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BlueBallsMitch
08-27-12, 07:01
Don't mean to thread-crap but if anyone out there would be so kind to recommend a masseuse with a solid rim service, it would be much appreciated.
The only girl I know who did it (well) has left the business.
TYIAFar east is usually good for that. Just press you ass against the girls hand when she gives you the table shower. She'll get the message.
Be prepared for house +160 since those girls can get really bitchy at that spa.
Hugh Handsoman
08-27-12, 10:50
I'm new to this site and the whole AMP hobby, can anyone suggest a good one to go to for someone just getting started.
ThanksHttp://forum.myredbook.com/dcforum2/DCForumID19/42991.html
Gogglz Paesano
08-27-12, 12:32
Nothing unusual. Young blew me (a kiss) too.
Longtime lurker, first time poster here. I just called to see if One Spa was opened and they said they were, but that they only had American girls? I would go and check it out but I wouldn't want my 50 min drive up there to be for lesser quality chicks than the usual K- girls.
Smoke Screen
08-27-12, 19:18
Something is definitely going on. I went to OS yesterday (Saturday) afternoon around 5 and the outside door was locked. Rang the the bell a few times and got nothing. I went back to my car and called. A women answered and told me the spa was closed for bacation. I asked her when they would re-open and she said maybe next weekend, not sure. I've never seen an entire AMP go on bacation at the same time. Very strange.OS is open.
Member #5805
08-27-12, 19:55
I usually stopped by on occasion as I had an interesting arrangement with the mamasan. Stopped by on Sunday and doors locked, signs gone, even private numbers I had are disconnected.
Second time in less than a week from two different people in the business saying that they are starting to feel some pressure from LE. I'm not going into details. I do know of a local Spa that is down to three girls when the usual is 5-6 girls. They left cause there afraid of looming LE actions. I certainly hope I am wrong but I'm sensing that the "freedoms" we are currently enjoying here in good ole Rhody may be in for a change!
MuffyTheDiver
08-27-12, 20:48
OS is open.Even though they and other Spa's are still open I can tell you that things are not normal right now. There is a real uneasy feeling right now and many girls have decided to take a break and let things cool down. My personal feelings is that most of this is being caused by false rumors about LE forcing closures, If LE was doing this it surely would be televised and on the news, the only thing we know of is the Jackass who claims Yoyo at North Main sexually assaulted him! I think this has gotten out of hand and now many of the Spa's are very nervous. I guess only time will tell but lets please all just keep a level head about this and not let the Rumors run the Spa's out of town!
Decided to visit 1021 on Sunday morning. Almost ther when I get detoured. Broad St was completely blocked off. Being from mass and not really knowing the area it took a few to get my bearings on where to go. Finally got to the other side of Broad st so I could park. Ended up having to walk about 3 blocks through the crowd of people I finally made it to see Sophia and the girls. Asked for and got to see the lovely Yung. As usual withher everything was great. From start to finish this girl is outstanding. I hope she stays a while so many of you guys can get a chance to see her. I am not sure if anything is going on with le but everting seemed calm at 1021.
Even though they and other Spa's are still open I can tell you that things are not normal right now. There is a real uneasy feeling right now and many girls have decided to take a break and let things cool down. My personal feelings is that most of this is being caused by false rumors about LE forcing closures, If LE was doing this it surely would be televised and on the news, the only thing we know of is the Jackass who claims Yoyo at North Main sexually assaulted him! I think this has gotten out of hand and now many of the Spa's are very nervous. I guess only time will tell but lets please all just keep a level head about this and not let the Rumors run the Spa's out of town!LVMPD & quot; Buyer Beware& quot; Program Arrests 268.
LAS VEGAS. The Las Vegas Metropolitan Police announced the arrests of 144 individuals during a 10-day nationwide anti-prostitution operation named "Buyer Beware."
LVMPD Detectives arrested 26 "johns" during the operation that concluded on Aug. 20 and impounded four vehicles. A total of 188 charges were filed.
In many cases, suspects were arrested on multiple charges. During the operation, four juveniles who had been exploited into a life of prostitution were identified by investigators.
Due to the ongoing nature of the investigations, no suspect names will be released.
This annual nationwide effort is in its third year.
Source:
http://www.8newsnow.com/story/193565.am-arrests-144
New 3:
LAS VEGAS (KSNV & MyNews3). A National sweep called Operation Buyer Beware sends hundreds of men behind bars.
The 10-day operation targeted so called johns, men who were looking to pay for sex in hotels, the streets and online.
Authorities say 268 men were arrested. Women's advocacy groups say more needs to be done to keep women from being victimized and empowered. A group gathers this weekend at Lake Las Vegas with that goal in mind.
News 3's Crime Tracker 3 Anchor Marie Mortera has more on this.
http://www.mynews3.com/content/speci.R6GjMT4iQ.cspx
These are the stories although the links may not work
Be safe. Be aware.
I think I figured it out, he was thinking that a asian civilian was a SW because she looked like seven near the CVS, becuase the guys outside were playing checkers and he had made up his mind to stay at the light for a extra few minutes, just to confirm that the guys playing checkers were not playing checkers but debating whether this suppose SW was seven and not a civilian because she was close to 1021 which in near the highway. When he went to ABC he got soap in his eye because mimi wasn't seven but mimi which might have been the girl he saw near the highway, but was probably a civillian on her phone calling 1021 asking if they take women. See that was easy how could you have not gotten that.
Oh the soap in the eyes is easy, mimmi had washed his hand and he probably wiped his eye, not knowing that there was soap on his fingertips, hope he doesn't sue ABC for bodily damage.
Tada.
TapOk, I'm sorry, I think in monger code, and it comes out even worst. 7 is not a SW. I did see ASW around CVS headed east on Thurbers, off Broad. Can't you tell I mixed three reports into one (1021, ABC, DT). Perhaps that's a record. I feel like that one post six months ago that was not only way cryptic, but full of grammar errors. I bet you know the one.
Member #5805
08-28-12, 07:08
Apparently not a rumor anymore, journal has an article today about closures.
http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/08/providence-poli-134.html
Even though they and other Spa's are still open I can tell you that things are not normal right now. There is a real uneasy feeling right now and many girls have decided to take a break and let things cool down. My personal feelings is that most of this is being caused by false rumors about LE forcing closures, If LE was doing this it surely would be televised and on the news, the only thing we know of is the Jackass who claims Yoyo at North Main sexually assaulted him! I think this has gotten out of hand and now many of the Spa's are very nervous. I guess only time will tell but lets please all just keep a level head about this and not let the Rumors run the Spa's out of town!
Joey Stock
08-28-12, 07:30
Man,
You guys have been right on the money on this, so many posts have said something is up, here is this article saying they have shut down 1/3 of these already, and he is quoted as saying he isn't stopping until they all are shut down. http://hosted2.ap.org/RIPRJ/94df6789960948c2869c5b6429e1fe7d/Article_2012-08-28-Massage%20Parlor%20Shutdowns / I'd-46da00084edd4ec2b0670941dfe97433
Fly Dangler
08-28-12, 08:22
Even though they and other Spa's are still open I can tell you that things are not normal right now. There is a real uneasy feeling right now and many girls have decided to take a break and let things cool down. My personal feelings is that most of this is being caused by false rumors about LE forcing closures, If LE was doing this it surely would be televised and on the news, the only thing we know of is the Jackass who claims Yoyo at North Main sexually assaulted him! I think this has gotten out of hand and now many of the Spa's are very nervous. I guess only time will tell but lets please all just keep a level head about this and not let the Rumors run the Spa's out of town!Might just be the rumors are not so false. Did you see this ProJo story?
http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/08/providence-poli-134.html
I'm thinking there may well be more to come. What's next, an AMP exodus to Cranston?
LivnLifeVIP
08-28-12, 08:54
It's an election year.
MuffyTheDiver
08-28-12, 09:01
Might just be the rumors are not so false. Did you see this ProJo story?
http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/08/providence-poli-134.html
I'm thinking there may well be more to come. What's next, an AMP exodus to Cranston?Thanks for finding this, I guess deep down inside I was trying to convince myself that what I was hearing were just false rumors expanded upon by some nervous girls. Lets hope that LE has finished showing they are working on stopping this terribly violent crime wave these Spas introduce into our relatively crimeless capitol. Guess they don't have the budget to go out and stop and solve all those murders
Thanks for the update. I was planning a trip to ONE. I haven't been since they reopened. I think I will postpone any trips until this apparent strike on violent happy endings stops.
BlueBallsMitch
08-28-12, 09:48
Might just be the rumors are not so false. Did you see this ProJo story?
http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/08/providence-poli-134.html
I'm thinking there may well be more to come. What's next, an AMP exodus to Cranston?I never thought the day would come when sws seem like the "safer" option.
Wasn't there a FS spa in cranston until last year?
Fly Dangler
08-28-12, 10:23
Lets hope that LE has finished showing they are working on stopping this terribly violent crime wave these Spas introduce into our relatively crimeless capitolAnother note here about stings in Las Vegas as part of the nationwide "Buyer Beware" action got me wondering, so I went to Google News and searched for news stories involving prostitution. Sure enough, there were a bunch of these same type activities nation wide recently, which was enough to indicate to me they were probably related as part of a show and tell action coordinated by the U, S. Attorney General and FBI. Maybe it will divert attention from the "Fast & Furious" scandal.
VilunyaChert
08-28-12, 11:55
If LE was doing this it surely would be televised and on the newsAnd now it is. Today's Projo.
http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/08/providence-poli-134.html
PROVIDENCE, R. I. In recent weeks, the police say, they have caused the shutdown of more than one-third of the illegal massage parlors in the city by having undercover officers pose as customers and by pressuring the businesses' landlords.
Their success, they say, is thanks to the three-year-old law against indoor prostitution that makes landlords potentially liable for lawbreaking in their buildings.
Three women have been arrested and charged with procurement of sexual conduct after allegedly propositioning the officers. Their cases are pending.
The spas shut down. From a total of 14. Are Sunflower Spa. 627 Douglas Ave. ; Red Rose Spa. 2 Pontiac Ave. ; JJ Tunia Body Work. 30 Pontiac Ave. ; Central Health. 22 Oregon St. ; and Heavenly Hands. 146 Admiral St.Clowns.
Fly Dangler
08-28-12, 12:17
Wasn't there a FS spa in cranston until last year?Actually I think there were a couple on Route 5 almost across the street from each other, and maybe one or two others.
And now it is. Today's Projo.
http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/08/providence-poli-134.html
Clowns.So does this mean the ones not closed will remain open? I frankly don't care about the ones closed, only the ones open. Maybe a coincidence? Paucity of paid business to pay the piper protection?
Man,
You guys have been right on the money on this, so many posts have said something is up, here is this article saying they have shut down 1/3 of these already, and he is quoted as saying he isn't stopping until they all are shut down.
http://hosted2.ap.org/RIPRJ/94df6789960948c2869c5b6429e1fe7d/Article_2012-08-28-Massage
%20Parlor%20Shutdowns / I'd-46da00084edd4ec2b0670941dfe97433If spa's close maybe some of these wonderful spa providers will go independent on BP till things blow over.
Stressed Out
08-28-12, 16:06
Thanks for finding this, I guess deep down inside I was trying to convince myself that what I was hearing were just false rumors expanded upon by some nervous girls. Lets hope that LE has finished showing they are working on stopping this terribly violent crime wave these Spas introduce into our relatively crimeless capitol. Guess they don't have the budget to go out and stop and solve all those murdersGuess the landscape is changing from permanent AMP structures to the move every week world of AAMPS. Hopefully as in everything things will calm down.
Guess the landscape is changing from permanent AMP structures to the move every week world of AAMPS. Hopefully as in everything things will calm down.Reminds me of west coast. I actually prefer aamps. I like the privacy of aamps and service was always more attentive. But that could be due to the fact there are awesome aamp providers on west coast.
Needed a little attention Sat morning so headed to Lily's and Sunny. I've seen Sunny about 7 times now and hope to see her more. She is just a great young lady. We have a good spark, we make each other laugh. Her attitude is always upbeat. Of course I usually see her first thing in morning. Her TS and massage skills are always good. She does just the right amount of teasing, gets my motor running. Hope she stays around for a while. She's a gem
Muff Daddy
08-28-12, 17:07
Apparently not a rumor anymore, journal has an article today about closures.
http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/08/providence-poli-134.htmlSophia called me I told her I was working and may pass by soon. My gf thankfully wasn't with me.
Something is going on because she hasn't called me in a while, I'll have to tell her chill out. Maybe Trying to reach out utr possibly idk.
I was there last week and the place seemed busy. The phone and door bell were going off every few minutes.
Member #4868
08-28-12, 17:43
Apparently not a rumor anymore, journal has an article today about closures.
http://news.providencejournal.com/breaking-news/2012/08/providence-poli-134.htmlAnyone else find it curious that they only targeted second and third tier establishments?
Called this afternoon to schedule a girl. No answer. Called a few times no answer. Went to buzzer to get buzzed in. No answer. Getting serious it seems. Any one have news regarding other establishments?
Smoke Screen
08-28-12, 18:21
Anyone else find it curious that they only targeted second and third tier establishments?Yes, I thought exactly the same. Could be they don't pay off enough. We'll have to wait and see what happens to the rest of them.
Member #4247
08-28-12, 18:47
Thanks for finding this, I guess deep down inside I was trying to convince myself that what I was hearing were just false rumors expanded upon by some nervous girls. Lets hope that LE has finished showing they are working on stopping this terribly violent crime wave these Spas introduce into our relatively crimeless capitol. Guess they don't have the budget to go out and stop and solve all those murdersThey way to look at it is it's easier to take down a pretty 90 lb lady that gives a HJ than to take down a criminal who's commited a serious crime.
Member #4247
08-28-12, 18:50
Yes, I thought exactly the same. Could be they don't pay off enough. We'll have to wait and see what happens to the rest of them.Maybe it's the walamrt effect, get rid of the small business and put in a Mega Spa, Just think you can buy your tires and get a HJ all in one place.
Fly Dangler
08-28-12, 20:03
Hope she stays around for a while. She's a gemShe certainly is a gem. I just realized that my first visit with Sunny was probably in May 2011, so she's certainly been here longer than most.
BmoonyBoston
08-28-12, 21:14
Which of the two places in that complex are you talking about? One is an AMP that normally gets poor reviews here, while the other is a "Tanning Salon & Botique" thas has non-asian "models" that has been reasonably well reviewed by those looking for short time (usually 15 minute) sessions.
Doubt anyone who has aready posted their reviews of either, like me, will bother reiterating what they've already said here. Try using the thread search function for both "Wanskuck" and "725" to find past reviews.I've been reading this forum for a while trying to decide which establishment I have the pleasure of visiting first. I have some ideas, but after looking more into 725 branch's tanning salon and "models", I may have found the place. I have not however found any detailed reviews for this location regarding costs. Can someone please let me know if I should expect standard rates and services? I plan on visiting over the holiday week, and will post my first review then. Hopefully first of many!
Thanks in advance.
MarriedTom
08-28-12, 21:43
It is all about the press releases! Do you really think the average (non-monger) RI'er knows there are different levels of service / quality, amongst the spas in RI?
Anyone else find it curious that they only targeted second and third tier establishments?
MuffyTheDiver
08-28-12, 21:46
Sorry couldn't resist adding more fuel to the fire! All this effort, time and money spent on something like this while there seems to be at least one murder a week now in our great little city. I wonder how many HJ's these "undercover" detectives were getting while little Johnnie was getting his head blown off down the street.
http://www.abc6.com/story/19399837/providence-police-crack-down-on-illegal-massage-parlors
Yellowfever023
08-28-12, 21:59
Anyone else find it curious that they only targeted second and third tier establishments?I noticed that too. I thought it was odd that CH was one of them, if a place ever tried to stay off the radar it was CH.
Sorry couldn't resist adding more fuel to the fire! All this effort, time and money spent on something like this while there seems to be at least one murder a week now in our great little city. I wonder how many HJ's these "undercover" detectives were getting while little Johnnie was getting his head blown off down the street.
http://www.abc6.com/story/19399837/providence-police-crack-down-on-illegal-massage-parlorsFurthermore, here are the unemployment numbers by state. Maybe Prov / RI could actually, you know, leave the people gainfully employed alone and work on improving the economy in the state / city.
http://www.bls.gov/web/laus/laumstrk.htm
Member #4868
08-28-12, 22:30
It is all about the press releases! Do you really think the average (non-monger) RI'er knows there are different levels of service / quality, amongst the spas in RI?No Tom I don't but I absolutely think that LEO knows the top of the food chain is NOT the places busted. Perhaps some higher up's prefer One. 1021, or ABC?
Fly Dangler
08-28-12, 23:11
It is all about the press releases! Do you really think the average (non-monger) RI'er knows there are different levels of service / quality, amongst the spas in RI?Hmmm, the ABC 6 report in another note indicates another 5 are targeted. So what 4 will be left after the smoke clears?
BlueBallsMitch
08-28-12, 23:13
it is all about the press releases! do you really think the average (non-monger) ri'er knows there are different levels of service / quality, amongst the spas in ri?public forums. maybe for budgetary reasons they would rather close the spas without doig an expensive raid and having to pay to try to convict all of the johns.
i noticed there was it a single trafficked or **** female mentioned. seems like that ***** state rep had ni fuckig clue wha she was talking about, huh.
A N I M A L
08-29-12, 05:33
http://www.disastercenter.com/crime/ricrime.htm
What a joke. This is where the LE should be putting all there resource's. I`m tired of the bullshit. If the LE want to make headlines do something about the thousands of crimes going on every year. How many times do you hear of a crime at your local AMP. What a joke. What about all the other Massage establishments in Rhode Island. There are thousands of them. I guess there going to hit them all. I don`t think so. There is a thing call racial profiling. You can`t target one race and not everyone else. So if the LE is set on hitting all AMP`s then they have to storm every license massage therapist in the state. If I was the Lawyer for these places I would ask if the LE was checking all of the licensed massage therapist in R. I. And if they are sending under cover LE to them too.
I guess they just like to pick on women. Hand cuffing them and Kicking them in the head while there sitting on the ground. I love that video. But the officer got off with losing his job. No jail time. We all must play by the same set of rules. If that was just an average guy who kicked her in the head while she was handcuffed. We would be at the ACI for sure.
I refuse to be told what I can do, where I can go. So support your local AMP. I will.
Yellowfever023
08-29-12, 07:32
Going to 1021, they are on vacation for a bit.
Seems like that ***** state rep had ni fuckig clue wha she was talking about, huh.Does any state rep have a freakin' clue about anything? Except hiding the bribes and getting re-elected?
How many crimes have been committed in AMPs vs Providence street shootings so far this year?
