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11-02-09, 12:00
This was posted on the Boston board, some very interesting history as well as other information, not sure it is anywhere near as bleak as painted here, but to each their own.
http://digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1137&context=srhonorsprog
Stressed Out
11-02-09, 12:26
Not a lawyer, but I read the entire bill carefully and sadly it appears that they have left "no" obvious openings. Just going to a place with a reputation as a sex biz can subject customers to arrest, and LE will say that any location reviewed here or on the other hobbyist sites will qualify as meeting that standard. Any form of sexual contact, even just a touch, is defined as a violation. No distinction made between HE and FS.
Unfortunately, there is one little-noticed provision that will guarantee that LE enforcement of this misguided legislation will not simmer down later: Last section of the bill requires LE agencies in RI to provide an annual report detailing number of arrests. The agencies, in turn, will use this inflated arrest record to justify higher budgets for expensive new toys. A bad situation.
Good luck!
ok-question. I know if past raids here and elsewhere LE (otherwise known as sleezebag) is not allowed to touch the provider. I'm guessing this is where the touch me to prove your not LE before anything gets discussed comes in.
Scenario a - client goes into AMP and gets bodyrub. (note not massage). Provider says or does nothing to initiate the 'money or sex' discussion unless/until the client puts his hand on her privates. At this point I would think that he has gone over the line as to touching the provider and the finish can be done. Again nothing has to be said just understood between the client and provider. Hopefully the client will not be an idiot and will leave a tip. Again from what I've understood the 'sleezebag' is not allowed to touch. will some idiot try and leave without paying...no doubt but it seems safer for the provider.
Scenario B - non-amp provider. Again before all gets started nothing is said. The client comes over for a get together. No money shown or talked about. The client "proves' he isn't 'sleezebag' by touching her privates and then the show goes on. Again this is precipated by the theory that LE isn't allowed to touch the girl (provates at least) and if he did then she could cry foul or assault ect......
Just wondering.......
Stressed Out
11-02-09, 12:28
This was posted on the Boston board, some very interesting history as well as other information, not sure it is anywhere near as bleak as painted here, but to each their own.
http://digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1137&context=srhonorsprog
So what da ya think. How much was she paid by all these 'save the world' groups to do this? Big bucks I'm sure. Most colleges and professors will steer real clear of these type of 'research projects'.
Stressed Out
11-02-09, 12:34
Where did you read that the police asked for this?
One guess as to the occupation of the typical customer of the AMPs.
That some of the local LE establishment is getting laid for free. We do know that they are getting some nice political donations and I'm sure some are getting something on the side.
Now that would be a great thesis to write. How many of the customers are part of the establishment that is fighting so hard to get rid of them and how much is going to these crooked people who voted them out? I mean we have donations, look the other way donations and I'm sure some ownership stake. After all we know what a non-corrupt goverment runs RI and particually Prov.
Sleezebags, great description btw, are allowed to lie. SB and provider alone in a room, who is to say what really happened. Prosecuter and judge going to take the word of a provider over a highly respected member of the le community? I don't think so. He's going to pop a nut then arrest her.
Before the end of the month there will be a perp walk on TV, guaranted
Stressed Out
11-02-09, 12:42
Sleezebags, great descrition btw, are allowed to lie. SB and provider alone in a room, who is to say what really happened. Prosecuter and judge going to take the word of a provider over a highly respected member of the le community? I don't think so. He's going to pop a nut then arrest her.
Before the end of the month there will be a perp walk on TV, guaranted
It must have been a slip of the tongue......you said 'highly respected member of the LE community'. Isn't that an onymoron?
Boston P A
11-02-09, 13:40
So what da ya think. How much was she paid by all these 'save the world' groups to do this? Big bucks I'm sure. Most colleges and professors will steer real clear of these type of 'research projects'.
The faculty sponsor was Donna Hughes, who has made a career out of conflating prostitution with human trafficking. The data source was us.
Talk about strange bedfellows!
The faculty sponsor was Donna Hughes, who has made a career out of conflating prostitution with human trafficking. The data source was us.
Talk about strange bedfellows!
If I recall correctly our good friend PZ gave her interviews, then he gave her the PZ experience for which she was so greatful for that she paid him!!! :)
Boston Ampfan
11-02-09, 14:08
I have read the "thesis" and anyone who does so will see that her agenda is clear, as you have said.
Call me naive if you wish, but I've seen no evidence that the ladies at the places I've visited were being coerced into their line of work, or that they were under legal age. I would not be happy if I did detect this. I, for one, would find it repulsive to pay for the companionship of a lady who was forced or coerced in any way, or who was not old enough to make her own decisions! What's better in life than two adults freely agreeing to have a good time together? Not much, IMHO.
The faculty sponsor was Donna Hughes, who has made a career out of conflating prostitution with human trafficking. The data source was us.
Talk about strange bedfellows!
I have read the "thesis" and anyone who does so will see that her agenda is clear, as you have said.It seems the author may also be gay - yet another biased view:
Thank you to my partner, De***ee
Tee Time72
11-02-09, 17:07
Paid a visit to One on Monday. I was a bit alarmed to see a News truck parked a block away on Atwells but they looked like they were packing up after a noon time live report. I think it was channel 12 but I could be wrong. I decided to continue and parked several blocks away. By the time I walked back, they were gone. Coast clear for a discrete entrance.
Inside it was business as usual and they said it was slow. Of course Mondays usually are.
I've been searching the TV channel web sites and only found this story from a few days ago.
http://www2.turnto10.com/jar/video/detail/3d8efd7a-16ff-102d-bc4d-001ec92a4a0d/26044/
In this report, LE says they will be enforcing it but not as thier top priority. Time will only tell.
Hmmm, went to Merriam-Webster and I just can not find that word!! Was that a "slip of the tongue"?
Anyway, talked to the owner today of a long established AMP. He is one of those owners who have stayed low key and fly’s way below the radar. He claims business as usual; he is legally entitled as well as licensed in the city of PVD to have his staff administer “body rubs”. So I guess the point I make is that if you had established a relationship with the management or a particular girl/girls, and there is a mutual trust, things should be just fine. I would stay on the down low for the first month because god only knows what those 3 low rent PVD television stations are planning. Common sense my friends
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/11/carcieri-to-sign-prostitution.html
I've scoured the web and can not find any reference to when the gov. Will sign the bill except for "possibly as early next week".
Where did you see or find "Tuesday" specifically?
DaddysLookin
11-02-09, 18:48
I have not contributed in quite some time as I have been unusually busy but had just a little extra time this afternoon. As is my practice, I try to visit new places and offer a report.
I ventured to 100 Fountain Street in Providence and visited Capitol Massage.
They advertise like mad on CL and while they say non sexual. You and I sometimes know a little better. In fact, I thought it may be a "place ahead of the curve" offering discrete extras, preparing for the eventuality which is soon to be upon us.
I arrived, and I feed the meter, the place is in the shadow of the Sportsman, which gives me a good feeling. The front of the building is reminiscent of the combat zone in Boston. There is the neon OPEN, I enter and then have to ring the bell to get in. All good signs.
I get in and am met by Jess. She is twenty something, kinda cute, and I can visualize her performing a variety of functions on the little guy.
Then it starts.
I have to fill out the massage new client registration. All bull shit of course. She grabs my intro fee of $59.00 (a figure I recall. Nod nod, wink wink).
Off to the room, and they have a ton of them (also a good sign). She tells me to undress, leave underwear on and to lay down and drape myself to my chest. Sounding bad.
Notfornutthin, but I have had 5,000 plus massages and whenever someone tells me to leave underwear on, we are playing insecure amateur hour here.
She comes in, totally unprepared bumping into everything and gets to the action itself. She rubs and rubs and rubs. I ask where she went to school locally and tells me she is untrained. Immediately, I think that there has to be a reason why someone would come here as her massage was OK, but uninspired. I wait for the question, the hint, the caress of the ass. IT NEVER CAME, nor did I.
I get changed and on the way out, there is a woman at the desk who I can only describe as Elvira of vampire fame. Jess gives me a slip of paper with her info on it and there was a hot little smiling blond number there as well.
I have descent radar and I tell you that there M U S T be extras available, but I did not ask the right question or make the right move, or something else. You could feel it in the air.
So, if someone has inside info or perhaps knows Jess a little better than I do, please get in touch. On a purely pragmatic level, no reason to visit again or ever.
One note, as I was leaving, apparently Jess had mentioned to Elvira that I asked where she went to school and Elvira asked me three times how I enjoyed my rub. First time that word was ever used and all the artwork says massage. As far as I can see, they are operating illegally and are unlicensed by the state, as I am aware of the requirements for a massage therapist license in RI, and they are comprehensive and time consuming to fulfill.
I hope someone, ANYONE has the "magic word" to say to get some action. The girls looked cute and offer a different scene when not in the mood for fried rice.
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/11/carcieri-to-sign-prostitution.html
Leisure King
11-03-09, 01:01
I've scoured the web and can not find any reference to when the gov. Will sign the bill except for "possibly as early next week".
Where did you see or find "Tuesday" specifically?I heard on WBRU tonight that the bill will be signed by the Govenor on Tuesday at 1:00pm!
Jhonny8770
11-03-09, 05:27
http://digitalcommons.uri.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=1137&context=srhonorsprog
read ms shapiro's thesis; seems she has some issues with me, huh?
i only wish she wouldn't fabricate/distort facts to suit her needs (see note 113, page 65):
1. my original post below clearly states in its first sentence: "in vt".
*that would be vermont, not rhode island.
2. this was a caucasian woman, not asian, in her 3 level, 2 car garage home in burlington.
*ever seen the old lady in 'something about mary'?; she's white.
*never made any mention of her 'pathetic situation'; only her lack of honesty regarding her age/appearance and her suspect 'sniffles'.
*fyi melanie - not everyone who drinks is an alcoholic, not everyone who does cocaine is 'drug addicted' and 'pathetic'.
you need to step off your soapbox, actually experience life outside your ivy covered walls prior to pointing your pious finger and criticizing others
3. also stated that i tried to leave, but the 'victim' would not allow it and disrobed/'assaulted' me first (which was conveniently left out).
*isn't that a crime?
4. describing me as a "sadistic necrophilic" is completely inaccurate.
*i happen to prefer confident, empowered women who exude self esteem (ad that i responded to).
*i prefer a woman to be involved, vocal and seeking pleasure as i am.
*my posts speak volumes to the character of the women i've met in the hobby.
if ms shapiro has such a desire to quote me/us, why is it only her distorted, negative view?
why didn't she mention how i request, in 'nearly' every review i write (as do others), for the community to treat the ladies at amp's/escorts with the respect they deserve.
no, she chose to 'publish' the one brush i had (and stated so) with s&m (not a crime!).
makes me wonder how much else she took liberties with in her 'thesis' rant.
while i have no problem with ladies who 'adore' other ladies, this woman's overall take on sex, imo, comes from a serious man/penis-hating pov.
well, no shocker here; her acknowledgements thanks another of her kind (and her faculty sponsor), the wishing-i-was-born-a-man donna hughes, phd (ha!!).
really, if these women hate us so much for doing what nature ingrained into us over a hundred millenia or so (breed - see animal planet/pbs), why-o-why do they act, dress, cut their hair, talk and yes, fuck like men (see strap-on/dildo)?!?
again for ms shapiro/hughes benefit, i'll state that in my 'travels', i've never, ever had a woman say 'no', 'don't' or 'stop'.
if they did so, i would stop what we were doing immediately!!
if i suspected that a woman was coerced/****/'trafficked', i would not 'partake', report it here (and other forums) and look for a way to report it to le.
this is not about violence, it's about consentual sex, period.
yes ladies, some of us (including the 'victims') actually like sex.
and while not everyone has/enjoys sex the way that ms' shapiro/hughes would like, it does not make it wrong/criminal (imo).
as a matter of fact, in some states, the sexual congress that ms. shapiro and her 'partner' practice is criminal and can be prosecuted.
remember reading an article that a (not sure if still active) ma blue law classifies any sex other than man/woman coitus (for procreation only) as 'sodomy'.
coming from/living a lifestlye that often comes under attack by the religious right/conservatives, you would think that ms' shapiro/hughes would be more 'progressive' in their thinking.
wouldn't legalizing prostitution help these 'trafficked victims' much more than criminalizing it?
wouldn't it help these ladies by becoming members of 'legitimate' society, becoming taxpayers, getting health insurance/benefits, removing the fear of prosecution and allow them to call police when abused as any woman would at her place of 'employment'?
but, this is not actually about helping the 'victims', is it?
this is about getting a truly 'tunneled' pov into magazines/on television/into newspapers.
it's about getting published, leading to book deals/rights and going on ellen degeneres' show to tell the world that mens penis' are evil (in ri).
i'll end this by saying that we (amp/escort patrons) support a community of women who do, in fact, appreciate us as much as we do them.
we not only support these ladies, but in a lot of cases, their families too.
my atf (who's still on 'vacation') owns a home in flushing, ny and drives a 5 series bmw (showed me her car and pics of her home which she rents; very smart woman).
figures she'll be retired by 45 (she's 27) if all goes to her plan.
criminalizing prostitution will not stem/stop the worlds oldest profession.
this helps no one but the pimps/organized crime/privatized prison systems.
