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You guys crack me up.
I agree, who the F complains about cabana noise!
It's good info in the moment and helps the mood. Especially if you have a dancer on your lap.
I'm happy to see Paris back and did not have time to play but caught up and got some dances from her and Kash the other day.
Look forward to playtime again with those two.
Tried dances with a couple of Curves girls dancing at Venom now, Sasha and Envy.
Sasha is a petite spinner with no tits but sweet pierced nipples. She claims no cabana play but gives a floor dance and gets turned on on the floor.
Envy is a cut blonde with nice bolt ons and a firm ass who gets seriously wet and lets you roam discretely on the floor.
Saw Alex and caught up and she always promises cabana play but I'm still unsure what would really be delivered based on reports here.
Hit east and though the girls are hot, the action is not so I did not spend much time there.
The Boat's been crowded my last two visits and did some dances with sativa, who offered otc.
Sorry I have no exciting news to share but it was nice to be out again.
Play on gentlemen!
Stripper Luv
11-29-18, 21:52
Someone is a massive douche bag to complain about too much noise coming from a cabana. Like they haven't fucked someone in there.The noise coming from Paris' cabana visits were caught by the management. The customers weren't complaining about that. Paris being caught doing it in the bathroom simply adds to her admirable reputation. Being caught leaving the cabana without wearing her bottoms has a bit of a "Cool Hand Luke" attitude.
Long shot but a while back I met this lady at Venom I think her name was Lisset or Lizet. Beautiful Hispanic girl about 5'7 smooth soft brown skin with some tatts. She provided the greatest time in the Cabanas for about 20 a song. She was slim with some meat in the right places and she liked taking a shot of tequila inside the cabana. Also if all went well inside the cabana she would exchange numbers and offer on for about 3 bills seems like a lot but believe me you just knew it was going to be worth it. Anyone have any info on her or know if she is still around?
Does anyone remember a dancer, that worked there 4 or so years ago? AA dancer, thick and about 5'6 or so. Didn't play a lot inside the club, but otc. Wondering if she was still around or if anyone has her current #. I have an old # and email address. If you want to PM me I have additional info if it'd help.
Any info on a thick Asian dancer by the name of Yoshiko. I just though she was server. But the other day, she was dancing. Anybody got info?
EbonyLvver
11-30-18, 18:59
Long shot but a while back I met this lady at Venom I think her name was Lisset or Lizet. Beautiful Hispanic girl about 5'7 smooth soft brown skin with some tatts. If someone responds let me know. I gave up looking for her about 10 months ago haha. One a side note: the talent has really gone up at Venom. I had a good time with a petite AA dancer named Tiny.
TheLadysMan
12-01-18, 16:51
If someone responds let me know. I gave up looking for her about 10 months ago haha. One a side note: the talent has really gone up at Venom. I had a good time with a petite AA dancer named Tiny.It's been a month or two but lisette was last working at tde.
TheLadysMan
12-01-18, 16:52
Any info on a thick Asian dancer by the name of Yoshiko. I just though she was server. But the other day, she was dancing. Anybody got info?The bartenders and waitresses occasionally get on the stage at tde but haven't partaken of any dances from her.
TheLadysMan
12-01-18, 16:55
The noise coming from Paris' cabana visits were caught by the management. The customers weren't complaining about that. Paris being caught doing it in the bathroom simply adds to her admirable reputation. Being caught leaving the cabana without wearing her bottoms has a bit of a "Cool Hand Luke" attitude.She must have been screaming like a banshee to be heard over the music. You are killing me with the cool hand Luke reference. "My Paris can eat a hundred cocks".
TheLadysMan
12-01-18, 16:57
I was with Paris yesterday around 2. She said she was suspended but needed time off anyway.
Which one of you pervs was sitting outside the last cabana yesterday? Saw someone on his phone looking at usasg when I was walking out with Paris.
Anyway, normal pricing for cabana trips. Girls will ask for $$ but negotiable. Yesterday's damage was $. 5 + dj fee.Many a dancer here will set you up for a bill or less. You can do better keep trying LOL.
TheLadysMan
12-01-18, 17:00
To use Stripper Luv's verbage, she knows how to ride in the Cabanas.Damn SL you have sited as a bibliographic reference. You should copyright these phrases.
TexasMonger
12-02-18, 11:29
Damn SL you have sited as a bibliographic reference. You should copyright these phrases.We should make a rating list for cabana riders and how they rate on a scale of 1-10.
Care to start it??
Cheers.
TM.
We should make a rating list for cabana riders and how they rate on a scale of 1-10.
Care to start it??
Cheers.
TM.I'm in. Obviously, total nude, BBBJ with BBFS rates 10.
Stripper Luv
12-02-18, 17:01
We should make a rating list for cabana riders and how they rate on a scale of 1-10.
Care to start it??
Cheers.
TM.That might be kind of subjective. What may be a 5 for me could be a 10 for someone else.
I'm in. Obviously, total nude, BBBJ with BBFS rates 10.And everyone else is a 1. LOL.
I'm in. Obviously, total nude, BBBJ with BBFS rates 10.Coco I would say is 8 to 8 1/2 she Fill all the requirements to be a 10 but face is just a bit ruff not ugly just ruff. Great body though.
That might be kind of subjective. What may be a 5 for me could be a 10 for someone else.That's the beauty of it, we all have different opinions and likes that's what makes us unique. While we may rate a provider a higher number that does not mean that she could not provide a bad service due to bad day to someone. But that's just a roll of the dice 🎲.
TexasMonger
12-03-18, 11:44
That might be kind of subjective. What may be a 5 for me could be a 10 for someone else.All are good points how about this for ratings. One point for each item.
Provides OTC.
Provides BBBJ.
Provides BBFS.
Provides CIM.
Provides CIP.
Provides Greek.
Provides COF.
Provides COT.
Provides Cabana rate 150 or less.
Not a clock watcher.
So example. Take the list and keep rating of each to yourself to protect the innocent (LOL).
So if you are thinking of Kash as an example and only an example, and you have rated her a 1 on 8 of the items in the list (we do not need to know which 8) then say Kash is an 8 and that is it.
How is that for a change? Does not involve beauty, or how she makes you feel, it is strictly service related. Either she does or she doesn't -.
Cheers.
TM.
Stripper Luv
12-03-18, 21:14
All are good points how about this for ratings. One point for each item.
Provides OTC.
Provides BBBJ.
Provides BBFS.
Provides CIM.
Provides CIP.
Provides Greek.
Provides COF.
Provides COT.
Provides Cabana rate 150 or less.
Not a clock watcher.
So example. Take the list and keep rating of each to yourself to protect the innocent (LOL).
So if you are thinking of Kash as an example and only an example, and you have rated her a 1 on 8 of the items in the list (we do not need to know which 8) then say Kash is an 8 and that is it.
How is that for a change? Does not involve beauty, or how she makes you feel, it is strictly service related. Either she does or she doesn't -.
Cheers.
TM.That's a good start but here's a couple others: provides analingus (I'm personally familiar with a few who do) and provides DFK.
Member #5842
12-04-18, 02:36
All are good points how about this for ratings. One point for each item.
Provides OTC.
Provides BBBJ.
Provides BBFS.
Provides CIM.
Provides CIP.
Provides Greek.
Provides COF.
Provides COT.
Provides Cabana rate 150 or less.
Not a clock watcher.
So example. Take the list and keep rating of each to yourself to protect the innocent (LOL).
So if you are thinking of Kash as an example and only an example, and you have rated her a 1 on 8 of the items in the list (we do not need to know which 8) then say Kash is an 8 and that is it.
How is that for a change? Does not involve beauty, or how she makes you feel, it is strictly service related. Either she does or she doesn't -.
Cheers.
TM.Ok. Foxy is a 10/10.
TexasMonger
12-04-18, 10:33
No it is 13 out of 13 for top performer.
Provides OTC.
Provides BBBJ.
Provides BBFS.
Provides CIM.
Provides CIP.
Provides Greek.
Provides COF.
Provides COT.
Provides DATY.
Provides DATO (Ass licking for the ones who do not know).
DFK.
Provides Cabana rate 150 or less.
Not a clock watcher.
Cheers.
TM.
Hit up raiders on an afternoon this week. There were plenty of attractive ladies to pick from. I didn't have a lot of time but got a few dances to feel the girls out. Carolina pretty handsy on the floor with promises of a better dance off the floor. The other was hazel very handsy and dirty talker wanted to do all kinds of things in the champagne. The one that intrigued me the most was a dancer called Gwen. She was very attractive and gave a great floor dance. I didn't get to talk to her much and if any of you guys have any info you are willing to share feel free to send it. Thanks.
Tuesday night at the boat. Ran into eclipse. Had met her about 3 weeks ago. She is a natural dark-haired Beauty with a spinner body. Great personality. Two trips to the Champagne Room. She wants to make sure that you are fully satisfied. Great oral skills. More options on the menu are likely available. Both visits I left with a smile on my face. Highly recommended!.
One problem I see with the suggested rating system is that, most likely, all of the services which are used to rate the dancer are not going to occur on the first or possibly even the second Cabana visit. Therefore, I suggest that the rating include an introductory statement specifying the number of Cabana Adventures you have had with the dancer. For example, you could say something like "based on one visit to the Cabana with Jane, she met 5 out of the 13 criteria but I believe more is available."
TexasMonger
12-05-18, 09:28
One problem I see with the suggested rating system is that, most likely, all of the services which are used to rate the dancer are not going to occur on the first or possibly even the second Cabana visit. Therefore, I suggest that the rating include an introductory statement specifying the number of Cabana Adventures you have had with the dancer. For example, you could say something like "based on one visit to the Cabana with Jane, she met 5 out of the 13 criteria but I believe more is available."Perfect. But also note that there are many veterans here who are regulars at the SC (s) and have seen a single dancer multiple times.
Cheers.
TM.
Perfect. But also note that there are many veterans here who are regulars at the SC (s) and have seen a single dancer multiple times.
Cheers.
TM.Yes. Without a doubt, the ratings from the veterans would be the most comprehensive and most informative. The girl gets a point for BBFS but nothing for CFS. I think it would be important to know the CFS providers. Sometimes it was a CFS at the insistence of the customer and not the dancer. The dancer may actually be willing to go BB. Just a thought. I'd like to know the FS providers and go from there.
Stopped by V the other day. Pretty quiet but did chat a bit w an older Hispanic gal Monica. Brand new bolt ons I. E. Hard. Couple of floor dances seemed promising. Anyone seen her Cabana action?
At Venom. The most unbelievably unattractive dancers I have ever seen! I counted 12 dancers and nine of them were, to be polite, overweight. In clinical terms they would be described as obese. There were even less customers than dancers. How does this club stay in business? I have been visiting this club every time I come to Tucson since the end of 2015. Prior to September of this year I have always found girls there to be attractive with pretty decent bodies. For some reason, all of this has changed. I keep going back because it's hard to pass up the opportunity to have so much privacy in the Cabanas. No other club in Tucson offers that unfortunately. I know curves has the Players Lounge and the boat is going to have something similar to The Players Lounge, however, this does not have the same degree of privacy as the Cabanas. Why is this club not attracting better girls? It seems the only nights that have the potential to have decent looking dancers are Friday night and Saturday night but even that is hit and miss. Guess I won't return until Friday.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-06-18, 03:59
Yes. Without a doubt, the ratings from the veterans would be the most comprehensive and most informative. The girl gets a point for BBFS but nothing for CFS. I think it would be important to know the CFS providers. Sometimes it was a CFS at the insistence of the customer and not the dancer. The dancer may actually be willing to go BB. Just a thought. I'd like to know the FS providers and go from there.Not sure I'd list the bb girls as Superior to cfs. The volume is just too high and in the moment its hard to say no. I'd rather they all went cfs and just made occasional exceptions for trusted regulars.
PoopSnicker
12-06-18, 13:38
Stopped by V the other day. Pretty quiet but did chat a bit w an older Hispanic gal Monica. Brand new bolt ons I. E. Hard. Couple of floor dances seemed promising. Anyone seen her Cabana action?Funny you ask. We did a cabana visit on Tuesday. She is a sweet lady. We zookled and DFK. She does play.
Stripper Luv
12-06-18, 20:28
No it is 13 out of 13 for top performer.
Provides OTC.
Provides BBBJ.
Provides BBFS.
Provides CIM.
Provides CIP.
Provides Greek.
Provides COF.
Provides COT.
Provides DATY.
Provides DATO (Ass licking for the ones who do not know).
DFK.
Provides Cabana rate 150 or less.
Not a clock watcher.
Cheers.
TM.Based on today's experience, I recommend adding fiv, swallows, and HJ.
TheLadysMan
12-07-18, 01:32
At Venom. The most unbelievably unattractive dancers I have ever seen! I counted 12 dancers and nine of them were, to be polite, overweight. In clinical terms they would be described as obese. There were even less customers than dancers. How does this club stay in business? I have been visiting this club every time I come to Tucson since the end of 2015. Prior to September of this year I have always found girls there to be attractive with pretty decent bodies. For some reason, all of this has changed. I keep going back because it's hard to pass up the opportunity to have so much privacy in the Cabanas. No other club in Tucson offers that unfortunately. I know curves has the Players Lounge and the boat is going to have something similar to The Players Lounge, however, this does not have the same degree of privacy as the Cabanas. Why is this club not attracting better girls? It seems the only nights that have the potential to have decent looking dancers are Friday night and Saturday night but even that is hit and miss. Guess I won't return until Friday.So what is the deal with the playerz lounge at curved anyway?
I'm intrigued by the postings about Star. I'm wondering if I ever saw her at Venom. What time does she usually work at Tens?
Stripper Luv
12-07-18, 10:15
Funny you ask. We did a cabana visit on Tuesday. She is a sweet lady. We zookled and DFK. She does play.What is "zookled"?
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-07-18, 14:13
I'm intrigued by the postings about Star. I'm wondering if I ever saw her at Venom. What time does she usually work at Tens?Long brown hair, 20's, b cups, she was a little heavier at v but she's lost some last I saw her. She's got pretty eyes, almost looks like she's about to tear up.
I've seen her in the afternoon wherever she is.
TheLadysMan
12-07-18, 14:13
The weather is so shitty it seems the only option left for the day is to go to the clubs and get warmed up by some sexy ladies.
So what is the deal with the playerz lounge at curved anyway?At Curves, the players lounge is a room with 3 booths. You pay the club 100 for 30 min then negotiate with the dancer for her donation. There are no cameras and no. Staff interruption. Not worth it. They are not private. There are no curtains and to get to the last booth in the room you walk past the 2 other booths which are open for all to see. Not a problem if you get the last booth but not good for booths 1 and 2 if you and your dancer are really connecting. Champagne Room is a better deal IMO.
Based on today's experience, I recommend adding fiv, swallows, and HJ.I agree with adding these to the rating scale. Not sure we need to include provides OTC. I have had some outstanding cabanas with girls that won't do OTC for whatever reason (married? Can't get a babysitter? Concern about safety? Providing OTC really doesn't affect their performance in the cabana.
Stripper Luv
12-07-18, 20:57
Lots of dancers. Some of them actually decent looking. Got dances from Beautiful who is back at Venom. She has to be one of the best looking and sexiest women in all of stripperhood. Got cabana from Monica who can ride. It was a good Friday.
TheLadysMan
12-07-18, 23:18
Lots of dancers. Some of them actually decent looking. Got dances from Beautiful who is back at Venom. She has to be one of the best looking and sexiest women in all of stripperhood. Got cabana from Monica who can ride. It was a good Friday.But did you zookle?
