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Didn't hear back on my prior ask. Anyone see Zen working at the boat recently? She's a spinner with dark hair usually there a couple days a week. I haven't seen her and wondering if she left or I am just missing her. She charges the higher rate of $30/ dance in the cabana room.No sign of her. My guess is she went back to Curves.
TucsonMonger
03-22-22, 18:18
No sign of her. My guess is she went back to Curves.In general the girls from curves do not transition well to the boat. Most expect to still make cash with out offering services. I'm not certain how many make money at curves since it is so hard to get any play there.
In general the girls from curves do not transition well to the boat. Most expect to still make cash with out offering services. I'm not certain how many make money at curves since it is so hard to get any play there.All I saw Zen do was stage dances and playing on her phone.
DirtyDeedsDone
03-23-22, 12:46
All I saw Zen do was stage dances and playing on her phone.It's funny when Curves girls go to Raiders they truly think that their shit doesn't stink. And they ask for a ridiculous price for the fun fun stuff. Most will work at Curves during the day and then come work at the Boat so that they don't have to pay a 2nd stage fee since they worked at Curves earlier.
TucsonMonger
03-23-22, 16:44
All I saw Zen do was stage dances and playing on her phone.That's all that many of them do these days. Although I must say it is a generational thing. GenZ being the worst. But alas as the strippers get older they phase out of the business.
WhiteSun777
03-23-22, 17:39
That's all that many of them do these days. Although I must say it is a generational thing. GenZ being the worst. But alas as the strippers get older they phase out of the business.That really grinds my gear. I had enough of this and was at Hi-Liter recently and saw a group of dancers just taking up space along the wall section (which is my favorite spot). I specifically asked to be seated there so the bouncer kicked them out. Felt good but yeah they did not like me that night. Which I didn't care.
TucsonMonger
03-23-22, 18:53
That really grinds my gear. I had enough of this and was at Hi-Liter recently and saw a group of dancers just taking up space along the wall section (which is my favorite spot). I specifically asked to be seated there so the bouncer kicked them out. Felt good but yeah they did not like me that night. Which I didn't care.So none of them sucked you're cock then?
All I saw Zen do was stage dances and playing on her phone.About 20 years ago I worked as a bouncer at pretty much every club there was. And, I can tell you, these girls who didn't work would whine and moan about how they didn't make any money that night. Such stupidity. Dancing is easy money, but you have to go out and get it. Amazing how something that requires such little effort on the part of the girls some of them still don't want to do.
When was the last time anyone saw pocahantas at the boat?The last time I saw her was about a year ago. She gave me good dances but wanted too high a price for her goodies. She is very submissive in my experience. I always ran into her on a Saturday or Sunday afternoon. Good luck.
Can confirm Genevieve is still going by Genevieve. Still blonde. Has new tits that cannot be played with yet, and is a little thicker than before. Says she will only be working occasionally, and her $$ was bad the day I saw her because she couldn't allow touching up top. So, =).
She may be Genevieve! But not sure. Well I guess I will have to take a visit to the boat during Thursday's to see if this girls of my old friends. Man Covid sure fucked this place up there were so many that did take out and enjoy. I guess times changed.
ChicaLovr22
03-25-22, 20:43
Can confirm Genevieve is still going by Genevieve. Still blonde. Has new tits that cannot be played with yet, and is a little thicker than before. Says she will only be working occasionally, and her $$ was bad the day I saw her because she couldn't allow touching up top. So, =).Nice to hear, did you ask about her sister? She was one good fuck too.
TucsonMonger
03-26-22, 09:47
Can confirm Genevieve is still going by Genevieve. Still blonde. Has new tits that cannot be played with yet, and is a little thicker than before. Says she will only be working occasionally, and her $$ was bad the day I saw her because she couldn't allow touching up top. So, =).Well unfortunate she got a tit job. Are they too big for her body?
WhiteSun777
03-29-22, 12:56
Friday night it was fairly busy with a lot of dancers.
Ashley.
Star.
Flo.
Ivy.
Soya.
Veronica.
Fantasy.
Iris.
Scarlett.
Nelly.
Rose.
Kira.
Rainbow.
Olivia.
Shelby.
Bri.
Cassidy.
Whitney.
Sunshine.
I only got dances from Nelly, Rose, and Whitney.
Whitney is the ONLY one that still charges $10 floor dance. The rest are usually $15 floor $30 VIP.
Nelly is petite but DDG, her floor dance is one of the better ones, I got mixed signals from her so I wasn't sure about taking her to VIP.
Rose was nothing to write home about.
Not much to report at Curves but my boat session was a different story.
ShakenGrind
03-29-22, 13:35
Rose is about the worst dancer I've come across. Conservative even by Curves of the 1990's standards.
Friday night it was fairly busy with a lot of dancers.
Ashley.
Star.
Flo.
Ivy.
Soya.
Veronica.
Fantasy.
Iris.
Scarlett.
Nelly..
Dropped by the boat and was greeted and treated by diamond.
Nice to see the CR is back in action again.
She can still work a cock!
TucsonMonger
03-30-22, 15:28
Dropped by the boat and was greeted and treated by diamond.
Nice to see the CR is back in action again.
She can still work a cock!Man I hope she is the tomorrow.
Puzzee Liquor
04-03-22, 22:33
The wife is out of town so I decided to go hit up Venom. I went in and asked if ok to sit up in upper area near DJ booth. John the bouncer told me fine to do so. I went to bar to get drink rather than wait on bartender / waitress to bring beverage. After sitting down I got approached by young thick Hispanic girl named Marisela (or similar). Cultural barrier prevented good communication. She gave dance then I asked about cabana. She told me thirty to house and twenty-five to her for cabana dances. I took a chance and got two. No bueno. She was too hyper for me. I said "mas despacio". No reaction. Then I asked her for her amiga. She came in and was nice spinner type. Name was Countess (Contessa). Again cultural barrier in communication. She gave three dances at twenty-five after I talked her back from $30. Again, not much action so quit after three dances. Went back out to seat and waited for a few and was approached by Chyna. Thicker ebony lady. Glad we were able to communicate. She gave dance outside cabana and then we moved to my cabana. Had five dances at 30 which first three were lackluster. Last two included mutual touching an BBFS. Very enjoyable. She enjoyed herself. I finished my drink and left shortly after. Good Night and Good Luck. PL.
WhiteSun777
04-04-22, 18:29
Got here Friday 10 minutes before they start charging cover at 6 pm. Bouncer recognized me from last time so that was nice. But of course I have an "unusual" name so that must be it. Seating is pretty much open I just picked the one next to a pillar near the main stage. Not a lot of dancers or customers, I looked around for a waitress but she's not here yet. Normally the bartender will come by but I see she's busy. After some waiting, I went up directly to the bartender to get a beer for $8 with tips (and so did this other guy seated nearby).
After scouting around, right away I recognized a dancer I've been avoiding. This is the dancer that wants me to give her a massage in VIP. She's got this weird personality. Not my cup of tea. But of course eventually she made her way around and found me, luckily she stopped briefly to make this weird comment and she was on her way (whew!
By now there's a lot more dancers and customers flowing in, and looks like the waitress is finally here.
Eventually Mia came by, now I'm not sure if this was a "pickup" line or what but she insisted that I look familiar. That she used to work at Hi-Liter but went by a different name (forgot now) but that was at least 4-5 years ago. But what are the odds she knows I go to Hi-Liter too? Unless she's a really good grifter. Long story short we "catchup", I got a floor dance for $10 that seems promising so I took her to VIP for $25/ song. It was fairly good but nothing to suggest extras otherwise.
I swear once dancers see you come out of VIP they're going to approach you. Sure enough a young (Cuban?) walked by but I didn't really understand what she's saying and she kept walking off as she thought I brushed her off. She went to another dude but he wasn't buying it so she came back around. Her English was a bit hard to understand sometimes but I told her let's try floor dance first as I always like to test the water before jumping in. Not even ½ a song in the bouncer is already signaling her to cut that shit up on the floor, she passed with flying colors. The VIP area isn't crowded (yet) but the side I was at earlier (corner) spot is taken so I went to the other side which is a bit more opened. Again ½ song in and when you know, you know she's good. She suggested CR which I never been before.
Once again she persuaded me in VIP to upgrade my status to CR. It was weird as she's a bit paranoid thinking I'm LE. A good amount of groping and kissing convinced her I'm not. Now the CR is NOT cheap, it's 30 minutes and $100 already goes to the house up front and $200 goes to her later. This is similar pricing I've paid in PHX clubs. The "Champagne Room" is really just a private booth (fairly small) that's on the other side of the club (near the bar area) and the emergency exit. Nice thing about the CR is no bouncer or waitress will walk in to bother you. Immediately she disrobed completely so I get a good view of her nice figure. I've removed my belt and unzipped to "prep" up so to speak. Extras were discussed and we agreed on the standard cleaning. By now I've realized how much I've written so I'll just cut to the chase. A lot of hand action, she's really good with her cleaning, I was able to explore quite a bit with my fingers and most importantly, a lot of passionate kissing, it was a very nice GFE in the 30 minutes we spent together. Afterwards digits were exchanged for possibility OTC action and she even spent another good 15 minutes with me on the floor just to chill. One of my best experiences at the boat to date. "I'll be back".
SumDumbFuk
04-05-22, 14:38
Got here Friday 10 minutes before they start charging cover at 6 pm. Bouncer recognized me from last time so that was nice. But of course I have an "unusual" name so that must be it. Seating is pretty much open I just picked the one next to a pillar near the main stage. Not a lot of dancers or customers, I looked around for a waitress but she's not here yet. Normally the bartender will come by but I see she's busy. After some waiting, I went up directly to the bartender to get a beer for $8 with tips (and so did this other guy seated nearby).
After scouting around, right away I recognized a dancer I've been avoiding. This is the dancer that wants me to give her a massage in VIP. She's got this weird personality. Not my cup of tea. But of course eventually she made her way around and found me, luckily she stopped briefly to make this weird comment and she was on her way (whew!
By now there's a lot more dancers and customers flowing in, and looks like the waitress is finally here.
Eventually Mia came by, now I'm not sure if this was a "pickup" line or what but she insisted that I look familiar. That she used to work at Hi-Liter but went by a different name (forgot now) but that was at least 4-5 years ago. But what are the odds she knows I go to Hi-Liter too? Unless she's a really good grifter. Long story short we "catchup", I got a floor dance for $10 that seems promising so I took her to VIP for $25/ song. It was fairly good but nothing to suggest extras otherwise.
I swear once dancers see you come out of VIP they're going to approach you. Sure enough a young (Cuban?) walked by but I didn't really understand what she's saying and she kept walking off as she thought I brushed her off. She went to another dude but he wasn't buying it so she came back around. Her English was a bit hard to understand sometimes but I told her let's try floor dance first as I always like to test the water before jumping in. Not even a song in the bouncer is already signaling her to cut that shit up on the floor, she passed with flying colors. The VIP area isn't crowded (yet) but the side I was at earlier (corner) spot is taken so I went to the other side which is a bit more opened. Again song in and when you know, you know she's good. She suggested CR which I never been before..Agreed, post was long. Missing a few important details. Helps to know did you pay more than the standard fees and a name would help.
ReadingPro
04-05-22, 18:53
Got here Friday 10 minutes before they start charging cover at 6 pm. Bouncer recognized me from last time so that was nice. But of course I have an "unusual" name so that must be it. Seating is pretty much open I just picked the one next to a pillar near the main stage. Not a lot of dancers or customers, I looked around for a waitress but she's not here yet. Normally the bartender will come by but I see she's busy. After some waiting, I went up directly to the bartender to get a beer for $8 with tips (and so did this other guy seated nearby).
After scouting around, right away I recognized a dancer I've been avoiding. This is the dancer that wants me to give her a massage in VIP. She's got this weird personality. Not my cup of tea. But of course eventually she made her way around and found me, luckily she stopped briefly to make this weird comment and she was on her way (whew!
By now there's a lot more dancers and customers flowing in, and looks like the waitress is finally here.
Eventually Mia came by, now I'm not sure if this was a "pickup" line or what but she insisted that I look familiar. That she used to work at Hi-Liter but went by a different name (forgot now) but that was at least 4-5 years ago. But what are the odds she knows I go to Hi-Liter too? Unless she's a really good grifter. Long story short we "catchup", I got a floor dance for $10 that seems promising so I took her to VIP for $25/ song. It was fairly good but nothing to suggest extras otherwise.
I swear once dancers see you come out of VIP they're going to approach you. Sure enough a young (Cuban?) walked by but I didn't really understand what she's saying and she kept walking off as she thought I brushed her off. She went to another dude but he wasn't buying it so she came back around. Her English was a bit hard to understand sometimes but I told her let's try floor dance first as I always like to test the water before jumping in. Not even a song in the bouncer is already signaling her to cut that shit up on the floor, she passed with flying colors. The VIP area isn't crowded (yet) but the side I was at earlier (corner) spot is taken so I went to the other side which is a bit more opened. Again song in and when you know, you know she's good. She suggested CR which I never been before.Not sure if its the same girl but I met a Cuban girl by the name Mauren she was very upfront Payed $140 in the VIP The number she gave me for OTC started with 214.
WhiteSun777
04-05-22, 20:15
Agreed, post was long. Missing a few important details. Helps to know did you pay more than the standard fees and a name would help.Not sure what the standard fee is, I'm fairly certain I've overpaid for Tucson standard. But it was definitely lower than what I would pay in Phoenix.
PM for the name, it's got something to do with the moon.
@ReadingPro, not Mauren, this one has a local 480 #
SumDumbFuk
04-07-22, 20:09
Not sure what the standard fee is, I'm fairly certain I've overpaid for Tucson standard. But it was definitely lower than what I would pay in Phoenix.
PM for the name, it's got something to do with the moon.
@ReadingPro, not Mauren, this one has a local 480 #Standard fees I was referencing what you said in the post, 100 to the house 200 to the girl. Was that it or a tip on top.
WhiteSun777
04-08-22, 01:21
Standard fees I was referencing what you said in the post, 100 to the house 200 to the girl. Was that it or a tip on top.Total damage was $350 for 1/2 hr tip included.
Didn't hear back on my prior ask. Anyone see Zen working at the boat recently? She's a spinner with dark hair usually there a couple days a week. I haven't seen her and wondering if she left or I am just missing her. She charges the higher rate of $30/ dance in the cabana room.Zen was at Raiders Reef today. I met Navi who was not up for much in the CR.
TucsonMonger
04-08-22, 19:33
Not sure what the standard fee is, I'm fairly certain I've overpaid for Tucson standard. But it was definitely lower than what I would pay in Phoenix.
PM for the name, it's got something to do with the moon.
@ReadingPro, not Mauren, this one has a local 480 #Ill always what one pays is never too high. It is a level that you are comfortable with and it is your money to spend as you desire. If you wouldn't mind pm me the name of this treat as well.
TucsonMonger
04-08-22, 19:44
Was at Venom the other day awaiting one of my faves, who was busy entertaining another client. While I waited for her to free up for a cabana visit, I sampled a few gals I am unfamiliar with and was hoping some of you fellows could offer any insight. Most notable were Stacy and Rain. Both gave excellent floor dances with groping and rubbing going both ways. I sort of assumed both would provide at least something in the cabanas based on the floor dances. However, I was there to pipe down a different dancer so I didn't go for it. Any fun had by any of you all with these two?
SumDumbFuk
04-08-22, 23:01
Zen was at Raiders Reef today. I met Navi who was not up for much in the CR.Oh, that's right Zen is there on Friday during the day usually. She told me that and I totally forgot it. I met here there on a Sunday. If you click with her there's lots of fun in the CR. Others told me she is not the easiest to click with.
Navi. She's a thin tall one if I recall. Agreed, she was no extras in the CR but I nice girl.
Thanks for the update.
AzHeadHunter
04-08-22, 23:34
Total damage was $350 for 1/2 hr tip included.And that's why I don't go to the titty bars for anything more than a beer or two and some scenery anymore.
I saw Pocahontas today. She allowed full roaming in the CR. I didn't bring enough cash to try for more.
Ikkyu Sojunn
04-11-22, 15:34
To all you salty dogs, I recently had info on our favorite lady of venom. She is recently back and trying out the straight and narrow. Hairdressing. Hope it works for her.
TucsonMonger
04-11-22, 16:17
To all you salty dogs, I recently had info on our favorite lady of venom. She is recently back and trying out the straight and narrow. Hairdressing. Hope it works for her.I'd prefer that she came back to the club to fuck me.
What happened to that place? The DJ is about the only thing happening there. Mostly dogs and you need Google translate to talk with the hot one. No biggie, but not worth it. YMMV.
Azsingle53
04-19-22, 09:46
Which club and what days does she work?
TucsonMonger
04-19-22, 13:21
Which club and what days does she work?To whom are you referring?
Which club and what days does she work?If you are asking about Pocahontas she works Saturday afternoon / evening at Raiders Reef.
TucsonMonger
04-20-22, 10:50
Has anyone experienced this young tight lighter skinned AA treat. Good floor dances but I had to head out before I could sample in the cabanas. She talked an ok story. Any info appreciated.
ShakenGrind
04-23-22, 21:18
Stopped by the boat, this afternoon, for the first time in a long time. Was hoping to see Diamond. Have heard so much about her. Unfortunately, she wasn't there. Buy I did get to meet Genevieve. She is absolutely gorgeous. Has the body of a goddess, and the sexual vibe to match it. Didn't go to the VIP room with her. The price she quoted, 0. 5, was awfully rich, though, it may well have been within the standard rate. But I got floor dances from her that blow away what I get from almost any dancer at Curves. Left completely satisfied.
