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Added this girl on Snapchat that I matched with from an app a few yrs ago and I was wondering if why'all could help. Used to be blonde, but now has red hair (also dyes it occasionally), blue or green eyes, probably early 20's, big natural tits, short, 3 star tattoo on her shoulder, another tatt on her thigh. Doesn't really respond anymore but she worked at Bogarts last yr and I see her post at a random club occasionally. Anyone know who I'm talking about and if she's still dancing around here? Tryna get lucky again LOL.
Marelobo Mex
04-27-22, 01:08
Plus I like the bar environment. Getting to drink while ogling a bunch of half to fully naked women is a plus for me. And then finding one I like and enjoying privates is a rush, especially for happy endings. Just hooking up with a stranger to visit me, me visit her, or her jump in my car isn't appealing to me. Plus add the potential for LE involvement and other potential undesirable outcomes makes clubbing an easy win for me. And worst case scenario is I leave with my money still in my pocket. (Getting scammed at club no longer a possibility for me, or at least extremely low. I've experienced them all.).A,
I agree I find the strip club experience fun. I like the atmosphere, and based on my selection process I can get really hot girl that I would have no way of identifying with out sitting and talking to them to determine if I want to take them or not. The key being willing to walkaway money in pocket and junk in your pants.
MM.
Got there about 230. Best line up I have seen since pre covid. Some of the names were stormy, Cassandra, Cecelia and Chloe. Girls were hungry and complained about how slow the week has been. Using that to my favor took Chloe back for one Mr. Franklin for a half and half. If I wasn't in my 50's I would went for round two. Agsin way better line up than two weeks ago.
Got there about 230. Best line up I have seen since pre covid. Some of the names were stormy, Cassandra, Cecelia and Chloe. Girls were hungry and complained about how slow the week has been. Using that to my favor took Chloe back for one Mr. Franklin for a half and half. If I wasn't in my 50's I would went for round two. Agsin way better line up than two weeks ago.I stopped in later in the day. Cassandra must have left early but the rest were still there. I didn't get any dances but it had my eye on Taylor, Cecilia and Aria. One of these days I'm going to have to give Sasha a spin too. If anyone has any experience I would appreciate it.
As I nurse my rum and coke while shaking my head at the parade of yuck, a new girl named Tajah. Very cute smile, tight abs, and nice ass drops over and introduces herself. Says it's her first day and she likes the place so far. I ask her about her dances and she clarifies that she does not give dances. She only does dirty stuff. Quotes me 1 or 1. 5, I say let's roll. We get back to the phone booth and I mention I have the full price of admission but lets see how how the first part goes and I may stick with that depending on how enthusiastic she is, she wastes no time undoes my pants drop to her knees and proceeds to provide a porn star level milking that ranks as one of the best I can recall ever receiving, ended with her swallowing the full load deep into her throat with encouraging eye contact and a well placed thumb in my taint. She stuck arround untill every last drop was gone and thanked me for my cum. I contributed a little extra and will be returning today to wreck the the other end.
As I nurse my rum and coke while shaking my head at the parade of yuck, a new girl named Tajah. Very cute smile, tight abs, and nice ass drops over and introduces herself. Says it's her first day and she likes the place so far. I ask her about her dances and she clarifies that she does not give dances. She only does dirty stuff. Quotes me 1 or 1. 5, I say let's roll. We get back to the phone booth and I mention I have the full price of admission but lets see how how the first part goes and I may stick with that depending on how enthusiastic she is, she wastes no time undoes my pants drop to her knees and proceeds to provide a porn star level milking that ranks as one of the best I can recall ever receiving, ended with her swallowing the full load deep into her throat with encouraging eye contact and a well placed thumb in my taint. She stuck arround untill every last drop was gone and thanked me for my cum. I contributed a little extra and will be returning today to wreck the the other end.When and where is it the best club and time to get a really good looking dancer to VIP with extras it's a long drive and I don't want to waste my time.
Jules Jordan
04-30-22, 23:24
They had at least fourteen dancers with scattered customers. Aria, Cassandra, Chloe, Egypt, Jade, Lonnie, Polly, Stacy, Tatiana, and Taylor were some names. Overall, a decent-looking lineup including various body types, breast sizes, and ethnicities. Listed below are dancers that I've previously sampled. Aunt Flo prevented me from repeating with the dancer that I wanted today.
Cassandra is mid-20's, white, dark hair, B-cup tits, short, and a medium build. She provided two worthwhile sessions here last year.
Lonnie is early-20's, black, dark hair, B-cup tits, slender build, and has tats. She provided a worthwhile session at Subi's day shift earlier this year.
Tatiana is early-30's, back, dark hair, A-cup tits, thin build, and has tats. She provided a worthwhile session here last year.
Taylor is early-30's, white, blonde, enhanced C-cup tits, and a medium build. Despite the first half being covered, she provided a worthwhile session at Player's day shift in 2017.
From afar, a tall white slender dancer with red hair resembled Luna from BT's fame and SuicideGirls. Unfortunately, she didn't go onstage while I was there to get a better look / inquire. Her being the legendary Luna is likely a stretch, although I'm certain many veteran Detroit SC mongers would appreciate confirmation.
SevenSixfive
05-01-22, 00:16
Been trying to get update on penthouse but can't find nothing. Still closed? Plans to open again sometime?
SomeDetroitGuy
05-01-22, 09:22
When and where is it the best club and time to get a really good looking dancer to VIP with extras it's a long drive and I don't want to waste my time.Flight Club consistently has the best looking girls. You will want to go when it isn't super busy (I. E, don't go Friday or Saturday night). I find Sunday late afternoon to be a great time to go if you want to avoid thr crowds.
Pretty much every girl there is willing to do extras for the right price and they all tend to he attractive, slender, younger. Check the forum for detailed reviews there.
You will pay a premium over a club like H8 or Bogarts.
Been trying to get update on penthouse but can't find nothing. Still closed? Plans to open again sometime?Not sure about reopening but it won't matter, none of the Detroit clubs allow VIP.
Incognito1234
05-01-22, 10:19
They had at least fourteen dancers with scattered customers. Aria, Cassandra, Chloe, Egypt, Jade, Lonnie, Polly, Stacy, Tatiana, and Taylor were some names. Overall, a decent-looking lineup including various body types, breast sizes, and ethnicities. Listed below are dancers that I've previously sampled. Aunt Flo prevented me from repeating with the dancer that I wanted today.
Cassandra is mid-20's, white, dark hair, B-cup tits, short, and a medium build. She provided two worthwhile sessions here last year.
Lonnie is early-20's, black, dark hair, B-cup tits, slender build, and has tats. She provided a worthwhile session at Subi's day shift earlier this year.
Tatiana is early-30's, back, dark hair, A-cup tits, thin build, and has tats. She provided a worthwhile session here last year.
Taylor is early-30's, white, blonde, enhanced C-cup tits, and a medium build. Despite the first half being covered, she provided a worthwhile session at Player's day shift in 2017.
From afar, a tall white slender dancer with red hair resembled Luna from BT's fame and SuicideGirls. Unfortunately, she didn't go onstage while I was there to get a better look / inquire. Her being the legendary Luna is likely a stretch, although I'm certain many veteran Detroit SC mongers would appreciate confirmation.Wow! They're all very attractive. If greek was a menu option with any of them, I'd be tempted to make the trip. I haven't been to the Criket since a couple of people posted reports of a manager running a scam situation with one of the dancers. Does anyone remember what I"m talking about? Is that manager still there?
Marelobo Mex
05-01-22, 11:51
Wow! They're all very attractive. If greek was a menu option with any of them, I'd be tempted to make the trip. I haven't been to the Criket since a couple of people posted reports of a manager running a scam situation with one of the dancers. Does anyone remember what I"m talking about? Is that manager still there?Incognito,
I have been to Criket 8 times since that was posted and never had a problem. I make sure to have good conversation with the girl making sure we are aligned before taking her back and that weeds out most of the scammers while they are sitting with me in the main room.
MM.
SomeDetroitGuy
05-01-22, 18:05
Flight Club consistently has the best looking girls. You will want to go when it isn't super busy (I. E, don't go Friday or Saturday night). I find Sunday late afternoon to be a great time to go if you want to avoid thr crowds.
Pretty much every girl there is willing to do extras for the right price and they all tend to he attractive, slender, younger. Check the forum for detailed reviews there.
You will pay a premium over a club like H8 or Bogarts.Apparently they are closed Sunday afternoon. Tried to go over and they weren't open.
MilkMan2484
05-02-22, 00:01
They had at least fourteen dancers with scattered customers. Aria, Cassandra, Chloe, Egypt, Jade, Lonnie, Polly, Stacy, Tatiana, and Taylor were some names. Overall, a decent-looking lineup including various body types, breast sizes, and ethnicities. Listed below are dancers that I've previously sampled. Aunt Flo prevented me from repeating with the dancer that I wanted today.
Cassandra is mid-20's, white, dark hair, B-cup tits, short, and a medium build. She provided two worthwhile sessions here last year.
Lonnie is early-20's, black, dark hair, B-cup tits, slender build, and has tats. She provided a worthwhile session at Subi's day shift earlier this year.
Tatiana is early-30's, back, dark hair, A-cup tits, thin build, and has tats. She provided a worthwhile session here last year.
Taylor is early-30's, white, blonde, enhanced C-cup tits, and a medium build. Despite the first half being covered, she provided a worthwhile session at Player's day shift in 2017.
From afar, a tall white slender dancer with red hair resembled Luna from BT's fame and SuicideGirls. Unfortunately, she didn't go onstage while I was there to get a better look / inquire. Her being the legendary Luna is likely a stretch, although I'm certain many veteran Detroit SC mongers would appreciate confirmation.Very most likely was not the famed Luna from the glory days past. According to her Facebook post this past Thursday she was back in the hospital again.
I'm wondering if anyone frequented BTS back in the 90's. I'm looking for some info on a shot girl / waitress that worked there back then. Thanks in advance.
Feel free to message me for more info on her
That's not the way I read it. I didn't see where he said he will no longer be participating in the forum.No posts for 3 years and your first one back is to defend wise? I think we found more cancer.
Electronman
05-02-22, 09:49
Wow! They're all very attractive. If greek was a menu option with any of them, I'd be tempted to make the trip. I haven't been to the Criket since a couple of people posted reports of a manager running a scam situation with one of the dancers. Does anyone remember what I"m talking about? Is that manager still there?Greek in the clubs is somewhat rare. It would be helpful to share resources, possibly by DM?
I'm wondering if anyone frequented BTS back in the 90's. I'm looking for some info on a shot girl / waitress that worked there back then. Thanks in advance.
Feel free to message me for more info on her25-30 years ago?
25-30 years ago?I guess it's definitely a long shot.
I've been an occasional lurker on this board for a while because I sometimes visit Detroit from Chicago for work. I'd mostly visit the board five or six years ago when I needed to know whether Flight Club or Penthouse club was slightly better that week, though Hustler had a moment when it was pretty awesome.
I've been in Detroit less the last few years. My last few trips were to Flight Club and it was disappointing. Slow. I'm really only interested in girls that look like they could be college girls, fit and white or Asian. I think in 2021 I was there and a pretty hot girl let me fuck her for $300 but she was extremely not into it. I don't know her name. I never know anyone's name. It was probably Cinnamon or something like that.
I've read some good things about BTs here. I'd never been and I was staying in Dearborn, so I thought I'd try it out. I am done with BTs. I was done with it the minute I walked in. It was fairly busy, but all the girls seemed really down market. It started badly, it tailed off a little in the middle and the less said about the end of my time at BTs, the better. I would not recommend anyone go to BTs if you are interested in paying to be near attractive women. It was busy, but more isn't better when it's bad already.
Posts here led me to believe that FC was back and I went there around 10:00 and it certainly appears to be. There were three eights that I had my eye on all three stopped by to say "hi" and I sure wish that I had taken one of them upstairs at the beginning of the night. There were two or three other girls who were "stripper hot" but had far, far too much plastic surgery for my taste. One of them waved her eye stalks at me in an alluring fashion, but I said I was waiting for someone. There were two or three large groups of guys in the club who were smoking cigars and literally making it rain pretty much non-stop. A sign of a healthy strip club ecosystem, I suppose. After about two hours there, a petite, charismatic, very pretty 9 danced who I realized was someone I had to take upstairs. I moved to a spot on the bar near the pole and gave her a $10 and said, "see me about going upstairs later." She gave me a big smile and said she would come right back. Right after that a guy walked up and gave her a $10 and said, "My wife and I both love you and want to go upstairs with you. " And then a third guy did basically the same thing. At five stages, she must have made $150 just from guys who asked her to see them after her dance. I waited around to look for her for about 30 minutes and she was nowhere to be seen. Neither were my three backup eights. A disaster. I decided to head to the Landing Strip.
I'd been to the Landing strip twice on my last trip and each time saw a bunch of 6's and 7's but a legit 9 was there both visits. I went back around 12:45 AM hoping for the same deal. No dice. It's not as fun being middle-aged, dumb, and full of cum. There were quite a few girls who looked like they might be doable if they had one fewer kid and also it was 2017. "Wait! Is she interesting. Nope." The Landing Strip should be called The Blowjob Club. The culture among the dancers here seems to be to approach me and offer a blow job. I like it.
I was super horny at this point and there was no one I was interested in. I was just about to leave when a pretty blonde, maybe late 20's with huge but not-very-perky tits approached me at the bar. Her name might be Arabella. After chatting she offered a blow job--as is the custom--for $300. I said that was too much. She eventually agreed to $200 and I did too. I'm sure it's overpaying, but I wear a $7,000 watch and I feel like a dumbass haggling over $25 when she obviously can tell I can afford it. We went downstairs, I gave the bouncer $20. She put a cover on, which I was disappointed in but I realized I should have negotiated before I was in the little room. She gave about as good a BJ as I could expect with a cover. She asked for a tip, I declined and I went back to my hotel, reminiscing about the many strategic errors I had made during the evening.
(We served in the Corps together). He said that in most states solicitation and prostitution is illegal. However, if someone films content, it is a protected activity (Ala pornography) under the first amendment. So as long as you or the provider film's it (even if money changes hands for a "sitting fee") it's all legal.
JackOfClubs
05-02-22, 18:32
I've been a reminiscing about the many strategic errors I had made during the evening.Well at least you learned to avoid BT's in the future.
I've been an occasional lurker on this board for a while because I sometimes visit Detroit from Chicago for work. I'd mostly visit the board five or six years ago when I needed to know whether Flight Club or Penthouse club was slightly better that week, though Hustler had a moment when it was pretty awesome.
I've been in Detroit less the last few years. My last few trips were to Flight Club and it was disappointing. Slow. I'm really only interested in girls that look like they could be college girls, fit and white or Asian. I think in 2021 I was there and a pretty hot girl let me fuck her for $300 but she was extremely not into it. I don't know her name. I never know anyone's name. It was probably Cinnamon or something like that.
I've read some good things about BTs here. I'd never been and I was staying in Dearborn, so I thought I'd try it out. I am done with BTs. I was done with it the minute I walked in. It was fairly busy, but all the girls seemed really down market. It started badly, it tailed off a little in the middle and the less said about the end of my time at BTs, the better. I would not recommend anyone go to BTs if you are interested in paying to be near attractive women. It was busy, but more isn't better when it's bad already.
Posts here led me to believe that FC was back and I went there around 10:00 and it certainly appears to be. There were three eights that I had my eye on all three stopped by to say "hi" and I sure wish that I had taken one of them upstairs at the beginning of the night. There were two or three other girls who were "stripper hot" but had far, far too much plastic surgery for my taste. One of them waved her eye stalks at me in an alluring fashion, but I said I was waiting for someone. There were two or three large groups of guys in the club who were smoking cigars and literally making it rain pretty much non-stop. A sign of a healthy strip club ecosystem, I suppose. After about two hours there, a petite, charismatic, very pretty 9 danced who I realized was someone I had to take upstairs. I moved to a spot on the bar near the pole and gave her a $10 and said, "see me about going upstairs later." She gave me a big smile and said she would come right back. Right after that a guy walked up and gave her a $10 and said, "My wife and I both love you and want to go upstairs with you. " And then a third guy did basically the same thing. At five stages, she must have made $150 just from guys who asked her to see them after her dance. I waited around to look for her for about 30 minutes and she was nowhere to be seen. Neither were my three backup eights. A disaster. I decided to head to the Landing Strip.
I'd been to the Landing strip twice on my last trip and each time saw a bunch of 6's and 7's but a legit 9 was there both visits. I went back around 12:45 AM hoping for the same deal. No dice. It's not as fun being middle-aged, dumb, and full of cum. There were quite a few girls who looked like they might be doable if they had one fewer kid and also it was 2017. "Wait! Is she interesting. Nope." The Landing Strip should be called The Blowjob Club. The culture among the dancers here seems to be to approach me and offer a blow job. I like it.
I was super horny at this point and there was no one I was interested in. I was just about to leave when a pretty blonde, maybe late 20's with huge but not-very-perky tits approached me at the bar. Her name might be Arabella. After chatting she offered a blow job--as is the custom--for $300. I said that was too much. She eventually agreed to $200 and I did too. I'm sure it's overpaying, but I wear a $7,000 watch and I feel like a dumbass haggling over $25 when she obviously can tell I can afford it. We went downstairs, I gave the bouncer $20. She put a cover on, which I was disappointed in but I realized I should have negotiated before I was in the little room. She gave about as good a BJ as I could expect with a cover. She asked for a tip, I declined and I went back to my hotel, reminiscing about the many strategic errors I had made during the evening.LS is my favorite stop days or nights. BTW, you will not find BBBJ at most clubs unless you are willing to fork out 300 minimum and many will not even do for that. Apparently some nasty throat yogurt has turned many dancers off. Cover is the norm.
(We served in the Corps together). He said that in most states solicitation and prostitution is illegal. However, if someone films content, it is a protected activity (Ala pornography) under the first amendment. So as long as you or the provider film's it (even if money changes hands for a "sitting fee") it's all legal.Might want to make sure before you film.
Registration and Regulation: Pornography is regulated by the government. Porn production companies, often called porn studios, must comply with laws that allow government involvement in the process of production and distribution of porn magazines and movies. This government regulation includes requiring pornography companies to keep a custodian of records. The custodian of records keeps vital information on the porn actors, including the age of the actors, current HIV results of the actors, and the income and business records of the actors, producers, agents, etc. (other legal requirements apply.
I've been an occasional lurker on this board for a while because I sometimes visit Detroit from Chicago for work. I'd mostly visit the board five or six years ago when I needed to know whether Flight Club or Penthouse club was slightly better that week, though Hustler had a moment when it was pretty awesome.......and I went back to my hotel, reminiscing about the many strategic errors I had made during the evening.Great report. I was in FC about a month ago and the type of talent that you like was there in abundance, 8 and above, but there wasn't much VIP activity going on.
I'm wondering if anyone frequented BTS back in the 90's. I'm looking for some info on a shot girl / waitress that worked there back then. Thanks in advance.
Feel free to message me for more info on herNo older guys out there from the heyday at bts. 90's early 2000's.
No older guys out there from the heyday at bts. 90's early 2000's.Yeah, but I can hardly remember the name of the many dozens of strippers I've been with, let alone a waitress or shotgirl, unless she became a dancer that I nailed.
As I write this, I now remember the blonde who worked days and did anal. Paris.
I'm wondering if anyone frequented BTS back in the 90's. I'm looking for some info on a shot girl / waitress that worked there back then. Thanks in advance.
Feel free to message me for more info on herExactly what info are you looking for and what's your plan once you finally catch up to her?
I know if a chick, that I didn't even know her name, let alone anything else about her other than where she worked in the 90's, approached me 20 plus years later trying to remind me who she is, I would totally freak out.
And that freak out would occur even if she looked exactly as she did 25 years ago. But since we know she will not look that way (and neither would I), I'll probably have an aneurysm!
Not to be THAT GUY (but I will), you have asked for info that NOBODY can help you with. You asked for info on a waitress working BTs in the 90's! No height, no description, not even club shift, definitely no name. You didn't even put forth enough effort for somebody to find a waitress working today, let alone 25 years ago.
Good luck with that.
P.S. Exactly what info are you looking for and what's your plan once you finally catch up to her?
Nice!! I stopped in during daytime. Met a girl that supposedly usually works nights. Literally looks like McKayla Maroney, the Olympic gymnast known for her RBF. Had a great trip in back for a little oral fun for $.
As I nurse my rum and coke while shaking my head at the parade of yuck, a new girl named Tajah. Very cute smile, tight abs, and nice ass drops over and introduces herself. Says it's her first day and she likes the place so far. I ask her about her dances and she clarifies that she does not give dances. She only does dirty stuff. Quotes me 1 or 1. 5, I say let's roll. We get back to the phone booth and I mention I have the full price of admission but lets see how how the first part goes and I may stick with that depending on how enthusiastic she is, she wastes no time undoes my pants drop to her knees and proceeds to provide a porn star level milking that ranks as one of the best I can recall ever receiving, ended with her swallowing the full load deep into her throat with encouraging eye contact and a well placed thumb in my taint. She stuck arround untill every last drop was gone and thanked me for my cum. I contributed a little extra and will be returning today to wreck the the other end.
ArmySexy77
05-03-22, 19:24
(We served in the Corps together). He said that in most states solicitation and prostitution is illegal. However, if someone films content, it is a protected activity (Ala pornography) under the first amendment. So as long as you or the provider film's it (even if money changes hands for a "sitting fee") it's all legal.So every provider should just have a camera running and say, look I'm just making a porno movie, I'm a STAR!
Exactly what info are you looking for and what's your plan once you finally catch up to her?
I know if a chick, that I didn't even know her name, let alone anything else about her other than where she worked in the 90's, approached me 20 plus years later trying to remind me who she is, I would totally freak out.
And that freak out would occur even if she looked exactly as she did 25 years ago. But since we know she will not look that way (and neither would I), I'll probably have an aneurysm!
Not to be THAT GUY (but I will), you have asked for info that NOBODY can help you with. You asked for info on a waitress working BTs in the 90's! No height, no description, not even club shift, definitely no name. You didn't even put forth enough effort for somebody to find a waitress working today, let alone 25 years ago.
Good luck with that.
P.S. Exactly what info are you looking for and what's your plan once you finally catch up to her?I don't want to put her personal info on the open board because it's her real name that's why I said to private message me for more info. Thanks.
TokyoJump1
05-04-22, 20:05
I see that Traffic Light in Macomb County now says permanently closed, which brings down the last strip club in Macomb County. I remember Jon-Jon's being around as well in Warren.
