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Big Puff Daddy
01-11-12, 21:12
What specific Club or Clubs are you referring too. I have had this type of experience at a couple of different Gentlemen's Clubs here in Detroit. I have a suspicion but would like it confirmed. Thanking you in advance. Vic.I am not going to give away the name of the club or girl in my recent story. The clubs with decent looking chicks where extras are common have been discussed here too many times to count. You only have to read posts for the past few pages to see the top ones. FC, PH, BT, Coli, etc. I'm sure extras are available in about every club in the metro area, some more rampant than others. But then again in some you probably won't find girls you'd being willing to pay anything for. You might want to pay them to put their cloths back on. As far as prices, they vary considerably by club, girl, how the girl is doing money-wise that day, how desperate she is for cash. Just don't take the first offer. Most come down in price pretty quick. I'm sure some girls may offer FS for $ or $.5 for one guy, but maybe there is a guy they find revolting that they would need $$$ or $$$$ to be worth lowering their dignity and standards to fuck.

Big Puff Daddy
01-11-12, 21:18
Tried out BTs for the first time a couple weeks before Christmas. Weekday around noon. I had been wasting my time at HVIIIs South for years never making the trip to BTs. Sat down and had a couple of beers and watched the dances and turned a few girls down. Before I knew it this college age dream maker named Paris sits down and starts rubbing me. Blonde girl, early 20s, small natural see's and a beautiful ass. She says 1 for BJ, I ask how much for FS, she says 1. 2 so off we go for the "working man's special". Add. 02 for the VIP tax, and still an affordable night out that I will repeat when I can.

DTDI had an afternoon in Paris a year ago. BBBJ. The next day I came down with NSU. I was with another girl the day before so I didn't know who I got it from. Three months later I got another BBBJ from Paris and came down with a nasty case of NSU again. Even worse. Never again. Mr Happy burned for about a month. My flights to Paris have been grounded ever since. Gave a great performance, but not worth it ever again without a cover. Maybe its because she DT me and there is nasty stuff in the back of her throat, whereas I don't have an issue when girls don't DT me. Not sure.

Duckydo
01-11-12, 22:47
I had an afternoon in Paris a year ago. BBBJ. The next day I came down with NSU. I was with another girl the day before so I didn't know who I got it from. Three months later I got another BBBJ from Paris and came down with a nasty case of NSU again. Even worse. Never again. Mr Happy burned for about a month. My flights to Paris have been grounded ever since. Gave a great performance, but not worth it ever again without a cover. Maybe its because she DT me and there is nasty stuff in the back of her throat, whereas I don't have an issue when girls don't DT me. Not sure.For those who may wondered but were afraid to ask, NSU = non-specfic urethritis. Basically and STD caused by chlamydia or candida. I'm told it feels like you're pissing razor blades. Fortunately, I've not had personal experience.

NonParticipant
01-12-12, 03:56
I just want to say that although I appear to be a new member my previous handle was compromised and I am really at senior status. I have been though almost a half year of straight chastation and it has not been pleasant. Nevertheless, I consider myself no better or worse than any other person on this planet.

Also, just a word of warning. I have let many things slide in the past. This will not be the case any longer. This will not be the case any longer.

Ripoff Report As a previous senior member I normally would have had enough sense to stay away from this spot however I was given a free admin ticket and being that it has been quite a few months I was very vunerable. The dance has used the highly sensitive gel that makes you come in just a couple of minutes. I didn't have time to realize it then to say anything then but I will be complaining to the club even if is futel. Also, was charged twice for the wristband. The dancer thought she was being cute and although age is catching up will me it may take a while to catch but I will catch it.

Jackbb
01-12-12, 10:06
Stopped by Hot Spot in Yspi on 12/23/11, about 4 pm. You have to be kidding! 5. 00 cover. 6.50 per beer, with a four-drink mimimum. For that dump? Laughed in their faces, and walked!

Sir Spunky
01-12-12, 12:51
Looking for any guidance or reports on BT's night shift girls. Lea, kalina, Lilly. Any info appreciated.

Nighthawk1955
01-12-12, 14:57
Same here. I can't believe the money I used to spend up until a few years ago just getting regular lap dances. I pay less now and get FS or a BJ.Tell me about it. I used to have a huge supply of entertaiment $$$ that wasn't even mine and was use it or loose it. Oh how I wasted it on lap dances!

Dxf289
01-12-12, 16:16
Studio 54 over in Windsor? Didn't they invent the sheet dance? My first BJ at a club back in the late 80s when I was still in the service. Hell, it was a contact there that me a job bouncing when I got out. Is that spot still open? I recall public breast feedings too, lmao!

Big Puff Daddy
01-12-12, 16:43
Tell me about it. I used to have a huge supply of entertaiment $$$ that wasn't even mine and was use it or loose it. Oh how I wasted it on lap dances!I wouldn't say you wasted it, seeing as you were on an expense account. I spend my money on wine, wonen, and song. The rest I just waste. For $ I can get FS with a hot young chick. I've spent more ob dinner with a date and got nothing. Can't beat it in the Detroit sc scene lately.

Nighthawk1955
01-12-12, 17:35
I wouldn't say you wasted it, seeing as you were on an expense account. I spend my money on wine, wonen, and song. The rest I just waste. For $ I can get FS with a hot young chick. I've spent more ob dinner with a date and got nothing. Can't beat it in the Detroit sc scene lately.This wasn't an expense report. Let's just say it was cash that was WAY above and beyond what I was able to reasonably explain to various entities (as in "where did you get that from" or "where is my cut" etc.) so I had to either spend it on services of one type or the other or simply stop collecting as much as I was collecting.

If I had access to that kind of disposable income the way the DET scene is today, my dick would get a repetitive motion injury.

Emerine25
01-12-12, 20:23
I know every girl is diferrent, but what do you guys normally pay for HJ, BJ, FS at either PH or FC?

Dsc 12
01-12-12, 21:52
Was in Brogarts the other day and saw two dancers (one blonde and one brunette) doing a brisk business in the VIP. Any reviews of the two, what is the service likeand cost? These truly are great days in some of these SCs.

JoesParty
01-13-12, 12:25
Was in Brogarts the other day and saw two dancers (one blonde and one brunette) doing a brisk business in the VIP. Any reviews of the two, what is the service likeand cost? These truly are great days in some of these SCs.The blonde likes it up the butt, and watch out for the brunette. She has a penchant for snowballing the unsuspecting gentleman.

Ok, sorry for the sarcasm. How are we supposed to know who you are talking about? As a semi-regular (not as much as I used to be) , I could probably guess. But you could greatly help your case with more information. Day? Time? Physical description (beyond merely hair color)? Did you catch names, maybe when they were called on stage?

Help us help you.

Jd2011
01-13-12, 13:53
Great reply Joe. Hilarious. I can't believe the vague reports sometimes.


The blonde likes it up the butt, and watch out for the brunette. She has a penchant for snowballing the unsuspecting gentleman.

Ok, sorry for the sarcasm. How are we supposed to know who you are talking about? As a semi-regular (not as much as I used to be) , I could probably guess. But you could greatly help your case with more information. Day? Time? Physical description (beyond merely hair color)? Did you catch names, maybe when they were called on stage?

Help us help you.

Fundboy
01-13-12, 14:58
Studio 54 over in Windsor? Didn't they invent the sheet dance? My first BJ at a club back in the late 80s when I was still in the service. Hell, it was a contact there that me a job bouncing when I got out. Is that spot still open? I recall public breast feedings too, lmao!Can someone please inform me as to what a sheet dance is? Thanks ahead of time.

Dsc 12
01-13-12, 20:15
Great reply Joe. Hilarious. I can't believe the vague reports sometimes.And boost your post count with useless replys.

Big Puff Daddy
01-14-12, 04:34
I know every girl is diferrent, but what do you guys normally pay for HJ, BJ, FS at either PH or FC?I have been to PH several times in past few months, but never took any girls up on their offer lately given I can find the same quality elsewhere cheaper. But anyways, most quoted $.5 to $$ for BJ after I talked them down, and $$.5 to $$$ for FS. One did quote me $ for BJ and $$ for FS though. I think they have a pact going so that all the girls agree to charge no less than X amount so they don't spiral the money down to nothing with the competition between girls like has happened at other clubs. That way they still make good money per act. I can get a BJ for not much more than an HJ these days, so I don't even bother with that anymore.

Dxf289
01-14-12, 14:58
Can someone please inform me as to what a sheet dance is? Thanks ahead of time.A sheet dance is when the girl straddles you and pulls a sheet over the two of you. Whatever goes in under the sheet is between you and her. This used to do this all the time at Studio 54 and I've done it at a few bachelor parties. Sounds like its time for somebody to get married, LOL!

Dxf289
01-14-12, 15:24
A lot of these girls are willing to barter. I've done photography work and computer work for a full menu plus $50 and I usually only charge $75 (don't tell them though). Get creative and see what you can get.

TwistedBrother
01-14-12, 21:06
And boost your post count with useless replys.Chances are if he has 41 posts, he doesn't care about post count. But you could give more detail.

Neilnbob
01-14-12, 22:17
I just want to say that although I appear to be a new member my previous handle was compromisedChrome browser with incognito mode FTW!

StreetMeat
01-16-12, 03:16
Extras in Canada?Nude lap dances are legal in canada, but windsor has banned them, so road trip it out to london, toronto or possibly st. Catherines / buffalo. Of course montreal might be your best bet for extras.

Big Puff Daddy
01-16-12, 12:01
OMG, I had the most incredible experience last night. I met this hot stripper at a local club a month or so ago and got her number. She said she'd do takeout for $$$. We texted back and forth but never got together until last night. Went to her place and was there for 3 hours. It was the best sex I've had in my entire life. She was a freak and I loved it. She came 6 times, and trust me she wasn't faking it. The best $$$ I've ever spent in my life. She was soooooo hot. I think she is going to have a hard time walking today.

Big Puff Daddy
01-16-12, 13:16
OMG, I had the most incredible experience last night. I met this hot stripper at a local club a month or so ago and got her number. She said she'd do takeout for $$$. We texted back and forth but never got together until last night. Went to her place and was there for 3 hours. It was the best sex I've had in my entire life. She was a freak and I loved it. She came 6 times, and trust me she wasn't faking it. The best $$$ I've ever spent in my life. She was soooooo hot. I think she is going to have a hard time walking today.I tried to edit my post to add more, but it looks like you can't edit posts? Anyways, the girl was around 25 yo, face a 9, body a 9, performance 10, attitude 10. All around a 9/10 for looks. It was like being with a girlfriend, total GFE. I have a feeling she doesn't do this often. I tried to search her number on google and no hits. So I don't think she advertises on Backpage or anything, and she says she only danced a dozen times in past year and hardly ever gives out her number. And that was the only time she danced at that club in past year. So I guess I got lucky, real lucky. I can't get her out of my mind now. She was soooooo HOT.

Wolf88
01-16-12, 13:47
Extras in Canada?Why worry about extras. Escorting is leagal. They have licence numbers.

Duckydo
01-16-12, 13:50
I tried to edit my post to add more, but it looks like you can't edit posts? Anyways, the girl was around 25 yo, face a 9, body a 9, performance 10, attitude 10. All around a 9/10 for looks. It was like being with a girlfriend, total GFE. I have a feeling she doesn't do this often. I tried to search her number on google and no hits. So I don't think she advertises on Backpage or anything, and she says she only danced a dozen times in past year and hardly ever gives out her number. And that was the only time she danced at that club in past year. So I guess I got lucky, real lucky. I can't get her out of my mind now. She was soooooo HOT.Pray tell are you going to keep us in the dark as show is?

Oneknot
01-16-12, 16:19
Stopped in to jhs Friday night and met a hot south American girl. She was loud and boisterous as the sa girls always are. Went to the VIP with her, she got naked, gave a lack luster CBJ, and then went for the full monty. Went on a nice trip to Greece with her. This girl was a grunter and afterwards stated that she hadn't been opened up that much in a while.

I know some of you guys dis the place, but there is a lot of fun to be had there is you know what to look for. Also this girl was a film star in LA.

Emerine25
01-16-12, 19:17
Do the bouncers at the Flight Club of PH club count the number of songs in the VIP area or do the girls have a flat rate they must pay out at the end of the night?

Big Puff Daddy
01-16-12, 20:24
Pray tell are you going to keep us in the dark as show is?Unfortunately I will have to leave you all in the dark. She said that is the only time she has danced at that club in the past year, so it's not like you could go there again hoping to see her. She said she changes her stage name every time she goes to a new club. She also rarely dances and hardly ever gives out her phone number. So I guess I can just count my lucky stars I found her and experienced her. For some reason I think maybe she might advertise online from time to time when she needs money, but if she does it must be under a different phone number, as the one she gave me had no hits on google. Maybe she gave me her personal cell, and the one she uses for clients is another?

Road King #1
01-17-12, 01:56
Stopped in to jhs Friday night and met a hot south American girl. She was loud and boisterous as the sa girls always are. Went to the VIP with her, she got naked, gave a lack luster CBJ, and then went for the full monty. Went on a nice trip to Greece with her. This girl was a grunter and afterwards stated that she hadn't been opened up that much in a while.

I know some of you guys dis the place, but there is a lot of fun to be had there is you know what to look for. Also this girl was a film star in LA.How much did the ride cost? Were there any black girls working?

TwistedBrother
01-17-12, 02:09
Well, nice that you had a good time, but you leave us wondering what was the point of your original post. It's frustrating on our end to read about a girl, but not have any way to find or contact her. I'm sure you had good intentions, but you get what we're saying?


Unfortunately I will have to leave you all in the dark. She said that is the only time she has danced at that club in the past year, so it's not like you could go there again hoping to see her. She said she changes her stage name every time she goes to a new club. She also rarely dances and hardly ever gives out her phone number. So I guess I can just count my lucky stars I found her and experienced her. For some reason I think maybe she might advertise online from time to time when she needs money, but if she does it must be under a different phone number, as the one she gave me had no hits on google. Maybe she gave me her personal cell, and the one she uses for clients is another?

Sevup
01-17-12, 02:22
Unfortunately I will have to leave you all in the dark. She said that is the only time she has danced at that club in the past year, so it's not like you could go there again hoping to see her. She said she changes her stage name every time she goes to a new club. She also rarely dances and hardly ever gives out her phone number. So I guess I can just count my lucky stars I found her and experienced her. For some reason I think maybe she might advertise online from time to time when she needs money, but if she does it must be under a different phone number, as the one she gave me had no hits on google. Maybe she gave me her personal cell, and the one she uses for clients is another?Yes, this is more or less just a brag, no useful information at all to the viewer.

Oneknot
01-17-12, 11:46
How much did the ride cost? Were there any black girls working?.14 was more than I like to drop but I gave her a good tip for excellent attitude which is honestly refreshing. Not very often you get a girl who is truly fun! She did mention that she is normally .22 on a cruise around the world.

Yes the night crew was just starting and the black girls usually start dancing at night. I usually avoid them at the hot spot as they are aggressive, promising the world and not delivering, slow rolls on the wallet. Etc... Also, there are white girls on the day shift that I'd avoid with a ten foot pole. If you have any common/street/ho sense hey are pretty easy to spot. Especially at this place.

Dxf289
01-17-12, 15:53
La Chambre for lunch today and struck up a convo with this light-skinned cutie named Seductress. She's tatted and pierced. She talked a good game, but when I came back from releasing the beer, she was gone. I mean out the club gone. She did give me a number and a work schedule before her disappearing act though. Any info on this one?

Big Puff Daddy
01-17-12, 20:42
In Big Puff Daddy's defense, if he posts the girls name and club she works at, I guarantee you some Ass-Hole will fuck up a good thing for him (this is a 100% open forum, you don't even have to register to read posts) It has happened to me many time with SW, that's one of the reasons I call the top-notch girls "Gem#" so I can pick and chose who I pass on info to.

Now the other side of the coin is a lot of guys are going to call BS if you don't pass on her info to anyone and this will hurt your board credit for when your trying to get info, Big Puff Daddy your between a rock and a hard place with this one.The purpose of me posting this story at all, since yes it doesn't help any of you, is that there are only 2 of my friends that I trust to tell stories about my "hobby" and only because they dabble in the hobby from time to time too and I wanted to shout it from the mountain top. It was such an incredible experience I could not keep it in. The girl seems to be very selective, so even if I could pin her down to a club she frequents or tell you her name, she may claim she doesn't do extras when approached by other guys. So yes, it may fuck it up for me. Like I said, she doesn't seem to dance much at all and said she changes her stage name every time she goes to a new club. I do have a picture of her, but there's no way in hell I would betray her trust and fuck it up for myself. Do you blame me. Anonymity with this hobby is important for both sides.

Member #4199
01-17-12, 22:56
Now the other side of the coin is a lot of guys are going to call BS if you don't pass on her info to anyone and this will hurt your board credit for when your trying to get info, Big Puff Daddy your between a rock and a hard place with this one.I don't know I think it depends on a lot of things. If you're active then keeping one to yourself isn't really such a big thing as far as the board goes. It's always an individuals prerogative anyways. I was in this hobby for many years before I found the boards and then was guarded about how much I spilled. Still am. I had a few close and trusted friends that I shared info with also. Still do. But you know what? If I find a really really good one I still like to keep it to myself as long as possible. But thats only if they're way under the radar and not out there in any way. It's been a long time for that kind of a hook up actually. Anything else is fair game. I can't control what any single person is going to do anyways and I gave up playing save a hoe long ago after the last burn job.

His post does contain a wealth of other useful info to the savy. If nothing else it says; if you get out there and do the leg work good things can be had. So even the brags got info if you can read some of them correctly. Seasoned mongers are seasoned for a reason and they didn't come to it over night. I got no problem sharing with certain people around here. But there's only one guy here I feel I "owe" anything to. (He should check his pm's also) I consider myself pretty much semi retired these days but I was knocking them down long before I came here and I'll still be knocking them down long after I've left here.

Yes there are A LOT of lurkers here. I learned it the hard way real quick also. No more heavily detailed info on the open board. PM is fine. What happens out in public with the SW's is, well, public. But there's a least a few that know more they're saying. That type of info shouldn't be for the lurkers. L & E are in that word for a reason.

Last time I posted detailed specific info I went out the next night and it looked like a FN a-hole parade. LE even had a couple of floats in that parade.

Bigdikdanaler
01-17-12, 23:53
It's all good man. I'd be excited about it too.Yeah sometimes you just want to share some crazy shit you stumbled into, all good with me.

Cnote313
01-18-12, 09:24
Hey Oneknot, I was just wondering if you recalled the name of your dancer.


Stopped in to jhs Friday night and met a hot south American girl. She was loud and boisterous as the sa girls always are. Went to the VIP with her, she got naked, gave a lack luster CBJ, and then went for the full monty. Went on a nice trip to Greece with her. This girl was a grunter and afterwards stated that she hadn't been opened up that much in a while.

I know some of you guys dis the place, but there is a lot of fun to be had there is you know what to look for. Also this girl was a film star in LA.

Cnote313
01-18-12, 09:34
Also, did she tell you what name she "performed" under out in LA? I would love to look up and check out her "body" of work. I might have to go to jhs to experience this hottie. Jhs has never ever been on my tour list until now.


Stopped in to jhs Friday night and met a hot south American girl. She was loud and boisterous as the sa girls always are. Went to the VIP with her, she got naked, gave a lack luster CBJ, and then went for the full monty. Went on a nice trip to Greece with her. This girl was a grunter and afterwards stated that she hadn't been opened up that much in a while.

I know some of you guys dis the place, but there is a lot of fun to be had there is you know what to look for. Also this girl was a film star in LA.

Costanza
01-18-12, 12:11
Hey Oneknot, I was just wondering if you recalled the name of your dancer.I hope her name wasn't "Sexy", and she's not from Costa Rica. Did she have wild looking eyes? Did she say "I want to suck your BANANA" more than once? If these apply, go to the doctor immediately. That girl is a streetwalker, and no film star.

Electronman
01-18-12, 12:52
I have been to PH several times in past few months, but never took any girls up on their offer lately given I can find the same quality elsewhere cheaper. But anyways, most quoted $.5 to $$ for BJ after I talked them down, and $$.5 to $$$ for FS. One did quote me $ for BJ and $$ for FS though. I think they have a pact going so that all the girls agree to charge no less than X amount so they don't spiral the money down to nothing with the competition between girls like has happened at other clubs. That way they still make good money per act. I can get a BJ for not much more than an HJ these days, so I don't even bother with that anymore.I agree with Puff Daddy on the "going price points" at PH. PH and to a lesser extent Flight Club dancers seem to have an informal "price fixing" arrangement to keep the prices high. One dancer at FC told me that she promised not to do FS for less than $$$. She wouldn't reveal who she promised but I suspect it was the other dancers. That said, some of the dancers will negotiate- depends on how many other prospects are available in the club, whether they are motivated to make "tip out" near the end of their shift and how "persuasive" you are.