(ca annual budget for it's privatized prisons - $9 billion).
more to follow
j
don't worry about it cray, shit happens; it's what you do after that matters most. get back on the train as soon as you can.
your story reminds me of this experience i had with a b&s "hot massage" in vt when i was there a few years ago. had a picture on cl that showed her body in a bathing suit and listed her age as 37 (love hot, experienced women). shoulda known; tgtbt, 99% of the time, is tgtbt. she was 57 if she was a day and she was sniffin' away like she been doin' lines for a week and stopped 10 minutes before i got there; 'i have to cold'; yeah right. all i could think about was running away while screaming like a little girl! (there's an image huh? ).
so. i go in and take my medicine like a man. she knew i was pissed when she opened the door and the b&s was revealed (said she needs to upgrade her pics, but no money to do so), so she said she'd knock off 75 (she shoulda paid me! ). anyway, she brings me up to her room and gets naked. from the side (minus her neck and head) she wasn't that bad if you squinted/ shades pulled, but when she turned her back, the 'old lady ass' was revealed (yikes, maybe 67! ). kept her bra on and made her way over to me. came in for a kiss and i turned my head (ha, now she knows how it feels; sure she's done this a time or two during her 60+ years in the trade). so, she backs away slightly, takes her bra off and out they come; banana-skin, old lady titties (ever seen the old lady in 'something about mary'? ); i shit you not!
remember that running/screaming like a little girl thing, i was almost there (again!) when she started rubbing jhonny jr through my pants (which he always likes).
so. i drop trou and she starts with a bbbj and it ain't half-bad (with my eyes closed). she pulls out a jimmy hat and puts it on with her mouth. she then proceeds to bend over the 4-poster mattress and says, 'f**k me hard! '. now the view didn't get any better with her bent over, but i just went for it and thought about the last beautiful asian i 'mastered'.
so. i'm pounding away and she's making noises/talking some erratic shit about who she's known/had (said jagger/bowie and some other names i didn't know). all this did was f**kup my fantasy and before i knew it, jhonny jr was now jj (know what i mean! ). unfrickin' believeable! i mumble something about aarp/keepin' her mouthshut unless a bj is involved and start to get dressed. she's rubbin' me sayin' "what's wrong"? ! ? (running/screaming little girl, i need you! ) as i'm pulling my tshirt over my head, she gets on her knees and pulls out jj and goes to town.
so. i closed my eyes and began my 'assault' of her throat. i'm not kiddin'! you might call it a 'consentual raping'. i made her gag again and again; jammed deep in her throat and left it there til her eyes were watering like small, black rivers (too much mascara). i called her every name i could think of and she just took it. finally i blasted in her throat with my balls on her chin. she just let it go down and i'm sure she thought it was over, but i wasn't through. she started to say something, but i told her 'shut up; this is my dime'! had her lie on the bed (on her back) with her head hanging over the edge and 'went to town' again. i said to "suck me like a wh*re-vacuum while i facef**k your lieing mouth" which she did and after another ten minutes of cr, i thanked her by ending round 2 with a very nice face-spraying. she laid there trying to catch her breath/moving her jaw slowly up/down as i wiped myself clean with her bedsheets and got dressed. dropped my c-note next to her head, told her she should be more honest and maybe try offering 'wh*re-vacuum' as a service.
not usually into dominance (haven't done it since), but it was different/fun (fully expected to see the blue meanies appear in my rearview as i was driving back).
don't have any details. name, #, address, cl post; more or less forgot about this til your posting. only time jr's failed me (mid-coitus even). my advice as i said at the top, climb back on that horse asap.
good luck, man.
be safe out there.
more to follow,
j
Anyone going out before noon today?
Too risky?
(Forget the question above - regular member's posts are delayed and I'd be cutting it too damn close to 1 PM.)
Its time to investigate new avenues.
Stressed Out
11-03-09, 10:50
It seems the author may also be gay - yet another biased view:
Isn't it nice that she thanks her partner Desiree. Between the obvious bias, the distortion or facts and the lack of checking into the 'facts' she used (one example she called 'D Williams' a he...when a simple checking of the facts (City Hall or this board for two) would confirm it isn't a he but a she this 'thesis' shouldn't have even been allowed to be published. But since it was done for political reasons truth goes out the door.
And yes I do believe that what she and her partner are 'doing' is still illegal in most states. Maybe she should be looked into for assaulting the 'morals' of another person.
And BTW-I have nothing against those with different 'views' except and when they have a double standard and try to 'enforce' those views on us.
So hopefully all those 'god save the world' self righteous womens groups will start forking out the grants to all those who will now lose their income.
Leisure King
11-03-09, 11:34
I had an early day so I thought I would take advantage of it plus with the chat on the board about the changing of the law on our favorite hobby was another reason for heading down to Bali on Monday afternoon.
Called ahead to request Wendy who I met on my last visit but Mama said she was on vacation but had a new girl. Talked into the vestibule and noticed they had the Christmas decorations already up. Mama answered the door and asked if I just called, which I said yes and we chatted a bit as she escorted me to room two. I noticed the colored Christmas lights ran down the corridor and there was a small white Christmas tree in one of the treatment rooms.
I started too get undress, in walked CoCo (see previous Bali FR about CoCo) from my last visit and she remembered me and give me a big hug and collected the house fee. She came back and escorted me by hand to the shower room; the shower was very good not rushed like at nighttime or weekend visits! Mama called out to CoCo that her regular appointment and she made a mix-up, so they swapped out CoCo for Penny a lovely 30ish (I'm bad at this part) girl with long black hair, 5'-5" with out heels, no tattoos, 34 or 36D bolt-ons with very small but long nipples say about ½", nicely groomed kitty; very great attitude 10.
Penny brought me into the sauna to dry off I sat down on the bench and notice the same magazine as my last visit. Penny walked back in with a fresh towel for me to change into, I sat down again and she walked back in with a cup of water, after about two minutes passed Penny came back to escort me back to the treatment room for a 20-minute towel rub and walk on back it was one of the most enjoyable rubs I have ever received in a AMP. We go through the standard positions; CBJ, HJ, Doggie, RCG and Miss after all of that Penny asked if I would like another shower? Who would say no to that, we both walked quickly back to the shower room in towels and Penny soaped me up quickly and rinsed me down with the hand shower. Back to the treatment room where Penny helped me get dressed and I handed here a the standard tip. Another great time at Bali, time too lay low too see what Uncle Leo is going to do with his new powers! Play it safe my fellow friends!
Leisure King
When do you think they will start their raids? Law goes into effect at 1pm.
While I have only posted once before, I am a long time reader of the forum and have been visiting the spas in Providence and Rhode Island for the better part of 5 years. I just finished watching Channel 10 News and it looks like the governor signed the bill out. Lawing indoor prostitution in Rhode Island. Not sure if this is in effect immediately or a date will be set. Although the News did make it did sound like it was in effect presently. I am pissed as I know all of you are. Total bullsh_t! As we all know, this is not about human trafficking or law enforcement ability to enforce the law, but rather the political agenda of Hughes, Gianni, Carcierri, and others in this wonderful small state. In my humble opinion, legalizing would have been a much better option for a number of reasons. Especially, if those in power were really concerned with a trafficking issue. Now, everything will go underground as in the other states. While I promise to be more careful, I still will continue to visit the establishments and continue to treat the women who provide the services with the utmost of respect. What a shame! Just wanted to add my 2 cents.
Donna Hughes
11-03-09, 20:27
No Fun For YOU!
It is my sincere hope that tons and tons of women will be caught, sentenced to prison, and converted to lesbianism.
I tried to turn out JoAnne Giannini but she wants to stay with her cop husband.
I need to teach these Asian women to hate men and love women, especially women who hate men.
Sorry Boys, looks like I will be DATY on all those lovely Asians, because I scared them away from you!!!
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/11/governor-carcieri-signed-into.html
The Professor
Hunglatinman
11-04-09, 09:24
You are pathetic!
No Fun For YOU!
It is my sincere hope that tons and tons of women will be caught, sentenced to prison, and converted to lesbianism.
I tried to turn out JoAnne Giannini but she wants to stay with her cop husband.
I need to teach these Asian women to hate men and love women, especially women who hate men.
Sorry Boys, looks like I will be DATY on all those lovely Asians, because I scared them away from you!!!
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/11/governor-carcieri-signed-into.html
The Professor
Badlarry76
11-04-09, 12:01
Here's hoping this forum will stay informative and we can keep each other aware of what's going on out there. The first raids will probably make the Projo front page, but I hope we can report the following ones here. I think everyone would agree human trafficking is reprehensible, so these politicians seeking their 15 minutes of fame used that to close the door on a service that only stimulates this miserable economy. What a joke! The priorities of this RI government are absolutely F**KED! Keep us informed! Thanks
-BL
Ok, I'm going to start a private club where your first drink at the bar costs you $150.00 And I guarantee that you will get lucky with the hot asian chick sitting on the bar stool next to you. So where's the problem here?
J
Here's hoping this forum will stay informative and we can keep each other aware of what's going on out there. The first raids will probably make the Projo front page, but I hope we can report the following ones here. I think everyone would agree human trafficking is reprehensible, so these politicians seeking their 15 minutes of fame used that to close the door on a service that only stimulates this miserable economy. What a joke! The priorities of this RI government are absolutely F**KED! Keep us informed! Thanks
-BL
Here's the latest. I honestly feel really bad for quite a few of the providers. RI GA SOL - moral nazis!
http://www.projo.com/news/content/PROSTITUTION_LAW_04_11-04-09_JDGB7T3_v7.37cf9cd.html
How fu**ing ironic - I get my Senior wings the day after this travesty of justice in RI!!!
Jhonny8770
11-04-09, 16:07
You are pathetic!
"Originally Posted by Donna Hughes
No Fun For YOU!
It is my sincere hope that tons and tons of women will be caught, sentenced to prison, and converted to lesbianism.
I tried to turn out JoAnne Giannini but she wants to stay with her cop husband.
I need to teach these Asian women to hate men and love women, especially women who hate men.
Sorry Boys, looks like I will be DATY on all those lovely Asians, because I scared them away from you!!!
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/11/g...igned-into.html
The Professor"
I actually thought that was pretty funny.
Then, a few moments later, thought (and still do) that it's probably not that far from the truth (left is getting pretty frickin' scary too!).
So now we have the radical right and far left ganging up on us (enemy of my enemy <men> is my friend?).
What Ms' Shapiro/Hughes don't understand is by helping/aiding the govt officials/radical right, they are beginning the undoing of any/all progressive gains.
It's obvious they read this forum (and others).
Question for you ladies:
Look ahead 5-10 years from now.
Who do you think the witch-hunt goes after next in their 'moral war'?
More to follow.
J
Existierende
11-04-09, 16:21
I thought it was funny too.
I don't actually think that Hughes is far left. She is a fan of former President Bush. And her position is basically that sex is bad in all its forms. For example, Hughes tried to shut down a sexual education workshop in Pawtucket.
http://providencedailydose.com/2009/09/25/pawtucket-opposes-sex-education/
So Hughes is basically a right-winger dressed up in feminist clothing. Most, but not all, left-wing feminists are sex-positive. They understand that, as Jhonny pointed out, regulating sex is always going to hurt women more than men (with the exception of gay men, I guess.) There are some left-wing feminists that are still anti-sex, but this was more common in the 70s and 80s.
Anyway, my point is, don't blame this on the feminists, or at least not all of them. Many of them support legalization and the rights of sex-workers.
I actually thought that was pretty funny.
Then, a few moments later, thought (and still do) that it's probably not that far from the truth (left is now getting pretty frickin' scary too!).
So now we have the radical right and far left ganging up on us.
What Ms' Shapiro/Hughes don't understand is by helping/aiding the govt officials/radical right, they are beginning the undoing of any/all progressive gains.
It's obvious they read this forum (and others).
Question for you ladies: Who do you think the witch-hunt goes after next in their 'moral war'?
More to follow.
J
AsianLPGAfan
11-04-09, 16:48
I imagine it will be difficult to get appointments with established providers for awhile. I imagine some will ask for "references"
but in time they will feel the supply of customers dry up, their cashflow drop and new customers will find "regular options elsewhere.
A lose lose for all I must say.
Boston Ampfan
11-04-09, 18:38
The Journal article is interesting in one respect:
“I usually have four or five girls working,” he said. “I have two workers … They refuse to come to work. They’re just nervous. Anxiety was etched into the faces of a group of Korean women who gathered for lunch Tuesday inside the Grand Slam Pizza & Grill in Pawtucket"
OK, then, so which is it? The girls are forced to work but at the same time they are scared off today by the new law? If they were forced to work and required to live on the premises, how could they say no, and where could they go? Maybe the 'sexual slavery' problem exists and if so it should be eliminated. But for the Journal and that lesbian hooker's URI 'thesis' to convey the impression that it is all-pervasive and endemic is clearly what we all know it to be: Unadulterated, steaming Horse S@@@*!
[QUOTE=Newday53]Here's the latest. I honestly feel really bad for quite a few of the providers. RI GA SOL - moral nazis!
http://www.projo.com/news/content/PROSTITUTION_LAW_04_11-04-09_JDGB7T3_v7.37cf9cd.html
How fu**ing ironic - I get my Senior wings the day after this travesty of justice in RI!!![/QUOTE
Member #4868
11-04-09, 23:42
A lot of economic talk about the recent decision has been thrown out there.
I will give you a small sampling:
I bring my small comp down for an overnight every year for a two day conf.
We eat, drink, and rent rooms.
While I do not determine the evening activities, I do book the trip mostly for me enjoying the AMP scene. Next year we will not be doing an overnight.
No rooms , only lunch, and of course no playing.
Way to stimulate RI economy!!!
Member #5805
11-05-09, 00:02
Nice spin but not true.
I thought it was funny too.
I don't actually think that Hughes is far left. She is a fan of former President Bush. And her position is basically that sex is bad in all its forms. For example, Hughes tried to shut down a sexual education workshop in Pawtucket.
http://providencedailydose.com/2009/09/25/pawtucket-opposes-sex-education/
So Hughes is basically a right-winger dressed up in feminist clothing. Most, but not all, left-wing feminists are sex-positive. They understand that, as Jhonny pointed out, regulating sex is always going to hurt women more than men (with the exception of gay men, I guess.) There are some left-wing feminists that are still anti-sex, but this was more common in the 70s and 80s.
Anyway, my point is, don't blame this on the feminists, or at least not all of them. Many of them support legalization and the rights of sex-workers.
Jhonny8770
11-05-09, 06:22
Ok, I'm going to start a private club where your first drink at the bar costs you $150.00 And I guarantee that you will get lucky with the hot asian chick sitting on the bar stool next to you. So where's the problem here?
J
F*CKING BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!
I hit Mega Millions this Friday and this WILL become reality!
Thanks J26
J
Stressed Out
11-05-09, 12:21
F*CKING BRILLIANT!!!!!!!!!!!
I hit Mega Millions this Friday and this WILL become reality!
Thanks J26
J
Absolutely great idea! A nice get together of males and females for a drink or two and you happen to get together with the girl next to you. After the drink no money changes hands and you get a nice evening.
Sounds like a regular date...drinks, fun..pick-up the girl next to you and you hook up.
And no one can complain about the price of the drink...although I would charge a lot less and you can each have a couple. So two watered down drinks (don't want to get drunk) each equals 4 drinks at 40 apiece. Of course you would have to find a way to get the donation to her...don't want to worry about marked bills or the like. I like it.
Or another idea. For the more upscale and reputable escorts you can set-up a paypal account (or another type of money sending device that would be untrackable-maybe green dot) and send the donation a few days ahead of time. Then when the time comes meet someplace and get together. You can even make it a bar or someplace like that where people go to meet everyday. It would take some time and a lot of effort for LE to put the flow together and would eliminate any discussions about money and any donation changing hands that day.
