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Cephlapod Love
08-28-11, 18:13
Well, I made it to Philadelphia only to have my scheduled trip reduced from a week to a single night thanks to Irene. My Philly AMP experience was a single trip to Blue Moon. I'll get a review in once I catch my breath from being home. I hope to go back soon for more in-depth research. What an impressively lively MP scene!
Thanks to all who provided advice, I only wish I could have put it to better use!Maybe we weren't clear enough in our advice. But a one shot at the Philly AMP scene and one would have been advised to spend the cab fare for a trip to Fun City. Odds are in your favor at FC. Hope BM was to your liking and worked out for you, sometimes one gets lucky. Hurry back!
Had the pleasure of seeing Tiffany while I was in town recently. To my surprise, the photos in her Backpage ad are 100 percent accurate,
http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/enjoy-a-sensual-massage-with-tiffany-outcall-only-26/7781536
She's very attractive and her body is incredible. She also has an incredibly sweet personality. Very, very pleasant, friendly and trustworthy. (At least as far as I could tell.)
For a little extra cash, she'll massage you topless or in the nude. Has somewhat weak massage skills. Allows mutual touching. (Seems to really enjoy receiving a little tongue action.) Does not offer BJ or FS. Uses nothing more than her hands to get the job done, which was fine with me. (Heck, I probably would have been fine with simply looking at her amazing body for an hour!) How much extra for nude?
SirCumference
08-29-11, 10:52
Maybe we weren't clear enough in our advice. But a one shot at the Philly AMP scene and one would have been advised to spend the cab fare for a trip to Fun City. Odds are in your favor at FC. Hope BM was to your liking and worked out for you, sometimes one gets lucky. Hurry back!Thanks, CL! I had planned FC for day 2, treating BM as a warm-up to the Philly scene. Mr. Murphy and Ms. Irene had other plans though. If I knew it was to be a one-shot I would have been FC bound in a heartbeat.
BM fulfilled its purpose adequately, especially for a visitor from the Buckle of the Bible Belt where such things simply don't exist.
SirCumference
08-29-11, 11:23
I took a trip to Blue Moon. Mamasan buzzed me in and said that Hanna was the only one available. Mamasan led me to my room, clean and private. Hanna came in and introduced herself in very accented English. She commented on how big I was (I'm well over 6 feet and still have the chest and shoulders of the high school linebacker I once was, even if that's been a while). She's a tiny little thing.
She led me to the table shower room. It's a 2-station room with a curtain down the middle, which I wasn't wild about but as I had it to myself, no harm & no foul. The TS was thorough and relaxing, with a lot of attention to my nether regions.
Back to the room for a massage. She excused herself to wash up, and her outfit came off as soon as she was back. She has very cute, small breasts with very dark nipples-exactly how I like AMP girls. She was shaved except for a little spot right at the top. Very trim body and decent butt. Tasteful tattoo on the lower back. Good fingerwork and lots of pleasant pressure as she knelt on my back. Then came the flip, with some rubbing leading to hugs, kisses on the neck, and my mouth on her nipples to oohs and aahs.
I worked my way lower for a good round of DATY, most of it with her feet on my shoulders giving me full access. She was pleasantly responsive. My only complaint was that she had a little soapy taste, but I can't complain too much as hygiene is in my interest, after all. I lay down and the cover went on, lots of ball kissing and a little tongue work on my bottom. Good blowjob pressure, which I cut off fairly quickly in the interest of things yet to come.
She climbed on CG with a slow grind, eyes closed and head back. We switched to doggie and it was a good visual treat to see how small she was against me. Back to CG for the finish. Dry wipedown, followed by her excusing herself to clean up. She returned shortly with a warm cloth to clean me up. She helped me dress. I tipped her to a warm smile. She gave me a hug and kiss and told me to ask for her next time I was back.
I said goodbye to Hanna and Mamasan, then returned to anonymity on the street with none the wiser.
Face: 7. Pretty, but probably a little more aged than I thought at first glance. Nice white smile.
Body: 8. Petite, trim, and tight.
Attitude: 8. Language barrier was there (I'm from the South and speak fluent Southern!). She was responsive and willing.
Service: 8. Relaxing TS and massage, and she knew what she was doing in all phases of my visit.
Damage: 1. 6 plus tip.
Would I return: Yes. Everything that transpired met my expectations. If I were a local, Blue Moon's frequent visitor card would be of interest to me.
Would I ask for Hanna again: Sure. She was pleasant to look at, accommodating, and I got what I came for!
Cephlapod Love
08-30-11, 10:20
Wow! SirCumference. Great review. Thanks for sharing that. Glad you had a great time at BM!
While Mr Murphy kept you from FC it sounds like he was conspicuously absent from your experience at BM!
Hey, I didn't know the Callowhill Special existed outside of CH / FC! You found a good one.
Stellar review SirCumference! Glad Philly was able to make your visit a positive one. Blue Moon just added to my list of 'must do'.
Basketball
08-31-11, 12:35
Wow! SirCumference. Great review. Thanks for sharing that. Glad you had a great time at BM!
While Mr Murphy kept you from FC it sounds like he was conspicuously absent from your experience at BM!
Hey, I didn't know the Callowhill Special existed outside of CH / FC! You found a good one.I'm sorry if I missed something here. Where did he mention the CH special?
Had opportunity to visit recently, spending time with Sera, who is petite and natural, albeit a bit small for my usual fare. TS was pleasing, thorough, her soft little hands caressing and massaging my body as she hummed. Dried me off and back to the room. After asking me to get comfortable she left and returned to start a little massagi, but that didn't last long since I was intrigued to try other stretching exercises with her, which made us both hungry. After we enjoyed some mutual snacking, and after the raincoat came on she wanted to have a bigger dish. Now I am over 6' and not a skinny guy, but this little one worked me out. Three dishes later, I was happy, and after going to get a hot towel she offered to resume massagi. Little as she is, she was able to give me a nice firm massage, back walking, etc. Finally, there was the knock on the door and our time was up. She helped me dress, offered to get me some water on the way out and walked me to the door to say goodbye to the MS and be on my way.
As usual, FCA is full of gems.
Cephlapod Love
09-03-11, 11:42
I'm sorry if I missed something here. Where did he mention the CH special?I worked my way lower for a good round of DATY, most of it with her feet on my shoulders giving me full access. She was pleasantly responsive. My only complaint was that she had a little soapy taste, but I can't complain too much as hygiene is in my interest, after all. I lay down and the cover went on, lots of ball kissing and a little tongue work on my bottom. Good blowjob pressure, which I cut off fairly quickly in the interest of things yet to come.
Now maybe he meant she was kissing his globes, but I took that to mean a bit of the salad got tossed.
I really enjoy Philly AMPs but also find them frustrating because of staff turnover. Most AMPs seem to have 2-3 girls these days rather than 5-6 girls as they did in years past when there were fewer AMPs in CC. Thus when you ask to see all the girls there is less of a choice or more often the response is that most the girls are busy but don't worry "I have beautiful young girl fo you" So it turns out to be a roll of the dice and usually this turns out to be a disappointment. If by chance I get lucky and end up with someone who is really young, pretty, gives a good massage and plenty of extras to put a smile on my face, I believe that I have finally found my ATF but when I call at a later time to schedule an appointment with this girl I am told that she is no longer works here. An example recently is Mink at 1820. When I ask where she went usually no real information is provided. In the case of Mink the mamasan said that she went to NYC to make more money. Part of my problem may be that the girls that I like are the younger ones. Seems that AMPs usually have an older, more experienced girl who is contracted for long term and the turnover involves the younger girls who are more transient. So if they go to NYC through this system where are they in NYC. I haven't been able to find AMP services through checking USASG in NYC threads that indicate services involving younger girls. One AMP girl in Philly told me that she worked at a nail salon in NYC when she went there. Another girl in Philly gave me her # and I found she ended up at an AMP in Elizabeth NJ, but when I went up to see her, she didn't make any more $. Prices were the same. So does anyone know how the system works and where do all the young AMP girls go?
Do a google search for dollar bill's psycho round up
His blog is both funny and informative.
I really enjoy Philly AMPs but also find them frustrating because of staff turnover. Most AMPs seem to have 2-3 girls these days rather than 5-6 girls as they did in years past when there were fewer AMPs in CC. Thus when you ask to see all the girls there is less of a choice or more often the response is that most the girls are busy but don't worry "I have beautiful young girl fo you" So it turns out to be a roll of the dice and usually this turns out to be a disappointment. If by chance I get lucky and end up with someone who is really young, pretty, gives a good massage and plenty of extras to put a smile on my face, I believe that I have finally found my ATF but when I call at a later time to schedule an appointment with this girl I am told that she is no longer works here. An example recently is Mink at 1820. When I ask where she went usually no real information is provided. In the case of Mink the mamasan said that she went to NYC to make more money. Part of my problem may be that the girls that I like are the younger ones. Seems that AMPs usually have an older, more experienced girl who is contracted for long term and the turnover involves the younger girls who are more transient. So if they go to NYC through this system where are they in NYC. I haven't been able to find AMP services through checking USASG in NYC threads that indicate services involving younger girls. One AMP girl in Philly told me that she worked at a nail salon in NYC when she went there. Another girl in Philly gave me her # and I found she ended up at an AMP in Elizabeth NJ, but when I went up to see her, she didn't make any more $. Prices were the same. So does anyone know how the system works and where do all the young AMP girls go?Alas, I think that us as the "outsider" consumer are barred from being privvy to the inner workings of the underside of this biz.
I had the same experience; thought I'd found the jackpot, an honest to goodness beauty, was skilled at playing with and about my pooper (she got me over thinking it was "ghey", my punk homophobic self resisted at first but now. Shyt, I insist) , worked at it with diligence and focus, never showing any sign whatsoever of tiring out. Then one day she disappeared. POOF. Into the ether. Asked mama where she was,"oh, lots of these girls move around, she gone!". Didn't feel right to push for specifics as the general vibe was that there were not that were going to be given to me, and figured if I pushed I might come across like I was in love or something. (maybe I was a little. LOL).
How and why these girls come and go when conceivably they can build up a steady and reliable clientele is a mystery (hmm. Maybe thats a base reason perhaps? Keep the focus the business owner and not the girl?). And the recruitment machine in the background that supplies them the trade I dunno, can't say that I'm not curious.
Any insiders here? Care to enlighten?
I find them frustrating because of staff turnover.I, otoh, would consider variety a strong positive, a must even. That's why they're moving around, I believe. Kinda like with a movie theatre. What good would it be if it were showing the same movie, no matter how good in itself, in perpetuity? Absurd.
Jumping Jim
09-06-11, 07:35
Alas, I think that us as the "outsider" consumer are barred from being privvy to the inner workings of the underside of this biz.
I had the same experience; thought I'd found the jackpot, an honest to goodness beauty, was skilled at playing with and about my pooper (she got me over thinking it was "ghey", my punk homophobic self resisted at first but now. Shyt, I insist) , worked at it with diligence and focus, never showing any sign whatsoever of tiring out. Then one day she disappeared. POOF. Into the ether. Asked mama where she was,"oh, lots of these girls move around, she gone!". Didn't feel right to push for specifics as the general vibe was that there were not that were going to be given to me, and figured if I pushed I might come across like I was in love or something. (maybe I was a little. LOL).
How and why these girls come and go when conceivably they can build up a steady and reliable clientele is a mystery (hmm. Maybe thats a base reason perhaps? Keep the focus the business owner and not the girl?). And the recruitment machine in the background that supplies them the trade I dunno, can't say that I'm not curious.
Any insiders here? Care to enlighten?It is no secret, right now the gals make more money working in NYC. The base rate is $200 for a session. In Philly it is $160. If you're young and hot you're going to make more in NYC. Not to say if your only seeing 2 customer a day in NYC and 5 in Philly you'll make more in Philly but from what I understand that is also not true. The NYC spas are busier then Philly right now.
You're correct about building up a steady reliable clientele but why do it in Philly when you can do the same thing in NYC and make more besides the bulk of them all live in the Flushing area anyways.
PLEASE HELP! Can anyone recommend an AMP in the suburbs that has extensive menu options?
Have been to a few, only to be disappointed!
Send a PM is fine!
Thanks!
Member #5237
09-06-11, 17:41
Alas, I think that us as the "outsider" consumer are barred from being privvy to the inner workings of the underside of this biz.
I had the same experience; thought I'd found the jackpot, an honest to goodness beauty, was skilled at playing with and about my pooper (she got me over thinking it was "ghey", my punk homophobic self resisted at first but now. Shyt, I insist) , worked at it with diligence and focus, never showing any sign whatsoever of tiring out. Then one day she disappeared. POOF. Into the ether. Asked mama where she was,"oh, lots of these girls move around, she gone!". Didn't feel right to push for specifics as the general vibe was that there were not that were going to be given to me, and figured if I pushed I might come across like I was in love or something. (maybe I was a little. LOL).
How and why these girls come and go when conceivably they can build up a steady and reliable clientele is a mystery (hmm. Maybe thats a base reason perhaps? Keep the focus the business owner and not the girl?). And the recruitment machine in the background that supplies them the trade I dunno, can't say that I'm not curious.
Any insiders here? Care to enlighten?I'm not an insider, but I always believed that the owners of these AMPs owned places in several cities and like to rotate the girls around to keep up the variety that was available. Or maybe sometimes the girls have a problem with the mamasan and just need a change of scenery. To us, sometimes we develop a relationship with a particular girl for whatever reason. To the spa owners, these girls are just a commodity to be used to make as much money as possible, and if that involves rotating them then thats what they are going to do.
Love can happen just about anywhere. I saw a Korean girl at Adams Apple couple years ago who ended up marrying a client. I always wondered how the relationship turned out. Another Korean girl at an AMP in old city left because she was getting married not sure if it was a customer. Also in years past the owner of 1820 who used to provide massage services to me ended getting married. I think that she may still maintain a few regulars not sure though. More than once a mamasan has told me that a girl fell in love with a regular customer and ended up devastated when the customer stopped coming to see her. Once I became quite strongly attracted to an ATF and was very disappointed and emotionally upset when she moved back to Korea. Obviously it is not a good idea to develop feelings for these girls, but it is sometimes hard to control your emotions under such intimate situations.
In regard to turnover of girls I think that the organization at AMPs promotes this dynamic because it seems that there is a girl who has seniority and she must have a contract or arrangement with the ownership such that the other girls are temporary. This would guarantee the senior girl a certain amount of security and revenue in exchange for longevity that protects the AMP. I went to the AMP on Samson and knew the older girl who I didn't care for so I asked for the new girl. Well it turned into a big fight between the girls and I was shuffled between the rooms. I ended up with the new girl because I threatened to walk, but the older Korean kept trying to pull rank. There seem to be exceptions to this speculation such as FC that retains several girls for longer periods of time. This may contribute to the success of that AMP because you know what to expect and there is an opportunity for sampling of different girls.
Jumping Jim
09-09-11, 09:31
Love can happen just about anywhere. I saw a Korean girl at Adams Apple couple years ago who ended up marrying a client. I always wondered how the relationship turned out. Another Korean girl at an AMP in old city left because she was getting married not sure if it was a customer. Also in years past the owner of 1820 who used to provide massage services to me ended getting married. I think that she may still maintain a few regulars not sure though. More than once a mamasan has told me that a girl fell in love with a regular customer and ended up devastated when the customer stopped coming to see her. Once I became quite strongly attracted to an ATF and was very disappointed and emotionally upset when she moved back to Korea. Obviously it is not a good idea to develop feelings for these girls, but it is sometimes hard to control your emotions under such intimate situations.
In regard to turnover of girls I think that the organization at AMPs promotes this dynamic because it seems that there is a girl who has seniority and she must have a contract or arrangement with the ownership such that the other girls are temporary. This would guarantee the senior girl a certain amount of security and revenue in exchange for longevity that protects the AMP. I went to the AMP on Samson and knew the older girl who I didn't care for so I asked for the new girl. Well it turned into a big fight between the girls and I was shuffled between the rooms. I ended up with the new girl because I threatened to walk, but the older Korean kept trying to pull rank. There seem to be exceptions to this speculation such as FC that retains several girls for longer periods of time. This may contribute to the success of that AMP because you know what to expect and there is an opportunity for sampling of different girls.All woman are wired the same way. Let get real as to what options does a K-gal actually have? Work in a motel cleaning for $6 / hr? Work in a kitchen in some K-town restaurant? If she doesn't have her working papers, what is really on the table? Their minimum wage is like seeing a 2 or 3 guys a day but still that is about $200-$300 cash (no taxes) per day. If she is hot and in high demand she will make much more. They don't do this because they really like it; they really like the money. Most have the same dreams that all woman have. They would like to have a good stable life with a good man. We all have emotions and real feelings can develop. The real question is can both sides drop the past and move on. Also some of the women can develop very bad spending habits, blowing a few grands at the blackjack table and buying high end pocketbooks, jeans and watches is just a normal way of life for an AMP gal. It isn't difficult to get caught up in the lifestyle.
I have always held to the belief that working gals and some strippers understand the needs of men better then any other women on the planet. I am talking about working gals and strippers that are sane, not in their young 20's and are no longer caught up in the newness of the game. I also think they have very good radar for detecting BS since they hear it all day. Some guys that people would consider a great catch see them as potential mates and other guys see them as forever damaged, the ironic thing is they are both right. Because if you can't get over what happened in the past then don't let your current emotions fool you. It reminds me of an old Andrew Dice Clay line, he finds a guy in the audience with a hot wife / gf, he says to the guy "Wow, you wife is hot. Is she good in the sack?" The guy says "Yes". Dice says again "No, I mean was she really really good in the sack when you first meet her?" The guy says again "Oh yea, she is amazing". Dice says "How do you think she got to be so good?".
Big Dick Blak
09-09-11, 22:10
Hi all. Visiting the mecca of AMP this weekend.
First. Tried calling FCA to set up appointment. Only got answering machine, may not be open, but I drove by and did not go up to ring the bell.
Went to King's Spa last night on 3rd (42B) , but the place smelled musty. Like the walls were sweating! I thought about staying for a "treatment", but the service provider offered was mid 30's with alot of mileage, so I left.
Called Blue Moon today and hooked up with Happy. She is a sweet girl. Gave me the best massage I ever recieved at an AMP (40 mins). Here's the breakdown.
Total Time 1 hour 15 min.
Service 10.
Body 6 (I'm picky, shaved, clean. 5'4/120 late20's has midline surgical abdominal scar, but she's slim with natural 34Cs)
Extras all available and utilized.
Damage 1. 6.
Bottom Line: Nice girl, provides excellent masssage with extras (rim / CBJ / doggy) , YMMV.
Bye All.
BDB
AugustWest5
09-10-11, 14:59
Sorry if I sound ignorant with this post. I frequented the Callowhill and another AMP on Sansom about ten years ago. Last time I was at Callowhill, they were in new location a few blocks from original. They closed about a year later.
I've been reading posts in this thread and will appreciate some clarification:
1. Is FC short for Fun City?
2. Is Fun City located at one of the old Callowhill locations? If so, which one?
3. Is the AMP at the cornier of 16th and Sansom (above the Rooster Bar) still open? Do you know the current name?
I'll appreciate replies. Also, specific reccomendations on talent at any of these places will be appreciate
AugustWest5
09-10-11, 22:56
By any chance, would you know if this is the same "J" that worked off and on at the AMP at 16th and Sansom back in the late 90's? Nice body, breasts, loved DATY, gave multiple pops. She was my first AMP experience, just wondering if she had come back there?
Well, all things come to an end in this floating world, my ATF from FC is gone. So glad I am I that I had a chance to be back in Philly for her last two weeks before moving on. Yes, J with her rocking body, great personality, and momentary massages is no longer in the line up. Sometimes, rarely really, one can meet a quality woman in this environment, so I wish her the best. I loved her TS, and then the mutual fun we had. Was able to see her twice early this month, and each time we covered the universe, always going over time, with no hassles from the wonderful MS. FC is the best, and I look forward to more visits, perhaps a new ATF will emerge.
1. Is FC short for Fun City?Yes.
2. Is Fun City located at one of the old Callowhill locations?No.
If so, which one?Neither. Call them up and they'll give you directions.
3. Is the AMP at the cornier of 16th and Sansom (above the Rooster Bar) still open? Do you know the current name?That I don't know. Never been there.
Most importantly: there's been reports that FC got shut down recently (on grounds unknown). Alternatively, that it had some maintenance problems. Either way, it's been closed, at the moment at least, so be sure to call them up before heading their way and do NOT just drop by, for you may be greeted by a locked door.
16th and Sansom was a very long time ago and there is no intel that it exists now. A spacious place if I remember. It was more like a Loft apartment.
I was in philly this week. Called FC two nights in a row, got mailbox full message. Went by there two nights in a row, rang bell, no answer. Fortunately I had a back up plan. Went to pink as drew mimi. A little young and inexperienced. Massage was ok, attitude was good. Everything on the menu. Overall it was ok, but probably would not repeat and look for something better. Later. BT3
Thursday night I was out partying pretty late and was feeling pretty beat on Friday. Although still horny and actually wanting a good massage as well for my sore muscles. Having not gone to an AMP in a over a couple years, I looked in backpage to see what the options were. Found Sun Gold Spa was in a good location so I ended up over there around 2 in the afternoon. I've been to several AMPs over the years but this is the first time that I actually did this in the afternoon. I have to say that this is probably a good thing as I never felt rushed and think I actually got extra time out of my visit since there weren't too many customers there. I have to say that this was one of the better AMP experiences I ever had and would have been better if I wasn't so tired in the first place. I get there and am taken by the mamasan to a back room where she hits me up for. 60 for the massage. A couple mins later a woman comes walking in. Very attractive body and was super friendly. I am not going to mention her name in this post as I want to protect her (you'll see in my report that she probably didn't follow normal protocol so I don't want her to get in trouble). She asked if I wanted a shower and that's one part that I really enjoy so I said yes. When going back in the room, it was a little strange because there was a curtain separating two shower tables and there was another guy on the other side. Kind of strange but wasn't awful. Hana got to work and gave me a great wash down paying special attention to my ass. I could tell by the amount of attention she was giving it that she was probably into ass play and making sure I was good and clean down there. Then I was flipped over and washed all over the front. She even tugged me a bit with some soap which is something that I've never had a woman do when getting washed up. The whole time she was saying "you handsom. You handsom" and "nice ass". LOL. Physically, I'm in pretty good shape but I took her comments with a grain of salt since she probably says this a lot. Then when she started to dry me off she gave me a peck on the lips, dried up my whole body, and then even gave me a small kiss below as well. Over all, I had more "attention" payed to me during that shower than I had at any other AMP before. Nothing crazy that would get me off but it was a nice teaser before going in the back. Then in the back room, I laid on my back and she started giving me a really good massage. One of the things I like at AMPs is the actual massage before fun and she was pretty skilled. Really rubbed my back and neck nicely, also working down my legs, feet, etc. After working my legs with me still on my back, she came back up to my ass again and started to tease it with her fingers. I parted my legs a bit and she kept playing with it. Next thing you know she gets up, comes back, then I feel a slight warming sensation on my ass. Which I think is perhaps rubbing alcohol. Then she starts to go to town, not with her fingers but her tongue! This was a total surprise to me as we didn't even have a discussion around "tips". She really seemed genuinely into it and it sounded as if it was getting her off. If this was an "act" it was certainly a good one and had me fooled. Then she pulled me back a bit so my ass was in the air and she could do a reach around while licking my ass. Freaking awesome! After a couple of minutes, I turned around on my front and she started working my johnson with some oil, then brought her body up so I could tittie fuck her for a bit. All of this stimulation was just too much for me and I really couldn't hold out very long. Told her I was ready to cum and she quickly put a cover on and gave me a BJ for the final seconds before blast off. The crazy part about this is that as I said before, we never even talked about a tip before all of this and I wasn't sure if she really liked me or just assumed that I knew. I thought that there was a chance this could have been all included for the. 60 cover fee, but even if it was I was still planning on leaving a tip. She came back with a warm towel to clean me up and then she laid there next to me for several minutes, her body pressed up against mine. Asked me if I was married or single (told her single) and she started talking about how her and I should get married. She was saying so much that I think she was genuinely interested in me. Then a while later, she starts tugging me again. So this is ANOTHER surprise. Not only did we not talk tips yet, but I was getting a 2 for 1 for whatever tip I gave her. I like a little ass play so I asked her to stick a finger in while she jacked me, which she gladly did. The night before I was out late and I simply didn't have another one in me (that, plus I'm not in my 20's anymore so it's harder for me to do it 2xs quickly). Ended up telling her sorry that I was tired and we then finished up. So, she helps get me dressed, never said anything about a tip. But I went for my wallet to give her one since she was really good. Had. 8 in the wallet but pulled out. 6, she looked at me and said that they usually charge 1. 0. I pulled out another. 2 for a total of. 8 and then showed her that I didn't have any more left. She said, ok for this time but for next time it would be more. Over all, a wonderful experience and I wouldn't mind going back again.
