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11-01-08, 08:35
Yikes, didn't mean to cause an argument, Verotica. I thought I'd apologized, but evidently I did a bad job of it. So, umm, again, sorry. :(
Anyway, yeah, you have a right to say, "I'm a sex addict too." I didn't mean to disparage that.
I think you can probably see, however, despite the above, where I'm coming from. My (admittedly rather long-winded) anecdote about Pablo et al. goes more to my point, than any accidentally negative comment I made toward you, Verotica. Maybe I was too long-winded. I'll try to put it tersely. What I'm getting at is, simply, the following notion:
Most male sexual addiction, and male lack of adequate access to sexuality, are essentially the same.
(Sure, there are some men who, even if they had enough sex enough of the time with hot-enough partners for free, would still be controlled by their addiction to the point of dysfunction. Yup, they're a different kettle of fish. And sure, the question of female sexual addiction isn't discussed in that sentence of mine. Yup, you're a different kettle of fish, too.)
And I think that this straightforward formulation is the heart of the matter. If most men GOT ENOUGH AT ALL then most men wouldn't be UNHAPPY ABOUT HOW THE DRIVE FOR SEX CONTROLS US.
Frankly, the only thing I need, to "fix" my need for sexuality, is more sex. It's not like I'm obsessive, or desperate, or somehow living a bad or imbalanced life. It's just a straightforward formula. Level of desire? 99 out of 100. Level of access? 1 out of 100. Discrepancy? 98. A 98% discrepancy between what I want, and getting what I want, is by definition an unhappy life. There ya go, that's my "sexual addiction" in a nutshell.
I'm sure there are other intelligent tangents to take that subject. I was responding to your initial post, Verotica, from the point of view of wishing to convey that simple nutshell, nothing more. You can see now how you're really almost contradicting my intent? I know you didn't mean to, but it ends up being that way anyway.
Presuming, of course, you're for real at all. :)
One thing for sure that makes men's addiction different than women is accessibility. If men had access to sex they won't feel they are addicted. Women definitely have more access that's why the market of supply and demand gave them the chance to charge for it. There is no free sex. Even the one that might seem free it ends up to be the most expensive one. So what's addiction?
The term "addiction" is used in many contexts to describe an obsession, compulsion, or excessive physical dependence or psychological dependence, such as: drug addiction, alcoholism, compulsive overeating, problem gambling, computer addiction, etc.
In medical terminology, addiction is a state in which the body relies on a substance for normal functioning and develops physical dependence, as in drug addiction. When a state of Chemistry on which someone is dependent is suddenly removed, it will cause withdrawal, a characteristic set of signs and symptoms. In physiological terms, addiction is not necessarily associated with substance abuse since this form of addiction can result from using medication as prescribed by a doctor.
The term addiction is also sometimes applied to compulsions that are not substance-related, such as sex and computer addiction. In these kinds of common usages, the term addiction is used to describe a recurring compulsion by an individual to engage in some specific activity, despite harmful consequences to the individual's health, mental state or social life.
However, common usage of the term addiction has spread to include psychological dependence. In this context, the term is used in drug addiction and substance abuse problems, but also refers to behaviours that are not generally recognised by the medical community as problems of addiction, such as compulsive sex.
Such as Verotica though she has solutions for the problem one of them is do not charge for the hour. Let your customer know he can spend as much time I am sure you will find men like myself.
First of all, your logic as it applies to my remarks is captious. Yes, I wanted you all to know that there are women sex addicts. But your (men's) acceptance or rejection of that fact has nothing to to do with how I act, or how any woman acts. I don't need your permission, or even understanding, to conduct my life as I choose.
Secondly, you seem to be under the impression that, since I service men all day in my profession, my only function on this site is to somehow be of service to the men. Your implication that my post doesn't necessarily apply to all of the men on this site is correct; however, it does apply to sex addiction, which is what this thread is about, and I know that some men share my frustration at needing several hours of solid sex to to feel "done."
Much like Teabag X posted in an earlier response, I'm merely affirming that "I am a sex addict and that's OK" (from Teabags X's post).
Tomkat4848
11-01-08, 11:38
First of all, your logic as it applies to my remarks is captious. Yes, I wanted you all to know that there are women sex addicts. But your (men's) acceptance or rejection of that fact has nothing to to do with how I act, or how any woman acts. I don't need your permission, or even understanding, to conduct my life as I choose.
Secondly, you seem to be under the impression that, since I service men all day in my profession, my only function on this site is to somehow be of service to the men. Your implication that my post doesn't necessarily apply to all of the men on this site is correct; however, it does apply to sex addiction, which is what this thread is about, and I know that some men share my frustration at needing several hours of solid sex to to feel "done."
Much like Teabag X posted in an earlier response, I'm merely affirming that "I am a sex addict and that's OK" (from Teabags X's post).
Verotica, there may be some women sex addicts or nymphos in this world. But the bottom line is that over 90% of the time men are paying women for the sexual relations they have together. Also it is not my intention to insult you but a friend of mine made the accurate observation that women control 70% of the money and own 100% of the p*ssy.
Hot female sex addicts can become providers (given a set of other characteristics and willingnesses etc.); horny male sex addicts can seldom do the same for themselves. Most of us on this thread would LOVE to be able to wave a magic wand and change the world such that we were paid-for-play gigolos with nothing but nubile, beautiful, desperately horny women demanding our attention all day every day. Oh wouldn't it be woeful to be a male sex addict then? :) No, of course not. The world would actually FULFILL rather than DENY our needs..
Hey, I'd settle for "nothing but average-looking, 45-year old, desperately horny women demanding my attention"! I am not greedy :)
Yikes, didn't mean to cause an argument, Verotica. I thought I'd apologized, but evidently I did a bad job of it. So, umm, again, sorry.I appreciate the sincerity of your apology and retract the tone, if not the message, of my previous post, Book Guy.
Frankly, the only thing I need, to "fix" my need for sexuality, is more sex.... It's just a straightforward formula. Level of desire? 99 out of 100. Level of access? 1 out of 100. Discrepancy? 98. A 98% discrepancy between what I want, and getting what I want, is by definition an unhappy life. There ya go, that's my "sexual addiction" in a nutshell.
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You can see now how you're really almost contradicting my intent? I know you didn't mean to, but it ends up being that way anyway. I understand the discrepancy; indeed, I pay my rent off of the discrepancy. Fair? No. But a fact of life in today's America.
And I can now see how my...well my existence increases your frustration, since we are alike in certain areas of constitution, but live very different lives as a result of societies hang-ups and mores. You'll forgive me for not apologizing for being on the positive side of fortune in this one area of my life.
Presuming, of course, you're for real at all. If you'd like proof that I'm genuine, both in flesh and attitude, PM for pics and more details.
V
The term addiction is also sometimes applied to compulsions that are not substance-related, such as sex and computer addiction. In these kinds of common usages, the term addiction is used to describe a recurring compulsion by an individual to engage in some specific activity, despite harmful consequences to the individual's health, mental state or social life.Orlando, the best definition of addiction I've heard to date is "a compulsive activity that interferes with one's daily functioning in a negative way."
Society determines whether or not the interference is "negative." Is a new groom "addicted" to his bride? Is a new mother "addicted" to her infant? Is a cancer patient "addicted" to the drama that treatment engenders? Society recognizes those circumstances as unusual and allows for sketchy behavior relating to these extraordinary events.
But an unsatisfied libido? Seems the very definition of the American male, at least according to the comedians and barflies of the world. Men are always "supposed" to be horny, women always required to resist. Unsatisfied females are supposed to be ugly or otherwise socially impaired. I'd just like to break down that myth a little.
I am neither ugly nor socially inept, but I remain largely unsatisfied. I service many men every week, most of whom claim to have very intense experiences here. I still twitch. I still want. I still yearn. I am a sex addict in the sense that I require sexual contact more often than society would deem appropriate.
[QUOTE=Orlando J]Such as Verotica though she has solutions for the problem one of them is do not charge for the hour. Let your customer know he can spend as much time I am sure you will find men like myself.
The best definition I've heard to date of a "nymphomaniac" is a woman who craves sex as much as the average male. I do not rush any of my clients, Orlando. I let them talk and f*** and stroke and feel as much as they need to. I do and will charge for my time - but I don't keep my eye on the clock.
Orlando, I used to give it away all the time, and the fact is that men who pay for sex actually tend to be more aware of the intricacies and nuances involved in the act (i.e. much more willing to explore and experiment to discover a mutual satisfaction). But you do hit on a good point - after all of the service-type sex all week, I do require the companionship of a knowing partner who does not pay me in cash, but only in the type of attention that I sell every day. I know that sounds contradictory, but through the years I've culled my lovers from the few-and-far-between, extraordinary clients who truly enjoy every aspect of sex - selfless giving and selfishly receiving.
But that's just me.
Verotica, there may be some women sex addicts or nymphos in this world. But the bottom line is that over 90% of the time men are paying women for the sexual relations they have together. Also it is not my intention to insult you but a friend of mine made the accurate observation that women control 70% of the money and own 100% of the p*ssy.You don't offend me in the least, Tomkat. I'd just like to know where I can sign up for the other 50% of the money!
I don't call it fair, but, yes men pay for sex. Women pay for attention. And the world goes on.
If I had a point when I started this discussion, it was that I do know what it's like to suffer from this addiction. Before I got in the trade, I spent many nights (and days!) just wanting. Wanting sex, wanting men, wanting relief that I can't provide myself. Ironically, it wasn't until I started charging that I got at least some relief.
One more thing, Tomkat. I have to argue with women having 100% control over sex, since I've met too many men who took control of my kitty in no time flat, once they realized I was addicted. It's not an even comparison regarding men and women, but the fact remains that there is always someone around to take advantage of another person's addiction.
Just to add a couple points to the recent discussion --
1. Personally I could not bear the idea to be a prostitute to satisfy my sexual desires, unless maybe I could be picky about who I service. The majority of would-be clients must be rather undesirable, I imagine. I suppose some prostitutes try to be picky initially, but eventually they lower their standards and over time it becomes more about the money and (so I've heard) they typically become jaded about sex. I've met very few providers who seemed like nymphos -- but they do exist. (Of course, some guys may be better at stimulating an excited response than me !)
2. I think one major difference between men and women is that when it comes to reproduction, they potentially expend far different amounts of energy. And although we are discussing recreational sex, it is, after all, the instinct for reproduction which drives our desires (even if we are not conscious of it). For women, reproduction requires an enormous investment in energy -- for gestation and child-rearing. They are therefore more circumspect in their decisions. For men, the possibility exists to expend only a trivial amount of energy -- a hit-and-run fuck. Of course, in society we try to require that men hang around and take care of the kids (e.g. get married), so then they expend a similar amount of energy. Having said that, no doubt there are promiscious women and the whole subject is more complicated than what can be said in a short post. I'm just pointing out that this asymmetry in energy expenditure tends to differentiate the behaviour of the sexes, and it is the instinct which female prostitutes exploit.
Chica Chaser
11-03-08, 16:23
I am also addicted to sex, paid or otherwise, and have no problem admitting it. I certainly don't want to be "cured" of this affliction. As most of us could say "I wish I still had all of the money I have spent in my life chasing pussy" Yes, I would be borderline rich, but a whole lot unhappier!
Not to thread-jack this, but I can assure you that Verotica is is the genuine article, in both flesh and attitude. If you find yourself in PHX do yourself a favor and look her up.
Side note: Verotica, glad you took my advice and joined up with our little community, Welcome! You have some pretty unique insights, as I am well aware of. Please join in any of the discussions. Most of us will welcome your thoughts and ideas. Look forward to our next visit!
CC
If you'd like proof that I'm genuine, both in flesh and attitude, PM for pics and more details.
V
Orlando, the best definition of addiction I've heard to date is "a compulsive activity that interferes with one's daily functioning in a negative way."
Society determines whether or not the interference is "negative." Is a new groom "addicted" to his bride? Is a new mother "addicted" to her infant? Is a cancer patient "addicted" to the drama that treatment engenders?
Very good point. Part of the reason Alcoholic Anonymous was a complete failure in Russia is because what in America is considered an alcoholic, in Russia is a normal, perfectly functional adult. What in Russia is called an alcoholic, in America is a lost cause.
If a man's mongering habits harm his life otherwise, then yes he is an addict. But exactly same habits can be harmful in a country where prostitution is illegal yet not in a country where it is legal. So "addiction" is societally defined.
I do not think I am a sex addict. I never allowed mongering to put strain on my finances, and I had gone for months at a time without seeing a provider yet did not get obsessed about it. Maybe I am a "sex conosseuir" -- I like to try different women; sometimes for no more than a private strip show, sometimes for quality massages, etc. When I first heard of mongers call themselves "hobbyists" I thought it was a hilarious euphemism, but now I realize I approach the whole business exactly as if it were a (somewhat dangerous) hobby. For that matter, I have other fairly expensive, somewhat dangerous, physically demanding hobbies, and when I am busy with those, mongering is put on hold.
Note to all wives who happen to read this: if your husband hunts, spearfishes, or skydives, encourage him! The more time, money, and energy he spends doing these things, the less he has to chase pussy. OTOH, a true sex addict would load up his hunting gear, and later would come up with some excuse why he "had such a lousy day". :)
Verotica, the difference between men's sex addiction and women's is huge. If you like what you do you might end up being as pretty woman or Sarah Palin :)
Verotica, you missed my point in this post, of yours, however your recent response ,to Book Guy, if you re-read it. You would understand.
Women have more access to sex. They can not complain of being sex addicts.
By posting definitions of sex addiction, I wanted to clarify two things.
The frequency of needing sex (I'd call quantity) and the duration of sex (I'd call quality).
As I understand from your posting you are not satisfied and I'd say your problem is in the quality of sex. Well you have the solution for the problem. I do not want to reiterate. You also know the answer just simply do not charge for time with the guys that you feel are willing to satisfy you.
Finally you say
I do require the companionship of a knowing partner who does not pay me in cash, but only in the type of attention that I sell every day. I know that sounds contradictory, but through the years I've culled my lovers from the few-and-far-between, extraordinary clients who truly enjoy every aspect of sex - selfless giving and selfishly receiving.
you are just like the majority of women who do not know what they want and need. That's our problem men who unfortunately love women. You want to have the cake and eat. You want money, attention, love, sex and everything on your terms/condition and whenever you want to apply those conditions. You want a guy who would pay to please you.
I have to tell you I picked a young lady few weeks ago. I saw her a couple of times after that. On the first time, she told me it's impossible to get her to orgasm on the first time though I felt she wanted pleasure. The second time I can feel she is trying hard not to cum. The third time, she was almost about to orgasm when she jumped out saying "what do you want? There are only two men who cared to satisfy me." Everytime I met her she complained about her problems. Obviously as she admitted she was in love with someone and still gieving the relation.
women are looking for attention
Orlando, the best definition of addiction I've heard to date is "a compulsive activity that interferes with one's daily functioning in a negative way."
Society determines whether or not the interference is "negative." Is a new groom "addicted" to his bride? Is a new mother "addicted" to her infant? Is a cancer patient "addicted" to the drama that treatment engenders? Society recognizes those circumstances as unusual and allows for sketchy behavior relating to these extraordinary events.
But an unsatisfied libido? Seems the very definition of the American male, at least according to the comedians and barflies of the world. Men are always "supposed" to be horny, women always required to resist. Unsatisfied females are supposed to be ugly or otherwise socially impaired. I'd just like to break down that myth a little.
I am neither ugly nor socially inept, but I remain largely unsatisfied. I service many men every week, most of whom claim to have very intense experiences here. I still twitch. I still want. I still yearn. I am a sex addict in the sense that I require sexual contact more often than society would deem appropriate.
Such as Verotica though she has solutions for the problem one of them is do not charge for the hour. Let your customer know he can spend as much time I am sure you will find men like myself.
The best definition I've heard to date of a "nymphomaniac" is a woman who craves sex as much as the average male. I do not rush any of my clients, Orlando. I let them talk and f*** and stroke and feel as much as they need to. I do and will charge for my time - but I don't keep my eye on the clock.
Orlando, I used to give it away all the time, and the fact is that men who pay for sex actually tend to be more aware of the intricacies and nuances involved in the act (i.e. much more willing to explore and experiment to discover a mutual satisfaction). But you do hit on a good point - after all of the service-type sex all week, I do require the companionship of a knowing partner who does not pay me in cash, but only in the type of attention that I sell every day. I know that sounds contradictory, but through the years I've culled my lovers from the few-and-far-between, extraordinary clients who truly enjoy every aspect of sex - selfless giving and selfishly receiving.
But that's just me.
SmackThatAss
11-10-08, 07:34
What city do you live in so we can all go out and get drunk and have some fun!!
Let the good times roll!
What city do you live in so we can all go out and get drunk and have some fun!!
Let the good times roll!If you're ever in Phoenix, give me a call! PM me for my number (or just look in my post here in Provider Classifieds).
V
Horndog132
12-09-08, 08:44
Comments Gents!
BBC NEWS
Inside a US sex addiction clinic
By Sima Kotecha
Newsbeat US reporter in Santa Fe
Like alcohol, drugs, and gambling, sex can become addictive too.
Celebrities Russell Brand and David Duchovny threw a spotlight on sex addiction by checking into rehabilitation centres in the States to get treatment for it.
Last year, Newsbeat discovered that sex addiction was a growing problem among men in the UK.
80% of the sex therapists we contacted said an increasing number of males were asking for help with sex addiction.
Today there are more than eight clinics in America offering specialist treatment to those who suffer from the disorder.
Newsbeat was given exclusive access to one of them.
The Life Healing Centre (LHC) is in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and it offers two sex addiction programmes: one for men and the other for women.
The centre is based at the top of a mountain range.
It's 7,500ft (2,286m) above sea level. The high altitude can make people feel light headed for a while.
From the balcony on campus, you can see nothing but mountains and desert.
Lose control
Rob Weiss is an addiction specialist. He created the sex addiction programme at LHC.
He said: "Sex addicts are people who lose control over healthy sexual choices.
"They say things to themselves like, 'I'm not going to go to that place for sex' or 'I'm not going to see that person for sex' but they continue to do it anyway.
"They show behaviours that are common to all addicts and they show consequences and thinking that is common to all addicts."
According to Mr. Weiss, 80% of sex addicts in the US are men.
It is impossible to say how many sex addicts there are though, as many don't admit to having the problem.
Psychologist and author Doctor Patrick Carnes, who has done substantial research in the area, estimates three to 5% of Americans suffer from the disorder.
Their behaviour can vary from compulsively watching porn online to visiting prostitutes at every opportunity.
Andy is 31 and is enrolled in the programme. He claims to have been a sex addict for years.
He said: "I was compulsive self-pleasuring, using pornography, going to prostitutes and having people sexually abuse and torture me for my pleasure."
His addiction got so out of control that he was unable to walk for a month after a dominatrix severely sexually abused him at his request.
"I was the masochist. Once I was so physically harmed because I'd taken it to an extreme level," he added.
Talking
So what goes on at this clinic which claims to cure sex addicts like Andy?
At LHC they focus on communication. Through hours of self-evaluation, the therapists and councillors attempt to get to the bottom of the cause of the addiction.
They believe in trauma exploration because many of the addicts have difficult pasts ranging from child abuse to problematic up-bringings.
The group sessions focus on reducing the shame in patients which goes along with the disorder.
The male addicts at LHC explained their addiction as being a force that was too great to control.
But Phillip Hodson, fellow of the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy, disagrees and says sex is about choices.
He said: "We think that sex addiction is not a proper definition.
"I mean it's up to you whether you go out and have sex with somebody.
"You have a choice or you stay in and watch EastEnders."
He thinks the condition would be better described as compulsive, obsessive or greedy.
Rob Weiss understands the scrutiny that comes with the term "sex addiction" but argues that it is a genuine problem and not just a glamorous term for someone who has a high sex drive.
He said: "I never think of sex addiction as being glamorous.
"The people I work with are often engaging in acts that they themselves aren't comfortable with.
"They hate themselves often for the types of places they go to and the behaviours they engage in.
"No sex addict would describe their behaviour as glamorous."
A 35-day programme at the centre doesn't come cheap.
It costs around £20,000. Doug is a sex addict and has been in rehab for several weeks.
He said: "As far as the number of women I've been with, it runs in the hundreds. I don't count.
"But now I hope to live a normal life, and have a normally functioning sex life."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/newsbeat/hi/health/newsid_7771000/7771758.stm
Published: 2008/12/09 07:17:12 GMT
© BBC MMVIII
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BBC NEWS
Inside a US sex addiction clinic
By Sima Kotecha
Newsbeat US reporter in Santa Fe
Like alcohol, drugs, and gambling, sex can become addictive too.
Celebrities Russell Brand and David Duchovny threw a spotlight on sex addiction by checking into rehabilitation centres in the States to get treatment for it.
Last year, Newsbeat discovered that sex addiction was a growing problem among men in the UK.
80% of the sex therapists we contacted said an increasing number of males were asking for help with sex addiction.
Today there are more than eight clinics in America offering specialist treatment to those who suffer from the disorder.
Newsbeat was given exclusive access to one of them.
The Life Healing Centre (LHC) is in Santa Fe, New Mexico, and it offers two sex addiction programmes: one for men and the other for women.
The centre is based at the top of a mountain range.
It's 7,500ft (2,286m) above sea level. The high altitude can make people feel light headed for a while.
From the balcony on campus, you can see nothing but mountains and desert.
Lose control
Rob Weiss is an addiction specialist. He created the sex addiction programme at LHC.
He said: "Sex addicts are people who lose control over healthy sexual choices.
"They say things to themselves like, 'I'm not going to go to that place for sex' or 'I'm not going to see that person for sex' but they continue to do it anyway.
"They show behaviours that are common to all addicts and they show consequences and thinking that is common to all addicts."
According to Mr. Weiss, 80% of sex addicts in the US are men.
It is impossible to say how many sex addicts there are though, as many don't admit to having the problem.
Psychologist and author Doctor Patrick Carnes, who has done substantial research in the area, estimates three to 5% of Americans suffer from the disorder.
Their behaviour can vary from compulsively watching porn online to visiting prostitutes at every opportunity.
Andy is 31 and is enrolled in the programme. He claims to have been a sex addict for years.
He said: "I was compulsive self-pleasuring, using pornography, going to prostitutes and having people sexually abuse and torture me for my pleasure."
His addiction got so out of control that he was unable to walk for a month after a dominatrix severely sexually abused him at his request.
"I was the masochist. Once I was so physically harmed because I'd taken it to an extreme level," he added.
Talking
So what goes on at this clinic which claims to cure sex addicts like Andy?
At LHC they focus on communication. Through hours of self-evaluation, the therapists and councillors attempt to get to the bottom of the cause of the addiction.
They believe in trauma exploration because many of the addicts have difficult pasts ranging from child abuse to problematic up-bringings.
The group sessions focus on reducing the shame in patients which goes along with the disorder.
The male addicts at LHC explained their addiction as being a force that was too great to control.
But Phillip Hodson, fellow of the British Association for Counselling and Psychotherapy, disagrees and says sex is about choices.
He said: "We think that sex addiction is not a proper definition.
"I mean it's up to you whether you go out and have sex with somebody.
"You have a choice or you stay in and watch EastEnders."
He thinks the condition would be better described as compulsive, obsessive or greedy.
Rob Weiss understands the scrutiny that comes with the term "sex addiction" but argues that it is a genuine problem and not just a glamorous term for someone who has a high sex drive.
He said: "I never think of sex addiction as being glamorous.
"The people I work with are often engaging in acts that they themselves aren't comfortable with.
"They hate themselves often for the types of places they go to and the behaviours they engage in.
"No sex addict would describe their behaviour as glamorous."
A 35-day programme at the centre doesn't come cheap.
It costs around £20,000. Doug is a sex addict and has been in rehab for several weeks.
He said: "As far as the number of women I've been with, it runs in the hundreds. I don't count.
"But now I hope to live a normal life, and have a normally functioning sex life."
Story from BBC NEWS:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/newsbeat/hi/health/newsid_7771000/7771758.stm
Published: 2008/12/09 07:17:12 GMT
© BBC MMVIII
Horndog132, it's an interesting article which explains the problem and some of the approaches to solutions. I like the idea of trauma exploration, as I bet that has a lot to do with many cases.
However, one problem with the article (and this is not your fault) is that it does not mention if the therapies actually work ! What is their success rate and how do they define success ? That part is totally unclear. The article needs a follow-up.
TwistedBrother
12-30-08, 12:05
I have not gone through this thread deeply yet, but I have to sneak in a few cents until I have more time.
While the differences between men and women in our society definitely lead of great differences in how either gender will experience sexual addiction, I can assure you that the core of the addiction issue is just as acute ... and can be just as live-altering (or destructive). I have known women who have experienced it differently, and certainly differently then men, but it still controlled their lives, some very negatively.
The movie Black Snake Moan kind of deals (somewhat successfully) with a young woman's sexual compulsion resulting from abuse.
Tomkat4848
12-30-08, 13:38
You don't offend me in the least, Tomkat. I'd just like to know where I can sign up for the other 50% of the money!
I don't call it fair, but, yes men pay for sex. Women pay for attention. And the world goes on.
If I had a point when I started this discussion, it was that I do know what it's like to suffer from this addiction. Before I got in the trade, I spent many nights (and days!) just wanting. Wanting sex, wanting men, wanting relief that I can't provide myself. Ironically, it wasn't until I started charging that I got at least some relief.
One more thing, Tomkat. I have to argue with women having 100% control over sex, since I've met too many men who took control of my kitty in no time flat, once they realized I was addicted. It's not an even comparison regarding men and women, but the fact remains that there is always someone around to take advantage of another person's addiction.
Verotica what you say is true and I'm glad you are not offended. If I knew where to find the other 50% of the money I would sign us both up. In the meantime, I wouldn't mind sharing my addiction with your addiction and I don't think I would try to take advantage of it. I bet my addiction which is a natural physical and mental hard drive is a lot stronger than yours. It would be fun to find out. What do you think?
Smiling Fox
04-13-09, 14:19
It a feminized society's attempt to castrate male's.
And here is my screen name.
Smiling Fox
Chica Chaser
04-30-09, 01:04
Orlando, the best definition of addiction I've heard to date is "a compulsive activity that interferes with one's daily functioning in a negative way."
I have just discovered there is a 12 step program for our affliction out there:
http://www.sexaa.org/
Part of their definintion of sexual addiction is
"The essence of all addiction is the addicts' experience of powerlessness over a compulsive behavior, resulting in their lives becoming unmanageable. The addict is out of control and experiences tremendous shame, pain and self-loathing. The addict may wish to stop --- yet repeatedly fails to do so. The unmanageability of addicts' lives can be seen in the consequences they suffer: losing relationships, difficulties with work, arrests, financial troubles, a loss of interest in things not sexual, low self-esteem and despair." Sounds pretty close to Verotica's description to me.
After taking a look at a few pages, they provide a pretty comprehensive checklist to determine if you are a sex addict:
Answer these twelve questions to assess whether you may have a problem with sexual addiction.
1. Do you keep secrets about your sexual or romantic activities from those important to you? Do you lead a double life?
2. Have your needs driven you to have sex in places or situations or with people you would not normally choose?
3. Do you find yourself looking for sexually arousing articles or scenes in newspapers, magazines, or other media?
4. Do you find that romantic or sexual fantasies interfere with your relationships or are preventing you from facing problems?
5. Do you frequently want to get away from a sex partner after having sex? Do you frequently feel remorse, shame, or guilt after a sexual encounter?
6. Do you feel shame about your body or your sexuality, such that you avoid touching your body or engaging in sexual relationships? Do you fear that you have no sexual feelings, that you are asexual?
7. Does each new relationship continue to have the same destructive patterns which prompted you to leave the last relationship?
8. Is it taking more variety and frequency of sexual and romantic activities than previously to bring the same levels of excitement and relief?
9. Have you ever been arrested or are you in danger of being arrested because of your practices of voyeurism, exhibitionism, prostitution, sex with minors, indecent phone calls, etc.?
10. Does your pursuit of sex or romantic relationships interfere with your spiritual beliefs or development?
11. Do your sexual activities include the risk, threat, or reality of disease, pregnancy, coercion, or violence?
12. Has your sexual or romantic behavior ever left you feeling hopeless, alienated from others, or suicidal?
If you answered yes to more than one of these questions, we would encourage you to seek out additional literature as a resource or to attend a Sex Addicts Anonymous meeting to further assess your needs.
http://www.sexaa.org/12ques.htm
After looking at this list, there's not much doubt in my mind of MY addiction. I'm guessing that many of us on this board suffer this affliction. Seems there are meetings happening close by....wonder if this may be a good place to meet/pick-up ladies? ;)
Hell On Wls
04-30-09, 23:43
How about rewriting the code.
1. Did your sig. other ever ask you about porn, and you lie about it?
2. Did your sig. other ask about sharing porn? And you lied about your involvement in porn?
3. Did your sig. other ask about erotic stories and sharing them (and you lied)?
4. Did you say you were not involved in porn?
5. Have you ever done something that might transmit a STD?
6. Did you lie to the Sig. about the transmittle of an STD.
7. Have you ever had an STD?
8. Why do you have a sig. other if you indulge in these activities?
9. Should she know?
10. What are the results?
11. Do overs would you change anything? HH and hate to be an ass hoe but gives you something to think about.
Baldy Cruiser
06-05-09, 22:03
Did Sex Addiction kill him.....
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090606/ap_on_en_mo/as_carradine_death
Damn!!!!
BALDY CRUISER
Member #4186
06-05-09, 23:21
To Chica Chaser: dude, I'm sure you realize, that the twelve-step program which you found, has extremely heavy doses of both JUDGING and MORALIZING from a set of religious assumptions. (Of course, it will always be near-impossible for any program of social and psychological recovery, NOT to include some base assumptions of one sort or another, whether they be homiletic Christian fundamentalism, or flakey fake New Age pseudo-spiritualism, so it's not like we should be surprised that there's a foundational point of view to those 12 steps!) For example, I'm uncomfortable with any program that asks, " 11. Do your sexual activities include the risk, threat, or reality of disease, pregnancy, coercion, or violence?" without also remembering, that many "average" or "normal" sex acts nevertheless have at least a small chance of causing both disease and pregnancy.
To Hell on Wls: I don't quite understand your tone. You rightly "turn the tables" on Chica Chaser's initial 12-step post (just below yours) but I can't quite tell whether you're turning those tables in earnest or in irony. See, I find BOTH posts a bit ironic and off-putting.