So i want to meet A and I send her the donation a few days ahead of time in an untrackable form. Them we meet, hook up and go back for a romp. Juast like picking up a girl at the bar! Of course this would involve trust on both sides but I think we have a few very trustworthy ladies and gents in out midst.
I go to a long established spa in the city of Providence. My session goes like this: I arrive, mama san takes me to a room, I give her $60, she leaves and I get undressed. A young Korean girl comes in takes me for a nice table shower, followed by sauna, and then a quality massage for 30-40 minutes. Then after the flip she gives me a hand release/happy ending. I never asked for it, no price was ever negotiated. After I'm cleaned up and dressed, I tip her $40, maybe $60. Have I broken a law? Has she? Is there a lawyer in the house? Just wondering...
We all know what happened 30 years ago with the loophole. Something else happened too and now they may be leaving. Funny coincidence.
PROVIDENCE — The Big East Conference headquarters have been downtown since its founding 30 years ago by a Providence College athletics director, but city officials are concerned whether the nation’s largest college Division I sports conference will stay.
I'm pleased that my fellow hobby'ists are thinking about that post. Great minds think alike.
Are There Enough of Us?
Or
"Yeah, There's an App for That"
Maybe it's time we quit moaning about this new law and hash out a solution; maybe on this board. With modern tech, can't we solve our own problem? Yeah, there's an app for that.
I liked the paypal-pay-in-advance idea. Maybe you get a digital receipt.
BlackBerry
You can check your factory inventory in Ohio while sitting on a plane in Miami and re-order precisely what you need from Hadji in Mumbai. all before the flight attendant tells you to bring your seat forward.
We can't help these girls out! And keep working those that want to keep working? I think we can.
So far there are 3 of us in our private gentleman's club. When we get it up to a critical mass of say, 10?. boom. We have enough to start an organization of well-meaning men to secure a spot for private meetings on the ground floor with a couple of "couch" areas. There aren't enough places out of bizness to find one? Next: I. D. Cards. Sign ups. Dues. Paypal. Next: staff? Hmmm. That's the hard part.
I go to a long established spa in the city of Providence. My session goes like this: I arrive, mama san takes me to a room, I give her $60, she leaves and I get undressed. A young Korean girl comes in takes me for a nice table shower, followed by sauna, and then a quality massage for 30-40 minutes. Then after the flip she gives me a hand release/happy ending. I never asked for it, no price was ever negotiated. After I'm cleaned up and dressed, I tip her $40, maybe $60. Have I broken a law? Has she? Is there a lawyer in the house? Just wondering...
That's how it often happens in NYC - the provider doesn't even ask - just proceeds with HR and you tip. Maybe that's THEIR loophole.
If you get caught, maybe you could claim sexual assault???
Seriously, would be nice if there were a lawyer in the house.
Member #5805
11-05-09, 13:10
SO
Like the thought but Paypal / Green Dot are traceable and then you start to look at Federal Mail Fraud Charges or consipracy to commit RICO Fraud. We know how that worked out for a certain morning talk show host.
Absolutely great idea! A nice get together of males and females for a drink or two and you happen to get together with the girl next to you. After the drink no money changes hands and you get a nice evening.
Sounds like a regular date...drinks, fun..pick-up the girl next to you and you hook up.
And no one can complain about the price of the drink...although I would charge a lot less and you can each have a couple. So two watered down drinks (don't want to get drunk) each equals 4 drinks at 40 apiece. Of course you would have to find a way to get the donation to her...don't want to worry about marked bills or the like. I like it.
Or another idea. For the more upscale and reputable escorts you can set-up a paypal account (or another type of money sending device that would be untrackable-maybe green dot) and send the donation a few days ahead of time. Then when the time comes meet someplace and get together. You can even make it a bar or someplace like that where people go to meet everyday. It would take some time and a lot of effort for LE to put the flow together and would eliminate any discussions about money and any donation changing hands that day.
So i want to meet A and I send her the donation a few days ahead of time in an untrackable form. Them we meet, hook up and go back for a romp. Juast like picking up a girl at the bar! Of course this would involve trust on both sides but I think we have a few very trustworthy ladies and gents in out midst.
AsianLPGAfan
11-05-09, 13:36
We all know what happened 30 years ago with the loophole. Something else happened too and now they may be leaving. Funny coincidence.How many conventions may get shifted away from Prov RI because the fun is gone now.
How many "guys nights" out in Providence will now be reduced?
I know this isn't like GM closing the "only factory" where everyone worked but besides the "workers" feeling this pinch the local hotels food and drink places will too.
I go to a long established spa in the city of Providence. My session goes like this: I arrive, mama san takes me to a room, I give her $60, she leaves and I get undressed. A young Korean girl comes in takes me for a nice table shower, followed by sauna, and then a quality massage for 30-40 minutes. Then after the flip she gives me a hand release/happy ending. I never asked for it, no price was ever negotiated. After I'm cleaned up and dressed, I tip her $40, maybe $60. Have I broken a law? Has she? Is there a lawyer in the house? Just wondering...Do you know what's going to happen to the spa you are referring to? I've had the same experience there several times. Love the place, and have always been treated well. Didn't expect the HE the first time there and have always considered that part of the massage. Would go there even without the HE.
Beleive it or not, I feel really bad for the people that work there. They have always been very friendly, decent people.
Boston Ampfan
11-05-09, 14:22
I did read the law and it appears that they have thought of the kind of scenario you have described.
First, LE could allege that the place you visited for HE had a 'reputation' for providing that service--you went in the door and therefore you are a violator.
Second, the law does not seem to be concerned with naughty talk, sexual innuendo and general discussion so much as with actual behavior, so she would be in violation due because she touched one or more of the special prohibited parts of your body described in the law--whether you asked or not would seem to be irrelevant.
Besides which: Are we sure LE will always be honest about what transpires in the privacy of the massage suite? They can say just about anything they wish. Who will prevail in court? A uniformed officer or a young lady who can hardly speak English?
Just my .02!
I go to a long established spa in the city of Providence. My session goes like this: I arrive, mama san takes me to a room, I give her $60, she leaves and I get undressed. A young Korean girl comes in takes me for a nice table shower, followed by sauna, and then a quality massage for 30-40 minutes. Then after the flip she gives me a hand release/happy ending. I never asked for it, no price was ever negotiated. After I'm cleaned up and dressed, I tip her $40, maybe $60. Have I broken a law? Has she? Is there a lawyer in the house? Just wondering...
Orrrr they could buy some farm land in Uxbridge/Douglas area just up the road on 146. Set up a make shift chapel. Call it a religious organization. File for 501c3 status and be tax exempt. We can mail our donations in by check each month made payable to the K-Parish (get a tax deduction at the end of the year) then we just show up for "Mass" every Sunday and listen to reverand mama-san preach, pick out our alter girl and off to the confessional we go LOL.
First, LE could allege that the place you visited for HE had a 'reputation' for providing that service--you went in the door and therefore you are a violator.
That reputation bit is the stickler. I still say a good lawyer could fight this as hearsay but at what cost to the defendant? I know the authors of that URI "thesis" and other lists for that matter insist places have a "reputation" so I'm sure that's keeping most of us away but where are the actual facts - previous busts, arrest records, hidden surveillance, marked bills, etc. to support these "reputations"? Hell, we could start writing here about "fun" at legit massage places and GIVE them a reputation. Now what - do they close down the entire massage industry in Rhode Island?
And, BA, you are right - the cops will say anything - learned that the hard way a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away (different hobby but still a personal freedom issue) - and with all the hoopla and arrest report requirements with the new law, they'll make it stick.
Guilty until proven innocent. Man this pisses me off. Our forefathers must be rolling in their graves, alone of course, as we all know about the reputations cemeteries have.
P.S. My apologies to the group for the rant. I will post all further discussion on the General Topics forum where it probably belongs. Saw Flatspd's latest post and his is more appropriate to this forum than mine. Good work, Flatspd. Parking in Lily's, man they've got balls - probably LE - got the place to themselves!
Since I don't want to TOFTT on this. I choose to tour the amps by car Wednesday.
CH No open sign
HH saw a monger leaving 1 truck there
Lily 2 cars looked open
Sunflower sign lit no car front or back
Pleasant sign was lit no cars
Harmony 1/2 lit sign, lots of cars that could have been inthe restuarnt
FE sign lit some cars in front
I am going to let this play out a little. Any providers can PM me.
Be careful!
If they go by reputation, then clearly we have a lot of work to do.
Lillys is full of ugly old women. At One Spa, they must install the girl's panties with an arc welder. Fact is, all sex workers are nagging ball-busters with terrible attitudes. The fat saggy Asians are the worst of the worst.
If only they could be more like the sleek, sweet, sexy and loving American girls that you can easily meet and take home from any regular bar. The only way to improve one of those girls is to marry her and wait a few years. The only thing she wants is to make you happy!
Ugh. Writing that was harder than it looks!
Donna Hughes
11-05-09, 17:59
Condoms $150 with a free demonstration. Does that work?
Then there is no money for sex, you are just paying for a really expensive condom.
Boston Ampfan
11-05-09, 18:34
there's gotta be an answer! Suppose, for example, that Mama went into the room with the provider and the customer....and after customer got settled, provider stood back and asked, "Do you think I'm pretty?" And instead of answering, in-the-know customer would reach out toward provider's breasts and gently touch them. Girl would immediately know customer's interest...and she would know that customer was not LE. Customers who were LE or otherwise clueless would not know what to do....or would be (presumably) prohibited from touching her first. This way, both Mama and girl would witness what transpired.
SO
Like the thought but Paypal / Green Dot are traceable and then you start to look at Federal Mail Fraud Charges or consipracy to commit RICO Fraud. We know how that worked out for a certain morning talk show host.
Existierende
11-05-09, 19:15
Nice spin but not true.What's not true? That there aren't pro-sex feminists? It's completely true. To take one example, there is a strip club (Lusty Lady) in San Francisco owned and staffed by women. Feminist women. COYOTE, an organization devoted to advocating for sex workers and legalizing prostitution, is a bunch of feminists.
If they go by reputation, then clearly we have a lot of work to do.
Lillys is full of ugly old women. At One Spa, they must install the girl's panties with an arc welder. Fact is, all sex workers are nagging ball-busters with terrible attitudes. The fat saggy Asians are the worst of the worst.
Nah dude, you got it all wrong:
Ad:
Old Blond.
Location: Smith Hill, Providence
I've got the pu**y, I make the rules.
NO calls from taxpayers accepted.
Voting public ignored.
Intelligent, progressive minds will be asked to leave immediately.
Blind lemmings welcome.
Member #4868
11-05-09, 19:47
It seems to me that the "reputation" thing seems to be the big sticking point.
I say this because the law seems to differ in this respect from , lets say MA.
Ok , so we have a Spa with a reputation, that unfortunately we helped create.
Lets also say that this spa is One Spa. Now One Spa has a quite illustrious reputation but unfortunately ceases operations due to the unfortunate events.
But a funny thing happens; a new, fresh , reputation free spa opens as Spa B and Spa B requires some form of "membership" to help maintain its stellar reputation. Oh, and the board comes up with a new way to exchange info to protect the virginal, reputation free therapists.
Sorry. Just some rambling, random thougts.
pwh
That reputation bit is the stickler. I still say a good lawyer could fight this as hearsay but at what cost to the defendant? I know the authors of that URI "thesis" and other lists for that matter insist places have a "reputation" so I'm sure that's keeping most of us away but where are the actual facts. Previous busts, arrest records, hidden surveillance, marked bills, etc. To support these "reputations"? Hell, we could start writing here about "fun" at legit massage places and GIVE them a reputation. Now what. Do they close down the entire massage industry in Rhode Island?
And, BA, you are right. The cops will say anything. Learned that the hard way a long time ago in a galaxy far, far away (different hobby but still a personal freedom issue). And with all the hoopla and arrest report requirements with the new law, they'll make it stick.
Guilty until proven innocent. Man this pisses me off. Our forefathers must be rolling in their graves, alone of course, as we all know about the reputations cemeteries have.
P. S. My apologies to the group for the rant. I will post all further discussion on the General Topics forum where it probably belongs. Saw Flatspd's latest post and his is more appropriate to this forum than mine. Good work, Flatspd. Parking in Lily's, man they've got balls! Responding further to the point.
Reputation evidence will not be a major factor in police action now or for the immediate future. Anything that happened before the law was signed was not illegal. Therefore, any person engaged as either a worker or a client has a reputation as a law abiding citizen.
Police do not want to do more work than they have to, but must, and will respond to complaints. A call comes in with some complaint, the police must investigate. If the police establish that prostitution has occurred in some place after the law was signed, then reputation evidence may become more relevant for issuing warrants
The police will be getting complaints from neighbors, and agitators like the good professor for the next couple of weeks, then things will quiet down.
The watchword is going to have to be discretion. The days of display ads in the phoenix with coupons are over, but this law, like every effort to shut down sex work cannot wipe it out, only drive it under ground.
The only reputations that will be important is yours. If you're arrested, then, there is no way you can protect your reputation. Be careful.
It seems to me that the "reputation" thing seems to be the big sticking point.
I say this because the law seems to differ in this respect from , lets say MA.
Ok , so we have a Spa with a reputation, that unfortunately we helped create.
Lets also say that this spa is One Spa. Now One Spa has a quite illustrious reputation but unfortunately ceases operations due to the unfortunate events.
But a funny thing happens; a new, fresh , reputation free spa opens as Spa B and Spa B requires some form of "membership" to help maintain its stellar reputation. Oh, and the board comes up with a new way to exchange info to protect the virginal, reputation free therapists.
Sorry. Just some rambling, random thougts.
pwh
There isn't a directory in the State House that lists all establishments with a "reputation", and if there was just who determined that the place had a "reputation"? How about if the wife of the governor slept around and everyone knew it? Would that mean she'd have a "reputation" and be subject to being raided?
Where I come from, just about any business containing the word "spa" is considered to have a reputation.
To me this is just a ridiculous term to allow those who want to close down a business to do so with impunity.
Member #5805
11-05-09, 23:55
Are you guys really that gullible to think that LE would not touch a providers breast or beautiful tulip to entrap them, it is a wonder that AMP fees have not hit $500 because it would appear that you guys will believe anything you are told. LE will use any means necessary to entrap these girls and the courts will believe them.
there's gotta be an answer! Suppose, for example, that Mama went into the room with the provider and the customer....and after customer got settled, provider stood back and asked, "Do you think I'm pretty?" And instead of answering, in-the-know customer would reach out toward provider's breasts and gently touch them. Girl would immediately know customer's interest...and she would know that customer was not LE. Customers who were LE or otherwise clueless would not know what to do....or would be (presumably) prohibited from touching her first. This way, both Mama and girl would witness what transpired.
