Strip Club Reports

[Dick North]

Who the hell are any of 'us' lol?

Don't worry, I'm sure the vice dudes know that some hanky panky *might* go on in a club. Leaving out specifics is good enough.

We'd all like to think we've got some special knowledge on the game. Fact is, the cops are mongers too, and have no trouble whatsoever figuring out quickly, if they havent already known for years, what we like to believe is some special knowledge in finding pussy.

Ed

I respect your opinion and I guess in the greater scheme of things, your ideas make a great amount of sense. Still tho, we should preserve what monger opportunities that we have. I have had family members who were in law enforcement and I concur that they know what is going on in the community. My point is simply that we deny as much damaging info that we possibly can.

Glad you liked the photo of the AMP girls. Was that incredible or what?

DN

[Merlin Magician]

Went in search of Amie, Angel, or Isis. Did not find any of them. However, the ladies were circulating and plenty of offers were to be had. Had couple of nice dances off Paulina, a buxom blonde. Nice Nice body.

Then I find Lydia, a damn fine Latina. And I do mean Damn fine!!! Wonderful dances that left me wanting to get married. Oh YEahhhhhh!!!

[Kirstyforme]

Went in search of Amie, Angel, or Isis. Did not find any of them. However, the ladies were circulating and plenty of offers were to be had. Had couple of nice dances off Paulina, a buxom blonde. Nice Nice body.

Then I find Lydia, a damn fine Latina. And I do mean Damn fine!!! Wonderful dances that left me wanting to get married. Oh YEahhhhhh!!!
I wonder if we crossed paths yesterday MM. I too went in search of Amie yesterday with no luck. I also noticed the nice bevy of ladies circulating. In my case Riches came by and I was a bit flattered she remembered me from the previous week. She not only remembered me but even remembered the things we talked about. Needless to say she took good care of me yesterday!

VIP was a bit crowded but from the looks of things mongers were having a good time in there. I know I was, lol!

[Dick North]

I don't live in Tuscon or near Tuscon. I only WISH I did. But I do follow this thread. So, based on the present ongoing debate, my post is:
"I went somewhere. I had an okay time. I spent some money."
I imagine a lot of my fellow mongorers will be helped a great deal by my post.
hahaha. Sorry, I just had to.
(sits back and awaits flames now :-)

I suppose that I could go to the Madison forum and throw darts at you guys. Would that be fair. Do I have a real understanding of what is going on in Madison, WI ... No!. Do You have a real understanding of what is going on in Tucson, AZ ... No!

But in spite of that, I love the state of Wisconsin. Lots of Nordic women, beautiful country and great cheese!

When you come to Tucson, let's get together ... and please bring some cheese.

It was an ok post. Mildly acidic ... but ok.

Take care

DN

[Ed...]

Sorry, had to add that. MY ATF graduated from U of W in Madison.
Blonde hair, big green eyes.
INGRID, WHERE ARE YOU!!? Sigh....


Dick, (can I call you Dick?),

Holy crap, I'd love to have that as wall Murial!

I meant to mention forwarding your Phx masi-post pics to LOS, I guess that photo is one of the reasons he indeed does love the land of smiles!

[Sexhobbyist]

I found myself without a liaison today from my female pimp so I ventured to one of Tucson's local establishments; because a day without poontang is a day without sunshine.

I immediately ran into one of my top two ATFs. We went to the VIP and spent about an hour catching up while I let her have her way with me. I've learned to just let her loose while I just go along for the ride. She is one of the two best sex partners I've ever had. Ever. We always enjoy each other's company, and, for me, it's gratis which makes it all that much sweeter.

Something interesting was going on in the VIP while we were there. Three customers were sitting alone on the couches. In comes a popular dancer who goes to one of them and performs an amazing feat while the other two customers watch the action. As soon as she finishes with one customer, she moves to the next and does the same thing. When she finished there, she went to the third customer and did her job again. This was funny and amazing to watch, because of the interest from the other customers and because she performed as if it was all in a day's work. She never broke her stride as she floated from customer to customer like a butterfly.

Other notes from today:
Juicy Amie stopped by to say hi. She's a honey. Watching her it's easy to see that she enjoys her job and takes pleasure in making her customers happy (get your mind out of the gutter, I mean that in the nicest possible way, not in a nasty way). She is a classic seductive, sultry dancer and Sexhobbyist recommends her.

Once again, I recommend Elle. If you like big naturals, and I mean big, then you can't find a sweeter dancer than her. Take the time to talk to her and you'll see why. Oh, and just try to take your eyes off those big breasts. You can't do it. Take her to the VIP.

I got a couple of floor dances from a new dancer named Sunshine--a tall, blond with pigtails and glasses and nice perky b-cups with a juicy, and I mean a NICE juicy, butt. She did an admirable dance, but I couldn't take her to the VIP (no room!). She's been working for about a week and hasn't yet been trained by the maestro.

I saw another Forum member in action in the VIP this afternoon, I'm sure he'll post about his experience so I won't steal his thunder; but, from where I was standing, he'll have lots to talk about.

Late in the afternoon it got so crowded the VIP wasn't an option as there was a line waiting to get in. That's the problem with Fridays at any of the clubs. Johnny Paycheck is there spending his weekly allowance clogging up the works. (My 2¢ worth.)

Once again today I heard from two different sources about two dancers to avoid. Both have been mentioned by others on this forum as good VIP dancers. Senior members can PM me for the names & details. These two will mean trouble if you indulge them. Fair warning.

That's it for now. I'm all caught up. Back to my private action tomorrow.
Sexhobbyist

[LoveLOS]

I guess that photo is one of the reasons he indeed does love the land of smiles!I just wanted to be one of the hundred guys that were assigned to service the girls there. I've been in a few orgies before, but that one would be a hoot.

DN, I kinda felt you came down too hard on Jwny. He used my tactic of reporting a juicy report, and left out both dancer names and establishments. I think that works for most of us.

Fucking SH, glad the lady pimp thing is still working for you. You are definitely proving me wrong. Again. Dammit.

LL

[Showpaldude]

Dick North,

Hahaha Dick. Glad you have a good sense of humor. My post was meant as nothing more then a bit of humor. Absolutely no insult was intended. I just happen to have a bit of a sarcastic sense of humor like that. Glad you weren't offended.

I'll be HAPPY to bring you some cheese if I venture down to Tuscon. I'd really love to do that someday and spend a couple weeks vacation, primarily in the strip clubs:.). You're always welcome to the cheesehead state, but I don't want cheese. I've got plenty. Bring along one or more of those strip club dancers. That will suffice.

[LoveLOS]

DN,
As a fellow board leader, I agree with your sage advice that temperance in posting sensitive details is prudent and intelligent.

On the other hand, as a monger (which somehow implies some decreased level of prudence, if not intelligence), I have been just as guilty as anyone, possibly the worst offender, for writing the porn stories with graphic detail!

I am obviously on the fence about the whole matter, so I must concede the point... :D

BTW-when are you coming east? We need to party DC style, mybrotha.

LoveLOS

[Paul Stearn]

You are truly a legend in your Own Mind!

DN - I'm on your side.

[MyThicBrew]

Hey Everyone,

I was able to get to the CS a bit earlier in the day last Friday. It was certainly an interesting day. First, I arrived at about 2:30 PM which is a lot earlier than I am usually able to get away. I've been wanting to get into the clubs earlier a day or two in the week when possible and I can see why so many of you guys love the day time. 3

Very soon after I got there our own Amie was announced to go to the stage. Now I've never met her and definately wanted to introduce myself and say Hello,,. I don't even get my Hello,, out and she is saying, "Hi, you are MythicBrew. " LOL! She said she would be right over to see me. Guys she is a real sweetheart and beautiful too. I was amazed. 8^)

So I'm waiting for Amie and this brunette named Julia comes over and sits in my lap. Another looker and friendly too. I had heard of her but not met her before either. A couple of minutes later over walks Amie just as she said she would. So I'm trying to diplomatically say to Julia that I'm busy but I like her company and certainly would want to have some time with her a bit later. Amie gives Julia a hug and this sexy kiss and tells me she would check on me later since I was in good hands. Nice!

Interesting that Julia knew my name, when I usually come in, and even named my regular evening time dancers. I had not met her before and this was the first time she danced for me. I knew the girls talk but still I was surprised this time by just how much. This is proof positive that these girls really do talk and word spreads. What you do or say in the club gets around, positive or negative, so my advice is to always treat the girls with respect and kindness.

So Julia and I head to the VIP. It was packed! I have never seen the VIP so crowded. There was a line of maybe 4 persons waiting, some of the couches actually had more than one dancer with their customers. I've seen the club more crowded overall on a Friday evening but never the VIP this much.

So here I am blocking the door, dodging waitreses, and trying not to be the mountain in the middle of the room and not succeeding very well. 8^) I don't like crowds all that much and normally I would have left for another time. But Julia was great, even though we were both waiting she kept giving me a lot of personal attention and was a real pleasure to spend time with. Once we finally got a seat she actually made me forget that everyone was crammed in there like ants on honey. She is good!

I wish it had been longer but I got a call from work after about 5 songs and had to step out for a couple of hours to make a meeting I hadn't expected. I was having a good time with Julia and was hoping to circle back around and get to know Amy as well. Both are sweethearts and deserving of your attention. Treat them well!

So I was able to return to the CS a couple of hours later. Unfortunately they were both gone. I'm looking forward to meeting them again. The good news is I returned in time to hit that sweet spot that sometimes happens on Friday early evening where there are some dancers still left from the day and some others from the night are arriving, the dancer to customer ratio isn't hugely lopsided, and the VIP is available and not too crowded. Many dancers will work a double shift on Fridays so that time can be a bit hit or miss but when it is on it is great. I got some dances from some of my favorites that I've missed while I was away on business travel.

Back to the main floor to relax and have a good cigar. A couple of buddies show up, one a good friend and long time member of this forum, and we all have a good smoke and admire the ladies. Not long after one of the dancers I know in and out of the club comes over to me. I can tell she is in a great mood and is having lots of fun and living in the moment. She starts dancing for all of us, a few songs with one, then a drink or two then more dances with the others. Next thing I know she goes to the dressing room and comes back out in street clothes. She sits in my lap and and chats for a bit. She gets a couple more drinks. Then she jumpes up, decides to take her street clothes off right there, and dance some more. It was pretty wild. She was on fire. She has a couple more drinks. Then she goes over to one of my compadres, climbs on top of him facing him and stands up, he leans back to take in the view she is showing him. She then turns around, pulls her panties way down exposing all of her but then loses her balance and falls back hard from about 2 feet down on his face with her ass. His face gets crammed way up her butt and with a very loud whack the back of his head crashes hard into the wall behind him. I'm surprised the mirror didn't break or his nose wasn't broken. I'm even more surprised he got his face extracted. I was laughing so hard I couldn't see anymore. And my bud is seeing nothing but stars. Somehow she doesn't fall off but climbs down and has no clue what just happened.

K, so at this point I think it is time to tone things down a bit. I get her car keys and get her calmed down and sitting there talking, relaxing, resting some of it off. And then one of the waitresses comes over and tells me she is going to report this dancer to management. I told her no, that she is ok, that I will keep her out of further trouble, and doing that is only going to get the dancer fired and may cause some I'll will between the waitress and some of the dancers. I know this waitress pretty good and convince her and get her to calm down too. Damn, I should change my handle from MythicBrew to StripClubTherapist. LOL! Then the dancer, not having actually paid attention to any of this conversation that happend a foot away, gets up, decides she is going to get completely naked and give me and my friend a blow job in the main floor area. Well as tempting as it was to take her up on it and move things to the VIP for discretion, I don't take advantage when someone is hammered like that. And by this time this girl was completely gone. It was time to get her out of there. I manage to have her keep her g-string (mostly) on and tell the other dancers next to us she is ok. After a brief bit of drama where she can't remember where she had placed her pants and tennis shoes, we convince her it is time to leave. She tells me she forgot to pay the DJ. She gets into her purse, money starts falling out all over the table and floor, and she tries to pay the DJ like $50 for the DJ fee. I pick up her cash and put it safely away for her, take two fives, and she pays the DJ the right amount. Sorry dude! I make sure she gets home safe. Wow, interesting night.

But it didn't end there. I get a call from another one of my regs. She is wondering if I'm back in town yet. I meet her at her place as she had just cooked a great meal (she is an awesome cook! ). She feeds me and then wants me to go back with her to the club. Ok so for the 3rd time I'm back at the club. She gets dressed in a new outfit, all black and white and very skimpy in all of the right places. She looks incredible. We go into the VIP where surprisingly it isn't as crowded as I thought it would be. I'm there for a while with her. She is one of my ATF dancers. For the 2nd time in just a few hours I'm completely satisfied. And did I mention she is a tremendous cook? Sorry guys, this one's name I'm not sharing at the moment. I love the meals too much! LOL

I left about 1:30 AM. What a crazy but very good day. Can you tell that I miss the club? LOL,

Hey SH,

Sounds like I just missed the action you described. My day would really have been over the top if it had started that way. LOL. As you can see I had a lot to talk about. ! 8^)

MythicBrew




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Something interesting was going on in the VIP while we were there. Three customers were sitting alone on the couches. In comes a popular dancer who goes to one of them and performs an amazing feat while the other two customers watch the action. As soon as she finishes with one customer, she moves to the next and does the same thing. When she finished there, she went to the third customer and did her job again. This was funny and amazing to watch, because of the interest from the other customers and because she performed as if it was all in a day's work. She never broke her stride as she floated from customer to customer like a butterfly.

Other notes from today:

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I saw another Forum member in action in the VIP this afternoon, I'm sure he'll post about his experience so I won't steal his thunder; but, from where I was standing, he'll have lots to talk about.

Late in the afternoon it got so crowded the VIP wasn't an option as there was a line waiting to get in. That's the problem with Fridays at any of the clubs. Johnny Paycheck is there spending his weekly allowance clogging up the works. (My 2¢ worth.)

Sexhobbyist

[jwny72]

Just wanted to add my 2 cents re: the controversey surrounding explicit posts.

It's my belief that anything going on in the places we talk about is easily enough found out by anyone. I assume that LE knows about the goings on, but there's some hush money being floated so they pay no mind. I believe there's a correllation between The Candy Store's proximity to the military base and the permissive atmosphere there, it is war time after all. There may be occaisional crackdowns that coincide with election years, but for the most part, what goes on in the CS and other places is known about and tolerated, after all, who's it hurting?

There's my 2 cents.

[Mel07]

Went to CS on saturday and I finally managed to do two things. Get a dance both inside and outside the vip. It took me three tries of goin here with no dance offers whatsoever. I was about to give up on it. Good dance nothin as spectacular as some posts Ive read but it was a good flashback to the underground clubs in philly.

[Sexhobbyist]

Sexhobbyist can recommend Rayna at CS.

[Juicy Amie]

Stopped by at CS with a couple of friends yesterday at around 6:30pm. Now I can see the frustration that many have had with this club. A lot of dancers but very few walking around asking for table dances. Oh well, was waiting for a couple of the night shift dancers anyways.Have you ever gone in during the day?

[Juicy Amie]

Went in search of Amie, Angel, or Isis. Did not find any of them. However, the ladies were circulating and plenty of offers were to be had. Had couple of nice dances off Paulina, a buxom blonde. Nice Nice body.

Then I find Lydia, a damn fine Latina. And I do mean Damn fine!!! Wonderful dances that left me wanting to get married. Oh YEahhhhhh!!!I missed you again damn, check your pm. I'll talk to you soon.

[Juicy Amie]

I wonder if we crossed paths yesterday MM. I too went in search of Amie yesterday with no luck. I also noticed the nice bevy of ladies circulating. In my case Riches came by and I was a bit flattered she remembered me from the previous week. She not only remembered me but even remembered the things we talked about. Needless to say she took good care of me yesterday!

VIP was a bit crowded but from the looks of things mongers were having a good time in there. I know I was, lol!We seem to be missing each other a lot latly, but I know my friends take care of you guys and if they don't just let me know.

[Juicy Amie]

I found myself without a liaison today from my female pimp so I ventured to one of Tucson's local establishments; because a day without poontang is a day without sunshine.

I immediately ran into one of my top two ATFs. We went to the VIP and spent about an hour catching up while I let her have her way with me. I've learned to just let her loose while I just go along for the ride. She is one of the two best sex partners I've ever had. Ever. We always enjoy each other's company, and, for me, it's gratis which makes it all that much sweeter.

Something interesting was going on in the VIP while we were there. Three customers were sitting alone on the couches. In comes a popular dancer who goes to one of them and performs an amazing feat while the other two customers watch the action. As soon as she finishes with one customer, she moves to the next and does the same thing. When she finished there, she went to the third customer and did her job again. This was funny and amazing to watch, because of the interest from the other customers and because she performed as if it was all in a day's work. She never broke her stride as she floated from customer to customer like a butterfly.

Other notes from today:
Juicy Amie stopped by to say hi. She's a honey. Watching her it's easy to see that she enjoys her job and takes pleasure in making her customers happy (get your mind out of the gutter, I mean that in the nicest possible way, not in a nasty way). She is a classic seductive, sultry dancer and Sexhobbyist recommends her.

Once again, I recommend Elle. If you like big naturals, and I mean big, then you can't find a sweeter dancer than her. Take the time to talk to her and you'll see why. Oh, and just try to take your eyes off those big breasts. You can't do it. Take her to the VIP.

I got a couple of floor dances from a new dancer named Sunshine--a tall, blond with pigtails and glasses and nice perky b-cups with a juicy, and I mean a NICE juicy, butt. She did an admirable dance, but I couldn't take her to the VIP (no room!). She's been working for about a week and hasn't yet been trained by the maestro.

I saw another Forum member in action in the VIP this afternoon, I'm sure he'll post about his experience so I won't steal his thunder; but, from where I was standing, he'll have lots to talk about.

Late in the afternoon it got so crowded the VIP wasn't an option as there was a line waiting to get in. That's the problem with Fridays at any of the clubs. Johnny Paycheck is there spending his weekly allowance clogging up the works. (My 2¢ worth.)

Once again today I heard from two different sources about two dancers to avoid. Both have been mentioned by others on this forum as good VIP dancers. Senior members can PM me for the names & details. These two will mean trouble if you indulge them. Fair warning.

That's it for now. I'm all caught up. Back to my private action tomorrow.
SexhobbyistThank you for correcting yourself, there for I minute I got a little worried. At least it is too dark in the club for you to see me blushing. Oh and about your fav outfit, I don't wear it that often because it is hard to take off, but will be wearing it for a little today.

I haven't had a chance to talk to sunshine, but am intriged by her. Definetly would give her a chance if I was a costumer.

[Juicy Amie]

I figured you were in good hands and we would see each other again and I know you had fun I saw you walking out of VIP.

[Juicy Amie]

Went to CS on saturday and I finally managed to do two things. Get a dance both inside and outside the vip. It took me three tries of goin here with no dance offers whatsoever. I was about to give up on it. Good dance nothin as spectacular as some posts Ive read but it was a good flashback to the underground clubs in philly.Most of my fav dancers work during the day during the week. Mon, Tues, and Thur. If you can make in in those times perferably before four thats when most of them leave. You might have a better time.

[Juicy Amie]

Weither you want to here it or not.

Things are going on in all the clubs, all you have to do is get to know the dancers. Believe me I've worked in at least four clubs here in town. There is not one thing going on in a club that is not going on in any other club. So its kinda hard to say hey he definetly went to this club. I'll agree on secretsies, it keeps it fun in the clubs. We don't want to go back to tipping a dancer three feet away, or at least I know I don't. Seriously give the guy a break you slapped him on the wrist and he knows he did wrong, so its over.

I recently met him and he is respectful and does not cross boundries, I enjoyed meeting him and have seen him quit a few times since. I would have to say I would rather dance for him then some other people who could care less what us girls are working hard for. SC you know what I'm talking about.

Oh, and by they way being naked and religion does not mix, so please do not bring your politics into the clubs.

[Merlin Magician]

Amie Every time you sit in my lap, I feel like going to church. I know I holler Oh!! Jesus!!! a lot...

[Netveg1]

Have you ever gone in during the day?In the past, quite often. Not so much recently. Like I said, this was the first time I found frustration at the club. Nowadays, I hit the club mostly at night with a good friend and a good cigar. I find the VIP to be too busy during the day time and not much of a challenge anymore.

The fun of this hobby for me is the challenge and flirting with the girls rather than the fulfillment. Let's face it, nowadays its easy enough to get what you want in any of the clubs. All you have to do is open your eyes, select the dancer, make your way to the VIP and open your wallet. Well, I can do that at home

[Netveg1]

Dang it. I hit submit instead of preview, didn't finish my last reply and I can't recall exactly where I was in my rant and since I'm not senior yet, the posting is delayed.

Anyways, back to what I was saying.

My enjoyment in the hobby is derived from getting to know the girls rather than the act of fulfillment. Its the chase rather than the kill. I enjoy flirting with the dancers and waitresses, talking to them and getting to know them. I'm very particular with who I'll get dances from and usually avoid those who I know will fulfill my desires with the simple act of opening my wallet. Granted, it may take time, but when and if it happens, its a shitload more enjoyable. Of course, there are times when you just need instant fulfillment, and thats when knowing the right girls come in handy. :p

[Sexhobbyist]

Things are going on in all the clubs, all you have to do is get to know the dancers. Believe me I've worked in at least four clubs here in town. There is not one thing going on in a club that is not going on in any other club.

True words, Amie. Speaking from experience, the "phenomena" is now in all the local clubs--some venues more so than others, but it's in all of them.

Sexhobbyist recommends Candy at the CS. Enough said.

Sexhobbyist

[Merlin Magician]

Again tonite, I go to CS and find Amie leaving already. Damn ! That woman can pack a pair of jeans...

I sit around CS for two fuggin hours and got maybe two dance offers. A lot of the girls would drop by and say hi but boogie off to a pre set date or the VIP room. One poor lady ( bless her heart) tried to give me a freebie dance but, by then, I was so totally out of the mood. I begged off claiming a severe headache.

I take off to the Boat. I need to find my little waitress. Damn! She ain't working tonite. Shitt!!! I had plenty of offers there and most were stunners. However, since I didn't want to go through the routine of sniffing out what would go on in the VIP, I decided to boogie from there, especially after Angel kicked my drink in my lap. Nothing like a cold beverage dumped in your pants to ruin a mood.

I decide I will try the Bunny Ranch, having never been there. Then I got to thinking about all the shit that has happened there recently like dudes getting killed in the parking lot. Fuck that!

I settled on trying out Turbulence by the airport. Outstanding choice, I find out happily. 12 cover, soft drinks only @ 6.50 a drink. dances 10 topless and 20 bottomless. VIP is 20 entry and 20 a dance. If you look at it, it ain't that much more expensive than the other clubs.

I had been inside not two minutes when I was immediately set upon by Lexxie. A cutie blonde with a dynamite bod. Had a couple of dances, totally outstanding. She took off to go on rotation on stage.