ChicaLovr22
04-24-22, 20:25
Stopped by the boat, this afternoon, for the first time in a long time. Was hoping to see Diamond. Have heard so much about her. Unfortunately, she wasn't there. Buy I did get to meet Genevieve. She is absolutely gorgeous. Has the body of a goddess, and the sexual vibe to match it. Didn't go to the VIP room with her. The price she quoted, 0. 5, was awfully rich, though, it may well have been within the standard rate. But I got floor dances from her that blow away what I get from almost any dancer at Curves. Left completely satisfied.Who much did she quote you? Was that $50 per song or $500 to for service? 0. 5 does not sound right if she is quoting $50 per song she is out of her mind. I know she is a beautiful girl but she does tend to have some GPS. She has it before but 200 in the Champlain and a condom would get you to fuck her. Such a goofed times were before Covid. Get her load up she may become cheaper.
ShakenGrind
04-25-22, 07:23
$500 for the full package in the VIP.
Who much did she quote you? Was that $50 per song or $500 to for service? 0. 5 does not sound right if she is quoting $50 per song she is out of her mind. I know she is a beautiful girl but she does tend to have some GPS. She has it before but 200 in the Champlain and a condom would get you to fuck her. Such a goofed times were before Covid. Get her load up she may become cheaper.
ChicaLovr22
04-25-22, 17:11
$500 for the full package in the VIP.She is out of her fucking mind if she believes someone si going to pay her that much. Please let not find out someone has already done that shit here. That would be stupid I don't care if you can afford it nor if you think she is worth it. No girl at the club is worth 500 for half hour in the VIP. She gets 400 house gets 100. She is scamming people.
She is out of her fucking mind if she believes someone si going to pay her that much. Please let not find out someone has already done that shit here. That would be stupid I don't care if you can afford it nor if you think she is worth it. No girl at the club is worth 500 for half hour in the VIP. She gets 400 house gets 100. She is scamming people.Gone from GPS (golden) to BPS (bitcoin). Inflation.
SumDumbFuk
05-03-22, 11:28
She is out of her fucking mind if she believes someone si going to pay her that much. Please let not find out someone has already done that shit here. That would be stupid I don't care if you can afford it nor if you think she is worth it. No girl at the club is worth 500 for half hour in the VIP. She gets 400 house gets 100. She is scamming people.I don't think this is so crazy. Over my budget for sure but there are girls there asking these types of rates. I remember one of the calendar girls saying $500 for FS in the VIP room. Also one spinner started with 450 in the champagne room for raw FS. She must have been getting that rate because she was always taking guys into the champagne room. She was always back there for a while so it was not a one or two dance thing. I didn't agree to that rate but did go back for 30 a dance. Well worth it as it was raw and FS.
TucsonMonger
05-03-22, 18:11
I don't think this is so crazy. Over my budget for sure but there are girls there asking these types of rates. I remember one of the calendar girls saying $500 for FS in the VIP room. Also one spinner started with 450 in the champagne room for raw FS. She must have been getting that rate because she was always taking guys into the champagne room. She was always back there for a while so it was not a one or two dance thing. I didn't agree to that rate but did go back for 30 a dance. Well worth it as it was raw and FS.So 30 per dance for BBFS?
SumDumbFuk
05-03-22, 19:32
So 30 per dance for BBFS?Correct. Was my ATF.
ShakenGrind
05-03-22, 19:59
I don't think this is so crazy. Over my budget for sure but there are girls there asking these types of rates. I remember one of the calendar girls saying $500 for FS in the VIP room. Also one spinner started with 450 in the champagne room for raw FS. She must have been getting that rate because she was always taking guys into the champagne room. She was always back there for a while so it was not a one or two dance thing. I didn't agree to that rate but did go back for 30 a dance. Well worth it as it was raw and FS.My frame of reference is Curves. $300 seems to be the common VIP rate there. Perhaps more if she's a really popular dancer. And, for that price, you probably can't expect more than, hopefully, really good dances. So, the $500 price may have been a bit high. But probably not by too much.
According to their sites, Curves & the Boat no longer charge entrance fees. It looks like the VIP room at Curves now provides more privacy. Anybody been there recently.
Has anyone experienced this young tight lighter skinned AA treat. Good floor dances but I had to head out before I could sample in the cabanas. She talked an ok story. Any info appreciated.I have. She has an Airbnb near 22nd and Wilmot. About 5 minutes away.
Let me first say that I miss the old days, as in 5 - 15 years ago.
That being said I cannot believe that any woman, hot or not, has the hot pussy to ask for $300 or more for any type of full service in a CR or cabana. That's just BS and anyone here, regardless of your income, is a fool to pay it.
Rolled into venom recently and had some drunk spinner come to give me dances. I like petite women so I was game. We did a few and I asked about FS in the cabana and she quoted 3. I said for 3 I'd rather get a room so we can relax and enjoy one another. This apparently blew her mind and she copped an attitude. I said thanks darlin' here's your floor money and best of luck tonight.
Unique came by and we chatted. She's a sweet pro who reminded me of cj or carmen, as far as attitude. We had some dances and though she's not my body type, we rolled to the cabanas.
Very nice BBBJ and BBFS, the little brain took over, for 2 and no complaints from this old boy.
No signs of a need for penicillin.
She's a pro with a sweet attitude but fun.
Chances are you can negotiate a better rate.
Best of luck gents.
ChicaLovr22
05-05-22, 08:31
Let me first say that I miss the old days, as in 5 - 15 years ago.
That being said I cannot believe that any woman, hot or not, has the hot pussy to ask for $300 or more for any type of full service in a CR or cabana. That's just BS and anyone here, regardless of your income, is a fool to pay it.
Rolled into venom recently and had some drunk spinner come to give me dances. I like petite women so I was game. We did a few and I asked about FS in the cabana and she quoted 3. I said for 3 I'd rather get a room so we can relax and enjoy one another. This apparently blew her mind and she copped an attitude. I said thanks darlin' here's your floor money and best of luck tonight.
Unique came by and we chatted. She's a sweet pro who reminded me of cj or carmen, as far as attitude. We had some dances and though she's not my body type, we rolled to the cabanas.
Very nice BBBJ and BBFS, the little brain took over, for 2 and no complaints from this old boy.
No signs of a need for penicillin.
She's a pro with a sweet attitude but fun.
Chances are you can negotiate a better rate.
Best of luck gents.Great review and I am with you, I do not pay more than $200. If anyone wants to pay more because they believe they should more power to them it is just stupid. Keep blowing your money I am sure they ladies love them suckers.
Ikkyu Sojunn
05-05-22, 16:42
My frame of reference is Curves. $300 seems to be the common VIP rate there. Perhaps more if she's a really popular dancer. And, for that price, you probably can't expect more than, hopefully, really good dances. So, the $500 price may have been a bit high. But probably not by too much.
According to their sites, Curves & the Boat no longer charge entrance fees. It looks like the VIP room at Curves now provides more privacy. Anybody been there recently.Most of the girls I've had ask for 3 have come down significantly when pressed. Even to half that.
DirtyDeedsDone
05-05-22, 19:03
Most of the girls I've had ask for 3 have come down significantly when pressed. Even to half that.Most will start high but most are very negotiable. Some won't budge even a little. It's an industry where haggling is very justifiable. Good luck.
GarudaDarkblac
05-06-22, 20:18
I remember 10-15 years ago going to TD's East and paying $ to get access to the VIP room for the night and then. 25/ song to do whatever the girl of my choice (usually a hot big tittied red head) would allow (FS) for as little or as long as I wanted. I would usually walk out fully satisfied for $$ This was when I was a total newbie and didn't know about AMPs and when I did learn about AMPs I thought they only offered handys. I haven't asked for extras in the club for probably 7+ years since I can easily get 30-60 minutes of FS and a decent massage for $. 6- so when I see some of you talking about 3-5 $ for 30 minutes on a couch with little privacy it blows my mind. Granted the AMPs only offer Asian girls, almost exclusively middle aged and up, so the clubs offer a lot more variety, but from what I've been seeing lately there are very few girls at the club that attract my interest (I've mostly just been to the boat before 7 pm for cheaper drinks and staying until 9). Am I just too picky? I don't know, it just feels like the club isn't worth it anymore, or maybe it was never worth it and I was just too young, dumb, and full of cum to realize it. Perhaps some of you could provide some insight into why you prefer to get your action at the club and what is it you find appealing about it compared to an escort or AMP.
I remember 10-15 years ago going to TD's East and paying $ to get access to the VIP room for the night and then. 25/ song to do whatever the girl of my choice (usually a hot big tittied red head) would allow (FS) for as little or as long as I wanted. I would usually walk out fully satisfied for $$ This was when I was a total newbie and didn't know about AMPs and when I did learn about AMPs I thought they only offered handys. I haven't asked for extras in the club for probably 7+ years since I can easily get 30-60 minutes of FS and a decent massage for $. 6- so when I see some of you talking about 3-5 $ for 30 minutes on a couch with little privacy it blows my mind. Granted the AMPs only offer Asian girls, almost exclusively middle aged and up, so the clubs offer a lot more variety, but from what I've been seeing lately there are very few girls at the club that attract my interest (I've mostly just been to the boat before 7 pm for cheaper drinks and staying until 9). Am I just too picky? I don't know, it just feels like the club isn't worth it anymore, or maybe it was never worth it and I was just too young, dumb, and full of cum to realize it. Perhaps some of you could provide some insight into why you prefer to get your action at the club and what is it you find appealing about it compared to an escort or AMP.I cannot speak to anyone else's reasons, but I prefer the club for a specific reason. I would love to try out an AMP, but I have issues with psoriasis that makes me uneasy about stripping down in front of anyone unless it's dark. In the club I can just pull it out if / when it gets to that, but since those nasty red splotches that show themselves on inconvenient areas of my body, it's best I avoid the AMP. Psoriasis isn't contagious, but it is enough to keep the provider who sees it want to keep her distance. That's just my reasoning though.
I cannot speak to anyone else's reasons, but I prefer the club for a specific reason. I would love to try out an AMP, but I have issues with psoriasis that makes me uneasy about stripping down in front of anyone unless it's dark. In the club I can just pull it out if / when it gets to that, but since those nasty red splotches that show themselves on inconvenient areas of my body, it's best I avoid the AMP. Psoriasis isn't contagious, but it is enough to keep the provider who sees it want to keep her distance. That's just my reasoning though.I have had the same skin condition since I was 18. After yrs of going to a dermatologist got me nowhere. One day I spend to much time on my boat and got burnt. I noticed shortly after my patches were disappearing. I am now 60 and I hit the tanning beds at the gym now and I have no more psoriasis problems.
no more psoriasis problems.Possible help, but know that facts.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4374067/
I remember 10-15 years ago going to TD's East and paying $ to get access to the VIP room for the night and then. 25/ song to do whatever the girl of my choice (usually a hot big tittied red head) would allow (FS) for as little or as long as I wanted. I would usually walk out fully satisfied for $$ This was when I was a total newbie and didn't know about AMPs and when I did learn about AMPs I thought they only offered handys. I haven't asked for extras in the club for probably 7+ years since I can easily get 30-60 minutes of FS and a decent massage for $. 6- so when I see some of you talking about 3-5 $ for 30 minutes on a couch with little privacy it blows my mind. Granted the AMPs only offer Asian girls, almost exclusively middle aged and up, so the clubs offer a lot more variety, but from what I've been seeing lately there are very few girls at the club that attract my interest (I've mostly just been to the boat before 7 pm for cheaper drinks and staying until 9). Am I just too picky? I don't know, it just feels like the club isn't worth it anymore, or maybe it was never worth it and I was just too young, dumb, and full of cum to realize it. Perhaps some of you could provide some insight into why you prefer to get your action at the club and what is it you find appealing about it compared to an escort or AMP.The clubs here around that time were like nothing I've seen anywhere before or since. 2007-2008 was the peak. I miss that time.
TucsonMonger
05-13-22, 18:34
New girl going by Diamond at venom pretty nice natural body. Anyone gotten any play time out of her?
AzHeadHunter
05-13-22, 19:32
Most will start high but most are very negotiable. Some won't budge even a little. It's an industry where haggling is very justifiable. Good luck.I had one tell me 8 bills once. I laughed and said, "Just tell me no, don't try to play those kind of games. " She said, "Okay. No. But you wave that kind of money at me. Yes. " I suppose it was the same idea that I had when someone pressured me to buy one of my Harleys. I put a stupid high price tag on it because I didn't want to sell it.
Ikkyu Sojunn
05-13-22, 21:37
Stopped by venom around 8, full of older guys, a few really large girls but a lot of very good lookers. Tatiana was there and she looked amazing since she got back. Much better attitude too.
Later I hit the boat and found a smoking Italian woman, 30's similar body to Tatiana and she does play but a bit of gps.
FlyingGuy23
05-15-22, 11:14
This young lady is on seeking and says she is a dancer, have any of you had experience with her? Thanks.
DirtyDeedsDone
05-15-22, 15:24
This young lady is on seeking and says she is a dancer, have any of you had experience with her? Thanks.Nope. But that is defiantly defiantly Curves or Raiders locker room. I'm going with Curves since Raiders locker room is much much smaller.
Roy Folker
05-16-22, 12:06
$500 for the full package in the VIP.[Deleted by Admin] Hit up the websites, it's worth wading through all the fakes just to avoid such a fee that is guaranteed to give you that feeling of remorse afterwards when you realize how much of a waste of money that was. I've read this forum for years, I honestly believe most in here would tell that girl to go pound sand for $500.
Nope. But that is defiantly defiantly Curves or Raiders locker room. I'm going with Curves since Raiders locker room is much much smaller.I think about 6 months ago I got a first rate VIP experience from her at Raiders. 2 $ got me all access. Even a little backdoor that she seemed to enjoy more than I would expect.
ChicaLovr22
05-22-22, 23:19
Today I had some time so I started at the boat. No waitress so I had to get my own beer. Place had couple of girl nothing to brag about. Karen was there but she was busy giving handies to couple of old guys. Finished my beer and headed to venom. The first one to see me was Diamond, not the Diamond you think this one is a bit thicker but still sexy, pretty face and nice ass. She is friend and likes to talk. She did express she will not do anything but just dance on the cabanas. So two dances which were not too bad and passed. Then this other girl came by I forgot her name she is also AA but slim with a great body small tits a beautiful face with long black wig. She did have 3 inch nails that stood out from far away. She was very chatty and well verse. We did talk for like about an hour harps great conversation criticizing all other big dancers. We had couple of floor dances and she seem to be offering more so w stalk about price and agreed on good rate for an amazing time in there. Paid the man and off to the raises. Dam that girls was so hot, great BJ skills and with a very soft and tigh pussy. She rode me like no other she was wet and dripping so I know she enjoyed her self. We did doggie and I pounded that sexy ass like no other. We finished clean up and after that we talked for another while. She said she was from Phoenix and will let me know when she is back.
On my way out I saw Jeanette from the boat under the same name, gave her a dollar as she was on stage. She recognized me and exchange pleasantries. She got my number and said she would call me so we can arrange out call.
Will report when she call.
TucsonMonger
06-02-22, 21:55
Today I had some time so I started at the boat. No waitress so I had to get my own beer. Place had couple of girl nothing to brag about. Karen was there but she was busy giving handies to couple of old guys. Finished my beer and headed to venom. The first one to see me was Diamond, not the Diamond you think this one is a bit thicker but still sexy, pretty face and nice ass. She is friend and likes to talk. She did express she will not do anything but just dance on the cabanas. So two dances which were not too bad and passed. Then this other girl came by I forgot her name she is also AA but slim with a great body small tits a beautiful face with long black wig. She did have 3 inch nails that stood out from far away. She was very chatty and well verse. We did talk for like about an hour harps great conversation criticizing all other big dancers. We had couple of floor dances and she seem to be offering more so w stalk about price and agreed on good rate for an amazing time in there. Paid the man and off to the raises. Dam that girls was so hot, great BJ skills and with a very soft and tigh pussy. She rode me like no other she was wet and dripping so I know she enjoyed her self. We did doggie and I pounded that sexy ass like no other. We finished clean up and after that we talked for another while. She said she was from Phoenix and will let me know when she is back.
On my way out I saw Jeanette from the boat under the same name, gave her a dollar as she was on stage. She recognized me and exchange pleasantries. She got my number and said she would call me so we can arrange out call.
Will report when she call.Was her name Unique?
TucsonMonger
06-02-22, 22:00
Has lowered their private VIP areas back to $50 from the $100 they were asking a while back. Honestly almost prefer this to the Venom cabanas since they had changed the curtains up.
ChicaLovr22
06-02-22, 22:53
Was her name Unique?To be honest I don't recall but she may be that one. She was tall, slim nice hips and sexy ass with small tits. She wore a long hair wig and she had the longest nails I have ever seen on a girl at the club. She was all dolled up and look very pretty.
DirtyDeedsDone
06-06-22, 03:15
Was her name Unique?I had seen Jeanette a few times at the Boat in the VIP. She would always want more more and more for anything that we did. I stopped getting any dances from her because of it. One weekend my cousin came in to town and we went to the Boat. While I went in the restroom apparently Jeanette hanged him into the VIP before I could kiss of warn him ahead of time. As he was coming out she was yelling at him that he hadn't giving her enough money and got the manager involved in the conversation. He gave her an additional. 40 to basically shut the hell up. I felt bad for my cousin, a little since he should have waited for me to give him a but of a heads up, but he should have at least got a drink first. We decided to leave and go to Christie's since a dancer from the Christie's in Phoenix was suppose to be there dancing that he knew and adored. Short story when we got there she wasn't there and had drank too much the night before. He called her later and they met up for drinks and a hotel that she was staying at near the club and airport.