How many strip clubs was in Macomb County a long time ago? Was it kind of common in Macomb County, or was Wayne County always the go-to place for Strip Clubs?
I see that Traffic Light in Macomb County now says permanently closed, which brings down the last strip club in Macomb County. I remember Jon-Jon's being around as well in Warren.
How many strip clubs was in Macomb County a long time ago? Was it kind of common in Macomb County, or was Wayne County always the go-to place for Strip Clubs?Wayne County is going to be the go-to regardless, both past and present, based on having a larger number of clubs covering multiple ethnicities.
I've never even considered Macomb a haven for clubs.
I'm wondering if anyone frequented BTS back in the 90's. I'm looking for some info on a shot girl / waitress that worked there back then. Thanks in advance.
Feel free to message me for more info on herSign up at Ancestry then just wait for the kids to contact you.
CincMassage
05-06-22, 03:02
Visiting Detroit after 5 yrs. I used to like Coliseum and Players. Are they still on? Has there been any change in the action?
Visiting Detroit after 5 yrs. I used to like Coliseum and Players. Are they still on? Has there been any change in the action?Detroit banned VIP areas a few years ago. If you are looking for extras, Detroit is not the place. Try the neighboring burbs. Search the keywords in this thread if you need more clarification.
Incognito1234
05-06-22, 18:59
Incognito,
I have been to Criket 8 times since that was posted and never had a problem. I make sure to have good conversation with the girl making sure we are aligned before taking her back and that weeds out most of the scammers while they are sitting with me in the main room.
MM.Thank you, MM and to all for the information on the Criket.
In regard to scammers, I'm not going to get into this too much, for certain reasons, but I got burnt at Henry's North on night shift a couple of weeks ago.
It's a bit embarrassing to admit this, especially after being a veteran of the clubs for so many years. Anyway, I made the rookie mistake of paying a girl up front. She was attractive, we had good conversation and when we went back, I got lulled into paying her up front. As we were getting into things, she made an excuse to leave the booth and would "be right back". You can guess the rest. Yes, there was heated conversation and a lot of drama and I haven't been back since. One, because I don't want to see that girl up there again and two, I'm pissed at myself and don't want to go back for a while.
Thank you, MM and to all for the information on the Criket.
In regard to scammers, I'm not going to get into this too much, for certain reasons, but I got burnt at Henry's North on night shift a couple of weeks ago.
It's a bit embarrassing to admit this, especially after being a veteran of the clubs for so many years. Anyway, I made the rookie mistake of paying a girl up front. She was attractive, we had good conversation and when we went back, I got lulled into paying her up front. As we were getting into things, she made an excuse to leave the booth and would "be right back". You can guess the rest. Yes, there was heated conversation and a lot of drama and I haven't been back since. One, because I don't want to see that girl up there again and two, I'm pissed at myself and don't want to go back for a while.Can't stand a scammer, man!
And it makes no sense, either. These chicks aren't smart enough to understand there is more money in the long run by giving a patron a positive experience. I've given the same stable of strippers my money for upteen years because they treat me right on each occasion. The scammer gets that money once and, of course, you're never dealing with her again. Heck, a single chick can make a patron take their entire business to another club!
Incognito1234
05-07-22, 02:26
Can't stand a scammer, man!
And it makes no sense, either. These chicks aren't smart enough to understand there is more money in the long run by giving a patron a positive experience. I've given the same stable of strippers my money for upteen years because they treat me right on each occasion. The scammer gets that money once and, of course, you're never dealing with her again. Heck, a single chick can make a patron take their entire business to another club!I couldn't agree more!
She was new to me. I'd never seen her up there before and that should have been the biggest red flag not to pay up front. She was a petite bleached blonde in her late 20's or early 30's. Which I know is a pretty generic description for a stripper. As far as what you've said about being treated right, I don't know how many times I've had the same conversation with a girl about the longevity issue. My speech is and has always been "You might get $200 or whatever from a guy once but then he never comes back to see you again BUT if you give a guy a good experience for a good price, over time, you make thousands from him".
Situations like these make me appreciate the regulars even more. We all know how it is. Once you establish a repeat business relationship with a dancer, it's so much easier for both of you. She knows what you like and how you like it and that she's getting paid without drama or hassle. One of the biggest lessons that I learned out of this mess is that it's best to stick with known commodities.
Pussylicker2
05-07-22, 12:06
I couldn't agree more!
She was new to me. I'd never seen her up there before and that should have been the biggest red flag not to pay up front.I don't pay until the deed is done. If you pay first, and all goes well so you return, you'll always be expected to prepay. Sometimes I have to abort the mission because she insists on prepayment. That's OK.
So every provider should just have a camera running and say, look I'm just making a porno movie, I'm a STAR!Peetty much.
DonnyBrasco
05-08-22, 07:21
As I nurse my rum and coke while shaking my head at the parade of yuck, a new girl named Tajah. Very cute smile, tight abs, and nice ass drops over and introduces herself. Says it's her first day and she likes the place so far. I ask her about her dances and she clarifies that she does not give dances. She only does dirty stuff. Quotes me 1 or 1. 5, I say let's roll. We get back to the phone booth and I mention I have the full price of admission but lets see how how the first part goes and I may stick with that depending on how enthusiastic she is, she wastes no time undoes my pants drop to her knees and proceeds to provide a porn star level milking that ranks as one of the best I can recall ever receiving, ended with her swallowing the full load deep into her throat with encouraging eye contact and a well placed thumb in my taint. She stuck arround untill every last drop was gone and thanked me for my cum. I contributed a little extra and will be returning today to wreck the the other end.What day / shift did you see her?
I went there once a few years back before COVID hit. I really liked the atmosphere. There were several attractive dancers but the prices for action in the back room seemed really high. Has anyone tried it lately? It is a long drive for me, so I hate to spend driving an hour each way if there is no action.
I don't want to put her personal info on the open board because it's her real name that's why I said to private message me for more info. Thanks.The more relevant question would be "what's your plan once you finally catch up to her?" It is entirely possible that this woman does not want to be found or contacted by anyone from the time she was working.
I arrived about 8 pm, only a few dancers when I got there but more came in. No real young dancers, but a nice lineup mix of white and black dancers. The name I remember were Jade, Sky, Salena, Cybill, Cassandra, Capri, Mistique, Chasity and Brittany. I went back with Cybill for half and half, I will repeat. If Mystique would have been there earlier I would have waited for her as I have seen her before.
After my session I ordered a steak, it was good, I have never had the food, will repeat on food too.
Friday night, near midnight after attending a gathering I decided to take a ride to Inkster. Part of me said that it's late, so don't bother, other part said. Hey you never know.
I arrived to an uncrowded lot at 12:30, went in and grabbed a spot at the bar. Try as I might, I couldn't lower my standards enough to find anything appealing. There weren't many dancers, and not going to list them as they were so unappealing. I saw all of them during a finale. I finished my beer, then left.
Took a ride down Michigan as I was hungry and went to Southwest. On my way I saw no walkers on the Avenue. Stopped at Duly's and had a coney. So that ended up being the only bright spot.
Everything is so hit and miss lately that I hesitate to go, be it escorts or strip clubs. In mid-April I tried Remy at H8 and, good looking, decent body, mechanical service. There are supply chain issues everywhere.
I went there once a few years back before COVID hit. I really liked the atmosphere. There were several attractive dancers but the prices for action in the back room seemed really high. Has anyone tried it lately? It is a long drive for me, so I hate to spend driving an hour each way if there is no action.I went before COVID hit as well. Always had a good time. I usually went earlier in the day when it's slow so I could get more bang for my buck.
JackOfClubs
05-09-22, 18:49
Friday night, near midnight after attending a gathering I decided to take a ride to Inkster. Part of me said that it's late, so don't bother, other part said. Hey you never know.
I arrived to an uncrowded lot at 12:30, went in and grabbed a spot at the bar. Try as I might, I couldn't lower my standards enough to find anything appealing. There weren't many dancers, and not going to list them as they were so unappealing. I saw all of them during a finale. I finished my beer, then left.
Took a ride down Michigan as I was hungry and went to Southwest. On my way I saw no walkers on the Avenue. Stopped at Duly's and had a coney. So that ended up being the only bright spot.
Everything is so hit and miss lately that I hesitate to go, be it escorts or strip clubs. In mid-April I tried Remy at H8 and, good looking, decent body, mechanical service. There are supply chain issues everywhere.Now more than ever is time to stick with your regulars, the grass is not greener on the other side.
Now more than ever is time to stick with your regulars, the grass is not greener on the other side.I have no regulars left! That's the problem. The quantity and quality of girls are an all-time low.
I have no regulars left! That's the problem. The quantity and quality of girls are an all-time low.The issue is that their are a whole new wave of new strippers entering the profession an they are over valuating the market cause A they don't know the value an B there new so guys will pay more cause they haven't seen them before. Just wait it out fellas. They'll fall inline.
Jules Jordan
05-09-22, 20:28
I arrived about 8 pm, only a few dancers when I got there but more came in. No real young dancers, but a nice lineup mix of white and black dancers. The name I remember were Jade, Sky, Salena, Cybill, Cassandra, Capri, Mistique, Chasity and Brittany. I went back with Cybill for half and half, I will repeat. If Mystique would have been there earlier I would have waited for her as I have seen her before.
After my session I ordered a steak, it was good, I have never had the food, will repeat on food too.Nice report. I stopped by SC on day shift over the weekend. They had fourteen dancers with not many customers. Some names were Cassandra, Chasity, Chloe, Cybil, Elise, Fantasy, Mystique, Sebastian, Sky, Stormy, and Star (the tall blonde one). Not a bad looking lineup including an even split between black and white talent. I've enjoyed Cybil and Elise previously at H8 North. My plan was to repeat with both of them today, but Cybil wore me out. She used a toy during our session to spice things up. Cybil is late-30's (I think), white, dark red hair, A-cup tits, and a petite build. Elise is mid-20's, black / white mix, dark hair, B-cup tits, slender build, nice backside, and has tats. Total damage today was 120 for two beers, VIP fee, and dances.
The issue is that their are a whole new wave of new strippers entering the profession an they are over valuating the market cause A they don't know the value an B there new so guys will pay more cause they haven't seen them before. Just wait it out fellas. They'll fall inline.The problem is that there are no new waves, and very few dancers in the majority of the clubs. There are fewer dancers, period.
Look at it this way; Detroit strip clubs have closed or are practically empty. Penthouse, the biggest Detroit club is shuttered; they used to have 30,40, 50 dancers per shift. Where did all of those dancers go? They left the industry.
I read for the past several years from misguided, low-thinking mongers of how good things would be because the Detroit club dancers were going to flock to clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, Lincoln Park creating competition and driving down prices with bountiful pussy for all!!
It never happened. Clubs in the burbs have less than half of the dancers per shift than they had 6, 8, 10 years ago. The quality and quantity is the worst it has ever been, and I've been at this since 81. Now prior tonthe early aughts, extras were pretty rare, as there weren't private VIP rooms until about 2004. At the Hamilton clubs there were extras out in the open, but even then it was not terribly common. I got kicked out of H8 and in the early 2000's because another dancer told the bouncer that we were fucking.
So no, your assertion is complete horse shit that "they'll fall inline" (sic). If I had a nickel for each time that I've read that faulty, bullshit logic, devoid of evidence, I would drink for free in strip clubs until I die.
I stopped by H8 tonight around 7 and the vibe was pretty good, though there was initially a shortage of dancers. I was almost frustrated, but not too long after, the crowd thinned out and all of a sudden it was no problem finding the time of most any girl you liked (though I sadly missed the chance to chat with the very much in-demand Pixie who was absolutely gorgeous). I did have fun, though, with other dancers such as Cat, Sin, and one other petite Black girl who was very amorous and delightful -- any of whom I'd be glad to see again. Waitresses friendly and overall a nice evening.
Have either aged out, or moved away to greener pastures. Money isn't really being earned on the stage any more. Due to the limited locations, extras are slowly drying up as well. Soon we will be left with one of two choices: travelling to where the action is, or private parties. I used to have a fuck ton of dancer's numbers. I've gotten married and aged out of the game. My brother keeps asking me to throw one last party for his son's 18 birthday. I'd have to hit the few clubs left to rustle up dancers and to be honest, I don't know if I'm still up to it.
The problem is that there are no new waves, and very few dancers in the majority of the clubs. There are fewer dancers, period.
Look at it this way; Detroit strip clubs have closed or are practically empty. Penthouse, the biggest Detroit club is shuttered; they used to have 30,40, 50 dancers per shift. Where did all of those dancers go? They left the industry.
I read for the past several years from misguided, low-thinking mongers of how good things would be because the Detroit club dancers were going to flock to clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, Lincoln Park creating competition and driving down prices with bountiful pussy for all!!
It never happened. Clubs in the burbs have less than half of the dancers per shift than they had 6, 8, 10 years ago. The quality and quantity is the worst it has ever been, and I've been at this since 81. Now prior tonthe early aughts, extras were pretty rare, as there weren't private VIP rooms until about 2004. At the Hamilton clubs there were extras out in the open, but even then it was not terribly common. I got kicked out of H8 and in the early 2000's because another dancer told the bouncer that we were fucking.
So no, your assertion is complete horse shit that "they'll fall inline" (sic). If I had a nickel for each time that I've read that faulty, bullshit logic, devoid of evidence, I would drink for free in strip clubs until I die.
The problem is that there are no new waves, and very few dancers in the majority of the clubs. There are fewer dancers, period.
Look at it this way; Detroit strip clubs have closed or are practically empty. Penthouse, the biggest Detroit club is shuttered; they used to have 30,40, 50 dancers per shift. Where did all of those dancers go? They left the industry.
I read for the past several years from misguided, low-thinking mongers of how good things would be because the Detroit club dancers were going to flock to clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, Lincoln Park creating competition and driving down prices with bountiful pussy for all!!
It never happened. Clubs in the burbs have less than half of the dancers per shift than they had 6, 8, 10 years ago. The quality and quantity is the worst it has ever been, and I've been at this since 81. Now prior tonthe early aughts, extras were pretty rare, as there weren't private VIP rooms until about 2004. At the Hamilton clubs there were extras out in the open, but even then it was not terribly common. I got kicked out of H8 and in the early 2000's because another dancer told the bouncer that we were fucking.
So no, your assertion is complete horse shit that "they'll fall inline" (sic). If I had a nickel for each time that I've read that faulty, bullshit logic, devoid of evidence, I would drink for free in strip clubs until I die.Got to be the Only Fans revolution.
Wondering if it's the same in other major cities. Detroit (Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus) still has value, where else can you get FS with a cute girl for say $300.
The problem is that there are no new waves, and very few dancers in the majority of the clubs. There are fewer dancers, period.
Look at it this way; Detroit strip clubs have closed or are practically empty. Penthouse, the biggest Detroit club is shuttered; they used to have 30,40, 50 dancers per shift. Where did all of those dancers go? They left the industry.
I read for the past several years from misguided, low-thinking mongers of how good things would be because the Detroit club dancers were going to flock to clubs in Dearborn, Inkster, Romulus, Lincoln Park creating competition and driving down prices with bountiful pussy for all!!
It never happened. Clubs in the burbs have less than half of the dancers per shift than they had 6, 8, 10 years ago. The quality and quantity is the worst it has ever been, and I've been at this since 81. Now prior tonthe early aughts, extras were pretty rare, as there weren't private VIP rooms until about 2004. At the Hamilton clubs there were extras out in the open, but even then it was not terribly common. I got kicked out of H8 and in the early 2000's because another dancer told the bouncer that we were fucking.
So no, your assertion is complete horse shit that "they'll fall inline" (sic). If I had a nickel for each time that I've read that faulty, bullshit logic, devoid of evidence, I would drink for free in strip clubs until I die.
Got to be the Only Fans revolution.A handful at best. Tons of girls have Only fans accounts, but few make any money at it. Those who do are exceptional in both their marketing and production values. To make the couple hundred to several hundred a night that an average to above-average dancer makes, takes many more hours than the 7 hours that they spend in a club.
The A / V equipment that the good earners use, costs thousands; only the best-looking dancers with above-average intelligence are likely to have the resources to make a good channel. The learning curve to excel at only fans is steep. Other than the girls or couples who have thousand of subscribers or followers, most usebit for supplemental income, not primary. It takes a lot of time filming, then editing their efforts.
It's the same with cam models. Lots of time learning the ropes, and lots of money to have good A / V equipment. Lots of time sitting on cam to empty rooms of viewers, uess they spend lots of time on Twitter and other social media building their brand.
So, how many Detroit dancers do you think have the wherewithal to do that? I've found very few Detroit dancers with enough of a presence and appearance to attract a large following. To succeed at camming and only fans takes a lot of dedication to their craft. If you listen to most mongers here, they maintain that strippers are lazy and irresponsible. Do you think that those traits lend themselves well to be entrepreneurs innthe digital marketplace?
Let's go with Occam's Razor for an answer. They have left the industry for other jobs, most likely not as lucrative, but probably more stable than dancing.
TDisregard
05-11-22, 10:29
I'm staying in Westland for a few days for work. Made a day trip to a couple spots in the area to see what was what. Hit Bogarts at 3 pm, had 1 beer and bolted. Nothing there looked like it was worth staying for. Went across the street to FC. They probably had 12 girls working at 3:45. Sat at the bar upstairs and watched a good mix of talent with a couple of hot ones in the lineup. A cute, thick, young white girl stopped by and we chatted for about 20 minutes before she mentioned going in the back (I think she said her name was Noel). She offered services starting at 3 bills for a BJ. I nearly spit out my Coors light, she would not negotiate so I politely declined and finished my beer. Left there and headed to H8 and was I grossed out at the Hobbits that were working the stage. Left after about 15 minutes. No luck. I'll make another trip out on a different day / time.
If compare to say the TV medium. First there was cable and the industrious came up with descramblers; then there was satellite and someone learned how to crack the cards; then there was internet TV, streaming all of the paid channels for free. Each time the industry shut down the industrious, someone found a way to skirt the issue. Thrre are a few private parties thrown here and there. There usually those with the drive or those with the resources, but the two rarely meet. I spoke to a young man who had both the drive and the resources, but he had no ingenuity. He said his parties would be raided. I told him to open a private club (members only) that had a bachelor part every other week. NEVER EVER SELL LIQUOR! (You need a liquor license and regulation for that.) don't charge a tip out for tge girls, because then yhey need a license to dance. (But for the love of god, ALWAYS check their I'd). Sell food, water and even stupid shit like Silly String or whipped cream in a can to make up the costs. Charge a "rental fee" for private rooms. It's up to the planner to decide on security. You never heaed about my parties because I didn't allow cell phones. My security consisted of off law enforcement friends (had a DPD, County Sheriff and Fbi agent. Anytime police showed up we were just a bunch of friends at a wild bachelor party). The Union Hall we used to use was torn down when I was out west. And to be honest, I'm a little to old to be club hopping to secure the talent for the parties. But I would tell the girls that I encouraged each guy to bring a minimum of $300 cash with a minimum of 100 guys ($that's $30 k to start) and that it was up to them to get as much of that as they could, any way that they could. Get in good with the girls (pick one to make the others jealous) and offer to split a raffle for her to go in a private room with the winner. The girls want money; the guys want ass; if you facilitate it, everybody has fun and some make some money. As word of mouth spreads, the girls became competitive and upped their game, which in turn brought out more money. I alqays argued that once a month was more than enough for the parties but greed prevailed. But if anyone is interested in more details, hit me up. I'm always willing to share knowledge.
There are easier and legal ways to make money.
There are easier and legal ways to make money.IMHO, stripping (or other lines of work along the lines of, I. E. * IS easy. And last check, it's legal, too.
I won't claim to know why the scene quality and quantity has decreased. But I think a part of it is as simple as the profession not being seen as the "thing" to do. Before social media blew up, if a chick was looking to make a lot a cash in a short period of time with minimal talent, stripping was among the first things that entered the mind to do.
Now, a chick see someone on Youtube doing a "try-on" haul and advertsing for fashionova. Just putting on different outfits and seeing that as an avenue to get paid. Or they want to do taxes or real estate or * or whatever the "in" hustle is.
And some of this can be done near or from home.
In case of the Detroit clubs losing VIP and some expecting they would flock to other clubs. How far do you think the average dancer is willing to travel on a regular basis? Definitely a factor. Heck, it's a factor for me as a patron and I don't even go out much!
Incognito1234
05-12-22, 11:13
IMHO, stripping (or other lines of work along the lines of, I. E. * IS easy. And last check, it's legal, too.
I won't claim to know why the scene quality and quantity has decreased. But I think a part of it is as simple as the profession not being seen as the "thing" to do. Before social media blew up, if a chick was looking to make a lot a cash in a short period of time with minimal talent, stripping was among the first things that entered the mind to do.
Now, a chick see someone on Youtube doing a "try-on" haul and advertsing for fashionova. Just putting on different outfits and seeing that as an avenue to get paid. Or they want to do taxes or real estate or * or whatever the "in" hustle is.
And some of this can be done near or from home.
In case of the Detroit clubs losing VIP and some expecting they would flock to other clubs. How far do you think the average dancer is willing to travel on a regular basis? Definitely a factor. Heck, it's a factor for me as a patron and I don't even go out much!+1.
Distance is a factor for me, in regard to finding entertainment. While I frequent Henry's and Bogart's, I've looked at the massage parlor ads and have wanting to try out a couple, both in Jackson and Toledo but the thing is distance. I'm downriver and from where I am, Jackson is about an hour away and Toledo is about 45 minutes. So, I could travel 20 minutes or so to places I know or at least double that time or more, going elsewhere.
In regard to dancers, I do know that some of them travel to get to the club. One very talented performer at Henry's North that nights, drives in from Warren and the problem dancer that I got duped into paying up front told me that she drove down from Flint. Both of them said that they do it because the money makes it worth it.
IMHO, stripping (or other lines of work along the lines of, I. E. * IS easy. And last check, it's legal, too.
I won't claim to know why the scene quality and quantity has decreased. But I think a part of it is as simple as the profession not being seen as the "thing" to do. Before social media blew up, if a chick was looking to make a lot a cash in a short period of time with minimal talent, stripping was among the first things that entered the mind to do.
Now, a chick see someone on Youtube doing a "try-on" haul and advertsing for fashionova. Just putting on different outfits and seeing that as an avenue to get paid. Or they want to do taxes or real estate or * or whatever the "in" hustle is.
And some of this can be done near or from home.