Prices seem to be much more reasonable at BTs, Bogarts and of course the "WalMart of Strip Clubs", Henry 8, south.

JoesParty
01-18-12, 13:51
I hope her name wasn't "Sexy", and she's not from Costa Rica. Did she have wild looking eyes? Did she say "I want to suck your BANANA" more than once? If these apply, go to the doctor immediately. That girl is a streetwalker, and no film star.Costanza beat me to it. We've all heard the banana line at least once. Hell, I'll even cop to falling for it before I knew any better. And yes, Oneknot, if this is the girl, please let us know so we can take appropriate evasive action. Glad you seem to have had a good time, because that chick is crazy.

If it's NOT her, please tell us so we can undertake thorough investigations of our own.

Rocket Man
01-18-12, 15:27
What is the best Detroit area strip club for lunch? Looking for the complete package-food and decent dancers with their own menus.

Oneknot
01-18-12, 17:02
Costanza beat me to it. We've all heard the banana line at least once. Hell, I'll even cop to falling for it before I knew any better. And yes, Oneknot, if this is the girl, please let us know so we can take appropriate evasive action. Glad you seem to have had a good time, because that chick is crazy.

If it's NOT her, please tell us so we can undertake thorough investigations of our own.Her name wasn't sexy, however I did get the banana line. I did loOk her up and she is in some films. Everything was covered and had two different hats.

Sirena Lewis

JoesParty
01-18-12, 18:36
Her name wasn't sexy, however I did get the banana line. I did loOk her up and she is in some films. Everything was covered and had two different hats.

Sirena LewisYeah, that's her-at least it looks like a much younger version, as you can see it in the eyes. The past 15 years haven't been terribly kind to her. I'll let more senior members give a more definitive I'd, though. Thanks for the name.

Big Puff Daddy
01-18-12, 21:01
Her name wasn't sexy, however I did get the banana line. I did loOk her up and she is in some films. Everything was covered and had two different hats.

Sirena LewisI'm not sure the forum rules on this, but I found a few movie downloads of Sirena Lewis. She must have done them long ago because it was hard to find:

http://oron.com/ok219fv4gmjz

http://oron.com/tncsnpyemgwi

http://oron.com/yflnglsyj4hk

http://rapidshare.com/files/219850227/Sirena_Lewis_-_Black_Knockers23.wmv

http://fileserve.com/file/pzWcFBw

http://www.filefactory.com/file/ahb50bd/

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0507761/

Duckydo
01-19-12, 13:15
What is the best Detroit area strip club for lunch? Looking for the complete package-food and decent dancers with their own menus.Penthouse Club for best food and talent. Hustler for best food, great meal specials, hit and miss on the talent. Coliseum B+ food, A- talent.

Dxf289
01-19-12, 14:53
Those no info on the light skinned cutie with tatts and piercings at La Chambre?

Sevup
01-19-12, 15:29
Coliseum gets my vote. Great food and a score every time.I agree, never had a bad meal at Coli, the steaks have been great. I've also eaten at Hustler and Penthouse, no complaints at either of those as well.

Big Puff Daddy
01-19-12, 21:41
Those no info on the light skinned cutie with tatts and piercings at La Chambre?I've been to La Chambre a few times on night shift to visit a black dancer I'm friends with, but never on days. The VIP room is not exactly conducive to extras given the curtain only comes down halfway from the top of the ceiling. I have been offered a HJ from another girl on nights once, but I never asked any girl for extras as I really didn't know if it even happened here. But then again given it pretty much happens in the open at Bogarts for all the world to see who knows.

Jooop
01-20-12, 02:31
Coliseum gets my vote. Great food and a score every time.I agree it is great food.

its great food but score I must not have any game.

Dxf289
01-20-12, 09:58
I've been to La Chambre a few times on night shift to visit a black dancer I'm friends with, but never on days. The VIP room is not exactly conducive to extras given the curtain only comes down halfway from the top of the ceiling. I have been offered a HJ from another girl on nights once, but I never asked any girl for extras as I really didn't know if it even happened here. But then again given it pretty much happens in the open at Bogarts for all the world to see who knows.But was looking for info on a dancer named Seductress.

Travelrat
01-20-12, 18:04
Stopped in to jhs Friday night and met a hot south American girl. She was loud and boisterous as the sa girls always are. Went to the VIP with her, she got naked, gave a lack luster CBJ, and then went for the full monty. Went on a nice trip to Greece with her. This girl was a grunter and afterwards stated that she hadn't been opened up that much in a while.

I know some of you guys dis the place, but there is a lot of fun to be had there is you know what to look for. Also this girl was a film star in LA.Visited the spot this week and found the same lady, porn star story, loud & talkative. She agreed to FS for. 7 This was in day shift so, maybe better deals at that time. Back door available for same price. She's a horny one. Also, the dancers here were working as waitresses and not happy about it. One was hot, her name was Sara. Thin brunette about 5' 3" small on the top but great package. She agreed to dance for me. However, management said no, she had to keep working the tables. Got digits for later meet next time in town. TRat.

NewInRichmond
01-20-12, 22:52
In town for a few days, this sounds like the club to go to. Where is it? Any tips?

Blueox54
01-21-12, 00:13
Visited the spot this week and found the same lady, porn star story, loud & talkative. She agreed to FS for. 7 This was in day shift so, maybe better deals at that time. Back door available for same price. She's a horny one. Also, the dancers here were working as waitresses and not happy about it. One was hot, her name was Sara. Thin brunette about 5' 3" small on the top but great package. She agreed to dance for me. However, management said no, she had to keep working the tables. Got digits for later meet next time in town. TRat.So what's her stage name? Vegas? She work days or nights? Any links to her work?

Big Puff Daddy
01-21-12, 02:03
So what's her stage name? Vegas? She work days or nights? Any links to her work?I posted links to her work a few posts down. I found 4 or 5 movie downloads. It looks like she hasn't done a film in 10 years.

Jackbb
01-21-12, 09:54
I posted links to her work a few posts down. I found 4 or 5 movie downloads. It looks like she hasn't done a film in 10 years.I hope Jhs doesn't mean, John's Hot Spot?

Catapult
01-21-12, 14:29
In town for a few days, this sounds like the club to go to. Where is it? Any tips?You actually just stumbled into the topic of the moment. There are much better / more consistent options in Detroit. Try BT's, Coliseum, Hustler, or Penthouse before John's Hot Spot. Google for locations, talk to the ladies and the option will be there for you leave a happy man.

Bigdikdanaler
01-23-12, 20:56
Got FS for 2 on sat. Night, young blonde, good service so I tipped $40 and did a bump with her, bought a drink so still in for like 3, but it was nice to have one go for 2, a few were throwing out crazy numbers! All in all a good night

Big Puff Daddy
01-24-12, 00:21
Got FS for 2 on sat. Night, young blonde, good service so I tipped $40 and did a bump with her, bought a drink so still in for like 3, but it was nice to have one go for 2, a few were throwing out crazy numbers! All in all a good nightDon't understand why anyone would tip after the price is negotiated, but as long as you had fun. I've had girls try to guilt me into tipping, but I never did. Are prices at PH coming down?

Bigdikdanaler
01-24-12, 23:47
Don't understand why anyone would tip after the price is negotiated, but as long as you had fun. I've had girls try to guilt me into tipping, but I never did. Are prices at PH coming down?I know it is stupid, I think I am rewarding for agreeing to lower price, plus I am so in awe some 20yr old hottie just fucked the shit out of me. I think day shift is coming down more than night. 200 and good full sex is available from more than a few, mostly the young ones, the one I had came in from Jackson.

Horn Dog Too
01-25-12, 22:30
First time to the club, after reading many reports here. I was expecting a really sleezy dive! What I got was a very pleasant joint, that is very comfortable to me and guys like me. I will return, probably more than to either the playhouse, landing strip or the inkster clubs.

When I walked in about 4; 45pm I was greeted by a lovely blond MILF type on the main stage and a long legged brunette on the side stage. I made eye contact with the MILF who in my opinion was really pretty, sure wish I could remember her name, maybe Donna. Before she could come over, another young lovely approached me and initiated conversation. Didn't catch her name either. She started asking about dances and I told her I hadn't been there before, so she kind of hinted we could have real fun in the back. I asked how much, she said each girl is different but you have to buy a wristband for 10bux to the 'VIP', which is as reported just some plywood booths with a curtain. She left for someone else, and before my MILF could make her move another hot blonde sat down and basically offered me a BJ for $, and all else for $$. I said, I'd think about it.

Then Donna sat down (finally) and we made nice conversation, and I knew she was going to get into my wallet as soon as she smiled. So after small talk and watching about 5 more girls dance, she asked about having fun. I said sure, how much? She said what do you want to do? I said BJ, she said 'a bill" I said I didn't have that much, sorry, I'm sure you're worth it, and I'm not the type to negotiate. Right. So after a few seconds hesitation, it was, how much do you have? I showed her. 6. She said, ok. 10 for the house and. 5 for me. Off we went to the booths. It was REALLY fun.

Overall I'd rate the dancers above average, certainly very nice and friendly, and the facility, comfortable.

Total damage: 5 cover. 7 beer and tip. 10 wristband. 60 dances with a tip. 82 if my cyphering is correct. Not too shabby

Truck Engineer
01-26-12, 20:48
I said BJ, she said 'a bill" I said I didn't have that much, sorry, I'm sure you're worth it, and I'm not the type to negotiate. Right. So after a few seconds hesitation, it was, how much do you have?This is what I always do. Let the competition of the other girls in the club talk her into it and not you talk her into it. You usually get better service and don't risk offending them and having to pay for a poor attitude.

Member #4934
01-27-12, 15:17
First time to the club, after reading many reports here. I was expecting a really sleezy dive! What I got was a very pleasant joint, that is very comfortable to me and guys like me. I will return, probably more than to either the playhouse, landing strip or the inkster

Overall I'd rate the dancers above average, certainly very nice and friendly, and the facility, comfortable.

Total damage: 5 cover. 7 beer and tip. 10 wristband. 60 dances with a tip. 82 if my cyphering is correct. Not too shabbyNice report, and glad you had fun! The girls (women) at H8S are some of the friendliest dancers I've ever encountered. Good job on the price, because the girls tend to charge about 25% more there on average, compared with the local competition.

Oregon2020
01-31-12, 07:47
Sunday afternoon and I thought I'd try my luck. Montana approached me and seemed nice but was called to the stage. Lacey with a platinum long-hair wig offered to play, so I took her up on it. Not exactly a mistake-she was good looking-but she wasn't really all that enthusiastic. Wouldn't repeat except in a pinch.

Member #4934
01-31-12, 14:20
Sunday afternoon and I thought I'd try my luck. Montana approached me and seemed nice but was called to the stage. Lacey with a platinum long-hair wig offered to play, so I took her up on it. Not exactly a mistake-she was good looking-but she wasn't really all that enthusiastic. Wouldn't repeat except in a pinch.Oregon2020, try the day shift on Fridays, I've only been 4 times, but the two Friday afternoon trips were the best for me. LOTS of enthusiasm, especially if you hang with Angelique or Jerrica. Of course, YMMV.

GoBlue
01-31-12, 19:49
I have a hotel room for a bachlor party sat night in downtown detroit. I was wondering if anyone has ever gotten any extras at Bouzouki downtown. Any other clubs in the area?

Thanks guys!

Leathvj
01-31-12, 21:59
Decided to stop in Monday around 130pm and I could not believe how dead it was. Only one other patron, at the bar talking with a lady, another older skinny, dancer looked mid to late 40's, smoked outside, then just talked to the bouncer for a while, third girl, I think was in the VIP area, but just walked into the kitchen, never appeared again. I had one drink, waited about 20 minutes and not ever one of them get on stage (no reason to I guess). I haven't been there in a while, but even on a Monday afternoon, I have seen it packed, with plenty of dancers. Did I just happen to catch a bad day, or has it been like this a while. I know extras probably never happen there, never been my luck, but I have always enjoyed this place, cheap and plenty decent talent to look at, any other similar experiences?

Jabba
02-01-12, 00:00
Oregon2020, try the day shift on Fridays, I've only been 4 times, but the two Friday afternoon trips were the best for me. LOTS of enthusiasm, especially if you hang with Angelique or Jerrica. Of course, YMMV.Jerrica was a good time in the club and also offers takeout. She gave me her number but I have not followed up as of yet.

Dxf289
02-01-12, 10:15
Decided to stop in Monday around 130pm and I could not believe how dead it was. Only one other patron, at the bar talking with a lady, another older skinny, dancer looked mid to late 40's, smoked outside, then just talked to the bouncer for a while, third girl, I think was in the VIP area, but just walked into the kitchen, never appeared again. I had one drink, waited about 20 minutes and not ever one of them get on stage (no reason to I guess). I haven't been there in a while, but even on a Monday afternoon, I have seen it packed, with plenty of dancers. Did I just happen to catch a bad day, or has it been like this a while. I know extras probably never happen there, never been my luck, but I have always enjoyed this place, cheap and plenty decent talent to look at, any other similar experiences?Went to meet a dancer I know to work on her laptop. Met on a Friday at 5:30. It was just her and one other girl, ON A FRIDAY NIGHT. I didn't even take the complimentary dance she offer. It was the same way at Hot Tamales on Tuesday around 2 pm, where I dropped off her laptop. Just her with an old guy at the bar.

Dxf289
02-01-12, 10:19
I have a hotel room for a bachlor party sat night in downtown detroit. I was wondering if anyone has ever gotten any extras at Bouzouki downtown. Any other clubs in the area?

Thanks guys!Check out COBRAS at 1416 Griswald

Bigboi47
02-01-12, 13:39
I have a hotel room for a bachlor party sat night in downtown detroit. I was wondering if anyone has ever gotten any extras at Bouzouki downtown. Any other clubs in the area?

Thanks guys!Not many extras going on here anymore the VIP area is open not closed off and a night the bouncers watch the dancers closely. Take out might be available.

Dxf289
02-01-12, 17:22
That is the bar I do work at. LOL. Extras at not common there with all the remodeling going on. And for the suburban white boys, the place is pretty loud black and proud at night. I get along everywhere, but I know a lot of guys might be a bit scared to go in there.Wet Barbie. She has a FULL menu (Greek, BBBJ, dp, I've never heard the word "no" from her) and never disappoints. She is what us Black fellows refer to as a BEAST (this definitely a good thing). She does take out as well. Very reasonably priced.

CockSmithe
02-01-12, 19:21
I know this has been said a million times. Do it.

I do work for a club in Detroit and was talking to a smoking hot dancer the other day. Conversation went great, was not strip club or extras related at all. She mentioned needing some stuff done at her place and of course I said I could take care of her. Numbers exchanged. She has called a couple times just to chit-chat and has not even asked about working at her place, but only about me spending the night, have a threesome with my girl, going out to eat, etc.

I kinda got the "boil my rabbit" vibe from her and stopped answering her calls. Now she calls my phone a few times a day, in the middle of the night, day, whatever. She is a fucking gorgeous black girl that does a lot of those posters and promotional flyers that you see in clubs. Insanely put together, and might just have a screw loose.

Get a hobby phone!If you have a smartphone try using Google Voice. It is a bit easier to do than having to hide a phone from the SO. Free too.

GoBlue
02-01-12, 19:29
That is the bar I do work at. LOL. Extras at not common there with all the remodeling going on. And for the suburban white boys, the place is pretty loud black and proud at night. I get along everywhere, but I know a lot of guys might be a bit scared to go in there.Gotcha. Thanks alot man. I'm not afraid but am def a suburban white boy. Maybe bouzouki would be better?

Eq Twink
02-02-12, 09:24
No extras at Bazouki. Not usually anyway. Take a ride west a few miles to BT's. Guaranteed score there. I'd check first to see if they are open. They were closed for "remodeling".They've been open again for a couple weeks.

It was just a brief "remodeling" period.

Dxf289
02-02-12, 14:59
At the Grind? Night shift? I'm working there today and will inquire.Be a bouncer at the Grind. How long have you been there?

Det313
02-03-12, 13:23
Can anyone tell me how to set up my evo for hobby use without my s. O. Finding out? I'm not tech savvy. My phone has my gmail set up and I can't figure out how to set up a second account with another number. I need to be able to turn it off from my smart phone and not be tracked to my real phone number or real gmail account. I was told you could do this and then also make calls from your phone under your hobby gmail account. I can't figure out how to do this. Does anyone know how to do this? Send a private message so we don't fill the forum up. I would be willing to meet up with anyone at a bar so they could walk me through it.

Thanks for any help.

Genre
02-03-12, 18:03
I'll be figuring this out over the weekend on my Android. So far I only know that you use Google voice. I'll let you know when I figure it out.

Start here:

http://support.google.com/voice/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=150640From my experience, you still need a hobby phone.

If you use your primary phone, Google Voice will still share the contact list and the Call Log with the non-google voice use of the phone. The advantage of google voice is if you use a throw-away hobby phone, and get a new one, you can still use the same number (I. E. The google voice number). The second advantage is if you do set up a separate google account and profile for your google voice (and gmail for that matter) , voice mail messages to your google voice number will be accessible through your web browser and / or automatically transcribed and emailed to your google voice's gmail account.

Do not expect to be untrackable, even if you can get the google voice app to not share the contacts and call log. Google voice works by the google service calling your phone number and the number you dialed (or that dialed you) and reporting the calling number or your google voice's numbers to the other phone's caller I'd system.

I am also sure that a court order would compel google to pass on the "actual" phone number that a google voice call went to.

Good luck.

- Lex

JoesParty
02-03-12, 20:44
From my experience, you still need a hobby phone.

If you use your primary phone, Google Voice will still share the contact list and the Call Log with the non-google voice use of the phone. The advantage of google voice is if you use a throw-away hobby phone, and get a new one, you can still use the same number (I. E. The google voice number). The second advantage is if you do set up a separate google account and profile for your google voice (and gmail for that matter) , voice mail messages to your google voice number will be accessible through your web browser and / or automatically transcribed and emailed to your google voice's gmail account.

Do not expect to be untrackable, even if you can get the google voice app to not share the contacts and call log. Google voice works by the google service calling your phone number and the number you dialed (or that dialed you) and reporting the calling number or your google voice's numbers to the other phone's caller I'd system.

I am also sure that a court order would compel google to pass on the "actual" phone number that a google voice call went to.

Good luck.

- LexI agree that Google Voice most likely is NOT completely anonymous. But, for those of us for whom complete anonymity is not a concern, it is an excellent tool to get a throw-away number that can be used on your primary cell phone.

I very much like the web-based texting and control panel features and the ability to turn off the forwarding. Not to mention that the "block number" feature comes in handy when you mistakenly give your number to a psychopath.

You also are correct that all calls, GV or not, will show up in your call log. So if you need to keep that clean, it takes discipline to delete those entries.

Savvy123
02-04-12, 01:00
After reading some of the stuff here, I have hit BTs a few times over the past couple weeks and all I can say is wow. Walk in, sit down, pick your girl, take her in back and have the time of your life. Its off the hook. Have gotten 'dances' from 3 randomly chosen hotties and none dissappointed. I think its about guaranteed if you have the cash.

Namb1
02-04-12, 02:20
Went to Bogarts and H8N. Bogarts was pretty dead. Went in and stayed an hour and didn't have one dancer come up to me. Went to H8N after that and tipped a few girls on stage that I thought were cute and one blonde came over and talked to me for a few. I'm new so I'm not sure how to proposition them for what I want (any advice?). I went and got a dance from her and basically just put her hand where I wanted it and she took care of business without discussing any extra $. I tipped her $20 on top of the dances and she was more than happy. Finished my beer and split. H8N had about maybe 6 or 7 dancers working. None were smoking hot but 3 of them were 7's.

FreeToDo
02-04-12, 16:11
Went to Bogarts and H8N. Bogarts was pretty dead. Went in and stayed an hour and didn't have one dancer come up to me. Went to H8N after that and tipped a few girls on stage that I thought were cute and one blonde came over and talked to me for a few. I'm new so I'm not sure how to proposition them for what I want (any advice?). I went and got a dance from her and basically just put her hand where I wanted it and she took care of business without discussing any extra $. I tipped her $20 on top of the dances and she was more than happy. Finished my beer and split. H8N had about maybe 6 or 7 dancers working. None were smoking hot but 3 of them were 7's.At H8N you don't need advice, if the girl doesn't offer what your looking for just wait the next one will. Don't misread this, treat the ladies with respect. H8N is like shooting fish in a barrel you and the dancer will both get what makes you happy with a little patience.