New girl going by Diamond at venom pretty nice natural body. Anyone gotten any play time out of her?I assume this is no the same Diamond at the Boat. Asking because maybe she switched clubs.
I assume this is no the same Diamond at the Boat. Asking because maybe she switched clubs.Definitely not. The Diamond from the Boat was there yesterday.
TucsonMonger
06-11-22, 09:29
I assume this is no the same Diamond at the Boat. Asking because maybe she switched clubs.Different Diamond altogether. Floor dances were descent but I had to depart before sampling behind the curtains.
TucsonMonger
06-11-22, 09:32
To be honest I don't recall but she may be that one. She was tall, slim nice hips and sexy ass with small tits. She wore a long hair wig and she had the longest nails I have ever seen on a girl at the club. She was all dolled up and look very pretty.Unique is pretty short. But she gives good head and has one of the softest pussies.
TucsonMonger
06-11-22, 09:33
Kim at the venom club recently?
ChicaLovr22
06-11-22, 13:51
Different Diamond altogether. Floor dances were descent but I had to depart before sampling behind the curtains.I had a chance to talk to her and have some dances. Dances were very good but she did tell me she would not do anything behind curtains except for dances, so I let her leave. That's when this AA girl came by and we had fun. I guess it was not unique as this girl was tall and slender with nice curves.
LawDawg1120
06-12-22, 00:39
I had a chance to talk to her and have some dances. Dances were very good but she did tell me she would not do anything behind curtains except for dances, so I let her leave. That's when this AA girl came by and we had fun. I guess it was not unique as this girl was tall and slender with nice curves.Hey chika did that aa have lepard tattoos or roses on her?
Kim at the venom club recently?Last time I was in Venom was three weeks ago. Kim was there late on Sat afternoon.
ChicaLovr22
06-12-22, 10:10
Hey chika did that aa have lepard tattoos or roses on her?Hard to remember, I think but not sure she may had a leopard tattoo. But I am not 100 % sure. When I saw her was about 3 weeks ago.
LawDawg1120
06-12-22, 17:13
Hard to remember, I think but not sure she may had a leopard tattoo. But I am not 100 % sure. When I saw her was about 3 weeks ago.If she had that lepard tattoo on her shoulder tall skinny with a tit job her name is rose.
LawDawg1120
06-12-22, 17:21
Hard to remember, I think but not sure she may had a leopard tattoo. But I am not 100 % sure. When I saw her was about 3 weeks ago.Was this her chica?
TucsonMonger
06-12-22, 23:53
Was this her chica?Well this one doesn't look too AA but damn that's a nice body. Who is she?
ChicaLovr22
06-13-22, 08:23
Was this her chica?No that was not the girl I saw, that one is one dish though. The one I saw was AA tall, slim, long fake hair I know because I grave her head when she was giving head and felt the clips, she had the longest fake nails I ever saw on a stripper.
DirtyDeedsDone
06-13-22, 10:52
Was this her chica?Is this the Rose that use to work at Raiders? She looks great now, new hair dew too.
Ikkyu Sojunn
06-15-22, 19:21
Fair number of girls, few guys.
Floor dances with Passion-50 why / o face, 20 why / o body. Great dances but no extras.
Next cr with Selina-40 something thick Latina good curves, FS offer but she was a disaster. She was such a spam she couldn't get anything done and demand 2 for the effort. I wonder if she has ever had sex or if she just saw a video.
DirtyDeedsDone
06-15-22, 20:50
Fair number of girls, few guys.
Floor dances with Passion-50 why / o face, 20 why / o body. Great dances but no extras.
Next cr with Selina-40 something thick Latina good curves, FS offer but she was a disaster. She was such a spam she couldn't get anything done and demand 2 for the effort. I wonder if she has ever had sex or if she just saw a video.If I hear one more person on here complaining about getting dances from Selina, I'm going to say that it's.
Your own fault for getting burnt by her. We've spoken about her on many many occasions. Just don't do it. Eventually you might get what you initially wanted but the price will change. She's been in the industry way way too long and has done many men wrong over the years. But it seems that there is an unlimited amount of men she can screw over. Come on gentlemen play it smart.
ShakenGrind
06-15-22, 21:57
I remember her from Curves all the way back in 2003. Didn't even look good then. She must be in her 50's by now.
If I hear one more person on here complaining about getting dances from Selina, I'm going to say that it's.
Your own fault for getting burnt by her. We've spoken about her on many many occasions. Just don't do it. Eventually you might get what you initially wanted but the price will change. She's been in the industry way way too long and has done many men wrong over the years. But it seems that there is an unlimited amount of men she can screw over. Come on gentlemen play it smart.
Ikkyu Sojunn
06-15-22, 22:30
If I hear one more person on here complaining about getting dances from Selina, I'm going to say that it's.
Your own fault for getting burnt by her. We've spoken about her on many many occasions. Just don't do it. Eventually you might get what you initially wanted but the price will change. She's been in the industry way way too long and has done many men wrong over the years. But it seems that there is an unlimited amount of men she can screw over. Come on gentlemen play it smart.You're not wrong. I should have known better but didn't connect her to the reports till too late.
Ikkyu Sojunn
06-16-22, 05:34
After errands I hit venom, good crowd, Kim Jamaica and Tatiana of note. One or two big girls but mainly hwp thick or athletic. Took Jamaica to the back as Tatiana was perpetually busy.
Later hit the boat and it was packed but with why.
The skinny curves girls that have no interest in customers.
It seems like venom is returning to the status of goto monger hangout. The boat seems full of scammers and GPS girls but the girls of venom seem to have more respect for their customers and willingness to be reasonable.
DirtyDeedsDone
06-16-22, 06:49
After errands I hit venom, good crowd, Kim Jamaica and Tatiana of note. One or two big girls but mainly hwp thick or athletic. Took Jamaica to the back as Tatiana was perpetually busy.
Later hit the boat and it was packed but with why.
The skinny curves girls that have no interest in customers.
It seems like venom is returning to the status of goto monger hangout. The boat seems full of scammers and GPS girls but the girls of venom seem to have more respect for their customers and willingness to be reasonable.I believe that there has been a sudden realization that the ladies are starting to realize that we are in a recession. The smart ones will adapt to the.
Times are hard for the moment and be a bit more accommodating on their outrageous amounts that they want to charge and settle for a little less. I usually go earlier in the week and let then know that I won't get paid until Friday for the larger amount that I'll have to give them instead of that day. Most will settle for the lesser amount at that very moment instead of having to wait till Friday.
TucsonMonger
06-21-22, 15:53
Has anyone taken this one into the champagne room? Met her late into my visit this last weekend so I really couldn't partake. I had already taken Diamond to the private area and she sure as hell wore me out.
Ikkyu Sojunn
06-23-22, 00:39
Hit the boat early and it was packed. Girls desperate for rent money. Diamond, amor, Karen bambi plus an army of girls I don't know.
Hit venom later, no guys and few girls but the girls they had were amazing. Kim was present and was our long lost royce.
TucsonMonger
06-23-22, 05:23
Hit the boat early and it was packed. Girls desperate for rent money. Diamond, amor, Karen bambi plus an army of girls I don't know.
Hit venom later, no guys and few girls but the girls they had were amazing. Kim was present and was our long lost royce.Once upon a time Royce was one of my favorite cum buckets. She would be so high when she was at the club. Now that I see their names together I need to get a threesome with them.
Didn't Royce have a sister who danced too?
I stopped in. Diamond, Sadie, and the dreaded Selina were there. I saw several I don't know. Love sat in my lap but if thet ask $30 for the Champagne dances I just say no.
TucsonMonger
06-23-22, 21:40
I stopped in. Diamond, Sadie, and the dreaded Selina were there. I saw several I don't know. Love sat in my lap but if thet ask $30 for the Champagne dances I just say no.So now with Sadie, does she play the way she did in days of old at the Candy Store. I had read I thought some time back that she suffers GPS.
TucsonMonger
06-23-22, 21:48
If I hear one more person on here complaining about getting dances from Selina, I'm going to say that it's.
Your own fault for getting burnt by her. We've spoken about her on many many occasions. Just don't do it. Eventually you might get what you initially wanted but the price will change. She's been in the industry way way too long and has done many men wrong over the years. But it seems that there is an unlimited amount of men she can screw over. Come on gentlemen play it smart.She is one that is not a quitter, she will plop at your table and not even care if you tell her you are waiting on someone. "I'll leave when then show up" will be her answer and of course few dancers, who don't know you well, will sit down at your table with another dancer already there. I will admit though a few months back she offered, and delivered, to suck my cock for cost of dances only. Three songs later I rounded it up to 4 jacksons after I busted in her mouth.
Ikkyu Sojunn
06-24-22, 00:44
Once upon a time Royce was one of my favorite cum buckets. She would be so high when she was at the club. Now that I see their names together I need to get a threesome with them.
Didn't Royce have a sister who danced too?Yes, Star but she's out of the business due to MS.
TucsonMonger
06-24-22, 00:53
Yes, Star but she's out of the business due to MS.Thats right. Old Star from Venom. Wasn't aware she had MS, I figured she got dropped a bunch of cash from ol StripperLuv when he passed away. He had been setting her up pretty nice since 2019.
Mona (AA girl) was at the boat this afternoon. Said she only occasionally stops by. Had a couple of dances and it appeared that extras might be available. I had to leave so didn't have time to ask more questions. Anybody have any experience with her?
Ikkyu Sojunn
06-24-22, 10:26
Thats right. Old Star from Venom. Wasn't aware she had MS, I figured she got dropped a bunch of cash from ol StripperLuv when he passed away. He had been setting her up pretty nice since 2019.That could be too.
DirtyDeedsDone
06-24-22, 11:28
That could be too.I think that the majority would have helped Star if they truly had the extra means to do so. She was a fun time and in most cases would literally fulfill most men's wants and needs. No need to go out and search for something when she would do what most men's desires were or are. Fun times. I recently saw her ex and will ask him about her when I see him again.
PoopSnicker
06-24-22, 12:10
That could be too.Sorry to hear aboutBrittany / Star.
Stopped by venom, dead dead dead. So headed over to the Boat. The plopped Selena plopped down next to me and was telling me stories and rubbing on me trying to get me to engage. Told her I wasn't feeling great so didn't want any dances and she took off to find some other sucker. Boy, she's looking bigger in not a good way.
Then sitting there and this bleached blond comes up and asks if she can sit with me. Hell yeah! She was smoking hot! Really nice implants and a sizzling body. So here's where I need help. She introduced herself as Genevieve from Vera Cruz. Is this the mythical Genevieve I've read about here on the forum. She asked me to go to champagne room but wasn't sure it was her and declined. Did I screw up? She gave me three really fantastic dances at the table. She says she comes for two weeks a month and dances Thursday / Friday / Saturday when she's here. If she's not the one mentioned here, you should still rush there and experience her. OMG I'm in love.
TucsonMonger
06-25-22, 22:46
Stopped by venom, dead dead dead. So headed over to the Boat. The plopped Selena plopped down next to me and was telling me stories and rubbing on me trying to get me to engage. Told her I wasn't feeling great so didn't want any dances and she took off to find some other sucker. Boy, she's looking bigger in not a good way.
Then sitting there and this bleached blond comes up and asks if she can sit with me. Hell yeah! She was smoking hot! Really nice implants and a sizzling body. So here's where I need help. She introduced herself as Genevieve from Vera Cruz. Is this the mythical Genevieve I've read about here on the forum. She asked me to go to champagne room but wasn't sure it was her and declined. Did I screw up? She gave me three really fantastic dances at the table. She says she comes for two weeks a month and dances Thursday / Friday / Saturday when she's here. If she's not the one mentioned here, you should still rush there and experience her. OMG I'm in love.Well that certainly sounds like her. I fear you have missed out on an exceptional opportunity to have her wildly fuck you and rock your world.
Sitting in venom and not much action. Hope springs eternal. Was at the boat and met a dancer named Ava. Really nice body longish black hair and great dances. So great I went to the champagne room. Dances were $30 each and she said tips were welcome. She blew my mind. And we're making plans to meet OTC. Also met Aniyah, very tall black dancer and so thick. Big tits big ass and really great poor dances. Already shot my wad of cash but she said she would blow my mind too. She trav so back and forth to LA and is going to do some porn with Brazzers. I highly recommend both.
BillyFish1
07-01-22, 13:32
Well that certainly sounds like her. I fear you have missed out on an exceptional opportunity to have her wildly fuck you and rock your world.How dirty does Selena get? Went to the boat a couple of days ago and she tried hard to get me to the back telling me it would be well worth it. I was in a hurry so didn't go. Just curious if it is worth it to take her to the back?
TucsonMonger
07-01-22, 15:10
Sitting in venom and not much action. Hope springs eternal. Was at the boat and met a dancer named Ava. Really nice body longish black hair and great dances. So great I went to the champagne room. Dances were $30 each and she said tips were welcome. She blew my mind. And we're making plans to meet OTC. Also met Aniyah, very tall black dancer and so thick. Big tits big ass and really great poor dances. Already shot my wad of cash but she said she would blow my mind too. She trav so back and forth to LA and is going to do some porn with Brazzers. I highly recommend both.For 30 a dance did she blow your cock as well as your mind?
TucsonMonger
07-01-22, 15:20
So this girl is dancing for me this week and keep talking up take out to me. Says she has an incall apartment central town. Now I have fucked her at the club before but has anyone played otc with her? Worth the time or cash. Good or better experience than at the club?
How dirty does Selena get? Went to the boat a couple of days ago and she tried hard to get me to the back telling me it would be well worth it. I was in a hurry so didn't go. Just curious if it is worth it to take her to the back?A lot of people hate on Selena but I have enjoyed my times with her. She is a full service gal who will ask high but will settle for a reasonable amount of dances and a tip in the VIP. This will cover the desired experience. Just reply to her offer with a courteous counter and you will both be happy.
DirtyDeedsDone
07-01-22, 23:46
A lot of people hate on Selena but I have enjoyed my times with her. She is a full service gal who will ask high but will settle for a reasonable amount of dances and a tip in the VIP. This will cover the desired experience. Just reply to her offer with a courteous counter and you will both be happy.A lot of people "hate" on Selena because she's done a lot of people wrong. Her tactics at getting what she wants are horrible. I've experienced. My friend's have experienced it and many many here have spoken these words as well. But YMMV. Sadly it's like we're all saying she's done many of us wrong but some will defend like you and some will still question what she offers even though many have spoken against her. I say go for it. Your mileage may vary. Good luck to you hoping the your experience is better then ours. Hopefully she's read the board and possibly changed her horrible ways after many many years. I'm hoping that it's effected her negatively so she can make the correct and positive adjustments.
For 30 a dance did she blow your cock as well as your mind?I left happy. YMMV
Raiders was packed with dancers. Rent is due. Most of them I didn't recognize. Familiar faces were Karen, Phoenix, and Selina.
Been trying to keep up with all the names over the past couple of months, but not to the point I've put together an excel spread sheet yet. Hitting Tucson for the first time in probably 18 or 20 years next weekend. Raiders, Curves and Venom seem to be the main stops. I've seen some names that I'll want to avoid, so thanks to the various contributors for that info.
I'm looking for younger (under 30) petite (5' or so and 110 or less) and non-mommy dancers who seem to be a pretty good bet for extra fun behind the curtains or doors. Obviously, I realize that nothing is 100% (or even 75%) sure, but I would love suggestions, if you have any, with the understanding that YMMV. Looks like Sunday, and maybe Monday will be my opportunities.
It's one of the 2 times per year I have the chance to hit the clubs, so I'm not overly budget conscious. It's like going to the baseball game, I understand 2 beers is going to cost me what a case would cost me in the supermarket, and I'm fine with that.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions / warnings.
Been trying to keep up with all the names over the past couple of months, but not to the point I've put together an excel spread sheet yet. Hitting Tucson for the first time in probably 18 or 20 years next weekend. Raiders, Curves and Venom seem to be the main stops. I've seen some names that I'll want to avoid, so thanks to the various contributors for that info.
I'm looking for younger (under 30) petite (5' or so and 110 or less) and non-mommy dancers who seem to be a pretty good bet for extra fun behind the curtains or doors. Obviously, I realize that nothing is 100% (or even 75%) sure, but I would love suggestions, if you have any, with the understanding that YMMV. Looks like Sunday, and maybe Monday will be my opportunities.
It's one of the 2 times per year I have the chance to hit the clubs, so I'm not overly budget conscious. It's like going to the baseball game, I understand 2 beers is going to cost me what a case would cost me in the supermarket, and I'm fine with that.
Thanks in advance for any suggestions / warnings.I would suggest Kim at Venom as a candidate.
TucsonMonger
07-03-22, 08:47
Raiders was packed with dancers. Rent is due. Most of them I didn't recognize. Familiar faces were Karen, Phoenix, and Selina.I love when rent is due!
MongerLuv69
07-05-22, 03:36
Have been getting FS at several local massage spas for about a year. Up for something different. Went to the Strip club gorum and read a lot of posts Went to Raiders last Tuesday. Met nice dancer. She hits my buttons. Did VIP dance for $25.
Went back on Sat and did another VIP dance with much better touching.