And by the way, to all -- I don't want to dismiss claims of sexual addiction, or claims of the potential for recovery that a morally-based program (perhaps even a religious one!) might bring. To each his own.
I know that my own "addiction" (if it ever really was that) has actually been more, a type of psychological "fervor" for many cravings and failures at impulse-control. As I've begun to understand that my condition isn't "normal" -- that I'm genuinely NOT a fully functional, adjusted, North American citizen -- I've also come to understand, that my sex acts aren't really the root of the problem. They're a symptom of a larger picture. I'm part ADHD or ADD; I'm part depressed; I'm partly just a typically ego-centric guy who had good genetic luck to get decently good looks, fairly wealthy parents who ensured a high-caliber elite education, extremely high IQ, all "naturally." I don't claim ANY CREDIT for any of these status symbols -- I did literally NOTHING to achieve them. Nevertheless, they do reasonably give me a perfectly normal sense, that I want as a partner only a woman who is as appealing to me, as I would believe I could be to her. I'm not a troll (thank you, GOOD LUCK and nothing else) and I don't mistreat her (thank you, GOOD LUCK and nothing else) and I'm well educated, with a high income potential, a stable family life, good grooming habits, and a sense of humor (thank you GOOD LUCK! and hard work to KEEP the benefits that the luck gave me). So, it's actually perfectly REASONABLE of me, to seek high-quality sex partners. The fact that I'm perpetually disappointed in my sexual access (see Chica Chaser's twelve questions, especially number 8!) is simply ... COMMON SENSE. Fat ugly North American bitches are, quite frankly, BAD CATCHES.
So, is that dysfunction? Or good reasoning?
A little bit of both ...
Chica Chaser
06-06-09, 14:15
Book Guy; Dude, (dude??...what educated professional uses that term?) obviously, I didn't make the "tongue-in-cheek" tone of my 12-step post clear to either you or Hell On Wls. I suppose I figured you would would pick up on that with my last sentence of the post.
I am, of course, familiar with the 12-step programs for alcoholics, drug abusers, gamblers, etc. Yes, they certainly have a basis in religious beliefs. I think that these types of programs can be very beneficial to those individuals that "want" to get off or overcome of whatever addiction they have. These groups can provide a solid support foundation for them.
As I said in some earlier posts on this thread, I am a sex addict, I have no problem admitting and accepting that, in fact, I am quite comfortable with it. I have no "want" to change that. I was merely bringing to the board's attention that there is a 12-step program out there for sexual addiction as it was the first time I had heard of it. Not that I am a member or supporter or believer, only that it exists.
So sorry to have "off-put" you with my posting (most of which is a copy/paste from the organizations website, see the bolded print) Now, since you brought it up, I find your comments about your upbringing, your high-caliber, elite education, your extremely high IQ, your decent good-looks, good grooming habits, et al plus your general pontificating, to be quite "off-putting" to me. It seems that I was raised in much the same manner and share many of your personal habits and beliefs. However, I think that if you have to tell someone all of these things about yourself, either in person or on an anonymous internet posting board, then you just come across as a pompous and self-boasting ass. Looking at your past posting history and writings just confirms that fact, to me at least. Again we are all entitled to our own opinions, I just don't always see a need or an advantage to express them all the time; nor would I, had you not made your comments below.
To Hell On Wls; I have to agree with Mr. Book Guy, when I originally read your post I did not know if you were writing earnestly or in jest. Quite frankly, I couldn't care less, either way. My addiction is my issue, it does not affect anyone else. I do have a SO, with the same affliction and we have certain rules for extra-curricular activities in place, for each of us, that we are both comfortable with. Communication and honesty are big keys to relationship happiness.
Hell On Wls
06-06-09, 15:02
Book Guy; Dude, (dude??...what educated professional uses that term?) obviously, I didn't make the "tongue-in-cheek" tone of my 12-step post clear to either you or Hell On Wls. I suppose I figured you would would pick up on that with my last sentence of the post.
I am, of course, familiar with the 12-step programs for alcoholics, drug abusers, gamblers, etc. Yes, they certainly have a basis in religious beliefs. I think that these types of programs can be very beneficial to those individuals that "want" to get off or overcome of whatever addiction they have. These groups can provide a solid support foundation for them.
As I said in some earlier posts on this thread, I am a sex addict, I have no problem admitting and accepting that, in fact, I am quite comfortable with it. I have no "want" to change that. I was merely bringing to the board's attention that there is a 12-step program out there for sexual addiction as it was the first time I had heard of it. Not that I am a member or supporter or believer, only that it exists.
So sorry to have "off-put" you with my posting (most of which is a copy/paste from the organizations website, see the bolded print) Now, since you brought it up, I find your comments about your upbringing, your high-caliber, elite education, your extremely high IQ, your decent good-looks, good grooming habits, et al plus your general pontificating, to be quite "off-putting" to me. It seems that I was raised in much the same manner and share many of your personal habits and beliefs. However, I think that if you have to tell someone all of these things about yourself, either in person or on an anonymous internet posting board, then you just come across as a pompous and self-boasting ass. Looking at your past posting history and writings just confirms that fact, to me at least. Again we are all entitled to our own opinions, I just don't always see a need or an advantage to express them all the time; nor would I, had you not made your comments below.
To Hell On Wls; I have to agree with Mr. Book Guy, when I originally read your post I did not know if you were writing earnestly or in jest. Quite frankly, I couldn't care less, either way. My addiction is my issue, it does not affect anyone else. I do have a SO, with the same affliction and we have certain rules for extra-curricular activities in place, for each of us, that we are both comfortable with. Communication and honesty are big keys to relationship happiness.You hit the nail on the head! Your SO knows and guide lines have been set! That was my point. Have fun and be safe. How
Member #4186
06-12-09, 23:19
Chica Chaser --
We misunderstood one another. Then, one of us abandoned the discussion of the topic at hand and, instead, attacked the other through character-assassination (derived strictly from subjective implications of what his statement MIGHT imply, not what it ACTUALLY SAID).
It a feminized society's attempt to castrate male's.
And here is my screen name.
Smiling Fox
Pitty the poor pussys that fall for this stuff...
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Liquid Oxygen
01-27-10, 01:26
Does any one have advice for sexual addiction, can it be curred?
If you are serious, there are different avenues you can take. Join a support group, go for counseling, etc.
Another option would be to seek out a reputable hypnotist in your area.
Read the Sex Addiction Workbook for a start. Make sure to do all the exercises.
Does any one have advice for sexual addiction, can it be curred?
Humpty Dumpty
02-21-10, 12:03
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I have no death wish...and for the most part, fly safe.
Lapses from time to time....arg
Anduril770
04-02-10, 22:50
Does any one have advice for sexual addiction, can it be curred?
Addictions are a disease.
Many diseases are not really "cured" but managed.
Diabetes would be cured if you could get the pancreas to make more insulin. High blood pressure, there is no cure. We don't know what causes it. It is a disease that is managed.
Addictions? No cure, you manage the problem.
TwistedBrother
07-03-10, 20:55
I'm kinda interested in getting this thread going, particularly with guys who might be interested in reining in their addictive behaviors, if they so identify themselves, as I am.
Maybe send me a PM if you are, as I'll try to remember to check this thread, but may forget.
I've mongered off and on, mostly on, for almost 20 years. Was divorced when I started ("pre" mongering behavior contributed), tried a 2nd marriage from about 97-02, and now am contemplating at least a LTR if not marriage ... but really struggling w/mongering. I love to monger, love the community ... but I think I'd love not to more and have a good LTR.
A deep, multifaceted issue and I know here may not necessarily be the best place, but I've been part of this community for 8 years and giving it up would be almost as hard. Participating this way might be a workable compromise.
Thanks
I'm kinda interested in getting this thread going, particularly with guys who might be interested in reining in their addictive behaviors, if they so identify themselves, as I am.
Maybe send me a PM if you are, as I'll try to remember to check this thread, but may forget.
I've mongered off and on, mostly on, for almost 20 years. Was divorced when I started ("pre" mongering behavior contributed), tried a 2nd marriage from about 97-02, and now am contemplating at least a LTR if not marriage ... but really struggling w/mongering. I love to monger, love the community ... but I think I'd love not to more and have a good LTR.
A deep, multifaceted issue and I know here may not necessarily be the best place, but I've been part of this community for 8 years and giving it up would be almost as hard. Participating this way might be a workable compromise.
Thanks
Right there with you! I struggle with the idea of whether I'm a true addict or if I can really manage my mongering if more effort was put into it. Either way, it's something I revisit more often than not, so by all means, let's talk about this.
I am not sure if this report should be here. Moaning, screaming, sighing, squealing, joyful pain, shivering ...obvious orgasm signs are really one of these things that trigger my sexual addiction. I can not get enough of it. Normally I would not see a girl who does not enjoy or enjoys without obvious signs. I love women sounds during sex and I love it when it is real or fake but you can never tell! It even keeps my hard on.
Once I find a loud girl I keep on seeing her for a while. I have seen the most beautiful girls however if she does not have it. I might see her just few times to give her another chance.
Who do you think is the best porn star in that regard?
I like Cytheria not only she squirts but her orgasms are very strong. She shivers and can not take it.
Check this orgasm at ~11: , 13:40 15:30 , 16:40 18:14
http://www.keezmovies.com/video/she-explodes-like-geyser-438008
I like Kayden Kross soft, feminine once she's penetrated sound
(check this sound of penetration at ~ 4:03 and other sounds)
http://www.keezmovies.com/video/kayden-kross-taken-by-the-big-boss-476060
I like Stoya and Melissa Lauren see how she can not take it at 8:10
http://www.keezmovies.com/video/melissa-lauren-rooftop-ass-ramming-434841
I also like Lacie Hearts though you know she is faking it however she does a good job.
Member #2401
07-22-10, 16:47
Right there with you! I struggle with the idea of whether I'm a true addict or if I can really manage my mongering if more effort was put into it. Either way, it's something I revisit more often than not, so by all means, let's talk about this.I'm in the same boat. I've been on this forum a while (I know very few posts) and primarily take a long time to find some one safe and stick with them. I seem to have zero self control and pursue a provider whenever I feel the need.
I used to live in Orlando (really enjoyed my time there), but am back home B Malibu's general location.
Guess I don't like to admit that me and LTRs are an oxymoron.
Which porn-star has the best orgasm response? This response might be moaning, shivering, sighing,...
If you can give examples it would be great.
P.S.
I know I am making things worse for me as a sexual addict however I just can't help it!
Benchseats Rock
07-29-10, 15:13
Which porn-star has the best orgasm response? This response might be moaning, shivering, sighing,...
If you can give examples it would be great.
P.S.
I know I am making things worse for me as a sexual addict however I just can't help it!
Cythreria.
She shakes, violently shudders, screams, squirts like a fire hose and in several scenes passes out.
Bench
I like Cytherea too. Noone compares to her as far as I know (may be there are some talents out there we do not know about...what do you think guys?)
Check this orgasm at ~11: , 13:40 15:30 , 16:40 18:14
http://www.keezmovies.com/video/she-explodes-like-geyser-438008
However, I like Kayden Kross soft, feminine once she's penetrated sound besides she is very beautiful
(check this sound of penetration at ~ 4:03 and other sounds)
http://www.keezmovies.com/video/kayden-kross-taken-by-the-big-boss-476060
I like Stoya and Melissa Lauren see how she can not take it at 8:10
http://www.keezmovies.com/video/melissa-lauren-rooftop-ass-ramming-434841
I also like Lacie Hearts though you know she is faking it however she does a good job.
Cythreria.
She shakes, violently shudders, screams, squirts like a fire hose and in several scenes passes out.
Bench
Cytherea FTW! This one is also pretty good
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tube8.com%2Fhardcore%2Fmegan-madsen-hardcore-sex%2F116929%2F&ei=DnFkTOC8HIbVngeeiqyVDQ&usg=AFQjCNGdxacmRYdUhNDO47HEi8ACpgmzmg
Megan Madsen :) Video used to be up on pornhub but is gone..
it's epic
Cytherea FTW! This one is also pretty good
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tube8.com%2Fhardcore%2Fmegan-madsen-hardcore-sex%2F116929%2F&ei=DnFkTOC8HIbVngeeiqyVDQ&usg=AFQjCNGdxacmRYdUhNDO47HEi8ACpgmzmg
Megan Madsen :) Video used to be up on pornhub but is gone..
it's epic
Good choice. Found her:
http://www.pornomovies.com/fuck/Pornstar/10328
However, I can not find a girl feminine soft voice as Kayden Kross
If I am addicted then my addiction is cruising. When I first started cruising you could almost always find a hot satisfying SW on ECB. But in the past year or so I have cut back on cruising due to lack of street action in SD. Now I am lucky to find a good new SW once every 6 months. But if the action were to pick up I would most certainly do more cruising. There is certain thrill about cruising in the hopes finding a new really hot SW out.
I'm in the same boat. I've been on this forum a while (I know very few posts) and primarily take a long time to find some one safe and stick with them. I seem to have zero self control and pursue a provider whenever I feel the need.
I used to live in Orlando (really enjoyed my time there, but am back home B Malibu's general location.
Guess I don't like to admit that me and LTRs are an oxymoron. Hey BMalibu, Member #2401, and TwistedBrother.
I'm interested in keeping this thread going and discussing this if you still are. I'm from the OC board as well so some of us are neighbors.
I'm not sure if that I'm addicted, or have a strong compulsion or just a hobby. I think my place to start is why I got started mongering in the first place.
The Aerosmith lyric "I was a high school loser never made it with a lady" describes me to a T. College was only slightly better, now I'm a 45 year old nerd working in the tech industry, looking like you'd expect with decent social skills but I never had and never will "have game" with the ladies. I can count on less than one hand the number of women I've had sex with that I didn't pay for.
My first monger experience was the Mustang Ranch in 1991, then various MP's across the country and mostly OC in the good old days of Hou's, Le Sun, Tiffany Tanning, Golden, etc. I didn't have a girlfriend at the time, back then I mongered mostly for the release, release by someone else instead of rosie and her five sisters, a little companionship, and the thrill of the game-a big factor. I'm wondering if that thrill is similar to someone that does have game feels when he hooks up with a civilian in a club? This was all AMPs, with a few drives on Harbor, then the one and only time I tried to pick up an SW, we got surrounded by cops in the alley (while doing the cop check) no arrests, but that scared me straight from the street scene forever.
After every AMP visit (ranging from HE all the way to greek) I would feel slightly unfulfilled, guilty that I did something "bad", a bit guilty at the money I spent, and scared nearly shitless that I caught some STD. I was always supersafe, no DFK, no BB anything, and I even hate the condom in the mouth, put it on with the mouth trick becuase of the saliva getting on my penis. I know the guilt is talked about a bit in this thread, however I can't help how I felt / feel. So I would stew for a couple weeks after the visit, beating myself up, etc. Then I'd start reading the board, and after another week or so, I'd be back at an AMP to keep the cycle going. I used to think "if I had a GF, I wouldn't need to do this".
Jumping ahead to 7 years ago, I decided to knock it off and go for an LTR, I had 2 clean STD tests in a year, got a GF and am still with her. GF is 90% the girl of my dreams, and as good as I can expect for me. K girl 10 years younger than me, the nicest person on the planet, makes all of my meals, cleans, etc, etc. The 10% is: that she doesn't have a great job, has huge credit card debt, the elevator stops a little before reaching the top, and she's just not that good in the sack. So all in all I should be at home every night thanking my lucky stars that she's with me and thanking her profusely for putting up with me.
A couple months ago I got back on the board and did a lot of reading, then thought I'd try a massage and "just see what happens", but HE only. I had a few HE, then a particular unfulfilling session at home with GF that left me sayin "fuck it, I'm going to get some from someone who knows what the fuck they're doing", then went and had FS at an AMP. It was good! I have to say, the act was good, but I think it's more the thrill of the chase of doing it all.
I didn't feel that bad at first and spent several days afterwards reading more forum. Then the guilt and the fear of STD kicked in with everything else mentioned and additional fear of guilt for "cheating" on GF, but more guilt and fear of giving her an STD and how that would go down just absolutely devastating her. But even with that guilt, I'm on the board every day, thinking I'll go out again soon, wanting to go to Tijuana and sample that, wanting to get to be a senior member to get the referral to JWA.2 weeks later my dick is still sore from the toothy BJ from that FS (and a couple lousy HJ by GF, I've been sick (yeah, just a cold, but my STD paranoia) and still trying to pick out my next place. I'm almost afraid to go BB with her for fear of giving her something.
I guess that means I'm more of a hobby and into at least compulsion, and not addiction. I'm wondering if I should stop, go to Tijuana and let it rip, or what. I think if I wasn't so paranoid about the STD shit, I would probably feel less guilty. I know there are risks in the hobby, but it was easier to deal with them when it was just me.
So you had mentioned about reigning it in a bit, have you had any luck? Is any of this resonating with you?
Can't Stop (handle picked years ago)
So I'm an addict, it is what it is, my wife has passed, kids are getting older and are starting to take care of themselves, I need a hobby. Have tried the dating thing a number of times, the last one being right before Christmas, a blind date set up by friends. It's always one or two dates in and the girl always starts asking how much I make and can I help her out with the rent or car payment. This last one did, it never fails but then that's the Fayetteville, NC area, because of Fort Bragg there are 30 guys to every woman, they are 90% gold diggers here. We have a sying,"Fayetteville, where even fat women can be choosy" because of all the guys here. I find it easier to have nasty skanky sex with our street girls than deal with the selfesh, shallow, self centered bitches in this town. It's alot better on my bank account, at least I know up front what to expect from the SW than I do from the lying FayettHell ghetto trash posing as nice church girls. Don't get me started.
Cytherea FTW! This one is also pretty good.
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=2&ved=0CBoQFjAB&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.tube8.com%2Fhardcore%2Fmegan-madsen-hardcore-sex%2F116929%2F&ei=DnFkTOC8HIbVngeeiqyVDQ&usg=AFQjCNGdxacmRYdUhNDO47HEi8ACpgmzmg
Megan Madsen. Video used to be up on pornhub but is gone.
It's epicI actually downloaded the Megan Madsen one that was supposed to be her first. Where she twirls in the pretty sundress. I know it was staged. But damn did it feel realistic.
Okay Playa
01-12-11, 03:34
Great documentary that explores addictive qualities with some comedy. Helped me understand why I love to hobby.
Hi Guys,
I was caught having an affair about 15 years ago, and the wife insisted I / we go to marriage counselors. To this day, I freeking hate people like that. The girls I was screwing was actually blackmailing me for money, and when the money ran out, it all became public. Lost my job because of it.
Well back to the story, the shrink we went to see insisted on seeing each of us seperately several times. It was during one of these private sessions the shrink actually diagnosed me with sex addiction. I laughed, and pretty much denied having any such disease, but instead believed I was simply a typical red-blooded guy. For privacy laws, the shrink was required to keep the diagnosis private, so the wife never heard about it. I was required to go to group counselling sessions and the whole bit.
Today, I realize it was an accurate diagnosis. I am addicted to sex. I monger somewhat and truly enjoy our mutual hobby. Sex with the wife (yeah, we are still together) is actually better now, although still too infrequent. Bottom line is. Yeah I'm addicted to sex, but so what. The alternative is not getting sex from women who are complete strangers who look incredible and do a fantastic job. I choose to simply manage the hobby and do a much better job of being discreet. Extremely discreet.
Be careful out there, and be safe.
I actually downloaded the Megan Madsen one that was supposed to be her first. Where she twirls in the pretty sundress. I know it was staged. But damn did it feel realistic.This one?
http://popfap.com/videos/watch/302152_Megan_Madsen_first_time_ever_on_camera
I've come to the conclusion I'm a lukewarm sex addict. I say lukewarm because a) I don't put that much energy into getting girls and be) I'm not so starved for sex that I'll bang a fat chick. That being said. I've been using CompuServe, AOL, Yahoo, Eworld (apple's old service) , . You name it. To find and meet girls who want to have sex.
I've driven as far as 500 miles for a sweet little thing that chatted me up to bang. Back in the days of AOL software (you know the disks you got in the mail) I'd even install it on library or med school library computers. Chat for a few hours to search. Then unintstall. And do that for weeks at a time. I remember sneaking to get up in the middle of the night for the GREAT Yahoo chat rooms that used to be filled with girls you could cyber for a week, then bang.
I have rationalizations of course. The moment we got married the sex ended. We're in our 12th year of marriage and she only just NOW wants to start having sex. So we can have a baby. Problem is she's overweight (not a lot but enough) to where she doesn't do it for me. She's my best friend, but I don't see her in a sexual perspective at all. I tried everything over the years. Romance, doing the bills, doing the housework, surprises, making more money. And all we have is a beaver cleaver, sexually boring, but very deep frienship.
So I've turned to escorts. I've even found one I can trade services with and get laid for free. Sweet little hot piece of ass. I also have a hot piece of ass I can have sex with once a week, but she lives 2 hours away.
I'm sure I'm addicted. But I don't know if I want to stop.
I've been struggling for a while to figure out if I'm addicted to sex or just young and starved for action. I've not been with a huge number of providers, probably 8, although I often find it very hard to stop looking. I'm probably one of the youngest guys here on the boards. 25, and there have been many nights I've found myself browsing online sources looking for girls. It's been 3 in the morning and I have a final to study for the next morning but instead of studying I spend hours online looking for the "right girl" who I can afford and isn't going to turn out to be LE or some other scam. I'm on a full scholarship that I'd probably lose if caught which would make it impossible for me to complete my doctorate. Even then, I find myself coming back time and again to all the usual places (here, backpage, hx, etc.)
Like the poster before me, I have my rationalizations. I'd like some feedback from the community of to see if my rationalizations are a product of me trying to justify an addiction or if they're probably the cause of this "addiction". I'm a 25 year old dude who has only ever had 1 girlfriend. She and I have been together since we were 20 years old and had known each other for 2-3 years before we got together. I am the only guy she's even been with. Problem is, we don't have sex. I'm not talking "we don't have sex anymore". No. We don't have sex, ever. Never have. She isn't some religious nut but had a rough childhood and parents who always made her feel like sex was some horrible thing. Because of this upbringing (1) she is afraid they'll give her shit or somehow "find out" that she's having sex and (2) she doesn't ever want kids so is deadly afraid of having sex and getting pregnant. She is extremely risk averse and doesn't trust the pill or condoms which leaves me shit out of luck. On top of all this fear of sex she just has an overall weak sex drive. I haven't gotten a BJ in 3 years from her and calendar year 2010 I received 5 handjobs total. I try and initiate whenever I can but it's pretty hopeless and I've almost completely stopped trying because every time I do she says she doesn't want to feel pressured. Aside from sex, our relationship is pretty much what I'd want from someone who I could spend the rest of my life with.
It's only been about 7-8 months since I was with my first escort and up until October I would only go for BJs. Since October I've had sex with 2 different girls. Those two girls are the only two I've ever fucked. With the exception of one BBBJ I've used a condom for any action. After the BBBJ I got checked up for everything and was given a clean bill of health. I want to stop because I'm afraid my GF will want to have sex one day and I'd give her something. After finding out I was clean I counted myself lucky and thought I'd stop before my luck ran out but within 2 months I was back in a hotel room with a new girl.
Am I justified in seeking escorts? Is my behavior the result of an addiction or the result of starvation? You wouldn't call a homeless guy asking for food "addicted to food" so I don't know if I'd call myself addicted to sex.
Lookinfoit69
01-19-11, 19:31
Dude, I won't speak on the addition issue because I'm not qualified and have no opinion; but I will say this. Because I have an opinion, with her attitude about sex, if she ain't fuckin now, she ain't fuckin later!
I've been struggling for a while to figure out if I'm addicted to sex or just young and starved for action. I've not been with a huge number of providers, probably 8, although I often find it very hard to stop looking. I'm probably one of the youngest guys here on the boards. 25, and there have been many nights I've found myself browsing online sources looking for girls. It's been 3 in the morning and I have a final to study for the next morning but instead of studying I spend hours online looking for the "right girl" who I can afford and isn't going to turn out to be LE or some other scam. I'm on a full scholarship that I'd probably lose if caught which would make it impossible for me to complete my doctorate. Even then, I find myself coming back time and again to all the usual places (here, backpage, hx, etc.)
Like the poster before me, I have my rationalizations. I'd like some feedback from the community of to see if my rationalizations are a product of me trying to justify an addiction or if they're probably the cause of this "addiction". I'm a 25 year old dude who has only ever had 1 girlfriend. She and I have been together since we were 20 years old and had known each other for 2-3 years before we got together. I am the only guy she's even been with. Problem is, we don't have sex. I'm not talking "we don't have sex anymore". No. We don't have sex, ever. Never have. She isn't some religious nut but had a rough childhood and parents who always made her feel like sex was some horrible thing. Because of this upbringing (1) she is afraid they'll give her shit or somehow "find out" that she's having sex and (2) she doesn't ever want kids so is deadly afraid of having sex and getting pregnant. She is extremely risk averse and doesn't trust the pill or condoms which leaves me shit out of luck. On top of all this fear of sex she just has an overall weak sex drive. I haven't gotten a BJ in 3 years from her and calendar year 2010 I received 5 handjobs total. I try and initiate whenever I can but it's pretty hopeless and I've almost completely stopped trying because every time I do she says she doesn't want to feel pressured. Aside from sex, our relationship is pretty much what I'd want from someone who I could spend the rest of my life with.
It's only been about 7-8 months since I was with my first escort and up until October I would only go for BJs. Since October I've had sex with 2 different girls. Those two girls are the only two I've ever fucked. With the exception of one BBBJ I've used a condom for any action. After the BBBJ I got checked up for everything and was given a clean bill of health. I want to stop because I'm afraid my GF will want to have sex one day and I'd give her something. After finding out I was clean I counted myself lucky and thought I'd stop before my luck ran out but within 2 months I was back in a hotel room with a new girl.
Am I justified in seeking escorts? Is my behavior the result of an addiction or the result of starvation? You wouldn't call a homeless guy asking for food "addicted to food" so I don't know if I'd call myself addicted to sex.
Crazy Jim Wood
01-19-11, 22:23
If you are in a relationship with some chick who isn't fucking you, I don't think you're a sex addict. If you were a sex addict you would push her and push her until she either put out or left you. You just aren't getting any sex and therefore have to go looking.
I remember back when I was young fucking my SO 4-5 times a day. The more I fucked the more I wanted to fuck, it just wasn't satisfying. So she cut back to 3 times a day I started to get some on the side. Now THAT was satisfying. Fast-forward 15 years and now she is cutting back to 3 times a week. Well, I am fucking anything that moves and the sex with her is much better also. It's crazy, sometimes three different women in one day. They aren't pros either, although a lot of them are fat chicks. But hey pussy is pussy. It's all good. That is how you know you have a sex addiction. You take incredible risks to fuck these bags who aren't in the same league as the women you ocmpletely own. It sthis bottomless black hole of desire that consumes anything. It's a steam roller through the center of your life. It is your life and it defines you.
If you won't fuck a fat chick, you aren't a sex addict. You are more concerned about your image than sex.
A sex addict will be married to a super fine chick who he fucks every day.
He will also have a hot girl on the side.
Then he will go out and fuck some hos.
And then he will go out and fuck some fat chicks.
Then he is going to hit on every woman who comes across his path, coworkers, wives and girlfriends of coworkers, doctors, lawyers, waitresses, teachers, babysitters, female friends and relatives of his wife, etc.
He is going to fuck, and fuck, and fuck, till his dick is sore and he is broke and all his family and friends desert him. Because all he cares about is fucking.
If you're addicted you don't toy with the idea of quitting. There is nothing in life other than fucking.
I was reading other day about some story where a guy is seeing a psycholigist about this. His psychologist says, what are your hobbies? Guy says scuba diving, mountain climbing, bunch of other stuff. The psychologist says no, really, what are your hobbies. Guy says adultery... adultery is my hobby. THAT my friends is a sex addict.
So if you're an addict, best harness that drive, center your life around it in some logical way, or it is going to re-wire your life. Don't despair, one day old age or death is going to cure it. Then (in the case of the former) you will take up fishing or golf or buy a camper or a harley or play parcheezi, adopt a bunch of Haitian orphans or do one of those incomprehensible things that people around you do with their spare time, and you will be like, damn, all these years wasting my time on girls and blowing my money on hos when I could have been doing THIS!
If you are in a relationship with some chick who isn't fucking you, I don't think you're a sex addict. If you were a sex addict you would push her and push her until she either put out or left you. You just aren't getting any sex and therefore have to go looking.
THAT my friends is a sex addict.Damn man. You completely convinced me that I'm nowhere near any sort of addiction. Sounds like you had a pretty rough battle with a real problem.
Thanks to all of the community for the good feedback. Feels like it's time to celebrate by finding me some new affordable tail in the LA area.
Keep safe guys. Hopefully people keep posting in this thread because I think it's eye opening.
Crazy Jim Wood
01-20-11, 20:05
I don't have a problem with addiction. I refuse to let nonsexual parts of life interfere with the pursuit of my happiness.
Damn man. You completely convinced me that I'm nowhere near any sort of addiction. Sounds like you had a pretty rough battle with a real problem.
Thanks to all of the community for the good feedback. Feels like it's time to celebrate by finding me some new affordable tail in the LA area.
Keep safe guys. Hopefully people keep posting in this thread because I think it's eye opening.
This one?
http://popfap.com/videos/watch/302152_Megan_Madsen_first_time_ever_on_cameraYep. That's the one. God that girl is perfection. Dorky and hot and sexually enthusiastic all at the same time.
SoCalMonger
01-31-11, 02:47
I am addicted to cruising. There is something exciting about find a hotter girl on the streets. The lack of action in SD is the one thing that almost caused me to give up the sport.
This will seem almost comical, but I have been addicted for years and I think I have finally found a cure. it is simple and it has worked for me.
Everytime you think about calling a provider or cruising, DO THIS: Open your porn collection and jerk off. As obvious and stupid it may sound it really works. As soon as you are finished you will get this weird sense of happiness accompanied by 3 thoughts:
1) You saved yourself quite a bit of money just by jerking off.
2) Realization that calling a provider is stupid, time wasting and unnecessary.
3) Feeling carefree that you did not risk having STDs and entire cycle of worries that would normally start as soon you are finished with provider (I hated that feeling)
Yes, desires will come again, but just stop yourself with porn. When you are on BP or whereever else, close that browser and open up the porn. Jerk it off and be done with it! That plan works for me. TRY IT!