They pick up SW'ers because they're easy targets yet the number of drug users in those buildings in beautiful downtown outnumber the walkers 10, maybe 100 to 1. But those in those buildings can afford lawyers and it's too much work for the donut eaters to go after them.
FWIW, my grandfather was a Mountie in Canada before moving to Mass and becoming a cop. His son, my uncle, died in a police car. Natural causes. My brother retired as a cop, not in Prov, and is / was the biggest monger you'll ever meet. Politicians and cops are the biggest hypocrites on the face of the earth.
Hey, thanks for letting me rant.
MuffyTheDiver
08-29-12, 11:41
Going to 1021, they are on vacation for a bit.And when and if they return you can expect a much different way of doing business! If the Mamasan doesn't know you expect you will most likely get a standard massage with no touching in private regions and no extras offered until they are fully comfortable. I fully agree with this and feel they should have been conducting business this way from day one. I think things had gotten so relaxed that anyone could walk in the door and immediately be propositioned within minutes. Hopefully LE will prove they are are fighting this wave of dangerous Asian HJ girls sexually assaulting poor unsuspecting men and then once things quiet down it all gets forgotten. I would hate to see Providence go the way of Waterbury Ct. Several years ago Waterbury was the Spa Mecha of the North East until LE and the politicians decided to close them all down. Now there are none or they have dug in and gone underground.
Lets just hope this is an adjustment that we see every few years, like in the God father movie when they "Go to the Mattress's" these things have to happen every few years to work out the kinks and hopefully ends up in a positive note!
like in the God father movie when they "Go to the Mattress's" these things have to happen every few years to work out the kinks and hopefully ends up in a positive note!AMPs going to the mattresses, LMFAO!
Fly Dangler
08-29-12, 12:05
Had another excellent visit with Yumi at NMS early today. If anything it was even better than my last visit 3 weeks ago, see previous review from then.
She said business had been slower the past couple days and when I pulled in I only saw one other vehicle (MA plates) in the parking lot. I noticed one reason for that when I left, the Providence police had left an empty old squad car parked just before the entrance to the lot. That didn't appear to phase the MA monger who pulled in as I was leaving, but I'm sure it's part of LE's recent attempts to intimidate AMPs and their customers.
BTW, the towels here are still big and soft.
And I quote "Politicians and cops are the biggest hypocrites on the face of the earth."
Does any state rep have a freakin' clue about anything? Except hiding the bribes and getting re-elected?
How many crimes have been committed in AMPs vs Providence street shootings so far this year?
They pick up SW'ers because they're easy targets yet the number of drug users in those buildings in beautiful downtown outnumber the walkers 10, maybe 100 to 1. But those in those buildings can afford lawyers and it's too much work for the donut eaters to go after them.
FWIW, my grandfather was a Mountie in Canada before moving to Mass and becoming a cop. His son, my uncle, died in a police car. Natural causes. My brother retired as a cop, not in Prov, and is / was the biggest monger you'll ever meet. Politicians and cops are the biggest hypocrites on the face of the earth.
Hey, thanks for letting me rant.I don't think it's the LE as much as the politicians. It's an election year and all they want are those contributions to their campaigns. So they appease some of their constituents by doing this crap. If that idiot from MA didn't file an assault charge against YoYo at NMS I don't think we would be seeing this now. I'm sure the Prov. LE know that this is crap and a waste of man power when they can be out there trying to get drug pushers, murderers, molesters etc put behind bars.
MuffyTheDiver
08-29-12, 12:50
AMPs going to the mattresses, LMFAO!Hey G. Since I am busy quoting movie phrases. Tell me where this one comes from?"Do I amuse you. Do I look like a fucking clown to you?". '
I don't think it's the LE as much as the politicians. It's an election year and all they want are those contributions to their campaigns.To a point you are correct, politicians always are pandering to get votes promising to "clean up" neighborhoods every 2-4 years.
However, over the years I've gotten friendly with a number of walkers who have told me they don't get picked up because they give it away to certain LE members. Sara, short, cute, curly haired blonde with no chest but could suck like a Hoover and I got caught. I saw the car but LE waited till the spit. Gave me a ration and took her away. Next time I saw her she said she blew him and all was good. Patty 1, Patty 2, Chrissy, Tara and Chyna have all told me similar stories.
Muff Daddy
08-29-12, 14:00
To a point you are correct, politicians always are pandering to get votes promising to "clean up" neighborhoods every 2-4 years.
However, over the years I've gotten friendly with a number of walkers who have told me they don't get picked up because they give it away to certain LE members. Sara, short, cute, curly haired blonde with no chest but could suck like a Hoover and I got caught. I saw the car but LE waited till the spit. Gave me a ration and took her away. Next time I saw her she said she blew him and all was good. Patty 1, Patty 2, Chrissy, Tara and Chyna have all told me similar stories.Happens all the time. Not just LE but many political figures use hookers use drugs or worse hide behind Hypocracy. Who can you trust Is it any wonder
The sad state of our world?
http://boston.cbslocal.com/2011/12/16/police-off-duty-trooper-caught-with-prostitute-tried-to-run-down-lynn-cop/
Don't bother going to 1021, they are on vacation for a bit.Bummer, was going to try and make it down there tonight.
And when and if they return you can expect a much different way of doing business! If the Mamasan doesn't know you expect you will most likely get a standard massage with no touching in private regions and no extras offered until they are fully comfortable.Glad I got my "foot" in the "door" before this shitstorm I guess.
And when and if they return you can expect a much different way of doing business! If the Mamasan doesn't know you expect you will most likely get a standard massage with no touching in private regions and no extras offered until they are fully comfortable. I fully agree with this and feel they should have been conducting business this way from day one. I think things had gotten so relaxed that anyone could walk in the door and immediately be propositioned within minutes. Hopefully LE will prove they are are fighting this wave of dangerous Asian HJ girls sexually assaulting poor unsuspecting men and then once things quiet down it all gets forgotten. I would hate to see Providence go the way of Waterbury Ct. Several years ago Waterbury was the Spa Mecha of the North East until LE and the politicians decided to close them all down. Now there are none or they have dug in and gone underground.
Lets just hope this is an adjustment that we see every few years, like in the God father movie when they "Go to the Mattress's" these things have to happen every few years to work out the kinks and hopefully ends up in a positive note!Waterbury CT was great. I did look at the CT Board to check New Haven as they had a killer spa there longstanding. Star / Sun Star / Blue Star. There looks to be a similar pattern there where the posters are questioning if Star is closed as that would be the closest alternative to Providence I am aware of.
The guy from Dighton MA who created this tempest based on his allegation of sexual assault at NMS must have some ulterior motive as his story is a bit odd. Waiting months to come forward and such. I would think a simple "no thank-you" would work for many if they truly were uninterested. Or turn over. I mean how hard can it be?
Whatever his motivation he is playing into the hands of those with an agenda & power to attack this activity damaging many including patrons.
So did. The place get busted or closed because of the heat?
I have no use for LE. They're never around for real. Crime.
Fly Dangler
08-29-12, 15:04
Lets just hope this is an adjustment that we see every few yearsI think this is just part of the nationwide "Buyer Beware" crackdown on prostitution initiated and coordinated by USDoJ and FBI, which apparently they want to make an annual event. Saw numerous stories relating to it on Google News, with police stings and other activities from coast to coast over the past week or so. Now if they'd just start putting out a press release before they start it might help us out a lot.
With 1021 on vacation decided to try my luck with ABC. Drove by and saw parking lot empty decided to call and make appointment with 7. Mama picks up tells me they are full and not taking customers as I'm staring at an empty parking lot. Decided to try OS. Called a few times. No answer. I guess its not limited to second tier AMPs as someone suggested. Anyone know where I can go to scratch the itch?
With 1021 on vacation decided to try my luck with ABC. Drove by and saw parking lot empty decided to call and make appointment with 7. Mama picks up tells me they are full and not taking customers as I'm staring at an empty parking lot. Decided to try OS. Called a few times. No answer. I guess its not limited to second tier AMPs as someone suggested. Anyone know where I can go to scratch the itch?
Fly Dangler
08-29-12, 19:04
Anyone know where I can go to scratch the itch?Since it's Providence's finest doing the harrassment maybe you might want to head up I-95 to Pawtucket and hopefully not have to stand in line at Far East.
Member #4247
08-30-12, 03:34
Hey G. Since I am busy quoting movie phrases. Tell me where this one comes from?"Do I amuse you. Do I look like a fucking clown to you?". 'Goodfellas, The bar scene
LivnLifeVIP
08-30-12, 09:37
Since it's Providence's finest doing the harrassment maybe you might want to head up I-95 to Pawtucket and hopefully not have to stand in line at Far East.Far East had a couple cars in the lot, when I went by Tues evening.
Gave a call to abc no answer not good they are my favorite then os and neither are open oh well no $$ to Rhode Islands economy as I usually shop and get some food after I get my massage
Muff Daddy
08-30-12, 13:53
Just waiting for the dark cloud to blow over.
Fly Dangler
08-30-12, 13:53
Let's see, five Providence establishments closed by police harrassment. 1021 on bacation, ABC full and not taking customers, One Spa doesn't answer phone, empty police cruiser parked outside NMS (which was still operating normally yesterday)? Was curious about the rest, so tried calling them and found Lily & Wanskuck apparently operating as normal, Asiana said closed for the day and no answer at Downtown, Capitol or Sakura (Bernon Street). Wow!
BlueBallsMitch
08-30-12, 15:06
Let's see, five Providence establishments closed by police harrassment. 1021 on bacation, ABC full and not taking customers, One Spa doesn't answer phone, empty police cruiser parked outside NMS (which was still operating normally yesterday)? Was curious about the rest, so tried calling them and found Lily & Wanskuck apparently operating as normal, Asiana said closed for the day and no answer at Downtown, Capitol or Sakura (Bernon Street). Wow!I was thinking about having a good time of the asian persuasion, but I guess thats not a good idea. Safer to grab a SW lately, no boys in blue anywhere around elmwood. Going to text tracy and see if the end of the month has her broke again.
MuffyTheDiver
08-30-12, 15:16
Let's see, five Providence establishments closed by police harrassment. 1021 on bacation, ABC full and not taking customers, One Spa doesn't answer phone, empty police cruiser parked outside NMS (which was still operating normally yesterday)? Was curious about the rest, so tried calling them and found Lily & Wanskuck apparently operating as normal, Asiana said closed for the day and no answer at Downtown, Capitol or Sakura (Bernon Street). Wow!I wonder how the Pawtucket Spa's are fairing? I don't have any connections to them and haven't heard a word. If they are open I'm willing to bet business is booming for them!
Member #4247
08-30-12, 17:42
Hey M's.
What do you think about the aftermath. I was just thinking if and when the Leo bombs stop dropping, what will happen to the spa's will they re-open and where. If Leo knows where the establishments are their going to do a 90 day probathion period. Like 1021 is doesn't do public advertising but we now where it is, will they move to a new location? Will the girls be the spinner type and the age that we come to love? I figure Red rose and J&J are done, but 1021 will come back only in a snail pace. Abc is going to have to find a new local it's way to well watched by passer byers. NMS and Lilly will change their names and or find a new local. I think this is the start of a sh*t storm, once the spa are closed the SW will be next, and maybe even the escorts. BP is to open which gives Leo the gps to find such info. One of my concerns is that BP doesn't become another CL, due to political pressure.
Stay safe.
Tap
Fly Dangler
08-30-12, 18:35
NMS and Lilly will change their names and or find a new localI believe both own their own buildings, unlike the others. As a result they are not as susceptable to police harrassment of the landlords, resulting in tactics like parking the empty squad car by the entrance to a parking lot.
In that ABC 6 report someone else posted it looked like Providence police were only going after 10 of the 14 AMPs in the city, which seemed strange. We'll have to see how that plays out.
BlueBallsMitch
08-30-12, 18:58
Hey M's.
What do you think about the aftermath. I was just thinking if and when the Leo bombs stop dropping, what will happen to the spa's will they re-open and where. If Leo knows where the establishments are their going to do a 90 day probathion period. Like 1021 is doesn't do public advertising but we now where it is, will they move to a new location? Will the girls be the spinner type and the age that we come to love? I figure Red rose and J&J are done, but 1021 will come back only in a snail pace. Abc is going to have to find a new local it's way to well watched by passer byers. NMS and Lilly will change their names and or find a new local. I think this is the start of a sh*t storm, once the spa are closed the SW will be next, and maybe even the escorts. BP is to open which gives Leo the gps to find such info. One of my concerns is that BP doesn't become another CL, due to political pressure.
Stay safe.
TapBackpage is owned by the village voice media. They have won thousands of lawsuits over the last 30 years about their pape magazines and their right to publish the escort ads. They are in no way going to back down like CL. They dared the us ag to try to shit them down last time, because they knew they would win amd he govt would be forced to pay the attorney fees.
Smoke Screen
08-30-12, 20:53
Hey M's.
What do you think about the aftermath. One of my concerns is that BP doesn't become another CL, due to political pressure.
Stay safe.
TapJust to be on the safe side and to also have some sort of choice of where to go if / when the rest of the AMPs close or are shut down, I've jotted down some of the most interesting (to me anyway) BP ads, in case BP goes the way of CL.
Pussyhunter69
08-30-12, 22:39
I drove by abc tonight at 9:00 on the way to a friends place. There no cars in the parking lot, it looked closed.
I wonder how the Pawtucket Spa's are fairing? I don't have any connections to them and haven't heard a word. If they are open I'm willing to bet business is booming for them!Forgive me (Jackson too) but I don't think this is the time to be shining a spotlight on ANY of our favorite haunts ANYWHERE in RI.
Such a waste of taxpayer money when people are dying from violence in the streets of every major municipality in little ol' Rhody (and across the country) every week.
I had the pleasure of visiting a legal brothel (Asian, no less) in Nevada recently. Such a nice experience. Rhody, America, wake the fu#k up! This isn't the 17th century!
ND
Was in Prov last week and decided to go to Cheaters which I have never been. Great place but most of the girls were 4-7's and I could not figure out what all the different rooms were with different prices. Left there and decided to go to an AMP of American girls in neighboring town. Had a session with a black female who had a huge set of D's and a little booty on her. Great time and the price was average but her service was somewhat mechanical. Sucks about what is going on, I'm sure CT and Mass AMP's will be next.
Tiger
I'm sure CT and Mass AMP's will be next.
TigerActually, MA ones are already under fire, that's why I decided to try out the RI ones recently. They just nailed one out near Worcester to the wall. With the human trafficking laws MA passed last year, I'm staying away from MA AMPs. Even a very reputable escort agency shuttered its doors for a couple of months this summer due to the heat.
http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/central-massachusetts/Two-women-charged-with-human-trafficking/-/11983998/16061312/-/9ianw7z/-/index.html#ixzz23MFHvtS0
Here's a post I did on the Worcester AMP board:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5659-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=1517770&viewfull=1#post1517770
Fly Dangler
08-31-12, 13:38
Actually, MA ones are already under fireThat started back about mid February, didn't it? That seems to be a state wide thing.
IAC what's going on here in RI seems to be limited to the city of Providence, and it's not that we haven't seen that before, is it? If memory serves me right didn't the Providence police close up a few and scare the heck out of the rest just before the election a few years ago? Wasn't that the action that saw us lose Oriental Garden and one other on North Main Street, as well as Midori?
Pawtucket police seem pretty busy concentrating on writing tickets in the name of revenue enhancement, or is it public safety, I forget. That seems to be keeping them busy.
Anyone know what happened to the two AMPs on Atwood Avenue in Cranston? Weren't there a couple others in Cranston and Warwick too?
Craven Morehed
08-31-12, 13:56
I'm sure CT and Mass AMP's will be next.
TigerAMP in New Haven just closed for no reason, who knows for what reason but it is odd.
Choices in CT are few and far right now
BlueBallsMitch
08-31-12, 14:35
That started back about mid February, didn't it? That seems to be a state wide thing.
IAC what's going on here in RI seems to be limited to the city of Providence, and it's not that we haven't seen that before, is it? If memory serves me right didn't the Providence police close up a few and scare the heck out of the rest just before the election a few years ago? Wasn't that the action that saw us lose Oriental Garden and one other on North Main Street, as well as Midori?
Pawtucket police seem pretty busy concentrating on writing tickets in the name of revenue enhancement, or is it public safety, I forget. That seems to be keeping them busy.
Anyone know what happened to the two AMPs on Atwood Avenue in Cranston? Weren't there a couple others in Cranston and Warwick too?The warwick one only offered HJ's and only some of the girls performed as expected, so the legit girls complained, got the others fired and the place died shortly thereafter.
Weren't there a couple others in Cranston and Warwick too?There was one on Post Road just before the on ramp to 37. Didn't last long.
I'm not a AMP guy but if the AMPs go where will you AMP guys go? Back to the streets or BP, CV, etc?
If the demand is there for SW'er, BP etc maybe they'll be a increase in supply but I'm sure because of demand we'll see prices, I mean donations, increasing. Fuk'd again.
So someone mentioned pawtucket but are there any AMPs in the vain of ABC. 1021 and OS there? I thought they were all HE places from posts on here, correct me if I am wrong. PM me if you prefer not to talk publicly about any options if you like.
Member #4920
08-31-12, 16:41
Seems like a good number of AMPs have popped up in MA / RI in recent years and perhaps it's exceeded what LE will tolerate. Some of the well-established HJ-only spots will survive I'm sure. It's not like LE hasn't known for years what happens there.
Actually, MA ones are already under fire, that's why I decided to try out the RI ones recently. They just nailed one out near Worcester to the wall. With the human trafficking laws MA passed last year, I'm staying away from MA AMPs. Even a very reputable escort agency shuttered its doors for a couple of months this summer due to the heat.
http://www.wcvb.com/news/local/central-massachusetts/Two-women-charged-with-human-trafficking/-/11983998/16061312/-/9ianw7z/-/index.html#ixzz23MFHvtS0
Here's a post I did on the Worcester AMP board:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?5659-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=1517770&viewfull=1#post1517770
Smoke Screen
08-31-12, 17:25
There was one on Post Road just before the on ramp to 37. Didn't last long.
I'm not a AMP guy but if the AMPs go where will you AMP guys go? Back to the streets or BP, CV, etc?
If the demand is there for SW'er, BP etc maybe they'll be a increase in supply but I'm sure because of demand we'll see prices, I mean donations, increasing. Fuk'd again.More than likely there will be an increase in the guys loooking for SWs. Good job LE, this will also mean an increase in STDs, crime and probably drugs. This takes us from a safe hobby to diseases. Not speaking for me but I know of some who are already seeking street action. As for me, I'll find AMPs elsewhere and also see escorts.