Muskie1
02-04-12, 16:56
Stopped in this afternoon after a few years of no hobby related activity. Only a couple of guys and a hanful of dancers, Deanna was there, a short blonde with long hair, a thin hot black girl and a taller brunette with a great rack a great blue eyes. I got a dance from Angelique, said she has been there a few years and usually soes not worrk on Sat.

She is a shorter brunette a little baby fat and wears glasses. I am a sucker for girls with glasses, so I went back with her. Quoted 2 for full service ended at 1. 4, I know I probably could have got it lower but was thinking with wrong head. Great BJ and super tight FS. She was a little loud and got soaking wet. Brought wet naps with her and disposed of cover and did a great clean up job on me. Not one pig in the place so I did enjoy myself.

Big Puff Daddy
02-04-12, 20:16
After reading some of the stuff here, I have hit BTs a few times over the past couple weeks and all I can say is wow. Walk in, sit down, pick your girl, take her in back and have the time of your life. Its off the hook. Have gotten 'dances' from 3 randomly chosen hotties and none dissappointed. I think its about guaranteed if you have the cash.I agree 100. Did you hit day or night shift?

Bigdikdanaler
02-05-12, 22:05
I agree 100. Did you hit day or night shift?I feel the same why about ph right now, had an epic afternoon on Friday. It is like every mans dream come true, wish I could go more often.

Dxf289
02-06-12, 11:10
Got invited to this Superbowl party by a dancer friend of mine. It was a veritable fuckfest. There was very little dancing, quite a bit more groping and a whole lot of fucking as the "VIP" rooms had lines the entire night. The average charge was $100 for a trip to VIP with a $10 surcharge and $2 for protection. As drunk as I was, I "mistakenly" hit anal a few times. This was a wild ass night.

John3030
02-06-12, 14:43
Got invited to this Superbowl party by a dancer friend of mine. It was a veritable fuckfest. There was very little dancing, quite a bit more groping and a whole lot of fucking as the "VIP" rooms had lines the entire night. The average charge was $100 for a trip to VIP with a $10 surcharge and $2 for protection. As drunk as I was, I "mistakenly" hit anal a few times. This was a wild ass night.Sounds like a great time, mind if I ask what club?

Big Puff Daddy
02-06-12, 23:20
I feel the same why about ph right now, had an epic afternoon on Friday. It is like every mans dream come true, wish I could go more often.Have the prices come down at all at PH? I was there last week and had FS with this dancer I have wanted for a month now. I paid $$$. More than I really wanted to pay, but I had to have her. I usually don't pay anywhere close to that, but she would not budge. I have no regrets as I enjoyed every minute of it.

Savvy123
02-07-12, 00:13
These are the top 3 right now for value and selection IMO so here are my thoughts.

The cost has always been my problem at PH, I'm just not paying 300. Hell she needs to be off the hook for me to consider 200. And the prices have always been high there. Haven't been in 4 or 5 months so be interesting to hear if they have gotten more in line with other clubs. As a side note, I once got a dance from Ginger at PH, wouldn't go below $$$ for FS, but would do oral for $ so off we went for a quick BJ. In the middle she climbs up on and rides me like crazy. When I say 'I'm about to' she is like 'not yet, wait' so I hold off and we end up in multiple positions for like 30 minutes or more. At the end she was all sweaty, hair fucked up, makeup smeared etc, girl had to head straight to the shower LOL. Gave her the $ and she smiled and told me to come back soon. Don't know if I just got lucky, caught her at a good time or what, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone else had good times with Ginger (short reddish blonde hair. 5'5".130, about 25) and what the results were.

BTs is fun lately, and 150-200 can buy you a lot of fun with a high quality girl. I used to go to BTs in like 2008-2010 and it was ok but mostly hit or miss, so when I started hearing things I was a bit sceptical. But its true, dances are very very nice. Its 10 cover (night shift) .6-8 for a beer, a 20 to the bouncer (anyone stiffed him or paid less, and what was the result?) , then 150 for dances, so its definitely more than a bogarts or a H8 but the quality of the girl and the environment are faaaaaaar superior.

Hustler has girls like BTs but just fewer of them. I have had to leave there many times because there were only a couple girls I wanted dances from and they were constantly busy. Also the hustler VIPs are off the hook: large and spacious (the big ones in back nearly 10x10) , wall mounted TVs, real doors, total privacy. Again its 10 cover. 8 beer. 20 bouncer and 150-200 for 'dances. ' If they had a wider selection of girls this would definitely be my spot when I wanted to spend a little extra (for the awesome VIP rooms) , but as it is now, it is very hit and miss.

Savvy123
02-07-12, 00:15
Anyone had dances from her? She is a young cutie on day shift with short blonde hair. Have talked to her a couple times and considered it but never taken the plunge, I get a definite 'no extras' vibe from her. Anyone?

Thanks in advance

Drlickaclit
02-07-12, 00:50
Got invited to this Superbowl party by a dancer friend of mine. It was a veritable fuckfest. There was very little dancing, quite a bit more groping and a whole lot of fucking as the "VIP" rooms had lines the entire night. The average charge was $100 for a trip to VIP with a $10 surcharge and $2 for protection. As drunk as I was, I "mistakenly" hit anal a few times. This was a wild ass night.Sounds like a great time! Next time invite me!

Dxf289
02-07-12, 14:25
Sounds like a great time, mind if I ask what club?But I don't think it's wise to advertise locations. The club that ran the flyers, Hot Tamales, Sunset Strip and Club Venus.

Big Puff Daddy
02-07-12, 20:17
These are the top 3 right now for value and selection IMO so here are my thoughts.

The cost has always been my problem at PH, I'm just not paying 300. Hell she needs to be off the hook for me to consider 200. And the prices have always been high there. Haven't been in 4 or 5 months so be interesting to hear if they have gotten more in line with other clubs. As a side note, I once got a dance from Ginger at PH, wouldn't go below $$$ for FS, but would do oral for $ so off we went for a quick BJ. In the middle she climbs up on and rides me like crazy. When I say 'I'm about to' she is like 'not yet, wait' so I hold off and we end up in multiple positions for like 30 minutes or more. At the end she was all sweaty, hair fucked up, makeup smeared etc, girl had to head straight to the shower LOL. Gave her the $ and she smiled and told me to come back soon. Don't know if I just got lucky, caught her at a good time or what, but I'd be interested to hear if anyone else had good times with Ginger (short reddish blonde hair. 5'5".130, about 25) and what the results were.

BTs is fun lately, and 150-200 can buy you a lot of fun with a high quality girl. I used to go to BTs in like 2008-2010 and it was ok but mostly hit or miss, so when I started hearing things I was a bit sceptical. But its true, dances are very very nice. Its 10 cover (night shift).6-8 for a beer, a 20 to the bouncer (anyone stiffed him or paid less, and what was the result?) , then 150 for dances, so its definitely more than a bogarts or a H8 but the quality of the girl and the environment are faaaaaaar superior.

Hustler has girls like BTs but just fewer of them. I have had to leave there many times because there were only a couple girls I wanted dances from and they were constantly busy. Also the hustler VIPs are off the hook: large and spacious (the big ones in back nearly 10x10) , wall mounted TVs, real doors, total privacy. Again its 10 cover. 8 beer. 20 bouncer and 150-200 for 'dances. ' If they had a wider selection of girls this would definitely be my spot when I wanted to spend a little extra (for the awesome VIP rooms) , but as it is now, it is very hit and miss.I agree with you to some extent.

PH: girls want a lot of money. Lately they seem to want $$.5 to $$$ for FS. Some very attractive girls, but I can get 2 or 3 different girls at other clubs for that same total money. I would say the lower end of the beauty scale is higher than most any club, meaning there aren't any nasty looking ones here. They don't look like some crack head who just did 20 guys that day and the customers are more upscale so you don't feel like every Tom Dick and Harry just had these girls before you did. I guess the higher price keeps the riff raff out as well.

BT: although they ask for $.5 to $$ for FS, I usually pay $ to $.5 for FS. Some real attractive girls, some not so much. Best all around value IMHO. Where else can you get FS with an 8 for $?

HC: by far has the best VIP rooms with a door and all, flat screen TVs, private bathrooms, stripper poles, etc. Not "total" privacy as you may think as I hear the bouncers sometimes peak in the peep hole to see if the girls are doing extras so they can get there blackmail cut to not say anything. The smaller rooms that go on each side of the stage are only $5 to bouncer, and the better rooms are $10 or $20. Girl quality is hit or miss as you said. I can always find a few I want to take in the back though.

Bogarts: I find disgusting. The quality of the girls makes me want to puke. Only been there twice, and that was enough to never go again. VIP room if you can call it that sux. Very blue collar, just not my kind of thing. Waitresses constantly harass you to buy a drink. Fuck that. If I want to see a bunch of crack head looking chicks with stretch marks all over there stomach from having kids I'll go down to the welfare office. Plus the 2nd time I went there some asshole keyed my car in the parking lot.

In reality, I only find a few dancers at any given club that I find attractive enough to ME that I would want to pay them for "dances". I am very picky. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I may find a girl to be an 8 or 9 that another guy might think is a 6 and vice versa. Some guys like a pretty face over a great body, some guys like tits, some guys like ass, some guys like legs, some guys like white girls, some guys like black girls, some guys like Asian girls, some guys like it all.

Big Puff Daddy
02-07-12, 20:33
I don't know if I just collect dancers phone numbers for the hell of it or what, but I was cleaning out my phone list one day and counted phone numbers for 30 dancers. Most I never contacted, I just kept them just in case. The rest I only text from time to time, if they are my favorites that I want to see again, so I know if they are going to be in the club, or to meet up for a real date. I found about 95% of dancers give me their number freely. Some of them tell me they very rarely give out their number, but they give it to me (which I believe). Funny thing is due to something I learned on this site, I can internet search their number free with Anireport and find their real full name sometimes. Then I look them up on Facebook to get pictures of them. I also do a quick google search to see if they have escort ads. I just want something to remember them by I guess because most girls do not let you take a picture of them for fear you'll post it on the web and their friends / family will find out what they do. Which I fully understand. But I don't think people realize how much info is out there free on the internet and what little time it takes. Funny thing is I have found the phone number to be registered in their Moms name sometimes or another dancers name. When I looked up phone numbers on BP or from SW numbers my buddy had, the phone numbers were sometimes listed under what I think was probably their pimp or escort agency company name.

Big Puff Daddy
02-07-12, 20:36
The prices will NEVER come down at the PHC.I guess that's what they call price fixing huh? It's kind of like an oil cartel? I hear the girls have an agreement to not perform services for less than X amount so that a guy can't shop around among the girls and drive prices down with competition.

Big Puff Daddy
02-07-12, 20:45
So I'm at one of my more favorite SC this weekend and this average white trash looking dancer comes up to the guy next to me. She's nothing special. The guy is mixed black and white. She says you are cute and have such gorgeous eyes I would love to have a baby from you. The guy laughs. She said I'm serious I want to have a baby and you don't have to worry about me coming after you for child support. No strings attached I just want your sperm. I evesdrop for 10-15 minutes on the conversation because I am stunned. It seems like he is agreeing to what she wants. Then they go up to the VIP room. I could not fucking believe it. I don't know if he fucked her BB or if she just kept the used condom to put the sperm in her turkey baster, but I think it went down. Unbelievable!

Bigdikdanaler
02-07-12, 22:39
Hey fellow mongers. Going to hit bt's tomorrow as I have been thru just about every one at ph. Does bt's have a smoking room? How private is the VIP? Open to pm's on dancers, going on day shift. Thanks guys

Big Puff Daddy
02-08-12, 00:11
Hey fellow mongers. Going to hit bt's tomorrow as I have been thru just about every one at ph. Does bt's have a smoking room? How private is the VIP? Open to pm's on dancers, going on day shift. Thanks guysLOL, you've been through almost every dancer at PH? Did you leave any for me? I have been to BT's a lot in the past few months. The VIP rooms are all private with a bench and curtain you pull over. Some rooms bigger than others but no difference in price. There is no smoking room that I know of there. I'll PM you some dancers if I remember any names.

Anansi
02-08-12, 01:41
So I'm at one of my more favorite SC this weekend and this average white trash looking dancer comes up to the guy next to me. She's nothing special. The guy is mixed black and white. She says you are cute and have such gorgeous eyes I would love to have a baby from you. The guy laughs. She said I'm serious I want to have a baby and you don't have to worry about me coming after you for child support. No strings attached I just want your sperm. I evesdrop for 10-15 minutes on the conversation because I am stunned. It seems like he is agreeing to what she wants. Then they go up to the VIP room. I could not fucking believe it. I don't know if he fucked her BB or if she just kept the used condom to put the sperm in her turkey baster, but I think it went down. Unbelievable!Breeders happen more than you think. (I have been propositioned before in Nevada and Detroit) ESP for the Proven guys who have cute kids.

Ghetto women don't care about things like stability, they just want pretty mixed babies to turn out like Rae dawn chong or Rosario dawson or the Rock.

Duckydo
02-08-12, 02:21
Hey fellow mongers. Going to hit bt's tomorrow as I have been thru just about every one at ph. Does bt's have a smoking room? How private is the VIP? Open to pm's on dancers, going on day shift. Thanks guysYou went through everyone at PH? You must have dropped some dollars. Bt's does not have a smoking room per se. Everyone smokes in the open and it is tolerated. Peelers will walk around with cigarettes in the hands. VIP rooms as was said is a bench and a thin curtain. It's funny how when I am plowing a peeler, I can hear one moaning next to my booth as she is getting pounded. Day shift is hit and miss. There are deals to be had and a benji will get you what you want. Bt's is like shooting fish in a barrel. It's all in how you negotiate.

Savvy123
02-08-12, 08:49
BTs does not have a smoking area, but you can smoke in the entire place. Only thing is you have to ask your waitress / bartender for an ashtray. The VIPs are fairly private, a curtain covers the entry. Inside there is a leather (faux?) loveseat, table, trash can (don't look inside LOL) , and napkins (hmmmm). Oh they also have a mirrored wall, which can be fun to see what she's doing to you from different angles. I have seen them in front and on the side, never been in one without the mirror wall, but I spose there may be some without it.

Savvy123
02-08-12, 08:53
Thanks for the PMs on Dani, very informative, its great how much info is out there between all of us and how much can be learned by sharing a little bit.

Since that one worked out, I am wondering if anyone has had experience with Angel on the night shift. Tight young spinner body with long dark hair and a tat of some flower on her hip. Specifically interested in extras and costs.

Thanks again in advance!

WillyWonka082
02-08-12, 09:54
I hit sc yesterday during the day around 1:30. $7 to valet, $0 cover, $7. 50 soda ($2 tip) , $20 bouncer tax, $6 dancers tip, $ Kendra BBBJ fee. Out the door under $145. There didn't seem to be too many girls working until it hit 2:00 and they had all the girls parade on main stage, went from 6-7 girls visible to 18-19, 1/3 black 2/3 white. Some of the girls were hit (3-4) and had no business dancing, at least there (Bogarts-maybe?) ; second tier of girls (6-7) were either a little chunky or a tad over-aged; then the quality bumped up (7. 5-8. 5) ; two of the girls were solid 9's but I didn't catch their names. So back to the action, after sitting around observing for 20 mins. Kendra stopped by and the "do you get dances" chat started, I quickly responded with "uhm, well sometimes, just depends on cost" "she said $25 per song or $ for BJ". We agreed to price and bam she was called to stage for set, while she danced another girl (1 of the 9's) stopped by and offered FS / BJ for same $ and I agreed then she noticed Kendra's empty glass on table next to mine and said see her after I was done with that dance. I didn't even notice she claimed me, hate that bullshit move but it worked. Her set ends- So off to the VIP which I think is pretty nice, she gives 1. 5 song warm up dance and proceeds to take it out and just goes to town for 3 straight songs before coming up for air. Her technique was pretty good but changed style to often for me to get off quickly (good for me, bad for her). There was lots of fiv and a little bls, at one point she asked me to do the work while she rubbed one out for herself. Overall I'd give her 7. 5 looks, just a little too skinny and 8 on service.

Member #4934
02-08-12, 12:30
Angelique is a real pro, and I have to agree, she has a tight twat. I really love how she is always prepared and cleans you up afterward. I also love her quote,"You have to enjoy what you do!" I particularly like her cause she fits the young MILF profile to a T.


Stopped in this afternoon after a few years of no hobby related activity. Only a couple of guys and a hanful of dancers, Deanna was there, a short blonde with long hair, a thin hot black girl and a taller brunette with a great rack a great blue eyes. I got a dance from Angelique, said she has been there a few years and usually soes not worrk on Sat.

She is a shorter brunette a little baby fat and wears glasses. I am a sucker for girls with glasses, so I went back with her. Quoted 2 for full service ended at 1. 4, I know I probably could have got it lower but was thinking with wrong head. Great BJ and super tight FS. She was a little loud and got soaking wet. Brought wet naps with her and disposed of cover and did a great clean up job on me. Not one pig in the place so I did enjoy myself.

Bigdikdanaler
02-08-12, 14:10
Thanks for the PMs on Dani, very informative, its great how much info is out there between all of us and how much can be learned by sharing a little bit.

Since that one worked out, I am wondering if anyone has had experience with Angel on the night shift. Tight young spinner body with long dark hair and a tat of some flower on her hip. Specifically interested in extras and costs.

Thanks again in advance!I like her a lot but she won't do extras, great lap dances old school style, I have her number but have not called her

Oneknot
02-08-12, 15:44
Has anyone ever been to thunderbolt? I remember vaguely from posts about a year ago people were saying that the guy had a Portfolio of dancers to choose from. What are your experiences? I'm Interested in checking this place out and would like to get a good idea of what I'm walking into.

Cnote313
02-08-12, 18:12
Thunderbolt?

Well, before your post OneKnot, I'd never heard of the place. So naturally my "horn (s)" goes up and my hunger for intel grows. I find an address, a number and a link to a Metro Times article. The link won't work on my phone so I said screw it and call the. What the hey! A "gentleman" answers "Hello,". (Hmmm, where's the greeting "Thunderbolt, Hello, may I help you?"). I tell him I'm trying to reach "Thunderbolt". Well the convo begins. Basically, the maverick of a gentleman has opened a strip club in his residence. He needs an HOURs notice to get a dancer for you.

I told him I was interested in coming through Saturday aftrenoon. He said sure just give him a ring first. It sounds like most (all) his dancers are black. You just tell him your preference. He kept mentioning things are "slow" right now (Christmas. Valentines Day). He was a little hard to understand but I guess he has pics of his available dancers. Oh yeah the cover is $20 and no booze is served. I want to check it out for sure. I hoping this is a HIGH mileage "establishment". Shoot, sounds like he would "open" just for me if I call ahead and tell him what dancer I want. Hey if its all that I could do that once a week and be happy!


Has anyone ever been to thunderbolt? I remember vaguely from posts about a year ago people were saying that the guy had a Portfolio of dancers to choose from. What are your experiences? I'm Interested in checking this place out and would like to get a good idea of what I'm walking into.

SteelHorseRide
02-08-12, 18:33
http://www2.metrotimes.com/culture/story.asp?id=14918

Thunderbolt doesn't need a cabaret license like other Detroit strip clubs must have. The city ordinance regulating other places doesn't apply, because it's not a bar serving liquor or food, but rather a private arrangement in a private home. To him it's like having a strip-o-gram sent to your own house.

"As far as I'm concerned," Thunderbolt says,"when a guy calls up to come here, he's my 'friend. '" And though the club is dry, people can still drink."If they want to party and bring their own party favors, that's OK," he says.

There's absolutely no prostitution allowed. Thunderbolt stays in the room the whole time, watching. He takes 10 percent of the girls' earnings for his services.

Oneknot
02-08-12, 18:46
I'm going to check this place out. Heck who know what the operation will be like. I did a little search on the web and several reporters have been there. Even a crew from MTV! Must be something to experience I guess.

Cnote313
02-08-12, 20:35
http://www2.metrotimes.com/culture/story.asp?id=14918

There's absolutely no HOEstitution allowed. Thunderbolt stays in the room the whole time, watching. He takes 10 percent of the girls' earnings for his services.Hmm, well at least you can get a dance without the g-string.

I wonder if he dims the lights at least.

Hmmm, maybe TAKEOUT is available. YMMV. I guess its worth at least 1 visit.

I'm going to try this weekend and REPORT back.
Good Luck, ONeknot. I look forward to your report. When are you going? Be sure to check out the book of polaroids

John3030
02-08-12, 20:45
I'm going to check this place out. Heck who know what the operation will be like. I did a little search on the web and several reporters have been there. Even a crew from MTV! Must be something to experience I guess.I am looking forward to a review. It is not very practical for me in Ann arbor, but it is certainly intriguing. The stripper in the article, Summer, looked pretty good to me.