Davidonecall
02-17-11, 15:47
If you are in a relationship with some chick who isn't fucking you, I don't think you're a sex addict. If you were a sex addict you would push her and push her until she either put out or left you. You just aren't getting any sex and therefore have to go looking.
I remember back when I was young fucking my SO 4-5 times a day. The more I fucked the more I wanted to fuck, it just wasn't satisfying. So she cut back to 3 times a day I started to get some on the side. Now THAT was satisfying. Fast-forward 15 years and now she is cutting back to 3 times a week. Well, I am fucking anything that moves and the sex with her is much better also. It's crazy, sometimes three different women in one day. They aren't pros either, although a lot of them are fat chicks. But hey pussy is pussy. It's all good. That is how you know you have a sex addiction. You take incredible risks to fuck these bags who aren't in the same league as the women you ocmpletely own. It sthis bottomless black hole of desire that consumes anything. It's a steam roller through the center of your life. It is your life and it defines you.
If you won't fuck a fat chick, you aren't a sex addict. You are more concerned about your image than sex.
A sex addict will be married to a super fine chick who he fucks every day.
He will also have a hot girl on the side.
Then he will go out and fuck some hos.
And then he will go out and fuck some fat chicks.
Then he is going to hit on every woman who comes across his path, coworkers, wives and girlfriends of coworkers, doctors, lawyers, waitresses, teachers, babysitters, female friends and relatives of his wife, etc.
He is going to fuck, and fuck, and fuck, till his dick is sore and he is broke and all his family and friends desert him. Because all he cares about is fucking.
If you're addicted you don't toy with the idea of quitting. There is nothing in life other than fucking.
I was reading other day about some story where a guy is seeing a psycholigist about this. His psychologist says, what are your hobbies? Guy says scuba diving, mountain climbing, bunch of other stuff. The psychologist says no, really, what are your hobbies. Guy says adultery. Adultery is my hobby. THAT my friends is a sex addict.
So if you're an addict, best harness that drive, center your life around it in some logical way, or it is going to re-wire your life. Don't despair, one day old age or death is going to cure it. Then (in the case of the former) you will take up fishing or golf or buy a camper or a harley or play parcheezi, adopt a bunch of Haitian orphans or do one of those incomprehensible things that people around you do with their spare time, and you will be like, damn, all these years wasting my time on girls and blowing my money on hos when I could have been doing THIS! I guess I'm a 3/4 of an addict. Because I think that maybe 2 thing may not apply to me. But I'm not getting better so give me some time and I will be an addict.
This will seem almost comical, but I have been addicted for years and I think I have finally found a cure. It is simple and it has worked for me.
Everytime you think about calling a provider or cruising, DO THIS: Open your porn collection and jerk off. As obvious and stupid it may sound it really works. As soon as you are finished you will get this weird sense of happiness accompanied by 3 thoughts:
1) You saved yourself quite a bit of money just by jerking off.
2) Realization that calling a provider is stupid, time wasting and unnecessary.
3) Feeling carefree that you did not risk having STDs and entire cycle of worries that would normally start as soon you are finished with provider (I hated that feeling)
Yes, desires will come again, but just stop yourself with porn. When you are on BP or whereever else, close that browser and open up the porn. Jerk it off and be done with it! That plan works for me. TRY IT! Tried this but I'm young and one pop is just the beginning for me. It does help to bring some sanity to my thought processes but usually jerking it doesn't stop the searching.
Member #2041
02-18-11, 00:53
Tried this but I'm young and one pop is just the beginning for me. It does help to bring some sanity to my thought processes but usually jerking it doesn't stop the searching.Well, I'm addicted to fucking hotties. I'm also addicted to breathing. I've decided not to do without either one. But jerking off to porn has helped me to manage to keep my fucking hookers down to around once a week.
Lessaemily3
03-14-11, 14:04
I want to find live partner. Give me any advice.
Lessaemily
03-14-11, 14:10
Love is a big thing in the world. I love good thing.
Waitingtoexpel
04-12-11, 11:49
Well, I'm addicted to fucking hotties. I'm also addicted to breathing. I've decided not to do without either one. But jerking off to porn has helped me to manage to keep my fucking hookers down to around once a week.+1.
I've really been trying to stop, but even with the aid of massive amounts of porn which keep getting more and more hardcore, I'm only able to bring myself down to once a week on average.
Well, I'm addicted to fucking hotties. I'm also addicted to breathing. I've decided not to do without either one. But jerking off to porn has helped me to manage to keep my fucking hookers down to around once a week.My advice to you is this.
Since I have traveled extensively I have found that being in a city that has more women than men, don't hurt! I don't know where you're from, #2041, but that should be your goal, right now. In that sort of environment, it's easy to get several women at a time and that makes the hunting for a mate, a lot easier!
At least then you'll get your money's worth. .
This will seem almost comical, but I have been addicted for years and I think I have finally found a cure. It is simple and it has worked for me.
Everytime you think about calling a provider or cruising, DO THIS: Open your porn collection and jerk off. As obvious and stupid it may sound it really works. As soon as you are finished you will get this weird sense of happiness accompanied by 3 thoughts:
1) You saved yourself quite a bit of money just by jerking off.
2) Realization that calling a provider is stupid, time wasting and unnecessary.
3) Feeling carefree that you did not risk having STDs and entire cycle of worries that would normally start as soon you are finished with provider (I hated that feeling)
Yes, desires will come again, but just stop yourself with porn. When you are on BP or whereever else, close that browser and open up the porn. Jerk it off and be done with it! That plan works for me. TRY IT!
Member #4404
06-06-11, 23:19
Doing something so incredibly fucking stupid that you can't even believe a human being made that conscious decision, yet somehow, by some fantastic absolute miracle you come out with nothing but scratches and you fucking say, out loud, I will never do something that brainless again, I was so lucky, if I stop now I'm ahead of the game, I have so much to lose, I'm fucking done with all of it, I'm fucking sick of all of it. And a week later its like it never happened. There's no memory of any of it. Its like it was a dream and all you took away was how better not to get fucking caught next time. I fucking hate that. I hate that part of myself
Tomkat4848
06-07-11, 05:44
Doing something so incredibly fucking stupid that you can't even believe a human being made that conscious decision, yet somehow, by some fantastic absolute miracle you come out with nothing but scratches and you fucking say, out loud, I will never do something that brainless again, I was so lucky, if I stop now I'm ahead of the game, I have so much to lose, I'm fucking done with all of it, I'm fucking sick of all of it. And a week later its like it never happened. There's no memory of any of it. Its like it was a dream and all you took away was how better not to get fucking caught next time. I fucking hate that. I hate that part of myselfI don't hate myself but I love to fuck broads. The best part is when my cock is good and hard and I rub it up against her *nt and and her *nt starts to get wet and then the lips start to spread and then I ease my little head into that hot wet *nt deeper and deeper until I can feel myself coming. That is the greatest pleasure and I am a sex addict.
This one?
http://popfap.com/videos/watch/302152_Megan_Madsen_first_time_ever_on_camera
It is not available any more! I want to see that.
Jacksbackin
06-13-11, 00:59
It is not available any more! I want to see that.Http://www.tube8.com/teen/a-very-orgasmic-megan-madsen/417412/
It is not available any more! I want to see that.I found a great addictive video (Is that the one?)
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/600168/Megan_Madsen_first_time_ever_on_camera
Gigabyte40
07-13-11, 17:26
I know a guy who's a little over age 50, who met a hot young 21 year old stripper and dated her for about a year. He was surprised it even lasted that long. He said it was a great sugar daddy / sugar baby relationship. He took care of her and she took care of him. Almost weekly, sometimes more often. I imagine he spent thousands of dollars on her. While he enjoyed her company, he thought he could take care of her by showing her a better life. But it didn't happen.
For those of you that have dated these girls before, which of the following things do you think would bring about the end of such a relationship:
- a mean boyfriend, who's a convicted felon, with lies about him.
- addiction to pain pills. And lies about it.
- arrests for trespassing and shoplifting, says she didn't do it.
- arrest warrants for failing to appear in court.
- drivers license suspension for DUI.
- drivers license revoked for driving while suspended.
- addiction to other drugs, not sure how many or which ones, and lies about it.
- moving 2 or 3 times into awful, dirty, poor trailer neighborhoods.
- ends up living on the street, blowing all money on drugs, and denies it.
- jail time.
I'll give you a hint: it was all of the above.
Have fun. Don't try this at home.
I found a great addictive video (Is that the one?)
http://www.cliphunter.com/w/600168/Megan_Madsen_first_time_ever_on_cameraNO doubt. That is some seriously hot shit.
I started 'doing this' when I posted an ad on CL wanting a massage with a hot girl- back in 2009. This one, reallllly hot black girl responded. She was gorgeous, and would come into the room wearing thigh highs. Eventually, I got to fvck her, she came over late one night, and we ended up having unprotected sex. I was hooked, but felt really stupid about the unprotected sex thing.
Eventually I started surfing BP and getting outcall. Once I got comfortable, even did incall. I've seen VIP girls, who charge 5 an hour to clearly local girls who are 'on something'. I've been very careful with protection. But have 'wandered down that road' of entertaining dating a few girls. Even ended up having a porn star want to date me. I think I've dreamed of about 40 girls. Maybe a few more. And I've spent a lot of $.
I make great money. Easily over 6 figures, and got caught by an ex, who wanted to keep dating me. I don't have to do this, I'm a good looking guy. But I'm clearly addicted to sex and it's affecting my current gf- I need that 'edge' to make it hot and sexy.
But I want to stop. So my question is; should I just find a girl who absolutely rings my bell- all the time or is that just part of the issue? Meaning, eventually I'll want to go out and fvck other girls again. So how do I stop?
I need to stop. I'd like to have a normal life again. I think? LOL
Any advice is appreciated.
If you do some research online under Sexual Addiction you will find that you are a classic case. It's not about the kill, its the thrill of the hunt. I am in the same position as you and have gone through some highs and lows. It truly is an addiction. Like any addiction there are 12 step programs out there that work for some people. If you are ready to get help, try looking for a local SA or SAA meeting. I keep telling myself I need to get back into recovery but am still looking for another piece of ass.
I started 'doing this' when I posted an ad on CL wanting a massage with a hot girl- back in 2009. This one, reallllly hot black girl responded. She was gorgeous, and would come into the room wearing thigh highs. Eventually, I got to fvck her, she came over late one night, and we ended up having unprotected sex. I was hooked, but felt really stupid about the unprotected sex thing.
Eventually I started surfing BP and getting outcall. Once I got comfortable, even did incall. I've seen VIP girls, who charge 5 an hour to clearly local girls who are 'on something'. I've been very careful with protection. But have 'wandered down that road' of entertaining dating a few girls. Even ended up having a porn star want to date me. I think I've dreamed of about 40 girls. Maybe a few more. And I've spent a lot of $.
I make great money. Easily over 6 figures, and got caught by an ex, who wanted to keep dating me. I don't have to do this, I'm a good looking guy. But I'm clearly addicted to sex and it's affecting my current gf- I need that 'edge' to make it hot and sexy.
But I want to stop. So my question is; should I just find a girl who absolutely rings my bell- all the time or is that just part of the issue? Meaning, eventually I'll want to go out and fvck other girls again. So how do I stop?
I need to stop. I'd like to have a normal life again. I think? LOL
Any advice is appreciated.
Crazy Jim Wood
11-20-11, 12:47
I think that part of the classic definition of an addiction is it is something you continue despite it negatively affecting your life, and you seem to be doing ok.
If you have plenty of money, stick with the high-end girls, massage parlors, etc, you shouldn't have too many problems. Shit date them if you like get freebies on the side, if you see the girl few times and bareback her, welcome to the real world, I think everyone here does sooner or later, and 99% of us live to tell.
If your civilian girlfriend / ex / wife etc is ok with it, it sounds like you are going to get to have your cake and eat it, too.
You aren't going to get out of this world alive, and you can't take the money with you, so drive on my man.
I started 'doing this' when I posted an ad on CL wanting a massage with a hot girl- back in 2009. This one, reallllly hot black girl responded. She was gorgeous, and would come into the room wearing thigh highs. Eventually, I got to fvck her, she came over late one night, and we ended up having unprotected sex. I was hooked, but felt really stupid about the unprotected sex thing.
Eventually I started surfing BP and getting outcall. Once I got comfortable, even did incall. I've seen VIP girls, who charge 5 an hour to clearly local girls who are 'on something'. I've been very careful with protection. But have 'wandered down that road' of entertaining dating a few girls. Even ended up having a porn star want to date me. I think I've dreamed of about 40 girls. Maybe a few more. And I've spent a lot of $.
I make great money. Easily over 6 figures, and got caught by an ex, who wanted to keep dating me. I don't have to do this, I'm a good looking guy. But I'm clearly addicted to sex and it's affecting my current gf- I need that 'edge' to make it hot and sexy.
But I want to stop. So my question is; should I just find a girl who absolutely rings my bell- all the time or is that just part of the issue? Meaning, eventually I'll want to go out and fvck other girls again. So how do I stop?
I need to stop. I'd like to have a normal life again. I think? LOL
Any advice is appreciated.
Chris Wake
11-24-11, 22:51
Which porn-star has the best orgasm response? This response might be moaning, shivering, sighing.
If you can give examples it would be great.
P. S.
I know I am making things worse for me as a sexual addict however I just can't help it!Chloe used to be great at orgasm responses. But nowadays it's just overacting to the max
This will seem almost comical, but I have been addicted for years and I think I have finally found a cure. It is simple and it has worked for me.
Everytime you think about calling a provider or cruising, DO THIS: Open your porn collection and jerk off. As obvious and stupid it may sound it really works. As soon as you are finished you will get this weird sense of happiness accompanied by 3 thoughts:
1) You saved yourself quite a bit of money just by jerking off.
2) Realization that calling a provider is stupid, time wasting and unnecessary.
3) Feeling carefree that you did not risk having STDs and entire cycle of worries that would normally start as soon you are finished with provider (I hated that feeling)
Yes, desires will come again, but just stop yourself with porn. When you are on BP or whereever else, close that browser and open up the porn. Jerk it off and be done with it! That plan works for me. TRY IT!I use this method frequently, as I'm sure many on these boards do. That chemical that runs through your body once you get yourself all worked up while looking for a hottie magically seems to go away right after you cum. However, jerking off nonstop isn't really the answer to addiction either. It is a safer alternative to banging chicks for money, but is still an addiction in itself.
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KianFleming21
01-12-12, 05:19
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Sex is needed but how if sex becoming sex addiction it will gives you danger for your health and to cure sex addiction you may visit here.
http://newlifehabits.com/Okay here's one with a slightly different perspective on masturbation. http://www.menshealth.com/health/health-and-sexual-benefits-masturbation Very interesting read. I'm beginning to wonder what's addition and what's not.
This will seem almost comical, but I have been addicted for years and I think I have finally found a cure. It is simple and it has worked for me.
Everytime you think about calling a provider or cruising, DO THIS: Open your porn collection and jerk off. As obvious and stupid it may sound it really works. As soon as you are finished you will get this weird sense of happiness accompanied by 3 thoughts:
1) You saved yourself quite a bit of money just by jerking off.
2) Realization that calling a provider is stupid, time wasting and unnecessary.
3) Feeling carefree that you did not risk having STDs and entire cycle of worries that would normally start as soon you are finished with provider (I hated that feeling)
Yes, desires will come again, but just stop yourself with porn. When you are on BP or whereever else, close that browser and open up the porn. Jerk it off and be done with it! That plan works for me. TRY IT!
This is one of the better ideas here, and it might work well for some guys.
But in my experience, most of my relapses have been triggered by porn. It reminds you of the possibilities, you start thinking that you are missing out on something, and before you know it, you're on the hunt for an escort.
It's during the weeks and months that I forgo looking at porn that I am relatively calm and the "big head controls the small head", as they say. I've gotten better at self-control as the years goes by, but I'm not so sure it's due to wisdom as it is with simply aging. In some respects, growing old is helpful.
Another thing that can be helpful is the "rational" memory of lousy experiences, i.e. were a waste of time and money. But then again there were also the relatively-rare great experiences, and especially when watching porn the "irrational" mind tends to highlight the good memories and suppress the bad.
Kintaro II
05-30-12, 21:52
I think that part of the classic definition of an addiction is it is something you continue despite it negatively affecting your life, and you seem to be doing ok.
If you have plenty of money, stick with the high-end girls, massage parlors, etc, you shouldn't have too many problems. Shit date them if you like get freebies on the side, if you see the girl few times and bareback her, welcome to the real world, I think everyone here does sooner or later, and 99% of us live to tell.
If your civilian girlfriend / ex / wife etc is ok with it, it sounds like you are going to get to have your cake and eat it, too.
You aren't going to get out of this world alive, and you can't take the money with you, so drive on my man.Any bareback stories anyone wants to share concerning taking the bareback plunge with a stripper? I had my chances, declined, and regret doing so a bit.
As of right now, I have 1 GF finishing up her last year at UC. 1 GF in the 1st year of a master's program at OSU, a FWB (who knows the UC GF) , and a FB at IU who's graduating now and about to go to work up north. If I don't have sex at least four times a week, I get moody. If I don't have all four of them in a month, I feel like I failed.
I sometimes leave early from work to enjoy the company of my UC GF. I also have come into work late multiple times in the same week due to UC GF.
I allow myself one escort a month, but only if they offer interesting services. I want to add more women.
Me and a monger on here were in a great s club close by, went to he VIP room with a beauty new tot he business, well we didn't have any protection, dumb me tried to buy some from the mens room guy, any back upstairs, murder she wrote, good though
Chloe used to be great at orgasm responses. But nowadays it's just overacting to the maxShe is still in softcore
Hey All.
I got addicted 33 years ago at 22 from massage parlors, then asian ones, now escorts. I really need to stop visiting so frequently. I make decent money, but can't get my car repaired. I'm going to try the jerk off method. One observation I've made is that when I have a convenient time to hit some place (wife out with sister) I'll say to myself "Are you horny enough right now to go jerk off?" 8/10 times I'm not.
Anyone else have a similar experience?
Be safe
HootenPecker
12-17-12, 23:51
Hey All.
I got addicted 33 years ago at 22 from massage parlors, then asian ones, now escorts. I really need to stop visiting so frequently. I make decent money, but can't get my car repaired. I'm going to try the jerk off method. One observation I've made is that when I have a convenient time to hit some place (wife out with sister) I'll say to myself "Are you horny enough right now to go jerk off?" 8/10 times I'm not.
Anyone else have a similar experience?
Be safeStarting your addiction at a massage parlor or book store and then progressing to Streetwalkers or Ecsorts is a common course for those of us who are truly sex addicts and not just mongers. For me the pleasure has not really been in the actual act, but more in the preperation and the hunt. There is not a whole lot of hunting to do when you just beat off though. So the thrill is not really there. Describing yourself as making decent money but not able to get your car repaired is a fairly good sysptom of being a sex addict. If you are truly interested, look up SA or SAA for meetings that are located conviently for you. Attend a few meetings and see if they are of any benefit to you.
Starting your addiction at a massage parlor or book store and then progressing to Streetwalkers or Ecsorts is a common course for those of us who are truly sex addicts and not just mongers. For me the pleasure has not really been in the actual act, but more in the preperation and the hunt. There is not a whole lot of hunting to do when you just beat off though. So the thrill is not really there. Describing yourself as making decent money but not able to get your car repaired is a fairly good sysptom of being a sex addict. If you are truly interested, look up SA or SAA for meetings that are located conviently for you. Attend a few meetings and see if they are of any benefit to you.Thanks for the reply! I'm going to look into it. I'm trying to stop my conditioning!
I have been "clean" for 3 months now. I won't brag about it, though, until it's been a year, which I expect is how long it takes to forget the feeling. There could still be a relapse.
But one possibly useful advice: I found the book "Breaking The Cycle: Free Yourself From Sexual Addiction." by George N. Collins to be very helpful. It reveals some of the possible reasons for the addiction (which happened to be applicable to me) leading to a better understanding of myself. The book provided several practical ideas for how to break free. I think it may work for those who are thoughtful and on the threshold of quitting anyway. For others, a deeper intervention might be necessary. Or maybe you're happy to not quit. But then, as the book asks, why are you reading this?
Buying the book via Kindle or similar online venue is fairly discreet, for those of you who prefer not to have an incriminating hardcopy of such a book.
Alright, let's see if I make it to 1 year.
Lily Whyte
01-07-13, 10:32
Hello. I am a provider, and I've also studied sexuality and deviant behavior as an undergrad and graduate student.
I just wanted to say that wanting to have sex with multiple people, wanting to pay for sex within your own financially acceptable limits, wanting to have "weird" or kinky sex, or wanting to have sex more than X number of times per day / week / month isn't a sign of pathology! It's completely okay to have different desires, as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others or interfere with a normal and productive life.
This article was published in July 2012, and it is EXCELLENT. .
http://thehumanist.org/july-august-2012/you're-addicted-to-what/
There was also a comment made about "the thrill of the hunt," essentially. That is one thing that I like about sex, in general, and why I particularly like my job these days. It's the excitement of finding someone who's interested, talking yourself up and flirting, closing the deal, and meeting them. It's the thrill of getting inside of his (or her, occasionally) head and finding out who his perfect woman would be, and becoming her for a half hour or hour. It's getting on USASG and seeing the reviews, and having people contact you to say,"Baby, my buddy says that you were AWESOME."
I do see how THAT could be addictive! LOL.
I've tried the hand release method as well, but each time I cheat myself out of the deed at an AMP or what not I put a 100. 00 in my stock account, its been growing good,
Hello. I am a provider, and I've also studied sexuality and deviant behavior as an undergrad and graduate student.
I just wanted to say that wanting to have sex with multiple people, wanting to pay for sex within your own financially acceptable limits, wanting to have "weird" or kinky sex, or wanting to have sex more than X number of times per day / week / month isn't a sign of pathology! It's completely okay to have different desires, as long as they don't infringe on the rights of others or interfere with a normal and productive life.
This article was published in July 2012, and it is EXCELLENT. .
http://thehumanist.org/july-august-2012/you
're-addicted-to-what/
There was also a comment made about "the thrill of the hunt," essentially. That is one thing that I like about sex, in general, and why I particularly like my job these days. It's the excitement of finding someone who's interested, talking yourself up and flirting, closing the deal, and meeting them. It's the thrill of getting inside of his (or her, occasionally) head and finding out who his perfect woman would be, and becoming her for a half hour or hour. It's getting on USASG and seeing the reviews, and having people contact you to say,"Baby, my buddy says that you were AWESOME."
I do see how THAT could be addictive! LOL.Tremendous article, Lily White. Thanks for posting.
My girlfriend has wanted to get into brown and wet sports.
She is really open minded and a nymphomaniac.
She has asked me to practically crap on her mouth.
I am very opening minded but I think this is over the top.
Do you all think she needs help?
Joe Black.
Dude, I hooked up w a chick off CL. After cumming in her mouth she wanted me to piss into her mouth so she could swallow it. I did what she wanted and she gulped down my stream. I felt dirty during the act and felt dirtier on the drive back home. I felt like a little bit of my humanity was lost. So IF you do what she wants be aware that you may feel different about her and maybe yourself. Also, I think she might need help for a previous trauma in her life that makes her desire this kind of kink in her life. Just my 2 cents.
My girlfriend has wanted to get into brown and wet sports.
She is really open minded and a nymphomaniac.
She has asked me to practically crap on her mouth.
I am very opening minded but I think this is over the top.
Do you all think she needs help?
Joe Black.
Dude, I hooked up w a chick off CL. After cumming in her mouth she wanted me to piss into her mouth so she could swallow it. I did what she wanted and she gulped down my stream. I felt dirty during the act and felt dirtier on the drive back home. I felt like a little bit of my humanity was lost. So IF you do what she wants be aware that you may feel different about her and maybe yourself. Also, I think she might need help for a previous trauma in her life that makes her desire this kind of kink in her life. Just my 2 cents.So. Do you kiss her afterwards? What's the correct protocol? I crap in her mouth then kiss her? Ugh!
HollywoodGuy
07-20-13, 19:23
If you are in a relationship with some chick who isn't fucking you, I don't think you're a sex addict. If you were a sex addict you would push her and push her until she either put out or left you. You just aren't getting any sex and therefore have to go looking.
I remember back when I was young fucking my SO 4-5 times a day. The more I fucked the more I wanted to fuck, it just wasn't satisfying. So she cut back to 3 times a day I started to get some on the side. Now THAT was satisfying. Fast-forward 15 years and now she is cutting back to 3 times a week. Well, I am fucking anything that moves and the sex with her is much better also. It's crazy, sometimes three different women in one day. They aren't pros either, although a lot of them are fat chicks. But hey pussy is pussy. It's all good. That is how you know you have a sex addiction. You take incredible risks to fuck these bags who aren't in the same league as the women you ocmpletely own. It sthis bottomless black hole of desire that consumes anything. It's a steam roller through the center of your life. It is your life and it defines you.
If you won't fuck a fat chick, you aren't a sex addict. You are more concerned about your image than sex.
A sex addict will be married to a super fine chick who he fucks every day.
He will also have a hot girl on the side.
Then he will go out and fuck some hos.
And then he will go out and fuck some fat chicks.
Then he is going to hit on every woman who comes across his path, coworkers, wives and girlfriends of coworkers, doctors, lawyers, waitresses, teachers, babysitters, female friends and relatives of his wife, etc.
He is going to fuck, and fuck, and fuck, till his dick is sore and he is broke and all his family and friends desert him. Because all he cares about is fucking.
If you're addicted you don't toy with the idea of quitting. There is nothing in life other than fucking.
I was reading other day about some story where a guy is seeing a psycholigist about this. His psychologist says, what are your hobbies? Guy says scuba diving, mountain climbing, bunch of other stuff. The psychologist says no, really, what are your hobbies. Guy says adultery. Adultery is my hobby. THAT my friends is a sex addict.
So if you're an addict, best harness that drive, center your life around it in some logical way, or it is going to re-wire your life. Don't despair, one day old age or death is going to cure it. Then (in the case of the former) you will take up fishing or golf or buy a camper or a harley or play parcheezi, adopt a bunch of Haitian orphans or do one of those incomprehensible things that people around you do with their spare time, and you will be like, damn, all these years wasting my time on girls and blowing my money on hos when I could have been doing THIS!So far I have read from the most current post back to this one. And it's the first one that makes any sense. I will keep reading backwards, but for now I will post. I went to SA and decided I was not a sex addict. My vision of a sex addict is some one that has sex to the point that it takes away from being able to work, care for their family or inflicts lasting pain to the mouth, genitals, or ass. Or is with children or animals.
I have only 2 things in my life. One is work, I work 7 days a week. The other is girls. I only fuck hotties and do it daily. No matter how hot they are, one is never enough. One a day is fine. Sometimes I do 2. I am not too into the pursuit. It's just a neccessary part of the game. I am heavily into the girls falling in love with me as I tell all of them about all my other girls and they still have to profess their undying love over and over. Mostly all I talk about with girls is sex.
I can think of a lot worse things to be addicted to. When any new girl asks what I do for fun I tell them I am doing it right now. Thats it. Work and girls. I am more into the SB thing so I can get everything I need as a SW will not work for me.
I will keep RTFF.
After cumming in her mouth she wanted me to piss into her mouth so she could swallow it.Sounds like my kind of girl.
Got digits?
I agree with a lot of this.
There's some disagreement among psychologists that there even exists such an thing as sex addiction. I think it's relative to your situation. If you are open and honest towards your sexual partners (and I'm not addressing your situation because I don't know enough to say, but just writing generally) there is no problem, assuming the other parts of your "vision of a sex addict" are absent, too. But if you want to quit because of your situation in life, for example married, cannot afford scandal, nearly broke, etc, then you might be an addict and need help, in my opinion.
Only a small percentage of the posts here have been helpful, and I liked the one you quoted. Very amusing. Let me add that I think the Sugar Baby route is a superior way to go if you can afford it and can keep the emotional distance. For me, it would be financially ruinous and emotionally strenuous. But that's just me.
So far I have read from the most current post back to this one. And it's the first one that makes any sense. I will keep reading backwards, but for now I will post. I went to SA and decided I was not a sex addict. My vision of a sex addict is some one that has sex to the point that it takes away from being able to work, care for their family or inflicts lasting pain to the mouth, genitals, or ass. Or is with children or animals.
I have only 2 things in my life. One is work, I work 7 days a week. The other is girls. I only fuck hotties and do it daily. No matter how hot they are, one is never enough. One a day is fine. Sometimes I do 2. I am not too into the pursuit. It's just a neccessary part of the game. I am heavily into the girls falling in love with me as I tell all of them about all my other girls and they still have to profess their undying love over and over. Mostly all I talk about with girls is sex.
I can think of a lot worse things to be addicted to. When any new girl asks what I do for fun I tell them I am doing it right now. Thats it. Work and girls. I am more into the SB thing so I can get everything I need as a SW will not work for me.
I will keep RTFF.
I think she needs help ASAP.
Are you still together?
I would be very uncomfortable to be around with her.
My girlfriend has wanted to get into brown and wet sports.
She is really open minded and a nymphomaniac.
She has asked me to practically crap on her mouth.
I am very opening minded but I think this is over the top.
Do you all think she needs help?
Joe Black.
KingIpinni
08-14-13, 20:40
Dude, I hooked up w a chick off CL. After cumming in her mouth she wanted me to piss into her mouth so she could swallow it. I did what she wanted and she gulped down my stream. I felt dirty during the act and felt dirtier on the drive back home. I felt like a little bit of my humanity was lost. So IF you do what she wants be aware that you may feel different about her and maybe yourself. Also, I think she might need help for a previous trauma in her life that makes her desire this kind of kink in her life. Just my 2 cents.This is the greatest post I have read! I never judge anyone for their preferences, but I would probably have been laughing too hard to even be able to piss, had I been in your spot! Too funny!
Dude, I hooked up w a chick off CL. After cumming in her mouth she wanted me to piss into her mouth so she could swallow it. I did what she wanted and she gulped down my stream. I felt dirty during the act and felt dirtier on the drive back home. I felt like a little bit of my humanity was lost. So IF you do what she wants be aware that you may feel different about her and maybe yourself. Also, I think she might need help for a previous trauma in her life that makes her desire this kind of kink in her life. Just my 2 cents.Man talk about pressure. I get stage fright for pissing sometimes just at the toilet. LOL. To each their own anyways. I know I prefer for her to do the mouth pissing not me!
I wouldn't feel like you lost any humanity though. Some people like different things. Don't be too hard on yourself. I mean after all, she could've just wanted something to wash out the taste of the cum. LOL! You never know!