Member #5805
11-05-09, 23:59
Your are on a good line of thought there but there can't be any sharing of info anywhere because each and everyone of us could be playing for the other team. It is just that before the other team was allowed to do the same thing we were so it was okay for them to do so on a legal basis. It is only now that we can go to jail and LE can loose (oh wait LE can still have their fun at the AMPS it will just be that we get busted for being in the next room after they bust a nut. I guess the answer is that we all join the police academy.
It seems to me that the "reputation" thing seems to be the big sticking point.
I say this because the law seems to differ in this respect from , lets say MA.
Ok , so we have a Spa with a reputation, that unfortunately we helped create.
Lets also say that this spa is One Spa. Now One Spa has a quite illustrious reputation but unfortunately ceases operations due to the unfortunate events.
But a funny thing happens; a new, fresh , reputation free spa opens as Spa B and Spa B requires some form of "membership" to help maintain its stellar reputation. Oh, and the board comes up with a new way to exchange info to protect the virginal, reputation free therapists.
Sorry. Just some rambling, random thougts.
pwh
Member #5805
11-06-09, 00:02
Unfortunatly, there was a list that was circulating around the state house that had every AMP listed with the services provided and the pricing. And guess who provided all of the research for them, thats right we all did, of course I provided them with a way to save money while doing the research so I did my part to slash the state budget by showing them how to save money on the General Assembly's slush fund that we all paid for.
There isn't a directory in the State House that lists all establishments with a "reputation", and if there was just who determined that the place had a "reputation"? How about if the wife of the governor slept around and everyone knew it? Would that mean she'd have a "reputation" and be subject to being raided?
Where I come from, just about any business containing the word "spa" is considered to have a reputation.
To me this is just a ridiculous term to allow those who want to close down a business to do so with impunity.
Savior Faire
11-06-09, 01:49
Ok, I'm going to start a private club where your first drink at the bar costs you $150.00 And I guarantee that you will get lucky with the hot asian chick sitting on the bar stool next to you. So where's the problem here?
J
If you can guarantee that the guy who buys the $150 drink will get lucky, then you must be paying the women, so it's prostitution.
Boston Ampfan
11-06-09, 08:57
Now, are you saying I'm naive and gullible to think that LE protocol would prevent them from reaching out to touch a firm, young breast with just the hint of a pointed, swelling nipple showing through the skimpy top of a bikini...perhaps even giving the lovely nip a little squeeze? Maybe, just maybe, I'll need to clear my head a little by visiting my favorite AMP today! I am missing that little beautiful tulip....
OK, so maybe my idea won't fly...
Are you guys really that gullible to think that LE would not touch a providers breast or beautiful tulip to entrap them, it is a wonder that AMP fees have not hit $500 because it would appear that you guys will believe anything you are told. LE will use any means necessary to entrap these girls and the courts will believe them.
Police do not want to do more work than they have to, but must, and will respond to complaints.
Unfortunately, there is a kind of quota system tied to the new law:
11-34.1-13. Reporting. -- On or before January 15, 2010, and semi-annually thereafter, each law enforcement agency in this state shall file with the Governor, the Attorney General, the Speaker of the House of Representatives and the President of the Senate a report concerning the
agency's enforcement of this chapter during the preceding six (6) month period. Each semi-annual report shall contain, but need not be limited to, the following information:
(1) The number of persons arrested pursuant to subsection 11-34.1-2(a), subsection 11-34.1-2(b), section 11-34.1-3, section 11-34.1-4, subsection 11-34.1-6(a), subsection 11-34.1-6(b),
and subsection 11-34.1-7 of this chapter;
(2) Of those arrested, the number of persons convicted, placed on probation, whose case is filed pursuant to section 12-10-12, whether those persons pled guilty or nolo contendere or were found guilty after trial by judge or jury;
(3) The fines and/or sentences of those persons identified pursuant to subdivision (2) of this section; and
(4) A summary of the amounts of fines levied and the lengths of sentences identified pursuant to subdivision (3) of this section.
So while the police may not want or need more work who is to say the blond and her lemmings won't do exactly what Flatspd did the other day and complain to the police that she is not seeing results? Although, as we see from Flatspd's report, there already seems to be a few casualties.
Stressed Out
11-06-09, 11:47
hi all - I realize that this belongs somewhere else but I didn't want anyone to miss it. With the state of RI fun in the dumper this describes what any one of us will be pleading for when we're done. I also can't take credit for finding it as it was found and posted by Crimsonlass on another forum. Enjoy all...better days are hopefully coming!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xzb35Pj460U
Stressed Out
11-06-09, 11:49
If you can guarantee that the guy who buys the $150 drink will get lucky, then you must be paying the women, so it's prostitution.
Have the girls doing the serving and give a big tip. After they get off work.....short shifts and are on their own time then you hook up..get a drink and go back to their (or your) place for a romp. There has to be a way.....
Wm Costigian
11-06-09, 12:50
You might want to check the Springfield board, there was a simultaneous raid and shutdown of 8 AMPs in the area, which I think offered only HJ.
A quick look at RI crime stats shows a spike from 2004 to 2005: violent crimes (murder, rape, robbery, agg assault) went up from around 1600 to 2600. That is where it has stayed more or less, since then. 2007 had appx 2500.
Clearly things are perfectly fine and hunky-dory in RI and cops need more to do. Obviously all the rapes and killings and shootings at the amps need their attention more than the drug dealing gang members and their associated violent crimes. They've got that part under control. It's those pesky amps need screwing with. See ya in jail... jxx
http://www.prsearch.com/crime/rhode_island/
You might want to check the Springfield board, there was a simultaneous raid and shutdown of 8 AMPs in the area, which I think offered only HJ.
From CNN news (the past few months):
Four police officers, suspect shot in New Jersey raid
Police: Man shoots 4 family members, then himself
Woman, two kids shot dead in New Orleans suburb
At least 4 die in gym shooting near Pittsburgh
Yesterday:
43 of our fighting troops shot - 13 dead
Today:
6 people shot a couple of hours ago in Orlando - 1 dead
Man dies after he's found shot on Providence street
Governor vetoes R.I. saltwater fishing license (he's so busy)
Jobless rate tops 10 pct. for first time since '83
and these a**holes have nothing better to do than bust a few AMPS and deport a few immigrants who you just know were threatening to take over America.
The lunatics are running the asylum.
Donna Hughes
11-06-09, 18:44
There are pro-sex feminist. I "Donna Hughes" spend the little time I have when I am not going after spas, going after them. You must have heard about the pro-sex feminist I attacked in Pawtucket.
http://thephoenix.com/Providence/News/90630-Hot-controversy-over-sexuality-center-in-Pawtucket/
http://www.projo.com/news/content/ACLU_SEX_HEALTH_CENTER_11-05-09_UVGBDV4_v21.36f34b0.html
Tommy Anonymus
11-06-09, 19:43
I know we're all disappointed and pissed, but enough with the politics and fantasies about sex clubs. Let's get back to why we're here: getting nonsexual body rubs from semi-trained young women.
One of the spas heavily reviewed on here was open at least as of Thursday. Drew "Julie" (I think). Tall, thin, cute face. TS was mediocre: used the sprayer instead of the bucket. The massage (oops, body rub) was OK by usual standards. Everything else, including quality of customer service and tip was as we have come to expect from this place.
Hoped to talk to Angie to see what management was thinking about future business, but on the way out there was only the older stricter mama was there, and she only said "don't worry! don't worry!".
Hi Donna! Hi Desiree! Congratulations!
DaddysLookin
11-07-09, 07:43
I know we're all disappointed and pissed, but enough with the politics and fantasies about sex clubs. Let's get back to why we're here: getting nonsexual body rubs from semi-trained young women.
One of the spas heavily reviewed on here was open at least as of Thursday. Drew "Julie" (I think). Tall, thin, cute face. TS was mediocre: used the sprayer instead of the bucket. The massage (oops, body rub) was OK by usual standards. Everything else, including quality of customer service and tip was as we have come to expect from this place.
Hoped to talk to Angie to see what management was thinking about future business, but on the way out there was only the older stricter mama was there, and she only said "don't worry! don't worry!".
Hi Donna! Hi Desiree! Congratulations!Tommy's living up to his name. Could be anywhere from coast to coast. I love useful information.
AsianLPGAfan
11-07-09, 11:10
I just gave up looking for some recent reviews because this board is flooded with bullshit. Get over your stupid law. There are always going to be places to go.
RRCome on man,
Lots of folks here have been knocked out of there comfort zone ."Now it really counts if you get caught"
This aint some redneck speed trap.
Don't throw stones in our glass house.
Not trying to stir up any trouble.
Lots of us are pretty down this week.
my tone of voice is like Coach Billick in a coors lite commercial w coach ditka
Donna Hughs you got what you wanted.Now you can stop posting we are not intrested in you anymore.Get a life.
I just gave up looking for some recent reviews because this board is flooded with bullshit. Get over your stupid law. There are always going to be places to go.
RR
Please see reply in Rhode Island General Topics General Reports (I think that's where it belongs - let me know if I'm wrong).
The law for 24hr gambling is passed almost at the same time as the banning of indoor sex. I am wondering which one erode morality more than the other?
Why they treat them so differently?
Jhonny8770
11-08-09, 02:46
Donna Hughs you got what you wanted.Now you can stop posting we are not intrested in you anymore.Get a life.
Please tell me/us this was (somehow) meant to be humorous?!?
My take is 'she' adds color to a gray area in dire need of a little 'cheer'.
And, I am interested in anything that f*cking hypocrite does/says; fuel to the fire kind of thing.
So please keep telling on 'yourself', Donna.
(one seriously pissed-off <but quietly biding my time/effort> monger)
J
The law for 24hr gambling is passed almost at the same time as the banning of indoor sex. I am wondering which one erode morality more than the other?
Why they treat them so differently?
Hookers don't pay taxes. People who are inherently bad at math, do.
The law for 24hr gambling is passed almost at the same time as the banning of indoor sex. I am wondering which one erode morality more than the other?
Why they treat them so differently?
What really bugs me is that the Lincoln track was a racetrack (dogs and simulcast horses) that was permitted to intall slot machines too. Then they started the huge (and overdone, as we now see) expansion most likely with the underlying objective of driving out the dog and horse gamblers. The shoved all the betting machines and tellers into small, hard to access areas of the building and basically discouraged any gambling other than the slot machines. Then, when the racing gamblers finally gave up, the "management" whined that the racing part of their business was losing too much money! No shit - you make it uncomfortable and inconvenient to do something of course your business is going to decline.
So now, there's 24 hour gambling and no obligation on the part of the place to offer live racing any more (and of course they'll phase out their simulcasting eventually, too)
But, the state wants to put all the spas out of business and encourage mindless slot machine gambling. Has anyone ever heard of a single incident at or in the vicinity of one of the AMPs? NO! Has anyone ever heard of anyone sticking up a liquor store or convenience store to raise enough to get a one-hour session at an AMP? NO! Has anyone ever hocked his jewelry or gone into debt to support an AMP habit? NO!
But you see all of these things with slot machine addicts - sleazy, scary people hanging out in the parking lots at Lincoln, robberies of all kinds to support gambling habits, and the used gold and pawn shops in the vicinity of casinos (mostly CT for now, but they will appear around Lincoln and Newport too) are thriving.
To me, the priorities of the RI legislature and governor are screwed up. The governor is giving the state away to the two casino operators while they do to the general population what one can't do legally at an AMP in RI any more - they're fucking them!!!
Tommy Anonymus
11-08-09, 18:24
Tommy's living up to his name. Could be anywhere from coast to coast. I love useful information.
OK maybe I was a little TOO cryptic! I mostly just wanted to post a review and let the board know that life is going on. If the spas have to close for legal reasons, then they will, but we don't have to let them close for lack of business!
I also wanted to give some info without providing a road map to our friends who use this board to target our providers. I think we will have to be a little more subtle from now on. No more penthouse forum type reviews, more PM's.
It's not like in MA where the local PD more than likely knows about the local HJ providers, but don't bother because it's not on anybody's radar. Right now there is too much heat for the RI spas, and I'd rather not paint LE a picture of where to go and who to ask for what (or give Donna and Desiree a list of places to "report").
So if I'm too vague, PM me.
TA
To me, the priorities of the RI legislature and governor are screwed up. The governor is giving the state away to the two casino operators while they do to the general population what one can't do legally at an AMP in RI any more - they're fucking them!!!
Lincoln will be a full blown casino shortly, mark my words. Or better yet bet on it.
Some of those that were so against the indians getting a casino have interests in the Ct ones and will now end up with 6 figure, do nothing jobs at Lincoln along with the politicians. Bet on that too.
Riclagriclag
11-08-09, 23:29
I go to a long established spa in the city of Providence. My session goes like this: I arrive, mama san takes me to a room, I give her $60, she leaves and I get undressed. A young Korean girl comes in takes me for a nice table shower, followed by sauna, and then a quality massage for 30-40 minutes. Then after the flip she gives me a hand release/happy ending. I never asked for it, no price was ever negotiated. After I'm cleaned up and dressed, I tip her $40, maybe $60. Have I broken a law? Has she? Is there a lawyer in the house? Just wondering.Hi Postman,
Yes and yes. You don't need a degree to read the law. Read the new law, The new law has everything covered. If you even comb her hair its considered touching to arouse.
Excuse my spelling.
Rick
instead of General Topics so I'll offer this that I found in a verified AP article:
Few police departments said they were ready to launch mass raids against the spas, but Pawtucket police Maj. Arthur Martins said his department will investigate at least four suspected brothels operating in his city. School children cross in front of one of them on their way to class.
"It's no secret what's occurring inside these spas," he said.
Attorney General Patrick Lynch said some brothel owners may simply close or stop offering sex instead of risking arrest. Police could enforce the law by sending undercover detectives into suspected brothels, he said.
Critics of the legislation have argued it may penalize destitute or drug-addicted women, including some who may be victims of human trafficking. The new law allows accused prostitutes to be acquitted if they claim they were threatened with violence, had their immigration paperwork stolen or were held against their will.
While individual prostitutes may be arrested and prosecuted, Lynch said his office was primarily interested in targeting criminal ringleaders.
"The point is, we'll go from the person who is selling it, predominantly women. But our target overall is to shut it down," Lynch said. "And the best way to do that is to go after the owners, the pimps, or those that manage these types of operations."
