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Pharcyde13
04-11-25, 09:36
Tried to find it based on the info here, but struck out (and didn't want to do any more drive throughs LOL). Closest I could tell was a small space that had what looked like a sign from a previous business that said " therapy" but didn't walk in. Bella was my all time favorite, would love to check out the new place, if anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it!

Kidcudi09
04-11-25, 10:18
Jade and Connie, the original owners of JC, go back to Yoshiko, which was on John are where the Walmart is now. Got many 4 hands from them. Definitely no trafficking when they ran the place.Connie gave one of the best deep tissue massages I ever had and JC was how I got introduced to AMPs living East.

HeeJunk
04-11-25, 13:38
Tried to find it based on the info here, but struck out (and didn't want to do any more drive throughs LOL). Closest I could tell was a small space that had what looked like a sign from a previous business that said " therapy" but didn't walk in. Bella was my all time favorite, would love to check out the new place, if anyone can point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it!Initial reports said van dyke at coolidge STREET in Centerline. Something about being next to a thrift or resale store.

SpideySense11
04-11-25, 13:51
Thanks for the share -- is it at the same location, basically? Or is there a new address?


I've been pretty sad since Gold Star and 8-Star were closed. As another poster has pointed out, The former 8-Star (at I-75 and 8 Mile) reopened this week as Cypress Spa.

I stopped in today to check it out. Nothing looks different inside. I was happy to be greeted by Tina. I remembered her from Gold Star (Magic) a while back. She provided excellent service back there.

She said that the second girl working was Lilly, who I suspect is another Gold Star girl. I am happy to see these two back in business at Cypress. I asked Tina if we would be having as much fun as we used to, and she said, "of course for you!" YMMV.

I'll be planning a visit soon. But it looks promising, despite the closure.

Fellow mongers, please report.

JAsian
04-11-25, 16:44
Thanks for the share -- is it at the same location, basically? Or is there a new address?I'm going to guess it's the same address based on these 2 key points in his report.

"The former 8-Star (at I-75 and 8 Mile) reopened this week as Cypress Spa.I stopped in today to check it out. Nothing looks different inside. ".

IAmNotMe
04-11-25, 20:32
Initial reports said van dyke at coolidge STREET in Centerline. Something about being next to a thrift or resale store.The only shop I found there had "Joy Therapy" on the door. I couldn't find anywhere to park and I couldn't find anything on Google for a phone number so I left the area to go somewhere else.

HeeJunk
04-11-25, 20:36
The only shop I found there had "Joy Therapy" on the door. I couldn't find anywhere to park and I couldn't find anything on Google for a phone number so I left the area to go somewhere else.Well since Joy was the brand image at Bella, that be it.

HeeJunk
04-11-25, 20:42
I'm going to guess it's the same address based on these 2 key points in his report.

"The former 8-Star (at I-75 and 8 Mile) reopened this week as Cypress Spa.I stopped in today to check it out. Nothing looks different inside. ".I love subtle sarcasm. So is this where I ask. Is it the same place or not?

KokomoJoe
04-11-25, 20:58
I love subtle sarcasm. So is this where I ask. Is it the same place or not?Same location. They are also running AMP ads on STG for this location, 160X E. 8 Mile Rd.

Smashing1979
04-12-25, 06:13
Same location. They are also running AMP ads on STG for this location, 160X E. 8 Mile Rd.Can someone explain to me why a place would re-open at the exact same location that got busted recently?

Wouldn't it be already on LEO's radar? Especially after advertising on STG?

Seems like only a matter of time until it happens again so it's like playing Russian roulette.

JAsian
04-12-25, 11:16
Can someone explain to me why a place would re-open at the exact same location that got busted recently?

Wouldn't it be already on LEO's radar? Especially after advertising on STG?

Seems like only a matter of time until it happens again so it's like playing Russian roulette.The lease term probably hasn't been fulfilled yet.

HowdyDo
04-12-25, 12:30
Still looking for a provider that isn't afraid to Polish off my balloon knot with their mouth in the metro Detroit area. Fingers are nice but I'm looking for a life changing experience.

HowdyDo
04-12-25, 12:55
Still looking for a provider that isn't afraid to Polish off my balloon knot with their mouth in the metro Detroit area. Fingers are nice but I'm looking for a life changing experience.

SalBass
04-12-25, 18:11
Still looking for a provider that isn't afraid to Polish off my balloon knot with their mouth in the metro Detroit area. Fingers are nice but I'm looking for a life changing experience.Doing it yourself.

MarkoFromTrpja
04-13-25, 08:02
I work near here and want to go during lunch one day. Can anyone explain what to expect in regard to service and pricing? Any TS? I don't want to get ripped off? Any particular ladies I should ask for? I like small busty Asians but good oral service or Greek is my fav. Dm ime please and thank you in advance.

CheckMan
04-13-25, 10:42
I work near here and want to go during lunch one day. Can anyone explain what to expect in regard to service and pricing? Any TS? I don't want to get ripped off? Any particular ladies I should ask for? I like small busty Asians but good oral service or Greek is my fav. Dm ime please and thank you in advance.Interested as well, please include me if you provide any info PM / DM.

CMorePussy
04-13-25, 11:41
https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/michigan/detroit/bodyrubs/body-rubs/massages-pleasure-relaxation-36792.htmlDon't go there!

HeeJunk
04-13-25, 12:23
I work near here and want to go during lunch one day. Can anyone explain what to expect in regard to service and pricing? Any TS? I don't want to get ripped off? Any particular ladies I should ask for? I like small busty Asians but good oral service or Greek is my fav. Dm ime please and thank you in advance.$200 all in. No TS. CFS, heavy oil, starfish, loose, and rushed. CBJ probably, greek unlikely. Girl probably changes often.

GruffSParty
04-13-25, 12:26
https://vivianrosefungiver.com

Or is this too good to be true.

I love redheads. She is a redhead with the complete package.

Mroader
04-13-25, 13:34
It's JOA Therapy, JOA means good in Korean!