Right away, Magenta comes by and offers a dance right away. Had a couple or three dances with Magenta, a totally knockout little blonde, before she had to do her rotation.

Immediately after, here comes Nikita, a wild little Ukrainian beauty with some nice DD bolt ons. I had few dances and ran out of money right quick. I didn't want to stop.

What variety!

I got four more offers before I could make it to the door.

I got more dances tonite at Turbulence than I have had in the last month combined at CS or Boat.

Anyhow, I, as everyone knows, am growing tired of bitching about poor service in all the regular clubs I have been frequenting here. I now know I been fuckin up all along by not trying Turbulence sooner. I damn sure got spoiled tonite. After this, I don't think Boat, CS, Curves, TD's, or Tens will see my smiling face again. This is a place where the girls all know what makes them money and that is circulating the floor and not cherry picking.

[Sexhobbyist]

Anyhow, I, as everyone knows, am growing tired of bitching about poor service in all the regular clubs I have been frequenting here. I now know I been fuckin up all along by not trying Turbulence sooner. I damn sure got spoiled tonite. After this, I don't think Boat, CS, Curves, TD's, or Tens will see my smiling face again. This is a place where the girls all know what makes them money and that is circulating the floor and not cherry picking.

MM,
Here's my review of Turbulence:
This my lowest rating for any club west of Tampa, Florida. I went there in the afternoon (Wednesday) and I was the ONLY customer. There were four dancers there. Mystique was the only one dancing on stage (two dances). After her two dances, the DJ would play a couple of songs with nobody on stage. Then Mystique would be back on stage for two more dances...she kept reappearing on stage as the only dancer. Was I to assume the other three dancers (a paltry number, by the way) had broken legs and couldn't be on stage? No. Instead one was at the bar flapping her jaw with the waitress. Another one bolted for the dressing room as soon as I arrived and never showed her face again. The fourth, Roxy, emerged from her den, talked to the DJ for about ten minutes, then finally asked if I wanted a dance. I agreed to a VIP dance.

When I arrived at the club, the club bouncer explained that the table dances were $10 each, topless VIP was $20 each, and nude VIP was $30. Admission to the VIP (they call it "First-Class" lounge) was $5. These represent the highest prices in town for VIP dances. Imagine my surprise when Roxy hustled me: "Do you want my $30 dance or $40 dance." I mentioned that the dances were supposed to be $20 or $30. She said that she had some terrific moves to make the $40 worthwhile. I bought the $40 dance because she was very attractive with her cute A-cups, tanned body, and pretty face and I was yearning for "some terrific moves."

What a disappointment! Let me put it this way...zero mileage, zero contact, zero, zero, zero. No eye contact, no smile, no personality, no attitude. It was worthless and certainly not worth $40. For that price, other clubs give you a lot more bang for the buck and a lot more "attention" from the dancer. The $40 was a Vegas price, not Tucson, yet the dance was completely unimpressive. It was cold shower time.

I went back out to the tables after politely declining another dance from Roxy. Mystique was coming off stage (again) and she wanted to dance for me. I bought a table dance for $10 thinking that if there was going to be any redeeming value to this place, it might be decent table dances. (After all, the other Tucson clubs charge $5 to $8 for their table dances and they can certainly be a barometer for judging the desireability of taking a dancer to the VIP for that affordable amount.) Since I was the only customer in the place, I figured the table dance ought to be pretty spectacular for $10. I figured that she would certainly want to impress me since I was the only one with any money in the entire building and could make her day profitable, but noooooooooooooo. It was lame and I was very disappointed.

The dancer yapping at the bar got some food and disappeared into the dressing room and was never seen again. Mystique was back on stage after I declined another table dance and her request for a VIP dance. (I can't figure out why the other dancers weren't doing their fair share of stage time when none of them were busy.) This was not a good experience. It certainly wasn't a "Tucson experience" as local mongers know. This club won't be recommended and I won't be back. It was a waste of time and it's a rare occassion when I give a bad review so heed my warning.

I believe this club exists only for the hotel traffic along the airport corridor and it is not meant for local monger consumption.

This is my very own review that I posted on another website about Turbulence. I stick by it. Nothing's changed. I'm happy to concede the territory to Merlin.
Sexhobbyist

[Paul Stearn]

Gee SH maybe you should have quoted yourself: "Yesterday I got three booty calls from dancers who wanted me to service them. All three are freebies and like me for my equipment ("This is the biggest white dick I've ever seen!"). "

And just maybe they would have taken you to the VIP and had their way with you.

:-)

[Sexhobbyist]

Gee SH maybe you should have quoted yourself: "Yesterday I got three booty calls from dancers who wanted me to service them. All three are freebies and like me for my equipment ("This is the biggest white dick I've ever seen!"). "

And just maybe they would have taken you to the VIP and had their way with you.

:-)

From your mouth to God's ears. If only. But, alas...
Turbulence's dancers don't have the good sense to know that the ONLY customer in the place is there to spend money. What a waste.
Sexhobbyist

[MyThicBrew]

Hey Everyone,

A heads up to keep your eyes wide open and be careful. Two reliable dancers told me that Uncle LEO was in the club on Friday and took one of the dancers away.

MythicBrew

[Pugilist]

I am not at all surprised by the idiocy practiced and condoned at Turbulence. Most of you know I used to work in the doorman business. When the place was opening, I saw the jerk they hired to be the lead DJ. That in itself showed me that these people have no clue how to run a club. I have never been in there since. I knew I wasn't missing anything.

[rupert1]

went to the candy store today, it seemed to be dead. Was there for about 1 hr, no dances offered. The girls seemed to have disappeared once they got off the stage. Maybe it is tarting tobe slow time of the year. I guess it is a hit and miss thing. Maybe next time I'll have better luck.

[Juicy Amie]

Every time I've been to turbulance I've had a blast, but then again I've only been in there after ten. Thats when the hotties are in.

[Dick North]

Hey Everyone,

A heads up to keep your eyes wide open and be careful. Two reliable dancers told me that Uncle LEO was in the club on Friday and took one of the dancers away.

MythicBrew

Thanks for the report MTB. This doesn't surprise me.
Hopefully LEO didn't get taken into the vip.

I am curious though, if the clubs in Tucson have a house manager who supervises the dancers. I know that Christies Cabaret in Phoenix has an older woman who occasionally can be seen up on the second floor watching the dancers.

I suspect that you and Sexhobbyist would know if this is the case as you both seem to know a lot of the dancers and the innerworkings of the clubs.
The reason I ask is that I believe that dancers should somehow be coached to know that they don't ever take anyone into the vip unless they know that their customer is 'ok' first. I know this implicates the 'manager' but am curious if this couldn't somehow take place in the clubs. Now granted I don't know exactly what this test would involve. Maybe touching a boob would suffice. Any other mongers have any input on this?

It is my understanding that LE is not allowed to partake in certain activities like explicit touching etc., but if they can get into the vip and observe an activity that they see as illegal ... then the dancer and her customer are toast.

I know that Sheriff Joe Arpaio set up a major sting of amps and incalls in Phoenix years ago and he provided money and allowed his officers to 'enjoy' the services. Most of the cases got thrown out because of that. In other words LE is not allowed to commit a crime to arrest someone else for the same offense.

Just curious, it would seem that this might be a good way to further protect our hobby.

Some dancers though, have a tendency to 'display' themselves during a table dance. Even that will probably be cause for an arrest if observed by LE.

Certainly a tough issue. I guess it pays to be ever vigilant.

Take care all

DN

PS. Juicy Amie. Your opinions would be greatly appreciated.

PS # 2. Last week when I was at Christies Cabaret and had a dancer on my lap, a manager came up and said 'You may not touch her there" (meaning her boob). I asked the girl what the heck that was all about since the guy knows me and I'm in there a lot and she stated that he said that not to you, but to the guys at the other tables whom he doesn't know.
An interesting point that she made. Seconds later I was again enjoying those 36c's

[Sexhobbyist]

I am curious though, if the clubs in Tucson have a house manager who supervises the dancers.

I suspect that you and Sexhobbyist would know if this is the case as you both seem to know a lot of the dancers and the innerworkings of the clubs.


Short answer: No.
Long answer: Most of the clubs here have a "senior" dancer who is kinda the "mom" that they all go to. By "senior" I don't mean old. I mean it as in longevity/tenure. Many clubs around the country are employing a "house mom" to take care of the dancers and to manage the backstage activities--everything from costume mending to love life advice. The dancers tip her and take care of her. That position is one that is usually reserved for the larger clubs. It's not a position that is common here in Tucson.
Sexhobbyist

[Sexhobbyist]

Hey Everyone,

A heads up to keep your eyes wide open and be careful. Two reliable dancers told me that Uncle LEO was in the club on Friday and took one of the dancers away.

MythicBrew

The dancer told an undercover cop in the CS that she was 20. Someone bought her a drink (unclear if it was the undercover cop or not). She got busted for it. In the dustup it was discovered she was actually 23. No foul. She was back at work on Saturday. There's more...for senior members only. PM me if you want details.

Be careful. Things are happening. Fair warning.
Sexhobbyist

[Juicy Amie]

All clubs have a manager, but not all clubs have a house mom as far as I know none of the clubs in Tucson have a house mom. Basically it is up to us ladies as to who is ok or not. If we aproch the manager about a costumer it depends on the manager if they get thrown out or we have to ignore them. Usually the costumer is given one to three warnings and then is escorted out of the club depending on what they do.

What I have seen in the clubs that I have worked in is that the ladies who have been there a while are the ones who let the new girls in on all the secrets and let them have the heads up on certain people and other issues.

Ultimatly again it is up to the dancer as to what does or does not happen while giving a dance.

Hopefully that helps a little.


Thanks for the report MTB. This doesn't surprise me.
Hopefully LEO didn't get taken into the vip.

I am curious though, if the clubs in Tucson have a house manager who supervises the dancers. I know that Christies Cabaret in Phoenix has an older woman who occasionally can be seen up on the second floor watching the dancers.

I suspect that you and Sexhobbyist would know if this is the case as you both seem to know a lot of the dancers and the innerworkings of the clubs.
The reason I ask is that I believe that dancers should somehow be coached to know that they don't ever take anyone into the vip unless they know that their customer is 'ok' first. I know this implicates the 'manager' but am curious if this couldn't somehow take place in the clubs. Now granted I don't know exactly what this test would involve. Maybe touching a boob would suffice. Any other mongers have any input on this?

It is my understanding that LE is not allowed to partake in certain activities like explicit touching etc., but if they can get into the vip and observe an activity that they see as illegal ... then the dancer and her customer are toast.

I know that Sheriff Joe Arpaio set up a major sting of amps and incalls in Phoenix years ago and he provided money and allowed his officers to 'enjoy' the services. Most of the cases got thrown out because of that. In other words LE is not allowed to commit a crime to arrest someone else for the same offense.

Just curious, it would seem that this might be a good way to further protect our hobby.

Some dancers though, have a tendency to 'display' themselves during a table dance. Even that will probably be cause for an arrest if observed by LE.

Certainly a tough issue. I guess it pays to be ever vigilant.

Take care all

DN

PS. Juicy Amie. Your opinions would be greatly appreciated.

PS # 2. Last week when I was at Christies Cabaret and had a dancer on my lap, a manager came up and said 'You may not touch her there" (meaning her boob). I asked the girl what the heck that was all about since the guy knows me and I'm in there a lot and she stated that he said that not to you, but to the guys at the other tables whom he doesn't know.
An interesting point that she made. Seconds later I was again enjoying those 36c's

[Kirstyforme]

I tried to respond to your PM but got an error saying you've exceeded your stored quota, lol!

Hope to see you tomorrow!

[Juicy Amie]

I tried to respond to your PM but got an error saying you've exceeded your stored quota, lol!

Hope to see you tomorrow!Its fixed now. I'll see you tomarrow.

[Sexhobbyist]

Sexhobbyist recommends you avoid Cherise, a black dancer with enhanced (hard) boobs. Senior members can PM for the medical reason.
Sexhobbyist

[Kirstyforme]

Man, what a day. Planned trip into CS with a friend of mine (lady) to have some fun. Decided to go in earlier to scope out who was working and make sure we'd be well taken care of. Sit down at a table and order a drink...look to my left and see a friend of mine. Hmmm, now what? Decide it's cool (since I'm alone) and chat with him for a bit. Figure all is well and I get things lined up for later (thanks Amie!).

Leave and come back about an hour later with my lady friend. Look around for an empty table and find one between the two stages. Sit down and order our drinks. As I'm casually looking around the room I see to our left another good friend that knows I shouldn't be there and certainly not with a lady friend! Now what? I know he's seen me and my company. I'm just dying inside so I tell my lady companion what's up and tell her just to be cool...wasn't sure if I'd have to introduce her or not. What do you do at this point? Can you say awkward?

In the end things turned out well as he left the club shortly and then I could relax and enjoy my company and the dances we both got!

What a day in the life. What are the odds....

[Member #3235]

The dancer told an undercover cop in the CS that she was 20. Someone bought her a drink (unclear if it was the undercover cop or not). She got busted for it. In the dustup it was discovered she was actually 23. No foul. She was back at work on Saturday. There's more...for senior members only. PM me if you want details.

Be careful. Things are happening. Fair warning.
Sexhobbyist


I am baqck on the scene as I am now single again, (I always put the hobby on pause when I am dating) but I was actually going to go somewhere today, since I am newly single. Should i avoid CS and maybe do the boat or TD's west? Please let me know your opinion.

P.S. I am not a senior member but have been here and a contributor for years.

Thanks

[Juicy Amie]

I just thought I would let those of you that like to go in on the weekends know that I will be there today until four (I race tonight) and more then likely tomarrow I will not be back in here until Monday, I have a busy weekend.

Have fun!

[Merlin Magician]

3235 I certainly do not recommend TD'S west or east. Read all of the reviews here for this and last year You will not find many good reports.

CS is sometimes pretty good but the prime girls all stay very busy or just sit around bullshitting and not circulating. It is definitely hit or miss. Sometimes, however, even a blind hog can upoot a nice acorn...

The Boat has been pretty consistent and the VIP section is 10 bucks a dance. I always find the waitresses there are always better in my lap than the dancers. Same with their sister store,the Curves Cabaret.

I go into Ten's lately and always find no girls on the floor; just like at TD's west.

Of course, I have had excellent luck at Turbulence this last two weeks. They girls are so persistent for dances that I run out of cash too soon. I can go to CS and sit around for 5 hours and not spend what I can spend in an hour at Turbulence.

Other people here trash Turbulence, but I find out the dancers don't like certain people who post here, and that is why those people get treated like shit at Turbulence.

[Sexhobbyist]

Other people here trash Turbulence, but I find out the dancers don't like certain people who post here, and that is why those people get treated like shit at Turbulence.

I've been to Turbulence one time. That was one time too many. The girls there didn't know who I was so it was a bad experience based upon poor service, bad management, and lousy entertainment. The girls don't know who Sexhobbyist is, so they can't make a judgement based on who posts here.

Even if they did know who I was, it would be in their best interests to make sure I had a spectacular time so that I would write glowingly about them. If they do treat customers like shit because they don't like what is posted about them, then they'll never get good business. What a stupid attitude they have if that is the case. It reinforces my original review of the place. Don't waste your money going there.
Sexhobbyist

[Dick North]

Had an opportunity to vist CS on Fri. at about 2:30 pm. Only had an hour to spend so I was rushed.
Had great table dances from 'Honey' and 'Tiara' ... and then comes 'Bobbi'! I really like this girl! She has always been a sweetheart to me and I enjoy her company. She actually has a 13 yr old daughter, but you would never know it from looking at her body.
Other that that everything seemed ok at CS except for a reclusive looking character at the main stage sitting on the left side towards the back.

DN

[Merlin Magician]

Hey! I'm just reporting what the Turbulence girls tell me. They read this board too. They have several someone's in mind and maybe S/H may not be among them.

[LoveLOS]

Other that that everything seemed ok at CS except for a reclusive looking character at the main stage sitting on the left side towards the back.Maybe that was Merlin? Couldn't have been SH, he stays in the VIP. :D

Oh master SH, this may make you proud of your padowan learner.

LL

[Merlin Magician]

Not me LL! I never get that close to the stage. I usually lurk off upstairs in the back.

[Juicy Amie]

It was probably our weekly stalker (as we like to call him) MM and SH never sit close to the stage they like to enjoy their dances.

[Dick North]

It was probably our weekly stalker (as we like to call him) MM and SH never sit close to the stage they like to enjoy their dances.
Didn't mean to create a ruckus over this guy, but he disturbed me enough that I thought worth mentioning. After noticing that he didn't look at the dancers on stage and waved off every table dance offer, I became even more suspicious.

I was nervous while receiving my table dances and I didn't like that feeling. It seemed as though this guy was studying the patrons rather than the dancers.

Take care all

DN

[Member #3235]

I actually went in on Saturday to CS and had good experience would have been great ..but the girl who while she was hot, she was obviously ingesting something that altered behavior enuff said. It was a saturday around 1 only two of us in VIP (Nice) so it was a good time. My performer was a tall pretty blonde PM for info.

[Dick North]

I actually went in on Saturday to CS and had good experience would have been great ..but the girl who while she was hot, she was obviously ingesting something that altered behavior enuff said. It was a saturday around 1 only two of us in VIP (Nice) so it was a good time. My performer was a tall pretty blonde PM for info.

I would bet that I know who you are talking about. On Friday, my first table dance was from a tall blonde and I forgot her name so I didn't mention her in my original post. She was a hot dancer and then she asked if she could come back later and 'would I buy her a drink?'
That's probably the same girl.

DN

[Kirstyforme]

Anyone been into the CS since yesterday's smoking changes took effect? Did you notice any difference in the atmosphere or in the number of customers?

I'm just curious how the clubs are dealing with the new law...

[Juicy Amie]

I am also curious I have not been to work since Monday.

[Joebbb]

Anyone been into the CS since yesterday's smoking changes took effect? Did you notice any difference in the atmosphere or in the number of customers?

I'm just curious how the clubs are dealing with the new law...The activity that is. Iwent yesterday and saw two ppl smoking outside and signs posted. Place was full. Got a floor w/Riley and had to wait for vip as it was full. Worth the wait though.

[Kirstyforme]

I am also curious I have not been to work since Monday.

Made it in to CS yesterday afternoon over lunch. There were plenty of customers and dancers to go around. Probably the best part of the new law was that when I left my clothes didn't smell like stale cigarette smoke. I did notice that they had the air cranked way up for some reason which made it pretty cold in some parts of the club.

Only spent about an hour there but left very satisfied.

[Kirstyforme]

Dropped by again today on lunch break. Place was unusually busy. Hard to find a table...finally took up residence at a table upstairs. Amie kindly told me I was seated in a not so flattering location so we decided to move to a better seat (VIP). Thanks Amie! I meant what I said today...you're a real gem.

VIP was full the entire time I was there. Standing room only when I left (several dancers and customers were lined up to take our couch when we left). From the looks of things there were plenty of satisfied mongers today.

[LoveLOS]

BB and I send our regards to all our friends in AZ. Hope you guys had a great 5de5 party. We did our best here in the east, but the chicas are more friendly out there.

268 days...

LoveLOS

[In the Shadows]

Drove down from Phoenix today and when to the check out candy. It was crowded and I got a few table dances and then was approched by Amiee. She is a very sweet girl with great sex apeal. I REALLY enjoyed the time I spent with her on the floor and in the VIP. She recommended another dance and I got a very happy ending in the VIP. Someone got quite a show, but by then I was to involved to care. Thanks everyone for the info and thanks Amiee for great first visit. See you soon.

[Member #3235]

Stopped in saw some regs tried to get a dance from Reina or Rayna anybody got any info on her she was cute if so please pm. Thanks team

[Sexhobbyist]

Stopped in saw some regs tried to get a dance from Reina or Rayna anybody got any info on her she was cute if so please pm. Thanks team

Sexhobbyist can recommend Rayna (and has done so in the past). Enough said.

[Member #3235]

Thank you sir you are a true gentleman!




Sexhobbyist can recommend Rayna (and has done so in the past). Enough said.

[Sexhobbyist]

Sexhobbyist guide to strip clubs, part 4: the reference

Mongers ought to know to use all the legitimate tools at their disposal to advance their agenda with a dancer. One of those tools is the reference, the referral, the name-drop.

I was at a local club today, a Sunday. I don't usually patronize the clubs on Sunday, but I wanted to make some lucky dancer a happy Mother's Day. It wasn't busy. I had my choice of dancers so I took a young Latina up to the VIP. This was the first time I'd been with her. She started kinda weak. Just when I thought it might be a bad choice to waste time with her, she started getting into the mood. She never did anything overt other than position my equipment in such a way that she could grind against it to get her horny. She was beginning to warm up. I could tell because she was moaning softly. She started asking me about what I did for a living. When I hear this, I take it as code for fishing to see if I was LE. I told her that I was a regular customer during the week. I gave her four names of dancers that I usually frequented during the week. Her next words were, " Oh, [dancer x] is a friend of mine. It's been almost two months since I had sex. My boyfriend hasn't touched me and you're making me so horny. I took you for an undercover cop." I assured her that I wasn't. Her disposition changed once my "references" were disclosed. She got into my shorts and pulled me out and began an admirable hj. She climbed on my lap and pulled her fabric to the side and began rubbing her clit with me. She was getting very horny. I pulled out a condom and, in a flash, she grabbed it out of my fingers, tore open the package and slipped it on. The next thing I knew, she had climbed on and was in control as she took charge to get her rocks off. She didn't hesitate a second. It was all about her getting to climax. I was along for the ride and I came at the same time she did.

This is now the eighth time in fifteen years I've had fs from a dancer on the first dance. It also demonstrates the importance of the reference in setting your dancer at ease. Pay attention to the dancers that dance for you. You just might be able to use them in the future to pave your way to the honeypot.

One more thing. If you have the equipment, I've learned to just let the dancer do the prep work. They know what will turn them on and they'll take the opportunity to position you in such a way to get the most out of the dance for them as well as you. It's amazing how much the right stuff can make it easy for you to get what you want; even if it's not the climax you were hoping for, it will still end happily for you. I've found that they are willing to pay a lot more attention to you if you have something they want, other than money. Or, something they enjoy as much as money. It's all about the greenbacks, but enjoying themselves along the way is a job benefit; and, for some, they get more out of their job than most if you just let them take the lead.

Sexhobbyist
Happy Mother's Day to all you hard-working mothers.

[Member #3235]

I think we should call you sensei or coach or something. I will try that approach next time.





Sexhobbyist guide to strip clubs, part 4: the reference

Mongers ought to know to use all the legitimate tools at their disposal to advance their agenda with a dancer. One of those tools is the reference, the referral, the name-drop.