In case of the Detroit clubs losing VIP and some expecting they would flock to other clubs. How far do you think the average dancer is willing to travel on a regular basis? Definitely a factor. Heck, it's a factor for me as a patron and I don't even go out much!Over the years many dancers told me that they danced at clubs farther from where they live, or grew up; less chance of being seen by someone they know. Of course much of that has changed since the advent of social media. Girls from Warren, Clinton Twp, etc would bypass Coliseum, Players, Tycoons to dance in Inkster, Dearborn, Romulus, Lincoln Park.
Another one is that groups of girls would travel together; girls from Flint or Saginaw would dance in Inkster, Dearborn, etc. , stay a few nights in shared hotel, then return home.
Back in the day there was a strong cadre of girls traveling to Bogarts from Brooklyn (Jackson). They made way more money in Detroit area than Jackson clubs. The big difference being that Jackson clubs weren't known for extras and well, you know the rest.
Of course the biggest motivator was probably earnings potential. Same reason that mongers flock to clubs that offer potential for more and better extras.
This is the current reality. If you want a good looking girl pay 300 to 500 at FC, or you can have a Hobbit at H8 for 100 to 200, but then again there are people who got lucky.
I'm staying in Westland for a few days for work. Made a day trip to a couple spots in the area to see what was what. Hit Bogarts at 3 pm, had 1 beer and bolted. Nothing there looked like it was worth staying for. Went across the street to FC. They probably had 12 girls working at 3:45. Sat at the bar upstairs and watched a good mix of talent with a couple of hot ones in the lineup. A cute, thick, young white girl stopped by and we chatted for about 20 minutes before she mentioned going in the back (I think she said her name was Noel). She offered services starting at 3 bills for a BJ. I nearly spit out my Coors light, she would not negotiate so I politely declined and finished my beer. Left there and headed to H8 and was I grossed out at the Hobbits that were working the stage. Left after about 15 minutes. No luck. I'll make another trip out on a different day / time.
Got to H8 at 7:30, dead for about 15 minutes then picked up a little. By far the best looking one in there was Kat, who sat next to me at the bar. Chatted a bit and then went back to the VIP. Paid troll tax and then started with a lap dance before she quickly asked if I wanted more. We settled on $200 everything. Didn't negotiate a cover for the BJ and she wanted one on to start for the BJ, oh well. Went to doggy and then she rode me to finish. Was a bit of a rusher but a bit my fault since I was so horny I didn't negotiate well. Still got the job done.
Member #6410
05-12-22, 22:02
Looks like it is time again for another trip to the Detroit area for me. Ohio has not only gotten stale as far as the dancer scene is concerned but it is downright depressing. I haven't been in the game long, maybe a couple of years and have had my fair share of stupid mistakes and overpayments (report about 3 weeks ago incoming is one of these). I'm from the cap city area of Ohio and anywhere I drive to to try and get some decent play ITC is a hell of a hike. Only areas I can get extras in my state are 1. 5-2 hours away (Akron and Youngstown) with absolute abysmal quality compared to Michigan. Youngstown has Royalty Room which is a BJ shop where most dancers easily break the 175 lb mark or they look like the meth pipe has destroyed all of their teeth. Akron has a good number of dive bar clubs with dive bar prices but the quality is less than Bogart's or Henry's. It's rough down here for sure. Give me a place I can find an alright supply of white, tatted spinners and I would be a customer for life.
On to the report of my most recent stupid. Probably 2 to 3 weeks ago I found myself at SC. Showed up around 8 pm and there was a decent amount of business going on. Seemed like some regulars were having a party because they had dominated the attention of about 5 dancers who would jump up on stage when they had to and then zoom right back to the booths to get singles thrown on them while a stack of cash sat in my pocket. Hours rolled by while I kept trying to find a girl to my tastes. Thats when I found Leela. Other reports of too many rules are spot on. She is cute though and exactly the body type I prefer so I was definitely interested. I had been there for multiple hours and just wanted to get the night over with so the dumber head did my thinking and I overpaid at 250 for everything covered. Also made the mistake of paying up front but I lucked out and didn't get burned by a dash.
Planning on making a trip up on Saturday since it seems like Friday nights are the worst for places like SC as you will be competing with the "make it rain types". I usually keep my rounds to Bogart's and SC because of all the GPS reports on FC and LS, but I think I might take the leap and check out the scene at those places. Anybody got a line on if there are any of the goth / alt types around? Piercings and tattoos are a thing for me. If I remember right I had an experience with a Noel at Bogart's that fit the look a while back.
Mike Adriano
05-13-22, 07:48
Over the years many dancers told me that they danced at clubs farther from where they live, or grew up; less chance of being seen by someone they know. Of course much of that has changed since the advent of social media. Girls from Warren, Clinton Twp, etc would bypass Coliseum, Players, Tycoons to dance in Inkster, Dearborn, Romulus, Lincoln Park.
Another one is that groups of girls would travel together; girls from Flint or Saginaw would dance in Inkster, Dearborn, etc. , stay a few nights in shared hotel, then return home.
Back in the day there was a strong cadre of girls traveling to Bogarts from Brooklyn (Jackson). They made way more money in Detroit area than Jackson clubs. The big difference being that Jackson clubs weren't known for extras and well, you know the rest.
Of course the biggest motivator was probably earnings potential. Same reason that mongers flock to clubs that offer potential for more and better extras.Spot on Passenger! These were the paper chasers that either controlled their substance abuse or a few that didn't use anything other than a drink or cigarette here and there. Social media wasn't prevalent like it is nowadays and the majority of girls that I knew and grew up with from the East side did in fact dance on the west side as far away as possible from being recognized.
Fun fact. For you that are into Porn "Kendra Lust" Michelle used to dance at Booby Trap on 8 mile / John are right out of High School just a couple miles from home. She was always a paper / money chaser and obviously didn't care about who knew what she was doing!
There were quite a few girls that would travel the country as well and from time to time I'd remember seeing some of the most Beautiful women come in Coliseum from Miami, LA, NY and Vegas. Yes, the prices were extremely high but so was the talent.
Another fun fact- For those of you SW people, Asian Liz used to dance back in the day. Met her at Players's about 25 years ago! She was still drinking Vodka heavy back then!
Wish we could go back to having multiple options like back in the day, but times are constantly changing.
Remain Safe Everyone and Happy Friday the 13th!
Hello everyone. I'm from Milwaukee and I'm always reading on your adventures. I'm hella jealous.
Anyway I'm thinking about swinging by during the NFL season. Which clubs you recommend for bigger guys? I'm pretty wide and don't want to get squeezed while trying to do the deeds.
Thanks and I'm always lurking at your threads.
JackOfClubs
05-14-22, 01:07
Hello everyone. I'm from Milwaukee and I'm always reading on your adventures. I'm hella jealous.
Anyway I'm thinking about swinging by during the NFL season. Which clubs you recommend for bigger guys? I'm pretty wide and don't want to get squeezed while trying to do the deeds.
Thanks and I'm always lurking at your threads.Definitely not H8 as the rooms are like a phone booth.
Looks like it is time again for another trip to the Detroit area for me. Ohio has not only gotten stale as far as the dancer scene is concerned but it is downright depressing. I haven't been in the game long, maybe a couple of years and have had my fair share of stupid mistakes and overpayments (report about 3 weeks ago incoming is one of these). I'm from the cap city area of Ohio and anywhere I drive to to try and get some decent play ITC is a hell of a hike. Only areas I can get extras in my state are 1. 5-2 hours away (Akron and Youngstown) with absolute abysmal quality compared to Michigan. Youngstown has Royalty Room which is a BJ shop where most dancers easily break the 175 lb mark or they look like the meth pipe has destroyed all of their teeth. Akron has a good number of dive bar clubs with dive bar prices but the quality is less than Bogart's or Henry's. It's rough down here for sure. Give me a place I can find an alright supply of white, tatted spinners and I would be a customer for life.
On to the report of my most recent stupid. Probably 2 to 3 weeks ago I found myself at SC. Showed up around 8 pm and there was a decent amount of business going on. Seemed like some regulars were having a party because they had dominated the attention of about 5 dancers who would jump up on stage when they had to and then zoom right back to the booths to get singles thrown on them while a stack of cash sat in my pocket. Hours rolled by while I kept trying to find a girl to my tastes. Thats when I found Leela. Other reports of too many rules are spot on. She is cute though and exactly the body type I prefer so I was definitely interested. I had been there for multiple hours and just wanted to get the night over with so the dumber head did my thinking and I overpaid at 250 for everything covered. Also made the mistake of paying up front but I lucked out and didn't get burned by a dash.
Planning on making a trip up on Saturday since it seems like Friday nights are the worst for places like SC as you will be competing with the "make it rain types". I usually keep my rounds to Bogart's and SC because of all the GPS reports on FC and LS, but I think I might take the leap and check out the scene at those places. Anybody got a line on if there are any of the goth / alt types around? Piercings and tattoos are a thing for me. If I remember right I had an experience with a Noel at Bogart's that fit the look a while back.I would recommend you hit the day shift at the clubs you mentioned. SC has a decent line up on day shift and they're about their business.
Nice report. I stopped by SC on day shift over the weekend. They had fourteen dancers with not many customers. Some names were Cassandra, Chasity, Chloe, Cybil, Elise, Fantasy, Mystique, Sebastian, Sky, Stormy, and Star (the tall blonde one). Not a bad looking lineup including an even split between black and white talent. I've enjoyed Cybil and Elise previously at H8 North. My plan was to repeat with both of them today, but Cybil wore me out. She used a toy during our session to spice things up. Cybil is late-30's (I think), white, dark red hair, A-cup tits, and a petite build. Elise is mid-20's, black / white mix, dark hair, B-cup tits, slender build, nice backside, and has tats. Total damage today was 120 for two beers, VIP fee, and dances.Elise is a witty and beautiful girl. I enjoyed talking to her.
Ray Raynor
05-14-22, 10:53
Hello everyone. I'm from Milwaukee and I'm always reading on your adventures. I'm hella jealous.
Anyway I'm thinking about swinging by during the NFL season. Which clubs you recommend for bigger guys? I'm pretty wide and don't want to get squeezed while trying to do the deeds.
Thanks and I'm always lurking at your threads.I would suggest BTS. They seem to have the roomier VIP booths compared to others I have visited. Also. The Packers suck. But enjoy your visit.
I'm sure someone has had an experience with her but my standard tactic of tipping her on stage to show some interest isn't enough. Although I will also admit she didn't really mingle during my visit either so that probably didn't help. I'm not forward guy asking the girl to head to the back and for all I know it may not even be worth it, so asking members that have had that experience if it'd be worth it and possibly a different approach.
Jules Jordan
05-14-22, 14:27
I'm sure someone has had an experience with her but my standard tactic of tipping her on stage to show some interest isn't enough. Although I will also admit she didn't really mingle during my visit either so that probably didn't help. I'm not forward guy asking the girl to head to the back and for all I know it may not even be worth it, so asking members that have had that experience if it'd be worth it and possibly a different approach.Pixie, a young ebony spinner, provided a worthwhile covered half and half session here late last year. Her being spacey and strange initially concerned me about a lackluster VIP experience, although she really came to life once we got back there. I typically tip a dancer on stage, introduce myself, and then ask them to stop by when they get time.
Chocolate and Isabella are my current favorite H8 night shift dancers. You may want to consider them over Pixie. Attached are pictures of Chocolate and Izzy for reference.
Time Twist
05-14-22, 15:08
I'm from the cap city area of Ohio and anywhere I drive to to try and get some decent play ITC is a hell of a hike. Only areas I can get extras in my state are 1. 5-2 hours away (Akron and Youngstown) with absolute abysmal quality compared to Michigan. Youngstown has Royalty Room which is a BJ shop where most dancers easily break the 175 lb mark or they look like the meth pipe has destroyed all of their teeth. Akron has a good number of dive bar clubs with dive bar prices but the quality is less than Bogart's or Henry's. It's rough down here for sure. Give me a place I can find an alright supply of white, tatted spinners and I would be a customer for life.I am in the Columbus area too and agree 100% that central Ohio is bad. My go to place until it closed was Harem in Dayton. If you've driven all the way to Youngstown, you might as well head to Erie, PA where you can get about the same experience as you do in Detroit, but at only one club and far fewer dancers.
Planning on making a trip up on Saturday since it seems like Friday nights are the worst for places like SC as you will be competing with the "make it rain types". I usually keep my rounds to Bogart's and SC because of all the GPS reports on FC and LS, but I think I might take the leap and check out the scene at those places. Anybody got a line on if there are any of the goth / alt types around? Piercings and tattoos are a thing for me. If I remember right I had an experience with a Noel at Bogart's that fit the look a while back.I saw a few goth type gals at Bogart's and FC my last few trips. LS and Henry's also had a few, but not nearly as much as I have seen Bogies and FC, only place I didn't find one was at Criket's.
The best one was a gal named Marissa or maybe it was Melissa at Bogarts in December.
There was also one at FC I saw in December. Don't recall her name, but a petite brunette, medium length wavy hair, lots of piercing, and quite a few tattoos. Multiple ear rings, nose ring, tongue stud, nipple and clit piercings. Very good dance, and reasonably priced for FC. Quite friendly and attentive during the dance, but then once I was done completely became all business. Gave me some napkins told me to clean up throw away the napkins, then got dressed real quick and dashes out of the room, letting me cleanup.
Chocolate and Isabella are my current favorite H8 night shift dancers. You may want to consider them over Pixie. Attached are pictures of Chocolate and Izzy for reference.Appreciate the nod to Choc and Isabella as I'm a newer clubber but Pixies enthusiasm on stage has me intrigued for sure.
Pussylicker2
05-14-22, 19:57
Hello everyone. I'm from Milwaukee and I'm always reading on your adventures. I'm hella jealous.
Anyway I'm thinking about swinging by during the NFL season. Which clubs you recommend for bigger guys? I'm pretty wide and don't want to get squeezed while trying to do the deeds.
Thanks and I'm always lurking at your threads.H8 N has small VIP "booths", but I once saw a guy in a wheel chair go back, (he kind of was in the aisle and she was in the booth). Cricket had bigger booths that last time I was there. Bogies had 2 larger booths, but sometimes you had to wait for it. Bogies had great food, but the girls all seem to want CBJ over BBBJ. Let us know how it goes.
Pussylicker2
05-14-22, 20:04
I'm sure someone has had an experience with her but my standard tactic of tipping her on stage to show some interest isn't enough. Although I will also admit she didn't really mingle during my visit either so that probably didn't help. I'm not forward guy asking the girl to head to the back and for all I know it may not even be worth it, so asking members that have had that experience if it'd be worth it and possibly a different approach.What I've done is tip on stage and say "I'd love to get some VIP dances with extras when you come down". Then had her say something like "what kind of dances do you want" to which I say "I'd like to lick your pussy and have you suck my dick for a couple of songs and cum in your mouth", and she says "ok, $120", and I say great! It saves a lot of time. When I first say I want extras she knows she'll make money.
Spot on Passenger! These were the paper chasers that either controlled their substance abuse or a few that didn't use anything other than a drink or cigarette here and there. Social media wasn't prevalent like it is nowadays and the majority of girls that I knew and grew up with from the East side did in fact dance on the west side as far away as possible from being recognized.
Fun fact. For you that are into Porn "Kendra Lust" Michelle used to dance at Booby Trap on 8 mile / John are right out of High School just a couple miles from home. She was always a paper / money chaser and obviously didn't care about who knew what she was doing!
There were quite a few girls that would travel the country as well and from time to time I'd remember seeing some of the most Beautiful women come in Coliseum from Miami, LA, NY and Vegas. Yes, the prices were extremely high but so was the talent.
Another fun fact- For those of you SW people, Asian Liz used to dance back in the day. Met her at Players's about 25 years ago! She was still drinking Vodka heavy back then!
Wish we could go back to having multiple options like back in the day, but times are constantly changing.
Remain Safe Everyone and Happy Friday the 13th!Did not know that about Kendra Lust being a former Booby Trap dancer; knew that she was from Detroit and frequently hits Detroit when she feature dances.
The Trap was the breeding ground for some of the best girls back in the day, and one of the earliest joints for extras, out in the semi-open. One of my Top 5 ATFs began her career at the Trap. Lexie the blonde. She bounced to many clubs, and I had some fabulously wet times with her at Penthouse. I remember slumming at Chapeau Vert one night, after losing track of her (before she was at Penthouse). She obviously stood out amongst the hogs of that place. She eventually hung up her g-string and moved onto a good career outside of dancing. Yup, dancers can move on contrary to the beliefs of some of the dolts in here.
Marelobo Mex
05-15-22, 10:32
Got to be the Only Fans revolution.With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.
Strippers in general are not good at planning. When they need money, they would show up at the club, open their legs and collected the dollars. It was an almost unlimited source of cash. As long as they didn't have their period and kept themselves clean and fresh, they could make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a night. Admittedly most just made enough to scrape by and pay enough rent to not get evicted while purchasing their drugs. When COVID came they had no club to work at and no longer an unlimited supply of guys to collect money from.
These girls are not typically good at business or anything that demands competence and keeping a schedule. They would not spend the time / effort to set up an * site or join Seeking Arrangement because it was too darn easy and convenient to go to the club, show pussy, and collect hundreds of dollars.
There are some people on * who make six figure incomes but that is the 1% who work at it every day and answer messages and post regular content and treat it like the real job that it is. Most strippers on the low end can get 10 guys paying 5 dollars for $50 dollars a month coming in. To the high end of 100 guys paying $10 for $1000 a month coming in. Let's say the average stripper earns $500 a month from * Well, that is $500 they never had before that they previously would have had to earn at the club. Since $500 a month is not enough to live on, the real money in * comes from doing dates. Let's suppose a girl does one date a week for multiple hours multiple shots and is paid $500 that is $2000 a month plus her $500 only fans subscriber money and $2500 a month and is enough to live on in Michigan. If she does 2 dates a week that grows to $4500 a month. Now she has her period and can't work every week but she is earning between $2500 and $4500 a month. More than enough money to live on.
Similarly on Seeking arrangement it is not quite as explicitly about sex, but that is what it ends up being about at a similar price point. The girls earn about $500 a night for spending time with the guys. I am in touch with an ex-stripper from a southern midwestern state. She says it is great; she joined Seeking Arrangements for one month, with her looks she had 25 guys who wanted to date her. She ended up getting into a sugar baby relationship with 5 of them. After one month on Seeking Arrangements, she told the guys she didn't like Seeking Arrangements and deleted her profile but she would still see them because she likes them and they are not like the other guys she met (kind of confirming her under the radar status for the dudes). She also works as a Door Dash delivery girl so she has a cover story for the rest of her earnings. Each sugar daddy thinks he is the only guys she is doing this with. They pay her a monthly amount and can see her as many times as they want during the month. But she says something about being able to see her whenever they want is that many months, they will only see her 1 to 3 times. She told me about one of her sugar daddies when he said he couldn't see her in December because he had family events so he didn't want to pay the December monthly allowance. She told him that was ok, but that left her no choice but to go back on Seeking Arrangements again because she really needs his money. Sure, enough that guy coughed up the cash because he couldn't bear to have his sugar baby back on Seeking Arrangements which she doesn't like. She said she is pulling in 4 times the amount of money she used to make as a stripper and she doesn't have to share any of it with the club.
The point being is that these girls have worked out alternative revenue streams and those alternative streams aren't going away in the future even if COVID does.
Girls covering their base costs from * and Seeking arrangement can hunt in the clubs for new customers. They can also dance on stage and collect stage tips. They can drink all night and get drunk on guys buying them drinks. They don't have to earn money in the VIP.
They don't really want to go to the VIP. They are willing if the guy wants to pay $500 but they would rather see the guy Outside the club and receive that same $500 they are used to making on * and Seeking Arrangements. They don't have an interest in banging 3 or 4 guys a night in the strip club's small VIP area.
They can only make this work if the girls are really attractive but the majority of these girls are.
It used to be a girls only way to make cash was in the VIP but now there are more girls running around who don't care to go to the VIP and prefer to see one guy OTC to earn the same more money that they would need to see multiple guys in the club VIP.
Hopefully with COVID waning there will be new young girls starting to dance who were too young to have set up * during the pandemic, not interested in doing Seeking Arrangements, and too lazy to sign up for either site because there are plenty of guys in the club and the dynamic will switch to more girls earning money in the VIP. Perhaps just like before COVID the girls who enter the stripper lifestyle will be just as lazy and won't take the opportunity to set up an online internet presence. The only reason the current girls set up an online presence was the pandemic forced them (necessity is the mother of invention). Without a pandemic forcing the newly eligible young girls on line, they are much less likely to join these sites.
Did not know that about Kendra Lust being a former Booby Trap dancer; knew that she was from Detroit and frequently hits Detroit when she feature dances.
The Trap was the breeding ground for some of the best girls back in the day, and one of the earliest joints for extras, out in the semi-open. One of my Top 5 ATFs began her career at the Trap. Lexie the blonde. She bounced to many clubs, and I had some fabulously wet times with her at Penthouse. I remember slumming at Chapeau Vert one night, after losing track of her (before she was at Penthouse). She obviously stood out amongst the hogs of that place. She eventually hung up her g-string and moved onto a good career outside of dancing. Yup, dancers can move on contrary to the beliefs of some of the dolts in here.Memories, loved that place years ago. Girls were so good. Damn miss these times. Anyone remember Paris?
I went to the same HS as Kendra Lust, and the guy that deleted Hillary Clinton's emails go figure LOL. Later on when it came out she was a legit porn star I heard she stripped but never knew which club it was I assumed it was Jon Johns as it was the closest and probably the most tame SC back then. It's crazy to thing Warren had a SC back then. From what I heard it sounds like the Traffic Light is also closed now.
Spot on Passenger! These were the paper chasers that either controlled their substance abuse or a few that didn't use anything other than a drink or cigarette here and there. Social media wasn't prevalent like it is nowadays and the majority of girls that I knew and grew up with from the East side did in fact dance on the west side as far away as possible from being recognized.
Fun fact. For you that are into Porn "Kendra Lust" Michelle used to dance at Booby Trap on 8 mile / John are right out of High School just a couple miles from home. She was always a paper / money chaser and obviously didn't care about who knew what she was doing!
There were quite a few girls that would travel the country as well and from time to time I'd remember seeing some of the most Beautiful women come in Coliseum from Miami, LA, NY and Vegas. Yes, the prices were extremely high but so was the talent.
Another fun fact- For those of you SW people, Asian Liz used to dance back in the day. Met her at Players's about 25 years ago! She was still drinking Vodka heavy back then!
Wish we could go back to having multiple options like back in the day, but times are constantly changing.