Mroader
04-13-25, 13:43
Joy and Judy from Bella touch opened up in Centerline at the corner of Coolidge and Van Dyke right next to the thrift-resale shop. There's little to no parking in that area you'll have to figure it out. It says JOA therapy on the door. It means good in Korean. They also have a third girl who's new.

IAmNotMe
04-13-25, 14:09
Joy and Judy from Bella touch opened up in Centerline at the corner of Coolidge and Van Dyke right next to the thrift-resale shop. There's little to no parking in that area you'll have to figure it out. It says JOA therapy on the door. It means good in Korean. They also have a third girl who's new.Even though I read the name wrong on the back door from the alley, I still can't find the phone number on Google with the correct name. Where can I find the number to JOA Therapy?

Mroader
04-13-25, 15:39
Check your messages.


Even though I read the name wrong on the back door from the alley, I still can't find the phone number on Google with the correct name. Where can I find the number to JOA Therapy?

IAmNotMe
04-13-25, 16:25
Check your messages.Thank you.

JSmithPara
04-14-25, 14:07
Will be in the area for a week and am looking for a good massage parlor. Any suggestions would be appreciated. PM me or respond here. Thank you.

MageXO
04-14-25, 22:37
Some drunk bastard lit up Accura in GC and injured the ladies there because they turned him down.

https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/wayne-county/2025/04/11/man-accused-of-setting-fire-to-garden-city-massage-spa-with-two-inside/83052693007/

Simp5050
04-14-25, 22:41
https://vivianrosefungiver.com

Or is this too good to be true.

I love redheads. She is a redhead with the complete package.Looks TGTBT. 200 for a HH and 250 for a HR? Yeah, no. She's too hot for all that.

Try to contact her and I'll bet she asks for a deposit.

WinterKnight
04-15-25, 00:22
Some drunk bastard lit up Accura in GC and injured the ladies there because they turned him down.Looks like Ali will be going away on extended vacation for his foreseeable future. How did LE find him so quickly? Credit card record? Or security cam record of his face or license plate?

Sanctimonious6
04-15-25, 07:52
Looks TGTBT. 200 for a HH and 250 for a HR? Yeah, no. She's too hot for all that.

Try to contact her and I'll bet she asks for a deposit.There's one review on ThE otheR site, and it says exactly that, vanished with the deposit.

VipPro
04-15-25, 09:07
Anybody see this provider?

https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/michigan/detroit/bodyrubs/body-rubs/tina-thailand-4-11-97lbs-lmt-32253.html

OnTheRoad2019
04-15-25, 09:12
My#1 Drainer, Bonita has openings for you to check out her an massage skills before she starts vacation in a couple of weeks.

If you haven't seen how tight that Peloton has got her, now is your time to go play!

Simp5050
04-15-25, 10:34
DAE see Sarah while she was on her kick of selling Mary Kay skin care products as a front to her massage business?

She had me sign a bill of sale and gave me some face cleaner and moisturizer for free. I crack a grin every time I use the stuff.

HeeJunk
04-15-25, 15:16
Looks like Ali will be going away on extended vacation for his foreseeable future. How did LE find him so quickly? Credit card record? Or security cam record of his face or license plate?The flock system. Basic info like make, model, roofracks, etc can be picked up and reported back to police with location, time, and license plate. Game over.

MageXO
04-15-25, 17:02
The flock system. Basic info like make, model, roofracks, etc can be picked up and reported back to police with location, time, and license plate. Game over.I don't have any specific insight, but there could easily have been a camera pointing at the parking lot from any of the businesses in the strip, or across the street. Also, might have caller I'd from making an appointment, or maybe they even knew the guy.

How damn drunk do you have to be to go that damn far? It's insane.

HeeJunk
04-15-25, 19:06
I don't have any specific insight, but there could easily have been a camera pointing at the parking lot from any of the businesses in the strip, or across the street. Also, might have caller I'd from making an appointment, or maybe they even knew the guy.

How damn drunk do you have to be to go that damn far? It's insane.There was a video somewhere of the 20 minute arraignment. The flock system was able to match the vehicle.

HeeJunk
04-15-25, 19:10
There was a video somewhere of the 20 minute arraignment. The flock system was able to match the vehicle.https://www.fox2detroit.com/news/dearborn-man-charged-8-felonies-lighting-garden-city-massage-parlor-fire.amp

Eaton Beaver
04-15-25, 20:27
There was a video somewhere of the 20 minute arraignment. The flock system was able to match the vehicle.Between LEO and psychos like this, metro Detroit is not the place to visit an AMP these days.

HeeJunk
04-15-25, 20:35
Between LEO and psychos like this, metro Detroit is not the place to visit an AMP these days.When a psycho shoots up a walmart, do you stop going to all stores?

Eaton Beaver
04-15-25, 20:37
When a psycho shoots up a walmart, do you stop going to all stores?

Well. This parlor for sure as it appears there are no extras there. There's only one Walmart that I'll go into. I'm not shitting you.

HeeJunk
04-15-25, 21:32
Well. This parlor for sure as it appears there are no extras there. There's only one Walmart that I'll go into. I'm not shitting you.Actually everyone got std handies. Some reported FS on rare occasion. I suspect his drunkenness kept him from finishing and he got pissed. The unanswered question is why were they there at 11:30?

WinterKnight
04-16-25, 00:05
The flock system. Basic info like make, model, roofracks, etc can be picked up and reported back to police with location, time, and license plate. Game over.For those of you as mystified as I was at this response, here is a portion of the Wikipedia entry for this term:

"Flock Safety is a public safety technology company that provides a network of license plate reader (LPR) cameras, gunshot detection, and video surveillance systems to help law enforcement agencies and communities deter and solve crime. These systems use AI and data analytics to provide actionable evidence and insights to law enforcement, according to Flock Safety. ".

Fitzie00
04-16-25, 06:41
Actually everyone got std handies. Some reported FS on rare occasion. I suspect his drunkenness kept him from finishing and he got pissed. The unanswered question is why were they there at 11:30?The fire was reported at 11:30 PM. My guess is that our boy probably got there before they closed at 10, paid, some shit went down, he locked the girls up, and then he went and got whatever it takes to set an arson fire. Who the hell keeps materials to set an arson fire in their car?