Fly Dangler
08-31-12, 19:30
So someone mentioned pawtucket but are there any AMPs in the vain of ABC. 1021 and OS there?Yes, but probably not in the way you're thinking. Harmony will routinely short you on time in the same manner as OS, and more recently ABC have. The other two, one that routinely gets pretty good reviews here and one that doesn't, at least normally agree there are 60 minutes in an hour.
Thanks guys to those who responded now I can do some searching on here for reviews by name and check rhem out this weekend.
I do hate having to start a new again at somewhere else though I just hope the BIG3 prov AMPs rise again soon. If I was closer I'd drive down tomorrow and take a risk on 1 of them being available but its too far to go for me for a roadtrip to an unanswered doorbell. Streetwalkers aren't an option IMHO. Way too risky in terms of LE and STDs
Thanks guys to those who responded now I can do some searching on here for reviews by name and check them out this weekend.Good luck and nice to see someone doing research but I'm guessing right now, if you go to any place not on bacation, mama gotta know ya.
ND
Swung by ABC Friday morning around 10, lot empty place closed. Trip not a total loss, I called over to HE only place and setup a one hour massage with my favorite. Lot empty when I pulled in, enjoyed TS, massage and ending. Shorted a little time, she mentioned all 5 girls busy and mama asked if ok, take care of me next time (sure). I was ok with that since was an enjoyable time, anyway, I walk out and lot was packed, mostly mass plates.
Wth all the heat going on I am not planning full review, be safe out there and hopefully we can all weather this storm! PM me directly for more info, contributors only.
Moo Goo Guy
09-01-12, 10:03
So which places are still open?
More than likely there will be an increase in the guys loooking for SWs. Good job LE, this will also mean an increase in STDs, crime and probably drugs. This takes us from a safe hobby to diseases. Not speaking for me but I know of some who are already seeking street action. As for me, I'll find AMPs elsewhere and also see escorts.This is very true. As for me, if I can't find escorts who don't need verification or good AMP options or good sc options, I'll take care of myself if you know what I mean, SW's aren't worth it to me (yes I'm aware some providers do both). Those Fleshlights are a godsend. I just wish those Lupe Fuentes mini-lotus weren't out of stock. If anyone knows where I can find a new one, lmk.
Muff Daddy
09-01-12, 11:52
Open utr if you are known. Actually they never closed.
I wanted to having fun with a nice asian lady. So tried One Spa. Unfortunately that place was closed. So tried Lily Spa. Paid the house fee and then lady called Cici came for my massage. She took me for the table shower. It wasn't great. She barely touched the main area. The massage was great. But there was very little in terms of the fun part. Just an okay HJ without even letting me touch her much. Very disappointed. Had a similar experience at North Main street Spa a few weeks back. Not sure what's happening.
Rei Haragoma
09-01-12, 13:28
I wanted to having fun with a nice asian lady. So tried One Spa. Unfortunately that place was closed. So tried Lily Spa. Paid the house fee and then lady called Cici came for my massage. She took me for the table shower. It wasn't great. She barely touched the main area. The massage was great. But there was very little in terms of the fun part. Just an okay HJ without even letting me touch her much. Very disappointed. Had a similar experience at North Main street Spa a few weeks back. Not sure what's happening.My best guess is that the girls are being super-cautious. (and under the circumstances, who can blame them?)
After all, they are aware of what's going on, and it's always in the back of their mind. It must be kinda difficult for them to stay focused. Kudos to them for putting on a smiley face and making an effort to make the customer happy. I suggest cutting them slack, and being happy with what was offered.
Fly Dangler
09-01-12, 14:28
Far East had a couple cars in the lot, when I went by Tues eveningSince they aren't in Providence, and so not affected by PPD harrassment I expect they'll probably get overwhelmed quickly. Hopefully that won't mean service levels go down like seemed to happen at ABC when they picked up significantly more business after OS closed the end of May.
I have to wonder if Simple Pleasures, Pleasant Street and Harmony will see significant increases? Seems their reputations are already less than stellar, so what would increased business do?
Westbayman2000
09-01-12, 22:33
LE harassment like this has happened before and it will happen again. I am sure they don't want to deal with this issue (I am doubly sure that LE are some of the AMP's best clients). It is the local politician that is the cause of the problem. Some yahoo calls up his city rep to complain, the rep then comes down on LE then the LE gets the list of addresses from BP or CL (an example of their brilliant detective work) and they entrap their local AMPs. That is more important to them than dealing with real crimes.
The AMPs close down for a while, but the heat eventually dies down and they open up a little at a time. I would say in about 6 months all will be back to normal.
BlueBallsMitch
09-02-12, 02:30
More than likely there will be an increase in the guys loooking for SWs. Good job LE, this will also mean an increase in STDs, crime and probably drugs. This takes us from a safe hobby to diseases. Not speaking for me but I know of some who are already seeking street action. As for me, I'll find AMPs elsewhere and also see escorts.Have you completely forgotten the molloscum epidemic of 2007? 3 diffeerent parlors were passing that shit. And you could get it from the damn table shower or towels. Same with hpv and some forms of hep.
Guess what, being asian dosnt make them immune to disease.
Most of the girls I have picked up I have never been able to get again, many of them it is a rare thing to do. Your AMP girls see 5-8 every day. Thats 150-240 / month. With downtime and time walking I would bet there are many SW's with less miles on them.
It is the illusion of being a safer option, nothing more
MarriedTom
09-02-12, 08:30
Saw ad for CH on BP this morning. They do not usually run BP ad, so I think it is not a case where they prepaid, and it is automatically posted.
http://providence.backpage.com/BodyRubs/central-health-401-351-1611-at-provdence-exit-23-21/3023986
My best guess is that the girls are being super-cautious. (and under the circumstances, who can blame them?)
After all, they are aware of what's going on, and it's always in the back of their mind. It must be kinda difficult for them to stay focused. Kudos to them for putting on a smiley face and making an effort to make the customer happy. I suggest cutting them slack, and being happy with what was offered.If what we are being told is correct, the girls should be happy that they are about to be liberated from their slavery.
(Has anybody ever wondered why we can't get slaves to give us a full hour?)
Have you completely forgotten the molloscum epidemic of 2007? 3 diffeerent parlors were passing that shit. And you could get it from the damn table shower or towels. Same with hpv and some forms of hep.
Guess what, being asian dosnt make them immune to disease.
Most of the girls I have picked up I have never been able to get again, many of them it is a rare thing to do. Your AMP girls see 5-8 every day. Thats 150-240 / month. With downtime and time walking I would bet there are many SW's with less miles on them.
It is the illusion of being a safer option, nothing more"I have never been able to get again" Have you considered the reason you have not been able to get them again is they are off blowing whoever beat you to them? And, considering what they make per client, they have to put out for many more clients than 5-8 per day. To each his own and I'm not saying AMPs are 100% safe by any means, but to propose that SW are lower risk than AMPs, well, that is the illusion.
ND
(Has anybody ever wondered why we can't get slaves to give us a full hour?)Well put CB. Remember the day the new law went into effect and many "slaves" refused to show up for work for fear of prosecution? Hmmm, didn't realize "slaves" could refuse!
ND
Smoke Screen
09-02-12, 13:40
Have you completely forgotten the molloscum epidemic of 2007? 3 diffeerent parlors were passing that shit. And you could get it from the damn table shower or towels. Same with hpv and some forms of hep.
Guess what, being asian dosnt make them immune to disease.
Most of the girls I have picked up I have never been able to get again, many of them it is a rare thing to do. Your AMP girls see 5-8 every day. Thats 150-240 / month. With downtime and time walking I would bet there are many SW's with less miles on them.
It is the illusion of being a safer option, nothing moreNo, it's not an illusion, it's a fact, protected sex is much safer than BB. Are you foolish enough to doubt that? Of course there is always a risk in any type of sex. Very rarely will you get BBFS at an AMP. Can you say that about SWs? Most SWs are into some form of drugs and will do anything for money for their next fix.
Yellowfever023
09-02-12, 16:40
Open utr if you are known. Actually they never closed.I spoke with Mamma today and she say's they are closed. I am a good friend to this place so they have no reason to tell me otherwise.
Apoconoguy
09-03-12, 13:23
Staying in Providence next week, after reading here, is anything still open or worth going to?
Decided to give "goddess" yosefa a try due to the current AMP situation. She is definetly not a goddess, the place is small, ground level room with a window at street level. When you enter there is a small waiting area with a desk and some chairs, Hiza the TS was sitting there when I arrived, and though she is passable, his / her voice is a dead giveaway. The massage with yosefa sucked, just hands rubbing back and forth, no tease, nothing even hinted for extras. Definetly a waste of time, the room is small and right next to the entrance so you could hear everything going on.
MuffyTheDiver
09-04-12, 12:32
Open utr if you are known. Actually they never closed.Just so everyone knows. I am not "Muff Daddy" I have been getting a bunch of PM's asking me if 1021 is open UTR. Please direct your questions to "Muff Daddy" as he has the inside scoop. I would be very interested to know where he gets his "secret info" from as I am having some serious "Asian withdrawals".
Happened to be in North Prov this morning. Decided to ride by Lily's and see if any car's in lot and there were three, but one was from NY. If I had time would have stopped in for a quick Asian fix. At least they and NMS are open. Didn't see any LE around.
BlueBallsMitch
09-04-12, 16:32
No, it's not an illusion, it's a fact, protected sex is much safer than BB. Are you foolish enough to doubt that? Of course there is always a risk in any type of sex. Very rarely will you get BBFS at an AMP. Can you say that about SWs? Most SWs are into some form of drugs and will do anything for money for their next fix.Just to play devils advocate here- first off- I don't partake in BBFS wth SW's. Only 1 girl I have seen for pay was bareback and she wasnt a pro, just a dumb broke chick.
Second- there were 541 new cases of hiv / aids in ri last year and of those, less Than 1/3 were females. Out of 600k women. 134. Even when you account for age and fuckability, you are still looking at a numbers game.
Just by sheer quantity of dicks, I think that AMP providers are more dangerous than most SW's. At best they are equally dangerous.
And yes, I have been offered BBFS at both branch ave (300) and far east (350).
Also at balloons (by 5-6 different girls, all of them hispanic or black).
If you like expensive asian pussy then fine, but do not act as if it somehow safer to new readers.
Happened to be in the neighborhood so I drive by ABC. No lights on and no cars in parking lot. First Westminster and now Smithfield Ave. Very sad. (and yes I know it's been a few years for Westminster but say "company").
Open utr if you are known. Actually they never closed.Not true.
The girls left first with both Mamasan and the Kitchen Mama staying behind for a couple of days. After hearing the news about the other spas the girls were too scared to stay.
Staying in Providence next week, after reading here, is anything still open or worth going to?Why don't you try? And then let US know. You know you can give info on this board, as well as take.
Dog out
Smoke Screen
09-05-12, 07:12
Just to play devils advocate here- first off- I don't partake in BBFS wth SW's. Only 1 girl I have seen for pay was bareback and she wasnt a pro, just a dumb broke chick.
Second- there were 541 new cases of hiv / aids in ri last year and of those, less Than 1/3 were females. Out of 600k women. 134. Even when you account for age and fuckability, you are still looking at a numbers game.
Just by sheer quantity of dicks, I think that AMP providers are more dangerous than most SW's. At best they are equally dangerous.
And yes, I have been offered BBFS at both branch ave (300) and far east (350).
Also at balloons (by 5-6 different girls, all of them hispanic or black).
If you like expensive asian pussy then fine, but do not act as if it somehow safer to new readers.If you believe SWs are a safer bet than an AMP provider, then your post really doesn't deserve a response, so I'll keep it short. You're way off base.
I'm not very experienced with discussion boards and the like, but of late I have been coming here often to stay updated on the sad news of the Providence spa scene.
As I logon and read the daily posts I was thinking that someone is making this all work and convenient for me. Screening, posting and the like.
Since posts are updated very quickly this obviously takes some serious time from a hard working soul who is helping us all out running the mechanics.
I appreciate that behind the scenes effort, especially during dynamic times like now, and thought I might express my gratitute to the person / persons behind the scenes that make this work for all of us who rely on this and the International sister board.
My thanks!
BlueBallsMitch
09-05-12, 10:44
If you believe SWs are a safer bet than an AMP provider, then your post really doesn't deserve a response, so I'll keep it short. You're way off base.I said most sws. Clearly, as with any sex industry, there are trainwrecks.
I try to avoid the more strung out types and so far it has been mostly out of work chicks who don't seem to be hard core users if at all.
It's fine, you want to feel like a big shot, like you are making some high-class, high intellegent choice by going to AMPs.
Newsflash- either way you are paying for used pussy. Either way if you are playing covered you are running the same overall risks. Unregulated market, uncontrollable risks.
Now nevada brothels are a whole different story and I would freely aay they are the safest way to go all around.
Smoke Screen
09-05-12, 12:44
Not that it helps us at all, but todays T&G has an article stating the two girls charged with trafficking had their charges dismissed and are free to go. However, other charges may be coming.
Sorry I'm not able to upload the article.
Went to Lily's this morning to get my cup of Sunny. Went 1st thing this morning. Only one there. Actually needed some upper back work and Sunny didn't disappoint. As I've said before She had some training in Korea. She is a delight to be with always happy and smiling and laughing. She's kind of infectious in a good way. Her TS is always good. Gives just enough teasing. As I stated she gives one of the better massages from an AMP. Before the flip she does a lot of teasing. The HE is always good and strong with her. I would love to have FS with her. I think she would be dynamite. She's only about 5ft and probably about 100lbs. Nice little body A cups. Some providers should takes lessons from her. While at Lily's heard a few guys come in. When I left there were 5 vehicles in lot most from RI
For those of you who have never been to a standard AMP there is no BJ, FS etc. The girls are under strict rules, some have gone back to NY cause they are getting scared about the LE. If you do get something more don't post on here. The owners follow these forums and will send the girls packing. Lily's and NMS are standard service only. I do miss 1021 and Candy and Ruby though.
Be safe and careful out there.
Member #4247
09-05-12, 14:51
Hey M's.
I just want to give my 2 cents on this AMP disapperance issue, I know some of you will say what are you talking about or other negetive remarks. I think the reason we are seeing so many AMP closing is because we aren't being disceret. I mean we see 9 cars in one parking lot and we have this forum, in which we all glorify our trophy moments with whatever girl. If we use more discretion on what type of services we get and whatch the content maybe leo will back off. I believe Leo has a eye on this forum, and a hard on to make us pay for it.
MuffyTheDiver
09-05-12, 17:33
Hey M's.
I just want to give my 2 cents on this AMP disapperance issue, I know some of you will say what are you talking about or other negetive remarks. I think the reason we are seeing so many AMP closing is because we aren't being disceret. I mean we see 9 cars in one parking lot and we have this forum, in which we all glorify our trophy moments with whatever girl. If we use more discretion on what type of services we get and whatch the content maybe leo will back off. I believe Leo has a eye on this forum, and a hard on to make us pay for it.I agree to a point. I have always tried to keep my post a bit vague in details and never talk about the private part of my meetings. I have decided moving forward that I will not post anymore info regarding services or what I did as we all know what goes on. I think LE does watch this forum along with other sites but they already know whats going on in these AMPs. They don't need us to tell them. I am positive that there are a few LE who are customers also. This appears to be pressure from above LE as I know its happening all up and down the North East. The Mamasan I know says Conn and Manhattan has gone through very similar pressures. These things happen every so often, especially around elections time. Hopefully things will start to get back to normal in the next few weeks.
I'm keeping all my more private info in PM only with very well known seniors from here on out! Sorry but thats the way its got to be!
Muffy
Smoke Screen
09-05-12, 20:12
For those of you who have never been to a standard AMP there is no BJ, FS etc. The girls are under strict rules, some have gone back to NY cause they are getting scared about the LE. If you do get something more don't post on here. The owners follow these forums and will send the girls packing. Lily's and NMS are standard service only. I do miss 1021 and Candy and Ruby though.NMS & Lily's should also be included in the do not post, HE or not. No need in rubbing anyone's nose in it. Better left unsaid.
Sr Diablito
09-06-12, 07:37
Just came back from a 2 week vacation to discover that our favorite places are closed. Unbelievable. I was beginning to think that Providence was immune. Oh well, there are at least 100 countries in the world where it is perfectly legal. What we save in Providence we can spend abroad. Maybe I should move to Thailand or Flushing. Seriously, there are some real bargains available in the Dominican or Costa Rica. Like legal $30 sessions! Keep on truckin'
Went to Lily's this morning to get my cup of Sunny. Went 1st thing this morning. Only one there. Actually needed some upper back work and Sunny didn't disappoint. As I've said before She had some training in Korea. She is a delight to be with always happy and smiling and laughing. She's kind of infectious in a good way. Her TS is always good. Gives just enough teasing. As I stated she gives one of the better massages from an AMP. Before the flip she does a lot of teasing. The HE is always good and strong with her. I would love to have FS with her. I think she would be dynamite. She's only about 5ft and probably about 100lbs. Nice little body A cups. Some providers should takes lessons from her. While at Lily's heard a few guys come in. When I left there were 5 vehicles in lot most from RI.
For those of you who have never been to a standard AMP there is no BJ, FS etc. The girls are under strict rules, some have gone back to NY cause they are getting scared about the LE. If you do get something more don't post on here. The owners follow these forums and will send the girls packing. Lily's and NMS are standard service only. I do miss 1021 and Candy and Ruby though.
Be safe and careful out there.The parking lot was full on both sides of the building. I decided to come back another time. I noticed the 6 ft fence around the parking lot. Not sure what thats for as there was no gate. I always hit the curb when I try to pull in. I never saw the parking lot that full.
Member #4868
09-06-12, 19:45
Re-open under new name?
http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/charming-friendly-asian-21/5755812
Sr Diablito
09-06-12, 20:01
I understand that the police can sting a masseuse by offering money for sex, but I don't understand how they can arrest a customer for going for a massage. I know there have been no arrests of consumers in RI, but there apparently have been in other states.
If we have a cop, lawyer or judge on our forum, would you enlighten us please.
AsianLPGAfan
09-06-12, 21:03
I understand that the police can sting a masseuse by offering money for sex, but I don't understand how they can arrest a customer for going for a massage. I know there have been no arrests of consumers in RI, but there apparently have been in other states.
If we have a cop, lawyer or judge on our forum, would you enlighten us please.STFU.
JoiLove's site has an interesting link on "staying silent".
I am no legal expert but some of the basic info makes sense.
Gents and ladies, this is all political. We are involved in a hard primary between 'C" and "G", and then the winner still has to face republican contender. Instead of waiting until he actually enters the race, the quick "clean up" of the office has now begun. No women or johns have been arrested, instead they have been given their walking orders. Close this shit down while we are trying to look legitimate. Go on vacation, go back to Flushings, NY, do what ever it is you do except offer intimate massages.