Talked about FS and AMP. Wanted to know if that is available. She hinted yes. Planning on going to ask her for BBBJ price tomorrow. Also she seemed ok meeting outside for FS. Hope she does not have GPS when I increase my activity with her.
She has great real tits and is not a twenty something. We can talk English together. Hoping to have long term play toy with her.
Ikkyu Sojunn
07-05-22, 05:17
Have been getting FS at several local massage spas for about a year. Up for something different. Went to the Strip club gorum and read a lot of posts Went to Raiders last Tuesday. Met nice dancer. She hits my buttons. Did VIP dance for $25.
Went back on Sat and did another VIP dance with much better touching.
Talked about FS and AMP. Wanted to know if that is available. She hinted yes. Planning on going to ask her for BBBJ price tomorrow. Also she seemed ok meeting outside for FS. Hope she does not have GPS when I increase my activity with her.
She has great real tits and is not a twenty something. We can talk English together. Hoping to have long term play toy with her.Names help.
MongerLuv69
07-05-22, 17:39
Names help.Jules age 39 big tits. What is the book on he services and costs?
SumDumbFuk
07-07-22, 19:16
Not sure if there is much interest in Zen. Just found out today she has an * page. She's expensive but she seems to like what she does.
Not sure if there is much interest in Zen. Just found out today she has an * page. She's expensive but she seems to like what she does.Navi has an OF.
SumDumbFuk
07-08-22, 08:59
Navi has an OF.Zen is actually providing some good porn. Does Navi do that too? My experience with Navi in the club was no extras at all.
Zen is actually providing some good porn. Does Navi do that too? My experience with Navi in the club was no extras at all.I had the same experience in the club. Her OF is pretty hard-core with anal and bdsm.
BillyFish1
07-08-22, 15:37
I had the same experience in the club. Her OF is pretty hard-core with anal and bdsm.How do I find their OF account?
PoopSnicker
07-11-22, 11:15
Not sure if there is much interest in Zen. Just found out today she has an * page. She's expensive but she seems to like what she does.And what is * ?
Names help.Curious if you where able to connect with Jules? I'm interested in meeting outside the club with her, Would rather have a more direct way of contacting her in my opinion any further info would be appreciated. Thanks PM if preferred. Thanks.
DirtyDeedsDone
07-11-22, 15:19
And what is * ?Most likely a * page like 90% plus of strippers and escorts now. That's why less of the really pretty girls posting and showing up at the strip clubs. Things are defiantly a changing for the worst.
SumDumbFuk
07-12-22, 08:21
And what is * ?Not allowed to post the actual link I guess so an admin bleeped it out. * is OF. You'll have to do a little work to figure that out or PM someone.
I just got back from a once in a decade trip to Tucson. Toured 3 of the clubs. Unfortunately, since my buddy was time-constrained, we did not get to hit the peak times. Started with Venom at Noon. 2 really fat dancers, so we bolted after a beer. Hit Raiders Reef at about 1. 6-7 dancers that I could see, none of them attractive. The waitress was an 8, but the best dancer was about a 5-6. Gone after 2 beers. Again, very early Monday afternoon, so may not be typical.
Finally stopped at CURVES and spent about an hour there. Good looking crowd, more than 10 girls appeared to be available. Mostly slim and fit and generally a 7 to almost 8 in looks. (My scale is probably different than yours, in that I like petite, young, could still pass for a 21 year old cheerleader / dance team type).
Kind of a dark club. No cover for us, but doorman did wave the wand over us. Music was quiet enough to have conversation. Didn't pay attention to the price of drinks, but it was 2 for 1 when we were there, and I never quibble over 5 bucks for anything at a strip club.
We tend to sit at the bar, which helps avoid unwanted attention. If we see somebody we like, we make eye-contact, tip at the stage and ask them over, or ask waitress to help get the dancers attention.
A fairly tall, dirty blond with a name that starts with T, was getting my friends attention, but then ended up sitting next to me at the bar. After 10 minutes of light conversation (during which she mentioned that she never actually gets on the stage) we agreed to hit the VIP area. $30/ song. She was very fit, probably mid-to-late 20's, guessing 5'6 or 7 with-out heels and looked to be under 120 pounds. Slender and none of that Phat, Fat, you're damm near obese flabby ass. It was very toned and solid. Smaller, natural boobs with great nips. Small areola and nips popped nicely. No muffin top, very flat stomach, which I love.
Went back and got unlimited access to boobs, butt and stomach (upper and lower areas) immediately. At one point, asked her if I could touch her over the G-String and she thanked me for asking and said "No problem". Spent songs #3-4 rubbing her nub OTC while she ground on me while facing me. By song 4, she had lowered G-string to as far as it could go with-out actually showing vagina. She acted as if she was truly enjoying it, and I know I was. I also felt like that was probably her limit and I knew I was running up against my buddies time-line, so we stopped there. Gave her a $20 tip.
Ideally, in my perfect world, you get sex, a HJ, or at least a wet finger in the VIP. That didn't happen, and even though there was no spectacular finish, I felt it was absolutely time well spent and would definitely go back with her again.
My buddy, who goes there every other week or so in the early afternoon, but rarely does VIP dances, felt that I may have gotten an above average experience for that club.
Unfortunately and usually, when I'm in Arizona, it's strictly in Phoenix, for spring training. So I'm not sure when I'll get the chance to check out Tucson again.
Get her while she's hot. This is her fourth day working, she's built and beautiful and doesn't know what's she's worth. Let her name her price and you'll be pleasantly surprised! Took us several minutes to get it in she's so tight!
PoopSnicker
07-16-22, 18:05
Get her while she's hot. This is her fourth day working, she's built and beautiful and doesn't know what's she's worth. Let her name her price and you'll be pleasantly surprised! Took us several minutes to get it in she's so tight!Please describe this beauty.
Please describe this beauty.White girl, twenty something, nice natural boobs, nice handful of ass, beautiful brunette.
AzHeadHunter
07-17-22, 02:48
I just got back from a once in a decade trip to Tucson. Toured 3 of the clubs. Unfortunately, since my buddy was time-constrained, we did not get to hit the peak times. Started with Venom at Noon. 2 really fat dancers, so we bolted after a beer. Hit Raiders Reef at about 1. 6-7 dancers that I could see, none of them attractive. The waitress was an 8, but the best dancer was about a 5-6. Gone after 2 beers. Again, very early Monday afternoon, so may not be typical.
Finally stopped at CURVES and spent about an hour there. Good looking crowd, more than 10 girls appeared to be available. Mostly slim and fit and generally a 7 to almost 8 in looks. (My scale is probably different than yours, in that I like petite, young, could still pass for a 21 year old cheerleader / dance team type).
Kind of a dark club. No cover for us, but doorman did wave the wand over us. Music was quiet enough to have conversation. Didn't pay attention to the price of drinks, but it was 2 for 1 when we were there, and I never quibble over 5 bucks for anything at a strip club.
We tend to sit at the bar, which helps avoid unwanted attention. If we see somebody we like, we make eye-contact, tip at the stage and ask them over, or ask waitress to help get the dancers attention.
A fairly tall, dirty blond with a name that starts with T, was getting my friends attention, but then ended up sitting next to me at the bar. After 10 minutes of light conversation (during which she mentioned that she never actually gets on the stage) we agreed to hit the VIP area. $30/ song. She was very fit, probably mid-to-late 20's, guessing 5'6 or 7 with-out heels and looked to be under 120 pounds. Slender and none of that Phat, Fat, you're damm near obese flabby ass. It was very toned and solid. Smaller, natural boobs with great nips. Small areola and nips popped nicely. No muffin top, very flat stomach, which I love.
Went back and got unlimited access to boobs, butt and stomach (upper and lower areas) immediately. At one point, asked her if I could touch her over the G-String and she thanked me for asking and said "No problem". Spent songs #3-4 rubbing her nub OTC while she ground on me while facing me. By song 4, she had lowered G-string to as far as it could go with-out actually showing vagina. She acted as if she was truly enjoying it, and I know I was. I also felt like that was probably her limit and I knew I was running up against my buddies time-line, so we stopped there. Gave her a $20 tip.
Ideally, in my perfect world, you get sex, a HJ, or at least a wet finger in the VIP. That didn't happen, and even though there was no spectacular finish, I felt it was absolutely time well spent and would definitely go back with her again.
My buddy, who goes there every other week or so in the early afternoon, but rarely does VIP dances, felt that I may have gotten an above average experience for that club.
Unfortunately and usually, when I'm in Arizona, it's strictly in Phoenix, for spring training. So I'm not sure when I'll get the chance to check out Tucson again.Cool story, Bro. Ya got ripped off. Better luck next time. Hint. Phoenix sucks in every way imaginable, not just the ways discussed on here. But it sucks in those ways too.
I was feeling nostalgic for the glory days of strip clubs in Tucson and was reading some old posts this morning. I can't help but think that Sexhobbyist posting in the forum was a big driver for what the Candystore eventually became in the 2008 time frame. Action was always available, but in the couple of years after he started posting it was just something else. He posted a few guides with great guidance that I am going to bring back to the top of the forum for anyone who was not around at the time. They were written 15 years ago but the advice is solid and has always held up.
Sexhobbyist's strip club guide, part 1: the dancers
A trip to your local strip club is meant to be a good time. The beer is cold, the women are pretty and generally speaking you can relax and let your hair down a bit. The dancers, the entertainment staff, know this. They understand that their job is to make even the most repulsive, ill mannered and just plain idiotic man feel welcome and comfortable. Here are a few things you, the dancers, can do (or not do) that will make this whole process easier for everyone.
Personal hygiene.
Do not be the dancer that smells bad. If you had garlic and onions for lunch, don't come to work. Have you used deodorant in the last twelve hours? Do a quick check. Do you have mints handy? Have you washed your hands thoroughly? Don't even think of throwing that coochie in my direction if it reeks. Some of you like to rub that thang all in my face until I can whiff out the brand of TP you're using. Don't do it without a little personal hygiene first. Get rid of that funky pole smell. Nothing smells as bad as stale pussy.
Still on the subject of hygiene, wash your chest, the whole chest, after the entire audience has seen you let customers drool, slobber, and lick your boobs and nipples for a $1 on stage. No man wants to go where other men have left their saliva.
After you leave the VIP, always head to the restroom to freshen up. You dancers that walk out of the VIP and into the lap of a customer need to know that we're watching you and it's a chilling thought to be that close to so much DNA not your own.
Wardrobe and appearance.
Do not cover up your most attractive asset. I can't tell you how many times a dancer chooses to look good (in her eyes) rather than make money by her wardrobe choices. If you've got nice legs, don't wear long-legged dresses or pants. If you've got nice boobs, wear something that accents them appropriately, not robes, shirts, or unflattering camo.
Accenting your moneymaker with your wardrobe choices will....make you money. Why is that concept so hard to understand?
Who sold you on the idea that tattoos were sexy? And that many tattoos were even sexier? And that nipple piercings were safe for customers' teeth? If you have nipple piercings, don't mash your tits into my mouth without a paid-up dental plan in my back pocket. May I suggest complete sobriety before getting tattooed? Geez, women! You all want to distinguish yourselves by getting a tramp stamp on your lower backside. Here's the secret: they all look the same to the customers. You wouldn't put a bumper sticker on a Rolls Royce so why in the world would you put a tattoo on your bumper? (Yes, I just implied your backside is as classy as a Rolls Royce. Take it as a compliment.)
If you're wearing anything with glitter, I'm going to put orange cones and construction warning tape around you. First of all, it looks stupid and juvenile. Second of all, it gets all over my clothing, my hair, my face, my everything. That's just what I need to go back to the office withglitter all over the place. Use your head, women! One more thing, don't drown yourself in obnoxious, cheap perfume to cover your BO or to impress the customer. Take a shower and use deoderant. That's all you need. Frankly, no perfume at all is better than the stuff you're using. Some of your customers have to go home to wives or back to the office smelling like that crap you're wearing. Remember these sage words of advice when it comes to perfume: less is more. Same for makeup. Lose the fifteen pounds of makeup. The more makeup you have on means the more makeup I'm taking home with me on my clothes. Again, less is more.
Those dangling earrings (and, in some cases, necklaces) have to go. They are dangerous weapons. They have nearly put out my eye, and they have fishooked my mouth and nostrils. Dancing with those things in close proximity to my face puts me in fear of my safety. That's a distraction I don't need.
The dance.
Be a professional and plan, practice, and produce a dance routine for every occasion; the floor, the VIP and the stage. It is pathetic to see what passes for dancing these days. Sitting on my lap and bouncing your butt cheeks for an entire song is not dancing, is not sensuous, and is not going to get you more than one dance. You need to come up with a table/floor dance that is just alluring enough to make me want more--perhaps enough to give me the thought that you'd be worth a trip to the VIP. The good dancers know what to do; a seductive move, a brush of the hand, a quick squeeze, a whispered purring, a connection with the right chemistry...well, you know. Do not be carrying on a conversation with another dancer or customer while dancing for me. Do not be smoking at any time in my presence (how rude!). Do not try to ask me my life story while I'm trying to concentrate on getting in the mood.
Pick good music to dance to while on stage. Some things should not be stripped to. If in doubt about your music choice, think about how many tips you get with Boys II Men or Sade. That should clarify your musical taste.
Don't bring your boyfriend/husband to the club and spend all your time sitting with him. Don't allow him to come to the club at all. Customers don't want the mental picture of giving you money knowing you're giving it to that loser over there who can't hold a job of his own.
Dancers, one word: CIRCULATE! Make the rounds and ask customers for dances. Don't congregate in the dressing room as if all the money is back there. What does it take to get you off your cute butts to come and ask me (or anyone!) for a dance? Why are you sitting with your fellow dancers all huddled up in a hen session for twenty or thirty songs at a time? Move it, lady. Make some money. This is your job. I'm the customer. You're the service provider. Geez, what a pet peeve of mine! This is a true story: I was in a local club and I was the only customer. There were five dancers working. All of them were cackling at a table nearby. None of them even looked in my direction. In desperation, I took a $100 bill from my wallet and stuck it to my forehead just to see if it attracted any interest. None. Zip, Nada. I decided to get up and leave. Lesson: circulate, ladies or money walks.
The money.
Dancers, the number one rule is: I'm the customer and it's my money. I will spend it the way I want. Learn it. Love it. Live by it.
Most clubs, including my favorites, allow tipping at the stage. For a dollar you can get up close to the dancer. Ladies, here are my minimum expectations for $1:
1. Acknowledge my existence some way. Be creative.
2. Smile or say "thank-you" when I give you the dollar.
That's it. So easy, yet you'd be surprised how many dancers can't grasp these simple concepts. I realize I didn't just give you the deed to the Taj Mahal, but simple civility and acknowledgment is expected if I choose to give you a dollar. If you want to do something else for that dollar like rub your boobs in my face, or grab my crotch, or grind your cute butt against me, that's wonderful and it is appreciated, but it's not expected for $1. The fact that you do those things says more about you than it says about me and my dollar.
While on stage I will pay a dollar for the opportunity to ask a dancer to dance for me. If you say yes, then I expect you to make a beeline to me after you get off stage. Instead, you usually go backstage or to the dressing room, check your phone messages, return calls, change outfits, reapply make-up, talk to the other dancers, eat a salad, smoke a cigarette, talk to the DJ, knit a sweater, talk to other customers, etc. By the time you get to me, I've forgotten who you are. By the time you get to me, I've turned down ten other dancers who asked me if I'd like a dance while I was thinking you were coming along right away--and now I'm pissed. If you can't get to me right away, then say so on stage when I ask you for a dance or, come running out to tell me that it will be a few minutes before you can dance for me and to be patient. But, never leave me hanging in a strip club or your money is going elsewhere to the dancer who is willing to perform for me. My rule of thumb is, if you're not by my side after one song, you're not getting my money.
If I'm tipping you on stage with a bill larger than a $20, than you'd better pay some attention to me and I better be the first person you see when you get off stage (pronto), whether I've asked you for a dance or not. For a $20 tip or larger, my minimum expectations go way up. Take it from there.
After table/floor dancing for me, I'll decide if you're worth a trip to the VIP. You don't need to hard-sell me. If you've done your job, I'm already hard and we're going to spend quality time together. If there's no chemistry there or if you're a lame dancer, then no amount of begging (yes, begging ("I need to pay the rent." "My boyfriend needs bail money.")) is going to get me to spend another dollar on you.
Don't ask me for a tip. Ever. I'll pay you what you're worth or the required minimum amount; whichever I feel like. Remember, I'm the customer and it's my money. If you've put me in a good mood, you'll be rewarded. You don't need to ask. Don't tell me you need extra money for the doorman. Take it out of what I gave you. Or else I'll tip the doorman myself if he's been a good boy and left us alone.
Finally, we know how to count. We might be thinking with our small brain, but our big brain is counting dances. If you try to misrepresent the number of dances we've had, you won't be getting any repeat business from me. Cheat me once, shame on you; cheat me twice, shame on me.
Extras.
Most clubs have a VIP/Champagne Room were, depending on the dancer (and City Ordinances and the tolerance of LE), anything goes.
The dancer is the traffic cop if anything other than dancing occurs. Whatever happens is by the dancer's invitation only. Dancers, you need to understand this. Not everyone who comes in there wants to have sex with you. Some just like a little teasing, a playful attitude, and more mundane activities. All that is your call. We, the customer, understand the rules. If, by chance, you have an uneducated customer that doesn't understand the rules, it's your job to educate him. If you fail to make it clear, and a drama erupts, then it's your fault. Yep, I said it. You are the person in charge of any activity that happens in the VIP--good and bad. This is your job, your office, your place of business, your domain. Be a professional and control it and don't blame others if something unfortunate is allowed to happen. I wouldn't allow you to come to my office and act inappropriately, so....be in charge. You have backup (bouncer) if you need it.
