Strip Club Reports

[SmokeShopJoe]

Wouldn't that depend a whole lot on the maintenence crew?I don't think it would matter I would just Bring Your Own Bleach, and sanitizing wipes at the door for everybody.

Also Just got back from venom best BJ of my life. If you get the chance seana is very worth it.

[SmokeShopJoe]

I only get to go to a club about once every three months or so. I like the Candy Store, we'll now Venom. Naturally I would like to make the most out of it when I do get to a club but it is hit or miss with the dancers I take to VIP or cabanas. I have seen members say they have a "good tip response" or a "bad tip response" and used this to choose the dancer to take to VIP. Would someone explained how I can use this to better my odds for more fun in the cabanas?I will say that If they give mr happy a handshake or acknowledge him when meeting him the odds are in your favor for a good time in the cabanas.

[AZBballFan]

I only get to go to a club about once every three months or so. I like the Candy Store, we'll now Venom. Naturally I would like to make the most out of it when I do get to a club but it is hit or miss with the dancers I take to VIP or cabanas. I have seen members say they have a "good tip response" or a "bad tip response" and used this to choose the dancer to take to VIP. Would someone explained how I can use this to better my odds for more fun in the cabanas?I know I don't post here much so take this with a grain of salt if you must, but if you go to venom and get a few dances on the floor you will find a girl who will give you what you want in the cabanas. Sometimes it is very obvious, sometimes it is just a good vibe you get. The last time I was there I was chatting with a girl on the floor about life and decided to get a couple dances. We connected well, though there was nothing explicit discussed or done on the floor. I took her back to the cabanas and right away she had my pants open for BBBJ, then BBFS (I know, I know.). I finished on my stomach, which she cleaned up with her tongue. Then swallowed. All of this came without any discussion, just a good vibe.

[ScarabReturns]

my god the place became like a pussy themed disneyworld.I believe that place actually is called Tijuana.

[Desert Rat 520]

Just a little protip for club management: when your waitresses are cuter than your dancers, you're doing it wrong.

Been highly unimpressed with the scenery at the clubs lately. I guess the landscape has changed w / the economy and season.

[Desert Rat 520]

Just wanted to offer a warning to patrons at Curves. There's a young, petite, short slender Caucasian brunette w / a butterfly tattoo on her lower back, and curly hair down to her shoulder blades (never properly heard her stage name because it was too loud. Something like Joanna); she says she cleans houses during the day, and dances at night. She likes to play the innocent, shy, ditzy drunk girl game. Implies that if you take her to VIP, you might get some take-out later.

I cannot stand the VIP section at Curves (the black lights make me feel sick) so we went to the couches on the other end, close to the entrance. Unfortunately, there was another dancer and customer in there, as well (important detail for later).

I bought her a couple drinks, had a couple decent dances. And then she started her hustle:

First she does the 'ol: "I drank too much, I have to pee *giggle*" routine. She gets up to go to the bathroom, but instead of going to the bathroom, she goes to the back office for about 5 minutes.

I have a drink myself, and she gets back and we have a couple more dances.

Then she claims she "has to pee again". Riiight.

This time, she went out back with a friend.

When she gets back, she asks how many dances we've done. Again, she plays the ditzy drunk girl who cannot remember, and lowballs the number to entice me to get more dances. I planned on a couple more, anyways, so we get 2 more.

I tell her I have to get going, and again she plays the drunk ditz, saying she cannot remember how many dancers we had, because she was "just so into it". Riiight.

Then she says, "we did about 10 dances, right? It's $20 a dance back here, so you owe me $200.

Amazing how quickly she became a math whiz.

I say, "yeah, I don't think so, sweetheart. " It isn't wise to try to bullshit numbers with a guy who crunches numbers for a living, and has a photographic memory.

So she goes to the bouncer for a count. Mr bouncer was apparently counting by song, not dance, and tells me I owe for 12.

I call bullshit, and the guy says I cannot leave until I pay, and calls over the manager. The other patron overheard the conversation, and starts telling him how I spent most of my time just sitting around waiting on the dancer, and that it was impossible that I owed that much because he'd been in there longer than me, and didn't owe that much yet. Luckily, I'm on good terms with the manager, who I've talked with over a long period of time. When I briefly mentioned the dancer's couple of shots of vodka during me account of the night to the manager, the conversation came to a sudden conclusion. I paid what I owed and went home for a well-needed night's sleep.

For the first time ever, I am grateful that there was another customer in that lounge with me.

Long story short: this isn't the first time I've run into this scam. I'd wager that the bouncers and dancers have their own little hustles going on together. Watch your wallets, gentlemen.

[Member #4572]

Just wanted to offer a warning to patrons at Curves. There's a young, petite, short slender Caucasian brunette w / a butterfly tattoo on her lower back, and curly hair down to her shoulder blades (never properly heard her stage name because it was too loud. Something like Joanna); she says she cleans houses during the day, and dances at night. She likes to play the innocent, shy, ditzy drunk girl game. Implies that if you take her to VIP, you might get some take-out later.

I cannot stand the VIP section at Curves (the black lights make me feel sick) so we went to the couches on the other end, close to the entrance. Unfortunately, there was another dancer and customer in there, as well (important detail for later).

I bought her a couple drinks, had a couple decent dances. And then she started her hustle:

First she does the 'ol: "I drank too much, I have to pee *giggle*" routine. She gets up to go to the bathroom, but instead of going to the bathroom, she goes to the back office for about 5 minutes.

I have a drink myself, and she gets back and we have a couple more dances.

Then she claims she "has to pee again". Riiight.

This time, she went out back with a friend.

When she gets back, she asks how many dances we've done. Again, she plays the ditzy drunk girl who cannot remember, and lowballs the number to entice me to get more dances. I planned on a couple more, anyways, so we get 2 more.

I tell her I have to get going, and again she plays the drunk ditz, saying she cannot remember how many dancers we had, because she was "just so into it". Riiight.

Then she says, "we did about 10 dances, right? It's $20 a dance back here, so you owe me $200.

Amazing how quickly she became a math whiz.

I say, "yeah, I don't think so, sweetheart. " It isn't wise to try to bullshit numbers with a guy who crunches numbers for a living, and has a photographic memory.

So she goes to the bouncer for a count. Mr bouncer was apparently counting by song, not dance, and tells me I owe for 12.

I call bullshit, and the guy says I cannot leave until I pay, and calls over the manager. The other patron overheard the conversation, and starts telling him how I spent most of my time just sitting around waiting on the dancer, and that it was impossible that I owed that much because he'd been in there longer than me, and didn't owe that much yet. Luckily, I'm on good terms with the manager, who I've talked with over a long period of time. When I briefly mentioned the dancer's couple of shots of vodka during me account of the night to the manager, the conversation came to a sudden conclusion. I paid what I owed and went home for a well-needed night's sleep.

For the first time ever, I am grateful that there was another customer in that lounge with me.

Long story short: this isn't the first time I've run into this scam. I'd wager that the bouncers and dancers have their own little hustles going on together. Watch your wallets, gentlemen.She's trying to pay her way through school. And has little mouths to feed. And possibly a habit as well. So hey man, cut her some slack dude! Riiight! Thanks for the heads up even though I don't frequent strip clubs in Tucson. Now if I were back in the Tampa / St. Pete area; that's the land of plenty!

[CuteAndCoo2]

Both clubs are charging for not just dances in the Champagne room, but for sitting down time too. You sit for 2 and she dances for 3, then owe for 5 dances. Scam.

[jymjim]

Both clubs are charging for not just dances in the Champagne room, but for sitting down time too. You sit for 2 and she dances for 3, then owe for 5 dances. Scam.I heard about this dumb new rule at Raider's a few months ago from one of my favorite dancers, Heather, she didn't like it either as we are used to taking a chat break between dances back in the VIP, but that "On the clock" attitude, $20/ dance, + the bouncer checking alot, and finally the 2 minute songs (maybe 2:30, never over 3:00) made me decide to stop going there altogether. I wonder how dead it is and if the sober customers notice the bad changes. I used to go during days, so it was pretty slow anyway, you'd think the management would want to make the customers happy, not at Raider's at least.

J.

[AzTransplant]

I heard about this dumb new rule at Raider's a few months ago from one of my favorite dancers, Heather, she didn't like it either as we are used to taking a chat break between dances back in the VIP, but that "On the clock" attitude, $20/ dance, + the bouncer checking alot, and finally the 2 minute songs (maybe 2:30, never over 3:00) made me decide to stop going there altogether. I wonder how dead it is and if the sober customers notice the bad changes. I used to go during days, so it was pretty slow anyway, you'd think the management would want to make the customers happy, not at Raider's at least.

J.No doubt stopped going there just based on the fact that a manager is poking his head in ever two effing seconds and one can't get any playtime.

[Teepee12]

Never was any good in my experience, only good looking.Is she at Venom now during the day?

[jwny72]

They open at 6 am weekdays now. I decided to go after breakfast to check it out. I was one of two clients in the place. Not that many dancers, but what few there were were very attentive (handsy) and eager to please. Nice, early morning getting off to be enjoyed.

[AzTransplant]

They open at 6 am weekdays now. I decided to go after breakfast to check it out. I was one of two clients in the place. Not that many dancers, but what few there were were very attentive (handsy) and eager to please. Nice, early morning getting off to be enjoyed.What kind of mileage was to be had at what cost range?

[CuteAndCoo2]

What kind of mileage was to be had at what cost range?I just heard that they changed the morning shift to 8 am opening. And the East club is suppose to reopen in February at some point.

[CuteAndCoo2]

I know that there has been a lot of talk about Sugar at Venom. Then she disappeared for a bit. Well, it looks like she has reappeared at the Boat. It looked like she was trying to get her job back. I will post if I hear of anything. And of anyone else hears of anything, please post. Be safe. Play safe. Especially with her.

[Teepee12]

Had been to the CS and was nearby so stopped by Venom today. Wow. I'm from out of town and only here a few months a year. Normally spend my $ and Curves. Anyway, only had about half hour, stopped in Venom, was approached by Danni and about 10 minutes later was in the cabana. Amazing BJ. Very sexy lady. There were a bunch of other hotties there too. What a great setup!

[NicoleJerled]

Had been to the CS and was nearby so stopped by Venom today. Wow. I'm from out of town and only here a few months a year. Normally spend my $ and Curves. Anyway, only had about half hour, stopped in Venom, was approached by Danni and about 10 minutes later was in the cabana. Amazing BJ. Very sexy lady. There were a bunch of other hotties there too. What a great setup!Don't mention what woman do on here and their names that is just asking for trouble, please.

[Member #4572]

Don't mention what woman do on here and their names that is just asking for trouble, please.This same exact point was raised a while back on the Tampa board and a monger came up with a probable solution I'll share with you fine gentlemen. There's always been a lot of debate about sharing too much detail on the boards because of possible LE monitoring. I agree and disagree. BP providers have their methods to verify; whether they actually matter (in the legal sense) is also subject to debate. So sharing info on providers and SW's (because it's more than obvious to patrol LE anyway) should be fair game. Strippers feel you out figuratively and literally to see if they can trust you. But when cops suspect illegal activities in clubs, they just raid the place without malice. Which in turn causes the club to either close or take additional measures to ensure shit stays legit. But the truth is, as I mentioned in a past post, if any inference to illegal activities is mentioned in a post is cause for undercover to visit the girl to set up a take down. So to circumvent exposing these girls I suggest something to this effect. "I stopped by Venum last night and enjoyed myself." This simple statement infers that they got more than just a dance. Then the member who posted should only provide desired info to TRUSTED members for which girl / s he had the good time with. I know, this is not the end all to be all solution. It would sure make LE's job a lot more difficult. Any thoughts?

[jwny72]

What kind of mileage was to be had at what cost range?Well, my experience was that when I went to the stage to tip the other morning, the dancers handled my junk, and skillfully used buttocks as hands in an ultra pleasing manner, for an extended period while I was standing at the stage. I wear thin athletic shorts with nothing underneath, and I could have nutted right there if inclined. .

I didn't go to a VIP area, or inquire about extras or takeout. Got ordinary couch dances from a couple of dancers, both of whom were more than willing to get the job done (took care to stroke and caress my junk, essentially masturbating me in my pants, using hands, mouth and buttocks). Both were happy to make me cum, without taking my junk out of my shorts.

My strategy in all of this is to dress appropriately (super thin shorts) and let the dancer take the reins and go where she wants with my obvious boner (many try to get me off manually and by twerking it while using their hands too, and I never ask them to). If I get off, and the girl knows it and was an active participant in making it happen, I pay double the going rate for the number of dances it took. If I get blown or fucked (and dancers sometimes initiate those things, most often in a VIP area) I like to leave the girl with $100, even if it was just 3 songs.

Of course, YMMV, but I've had a lot of fun over the years without asking for what I was given in many cases.


I just heard that they changed the morning shift to 8 am opening. And the East club is suppose to reopen in February at some point.I guess I was there around 9, so this may have happened already.

[SmokeShopJoe]

What is to keep LE from creating a profile that looks legit, they have more information about the sex industry than any one of us. So if you get a pm from a senior member how does one know if they are or aren't LE. Secondly that would be a lovely method if more people would actually respond to PM's. LEO's love to investigate strip clubs because that means they get to spend weeks hanging out at strip clubs looking at naked women, getting lap daces and getting them to say compromising / do things all while getting paid to drink booze. I will garner a guess LE only raids clubs when they have had way too many complaints about disruption to the local area, such as shootings in parking lots, or a load of junkies buying and selling and steeling in the area. The one place that I feel might be the exception is by the air port as Tucson has a thing about protecting its image. If the forum community was a more forth coming with the PM's and less open about things in posts I agree it would be better for all of us. The amount of flack I got suggesting that we should keep to the $ . 4 method of price disclosure makes me think that it is a loosing battle. Also according to media reports and press releases Tucson has dissolved their vice squad and reallocated those duties to local zones (Precinct) which means that the budget for such activities will come out of the zone and is much more at the discretion of the zones captain.

Here's the real thing about LE that applies to ALL of their enforcement making decisions, they have in the grand scheme of things they have a neigh infinite budget to investigate things, next to no deadlines, and they have to occasionally show the public that they are protecting them and doing good for them. This is even more the case on the federal level. I was at a couple of non titty bars talking to the bartenders and what TPD / PCSD have been doing lately is going in and making sure that all patrons have their I'd's on them as liquor law states that you must be able to show I'd to the bar at any time or they can not serve you and you must leave. Undoubtedly this would be their first line of attack on a club. I spent several years teaching martial art having many LE students. After hearing their stories learning how they think and how they just bend laws. There is next to nothing you can do to stop them if they want something to happen it will.

[Member #4572]

What is to keep LE from creating a profile that looks legit, they have more information about the sex industry than any one of us. So if you get a pm from a senior member how does one know if they are or aren't LE. Secondly that would be a lovely method if more people would actually respond to PM's. LEO's love to investigate strip clubs because that means they get to spend weeks hanging out at strip clubs looking at naked women, getting lap daces and getting them to say compromising / do things all while getting paid to drink booze. I will garner a guess LE only raids clubs when they have had way too many complaints about disruption to the local area, such as shootings in parking lots, or a load of junkies buying and selling and steeling in the area. The one place that I feel might be the exception is by the air port as Tucson has a thing about protecting its image. If the forum community was a more forth coming with the PM's and less open about things in posts I agree it would be better for all of us. The amount of flack I got suggesting that we should keep to the $ . 4 method of price disclosure makes me think that it is a loosing battle. Also according to media reports and press releases Tucson has dissolved their vice squad and reallocated those duties to local zones (Precinct) which means that the budget for such activities will come out of the zone and is much more at the discretion of the zones captain.