Soon, after the election cycle, these places will begin to re-open. They may be better, they may be worse. Either way, there will likely be more of them. It comes in some town and cities that some business practices are accepted above others. The relaxation of men is one of those that will soon not be exterminated.
I personally think it is best, for all parties, to clear house for a bit.
Everything, like the economy, is cyclic, and the massage industry will certainly improve. I hope it it will actually improve.
Good time to clean house.
For those of you that can't handle the change in policy, you still have back pages, as well as some of the better strip clubs in RI. Look around, find a new secret girl who you won't want to tell anyone else about. For guys that are experiencing serious "delirium tremors" because of this massage parlor change, I recommend you go to cheaters. One drink minimum and you always have to have a drink. You "WILL" MEET A GIRL AT THE BAR. She will not offer a shower, or massage, but a "private dance". These take place is a private room, they are secure, cost 35 bucks to get into, and inside, and what happens, is up to you and the dancer. The prices are generally low. Worth a shot.
Good luck mongers.
Rebrobate218
09-06-12, 23:31
Soon, after the election cycle, these places will begin to re-open. They may be better, they may be worse. Either way, there will likely be more of them. It comes in some town and cities that some business practices are accepted above others. The relaxation of men is one of those that will soon not be exterminated.
Everything, like the economy, is cyclic, and the massage industry will certainly improve. I hope it it will actually improve.I will second this. I used to live in RI and thought the AMPs were great. I did not visit them often because if you in RI, Providence specifically, it was so easy to meet women. The northern part of the state I live in now used to have the worst AMPs of anywhere. I won't mention the states name. But we have a fat governor, the world's second best football team plays here but does not have the state's name. The AMPs here are pretty good. They would rival Providence on every level, and it have never been legal here. So I think things will get back to normal with some modifications. They call it the oldest profession for a reason.
Member #4247
09-07-12, 00:34
I understand that the police can sting a masseuse by offering money for sex, but I don't understand how they can arrest a customer for going for a massage. I know there have been no arrests of consumers in RI, but there apparently have been in other states.
If we have a cop, lawyer or judge on our forum, would you enlighten us please.For what I understand that most Massage parlor get busted because they offer extra service after a specific dollar amount has been set. It would be hard to prosecute a patron because there is no evidence per say, unless the massager gives such information. If a Leo enters a room and your naked and she's not they can't prosecute you. If you and her are naked they can hold you and hope that fear will rat you out, unless there is some form of record (I. E. A set up or a bugging).
Most of the tactic the Leo use is deportation, and fear. They try to find evidence where ever possible like large somes of money or remains of used covers.
There was a good tv show put on by Mnscbs a few years ago, about the massage palor industries.
I am not a lawyer, but only giving my opion
Gents and ladies, this is all political. We are involved in a hard primary between 'C" and "G", and then the winner still has to face republican contender. Instead of waiting until he actually enters the race, the quick "clean up" of the office has now begun. No women or johns have been arrested, instead they have been given their walking orders. Close this shit down while we are trying to look legitimate. Go on vacation, go back to Flushings, NY, do what ever it is you do except offer intimate massages.
Soon, after the election cycle, these places will begin to re-open. They may be better, they may be worse. Either way, there will likely be more of them. It comes in some town and cities that some business practices are accepted above others. The relaxation of men is one of those that will soon not be exterminated.I'm confused. Why would a quick "clean up" be ordered for a US House race?
If the mayor of Providence or the governor of Rhode Island was up for re-election, sure, I could follow the logic. But I think that this quick "clean up" and the upcoming election are unrelated. Which could be good or bad, maybe things will be back to normal before early November, but then again things could stay like this even longer.
For what I understand that most Massage parlor get busted because they offer extra service after a specific dollar amount has been set. It would be hard to prosecute a patron because there is no evidence per say, unless the massager gives such information. If a Leo enters a room and your naked and she's not they can't prosecute you. If you and her are naked they can hold you and hope that fear will rat you out, unless there is some form of record (I. E. A set up or a bugging).
Most of the tactic the Leo use is deportation, and fear. They try to find evidence where ever possible like large somes of money or remains of used covers.
There was a good tv show put on by Mnscbs a few years ago, about the massage palor industries.
I am not a lawyer, but only giving my opionHttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
Everyone should watch this video, several times if necessary, until it really sinks in.
Sr Diablito
09-07-12, 16:53
Http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wXkI4t7nuc
Everyone should watch this video, several times if necessary, until it really sinks in.Excellent video. Everyone needs to see this!
Stressed Out
09-07-12, 17:48
Re-open under new name?
http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/charming-friendly-asian-21/5755812I've seen it being called this for awhile now. At least since the beginning of summer. I don't think it has closed at all.
VilunyaChert
09-07-12, 19:48
I don't think it has closed at all.A couple of mornings ago I dropped by there to check out the situation. It was a little too early in the AM for them to be open for business, but the front door was being held open by a yellow plastic bucket. Didn't have time to wait, but I'm pretty sure they weren't just airing the place out while keeping it closed.
Coming into Prov today and drove by DT. Out of habit looked up to see the OPEN sign turned on. I know for a fact that it wasn't the last time I went by. Anyone know if its business as usual? I will go find out and report but that will still be a week away.
A N I M A L
09-08-12, 00:07
Really simple. The LE can intimidate you to say some thing to incriminate yourself. Say nothing. Won't be scared. I had a massage. That's it.
Like the video said the more you talk the worse it is. I`m sick and tired of being told what to do, where to go. Get a life. If the LE does something against the law prosecute them and take there job, pension. Ect. The LE knows the law so if they break the law its worse for them and they will be dealt with harsher than a civilian. They know that and push it to the limit but they know when to back off. Protect your self. I don`t know why they are only targeting AMP`s. That`s not cleaning things up. What about strip clubs. How many times do the LE get called there for a fight or drugs Ect. Alot. They should start there if they want to make a point. It makes you think why they don`t. I`m just saying we live in the USA why do we have to cower when we hear LE is here. There title is to "protect and serve" they need to get there priorities straight. Go after criminals who are killing and robbing us not women who pamper us.
Stay safe. Don`t cower.
Smoke Screen
09-08-12, 07:54
Coming into Prov today and drove by DT. Out of habit looked up to see the OPEN sign turned on. I know for a fact that it wasn't the last time I went by. Anyone know if its business as usual? I will go find out and report but that will still be a week away.They are back to advertising again. Many ads on BP, looks promising but I tend to be an optimist.
I know I may be way off base on this one. The crackdown has really started when that guy went to the LE and said he was sexually assulated at NMS. It seems to me when all this has really started I maybe wrong but just adding my 2 cents.
LivnLifeVIP
09-08-12, 16:18
The parking lot was full on both sides of the building. I decided to come back another time. I noticed the 6 ft fence around the parking lot. Not sure what thats for as there was no gate. I always hit the curb when I try to pull in. I never saw the parking lot that full.I haven't seen the gate, but it could be to inhibit surveillance. NMS has the lattace as a screen since it moved.
Did you guys read the article in today's Prov Journal about them closing 13 of 15 spas in Prov. Supposedly this was an ongoing investigation after they stopped a courier with 50 grand in cash from One. Well whatever. I don't know about you but I really feel safe in Providence with all those 90-100 lb Koreans gone. I may ever stop carrying now (legally). Not
LivnLifeVIP
09-08-12, 16:28
I agree to a point. I have always tried to keep my post a bit vague in details and never talk about the private part of my meetings. I have decided moving forward that I will not post anymore info regarding services or what I did as we all know what goes on. I think LE does watch this forum along with other sites but they already know whats going on in these AMPs. They don't need us to tell them. I am positive that there are a few LE who are customers also. This appears to be pressure from above LE as I know its happening all up and down the North East. The Mamasan I know says Conn and Manhattan has gone through very similar pressures. These things happen every so often, especially around elections time. Hopefully things will start to get back to normal in the next few weeks.
I'm keeping all my more private info in PM only with very well known seniors from here on out! Sorry but thats the way its got to be!
MuffyI don't think they are just reading these types of forums to gather leads on criminal behavior, I think this could be used to intimidate someone to talk. It's unlikely that these posts could be used as direct evidence in court as it is hear-say. However, maybe someone gets busted and denies everything and the cops show them a bunch of posts and say "We know what goes on here. We've got you. Come clean and stay out of jail." If nothing else, it may provide more info they can use to bump up charges. Maybe this info is enough to get a warrant.
It's interesting to note that when you join another site, you agree that everything you post fictitious. There's probably a very good legal reason for that.
LivnLifeVIP
09-08-12, 16:39
I understand that the police can sting a masseuse by offering money for sex, but I don't understand how they can arrest a customer for going for a massage. I know there have been no arrests of consumers in RI, but there apparently have been in other states.
If we have a cop, lawyer or judge on our forum, would you enlighten us please.Well I was in an AMP in another state when it got raided. That sucked. I'm naked on a table, just after a HE and the doorbell rings. Someone opened the door and it was just the sound of boots. Everyone was in black, with helmets, lights, and full gear. I didn't see any weapons drawn. They are definitely searching for possible criminal activity, and I think they would have busted me if I would have said the wrong thing. (e. G. If I would have said,"Yes, officer. I saw the box of condoms under the table," or something similar that could have shown intent.) They just remained silent. You're picture may be taken as evidence, even if you are not arrested. There's a lot of details to the story, but don't want to give them in a public venue.
Stay safe. Stay aware.
Muff Daddy
09-08-12, 16:42
Mr. Ape, Sophia has my number and I'm sure many other good "$$" loyal patrons of her mp. She called me a week before the raids and then again prior to their exit.
I was there when most thought that it was closed. So prove me wrong or zip your banana eating lips. Yes they will return after the coast is clear. I'm sure it will be a different.
Arrangement also. Daddy OUT!
Not true.
The girls left first with both Mamasan and the Kitchen Mama staying behind for a couple of days. After hearing the news about the other spas the girls were too scared to stay.
LivnLifeVIP
09-08-12, 16:59
I know I may be way off base on this one. The crackdown has really started when that guy went to the LE and said he was sexually assulated at NMS. It seems to me when all this has really started I maybe wrong but just adding my 2 cents.Considering the comments that neither the governor, nor the mayor are up for election and the timing, this is as good a guess as any. Does anyone know if this is going to court? I did a federal docket search for this case. None showed up.
For the past two (2) years, Heavenly Hands (HH) was the place for me. They had four (4) girls, they knew me, I was treated like a king there from all four. I went every week, so, I was a good customer. Two showers one before and one after plus two happy endings as well. Never had reason to go elsewhere.
I was treated great. Now HH closed, never to reopen. I am in contact with my friends as I have all their cell numbers. They are not coming back. Two weeks age on Aug 30th at 8:00 PM. Black pick up there there throwing stuff away.
On 8/23 went to NMS. It was ok. Nothing special. Left satisfied. Next week. On August 30th, went to Wanskuck. They have one boy and one girl. (She said some guys like a hard rub, ok = whatever, not me and. Each to their own). She said come now, business very very slow. I went right over ther and had girl and not bad left happy. Tried this week, Wanskunk, on Thursday September 6th, at 10:15PM. They were closed all lights off and a Providence Police Car parked right in front of door. I could not believe it.
Called Far East. I had ot get their new number from information, & mama said we closing at 11:00 too late. Went to Harmony and had Suzy. Terrible got a happy but shorted 25 minutes and lousy bad rub. Will not return.
Things are indeed very bad for us mongers.
A N I M A L
09-08-12, 18:33
Did you guys read the article in today's Prov Journal about them closing 13 of 15 spas in Prov. Supposedly this was an ongoing investigation after they stopped a courier with 50 grand in cash from One. Well whatever. I don't know about you but I really feel safe in Providence with all those 90-100 lb Koreans gone. I may ever stop carrying now (legally). NotI looked all over the place and can`t find any thing on this. You sure it was today!
I looked all over the place and can`t find any thing on this. You sure it was today!I tried too but the website limits your access. You may be able to find it tomorrow or a week from now or not at all. Paying a buck for that paper is something I cannot bring myself to do.
I looked all over the place and can`t find any thing on this. You sure it was today!Animal the article was on the second page A2, top left hand corner. Even my SO saw it.
Yellowfever023
09-09-12, 08:27
Mr. Ape, Sophia has my number and I'm sure many other good "$$" loyal patrons of her mp. She called me a week before the raids and then again prior to their exit.
I was there when most thought that it was closed. So prove me wrong or zip your banana eating lips. Yes they will return after the coast is clear. I'm sure it will be a different.
Arrangement also. Daddy OUT!This has nothing to do with YA's post. I have been in contact with Sophia also and got the same story as YA. So the bottom line is you are saying that she is that she has lied to us. It is your word against her's, not your word against YA. I have been a regular here for 3 years two times a week so why would Sophia lie to me and not accept my business? Remember Muff daddy you are the unknown part of this equation.
Gogglz Paesano
09-09-12, 10:53
http://www.yuvutu.com/index.php?name=Video&op=view&video_id=8807
I wore a rubber though. Not like this fool.
Mr. Ape, Sophia has my number and I'm sure many other good "$$" loyal patrons of her mp. She called me a week before the raids and then again prior to their exit.
I was there when most thought that it was closed. So prove me wrong or zip your banana eating lips. Yes they will return after the coast is clear. I'm sure it will be a different.
Arrangement also. Daddy OUT! You posted on 9/1/12 that they never closed and were UTR. I am simply stating that the girls had already returned to NY by then and that the spa was indeed closed. You were giving everyone the impression that they never closed at all.
I don't think they are just reading these types of forums to gather leads on criminal behavior, I think this could be used to intimidate someone to talk. It's unlikely that these posts could be used as direct evidence in court as it is hear-say. However, maybe someone gets busted and denies everything and the cops show them a bunch of posts and say "We know what goes on here. We've got you. Come clean and stay out of jail." If nothing else, it may provide more info they can use to bump up charges. Maybe this info is enough to get a warrant.
It's interesting to note that when you join another site, you agree that everything you post fictitious. There's probably a very good legal reason for that.So long as a place is licensed and you aren't caught in any sex act, you were there for a legit massage, and that's all. By the way, for those of you who own a smartphone, they have a voice record feature. If LE ever raids a joint and you pulled for questioning first thing I would do is grab my iPhone and discreetly hit the record button. Record anything they say, it may be the one thing that helps save your hide.
Rei Haragoma
09-09-12, 11:47
I think I should mention an episode regarding LE, lest we all become too relaxed, and think that all we have to do is sit tight and wait for the dust to settle. LE is active, and working hard to close all of the AMPs; just as the captain of the police force said that he would do.
Had occasion to visit my favorite, NMS the other night. Been going there a long time. I'm fairly friendly with the papasan.
Seems LE paid a visit during the day last week, and went nuts-o. Wanted to see all the customers and girls' I'd's. Harassed everyone verbally. Really was abusive; and most likely everything he did lies within the grey area of the law. And, or course, he knows who ya going to complain to?
As a result, most of the girls have left.
A friend reports the same goings-on at Lily's as well. LE has a paradox: neither AMP is full-service, and they know that; so existing prostitution laws can't be applied. The plan of attack seems to be harassment; and just as nasty as they can make it.
My opinion is that we need to support these two places more than ever, as loyal customers; being unafraid of the big snarling dog with the thunderous bark. If we don't support them, the captain will get his way, and we will lose another avenue of escape from the daily stress we seek to alleviate from time to time.
Lot Lizard
09-09-12, 13:21
Did you guys read the article in today's Prov Journal about them closing 13 of 15 spas in Prov. Supposedly this was an ongoing investigation after they stopped a courier with 50 grand in cash from One. Well whatever. I don't know about you but I really feel safe in Providence with all those 90-100 lb Koreans gone. I may ever stop carrying now (legally). NotWell that explains why OS closed back in May.
I think I should mention an episode regarding LE, lest we all become too relaxed, and think that all we have to do is sit tight and wait for the dust to settle. LE is active, and working hard to close all of the AMPs; just as the captain of the police force said that he would do.
Had occasion to visit my favorite, NMS the other night. Been going there a long time. I'm fairly friendly with the papasan.
Seems LE paid a visit during the day last week, and went nuts-o. Wanted to see all the customers and girls' I'd's. Harassed everyone verbally. Really was abusive; and most likely everything he did lies within the grey area of the law. And, or course, he knows who ya going to complain to?
As a result, most of the girls have left.
A friend reports the same goings-on at Lily's as well. LE has a paradox: neither AMP is full-service, and they know that; so existing prostitution laws can't be applied. The plan of attack seems to be harassment; and just as nasty as they can make it.
My opinion is that we need to support these two places more than ever, as loyal customers; being unafraid of the big snarling dog with the thunderous bark. If we don't support them, the captain will get his way, and we will lose another avenue of escape from the daily stress we seek to alleviate from time to time.I did not know that RI relocated to communist China. Since when can LE just bust into a place of business without probable cause? Massage is not illegal. Wonder which office the chief is running for in Nov.
I did not know that RI relocated to communist China. Since when can LE just bust into a place of business without probable cause? Massage is not illegal. Wonder which office the chief is running for in Nov.Funny you should say "massage". I called DT a few days ago along with a couple of other places just to see if they were open. I asked the girl who answered the phone at DT "how much for your massage?" even though I know the answer, but have no money to go. Anyway the girl said "massage? We don't do that here". I was dumbstruck for a second there, so then I asked "do you do body rubs?" which she said they did and what the price would be. This was the big issue years ago when they were cracking down. In RI you need a license to do massage but not body-rubs. So any place offer massages or implying massage without a license I guess would be subject to LE harassment and or fines. Just my opinion though.
I did not know that RI relocated to communist China. Since when can LE just bust into a place of business without probable cause? Massage is not illegal. Wonder which office the chief is running for in Nov.You're talking about a spa that advertises in the adult classified section of the Providence Phoenix as well as the "adult" escort listings of Backpage. Sounds like probable cause to me. I've been jonesing for some Asian persuasion but right now it's not worth the chance. Don't confuse being ARRESTED with being CHARGED. A police officer doesn't need evidence to arrest someone, they need evidence for someone to be charged and convicted in a court of law. If a police officer has probable cause, you can be arrested. If there is a place where they have probable cause of illegal activities, like an AMP or crack house and they obtain a warrant for a raid, anyone in that place at the time of the raid can be arrested for suspicion of prostitution or suspicion of controlled substances. Just because they don't see you getting a HE doesn't prevent you from being cuffed and hauled away. You might not be convicted and you might actually walk out of court a free man, but you can still be arrested, with a chance of ending up in the Projo or evening news.
I believe the key phrase is "and they have a warrant" which it does not sound like they did. Furthermore, I could be wrong, but I believe NMS is licensed for massage and not body rubs.