Gilligan46
12-08-18, 09:46
At Venom. The most unbelievably unattractive dancers I have ever seen! I counted 12 dancers and nine of them were, to be polite, overweight. In clinical terms they would be described as obese. There were even less customers than dancers. How does this club stay in business? I have been visiting this club every time I come to Tucson since the end of 2015. Prior to September of this year I have always found girls there to be attractive with pretty decent bodies. For some reason, all of this has changed. I keep going back because it's hard to pass up the opportunity to have so much privacy in the Cabanas. No other club in Tucson offers that unfortunately. I know curves has the Players Lounge and the boat is going to have something similar to The Players Lounge, however, this does not have the same degree of privacy as the Cabanas. Why is this club not attracting better girls? It seems the only nights that have the potential to have decent looking dancers are Friday night and Saturday night but even that is hit and miss. Guess I won't return until Friday.Don't ever call them fat hogs. You will get severely punished.
TexasMonger
12-08-18, 13:32
The weather is so shitty it seems the only option left for the day is to go to the clubs and get warmed up by some sexy ladies.Hmmmm that is a good thing.
Cheers.
TM.
Stripper Luv
12-09-18, 12:52
I agree with adding these to the rating scale. Not sure we need to include provides OTC. I have had some outstanding cabanas with girls that won't do OTC for whatever reason (married? Can't get a babysitter? Concern about safety? Providing OTC really doesn't affect their performance in the cabana.I agree. We are rating club behavior. OTC is a whole different ball game and is unrelated to club behavior. At the club, all you could do is ask if she provides the service. She may not want to give up that information to a new customer or she may lie about it. There should be a different rating system for otc. There should be an "other" category in the ratings where things like otc, HJ, fiv, and swallows can be included.
Tecolote32
12-09-18, 13:33
Anyone have any cabana experience with her? Medium height brunette white girl, lots of tats, beautiful thick dsl's, huge natural tits and thick legs.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-10-18, 01:06
Arrived at 5 and it was kinda lively but quickly died. Lots of girls I don't recognize.
TheLadysMan
12-10-18, 01:50
Arrived at 5 and it was kinda lively but quickly died. Lots of girls I don't recognize.Was sure dead there between 1 and 230. All kinds of unknown talent. Almost all of them parked at a table drinking.
SomeRandomGuy0
12-10-18, 23:39
It has been awhile since I have been to the strip club. Damn I think the last time was back in 09 and it was at TENS. Anyways thought I would head to Venom this weekend since I have some time off work and it seems that club is very popular in this thread. The Cabanas at Venom has my interest. Only thing I want to know is what the damage usually is for the extras in the cabanas and what the fee is or how much time you get in there. From the forum I see 30 minutes correct? If you guys could let me know I would appreciate it thanks. Also what strippers would you all recommend at Venom?
It has been awhile since I have been to the strip club. Damn I think the last time was back in 09 and it was at TENS. Anyways thought I would head to Venom this weekend since I have some time off work and it seems that club is very popular in this thread. The Cabanas at Venom has my interest. Only thing I want to know is what the damage usually is for the extras in the cabanas and what the fee is or how much time you get in there. From the forum I see 30 minutes correct? If you guys could let me know I would appreciate it thanks. Also what strippers would you all recommend at Venom?Those are the same questions uncle LEO would ask. As a nebie, you apparently have read enough posts to have that info. Go to the club. Experience the cabanas and report back.
What is "zookled"?I don't think we ever got a definition for this word!
PoopSnicker
12-14-18, 10:35
I don't think we ever got a definition for this word!Humpy Pumpy.
Stripper Luv
12-14-18, 19:45
Have you ever been in venom's cabanas and the blow job was so bad you stood up, dropped a 20 on the chair and asked out?
Stripper Luv
12-15-18, 00:47
Have you ever been in venom's cabanas and the blow job was so bad you stood up, dropped a 20 on the chair and asked out?That should be "walked out".
That should be "walked out".ł.
How does a BJ turns so bad that you had to stop? Were teeth involved? What made you want to stop?
Stripper Luv
12-15-18, 10:47
ł.
How does a BJ turns so bad that you had to stop? Were teeth involved? What made you want to stop?Yes there was teeth. She thought biting the head was what constituted good BJ skills.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-15-18, 14:04
Yes there was teeth. She thought biting the head was what constituted good BJ skills.Who was it? That could be a bad day.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-15-18, 21:14
4-5 pm. Dead 5 customers in population. Rachel, channel, Becca, million, foxy and Kash were present. No fun was had by me but Kash made a trip before I left.
Yes there was teeth. She thought biting the head was what constituted good BJ skills.OMG! That's just too funny 😂 why would someone think that bitting is part of the service. And I am sorry, I am not laughing at your displeasure is just that is just too funny. If you could provide some information on the piranha it would be greatly appreciated it.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-15-18, 23:53
9 pm. Not just low enthusiasm, negative enthusiasm. I feel drained just having a beer.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-16-18, 01:33
Got worse later. Met lelani, not a Cabana girl.
Member #5842
12-16-18, 03:02
I am also interested in knowing who the piranha was. LOL.
4-5 pm. Dead 5 customers in population. Rachel, channel, Becca, million, foxy and Kash were present. No fun was had by me but Kash made a trip before I left.The last 5 times that I was in venom, it was sooo bad, I just have no desire to ever go back. And curves is full of hustlers. Table dance, no touching. Touching in the back for 25 bucks a dance. I told to just move along.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-16-18, 13:51
The last 5 times that I was in venom, it was sooo bad, I just have no desire to ever go back. And curves is full of hustlers. Table dance, no touching. Touching in the back for 25 bucks a dance. I told to just move along.I tried curves later. No I know why I rarely hear about it on here. Everything was overpriced and disappointing.
Stripper Luv
12-16-18, 18:12
Today is ethnic day at venom including a fresh new tiny young thing from Boston. She's just moved here so you'll be seeing her.
Stripper Luv
12-16-18, 19:14
The previous tiny little thing at Venom is Jade. Als, Gorgeous, another new dancer who just moved to Tucson, has my highest cabana recommendation.
Hit Venom Friday night while I was waiting for dancer from different club to finish working so we could meet up. Again, very poor group of dancers. First time I have seen Paris since her hiatus. She was very rude to me which was a shame because I have always treated her well. No dances or cabanas to report on. Lots of customers but never saw a cabana in use. Saturday night hit the Boat. Lots of customers. I thought talent was only fair for a Saturday night. 2 of my favorite spinners were there; Austin and Charlotte. If spinners are your thing, check these 2 out! No extras in the CR but it is so hot to have your hands on these tiny, hard bodies. Another one to check out is XO. She allows a little more exploring in CR. Kenzie was there. Not a spinner by any means but allows exploring and, couldn't really tell, but one night looked like she was giving a guy head. There was an interesting girl named Carmen. Latina, enhanced, and wore glasses. Any info on her? Was warned dancer named Lanna is a ROB. Promises OTC if you pay her house fee and tip out then disappears.
Hit a couple of clubs over the past 2 weeks with mixed results.
Curves, as usual, sucked. Got a drink and sat there for 40 minutes and never had a dancer even slide by and say hi.
TD's east similar deal for 30 minutes but then a hot blonde. Sorry I don't recall her name, came by and suckered me into the VIP room with many promises.
Very hot dances and a little FIV and brief DATY but nothing to write home about. Dropped 1+VIP fee.
The Boat was fun but again not a lot of attention, other than some big girls, for a good 30 minutes. Eventually got dances with diamond and ended up in champagne with a nice BBBJ and covered FS. Total dance damages 2.
Venom had a couple of fun cabana visits with jamaica and curves transplant that goes by vicki, senior members can pm me for more info.
Also played on the floor with a hot blonde, from curves, goes by envy there. She gave great floor dances and was happy to be teased. Ran my hand under her thong and slipped 3 fiv for 3 songs until she came hard and let her grind on me for two more before repeating the floor activity. Unfortunately I had to leave so I don't know what she'd be like in the cabana.
Got dances from kash and paris with lots of floor play but again did not have the time or funds to hit the cabanas.
It was nice to get back out on the playground again.
As money and time permit I look forward to dipping the stick some more.
Interesting thing at the boat Sunday. A very slim dancer was on stage. Though slim, had a very nice ass and perfect perky titties. I I tipped her a few. When she came around after her stage dances, I was busy with another dancer. So she started a dance with my buddy. 10 seconds into the dance she was yelling at my friend. It appears that he put a hand on her butt and she did not like that. He gave her 5 bucks just to go away. A few minutes later a bouncer came over to talk to my friend. The dancer complained to management that my friend tried to "FEEL HER UP'. Well. Golly gee. She works in a freakin strip club in Tucson. What the heck does she expect. The bouncer of course treated my friend with the courtesy a customer would expect and told him he would just tell the dancer to stay away from him / I think she will not have a financially rewarding career as a stripper. LOL.
SuckItAgain
12-17-18, 21:19
Interesting thing at the boat Sunday. A very slim dancer was on stage. Though slim, had a very nice ass and perfect perky titties. I I tipped her a few. When she came around after her stage dances, I was busy with another dancer. So she started a dance with my buddy. 10 seconds into the dance she was yelling at my friend. It appears that he put a hand on her butt and she did not like that. He gave her 5 bucks just to go away. A few minutes later a bouncer came over to talk to my friend. The dancer complained to management that my friend tried to "FEEL HER UP'. Well. Golly gee. She works in a freakin strip club in Tucson. What the heck does she expect. The bouncer of course treated my friend with the courtesy a customer would expect and told him he would just tell the dancer to stay away from him / I think she will not have a financially rewarding career as a stripper. LOL.Would you happen to know her name, or a more detailed description of her? I was with a few friends there as well. But our time was early evening. She probably won't have any problems being touched it grabbed at. 2 or. 3 in champagne. I just don't like when I see them get crazy on the floor. There's way to do it a bit more tactfully and for her not to make a scene. If I would have seen her get crazy I would definitely stay away too. That sucks. We both know that there are plenty that will play. More fun to be had by others door sure.
TexasMonger
12-18-18, 11:03
Interesting thing at the boat Sunday. A very slim dancer was on stage. Though slim, had a very nice ass and perfect perky titties. I I tipped her a few. When she came around after her stage dances, I was busy with another dancer. So she started a dance with my buddy. 10 seconds into the dance she was yelling at my friend. It appears that he put a hand on her butt and she did not like that. He gave her 5 bucks just to go away. A few minutes later a bouncer came over to talk to my friend. The dancer complained to management that my friend tried to "FEEL HER UP'. Well. Golly gee. She works in a freakin strip club in Tucson. What the heck does she expect. The bouncer of course treated my friend with the courtesy a customer would expect and told him he would just tell the dancer to stay away from him / I think she will not have a financially rewarding career as a stripper. LOL.Heheheheeh funny as hell. She will appreciate the feeling up at the boat when she ends up walking 6th for funds.
Cheers.
TM.
SmokeShopJoe
12-18-18, 15:59
Interesting thing at the boat Sunday. A very slim dancer was on stage. Though slim, had a very nice ass and perfect perky titties. I I tipped her a few. When she came around after her stage dances, I was busy with another dancer. So she started a dance with my buddy. 10 seconds into the dance she was yelling at my friend. It appears that he put a hand on her butt and she did not like that. He gave her 5 bucks just to go away. A few minutes later a bouncer came over to talk to my friend. The dancer complained to management that my friend tried to "FEEL HER UP'. Well. Golly gee. She works in a freakin strip club in Tucson. What the heck does she expect. The bouncer of course treated my friend with the courtesy a customer would expect and told him he would just tell the dancer to stay away from him / I think she will not have a financially rewarding career as a stripper. LOL.And that is why when a dancer asks if I would like a dance I will always start with Do you have any do's and don't's during a dance and then warn them that I will get a bit handsy. THEN I ask them what their dance prices are. Every so often you will find a lady who is very honest and give you all the pricing right away. Also you will get a strong reaction from the ones who don't want to be touched by you as they will either tell you a huge list of nopes, ask a stupid price per dance, tell you that its cool but not on the floor, or they will do air dances a foot or two away.
I also almost always wait until I see a dancer giving a dance to someone before I will get one from her, especially in places where you can find a mix of don't touch me girls and anything for a dollar girls. I look to see how they react to the patron, if the patron is doing any of the typical things you do to try to indicate you are looking for more, any of the tell tale things that she is offering more, any of the looks of what am I doing with my life I want to get out of here. I have dodged many a bullets doing this and saved a lot of time and money getting right to the chase doing this too.
All that said sometimes you just have to TOFTT.
I keep trying and hoping I will go into venom az nd see some attractive talent. I went in about 1:00 today and thought I was at a cattle auction. I left before the non existent waitress could take my drink order.
I thought I would try going to the boat earlier in the evening. I usually don't get there till almost 11 pm. Tonight I got there about 6:15. I wish I had read the reports on Unique more recently so they would have been fresh in my memory. It's been a while since I read reports on her. All I can say is stay away! She's very assertive. She told me after her stage she was going to take me to the champagne room so we could have nasty fun. She was very annoying. I finally agreed on 2 Champagne Room dances just to get rid of her because I only have $40 left. After 2 of the worst Champagne Room dances ever she wouldn't get off of my lap. I literally had to shove her off my lap. It took so long to get her off my lap that another dance was counted. I had to go to the ATM and withdraw cash to pay her another $20. This woman needs to be fired! I don't know if anyone from the boat ever reads these reports or if anyone reading this report knows somebody in power at the boat but something really needs to be done about her!
TheLadysMan
12-21-18, 10:57
I thought I would try going to the boat earlier in the evening. I usually don't get there till almost 11 pm. Tonight I got there about 6:15. I wish I had read the reports on Unique more recently so they would have been fresh in my memory. It's been a while since I read reports on her. All I can say is stay away! She's very assertive. She told me after her stage she was going to take me to the champagne room so we could have nasty fun. She was very annoying. I finally agreed on 2 Champagne Room dances just to get rid of her because I only have $40 left. After 2 of the worst Champagne Room dances ever she wouldn't get off of my lap. I literally had to shove her off my lap. It took so long to get her off my lap that another dance was counted. I had to go to the ATM and withdraw cash to pay her another $20. This woman needs to be fired! I don't know if anyone from the boat ever reads these reports or if anyone reading this report knows somebody in power at the boat but something really needs to be done about her!Not to quibble but is it a rob if you agreed to the dances? Any way couldn't agree more about this unattractive psycho girl. The funniest part I find is she must be high all the time as week after week she tells me she is German. We and by we I mean I speak German to her (I spent 8 years in Germany growing up and four more as an adult) and she doesn't have a clue what I'm saying. Yet a week later she does the same thing all over again not remembering me catching her in this lie and embarrassing her.
Gwen on other hand should be sampled by all serious lovers of big tits and bjs.
Stripper Luv
12-21-18, 11:11
Arrived at Venom about 3:30. There were plenty of dancers—even some decent ones. The ones I came to see were busy in the cabanas. There were a couple of others who looked promising but they were talking to customers. So I left and went to Raiders. When I arrived there were nine dancers sitting at tables talking. Of those dancers who were circulating, I struggled to find one without a flat chest. Then "The Unique" came by. I knew better than to acknowledge her presence but she was aggressively relentless. I told her I was waiting for someone. She wanted to know who. I pointed to a random dancer on stage who I didn't know. She made me promise to get dances from her as soon as I was done with the dancer on stage. Finally she left. I never got dances from that dancer on stage so after a while she came back and said I promised to get dances from her. I grabbed another dancer by the arm who was walking by and headed to the Champagne Room. I had no idea who she was or her CR worthiness but I wanted to get away from Unique. It turns out the dancer I ushered into the CR (without her objecting) was Karen. Relatively decent looking with the first pair of actual tits I saw all day at Raiders. She played and gave a respectable HJ. When I left the CR, I walked out of the club for fear of Unique stalking me.