I was at a local club today, a Sunday. I don't usually patronize the clubs on Sunday, but I wanted to make some lucky dancer a happy Mother's Day. It wasn't busy. I had my choice of dancers so I took a young Latina up to the VIP. This was the first time I'd been with her. She started kinda weak. Just when I thought it might be a bad choice to waste time with her, she started getting into the mood. She never did anything overt other than position my equipment in such a way that she could grind against it to get her horny. She was beginning to warm up. I could tell because she was moaning softly. She started asking me about what I did for a living. When I hear this, I take it as code for fishing to see if I was LE. I told her that I was a regular customer during the week. I gave her four names of dancers that I usually frequented during the week. Her next words were, " Oh, [dancer x] is a friend of mine. It's been almost two months since I had sex. My boyfriend hasn't touched me and you're making me so horny. I took you for an undercover cop." I assured her that I wasn't. Her disposition changed once my "references" were disclosed. She got into my shorts and pulled me out and began an admirable hj. She climbed on my lap and pulled her fabric to the side and began rubbing her clit with me. She was getting very horny. I pulled out a condom and, in a flash, she grabbed it out of my fingers, tore open the package and slipped it on. The next thing I knew, she had climbed on and was in control as she took charge to get her rocks off. She didn't hesitate a second. It was all about her getting to climax. I was along for the ride and I came at the same time she did.

This is now the eighth time in fifteen years I've had fs from a dancer on the first dance. It also demonstrates the importance of the reference in setting your dancer at ease. Pay attention to the dancers that dance for you. You just might be able to use them in the future to pave your way to the honeypot.

One more thing. If you have the equipment, I've learned to just let the dancer do the prep work. They know what will turn them on and they'll take the opportunity to position you in such a way to get the most out of the dance for them as well as you. It's amazing how much the right stuff can make it easy for you to get what you want; even if it's not the climax you were hoping for, it will still end happily for you. I've found that they are willing to pay a lot more attention to you if you have something they want, other than money. Or, something they enjoy as much as money. It's all about the greenbacks, but enjoying themselves along the way is a job benefit; and, for some, they get more out of their job than most if you just let them take the lead.

Sexhobbyist
Happy Mother's Day to all you hard-working mothers.

[LoveLOS]

I think we should call you sensei or coach or something. I will try that approach next time.I love the mind tricks he uses. I am just a padowan learner when it comes to cumming in the VIP room, but those mind tricks he uses really do work. :D

I also notice from the "FS-on-the-first-trip count" that master SH is getting better too. Since the Dark Side works so well, perhaps he should be addressed as Dark Lord SH?

LoveLOS

[Dr.Monger]

I have got to get back to Tucson. My last trip was less than stellar. I went to one club, but did not have time to do much more than tip a few girls on stage before I had to leave. I was also in Tucson about ten years ago, and no luck then either, (although I did have an interesting experience with an escort) and although it was a few years ago, it sounds like SH has been getting lucky in Tucson for a while, I was just at the wrong clubs.

Tucson, I shall return!

Dr. Monger

[LoveLOS]

Tucson, I shall return!Now that's a quote I live by...

Hmmmmm, it occurs to me that the good Dr and the good Jedi Master would probably enjoy each other's company, given that I know both of you and I find you two more alike than many of my acquaintances from this forum.

Next year in Tucson, Dr?

256 days...
LL

[Sexhobbyist]

Now that's a quote I live by...

Hmmmmm, it occurs to me that the good Dr and the good Jedi Master would probably enjoy each other's company, given that I know both of you and I find you two more alike than many of my acquaintances from this forum.

Next year in Tucson, Dr?

256 days...
LL

I'm always happy to host a friend of yours.
BTW, I'll be in your area in August 2008. I know that's a long time, but my personal countdown has begun. Start prepping the talent for me.
Sexhobbyist

[Dr.Monger]

Now that's a quote I live by...

Hmmmmm, it occurs to me that the good Dr and the good Jedi Master would probably enjoy each other's company, given that I know both of you and I find you two more alike than many of my acquaintances from this forum.

Next year in Tucson, Dr?

256 days...
LL

PM me the exact dates and I will see what I can do. I never know my schedule more than a month or two in advance. But I would love to go!

Dr. Monger

[Dr.Monger]

I'm always happy to host a friend of yours.
BTW, I'll be in your area in August 2008. I know that's a long time, but my personal countdown has begun. Start prepping the talent for me.
Sexhobbyist

Prepping the talent? Oh if only there was talent to prep! (At least in Baltimore) Trust me, at the clubs here with good looking women, there are practically no extras at all. I have heard of take out at some of the top end clubs, but the numbers requested are staggering. Conversely, if you like drug addicted skanks, there are plenty available cheap. Actually, there is one stunner who inexplicably does provide extras at one club I know, but its a steep charge, which is why I have not partaken. But then, it may be no more than Tuscon rates for all I know.

Dr. Monger

[LoveLOS]

August 2008. I know that's a long time, but my personal countdown has begun. Start prepping the talent for me.
SexhobbyistWhile the SC action in DC/VA/WV pales in comparison to your domain, I have it on good authority that another friend you may have met previously is prepping some DC (ghetto) clubs for your arrival.

For my humble part, I might have to take you on an adventure to Neverland, or a similar fantasy with an eastern (far eastern to be exact) theme.

Did I PM you asking for your Aug08 dates? I forget.

LL

PS, DrM. In yer box.

[Benchseats Rock]

While the SC action in DC/VA/WV pales in comparison to your domain, I have it on good authority that another friend you may have met previously is prepping some DC (ghetto) clubs for your arrival.

Did I just hear the announcement for the next DC RT?

You can't just mention shit like this casually in the fucking Tuscon forum and not give me a call you know... thank god I RTFF.



Bench

[Cruisinman8457]

TD's West is now $5 a dance (instead of $7). Gee, I wonder why they changed that? I guess they think they will become another CS (wishfull thinking on their part).

[LoveLOS]

Did I just hear the announcement for the next DC RT?

You can't just mention shit like this casually in the fucking Tuscon forum and not give me a call you know... thank god I RTFF.

BenchSeats Rock,
Dude, Feb 2008 & Aug 2008 will both be RTs for sure (one in AZ, one in DC), but I sure hope it is not the next one!!! Looks like I am off to Neverland or Wonderland tonight. Call me.

LL

[Kamperx]

Made a stop at TD's west last week. Place was pretty dead at first, looked like heifers on parade, then the shift must've changed since a couple decent girls came out. Got a bunch of dances from Trish. Nice ass and some great nips on top of a heap of silicon.

Ended up in the VIP, she kept looking out for the boss, wasn't the 'cool one' she normally has. Still put some effort into the happy ending, altho no extras this time.

God girl and a good attitude.

[LoveLOS]

Anybody want to party this coming weekend?

Ed, lost your digits. Call or PM, por favor.

4 days...
LoveLOS

[Sexhobbyist]

This forum has quieted down lately and I suspect I know why. As for me, I've spent the last six weeks enjoying the tasty morsels provided by my female pimp. This has allowed me plenty of activity without the hassle of the club scene.

I did, however, venture into a local club yesterday and I found the VIP room to be SRO. While waiting for a seat, I watched the x-rated entertainment with amusement.

Once seated, I proceeded to get it on with a gfe from an ex of mine. There's nothing quite like make-up sex. It seems she got miffed a month or so ago when her and another dancer were tag teaming my shaft in the VIP by taking turns riding it. That, however, isn't what upset her. The fantastic threesome session came to crashing end when the other dancer began DFK me. That was the proverbial straw for my jealous ex. It wasn't the sex which all three of us were enjoying, it was the kissing. Geez. Sometimes I'm not sure how the other sex thinks. But there it is.

Enjoy and play safe.
Sexhobbyist, checking in.

[Sexhobbyist]

It's Thursday afternoon so I decided to venture out to Raider's Reef first, then Candy Store during prime time afternoon clubbing time.

RR was pathetic. They had six dancers, none of whom would rate above a "5" on Sexhobbyist's scale. It took an hour to get asked for a dance even though it was obvious I was the only one of about 10 customers that had any money. I know this because I was the only one tipping the dancers at the stage. And, still, it took an hour to get a table dance. It's not as if the place was packed with customers and all the dancers were busy. The dancers were all hiding in the dressing room until their turn on stage. Any time a dancer did venture forth to bless us with her presence, she'd walk by with her head down and scurried to her destination without acknowledging any of the customers. I had a worthless table dance from Tyra then left.

Next stop was CS. The place was jumping. Lots of customers and the dancers were everywhere. I was asked for dances by three different dancers before I even got my drink. The dancers were circulating and getting business. Dancers were smiling saying "hi" as they came by. I went to the VIP with three different dancers and had a great time. The VIP was busy. Only one place to sit. Breaking my own commandment, I took one of the YD&FofCBD to the VIP (okay, I was intrigued by a cute one with a nice personality). The action was amazing and included a condom. Another dancer I took to the VIP was nice, but not as aggressive. Her name was Chrissy. I liked her and she gave decent dances, but I'm just too hardcore for her so I didn't try anything since I wasn't invited to. The third dancer I took to the VIP was a regular of mine who knows how to take care of me. In this case, she earned her money since I'd already met with a happy situation earlier.

The contrast between RR and CS was amazing. RR seemed lifeless, drab, hostile. CS was upbeat, lively, and friendly.

When I see clubs like RR, I'm amazed they're still in business.

Sexhobbyist

[Merlin Magician]

Heard there was a lot of changes at TD's and I went in this afternoon to see. There is new mgt and the fuggers now wanted a fiver from me to park in the handicapped where I have always parked for free. Fuck their new parking fees.

Same ol chit here. Not many girls on the floor and lots of guys awaiting. Looked like six guys to one girl in the club. Many real heifers. I boogied and didn't even bother to order a drink.

I swooped over to Curves. The girls were circulating to beat hell and I had plenty of offers. I got a few damn good dances from waitstaff, as always. I guess I have yet to ever get a dance from a dancer in Curves or the Reef.

[Kamperx]

SH,

You're a true inspiration for us mongers. I've only recently started checking out the clubs, and was wondering what advice you had about tipping the ladies after a VIP session.

Is it the dances + the extras, dances + a little more, something else...? I don't want to shortchange them and endanger future visits, but also don't want to ruin things for others out there.

How the hell do they keep track of the number of dances anyway? They quote a number and I pretty much go with it, since I wasn't really paying attention to the playlist.

[Sexhobbyist]

SH,

You're a true inspiration for us mongers. I've only recently started checking out the clubs, and was wondering what advice you had about tipping the ladies after a VIP session.

Is it the dances + the extras, dances + a little more, something else...? I don't want to shortchange them and endanger future visits, but also don't want to ruin things for others out there.

How the hell do they keep track of the number of dances anyway? They quote a number and I pretty much go with it, since I wasn't really paying attention to the playlist.

Kamperx,
I gave extensive information about money, rates, etc. in my January 7, 2007 post, Sexhobbyist's Guide to Strip Clubs, part 3: Advanced subjects.

Check it out.
Sexhobbyist

[Juicy Amie]

I would say if you enjoyed the dance or extras whatever the case may be, then tip five to $20. Do read SH guide it will help you a lot.

[MyThicBrew]

Hi Kamperx,

Yes, counting dances can be challenging. Especially if you are lost in the moment. YMMV, most of this is common sense and probably known to everyone, but this approach works for me.

IMO it is important to keep track of, or at least have a pretty good estimate of the number of dances. It is not good to go way over the $$$ one is carrying and get surprised. It is bad form to be appearing to short change the dancer, or generating concern by her, or other dancers in the VIP that may see fumbling for money that isn't there, hear statements that one doesn't have enough, etc. And then running over to the ATM hoping it is working. This probably happens to everyone at some point but I try to minimize it. I want to know how much I have before starting with a dancer and not overspend what I have on me. If things are good and I need to go back to the well, I think that is best done between dancers. Also if it is taking you time to get everything together to pay your dancer and she is left waiting it isn't fair for her or good for one's reputation.

While not frequent I have had dancers tell me they did several more dances then they really have. It is good to set expectations after a few dances, "that was 4, right? Ok I'd like a few more. " Counting dances is much easier to do in the main floor for me than it is in the VIP. But with a new dancer I do count or if things heat up still try to maintain my best estimate, saying 1, 2, 3 etc. Mentally as each song starts. If I lose count I give the benefit to the dancer and add a couple more songs to my best guesstimate of the count. Then at the end if we are pretty close to having the same number everything is good, and it shouldn't be a wide variance. If the difference is just a song or two, np, I pay and give her the benefit of my doubt, maybe pay a bit more attention next time. If the difference is several then I politely set the expectation of what I think the number is, and with a good natured inquiry ask her why she thinks her number is more than what I thought. Most dancers are friendly and good natured and will not respond negatively. Another way to check, and if I had a good experience, is to say here is $x for the y number of dances and here is some extra. If there is disagreement you'll know. If she thanks you, then you know you are probably in the ballpark and likely gave her a bit of a tip. And I agree with Amie and others that it is good to tip, not overboard, but a bit more whenever possible. It is all part of the overhead and appreciation for those dancers you like.

My experience is that those dancers that try hard to up-sell the price per dance or purposefully over count the number tend not to last long.

All that I've mentioned is especially important for me with dancers I don't really know. For those dancers with whom I have established a very good relationship.- based on a lot of repeat business, a track record of honesty, no drama, and friendliness.- then I admit I don't even worry about counting. The VIP sessions are a lot better that way. But wait until you have a solid rapport and there is trust both ways. I do this with few dancers. When it comes time to pay I give my estimate based on the time spent. She will let you know if this is a good arrangement. Reassess every few visits to ensure you aren't over paying a lot or under paying. When you have this level of rapport some dancers will like to spend time with you if things are slow or after they've worked hard, made their money and want to relax with someone they like and not worry a lot about the number of songs.

How do you know if there is sufficient trust? One way is when they ask You to hold Their money. LOL. Seriously though, with a couple of dancers I sometimes do hold their money for them if I plan to be there for a while. If I'm done, or want some variety, or am relaxing with a few beers, I don't mind if she wants me to hold her cash especially if they are working the floor a lot and getting good tips on stage. Then they don't have to worry about leaving it behind, getting robbed, running to the locker a lot, etc. Be very careful with this though. You really do need to know them well and have a lot of trust, you would not want to have a problem if she thinks the amount is different. And of course you now have a big responsibility to keep a good watch, keep it separate from your own cash, keep other dancers away from it (especially ones you don't know). In general I don't do this and don't recommend it. And if it is robbed or lost then you've bought it and need to make up the difference. But for the right dancer that you know very well and trust, it isn't a bad thing and may help them relax. Always know how much she has asked you to hold. This was a bit of a digression.- I wonder what Amie's thoughts are on this?

One can also use your watch as a double check. If I assume about 4 mins per song that is 15 per hour. Subtract 2 for when she goes on stage, if there are few girls then this may happen every 20 to 30 mins so about twice per hour and if more then they are usually up in about an hour. If she is coming back to you and waiting for the next to start or taking a quick break backstage subtract 3 for when she goes on stage. Sometimes this helps to get a ballpark on the number of dances on a per hour basis, then multiply by $x for floor dances and $y for VIP. I don't watch the clock and I do like to get lost in the moment. But with just a quick glance to know when I start and some simple math in your head at the end, this is a quick double check for number of dances and total $ to be paid.

MythicBrew


How the hell do they keep track of the number of dances anyway? They quote a number and I pretty much go with it, since I wasn't really paying attention to the playlist.

[Dick North]

MyThicBrew,

Thanks for your exhaustive treatise on how to count the number of table dances.

I tend to think that if we are off a dance or two ... what the hey!. We are there drinking and having fun with the dancers and that's what we pay for.

IMHO

DN

[Sexhobbyist]

I was patronizing a local favorite club and getting table dances from a particularly lively dancer. As regular readers know, I travel commando style. She had slipped her hands into my shorts and was working the equipment with expert dexterity when she worked her finger into my...a-hole...and gave my prostate a massage all the while jacking me with her other hand to an explosive conclusion. Needless to say, my eyes popped out of my head when she made the move. I almost resisted, but decided that, based on her performance thus far, she knew what she was doing. This was a first for me although I understand it is fashionable in Asian massage parlors for this "special" treatment. It's not something that I want to repeat often, but it was a unique experience. Just when I thought I had experienced it all....
Sexhobbyist

[Juicy Amie]

I was once told by a customer that when he is getting dances he will take off his shoes (he wore sandels) first one foot and then the other then he would put them back on the same way. Someone else told me that they carry around a matchbook one match for every dance. There are a lot of different tricks to keeping track of your dances.

[MyThicBrew]

I was at the CS last night and it was a little slow. Not a lot of dancers, usual I think for the summer Monday evenings.

I got some dances + VIP from a new dancer named Texas. She is new to Tucson and has been in town apparently for a couple of weeks. She is a black dancer with a very nice tight body. While she did initially try to up-sell the cost of the dances (more than once), even asking for payment in advance for a number of dances once I got to the VIP, she remained friendly once I told her I would pay as we go and only determine a tip afterwards. I had a nice time with her overall. I think she was a bit nervous and new. I will probably repeat.

Senior members can PM me for more details.

MythicBrew

[Sexhobbyist]

First things first. My thanks to Juicy Amie for her time and expertise today. To the newbies, Amie knows what's what and is happy to assist forum members with advice and info. She was a great help to me today. I encourage you to patronize her. She's a sultry, sexy, sweetie.

I had three encounters in the VIP of a popular local club today. I don't like visiting the clubs on Friday because they are all packed with Johnny Paycheck spending his week's allowance, since it's payday. Today I found myself in the neighborhood so I stopped. I'm glad I did.

First encounter in the VIP was with Alicia who has been discussed before on this board and in PMs. This was my first trip to the VIP with her. Her reputation was known and I'd seen her in action before. She picked me, I didn't seek her; but I decided to go to the VIP anyway. (Okay, I wasn't all that reluctant, but I wasn't all that excited either.) In the VIP, she took control and performed excellently and up to her reputation except for the big happy ending. Apparently it is that time of month.

I went back to the floor and made conversation with several Latina dancers with whom I had an appetite for. Everytime a new dancer sat next to me, Alicia came by and spoke to them in Spanish (a language I'm not fluent in) and grabbed my crouch. Next thing I knew, the dancer I was talking with would grab my crouch and begin playing with me. I was told that Alicia was telling them that I had a huge dick. They wanted to see for themselves. It must have worked because I got lots of free tableside hj action from three different dancers thanks to Alicia's big mouth. In one instance the dancer wasn't hiding anything and was giving the nearby patrons quite a show.

My second trip to the VIP was to take a sexy thing that I have some history with and with whom I knew that I'd get satisfaction. We were having a good time when a mutual dancer friend joined us so we became a threesome. It wasn't long before some great (!) girl-on-girl action took place with some of the best carpet munching I've seen right before my eyes taking place in my lap. It was magical and such a turn-on! They both worked on me once the female orgasms were subsiding. It was a terrific time with lots of good fun and great attitudes from everyone involved.

And yet...I still hadn't had a happy ending. As soon as I walked out of the VIP, I ran into one of my fs regulars who was also so horny that she jumped on me, spun me around, and pulled me back into the VIP. It was only a few seconds before she had my equipment out and was making all the preliminary moves to get things juiced up and ready for action. She put me in and she took off into her own universe until the fireworks went off. I was almost simultaneously cumming with her, lagging by only a few seconds. Both of us collapsed. One of her endearing trademarks is to clean me up with her mouth and tongue. I guess we were just horny enough at just the right time.

All in all, not a bad Friday.
Sexhobbyist

[Amorist1]

Ok, ok. I'll admit it. I'm one of those who occasionally stops by, usually can't follow the threads because it's been too long, but have found lots of interesting info. I haven't been to one of the clubs in ages. Mostly because being self employed I run way more than average hours. 80 a week isn't out of the norm. But in any case, I found myself on the east side leaving one jobsite and having a couple hours before a meeting later that afternoon. So, I figured I'the stop in CS. Wow. Has it changed since the last time. Well, but then. It may have been Bourbon Street then. ; ) What a wonderful group of ladies! Friendly, willing to stop and chat (wonder if they were thinking, "Hey. New meat! " And all were great dancers and entertainers! Just wanted to say "Thanks" to all who stopped by! Guess I'll have to start routing that way more often!

[Drunk Irish]

Just wanted to say had a great time at CS this afternoon. Enjoy it before you end up like us poor slobs in the NE, look and no touch.

All the girls were very friendly and three or four had memorized my name before I left. I was sitting at the stage on the left, and I was focused on the main stage, when I hear a girl call out my name right next to my ear. It was the dancer behind me! LOL She apologized for scaring the bejeezus out of me. (I really didn't mind, what a knockout!).

Several dances offered and taken, thanks for the advice on prepwork guys.

I had one question, is the black door next to the stage in the back left as you walk in, does that go to a VIP room? I saw the one immediately as you walk into CS, but didn't know what the other door was for and if you could just walk in or not.

[Paul Stearn]

[QUOTE= I don't like visiting the clubs on Friday because they are all packed with Johnny Paycheck spending his week's allowance, since it's payday. Sexhobbyist[/QUOTE]

You bring arrogance to a new low. I assume yours doesn't stink either.

[Sexhobbyist]

You bring arrogance to a new low. I assume yours doesn't stink either.

Yes, I am a SC snob. Shock!
Sexhobbyist

[Gunga Din]

I travel to AZ (Phoenix) quite a bit and have contemplated checking out Tucson. The concern I have is that there's a real dichotomy in the reports for the CS. On one hand SexHobbyist is having outrageous experiences (as well as promoting certain dancers and his self proclaimed large penis) and on the other hand guys are sitting around twiddling their thumbs while dancers blow them off. So I guess what's the real deal on the Tucson SC scene, can an unbiased source without self interest please shed some light on the scene?

Thanks

[Drunk Irish]

I had a phenomenal time at CS and more. The answer is in how you prepare for it and what kind of presentation you make of yourself. Read the FAQ on being a good strip club customer. Be clean, be neat, dress nicely, smell nice (don't overdo the cologne--if at all. I've found just a good shower with Dial soap gets lots of compliments combined with a fresh shave and Gillette shaving gel) AND be a bit stylish, be nice, get to know their names by asking, and be sure to let them know your name. Don't expect anything, it will come on its own volition. Realize this is a transaction, but just because you have money that they will do anything to get it.. They won't. They want to be in control, and if you let them, the rest will follow. Don't ask for extras, don't assume that they will be offered, just go with the flow.- the rest will follow, trust me.

As far as dancers being with other customers, yeah, it can be frustrating, but some will eventually come and ask for a dance. I would suggest taking the first few offers (unless she is really hideous), and let the other girls see you're game. They also won't necessarily ask if you want a lap dance, they'll just stand in front of you. Just smile, nod your head and ask, "have time for a dance? " Kill time waiting for lap dances and VIP by giving dollars at the stage.- and exchanging names there and networking with the girls.

Its very different than any club I've been to before. I had a great time. Its more of a local bar feel than Las Vegas strip club.

[MyThicBrew]

Hey Gunga,

I don't know that I'm exactly an unbiased source but here goes:

I've traveled quite a lot across the US and (internationally) and have been to a lot of strip clubs. If you have the opportunity to make it to Tucson then I definitely recommend it. The Tucson SC scene combines some of the best value for your money I've found. The girls aren't typically as jaded or spoiled from the big $$$$ places like Vegas, LA, Dallas, etc. I haven't found a friendlier group of dancers anywhere else in the US either.