Here's the real thing about LE that applies to ALL of their enforcement making decisions, they have in the grand scheme of things they have a neigh infinite budget to investigate things, next to no deadlines, and they have to occasionally show the public that they are protecting them and doing good for them. This is even more the case on the federal level. I was at a couple of non titty bars talking to the bartenders and what TPD / PCSD have been doing lately is going in and making sure that all patrons have their I'd's on them as liquor law states that you must be able to show I'd to the bar at any time or they can not serve you and you must leave. Undoubtedly this would be their first line of attack on a club. I spent several years teaching martial art having many LE students. After hearing their stories learning how they think and how they just bend laws. There is next to nothing you can do to stop them if they want something to happen it will.In reference to your comments: "So if you get a pm from a senior member how does one know if they are or aren't LE. Secondly that would be a lovely method if more people would actually respond to PM's. " First comment, I mentioned "TRUSTED" providers that have written truthful (verified / confirmed with other members on this board) reviews in the past. Not necessarily "senior" members. Some senior members sometimes don't post an 'experience' but once a year or more. They also could be cops fishing for info. In regards to your second comment: I whole-heartedly agree with you there. But what I've learned is that most members don't get on the forum until they're ready to spend some money. So it could be a month or more before they even notice that a PM was sent. Now if you've seen that they've posted and still not replied, then that's a different story. On a side note, PLEASE try and report here ASAP after your 'experience' because some of these girls come and go so quickly. Happy humping fellas.

[Desert Rat 520]

The other day, I overheard a couple guys in a bar talking about a "private" strip club somewhere in the downtown area. I think they said near the convention center?

I've never heard of such a place in Tucson. Anyone know anything about it?

[Sting10]

Went to Curves last night with a friend. I decide to get a dance from a blonde Latina named Jenny. We go to the VIP where the dances are $20 per song. I get 2 dances from her and pay her $45. She tells me I still owe her money. Now I was completely sober and counted 2 songs. I tell her only 2 songs had played and she responds no 5 songs have played. I say bullshit and go to find a manager. The manager with short blonde hair and glasses says 4 songs have played. At this point I know they're just trying to hustle me so I go to my friend and ask him how many songs have played while I was back there. He tells me only 2 as well. I was back there 5 to 7 minutes at most. The manager says I can either pay her for 4 songs which would be $80 or we could leave. I say fuck it let's leave. The stripper Jenny then hits my friend as he's chugging his beer right in front of the manager. She gets in about 3 hits before the manager decides to hold her back. We end up leaving without retaliating in any way. I don't know why she hit my friend instead of me since I'm the one that got the 2 dances from her. Now I would've gladly payed her for 4 or 5 songs if I had indeed received that many dances because the 2 dances I got from her were good but I'm 99.9% sure that only 2 songs had played while I was back there. Has anyone ever had an experience like this at Curves?

[CuteAndCoo2]

Went to Curves last night with a friend. I decide to get a dance from a blonde Latina named Jenny. We go to the VIP where the dances are $20 per song. I get 2 dances from her and pay her $45. She tells me I still owe her money. Now I was completely sober and counted 2 songs. I tell her only 2 songs had played and she responds no 5 songs have played. I say bullshit and go to find a manager. The manager with short blonde hair and glasses says 4 songs have played. At this point I know they're just trying to hustle me so I go to my friend and ask him how many songs have played while I was back there. He tells me only 2 as well. I was back there 5 to 7 minutes at most. The manager says I can either pay her for 4 songs which would be $80 or we could leave. I say fuck it let's leave. The stripper Jenny then hits my friend as he's chugging his beer right in front of the manager. She gets in about 3 hits before the manager decides to hold her back. We end up leaving without retaliating in any way. I don't know why she hit my friend instead of me since I'm the one that got the 2 dances from her. Now I would've gladly payed her for 4 or 5 songs if I had indeed received that many dances because the 2 dances I got from her were good but I'm 99.9% sure that only 2 songs had played while I was back there. Has anyone ever had an experience like this at Curves?This unfortunately has been happening regularly at all of the clubs. There is only the CurvesRaiders clubs that count every single song that the dancers do any where in the club. And the manager and normally a bouncer are counting the dances at the same time on busier says. With the exhibit still not doing well it has been a very normal way of hustling the customer. As one song, ad two songs, and in some cases like this, adding threw songs.

[AzTransplant]

This unfortunately has been happening regularly at all of the clubs. There is only the CurvesRaiders clubs that count every single song that the dancers do any where in the club. And the manager and normally a bouncer are counting the dances at the same time on busier says. With the exhibit still not doing well it has been a very normal way of hustling the customer. As one song, ad two songs, and in some cases like this, adding threw songs.This is one of the things I like about the current setup for VIP at Venom. You pay the doorman / dj for an amount of time in the cabana say 15 or 30 minutes. This makes it ver easy to be able to estimate the number of dances that have occurred during your VIP. Not mention the girls in this place are generally looking for a flat fee for a service.

AZT.

[RedTail]

I had a run in with Jenny a year ago at Curves. Good looking blonde Latina, told me she also dances in El Paso. After 2 songs she tells me it's been 4. I ended up paying her for 3 I think? I have not seen her since then and if I ever do I will talk to the manager about her. Not sure if I posted about her here a year ago but I know I included the details in a review on another site I also frequent.

Stay away from this blonde latina. She also promised extras in VIP which of course never materialized.


Went to Curves last night with a friend. I decide to get a dance from a blonde Latina named Jenny. We go to the VIP where the dances are $20 per song. I get 2 dances from her and pay her $45. She tells me I still owe her money. Now I was completely sober and counted 2 songs. I tell her only 2 songs had played and she responds no 5 songs have played. I say bullshit and go to find a manager. The manager with short blonde hair and glasses says 4 songs have played. At this point I know they're just trying to hustle me so I go to my friend and ask him how many songs have played while I was back there. He tells me only 2 as well. I was back there 5 to 7 minutes at most. The manager says I can either pay her for 4 songs which would be $80 or we could leave. I say fuck it let's leave. The stripper Jenny then hits my friend as he's chugging his beer right in front of the manager. She gets in about 3 hits before the manager decides to hold her back. We end up leaving without retaliating in any way. I don't know why she hit my friend instead of me since I'm the one that got the 2 dances from her. Now I would've gladly payed her for 4 or 5 songs if I had indeed received that many dances because the 2 dances I got from her were good but I'm 99.9% sure that only 2 songs had played while I was back there. Has anyone ever had an experience like this at Curves?

[AzTransplant]

I had a run in with Jenny a year ago at Curves. Good looking blonde Latina, told me she also dances in El Paso. After 2 songs she tells me it's been 4. I ended up paying her for 3 I think? I have not seen her since then and if I ever do I will talk to the manager about her. Not sure if I posted about her here a year ago but I know I included the details in a review on another site I also frequent.

Stay away from this blonde latina. She also promised extras in VIP which of course never materialized.The question is, who isn't a rob at Curves. That whole place is a rip off.

[ScarabReturns]

The question is, who isn't a rob at Curves. That whole place is a rip off.Hello, it is a strip club. It has been as carefully set up to separate you from your hard earned money as a casino!

[CuteAndCoo2]

Hello, it is a strip club. It has been as carefully set up to separate you from your hard earned money as a casino. !And convenient ATM locations like the Casinos too. One when you enter the club. One technically at the bar, and one when you leave the Players Lounge and Champagne room. I forgot the VIP by the front door as you enter. I wish that I owned those machines, but of course the club owns those. I'm still waiting for the dancers to start carrying the Square device that you attatch to the phone. But this would leave a paper trail. They can't have that. Be safe. Play safe.

[CuteAndCoo2]

Hello, it is a strip club. It has been as carefully set up to separate you from your hard earned money as a casino. !And convenient ATM locations like the Casinos too. One when you enter the club. One technically at the bar, and one when you leave the Players Lounge and Champagne room. I forgot the VIP by the front door as you enter. I wish that I owned those machines, but of course the club owns those. I'm still waiting for the dancers to start carrying the Square device that you attatch to the phone. But this would leave a paper trail. They can't have that. Be safe. Play safe. And only bring the amount of money you are willing to lose. Just like the casino.

[Dennis1234]

BTW to those that emailed I plan to get back to everybody. Been super busy and not logged on.

RE: TDs. I went there to check out the scene. There is a Latina that comes supposedly once a month from Miami.

Her body is frigging unbelievable. It honestly looks photo shopped if you didn't see it in person. I am almost certain.

She has pics on the internet that other girls use in ads. Anyway her ass is freaking huge. The waist is tiny. I didn't partake.

But I heard she asks for over 1 k for takeout. It would be worth it one time if could afford it. It is a once in a lifetime ass. Face is.

Gorgeous by the way. Best body of all time if you like the ultimate hour glass figure. My buddy said it best. He said she made.

Kim Kardashian look like a flat ass. That is not a lie.

[AzTransplant]

Hello, it is a strip club. It has been as carefully set up to separate you from your hard earned money as a casino!Well no doubt about that, I can not disagree, you are 100 percent correct Scarab. But my particular point is that Curves, of all the titty club in this city is a rip. Huge prices, with little to chance of fun to be had. Ten years ago you could get fucked there. Really not the case any longer. Any of the other clubs in town one can still get action in the place. Even TD east, before the fire, was pricey, but if you went to the VIP lounge you were at least getting a BBBJ, if not pussy.

I realize that some mongerers aren't looking for that, but for me the fun has always been the challenge of turning out a dancer who proclaims they have never done such a thing in the club before. A few over the years I have believed. Most though there is little chance that mine was the first cock ever to be partaken of at the club.

AZT.

[JdcTucson]

BTW to those that emailed I plan to get back to everybody. Been super busy and not logged on.

RE: TDs. I went there to check out the scene. There is a Latina that comes supposedly once a month from Miami.

Her body is frigging unbelievable. It honestly looks photo shopped if you didn't see it in person. I can attest to this. Her ass was ridiculous. Went in last Saturday 07/12/14 and had to double take as she walked by. I didn't see her on stage or talk to her. She definitely stuck out like a sore thumb compared to anyone else in there that afternoon.

[CuteAndCoo2]

I went a few says ago to Novembers and the owner has hired a few new cuties. One comes from Venom and the other just started less than a month ago. I get paid this Friday so I will be venturing there over the weekend. And a little side note, don't forget about the free street car rides this weekend. Be safe. Play safe.

[Az Headhunter]

I went a few says ago to Novembers and the owner has hired a few new cuties. One comes from Venom and the other just started less than a month ago. I get paid this Friday so I will be venturing there over the weekend. And a little side note, don't forget about the free street car rides this weekend. Be safe. Play safe.I thought that place had been closed down. I get into that area 1-2 times a month, I've never seen any cars in the parking lot.

[CuteAndCoo2]

I thought that place had been closed down. I get into that area 1-2 times a month, I've never seen any cars in the parking lot.They are opened every day except Sunday. They usually open from 6;30 pm till 2 am. It's still opened. They have drink specials fromopen to 9 pm I think. It's a local bikini bar. Enjoy. Be safe. Play safe.

[EbonyLvver]

Soo ill be traveling back to Arizona and thought about driving up to Phx to visit some of my fav clubs, but after review some of the posts seems like I might better off just staying in town. I was EXTREMELY disappointed last time I went to Venom, but it seems like I should give it another try. Also was thinking about TD and Novembers. Ill post my exp once I'm leaving town. ALSO if any member wouldn't mind PM'img me some advice if one of these clubs should be avoided. I can also pass on info and numbers if your ever in Denver or Phx.

[AzTransplant]

Soo ill be traveling back to Arizona and thought about driving up to Phx to visit some of my fav clubs, but after review some of the posts seems like I might better off just staying in town. I was EXTREMELY disappointed last time I went to Venom, but it seems like I should give it another try. Also was thinking about TD and Novembers. Ill post my exp once I'm leaving town. ALSO if any member wouldn't mind PM'img me some advice if one of these clubs should be avoided. I can also pass on info and numbers if your ever in Denver or Phx.Well I'd say that Novembers in general should be avoided as it is a bikini bar at best. Td East of course has burned down leaving the west club, but based on your handle I'll assume you might enjoy their selection of ladies. Venom is still probably the best in town for playtime in the cabanas.

AZT.

[Az Headhunter]

Was in there Wed. From about 2:00 to 3:30. Most of the girls were average looking at best, but it seemed like they were all hungry and mileage could be had from almost all of them. I'm sure the fact that it was the end of the month had something to do with it. The main thing that stopped me was, when I was on the smoking patio, one of the dancers came out and started yelling (playfully) at three others about how it was all their fault that she had just started her period. Then their discussion turned to how many others had just started. On a high note. My phone rang while I was there, and I jumped up to go outside to answer it. A minute later, a dancer named Lisa came outside and handed me my wallet that I'd left in my chair. Absolutely nothing missing out of it. I tipped her for it and made sure the manager knew about it.

[SmokeShopJoe]

A minute later, a dancer named Lisa came outside and handed me my wallet that I'd left in my chair. Absolutely nothing missing out of it. I tipped her for it and made sure the manager knew about it.So they are not all thieving bastards? Hmm I guess there is a glimmer of hope for humanity.

[Uncivil]

During my time working doors at various strip clubs, here's what I can tell you about people that work in that field (not just dancers, but bouncers, waitresses, bartenders, managers, owners, whatever).

There are some good people in that line of work, but they are VERY, VERY rare. And, those people don't last long that business. It is why I didn't make it in that business. To succeed in that world you have to be an ugly person with an ugly heart, with no conscience or soul, and not have any sort of regard for people other than the contents of their wallet.

AZ Headhunter, I have no doubt whatsoever that your heart was in the right place when you told the manager that she gave you back your wallet, and I am not faulting you for doing so. However, it will probably result in unintended consequences. Either that would have scored her zero points and clout with the manager and or the club, or that particular manager will from here on out see her as "weak" and do whatever he can to exploit her.

Under normal circumstances I would say one would have to be absolutely insane to ask to see a dancer on a social basis outside of the club. However, in this particular case, I recommend you go back and take a shot at it. It seems as if this particular girl "Lisa" is special, and doesn't belong in that world. You might be her savior, and she might give you something special in return (not just talking about the sex, here).

Hell, I might go and look her up.


So they are not all thieving bastards? Hmm I guess there is a glimmer of hope for humanity.

[TaterTot75]

I have known Lisa for a while now and she is great person. I only know her in the club but I would see her outside if she wanted.


Was in there Wed. From about 2:00 to 3:30. Most of the girls were average looking at best, but it seemed like they were all hungry and mileage could be had from almost all of them. I'm sure the fact that it was the end of the month had something to do with it. The main thing that stopped me was, when I was on the smoking patio, one of the dancers came out and started yelling (playfully) at three others about how it was all their fault that she had just started her period. Then their discussion turned to how many others had just started. On a high note. My phone rang while I was there, and I jumped up to go outside to answer it. A minute later, a dancer named Lisa came outside and handed me my wallet that I'd left in my chair. Absolutely nothing missing out of it. I tipped her for it and made sure the manager knew about it.

[CapAndCoke]

Hey can anyone tell me somthing about linda at venom?

[CuteAndCoo2]

I did the little strip club circuit yesterday early afternoon. I started out at Venom. I was actually pretty surprised that it was actually pretty busy. But out was Friday, and the first of the month. And of course there were a ton of dancers there to try and make rent. There was a nice mix of ladies to choose from. The unfortunate part when I got there was that all my favorite seats were taken. And a few of the new ones that I met out in the smoking section. As I sat down I was just jumping in on a conversation already in progress. One of the ladies was gay, but in there just to make moneymoney. This actually is not what I like. I actually like to get the feeling that both of us are enjoying ourselves. Not for just me. Weird I know. I became a tad bored and decided to head to Raiders. I can usually find something three to get myself into. When I got there the parking area was packed. I ventured in anyway. And again, all my saboteur places to sit were taken. And all of the chairs were taken, but just a few. I decided it was to busy for my, . So I Sorry nothing really to report. I prefer early during the day. And not on the 1st day of the month. Enjoy.