If you think they had probable cause because they post in the adult section, why was no one arrested? If posting in the adult section is cause then everyone who walks into a strip club is subject to arrest as we all know what goes on in PVDs finest SC's. Speaking of which, there are more dangerous things going on in the strip clubs, why are they not being harrassed?
I think this is one zealot abusing the law because he can.
I still say, sad day for civil liberties.
ND
I think I should mention an episode regarding LE, lest we all become too relaxed, and think that all we have to do is sit tight and wait for the dust to settle. LE is active, and working hard to close all of the AMPs; just as the captain of the police force said that he would do.
Had occasion to visit my favorite, NMS the other night. Been going there a long time. I'm fairly friendly with the papasan.
Seems LE paid a visit during the day last week, and went nuts-o. Wanted to see all the customers and girls' I'd's. Harassed everyone verbally. Really was abusive; and most likely everything he did lies within the grey area of the law. And, or course, he knows who ya going to complain to?
As a result, most of the girls have left.
A friend reports the same goings-on at Lily's as well. LE has a paradox: neither AMP is full-service, and they know that; so existing prostitution laws can't be applied. The plan of attack seems to be harassment; and just as nasty as they can make it.
My opinion is that we need to support these two places more than ever, as loyal customers; being unafraid of the big snarling dog with the thunderous bark. If we don't support them, the captain will get his way, and we will lose another avenue of escape from the daily stress we seek to alleviate from time to time.I was at Lily's last Tues and I was talking to mamasan (Venus) about what's going on and she said so far they haven't been bothered. I was told by one of the girls that two had left for NY. As for lily's and NMS I think you should be pretty safe since those girls never take any part of there clothes off. In all the times I've been there and with different girls I've never been asked what I want except what kind of pressure I wanted. A lot of legit massage therapists will let you go nude. Again the LE could make you nervous if they showed up. Even though they don't have a warrant. Sometimes they are under a lot of pressure from above and act like storm troopers. I agree about the SC's a lot more goes on there, all you have to do is sit an watch who goes where. I think the owners of these clubs have a lot more pull than the AMP's do.
Of course this is only my opinion.
Rei Haragoma
09-09-12, 20:34
I was at Lily's last Tues and I was talking to mamasan (Venus) about what's going on and she said so far they haven't been bothered. I was told by one of the girls that two had left for NY. As for lily's and NMS I think you should be pretty safe since those girls never take any part of there clothes off. In all the times I've been there and with different girls I've never been asked what I want except what kind of pressure I wanted. A lot of legit massage therapists will let you go nude. Again the LE could make you nervous if they showed up. Even though they don't have a warrant. Sometimes they are under a lot of pressure from above and act like storm troopers. I agree about the SC's a lot more goes on there, all you have to do is sit an watch who goes where. I think the owners of these clubs have a lot more pull than the AMP's do.
Of course this is only my opinion.Your opinion is right!
Insofar as the SC's are concerned, before I wised up and realized how much $ I was wasting for FS (did not know about MP's in those days,) any club I went to offered FS. From posts I've read, most still do. I also agree with you that the owners have more clout than the owners of the AMP's. I think you'll find that the more prominent clubs are owned by some powerful people that have connections, and they have some influential clientele as well. As my dad used to say "it ain't what you know, but WHO you know."
Rei Haragoma
09-09-12, 20:47
I believe the key phrase is "and they have a warrant" which it does not sound like they did. Furthermore, I could be wrong, but I believe NMS is licensed for massage and not body rubs.
If you think they had probable cause because they post in the adult section, why was no one arrested? If posting in the adult section is cause then everyone who walks into a strip club is subject to arrest as we all know what goes on in PVDs finest SC's. Speaking of which, there are more dangerous things going on in the strip clubs, why are they not being harrassed?
I think this is one zealot abusing the law because he can.
I still say, sad day for civil liberties.
NDYou are correct. NMS Papasan told me some time ago their license is for massage. I could be wrong, but I never heard of any licensing authority anywhere issuing a license for "body rubs." Might not be a bad idea though. Let's partition our local licensing board to create this category. It's long overdue!
No warrant was shown.
I agree with you as well about more dangerous things going on in the SC's. It's the main reason I left, and began to utilize the AMP's. My only regret is that I did not know of the MP's first.
He must be a zealot, or internal pressure is on him as well. Even though he has a pretty good rank, there's always a general with more stars around.
As I mentioned before, the SC owners know more people in high places. For the time being. This may change!
Fly Dangler
09-09-12, 21:03
You're talking about a spa that advertises in the adult classified section of the Providence Phoenix as well as the "adult" escort listings of Backpage. Sounds like probable cause to me. I've been jonesing for some Asian persuasion but right now it's not worth the chance. Don't confuse being ARRESTED with being CHARGED. A police officer doesn't need evidence to arrest someone, they need evidence for someone to be charged and convicted in a court of law. If a police officer has probable cause, you can be arrested. If there is a place where they have probable cause of illegal activities, like an AMP or crack house and they obtain a warrant for a raid, anyone in that place at the time of the raid can be arrested for suspicion of prostitution or suspicion of controlled substances. Just because they don't see you getting a HE doesn't prevent you from being cuffed and hauled away. You might not be convicted and you might actually walk out of court a free man, but you can still be arrested, with a chance of ending up in the Projo or evening news.My bet is that you're not a lawyer, but maybe you stayed at a Holiday Inn Express? Maybe a trip to a good legal dictionary for the meaning of the term "false arrest" and the criminal and civil ramifications of it might be worthwhile.
As others here have suggested if you're in a place that gets raided keep your mouth shut IOT protect your 4th and 5th Ammendment rights. About 20 years ago I was in a Southern California AMP when a raid went down and the only thing I said was that I wasn't going to say anything without legal representation. LE seemed both pissed and flustered by this, but let me go saying they couldn't detain and question me without probable cause.
Muff Daddy
09-09-12, 22:16
This has nothing to do with YA's post. I have been in contact with Sophia also and got the same story as YA. So the bottom line is you are saying that she is that she has lied to us. It is your word against her's, not your word against YA. I have been a regular here for 3 years two times a week so why would Sophia lie to me and not accept my business? Remember Muff daddy you are the unknown part of this equation.Dude. I don't know what you are trying to say. Call up Sophia and tell her about your customer loyalty issues. I've got Sherlock Ape and You hawking me now. Sometimes small favors are asked and that's nobody's business especially yours. So myob, You and the Ape man. I'm done with the Abbott and Costello interrogation.
A N I M A L
09-09-12, 22:32
I agree! We need to support these 2 Spa`s. Don`t forget no one is above the law. If the police act in a criminal manner there are many places to go to report them. One is the I A office with the PPD they are the watch dogs of the own. Also there is the RISP they watch all departments. That`s just to name a few. There is nothing wrong with going into a licenced business. So keep the faith and lets get through this. If we stick together and support these spa`s the LE will eventually go away. How many times are they going to have to go to a review board to allocate money to this. Not much longer. We just have to wait them out. Record any thing by LE for evidence. I think we have a larger group on people then they have. I for one am not going away quietly. Keep the post comming with any Idea`s or info.
As always Stay Safe.
A N I M A L
09-09-12, 22:45
Print this out and keep in your wallet. It might be handy for all occasions.
I refuse to consent to any search of my premises, the location of my arrest, my car or effects. I wish to exercise my rights under the 4th. 5th and 6th Amendments to remain silent and to have my attorney present during any questioning or line up. If you ignore my exercise of these rights and attempt to procure a wavier, I wish to confer with my attorney prior to any conversation with law enforcement agents on the subject of waiver.
Gentlemen, and fellow mongers. I have a bit of a different take on what's been happening here in regards to the spas. The goal of those involved is the same, (to close the spas) but there are different methods to effect that. If you have the time or inclination, I would have you read this article,
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/06/warren_fights_image_of_massage.html And the Warren Ohio threads on this forum.
Up until the raids by the Warren Police Dept. And the Ohio Bureau of Investigations and the attorney general of that state around June 1 of this year, Warren was AMP Heaven, to say the least. Now they are all gone, with regards to extras. They were able to do it by getting camera footage of customers entering and leaving, tracking them down by license plates, and getting them to sing by calling them at home or work, and getting them to give affadavits which were used as evidence in court to get the establishments closed as a public nuisance. They even got an attorney, who should have known better, to sing by their tactics, which was to keep calling their homes and businesses until they gave it up.
The raids were highly publicized on TV and the print media, and a list of names and addresses of the men who cooperated were published, but the mongers were given immunity and were not charged. They also gave the owners and providers time to leave the area, by not actually arresting them all at the time of the raid, but saying the investigation was continuing. They were more interested in getting TV footage of the mayor, police chief and others actually boarding up the spas.
My point is that it looks like here, they are not even that interested in doing a big raid, but going around and telling them to shut down, and giving them a chance to get out of town without being charged. I don't think this is anything to do with election year politics, but there is some pressure coming down from somewhere, and the AMPs are being given an opportunity to quietly leave without a lot of publicity, and without a lot of arrests, if the spas comply.
Yellowfever023
09-10-12, 06:29
Dude. I don't know what you are trying to say. Call up Sophia and tell her about your customer loyalty issues. I've got Sherlock Ape and You hawking me now. Sometimes small favors are asked and that's nobody's business especially yours. So myob, You and the Ape man. I'm done with the Abbott and Costello interrogation.You made a post that was BS and you got called on it, bottom line! I imagine that you are well under 6 feet tall it sounds to me that you have little man's disease. You call people names etc. I read thru your 21 posts and there is not a lot of substance in any of them. Napoleonic complexes are very common and any decent therapist can treat it within 8 to 12 months.
Good luck!
Fever
MuffyTheDiver
09-10-12, 06:34
Just a quick note, keep in mind that the Spa owners and the Mamasans are reading this forum along with other forms of media. The report on the "storm troopers" while possibly intended good info and helpful will work against the Spa's returning! Just what LE wants. Bottom line is that the fear outweighs any action from LE. The more we "speculate" and report on whats going on the more we close the door to the Spa's.
Member #4247
09-10-12, 13:25
Just a quick note, keep in mind that the Spa owners and the Mamasans are reading this forum along with other forms of media. The report on the "storm troopers" while possibly intended good info and helpful will work against the Spa's returning! Just what LE wants. Bottom line is that the fear outweighs any action from LE. The more we "speculate" and report on whats going on the more we close the door to the Spa's.I hold heartly agree with Muff, if we start this Bs about what could and couldn't happen we will never get back our lovely ladies. We all acting like a gagle of old hen, STFu and only post should be on the type of service we get from what spa. We don't need to know every frigging sec of what went on in the room (if you need to know pm that person). This is a battle against us and the Harassment Leo has put on our favorite places.
I know I'll piss some of you off, but in the end are you going to give me happy ending (well I hope not).
BlueBallsMitch
09-10-12, 13:47
I know I'll piss some of you off, but in the end are you going to give me happy ending (well I hope not).That would definitly make for an awkward fest to be sure.
Watch Your Six
09-10-12, 23:13
This situation was bound to happen sooner or later. You must make backup plans. I was in DC when LE swooped in and shut 7 places down in the mid 00s.
Some girls were taken in and deported also in Ct. I had numbers of few girls and would find out where they went, usually home or to Manhattan NJ or Philly. If these places do open again they won't be serving up the same menus I'm sure. If they do they won't be around much longer. If Dick Tracy wants them shut they will be whether you rant or not. It's part of life so get over it.
MuffyTheDiver
09-11-12, 07:55
Had a dream that there still were some spa's open other then the HJ shacks. If you don't know what I'm talking about feel free to PM. But you got to be known and trusted! BTW. They not in LaProv.
Muffy
With the current LEO action, things are getting tough. Too bad LEO can't keep busy cracking down on gay bars / clubs. Talk about den of inequity. Maybe that's the answer, reopen spas and call them "Gay Rubs" and no one will bother them. Got to be politically correct you know.
Pussyhunter69
09-11-12, 17:09
Last night on my way to a friends place around 10:20 pm I drove by ABC around. There were no cars in the parking lot but the ABC spa neon sign was on, are they open again?
Gentlemen, and fellow mongers. I have a bit of a different take on what's been happening here in regards to the spas. The goal of those involved is the same, (to close the spas) but there are different methods to effect that. If you have the time or inclination, I would have you read this article,
http://www.cleveland.com/metro/index.ssf/2012/06/warren_fights_image_of_massage.html
And the Warren Ohio threads on this forum.
Up until the raids by the Warren Police Dept. And the Ohio Bureau of Investigations and the attorney general of that state around June 1 of this year, Warren was AMP Heaven, to say the least. Now they are all gone, with regards to extras. They were able to do it by getting camera footage of customers entering and leaving, tracking them down by license plates, and getting them to sing by calling them at home or work, and getting them to give affadavits which were used as evidence in court to get the establishments closed as a public nuisance. They even got an attorney, who should have known better, to sing by their tactics, which was to keep calling their homes and businesses until they gave it up.
The raids were highly publicized on TV and the print media, and a list of names and addresses of the men who cooperated were published, but the mongers were given immunity and were not charged. They also gave the owners and providers time to leave the area, by not actually arresting them all at the time of the raid, but saying the investigation was continuing. They were more interested in getting TV footage of the mayor, police chief and others actually boarding up the spas.
My point is that it looks like here, they are not even that interested in doing a big raid, but going around and telling them to shut down, and giving them a chance to get out of town without being charged. I don't think this is anything to do with election year politics, but there is some pressure coming down from somewhere, and the AMPs are being given an opportunity to quietly leave without a lot of publicity, and without a lot of arrests, if the spas comply.Over 3 months have passed with still no charges have been filed about the allegations of human trafficking, money laundering, drugs, racketeering and prostitution but they are all boarded up and gone forever. This could be a national way of putting them out of business. We didn't call it AMP Heaven for the hell of it, whatever you wanted was available. Good Luck and Happy Mongering.
Last night on my way to a friends place around 10:20 pm I drove by ABC around. There were no cars in the parking lot but the ABC spa neon sign was on, are they open again?One way to find out is to drive in to the parking lot, park, walk up to the door, ring the buzzer and see what happens.
Last night on my way to a friends place around 10:20 pm I drove by ABC around. There were no cars in the parking lot but the ABC spa neon sign was on, are they open again?AFAIK the signed remained on all the time. Yesterday, I had a glimmer of hope when I say the lights on inside and a car (MA plate) parked outside. I called them no one answered. Maybe it was the owners.
There was an article in the letters to the editor section in today's Journal. A women that lives up the hill from NMS stated that she was unhappy that NMS wasn't closed also. She's been trying for three years to get the authorities to close it down. I guess she knows something we don't about what goes on there, Nothing!
Rei Haragoma
09-12-12, 20:51
There was an article in the letters to the editor section in today's Journal. A women that lives up the hill from NMS stated that she was unhappy that NMS wasn't closed also. She's been trying for three years to get the authorities to close it down. I guess she knows something we don't about what goes on there, Nothing!Let's hope that she did not succeed, as I have been trying since late this afternoon and now, into what is approaching 10PM, to get an answer to my fone calls.
All I get is a recorded message to leave name and number (yeah, right!) and they will call back.
I hope this is not a closing scenario!
Fly Dangler
09-12-12, 22:59
Let's hope that she did not succeed, as I have been trying since late this afternoon and now, into what is approaching 10PM, to get an answer to my fone calls.I understand Providence's finest have made more than a few on site visits there hassling the girls and even some customers according to a friend who was stopped and "talked to" by the men in blue as he was leaving after a visit maybe two days ago. Wouldn't be surprised if all the girls threw in the towel and departed for greener pastures with less harrassment. They've also been known to park an empty squad car adjacent to the entrance to the parking lot to discourage visitors.
Fly Dangler
09-13-12, 00:49
Looking back through posts here through the years I found the following, which you might find interesting:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?4067-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=967031&viewfull=1#post967031
MuffyTheDiver
09-13-12, 08:35
Yesterday I was in Attleboro Center passing through, as I sat there at a traffic light for what seemed like an eternity I noticed two Asian girls outside a Nail Salon talking. These two girls were ultra hot one was dressed in tight jeans with a tight white top and actually had her hair dyed blonde and the other was a dark haired beauty dressed in a cute skirt with a tight top also. They were getting tons of looks from cars passing by. This nail salon was in a big building with several doors running along the street for other business's and shops but there was also a door leading upstairs to what looks like apartments. Both the girls left the Nail Salon and proceeded to go in the door to the upstairs apartment area.
So now the Muffy Radar has gone off and I'm very curious, obviously the girls are tied to this Nail Salon in some manner, do they live upstairs? Do they possibly have some other type of work to tend to upstairs? Could just be a fluke or my imagination running wild since the loss of my beloved Spa's or maybe I have stumbled across something here. I do know for a fact that there have been Nail Salons that were fronts for other activities but could this be one, could there be these "Nail Salons" locally that may offer a different kind of "Hand Service". Hmmmmmmm?
These two girls were dressed to play the part for sure.
Muffy
In or out of the business I've found Asians, especially the younger ones, take great pride in their appearance. One used to walk by Sunrise Mills on Valley around noon. Tight top, short skirt, F me boots. She worked there.
They certainly make it hard for us mongers, no pun intended.
And get your nails done & report back to us.
So now the Muffy Radar has gone off and I'm very curious, obviously the girls are tied to this Nail Salon in some manner, do they live upstairs? Do they possibly have some other type of work to tend to upstairs? Could just be a fluke or my imagination running wild since the loss of my beloved Spa's or maybe I have stumbled across something here. I do know for a fact that there have been Nail Salons that were fronts for other activities but could this be one, could there be these "Nail Salons" locally that may offer a different kind of "Hand Service". Hmmmmmmm?
These two girls were dressed to play the part for sure.
Muffy
MuffyTheDiver
09-13-12, 12:26
And get your nails done & report back to us.What color do you think I should get "Funny Man". Trust me I have taken plenty for the team in my life if I do TOFFT as you suggest you can be sure I won't post anything about it here in public especially if there is anything going on other then having my nails painted!
I may just be a lurker jerker, but this guy's got his monger senses always alert and he shares general info with all and specific with the deserving.
Thanks
I started visiting AMPs a dozen years ago, and at that time I found great service in Waterbury Connecticut. Those AMPs were shut down and I happily discovered Providence, which was much more convenient, had a great number of places with liberal policies and a few strip joints for added diversion.
I'm not panicking; I hope that the crackdown is temporary, but if not, where do I go next? What's the closest mecca for AMPs (I'm in Boston)? New York City? Long Island? New Jersey? Montreal?
It may end up being a two day activity (instead of an evening). Drive up to Montreal for an overnight? Has it come to that?
I'd appreciate your advice and thoughts.