Now a question. Say I just moved to Rhode Island today. I never gave one thought to visiting a prostitute and have always assumed it was illegal everywhere. I want a massage due to back issues (which can be documented) and see a sign for a massage place and decide to drop in. I'm offered sex, freak out, decline and then leave. Can I really be arrested for just walking in/out the door because the place has a reputation that I am totally unaware of? Just seems pretty far fetched to me. Maybe I'm being naive.
Can I really be arrested for just walking in/out the door because the place has a reputation that I am totally unaware of? Just seems pretty far fetched to me. Maybe I'm being naive.I'm a lawyer, but not in Rhode Island. I've read the law, but not studied it carefully.
Please also keep in mind that police will respond to complaints and calls. So higher profile places in residential neighborhoods will attract more police attention. Its a matter of resource allocation. Squeaky wheels get oiled.
With all this in mind, be aware if we, or the spa owners panic, then the economics of the situation will drive them out of business.
I look for a number of places to close down, some to make a real effort to stay inside the law, and for a few to continue business as usual. The quotes from Law enforcement officials indicate that they are not out to arrest workers, nor customers, but owners and promoters.
The bottom line is if you happen to be inside a spa when the police come in on a raid, you may be detained, possibly arrested. Conviction would be another matter, but remember arrest is reported on page 1 with a picture after a perp walk; acquittal rarely makes the news at all.
I can't offer advice, but I intend to continue to travel 95 south from time to time as work permits.
AsianLPGAfan
11-09-09, 20:13
instead of General Topics so I'll offer this that I found in a verified AP article:
Now a question. Say I just moved to Rhode Island today. I never gave one thought to visiting a prostitute and have always assumed it was illegal everywhere. I want a massage due to back issues (which can be documented) and see a sign for a massage place and decide to drop in. I'm offered sex, freak out, decline and then leave. Can I really be arrested for just walking in/out the door because the place has a reputation that I am totally unaware of? Just seems pretty far fetched to me. Maybe I'm being naive.On MA board it was posted about how LE planned and executed a raid and sweep in the Springfield area AMPs.Was wondering if similar could happen?
Rebrobate218
11-09-09, 21:04
I'm a lawyer, but not in Rhode Island. I've read the law, but not studied it carefully.
Please also keep in mind that police will respond to complaints and calls. So higher profile places in residential neighborhoods will attract more police attention. Its a matter of resource allocation. Squeaky wheels get oiled.
With all this in mind, be aware if we, or the spa owners panic, then the economics of the situation will drive them out of business.
I look for a number of places to close down, some to make a real effort to stay inside the law, and for a few to continue business as usual. The quotes from Law enforcement officials indicate that they are not out to arrest workers, nor customers, but owners and promoters.
The bottom line is if you happen to be inside a spa when the police come in on a raid, you may be detained, possibly arrested. Conviction would be another matter, but remember arrest is reported on page 1 with a picture after a perp walk; acquittal rarely makes the news at all.
I can't offer advice, but I intend to continue to travel 95 south from time to time as work permits.
Is there a possibility the law would be overturned or ruled unconstitutional? I though it reads that it is illegal to travel to another state for the purpose of prostitution. It seems to be unconstitutional to ban someone from traveling to a state where it is legal (Nevada). Any thoughts?
instead of General Topics so I'll offer this that I found in a verified AP article:
Attorney General Patrick Lynch said some brothel owners may simply close or stop offering sex instead of risking arrest. Police could enforce the law by sending undercover detectives into suspected brothels, he said.Do you understand what this is all about?
It's not about getting rid of prostitution: they are trying to recruit a lot more undercover detectives!
J
Do you understand what this is all about?
...they are trying to recruit a lot more undercover detectives!
J and more "cooperating witnesses". Read this:
http://newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/07/city_cops_are_i.php
After the law changed in RI, I decide to quit the hoppy, imagine if someone is busted in an LE operation and they posted the Pictures on the front page. Reading the Law clearly there is no difference between HE and FS and that is what bother me the most. This is very oppressive rules and will do more damage than good.
When visiting Lilyes or Pleasant street I do not see prostitution of Sex trafficking.
Thank you RI for all the good time and the HE, time has come to move on.
and more "cooperating witnesses". Read this:
http://newhavenindependent.org/archives/2009/07/city_cops_are_i.php
Kcirtap Anner
11-10-09, 21:14
Will you give your fellow board mongers a discount for representation if something like this were to happen? :)
I'm a lawyer, but not in Rhode Island. I've read the law, but not studied it carefully.
Please also keep in mind that police will respond to complaints and calls. So higher profile places in residential neighborhoods will attract more police attention. Its a matter of resource allocation. Squeaky wheels get oiled.
With all this in mind, be aware if we, or the spa owners panic, then the economics of the situation will drive them out of business.
I look for a number of places to close down, some to make a real effort to stay inside the law, and for a few to continue business as usual. The quotes from Law enforcement officials indicate that they are not out to arrest workers, nor customers, but owners and promoters.
The bottom line is if you happen to be inside a spa when the police come in on a raid, you may be detained, possibly arrested. Conviction would be another matter, but remember arrest is reported on page 1 with a picture after a perp walk; acquittal rarely makes the news at all.
I can't offer advice, but I intend to continue to travel 95 south from time to time as work permits.
Riclagriclag
11-10-09, 22:12
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Any info on Dulce?
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Bonemachine69
11-11-09, 12:14
Help or hurt? These forums are priceless. I do most of my AMP visits on travel to different cities, that actually means outside RI even when the laws were different. Without these forums I would be lost most places, or overpay, or go to a place that doesn't have what I'm looking for, etc. I think a lot of people who travel for busness are depending on this info just the same.
The forums are providing reviews in every major city and I'm sure LE reads it when it's time to plan a bust, but that's just the way it is. Most major cities LE just doesn't care that much about busting AMPs. RI may be different now that they have a brand new law to enforce, we shall C. Personally, and this is just a hunch, I think we won't see any AMP raids until early next year. I believe LE needs to prove that prostitution is continuing to occur at AMPs AFTER pasage of the law, and that will take a few months. Plus right now is the worst time to send in an undercover to an AMP, with everyone on edge about the new law an undercover might be too easy to spot. Makes sense to wait a few months for the girls to get complacent. Again, just my thoughts.
I'm thinking these forums have out lived there usefulness. Why the hell would someone post their adventures and mention the establishment and Providers they visited. Jesus! Isn't it the same thing as calling the LE. The God damm LE and there witnesses patrol these sites. Their gathering enough shit to add to their investigations. I don't have an answer on how to report mongering at the AMP’s but this forum has to go in hiding or zip it up.
Rick,
Excuse my spellin
Savior Faire
11-11-09, 12:49
I'm thinking these forums have out lived there usefulness. Why the hell would someone post their adventures and mention the establishment and Providers they visited. Jesus! Isn't it the same thing as calling the LE. The God damm LE and there witnesses patrol these sites. Their gathering enough shit to add to their investigations. I don't have an answer on how to report mongering at the AMP’s but this forum has to go in hiding or zip it up.
Rick,
Excuse my spellin
I think at this point the forums should become unreadable to all except members, and that no more members should be allowed. Any report with useful postitive information that can be read by anybody is just putting a bullseye on the provider or establishment. It will mean a less active, eventually dead (like us) board, but it won't be a board that gets providers in trouble and that actually leads to less available sevices.
While I understand your point, it doesn't seem to have slowed things down for any other jurisdiction listed in this forum. Why should we be any different? LE already knows where the AMPs and clubs are. The escorts already advertise. The SWs are on the streets in plain sight. This debate has been held all over the forum already.
If services become less available, it's because the new law is working as intended -- the forum will make no difference.
I think at this point the forums should become unreadable to all except members, and that no more members should be allowed. Any report with useful postitive information that can be read by anybody is just putting a bullseye on the provider or establishment. It will mean a less active, eventually dead (like us) board, but it won't be a board that gets providers in trouble and that actually leads to less available sevices.
Member #4063
11-11-09, 13:49
I completely agree with Vargr. This site applies to a lot of different cities, including Boston where similar laws exist. There are two differences that come to mind, we don't know how and when the law will be enforced, nor do we fully yet understand the constitutionality of certain provisions such as the reputation issue.
Jack
I completely agree with Vargr. This site applies to a lot of different cities, including Boston where similar laws exist. There are two differences that come to mind, we don't know how and when the law will be enforced, nor do we fully yet understand the constitutionality of certain provisions such as the reputation issue.
Jack
Being a member of this site for at least 8 years, I have witnessed the shutdowns of many retreats. Some from loose lips on this board and some from the natural recourse of the inevitable.
We are involved in a hobby that some call "Immoral"
and are constantly trying to shut it down.
For hundreds of years "they" have been unsuccessful in their efforts and will continue to fail till the end of time.
Because Guy's have to get laid and until that changes there will always be a market.
With that said you must all decide (If you continue on) to keep your experiences to yourself, or eventually you will watch them all disappear before your eyes or drive them further underground.
I am fully aware of the purpose of this site and am truly grateful for the help I received when I needed it years back, Thank you Jackson!
But it's a double edge sword.
The more information we provide, the better it makes it for LE and the quicker they can and will clean house.
Some of the ones I miss dearly:
Hong Kong, Waterbury, CT
The Alpha Club, Hartford, CT
Teki Gardens, Norwich, CT
The Body Shop, Norwich, CT
The Club, Chicago, Ill
And on and on.
Bottom line is this sport in forever changing. Learn to adapt and move on, and think before you post publicly or risk stabbing yourself in the back.
Peace,
Hot Rodd
Member #4868
11-11-09, 23:28
ack, Thank you Jackson!
But it's a double edge sword.
The more information we provide, the better it makes it for LE and the quicker they can and will clean house.
Bottom line is this sport in forever changing. Learn to adapt and move on, and think before you post publicly or risk stabbing yourself in the back.
Peace,
Hot Rodd
Edited HR's post ( deleted some) for easier comprehension.
Many great points but the above are very good.
My Take:
If you are new to the game , either here or in MA, life will be hard. First off, Newbies are never welcome with open arms; now forget about it.
If you are new and not OFFERING confimable info , you will be ignored.
The bright side is that life goes on. My best guess is that much more happens via pm among trusted members, so the site and its focus lives on, just more clandestine. My last 3 encounters have been great and all UTR thanks to relationships built here.
Bottom line, Brothers keep your heads high as we will prevail!!!
Regards,
PwH
How many amps have I and we all been to and there are PD association stickers all over the welcoming window. Lily and Pleasant street for sure. If they want the amps they already know. All the stealth in the world will not stop a police department with a budget and a mandate.
Our only hope is all this new law stuff is smoke and mirrors maybe a couple of photo op busts of some lame amps for the cameras and the cops will go on to better things like drug dealers and gangsters.
DaddysLookin
11-12-09, 00:07
This evening started out with high hopes. I made contact with Diana from Sipsap. I have been looking at those lovely pics for a while. We spoke a few times and I was to go to her place at 7:45 or whenever I got there.
She gave me the general location, Westminster St in Providence. I come up from O-ville and call for the location. She goes into a rehearsed spiel from the highway. I tell her I am not on the highway and she begins it again and I tell her again I am already on Westminster. At that point she hangs up and repeated attempts to connect were fruitless. I sent txt and that was also ignored. I even called again from my real phone and she hung up when she heard my voice. All this for a direction. I think I know her anyway from Wiggin village a couple of years ago. She was a GOOD time then. Too bad.
Anyway, now I am determined to get some action. I peruse CL and contact Coco's massage at 236 Broadway 1R. I stop over and draw this 30 something chick with so so rub skills. On the flip the fun begins. She is offering me a HJ for $100 or FS for $200. I laughed and went for my pants. Ok ok, she agrees to $100 for FS (truthfully, it was all she was worth, not to be overly rude). I give her the cash, she dashes from the room. She comes in and proceeds to give me a HJ anyway and rebuffs all attempts at FS. I am pissed and cum quickly.
I then get up and dress telling her I am pissed and will not return. Then I drop the trump card: I will report you to the police as a thief taking my money and not performing as promised. The $100 could not have come back to me quicker. I counted off $40 as the appropriate tip for a HJ and left.
Moral of the story: the law change does have its positive side also.
Personally, I could care less if both were raided. Coco deserves it and the wench is a witch anyway.
It was not a happy evening, but I did manage to get off.
Jhonny8770
11-12-09, 01:54
“Christ, you know it ain’t easy; you know how hard it can be”.
“The way things are goin’; they’re gonna crucify me”!
These words, written by a musical genius, seem applicable to the new ‘situation’ in which we find ourselves immersed.
Doing some reading, I came across the story below of a fellow monger’s visit to a spa in Provton, CA called ‘Primo’.
Thought this may be a good read for some of you.
I’m changing the names ‘to protect the innocent’.
Let’s call him ‘Jhon’ and her ‘Kelly’.
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Went to Primo (above Starbucks) last Sunday after SNF; arrived at about 1:45am.
Didn’t use elevator; walked upstairs.
Met a couple mongers coming down and upon opening outer door, found 2 more (drinking water) sitting outside inner door (first time meeting/sitting with like-mindeds).
Talked a bit about the sport and other spas.
They go in first, then after about 5 mins Anna opens the door, sees me; “Hi Jhon’ and a big hug follows.
Taken back to room X and asked how was biz; told "slow".
A few moments later, in she walks.
Tall girl with Asian-looking, Jessica Parker type face, full B’s on a thin, nicely shaped bod (I’d guess about 45 Kilos).
“Hi honey; I’m Kelly” followed by kiss/hug and gift given (expected Primo donation).
Told her I was shower-fresh when asked and she says ‘be right back’.
Disrobe and assume the position.
Not too much later Kelly returns, grabs some oil and climbs on.
Very liberal with the lube during rubdown (just a pressing/smoothing of back/arms/legs; poor quality rub at best).
Question asked/answered has her leaving again.
Her return brings about a loss of her ‘apparel’ and 2 second mammary massage.
A requested turn has me looking at her ‘mouthing’ jimmyhat.
Lack of any ‘closeness’ has me not-a-bit at bat.
So she goes in and a few minutes later, ‘he and I’ are now ready to swing.
Succinct, frosty “NO” was the answer to all ‘pregame’ questions asked.
Many 'chilly' pos later, I get to destination and immediately it ‘warms up’.
Nice cleanup in shower (surprising).
While looks were promising, skills were lacking.
Again, this is EOD and YMMV.
No repeat with Kelly for me.
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Seems the dreaded ‘mechanical encounter’ happens everywhere, no matter the establishments rep.