But the person who seldom visits and doesn't really get to know the dancers is probably going to do more sitting around, waiting, and wondering where all the dancers are and why they aren't coming over after their stage set. Now I have seen some dancers occasionally give new guys very good attention, and have received some myself at times with some I didn't know, so it is certainly possible for the newcomer, just realize it is not as probable on any one visit. Increase your visits and the odds get better and most importantly you get to know the dancers which greatly increase your odds. Most dancers will not offer any extras (whatever her extras may or may not be) until she knows a good thing from some repeat business.

Dancers are looking first for their regulars, followed by frequent patrons of other dancers if those dancers are absent 8^), etc. And then will get around to those who they don't know if things slow down or something catches their eye like a bigger stage tip. Basically the most consistent success will generally be for those who frequent the clubs more, have a healthy SC budget to spend, and the time to cultivate their dancers. This is true everywhere but the Tucson SC scene has in general smaller clubs with fewer dancers working at times so it becomes more apparent.

The Tucson clubs can be hit or miss and especially in the summer months. Sometimes it seems that things are out of sync, dancers are not circulating and MIA, things are just dead. Many clubs do not maintain a set schedule. Then a day or two later things are awesome, with a good ratio of dancers to patrons. And at other times the place can be packed and so full of energy it becomes counter productive with a wait for standing room only VIP and no place to really get to know your favorita. Personally I've been a patron of the SCs for a while, know many of the dancers and staff, and there are times I'm sitting around for a bit leaving bored too. It seems that things are a bit more consistent in the day time from some of SH and others' posts. But most of the time Tucson SCs are the best in the nation IMO.

You may also want to check out Nogales an hour south of Tucson to the border some time as that may be more consistent for less time investment.

Bottom Line: I've had some very good times and often, even if the SCs in Tucson can be inconsistent, with any given day having a wide potential variation, from excellent to lacking in the number of dancers and talent. But IMO that is part of its charm here. Literally _Anything_ can happen.

Enjoy your explorations and happy mongering,

MythicBrew



I travel to AZ (Phoenix) quite a bit and have contemplated checking out Tucson. The concern I have is that there's a real dichotomy in the reports for the CS. On one hand SexHobbyist is having outrageous experiences (as well as promoting certain dancers and his self proclaimed large penis) and on the other hand guys are sitting around twiddling their thumbs while dancers blow them off. So I guess what's the real deal on the Tucson SC scene, can an unbiased source without self interest please shed some light on the scene?

Thanks

[Kirstyforme]

I had one question, is the black door next to the stage in the back left as you walk in, does that go to a VIP room? I saw the one immediately as you walk into CS, but didn't know what the other door was for and if you could just walk in or not.

Not sure if anyone ever answered your question but since I was in the CS today (crowded but well worth my time) I noticed the door you mentioned. That is relatively new and is the "smoking lounge." Since the smoke free initiative took effect there is no smoking in CS anymore. The smokers all head through that door to take care of their nicotine fix.

[Juicy Amie]

If you get to know the girls and go in often enough (once a week) the more the girls get to know you and go to you when you first walk in.
Cleanliness is a big factor on whether or not a dancer wants to spend more or less time with you. Believe me its not always about the money. If you go in feeling like a porcupine or stinking up the place, eventually all the ladies will know and avoide you.

[Merlin Magician]

I go into CS pretty regular. Today was no different from most other days. Girls were circulating and in 2-1/2 hrs, I got maybe two dance offers.

Do you think that maybe I should bump up my bath schedule to twice a month and maybe I'll get more offers? Should I put on some of that foo foo powder and splash a little English Leather? Clean socks?

[Dick North]

I go into CS pretty regular. Today was no different from most other days. Girls were circulating and in 2-1/2 hrs, I got maybe two dance offers.

Do you think that maybe I should bump up my bath schedule to twice a month and maybe I'll get more offers? Should I put on some of that foo foo powder and splash a little English Leather? Clean socks?
MM, Defintely bump up the bath schedule. Get rid of the English Leather and replace with something like 'Nautica'.
Also reinvent yourself as a Generation 'Y' guy. Mousse up your hair and go to Urban Outfitters to get some new duds and you will be fine.

Just kidding! Stay the same guy that you are!

The dancers will always respect you for who you are. You have been there many times so they must know you. What always works is to have some cash in your pocket, a fresh clean presence, a great attitude and a smile on your face.

IMHO

DN

[Sexhobbyist]

This week I've discovered fresh talent at a local establishment that we all know and love. Sexhobbyist recommends Christa the sista and Abby from Mexico. Enough said.

I've stayed out of the recent discussion about how to attract a stripper. I've already written extensively about it. The point is, it's not rocket science. A little good manners, some bright personality, and the color green is all that's needed in most cases. If you need more than that, then you might be beyond hope.
Sexhobbyist

[Merlin Magician]

TD's West has a federal problem. I was grumpy the other day about being charged to park in the handicapped space on the west side where TD's calls it their VIP parking. So, in my usual form, I did some legal research.

In looking at the Americans with Disabilities act, TD's cannot charge for those spaces unless they charge for everyone to park in their lot. They do not charge everyone to park on the property.

Case in point is the Tucson Library. They charge everyone to park in the underground parking unit and the use of handicapped spaces there is inconsequential. However, because TD's only charges in a certain section which subsequently contains the legally requisite number of handicapped parking spaces, they are charging for those spaces illegally by unfairly singling out those persons who qualify to use the spaces by federal, city, and state law.

Another problem is that TD's illegally allows persons to park in behind those cars in the handicapped spaces, blocking them in unlawfully. I believe that blocking a handicapped space, for whatever the reason, is a $500 fine in Tucson. Maybe TPD might like to know here to write some easy tickets. I'm sure there are an abundance of "traffic men" willing to write a citation.

I won't worry about bearding them out over it. I have stopped going there.

[Sexhobbyist]

Had to go to the VIP today with a nice new young thing. She's petite, a real spinner, with nice naturals who quoted a fs price. Details for senior members. Also, I went to the VIP with a dancer who has been around for a while, but we've never hooked up before. Today I found out from personal experience that she's a bit freaky and likes it where the sun don't shine. Again, details to senior members.
Sexhobbyist

[Amorist1]

Having made one stop a while back I found myself on that side of town again wirh a bit of time that was a bit mixed. I had several great floor dances when are caught my eye. Tipped her stage dance and asked if she'the stop by later. She said she only did VIP and I thought she could well be worth it. When she finished she came over and we headed in. I was a bit put off when she mentioned that she gets $20 per dance after I paid the admission but agreed anyway. Then she said there was a 5 dance minimum. So my question is is it always such hard sell? I mean I guess it was just then way she did it.

[Sexhobbyist]

If you were the guy getting dances from Hydra in the VIP on Sunday afternoon, then you were witness to Sexhobbyist getting it on with two lovlies in a two and a half hour threesome f*ckfest. I know that you and Hydra were watching us as we put on a show. I hope you two enjoyed the entertainment. No extra charge.
Sexhobbyist

[Amorist1]

Nope. I was there during the week. And I must admit I was looking around and wondering if any of the Senior members were around. That would have been something to see. Maybe next time. As for the other day I guess we just needto always be ready to walk when we're being played.

Hmm. I suppose another trip may be in order before I pass judgement.

[Sexhobbyist]

Having made one stop a while back I found myself on that side of town again wirh a bit of time that was a bit mixed. I had several great floor dances when are caught my eye. Tipped her stage dance and asked if she'the stop by later. She said she only did VIP and I thought she could well be worth it. When she finished she came over and we headed in. I was a bit put off when she mentioned that she gets $20 per dance after I paid the admission but agreed anyway. Then she said there was a 5 dance minimum. So my question is is it always such hard sell? I mean I guess it was just then way she did it.

Upcharging is not a common practice, in my experience. Yes, it does happen, but not frequently. When a dancer does try it on me, I tell them to give me their best $10 VIP dance and if it's good enough, I'll be happy to tip them generously and get more dances with a tip proportionate to my gratitude. If they give me a lame dance, then I'm not impressed enough to stick around and I graciously bail out. It's their loss since I usually tip generously for a great attitude and I usually get lots of dances if they perform generously.

Alternately, I tell them that $20 is the price of a Las Vegas dance and that if the dance isn't up to Vegas standards, she won't be doing a second dance. That puts the pressure on them to give it up—either give up the upcharge or give up the goods.

There is only one Tucson dancer that I agreed to an upcharge. She promised that the $20 per dance was going to be worth it and she said that she'll dance the first dance for free. If I didn't think it was worth $20, then I didn't owe her anything, but if I wanted more, it would be $20 for each dance. I agreed to the terms and it was an amazing dance that I just didn't see coming. The whole experience became a gfe for which I paid a total of $100. I've been back to her several times since then.

As always, ymmv.
Sexhobbyist

[Amorist1]

You're the man (perhaps in more way than one? ) around here. I suppose the main issue was she threw it at me so quickly and I'm just so way outta practice and wasn't prepared. Well. Ok. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that back in the day we never even considered touching a dancer, let alone being mauled (relatively speaking) by one. Not that I mind! All good points and well worth noting. If we meet up some day I surely owe you a beer (make that a really good beer! )

[Kirstyforme]

Also, I went to the VIP with a dancer who has been around for a while, but we've never hooked up before. Today I found out from personal experience that she's a bit freaky.

SexhobbyistDecided to pay a visit to a local establishment yesterday afternoon. Was immediately spirited off to VIP by one of my recent favorites. Things were really starting to heat up when I got a phone call that I had to take (I hate it when that happens. What a mood killer). A short time later found myself back on the floor. One of SH's recent recommendations hits the stage. I decide to throw my hat in the ring and convinced her to stop by after her stage set. Gave a decent enough floor dance to get my attention so we decided to try a VIP audition. Let's just say I was not disappointed at all! I didn't achieve SH's level of success but I left plenty happy. Thanks for the tip on this one, SH!

[Sexhobbyist]

You're the man (perhaps in more way than one? ) around here. I suppose the main issue was she threw it at me so quickly and I'm just so way outta practice and wasn't prepared. Well. Ok. Maybe it had something to do with the fact that back in the day we never even considered touching a dancer, let alone being mauled (relatively speaking) by one. Not that I mind! All good points and well worth noting. If we meet up some day I surely owe you a beer (make that a really good beer! )


One more point to make on this subject: You don't have to pay the upcharge. The VIP is advertised as $10 and management ought to support you on this. You can make them stick to the $10 if you want to ruffle feathers. And...for God's sake, never accept a minimum number of dances. That's unheard of in this town. Let the dancer know that you don't appreciate her sales tactic and that there are other dancers who might be more appreciative of your money. Feel free to say "no" and leave the VIP and seek other dancers. I once said "no" to a dancer and got up to leave. She relented and kept me company at the right price. Strangely, her attitude changed once she determined I was a seasoned customer and knew better than to accept her line and she became a good regular dancer for me. Moral of this story is: never let them know you're a rookie. After all, it's your money. Act like you know how to spend it.

Our own Juicy Amie might have more to say on this matter if she reads this.
Sexhobbyist

[Kirstyforme]

Got stood up for an appointment Thursday afternoon so what else to do with an extra hour or two than visit a local club and take in some sights.

Hadn't even ordered a drink yet when I noticed a dancer taking care of a customer near me. She appeared to be really friendly so when she finished I graciously accepted her request to dance for me. She was very, very friendly in the two dances I rec'd (nothing was left to the imagination) and I'm now wondering if I missed a golden opportunity by not taking her to VIP (but it was so early in my visit). Sorry, didn't get her name but I can describe her pretty well if any regular CS goers might know her.

A little later another nice blonde came by on her way out to have a break. She told me she'd be right back and she'd be all mine. While waiting for her our own Amy came by looking as hot as ever. She was not planning to be around much longer so I missed having her charm me (sorry Amy!). Fortunately the other dancer returned (sometimes you don't know if they will or not) and she mentioned that her friend was having a birthday the next day and would I be interested in the two of them up in VIP? How could a guy refuse two hot girls at once? These two really went to town once in VIP - the show was something to behold. Several guys in VIP stopped their own action just to watch. One guy from another couch even tipped the girls just for putting on something he could watch! Needless to say, I left a very satisfied customer yesterday! Details (to known members) available upon request.

[Kirstyforme]

Seems to be a bit slow in here lately...

Was thinking of going into CS today for some lunchtime relaxation. Only opportunity is around 11:30 or 12. Never been there that early before - anyone know what to expect at this time of day? On the one hand I might have no competition to get the dancer I want. On the other hand I don't want to be the only guy sitting there watching the lovely ladies.

Anyone been there around lunchtime and know what to expect?

[Sexhobbyist]

Seems to be a bit slow in here lately...

Was thinking of going into CS today for some lunchtime relaxation. Only opportunity is around 11:30 or 12. Never been there that early before - anyone know what to expect at this time of day? On the one hand I might have no competition to get the dancer I want. On the other hand I don't want to be the only guy sitting there watching the lovely ladies.

Anyone been there around lunchtime and know what to expect?

The dancers that are there at that hour are the ones who started when the club opened and don't have to pay a fee to the club. There are generally about 6 or so dancers and few customers. It's actually a good time to get some one-on-one time with a dancer. The VIP is virtually empty so....

The big influx of dancers occurs about 1 p.m. although a few dribble in at noon.

I've found that the early hours at the club provide some excellent opportunities. Enough said.
Sexhobbyist

[Kirstyforme]

The dancers that are there at that hour are the ones who started when the club opened and don't have to pay a fee to the club. There are generally about 6 or so dancers and few customers. It's actually a good time to get some one-on-one time with a dancer. The VIP is virtually empty so....

The big influx of dancers occurs about 1 p.m. although a few dribble in at noon.

I've found that the early hours at the club provide some excellent opportunities. Enough said.
Sexhobbyist
Thanks - looks like I may just have to go in and find out who's around today...can't stay more than an hour or so but still worth investigating...

Thanks for your insight. Always right on the money for me.

[Rocker25]

Hey Guys & Gals

Has anybody seen Riches at the CS lately?

Thanks for any info?

[Juicy Amie]

One more point to make on this subject: You don't have to pay the upcharge. The VIP is advertised as $10 and management ought to support you on this. You can make them stick to the $10 if you want to ruffle feathers. And...for God's sake, never accept a minimum number of dances. That's unheard of in this town. Let the dancer know that you don't appreciate her sales tactic and that there are other dancers who might be more appreciative of your money. Feel free to say "no" and leave the VIP and seek other dancers. I once said "no" to a dancer and got up to leave. She relented and kept me company at the right price. Strangely, her attitude changed once she determined I was a seasoned customer and knew better than to accept her line and she became a good regular dancer for me. Moral of this story is: never let them know you're a rookie. After all, it's your money. Act like you know how to spend it.

Our own Juicy Amie might have more to say on this matter if she reads this.
Sexhobbyist



Not to piss anyone off, but there have been some things going on in the club that many of us are upset about. If some of the ladies think you are a newbie then yes they will try to charge you more because of the disrespect we have been getting. We work hard and have to deal with unruly people on a daily basis, so it seems people who don't desrve it are getting the rut end of it, I'm sorry for that. We are still people just like anyone else and should get treated with respect.
If you like the dancer that takes you into VIP and she trys to upsell you then let her know that you come in there often enough to know that it is not the way things go, but that you would like to get a dance from her for the $10, and if you feel that her dance was worth extra you will give it to her. We are in control as to what goes on, but you are still in control of your money. If the dancer does not agree with that then maybe you should find another dancer. (Do use your own words I am only giving advice)
I'm sorry SH, but if someone were to approch managment with a topic like this the dancer would not only get approched by managment or fired, but also the other ladies would find out about what happend and I don't think that customer would have a good time the rest of the time or any other time they were to go in there. Personally I would approch the ladie about it and then decide for myself if the dance was worth it.
Tipping is always a plus, we work off of tips all the time. If you tend to give $10 or more for a tip the ladies will remember you and will let the other girls know to treat you good while you are in the club. Also remember to treat the ladies with respect that is a big plus along with being clean.

[Juicy Amie]

Got stood up for an appointment Thursday afternoon so what else to do with an extra hour or two than visit a local club and take in some sights.

Hadn't even ordered a drink yet when I noticed a dancer taking care of a customer near me. She appeared to be really friendly so when she finished I graciously accepted her request to dance for me. She was very, very friendly in the two dances I rec'd (nothing was left to the imagination) and I'm now wondering if I missed a golden opportunity by not taking her to VIP (but it was so early in my visit). Sorry, didn't get her name but I can describe her pretty well if any regular CS goers might know her.

A little later another nice blonde came by on her way out to have a break. She told me she'd be right back and she'd be all mine. While waiting for her our own Amy came by looking as hot as ever. She was not planning to be around much longer so I missed having her charm me (sorry Amy!). Fortunately the other dancer returned (sometimes you don't know if they will or not) and she mentioned that her friend was having a birthday the next day and would I be interested in the two of them up in VIP? How could a guy refuse two hot girls at once? These two really went to town once in VIP - the show was something to behold. Several guys in VIP stopped their own action just to watch. One guy from another couch even tipped the girls just for putting on something he could watch! Needless to say, I left a very satisfied customer yesterday! Details (to known members) available upon request.


I was there in VIP when this happend and can definently say they are both very good on their own, but when you can get the duo together don't pass up the opertunity.

[Juicy Amie]

The dancers that are there at that hour are the ones who started when the club opened and don't have to pay a fee to the club. There are generally about 6 or so dancers and few customers. It's actually a good time to get some one-on-one time with a dancer. The VIP is virtually empty so....

The big influx of dancers occurs about 1 p.m. although a few dribble in at noon.

I've found that the early hours at the club provide some excellent opportunities. Enough said.
Sexhobbyist


our morning time is our leisure time, so we tend to have more fun and less stress I recomend going in between 11am and 1pm. You will find the women to be a lot happier. Plus you have more time to get to know them. (just a little freindly advice)

[Paul Stearn]

This makes one stop and wonder about the cameras in the VIP areas of the clubs:

http://www.channel3000.com/news/13699761/detail.html

[Kirstyforme]

our morning time is our leisure time, so we tend to have more fun and less stress I recomend going in between 11am and 1pm. You will find the women to be a lot happier. Plus you have more time to get to know them. (just a little freindly advice)
Guys this is EXCELLENT advice. I did make it in yesterday about noon. Things were already in full swing when I got there and picked up consistently throughout the time I was there (I left about 1:30). To my suprise and delight there were quite a few ladies to choose from. I also noted VIP was virtually empty which made things a bit nicer to chat with each other.

I ended up getting a set of VIP with a very cute latina who prepped me nicely for a final set with one of my blondes from last Thursday. She saw me going into VIP with the first girl and told me to save some time for her. She then came into VIP with her own customer and when they finished she stuck around for me (very nice touch in my opinion). I don't kid myself into thinking I'm on the top of anyone's list but she still seemed really jazzed about our doubles encounter from last week and wanted to pick up right where we left off - even if it was just the two of us this time. She made it so hard to leave to go back to work, but....

[Kirstyforme]

I don't usually get a chance to head to the clubs 'after dark' but had some free time last night. I wandered in about 10:30 and the place was pretty full. A good assortment of dancers in but I found it difficult to get any to come by my table (most seemed to already be planted in their regulars lap or something). I saw Brandy on stage (very tall brunette with legs to die for) and invited her over when she was done. After her stage set she started working the floor (from the other side of the club) and didn't make it over to me for at least a half-hour! She finally got to me and the fun began. Her three floor dances were good enough to encourage me to take her to VIP. Well, unfortunately her VIP was no different than the floor dances so my recommendation here is get the floor but don't opt for VIP with this one.

A few more offers and floor dances later I spotted Tiffany on stage. She is a delicious blonde. I really wanted her attention but she told me she was with somebody in VIP already. I told her to come by when she was done but no luck there. I may have to go back sometime as I witnessed her in VIP later and she definitely looks to be worth my time and investigation.

Fortunately, right after seeing Tiffany I met Ginger. Ginger is a bubbly little brunette with short-cropped hair. I tipped her on her second stage and invited her to join me when she was done. When she came over we sat for a few minutes exchanging the usual witty banter. When the next song started she asked if I wanted to have her dance there or go right to VIP. Normally I like to get a floor dance first but something about her told me to just go to VIP. My instinct was right this time and I spent the next hour and a half enjoying her company in VIP. She had some special 'talents' and energy that was simply amazing. If you go in at night then I highly recommend Ginger!

[Amorist1]

That's probably the best idea yet, that is, stopping by before 1pm. When I was there the VIP was busy when I went in and there was a line waiting when I came out. But hey, the girls must have been doing well!!

[Motherfer]

That's probably the best idea yet, that is, stopping by before 1pm.Wow, I haven't been in that place in a while. You guys are making me want to get back in the game! This weekend for certain. Any girls I should shoot for first? Your advice is greatly appreciated.

[Sexhobbyist]

Spent a pleasant afternoon at CS today and found Carla who is the latest Sexhobbyist recommendation. She was at TD West for 12 years (what a waste!) and left there because of a lack of money walking in the door. She landed at CS. I tried her in the VIP and had a nice experience. Enough said.

It was a surprise to see Desiree, formerly of Curves, working at CS. She's been out of dancing for about three years, but is back to earn some quick money for an upcoming project. She goes by a different name now because her former stage name is being used by someone else.

Amie, who is such a sweetheart, was sitting in my lap at a table discussing the big issues of the day (yeah, right) when she got all sultry and began this very sensual dance for me. I was appreciative because she can be soooooo sexy. She got my motor running and I needed someone to take care of me. She went and got this tall, thin dancer and brought her to me. Much to my surprise, it was Desiree, with whom I have a history. We headed up to the VIP for some "old times sake" memorable dances.

Thanks Amie!
Sexhobbyist

[Merlin Magician]

I tried one of the local clubs here and saw all the new changes. Dances may be cheaper now at 5 bucks at a whack but the girls are all upselling to the VIP area like crazy. I tried a couple at the table (yes they were circulating like I have never seen them Circulate before in that place.) but they were really not getting in close (with anyone) and not showing me anything that I may wish to upgrade to the vip area.

So I tried a few dances and decided that the upsell shit may not bring forth fruit so I gave up. YMMV; I'm sure but if it drives well on the street, you may want to get out on the highway with it. If it don't drive well, no highway.

[SuperD]

Was going to go to Nogi for the afternoon but decided to hit CS. I was not disappointed. Two beers for the price of one, $5 table dances and $10 in the VIP. I had a rewarding dance in the VIP with Kynita (sp). Highly Recommended. I would do it again.

This is the best place I've been to for a long time. I'll be back.

[Amorist1]

SH, I'd have to agree with your analysis of Carla. Stopped by and have seen her a couple times now. The only problem that I could detect is that she may well fall into that category of "one dance is too many, and a thousand may never be enough!"