Rei Haragoma
09-13-12, 18:13
Yesterday I was in Attleboro Center passing through, as I sat there at a traffic light for what seemed like an eternity I noticed two Asian girls outside a Nail Salon talking. These two girls were ultra hot one was dressed in tight jeans with a tight white top and actually had her hair dyed blonde and the other was a dark haired beauty dressed in a cute skirt with a tight top also. They were getting tons of looks from cars passing by. This nail salon was in a big building with several doors running along the street for other business's and shops but there was also a door leading upstairs to what looks like apartments. Both the girls left the Nail Salon and proceeded to go in the door to the upstairs apartment area.
So now the Muffy Radar has gone off and I'm very curious, obviously the girls are tied to this Nail Salon in some manner, do they live upstairs? Do they possibly have some other type of work to tend to upstairs? Could just be a fluke or my imagination running wild since the loss of my beloved Spa's or maybe I have stumbled across something here. I do know for a fact that there have been Nail Salons that were fronts for other activities but could this be one, could there be these "Nail Salons" locally that may offer a different kind of "Hand Service". Hmmmmmmm?
These two girls were dressed to play the part for sure.
MuffyGeez, I wish I had known that you'd be in my stomping grounds; I would have bought you a java!
Anyway, I work V-E-R-Y close to where you described. I've seen them too, and they are indeed gorgeous.
Attleboro has beat-walking LEO's; I'm quite sure they would know if there is any other work the girls tend to. Our LEO stops by every morning for tea and crumpets, and that area you describe would be his to patrol.
Methinks it not wise to ask; but there are other ways. I'll PM you if info is made known. Discretion, discretion!
Little Tony II
09-13-12, 19:55
I vote for "PINK". In memory of a special friend!
Have fun ;)
Tony :cool:
QUOTE=MuffyTheDiver; 1543468]What color do you think I should get "Funny Man". Trust me I have taken plenty for the team in my life if I do TOFFT as you suggest you can be sure I won't post anything about it here in public especially if there is anything going on other then having my nails painted![/QUOTE]
I may just be a lurker jerker, but this guy's got his monger senses always alert and he shares general info with all and specific with the deserving.
ThanksYou apparently can not pick up on a joke if it smacked you upside the head
Let's hope that she did not succeed, as I have been trying since late this afternoon and now, into what is approaching 10PM, to get an answer to my fone calls.
All I get is a recorded message to leave name and number (yeah, right!) and they will call back.
I hope this is not a closing scenario!I decided to stop by NMS last week, have read about the bs law suit, police harrasement (car parked nearby!). Anyway said screw it and wanted to show a little support for my favorite hobby! Just as I pulled into empty lot, another monger pulled in, I sat back and let him walk in, a respectable wait and then I entered. Brought to room by mama, paid 60 and stripped down, I think it was Julie? Who came along, TS, ok, nothing special, started off with her covering me, but after I dried off I suggested to remove, standard massage, very little teasing, on the flip she continued massage and I did leave happy. I am guessing she was late 30's or so. I have been there 5-6 times, have always seen younger therapist's but looks like times are changing. Seemed a bit reserved but with whats been going on, I understand. All in all still a nice way to spend an hour. 40 tip, asked by papa and mama if all ok, gave me a bottled water and I was on my way.
I plan to return and like I said help support the local economy!
Fuhgetaboudit
09-13-12, 21:09
Carnac's Question: Name 3 things you will encounter when trying to visit an AMP in Providence these days.
The Wait: Stopped by NMS, late afternoon. Papasan said it he would not have anyone available for at least 30 minutes. I did the same thing that I saw the monger do as I arrived. I said no way, and headed down in steps to start my hunt for another place.
The Gate: Hopped over the bridge to Smithfield, and ABC. Locked up as tight as a drum. Another post indicated seeing the Open sign in the window. Yeah, it is there, but, it is not operational. With the sun shining on it just right, it might appear to be lit to some.
The Crazy 8: So, I sauntered over to 8T8. Had not been there for awhile. As always, the place is large and clean. The rub and scrub rooms are big with tall ceilings, so you do not feel claustrophobic. However, I nevered cared for the locker room setup to leave your things in.
What I did like, was the provider who took care of me. Her name is any of the colors between bluish red (purple) and red, of medium to high brightness and of low to moderate saturation. Arm candy for the trip to the TS. Plenty time, no rush. Excellent non-stop rubdown and walk on back. The best massage in ages. Good body, probably high thirties or fortyish with medium makeup. Good communication, so had some funny convo. Hot hot towels just before the flip. Permissions granted, and glad that I stopped by. After the second series of hot towels, she proceeded with a great feet and head rub to end the session. A fun crazy experience. House fee 60, plus tip.
At closing, an actual Carnac Q & A: A: Rub-a-dub-dub. Q: What does a masseuse do to your dub-dub?
MuffyTheDiver
09-14-12, 06:38
I vote for "PINK". In memory of a special friend!
Have fun.
Tony :cool:
QUOTE=MuffyTheDiver; 1543468]What color do you think I should get "Funny Man". Trust me I have taken plenty for the team in my life if I do TOFFT as you suggest you can be sure I won't post anything about it here in public especially if there is anything going on other then having my nails painted![/QUOTE]. Pink was very close to my ATF ever for sure! I would give a left nut to have the all time All Star team back (Pink, Tina, Ruby and Candy). LOL. Well maybe not a left nut, but you get the idea.
. I've meet each one and they were all great providers. They were always upbeat, had great personalities and always made you feel good. I've met with Ruby and Candy more times and had a good relationship with them. They both made me feel special. I know it's their job but some just make you feel that way. Especially when they walk into the room see you and you get that big smile and they practically jump into you arms. I need an Asian fix.
. I've meet each one and they were all great providers. They were always upbeat, had great personalities and always made you feel good. I've met with Ruby and Candy more times and had a good relationship with them. They both made me feel special. I know it's their job but some just make you feel that way. Especially when they walk into the room see you and you get that big smile and they practically jump into you arms. I need an Asian fix.I've met with the girls on numerous occasions and they do make you feel special. Major GFE for me. I will miss them.
AsianLPGAfan
09-15-12, 07:32
Geez, I wish I had known that you'd be in my stomping grounds; I would have bought you a java!
Anyway, I work V-E-R-Y close to where you described. I've seen them too, and they are indeed gorgeous.
Attleboro has beat-walking LEO's; I'm quite sure they would know if there is any other work the girls tend to. Our LEO stops by every morning for tea and crumpets, and that area you describe would be his to patrol.
Methinks it not wise to ask; but there are other ways. I'll PM you if info is made known. Discretion, discretion!Get your nails done the hotties will appreciate the buiz.
Who knows stranger things can happen?
Smoke Screen
09-15-12, 10:39
No, while Pink is an excellent choice, pink is way too feminen for Muffy. I think "Ruby" red is a better fit.
I vote for "PINK". In memory of a special friend!
Have fun.
Tony :cool:
QUOTE=MuffyTheDiver; 1543468]What color do you think I should get "Funny Man". Trust me I have taken plenty for the team in my life if I do TOFFT as you suggest you can be sure I won't post anything about it here in public especially if there is anything going on other then having my nails painted![/QUOTE]
Go to NYC, closer than montreal. Come to Boston if you want 40ish providers and mostly HE.
I started visiting AMPs a dozen years ago, and at that time I found great service in Waterbury Connecticut. Those AMPs were shut down and I happily discovered Providence, which was much more convenient, had a great number of places with liberal policies and a few strip joints for added diversion.
I'm not panicking; I hope that the crackdown is temporary, but if not, where do I go next? What's the closest mecca for AMPs (I'm in Boston)? New York City? Long Island? New Jersey? Montreal?
It may end up being a two day activity (instead of an evening). Drive up to Montreal for an overnight? Has it come to that?
I'd appreciate your advice and thoughts.
Tugboat 5393
09-15-12, 17:01
I've met with the girls on numerous occasions and they do make you feel special. Major GFE for me. I will miss them.Yes the nice way they treat you like a king, hope they return!
Rei Haragoma
09-15-12, 17:46
Go to NYC, closer than montreal. Come to Boston if you want 40ish providers and mostly HE.Yeah, plus which, now you need a passport to go to Montreal.
Rei Haragoma
09-15-12, 17:48
Get your nails done the hotties will appreciate the buiz.
Who knows stranger things can happen?I will have to get my toenails done as well. But, here I am with the same problem: what color? Is there a special "guy" color, or a special "monger" color? If not, should we define one?
Rei Haragoma
09-15-12, 17:52
I've met with the girls on numerous occasions and they do make you feel special. Major GFE for me. I will miss them.You and me, both.
I'm pretty sure most of you will agree with me that the Asian ladies have a special quality about them.
I don't know how much longer I can go on. I am so depressed. I may start looking online soon for a blow-up doll!
AsianLPGAfan
09-16-12, 08:21
The 1021 guys could get either Pink or Ruby red to honor one of our favs.
No color is also fine I ve had pedicures you don't need to get nails painted.
Or if you do get one of these nail babes it can be an opportunity to at least flirt some more about getting your nails painted.
Me I would ask if they can do the patriots flying Elvis
You and me, both.
I'm pretty sure most of you will agree with me that the Asian ladies have a special quality about them.
I don't know how much longer I can go on. I am so depressed. I may start looking online soon for a blow-up doll!Always had a great time in NYC, will have to make a weekly trip there until this predicament boils over. I knew this would happen when I heard about that jerk from Dighton who claimed he was raped by a yo yo.
Curious as to what these girls are doing now? They still need to make $ I have seen a few new asian escort providers advertising and really wnt to try one, they are offering outcall. I lie the idea of the girl coming to me, but if they come with someone I would not feel comfortable with them here in my house or sitting outside during the session.
Anyone experience these providers? Any chance our Spa girls are now doing this service?
BmoonyBoston
09-17-12, 14:09
I've been reading this forum for a while trying to decide which establishment I have the pleasure of visiting first. I have some ideas, but after looking more into 725 branch's tanning salon and "models", I may have found the place. I have not however found any detailed reviews for this location regarding costs. Can someone please let me know if I should expect standard rates and services? I plan on visiting over the holiday week, and will post my first review then. Hopefully first of many!
Thanks in advance.Well I took the plunge shortly after this post (sorry for the delay). I was a bit nervous walking in not really knowing what to expect, but the girl working made it a bit easier. The rates were a bit higher than I expected, so I had to settle for a 15 min modeling session (6). I don't remember the girls name, but she was a 5'5" dirty blonde with cute face. Got the GFE vibe, although I didn't try much else other than what I went for. Room was fairly clean, although the half walls don't offer much in the way of privacy. This girl really made me feel comfortable, talked down tip to standard, and will probably revisit to see other available talent. Sorry for some vagueness, but with he recent events in the area, and this place not getting many reviews, please PM if you're looking for more details.
MuffyTheDiver
09-17-12, 16:03
Curious as to what these girls are doing now? They still need to make $ I have seen a few new asian escort providers advertising and really wnt to try one, they are offering outcall. I lie the idea of the girl coming to me, but if they come with someone I would not feel comfortable with them here in my house or sitting outside during the session.
Anyone experience these providers? Any chance our Spa girls are now doing this service?Well many of the girls who worked the Providence Spa's have moved on to other Spa's in other states that are not having these LE issues. There has been an increase in the amount of "Outcall Asians" in the last few months and I am sure that a few of the girls are working out of an "Agency" that handles this side of the business. I have not seen any reviews concerning any of the Asian outcall girls but would be interested to hear if anyone has tried them out.
Muffy
Curious as to what these girls are doing now? They still need to make $ I have seen a few new asian escort providers advertising and really wnt to try one, they are offering outcall. I lie the idea of the girl coming to me, but if they come with someone I would not feel comfortable with them here in my house or sitting outside during the session.
Anyone experience these providers? Any chance our Spa girls are now doing this service?For more on the subject of Outcalls to your home check the Vegas board "Escort" I think. The discussion is going on right now. Check it out before you make a short term decision with long term consequences. Be safe.
Dog out
Stressed Out
09-17-12, 17:01
The 1021 guys could get either Pink or Ruby red to honor one of our favs.
No color is also fine I ve had pedicures you don't need to get nails painted.
Or if you do get one of these nail babes it can be an opportunity to at least flirt some more about getting your nails painted.
Me I would ask if they can do the patriots flying ElvisIt really is a sad state of affairs when our massage forum has transformed into which color nail Polish to get. But INMHO I still vote for pink in honor of the most precious part of the girls we still dream about!
Been looking for a provider on CL due to the current AMP situation. Found 2, but both were a bust. THE first goes by Angel, set up an appt, she operates out of a hair shop, got there on time, door locked, she didn't answer her phone, I left her a message, waited 15 mins and tried to call again. No answer, she returned my call an hour later and I told her to fuck off, I already made other arrangements.
The second girl actually returned my call while I was waiting for the first. She is in pawt named Hannah, decent apart, ent, she quoted 80 for an hour. She was cute 8/10, nice see-cups, the massage was on an air mattress, she uses way to much lotion, no skills, just rubs, no tease at all, and when all was said and done I asked for extras and she wantedn80 more for a HJ, I said no thanks. She also keep texting during the sesions, after the third time I asked her to shutnoff her phone. My search continues for that UTR provider that can actualy massage and do it sensually with a nice ending.
Member #4247
09-18-12, 13:34
Hey M's This was posted on the Mass Palor forum, by Gogglz paesano.
W sex trafficking charges filed in Oxford massage parlor case
DUDLEY — As expected, the two women who managed an Oxford massage parlor that allegedly doubled as a prostitution house are facing new charges after a judge dismissed their original charges this week.
Warrants were issued out of Dudley District Court today for Lanyun Ma. 42, and Wei Ma. 22, both of Flushing, N. Y, on a count each of trafficking persons for sexual servitude.
Lt. Pi Heseltine of the state police's special service section issued a 10-page affidavit.
A judge on Tuesday dismissed the original charges against the Chinese-born women based on the defense lawyers' motions arguing that insufficient evidence had been presented at a probable cause hearing.
Lt. Heseltine's report said Oxford police in December asked Shawn Croke, an investigator from the Division of Professional Licensure, for help investigating a possible prostitution house 2 Fairlawn Ave, Oxford, purporting to be a therapeutic massage business. Mr. Croke contacted state police.
The parlor had no advertised name at the time. But it had two phone numbers, the report said. Police said they believed prostitutes were being brought in from New York.
In late December, police and investigators went to the parlor to check on employees' licenses.
Lanyun Ma said the business provided massages for $60 for an hour. Mr. Croke identified himself and asked for her license and the license of a second woman, Bi Zhen Zhang of Brooklyn, which he said could not be produced. The women were fined.
Ms. Zhang had been arrested and charged in Quincy in 2009 for selling sexual services, the report said.
Lt. Heseltine said he found two naked men in massage rooms. Both said they were there for a massage.
Lt. Heseltine said he did an online search for advertisements and found backpage. Com posts for 'sensual body rubs. ' The ads were linked to the Oxford site, state police said.
On Jan. 9, troopers installed a pole camera on Fairlawn Avenue facing the side of the building leading to Unit 2.
During the seven-month investigation, from eight to more than 20 men a day made 30- to 60-minute visits to the parlor, police said. Their cars had license plates from as far away as Maine and Vermont, state police said.
Investigators sent a subpoena to the records keeper at backpage. Com. It yielded many ads associated with the Fairlawn Avenue address. The invoices identified Wei Ma as the user. She was also the account holder of the debit card, email and phone number used to place the ads, investigators said.
On Feb. 1, investigators monitoring the parlor found a Toyota Camry out front registered to Wei Ma. The car was seen coming and going from the parlor.
Two Asian women were followed in the car to the Econo Lodge in Northboro on Feb. 9, state police said.
The next day, Northboro police did an independent prostitution investigation at the motel. Wei Meng was charged with offering sex for a fee, having posted an advertisement on backpage. Com under 'Worcester escorts. ' She allegedly used a phone number linked to the Oxford investigation.
On March 8, after surveillance footage showed an Asian woman taking trash from the Oxford business, a state trooper removed it and had it tested. A lab analysis found the contents included seminal fluid and paraphernalia 'consistent with a house of prostitution and sexual conduct for fee. '
On March 23, Lanyun Ma was seen on a bank video in New York depositing $6, 000 into a business account for 2 Fairlawn Ave.
On Aug. 9, police stopped customers leaving 2 Fairlawn Ave, and they allegedly admitted they had paid for sexual services there.
Police then searched the property and seized $3, 000 and ledgers indicating dates of services and money paid by customers. A chemist from the state police crime lab confirmed the presence of seminal fluid.
Lanyun Ma admitted she and Wei Ma managed the business, but denied engaging in sexual conduct. She said the employees were from New York and their length of stays varied.
Investigators said they believe 300 W. Main St, Northboro, was planned as the duo's second massage parlor.
Lawyer Michael Erlich, who represents Lanyun Ma, and lawyer Kenneth P. Canty, who represents Wei Ma, said earlier this week they were bracing for the new charges against their clients.
A court clerk said the women can either turn themselves in at the court or wait to be brought in by police.
http://www.telegram.com/article/2012.120909759/1116
I am not trying to stir up the pot, but if we can see a trace or maybe make a lead to the situation, we could take the appropriate detours to combat the losses.
Thanks Gogglz for the info
Prometheus77
09-18-12, 14:32
Well I took the plunge shortly after this post (sorry for the delay). I was a bit nervous walking in not really knowing what to expect, but the girl working made it a bit easier. The rates were a bit higher than I expected, so I had to settle for a 15 min modeling session (6). I don't remember the girls name, but she was a 5'5" dirty blonde with cute face. Got the GFE vibe, although I didn't try much else other than what I went for. Room was fairly clean, although the half walls don't offer much in the way of privacy. This girl really made me feel comfortable, talked down tip to standard, and will probably revisit to see other available talent. Sorry for some vagueness, but with he recent events in the area, and this place not getting many reviews, please PM if you're looking for more details.From your description, it sounds like you saw Jezellle. If you went before 4:30 pm on a Mon, Wed, or Fri, then it was almost definitely her. She's a sweetheart.
Anyway, I've been to 725 many times and I've never had a "bad" experience. There was one occasion where the girl I saw didn't offer the level of service I was looking for, which was a disappointment (especially since she was REALLY cute, LOL). But she was still nice, and that's only happened once.
Anyway, it's not necessarily the best value around. You do pay a premium for the convenience. But I doubt you'll have any complaints about the girls or the service you receive there.
Freaking worthless motherless working girl pig cops harass us but the drug dealers, the murderers and the real criminals continue to run the streets. Pussy ***** union pigs, I hate the police whith a choice between the thug on the street and a police pig I'd choose the thug on yhe street.
Hey M's This was posted on the Mass Palor forum, by Gogglz paesano.