Remain Safe Everyone and Happy Friday the 13th!
Memories, loved that place years ago. Girls were so good. Damn miss these times. Anyone remember Paris?It was pretty much a pig farm from the early 2000's and on.
Like I said, to see Lexie in there that one evening, I was shocked.
Sparkeyman
05-16-22, 12:09
It was pretty much a pig farm from the early 2000's and on.
Like I said, to see Lexie in there that one evening, I was shocked.In the mid to late 90's they'd actually get some talent in there on weekends and would pack the place. Saw Dianna (later of henrys south fame) there on any number of occasions. She was rather hot when she was younger.
With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.
Strippers in general are not good at planning. When they need money, they would show up at the club, open their legs and collected the dollars. It was an almost unlimited source of cash. As long as they didn't have their period and kept themselves clean and fresh, they could make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a night. Admittedly most just made enough to scrape by and pay enough rent to not get evicted while purchasing their drugs. When COVID came they had no club to work at and no longer an unlimited supply of guys to collect money from.
These girls are not typically good at business or anything that demands competence and keeping a schedule. They would not spend the time / effort to set up an * site or join Seeking Arrangement because it was too darn easy and convenient to go to the club, show pussy, and collect hundreds of dollars.
There are some people on * who make six figure incomes but that is the 1% who work at it every day and answer messages and post regular content and treat it like the real job that it is. Most strippers on the low end can get 10 guys paying 5 dollars for $50 dollars a month coming in. To the high end of 100 guys paying $10 for $1000 a month coming in. Let's say the average stripper earns $500 a month from * Well, that is $500 they never had before that they previously would have had to earn at the club. Since $500 a month is not enough to live on, the real money in * comes from doing dates. Let's suppose a girl does one date a week for multiple hours multiple shots and is paid $500 that is $2000 a month plus her $500 only fans subscriber money and $2500 a month and is enough to live on in Michigan. If she does 2 dates a week that grows to $4500 a month. Now she has her period and can't work every week but she is earning between $2500 and $4500 a month. More than enough money to live on.
Similarly on Seeking arrangement it is not quite as explicitly about sex, but that is what it ends up being about at a similar price point. The girls earn about $500 a night for spending time with the guys. I am in touch with an ex-stripper from a southern midwestern state. She says it is great; she joined Seeking Arrangements for one month, with her looks she had 25 guys who wanted to date her. She ended up getting into a sugar baby relationship with 5 of them. After one month on Seeking Arrangements, she told the guys she didn't like Seeking Arrangements and deleted her profile but she would still see them because she likes them and they are not like the other guys she met (kind of confirming her under the radar status for the dudes). She also works as a Door Dash delivery girl so she has a cover story for the rest of her earnings. Each sugar daddy thinks he is the only guys she is doing this with. They pay her a monthly amount and can see her as many times as they want during the month. But she says something about being able to see her whenever they want is that many months, they will only see her 1 to 3 times. She told me about one of her sugar daddies when he said he couldn't see her in December because he had family events so he didn't want to pay the December monthly allowance. She told him that was ok, but that left her no choice but to go back on Seeking Arrangements again because she really needs his money. Sure, enough that guy coughed up the cash because he couldn't bear to have his sugar baby back on Seeking Arrangements which she doesn't like. She said she is pulling in 4 times the amount of money she used to make as a stripper and she doesn't have to share any of it with the club.
The point being is that these girls have worked out alternative revenue streams and those alternative streams aren't going away in the future even if COVID does.
Girls covering their base costs from * and Seeking arrangement can hunt in the clubs for new customers. They can also dance on stage and collect stage tips. They can drink all night and get drunk on guys buying them drinks. They don't have to earn money in the VIP.
They don't really want to go to the VIP. They are willing if the guy wants to pay $500 but they would rather see the guy Outside the club and receive that same $500 they are used to making on * and Seeking Arrangements. They don't have an interest in banging 3 or 4 guys a night in the strip club's small VIP area.
They can only make this work if the girls are really attractive but the majority of these girls are.
It used to be a girls only way to make cash was in the VIP but now there are more girls running around who don't care to go to the VIP and prefer to see one guy OTC to earn the same more money that they would need to see multiple guys in the club VIP.
Hopefully with COVID waning there will be new young girls starting to dance who were too young to have set up * during the pandemic, not interested in doing Seeking Arrangements, and too lazy to sign up for either site because there are plenty of guys in the club and the dynamic will switch to more girls earning money in the VIP. Perhaps just like before COVID the girls who enter the stripper lifestyle will be just as lazy and won't take the opportunity to set up an online internet presence. The only reason the current girls set up an online presence was the pandemic forced them (necessity is the mother of invention). Without a pandemic forcing the newly eligible young girls on line, they are much less likely to join these sites.Can someone send me the Readers Digest condensed version of this please.
Did not know that about Kendra Lust being a former Booby Trap dancer; knew that she was from Detroit and frequently hits Detroit when she feature dances.
The Trap was the breeding ground for some of the best girls back in the day, and one of the earliest joints for extras, out in the semi-open. One of my Top 5 ATFs began her career at the Trap. Lexie the blonde. She bounced to many clubs, and I had some fabulously wet times with her at Penthouse. I remember slumming at Chapeau Vert one night, after losing track of her (before she was at Penthouse). She obviously stood out amongst the hogs of that place. She eventually hung up her g-string and moved onto a good career outside of dancing. Yup, dancers can move on contrary to the beliefs of some of the dolts in here.If this is the Lexie who lived in TC, she was an ATF. I think she's the first stripper I achieved BBGCIA with.
If this is the Lexie who lived in TC, she was an ATF. I think she's the first stripper I achieved BBGCIA with.She was a legend. Her body when in her 40's, put most dancers in their 20's at Penthouse, to shame. She loved to fuck.
With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.
Strippers in general are not good at planning. When they need money, they would show up at the club, open their legs and collected the dollars. It was an almost unlimited source of cash. As long as they didn't have their period and kept themselves clean and fresh, they could make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a night. Admittedly most just made enough to scrape by and pay enough rent to not get evicted while purchasing their drugs. When COVID came they had no club to work at and no longer an unlimited supply of guys to collect money from.
These girls are not typically good at business or anything that demands competence and keeping a schedule. They would not spend the time / effort to set up an * site or join Seeking Arrangement because it was too darn easy and convenient to go to the club, show pussy, and collect hundreds of dollars.
There are some people on * who make six figure incomes but that is the 1% who work at it every day and answer messages and post regular content and treat it like the real job that it is. Most strippers on the low end can get 10 guys paying 5 dollars for $50 dollars a month coming in. To the high end of 100 guys paying $10 for $1000 a month coming in. Let's say the average stripper earns $500 a month from * Well, that is $500 they never had before that they previously would have had to earn at the club. Since $500 a month is not enough to live on, the real money in * comes from doing dates. Let's suppose a girl does one date a week for multiple hours multiple shots and is paid $500 that is $2000 a month plus her $500 only fans subscriber money and $2500 a month and is enough to live on in Michigan. If she does 2 dates a week that grows to $4500 a month. Now she has her period and can't work every week but she is earning between $2500 and $4500 a month. More than enough money to live on.
Similarly on Seeking arrangement it is not quite as explicitly about sex, but that is what it ends up being about at a similar price point. The girls earn about $500 a night for spending time with the guys. I am in touch with an ex-stripper from a southern midwestern state. She says it is great; she joined Seeking Arrangements for one month, with her looks she had 25 guys who wanted to date her. She ended up getting into a sugar baby relationship with 5 of them. After one month on Seeking Arrangements, she told the guys she didn't like Seeking Arrangements and deleted her profile but she would still see them because she likes them and they are not like the other guys she met (kind of confirming her under the radar status for the dudes). She also works as a Door Dash delivery girl so she has a cover story for the rest of her earnings. Each sugar daddy thinks he is the only guys she is doing this with. They pay her a monthly amount and can see her as many times as they want during the month. But she says something about being able to see her whenever they want is that many months, they will only see her 1 to 3 times. She told me about one of her sugar daddies when he said he couldn't see her in December because he had family events so he didn't want to pay the December monthly allowance. She told him that was ok, but that left her no choice but to go back on Seeking Arrangements again because she really needs his money. Sure, enough that guy coughed up the cash because he couldn't bear to have his sugar baby back on Seeking Arrangements which she doesn't like. She said she is pulling in 4 times the amount of money she used to make as a stripper and she doesn't have to share any of it with the club.
The point being is that these girls have worked out alternative revenue streams and those alternative streams aren't going away in the future even if COVID does.
Girls covering their base costs from * and Seeking arrangement can hunt in the clubs for new customers. They can also dance on stage and collect stage tips. They can drink all night and get drunk on guys buying them drinks. They don't have to earn money in the VIP.
They don't really want to go to the VIP. They are willing if the guy wants to pay $500 but they would rather see the guy Outside the club and receive that same $500 they are used to making on * and Seeking Arrangements. They don't have an interest in banging 3 or 4 guys a night in the strip club's small VIP area.
They can only make this work if the girls are really attractive but the majority of these girls are.
It used to be a girls only way to make cash was in the VIP but now there are more girls running around who don't care to go to the VIP and prefer to see one guy OTC to earn the same more money that they would need to see multiple guys in the club VIP.
Hopefully with COVID waning there will be new young girls starting to dance who were too young to have set up * during the pandemic, not interested in doing Seeking Arrangements, and too lazy to sign up for either site because there are plenty of guys in the club and the dynamic will switch to more girls earning money in the VIP. Perhaps just like before COVID the girls who enter the stripper lifestyle will be just as lazy and won't take the opportunity to set up an online internet presence. The only reason the current girls set up an online presence was the pandemic forced them (necessity is the mother of invention). Without a pandemic forcing the newly eligible young girls on line, they are much less likely to join these sites.So this is why my download speeds dipped yesterday.
Got to H8 at 7:30, dead for about 15 minutes then picked up a little. By far the best looking one in there was Kat, who sat next to me at the bar. Chatted a bit and then went back to the VIP. Paid troll tax and then started with a lap dance before she quickly asked if I wanted more. We settled on $200 everything. Didn't negotiate a cover for the BJ and she wanted one on to start for the BJ, oh well. Went to doggy and then she rode me to finish. Was a bit of a rusher but a bit my fault since I was so horny I didn't negotiate well. Still got the job done.I'm new to this forum but can someone tell me what club H8 is? And where is best one in Detroit for best looking girls for extras and what time?
I'm new to this forum but can someone tell me what club H8 is? And where is best one in Detroit for best looking girls for extras and what time?H8 =Henry the 8th North in Inkster.
Best place for best looking plus extra = FC flight club also in Inkster any weekend night
Bts in Dearborn.
LS west side of metro airport in Romulus.
She was a legend. Her body when in her 40's, put most dancers in their 20's at Penthouse, to shame. She loved to fuck.My first squirter. Good times!
WillieRichie
05-17-22, 10:38
With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.
Strippers in general are not good at planning. When they need money, they would show up at the club, open their legs and collected the dollars. It was an almost unlimited source of cash. As long as they didn't have their period and kept themselves clean and fresh, they could make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a night. Admittedly most just made enough to scrape by and pay enough rent to not get evicted while purchasing their drugs. When COVID came they had no club to work at and no longer an unlimited supply of guys to collect money from.
These girls are not typically good at business or anything that demands competence and keeping a schedule. They would not spend the time / effort to set up an * site or join Seeking Arrangement because it was too darn easy and convenient to go to the club, show pussy, and collect hundreds of dollars.
There are some people on * who make six figure incomes but that is the 1% who work at it every day and answer messages and post regular content and treat it like the real job that it is. Most strippers on the low end can get 10 guys paying 5 dollars for $50 dollars a month coming in. To the high end of 100 guys paying $10 for $1000 a month coming in. Let's say the average stripper earns $500 a month from * Well, that is $500 they never had before that they previously would have had to earn at the club. Since $500 a month is not enough to live on, the real money in * comes from doing dates. Let's suppose a girl does one date a week for multiple hours multiple shots and is paid $500 that is $2000 a month plus her $500 only fans subscriber money and $2500 a month and is enough to live on in Michigan. If she does 2 dates a week that grows to $4500 a month. Now she has her period and can't work every week but she is earning between $2500 and $4500 a month. More than enough money to live on.
Similarly on Seeking arrangement it is not quite as explicitly about sex, but that is what it ends up being about at a similar price point. The girls earn about $500 a night for spending time with the guys. I am in touch with an ex-stripper from a southern midwestern state. She says it is great; she joined Seeking Arrangements for one month, with her looks she had 25 guys who wanted to date her. She ended up getting into a sugar baby relationship with 5 of them. After one month on Seeking Arrangements, she told the guys she didn't like Seeking Arrangements and deleted her profile but she would still see them because she likes them and they are not like the other guys she met (kind of confirming her under the radar status for the dudes). She also works as a Door Dash delivery girl so she has a cover story for the rest of her earnings. Each sugar daddy thinks he is the only guys she is doing this with. They pay her a monthly amount and can see her as many times as they want during the month. But she says something about being able to see her whenever they want is that many months, they will only see her 1 to 3 times. She told me about one of her sugar daddies when he said he couldn't see her in December because he had family events so he didn't want to pay the December monthly allowance. She told him that was ok, but that left her no choice but to go back on Seeking Arrangements again because she really needs his money. Sure, enough that guy coughed up the cash because he couldn't bear to have his sugar baby back on Seeking Arrangements which she doesn't like. She said she is pulling in 4 times the amount of money she used to make as a stripper and she doesn't have to share any of it with the club.
The point being is that these girls have worked out alternative revenue streams and those alternative streams aren't going away in the future even if COVID does.
Girls covering their base costs from * and Seeking arrangement can hunt in the clubs for new customers. They can also dance on stage and collect stage tips. They can drink all night and get drunk on guys buying them drinks. They don't have to earn money in the VIP.
They don't really want to go to the VIP. They are willing if the guy wants to pay $500 but they would rather see the guy Outside the club and receive that same $500 they are used to making on * and Seeking Arrangements. They don't have an interest in banging 3 or 4 guys a night in the strip club's small VIP area.
They can only make this work if the girls are really attractive but the majority of these girls are.
It used to be a girls only way to make cash was in the VIP but now there are more girls running around who don't care to go to the VIP and prefer to see one guy OTC to earn the same more money that they would need to see multiple guys in the club VIP.
Hopefully with COVID waning there will be new young girls starting to dance who were too young to have set up * during the pandemic, not interested in doing Seeking Arrangements, and too lazy to sign up for either site because there are plenty of guys in the club and the dynamic will switch to more girls earning money in the VIP. Perhaps just like before COVID the girls who enter the stripper lifestyle will be just as lazy and won't take the opportunity to set up an online internet presence. The only reason the current girls set up an online presence was the pandemic forced them (necessity is the mother of invention). Without a pandemic forcing the newly eligible young girls on line, they are much less likely to join these sites.I can't even try to read all that.
Pussylicker2
05-17-22, 12:07
I can't even try to read all that.Wayne County Community College has remedial classes that might help. MM is one of the best contributors here.
With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.
Strippers in general are not good at planning. When they need money, they would show up at the club, open their legs and collected the dollars. It was an almost unlimited source of cash. As long as they didn't have their period and kept themselves clean and fresh, they could make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a night. Admittedly most just made enough to scrape by and pay enough rent to not get evicted while purchasing their drugs. When COVID came they had no club to work at and no longer an unlimited supply of guys to collect money from.
These girls are not typically good at business or anything that demands competence and keeping a schedule. They would not spend the time / effort to set up an * site or join Seeking Arrangement because it was too darn easy and convenient to go to the club, show pussy, and collect hundreds of dollars.
There are some people on * who make six figure incomes but that is the 1% who work at it every day and answer messages and post regular content and treat it like the real job that it is. Most strippers on the low end can get 10 guys paying 5 dollars for $50 dollars a month coming in. To the high end of 100 guys paying $10 for $1000 a month coming in. Let's say the average stripper earns $500 a month from * Well, that is $500 they never had before that they previously would have had to earn at the club. Since $500 a month is not enough to live on, the real money in * comes from doing dates. Let's suppose a girl does one date a week for multiple hours multiple shots and is paid $500 that is $2000 a month plus her $500 only fans subscriber money and $2500 a month and is enough to live on in Michigan. If she does 2 dates a week that grows to $4500 a month. Now she has her period and can't work every week but she is earning between $2500 and $4500 a month. More than enough money to live on.
Similarly on Seeking arrangement it is not quite as explicitly about sex, but that is what it ends up being about at a similar price point. The girls earn about $500 a night for spending time with the guys. I am in touch with an ex-stripper from a southern midwestern state. She says it is great; she joined Seeking Arrangements for one month, with her looks she had 25 guys who wanted to date her. She ended up getting into a sugar baby relationship with 5 of them. After one month on Seeking Arrangements, she told the guys she didn't like Seeking Arrangements and deleted her profile but she would still see them because she likes them and they are not like the other guys she met (kind of confirming her under the radar status for the dudes). She also works as a Door Dash delivery girl so she has a cover story for the rest of her earnings. Each sugar daddy thinks he is the only guys she is doing this with. They pay her a monthly amount and can see her as many times as they want during the month. But she says something about being able to see her whenever they want is that many months, they will only see her 1 to 3 times. She told me about one of her sugar daddies when he said he couldn't see her in December because he had family events so he didn't want to pay the December monthly allowance. She told him that was ok, but that left her no choice but to go back on Seeking Arrangements again because she really needs his money. Sure, enough that guy coughed up the cash because he couldn't bear to have his sugar baby back on Seeking Arrangements which she doesn't like. She said she is pulling in 4 times the amount of money she used to make as a stripper and she doesn't have to share any of it with the club.
The point being is that these girls have worked out alternative revenue streams and those alternative streams aren't going away in the future even if COVID does.
Girls covering their base costs from * and Seeking arrangement can hunt in the clubs for new customers. They can also dance on stage and collect stage tips. They can drink all night and get drunk on guys buying them drinks. They don't have to earn money in the VIP.
They don't really want to go to the VIP. They are willing if the guy wants to pay $500 but they would rather see the guy Outside the club and receive that same $500 they are used to making on * and Seeking Arrangements. They don't have an interest in banging 3 or 4 guys a night in the strip club's small VIP area.
They can only make this work if the girls are really attractive but the majority of these girls are.
It used to be a girls only way to make cash was in the VIP but now there are more girls running around who don't care to go to the VIP and prefer to see one guy OTC to earn the same more money that they would need to see multiple guys in the club VIP.
Hopefully with COVID waning there will be new young girls starting to dance who were too young to have set up * during the pandemic, not interested in doing Seeking Arrangements, and too lazy to sign up for either site because there are plenty of guys in the club and the dynamic will switch to more girls earning money in the VIP. Perhaps just like before COVID the girls who enter the stripper lifestyle will be just as lazy and won't take the opportunity to set up an online internet presence. The only reason the current girls set up an online presence was the pandemic forced them (necessity is the mother of invention). Without a pandemic forcing the newly eligible young girls on line, they are much less likely to join these sites.Thanks for the manifesto, Mr Kazinski.
You certainly take quite a lot for granted, and your math doesn't begin to add up. Maybe you should publish?
With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.
Strippers in general are not good at planning. When they need money, they would show up at the club, open their legs and collected the dollars. It was an almost unlimited source of cash. As long as they didn't have their period and kept themselves clean and fresh, they could make hundreds or even thousands of dollars a night. Admittedly most just made enough to scrape by and pay enough rent to not get evicted while purchasing their drugs. When COVID came they had no club to work at and no longer an unlimited supply of guys to collect money from.
These girls are not typically good at business or anything that demands competence and keeping a schedule. They would not spend the time / effort to set up an * site or join Seeking Arrangement because it was too darn easy and convenient to go to the club, show pussy, and collect hundreds of dollars.
There are some people on * who make six figure incomes but that is the 1% who work at it every day and answer messages and post regular content and treat it like the real job that it is. Most strippers on the low end can get 10 guys paying 5 dollars for $50 dollars a month coming in. To the high end of 100 guys paying $10 for $1000 a month coming in. Let's say the average stripper earns $500 a month from * Well, that is $500 they never had before that they previously would have had to earn at the club. Since $500 a month is not enough to live on, the real money in * comes from doing dates. Let's suppose a girl does one date a week for multiple hours multiple shots and is paid $500 that is $2000 a month plus her $500 only fans subscriber money and $2500 a month and is enough to live on in Michigan. If she does 2 dates a week that grows to $4500 a month. Now she has her period and can't work every week but she is earning between $2500 and $4500 a month. More than enough money to live on...
Marelobo Mex
05-17-22, 19:10
Wayne County Community College has remedial classes that might help. MM is one of the best contributors here.Thanks PL2.
I understand my post was too long for some. Some things take more than a couple sentences to express.
There are many posts I think are not accurate, but I enjoy reading them.
This board is about communication and information. I shared my thoughts, I am happy if someone can correct them or post a better analysis.
I posted my thoughts in relation to question that was asked by others, and I will continue to answer questions if I feel I have something relevant to say.
MM.
JackOfClubs
05-17-22, 20:20
Thanks PL2.
I understand my post was too long for some. Some things take more than a couple sentences to express.
There are many posts I think are not accurate, but I enjoy reading them.
This board is about communication and information. I shared my thoughts, I am happy if someone can correct them or post a better analysis.
I posted my thoughts in relation to question that was asked by others, and I will continue to answer questions if I feel I have something relevant to say.
MM.I liked your post it had insight and depth to it and was a good read. Thanks.
CommonSteve666
05-17-22, 22:48
I liked your post it had insight and depth to it and was a good read. Thanks.It was a good read. Funny thing is that those who found fault in one long post made by Mex included his Entire post in their responses.
Jules Jordan
05-17-22, 22:54
They had at least fourteen dancers with scattered customers. Some names were Abbey, Alasia, Amira from Criket, Carmon, Chy, Delaney aka Zoe, Gabriella, Jaylynn, Leena, Pinky, Sasha, Thai, and Vegas. Appearance wise, a mixed bag lineup. Abbey provided a mediocre session here earlier this year, I wouldn't repeat. Chy provided three good sessions here last year. I've read multiple negative reports about Amira, Gabriella, and Thai on the forums.
Pinky is early-20's, black / white mix, dyed blonde hair, B-cup tits, short height, medium build, nice booty, and has tats. Her enthusiastic / passionate VIP performance this afternoon was excellent. I would repeat.
Total damage today was 180 for two beers, VIP fee, and dances.
Thanks for the manifesto, Mr Kazinski.Best answer that I've read in some time.