Naturally.. YMMV

(now if I can just some more extra work to make up for what I spent .. :)

[Azn Monger101]

Hi all,

I've been reading the board as I'll be visiting on Sunday, flying into Phx for brief visit.

I've RTFF. CS seems worth the drive. How is Sunday afternoon say around 4pm for newbies?

CS seems great for $5 table dances and $10 VIP. What is cover? Are the prices correct for Sunday?

Any advice (yes SH, I read your book, great job) for Phx or Tuscon area? Thanks for any feedback.

AM

[Sexhobbyist]

Sunday afternoon about 4 p.m. is not the best time. First of all, Sundays are kinda laid back at the club. Second, 4 p.m. is right at the time the shifts are changing; daytime girls are leaving and evening girls are arriving. There is a period when few dancers are working when the shift change happens. They're all in the dressing room either getting dressed to leave or getting dressed to work. If you can wait through the changeover, you'll likely have some talent to pick from. I'm not very familiar with the dancers who work on Sunday evening so I can't make any specific recommendations. When I've been there at that time, there seems to be an inconsistent mix of dancers from week to week. If you can make it earlier in the day, I can make specific recommendations although the weekday dancers rarely show up on Sunday. Sunday is also a day when the club auditions potential new dancers so the action is rather restrained unless you find one who knows the ropes having worked there previously.

There is no cover charge during the day. I believe there is a $5 cover beginning at 6 p.m. The $5/$10 prices are the same on Sunday during the day.

As for the Phoenix area...I can't make any recommendations at this time. There seems to be a lack of comparable action in the Phx clubs. Perhaps check out the Phoenix boards for more details. Phoenix seems to have AMPs which aren't in Tucson. I'm not a big fan of them, so I can't comment on what's good in Phx. There is lots more street action in Phx than Tucson. Read the boards for more info.

Sexhobbyist


Hi all,

I've been reading the board as I'll be visiting on Sunday, flying into Phx for brief visit.

I've RTFF. CS seems worth the drive. How is Sunday afternoon say around 4pm for newbies?

CS seems great for $5 table dances and $10 VIP. What is cover? Are the prices correct for Sunday?

Any advice (yes SH, I read your book, great job) for Phx or Tuscon area? Thanks for any feedback.

AM

[Azn Monger101]

Sunday afternoon about 4 p.m. is not the best time.

SexhobbyistThanks for the feedback. I RTFF the Phx area, but I'll look some more. I'll have to see if I can change my flight or just scout the Phx area for street action. The clubs there seem lame! Thanks again.

[Merlin Magician]

Yes, the clubs are lame in PHX compared to TUS. However, the AMP's are virtually on every corner in PHX area where there is only one in TUS. Get a New Times in PHX free at any convenience store and read the ads in the back or RTFF for PHX.

Stay away from the area south of the airport in PHX. There are no legitimate or honest sex oriented establishments in that area.

Street action is very risky as there are these horribly stringent AZ laws that can incapacitate a monger. Overkill IMHO.

The parlors are the way to fly safely in PHX.

The strip clubs are the way in TUS. Candy Store in afternoons, Turbulence at nights.

[Sexhobbyist]

Yes, the clubs are lame in PHX compared to TUS. However, the AMP's are virtually on every corner in PHX area where there is only one in TUS. Get a New Times in PHX free at any convenience store and read the ads in the back or RTFF for PHX.

Stay away from the area south of the airport in PHX. There are no legitimate or honest sex oriented establishments in that area.

Street action is very risky as there are these horribly stringent AZ laws that can incapacitate a monger. Overkill IMHO.

The parlors are the way to fly safely in PHX.

The strip clubs are the way in TUS. Candy Store in afternoons, Turbulence at nights.


Excellent and succinct analysis.
Sexhobbyist

[Kirstyforme]

Forgive me but I needed to vent a little...

Was in CS on Monday afternoon and witnessed what I think is a complete shame. Was sitting watching the stage when a young hottie came by and stopped to talk to another customer nearby. She dropped what looked like a bill but didn't notice. Then she went into the dressing room. Another guy must have seen this as well as he jumps up and makes his way over towards the stage (like he's going to tip the dancer on stage) and casually picks up the bill. He takes a look at it and quickly puts it in his pocket. A few minutes later the dancer comes out and is clearly looking on the ground where's she's been (obviously looking for her bill). After she scours the area a little the guy that picked up her bill calls her over (I thought he was going to do the right thing and give it back to her). They start to chat and she tells him she's looking for a $20 that she just dropped. This guy doesn't say a word and just says he's sorry that she lost it! If I had it to do over I might have said something but I didn't want to get in the middle of things.

What would others do? Chalk it up to her fault for losing her money? I know if I had picked it up I would have given it back to her in a heartbeat. I thought about saying something while I tipped her on stage but I got distracted, lol.

Another thing that got to me that afternoon was the drinks. I don't know if CS has changed their policy, started enforcing a policy they've had, or the waitresses are trying to scam guys but Monday I tried to get a glass of water (which I've done often in the past). They bring me a bottle of water for $3.50 - ok, I'll take it this time. Later, another waitress comes around and asks if I want anything else? I say no and she says "it's a two drink minimum." This is after I've been there for over an hour - spent money in dances and VIP, etc. Now they are trying to force me to buy more drinks? What gives???? I know they make their money on drinks and such and I don't mind buying but I don't want to be forced to buy. Most of the waitresses also know that I tip them pretty good even if they just bring me a glass of water.

Anyway, end of today's rant... Maybe Amie can shed some light on things for me if she sees this.

[Amorist1]

I haven't run into that of yet. Usually I order a water back with the beer (that I've never been charge for) and I've never heard of a 2 drink minimum. Hmm.. maybe they just think I'm cute? ;)

On other fronts I did have a chance to stop by CS earlier. One of those days where I didn't have a whole lot of time to spend so I figured VIP wouldn't work. I did run across a sweetheart just after getting the beer who was just an angel. I've seen VIP dances that weren't as good as her floor dance. Well, let's just say that I helped out the economy as best I could with the time to spare. Next time we'll have to move to the VIP. That could have been *really* good!

[Azn Monger101]

Stay away from the area south of the airport in PHX.

Street action is very risky as there are these horribly stringent AZ laws that can incapacitate a monger. Overkill IMHO.

The strip clubs are the way in TUS. Candy Store in afternoons, Turbulence at nights.Great summary with key points. Thanks.

AM

[jwny72]

I am very sad to report on a most unpleasant experience at the CS on Wed. night. I've been going there for a number of years and have never had anything like this sort of thing happen.

Uncharacteristically, I was there in the evening (I'm usually there in the daytime or afternoon). I showed up around 10 and ended up staying until last call. The dancers are more mercenary in the evenings, but basically everything was fine and enjoyable until the very end of the night at which point I spotted a dancer I'd been wanting to get dances from all night coming out of the VIP room. I asked if she was busy, she wasn't, and we ended up in the VIP together where I learned she literally just started working there. She said it was her second day at the CS and that she had been at TD's West previously. The dancer I'm talking about is a slim brunette (dang and blast I can't remember her stage name...).

The few dances I had with her were alright, but not spectacular by any means and I didn't want to continue after what I swear were only 2 songs. She said she thought it had been four songs, but ceded that it may have only been 3. Not wanting to create a scene I paid her for 3 songs and tried to leave.

She then told me that the final few dances of the evening are always $20, not $10. I'd never heard of such a thing and really felt like I was being hustled. Particularly since I'd already, out of a desire not to rock the boat, paid for a dance I'm darn sure I didn't get. I didn't want to give her any more dough but she was quite insistant. It ended up being a three way conversation including the bouncer. He verified her claim, and I paid the additional money.

Another wrinkle in all of this is that during the conversation with the bouncer she indicated that I'd been an innaproppriatly touchy customer. Now this is bullshit. Like I said earlier, I've been going to the CS for a number of years on a semi-regular basis (usually once a month but sometimes as much as 2 or 3 times a month) and I have it down to a science how to behave with unfamiliar dancers. I never push the envelope in terms of touching and take my cues from the dancer with regard to how much is acceptable. I even have a little speech I often use, and I definitely gave this particular dancer my speech. I say something to the effect of: "Please let me know what your ground rules are. I've had a lot of different experiences with a lot of different dancers and I don't wish to violate boundaries. What are yours"? She responded by saying: "Let's play it by ear and I'll let you know if you cross any". I thought this was pretty vague and decided to be conservative. The most I did was put my hands on her hips and squeeze her buttocks during the dances, in response to which she said nothing. Only during the conversation that included the bouncer did she mention that anything I'd done was innappropriate. Seems a bit self-serving to me. It was her word against mine though, and her word seemed to carry more weight.

In short, it was a shakedown in my opinion, pure and simple. And the bouncer seemed to be in on it. I'm dissappointed in that guy as I've always tipped the bouncers when I pay my VIP entrance fee and I've put a decent amount in his pocket over the years.

I'm definately never going to the CS again in the evening, which is when a more mercenary kind of place emerges from the laid back CS I love. And I'm ambivilant about ever going back at all.

Has anyone else experienced or witnessed anything like this? Is this part of some new trend? I'd love input from others.

[Kirstyforme]

The few dances I had with her were alright, but not spectacular by any means and I didn't want to continue after what I swear were only 2 songs. She said she thought it had been four songs, but ceded that it may have only been 3. Not wanting to create a scene I paid her for 3 songs and tried to leave.

She then told me that the final few dances of the evening are always $20, not $10. I'd never heard of such a thing and really felt like I was being hustled. Particularly since I'd already, out of a desire not to rock the boat, paid for a dance I'm darn sure I didn't get. I didn't want to give her any more dough but she was quite insistant. It ended up being a three way conversation including the bouncer. He verified her claim, and I paid the additional money.
....
Has anyone else experienced or witnessed anything like this? Is this part of some new trend? I'd love input from others.
A few comments for you, jwny72. First, I have definitely been suprised by 'dance count discrepencies' with some dancers (not just at CS). Some of the girls are probably just looking to score some extra $$ while others may just lose track depending on how heated the dances get. Usually I will comment that I was sorry but thought the number was such and such but pay them for the extra songs (much like you did). However, I will definitely note the behaviour for future visits. If needed, it can be a good thing to periodically confirm with the girl the number of dances. Say something like, "wow, I've really enjoyed all FOUR of your dances so far. Let's do a few more." This can then let her know that at least you are keeping track of them with her. To be sure, I've never had a dancer get that far off after only 2 or 3 songs, though.

There is definitely a policy that the songs at the very end of the night are double the price (floor or VIP). They say this is because they are longer in length and meant for you to get more enjoyment out of them. Whenever I've been there that late I've found that the dancer will (should) tell you ahead of time this vital info. I've also heard them announce it from the DJ but could be missed if you're not really paying attention. Everyone has to make their own judgement as to the worth of paying the extra $$ but I've seldom seen any difference in the dances myself. In your case maybe you could've paid the higher rate but then stood firm on the number of dances (so in effect paying $20 each but for only the two you rec'd). Just depends on how much heat you would want to take and how much the extra $$ really means to you. Again, I would probably pay for it and then make a note of who to avoid in the future.

As for the bouncer...I could be way off base here but remember the bouncer works for the club and I'm assuming would side on whatever gets the club more money in the end. I'm not too sure how much the club is willing to bend over backwards to insure you come back again so they probably don't care a whole lot if you leave a bit irked.

[Paul Stearn]

A few comments for you, jwny72. First, I have definitely been suprised by 'dance count discrepencies' with some dancers (not just at CS). Some of the girls are probably just looking to score some extra $$ while others may just lose track depending on how heated the dances get. Usually I will comment that I was sorry but thought the number was such and such but pay them for the extra songs (much like you did). However, I will definitely note the behaviour for future visits. If needed, it can be a good thing to periodically confirm with the girl the number of dances. Say something like, "wow, I've really enjoyed all FOUR of your dances so far. Let's do a few more." This can then let her know that at least you are keeping track of them with her. To be sure, I've never had a dancer get that far off after only 2 or 3 songs, though.

There is definitely a policy that the songs at the very end of the night are double the price (floor or VIP). They say this is because they are longer in length and meant for you to get more enjoyment out of them. Whenever I've been there that late I've found that the dancer will (should) tell you ahead of time this vital info. I've also heard them announce it from the DJ but could be missed if you're not really paying attention. Everyone has to make their own judgement as to the worth of paying the extra $$ but I've seldom seen any difference in the dances myself. In your case maybe you could've paid the higher rate but then stood firm on the number of dances (so in effect paying $20 each but for only the two you rec'd). Just depends on how much heat you would want to take and how much the extra $$ really means to you. Again, I would probably pay for it and then make a note of who to avoid in the future.

As for the bouncer...I could be way off base here but remember the bouncer works for the club and I'm assuming would side on whatever gets the club more money in the end. I'm not too sure how much the club is willing to bend over backwards to insure you come back again so they probably don't care a whole lot if you leave a bit irked.


I wonder how long it will take the shill for CS to respond to this report!!

[Juicy Amie]

Forgive me but I needed to vent a little...

Was in CS on Monday afternoon and witnessed what I think is a complete shame. Was sitting watching the stage when a young hottie came by and stopped to talk to another customer nearby. She dropped what looked like a bill but didn't notice. Then she went into the dressing room. Another guy must have seen this as well as he jumps up and makes his way over towards the stage (like he's going to tip the dancer on stage) and casually picks up the bill. He takes a look at it and quickly puts it in his pocket. A few minutes later the dancer comes out and is clearly looking on the ground where's she's been (obviously looking for her bill). After she scours the area a little the guy that picked up her bill calls her over (I thought he was going to do the right thing and give it back to her). They start to chat and she tells him she's looking for a $20 that she just dropped. This guy doesn't say a word and just says he's sorry that she lost it! If I had it to do over I might have said something but I didn't want to get in the middle of things.

What would others do? Chalk it up to her fault for losing her money? I know if I had picked it up I would have given it back to her in a heartbeat. I thought about saying something while I tipped her on stage but I got distracted, lol.

Another thing that got to me that afternoon was the drinks. I don't know if CS has changed their policy, started enforcing a policy they've had, or the waitresses are trying to scam guys but Monday I tried to get a glass of water (which I've done often in the past). They bring me a bottle of water for $3.50 - ok, I'll take it this time. Later, another waitress comes around and asks if I want anything else? I say no and she says "it's a two drink minimum." This is after I've been there for over an hour - spent money in dances and VIP, etc. Now they are trying to force me to buy more drinks? What gives???? I know they make their money on drinks and such and I don't mind buying but I don't want to be forced to buy. Most of the waitresses also know that I tip them pretty good even if they just bring me a glass of water.

Anyway, end of today's rant... Maybe Amie can shed some light on things for me if she sees this.




There is a two drink min. But most of the time if you are a regular then they do not enforce it because they know that you are spending money. Latly I have seen them enforcing this because of the fact that this is the slow time of the year so they are upcharging some and not others and then pulling the two drink min. thing. You could always say that you just orderd from someone, or just order another.

[Paul Stearn]

There is a two drink min. But most of the time if you are a regular then they do not enforce it because they know that you are spending money. Latly I have seen them enforcing this because of the fact that this is the slow time of the year so they are upcharging some and not others and then pulling the two drink min. thing. You could always say that you just orderd from someone, or just order another.

Wait a minute, it's slow so they upcharge some and enforce others - hell of a way to run a business. Good thing there are other better clubs in town.

[TucGuy]

I wonder how long it will take the shill for CS to respond to this report!!

Paul, your comment was uncalled for. We all tout where we do well. If you dont get what you want and others do that is a "you" problem not an "our" problem.

[Dick North]

Paul, your comment was uncalled for. We all tout where we do well. If you dont get what you want and others do that is a "you" problem not an "our" problem.
Just want to put in my 2 cents worth. TucGuy, I respect you as a valuable member of the USG, as I also respect Paul Stearn.
Paul's beef is, apparently, with a particular member of the Tucson strip club thread.
I respect Paul Stearn and I would suggest that he be allowed to have his exchanges with that particular member without second-guessing from other members. Paul has made significant and valuable contributions to the USG and my advice would be to not be too critical of his comments.
You apparently assumed that his comments were directed at a particular individual, but maybe you are wrong.
You expressed your opinion and certainly have every right to do so. I just think that this issue is between two specific members and others should stay out of the fray.
IMHO
DN

[Booty Pirate]

Hey DN! Haven't seen ya post on here in a bit and figure I'd give ya a virtual wave hello. Was out your way about a month ago and can't wait to return.

BP

[TucGuy]

Just want to put in my 2 cents worth. TucGuy, I respect you as a valuable member of the USG, as I also respect Paul Stearn.
Paul's beef is, apparently, with a particular member of the Tucson strip club thread.
I respect Paul Stearn and I would suggest that he be allowed to have his exchanges with that particular member without second-guessing from other members. Paul has made significant and valuable contributions to the USG and my advice would be to not be too critical of his comments.
You apparently assumed that his comments were directed at a particular individual, but maybe you are wrong.
You expressed your opinion and certainly have every right to do so. I just think that this issue is between two specific members and others should stay out of the fray.
IMHO
DN

I agree that Paul is a respected poster but I have never seen anything like this happen on our board here in Tucson and dont want to see it. If he has a beef with a single poster then take it to PM or post his opinion and complaint for all to read and know what he is talking about. I watched a huge war of words in another city and it was so bad it ruined the board for us until the powers stepped in and stopped it. Also how could his comment about a CS shill not be about a poster? JMHO

[Dick North]

I agree that Paul is a respected poster but I have never seen anything like this happen on our board here in Tucson and dont want to see it. If he has a beef with a single poster then take it to PM or post his opinion and complaint for all to read and know what he is talking about. I watched a huge war of words in another city and it was so bad it ruined the board for us until the powers stepped in and stopped it. Also how could his comment about a CS shill not be about a poster? JMHO
TucGuy, no question it's another poster. He already said that. If a disagreement reaches a stage where it becomes a distraction and a nuisance for the rest of us, then yes ... the involved individuals should 'take it to the mat' via pm.

Booty Pirate! ... Hey don't be such a stanger when you are out here! One of these days we'll have to get together and ogle some fine AZ scenery.

DN

[Juicy Amie]

Wait a minute, it's slow so they upcharge some and enforce others - hell of a way to run a business. Good thing there are other better clubs in town.


Its not my buissness to run. There may be other or better clubs to go to, that is your peragative. Everyone has a preference. CS is not the only one doing it. I am not fighting with you or anyone else on any subject in here or anywhere else on any of this. I was asked to responed to something and give my opinion, and just like I have said before this is only my opinion it is for you to take it with a grain of salt.

[Kirstyforme]

Made my weekly Tues night visit into CS last night. Saw some fresh new talent and rekindled some previous memories. Sporadic night but I left in a very good mood. As others have reported the night dancers seem to not circulate as much as the day shifts. They are either sitting in a group or spending all their time with regulars. I sought out several candidates and had to bring them back to my table if I wanted their attention.

First up was Cayden. When I saw her on stage I knew I wanted some of her time. She's a taller blonde with a very nice enhanced rack. Very sexy and a killer smile. Started with a few floor dances before she charmed me into VIP. She really shined in VIP (best of the night). Especially if you like a little dirty talk in your ear (sexy and sultry not just a bunch of profanities). I was ready to marry this girl after just a few songs! Definitely recommended.

Next up was Rosie (Rose). Rose looks to be Asian (Polynesian maybe). Short bleached blonde. It took me a while to get her to come by but when she did it was well worth it. Her floor dances make some dancers VIP dances pale in comparison. Rose is a must see if you make it in at night.

Bella was my next companion. Very sultry brunette. Young little hottie with a eagle (or something like that) tattoo on her back. Mentioned she had just come over from TD's East within the last couple of weeks. May also dance under the name Taylor. Good moves and nice contact. VIP was a little restrained (I'm guessing until she gets more comfortable with the club) but not bad. When the bouncer came through VIP at one point and left she asked me "so he doesn't care that you are squeezing my ass?" I just laughed and told her as long as she didn't mind he didn't care. This one may be worth watching.

Lastly for the night was Chastity. I've seen her on a previous night time visit. Nice brunette with an enhanced chest. Knows how to move well. Good contact in VIP though nothing over the top. Also good conversationalist. Not my top pick of the night but definitely worth a visit or two.

That's it for this report. Established members may PM me for more info...
Kirstyforme

[TucGuy]

Stopped in CS a little prior to noon today. Must say I was underwhelmed. Saw maybe two girls that I would have wanted a dance from much less anything more. I guess I am not just out to get extras. I want truly hot looking women to fondle, tease and act like I am it. Did see an old friend from years back at TD's and got a table dance and a couple VIP dances. Nothing more than some aggressive fondling and teasing. Will try on another day and see how the girls stack up on looks but today was not a good day looks wise.

[Kamperx]

I've been to both CS and TD's west a couple times recently. All during the day. Had a good time at CS, but TD was a bust. One lady who danced for me at TD asked where else I went. When I told her, she kinda turned up her nose. But you gotta go where the service is.

Altho, at TD's I was in the VIP the dancer realized I wasn't really into her style and offered to get another girl. Second one came in and I was much happier. Can't remember any names, but that experience will probably bring me back there.

Kamperx

[Sexhobbyist]

It's becoming my regular expectation to get sex at local strip clubs. It has become a sport to see if my expectations of fs will be met. Take today, for example. I was in a local club minding my own business when I was asked if I'd like a table dance by a cute Latina. After a couple of dances she had me nice and excited. She was getting into it, as well. She was astride me and rubbing herself with my dick in such a way that it made her moan. After a third dance, she asked me to the VIP room. I gladly accepted the invitation. Once there, she escalated her technique until it became an all-out gfe including DFK and bj. She got herself all hot and bothered playing with my equipment. I could tell she was going to take it by the way she was playing with it and moaning. I pulled out protection and she took it and put it on. Then it was a two-song ride with both of us climaxing at the same time.

This was only the second time this dancer had ever danced for me (previously about six months ago)--the first time in the VIP. No sex was expected, yet...there it was. She was enjoying herself too much and just let it happen. It happens occasionally in my world.

Strip club sex has become a sport for me. Friday at a local club I had a fs threesome in the VIP. Having had long-term relationships with the two dancers, sex was expected and I wasn't disappointed. After today, though, I expect fs at every local club I visit. That isn't an unreasonable expectation since I've been able to score in four clubs repeatedly this year so far. It's fun to see how far the dancer will let things happen without even knowing me or how deep my wallet is by just using me to get herself into the mood. The gold medal is given to those who meet my expectations and become the "good sport."

Sexhobbyist

[Snowmadics]

So what do you wear when you go? Do you dress up? Down? Casual? What do the girls look for?

[Juicy Amie]

So what do you wear when you go? Do you dress up? Down? Casual? What do the girls look for?


I would say casual wear, be comfertable. Your not taking the ladies out for dinner, but if you've been working all day and are able to go home, shower and put on something other then work clothes you might get a few more dances. Some ladies do not like the grease and grime all over them.