Following up my post 341 below.
It's been over a year since I quit seeing prostitutes. It was not easy, especially at first, but now my mind has changed completely. This is not a moralising post, though, because I had "been there, done that" for a long time. It's been a long time coming.
The book I mentioned in post 341 is useful, but I think only if you are ready to quit. I think a big contributor to my ability to quit was simply reaching a certain age. I imagine that a lot of guys would need an intervention or a crisis to quit. Probably when I was in my 20's I would not be successful. The book mentioned in 341 has a lot of useful advice (not all applicable to me) and points out the origin of this "addiction" or whatever we want to call it, and offers a lot of other useful insight into prostitution.
One big thing I did to help myself: I had a major anniversary last year and bought my wife the super-expensive luxury car she had always dreamed of. This not only improved my relations with her, but helped force me to abandon extra expenses like prostitution, unless I was so far gone that I was willing to dig into our kid's college savings, which I thought I was not, and that proved true. Unrelated to anything I've mentioned so far, we had some other financial crises this year, which helped distract me from prostitution, but I still have that absurdly expensive car, which for me has become a symbol of my commitment to change.
I feel a lot better. As I said, my mind has changed. And I feel a mix of pride for quitting and humility for my past.
I enjoy good sex, but find that cruising a lot when there is little to no SW's to be depressing. This is the situation we ave in San Diego. So these days I only cruise when I am in the area or make a occasional recon. Otherwise I make a trip to Tijuana a few times a month. The other issue is that gas is so expensive that it is easy to blow through $20 worth of gas. There used to be a quite a few girls on ECB in SD. So there was a certain thrill in the hunt. It was kind of exciting to see if there was a hotter SW out there.
Yes I have a addiction. But it's not a problem! I am picky when it comes to SW and BP prostitutes but I have taken some chances. My favorite is CL as strolling. It takes months but when you get one to take the bait you can have lots of fun. I have the hottest 22 yr old that will play for as cheap as $40 if I throw a $100 every so often (but for that $100 I talked her into letting me video it). It takes time but you can find that treasure if you wait it out.
Now I am also a manager at work and I have used that to get a couple of BJs and tits. Is it work risking my job. No but here again I have an addiction!
Gummie Bear
02-03-14, 22:24
Congratulations! I've been trying to quit this addiction for the past 10 years. I'm afraid to get any books and have them found around the house. I love my wife and hate what I am doing and have not been able to quit. We risk everything with this "hobby." I have a job where I'm likely to run into the SW's and escorts I've frequented and lose my job, lose my freedom, lose the love of my life and lose career choices. Nothing really good comes out of this hobby except a fun time here and there but the risks arent worth it. I wish I could ask my loved one to help me but I can't imagine that would go over well. This addiction sucks and how can one get treatment or help yourself when you have to hide everything. I would be so proud to say I freed myself from this addiction.
Following up my post 341 below.
It's been over a year since I quit seeing prostitutes. It was not easy, especially at first, but now my mind has changed completely. This is not a moralising post, though, because I had "been there, done that" for a long time. It's been a long time coming.
The book I mentioned in post 341 is useful, but I think only if you are ready to quit. I think a big contributor to my ability to quit was simply reaching a certain age. I imagine that a lot of guys would need an intervention or a crisis to quit. Probably when I was in my 20's I would not be successful. The book mentioned in 341 has a lot of useful advice (not all applicable to me) and points out the origin of this "addiction" or whatever we want to call it, and offers a lot of other useful insight into prostitution.
One big thing I did to help myself: I had a major anniversary last year and bought my wife the super-expensive luxury car she had always dreamed of. This not only improved my relations with her, but helped force me to abandon extra expenses like prostitution, unless I was so far gone that I was willing to dig into our kid's college savings, which I thought I was not, and that proved true. Unrelated to anything I've mentioned so far, we had some other financial crises this year, which helped distract me from prostitution, but I still have that absurdly expensive car, which for me has become a symbol of my commitment to change.
I feel a lot better. As I said, my mind has changed. And I feel a mix of pride for quitting and humility for my past.
Simply put, I QUIT. I literally have to confess that I am a sex addict. I mean, shit, I spend a lot of time in a day doing sexual stuff by myself, with others, and fantasizing.
It is really really sad. It is a disease, it is really no different than smoking nicotine, or gambling, or whatever that is sinful but fun as fuck.
There was this post that lead me to start this thread. I was thinking along the same lines, but I think it is best to discuss this openly.
What I really want to know is how many of you are similar to me? Like, you lose count how many time you have masturbated in a day, or lost count on how many ho's have you bang in a month? Or just pretty much every woman you see on the street that is over a 5 you think how it would be to hit it while driving, walking?
There is a nature side of things, but fuck man, I am being destroyed by these thoughts every 7 seconds.
It is simply a disease, I need to cure it, and I don't really fucking have time to go to a so called rehab and fucking pay many grand to talk to retarded groups of people who need to open up.
I try to do as many things as I can throughout the day, but once I have free time, man fuck, the junior is thinking and that just fucking make me lose control. It is entirely biologically fucked to fight this.
Just like nicotine, I have no idea how many times I need to kick this habit. I know old fucks that are 85 years old want to fuck 18 year olds. Is it game over for me? Is it pretty much human nature to try to fuck and procreate till you fucking die?
I don't know man, this is fucking depressing. I have no self control, I check usasexguide.info every day around midnight and hit with a freaking site that is either backing up and can't load shit, or it just said, ERROR.
What the fuck man, WHAT THE FUCK! I swear, I wish I have no money, and that way I will be starved sexually and maybe that will cure me. But fuck man, I have enough to do this every day and I wouldn't even notice it.
After awhile, I've already fucked every type of pussy, big, small, colored, not colored, fat, skinny, weirdos, flakers, smokers, drug addicts, you fucking name it.
So, why the fuck do I come back every time, to a fucking dirty ass place that literally is a door knob, everyone had a turn. Haha.
So this thread I hope will be a reminder that I FUCKING QUIT and see how long I can be fucking sober from this addiction.
H. W.
Howard5354
07-29-14, 07:10
Quitting cold turkey is hard. Try cutting back or restrict yourself to high quality girls and the money will make you cut back. BTW, I am up there and you never stop thinking about fucking young 18 year olds. Its a man thing.
Simply put, I QUIT. I literally have to confess that I am a sex addict. I mean, shit, I spend a lot of time in a day doing sexual stuff by myself, with others, and fantasizing.
It is really really sad. It is a disease, it is really no different than smoking nicotine, or gambling, or whatever that is sinful but fun as fuck.
There was this post that lead me to start this thread. I was thinking along the same lines, but I think it is best to discuss this openly.
What I really want to know is how many of you are similar to me? Like, you lose count how many time you have masturbated in a day, or lost count on how many ho's have you bang in a month? Or just pretty much every woman you see on the street that is over a 5 you think how it would be to hit it while driving, walking?
There is a nature side of things, but fuck man, I am being destroyed by these thoughts every 7 seconds.
It is simply a disease, I need to cure it, and I don't really fucking have time to go to a so called rehab and fucking pay many grand to talk to retarded groups of people who need to open up.
I try to do as many things as I can throughout the day, but once I have free time, man fuck, the junior is thinking and that just fucking make me lose control. It is entirely biologically fucked to fight this.
Just like nicotine, I have no idea how many times I need to kick this habit. I know old fucks that are 85 years old want to fuck 18 year olds. Is it game over for me? Is it pretty much human nature to try to fuck and procreate till you fucking die?
I don't know man, this is fucking depressing. I have no self control, I check usasexguide.info every day around midnight and hit with a freaking site that is either backing up and can't load shit, or it just said, ERROR.
What the fuck man, WHAT THE FUCK! I swear, I wish I have no money, and that way I will be starved sexually and maybe that will cure me. But fuck man, I have enough to do this every day and I wouldn't even notice it.
After awhile, I've already fucked every type of pussy, big, small, colored, not colored, fat, skinny, weirdos, flakers, smokers, drug addicts, you fucking name it.
So, why the fuck do I come back every time, to a fucking dirty ass place that literally is a door knob, everyone had a turn. Haha.
So this thread I hope will be a reminder that I FUCKING QUIT and see how long I can be fucking sober from this addiction.
H. W.
Miri Kitani
07-29-14, 07:35
I think this tread should be deleted by the admins it does not belong in this forum. Returning to this forum to post is only going to remind of what your missing. Its counter productive to what you want to achieve. IMHO.
Rotten Otto
07-29-14, 14:37
Simply put, I QUIT. I literally have to confess that I am a sex addict. I mean, shit, I spend a lot of time in a day doing sexual stuff by myself, with others, and fantasizing.
It is really really sad. It is a disease, it is really no different than smoking nicotine, or gambling, or whatever that is sinful but fun as fuck.
There was this post that lead me to start this thread. I was thinking along the same lines, but I think it is best to discuss this openly.
What I really want to know is how many of you are similar to me? Like, you lose count how many time you have masturbated in a day, or lost count on how many ho's have you bang in a month? Or just pretty much every woman you see on the street that is over a 5 you think how it would be to hit it while driving, walking?
There is a nature side of things, but fuck man, I am being destroyed by these thoughts every 7 seconds.
It is simply a disease, I need to cure it, and I don't really fucking have time to go to a so called rehab and fucking pay many grand to talk to retarded groups of people who need to open up.
I try to do as many things as I can throughout the day, but once I have free time, man fuck, the junior is thinking and that just fucking make me lose control. It is entirely biologically fucked to fight this.
Just like nicotine, I have no idea how many times I need to kick this habit. I know old fucks that are 85 years old want to fuck 18 year olds. Is it game over for me? Is it pretty much human nature to try to fuck and procreate till you fucking die?
I don't know man, this is fucking depressing. I have no self control, I check usasexguide.info every day around midnight and hit with a freaking site that is either backing up and can't load shit, or it just said, ERROR.
What the fuck man, WHAT THE FUCK! I swear, I wish I have no money, and that way I will be starved sexually and maybe that will cure me. But fuck man, I have enough to do this every day and I wouldn't even notice it.
After awhile, I've already fucked every type of pussy, big, small, colored, not colored, fat, skinny, weirdos, flakers, smokers, drug addicts, you fucking name it.
So, why the fuck do I come back every time, to a fucking dirty ass place that literally is a door knob, everyone had a turn. Haha.
So this thread I hope will be a reminder that I FUCKING QUIT and see how long I can be fucking sober from this addiction.
H. W.So, have you quit quitting yet? I'ts been about an hour.
See you at the AMP's, dawg.
ManapuaMan
07-29-14, 14:41
Simply put, I QUIT. I literally have to confess that I am a sex addict. I mean, shit, I spend a lot of time in a day doing sexual stuff by myself, with others, and fantasizing.
It is really really sad. It is a disease, it is really no different than smoking nicotine, or gambling, or whatever that is sinful but fun as fuck.
There was this post that lead me to start this thread. I was thinking along the same lines, but I think it is best to discuss this openly.
What I really want to know is how many of you are similar to me? Like, you lose count how many time you have masturbated in a day, or lost count on how many ho's have you bang in a month? Or just pretty much every woman you see on the street that is over a 5 you think how it would be to hit it while driving, walking?
There is a nature side of things, but fuck man, I am being destroyed by these thoughts every 7 seconds.
It is simply a disease, I need to cure it, and I don't really fucking have time to go to a so called rehab and fucking pay many grand to talk to retarded groups of people who need to open up.
I try to do as many things as I can throughout the day, but once I have free time, man fuck, the junior is thinking and that just fucking make me lose control. It is entirely biologically fucked to fight this.
Just like nicotine, I have no idea how many times I need to kick this habit. I know old fucks that are 85 years old want to fuck 18 year olds. Is it game over for me? Is it pretty much human nature to try to fuck and procreate till you fucking die?
I don't know man, this is fucking depressing. I have no self control, I check usasexguide.info every day around midnight and hit with a freaking site that is either backing up and can't load shit, or it just said, ERROR.
What the fuck man, WHAT THE FUCK! I swear, I wish I have no money, and that way I will be starved sexually and maybe that will cure me. But fuck man, I have enough to do this every day and I wouldn't even notice it.
After awhile, I've already fucked every type of pussy, big, small, colored, not colored, fat, skinny, weirdos, flakers, smokers, drug addicts, you fucking name it.
So, why the fuck do I come back every time, to a fucking dirty ass place that literally is a door knob, everyone had a turn. Haha.
So this thread I hope will be a reminder that I FUCKING QUIT and see how long I can be fucking sober from this addiction.
H. W.My ATF once warned me about being addicted, advised me to quit while she was feeding my addiction! How can you quit? Die. LOL. Plain and simple.
2 old men I know (in their 80's) at Waialae CC both told me if you cannot fuck "you might as well be dead". This after they were arguing about which ED drug was more effective, Viagra or Levitra.
So I am not going to try quitting again. Ain't going to work. I am an addict. If you go Thailand or China for fucking and sucking, FORGET IT. You are an addict.
This forum kinda helps feed this habit. When I read about a new girl somewhere and think the pictures are real or a bro tells me there's a new one somewhere, BOOM! I'm going to be thinking about her.
The worst thing you can do is have feelings for a provider. Once you cross that line you are dead meat. That I know for sure.
Don't try to fight it. Just try to control it and be reasonable with your expectations. No healthy male is going to stop thinking about a wet, sweet pussy. Especially with all the fucking tail walking around on the street these days!
Good luck HW!
MP Man.
So, have you quit quitting yet? I'ts been about an hour.
See you at the AMP's, dawg.Man, I jist woke up from a wet dream of a previous hot AMP girl giving me BBBJ and I couldn't cum. This is going to be hard!
I think this tread should be deleted by the admins it does not belong in this forum. Returning to this forum to post is only going to remind of what your missing. Its counter productive to what you want to achieve. IMHO.You are right but usasexguide to me isn't really entirely a source of "lets find out where the best and worse fucks are", I feel a sense of brotherhood community and this thread is really for me and for others (I highly doubt I am the 1st person on earth to consider this) to hopefully share experience and find help and advices.
Up to the admin really, I could have titled it different but I think it is a correct emotional title.
Quitting cold turkey is hard. Try cutting back or restrict yourself to high quality girls and the money will make you cut back. BTW, I am up there and you never stop thinking about fucking young 18 year olds. Its a man thing.So, does your sex drive doesn't decrease, only the ability of doing so is? That seems like an evil way to design us.
CatchSumWaves
08-01-14, 10:16
Maybe I'm weird but I don't think you have a problem.
I think it's more of a societal imposed belief that you have excepted about yourself and you have let it get the best of you.
Kind of like the guilt you are feeling from the sexual thoughts fuels more guilt and thoughts of the same until your spiraling out of control.
What if you just excepted your sexual nature and realized it is part of your everyday life.
Nothing to fret about just keep it in check like 1 to 2 times a day 2 hour sessions each?
If you start needing more and more well weekend monger it and go for 3 to 4 a day 2 hour sessions, problem solved LOL.
All joking a side I'm half serious, fully embrace the inner monger and let him out to play (within acceptable reason) LOL.
Catch.
Simply put, I QUIT. I literally have to confess that I am a sex addict. I mean, shit, I spend a lot of time in a day doing sexual stuff by myself, with others, and fantasizing.
It is really really sad. It is a disease, it is really no different than smoking nicotine, or gambling, or whatever that is sinful but fun as fuck.
There was this post that lead me to start this thread. I was thinking along the same lines, but I think it is best to discuss this openly.
What I really want to know is how many of you are similar to me? Like, you lose count how many time you have masturbated in a day, or lost count on how many ho's have you bang in a month? Or just pretty much every woman you see on the street that is over a 5 you think how it would be to hit it while driving, walking?
There is a nature side of things, but fuck man, I am being destroyed by these thoughts every 7 seconds.
It is simply a disease, I need to cure it, and I don't really fucking have time to go to a so called rehab and fucking pay many grand to talk to retarded groups of people who need to open up.
I try to do as many things as I can throughout the day, but once I have free time, man fuck, the junior is thinking and that just fucking make me lose control. It is entirely biologically fucked to fight this.
Just like nicotine, I have no idea how many times I need to kick this habit. I know old fucks that are 85 years old want to fuck 18 year olds. Is it game over for me? Is it pretty much human nature to try to fuck and procreate till you fucking die?
I don't know man, this is fucking depressing. I have no self control, I check usasexguide.info every day around midnight and hit with a freaking site that is either backing up and can't load shit, or it just said, ERROR.
What the fuck man, WHAT THE FUCK! I swear, I wish I have no money, and that way I will be starved sexually and maybe that will cure me. But fuck man, I have enough to do this every day and I wouldn't even notice it.
After awhile, I've already fucked every type of pussy, big, small, colored, not colored, fat, skinny, weirdos, flakers, smokers, drug addicts, you fucking name it.
So, why the fuck do I come back every time, to a fucking dirty ass place that literally is a door knob, everyone had a turn. Haha.
So this thread I hope will be a reminder that I FUCKING QUIT and see how long I can be fucking sober from this addiction.
H. W.
RubLover803
08-06-14, 10:32
Ok. All I can think about is my next massage.
I have a LTR with a freak in the bed that will do ANYTHING I want. BUT she doesn't really give a good massage.
Is it wrong that I keep searching BP for new massage?
I've never been to an escort for FS. Only massage.
So, does your sex drive doesn't decrease, only the ability of doing so is? That seems like an evil way to design us.You are not alone, brother. If I don't bust minimum one nut a day, I can't function. Fucking disease with the cure being the problem! Anyway, got to go look for my next victim (s) for the evening.
Well, its been 2 years since I kicked the habit (see posts 354 and 341). It does get easier with time as the mind changes.
One big change I see in how my mind works: in my horndog days, I used to be motivated by memories of the good times, when an encounter went spectacularly well. But they were actually rare, and usually not all that good. Nowadays I mostly remember the bad times -- the great majority -- the dreary encounters, the occasionally deranged or high girl, the bad smells, the ripoffs, the police encounters, etc, etc. Fortunately I was never busted, never harmed, and had only 3 or 4 STDs all curable. Whew!
And I would never judge anyone on here because I had "been there done that" for a long time.
I shudder at the thought of street prostitution. And feel no desire for a cold liaison on BP. The only real temptation now is the Sugar Daddy scenario, which looks easy to arrange with many web sites now catering to that. But I've managed to convince myself I can't afford it, and I remember the bad feelings I often had from the few Sugar Baby relationships I had some years ago.
Well, its been 2 years since I kicked the habit (see posts 354 and 341). It does get easier with time as the mind changes.
One big change I see in how my mind works: in my horndog days, I used to be motivated by memories of the good times, when an encounter went spectacularly well. But they were actually rare, and usually not all that good. Nowadays I mostly remember the bad times -- the great majority -- the dreary encounters, the occasionally deranged or high girl, the bad smells, the ripoffs, the police encounters, etc, etc. Fortunately I was never busted, never harmed, and had only 3 or 4 STDs all curable. Whew!
And I would never judge anyone on here because I had "been there done that" for a long time.
I shudder at the thought of street prostitution. And feel no desire for a cold liaison on BP. The only real temptation now is the Sugar Daddy scenario, which looks easy to arrange with many web sites now catering to that. But I've managed to convince myself I can't afford it, and I remember the bad feelings I often had from the few Sugar Baby relationships I had some years ago.Snake, with all due respect if you're really out of the hobby why are you trolling on these sites? That's like a crackhead just hanging around the crackhouse. See'Mon. Man.
Snake, with all due respect if you're really out of the hobby why are you trolling on these sites? That's like a crackhead just hanging around the crackhouse. See'Mon. Man.Actually I am out of the hobby and feel pretty good. Now, I am obviously anonymous here, so you never really know, do you? But at least I have been fairly consistent here the last few years.
I think this thread is an interesting topic and serves a useful purpose for some. For a small minority of forum members.
With all due respect, I don't think the comparison can be made to crack.
Actually I am out of the hobby and feel pretty good. Now, I am obviously anonymous here, so you never really know, do you? But at least I have been fairly consistent here the last few years.
I think this thread is an interesting topic and serves a useful purpose for some. For a small minority of forum members.
With all due respect, I don't think the comparison can be made to crack.I don't mean to be argumentative but I was curious about your thought process. I've considered quitting the hobby and have taken extended leaves of absence. I can only speak from my experience and conclude that whenever I log on and stay connected to these sites, forums, etc. It makes it more difficult to quit. If it's working for you, I'm glad. Good luck.
I don't mean to be argumentative but I was curious about your thought process. I've considered quitting the hobby and have taken extended leaves of absence. I can only speak from my experience and conclude that whenever I log on and stay connected to these sites, forums, etc. It makes it more difficult to quit. If it's working for you, I'm glad. Good luck.Fair enough, and we're cool. I see this tiny corner of the USASG as possibly helpful and therapeutic to some, though possibly annoying and judgemental to most, so I try to be cautious and not seem to proselytize.
Looking back, I see the process of quitting took about 10 years, with a gradual mitigation of risk and a reduction of involvement, interspersed with relapses. I never really saw this forum as a cause for relapse. Porn was a much bigger influence, though I have grown weary of it now.
The tipping point was 2 years ago due to a convergence of factors, namely dissatisfaction, becoming "mature" (older and calmer, though still functional), and the onset of poverty caused by several issues and priorities unrelated to the hobby. If I won the lottery I might have a relapse and find a nice sugar baby, but the odds are that I am done. The more I am away from it, though, the more pride and resolve I feel, as it is a triumph of the mind.
DarkSideOfMe
11-01-14, 11:54
After many years in this game and only a short time on USA pages, (2 years) (188 post), I must ask, am I a addict? I have been married to a great woman (40 years) who I love, but can't complete a rewarding sex act with any longer (no cumming, oral, hand)! Spend more time on USA, then most. Have to much invested (money, kids, grand kids,) them most, to just leave, so I look to pick up the pieces, from the outside world. (BP, craigs list, USA post). When ever I hookup, its like a high that can't be explained, for days, weeks, dreaming of the girls I just fucked, and wanting more (2,3 a day) when I'm playing this sick dangerous game. I work hard and have the $$s to spend, so I can DREAM as much as I want. I'm not hurting anyone? Right? I don't know how much longer I can play, before it all falls down on me, and I lose ever thing?? Stay safe DRKSD.
After many years in this game and only a short time on USA pages, (2 years) (188 post), I must ask, am I a addict? I have been married to a great woman (40 years) who I love, but can't complete a rewarding sex act with any longer (no cumming, oral, hand)! Spend more time on USA, then most. Have to much invested (money, kids, grand kids,) them most, to just leave, so I look to pick up the pieces, from the outside world. (BP, craigs list, USA post). When ever I hookup, its like a high that can't be explained, for days, weeks, dreaming of the girls I just fucked, and wanting more (2,3 a day) when I'm playing this sick dangerous game. I work hard and have the $$s to spend, so I can DREAM as much as I want. I'm not hurting anyone? Right? I don't know how much longer I can play, before it all falls down on me, and I lose ever thing?? Stay safe DRKSD.I'm not sure if you're an addict. The answer may be that you're simply a man. I believe most of us are wired like you've described and the minority isn't. I don't think it's natural to fuck the same woman for 40 years and expect to get that same high from fucking a 20 or 30 something hottie you've just met. IMHO, as long as you're not hurting your family and their well being, you're not doing anything wrong. On the contrary, you're a true American helping the economy. It sounds like you have a lot to lose, so be extra careful. Unfortunately, society doesn't find this behavior acceptable. I wish we would just legalize prostitution, regulate it, tax it, make providers get tested, and accept it because it's never going to disappear.
Fair enough, and we're cool. I see this tiny corner of the USASG as possibly helpful and therapeutic to some, though possibly annoying and judgemental to most, so I try to be cautious and not seem to proselytize.
Looking back, I see the process of quitting took about 10 years, with a gradual mitigation of risk and a reduction of involvement, interspersed with relapses. I never really saw this forum as a cause for relapse. Porn was a much bigger influence, though I have grown weary of it now.
The tipping point was 2 years ago due to a convergence of factors, namely dissatisfaction, becoming "mature" (older and calmer, though still functional), and the onset of poverty caused by several issues and priorities unrelated to the hobby. If I won the lottery I might have a relapse and find a nice sugar baby, but the odds are that I am done. The more I am away from it, though, the more pride and resolve I feel, as it is a triumph of the mind.I'm kind of jealous of your triumph. I can't do it right now. When you find that special gem and spend a few hours with her, Drkplace is right about chasing that first high. I'm at peace and happy at that moment. I guess that's what life is about. Grabbing small moments of happiness. I treat providers good and with respect so I don't feel guilty about it. I'm sorry when I come across a provider who obviously doesn't want to be there and has substance abuse problems. That's the dark side. But I've found with the higher end providers it's more fun but obviously more expensive.
After many years in this game and only a short time on USA pages, (2 years) (188 post), I must ask, am I a addict? I have been married to a great woman (40 years) who I love, but can't complete a rewarding sex act with any longer (no cumming, oral, hand)! Spend more time on USA, then most. Have to much invested (money, kids, grand kids,) them most, to just leave, so I look to pick up the pieces, from the outside world. (BP, craigs list, USA post). When ever I hookup, its like a high that can't be explained, for days, weeks, dreaming of the girls I just fucked, and wanting more (2,3 a day) when I'm playing this sick dangerous game. I work hard and have the $$s to spend, so I can DREAM as much as I want. I'm not hurting anyone? Right? I don't know how much longer I can play, before it all falls down on me, and I lose ever thing?? Stay safe DRKSD.By the way, how are you still a regular member and not senior after 188 posts and 2 years?
TwistedBrother
11-23-14, 18:56
Count me among those who wants to "quit," who's tried to quit, who's done sex addiction recovery work (back in the 90's and early 00's), who still wants the high of a score, who's had marriage wreckage, etc. I've been active on here for many years, with more than 2,500 posts since 2002, which was a year before my 2nd marriage ended.
I'm engaged to and have been with #3 for a few years, but save for the past 3 weeks have still been seeing anywhere from 1 to 5 girls a month. I've never done so much, so secretly, and not been discovered. My compulsion for porn is as bad. It's periodic for me, but never far from my mind. Every drive in my car is wandering eyes, my monger mind is always going.
My story is so long I hardly know where to begin. I'm wanting to change my private legacy but still find the high so hard to resist.
I just took the sexual addiction test. Most addicts are an average 6. I scored a 11. I'll point out that I was sexually abused by my babysitter and I haven't been the same since I guess. I'll have sex with multiple women because I'll get bored with the same one. Sorry if I am rambling guys, but this is a surprise to me.
Try the test.
https://www.recoveryzone.com/tests/lib/UCCASSv1.8.1/survey.php?sid=53
I just took the sexual addiction test. Most addicts are an average 6. I scored a 11. I'll point out that I was sexually abused by my babysitter and I haven't been the same since I guess. I'll have sex with multiple women because I'll get bored with the same one. Sorry if I am rambling guys, but this is a surprise to me.
Try the test.
https://www.recoveryzone.com/tests/lib/UCCASSv1.8.1/survey.php?sid=53Fuck, I scored an 18.
Count me among those who wants to "quit," who's tried to quit, who's done sex addiction recovery work (back in the 90's and early 00's), who still wants the high of a score, who's had marriage wreckage, etc. I've been active on here for many years, with more than 2,500 posts since 2002, which was a year before my 2nd marriage ended.
I'm engaged to and have been with #3 for a few years, but save for the past 3 weeks have still been seeing anywhere from 1 to 5 girls a month. I've never done so much, so secretly, and not been discovered. My compulsion for porn is as bad. It's periodic for me, but never far from my mind. Every drive in my car is wandering eyes, my monger mind is always going.
My story is so long I hardly know where to begin. I'm wanting to change my private legacy but still find the high so hard to resist.I get it. You're not alone. My mind is always on pussy hunt mode. It's very, very bad. Tough to change behavior. Even when I think there's a chance, I get bored and fall into the same routine.
Member #5317
12-05-14, 11:01
I get it. You're not alone. My mind is always on pussy hunt mode. It's very, very bad. Tough to change behavior. Even when I think there's a chance, I get bored and fall into the same routine.OK So I don't have many posts, mainly due to the sheer depravity of my dreams with SPs which are much too embarrasing to disclose. I scored an 18 as well LOL. I have spent countless hours and $ on therapists, SLAA, the whole enchilada, all to no avail. Sooner or later, whatever my bottom looks like, just like a druggie, when and if I hit it maybe I will stop out of utter necessity. Until then, for a few or many of us this addiction will not go away and I simply get to wait until my body parts won't function and maybe then it won't matter so much IMHO.
OK guys, I was bored and was reading some of the posts here. They forced me to comment so here goes.
First off the statistics currently in on people having sex outside of marriage are like this.
54% of men and like 48% of women now do it. So why are you guys beating yourselves up? Sex is the second most powerful drive in the world, right after hunger. Everything else is just an illusion to allow us to get more of one of the two above. Our society in particular has been trying to emasculate men for decades now. Why? Well men who are highly sexual also tend to have higher testosterone levels which relate also to not being able to be led around easily. Experiments were done by both the German's and the Japanese during the second WW on what types and amounts of foods, would make the prisoners more compliant. We did the same thing only using chemicals and we also did, and are, doing it to our own population.
Have you ever looked at the number of wives / mistresses that conquers took when they conquered a village in the olden days? Sex has been, was, and IS the reward for being a successful male in ANY society. Look at athletes, how many women did Wilt Chamberlain sleep with. His reckoning was 20,000 during his career. WTF? Anyways this is just my rambling. Whether or not you have an addiction is strictly up to you. YOU know if you have one. Some intellectiod does not have to give you a test to determine it. The difference was that in the past, men were rewarded for being a man, now we are punishing them for being men. So with that said, It is all about values, You have to determine which will bring you the better rewards in life. Having a family, and remember that it may be your wife who leaves YOU for some other guy. 50/50 chance, or you doing what is biologically programmed into each of us. Your call. Oh and you guys worried about not being madly attracted to your wife of 40 some years. Do you ever see honey bees looking to pollinate an old fruit tree that has no nectar? Just saying. We are biologically programmed guys. Oh and a FYI. Why do women quit looking at men in their mid 40's. Same reason. We no longer exude the scent of a young virile male. Sometimes we can make up for it for awhile with money and success that shows how virile we are. But in the end, that sweet thing will be hitting on the pool boy EVERY time.
This is of course all IMHO and feel free to comment, contradict, or PM me if you would like.
G2.