Dude's going to do several years for this one. Arson with murderous intent can get you up to life.

ThirdTimer
04-16-25, 06:54
Sun Spa (grand river).

Springwell (ecorse).

M1 (telegraph).

Commerce. (14 mile).

Novi Natural Health (novi Rd).

Saigon (woodward).

Great Hands (9 mile).Anyone remember the thicker lady at Great Hands? She left around August last year and I haven't been back. Was wondering if she returned or went l went elsewhere. Our hh used to last a fh, hope that's not why LOL.

ShvdSchtick
04-16-25, 08:51
Anybody see this provider?

https://www.rubrankings.com/united-states/michigan/detroit/bodyrubs/body-rubs/tina-thailand-4-11-97lbs-lmt-32253.htmlYummy, let us know if this works out.

PantyLoverF
04-16-25, 10:38
Hi all,

I have been getting great massages from Maria. If you are looking for someone to try, she is safe and fun! Never a problem when I see her. Enjoy!

IG. Maria_massage2525.

ArchangelM
04-16-25, 10:50
Hi all,

I have been getting great massages from Maria. If you are looking for someone to try, she is safe and fun! Never a problem when I see her. Enjoy!.Seems PantyLoverF keeps posting a Commercial Message for Maria. I would steer clear of her incall unless you don't mind the stench of cat urine and are OK with breathing black mold growing in her basement and spreading throughout her house. It has standing water and sewage backed up due to a clogged drain. You choice.

SandersNut
04-16-25, 13:19
Hi all,

I have been getting great massages from Maria. If you are looking for someone to try, she is safe and fun! Never a problem when I see her. Enjoy!

IG. Maria_massage2525.What does she charge for a 60 minute deep tissue massage? Does she do a derp tissue massage?

RamButt
04-16-25, 13:20
Hi all,

I have been getting great massages from Maria. If you are looking for someone to try, she is safe and fun! Never a problem when I see her. Enjoy!




IG. Maria_massage2525.Nope. She is an appointment canceler with every known reason. When she doesn't cancel on you she just doesn't answer the phone. Another provider that doesn't value anyone else's time but her own. She's not even that hot anymore. NEXT.

Mroader
04-16-25, 15:35
I remember one thick little girl there that was named Lily. BB FS lots of fun.


Anyone remember the thicker lady at Great Hands? She left around August last year and I haven't been back. Was wondering if she returned or went l went elsewhere. Our hh used to last a fh, hope that's not why LOL.

Jd2011
04-16-25, 16:29
Personally I frequent any and all Walmarts. I've witnessed some awesome brawls. Very entertaining! Worldstarrrrr!


Well. This parlor for sure as it appears there are no extras there. There's only one Walmart that I'll go into. I'm not shitting you.

Pinhead Larry
04-16-25, 17:35
Hi all,

I have been getting great massages from Maria. If you are looking for someone to try, she is safe and fun! Never a problem when I see her. Enjoy!.Appreciate you sharing, regardless of other responses.

Illyrian
04-16-25, 18:06
Not for $200.


Hi all,

I have been getting great massages from Maria. If you are looking for someone to try, she is safe and fun! Never a problem when I see her. Enjoy!

IG. Maria_massage2525.

WhatsItMan
04-16-25, 18:37
Thanks for the share -- is it at the same location, basically? Or is there a new address?It's pretty much the same as it ever was.

HugeDk
04-16-25, 19:00
The fire was reported at 11:30 PM. My guess is that our boy probably got there before they closed at 10, paid, some shit went down, he locked the girls up, and then he went and got whatever it takes to set an arson fire. Who the hell keeps materials to set an arson fire in their car?

Dude's going to do several years for this one. Arson with murderous intent can get you up to life.Says he entered at 10:00. Got half way thru massage, wasn't getting what he wanted, locked one girl in room, found the other girl, locked them both in Laundry room, grabbed his $50, and set fire in several places. Says he left building at 10:38 and fire was starting then.

Lighter to some tissues, sheets, paper, whatever he could find I'm sure. Massage oil. Takes a while for fire to build without accelerant. So they were locked in there an hour. Suffered smoke and burns and were in critical care. That duche should get butt fucked in prison. Seriously, who the fuck does that?

RonyBoy
04-16-25, 20:17
Exted them to figure out what massage they provide. I got vague replies like "young 20 year old in modeling" " sensual massage" " you will end happily " etc.

When I reached there it was a let down. The aunty was 20 year old, maybe 20 years ago. Did not touch junior. Sheet always stayed on and no hint of extras. The massage was good though. Wasted 100 bucks there and would not repeat. YMMV.

Hills123
04-16-25, 22:41
Just curious if someone knows what Natasha allows.

Any kissing, mutual touching, etcetera. (menu).

And how much she charges for 1 hour 😊.

She looks & sounds like she is a good provider, and a good time!

https://www.adultlook.com/p/3011842


I haven't seen Lisa or Bonita.

For my money Natasha is the gold standard for sensual massage in the area. Fantastic attitude, good to talk to (not a empty headed bimbo or drugged up *****), nice body, and she hasn't raised her prices in the last two years I've been seeing her.

Just wish her menu would open up. Body slide, DFK, HJ or Russian. She's let me touch her clit with her panties on. I've never gotten beyond that, not sure if others have.

MageXO
04-16-25, 23:41
Actually everyone got std handies. Some reported FS on rare occasion. I suspect his drunkenness kept him from finishing and he got pissed. The unanswered question is why were they there at 11:30?A passerby called in the fire at 11:30, we don't really know when guy locked the ladies in the laundry room and lit the place up. If he didn't happen to have any good accelerants handy, it probably took a while to spread to the point where it was visible outside.

I hope he gets what he deserves. Burn or smoke injuries are no joke, and they probably thought they were going to die in there.

Gyxser70
04-17-25, 05:58
Just curious if someone knows what Natasha allows.

Any kissing, mutual touching, etcetera. (menu).

And how much she charges for 1 hour 😊.