J
Martin Dobro
11-12-09, 08:36
I've been around the hobby for longer than I care to admit, and I've seen a couple of really nice towns close down their AMPs. Not as many as Hot Rodd, but I watched both Ann Arbor, MI and Waterbury, CT shut down a thriving business. All it takes is a focused set of police raids, and a special page in the paper with pictures of the guys who got rolled up. Boom, no business and plywood over the windows.
If the police decide to raid the AMPs, it won't be our fault for being overly detailed with our posts. These are brick and mortar establishments with neighbors and tax records going back decades. The reason these laws passed is that there are concerned citizens - probably taking notes from the parking lot across the street. All male clientele, etc. There's a freakin' movie out. As mentioned, most of the better ones have PD "Always there when you need them" stickers up and down the front windows. Central and Lily in particular seem to have donated to the police defense fund for at least a couple of decades. It's not like the cops need to sneak up on them. Everyone knows what's going on.
Hopefully the police *will* take this opportunity to clean up some real scum. Human trafficking, drug addiction, and the like. Honestly, I don't want that crap in my town. I talk to the providers and try to treat them like human beings - and while it's not a great job for most of them - it's a job. Talked to one girl who was in real estate until a couple of years ago. Now she gives rubs and tugs.
Anyway, my point is that writing $0.5 when we mean "fifty," or writing "I had a dream" before posting details don't do anything to protect the businesses or the girls. If we went to an all-private message forum, that might work (and it does for the best independent providers) - but it would be damn hard to get new members.
Nothing to report. Haven't been since the law passed. Too scared. PM with the good word if you know a safe place.
Craven Morehed
11-12-09, 18:46
This evening started out with high hopes. I made contact with Diana from Sipsap. I have been looking at those lovely pics for a while. We spoke a few times and I was to go to her place at 7:45 or whenever I got there.
She gave me the general location, Westminster St in Providence. I come up from O-ville and call for the location. She goes into a rehearsed spiel from the highway. I tell her I am not on the highway and she begins it again and I tell her again I am already on Westminster. At that point she hangs up and repeated attempts to connect were fruitless. I sent txt and that was also ignored. I even called again from my real phone and she hung up when she heard my voice. All this for a direction. I think I know her anyway from Wiggin village a couple of years ago. She was a GOOD time then. Too bad.
.
Had the same problem with Lexi last time she was here, I could not find the hotel she was at. After a couple back and forth calls and a fruitless attempt to find the place she gets all pissy and thinks I am playing head games.
Unreal, I had seen her before and no doubt wanted to see her again. Oh well.
AsianLPGAfan
11-12-09, 20:56
Had the same problem with Lexi last time she was here, I could not find the hotel she was at. After a couple back and forth calls and a fruitless attempt to find the place she gets all pissy and thinks I am playing head games. Unreal, I had seen her before and no doubt wanted to see her again. Oh well.Is this the same Lexi "Brent" raved about? I replied to her CLtherapeutic ad, got voicemail.
She calls back and wants a reference for a "massage". She tells me it has something to do with the "new law". I told her very politely I was answering an ad for a massage and I know where the "other" ads are. I thanked her for returning my call and left it at that. She calls back a few minutes later asking me if I am interested in her dance and striptease show. WTF. I gracefully declined explaining that I was only looking for a massage.
Rickys Wild
11-13-09, 06:24
I saw Jackie from One last night cute.real 34 b's I'd say.The usual ts and pretty much usual everything pretty good oral skills and doggie.I would give her a 7 all around. It had been too long since my last visit was on the wrong floor for a while.
Don't be so friggin' paranoid- it's OK to call the place and leave a message with the mamasan- it's not like the CIA has the place bugged and everyone that calls is going to be traced and tracked down. I don't blame anyone that doesn't want to be where the first or next raid might be, but it may be close to business as usual, so chill out. Make the call. Use a payphone if you can find one. Wipe your prints off the receiver afterwards.
New Law sucks
Don't need no pity or sarcasm, just your opinions. I'm really missing one of the provider's at Lily's.
I don't want to go there for obvious reasons. But I would like to call and tell mamason to say Hi to her from Ric.
Excuse my spelling.
Hot Rod,
With the exception of the Chicago place, we must have ran into each other.
You left out Club Rose, and LE in New London Ct. I am sure you hit them too.
Being a member of this site for at least 8 years, I have witnessed the shutdowns of many retreats. Some from loose lips on this board and some from the natural recourse of the inevitable.
We are involved in a hobby that some call "Immoral"
and are constantly trying to shut it down.
For hundreds of years "they" have been unsuccessful in their efforts and will continue to fail till the end of time.
Because Guy's have to get laid and until that changes there will always be a market.
With that said you must all decide (If you continue on) to keep your experiences to yourself, or eventually you will watch them all disappear before your eyes or drive them further underground.
I am fully aware of the purpose of this site and am truly grateful for the help I received when I needed it years back, Thank you Jackson!
But it's a double edge sword.
The more information we provide, the better it makes it for LE and the quicker they can and will clean house.
Some of the ones I miss dearly:
Hong Kong, Waterbury, CT
The Alpha Club, Hartford, CT
Teki Gardens, Norwich, CT
The Body Shop, Norwich, CT
The Club, Chicago, Ill
And on and on.
Bottom line is this sport in forever changing. Learn to adapt and move on, and think before you post publicly or risk stabbing yourself in the back.
Peace,
Hot Rodd
Folks,
I am in from out of town, I used to live in Boston for years and I have 2 days. I have read about 8 pages of text and I wanted to ask if it is smart for me to try 1 spa on Monday or Tuesday? I only have 2 days and I love table showers, RI has the best and I really want one before I leave. I don't want to get arrested and it looks like they could bust AMPs at anytime. I wanted to get your thoughts.
Thanks,
Toodw
Folks,
I am in from out of town, I used to live in Boston for years and I have 2 days. I have read about 8 pages of text and I wanted to ask if it is smart for me to try 1 spa on Monday or Tuesday? I only have 2 days and I love table showers, RI has the best and I really want one before I leave. I don't want to get arrested and it looks like they could bust AMPs at anytime. I wanted to get your thoughts.
Thanks,
ToodwI am from Miami on Biz. I went to One on Saturday afternoon around 3pm. It was raining pretty hard and a bit windy. I parked a block away and walked up. When I went up the Mamasan asked me to come back in a hour. I went down to Dunkin Donuts for a coffee. Scoped out the area. I knew with the bad weather there is no way any thing will go down.
Saw a nice Lady. Everything as posted on here. A weird thing tip was never mention. I left a tip around the amount posted on here.
After I went to PP strip club. Was serviced in a booth by a Brazillian for a cheap price. Thanks for the all the info on here.Sc
Badlarry76
11-16-09, 16:41
Could somebody PM about a recent trip to Waskunk. I haven't been in a long while and was curious if it has improved or changed in any way. Thanks.
Hot Rod,
With the exception of the Chicago place, we must have ran into each other.
You left out Club Rose, and LE in New London Ct. I am sure you hit them too.
Yes Nuguy,
I've witnessed many live spots disappear town after town.
Many were closed from the attention of this and other websites that disclose all the info the law needs to wipe out another establishment. or group.
Mamason Kim from the "Hong Kong" assured me when other spots were getting closed down that she "paid her taxes and was not going to be bothered" until this site gave the town of Waterbury so much press that what was once a low key town turned into a hot spot that drew in many johns from out of state.
That in turn forced the law to put it to an end.
They wiped them all out at the same moment, filmed it for the 6 o clock news and the rest is history.
For those of you who think it has nothing to do with the reports you write, I ask you to find me one site that (for argument sake) talks freely about gang activity's, where they broke the law, names, addresses or drug lords and what they sold to who?
As you can see, I have reported here more than a few times. I am grateful for all the help I have received here and have always tried to give some back, but the more I learn the less I talk.
Peace,
HR
Ampdude 2003
11-17-09, 20:52
I just left PP and headed over to FE but it was closed - normal business hours are until 10:00p.
I ventured over to One and was greeted by Angie, who mentioned it would be 20 minutes or so. I waited, and waited, and waited. The place was really, really busy. Finally a knock on the door and ... it was Angie saying it would be soon. About 10 minutes after that a knock and in comes "Mimi" whom I've never met.
I would describe "Mimi" as average at best, no up to One standards. What made her average stay average is her attitude. I can usually get a good reaction from the girls, especially at One were "nice" is part of the training. Not Mimi. I felt like I just pulled a queue number to stand in line at the deli. Mimi mentioned we would need to wait for the TS. At this time I was getting a little flustered, given the wait and Mimi was what I had to wait for. Highly unusual for me, I asked for my house fee back and started to dress! I sensed a bit of panic in Mimi's actions and voice and against my better judgement I decided to stay. What the heck, it was late.
We finally went to the TS and Mimi majorly complained about One and the number of clients - quoting 70 per day and 6 girls (usually 7). She mentioned she didn't really get a chance to eat and because they stay open until 3:00a will linger a bit to 4a or so. She mentioned the other girls are fed up too. I never sensed the "fed up" attitude with other girls there historically. Mimi is killing me :(. TS was unenjoyable at best.
Back to the room she gets on the table and lies next to me. I never really got a massage, in fact she asked me to massage her. She then asked the question and for the first time in my entire life I answered to the negative - wanted no part of her or her sorry butt.
A description of her - thin, enhanced B cans, straight brown hair shoulder length and across the forehead, no butt.
I did see some hotties in the hallway and yes, they did smile! Angie got me before I left and asked about my experience. I didn't totally trash her but Angie knew something was wrong and mentioned to try "much better girl" next time.
If you have the fortune of getting assigned "Mimi", I suggest you run for the hills.
Riclagriclag
11-18-09, 02:41
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MuffyTheDiver
11-18-09, 08:01
I just left PP and headed over to FE but it was closed - normal business hours are until 10:00p.
I ventured over to One and was greeted by Angie, who mentioned it would be 20 minutes or so. I waited, and waited, and waited. The place was really, really busy. Finally a knock on the door and ... it was Angie saying it would be soon. About 10 minutes after that a knock and in comes "Mimi" whom I've never met.
I would describe "Mimi" as average at best, no up to One standards. What made her average stay average is her attitude. I can usually get a good reaction from the girls, especially at One were "nice" is part of the training. Not Mimi. I felt like I just pulled a queue number to stand in line at the deli. Mimi mentioned we would need to wait for the TS. At this time I was getting a little flustered, given the wait and Mimi was what I had to wait for. Highly unusual for me, I asked for my house fee back and started to dress! I sensed a bit of panic in Mimi's actions and voice and against my better judgement I decided to stay. What the heck, it was late.
We finally went to the TS and Mimi majorly complained about One and the number of clients - quoting 70 per day and 6 girls (usually 7). She mentioned she didn't really get a chance to eat and because they stay open until 3:00a will linger a bit to 4a or so. She mentioned the other girls are fed up too. I never sensed the "fed up" attitude with other girls there historically. Mimi is killing me :(. TS was unenjoyable at best.
Back to the room she gets on the table and lies next to me. I never really got a massage, in fact she asked me to massage her. She then asked the question and for the first time in my entire life I answered to the negative - wanted no part of her or her sorry butt.
A description of her - thin, enhanced B cans, straight brown hair shoulder length and across the forehead, no butt.
I did see some hotties in the hallway and yes, they did smile! Angie got me before I left and asked about my experience. I didn't totally trash her but Angie knew something was wrong and mentioned to try "much better girl" next time.
If you have the fortune of getting assigned "Mimi", I suggest you run for the hills.
O.K., So I know I do not post or contribute often here (really have not been very active in past year) but I read often and just had to chime in here after reading this review.
This is not an attack on ampdude or anyone else here but I think you have basically seen some of the underbelly of the busier Spa's. Do you really think these girls can keep up with this kind of pace? Just think of how you would feel if you had to work 12-14 hour days with little break. Perform with a smile each time. Go through the same routine each time and engage in the most personal experience with each "Gentleman" each time. Most of these girls are excellent actress's but I fear what you saw was reality breaking through the performance. What you saw was the truth...these girls at One Spa are getting burned out and they are starting to show signs of the "Hard Work" they cheerfully do each and every day.
I will stay far away from One for two reason:
1st - When the LE hammer comes down this is the first place to take the hit!
2nd - They are WAY too busy! Clients waiting outside the door, shower room always tied up, girls that have performed 10-15 times daily.
This place has become far too "Well known" for it's own good and I think we we will see more and more reviews like this one until the day you see the highlights of a bust on the news!
BTW - Posts like these can and will be viewed by the ultra feminist who passed the law as a prime example of why they pushed this law through!
It is funny, a newbie, with only 6 posts, can berate a senior member with over 200 posts. Spend some time before you blast a trusted senior member please.
Hi Ampdude 2003,
If you care to notice the several posts before you. On the repercussion of your review and others of the detail's are damaging to the AMP's and our hobby. I ask everyone to consider what they post. I don't know everything or pretend too, on how to keep the hobby reviews from getting in the wrong hands(LE). But it's not Rocket science to figure the outcome of this info we provide.
Ric
BTW - Posts like these can and will be viewed by the ultra feminist who passed the law as a prime example of why they pushed this law through!
Skewed more than likely, not honestly "viewed" - that feminist won't admit that the women are there by choice - looking to make a buck - NOT slaves, as many know. This is a fact if you've ever talked to anyone there. If they are truly unhappy or burnt out they will leave as they please. They are probably just trying to stretch it out as long as possible before the big hammer comes down and getting a bit tired. Fatigue and burnout occurs in all professions! But, I'll bet the provider wasn't truly speaking for everyone there.
And yes, it became far too well known, popular and busy. I doubt I'll return.
With regards to posting here, yes, we are all to "blame" I suppose BUT remember this is not the only site that comments on experiences and I've no idea how you will ever stop it altogether so LE will always have some tools (but yes, we can limit our input here at least).
Skewed more than likely, not honestly "viewed" - that feminist won't admit that the women are there by choice - looking to make a buck - NOT slaves, as many know. This is a fact if you've ever talked to anyone there. If they are truly unhappy or burnt out they will leave as they please. They are probably just trying to stretch it out as long as possible before the big hammer comes down and getting a bit tired. Fatigue and burnout occurs in all professions! But, I'll bet the provider wasn't truly speaking for everyone there.
And yes, it became far too well known, popular and busy. I doubt I'll return.
With regards to posting here, yes, we are all to "blame" I suppose BUT remember this is not the only site that comments on experiences and I've no idea how you will ever stop it altogether so LE will always have some tools (but yes, we can limit our input here at least).
..would get an idea of what's going on in AMPs in Providence. Posts here are not giving LE any more information than a simple visit to one by an undercover based on the ads they run in the Phoenix.