Not to quibble but is it a rob if you agreed to the dances? Any way couldn't agree more about this unattractive psycho girl. The funniest part I find is she must be high all the time as week after week she tells me she is German. We and by we I mean I speak German to her (I spent 8 years in Germany growing up and four more as an adult) and she doesn't have a clue what I'm saying. Yet a week later she does the same thing all over again not remembering me catching her in this lie and embarrassing her.
Gwen on other hand should be sampled by all serious lovers of big tits and bjs.I understand what you're saying. I did agree to two dances. I guess the ROB problem is that she wouldn't get off my lap and I ended up having to pay for an extra song that she really didn't deserve. I literally had to shove her off my lap. If a police officer saw that I probably would have gotten arrested for assault and battery!
Arrived at Venom about 3:30. There were plenty of dancerseven some decent ones. The ones I came to see were busy in the cabanas. There were a couple of others who looked promising but they were talking to customers. So I left and went to Raiders. When I arrived there were nine dancers sitting at tables talking. Of those dancers who were circulating, I struggled to find one without a flat chest. Then "The Unique" came by. I knew better than to acknowledge her presence but she was aggressively relentless. I told her I was waiting for someone. She wanted to know who. I pointed to a random dancer on stage who I didn't know. She made me promise to get dances from her as soon as I was done with the dancer on stage. Finally she left. I never got dances from that dancer on stage so after a while she came back and said I promised to get dances from her. I grabbed another dancer by the arm who was walking by and headed to the Champagne Room. I had no idea who she was or her CR worthiness but I wanted to get away from Unique. It turns out the dancer I ushered into the CR (without her objecting) was Karen. Relatively decent looking with the first pair of actual tits I saw all day at Raiders. She played and gave a respectable HJ. When I left the CR, I walked out of the club for fear of Unique stalking me.Unique does AIR dances. I tried her once and that is enough. She does not bother me any more because she knows it is a waste of time for her. A simple no is sufficient. Now Karen is a whole different thing. She is a fun sweet girl with natural suc able titties, and a great a $$. And smile although I would not want it to get any bigger. I just wish she would do otc. She said she does not. Oh, and by the way my preferred answer when a gal asks WHO I am waiting for is " not you".
Not to quibble but is it a rob if you agreed to the dances? Any way couldn't agree more about this unattractive psycho girl. The funniest part I find is she must be high all the time as week after week she tells me she is German. We and by we I mean I speak German to her (I spent 8 years in Germany growing up and four more as an adult) and she doesn't have a clue what I'm saying. Yet a week later she does the same thing all over again not remembering me catching her in this lie and embarrassing her.
Gwen on other hand should be sampled by all serious lovers of big tits and bjs.Could you give a description or details about this Gwen. Or pm me. I visit the boat about 3 times per week.
TheLadysMan
12-22-18, 02:45
Unique does AIR dances. I tried her once and that is enough. She does not bother me any more because she knows it is a waste of time for her. A simple no is sufficient. Now Karen is a whole different thing. She is a fun sweet girl with natural suc able titties, and a great a $$. And smile although I would not want it to get any bigger. I just wish she would do otc. She said she does not. Oh, and by the way my preferred answer when a gal asks WHO I am waiting for is " not you".Not you. Know that is some funny shit.
Tecolote32
12-22-18, 12:06
Could you give a description or details about this Gwen. Or pm me. I visit the boat about 3 times per week.Me too please.
Venom Sunday afternoon. Met Prim. White girl. Nice thin body. Pretty face. Small natural breasts. New to this club. Got one dance from her. She said it was 2. Gave me attitude when I questioned her. Gave her $20 and walked away.
SmokeShopJoe
12-24-18, 07:58
So we here know that fake German girl is bad news, when you are there and one of these known bad ladies comes by and asks for a dance, ask them are they going to be better than the last time. Recount how last time she said one thing and provided another, you can go as far as telling them you only get dances from ladies that screw you literally not figuratively. You know they don't / can't keep track of everyone they worked over. Its a bold move but they won't be asking you for another dance any time soon.
So we here know that fake German girl is bad news, when you are there and one of these known bad ladies comes by and asks for a dance, ask them are they going to be better than the last time. Recount how last time she said one thing and provided another, you can go as far as telling them you only get dances from ladies that screw you literally not figuratively. You know they don't / can't keep track of everyone they worked over. Its a bold move but they won't be asking you for another dance any time soon.Or you can just simply ignore her when she comes by and she will get the hint. No need to be an ass but just say not interested and keep looking at other girls. I have used that with her multiple times as she does not seem to recognize the people she has dealt with in weekly bases. There is something wrong with that girls nogging.
TheLadysMan
12-24-18, 11:43
Or you can just simply ignore her when she comes by and she will get the hint. No need to be an ass but just say not interested and keep looking at other girls. I have used that with her multiple times as she does not seem to recognize the people she has dealt with in weekly bases. There is something wrong with that girls nogging.Don't work my man she is a fucking plopper.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-24-18, 13:13
Venom Sunday afternoon. Met Prim. White girl. Nice thin body. Pretty face. Small natural breasts. New to this club. Got one dance from her. She said it was 2. Gave me attitude when I questioned her. Gave her $20 and walked away.Venom floor dances are $10, VIP $15, Cabana $20.
If she pulls that crap tell her no, management will side with you.
Don't work my man she is a fucking plopper.Buy a can of fart spray. Give a little blast when the ploppers plop. LOL. Of course after that you will need to find another place to sit,.
I was at the boat a few days ago and had a new approach. I met Bre who had worked at curves. I asked her if she did otc work, she said that she did, but had different twist to it. Her business model is this. If I went to the Champaign room with her, she would then see me otc and credit me with the money I had spent in the Champaign room. So if I spent 100 in there she would visit me at my house or motel for 200 per hour but would only charge me 100 since I already spent 100 in the champaign room. So you guys tell me if you think she would actually show up at my place and honor that deal. Have any of you had experience with her and done this deal??
I was at the boat a few days ago and had a new approach. I met Bre who had worked at curves. I asked her if she did otc work, she said that she did, but had different twist to it. Her business model is this. If I went to the Champaign room with her, she would then see me otc and credit me with the money I had spent in the Champaign room. So if I spent 100 in there she would visit me at my house or motel for 200 per hour but would only charge me 100 since I already spent 100 in the champaign room. So you guys tell me if you think she would actually show up at my place and honor that deal. Have any of you had experience with her and done this deal??I have had extensive experience over the last month with Bri. I met her at curves. I got the Champagne Room dance. We set up an OTC. Had a good time. I wanted to repeat. Then she started playing me for rides, food, and help with her hotel room. She always needs at least $300 a day. She will credit you nothing and ask for more. Saturday and Sunday she worked at the boat. On Saturday I gave her a ride to and from. On Sunday I gave her I ride to the boat. We were supposed to get together Sunday night after she had a session with a regular customer that she promised to meet. She was only supposed to be at the boat for an hour. The session with me Sunday night was supposed to be credit for all that I have done for her. She totally blew me off. I ended up going to the boat and she had checked out. Not sure if she checked out with the guy she was supposed to meet or what the story was. In any event she is supposed to be in Tennessee starting today for a week. I have blocked her number. I really bent over backwards for her. I've been doing this a long time and seldom have gotten this involved with somebody. For some reason, I really liked her and wanted to take her under my wing and I got really burned for it. When she needed money and I couldn't meet with her I set her up to see my buddy for a session. She then began to harass him for rides and for more money. He's got bigger balls than I have and just told her to f* off! I would avoid her at all costs!
TheLadysMan
12-24-18, 16:52
I was at the boat a few days ago and had a new approach. I met Bre who had worked at curves. I asked her if she did otc work, she said that she did, but had different twist to it. Her business model is this. If I went to the Champaign room with her, she would then see me otc and credit me with the money I had spent in the Champaign room. So if I spent 100 in there she would visit me at my house or motel for 200 per hour but would only charge me 100 since I already spent 100 in the champaign room. So you guys tell me if you think she would actually show up at my place and honor that deal. Have any of you had experience with her and done this deal??Skip her man she is nasty.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-24-18, 21:49
I was at the boat a few days ago and had a new approach. I met Bre who had worked at curves. I asked her if she did otc work, she said that she did, but had different twist to it. Her business model is this. If I went to the Champaign room with her, she would then see me otc and credit me with the money I had spent in the Champaign room. So if I spent 100 in there she would visit me at my house or motel for 200 per hour but would only charge me 100 since I already spent 100 in the champaign room. So you guys tell me if you think she would actually show up at my place and honor that deal. Have any of you had experience with her and done this deal??Complete no go. It's a scam and a half.
I was at the boat a few days ago and had a new approach. I met Bre who had worked at curves. I asked her if she did otc work, she said that she did, but had different twist to it. Her business model is this. If I went to the Champaign room with her, she would then see me otc and credit me with the money I had spent in the Champaign room. So if I spent 100 in there she would visit me at my house or motel for 200 per hour but would only charge me 100 since I already spent 100 in the champaign room. So you guys tell me if you think she would actually show up at my place and honor that deal. Have any of you had experience with her and done this deal??Actually I don't know her, but it sure smells and sounds like a scam to me.
Actually I don't know her, but it sure smells and sounds like a scam to me.I assumed that and declined. Now when she sees me, she just ignores me and goes to the next sucker.
SuckItAgain
12-26-18, 17:20
Actually I don't know her, but it sure smells and sounds like a scam to me.This is something that would be extremely smart for a dancer / escort to do. She would have 2 times regardless. But unfortunately a perfect opportunity to get scammed. But if the champagne room is a hit you're probably paying minimum of. 10 anyway, and then the same amount at her place. I don't see the true loss here. If you got what you wanted in champagne you'd be paying that in there anyway. And she's giving you the perception of value with the. 10 discount on the visit at her house. Same as the club, but with a ton of privacy.
This is something that would be extremely smart for a dancer / escort to do. She would have 2 times regardless. But unfortunately a perfect opportunity to get scammed. But if the champagne room is a hit you're probably paying minimum of. 10 anyway, and then the same amount at her place. I don't see the true loss here. If you got what you wanted in champagne you'd be paying that in there anyway. And she's giving you the perception of value with the. 10 discount on the visit at her house. Same as the club, but with a ton of privacy.Yes. I think it would be a good business model. But my question was do you think she would honor the agreement? If I spent 200 in the Champaign room. The she would visit me at home for no money except possibly a tip for good service. I offered the full 200 for her to come to my house without the VIP room visit. It would actually be less time and work for her. She declined. That is why I believe as others had stated that she is a scammer.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-27-18, 21:20
Yes. I think it would be a good business model. But my question was do you think she would honor the agreement? If I spent 200 in the Champaign room. The she would visit me at home for no money except possibly a tip for good service. I offered the full 200 for her to come to my house without the VIP room visit. It would actually be less time and work for her. She declined. That is why I believe as others had stated that she is a scammer.I've actually fallen for this scam before. I'd seen her several times and had a good impression from her. We'd discussed it previously but then she didn't show. Texted me a day and a half later with a lame excuse. Then next time I was in she tried to approach me again. No thank you.
I think I might have had dances with the same girl at venom a few weeks back.
I didn't take up the cabana offer as I'd never seen her before.
Interesting story as a friend of mine had a similar experience with star when her dad passed.
He really liked her and wanted to help and he fronted money with the belief that favors or repayment was an option.
Unfortunately she stopped responding to his texts, moved and has not contacted him.
Shame too, as they had a lot of years of fun in and out of the club.
Costly lesson learned.
I have had extensive experience over the last month with Bri. I met her at curves. I got the Champagne Room dance. We set up an OTC. Had a good time. I wanted to repeat. Then she started playing me for rides, food, and help with her hotel room. She always needs at least $300 a day. She will credit you nothing and ask for more. Saturday and Sunday she worked at the boat. On Saturday I gave her a ride to and from. On Sunday I gave her I ride to the boat. We were supposed to get together Sunday night after she had a session with a regular customer that she promised to meet. She was only supposed to be at the boat for an hour. The session with me Sunday night was supposed to be credit for all that I have done for her. She totally blew me off. I ended up going to the boat and she had checked out. Not sure if she checked out with the guy she was supposed to meet or what the story was. In any event she is supposed to be in Tennessee starting today for a week. I have blocked her number. I really bent over backwards for her. I've been doing this a long time and seldom have gotten this involved with somebody. For some reason, I really liked her and wanted to take her under my wing and I got really burned for it. When she needed money and I couldn't meet with her I set her up to see my buddy for a session. She then began to harass him for rides and for more money. He's got bigger balls than I have and just told her to f* off! I would avoid her at all costs!
TucsonGuy2015
12-28-18, 19:03
I was at the boat a few days ago and had a new approach. I met Bre who had worked at curves. I asked her if she did otc work, she said that she did, but had different twist to it. Her business model is this. If I went to the Champaign room with her, she would then see me otc and credit me with the money I had spent in the Champaign room. So if I spent 100 in there she would visit me at my house or motel for 200 per hour but would only charge me 100 since I already spent 100 in the champaign room. So you guys tell me if you think she would actually show up at my place and honor that deal. Have any of you had experience with her and done this deal??I second the opinion that this is probably a scam. If you spend $100 in the cabana, she has to give some of that to the club. If you have fun in the cabana / VIP you probably are thinking with your little head and are more likely to fall for a scam, that is the most likely angle she is playing. One of the maxims we post is 'never pay up front,' and I think this falls into that category- you are being asked to spend money with the promise of benefits later. 99/100 paying up front is some sort of scam.
After I was stood up by someone I was talking to from SB who 'forgot' about meeting me this afternoon I grabbed some lunch and came back to my hotel to eat. I decided to head out to Venom for a spell.
First one I came into contact with there was Diana. She's lost a lot of weight, but something was 'off' with her since the last time I saw her a few months ago. It's only speculation on my part, but it may be chemical. Had a few dances from her anyway. She's still great, but not what I was looking for today, so I decided I'd play it patient and hope for the best.
Met a Phoenician who comes to town once a week to dance. Now I know most of you all prefer the skinny and fit dancers, but I have to say, you can find some real gems if you also take a chance with some of the bigger girls. Oksana gave me a few dances. Chubby girl with short blonde hair, sweet smile and incredible eyes. She gave a very seductive style of dancing. Mileage was decent for a floor dance, but after talking to her, the mileage doesn't change behind the curtain in a cabana. Still, the dances were pretty hot considering.
Next up was Logan. Hispanic, asian, and african-american mixed, she had a very exotic look to her. Also a thicker girl. She was really sweet, but mileage was merely moderate at best. She didn't strike me as one who expands her boundaries in private. So after a couple mechanical style dances, I moved on.
Along came Prim. She was pushing for VIP or cabana from the get go. I told her to slow her roll and let's just get it started with a dance on the floor. So we did, and I have to say she didn't really do it for me. So it was a one and done with her.
I finally got the attention of yet another bigger dancer named Kimberly. Really sweet hispanic 'girl next door' type. She had a certain innocence about her (comparatively speaking). She had a seductive style that appealed to me. I convinced her to go to the cabana with me, negotiating terms before heading there. A truly fun experience was had.