She looks & sounds like she is a good provider, and a good time!

https://www.adultlook.com/p/3011842I never thought I would be one of those pricks who would say RTFF.

But really- RTFF, especially being a senior member yourself with almost 90 posts you should know how this works by now.

There's enough info out there about her that rivals the guy on the Cross.

QuartzB
04-17-25, 06:14
Yummy, let us know if this works out.She has decent reviews from different cities over the years. Just search on "Tina Thailand" and leave the location blank. She also advertises on Tryst. She doesn't do FS so if you're looking for that you're out of luck.

https://tryst.link/massage/tinathailand

Tigers1987
04-17-25, 08:47
Just curious if someone knows what Natasha allows.

Any kissing, mutual touching, etcetera. (menu).

And how much she charges for 1 hour 😊.

She looks & sounds like she is a good provider, and a good time!

https://www.adultlook.com/p/3011842100 for hh and 200 for 1 hrs, her menu include nuru message, handjob, mutual touch, Dfk and Russian, but in general it's hard to get hold of her if you are not a regular.

BDR2093
04-17-25, 08:58
Which place has better talent, saigon or great hands?

Mrtroy
04-17-25, 11:14
Is Tina Thailand real? Has anyone met / visit her for real? Googled the name and a dude singer actor in Bangkok came up only on my phone.


She has decent reviews from different cities over the years. Just search on "Tina Thailand" and leave the location blank. She also advertises on Tryst. She doesn't do FS so if you're looking for that you're out of luck.

https://tryst.link/massage/tinathailand

SandersNut
04-17-25, 13:51
Seems PantyLoverF keeps posting a Commercial Message for Maria. I would steer clear of her incall unless you don't mind the stench of cat urine and are OK with breathing black mold growing in her basement and spreading throughout her house. It has standing water and sewage backed up due to a clogged drain. You choice.Mold and cat piss is where I draw the line. Thanks for the report. I'll fuck ugly, fat, but stanky and unclean. No thank you. And def not just a body rub.

Have fun and be safe.

WednesdayFun
04-17-25, 17:16
100 for hh and 200 for 1 hrs, her menu include nuru message, handjob, mutual touch, Dfk and Russian, but in general it's hard to get hold of her if you are not a regular.That's an understatement. I got bumped from an appointment because a regular wanted to see her. I've never bothered trying to book her again.

NatsuD
04-17-25, 18:39
Anybody know where Annie from Grove went? Last I saw her she said she was going to Livonia.

Gyxser70
04-18-25, 06:22
That's an understatement. I got bumped from an appointment because a regular wanted to see her. I've never bothered trying to book her again.I'm very surprised she did that to you. Anytime I had seen her, I didn't have to go round and around to get squeezed in the schedule nor ever worried about getting bumped like that.

SmegBoy
04-18-25, 09:19
I'm very surprised she did that to you. Anytime I had seen her, I didn't have to go round and around to get squeezed in the schedule nor ever worried about getting bumped like that.Maybe because you're the one bumping not so regulars off the schedule?

SandersNut
04-18-25, 10:58
Is Tina Thailand real? Has anyone met / visit her for real? Googled the name and a dude singer actor in Bangkok came up only on my phone.She texted me and said she is in bangkck and would be back in the states next week for massage and wanted to know where I'm located. I'll review if anything comes of it.

FairestMueller
04-18-25, 13:29
Cruised by we spa and decided to give it a shot. West side of Livonia.

Older lady took gave me a 30 min massage for 50 house fee. No negotiation on flip gave her 60 because she was having a really good time with it. Great front hand massage. Not mechanical. Not a spinner.

InTheLoop68
04-18-25, 13:35
Can you post a link or other details to get in contact w her? DM is fine.

TIA.


DAE see Sarah while she was on her kick of selling Mary Kay skin care products as a front to her massage business?

She had me sign a bill of sale and gave me some face cleaner and moisturizer for free. I crack a grin every time I use the stuff.

PickleJar
04-18-25, 13:40
Can you post a link or other details to get in contact w her? DM is fine.

TIA.She's been locked up for awhile. I'm pretty sure she still has a long way to go too.

HeeJunk
04-18-25, 20:27
Anybody know where Annie from Grove went? Last I saw her she said she was going to Livonia.Well. If FS was the core competency on her resume, the only place in Livonia would have been 7 mile spa, and they are out of business for the third time.

Gyxser70
04-18-25, 22:26
Maybe because you're the one bumping not so regulars off the schedule?I've never been in that good with a provider.

Frozenzombies
04-19-25, 18:21
Went to starmoon for the first time in a couple years last night. Walked in pretty late, waited about 5 minutes and was brought back. Her name was Uki. She even spelt it for me and said to remember her for next time. She was pretty young, maybe late 20's, or 30 ish. The massage was pretty bad. Usually at most of these places I return to actually give pretty good massages. She was thick but not really fat. Had some nice big boobs and allowed a little UTC roaming. Put in some pretty good effort on the standard finish. Sat next to me on the table and would really lean into it. Going slow like I asked, and she even started blowing air on it. Did a half hour. 6 to the house and left. 5 tip. Would maybe repeat, but I like a good massage as well.

Forty Four
04-19-25, 22:17
Well. If FS was the core competency on her resume, the only place in Livonia would have been 7 mile spa, and they are out of business for the third time.7-Mile / Middlebelt is still advertising. What happened to them?

Last Listcrawler 30 minutes ago https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/185918025.

Last STG ad April 15th https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/--248-820-6089-new-girls-best-/071005138423.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

6-Mile / Farmington Rd (between Shell gas station and Dentist) started advertising again on April 13th. It's impossible to keep these closings / reopenings straight.

Last STG ad 7 hours ago https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/947-259-1658new-asian-girls-he/132253619728.

Disclosure: I have not been to either since their reincarnation. Anyone want to TOFTT?

The Real Mrdj
04-20-25, 09:24
She has decent reviews from different cities over the years. Just search on "Tina Thailand" and leave the location blank. She also advertises on Tryst. She doesn't do FS so if you're looking for that you're out of luck.

https://tryst.link/massage/tinathailandShe also has leaked nude pics as well. Here is one link: https://www.reddit.com/user/TinaThaiThai/

HeeJunk
04-20-25, 11:10
7-Mile / Middlebelt is still advertising. What happened to them?