MuffyTheDiver
11-19-09, 08:05
Skewed more than likely, not honestly "viewed" - that feminist won't admit that the women are there by choice - looking to make a buck - NOT slaves, as many know. This is a fact if you've ever talked to anyone there. If they are truly unhappy or burnt out they will leave as they please. They are probably just trying to stretch it out as long as possible before the big hammer comes down and getting a bit tired. Fatigue and burnout occurs in all professions! But, I'll bet the provider wasn't truly speaking for everyone there.
And yes, it became far too well known, popular and busy. I doubt I'll return.
With regards to posting here, yes, we are all to "blame" I suppose BUT remember this is not the only site that comments on experiences and I've no idea how you will ever stop it altogether so LE will always have some tools (but yes, we can limit our input here at least).
I never said anything about the choice these girls have, that is and always will be debateable. I personally do not think they are being forced, but I do think many of them do not have any other options to make this kind of money. I think once they are shipped in and start working Mamasan starts them off slow, then once they show they have it down Mama throws them to the wolves. This is the point where they are turning 10-15 "Body rubs" a day and bringing in loads of cash.
Greed keeps them going but there attitude starts suffering. 2-3 weeks of this and they are burnt out and ready to take a break. I think One may be trying to squeeze everything they can out of each girl before they go because of how busy and well known they have become.
I think these girls are slaves to there own greed and the needs of there families back home! I personally will not go back to One even though I know they have the best girls. Mark my words, when the hammer comes down One and all it's occupants are going down...Do you really want to be a 6pm news star?
Ampdude 2003
11-19-09, 19:27
Hey Ric -
I am usually quite considerate of my words with sensitivity to the environment and other submitters, but I did not really consider my report a lead cause for some kind action or fuel discussion.
Mimi was unique in a sense that her complaining was very atypical and I wanted to make sure folks were aware of this if running into her. I am not sure she'll last long based on Angie's awareness of the situation.
One takeaway from your post is the apparency in the way information will be exchanged with regard to this board (RI), at least for a bit.
Hi Ampdude 2003,
If you care to notice the several posts before you. On the repercussion of your review and others of the detail's are damaging to the AMP's and our hobby. I ask everyone to consider what they post. I don't know everything or pretend too, on how to keep the hobby reviews from getting in the wrong hands(LE). But it's not Rocket science to figure the outcome of this info we provide.
Ric
Hi Ampdude 2003,
If you care to notice the several posts before you. On the repercussion of your review and others of the detail's are damaging to the AMP's and our hobby. I ask everyone to consider what they post. I don't know everything or pretend too, on how to keep the hobby reviews from getting in the wrong hands(LE). But it's not Rocket science to figure the outcome of this info we provide.
Ric
I seriously doubt that the RI legislature spent so much time debating or voting on the recent legislation based on posts here.
And, I seriously doubt that the Providence PD or RI State police will base any raids on what they might read here. Imagine evidence presented in court or to a judge requested to issue a search warrant: "your honor, everything is based on posts we read on USASG" !!! Come on, nothing that LE might do is based on anonymous posts here.
First, while I resent the legislature for interfereing with my liberty to enjoy the hobby, and I too fear getting caught up in some police activity, I will continue to visit AMP's because I enjoy it.
The RISP and the Providence PD are, almost exclusively, reactive organizations. They are rarely proactive, and have more than enough work to do maintaining order and responding to complaints of citizens or real crime in Rhode Island.
Police resources are scarce, so scarce you would be stunned at how few police are actually on patrol at any given time in Providence. It takes 6 full time police officers on the payroll to put 1 officer on the street 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. The number is the same for RISP. If one or more of those officers is wasting his time reading this forum, then his or her supervisor will, no doubt find some more productive and visible method to direct the officers efforts.
Believe me, these police departments are not looking for more things to do.
But, they will not be embarrassed and they will respond to calls with complaints.
So be considerate of the environment. Don't be driving to an AMP drunk. Don't disturb the neighborhood at 2 AM when you arrive.
Live will go on.
The police already know where all the AMP's are. What we report here will not have any affect on police action.
I seriously doubt that the RI legislature spent so much time debating or voting on the recent legislation based on posts here.
And, I seriously doubt that the Providence PD or RI State police will base any raids on what they might read here. Imagine evidence presented in court or to a judge requested to issue a search warrant: "your honor, everything is based on posts we read on USASG" !!! Come on, nothing that LE might do is based on anonymous posts here.
Considering how all this amp stuff was legal and based on the fellow mongers I have seen at the amps.
I would not doubt that any one of us senior mongers are LE.
Savior Faire
11-20-09, 12:47
I seriously doubt that the RI legislature spent so much time debating or voting on the recent legislation based on posts here.
And, I seriously doubt that the Providence PD or RI State police will base any raids on what they might read here. Imagine evidence presented in court or to a judge requested to issue a search warrant: "your honor, everything is based on posts we read on USASG" !!! Come on, nothing that LE might do is based on anonymous posts here.
I don't think police get a search warrant to conduct an undercover operation. They receive information, such as from posts here, that illegal activity is taking place. They then go undercover to see if that is true. Depending on the state, they might need a warrant to record conversations, but they would get that after going in to determine if anything is going on that is illegal and that they would like to record.
I don't think police get a search warrant to conduct an undercover operation. They receive information, such as from posts here, that illegal activity is taking place. They then go undercover to see if that is true. Depending on the state, they might need a warrant to record conversations, but they would get that after going in to determine if anything is going on that is illegal and that they would like to record.
There was a raid on a place in Meriden, CT about a year ago, the 2041 club, I think the name was and part of the police report were quotes found from this forum. The ultimate reason for the raid and eventual closure was a sexually transmitted disease was spread by one of the dancers. But again, they did find quotes from here to confirm there was that kind of activity going on. If you look in Ct. under Meriden you will find it.
Pam Anderson
11-21-09, 00:10
What if these Asians, Strippers, streetwalkers, were your own daughters, mothers, sisters or granddaughters? Every prostitute is someone's daughter.
What goes around comes around.
Benchseats Rock
11-21-09, 01:58
What if these Asians, Strippers, streetwalkers, were your own daughters, mothers, sisters or granddaughters? Every prostitute is someone's daughter.
What goes around comes around.
So let me make sure I'm getting this right.
What goes around, comes around... the Karmic Connection, the Circle of Life, Yin and Yang, Fate... I understand this much.
So according to you, if I have a daughter and she becomes a sex worker, it's because I'm getting whacked with a cosmic baseball bat for getting a massage and a blowjob?
Go ask your father if he ever bought a girl something extra nice or spent way too much on dinner and gifts on Valentine's Day with the intention of trying to get some. When he denies it, you will know that he is lying. He's not that charming - If he was, some of it would have rubbed off on you.
We all pay for it one way or the other.
Get over yourself.
Bench
There was a raid on a place in Meriden, CT about a year ago, the 2041 club, I think the name was and part of the police report were quotes found from this forum. The ultimate reason for the raid and eventual closure was a sexually transmitted disease was spread by one of the dancers. But again, they did find quotes from here to confirm there was that kind of activity going on. If you look in Ct. under Meriden you will find it.Willy O is right. I have been a member for some time but rarely post and as I said in a Conn Forum, it is fear of getting caught, thats it.
But, that said, I also read the Police report for the 2041 club in the local paper (Meriden Record-Journal.com) The paper put the Cops report on the internet. It said in the report that the Police monitor these sites for various reasons (Murder in Boston from CL I am sure is one reason). The report said that the Police based their case on numerous issues but one was what they learned on USA Sex Guide from bloggers like us. Don't get me wrong, I love this site and it has helped my Monger hobby greatly, but just be smart what you do, what you say and where you do it. Know your surroundings and don't just run up on a SW, drive around the block once or twice and see who is watching.
Jhonny8770
11-21-09, 02:41
What if these Asians, Strippers, streetwalkers, were your own daughters, mothers, sisters or granddaughters? Every prostitute is someone's daughter.
What goes around comes around.Good morning Ms' Hughes/Shapiro,
Love the mongress name you came up with; deep, dark fantasy you've been 'chastizing' yourself over for some time would be my guess.
Please answer me this, "What is the hang-up you have with sex?"
A great many of us (including daughters, mothers, sisters AND granddaughters) actually like sex; yes, we enjoy sucking and fucking.
I feel the deepest sympathy for you because you are truly missing out on one of the great pleasures this life has to offer.
I mean, how do you think you got here?!?
What if these Asians, Strippers, streetwalkers, were your own daughters, mothers, sisters or granddaughters? Every prostitute is someone's daughter.
What goes around comes around.
In order for you to be here, your father fucked your mother!
AsianLPGAfan
11-21-09, 09:56
Good morning Ms' Hughes/Shapiro,
Love the mongress name you came up with; deep, dark fantasy you've been 'chastizing' yourself over for some time would be my guess.
Please answer me this, "What is the hang-up you have with sex? "
A great many of us (including daughters, mothers, sisters AND granddaughters) actually like sex; yes, we enjoy sucking and fucking.
I feel the deepest sympathy for you because you are truly missing out on one of the great pleasures this life has to offer.
I mean, how do you think you got here?!There thousands of stories as we see ladies "come and go".
I talked to an Asian provider recently she has to pay off 35k before she can be "released" from this obligation. I magine this means "they" are holding her passport or may have told her other things to scare her?
I am sure many(perhaps most) knew what they were getting into but I imagine not all of them didn't know the true reality until they were asked to really produce.
What if these Asians, Strippers, streetwalkers, were your own daughters, mothers, sisters or granddaughters? Every prostitute is someone's daughter.
What goes around comes around.Donna Hughes has done more to set back Feminism than anyone in America. The majority of people who are in this industry ( even the clients) understand the difference between grown up American Pros and human trafficking. Only shrieking martyr- hysterics do not. You could have millions of women speaking in their own defense who are Pros who will adamantly ask it to be legalized for their own protection. Someone like this will discount every opposing opinion because she is sick. The self righteous have done more evils in the world than any pleasure loving hedonist.
I will say that as a woman, I am often appalled by many of the posters on here. Many of you seem to be very primitive, lacking in humanity and seem to have a deep seated dislike re: women in general. But most humans have an IQ of 100 or under, so I should not be surprised.
I am a woman in the industry. I was never abused, molested or on drugs. If/when I reach some sort of epiphany re: what I do and if it is a negative one, than I will quit. I am cutting and pasting something that I read re: a famous call girl who just came out. She is very brave-certainly braver than many of you posters who complain about your fun being inhibited yet did nothing to step forward to influence the outcome.
My Body-My Business. And I mean that literary.
Dr Magnanti/Bell is the ballsiest chick that I wish I knew.
I find that those of you who judge her seem so often, to have little education or life experience.
Life is hard and complex and one does what what needs to survive and hopefully-flourish. This woman represents FAR MORE women than many of you believe. I applaud her focus, savvy, curiosity about life and her obvious accomplishments. Not to mention she is one hell of a writer. She did this without owing school loans and paying taxes. WTF is wrong with you people? She is a success and an honest one at that. She is not a drug addict, not abused and actually achieved her goals. Some of you just can't seem to wrap your minds around that.
This is an Darwinian world and the sex industry is based on biological needs that will never be rooted out. The whole world and it's commerce is built on the need to reproduce. You can call it love, desire, nature- whatever but this is something about humans that will never change.
As a FEMINIST I find it ironic that the men are still making more than women in the sex industry. Women own "the slice of life" that everyone since the dawn of time has wanted a piece of. She should be the FIRST to profit off of it as she sees fit.
There are many women (and men) that have dabbled in the shadow world. Educated, gifted people who have a plan, down on their luck etc..who resort to doing this. As long as they are of age (21 and up)and not coerced they should be able to do as they please behind closed doors. Your sisters and daughters could very well be prostitutes or Dominas or strippers and you would never know. Do you want your college bound beauties to be arrested and branded a Pro? Set up and hunted down like witches back in Salem? How barbaric and foolish. Once they have a record they can kiss college good-bye and it's hello Pro for life. Wake up people-staying alive is an expensive habit and getting more so every day. Women still make less and have you heard? Starbucks is laying everyone off.
Most STDS etc... are spread by serial monogamist and vanilla people. Most Pros are very mindful re: using condoms. BTW the pros are not breaking up families. I'm sure the majority of them want your man even less than some of you women seem to. I believe that they work on the catch and release program. An hour is long enough.
Once women own/profit from the sexual rights of our bodies-this world will be turned topsy turvy and men know it. Some women still do not. I call myself a feminist because I know all roads lead back to women. When we own our sexuality then we own everything. Imagine if we all understood our own worth and charged accordingly? Without sentiment? Because some of us can do this-so why not let us? For someone like the Dr./Bell who is very educated and super bright, multi gifted, eloquent and beautiful to "Come out" as she did is remarkable. Brave yes, but I bet she doesn't yet understand herself the implications of this action. The moral hysterics will try and drown out her "legitimacy" but she is as legit as it gets and represents many "normal" people who are forced to live in the grey area.
There is an incredible back lash of governments against sex workers. But if you poll the citizens in most of these countries, studies after study show they are either indifferent or support legalizing prostitution. With controls in place of course. I think this is because there are more women doing it and many of them are far better educated than the workers say 20 years ago. There are more activist becoming organized, many have legal council and are feminist.
So now that we have the vote, let's take care of our sisters and stop persecuting other human beings that are just trying to live. I don't know if there was a Jesus, but if there were I think he would be the first to say mind your own business and leave these people the hell alone.
Bravo Dr Brooke Magnanti/Belle De Jour. Chin up and carry on. ; )
Donna Hughes
11-21-09, 15:30
I hear the Providence Police department will not be going after the spas, on direct order from the Mayor. Something to do with not wanting to have to go after the gay clubs. I actually heard this from a cop.
The law is basically void.
Carry on as usual.
The Professor
Stressed Out
11-21-09, 16:03
What if these Asians, Strippers, streetwalkers, were your own daughters, mothers, sisters or granddaughters? Every prostitute is someone's daughter.
What goes around comes around.
Now there is a posting name if I ever heard one. And I suppose that your posting namesake didn't use sex or sexuality in any way to get to her goals. Please don't bore us with this crap.
If these ladies were as you mentioned and were doing it of their own free will or because maybe they enjoyed the sex or the companionship without the strings then i wouldn't have a problem. and don't tell me that it doesn't happen. I was friends with someone who used escorting as a way to have casual relationships without having the emotional strings. She ENJOYED it. One of the MP workers who actually testified told us that she was financing her daughters education at Brown University by working in the spas. she was a homeowner and taxpayer who was doing it as a means to an end. Don't think there are many more like this out there. There are! And if you didn't know it those 'strippers' that you mention will sometimes come home with a thousand dollars or more for a nights work. And they don't all do other things.