[Az Headhunter]

During my time working doors at various strip clubs, here's what I can tell you about people that work in that field (not just dancers, but bouncers, waitresses, bartenders, managers, owners, whatever).

There are some good people in that line of work, but they are VERY, VERY rare. And, those people don't last long that business. It is why I didn't make it in that business. To succeed in that world you have to be an ugly person with an ugly heart, with no conscience or soul, and not have any sort of regard for people other than the contents of their wallet.

AZ Headhunter, I have no doubt whatsoever that your heart was in the right place when you told the manager that she gave you back your wallet, and I am not faulting you for doing so. However, it will probably result in unintended consequences. Either that would have scored her zero points and clout with the manager and or the club, or that particular manager will from here on out see her as "weak" and do whatever he can to exploit her.

Under normal circumstances I would say one would have to be absolutely insane to ask to see a dancer on a social basis outside of the club. However, in this particular case, I recommend you go back and take a shot at it. It seems as if this particular girl "Lisa" is special, and doesn't belong in that world. You might be her savior, and she might give you something special in return (not just talking about the sex, here).

Hell, I might go and look her up.I can appreciate what you're saying, but I've worked the door in a few strip clubs too, though it was a long time ago. I dated a few dancers then, and it just not something I'd do again, at least not seriously. Call it a personal rule.

[Uncivil]

i can appreciate what you're saying, but i've worked the door in a few strip clubs too, though it was a long time ago. i dated a few dancers then, and it just not something i'd do again, at least not seriously. call it a personal rule.off-topic rant to follow. this rant will contain no useful information and reading it is optional.

my time working doors was a long time ago, also (though probably not long enough). i had dancers flirt with me, but i always knew that most of them had ulterior motives for doing so. the few dancers that might have actually been interested in me lost interest when they learned that i wasn't into the drug scene.

i might have been the only doorman at any club i ever worked where i was there just to do my job and get paid. i wasn't there for the girls. i wasn't there to participate in the drug business. i wasn't there to take bribes to let **** kids in the door or to break any other liquor laws. i wasn't there for anything else. i just wanted to do my job, get my money, go home and go to sleep so i could work my day job the next day. and, when i say "get my money", i mean i had no tolerance for a dancer or bartender who wasn't tipping out the doormen their cut, or other doormen not giving their proper split in a club that had a "tip-pool" situation. i wasn't a charity. i was there for the money, not for fun the other perks or fringe benefits. i didn't realize it at the time, but looking back now i can see that my no-bullshit approach, and my "being straight" probably made me a target for most people who worked there, and that's why i could never succeed in that business. in the bar business, like so many others, you're only as successful as the management wants you to be.

if i had it to do over again, i would never work a door. yeah, at that time i needed some part-time work to supplement my income. but, i would find a different way to make that happen. fortunately for me today i am in a situation at my day job where i'm financially doing alright and do not need a second job to get by.

i've been to a few strip clubs since i quit, maybe one visit every two or three years. but, those visits are always very brief. when i do walk in to a club, i am reminded of all the ugliness i witnessed during my time working in that business, and i finish my drink and leave reminded of why i hadn't visited for so long in the first place.

the morale of the story, for anyone who made it this far: take care of the doormen, and they will appreciate you and take care of you as best they can. i can assure you of that.

[AzMaleSlut]

So I was on vacation this weekend and due to a travel snafu, I didn't get home until just a couple off hours before I'd have to get up to go to work. I decided to take another day of PTO, and hit Venom in the afternoon. Turns out this was a good idea. Sat down a bit away from the stage, on the cabana side. Watched a couple of dances, and got a drink before I was approached for a dance. Very cute gal, spinner, several tats. She sat with me while waiting for the next song and we chatted about work and school. My work, her school. She is studying to be a phlebotomist, though she'd rather do hair. Then the Dance began and, as I suspected, I wanted to take her to the cabana. So when the Dance was done and she asked if I wanted another, I asked if there was someplace more private we could go. So away we went. 20 to the dj to get the cabana, then the fun began. Long story short. Fiv and gripping me through my shorts got us both off. Got her digits and definitely plan to give her a call as soon as I have the chance!

[EbonyLvver]

First off thanks to all the members who PM me and answered my questions. After taking some advice from some senior members I took off to venom (almost as soon as my plane landed). It was during the day so there wasn't that many people there. The dances were pretty cheap 10 $ so I got a couple from different dancers. If there were aggressive and very hands on during the dance I was ready to take them to the cabanas, but sadly the dancer who was very hands on seem to be more into her phone and smoking with her friends than making money. She claimed she would be right back but never came back so I left. I tried again later that night and WOW I was SOOO SURPRISED. I saw a bunch of sexy ladies, but I went for the ebonies. I got a dance from a dancer who names escapes me, but she gave a very hands on dance and off to the cabanas we went. It was a very good exp and I was shocked that her price was only. 80 for 15 minutes. After taking another girl to the cabanas I had to call it a night and left.

I would return a few days later on Saturday and as soon as I sat down came a SUPER Skinny Latina who is about 6 feet tall with heels on. (BEWARE) I should've known when she charged me 20 dollars for 1 floor dance, but I paid since she stuck her hands down my pants during the dance without me saying anything. I took her to the cabanas and it was down hill from there. She tells me its $ for 15 minutes. , I paid her and as soon as the second dance was over she said for her to keep going it would another $, but she hinted I could get anything I wanted. I was SOOOO mad I jumped up threw the 100 at her and walked out. I sat back down and ordered a beer to relax and she comes over and asks if I'm upset and I said yup and her response was "go ahead and talk shit about me" If I remembered her name I would POST it in a hurry. I was about to walk out when I saw my fav from thhe 1st night who was working and quickly asked her for a dance. She was perfect and gave me another wonderful time in the cabanas. I even tipped her another 20 $ to dance some more for me. Some girls at this club are AMAZING and really go the extra mile to make sure your happy, but like everything there are some bad apples. Beware from the Skinny tall latina girl and enjoy this awesome club that you fellas have. When I return ill try TD's,but after my 1st exp at venom I found it hard to go anywhere else.

[Tucson Player]

I am looking for some strippers for a bachelor party? Anyone know of an agency in Tucson or someone they know?

TP.

[CuteAndCoo2]

I am looking for some strippers for a bachelor party? Anyone know of an agency in Tucson or someone they know?

TP.The easiest way to find strippers for your bachelor party is to go directly to the source, strip clubs. The ladies are horrible planners so I would have a contingency plan if the 1st one happens to fail. But why hire any agency in this town? Just go to the source. I will PM you on a few ladies at Curves that can make it happen. Chat soon.

[Tucson Player]

The easiest way to find strippers for your bachelor party is to go directly to the source, strip clubs. The ladies are horrible planners so I would have a contingency plan if the 1st one happens to fail. But why hire any agency in this town? Just go to the source. I will PM you on a few ladies at Curves that can make it happen. Chat soon.Looking forward to your PM. Thanks again.

TP.

[DesertBeachBum]

Does anyone have intel on what happened to any of the old TD's East daytime girls? Specifically I'm curious as to where Mariah or Scarlett ended up, but if you know about any of the white / latina girls I'd be interested (can't remember any other names offhand). Thanks!

[Steve PA]

Does anyone have intel on what happened to any of the old TD's East daytime girls? Specifically I'm curious as to where Mariah or Scarlett ended up, but if you know about any of the white / latina girls I'd be interested (can't remember any other names offhand). Thanks!Club November has made some new hires. Not sure where they are from?

[AzTransplant]

Does anyone have intel on what happened to any of the old TD's East daytime girls? Specifically I'm curious as to where Mariah or Scarlett ended up, but if you know about any of the white / latina girls I'd be interested (can't remember any other names offhand). Thanks!4 or 5 months ago Mariah was at the boat.

AZT.

[jymjim]

Does anyone have intel on what happened to any of the old TD's East daytime girls? Specifically I'm curious as to where Mariah or Scarlett ended up, but if you know about any of the white / latina girls I'd be interested (can't remember any other names offhand). Thanks!A few are at Venom, a few at TD West, I'm trying to find Destiny (Blonde, curvey) myself she was at Venom for a few months and who knows where last few weeks.

J.

[Az Headhunter]

A few are at Venom, a few at TD West, I'm trying to find Destiny (Blonde, curvey) myself she was at Venom for a few months and who knows where last few weeks.

J.Did she use the name Peaches too?

[jymjim]

Did she use the name Peaches too?Nope not that I ever heard, she was big on being the "original" Destiny, haven't seen her in 2 months or so at Venom, she may have gone to Tens or TD West.

J.

[Puzzee Liquor]

Have been lurking for a while but decided to post farewell. I've been going to clubs for 25+ years. I've posted some explicit descriptions at times and hope I haven't been to off the wall and hope my posts have been helpful. A couple nights ago I went to Venom. As always I enjoyed myself, and tipped well the ladies all night. I ran into Diana, Rosie's sister from old days and we had good chat. Anyway last song of evening called "Fantasy dance" was told "after the fact" dance was $20. Don't know girls name. Three GOONS surrounded me for the $10 I "owed". I explained that at no time was it explained to me that dances were now $20 . I tossed $20 on the deck and told everyone that worked there to go fuck themselves. After 25 years and dropping $100,000 plus give or take conservatively. I have no longer any patience for the cunts that run that show. Best to all my private member friends. Fare thee well and Good NIght and Good Luck.

[Crutch]

Have been lurking for a while but decided to post farewell. I've been going to clubs for 25+ years. I've posted some explicit descriptions at times and hope I haven't been to off the wall and hope my posts have been helpful. A couple nights ago I went to Venom. As always I enjoyed myself, and tipped well the ladies all night. I ran into Diana, Rosie's sister from old days and we had good chat. Anyway last song of evening called "Fantasy dance" was told "after the fact" dance was $20. Don't know girls name. Three GOONS surrounded me for the $10 I "owed". I explained that at no time was it explained to me that dances were now $20 . I tossed $20 on the deck and told everyone that worked there to go fuck themselves. After 25 years and dropping $100,000 plus give or take conservatively. I have no longer any patience for the cunts that run that show. Best to all my private member friends. Fare thee well and Good NIght and Good Luck.Fare thee well to you. I've enjoyed your posts.

[TNutty]

Question, I met this girl a few months ago said her name was Sara (h)? We were in a driving class together, and she mentioned she was a stripper, but I cannot remember what club I got her # but lost it, white girl with tarts on her arms. She seemed like a good time but I can't find her number. Anybody know her and where she might dance at?

[ScarabReturns]

Question, I met this girl a few months ago said her name was Sara (h)? We were in a driving class together, and she mentioned she was a stripper, but I cannot remember what club I got her # but lost it, white girl with tarts on her arms. She seemed like a good time but I can't find her number. Anybody know her and where she might dance at?So her real name is Sara (h) or her stage name? With nothing to go on but the great description of, "a white girl with tarts on her arms," she would be very unique, On the other hand if your meant "tats," you just described the vast majority of caucasian strippers in the world! Good luck.

[DesertDenizen1]

Had a great time this morning there. I was the only guy there. Went to VIP with Tiffany, a pretty girl with just the best breasts ever. Friendly personality, engaging gal. We talked take out, she said she wanted to me to visit her at the club one more time to feel more comfortable, very reasonable request, so I will. We both live NW so I am sure it will work out. Have not been to a club in 10 years, so this was a nice surprise.

[jwny72]

Tiffany is a delightful little spinner. Rockin' little hard body, long, gazelle like legs, mouth watering ass, and fine (all natural) little rosebud titties. She's just my type. Probably just 21. I had a good time in the Champagne Room with her. Plenty of everything I wanted to do with my hands and mouth was encouraged. Her ass tastes better than most girls' pussies do. I came in my sweatpants big time, between her glutes and her hands she got the job done no problem. I didn't inquire about in house extras, or take out. But she gives good lap dance.

[jymjim]

Sounds like you had a great time, that's good to hear, did you notice if Raiders is still shorting songs to under 3 minutes like they were a few months ago?

Do they still charge for every song in VIP even if your just talking and taking a short break like last time I was there?

I still meet dancers from Raiders working in other clubs due to the lousy rules and changes they've been doing over the past year.

I used to see Sabrina, Heather and April there 2 years ago, but quit going when it got too customer unfriendly.

J.


Tiffany is a delightful little spinner. Rockin' little hard body, long, gazelle like legs, mouth watering ass, and fine (all natural) little rosebud titties. She's just my type. Probably just 21. I had a good time in the Champagne Room with her. Plenty of everything I wanted to do with my hands and mouth was encouraged. Her ass tastes better than most girls' pussies do. I came in my sweatpants big time, between her glutes and her hands she got the job done no problem. I didn't inquire about in house extras, or take out. But she gives good lap dance.

[Hobbiest420]

Have anyone seen a dance with a stage name Cinnamon at Eden? I met her about 2 years go, super hot. Wonder if she still dance there.

[CuteAndCoo2]

Sounds like you had a great time, that's good to hear, did you notice if Raiders is still shorting songs to under 3 minutes like they were a few months ago?

Do they still charge for every song in VIP even if your just talking and taking a short break like last time I was there?

I still meet dancers from Raiders working in other clubs due to the lousy rules and changes they've been doing over the past year.

I used to see Sabrina, Heather and April there 2 years ago, but quit going when it got too customer unfriendly.

J.Yes the songs are still shortened to 2:30. Yes they still charge for sitting with you in the champagne Room for each song.. Added a new rule as well. The dancer isn't suppose to have her face in your crotch at anytime in the champagne room. The reason that they have the one rule about sitting and being charge was this: The dancer would have the guy watch for the bouncer or manager, depending on who was coming into count the dance, and she would just jump back into a seated position as to not be counted as dancing. Oral could be stopped in a moment so no dances were being counted. Club wasn't making any money this way. They saw this happening on the cameras.

[Steve PA]

Yes the songs are still shortened to 2:30. Yes they still charge for sitting with you in the champagne Room for each song.. Added a new rule as well. The dancer isn't suppose to have her face in your crotch at anytime in the champagne room. The reason that they have the one rule about sitting and being charge was this: The dancer would have the guy watch for the bouncer or manager, depending on who was coming into count the dance, and she would just jump back into a seated position as to not be counted as dancing. Oral could be stopped in a moment so no dances were being counted. Club wasn't making any money this way. They saw this happening on the cameras.Learn something new everyday. Thanks!

[jwny72]

Sounds like you had a great time, that's good to hear, did you notice if Raiders is still shorting songs to under 3 minutes like they were a few months ago?

Do they still charge for every song in VIP even if your just talking and taking a short break like last time I was there?

I still meet dancers from Raiders working in other clubs due to the lousy rules and changes they've been doing over the past year.

I used to see Sabrina, Heather and April there 2 years ago, but quit going when it got too customer unfriendly.

J.


Yes the songs are still shortened to 2:30. Yes they still charge for sitting with you in the champagne Room for each song.. Added a new rule as well. The dancer isn't suppose to have her face in your crotch at anytime in the champagne room. The reason that they have the one rule about sitting and being charge was this: The dancer would have the guy watch for the bouncer or manager, depending on who was coming into count the dance, and she would just jump back into a seated position as to not be counted as dancing. Oral could be stopped in a moment so no dances were being counted. Club wasn't making any money this way. They saw this happening on the cameras.It's always been my experience, in all the clubs, that upon entering the Champagn Room / VIP area, girls sit with me until the song that's been playing ends before we get to it and a song count starts. I have no experience waiting for several songs to pass before beginning, nor have I ever wanted to start, then stop for a break, and then start again. So I've never come up against the policies you all describe. I do all the sitting and chatting on the floor, which is where I interact with various dancers, get table dances, and choose my favorite for the day. When it's time to hit the VIP, it's because I've done my hanging out, have made my selection, and it's time to get off and get out of the club before I spend any more money, LOL!