One note. There's something I normally do at these places that I think is a good practice. I take all the credit cards out of my wallet and only taken in the cash that I'm willing to spend. I don't know if they do this or not but I suspect there's a chance that mamasan may look into the wallet when you're in the shower to see how much you brought. For this reason, I only take what I'm willing to spend. Plus, it was good that I didn't have my credit cards on me as she probably would have had me put another. 20 on that, which would have been VERY BAD for my personal situation.
Finally, it's strange but I think she really was interested in me. Mind you. I'm NOT a rookie at these places and have been to many over the last 15 years of my life (usually going once a year, some years twice) , in different parts of the country as well as I have traveled for work. I do know that they want happy, repeat customers, but like I said this one felt different. Some of you on this board may not know this if you're younger but many of these woman are brought into the country and then have huge "debts" to pay off before being set free, so in many ways, they don't have any exit out. I've also read reports where some have married their customers as well and I would imagine if they can pull this off, then they can do what ever they want at that point. I'm not looking for this AT ALL as I have my own life, but this does kind of make me feel bad for them. Mind you, I've been to these places before and most likely will be back again as I really find them to be the biggest bang for your buck and a truly enjoyable experience all around. However, I do have a conscious and as I get older, I do think about their lives as well and what that must be like.
In Philly $160 is the standard AMP fee in Philly for 1 hr, no matter what happens. That's just the way it is."Availability" of CFS is the only guarantee which means if it doesn't happen, it's still $160. Your paying for time. If you see her again, you need to make it up to her and do it before rather than after. She actually might insist. She is paid by the hour and not by the job. There is no set rule, but 2 cups can cost extra. It is suggested that you negotiate before hand if you want multiple cups. If you manage to loose it in the shower, hang out for the rest of the time. At least that's what I would do. Alternatively you could negotiate the return of part of the compensation if you left, but don't expect it.
Exceeding an hour can cost you too. It seems to depend on a lot of things. The girl and how well you know the mamasan. I've had 1. 5 hr sessions with no fee increase. It's not the norm. At an hour, you could find mamsan banging on the door.
Only one AMP had a wierd policy based on 30 min. 45 min and 1 hr sessions which is out of character. Occasionally you can get short changed.
An AMP is not SW sex. It's more like incall escort without a table shower.
Basketball
09-18-11, 06:41
You said you didn't want to give her name be / see she may have done things she shouldn't have done. You are incorrect, you just got good service. Where you goofed was when you said Hana gave you a good TS. Telling us who gave good service will get her more clients. Thanks.
In Philly $160 is the standard AMP fee in Philly for 1 hr, no matter what happens.I'd like to respectfully disagree.
First, it doesn't sound right: imo, the only purely time-based part is the house fee which covers an hour (45 mins? Whatever it is) of their time, with a TS and a massage session included in it. Everything extra is non-time-related. That's the way I view it (subjective perhaps; it can certainly be wrong, though no masseuse ever told me it was). Now the part that doesn't come from me and is, thus, more objective: it's been a long time since I needed a menu in a place like that, but, going back many years, when I was given such, the price list was constructed according to services rendered, not time it took to render them. Sure, one thing may take less / more time than another, but that's kinda insignificant, a side effect with no bearing to the actual damage (within reason).
I think Malvo has just had a good experience, tipped very appropriately, and wrote a great review (thanks!). In my opinion, he did not goof up in any way.
Jumping Jim
09-21-11, 07:00
One note. There's something I normally do at these places that I think is a good practice. I take all the credit cards out of my wallet and only taken in the cash that I'm willing to spend. I don't know if they do this or not but I suspect there's a chance that mamasan may look into the wallet when you're in the shower to see how much you brought. For this reason, I only take what I'm willing to spend. Plus, it was good that I didn't have my credit cards on me as she probably would have had me put another. 20 on that, which would have been VERY BAD for my personal situation.I have no reason to think that anything like that ever happens. I know the fee is $160 I pay it up front just to eliminate the hassle. I usually tip an extra $20 also up front. It usually gets me much better service and a similar good experience like you had.
Finally, it's strange but I think she really was interested in me. Mind you. I'm NOT a rookie at these places and have been to many over the last 15 years of my life (usually going once a year, some years twice) , in different parts of the country as well as I have traveled for work. I do know that they want happy, repeat customers, but like I said this one felt different. Some of you on this board may not know this if you're younger but many of these woman are brought into the country and then have huge "debts" to pay off before being set free, so in many ways, they don't have any exit out. I've also read reports where some have married their customers as well and I would imagine if they can pull this off, then they can do what ever they want at that point. I'm not looking for this AT ALL as I have my own life, but this does kind of make me feel bad for them. Mind you, I've been to these places before and most likely will be back again as I really find them to be the biggest bang for your buck and a truly enjoyable experience all around. However, I do have a conscious and as I get older, I do think about their lives as well and what that must be like.Don't believe all the crap you hear about the huge Debts and they are trapped in this. The Federal Gov. Has a program if they get caught they have 2 options: #1 get deported. #2 testify against the people who brought them here or they are working for, that they were victims of human trafficking "tricked in to be a prostitute". If they opt for #2 they then have an opportunity to become a US Citizen. It isn't too difficult to understand what option is more appealing.
Note: if it is local LE it is a different story. Every local AMP has to watch against how the girls get to their AMP, when they cross state lines. I did some research about the big AMP bust back in 2006, that involved 40 AMPs and the Korean taxi drivers pimping the girls across state lines. The attorney general of the US actually commented on the horror of how the girls were forced into this. It becomes an easy way to pick some low hanging fruit, to gain public support that they are actually doing something good and righteous, while the intercity kids drop out of school and kill each other selling drugs. Also it isn't difficult to get gals to make up the stories they want to hear, when presented with the options of get deported or testify and become a US citizen. I am not saying that there aren't situations where girls are tricked into this and held against their will but it sure is suspect when they have such a big carrot dangling in front of them to embellish the story about their situation and move towards a path of citizenship. The righteous sure don't want to hear that someone would actual choose of their own freewill to become a working girl. They are convinced that the only way it could happen is if they were tricked into it. It couldn't be a tax free high 5 figure or low 6 figure income!
I have found that the girls are trapped in this lifestyle in other ways. Trapped in to high end clothes, hand bags and jewelery. They get caught up in the lifestyle of Donald Trump and blow huge amounts of cash gambling. I know a girl that dropped $100, 000 in a bad weekend gambling, confirmed by her and her friend. It is easy come, easy go. I am not painting a glamorous life style that they live. It is a job to them. It is very competitive and the girls fight for customers. When they get older it becomes more difficult especially looking back at all the blown cash. Most didn't want to work this job for as long as they have. They are not machines and have the same emotional needs that every woman in this world has. Some do end up getting married to guys that were their customers. If they can put the past behind them who knows it might work out? It can be a lonely life with the cash to get caught up in the vices that tempt us all.
The Federal Gov. Has a program if they get caught they have 2 options:Come on now. You're explaining this to johns and and you really think these girls are so well versed in US laws or trust law enforcement when they probably don't back home?
Although I don't normally ask, but once I did and I got that there was a bad business deal that she got involve in in Korea and she came here to earn money to pay off the bad debts. I can't remember the exact details, but someone else (male) was involved. Whether it was a relative, I can't remember.
Other's do come to earn money for their family in Korea.
Gambling does seem to be a big part of their lives.
Jumping Jim
09-23-11, 05:01
Come on now. You're explaining this to johns and and you really think these girls are so well versed in US laws or trust law enforcement when they probably don't back home?That wasn't my point. The post I was replying to was about a guy feeling bad because he thought the girls were trapped or were forced in to this line of work. I have found illegals know quite a bit about immigration laws. They don't trust LE but they have lawyers that know how to work the system.
Mrkuyamandla
09-24-11, 23:35
Anyone been to one in Huntingdon Valley?
I know people here ask about non Asian options and someone just told me about it. Senior members can PM me for the location (and hopefully they can report back)
they have lawyers that know how to work the system.I'm with Jumping Jim here. It's business, and it works because there are ways to make it work. No need to overdramatize the situation.
First. Tried calling FCA to set up appointment. Only got answering machine, may not be openIt's been currently shut down (I think there's been reports here about it). They've been quite resilient over the years, so one hopes they will be back. Always read reports before "going in".
It is no secret, right now the gals make more money working in NYC. The base rate is $200 for a session. In Philly it is $160.The cost of living is also much higher in NYC, and I think this is what accounts for the difference here. I didn't see their books, but I think, after expenses, they end up with about the same.
besides the bulk of them all live in the Flushing area anyways.Actually, that would be one reason to do it elsewhere.
Has anyone heard anything about FCA?
Basketball
10-01-11, 06:46
Has anyone heard anything about FCA?Great organization. The Fellowship of Christian Athletes brings male and female athletes of the Christian religion together to improve their religious heritage.
Heard Fun City may be opening again, soon, at a new location. Nothing like a good massage after a FCA meeting.
http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/european-spa-full-body-40-1hr-your-choice-of-girl-for-you-rub-4-daily-on-staff-20/6118501
Went to this MP today the ad said. 4 for hr. Got there and wanted. 2 more. Then wanted tip gave her. 2 she said has to be way more then that. Ll I had was a. 5 gave that to her. Started the massage in her street clothes. Was going on and on about her cell phone needing to be charged, and how she was on a diet, hungry and did not want to eat pizza. She received 2 calls then asked for more tip. Then left room and brought in hot rocks placed them on my back and left for ten more minutes only to return asking me about if I thought her fb post to her cousin about his fathers death was appropriate and how she was so tired cus she has 4 kids and looked like another on the way. It was filthy!
Thanks for the info. I think it was this precise place that someone (about half a year ago, I'd guess) posted an "ad" on backpages about how bad it was. He was so pissed-off that he actually bought an ad to vent. It was renewed many times, probably for half a year at least.
My personal take, from what I heard over the years, is anything "Russian" or "European" etc. (iow, non-Asian) is guaranteed to be a ripoff. They advertize kind of implying that they're like an AMP, whereas in reality what they offer is a bad massage at an absurd price. My suggestion (for what it's worth) is never to TOFFT a place like that; their buisiness model appears to be ripping off TOFFT'ers. My approach is, if I want a massage place, then it's an AMP; otherwise I'll resort to some other kind of service, not massage. Only AMPs provide consistent service w / o surprises.
Has anyone heard anything about FCA?FC is back in operation. Same phone. Enjoy.
Hello All,
I am very new to mongering and only have been doing it for about a year or so. Last year my friend showed me to a AMP that only finished with a HJ and desired more so I went to look on BP. After a few bad experiences with escorts I wanted to go back to the AMPs because it seemed more cleaner, idk. I found BP and saw an ad for 237 on race. I went in not knowing what to expect. Mamasan brought me into the room and asked me if it was my first time there. I did the novice thing and said yes it was. She told me to wait in the room while she got a nice girl. A nice looking woman maybe in her mid 30's came in and asked me for $.6 on the spot, which I handed over. She guided me into the ts room and gave me a cleaning. She then dried me off and took me back to the room. She told me to lay on the table on my stomach and then proceeded to undress. I was very surprised by this since my first experience with my friend a year ago, the massues kept her cloths on for the entire time. She then started to caress my ass and give it little kisses! Wow it felt great! She then started to use her tongue and lick my whole back side. Very light licking and not too wet. By then I was getting very excited. This went on for about 5 minutes and then asked me to turn over. Then came the CBJ. She also gave my balls a lick which I was even more surprised of! Then she asked if I was ready and let me do mish on her. I finished, she cleaned me up and then proceeded with the massage. Now here's the funny part. During the massage I here a woman yelling at a guy in the other room I couldn't tell what she was screaming at him for until she came out into the halway and talked to mamasan. I knew exactly what she was angry about. I'm korean and could understand everything she was explaining to mamasan. The john in the other room told her that he only had. 8 and wanted full experience. But she knew he was lying because she saw more bills in his wallet while he was taking it out. Of course I hear this and start to laugh a little and the girl giving me the massage apologized for it. I said no worries and she then finished the massage. Dressed, gave her a hug and started on my way out. As I was walking down the hall I saw who the girl was that was yelling and saw she was pretty hot for my standards. So I decided to go back a week later for her.
Her name was sasha. I went back and started seeing this one and developed a kind of a relationship with her. Went to her about 6 times and she even gave me her phone number. She told me to call her whenever I was bored and wanted to talk. I never did. But then I went through some financial hardships and couldn't go back for months.
I went back two two months ago and saw that they had two new girls there. Mamasan remembered me and asked why I haven't been back. I told her I had some business and couldn't really visit often. Then was told that sasha no longer worked there. I was pretty upset. Maybe I should have called her up. Apparantly sasha went back to ny and found a new place to work at. I was promised by mamasan to get a cuter younger girl. And boy she did not upset. Her name I coco and wow she looks great. Nice petite body with a cute face. Breast are fake but very soft to the touch. She guided me to the shower and started to undress and gave me the best ts of my life. Started soaping me up and then started to rub her wet tits on my back. I could feel her hard nipples running up and down my wet back. I was amazing. She then turned me over and thoroughly cleaned my johnson and then climbed on top of me and started to rub her entire naked body on mine. It was magnificent. I could feel my johnson between her legs as rub kept rubbing up and down. This went on for like 10 minutes and then we went back to the room. She may have been small but was very freaky with me. Started with the licking of my ass and back. Turned me over and continued licking me on my chest and stomach all the way in between my thighs making grunting noises and growling as she pleased me. It was great. Then came to CBJ and it seemed she was sucking my johnson and balls for at least 15 minutes. She then jumped on top and wow was she going hard. I couldn't last for more than 5 minutes while she rode me and sucked my nipples at the same time. I'm telling you she is a small itty bitty girl. Massage came after and was subpar but I enjoyed everything. I went back a couple more times but the experience hasnt been the same since out first encounter.
I was thinking about going to a new AMP. But I didn't know where to go so I came here and wanted reviews. I see that many of you guys are huge fans of fc. What makes fc so special? I also saw older postings of ch2 but looks like they have been closed for a while now. But earlier I saw this posting on BP and thought, could this be the ch2 that everyone misses so much?
http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-managemet-c-a-l-l-o-w-h-i-l-l-2-100-relaxation-package-24/6836797
I says in the description- "We are bringing back the old quality and creating new AWESOME MEMORY for YOU!"
I'm thinking this has to be ch2. Anyone else think otherwise?
JustForKicks
10-08-11, 14:33
I was wondering if anyone would care to share some information about "FC". Or can recommend a provider that will travel to my hotel in the airport area. It would be greatly appreciated, and can return the favor if your ever in the Richmond VA area.
Cephlapod Love
10-08-11, 15:52
I was thinking about going to a new AMP. But I didn't know where to go so I came here and wanted reviews. I see that many of you guys are huge fans of fc. What makes fc so special? I also saw older postings of ch2 but looks like they have been closed for a while now. But earlier I saw this posting on BP and thought, could this be the ch2 that everyone misses so much?
http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/new-managemet-c-a-l-l-o-w-h-i-l-l-2-100-relaxation-package-24/6836797
I says in the description- "We are bringing back the old quality and creating new AWESOME MEMORY for YOU!"
I'm thinking this has to be ch2. Anyone else think otherwise?What is special about funcity? Huh? It's like the difference between hamburger from the grocery store and a Filet Mignon from Ruth's Chris!
The Key is - The management at FC works very hard to have the best girls and sees to it that those girls provide the best experience with a great attitude! They really know how to run this kind of business. So mess around with the hit & miss of others if you wish or pony up at FC for a good time. I mean really, the chances of a bad time at FC are much lower, sure it does happen***, but for the same fee one is seeing a 30+ yo girl at another place or a hot 20 something at FC? To each his own.
*** If one does have a bad time at FC. Don't be a wimp. OPEN YOUR MOUTH. Tell mamasan on the way out what was your issue. She will do something to accommodate you.
LoveToPlay90
10-09-11, 20:38
What is special about funcity? Huh? It's like the difference between hamburger from the grocery store and a Filet Mignon from Ruth's Chris!
The Key is. The management at FC works very hard to have the best girls and sees to it that those girls provide the best experience with a great attitude! They really know how to run this kind of business. So mess around with the hit & miss of others if you wish or pony up at FC for a good time. I mean really, the chances of a bad time at FC are much lower, sure it does happen, but for the same fee one is seeing a 30+ yo girl at another place or a hot 20 something at FC? To each his own.
* If one does have a bad time at FC. Don't be a wimp. OPEN YOUR MOUTH. Tell mamasan on the way out what was your issue. She will do something to accommodate you.Does the 100 cover it all?
Does the 100 cover it all?I saw the BP ad for $100 but too busy when I went by. Any info on callowhill2?
Anyone TOFTT yet? Their BP ad is claiming a $100 "relaxation package" and I'm quite curious.
Jimmyfck2003
10-10-11, 22:04
Heading to Philly end of the week. Last time I was there I had a great time with Maggie at fc. I noticed that she is not there anymore. Saw some adds on BP for Sun Gold. Says pics are real. I know this is usually a lie but the pictures of the girls at FC are real. Has anyone had any experience at Sun Gold. I love Asian girls with big racks and it looks like Hana and Miko might fit the bill. Any information would be appreciated.
Philly Dogg
10-17-11, 08:43
Fun City is re opened, however when I was there only one girl working. Actually the mamason (Lily) gave me the TS because the other girl (Brandy) was busy. 1st time ever for that. Seems that the neighbor hood landlord is putting pressure on FC to move. Thats why FC has been closed for several weeks. Reopened with limited staff. So FC is relocating soon. Stay tuned. Anyway Brandy was good as usual.
So that's what is going on. I tried calling and it just goes to voice mail. Stopped bu last night but no answer at the door. They would usually buzz the door before I could even hit the doorbell. How disappointing! They could at least answer the damned phone and tell us they are closed.
Fun City is re opened, however when I was there only one girl working. Actually the mamason (Lily) gave me the TS because the other girl (Brandy) was busy. 1st time ever for that. Seems that the neighbor hood landlord is putting pressure on FC to move. Thats why FC has been closed for several weeks. Reopened with limited staff. So FC is relocating soon. Stay tuned. Anyway Brandy was good as usual.
Jimmyfck2003
10-18-11, 22:41
Can anyone tell me how Sun Gold compares to Fun City? Feel free to PM. I know that a lot of people on here rave about Fun City. Since is is closed now what is choice number 2?
I could only find two listings for a Sun Gold spa, one in Tannersville the other in AC. Couldn't find one in Philly or environs.
Can anyone tell me how Sun Gold compares to Fun City? Feel free to PM. I know that a lot of people on here rave about Fun City. Since is is closed now what is choice number 2?
Just came back from CH2 the one that was advertised on ridge. I was at a friends house in the area and thought hey why night ill TOFTT and check it out for the $ relaxation package. I called around midnight and mamasan said it was open. I get there around 12:15 pretty late she even told me she was going to close until I called after our session. I was an idiot to go so late because there were no girls but mama. She was in her mid 40's but had a great rack, may have been fake but not sure (I'm not too good seeing if there are real or not even after feeling them.)
We go up and she asks for. 5, I ask her for the relaxation package for $ I saw in the ad, she acted if I didn't know what I was talking about. So I just gave her the $ hoping for the best. I get a piss poor but thourough table shower. We get to the room and I get a half ass feather touch massage for 5 minutes. Tells me to turn over and then starts to rub me out. Finished up with a HJ and left. Took no more than 30 minutes for the whole package.
Package was not as good as advertised. It may have been because I was late but I would have at least expected a CBJ. Oh well, since fc is now closed I will go back to 237 race where I have had good times there. I really want to go to fc so much.
Anyone else try the new advertised CH2?
Thanks for the report, IdForPorn. Midnight isn't late (I tend to go about this time or later). Sometimes you hit bad luck, that's all there is to it. I can remember a few rather disappointing times myself (not at this place, I've never been to this place). Things happen, don't make much of it. Perhaps it'd make sense to ask how many girls there are there at the moment? Not sure. I've never asked such a question myself. But then I almost never call either. Anyone have any ideas on how to avoid this sort of situation?
Well supposedly. I called again and they actually answered the phone. Said they would reopen tomorrow, Wed 10/26. I asked and they said new location but wouldn't give address. (There was some discussion in the background, not sure what it was.) Said call back tomorrow (I think).
Has anyone given J&J, the new Thai place at 1021 Cherry a try? I called and a guy answered (not usually a good sign) open til 3 AM (usually a good sign). Asked price and was told "when I get there" (not a good sign).
Tried calling again today as they told me they would be open after 11 AM. Again with the questions, who did you see the last time your were here? Before I was told the new location was on the west side, today its at 3rd and Market. She remembered me calling yesterday. Now they are still working on fixing the place up and next week would be better. WTF? Guess they don't need the business. I gave the old place high marks in every post I made, now I can't even find out where they are. Guess I'll have to TOFTT at the Thai place.
Philly Dogg
10-28-11, 15:51
Tried calling again today as they told me they would be open after 11 AM. Again with the questions, who did you see the last time your were here? Before I was told the new location was on the west side, today its at 3rd and Market. She remembered me calling yesterday. Now they are still working on fixing the place up and next week would be better. WTF? Guess they don't need the business. I gave the old place high marks in every post I made, now I can't even find out where they are. Guess I'll have to TOFTT at the Thai place.Fun City's new address is 40 South 3rd. Street. It has a blue door with the number 40 in big numbers on it. Do not ring the bell, just push on the blue door to get inside. Once inside, Lily (mamasan) will greet you. Best to call in advance because only 2 girls working. Make an appointment is best. I think Lily wants to keep this new place low key, low traffic. Any way Brandy was great.