I think much of the desire to quit is because it's affecting productive aspects of our lives. I reflected and accepted that I enjoy the hobby. But when I'd rather be trolling the city at night for the second or third girl rather than preparing for an early morning presentation. Well that's a problem. I'd also note the sheer amount of resources consumed.
Yes, I enjoy the hobby. But I still have to find a way to bring it under my control. Even if that means cutting it out.
OK guys, I was bored and was reading some of the posts here. They forced me to comment so here goes.
First off the statistics currently in on people having sex outside of marriage are like this.
54% of men and like 48% of women now do it. So why are you guys beating yourselves up? Sex is the second most powerful drive in the world, right after hunger. Everything else is just an illusion to allow us to get more of one of the two above. Our society in particular has been trying to emasculate men for decades now. Why? Well men who are highly sexual also tend to have higher testosterone levels which relate also to not being able to be led around easily. Experiments were done by both the German's and the Japanese during the second WW on what types and amounts of foods, would make the prisoners more compliant. We did the same thing only using chemicals and we also did, and are, doing it to our own population.
Have you ever looked at the number of wives / mistresses that conquers took when they conquered a village in the olden days? Sex has been, was, and IS the reward for being a successful male in ANY society. Look at athletes, how many women did Wilt Chamberlain sleep with. His reckoning was 20,000 during his career. WTF? Anyways this is just my rambling. Whether or not you have an addiction is strictly up to you. YOU know if you have one. Some intellectiod does not have to give you a test to determine it. The difference was that in the past, men were rewarded for being a man, now we are punishing them for being men. So with that said, It is all about values, You have to determine which will bring you the better rewards in life. Having a family, and remember that it may be your wife who leaves YOU for some other guy. 50/50 chance, or you doing what is biologically programmed into each of us. Your call. Oh and you guys worried about not being madly attracted to your wife of 40 some years. Do you ever see honey bees looking to pollinate an old fruit tree that has no nectar? Just saying. We are biologically programmed guys. Oh and a FYI. Why do women quit looking at men in their mid 40's. Same reason. We no longer exude the scent of a young virile male. Sometimes we can make up for it for awhile with money and success that shows how virile we are. But in the end, that sweet thing will be hitting on the pool boy EVERY time.
This is of course all IMHO and feel free to comment, contradict, or PM me if you would like.
G2.
HollywoodGuy
12-17-14, 20:55
I just took the sexual addiction test. Most addicts are an average 6. I scored a 11. I'll point out that I was sexually abused by my babysitter and I haven't been the same since I guess. I'll have sex with multiple women because I'll get bored with the same one. Sorry if I am rambling guys, but this is a surprise to me.
Try the test.
https://www.recoveryzone.com/tests/lib/UCCASSv1.8.1/survey.php?sid=53I scored an 8. But a lot of those questions ask if you are feeling guilty about your behavior (which raises the score). I only wish I was getting more pussy and I don't really care who knows that. LOL.
LexintonLuther
12-17-14, 21:31
After reading all the personal insight in this forum it makes you take a step back and look at what you're doing and how you're living. I enjoy the hobby and it is a big part of my life and by choice. I am in my mid 40's, no kids, no wife or ex wives and working a job that I love and very well compensated for and allows me to enjoy a life of luxury and travel. My money is not shared with any one and I choose to do as I will. The hobby works for me and I get what I want t and the providers get what they want. I get to walk away without any drama or misunderstandings. I choose the girls I spend my time with and not the other way around. Sure I would love to be married one day and have the house the kids and the dog but for now it not in the cards yet. I dated so many women that I got tired of the games, sure I've spent thousands on my hobby but try taking a couple different women out a few night s a week and see how much you spend and at the end of the night you leave alone and have to go take the cold shower. Not for me and I treat some of the providers very well and more than a few occasions have taken them on trips with me even business dinners to help close a deal when a special client needs that distraction of a beautiful woman and at the end of the night without a doubt I will be getting some with no questions or complaints.
I grew tired of so many women out there looking for that wealthy man for a marriage but don't bring anything to the table but maybe good looks and a hot body and those looks will not last forever. So for now I choose this life style. Of my 800 plus reports, I would guess at least 600-650 are about the women I have spent time with and it's not bragging it's just a fact of my life that I live and can afford to live without hurting anyone. So am I sexual addicted? You bet your ass I am.
Lex.
TwistedBrother
12-21-14, 21:44
Regarding my addiction, I really didn't regard it as a problem as much when I was "alone." At that point, the concerns were whether I spent too much money, took time away from work or made overly risky choices. Sometimes I did and sometimes I didn't. But unfortunately, I also want the best of both worlds. So now I've been with a gal for 5 years and plan to marry her, which will be my 3rd (and would have married a few years ago with her if not for a particular financial consideration about her kids in college). I've been fortunate not to get caught or have my hobby adversely affect our relationship as much as it did with the first two. But after some particularly active stretches and some other types of consequences and a lot consideration, I've stopped -- at least for now. It's been about 7 weeks now "sober." Been a few times I really wanted to and almost did, but so far no.
Member #6005
12-22-14, 09:25
Not sure whether to be proud or embarrassed, perhaps both?
357325
DarkSideOfMe
12-22-14, 10:55
I don't believe I have a problem, why do I feel like I have hit a line of coke, after, before, doing the hunt??I have not hurt anyone. Drksd.
DarkSideOfMe
12-22-14, 11:06
By the way, how are you still a regular member and not senior after 188 posts and 2 years?I have been on this board for a only short time and you are the only one to ask that question!! I am a bad, bad, boy that's way, just ask, A1,A2, Drksd.
Head First
12-22-14, 13:31
Not sure whether to be proud or embarrassed, perhaps both?
357325The good news is in this hobby of ours. That's A Perfect Score!
The bad news is in real life. Thats A Perfect Fail. !
I scored a 17.
On a side note while out shopping over the weekend I picked up a book on Sexual Addiction. But instead of reading it I set up a late night massage last night with a young new Asian doing in calls at her condo. Way more fun than reading.
Welcome To The Jungle where I'm afraid "You can check out but you may never leave. ".
After reading all the personal insight in this forum it makes you take a step back and look at what you're doing and how you're living. I enjoy the hobby and it is a big part of my life and by choice. I am in my mid 40's, no kids, no wife or ex wives and working a job that I love and very well compensated for and allows me to enjoy a life of luxury and travel. My money is not shared with any one and I choose to do as I will. The hobby works for me and I get what I want t and the providers get what they want. I get to walk away without any drama or misunderstandings. I choose the girls I spend my time with and not the other way around. Sure I would love to be married one day and have the house the kids and the dog but for now it not in the cards yet. I dated so many women that I got tired of the games, sure I've spent thousands on my hobby but try taking a couple different women out a few night s a week and see how much you spend and at the end of the night you leave alone and have to go take the cold shower. Not for me and I treat some of the providers very well and more than a few occasions have taken them on trips with me even business dinners to help close a deal when a special client needs that distraction of a beautiful woman and at the end of the night without a doubt I will be getting some with no questions or complaints.
I grew tired of so many women out there looking for that wealthy man for a marriage but don't bring anything to the table but maybe good looks and a hot body and those looks will not last forever. So for now I choose this life style. Of my 800 plus reports, I would guess at least 600-650 are about the women I have spent time with and it's not bragging it's just a fact of my life that I live and can afford to live without hurting anyone. So am I sexual addicted? You bet your ass I am.
Lex.Oh my gosh, I feel even worse now. After reading many of your posts throughout the years, I would have sworn you were with a lot more providers. My best guess is I'm over 5,000 different providers and I'm also in my mid 40's. Am I an addict? Fuck yeah. I'm about to go get my second piece of ass of the day on Christmas eve.
Nash Manner
01-22-15, 06:38
I am very happy to see like minded people. I hope this hobby will be accepted by all one day as this is the only secret I have. Everything else in my life is by the book but I am single and hate all of the drama and hard work of a relationship especially when she gets older and fatter. I like to stay in shape to I prefer younger energetic happy women with great bodies. Plus it is great when I work hard, make a lot of money that I get to keep, go out and meet a hot woman for a great time, then go back home and go to sleep without any of the problems. I scored a 13 on that test by the way.
DarkSideOfMe
01-22-15, 10:44
Am I still an addict? It was 7 weeks without porn, mastb, sex! Do I like the feeling I have now? Fuck no, no real sex drive, no sense of the feeling of a women touch. This is my only vice and I hide it very well, I thought I could leave it but I can't, I have decided to be an addict for now, I'm in my 60's and happy with it and the feeling it leaves me with, need, want more pussy now, then when I was in my 20's! I only scored a" 7-8", still may have hope. . I'm going to LV. This weekend, going, to FUCK as many as I can, take it for the team!! I'm I a addict? Fuck yaa. Drksd.
LexintonLuther
01-22-15, 11:22
Oh my gosh, I feel even worse now. After reading many of your posts throughout the years, I would have sworn you were with a lot more providers. My best guess is I'm over 5,000 different providers and I'm also in my mid 40's. Am I an addict? Fuck yeah. I'm about to go get my second piece of ass of the day on Christmas eve.The post count that I mentioned is only that I now write reviews of the women I currently have seen in the time frame that I have joined this review board, A totally of women I have seen privately (girl friends, One night stands, etc) I don't know that number. The professionals I have encounter in my adult life I would be afraid to guess that total number because I have been in this hobby for well over 20 years and travelled the world while doing so. By no means am I " "Wilt Chamberlain" or make his claims of fucking over 20,000 women but I will say we could sit for a few hours and exchange stories..lol
Lex.
Am I still an addict? It was 7 weeks without porn, mastb, sex! Do I like the feeling I have now? Fuck no, no real sex drive, no sense of the feeling of a women touch. This is my only vice and I hide it very well, I thought I could leave it but I can't, I have decided to be an addict for now, I'm in my 60's and happy with it and the feeling it leaves me with, need, want more pussy now, then when I was in my 20's! I only scored a" 7-8", still may have hope. . I'm going to LV. This weekend, going, to FUCK as many as I can, take it for the team!! I'm I a addict? Fuck yaa. Drksd.Welcome back to jungle. Once you've entered deep, it's hard to escape. Happy hunting in LV. Please do share any stories as the only thing I enjoy nearly as much as experiencing myself is reading about others' adventures.
The post count that I mentioned is only that I now write reviews of the women I currently have seen in the time frame that I have joined this review board, A totally of women I have seen privately (girl friends, One night stands, etc) I don't know that number. The professionals I have encounter in my adult life I would be afraid to guess that total number because I have been in this hobby for well over 20 years and travelled the world while doing so. By no means am I " "Wilt Chamberlain" or make his claims of fucking over 20,000 women but I will say we could sit for a few hours and exchange stories..lol
Lex.I certainly enjoy reading your posts. You are a great writer and have come to enjoy and actually look forward to reading your posts. Happy hunting and be safe!
JustHereNow
03-11-15, 20:45
I'm really at the point that I want to find a new vice. I love seeing girls, I love having sex and love the feel of a women against my body. Iv been a single guy for quite a few years so this is a good way to get laid and not have a commitment. The last two girls iv seen, one I have not written a review by request has been great, especially the one I seen today, her attitude and skill was near the top.
Problem is I am starting to find it affecting my everyday life. I obviously am not made of money but I am spending it like I have it to burn. I'm a single parent, I need to provide for my children. I make a good living, but I can say I just looked at my bank records for the past year and I have spent well over $5000 in the this hobby and I usually only go for the $60 short stay or AMP's. That obviously is not pocket change and its money I need to save somehow.
As stated, today I seen an awesome provider but its been requested that a review not be written. But I am sitting here thinking "man, she was worth every penny" but then I realize that I have been into my savings which I am saving for a vacation to Vegas. Everything for the trip is paid for, but if I keep dipping into the funds, I will get to Vegas and be broke and then what would be the point. Actually Vegas got me into this hobby, its where I seen my first provider.
My bills are paid, my kids are fed and we all have clothes on our backs and a nice house in a great neighborhood. I have a good job but this vice of mine is starting to get to be financially to much and out of control. I come home and kick myself when I do this because I am spending money, getting laid but when I look at my bank account I have nothing to show for it. The only positive is I get laid when I want with no obligations to know their name or buy them breakfast in the morning.
I need another outlet that is not so costly. I think I will get back into photography, maybe start working out, something to occupy my time so that I am not getting the urge to troll BP or CL or hit up an AMP. Its going to take willpower and I am not sure I can do it, I know the girl I seen today has me wanting to come back again and again but at $100 a pop, that can kill any savings I have.
I know this site is about making reports but I needed an outlet to vent. Neither my friends nor my Co-workers know I participate in the hobby and I just have no other outlet to vent I guess. First thing I need to do is quit coming to this board but damn its fun reading the stories.
I cannot say I know what my future is going to hold, but I need to find a way to not spend so much money on these girls. I just did the math for what I have spent since Jan 1 and if I keep going, I will spend 15 k this year, so between what I spent from last year and on track for this year, I could pay off my car loan.
I know, you guys are thinking there is no way I am spending that much, but I do not report all the time. I try to keep some on the DL, some of these are Sugar Babies and those are really draining on the account.
Member #5153
03-11-15, 23:25
I'm really at the point that I want to find a new vice. I love seeing girls, I love having sex and love the feel of a women against my body. Iv been a single guy for quite a few years so this is a good way to get laid and not have a commitment. The last two girls iv seen, one I have not written a review by request has been great, especially the one I seen today, her attitude and skill was near the top.
Problem is I am starting to find it affecting my everyday life. I obviously am not made of money but I am spending it like I have it to burn. I'm a single parent, I need to provide for my children. I make a good living, but I can say I just looked at my bank records for the past year and I have spent well over $5000 in the this hobby and I usually only go for the $60 short stay or AMP's. That obviously is not pocket change and its money I need to save somehow.
As stated, today I seen an awesome provider but its been requested that a review not be written. But I am sitting here thinking "man, she was worth every penny" but then I realize that I have been into my savings which I am saving for a vacation to Vegas. Everything for the trip is paid for, but if I keep dipping into the funds, I will get to Vegas and be broke and then what would be the point. Actually Vegas got me into this hobby, its where I seen my first provider.
My bills are paid, my kids are fed and we all have clothes on our backs and a nice house in a great neighborhood. I have a good job but this vice of mine is starting to get to be financially to much and out of control. I come home and kick myself when I do this because I am spending money, getting laid but when I look at my bank account I have nothing to show for it. The only positive is I get laid when I want with no obligations to know their name or buy them breakfast in the morning.
I need another outlet that is not so costly. I think I will get back into photography, maybe start working out, something to occupy my time so that I am not getting the urge to troll BP or CL or hit up an AMP. Its going to take willpower and I am not sure I can do it, I know the girl I seen today has me wanting to come back again and again but at $100 a pop, that can kill any savings I have.
I know this site is about making reports but I needed an outlet to vent. Neither my friends nor my Co-workers know I participate in the hobby and I just have no other outlet to vent I guess. First thing I need to do is quit coming to this board but damn its fun reading the stories.
I cannot say I know what my future is going to hold, but I need to find a way to not spend so much money on these girls. I just did the math for what I have spent since Jan 1 and if I keep going, I will spend 15 k this year, so between what I spent from last year and on track for this year, I could pay off my car loan.
I know, you guys are thinking there is no way I am spending that much, but I do not report all the time. I try to keep some on the DL, some of these are Sugar Babies and those are really draining on the account.Dude I feel exactly the same way you do. It's not easy to quit this shit, I have tried several times and I blow through my money as well. I try to tell myself that I'll cut back and only see 1 girl a month but that's impossible for me. I think part of it is the thrill of trying to find that gem because honestly most of these girls suck. Stay strong man and good luck.
I'm really at the point that I want to find a new vice. I love seeing girls, I love having sex and love the feel of a women against my body. Iv been a single guy for quite a few years so this is a good way to get laid and not have a commitment. The last two girls iv seen, one I have not written a review by request has been great, especially the one I seen today, her attitude and skill was near the top.
Problem is I am starting to find it affecting my everyday life. I obviously am not made of money but I am spending it like I have it to burn. I'm a single parent, I need to provide for my children. I make a good living, but I can say I just looked at my bank records for the past year and I have spent well over $5000 in the this hobby and I usually only go for the $60 short stay or AMP's. That obviously is not pocket change and its money I need to save somehow.
As stated, today I seen an awesome provider but its been requested that a review not be written. But I am sitting here thinking "man, she was worth every penny" but then I realize that I have been into my savings which I am saving for a vacation to Vegas. Everything for the trip is paid for, but if I keep dipping into the funds, I will get to Vegas and be broke and then what would be the point. Actually Vegas got me into this hobby, its where I seen my first provider.
My bills are paid, my kids are fed and we all have clothes on our backs and a nice house in a great neighborhood. I have a good job but this vice of mine is starting to get to be financially to much and out of control. I come home and kick myself when I do this because I am spending money, getting laid but when I look at my bank account I have nothing to show for it. The only positive is I get laid when I want with no obligations to know their name or buy them breakfast in the morning.
I need another outlet that is not so costly. I think I will get back into photography, maybe start working out, something to occupy my time so that I am not getting the urge to troll BP or CL or hit up an AMP. Its going to take willpower and I am not sure I can do it, I know the girl I seen today has me wanting to come back again and again but at $100 a pop, that can kill any savings I have.
I know this site is about making reports but I needed an outlet to vent. Neither my friends nor my Co-workers know I participate in the hobby and I just have no other outlet to vent I guess. First thing I need to do is quit coming to this board but damn its fun reading the stories.
I cannot say I know what my future is going to hold, but I need to find a way to not spend so much money on these girls. I just did the math for what I have spent since Jan 1 and if I keep going, I will spend 15 k this year, so between what I spent from last year and on track for this year, I could pay off my car loan.
I know, you guys are thinking there is no way I am spending that much, but I do not report all the time. I try to keep some on the DL, some of these are Sugar Babies and those are really draining on the account.I know the feeling. Spent more than 5 k. Its call a sexual addiction which many of us here have.
GhostRider50
03-12-15, 09:18
I know the feeling. Spent more than 5 k. Its call a sexual addiction which many of us here have.I don't know about anyone else, but I am addicted to sex have spent more than 5 k.
Over the years, some good investments, some rip offs, and some average. I have found that a good massage he provider, like charlee, or dezi, etc is one outlet, but expensive. I now do mostly SW and no sex, just bbbjs, and fiv. I can see a couple of providers for. 5-. 6 every couple of weeks and I have fed the monster. I am widowed, and do not want a fkin nagging ***** in my house, so dating civilians is not an option, cause, ALL of them want a relationship. You as well as the rest of us have options. Counseling, support groups, cause cold turkey does NOT work for most. Or figure out a way to get cheaper service less often. IMHO good luck man!
GR.
JustHereNow
03-12-15, 09:46
Yes it is an addiction. For me its not the thrill of the hunt because 99.5% of the time I only see girls that have been reviewed by others on this site that I trust. For the SB situation its a bit more tricky because these girls do not have reviews and I am taking a chance. I have only had one bad experience with it an that was with a 19 year old girl who wold go on dates and stuff but never would go farther, she just wanted the gifts, food and a loan here and there which ended up being gifts because she was not paying it back.
The joy in this is getting off when I want, how I want and not doing it myself. I NEVER bring a girl back to my place and I do not want a relationship so this is what I do.
Iv decided and I hope I can have the will power to do it, not to see a girl weather BP, AMP or SB until after my Vegas trip in June and even then I am hoping to have kicked the habit. Its going to be hard (no pun intended) but if I want to have a vacation I will enjoy, I NEED to save this money.
I know the feeling. Spent more than 5 k. Its call a sexual addiction which many of us here have.There are good groups out there for those that struggle with it. Pm me for more info.
Just here now. I'm 65 been doing it 25 yrs I'm sure, strip clubs. AMPs, craigslist and now BP, well I got caught this past in a sting, that will fxxing wake you up, oh I'm horny but god I got to be careful now, can't ever trust a BP, if its not a cop could be an informant, she even said she wasn't a cop, 3 thugs throw me on bed handcuff's, 24 hrs in slammer, only sun in this cloud I was out of town, and it hasn't got to sig other. Addiction can kill us, I think the AMP is the safest way to go they have the cameras and always lock the doors. Good luck be careful guys.
FirstAndGoal
04-13-15, 17:46
Ok. Is it an addiction?
My father is a Psychologist. I am a former cocaine addict (beat that by myself). This shit we do is more addictive that any cocaine problem. I speak from experience. All of the exact Dopamine transfers, mood alterations, triggers, adrenaline rush, high intensity exhilarating emotions are duplicated in hobbying as are in drug addiction. I have experienced them (and continue to) while plying my craft. Hell even when the email flag pops up on a return request for a appointment gives me a major head rush (you know what I mean!
Yep. If your on this forum you are in an addiction! How is this. I have been spending about $2400 a month on this hobby. I love it. But pray for me.
3-Minute Passion
05-22-15, 11:18
Oh my gosh, I feel even worse now. After reading many of your posts throughout the years, I would have sworn you were with a lot more providers. My best guess is I'm over 5,000 different providers and I'm also in my mid 40's. Am I an addict? Fuck yeah. I'm about to go get my second piece of ass of the day on Christmas eve.And I thought I had it bad. Wow! Those are staggering numbers. We'll have to talk sometime.
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Member #5016
07-01-15, 22:30
https://www.yahoo.com/health/what-its-like-to-be-a-sex-addict-122891152142.html
Guys,
Ever go at it heavy for a while,. Lap dances, girl friend, wife, self stimulation etc. . and notice people kind of staring at your face the next day or two? I'm surprised this is not written or spoken about more often. Seems that the married women are the most quick to notice. What is it? A fatigue that causes the mouth to frown a bit? Or just an overall look of tiredness? I'm sure I'm not imagining it. Even a friend of mine who works at a fire dept. Can't get by the ribbing of the guys the next day after some good sex with his wife! The Guys know! Any supplements that would help with this or just a good week or two of good sleep and veggies? I'm surprised this is not mentioned more often. Any comments?
TwistedBrother
08-09-15, 19:12
It ain't over til it's over; hopefully it finally is beginning tomorrow. Joining SA group and probably others in my area. Got married recently and want to honor that.
I'm fighting against 20-plus years of acting out and 2,500 posts on here over 13 years. But do I want to die like this? Rather not. Trying to rally in the 4th quarter. God help me.
Get in touch via PM if you're interested.
Member #4874
08-28-15, 04:29
I went overseas when I joined the military. I was young and horny. I couldn't find any regular girls to date, even though I really tried. I went to the clubs with my friends and I couldn't get a single date. A friend told me about the red light district and for $20 (this was about 25 years ago) you could have your pick of the girls in the sex hotels. I did that for 2 years but when I got back stateside, I had many girlfriends and didn't have to pay for it. A few years later, I was working with a travelling construction crew and those guys showed me the ins and outs of trolling the streets and finding girls. I trolled whenever I didn't have a girlfriend. I was always faithful to my girlfriends over the years.
However, when I reached 34, my fiancee started using sex as a weapon against me and I found myself going back to the streets. I have been trolling the streets ever since. We broke up about 4 years ago and ever since then I have reached new lows in this hobby. I went from craigslist, to street girls, to homeless girls to approaching any girl that might be walking by. I spent a lot of time on the West coast and I was cruising and walking the streets, talking to girls and getting them to put out. I hung around methadone clinics, libraries, bars. Anywhere I thought I could find a girl who was down on her luck, homeless or addicted. I had about a 75% success rate in getting BBBJ or FS. There was even a girl in my apartment complex who had huge tits (what I was into at the time) and I wore her down and got her to blow me for. 20 . I'm not proud of those things, but I did become very adept at talking these girls into sex. Sometimes it only cost me a cheeseburger or a pack of cigarettes.
Now, I pretty much troll the streets every day and my new thing is crack / meth girls. I like the super skinny look and I try to find girls with no teeth or false teeth for a better BBBJ. Sick right? I don't mean any harm to these girls and I feel bad for them, but I have to get my fix, which is usually a BBBJ. I've been single for a few years now and I've become obese, I'm severely balding, have erection problems and everything is not looking too good for me. I tried talking to a counselor about it, but they really didn't seem interested in helping me. One counselor even told me it was normal. Normal? Driving the streets at 2 am looking for crack girls is normal?
I don't know what to do anymore. The few legitimate dates I have been on, I didn't know how to even treat a normal girl anymore because I'm so used to dealing with street girls. Everytime I put my mind to it, to quit, I will just happen to see a homeless chick walking by and I feel like if I don't approach her, that I'm somehow losing out.
I'm pushing 50 and have always considered myself a Christian. I know this is wrong, morally and ethically (my opinion) and I think I should be trying to find a nice, normal girlfriend. Which has been very hard because of my obesity. On the other hand, I'm making real good money now and can afford to travel. I keep thinking about a trip to Thailand or other parts of the world, just to monger. I thought, maybe that is how I should be living my life, having sex with many random girls.
Thanks for reading, just wanted to share.
Knucklebuck
08-30-15, 01:38
...Everytime I put my mind to it, to quit, I will just happen to see a homeless chick walking by and I feel like if I don't approach her, that I'm somehow losing out.I know EXACTLY how you feel brother. It feels like an unrelenting compulsion.
Dash Belli
09-13-15, 18:18
Dr. Drew interviews a Sex Addict who was able to recover. There's hope for us all:
http://podbay.fm/show/592284993/e/1367822657?autostart=1
AdventureKing
10-29-15, 22:39
I didn't know USASG had this thread regarding sex addiction.
For me, I could say that I like mongering.
However, in my case, it's just hard, very hard, for me to find a decent girlfriend, let alone, be in a non-platonic relationship.
So yes, I have been in some relationships. But none of them included sex. Boring. I also broke up with my ex GF five months ago, so hence, I am back to mongering.
Trying my best to stay away from this, but when loneliness and horniness creeps in, it's very difficult for me to withstand the temptation. =).
VegaMan924
10-31-15, 13:36
5 k,15 k, mere amateurs, shit I bet I'm over 30 k LOL.
TipsTipsTips
11-26-15, 23:38
So I am thinking I need some help I spend about 500 a month on the hobby why I have a wife and a young daughter. Tonight I went to a strip club and got head for 80 but just felt extremely bad on the drive back as I left thanksgiving with family to get a quick nut. In the past year I have probably spent 8 k in the hobby while I make around 38 k. If someone can link me up with a SA group in Louisville please send a PM.
Slayer2012
12-25-15, 18:24
So I am thinking I need some help I spend about 500 a month on the hobby why I have a wife and a young daughter. Tonight I went to a strip club and got head for 80 but just felt extremely bad on the drive back as I left thanksgiving with family to get a quick nut. In the past year I have probably spent 8 k in the hobby while I make around 38 k. If someone can link me up with a SA group in Louisville please send a PM.You have a wife you can chill with. Maybe see if she'll go to a swinger joint so you don't have to pay for working girls no more. It's a pain to stop but it can be done, just replace it with other activities.
Hey, that s*cks, it really sucks! Sorry to learn about that "loss!" These girls are irritating at times and then they pull this garbage! Jeez. I've had that happen to me before and it stinks. What makes it worse is it seems so obvious, er, except when one is in the middle of it!
But I give you props for posting the bad experience and warning to others! Very few would do that, instead prefering to forgot the whole thing and wander off. So kudos for the report!
Don't quit over a bad incident. Just learn from it a go on! You'll be a better player in the future.
In fact, had a girl recently try to pull something like this on me and that caused me to create Rule #23!
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?13919-My-Suggestions.-Rules-For-BackPage&p=2740120&viewfull=1#post2740120 I'm not ending my mongering career because of being ripped off, anyone that has done this for any length of time has probably gotten ripped off at some point or another, I actually chalk it up as part of the cost of doing business. My decision to call it quits has been a long time in coming, it's time for me. The main reason for my retirement is I recognize I have developed a serious addiction which has been intruding into all aspects of my life for some time now. All I think about these days is what piece of ass am I going to fuck today. Not a day goes by where I'm not checking out USA and BP to see what's available to satisfy my carnal urging's. These urging's over time have escalated, becoming increasingly risky and provocative. I've decided this isn't the way I truly want to live my life so I'm trying to make a lifestyle change. I know it's not going to be easy! I've quit addiction's to drugs and tobacco and believe this will be harder to walk away from then either of those put together times ten! So hard as a mater of fact I'm thinking about seeking professional help, something I never did with my past addictions. I've been on quite the rampage this last month or so in anticipation of my departure. I thought it would be nice to go out with a huge fuckfest and have done my best to fuck every atf who's still working and a number of new providers as well. I'm almost finished, just a few more and I'm done. Time to pass the torch to a whole new generation of mongers and of course there's still plenty of old mongers out there to keep the young bucks in line! Good luck and be safe my brothers. Oh, I will have a couple of last parting posts just to remind everyone Jdog had some game! JD.
The Preacher
01-23-16, 11:37
I'm not ending my mongering career because of being ripped off, anyone that has done this for any length of time has probably gotten ripped off at some point or another, I actually chalk it up as part of the cost of doing business. My decision to call it quits has been a long time in coming, it's time for me. The main reason for my retirement is I recognize I have developed a serious addiction which has been intruding into all aspects of my life for some time now. All I think about these days is what piece of ass am I going to fuck today. Not a day goes by where I'm not checking out USA and BP to see what's available to satisfy my carnal urging's. These urging's over time have escalated, becoming increasingly risky and provocative. I've decided this isn't the way I truly want to live my life so I'm trying to make a lifestyle change. I know it's not going to be easy! I've quit addiction's to drugs and tobacco and believe this will be harder to walk away from then either of those put together times ten! So hard as a mater of fact I'm thinking about seeking professional help, something I never did with my past addictions. I've been on quite the rampage this last month or so in anticipation of my departure. I thought it would be nice to go out with a huge fuckfest and have done my best to fuck every atf who's still working and a number of new providers as well. I'm almost finished, just a few more and I'm done. Time to pass the torch to a whole new generation of mongers and of course there's still plenty of old mongers out there to keep the young bucks in line! Good luck and be safe my brothers. Oh, I will have a couple of last parting posts just to remind everyone Jdog had some game! JD.Cheers to your step towards sobriety my friend!