I don't remember if Tiffany put her face near my crotch or not. I was more interested in putting my face in her ass anyway.

The songs all seem to be around 3 minutes long I guess. I'm not keeping track of time in there though.

I like Raiders because there's no cover charge for entry to the Champagne Room,. All the other clubs charge something for entry into whatever their private area is called. That's in addition to the dances costing double too, which is true in all the clubs, including Raiders. I actually think I get the most bang for my buck there, with TD's West coming in second.

[Feaster69]

Have been lurking for a while but decided to post farewell. I've been going to clubs for 25+ years. I've posted some explicit descriptions at times and hope I haven't been to off the wall and hope my posts have been helpful. A couple nights ago I went to Venom. As always I enjoyed myself, and tipped well the ladies all night. I ran into Diana, Rosie's sister from old days and we had good chat. Anyway last song of evening called "Fantasy dance" was told "after the fact" dance was $20. Don't know girls name. Three GOONS surrounded me for the $10 I "owed". I explained that at no time was it explained to me that dances were now $20 . I tossed $20 on the deck and told everyone that worked there to go fuck themselves. After 25 years and dropping $100,000 plus give or take conservatively. I have no longer any patience for the cunts that run that show. Best to all my private member friends. Fare thee well and Good NIght and Good Luck.Not all of the girls at Venom are like that. Most of the day time girls are real nice.

[Shallowman53]

Not all of the girls at Venom are like that. Most of the day time girls are real nice.Amie for one is the sweetest person you will ever meet. In more ways than one!

[AzTransplant]

Amie for one is the sweetest person you will ever meet. In more ways than one!She sure is but when does she ever work?

[CuteAndCoo2]

She sure is but when does she ever work?It was her birthday recently so maybe that's why.

[Puzzee Liquor]

Not all of the girls at Venom are like that. Most of the day time girls are real nice.Sorry. Poor choice of words on my part. The cunts I am referring to in my post would be the management and bouncers, not the dancers. I have no issue with the dancers and if you review my posts you'll make note of quite a few escapades I was willing to share, including Amie. Now back to my regularly scheduled retirement as I had previously posted. Good Night and Good Luck.

[Shallowman53]

Sorry. Poor choice of words on my part. The cunts I am referring to in my post would be the management and bouncers, not the dancers. I have no issue with the dancers and if you review my posts you'll make note of quite a few escapades I was willing to share, including Amie. Now back to my regularly scheduled retirement as I had previously posted. Good Night and Good Luck.Just got back from VENOM saw Amie and Marque. They invite all their friends, past and present to come on down for a visit today. They assure me you will all enjoy the show< and will all leave with a smile on your face. I know I did.

[AzTransplant]

Just got back from VENOM saw Amie and Marque. They invite all their friends, past and present to come on down for a visit today. They assure me you will all enjoy the show< and will all leave with a smile on your face. I know I did.Man I tell you Marque can give a fabulous blowjob!

[RedTail]

Pulled into Curves last week hoping for some fun. Found a nearly full club at 10 pm and few seats available. Also found an unusual vibe going on, can't explain it but things were different than my previous visits. I also did not recognize any of the girls in the place, dancers or waitresses. I've lost touch with my favorite dancer there and have also heard from a dancer from Tens there may have been some trouble at Curves recently with dancers fighting? Not sure if that is true or not?

Any of you hear of any trouble there? Anyway I stayed about an hour or so and found only a few dancers who interested me. One of my least impressive visits to my favorite Tucson club.

[RedTail]

Drove past TDs East last night. Looks like nothing going on there at all with any kind of rebuilding efforts. Any of you locals know anything?

Also, I met a Raider's Reef dancer in Albuquerque a few weeks ago. I've never been to RR yet but she got my attention. Girl's name is Kika, said she was Peruvian. Anyone know her and willing to share some intel? I'm likely to pull into RR on my next trip. She gave great dances in the Albuquerque club (TDs Eubank) on the main floor. Figured she would be lots of fun in more private circumstances?

[AzTransplant]

Man I tell you Marque can give a fabulous blowjob!Made another visit to Venom today based on the fun that was had a couple days ago. Will be returning again real soon as it was as much fun as the previous visit. I do fear that I may have led some folks astray with a slightly erroneous previous post, as after the visit I am fairly certain that I confused Marque with Star. My bad, hope no one went treasure hunting with my bad map.

AZT.

[Netveg1]

It's been a while since I've had a chance to go to the clubs. Anyone seen Samantha at any of the clubs? Dark haired, large bolt-ons, plenty of tattoos including one of Marilyn Monroe on her arm. Always one of my favorite dancers and she used to work at Raiders and Candy Store. Would be fun to see her dance again. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

[CuteAndCoo2]

It's been a while since I've had a chance to go to the clubs. Anyone seen Samantha at any of the clubs? Dark haired, large bolt-ons, plenty of tattoos including one of Marilyn Monroe on her arm. Always one of my favorite dancers and she used to work at Raiders and Candy Store. Would be fun to see her dance again. Any help is appreciated. Thanks.Retired from the industry. Forever.

[SmokeShopJoe]

Retired from the industry. Forever.That sounds too ominous. Couldn't you just say she moved away to a farm or something?

[LuvGun]

Swore I would never go to strip clubs again but it is so quick and easy to get your young girl fix. So I went to the V yesterday and got a BJ and FS for 30 minutes in the cabana for $150. All the massage girls who abuse their customers can fuck off.

[ScarabReturns]

Nevada Supreme court just ruled that the dancers are necessary employees of a club, not independent contractors. This changes their whole business model from essentially taking money from both sides now to only having the customers as a revenue stream! Article here.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nevada-court-says-las-vegas-strip-club-dancers-are-employees/

[Uncivil]

Speaking as someone who spent a few years working in that business, I can tell you that if this change comes here, it is only going to end up costing both sides money. Girls at strip club were always the draw, and to a lesser extend the food specials. But, their biggest profit margin, by FAR, is the markup on alcohol.

In reality, a dancer has to turn over a grand total of less than $50 a shift to the club, and that's worst-case scenario. Of course they're going to whine and moan and ***** about how broke they are and how they're not making any money. But, a motivated, at-least-somewhat attractive dancer is walking out of the club with a minimum of $200 cash. When I say "motivated", I mean she's not just sitting on her ass all night, and then wondering at closing time why she didn't make any money. Any girl who isn't clearing at least $200 on most nights shouldn't be working in that business anyway because she's either too lazy, or not attractive enough to entice guys to pay to watch her dance.


Nevada Supreme court just ruled that the dancers are necessary employees of a club, not independent contractors. This changes their whole business model from essentially taking money from both sides now to only having the customers as a revenue stream! Article here.

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/nevada-court-says-las-vegas-strip-club-dancers-are-employees/

[Feaster69]

She sure is but when does she ever work?Normally you can find Amie on Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday day shift. Any other day is hit and miss. Senior members can pm for her number to confirm if they want to go to the club to see her.

[Feaster69]

I was cleaning out some old files on my computer and ran across these pics of Amie from the website days. Thought you might enjoy them.

[Netveg1]

Retired from the industry. Forever.Thanks for the reply. That's too bad. She was one of my ATF. How about Mystique? Anyone seen her around? Thanks again.

[Daka1]

It's been a while since I've been there. I wonder if Majica, Tattoo, and Natasha are still dancing at Venom. All very sweet ladies.

D

[DesertDogRedux]

I was cleaning out some old files on my computer and ran across these pics of Amie from the website days. Thought you might enjoy them.Feaster thanks for the photos. For those of us incapable of getting to the club during Amy's working hours these photos are a big bonus. Gave me a chubby just looking at them.

DDOg.

[Feaster69]

For those of you who are Amie fans just letting you know she is working today.

[Gilligan46]

Talked to a dancer today at the boat. New rules in effect just a few days ago. Customers can not touch butts or breast unless in the VIP room. They are fined 15 grand because a liquor control board inspector saw a dancer doing a BJ during a lap dance. Less fun. Fewer customers. Less profits for both the boat and the dancers. Maybe more of them will go to Venom?

[Stripper Luv]

Talked to a dancer today at the boat. New rules in effect just a few days ago. Customers can not touch butts or breast unless in the VIP room. They are fined 15 grand because a liquor control board inspector saw a dancer doing a BJ during a lap dance. Less fun. Fewer customers. Less profits for both the boat and the dancers. Maybe more of them will go to Venom?Yeah, but at least the songs are 4 minutes now. LOL.

[Bertlong]

Talked to a dancer today at the boat. New rules in effect just a few days ago. Customers can not touch butts or breast unless in the VIP room. They are fined 15 grand because a liquor control board inspector saw a dancer doing a BJ during a lap dance. Less fun. Fewer customers. Less profits for both the boat and the dancers. Maybe more of them will go to Venom?In the other hand! Look at it from a different perspective. If girls there are not making that much money because of the lack of customers they just might be more open to do something in the privates, just don't get caught. I don't have time to go over there this week but if some one try's my hypothesis let us know how it develops. The need for money opens a lot of doors.

[SmokeShopJoe]

if some one try's my hypothesis let us know how it develops. Indeed some quick perform the social experiment and report back after your findings are in.

[Gilligan46]

Indeed some quick perform the social experiment and report back after your findings are in.Actually much was offered in the VIP. But I have a couple of gals that are willing to do take out. That way they keep all the money.

[ScarabReturns]

Indeed some quick perform the social experiment and report back after your findings are in.Generally I am pretty tolerant of grammatical errors, but what the hell does the this mean? Could you diagram it please?

[SmokeShopJoe]

Ok I suck at multitasking and clearly was paying absolutely no attention to what I was doing.

How about:

Indeed. Quick, some one perform the social experiment and report back after your findings are in.

But on the upside of poor grammar and structure, I did manage to refill my dogs water and not over fill it and managed to post on the internet (albeit poorly).

[jymjim]

Yeah, but at least the songs are 4 minutes now. LOL.I just stopped in the Boat yesterday for a bit, the songs are 3 minutes on the mark, I timed a few, also the dancers there looked pretty ragged, no curves at all, kinda grim in a way I haven't seen there before, grantd Tuesday is a slow day, but I had just had some fun at Venom which was a much better selection of dancers and better attitude + vib.

Haven; t tried 10's in a while, have to drop in there later this week, any word on TS east rebuild?

Thanks,

J.

[CuteAndCoo2]

I chatted with Tia on Monday. She used to work at Tds East a few years back. She just started again and looks great. She said that she will work Monday threw Friday during the day shift. Most likely from noon to 4-5. I remember that she had a large following. She's just starting back so please be good to her. Be safe. Play safe.

[DesertDogRedux]

I chatted with Tia on Monday. She used to work at Tds East a few years back. She just started again and looks great. She said that she will work Monday threw Friday during the day shift. Most likely from noon to 4-5. I remember that she had a large following. She's just starting back so please be good to her. Be safe. Play safe.Sweet Jesus that's good to know. Is her little blonde friend Christie working there too, the one with the chili pepper tat on her stomach?

[CuteAndCoo2]

Sweet Jesus that's good to know. Is her little blonde friend Christie working there too, the one with the chili pepper tat on her stomach?I had seen Christie at the West club when the East club burnt, but as of lately, I haven't. She does really well so she doesn't have to work everyday, or every week for that matter. She is super fun. Be safe. Play safe.

[AzTransplant]

I had seen Christie at the West club when the East club burnt, but as of lately, I haven't. She does really well so she doesn't have to work everyday, or every week for that matter. She is super fun. Be safe. Play safe.Yeah she does good alright. I can't imagine the amount of money she pulls in a day based on her activities that I have viewed and the donations that she had quoted me.

[TucGuy]

I chatted with Tia on Monday. She used to work at Tds East a few years back. She just started again and looks great. She said that she will work Monday threw Friday during the day shift. Most likely from noon to 4-5. I remember that she had a large following. She's just starting back so please be good to her. Be safe. Play safe.Glad to hear Tia is back. I have known her since the very beginning, won't say how long, but she is a great lady. She and Christie were always my faves whenever I got the chance to visit.

[CuteAndCoo2]

I just stopped in the Boat yesterday for a bit, the songs are 3 minutes on the mark, I timed a few, also the dancers there looked pretty ragged, no curves at all, kinda grim in a way I haven't seen there before, grantd Tuesday is a slow day, but I had just had some fun at Venom which was a much better selection of dancers and better attitude + vib.

Haven; t tried 10's in a while, have to drop in there later this week, any word on TS east rebuild?

Thanks,

J.I haven't asked the owner about it in months. A few months ago it was discussed that it would be the early part of next year. I think it was stated January-February, But things may have changed. I will keep you posted. I know it will be visually the best looking club in town. Maybe a similar opening as Christies. Who knows on that club? The Liquor board might be the only one to ask for those details.

[TheJimmyDean]

I haven't asked the owner about it in months. A few months ago it was discussed that it would be the early part of next year. I think it was stated January-February, But things may have changed. I will keep you posted. I know it will be visually the best looking club in town. Maybe a similar opening as Christies. Who knows on that club? The Liquor board might be the only one to ask for those details.I'm new to Tucson as of May and haven't hit up any clubs in town. I'm in the NW so TD west is the closest and most convenient. Any word on extras there?

[JDSax7]

I haven't asked the owner about it in months. A few months ago it was discussed that it would be the early part of next year. I think it was stated January-February, But things may have changed. I will keep you posted. I know it will be visually the best looking club in town. Maybe a similar opening as Christies. Who knows on that club? The Liquor board might be the only one to ask for those details.I was at TD's West on Monday. I had a few dances from and was talking to an older hispanic dancer named Susie. She said she heard that the East club was supposed to reopen next month. She wasn't sure of an exact date, just sometime in December.

[SmokeShopJoe]

I'm new to Tucson as of May and haven't hit up any clubs in town. I'm in the NW so TD west is the closest and most convenient. Any word on extras there?For starters you want to find a girl named Ludmilla, then you should ask for the Alabama crab daggel, she'll know what you mean (wink).

If she isn't there you just need to say to the girls "You're a friend of Francois," Then ask for the Alabama crab daggel.

Or maybe you just don't ask questions like that with only one post under your belt, or any number of posts under you belt.

The correct way to ask is "Hey guys, I am new to Tucson and was wondering if anybody could PM me with any information about TD's west."

See there, I did help you.

[ScarabReturns]

I'm new to Tucson as of May and haven't hit up any clubs in town. I'm in the NW so TD west is the closest and most convenient. Any word on extras there?The most honest answer anyone could provide you. YMMV.

[AzTransplant]

Glad to hear Tia is back. I have known her since the very beginning, won't say how long, but she is a great lady. She and Christie were always my faves whenever I got the chance to visit.Does anyone know if Tia is working the weekends at all, or just weekdays?

AZT.

[Drrrr]

For starters you want to find a girl named Ludmilla, then you should ask for the Alabama crab daggel, she'll know what you mean (wink).

If she isn't there you just need to say to the girls "You're a friend of Francois," Then ask for the Alabama crab daggel.

That was awesome. I'd buy you a dance if knew who you were.

[AtlBadBoy]

Swore I would never go to strip clubs again but it is so quick and easy to get your young girl fix. So I went to the V yesterday and got a BJ and FS for 30 minutes in the cabana for $150. All the massage girls who abuse their customers can fuck off.I tried that what girl were you with?

[AtlBadBoy]

Hey can anyone tell me somthing about linda at venom?She is very sweet. But she is 47 and will talk about that a lot. She feels no one will want her and her retirement time will be soon and she thinks they are going to force her. But I can tell you when she isn't being depressing about her age she is the sweetest woman you will meet.

[CuteAndCoo2]

Does anyone know if Tia is working the weekends at all, or just weekdays?