Being unable to elicit the address of the new Fun city, I decided to try the Thai massage place on Cherry. I rang the bell and a guy answered the door. There were two men and three women in the waiting area. It was difficult to understand the guy who answered the door. Apparently he was asking if I wanted steam, they have a steam room in the shower area. He told me $80 for massage, included tip. (Not a good sign.) I was presented with a petite little Thai girl who spoke so softly I had difficulty hearing her. She spoke clear American English. I was given a key with a laree lettered tag on it and shown to a "locker room" with about 8 wooden lockers. (Like they don't have a spare key to the locks.) I sat in the steam room until I started to break a sweat and then showered, alone. She then met me an showed me to a room with a bi-fold door. The massage table had a face hole, broader than needed by me and a little too short. Difficult finding a comfortable position for my chin / forehead. She entered the room and covered me with a towel. She left a couple times before she started a fair massage. She spent a majority of the time massaging my back / butt / legs. After the flip, she massaged my chest a little then did some sort of fast kneading on my legs. The entire time she avoided Mini Me and the twins and it was over. I was there a total of an hour. Its a shame because she was really cute and young and it looked like she would have been a lot of fun without her clothes. I did get a sense that she was not entirely comfortable with what she is doing, even though she isn't doing much. Oh, they also have pictures of Asian girls glued to the cross member of the massage table under the face hole. WTF is that for?
With that being a bust I made my way to 237 12th. Mama let me in and I asked how many girls she had. She said, I'll show you and showed me to a room. A few minutes later in walks Sasha. Very pretty face and what appeared to be a nice figure under a kind of poofy dress and a severely limited command of English. I decided she was certainly pretty enough and handed her the house and tip. Off to the TS for a thorough cleaning with the obligatory finger repeatedly played across those sensitive areas. I like the fact that she didn't use one of those plastic scrubby things, I hate them. Back to the room and I lay down, no face holes here. Sasha comes in an hugs me from behind and nibbles on my neck. (This is going a little better.) The lights dimmed and Sasha had some sort of wardrobe malfunction. She began the light touch, using her nose or chin along my back and legs all the while stroking me. I could tell this was going to be a rush job if I let it. A few minutes in she asked me to turn over. I got up and told her to lie down. I started with a little Shiatsu on her back and legs then started the light touch using my chest hair and beard to raise the goose flesh on her butt. Once she was adequately aroused, I had her flip. She has a beautiful set of A cups with little eraser like nipples. I suckled them a little and then began teasing her again with the chest hair/beard. She allowed me to kiss her on the lips between suckling and teasing. Finally I got to the DATY which she initially resisted. I persevered and she finally relented. Started mish and knowing that is my weakest position, had her move to CG. Why is it the Asian girls always want to ride English to Jockey style? I talked her into trying Western, a more relaxed riding style allowing full penetration. It sure seemed to work for her and its one of my stronger positions. Finally she'd had all she could handle. I sat up, with her still engaged and we sat on the table hugging and kissing for a while. I then turned her on her back for mish (at which time my hamstring decided to cramp.) I paced myself, teasing her with slow, full length strokes. Finally I started pounding her until I finished and we were both out of breath. we laid there a little while, kissed some more and then I disengaged. She laid there with a grin on her face, gave me two thumbs up and said "nice". She then sang some little ditty as she cleaned me up. Mama started yelling that our time was up. On the way out she told Mama that I had given her a massage, to which Mama said, "then you pay him." All in all and very nice GFE experience.
You said you didn't want to give her name be / see she may have done things she shouldn't have done. You are incorrect, you just got good service. Where you goofed was when you said Hana gave you a good TS. Telling us who gave good service will get her more clients. Thanks.Was in Phila a week or so ago and also went to SG.
I think they have several fixed names that they rotate girls through. On the BP ad, they also list a Hana, but like most AMPs, the photos are stock Asian models who have never been anywhere near an AMP!
I picked "Hana" from the line-up based on name, both were medium sized and well built. She gave a good massage and excellent service, but not as earlier posts described. We should start logging how many different Hanas we encounter!
Sure are a lot of Hana's in these spots, it's like their own marketing machine doesn't spent too much time with ensuring diversity.
Paid a visit to 'Pink', Got a 'Hana' there also. Nice soft hands, if I didn't get all the trimmings' (how does one complain about not getting rimmed long and vigorously like in the "movies"?). Service was friendly enough I suppose, just not enthusiastic but not as if it were a chore. Did I say she had great soft. Small. Hands?
I don't frequent AMP's much, but when I do I enjoy them. Hell, once I'm decided I'm going I get excited, once I've popped I seem to always say to myself."I drove all this way and paid this money for this?", although I do believe its just the level-headedness coming back post-nutbust. I then crave a sandwich and soup and reason to myself that it was worth it as I can't get my frumpy girl to lick my ass either.
I don't frequent them enough but do wish they were more 'playful' or maybe it's because I'm not regular enough to develop a rapport to engender this. Or is it simply that I should get thee to FC?
Sure are a lot of Hana's in these spots, it's like their own marketing machine doesn't spent too much time with ensuring diversity.
Paid a visit to 'Pink', Got a 'Hana' there also. Nice soft hands, if I didn't get all the trimmings' (how does one complain about not getting rimmed long and vigorously like in the "movies"?). Service was friendly enough I suppose, just not enthusiastic but not as if it were a chore. Did I say she had great soft. Small. Hands?
I don't frequent AMP's much, but when I do I enjoy them. Hell, once I'm decided I'm going I get excited, once I've popped I seem to always say to myself."I drove all this way and paid this money for this?", although I do believe its just the level-headedness coming back post-nutbust. I then crave a sandwich and soup and reason to myself that it was worth it as I can't get my frumpy girl to lick my ass either.
I don't frequent them enough but do wish they were more 'playful' or maybe it's because I'm not regular enough to develop a rapport to engender this. Or is it simply that I should get thee to FC?Love Pink, Sunshine in Jenkintown is nice (older girls but there is a old group of customers in Jenkintown) but FC is worth the trip. Not sure it's any better but it must be a definite on the bucket list. I've had great FS in a few spots even in the back seat of the truck. You go there once and you will go back.
Please give a "trip report" when you get back.
Milo
Love Pink, Sunshine in Jenkintown is nice (older girls but there is a old group of customers in Jenkintown) but FC is worth the trip. Not sure it's any better but it must be a definite on the bucket list. I've had great FS in a few spots even in the back seat of the truck. You go there once and you will go back.
Please give a "trip report" when you get back.
MiloWas wondering about Sunshine. Haven't seen a review of them. Would love to know if they are worth the trip.
Lurker from out of town, used this site to find FC a year back and have been 3 times since when business travels brings me to your city. Haven't posted a report as all bases have been covered when they were at their old location. Planning on a visit tomorrow, spoke with mamasan and was given addy no problem after I told her where the old location was. Asked about girls working, and brandy is on vacation and Hana no longer works there. This time I'll post a report since its a new location.
Can anyone tell me about the new location setup? Is it similar to previous and is TS still offered? Also, price still $.6?
Thanks in advance!
Someone was confused because of numbering on the door when they used Google maps. Basically, you immediately enter the first door. This is more of a typical setup. Then ring the bell once inside the entryway.
Yes to your last 2 questions.
Spazen: Thanks for the info! Really helped when I got there.
Called Thur evening to let FC know I would be coming in Fri night, however when I got there they thought I was visiting on Thur. Mamasan said next time call few hours prior to arrival, as I guess they were really busy / full at past 9pm on Friday.
Anyhow, I arrived with a buddy and let him go first while I waited (it was his first time) about 5-10minutes. They must have been really busy as I received a TS from Mamasan (didn't mind, she's a looker too) before meeting Tiffany. She was probably late 20s, early 30s. 5ft 6-8inch, average build with natural large B's or small C's. It all started with massage while I was faced down before receiving a little BBBJ while faced down, then the flip to CBJ. 69 with DATY, cowgirl, reverse cg, then missionary. Unfortunately for me, I drove 3 hrs after work and by the time I had arrived at FC I had been up for 18+ hours straight. Things weren't working properly with junior, so Tiffany had to revert to HJ. She tried her best for a good 5-10 minutes but finally gave up and I relieved myself while getting to play with Tiffany. I give her A++ for effort.
FC has treated me well every time I have visited. My recent visit was my own damn fault but I was very satisfied with the level of service they continue to maintain. I'm planning on another visit this week as I'm already in the area for business, so hopefully will have another report in a few days.
Note: Only thing I didn't like about new location was lack of parking, however upon asking Mamasan they appears to be some free parking couple blocks away in a garage.
Someone was confused because of numbering on the door when they used Google maps. Basically, you immediately enter the first door. This is more of a typical setup. Then ring the bell once inside the entryway.
Yes to your last 2 questions.Spazen: Thanks for the info! Really helped when I got there.
Called Thur evening to let FC know I would be coming in Fri night, however when I got there they thought I was visiting on Thur. Mamasan said next time call few hours prior to arrival, as I guess they were really busy / full at past 9pm on Friday.
Anyhow, I arrived with a buddy and let him go first while I waited (it was his first time) about 5-10minutes. They must have been really busy as I received a TS from Mamasan (didn't mind, she's a looker too) before meeting Tiffany. She was probably late 20s, early 30s. 5ft 6-8inch, average build with natural large B's or small C's. It all started with massage while I was faced down before receiving a little BBBJ while faced down, then the flip to CBJ. 69 with DATY, cowgirl, reverse cg, then missionary. Unfortunately for me, I drove 3 hrs after work and by the time I had arrived at FC I had been up for 18+ hours straight. Things weren't working properly with junior, so Tiffany had to revert to HJ. She tried her best for a good 5-10 minutes but finally gave up and I relieved myself while getting to play with Tiffany. I give her A++ for effort.
FC has treated me well every time I have visited. My recent visit was my own damn fault but I was very satisfied with the level of service they continue to maintain. I'm planning on another visit this week as I'm already in the area for business, so hopefully will have another report in a few days.
Note: Only thing I didn't like about new location was lack of parking, however upon asking Mamasan they appears to be some free parking couple blocks away in a garage.
AssGrinder
11-17-11, 00:08
I'm a visitor here to your fair it's city and I typically like to visit the local sites when I'm here. Since the choices were kind of slim out here in Chester county, I decided to pay a visit to Fun City downtown. The name describes it all!
G was my therapist this evening and she was the hottest therapist I've ever laid eyes on. The thong showed off her magnificent ass like a picture frame.
The table shower was lame and the massage was also. But I don't think that's the point of this fine establishment. When G took off the picture frame and the matching top it was game on. The shaved kitty was purrfect. Beautiful man made Cs. The whole thing looked like it should be up on shelf in a museum. She was hot!
I won't go into details, but the rest of the appointment was spectacular. You guys have it lucky here in Philly!
I'm a visitor here to your fair it's city and I typically like to visit the local sites when I'm here. Since the choices were kind of slim out here in Chester county, I decided to pay a visit to Fun City downtown. The name describes it all!
G was my therapist this evening and she was the hottest therapist I've ever laid eyes on. The thong showed off her magnificent ass like a picture frame.
The table shower was lame and the massage was also. But I don't think that's the point of this fine establishment. When G took off the picture frame and the matching top it was game on. The shaved kitty was purrfect. Beautiful man made Cs. The whole thing looked like it should be up on shelf in a museum. She was hot!
I won't go into details, but the rest of the appointment was spectacular. You guys have it lucky here in Philly!Glad you had fun in town. But do us all a favor. Always go into detail! That's always the point, info and vicarious livin' thru others when we are unable to partake ourselves. LOL.
Stay safe, have fun!
Went to Fc this weekend. 1st time at the new location. Different place. Parking was more difficult. But same great service that I have always gotten. Called ahead as I always do. Greeted by Lilly, brought to my room. Still private, but much smaller room and bed than before. Plenty big enough for the 2 of us. Saw a gal named MIMI. I would guess mid thirties. Full figured. Very nice and willing to please. She seemed in a bit of a rush after the TS. Then slowed it down. Was with her a little over an hour. Never once mentioned $$. FS provided. If there is a more professional place with even close to as pretty of women, I have not seen it. I saw a couple of the other girls. Good Lord. Enjoy the holidays!
Ok, so bigcatt decided to detour from FCA and try the well reviewed blue door spot. Easily found street parking near by, and found the destination up the way from the Hampton Inn. Entered after buzzing and door opened immediately. MS gave me a smile and showed me in to a room as I asked if Jennifer was available. MS asked how did I know about Jennifer if this was my 1st time, and I told her that I had seen her ad on BP to which she said, no problem to my choice. So I am in the room for like half a minute, when there's a knock at the door, and in she comes. Wow, this woman is really in shape albeit a bit more made up than need be. But very nice to my eyes. She asks me for the house fee, and tells me to get undressed and she will return for us to do TS. So I get myself wrapped in a towel and Jennifer returns to lead me by the hand to the TS. Lying face down she pours warm water over me, and I start to relax, then come the soap combined with some massage touches, nice. Now some therapists tend to move through the table shower quick, but not Jennifer, she's really thorough and gave nice attention everyplace and in some places very special attention. So when it was time to flip over, my flag was up, and feeling her hands run over my chest and playing with my equipment really got me going. Finally, it was rinse time, followed by drying time. At this point, I knew that this session would be good. Back to the room, and on to the table for a moment as she left for a moment. As the panties and the bra hit the floor upon return, I was treated to a view of a truly fine body. And then treated to feeling her use it to massage my back, my legs, my ass, etc in a light and very sensual manner. Now, I usually like my massage firm, but I was fully going with the flow. As reported elsewhere, Jennifer's lips and tongue started kissing my back, my legs, and oooh yeah my ass. Suffice to say, this woman really tossed bigcatt's salad, then had me flip over and was ready to continue flying me to the Moon. So while I certainly love FCA, this was a very satisfying experience.
Last week I spend a night in the city. I called FC and said can I get an appt at (blank) time. I was within walking distance so parking wasn't an issue for me. I got there at the agreed time and it takes about three minutes before the door was opened. I said I was the one that called earlier and she said ok, and then asked me if I mind waiting because two people showed up earlier for their appts. I had nothing else to do so I said ok I will wait. She turned on the TV for me to watch while I waited. About 25 minutes later (I love this part) when a customer was leaving, they led him out a different door so we would not have to look at each other as he was leaving. I had MiMi who has a very nice body. My TS was good and it didn't feel rush. The rest is just like the others described. UpFor Fun likes FC.
Whoo yeah! FC wears the crown CH1 earned just a few moons ago. I've traveled about a little bit and must say that we have it pretty neat here in Philly with regards AMP's. Quite honestly if not for the local AMP I'd still be resisting a salad tossin'. Homophobic me would never had known.
Ok, so bigcatt decided to detour from FCA and try the well reviewed blue door spot. Easily found street parking near by, and found the destination up the way from the Hampton Inn. Entered after buzzing and door opened immediately. MS gave me a smile and showed me in to a room as I asked if Jennifer was available. MS asked how did I know about Jennifer if this was my 1st time, and I told her that I had seen her ad on BP to which she said, no problem to my choice. So I am in the room for like half a minute, when there's a knock at the door, and in she comes. Wow, this woman is really in shape albeit a bit more made up than need be. But very nice to my eyes. She asks me for the house fee, and tells me to get undressed and she will return for us to do TS. So I get myself wrapped in a towel and Jennifer returns to lead me by the hand to the TS. Lying face down she pours warm water over me, and I start to relax, then come the soap combined with some massage touches, nice. Now some therapists tend to move through the table shower quick, but not Jennifer, she's really thorough and gave nice attention everyplace and in some places very special attention. So when it was time to flip over, my flag was up, and feeling her hands run over my chest and playing with my equipment really got me going. Finally, it was rinse time, followed by drying time. At this point, I knew that this session would be good. Back to the room, and on to the table for a moment as she left for a moment. As the panties and the bra hit the floor upon return, I was treated to a view of a truly fine body. And then treated to feeling her use it to massage my back, my legs, my ass, etc in a light and very sensual manner. Now, I usually like my massage firm, but I was fully going with the flow. As reported elsewhere, Jennifer's lips and tongue started kissing my back, my legs, and oooh yeah my ass. Suffice to say, this woman really tossed bigcatt's salad, then had me flip over and was ready to continue flying me to the Moon. So while I certainly love FCA, this was a very satisfying experience.
Long time reader of this site, but finally joined to ask a question. Anybody been to Four Season Therapy in Ambler? Closest place to my hotel.
Sarcastic King
12-06-11, 16:22
Whats the damage at FC?
Long time reader of this site, but finally joined to ask a question. Anybody been to Four Season Therapy in Ambler? Closest place to my hotel.There should be older reports way back there somewhere, although admittedly they might not be a true representation of what to expect today but if memory and history serves this is a spot that as most suburban spas are HR only places, and the standard fees you will expect to pay in the city still apply. House + $. It's been a few years for me at the 4-seasons so again I can't say what today's practice will be but my standard method is to call and find out how much the hourly session is (likely $60) , thats my way to let a spot know to expect my new face, I can say "I called earlier about coming." and when I go for my session simply pay the whole grip up front as if to behaviorally state that I expect that little bit of extra without that dance that you sometimes have to suffer thru while they try to determine if you are a 'square' joe actually looking for a "massage" or someone plainly familiar with the scene and is coming to get yer fluids liberated as standard. If the mama or whomever has a look of confusion as to the extra $ I figure I'd look back with similar stark surprise and quizzically look at them as if they are the weird ones and ask pointedly "what? We can't have fun here? Really?", take your money back and proceed to leave to your backup place if you have one. Never had this experience at the 4-season tho.
Wiggles0923
12-08-11, 22:11
I will be staying in Pottstown Pa over Christmas. I was wondering if anyone would recommend a good place to monger, an escort or AMP in the area. I can exchange information on the Detroit area.
Thanks
Philly Dogg
12-09-11, 17:56
Whats the damage at FC?Saw Bianca the other day. Well worth the 1. 6 Dogg.
Basketball
12-10-11, 07:56
Saw Bianca the other day. Well worth the 1. 6 Dogg.What's on Bianca's menu Dog?
Saw Bianca the other day. Well worth the 1. 6 Dogg.Nice. Loved the details so much I'm think Imma book a session with her on my next trip. LOL.
Blockhead2
12-11-11, 06:23
Been there before had a great time went back last night had a older woman. Think she said her name was yong sun. Nice rack ts ok some BBBJ and the slide went back to the room more BBBJ went to DATY but she wouldn't let me. Has anyone else had her she is the first one that wouldn't let me DATY. Any way not that bad loves doggie finshed mish. I want to try a gain would like to try to DATY like to see if she would let me this time.
Baretta Ri
12-16-11, 04:59
Thinking of trying this place and was wondering how the neighborhood is and if there is any secure after hours parking nearby. The ad says they are 24hrs, so I will be looking to hit them around 1AM during the week. The last time I thought of hitting up a 24hr joint, there was some homeless dude hanging out near the door who was entirely too interested in what was doing so I turned around before I even rang the buzzer.
Cephlapod Love
12-16-11, 12:11
Thinking of trying this place and was wondering how the neighborhood is and if there is any secure after hours parking nearby. The ad says they are 24hrs, so I will be looking to hit them around 1AM during the week. The last time I thought of hitting up a 24hr joint, there was some homeless dude hanging out near the door who was entirely too interested in what was doing so I turned around before I even rang the buzzer.Reminds me of a visit to one of the old AMPs on Race Street. There the homeless dudes offered to "watch" you car for you as you went into the place. Er, that is if you parked on the street out front. When that happened to me I took a tour of the area and came back, parked on a side street and then walked to the AMP. Fortunately the "watchman" was gone otherwise I woulda abandoned the plans. I mentioned it to Mama and she was upset and ready to go out and shoo the guy away. Mama no like some vagrant cutting down her business.
Heading to FC with its new locale sounds interesting. I'd be inclinded to pay the 15-20 bucks to park legal in some lot. Isn't there a lot across from the Tin Angel on 2nd?
Been there before had a great time went back last night had a older woman. Think she said her name was yong sun. Nice rack ts ok some BBBJ and the slide went back to the room more BBBJ went to DATY but she wouldn't let me. Has anyone else had her she is the first one that wouldn't let me DATY. Any way not that bad loves doggie finshed mish. I want to try a gain would like to try to DATY like to see if she would let me this time.I don't go to AMP's all that much but have made a few visits of recent days and I find the same; they seem averse to DATY. I think they put that gel lubricant in themselves just before they are about "to play" in preparation for the FS that eating out that gash no longer seems a option they wish to consider any longer.
So am wondering, what type of customer usually dominate the majority of population at AMP? (white, african, asian, hispanic etc.)
Baretta Ri
12-17-11, 04:03
It could very well be as Iorek stated, but consider another possibility. When I first started this hobby, there were more American establishments than AMP's so I was actually able to carry on a conversation with some of my favorite providers. Where DATY is concerned, they had a couple of other reasons for not being into it with clients. Most common in my experience was the sensitivity of the area and the discomfort that comes from overeating, so to speak. I know we all respect the work ethic of our asian friends, they can be some of the hardest working providers, but remember how tired and beat up you get after a long day at the office. My most regular provider, years ago, would also tell me that she didn't want me going down there because of all the other men she had that day and it didn't seem right to her that I would essentially be going down on all them as well. She was a sweetheart, and I did get to partake if she had a slow day. Getting back to Iorek's point, I have seen plenty of women gelling up immediately before climbing on.
So am wondering, what type of customer usually dominate the majority of population at AMP? (white, african, asian, hispanic etc.)To the best of my (entrely unscientific and statistically insignificant) knowledge it is caucasian. I've never seen any other kind of mongers during my peregrinations. Maybe a couple of asian guys, although I'm not positive about that.
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As far as DATY, it is, fundamentally, an unsafe procedure, and I believe this is the reason it is sometimes unavailable. Actually, I've always been surprised at how many providers do offer it. It is no different from any other "BB" interaction (probably worse). As to her worrying about you "going down" on other mongers, that's nonsense. You're "going down" on them no more than you FS them. Providers tend to be careful hygienically and there's nothing special about DATY in that respect. So in that case, I bet, it was simply a nice, inoffensive way to word a refusal.
Stopped by FC on my way thur town. Was shown a new girl name Jessie, short nice rack and sweet. Nice TS that went longer then usual. The massage was light brushing on the back and front. The end was the same as before but not as hot as with MiMi. I know you guys will break her in more. Took me about 15 minutes before I found a parking spot, wow.
Stopped by FC on my way thur town. Was shown a new girl name Jessie, short nice rack and sweet. Nice TS that went longer then usual. The massage was light brushing on the back and front. The end was the same as before but not as hot as with MiMi. I know you guys will break her in more. Took me about 15 minutes before I found a parking spot, wow.What is the address or general location? Not on their website, just pics and phone number. PM me if you do not want to share address on board. Thanks, Rick>
General location is Old City
To the best of my (entrely unscientific and statistically insignificant) knowledge it is caucasian. I've never seen any other kind of mongers during my peregrinations. Maybe a couple of asian guys, although I'm not positive about that.What if am ugly as shit, would they deny me?
GutsAndGlory
12-26-11, 19:01
What is the address or general location? Not on their website, just pics and phone number. PM me if you do not want to share address on board. Thanks, Rick>On Spring Garden near Spaghetti Warehouse. Parking can be a ***** depending on time of day.
GutsandGlory:
FC moved and the SW is no more as well.
GutsAndGlory
12-27-11, 09:57
GutsandGlory:
FC moved and the SW is no more as well.Wow, go away for a few weeks and see what happens? Actually I knew about SW being gone but I figured we all knew the landmark. I'll call Lily at FC for the new location. Thanks!