W sex trafficking charges filed in Oxford massage parlor case
DUDLEY — As expected, the two women who managed an Oxford massage parlor that allegedly doubled as a prostitution house are facing new charges after a judge dismissed their original charges this week.
Warrants were issued out of Dudley District Court today for Lanyun Ma. 42, and Wei Ma. 22, both of Flushing, N. Y, on a count each of trafficking persons for sexual servitude.
Lt. Pi Heseltine of the state police's special service section issued a 10-page affidavit.
A judge on Tuesday dismissed the original charges against the Chinese-born women based on the defense lawyers' motions arguing that insufficient evidence had been presented at a probable cause hearing.
Lt. Heseltine's report said Oxford police in December asked Shawn Croke, an investigator from the Division of Professional Licensure, for help investigating a possible prostitution house 2 Fairlawn Ave, Oxford, purporting to be a therapeutic massage business. Mr. Croke contacted state police.
The parlor had no advertised name at the time. But it had two phone numbers, the report said. Police said they believed prostitutes were being brought in from New York.
In late December, police and investigators went to the parlor to check on employees' licenses.
Lanyun Ma said the business provided massages for $60 for an hour. Mr. Croke identified himself and asked for her license and the license of a second woman, Bi Zhen Zhang of Brooklyn, which he said could not be produced. The women were fined.
Ms. Zhang had been arrested and charged in Quincy in 2009 for selling sexual services, the report said.
Lt. Heseltine said he found two naked men in massage rooms. Both said they were there for a massage.
Lt. Heseltine said he did an online search for advertisements and found backpage. Com posts for 'sensual body rubs. ' The ads were linked to the Oxford site, state police said.
On Jan. 9, troopers installed a pole camera on Fairlawn Avenue facing the side of the building leading to Unit 2.
During the seven-month investigation, from eight to more than 20 men a day made 30- to 60-minute visits to the parlor, police said. Their cars had license plates from as far away as Maine and Vermont, state police said.
Investigators sent a subpoena to the records keeper at backpage. Com. It yielded many ads associated with the Fairlawn Avenue address. The invoices identified Wei Ma as the user. She was also the account holder of the debit card, email and phone number used to place the ads, investigators said.
On Feb. 1, investigators monitoring the parlor found a Toyota Camry out front registered to Wei Ma. The car was seen coming and going from the parlor.
Two Asian women were followed in the car to the Econo Lodge in Northboro on Feb. 9, state police said.
The next day, Northboro police did an independent prostitution investigation at the motel. Wei Meng was charged with offering sex for a fee, having posted an advertisement on backpage. Com under 'Worcester escorts. ' She allegedly used a phone number linked to the Oxford investigation.
On March 8, after surveillance footage showed an Asian woman taking trash from the Oxford business, a state trooper removed it and had it tested. A lab analysis found the contents included seminal fluid and paraphernalia 'consistent with a house of prostitution and sexual conduct for fee. '
On March 23, Lanyun Ma was seen on a bank video in New York depositing $6, 000 into a business account for 2 Fairlawn Ave.
On Aug. 9, police stopped customers leaving 2 Fairlawn Ave, and they allegedly admitted they had paid for sexual services there.
Police then searched the property and seized $3, 000 and ledgers indicating dates of services and money paid by customers. A chemist from the state police crime lab confirmed the presence of seminal fluid.
Lanyun Ma admitted she and Wei Ma managed the business, but denied engaging in sexual conduct. She said the employees were from New York and their length of stays varied.
Investigators said they believe 300 W. Main St, Northboro, was planned as the duo's second massage parlor.
Lawyer Michael Erlich, who represents Lanyun Ma, and lawyer Kenneth P. Canty, who represents Wei Ma, said earlier this week they were bracing for the new charges against their clients.
A court clerk said the women can either turn themselves in at the court or wait to be brought in by police.
http://www.telegram.com/article/2012.120909759/1116
I am not trying to stir up the pot, but if we can see a trace or maybe make a lead to the situation, we could take the appropriate detours to combat the losses.
Thanks Gogglz for the info
Stressed Out
09-18-12, 16:44
Hey M's This was posted on the Mass Palor forum, by Gogglz paesano.
W sex trafficking charges filed in Oxford massage parlor case
DUDLEY — As expected, the two women who managed an Oxford massage parlor that allegedly doubled as a prostitution house are facing new charges after a judge dismissed their original charges this week.
Warrants were issued out of Dudley District Court today for Lanyun Ma. 42, and Wei Ma. 22, both of Flushing, N. Y, on a count each of trafficking persons for sexual servitude.
Lt. Pi Heseltine of the state police's special service section issued a 10-page affidavit.
A judge on Tuesday dismissed the original charges against the Chinese-born women based on the defense lawyers' motions arguing that insufficient evidence had been presented at a probable cause hearing.
Lt. Heseltine's report said Oxford police in December asked Shawn Croke, an investigator from the Division of Professional Licensure, for help investigating a possible prostitution house 2 Fairlawn Ave, Oxford, purporting to be a therapeutic massage business. Mr. Croke contacted state police.
The parlor had no advertised name at the time. But it had two phone numbers, the report said. Police said they believed prostitutes were being brought in from New York.
In late December, police and investigators went to the parlor to check on employees' licenses.
Lanyun Ma said the business provided massages for $60 for an hour. Mr. Croke identified himself and asked for her license and the license of a second woman, Bi Zhen Zhang of Brooklyn, which he said could not be produced. The women were fined.
Ms. Zhang had been arrested and charged in Quincy in 2009 for selling sexual services, the report said.
Lt. Heseltine said he found two naked men in massage rooms. Both said they were there for a massage.
Lt. Heseltine said he did an online search for advertisements and found backpage. Com posts for 'sensual body rubs. ' The ads were linked to the Oxford site, state police said.
On Jan. 9, troopers installed a pole camera on Fairlawn Avenue facing the side of the building leading to Unit 2.
During the seven-month investigation, from eight to more than 20 men a day made 30- to 60-minute visits to the parlor, police said. Their cars had license plates from as far away as Maine and Vermont, state police said.
Investigators sent a subpoena to the records keeper at backpage. Com. It yielded many ads associated with the Fairlawn Avenue address. The invoices identified Wei Ma as the user. She was also the account holder of the debit card, email and phone number used to place the ads, investigators said.
On Feb. 1, investigators monitoring the parlor found a Toyota Camry out front registered to Wei Ma. The car was seen coming and going from the parlor.
Two Asian women were followed in the car to the Econo Lodge in Northboro on Feb. 9, state police said.
The next day, Northboro police did an independent prostitution investigation at the motel. Wei Meng was charged with offering sex for a fee, having posted an advertisement on backpage. Com under 'Worcester escorts. ' She allegedly used a phone number linked to the Oxford investigation.
On March 8, after surveillance footage showed an Asian woman taking trash from the Oxford business, a state trooper removed it and had it tested. A lab analysis found the contents included seminal fluid and paraphernalia 'consistent with a house of prostitution and sexual conduct for fee. '
On March 23, Lanyun Ma was seen on a bank video in New York depositing $6, 000 into a business account for 2 Fairlawn Ave.
On Aug. 9, police stopped customers leaving 2 Fairlawn Ave, and they allegedly admitted they had paid for sexual services there.
Police then searched the property and seized $3, 000 and ledgers indicating dates of services and money paid by customers. A chemist from the state police crime lab confirmed the presence of seminal fluid.
Lanyun Ma admitted she and Wei Ma managed the business, but denied engaging in sexual conduct. She said the employees were from New York and their length of stays varied.
Investigators said they believe 300 W. Main St, Northboro, was planned as the duo's second massage parlor.
Lawyer Michael Erlich, who represents Lanyun Ma, and lawyer Kenneth P. Canty, who represents Wei Ma, said earlier this week they were bracing for the new charges against their clients.
A court clerk said the women can either turn themselves in at the court or wait to be brought in by police.
http://www.telegram.com/article/2012.120909759/1116
I am not trying to stir up the pot, but if we can see a trace or maybe make a lead to the situation, we could take the appropriate detours to combat the losses.
Thanks Gogglz for the infoState crime lab huh. The one that just got closed down and jeopardizing 34, 000 cases. You'd think that the cops would be trying to do damage control on THAT rather than pestering these women.
AsianLPGAfan
09-18-12, 19:47
Been looking for a provider on CL due to the current AMP situation. Found 2, but both were a bust. THE first goes by Angel, set up an appt, she operates out of a hair shop, got there on time, door locked, she didn't answer her phone, I left her a message, waited 15 mins and tried to call again. No answer, she returned my call an hour later and I told her to fuck off, I already made other arrangements.
The second girl actually returned my call while I was waiting for the first. She is in pawt named Hannah, decent apart, ent, she quoted 80 for an hour. She was cute 8/10, nice see-cups, the massage was on an air mattress, she uses way to much lotion, no skills, just rubs, no tease at all, and when all was said and done I asked for extras and she wantedn80 more for a HJ, I said no thanks. She also keep texting during the sesions, after the third time I asked her to shutnoff her phone. My search continues for that UTR provider that can actualy massage and do it sensually with a nice ending.Will a good Aamp or even good incall set up go the way of "penny candy stores"? Will the principals of supply and demand drive "independents " prices upwards with fears that Providence is going to go the way of Cambridge MP scene of the late 80s-early 90s? Or Connecticut from the late 90s / early 00s? . And the quality more "thin" but not free of drama?
Since the "law" change I haven't found any decent "independent" incall set up since the departure of "Alice" from Providence a few years ago.
I m getting older and more thinned skin. Then you have to decide a transition towards more escort like experiencs than Massage/"rub" provider encounters? The volatility on quality service also seem higher or at least my Past experiences were more variable w escorts.
Things back in MA are just "ok" compared to what was available in RI. MA AMP vs RI AMP s the forum reports speak for themselves.
State crime lab huh. The one that just got closed down and jeopardizing 34, 000 cases. You'd think that the cops would be trying to do damage control on THAT rather than pestering these women.Can the time be so far away when it would be prudent to bring our own tissues / napkins / cloth and remove the evidence when leaving, lest the improper disposal by lazy therapists results in DNA identification by the crime lab, culminating with a swift, sure conviction?
Fly Dangler
09-19-12, 00:55
Can the time be so far away when it would be prudent to bring our own tissues / napkins / cloth and remove the evidence when leaving, lest the improper disposal by lazy therapists results in DNA identification by the crime lab, culminating with a swift, sure conviction?Ah yes, the ever increasing police state. The way their mission keeps getting expanded we'll probably soon see TSA set up at the door confiscating all those things you mentioned while groping your gonads. Service with a smile!
Prometheus77
09-19-12, 00:57
Been looking for a provider on CL due to the current AMP situation. Found 2, but both were a bust. THE first goes by Angel, set up an appt, she operates out of a hair shop, got there on time, door locked, she didn't answer her phone, I left her a message, waited 15 mins and tried to call again. No answer, she returned my call an hour later and I told her to fuck off, I already made other arrangements.
The second girl actually returned my call while I was waiting for the first. She is in pawt named Hannah, decent apart, ent, she quoted 80 for an hour. She was cute 8/10, nice see-cups, the massage was on an air mattress, she uses way to much lotion, no skills, just rubs, no tease at all, and when all was said and done I asked for extras and she wantedn80 more for a HJ, I said no thanks. She also keep texting during the sesions, after the third time I asked her to shutnoff her phone. My search continues for that UTR provider that can actualy massage and do it sensually with a nice ending.You could give Jen in Riverside a shot. She generally advertises on CL under the "therapeutic services" section. She's on the BBW side, but she's got a reasonably attractive face, and gives a decent massage with a nice ending (didn't have to ask for the ending or anything the time that I saw her, it was just part of the package). The massage itself is totally legit, she has a professional style table in her house and everything. Let us know how it goes if you try her out, I've been thinking about going to see her again myself.
You could give Jen in Riverside a shot. She generally advertises on CL under the "therapeutic services" section. She's on the BBW side, but she's got a reasonably attractive face, and gives a decent massage with a nice ending (didn't have to ask for the ending or anything the time that I saw her, it was just part of the package). The massage itself is totally legit, she has a professional style table in her house and everything. Let us know how it goes if you try her out, I've been thinking about going to see her again myself.I have been to her, she uses way too much oil, and the massage was ok, but I know there is much beter out there. Also her place smelled like dog when I was there. A real turn off. So far the best I have found is Keri in EP, she is near the roller skating place, she is good but after several visits it gets kind of the same old, same old.
Maybe just a coincidence but I was going through some posts in the NY area to see if maybe some of our girls turned up there. I came across some reviews from an AMP in Sommerville, NJ and Ruby and Yumi were mentioned. Ruby's reviews were pretty spot on about her playfulness and flirting I don't think it was FS though because reviewer mentioned a $60 tip. Our loss their gain.
Stressed Out
09-19-12, 09:50
Can the time be so far away when it would be prudent to bring our own tissues / napkins / cloth and remove the evidence when leaving, lest the improper disposal by lazy therapists results in DNA identification by the crime lab, culminating with a swift, sure conviction?Rather than woring about leaving anything behind all the ladies we see should just CIM and swallow.
I've seen both Jen and Keri. I got just a massage from Keri, nothing else, not even a hint. I got a HE from Jen, although she got a little huffy when it took me too long to pop. She also seemed to have a cold demeanor, almost too business like.
Fly Dangler
09-19-12, 21:52
Rather than woring about leaving anything behind all the ladies we see should just CIM and swallow.Ah yes, since that worked so well for President Clinton.
Undercoverchef
09-20-12, 00:51
Right about now I would let Mika stick her fishy fingers in my nose, some of that tender lovin care!
Bastards!
Optimus Prime
09-20-12, 10:01
Are you kidding me? They have to do some CSI shit and spend that much money on a massage parlor? Wow! SMH.
Hey M's This was posted on the Mass Palor forum, by Gogglz paesano.
W sex trafficking charges filed in Oxford massage parlor case
DUDLEY — As expected, the two women who managed an Oxford massage parlor that allegedly doubled as a prostitution house are facing new charges after a judge dismissed their original charges this week.
Warrants were issued out of Dudley District Court today for Lanyun Ma. 42, and Wei Ma. 22, both of Flushing, N. Y, on a count each of trafficking persons for sexual servitude.
Lt. Pi Heseltine of the state police's special service section issued a 10-page affidavit.
A judge on Tuesday dismissed the original charges against the Chinese-born women based on the defense lawyers' motions arguing that insufficient evidence had been presented at a probable cause hearing.
Lt. Heseltine's report said Oxford police in December asked Shawn Croke, an investigator from the Division of Professional Licensure, for help investigating a possible prostitution house 2 Fairlawn Ave, Oxford, purporting to be a therapeutic massage business. Mr. Croke contacted state police.
The parlor had no advertised name at the time. But it had two phone numbers, the report said. Police said they believed prostitutes were being brought in from New York.
In late December, police and investigators went to the parlor to check on employees' licenses.
Lanyun Ma said the business provided massages for $60 for an hour. Mr. Croke identified himself and asked for her license and the license of a second woman, Bi Zhen Zhang of Brooklyn, which he said could not be produced. The women were fined.
Ms. Zhang had been arrested and charged in Quincy in 2009 for selling sexual services, the report said.
Lt. Heseltine said he found two naked men in massage rooms. Both said they were there for a massage.
Lt. Heseltine said he did an online search for advertisements and found backpage. Com posts for 'sensual body rubs. ' The ads were linked to the Oxford site, state police said.
On Jan. 9, troopers installed a pole camera on Fairlawn Avenue facing the side of the building leading to Unit 2.
During the seven-month investigation, from eight to more than 20 men a day made 30- to 60-minute visits to the parlor, police said. Their cars had license plates from as far away as Maine and Vermont, state police said.
Investigators sent a subpoena to the records keeper at backpage. Com. It yielded many ads associated with the Fairlawn Avenue address. The invoices identified Wei Ma as the user. She was also the account holder of the debit card, email and phone number used to place the ads, investigators said.
On Feb. 1, investigators monitoring the parlor found a Toyota Camry out front registered to Wei Ma. The car was seen coming and going from the parlor.
Two Asian women were followed in the car to the Econo Lodge in Northboro on Feb. 9, state police said.
The next day, Northboro police did an independent prostitution investigation at the motel. Wei Meng was charged with offering sex for a fee, having posted an advertisement on backpage. Com under 'Worcester escorts. ' She allegedly used a phone number linked to the Oxford investigation.
On March 8, after surveillance footage showed an Asian woman taking trash from the Oxford business, a state trooper removed it and had it tested. A lab analysis found the contents included seminal fluid and paraphernalia 'consistent with a house of prostitution and sexual conduct for fee. '
On March 23, Lanyun Ma was seen on a bank video in New York depositing $6, 000 into a business account for 2 Fairlawn Ave.
On Aug. 9, police stopped customers leaving 2 Fairlawn Ave, and they allegedly admitted they had paid for sexual services there.
Police then searched the property and seized $3, 000 and ledgers indicating dates of services and money paid by customers. A chemist from the state police crime lab confirmed the presence of seminal fluid.
Lanyun Ma admitted she and Wei Ma managed the business, but denied engaging in sexual conduct. She said the employees were from New York and their length of stays varied.
Investigators said they believe 300 W. Main St, Northboro, was planned as the duo's second massage parlor.
Lawyer Michael Erlich, who represents Lanyun Ma, and lawyer Kenneth P. Canty, who represents Wei Ma, said earlier this week they were bracing for the new charges against their clients.
A court clerk said the women can either turn themselves in at the court or wait to be brought in by police.
http://www.telegram.com/article/2012.120909759/1116
I am not trying to stir up the pot, but if we can see a trace or maybe make a lead to the situation, we could take the appropriate detours to combat the losses.
Thanks Gogglz for the info
Rhodyexplorer
09-20-12, 10:41
They they wonder why all the states are going broke. They spend tons of cash on stupid things instead of going after real crime.
Are you kidding me? They have to do some CSI shit and spend that much money on a massage parlor? Wow! SMH.
Craven Morehed
09-20-12, 10:46
Do they have a case?
"On Aug. 9, police stopped customers leaving 2 Fairlawn Ave, and they allegedly admitted they had paid for sexual services there."
"Allegedly" isn't going to get a conviction.
And the presence of seminal fluid. Maybe a couple guys had itchy triggers, and the girls from out of state. How do you prove they did anything.
They could have been there to cook and clean.
http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/abc-reopen-friday-new-management-23/20206318
Good news
Fly Dangler
09-20-12, 14:29
http://boston.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/abc-reopen-friday-new-management-23/20206318
Good newsHave also seen reports that the lights are back on at DT and they are answering their phones. If asked they'll tell you they aren't doing massages, just body rubs.