Mystery Date
02-09-12, 00:38
I drove by once and it looked like every other house on the street. No sign of anything. I wasn't about to go knock on the door though.You have to call first and let him know you're coming by.

Guy is hilarious.

Det313
02-09-12, 05:48
I called him before a year or two ago. After reading the metro times article. I thought it was pricey for no FS. Can't wait to hear this report of how it goes.

Member #4199
02-09-12, 10:23
I called him before a year or two ago. After reading the metro times article. I thought it was pricey for no FS. Can't wait to hear this report of how it goes.Considering we're all mongers of one sort or another and all looking for the same thing, it seems like it would be a complete waste of time and money to me.

From everything mentioned already it appears that Mr Thunderbolts operation is akin to hiring a strip o gram or a lame stripper at a lame bachelor party.

Not my thing. I'm looking for a certain milage out of these encounters.

Hell I'd rather get a cheap notell, turn on the radio, call a BP girl and have my own private club. Fuck the middle man.

You'd do yourself a favor to look up motorcity dolls and go there instead if they're still operating their little "club" in the house that was over near the triangle area. Fenkel west of telegraph area. The Blonde chick that runs it used to be stripper at flight club years ago. Back in the day she did a lot of photography / modeling also with another little brunette stripper that was in playboy on line and a lot of other stuff.

Big Puff Daddy
02-09-12, 20:08
Considering we're all mongers of one sort or another and all looking for the same thing, it seems like it would be a complete waste of time and money to me.

From everything mentioned already it appears that Mr Thunderbolts operation is akin to hiring a strip o gram or a lame stripper at a lame bachelor party.

Not my thing. I'm looking for a certain milage out of these encounters.

Hell I'd rather get a cheap notell, turn on the radio, call a BP girl and have my own private club. Fuck the middle man.

You'd do yourself a favor to look up motorcity dolls and go there instead if they're still operating their little "club" in the house that was over near the triangle area. Fenkel west of telegraph area. The Blonde chick that runs it used to be stripper at flight club years ago. Back in the day she did a lot of photography / modeling also with another little brunette stripper that was in playboy on line and a lot of other stuff.Haaa, the blonde who runs Motor City Dolls was over to my house with another girl for private dances maybe 6 years or more ago. No extras went on, just dances. Name is Kelly Jean. She was one of the WRIF webgirls too. And she did internet hard core porn. I think the brunette you speak of was at a bachelor party I attended that got girls from MCD. She was a cutie. When I first came into my friends house that held the party I thought the brunette girl was one of his friends girlfriends. When I found out she was the entertainment I was pleasantly surprised.

Big Puff Daddy
02-09-12, 20:32
Haaa, the blonde who runs Motor City Dolls was over to my house with another girl for private dances maybe 6 years or more ago. No extras went on, just dances. Name is Kelly Jean. She was one of the WRIF webgirls too. And she did internet hard core porn. I think the brunette you speak of was at a bachelor party I attended that got girls from MCD. She was a cutie. When I first came into my friends house that held the party I thought the brunette girl was one of his friends girlfriends. When I found out she was the entertainment I was pleasantly surprised.Http://www.motorcitydolls.net/

Click on the link, Kelly Jean is the girl in the middle and the girl on the left is the brunette who was at the bachelor party I attended. She went on to do a lot of nude modeling from what I remember. The girl on the right in the picture used to dance at Landing Strip under the name Riley. She has some fantastic real the cup or better titties.

Dxf289
02-09-12, 22:39
This site must have a lot of lurkers. Wet Barbie has had guys coming in for a week asking for her. The manager was like "WTF? Out of nowhere guys are coming in and specifically asking for her". I didn't get a chance to test her out, I was busy with a girl there that took care of me well the first time I was ever there. The management does not promote this activity. They are actively trying to get rid of the girls who do extras. At least that is what the main man told me.I wasn't trying to get her fired or banned, just trying to drum up more money for her. She was really cool to me. Makes you think twice about sharing info now.

Member #4199
02-10-12, 01:24
Http://www.motorcitydolls.net/

Click on the link, Kelly Jean is the girl in the middle and the girl on the left is the brunette who was at the bachelor party I attended. She went on to do a lot of nude modeling from what I remember. The girl on the right in the picture used to dance at Landing Strip under the name Riley. She has some fantastic real the cup or better titties.Yea Kelly Jean. Couldn't think of her name. The brunette I'm talking about split ways with KJ a long long time ago. I knew these chicks when they were just getting started 10, 12, or more years ago. The brunette (I'll remember the name eventually) had big fake titties like KJ. There's a couple of others from the same time period that I still see posting online from time to to time. A few were on MASP also.

Member #4199
02-10-12, 10:08
I wasn't trying to get her fired or banned, just trying to drum up more money for her. She was really cool to me. Makes you think twice about sharing info now.Seriously some people have no class what so ever. You take the intel so that when you're sitting there in the club and the specific girl mentioned does come along you know what the inside deal is. Some of these assholes would beat a path to her parents door too.

TiklPkl
02-10-12, 18:15
So after RTFF. I decided to test my new found skills at H8N today. Went in around lunch time for the day shift.

Not too many girls and the pickings were slim. Only about 4 to 6 working. Had a brunette come up with small bees implant suffering from noassatall. Anorexic really. Her name was diamond, we chatted a bit and then she wants a dance and of course I ask what's on the menu. She wanted $$ and like I was taught here I laughed. No way. So I tried to negotiate from. 6 and. 8 and still no bites so she quickly scrammed. Was about to bail when I saw a younger looking blonde walk in so I waited.

Finally the blonde makes it out gets on the stage, find out her name is Heidi. She was the only one I'd probably want to have FS with from the selection. I tip her while she danced to let her know I was interested and she comes over after her set. We chat a little bit and she asks if I want a dance. I ask it depends on what type of dance it is. She says we can talk in VIP so off we went, paid for the wristband and I picked the corner booth. Ordered FS, wanted $$ I countered with. 8 and wanted $.5 I then said $ and she says she doesn't know anyone there doing it for that. So then I ordered BJ for. 4 and she wanted $.2 and countered with. 6 and still no go. So only thing on menu left was HJ and agreed for. 4 which was below average but she BBJ's for a couple times real quick to get something to work with and it does nothing but frustrate me. Like a tease. She goes back to HJ and by this time I'm playing with the bee's, took the kitty for a litte walk and before you know it, time runs out. No HE! I tried to order carryout but she says she doesn't do that.

I'm new to this board but I'm a long time hobbyist of the SW league and although I've dabbled with the SC league I only played with a couple clubs but never to the level that I've come to learn after RTFF. Had I known all of this was available I would've "turned pro" a lot sooner. I'm looking to play even more now. Thanks guys

Member #4812
02-10-12, 23:11
Visited H8S for the first time in a long time (last time I was there, they didn't have the booths with curtains). In any event, the girls were a mixed bag. More bad than good. But I had a target in mind, and she approached me right before she was supposed to go onstage, so I knew I had some negotiating power. Got a good deal on FS in the back, and the booths make it a great time back there. All in all, a good visit.

Big Puff Daddy
02-10-12, 23:21
I've never been to FC days, so I cut out of work a little early and hit up the FC. Didn't see much that caught my eye except maybe 2 girls. One's name was Danielle. Very petite brunette, probably weighed 95 pounds and a little under 5 feet tall, cute face. Also, Desiree, who had nice natural tits and overall nice body. Face good but not spectacular. Then there are girls there who looked to be pushing 50. One tried to corner me like a wild cougar! Any experience with the above 2 girls? Do they do extras and how much. Didn't get a chance to talk to them as they were tied up. PM me with details.

Member #4199
02-11-12, 02:32
Dude repeated post are not necessary. You're what's known as a regular member. Your post are held in limbo until they're approved. When you reach senior status and or your posting abilities have been accepted by management, your post will no longer be held for prior approval. Read the TOS / Guidelines / FAQ's / AND RTFF!

With that said; break their union! If all of you guys would start low balling these girls, if even a little, they'd have to come down. 1.0, .8 or. 6 is better than ZERO. If any girl had ever wanted. 4 for a hand job I would have laughed in her face and told her; I know I can jack it off better myself. If I'm paying someone is going to either suck it or fuck. I don't pay for jerk offs. It's also why I don't go to MP's either.

Bunker Buster
02-11-12, 09:32
This is what I meant about this site being 100% open forum, you don't even need to register to see the post. So the first that happens is some ass hole lurker fucks up a good thing.And just like in the real world, the mouthiest agitators who claim to speak for the 99% demand more handouts, and insist that those at the top didn't really work hard to get there.

Just wait until the freeloading lurkers start "Occupy USASG."

JoesParty
02-11-12, 12:57
So after RTFF. I decided to test my new found skills at H8N today. Went in around lunch time for the day shift.

Not too many girls and the pickings were slim. Only about 4 to 6 working. Had a brunette come up with small bees implant suffering from noassatall. Anorexic really. Her name was diamond, we chatted a bit and then she wants a dance and of course I ask what's on the menu. She wanted $$ and like I was taught here I laughed. No way. So I tried to negotiate from. 6 and. 8 and still no bites so she quickly scrammed. Was about to bail when I saw a younger looking blonde walk in so I waited.

Finally the blonde makes it out gets on the stage, find out her name is Heidi. She was the only one I'd probably want to have FS with from the selection. I tip her while she danced to let her know I was interested and she comes over after her set. We chat a little bit and she asks if I want a dance. I ask it depends on what type of dance it is. She says we can talk in VIP so off we went, paid for the wristband and I picked the corner booth. Ordered FS, wanted $$ I countered with. 8 and wanted $.5 I then said $ and she says she doesn't know anyone there doing it for that. So then I ordered BJ for. 4 and she wanted $.2 and countered with. 6 and still no go. So only thing on menu left was HJ and agreed for. 4 which was below average but she BBJ's for a couple times real quick to get something to work with and it does nothing but frustrate me. Like a tease. She goes back to HJ and by this time I'm playing with the bee's, took the kitty for a litte walk and before you know it, time runs out. No HE! I tried to order carryout but she says she doesn't do that.

I'm new to this board but I'm a long time hobbyist of the SW league and although I've dabbled with the SC league I only played with a couple clubs but never to the level that I've come to learn after RTFF. Had I known all of this was available I would've "turned pro" a lot sooner. I'm looking to play even more now.

Thanks guysYou admit you're new. I was new here, once-heck, I still am, compared to some members. You did your homework and still got burned, but that happens. But the lesson here is that you need to negotiate BEFORE you go to the VIP. Once you're back there, the balance of power shifts to her. You've already paid the entry fee / bouncer fee / etc, she's got your dick in her hand, and you're starting to think with the wrong head. Sorry, but at that point, it's advantage: dancer.

You have to be patient. If she won't negotiate at your table, be polite but firm and refuse to budge. She'll either agree to your terms, leave and then come back and try again, or leave for good. If she leaves for good, you know you dodged a bullet.

This is not foolproof; I still spend more than I want sometimes. But it takes discipline. Think of it (seriously) like negotiating for anything else: a car, a house, etc. You always want to negotiate on your terms.

Namb1
02-11-12, 13:44
I'm not sure what this place is maybe one of you guys will know, but lets just say I got added to a mass text from someone I don't really know. Here's what the text says:

"Freaky Fridays Fri Feb 17 at (name and address of place). Bday celebration. Ass. Ass, hot babes, swallow the banana, big ass contest, rock the pole"

It said it was a bar but I looked it up on google maps and it was a regular business. If anyone wants the address thats a regular member I will hook them up but I didn't want to post it.

Oneknot
02-11-12, 18:04
Watch out for diamond. This dumb ***** tried to play me for more than 300. Saying that her dances were $40 when we were all said and done. Didn't even have extras. Now I remember why I always avoid this place. I can't believe this worthless coke working girl was going to try and pull the wool over my eyes like that.

BigDawg007
02-12-12, 02:27
$ for F. S. Should be the norm. Please do not overpay. 8/10 times I have gotten it for $. These girls talk to each other please don't ruin it for everyone. Trust me they will agree, just stick with it.

Oneknot
02-12-12, 18:18
What did she look like?Skinny tall brunette with a pair of bolt ons

Dxf289
02-13-12, 00:16
I'm not sure what this place is maybe one of you guys will know, but lets just say I got added to a mass text from someone I don't really know. Here's what the text says:

"Freaky Fridays Fri Feb 17 at (name and address of place). Bday celebration. Ass. Ass, hot babes, swallow the banana, big ass contest, rock the pole"

It said it was a bar but I looked it up on google maps and it was a regular business. If anyone wants the address thats a regular member I will hook them up but I didn't want to post it.Have been in the rise. No liquor license necessary. Fuckin is the order of the day at "bachelor parties." at a few I threw, I even invited LEO that I knew to keep the heat away. I do suggest that you only go to parties where you know someone, as these parties are often stuck up with no one reporting them due to all the illegal activity.

TiklPkl
02-13-12, 12:52
Skinny tall brunette with a pair of bolt onsExactly. Hair just past the shoulders on that day. Didn't get an age but she looks older than what she actually is. I'm guessing 30's. Her face is starting to show a lot of mileage, maybe from using the powder as somebody said.

TiklPkl
02-14-12, 13:19
I'm looking for a couple of dancers by the names of "Deja" and "Lexus"? Both danced at the Grind before all the name changes (Bouzuki II / Cobras). Deja is about 5'5 give or take an inch, brown skin, thick. Maybe buck fifty, real cute in the face, real personable and knows how to work the pole on stage as she always got a tip from me. Never did any extras with her, just straight up dances. The other is Lexus, about 5'2-5'4, dark brown, 'flat stomach with a big ole booty' as somebody said about girls who danced here. She was cool, laid back type and last I heard she was at All Stars (shortly before it closed) but I dared not step foot in that place. Even though it's reopened, I'm still not willing to go in there to see, at least solo. Both were my ATF's from the Grind and I would love to 'reunite' and test the waters if they're still in the game.

Big Puff Daddy
02-15-12, 00:21
I'm looking for a couple of dancers by the names of "Deja" and "Lexus"? Both danced at the Grind before all the name changes (Bouzuki II / Cobras). Deja is about 5'5 give or take an inch, brown skin, thick. Maybe buck fifty, real cute in the face, real personable and knows how to work the pole on stage as she always got a tip from me. Never did any extras with her, just straight up dances. The other is Lexus, about 5'2-5'4, dark brown, 'flat stomach with a big ole booty' as somebody said about girls who danced here. She was cool, laid back type and last I heard she was at All Stars (shortly before it closed) but I dared not step foot in that place. Even though it's reopened, I'm still not willing to go in there to see, at least solo. Both were my ATF's from the Grind and I would love to 'reunite' and test the waters if they're still in the game.Speaking of All Stars, I went there once by myself about maybe 12 years ago. I knew it was a black club. I was the only white guy in the club. I'm as white as they come too. The place was packed. All the dancers were black and not one of them came up to my table. Everyone in the bar just stared at me. I guess they thought I was undercover or something. Even my waitress ignored me. I didn't feel unsafe at all, but I was disappointed I was basically ignored.

AllRight999
02-16-12, 01:05
$ for F. S. Should be the norm. Please do not overpay. 8/10 times I have gotten it for $. These girls talk to each other please don't ruin it for everyone. Trust me they will agree, just stick with it.40 last week at H8S!

I agree, they ask too much for not much fun.

Sparky52
02-16-12, 08:36
Coming to town Friday night. Read a lot about BT's, but not so much about HC. Which is my best bet for a good time? Any names to look up?

Truck Engineer
02-16-12, 17:37
Coming to town Friday night. Read a lot about BT's, but not so much about HC. Which is my best bet for a good time? Any names to look up?You will get hustled at the HC. Nice VIP but not worth the trip.

Jooop
02-17-12, 04:10
I'm looking for a couple of dancers by the names of "Deja" and "Lexus"? Both danced at the Grind before all the name changes (Bouzuki II / Cobras). Deja is about 5'5 give or take an inch, brown skin, thick. Maybe buck fifty, real cute in the face, real personable and knows how to work the pole on stage as she always got a tip from me. Never did any extras with her, just straight up dances. The other is Lexus, about 5'2-5'4, dark brown, 'flat stomach with a big ole booty' as somebody said about girls who danced here. She was cool, laid back type and last I heard she was at All Stars (shortly before it closed) but I dared not step foot in that place. Even though it's reopened, I'm still not willing to go in there to see, at least solo. Both were my ATF's from the Grind and I would love to 'reunite' and test the waters if they're still in the game.Not sure if its the same Deja but she work at Tycoons pretty as hell but had a Arab girl she hung with.

Dxf289
02-17-12, 09:45
So I went to Sunset Strip during day shift. At first I though damn, I made a mistake. But then this chick built like brick shithouse (this is VERY good thing) hit the stage. There were only about three other guys there and two of them were geriatric. After her time on stage we made eye contact, but she walked to the bar. I shrugged and started watching the next girl. The first girl walked over and said,"I thought you wanted VIP treatment?" I asked what did that entail she said $150 FS. I thought what the hell. We up and gave an incredible BJ. She told me she loved it from behind with her breast squeezed. She got into it and even stuffed her top in her mouth to muffle the noise. I have popped that hard in a SC in a long time. So as not to repeat past mistakes, I'll only share her name with those who inbox me.

Dxf289
02-17-12, 11:56
So I went to Sunset Strip during day shift. At first I though damn, I made a mistake. But then this chick built like brick shithouse (this is VERY good thing) hit the stage. There were only about three other guys there and two of them were geriatric. After her time on stage we made eye contact, but she walked to the bar. I shrugged and started watching the next girl. The first girl walked over and said,"I thought you wanted VIP treatment?" I asked what did that entail she said $150 FS. I thought what the hell. We up and gave an incredible BJ. She told me she loved it from behind with her breast squeezed. She got into it and even stuffed her top in her mouth to muffle the noise. I have popped that hard in a SC in a long time. So as not to repeat past mistakes, I'll only share her name with those who inbox me.Check out the club. She has a birthday party scheduled for 3/3/12 from 12 pm to 7 pm.

TiklPkl
02-17-12, 12:27
Deja.pretty as hell.That sounds like her. A trip to Tycoons is in order. Thanks Joop.

Electronman
02-17-12, 14:11
Coming to town Friday night. Read a lot about BT's, but not so much about HC. Which is my best bet for a good time? Any names to look up?It depends on your priorities.

VIP facilities: HC by a long shot.

Quality of Dancers: For afternoon shifts- BT's over HC (but neither as good as Penthouse or Flight Club). For evening shift- I have less experience with the night shift but I'd probably rate HC slightly ahead of BT's but both can be highly variable across days of the week. Maybe others can provide more detail on the night shift talent.

Costs and value: Both require valet parking, both have admission charges at night and both have overpriced drinks. When it comes to lap dance fun, I'd give BT's the advantage.

One suggestion-start at HC and reserve enough time and $ for a trip to BT's if HC does not work out. The drive from HC to BT's is about 10 minutes. Hint: in either place, do your negotiating before heading to the VIP where your judgment may be impaired by the diversion of blood flow away from your brain.

Ball Park
02-17-12, 16:54
Okay, I know this isn't the place for this, but the PA USG is dead, I obviously LOVE it in Detroit, but I'm heading east near Turtlepoint, PA and wonder if any of you "connoisseurs" have been out there to give the scoop on Busty Heart's Place in Turtlepoint, or any of those BYOB strip clubs they have in the PA boonies. I mean, can you have what they call "Bed Dances" and not be FS? Same old story - may TOFTT anyway but would rather be sure.

LPboy
02-17-12, 17:22
Recently met bianca at h8s, would like to do take out, anyone have feedback about her, seems to be really enthusiastic and uninhibited.

TiklPkl
02-17-12, 18:34
So I went to Sunset Strip during day shift. At first I though damn, I made a mistake. But then this chick built like brick shithouse (this is VERY good thing) hit the stage.This is the other club that I used to frequent. Had an ATF there that was also a brick house, mixed, about 5'5, athletic build, sees maybe dees, and very very smart. I could easily have seen her in a corporate board room. I haven't seen any one do the tricks and things she used to do on a pole. Not many have her build or strength. I want to say her name started with a 'V' but I'm not sure. She was there during days and quite frankly I'd be shocked if she was still there but SS strip has always been good for a looker or two (7+).