If you do allow "special" relationships with customers to develop, then expect to be rewarded in accordance with your attitude, skills, and how well you play the game. Any extra service, hj, bj, fs, whatever, is, again, your call. Just make your customer play safe. Sexhobbyist will have a special chapter on these extra club services in the future.
Finally, there is a network of mongers who appreciate strip club talent. If the dancer has the right attitude and skills, her name will be plastered on the Internet and she will get plenty of business as others are encouraged to patronize her. On the other hand, give poor service, have a bad attitude, or cheat a customer and you'll be just as infamous, but not for the good reason.
Sexhobbyist
Next: Sexhobbyist's strip club guide, part 2: the customers
This is guide #2.
Sexhobbyist's guide to strip clubs, part 2: the customers
For the thousands of women taking their clothes off for a living in cities across America, it is a job, and they say it is one of the toughest sales jobs on Earth. To make real money, the dancers have to work the room, chat up the customers and persuade them to pay for a dance. The number one thought of a dancer is, "how much money can I get out of this person." They size up the customers to determine who the big spenders are. They look for the vulnerable ones who probably don't get that much love or affection or whatever. And then they try to fulfill that need by making the customer feel better about themselvessmarter, stronger, etc. That, in a nutshell, is the game. Your role as the customer is to allow it all to happen up to the point you no longer want to play. You control the money, they control the action. A strip club experience is a tug-of-war between the money and action. Usually the money wins because the dancer is now holding it, sometimes (rarely) the action will win because the customer is leaving the club with a smile on his face. You must learn to play the tug-of-war to your advantage within certain guidelines.
If the first words out of your mouth to a dancer are, "How far will you go?" you can expect not to get anything from her, not even a dance.
Even if you're just killing time, take money into a strip club. If you are broke, then just hide somewhere (like the bar) so the dancers won't waste time on you. If you only have enough money to buy a couple of beers, then go to the local sports bar. Or better yet, buy a six pack and stay home and jack off to Desperate Housewives, instead. A strip club is "pay-per-view" not cable. The entertainers do not practice their craft for free. Succinctly stated, her horniness is in direct proportion to the greenery in your wallet. Learn it. Love it. Live by it.
For God's sake, if you go into a strip club, take currency. Strippers don't want to be paid in quarters. Do you see any pockets in their outfits? Do you see enough fabric in the outfit to make a pocket?
Do not ask a dancer into the VIP room if you know you can't afford it. If you want to make the dancers mad and bring down the wrath of an army of them teamed with the bouncers, then just go ahead and get $200 worth of dances with only $50 to your name. You will have put yourself in a potentially dangerous situation. Getting your ass beat by mostly naked women is humiliating, to say the least. You can also find yourself explaining the situation to a cop and the charge will be theft of services. I've seen it happen.
Do not bob your head around while they're dancing in an attempt to catch their nipple in your mouth. For one thing, you'll look like a chicken head. For another thing, she will always be faster than you. Finally, should you catch one of those nipples, you just might find yourself taking your sustenance through a straw for a month.
No groping unless invited. Do not move your hand to any part of her body unless she is unwittingly leaning on your colostomy bag. She knows where your hand is, and she knows where you'd like her hand to be. The dancers have a detailed understanding of anatomy. Leave it at that.
News flash: the dancers know you have a penis and they know where it is. They know they're doing their job well when it gets hard. Just remember, as proud of it as you are, they've sat on bigger ones. Yes, size matters.
Don't be the guy in a dress shirt and swim trunks. You're not fooling anyone. The dancers know the difference between office attire and offender wear.
Don't be rude. If you're rude to a dancer she'll tell all the other dancers that you're a cop. You might as well go home and never come back.
Speaking of rude, don't bark, howl, snort, make kissy noises or snap your fingers at the dancers. You may, on occasion, issue a wolf whistle, but leave it at that. Calling a dancer to your table like you'd call a dog is dangerous. You could end up with a six-inch spiked heel "accidently" misplaced on your foot. Or you could end up with a wet lap from an "accidently" spilled drink.
Don't put your money in your mouth (or any other orifice). Money is filthy. Putting it in your mouth makes as much sense, hygienically, as licking the urinal in the mens bathroom. Maybe even less. The dancers are not going to let you use your mouth to stuff the bill into the side of their g-string nor are they going to take the bill from your forehead, behind your ear or out of your nose, for that matter. Just come on up to the stage, enjoy the closeup view of their shoes and the undersides of their breasts and politely tuck your dollar in whatever piece of clothing they indicate. Don't make a big production out of it and hope for the "minimum expectation" as described in part 1.
Do not EVER ask the dancers if they have a husband, boyfriend, girlfriend, live-in, fiance, fuck buddy, whatever. It doesn't matter and it has no bearing on the service they are providing you. They're not going out with you even if you were the last straight guy in town. If they do like you enough to date you, they aren't shy about telling you. Just remember that it's their job to create a fantasy for you and most of them do their job well. They get you all warm and fuzzy, purr in your ear, touch you in just the right places, and get your mind focused on them. Repeating: that's their job. Outside the club, she probably wouldn't even fart your way.
You will not find the woman of your dreams and ride off into the sunset together as man and wife with a dancer from a strip club. You have a better chance of being the starting quarterback for the Arizona Cardinals. If you're so desperate that the only gene pool you can swim in is in a strip club, then you've got bigger problems besides your social life. Strippers do not work just to get picked up by men. More on the subject of dating a stripper in part 3.
The dancer is the choreographer so don't "direct" the dance. Let her do her thing. If she's a professional, she knows what to do. She will always bring the important parts--boobs, butt, eyes, whatever--around again. Her dance is good enough to keep her fed, so just let her do it.
Guys, two words: personal hygiene. Get cleaned up before engaging in contact with the dancers. If you're coming in directly after work, maybe you should spend a few minutes in the restroom freshening up. Perhaps keep a clean shirt and jeans in your vehicle just for those occasions when a detour to the strip club is in the cards. If you've been working out in the hot sun, then you are guaranteed to stink. Would you snuggle up to a skunk? Use breath mints and deodorant before encountering a dancer.
Finally, the dancer is in charge of everything that happens in the VIP/Champagne Room. I can tell you with metaphysical certainty that she will not let you slip it in for an extra $50.
Sexhobbyist with the collaboration of a certain dancer, you know who you are.
Next: Sexhobbyist's strip club guide, part 3: advanced subjects
This is guide #3.
Sexhobbyist's guide to strip clubs, part 3: advanced subjects
This chapter gets a bit delicate with the discussion. If you have the stomach, keep reading.
Extras.
Rule number 1: The dancer is in charge of extras, if any.
Rule number 2: Never place any body part where you're not invited. Period.
Rule number 3: You pay for your education.
Rule number 4: What a dancer provides for me she may not provide for you, hence the term, "your mileage may vary (ymmv)."
Rule number 5: Any discussion of extras in this post is fiction if you are LE reading this.
Do not expect dancers to do anything other than dance. It may take a couple of visits for a dancer to feel comfortable enough with you to push the envelope, so to speak.
The dancer's goal is to empty your wallet. The customer is wondering, "how much is she willing to do to achieve her goal?" Perhaps most shocking is the fact that dancers at strip clubs have sex with the customers. Some dancers become involved in relationships with the customers outside of the club. Others have one-time flings in hotel rooms or cars, and others actually have sex right there in the club itself. Not all dancers have sex with customers. Not all customers who do have sex with dancers pay for it monetarily. The important point is, the dancer decides if anything happens, not the customer.
Never ask a dancer for extras. If she does them, she'll let you know verbally or by her actions during her dance. If you don't get the feeling that something special is going to happen, either end the session or ask her if it's okay if you get more frisky (but don't get specific).
Nine dancers at four different clubs are currently patronizing me with their special dances. Five others I've gotten special dances from are no longer in the business. I tell you this so that you can have some confidence in what I'm describing. (Unless, of course, you are LE, in which case this is all an elaborate fabricated fantasy.) In almost every case these are relationships that have been cultivated over a long period and with many dollars.
I asked the dancers that provide special dances for me why they do so. In other words, how did I move my status from "repeat customer" to "lover." Their responses come in three categories: "Because I've known you forever and you're a nice guy," "Because you have a big dick," and "Because you're clean." Notice that the subject of money did not cross their lips. Money is the unspoken truism in strip clubs. They earn everything they get for the dances they provide, but, on the other hand, some of them don't get a dime extra. They do it because they want to. They do it because of one or more of those three reasons. They do it because they want to get themselves off. (That's the latest trend. Dancers are using customers to satisfy themselves. Nothing wrong with that if you've got the equipment and stamina to handle it, but it makes the customer feel like he should be charging for the dance.)
I'm not so naive to think that money isn't a factor. It is. As stated in part 2 of this guide, the dancer's horniness is in direct proportion to the greenery in your wallet. Learn it. Love it. Live by it. If you want to know what a dancer really thinks of you, remove the financial aspect of your relationship and see what happens. You'll know if you're being played or if you are enjoyable company to the dancer. That little trick works for me.
But be aware, if you don't keep the money flowing, they will move up the food chain.
The dancers don't walk around with signs hanging from their necks saying, "Hi, I'm Sparkle and I'll do a handjob for you." Wouldn't that be nice if they did. You have to keep "auditioning" dancers until you find the one(s) you like. In other words, you pay for your education. Expect to waste money on some real dogs as you try to find that special dancer. Audition dancers with table dances first. Their table dances will indicate to you whether they are VIP-worthy and whether you can spend more money on them. Just remember, they are trying to entice you into more dances with this "audition." If they've done their job well, then make a move to the VIP.
Do not expect to get special dances in the VIP the first time you get a dance from a new dancer. In fifteen years of mongering in my town, that's only happened to me five times from thousands of dancers (law of averages, I guess). I always ask them why they did that and they always respond with one of the three standard responses, "Because you're clean and have a big dick," or "Because you seem like a nice guy and you have a big dick." Okay, there's a theme here. But they don't know me, so they don't have any idea what I'll pay them for the dance before they initiate it. In other words, I've presented myself as a clean, normal, sociable, unthreatening, respectful, complimentary, mouth-breathing, biped with a big dick and they have succumbed of their own free will. That is NOT the normal experience in a VIP/Champagne Room.
You're wanting to know how much to pay for full service. If a dancer is a pro and doing fs as a business, she will tell you up front before the action starts how much. You can always try to negotiate. Yes, (shock!) there are some pros in the clubs. I try not to patronize them because of their obviousness and because of the "ick" factor. Winning over the regular dancers who wouldn't ordinarily think of doing fs as a pro is more of a reward for some customers. It's the thrill of the chase that some patrons like and sometimes (rarely) the money isn't the factor for the dancers because just want to get themselves off and they'll use you to make it happen.
Only pay for songs in the VIP. It's illegal to pay for sex. Of course, the amount-per-song you pay is up to you. The amount will vary depending on your location and the free market capitalistic tendencies of the entertainment staff.
If fs is an unanticipated "extra" from a dancer, it is reasonable to give a minimum of $+ for her dances. If it's someone you want to continue with an ongoing fs relationship (duh!), then be a bit generous so they will keep you in their stable. The generosity ranges up to $$ or $$.5 depending on their dance performance, attitude, skills, willingness, and GFE. If you've known your dancer for 10 years, they rate a higher payday on the scale. If she does anal, she gets a bit more for her dances. If you know a dancer that gives the best GFE sex everand that's saying a lotshe deserves special compensation for her dances. If you know of an occasion where three dancers in the same afternoon have danced their specialty (consecutively, not simultaneously), remember that it takes a special wallet to accommodate all that action. So, be prepared. We've already discussed money in part 2.
In the VIP, if the performance ends in a hj, give an extra $5 per song over and above the going rate. If the session is a bbbjcim, then give 50-100%% above the rate per song however many songs it takes to get the job done (usually about two dances). It's in your wallet's best interest to focus on the moment. If other activities are part of the dance--fingering, DATY, kissing, salad tossing, whatever--then pay appropriately for the dances because it will have been the best dances you'll ever get and you'll be jacking off to that memory for years to come.
If something good happens, don't brag about it. I know this goes against male DNA, but if you want to continue getting special favors from a dancer, keep it to yourself. She is not a trophy no matter how much you spent for that taste of nirvana. Telling other dancers that you got special treatment from (insert name of dancer here) will bring the wrath of a woman scorned upon you. And you will have deserved it. Take your story to this forum, but leave details a bit fuzzy so as not to invite trouble for the dancer or club.
Condoms
My previous post about condom etiquette is reposted here for completeness and continuity. If you've already read it online, you may skip to the next section, "Dating":
Rule #1, always be prepared and come with protection.
Condoms are always useful in those circumstances when it comes to playing safe. Perhaps you're going to a club where you know the action will be exciting enough that you might soil yourself and your $100 slacks before going back to the office or home. It's possible you will get rubbed the "wrong" way and an accident happens. Perhaps you think you might get lucky with a dancer and you want to play the game with a full armory of protection. Whatever you do, take condoms.
Slipping on the condom. Plan A: put on the condom before entering the club if you think you're able to keep it on a limp dick. Plan B: get some table dances from a dancer that is a hot prospect for VIP action. By now you should be in such a state of arousal that the condom will go on and stay on. On your way to the VIP, tell the dancer to meet you there and that you want to go to the restroom first. Put on your condom discretely in the restroom then join your dancer in the VIP. Plan C is my preferred method. It requires a little forethought and some wardrobe guidance. I always wear a shirt with an extra long shirt tail to help cover any action from prying eyes that might be going on in the groin area and the shirt MUST have a shirt pocket. This is where I put my condom(s). It's a logistic thing as well as an incentive.
I'll explain. Have you ever had a dancer sitting astride your lap with your ding-a-ling out of its shelter and have the moment of decision arrive for the dancer to either entertain you "inside" or simply keep you motivated with hand and, perhaps oral action? The instant appearance of a condom package from your shirt pocket is nonverbal communication that gives her incentive without hesitation. She will either call you a pervert, tell you to put it on, or grab it from your fingers and put it on herself (preferred method). Even if all you end up with is a handjob, you won't have a mess to deal with. Whereas, if your condom is in your pant pocket, you have to fidget and wrestle with your pocket to fish it out. In the meantime the dancer thinks your doing something fishy down there with your hands. You have to verbally communicate with her what the hell you're doing. ("You're doing what!? What makes you think you're getting any of THIS!") She has to adjust her lap position to allow you to get access to your pant pocket. Doing so might expose your ding-a-ling to nearby onlookers (hence, the long shirt tail). At the very least, it requires an adjustment by both of you that just about ruins the moment which is now fleeting.
So, keep your condoms in your shirt pocket and play safe. Once a dancer gets to know you and knows your expectations, she will pick the condom out of your pocket herself and find some interesting ways to "dress you" for what comes next. It's all good.
Rule #2 always, always play safe.
More about wardrobe.
Most professional mongers know about wearing the right slacks, shorts, or whatever. We each have our favorite strip club uniform that allows easy access, and is comfortable for the dancer and you. Elastic waistbands and velcro zippers are the greatest inventions ever devised for mongers
Wearing the right shirt is something that is probably not given as much consideration. As explained above, I prefer shirts with pockets and long shirt tails. Any size guy can purchase shirts with long shirt tails from the "Big and Tall Men's Store" in your town. In my town they're called Casual Male XL. You don't have to be a big or tall person to shop in these stores. Average guys can purchase their size shirts in a tall size which includes an extra long shirt tail. The good dancers, those with the right attitude and skills, know how to work the shirt tail. I highly recommend it for strip club mongering. If it's not clear to you why you want an extra long shirt tail, then come back another time for the next Sexhobbyist seminar.
Dating
You will be tempted to ask the dancer if she does private shows outside the club. Don't ask. If she does, she'll find a way to let you know if she thinks you're a viable customer. She'll ask for your phone number, for instance. Exchange phone numbers. If you make a date, be sure to keep it, because she is arranging her schedule around you. Take extra clothing, toiletries, and money.
I qualify the following remarks by saying, "it has been my experience...."
Not all dancers are as I describe in the following remarks, but it's been my experience....
Remember that dating exotic dancers/strippers in the traditional sense is a little thornier than usual. They have many complications including their volatile backgrounds, their love and devotion to the Benjamins, their lack of confidence, and their constant need for reassurance about their looks and intelligence. (Yes, you've just stumbled on the way to get what you want from a dancer.) It's been my experience that if you have a good job and show some respect for them and their profession, you will do well. But, and this is a big "but," do not date a dancer unless you are fully confident in your own sexual abilities or if you are even a smidge jealous. Do not date a dancer if you have an old-fashioned masculine need to take care of a woman. Do not date a dancer if you want a girlfriend with any sort of future. And finally, do not date a dancer unless you are mentally prepared to ride the same emotional roller coaster as a woman with "habits," self-esteem issues, and more money than she knows what to do with. Not all dancers are that way, but you're going to waste a lot of time, effort, and emotions trying to find the gem that may never materialize. Again, this has been my experience.
Dancers are not obligated to go out with you just because you've seen their naked breasts. If, by chance, hell freezes over and you are asked out, consider yourself to have a mixed blessing bestowed upon you.
Remember, too, that you might not be such a hot catch either. After all, what the hell are you doing in a strip club, numbnuts?