Wayne County Community College has remedial classes that might help. MM is one of the best contributors here.Well if one considers reports that are several months old, which is similar to dog years in timeliness, yeah they are great. Also, if one is looking specifically for dancers who will acquiesce to an individual's fetishes, why sure.
WillyMatt123
05-18-22, 07:27
Best answer that I've read in some time.I spit out my coffee when I read that one. Bravo!
Sanctimonious6
05-18-22, 09:40
Thanks for the manifesto, Mr Kazinski.A. K. A. The Poonabomber.
WillieRichie
05-18-22, 11:13
It was a good read. Funny thing is that those who found fault in one long post made by Mex included his Entire post in their responses.I can't speak for others, but personally, my post was made in jest and meant to be sarcastic.
A. K. A. The Poonabomber.Another classic. Reputed to be more dangerous than both the Underwear bomber and the Shoe bomber.
None of these individuals should be confused with Pete the Puma bomber.
With COVID the clubs were all closed for many months. The girls couldn't go that long without earnings, so that forced them to make other arrangements which continue to today, and have changed the landscape.....
Hopefully with COVID waning there will be new young girls starting to dance who were too young to have set up * during the pandemic, not interested in doing Seeking Arrangements, and too lazy to sign up for either site because there are plenty of guys in the club and the dynamic will switch to more girls earning money in the VIP. Perhaps just like before COVID the girls who enter the stripper lifestyle will be just as lazy and won't take the opportunity to set up an online internet presence. The only reason the current girls set up an online presence was the pandemic forced them (necessity is the mother of invention). Without a pandemic forcing the newly eligible young girls on line, they are much less likely to join these sites.Thanks for the thorough report. Solid contributions are appreciated. Don't be deterred by the fact that some people just don't have the patience or capacity to read anything longer than a meme.
I like MM's posts, and if liking 18 yo thin inexperienced girls is a fetish, I have that fetish too.
I am planning a tour of the strip clubs in a few main cities. I'm not interested in FS. All I want is to suck as many young, beautiful, natural titties as my bankroll will allow. The main variables here are: quantity of young (18-24), hot little things willing to get their titties sucked during a lapdance and cost of lapdances. Can anybody here recommend some spots based on those two criteria?
JackOfClubs
05-19-22, 18:45
I am planning a tour of the strip clubs in a few main cities. I'm not interested in FS. All I want is to suck as many young, beautiful, natural titties as my bankroll will allow. The main variables here are: quantity of young (18-24), hot little things willing to get their titties sucked during a lapdance and cost of lapdances. Can anybody here recommend some spots based on those two criteria?I would think that pretty much all of them would have no problem with that, just ask them beforehand to see if it's ok.
They had at least fourteen dancers with scattered customers. Some names were Abbey, Alasia, Amira from Criket, Carmon, Chy, Delaney aka Zoe, Gabriella, Jaylynn, Leena, Pinky, Sasha, Thai, and Vegas. Appearance wise, a mixed bag lineup. Abbey provided a mediocre session here earlier this year, I wouldn't repeat. Chy provided three good sessions here last year. I've read multiple negative reports about Amira, Gabriella, and Thai on the forums.
Pinky is early-20's, black / white mix, dyed blonde hair, B-cup tits, short height, medium build, nice booty, and has tats. Her enthusiastic / passionate VIP performance this afternoon was excellent. I would repeat.
Total damage today was 180 for two beers, VIP fee, and dances.After the debates and essays it's nice to get back to what this sub is about.
Met a blonde with big man mades and pretty face last Monday. She said she was from Miami (Ft Lauderdale) and comes up fairly often. Anyone have any insight on her in the VIP? Sorry, I didn't catch her name. Thanks.
I would think that pretty much all of them would have no problem with that, just ask them beforehand to see if it's ok.Damn I never asked it always seemed implied that it was fine, now I feel like a dbag:
SomeDetroitGuy
05-21-22, 11:16
Damn I never asked it always seemed implied that it was fine, now I feel like a dbag:I'm a fan of making sure everything is agreed to up front. Before we go back, I always lay out what I want (example: Let's make out a little, let me suck your tits, grab your ass and then get a blowjob no condom and cum in your mouth. Does that work? No kissing, okay, what about your neck is that okay? Cool. How much?
I used to ask what her rules were but too often women would say "I don't have any" and then push your hand away from their clit or pull their head away from kissing or whatever. I find that make sure no one is surprised, I have appropriate expectations, and I get what I'm paying for.
I have noticed that strippers have good ways of guiding you away from things they don't do. Of your fingers are getting close to their pussy they might move them to their tits, keep their tits out of reach of your mouth, etc. Even if you aren't asking explicitly what is and isn't okay, if you just pay attention to their clues then you're good.
H8 =Henry the 8th North in Inkster.
Best place for best looking plus extra = FC flight club also in Inkster any weekend night
Bts in Dearborn.
LS west side of metro airport in Romulus.Anyone able to lmk details on clubs and strippers for blowjobs uncovered w swallow, and FS and specific charges.
Like how much cover, table dance and how long VIP is for and prices for BBBJCIM and fuck.
Theres only 1 in the Cleveland area, 1 in youngstown and a few good ones in FL.
I'd like to make the trip to Detroit if I can intel the specs before making the travel drive.
Thanks so much.
Pussylicker2
05-21-22, 15:25
I am planning a tour of the strip clubs in a few main cities. I'm not interested in FS. All I want is to suck as many young, beautiful, natural titties as my bankroll will allow. The main variables here are: quantity of young (18-24), hot little things willing to get their titties sucked during a lapdance and cost of lapdances. Can anybody here recommend some spots based on those two criteria?I consider titty sucking to be part of the VIP experience, although some girls might say it's extra. Lots of ladies allow titty sucking during the $5 bar-side dances, although those aren't done at Detroit bars. If you just go back to the VIP and start sucking her tits it's usually fine, but you could check first just to avoid misunderstandings. Hot girls are in demand, so you could tip $1 while she's on stage and tell her you'd like to get some VIP dances with her and suck her tits. She may say sure, and come over after her dance.
Different bars have different prices of course, and all have an entry fee to use the VIP area, usually $10 to $20. But some bars charge the fee every time you take a new girl back, while some bars (Bogarts, Henry 8th north) give you a wrist band, so for $10 you can take all the honeys back that you want all night. I mention this because you said you wanted lots of girls. You could tell the first girl you take back that you want to suck lots of young hot titties and they may send their friends to you! Flight club and landing strip MAY have hotter girls, but they both have mandatory valet parking so you have to surrender your car keys, so I don't go there. (I believe) both those clubs charge for every trip to the VIP (but I could be wrong).
Don't let them pull shit like agree to $20 / song, then after say it's $20 PLUS $20 to suck tits. She may make a scene but you can just say "we did 1 song, I paid her $20, I'm leaving" and walk out. They will NOT cause you any problems if you're being polite and sober, and you take your car keys and leave. But that won't happen. Let us know how it goes, we want a complete trip report!
SomeDetroitGuy
05-21-22, 16:21
Anyone able to lmk details on clubs and strippers for blowjobs uncovered w swallow, and FS and specific charges.
Like how much cover, table dance and how long VIP is for and prices for BBBJCIM and fuck.
Theres only 1 in the Cleveland area, 1 in youngstown and a few good ones in FL.
I'd like to make the trip to Detroit if I can intel the specs before making the travel drive.
Thanks so much.Super quick overview on the area:
Low-end clubs. Henry VIII and Bogarts, both in Inkster, MI. These are dive bars which are essentially brothels. Literally every girl will do extras. Door will be $5, VIP wristband will be $10, drinks will be $8-10. Cost for extras will be $80-140 for BJs or full service. I don't like anal so I've never asked but you'll find girls at both these places which do. Day shift women tend to be older, fatter, less attractive. Sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough. For BBBJ, Nicole at Henry VIII is amazing. By and large, you're getting what you pay for. These are cheaper for a reason. Sometimes you'll find a hotter girl at one of these clubs but stick to a budget. Please don't be bidding up prices for us locals.
Mid-range clubs: BT's, Silver Cricket. Both in Dearborn, MI. These are your typical strip clubs. Tend to be average to above average looking women. African American and Arabic girls are pretty common here (and generally more attractive than the non-Arabic white chicks). I've been ripped off at BT's before (agreed to $120 for full service with a super hot chick, all inclusive then she demanded song rates on top of it) but if you search the forum, you'll find a lot of people with good experience at both. Always negotiate at the table before you go back. I'd expect to pay $150-200 for full service. Don't recall the cover and VIP charges but search the forum and you'll see a LOT of reviews.
High-end clubs: Flight Club (Inkster) and Landing Strip (Romulus). These are the Vegas-style clubs. Very hot chicks, expensive cover, expensive drinks. Lots of GPS. Be prepared to spend $200-$400 for women here. Honestly, at those prices I'd just check out Eros or Tryst and hit up the high end escorts. Why spend $300 on 5 minutes in a club with a gorgeous women when you could spend $300 for an hour in her upscale apartment?
Detroit clubs: No extras. None. They don't even have private rooms for lap dances anymore.
If you're worried about cops and stings. The clubs above are all very safe and you won't have a problem. If you want escorts, sex work in Washtenaw County (Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti, Saline) is decriminalized so as long as you are honest with the escort you won't get into trouble; however, if you do pull bullshit (refuse to pay, beat them up, trick them into sex without a condom when they insist on one, etc.), they'll call the cops on you and you'll get charged. So you play fair, they play fair and you don't have to worry about being the next Robert Kraft.
Also, check out massage parlors in Jackson and Ann Arbor if that's your thing.
If you need more details, search these clubs in the forum. They're all VERY extensively covered.
SevenSixfive
05-21-22, 20:00
Tiny girl Mia was at penthouse 2016 and 17. Moved to FC at least briefly when PH had they issues. Anyone know who I'm talking about and if she still around? Feel free to PM. Willing to help those that help me if I can.
PackMan3135
05-21-22, 22:07
Hit FC this weekend Fri / Sat around 9. Was looking particularly for this middle eastern / Latin looking stunner named Neveah. Didn't find what I was looking for Friday, but club was slamming with several 8-10's and lots of 7's to pick from. Only go approached by 1 girl, Summer, light skinned AA, very slim with long blonde hair. Offered to go up for some fun, but I passed. Asked manager about Neveah and was told she works Sat, Sun, Mon night.
Came back Sat and was basically the same story. No Neveah, but did spot 2 smoking Latin girls, Daniella, light skinned Puerto Rican, and Gabriella, super hot slim brown skinned girl. Tipped Daniella and went upstairs. 2 really lackluster dances then wanted 6 for everything. Told her 2 but she only would do 5. Went back downstairs and tipped Gabriella but she didn't come back around.
Going back home tonight, have to be at airport by 11:15. Going to give it one more shot. Any suggestions for a good Monday evening club between FC, BT, and LS? Also, any info on Neveah or Gabriella at FC would be appreciated.Gabriella does do extras for the right price I've seen her before she's pretty good you won't regret it.
Anyone able to lmk details on clubs and strippers for blowjobs uncovered w swallow, and FS and specific charges.
Like how much cover, table dance and how long VIP is for and prices for BBBJCIM and fuck.
Theres only 1 in the Cleveland area, 1 in youngstown and a few good ones in FL.
I'd like to make the trip to Detroit if I can intel the specs before making the travel drive.
Thanks so much.Cover cost FC 20 to get inside VIP 25 day and night shift no table dances. No limit on time, price all over the place avg 200-500 or above.
LS 20 to get in VIP 20 both day and night, IIRC no limit on time once again prices avg 200 -500 and above.
BTs 20 to get in on weekends, VIP is 20 for 10 dances after the 10th dance in the VIP they want another 25, prices are lower than FC & LS.
Admin should pin this thread.
Also if the OP is asking for the length of the song, it's 3 minutes. For some reason, all songs end exactly at the 3 min mark.
Super quick overview on the area:
Low-end clubs. Henry VIII and Bogarts, both in Inkster, MI. These are dive bars which are essentially brothels. Literally every girl will do extras. Door will be $5, VIP wristband will be $10, drinks will be $8-10. Cost for extras will be $80-140 for BJs or full service. I don't like anal so I've never asked but you'll find girls at both these places which do. Day shift women tend to be older, fatter, less attractive. Sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough. For BBBJ, Nicole at Henry VIII is amazing. By and large, you're getting what you pay for. These are cheaper for a reason. Sometimes you'll find a hotter girl at one of these clubs but stick to a budget. Please don't be bidding up prices for us locals.
Mid-range clubs: BT's, Silver Cricket. Both in Dearborn, MI. These are your typical strip clubs. Tend to be average to above average looking women. African American and Arabic girls are pretty common here (and generally more attractive than the non-Arabic white chicks). I've been ripped off at BT's before (agreed to $120 for full service with a super hot chick, all inclusive then she demanded song rates on top of it) but if you search the forum, you'll find a lot of people with good experience at both. Always negotiate at the table before you go back. I'd expect to pay $150-200 for full service. Don't recall the cover and VIP charges but search the forum and you'll see a LOT of reviews.
High-end clubs: Flight Club (Inkster) and Landing Strip (Romulus). These are the Vegas-style clubs. Very hot chicks, expensive cover, expensive drinks. Lots of GPS. Be prepared to spend $200-$400 for women here. Honestly, at those prices I'd just check out Eros or Tryst and hit up the high end escorts. Why spend $300 on 5 minutes in a club with a gorgeous women when you could spend $300 for an hour in her upscale apartment?
Detroit clubs: No extras. None. They don't even have private rooms for lap dances anymore.
If you're worried about cops and stings. The clubs above are all very safe and you won't have a problem. If you want escorts, sex work in Washtenaw County (Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti, Saline) is decriminalized so as long as you are honest with the escort you won't get into trouble; however, if you do pull bullshit (refuse to pay, beat them up, trick them into sex without a condom when they insist on one, etc.), they'll call the cops on you and you'll get charged. So you play fair, they play fair and you don't have to worry about being the next Robert Kraft.
Also, check out massage parlors in Jackson and Ann Arbor if that's your thing.
If you need more details, search these clubs in the forum. They're all VERY extensively covered.
Admin should pin this thread.
Also if the OP is asking for the length of the song, it's 3 minutes. For some reason, all songs end exactly at the 3 min mark.Best post I've seen in years and 100 pct Accurate. Any questions let this post be your guide!
SevenSixfive
05-22-22, 15:16
They had at least fourteen dancers with scattered customers. Some names were Abbey, Alasia, Amira from Criket, Carmon, Chy, Delaney aka Zoe, Gabriella, Jaylynn, Leena, Pinky, Sasha, Thai, and Vegas. Appearance wise, a mixed bag lineup. Abbey provided a mediocre session here earlier this year, I wouldn't repeat. Chy provided three good sessions here last year. I've read multiple negative reports about Amira, Gabriella, and Thai on the forums.
Pinky is early-20's, black / white mix, dyed blonde hair, B-cup tits, short height, medium build, nice booty, and has tats. Her enthusiastic / passionate VIP performance this afternoon was excellent. I would repeat.
Total damage today was 180 for two beers, VIP fee, and dances.Willing to PM me or let me PM you? Pretty please?
Member #6492
05-23-22, 13:49
Has anyone seen Lindzee at H8 N recently? Every time I've gone on Mon / Friday for day shift I've struck out.
On average at night in the weekend it can average 300-500 ballpark range, all covered smh. I will say last year I bc it some of the best pussy of my life from an Italian freak with a big butt who let me put my spunk inside her (vagina was extra wet too) but for those who were going before 2020, how was the pricing? And what does current day pricing look like now, I might be heading up Friday.
Jules Jordan
05-23-22, 21:55
On average at night in the weekend it can average 300-500 ballpark range, all covered smh. I will say last year I bc it some of the best pussy of my life from an Italian freak with a big butt who let me put my spunk inside her (vagina was extra wet too) but for those who were going before 2020, how was the pricing? And what does current day pricing look like now, I might be heading up Friday.I stopped regularly visiting BT's night shift after late 2018 / early 2019 because dancers started wanting too much. The attached pictures show BT's dancers that provided worthwhile BBBJ with CFS sessions for 150 or less back then. You should consider BT's and Silver Criket Saturday day shift or H8 North Friday / Saturday night shift for more reasonable prices. Lack of talent caused me to cease visiting Bogart's in late 2019.
GoodKarmaGuy
05-23-22, 23:08
Visited Landing String on Friday night. Line up was good.
A pretty girl named "River" approached and agreed to do extras for 2.
Once we went to downstairs her attitude totally changed and gave a lackluster lap dance. I just left in few minutes and my Friday night was totally ruined.
Such a waste of time and money.
ArmySexy77
05-24-22, 05:13
Saw this on Twitter from a sex worker.
https://twitter.com/botticellibimbo/status/1527390388167659528
Reversecowgirl69.
At botticellibimbo.
The strip club is sadly a leading indicator and I can promise why'all we are in a recession lmao.
Saw this on Twitter from a sex worker.
https://twitter.com/botticellibimbo/status/1527390388167659528
Reversecowgirl69.
At botticellibimbo.
The strip club is sadly a leading indicator and I can promise why'all we are in a recession lmao.It really makes sense, less money to spend on hobbies. Ib my industry I'm seeing a slow in major purchases and toys. Think RV ATV boats. I'm also seeing gas guzzlers, unless it's for work, being sold and clients stating gas prices are the reason. I don't want to give too many details of my occupation but I often have financial conversations with clients, these are your middle and upper middle people with 6 figure income and it's interesting. When gas is too high people really see it. It can't be hidden like a carton of ice cream or cereal. When we spend and consume less the economy slows. China and lockdowns are hurting them, this will further cause supply issues and hurt us. Good thing is a lot of retailers way over bought so things like TV s furniture etc sitting in wearhouses will be on sale soon since people won't be buying unless they need it. Add in interest rate increase making minimum payment on credit cards higher, less home sales, less car purchases etc. The shit is going to hit the fan.
Looks like cheap and plentiful FS is coming. Just sucks it's a bear to get to that side of town with all the road work will.
Member #6611
05-24-22, 13:55
Visited Landing String on Friday night. Line up was good.
A pretty girl named "River" approached and agreed to do extras for 2.
Once we went to downstairs her attitude totally changed and gave a lackluster lap dance. I just left in few minutes and my Friday night was totally ruined.
Such a waste of time and money.You're the second person I've seen make a similar complaint about her. Which is a shame, because she's really pretty.
JackOfClubs
05-24-22, 17:23
It really makes sense, less money to spend on hobbies. Ib my industry I'm seeing a slow in major purchases and toys. Think RV ATV boats. I'm also seeing gas guzzlers, unless it's for work, being sold and clients stating gas prices are the reason. I don't want to give too many details of my occupation but I often have financial conversations with clients, these are your middle and upper middle people with 6 figure income and it's interesting. When gas is too high people really see it. It can't be hidden like a carton of ice cream or cereal. When we spend and consume less the economy slows. China and lockdowns are hurting them, this will further cause supply issues and hurt us. Good thing is a lot of retailers way over bought so things like TV s furniture etc sitting in wearhouses will be on sale soon since people won't be buying unless they need it. Add in interest rate increase making minimum payment on credit cards higher, less home sales, less car purchases etc. The shit is going to hit the fan.
Looks like cheap and plentiful FS is coming. Just sucks it's a bear to get to that side of town with all the road work will.Due to the economy I have already noticed a downturn in customers attending the clubs, there are often as many girls as guys until late at night. This should lead to a more realistic pricing on the value of service!!
Marelobo Mex
05-24-22, 18:32
I stopped regularly visiting BT's night shift after late 2018 / early 2019 because dancers started wanting too much. The attached pictures show BT's dancers that provided worthwhile BBBJ with CFS sessions for 150 or less back then. You should consider BT's and Silver Criket Saturday day shift or H8 North Friday / Saturday night shift for more reasonable prices. Lack of talent caused me to cease visiting Bogart's in late 2019.Both Bella and Miley where a good time, I never tried any of the other girls.
Bella is pregnant with her first child now.
MM.
JackOfClubs
05-24-22, 18:39
Visited Landing String on Friday night. Line up was good.
A pretty girl named "River" approached and agreed to do extras for 2.
Once we went to downstairs her attitude totally changed and gave a lackluster lap dance. I just left in few minutes and my Friday night was totally ruined.
Such a waste of time and money.I hope you didn't pay her first.
I would guess another big reason the clubs are empty is lack of talent. It seems all that wants to work anymore is fat girls with gps or 35 or older. Just take a look at stg in any major citiy and it's the same bbws and milfs with gps. More and more I'm starting to blame mainstream media for telling females having a giant ass is hot. Like I've seen IG models working out to make their asses bigger. Just disgusting.
GoodKarmaGuy
05-24-22, 21:12
I hope you didn't pay her first.I lost. She demanded to pay first and even after reading several warnings not to pay upfront, I did.
Such a shame.
I have had good experience with "Rhea" in Landing strip before and she demanded to pay upfront too.
What's the best thing to do when a stripper demand to pay first? Just walk away?
I know most strip clubs doesn't allow to take pictures of the dancers. I'll try taking a picture of "River" next time if I get a chance and add it here.
Love The Lips
05-24-22, 21:22
I would guess another big reason the clubs are empty is lack of talent. It seems all that wants to work anymore is fat girls with gps or 35 or older. Just take a look at stg in any major citiy and it's the same bbws and milfs with gps. More and more I'm starting to blame mainstream media for telling females having a giant ass is hot. Like I've seen IG models working out to make their asses bigger. Just disgusting.I completely agree Beer! How in the hell did a girl having a big fat ass get to be the in thing that girls strive for??
I lost. She demanded to pay first and even after reading several warnings not to pay upfront, I did.
Such a shame.
I have had good experience with "Rhea" in Landing strip before and she demanded to pay upfront too.
What's the best thing to do when a stripper demand to pay first? Just walk away?
I know most strip clubs doesn't allow to take pictures of the dancers. I'll try taking a picture of "River" next time if I get a chance and add it here.I usually either say "Sorry I've been ripped off too many times like that" or anymore I just say nevermind. Normally even if they agree to pay after they aren't worth the money.
I would guess another big reason the clubs are empty is lack of talent. It seems all that wants to work anymore is fat girls with gps or 35 or older. Just take a look at stg in any major citiy and it's the same bbws and milfs with gps. More and more I'm starting to blame mainstream media for telling females having a giant ass is hot. Like I've seen IG models working out to make their asses bigger. Just disgusting.Not just big asses look at all the woke companies with fat slobs as bikini models, target, v. S, all of them it's like they're saying being morbidly obese is ok and not bad for health yet that same person pushes masks to walk into their stores.