Mw Jrp
02-17-12, 18:48
Okay, I know this isn't the place for this, but the PA USG is dead, I obviously LOVE it in Detroit, but I'm heading east near Turtlepoint, PA and wonder if any of you "connoisseurs" have been out there to give the scoop on Busty Heart's Place in Turtlepoint, or any of those BYOB strip clubs they have in the PA boonies. I mean, can you have what they call "Bed Dances" and not be FS? Same old story - may TOFTT anyway but would rather be sure.I had them 3-4 years ago in Greenville, Pa, north of I-80 just east of Ohio border (can't remember name of club) and the girl stripped to her birthday suit. I wore thin pants and she rode me to a nice nut; actually had 3 or 4 different hotties ride me successfully over the course of a year. After that I found USASG, and a means for a nut at half the price, and real full service. I assume a bed dance is a lay down and have the cuttie ride your cock, instead of a lap dance where you slouch in a chair.

I would do it all again, but have lower priced H&H options. MW

Big Puff Daddy
02-17-12, 20:36
It depends on your priorities.

VIP facilities: HC by a long shot.

Quality of Dancers: For afternoon shifts- BT's over HC (but neither as good as Penthouse or Flight Club). For evening shift- I have less experience with the night shift but I'd probably rate HC slightly ahead of BT's but both can be highly variable across days of the week. Maybe others can provide more detail on the night shift talent.

Costs and value: Both require valet parking, both have admission charges at night and both have overpriced drinks. When it comes to lap dance fun, I'd give BT's the advantage.

One suggestion-start at HC and reserve enough time and $ for a trip to BT's if HC does not work out. The drive from HC to BT's is about 10 minutes. Hint: in either place, do your negotiating before heading to the VIP where your judgment may be impaired by the diversion of blood flow away from your brain.Just a tip for you guys, the Hustler Clubs own website has Free cover charge coupons you can print out. Saves you $10. I printed out a bunch and just put one at a time in my wallet. As for comparing BT's to HC on nights, you will spend less on average for extra dances at BTs. The girls charge less on average. The VIP rooms at HC though are the best I've been to in Detroit area as far as amenities. I mean some have private bathrooms, stripper poles, closed circuit TV to watch the stage show, huge couches. Rooms from $5-$10. BT charges $20 and the room size varies. If only small ones are left at BT's or you don't know that the size can vary then you could end up in a tiny space. I've got BJ for as little as. 50 at BT and FS for as little as $. I was lucky enough to get FS at HC for $ once but other than that they want $.50 to $$$$$, usually $$-$$.50. Top I've paid there at HC for FS is $$.50, top I've paid at BTs is $.50. The quality of the girls varies. Check out both, they aren't too far apart and it won't cost any extra with free cover coupon.

P. S. I get a chuckle out of you guys talking about valet charges and drink prices. I mean gheez, you are probably paying $ to $$ for dances plus a VIP charge for the room and in the grand scheme of things what does a valet charge really mean. BT is $7 valet I think and HC is $3. If that is going to make a difference then you might as well stick to SW.

Oneknot
02-18-12, 20:38
Ok first time to the Coliseum. I don't know why you guys have been keeping this place a secret, or at least. Not posting about it much. Wow great food and hot chicks. I'm truly impressed and will put this place down on my ATF list. Had a dance with a gorgeous mixed girl and she was extremely enthusiastic. Went for just a BJ, and she goes "Eh it's the end of my shift." pulls out a rubber and hops on full service. She had an I tense oh shiat I'm cumming orgasm with body sPasms. Awesome awesome awesome.

Also, does anyone have any recent intel on tycoons or players? I'd like to know if they are worth trying out.

BenjaminSkully
02-18-12, 20:57
Ok first time to the Coliseum. I don't know why you guys have been keeping this place a secret, or at least. Not posting about it much. Wow great food and hot chicks. I'm truly impressed and will put this place down on my ATF list. Had a dance with a gorgeous mixed girl and she was extremely enthusiastic. Went for just a BJ, and she goes "Eh it's the end of my shift." pulls out a rubber and hops on full service. She had an I tense oh shiat I'm cumming orgasm with body sPasms. Awesome awesome awesome.

Also, does anyone have any recent intel on tycoons or players? I'd like to know if they are worth trying out.Damage breakdown?

Big Puff Daddy
02-18-12, 22:05
Ok first time to the Coliseum. I don't know why you guys have been keeping this place a secret, or at least. Not posting about it much. Wow great food and hot chicks. I'm truly impressed and will put this place down on my ATF list. Had a dance with a gorgeous mixed girl and she was extremely enthusiastic. Went for just a BJ, and she goes "Eh it's the end of my shift." pulls out a rubber and hops on full service. She had an I tense oh shiat I'm cumming orgasm with body sPasms. Awesome awesome awesome.

Also, does anyone have any recent intel on tycoons or players? I'd like to know if they are worth trying out.I love mixed girls. Do you remember her name? If you don't want to post it then PM me with it.

Jooop
02-19-12, 05:26
Ok first time to the Coliseum. I don't know why you guys have been keeping this place a secret, or at least. Not posting about it much. Wow great food and hot chicks. I'm truly impressed and will put this place down on my ATF list. Had a dance with a gorgeous mixed girl and she was extremely enthusiastic. Went for just a BJ, and she goes "Eh it's the end of my shift." pulls out a rubber and hops on full service. She had an I tense oh shiat I'm cumming orgasm with body sPasms. Awesome awesome awesome.

Also, does anyone have any recent intel on tycoons or players? I'd like to know if they are worth trying out.Players was still closed Thursday when I went there and Tycoons same o you can get help in the VIP just get the right chick.

Dxf289
02-19-12, 19:18
So I went to Sunset Strip during day shift. At first I though damn, I made a mistake. But then this chick built like brick shithouse (this is VERY good thing) hit the stage. There were only about three other guys there and two of them were geriatric. After her time on stage we made eye contact, but she walked to the bar. I shrugged and started watching the next girl. The first girl walked over and said,"I thought you wanted VIP treatment?" I asked what did that entail she said $150 FS. I thought what the hell. We up and gave an incredible BJ. She told me she loved it from behind with her breast squeezed. She got into it and even stuffed her top in her mouth to muffle the noise. I have popped that hard in a SC in a long time. So as not to repeat past mistakes, I'll only share her name with those who inbox me.She's now working day and night and drops her price to $100 for second visits. I'll let why'all know about thirds, LOL!

Cnote313
02-20-12, 00:14
Hey OneKnot,

Glad you had a good time. I haven't been to Coli but I will definitely put it on my to be done list, LOL.

How about some more details though, shift, girls description (or better yet a stage name)? I would love to catch her at the end of her shift. On the end of my shaft.

LOL, sorry couldn't resist.


Ok first time to the Cliseum. I don't know why you guys have been keeping this place a secret, or at least. Not posting about it much. Wow great food and hot chicks. I'm truly impressed and will put this place down on my ATF list. Had a dance with a gorgeous mixed girl and she was extremely enthusiastic. Went for just a BJ, and she goes "Eh it's the end of my shift." pulls out a rubber and hops on full service. She had an I tense oh shiat I'm cumming orgasm with body sPasms. Awesome awesome awesome.

Also, does anyone have any recent intel on tycoons or players? I'd like to know if they are worth trying out.

Dxf289
02-20-12, 00:42
I don't know what the hell is going on at Sunset tonite, but they're doing this thing called "Blackout" where they turn the lights out for 5 minutes. When the lights come back on, the girls are racing to get to VIP, LOL. They're making sells on penlights and it's off the hook in here.

Member #4934
02-20-12, 12:07
I don't know what the hell is going on at Sunset tonite, but they're doing this thing called "Blackout" where they turn the lights out for 5 minutes. When the lights come back on, the girls are racing to get to VIP, LOL. They're making sells on penlights and it's off the hook in here.Can you elaborate on this at all? Seems like they girls would be racing to VIP when the lights go off, rather than on.

Oneknot
02-20-12, 12:07
I think her name was crystal. End of day shift. The girl sounded and acted like she'd had a decent education. Truly a pleasure to deal with.

Member #4934
02-20-12, 12:23
Visited last Friday just after noon. *

No cover, $7 valet, normal drinks prices, aside from the specials. *Everything from previous reviews is still accurate. *This weekend was a Mardi Gras theme, and there were lots of drink and food specials. I met with two dancers, and had big fun with both. I'm not sure about the so-called remodel, but maybe they expanded the VIP area a little? It seems like there is a side wing that wasn't there before. *

I was told there were 25 girls working, though I didn't count them all. *I would say the breakdown was: 2-3 girls rated at a 9, 5-6 rated 8, about 10 in the 6-7 range, with the rest below that. I'm always looking for 8s. Hot enough that I likely wouldn't score on the street, but not so hot that they over charge, and don't fulfill. *

Most of the girls were in their 20s, but 5-6 were clearly in their 30s, and at least 2 were near 40. *These two both were blond with big, obvious hair extensions. One had big bolt-ons. Maybe three other girls had bolt-ons. *

Two Black girls, one a spinner, the other thick. Three other girls appeared multiracial, one looked to have Asian in her (the eyes). Two obvious Latinas, the rest were White. *

I got dances from two different hotties (a blonde 7, and a Latina 8) , who were extra fun. *Each negotiated hard for more money, but I was able to get $100 plus tip for everything I wanted, which was everything except a trip to Greece! *Of course I had to pay the $20 bouncer tax twice. *

Don't pass this one by, guys. BT's Executive Lounge is the way to go. *

Dxf289
02-20-12, 14:12
Can you elaborate on this at all? Seems like they girls would be racing to VIP when the lights go off, rather than on.There are a lot of "previews" and "negotiations" when the light go out and it's first cum (pun intended) first served for VIP.

Dxf289
02-20-12, 14:14
Can you elaborate on this at all? Seems like they girls would be racing to VIP when the lights go off, rather than on.There are no lights in the VIP in this club. Take a pen light or cellphone flashlight.

Jooop
02-20-12, 16:33
Stop in Players and this place is beautiful. Three dance places looks like a mdown stairs and maybe a upstairs VIP. Girls have a down stairs dressing room. A od shape o bar. And all booths. Nice place nobody I talk to new when its open talk to one guy he thougfht it was open Dumb ass.

Sobe69
02-20-12, 17:44
Anyone know anything about this blond bombshell? She is a dancer at the landing Strip or any info on the club? Have not been there before but she might be good enough reason to make the trip!

http://www.saintjohnmassages.com/index.html

Member #4934
02-21-12, 11:34
There are a lot of "previews" and "negotiations" when the light go out and it's first cum (pun intended) first served for VIP.Thanks for the followup, it sounds like fun!

Oregon2020
02-23-12, 07:22
Stopped in at H8S on the way to DTW and for the first time ever I was disappointed. Very few girls working-though one was extremely good looking, seemed to be all of 20 years old and cute. The moment I sat down, Nikki approached and asked if I wanted to go back to the VIP. I mean, she said "Hi, Let's go." I said I wanted to finish my beer and she said,"Right. Ok. So, let's go." Three times. Of course, I went back and it was dull as pickles and she high-tailed it out of the room so quickly-throwing the curtain open and leaving it open-that I hardly had time to say goodbye. Sat and finished my beer and then took off. The whole day started weird when I asked if Angelique was there and the guy sort of got mean and said "Lots of pretty girls here, dude."

Gwailo
02-23-12, 11:52
Stopped in at H8S on the way to DTW and for the first time ever I was disappointed. Very few girls working-though one was extremely good looking, seemed to be all of 20 years old and cute. The moment I sat down, Nikki approached and asked if I wanted to go back to the VIP. I mean, she said "Hi, Let's go." I said I wanted to finish my beer and she said,"Right. Ok. So, let's go." Three times. Of course, I went back and it was dull as pickles and she high-tailed it out of the room so quickly-throwing the curtain open and leaving it open-that I hardly had time to say goodbye. Sat and finished my beer and then took off. The whole day started weird when I asked if Angelique was there and the guy sort of got mean and said "Lots of pretty girls here, dude."I'm assuming that was Nicole. She was also my first H8S experience and I'll never go with her again. She opened with me about the same way, she took out her tits and said "come on I'm horny let's go".

I've been disappointed in the day shift at H8S probably the last 5-6 times I've went there. There are usually some good looking dancers on the night shift but it's harder for me to get up there at night.

Joshs81
02-23-12, 20:34
Hey guys, I was wondering if anyone had come across a cute, young, blond dancer that used to go by the name Hunter working at H8S. She used to work at HC about a year back, but I heard a rumor today that she had moved to H8S. If it's true I'm a bit surprised since when I met her she was new to dancing and was just doing lap dances. Obviously working there would be a huge step in the other direction. If you know her or saw her PM me, I'd love to see her again!

Thanks in advance!

NeverMarry
02-23-12, 21:01
I went the Silver Criket first. There were about 10 girls there, about half rail-thin and half with a few extra pounds. The only girls I was interested in getting a dance from were hanging out with regulars, so I finished my beer and went to Bogart's.

The scenery at Bogart's wasn't a lot better, but I did notice a relatively hot tanned blonde with D's talking to a regular. I tipped her when she went on stage and she asked if I would like some company. She stopped by after her set. We negotiated FS plus 2 normal dances for $ and. 60. The regular dances were a lot of fun with lots of groping and playing with the kitty. However, the CBJ was toothy and the FS was half HJ. Won't repeat.

Fun734
02-24-12, 11:58
Went to the Hustler Wednesday night. Place was dead. Hung out in the VIP bar upstairs. Cute blonde came over and chatted. Right away starts complaining about the lack of business and how she's broke. Even details about how she lives with her sister with her son. Huge turn on, right? Talked about how she doesn't really do extras, and would only do things like finger herself while you jerk yourself off. Then asks if I want a private dance. This may shock everyone but I passed. More of the same boring conversation before she moved on. It was so bad that the bartender called the manager over and bought us a drink, as she had a front row seat for the show and was appalled. Two beers and a free shot and we bailed.

Jooop
02-24-12, 16:58
Stop in around 1:00 PM sat at the bar three bar person sI at 5 min no response walk over to a table same thing finely had a girl ask me what I wanted told her Kiligans she comes back we don"t have that ok give Red Strip few minutes later no Red Strip so I walk. They had four wait person three bar persons andone get not get a beer in two minutes come on. Cost 6.00 for parking.

Horn Dog Too
02-24-12, 19:50
Had occasion to break my usual daytime routine and visited Hank South about 11pm on a weeknight. As I said before I like this joint and still do. Several attractive girls and a couple of chunky ones. A shade before 11 I got happy hour beer for 5bux. Not bad. Met a couple of nice ladies, Natalie a tall thin cutie was first to approach. Good conversation but wasn't ready for a dance. Then met Deseree. She captured me, my heart, boner and wallet. Nice job girl. She isn't for everyone, a 40's looking raven haired beauty with a Lauren Hutton gap in her teeth. Our conversation was so good I actually had to ask her about VIP services. The "new" rooms were tiny with no curtains, I guess they got put back by reading other reports. But we made a deal and I had a wonderful time with her. I'm batting 1000 with the MILF's at Hanks. Whoo Hoo Yay me!

Just a comment. IMHO this place could be so much better with a small investment in making the VIP's actually comfortable. If it were my joint I'd put in a nice padded bench, make them a tad bigger, red lighting in each booth. At 10 bux per wristband, the investment would be made back quickly.

Costanza
02-24-12, 23:58
Had occasion to break my usual daytime routine and visited Hank South about 11pm on a weeknight. As I said before I like this joint and still do. Several attractive girls and a couple of chunky ones. A shade before 11 I got happy hour beer for 5bux. Not bad. Met a couple of nice ladies, Natalie a tall thin cutie was first to approach. Good conversation but wasn't ready for a dance. Then met Deseree. She captured me, my heart, boner and wallet. Nice job girl. She isn't for everyone, a 40's looking raven haired beauty with a Lauren Hutton gap in her teeth. Our conversation was so good I actually had to ask her about VIP services. The "new" rooms were tiny with no curtains, I guess they got put back by reading other reports. But we made a deal and I had a wonderful time with her. I'm batting 1000 with the MILF's at Hanks. Whoo Hoo Yay me!

Just a comment. IMHO this place could be so much better with a small investment in making the VIP's actually comfortable. If it were my joint I'd put in a nice padded bench, make them a tad bigger, red lighting in each booth. At 10 bux per wristband, the investment would be made back quickly.Natalie? A cutie? Desiree? Raven haired beauty? Good conversation? Wow. I guess everyone does have different tastes.

Jooop
02-27-12, 05:20
Stop in around 1:00 PM sat at the bar three bar person 5 min no response walk over to a table same thing finely had a girl ask me what I wanted told her Kiligans she comes back we don"t have that ok give Red Strip few minutes later no Red Strip so I walk. They had four wait person three bar persons and one get not get a beer in two minutes come on. Cost 6.00 for parking.So I went coli.

Gwailo
02-27-12, 09:41
Natalie? A cutie? Desiree? Raven haired beauty? Good conversation? Wow. I guess everyone does have different tastes.Yeah, Desiree is over 50, she's nice to talk to but I'm not paying her for her services.

Bigboi47
02-27-12, 17:59
I didn't think that players was back open yet? I drive by Saturday around 2 pm and there was only a work van there. I also wonder why they got rid of the Cheerleaders name and went back to Players? Players is a much better name in my opinion.I drove past Saturday evening they were open it was about 9pm, it looks like Penthouse East from the outside. I read on another forum that Cheerleaders was already tradmarked and they could not use that name.

JoesParty
02-28-12, 09:48
Stopped by Flight Club on the way home from work yesterday, so I was able to take advantage of the day shift's no cover. Place was almost empty, and it was more or less the same crew working. Attractive girls, but a couple appeared pretty drunk. One asked if I wanted company, and when I told her I was waiting for someone else (which was true) , she was actually angry. I've never seen that before. Must have been having a bad day!

I got a couple good, sensual, high-contact dancers from a Latina MILF who is a favorite of mine. No extras offered, but none sought either. And, like my other recent visits, nobody else approached me (except for the rude girl) during my visit. The girls either hang out upstairs and smoke or disappear into the dressing area after their stage sets. Oh well, I had plenty of fun with my Latina.

Costanza
02-28-12, 10:18
Yeah, Desiree is over 50, she's nice to talk to but I'm not paying her for her services.I find her extremely annoying to talk to. I really don't want to hear about her sewing career, health / holistic store experiences, cookbook writing, etc. I won't say she is rude or unpleasant, but she never says anything important, and you can barely hear her. Too ditzy for me. And I'd never pay a dime for her reported non-service.

StreetMeat
02-29-12, 03:05
Went to the Hustler Wednesday night. Place was dead. Hung out in the VIP bar upstairs. Cute blonde came over and chatted. Right away starts complaining about the lack of business and how she's broke. Even details about how she lives with her sister with her son. Huge turn on, right? Talked about how she doesn't really do extras, and would only do things like finger herself while you jerk yourself off. Then asks if I want a private dance. This may shock everyone but I passed. More of the same boring conversation before she moved on. It was so bad that the bartender called the manager over and bought us a drink, as she had a front row seat for the show and was appalled. Two beers and a free shot and we bailed.Its probably not the first time she has told that story, considering I heard the same thing at trumpps except it was a brunette, and had a daughter. I remember one time I was at the booby trap and was getting dances from this chesty black girl. As soon as she started grinding me she started in on how her water bill was due and she needed someone to "help" her out. Of course my response was help me out and guided her hand to my groin! Of course she said I'm a good girl but ill touch myself for $. I ended the dance, gave her a 10 and wished her luck with the water department.

The average stripper makes at least a grand a night, more if she does extras. They don't need our charity, just our money!

Namb1
02-29-12, 15:28
Its probably not the first time she has told that story, considering I heard the same thing at trumpps except it was a brunette, and had a daughter. I remember one time I was at the booby trap and was getting dances from this chesty black girl. As soon as she started grinding me she started in on how her water bill was due and she needed someone to "help" her out. Of course my response was help me out and guided her hand to my groin! Of course she said I'm a good girl but ill touch myself for $. I ended the dance, gave her a 10 and wished her luck with the water department.

The average stripper makes at least a grand a night, more if she does extras. They don't need our charity, just our money!A grand a night without extras sounds like quite the tall tale. That's 50 lap dances if we are pretending like they don't have to pay the club any of it.

Costanza
02-29-12, 15:43
Its probably not the first time she has told that story, considering I heard the same thing at trumpps except it was a brunette, and had a daughter. I remember one time I was at the booby trap and was getting dances from this chesty black girl. As soon as she started grinding me she started in on how her water bill was due and she needed someone to "help" her out. Of course my response was help me out and guided her hand to my groin! Of course she said I'm a good girl but ill touch myself for $. I ended the dance, gave her a 10 and wished her luck with the water department.

The average stripper makes at least a grand a night, more if she does extras. They don't need our charity, just our money!The amount a stripper makes would be a good topic for a 'poll'-What do you guys and girls think the real average is? I'd bet it is around $300 or so lately. Maybe not at PHC or FC, but there are a lot of Club Venus-type girls out there, and times have been tough the last few years. I know some that can't make tip-out lately.