Sexhobbyist
Next: Sexhobbyist's strip club guide, part 4: TBD
Went to the Boat Sunday afternoon for the first time in quite a while. A few guys in the crowd, but a good number of girls circulating around. Went to VIP with someone I think was called Anna. Mexican, a little thicker, big boobs, very direct in what she offers. Unfortunately I was hungover and my little guy was not cooperating otherwise it would have been really great. I'll be back when I'm in better shape LOL. Also got some floor dances from Diamond for I think the first time, but she said I looked familiar so its possible I've seen her before. I also look forward to seeing her when more functional.
Stopped by Venom on the way home since there are some reports of it getting better, but it was completely dead.
Has anyone seen Lisa anywhere recently?
PoopSnicker
07-18-22, 09:46
This is guide #3.This is an awesome post! Thank you, I have learned many of these (the hard way) I wish I had read this in my 20's.
Went to the Boat Sunday afternoon for the first time in quite a while. A few guys in the crowd, but a good number of girls circulating around. Went to VIP with someone I think was called Anna. Mexican, a little thicker, big boobs, very direct in what she offers. Unfortunately I was hungover and my little guy was not cooperating otherwise it would have been really great. I'll be back when I'm in better shape LOL. Also got some floor dances from Diamond for I think the first time, but she said I looked familiar so its possible I've seen her before. I also look forward to seeing her when more functional.
Stopped by Venom on the way home since there are some reports of it getting better, but it was completely dead.
Has anyone seen Lisa anywhere recently?Full disclosure. I believe Anna is Selena. I like her, but she is very aggressive sometimes and has pulled some weird stunts on some guys.
Buyer beware.
Full disclosure. I believe Anna is Selena. I like her, but she is very aggressive sometimes and has pulled some weird stunts on some guys.
Buyer beware.Just searched the name and that sounds right. I didn't have an issue, she quoted a per song price but we settled on a flat fee.
BillyFish1
07-18-22, 19:44
Has anyone heard of a dancer that goes by cowgirl?
At 1: pm Tucson time tons of girls and maybe 3 guys.
Hello gentlemen,
I'll be coming down to Tucson the beginning of August. I'll have some free time on Saturday but Unfortunately, it'll be during the day. About 11:30 a - 4 p. I'm from the Phoenix area and on either Fridays or Saturdays either Bourbon St or HiLiter are my go-to day clubs. Does anything have or can make some suggestions based on experience and recent visits. I may just stick with a AMP. Please advise. Thank you.
ShakenGrind
07-21-22, 17:21
Hello gentlemen,
I'll be coming down to Tucson the beginning of August. I'll have some free time on Saturday but Unfortunately, it'll be during the day. About 11:30 a - 4 p. I'm from the Phoenix area and on either Fridays or Saturdays either Bourbon St or HiLiter are my go-to day clubs. Does anything have or can make some suggestions based on experience and recent visits. I may just stick with a AMP. Please advise. Thank you.Raiders Reef is your best chance of getting extras. Curves tends to have the best looking dancers. But the mileage is lower.
ShakenGrind
07-23-22, 20:42
Just left the boat, around 530. Nothing noteworthy until the end. Just as I was leaving I met 2 Cubans. Cardi & a lighter skinned one, with a very sexy figure. I believe her name began with a S. Both are extremely sexy, & very promising. I'm sure some of you have met them.
Been awhile since I've hit the clubs. Is Venom worth it for a Friday afternoon?
DirtyDeedsDone
07-29-22, 20:39
Been awhile since I've hit the clubs. Is Venom worth it for a Friday afternoon?Word has it is that Venom is the new Raiders. The one thing that I don't like is the VIP Venom entry fee is only good for 30 minutes. And if you want to sample a few ladies to find what you're looking for it's going to get extremely expensive. And some of the talent has gown better too. It's not just the super large girls anymore. It's defiantly worth a look.
ShakenGrind
07-29-22, 23:20
Word has it is that Venom is the new Raiders. The one thing that I don't like is the VIP Venom entry fee is only good for 30 minutes. And if you want to sample a few ladies to find what you're looking for it's going to get extremely expensive. And some of the talent has gown better too. It's not just the super large girls anymore. It's defiantly worth a look.Is it busy there on Friday afternoon? My experience with Venom has been during Saturday afternoons. Gshort visits bc it's dead.
DirtyDeedsDone
07-30-22, 12:18
Is it busy there on Friday afternoon? My experience with Venom has been during Saturday afternoons. Gshort visits bc it's dead.Venom is defiantly not like the Candy Store Friday's, but it has enough talent to have fun. Most gents that want to have the best and easiest fun go in extremly early. Less bouncers and staff is still doing the opening duties, so eyes are typically elsewhere. And a few clubs have at least 10 ladies there so they don't have to pay a house fee. And rent is coming here in a few days. A lot of positive factors for sure to get your best experience.
ShakenGrind
07-30-22, 23:18
Venom is defiantly not like the Candy Store Friday's, but it has enough talent to have fun. Most gents that want to have the best and easiest fun go in extremly early. Less bouncers and staff is still doing the opening duties, so eyes are typically elsewhere. And a few clubs have at least 10 ladies there so they don't have to pay a house fee. And rent is coming here in a few days. A lot of positive factors for sure to get your best experience.Thanks. I'll remember that.
DirtyDeedsDone
08-01-22, 20:23
Thanks. I'll remember that.Uncourtly I had to work this past Friday but went immediately after work around 5 ish. I sat up on the top lengthy couch waiting for some of the ladies, either when they enter for their shift, or get them whenever their going to the back for whatever. Not even a few minutes upon me sitting down, low and behold walks out Jeanette from a cabana. Prior to that I could hear some raised voices just prior to her coming out. It was defiantly someone she's had dances from before because she was referring to him shorting her again on the payment for extras, as usual. He was saying you do this shit to me every time and I'm done with you. He gave her a few more bills, but I'm not sure what the denominations were, but still not a cool situation. She immediately came over and plopped on my lap before departing to the back to, I'm assuming to wash up after exiting the cabana but that didn't happen. Nasty. I told her I was waiting for someone and she kept asking who it was I was waiting for. I was okay actually saying someone other than you, I've had some not good situations with her in the past too, so I'm even surprised she even came over to even chat. She immediately got up pretty pissed of and stormed off cussing me out as she went to the back. That girl will never learn. I was actually saying a prayer hoping that she'd get fired from there like she did at Raiders. My first time saying 2 Our Fathers and 3 Hail Mary's in a strip club.
Ikkyu Sojunn
08-03-22, 19:14
Full of Cuban spinners. Good crowd.
This forum is a lifesaver.
Great Expecta
08-04-22, 13:29
Uncourtly I had to work this past Friday but went immediately after work around 5 ish. I sat up on the top lengthy couch waiting for some of the ladies, either when they enter for their shift, or get them whenever their going to the back for whatever. Not even a few minutes upon me sitting down, low and behold walks out Jeanette from a cabana. Prior to that I could hear some raised voices just prior to her coming out. It was defiantly someone she's had dances from before because she was referring to him shorting her again on the payment for extras, as usual. He was saying you do this shit to me every time and I'm done with you. He gave her a few more bills, but I'm not sure what the denominations were, but still not a cool situation. She immediately came over and plopped on my lap before departing to the back to, I'm assuming to wash up after exiting the cabana but that didn't happen. Nasty. I told her I was waiting for someone and she kept asking who it was I was waiting for. I was okay actually saying someone other than you, I've had some not good situations with her in the past too, so I'm even surprised she even came over to even chat. She immediately got up pretty pissed of and stormed off cussing me out as she went to the back. That girl will never learn. I was actually saying a prayer hoping that she'd get fired from there like she did at Raiders. My first time saying 2 Our Fathers and 3 Hail Mary's in a strip club.I got a BBBJ and anal from Jeanette at the Boat last fall for $. 6. We negotiated our price up front so there were no surprises and she got paid after the deed. She was actually very friendly and clean at the time. I did make the mistake of giving her and Baya my text number (the fake one) and low and behold they started calling that number at all times of the late evening and night drunk wanting to know if I wanted sex. Not cool if your partner is next to you and I blamed it on spam. Be safe out there!
BillyFish1
08-04-22, 17:10
I got a BBBJ and anal from Jeanette at the Boat last fall for $. 6. We negotiated our price up front so there were no surprises and she got paid after the deed. She was actually very friendly and clean at the time. I did make the mistake of giving her and Baya my text number (the fake one) and low and behold they started calling that number at all times of the late evening and night drunk wanting to know if I wanted sex. Not cool if your partner is next to you and I blamed it on spam. Be safe out there!What's her stage name?
Headed there tomorrow afternoon. Do any of you mongers have any recommendations for a nice afternoon?
MongerLuv69
08-05-22, 01:02
Have one who will do outcall at hotel already. Met two hot ones today. Forgot names but want to try them at VIP dance and develop rapport so can try for FS. Trying while girls who speak English after my last year doing Asian massage spas.
Negotiations are different. Learning.
DirtyDeedsDone
08-05-22, 11:35
What's her stage name?The problem that has existed with Jeanette is that things have been previously negotiated, but when it's all said and done she wants more even after the fact. Her drinking and drunk state hasn't helped her either. She's a drunk. I used to purchase drinks for her at the Boat, but no more. I won't feed into her wrecklessness and lying and cheating ways any longer. I so realize that she has done well for some, including myself in the past, but when you start doing wrong to some that truly truly is going to effect your overall game, which isn't good.
I hit Venom yesterday and today. The high point was Jamaica but we didn't click this time. All the other dancers are overweight or unattractive. I definitely would not return.
I agree, she's not worth the time of day.
I was in a few weeks ago since I'd read that royce was back.
Not much going on and slim pickins'.
She came over and asked to sit and got very handsy talking about being hungry.
She's larger than I care for and was clearly fucked up but seemed eager to please.
I took the bait and when the curtain closed, activity started, upselling began.
I said "this is what I have, take or leave it. ".
She continued, it sucked and I said I'm good.
When she told me her name, I thought of all the reviews from the boat and thought " WTF were they talking about. ".
Avoid her, it's a shiity experience.
DirtyDeedsDone
08-07-22, 16:11
I agree, she's not worth the time of day.
I was in a few weeks ago since I'd read that royce was back.
Not much going on and slim pickins'.
She came over and asked to sit and got very handsy talking about being hungry.
She's larger than I care for and was clearly fucked up but seemed eager to please.
I took the bait and when the curtain closed, activity started, upselling began.
I said "this is what I have, take or leave it. ".
She continued, it sucked and I said I'm good.
When she told me her name, I thought of all the reviews from the boat and thought " WTF were they talking about. ".
Avoid her, it's a shiity experience.Which one is Royce? I've heard the name before but can't place the face or body with the name. Thanks for info.
MongerLuv69
08-07-22, 19:46
I am much older so I am not interested in 20 something babes. Today found another sweet thing also a bit older that most in late 40's. She was very interesting so slowly will get to know her. There could be some real good stuff here. Table dance was very hot. In a rush so did not do vIp this time but it is promising. Natural tits. Cute ass. Pretty face. Complete package. Looks way younger. I was surprised. Most of us guys there are older. We are the ones with the money to support this kinky hobby. I am Sorry that there are very few older dancers.
Until next time. We shall see about slow progress.
Anyone have any experience with Aloha from curves in the private rooms?
DirtyDeedsDone
08-08-22, 11:21
I hit Venom yesterday and today. The high point was Jamaica but we didn't click this time. All the other dancers are overweight or unattractive. I definitely would not return.Venom lately can be a hit or miss. I think the pandemic didn't help but most dancers are pretty lazy overall and just lick dick and fuck for a few minutes and then go back and sit on their asses until the next guy. I've been to many many of their apartments and it's extremely more than apparent how lazy they are. Dirty dirty. But most will keep their money makers pretty clean. The Club should implement some incentive for them to stay in shape or get in shape. Most of us don't like all the flabbyness. We are very very visual men for the majority of us.
MongerLuv69
08-08-22, 19:49
Met 23 year old Mani today. Cute with tiny tits. Speaks little English in two months here from Cuba. Did VIP dance that was very hot. Dipped finger Wet and played with all her body on first dance. If you speak Spanish she probably needs money and will play outside of club. Did not try but guess she is ready.
Dennis1234
08-09-22, 19:36
Full of Cuban spinners. Good crowd.I love Cuban spinners. Day or night shift? Really hard to get away but I don't want to miss out. Also any names on ones that do takeout?
MongerLuv69
08-10-22, 02:58
I love Cuban spinners. Day or night shift? Really hard to get away but I don't want to miss out. Also any names on ones that do takeout?Mani. A little big but very cooperative. Think she will go. Little English.
Anyone have any experience with Aloha from curves in the private rooms?I was at Curves last week and got a VIP dance with Aloha. WOW. Well worth the 30/ dance. I ended up doing 5 dances and mutual touching was allowed. I shall return.
Dennis1234
08-10-22, 12:14
Which one is Royce? I've heard the name before but can't place the face or body with the name. Thanks for info.Talking about the mixed Asian / Latina that danced for years at Venom?
Ikkyu Sojunn
08-10-22, 23:02
Good crowd of girls weds 8 pm.
DirtyDeedsDone
08-10-22, 23:28
Good crowd of girls weds 8 pm.I would love to check it out, but the Tucson Monsoons are currently in full effect. I'm on north Oracle near the Oro Valley area. Flooding was / has been crazy most of this evening. We're looking forward to your Cabana stories from tonight. We can live vicariously through you. I'll be there after work around 6 pm. Hopefully with a story.
Ikkyu Sojunn
08-10-22, 23:44
Talking about the mixed Asian / Latina that danced for years at Venom?Yes, and she's back now.
Ikkyu Sojunn
08-10-22, 23:51
Ok, which of you guys got Kim pregnant?
MongerLuv69
08-11-22, 02:53
A bit older lovely blond at Raiders. Table dance was spectacular. All over the body touch. Great moves. VIP next time and see if can make progress. She speaks good English. Possible more from her. Will try Friday.
TucsonMonger
08-11-22, 07:38
Ok, which of you guys got Kim pregnant?Take your pick I assume the way she plays. Sad to be true though she will be off market for a while.
Dennis1234
08-11-22, 10:12
Get her while she's hot. This is her fourth day working, she's built and beautiful and doesn't know what's she's worth. Let her name her price and you'll be pleasantly surprised! Took us several minutes to get it in she's so tight!What she look like? Ethnicity?
Dennis1234
08-11-22, 10:25
Take your pick I assume the way she plays. Sad to be true though she will be off market for a while.What did she look like? IS she working while preggo? That can be hot.
Ikkyu Sojunn
08-11-22, 16:34
What did she look like? IS she working while preggo? That can be hot.Well she's not waddling but very pregnant and still working.
Well she's not waddling but very pregnant and still working.Anyone knows her typical hours?
A bit older lovely blond at Raiders. Table dance was spectacular. All over the body touch. Great moves. VIP next time and see if can make progress. She speaks good English. Possible more from her. Will try Friday.Sounds like this might be Karen? If so, she has nice hands, but don't expect anything beyond that.
MongerLuv69
08-12-22, 14:14
Sounds like this might be Karen? If so, she has nice hands, but don't expect anything beyond that.It is Karen and thanks for the advice. Will try and push the extras envelope today and still enjoy what she is willing to do. That is why this forum is cool.
MongerLuv69
08-12-22, 17:45
She is one that is not a quitter, she will plop at your table and not even care if you tell her you are waiting on someone. "I'll leave when then show up" will be her answer and of course few dancers, who don't know you well, will sit down at your table with another dancer already there. I will admit though a few months back she offered, and delivered, to suck my cock for cost of dances only. Three songs later I rounded it up to 4 jacksons after I busted in her mouth.She sat down at my table and tried for a dance. Said maybe later. She snuggled in and said exciting VIP room experience. I again said later. Then she blurted out how about a blow job. Same maybe later answer but knew there was info on her so went to forum It appears that you can bargain her down and get a BJ for three dances if you hold her to her offer. I might give it a try. She came by a second time offering the BJ. We shall see.
Karen was exciting in VIP but no extra services. She wanted $30 also which I paid but probably no return because I want some extra stuff.
MongerLuv69
08-13-22, 01:50
She sat down at my table and tried for a dance. Said maybe later. She snuggled in and said exciting VIP room experience. I again said later. Then she blurted out how about a blow job. Same maybe later answer but knew there was info on her so went to forum It appears that you can bargain her down and get a BJ for three dances if you hold her to her offer. I might give it a try. She came by a second time offering the BJ. We shall see.
Karen was exciting in VIP but no extra services. She wanted $30 also which I paid but probably no return because I want some extra stuff.Debating Salena. Going by Saturday and will deal with for price and action. Warning her that I know she sometimes does not provide and demand more money. This old guy has been going to tooless bars since 1962 in 15 countries and many states. I will also tell her that the forum says she does a great BJ when she wants to. I will give her a great bjcim if she does that. Also will respectfully bargain her down. Looking forward to coming in her throat deeply.
MongerLuv69
08-14-22, 00:48
Debating Salena. Going by Saturday and will deal with for price and action. Warning her that I know she sometimes does not provide and demand more money. This old guy has been going to tooless bars since 1962 in 15 countries and many states. I will also tell her that the forum says she does a great BJ when she wants to. I will give her a great bjcim if she does that. Also will respectfully bargain her down. Looking forward to coming in her throat deeply.Sat and no Salena at Raiders. Oh well. Trying on Sunday.
Ikkyu Sojunn
08-14-22, 17:40
Sat and no Salena at Raiders. Oh well. Trying on Sunday.She is now.