For those of you that have been commenting on whether Bri is pulling a scam by her business model at the boat, you may be interested in knowing that I just received a text from her, actually I was one of many that the text was sent to, regarding a GoFundMe account for Bri who says she is stuck in Tennessee and homeless and is looking for $400 to fly back to Tucson. I do believe she is or was in Tennessee. In my presence, she was talking to her mother on the phone about the trip to Tennessee. So, I think that trip has actually occurred. However, she told me that a family member had donated Airline points for her to be able to fly back to Tucson on a free ticket. Needless to say, knowing Bri as well as I do, I have serious doubts about whether she is homeless and stuck in Tennessee at this time. You may recall, that I was stood up by Bri with whom I was supposed to have an OTC session after she finished work at the boat. I had not heard from her since she stood me up until today. Interestingly, just shortly before I received the text about the GoFundMe account, I received a series of texts from Bri which were meant to sound like they were sent to me on the day I was supposed to meet with her and got stood up. Obviously, her story would be that there was something wrong with her phone and that's why I am receiving these texts almost a week late. If Bri makes it back to Tucson or is actually in Tucson at this time, she will likely be working during the day at the boat again. She was previously a day girl at Curves, however, I think she skipped out on paying her house fee or tipping out or something and is not welcome back at Curves. I'm going to be away from Tucson for the month of January so I will not be encountering her, but, I will be reading the postings on this site and anticipate seeing several from those of you that run across her in one of the clubs. The other update that I find interesting comes from a former Venom dancer. I have read several postings on here about the dancer Baby from Venom. There was speculation that she was taking a leave of absence of because of a pregnancy. There was a posting in April of this year that she was seen at TD's East. My source tells me that she is in prison. If any of you has a reliable source, you may want to investigate this further.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-30-18, 14:23
Old news. Unrelated to hobby.
Old news. Unrelated to hobby.My apologies! I did not realize it was common knowledge. I hadn't seen anything about that in the postings here so thought I was providing some new information. There seems to be some posters here that we're looking forward to seeing her again, so I was trying to give a heads-up to them that, if indeed she is in prison, it may be a while before she's back in the club scene if, in fact, she could even return to that kind of work after a stint in prison.
TheLadysMan
12-31-18, 12:08
My apologies! I did not realize it was common knowledge. I hadn't seen anything about that in the postings here so thought I was providing some new information. There seems to be some posters here that we're looking forward to seeing her again, so I was trying to give a heads-up to them that, if indeed she is in prison, it may be a while before she's back in the club scene if, in fact, she could even return to that kind of work after a stint in prison.Don't think there will be many other employment opportunities that weren't there previously. Hey maybe some one can get a conjugal visit lined up.
Ikkyu Sojunn
12-31-18, 15:04
My apologies! I did not realize it was common knowledge. I hadn't seen anything about that in the postings here so thought I was providing some new information. There seems to be some posters here that we're looking forward to seeing her again, so I was trying to give a heads-up to them that, if indeed she is in prison, it may be a while before she's back in the club scene if, in fact, she could even return to that kind of work after a stint in prison.Could be as long as 3 more yrs.
Just a comment about one of my favorite girls at the boat. Karen from Columbia. She has long blonde hair. Beautiful NATURAL titties and an a $$ to die for. Some may find her butt too big. And usually I go for the more petite ones. But the shape is my preference and she always has a good attituded and smile, so yesterday I had a couple of table dances with her and she had my soldier saluting at full attention. Now I am an old fart and table dances don't usually do that for me. But she had me going and stroking me over my shorts. So a very voluptuous gal from Mexico sits right beside us while we are "dancing. Karen tells me that she is her "girl friend". Well she reaches over and strokes me a few times while Karen is doing her dance. I sure appreciated that gesture. So of course I had to do a couple of dance with the Mexican girl. She was nice but not as good a Karen. She has huge bolt ons and that is not my thing and her butt was larger than Karen's. So even though her figure is striking, it is not my deal. Now Karen will do a nice handy in the Champaign room. I don't think she will do more than that, so if anyone has a better experience with her, let us know. I would love to have those lips wrapped around Mr. Happy. I will return to the boat just to see Karen. Although there a a number of fun gals that I like. So I now have a dilemma. To many gals expecting dances with me. Anyone want to donate 5 grand so I can make them all happy?
PoopSnicker
01-03-19, 17:09
I stopped by TDs West for a quick Tuna salad lunch. I got 2 hot table dances from thick young latina Mya. I decided to try her out in the VIP. Fun! Lfk, fiv, daty. They have cameras so I don't think zookling is an option. I have gotten decent mileage there in the past.
HootchiePapa
01-04-19, 00:40
Just a comment about one of my favorite girls at the boat. Karen from Columbia. She has long blonde hair. Beautiful NATURAL titties and an a $$ to die for. Some may find her butt too big. And usually I go for the more petite ones. But the shape is my preference and she always has a good attituded and smile, so yesterday I had a couple of table dances with her and she had my soldier saluting at full attention. Now I am an old fart and table dances don't usually do that for me. But she had me going and stroking me over my shorts. So a very voluptuous gal from Mexico sits right beside us while we are "dancing. Karen tells me that she is her "girl friend". Well she reaches over and strokes me a few times while Karen is doing her dance. I sure appreciated that gesture. So of course I had to do a couple of dance with the Mexican girl. She was nice but not as good a Karen. She has huge bolt ons and that is not my thing and her butt was larger than Karen's. So even though her figure is striking, it is not my deal. Now Karen will do a nice handy in the Champaign room. I don't think she will do more than that, so if anyone has a better experience with her, let us know. I would love to have those lips wrapped around Mr. Happy. I will return to the boat just to see Karen. Although there a a number of fun gals that I like. So I now have a dilemma. To many gals expecting dances with me. Anyone want to donate 5 grand so I can make them all happy?Is this the same Karen who works at curves? I always used to see her there. But I haven't been to clubs in months. Yes her ass is amazing and she always seems to have friends with her. She gives great floor dances as well.
Hootchie.
MotorboatJones
01-04-19, 08:54
There are cameras in the VIP and they allow finger blasting and pussy eating but that's all, huh? Sorry but that doesn't make much sense.
I stopped by TDs West for a quick Tuna salad lunch. I got 2 hot table dances from thick young latina Mya. I decided to try her out in the VIP. Fun! Lfk, fiv, daty. They have cameras so I don't think zookling is an option. I have gotten decent mileage there in the past.
PoopSnicker
01-04-19, 16:17
There are cameras in the VIP and they allow finger blasting and pussy eating but that's all, huh? Sorry but that doesn't make much sense.Life frequently doesn't make sense.
Stripper Luv
01-04-19, 19:48
There are cameras in the VIP and they allow finger blasting and pussy eating but that's all, huh? Sorry but that doesn't make much sense.I have been sucked and fucked in that VIP. YMMV.
TheLadysMan
01-04-19, 21:07
I stopped by TDs West for a quick Tuna salad lunch. I got 2 hot table dances from thick young latina Mya. I decided to try her out in the VIP. Fun! Lfk, fiv, daty. They have cameras so I don't think zookling is an option. I have gotten decent mileage there in the past.Well I've gotten laid there in the past. So I don't think cameras are an issue. But maybe zookling is forbidden.
All this discussion about cameras and I'm thinking "they have tuna salad? I mean, I know some of what they have does smell a little fishy but.
I stopped by TDs West for a quick Tuna salad lunch. I got 2 hot table dances from thick young latina Mya. I decided to try her out in the VIP. Fun! Lfk, fiv, daty. They have cameras so I don't think zookling is an option. I have gotten decent mileage there in the past.
MaximumSpider
01-05-19, 11:26
I was wondering if anyone has any experience with a girl that I've been running into at Curves named Venus, formerly Beverly.
I'll try to be quick: So, I've been frequenting Curves lately and am not necessarily looking for anything more than standard lap dances when I go (despite having partaken in some OTC action many years ago). Back in August I meet a girl named Beverly; white (says she's Italian), mid-20's, thin with perky natural tits, dark hair with highlights, pretty eyes and smile, no tattoos, very friendly. Tip her on stage, try her out on the floor, give her a hundred or so in private. She gives great dances, grinds with her vagina right on the cock. It's awesome. I come back to see her again two weeks later. Take her to private again for another couple hundred. She begins to tell me how awesome I am and she appreciates me and she loves the energy that I give her and that we should get together outside of the club. Typical stuff, right? Gives me her number and real name. Cool. After a few texts, she ghosts me. I don't see her at Curves for months afterwards, either. Whatever. Fast-forward to mid-December, and she's back. I don't recognize her, but she recognizes and approaches me. Says that she got kicked out of Curves for 6 months or so, but now she's back and working under the name "Venus. " Get a few dances. She's still got it. Gives me her number again and says that she'll call me. Nadda. I come back a week later and she's there. I ask her WTF? Her old phone sucked and she got a new phone and new number. Fair enough. She gives me her number a third time. We go to private for a few hundred. Still fun. Supposedly she still wants to together on the outside. Okay. Over the next week a handful of flirty texts are sent back and forth, and as soon as I mention actually getting together, she ghosts me again.
Has anybody run into, or had success with, this girl? I assume that I'm being fished for money in some way, but if that's true, then her methods don't make a whole lot of sense and seem like a really good way to make zero money on the side and lose who would be more than happy to be a regular customer in the club itself. She's hot enough to pursue if OTC is on the table, and if there's some hidden way to unlock it, then, please, do tell. Or, is trying to find logic behind the actions of a pothead stripper a fool's errand?
If I only have a few hours, is it worth the drive from PHX? Extras are always fun, but need to be stimulated by physical appearance also without breaking the bank.
SuckItAgain
01-05-19, 13:19
I was wondering if anyone has any experience with a girl that I've been running into at Curves named Venus, formerly Beverly.
I'll try to be quick: So, I've been frequenting Curves lately and am not necessarily looking for anything more than standard lap dances when I go (despite having partaken in some OTC action many years ago). Back in August I meet a girl named Beverly; white (says she's Italian), mid-20's, thin with perky natural tits, dark hair with highlights, pretty eyes and smile, no tattoos, very friendly. Tip her on stage, try her out on the floor, give her a hundred or so in private. She gives great dances, grinds with her vagina right on the cock. It's awesome. I come back to see her again two weeks later. Take her to private again for another couple hundred. She begins to tell me how awesome I am and she appreciates me and she loves the energy that I give her and that we should get together outside of the club. Typical stuff, right? Gives me her number and real name. Cool. After a few texts, she ghosts me. I don't see her at Curves for months afterwards, either. Whatever. Fast-forward to mid-December, and she's back. I don't recognize her, but she recognizes and approaches me. Says that she got kicked out of Curves for 6 months or so, but now she's back and working under the name "Venus. " Get a few dances. She's still got it. Gives me her number again and says that she'll call me. Nadda. I come back a week later and she's there. I ask her WTF? Her old phone sucked and she got a new phone and new number. Fair enough. She gives me her number a third time.The truly has your number. No offense brother but she definitely is just using you for the 20's 50's and 100 serial numbers in your back pocket. I would just suggest to enjoy the time when you see her in the club and move on to one that will see you OTC if that's what you truly want from them anyway. It's definitely nice to be able to have both.
If I only have a few hours, is it worth the drive from PHX? Extras are always fun, but need to be stimulated by physical appearance also without breaking the bank.What are you asking. Is what worth the drive? Clubs, an individual? Massage parlors?
Is this the same Karen who works at curves? I always used to see her there. But I haven't been to clubs in months. Yes her ass is amazing and she always seems to have friends with her. She gives great floor dances as well.
Hootchie.I seldom get to curves, so I don't know the Karen there. I just know that I always enjoy a few dances with her. Blonde, dark roots. Great smile and attitude. I like her butt, but I would not like it if it was any larger. Teetering on the edge of my tastes.
TheLadysMan
01-05-19, 18:54
I was wondering if anyone has any experience with a girl that I've been running into at Curves named Venus, formerly Beverly.
I'll try to be quick: So, I've been frequenting Curves lately and am not necessarily looking for anything more than standard lap dances when I go (despite having partaken in some OTC action many years ago). Back in August I meet a girl named Beverly; white (says she's Italian), mid-20's, thin with perky natural tits, dark hair with highlights, pretty eyes and smile, no tattoos, very friendly. Tip her on stage, try her out on the floor, give her a hundred or so in private. She gives great dances, grinds with her vagina right on the cock. It's awesome. I come back to see her again two weeks later. Take her to private again for another couple hundred. She begins to tell me how awesome I am and she appreciates me and she loves the energy that I give her and that we should get together outside of the club. Typical stuff, right? Gives me her number and real name. Cool. After a few texts, she ghosts me. I don't see her at Curves for months afterwards, either. Whatever. Fast-forward to mid-December, and she's back. I don't recognize her, but she recognizes and approaches me. Says that she got kicked out of Curves for 6 months or so, but now she's back and working under the name "Venus. " Get a few dances. She's still got it. Gives me her number again and says that she'll call me. Nadda. I come back a week later and she's there. I ask her WTF? Her old phone sucked and she got a new phone and new number. Fair enough. She gives me her number a third time. We go to private for a few hundred. Still fun. Supposedly she still wants to together on the outside. Okay. Over the next week a handful of flirty texts are sent back and forth, and as soon as I mention actually getting together, she ghosts me again.
Has anybody run into, or had success with, this girl? I assume that I'm being fished for money in some way, but if that's true, then her methods don't make a whole lot of sense and seem like a really good way to make zero money on the side and lose who would be more than happy to be a regular customer in the club itself. She's hot enough to pursue if OTC is on the table, and if there's some hidden way to unlock it, then, please, do tell. Or, is trying to find logic behind the actions of a pothead stripper a fool's errand?Doesn't sound like she needs to make money on the side. She has at least one guy dropping cash on her by the hundys for lap dances. Though it seems that he has possibly caught on.
What are you asking. Is what worth the drive? Clubs, an individual? Massage parlors?Sorry I wasn't clearer, but since I was posting in the "Strip Clubs Reports" I thought it would be an indicator that I was asking about strip clubs. My apologies!
Just wondering if anyone has experience with a very nice looking black girl with a very nice body, name of London, at the boat. She works the evening shift mostly. After doing a couple very good table dances (tiity rubbing and licking, butt groping etc) I enquired about Champaign room dances. She told me she does better than any of the other girls there. But then said we could enjoy ourselves much more OTC. So being a cautious guy, I am hoping to get the lowdown from anyone that has experience with her. This is one hot mamma, but I don't want to get burned. By the way, she has a beautiful younger sister that goes by shazam. My buddy and I had them as a tag team. A fun time.
Just wondering if anyone has experience with a very nice looking black girl with a very nice body, name of London, at the boat. She works the evening shift mostly. After doing a couple very good table dances (tiity rubbing and licking, butt groping etc) I enquired about Champaign room dances. She told me she does better than any of the other girls there. But then said we could enjoy ourselves much more OTC. So being a cautious guy, I am hoping to get the lowdown from anyone that has experience with her. This is one hot mamma, but I don't want to get burned. By the way, she has a beautiful younger sister that goes by shazam. My buddy and I had them as a tag team. A fun time.No actual experience with her, accept like yours, but no doubt she goes the distance. We've talked a few times and she lives in phx, at least a few months ago. She said she could come spend time with me, but of course for a price. Never discussed that part because I get enough for free for the same quality looks-wise. She is an engaging female who travels the world frequently, no sure on whose dime though. I get the feeling she would be a fantastic time, but have no clue on the damage. Speaking from experience, these type of females rarely disappoint. I had a round with Alexandria or Alex, danced over a year ago, and I put her in that same category. Smart gals who know exactly how to please a man.
Arizona Junkie
01-06-19, 07:02
I've seen a very hot AA dancer going by the name London at the Hi Liter in Phoenix. Since Raiders is owned by the same group, and your London says she lives in Phoenix, could be the same girl just working Tucson for a while. Only got dances from her at the HL, but definitely hot, hot, hot, and could be incredible OTC. Report back on any developments, please!