Truck Engineer
02-29-12, 17:22
The amount a stripper makes would be a good topic for a 'poll'-What do you guys and girls think the real average is? I'd bet it is around $300 or so lately. Maybe not at PHC or FC, but there are a lot of Club Venus-type girls out there, and times have been tough the last few years. I know some that can't make tip-out lately.I have been told by several at several locations lately that a lot of days it is hard to meet the club fees. This topic came up because I went to several clubs and was sad at each about what was there. Most are not working but only the weekends and known busy times. Club fees are from $100 to $250. I was told while at H8S that is it $200 right now. Penthouse and HC are $250 I was told. One girl at H8S when I was there paid the fee and left in front of me. I estimate most girls bring home $250-300 a night on average, for a week totalled up.

Zellyea
02-29-12, 20:00
I probably won't be adding any new information, but visited H8N last night. It was a really slow night. Only four girls working, and none of them were particularly great looking.

Negotiated a BBBJ for 0. 6 with a Hispanic girl whose name I can't remember. The back room, for those who don't know, is a pretty open room with small dividers. Basically no privacy.

Chubbybear
03-01-12, 00:06
I know sometimes the girls during the day at the grind are lucky to make a hundo.And based on tonight's visits to BT's and Bogarts the girls seem to be trying to hold a $$ line. Now some of these girls are worth that, outside of the club for an hour or so. But not in the club for ten or fifteen minutes. I thought with rent due tomorrow they would figure out its better to have $ than zero, but that was not the case. My balls may be blue, but my wallet is full.

A couple of other observations: the girls at Bogarts were much more "in your face" than the girls at BTs but the BT girls were all in all more attractive. Light crowd at BTs, heavier crowd at Bogarts, perhaps in part due to the difference in size between the two clubs. Dinner at BTs continues to be a winner. You need catch Rudy, the day shift chief, for some of the best food. I go for the lamb chops.

Stay safe.

CostasCarl
03-01-12, 00:32
Its probably not the first time she has told that story, considering I heard the same thing at trumpps except it was a brunette, and had a daughter. I remember one time I was at the booby trap and was getting dances from this chesty black girl. As soon as she started grinding me she started in on how her water bill was due and she needed someone to "help" her out. Of course my response was help me out and guided her hand to my groin! Of course she said I'm a good girl but ill touch myself for $. I ended the dance, gave her a 10 and wished her luck with the water department.

The average stripper makes at least a grand a night, more if she does extras. They don't need our charity, just our money!I don't think they make that much, but they should still be better off than most other professions. Just like any business, there are some days they make more than others but overall my guess is that they make about 80. 90 grand a year. Last week I was at Hustlers almost every day and on a couple occasions I was there for the entire night shift. I got a few lap dances from different dancers and I was observing them as they went around. The girls sit and talk with 4 to 5 different groups of guys and then maybe one takes them upstairs. My estimate for an average would be 3 to 4 trips upstairs for a better looking dancer. That translates to 450 to 500 for that night. About 100 in expenses, so that leaves them with 350 to 400 take home. Dancers that are not very attractive sometimes are not able to get many people to take private dances from them. On a really good day, a really good looking and aggressive dancer may make 1000 but that is not the norm.

But it is all tax free money.

Rinhold
03-01-12, 01:08
I know sometimes the girls during the day at the grind are lucky to make a hundo.Do they have a VIP? Are the renovations complete? I used to hang out here a lot when it was called Eros Lounge with a few favs. I always like the vibe.

StreetMeat
03-01-12, 01:51
http://www<dot myfoxdetroit<dot com / dpp / news / local / why-some-exotic-dancers-become-trapped-20120229-ms.

I'm not going to link the entire story but it was originally about the rash of backpage girls either disappearing or turning up dead. But this what made me not feel sorry for these two girls. Watch the rest of the story, when asked if they wanted to get out they flat out refused.

"It was a party every day. We all became friends very fast in the dressing room and everybody hanging out having a fun, party atmosphere. Then, at the end of the night, you walk home with anywhere from $500 to $1000."

$500 on a slow day, and I've talked to a few girls that dance on day shift then drive to another club to dance at nights. A grand a night makes sense.

This should be stickied at the top of every strip club thread on this webpage. Don't be a chump, Do not over pay.

Gwailo
03-01-12, 10:00
I have been told by several at several locations lately that a lot of days it is hard to meet the club fees. This topic came up because I went to several clubs and was sad at each about what was there. Most are not working but only the weekends and known busy times. Club fees are from $100 to $250. I was told while at H8S that is it $200 right now. Penthouse and HC are $250 I was told. One girl at H8S when I was there paid the fee and left in front of me. I estimate most girls bring home $250-300 a night on average, for a week totalled up.I was discussing this topic with a girl at H8S on Saturday. She told me $200 on a bad night. 400-500 avg. And this is a girl who I don't consider attractive, pretty face but a huge ass. But she is young, Saturday was her birthday and she told me she was 23.

JoesParty
03-01-12, 22:27
Stopped by Bogart's today right at shift change. Happy to report their is some promising new talent, including a cute Asian girl, for those of you (like me) with Asian fever. Unhappy to report that, according to the very talkative shot girl, one of the hottest newbies is clean, though I'm not sure I trust the source, and that could change any day anyway. Also unhappy that I didn't have time to try out the goods, but I'm encouraged enough to return.

Costanza
03-02-12, 09:35
Stopped by Bogart's today right at shift change. Happy to report their is some promising new talent, including a cute Asian girl, for those of you (like me) with Asian fever. Unhappy to report that, according to the very talkative shot girl, one of the hottest newbies is clean, though I'm not sure I trust the source, and that could change any day anyway. Also unhappy that I didn't have time to try out the goods, but I'm encouraged enough to return.Asians! OH MY! Was she on dayshift or nightshift? Dayshift almost guarantees she is or will be dirty; nightshift may take some time.

JoesParty
03-02-12, 11:23
Asians! OH MY! Was she on dayshift or nightshift? Dayshift almost guarantees she is or will be dirty; nightshift may take some time.She was on the night shift. Very flirty with the customers, but I wasn't there long enough to see if she went upstairs. Cute face, nice body, but small deductions for observable belly (not "fat" but not a spinner) and a small rack.

Costanza
03-02-12, 14:00
She was on the night shift. Very flirty with the customers, but I wasn't there long enough to see if she went upstairs. Cute face, nice body, but small deductions for observable belly (not "fat" but not a spinner) and a small rack.Hey Joe!

Thanks for the info! I will investigate and report back!

Horn Dog Too
03-03-12, 00:52
Yeah, Desiree is over 50, she's nice to talk to but I'm not paying her for her services.Different strokes for different folks. That's the wonder of women boys, something for everyone!

Big Puff Daddy
03-03-12, 01:06
The amount a stripper makes would be a good topic for a 'poll'-What do you guys and girls think the real average is? I'd bet it is around $300 or so lately. Maybe not at PHC or FC, but there are a lot of Club Venus-type girls out there, and times have been tough the last few years. I know some that can't make tip-out lately.It's hard to say how much the average girl makes. I've spent almost the entire night in some strip clubs and it seems like some girls never get taken to the VIP. Other girls maybe go 5 times or more. Some girls only work 2-3 days a week and others work 5-7. They have to pay tip out and fines and all that crap. So all and all when it's said and done I think it varies by a wide margin from girl to girl. Some may make $100, 000 a year or more and others may be lucky to make $20, 000.

Big Puff Daddy
03-03-12, 01:26
http://www

<dot myfoxdetroit<dot com / dpp / news / local / why-some-exotic-dancers-become-trapped-20120229-ms.

I'm not going to link the entire story but it was originally about the rash of backpage girls either disappearing or turning up dead. But this what made me not feel sorry for these two girls. Watch the rest of the story, when asked if they wanted to get out they flat out refused.

"It was a party every day. We all became friends very fast in the dressing room and everybody hanging out having a fun, party atmosphere. Then, at the end of the night, you walk home with anywhere from $500 to $1000."

$500 on a slow day, and I've talked to a few girls that dance on day shift then drive to another club to dance at nights. A grand a night makes sense.

This should be stickied at the top of every strip club thread on this webpage. Don't be a chump, Do not over pay.They call it the golden handcuffs, you want to get out but the money is too good to quit. I had a job like that. I wasn't a stripper or anything illegal, but I was working long hours and making a ton of money and I could not give it up no matter how much I hated the job or how much stress it was. As far as girls making $500-$1, 000 a night I would say girls who do extras definitely could. And none of those girls in the video were going to admit to that. Also, even if they only make $200 / night those girls wouldn't want people to think they were doing this for only a measly $200 / night. So they might have exgaggerated what they make. Funny thing is those 2 girls in the first video look about 10 years older than I bet they are. The tanning booths, drugs, whatever can age these girls real quick.

Zellyea
03-05-12, 00:49
Tried Bogarts recently during the day shift. Surprisingly, it was quite booming. Definitely ten or more girls and fair number of guys as well. I like the inside of the club better than H8N, but certainly not a "high class" place.

Good mix of girls. None of them were stunners, but a diverse mix of shapes and sizes. I negotiated 0. 8 for a BBBJ with a short skinny hispanic girl. Her name started with an "A", but I can't remember what her name was for the life of me. Very friendly personality, and a decent blow. The private room is a bit weird- there is a like a general open area, but then also a private area behind the curtain. The girl and I basically waited for a while fooling around until the folks in the curtained room left. Not sure if most girls will do that for you, since it took a while for them to come out.

One thing that is extremely annoying about this place is that the waitresses will literally bother you every 5 minutes to buy a drink. And generally not in a friendly manner. I did give the waitress girl a generous tip and she did seem more inclined to leave me be, but she was borderline harassing everyone else to buy drinks. It seems like a difficult place to just sit down and relax because of this.

Jooop
03-05-12, 04:45
It's hard to say how much the average girl makes. I've spent almost the entire night in some strip clubs and it seems like some girls never get taken to the VIP. Other girls maybe go 5 times or more. Some girls only work 2-3 days a week and others work 5-7. They have to pay tip out and fines and all that crap. So all and all when it's said and done I think it varies by a wide margin from girl to girl. Some may make $100, 000 a year or more and others may be lucky to make $20, 000.The girls tell you that there is tip out but if they don't go to VIP they pay the dj and thats about all.

Costanza
03-05-12, 15:51
The girls tell you that there is tip out but if they don't go to VIP they pay the dj and thats about all.The tipout depends entirely on the club and the manager that particular night. DJ's, waitresses (never understood that tipout) and bouncers nearly always want their tips; sometimes the club will waive their fee.

ShotMyAge
03-05-12, 18:15
Anyone know what days Alexandra typically works at PHC? Hope to make a visit soon and sure don't want to miss her.

Tongue
03-05-12, 18:32
I have my own ipod, and I torrent only the best club songs. I'd like a new place to wear my Members Only jacket.

Mister Slate
03-06-12, 14:11
The girls tell you that there is tip out but if they don't go to VIP they pay the dj and thats about all.Girls will obviously say whatever they think is appropriate to enhance their tips. And clubs vary a lot. But typically they charge dancers quite a bit for the privelidge of working. I just took a dancer around the detroit area to a lot of the clubs and what I think of as "rent" but might be called tip out. Required payout, varied from a low about $20 to over $100. Often the earlier they show up the lower, higher on nights an weekends than days and weekdays. Tips to DJs for playing specific music, bouncers and door guys for escort to their car extra.

Cute girls at fancy clubs can make the sort of money discussed if business is good. It's extremely variable for most though. Most dancers have nights where they make almost nothing after paying the club. Like gambling it can be kinda addictive in the sense that they like to focus on the nights they made $800 easy money and not count the nights they payed the house, bought their own drinks and went home $20 poorer than they came in.

Also whether they are just dancing or are full SPs makes a big difference. It's easier to get a good paying regular for a good BJ than just a lapdance.

Window98
03-06-12, 14:30
I've never workes at a stripclub but the payouts do vary. It can be a fee for each dance, for VIP, dj, bouncers, house mom, house fee, drink minimum. It's a mix of all those things varying by club and the cost of each also varies club.

I agree that some girls make lots of money and others don't. Profitable nights can vary even for girls that normally do well.

Not that I'm white knighting strippers but the owners are scumballs with all these fees. The strippers basically pay everyone's salary rather than the owners paying their own employees. Strippers make owner's money yet they are saddled with paying everyone as well.

Bigdikdanaler
03-06-12, 22:00
Well I never got a call back from Gee, so to avoid a boil over I stopped in the newly remodeled players. The bar is now in the center of the place with 2 small stages on either side. Beers during the day used to be like $3. My bud light was $7. I was quickly approached by a tall, long haired brunette, maybe 25 years old. She was around a 7. She asked when the last time I had fun at a club, to which I replied "every time I go hopefully!" I told her I've got a Franklin to spend and she easily agreed. The booths are now very private with red curtains that go from ceiling to floor. I kept her busy for three songs then threw up on the carpet. (her recommendation). I unfortunately don't remember her name. I finished. Net beer while bullshitting with the MILF Bartender and left. They had some really good looking women there too.

Total damage $118 with the one beer and $10 to the valet guy.I recently had the same throw up recommendation right next to couch, I thought it was pretty funny. I like that price, was that for BJ or full sex?

Big Puff Daddy
03-06-12, 23:39
Tried Bogarts recently during the day shift. Surprisingly, it was quite booming. Definitely ten or more girls and fair number of guys as well. I like the inside of the club better than H8N, but certainly not a "high class" place.

Good mix of girls. None of them were stunners, but a diverse mix of shapes and sizes. I negotiated 0. 8 for a BBBJ with a short skinny hispanic girl. Her name started with an "A", but I can't remember what her name was for the life of me. Very friendly personality, and a decent blow. The private room is a bit weird- there is a like a general open area, but then also a private area behind the curtain. The girl and I basically waited for a while fooling around until the folks in the curtained room left. Not sure if most girls will do that for you, since it took a while for them to come out.

One thing that is extremely annoying about this place is that the waitresses will literally bother you every 5 minutes to buy a drink. And generally not in a friendly manner. I did give the waitress girl a generous tip and she did seem more inclined to leave me be, but she was borderline harassing everyone else to buy drinks. It seems like a difficult place to just sit down and relax because of this.I've only been there once or twice, but I will NEVER go there again in part because I too got harassed every 5 minutes to buy a drink and was told I have to have a drink at all times. Plus the girls were fugly skanks except for maybe 1 or 2. And to top it off it was just not my type of crowd.

Jooop
03-07-12, 05:16
Well I never got a call back from Gee, so to avoid a boil over I stopped in the newly remodeled players. The bar is now in the center of the place with 2 small stages on either side. Beers during the day used to be like $3. My bud light was $7. I was quickly approached by a tall, long haired brunette, maybe 25 years old. She was around a 7. She asked when the last time I had fun at a club, to which I replied "every time I go hopefully!" I told her I've got a Franklin to spend and she easily agreed. The booths are now very private with red curtains that go from ceiling to floor. I kept her busy for three songs then threw up on the carpet. (her recommendation). I unfortunately don't remember her name. I finished. Net beer while bullshitting with the MILF Bartender and left. They had some really good looking women there too.

Total damage $118 with the one beer and $10 to the valet guy.Stop in yesterday 7. 00 for a killigans had a little black girl Mer something tell me 25. 00 a dance was not interested so I told her for 6 dances and 20 mins I could get a escort for a hour. Like Gee.

Spongebob357
03-07-12, 14:03
I was in your fair city last week and had just enough time for a quick BT's stop. Got there right at noon just as they where setting up. Got the two beer special 7. 75, watched a few of the lovely's. Looks ranging from a 5 to an 8. JJ a slim 30 something blonde came by looking for a dance. She wanted me to just go to the VIP and see what happens. Ya right. Settled for. 6 for BJ. +.2 pole tax. When we got settled she pulled out a jimmy, oh well still had a nice time. Thank you Detroit!

Worker
03-07-12, 23:05
Stopped in H8S around 6:00pm hoping to find Deanna. Sat at the bar, ordered a beer and just relaxed. I had a couple of girls come up to me that were very straight forward and to the point right off the bat. Dee Dee offered BBJ for $.60 and FS for $.80 but I wasn't into her. Also had Deanna's sister chat me up for a while too.

The place was pretty empty. About 12 girls working. 5 staff guys. 1 DJ and 3 girl bartenders.

Just as I was finishing my 1st beer Deanna comes out of the back and starts to tell me how she remembers me from the last time, with some surprising detail. I can't believe she could remember all that. We chatted for a few minutes before heading to the back. Got a great BBJ. She reall knows what she's doing.

Damages were $5 door fee, $6. 75 / beer, $10 wristband, $80 BBJ and another $6. 75 beer afterwards. Total $110 w / tips to the barmaid. Some can argue $20 too much but Deanna stands firm and I didn't want any of the other hogs. The back room seemed to be changed up a bit. The booths are still small and when the girls are on their knees their feet stick out from under the curtain. Pretty funny really.

I asked Deanna about take-out and she said she's not doing it right now. Probably a good thing. For my wallet at least.

Pete3854
03-08-12, 04:40
Stopped in H8S around 6:00pm hoping to find Deanna. Sat at the bar, ordered a beer and just relaxed. I had a couple of girls come up to me that were very straight forward and to the point right off the bat. Dee Dee offered BBJ for $.60 and FS for $.80 but I wasn't into her. Also had Deanna's sister chat me up for a while too.

The place was pretty empty. About 12 girls working. 5 staff guys. 1 DJ and 3 girl bartenders.

Just as I was finishing my 1st beer Deanna comes out of the back and starts to tell me how she remembers me from the last time, with some surprising detail. I can't believe she could remember all that. We chatted for a few minutes before heading to the back. Got a great BBJ. She reall knows what she's doing.

Damages were $5 door fee, $6. 75 / beer, $10 wristband, $80 BBJ and another $6. 75 beer afterwards. Total $110 w / tips to the barmaid. Some can argue $20 too much but Deanna stands firm and I didn't want any of the other hogs. The back room seemed to be changed up a bit. The booths are still small and when the girls are on their knees their feet stick out from under the curtain. Pretty funny really.

I asked Deanna about take-out and she said she's not doing it right now. Probably a good thing. For my wallet at least.YMMV on the takeout with her.

Costanza
03-09-12, 14:48
Stopped in H8S around 6:00pm hoping to find Deanna. Sat at the bar, ordered a beer and just relaxed. I had a couple of girls come up to me that were very straight forward and to the point right off the bat. Dee Dee offered BBJ for $.60 and FS for $.80 but I wasn't into her. Also had Deanna's sister chat me up for a while too.

The place was pretty empty. About 12 girls working. 5 staff guys. 1 DJ and 3 girl bartenders.

Just as I was finishing my 1st beer Deanna comes out of the back and starts to tell me how she remembers me from the last time, with some surprising detail. I can't believe she could remember all that. We chatted for a few minutes before heading to the back. Got a great BBJ. She reall knows what she's doing.

Damages were $5 door fee, $6. 75 / beer, $10 wristband, $80 BBJ and another $6. 75 beer afterwards. Total $110 w / tips to the barmaid. Some can argue $20 too much but Deanna stands firm and I didn't want any of the other hogs. The back room seemed to be changed up a bit. The booths are still small and when the girls are on their knees their feet stick out from under the curtain. Pretty funny really.

I asked Deanna about take-out and she said she's not doing it right now. Probably a good thing. For my wallet at least.Didn't think Deanna had a sister. Maybe it was Nicole's sister Jennifer?

Member #4934
03-09-12, 14:51
Anyone know what days Jerrica works at H8S? PM me if you have details or her phone.

Thanks

Truck Engineer
03-10-12, 10:35
Didn't think Deanna had a sister. Maybe it was Nicole's sister Jennifer?I can also confirm that Deanna has a sister that also works at H8S like she does.

Counts55
03-10-12, 21:16
I can also confirm that Deanna has a sister that also works at H8S like she does.Deanna does not have a sister that works at H8s.

Truck Engineer
03-11-12, 10:22
Deanna does not have a sister that works at H8s.That is your first post. WTF. Ya ok.

Look, they have both told me what it I reported. I don't really give a shit either way. So back at you, what proof do you have with you one post senior member status to justify your side? Or. Just let it drop. Like it should.