MongerLuv69
08-14-22, 20:50
She is now.When I got there door guy said she was there. But missed her. Left at 5:30 pm after being there for an hour. None of the usual suspects turned me on. Tipped a few on the stage but no dances. Oh well.
MongerLuv69
08-15-22, 02:12
When I got there door guy said she was there. But missed her. Left at 5:30 pm after being there for an hour. None of the usual suspects turned me on. Tipped a few on the stage but no dances. Oh well.To save money think I will just get one VIP audition to see how sexy she will perform before going for BJ.
DirtyDeedsDone
08-15-22, 14:16
To save money think I will just get one VIP audition to see how sexy she will perform before going for BJ.I'm kind of a tad surprised that with so many negative comments pertaining to Selina you gents are more looking at this as a challenge to see if and what you can get from her, and as low as you can get her. This is the first time I've seen this. It's kind of like a competition now. Haha. You know that the lovely ladies of the club reads the board here. I think that was a little bit of my objective. So she could read the comments and straighten up her act. It seems to possibly working. Maybe. We shall soon see. Have fun gents on whatever you decide to do. Just make the most of the situation to get your ultimate objective. Whatever that might be.
AzHeadHunter
08-16-22, 22:54
To save money think I will just get one VIP audition to see how sexy she will perform before going for BJ.I don't care if she does straighten her act up, that ***** won't make another dime from me. I barely ever enter the SC's anymore, and if I do, I sit at the bar.
DirtyDeedsDone
08-17-22, 07:08
I don't care if she does straighten her act up, that ***** won't make another dime from me. I barely ever enter the SC's anymore, and if I do, I sit at the bar.I agree with you one hundred and 10 percent. She'll never ever even get a red cent from me ever again. I think she truly deserves a financial impact not an award or a competition to see what someone can get out of her. We here should be sticking together and not allowing her to make any more hard earned money from anyone of us. There are so many others that would happily receive it without feeling or being hussled.
Ikkyu Sojunn
08-17-22, 18:03
Good crowd at 3. 15 girls, couple cabana girls.
Good crowd at 3. 15 girls, couple cabana girls.I read on here Royce was back at venom. Anyone see? Been a couple of times it no joy.
Ikkyu Sojunn
08-17-22, 22:07
I read on here Royce was back at venom. Anyone see? Been a couple of times it no joy.I saw her once.
Ikkyu Sojunn
08-17-22, 23:42
The party continues.
I've been on this forum since Moses came down and condemned us all.
Someone asked about Royce awhile back. She looks like a petite Latina to me but she is wonderfully mixed, French, Cajun and a bunch of others. Get to know her and she is hella fun away from the club. In the club fun can be had when she's horny, and she'll let you know. 5', maybe 11 o#'s, dark hair and fun personality.
As far as Selina. There was a time when she was a lot of fun and into what she was doing. As far as I'm concerned that time has run it's course and it's time for her to find a legit job and become a functional adult. From what I've read and my experience from 2019 she goes through the motions. If that gets you off, go for it. It doesn't work for me.
The clubs don't seem to have any meaningful talent these days, to me.
"back in the day" you had a semblance of a "professional" relationship with a dancer / person. You got to know each other and get comfortable within reason. You played the game but each was satisfied and it was understood. There was feeling in it. You left satisfied and so did they. That's not what I see today, in my limited experience. It's very sad to me. Perhaps that's all you guys want. Wham / bam thank you ma'am. That, in and of itself is a sad testament on todays sexual culture.
I miss the old days and the women who were around then.
Time moves and changes come.
Be safe and have fun gents.
Sn out.
YES! Lots of Cuban spinners at the Boat. Or at least the claim to be Cuban. Their must have bee 8-10 of them in all age ranges. I didn't partake, as I don't want to go home smelling of another woman perfume. I'll try again next week when I am "out of town" on business.
Until then, anyone else have any CR FS experiences with these Latin women at the Boat?
Thanks.
CL.
Full of Cuban spinners. Good crowd.
Curious520
08-19-22, 01:43
I recently started checking out AMPs and now am interested in checking out the strip club experience. I don't have anyone to go with unfortunately. The only other times I've been to a strip club was over 10 years ago in Montreal. Private dances were $15 Canadian per song (about 3 minutes long) and touching the girl everywhere but her puss was allowed. I thought it was worth it. At the time, I think $15 Canadian was equal to around $12 US. I read about 17 of the most recent pages of this thread trying to get a feel for it. It seems prices are much higher for the US equivalent.
I recently started checking out AMPs and now am interested in checking out the strip club experience. I don't have anyone to go with unfortunately. The only other times I've been to a strip club was over 10 years ago in Montreal. Private dances were $15 Canadian per song (about 3 minutes long) and touching the girl everywhere but her puss was allowed. I thought it was worth it. At the time, I think $15 Canadian was equal to around $12 US. I read about 17 of the most recent pages of this thread trying to get a feel for it. It seems prices are much higher for the US equivalent.Venom is $10 for a table dance and depending on the dancer you can touch pretty much whatever you want.
So I was at curves the other day during the week. Went for lunch beer / hamburger. Only dancer I saw that I was interested in OTC was Yuki. Any Intel on her?
ChicaLovr22
08-20-22, 12:07
So I was at curves the other day during the week. Went for lunch beer / hamburger. Only dancer I saw that I was interested in OTC was Yuki. Any Intel on her?That name sounds familiar. What did she look like?
Curious520
08-20-22, 14:24
Venom is $10 for a table dance and depending on the dancer you can touch pretty much whatever you want.How does a table dance work? In reference to my post about the strip clubs in Montreal, the girl took the guy to a side area where there are small booths with a seat. The guy sits in the seat and the girl dances for one song. Is the table dance literally on a table in any given location in the building?
Gilligan46
08-20-22, 18:02
How does a table dance work? In reference to my post about the strip clubs in Montreal, the girl took the guy to a side area where there are small booths with a seat. The guy sits in the seat and the girl dances for one song. Is the table dance literally on a table in any given location in the building?A table dance is AT the table. It is also called a chair dance, lap dance or floor dance. All the same thing. A VIP room dance is different.
ShakenGrind
08-20-22, 20:09
How does a table dance work? In reference to my post about the strip clubs in Montreal, the girl took the guy to a side area where there are small booths with a seat. The guy sits in the seat and the girl dances for one song. Is the table dance literally on a table in any given location in the building?She's not literally dancing on the table, if that's what you mean. You'll get some grinding. Touching the body is acceptable. Some will let you touch the breasts. But that was more common pre-covid. Don't count on being allowed to touch the pussy tableside. If you're looking to really have fun you'll need to go to the champagne or VIP rooms. Champagne room is typically $25-30 per dance. VIP is whatever you're able to negotiate with the dancer. Venom & the boat are the high mileage clubs.
ChicaLovr22
08-20-22, 20:11
How does a table dance work? In reference to my post about the strip clubs in Montreal, the girl took the guy to a side area where there are small booths with a seat. The guy sits in the seat and the girl dances for one song. Is the table dance literally on a table in any given location in the building?Here in Tucson a table dance is exactly what the name implies a table dance. You pic your table where you would sit and get drinks. The girls come and ask if you would like a dance, the they push you back away from the table and they start to dance on you while you are on your sit. If you like a more private dance different places have a couple of secluded area where you can get dances too. Some are just couches on the side of the place and others are rooms with more privacy where some fun can be have. Just remember it is different at every place, However, they all have table and chairs for you to get table dances. Price is normally $10 a dance but some try to charge more be aware of that. Also, private dances can vary from $25 to $30 depending on girl, but if you manage to set a bulk price and have some fun too for that price then you are in luck.
Believe me when I say Tucson has been much better that other states and cities I have been too for strip clubs except for Mexico. Now, that's a place to get fuck and fuck some gorgeous women.
Good luck on the strips, before I forget better places here to have fun are the boat and Venom.
Just FYI!
I knew I'd seen a post on this girl. Saw her last week. She wears glasses, thick ones, and is maybe 5'1" w / o the heels. Her floor dances are terrible. Like really bad, she just sits on you and wiggles. Which on second thought isn't really all that bad! LOL.
Another update is someone has told her that she is worth a lot, so her bargain days are definitely over. Good news is she's open to negotiate, at least on the slow day that I saw her she was, $300 was her starting point. If we pay her the $300, we aren't going to see very much of her.
She is a cute little sexy-nerd sweetheart, I think she said she just turned to 20 years old. Be nice to her, but definitely worth time if you find her.
Get her while she's hot. This is her fourth day working, she's built and beautiful and doesn't know what's she's worth. Let her name her price and you'll be pleasantly surprised! Took us several minutes to get it in she's so tight!
Dennis1234
08-21-22, 18:57
I went with a buddy to check out the scene after lunch SAT. I got a 2 dances from a Cuban that was pretty hot and nice body. I think named Vanessa but not sure. She said does a lot more in private room. I grabbed a burger and my buddy took her back there. Said she went straight for the back corner. He was quoted $400 for CFS and $200 for HJ. He did 2 songs instead. Not sure if these are bad prices as have been out of the game. She speaks Spanish only but uses a translator. I think she was worth maybe $300 CFS.
Curious520
08-22-22, 00:47
She's not literally dancing on the table, if that's what you mean. You'll get some grinding. Touching the body is acceptable. Some will let you touch the breasts. But that was more common pre-covid. Don't count on being allowed to touch the pussy tableside. If you're looking to really have fun you'll need to go to the champagne or VIP rooms. Champagne room is typically $25-30 per dance. VIP is whatever you're able to negotiate with the dancer. Venom & the boat are the high mileage clubs.
Here in Tucson a table dance is exactly what the name implies a table dance. You pic your table where you would sit and get drinks. The girls come and ask if you would like a dance, the they push you back away from the table and they start to dance on you while you are on your sit. If you like a more private dance different places have a couple of secluded area where you can get dances too. Some are just couches on the side of the place and others are rooms with more privacy where some fun can be have. Just remember it is different at every place, However, they all have table and chairs for you to get table dances. Price is normally $10 a dance but some try to charge more be aware of that. Also, private dances can vary from $25 to $30 depending on girl, but if you manage to set a bulk price and have some fun too for that price then you are in luck.
Believe me when I say Tucson has been much better that other states and cities I have been too for strip clubs except for Mexico. Now, that's a place to get fuck and fuck some gorgeous women.
Good luck on the strips, before I forget better places here to have fun are the boat and Venom.
Just FYI!Thank you for the valuable feedback, guys. It is appreciated. What exactly are the key differences between a champagne room and a VIP room? Is there a charge for just being able to enter the room? If it's 25 to 30 for a private dance, does that often include FS if, say, several songs are paid for up front? It is different for every girl no doubt, but what is the general monetary damage for such an experience?
ChicaLovr22
08-22-22, 10:25
Thank you for the valuable feedback, guys. It is appreciated. What exactly are the key differences between a champagne room and a VIP room? Is there a charge for just being able to enter the room? If it's 25 to 30 for a private dance, does that often include FS if, say, several songs are paid for up front? It is different for every girl no doubt, but what is the general monetary damage for such an experience?Let's see venom has the cabanas. There is a $30 charge to get in and No it does not includes the service in there. You will have to arrange that out side the room before hand so you don't get screw. The boat has two places the VIP which is more like a room with curtains which gives a bit more privacy there is a charge for this room I can't remember what is the cost as I changed lately, now the Champagne Room. This room is more of a shared room with lots of couches and some small size walls every 6 ft. There is absolutely no privacy but still many find a way to get business domes if you find the right corner. No charge for this room just the agree payment to the girl. Rule of thumb, never enter any of these places without protection and without having agreed on a price and service you are expecting in there. If you do not do this be expected to get shit and taken advantage of. The same goes for the other strip clubs in town some have privacy some not.
Billybutthead
08-22-22, 22:49
Thank you for the valuable feedback, guys. It is appreciated. What exactly are the key differences between a champagne room and a VIP room? Is there a charge for just being able to enter the room? If it's 25 to 30 for a private dance, does that often include FS if, say, several songs are paid for up front? It is different for every girl no doubt, but what is the general monetary damage for such an experience?The cabanas at Venom are relatively private. There are three or four of them on the west side of the club. The cabana is a small room about 6' by 6' with a curtain. Inside there is a small round table and a large stuffed chair with no legs. Nothing else. So what happens in there is between you and the dancer.
At the boat, in VIP, the doorman can come in and snoop around if they desire. Some dancers are more sensitive to this than others but in general they all are very aware of the doorman. I was in the Champagne room once during the pandemic when it was free and if I recall correctly, the doorman could also poke his head into the private area. As well. If the doorman comes around they act like they are giving legitimate dancers. I find this very distracting.
Cabana story: one time I was in a Cabana with my all-time favorite dancer. I was sitting in the big, stuffed chair and she stood up on each arm facing away from me. She backed up into my face and bent over. Fun for both of us. Needless to say, she had already lost her g-string.
TucsonMonger
08-23-22, 00:09
Met a dancer named London. Built like a brick shit house. Fake but nice well done titties. Was pretty forward about "adult fun" but would not discuss specifics. Any one had any action or information regarding this one?
Let's see venom has the cabanas. There is a $30 charge to get in and No it does not includes the service in there. How much time does that $30 buy you? I hate to think that it's $30 a song just for the rent, and then whatever to the dancer on top of that.
How much time does that $30 buy you? I hate to think that it's $30 a song just for the rent, and then whatever to the dancer on top of that.The $30 pays the club for 30 minutes in the cabana. You need to negotiate anything else with the dancer.
Dennis1234
08-24-22, 11:03
I went early afternoon and the girls not very pretty. A few bigger girls. An older mixed girl was like "let's fuck in the cabana". Not my type. I went back at at night and just dead again. Maybe 8 girls. Most of the time nobody on stage. I got zero dances. I work weekends so hoping one weeknight works. I hoped to see the preggo Kim.
I hit The boat and got a few dances. Bring your own condom for the Cuban girls. CFS definitely available there with a decent Cuban in the champagne room. I just got a couple dances. On the floor, one cute spinner but she said does no extras in champagne room. I was looking to see if I knew anybody from pre-Covid times and didn't know a single girl. One girl looked cute names Candy. She decided not to dance that night.
Anybody have an info on Candy at the boat? I would like to meet her.
DirtyDeedsDone
08-24-22, 15:38
I went with a buddy to check out the scene after lunch SAT. I got a 2 dances from a Cuban that was pretty hot and nice body. I think named Vanessa but not sure. She said does a lot more in private room. I grabbed a burger and my buddy took her back there. Said she went straight for the back corner. He was quoted $400 for CFS and $200 for HJ. He did 2 songs instead. Not sure if these are bad prices as have been out of the game. She speaks Spanish only but uses a translator. I think she was worth maybe $300 CFS.The ladies that are from the place that make really good Cuban cigars are truly a menace and overly overly aggressive and not worth even talking to them. And they are asking way too much for a fun time. They all are asking virtually the same exact pretty price, as if they're all being pimped out by someone.
MongerLuv69
08-25-22, 20:17
The ladies that are from the place that make really good Cuban cigars are truly a menace and overly overly aggressive and not worth even talking to them. And they are asking way too much for a fun time. They all are asking virtually the same exact pretty price, as if they're all being pimped out by someone.Very hot table dance with lots off touching. Did not do VIP with her but should be hot. No English. But I speak Spanish. Will try her. On back wall and had free reign of her body when she was blocking to floor view got free touch on body. She has been her 4 months and randomly works mostly during day. There are several recent Cuban immigrants that are at the Boat now.
What's the timing on being logged out by the system?
I was logged and writing an essay. When I went to post the clever shit I was logged out and the system wasn't able to process the request.
I'm getting old dude, so when shit comes out of my feeble mind it's pretty much gone.
Now I have to rewrite the damn thing, just like in catholic school, and I'll probably still get a C.
What's the timing on being logged out by the system?
I was logged and writing an essay. When I went to post the clever shit I was logged out and the system wasn't able to process the request.
I'm getting old dude, so when shit comes out of my feeble mind it's pretty much gone.
Now I have to rewrite the damn thing, just like in catholic school, and I'll probably still get a C.So, I end up doing this about 75% of the time if I think I'm going to write a lengthy review. Open up a work document, write my review, read through it. Make any needed edits for words spelled wrong or any other little english mistakes. Check it to make sure it says exactly what I want it to say, then copy and paste it to the forum. Pretty easy to do and saves a lot of those "how did I miss that" moments.
Thanks for the tip.
So, I end up doing this about 75% of the time if I think I'm going to write a lengthy review. Open up a work document, write my review, read through it. Make any needed edits for words spelled wrong or any other little english mistakes. Check it to make sure it says exactly what I want it to say, then copy and paste it to the forum. Pretty easy to do and saves a lot of those "how did I miss that" moments.
Venom dead. Saw maybe 2 dancers and cabanas empty. At the boat no. Must be a lot of Cubans here. Lots of Latin music. Not real busy either.
I'll try this again. LOL.
I'm looking for info on the following cuties as far as OTC or CR extras.
Indica- cute, petite, Jamaican model in her 20's. Splendid frim apple bottom ass and firm a cups. Great flloor dance and loves to be touched, sweet personality.
Savannah or samantha (too many days have passed) - late 30's early 40's, decent face, killer curvy body. Excellent sensual / sexual floor dances, lots of grinding and fitting the boy with clothes on. Very hot and seemed to imply fun in private.
Petite latina with flaming rose tattoo between her a cups and a hooded dude on her left breast. Killer, tight petite body, decent floor dances but seemed distracted or bored.