I'm not ending my mongering career because of being ripped off, anyone that has done this for any length of time has probably gotten ripped off at some point or another, I actually chalk it up as part of the cost of doing business. My decision to call it quits has been a long time in coming, it's time for me. The main reason for my retirement is I recognize I have developed a serious addiction which has been intruding into all aspects of my life for some time now. All I think about these days is what piece of ass am I going to fuck today. Not a day goes by where I'm not checking out USA and BP to see what's available to satisfy my carnal urging's. These urging's over time have escalated, becoming increasingly risky and provocative. I've decided this isn't the way I truly want to live my life so I'm trying to make a lifestyle change. I know it's not going to be easy! I've quit addiction's to drugs and tobacco and believe this will be harder to walk away from then either of those put together times ten! So hard as a mater of fact I'm thinking about seeking professional help, something I never did with my past addictions. I've been on quite the rampage this last month or so in anticipation of my departure. I thought it would be nice to go out with a huge fuckfest and have done my best to fuck every atf who's still working and a number of new providers as well. I'm almost finished, just a few more and I'm done. Time to pass the torch to a whole new generation of mongers and of course there's still plenty of old mongers out there to keep the young bucks in line! Good luck and be safe my brothers. Oh, I will have a couple of last parting posts just to remind everyone Jdog had some game! JD.JD, I applaud your decision to walk away. I know where you're at as I have been in the same place for quite some time. I've been chasing providers now for more than 24 years. If I had saved the tens of thousands of dollars spent on satisfying my primal urges I'd be able to retire today. But that was a choice I made and while I've enjoyed myself I do have regrets. I wish I could walk away to and many times I've sworn off seeing providers. But the thing is, with my hand held devise, I haven't been able to. Everyday I find myself checking out the providers on backpage and reading up on the postings on this site. I sometimes think the only way to stop is to get rid of my devise. No, I'm not transferring blame, I'm accountable, but I feel strongly that my devise has hindered overcoming my own personal demons.
Anyway, I think the only way to really quit is to make up your mind and quit. You said you have quit tobacco and drug addiction's without help. That has to be because you have some self discipline. Use that same self discipline in your quest to walk away from this addiction. Just do it, walk away and be strong enough to STOP yourself from surfing the Internet and dialing up that provider. You can do it! I for one understand and am pulling for you. I hope I can find the inner strength to do the same.
Good luck JD!
JD, I applaud your decision to walk away. I know where you're at as I have been in the same place for quite some time. I've been chasing providers now for more than 24 years. If I had saved the tens of thousands of dollars spent on satisfying my primal urges I'd be able to retire today. But that was a choice I made and while I've enjoyed myself I do have regrets. I wish I could walk away to and many times I've sworn off seeing providers. But the thing is, with my hand held devise, I haven't been able to. Everyday I find myself checking out the providers on backpage and reading up on the postings on this site. I sometimes think the only way to stop is to get rid of my devise. No, I'm not transferring blame, I'm accountable, but I feel strongly that my devise has hindered overcoming my own personal demons.
Anyway, I think the only way to really quit is to make up your mind and quit. You said you have quit tobacco and drug addiction's without help. That has to be because you have some self discipline. Use that same self discipline in your quest to walk away from this addiction. Just do it, walk away and be strong enough to STOP yourself from surfing the Internet and dialing up that provider. You can do it! I for one understand and am pulling for you. I hope I can find the inner strength to do the same.
Good luck JD!Thanks HD, once my grand exit is complete my first order of business is going to be deleting my USA account and blocking Backpage viewing on my computer. Then I'm going through my phone deleting every provider contact I have stored, I counted over thirty the other day and I hadn't come close to being finished. I'm also trying to think of another hobby I can replace my mongering hobby with, that's going to be a tough one. This hobby or whatever it is you'd like to call it has a lots of attraction, you have the hunt phase, the initial contact phase, lots of excitement here building to the actual meet up where there's anticipation as well as trepidation, what's actually going to greet you when that door opens? Then there's the sexual act itself and what can I talk her into, BBBJ, FS, anal etc. Building to my ultimate goal of sexual release. This addiction like most addictions starts out innocently enough but then grabs you and sucks you in until you can't control it any longer, it controls you. I'm not sure when that all happened but it did indeed happen. Recognizing the addiction is a good first step in any attempt at giving it up but I'm not by any means deceiving myself thinking this is going to be easy, it will not be easy. But I've said enough about this subject and I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing me go on about it so this will be my last post about my sexual addiction. JD.
Thanks HD, once my grand exit is complete my first order of business is going to be deleting my USA account and blocking Backpage viewing on my computer. Then I'm going through my phone deleting every provider contact I have stored, I counted over thirty the other day and I hadn't come close to being finished. I'm also trying to think of another hobby I can replace my mongering hobby with, that's going to be a tough one. This hobby or whatever it is you'd like to call it has a lots of attraction, you have the hunt phase, the initial contact phase, lots of excitement here building to the actual meet up where there's anticipation as well as trepidation, what's actually going to greet you when that door opens? Then there's the sexual act itself and what can I talk her into, BBBJ, FS, anal etc. Building to my ultimate goal of sexual release. This addiction like most addictions starts out innocently enough but then grabs you and sucks you in until you can't control it any longer, it controls you. I'm not sure when that all happened but it did indeed happen. Recognizing the addiction is a good first step in any attempt at giving it up but I'm not by any means deceiving myself thinking this is going to be easy, it will not be easy. But I've said enough about this subject and I'm sure everyone is tired of hearing me go on about it so this will be my last post about my sexual addiction. JD.I wish you good luck! You'll need it. It's not what you're addicted to. It's that you have the disease of addiction. I know. I have it. Only you can know if you do too.
Finger.
May have hit rock bottom the other week. Bacame so desperate to talk to and see my all time favorite. Spent more than $4,000 on her last year alone. Known her for almost 2 years.
We had a falling out (Several actually over last 6 months), but my feelings for her clouded my judgment.
I put up with a lot of her shit from October last year thru February this year because I liked her and her body so much.
I could have seen others, and I did, but I was addicted to her. She did some shitty things to me over past 6 months so in my passion for her, my affection for her, and my frustration for her I said some stupid things. I also reached out to her via a fake client account just to see if she would reply to "him" while she was ignoring me.
She figured it out and I felt like a piece of shit ever since. Tons of back story here, but trying to move on here.
Last summer was amazing with her and I wanted to keep that going, but I think she was growing tired of me. She would never say, but her actions proved differently.
I closed mist of my hobby accounts and email our of shame and guilt, but I think it may have been a catalyst for me to move on from her and the hobby.
I do wish and want nothing but the best for her. I feel so worthless and stupid and empty.
Knucklebuck
03-02-16, 13:42
...I do wish and want nothing but the best for her. I feel so worthless and stupid and empty.Obviously I don't know you or that woman personally, but if she's like 99.999% of the other women out there taking money from men for time & sex, then she probably hasn't given you a moment's thought other than missing your money. So from personal experience, I can say that I was a dumb ass for feeling worthless and stupid while my fave probably forgot my name the day I stopped calling.
Don't beat yourself up man.
Obviously I don't know you or that woman personally, but if she's like 99.999% of the other women out there taking money from men for time & sex, then she probably hasn't given you a moment's thought other than missing your money. So from personal experience, I can say that I was a dumb ass for feeling worthless and stupid while my fave probably forgot my name the day I stopped calling.
Don't beat yourself up man.Sometimes that temptation to act out is so strong. I want to see other women too, but I know I need a break and to prioritize my life.
5 k,15 k, mere amateurs, shit I bet I'm over 30 k LOL.It can consume a lot of money. From the early1980's through mid last decade when AMP's started getting closed down all over I'm very familiar with averaging close to a thousand a week. Now that AMP's are scarce and or the attendents are usually unattractive women in there 50's I've saved a bundle over the last 10 yrs. Would have saved more had I not learned of similar experiences provided by a few Chinese and Korean American students at a local University.
Joesouncool
03-18-16, 23:17
May have hit rock bottom the other week. Bacame so desperate to talk to and see my all time favorite. Spent more than $4,000 on her last year alone. Known her for almost 2 years.
We had a falling out (Several actually over last 6 months), but my feelings for her clouded my judgment.
I put up with a lot of her shit from October last year thru February this year because I liked her and her body so much.
I could have seen others, and I did, but I was addicted to her. She did some shitty things to me over past 6 months so in my passion for her, my affection for her, and my frustration for her I said some stupid things. I also reached out to her via a fake client account just to see if she would reply to "him" while she was ignoring me.
She figured it out and I felt like a piece of shit ever since. Tons of back story here, but trying to move on here.
Last summer was amazing with her and I wanted to keep that going, but I think she was growing tired of me. She would never say, but her actions proved differently.
I closed mist of my hobby accounts and email our of shame and guilt, but I think it may have been a catalyst for me to move on from her and the hobby.
I do wish and want nothing but the best for her. I feel so worthless and stupid and empty.Dude, you are not the first person to make this mistake. Glad you walked away. I did a way worse mistake years ago and blew way more money than you on a chick. I thought it was me for a long time, but finally. Came to the realization that I had been played. Just walk away. You'll be much happier.
PerimanFord
03-23-16, 15:18
Disappointing trip to #18 today. I only dabble every month or two, so when I do, I get ramped up and maybe expect too much. Decent looking, but breathe was horrible, and the closer I looked at the massage progressed the worse she looked to me. I couldn't even finish with the wrapped popsicle action, usually I can. Had prolonged handy work until finally it was over. Very deflating.
Here is my big issue, my wife is better looking than any provider I have encountered, and she is fairly accommodating. Every couple nights I get from her what would cost at least $300 out there. I have a great job, head turner of a wife. I should be more than happy, so why is it I do this? Every time I am risking my whole life, but I do it anyway.
I really need to walk away, any advice?
Disappointing trip to #18 today. I only dabble every month or two, so when I do, I get ramped up and maybe expect too much. Decent looking, but breathe was horrible, and the closer I looked at the massage progressed the worse she looked to me. I couldn't even finish with the wrapped popsicle action, usually I can. Had prolonged handy work until finally it was over. Very deflating.
Here is my big issue, my wife is better looking than any provider I have encountered, and she is fairly accommodating. Every couple nights I get from her what would cost at least $300 out there. I have a great job, head turner of a wife. I should be more than happy, so why is it I do this? Every time I am risking my whole life, but I do it anyway.
I really need to walk away, any advice?Have you considered that maybe you are addicted? Google sexual addiction therapist or support group in your area. You should talk to someone.
My addiction is similar. Plus I am crazy about a provider who now hates me. Can't stop thinking about her. PM me if you want to chat more.
Disappointing trip to #18 today. I only dabble every month or two, so when I do, I get ramped up and maybe expect too much. Decent looking, but breathe was horrible, and the closer I looked at the massage progressed the worse she looked to me. I couldn't even finish with the wrapped popsicle action, usually I can. Had prolonged handy work until finally it was over. Very deflating.
Here is my big issue, my wife is better looking than any provider I have encountered, and she is fairly accommodating. Every couple nights I get from her what would cost at least $300 out there. I have a great job, head turner of a wife. I should be more than happy, so why is it I do this? Every time I am risking my whole life, but I do it anyway.
I really need to walk away, any advice?Here's a long response, apologies in advance.
I would be VERY interested in chatting in an open forum such as this. I too struggle with this addiction -- for I believe that's what it is, at least for me -- and I would like to stop. I think it would help me to stop if I could share and receive support from others who can understand my situation.
Here's my story: I am in my early 50's, very happily married to a lovely woman who is still looks great. Nine years ago I was in London on business and hooked up with an insanely hot, 24 year old Polish girl in a bordello. That was all I needed. Next day it was a Danish girl. I struggled with guilt, fears for my health, etc, and went home to my wife in the US. I managed to stay out of the hobby for 2 years, chalked it up as an aberration. Then we moved to an area with lots of action and I started in with local girls.
In the past 7 years I have been with providers 96 times. 68 different girls, all types, but I prefer brunettes with big tits. Some are heavy, some aren't; some are smiley and cheerful, some are sulky and indifferent, I don't really care. If they open their legs, I'm game. I am especially fond of Latinas and mixed girls -- nice skin, accommodating personalities. I am a quick finisher so I typically go for quick visits that last less than 20 minutes. I tend to pay. 8 to $, but have paid as much as $$ for a really beautiful girl. Standing mish is my preferred position so I can look down at them underneath me. If they have an amazing ass, I might go for standing doggie.
Each year I've seen more and more girls, spent more and more money, and worried more about my health. I've gone for testing a couple times when I was sure I had something but all my tests were always negative. In 2009 I was with providers 2 times. In 2015 I saw providers 40 times. In summer 2014 I was banging a hot, fleshy hourglass of a girl when the condom broke and I came inside her. Felt terrific of course but I was terrified of disease. Got tested, nothing. But the experience scared me away for four months and I thought I was finally done. I remember feeling free because nothing would get me to go back; I threw away my burner phone and everything. This feeling lasted 4 months before I caved and saw another girl. She was so-so but I went to others and pretty soon I was doing more than ever before. In 2015, like I said, I was with providers 40 times, and this is after the incident with the broken condom. Last summer my wife and I went to London, where you can have a hot European blonde for. 35 and I had 12 girls in 5 days for about $$ $$ total. My wife would go off shopping or something while I went to a "museum" or a "music shop. " Or maybe I'd "hit the pub for a pint. " Because I'm so quick I could see 2 or even 3 girls in a couple of hours, then we'd meet up later and I'd concoct some story about where I'd been.
After the London trip I again laid off for a few months. At this point I am seeing a provider on average once a month. This is still too much. For one thing, I have changed jobs and I now have the best job of my life, once that I love, find rewarding, and that pays pretty well too. I'm not a young guy anymore and don't expect that I would ever be able to replicate this type of job situation. So getting caught by LEO would immediately result in termination (I'm a state employee now) and that would seriously ruin me. Moreover, my wife would leave me in a heartbeat. I have no illusions about this. She is hot blooded and passionate and would probably run me over in her car on the way out. So fear of destroying my life in multiple ways lies at the heart of my wanting to stop. Then too there are concerns about diseases (I'm very careful, no BB anything and I always wash and sanitize immediately after but you never know) and of course the financial side. Even though I tend toward quickies for $, when you add up 100 encounters more or less I'm sure I have spent well over 10 K. That's a fair amount of money for me. I know there are plenty of guys who have spent much more, but I have to just look at my own situation.
So those are 4 good reasons to stop: marriage, job, health, finances. So why is it so FUCKING hard to stop?
Well, here's one reason:
http://springfield.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/highly-reviewed-perfect-4-breakfast-hows-ur-appetite-early-bird-gets-the-worm/33829396
I fucked her twice in December, then she left the area and now she's back. If you can't understand why she is a temptation, then I can't explain it to you. (The pics are real BTW and she is totally my type, notwithstanding the blonde dye job.).
Here's another one:
http://springfield.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/young-sexy-brazilian-babe-eager-to-meet-you/33485119
I've been with her 4 times. Brazilian, real pics.
So, I really want to call one of these girls, give her money and fuck her. Instead, I am sitting on the couch typing this, while my wife sits across the room, reading a book. I am doing this hoping that one of you guys will respond back with your own story so we can start to figure out what the hell we're doing with these girls and how we can try to stop. Basically, to become each other's sponsors. I don't know, maybe it's a dumb idea? But maybe not.
One thing I have started doing: keeping a list of days that I DON'T see providers. Today is day 17. My goal right now is to go 4 months, because then I go on a vacation with my wife (not to London FFS) where I won't have opportunity to screw escorts. I'm hoping at some point the habit will be so broken that I won't even be tempted anymore. But I don't know. I've been at the point where I thought I was over it, and then boom, I see a pretty girl in the market, and I think of a provider I saw once or twice, and then I'm checking ads, and then I'm in a hotel room with some girl half my age or younger lying on the bed with her legs open. At that point, all the good intentions in the universe aren't going to stop biological necessity. So I'm hoping arrest things before they get to that point.
Thanks for listening, brothers. And whatever you do, stay safe and treat the girls well.
JS2.
DarkSideOfMe
03-26-16, 15:02
5 k,15 k, mere amateurs, shit I bet I'm over 30 k LOL.Fuck I'm into the $100,000 mark plus! I'm a PRO. 30 years of game, its the price we pay! Drk.
I am in the same boat with you.
Every pretty girl I see, I will turn into some action eiher contacting a provider or answering some ads.
I think it is the Nearderthal genes in me that drives me to essentially need to urge to reach out.
For me it is the variety thing and like brunettes more than blondes.
Perhaps it is something that our SO does not satisfy that we need to look elsewhere.
For instance, one experience I had where the privder was performaing oral on me. I have never had the same experience with my SO.
No matter how many times I have tried to train her.
Or perhaps it is at times that I like to go down and splurge a bit on the p*ssy. A shaven one.
My SO does not shave hers, so at the rare moments or craving, I look for one provider and reach out.
I need more time, but will write soon.
Hang in there.
I too am trying to keep stick marks for days without seeing. I fucked up today so tomorrow is day no. 1.
Be back when I can. Leaving for vacay tomorrow.
Here's a long response, apologies in advance.
I would be VERY interested in chatting in an open forum such as this. I too struggle with this addiction -- for I believe that's what it is, at least for me -- and I would like to stop. I think it would help me to stop if I could share and receive support from others who can understand my situation.
Here's my story: I am in my early 50's, very happily married to a lovely woman who is still looks great. Nine years ago I was in London on business and hooked up with an insanely hot, 24 year old Polish girl in a bordello. That was all I needed. Next day it was a Danish girl. I struggled with guilt, fears for my health, etc, and went home to my wife in the US. I managed to stay out of the hobby for 2 years, chalked it up as an aberration. Then we moved to an area with lots of action and I started in with local girls.
In the past 7 years I have been with providers 96 times. 68 different girls, all types, but I prefer brunettes with big tits. Some are heavy, some aren't; some are smiley and cheerful, some are sulky and indifferent, I don't really care. If they open their legs, I'm game. I am especially fond of Latinas and mixed girls -- nice skin, accommodating personalities. I am a quick finisher so I typically go for quick visits that last less than 20 minutes. I tend to pay. 8 to $, but have paid as much as $$ for a really beautiful girl. Standing mish is my preferred position so I can look down at them underneath me. If they have an amazing ass, I might go for standing doggie.
Each year I've seen more and more girls, spent more and more money, and worried more about my health. I've gone for testing a couple times when I was sure I had something but all my tests were always negative. In 2009 I was with providers 2 times. In 2015 I saw providers 40 times. In summer 2014 I was banging a hot, fleshy hourglass of a girl when the condom broke and I came inside her. Felt terrific of course but I was terrified of disease. Got tested, nothing. But the experience scared me away for four months and I thought I was finally done. I remember feeling free because nothing would get me to go back; I threw away my burner phone and everything. This feeling lasted 4 months before I caved and saw another girl. She was so-so but I went to others and pretty soon I was doing more than ever before. In 2015, like I said, I was with providers 40 times, and this is after the incident with the broken condom. Last summer my wife and I went to London, where you can have a hot European blonde for. 35 and I had 12 girls in 5 days for about $$ $$ total. My wife would go off shopping or something while I went to a "museum" or a "music shop. " Or maybe I'd "hit the pub for a pint. " Because I'm so quick I could see 2 or even 3 girls in a couple of hours, then we'd meet up later and I'd concoct some story about where I'd been.
After the London trip I again laid off for a few months. At this point I am seeing a provider on average once a month. This is still too much. For one thing, I have changed jobs and I now have the best job of my life, once that I love, find rewarding, and that pays pretty well too. I'm not a young guy anymore and don't expect that I would ever be able to replicate this type of job situation. So getting caught by LEO would immediately result in termination (I'm a state employee now) and that would seriously ruin me. Moreover, my wife would leave me in a heartbeat. I have no illusions about this. She is hot blooded and passionate and would probably run me over in her car on the way out. So fear of destroying my life in multiple ways lies at the heart of my wanting to stop. Then too there are concerns about diseases (I'm very careful, no BB anything and I always wash and sanitize immediately after but you never know) and of course the financial side. Even though I tend toward quickies for $, when you add up 100 encounters more or less I'm sure I have spent well over 10 K. That's a fair amount of money for me. I know there are plenty of guys who have spent much more, but I have to just look at my own situation.
So those are 4 good reasons to stop: marriage, job, health, finances. So why is it so FUCKING hard to stop?
Well, here's one reason:
http://springfield.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/highly-reviewed-perfect-4-breakfast-hows-ur-appetite-early-bird-gets-the-worm/33829396
I fucked her twice in December, then she left the area and now she's back. If you can't understand why she is a temptation, then I can't explain it to you. (The pics are real BTW and she is totally my type, notwithstanding the blonde dye job.).
Here's another one:
http://springfield.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/young-sexy-brazilian-babe-eager-to-meet-you/33485119
I've been with her 4 times. Brazilian, real pics.
So, I really want to call one of these girls, give her money and fuck her. Instead, I am sitting on the couch typing this, while my wife sits across the room, reading a book. I am doing this hoping that one of you guys will respond back with your own story so we can start to figure out what the hell we're doing with these girls and how we can try to stop. Basically, to become each other's sponsors. I don't know, maybe it's a dumb idea? But maybe not.
One thing I have started doing: keeping a list of days that I DON'T see providers. Today is day 17. My goal right now is to go 4 months, because then I go on a vacation with my wife (not to London FFS) where I won't have opportunity to screw escorts. I'm hoping at some point the habit will be so broken that I won't even be tempted anymore. But I don't know. I've been at the point where I thought I was over it, and then boom, I see a pretty girl in the market, and I think of a provider I saw once or twice, and then I'm checking ads, and then I'm in a hotel room with some girl half my age or younger lying on the bed with her legs open. At that point, all the good intentions in the universe aren't going to stop biological necessity. So I'm hoping arrest things before they get to that point.
Thanks for listening, brothers. And whatever you do, stay safe and treat the girls well.
JS2.
I need more time, but will write soon.
Hang in there.
I too am trying to keep stick marks for days without seeing. I fucked up today so tomorrow is day no. 1.
Be back when I can. Leaving for vacay tomorrow.FunInOhio: Hang in there RIGHT BACK ATCHA. Those stick marks are helpful. This is Day 18 for me and it really helps to have someone to report to.
Have a great vacation. I hope you're not going to Amsterdam, Bangkok or Vegas. .
Crow999: I hear you about the shaved puss. The first time I saw one outside of porn film was with my first provider in 2007. What can I say, when I was in college none of the girls did that. Now it's to the point where Bush is a real turn off. I got my SO to at least trim hers down, which helps a bit but not as much as, oh, an endless stream of 20 somethings.
Of course you're right that the main thing is just variety. One of my favorite parts of my addiction, apart from the sex of course, is keeping a running list of every provider I've seen. It's on a thumb drive and it has a quick summary of the encounter, photos from the online ad, sometimes photos that I've taken myself. So after I see the girl I add her to the list, and in the process I go through my whole provider history. It's an ENORMOUS turn-on and a really baaaad habit. So I'm trying to break it but it's not easy. It's no secret that guys are wired to have sex with as many women as possible. I used to fantasize about hitting 1,000. Now I'm trying not to set those kinds of goals, but it ain't easy.
I even have categories of girls by ethnicity on the list, along with charts for positions used, month of each visit, year of each visit etc. I guess it's kind of anal but it's just a way to try to look at the encounters from as many different angles as possible. To prolong the pleasure I think.
Anyway: Day 18, and counting.
Stay safe,
JS2.
Cephlapod Love
03-29-16, 10:09
Here's a long response, apologies in advance.
I would be VERY interested in chatting in an open forum such as this. I too struggle with this addiction -- for I believe that's what it is, at least for me -- and I would like to stop. I think it would help me to stop if I could share and receive support from others who can understand my situation.
I dunno, I don't have a SO to deal with, so my situation is different.
That said, under the category of there is more than one way to skin a cat.
I checked out "the lifestyle" or swinging as a way to get variety. It is a b*tch for single males (SMs) because of the way they generally treat the ladies. But on occasion I have had girl friends that were in or open to the lifestyle and that provided some fun and variety. If I find a permanent GF going forward, this would have to be a possibility.
But the key for the lifestyle as a couple is top-notched communication. Using it as a way to save a marriage usually results lots of drama. Dudes who would love to scr*w numerous women, freak out when they see someone with their wife, the mother of their children. Or when she makes a noise she doesn't make with him or has a bigger orgasm than she ever had with him. The male mind is a funny thing / place.
Perhaps that State sponsored health insurance covers some counseling? There are probably some issues that lead to such that could be uncovered and help one to find success?
Jay Play42
03-29-16, 12:19
I am in the same boat with you.
Every pretty girl I see, I will turn into some action eiher contacting a provider or answering some ads.
I think it is the Nearderthal genes in me that drives me to essentially need to urge to reach out.
For me it is the variety thing and like brunettes more than blondes.
Perhaps it is something that our SO does not satisfy that we need to look elsewhere.
For instance, one experience I had where the privder was performaing oral on me. I have never had the same experience with my SO.
No matter how many times I have tried to train her.
Or perhaps it is at times that I like to go down and splurge a bit on the p*ssy. A shaven one.
My SO does not shave hers, so at the rare moments or craving, I look for one provider and reach out.I can relate. My wife is better looking than most providers I see but the sex game at home isn't the same.
She can't give me head as good as alot of providers, I've tried to show her what I want and how I like it but she just can't get it.
Plus its a rarity, she thinks that she's giving me something that is priceless and the rare occasion that she catches or swallow she believes that she just gave me a gift I should cherish for a lifetime.
Little does she know I can get way better for a benjamin.
On the other hand enjoy DATY and I know she enjoys it as much I like giving it, but I've been reluctant to do it now since I don't get the same treatment in return.
And I know what you mean about shaving her cat, I don't understand why she won't do it for me if she knows what I want.
I have a voracious sexual appetite with a mediocre sexual partner, that's the main reason why I'm out here. For all you single guys out there keep that in mind before you tie the know.
Jay Play42
03-29-16, 17:18
One of my favorite parts of my addiction, apart from the sex of course, is keeping a running list of every provider I've seen. It's on a thumb drive and it has a quick summary of the encounter, photos from the online ad, sometimes photos that I've taken myself. So after I see the girl I add her to the list, and in the process I go through my whole provider history. It's an ENORMOUS turn-on and a really baaaad habit. So I'm trying to break it but it's not easy. It's no secret that guys are wired to have sex with as many women as possible. I used to fantasize about hitting 1,000. Now I'm trying not to set those kinds of goals, but it ain't easy.
I even have categories of girls by ethnicity on the list, along with charts for positions used, month of each visit, year of each visit etc. I guess it's kind of anal but it's just a way to try to look at the encounters from as many different angles as possible. To prolong the pleasure I think.
Anyway: Day 18, and counting.
Stay safe,
JS2.Uhm not for nothing becareful with that thumb drive, your wifes divorce lawyer will have field day with that in court, I would destroy all evidence despite how tempting it sounds.
Way way back in the days I used to do the group chats to try to pickup girls, then I got married and would still venture into some online when internet was young. Back in the days of AOL, LOL.
My wife found an email I had with a list of all the girls I used to and still kinda chatted with on the computer. I played it off as just friends.
But that email also had some fake accounts I used to communicate and she saw some of the interactions. Again I played it off as just fun and fantasy and that I never seen anyone of them but it was a slippery slope to be on.
I can relate. My wife is better looking than most providers I see but the sex game at home isn't the same.
She can't give me head as good as alot of providers, I've tried to show her what I want and how I like it but she just can't get it.
Plus its a rarity, she thinks that she's giving me something that is priceless and the rare occasion that she catches or swallow she believes that she just gave me a gift I should cherish for a lifetime.
Little does she know I can get way better for a benjamin.
On the other hand enjoy DATY and I know she enjoys it as much I like giving it, but I've been reluctant to do it now since I don't get the same treatment in return.
And I know what you mean about shaving her cat, I don't understand why she won't do it for me if she knows what I want.
I have a voracious sexual appetite with a mediocre sexual partner, that's the main reason why I'm out here. For all you single guys out there keep that in mind before you tie the know.I hear ya. The lady I was with did not shave either. Once in a while she trimmed which was nice. She also did not want daty. Did it with her a couple times through her panties, but she felt too oppressed or something. She said she did not feel comfortable with it.
She wa passionate at times, but mostly was slow and passionate. Not very sex crazy wild. She also dealt with depression. Which can severely decrease sexual desire as well can the meds used to treat depression. Sigh.
I started in the hobby host out of college. Only had a couple of steady GFs prior and was tired of jerkingoff.
I may detail my story and entry into the hobby later. I participate in hobby to where my finances allow, but I don't settle for any pussy. I am picky and have some preferred choices. Local BP does not offer babes as some of your cities (maybe 1 on 20 ads are worth checking out) so I mostly go for independent providers who advertise in a local city (detroit).
I could list some amazing beauties and reviewed them on ter, but I don't keep a file on computer or thumb drive.
I Became Infatuated AND obsessed with one lately which lead me to realize I need to chill and reevaluate my life and reasons for being in the hobby. I could not get enough of her. I did not like who I became or how I handled my business. She walked all over me and I allowed it because I wanted her so bad.
It was less about the hobby and more about wanting to spend my time with her. I fucked up and lost sight and perspective.
Cephlapod Love
04-01-16, 11:24
I Became Infatuated AND obsessed with one lately which lead me to realize I need to chill and reevaluate my life and reasons for being in the hobby. I could not get enough of her. I did not like who I became or how I handled my business. She walked all over me and I allowed it because I wanted her so bad.
It was less about the hobby and more about wanting to spend my time with her. I fucked up and lost sight and perspective.Yeah, Rule #1 of the hobby is NEVER fall in love with, get too attached to or obsess over a girl in the business!
Now that said, anyone who has been in the hobby knows. At times that is nearly impossible. So yeah, we all have been there and done that. Thankfully in my case, I had a fellow monger beat me about the head and shoulders until I quit with the obsession!
So good that you were able to step back and self center!
I have a voracious sexual appetite with a mediocre sexual partner, that's the main reason why I'm out here.I can relate. It's not even so much mediocrity, it's just monotony. I've been married 25 years, that's thousands of times with the same SO. Is it any wonder a guy craves variety?.
And looked at that way, the 100 or so times I've been with providers is really just a tiny percentage compared to the times I've been with my wife.
But anyway. This thread is about trying to KICK the HABIT. So then:
Today is day 31 of going without providers. Last one I saw was on March 9. Somebody give me a chip LOL.
Cravings not too bad today but still there. Was with my SO this morning which helped. Still was fantasizing about a provider from a year ago but the SO will never know.
Wish me luck over the next month. In my experience, the 6-to-7-week stretch is rough, I've fallen off the wagon several times around that time. I think I get complacent and let my guard down. I think "Oh I can handle it" and then scroll through BP and find some honey I can't resist. Also, next week I'm traveling for business and that's always tough for me too, opportunity leads to temptation and so forth.