Last Listcrawler 30 minutes ago https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/185918025.

Last STG ad April 15th https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/--248-820-6089-new-girls-best-/071005138423.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

6-Mile / Farmington Rd (between Shell gas station and Dentist) started advertising again on April 13th. It's impossible to keep these closings / reopenings straight.

Last STG ad 7 hours ago https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/947-259-1658new-asian-girls-he/132253619728.

Disclosure: I have not been to either since their reincarnation. Anyone want to TOFTT?I don't think either are open. Maybe websites just recycle old ads to give the impression they have more active advertisers than they do.

Timberwolf
04-20-25, 12:38
I don't think either are open. Maybe websites just recycle old ads to give the impression they have more active advertisers than they do.STG ads can be set to repost automatically. I imagine Listcrawler has the same feature.

Sixsixths
04-20-25, 13:37
I don't think either are open. Maybe websites just recycle old ads to give the impression they have more active advertisers than they do.The latter has an open sign and the stickers from the city are absent. Car parked in the lot sometime last week when I last drove by. I'd say their open. Unsure on Seven Mile.

Wiggles0923
04-20-25, 16:52
Not for $200.Any extras?

Driftwood25
04-20-25, 17:17
7-Mile / Middlebelt is still advertising. What happened to them?

Last Listcrawler 30 minutes ago https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/michigan/detroit/185918025.

Last STG ad April 15th https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/--248-820-6089-new-girls-best-/071005138423.

. . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . .

6-Mile / Farmington Rd (between Shell gas station and Dentist) started advertising again on April 13th. It's impossible to keep these closings / reopenings straight.

Last STG ad 7 hours ago https://skipthegames.com/posts/detroit/female-escorts/asian/947-259-1658new-asian-girls-he/132253619728.

Disclosure: I have not been to either since their reincarnation. Anyone want to TOFTT?I texted the number from STG ad. They sent me a business card with the same number and hours of 9:30-9 7 days a week. Said there was only one lady today, but she is leaving early so come another day. I will and report back.

HeeJunk
04-20-25, 18:38
Went to starmoon for the first time in a couple years last night. Walked in pretty late, waited about 5 minutes and was brought back. Her name was Uki. She even spelt it for me and said to remember her for next time. She was pretty young, maybe late 20's, or 30 ish. The massage was pretty bad. Usually at most of these places I return to actually give pretty good massages. She was thick but not really fat. Had some nice big boobs and allowed a little UTC roaming. Put in some pretty good effort on the standard finish. Sat next to me on the table and would really lean into it. Going slow like I asked, and she even started blowing air on it. Did a half hour. 6 to the house and left. 5 tip. Would maybe repeat, but I like a good massage as well.If you want an actual massage first, you usually need an hour. A half hour implies you want in and out.

MageXO
04-20-25, 19:24
Anybody know where Annie from Grove went? Last I saw her she said she was going to Livonia.I couldn't speak to any truth as to where she went, but I did drive by 6 Mile and Farmington and it looked like the place on the corner there was open again, which is where I first saw her, before it got shutdown. At least, the lights were on, I didn't stop in to see.

Worth a warning that police love to hang out in the parking lot across the street near the secretary of state.

MageXO
04-20-25, 19:26
Well. If FS was the core competency on her resume, the only place in Livonia would have been 7 mile spa, and they are out of business for the third time.By my opinion, "competency" isn't an accurate description, but there were briefly some spots at 6 and Farmington that she was at. I drove by it the other day and it looked like it was open again.

HungMi8
04-21-25, 07:02
Nope. She is an appointment canceler with every known reason. When she doesn't cancel on you she just doesn't answer the phone. Another provider that doesn't value anyone else's time but her own. She's not even that hot anymore. NEXT.I've met Maria a couple of times and have had great experiences with zero cancellations. We all have different experiences, that was mine. Her location isn't convenient for me so I would love to hear recommendations of similar providers. I love short girls with dark hair and big boobs. Can anyone help?

Zippy23
04-21-25, 08:54
Is it just me or is the Message game dead. All of my go to spots have been shut down. I am sure there are a few gems out there but I have not found any. I will report back if I find one.

Illyrian
04-21-25, 10:26
I texted Maria and asked if she's seeing new clients and she said I'm sorry you have the wrong number. Her last 3 digits are 482.


I've met Maria a couple of times and have had great experiences with zero cancellations. We all have different experiences, that was mine. Her location isn't convenient for me so I would love to hear recommendations of similar providers. I love short girls with dark hair and big boobs. Can anyone help?

No Choice
04-21-25, 11:56
I texted Maria and asked if she's seeing new clients and she said I'm sorry you have the wrong number. Her last 3 digits are 482.Wrong number. Ends in 2627. Look it up on her IG page.

Simp5050
04-21-25, 12:14
I've met Maria a couple of times and have had great experiences with zero cancellations. We all have different experiences, that was mine. Her location isn't convenient for me so I would love to hear recommendations of similar providers. I love short girls with dark hair and big boobs. Can anyone help?I've seen her a few times with zero cancellations too. Same as Hung, her location isn't great for me either.

Its definitely not the cleanest spot that I've been to. The massage table made me wonder if the sheets were changes, and there little face thing was bare w / out any plastic or paper towel, so I hoped it was clean. Definite cat urine smell, I think the black mold thing is wild b / c how the fuck someone rolling around in her basement?

She gives a good service. Menu is very flexible although no FS. Hell, if you come freshly washed, visit her bathrooom, use the wet wipes and tell her about it, you might even get a rim job.

If she had a better location, cleaner, I'd go back.

SmegBoy
04-21-25, 23:52
Joy and Judy from Bella touch opened up in Centerline at the corner of Coolidge and Van Dyke right next to the thrift-resale shop. There's little to no parking in that area you'll have to figure it out. It says JOA therapy on the door. It means good in Korean. They also have a third girl who's new.Went for a half hour when I had some time to kill on the east side. Got about 10 minutes of 4 hands as one of the older ladies gossiped with the younger one providing the main show. Younger one was very cute, aa cup and thin, decent massage. Excellent tickle game. I swear she put six heavy hot towels on me before starting the back walking. On the flip, standard he with upper utc. Rates 60/80, but they'll take 70 for an hour.