Killer petite gal on stage with 2 strings on covering her nipples (no boobs to speak of) and pussy, great tight ass and killer legs, short dark brown or black hair, attitude and great pole work. I really want to know about her, she rocked my brain! As she was leaving stage she called out to a regular sitting near their dressing room by the bas "hey cowboy' to which he replied "hey cowgirl". Man, if you're on this forum I'd love any info on her please! She spent a lot of time in CR room.
Thanks all for the constant info. Nice t see we're still having fun out there. Be safe, stay clean, and keep the flagpole rising and wet!
Shy.
PoopSnicker
09-10-22, 20:25
I visited the boat Thurs afternoon. Was approached by a cute Cubana with big titties and a nice phat ass. She offered a dance I said yes. She grabbed my Russell the love muscle. I knew she would be down to fuck but I was curious how much it would cost- would it cost me my cellular bill or my car payment. We want back to the private area and she told me 475. I giggled. I can get three gorgeous mexicanas in Nogales for that. I politely declined that. Selina sat down next to me. I rode the Selina love bus before Covid. She has the look I like but she is more aggressive now. She is a dirty little freak. She let me finger her and gave me a nice dick rub. I love latinas but at a reasonable price. I don't think I will go back to the boat. The AMP scene here or in phx is a far better value.
ShakenGrind
09-11-22, 10:49
No wonder this board has become really quiet. I was there yesterday afternoon. The place was dead. Then, around 5 PM, a whole army of Cubans arrived. They're aggressive, with no charm or class at all. Alexa from Curves is a classy lady. Unfortunately, I haven't seen her in ages. Nevertheless, if you want confirmation at a SC you have to spend to find out. I took a couple of Cubans to the cr. Natasha was a waste. No dancing at all, really. Just tried to upsell. The second one was a little better. Total damage was $125, so, I can't complain too much. It will be a while before I head back to the boat.
I visited the boat Thurs afternoon. Was approached by a cute Cubana with big titties and a nice phat ass. She offered a dance I said yes. She grabbed my Russell the love muscle. I knew she would be down to fuck but I was curious how much it would cost- would it cost me my cellular bill or my car payment. We want back to the private area and she told me 475. I giggled. I can get three gorgeous mexicanas in Nogales for that. I politely declined that. Selina sat down next to me. I rode the Selina love bus before Covid. She has the look I like but she is more aggressive now. She is a dirty little freak. She let me finger her and gave me a nice dick rub. I love latinas but at a reasonable price. I don't think I will go back to the boat. The AMP scene here or in phx is a far better value.
MongerLuv69
09-12-22, 23:29
I visited the boat Thurs afternoon. Was approached by a cute Cubana with big titties and a nice phat ass. She offered a dance I said yes. She grabbed my Russell the love muscle. I knew she would be down to fuck but I was curious how much it would cost- would it cost me my cellular bill or my car payment. We want back to the private area and she told me 475. I giggled. I can get three gorgeous mexicanas in Nogales for that. I politely declined that. Selina sat down next to me. I rode the Selina love bus before Covid. She has the look I like but she is more aggressive now. She is a dirty little freak. She let me finger her and gave me a nice dick rub. I love latinas but at a reasonable price. I don't think I will go back to the boat. The AMP scene here or in phx is a far better value.Just today asked Selena for afternoon OTC and she quoted $400. Would not drop a penny. I told her AMP full service about $140. No budge. Oh well looks like Fuzu. FS $1. 4 with a smile and orgasm and happy.
ChicaLovr22
09-13-22, 20:53
Just today asked Selena for afternoon OTC and she quoted $400. Would not drop a penny. I told her AMP full service about $140. No budge. Oh well looks like Fuzu. FS $1. 4 with a smile and orgasm and happy.Someone should tell her to read this! That way she can educate her self on economic. Supply and demand as well as recession times. If she believes she can get 4 from OT She is out of her fucking mind. We had better than her at a more economical price and we can still just head over to AMP and have the same if not better at a fraction of the cost. The girls at The AMPs are making bank because they are not greedy they understand the goal is in numbers not on $$$ signs.
MongerLuv69
09-14-22, 03:09
Someone should tell her to read this! That way she can educate her self on economic. Supply and demand as well as recession times. If she believes she can get 4 from OT She is out of her fucking mind. We had better than her at a more economical price and we can still just head over to AMP and have the same if not better at a fraction of the cost. The girls at The AMPs are making bank because they are not greedy they understand the goal is in numbers not on $$$ signs.Seems like someone is telling all these new Cubanas to ask for $400 also. No price drop. Three trips to AMP with full service. For that. And enthusiasm with hot wet orgasm.
Ikkyu Sojunn
09-14-22, 18:37
Good day shift crowd. Lots of quality and the Cubans have moved in.
DirtyDeedsDone
09-15-22, 14:39
Good day shift crowd. Lots of quality and the Cubans have moved in.I'm pretty sure that this isn't a Hip hip horray moment having "The Best Cigar Makers" moving in is a good thing. I truly think this will be a really bad move on the club. I'm not happy. I like it there. Maybe not as much now. They may have run off the drunk I haven't seen her the last few times that I've been.
BillyFish1
09-16-22, 12:54
Which is the best club to see skinny white blonde dancers? I haven't seen any the last few times I've been to the boat.
TylerPerelli
09-16-22, 14:10
This is guide #2.Thanks. Have been looking for these and hope to share to Phoenix forum.
Was blessed to have some wonderful times back in the day at the Tucson Candy Store. Now Venom.
TylerPerelli
09-16-22, 14:15
This is guide #2.Great advice from a professional hobbiest.
TylerPerelli
09-16-22, 14:23
This is guide #3.Lord I miss the days when there was an unwritten code between dancers and customers.
Mutual respect between the parties and good times at reasonable prices, leaving both parties happy.
My journey started in Mexico, then Tucson, then Phoenix.
The Phoenix club had cycles of allowing fun and allowing no fun. Have had great times in most major clubs in Phoenix at on time or another.
Moved from in the club action to take out with dancers.
The attack on back page changed things. Much like I won't risk street fun, I now won't risk escort fun. Find a dancer that will be a personal escort.
Also miss the days when LMPs provided service equivalent to AMPs.
DirtyDeedsDone
09-16-22, 17:37
Which is the best club to see skinny white blonde dancers? I haven't seen any the last few times I've been to the boat.I would say Curves world be your best bet for the blondes.
I stopped at Raiders Friday afternoon. Karen came by and was very friendly. I stuck with a couple of floor dances which were good and she encouraged touching. She said it was slow. Lots of variety of dancers. I certainly didn't see anyone more appealing than Karen.
TucsonMonger
09-18-22, 21:52
I stopped at Raiders Friday afternoon. Karen came by and was very friendly. I stuck with a couple of floor dances which were good and she encouraged touching. She said it was slow. Lots of variety of dancers. I certainly didn't see anyone more appealing than Karen.Well maybe if it stays slow enough, she will go back to sucking dicks.
MongerLuv69
09-19-22, 02:14
Well maybe if it stays slow enough, she will go back to sucking dicks.Riddle me this —-.
If you go up to the dancer on stage to give the dollar and she seems hot then invite her to your table.
Again after a bit of talk and touch do you get a table dance to see if she is hot or.
Just go right to the private VIP area after asking if you will be able to do touch and feel all over.
Just wondering. Have done both with good and bad results.
Sunday there were more dancers then guys in the early afternoon. A few really interesting ones. One named Riley attracted me but had to run and did not get chance to try her out.
DirtyDeedsDone
09-19-22, 12:47
Riddle me this -.
If you go up to the dancer on stage to give the dollar and she seems hot then invite her to your table.
Again after a bit of talk and touch do you get a table dance to see if she is hot or.
Just go right to the private VIP area after asking if you will be able to do touch and feel all over.
Just wondering. Have done both with good and bad results.
Sunday there were more dancers then guys in the early afternoon. A few really interesting ones. One named Riley attracted me but had to run and did not get chance to try her out.It's a perfect time to get things rolling when you tip them on stage. Perfect time to even ask a few basic questions. Not all the fun fun conversation, but asking her if she's available after she gets off stage or if she's entertaining someone else at the moment. When she comes by ask her to sit for a second and start with a bit of chat chat then to the things that interest you the most on what you'd like, or expect. Or just ask what she's comfortable with. Some will say depends on what you're willing to spend. That's a perfect time to discuss all the details and or expectations. It's worked for me for forever. Good luck to you.
MongerLuv69
09-19-22, 20:59
It's a perfect time to get things rolling when you tip them on stage. Perfect time to even ask a few basic questions. Not all the fun fun conversation, but asking her if she's available after she gets off stage or if she's entertaining someone else at the moment. When she comes by ask her to sit for a second and start with a bit of chat chat then to the things that interest you the most on what you'd like, or expect. Or just ask what she's comfortable with. Some will say depends on what you're willing to spend. That's a perfect time to discuss all the details and or expectations. It's worked for me for forever. Good luck to you.Today there was a 22 year old Cubana with a beautiful face and great attitude. A little chunky but beautiful. Got a table dance with more then usual touching including under g string. Asker her about more in VIP and she said not much because of manager. They must have warned her and she believed them.
But said yes to meeting outside in a motel. Did not move to detail like price and what I want her to do for me. Speaks almost no English but I speak fair Spanish. Here name is Angel.
DirtyDeedsDone
09-19-22, 22:42
Today there was a 22 year old Cubana with a beautiful face and great attitude. A little chunky but beautiful. Got a table dance with more then usual touching including under g string. Asker her about more in VIP and she said not much because of manager. They must have warned her and she believed them.
But said yes to meeting outside in a motel. Did not move to detail like price and what I want her to do for me. Speaks almost no English but I speak fair Spanish. Here name is Angel.Sad that a few of the managers really pressure the dancers for extra money if the dancer isn't tipping her fair share at the end of her shift. And that particular manager in question will make her money harder to make since she isn't sharing more then she should. A tad extortion. I know that I've mentioned this before, sadly. If a manager is getting his fair and above tip out that dancer is good.
Went to raiders and venom Sunday. Raiders had like 3-4 girls, so I took off. Went to venom. Also 3-5 girls but by then I wanted a drink. Sitting at the bar, no one approached me. There was on short, thick Latina named Lexi sitting next to me. After some chit chat, got a few table dances. Used her shin to rub me but that was it. Asked if she played in the cabanas and she said she did. For $200 you get maybe a HJ. Needless to say I declined. Then this sweet black dancer named Danielle came over and I got some dances. She says she likes to get $200 in the cabanas but was willing to work with my budget. I got the feeling $150 was her low end, and she offered an HJ for that. I told her I don't pay for something I frequently do myself.
I sure miss the pre pandemic days with Diane Carmen Royce CC. No one wants to have fun at all any more it seems. (Sigh).
MongerLuv69
09-20-22, 20:50
Why no posts about it?? Been many years since been there. Is it ok?
Why no posts about it?? Been many years since been there. Is it ok?The set up doesn't really allow for extra fun.
MongerLuv69
09-21-22, 00:16
Raider is full of 6 to 8 each shift. Talked with American who is not happy with this invasion. They were allegedly brought here as a group paid for by the owners. They have a lock on the earnings. They are young and seem to follow orders. The will do FS but want $400.
Most of the clients are 50 to 70 and in this economy are not paying that much. I can cat 3 FS at AMP for that amount. BBBJCIM and a smile. Can not speak to the Chinese but also same for most with Spanish.
This place is full of women right now. Some are Cuban as, but there is a good mix.
TucsonMonger
09-21-22, 22:07
This place is full of women right now. Some are Cuban as, but there is a good mix.Any play to be had with all these hunnies present?
Ikkyu Sojunn
09-21-22, 22:35
Any play to be had with all these hunnies present?Mostly dead now. I'll update after shift change.
DirtyDeedsDone
09-21-22, 23:08
Why no posts about it?? Been many years since been there. Is it ok?The reason nothing is being said about Tens is there's nothing going on at Tens. The upstairs is ridiculous priced entry fee alone. I've never seen anything going on, except one Asian dancer. Pretty with beautiful fake titties. I've never discussed anything about upstairs since upstairs entry is too much. There's a 51 to 49 prevent ownership with Tens and the Deja Vu organization. They price it like an upscale club in New York. It won't survive forever like it is.
TucsonMonger
09-21-22, 23:24
Mostly dead now. I'll update after shift change.Used to be that I couldn't walk into the place without at least getting my dick sucked.
Any play to be had with all these hunnies present?I was at venom, so pretty hot girls, some Cubans. Anyway I was sitting at the bar and this black dancer came over and was making nice. Told me she was a 150 girl in the cabanas. Then a woman named Jeanette approached me, started tickling me and said we should do some dances. She said she already had 5 shots and does normal $10 dances and $15 dances, where she gets all up in your shorts. The name rang some faint alarm bells, so I said let's try a 10 dance. Went back to the the coach and began what I think would have been a 15. We got to talking about the cabanas and she said she was a 150 girl. But she was aggressively pushing for the 15 dances and / or the cabana. When I said let's stick to the $10 dollar dances she got irritated and there was no reasoning with her. She finally got in a huff and left me sitting there. So I went back to the bar and Monica joined me. She's An older Latina, but she gives some great dances. She is a 200 girl, but would want 4-5 OTC and it would be at least a double shot on goal with no specified game time limit. Doubt I'll take advantage of it, but based on our time together, I'm pretty sure it would be a lot of fun. She had to go on stage, so I was sitting in the back corner waiting for her to return, when Jeanette comes out of the smoking area. She sees me sitting there and it was like we never met 30 minutes earlier; she flat did not remember me. She started turning on the charm and told her I was waiting for Monica and she said if I need anything just find her, while rubbing her cooch. Weird! Then I went to the boat and it was dead and pretty much only the Cubans were there. So I headed home, stopping by sapphire at 7 (per the post that said that's when the best time to go, to release the tension I had built up, but there were too many of you guys there already so I went home. 😤.
TucsonMonger
09-22-22, 19:48
I was at venom, so pretty hot girls, some Cubans. Anyway I was sitting at the bar and this black dancer came over and was making nice. Told me she was a 150 girl in the cabanas. Then a woman named Jeanette approached me, started tickling me and said we should do some dances. She said she already had 5 shots and does normal $10 dances and $15 dances, where she gets all up in your shorts. The name rang some faint alarm bells, so I said let's try a 10 dance. Went back to the the coach and began what I think would have been a 15. We got to talking about the cabanas and she said she was a 150 girl. But she was aggressively pushing for the 15 dances and / or the cabana. When I said let's stick to the $10 dollar dances she got irritated and there was no reasoning with her. She finally got in a huff and left me sitting there. So I went back to the bar and Monica joined me. She's An older Latina, but she gives some great dances. She is a 200 girl, but would want 4-5 OTC and it would be at least a double shot on goal with no specified game time limit. Doubt I'll take advantage of it, but based on our time together, I'm pretty sure it would be a lot of fun. She had to go on stage, so I was sitting in the back corner waiting for her to return, when Jeanette comes out of the smoking area. She sees me sitting there and it was like we never met 30 minutes earlier; she flat did not remember me. She started turning on the charm and told her I was waiting for Monica and she said if I need anything just find her, while rubbing her cooch. Weird! Then I went to the boat and it was dead and pretty much only the Cubans were there. So I headed home, stopping by sapphire at 7 (per the post that said that's when the best time to go, to release the tension I had built up, but there were too many of you guys there already so I went home. 😤.Monica is just nasty looking. Also, she is a bait and switch artist when it comes to the cabanas.
MongerLuv69
09-22-22, 23:26
There are about 6 customers on the floor for about 12 dancers. Did not see any that totally turned me on but might good night for discount favors.
Arizona Junkie
09-23-22, 00:45
Why no posts about it?? Been many years since been there. Is it ok?I had to drop off a vehicle at the shop next door, and had some time before my ride was going to pick me up so I wandered over to Ten's. Thought maybe I could score a burger lunch special and see if anyone on the dayshift looked interesting. First it was after 1 pm, so the burger special had expired. Other than 3 or 4 guys sitting around the bar (obvious regulars), I was the ONLY customer in the club. The guy that checked me said they only had one girl working, and something about girls being sick and it's hard to get them to come in on weekdays. I got a bottle of water and figured I would wait for the one girl working. The girl that took the stage had the biggest ass and thighs I've ever seen in any strip club over the last 30 years, well beyond BBW status. I waited for the song to end, tossed he a couple of pity bucks, and hit the door. I have no idea if the night shift is much better, but this daytime visit was a complete waste of time. There was a time 10-15 years ago when the dayshift was hopping with a dozen or more real hotties. Drinks and dance prices were reasonable, and there was some limited fun to be had behind the stage curtain and / or upstairs. No more. Not even close. You've been warned.
Curious520
09-23-22, 08:03
Went to Raiders recently. Pretty dead, was a week night. Thick-ish girl with a lot of tattoos took interest in me. She definitely wanted my money. Kept dancing in front of and on me, and wanted to go VIP or whatever. She got about $30 out of me in dances and tips because I was weak. She was a bit sweaty and I could smell her puss, and it was not pleasant. The tattoos were also distracting. Bolted soon after. Still smelled like her when I got home. She would be cuter if she took better care of herself physically.
There was a girl by the door who was following up on an application and was informed she was hired. I didn't get a great look at her but she looked like she might be pretty hot.
I came in and had a good time with diamond. But when she was done "holly" took my dick in the throat.
Gilligan46
09-26-22, 01:36
I stopped at curves Saturday afternoon. Saw nothing exciting and after 20 minutes and no waitress to buy a drink, I left.
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