Good luck with the brothers who are trying to quit. And everybody, stay safe.
JS2.
I can relate. It's not even so much mediocrity, it's just monotony. I've been married 25 years, that's thousands of times with the same SO. Is it any wonder a guy craves variety?.
And looked at that way, the 100 or so times I've been with providers is really just a tiny percentage compared to the times I've been with my wife.
But anyway. This thread is about trying to KICK the HABIT. So then:
Today is day 31 of going without providers. Last one I saw was on March 9. Somebody give me a chip LOL.
Cravings not too bad today but still there. Was with my SO this morning which helped. Still was fantasizing about a provider from a year ago but the SO will never know.
Wish me luck over the next month. In my experience, the 6-to-7-week stretch is rough, I've fallen off the wagon several times around that time. I think I get complacent and let my guard down. I think "Oh I can handle it" and then scroll through BP and find some honey I can't resist. Also, next week I'm traveling for business and that's always tough for me too, opportunity leads to temptation and so forth.
Good luck with the brothers who are trying to quit. And everybody, stay safe.
JS2.14 days here. Almost slipped up 2 nights ago. Provider was too busy to make schedules meet.
14 days here. Almost slipped up 2 nights ago. Provider was too busy to make schedules meet.2 weeks is a good start.
Me, I'm craving bad today. Hopefully I'll be able to stay busy enough to keep myself distracted.
Day 33 though. Wednesday will be 5 weeks.
Stay safe,
JS2.
2 weeks is a good start.
Me, I'm craving bad today. Hopefully I'll be able to stay busy enough to keep myself distracted.
Day 33 though. Wednesday will be 5 weeks.
Stay safe,
JS2.17 days ad counting. Texted one yesterday but she replued too late. SOL.
I'm at Day 40.
BUT, all I've done all day on this beautiful Patriots Day is sit at my computer, obsessing over pussy and setting up meetings with new girls I've never seen for tomorrow and Thursday. UTR types whose names I've gotten from contacts I've made on this board.
I KNOW I should keep away, that these girls are just ways for me to waste my money, my time, my health, my peace of mind. But honestly all I do is sit here and obsess over fucking them. Truly this is addict behavior. It's to the point where I have trouble concentrating on other things, music, books, a walk with my wife, because I'm just imagining fresh (to me) pussy.
Help me out guys. Remind me of why I'm trying to quit.
And by the way, Wednesday will be 6 weeks. Isn't this supposed to get easier as time goes by?
I'm at Day 40.
BUT, all I've done all day on this beautiful Patriots Day is sit at my computer, obsessing over pussy and setting up meetings with new girls I've never seen for tomorrow and Thursday. UTR types whose names I've gotten from contacts I've made on this board.
I KNOW I should keep away, that these girls are just ways for me to waste my money, my time, my health, my peace of mind. But honestly all I do is sit here and obsess over fucking them. Truly this is addict behavior. It's to the point where I have trouble concentrating on other things, music, books, a walk with my wife, because I'm just imagining fresh (to me) pussy.
Help me out guys. Remind me of why I'm trying to quit.
And by the way, Wednesday will be 6 weeks. Isn't this supposed to get easier as time goes by?Starting all over. 2 days.
VegaMan924
04-23-16, 21:30
Fuck I'm into the $100,000 mark plus! I'm a PRO. 30 years of game, its the price we pay! Drk.I'm talking 30 k in the last year not in my lifetime, way past 100 LOL.
Member #5136
04-25-16, 14:47
FunInOhio: Hang in there RIGHT BACK ATCHA. Those stick marks are helpful. This is Day 18 for me and it really helps to have someone to report to.
Have a great vacation. I hope you're not going to Amsterdam, Bangkok or Vegas. .
Crow999: I hear you about the shaved puss. The first time I saw one outside of porn film was with my first provider in 2007. What can I say, when I was in college none of the girls did that. Now it's to the point where Bush is a real turn off. I got my SO to at least trim hers down, which helps a bit but not as much as, oh, an endless stream of 20 somethings.
Of course you're right that the main thing is just variety. One of my favorite parts of my addiction, apart from the sex of course, is keeping a running list of every provider I've seen. It's on a thumb drive and it has a quick summary of the encounter, photos from the online ad, sometimes photos that I've taken myself. So after I see the girl I add her to the list, and in the process I go through my whole provider history. It's an ENORMOUS turn-on and a really baaaad habit. So I'm trying to break it but it's not easy. It's no secret that guys are wired to have sex with as many women as possible. I used to fantasize about hitting 1,000. Now I'm trying not to set those kinds of goals, but it ain't easy.
I even have categories of girls by ethnicity on the list, along with charts for positions used, month of each visit, year of each visit etc. I guess it's kind of anal but it's just a way to try to look at the encounters from as many different angles as possible. To prolong the pleasure I think.
Anyway: Day 18, and counting.
Stay safe,
JS2.Destroy that thumb drive. Burn it! That's a disaster waiting to happen.
Head First
04-25-16, 18:29
I'm at Day 40.
BUT, all I've done all day on this beautiful Patriots Day is sit at my computer, obsessing over pussy and setting up meetings with new girls I've never seen for tomorrow and Thursday. UTR types whose names I've gotten from contacts I've made on this board.
I KNOW I should keep away, that these girls are just ways for me to waste my money, my time, my health, my peace of mind. But honestly all I do is sit here and obsess over fucking them. Truly this is addict behavior. It's to the point where I have trouble concentrating on other things, music, books, a walk with my wife, because I'm just imagining fresh (to me) pussy.
Help me out guys. Remind me of why I'm trying to quit.
And by the way, Wednesday will be 6 weeks. Isn't this supposed to get easier as time goes by?Congratulations!! On all the days you've put together.
I'm a (recovering) addict too. Haven't had a drink or drugs since May, 1981. Haven't had a cigarette since Jan, 1987. It hasn't always been easy but my life is better for it.
What helped me then was relying on a higher power. I turned into a bible reading born again. That lasted till my Mother died, when I got pissed at 'God.'
Then one day on the suggestion of a co-worker we walked into an exotic dancer joint. The kind where you dropped a token in and the shade raised and a naked girl appeared. I went thru $5 of tokens like that and we were out of there. Embarrassed at what we just did, we laughed a little and went back to work. Next day I went right back. In fact I could hardly wait to go back. It felt perfectly right being there. As if I had found the missing piece of a puzzle I'd been searching for for a very long time. That was in 1990 and I've been hooked on this hobby ever since.
It was never a problem, even when I was married. I got very good at concealing my other identity. But eventually it took an (emotional) toll because I had became distant and withdrawn till finally the marriage ended in 2003, after 25 yrs.
So for the past 13 yrs I've been running free. Crazy! Crazy! Crazy! Long story there.
But I've gotten to a point where I realize that this behavior is a substitute to fill in a void and just covering up the real flaw in my character ... The inability to become emotionally intimate with my partner. Which I've discovered from reading a book on sexual addiction.
It's called 'Breaking The Cycle' by George N Collins, MA. It's an easy read. At the end it even offers info on a website and includes an invitation to talk to him personally by phone.
The book has been really helpful. I'm on my 5th reread. And I'm this close to signing up for some online, anonymous help.
We can't do this alone. We all need help.
I'm sure I'm addict too, I masturbate a lot to get me over the urge and the money.
But am I a bad person for this hand jive or am I still addicted, I do feel its saving me money, but still I'm so hooked on Asian women and would go get a massage any time but haven't in months.
I'm sure I'm addict too, I masturbate a lot to get me over the urge and the money.
But am I a bad person for this hand jive or am I still addicted, I do feel its saving me money, but still I'm so hooked on Asian women and would go get a massage any time but haven't in months.Saving money sure, but your brain craves the chemical release from masturbation. This is still an addictive behavior. Ask, am I in control of my desire and craving, or is my craving controlling me?
Try this book.
http://www.amazon.com/Breaking-Cycle-Yourself-Addiction-Obsession/dp/1608820831
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/1494518902/ref=tmm_abk_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B017MR418K/ref=tmm_aud_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=&sr=
I am listening through a free library service my self. Check it out.
Discuss via pm if you want to.
DarkSideOfMe
05-13-16, 19:52
What if playing this game, we play, gets you so high you feel like a different person? You feel better about your self,(age, money, looks) you look at life in a different way, then normally. I know this is bad for me, I can't turn back after all this time, How much more life do I really have without it? I have gone 1 year without watching porn!(big fucking deal) I still need a woman s touch (AMPs,) mostly. Like my friend "CHARLIE" said," we pay them to leave. " This is the same BS. I wrote, think, the last time I came across this post, I'm still looking for PUSSY to fuck, a lot of my time in a day! Pray for me. Drk.
What if playing this game, we play, gets you so high you feel like a different person? You feel better about your self,(age, money, looks) you look at life in a different way, then normally. I know this is bad for me, I can't turn back after all this time, How much more life do I really have without it? I have gone 1 year without watching porn!(big fucking deal) I still need a woman s touch (AMPs,) mostly. Like my friend "CHARLIE" said," we pay them to leave. " This is the same BS. I wrote, think, the last time I came across this post, I'm still looking for PUSSY to fuck, a lot of my time in a day! Pray for me. Drk.I hear ya. Of course you feel better about yourself. Last time I was with my ATF I was high for about 10 days. On top of the world from being with such a beauty. After that crash. Sure I met with a few others since then, but the high was not as great. Maybe lasted a day. Always wanting more. When my atf stopped talking to me and I did my immature retaliation I hit the lowest of lows.
I think if we are compulsive and what we do can hurt others in our lives then we really have to take a step back. It's not easy. For me it's been just over 2 weeks since my last slip up with a hott brunette. Been a week since I reached out to my old atf with a mother's day wish, hoping to break the ice there. I have to keep self from crossing both lines. I feel so pathetic at times.
Complacency is a killer. I got to feeling too comfortable, like my old habits were safely behind me. It's happened before but this time I thought I had it beat. Then I slipped up a couple times. Was doing well, no contact for 2 months, then whoops, then whoops again 9 days later. If not for that, this would be 2 and a half months. Instead, it's Day 5.
It's OK. Day 5 is better than Day 1. Tomorrow will be Day 6.
FunInOhio, you're doing better than I am! If my math is right, then today is Day 25 or 26 for you. You're weeks ahead of me, ya bastard. ;-)
DarkSideOfMe, keep at it. Every new day is a day you can go without, and be a better man for it. Start with just one day. Start with today. Hell, start with just this hour, or until dinnertime or whatever.
We should all have a poker party. I say, whoever gets to Day 100 first brings the beer.
JS2.
DarkSideOfMe
05-24-16, 19:07
So what is wrong with this? I have just hooked up with a 20,year old, tight body, nice skin, few tatts, no fat, tight ass, pussy to die for, nice face, just got left by the father of her son a month ago. "In need of some help", I felt very high for a week now. How can I give this up, first time we meet, it was set up by her mother who I'm fucking, talk about a mess. ! Spent 2 hours with her, talked, no FS, BJ, just talking, kissing, touching! My dick was so hard, her titts, were titts of a 20 year old, that pushed me to the edge! I thought about my 3 daughter that I have, older then her, how could I bang this "baby"? Maybe this was a step in the right direction for me, we will see, who knows, but I need to get back to see her, the high is so great right now for me, how can I not go? "(Its just to help her out)" ! What is it going to hurt? Drk P.S. " three times as old as her". 60/20.
Complacency is a killer. I got to feeling too comfortable, like my old habits were safely behind me. It's happened before but this time I thought I had it beat. Then I slipped up a couple times. Was doing well, no contact for 2 months, then whoops, then whoops again 9 days later. If not for that, this would be 2 and a half months. Instead, it's Day 5.
It's OK. Day 5 is better than Day 1. Tomorrow will be Day 6.
FunInOhio, you're doing better than I am! If my math is right, then today is Day 25 or 26 for you. You're weeks ahead of me, ya bastard. ;-)
DarkSideOfMe, keep at it. Every new day is a day you can go without, and be a better man for it. Start with just one day. Start with today. Hell, start with just this hour, or until dinnertime or whatever.
We should all have a poker party. I say, whoever gets to Day 100 first brings the beer.
JS2.25 days now. Should be able to close out May no problem.
Got some from the SO this morning, so that helps. Doesn't happen often but when it does, I can resist the rest.
Tomorrow is double digits and the long weekend is very SO-oriented, so I should be okay into next week.
FunInOhio: nice work.
DarkSide: there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, IF it makes you happy. But that's a big if. There's plenty wrong with it if it leaves you feeling tortured. The way you describe this girl, I'd fuck her too. The 60/20 thing is hot, no question. I'm not quite as old as you (54) but I love fucking girls in the 18-21 range because they are just a fraction of my age. I don't think there's anything wrong about it at all, as long as she's willing. Hell, we're only human.
BUT -- if you end up feeling terrible later, cursing yourself and your choices, worried about money and health etc. Then there's no point. When I get horny and bang a hooker, I feel okay about it IF it's what I really wanted to do that day. My problem is that more and more, I don't seek out girls because I'm horny, but just because I'm preoccupied with seeking girls. Sometimes I find myself fucking one when I wasn't even particularly horny that day--I just had means and opportunity, and the little voice in the back of my head whispering, "If you don't fuck her now, you might never get the chance again." No point in that, and then I worry about health, money, my SO, etc. So the downside later is greater than the upside in the moment. Don't know if that's true for you, but that's what I need to keep reminding myself. That, plus I actually have cash for things like taking myself out for lunch, buying a few tomato plants for the porch, etc.
Ultimately, you can only do what makes sense to you. If it makes sense to stop, then grit your teeth and stop. Or at least slow down. And then slow down a little more. And then, eventually, stop.
Stay safe brothers,
JS2
DarkSideOfMe
05-28-16, 10:17
Got some from the SO this morning, so that helps. Doesn't happen often but when it does, I can resist the rest.
Tomorrow is double digits and the long weekend is very SO-oriented, so I should be okay into next week.
FunInOhio: nice work.
DarkSide: there is absolutely nothing wrong with it, IF it makes you happy. But that's a big if. There's plenty wrong with it if it leaves you feeling tortured. The way you describe this girl, I'd fuck her too. The 60/20 thing is hot, no question. I'm not quite as old as you (54) but I love fucking girls in the 18-21 range because they are just a fraction of my age. I don't think there's anything wrong about it at all, as long as she's willing. Hell, we're only human.
BUT -- if you end up feeling terrible later, cursing yourself and your choices, worried about money and health etc. Then there's no point. When I get horny and bang a hooker, I feel okay about it IF it's what I really wanted to do that day. My problem is that more and more, I don't seek out girls because I'm horny, but just because I'm preoccupied with seeking girls. Sometimes I find myself fucking one when I wasn't even particularly horny that day--I just had means and opportunity, and the little voice in the back of my head whispering, "If you don't fuck her now, you might never get the chance again." No point in that, and then I worry about health, money, my SO, etc. So the downside later is greater than the upside in the moment. Don't know if that's true for you, but that's what I need to keep reminding myself. That, plus I actually have cash for things like taking myself out for lunch, buying a few tomato plants for the porch, etc.
Ultimately, you can only do what makes sense to you. If it makes sense to stop, then grit your teeth and stop. Or at least slow down. And then slow down a little more. And then, eventually, stop.
,
Stay safe brothers,
JS2I agree with you 100%, but what my problem because of age, I want to fuck them all, has nothing to do with being horny, it has become a big GAME to me. The hunt is my great release, not the kill, I should have fucked the girl you talked about (21 year old) because later that week her mother texted me, BABY is back with her ex! No more dates for her! Now what the fuck, no young pussy for this old man to put down! And in my mind I really want to fuck her, young pussy, to see if it makes me fill better, about myself, and getting old! You go figure it out?? I can't! Drk.
DarkSideOfMe
05-28-16, 11:12
Great to get away, family trip, daughters, grand kids, son in laws, sun, beach, great all the time (89 degrees,) 3 mile wind blows all the time, so you are never hot. Two half weeks! What more could you want in life? THIS; did I mention I'm going to "ARUBA" 35 years now, also did I mention, (pussy is all legal on the Inland! You read that right. No laws, ages, all fuck bars,24/7 ,just girls, more girls, more girls from all around the world girls that go to this Inland to fuck and make money!(most are 10's), just what the fuck I need right now, Ill be out all night, for 2/1/2 weeks trying to fuck all of them!! (great family trip!) stay tuned drk.
Great to get away, family trip, daughters, grand kids, son in laws, sun, beach, great all the time (89 degrees,) 3 mile wind blows all the time, so you are never hot. Two half weeks! What more could you want in life? THIS; did I mention I'm going to "ARUBA" 35 years now, also did I mention, (pussy is all legal on the Inland! You read that right. No laws, ages, all fuck bars,24/7 ,just girls, more girls, more girls from all around the world girls that go to this Inland to fuck and make money!(most are 10's), just what the fuck I need right now, Ill be out all night, for 2/1/2 weeks trying to fuck all of them!! (great family trip!) stay tuned drk.Keep the family trip a family trip. It may be difficilt.
I am on day 31 now. I Thinking About a couple of my favs though.
Keep the family trip a family trip. It may be difficilt.
I am on day 31 now. I Thinking About a couple of my favs though.I'm on Day 12. The next couple days are going to be crazy with work so I should be okay.
Then a 3-day weekend in another city with my SO, that should be safe too. Spending lots of money on the SO, sure, but that's how it's supposed to be. I'm sure I'll think about the girls plenty but lack of opportunity should get me to Day 19 or 20 without too much trouble.
Congratulations on your one-month chip, FunInOhio! If nothing else, think of the money you've saved and the health scares you've spared yourself.
Stay safe brothers.
JS2.
I'm on Day 12. The next couple days are going to be crazy with work so I should be okay.
Then a 3-day weekend in another city with my SO, that should be safe too. Spending lots of money on the SO, sure, but that's how it's supposed to be. I'm sure I'll think about the girls plenty but lack of opportunity should get me to Day 19 or 20 without too much trouble.
Congratulations on your one-month chip, FunInOhio! If nothing else, think of the money you've saved and the health scares you've spared yourself.
Stay safe brothers.
JS2.Back to square one guys.
Back to square one guys.Chin up, FunInOhio! If this was an easy habit to kick, we wouldn't need to be on here talking to each other.
Day 20 for me, but I made an appointment for this morning with a sexy spinner, then overslept and had to miss it. OK, so at least I didn't reschedule for this afternoon. That's half a victory anyway, right?
Tomorrow is 3 weeks.
Meanwhile I picture DarkSideOfMe on a beach somewhere with about 4 girls bent over in front of him, taking turns with one after another as he douses himself with pina coladas and Skittles. But maybe that's just me.
Stay safe guys.
JS2.
Member #5147
06-21-16, 09:27
But this is my first step. Admitting that what I thought was over, still oppresses me.
God has created some beautiful creatures and like many men I look to the creation rather than the creator. "There is no temptation that is not common to man, but with that temptation, He will make a way of escape".
Some temptations are too powerful, so we have to run from it. Not dabble in it, and think we are strong enough flirt with it.
I am preaching to myself guys. 50 years of addiction, two failed marriages directly related to it. Thousands of wasted hours.
Tens of thousands of dollars.
I started reading USASG for obvious reasons, then I found this thread. I am making a commitment to become free.
Thanks for your ear and encouragement.
So I'm pretty happy with that. If I can hold out for 2 more weeks, I'll be in vaca with my SO and unable to indulge. Aiming for 2 months of abstinence. Wish me luck!
Stay safe all.
JS2.
Head First
06-30-16, 17:57
So I'm pretty happy with that. If I can hold out for 2 more weeks, I'll be in vaca with my SO and unable to indulge. Aiming for 2 months of abstinence. Wish me luck!
Stay safe all.
JS2.Good Luck!
A month ago I set what I thought would be an ez goal of 2 weeks for myself. Was only able to make it to 13 days.
I'm becoming aware just what a challenge this will be.
Fall down 7 times. Get up 8.
DarkSideOfMe
06-30-16, 19:18
Great to get away, family trip, daughters, grand kids, son in laws, sun, beach, great all the time (89 degrees,) 3 mile wind blows all the time, so you are never hot. Two half weeks! What more could you want in life? THIS; did I mention I'm going to "ARUBA" 35 years now, also did I mention, (pussy is all legal on the Inland! You read that right. No laws, ages, all fuck bars,24/7 ,just girls, more girls, more girls from all around the world girls that go to this Inland to fuc, k and make money!(most are 10's), just what the fuck I need right now, Ill be out all night, for 2/1/2 weeks trying to fuck all of them!! (great family trip!) stay tuned drk.Well I'm back from my family trip 2 weeks with my grand kids, , sand, pool, tan, going out to dinner had, a great time! As I think back now I wonder what the fuck did I enjoy? Yes I had a great time with my grand kids, but I must admit I hit "rock bottom"! Didn't search on line the whole time!(for pussy, that's good right, made it 2 weeks) What I did do was fuck (21,22,year old woman every night) $45.00 a pop! (All 10's on our scale) Never had such a hunger for pussy before. Went to "Aruba fuck bars" like I never have before, was on such a high,(2,3) a night, what a feeling who needs drugs? I had good intentions to keep my sex addition under control, but I couldn't. I'm still feeling, like 18 ,hard dick kid, I'm walking off the ground, after all that young," coked" up pussy that I fucked, what a feeling of power, is it really about fucking young pussy at my age? Is that bad,? I don't know. Been home for 2 weeks and haven't had any pussy, but I'm starting to feel the power struggle, to" hunt "again! Nothing going on over the 4th weekend, but going on Buss. Trip to Columbus next week, holly fuck its starting over again now that I'm thinking about my Buss. Trip! I need to hunt, search the boards, backpage, USA, Indy, for someone to fuck when I'm in Columbus! I really don't think I can get out now, maybe my age will slow me down soon, stop me, who the fuck knows! Drk. Just pray for me.
I've hit an all time low. I haven't posted much on here because I've been so busy fucking as many as I can daily that I have no time to write. I've been fucking 2-3 providers a day. 2016 I've already spent over $50,000. My latest thing is bareback full service and how I can convince them. What dollar amount is each girls number has become a challenge for me. I have no regard of my health and I cum inside them not knowing if they're on the pill. I don't care. I feel invincible and I even pickup civilians at gas stations because I feel so empowered and confident. I fucked one over the weekend in a forest bareback. Went and got another one the same day and made her give me a BBBJ without showering in between to see if the second one would notice the pussy juice on my cock. In between fucking her in different positions I took off the condom and fucked her bareback without her realizing it and pretended I just needed a new rubber because I told her the old one was coming off. I'm fucked up.
Well I'm back from my family trip 2 weeks with my grand kids, , sand, pool, tan, going out to dinner had, a great time! As I think back now I wonder what the fuck did I enjoy? Yes I had a great time with my grand kids, but I must admit I hit "rock bottom"! Didn't search on line the whole time!(for pussy, that's good right, made it 2 weeks) What I did do was fuck (21,22,year old woman every night) $45.00 a pop! (All 10's on our scale) Never had such a hunger for pussy before. Went to "Aruba fuck bars" like I never have before, was on such a high,(2,3) a night, what a feeling who needs drugs? I had good intentions to keep my sex addition under control, but I couldn't. I'm still feeling, like 18 ,hard dick kid, I'm walking off the ground, after all that young," coked" up pussy that I fucked, what a feeling of power, is it really about fucking young pussy at my age? Is that bad,? I don't know. Been home for 2 weeks and haven't had any pussy, but I'm starting to feel the power struggle, to" hunt "again! Nothing going on over the 4th weekend, but going on Buss. Trip to Columbus next week, holly fuck its starting over again now that I'm thinking about my Buss. Trip! I need to hunt, search the boards, backpage, USA, Indy, for someone to fuck when I'm in Columbus! I really don't think I can get out now, maybe my age will slow me down soon, stop me, who the fuck knows! Drk. Just pray for me.542 posts and still a regular member. You must be one bad motherfucker. We need to petition admin for your senior status. Actually who gives a shit about that? The real players know who you are. You're a platinum member in my book brother.
I've hit an all time low. I haven't posted much on here because I've been so busy fucking as many as I can daily that I have no time to write. I've been fucking 2-3 providers a day. 2016 I've already spent over $50,000. My latest thing is bareback full service and how I can convince them. What dollar amount is each girls number has become a challenge for me. I have no regard of my health and I cum inside them not knowing if they're on the pill. I don't care. I feel invincible and I even pickup civilians at gas stations because I feel so empowered and confident. I fucked one over the weekend in a forest bareback. Went and got another one the same day and made her give me a BBBJ without showering in between to see if the second one would notice the pussy juice on my cock. In between fucking her in different positions I took off the condom and fucked her bareback without her realizing it and pretended I just needed a new rubber because I told her the old one was coming off. I'm fucked up.Not judging your sexual craving, but you got to stop sneaking about removing the cover to go BB if she has not agreed. Take A Break man. Talk to someone. Take CARE man.
Head First
08-14-16, 16:27
I bookmarked it. Thnx MWiggly2.
http://www.sexualcontrol.com/
Day 8 for me.
MikeKemmer28
08-24-16, 16:23
Hey guys,
I have been getting out of control lately. I use backpage at least 3-4 times a week. When I'm low on funds I even go to craiglist and get guys to help me out. I'm married and have 2 children and a great relationship, I just like to get off and have a variety of different people. My family does not know. How do I break the cycle? I tried jerking off, but that seems to make it worse.
Thank you for anything that you can help me with!
CaptivaHeat
08-25-16, 09:57
Hey Joey and Chin up, your comments are so honest and helpful as I just found this link. Have been realizing over past couple of months that I have the addiction. Not easy, when I have known others with drug / alcohol addictions and felt myself so above any bad behavior that is hard to stop.
The past year I retired and found my occasional hobby going to a weekly basis. After nearly 50 Backpage "dates," started making a list of the bad and good along with the expenditure tally. Sobering, but still wanting to play and prowl daily on the BP site and others. Then, busted a few weeks ago by my beautiful, sexy wife of 10 years! Already had decided to stop, at least temporarily until returning from vacation in mid-September. Had called off a Sugar Daddy relationship that started last May which I can give you some details if wanted.
But after reading your guys' accounts here, this is a bad addiction requiring tough work and not a temporary halt. Day 19 day today but still prowling the sites. Did tear up my summary of the good and bad ladies today. Still lay awake at night thinking of the goods. And, of course, intrigued daily by new.
Sure would appreciate your support as I proceed onto Day 20 and beyond. This is not an easy, harmful habit to kick.
Chin up, FunInOhio! If this was an easy habit to kick, we wouldn't need to be on here talking to each other.
Day 20 for me, but I made an appointment for this morning with a sexy spinner, then overslept and had to miss it. OK, so at least I didn't reschedule for this afternoon. That's half a victory anyway, right?
Tomorrow is 3 weeks.
Meanwhile I picture DarkSideOfMe on a beach somewhere with about 4 girls bent over in front of him, taking turns with one after another as he douses himself with pina coladas and Skittles. But maybe that's just me.
Stay safe guys.
JS2.
HuntLadys29
08-26-16, 16:48
Hey guys,
I have been getting out of control lately. I use backpage at least 3-4 times a week. When I'm low on funds I even go to craiglist and get guys to help me out. I'm married and have 2 children and a great relationship, I just like to get off and have a variety of different people. My family does not know. How do I break the cycle? I tried jerking off, but that seems to make it worse.
Thank you for anything that you can help me with!What do you mean you get guys to help you out? HL29.
Been going to Strip Clubs for about 6 years. I've spent a good amount of cash. I like to get a relationship and see what happens, always try and make it fun, LOL. Mostly good but recently been spending too much time and $ on one. I know I'm being played, looking to make a break. Reading previous posts have been most helpful. Thanks.
Ok so I'm trying to visit a little less. I've seen her 50 times so far this year. Last visit was a week ago Tuesday. She emailed me and asked if I could visit today. I think I may succumb. At least I'll only see her once this week. Small progress.
Head First
09-02-16, 17:34
14 days seems to be a wall for me. Twice in the past couple months and once to 13 days is as far as I've gotten before making a call for some relief. That's telling me it may be more physiological than psycological (big words). Years ago I remember making it 3 weeks but I was on anti depressants then too so that helped stretch it out. Don't want to go back on those so not sure what my next move should be.
In the meantime I'm saving a bunch of green.
Also I'm continuing to get legit massages where I know there's no chance in Hell of leaving happy. But it's still relaxing. I feel sorta like a recovering alcoholic having an occasional O'Doul's.
Hmmm.
For guys trying to quit and have made it over a week, do you stop seeing providers or do you stop porn & fapping as well?
Beachesnole02
09-10-16, 10:59
For guys trying to quit and have made it over a week, do you stop seeing providers or do you stop porn & fapping as well?If you are looking at porn, you are going to go do it again.
Glad I found this forum I'm a man that's incredibly Addicted to the trade or hobby. , I see a provider atleast twice a week, and masterbate often every Friday I go out hunting to find a provider or a street walker or anything that crosses my path really. I guess it's in a mans nature to seek the meat, Lost a wife I use to have because of my sexual desires have two older kids and just continuing life with this addiction, but on the bright side even if we do have this addiction I know alot of us are very good people by heart I would assume I am? ,and most of you as well. SADLY I have a girlfriend now, but as I tend to build the relationship and trust with this woman there's is no sexual action in the relationship yet because I tend to respect her as a woman and I don't want to ruin my chances by being creep to her. , Recently I invited her over to Stay the night with me and she grew suspicious of my idea. , Which was clear as day to her what my attentions were and She hit me back with the answer YES, but there's not going to be any sexual action involve in us sleeping together so as a man of my word and in order to grow her trust we had a good day / night took her to dinner, a movie came home slept and the rules were respected, but in between that time frame I went out to seek a provider to get some sexual relief and to get rid of the sex desire, so I can focus on the woman 100% and to give it all a man can do to be a gentleman it's been many years since I did this with any of my ex wifes.
I find no cure in this for me at all I've tried many things.
I've spent a fair amount of $$ +on a stripper this past year, saw her twice the last week. Wednesday and Sunday. I'm a guy that likes a little fur, she shaved it off. Might make the break a bit easier. On a side note wife asked me about a credit card purchase. Told her the truth it was a porn site. See if she asks to see it. I'll probably never be a senior member but this site is a resource for both sides of the spectrum and I appreciate that. I love pussy!