[Sexhobbyist]

So what do you wear when you go? Do you dress up? Down? Casual? What do the girls look for?

I kinda covered this in my Sexhobbyist Guide to Strip Clubs published in January. Go back and read the posts.

In the summer, I like to wear loose-fitting shorts and an oversized-polo shirt with a long shirt tail. Read the posts to find out why.
Sexhobbyist

[Desert Dog]

Hey Fellow Mongerers,

Been a while since I have had the opportunity to partake or post so I thought I would share last Fridays insights.

Started my first day back in town at the CS around 1130 am and was having such a great time that I ended up staying until almost 6 pm. Really had a great time visiting with some of the gals I have known for a while and hooking up with a few of the new ones. I will definitely give two thumbs up to Amie, Hydra, Desire, Taisha and Mercedes. Seniors feel free to pm for details.

Also made a stop in at Tens on saturday. Not as spectacular as cs, but good none the less.

Get back with you all again some time,

D Dog

[Merlin Magician]

Hit the CS at 1900 hrs today. Not many girls, but they were circulating well. I had the fabulous Chastity in my lap for a few dances. I'll save up and go back for seconds later.

[SneakyMexican]

I kinda covered this in my Sexhobbyist Guide to Strip Clubs published in January. Go back and read the posts.

In the summer, I like to wear loose-fitting shorts and an oversized-polo shirt with a long shirt tail. Read the posts to find out why.
SexhobbyistLink?

:-)

[Kirstyforme]

Hit the CS at 1900 hrs today. Not many girls, but they were circulating well. I had the fabulous Chastity in my lap for a few dances. I'll save up and go back for seconds later.

You're a lucky guy, Merlin. Chastity has graced my lap on occasion and I always left smiling. Alas, saw her only briefly on Friday before I had to leave. Definitely gets a recommendation from me...

Did you make it back for seconds?

[Netveg1]

Link?

:-)Click on SH's handle and click to view more posts from him and you'll find it.

[Sexhobbyist]

Link?

:-)

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/member.php?u=26940

Sorry, I'm technologically inept.
Sexhobbyist

[Weben]

I am not sure where to start. I find myself in Tucson for a few days working with clients. I usually avoid the strip clubs in any city I have every visited as my experience has never been like what I had this week.

Anyways, I figure what the hell. I had dinner early and wanted to kill some time to stopped by. First impressions were really not that great, looks smaller than I thought and with the VIP room up front, why would anyone do anything.

So, sitting there for a while have a bottle of water. Decided not to drink because based on my drive there, there was about 2 police cars each mile (same on the way back). What it up with that?

Back to the point. Passed on several girls that offered dances. Then this once just sits in my lap, didn't even ask. Starts telling me how cute I am and reaches down to see if I have a pair. Okay, now this is different that every other time I have every been at a strip club. Good think I had the baggy shorts.

After a few words, I let her dance for me. Not only is she rubbing me hard, she is really rubbing herself and is visibly moist. Then she mentions the VIP room, states she has to be nice on the open floor. I am thinking if this is nice, I sure the hell want to hit the VIP room.

Unfortunately, the VIP room was really packed. I guess I should go there during the day, but you know, got to work for a living. Nonetheless, my visit to the VIP room was not disappointing. Reaching up my short, pulling my body out for a little oral attention. She states, there are just too many people there. What the hell, first visit, first girl, first time in VIP room.

Did my think as she please in other ways and tipped. Before I left she gave me her digits and said she was off the next night and to call her for a much better experience. Which I hope will be the case. This girl was a total GFE kissing, licking, nibbing.

I used to think a good AMP was great, but I love the CS. Honestly, I thought some of the posts were a little extreme or that the girls only went further with guys they new. Maybe I am just cute like she said. However, I was clean, casual and not even really looking for anything, just figured I would have a little eye candy.

Having been traveling to Tucson for so long, I regret that I never visited this place sooner. A couple of you senior members might want to give me a limit on what I should spend. I was probably overly generous this time as it was such a great experience. But, I don't want to screw up your economy.

[Sexhobbyist]

I think I can retire now. The unthinkable (and unattainable) happened tonight. Here's the long story.

This week I've been spending time during the day and evening at CS just to see what's new, try out new dancers, and get the feel for the evening shift. Bottom line: the daytime is where it's at. Lot's of enjoyable entertainment. Evenings are okay, but not as many "free spirits" and righteous attitudes willing to....well, you know.

Monday evening I had a nice session with Rosie, the door girl, in the VIP. She got me all worked up using her special technique then I finished with fs from another dancer. I like Rosie. She's a sweatheart and I try to patronize her and she doesn't disappoint even though I always have to finish with another dancer.

Tuesday evening I was in the mood for some ethnic entertainment and I wasn't disappointed. I tried Sincere (emphasis on "Sin") and Armani in the VIP. Both are attractive black dancers with the right attitude. Armani is a tiny little skinny thing. I had a feeling that if I stuck my dick in her, she'd split in two pieces down the middle. Sexhobbyist recommends Armani. Sincere gets a mixed review. Semi-nice attitude, nice natural bod, knows how to work the equipment, but not as personable as Armani and a little lacking in enthusiasm.

Tonight I went to the club after getting some great action earlier in the day with a double header fs experience which will go without details for now. I went back this evening for the third consecutive night just to see some new faces. I recommend Sasha who has a million-dollar butt and got me hot and bothered with several table dances. I didn't take her to the VIP so I don't know how she is there, but I certainly enjoyed the table dances.

I next got some great dances (although tame by SH standards) from LaLa, a 4-foot 9-inch hot little package who has a packed bod. I got several table dances then went to the VIP with her. Nothing extraordinary happened, but I was amazed by that body of hers. I could spend real money on her and never expect extras. I like her enough that I'd get more dances just as a refreshing change of pace from my usual action.

Speaking of usual action...
A miracle happened. A favorite waitress who I have wanted to get it on with was feeling horny and took me to the VIP where we got all hot and bothered. She took out my dick and gave me some nice oral action and I did some fingering. She pulled aside her panties and rubbed me against her clit until she came. She was so horny that she was slipping me in when the bouncer came in. She stopped because she wasn't supposed to be dancing and got caught.

So I was feeling kinda frustrated. I decided to stick around to see what might be possible when I was approached by Josie, a Latina with big natural boobs and a juicy butt. She gave me some table dances and I knew this was going to be a keeper. We went to the VIP room where I wasn't disappointed. Sexhobbyist recommends Josie.

I left satisfied. Finally.

Tomorrow I've got a pre-arranged threesome with two other dancers outside the club that was set up by my female pimp. These are a couple of very desirable honeys that I've had my eye on. I was hoping I could sample them individually, but together they will be a special treat.

Life goes on.
Sexhobbyist

[Weben]

After not quite getting FS the other night, I decided to call the dancer that left me her number. I had a few reservations, but based on my time in the VIP I knew I would at least be pleased.

Long story short, I arrived at her place and spent just about four hours with her. Had a few drinks, chatted for a while and had 2-3 hours of just great.

And, this girl was really into it. I mean, you have girls that do a pretty good job of playing a GFE, but I can usually tell. Anyways, this girl orgasmed twice and she still wasn't done, she got out her little buddy and was pleasing herself even as I dressed to leave. If it wasn't already midnight, I would have stayed and tried to make a third go at it (got two myself and some serious time that was just bbbj).

All I can say is that I need to visit the CS a little more and find a few more girls like the one I have found. I wish Phoenix could have a club or two like this. I have to give it to SH in hooking with with some girls outside the club for a threesome, that is next on my plan of things to do here in Tucson.

[PsyberZombie]

Link?

:-)

Those report links are listed HERE ('http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=517436&postcount=6')

[Merlin Magician]

Someone must have lit a fire under some asses at CS. I swear I got more dance offers from 400 to 500 than I have gotten in a year all together.

I finally took one tall thin lady to the VIP. I had seen her around CS quite a bit. It always comes down to my old stance of taking new, untried talent for a ride. Sure as hell, I spent cash and went way wanting. This lady was not very naughty. She ain't getting in my lap again.

The ladies I know who will make a fun time in VIP were not available.

Lesson learned. Won't do that again. The lovely Amie was just leaving so I could not consult her on talent. My loss. I lament the moving away of Shiloh. I am sorry I missed Chastity again. Isis will no longer be among the entertainment. Damn I hate hunting out new talent. Too many misses, not enough hits.

[Amorist1]

I'the have to agree on that! I happened to have a few moments open the other day and stopped in around 2:30ish. Just a few customers and lots of ladies. Heck, I never even made it to a seat before being asked. When I did sit I hadn't even got my beer before one tall, statuesque, gorgeous lady I'll call Salena hopped into my lap and took a hold of. Well. You know. And wouldn't let go (not that I was minding. Mind you). She wanted to go straight to the VIP but I suggested one on the floor so I could at least get my beer. Well, that one was hot as I've seen on the floor so it was off to the VIP. Dance 1 she was saying things like, "let's see what we have here". Yipes! Dance 2 I seem to recall seeing a belt on a cushion (good thing the VIP was empty). Needless to say it was a very enjoyable experience! The only bad thing was that things moved so quickly it was kinda blurred. But hey. I'm smiling!

[Sexhobbyist]

Damn I hate hunting out new talent. Too many misses, not enough hits.

You pay for your education.
Having paid the tuition, I'll be happy to PM some names to you if requested. (This is not a blanket offer to everyone on the forum to request SH names. This is an offer to Merlin Magician.)
Sexhobbyist

[Kirstyforme]

Someone must have lit a fire under some asses at CS. I swear I got more dance offers from 400 to 500 than I have gotten in a year all together.
I made it in a little later than you (around 8pm). I'm not sure I saw a difference in the attitudes from some of the dancers. Some still just sitting around and others just sitting with each other not dancing for anyone. That's ok with me, I'll happily spend my money with the others that are looking to earn it.

On another note I will mention a heads up. When in VIP last night there were a couple of girls getting 'down and dirty' with their guys. They apparently weren't doing it very discreetly. Not sure who might have said anything but I witnessed the bouncer come in to VIP and just stand and stare over the particular couch watching for what seemed like minutes. In one case he said something to the guy and in the other he said nothing but just stood there.

I now return you to your regular programming....
K4me

[Sexhobbyist]

Continued my week-long day and evening visits to CS (except for Thurs when I was being entertained off-site by two dancers in a five-hour marathon threesome f**kfest). I really dislike going to the club on Fridays, as expressed in a previous post, but I did it anyway. I specifically wanted to try once more to attract a dancer to my web who only works on Fridays. I've had my eye on her for a few months, but she's eluded me. Today I enlisted the aid of another dancer, one of my regulars, to seek her out and introduce her to me. It worked.

After one table dance during which she sucked my dick right there on the floor, I swooped her to the VIP. We made enough small talk for her to know that I was a regular and not LEO, and that I knew what I was doing. She began to show me that she knew what she was doing as well. It was a delightful experience that climaxed (no pun intended) in lots of DATY, bbbj, and an unsolicited invitation to enter her sweet spot. We did the cowgirl and reverse cowgirl before I couldn't hold back any longer. Her body was a monger's heaven to play with. I've rarely had such fun with the entire package.

She was a surprisingly talented provider. All aspects of her technique were of the highest caliber. All those months of painstaking patience paid off big time. We traded digits for future rendezvous. She became the latest SH conquest of a dancer who went the whole way the first time they've experienced my charms. I'm adding her to my stable and will put her into my rotation in and out of the club.

And then one of the dancers with whom I was with the previous day joined me at my table about twenty minutes after I'd finished my VIP visit. I didn't know what to expect, but she was bubbling over with enthusiastic joy for the session. She volunteered that her pussy was sore and throbbing, but that she wanted more of me. Now. Right now. I was hoping for some time to recharge my juices, so I stalled as long as I could by making conversation. Eventually, she led me to the VIP where she proceeded to have her way with me. And I mean she literally took over and plundered me. I didn't climax, but she came twice. Now the surprise. She didn't want any money. She was still on a sexual high from the previous day. She's now been converted to a sex-for-free trollop of SH and I'll be sure to keep her satisfied. The price is right.
Sexhobbyist

[Littlell]

All those months of painstaking patience paid off big time. We traded digits for future rendezvous.

She became the latest SH conquest of a dancer who went the whole way the first time they've experienced my charms.

I'm adding her to my stable and will put her into my rotation in and out of the club.

She didn't want any money.

She's now been converted to a sex-for-free trollop of SH and I'll be sure to keep her satisfied.

The price is right.

SexhobbyistYou are my hero!

[Desert Dog]

Made a stop by at the CS shortly after it opened today. Sure am glad I did. Great service from all the ladies. In particular I as always enjoyed my time in the VIP with Chloe and Hydra at separate times. Thumbs up and recommendations for both gentlemen. Couple of young new latinas since I as in last and it looks like they are serious candidates for Sh's YDaFoC club. Saw one providing BB action in the VIP.

As always good luck gents,

D Dog

[Bazooka Joe]

Hello All,

This is my first post in this section and I wanted to start by thanking you guys for making things easy on a newbie. I have read through most of the posts and they have been a big help. Although deffinatly not my first trip to a strip club, it is helpfull to gain a sense of clarity and "whats what" and "who's who. "

Went to CS this afternoon and had some good dances. First dance was by a girl with braids. African american. Didn't get her name. She gave a very good dance with lots of groping and had me wanting to take her to the VIP room right off the bat, but I had just sat down and got my drink so I opted not too. Her body also left a little bit to be desired as I don't normally like girls that big. I prefer petite. I would give her Dance a 8, attitude 8, and looks a 5 or 6.

I was sitting upstairs in the section on the far wall and wasn't getting much attention as most of the traffic it seemed we're either focused on going to to the back room, or if they were coming out of the back room, heading to the floor. I opted to move down onto the floor, and was promptly asked for a dance by a latina.

She had perfect face and body but her dance style was kind of blah, and she made no indication of any 'special attention' so I passed after the second dance. I didn't catch her name either, but I would give her Dance a 3/4, attitude 6, loooks 9.

Next up was a girl who called herself "Bad Girl. " Pretty good body, huge, fake tits. Kinda crappy personality. She started off saying she wanted to warn me that she charges $7 per dance and could I afford that (was I wearing a sign that said Broke peice of sh---? I wasn't dressed in Gucci but come on. Can I afford $7? Thats just kinda insulting). I said money is not an object but is she worth spending the extra cash on. She said she thought she was so we got to BSing while waiting for the song to end. Some how we got on the subject of cooking and she talked about it through the whole damn dance. The Dance itself was actually pretty good. It would have been a lot better if she didn't talk trhough the whole thing. She kept grabbing and groping me but I was turned off by her attitude and her big mouth so I didn't go anywhere past the first dance. Should have known right off the bat when she sat down. I give her Dance a 7 (would have been more if she shut up), attitude 3, looks 7.

At that point I decided to leave and maybe come in earlier on a different day. All in all it was a fairly good experience I guess. I will check it out more and give it another chance maybe with some other girls.

[Sexhobbyist]

Couple of young new latinas since I as in last and it looks like they are serious candidates for Sh's YDaFoC club. Saw one providing BB action in the VIP.

D Dog

That was me getting the bbbj...and more.
Sexhobbyist

[Sexhobbyist]

I decided to go to a strip club where they don't know me as a regular customer just to see what I could find. Dropped into TD's East because it's been a while since I was last there. They used to have some smokin' hot dancers back when it was one of my regular hangouts. I'll have to admit that they still have some great looking women even though the college girls are still gone for the summer. This place used to be known as the club where the UofA coeds would earn their tuition.

Although no fs today, I had a great time with some terrific dancers. I never had to get my dick out of my pants and yet I met some dancers with the right attitude who knew how to treat a customer.

Sexhobbyist recommends Sierra (the queen bee of the establishment, and deservedly so) and Karen, who became my guilty pleasure. I took both into the VIP and they were delightful, personable, talented, charming, funny, and accommodating. I'd happily make both of them my regular squeeze.

Also recommended is Tia, a bodacious asian, Chrissy, a teeny, tiny, talented dancer, Nina, who is the all-American-girl-next-door who will completely charm you and who has a wicked butt and legs, and Brooke, a tall, curvaceous, honey who has a figure to drool over.

The interesting thing is, while I spent about three hours there, at most there were about six customers in the place at the same time. Now I know why. All the customers were over at CS. I stopped there on my way home and the place was jumping. The VIP was full with a line waiting to get in.

I'm going to have to go on record to say that TD's East was a very pleasant surprise and I recommend it as an uncrowded (for now) alternative to CS.

Sexhobbyist

[Desert Dog]

Say SH,

I had heard that both of the TD's establishments were in financial straights and that they will be closing, or at least I would imagine a change of ownership/management in the near future. Any knowledge on that subject? Also are they still charging $8 for a table dance?

D Dog

[Sexhobbyist]

I've also heard about the financial situation of the TD's clubs, but, today, nobody knew anything about it. My info came from outside sources. Yes, they still charge $8 for a table dance. Damned inconvenient.

In my report, I also meant to say that I was there during the afternoon.

Sexhobbyist


Say SH,

I had heard that both of the TD's establishments were in financial straights and that they will be closing, or at least I would imagine a change of ownership/management in the near future. Any knowledge on that subject? Also are they still charging $8 for a table dance?

D Dog

[Sexhobbyist]

Sexhobbyist's Guide to Strip Clubs, part 4

TYPES OF STRIPPERS
(Credit: Neil Miller, Doubleviking dot com)

The Perfect 10—a.k.a. "The Pretty Girl"
Could be new; could be a career girl. However, always totally gorgeous and has a smoking body. However, she gets by completely on her looks and works better as eye candy than as a lap dancer. Avoid this one unless you're at an all-nude, no-touch club.

The New Kid on the Block
This girl's new to stripping. She's often very pretty and usually is working her way through college. Her inexperience makes her inconsistent. She can be good or bad, depending on the girl. She might be too nervous to give a good show, but she might be more adventurous and "go that extra mile." Take this gamble only if she'll actually drink what you buy her from the bar.

The Old Gray Mare—a.k.a. "The Lifer"
This girl is way past her prime. She may have been hot 15 or 20 years ago, but too many kids, too much drinking and too much smoking has taken its toll. The other girls won't tip her even if they're using your money. Don't be surprised if she's related to the club owner.

The Bait-and-Switch
Watch out for these girls as they cover a variety of demographics. These strippers are out for fast cash and don't have any regular customers. They prey on the new guys. Their m.o. is to promise or imply extras, especially if they quote you a specific tip amount, but never deliver. Test for this one by getting the $20 couch dance before buying time in the back room.

The Career Girl
Unless you're looking for a specific body type, you're going to have your best time with this girl. She's usually a 6 to an 8—hot enough to fulfill the stripper fantasy, but not perfect. Realistically, they often have a boyfriend or husband, they're a working mother and a little older (late 20s or early 30s). However, she's got a stock of regulars, and she's figured out the biz. She knows how to show a good time, she's a good provider and definitely worth the money.


Sexhobbyist's comments:
I love the Career Girls. They know how to treat a customer and are willing to be flexible. I've seen them for years at various clubs and usually follow them when they change venues. They have known me for a long time and know what I need and they get paid accordingly. There's no surprises with them. They're like comfort food—always good or the soul.

I don't mind trying out the New Kid on the Block because I have the opportunity to train them to my standards. I've done this successfully many times. The downside is, once they get broken in by me, they usually leave the business. A hazard of the business.

What are your stripper types?

Sexhobbyist

[Booty Pirate]

SH,

I noticed you didn't mention Aiko from TD's East - she usually works days and nights. If you've been going there for a number of years, I'm sure you know her or know of her.

BP

[Desert Dog]

Made a trip to the local SC s today and as usual had the best of times at the CS. Hooked back up with a couple of old stand by dancers for me. I spent some extended time in the VIP with both Ricky and Sasha at different times. All I can say is mm mmm good. I recommend them both gentlemen.

Enjoy,

D Dog

[Sexhobbyist]

I spent some extended time in the VIP with both Ricky and Sasha at different times. All I can say is mm mmm good. I recommend them both gentlemen.

D Dog

I gotta admit, Sasha has a world-class ass. Sexhobbyist also recommends some quality time with Sasha's billion-dollar butt. Enough said.
Sexhobbyist

[Kirstyforme]

I've been debating whether to mention this in the open forum but after my experience this past Tues night I've decided to speak up.

Went in to CS last week Wed night (I usually go in during the day). Kind of a slow night in there but was still looking to have a decent time. Along comes Cayden and a good table dance. Asks to move to VIP. Now I've taken Cayden to VIP before and things were good so I agree. Cayden obviously doesn't remember me (no big deal) but such is life. After 5 VIP dances she opts to take a break and asks for payment (5 VIP plus one floor). She asks for a min of $100! I'm thinking that is a bit steep but she looks good and I'm a pushover for a pretty girl. I reluctantly gave her the C note and waited for her return (at this point I've only got $50 left so I decided to finish the night with her). Upon her return I ended up buying her a couple more shots (three in total) and a couple more VIP dances to finish off my cash.

Things should have ended there but after the investment I thought I'd continue for a bit. Decided to hit the ATM and try a few more dances. As I suspected the dances got better (quite a bit but not the ultimate). After 9 more VIP I was ready to call it a night. Now she asks for another $300! She had to settle for less since I didn't get that much out of the ATM but even what I gave her was WAY more than it should have been. I left feeling like the biggest strip club rookie....

To top it all off was back in this past Tues night. Saw Cayden come by my table a couple of times and she didn't even give me a smile. Talk about lack of appreciation.

So, bottom line is decent mileage but in my book WAY, WAY overpriced. Good looks and nice dances but attitude doesn't get my recommendation. You can do much better...

Sorry for the rant but hopefully this will save some of you some trouble.
K4me

[Netveg1]

I've been debating whether to mention this in the open forum but after my experience this past Tues night I've decided to speak up.

Went in to CS last week Wed night (I usually go in during the day). Kind of a slow night in there but was still looking to have a decent time. Along comes Cayden and a good table dance. Asks to move to VIP. Now I've taken Cayden to VIP before and things were good so I agree. Cayden obviously doesn't remember me (no big deal) but such is life. After 5 VIP dances she opts to take a break and asks for payment (5 VIP plus one floor). She asks for a min of $100! I'm thinking that is a bit steep but she looks good and I'm a pushover for a pretty girl. I reluctantly gave her the C note and waited for her return (at this point I've only got $50 left so I decided to finish the night with her). Upon her return I ended up buying her a couple more shots (three in total) and a couple more VIP dances to finish off my cash.

Things should have ended there but after the investment I thought I'd continue for a bit. Decided to hit the ATM and try a few more dances. As I suspected the dances got better (quite a bit but not the ultimate). After 9 more VIP I was ready to call it a night. Now she asks for another $300! She had to settle for less since I didn't get that much out of the ATM but even what I gave her was WAY more than it should have been. I left feeling like the biggest strip club rookie....

To top it all off was back in this past Tues night. Saw Cayden come by my table a couple of times and she didn't even give me a smile. Talk about lack of appreciation.