Just wondering if anyone has experience with a very nice looking black girl with a very nice body, name of London, at the boat. She works the evening shift mostly. After doing a couple very good table dances (tiity rubbing and licking, butt groping etc) I enquired about Champaign room dances. She told me she does better than any of the other girls there. But then said we could enjoy ourselves much more OTC. So being a cautious guy, I am hoping to get the lowdown from anyone that has experience with her. This is one hot mamma, but I don't want to get burned. By the way, she has a beautiful younger sister that goes by shazam. My buddy and I had them as a tag team. A fun time.
Hobbiest420
01-06-19, 09:52
Have any of you used this site? I've come across this one in the link below. Decided to contact and she didn't respond until a few days later, thought maybe she's just busy (some of them might have a day job). A few texts later and arranged a time, she has an incall location just a little north of the you. Since I didn't have enough time, and it would be the first time meeting, I asked for the donation rate for hhr, but she said it's 200 roses for up to hr. Since I couldn't find any reviews, and didn't want to waste $$ as I was in a rush, I explained the situation to her, but she seemed a little ticked about reviews and review sites. Hope your experience is different with this one.
https://www.escortdirectory.com/escort/Jay_Elle-110126/
Just wondering if anyone has experience with a very nice looking black girl with a very nice body, name of London, at the boat. She works the evening shift mostly. After doing a couple very good table dances (tiity rubbing and licking, butt groping etc) I enquired about Champaign room dances. She told me she does better than any of the other girls there. But then said we could enjoy ourselves much more OTC. So being a cautious guy, I am hoping to get the lowdown from anyone that has experience with her. This is one hot mamma, but I don't want to get burned. By the way, she has a beautiful younger sister that goes by shazam. My buddy and I had them as a tag team. A fun time.The way I have arranged OTC with the girls starts with floor dances may be one drink and I would ask if they prefer OTC. If they agree to do it I usually ask what would be the rate, if we agreed to the rate I would ask if the have an IC place to go. If all my dots are set right I would tell them to go get dress, tell the bounce she is taking lunch and get out of the club right away with her that day. This will filter out those that are just pulling your leg vs those who are real and want to fuck outside the club.
Best of luck next time.
MaximumSpider
01-06-19, 14:21
The truly has your number. No offense brother but she definitely is just using you for the 20's 50's and 100 serial numbers in your back pocket. I would just suggest to enjoy the time when you see her in the club and move on to one that will see you OTC if that's what you truly want from them anyway. It's definitely nice to be able to have both.
Doesn't sound like she needs to make money on the side. She has at least one guy dropping cash on her by the hundys for lap dances. Though it seems that he has possibly caught on.Yeah, I figured. Just seems like a weird way to go about business that could easily cut off the funds, you know? Why hint at OTC when I didn't even inquire and she's not willing?
Oh well.
Have any of you used this site? I've come across this one in the link below. Decided to contact and she didn't respond until a few days later, thought maybe she's just busy (some of them might have a day job). A few texts later and arranged a time, she has an incall location just a little north of the you. Since I didn't have enough time, and it would be the first time meeting, I asked for the donation rate for hhr, but she said it's 200 roses for up to hr. Since I couldn't find any reviews, and didn't want to waste $$ as I was in a rush, I explained the situation to her, but she seemed a little ticked about reviews and review sites. Hope your experience is different with this one.
https://www.escortdirectory.com/escort/Jay_Elle-110126/That does not look like a 19 year old face to me.
Sorry I wasn't clearer, but since I was posting in the "Strip Clubs Reports" I thought it would be an indicator that I was asking about strip clubs. My apologies!I have had lots of fun and met some very nice looking ladies at raiders reef. Now about breaking the bank-money just flies out of my wallet at those places. So money spent is relative to how much is available of course. So at the boat if you go into the Champaign room at 20 bucks a dance, that means you are burning a c-note every fifteen minutes I have wasted money on non. Performers and have had daty, BBBJ for that much. Sometimes it is just a crap shoot. Now you could go to venom and pay the fee for the cabanas for half an hour but you really need to be sure of what you are going to get in there. Once again, I have had a great time and I got burned a few times. And at venom you must negotiated all the bovine herd to get to a real looker. Just not worth it to me any more. So yes. Drive on down from phoenix and have some fun. Most other town seem to enforce the limited contact rules for dances. The gals I have talked to have told me they make better money for doing less in places other than Tucson. Tucson is a great strip club, (***** house) town.
That does not look like a 19 year old face to me.I have 19 inches!
Ikkyu Sojunn
01-07-19, 01:43
Dropped by the boat at 7. Slow with half a dozen talent, good looking though. Then to venom. Just a few girls, all AA but all fit and trim. Danced with rain, little spinner with a butt built for quarters. Good dances but didn't seem extras avail.
Roy Folker
01-07-19, 02:42
I was wondering if anyone has any experience with a girl that I've been running into at Curves named Venus, formerly Beverly.
I'll try to be quick: So, I've been frequenting Curves lately and am not necessarily looking for anything more than standard lap dances when I go (despite having partaken in some OTC action many years ago). Back in August I meet a girl named Beverly; white (says she's Italian), mid-20's, thin with perky natural tits, dark hair with highlights, pretty eyes and smile, no tattoos, very friendly. Tip her on stage, try her out on the floor, give her a hundred or so in private. She gives great dances, grinds with her vagina right on the cock. It's awesome. I come back to see her again two weeks later. Take her to private again for another couple hundred. She begins to tell me how awesome I am and she appreciates me and she loves the energy that I give her and that we should get together outside of the club. Typical stuff, right? Gives me her number and real name. Cool. After a few texts, she ghosts me. I don't see her at Curves for months afterwards, either. Whatever. Fast-forward to mid-December, and she's back. I don't recognize her, but she recognizes and approaches me. Says that she got kicked out of Curves for 6 months or so, but now she's back and working under the name "Venus. " Get a few dances. She's still got it. Gives me her number again and says that she'll call me. Nadda. I come back a week later and she's there. I ask her WTF? Her old phone sucked and she got a new phone and new number. Fair enough. She gives me her number a third time. We go to private for a few hundred. Still fun. Supposedly she still wants to together on the outside. Okay. Over the next week a handful of flirty texts are sent back and forth, and as soon as I mention actually getting together, she ghosts me again.
Has anybody run into, or had success with, this girl? I assume that I'm being fished for money in some way, but if that's true, then her methods don't make a whole lot of sense and seem like a really good way to make zero money on the side and lose who would be more than happy to be a regular customer in the club itself. She's hot enough to pursue if OTC is on the table, and if there's some hidden way to unlock it, then, please, do tell. Or, is trying to find logic behind the actions of a pothead stripper a fool's errand?She doesn't need to see you outside the club, you keep dropping hundreds on her everytime you see her in the club, she's stringing you along, she has no intention of offering OTC.
It's been at least 6 months since I've seen her in the club.
Lovely sword swallowing act and very tasty kitty.
Never went otc as 3 was well above my scale for 1st time otc.
Hope that helps.
On a side note to the phx visitor, you might hit hi liter up your way as it has some fine playmates.
Stripper Luv
01-10-19, 10:29
I got a couple table dances from Sasha, a thin tiny white girl, who suggested more could be available in the cabana. I couldn't tell from her table dances if she was cabana worthy or not. PM me intel please.
It's been at least 6 months since I've seen her in the club.
Lovely sword swallowing act and very tasty kitty.
Never went otc as 3 was well above my scale for 1st time otc.
Hope that helps.
On a side note to the phx visitor, you might hit hi liter up your way as it has some fine playmates.London just texted me that she is working Thursday and Friday at the boat. I guess I better check out her sword swallowing skills. And Karen, the blonde Columbian at the boat told me yesterday that she would massage mr happy until he spit in the Champaign room for a c-note. I told her for that much I got to be tasting the kitty too. ps. she did slide her hand into my shorts to let me know she was serious.
London just texted me that she is working Thursday and Friday at the boat. I guess I better check out her sword swallowing skills. And Karen, the blonde Columbian at the boat told me yesterday that she would massage mr happy until he spit in the Champaign room for a c-note. I told her for that much I got to be tasting the kitty too. ps. she did slide her hand into my shorts to let me know she was serious.Hey let me know if Karen does more than a handy. She is my type of girl beautiful with great attitude and a sexy body made to fuck. Last time I was there I inquired abou OTC she said she need the get to know me better before, I wante to do some private with her but my time was limited.
TheLadysMan
01-11-19, 15:47
Hey let me know if Karen does more than a handy. She is my type of girl beautiful with great attitude and a sexy body made to fuck. Last time I was there I inquired abou OTC she said she need the get to know me better before, I wante to do some private with her but my time was limited.She does not. I've let her give me. A half dozen handys and she still "want to get to know me better". Offered to buy her lunch or dinner to do so but she always refuses.
She does not. I've let her give me. A half dozen handys and she still "want to get to know me better". Offered to buy her lunch or dinner to do so but she always refuses.She told me that she has a boyfriend. But she always has a great attitude. And a butt that is made to ride. She flirts alot and always jokes about me wanting to fook her. But handy seems to be her limit. A little peek at the kitty too.
I've no idea who this person is.
I don't go anywhere to get a handy as I'm the best that I know to get that accomplished with a little internet stimulation.
So, for me, you're wasting precious time and money if that's all you're in for.
I hit the clubs to find playmates.
I hit AMPs for more than a happy hand ending.
I meet escorts for.
That being said, for my tastes, she is a waste of time and taking your money for dances, mind you, and you could get so much more for the cost of said dances.
But we're all here for different reasons and I respect that, so enjoy what you wish.
I want the full monty whatever arena I play in.
And NO I do not pay for sex, for those LE trolls that hang here or not. I pay for services rendered, whatever they may be.
As far as LE trolls are concerned please go after those people who are actually a danger to to the rest of us seeking a little pleasure and comfort in this insane world we live in and let adults be adults.
She told me that she has a boyfriend. But she always has a great attitude. And a butt that is made to ride. She flirts alot and always jokes about me wanting to fook her. But handy seems to be her limit. A little peek at the kitty too.That's too bad because she could have a steady source of income from regulars doing OTC. She is very flirty and the way she looks at you is the look of a girl who likes to fuck and she seem to get crazy.
TexasMonger
01-12-19, 11:08
That's too bad because she could have a steady source of income from regulars doing OTC. She is very flirty and the way she looks at you is the look of a girl who likes to fuck and she seem to get crazy.Guys,
OTC is a bit tricky. Maybe complicated with some of the girls because of a BF or significant other. But from my experience and I have done lots of OTC in Tucson and other places, the mighty dollar works. Try offering her something she can't refuse. How deep is your pocket? If you are cash worthy and you must have her, I do not see how she will refuse, let us say 2000 at the start of the month when bills are due?
I have done this many times with success, no girl will refuse a huge amount of cash like that. One of you should offer her a huge sum and see if she says yes to OTC. You don't have to go through with it, play her and see if she bites. She is playing all of you by giving you a handy and promising to do after she gets to know you. If she says yes, find an excuse not to do it. What do you have to loose? A handy from a pretty girl? You can get that anyplace.
Cheers,
TM.
Tecolote32
01-12-19, 13:16
I've no idea who this person is. Karen is an older blond dancer originally from Colombia but raised in Israel. She speaks 3 languages, Spanish, English, and Hebrew. Short, about 5'2 without the heels, extremely curvy and voluptuous. If you are into spinners she definitely is not your cup of tea, I mean we're talking Earl Grey to camomile here. Has a tramp stamp and a smaller tat on the back of her neck. Always dances to electronica or industrial techno when on stage. She was a regular at curves for many years. Haven't talked to her aince she left curves, I'm kinda curious to know what that story is. I've been with her otc but keep in mind I've known her for 20+ years. I will say this, you've got to to something to stimulate her physically if you want a shot at more than a handy. She has to be attracted to you somehow. Rhis can be facilitated with a few drinks. She's told me I'm handsome for many years now and at first I kinda rolled my eyes, I mean come on, a stripper telling a guy he's handsome. But one night she told me she'd prove it and danced for me for free for like 2 hours. And I fucked her that night too. This was in like 1999 I think. And boys you better pack a lunch if you get to take her home or to the Notel Motel, because she is one WILD time. She's going to be a project but the reward is definitely worth it.
Now this review peaks my interest and I am a spinner kinda guy.
Thanks.
Karen is an older blond dancer originally from Colombia but raised in Israel. She speaks 3 languages, Spanish, English, and Hebrew. Short, about 5'2 without the heels, extremely curvy and voluptuous. If you are into spinners she definitely is not your cup of tea, I mean we're talking Earl Grey to camomile here. Has a tramp stamp and a smaller tat on the back of her neck. Always dances to electronica or industrial techno when on stage. She was a regular at curves for many years. Haven't talked to her aince she left curves, I'm kinda curious to know what that story is. I've been with her otc but keep in mind I've known her for 20+ years. I will say this, you've got to to something to stimulate her physically if you want a shot at more than a handy. She has to be attracted to you somehow. Rhis can be facilitated with a few drinks. She's told me I'm handsome for many years now and at first I kinda rolled my eyes, I mean come on, a stripper telling a guy he's handsome. But one night she told me she'd prove it and danced for me for free for like 2 hours. And I fucked her that night too. This was in like 1999 I think. And boys you better pack a lunch if you get to take her home or to the Notel Motel, because she is one WILD time. She's going to be a project but the reward is definitely worth it.
MotorboatJones
01-12-19, 19:12
Visited the boat today for the 1st time in a really long time. I was scouting some new talent. Met Karen, she has really nice tits and a big ass for a small girl. Those thighs made me dream of those wrapped around my face. Unfortunately, she would not offer anything beyond a handy. That didn't do it for me. She said anyone offering to fuck there is going to get caught and she will not do that. She declined the OTC option as well. She said we have to get to know each other better. To me, that is stripperese for "spend more money first".
Tatiana is an absolute stunner. Sadly, she was well occupied by the other mongers and I never got to experience her. I will be back for her for sure.
The best was Miriam, a tall, dark-skinned girl. She has an awesome body was willing to negotiate. Got her number for for some OTC action. Can't wait until the next time I see her.
Happy hunting!
MaximumSpider
01-13-19, 04:13
She doesn't need to see you outside the club, you keep dropping hundreds on her everytime you see her in the club, she's stringing you along, she has no intention of offering OTC.I swung by last night looking for another girl that I was a fan of (didn't see her, sadly) and Venus was there. I dropped her a tip on stage to see what she'd do, and she made no attempt at conversing with me afterward, as suspected. So, her funds from my wallet have been cut off, obviously, which is why I asked about her. Bad business practices on her end, if you ask me. So, think of my experience as a cautionary tale (or a challenge if you're into that sort of thing). Curves does not sound like the place to go for OTC anyway, from what I've seen on here.
Visited the boat today for the 1st time in a really long time. I was scouting some new talent. Met Karen, she has really nice tits and a big ass for a small girl. Those thighs made me dream of those wrapped around my face. Unfortunately, she would not offer anything beyond a handy. That didn't do it for me. She said anyone offering to fuck there is going to get caught and she will not do that. She declined the OTC option as well. She said we have to get to know each other better. To me, that is stripperese for "spend more money first".
Tatiana is an absolute stunner. Sadly, she was well occupied by the other mongers and I never got to experience her. I will be back for her for sure.
The best was Miriam, a tall, dark-skinned girl. She has an awesome body was willing to negotiate. Got her number for for some OTC action. Can't wait until the next time I see her.
Happy hunting!What time of day. Evening or afternoon? Is Miriam just dark skinned or AA?
Now this review peaks my interest and I am a spinner kinda guy.
Thanks.This Kendra is a different Kendra than the one I was talking about.