Hey Midwt2006 What you said seems pretty regular and normal to me. I do occasional street hunting, Porn everyday, Masterbate everyday, I have atleast two minimum BP Apointments in a week 60-120 Each visit I will desperately go to to my next BP appointment in the same day if I wasn't satisfied most of the girls I see on BP have a ton of rules, and I'm a guy that hates them all, I love the street walkers the most AND less like for the strippers, and Escorts on BP tons and tons of rules. Some UTR's I visit I will make them Eat my A-hole and I will do Incredibly nasty fun things to them! I'm an old creeper that will hunt from 1-140 miles around my radius surroundings because I just simply can't Stop and the addiction I have since I was 29 and that was quite a lot of years ago. I love woman of all types of shapes, colors, race, and style. I love young and old I just can't quit this bad habit.
Wow Pison00 you're right, I do seem normal compared to you. Don't think I'll ever get to where you are. I have way to much to lose. But I am glad I've started to realize the potential risks and how easy it is to get swept up in this stuff. Be safe.
Head First
09-18-16, 13:00
Made it only 6 days this cycle. Was driving when I saw a sign for a spa. Never been to this one so I pulled in. Out comes a 30 ish hottie with a smoking body wearing a tight L*B*D and some heels. How much? 45 or 65. Asked her if she was fun and right there in the lobby she leaned over and flashed me her top along with a smile.
Into the room where I was waiting naked when she came back. She brushed against me so I smacked her ass and she giggled. Told her to turn out the light and come back over here. Off came her dress, bra, and panties, just like that. No negotiating, no talking, no nothing. Within a minute she was on the table, on her back, with her legs spread wide open.
She didn't disappoint and neither did I.
I'm sitting here trying to figure out what happened that made me go off the wagon. When I saw the spa sign it was automatic. Instantaneously I pulled in and got out of my car. I've had that happen before and was able to turn around and leave. But not this time. The spa sign was like a huge electro magnet and once I got in it's range I didn't stand a chance.
I left happy. And sad. And mad. And disappointed. In myself. But I'll get over it.
I love this hobby. I hate this hobby.
Today is day 1 for me, and it comes after seeing a regular. Some background: I'm married, one step-daughter, and have been doing this for 8 years. I've probably fucked somewhere in the neighborhood of 300-400 women in that time. I just want to stop feeling guilty. Today, I was insanely horny. Yeah, I could've jerked off in the bathroom here at work, but my dick was screaming to nut inside some pussy. Driving to my regular, I was already feeling the guilt, but I pressed on. I'm glad, however, that this section of the forum exists. I need a supportive community of people who can relate and are generally non-judgmental. This is the start of my journey. I have a pretty good marriage to preserve, but I have to take Dr. Jekyll to the wood shed. Wish me luck, guys. I want the mythical "one month" chip.
FirstAndGoal
09-21-16, 14:28
DJ. Although I am certain luck has nothing to with it I wish you all us mongers can grant. I have a very similar life status but more like 12 years and the afforded increase of comenserate number of women! I personally have had no luck in dealing with Mr. Hyde at the woodshed Please keep us posted on your journey. !
Today is day 1 for me, and it comes after seeing a regular. Some background: I'm married, one step-daughter, and have been doing this for 8 years. I've probably fucked somewhere in the neighborhood of 300-400 women in that time. I just want to stop feeling guilty. Today, I was insanely horny. Yeah, I could've jerked off in the bathroom here at work, but my dick was screaming to nut inside some pussy. Driving to my regular, I was already feeling the guilt, but I pressed on. I'm glad, however, that this section of the forum exists. I need a supportive community of people who can relate and are generally non-judgmental. This is the start of my journey. I have a pretty good marriage to preserve, but I have to take Dr. Jekyll to the wood shed. Wish me luck, guys. I want the mythical "one month" chip.
JL. Your posts are thoughtful and thorough, and you tend to take a worldview similar to mine about the bowl. It is far preferable to me than escorts because of its hints of reality along with the fantasy, and far higher quality. I don't have to read escort reviews of BP girls on this site for long to know that 's not for me. As a married SD, I am also very wary of STDs, etc. So, I have benefited from your thinking and adopted a lot of it simply because it resonates. I also try to minimize the falsehoods I have to foist on the SO, b / c there are strong aspects of our relationship and I'm not looking to make any changes. There would also be serious $ penalties if we parted, with or w / o knowledge of my sugaring, so that's extra incentive. I'd think there are a few of us in the bowl who are in similar situations. So continuing to lay out your perspective is valuable.I think you're right that there is commonality among the reasons each of us partake in the bowl. Usually, it seems, there are two broad categories of guys here: those that are single and using the bowl as an extension of dating, or those that have an SO but are missing something at home. I'm content with my SO and not missing anything. All relationships have disagreements and such, but overall I can't complain about her. My weakness is when either I travel or she travels -- the idea of burying my nose in a book to occupy the time always seems to lose out to the idea of burying my cock in some hot young girl. Problem is, in order to do so requires some amount of preparation work (especially if you weed out the girls that insist on talking money up front, because it narrows your list of choices somewhat). Then I find myself bothered by the amount of time and effort it takes to catalog POTS, keep notes on who is who, and do the mental sorting and juggling dance of who is who in each city.
The dating and sex of course is fun, and even reminiscing about it brings back fond memories, but I have not convinced myself it's worth it overall. Honestly if someone said I could take a pill right now that would subdue my craving for strange pussy and stick to my SO I'd go for it in a heartbeat. Until then I just kind of hang on until hopefully one day neither she nor I travels, or maybe even with all my planning I end up getting some sort of wake up call that inspires me to stop doing this.
It might sound like BS but I really do want to stop.
PecanSandy
10-15-16, 09:29
When I first learned of these boards I was beginning my final pshych. Paper for college. The reason I chose this topic. I never thought to much about the hobbie itself. Often though maybe it could be legalized. Until MY best girlfriend of 20 years. Her family was destroyed. A great family that had it all with very good looking middle aged parents who had some extra $ and really took care of themselves. They got along great. The Mom (my second mom) is Beautiful and often is asked by strangers if she is the mom or the daughter. Well all it took was one broken condom to reveal what had been going on. He brought something home and she got sick.
The father is responsible for all the pain he has caused and he is more depressed with the mess he caused than the wife is about the divorse. I worry about him taking his life. Imagine daddys little girl who grows up into a georgous young women and now she hates you?
This began as a bachelor party OOOps, when he had something to drink and some buddies encouraging it. Then became an addiction that he hatred. He could not get out. I said each time he was never going to do this again and in 2-3 days he was on shopping again. He knew he was in addiction and he knew he was going to mess everything up, but could not stop. Its the addiction to chemicals released from the excitment and mostly from the risk! This is why guys get more risky over time. Please guys, be careful, wean down and reduce your habbit slowly if you want to get out.
Head First
10-25-16, 01:11
Thats how many days I made it this cycle from the last time. Thats the longest I've gone without a visit to a whorehouse, or an AMP, or an EMP, or a strip club, or anywhere there are females willing to accept money for sex. And that also includes only one visit to a porn site which BTW didn't result in a happy ending. I've been doing this since the late 80's so I'm pretty proud of myself.
I got to thinking this was achievable. That I could give this behavior up.
And then my birthday came. And I thought since nobody was baking me a cake or throwing me a party, and I didn't even hear from my daughter, that I should reward myself / have my own party.
So I splurged and went to my new goto. By the time I got there I was so excited that even the Great Wall of China couldn't have stopped me from going in. And in I went. My new atf greeted me and soon we were both naked and doing things that gave me great pleasure.
An hour later I'm on the way home and feeling guilty for going. But also proud. For staying away for 23 days!!
It's giving me hope that I may be able to do this. Just not this time.
I think you're right that there is commonality among the reasons each of us partake in the bowl. Usually, it seems, there are two broad categories of guys here: those that are single and using the bowl as an extension of dating, or those that have an SO but are missing something at home. I'm content with my SO and not missing anything. All relationships have disagreements and such, but overall I can't complain about her. My weakness is when either I travel or she travels -- the idea of burying my nose in a book to occupy the time always seems to lose out to the idea of burying my cock in some hot young girl. Problem is, in order to do so requires some amount of preparation work (especially if you weed out the girls that insist on talking money up front, because it narrows your list of choices somewhat). Then I find myself bothered by the amount of time and effort it takes to catalog POTS, keep notes on who is who, and do the mental sorting and juggling dance of who is who in each city.
The dating and sex of course is fun, and even reminiscing about it brings back fond memories, but I have not convinced myself it's worth it overall. Honestly if someone said I could take a pill right now that would subdue my craving for strange pussy and stick to my SO I'd go for it in a heartbeat. Until then I just kind of hang on until hopefully one day neither she nor I travels, or maybe even with all my planning I end up getting some sort of wake up call that inspires me to stop doing this.
It might sound like BS but I really do want to stop.I think deep down I want to stop also, and often question if it's worth it? With a SO, I also consider just going back to seeing the occasional pro. Which for me is a lot easier and less risky. But I guess that's just not the way we are wired as men. At least the type of men here, which I like for the most part. And I think most on this site are good decent guys who deep down really like woman and the sexual joy they can provide. My home life is sexless now but I am not sure that matters, because when I was younger (60 now) - my wife and I had a great time, she was super hot and all was good. But every time I was out of town, which was often, all I could think about was strange pussy and how to get it. And it has just carried on my entire life, I have never changed and probably never will, but yes I would probably take that pill also!
My guess is JZ that you are a very successful person and it's just the way you roll. But given your make up and as you say when you travel or your SO is away. Your not reading a book your on the prowl. I am convinced that driven successful men are that way and they don't want to sit on the pouch and pet the dog, and I love my dogs. My SO is leaving in a couple weeks and I am working hard in the SB to set up meets. I guess the real difference today is the access we have to woman. Both pros and the SA type sites. And lets face it, previous civilizations did not have the ability to find young hot woman who want to fuck them. This is truly remarkable when you think about it. I guess my point is, how many men given this candy, could seriously say they would never think about doing it or actually doing it. Have been on SA for a little over a month. I can tell you what you already know, it's extremely ADDICTIVE. Especially for a man with my weaknesses. .
I think deep down I want to stop also, and often question if it's worth it? With a SO, I also consider just going back to seeing the occasional pro. Which for me is a lot easier and less risky. But I guess that's just not the way we are wired as men. At least the type of men here, which I like for the most part. And I think most on this site are good decent guys who deep down really like woman and the sexual joy they can provide. My home life is sexless now but I am not sure that matters, because when I was younger (60 now) - my wife and I had a great time, she was super hot and all was good. But every time I was out of town, which was often, all I could think about was strange pussy and how to get it. And it has just carried on my entire life, I have never changed and probably never will, but yes I would probably take that pill also!
My guess is JZ that you are a very successful person and it's just the way you roll. But given your make up and as you say when you travel or your SO is away. Your not reading a book your on the prowl. I am convinced that driven successful men are that way and they don't want to sit on the pouch and pet the dog, and I love my dogs. My SO is leaving in a couple weeks and I am working hard in the SB to set up meets. I guess the real difference today is the access we have to woman. Both pros and the SA type sites. And lets face it, previous civilizations did not have the ability to find young hot woman who want to fuck them. This is truly remarkable when you think about it. I guess my point is, how many men given this candy, could seriously say they would never think about doing it or actually doing it. Have been on SA for a little over a month. I can tell you what you already know, it's extremely ADDICTIVE. Especially for a man with my weaknesses. .It is certainly addictive. Although, it's a stop and go addiction for me. If I travel or the SO travels, I find myself bored and with a tendency toward mischief. The rest of the time, to be absolutely honest, I don't look forward to my next travel excursion, my SO's next trip, or my next SB meeting. In fact, every time I start my website accounts back up, I have to motivate myself to do so, because the process of searching for girls and filtering it down to the ones I want is a lot of work and a task I don't really look forward to.
This is one reason I have been seriously considering giving up SBs altogether, and maybe just sticking to the occasional hunt for strippers. I love the spontaneity of randomly going in a strip club and trying to line up some fun -- if it happens it happens but if not, then I just tell myself well I really shouldn't have been trying to do that anyway. The processing of hunting for, sorting, and arranging dates with SBs wears on my conscience a bit more and for that reason I am increasingly telling myself I should just try to stop. I sometimes wish the bar scene was like it was before the Internet, where easy women hung out in bars and clubs regularly instead of meeting people on computers and smartphones. Then, if you wanted to roll the dice you could just wander into one of these places and try to hook up a one night stand, the thrill of the hunt was the fun part. The bar scene has changed a lot now, online dating has reshaped how and why people go to these places as well as reshaping the places themselves. They aren't as good for spontaneous hookups as they used to be, while strip clubs still are what they are.
I actually seem to be getting closer to my SO the longer I'm with her. A good relationship takes a lot of time to build, only minutes to destroy, and a lot of people go through their entire lives without even having the chance at one. So why am I undermining one of the things in my life that's most important to me? I'm very happy with her so increasingly this hobby makes less sense for me.
I don't know. I have an increasing level of thoughts along these lines, I just hadn't really thought about airing them here at any level of detail, because I think it's not where most SDs are with this. A guy who is unsatisfied with his wife, for sexual reasons or any other, is in a very different place with all this than I am.
I've always thought one of the keys to effectively managing addictions (controlling them instead of them controlling you) is to not try to impose difficult rules upon yourself. For example, if someone wants to stay physically fit, then stay disciplined most of the time, but don't make hard rules like "I can never, ever eat sweets of any kind". By giving yourself an occasional well-managed reward, you relieve a certain amount of pressure and thus make it easier to maintain your discipline on the larger goal.
So I'm not 100% sure that formerly making a commitment to myself to stop is necessarily the right thing to do. If I thought it was, I probably would have already done it. It's something I'm still thinking about (a lot lately actually).
FarFarAway
10-29-16, 00:43
I think deep down I want to stop also, and often question if it's worth it? With a SO, I also consider just going back to seeing the occasional pro. Which for me is a lot easier and less risky. But I guess that's just not the way we are wired as men. At least the type of men here, which I like for the most part. And I think most on this site are good decent guys who deep down really like woman and the sexual joy they can provide. My home life is sexless now but I am not sure that matters, because when I was younger (60 now) - my wife and I had a great time, she was super hot and all was good. But every time I was out of town, which was often, all I could think about was strange pussy and how to get it. And it has just carried on my entire life, I have never changed and probably never will, but yes I would probably take that pill also!
My guess is JZ that you are a very successful person and it's just the way you roll. But given your make up and as you say when you travel or your SO is away. Your not reading a book your on the prowl. I am convinced that driven successful men are that way and they don't want to sit on the pouch and pet the dog, and I love my dogs. My SO is leaving in a couple weeks and I am working hard in the SB to set up meets. I guess the real difference today is the access we have to woman. Both pros and the SA type sites. And lets face it, previous civilizations did not have the ability to find young hot woman who want to fuck them. This is truly remarkable when you think about it. I guess my point is, how many men given this candy, could seriously say they would never think about doing it or actually doing it. Have been on SA for a little over a month. I can tell you what you already know, it's extremely ADDICTIVE. Especially for a man with my weaknesses. .Yeah, there are two ideas afoot here. Is SA addictive, or is the bowl? I've only done the latter for a few months, so I can't say. I do think SA is addictive. It just offers so much potential, I suppose b / c I am not seeing myself the way the SBs are. There are any number of ways they can shoot me down, actually. The only good thing is there are 5 of them for 1 of me, supposedly. I can see sugaring becoming addictive. I've posted earlier that if you have the $ and can get the wood, why wouldn't you be doing this? Truly, it's hard for me to believe that I've had the babies I have. I would *never* have gotten access to women like that if it weren't for SA. Reading old-timers posts, I guess the day will come that something else takes the place of SA, but that will presumably be b / c it's better. Guys used to score a lot of non-pro pussy on CL, but that is way old news.
FarFarAway
10-29-16, 00:56
I think deep down I want to stop also, and often question if it's worth it? With a SO, I also consider just going back to seeing the occasional pro. Which for me is a lot easier and less risky. But I guess that's just not the way we are wired as men. At least the type of men here, which I like for the most part. And I think most on this site are good decent guys who deep down really like woman and the sexual joy they can provide. My home life is sexless now but I am not sure that matters, because when I was younger (60 now) - my wife and I had a great time, she was super hot and all was good. But every time I was out of town, which was often, all I could think about was strange pussy and how to get it. And it has just carried on my entire life, I have never changed and probably never will, but yes I would probably take that pill also!
My guess is JZ that you are a very successful person and it's just the way you roll. But given your make up and as you say when you travel or your SO is away. Your not reading a book your on the prowl. I am convinced that driven successful men are that way and they don't want to sit on the pouch and pet the dog, and I love my dogs. My SO is leaving in a couple weeks and I am working hard in the SB to set up meets. I guess the real difference today is the access we have to woman. Both pros and the SA type sites. And lets face it, previous civilizations did not have the ability to find young hot woman who want to fuck them. This is truly remarkable when you think about it. I guess my point is, how many men given this candy, could seriously say they would never think about doing it or actually doing it. Have been on SA for a little over a month. I can tell you what you already know, it's extremely ADDICTIVE. Especially for a man with my weaknesses. .There are two questions afoot. Is the bowl addictive, or SA? I haven't been in long enough to know about the former, but I've said that as long as you have $ and the wood, why wouldn't you be doing it? I can't believe the pussy I've had in the short time I've been on, and I would *never* have had access to it otherwise. I am certain SA is addictive. Posted recently on that also. There is just so much potential, even though I can't envision all the ways a SB could shoot me down. There are 5 of them for every 1 of us, supposedly. It is a lot of effort not to get busted, and it takes away from employment, but luckily I have the time right now. If I got busy professionally, I'd really be grateful for one steady baby. I think I've found that girl and my bowl buddies are recommending I stick w / her. I agree, but I still can't stay off SA, and just tried to go back to a paid membership, b / c I see so many attractive SBs. Just a few days ago I had a bunch I was emailing with and I thought I was rolling in pussy. But different ones fall by the wayside for different reasons, and now I want more in my pipeline, and they're already identified on SA. I just need to msg them.
Yeah, there are two ideas afoot here. Is SA addictive, or is the bowl? I've only done the latter for a few months, so I can't say. I do think SA is addictive. It just offers so much potential, I suppose b / c I am not seeing myself the way the SBs are. There are any number of ways they can shoot me down, actually. The only good thing is there are 5 of them for 1 of me, supposedly. I can see sugaring becoming addictive..I can only speak for myself here, but for me it is the variety of pussy that's addictive, not actually using any particular website. Using SA for me is much like I used to use Match for dating, it's just a repetitive task that helps me get what I really want. I can see the use of the website actually becoming addictive for some, people do develop addictions around particular services (Facebook for example), where using that service and spending time on the Internet becomes either the habit itself or a big part of their habit.
To paint an analogy, if you watch some documentaries about the life of a drug addict, they often mention stealing to support their habit. But breaking into homes or shoplifting chills them to the bone, they dread the act of actually doing it, and fear that they will be either be shot or caught and placed in prison where they won't have access to their drug of choice. That's very different than a mental disorder or addiction to stealing itself (kleptomania or whatever), where the act of getting away with the theft is in itself the end game. I'm more like the drug addict case when it comes to SD sites.... I dread actually using the site searching for girls. Maybe I'm just burned out on that from years of online dating or whatever, but it is something I have to do if I want to line up girls in a destination town, not something I want to do.
I've posted earlier that if you have the $ and can get the wood, why wouldn't you be doing this? In my case two reasons, my SO and my frugal sensibilities:
I enjoy life more when my conscience is as clear as possible, and building a solid LTR with my SO is one of the biggest challenges I've ever had (way more difficult than getting random pussy) and I have a lot invested in that relationship, so it gives me strong incentive to keep sugar dating to a minimum or potentially stop one day.
Also, I'm a believer that availability of disposable income today does not necessary mean it should be disposed of carelessly. For me, that means that occasional dates where regular rules of spending are thrown to the wind for the sake of fleeting fun, but I would never want to do that every day. It's not untypical for me to spend much more on the date itself than the amount I gift the girl, this is because I see it as paying for a good time we will be sharing together. But, those dates can get pretty expensive, so doing it 3-4 nights a week is not in the realm of possibilities for me, living like that would bankrupt me. For those guys that are staying in cheaper hotels and limiting their expenditure to just paying the girl directly a couple of franklins or whatever, then I'd say that's a much easier budget to sustain, but even then at some point I would be thinking about how much that money could be earning me if it were invested, so full-time sugaring would disrupt my practical side too severely I'm afraid.
DrMcNaughty
10-29-16, 09:44
I think deep down I want to stop also, and often question if it's worth it? With a SO, I also consider just going back to seeing the occasional pro. Which for me is a lot easier and less risky. But I guess that's just not the way we are wired as men. At least the type of men here, which I like for the most part. And I think most on this site are good decent guys who deep down really like woman and the sexual joy they can provide. My home life is sexless now but I am not sure that matters, because when I was younger (60 now) - my wife and I had a great time, she was super hot and all was good. But every time I was out of town, which was often, all I could think about was strange pussy and how to get it. And it has just carried on my entire life, I have never changed and probably never will, but yes I would probably take that pill also!
My guess is JZ that you are a very successful person and it's just the way you roll. But given your make up and as you say when you travel or your SO is away. Your not reading a book your on the prowl. I am convinced that driven successful men are that way and they don't want to sit on the pouch and pet the dog, and I love my dogs. My SO is leaving in a couple weeks and I am working hard in the SB to set up meets. I guess the real difference today is the access we have to woman. Both pros and the SA type sites. And lets face it, previous civilizations did not have the ability to find young hot woman who want to fuck them. This is truly remarkable when you think about it. I guess my point is, how many men given this candy, could seriously say they would never think about doing it or actually doing it. Have been on SA for a little over a month. I can tell you what you already know, it's extremely ADDICTIVE. Especially for a man with my weaknesses. .For the most part all thanks to SA! It makes it all too easy!
When I first learned of these boards I was beginning my final pshych. Paper for college. The reason I chose this topic. I never thought to much about the hobbie itself. Often though maybe it could be legalized. Until MY best girlfriend of 20 years. Her family was destroyed. A great family that had it all with very good looking middle aged parents who had some extra $ and really took care of themselves. They got along great. The Mom (my second mom) is Beautiful and often is asked by strangers if she is the mom or the daughter. Well all it took was one broken condom to reveal what had been going on. He brought something home and she got sick.
The father is responsible for all the pain he has caused and he is more depressed with the mess he caused than the wife is about the divorse. I worry about him taking his life. Imagine daddys little girl who grows up into a georgous young women and now she hates you?
This began as a bachelor party OOOps, when he had something to drink and some buddies encouraging it. Then became an addiction that he hatred. He could not get out. I said each time he was never going to do this again and in 2-3 days he was on shopping again. He knew he was in addiction and he knew he was going to mess everything up, but could not stop. Its the addiction to chemicals released from the excitment and mostly from the risk! This is why guys get more risky over time. Please guys, be careful, wean down and reduce your habbit slowly if you want to get out.Wow. This is a fear that constantly nags me. That this hobby will take me down. I will ruin someone else's life and potentially take my own. Sometimes this random thought comes to me out of nowhere and I get extremely anxious.
Anyway, the good news for me is that I am slowly cutting back. Today is difficult. I have some cash on me, and some time on my hands, and I'm fairly backed up. All said, a lethal combination. I just continue to remind myself that the feeling does go away if I ignore it. Overall, I can say that I'm getting better at controlling my urges. With the exceptio and of going all out on my birthday (saw 2 different providers), I'm on day 15. The fantasies still haunt me, but so do the ideas of the consequences. There is hope that we can see the other side of this. Staying vigilant!
Liked your post a lot and you really hit on it with me when you mentioned the good old days and picking up women in bars. I was very addicted to that game once as well and loved the hunt / chase as you say. I am a tall guy - 6'5" - which never hurts with women and I had some game in my day. Loved going on the road back in those days, I guy could get laid almost any night. I can't believe what's in bars most nights today, looks more like a men's room. I think the AIDS thing early 80's is what really spoiled that party. Anyway, this SD / SB thing seems a bit of a carry over from that habit to this one.
Funny. Before I got into the sugar dating, I often tried to use the old game a bit on the road, going into higher end bars / restaurants for happy hour, that seems to be the only time you see many woman out anymore, at least the MILF's I was targeting. I was out a few week and looking around at an environment like just mentioned, think Bonefish Grill if you have one in your market, and the women I used to look at and think about hitting on just were not so appealing anymore. I mean all I could think of is why would I spend time and money chasing this when I can go dip in the sugar bowl and find a nice looking 20/30 something that I can screen in the looks dept and has none of the baggage of life that most of the 40+ ladies have and will fuck me senseless? Kind of nuts that we can do this but it's a very efficient online marketplace.
I also like your comment about "managing your addiction" and giving your self an occasional reward. I think that is where I am at these days. Let's face it, an obsession with anything, sex, food (which these days seems epidemic to me), alcohol, drugs, sports (same as food if you ask me), politics, religion. You name it, any of these can be a problem. Balance in your life is a good thing! And I know some on here want to get as much as possible out of the sugar bowl and more power to them. If single I would most likely do the same. But for me, given the time investment required. And my libido, I have decided that one or twice a month is going to be my goal and yes I have a SO, so view my comments from that perspective. Problem is my current SB wants to play two times a week at least and I know she's in it for the money just as I am it it for the sex, but she does have big O's with me which I love of course, and so not all bad on her end either. I like her but I guess the connection is mostly sexual. A little hard for me to always connect with a lady half my age, and the 30 year old mindset today is not the same as a 30 year old woman in my time. In this society, none of these millennials every have to grow up and that is not a good thing. So I am going to look for a SB that wants to meet maybe once or twice a month - 3 X at the most and of course is not BSC. I just don't have the time and energy for anything else. At least that's the plan today. Stay tuned.
It is certainly addictive. Although, it's a stop and go addiction for me. If I travel or the SO travels, I find myself bored and with a tendency toward mischief. The rest of the time, to be absolutely honest, I don't look forward to my next travel excursion, my SO's next trip, or my next SB meeting. In fact, every time I start my website accounts back up, I have to motivate myself to do so, because the process of searching for girls and filtering it down to the ones I want is a lot of work and a task I don't really look forward to.
This is one reason I have been seriously considering giving up SBs altogether, and maybe just sticking to the occasional hunt for strippers. I love the spontaneity of randomly going in a strip club and trying to line up some fun -- if it happens it happens but if not, then I just tell myself well I really shouldn't have been trying to do that anyway. The processing of hunting for, sorting, and arranging dates with SBs wears on my conscience a bit more and for that reason I am increasingly telling myself I should just try to stop. I sometimes wish the bar scene was like it was before the Internet, where easy women hung out in bars and clubs regularly instead of meeting people on computers and smartphones. Then, if you wanted to roll the dice you could just wander into one of these places and try to hook up a one night stand, the thrill of the hunt was the fun part. The bar scene has changed a lot now, online dating has reshaped how and why people go to these places as well as reshaping the places themselves. They aren't as good for spontaneous hookups as they used to be, while strip clubs still are what they are.
I actually seem to be getting closer to my SO the longer I'm with her. A good relationship takes a lot of time to build, only minutes to destroy, and a lot of people go through their entire lives without even having the chance at one. So why am I undermining one of the things in my life that's most important to me? I'm very happy with her so increasingly this hobby makes less sense for me.
I don't know. I have an increasing level of thoughts along these lines, I just hadn't really thought about airing them here at any level of detail, because I think it's not where most SDs are with this. A guy who is unsatisfied with his wife, for sexual reasons or any other, is in a very different place with all this than I am.
I've always thought one of the keys to effectively managing addictions (controlling them instead of them controlling you) is to not try to impose difficult rules upon yourself. For example, if someone wants to stay physically fit, then stay disciplined most of the time, but don't make hard rules like "I can never, ever eat sweets of any kind". By giving yourself an occasional well-managed reward, you relieve a certain amount of pressure and thus make it easier to maintain your discipline on the larger goal.
So I'm not 100% sure that formerly making a commitment to myself to stop is necessarily the right thing to do. If I thought it was, I probably would have already done it. It's something I'm still thinking about (a lot lately actually).
If you want to quit, here is some advice. And if you don't want to quit, that's ok, you may ignore this. Now, in practice I've never really quit, but I have managed to slow down or quit for long periods.
1. Be good at budgeting. It includes not only monthly expenses but yearly expenses for which you have to save. Understanding my budget was why I recently quit being a sugardaddy; the SB took too much. (I'll admit that being an SD is great if you can afford it.).
2. Keep a record of what you spend.
3. Throw away the burner phone! This simple idea has worked extremely well for me. I distinguish between "spontaneous" acts and "deliberate" acts. If it's super easy to contact a girl (SB), I'll do it when the mood strikes me. But if there's a barrier (the deliberate act) I can usually stop. Now, someone here will point out there are apps or websites that make it trivial to work around the need for a burner phone. I don't want to hear it, LOL. (Ignorance is bliss here.) Well, if you implement such a workaround it would require a deliberate act. By the way, jumping in the car to see a BP girl whose pic is most likely fake requires a deliberate act, which explains the complaints such girls have about guys getting cold feet.
4. Other misc ideas: have a curfew, avoid street prostitutes (easy since there are hardly any nowadays), don't mix alcohol or drugs with the pursuit of sex, and adhere to safe sex.
5. Best advice: get married or find a girlfriend.
6. Embrace getting old. I'm in my mid-50's and actually like slowing down.
GuyInTheCorner
11-21-16, 09:32
I know that I do this for the rush. That much is clear from the sense of guilt I typically have afterwards. And from the feeling of relief I often have when I take care of business myself before I have a chance to meet the POT SB and then cancel. I've stopped for weeks / months at a time but end up coming back.
Has anyone tried counseling? I'm so afraid of that mostly because of having to verbally confirm that I've cheated. Alternatively, is there a legitimate and reliable alternative to AA for sex addiction?
I quit smoking. This shouldn't be so damn hard.
Head First
11-27-16, 13:58
I quit smoking. This shouldn't be so damn hard.I used to bite my nails. Thank God I was able to quit. My life is better now.
I used to be addicted to nose spray. Thank God I was able to quit. My life is better now.
I used to be addicted to alcohol. Thank God I was able to quit. My life is better now.
I used to be addicted to drugs. Thank God I was able to quit. My life is better now.
I used to be addicted to cigarettes. Thank God I was able quit. My life is better now.
I used to be addicted to caffeine. Thank God I was able to quit. My life is better now.
This. This IS hard. But I'm not giving up. Just need more patience and wisdom.
There are plenty of folks out there that have quit this one and even tougher vices. One day I hope to say I was able to quit this one too.
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