Member #4247
09-20-12, 14:50
Good news[/QUOTE]Ok, I had to test the water again, I was looking for a good massage (a real one) and headed over to Westport, I went to the one nearest Kings Inn area. Away there was only two girls (women). I got Ginney, she's older probably in the 40's. Tells me to get ready and she'll be in a minute. So she gets in and ask how long, I say hour. I am unrobed all the way down to my draws, The only reason I wasn't fullly naked because there's only a curtain between me and the hall. She asked me if I was there before and told her yes and with whom.
Well Ginney does a great job of removing knots in my neck and back. I didn't indicate or motion any extra, I wanted to see if she would do the flip question. Nothing, I was covered with a towel all the time and she never made a notion to give extras. While she was doing her job she asked if it was ok to move down my draws, I told her it's ok to take them off and she did so. Well the hour was up and she asked if I wanted more time I said yes. 1/2 hr.
Well she continues with the massage, after a while I start to think maybe she's worried I'm a unfreindly. So this is were it gets wierd / questionable. I take a chance and start to rub the inner thigh acting like it was a possible mistake. Well I didn't get the no no touching explaination. So I decide to start rubbing higher and more naughty. I still get the no reaction I figure I would get it since I was doing the behind camel toe check. Nothing! She continued her usual rub and it seemed it didn't affect her. I even asked if it is ok to touch and she said it's ok. So I figure she got the hint and I would get a PR. She only made close but no go massges.
While I was getting my massage the phone rang 3 times, and I knew who it was. Well I get dressed and look at the phone and it's the SO. Well I braced for the worse, I had to explain that I had stopped to get a massage, (I know what your thinking) , I had to do this as she already has issues when I leave the house for long periods of time. (bad past). Anyway I was there and the two ladies where there and their looking at me like oh boy, I pay her 100. 85 for the massage 15 tip. I grap a business card to prove where I was. Ginney asked if I wanted it stamped, I was like what, she shows me that after 10 visits you get 15 minutes free.
I wonder if the card might be the clue I need? I got home and got the 3rd degree. I told her exactly where it was and what happen (sort).
You ask why would I do such a bone head move, it wasn't a bone head move, I often tell my wife I need a massage due to neck issues, Now I have a aliby to see other places. If I tell her I'm going to get a massage I grap the card and off I go to where I want. Since this place is legit I have a good exscape. I asked Ginney if they had women clients and she said yes.
Stressed Out
09-20-12, 16:52
Have also seen reports that the lights are back on at DT and they are answering their phones. If asked they'll tell you they aren't doing massages, just body rubs.Also saw a BP ad for Harmony Spa yesterday. Not sure if it ever closed but it stopped advertising. Wonder if the heat is off (ie payout) or if the courts or higher ups at City Hall threw it out. To have one ad appear we could chauk it up to a BP mess-up but to have all these? And to have multiple places re-open would signify it wasn't a sting as opposed to just one. Hopefully our spy will advise us. (you know who you are LOL)
http://boston.backpage.com/BodyRubs/your-choice-of-6-masseuses-harmony-spa-magical-bodyrub-24/20466574
Here is Central Health....
http://providence.backpage.com/BodyRubs/central-health-401-351-1611-at-provdence-exit-23-21/3023986
Stressed Out
09-20-12, 17:07
Ah yes, since that worked so well for President Clinton.Keep in mind that ex-president dickhead was never legally convicted. Just some bad press. And seems to me that he is all over the news lately stumping for the other dickhead. Just saying. Of course looking at hill no wonder he got head from someone else.
MuffyTheDiver
09-20-12, 17:15
Also saw a BP ad for Harmony Spa yesterday. Wonder if the heat is off (ie payout) or if the courts or higher ups at City Hall threw it out. To have one ad appear we could chauk it up to a BP mess-up but to have all these? And to have multiple places re-open would signify it wasn't a sting as opposed to just one. Hopefully our spy will advise us. (you know who you are LOL)
http://boston.backpage.com/BodyRubs/your-choice-of-6-masseuses-harmony-spa-magical-bodyrub-24/20466574Just so you know, Harmony and other Pawtucket Spa's never closed it was only the Providence FS spa's that were affected. None of the Spa's were officially busted or had any official charges brought against them except at NMS where that ruffian "YoYo put a strangle hold on that poor guy! They were only harassed and intimidated into packing up and leaving! All the girls were too afraid of being arrested so they left.
ABC and any other FS Spa's in Providence are closed still, the ads you see on BP and elsewhere are only auto repeat ads that they never bothered to stop.
Its just a waiting game now, could be tomorrow could be never that they reopen who knows!
Muffy
They they wonder why all the states are going broke. They spend tons of cash on stupid things instead of going after real crime.Sorry for going OT, but they really need to put the 14% unemployed to good use and fix the f'in roads quicker, and do better with the detour signs. Driving to MA, it was faster to go south and turn around then follow the detour signs.
Just so you know, Harmony and other Pawtucket Spa's never closed it was only the Providence FS spa's that were affected. None of the Spa's were officially busted or had any official charges brought against them except at NMS where that ruffian "YoYo put a strangle hold on that poor guy! They were only harassed and intimidated into packing up and leaving! All the girls were too afraid of being arrested so they left.
ABC and any other FS Spa's in Providence are closed still, the ads you see on BP and elsewhere are only auto repeat ads that they never bothered to stop.
Its just a waiting game now, could be tomorrow could be never that they reopen who knows!
MuffyAbc says new management and reopening on Friday I don't think it's an autopost
Member #4247
09-20-12, 18:59
Just so you know, Harmony and other Pawtucket Spa's never closed it was only the Providence FS spa's that were affected. None of the Spa's were officially busted or had any official charges brought against them except at NMS where that ruffian "YoYo put a strangle hold on that poor guy! They were only harassed and intimidated into packing up and leaving! All the girls were too afraid of being arrested so they left.
ABC and any other FS Spa's in Providence are closed still, the ads you see on BP and elsewhere are only auto repeat ads that they never bothered to stop.
Its just a waiting game now, could be tomorrow could be never that they reopen who knows!
MuffyHey M's.
I was in the mood for a massage and before I went to Westport, I looked up BP and saw that DT had a ad, I called 3 times and NO one answered. So I'm going with Muff.
I also tried calling the outcall number for them lovely asian women, only to get a no vm has been set up.
AsianLPGAfan
09-20-12, 19:27
Good newsOk, I had to test the water again, I was looking for a good massage (a real one) and headed over to Westport, I went to the one nearest Kings Inn area. Away there was only two girls (women). I got Ginney, she's older probably in the 40's. Tells me to get ready and she'll be in a minute. So she gets in and ask how long, I say hour. I am unrobed all the way down to my draws, The only reason I wasn't fullly naked because there's only a curtain between me and the hall. She asked me if I was there before and told her yes and with whom.
Well Ginney does a great job of removing knots in my neck and back. I didn't indicate or motion any extra, I wanted to see if she would do the flip question. Nothing, I was covered with a towel all the time and she never made a notion to give extras. While she was doing her job she asked if it was ok to move down my draws, I told her it's ok to take them off and she did so. Well the hour was up and she asked if I wanted more time I said yes. 1/2 hr.
Well she continues with the massage, after a while I start to think maybe she's worried I'm a unfreindly. So this is were it gets wierd / questionable. I take a chance and start to rub the inner thigh acting like it was a possible mistake. Well I didn't get the no no touching explaination. So I decide to start rubbing higher and more naughty. I still get the no reaction I figure I would get it since I was doing the behind camel toe check. Nothing! She continued her usual rub and it seemed it didn't affect her. I even asked if it is ok to touch and she said it's ok. So I figure she got the hint and I would get a PR. She only made close but no go massges.
While I was getting my massage the phone rang 3 times, and I knew who it was. Well I get dressed and look at the phone and it's the SO. Well I braced for the worse, I had to explain that I had stopped to get a massage, (I know what your thinking) , I had to do this as she already has issues when I leave the house for long periods of time. (bad past). Anyway I was there and the two ladies where there and their looking at me like oh boy, I pay her 100. 85 for the massage 15 tip. I grap a business card to prove where I was. Ginney asked if I wanted it stamped, I was like what, she shows me that after 10 visits you get 15 minutes free.
I wonder if the card might be the clue I need? I got home and got the 3rd degree. I told her exactly where it was and what happen (sort).
You ask why would I do such a bone head move, it wasn't a bone head move, I often tell my wife I need a massage due to neck issues, Now I have a aliby to see other places. If I tell her I'm going to get a massage I grap the card and off I go to where I want. Since this place is legit I have a good exscape. I asked Ginney if they had women clients and she said yes.[/QUOTE]I think it is a monger must to have legit therapeutic business cards in your desk at home.
I even went to a legit therapeutic place and put the charge on my visa to show the charge on my bill.
Let your lady know your neck or back is sore and ask her to give you a massage then the next time you tell her your back / neck aches she will tell you to go get a massage!
Ampdude 2003
09-20-12, 22:14
Abc says new management and reopening on Friday I don't think it's an autopostThis whole thing stinks. F*ing losers. I've had to curb the appetite and have since been to Cheater's (Fri night) and met up with raphael (?) , Brazilian girl who has been there forever, did a booth. Also went to Pawt / FE and had the fortune of running into an old aquaintance Yuri. I always seem to get her and I always venture to see someone else but don't have the heart to ask.
Breath of relief to see ABC again.
BTW. Going to San Fran soon, looking forward to more open opportunities there. Check out myredbook. Com.
MuffyTheDiver
09-21-12, 05:15
Abc says new management and reopening on Friday I don't think it's an autopostCould be true, who knows. I don't think I will be venturing there to be the first visitor. Way too out in the open for me and with all the reports of LE harassment, DNA samples, and video surveillance I'd rather not be on the 6 O'clock news.
Fly Dangler
09-21-12, 15:41
Curious as to what these girls are doing now? They still need to make $I'm pretty sure most all of them returned to the big AMP provider union hall in the Flushing area of Queens, NY to await their next assignment. I wonder if it's the SEIU (Service Employees International Union) they belong to?
MuffyTheDiver
09-22-12, 06:36
http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/best-body-massage-everything-you-want/2786606
interesting
Boston Guy4
09-22-12, 10:01
Considering the current state of affairs, I figured I would post on what's still out there. I actually made this visit a couple months ago and meant to post a report, but just didn't for whatever reason. Anyway, I was at SP, since I'm more into non-AMPs, although Candy from 1021 had me re-thinking my preferences.
I saw Mercedes. She greeted me at the door, friendly and as soon as I saw her thought she was a sexy latin number with a nice body. Led me into the room. I got ready and she came back with the line-up. Nothing too impressive and she was easily the cream of that crop. Only one white chick that I can remember and she was nothing to write home about.
Mercedes takes me for the TS, pretty good TS and my first by a non-AMP, so I wasn't sure what to expect. Asked me if it was my first time there and I told her it was, but not my first time in RI for massage and that I had been to AMPs before.
Back to the room for massage and she continues to make small talk. Asked for a light massage, but she gave me a pretty good one and really concentrated on my legs, which was great and the teasing was decent. I had read before that some of the girls at TS were uptight or their asking price was just unrealistic, so I didn't know what to expect and kind of treaded lightly. On the flip, I asked her what was available and got the impression that everything was on the table, so I went step by step, but will say that there was some haggling on the donation. CBJ was okay, not as long as I would have liked. DATY was great and FS was okay. I had seen Candy a few weeks after this, which made this experience seem like the minor leagues compared to her. The house was. 6 and when I told her I only had 1. 4 for the house, she was not cool with it, but wasn't pissed, just disappointed, but still went through with it, but it kind of puts a damper on the experience when you know the chick isn't happy with the donation.
In summary:
Looks: 8 (Ds, maybe DDs) and pretty fit, but not model fit.
Service: Massage 7, extras 6.
Damage:.6 + 1. 4.
If you need any more info don't hesitate to contact me. Non seniors are welcome as well.
http://providence.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/best-body-massage-everything-you-want/2786606
InterestingYes it is. A visit is in order.
Yellowfever023
09-22-12, 14:42
Yes it is. A visit is in order.Line has been been giving a busy signal since Thursday.
SP? Sorry this all gets to cryptic sometimes.
Considering the current state of affairs, I figured I would post on what's still out there. I actually made this visit a couple months ago and meant to post a report, but just didn't for whatever reason. Anyway, I was at SP, since I'm more into non-AMPs, although Candy from 1021 had me re-thinking my preferences.
I saw Mercedes. She greeted me at the door, friendly and as soon as I saw her thought she was a sexy latin number with a nice body. Led me into the room. I got ready and she came back with the line-up. Nothing too impressive and she was easily the cream of that crop. Only one white chick that I can remember and she was nothing to write home about.
Mercedes takes me for the TS, pretty good TS and my first by a non-AMP, so I wasn't sure what to expect. Asked me if it was my first time there and I told her it was, but not my first time in RI for massage and that I had been to AMPs before.
Back to the room for massage and she continues to make small talk. Asked for a light massage, but she gave me a pretty good one and really concentrated on my legs, which was great and the teasing was decent. I had read before that some of the girls at TS were uptight or their asking price was just unrealistic, so I didn't know what to expect and kind of treaded lightly. On the flip, I asked her what was available and got the impression that everything was on the table, so I went step by step, but will say that there was some haggling on the donation. CBJ was okay, not as long as I would have liked. DATY was great and FS was okay. I had seen Candy a few weeks after this, which made this experience seem like the minor leagues compared to her. The house was. 6 and when I told her I only had 1. 4 for the house, she was not cool with it, but wasn't pissed, just disappointed, but still went through with it, but it kind of puts a damper on the experience when you know the chick isn't happy with the donation.
In summary:
Looks: 8 (Ds, maybe DDs) and pretty fit, but not model fit.
Service: Massage 7, extras 6.
Damage:.6 + 1. 4.
If you need any more info don't hesitate to contact me. Non seniors are welcome as well.
Fly Dangler
09-22-12, 18:27
SP? Sorry this all gets to cryptic sometimes.Probably Simple Pleasures in Central Falls
CJBraves84
09-23-12, 02:59
Visted ABC to night and they are open and in full swing. Forget the name of girl I saw but she had decent english and asked her about them being closed she said just arrived Friday.
Drove by today,"for rent" sign on the front door, perhaps we should get a group and rent it and open up our own place.
Drove by today,"for rent" sign on the front door, perhaps we should get a group and rent it and open up our own place.Just came back from a 4 day mini vacation and was hoping to see a report about 1021 reopening and see this. It sucks was hoping to spend some time with Candy on my birthday.
Boston Guy4
09-24-12, 15:27
Probably Simple Pleasures in Central FallsFly is correct
Visted ABC to night and they are open and in full swing. Forget the name of girl I saw but she had decent english and asked her about them being closed she said just arrived Friday.This is excellent news.
The report about a "For Rent" sign at 1021 would be sad news. Hopefully, some of the staffers read the Board and know that many patrons value their encounters beyond the mechanics and would truly miss the personalities and relationship.
A couple of Board posters suggest they are friendly with Sophia and I would guess Sophia has lots of feedback as to how special she is to some, myself included. Should they not return please pass along to Sophia, and any others, that they are missed in a real sense.
Hope not necessary as the day would be brighter with their prompt return.
Fly Dangler
09-25-12, 06:33
Drove by today,"for rent" sign on the front doorProvidence PD probably got to the landlord. Hopefully after it appears the heat is off they'll find another space and reopen, but that could take a while.
Providence PD probably got to the landlord. Hopefully after it appears the heat is off they'll find another space and reopen, but that could take a while.I'm hoping real hard that when they reopen, it'll be further north, walking distance to the train station. My wallet hopes otherwise, but so be it.
A travesty it closed. Maybe they can buy and not rent.
MuffyTheDiver
09-25-12, 19:11
This is excellent news.
The report about a "For Rent" sign at 1021 would be sad news. Hopefully, some of the staffers read the Board and know that many patrons value their encounters beyond the mechanics and would truly miss the personalities and relationship.
A couple of Board posters suggest they are friendly with Sophia and I would guess Sophia has lots of feedback as to how special she is to some, myself included. Should they not return please pass along to Sophia, and any others, that they are missed in a real sense.
Hope not necessary as the day would be brighter with their prompt return.All is not lost, just hang in there.
BTW, The for rent sign is not for the location 1021 was residing in, there is other open space that is available next to 1021's location. Sophia understands very well how much they are missed and even more she understands the need to get the money flowing again. Soon there will be a light at the end of the tunnel. Patience
MuffyTheDiver
09-25-12, 19:40
Gents. I just wanted to make a comment regarding our beloved Spa's. I was dreaming today that most of our favorite Spa's were reopened or due to reopen very soon. It was a great dream which made me smile and feel all was back to normal, life was good again.
After some "ManTears" I thought what if my dream was reality, should I go running, screaming and yelling in public."They're open again, they're open again!". My first reaction would be just that, to scream to everyone that the Spa's were back, we could all go back and enjoy our little diversion, but once my heart rate got back to triple digits my brain took over and demanded that I not draw this type of unwanted attention, that I not raise my thumb to my nose and antagonize our valued friends (LE) into a quick and final move to close them for good. I decided that I for one would not contribute publicly with graphic stories of my dreams only to have the heavy hand of the law, the vote seeking politicians, the bible thumping do gooders and last but not least. The sexually assaulted poor men who were viscously raped by a 90 pound Asian girl. All of whom would try and close my beloved Spa's.
OK OK, I know I am being a bit dramatic here, but it sure would be nice if we could all keep our "dreams" in private chat (PM with trusted members) or at least very vague if we need to be public about it. When were given a second chance, lets all try and be proactive and not be one of the reasons they disappear for good!
KingSteve1973
09-25-12, 22:13
Gents. I just wanted to make a comment regarding our beloved Spa's. I was dreaming today that most of our favorite Spa's were reopened or due to reopen very soon. It was a great dream which made me smile and feel all was back to normal, life was good again.
After some "ManTears" I thought what if my dream was reality, should I go running, screaming and yelling in public."They're open again, they're open again!". My first reaction would be just that, to scream to everyone that the Spa's were back, we could all go back and enjoy our little diversion, but once my heart rate got back to triple digits my brain took over and demanded that I not draw this type of unwanted attention, that I not raise my thumb to my nose and antagonize our valued friends (LE) into a quick and final move to close them for good. I decided that I for one would not contribute publicly with graphic stories of my dreams only to have the heavy hand of the law, the vote seeking politicians, the bible thumping do gooders and last but not least. The sexually assaulted poor men who were viscously raped by a 90 pound Asian girl. All of whom would try and close my beloved Spa's.
OK OK, I know I am being a bit dramatic here, but it sure would be nice if we could all keep our "dreams" in private chat (PM with trusted members) or at least very vague if we need to be public about it. When were given a second chance, lets all try and be proactive and not be one of the reasons they disappear for good!Well Said. In the future let's all use some common sense.
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