Managed to swing by the old city on my holiday east coat road trip and was glad to stop by to see Lily and her girls. Called ahead and tried to set up appointment with the newly minted Paige. Lily showed me in and told me Paige was running late, and asked if I was in a hurry would I like to give Mimi a try. I declined opting to wait for Paige, and so Lily said she would give me the TS. Aware I only had so much time on the parking meter. Now, I like Lily, and in fact, I find her very attractive, but it's better to have the TS with the therapist to "break the ice." Anyway, to cut to the chase, Paige is a slender, buxom, and very attractive k-girl. She started off with a somewhat firm massage and then moved into the soft, then dispensing with the bikini to use all her assets. Now things just got more and more fun. I found she has some skills I really liked, and she is wonderful to the eye from every angle / position. When things were complete, given the room was kind of hot, she offered me another shower. On the way out Lily asked if I was happy and I confirmed that I was happy and gave her a big hug and a squeeze before skipping out into the street to be sure my car received no ticket. Yes, I would repeat with Paige. Have fun, stay safe, and happy new year!
Blockhead2
01-05-12, 18:12
Went back new years eve. Wow very busy had same girl as before. Older dark hair bolt ons. Didn't get name tried DATY again she wouldn't let me. I wanted too bad she has a sweet body. Oh well the shower was good she does the slide and BBBJ. Back to the room no massage right to work BBBJ than cg she likes doogie did that for a while finshed mish as I was coming she screams bingo wow any body have her say that before. That was weird I did not ever hear a girl say that maybe a customer said that before when he was coming now she says it. Still would like to no her name anybody no.
I will be traveling through and am eondering if anybody has had any experience with her. Thanks.
http://philadelphia.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/bodywork-by-a-sexy-strong-curvy-outgoing-filipina-dont-miss-out/8860522
Week and half ago I decided to stop by again and this time around 2pm. I called ahead when I was about an hour away and was told to come on over. I asked about mimi but got Jessie again. TS was still good with all the right places being cleaned. Back to the room and this time I was in a different room. Started out with a light body to body rub then she said to turn over. More B2B rubbing then the CBJ which was good. I asked for DATY and she got in 69. She kept moving so much that I really could not get into it good. She then got into CG for a bit then we went to mish were I had her legs on my shoulders. She was making all the right noises and I could feel her legs tighten around my neck. Let's just say that she deserve an award for that because it was not all that fake acting they usually do. After the clean up, she gave a good back rub then a very good body walking that I enjoyed. I think I got the body walk this time because she had something to hold onto unlike the other room I was in twice before.
I still want to see mimi again but got the feeling it will not happen. I think I got mimi the first time because I had to wait 30 minutes even after calling an hour ahead and that session was 45 minutes while all others have been 30 minutes.
I am thinking of trying another AMP when in town again but don't know who the go with. Just want to try a different girl, but will probably stay with FC since they know me.
Stay Safe
Avramgodol
01-27-12, 03:06
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/Cops-investigating-massage-parlor-robbery.html
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/Cops-investigating-massage-parlor-robbery.htmlDang I know someone that was right at the scene, crazy how they will rob a massage parlor. Don't they have bodyguards usually?
Dang I know someone that was right at the scene, crazy how they will rob a massage parlor. Don't they have bodyguards usually?I am just guessing. If there is a bodyguard, I'd think he's there to protect the girls from the odd unhappy monger who might go after a girl. I dougt if the bodyguard is there to insure each customer gets his happy ending.
Ah! Shit! No happy ending. (I wonder if after the police interviews the mongers involved went back and got their happy endings. This just goes to show you that there are pit falls in every phase of our hobby.)
Curious minds want to know. ROFLMAO.
CookyJar
I am just guessing. If there is a bodyguard, I'd think he's there to protect the girls from the odd unhappy monger who might go after a girl. I dougt if the bodyguard is there to insure each customer gets his happy ending.
Ah! Shit! No happy ending. (I wonder if after the police interviews the mongers involved went back and got their happy endings. This just goes to show you that there are pit falls in every phase of our hobby.)
Curious minds want to know. ROFLMAO.
CookyJarI heard people next door thought the massage parlor was a hair salon all along LOL, cause it has one of those blue and white spinning thing that's hung on the door. Sounds like a shop well disguised yet it still got rob, maybe the robber intended to rob a hair salon instead. I hope AMP still let us do walk ins.
The monger probably went back and got his happy ENDING, probably will be his last cause the whole block saw him gunning out the massage parlor naked (he probably got his ass whipped by his wife now LOL)
Horsetrader
02-04-12, 12:20
Dang I know someone that was right at the scene, crazy how they will rob a massage parlor. Don't they have bodyguards usually?Twice I've asked AMP girls if they have on site security. Both times I got the same answer: sometimes. I don't know if that means usually they do or usually they don't. And the question was at the same AMP so others may be different.
Dang I know someone that was right at the scene, crazy how they will rob a massage parlor. Don't they have bodyguards usually?One of the robbers had a gun, that's serious stuff (the other, knife, not a joke either). A guard might have been there, but decided not to escalate, hoping they'll take the money and go away; iow, in order to avoid potential gunfire, broken chairs, and dead bodies inside the business. AMPs would Benefit from a metal detector, I think, though. Somiething unobtrusive. Most people will pass; those who don't, can be kept an eye on in case it's more than foil in their cigarettes. BTW, I read somewhere the robbers got about $300, gosh, was it worth the risk of being shot, and the likely future imprisonment, I wonder. After all, they couldn't know how the people inside would react. These Philly thugs are very dumb. Otoh, there's more and more thuggery, hey Nutter, what do you think will happen? Mr Mayor has apparently staked his career on distributing largesse to his constituency, hey, how about some public order in addition? Is the city not broke enough, you want what little of business activity that still remained there so far to leave?
PS. Do you think Nutter reads this forum? I hope so.
Thedarkstar
02-18-12, 11:10
I went to Apple Spa (formally Pavillion) last Sunday. This was my first time at their location. Called ahead and was told to come on over. Once I got there I was told they were busy and to come back in an hour. I came back in exactly one hour. Was introduced to Suzy and was led upstairs. Suzy is Korean and in her mid to late twenties with C-cup breasts. Good table shower then back to the room. Once we got back to the room the fun started. We both stood up with her clothes off just feeling each other up. This kinda put me in the mood right away so o went the cover. She started with some CBJ but after about 10sec I was ready to fuck her. She lubed us both up. FS in missionary with several variations. Came hard. Great massage after. No rush. Nice conversation skills. Standard donation. Recommended.
Greg Carter
02-25-12, 12:47
Checked it out. Two door system. Saw Eve. She insisted that the door. 6 and then additional 1 was not enough. However, after a little teeth and being covered is certainly not to make me leave her with a "gag gift". She commented several times on my physique. I do work out and am in good shape. She finally ceased with the teeth and then gave me the old oriental squat, cg, mish, K9, and then an on the side with two handed breastfeeding action. That got me to need a nap. Your town is apparently ripe with action. Too bad you have more off tangent discussion than reporting.
http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/Cops-investigating-massage-parlor-robbery.htmlThats bad, although is inconveniet they should use metal detectors to avoid this kind of situations. Seems that massage parlors have become popular places for this kind of activity. I don't recall ever go to this place but there is another called new world that had the same problem last 2 years ago.
However, after a little teeth and being covered is certainly not to make me leave her with a "gag gift".Eh? . Come again?
Eh? . Come again?got to come first to come again.
RichmondDude
03-02-12, 00:34
I will be in KOP. 3/8 till 3/11. Looking for a good AMP, from Richmond, will be staying near mall. If you ever in Richmond Va. Hit me up, lot of action here. Thanks
I will be in KOP. 3/8 till 3/11. Looking for a good AMP, from Richmond, will be staying near mall. If you ever in Richmond Va. Hit me up, lot of action here. ThanksThere are 2 in kop the power massage 144 Ivy Lane King Of Prussia, and Massage Therapy & Spa neither one I would recomend never been to them myself but the power massage my friend tried rushed service older ladies best HJ same with other from other reports I read. If you want drive 10 to 15 min most, I can tell you myself go to Ridge spa 1000 ridge pk conshohocken been there few times can get FS if right one is there but 9 times out of 10 get everything but FS right now if you go you will not go wrong with sunny or honey hard to make out name very perky good service.
There are 2 in kop the power massage 144 Ivy Lane King Of Prussia, and Massage Therapy & Spa neither one I would recomend never been to them myself but the power massage my friend tried rushed service older ladies best HJ same with other from other reports I read. If you want drive 10 to 15 min most, I can tell you myself go to Ridge spa 1000 ridge pk conshohocken been there few times can get FS if right one is there but 9 times out of 10 get everything but FS right now if you go you will not go wrong with sunny or honey hard to make out name very perky good service.Hey I need a little help. I am from Chicago and will be visiting Philly this week. What are typical rates in your area. HJ 40-60 FS 100-150?
Hey I need a little help. I am from Chicago and will be visiting Philly this week. What are typical rates in your area. HJ 40-60 FS 100-150?I'd say 40-50 for HJ and 100-120 for FS are the usual rates. Though some will try to get the max you listed. Stand your ground if you don't want to pay the higher rates. They will usually accept the usual.
I'd say 40-50 for HJ and 100-120 for FS are the usual rates. Though some will try to get the max you listed. Stand your ground if you don't want to pay the higher rates. They will usually accept the usual.Which hole did you crawl out of Mr 1 poster? You will be standing by yourself jerking off if you think you can get FS for 100-120 at an AMP. Geeezzz. Do some homework.
Which hole did you crawl out of Mr 1 poster? You will be standing by yourself jerking off if you think you can get FS for 100-120 at an AMP. Geeezzz. Do some homework.Done plenty of homework for the last 2 years. The standard for Philly AMPs has been 100-120. What have you been paying?
Which hole did you crawl out of Mr 1 poster? You will be standing by yourself jerking off if you think you can get FS for 100-120 at an AMP. Geeezzz. Do some homework.Just checked your posts. You are not from around here I guess. NY is much more expensive dude.
Which hole did you crawl out of Mr 1 poster? You will be standing by yourself jerking off if you think you can get FS for 100-120 at an AMP. Geeezzz. Do some homework.I found. 4 or. 6 to house mom. 2.00 to the girl works.
Hope this helps.
Amp Forever
03-07-12, 11:13
Greetings from NOVA,
Will be visiting your fair city at the end of this month (staying downtown). Planned on hitting an AMP while there. Was expecting rates of. 6 house fee (it's. 8 in NOVA) and $ to $.2 for FS (this is the going rate in NOVA, when you can find FS, which isn't often. Will FS really cost $$ (on top of house fee)? If so, I will probably just do an outcall to my hotel. Thanks mongers in the City of Brotherly love.
I found. 4 or. 6 to house mom. 2.00 to the girl works.
Hope this helps.You guys are overpaying. If you pay more than 120 (+50-60 house fee) in the philly area you are either rich, with a really demanding chick who can't be bargained with or not from around here. It's ok to pay what you do, but around here you can pay less. There is even a place in Wilmington, De where I pay 100 for FS (when I find a chick that is up for it) and guys are telling me they are getting away with paying 80 (hard to believe though).
Greetings from NOVA,
Will be visiting your fair city at the end of this month (staying downtown). Planned on hitting an AMP while there. Was expecting rates of. 6 house fee (it's. 8 in NOVA) and $ to $.2 for FS (this is the going rate in NOVA, when you can find FS, which isn't often. Will FS really cost $$ (on top of house fee)? If so, I will probably just do an outcall to my hotel. Thanks mongers in the City of Brotherly love.The "bang shops" in Philly will go for 60 for the house and 100 (usually) for FS. Some girls will try to get more and some guys pay more for great service. I'd say 180 is a realistic grand total but 160 is also possible. Whatever you do pay watch for the places that will rush you out of there in less than an hour.
The "bang shops" in Philly will go for 60 for the house and 100 (usually) for FS. Some girls will try to get more and some guys pay more for great service. I'd say 180 is a realistic grand total but 160 is also possible. Whatever you do pay watch for the places that will rush you out of there in less than an hour.Can you just spell out your math. One moment you say no more than 1. 20 and the next is 1. 60 to 1. 80. WTF! Let us know which "bang house" you go to and how much you pay. Read my posts. I spell it all out. And if you read my post. I go everywhere in the US including your City of Brotherly Love.
Here is what I am going to recommend. Withdraw 1. 6 (one hundred and sixty dollars) and hand it over to your massuer at one of the fine AMPs in the city. You're done. No worrying what portion goes to the house and her. And if you are in the big apple, bring 2. 00.
Will appreciate if you share some intel.
Can you just spell out your math. One moment you say no more than 1. 20 and the next is 1. 60 to 1. 80. WTF! Let us know which "bang house" you go to and how much you pay. Read my posts. I spell it all out. And if you read my post. I go everywhere in the US including your City of Brotherly Love.
Here is what I am going to recommend. Withdraw 1. 6 (one hundred and sixty dollars) and hand it over to your massuer at one of the fine AMPs in the city. You're done. No worrying what portion goes to the house and her. And if you are in the big apple, bring 2. 00.
Will appreciate if you share some intel.I think he spelled it out the first time when he said that "120 (+50-60 house fee)" was the high end on what to pay. Therefore, you two are agreeing with each other. And, it matches the prices I have seen from local AMPs, as well. So, I agree, too. Sometimes, the girl will spell it out explicitly when you come in "160". Other, times, they ask for the house fee (around 60) , and then when the woman comes back you negotiate a tip.
Cephlapod Love
03-08-12, 01:04
Can you just spell out your math. One moment you say no more than 1. 20 and the next is 1. 60 to 1. 80. WTF! Let us know which "bang house" you go to and how much you pay. Read my posts. I spell it all out. And if you read my post. I go everywhere in the US including your City of Brotherly Love.
Here is what I am going to recommend. Withdraw 1. 6 (one hundred and sixty dollars) and hand it over to your massuer at one of the fine AMPs in the city. You're done. No worrying what portion goes to the house and her. And if you are in the big apple, bring 2. 00.
Will appreciate if you share some intel.My advice fwiw. Head to FunCity which is arguably the best in CC. FunCityAsians in your search will get you to website & contact info.
My understanding of the fare: $60 house fee, $100 for the fine lady. Then at the end, expect to tip your attendant if good service received. Often never asked for a FC, just leave it in plain sight while you get undressed. She will see it when she comes back and "know" what you want.
Can you just spell out your math. One moment you say no more than 1. 20 and the next is 1. 60 to 1. 80. WTF! Let us know which "bang house" you go to and how much you pay. Read my posts. I spell it all out. And if you read my post. I go everywhere in the US including your City of Brotherly Love.
Here is what I am going to recommend. Withdraw 1. 6 (one hundred and sixty dollars) and hand it over to your massuer at one of the fine AMPs in the city. You're done. No worrying what portion goes to the house and her. And if you are in the big apple, bring 2. 00.
Will appreciate if you share some intel.Ha. My math does seem all over the place. What I meant to say was. 60 for the house fee and 100 to 120 for the "tip" hence 160 to 180.
Can you just spell out your math. One moment you say no more than 1. 20 and the next is 1. 60 to 1. 80. WTF! Let us know which "bang house" you go to and how much you pay. Read my posts. I spell it all out. And if you read my post. I go everywhere in the US including your City of Brotherly Love.
Here is what I am going to recommend. Withdraw 1. 6 (one hundred and sixty dollars) and hand it over to your massuer at one of the fine AMPs in the city. You're done. No worrying what portion goes to the house and her. And if you are in the big apple, bring 2. 00.
Will appreciate if you share some intel.They will always tell you the house fee. Pay it. Some. 6 some. 7. They will make change.
Then expect 1. 1.2 for your girl then a tip if she is worth it. Leave this on the dresser, don't be cheap, a few sheckles goes a long way.
Travel with 200 cash and you'll be fine. Maybe you'll leave with enough for a pack of smokes maybe you won't. If you don't you probably won't mind.
Can you just spell out your math. One moment you say no more than 1. 20 and the next is 1. 60 to 1. 80. WTF!Trav, he meant on top of the house fee. If you read his note carefully, you will notice that he was talking specifically about "extras", not total damage. His numbers are correct. BTW, while I'm here, I'd encourage everyone to stick to the standard $.6. You can give anything you want as a tip for uncommonly good experience, but make sure it's a tip, not dues. The economy is bad, money's tight, dues are $.6, and please keep it that way.
There are times that too much of a good thing is simply that; too much. In my last few visits to Fun City, this seems to be the case. Each of the three girls that I have seen have been beautiful both facially and in body. But this is where the fun for me ended. Each of the these times, the young ladies that I have met (Bobi, Heidi and Cherry) looked like the kind of girl that you would see gracing the arm of a celebrity or a pro athlete but unfortunately, each time when it came time to take care of business it seemed like a cold breeze swept into the room and I was suddenly with a robot who wanted the deed to be done and NOW! If I wanted that to be my experience, I would have just stayed home and spent time with my wife. When Lilly asked how was everything when I was leaving, I gave her a disapproving look, but it seemed to be to no avail as the language barrier I possess with her would not allow me to speak frankly about each appointment. I would like to think that these were just one-off situations, but three strikes in a row is not a coincedence. It is a trend and sadly, not a good one. As always, YMMV, but for me I will be taking my ball and playing elsewhere. If these pastures turn up something or someone worth writing about, I will of course share info. As always, happy hunting and stay safe.
Cephlapod Love
03-10-12, 13:38
When Lilly asked how was everything when I was leaving, I gave her a disapproving look, but it seemed to be to no avail as the language barrier I possess with her would not allow me to speak frankly about each appointment. I would like to think that these were just one-off situations, but three strikes in a row is not a coincedence. It is a trend and sadly, not a good one. As always, YMMV, but for me I will be taking my ball and playing elsewhere. If these pastures turn up something or someone worth writing about, I will of course share info. As always, happy hunting and stay safe.Right there is where I think you cheated yourself. Lilly has not stayed in business as long as she has with the reputation she has giving poor experiences. If you were not happy, then you owed it to yourself to SPEAK UP. How can she tell what a "disapproving look" means and how to accommodate you the next time? Sometime, even though it is uncomfortable, one has to help Lilly help you. I'm just sayin' Good luck!
Right there is where I think you cheated yourself. Lilly has not stayed in business as long as she has with the reputation she has giving poor experiences. If you were not happy, then you owed it to yourself to SPEAK UP. How can she tell what a "disapproving look" means and how to accommodate you the next time? Sometime, even though it is uncomfortable, one has to help Lilly help you. I'm just sayin' Good luck!A reply coming from someone of your tenure on the site bears a little more credence than a newer member. Thanks for taking the time to reply. When this first happened with Heidi, I did speak with her, both at the location and on the phone. Each time she said she would make it up to me. When this same situation happened again, same story;"I will make it up to you." After this third time with the same result, I am not sure that it is worth giving it another shot, no pun intended. Maybe in a few weeks I may feel differently, but who knows. I agree that Lilly has a great reputation and it is very deserved, but sometimes even the best coaches and GM's have a bad season. Maybe it is just a good time for me to sit on the sidelines and wait till the players change.
I haven't been to their new facility since I know way too many folks who work in the immediate area. But given the location, I am sure the rent at this new property is at least twice what they were paying previously which may be an indication why guys are feeling rushed, inattentive, etc. This way Lilly can make up the difference with higher volume. I said this previously and will say it again. The trend at CH has been disappointing, not to mention that some of the other AMP's are coming up with pretty good talent themselves. Especially the one around the Convention Center. Peace.
I haven't been to their new facility since I know way too many folks who work in the immediate area. But given the location, I am sure the rent at this new property is at least twice what they were paying previously which may be an indication why guys are feeling rushed, inattentive, etc. This way Lilly can make up the difference with higher volume. I said this previously and will say it again. The trend at CH has been disappointing, not to mention that some of the other AMP's are coming up with pretty good talent themselves. Especially the one around the Convention Center. Peace.What is kind of funny is that this board is the only reason I started going to FC. I had been going to another place for years but when my favorite flavor left on her 'vacation' I decided to change places. Like I said, I was very happy with the staff at the old location and even at the new place for some time, but it just seems like since the New Year things have changed.
Amp Forever
03-12-12, 17:03
Fellow Mongers,
I am a Northern Virginia (NOVA) monger who posted earlier in anticipation of a business trip to Philly this month. Just wanted to thank all of you for your insight into the AMP scene there. I will probably go to FC on my first night as it is only a short distance from my hotel (will report back on the results). Although there have been some inconsistent reports of late, I am willing to assume that the good rep of this AMP is still justified.
For my second visit (unfortunately only enough time of two shots) , I was thinking about some place in Chinatown. My concern is that, at lead here in NOVA, my experiences with Chinese places has been mixed. I sometimes get an uncomfortable feeling that the girls are not completely volunteers (they changed every week and I was always given "new girl" ). I never get that feeling in Korean places. Anyplace that I should not visit to avoid these feelings would be appreciated (by PM would be fine).
Finally, it may seem stupid, but I assume the girls bring the raincoats (not always the case here in NOVA).
Thanks
There is a place practically next door to FC.
Places in Chinatown, doesn't automatically mean Chinese attendants.
I haven't been to their new facility since I know way too many folks who work in the immediate area. But given the location, I am sure the rent at this new property is at least twice what they were paying previously which may be an indication why guys are feeling rushed, inattentive, etc. This way Lilly can make up the difference with higher volume. I said this previously and will say it again. The trend at CH has been disappointing, not to mention that some of the other AMP's are coming up with pretty good talent themselves. Especially the one around the Convention Center. Peace.Recommedations near Convention Center?
What is kind of funny is that this board is the only reason I started going to FC. I had been going to another place for years but when my favorite flavor left on her 'vacation' I decided to change places. Like I said, I was very happy with the staff at the old location and even at the new place for some time, but it just seems like since the New Year things have changed.Puck, I share your story. Been going to FC for about 2 years. Liked the old place better. Girls usually spent more time with you (unless high volume time). Have not had the same experience with anyone at the new FC as I did with the old, not to say that the new FC is bad, just have not visited that frequent as I did the old location. I find that at FC (and other AMPs I frequent) I try to stay with the same provider a few times (before switching if not good). When they get to know you after a few times, it becomes less mechnical and more about what you are looking for. Later, BT3
Amp Forever
03-29-12, 06:17
Thanks for all the info you guys gave to this NOVA monger who was in Philly for a quick visit.
Called FCA 3 hours early and scheduled a visit with Cherry. Showed up and Lily lead me into room. Told me she had nice girl available (Sera) ; started to think "here comes the old bait and switch". Asked if Cherry was available, Lily says no. I find this annoying since I made the appointment and was on time. Sera comes in and she is a cute spinner, and I didn't have time to go elsewhere since I was on a tight schedule. So I agreed (after all Sera was a lot better looking than what I am used to in NOVA). She examined the donation (without touching) and initially had a look of concern (maybe I hadn't spread the bills out enough for her to see the amount $.6 was there). TS was O. K, but ironically, this is one place where I am used to much better. Back to room, massage in a bit on the heavy side. She included back walking, which is not my cup of tea (at least she was lightweight). Then off with the bikini and some B2B rubbing. On the flip, on went the cover and a average, okay CBJ follows for a few minutes. She flips onto her back ready for mish. I slow it down and start with some nursing. She does have nice (but A cup) naturals and this was enjoyable. I slide down for DATY, which she was okay with. Grabbed the towel and wiped the lube off first. After a while, went to miss for a while, and then to doggy. Would like to have tried some more, but when I am hitting a nice spinner with a cute ass from the rear, that finishes me off. Cleaned up, finish with masaggi and help getting dressed. Talked to Lily a bit on the way out. Didn't mention the bait and switch and told her that Sera was okay (not exactly an over the top recommendation). Overall, it was a good visit and mush better than I am getting in NOVA these days.