AZT.I will ask if she is working the weekends, but she told me directly that day that I posted about it, that it was a M-F thing. I can go in or text her other fiend that is doing the same shift as her if she is mixing the days up. But if good money is coming, they will always make an acception if its feasible.

[JDSax7]

She is very sweet. But she is 47 and will talk about that a lot. She feels no one will want her and her retirement time will be soon and she thinks they are going to force her. But I can tell you when she isn't being depressing about her age she is the sweetest woman you will meet.What shift does she normally work?

[AzTransplant]

So having the week off of work I decided to go to TDW to see if I could catch Tia since I heard she was back working at the club. Alas she was not present, at least not for the hour I was there from 2- 3 pm. However I did run into another person that I was shocked to see there: believe it or not Daisy's former protege Mina was working the club! This came as a particular surprise since word was she had quit the massage business to go to school.

AZT

[Gilligan46]

So having the week off of work I decided to go to TDW to see if I could catch Tia since I heard she was back working at the club. Alas she was not present, at least not for the hour I was there from 2- 3 pm. However I did run into another person that I was shocked to see there: believe it or not Daisy's former protege Mina was working the club! This came as a particular surprise since word was she had quit the massage business to go to school.

AZTPerhaps the story she told on this forum was not the truth and real reason they stopped the rub and tug service.

[ScarabReturns]

Perhaps the story she told on this forum was not the truth and real reason they stopped the rub and tug service.Or perhaps it is. The make your own schedule conditions of dancing and freedom from idiots calling all times of the day and night might work out a whole lot better for going to class.

Of course, there isn't much fun in that explanation due to the lack of conspiracy.

[Gilligan46]

Or perhaps it is. The make your own schedule conditions of dancing and freedom from idiots calling all times of the day and night might work out a whole lot better for going to class.

Of course, there isn't much fun in that explanation due to the lack of conspiracy.Is their a conspiracy theory? Tell me about it. Inquiring minds want to know.

[Stripper Luv]

What the hell were they thinking? They removed all the couches along the two walls in the main room and replaced them with BENCHES! The best way to describe them is to say they are padded benches with a sitting area that just barely accommodates your butt. The design makes you sit straight upright--no slouching to get comfortable or to allow the dancer to sit astride your lap. I tried getting a dance. It was awkward. I found myself holding onto the cushion with both hands so I wouldn't fall off the narrow surface. And for this indignity they charge a premium price for dances. Shameful.

The good news is that the furniture and layout of the VIP is different and more comfortable--all couches.

Saw TDs East favorites Christie, Tia, Sharon. Got VIP dances from Tia with happy result.

[JDSax7]

What the hell were they thinking? They removed all the couches along the two walls in the main room and replaced them with BENCHES! The best way to describe them is to say they are padded benches with a sitting area that just barely accommodates your butt. The design makes you sit straight upright--no slouching to get comfortable or to allow the dancer to sit astride your lap. I tried getting a dance. It was awkward. I found myself holding onto the cushion with both hands so I wouldn't fall off the narrow surface. And for this indignity they charge a premium price for dances. Shameful.

The good news is that the furniture and layout of the VIP is different and more comfortable--all couches.

Saw TDs East favorites Christie, Tia, Sharon. Got VIP dances from Tia with happy result.According to TD's West dancer Susie, TD's East is supposed to reopen in December.

[Juicy Amie69]

Wanted to wish all of you a Happy Thanksgiving! I also want to let those of you that have some free time Thanksgiving night that Venom is open at 7:00 pm and some of us daytime ladies will be working and having fun so stop in say hi.

XOXO.

Amie.

[EbonyLvver]

Wanted to wish all of you a Happy Thanksgiving! I also want to let those of you that have some free time Thanksgiving night that Venom is open at 7:00 pm and some of us daytime ladies will be working and having fun so stop in say hi.

XOXO.

Amie.Best news I've heard all day. Ill def stop before my black Friday shopping. I just hope my fav will be working tonight.

[EbonyLvver]

Had a little free time before black Friday shopping yesterday so I stopped by Venom since I'm only in town for a few days. I didn't see my favorite dancer working, but I did see a VERY sexy latina lady with a huge ass. I tipped her on stage, but she never came by. I was about to leave when a busty dancer with a nice pair of tits came by to say hello. She introduced herself as A* She was EXTEREMLY Nice and had a great smile so I asked for floor dance. It was a very promising dance with light kissing on the neck and plenty of grinding so I asked if she wanted to join me in VIP. She did not disappoint and provided a great dance. I asked if If I knew her from somewhere and she just winked. Great club and I will be back. I still haven't checked out TD's so I think that will be my next stop, but A* gave me plenty of reason to go back.

-lvver.

[EbonyLvver]

Alright, so in my Last reports you will see that I was attempting to find my favorite dancer at Venom. I didn't know her name, but I found out today. I arrived at Venom around 1:30 and found my favorite "andrea". I asked if she can give me another private dance in the cabanas like last time. She said sure, but her rates have changed. ITs now 30 per song or 100 for 3 songs. I normally would tell somebody no thanks at that price since most people I have talked to say its 20 to 25 per song, but she was so AMAZING last time I thought what the hell. She was the main reason why I came to this strip club. We go in and I tip her $. 20.20 went to the dj and $ to her. She begins with a lame ass dance and when there was 3 minutes left I asked her why she was so shy today. She becomes bitchy and states if you want something ask. So I ask her for a BBBJ. I hate the girl, but I got to admit she gives a GOOD BBBJ. She starts sucking on junior and stops saying if she going to continue I will have to tip her again. I said no prob and gave her another $. She gets back to sucking on junior when she gets up and starts to gather her things.

I asked her what was up and she said "I have to dance on stage". I asked if she was coming back and she never responded. I think she doesn't hear me and ask her again. She reponded with "yup". I sit and sit, 23 minutes go by and no andrea. I walk out of the cabannas while still on the upper deck area and start to look for her. At this point I have a bad feeling that she won't come back. I then head back to the cabanas and when walking back another dancer who I have seen before slaps me on the ass. I tell her I'm waiting for anther dancer (Andrea) in the cabanas and she immediately gets a worried look on her face and suggests I go talk with mgt and tell them what happend. Since I didn't want to go up to mgt and say "hey I was getting a blow job from andrea and she took my money and walked out". I declined and said ill wait a little more. She offered to go find her, but I told her no worries because she knows where I'm at and telling her I'm setting in the cabanas won't help. She waits with me and we talk and since she felt bad for me she gave me a free dance in the canbanas. It was more like a floor dance, but she doesn't want the club to start to get a bad rep. She was telling me alot of guys have stopped coming because girls at stealing tips and people talk. She gives me a kiss on the cheek and says "sorry for my bad experience and next time I should see her".

I'm on my way walking out and I SEE HER SITTING WITH ANOTHER GUY! At this point I'm FURIOUS I walk right up to her and threw up my arms and what WTF? She look right at me and lied to my face saying I went to the canbana's and didn't see you there. I ask if she wants to continue the dance and she says it will be another 100 dollars plus 20 for the DJ. I was so SHOCKED. I started to leave and stopped by the DJ to ask him what that dancer name was to which he responded "Andrea, AN-FING-DREA. WARNING- this is my second time getting my cashed jacked from me. Don't GET ANY DANCES FROM DANCER STATING a flat rate. ONLY get a dance if you can pay per dance. I made a horrible mistake and "ANDREA" took full advantage of it. "Andrea" is 5-8" black girl with hair down to her shoulders. She HOT, but don't fall for it. I can't believe this shit.

[SmokeShopJoe]

Did you give her the. 2 for the cabana or the DJ? Because If you paid it to the DJ then he would have known not to call her to the stage, unless he is in on it too.

[EbonyLvver]

Did you give her the. 2 for the cabana or the DJ? Because If you paid it to the DJ then he would have known not to call her to the stage, unless he is in on it too.Yea, I paid 20 for the DJ. $ to her for 15 minutes. I believe she was lying about having to go on stage because when i peek outside the curtain i didn't see her on stage.. Most likely she ran to the back and chilled for 30 mins thinking i would leave. The next time i saw her she was sitting with some other guy.I'll still go back because they have some nice dancers, but I think ill take a break for awhile. I don't live here and only come back to visit family. I know next time to NOT pay for flat rates and just to pay per song. Oh well you live and learn.

[EbonyLvver]

Yea, I paid 20 for the DJ. $ to her for 15 minutes. I believe she was lying about having to go on stage because when i peek outside the curtain i didn't see her on stage.. Most likely she ran to the back and chilled for 30 mins thinking i would leave. The next time i saw her she was sitting with some other guy.I'll still go back because they have some nice dancers, but I think ill take a break for awhile. I don't live here and only come back to visit family. I know next time to NOT pay for flat rates and just to pay per song. Oh well you live and learn.Or she just kept the. 20 and never paid the dj. Now that I'm thinking about it I never did she her actually hand him the. 20. I went to the bar to grab a drink and met her over at the cabana. Who knows for sure, One thing is certain something going on here.

[PhychoKid]

She is a thief and will hustle your money, stay away.

[ShortManSexy]

Yea, I paid 20 for the DJ. $ to her for 15 minutes. I believe she was lying about having to go on stage because when i peek outside the curtain i didn't see her on stage.. Most likely she ran to the back and chilled for 30 mins thinking i would leave. The next time i saw her she was sitting with some other guy.I'll still go back because they have some nice dancers, but I think ill take a break for awhile. I don't live here and only come back to visit family. I know next time to NOT pay for flat rates and just to pay per song. Oh well you live and learn.They are all out to screw each other over. I had a guy that worked with me and he worked at Venom part time as a bouncer and he used to tell me some sleezy shit they did there because everyone's money hungry so the dancers screw the bouncers and they try and screw over the dancers. So just be careful because you can't trust anyone.

[Pilot Prod]

Wanted to wish all of you a Happy Thanksgiving! I also want to let those of you that have some free time Thanksgiving night that Venom is open at 7:00 pm and some of us daytime ladies will be working and having fun so stop in say hi.

XOXO.

Amie.There was a Juicy Amie who worked the Day Shift at the Candy Store about 5 years or so ago. She was my favorite then. VERY skillful.

[ShallowMan62]

There was a Juicy Amie who worked the Day Shift at the Candy Store about 5 years or so ago. She was my favorite then. VERY skillful.Same AMIE, same skills, well maybe a few new ones, enjoy and play safe. Also still days.

[Az Headhunter]

Went to Ten's first. $5. 75 for a beer. The few girls that were there were sitting on their asses. None of them were all that attractive. So, off to Venom I went. Got a couple dances from a little Latina spinner with a set of about see cup bolt-on's. Her name was Jennifer. Dance was fun, but she was seriously looking for a way to get as deep into my wallet as she could with as little effort as possible. Yeah, I know that's their job, but she wasn't even trying to disguise it. Then got a few floor dances from a blonde girl. Wish I could remember her name. Had her hair pulled back tight, into a pony tail high on the back of her head. Gorgeous set of bot-on's, very well done. Talked to her about the cabanas, didn't seem like there was much on the table, so I opted to not partake. Oh yeah. Better beer and better beer prices at Venom vs. Tens, too. Play safe, Merry Christmas.

[Dennis1234]

I have been looking for her. Anybody seen her anywhere? She was my favorite.

[Teepee12]

Anyone know the usual lunchtime line up or when Danni is normally there. Thanks for any help.

[ShallowMan62]

Went to TDs West, check out Mellisa blond with large fake boobs. I think she's a friend of Tia's. She has a most spectacular backside! Take her to the VIP you will be glad you did I was. Daytime.

[TucsonNewbie]

Made a visit to the Venom titty club this week. Needless to say titties are not the only thing available at this establishment. Met a sexy little girl who stated her name was CJ. Not certain if she is caucasian or hispanic, not that it really matters. This girl gives absolutely the single best BBBJ I have ever encountered anywhere on this earth. Amazing body too with the exception of a little bit of a pooch in the abdominal region. Only down side is I think she is a high volume.

[Gilligan46]

Made a visit to the Venom titty club this week. Needless to say titties are not the only thing available at this establishment. Met a sexy little girl who stated her name was CJ. Not certain if she is caucasian or hispanic, not that it really matters. This girl gives absolutely the single best BBBJ I have ever encountered anywhere on this earth. Amazing body too with the exception of a little bit of a pooch in the abdominal region. Only down side is I think she is a high volume.I agree. Met CJ last week. I only had time for a couple of dances with her. She was very sensuous and let me roam were ever I want during the table dances. Must return to get her into a cabana or might see if she will do takeout. She also is a great kisser.

[TucsonNewbie]

I agree. Met CJ last week. I only had time for a couple of dances with her. She was very sensuous and let me roam were ever I want during the table dances. Must return to get her into a cabana or might see if she will do takeout. She also is a great kisser.Take out was mentioned as an option. I wish I wold not have had another appointment after my club visit or I for sure wold have taken her up on that offer. Not to be missed this one.

[Stripper Luv]

Made a visit to the Venom titty club this week. Needless to say titties are not the only thing available at this establishment. Met a sexy little girl who stated her name was CJ. Not certain if she is caucasian or hispanic, not that it really matters. This girl gives absolutely the single best BBBJ I have ever encountered anywhere on this earth. Amazing body too with the exception of a little bit of a pooch in the abdominal region. Only down side is I think she is a high volume.I agree that CJ gives the best head in the history of mankind. She seems to like doing it. I'd be interested to know if anyone has had her outside the club and how it was. PM me.

[CuteAndCoo2]

I agree that CJ gives the best head in the history of mankind. She seems to like doing it. I'd be interested to know if anyone has had her outside the club and how it was. PM me.Is C J a day dancer? If not, when? I would truly like to beat my best blow job ever. I've had a few "bestesess" in my time. Other than just the pure satisfaction of a great blow job. I can usually tell the following morning when my quadriceps are a little sore. I'm okay with that. Be safe. Play safe.

[Stripper Luv]

Is C J a day dancer? If not, when? I would truly like to beat my best blow job ever. I've had a few "bestesess" in my time. Other than just the pure satisfaction of a great blow job. I can usually tell the following morning when my quadriceps are a little sore. I'm okay with that. Be safe. Play safe.She's a daytime dancer. Usually arrives at opening or within a few minutes of opening. Her four hours are up at 3:00.

[ShortManSexy]

I agree that CJ gives the best head in the history of mankind. She seems to like doing it. I'd be interested to know if anyone has had her outside the club and how it was. PM me.How much does one run for her?

[Stripper Luv]

New girl at Venom tonight. She tried to talk me into the cabanas to do anal. Said it makes her squirt. I took her into the cabana but I didn't get further than the BBBJ before I blew a load. Excellent BJ technique--as good as it gets. She's serious about anal.

[SmokeShopJoe]

Stopped by Venom today didn't even have enough time to finish my beer before getting called into work. Grumble bullshit grumble. Anyways saw a nice blond girl with tats going by Sunny Shoot me a PM if anybody's got the info on her.

[Madaz6]

New girl at Venom tonight. She tried to talk me into the cabanas to do anal. Said it makes her squirt. I took her into the cabana but I didn't get further than the BBBJ before I blew a load. Excellent BJ technique--as good as it gets. She's serious about anal.Would be very interested in her.

[TucsonNewbie]

Made another stop at the Venom club this week when I had an extended lunch. Met a very cute, chubby latina, named Carmen. After a couple of floor dances and drinks we made our way to the cabana area where the real fun ensued. Chose to spend a half an hour behind the curtain with her and it was one of the best half hours of my lifetime as she was down for most anything. I love when the dancers are intoxicated. LOL.

[Gilligan46]

How much does one run for her?It will cost $ plus 20 for the cabaña. Includes some kissing, BBBJ, day, fiv, and I got to take a few pics for my personal vagina collection.