I completely agree Beer! How in the hell did a girl having a big fat ass get to be the in thing that girls strive for??Fucking Kardashians, that's how.
SilentStorm
05-25-22, 00:12
Not my usual place to stop but thought I'd check it out since it was $10 Tuesdays & hopefully play with some tites. Well, my luck with Bogarts remains the same. Nothing to write home.
Spoke to Winter. From Ohio and she was one of the one or two who was younger and somewhat ok given the rest of the crowd. Slightly thicker and small breasts. She quoted $300 for everything and for dances, 5 minimum for $100. No thanks. Off she goes.
She did say she can come down to $200 ish but nothing less than that.
Happy hunting.
ArmySexy77
05-25-22, 02:11
It really makes sense, less money to spend on hobbies. Ib my industry I'm seeing a slow in major purchases and toys. Think RV ATV boats. I'm also seeing gas guzzlers, unless it's for work, being sold and clients stating gas prices are the reason. I don't want to give too many details of my occupation but I often have financial conversations with clients, these are your middle and upper middle people with 6 figure income and it's interesting. When gas is too high people really see it. It can't be hidden like a carton of ice cream or cereal. When we spend and consume less the economy slows. China and lockdowns are hurting them, this will further cause supply issues and hurt us. Good thing is a lot of retailers way over bought so things like TV s furniture etc sitting in wearhouses will be on sale soon since people won't be buying unless they need it. Add in interest rate increase making minimum payment on credit cards higher, less home sales, less car purchases etc. The shit is going to hit the fan.
Looks like cheap and plentiful FS is coming. Just sucks it's a bear to get to that side of town with all the road work will.Thing is I made out likea bandit money wise due to the pandemic, 10 years ago I was BROKE AF and there was nothing but quality pussy, Now that I got money the pussy is skank and when the lockdowns happened, I need more than one reason to go out to an area other to get my freak on.
Not my usual place to stop but thought I'd check it out since it was $10 Tuesdays & hopefully play with some tites. Well, my luck with Bogarts remains the same. Nothing to write home.
Spoke to Winter. From Ohio and she was one of the one or two who was younger and somewhat ok given the rest of the crowd. Slightly thicker and small breasts. She quoted $300 for everything and for dances, 5 minimum for $100. No thanks. Off she goes.
She did say she can come down to $200 ish but nothing less than that.
Happy hunting.That is crazy high for Bogarts!
Pussylicker2
05-25-22, 13:24
I lost. She demanded to pay first and even after reading several warnings not to pay upfront, I did.
Such a shame.
I have had good experience with "Rhea" in Landing strip before and she demanded to pay upfront too.
What's the best thing to do when a stripper demand to pay first? Just walk away?
I know most strip clubs doesn't allow to take pictures of the dancers. I'll try taking a picture of "River" next time if I get a chance and add it here.I never pay first. You did, so she'll keep doing it. If I go back with a girl and she says I have to pay first, I just say "this isn't going to work", I get up and walk out. She'll come running out and hollar at the bouncer. I'll tell the bouncer " I didn't pay because I didn't get a dance. I didn't get a dance because she refused unless I pay first, and I never pay first". I don't ask for the VIP room fee back because I want the bouncer on my side. If the bouncer gives me any shit I say "I'm leaving", I reach in my pocket for my car keys. My car keys are there because I did not leave my keys with the valet punk. They WILL NOT call the cops. They will not rough you up. When you surrendered your keys you gave then permission to fuck you over. When you paid in advance the girl no longer had any obligation to you.
I never get taken at strip clubs. It doesn't bother me if others disagree with my approach and get ripped off as a result. But, people who make these mistakes cause the clubs to keep pulling this shit. Just imagine if every patron told the valet parking goon no, I'm not giving you my keys, and then left. Imagine if every guy a dancer tried to pull the pay up front bullshit to just laughed and walked out.
I don't blame the girls, or the clubs, I blame the please who enable them.
Pussylicker2
05-25-22, 14:28
Not my usual place to stop but thought I'd check it out since it was $10 Tuesdays & hopefully play with some tites. Well, my luck with Bogarts remains the same. Nothing to write home.
Spoke to Winter. From Ohio and she was one of the one or two who was younger and somewhat ok given the rest of the crowd. Slightly thicker and small breasts. She quoted $300 for everything and for dances, 5 minimum for $100. No thanks. Off she goes.
She did say she can come down to $200 ish but nothing less than that.
Happy hunting.Bogart used to have a sign that said to report girls who refuse to do $10 dances (on Tuesday).
I would guess another big reason the clubs are empty is lack of talent. It seems all that wants to work anymore is fat girls with gps or 35 or older. Just take a look at stg in any major citiy and it's the same bbws and milfs with gps. More and more I'm starting to blame mainstream media for telling females having a giant ass is hot. Like I've seen IG models working out to make their asses bigger. Just disgusting.So, SO true! I'm a 50-something, unattractive dude and I admit it without hesitation or shame. NEVER would a guy looking anything like me get a job as a stripper catering to women, yet women who looks as bad or WORSE than myself have no shame about getting up there and shaking their. Uh. 'stuff', and expecting to get paid for it. Just once I would like to tell one of those 250 lb grannies, "Honey, believe it or not, if I wanted someone like you, I wouldn't be in HERE to begin with! I come here to watch, chat with and get action from gals 30-odd years younger and 30 x better looking than me and I'm willing to pay the price. But I'm NOT paying for someone I could go to a '50 and up' singles gig and pick up anytime!
JackOfClubs
05-25-22, 22:51
Bogarts actually has great bar food, and every once in a while there are hotties there, so just go for a burger and to watch the Tigers and maybe you will get lucky that night. If not then it's just another day just like at a regular bar.
Thanks So much appreciation SomeDetroitGuy.
Ill research those and map area and drive time.
Thanks for going out of your way for all those amazing notes.
Super quick overview on the area:
Low-end clubs. Henry VIII and Bogarts, both in Inkster, MI. These are dive bars which are essentially brothels. Literally every girl will do extras. Door will be $5, VIP wristband will be $10, drinks will be $8-10. Cost for extras will be $80-140 for BJs or full service. I don't like anal so I've never asked but you'll find girls at both these places which do. Day shift women tend to be older, fatter, less attractive. Sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough. For BBBJ, Nicole at Henry VIII is amazing. By and large, you're getting what you pay for. These are cheaper for a reason. Sometimes you'll find a hotter girl at one of these clubs but stick to a budget. Please don't be bidding up prices for us locals.
Mid-range clubs: BT's, Silver Cricket. Both in Dearborn, MI. These are your typical strip clubs. Tend to be average to above average looking women. African American and Arabic girls are pretty common here (and generally more attractive than the non-Arabic white chicks). I've been ripped off at BT's before (agreed to $120 for full service with a super hot chick, all inclusive then she demanded song rates on top of it) but if you search the forum, you'll find a lot of people with good experience at both. Always negotiate at the table before you go back. I'd expect to pay $150-200 for full service. Don't recall the cover and VIP charges but search the forum and you'll see a LOT of reviews.
High-end clubs: Flight Club (Inkster) and Landing Strip (Romulus). These are the Vegas-style clubs. Very hot chicks, expensive cover, expensive drinks. Lots of GPS. Be prepared to spend $200-$400 for women here. Honestly, at those prices I'd just check out Eros or Tryst and hit up the high end escorts. Why spend $300 on 5 minutes in a club with a gorgeous women when you could spend $300 for an hour in her upscale apartment?
Detroit clubs: No extras. None. They don't even have private rooms for lap dances anymore.
If you're worried about cops and stings. The clubs above are all very safe and you won't have a problem. If you want escorts, sex work in Washtenaw County (Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti, Saline) is decriminalized so as long as you are honest with the escort you won't get into trouble; however, if you do pull bullshit (refuse to pay, beat them up, trick them into sex without a condom when they insist on one, etc.), they'll call the cops on you and you'll get charged. So you play fair, they play fair and you don't have to worry about being the next Robert Kraft.
Also, check out massage parlors in Jackson and Ann Arbor if that's your thing.
If you need more details, search these clubs in the forum. They're all VERY extensively covered.
Thanks so much for this Drew93.
Cover cost FC 20 to get inside VIP 25 day and night shift no table dances. No limit on time, price all over the place avg 200-500 or above.
LS 20 to get in VIP 20 both day and night, IIRC no limit on time once again prices avg 200 -500 and above.
BTs 20 to get in on weekends, VIP is 20 for 10 dances after the 10th dance in the VIP they want another 25, prices are lower than FC & LS.
SomeDetroitGuy
05-26-22, 10:24
So, SO true! I'm a 50-something, unattractive dude and I admit it without hesitation or shame. NEVER would a guy looking anything like me get a job as a stripper catering to women, yet women who looks as bad or WORSE than myself have no shame about getting up there and shaking their. Uh. 'stuff', and expecting to get paid for it. Just once I would like to tell one of those 250 lb grannies, "Honey, believe it or not, if I wanted someone like you, I wouldn't be in HERE to begin with! I come here to watch, chat with and get action from gals 30-odd years younger and 30 x better looking than me and I'm willing to pay the price. But I'm NOT paying for someone I could go to a '50 and up' singles gig and pick up anytime!It costs them money just to walk into the club. I think a lot of folks forget that around here but the clubs take a Huge chunk of cash up front when a dancer walks in the door. These women are absolutely getting someone to pay for whatever they are selling or else they wouldn't afford to be able to be in the club in the first place.
If you want the girls "30-odd years younger and 30 x better looking" than you then go to Flight Club since you are, as you say, "willing to pay the price".
Pussylicker2
05-26-22, 12:23
Cover cost FC 20 to get inside VIP 25 day and night shift no table dances. No limit on time, price all over the place avg 200-500 or above.
LS 20 to get in VIP 20 both day and night, IIRC no limit on time once again prices avg 200 -500 and above.
BTs 20 to get in on weekends, VIP is 20 for 10 dances after the 10th dance in the VIP they want another 25, prices are lower than FC & LS.How does BT's keep track of how many dances you've done? Do you get a wristband like H8 N and Bogies? I'm confused.
You say FC is $20 to get in, you also have to pay for parking right? Same with LS?
How does BT's keep track of how many dances you've done? Do you get a wristband like H8 N and Bogies? I'm confused.
Door guy that takes you to the VIP room keeps track when you go back
You say FC is $20 to get in, you also have to pay for parking right? Same with LS?Poster asked how much the fees cost for the VIP not the other costs parking valet is part of the cost of going into the club.
Pussylicker2, I know you are totally against valet more power to you. Most people I have hung out within the clubs have no problem valet is basically the cost of 1 drink.
I understand the point you make of wanting to have control over who has the keys to you're car or truck. In 24 years of going to the clubs I have never had any issues. I'm not saying something could happen just on average I have yet to witness any issues. Just another cost of getting the pleasure to do business with said clubs.
Bogarts actually has great bar food, and every once in a while there are hotties there, so just go for a burger and to watch the Tigers and maybe you will get lucky that night. If not then it's just another day just like at a regular bar.I'm always game for a burger.
JamieGreek2019
05-26-22, 18:17
I haven't been to Bogies in years, never had much luck with the talent during visits. I will second this though, they have good bar food.
Stay safe,
J.
Bogarts actually has great bar food, and every once in a while there are hotties there, so just go for a burger and to watch the Tigers and maybe you will get lucky that night. If not then it's just another day just like at a regular bar.
JamieGreek2019
05-26-22, 18:19
This. 100% this. I'm amazed how big the asses have gotten on the high end escort sites. Fucking Kardashians.
Stay safe,
J.
Fucking Kardashians, that's how.
Poster asked how much the fees cost for the VIP not the other costs parking valet is part of the cost of going into the club.
Pussylicker2, I know you are totally against valet more power to you. Most people I have hung out within the clubs have no problem valet is basically the cost of 1 drink.
I understand the point you make of wanting to have control over who has the keys to you're car or truck. In 24 years of going to the clubs I have never had any issues. I'm not saying something could happen just on average I have yet to witness any issues. Just another cost of getting the pleasure to do business with said clubs.I never like to use valet for one solid reason. I tend to always have a pistol in my car. Yes it is legal. I do not want someone with the keys to my car having access to it. I can't take it inside and I won't leave it at home. It goes where I go period. It needs to stay locked safely in the vehicle therefore I do not use valet ever.
This. 100% this. I'm amazed how big the asses have gotten on the high end escort sites. Fucking Kardashians.
If there wasn't a demand, there wouldn't be so many big ass to pick from.
With that said, please forward all those big ol booties to me pronto. LOL!
JackOfClubs
05-28-22, 09:52
If there wasn't a demand, there wouldn't be so many big ass to pick from.
With that said, please forward all those big ol booties to me pronto. LOL!Just go to H8 and you will be in hog heaven!!
MichiganGuy30
05-28-22, 11:11
I never like to use valet for one solid reason. I tend to always have a pistol in my car. Yes it is legal. I do not want someone with the keys to my car having access to it. I can't take it inside and I won't leave it at home. It goes where I go period. It needs to stay locked safely in the vehicle therefore I do not use valet ever.Agree, I don't want some $10/ hour jerk in my car. Also, can't stand the retard in the cheap tux in the bathroom handing you a paper towel and expecting a tip. I wonder what that guy puts on his resume? Bathroom attendant? That shows a prospective employer that you are certainly an "achiever".
Agree, I don't want some $10/ hour jerk in my car. Also, can't stand the retard in the cheap tux in the bathroom handing you a paper towel and expecting a tip. I wonder what that guy puts on his resume? Bathroom attendant? That shows a prospective employer that you are certainly an "achiever".Most just use "Toxic Waste Site Manager".
CommonSteve666
05-28-22, 16:17
Agree, I don't want some $10/ hour jerk in my car. Also, can't stand the retard in the cheap tux in the bathroom handing you a paper towel and expecting a tip. I wonder what that guy puts on his resume? Bathroom attendant? That shows a prospective employer that you are certainly an "achiever".If he's actually keeping it clean then I don't mind him. Much more pleasant to use the restroom at flight club than Henry's. Grab a handful of candy on your way out to offset the cost of tip.
SteveJohnAss
05-28-22, 17:23
After several henrys trips I finally managed to get a chance with vixen. 5 pm on a Thursday. She was up at the pole dancing, slipped her a couple bucks. She pulled her panties to the side and showed me that lovely pussy of hers. Told her I wanted some company. Gave her eyes throughout her set just before she got done some other girl sat at my table and was just chatting away. Clearly wasn't paying attention to her, but it was enough vixen didn't come over to me. I excused myself to go to the bathroom and when I was done went up behind vixen and goosed her ass and asked her if she was ready for that dance. Sshe took me to the back. She apologized for not coming over but she wasn't trying to step on the other girls shoes, said she was sorry we didn't get the chance to talk business. She offered 200 BBFS no song count, my dick said sure why not and went to town. Her head skills are wonderful, sucked it for a few songs then stood up and told me to give it to her. Popped it in and asked if I could cum inside her, she said no. I made it maybe two of three pumps before it was go time and sprayed it all over her ass. I got to say, its times like this when being a two pump chump really sucks ass haha oh well, over payed but it was still fun, and she's a good girl. Very much my type, big titties, thicc, and nice gothy vibes. I meant to ask her about take out, but my post nut regret set it too hard and I got out of there.
Pussylicker2
05-28-22, 17:37
Bogarts actually has great bar food, and every once in a while there are hotties there, so just go for a burger and to watch the Tigers and maybe you will get lucky that night. If not then it's just another day just like at a regular bar.I never considered eating at a strip club, especially considering a water at bogies is $10. But I noticed a lot of the dancers eating the food so I asked one of them if the food was good and she said it was great. And it's priced right, even cheaper than a normal bar. My advice is don't order from the menu. Walk up to the window that opens to the kitchen. There's a board with the day's specials, it's stuff that isn't on the menu. They have lamb chops sometimes, and steak. Be prepared, the waitress will have to go get a pad and pen, you have to describe what you want because she has no idea, she's probably never been a real waitress. I like going to bogies, $5 to get in, $10 water, nice meal $12, I'm out $35. If I don't see what I like I get the free pass to hanks and try there. Bogies and Hanks have an occasional hottie, although it's not consistent. The bathrooms aren't dirty, they're just old. And there's no troll.
Thanks a lot for this ma man! You are a LEGEND!
Super quick overview on the area:
Low-end clubs. Henry VIII and Bogarts, both in Inkster, MI. These are dive bars which are essentially brothels. Literally every girl will do extras. Door will be $5, VIP wristband will be $10, drinks will be $8-10. Cost for extras will be $80-140 for BJs or full service. I don't like anal so I've never asked but you'll find girls at both these places which do. Day shift women tend to be older, fatter, less attractive. Sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough. For BBBJ, Nicole at Henry VIII is amazing. By and large, you're getting what you pay for. These are cheaper for a reason. Sometimes you'll find a hotter girl at one of these clubs but stick to a budget. Please don't be bidding up prices for us locals.
Mid-range clubs: BT's, Silver Cricket. Both in Dearborn, MI. These are your typical strip clubs. Tend to be average to above average looking women. African American and Arabic girls are pretty common here (and generally more attractive than the non-Arabic white chicks). I've been ripped off at BT's before (agreed to $120 for full service with a super hot chick, all inclusive then she demanded song rates on top of it) but if you search the forum, you'll find a lot of people with good experience at both. Always negotiate at the table before you go back. I'd expect to pay $150-200 for full service. Don't recall the cover and VIP charges but search the forum and you'll see a LOT of reviews.
High-end clubs: Flight Club (Inkster) and Landing Strip (Romulus). These are the Vegas-style clubs. Very hot chicks, expensive cover, expensive drinks. Lots of GPS. Be prepared to spend $200-$400 for women here. Honestly, at those prices I'd just check out Eros or Tryst and hit up the high end escorts. Why spend $300 on 5 minutes in a club with a gorgeous women when you could spend $300 for an hour in her upscale apartment?
Detroit clubs: No extras. None. They don't even have private rooms for lap dances anymore.
If you're worried about cops and stings. The clubs above are all very safe and you won't have a problem. If you want escorts, sex work in Washtenaw County (Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti, Saline) is decriminalized so as long as you are honest with the escort you won't get into trouble; however, if you do pull bullshit (refuse to pay, beat them up, trick them into sex without a condom when they insist on one, etc.), they'll call the cops on you and you'll get charged. So you play fair, they play fair and you don't have to worry about being the next Robert Kraft.
Also, check out massage parlors in Jackson and Ann Arbor if that's your thing.
If you need more details, search these clubs in the forum. They're all VERY extensively covered.
MichiganGuy30
05-28-22, 20:59
If he's actually keeping it clean then I don't mind him. Much more pleasant to use the restroom at flight club than Henry's. Grab a handful of candy on your way out to offset the cost of tip.Haven't been in any strip club for about 7-8 years ago, so things may have changed. Never seen the guy do any cleaning, just standing there giving you a paper towel with one hand and holding the other out for a tip. Just kinda annoying to me, never understood the whole facade or a luxury club (referring to the cheap tux's, and attempt of "class" in these dives) Don't really mis the clubs. I did my share of visiting while I was going to the Niagara Falls area for work 98-2004, was kinda spoiled, anything goes in those places (back then) and the US dollar would go a long way with the exchange rate back then. I remember one of the VIP rooms had these two tall plants in pots, the girls would spit out a mouth full as they exited, not sure how those plants survived. Never had valet guys or bathroom "cleaners' in them either.
Met one called Winter (might change name soon).
Negotiated price. Saw on a post that the standard for full service was 140, but she was adamant that no one did stuff for that low. We ended up agreeing 200.
Personality and friendliness completely flipped after entering room. Took money off of my hands before I finished counting. Basically told me shit to do like I was a preschooler. Gave a sloppy BJ, didn't let me touch her body, gave me lip for asking for the agreed FS. Then bailed midway without even getting me hard.
Feel horrible, cheated, and humiliated. I try to respect these women, but girls like these make me rethink how I should treat them. I think hiring escorts would be way better.
Take care folks.
SilentStorm
05-29-22, 10:19
Met one called Winter (might change name soon).
Negotiated price. Saw on a post that the standard for full service was 140, but she was adamant that no one did stuff for that low. We ended up agreeing 200.
Personality and friendliness completely flipped after entering room. Took money off of my hands before I finished counting. Basically told me shit to do like I was a preschooler. Gave a sloppy BJ, didn't let me touch her body, gave me lip for asking for the agreed FS. Then bailed midway without even getting me hard.
Feel horrible, cheated, and humiliated. I try to respect these women, but girls like these make me rethink how I should treat them. I think hiring escorts would be way better.
Take care folks.Hey sorry you had a bad experience. That's the one I met the other day. See my previous post!
She said she is from Ohio and comes up here and makes a lot of money. And her attitude at the table was enough for me to see the red flag.! I thought my post would've warned a little bit about her aggressive pricing. And with that I didn't expect any better service either.
Hopefully most recognize her as a rip off unless she does better.
Happy hunting.
OnTheRoad2019
05-30-22, 02:47
Met one called Winter (might change name soon).
Negotiated price. Saw on a post that the standard for full service was 140, but she was adamant that no one did stuff for that low. We ended up agreeing 200.
Personality and friendliness completely flipped after entering room. Took money off of my hands before I finished counting. Basically told me shit to do like I was a preschooler. Gave a sloppy BJ, didn't let me touch her body, gave me lip for asking for the agreed FS. Then bailed midway without even getting me hard.
Feel horrible, cheated, and humiliated. I try to respect these women, but girls like these make me rethink how I should treat them. I think hiring escorts would be way better.
Take care folks.What did she look like? I'm going this weekend and want to make sure to avoid her ass!
Pussylicker2
05-30-22, 11:20
Met one called Winter (might change name soon).
Negotiated price. Saw on a post that the standard for full service was 140, but she was adamant that no one did stuff for that low. We ended up agreeing 200.
Personality and friendliness completely flipped after entering room. Took money off of my hands before I finished counting. Basically told me shit to do like I was a preschooler. Gave a sloppy BJ, didn't let me touch her body, gave me lip for asking for the agreed FS. Then bailed midway without even getting me hard.
Feel horrible, cheated, and humiliated. I try to respect these women, but girls like these make me rethink how I should treat them. I think hiring escorts would be way better.
Take care folks.If I was still in the area I'd take her to the VIP. Of course I'd never let her have the money until after the deed so I'd probably walk out without giving her a dime just to piss her off.