Amp Forever
03-30-12, 06:41
Caution, call ahead and don't assume their hours are accurate on their BP or CL ads. Had a narrow time frame to get in a second slice while in Philly, so was looking for an early (6 am) visit. Called New World, who advertise as 24/7 and they said they were really 10-10. Asked at Fun City, but that was also a no go (they don't post their hours, but I asked and it is about 10-2 am-ish). Did check out King and they were agreeable, but the older provider there didn't seem worth getting up at 5 AM.
http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/267-575-0448-european-spa-lunch-time-special-50-20/8952084
European Hands Spa (near Vine & 12th) advertises "Russians". I was in town last week for work, and thought I would try this out. Should have been tipped off by there only being one actual massage table in the room, I guess. The girl wasn't Russian-she sounded like she was from Jersey. She says $50 plus tip. I asked what people usually tip. She says at least $20, and I offered $100, so it should have been obvious what I was after. She gave a decent massage, uncovered, both sides, then asked "is there anything else you want massaged?" I said,"Sure," and she gave me a decent HJ. Popped her tits out of her bra and pulled her shirt up, said I could touch if I wanted. They were natural, at least. She wasn't enthusiastic about the HJ at all. Which sucked because it was the most expensive one I've ever had! YMMV, but don't expect anything other than a half-decent massage here.
Cephlapod Love
04-13-12, 09:55
http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/267-575-0448-european-spa-lunch-time-special-50-20/8952084
European Hands Spa (near Vine & 12th) advertises "Russians". I was in town last week for work, and thought I would try this out. Should have been tipped off by there only being one actual massage table in the room, I guess. The girl wasn't Russian-she sounded like she was from Jersey. She says $50 plus tip. I asked what people usually tip. She says at least $20, and I offered $100, so it should have been obvious what I was after. She gave a decent massage, uncovered, both sides, then asked "is there anything else you want massaged?" I said,"Sure," and she gave me a decent HJ. Popped her tits out of her bra and pulled her shirt up, said I could touch if I wanted. They were natural, at least. She wasn't enthusiastic about the HJ at all. Which sucked because it was the most expensive one I've ever had! YMMV, but don't expect anything other than a half-decent massage here.Sorry about the bad experience! Thanks for the warning, however.
Never been to one, but from reading the threads, it seems like RMPs are notorious for YMMV.
It wasn't clear if you gave a Ben for a HJ or not? Seems like being clear what one wants from the lady before forking over that kind of money is a good idea? Yes, at the AMPs one can get away with just dropping the whole fee on the table up front, but that has some risk too. Perhaps the place to have the $$$ negotiation is when she asked is there anything else you want massaged? Assuming they are going to know what you want. Hey any girl that can get 100 for a HJ will take it! When she asked, rather than just saying "sure" perhaps this is a good place to say," I want to scr*w!" Personally, I wouldn't let that kinda scratch out of my hand until we had an understanding. Tune up your game, chalk this one up as lessons learned and venture forth again! We all have those kinds of stories. Just few willing t share them. Thanks again & good luck!
Msaunders6969
04-14-12, 11:48
http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/267-575-0448-european-spa-lunch-time-special-50-20/8952084
European Hands Spa (near Vine & 12th) advertises "Russians". I was in town last week for work, and thought I would try this out. Should have been tipped off by there only being one actual massage table in the room, I guess. The girl wasn't Russian-she sounded like she was from Jersey. She says $50 plus tip. I asked what people usually tip. She says at least $20, and I offered $100, so it should have been obvious what I was after. She gave a decent massage, uncovered, both sides, then asked "is there anything else you want massaged?" I said,"Sure," and she gave me a decent HJ. Popped her tits out of her bra and pulled her shirt up, said I could touch if I wanted. They were natural, at least. She wasn't enthusiastic about the HJ at all. Which sucked because it was the most expensive one I've ever had! YMMV, but don't expect anything other than a half-decent massage here.Seems to be a few providers on Vine Street. I went to the same place twice. The first time she gave a decent massage then crawled up on the table between my legs for some kissing and an erotic HJ. A few weeks later I called the same number and another girl answered. She told me my girl would be available in an hour so I headed over to the location. When I arrived she told me my girl had to leave because of an emergency but that she was available. This girl was also a very attractive spinner who allowed a lot of down the pants roaming and gave a decent HJ. Honestly I don't think my girl was ever working that night but it was just a ploy to get me there. All worked out well but I didn't like the deception.
All worked out well but I didn't like the deception.Damages?
In general, I think RMPs have a lousy reputation. Not so much for YMMV as for YMWBVLAHO ("will be very low and horribly overpriced" aka "ripoff"). And I'd never tip ahead of time unless I knew exactly what's involved, and that is possible only in CC AMPs. And even that only if I knew if not the provider then at least the place and they did a good job historically. Otherwise, pay the house fee and then wait for the menu to be explained to you: if there's nothing on it, at least you'll leave "undamaged". In an unknown place, tip only after the service has been rendered. That's what a tip is, after all.
I'm a newbie though. Visited one AMP here in AL but I haven't made it back yet. If any of you ever head south, there are a couple of decent places in Birmingham but not much else.
Jumping Jim
04-25-12, 03:06
I'm a newbie though. Visited one AMP here in AL but I haven't made it back yet. If any of you ever head south, there are a couple of decent places in Birmingham but not much else.Not trying to pick on the educational system in AL, but you're a little lost there capstoner. This is Philly not AL.
Take another toke and it is all good.
I am traveling to pensylvania nd am looking for a great outcall massage with a proper end. Any suggestions? Any nody seen this one?
http://www.aheavenlyknead.com
Thanks
GutsAndGlory
05-03-12, 22:47
I am traveling to pensylvania nd am looking for a great outcall massage with a proper end. Any suggestions? Any nody seen this one?
http://www.aheavenlyknead.com
ThanksI always thought she was a legit massage. Ie. No "proper end." If you're in the Lancaster area, I would recommend Whirl-a-Sage http://www.spahunters.com/spa/1903/Whirl_A_Sage Even though it is not outcall. You'll have a choice of attendants, choice of session length and very definitely the conclusion you have in mind. Not a lot of other options in Central PA.
Jumping Jim
05-18-12, 18:06
Heard via the grape vine that the old AMP at 1041 Ridge where it was known as Callowhill 2 or CH2 is back with the same management it opened with. Yes the same little flower. She has 2 gals that are just like the old gals with BBBJ's and the shower slide for the standard rate. It brings back many memories with too many walks up those stairs.
I called and my favorite flower answered and said it was all true. She said Suki and Sophia are working. I asked if it was "the Suki" from the old place and she laughed and said no but this Suki is popular. I am planning a trip this weekend. BTW the phone number is 215 763-6077.
Heard via the grape vine that the old AMP at 1041 Ridge where it was known as Callowhill 2 or CH2 is back with the same management it opened with. Yes the same little flower. She has 2 gals that are just like the old gals with BBBJ's and the shower slide for the standard rate. It brings back many memories with too many walks up those stairs.
I called and my favorite flower answered and said it was all true. She said Suki and Sophia are working. I asked if it was "the Suki" from the old place and she laughed and said no but this Suki is popular. I am planning a trip this weekend. BTW the phone number is 215 763-6077.I found their ad on backpage. They're called Bella Asian. Website is www.bellaasian.com.
RyanAnderson
05-19-12, 00:19
Just had my first AMP experience today. Was unbelievably nervous. So nervous to the point that I couldn't achieve wood until she started jerking my cock. Don't know what was wrong with me, couldn't relax and my mind kept racing. I have some questions though. How are you supposed to act in these places? Is moaning ok? Is touching the girl ok? Are you supposed to sit there quietly and relax? I am definitely going to go back but I would like some people who are more experienced to educate me first.
Just had my first AMP experience today. Was unbelievably nervous. So nervous to the point that I couldn't achieve wood until she started jerking my cock. Don't know what was wrong with me, couldn't relax and my mind kept racing. I have some questions though. How are you supposed to act in these places? Is moaning ok? Is touching the girl ok? Are you supposed to sit there quietly and relax? I am definitely going to go back but I would like some people who are more experienced to educate me first.Hey rookie. Congrats on getting your cherry popped. First piece of advice. RELAX and enjoy the ride. You're paying good $ for these experiences. Maybe drink a shot before you go in. Next, try a variety of places. The services that different AMP's offer vary widely from place to place. Some are just HJ places, but others offer FS, BJ's, even prostate rubs (if you're into that). Backpage. Com has ads for all of them. Table showers and regular massages are great, but if you just want to get right to the good stuff, just say "I'm clean. I just took a shower" (usually works for me. You better be clean, though. Attendants don't appreciate slobs). When it's time for the good stuff, be honest and tell them what you want. The attendant will say whether she offers it or not. Then establish a price before you start so there are no surprises on either end (she'll usually ask for $ upfront anyway for the "extras"). As for making noise, go ahead and let loose a little. She'll tell you if you're being too loud. Touching is usually OK, but again it varies from place to place. Just ask and you shall receive. Good luck. P. S. I hope that's not your real name. It's best to stay anonymous on these sites.
Maybe drink a shot before you go in.I got to disagree with that one! . He said he had trouble achieving wood, now, it's a worldwide known phenomenon that drink relaxes psychology but impedes performance. I know that to be true from personal experience. My advice is to forego drinking before doing anything of this sort.
I'd also add that in Philly the going rate for the whole thing is $.6, so, unless you need something special, you don't really need to discuss anything wherever you go. Just hand in the donation and enjoy the proceedings w / o thinking of extraneous matters. Lastly, as far as making noise, I'd say, don't. Not that it's something absolutely verboten, but on a number of occasions I heard something from other rooms and I found it annoying. Once or twice my attendant banged into the wall to shut them up. Iow, my advice is, keep it down at least for the sakes of other punters. Otoh, maybe it's just me (personally, I tend to be quiet, not sure why, but it's not an issue for me. In any context I mean, including civilian, meaning I don't have to watch myself.).
Oh, one more thing: what you get exactly differs not so much depending on places, but on specific providers. Some places do tend to be more consistently good (like CH has always been) , but even that isn't an iron-clad guarantee (I had Got rather indifferent jobs even in CH1 and amazing experiences in usually humdrum places like 1112). So don't make too much of an isolated experience. Good OR bad. Just keep going. Overall, my experience is that there will be much more good than bad, but avoiding bad altogether is impossible.
As far as being nervous in general, I think you'll lose your "stage fright" after a couple of sallies. I can't remember my first time, so I can't say exactly how soon, but let's say this: I don't remember being nervous at all, so even if I had initially been a bit wound-up, the condition did not persist.
PS. I wish I knew why this software insists on redacting my posts in nonsensical ways (you can probably see above: randomly capitalized words, etc.) I'm sure it doesn't make the text easier to read, but it's not my fault. I say 'got to', it fixes it to "got to". This idiotic software pisses me off.
Ryan:
You can generally take any direction you want, but all you can "generally" expect 3 things: Massage, FS and TS, although I've been in sessions where only the TS happened.
Anything else, be polite and ask. Asking doesn't have to mean the direct approach.
My last session was 2 hours and 40 minutes. FS did not occur. Extra charges were not involved. Did I have a good time. You bet.
Normal. No way. We spent most of that time curled up in a pretzel with the provider asleep and me relaxed.
Expect a TS, Massage and FS within a 45-60 minute time frame. Further expect, your paying for time. The TS isn't even 100% guaranteed, but it has been for me. The TS has at times been done by the mamsan and once their was a provider switch at the TS because of a phone call.
One place had a pricing structure based on 40, 45 and 60 min sessions. That isn't the norm.
A suggestion is if you find a provider you like, go back and see her again.
The opportunity to ask for a line-up has been dwindling because of few people working.
One of the most sought after services is "the slide" which may be frowned upon by management. It creates an unfair competitive advantage. If at all performed it must be in secret. A second "super quick shower" may, at times, be needed. In some locations, it can be done in standard bathtub / shower.
Say "thank you" with a hug.
RyanAnderson
05-23-12, 16:55
Hi guys,
Back again. Thanks for all of the advice. I went back for 2nds the other day (don't know if I should reveal the place or not). I actually brought some whiskey in my car and was planning on taking 2 shots right before going in but I instead took 1 shot and then said to myself "WTF am I doing, just go in and have fun". So I went in, mamasan (or whatever) opened the door, I smile and say hi how you been. Takes me to the room and the same girl from last time comes in in a nice slutty dress. I kinda wish I got a different girl cause this girl isn't the best looking but she has pretty nice titties. I felt awkward and rude asking for another girl. Anyway I greet her with a hug and I grabbed her ass while hugging her, she giggled and grabbed my dick at the same time. I gave her $ and she goes away, comes back and I'm naked, she grabs me by the dick (hot) and giggles and walks me to the shower with my dick in her hand. This got me turned on and she went to clean the table shower and when she turned around I had a raging boner in her face. She goes "ooah", then again she grabs it giggles and tells me to lay down. This time she cleaned me faster and played with my dick more, tugging it while I was laying face down. Everything was going really good up until this point, then she started to wash my dick and balls, and she accidentally got soap in my pee hole and my dick started to burn. Thankfully the pain went away and she started to dry me off and I got turned on again. There is something erotic about a asian girl who barely speaks english drying you off naked. So she dries me off with a raging boner in her face which made me smile to myself. This time she skips the sauna and takes me str8 to the room and comes back quickly and takes off her clothes. At this point I'm thinking I'm at least going to get a BJ because her routine was different from last time (which was just a massage and a hand job). She skips the massage this time and quickly turns me over and puts a rubber on my dick and starts giving me a BJ. One thing I don't like about this place is that they turn off the light when they give you a BJ or a hand job. I am a visual guy and I like to see when a girl is giving me head or a HJ, so I ask her to turn it on and she said no, kinda strange but whatever. I have only gotten a handful of bjs in my life but this one was particularly bad, she had no emotion to it, just her head going up and down and barely little suction. I tried to get her into it by feeling her tits and kissing her neck but to no avail. Asked if I could suck her tits and she declined. After a few minutes she took off the rubber and oiled my dick and started jerking me off. One thing these girls are good at is giving hand jobs, they grab your dick tight and are aggressive as hell. Me likey. After a few mins I pop and that's that. Overall I give that place a 3/5. Maybe I would like it better if they gave me a different girl. Will probably try a different place next time. We'll see.
Seems like you're doing good! I think you could ask mamasan if someone else is available, or, naturally, you can visit another place. Now that you mentioned that, I think you're correct, they always seem to dim the lights. I kinda liked that, therefore it didn't register, but it does take place.
TheBanker001
05-25-12, 22:41
Thanks for the guidance to the guys from Philadelphia. I took your advise and had a great time on Ridge road with a truly exceptional experience. Great table shower, great body slides, and great.
Slept well last night nice and relaxed.
Thanks for the guidance to the guys from Philadelphia. I took your advise and had a great time on Ridge road with a truly exceptional experience. Great table shower, great body slides, and great.
Slept well last night nice and relaxed.Mayor Nutter should put that on a billboard. Glad you had a great time!
You should try a different place, there are many good places around Race and 12th and 13th. Also I know it feels ackward at the begining to ask for a different girl but you are paying for the session, it's not a free. So go ahead and ask for a different one, if you don't like the first. You will get over the discomfort in 2 min. BTW some of my best sessions have been with less attractive girls, the attitude is just as important if not more so. Have fun.
Hi guys,
Back again. Thanks for all of the advice. I went back for 2nds the other day next time. We'll see.
Fellas, I visited Victoria (
http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/attn-gorgeous-sensual-treat-100-top-notch-100-really-me-sexy-bombshell-23/7844713
) about a month ago. The link above is from her recent ad. I thought that she looked good in the picture so decided to check her out. I called at the number listed in her ad, but being that this was my first time I was nervous, only thing I could ask her was what service she provides for what price (not that I really know what else I could have asked her on phone anyway). She replied I give full body sensual massage for $. Then I 'involuntarily' asked her when she would be available and that could make it to the city in an hour. She said 'fine'. So here I was, on my way to the address she told me. Of course, there had to be traffic on the highway, so I made it there 30 min late, but she was cool about it. She is located on Vine st, so parking was easy to find and it felt relatively safe.
Once there, I called her and she let me in to her building which is a bit beat up, definitely not well kept. I made it to her room in the corner and knocked. She opened the door and I went in to realize that it was more of a storage room than an actual apartment. It was just about big enough to fit a massage table in there. She had set it up to be pretty hot and dark in there with a little lamp and a couple of candles. She was wearing a tight corset which was good looking and tight skinny jeans. She herself though was a short latina and had a big muffin top. She was just about average looking, and for the love of god I could not tell if she was the one in the picture mostly due to non-existent lighting. Perhaps heavily photoshopped picture in the ad too. Well, as she saw me she asked for the money and I gave it to her. Then she asked me to undress and lie face down on the table, and left the room. I was so nervous that I thought that it might have been a set up to catch guys like me and cops are going to come in instead of her!
She did come back in after a few mins and turned on R&B music (not loud) and started massaging me. She was lightly singing while doing it. I haven't had any massages before so I don't have reference to really judge the quality. But, she was patient, gentle, and took time to work different parts. Back, legs, butt (she did not work my butt hole though she went close to it). After about 30 mins she asked me to turn over and now she started working my chest and then legs. She slowly worked her way from my feet toward my crotch, and she stroked my penis. It was good and it was a tease too. About 20 mins to go, I asked her if she was going to undress at all. She said $.5 more for that, I negotiated $.3 for her being topless, she agreed. Then after some more oiling around my crotch, she spread my legs apart and got up on the table and started jerking me off. It felt really good, but then again I don't know if this could be better. She buried my penis in her tits (big but saggy) as she was trying to get me off. And, in about a min I obliged. Then she got up and handed me a few paper towels, dry and wet, to clean up. I put my clothes on, said thanks and bye to her.
Overall, it was a good experience but I am not going to rate it because it was my first venture. My feeling is that I perhaps paid twice as much for what I got. YMMV. I think that I should have negotiated before she started, but I was worried that doing so will erode the experience. Hopefully, I'll get better in time.
Fellas, I visited Victoria (
http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/attn-gorgeous-sensual-treat-100-top-notch-100-really-me-sexy-bombshell-23/7844713
) about a month ago. The link above is from her recent ad. I thought that she looked good in the picture so decided to check her out. I called at the number listed in her ad, but being that this was my first time I was nervous, only thing I could ask her was what service she provides for what price (not that I really know what else I could have asked her on phone anyway). She replied I give full body sensual massage for $. Then I 'involuntarily' asked her when she would be available and that could make it to the city in an hour. She said 'fine'. So here I was, on my way to the address she told me. Of course, there had to be traffic on the highway, so I made it there 30 min late, but she was cool about it. She is located on Vine st, so parking was easy to find and it felt relatively safe.
Once there, I called her and she let me in to her building which is a bit beat up, definitely not well kept. I made it to her room in the corner and knocked. She opened the door and I went in to realize that it was more of a storage room than an actual apartment. It was just about big enough to fit a massage table in there. She had set it up to be pretty hot and dark in there with a little lamp and a couple of candles. She was wearing a tight corset which was good looking and tight skinny jeans. She herself though was a short latina and had a big muffin top. She was just about average looking, and for the love of god I could not tell if she was the one in the picture mostly due to non-existent lighting. Perhaps heavily photoshopped picture in the ad too. Well, as she saw me she asked for the money and I gave it to her. Then she asked me to undress and lie face down on the table, and left the room. I was so nervous that I thought that it might have been a set up to catch guys like me and cops are going to come in instead of her!
She did come back in after a few mins and turned on R&B music (not loud) and started massaging me. She was lightly singing while doing it. I haven't had any massages before so I don't have reference to really judge the quality. But, she was patient, gentle, and took time to work different parts. Back, legs, butt (she did not work my butt hole though she went close to it). After about 30 mins she asked me to turn over and now she started working my chest and then legs. She slowly worked her way from my feet toward my crotch, and she stroked my penis. It was good and it was a tease too. About 20 mins to go, I asked her if she was going to undress at all. She said $.5 more for that, I negotiated $.3 for her being topless, she agreed. Then after some more oiling around my crotch, she spread my legs apart and got up on the table and started jerking me off. It felt really good, but then again I don't know if this could be better. She buried my penis in her tits (big but saggy) as she was trying to get me off. And, in about a min I obliged. Then she got up and handed me a few paper towels, dry and wet, to clean up. I put my clothes on, said thanks and bye to her.
Overall, it was a good experience but I am not going to rate it because it was my first venture. My feeling is that I perhaps paid twice as much for what I got. YMMV. I think that I should have negotiated before she started, but I was worried that doing so will erode the experience. Hopefully, I'll get better in time.
I was in the mood a while back but was torn on where to go so I just decided I would try the old CH on Ridge in Philly as it is supposed to be under new management (Lilly). I walked in and she looked at me quizzically, probably remembering me from FC (haven't been there since they moved). Anyway, she leads me up the stairs and introduces me to Suki, who speaks two words in English. Asks if I want a shower (of course). As I undress, she has a major wardrobe malfunction and quickly wraps herself in a towel and we are off to the shower (that was a first for me). Slippy slide, both sides and back to the room with a stop for mouthwash enroute. (I have had the slide before at FC, but that was in the after shower when Cherry hadn't been able to get me off after and hour and a half.) The massage was more slippy slide, just dry with some tongue action, light biting and sucking, no "real" massage. After the flip, I could see she was just going through her "routine" and seemed unenthused to say the least. At one point she seemed fixated on my right Patella (kneecaps aren't really my thing). She stopped to lube up and I turned the tables on her, telling her is was her turn, face down on the table. I've studied massage, so I started with some light Shiatsu, which she seemed to appreciate. Then I returned the slippy slide favor, (I have a very hairy chest and use it to good effect) had her flip and continued, slipping into DATY. Once she'd had enough, I was back on the table and she continued working up my legs and seemed to really get into some serious BBBJ. That was another first for me in an AMP. She almost got me at that point so I had her apply a cover and ride Western for a while, then to mish for the finale. She seemed pleased, smiling and babbling happily in Korean. I understand Brandy from FC is there as Tiffany. Parking is a royal pain in that area especially during week days, unless you want to walk several blocks.
Heard via the grape vine that the old AMP at 1041 Ridge where it was known as Callowhill 2 or CH2 is back with the same management it opened with. Yes the same little flower. She has 2 gals that are just like the old gals with BBBJ's and the shower slide for the standard rate. It brings back many memories with too many walks up those stairs.
I called and my favorite flower answered and said it was all true. She said Suki and Sophia are working. I asked if it was "the Suki" from the old place and she laughed and said no but this Suki is popular. I am planning a trip this weekend. BTW the phone number is 215 763-6077.
HowardTheDuck
06-02-12, 14:42
Fellas-
I was in Philly recently and partook in the fruits of Fun City. A few reviews say that parking's a be$tch, but I didn't have an issue at all. There's quite a few metered streets within 2 blocks.
Anyway, called ahead of time and asked for the popular name. I believe it was Brandy (correct me if I'm wrong). When I arrived, I was welcomed in quickly and escorted back to the massage room. All the hallways were dark, but it looked like they at at least 10 different rooms. My room had a king sized 4-poster bed. Kind of looked like a small hotel room. It even had a private bathroom (toilet / sink only). Within a minute, Brandy walked in wearing a cute nightie. (Asian / american, full-english speaking. 30yo, perky fake tits, C's at least) After some small talk, she laid a robe on the bed and asked me to undress. She was very direct in asking what I wanted. (My request was FBSM with a HJ / HE, no FS, even though it was on the menu). I changed and put the robe on. 2-3 mins later, she came back in, counted the donation and took to the TS room. She undressed at that time also and gave a decent wash down; including some intimate play in the important areas. She allowed lots of touching.