[CuteAndCoo2]

It will cost $ plus 20 for the cabaa. Includes some kissing, BBBJ, day, fiv, and I got to take a few pics for my personal vagina collection.I've been to a few stop clubs in my day and have observed the most "popular" dancers going in and out of VIP / Cabana / Players Lounges up to 10 times in a given shift. Most of them come out and immediately rehit the floor without wiping down the breasts the vagina area after penetration or gargling with some mouthwash. A few friends of mine have watched some of the dancers as they've come in to the club to check in. Those normally are perceived to be physically a tad cleaner. I just wanted to remind the strip club mongers that you might want to reconsider the kissing and bare back acts, or try to be a little more aware of the dancer that you are getting involved with. I almost went back to erase this, but just hoping that mongers who do practice safely will continue to do so. And mongers who don't, will think twice to keep themselves safe. My friend was kissing a dancer once and didn't recognize a taste that he had never tasted before. We began to discuss it and we came to the conclusion that it was either the Dick she was sucking minutes before, or a taste of sperm. Be safe. Play safe.

[DesertDenizen1]

I've been to a few stop clubs in my day and have observed the most "popular" dancers going in and out of VIP / Cabana / Players Lounges up to 10 times in a given shift. Most of them come out and immediately rehit the floor without wiping down the breasts the vagina area after penetration or gargling with some mouthwash. A few friends of mine have watched some of the dancers as they've come in to the club to check in. Those normally are perceived to be physically a tad cleaner. I just wanted to remind the strip club mongers that you might want to reconsider the kissing and bare back acts, or try to be a little more aware of the dancer that you are getting involved with. I almost went back to erase this, but just hoping that mongers who do practice safely will continue to do so. And mongers who don't, will think twice to keep themselves safe. My friend was kissing a dancer once and didn't recognize a taste that he had never tasted before. We began to discuss it and we came to the conclusion that it was either the Dick she was sucking minutes before, or a taste of sperm. Be safe. Play safe.Damn good advice!

[EbonyLvver]

I've been to a few stop clubs in my day and have observed the most "popular" dancers going in and out of VIP / Cabana / Players Lounges up to 10 times in a given shift. Most of them come out and immediately rehit the floor without wiping down the breasts the vagina area after penetration or gargling with some mouthwash. A few friends of mine have watched some of the dancers as they've come in to the club to check in. Those normally are perceived to be physically a tad cleaner. I just wanted to remind the strip club mongers that you might want to reconsider the kissing and bare back acts, or try to be a little more aware of the dancer that you are getting involved with. I almost went back to erase this, but just hoping that mongers who do practice safely will continue to do so. And mongers who don't, will think twice to keep themselves safe. My friend was kissing a dancer once and didn't recognize a taste that he had never tasted before. We began to discuss it and we came to the conclusion that it was either the Dick she was sucking minutes before, or a taste of sperm. Be safe. Play safe.LMFAO! To Funny!

[Gilligan46]

Stopped at. Venom about 3:00 Friday afternoon. Met Chanel. Nice gal of 23 years. Nice butt, small titties. And a very tight and wet kitty. Never had a baby pass thru that vagina. She asked if I wanted to go to a cabana but I did not think I was in the mood since I was in one the day before. (not as young as I once was. LOL). Chanel slid her hand up my shorts and convinced me I still had some energy left. Did 6 songs right there at the table until I was done in. The next time I will take her up on the cabanas. That girl knows stuff. LOL.

[TucsonNewbie]

Another stop at the Venom led to the acquaintance of a rather amazing bodied african american gal named Pinkie (?Pinkey). Any way nice and juicy in all the right places and once in the cabana more than friendly in all the right ways.

[TucsonTaoist]

I've been to a few stop clubs in my day and have observed the most "popular" dancers going in and out of VIP / Cabana / Players Lounges up to 10 times in a given shift. Most of them come out and immediately rehit the floor without wiping down the breasts the vagina area after penetration or gargling with some mouthwash. A few friends of mine have watched some of the dancers as they've come in to the club to check in. Those normally are perceived to be physically a tad cleaner. I just wanted to remind the strip club mongers that you might want to reconsider the kissing and bare back acts, or try to be a little more aware of the dancer that you are getting involved with. I almost went back to erase this, but just hoping that mongers who do practice safely will continue to do so. And mongers who don't, will think twice to keep themselves safe. My friend was kissing a dancer once and didn't recognize a taste that he had never tasted before. We began to discuss it and we came to the conclusion that it was either the Dick she was sucking minutes before, or a taste of sperm. Be safe. Play safe.I made the mistake of licking a dancer where I shouldn't have. I got amoebic dysentery! The doctor said we don't get that in the US anymore. I smelled like a pond for a month!

[TucsonNewbie]

Made a repeat visit to Venom to see if I could run into Carmen again. All worked out as I had hoped. Seemingly it is not relevant whether or not she is intoxicated, as the time had in the cabana was as good as the first meeting. BBBJ, daty, fiv dfk, ballsucking and FS are all to be had. Now I just have to become as savvy as Gilligan and start getting fotos for a personal collection.

[Gilligan46]

Made a repeat visit to Venom to see if I could run into Carmen again. All worked out as I had hoped. Seemingly it is not relevant whether or not she is intoxicated, as the time had in the cabana was as good as the first meeting. BBBJ, daty, fiv dfk, ballsucking and FS are all to be had. Now I just have to become as savvy as Gilligan and start getting fotos for a personal collection.All you have to do is ask. The worst that happens is they say no.

[CuteAndCoo2]

All you have to do is ask. The worst that happens is they say no.I think you should just whip out your phone just as quick as you whipped out your Dick and just start taking pics like your a professional photographer. The worst thing she can say is 'don't show my face', or 'don't show your good friends on the sex guide forum'. Looking forward to your next report sir. Be safe. Play safe. And get some ucking photos. We can't wait to see your outstanding professional photos.

[ScarabReturns]

The worst thing she can say is 'don't show my face', or 'don't show your good friends on the sex guide forum'.Or report you to the management and have you tossed out on your ass with or without a working phone, since all the clubs clearly state no photography at their entrance.

[CuteAndCoo2]

Or report you to the management and have you tossed out on your ass with or without a working phone, since all the clubs clearly state no photography at their entrance.It was a joke. It doesn't say anything on the sign outside about pulling out your dick so does that make it okay? LOL. I've known Carmen for years so I don't think she would kick you out. And especially if you buy her a drink. I may have to state a funny disclosure every time I make a funny. Or I can just say S R, I was just kidding. Its always best to ask a dancer 'if you can' for any request that you may have. Keeps everything comfortable. Be safe. Play safe. And I guess I will start to use the 'LOL, haha, and funny marks or symbols when joking next time. I thought it would have been more understood. Wow. .

[Gilligan46]

It was a joke. It doesn't say anything on the sign outside about pulling out your dick so does that make it okay? LOL. I've known Carmen for years so I don't think she would kick you out. And especially if you buy her a drink. I may have to state a funny disclosure every time I make a funny. Or I can just say S R, I was just kidding. Its always best to ask a dancer 'if you can' for any request that you may have. Keeps everything comfortable. Be safe. Play safe. And I guess I will start to use the 'LOL, haha, and funny marks or symbols when joking next time. I thought it would have been more understood. Wow. .The cabanas are like Vegas. What happens in the cabanas, stays in the cabanas. Correct me if I am wrong but I think getting BJ, s and FS is against the law and rules too.

[Gilligan46]

Met veronica today at venom. A larger gal but still shapely. Open for pretty much everything. 4 dances at my table. H a ND up the shorts a stroked me off. Fiv, got her off or she is a great actress. LOL said she could be willing to follow me home. Might take her up on that offer. Vennom is getting tv be better than it was when it was the candy store.

[ScarabReturns]

The cabanas are like Vegas. What happens in the cabanas, stays in the cabanas. Correct me if I am wrong but I think getting BJ, s and FS is against the law and rules too.Exactly correct, however you have not suggested that someone do whatever they wish to someone without their consent. The post I responded to, did exactly that.

Perhaps you guys forget that people come here to get advice / knowledge of what goes on. Suggesting that one act in a manner inconsistent with acceptable norms of this "hobby," is at best, bad judgement. At worst, it could result in serious injury or death. If you think I am overstating the case, it wasn't so long ago that a member of the local community was murdered.

Joking is fine, just be sure that it can't be mistaken for being serious.

[Gilligan46]

Exactly correct, however you have not suggested that someone do whatever they wish to someone without their consent. The post I responded to, did exactly that.

Perhaps you guys forget that people come here to get advice / knowledge of what goes on. Suggesting that one act in a manner inconsistent with acceptable norms of this "hobby," is at best, bad judgement. At worst, it could result in serious injury or death. If you think I am overstating the case, it wasn't so long ago that a member of the local community was murdered.

Joking is fine, just be sure that it can't be mistaken for being serious.Consent was the start of this issue. My first comment was "just ask her".

[CuteAndCoo2]

Does anyone know if she is still in Tucson? She is from this state, just not this city. Wondering if she went back for the holidays already. A tad early if she did. Because there is Christmas money still to be made. Thanks for any info. I wanted to get a little Christmas cheer before she leaves.

[Kurvie]

*New here* just did a lunch visit to venom recently and love the setup. Was looking for a good black / mixed girl to request.

[Kurvie]

*new here* Recently visited Venom during dayshift, love the setup. Do they any hot slim black / mixed girls I should request? Is there a better selection elsewhere with a similar setup?

[CuteAndCoo2]

*new here* Recently visited Venom during dayshift, love the setup. Do they any hot slim black / mixed girls I should request? Is there a better selection elsewhere with a similar setup?Venom doesn't have a kitchen. You must be talking about the snack machine lunch. Or the all you can eat nachos from time-to-time.

[Kurvie]

Venom doesn't have a kitchen. You must be talking about the snack machine lunch. Or the all you can eat nachos from time-to-time.I ment to say dayshift. Don't think I would eat anything there.

[TucsonNewbie]

Venom doesn't have a kitchen. You must be talking about the snack machine lunch. Or the all you can eat nachos from time-to-time.I am a fan of the pretty much all you can eat pussy at Venom.

[Buschman]

Stopped off last thurs the 18th. I got there around 1 and stayed till 4 in the aft. I met Pow- Pow, Amanda and one gal I can't member her name. Young -white brown hair and freckles green eyes a nice booty -- got table dances from those 3 only as they all had dark hair and short and petite-- most off the gals there were on the large end of the spectrum -inquire about extras fom the three and they were all pretty evasive so I declined -- my mileage on the floor was really pretty mild compared to the old candy store days but maybe it will get better on my next visit to tucson. Adios all be back in a coupla months.

[GordonCole1138]

I paid a visit to Venom, this past Tuesday. After a few dances, including a decent one with Veronica, had fun with the always dependable and friendly Diane (or Diana, I always forget!) in the cabana. About a Benjamin later, and I left a happy camper.

[Kurvie]

Went to Venom and had a chance to enjoy time with Aaliyah. Jackson and Jackson got me into the cabana, where Benjamin and some others made extras available upon request. Well worth it.

[Feaster69]

So I just heard Venom will be open Christmas night. Pretty sure Amie will not be working but will be there tomorrow.

[IronDutch]

Does anyone remember a dancer by the name of Lauren who used to work at curves? Hot little Cuban mix.

[CapAndCoke]

Does anyone know what happened to Marie? Who used to work at Tds east?

[TucsonNewbie]

Does anyone know what happened to Marie? Who used to work at Tds east?Last I saw she was at the Boat.

[CuteAndCoo2]

Last I saw she was at the Boat.Are you talking about the Marie that had the big bolt on boobs placed on within the last year prior to the fire? And she worked just day shift hours due to kids in school? I had heard someone was taking care of her. I haven't seen her at the boat, unless it was within the last few months or so. The one that was a great time in VIP? I think we are talking about the same dancer. Very very popular. Be safe. Play safe.

[TucsonNewbie]

Are you talking about the Marie that had the big bolt on boobs placed on within the last year prior to the fire? And she worked just day shift hours due to kids in school? I had heard someone was taking care of her. I haven't seen her at the boat, unless it was within the last few months or so. The one that was a great time in VIP? I think we are talking about the same dancer. Very very popular. Be safe. Play safe.One and the same I am pretty sure. But this was a couple months ago. Sorry if the time frame was misleading.

[Stripper Luv]

I visited 3 clubs the day after Christmas--a Friday. Two of the clubs were successful adventures. But Tens was a mess. It seems that Tens still has a hiring policy of "homely trailer park white trash" only. This club desperately needs two things: diversity and dancers with curves. I've never seen so many anorexic bottle blondes in one club. The waitress was more shapely than any of the dancers. There wasn't a single dancer worth spending money on. This was the middle of a Friday afternoon. It seems like there ought to be someone of interest among the dozen or so dancers.

[DesertDenizen1]

I visited 3 clubs the day after Christmas--a Friday. Two of the clubs were successful adventures. But Tens was a mess. It seems that Tens still has a hiring policy of "homely trailer park white trash" only. This club desperately needs two things: diversity and dancers with curves. I've never seen so many anorexic bottle blondes in one club. The waitress was more shapely than any of the dancers. There wasn't a single dancer worth spending money on. This was the middle of a Friday afternoon. It seems like there ought to be someone of interest among the dozen or so dancers.I need to go there. I love the thin ones. The thinner the better for me. Thanks for the report.

[TxSpeed]

Met a curvy latina at venom. By the name of paloma. She's a dayshift along with her curvy cousin. They seem to be up for alot except FS. Anyways paid the cabana fee for paloma. Had hell great time. Couple of licks but would nt BBBJ. Oh well. She let FIV and happy ending for me. Overall a decent experience. I would say about a 6. Something to blow a load at. Nothing I would go out of my way to see.

[ScarabReturns]

I need to go there. I love the thin ones. The thinner the better for me. Thanks for the report.Save your money and gas, call Snowflower. She does home delivery.

[DesertBeachBum]

While we're talking about TD's vets, anyone know what happened to Scarlett (worked daytimes)? She may not have stuck out in many people's minds, but she was cute, sweet, and actually fairly intelligent. I'd like to see her again if I have the chance. Thanks.

[DesertDenizen1]

Save your money and gas, call Snowflower. She does home delivery.She was my regular for two years. Great gal. Then I cancelled once, with 24 hours notice, and now she won't have anything to do with me. I guess business must be good. I miss her perfect lithe body.

[jymjim]

Finally got to see Nina for some dances 2 weeks ago and took her back to cabanas. She is a young short, curvey ebony gal with a cute face.

While her floor dances are ok to good, she was pretty boring in the cabanas, won't repeat.

Anyone know if Barbie has fun in the cabanas? No details please just a general idea if its worth going back there with her.

Seems like the younger gals I see are less fun overall behind the curtain, the more experienced women know what to do and like to enjoy themselves as well.

I'm still wondering what happened to ex-TD blonde-curvey, Destiny who was at Venom for a few months, she fell off the radar again.

Thanks,

J.

[TucsonNewbie]

Finally got to see Nina for some dances 2 weeks ago and took her back to cabanas. She is a young short, curvey ebony gal with a cute face.

While her floor dances are ok to good, she was pretty boring in the cabanas, won't repeat.

Anyone know if Barbie has fun in the cabanas? No details please just a general idea if its worth going back there with her.

Seems like the younger gals I see are less fun overall behind the curtain, the more experienced women know what to do and like to enjoy themselves as well.

I'm still wondering what happened to ex-TD blonde-curvey, Destiny who was at Venom for a few months, she fell off the radar again.

Thanks,

J.If you are referring to the african american that dances under the name Barbie, no she doesn't play. But if one favors that persuasion of women, then they neednt look far at venom for satisfaction.

[Chica Luv]

Paloma's cousin is Sulekha. She is also very curvy and maybe a little younger. Very nice gal. I saw her come into work late Saturday afternoon, between 5-6 pm. As soon as she came out of the dressing room she was sitting in my lap.