Dixon Uranus
04-22-25, 09:28
Since the Garden City area has been a little "hot" lately, I'm hoping some fellow mongers can provide some insight on the Westland area. Last time I was in town, I stopped into M-Spa. Met with Selena, who was nice enough welcoming when I entered the place (looked like they were still setting up, as there was flooring and various building material scattered throughout). But despite the warm welcome, the massage was incredibly lackluster and there was a kid in the next door care center that was having a total mental breakdown, I just could not get into it.

If there's any local joints you gentlemen would recommend I'd greatly appreciate it.

HeeJunk
04-22-25, 12:48
Since the Garden City area has been a little "hot" lately, I'm hoping some fellow mongers can provide some insight on the Westland area. Last time I was in town, I stopped into M-Spa. Met with Selena, who was nice enough welcoming when I entered the place (looked like they were still setting up, as there was flooring and various building material scattered throughout). But despite the warm welcome, the massage was incredibly lackluster and there was a kid in the next door care center that was having a total mental breakdown, I just could not get into it.

If there's any local joints you gentlemen would recommend I'd greatly appreciate it.If you just expect standard handy, there is bloom lin (jin). A hundred yards from M spa.

UltraFind77
04-23-25, 13:41
Is this place still open and offering massages?

PayStub
04-23-25, 16:01
Is this place still open and offering massages?I think the nail salon is still open but Jenny is gone for a while now. Someone just asked same thing a few weeks back. Hopefully she shows up somewhere. Good luck.

WhatsItMan
04-23-25, 16:03
Went for a half hour when I had some time to kill on the east side. Got about 10 minutes of 4 hands as one of the older ladies gossiped with the younger one providing the main show. Younger one was very cute, aa cup and thin, decent massage. Excellent tickle game. I swear she put six heavy hot towels on me before starting the back walking. On the flip, standard he with upper utc. Rates 60/80, but they'll take 70 for an hour.Other woman may be Mimi, who was at Sonya. Texted me with her new location on Van Dyke in Centerline. Best massage I've had in awhile. Older woman who did wonderful back walking with standard end. I'm a little sorry she moved so far away from me.

MageXO
04-23-25, 21:16
Since the Garden City area has been a little "hot" lately, I'm hoping some fellow mongers can provide some insight on the Westland area. Last time I was in town, I stopped into M-Spa. Met with Selena, who was nice enough welcoming when I entered the place (looked like they were still setting up, as there was flooring and various building material scattered throughout). But despite the warm welcome, the massage was incredibly lackluster and there was a kid in the next door care center that was having a total mental breakdown, I just could not get into it.

If there's any local joints you gentlemen would recommend I'd greatly appreciate it.M is the only place you'll get FS at as far as I'm aware, and it's been there almost a year now and looks exactly the same now as it did then. They're about as bad as it gets at it, too. No signage, looks like it's under construction.

Garden City Massage and Far East (I think it's called that now it changes names a lot) and Healing Massage Experience on Ford are usually alright.

RamButt
04-24-25, 06:40
Is this place still open and offering massages?New owners at PT Nails put an end to Jen and her massages there. Rumor has it that there is a woman named Jen doing massages at Saigon Spa in Ferndale. Not sure if it's the same Jen.

BattMann
04-24-25, 08:24
New owners at PT Nails put an end to Jen and her massages there. Rumor has it that there is a woman named Jen doing massages at Saigon Spa in Ferndale. Not sure if it's the same Jen.Jen was at Saigon for a decent amount of time prior to going to PT IIRC.

SamPerkins420
04-24-25, 09:52
Forgot to post earlier so this may be known, I tried going there 3 weeks ago and it was shut down. Bright orange notice saying "vacated" glued to the front door, couple of other signs taped to it. I saw the vacated sign from my car when I pulled into their lot so just kept right on driving. Ended up at M1 where the service is always good but the provider old (prolly 50+) and fee now $220.

UltraFind77
04-24-25, 12:21
I think the nail salon is still open but Jenny is gone for a while now. Someone just asked same thing a few weeks back. Hopefully she shows up somewhere. Good luck.TY for the reply.

UltraFind77
04-24-25, 16:44
https://skipthegames.com/posts/pontiac-mi/female-escorts/asian/--new-girls-947-271-7761grand-/210257277119

https://harlothub.com/united-states/michigan/detroit/female-escorts/947-271-7761-9158954834.html

BAD massage. 60/ half Offered standard I asked for upgrade offered $ then $. 2 wanted $. 5 I said standard good then. Usually they say ok $. 20 but no. UCR cute but then demanded 60 afrer. WTF.

OnDraught
04-25-25, 00:37
https://skipthegames.com/posts/pontiac-mi/female-escorts/asian/--new-girls-947-271-7761grand-/210257277119

https://harlothub.com/united-states/michigan/detroit/female-escorts/947-271-7761-9158954834.html

BAD massage. 60/ half Offered standard I asked for upgrade offered $ then $. 2 wanted $. 5 I said standard good then. Usually they say ok $. 20 but no. UCR cute but then demanded 60 afrer. WTF.What did you just say?

AvBrent
04-25-25, 10:44
What did you just say?Agreed 100%. Can we just stop with the cryptic messages already? It's not cute or cool, it's just confusing for everyone.

Here's my best translation:

Bad massage. $60 for half hour. I asked for an "upgrade" and offered 100, then 120, she wanted 150 so I said standard good. Usually they say OK to 120, but no. UCR cute but then demanded a 60 tip after, WTF?

TopGun2002
04-26-25, 13:02
Anyone able to text her successfully from a burner phone (not Voice Over Internet P)?


"Don't text me from a texting app. Real numbers only. I
check cell carrier info for every message I receive and I block 100% of text
app/google
voice/voip phone numbers."

Supposedly she has a great BJ with prostrate.