After the TS, she escorted me back to the room, and asked me to lie face down on the bed. She gave an ok quick attempt at a massage (5-min or so) , but she was naked, so it made up for it. She asked me to flip. She went straight to getting me off. In my opinion she was rushing it a little bit. I would have liked a slower attempt and time to build up. Lots of touching, ended up COT. She cleaned up with a warm wet towel and we called it a night.
During The small talk afterward she described herself as a nympho who absolutely loves her job. I'd go back next time I'm in town.
Oh! And when leaving they take you out a separate door than the entrance (one door to the left of the entrance) to avoid confrontations.
Be safe out there.
HowardTheDuck
06-02-12, 14:55
A little while ago I visited 237 (I think it goes by multiple different names) and had a great experience. It's a little more seedy than some of the Philly AMPs, but still enjoyable. I called ahead and made an appt. I rang the doorbell in the back of the building (which is actually a doubledoor, so some privacy was provided from the street). Mamasan opened and said they were full, but to come back in 30 minutes. So I went for a walk and came back. She escorted me to the room (thin walls, low massage table with a giant mirror covering the entire back wall. Loved that part).
A few minutes later, a cute asian gal entered; couldn't have been older than 20. Very bubbly, playful and "giggly". Perfect body, small perky fake tits, rock hard. She undressed me and played a little bit with the important areas before we even started. Then walked me to the TS room. These weren't very private, as they were more like shower stalls with just a curtain providing privacy from the hallway. The girl entered naked and began to wash me down. She did a few body slides and came very close to causing me to enter her during a slide, but kept it kosher.
After the drying off, she took me back to the room and went to town. I'm pretty sure FS was on the menu, but I didn't ask for it. She did a quick FBSM, and ended with a CBJ in 69. She wouldn't let me touch greek but DATY and touching was all ok.
We finished and she kept giggling like she was enjoying herself.
I'd go back, but I'm going to try other establishments my next time in town.
Msaunders6969
06-03-12, 08:52
A little while ago I visited 237 (I think it goes by multiple different names) and had a great experience. It's a little more seedy than some of the Philly AMPs, but still enjoyable. I called ahead and made an appt. I rang the doorbell in the back of the building (which is actually a doubledoor, so some privacy was provided from the street). Mamasan opened and said they were full, but to come back in 30 minutes. So I went for a walk and came back. She escorted me to the room (thin walls, low massage table with a giant mirror covering the entire back wall. Loved that part).
A few minutes later, a cute asian gal entered; couldn't have been older than 20. Very bubbly, playful and "giggly". Perfect body, small perky fake tits, rock hard. She undressed me and played a little bit with the important areas before we even started. Then walked me to the TS room. These weren't very private, as they were more like shower stalls with just a curtain providing privacy from the hallway. The girl entered naked and began to wash me down. She did a few body slides and came very close to causing me to enter her during a slide, but kept it kosher.
After the drying off, she took me back to the room and went to town. I'm pretty sure FS was on the menu, but I didn't ask for it. She did a quick FBSM, and ended with a CBJ in 69. She wouldn't let me touch greek but DATY and touching was all ok.
We finished and she kept giggling like she was enjoying herself.
I'd go back, but I'm going to try other establishments my next time in town.What was the damage without the FS?
A reminder that your paying for time and not a menu. Expectations of FS, a massage and a TS are generally expected, but sometimes even if expected, they don't always happen. Think about it, would you rather make $10 / hr or $15 / hr. There was one Philly location that had 30, 45 and 1 hr prices. 2 cups of coffee MAY cost you more.
Doubles cost you two house fees too. Discounts may be offered for overnight sessions, if offered.
HowardTheDuck
06-03-12, 09:54
I think I remember it as $.4.
What was the damage without the FS?
Amp Insane
06-04-12, 21:08
I'm flying through tomorrow with a three hour layover and would like to spend 30 at an AMP. Any help would be great and I can help if anyone is in NC.
Thanks in advance.
I'm flying through tomorrow with a three hour layover and would like to spend 30 at an AMP. Any help would be great and I can help if anyone is in NC.
Thanks in advance.3hr layover.that's tight for an AMP. You'll spend a 1/2hr getting into town.then 1/2 hour getting back w / security. You'll miss your flight.
Might look at the backpage for a girl near the airport. Hop a cab to a local hotel.that might work.
If you want an AMP in the City either Fun City or Pink. Fun City does get backed up but Pink is always accommodating. 1211 race st (I believe) , they advertise in the back of the City Paper, available in every city corner in the boxes. Free.
Best of Luck
Milo
Bad News.The borough of Jenkintown has revoked the occupancy license of Sunshine Spa, I got a feeling this is because of all the uptight people in Jenkintown although the men with the cash will find another place spot for relaxation. It's been there a long time and not busted for a reason, I bet the mayor got his tune ups there.
Jenkintown has a lot of wealthy well established family's. They will not want to travel far for a very discrete stress relief.
http://montgomerynews.com/articles/2012/06/08/glenside_news_globe_times_chronicle/news/doc4fd004f67978f979185269.txt
RudeManiac
06-13-12, 14:30
(this is not a review just a recommendation)
Great place. Probably the most cost efficient for a (HJ) Hand Job, stimulation of the penis using hand and fingers. Hand job. A manual / hand release happy ending. At first I thought I was going to receive "just a massage" until she asked if I wanted a frontal massage, I said yes. She asked me if I wanted a towel I abruptly declined. So she continued to rub until she got to the goods and then she asked if I want her to "take care of that," I said yes, and the rest is history. I will be going back. Her hands were very delicate. I highly recommend this spot.
Here are the ads to check the locations
http://www.phillysuperads.com/massage_Classifieds/C335A492362P1/Asian_and_Swedish_MASSAGE--Grand_Opening--in_PHILA--%28215%29-508-0673_. Aspx.
http://adultsearch.com/pennsylvania/philadelphia/erotic-massage/health-center/6359
This is the old location for the first FC. It is now owned by Jennifer of Blue Moon salad tossing fame. Call ahead for appointment with Sue (267-423-5887). Tell her Marko suggested her.
Be ready for the trip of your life. Full rates. 160 all in. Sue gives a fantastic TS with a more than adequate slide. She also enjoys DATY and, if you are good, she goes out of her way to make you happy. I suspect FS is on the menu but I prefer BBJCIM. This is not a place for the weak of spirit. When Sue gets her game on, she will wear you out between great rimming and her specialty. The rusty trombone.
The location is the last door on the right heading toward Vine from Race. It is a black door 223 1st Floor. You can park in the lot next door for $13. 00 or less.
Certainly a prime Convention Center location for the out of towner. Call first.
'bare
Old Delinquent
06-13-12, 21:34
her specialty. The rusty trombone.OK, SOMEONE has to ask. The "rusty trombone"?
OK, SOMEONE has to ask. The "rusty trombone"?You look it up in the Urban Dictionary like I did if you can't find it in USG's acronyms.
OK, SOMEONE has to ask. The "rusty trombone"?Rusty trombone is a euphemism for a sexual act in which a man stands with his knees and back slightly bent, with feet at least shoulder width apart in order to expose the anus. The other partner typically kneels behind the man and performs anilingus while reaching up beneath the testicles or around the body to manually administer rapid up and down motions of the penis, mimicking the motions of a trombone player. The act is defined primarily by the physical orientation of the partners and the combination of analingus with manual penile stimulation; however, other positions and variations are possible.
Rusty trombone is a euphemism for a sexual act in which a man stands with his knees and back slightly bent, with feet at least shoulder width apart in order to expose the anus. The other partner typically kneels behind the man and performs anilingus while reaching up beneath the testicles or around the body to manually administer rapid up and down motions of the penis, mimicking the motions of a trombone player. The act is defined primarily by the physical orientation of the partners and the combination of analingus with manual penile stimulation; however, other positions and variations are possible.Perhaps something visual will help. Of course you must also be getting your salad tossed at the same time for it to be a true trombone experience. That is where the "rusty" comes onto play. Sort of like the dirty Sanchez.
http://xhamster.com/movies/458278/re.om_behind.html
http://fapdu.com/crazy-wife-pull-back-blowjob
'bare.
Old Delinquent
06-16-12, 11:59
Perhaps something visual will help. Of course you must also be getting your salad tossed at the same time for it to be a true trombone experience. That is where the "rusty" comes onto play. Sort of like the dirty Sanchez.
http://xhamster.com/movies/458278/re.om_behind.html
http://fapdu.com/crazy-wife-pull-back-blowjob
'bare.Aha. Thanks for the explanation AND the visual clarifications. I must say that the woman in the first video had more than a passing resemblance (and sounded similar) to the infamous Snooki for "Jersey Shore".
Ok, I'm just asking. Has anyone ever brought "toys" to an AMP? And what was the reaction?
Ok, I'm just asking. Has anyone ever brought "toys" to an AMP? And what was the reaction?No never thought of it, but what kind of toys.
Don't think they are going to let you shove something in them but then again they might shove it up your ass for a few sheckles.
Not my thing but let me know how it goes.
Ok, I'm just asking. Has anyone ever brought "toys" to an AMP? And what was the reaction?Yes. I almost always have a pocket rocket with me. Many of these girls have not had exposure to toys so it can be fun to teach them. I ring it out and let them see, touch taste and feel it. I wipe it with a couple of alcohol rubs I carry for that purpose. Start slowly with their breasts and nipples. As they begin to get into it, move slowly to the bushy parts and be very gentle. As soon as they feel it near their clit, you will know if she is a player or not. I let them use I to pleasure themselves for the first time so they feel in control.
There is no question, if they like it, you can shove it almost anywhere. Also, don't be shocked if she uses it on your rosebud. She won't shove it in, but, if she knoww what she is doing, she will drive you crazy with it.
Toy can be fun = I do not recommend bringing it our as a surprise. Make it a mutual learning experience. By the way, I often end up "sacrificing" my pocket rocket to the cause.
LuvEmSmall
06-25-12, 07:20
Many a time I have brought toys to an AMP! The girls generally have said no no no, but in the end has been," can I keep it?" I luv the reaction I get when they feel it. I like them to explor it. And when they cum with one you know it.
Has anyone had any seccess for extras with any of these girls? I have seen a few of them, decent massages, but can seem to get anything extra?
http://philadelphia.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-at-your-location-till-1am-by-paige-ava-capri-kassia-anji-madison-ana-kassandra/9464302
All signs seems to say there are other options available but no luck yet?
Thanks!
I always thought she was a legit massage. Ie. No "proper end." If you're in the Lancaster area, I would recommend Whirl-a-Sage.
http://www.spahunters.com/spa/1903/Whirl_A_Sage
Even though it is not outcall. You'll have a choice of attendants, choice of session length and very definitely the conclusion you have in mind. Not a lot of other options in Central PA.I have seen this "knead" provider a few times. Good massage. Good lady. But no extras. Very Proff.
Hey,
I'm in philly every few weeks. 4-5 star hotels. Looking for a fun masseuse I can see regularly, Any recommendations? Will pay for hotness.
Thanks!
Many a time I have brought toys to an AMP! The girls generally have said no no no, but in the end has been," can I keep it?" I luv the reaction I get when they feel it. I like them to explor it. And when they cum with one you know it.Long time lurker, very infrequent poster. I too will admit to bringing toys into the AMPs. Usually it is with a repeat provider, as once they get to know you, they are more open to suggestions. Depending on the girl, there are a number of things that you can bring, from the basic bullets to the more high end insertables. If the girl is going to be in town for a while, she may even keep it on site for future usage, but don't be suprised if the batteries are dead from their 'practicing' with it. Also, stay away from any battery operated toys that have more exotic battery set ups. One girl had me searching for batteries on Radio Shack's website for a month before I could get them delivered to my office.
As always, happy hunting!
Blockhead2
07-01-12, 10:29
Seen sunny for the second time she is great. Into the shower she does the slide and BBBJ. Thn back to the room starts with BBBJ in walks older girl she starts playing with my balls as sunny puts her tits in my face. Older one starts BBBJ then mamasan says something and she leaves. Then sunny jumps on top I explode couldn't hold back anymore it was the best time ever. On the way out I try and find older one but she was busy anyway great time has anyone else had this kind of service here before.
Horn Dog Too
07-07-12, 10:54
Hi Guys, just rttff, and am I to assume the going rate is $.6 at all the AMPs? I'll be in town all day Monday and may be looking for a diversion. I visited one AMP on Ludlow years ago, are they still around and viable? Thanks for the good reports.
Cheers HD2
GutsAndGlory
07-07-12, 15:59
Hi Guys, just rttff, and am I to assume the going rate is $.6 at all the AMPs? I'll be in town all day Monday and may be looking for a diversion. I visited one AMP on Ludlow years ago, are they still around and viable? Thanks for the good reports.
Cheers HD2That rate is accurate, yes.
RyanAnderson
07-08-12, 13:07
Does anyone know if OS therapy in Norristown offers full service?
RyanAnderson
07-08-12, 13:46
Also, has anyone visited this girl? http://philadelphia.backpage.com/BodyRubs/tell-me-what-you-want-23/9815074
Pics seem legit but I googled her number and there are no additional pics so I'm kinda skeptical.
GutsAndGlory
07-08-12, 21:44
Does anyone know if OS therapy in Norristown offers full service?It's definitely a YMMV situation at OS Therapy. I've always left happy, but every provider they've had (including the latest, Mia) , typically "warms up" to FS after a visit or two.
RyanAnderson
07-08-12, 23:41
It's definitely a YMMV situation at OS Therapy. I've always left happy, but every provider they've had (including the latest, Mia) , typically "warms up" to FS after a visit or two.How many girls do they have and who is the best?
RyanAnderson
07-09-12, 00:17
It's definitely a YMMV situation at OS Therapy. I've always left happy, but every provider they've had (including the latest, Mia) , typically "warms up" to FS after a visit or two.Also how much does FS usually cost there?
Ivory Tickler
07-12-12, 20:14
(this is not a review just a recommendation)
Great place. Probably the most cost efficient for a (HJ) Hand Job, stimulation of the penis using hand and fingers. Hand job. A manual / hand release happy ending. At first I thought I was going to receive "just a massage" until she asked if I wanted a frontal massage, I said yes. She asked me if I wanted a towel I abruptly declined. So she continued to rub until she got to the goods and then she asked if I want her to "take care of that," I said yes, and the rest is history. I will be going back. Her hands were very delicate. I highly recommend this spot.
Here are the ads to check the locations.
http://www.phillysuperads.com/massage_Classifieds/C335A492362P1/Asian_and_Swedish_MASSAGE--Grand_Opening--in_PHILA--
%28215%29-508-0673_. Aspx.
http://adultsearch.com/pennsylvania/philadelphia/erotic-massage/health-center/6359What was the total cost for the Massage + HJ?
DrPornDawg
07-16-12, 12:58
It's definitely a YMMV situation at OS Therapy. I've always left happy, but every provider they've had (including the latest, Mia) , typically "warms up" to FS after a visit or two.I had TOY a while back, FS on the first visit and it was awesome!
Kiyakubuke
07-24-12, 19:38
Senior member from Tennessee here. I'll be flying into Philly next week and driving to Allentown. Any good AMPs on that route or a few minutes off?
Senior member from Tennessee here. I'll be flying into Philly next week and driving to Allentown. Any good AMPs on that route or a few minutes off?Both of these AMPs have good reviews on another forum site. I've been to FC before and definitely had a great time. The mamasan there was really accommodating. Hope you enjoy you're visit. BTW both have websites so just google them for their contact info.
Senior member from Tennessee here. I'll be flying into Philly next week and driving to Allentown. Any good AMPs on that route or a few minutes off?If your driving to Allentown from philadelphia airport, should take 95 South to 476 North. 476 will turn into the Northeast Ext of the turnpike. You can hop on 276 East and get off at the Willow Grove exit (2 exits) and head north on 611 for about 2 miles You will find on the right side Healing Hands Day Spa. 658 Easton Road Horsham, PA 19044
Its a good place and not very far out of your way to get to.
Cephlapod Love
07-25-12, 00:11
Healing Hands Day Spa. 658 Easton Road Horsham, PA 19044
Its a good place and not very far out of your way to get to.Ah, what are the menu of "extras" at Healing Hands? I thought LE in lower Bucks was quite active about shutting down spas that provided extras? No personal experience, but have seen a fair number, in the press, that were put out of business.
Ah, what are the menu of "extras" at Healing Hands? I thought LE in lower Bucks was quite active about shutting down spas that provided extras? No personal experience, but have seen a fair number, in the press, that were put out of business.That is true, LE does seem to be active in Bucks, but not so much in Mountgomery. You can find the usual fare there. But like any AMP, YMMV. The rates are normally. 65/1.
Basketball
07-25-12, 09:34
If your driving to Allentown from philadelphia airport, should take 95 South to 476 North. 476 will turn into the Northeast Ext of the turnpike. You can hop on 276 East and get off at the Willow Grove exit (2 exits) and head north on 611 for about 2 miles You will find on the right side Healing Hands Day Spa. 658 Easton Road Horsham, PA 19044
Its a good place and not very far out of your way to get to.Theses choices may be more convenient, considering where he is going but FC and Bella Asian won't be that much out of the way. OTOH, those 2 locations have full menus, with hott girls who provide good service. Knowing what I know, I would drive into the city. With technology as it is today (GPS and mapquest) it should not be a problem navigating the course.
Kiyakubuke
07-25-12, 19:12
Both of these AMPs have good reviews on another forum site. I've been to FC before and definitely had a great time. The mamasan there was really accommodating. Hope you enjoy you're visit. BTW both have websites so just google them for their contact info.I had seen both of these on another site and they got good reviews. Seems like PA has a lot of really good AMPs. Tennessee is a wasteland. Only a few in the entire state (none within 1 hour of nashville) and those constantly getting closed down and even when they are open they are hardly worth the trip. That is what I get for living in the crotch of the bible belt.
Ah, what are the menu of "extras" at Healing Hands? I thought LE in lower Bucks was quite active about shutting down spas that provided extras? No personal experience, but have seen a fair number, in the press, that were put out of business.Just your standard happy ending. A HJ. Nothing else.
Basketball
07-26-12, 07:02
I had seen both of these on another site and they got good reviews. Seems like PA has a lot of really good AMPs. Tennessee is a wasteland. Only a few in the entire state (none within 1 hour of nashville) and those constantly getting closed down and even when they are open they are hardly worth the trip. That is what I get for living in the crotch of the bible belt.A lot of local people may not realize that Philly is one of the top 3 maybe 5 cities in the US for AMP's. The bad one's here are better than the best one's elsewhere. Go down to Florida and pay more, get less, from a over the hill masseuse. Even when Philly is down, it's better than most.
New York may be better, although you pay NY prices, and maybe San Fran. Washington DC use to be good, but don't think it recovered from the East Coast bust that took down CH a couple years ago.
Kiyakubuke
07-26-12, 20:09
A lot of local people may not realize that Philly is one of the top 3 maybe 5 cities in the US for AMP's. The bad one's here are better than the best one's elsewhere. Go down to Florida and pay more, get less, from a over the hill masseuse. Even when Philly is down, it's better than most.
New York may be better, although you pay NY prices, and maybe San Fran. Washington DC use to be good, but don't think it recovered from the East Coast bust that took down CH a couple years ago.It will be a nice change from Nashville. About 10-15 years ago Nashville was decent, then they passed some BS law with a loophole that allowed them to come down hard on them. Now there is nothing and even the ones 40-50 miles away are constantly getting hassled. The only decent one within driving distance got busted so often they finally just gave up. From what I hear, DC is drying up too. I was up there in March and ended up having to get a girl off p411 for $$$.
I lived in Bankok for a few years and got spoiled. Never find pickings like that in the US.
I have also been looking at Aries in Allentown. Didn't see an Allentown thread on here, so I'll ask here if anyone is familiar with it. I'm flying into Philly, but staying in Allentown, so that may be easier for me.
BTW. The Philly board kicks ass. Never got so much info so fast from any other board.
Anybody been to the tremont or sandmeyer places listed on BP?
In two months I'll be in Philly and staying on Dock Street. I'm coming in by train so won't have private transportation and will only be there a couple of nights. Are there any places within walking distance?
Thanks
Amp Forever
07-28-12, 16:08
In two months I'll be in Philly and staying on Dock Street. I'm coming in by train so won't have private transportation and will only be there a couple of nights. Are there any places within walking distance?
ThanksWas a guest in the city of brotherly love myself a little while ago and stayed at the same Dock Street hotel. Fun City Asians (check out their website) was only about a 10 minute walk from the hotel. Great service at going rate. Enjoy. I will when I get back to Philly.
Ola all. I live down south but visit Philly once a month or so. Still searching for a great massage outcall to my hotel. Some success, but no one I call an atf yet. Any recommendations?
Likes: same as anyone else. Younger, in shape, clean, and the $ is not co much an issue. Will pay for quality.
Any thoughts?
Kiyakubuke
07-31-12, 22:13
Was a guest in the city of brotherly love myself a little while ago and stayed at the same Dock Street hotel. Fun City Asians (check out their website) was only about a 10 minute walk from the hotel. Great service at going rate. Enjoy. I will when I get back to Philly.I concur. I went there today. Flew into Philly from nashville and stopped by before I drove up to allentown. Very glad I did. I lived in Bangkok for a while and Fun City Asians is the closest thing I have found in the states. I saw Cory, she was off the charts. Very pretty, killer body and great personality. I plan to visit again on my way back out.
It will be a nice change from Nashville. About 10-15 years ago Nashville was decent, then they passed some BS law with a loophole that allowed them to come down hard on them. Now there is nothing and even the ones 40-50 miles away are constantly getting hassled. The only decent one within driving distance got busted so often they finally just gave up. From what I hear, DC is drying up too. I was up there in March and ended up having to get a girl off p411 for $$$.
I lived in Bankok for a few years and got spoiled. Never find pickings like that in the US.
I have also been looking at Aries in Allentown. Didn't see an Allentown thread on here, so I'll ask here if anyone is familiar with it. I'm flying into Philly, but staying in Allentown, so that may be easier for me.
BTW. The Philly board kicks ass. Never got so much info so fast from any other board.K,
Check out the PA-Other Areas thread for updates on Aries.
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Was a guest in the city of brotherly love myself a little while ago and stayed at the same Dock Street hotel. Fun City Asians (check out their website) was only about a 10 minute walk from the hotel. Great service at going rate. Enjoy. I will when I get back to Philly.Any places take credit cards? Don't like to carry a lot of cash with me.
Slapster
They did at one time. They might now. Bangkok does. There is usually a $10 to $15 extra charge for using a credit card.
IT IS NOT IN YOUR BEST INTEREST to use a credit card.
Basketball
08-03-12, 07:16
Any places take credit cards? Don't like to carry a lot of cash with me.
SlapsterNever leave a paper trail. Stop at a ATM right before entering and get some cash.
MrSunnyHills
08-03-12, 08:27
I've never been in much position to bring in toys. But one time I saw an AMP gal outside of work. She had a nice townhome near the beach. In her bedside drawer, she had 3 toys. I guess she liked collecting them.