We exchanged a few words in Spanish, and she convinced me that a trip to the cabana would be well worth my time.

Once in the cabana I didn't waste any time letting her know what my intentions were. Within moments there was breast licking and DATY, and within minutes CFS CG and RCG. It didn't take long and the session was over. Probably 2-3 songs and the deed was done.

Very sexy girl with all the right skills. I would definitely repeat.

YMMV.

Chica Luv.


Met a curvy latina at venom. By the name of paloma. She's a dayshift along with her curvy cousin. They seem to be up for alot except FS. Anyways paid the cabana fee for paloma. Had hell great time. Couple of licks but would nt BBBJ. Oh well. She let FIV and happy ending for me. Overall a decent experience. I would say about a 6. Something to blow a load at. Nothing I would go out of my way to see.

[Member #3235]

Hello gents first time in along time, but I need help. Have an interest in a Venom dancer by the name of little Lady, if anyone can give details pm or otherwise I would greatly appreciate it. Need a little guidance since I have been on the shelf for a bit.

[TxSpeed]

Ok so Sunday late afternoon.

Jennifer. Cute little asian older but nice looking spinner w bolt ons.

She friendly and talkative on the floor. She migjt be worth cabana time if you like. On the floor she quotes out crazy high $$.

But ended up on $ in cabana. For $ she does good HJ and lots of hands on. Just don't give into the high price she says. I told her that's all I had and she took it. Funny just like AMP s she says next time bring more.

[Gilligan46]

Ok so Sunday late afternoon.

Jennifer. Cute little asian older but nice looking spinner w bolt ons.

She friendly and talkative on the floor. She migjt be worth cabana time if you like. On the floor she quotes out crazy high $$.

But ended up on $ in cabana. For $ she does good HJ and lots of hands on. Just don't give into the high price she says. I told her that's all I had and she took it. Funny just like AMP s she says next time bring more.There are many at venom that for $ will do BBBJ.

[Jim2206]

There are many at venom that for $ will do BBBJ.Hi gilligan,

Any hot blondes that fall into this category?

[Desert Rat 520]

I visited 3 clubs the day after Christmas--a Friday. Two of the clubs were successful adventures. But Tens was a mess. It seems that Tens still has a hiring policy of "homely trailer park white trash" only. This club desperately needs two things: diversity and dancers with curves. I've never seen so many anorexic bottle blondes in one club. The waitress was more shapely than any of the dancers. There wasn't a single dancer worth spending money on. This was the middle of a Friday afternoon. It seems like there ought to be someone of interest among the dozen or so dancers.That's odd. Every time I go there, it is nothing but fat mexican and black "ghetto trash. ".

Maybe they have themed "trash" days.

In the last couple years, that place has fallen apart.

They need to re-brand themselves, or they are going to become the next TDs east.

[Stripper Luv]

That's odd. Every time I go there, it is nothing but fat mexican and black "ghetto trash. ".

Maybe they have themed "trash" days.

In the last couple years, that place has fallen apart.

They need to re-brand themselves, or they are going to become the next TDs east.OMG, are we going to the same club? LOL.

Tens is such a disappointment and, IMHO, a Tucson strip club disgrace.

I've been f**king one of the Tens dancers outside the club for about three years. Even she says the dancers they hire are skinny cocaine-addicted white trash. It's pathetic who gets hired there. The dancer I've been playing with is the exception to the rule. Tens ends the year at the bottom of my list of Tucson strip clubs in terms of dancer quality, club sex opportunity, stages, hospitality, and management.

[jymjim]

Just hard to believe Ten's is worse than the Boat, a year ago Ten's seemed ok to me.

The Boat hit the bottom of my list last year and is still stuck in the muck for many reasons.

Venom is in the top half for sure, I haven't been to curves or TD west much so I can't figure them into a ranking.

What happened to all the athletic dancers you used to see in this town 10 years ago? Hardly any buff babes at the clubs anymore, kinda sad.

J.


OMG, are we going to the same club? LOL.

Tens is such a disappointment and, IMHO, a Tucson strip club disgrace.

I've been f**king one of the Tens dancers outside the club for about three years. Even she says the dancers they hire are skinny cocaine-addicted white trash. It's pathetic who gets hired there. The dancer I've been playing with is the exception to the rule. Tens ends the year at the bottom of my list of Tucson strip clubs in terms of dancer quality, club sex opportunity, stages, hospitality, and management.

[Stripper Luv]

Just hard to believe Ten's is worse than the Boat, a year ago Ten's seemed ok to me.

The Boat hit the bottom of my list last year and is still stuck in the muck for many reasons.

Venom is in the top half for sure, I haven't been to curves or TD west much so I can't figure them into a ranking.

What happened to all the athletic dancers you used to see in this town 10 years ago? Hardly any buff babes at the clubs anymore, kinda sad.

J.My assessment is just my opinion. Others are likely to have their own opinion. I would have rated Raiders below Tens except for one thing--plenty of extras are still available from a variety of dancers. Yes, Raiders is where dancers go to die, but they know how to handle the equipment and don't need to be trained. There are a few gems there. Can't say the same about Tens. My opinion.

[RedTail]

Stopped by Tens for the first time on Saturday. Not great but I had a decent time. I was looking for a dancer I know OTC but the place was packed. Both the girl I was looking for, and a dancer I met that night both told me Tens is a great friendly place for them to work at. Of course they have a much different perspective than we do.

I found mostly slim, small breasted girls on Saturday. But did find a nice looking black girl working who gave me some nice hands on lap dances. Nothing over the top or extra type activity but nice for a first visit.

She also told me she heard TDs East was close to re-opening? Like next week or so?

[Juicy Amie69]

Just wanted to let you know that I have the next four days off and had a few cancelations for my dungeon, so if you are interested please message me and we can work something out.

Also wanted to say I am Juicy Amie from Candy Store days, so those of you that would like to get reacquainted please do.

XOXO.

Juicy Amie.

[Achmed46]

Hi gilligan,

Any hot blondes that fall into this category?Did not see any hot blondes on Sunday. Did however see a few that wanted to do the cabanas. One very young petite brunette just showed me everything at a table dance. She pulled her g string down to show me her kitty. I told her it was too dark for me to see it. So she grabbed her cell phone and lit it up for me. Then she turned with her backside to my face and pulled her cheeks apart while I held the light. That spread open kitty is etched in my memory now.

Would have gone into a cabana with her but at my age, I can't do that every day. LOL seems live venom is turning into a ***** house.

Not complaint though.

[TucsonNewbie]

Did not see any hot blondes on Sunday. Did however see a few that wanted to do the cabanas. One very young petite brunette just showed me everything at a table dance. She pulled her g string down to show me her kitty. I told her it was too dark for me to see it. So she grabbed her cell phone and lit it up for me. Then she turned with her backside to my face and pulled her cheeks apart while I held the light. That spread open kitty is etched in my memory now.

Would have gone into a cabana with her but at my age, I can't do that every day. LOL seems live venom is turning into a ***** house.

Not complaint though.This sounds like either Royce or Aliyah (sp? Was into Venom on Sunday and both did the same for me. Royce is high mileage from what I saw though. Within 30 minutes she was in and out of the cabana with 4 clients. No less ran to the dressing room before each one. Aliyah though I did trip to the cabanas with. I must say that is the tightest I have ever experienced.

[Achmed46]

Can't get any better than having two dancers competing to give the best BBBJ. I just love our free enterprise system.

[SmokeShopJoe]

While I was at Venom today I heard a dancer say that TD's east was opening Feb 5. Their Facebook page also says the same thing and when I drove by they have painted it purple. Hopefully they adopt a Venomesque model.

As a side note don't go barking up the Aubrey tree at Venom. Firstly she needs a shower. Secondly she needs to learn how to give a lap dance that doesn't crush my nuts. Lastly when you ask a guy why he is there and he says "to see titties" and then says yes to a lap dance, turn the fuck around so they can see them. But if that sounds like fun then Aubrey is your gal.

I think I need to go back to check out Kate or Jasmine, that DJ either sucks or is phoning it in as he plans on going back to TD's in two weeks.

[Feaster69]

I really miss the days when someone wanted a private and had fun playing spin the Amie with me. Now it's no way hubby can't be there.

[DesertDenizen1]

Did not see any hot blondes on Sunday. Did however see a few that wanted to do the cabanas. One very young petite brunette just showed me everything at a table dance. She pulled her g string down to show me her kitty. I told her it was too dark for me to see it. So she grabbed her cell phone and lit it up for me. Then she turned with her backside to my face and pulled her cheeks apart while I held the light. That spread open kitty is etched in my memory now.

Would have gone into a cabana with her but at my age, I can't do that every day. LOL seems live venom is turning into a ***** house.

Not complaint though.That sounds great. Did you get a name?

[Achmed46]

That sounds great. Did you get a name?Sorry I did not get a name. She was a bit high on something. Kinda flitted around the club. If I see her again I will drag her into a cabana for 1/2 an hour. By the way. Never pay the PER SONG rate in the cabana. Negotiate a flat rate for however long it takes to get whatever you want done. That way there is no argument about how many DANCES you owe for.

[ShallowMan62]

I really miss the days when someone wanted a private and had fun playing spin the Amie with me. Now it's no way hubby can't be there.Feaster you should just thank God for the good times you had. You old perv LOL. None of the rest of us has such an aggreable companion.

[Juicy Amie69]

Everyone keeps asking but I only kind of have one. I am working today and will post next week's this weekend.

XOXO.

Amie.

[Achmed46]

Stopped by the boat today. Blond by the name of Esmeralda did and AIR DANCE. What a waste. No touching. Just kept moving my hands away. Why pay for the same thing you can see on the stage for free? Then she seemed rather pissed because I refused a second dance. DO NOT BOTHER with her. Maybe she will learn after makon very little money. She nerds to understand the competition is kicking her ass.

[Feaster69]

Feaster you should just thank God for the good times you had. You old perv LOL. None of the rest of us has such an aggreable companion.It's still nice to hope there are some open minded guys out there or at least daring enough to give it a try at least once. I am thankful of the good times I guess it's just a different breed of monger these days. Just FYI our dungeon is coming along very well. Amie is becoming quite the mistress these days.

[ShallowMan62]

Went to TDs West yesterday for my Birthday present to myself. I would like to thank all the ladies and I do mean all. I never had so many ladies blowing out my Birthday candle. Lucky I took a little blue pill so I could enjoy everybodies attention!

[jymjim]

Went to TDs West yesterday for my Birthday present to myself. I would like to thank all the ladies and I do mean all. I never had so many ladies blowing out my Birthday candle. Lucky I took a little blue pill so I could enjoy everybodies attention!Is the VIP area ok for fun? When I was in there a year ago it was bright and a bit wide open for fun.

Thanks,

J.

[Chica Luv]

I've visited Venoms several times during the last few weeks. My report follows:

CJ- Youngish hot mixed Latina. Total fun in the Cabana w / CFS & BBBJ, $. 5 & $ respectively, DATY and DFK. Nice enough personality, but very direct and business like. I would not spent any more time or money on CJ. $. 5 for CFS in a club is too much. I can have lots more fun, for less $ with BP escort Elsa in the privacy of a bedroom.

Linda- No-so youngish hot Latina. Total fun in the Cabana. All the same options, at nearly 1/2 the price. PLUS, she has a very outgoing and friendly personality.

As always, YMMV.

Chica Luv.

[jymjim]

I stopped in Venom as Regina told me she'd be in and wanted to see me, but unfortunately she was busy on the floor for 2 hours with some dude who was a very big fan (kinda wish she'd given me an idea it would be a lengthy wait) , made the mistake of getting a dance from a asian gal who is mostly air dance, then next mistake from a ebony gal who was fun and hot and bothered on the floor and then promised alot more in cabana's. But once in the cabanas she ran hot and cold and demanded an extra tip (for what exactly I have no idea), last time I ever get a dance from her (sorry I can't recall her name, older, thin, nice chest and legs, wicked smile).

Until my I see my regular dancer return from her break (Destiny from TD's), I'm taking a break from the club's, fun for a while.

Better luck to you guys.

J.

[Chico12]

Has any one seen roxy at the boat lately, in the last week?

Have her number it seems to be off, wondering if she's still in town or should I just start looking for other providers.

[ShallowMan62]

Went to Tds on Thurs. I have been going to titty bars for 44 yrs. I have seen some guys make it rain. But there was a guy there who did it for an hour and a half< and must have thrown out 4000 dollars. Great day for the girls but the rest of the customers had to go away with blue balls because no girl in the club went more than 10 ft. From this guy. A great day for the girls though, they had to keep cashing in all the money they got crawling around on the floor so the guy could by them back and throw them around again. They were picking it up with buckets!

[Stripper Luv]

Opening on Monday February 2nd.

[Chico12]

Has any one seen Brittany lately? Is she still around had her number it seems to be off.

[Juicy Amie69]

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[Mtnboy49]

Went to Tds on Thurs. I have been going to titty bars for 44 yrs. I have seen some guys make it rain. But there was a guy there who did it for an hour and a half< and must have thrown out 4000 dollars. Great day for the girls but the rest of the customers had to go away with blue balls because no girl in the club went more than 10 ft. From this guy. A great day for the girls though, they had to keep cashing in all the money they got crawling around on the floor so the guy could by them back and throw them around again. They were picking it up with buckets!I befriended a guy like this in SLC in Dec. From NY. Hispanic. Friendly as hell. Took a liking to me, would change 100 at a time, give me half and throw handsful at a time.

He was in there about 2 hrs. His driver came for him and took him to airport.

[CuteAndCoo2]

? No reports yet?? ? Most likely I will have one tonight, or tomorrow at some point.

[Kirstyforme]

? No reports yet?? ? Most likely I will have one tonight, or tomorrow at some point.I didn't make it in there yet, but I did hear they re-opened yesterday. Probably worth a visit to see the new club.

[Kirstyforme]

I think it's time for me to come back to the forum that gave much to my learning in year's past. I never took a break from the club scene but I did bow out of the online activities due to some f'd up legal issues. That's all done now so I'm just saying, I'm back! Time to party!

[CuteAndCoo2]

Wow. I went earlier around 2 pm and I would say that the club is definitely the nicest in town. And it looks like they are trying to cater to the wealthy 3 percent of our wealthy locals and Gem Show visitors. I still can't see paying 6. 50 for a bottle of water. No kitchen yet. I asked one of the waitresses and she wasn't too sure. Peeked in there larger VIP section fully loaded with nice leather couches with no visible cameras above. That was nice not to see. Not sure about cover since it was day time. I'm assuming 10 bucks for a 30 day cover. I was also surprised that there wasn't a flock of dancers trying to get into the new club. There were maybe 5 dancers which I thought there would be no less than 15. There were 15-20 at Vernon at 3 pm. Sorry I didn't venture in play time since I get paid tomorrow. Be safe. Play safe.

[Juicy Amie69]

I think it's time for me to come back to the forum that gave much to my learning in year's past. I never took a break from the club scene but I did bow out of the online activities due to some f'd up legal issues. That's all done now so I'm just saying, I'm back! Time to party!Nice to finally have you back get out there and start playing!

[Stripper Luv]

This morning I heard from a dancer that there was a shooting at TDs West last night. I don't know any more details.

[Uncivil]

This morning I heard from a dancer that there was a shooting at TDs West last night. I don't know any more details.I am not surprised in the slightest. Judging by the clientele they attract it is a wonder why there isn't a shooting there every night. That's why I stay as far away from that place as I possibly can get.

[Stripper Luv]

I am not surprised in the slightest. Judging by the clientele they attract it is a wonder why there isn't a shooting there every night. That's why I stay as far away from that place as I possibly can get.The dancer said that the club was full of young thugs last night.