So, bottom line is decent mileage but in my book WAY, WAY overpriced. Good looks and nice dances but attitude doesn't get my recommendation. You can do much better...

Sorry for the rant but hopefully this will save some of you some trouble.
K4meThanks for the warning. I'll definitely avoid her based on that review. I don't care how good a girl looks, but we're not in Vegas and I refuse to pay Vegas prices. I tip and I tip well, but it certainly won't be at the insistance of the dancer.

[Netveg1]

I gotta admit, Sasha has a world-class ass. Sexhobbyist also recommends some quality time with Sasha's billion-dollar butt. Enough said.
SexhobbyistWhen I used to frequent CS during the daytime, Sasha was a favorite of mine. Spent may a sessions in VIP with her and after getting to know her well, the dances definitely improved.

[Netveg1]

Sexhobbyist's Guide to Strip Clubs, part 4

The Career Girl
Unless you're looking for a specific body type, you're going to have your best time with this girl. She's usually a 6 to an 8—hot enough to fulfill the stripper fantasy, but not perfect. Realistically, they often have a boyfriend or husband, they're a working mother and a little older (late 20s or early 30s). However, she's got a stock of regulars, and she's figured out the biz. She knows how to show a good time, she's a good provider and definitely worth the money.

SexhobbyistExcellent post, SH. IMHO, the best career girl at night has to be Tiffany, followed closely by Lala (shame about the name, though). Tiffany is incredible on the floor and even better in VIP. Great personality, easy to talk to, very professional attitude, and has the best looking ass in the business. Lala has a great body and is just fun to be around.

[Merlin Magician]

It's all about the money...

Sad that some gals have to hustle us punters. I got hustled last week. At least she TRIED to hustle me. I won't call names but you won't see her in my lap again.

[rupert1]

Does anybody have an angle on Josie/Josephine of the Candy store. Seen her dance in the club a couple of times. I think she works at nights there. Pleas pm me with a ny info. Thanks

[Sexhobbyist]

Kirstyforme: Your experience is a hazard of the hobby. There are some short-sighted providers who can't see the big picture and will take advantage of a customer for a short-term gain. The best thing to do is to publicize her name so that others don't get screwed (figuratively speaking, of course).

Rupert1: I've seen Josephine on stage, but not yet had an opportunity to experience her. Let me know if I should.

Netveg1: I've written recently about LaLa. She is a delightful bit of dynamite in a tiny package. No extras, but a real pleasure to be with. Great personality. I'd spend money on her just for the company. And that's saying a lot!

Sexhobbyist

[Desert Dog]

The bottom line is that unless a dancer quotes me a higher rate before she starts AND I agree to it there is no way in hell I would be giving more than the standard rate plus tip if applicable. Dont get me wrong there are some that are worth the cash and some that might be getting that amount in the end anyway, but I certainly wouldnt let them dictate the terms. Selena at the cs for instance asks for more up front, but be assured that she is worth every cent. Julia is another that if she asked for I woukd give it fair consideration.


Just my two cents worth and as always YMMV

D Dog

[Sexhobbyist]

A couple of interesting things happened this week.

A dancer who I've gotten close to doing fs came up to me and asked if I'd do anal instead of regular. Yes, of course, I told her. We get to the VIP and she's getting all hot and bothered. I'm doing my best to get her prepared. We tried a couple of times but she said it hurt because I was too big. So...she straddled me cowgirl and we did a regular fs session until she came so loud we drew too much attention. Now I know why she wanted to do anal. When she climaxes, she sounds like an air raid warning siren. I thought for sure we'd be busted.

At another club this past week I was trying a new dancer in the VIP. She never danced for me before at the tables or in the VIP. I had her in the VIP based upon the recommendation of a waitress friend. We sat down on the couch and the first thing she said was, "What are your fetishes?" A thousand different fetishes ran through my mind. I didn't know if she was just making conversation or fishing for something more intimate. Since I didn't know exactly what kind of answer she was looking for, I told her that I had two fetishes, passionate french kissing and fingering wet pussies. The next thing I knew she was cleaning my tonsils with her tongue in one of the most passionate liplocks I've experienced in a long time. This went on for about five minutes and I was getting really turned on when she took my hand and guided it into her t-bar to feel her moist pussy. I began fingering her and it was like the dam burst. She was really turned on by now and was squirming with the fingering while kissing the hell out of me. She drenched my fingers when she climaxed and collapsed with her head against my chest. Not a bad beginning for us. And she hadn't even started dancing yet. Needless to say the rest of the session went great. I asked her what her fetishes were and when she told me, I performed them on her. By the time we were done, neither of us could walk and we both had embarrassing stains on our clothes from an exchange of bodily fluids. Thinking back on the experience, I thought she had a very clever opening line. I just wish that I'd said that my favorite fetish is face sitting or DP or threesomes or....

Also this week my female pimp kept me busy with luscious honeys including a couple of new prospects in a couple of the clubs. Details forthcoming once I've finished with them.

Sexhobbyist

[rupert1]

Thanks SH, she danced for me once about a week ago. The next time I was there she was tied up in the VIP for hours. Will try to check her out again hopefully soon. Thanks

[Booty Pirate]

Either you bastards are lazy ass slackers or you've been toooooo freakin' busy in the VIP to post!

hahaha!

BP

[Sexhobbyist]

Either you bastards are lazy ass slackers or you've been toooooo freakin' busy in the VIP to post!

hahaha!

BP

Busy here. Busy daily. Too many clubs, too many dancers, too many VIPs. My female pimp has been earning her keep. I'll report when I can.
Sexhobbyist

[Sexhobbyist]

Been busy at the clubs the past ten days. Here's my update.

TD's West has undergone a remodeling. The stage has been reconfigured to look like a barbell with two big stages connected by a runway between them. Add in new tables, chairs and couches. Table dances are now $5. Couch dances are $10. VIP dances are $20 with no admittance charge. The remodeling has been done for a while, but nobody on this board knew it because, apparently, nobody goes there. I spent several days there without anything good to say about the place. During the day, the most dancers working were six. The most customers I saw were five.

Here's what the new management of TD's West needs to learn. A remodeling with new chairs and clean white tablecloths is not going to bring in customers. It's the dancers, stupid. You've still got the heifers. In the days I was there, I saw only Angel who I would classify as having a normal female figure. The rest are apple-bottomed, wasp-waisted, trailer-park trash. I was unable during any of my recent visits to find any dancer worthy of the VIP. The management needs someone hiring who has a good eye for talent instead of hiring any old street bimbo who walks in the door. The lack of decent dancers will be the greater problem for this club—not the interior design.

Curves is still Curves except the prices have changed—$10 for a floor dance and $20 for a VIP or Champagne dance (plus a $20 admission charge to the Champagne room). I have to admit that the dancers at Curves are a sharp contrast to those at TD's West. All of the Curves dancers were pleasant eye candy, but I found only one without surgically enhanced boobs. All those women, all that artificial boobage. There were plenty of dancers circulating. During my visits, I was never very long without getting a dancer offer.

The several times I went to the Champagne room were fairly uneventful even though I thought I had identified likely dancers with the right attitude. In my opinion, the value isn't there when compared with other establishments. Unless, of course, you like luscious-looking women in your lap sucking your wallet dry without hardly any mileage.

The eastside clubs are where the action and value are. Any of the clubs, Tens, TD's East, Candy Store, and Raider's Reef, are a better bang for the buck (no pun intended). I've found some hidden gems at these four clubs that kept me satisfied during the last ten days. Unless you live on the west side, serious mongers won't bother with those clubs unless they already have established relationships with the heifers and/or eye candy. The west side does not impress me. Others may have different experiences and, as always, ymmv.

Sexhobbyist

[Booty Pirate]

When I'm in town, I never hit TD's West - now I have a good reason not to start. Thanks for taking one (or more) for the team, SH. Good review. I'll vouch for TD's East and Raider's Reef. Last time in town, I had some free time before lunch and drove by Candystore - thinking maybe I'd run into some of the famed gents on here like SH, Dick North, etc. However, the parking lot was packed and I saw about 8 more dudes strolling in. In the end, I decided to pass. Funny thing was, SH's phrase "Johnny Paycheck" came to mind and yes, it was in fact Friday. Maybe one day...

Any recommendations at Ten's?

BP

[Bazooka Joe]

I was in Ten's about a month ago and got some great floor and VIP dances. I can't remember the names of the dancers now... I was in on a weekday at about 1pm-ish and spent a couple hours. Got some great floor dances from the first girl with lots of groping and great attention to the right places. Decided to see what else the club had to offer and tried a different girl who also gave great floor dances so I decided to take her up to VIP. VIP was empty except for the two of us so things went a lot farther then I was expecting. Walked out with a smile on my face for sure. I reccomend checking it out on day when it isn't packed, but of course, YMMV.

[Sexhobbyist]

Any recommendations at Ten's?

BP

Yes. Check your PM.
Sexhobbyist

[Amorist1]

Well, I suppose some days are just like that. Was on that side of town and had a few so stopped in. Wow. Must have been a holiday of some sort. Maybe 5 or 6 patrons and MAYBE 2 or 3 girls circulating. Oh well, I suppose on the good side my total outlay was for the beer!

Better times ahead.

[Amorist1]

Maybe SH had them all in the VIP room.

[Sexhobbyist]

I agree the past week seems to have the "B team" in residence at the CS. The usual fun dancers seem to be absent, on vacation, lazy, in a drug stupor, whatever. Not much fun there recently—just a bj or two. I hope they all don't have syncronized monthly cycles and have fled the club until things "clear up."

Sexhobbyist


Well, I suppose some days are just like that. Was on that side of town and had a few so stopped in. Wow. Must have been a holiday of some sort. Maybe 5 or 6 patrons and MAYBE 2 or 3 girls circulating. Oh well, I suppose on the good side my total outlay was for the beer!

Better times ahead.

[Sexhobbyist]

CS on Friday was back to being normal (for CS, that is). Lots of regular dancers and customers as well as "Johnny Paycheck" making his weekly visit to spend his allowance. I was fortunate to have a double-header in the VIP. A third dancer was expecting to get her share of me, but politely kissed me off during the second of my fs sessions. I guess she didn't want sloppy thirds. Such is life.

I had a nice interlude with some favorites as well as the fs team. It was a good day to be at CS.

I found out that more than a couple of dancers were working at other clubs during the week, hence the absence of "A-team talent" this past week at CS. The word is that the other clubs were slow. Only one dancer managed to make a buck at Curves.

Sexhobbyist

[Juicy Amie]

Funny you mention that SH I will be there on monday

[Sexhobbyist]

I met an interesting dancer at Ten's today. Her name is Armani, a tall, solid, black dancer with luscious thighs, shapely calves, and a butt to die for. She had a nice friendly attitude so I took her to the VIP where she gave me some nice dances—not over-the-top, but nice and accommodating. If you like terrific legs attached to a gorgeous ass, this is a woman you don't want to miss.
Sexhobbyist

[Hunter955]

Went to the CS for the first time yesterday. Girls were OK, not many 8 to 10s but some nice girls. Went for some table dances and got a lot of mileage for $5 dances. Went into the VIP and was very impressed and came away smiling. Just let her know that hard working girls get tipped. Thanks to you guys who wrote on here about CS. I go to Tucson on business 2-3 times a year and had been going to TD-East but got less mileage for my money.

[Hunter955]

Went to the CS Tuesday for my first visit. Usually come into town 2-3 times a year and have been going to TD-East. The CS girls were OK a few were in the 8 to 10 range. Great lap dances and great time in the VIP. Left with a smile. Good prices for what is provided. Will go back.

[Sexhobbyist]

Although it's just Thursday, here's a report: This week I had five fs encounters in several local clubs. Two of the encounters were by first-time fs converts. There is no doubt that CS is the club that has the best value for the dollar. Other clubs may have more eye candy, but CS has the dancers with the right attitude and mongers can count on the most fun experience.

Having said that, there is plenty of talent available in other clubs. It's just a matter of spending some money to find the ones who are worth the VIP trip. It seems that almost all the clubs are nearly deserted during the day. Except for TD's West, there are enough dancers for a monger to take his pick and try several. Those who like the "hefty" women have TD's West all to themselves. For the rest of us, the clubs are perfect right now for trying out the talent. There is something for all tastes.

Sexhobbyist

[LoveLOS]

4 months... :(

[Kirstyforme]

Well, add me to the list of finally achieving the fs 'holy grail' strip club experience! Took many visits and cultivating a few dancers but success was finally achieved.

Guys the experience is awaiting if you are patient and watchful. Listen to the experience of others on the board (SH, MM, and MB come to mind immediately) as they are a wealth of knowledge and guidance.

Now that my strip club cherry is broken I'll have to see about raising the batting average, lol.

[Merlin Magician]

Td's West is up and running again like the first time I ever saw it. The mgt has brought in a bunch of PHX girls and they were going nuts offering table dances. A few of the old heifer types with hefty asses were in force but they were getting overrun by the sleeker PHX girls. There are finally some stunners back working TD's and things have turned around.

My biggest surprise was the beautiful tall blonde lady who was a waitress for that last couple of years there is now dancing. I was floored as I had been trying to get her in my lap when she was slinging drinks, but she didn't dance then. Now she do and she is a knockout in her new uniform just like I imagined she would be. What a set of knockers!! I'm still drooling!

[Sexhobbyist]

Td's West is up and running again like the first time I ever saw it. The mgt has brought in a bunch of PHX girls and they were going nuts offering table dances. A few of the old heifer types with hefty asses were in force but they were getting overrun by the sleeker PHX girls. There are finally some stunners back working TD's and things have turned around.

About d**m time! I'll have to check it out. Hopefully there will be some dancers with talent and the right attitude. It's been really pathetic in there lately so this promises to be a good omen if it continues.

Thanks for the update, MM.
Sexhobbyist

[Sexhobbyist]

True story (unless you are LEO reading this, in which case this is a figment of my imagination). There is a witness which lends credibility to the story. (Unless you are LEO, in which case, the witness has left town.) It sounds very self-serving, but I can't help it. You'll see.

Early in the week I was club hopping trying to find some new talent with the right attitude willing to make some money. The CS is getting too familiar so I was venturing out. I was in a club where I know one of the waitresses. I "know" her in the carnal sense. I asked her for some help identifying suitable entertainment and she introduced me to a cute young thing. A couple of table dances indicated to me that she'd be worth taking to the VIP. We had a great time playing with each other, but no fs. While in the VIP, the waitress-friend came in several times to see how we were doing. The two of them played with my dick together after they took it out of my pants they kept talking about how big it is. The conversation kept up for too long, then died out, then was revived. I was getting perturbed because they wouldn't shut up about it. The waitress left and came back several times and gave her blessing to what was transpiring and even participated a little. I had a good time and paid each appropriately and left.

Yesterday (Friday) I went back to the club and that dancer was on stage as soon as I walked in. I went up to the stage and tipped her and she said she was hoping I would come in today. After getting off stage, she came and sat in my lap. We exchanged pleasantries and headed to the VIP. My waitress-friend came in and saw that I had found my dancer and that we were already getting started. The two of them pulled my dick out and, together, gave me one helluva bbbj. I was very impressed. The dancer then reached for her little purse and pulled out a measuring tape. Yep! A measuring tape! She measured my dick! The waitress helped. This is the first time I've ever had my dick measured by anyone, anytime, anyplace. I couldn't believe it. The dancer and waitress made lots of remarks about the size then the waitress left so as not to get into trouble. After she left, the dancer climbed on my lap in cowgirl position and began rubbing her clit with my dick. I could feel her getting wet and slippery. She put my dick in her pussy and I yelled "stop!" Startled, she pulled it out quick and looked at me like she was in big trouble. I pulled out a condom and she grabbed it out of my hand, dressed me, mounted me, and rode me through three orgasms (hers, not mine). After her third, I came once. After it was over she said that she'd never had a man's dick in her pussy except her boyfriend's. Said she was a virgin until he came along. But that the only reason I got to fuck her was because my dick was so big and she didn't think she'd ever get another one that big again in her life and she wanted to experience it once. She said she was so happy I came back and was hoping to see me again and suddenly, there I was at stageside. She said she came prepared to check me out in case I came back. I told her that I've never been examined like that before, ever. She said she wanted the memory of it for her old age which is why she brought the measuring tape.

Just when I thought I'd experienced it all in a strip club....
Sexhobbyist

[Wireless91910]

Sexhobbyist:

Did they use a 4-inch tape measure?? Just kidding!!! Great work!!

Wireless91910



True story (unless you are LEO reading this, in which case this is a figment of my imagination). There is a witness which lends credibility to the story. (Unless you are LEO, in which case, the witness has left town.) It sounds very self-serving, but I can't help it. You'll see.

Early in the week I was club hopping trying to find some new talent with the right attitude willing to make some money. The CS is getting too familiar so I was venturing out. I was in a club where I know one of the waitresses. I "know" her in the carnal sense. I asked her for some help identifying suitable entertainment and she introduced me to a cute young thing. A couple of table dances indicated to me that she'd be worth taking to the VIP. We had a great time playing with each other, but no fs. While in the VIP, the waitress-friend came in several times to see how we were doing. The two of them played with my dick together after they took it out of my pants they kept talking about how big it is. The conversation kept up for too long, then died out, then was revived. I was getting perturbed because they wouldn't shut up about it. The waitress left and came back several times and gave her blessing to what was transpiring and even participated a little. I had a good time and paid each appropriately and left.

Yesterday (Friday) I went back to the club and that dancer was on stage as soon as I walked in. I went up to the stage and tipped her and she said she was hoping I would come in today. After getting off stage, she came and sat in my lap. We exchanged pleasantries and headed to the VIP. My waitress-friend came in and saw that I had found my dancer and that we were already getting started. The two of them pulled my dick out and, together, gave me one helluva bbbj. I was very impressed. The dancer then reached for her little purse and pulled out a measuring tape. Yep! A measuring tape! She measured my dick! The waitress helped. This is the first time I've ever had my dick measured by anyone, anytime, anyplace. I couldn't believe it. The dancer and waitress made lots of remarks about the size then the waitress left so as not to get into trouble. After she left, the dancer climbed on my lap in cowgirl position and began rubbing her clit with my dick. I could feel her getting wet and slippery. She put my dick in her pussy and I yelled "stop!" Startled, she pulled it out quick and looked at me like she was in big trouble. I pulled out a condom and she grabbed it out of my hand, dressed me, mounted me, and rode me through three orgasms (hers, not mine). After her third, I came once. After it was over she said that she'd never had a man's dick in her pussy except her boyfriend's. Said she was a virgin until he came along. But that the only reason I got to fuck her was because my dick was so big and she didn't think she'd ever get another one that big again in her life and she wanted to experience it once. She said she was so happy I came back and was hoping to see me again and suddenly, there I was at stageside. She said she came prepared to check me out in case I came back. I told her that I've never been examined like that before, ever. She said she wanted the memory of it for her old age which is why she brought the measuring tape.

Just when I thought I'd experienced it all in a strip club....
Sexhobbyist

[MyThicBrew]

Hey K4me,

Good job and congrats! Welcome to the club, 8^)

BTW, SH has succeeded in this a few months ago. But I finally succeeded in FS on the main floor, not once but twice, both of the last two Fridays. What a rush. 8^)

MythicBrew


Well, add me to the list of finally achieving the fs 'holy grail' strip club experience! Took many visits and cultivating a few dancers but success was finally achieved.

Guys the experience is awaiting if you are patient and watchful. Listen to the experience of others on the board (SH, MM, and MB come to mind immediately) as they are a wealth of knowledge and guidance.

Now that my strip club cherry is broken I'll have to see about raising the batting average, lol.

[Missing Sonora]

edited: sorry. stupid question. should have spent more time reading the forum first.

[Sexhobbyist]

Sexhobbyist:

Did they use a 4-inch tape measure?? Just kidding!!! Great work!!

Wireless91910


It was a millimeter gauge...a micrometer and a magnifying glass.

[Sexhobbyist]

The annual Tucson Weekly Best of Tucson edition is out. The gay (nothing wrong with being gay, as Seinfeld would say) editor and writers have chosen Curves as the best Gentlemen's Club. TD's West/East and Ten's came in second and third, respectively. The problem here is that trying to get the gay Tucson Weekly staff to understand "gentlemen's clubs" is like trying to explain the color blue to a blind man. Their rationale for picking Curves: "the girls are pretty."

Oh, did I mention that Curves has a full-page color ad? Yeah. Follow the money.

Sexhobbyist

[Missing Sonora]

Hey guys,

I've been searching the forum and I can only find part 4 of Sexhobbyist guide to strip clubs. If the first 3 parts are available could someone be so kind to provide a link for me?

I'm from the east coast and I'm headed into town next week on a week-long business trip, and I'd like to read all I can before I leave. I've spent alot of time perusing this forum, and I have to tell you that it is a bit discouraging to find out that being an out-of-towner will likely hinder my success, but it's certainly understandable considering the circumstances.

If anyone would like to offer advice or even be willing to meet up with me for a few drinks I'd be grateful. Things tend to go alot smoother when you know a local. Feel free to PM me if you'd like.

Thanks guys and gals.

[Kirstyforme]

Hey guys,

I've been searching the forum and I can only find part 4 of Sexhobbyist guide to strip clubs. If the first 3 parts are available could someone be so kind to provide a link for me?

Part 1
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491114&postcount=287

Part 2
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=492070&postcount=291

Part 3
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=492964&postcount=294

Very good reading!

[Missing Sonora]

Part 1
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=491114&postcount=287

Part 2
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=492070&postcount=291

Part 3
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=492964&postcount=294

Very good reading!Thanks so much Kirstyforme!

[Sexhobbyist]

Will these Phoenix dancers be dancing Phoenix-style which is pretty lame or Tucson-style which is more aggressive? Second question: What is the incentive for these imported dancers to build up their regular client list if they aren't going to be here after a while? I guess I'll just have to go visit to see for myself.
Sexhobbyist


Td's West is up and running again like the first time I ever saw it. The mgt has brought in a bunch of PHX girls and they were going nuts offering table dances. A few of the old heifer types with hefty asses were in force but they were getting overrun by the sleeker PHX girls. There are finally some stunners back working TD's and things have turned around.

My biggest surprise was the beautiful tall blonde lady who was a waitress for that last couple of years there is now dancing. I was floored as I had been trying to get her in my lap when she was slinging drinks, but she didn't dance then. Now she do and she is a knockout in her new uniform just like I imagined she would be. What a set of knockers!! I'm still drooling!

[Kirstyforme]

I wandered in around 2pm or so. Not completely empty of mongers but certainly no where near full. Next thing I knew I had a steady stream of dancers looking for my attention (and not just a quick table dance). I guess I should consider it an ego boost!

Over the next 1 1/2 hours I spent some quality time with Hydra, Mercedes, Lisa, a lovely brunette latina who I still need to get a name on, and of course one of my regular favorites - Tasia. I felt like a kid in a candy store (pun intended).

I definitely want to check out some of the other clubs around town again but with odds like these it's hard to resist.