Yes. I almost always have a pocket rocket with me. Many of these girls have not had exposure to toys so it can be fun to teach them. I ring it out and let them see, touch taste and feel it. I wipe it with a couple of alcohol rubs I carry for that purpose. Start slowly with their breasts and nipples. As they begin to get into it, move slowly to the bushy parts and be very gentle. As soon as they feel it near their clit, you will know if she is a player or not. I let them use I to pleasure themselves for the first time so they feel in control.
There is no question, if they like it, you can shove it almost anywhere. Also, don't be shocked if she uses it on your rosebud. She won't shove it in, but, if she knoww what she is doing, she will drive you crazy with it.
Toy can be fun = I do not recommend bringing it our as a surprise. Make it a mutual learning experience. By the way, I often end up "sacrificing" my pocket rocket to the cause.
Was a guest in the city of brotherly love myself a little while ago and stayed at the same Dock Street hotel. Fun City Asians (check out their website) was only about a 10 minute walk from the hotel. Great service at going rate. Enjoy. I will when I get back to Philly.Thanks for the info.
Cocknballs
08-03-12, 16:40
I will also vouch for this place. Although I think it's called DaDaDa and not Blue Moon. If that matters. I was visiting a couple weeks ago and decided to try them out. Called and asked if I could meet Sue in about 45 min: "no pwobwem". Get there and was told Sue not working today. The girl who was there was waaaay skinnier than my preference, but I figured WTF. I think her name was June. Or Jung. Or some shit like that. Glad I stayed around. Service was just as LuvumBare said. 160 up front. Very enthusiastic TS which she stripped bare for and after attention to the right places went for some BBJ and ass-rimming. Dried off and back in the room for some teasing, more ass rimming, and the aforementioned rusty trombone. She had me on all fours and would move up for some BB dick sucking in between ass licks. Covered CG, mish, finished doggie. Handed me a water on my way out 160 lighter and happy for it. Would recommend and would return. And as always, YMMV.
This is the old location for the first FC. It is now owned by Jennifer of Blue Moon salad tossing fame. Call ahead for appointment with Sue (267-423-5887). Tell her Marko suggested her.
Be ready for the trip of your life. Full rates. 160 all in. Sue gives a fantastic TS with a more than adequate slide. She also enjoys DATY and, if you are good, she goes out of her way to make you happy. I suspect FS is on the menu but I prefer BBJCIM. This is not a place for the weak of spirit. When Sue gets her game on, she will wear you out between great rimming and her specialty. The rusty trombone.
The location is the last door on the right heading toward Vine from Race. It is a black door 223 1st Floor. You can park in the lot next door for $13. 00 or less.
Certainly a prime Convention Center location for the out of towner. Call first.
'bare
SexGuide3560
08-06-12, 10:16
I went there. 1041 ridge ave
I saw chanel. She was very very good. WOW
In town on business, and needed a good rub & tug. Read the reports, and figured I would give Bella a try. Called and told girl who answered the phone need a strong massage to which she responds "we don't do that". Ok, so I figured we had a communication failure. I kept pushing is this the massage parlor, to which she finally replies "house fee $60". Ok, I'll be there in 10 minutes. I get in, and the same girl who answered the phone brings me up to the room. She is young, and I'm thinking too young to be mamasan. Nice looking girl tall with nice black hair comes in and leads me to the shower. Table shower was nice, then we go back to room. She has a pillow on the table which I move, so I can put my face in the hole on the table where it belongs. I show her my shoulders hurt, and I need a strong massage. She replies massage yes, HJ no? I said massage and yes. She walks out. Storms back in a few minutes later, and I'm laying face down. She touches my shoulder and says massage yes HJ no? I said YES & YES. She again storms out. Ok, I must be an asshole and just tired. I get up and put my clothes on, grab my $60 off the table and start for the door. She was just entering as I'm leaving. She again says massage? And I just keep walking. I get back downstairs, and young girl standing blocking the door. I go to try and push open the door, and she is trying to block it. OK, what the F. I'm no Mr. T, but no small guy either. Finally, I said open the F. Door as you don't want any trouble do you? She says, sorry, sorry and I open the door and storm out.
Maybe just a communication barrier, but WTF? Glad you other guys had a good experience here as I thought I was pretty verse at understanding the Asian community.
My guess is that you did not follow accepted protocol. If you look like LE, that's another red flag.
Your report indicates strongly that you did not follow the accepted protocol and therefore what happened to you, happened.
It's 1 hour, $160, up front, and whatever happens, happens and there is no negotiating for services. You are paying for time, not services AL-a-carte. I only knew of one place that had 30, 45 and 1 hr sessions. Two cups of coffee might have to be negotiated.
If you want 4 hands, prepare to double everything and arrange and schedule before hand and not for your first time.
My guess is that you did not follow accepted protocol. If you look like LE, that's another red flag.
Your report indicates strongly that you did not follow the accepted protocol and therefore what happened to you, happened.
It's 1 hour, $160, up front, and whatever happens, happens and there is no negotiating for services. You are paying for time, not services AL-a-carte. I only knew of one place that had 30, 45 and 1 hr sessions. Two cups of coffee might have to be negotiated.
If you want 4 hands, prepare to double everything and arrange and schedule before hand and not for your first time.Been at this game for a long time my friend, and I know what the protocol / do's and don'ts are. What this place needs, is someone who can speak a word of English! I stand by my posting of annoyance. Good luck to you all.
Jumping Jim
08-10-12, 02:17
Been at this game for a long time my friend, and I know what the protocol / do's and don'ts are. What this place needs, is someone who can speak a word of English! I stand by my posting of annoyance. Good luck to you all.It is a FS place and the fee is $160. I don't know why they bother with the $60 quote over the phone. It is a bit confusing. You can get a light massage and a HJ only for less but they would rather do the FS for the full price.
If you are looking for a rub and tug place you'll find it in the suburbs.
Cephlapod Love
08-10-12, 09:45
Been at this game for a long time my friend, and I know what the protocol / do's and don'ts are. What this place needs, is someone who can speak a word of English! I stand by my posting of annoyance. Good luck to you all.Ah, maybe I'll get bashed for being the Miss Manners in this situation, or maybe I'll take a page from the Dale Carnegie classic. But REALLY? Standing by your annoyance sure appears to be a bit of slam on spazen who tried to help. Unfortunate because if anyone knows the R&T scene it is spazen!
Not to diminish one's annoyance. Fair enough, you had a bad experience and we appreciate the post to warn others. That is why we are here! So thank you for that! I'd be pizzed too if I had the kind of experience you did.
Now all of that said, a suggestion or two. From this perspective (now the third) it appears as though the report could have had a few more details. Sure appears as thought there were a few items that might have helped others understand what actually happened. Missing items Gents looking to help made a few assumptions to fill in the blanks. Did you leave the "tip" out in plain sight as soon as you were disrobed? I wasn't sure as the report didn't mention it, so it could have gone either way. Sometimes the toughest part of posting here is getting enough detail out there.
If one is looking for purely a rub and legit massage for some ailment, then is heading to a FS type place a great idea? Hundreds legit places in the phone book will do that for you. Or look on BP. Or I bet spazen could be a good Yellow Pages...
Then again, if one is visiting Philly and has RTFT, then I am at a loss why anyone heads out to other than Fun City. Yeah, sure. No place is a 100% guarantee, but it seems the odds are much higher of a good experience with a gorgeous young girl at FC than anywhere else. I dunno. I'm just sayin'
Then an a more personal level. OK, one was looking for some help finding a place, had an unfortunate experience and posted. But ah, do you think your chances of finding future help are enhanced by getting all defensive at those that tried to help? Been at this game for a long time my friend, and I know what the protocol / do's and don'ts are. That's the Dale Carnegie bit.
So. Sorry about the bad experience! Thank you again for posting the report. Hope your next time around is a better one! Good LucK!
Cdmanoise, you do make a lot of noise.
Your shoulder (s) hurt and you wanted a massage and no HJ.
Common sense would be to go to a licensed massage therapist.
You went to one of the top AMPs in Philly, that is full service.
You spoke on the phone with Tiffany, who was temporarily filling in as mamasan for Lily, the regular mamasan.
When you asked her over the phone for a hard massage, she replied "We don't do that."
She was accurate.
Still, you went there.
Tiffany normally works at Fun City, as a working girl.
She is fluent in English.
She is beautiful.
That particular day she tried to look plain, hair tight, glasses on face.
She was not interested in working that day since she had mamasan duties.
She is most proficient in the slide, BBBJ and full service.
She is pretty good at massage also.
She is one of the top 3 or 4 most popular current AMP worker in Philly.
The girl that came to see you in the room was Chanel.
She hardly speaks Englsih.
Girls work on tips.
Tips at AMPs are not for massage, but for HJ, BJ or FS.
$60 is house money. Only tips go to girls.
So if you had tipped her in advance in addition to house money, she would have stayed.
How is your ANGER MANAGEMENT?
Lily, Tiffany and York
Alas poor York, I knew him Horatio.
Cdmanoise, you do make a lot of noise.
Your shoulder (s) hurt and you wanted a massage and no HJ.
Common sense would be to go to a licensed massage therapist.
You went to one of the top AMPs in Philly, that is full service.
You spoke on the phone with Tiffany, who was temporarily filling in as mamasan for Lily, the regular mamasan.
When you asked her over the phone for a hard massage, she replied "We don't do that."
She was accurate.
Still, you went there.
Tiffany normally works at Fun City, as a working girl.
She is fluent in English.
She is beautiful.
That particular day she tried to look plain, hair tight, glasses on face.
She was not interested in working that day since she had mamasan duties.
She is most proficient in the slide, BBBJ and full service.
She is pretty good at massage also.
She is one of the top 3 or 4 most popular current AMP worker in Philly.
The girl that came to see you in the room was Chanel.
She hardly speaks Englsih.
Girls work on tips.
Tips at AMPs are not for massage, but for HJ, BJ or FS.
$60 is house money. Only tips go to girls.
So if you had tipped her in advance in addition to house money, she would have stayed.
How is your ANGER MANAGEMENT?
Lily, Tiffany and YorkMy Anger Management is very well refined. Hence why when the door was blocked I maintained my composure rather than swing. Learned a long time ago in the Marine Core to evaluate before shooting unless in immediate danger.
Ah, maybe I'll get bashed for being the Miss Manners in this situation, or maybe I'll take a page from the Dale Carnegie classic. But REALLY? Standing by your annoyance sure appears to be a bit of slam on spazen who tried to help. Unfortunate because if anyone knows the R&T scene it is spazen!
Not to diminish one's annoyance. Fair enough, you had a bad experience and we appreciate the post to warn others. That is why we are here! So thank you for that! I'd be pizzed too if I had the kind of experience you did.
Now all of that said, a suggestion or two. From this perspective (now the third) it appears as though the report could have had a few more details. Sure appears as thought there were a few items that might have helped others understand what actually happened. Missing items Gents looking to help made a few assumptions to fill in the blanks. Did you leave the "tip" out in plain sight as soon as you were disrobed? I wasn't sure as the report didn't mention it, so it could have gone either way. Sometimes the toughest part of posting here is getting enough detail out there.
If one is looking for purely a rub and legit massage for some ailment, then is heading to a FS type place a great idea? Hundreds legit places in the phone book will do that for you. Or look on BP. Or I bet spazen could be a good Yellow Pages.
Then again, if one is visiting Philly and has RTFT, then I am at a loss why anyone heads out to other than Fun City. Yeah, sure. No place is a 100% guarantee, but it seems the odds are much higher of a good experience with a gorgeous young girl at FC than anywhere else. I dunno. I'm just sayin'
Then an a more personal level. OK, one was looking for some help finding a place, had an unfortunate experience and posted. But ah, do you think your chances of finding future help are enhanced by getting all defensive at those that tried to help? Been at this game for a long time my friend, and I know what the protocol / do's and don'ts are. That's the Dale Carnegie bit.
So. Sorry about the bad experience! Thank you again for posting the report. Hope your next time around is a better one! Good LucK!All great points. I guess lesson learned. Next time do a bit more homework first. Having visited many cities, most are not as open FS as those in Philly I guess hence my miss set expectation. I thought I was pretty clear on the phone I needed my shoulders worked, and got caught off guard by being told "we don't do that here". In my experience, as stated above most cities don't run AMP based solely on FS expectation or wouldbe shut down in the blink of an eye. Didn't know Philly was more liberal.
I guess, better communication on both sides would have helped. Unfortunately, attendant only had an English vocabulary of 6 words (back rub yes H J no?) or we likely could have avoided any confusion. What really threw me, is they told me to place the house fee on the table. Every other AMP I have visited you pay the house fee up front upon entry and tips are discussed in the room. Holds true for Charlotte, NJ, NY, Orlando etc.
Regarding being defensive, I thought that was the polite response. Have seen many others on this board, who go off and could do with a tune up but that's just my perspective and where I come from.
It's 1 hour, $160, up front, and whatever happens, happens and there is no negotiating for services.That's absolute nonsense, and I wish you wouldn't drop this bull on unsuspecting readers with such incredible certainty. The fee is $60 an hour, the rest is up to you and the masseuse. $160? Upfront? You got to be paid by these places to post this ridiculous bs. Nothing (other than the house fee) is due upfront. They do expect your requesting extras and tipping for them, but that doesn't mean you're obligated to request FS. What you ask for is your business (and so are the tips - discuss and agree; nothing is automatically due, to say nothing about "upfront").
That said, it is true that a lot (most?) punters go there for FS. And it's also true that massage isn't what keeps these places in business . I don't know what happened to Cdmanoise, but my guess is he's suffered a communications failure somewhere along the line. From his report I can't figure what it was. The good idea would be first to read the forum here before going in, and second (I'm going on a limb here as I'm not sure) to talk to mamasan. And if what he wanted was massage (with no extras), um..., an AMP is a very insuitable place to go. For well-done competent massage you find a licensed massage therapist. Again, from what Cdmanoise reported, it's unclear what the problem was. And it could be anything, but once again, there's no such thing as a "FS place" (FS being somehow obligatory - there are, naturally, FS places in the sense that FS is availabe, if requested) or "$160 upfront" (even if that is what takes place there a lot of times).
You are paying for time, not servicesThat's just more categorically stated bs. How do you know all of this, may I ask? This is absolutely not true. Come to think of it, didn't we already discuss this here? I had on multiple occasions been give a "menu" - with services, not time in it. The time is the hour (or whatever it is) you paid your house fee for, and the fee is $60.
JGgarth:
I think now Cdmanoise understands that it's different in Philly.
OK, the places I go, I know it's a FS place up front. It's illegal to pay for sex, THEREFORE negotiations for specific sex acts are NOT available. Period. Now there was ONE place that had 30 min. 45 min and 60 minute sessions and charged accordingly. No al'a'carte options. Now just suppose your the masseuse, I would assume that you would rather work at the same hourly rate and that's the premise here. Somewhere I read a thread on just that. I Philly, FS and a Table shower is expected for $1. 6 and that appears to be true expectations for both parties. Sometimes, I get pissed when it's not the full hour. There are some providers that practice,"once you have your 1 cup of coffee, out the door you go. Second cups may have to negotiated. I have known some people who have not partaken in a table shower, but it was known that they showered beforehand.
There are the rare, out the door in 30 min and the rare 2. 5 hr sessions with no extra costs involved. Then there are the double showers and the light BDSM, spanking or role-play sessions and even supplied toys by the house. You can get your hair shampooed too. Lot's of things are possible. Mamasan may bang on the door in exact 1 hour too. The second shower is usually brief and independent and not a table shower. And don't forget there is the shower from mamasan or someone else other than the provider. Occaisonally, there is a switch of providers. Sometimes you get the VIP room. Sometimes you reserve it. 90% of the time the massage sucks.
I can count on one hand the number of times I paid the house fee to the mamasan an the tip later. Occasionally, $ were not accepted until if handed directly. That exchange must be indirect for some. You know, the "white envelope thing" that's practiced by escorts, but in this case you don't have to use the envelope. Usually, the $ disappear while your undressing.
If for some reason, I can't perform do I get some money back? No. Have provider's upselled, yes. One provider did that at CH3. You bring those issues up with mamasan. If the session is short, you bring it up with mamasan and that's when I found out about the time rates.
In the non-AMP scene, I have negotiated.
There are at least two rules. 1) Don't talk about cost vs. Service (This rule can sometimes be broken depending on circumstances) 2) Only house fee can be exchanged directly (this rule can be broken as well). For a newbie (new mamasan or new provider) , those rules are mandatory.
I'm unusual, I get pleasure when others get pleasure and when I'm up to it, I give reverse massages. Occaisionally, I get, maybe I should pay you? Making a girl have an "O" feels good to me, but it wears out the provider. So, the provider, would rather not have one. Yes, I have been told to stop making me have an "O". That was unusual because all it took was a "voice command".10 was too many.
Moon Spa on Sansom advertises as "Luxurious", hardly. The place is a dump, rather dirty but delivers the goods if you don't mind a fat girl (Young was there this week). She is mid 30's and aimed to please but was so fat it was hard to be aroused. BBBJ and FS.
Fun City Asians on S. 3rd had Cindy on tap, about 30, pretty face, good rack but body is a little flabby (looks like fat after having a kid). Very pleasing to look at but too many complaints, don't suck my nipples too hard, my pussy hurts don't lick it too hard, etc. You other mongers must have worn this cute girl out. Good BBBJ and, after all the complaints, she took a good pounding in all positions like a champ. If the pussy didn't hurt before it did after.
The best experience this monger had was at the place on Ranstead, drew a very pretty early 30's gal, Lucy, hot pink bikini, pulled me by the cock back to the room after the table shower so I knew I was in for a good time. She's got a nice body and great attitude. BBBJ, no limits, went around the clock in the positions, she came with DATY and riding cowgirl. Not a clock watcher. She was the only one worth repeating. Second visit was even better, soapy full body contact starting in the table shower. She's a keeper. There were a couple of other decent looking gals there as well but Lucy is the pick of the litter.
All were K-girls. 60 for the house and 100 for the girl.
America862
08-25-12, 11:12
I met her. Tiffny.
She's hottie. I have excellent experince.
Moon Spa on Sansom advertises as "Luxurious", hardly.LOL, Oh well. Not really Luxurious, eh? Just like the portraits they use for their ads, not real.
The best experience this monger had was at the place on Ranstead, drew a very pretty early 30's gal,Wow, that's very unexpected. In my experience, it's a nice place but with the older girls. Something must have changed. I got to revisit. Haven't been there in years.
JGgarth:
I think now Cdmanoise understands that it's different in Philly.
OK, the places I go, I know it's a FS place up front. It's illegal to pay for sex, THEREFORE negotiations for specific sex acts are NOT available. Period.Just cause you say "period" doesn't make it true. I have nothing to add to what I had said earler. And once again. You posted now a whole book of legislation, all of it based apparently on your saying "period". How do you know all these things? The strangest thing is that I've known you (well, the poster by your name) for years, on this and other forums, and you usually posted good messages. What happened? Did you eat something, or have they started giving out free ones in exchange for shilling on the net? Come on.
I do have a physical medical reason that impairs thinking depending on a specific trigger.
Now with that out of the way.
There are protocols in place for a reason and they are designed for protection. Let's take the three "scenes" and a FIRST TIME visit.
Streetwalker. The essential piece of the protocol is for the girl to get in the car.
Escort. The essential piece of the protocol is to place the donation in a plain envelope in the designated area.
AMP . Place the donation on the table.
Negotiations for "specific services" can then only be attempted if you have been seen at least once by the provider except possibly with the streetwalker. Having the mamsan recognize you is not considered a "First time".
But don't go into an AMP for the first time and say: "How about an HJ for $50? Don't ask an escort "What are your charges for Greek?" on the first visit. That's the point I wanted to make. Paying for sex is illegal in MOST of the US. Paying for time and companionship isn't."First time" has a different meaning for an AMP. Recognized by the mamasan is equivalent to passing the first time test.
If the place isn't an AMP, the provider could easily say,"You payed too much". If you placed to little on the table, the answer might be "It's $160".
It's a good idea to not have a paper trail and minimize the possibility of info being recorded.
Somewhere, some place there is a document entitled something like "Rules for Mongering". I could not find it. Not sure if it is in this forum.
Add to my last comment:
Do you pay for sex? I don't. I go for a massage at an AMP. Whatever happens between consenting adults, happens.
Cephlapod Love
08-28-12, 10:22
Somewhere, some place there is a document entitled something like "Rules for Mongering". I could not find it. Not sure if it is in this forum.Yeah, if one looks in the upper left corner of every USASG page, locate the "button" labeled "Front Page". Click on that. In the far left column of that page. In the "fine" print. Locate the tag "22 Rules for Street Mongering!"
A picture is worth a thousand words.
195640
Add to my last comment:
Do you pay for sex? I don't. I go for a massage at an AMP. Whatever happens between consenting adults, happens.Why are we trying so hard to play dumb? The same old " I don't pay for sex, I pay for : taking pics / massages / company / table shower, etc " do we really believe that the LEO's reading this and other forums are fooled by this? Do we really believe they don't know how things work in the oldest profession? Are we so dumb that we can believe saying this gives us plausible deniability?
Let me say this : I PAY FOR SEX AND SO DO YOU! I can go to the nearest police station and scream to the top of my lungs "I PAY FOR SEX!" and the only thing they can get me for is disorderly conduct (and making a fool of myself maybe) unless they have hard evidence of you actually paying an "x" amount of money to an "x" person to perform an"x" sex act they don't have a case and they know it, so only if they catch you in the act you need to get on the defense, keeping your mouth shut until you see a lawyer works better than saying you only paid for "x" excuse, and anything I write online in a public forum is just my personal opinion protected by the First amendment, LEO have to prove that any illegal activity actually happened, the burden of proof is on them.
Rant Off!
Why are we trying so hard to play dumb? The same old " I don't pay for sex, I pay for : taking pics / massages / company / table shower, etc " do we really believe that the LEO's reading this and other forums are fooled by this? Do we really believe they don't know how things work in the oldest profession? Are we so dumb that we can believe saying this gives us plausible deniability?
Let me say this : I PAY FOR SEX AND SO DO YOU! I can go to the nearest police station and scream to the top of my lungs "I PAY FOR SEX!" and the only thing they can get me for is disorderly conduct (and making a fool of myself maybe) unless they have hard evidence of you actually paying an "x" amount of money to an "x" person to perform an"x" sex act they don't have a case and they know it, so only if they catch you in the act you need to get on the defense, keeping your mouth shut until you see a lawyer Works better than saying you only paid for "x" excuse, and anything I write online in a public forum is just my personal opinion protected by the First amendment, LEO have to prove that any illegal activity actually happened, the burden of proof is on them.
Rant Off!This is not a rant.
But! I would suggest that you go back and read what you wrote. (I have taken the liberty of putting in bold print that portion of your post I think you should reconsider.) In essence haven't you just admitted to committing a crime? If you were ever investigated and proven to be the person behind the user name Lemmesee, could the statement you made about paying for sex be used against you? I don't know. I am not a lawyer.
Ok! Ok! Ok! I agree! Nothing like that is likely to happen to Lemmesee. But! I'm CookyJar. I am way more visible and a much wider known target than Lemmesee. I have been doing this for more than five years, posted thousands of pictures, made hundreds of personal contacts and on the avenue I am the most visible member of the Philadelphia forum (IMHO).
To be honest, I don't know who reads / follows the USASexGuide Fourm. As you so wisely pointed out, I would be a fool to assume that local law enforcement, working in the largest red light district in the tri-state area, does not know what is going on. And! Since one out of every three girls working the avenue knows of this site and the infamous CookyJar; would not I be a fool to assume that LE has not heard of CookyJar.