But, if my memory is correct, I think all the major clubs have had shootings. I like going during the day to the clubs-- less drama and more laid back. The thugs are all still in bed or else doing whatever thugs do when the sun is up instead of shooting up strip clubs. Candy Store had two shootings only a couple of weeks apart which led to the end of that venerable establishment. Ten's had a shooting not long ago. TDs west had a bouncer shot not long ago. Raiders had gun play. All of these happened late at night or at closing.

[Desert Rat 520]

What was the quality of the dancers compared to other clubs / what they used to employ? I am hoping they have established higher standards for their women if they are trying to be the elite club in town?


Wow. I went earlier around 2 pm and I would say that the club is definitely the nicest in town. And it looks like they are trying to cater to the wealthy 3 percent of our wealthy locals and Gem Show visitors. I still can't see paying 6. 50 for a bottle of water. No kitchen yet. I asked one of the waitresses and she wasn't too sure. Peeked in there larger VIP section fully loaded with nice leather couches with no visible cameras above. That was nice not to see. Not sure about cover since it was day time. I'm assuming 10 bucks for a 30 day cover. I was also surprised that there wasn't a flock of dancers trying to get into the new club. There were maybe 5 dancers which I thought there would be no less than 15. There were 15-20 at Vernon at 3 pm. Sorry I didn't venture in play time since I get paid tomorrow. Be safe. Play safe.

[Desert Rat 520]

So I stopped in TDs East Sunday, mid-afternoon.

They did a pretty good job with the remodel, but could still use a couple changes / fixes to make it better, in my opinion.

However, it was dead. Granted, mid-afternoon on a Sunday is not the most exciting time to be at a club, but I'd wager every other club in town had more customers at that moment.

Recognized the waitress and bartender from before the fire, as well as a couple dancers. Also recognized one of the dancers for a backpage ad, so pretty sure you'll find take-out.

Alcohol is still absurdly priced: $8 for a pint of beer.

Business was so slow, they made the bartender dance.

The only people there were the manager's friends. A couple people popped in to see how it looked, but quickly left because it was so dead. Didn't even finish their drinks.

To be fair and give them the benefit of the doubt, I'll have to visit on a Friday or Saturday night to decide whether it was a smart move for them to re-open, or if they should just have another fire and find a new line of work.

[Chica Luv]

Visited Venoms and had Cabana sessions with two different Latina gals.

#1.

-Great dancing skills. Stated that she didn't do BJ or FS in club, but gave me her phone number for outside the club meeting. She did however end the last song with a BBBJ. I guess to emphasis that she would be worth an outside visit.

-I deleted her number as soon as I left as I just wasn't that interested in anything that required me to get a room outside of the club.

#2.

-A little meatier than #1, but was nice looking with a great set of hips. Dance wasn't that good but I was quick to establish what my desires were. She agreed to BBBJ, which was good but I topically need FS to achieve my desired results. We came to an agreement. In the end we both left happy. I didn't get her number, although it was offered.

I share the above to let those interested know that the dayshift at Venoms has lots to offer. I know at least 6 different gals there that can and will help you rise to the occasion.

Senior members can PM for additional details.

CL.

[Uncivil]

What does this cost?


Visited Venoms and had Cabana sessions with two different Latina gals.

#1.

-Great dancing skills. Stated that she didn't do BJ or FS in club, but gave me her phone number for outside the club meeting. She did however end the last song with a BBBJ. I guess to emphasis that she would be worth an outside visit.

-I deleted her number as soon as I left as I just wasn't that interested in anything that required me to get a room outside of the club.

#2.

-A little meatier than #1, but was nice looking with a great set of hips. Dance wasn't that good but I was quick to establish what my desires were. She agreed to BBBJ, which was good but I topically need FS to achieve my desired results. We came to an agreement. In the end we both left happy. I didn't get her number, although it was offered.

I share the above to let those interested know that the dayshift at Venoms has lots to offer. I know at least 6 different gals there that can and will help you rise to the occasion.

Senior members can PM for additional details.

CL.

[Chica Luv]

It cost as much as they can tease you into paying them.

LOL.

On a more serious note.

Depends on the girl, how much money she still needs to make that day and what type of relation ship might have developed with her through the days, months. Etc. Some gals might consider. 8 while I've had other quote $$.

Also, I've found that the day shift gals are more in tune with providing the best price-to-service ratios. For me, the Latinas usually just plain like to please a man. That is how they are genetically engineered.

YMMV.

CL.


What does this cost?

[JDSax7]

I got into town yesterday afternoon and decided to check out TD's East last night. I like that it's not nearly as dark inside as I remember.

I got there a little after 7 pm. In the first 30 minutes there I saw only ONE dancer actually dance. She was just taking the stage as I walked in. Meanwhile, I saw 3 different waitresses walking around in that time. Once the girl on stage finished her set, they went straight into "table dance only" songs. I counted about 6 songs for that. Was about to leave when another dancer finally took the stage.

In all, I was there a little more than an hour and saw just 4 girls total actually dance.

When I got there, the waitress took my drink order. Domestic bottled beer and a bottle of water cost me $13.50. Holy smokes!

Talked to my cocktail waitress for a few minutes. She said she recently turned 21 and was on her 4th day ever working in a club. According to her, the night before (Tuesday) was busier. I might check it out again Friday or Saturday to see if it gets any better.

I get the feeling it's only as slow as it is because it's still kind of new. It should pick up in time, but I doubt it finds it way to one of the busiest clubs in Tucson unless they come down on some of their prices.

[Kanye West]

Did anybody get FS while she was still at venom? I missed her doing anything really good at venom. Now that she's at east I'm wondering if it will be the same?

[Chica Luv]

Went by Venoms hoping to find at least one of my ATF's, but it seem that all were off with their Valentine.

Sometimes NOT find one's previous ATF is a good thing, and that seemed to be the case this weekend when I discovered a new friend.

I have visited Venoms numerous times and had seen / spoken with Carmen on many of those occasions. However, for whatever reason I had never had any dances / cabana visits with her before.

Well today was different!

Much to my surprise Carmen, provide me with a very enjoyable visit. She is a very shapely gal, with a great figure. Not only is she very pleasant to talk with, she also can leave you speechless during / after a cabana visit.

I really enjoyed our time together, had ALL my questions answered and I look forward to many repeat visits with her in the future.

YMMV.

CL.

[Racsan]

I haven't been to an American strip club in 20 years, but I've got to check Venom out, maybe next week. This will be interesting. We will see what kind of story I have to tell afterwards. LOL.

[DesertBeachBum]

I'm just curious as to whether this happens to other people as well. I was eating at a fast food restaurant down on Valencia and I saw a couple girls in there who didn't stick too much out of the ordinary, but I thought "I've never met them before, but I bet they'd motorboat me if I put a dollar bill in their g-string. " I don't know what it was about them, but there was some inherent "stripperness" quality even though they were just wearing something that your typical 18-21 year old would wear. I'm guessing if I went to Turbulence (or whatever it's called now) later in the day I'd see them there.

Is this feeling of having stripper-dar something that others in this area of interest have?

[DesertsWellWe]

I frequent Venom and have had absolutely no luck at all in the cabana.


Visited Venoms and had Cabana sessions with two different Latina gals.

#1.

-Great dancing skills. Stated that she didn't do BJ or FS in club, but gave me her phone number for outside the club meeting. She did however end the last song with a BBBJ. I guess to emphasis that she would be worth an outside visit.

-I deleted her number as soon as I left as I just wasn't that interested in anything that required me to get a room outside of the club.

#2.

-A little meatier than #1, but was nice looking with a great set of hips. Dance wasn't that good but I was quick to establish what my desires were. She agreed to BBBJ, which was good but I topically need FS to achieve my desired results. We came to an agreement. In the end we both left happy. I didn't get her number, although it was offered.

I share the above to let those interested know that the dayshift at Venoms has lots to offer. I know at least 6 different gals there that can and will help you rise to the occasion.

Senior members can PM for additional details.

CL.

[Chica Luv]

Sorry to hear that you haven't had any luck in the cabana. Most members would love to share names with you.

However, it's hard to offer suggestions if we don't know anything about your previous experiences. So, you might consider sharing with the forum the names of the dancers and your experiences with them during those frequent visits, to include how you approached them.

Also, RTFF. There are numerous names listed along with details of how it all went down.

Good luck,

CL.


I frequent Venom and have had absolutely no luck at all in the cabana.

[Achmed46]

I frequent Venom and have had absolutely no luck at all in the cabana.There are many gals at venom that do a fabulous job in the cabañas. Try CJ. Very oral gal. And a few even did me a wonderful service outside the cabañas. Go between 11 am and 3 pm.

[CuteAndCoo2]

Sorry to hear that you haven't had any luck in the cabana. Most members would love to share names with you.

However, it's hard to offer suggestions if we don't know anything about your previous experiences. So, you might consider sharing with the forum the names of the dancers and your experiences with them during those frequent visits, to include how you approached them.

Also, RTFF. There are numerous names listed along with details of how it all went down.

Good luck,

CL.If you frequent Venom, or any of the local strip clubs, for that matter. You will find someone very very easily to play with. I'm hoping that most mongers in the strip club section can agree. I don't know if this is a tad paranoia, but I've noticed more recently 2 guys sitting along the back wall observing and texting. But NO dances on the floor, or in the Cabanas. I can't understand why that would be your FIRST question or statement. Just asking. This isn't an attempt to be argumentative, just curious. Please share an experience you've had. Please share. Be safe. Play safe.

[DesertsWellWe]

If you frequent Venom, or any of the local strip clubs, for that matter. You will find someone very very easily to play with. I'm hoping that most mongers in the strip club section can agree. I don't know if this is a tad paranoia, but I've noticed more recently 2 guys sitting along the back wall observing and texting. But NO dances on the floor, or in the Cabanas. I can't understand why that would be your FIRST question or statement. Just asking. This isn't an attempt to be argumentative, just curious. Please share an experience you've had. Please share. Be safe. Play safe.I know I have tried when I see someone cute I go for it and I am not playing on my phone at all just trying to get to business. I was thinking backpage might be better for what I am looking for but I want to see the merchanside so I pick strip clubs.

[DesertsWellWe]

Sorry to hear that you haven't had any luck in the cabana. Most members would love to share names with you.

However, it's hard to offer suggestions if we don't know anything about your previous experiences. So, you might consider sharing with the forum the names of the dancers and your experiences with them during those frequent visits, to include how you approached them.

Also, RTFF. There are numerous names listed along with details of how it all went down.

Good luck,

CL.Well I have approached Ebia I think her stage name is Carmen short thick latina. I have approached LaLa. Victoria, Asia, Hennessey, Nubia, Lyric and a few names I can't remember. One I remember is petite great on the stage with her pole tricks recently shaved the side of her hair. But I can say my failings are not from lack of effort.

As for my approach. We talk for a short while I get a dance ask what do I get if I go in the cabana I use to ask can I see her outside the club before they put in the cabanas. Once we are in there I wait for her to try something if she doesn't after the first song she dances to then I request her to do something extra.

[DesertsWellWe]

Anyone seen Foxy recently. I met her a few years ago at Venom and asked about her there and they said she move to the boat and I saw her once there and I was working and couldn't stay and never saw her again until I was in Olive Garden on Craycroft and Broadway.

She is Phillipino and vvery sexy great body pretty face.

[DesertsWellWe]

Today I tried the boat to see if I would get some luck since I wasnt having any at Venom.

Ran into Tiffany. Cute after a longer than I wanted to conversation about her being a truck driver and her dad buying her a trailor we go into the champagne room she gave me a very weak HHHJ for 8 songs at $20 a pop. I paid her and it was definately wasted money. She offered me her number and I put it in my phone but I doubt if I use it ever.

[DesertsWellWe]

Well I have approached Ebia I think her stage name is Carmen short thick latina. I have approached LaLa. Victoria, Asia, Hennessey, Nubia, Lyric and a few names I can't remember. One I remember is petite great on the stage with her pole tricks recently shaved the side of her hair. But I can say my failings are not from lack of effort.

As for my approach. We talk for a short while I get a dance ask what do I get if I go in the cabana I use to ask can I see her outside the club before they put in the cabanas. Once we are in there I wait for her to try something if she doesn't after the first song she dances to then I request her to do something extra.The other girl I was trying to think of petite with the pole tricks is Riley.

[Chica Luv]

DWW.

Sorry to hear that you're not getting the responses that you are wanting. What you are experiencing is very similar to what many of us experienced early on in this hobby. There is an old saying, "Sometimes education is expensive".

If you have time, read post #2871. It is what I decided to use as a general rule when trying to get the most from my time and money in Strip Clubs.

Also general rules that work for me:

- I usually see Latinas.

- I usually go to Venoms.

- I usually go during the day shift, between 11 AM-3 PM.

Using the guidelines in post #2871 and the above general rule, I have +98% success rate.

Good luck.

YMMV.

CL.


Today I tried the boat to see if I would get some luck since I wasnt having any at Venom.

Ran into Tiffany. Cute after a longer than I wanted to conversation about her being a truck driver and her dad buying her a trailor we go into the champagne room she gave me a very weak HHHJ for 8 songs at $20 a pop. I paid her and it was definately wasted money. She offered me her number and I put it in my phone but I doubt if I use it ever.

[Chica Luv]

SL.

Thank again for the recommendation at Venoms.

I had a great visit with the Black haired gal with the tattoos. We reminisced about the Candy Store days, and our mutual friends.

Her skills in the Cabana were everything I've come to expect from anyone that has the SL seal of approval.

Thanks again,

CL.


The dancer said that the club was full of young thugs last night.

But, if my memory is correct, I think all the major clubs have had shootings. I like going during the day to the clubs-- less drama and more laid back. The thugs are all still in bed or else doing whatever thugs do when the sun is up instead of shooting up strip clubs. Candy Store had two shootings only a couple of weeks apart which led to the end of that venerable establishment. Ten's had a shooting not long ago. TDs west had a bouncer shot not long ago. Raiders had gun play. All of these happened late at night or at closing.

[Juicy Amie69]

Best advice, act like a gentleman. Going into the club and treating the ladies like you can get whatever you want and that their feelings don't matter will get you no where. We talk about everything and it spreads like wildfire, so if you are disrespectful to one the rest will treat you the same way.

Coming in smelling like BO, not chewing gum to make your breath smell better makes the ladies know not to spend too much time with you.

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[YDiner_Otown]

Well I have approached Ebia I think her stage name is Carmen short thick latina. I have approached LaLa. Victoria, Asia, Hennessey, Nubia, Lyric and a few names I can't remember. One I remember is petite great on the stage with her pole tricks recently shaved the side of her hair. But I can say my failings are not from lack of effort.

As for my approach. We talk for a short while I get a dance ask what do I get if I go in the cabana I use to ask can I see her outside the club before they put in the cabanas. Once we are in there I wait for her to try something if she doesn't after the first song she dances to then I request her to do something extra.DesertsWellWe, you can't be so upfront with them. Especially Carmen. She has specifically told me that she will NOT with someone who is blatantly negotiating right away.

[DesertsWellWe]

DesertsWellWe, you can't be so upfront with them. Especially Carmen. She has specifically told me that she will NOT with someone who is blatantly negotiating right away.Thank you for the info.

[Ready 007]

Well I have approached Ebia I think her stage name is Carmen short thick latina. I have approached LaLa. Victoria, Asia, Hennessey, Nubia, Lyric and a few names I can't remember. One I remember is petite great on the stage with her pole tricks recently shaved the side of her hair. But I can say my failings are not from lack of effort.

As for my approach. We talk for a short while I get a dance ask what do I get if I go in the cabana I use to ask can I see her outside the club before they put in the cabanas. Once we are in there I wait for her to try something if she doesn't after the first song she dances to then I request her to do something extra.I used to see a girl named Hennessey on the streets of 6th. Short BSW type with an attitude and time clock. I haven't seen her on 6th for a while, so has she graduated to the clubs? Same Hennessey?

Be Ready, but careful.

Ready 007.