ShvdSchtick
04-26-25, 13:51
I saw her before she went private and had a great experience, not so much once she went on her own, I would love to reconnect if you find out how to make contact.

Time changes everything.


Anyone able to text her successfully from a burner phone (not Voice Over Internet P)?


"Don't text me from a texting app. Real numbers only. I
check cell carrier info for every message I receive and I block 100% of text
app/google
voice/voip phone numbers."

Supposedly she has a great BJ with prostrate.

McGuy
04-26-25, 18:56
Anyone know of any Asian providers who speak Greek?

HugeDk
04-26-25, 21:45
I saw her before she went private and had a great experience, not so much once she went on her own, I would love to reconnect if you find out how to make contact.

Time changes everything.Agree with ShvdSchtick and reported on her before. She was good when she worked at Siam Touch now called Siam Bodywork's. The ad is made by her bf / handler who is the one who you are communicating with when you schedule. Yes he will monitor this board and also has cameras on their apartment / condo they rent to conduct their business. But because of him she doesn't do FS as some had with her when she was with Siam. Most she does now BJ which I believe is Al least 200 all in, maybe more. I have not seen her with this setup, just texted back and forth with the bf and he divulged this info to me.

Bvretr69
04-27-25, 09:31
Had an hour to kill the other day and decided to stop in and get relaxed, I'm surely glad I did. I'm pretty sure I received the royal treatment, a very nice 4 hand massage that must have lasted over 30 minutes, hot stones and towels and then some back walking. Honestly one of the best treatments I've had in awhile I left very happy I will be returning SOON. I haven't felt this good in a long time. Most places rush you in and out I got the full hour I paid for. If you like a great massage after a long week I recommend trying this place. ENJOY!!

Moe2056
04-27-25, 16:41
Had an hour to kill the other day and decided to stop in and get relaxed, I'm surely glad I did. I'm pretty sure I received the royal treatment, a very nice 4 hand massage that must have lasted over 30 minutes, hot stones and towels and then some back walking. Honestly one of the best treatments I've had in awhile I left very happy I will be returning SOON. I haven't felt this good in a long time. Most places rush you in and out I got the full hour I paid for. If you like a great massage after a long week I recommend trying this place. ENJOY!!Same for me the other day. Wonderful massage and better than average finish. Provider said they have been slow so far overall since opening in the new location (former Bella Touch team).

RamButt
04-27-25, 17:12
Had an hour to kill the other day and decided to stop in and get relaxed, I'm surely glad I did. I'm pretty sure I received the royal treatment, a very nice 4 hand massage that must have lasted over 30 minutes, hot stones and towels and then some back walking. Honestly one of the best treatments I've had in awhile I left very happy I will be returning SOON. I haven't felt this good in a long time. Most places rush you in and out I got the full hour I paid for. If you like a great massage after a long week I recommend trying this place. ENJOY!!Everyone that gets a massage there gets the same 4 hand treatment unless they are slammed.

BrandoM
04-28-25, 11:40
Everyone that gets a massage there gets the same 4 hand treatment unless they are slammed.I went this morning and sadly, I did not. I always seem to miss out on this kind of stuff. Pretty good actual massage though.

UltraFind77
04-28-25, 12:36
Had an hour to kill the other day and decided to stop in and get relaxed, I'm surely glad I did. I'm pretty sure I received the royal treatment, a very nice 4 hand massage that must have lasted over 30 minutes, hot stones and towels and then some back walking. Honestly one of the best treatments I've had in awhile I left very happy I will be returning SOON. I haven't felt this good in a long time. Most places rush you in and out I got the full hour I paid for. If you like a great massage after a long week I recommend trying this place. ENJOY!!New Empire or Asian Spa in Centerline?

UltraFind77
04-28-25, 12:38
Agreed 100%. Can we just stop with the cryptic messages already? It's not cute or cool, it's just confusing for everyone.

Here's my best translation:

Bad massage. $60 for half hour. I asked for an "upgrade" and offered 100, then 120, she wanted 150 so I said standard good. Usually they say OK to 120, but no. UCR cute but then demanded a 60 tip after, WTF?You are correct. And noted!

Moe2056
04-28-25, 14:13
New Empire or Asian Spa in Centerline?Check post 34522 for name and location. And a few other updates in and around that post. Enjoy.

Final Fantasy
04-28-25, 15:23
Are there any providers at Saigon that provide a real massage? I feel like the quality of massage given is often so inconsequential to mongers that they don't speak about it, but a truly bad massage, regardless of how hot the provider is, is a dealbreaker for me. Hot with an OK massage is something I can work with. If they look like an actual dog and give a stellar massage, that's usually a bummer as well. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.

T Long
04-28-25, 15:24
Agree with ShvdSchtick and reported on her before. She was good when she worked at Siam Touch now called Siam Bodywork's. The ad is made by her bf / handler who is the one who you are communicating with when you schedule. Yes he will monitor this board and also has cameras on their apartment / condo they rent to conduct their business. But because of him she doesn't do FS as some had with her when she was with Siam. Most she does now BJ which I believe is Al least 200 all in, maybe more. I have not seen her with this setup, just texted back and forth with the bf and he divulged this info to me.I was apparently blocked by her boyfriend over a year ago. Apparently he didn't like the text. I sure would like a second chance. She provided good service and I liked the location. Anyone know if she has an alternative number.

Final Fantasy
04-28-25, 15:29
I can verify this. Had an appointment set with her today, which she canceled a few hours before. She has some story about having an internship at a hospital, which I do not believe. It's just a story she set up to provide her the ability to bail on people I think.


1-800-icancel strikes again! Not sure if I'm more disappointed in her or myself.

FrankyV8
04-28-25, 15:29
Are there any providers at Saigon that provide a real massage? I feel like the quality of massage given is often so inconsequential to mongers that they don't speak about it, but a truly bad massage, regardless of how hot the provider is, is a dealbreaker for me. Hot with an OK massage is something I can work with. If they look like an actual dog and give a stellar massage, that's usually a bummer as well. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.Have never gotten a really good massage. Not that kind of place.