Super quick overview on the area:
Low-end clubs. Henry VIII and Bogarts, both in Inkster, MI. These are dive bars which are essentially brothels. Literally every girl will do extras. Door will be $5, VIP wristband will be $10, drinks will be $8-10. Cost for extras will be $80-140 for BJs or full service. I don't like anal so I've never asked but you'll find girls at both these places which do. Day shift women tend to be older, fatter, less attractive. Sometimes you can find a diamond in the rough. For BBBJ, Nicole at Henry VIII is amazing. By and large, you're getting what you pay for. These are cheaper for a reason. Sometimes you'll find a hotter girl at one of these clubs but stick to a budget. Please don't be bidding up prices for us locals.
Mid-range clubs: BT's, Silver Cricket. Both in Dearborn, MI. These are your typical strip clubs. Tend to be average to above average looking women. African American and Arabic girls are pretty common here (and generally more attractive than the non-Arabic white chicks). I've been ripped off at BT's before (agreed to $120 for full service with a super hot chick, all inclusive then she demanded song rates on top of it) but if you search the forum, you'll find a lot of people with good experience at both. Always negotiate at the table before you go back. I'd expect to pay $150-200 for full service. Don't recall the cover and VIP charges but search the forum and you'll see a LOT of reviews.
High-end clubs: Flight Club (Inkster) and Landing Strip (Romulus). These are the Vegas-style clubs. Very hot chicks, expensive cover, expensive drinks. Lots of GPS. Be prepared to spend $200-$400 for women here. Honestly, at those prices I'd just check out Eros or Tryst and hit up the high end escorts. Why spend $300 on 5 minutes in a club with a gorgeous women when you could spend $300 for an hour in her upscale apartment?
Detroit clubs: No extras. None. They don't even have private rooms for lap dances anymore.
If you're worried about cops and stings. The clubs above are all very safe and you won't have a problem. If you want escorts, sex work in Washtenaw County (Ann Arbor, Ypsilanti, Saline) is decriminalized so as long as you are honest with the escort you won't get into trouble; however, if you do pull bullshit (refuse to pay, beat them up, trick them into sex without a condom when they insist on one, etc.), they'll call the cops on you and you'll get charged. So you play fair, they play fair and you don't have to worry about being the next Robert Kraft.
Also, check out massage parlors in Jackson and Ann Arbor if that's your thing.
If you need more details, search these clubs in the forum. They're all VERY extensively covered.I was just about to post something like "moving back to the area after 5 years, how is the SC scene?" Thanks for this. Disappointing about the Detroit clubs. I had a hell of a lot of fun at Coliseum before I moved.
Met one called Winter (might change name soon).
Negotiated price. Saw on a post that the standard for full service was 140, but she was adamant that no one did stuff for that low. We ended up agreeing 200.
Personality and friendliness completely flipped after entering room. Took money off of my hands before I finished counting. Basically told me shit to do like I was a preschooler. Gave a sloppy BJ, didn't let me touch her body, gave me lip for asking for the agreed FS. Then bailed midway without even getting me hard.
Feel horrible, cheated, and humiliated. I try to respect these women, but girls like these make me rethink how I should treat them. I think hiring escorts would be way better.
Take care folks.Appreciate the heads up, spoke with her last night at Bogs with this in mind she was exact in her mannerisms. Saved me some money.
New girl there (Logan) came from FC way out of the clubs league but wanted $25 for dances and min $250 negotiating point on anything. Passed.
Tiara formerly of H8 was there. Negotiated $150 FS provided a good session probably could of got her down a bit lower but was rushing a bit due to other interactions.
AllRight999
05-31-22, 14:38
I think I might just go with a high end escort instead of dealing with these clubs. Strippers make it feel rushed and the VIP rooms are not as great as an apartment or nice hotel room.
I think I might just go with a high end escort instead of dealing with these clubs. Strippers make it feel rushed and the VIP rooms are not as great as an apartment or nice hotel room.A wise choice.
Telecaster
05-31-22, 15:52
3 fridays ago was at flight club. Ended up going back with Sasha (AA, big tits, perfect ass) settled on $4 for everything. Had a good time admiring her assets at I pounded away.
The next week came back and had Kennedy (big titty blonde) Started with some dances and then negotiated 250 to cover the dances and a CBJ. I will say her effort was 10/10, but it was still just a CBJ which I don't like.
Love to find out where you can find "high end" escorts in Detroit. Hopefully, these are not the girls on Eros calling themself "VIP" and want 500 an hr.
I think I might just go with a high end escort instead of dealing with these clubs. Strippers make it feel rushed and the VIP rooms are not as great as an apartment or nice hotel room.
Love to find out where you can find "high end" escorts in Detroit. Hopefully, these are not the girls on Eros calling themself "VIP" and want 500 an hr.EROS is a crap shoot. I've had success with hot strippers OTC. It's not rushed and the service is great.
3 fridays ago was at flight club. Ended up going back with Sasha (AA, big tits, perfect ass) settled on $4 for everything. Had a good time admiring her assets at I pounded away.
The next week came back and had Kennedy (big titty blonde) Started with some dances and then negotiated 250 to cover the dances and a CBJ. I will say her effort was 10/10, but it was still just a CBJ which I don't like.If it's the Kennedy I remember from PH, she has really lowered her price. She was $500 CBJ at PH.
Another Person
06-01-22, 18:47
If it's the Kennedy I remember from PH, she has really lowered her price. She was $500 CBJ at PH.Different Kennedy. PHC Kennedy now works between Coli and Legends under a different name. Still good for OTC though. Rumor is she ditched her pimp and can't work at FC bc his other girls work there.
Gia from Texas is back for a few weeks. Girls a high volume good quality hottie. Been doing her kegals.
OnTheRoad2019
06-01-22, 19:35
Gia from Texas is back for a few weeks. Girls a high volume good quality hottie. Been doing her kegals.Was it days or nights? What does she look like? I'm headed there this weekend😀.
Was it days or nights? What does she look like? I'm headed there this weekend😀.Days yesterday. Tall slender and toned w / nice manmades. Long dark hair. Cool chick.
I'm Done with LS. Bad experience after bad. First valet was a dick, even after parking on the street he tells me I have to give him my keys and pay fee just to go in?? WTF. Went in anyway. Was there just a couple minutes, was at bar waiting on text from friend as to where we'd meet. Bartender had serious attitude said had to buy drink right then, fuck-it, said bye-bye and left. Too many other choices to put up with that crap.
Visited Landing String on Friday night. Line up was good.
A pretty girl named "River" approached and agreed to do extras for 2.
Once we went to downstairs her attitude totally changed and gave a lackluster lap dance. I just left in few minutes and my Friday night was totally ruined.
Such a waste of time and money.
I'm Done with LS. Bad experience after bad. First valet was a dick, even after parking on the street he tells me I have to give him my keys and pay fee just to go in?? WTF. Went in anyway. Was there just a couple minutes, was at bar waiting on text from friend as to where we'd meet. Bartender had serious attitude said had to buy drink right then, fuck-it, said bye-bye and left. Too many other choices to put up with that crap.Good for you. I just despise LS. They started getting GPS about 5 years ago, and their talent level isn't always that high. The Parking Nazis finally sealed the deal for me, and the LS is officially on my No Fly zone list. If I wanted hassles, I'd just go to work.
Electronman
06-03-22, 08:36
Any recommendations on clubs where the dancers sport butt plugs? I haven't visited Dream Girls (formerly Hustler Club in Lincoln Park) in several months but there used to be several girls who would perform nude on stage with butt plugs. Anyone with more recent experience at Dream Girls have any update?
CommonSteve666
06-03-22, 10:07
I'm Done with LS. Bad experience after bad. First valet was a dick, even after parking on the street he tells me I have to give him my keys and pay fee just to go in?? WTF. Went in anyway. Was there just a couple minutes, was at bar waiting on text from friend as to where we'd meet. Bartender had serious attitude said had to buy drink right then, fuck-it, said bye-bye and left. Too many other choices to put up with that crap.No doubt that LS is not for the bargain hunters. Valet is eight dollars last time I was there. I never saw the valet nor the price as much of an issue. Since strip clubs are businesses and it's not a park bench, requiring the purchase of a drink is fine. Do any of the clubs not require you to by a drink shortly after arrival? I see the reports on the SW thread and no GPS there. No valet, no drink minimum, maybe that's your best option.
Any recommendations on clubs where the dancers sport butt plugs? I haven't visited Dream Girls (formerly Hustler Club in Lincoln Park) in several months but there used to be several girls who would perform nude on stage with butt plugs. Anyone with more recent experience at Dream Girls have any update?Actually it's been awhile but pre-covid I saw quite a few with butt plugs at the Landing Strip.
Different Kennedy. PHC Kennedy now works between Coli and Legends under a different name. Still good for OTC though. Rumor is she ditched her pimp and can't work at FC bc his other girls work there.False. Same Kennedy. She works at FC on dayshift, and Legends etc on nightshift. Just saw her at FC within the last couple weeks.
JackOfClubs
06-03-22, 16:25
No doubt that LS is not for the bargain hunters. Valet is eight dollars last time I was there. I never saw the valet nor the price as much of an issue. Since strip clubs are businesses and it's not a park bench, requiring the purchase of a drink is fine. Do any of the clubs not require you to by a drink shortly after arrival? I see the reports on the SW thread and no GPS there. No valet, no drink minimum, maybe that's your best option.Agree 100% , nobody can expect to walk into a strip club and see near naked women wearing 7" heels and think they won't have to immediately buy a drink.
Stopped in around 3:30 this afternoon to meet with Nicole. Sure I'm not offering any new information but what a Sweetheart. Went back to VIP didn't even discuss details. Won't divulge how much I paid, I'm sure it was too much, I don't even care. Had a great time, made out a bit, DATY, BBBJ and finished me off BBFS. Sadly my old ass doesn't last very long, but it was a fun interlude, and I'll certainly repeat when in town. Enjoy, she's a nice girl, great body, great attitude, and is a Sure Thing!!
Agree 100% , nobody can expect to walk into a strip club and see near naked women wearing 7" heels and think they won't have to immediately buy a drink.True, and the guy was just waiting a few minutes until his party got there. This issue is that everyone there treats the cuttomers like shit. From valet to bouncers to dancers. They just are assholes. Used to be a cool place. Not any more.
Electronman
06-04-22, 05:29
Actually it's been awhile but pre-covid I saw quite a few with butt plugs at the Landing Strip.Humphrey: Thanks for the scouting report. I have been to the Landing Strip several times over the past 6 months and noticed that a few of the dancers who were wearing butt plugs during EARLY visits, had stopped wearing them. I asked one of the dancers why she was no longer wearing a butt plug on stage and she told me that management had banned the plugs after a dancer had an "accident" on stage during which a butt plug popped out during her stage performance. Not sure if that is true but it is a good story.
I used to see dancers wearing butt plugs at Dream Girls but I haven't visited that club in nearly 6 months.
Incognito1234
06-04-22, 19:21
Stopped in around 3:30 this afternoon to meet with Nicole. Sure I'm not offering any new information but what a Sweetheart. Went back to VIP didn't even discuss details. Won't divulge how much I paid, I'm sure it was too much, I don't even care. Had a great time, made out a bit, DATY, BBBJ and finished me off BBFS. Sadly my old ass doesn't last very long, but it was a fun interlude, and I'll certainly repeat when in town. Enjoy, she's a nice girl, great body, great attitude, and is a Sure Thing!!It's a pity that more girls aren't like Nicole. She's easily to deal with, never a hassle or an upsell and is a star performer. If I'm visiting on day shift, Nicole has been the one I typically see.
Admittedly, after my ripoff experience from a night shift girl (which I'm still pissed off about) and the multiple bust out nights, due to either lack of talent or lack of being able to come to an agreement, I've been going to the clubs much less now. I only frequent Henry's North and Bogart's and while I used to be in there once or sometimes twice a week, now, it's once every couple of weeks and dropping further. I'm tried of spending $40-60 on drinks and just going home because it was a bust out.
ChamberGone
06-04-22, 19:27
After several henrys trips I finally managed to get a chance with vixen. 5 pm on a Thursday. She was up at the pole dancing, slipped her a couple bucks. She pulled her panties to the side and showed me that lovely pussy of hers. Told her I wanted some company. Gave her eyes throughout her set just before she got done some other girl sat at my table and was just chatting away. Clearly wasn't paying attention to her, but it was enough vixen didn't come over to me. I excused myself to go to the bathroom and when I was done went up behind vixen and goosed her ass and asked her if she was ready for that dance. Sshe took me to the back. She apologized for not coming over but she wasn't trying to step on the other girls shoes, said she was sorry we didn't get the chance to talk business. She offered 200 BBFS no song count, my dick said sure why not and went to town. Her head skills are wonderful, sucked it for a few songs then stood up and told me to give it to her. Popped it in and asked if I could cum inside her, she said no. I made it maybe two of three pumps before it was go time and sprayed it all over her ass. I got to say, its times like this when being a two pump chump really sucks ass haha oh well, over payed but it was still fun, and she's a good girl. Very much my type, big titties, thicc, and nice gothy vibes. I meant to ask her about take out, but my post nut regret set it too hard and I got out of there.Damn being a two pump chump myself I feel you, what providers do you recommend that give second chances??
She Hate Me
06-04-22, 20:05
Humphrey: Thanks for the scouting report. I have been to the Landing Strip several times over the past 6 months and noticed that a few of the dancers who were wearing butt plugs during EARLY visits, had stopped wearing them. I asked one of the dancers why she was no longer wearing a butt plug on stage and she told me that management had banned the plugs after a dancer had an "accident" on stage during which a butt plug popped out during her stage performance. Not sure if that is true but it is a good story.
I used to see dancers wearing butt plugs at Dream Girls but I haven't visited that club in nearly 6 months.I was there in March for the first time. I was unaware they could show their pussy on stage there and serve alcohol but they do. One girl did wear a butt plug. I wanted to take her to VIP but she wanted $300 for a CBJ and it went up from there. Insane. I didn't try to negotiate.
Time Twist
06-05-22, 02:34
I think I might just go with a high end escort instead of dealing with these clubs. Strippers make it feel rushed and the VIP rooms are not as great as an apartment or nice hotel room.I haven't found one gal I would consider to be a high end escort in Detroit.
Sanctimonious6
06-05-22, 07:31
I haven't found one gal I would consider to be a high end escort in Detroit.Two words for you: Alita Lee. Though she recently had a baby and is not currently active.
OnTheRoad2019
06-05-22, 09:25
Two words for you: Alita Lee. Though she recently had a baby and is not currently active.Jesus I wish I knew she was available before. I would drop $350 for 30 minutes ins heartbeat.
Has she said anything anywhere when she'll be back to work? ❤65039;.
I haven't found one gal I would consider to be a high end escort in Detroit.They're aren't nearly as many as there were before (SESTA, FOSTA or whatever those laws' acronyms are, that were pushed by hypocritical / double-standard right-wing cocknoggles), or especially in the aughts. But they exist.
Since the quantity of high-paying mongers appears to be less in Detroit than other major cities, the higher-end eacorts tend to travel frequently. One of the places that they post often, is Twitter.
https://twitter.com/alitaleelee ? And she used to charge $350 for 30 min?
Two words for you: Alita Lee. Though she recently had a baby and is not currently active.
JohnHardcore
06-05-22, 20:57
Stopped in around 3:30 this afternoon to meet with Nicole. Sure I'm not offering any new information but what a Sweetheart. Went back to VIP didn't even discuss details. Won't divulge how much I paid, I'm sure it was too much, I don't even care. Had a great time, made out a bit, DATY, BBBJ and finished me off BBFS. Sadly my old ass doesn't last very long, but it was a fun interlude, and I'll certainly repeat when in town. Enjoy, she's a nice girl, great body, great attitude, and is a Sure Thing!!Did she let you finish inside her?
JohnHardcore
06-05-22, 21:05
After several henrys trips I finally managed to get a chance with vixen. 5 pm on a Thursday. She was up at the pole dancing, slipped her a couple bucks. She pulled her panties to the side and showed me that lovely pussy of hers. Told her I wanted some company. Gave her eyes throughout her set just before she got done some other girl sat at my table and was just chatting away. Clearly wasn't paying attention to her, but it was enough vixen didn't come over to me. I excused myself to go to the bathroom and when I was done went up behind vixen and goosed her ass and asked her if she was ready for that dance. Sshe took me to the back. She apologized for not coming over but she wasn't trying to step on the other girls shoes, said she was sorry we didn't get the chance to talk business. She offered 200 BBFS no song count, my dick said sure why not and went to town. Her head skills are wonderful, sucked it for a few songs then stood up and told me to give it to her. Popped it in and asked if I could cum inside her, she said no. I made it maybe two of three pumps before it was go time and sprayed it all over her ass. I got to say, its times like this when being a two pump chump really sucks ass haha oh well, over payed but it was still fun, and she's a good girl. Very much my type, big titties, thicc, and nice gothy vibes. I meant to ask her about take out, but my post nut regret set it too hard and I got out of there.LOL it happenes to the best of us sometimes. I guess it's better than not finishing at all.
Went to H8's this Sunday, 3 dancers looked alright. Kelly (white girl small tits a little bit of a stomach pooch), Pixie and Chocolate (tall thin ebony girls). Kelly was sitting with a dude the entire night, talked with Pixie and wanted 350 for CBJ and cfs, refused daty and BBBJ. Got her asking price down to 200, but CBJ is a deal breaker. Chocolate sat with a guy that bought her drinks and then she had to go up and dance, so I left. There was also a skinny white dancer that looked kinda cute that was dressed in a hoodie. Came out and bought something from the vending machine, started walking back and the manager started argueing with her, I guess she was passed out high for most of the day. Anyway, looked cute.
I arrived at 8:30 Monday evening, some dancers names I remember are Ryder, Tania, Princess, Jade, India, and Daisy, a couple others showed up but didn't make it out from the back while I was there. I talked with Jade the lat.
St time I was there and she stopped by my table. After a few minutes of chatting we went back first part uncovered, covered second half, total cost 182, for cover troll fee and 2 beers. I will repeat.
WillyMatt123
06-07-22, 09:50
So I have zero experience with stip clubs in the last 20 years. Mainly due to my location I would guess. I'm an east sider and they are none on my side of town. Been reading the forum quite a bit and am wondering, if I drive to the west side, and had to go on day shift to maybe H8. Listing says they open at noon. Are the dancers there at noon? Or do they straggel in whenever they wake up for the day? Would anyone be there around 1 pm? Don't want to drive an hour to an empty bar then have to head back. Thanks!
So I have zero experience with stip clubs in the last 20 years. Mainly due to my location I would guess. I'm an east sider and they are none on my side of town. Been reading the forum quite a bit and am wondering, if I drive to the west side, and had to go on day shift to maybe H8. Listing says they open at noon. Are the dancers there at noon? Or do they straggel in whenever they wake up for the day? Would anyone be there around 1 pm? Don't want to drive an hour to an empty bar then have to head back. Thanks!When I go for day shift, I usually wait until around 1:00 ish. (all the dancers are there and dressed by then) or wait until around 6. At this time, their shift is almost over and they want to make every dollar they can before it's over so a lot of times, their willing to go lower on their prices. Especially if it's been a slow shift.
So I have zero experience with stip clubs in the last 20 years. Mainly due to my location I would guess. I'm an east sider and they are none on my side of town. Been reading the forum quite a bit and am wondering, if I drive to the west side, and had to go on day shift to maybe H8. Listing says they open at noon. Are the dancers there at noon? Or do they straggel in whenever they wake up for the day? Would anyone be there around 1 pm? Don't want to drive an hour to an empty bar then have to head back. Thanks!There will be dancers present and dancing shortly after noon in my experience. More girls will straggle in later but I have always went close to noon.
Too many choices to put up with a shitty attitude. It's still a "Service Industry" Of course expected to purchase a drink. Or several, but to get an attitude when asking for a moment to see what's happening well they can go fuck themselves!
No doubt that LS is not for the bargain hunters. Valet is eight dollars last time I was there. I never saw the valet nor the price as much of an issue. Since strip clubs are businesses and it's not a park bench, requiring the purchase of a drink is fine. Do any of the clubs not require you to by a drink shortly after arrival? I see the reports on the SW thread and no GPS there. No valet, no drink minimum, maybe that's your best option.
Did she let you finish inside her?Both Nicole and Vixen will allow CIP with the correct negotiations.
Telecaster
06-08-22, 11:29
Different Kennedy. PHC Kennedy now works between Coli and Legends under a different name. Still good for OTC though. Rumor is she ditched her pimp and can't work at FC bc his other girls work there.It is the same Kennedy that worked at PH.
She currently works between Legends, FC, and Coli.
Member #1716
06-08-22, 16:29
Both Nicole and Vixen will allow CIP with the correct negotiations.Never ask, let the girl tell you, if they say nothing then let things take their course!
DoinTheDeed
06-08-22, 17:19
Was on my way to bogarts on Tuesday and decided to stop at H 8th as I drove by it was early (just after 1 pm). Cloud was small and only 4 dancers available. Was getting ready to leave when a brunet stopped by and asked if I wanted company. Name was Melony. Very attractive, nice smile, well endowed. Took me in the back to play for "as long as it took to get the job done". Played for a bit, then she rolled a cover on and proceeded to give me a great CBJ. Probably paid on the higher end ($120) but considering the fact that we played for a while and wasn't rushed I felt it was well worth it. She seemed to enjoy it as much as I did. Will repeat.
Was on my way to bogarts on Tuesday and decided to stop at H 8th as I drove by it was early (just after 1 pm). Cloud was small and only 4 dancers available. Was getting ready to leave when a brunet stopped by and asked if I wanted company. Name was Melony. Very attractive, nice smile, well endowed. Took me in the back to play for "as long as it took to get the job done". Played for a bit, then she rolled a cover on and proceeded to give me a great CBJ. Probably paid on the higher end ($120) but considering the fact that we played for a while and wasn't rushed I felt it was well worth it. She seemed to enjoy it as much as I did. Will repeat.Was at Henry's on Sunday and was kinda slow with only 3 girls working when I was there. Stayed for about 3 drinks and didn't feel a good vibe so headed home and enjoyed the rest of the night with my ATF that is staying with me so it was a good time again.
Original Man 78
06-09-22, 13:00
I'm glad you found something in Hanks. I was there briefly Tuesday afternoon around the same time and after getting quoted by one of the black dancers $200 for a CBJ I left.