Ddfftt
03-18-12, 11:09
I took a trip up to H8S a few weeks ago After reading on here what to expect. The time was interesting, it's an immediate assault by the girls to get you in the back room. A smaller black dancer approached me and I was interested but I literally was there for 2 minutes and just wanted to relax. She was pretty persistent but I stood my ground. Angleina? Then approached me and I was interested but I fell to the age old practice of not setting up a service and price befOre I went back. Well turns out she doesn't do BJ at all, only FS and HJ. Started at 300 and got her done to 120 for FS but I passed. I did give her 40 for her time. I will say she was super cool and told me to hold on and she grabbed Deanna. Deanna hooked me up well for 80 and did an excellent BBBJ to completion.

I will return with a bit more knowledge and negotiating power.

6.00 beer does sucks as much as I thought it would, at least they are ice cold

Ynormanb
03-18-12, 20:49
I made a recent visit to the Coliseum with a friend while in town. I like extras and petite all natural women. My buddy likes big tits, real or enhanced, and just wants high contact lap dances. Coliseum turned out to be a good place for my buddy but not me. I tried to discuss extras with several ladies that came to our table but was turned down by all of them. My friend went for a lap dance and was propositioned for more once the dance started. Maybe the dancers don't like to discuss options until you spring for a lap dance?

I ended up going to Bogarts by myself later and had a great time. A good variety of body types to choose from and all willing to give extras.

Fun734
03-19-12, 10:56
I took a trip up to H8S a few weeks ago After reading on here what to expect. The time was interesting, it's an immediate assault by the girls to get you in the back room. A smaller black dancer approached me and I was interested but I literally was there for 2 minutes and just wanted to relax. She was pretty persistent but I stood my ground. Angleina? Then approached me and I was interested but I fell to the age old practice of not setting up a service and price befOre I went back. Well turns out she doesn't do BJ at all, only FS and HJ. Started at 300 and got her done to 120 for FS but I passed. I did give her 40 for her time. I will say she was super cool and told me to hold on and she grabbed Deanna. Deanna hooked me up well for 80 and did an excellent BBBJ to completion.

I will return with a bit more knowledge and negotiating power.

6. 00 beer does sucks as much as I thought it would, at least they are ice coldSo you passed on $120 for FS, but paid her $40 and the other girl $80? We're you just not interested in FS? Just curious.

Oneknot
03-19-12, 14:14
Stopped in bogarts Friday after work, and was surprised by the number of good looking girls. I'd say that roughly 80% of the night crew was worth looking at. Had a few lap dances from a couple of cute blondes. I think one was named jade. Both of these girls were a lot of fun, but nothing more than a HJ was offered. On a positive note, there was no charge! Ended up getting my last dance from a gal named Mandy. She was totally messed up on something, but got FS from her for. $ sadly this chick was blown out. I think you could have driven an Amtrak in her box. Not going to repeat with this one.

There was also the long straight haired brunette offering dances, but I can't stand her because she really really smells like a wet ashtray. Guess that if they don't have good hygiene, they don't care if they get an std. Just my two cents.

I did run into a guy who said that the silver cricket has changed, and it is a good place to get higher and lower talent. I'd like to think that this guy was a fellow monger, and if so, thank you for the advice.

I'll hit llt next time I'm in flint.

Ddfftt
03-19-12, 16:13
So you passed on $120 for FS, but paid her $40 and the other girl $80? We're you just not interested in FS? Just curious.Ya, I had one of those weeks where I just wanted to see a girl on her knees in front of me. I'm sure you've been there before. I'm also 6'3" and about 250. The booths are just too small for FS to really enjoy it unless its a hit and quit.

PootangPuncher
03-20-12, 22:27
You will get hustled at the HC. Nice VIP but not worth the trip.I could not agree more about HC. Last time I was there they had some great looking girls working. I took two different girls to the VIP area and both wanted way to much for everything. Got a couple lap dances and one of the girls did not charge me to lick some sugar off her titty before we did our shots she wanted. With the way their prices were, I thought for sure I was going to get hit up for a $20 for the sugar thing.

Yoss1138
03-21-12, 20:37
I was in your fair city last week and had just enough time for a quick BT's stop. Got there right at noon just as they where setting up. Got the two beer special 7. 75, watched a few of the lovely's. Looks ranging from a 5 to an 8. JJ a slim 30 something blonde came by looking for a dance. She wanted me to just go to the VIP and see what happens. Ya right. Settled for. 6 for BJ. +.2 pole tax. When we got settled she pulled out a jimmy, oh well still had a nice time. Thank you Detroit!I was also in Detroit a few weeks back. I usually go to PH / FC / Hustler but I decided to check out BTs since it was getting a lot of attention here on the forum.

No offense, but BTs was a disappointment. The talent was solid tier below the the PH / FC / HC crowd. Lots of heifers. The crowd had a decent amount of the gangbanger element. The venue was nothing special. Maybe I'm spoiled but I wouldn't go to BTs against unless you're on a serious budget.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.

Member #4934
03-22-12, 11:15
I was also in Detroit a few weeks back. I usually go to PH / FC / Hustler but I decided to check out BTs since it was getting a lot of attention here on the forum.

No offense, but BTs was a disappointment. The talent was solid tier below the the PH / FC / HC crowd. Lots of heifers. The crowd had a decent amount of the gangbanger element. The venue was nothing special. Maybe I'm spoiled but I wouldn't go to BTs against unless you're on a serious budget.

Different strokes for different folks I guess.Sorry about your experience, these thing do happen. Talent is cyclical at all clubs. The feedback I've been getting on PHC, FC, and HC have been that the talent is hit and miss, the girls all want to much and over count dances.

I have only been to BT's on day shift. 4 visits. 3 Fridays and a Wednesday. There have only been business types in there, each time. Talent is in the eye of the beholder (or crotch of the monger) , but the average talent has been mostly 6s-8s. Sometimes there will be a 9 or two, and usually there are a couple below 5. I've never paid more than $200 for FS with the GFE, and usually spend $150.

But know this, BT's is a mid-level club. It's below Penthouse / Hustler / Flight Club, and above H8 / Subi's / Bogarts. You will score at BT's, the physical club is very nice and clean, and the staff is friendly with little drink hustle. This has always been what I gathered from the feedback on this board, and that's what drew me visit.

Having said that, I can't wait to return in April!

Yoss1138
03-22-12, 20:48
But know this, BT's is a mid-level club. It's below Penthouse / Hustler / Flight Club, and above H8 / Subi's / Bogarts. You will score at BT's, the physical club is very nice and clean, and the staff is friendly with little drink hustle. This has always been what I gathered from the feedback on this board, and that's what drew me visit.

Having said that, I can't wait to return in April!Yes, mid-tier would be an accurate description. Being an out-of-towner, I think I had the wrong impression from the attention it was getting here. In my mind I had it down as a high-end spot.

But the night was not lost. The GPS directed straight down the street to Flight Club where things were more my speed. I will also be returning in April. Can't wait.

Cnote313
03-23-12, 19:11
Wow, I've been to the mountaintop! As in a tall glass of water named Sierra. The best that Club Venus has to offer. I know what you're thinkin while you roll your eyes- Club Venus? Well that ain't saying much!". LOL, I know. But really I a real dream in VIP with the sexy Sierra. Everything I could ask for (well except BBBJ). Juicy thick thighs, sexy smile, phat ass, nice tits with super suckable nipples and a real sweetheart to boot. What a dream and a very very wet one at that. For real, W. E. T! I really can't overstate it. She was a trooper and hung in there for like 3 songs at least. Nice feedback as well. I could be wrong but I believe she enjoyed herself as well. I got to DATY in between rounds. Yummy, clean and creamy just like I like it. Would love to dine Out with one for a couple of hours for real! D*mn! My knees were wobbly by the time we were done. Near perfect and very satisfying experience. Can't wait to repeat. She said she is there Thu, Fri and Sat before 6. Damage $.2.

Horn Dog Too
03-26-12, 09:54
I will return with a bit more knowledge and negotiating power.

6. 00 beer does sucks as much as I thought it would, at least they are ice cold[/QUOTE]To put 6bux beer in perspective. I was in San Juan Puerto Rico last week. At the swim up bar I had a local can of beer, and a mojito, without asking the price first. Bar tab with tip was 22bux. LOL, not a naked woman in sight, just mostly plumpy cruisers and a few hot moms. I won't ***** about 6 buck beers in a strip club again. Now if H8S could put in a swim up bar!

Spongebob357
03-28-12, 08:03
I haven't been to Bogarts in a long time so I thought I would see if anything has changed. Same old Bogies except that they have put 6 private booths in the VIP, each one about 4'x5' with a curtain. The other change is that the dancers seem to have standardized their rates. I asked several girls for a BJ and was quoted $.2 by each one. When I said "no way" and that I would pay half that amount I was flatly refused by each. Oh well back to BT's.

Oneknot
03-28-12, 11:58
Please don't cave for the. 2 line at bogarts. This place is not worth it, and if you are suckered into paying that much, it makes it harder for the rest of us. These girls should never get more than. 1 as they just aren't that good. Many of them are good looking, but they usually have bad hygiene. Seriously, I've smelled locker rooms that smell better than a lot of the girls there. Sadly I've come to the understanding that the hottest girls don't do extras at bogarts. I don't fully cOmprehend why this is, and why they are at bogarts.

Keep them lOwballed. And they will perform.

Beer30
03-28-12, 18:57
I drove up yesterday evening and found the parking lots at bogarts and the flight club about empty so I went on to H8s and no big shock it was empty too but figured wth and went in. Just as dead as I expected and stayed that way till I left. Got a great CBJ from tall black girl who's name has slipped my mind for 60. First black girl I've ever had that didn't rush me, I normally avoid them for that reason but with only like 5 girls there I didn't have much to choose from. That said I will probably repeat with her since she took direction well and didn't even hint at rushing me.

Then I went to bograt's around 1am and it was pretty busy. I don't know if the wristbands at both places were the same color that night or they just weren't charging but no cover and no charge for the VIP room. Got quoted 200 FS or 140 BJ I countered with 70 for a BJ and off we went, knew I should've went lower LOL. Anyhow yet again another CBJ that was pretty decent. After that it was time to head home.

Not sure why but I still like H8s better then bograts even with H8s having lower quality girls and an open VIP room. Bograts always just seems like a clusterfuck.

Since when did all the CBJ only shit start? When I first started coming up here it was only the bottom dollar girls that were doing them, now it seems like they all are.

In a way I'm so glad I don't live closer or I'd have a real problem LOL

Custom404
03-30-12, 09:02
Hadn't been to H8S in over a year, so was excited to make a return.

Got there around 10PM. Pretty good stable of dancers, with some ethnic variety.

Maybe it's my imagination, but the bar seemed a little cleaner and stage lights a little brighter. I also didn't remember having to pay for a band to get to VIP in the past.

Was immediately approached by Nadia or Naughtia a slender attractive, somewhat exotic looking mixed girl. She said it was her second night back after taking a year off.

Great conversation, but not as forward as some of the girls, so wasn't sure what I get for a dance. I sat around for a while with her, but decided to wait for another girl for a dance. This was likely a mistake.

Ended up hooking up with Destiny. Slender 20 something white girl with little tits and shaved pussy.

Quoted fun "starting at $". Ended up settling for a BJ for. 8.

Always got BB here in the past, but this time it was covered. Altogether, not a very inspired effort by Destiny, but still got the job done.

WillyWonka082
03-30-12, 14:44
Made a trip in yesterday late afternoon. A precious little gem was working. 5'4" thin (Healthy) small beez, and gorgeous face, and great attitude. I believe her name was Deana or something similar, was vey loud where I was sitting. She quoted 3. For all and I laughed, unintentionally and countered with never mind. She said 2. And I just shook my head. Then said 1. 5 I said I had 1. She said only a BJ I asked if bb and with her yes off we went. Once in back she said 3 songs and I said never mind. She said no it's ok I'll get it done fast for you and if you go over it's ok. So she proceeded with a great BBBJ. At one point I was standing in front of her face f'in her and she seemed to enjoy it, not as much as me though. Lots of bls and finger play. She sucked and licked fingers while doing HJ and I finished half in mouth and on face and tits. I would repeat in a heartbeat.

Gwailo
03-31-12, 17:06
Hadn't been to H8S in over a year, so was excited to make a return.

Got there around 10PM. Pretty good stable of dancers, with some ethnic variety.

Maybe it's my imagination, but the bar seemed a little cleaner and stage lights a little brighter. I also didn't remember having to pay for a band to get to VIP in the past.

Was immediately approached by Nadia or Naughtia a slender attractive, somewhat exotic looking mixed girl. She said it was her second night back after taking a year off.

Great conversation, but not as forward as some of the girls, so wasn't sure what I get for a dance. I sat around for a while with her, but decided to wait for another girl for a dance. This was likely a mistake.

Ended up hooking up with Destiny. Slender 20 something white girl with little tits and shaved pussy.

Quoted fun "starting at $". Ended up settling for a BJ for. 8.

Always got BB here in the past, but this time it was covered. Altogether, not a very inspired effort by Destiny, but still got the job done.Destiny will do BBBJ if you insist on it. (at least she does for me). If she thinks you're going to walk she'll change her mind.

Jooop
04-03-12, 16:18
Regular was busy (don't take sloppy don't want to kiss after a dick was in that mouth or pussy just my choice) so just had two beers, put a buck in Ebony thong ask her when she was going to let me suck that pussy and got a never, (she told me she has been there three years and NEVER did BJ or FS and I told her don't tell me you were a Nun next) really don't want to put my tung in that nasty thing any way. Should be a good week as a lot of the girls with kids will not be there.

Chuka
04-04-12, 18:38
What is the best place for big voluptuous women (BVW)? La Chambre was my favorite, until it became all twigs. The only place I know now is Club Venus, but I don't like the VIP room, unless that has been remodeled.

Tomautoman
04-05-12, 10:47
Nice trip to H8N on Monday. Just happened to be in the area so I figured what the hell. To my surprize there was a great selection of dancers. Was first approached by Kelsey but had just gotten there so I passed for a minute. Had my eve on Pixie as I had gotten great dances before and left more than happy. Waited but she had someone there so next was approached by Heidi. I had seen her before or so I thought but she seems a bit thicker now. Actually just how I like them so we make a plan at the table and off to the VIP. Great dance, I left more than happy and did it all for less than a Benji.

Anansi
04-05-12, 20:48
I'd recommend club Venus or chapeau vert.I'd second the choice of the Day shift of Vert.

NutInHer
04-06-12, 09:32
Hit up Bogarts after the Tigers game and casino. The place was packed, Dominique was more than happy to give me a release BBBJ style. Quoted me 150, after my laughter ensued, she settled for $70 like a good girl. Love the new booths, highly recommended!

Cnote313
04-07-12, 00:14
Glad somebody had fun today.

I wanted to sample some fresh BP Hotel Dreamer today (that was my plan all week).

But I didn't charge my phone enough before I left the job and when I tried calling my hopefuls. Neither answered and then my phone went dead.

So what does do I do? Well I need to stay east (if not it would have been straight to BT's!) so I take a stroll down 8 Mile to see what the SC action is like on a Friday.

First stop was Coli. And this was my very first time there. ZZZZZZZZzzzzzzzzzz. Boring as fuck. There were plenty of entertainers (at least 20 or more) but I only saw one or two worthy of my interest. (I don't like twigs with hack job boobies) The one I would have VIP'd never came my way. Actually the whole time I was NEVER approached (I was there at least 45 min if not an hour) BTW, I got there around 4:30 pm. The one I wanted was a light skin black or mixed lady (re: older. But nicely aged) This day she had a head full of whitish blonde hair. Nice C cups and a fair amount of ass. She made her way around to a couple of older guys (re: deep pocket regulars, probaly) I started to break my rule and go get her but I said screw it and left.

My second stop and again another first time visit for me was Tycoon's (down the street).

Now this is somewhat more my speed. A smaller less pretentious place where you will certainly get approached without a doubt.

I found my target. A black girl named PARIS. She was a nicely shaped girl with nice B to C cups and juicy booty. I tipped her at the stage to introduce myself. She was very flirty. It was hot for me too see the hair on her trimmed kitty on either side of the bikini bottom as she pulled it upward to tease me. Yummy! She let me know she would join me when she came down. When she did, she knew I was VIP material and we briefly discussed things. This is where I forgot the lessons I learned on this site and didn't get specific ENOUGH before going to VIP. We agreed on. 8 and she said "She would TAKE care of me" and I re-iterated " So you're going to *wink wink* take care of me, right?" and again she assured me. Well, we pay the VIP tax (.4, OUCH!) and proceed to the "room". I get comfy (re: bottoms off) and she pulls out a cover (*sigh*. Just my luck (not). So CBJ it is and thats all it was to be. I'm trying to enjoy it but a song later and she trying that "I want you to "finish" in my mouth" (translation: hurry up) bull ish. It ain't helping. I want FS at this point. She has a really juicy bottom. I wanted her bad but of course that would be more. Silly girl first said it would be $100 more. LMAO! Nice try. Don't think so. I tell her I can't do that. She then drops to an additional $50 to get the main course. Now that my little head tells me we can do BUT I as is my rule left my wallet / debit card in my car. I don't like going outside to come back because the mood would leave me and I probaly wouldn't go back even though I hadn't launched my rocket yet. So I let her finish me off with a C-HJ at that. I was pretty pissed at myself and thoroughly dissappointed with experience. When I compared what I got for my. 8 and what I could have gotten with a BP hotel dreamer, I was fuming. Hotel dreams are so much better. MORE room, More time, no noise, usually not a rush better service and overall experience. If my phone had had a solid charge I would have eventually reached a BP hotel dreamer and had the experience I needed. Oh F'ing well. I need to invest in a car charger. Oh yeah I did but for some reason my cigarette lighter doesn't work. Just my damn luck. ;. (

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JoesParty
04-07-12, 09:35
Well, we pay the VIP tax (.4, OUCH!) and proceed to the "room".Sorry you had a bad day; happens to all of us. But is the bouncer tax at Tycoon's really 40 now? I seem to remember it being only half that, but it's been more than a year since I was there.

Chris Flasher
04-08-12, 13:51
I have been following this forum for some time and have been a member for sometime. I will post details about a series of Visits to various clubs. I made 10 visits to 3 clubs in the last 3 weeks. I plan to stop for some time and rethink. It is probably better to have a safe sugarbaby by paying the same $1000.

Last Wednesday I visited BT's at around 4 PM. Typical crowd a lot of 6 to 7's. Talked to a blonde with medium build, not rail thin or Big, name is Cassidy or some thing like that. I don't remember Exactly.

Asked 130 for BJ, negotiated a CBJ for 100. She does not do Extras. Pretty mechanical and does not like to talk, very business like, tried to finish it ASAP. Was done in 2 songs. Not highly impressed.

Last Saturday, I went to Coli's at around 3PM. Empty club, couple of hot girls and lots of drama. 3 girls sat with me. Bought one of them a drink. None of the good looking girls were willing to do any extras. Got some dances with a good looking blonde called Isabella. She got completely nude. Good bit of roaming and digits. But no extras.

These days I found that lots of good looking girls in COli and Penthouse are not doing extras or asking too much for a BJ let alone FS.

About 2 weeks ago, I went to penthouse and met with a good looking tall blonde. She was quite tall, and small cups. We discussed before we went back. Wanted $$$$ for a BJ. I did not even negotiate and went back for just dances, she had lots of rules to touching of Cups, no kissing, no anything and I said no aftter 1 song. She generally sits on the bar during daytime with another blonde called rafale or something like that.

Then I got a CBJ from a blonde thin girl for $.2. She did an ok job and talked friendly and was willing to meet outside.

After spending roughly grand and half in a span of 3 weeks. I plan to stop and I am looking to other options. Not into SW's which I think is too risky.

John3030
04-08-12, 19:57
Lots of good info, but as you point out, clubs can quickly drain the wallet with little satisfaction. I have moved away from the clubs in general, favoring a provider instead as I know what I will be getting for my money.


I have been following this forum for some time and have been a member for sometime. I will post details about a series of Visits to various clubs. I made 10 visits to 3 clubs in the last 3 weeks. I plan to stop for some time and rethink. It is probably better to have a safe sugarbaby by paying the same $1000.

Last Wednesday I visited BT's at around 4 PM. Typical crowd a lot of 6 to 7's. Talked to a blonde with medium build, not rail thin or Big, name is Cassidy or some thing like that. I don't remember Exactly.

Asked 130 for BJ, negotiated a CBJ for 100. She does not do Extras. Pretty mechanical and does not like to talk, very business like, tried to finish it ASAP. Was done in 2 songs. Not highly impressed.

Last Saturday, I went to Coli's at around 3PM. Empty club, couple of hot girls and lots of drama. 3 girls sat with me. Bought one of them a drink. None of the good looking girls were willing to do any extras. Got some dances with a good looking blonde called Isabella. She got completely nude. Good bit of roaming and digits. But no extras.

These days I found that lots of good looking girls in COli and Penthouse are not doing extras or asking too much for a BJ let alone FS.