K4me

[Sexhobbyist]

FS double-header at TD's West today from two different dancers who have never danced for me before.

I spent a couple of hours this afternoon at TD's West just to follow-up on Merlin Magician's post about trucked-in dancers from Phoenix. Sure enough, I saw the usual apple-bottom gang as well as some fresh faces. I'm not sure where they were from because, of the dancers I spoke to, all of them said they were from Tucson.

It didn't take long for a dancer with luscious curves to ask me for a dance. I could tell immediately from her dance that she was VIP-worthy. After a few more table dances to get warmed up, we went to the VIP (now with a $20 admittance fee). We were really getting into the mood and she was getting nice and wet. One thing led to another and we did the deed. She came, I didn't. This was the first time she had ever danced for me, and, hopefully, it won't be the last.

When she left to get ready for her stage appearance, I got another dancer to come and entertain me in the VIP while I still had a rock-hard erection. I had seen her earlier outside the club on my way in and she looked appealing and trashy enough to attract the attention of my little soldier. Sure enough, she didn't disappoint me and we fucked our brains out until I came hard. I came too soon because she also wanted anal. Next time.

I asked both of them why they took me all the way on our first "date." They both said they were horny and I had a nice dick. I rewarded each appropriately and made a mental note to come back again.

Senior members can PM for details.

Sexhobbyist

[Kirstyforme]

I'm trying to reply to your PM but you've exceeded your message limit. Probably too tired after all that CR action, lol!

K4me

[MyThicBrew]

Yes, CR was great!

Although I'd like to blame my mailbox maintenance laziness on that... ok, yeah that's the reason. 8^)

CS was happening last night. Had a good first time dance with Chastity in the VIP. Big bolt ons, not my usual thing but a fun change of pace.

MythicBrew


I'm trying to reply to your PM but you've exceeded your message limit. Probably too tired after all that CR action, lol!

K4me

[Desert Dog]

Dont normally patronize the club in the night time, but I was on my way back into town and driving past so I thought a drink or two with a titty or two would be nice to end the night. Not a whole lot of talent, but I just want to give props to one of my all time favs there who mainly works nights and at the door, Rosie. What a sexy gal and fun as hell in the VIP. If seniors haven't experienced her and need details PM me, or just stop in and give her a try.

D Dog

[Sexhobbyist]

Dont normally patronize the club in the night time, but I was on my way back into town and driving past so I thought a drink or two with a titty or two would be nice to end the night. Not a whole lot of talent, but I just want to give props to one of my all time favs there who mainly works nights and at the door, Rosie. What a sexy gal and fun as hell in the VIP. If seniors haven't experienced her and need details PM me, or just stop in and give her a try.

D Dog


Sexhobbyist also recommends Rosie. Known her a long time. She always has a smile and terrific attitude. Enough said.
Sexhobbyist

[Kirstyforme]

Dont normally patronize the club in the night time, but I was on my way back into town and driving past so I thought a drink or two with a titty or two would be nice to end the night. Not a whole lot of talent, but I just want to give props to one of my all time favs there who mainly works nights and at the door, Rosie. What a sexy gal and fun as hell in the VIP. If seniors haven't experienced her and need details PM me, or just stop in and give her a try.

D Dog

I know SH has already given his recommendation but I would also like to say I've experienced Rosie's talents on multiple visits into the CS. She is very upbeat, sexy, and gives a great dance (table and especially VIP). Keeps me going back!

K4me

[Merlin Magician]

Damn! Everytime I go in Rosie is working the door I guess I never get there early enough to catch her on the floor.

[Sexhobbyist]

Cheryl Burke from that Dancing with the Stars show. Yep. Sexhobbyist recommends!

Sexhobbyist

[MyThicBrew]

Well I usually don't bother with the me too posts but in this case I've got to say me too! 8^)

Rosie is a real sweetheart! One of the gems in the club. She is very professional and very friendly at the same time. She always makes time to say hello and give me a hug even when one or the other is busy.

She doesn't disappoint in the VIP. She's honest. Discreet. Sexy. No drama. And she holds a good conversation and yet knows when not to talk too much too.

She is a special lady.

I also recommend her highly.

MythicBrew

[Kirstyforme]

Anyone see the news report on KOLD last night about the dancers that were kidnapped, held, and raped?

Any more to the story?

Here's a link to the story on KOLD's site:
http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=7201935&nav=menu86_2

[Sexhobbyist]

Anyone see the news report on KOLD last night about the dancers that were kidnapped, held, and raped?

Any more to the story?

Here's a link to the story on KOLD's site:
http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=7201935&nav=menu86_2

Wow. That's news to me. I haven't heard anything about it in the circles I travel in. None of the dancers I patronize have said anything. It will be interesting to find out some dancer names/clubs that these two miscreants abused.

Sexhobbyist

[TucGuy]

Anyone see the news report on KOLD last night about the dancers that were kidnapped, held, and raped?

Any more to the story?

Here's a link to the story on KOLD's site:
http://www.kold.com/Global/story.asp?S=7201935&nav=menu86_2

There are several stories with a bit more information if you google the defendants names. Also one has comments from readers and of course some POS said if you dont advertise you wont get burned. People suck.

[Tucson27]

Just to chip in. I made a brief stop at CS on Friday while waiting for a meeting.

Noticed a really cute dancer on the small stage, Went over to tip her. She said her name was Helen. Haven't heard of her before on this discussion.

Anyway, table dance lead to VIP. I had to leave after just a couple of dances.

However, IMHO, Helen is one of the most physically attractive dancers I've seen there (and that says a lot). Also, a really friendly attitude with no BS. Will look for her again.

[Sexhobbyist]

Some clubs allow their waitresses to do dances, some clubs don't.

Unusual events lately have made me the master of the strip club hit and run. I have two waitresses in two different clubs I've been servicing for a long time. We now have it down to a science. Both are married and don't want it known that we are playing around with each other. I've been hitting them both since way before they were married and we've continued all these years but only at their choice.

Here's the routine that we've perfected: Before work, one of the waitresses texts me with the word "skirt" which is code for me to bring my dick to the club at opening because she's wearing a skirt for easy access (and usually crotchless panties) and needs the treatment. I arrive at the club at opening. It's a good time because the DJ is distracted as well as the manager, bartender, etc. while they're still getting set up. Nobody's paying attention. I sit in a dark cozy part of the club and my waitress comes to me and straddles me as if she's greeting a long-time customer. We are both prepared. She's already wet and I'm hard with anticipation. My dick is out with my shirttail covering me up. All the while she's slipping me in and making her moves until she climaxes. It doesn't take long for her to cum because she's very orgasmic. She slides off and goes off to do her job. The whole thing takes a minute or two. No money changes hands. Suddenly I have free drinks at my table and she's in better shape to do her job. Nowadays I keep looking at my phone in the morning hoping I get a text message. (Which is another problem because too many dancers/waitresses/female pimps have my number, but that's a story for another occasion. Maybe it's a subject for part five of my Guide to Strip Clubs—dancer management.)

The other waitress, at a different club, calls me in the morning to let me know she needs me. When I go to the club, I'm minding my own business and watching her until gives me a signal that it's okay to meet her in the VIP. This means the coast is clear and we will probably be alone long enough to get it on. I hurry to the VIP. She follows me ostensibly to collect the VIP fee. Instead, she takes out my dick, sucks it until it's hard, mounts it, and gets her rocks off. Then she leaves. The whole thing happens in a blink of an eye. Again, no money changes hands and I get drinks. (Sex for drinks...does mean I loose my amateur status?) I'm being used as a sex toy by two waitresses. I don't mind, but it's put me in a different situation than what I'm used to.

Take care of your waitresses. You never know what it might lead to in the future.

Sexhobbyist

[Sexhobbyist]

Today I found myself at CS early in the day. Also in attendance was one of my fs dancers that I've neglected for the past several weeks because I've been busy with other fs events and dancers. She gave me some table dances to get me in the mood. When I was ready, we went to the VIP and had a terrific session. She climaxed a couple of times. Afterwards we were sitting around talking and catching up on our lives—just enjoying the afterglow. She wasn't in a hurry to leave and neither was I. About twenty minutes later in comes Amie with a customer and they sit in front of us. Amie dances for her customer in her usual way which is very sensual without being trashy or over the top. Watching her classic figure was turning me on and my dancer began stroking me while we were watching. (Amie, don't blush, you were just being your usual cute self.) My dancer asked me if she should run away or get back on. Needless to say, she climbed back on and we had a second session. Amie, you cost me, but it was fun. It was nice seeing you again.

Sexhobbyist

[Juicy Amie]

[QUOTE=Sexhobbyist]Today I found myself at CS early in the day. Also in attendance was one of my fs dancers that I've neglected for the past several weeks because I've been busy with other fs events and dancers. She gave me some table dances to get me in the mood. When I was ready, we went to the VIP and had a terrific session. She climaxed a couple of times. Afterwards we were sitting around talking and catching up on our lives—just enjoying the afterglow. She wasn't in a hurry to leave and neither was I. About twenty minutes later in comes Amie with a customer and they sit in front of us. Amie dances for her customer in her usual way which is very sensual without being trashy or over the top. Watching her classic figure was turning me on and my dancer began stroking me while we were watching. (Amie, don't blush, you were just being your usual cute self.) My dancer asked me if she should run away or get back on. Needless to say, she climbed back on and we had a second session. Amie, you cost me, but it was fun. It was nice seeing you again.

Sexhobbyist[/QUOT


Hey its not my fault you like watching, LOL Today was a good day.

[DrNick]

I went to td's west saturday for first time in a long while. As others have posted its much improved in quality of dancers. I didn't do any vip action but the floor dances were fairly good. I was not sure who might be vip worthy, and the one dancer i used to get action from is gone.

I also visited Curves few days back and it seems like a wast of time. Too crowded to get anything special, and way too much silicone.

[Dick North]

Haven't visited in awhile, but have been watching the reports. I've been getting a little curious about the 'goings-on' here. (please pardon the vernacular).
Sexhobbyist has apparently 'lit up the joint' with his explicit posts at the clubs.

SH, you and I have had a few friendly exchanges (and I realize that you also have been annointed by LL) and I do consider your information valuable, but do you ever consider some form of 'temperance' regarding the 'explicitness' of your posts?

Now, I realize that you have groomed a bevy of supporters who fawn over your every post and will undoubtedly come out in your defense, but I still maintain that we should submit our posts with some degree of discretion.
Perhaps when these guys lose their 'playground' and the opportunity to 'brag about their conquests' will they come to their senses.

Perhaps because you haven't been challenged in a while, has emboldened you to post the way you do lately.

Let me illustrate... Now, I am a middle aged-guy, fit, professional career, good looking, well educated and with a reasonable amount of discretionary dough to spend .... and I never come close to the experiences that you cite.
So what the hell is the difference? (rhetorical) ... I don't get it! (same)

Believe me, I have done the amps, strip clubs and streets for many years more than I would like to admit, so it troubles me greatly to hear of your sexual accomplishments that seem to escape the rest of us.

Explain please

Hey!, will always be a supporter and friend. Just venting a little today.

DN

[Sexhobbyist]

Haven't visited in awhile, but have been watching the reports. I've been getting a little curious about the 'goings-on' here. (please pardon the vernacular).
Sexhobbyist has apparently 'lit up the joint' with his explicit posts at the clubs.

SH, you and I have had a few friendly exchanges (and I realize that you also have been annointed by LL) and I do consider your information valuable, but do you ever consider some form of 'temperance' regarding the 'explicitness' of your posts?

Now, I realize that you have groomed a bevy of supporters who fawn over your every post and will undoubtedly come out in your defense, but I still maintain that we should submit our posts with some degree of discretion.
Perhaps when these guys lose their 'playground' and the opportunity to 'brag about their conquests' will they come to their senses.

Perhaps because you haven't been challenged in a while, has emboldened you to post the way you do lately.

Let me illustrate... Now, I am a middle aged-guy, fit, professional career, good looking, well educated and with a reasonable amount of discretionary dough to spend .... and I never come close to the experiences that you cite.
So what the hell is the difference? (rhetorical) ... I don't get it! (same)

Believe me, I have done the amps, strip clubs and streets for many years more than I would like to admit, so it troubles me greatly to hear of your sexual accomplishments that seem to escape the rest of us.

Explain please

Hey!, will always be a supporter and friend. Just venting a little today.

DN

DN,
You're calling me out. It's high noon. I like it. Check your PMs for a two-part message.

I am a dedicated, serious hobbyist who is in the clubs almost every day and I have decades of experience. I have a network of contacts (including my infamous female pimp) who provide information to me so that I can make the most of my daily dalliances. I don't mind sharing with fellow hobbyists.

There are several members of this forum who physically know me and who have witnessed my activities. It's not bragging if you can back it up. As such...

Using my experiences I provide information to others who might need help. I offer details via PM to seniors who make inquiry. In your case, I'll offer to take you around on a Tucson club tour and show you how it's done while pointing out some of the special "highlights" that you'll want to sample. I've done this for others who seem to have trouble making the clubs work for them.

As for the details of my posts...
I understand your concern, but I have a different opinion. I am providing only limited information in the posts. Details are supplied to seniors via PM. For instance, in the case of my recent post about the two waitresses, I never gave the club or waitresses' names. I think being explicit is okay as long as some critical details about who and where are omitted. I think the who is okay as along a critical details about what happened and where are omitted. I also think that where is okay as long as critical details about the who and what happened are omitted. Sometimes, even I slip up and combine two critical factors and divulge TMI. I know from feedback that fellow hobbyists use the information and are grateful for the assist.

I think it's an important service to forum members to know what's possible out there in mongering-land and to promote the hobby. Using my experiences, I let them know that they, too, can make it happen if they are dedicated enough. I'll ask rhetorically, what else is the forum for if not to provide useful information?

Here's why I don't worry so much about what gets posted on the Tucson forum—community standards. Tucson is run by permissive progressives, i.e., liberals who don't care what happens between consenting adults and who don't try to legislate morality. It appears that local political mentality will prevail for many years to come.

Another reason not to worry—everything I write is fiction. Even this post.

As for you and me...no problem.

Sexhobbyist

[Sexhobbyist]

DN,
I tried sending you PMs but got the message that you've exceeded your stored message quota and need to clear out messages before you can receive more.

Sexhobbyist

[Az Dude]

... it troubles me greatly to hear of your sexual accomplishments that seem to escape the rest of us.
Explain please

It's simple.. the dude is hung like a horse! :-)

[LoveLOS]

It's simple.. the dude is hung like a horse! :-)
ROTFLMAO!!! That may indeed be part of his rep and the source of much of SH's success, but SH has, thru his dedication to his personal hobby and a hell of a lot of cash expendature, created an environment in the Tucson strip clubs that benefits others beside himself. Any who have achieved success in this venue owe him great gratitude--at least buy a lap dance for him when you see him.

DN, Yes we have all gone round and round about the wisdom of loose lips. I guess I am guilty of generally being too graphic in my reports. OTOH, every locale has a different political and legal climate, so the same rules cannot apply on all forums. In this matter, SH has almost single dickedly created the Tucson Strip Club phenomenon, so it is his prerogative how he wants to share his findings. He has more to lose than any of us, which is why I have continually supported how he has conducted his reporting.

It occurs to me that this forum is the nearest thing to scientific peer review that prostitution has ever achieved!

Once a monger is known to a group of dancers as friendly, fun, polite, generous and safe to be alone with (and especially not a cop), only then will the dancer allow herself to cross the line. This past few days I found just how effective the hooker-net / stripper-net can be at processing information:

A month ago, I visited a rather infamous strip bar in NJ. BB and I managed to pull out a couple of hotties and fuck them soundly. Bench and I went back Mon to the same bar. My girl attacked me, jumping into my arms, straddling my waist with her legs and kissing me on the lips in the bar. Big display. Worked for me--I later had no trouble pulling out a couple of Puerto Rican girls--I was a known entity. That night, another bar, a friend of the Puerto Rican girl puts LL in her crosshairs. She knew my name, where I was from, who I dated, where we went, how much we paid, what we did, and how we like to party. BSR and I were the only two white guys in a hood strip bar, and we felt welcomed. I literally had my pick of 30 girls who wanted my attention and money and displayed no bad attitude.

All that rambling to say that yes, the success is attached to the monger, but when SH introduces you to one of his favorite dancers as one of his "special friends," your strip club life will change forever and you will open your own dossier in the stripper-net. So, how do you get SH to help you? I don't presume to answer for him because I especially don't want to make his life miserable helping a bunch of lazy pussyhounds get a bone; however, I think he has mentioned something about senior membership, a good strong positive posting/contribution history that would make him want to know who you are, and a thorough knowledge of the rules of engagement so you do not embarrass him with his girlfriends:
Sexhobbyist's guide to strip clubs, part 1: the dancers
Sexhobbyist's guide to strip clubs, part 2: the customers
Sexhobbyist's guide to strip clubs, part 3: advanced subjects

I believe SH and I both subscribe to the theory that if give a man a fish then he will eat for a day, but if you teach him to fish, he will eat for his lifetime.

103 days until fishing season.
LoveLOS

PS
DN, you of all people have long had the cred to hang with SH! Just do it! You will not have to again complain that you have not duplicated his success.

[Sexhobbyist]

After today, I'm more determined to retire as a monger. I'm getting too old for this. I started out with a fs threesome in one of the local VIP rooms followed by two other dancers who demanded my services. I had to leave a fifth dancer without satisfaction which really pissed her off. My antics were witnessed by a couple of forum members who, I hope, were taking notes. Our forum's resident classy dancer, Juicy Amie, came by and said 'hi' as well.

My third fs dancer was a surprise first timer that I couldn't pass up. She'd been toying with the idea of doing fs. Today while sitting in my lap and stroking me, she proclaimed that she wanted me to be her first club fuck after months of thinking about it. This woman gets very wet and she knows how to ride. I was very pleasantly surprised at how much I enjoyed it even after the threesome. She said the first time was gratis. She made me promise that we'd do it again.

My fourth fs dancer was a honey who had been waiting patiently all day for me and who was not happy that I had avoided her. It didn't take her long to get herself in the mood (Revenge? Hell hath no furry like a woman scorned?) and we had a very hot, passionate, electrifying session.

But I gotta tell ya...I'm wasted. I can barely walk. I was trying not to take a vitamin v (side-effects for me) and I succeeded but only because I had to bail on my fifth fs dancer. She was really pissed off. So was I because she fucks me for free. I suppose now she will play the "hurt feelings" card to make me feel guilty. That's okay. Make-up sex with her is out of this world.

DN, I wish you were there, too, to see it unfold. It was a clinic.

Sexhobbyist

[LoveLOS]

Hang in there brother, help is on its way!!!

[Pugilist]

sexhobbyist, I worked in the dancer racket for a long time, much longer than I really wanted to. I just gotta say...enough! either you're lying, or you have more money than brains. These experiences you often relate would cost guys like us a fortune.

[Kirstyforme]

sexhobbyist, I worked in the dancer racket for a long time, much longer than I really wanted to. I just gotta say...enough! either you're lying, or you have more money than brains. These experiences you often relate would cost guys like us a fortune.
I was one of the lucky ones to witness SH's Thursday activities. I must say that EVERYTHING he reported was balls on. I was even sitting next to him when his 'first timer' was sitting in his lap convincing him to be her first club f*ck. I also was lucky enough to witness the threesome in VIP first-hand. I don't think the three of them either remembered or cared they were in a club from the looks of things. Alas, I'm no newbie to the clubs but there's so much more to learn....

Here's another thing...I don't think there was a dancer in there that didn't know SH and from what I could tell some were dejected that they weren't getting his attention. Only so much bone to go around, I guess, lol...

As for my own adventure on Thursday - a great experience as well. Three of the hottest dances in VIP yet. Two with 'regular' dancers on my card (so I knew what I was getting) and the third a real pleasant suprise. Only the second time she had danced for me (with a few months in between) but we have teased each other several times in between. Well, she did the final teasing as she proceeded to give me everything this time around (yep, fs was mine yesterday as well SH!). I didn't leave quite as satiated as SH yesterday but I did leave quite happy and already looking forward to another outing with our resident club expert....
K4me

[Missing Sonora]

I'm looking forward to another trip to Tucson soon. I wasn't able to make it to the clubs this past time, but I'll be in town in November and plan on seeing what the clubs there have to offer. I'm not expecting the success of LOS and SH, but maybe one day I'll be able to experience this kind of thing.

[Weben]

sexhobbyist, I worked in the dancer racket for a long time, much longer than I really wanted to. I just gotta say...enough! either you're lying, or you have more money than brains. These experiences you often relate would cost guys like us a fortune.

If you don't believe what is said, then don't go to the clubs. Leaves a little more for us. Honestly, either some of these girls are really horny or they are such good actors, I can't tell the difference. Either way, doesn't bother me.

You must know by now that this hobby is not a cheap one. My problem is not the money, but the time. Do I work and generate the hundred plus an hour I charge, or do I take a morning off and visit a club.

SH, just leave a few horny for the rest of us. I really need to get back to Tucson soon to do my part.

[Sexhobbyist]

sexhobbyist, I worked in the dancer racket for a long time, much longer than I really wanted to. I just gotta say...enough! either you're lying, or you have more money than brains. These experiences you often relate would cost guys like us a fortune.

i have more disposable income than most. Yes, it would cost you mere mortals a fortune. But, sometimes it's not about the money. However, it IS all about three things (not necessarily in this order): money, the dick, personality. If you've got two of the three, you should do well. No matter how horny or not your dancer is, if you've got two of the three requisites, you'll have a good time. Add to that formula a horny dancer and you've struck gold.

Sexhobbyist

[Sexhobbyist]

Here's another thing...I don't think there was a dancer in there that didn't know SH and from what I could tell some were dejected that they weren't getting his attention. Only so much bone to go around, I guess, lol...

As for my own adventure on Thursday - a great experience as well. Three of the hottest dances in VIP yet. Two with 'regular' dancers on my card (so I knew what I was getting) and the third a real pleasant suprise. Only the second time she had danced for me (with a few months in between) but we have teased each other several times in between. Well, she did the final teasing as she proceeded to give me everything this time around (yep, fs was mine yesterday as well SH!). I didn't leave quite as satiated as SH yesterday but I did leave quite happy and already looking forward to another outing with our resident club expert....
K4me

I've worked hard establishing relationships with many, many dancers in this town over the years. It pays off in time. And yes, there's only so much bone to go around so I'm happy others are helping. LOL!

So glad to hear of your conquest. I was watching you in the VIP and could see that you had your hands full, so to speak, with a real honey. Lessons learned, Grasshopper.

Sexhobbyist

[Sexhobbyist]

SH, just leave a few horny for the rest of us. I really need to get back to Tucson soon to do my part.

Plenty of horny dancers await. So many to do and so little time...alas.

Incidently, there are four clubs now with suitable activity (according to my standards) so don't think you have to stick to one venue. There's lots of action in the clubs and lots of attractive ladies with the right attitude to entertain you.

Sexhobbyist