FrankyV8
04-28-25, 15:31
Anyone tried any of their locations? They have a location in Troy and Berkeley (in the old Ocean Wave Spa) and advertise on various sites including Harlot hub. Wondering how the talent and the massages are. TIA.

GuyFromToledo3
04-28-25, 20:44
Ummm, Russian is clearly on the menu with Natasha and it's fantastic. Otherwise agree she's clearly the gold standard around here.Able to send her link or contact info? Pm or on here whatever you feel comfortable with. Stay safe.

GuyFromToledo3
04-28-25, 20:49
Can someone pm me Lisa's contact info please? Thank you.If anyone ever passed to you I'd appreciate the favor in a pm. Stay safe.

Lemay591
04-28-25, 20:50
I have not been to Empire spa in over a year, recently a fellow monger said they are open so I stopped by. Was happy to see they are still open, did not ask about table shower, but paid 60 for a half way decent massage and 140 for FS. Lucy was her name (kinda hard to tell with accent) probably 40-50,5 3 and good body not skinny or fat, just average. Good times.

Fast69
04-29-25, 13:01
Are there any providers at Saigon that provide a real massage? I feel like the quality of massage given is often so inconsequential to mongers that they don't speak about it, but a truly bad massage, regardless of how hot the provider is, is a dealbreaker for me. Hot with an OK massage is something I can work with. If they look like an actual dog and give a stellar massage, that's usually a bummer as well. Thanks in advance to anyone who can help.Tiffany gives a really good massage, probably the best there. Ebony is a close second followed by Cindy. Just my opinion.

Smashing1979
04-29-25, 15:45
Tiffany gives a really good massage, probably the best there. Ebony is a close second followed by Cindy. Just my opinion.Definitely not. The massage is non existent. And hot stones don't count. It's more like light rubbing. The massage is not why you go to Saigon.

DredWings
04-29-25, 15:56
Any intel on Rui Hong Bodywork's in Sterling Heights (19 Mile)? Saw ad on rubmaps. Looks like it will be an in-home location.

RamButt
04-29-25, 17:22
Any intel on Rui Hong Bodywork's in Sterling Heights (19 Mile)? Saw ad on rubmaps. Looks like it will be an in-home location.In home massage by stocky mid 50's asian, hardly speaks any English but knows how to say "NO TOUCHY ME" LOL. Yeah, ZERO roaming, hands to your side or she will throw you out the front door, literally. LOL.

MotorCity7
04-30-25, 16:16
Any intel on Rui Hong Bodywork's in Sterling Heights (19 Mile)? Saw ad on rubmaps. Looks like it will be an in-home location.Good (hard) massage. Nothing else available unless you have been grandfathered in.

BigVal
04-30-25, 16:30
As others have said, this place is at Van Dyke and Coolidge, it really is not that hard to find if you have more than 1 brain cell. I've been twice now.

First time, I got the older lady and the massage was decent but nothing spectacular. Definitely better than a traditional FS spot. On the flip she initially tried to play it off and not give me a HE. I had to basically ask "No extra's here? She gave me the run-around about how her boss would fire her if she knew. Yeah yeah, whatever, eventually she obliged, overall pretty good HE, nothing special. Said something like "no talking about us, we only offer massage here" on my way out the door.

2nd time I got the younger one. Overall much better experience. Massage was a lot better and rivaled some of the legit massages I've gotten. She cracked my back with her feet during the back walk which was nice. Then the older one came in and I got some 4-hands action which was amazing. Never tried that before but made me feel like a king. On the flip there was a lot of teasing first which was great, probably one of the best HE's I've gotten. Highly recommend this place. 80 to the house and 40 tip, so standard rates too.

JustAGuy33
04-30-25, 19:38
I drove by six and Farmington. And saw the open sign on at the spa. I don't know anything. I did see the door have a new certain over the door.

HeeJunk
04-30-25, 21:21
I drove by six and Farmington. And saw the open sign on at the spa. I don't know anything. I did see the door have a new certain over the door.Are you certain.

WinterKnight
05-01-25, 00:31
Are you certain.It's curtains for you, HeeJunk, you and your punny jokes.

MikeQanaby
05-01-25, 09:50
Are you certain.He better be curtain, or it's certains for him.

JustAGuy33
05-01-25, 10:09
Are you certain.LOL yeah I was in the middle of something and didn't spell check. But yes I'm certain they put up a new curtain.

Rg0794
05-01-25, 16:23
As others have said, this place is at Van Dyke and Coolidge, it really is not that hard to find if you have more than 1 brain cell. I've been twice now.

First time, I got the older lady and the massage was decent but nothing spectacular. Definitely better than a traditional FS spot. On the flip she initially tried to play it off and not give me a HE. I had to basically ask "No extra's here? She gave me the run-around about how her boss would fire her if she knew. Yeah yeah, whatever, eventually she obliged, overall pretty good HE, nothing special. Said something like "no talking about us, we only offer massage here" on my way out the door.

2nd time I got the younger one. Overall much better experience. Massage was a lot better and rivaled some of the legit massages I've gotten. She cracked my back with her feet during the back walk which was nice. Then the older one came in and I got some 4-hands action which was amazing. Never tried that before but made me feel like a king. On the flip there was a lot of teasing first which was great, probably one of the best HE's I've gotten. Highly recommend this place. 80 to the house and 40 tip, so standard rates too.Yeah. They just got busted and year ago man. Keep it low-key so they can stick around. We don't need the same post over and over about where they're located. We all know. And the folks who live on that side street are sure as hell going to know soon too. They're already getting too busy for where they're located. Just keep it low-key and enjoy it while it lasts.

HeeJunk
05-01-25, 19:44
Yeah. They just got busted and year ago man. Keep it low-key so they can stick around. We don't need the same post over and over about where they're located. We all know. And the folks who live on that side street are sure as hell going to know soon too. They're already getting too busy for where they're located. Just keep it low-key and enjoy it while it lasts.As long as they get the customer to make the first physical move, they will be good. They can't get sloppy, and make an offer to a cop, or someone seeking a legit massage. This is why the original bella got shut down.