MotorboatJones
01-13-19, 16:46
This was early afternoon on Saturday. I think she is either from Cuba or the Virgin Islands. She had a thick accent and spoke mainly Spanish to me. I'm not certain but I do not think she is AA.
What time of day. Evening or afternoon? Is Miriam just dark skinned or AA?
Visited the boat today for the 1st time in a really long time. I was scouting some new talent. Met Karen, she has really nice tits and a big ass for a small girl. Those thighs made me dream of those wrapped around my face. Unfortunately, she would not offer anything beyond a handy. That didn't do it for me. She said anyone offering to fuck there is going to get caught and she will not do that. She declined the OTC option as well. She said we have to get to know each other better. To me, that is stripperese for "spend more money first".
Tatiana is an absolute stunner. Sadly, she was well occupied by the other mongers and I never got to experience her. I will be back for her for sure.
The best was Miriam, a tall, dark-skinned girl. She has an awesome body was willing to negotiate. Got her number for for some OTC action. Can't wait until the next time I see her.
Happy hunting!MT, do you know if the Tatiana you saw is the same Tatiana that used to work at Venom?
As fr as being caught and getting bounced or someone losing a job, let me say that over the years the rules bend on the players / dancers just like with hardin and james in the nba.
Read into it what you may.
MotorboatJones
01-14-19, 09:09
I don't know if she is the same girl. I never saw her at Venom but I am not a frequent flier at the clubs. Goodamn, she looks awesome up on stage but I do not know about her private dance skills.
MT, do you know if the Tatiana you saw is the same Tatiana that used to work at Venom?
MotorboatJones
01-14-19, 09:10
Of course you are correct. I was just quoting Karen. I think this was just her way of getting me to accept the limits of what she was offering.
As fr as being caught and getting bounced or someone losing a job, let me say that over the years the rules bend on the players / dancers just like with hardin and james in the nba.
Read into it what you may.
Gilligan46
01-15-19, 14:24
This was early afternoon on Saturday. I think she is either from Cuba or the Virgin Islands. She had a thick accent and spoke mainly Spanish to me. I'm not certain but I do not think she is AA.I think I actually met her. If it is the same gal you are referring to. Her accent sounds Jamaican to me. She did two table dances for me, rubbed mr happy a lot and she place my hand between her legs so I could rub mr clitty. A fun time. If it is not the same gal, I still had fun.
MotorboatJones
01-15-19, 15:59
That sounds like her standard table dance. She may be Jamaican but she was definitely speaking Spanish to me.
I think I actually met her. If it is the same gal you are referring to. Her accent sounds Jamaican to me. She did two table dances for me, rubbed mr happy a lot and she place my hand between her legs so I could rub mr clitty. A fun time. If it is not the same gal, I still had fun.
TheLadysMan
01-16-19, 16:47
Back in town from a lengthy work trip. Going to circuit the clubs this weekend. Any recommended new talent at the boat or venom?
I visited Venom after a while being gone. There were about 7 to 9 dancers, I would say about 80 percent were curvy not fat but curvy there was an orintal older gal very petite that did ok dances and AA tall skinny girl but other than that not much. It was also slow not many mongers there.
Moved to Raiders after and say multiple very good looking girls there, the one that I stuck with was Karmen. Very sexy and dance are sensual. We did the private and she did allowed roaming and FOV and handy but nothing else. I think in time if she gets more comfortable with you she may do OTC.
Has any one seen Brittny she use to work at the boat is is she still around and does she still go by Brittny or Roxxy?
TheLadysMan
01-19-19, 11:24
Has any one seen Brittny she use to work at the boat is is she still around and does she still go by Brittny or Roxxy?Britney was at the boat Friday at least while I was there from 1 to 4.
At the boat now. Kendra greeted me right after I found a seat. Grabbed mr happy. I did a couple table dances with her. She said her hand into my shorts and had him at attention. She is however a big talker and that is fun. But talk is all it is. But for two table dances at ten bucks per dance, I a m not complaining.
I met a 28 year old spinner named Saphira they today. She is from California. Been here a week. Just started at the boat. Perfect natural titties. Great ass. Wonderful tables dances. Tit sucking. Dick grabbing and likes to nuzzle the beck and get nuzzled. Very friendly. I asked about OTC. She replied, "not yet". I want to be the one to get her home. Perfect blonde spinner.
At the boat. Met Casey. Worked at venom. Fun floor dances. In fact the bouncer told her to stop that. Damn. Anyhow, will do otc for three bills. Aa girl. Smal boobs. Wonderful ass and pussy.
TheLadysMan
01-19-19, 22:22
I met a 28 year old spinner named Saphira they today. She is from California. Been here a week. Just started at the boat. Perfect natural titties. Great ass. Wonderful tables dances. Tit sucking. Dick grabbing and likes to nuzzle the beck and get nuzzled. Very friendly. I asked about OTC. She replied, "not yet". I want to be the one to get her home. Perfect blonde spinner.On Friday she was from Michigan.
On Friday she was from Michigan.I could be wrong about where she is from. So many gals. Got crs, especially when the blood has shifted from one head to the other.
I visited the boat again just to see how far Karen would go. I regret to let you know she won't play, she stated she has got a boyfriend and would no pt do it just a handy and that's it. She admits she could if she wanted to fuck a lot of people but she won't. Also saw Ferrari and her sister. Her sister it is one beautiful thing, I can't remember her name but she is cute. Has anyone had any experience with her, she did couple of dances with me and said it gets bette in the private. I was very hesitant to do it so I passed. Also had a couple of dances from a tall very sexy dark skin long curly hair girl, when I told her that I was waiting for another girl she said I am better than her, and she did get very went and pussy felt warm also forgot her name. Let me tell you there is quite a few good looking girls at the boat now.
TexasMonger
01-21-19, 11:04
I visited the boat again just to see how far Karen would go. I regret to let you know she won't play, she stated she has got a boyfriend and would no pt do it just a handy and that's it. She admits she could if she wanted to fuck a lot of people but she won't. .They all say that to make them more in desirable. It is an old tactic, but may backfire on her. Look, I have yet to tangle with a dancer who will not fuck for the right fee. If she doesn't she is on the road of decline because we clients, always want more. A handy from a pretty girl or all the way with another pretty girl? Who will you choose? She is playing but she will shoot herself in the foot when guys will stop buying dance leading to lesser expectations.
Cheers.
A158.
Visited venom today had dances from Jennifer which were ok small oriental girl very Pettit. Than a tall cup glass came along. Blond with very nice body but an ok face named Gorial. We ddI three dances she was very aggressive so I did FIV she came three times or more for what I could tell. She had to leave but I managed to get her number as I did asked her if she fucked outside the club which see said yes. I will report if we get together but not counting my eggs yet as too many of Hesse girls lie just get money.
If any of you spent time e with her let me know how did it go.
At the boat now. Kendra greeted me right after I found a seat. Grabbed mr happy. I did a couple table dances with her. She said her hand into my shorts and had him at attention. She is however a big talker and that is fun. But talk is all it is. But for two table dances at ten bucks per dance, I a m not complaining.Is this Kendra a light-skinned AA from phx?
Is this Kendra a light-skinned AA from phx?No. She is a blonde from Columbia. Great natural tits. Larger butt. Nice though because of shape and not a big tummy. Her personality and hands on attitude is what I like. Handy till you cum in the Champaign.
Room for a c note.
Ferraris sister has no gag reflex and will twerk you till tomorrow.
Worth the CR $ which will probably vary so work it out first.
HornBillIsland
01-22-19, 19:01
Ferraris sister has no gag reflex and will twerk you till tomorrow.
Worth the CR $ which will probably vary so work it out first.Any chance she does OTC work?
Tecolote32
01-23-19, 01:04
No. She is a blonde from Columbia. Great natural tits. Larger butt. Nice though because of shape and not a big tummy. Her personality and hands on attitude is what I like. Handy till you cum in the Champaign.
Room for a c note.That's Karen brah, not Kendra.
Any info on this one. I saw a couple of others looking for info on her but no further posts. She said she was from NC. She was very pretty thick in all the right places. Any info would be appreciated.
That's Karen brah, not Kendra.You are correct. The blood must not have returned to the big head yet. Sorry for the confusion on my part. So many gals. So few working brain cells at my age. LOL.
I don't but it never hurts to ask.
Any chance she does OTC work?
TheLadysMan
01-23-19, 21:12
Any chance she does OTC work?Yes she will and she can host no less.
TheLadysMan
01-24-19, 22:28
Any info on this one. I saw a couple of others looking for info on her but no further posts. She said she was from NC. She was very pretty thick in all the right places. Any info would be appreciated.She gives an insane bbbjcimnqns.
They all say that to make them more in desirable. It is an old tactic, but may backfire on her. Look, I have yet to tangle with a dancer who will not fuck for the right fee. If she doesn't she is on the road of decline because we clients, always want more. A handy from a pretty girl or all the way with another pretty girl? Who will you choose? She is playing but she will shoot herself in the foot when guys will stop buying dance leading to lesser expectations.
Cheers.
A158.Tactic or not she still refused to fuck. I try offering more money and it was no go and believed me I am not an ugly guy we had drinks and log talks and dances also but still no go. I even speak Spanish so her and I can communicate better and still no go. May by you had that charm that captivated her but so far no guy is doing that. I will keep trying and if it gets too much I will call it quits but for now is her and now I going after genavin she is hot hot hot.
TexasMonger
01-26-19, 10:51
Tactic or not she still refused to fuck. I try offering more money and it was no go and believed me I am not an ugly guy we had drinks and log talks and dances also but still no go. I even speak Spanish so her and I can communicate better and still no go. May by you had that charm that captivated her but so far no guy is doing that. I will keep trying and if it gets too much I will call it quits but for now is her and now I going after genavin she is hot hot hot.Just to clarify one thing, I have not been OTC with her either. I was just stating that all of them, including her will fuck for the right price. Now G is hot. Also next on my OTC list.
Cheers.
TM.
Stripper Luv
01-26-19, 10:56
At Raiders had CR dances from Elana (a plastic surgery failure), Tatiana, Karen, and Carolina. Karen and Carolina were HJ only experiences with Carolina being the best. Tatiana is so sexy and hot. It was a satisfying experience.
At Venom had cabanas with China, Evie, Monica, Jamaica, and Brandy. All were exceptional performances except Evie who I don't recommend.
I Luv Head
01-26-19, 11:08
I have never been a fan of strip clubs because in my experience I end up blowing a lot of money and just go home horny. Because of that I only go on the rare occasions like my married friends actually getting to go out or the occasional bachelor party. That being said, I have been to most of the strip clubs in Tucson over the years and the only one with real talent that I have actually risked asking about take out was Tens and I have had no luck, (haven't tried in a few years though).
Lately I have been contemplating giving the clubs a try though, because every attempt to try out new talent on the escort scene lately has led to a wasted night of searching, texting, getting no replies, stupid screening requests or getting ridiculous rates from non reviewed and non attractive providers. The few I have actually seen have been mediocre at best and I am really getting sick of wasting my time and money. So here I am checking out the strip club forum.
My main concern is the overall cost and if it's actually worth it though. Will someone please break this down for me? I realize that it differs from club to club and dancer to dancer, but I'm just looking for an estimate or average that you would normally expect to pay. I am wondering what the overall cost is, (cover charge, drinks, dances, etc) for the following:
1. Getting a BJ in the club.
2. FS in the club.
3. Cost of takeout for half hour.
4. Cost of take out for a full hour.
I do realize that talking specifics is a touchy topic now a days so if you prefer, please send me a PM.
Thank you in advance.
ILH.
ETucson520
01-26-19, 11:55
At Raiders had CR dances from Elana (a plastic surgery failure), Tatiana, Karen, and Carolina. Karen and Carolina were HJ only experiences with Carolina being the best. Tatiana is so sexy and hot. It was a satisfying experience.
At Venom had cabanas with China, Evie, Monica, Jamaica, and Brandy. All were exceptional performances except Evie who I don't recommend.Hi,
I've seen Carolina before never had the chance to take her CR. What was the damage for HJ?
Ikkyu Sojunn
01-26-19, 21:25
For extras venom is best with raiders in second.
Floor dances are 10. Cabana or Champaign room are $20.
Venom has the cabanas which is basically a closet, very practical but it's $25 entrance fee. Raiders has no fee Champaign but not as private and girls are less willing to cross lines. Still happens though.
1. Getting a BJ in the club. Most I've heard is $100.
2. FS in the club. $100-$200.
3. Cost of takeout $200 in my experience but I don't have a lot. Avoid pay now scams. They've rarely discussed time just activities.
Get a floor dances first. If she colors outside the lines she'll let you know. Let your hands wander so she knows your down.
Venom girls know what the Cabana is for but you may want to be more circumspect at raiders. The champagne room is more legit than not.
Avoid PHX girls unless they're reviewed.
I visited the boat tonight about 6:30. Had 4 table dances with Momo. She us a young blonde with a cups and a fantastic ass and pussy. She gives great table dances. Pussy rubbing. Titty sucking. Fiv. She told me in the Champaign Room, She will be sure I cum. She will not put anything in her mouth, but she will put whatever I want in mine. So all in all a fun time if you don't want a BBBJ or FS.
Got back to Tucson Monday night for six weeks for work. Hit up the boat Monday night. Very quiet. For a while I was the only customer there. Ran into Kaylani. She's a light complected AA who I knew from Venom. She's now at the boat and also works at Eden every so often. She is pretty and has a thin build. Too tall to be a spinner. The only other dancer I knew there that night was Hazel. Monday was the first time she didn't attack me when I walked in the door to try to get me to go to the champagne room with her. Met an attractive small framed girl, probably Hispanic, named Ella. Hit the champagne room with her for five dances. Very sensual dances. Nothing over the top. Would like to see more of her. Seems very intelligent. Says she works as a barista during the day.
TucsonGuy2015
01-30-19, 16:32
Got back to Tucson Monday night for six weeks for work. Hit up the boat Monday night. Very quiet. For a while I was the only customer there. Ran into Kaylani. She's a light complected AA who I knew from Venom. She's now at the boat and also works at Eden every so often. She is pretty and has a thin build. Too tall to be a spinner. The only other dancer I knew there that night was Hazel. Monday was the first time she didn't attack me when I walked in the door to try to get me to go to the champagne room with her. Met an attractive small framed girl, probably Hispanic, named Ella. Hit the champagne room with her for five dances. Very sensual dances. Nothing over the top. Would like to see more of her. Seems very intelligent. Says she works as a barista during the day.Dancers who work at the Boat or Venom sometimes work at Eden from 2-4, since Eden is open later. Eden is usually the worst bet for extras, but if a dancer is working 2-4 at Eden after working at another SC you might be able to negotiate something.
My experience is that Eden is pretty busy during the Gem Show- it is not great by Tucson standards, usually strict on contact and the one time I tried their cabana a bouncer stood outside the door and warned us a couple times per song about too much touching. But by the standards of other cities I've visited SCs, Eden is probably better than it is by Tucson standards. Los Angeles has very attractive dancers at most of the clubs but you have to spend a lot of money or visit a sketchy SC by the airport to get extras. Las Vegas is similar, but even a sketchy club might break the bank. Seattle is similar also. Tucson provides the most options at a reasonable price in my experience, but if you are used to overpriced SCs with stricter rules for contact then Eden or even Ten's is pretty good.
During the Gem Show, I think Venom and the Boat are still the best bet. Curves brings in out of town dancers and has a lot of attractive dancers, but it gets so busy you have to go the VIP just to get a dance. That skews supply and demand in favor of the dancer. I haven't tried Eden or Ten's during the Gem Show, but I've driven by and seen full parking lots a few times. Same for TDW. I look forward to hearing how the SCs are the next few weeks.