About 2 weeks ago, I went to penthouse and met with a good looking tall blonde. She was quite tall, and small cups. We discussed before we went back. Wanted $$$$ for a BJ. I did not even negotiate and went back for just dances, she had lots of rules to touching of Cups, no kissing, no anything and I said no aftter 1 song. She generally sits on the bar during daytime with another blonde called rafale or something like that.

Then I got a CBJ from a blonde thin girl for $.2. She did an ok job and talked friendly and was willing to meet outside.

After spending roughly grand and half in a span of 3 weeks. I plan to stop and I am looking to other options. Not into SW's which I think is too risky.

Jooop
04-09-12, 02:43
Lots of good info, but as you point out, clubs can quickly drain the wallet with little satisfaction. I have moved away from the clubs in general, favoring a provider instead as I know what I will be getting for my money.Ditto and there are some hot providers out there.

Member #4934
04-09-12, 09:56
Visited on a Tuesday evening, after spending the afternoon at BT's. *Paid a $5 cover. *Definitely a small club, as mentioned in other reviews. Upon walking in, a hot brunette with bolt-ons was working the stage. A guy was making it rain on her, and he had a group of friends. *I sat down and took a beer from the waitress. There appeared to be 4-5 girls working (all*6s and 7s, one Black, rest White) , a bartender, shot girl, DJ, and doorman. *

I was immediately approached by C, a young and hot thick brunette with blond highlights (I would rate her a 7). *She basically gave me the Henry's Handshake and I knew it was time for fun! I bought her and I a couple of shots, then discussed the menu. *She quoted $ for BBBJ, $$ for FS. *I was only in the mood for the first option, so I negotiated $60, ($10 dance night) with an $20 tip if she can finish in under 4 songs. C* agreed and we went to the "back".

Paid $10 bouncer fee and went back to a dark curtained booth that looked to hold two seats with a separator between them. It provided enough privacy for me. *I intentionally did not scrutinize the carpet or walls. *And I have to hand it to C, as I finished about halfway through the third song. *Since my eyes were in the back of my head, I couldn't tell if any spilled out. *But she never spit, and my clothes remained dry. **I would put that in the top 5 BJs received all time. *

I would return, but would try some other places first.

Member #4934
04-09-12, 10:08
Reviewed on: April 8, 2012.

Visited on: Tuesday Afternoon.

Dancers on Shift: 11-25.

Dancers

Value Atmosphere.

Overall.

This review covers two visits on consecutive days. *

While in town on business, I visited on a Tuesday for a late lunch. *Got valet parking, no cover charge. Was greeted by Janelle (waitress) and Juanita (shot girl) , who both remembered me from a previous visit. I sat at a booth and ordered the BOGO special on Bud Lite Lime. *

There was a bit of a dancer shortage until about 2pm. I would say about 4 girls before, and maybe 7-8 after. The talent level was quite low, though. *I think there was one Black. 1 multiracial Black, and the rest White. I would describe most in the 6-8 range, but 2 of the White girls had no business dancing. I seriously asked a dancer if those two girls were the House Moms. *When I first arrived, there appeared to be 5-6 other customers, but before too long, there would only be me and another small group. *

While I waited for my ATF, I did shots with J & J. We had a good time and I got introduced to the DJ, who played my two requests. After my ATF arrived, I had some fun and games with the girls, then went back for a half hour. Paid the $20 bouncer tax, and got to the main event. *Got the whole GFE, and finished completely satisfied. *

After freshening up and returning to my booth, did some more shots with J&J, plus my ATF. *However this party atmosphere attracted a few Klingons. I offered one a seat, her name was A. *A young, tan spinner with light brown hair. I would rate her a 7. *While drinking and hanging out at the booth, she kept getting closer and closer. Despite the fact that my ATF was sitting close and snuggling up, A* starts giving me a Canadian Handy J! *She also whispered into my ear about how much fun we could have in VIP. I had to decline because I had to go, but told her I would return the next day. *

I did return the following day at lunchtime *to meet up with a fellow TUSCL member. Janelle and my ATF were not working, but Juanita and Kristal Lynn (waitress) took care of me. *We all did shots, plus A* joined us. *

There were way more girls on Wednesday, at least 12, maybe 15. *Not all girls did stage shows, so it was hard to tell. The unattractive girls from the previous day were nowhere to be found, and the overall talent level was higher. I would say all 7 and 8s, with two 9s.

After partying for 30 minutes or so, A* and I went back for the main event. *Before heading back, I had negotiated $150 for a warm up dance, DFK, masturbation dance, DATY, CG, K9, BBBJ, and CIM lasting about 20-25 minutes. I said if I got everything, I would tip on top of that. She agreed to these terms. *

Once we started our dance she starts to show her amateur status. She says,"what's DFK?" I explain. *After that she says,"I've never done a masturbation dance, what do I do?" *Me: "Um, dance around and play with your pussy." *After half a song of this I ask her to turn around and do it. Immediately she says,"I hope you don't want to stick it in my butt, I tried it with a small guy, and it really hurt!" Well I just wanted to see her play with herself from behind. *

Okay after that I was ready to fuck, so I grab the condom and say,"let's do it." *I shit you not, she says,"so what's Cow Girl?" *OMFG! *I'm not into amateurs or newbies, and she talked such a good game before, I couldn't believe how much instruction I had to give her. *Anyway A* gets on top and fucks for like half a song, and is completely out of breath. *So she says,"let's switch to doggie so you can cum."*

We switch and I hit it for a song, and she keeps asking for it harder. So I hit it harder. Before the second song is up, she starts saying "you're hurting me", and rushing me to finish, saying we've been back here a long time. So she has us switch to a BJ, but informs me that he doesn't let guys come in her mouth. WTF? *Now I'm getting the bait and switch here. Her technique was way too gentle for a covered BJ, and I end up taking control myself for a chest finale. * I gave her money and asked,"do you remember what I said about a tip?". She did, but just wasn't used to going so long.

Now I understand that some guys don't go very long before finishing, but others will go much longer. I told her up front everything I wanted and how long it might be. * The fact of the matter is that she didn't deliver. *I love BT's, and will be returning, but no more VIP with A. She was a sweet girl, so I'm not throwing her name in this report. (PM me if you want it). But it was a waste of time considering the other available hotties.

I hit the restroom to cleanup, paid my tab, and left. *

Member #4934
04-09-12, 10:13
Driving back to Ohio from a business trip and a couple of Dearborn clubs, I decided I had to stop into the King's Court. I arrived just before cover started, so I didn't pay anything to get in. I sat at the bar and talked to Tricia, the 14 year veteran bartender that looks like Erin Gray from Buck Rogers in the 80s. We had a great conversation, and she remembered my previous drink order from almost six months ago.

I counted only 5 girls working. A, a 40ish platinum blond, the one Black girl that works there, a chunky brunette with some Latin heritage, and a really hot, tan brunette. I would put A* around a 6, and the other girls around 5, but the tan brunette was an easy 8, maybe a 9, but I only saw her in passing. Her body was banging! She had bolt-ons and nice hair.

I was going to make a move on the hottie, but as soon as I turned around A* cock blocked me. Literally. With her hand. She remembered me from previous visits. We had a great conversation for about thirty minutes. After that we went back for a few VIP dances. 25 minutes worth. I got the usual services at the usual rate. HJ, CG, K9, BBBJ, CIM. I'm not sure how much $10 dance Wednesday affected things.

The VIP area has been modified since my last visit. Now there are four booths, but they are shallower than before. Also the girls spent their own money on some throw rugs, so they don't have to put their knees on the concrete floor.

After the fun I sat at the bar and bought drinks for the waitresses and doorman. Everybody was very nice and I got some free passes. I would return, I always have a nice time.

Drtsnooch
04-09-12, 22:47
Stopped into Coli around 1 pm. Mostly 6s and 7s. 2 really cute tall Black girls. Saw 2 exceptionally curvy girls who caught my attention. 1 was Italian, the other appeared to be a dyed blonde Brazilian. Turned down the Brazilian in favor of the Italian who was cut like a diamond, had curves like a snake. She wanted 25 / song. I told her I only paid a flat fee. She said OK, what do you want. 30 minutes? I said, yeah. Things were looking good until I tried to tie her down on exactly what mileage I would receive before going back. Suddenly, she had to go to the restroom. It seems that the hottest couple of girls at Coli don't do extras. I'm going to try my luck at BT's from now on. Wound up having to go to Sunny Skies to get the job done.

Moputter
04-12-12, 20:50
I will be coming back to Detroit next week (woo hoo!) and am looking forward to some daytime fun. I have been to Bogarts, H8's, and Flight Club. I wasn't fond of H8's, except the sexiest bartender ever, and Flight Club was okay, but Bogarts was always a good time. I like my joints to be a little seedier casual. Just a personal preference.

I have RTFF so many times I think I know it by heart and really want to try out BT's. But with all great anticipation I am not wanting to be let down. I have a bad habit of sticking around a place too long, spending a little too much on drinks, dances, tips, etc. When I could just focus my allowance on one place and have a fantastic time. My question to you experts is this. Should I try BT's or stick to Bogies? I will be staying very near the both of them, which also helps.

I am putting my dilemma into your all's hands. Also, if there is another place any of you recommend in this vicinity that you all think I will enjoy, please feel free to let me know.

Help a visitor make the right choice. As always, I will share my exploits after my trip. Thanks in advance.

If it helps, I am really only looking for an "oral" exam, not a complete physical.

Here on forum or PM is fine.

StreetMeat
04-12-12, 21:19
I will be coming back to Detroit next week (woo hoo!) and am looking forward to some daytime fun. I have been to Bogarts, H8's, and Flight Club. I wasn't fond of H8's, except the sexiest bartender ever, and Flight Club was okay, but Bogarts was always a good time. I like my joints to be a little seedier casual. Just a personal preference.

I have RTFF so many times I think I know it by heart and really want to try out BT's. But with all great anticipation I am not wanting to be let down. I have a bad habit of sticking around a place too long, spending a little too much on drinks, dances, tips, etc. When I could just focus my allowance on one place and have a fantastic time. My question to you experts is this. Should I try BT's or stick to Bogies? I will be staying very near the both of them, which also helps.

I am putting my dilemma into your all's hands. Also, if there is another place any of you recommend in this vicinity that you all think I will enjoy, please feel free to let me know.

Help a visitor make the right choice. As always, I will share my exploits after my trip. Thanks in advance.

If it helps, I am really only looking for an "oral" exam, not a complete physical.

Here on forum or PM is fine.My advice, go to bogarts. From what I hear of bt's the booth tax is outright thevery. Bogarts is only $10 and you can go in and out multiple times. The quality of girls are the same so go for what you know! I don't know if you can make it up to penthouse club on 8 mile but at least try it once!

HardOn
04-13-12, 06:12
I vote for BT's. The talent is too hit or miss at Bogarts. I was there last night and virtually every dancer had a fat gut. Two minutes after I walked in a hood type dude got chased out of the VIP area by a black dancer, who then had a loud argument with the manager. I have had great times at Bogarts but last night I finished my first beer and hit the road.


I will be coming back to Detroit next week (woo hoo!) and am looking forward to some daytime fun. I have been to Bogarts, H8's, and Flight Club. I wasn't fond of H8's, except the sexiest bartender ever, and Flight Club was okay, but Bogarts was always a good time. I like my joints to be a little seedier casual. Just a personal preference.

I have RTFF so many times I think I know it by heart and really want to try out BT's. But with all great anticipation I am not wanting to be let down. I have a bad habit of sticking around a place too long, spending a little too much on drinks, dances, tips, etc. When I could just focus my allowance on one place and have a fantastic time. My question to you experts is this. Should I try BT's or stick to Bogies? I will be staying very near the both of them, which also helps.

I am putting my dilemma into your all's hands. Also, if there is another place any of you recommend in this vicinity that you all think I will enjoy, please feel free to let me know.

Help a visitor make the right choice. As always, I will share my exploits after my trip. Thanks in advance.

If it helps, I am really only looking for an "oral" exam, not a complete physical.

Here on forum or PM is fine.

Eq Twink
04-13-12, 08:33
I will be coming back to Detroit next week (woo hoo!) and am looking forward to some daytime fun. I have been to Bogarts, H8's, and Flight Club. I wasn't fond of H8's, except the sexiest bartender ever, and Flight Club was okay, but Bogarts was always a good time. I like my joints to be a little seedier casual. Just a personal preference.

I have RTFF so many times I think I know it by heart and really want to try out BT's. But with all great anticipation I am not wanting to be let down. I have a bad habit of sticking around a place too long, spending a little too much on drinks, dances, tips, etc. When I could just focus my allowance on one place and have a fantastic time. My question to you experts is this. Should I try BT's or stick to Bogies? I will be staying very near the both of them, which also helps.

I am putting my dilemma into your all's hands. Also, if there is another place any of you recommend in this vicinity that you all think I will enjoy, please feel free to let me know.

Help a visitor make the right choice. As always, I will share my exploits after my trip. Thanks in advance.

If it helps, I am really only looking for an "oral" exam, not a complete physical.

Here on forum or PM is fine.I disagree with Street a bit. I think the girls at BTs are generally better looking by an average of about a point. The biggest downsides to BTs are: a) all the taxes (valet, coat, VIP) and be) the music is too damn loud. The biggest downsides to Bogies are a) the waitresses hustle for drinks constantly and be) less privacy in the VIP area. Personally, I find the chances of uninterupted high mileage is better at BTs, and several of the taxes (other than VIP) can be avoided. If it's Tuesday I'd go to Bogies.

Member #4934
04-13-12, 09:54
I posted reviews below for both bars. BT's is easily twice the size of Bogart's, and twice as nice, too. So with those two facts, you're going to inccur more taxes as mentioned below. Certainly the VIP is way more private and nicer at BT's. Music loudness is a matter of where you sit, as I have wanted the music louder at BT's when I sat near the Dressing Room.

I think you can get an oral exam pretty much at any club on Michigan avenue without much effort.


I will be coming back to Detroit next week (woo hoo!) and am looking forward to some daytime fun. I have been to Bogarts, H8's, and Flight Club. I wasn't fond of H8's, except the sexiest bartender ever, and Flight Club was okay, but Bogarts was always a good time. I like my joints to be a little seedier casual. Just a personal preference.

I have RTFF so many times I think I know it by heart and really want to try out BT's. But with all great anticipation I am not wanting to be let down. I have a bad habit of sticking around a place too long, spending a little too much on drinks, dances, tips, etc. When I could just focus my allowance on one place and have a fantastic time. My question to you experts is this. Should I try BT's or stick to Bogies? I will be staying very near the both of them, which also helps.

I am putting my dilemma into your all's hands. Also, if there is another place any of you recommend in this vicinity that you all think I will enjoy, please feel free to let me know.

Help a visitor make the right choice. As always, I will share my exploits after my trip. Thanks in advance.

If it helps, I am really only looking for an "oral" exam, not a complete physical.

Here on forum or PM is fine.

Oneknot
04-13-12, 15:49
I happen to enjoy both clubs. Depends on what you are looking for. Bogarts is seedy and dirty. The talent can be hit or miss with more of a miss type of atmosphere. The waitresses will constantly hassle you to buy more drinks. All in all it can be a good budget place to have some fun.

BT's on the other hand is much cleaner. They try to be a more upscale club and it does show. The place is well lit for a club and you don't feel like you are in a Mexican border town bar. The girls at BT's tend to be younger with tight bodies. Anything goes, and while you do pay a VIP tax every time you go to the back, the bouncer cleans up and leaves you to do as you please. Very pleasant atmosphere. If I had to make a comparison, I would say that BT's is the dirty little sister to the Penthouse club.

Oneknot
04-13-12, 15:53
Stopped into this place for lunch yesterday. The place actually had a few good looking girls. Ended up going to the back with Russian named dancer. Good time. Half handy and half BJ with no up charge. Only down side to the place is that when you walk out of the door, you are facing a church. Woo hoo bible thumpers and boobies!

StreetMeat
04-13-12, 23:19
I think you can get an oral exam pretty much at any club on Michigan avenue without much effort.I'm inclined to agree, I was about to mention there was no extras at centerfolds but I remember a time where I was in there and I got a HJ for $ back in 01 or 02. The only reason I remember it because I was there when the wings were destroying colorado and the there was a round of drinks everytime they scored. Between that and a very nice girl had gave me some viragra that I wanted to try out on a SW. Of course after one hour I couldn't put the damn thing down so the dancer I was with just reached in and helped me out.

Of course what she didn't know I had just done a SW about 45 minutes earlier and judged the little blue pill a fake! I hope she washed her hands afterwards.

Jackbb
04-14-12, 18:36
Reviewed on: April 8, 2012.

Visited on: Tuesday Afternoon.

Dancers on Shift: 11-25.

Dancers

Value Atmosphere.

Overall.

This review covers two visits on consecutive days. *

While in town on business, I visited on a Tuesday for a late lunch. *Got valet parking, no cover charge. Was greeted by Janelle (waitress) and Juanita (shot girl) , who both remembered me from a previous visit. I sat at a booth and ordered the BOGO special on Bud Lite Lime. *

There was a bit of a dancer shortage until about 2pm. I would say about 4 girls before, and maybe 7-8 after. The talent level was quite low, though. *I think there was one Black. 1 multiracial Black, and the rest White. I would describe most in the 6-8 range, but 2 of the White girls had no business dancing. I seriously asked a dancer if those two girls were the House Moms. *When I first arrived, there appeared to be 5-6 other customers, but before too long, there would only be me and another small group. *

While I waited for my ATF, I did shots with J & J. We had a good time and I got introduced to the DJ, who played my two requests. After my ATF arrived, I had some fun and games with the girls, then went back for a half hour. Paid the $20 bouncer tax, and got to the main event. *Got the whole GFE, and finished completely satisfied. *

After freshening up and returning to my booth, did some more shots with J&J, plus my ATF. *However this party atmosphere attracted a few Klingons. I offered one a seat, her name was A. *A young, tan spinner with light brown hair. I would rate her a 7. *While drinking and hanging out at the booth, she kept getting closer and closer. Despite the fact that my ATF was sitting close and snuggling up, A* starts giving me a Canadian Handy J! *She also whispered into my ear about how much fun we could have in VIP. I had to decline because I had to go, but told her I would return the next day. *

I did return the following day at lunchtime *to meet up with a fellow TUSCL member. Janelle and my ATF were not working, but Juanita and Kristal Lynn (waitress) took care of me. *We all did shots, plus A* joined us. *

There were way more girls on Wednesday, at least 12, maybe 15. *Not all girls did stage shows, so it was hard to tell. The unattractive girls from the previous day were nowhere to be found, and the overall talent level was higher. I would say all 7 and 8s, with two 9s.

After partying for 30 minutes or so, A* and I went back for the main event. *Before heading back, I had negotiated $150 for a warm up dance, DFK, masturbation dance, DATY, CG, K9, BBBJ, and CIM lasting about 20-25 minutes. I said if I got everything, I would tip on top of that. She agreed to these terms. *

Once we started our dance she starts to show her amateur status. She says,"what's DFK?" I explain. *After that she says,"I've never done a masturbation dance, what do I do?" *Me: "Um, dance around and play with your pussy." *After half a song of this I ask her to turn around and do it. Immediately she says,"I hope you don't want to stick it in my butt, I tried it with a small guy, and it really hurt!" Well I just wanted to see her play with herself from behind. *

Okay after that I was ready to fuck, so I grab the condom and say,"let's do it." *I shit you not, she says,"so what's Cow Girl?" *OMFG! *I'm not into amateurs or newbies, and she talked such a good game before, I couldn't believe how much instruction I had to give her. *Anyway A* gets on top and fucks for like half a song, and is completely out of breath. *So she says,"let's switch to doggie so you can cum."*

We switch and I hit it for a song, and she keeps asking for it harder. So I hit it harder. Before the second song is up, she starts saying "you're hurting me", and rushing me to finish, saying we've been back here a long time. So she has us switch to a BJ, but informs me that he doesn't let guys come in her mouth. WTF? *Now I'm getting the bait and switch here. Her technique was way too gentle for a covered BJ, and I end up taking control myself for a chest finale. * I gave her money and asked,"do you remember what I said about a tip?". She did, but just wasn't used to going so long.

Now I understand that some guys don't go very long before finishing, but others will go much longer. I told her up front everything I wanted and how long it might be. * The fact of the matter is that she didn't deliver. *I love BT's, and will be returning, but no more VIP with A. She was a sweet girl, so I'm not throwing her name in this report. (PM me if you want it). But it was a waste of time considering the other available hotties.

I hit the restroom to cleanup, paid my tab, and left. *Any info or intel on Juanita the shot girl? I'd love to tap that!