Was on my way to bogarts on Tuesday and decided to stop at H 8th as I drove by it was early (just after 1 pm). Cloud was small and only 4 dancers available. Was getting ready to leave when a brunet stopped by and asked if I wanted company. Name was Melony. Very attractive, nice smile, well endowed. Took me in the back to play for "as long as it took to get the job done". Played for a bit, then she rolled a cover on and proceeded to give me a great CBJ. Probably paid on the higher end ($120) but considering the fact that we played for a while and wasn't rushed I felt it was well worth it. She seemed to enjoy it as much as I did. Will repeat.
SilentStorm
06-09-22, 22:33
Hey guys, I checked out cricket this Tuesday. Almost at end of day shift and few minutes in, Chole comes and sits. Mixed. Native Indian / Caucasian? Middle eastern? . I'd guess mid 20's.
Here is my simple report. Someone to avoid. But on the other hand, she has a young body that might be worth pushing your luck.
Very aggressive at the table in trying to go back. And says she does escorting and will give number after VIP. Wanted $300 1st and then comes down to $200-250. I told her I'll get a couple of dances and once back. Mid 1st song, she starts to pull my pants off. Very aggressive to have extras. I stop her and said dance is enough and here we are in the 2nd song. I was done and ready to leave. She wanted a 100 and said she will discount next visit when having extras since she hasn't made any money today. LOL and then can you do 80 . Next she drops to additional 20 on top of 2 songs since she charges extra for nude. No sweety.
I walked out handing 40.
All this points to is poor service once you fall for her aggressive hustle. But if you can negotiate ahead and not pay upfront. And you can pull it off. It's a good set of assets to have fun with.
Happy hunting.
Never ask, let the girl tell you, if they say nothing then let things take their course!Bros remember this when they slap that puss up in your face and you are tempted to indulge. Some of these tacos are getting many sour creams a day. Not nearly as easy to clean as a mouth.
Never ask, let the girl tell you, if they say nothing then let things take their course!VERY bad idea unless you are negotiated a price/expectations up front. If you want to leave it vague you can, FS vis CFS or BBFS but you need to get the amount figured out before hand or we will see one of those she tried to charge me X then the bouncer came in reviews.
Member #1716
06-10-22, 15:34
VERY bad idea unless you are negotiated a price/expectations up front. If you want to leave it vague you can, FS vis CFS or BBFS but you need to get the amount figured out before hand or we will see one of those she tried to charge me X then the bouncer came in reviews.I was only referring to CIP during BBFS, of course you set price before hand. I don't ask if I can CIP and if she doesn't say anything then its whatever happens.
Jules Jordan
06-10-22, 22:03
Alasia, Carmon, Chy, Dallas, Princess, Sweet, Thai, and Vegas were at BT's. A so-so lineup. No one new there today that interested me, so I bailed after a beer.
Capri, Cheyanne, Chloe, Desire, Elizabeth, Jordan, Sasha, Selena, Star, Stormy, and Taylor were at Criket. Another so-so lineup. Selena, a slender 20's Latina, interested me, but she was busy with a customer.
Bogart's had at least ten dancers. Annabelle, Cali, GG, Sabrina, and Tori were some names. As expected, most of the lineup was older and / or overweight.
Cali is mid-30's, white, dyed pink hair, B-cup tits, taller height, and has tats. Her inspired / passionate VIP performance today was good. She had no gag reflex for the uncovered first half. I would repeat.
I spent about 200 total today for a beer at each place, Bogart's cover charge, Bogart's VIP fee, dances at Bogart's, and tips.
Was at Bt's day shift today, Fiona, Sweet and Jordan looked good. Sweet is 22, has dreads and tattoos and is clean dance only. Notice she has a hustle where she will sit next to a guy right before she goes up on stage, will get tips from guys and ignores them to sit with the original guy making him feel special to sell her clean dances. Worked every time. I tipped Fiona and Jordan, but they never came over. Alasia came by as I was about to leave, she's a bit overweight and not that pretty, but the price was right at 120 for BBBJ. Skilled mouth got me off in record time and she swallowed.
Juggernaut8519
06-11-22, 02:18
Anybody has any intel on Ruby, Luxurie / Melani from Deja Vu Ypsi? They were my ATF's over there.
Hey guys, I checked out cricket this Tuesday. Almost at end of day shift and few minutes in, Chole comes and sits. Mixed. Native Indian / Caucasian? Middle eastern? . I'd guess mid 20's.
Here is my simple report. Someone to avoid. But on the other hand, she has a young body that might be worth pushing your luck.
Very aggressive at the table in trying to go back. And says she does escorting and will give number after VIP. Wanted $300 1st and then comes down to $200-250. I told her I'll get a couple of dances and once back. Mid 1st song, she starts to pull my pants off. Very aggressive to have extras. I stop her and said dance is enough and here we are in the 2nd song. I was done and ready to leave. She wanted a 100 and said she will discount next visit when having extras since she hasn't made any money today. LOL and then can you do 80 . Next she drops to additional 20 on top of 2 songs since she charges extra for nude. No sweety.
I walked out handing 40.
All this points to is poor service once you fall for her aggressive hustle. But if you can negotiate ahead and not pay upfront. And you can pull it off. It's a good set of assets to have fun with.
Happy hunting.I definitely got a weird vibe talking to her at table, glad I passed and did not do VIP with her, really was not my type, atleast she did not scam you for more money.
Anyone else think stripclubs are a indicator of recessions? Many clubs seem to be low on patrons since inflation. Suppose same could be said for other bars, restaurants, etc. Oddly Casinos not impacted as much. You would think supply and demand would lower strippers prices but they have "pussyflation" as well. Quality of dancers seems down a little in many places as well. Thoughts? https://nypost.com/2022/05/30/im-a-stripper-we-can-read-the-markets-better-than-bankers/.
Anyone else think stripclubs are a indicator of recessions? Many clubs seem to be low on patrons since inflation. Suppose same could be said for other bars, restaurants, etc. Oddly Casinos not impacted as much. You would think supply and demand would lower strippers prices but they have "pussyflation" as well. Quality of dancers seems down a little in many places as well. Thoughts? https://nypost.com/2022/05/30/im-a-stripper-we-can-read-the-markets-better-than-bankers/.This was discussed a few weeks back if you search a few pages you'll find it. I wholeheartedly agree, a lot of frivolous spending, slowing or dropping is a leading indicator. The handful of people still buying new cars at double mrsp or bidding over asking on a home are going to be so under water by the end of the year it's not even funny. They're still drinking the Kool aid. Exceptions to everything like a mansion in Birmingham will fair better than a mansion in Taylor or Holly or the guy ordering a new Ferrari will hold more value even above sticker than an idiot paying 25% more than mrsp on a Civic. Yes I know people that have done this. I'm my line of work I get interesting details and can tell you this, the lower middle income clients of mine are making far dumber financial choices the past 2 months then the wealthy clients of mine. The wealthy ones seem to have sold second homes last year at very, very nice profits and are holding onto their cars instead of buying or leasing a new one. Between credit card rates and monthly payment increases on those, gas, electricity and food and this current quarters 401 k statements people are going to wake up and freak out. No more door dash, no more weekend getaways, less everything.
For perspective income levels I'm assuming based on occupations and house value. Wealthy clients seem to have 3 to 10 mm net worth with at least 2 mm increase since 2018. The lower middle clients make 65 to 80 k a year. I could be off on what's really middle, upper class income but that's my soft definition. Lastly all we need is this quarters GDP to be neg to be in a recession. Sometimes they're minor. This is going to be a deep and bad one. Keep an eye out for a lot more layoffs.
CommonSteve666
06-15-22, 09:46
Anyone else think stripclubs are a indicator of recessions? Many clubs seem to be low on patrons since inflation. Suppose same could be said for other bars, restaurants, etc. Oddly Casinos not impacted as much. You would think supply and demand would lower strippers prices but they have "pussyflation" as well. Quality of dancers seems down a little in many places as well. Thoughts? https://nypost.com/2022/05/30/im-a-stripper-we-can-read-the-markets-better-than-bankers/.I'll say more people stay away because of all the fees, lackluster performances, not a lot of ladies that are really appealing, 10 dollar beer. Disposable income is less for all but I'd argue the factors above and not the price of groceries keep people away. If things slow down I'm sure the strategy among managers and dancers will be to raise prices, thinking they can just charge double to half the traffic. Good luck with that.
Marelobo Mex
06-15-22, 11:48
I'll say more people stay away because of all the fees, lackluster performances, not a lot of ladies that are really appealing, 10 dollar beer. Disposable income is less for all but I'd argue the factors above and not the price of groceries keep people away. If things slow down I'm sure the strategy among managers and dancers will be to raise prices, thinking they can just charge double to half the traffic. Good luck with that.I agree, the clubs are going to raise fees. The girls are going to raise prices. Neither one has a choice This is simple supply and demand, as the demand of customer recedes because what it cost to fill up a tank of gas and drive to the strip club means less guys are going. The strip clubs can't make up lost revenue for having less customers. The only option is to get more revenue from the remaining customers left.
More girls may take up stripping because they can't make enough money to cover inflations but increasing the supply of dancers will only put further upward pressure on prices. As each dancer will take less customers to the VIP each night. For stripping to be viable for them they also cannot increase their earnings by doing more session per night. The strippers I talk to who used to work 3 or 4 nights a week are now working 5 or 6 nights a week, and obviously increasing the number of days a person works per week can only get up to 7. Most girls won't work 7 days a week anyway again meaning the only choice is to raise prices.
Inflation flows through the whole system including the strip club. Prices once raised tend to be permanent. Even if the economy gets going and tons of people have money to spend a new normal is being set on pricing right now the will remain for the future.
If you can't afford the higher price then your choices are either go less often for what you can afford or stop going completely.
MM.
Tuna Helper
06-15-22, 22:52
Does anyone know what strip club Linzee Ryder is going to be at tomorrow (Thursday) night?
I agree, the clubs are going to raise fees. The girls are going to raise prices. Neither one has a choice This is simple supply and demand, as the demand of customer recedes because what it cost to fill up a tank of gas and drive to the strip club means less guys are going. The strip clubs can't make up lost revenue for having less customers. The only option is to get more revenue from the remaining customers left.
More girls may take up stripping because they can't make enough money to cover inflations but increasing the supply of dancers will only put further upward pressure on prices. As each dancer will take less customers to the VIP each night. For stripping to be viable for them they also cannot increase their earnings by doing more session per night. The strippers I talk to who used to work 3 or 4 nights a week are now working 5 or 6 nights a week, and obviously increasing the number of days a person works per week can only get up to 7. Most girls won't work 7 days a week anyway again meaning the only choice is to raise prices.
Inflation flows through the whole system including the strip club. Prices once raised tend to be permanent. Even if the economy gets going and tons of people have money to spend a new normal is being set on pricing right now the will remain for the future.
If you can't afford the higher price then your choices are either go less often for what you can afford or stop going completely.
MM.I suggest that you might want to read the book of this name by Thomas Sowell. Your analysis is 100% wrong according to "basic economics". In any case, perhaps we should get back to the important stuff.
SomeDetroitGuy
06-16-22, 08:50
I agree, the clubs are going to raise fees. The girls are going to raise prices. Neither one has a choice This is simple supply and demand, as the demand of customer recedes because what it cost to fill up a tank of gas and drive to the strip club means less guys are going. The strip clubs can't make up lost revenue for having less customers. The only option is to get more revenue from the remaining customers left.
More girls may take up stripping because they can't make enough money to cover inflations but increasing the supply of dancers will only put further upward pressure on prices. As each dancer will take less customers to the VIP each night. For stripping to be viable for them they also cannot increase their earnings by doing more session per night. The strippers I talk to who used to work 3 or 4 nights a week are now working 5 or 6 nights a week, and obviously increasing the number of days a person works per week can only get up to 7. Most girls won't work 7 days a week anyway again meaning the only choice is to raise prices.
Inflation flows through the whole system including the strip club. Prices once raised tend to be permanent. Even if the economy gets going and tons of people have money to spend a new normal is being set on pricing right now the will remain for the future.
If you can't afford the higher price then your choices are either go less often for what you can afford or stop going completely.
MM.In classic economics, weakened demand lowers prices. They absolutely do have a choice of lowering versus raising prices. If there are fewer clients for all the clubs to chase, raising prices is suicidal as they have other options amd can just go elsewhere.
JackOfClubs
06-16-22, 18:18
In classic economics, weakened demand lowers prices. They absolutely do have a choice of lowering versus raising prices. If there are fewer clients for all the clubs to chase, raising prices is suicidal as they have other options amd can just go elsewhere.Correct!! For example, more drugs / fewer junkies lowers the price on the streets, same economics applies with strippers vs fewer customers.
Correct!! For example, more drugs / fewer junkies lowers the price on the streets, same economics applies with strippers vs fewer customers.Exactly! When the ratio of dudes to strippers is 10 to 1, they'll charge whatever the market will bear. When it's 10 strippers in a bar and only one guy walks in, and IF that situation persists, they'll be offering '2 for 1' dances, discounts for regulars, buy one beer get one free, whatever they have to do to get more guys in.
Exactly! When the ratio of dudes to strippers is 10 to 1, they'll charge whatever the market will bear. When it's 10 strippers in a bar and only one guy walks in, and IF that situation persists, they'll be offering '2 for 1' dances, discounts for regulars, buy one beer get one free, whatever they have to do to get more guys in.Yes and No. The demand for extras is highly inelastic. (Like gas). When the price goes up, demand only comes down a little. Therefore if there are ten dancers, and one guy, he is still likely to pay the same price. Extras are a necessity good.
Demand may be inelastic, but the guy's ability to pay $200 for it will go down in a bad economy. What goes first? A $12 pack of cigarettes or a $250 trip to the strip club? Porn is still free.
LotharioPK
06-17-22, 08:29
Just hooked up with a relatively new escort in Ann Arbor who says she used to dance at Bogart's. Didn't say whether she danced using that name. Mid-20's, dark blond hair, carmel complexion, you get the idea. I don't go to the clubs myself, but if any of you know or remember her you may want to sample her wares in Ypsi. Check out my review in the Ann Arbor Escort forum.
Sanctimonious6
06-17-22, 09:19
The level of economics expertise exhibited on this thread is breathtaking.
I have a perv friend in his late 70's and still goes to strip clubs. He always complains about how the dancers never approach him so I told him to just flash a few Benjamin's and see if that makes a difference. Generally speaking many strippers don't care what ya look or even smell like as long as the Ben Franklins are properly deposited. (Some exceptions of course) Not much luck in writing your Congressman on this one. LOL Thoughts.
I have a perv friend in his late 70's and still goes to strip clubs. He always complains about how the dancers never approach him so I told him to just flash a few Benjamin's and see if that makes a difference. Generally speaking many strippers don't care what ya look or even smell like as long as the Ben Franklins are properly deposited. (Some exceptions of course) Not much luck in writing your Congressman on this one. LOL Thoughts.I think most girls like it if you smell good and dress well. Especially if you're older. It shows you respect yourself and ultimately respect them in a way. You will prob get better service / attention.
JamieGreek2019
06-18-22, 13:31
That made me laugh out loud!
Stay safe,
J.
The level of economics expertise exhibited on this thread is breathtaking.
I have a perv friend in his late 70's and still goes to strip clubs. He always complains about how the dancers never approach him so I told him to just flash a few Benjamin's and see if that makes a difference. Generally speaking many strippers don't care what ya look or even smell like as long as the Ben Franklins are properly deposited. (Some exceptions of course) Not much luck in writing your Congressman on this one. LOL Thoughts.He is doing something else wrong. Dancers love customers who don't last long; pricing is same for most dancers regardless of how quickly someone shoots. If there is age discrimination, it is more likely toward younger patrons, as they can be more demanding, often bargain-hunting, trying to get freebies OTC, being more obnoxious. Over the years, many dancers have told me that they dislike younger customers, especially in groups, and especially on weekends. They don't buy as many dances or privates, and waste their time.
So in regard to your septugenarian pal, he is not asking the right questions, or maybe he is too cheap, who knows. Certain customers attract more attention than others. They generally present as being willing to part with cash, look good or at least presentable, know how to make eye contact, chat, or tip a waitress to get a dancer over.
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Tuesday I stopped by H8 and at around 530.4 or 5 girls working. Probably 7 customers in the bar. Saw Nicole dancing and I've always thought she gave great service. I know guys have been blown away by her oral skills but I think they are about middle of the road. I talked to her for a bit and she agreed to let me visit the Greek islands (180). Gets me ready with a BBBJ and then the cover then put me in the back door. She couldn't take it for long but it was very nice. Saw Sin and she started with a quote of 200 for a CBJ. I countered with 80, she countered with 150. I told her I've never paid over 100 for a BBBJ amd I don't plan to start. She said she might be back around. Then I saw a very skinny blonde dancing at around 7 ish. I tipped her and told her to stop by my table. When she got down and sat down it was the most awkward conversation I've ever had with a stripper. Took her way to long to answer any question I'd ask. She was sexy so I asked about a BJ. She said I could but a 30 min dance and what happens happens. I've been there before and it never ends good. Decided to cut my night short and leave.
JamieGreek2019
06-20-22, 10:09
Gents-.
There was a report two months back that Quill (also went by Lyric) was dancing again. Spent some quality time with her pre-rona and would love to see her again. Several years back see danced at LS, Bogarts and SC. See's a petite, tattooed blond (at least she was back then). Anyone seen her lately? Thanks in adbance.
This is her BTW:
Gents-.
There was a report two months back that Quill (also went by Lyric) was dancing again. Spent some quality time with her pre-rona and would love to see her again. Several years back see danced at LS, Bogarts and SC. See's a petite, tattooed blond (at least she was back then). Anyone seen her lately? Thanks in adbance.
This is her BTW:She was at SC back in March, haven't seen her in a while.
Tuesday I stopped by H8 and at around 530.4 or 5 girls working. Probably 7 customers in the bar. Saw Nicole dancing and I've always thought she gave great service. I know guys have been blown away by her oral skills but I think they are about middle of the road. I talked to her for a bit and she agreed to let me visit the Greek islands (180). Gets me ready with a BBBJ and then the cover then put me in the back door. She couldn't take it for long but it was very nice. Saw Sin and she started with a quote of 200 for a CBJ. I countered with 80, she countered with 150. I told her I've never paid over 100 for a BBBJ amd I don't plan to start. She said she might be back around. Then I saw a very skinny blonde dancing at around 7 ish. I tipped her and told her to stop by my table. When she got down and sat down it was the most awkward conversation I've ever had with a stripper. Took her way to long to answer any question I'd ask. She was sexy so I asked about a BJ. She said I could but a 30 min dance and what happens happens. I've been there before and it never ends good. Decided to cut my night short and leave.Your description of the blonde dancer you met at 7 pm with the akward conversation sounds like Shea from the cricket.
AirPilot69
06-21-22, 08:50
Your description of the blonde dancer you met at 7 pm with the akward conversation sounds like Shea from the cricket.Cricket good dancers.
Your description of the blonde dancer you met at 7 pm with the akward conversation sounds like Shea from the cricket.Shay is definitely not "very skinny"; she has a real nice body, but a very long stretch to call her skinny.
Some dancers were Ivy, Anastasia, Sparkle, Alasia, Katie and Devin. Sparkle is a short skinny black girl with nice perky tits. Katie is a very skinny white girl. Devin was the best looking one, white, blonde, fit but still soft all over, b or c tits, no tats.
Took Devin to the VIP, wanted 250 for CBJ, negotiated down to 200. Average BJ, one song blowing, one song HJ while sitting up so you can see her nice body and pretty face. By the 6th song she asks if I'm going to be finished soon because most guys finish by now. I ask for one more song of BJ then we stop, I say I take longer with a condom. 4/10 experience.
Electronman
06-21-22, 22:36
Some dancers were Ivy, Anastasia, Sparkle, Alasia, Katie and Devin. Sparkle is a short skinny black girl with nice perky tits. Katie is a very skinny white girl. Devin was the best looking one, white, blonde, fit but still soft all over, b or c tits, no tats.
Took Devin to the VIP, wanted 250 for CBJ, negotiated down to 200. Average BJ, one song blowing, one song HJ while sitting up so you can see her nice body and pretty face. By the 6th song she asks if I'm going to be finished soon because most guys finish by now. I ask for one more song of BJ then we stop, I say I take longer with a condom. 4/10 experience.Bunny, an attractive black dancer, also works at BT's in the afternoon. Provide a very good private dance. Highly recommended.
PackMan3135
06-22-22, 21:12
Some dancers were Ivy, Anastasia, Sparkle, Alasia, Katie and Devin. Sparkle is a short skinny black girl with nice perky tits. Katie is a very skinny white girl. Devin was the best looking one, white, blonde, fit but still soft all over, b or c tits, no tats.
Took Devin to the VIP, wanted 250 for CBJ, negotiated down to 200. Average BJ, one song blowing, one song HJ while sitting up so you can see her nice body and pretty face. By the 6th song she asks if I'm going to be finished soon because most guys finish by now. I ask for one more song of BJ then we stop, I say I take longer with a condom. 4/10 experience.Any other black girls on day shift doing extras? Do you know there names and what they look like?
Any other black girls on day shift doing extras? Do you know there names and what they look like?There were 3 others, but I didn't pay much attention to them. I prefer them on the slim side.
Someone007
06-24-22, 07:05
Some dancers were Ivy, Anastasia, Sparkle, Alasia, Katie and Devin. Sparkle is a short skinny black girl with nice perky tits. Katie is a very skinny white girl. Devin was the best looking one, white, blonde, fit but still soft all over, b or c tits, no tats.
Took Devin to the VIP, wanted 250 for CBJ, negotiated down to 200. Average BJ, one song blowing, one song HJ while sitting up so you can see her nice body and pretty face. By the 6th song she asks if I'm going to be finished soon because most guys finish by now. I ask for one more song of BJ then we stop, I say I take longer with a condom. 4/10 experience.I had a session with Sparkle during my dtw visit. I got her for $ for CBJ. No dance. Very mechanical and clock watcher rushed session.
Jules Jordan
06-24-22, 21:17
At least twelve dancers there with sparse customers. Akita, Alasia, Anna, Bunny, Katie, Sparkle, Summer, Thai, Vegas, and Wavy were some names. Overall, a decent lineup of primarily fit and young talent. Almost an equal split between black and white dancers. I did separate VIP sessions with Akita and Bunny. Neither required a cover for the first half. Both performed well, although Chocolate at H8 North is still my current favorite ebony dancer.
I spent about 340 total today for two beers, VIP fees, and dances. Please don't repost pictures from my reports.
Don't recall her name, has anyone ever gotten anything other than drinks from the Knockout Short Spinner Bartender from H8? I've spoken to her and told her she should be dancing, but never asked if she did private shows in VIP? Amazing little body, would pay a premium to see her back there. LOL.
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