Gem show or no show, venom and the boat are your best bets for active playtime.
Curves is a lot of talk and promises for $$ and no delivery, in my experience over 10 years of this nonsense.
East and west are hit or miss but have been worthless for this ole' boy for 2 years running.
10's is a joke unless you know star.
If you hit venom know there is much talent to talk to.
CiCi gives a nice bb reverse cowgirl without any take home burning but unfortunately limits time to 3 songs in cabana. I won't be repeating anytime soon.
Jamaica is out of town for 2 weeks.
Good luck with the gem show in town and clearly OTC is out of the question unless you want to pop 120 for a 60 room.
Happy hunting.
IcemanCummeth
01-31-19, 09:29
Had a floor dance with Diamond. Wearing a slitted jumper with her meaty labia hanging out. Knew I needed to play deeper and went to champagne for two more dances. Fiv, fia, BBBJ, he and a mouthful of daty. . 5 total. Not sure how I have not seen her before. OTC available but cannot host. One of these days. She is a sweetheart.
I Luv Head
01-31-19, 12:36
For extras venom is best with raiders in second.
Floor dances are 10. Cabana or Champaign room are $20.
Venom has the cabanas which is basically a closet, very practical but it's $25 entrance fee. Raiders has no fee Champaign but not as private and girls are less willing to cross lines. Still happens though.
1. Getting a BJ in the club. Most I've heard is $100.
2. FS in the club. $100-$200.
3. Cost of takeout $200 in my experience but I don't have a lot. Avoid pay now scams. They've rarely discussed time just activities.
Get a floor dances first. If she colors outside the lines she'll let you know. Let your hands wander so she knows your down.
Venom girls know what the Cabana is for but you may want to be more circumspect at raiders. The champagne room is more legit than not.
Avoid PHX girls unless they're reviewed.Thank you for all the great info!
Had a floor dance with Diamond. Wearing a slitted jumper with her meaty labia hanging out. Knew I needed to play deeper and went to champagne for two more dances. Fiv, fia, BBBJ, he and a mouthful of daty. . 5 total. Not sure how I have not seen her before. OTC available but cannot host. One of these days. She is a sweetheart.Yep. She is fun. You got all that done in two dances. Wow. You are faster than a speeding bullet. LOL. I spent 5 songs with her a year ago. She is a regular there. I don't know how you ever missed her. She wants at least 300 for otc. She also watches porn / loves anal. So it might be worth the 300.
Stripper Luv
02-02-19, 11:05
Yep. She is fun. You got all that done in two dances. Wow. You are faster than a speeding bullet. LOL. I spent 5 songs with her a year ago. She is a regular there. I don't know how you ever missed her. She wants at least 300 for otc. She also watches porn / loves anal. So it might be worth the 300.There is no doubt Diamond is talented. Her oral skills, alone, are worth every penny. OTC she becomes a monger's paradise.
Stripper Luv
02-02-19, 15:33
Monica at venom gets my highest recommendation.
Stripper Luv
02-02-19, 16:07
Formerly at Curves now at Venom. Best tits ever. Super table dances but nothing added in the cabana.
After a humongous late pancake breakfast at IHOP and not hearing from my usual outcall girls oh, I decided to hit the clubs. I hit Venom first. That was a bust. Not a single girl I recognized! Not really anyone that I would take back to the Cabana. Moved over to the boat. Met Suzette. Thought I would try her out based on my friends experience. He said he got FS from her in the champagne room previously. There was a lot of fingering and daty. She was handy but that was it. Never tried to put it in her mouth or suggested anything further. Then went back to the champagne room with Dimond. I have gotten dances from diamond in the past. They were high mileage but nothing over the top. I know from other people's experiences that she can be quite active in the Champagne Room. I told her up front I only had $100. This time, first song, she dropped to her knees and went at it with her mouth. For one song she did a stripper pussy slide. She was very wet. That was quite enjoyable. Then finished off in the mouth. Four Songs total. Gave her 100. She was happy with that because I've had many other dances with her and given her large tips in the past.
After a humongous late pancake breakfast at IHOP and not hearing from my usual outcall girls oh, I decided to hit the clubs. I hit Venom first. That was a bust. Not a single girl I recognized! Not really anyone that I would take back to the Cabana. Moved over to the boat. Met Suzette. Thought I would try her out based on my friends experience. He said he got FS from her in the champagne room previously. There was a lot of fingering and daty. She was handy but that was it. Never tried to put it in her mouth or suggested anything further. Then went back to the champagne room with Dimond. I have gotten dances from diamond in the past. They were high mileage but nothing over the top. I know from other people's experiences that she can be quite active in the Champagne Room. I told her up front I only had $100. This time, first song, she dropped to her knees and went at it with her mouth. For one song she did a stripper pussy slide. She was very wet. That was quite enjoyable. Then finished off in the mouth. Four Songs total. Gave her 100. She was happy with that because I've had many other dances with her and given her large tips in the past.Can you give a description of what Diamond looks like, I have yet to see her there. Many have talk about her including strippers I know have told me she goes the extra mile. Is she AA, white, latin etc. I did meet one of Karen's friend she is tall Mexican girl mid 20's slim body puffy black hair she seem to be fun I did not get her name but she did two dances for me and was very gravy. I was looking for other girl so I did not take any of them to the private.
Stripper Luv
02-03-19, 10:56
Was at Tens at 8:00 Thursday night and I was the only customer. Three dancers all of them titless, tattooed, trailer park trash.
Member #6247
02-03-19, 11:14
Mongers, I am looking for an asian that will do OTC work at he Boat or Venom? Any experiences? Feel free to PM.
Just returned from some pre-game activities at Venom. Five dancers, me, DJ, barkeep, and bouncer for the first hour of the day. I met Sophie as soon as I walked in the door and never strayed from her. She's a 19-year-old AA dancer, and although she's relatively new, she knows her stuff. Three floor dances and five VIP and I scored -- let's say I scored a field goal, if a touchdown is the most you can get. Treat her well, gents.
Mongers, I am looking for an asian that will do OTC work at he Boat or Venom? Any experiences? Feel free to PM.Must she be Asian??
Was at Tens at 8:00 Thursday night and I was the only customer. Three dancers all of them titless, tattooed, trailer park trash.Why am I not surprised?
Can you give a description of what Diamond looks like, I have yet to see her there. Many have talk about her including strippers I know have told me she goes the extra mile. Is she AA, white, latin etc. I did meet one of Karen's friend she is tall Mexican girl mid 20's slim body puffy black hair she seem to be fun I did not get her name but she did two dances for me and was very gravy. I was looking for other girl so I did not take any of them to the private.Diamond is a thin, fit, black girl. College age. Hair is always different everytime I see her. Probably C cups. Very articulate and intelligent. Easy to talk to. Tells me she is a freak and I can believe it.
Was at Tens at 8:00 Thursday night and I was the only customer. Three dancers all of them titless, tattooed, trailer park trash.But did they have teeth?
Can you give a description of what Diamond looks like, I have yet to see her there. Many have talk about her including strippers I know have told me she goes the extra mile. Is she AA, white, latin etc. I did meet one of Karen's friend she is tall Mexican girl mid 20's slim body puffy black hair she seem to be fun I did not get her name but she did two dances for me and was very gravy. I was looking for other girl so I did not take any of them to the private.She is AA. Not short. Slender body with a great a $$. Nice natural titties. Just a bit of hanger style. Medium to long hair depending if she has extensions on. There are a few gasl that could fit that description at the boat. Just pay attention to their names when they are called to the stage or done with the stage dance. You can always ask a bounver if she is working.
Was at Tens at 8:00 Thursday night and I was the only customer. Three dancers all of them titless, tattooed, trailer park trash.LOL, great description.
She is AA. Not short. Slender body with a great a $$. Nice natural titties. Just a bit of hanger style. Medium to long hair depending if she has extensions on. There are a few gasl that could fit that description at the boat. Just pay attention to their names when they are called to the stage or done with the stage dance. You can always ask a bounver if she is working.Thank you sir, your help is greatly appreciate it. I wil, be on the lookout next time I am there.
Member #6247
02-03-19, 18:48
Doesn't have to be, just a preference.
Doesn't have to be, just a preference.Depends on how deep your pockets are.
Member #6247
02-04-19, 10:07
Achmed, they can be reasonably deep for quality talent. Outside of the AMP scene there are regrettably few Asians out there.
TheLadysMan
02-04-19, 11:58
Achmed, they can be reasonably deep for quality talent. Outside of the AMP scene there are regrettably few Asians out there.I too wish there were more nubile young Asian strippers. CS had a few in the day. But nothing lately.
Monday afternoon hit Venom and the boat. Nothing much going on at Venom. Not a surprise! At the boat there was a fairly nice selection of girls. Saw two new little tight body girls I haven't seen before. One was Safari the other one was Stevie. Safari said that she's worked there off and on for the last year. Stevie has only been there about four or five days. Did not try either one of them in the champagne room but both had pretty hot little bodies. Went to the champagne room with cookie. Had 2 dances which were average. No extras offered or suggested. Didn't see Diamond but when I was in the champagne room heard her name announced to go onstage. Was approached by another black girl who was similar to Diamond named China. No Ferrari or Genevieve. I took a couple of other girls on stage but can't remember their names. I never seen that before either. Thank God no Unique! Any info on Stevie, Safari, or China?
Stripper Luv
02-06-19, 12:03
Monday afternoon hit Venom and the boat. Nothing much going on at Venom. Not a surprise! At the boat there was a fairly nice selection of girls. Saw two new little tight body girls I haven't seen before. One was Safari the other one was Stevie. Safari said that she's worked there off and on for the last year. Stevie has only been there about four or five days. Did not try either one of them in the champagne room but both had pretty hot little bodies. Went to the champagne room with cookie. Had 2 dances which were average. No extras offered or suggested. Didn't see Diamond but when I was in the champagne room heard her name announced to go onstage. Was approached by another black girl who was similar to Diamond named China. No Ferrari or Genevieve. I took a couple of other girls on stage but can't remember their names. I never seen that before either. Thank God no Unique! Any info on Stevie, Safari, or China?China gets my highest recommendation. I have no experience with Stevie or Safari.
Tecolote32
02-06-19, 22:05
Is back at venom. Still horny as ever. Old skoolers will remember her, a very pretty latina, little thick in the middle with a nice big ass and tits with gumdrop nips. Oral skills that will make you reach and grab for shit that isn't there. Can actually hold a conversation. Is also a massage school graduate and will rub your back and shoulders wonderfully. Doesn't try to swindle or cheat or anything dishonest, she wants you to come back. It's a business after all right? But she's got the model down, great customer service at a good price keeps them coming back. I sure missed her and am glad she's back. If you're into skinny chicks she will probably not appeal to you. But for thickness lovers like myself, she's awesome. A+.
Monday afternoon hit Venom and the boat. Nothing much going on at Venom. Not a surprise! At the boat there was a fairly nice selection of girls. Saw two new little tight body girls I haven't seen before. One was Safari the other one was Stevie. Safari said that she's worked there off and on for the last year. Stevie has only been there about four or five days. Did not try either one of them in the champagne room but both had pretty hot little bodies. Went to the champagne room with cookie. Had 2 dances which were average. No extras offered or suggested. Didn't see Diamond but when I was in the champagne room heard her name announced to go onstage. Was approached by another black girl who was similar to Diamond named China. No Ferrari or Genevieve. I took a couple of other girls on stage but can't remember their names. I never seen that before either. Thank God no Unique! Any info on Stevie, Safari, or China?I got nothing on those girls, but Cookie is just s teaser the CR and her dances are lame. I while back I did a few dances with her and was greatly disappointed. I have been looking to see if I find Tatiana, there used to be a Tatiana working at Venom who also used to post in BP under the name Linda. She use a friend of hers to do BP and sometimes she would do it. For what I heard from linds she told me that her friend who used to posed for her was stealing from customers so they stop talking. Now that Tatiana was a lot of fun.
Any info on Harmony at the boat?
I had the same experience.
Formerly at Curves now at Venom. Best tits ever. Super table dances but nothing added in the cabana.
Monica at venom gets my highest recommendation.I've seen Monica several times in the Cabana, both before and after the enhancements. She is lots of fun, but a little too much business-like for me. These days I prefer my ATF's and when they aren't available I enjoy checking out the new talent.
I'm surprised at just how many of the younger attractive dancers are not willing to provide the ultimate cabana experience. I guess if the don't enjoy it then why bother.
TheLadysMan
02-08-19, 08:57
I got nothing on those girls, but Cookie is just s teaser the CR and her dances are lame. I while back I did a few dances with her and was greatly disappointed. I have been looking to see if I find Tatiana, there used to be a Tatiana working at Venom who also used to post in BP under the name Linda. She use a friend of hers to do BP and sometimes she would do it. For what I heard from linds she told me that her friend who used to posed for her was stealing from customers so they stop talking. Now that Tatiana was a lot of fun.Cookie will provide a handy for sure but nothing further. And actually a pretty damn good one. She get edging me for about 15 to 20 min until I finally blasted all over her chest.
Stripper Luv
02-09-19, 10:40
Any intel on jasmine and Brandy at Venom? You can PM details.
Anyone know if Sunny (big blond) is still at Venom? Also when / where Tatiana is dancing? Many thanks!
Because we were bored with the other clubs, my buddy and I decided to hit td's east about 5 on Saturday. I told him not to expect much. And I was right. One girl at the bar and no one dancing. We had a drink and watched some basket ball for awhile. Then Georgia showed up and made it all worth while. She is a slender AA with Beautiful natural titties and a great a $$. She was friendly with a great personality. Likes to talk. After half an hour of bull shitting I had to have some table dances with her.
They were the best floor dances I could imagine. Titty sucking. Feeling her wet pussy. Her rubbing mr happy. Got her digits for OTC work. She says she is very selective about doing OTC work, but she likes me. Probably says that to all the guys. So I think I struck gold in a club that was almost dead. In fact she said she would have left if we had not come in. She told me that their target clientele is out of town businessmen. Especially during the gem show.
Stripper Luv
02-10-19, 13:53
Anyone know if Sunny (big blond) is still at Venom? Also when / where Tatiana is dancing? Many thanks!I saw Tatiana at Raiders yesterday. I haven't seen Sunny in a long time.
I got into to town yesterday afternoon and, after a 4 pm appointment, I decided to go check out a club. My thinking was to check one out that I hadn't been to in quite a while.
At about 6:30 I pulled into an empty parking lot at TDs East. And found a locked door. Maybe it was mentioned here and I missed it, but apparently they are closed on Mondays now. I spent a few minutes on a search to look up their phone number as if maybe they opened up later on certain days. The link I saw said they were open, but a 'user suggested' their hours had them closed on Mondays. After a few minutes trying to decide where to try next without driving to the other side of the city, decided to continue my avoidance of Tens and head to the Reef.
I arrived, paid my $5 admission to the hot latina who was working the front, and went in and found a seat. At least on this trip I was able to order and receive a drink before being approached by any dancers.
First up, Sativa. She is a beautiful ebony woman who gives incredible dances on the floor. She never mentioned the champagne room to me, and I got the feeling that her mileage increases according to the person she's dancing for. As in, if I was was taller, thinner, and generally better looking (LOL) OR if she knew me better the mileage would get me further. Whatever her parameters are, I was stuck on the low end of the mid-mileage.
Next up was a short haired brunette who went by Sparkles. Nice woman, very pleasant to talk to, has a kind smile, but is rather mechanical, awkward, and a bit rough with her floor dances. Had just a couple dances from her, but enjoyed the conversation.