I cannot read tarot cards or tell the future. Hopefully I am protected by the anonymity of my user name and the internet. But! God forbid, if I am ever stopped and harassed by LE, taken in for investigation and associated with this site, I hope that my attorney is grateful for the fact that there is no admission to a crime by me anywhere. I would hate to be standing with my lawyer in front of a judge proclaiming my innocents only to have some junior district attorney pull up on his IPad a quote by me bragging, on this website, about the commission of a crime. This would never happen to me because I don't pay for sex. That would be illegal.
Speaking only for myself, my denial is not made to anyone in particular. I am stating to anyone it may concern now or in the future, I do not pay for sex. I am not promoting prostitution. I do not pay for sex. I am an artist. I sometimes use female models. That is about all that I am willing to say on the subject.
I am not trying to fool anyone. I am trying to protect myself from the probabilities. Just as you have suggested, if I am stopped; I will keep my mouth shut knowing that I am innocent and that there is no evidence or admission of guilt anywhere.
CookyJar
I do have a physical medical reason that impairs thinking depending on a specific trigger.Sorry to hear of this, hopefully you'll get better.
There are protocols in place for a reason and they are designed for protection. Let's take the three "scenes" and a FIRST TIME visit.
AMP. Place the donation on the table.You're legislating again, and I still have no idea where all this legislation comes from. But I'll give up at this point, cause I'd have to repeat myself ad nauseam. I'll only add that on a number of occasions, I walked in, was whisked into a room, paid the house fee, was given TS and massage and then asked "what else do you want"? To which I replied,"what do you have?", whereat I was given, cautiously, a menu of options with prices. No, I didn't know the provider from the past, it was our first meeting. No, I didn't put the max donation on the table (though lately it is what I do. But that doesn't make it a rule). No, no one told me, it's an hour for full rate no matter what. I never thought it's any different from visiting a restaurant: you come in; it is assumed you want to eat; you are given a menu; you're free to pick anything on it; you're given what you've ordered and left in peace to eat it. No one tells you you must order the most expensive item on the menu. Same thing here.
In essence haven't you just admitted to committing a crime? If you were ever investigated and proven to be the person behind the user name Lemmesee, could the statement you made about paying for sex be used against you? I don't know. I am not a lawyer.Neither am I, but: how is LMS so important that anyone would bother pulling him from behind his online nickname? And even if they did, what's to prevent him from saying, well, none of it is true, I was drunk, I was trolling, I was trying to get a rise out of CookieJar, I was trying to impress me mates there, etc. Come on. Our most important safeguard consists in being of abso-freakin-lutely no interest to anyone. Now, if we were bin Laden, that would be different! And they'd find a way to shoot us dead even if we werent massage addicts. We're mostly good cause we're a no one. Spitzer got hauled out in the sun though, cause he's a someone (who pissed a lot of people).
… what's to prevent him from saying, well, none of it is true, I was drunk, I was trolling, I was trying to get a rise out of CookieJar, I was trying to impress me mates there, etc.Hmmm! Has this ever worked for you before? Denial after the fact. I will have to try that the next time I am in court. My bad your judgeship! I was drunk, I didn't mean it. I was only playing. Just fooling around with my buddies. (Did you forget that the reason you were pickup in the first place was because you had a known prostitute setting next to you in your car.)
In your case; pay the fine.
…Neither am I, but: how is LMS so important that anyone would bother pulling him from behind his online nickname?I am no Lawyer. I am not LE. I have no idea why LE does what they do. I have no idea why LE might be interested in Lemmesee. I have no idea why the system chooses to go after prostitutes and their johns. But! They do! Why do they put the pictures of alleged johns in the news before they are properly charged or convicted? To humiliate them? To embarrass them? To discourage others? I don't know. I don't know why they would be after me other than the fact that my presence is so widely established. And, I don't know why they would be after Lemmesee, but, rumor has it that he is a rich businessman and former politician currently running for a major political position, hiding behind a username.
I do know that LE should not be interested in me because; I do not pay for sex. I am not a john, I'm an artist. I do not promote prostitution. I hope everyone understands that soliciting for sex is bad and illegal.
… Now, if we were bin Laden, that would be different! And they'd find a way to shoot us dead even if we werent massage addicts. We're mostly good cause we're a no one. Spitzer got hauled out in the sun though, cause he's a someone (who pissed a lot of people).If LE monitors this site, who do you think would be the biggest blip on their radar Bin Laden, Spitzer or CookyJar? On the streets, whose name do you think the average beat cop has heard the most, Lemmesee, JGarth or CookyJar? I have two choices as I see it, stop or be careful. I choose to be careful.
I know it's my fault. I should post less. Stop posting pictures. Lower my profile. What's done is done. I totally agree with you that this is never likely to happen. But! Better safe than sorry.
CookyJar
Cephlapod Love
08-31-12, 11:55
If LE monitors this site, who do you think would be the biggest blip on their radar Bin Laden, Spitzer or CookyJar? On the streets, whose name do you think the average beat cop has heard the most, Lemmesee, JGarth or CookyJar? I have two choices as I see it, stop or be careful. I choose to be careful.
I know it's my fault. I should post less. Stop posting pictures. Lower my profile. What's done is done. I totally agree with you that this is never likely to happen. But! Better safe than sorry.
CookyJarMust be that LE has no interest in taking you down. Why would they? What would they accomplish? To find you would require some extra efforts beyond normal beat cop stuff. And how would that be justified for a misdemeanor ticket? As long as one isn't breaking any laws, harming any girls or dating under-aged skirt, can't see why LE would target you?
Oh sure, perhaps some Vice Cop gets a hard-on or decides he wants the feather in his cap to bag the famous CJ? Anything is possible, I guess.
But as a buddy with former LE and current court experience reminds me. If LE wants to find you, they will.
The fact that they haven't tagged you, perhaps means they have more pressing issues?
Good luck & stay safe!
America862
08-31-12, 13:28
I met terra.
She `s very pretty and got a nice body. Great msg. She`s very enjoyble st. I had very great time.
....Why would they? What would they accomplish?
Just doing their job. It is part of their job, isn't it. (What goes down on the avenue has to be of major importance to Philadelphia Vice.)
...To find you would require some extra efforts beyond normal beat cop stuff. And how would that be justified for a misdemeanor ticket? As long as one isn't breaking any laws, harming any girls or dating under-aged skirt, can't see why LE would target you?
Oh sure, perhaps some Vice Cop gets a hard-on or decides he wants the feather in his cap to bag the famous CJ? Anything is possible, I guess.
But as a buddy with former LE and current court experience reminds me. If LE wants to find you, they will.
The fact that they haven't tagged you, perhaps means they have more pressing issues?
Good luck & stay safe!
Once again, I totally agree, it's not likely. But stranger things have happened.
I doubt if there's a picture of me hanging on bulletin boards. Does Vice have me on their radar? I don't know. I doubt if they are out actively looking for me. Am I being paranoid? Maybe. There is no harm in being safe, is there?
CookyJar
...The fact that they haven't tagged you, perhaps means they have more pressing issues?
Good luck & stay safe!If I am ever stopped during a sting or regular pickup and taken to the round house; I have to consider the possibility of being connected with this site. That was my original point.
CookyJar
Ok! Ok! Ok! I agree! Nothing like that is likely to happen to Lemmesee. But! I'm CookyJar. I am way more visible and a much wider known target than Lemmesee. I have been doing this for more than five years, posted thousands of pictures, made hundreds of personal contacts and on the avenue I am the most visible member of the Philadelphia forum (IMHO).
To be honest, I don't know who reads / follows the USASexGuide Fourm. As you so wisely pointed out, I would be a fool to assume that local law enforcement, working in the largest red light district in the tri-state area, does not know what is going on. And! Since one out of every three girls working the avenue knows of this site and the infamous CookyJar; would not I be a fool to assume that LE has not heard of CookyJar.
I am not trying to fool anyone. I am trying to protect myself from the probabilities. Just as you have suggested, if I am stopped; I will keep my mouth shut knowing that I am innocent and that there is no evidence or admission of guilt anywhere.
CookyJarI will give you one point, a very valid point, CookyJar, you stand out among this crowd and most likely any LEO worth his salt in those areas knows about a guy named CookyJar, just as they should have know about a guy named SuperEloquent and we all know what happened : LEO didn't get Super, another monger did, we should be more weary about a monger with a bone to pick than the average LEO, who after all is human like all of us (I would like to believe he is like all of us) and looks for the path of least resistance, will take a case if it falls on his lap but dedicating a lot of effort looking for a single guy is too much of a hassle, unless they want you for some very specific reason and we all know you are a good guy at heart, so no too much to worry about, right?
Lets watch our six, be careful around there and all but on those wild places we like to go play at there is a lot of dangers everywhere and LEO may not be the worst one, we risk life and limb in here!
Why are we trying so hard to play dumb? The same old " I don't pay for sex, I pay for : taking pics / massages / company / table shower, etc " do we really believe that the LEO's reading this and other forums are fooled by this? Do we really believe they don't know how things work in the oldest profession? Are we so dumb that we can believe saying this gives us plausible deniability?
Let me say this : I PAY FOR SEX AND SO DO YOU! I can go to the nearest police station and scream to the top of my lungs "I PAY FOR SEX!" and the only thing they can get me for is disorderly conduct (and making a fool of myself maybe) unless they have hard evidence of you actually paying an "x" amount of money to an "x" person to perform an"x" sex act they don't have a case and they know it, so only if they catch you in the act you need to get on the defense, keeping your mouth shut until you see a lawyer works better than saying you only paid for "x" excuse, and anything I write online in a public forum is just my personal opinion protected by the First amendment, LEO have to prove that any illegal activity actually happened, the burden of proof is on them.
Rant Off!As to paying for sex- when will le begin mass roundups of married men? We all "pay for sex" in one way or the other- it is human nature-man provides, woman provides in return. Whether it was bringing home a dead woolly mammoth back in the day, new car and big mortgage now or just flinging cash for something straight up. Not a whole lot of diff.
Chuck Marvel
09-02-12, 18:36
As to paeyet thing for sex- when will le begin mass roundups of married men? We all "pay for sex" in one way or the other- it is human nature-man provides, woman provides in return. Whether it was bringing home a dead woolly mammoth back in the day, new car and big mortgage now or just flinging cash for something straight up. Not a whole lot of diff.Gentlemen and ladies (?) , my understanding is that Leo does troll some of these sites, but it is to look for evidence of human trafficking and under-age exploitation. So folks unless you admit under oath in a court of law that you paid for it, no other comments that you say or write matter. If you've ever been in a locker room or a fraternity house you know that half of what's said is BS! Leo can't even bust providers for what they say on the sites. That why they have to actually meet providers and get them"on the record" requesting money for sex. So keep posting and stop fretting!
Cephlapod Love
09-03-12, 23:05
Gentlemen and ladies (?) , my understanding is that Leo does troll some of these sites, but it is to look for evidence of human trafficking and under-age exploitation. So folks unless you admit under oath in a court of law that you paid for it, no other comments that you say or write matter. If you've ever been in a locker room or a fraternity house you know that half of what's said is BS! Leo can't even bust providers for what they say on the sites. That why they have to actually meet providers and get them"on the record" requesting money for sex. So keep posting and stop fretting!Good Point Chuck! The "crime" of solicitation works out to be a misdemeanor offense, if I understand things correctly. Allocation of manpower / resources demands some level of efficiency and thus spending hours trying to track down an individual monger, likely isn't cost effective and thus low probability. That is why stings are so infrequent (costly) and they need to be designed to capture a large number of offenders to justify the manpower.
So your point is that LE trolling sites like this would be to look for signs of the felony offenses.or ones where they could get the most bang for their buck. That makes sense.
Interesting legal theory about using what one posts on a website as "evidence." You are right, probably would not hold up in court. But hey, the problem is that most dudes, when collared by LEO spill their guts when interviewed by a skilled officer. So IF LEO could make a direct connection to a monger and his posts, and use that as leverage, I suspect 9 times out of 10 the monger is going to admit to something and convict himself. THEN to avoid the embarrassment and cost of a trial, he'll plead out to something else.
But don't think one has to be seen or heard by LEO to be arrested or charged with solicitation. It ain't true. Know for a fact of a monger who got nicked picking up a regular girl and charged, is spite of zero conversation, no talk of money and no hearing (wire) by the girl. He still got charged.
Point is. Always "be about your business" when in SW areas and know your rights and how to deal with Leo when / if approached.
Now as far as CJ goes, if I understand the one of the issues at hand, part of the threat he faces is from outside LE. Just like some dude took it on himself to out SE, it sounds like someone could have decided to target others on this forum. Who knows what vigilante group might be out there? If I understand recent events, that group PJ that was on Dateline, went after some dude who was just cheating on his wife.
Interesting discussion here.
Good Point Chuck! The "crime" of solicitation works out to be a misdemeanor offense,.
I agree, "Good Points."
I understand what everyone is saying. It's not likely to happen.
Believe me, my ego is not so large as to believe LE is interested in singling me out. My concern is being picked-up during a sting or normal operating.
I am not a lawyer. It sounds as if you guys know what you're talking about. Perhaps you do know. What's the different between solicitation and promoting prostitution? I understand that what's said here cannot be used to being charges. You cannot be arrested because of what's said in this forum. My question is can what's said here be used as evidence of intent.
Okay! Let me put it another way. If a monger is picked up during a sting or some normal everyday police actions and charged with solicitation or promoting prostitution; would it help or hinder him if the states attorney had evidence of him bragging, in a locker room, about how much he pays for sex? (What if the monger has posted thousands of photographs along with his admission? Can the posting of pictures of known prostitutes be used to suggest that a monger illegally promotes prostitution. Is the promotion of prostitution a crime?)
No matter how unlikely, could it happen? Could a monger's chances be hampered by a pre-admission of guilt? Similarly, I would not want a record of my saying, '"I going to kill that CookyJar when I find him," available on the day after CookyJar is found died in an alley.
As I have said, many times, I am not a lawyer and I don't pay for sex and I am not promoting paying for sex. I am a amateur photographer.
CookyJar
SexGuide3560
09-04-12, 16:16
Tasha is so hot.
Very sexy sexy.
Cephlapod Love
09-04-12, 18:34
I am not a lawyer. It sounds as if you guys know what you're talking about. Perhaps you do know. What's the different between solicitation and promoting prostitution?Always start with a source document. Ie the law and definitions.
http://law.onecle.com/pennsylvania/crimes-and-offenses/00.059.002.000.html
THEN, the nuance is that over time cases get decided by judges that add flavor and definition to things: Another layer that is NOT written down by the legislature in black & white, but does become, defacto "law" or the way the law is applied. For this one needs to find a competent attorney who practices in this field, has kept up on the changes made,"case law" by judicial rulings, and who can evaluate the specific facts to each person's individual case. Then there is a fine line between offering opinion and legal advice with specific guidelines for attorneys as to how and when they can ethically offer such advice. Opinions on message boards should not be taken as specific legal advice, one should consult a licensed attorney.
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Here is the cited info relevant to the hobby. See paragraphs b (promoting) and e (patronizing)
§ 5902. Prostitution and related offenses.
(a) Prostitution-A person is guilty of prostitution if he.
Or she:
(1) is an inmate of a house of prostitution or otherwise.
Engages in sexual activity as a business; or.
(2) loiters in or within view of any public place for.
The purpose of being hired to engage in sexual activity.
(a. 1) Grading of offenses under subsection (a). An offense.
Under subsection (a) constitutes a:
(1) Misdemeanor of the third degree when the offense is.
A first or second offense.
(2) Misdemeanor of the second degree when the offense is.
A third offense.
(3) Misdemeanor of the first degree when the offense is.
A fourth or subsequent offense.
(4) Felony of the third degree if the person who.
Committed the offense knew that he or she was human.
Immunodeficiency virus (HIV) positive or manifesting acquired.
Immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS).
(b) Promoting prostitution. -A person who knowingly promotes.
Prostitution of another commits a misdemeanor or felony as.
Provided in subsection (see) of this section. The following acts.
Shall, without limitation of the foregoing, constitute promoting.
Prostitution:
(1) owning, controlling, managing, supervising or.
Otherwise keeping, alone or in association with others, a.
House of prostitution or a prostitution business;
(2) procuring an inmate for a house of prostitution or a.
Place in a house of prostitution for one who would be an.
Inmate;
(3) encouraging, inducing, or otherwise intentionally.
Causing another to become or remain a prostitute;
(4) soliciting a person to patronize a prostitute;
(5) procuring a prostitute for a patron;
(6) transporting a person into or within this.
Commonwealth with intent to promote the engaging in.
Prostitution by that person, or procuring or paying for.
Transportation with that intent;
(7) leasing or otherwise permitting a place controlled.
By the actor, alone or in association with others, to be.
Regularly used for prostitution or the promotion of.
Prostitution, or failure to make reasonable effort to abate.
Such use by ejecting the tenant, notifying law enforcement.
Authorities, or other legally available means; or.
(8) soliciting, receiving, or agreeing to receive any.
Benefit for doing or agreeing to do anything forbidden by.
This subsection.
(c) Grading of offenses under subsection (b).
(1) An offense under subsection (be) constitutes a felony.
Of the third degree if:
(I) the offense falls within paragraphs (be) 1) ,
(be) 2) or (be) 3) ;
(ii) the actor compels another to engage in or.
Promote prostitution;
(iii) the actor promotes prostitution of a child.
Under the age of 16 years, whether or not he is aware of.
The age of the child;
(iv) the actor promotes prostitution of his spouse,
Child, ward or any person for whose care, protection or.
Support he is responsible; or.
(v) the person knowingly promoted prostitution of.
Another who was HIV positive or infected with the AIDS.
Virus.
(2) Otherwise the offense is a misdemeanor of the second.
Degree.
(d) Living off prostitutes . A person, other than the.
Prostitute or the prostitute's minor child or other legal.
Dependent incapable of self-support, who is knowingly supported.
In whole or substantial part by the proceeds of prostitution is.
Promoting prostitution in violation of subsection (be) of this.
Section.
(e) Patronizing prostitutes. -A person commits the offense.
Of patronizing prostitutes if that person hires a prostitute or.
Any other person to engage in sexual activity with him or her or.
If that person enters or remains in a house of prostitution for.
The purpose of engaging in sexual activity.
(e. 1) Grading of offenses under subsection (e). An offense.
Under subsection (e) constitutes a:
(1) Misdemeanor of the third degree when the offense is.
A first or second offense.
(2) Misdemeanor of the second degree when the offense is.
A third offense.
(3) Misdemeanor of the first degree when the offense is.
A fourth or subsequent offense.
(4) Felony of the third degree if the person who.
Committed the offense knew that he or she was human.
Immunodeficiency virus (HIV) positive or manifesting acquired.
Immune deficiency syndrome (AIDS).
(e. 2) Publication of sentencing order . A court imposing a.
Sentence for a second or subsequent offense committed under.
Subsection (e) shall publish the sentencing order in a newspaper.
Of general circulation in the judicial district in which the.
Court sits, and the court costs imposed on the person sentenced.
Shall include the cost of publishing the sentencing order.
(f) Definitions-As used in this section the following.
Words and phrases shall have the meanings given to them in this.
Subsection:
"House of prostitution." Any place where prostitution or.
Promotion of prostitution is regularly carried on by one person.
Under the control, management or supervision of another.
"Inmate." A person who engages in prostitution in or through.
The agency of a house of prostitution.
"Public place." Any place to which the public or any.
Substantial group thereof has access.
"Sexual activity." Includes homosexual and other deviate.
Sexual relations.
Old Delinquent
09-04-12, 21:13
Always start with a source document. Ie the law and definitions.
"Sexual activity." Includes homosexual and other deviate.
Sexual relations. [/i]Wow. Does anyone realize that, under current federal and state non-discrimination statutes, the wording of that last line alone could get this entire law voided?
Please go back and read Lemmesee's original question.
Why are we trying so hard to play dumb? The same old " I don't pay for sex, I pay for : taking pics / massages / company / table shower, etc " do we really believe that the LEO's reading this and other forums are fooled by this? Do we really believe they don't know how things work in the oldest profession? Are we so dumb that we can believe saying this gives us plausible deniability?
Rant Off!My reply to Lemmesee's question was meant to be a justification for my own actions. I wanted it known that I don't pay for sex and I am not promoting prostitution or any illegal act when I post in this forum. I tried to point out that my situation might be a little different from others who post in this forum.
...Opinions on message boards should not be taken as specific legal advice, one should consult a licensed attorney.
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Here is the cited info relevant to the Promoting Prostitution:
(b) Promoting prostitution. -A person who knowingly promotes.
Prostitution of another commits a misdemeanor or felony as.
Provided in subsection (see) of this section. The following acts.
Shall, without limitation of the foregoing, constitute promoting.
Prostitution:
(1) owning, controlling, managing, supervising or otherwise keeping, alone or in association with others, a House of prostitution or a prostitution business;
(2) procuring an inmate for a house of prostitution or a place in a house of prostitution for one who would be an Inmate;
(3) encouraging, inducing, or otherwise intentionally causing another to become or remain a prostitute;
(4) soliciting a person to patronize a prostitute;
(5) procuring a prostitute for a patron;
(6) transporting a person into or within this Commonwealth with intent to promote the engaging in Prostitution by that person, or procuring or paying for transportation with that intent;
(7) leasing or otherwise permitting a place controlled by the actor, alone or in association with others, to be regularly used for prostitution or the promotion of prostitution, or failure to make reasonable effort to abate. Such use by ejecting the tenant, notifying law enforcement Authorities, or other legally available means; or.
(8) soliciting, receiving, or agreeing to receive any. Benefit for doing or agreeing to do anything forbidden by. This subsection.
Until this discussion, most of the concern on this site has had to do with solicitation. Ignorance of the law is and has never been a good defense. Thus, I have always maintained that I do not pay for sex. I post regularly on this site. That does not mean I am suggesting to others that they seek out prostitutes for any reason. I do not and never have promoted prostitution.
Thank you, Cephlapod Love, for helping me clarify my position.
CookyJar
. LEO have to prove that any illegal activity actually happened, the burden of proof is on them.
Rant Off!Like your having been picked-up with a known Streetwalker in your car. BTW: Pandering is a Felony in some states. I believe.
I am not talking about charges. I am talking about evidence.
What we say on this forum can be used as evidence. If you admit to guilt on a TV show, the video can be used as evidence. If you admit to guilt in an Email or Text message, that too can be used as evidence. If you admit to guilt in a locker room full of your buddies or in a jail cell full of inmates, they can be subpoenaed and testify for the prosecution. Sure you can recant.
In most cases, when someone commits a crime they assume that they will get away with it. We as mongers all believe that we will never get caught. What are the odds? And if it does happen, it's only a misdemeanor, Right? Sure it is, unless the cutie sitting next to you looks 21 but is actually 16, then what? Nothing like that will ever happen to you, right? But; what if it does happen to you. The one law that we mongers should never forget, is the one we always seem to forget – Murphy's Law.
If you keep on doing it, chances are the odds will catch up with you. I have been doing this for 5 yrs, posted a lot of pictures and said a lot of things.
If it ever happens, and I doubt that it will; but if it does, I will let my lawyer handle everything. I just think it is better to not have anything to recant. That's why I don't pay for sex and I would never suggest to others that they should pay for sex. Paying for sex is illegal and everyone in this forum should know that and abide by the law.
CookyJar
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