Last, but certainly not least, I found myself in the company of a tall blonde who introduced herself as Jess, though before she could dance for me, she got introduced to the stage as Jezebel. She has an incredible smile and I really wish I could have seen her eyes in good lighting. When she came off stage she came back and we chatted a little, then had a couple decent floor dances before heading to the CR. Now, I am a short guy, and these dancers being required to wear those awful heels gives me a complex already because of my height (or lack thereof). Walking next to a woman who is already 5'10" and then you add the extra height of her heels, made me feel very out of place, LOL. What a sight we must have made. With the heels probably put her at a full foot taller. Anyway, the mileage with her increased in the CR, but she didn't strike me as one who crosses certain boundaries, so I didn't want to push those boundaries much. I did drop a few hints about things I wish could have been on the menu, but I didn't want push it too far.
All in all, I had a decent time.
I got into to town yesterday afternoon and, after a 4 pm appointment, I decided to go check out a club. My thinking was to check one out that I hadn't been to in quite a while.
At about 6:30 I pulled into an empty parking lot at TDs East. And found a locked door. Maybe it was mentioned here and I missed it, but apparently they are closed on Mondays now. I spent a few minutes on a search to look up their phone number as if maybe they opened up later on certain days. The link I saw said they were open, but a 'user suggested' their hours had them closed on Mondays. After a few minutes trying to decide where to try next without driving to the other side of the city, decided to continue my avoidance of Tens and head to the Reef.
I arrived, paid my $5 admission to the hot latina who was working the front, and went in and found a seat. At least on this trip I was able to order and receive a drink before being approached by any dancers.
First up, Sativa. She is a beautiful ebony woman who gives incredible dances on the floor. She never mentioned the champagne room to me, and I got the feeling that her mileage increases according to the person she's dancing for. As in, if I was was taller, thinner, and generally better looking (LOL) OR if she knew me better the mileage would get me further. Whatever her parameters are, I was stuck on the low end of the mid-mileage.
Next up was a short haired brunette who went by Sparkles. Nice woman, very pleasant to talk to, has a kind smile, but is rather mechanical, awkward, and a bit rough with her floor dances. Had just a couple dances from her, but enjoyed the conversation.
Last, but certainly not least, I found myself in the company of a tall blonde who introduced herself as Jess, though before she could dance for me, she got introduced to the stage as Jezebel. She has an incredible smile and I really wish I could have seen her eyes in good lighting. When she came off stage she came back and we chatted a little, then had a couple decent floor dances before heading to the CR. Now, I am a short guy, and these dancers being required to wear those awful heels gives me a complex already because of my height (or lack thereof). Walking next to a woman who is already 5'10" and then you add the extra height of her heels, made me feel very out of place, LOL. What a sight we must have made. With the heels probably put her at a full foot taller. Anyway, the mileage with her increased in the CR, but she didn't strike me as one who crosses certain boundaries, so I didn't want to push those boundaries much. I did drop a few hints about things I wish could have been on the menu, but I didn't want push it too far.
All in all, I had a decent time.Word of recommendation is, talk to the girl out side the CR and make arrangements on what you want to get in there. The majority of these girl will tell you flat out if they play or not and what would their boundaries would be. FKINg in the CR happens all the time so don't let her tell you " Oh no, you can't do that in here or I will get fired" that's just a skim to say no I don't want to FK you. If you have already set up and agreement with her and cost you will not worry about spending too much and she will be happy with the deal too. Also this filters out those who just want to take your money or lie increasing the number or songs you were there as each song will be $20 a pop.
Also stay away from Unique. Tall blond that pretends to be German, that's the first thing she says " Hi, I am German" she will not provide what she promised. I think the last time I saw her she had added extensions to her hair making her look like Shakira with dreadlocks. Girls who will play for sure Ferrari and her sister Genavie also a tall white girl with black hair I think was Linda or Lisa always wears a girdle black but she will only suck you cock, she use to work at Venom. Also Coco, she is a dark older lady with deep voice but a banging body she is Latina I think from Dominican Republic she will fk the shit out of you. And many others that I have not had a chance to do. Just search the post and you will find names.
I saw Tatiana at Raiders yesterday. I haven't seen Sunny in a long time.Sunny is still at Venom. Doesn't seem to have a set schedule, but always seems to be there at some point on Fridays.
Sunny is currently at Venom.
Sativa will absolutely take care of you in CR.
Ferrari has been unwilling to play my last two trips in. Not sure what's up with that.
Star is now at the boat under serena or selena but easing into cr playtime.
Any updates on the above mentioned are always appreciated.
Hoping to drop into the clubs this week or next.
Be careful, safe and make the ladies moan gentlemen.
Hey guy, I spent some time on Friday at venom. Nice crowd there. Was wondering what the word on Tatiana is. Would like some play time with her. Any one have some details on her? She is smoking hot.
TheLadysMan
02-18-19, 22:58
Hey guy, I spent some time on Friday at venom. Nice crowd there. Was wondering what the word on Tatiana is. Would like some play time with her. Any one have some details on her? She is smoking hot.She is working at the boat these days.
MotorboatJones
02-19-19, 08:34
I have seen ladies named Tatiana at both Venom and the Boat. The one at Venom is heavier but still attractive. The one at the Boat is really hot and in great shape.
She is working at the boat these days.
Tecolote32
02-20-19, 18:51
Medium height thick platinum blond, fantastic ass and tits. Been trying to get me in the cabana for a while but my last 3 ventures there were meh at best aftwr very promising floor shows which turned out to be hollow. She prmised not to disappoint, and boy oh boy did she come through, pun intended. Let it be known tho, she is LOUD. There's no doubt whatsoever she could be heard over the music, and you gents know how high they blast the tunes at Venom. Got a couple attaboy looks from the guys sitting outside the cabanas, one high fived me LOL. I'm sure the sight of her following me out with her hair up and no top on was hilarious. Highly highly recommended.
Stripper Luv
02-20-19, 21:48
Medium height thick platinum blond, fantastic ass and tits. Been trying to get me in the cabana for a while but my last 3 ventures there were meh at best aftwr very promising floor shows which turned out to be hollow. She prmised not to disappoint, and boy oh boy did she come through, pun intended. Let it be known tho, she is LOUD. There's no doubt whatsoever she could be heard over the music, and you gents know how high they blast the tunes at Venom. Got a couple attaboy looks from the guys sitting outside the cabanas, one high fived me LOL. I'm sure the sight of her following me out with her hair up and no top on was hilarious. Highly highly recommended.Rate the Brandi experience on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being monger heaven).
Oral skills:
Sex:
Position variety:
Enthusiasm:
Extras (dfk, fiv, etc.):
Yes, we all have heard her. LOUD!
Tecolote32
02-21-19, 12:23
Rate the Brandi experience on a scale of 1 to 10 (10 being monger heaven).
Oral skills:
Sex:
Position variety:
Enthusiasm:
Extras (dfk, fiv, etc.):
Yes, we all have heard her. LOUD!Well lets see, extra were dfk, fiv, daty, HJ, BBBJ. Oral skills I'd give about a 7, had worse had better. Can't really comment on positions, she just rode cowgirl. Beutiful tight wet shaved pu $$why so sex is a 10. Enthisiam, def 10.
Now I had no idea at all how loud she was. Don't recall anyone saying anything about it here and nobody in the club ever said anything. I kinda realized it right away because when I first rubbed the kitty she let out a loud gasp and I knew it was only going to get worse, or maybe bettet LOL. I figuted maybe I just caught her when she was extra horny but it looks like she's that way all the time. Anyway, will def repeat.
Stripper Luv
02-21-19, 16:26
Interesting that at 1:00 Thursday afternoon Venom had just two dancers while Raiders had 10 with an 11th walking in.
TheLadysMan
02-22-19, 09:39
Interesting that at 1:00 Thursday afternoon Venom had just two dancers while Raiders had 10 with an 11th walking in.It seems that there has been a paradigm shift over the last six months. Venom needs to seriously reconsider some of the dancers that they let in the place.
Stripper Luv
02-22-19, 09:54
Royce is back at Venom and totally cabana-worthy.
Interesting that at 1:00 Thursday afternoon Venom had just two dancers while Raiders had 10 with an 11th walking in.Wednesday afternoon at Venom I saw close to a dozen dancers. From what dancers have said, I think there's no schedule; they show up if they want. Some days a bunch show up; others very few. Wednesday I got dances from Kacey, Sophie, Kash, and Briana, and there were at least six others circulating.
Wednesday afternoon at Venom I saw close to a dozen dancers. From what dancers have said, I think there's no schedule; they show up if they want. Some days a bunch show up; others very few. Wednesday I got dances from Kacey, Sophie, Kash, and Briana, and there were at least six others circulating.As independent contractors, they work when they want. Talked to one at the boat and she said she pays extra not to go on stage. She hit me up for the CR.
Also, the old VIP area at the boat is enclosed. It has bench seating and costs a lot just to get in, then another small fortune for the time inside. (Or so I was told by another dancer at the boat).
Stripper Luv
02-22-19, 15:39
Wednesday afternoon at Venom I saw close to a dozen dancers. From what dancers have said, I think there's no schedule; they show up if they want. Some days a bunch show up; others very few. Wednesday I got dances from Kacey, Sophie, Kash, and Briana, and there were at least six others circulating.Yes the dancers are independent contractors. But it's up to the manager to put and keep enough independent contractors in the club to insure proper function. It's management's failure when there are only 2 dancers working at 1:00 on a Thursday. It's management's failure when there's only one dancer at TDs East for hour after hour on any weekday.
Stripper Luv
02-22-19, 18:15
Went to Venom first. Lots of opportunity but I wasn't interested. Left after 30 minutes and went to Raiders. Lots of opportunities here as well. It didn't take long for a favorite to show up. We went to the Champaign Room. It was packed. We stood there looking around and everyone was sucking or fucking. It was like the old days at the Candy Store VIP. Eventually we found a seat and fucked our brains out.
It seems that there has been a paradigm shift over the last six months. Venom needs to seriously reconsider some of the dancers that they let in the place.I just can not imagine how management would think that anyone would want to watch hundreds of lbs of whale blubber shimmying about the pole.
I just can not imagine how management would think that anyone would want to watch hundreds of lbs of whale blubber shimmying about the pole.Venom has tried to "diversify" and, as such, has totally missed the mark. Besides hiring unappealing dancers they do nothing to promote the cabanas. The cabanas remind me of the old Hawaii Theater in City of Industry in California. That was a club that always had hot dancers and private VIP booths where anything could and did happen. With the right girls, being the only club in Tucson where you can get that kind of privacy, I see no reason why that club couldn't be jammed packed from opening to closing!
TexasMonger
02-23-19, 11:28
Royce is back at Venom and totally cabana-worthy.Royce has always been Cabana worthy. Is she still skinny or put on some weight?
Cheers.
TM.
TexasMonger
02-23-19, 11:36
Venom has tried to "diversify" and, as such, has totally missed the mark. Besides hiring unappealing dancers they do nothing to promote the cabanas. The cabanas remind me of the old Hawaii Theater in City of Industry in California. That was a club that always had hot dancers and private VIP booths where anything could and did happen. With the right girls, being the only club in Tucson where you can get that kind of privacy, I see no reason why that club couldn't be jammed packed from opening to closing!Yeah I totally agree, but the issue with Venom is not the quality or hot looking dancers, it is the attitude of the dancers there (will rob you or cheat you of time and money whenever there is an opportunity) and how management deals with it. In my all years of mongering in SC (s), the customer is always right and management always make it up to the customer when things go south. Not at Venom. Venom management turn a blind eye and allow the girls to scam. When bad things are brought up to management, the answer has always been " You are asking for illegal things" if you know what I mean. Door closed. This is why it is not the club you expect it to be. Mind you, I had my most outrageous experiences there, but I also had my most misfortunes there as well.
Cheers.
TM.
Yeah I totally agree, but the issue with Venom is not the quality or hot looking dancers, it is the attitude of the dancers there (will rob you or cheat you of time and money whenever there is an opportunity) and how management deals with it. In my all years of mongering in SC (s), the customer is always right and management always make it up to the customer when things go south. Not at Venom. Venom management turn a blind eye and allow the girls to scam. When bad things are brought up to management, the answer has always been " You are asking for illegal things" if you know what I mean. Door closed. This is why it is not the club you expect it to be. Mind you, I had my most outrageous experiences there, but I also had my most misfortunes there as well.
Cheers.
TM.That being said, what is the most I should negotiate to pay in the cabanas for the whole enchilada? I always get quoted 200 but I have buddies that say they have gotten it for as little as 100 after the cabana fee. I know the dancers pay 15 for every cabana they do.
Tecolote32
02-23-19, 21:59
Venom has tried to "diversify" Let me translate that for you: hired alot of fat black broads.
MotorboatJones
02-24-19, 03:45
I have never offered more than $100 and have never been turned down. Some girls have requested more and I have told them all, thank you. Good day. Don't be sucker and overpay.
That being said, what is the most I should negotiate to pay in the cabanas for the whole enchilada? I always get quoted 200 but I have buddies that say they have gotten it for as little as 100 after the cabana fee.
TexasMonger
02-24-19, 14:12
That being said, what is the most I should negotiate to pay in the cabanas for the whole enchilada? I always get quoted 200 but I have buddies that say they have gotten it for as little as 100 after the cabana fee. I know the dancers pay 15 for every cabana they do.I negotiate for a session within allowed Cabana time. The pay per song is a rip off and often, after you are done, and depending on the scam level of the girl, she may claim she danced 5 songs when she only did 3 or 4. When you are balls deep into her, you loose count of songs and you pay what she demands to avoid confrontation. Best thing is negotiate a value and be specific about what services you request. If she sticks to per song policy, you know she scams so move on to another one. The least I payed has been a 100 and the most has been 150 but that was for very extra special services.
Cheers.
TM.
Ikkyu Sojunn
02-24-19, 16:44
Brief stop sat at 630. Royce Tatiana Jamaica innocent and a few others that looked good. Only two that were well past "thick".
Brief stop sat at 630. Royce Tatiana Jamaica innocent and a few others that looked good. Only two that were well past "thick".Can someone please describe Innocent?
Can someone please describe Innocent?Medium complexion AA, cute face, pretty smile, nice sized breasts, in between fat / skinny, avg butt. Wears hair down or up. Not someone you would kick out of bed, but you wouldn't be dreaming about her the next day either.
Medium complexion AA, cute face, pretty smile, nice sized breasts, in between fat / skinny, avg butt. Wears hair down or up. Not someone you would kick out of bed, but you wouldn't be dreaming about her the next day either.Thanks for the detailed Intel.
Still wondering if anyone is getting any action from Ferrari in the CR at boat.
Is Phoenix worth taking back?
Stopped in venom a couple of times.
Had fun with 2 phx AA gals, sweets and sassy. Took both to the cabana.
Seniors pm for info.
Very fun.
That's all I've got for ya.
Happy hunting.
Still wondering if anyone is getting any action from Ferrari in the CR at boat.
Is Phoenix worth taking back?
Stopped in venom a couple of times.
Had fun with 2 phx AA gals, sweets and sassy. Took both to the cabana.
Seniors pm for info.
Very fun.
That's all I've got for ya.
Happy hunting.What time of day at Venom? Any small / average whites or latinas there at those times?
Stripper Luv
02-27-19, 20:16
Stopped at Raiders today. Now working there is Chanel, Star, and Paris.
Stoped at the boat yesterday. Lost of girls working and more where coming in late in the afternoon. Saw diamond, Kendra and I think her name is Claudia? She is Karen's friend from Mexico a slim and very sexy body laying with long puffy black hair. She is very aggressive on the floor but will only do a handy in the CR nothing else, same as Karen. Also saw multiple girls that worked at Venom now at the boat. This place is packed with mongers and girls.
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