If they were being forced into it then shame on us for not speaking up and doing something about it. I think if you actually read the forum (other than the last month since you joined) you will find that most of us have that same attitude.
And if they were doing it because they HAD to and didn't have any othjer choice then shame on me for not stepping up to the plate and helping them. And BTW shame on all of those do-gooder politicians and others that are making obscene amounts of money and not looking out for those who are scraping by. (ex-Ma legislature cuts welfare, food stamps amd health benefits by untold millions but just gave themselves and their staffs an 18 million dollar raise. We gave BILLIONS to banks and others to bail them out. What happens..they still won't lend to those who need it and give themselves millions in bonus money. Think about it..we could have given each of these workers you mentioned a million dollars to help them out and still had money leftover. And BTW let's not get into all those tens of thousands of women that get themselves pregnant over and over again just to keep the benefits going. Happens everywhere hun!
Finally it amazes me that all you feminist do-gooders out there will scream discrimanation, brutality and how unfair everything is but at a moments notice will use your sexuality, femininity and yes sex to get what you want whether it is a job, a raise, a date or to just make money. And don't tell me it doesn't happen everywhere. That's why there are mini-skirts, VS models and skimpy attire galore. So don't tell me that women don't use sex as a tool to get what they want...cause then I would have to call you a liar.
In the meantime just let down your hair, put something sexy on and go out and enjoy yourself...you might just like it. Let me know!
Haven't been in a while, so I stopped in today. Ran into a fellow monger on his way out as I was on my way in. That's first as I just walked in the door and wasn't buzzed in. No one walked him to the door and no one at the desk. A few minutes go buy and a 7/10 (really cute 27 yrs old) 5'7" 130lbs with fake Cs checks me in wearing her bathrobe. As I'm filling out the paperwork, a little hottie comes through the door, may be 5'2" 110lbs around the same age. Better talent than I had remembered.
I pay the .60 door fee and initial the front and back of the form. New for me since I only had to sign the front before. Also noticed a new sign (for me it was new) that said by appt only, no walk-ins, located above the room where the girls hang out between clients.
Sauna, body scrup (no attention to the right spots).
Massage- 3/10 lazy, she laid/leaned on me as she rubbed, must have been tired. No teasing, no teasing after the flip either.
Attitude was cool, with decent english.
Asked what I wanted. I said everything. She said you know the price right and I said yeah. CBJ, lacking. Went for mish. VERY VERY LOOSE!! I had to ask the age again, couldn't believe some one so young would be so lacking in tightness. Verified the age. Anyhow, could have gone forever with the lack of feeling. Tried hard and finally finished.
Nice girl, very pretty, but wouldn't repeat.
Door= .6
Looks= 7/10
Body= 8/10
Body scrub= 2/10
Massage= 3/10
FS= 4/10 (nice face, body, she did try to work it, had a good attitude, but hot dog in a hallway...)
Tip= 1.2
Damage= 1.8
Total session only lasted 45min. I think she was trying for 30min, but i lasted longer than expect and longer than i wanted!
Would go back and try someone else, but not her. Sorry, couldn't understand the name, i asked twice too.
Member #4868
11-21-09, 23:04
I will say that as a woman, I am often appalled by many of the posters on here. Many of you seem to be very primitive, lacking in humanity and seem to have a deep seated dislike re: women in general. But most humans have an IQ of 100 or under, so I should not be surprised.
I am a woman in the industry. )
Hi OTH
Please forgive me for only quoting a part of your post.
While I did find your post relevent, and somewhat accurate, I would have taken it more seriously had you expounded more on your personal experience in the biz , and if you had seperated your thoughts from your hero's, Dr. Bell ( not really sure if you are quoting or they are your interpretations)
Also, if you RTFF, you will find the majority of the posts to be respectful and less than primitive.( Yes some posters are less than gentlemen, but they end up getting weeded out)
I will also say that I for one truly love women, enjoy their smiles, smells, laughs, intellect, etc.
Oh, just so you know my IQ is north of 100!!!
I encourage you to reply , and actually hope you PM me.
pwH
I hear the Providence Police department will not be going after the spas, on direct order from the Mayor. Something to do with not wanting to have to go after the gay clubs. I actually heard this from a cop.
The law is basically void.
Carry on as usual.
The Professor
I think a post like the one above is the exact thing that Bigrig was speaking about:
But, they will not be embarrassed and they will respond to calls with complaints.
JMHO, but a little more discretion is in order even if what you say is true. I would also not carry on as usual until at least after January - when the first report is due on the hill. If there are no "results" to report the media is going to have a field day and LE WILL be embarrassed so I think they have to post some "results" before then. Maybe after that things will quiet down.
I'm also a little suspicious as isn't this the same mayor who wanted to issue an executive order banning the oldest profession in Providence unless he suddenly realized that his hobby would be impacted too?
Well. I did expound on my own experience somewhere in that novella. I am not quoting Belle herself, but another post in a different forum. I thought I had made that clear. I quoted it because it already reflects my own experiences and attitude re: the industry-as well as some of my contemporaries. No need to reinvent the wheel. I don't need for you to take me seriously as I am not running for a political position or writing my dissertation.
These boards are a double edged sword and as a woman in the bizz I rather resent them. Reviews help of course but they also hinder. By the very nature of them you are disrespecting women by objectifying them-putting them on a numbered scale and discussing intimate things like how "tight" she is-or is not. Or going into detail how you (meaning you in the universal sense)video taped someone without their knowledge and then discussing these tactics with others on the board. Or how about describing the escort's protocol right down to describing where we live? Or if the place smelled like lunch cooking. We do have to eat. Thank- you guys.
Of course we are a commodity in this industry-we are the product so I guess it is a necessary evil. After all-boys will be boys and all that. However, what I find ironic is that most of you resent paying for it-which is why so many of you are so critical. In "real" life many of you would not get near many of these women without direct payment. Just being truthful guys. I know you can handle it.
I'm sure that you are a gentleman PW. I am also sure that many of you are not. In general most people suck anyway. I'm not here to scold as I am a party to this industry and support my right to be so. My original point was it should be legal as we would be safer and can actually make a living and to live in a comfortable manner. There is no honor in poverty-that stuff is for the movies.
Hi OTH
Please forgive me for only quoting a part of your post.
While I did find your post relevent, and somewhat accurate, I would have taken it more seriously had you expounded more on your personal experience in the biz, and if you had seperated your thoughts from your hero's, Dr. Bell (not really sure if you are quoting or they are your interpretations)
Also, if you RTFF, you will find the majority of the posts to be respectful and less than primitive. (Yes some posters are less than gentlemen, but they end up getting weeded out)
I will also say that I for one truly love women, enjoy their smiles, smells, laughs, intellect, etc.
Oh, just so you know my IQ is north of 100!
I encourage you to reply, and actually hope you PM me.
PwH
Member #4063
11-22-09, 11:39
You may well be correct in your view, however it is really not all that helpful to anybody to rub an individual or organization's face in "it".
As for Ms. Anderson, get over yourself and I find it both ironic and telling you would pick a handle of one of the most sexually exploiting, note not exploited, women in the entertainment world.
Jack
My original point was it should be legal as we would be safer and can actually make a living and to live in a comfortable manner. There is no honor in poverty-that stuff is for the movies.
OK - so what can be done to make it legal again. Seriously. Unfortunately, many spa patrons are from out of state so the vote doesn't count but where do we go from here besides helping (in some way) to vote OUT the morons who put the law in place.
Oh and, OTH - there are far more respectful gentlemen than you think on this forum but every barrel does have its bad apples.
Cheers.
After The Flip
11-29-09, 00:21
This is a library. People are studying. Please stop asking questions and posting reports.
Staying safe was never easier.
ATF
I don't want to upset anyone or tip off any unwanted viewers but I just received word from a fellow monger that business is going on as usual in the land where dreams are made. He had to drop a relative off at the airport and decided to do a quick recon mission around town to see what the scene looked like. Told me he felt a bad vibe but shook it off. Drew a brand new girl, first day in town. Cute, young, about 4 foot 11. CBJ for 120, tip included. Was his first time back since you know what. Let's keep this forum alive, I am saddened to see it in this current state of despair.
By the way, I googled my name "tuglover1" the other day just for kicks and was surprised to see that I was quoted in Melanie Shapiro's honors thesis, LOL.
If anyone wants more details shoot me a PM. Happy Hobbying. If you've fallen off the horse get back up. Don't let uncle leo keep you down.
No it is not a library, but the healing process take longer time than expected, people are speechless:
This is a library. People are studying. Please stop asking questions and posting reports.
Staying safe was never easier.
ATF
VilunyaChert
11-30-09, 10:13
By the way, I googled my name "tuglover1" the other day just for kicks and was surprised to see that I was quoted in Melanie Shapiro's honors thesis, LOL.You inspired me to do the same, and whaddayaknow--I'm there too!
Melanie (if you're out there, or ever come across this while ego-surfing on your own account), you're a lousy reader (and/or poor thinker). Just for two examples. (1) You totally mangled some information contained in a post I made, about the old Swedish Sauna in downtown Providence, turning it into definite falsehoods. (2) You listed "urination on women" as something available at Mineral Springs, presumably on the basis of "Scooter99"'s one and only post (02-18-06), in which he said "MS Ave offers hr, daty, golden showers, oral, but no fs" (translated in your thesis into "Manual stimulation, urination on woman, fellatio, cunnilingus. Not full service"). On what basis did you conclude that the "golden showers" supposedly available there were man-on-woman? The very few times I've heard of watersports at an AMP, they've been woman-on-man. If you did have evidence you should have published it instead of going off half-cocked.
I guess I should cut you some slack, since you were only an innocent young college senior when you wrote that "honors thesis". But, really, it's a scholarly disaster, and I hope some day you look back on it in shame. (Ain't holdin' my breath, though.)
Little Tony II
11-30-09, 11:14
. By the way, I googled my name "tuglover1" the other day just for kicks and was surprised to see that I was quoted in Melanie Shapiro's honors thesis, LOL.Hey. I am in it also. She used my same DT report twice for two different entries.
Did you read her thank yous at the beginning of the thesis!
She thanks all kind of women, strating with Donna Hughs, her mentor, not a single guy, and she THANKS HER "PARTNER" DESIREE.
Need I say more. It was a verrry one sided read. The quotes used out of USASG were not used in context at all.
Oh well. Time to move on.
Have fun!
Tony
I could not have been any more ambiguous about the quoted event. Let's be serious these forums exist in every other place that it is illegal. I'm sure some reports hurt (like the ones that are overly descriptive like many on here used to be) where as others, like the one I just posted, surely do not. Loosen up or else this forum will just die out and Donna Hughes and the rest of her feminazi brigade will win the war, unless that's what your hoping for. However, considering you took the time to respond I don't think it is.
We can't all sit around shushing each other to keep quiet, like it's some big secret and we're the only ones that know what's going on. Do you honestly think the police don't know? And do you honestly think they have the time or man power to have someone sitting online observing these forums and others like it? Get a grip on reality.
You inspired me to do the same, and whaddayaknow--I'm there too!
Melanie (if you're out there, or ever come across this while ego-surfing on your own account), you're a lousy reader (and/or poor thinker). Just for two examples. (1) You totally mangled some information contained in a post I made, about the old Swedish Sauna in downtown Providence, turning it into definite falsehoods. (2) You listed "urination on women" as something available at Mineral Springs, presumably on the basis of "Scooter99"'s one and only post (02-18-06), in which he said "MS Ave offers hr, daty, golden showers, oral, but no fs" (translated in your thesis into "Manual stimulation, urination on woman, fellatio, cunnilingus. Not full service"). On what basis did you conclude that the "golden showers" supposedly available there were man-on-woman? The very few times I've heard of watersports at an AMP, they've been woman-on-man. If you did have evidence you should have published it instead of going off half-cocked.
I guess I should cut you some slack, since you were only an innocent young college senior when you wrote that "honors thesis". But, really, it's a scholarly disaster, and I hope some day you look back on it in shame. (Ain't holdin' my breath, though.)
When she finally gets that docrorate (IF she gets it!) we should all look her up and get her to buy a session at One Spa for each of us to show her gratitude for helping her to get that degree. That is if she doesn't get knocked up by some pimp and winds up on the street selling $10 bbbjcimnqns!!!
I could not have been any more ambiguous about the quoted event. Let's be serious these forums exist in every other place that it is illegal. I'm sure some reports hurt (like the ones that are overly descriptive like many on here used to be) where as others, like the one I just posted, surely do not. Loosen up or else this forum will just die out and Donna Hughes and the rest of her feminazi brigade will win the war, unless that's what your hoping for. However, considering you took the time to respond I don't think it is.
We can't all sit around shushing each other to keep quiet, like it's some big secret and we're the only ones that know what's going on. Do you honestly think the police don't know? And do you honestly think they have the time or man power to have someone sitting online observing these forums and others like it? Get a grip on reality.
Some idea of location and how to contact should be included or why bother.
You think just putting the last 4 digits allows us to find a provider and not LE.
Also the senior members only stuff, think LE cant be a SM.
Just posting a report of what happened with no way of us knowing if the provider is anywhere near us or how to contact does no good, why even bother.
Badlarry76
12-01-09, 11:28
I went to one of my favs yesterday and noticed a small, but not hidden camera outside the door pointed directly at the entrance. It was not there last time I visited. Could be management's, could be LE's, could be channel 12's???
Does anyone have any insight as far as how patrons could be charged? I would have thought only if you're caught with your hand in the cookie jar, so to speak. It really makes me think, unless LE busts into a room while people are actually having sex, how can it be justified that anything more than a legitimate massage goes down in any room. In other words, I'm there for a legitimate massage from a presumably licensed therapist and I don't care what's going on in the other room. What am I guilty of?
Would it be legal for them to photograph everyone that goes into a place and then post the photos wherever they want without legal charges? Any thoughts/ideas are appreciated. Good luck!
Donna Hughes
12-01-09, 12:17
You inspired me to do the same, and whaddayaknow--I'm there too!
Melanie (if you're out there, or ever come across this while ego-surfing on your own account), you're a lousy reader (and/or poor thinker). Just for two examples. (1) You totally mangled some information contained in a post I made, about the old Swedish Sauna in downtown Providence, turning it into definite falsehoods. (2) You listed "urination on women" as something available at Mineral Springs, presumably on the basis of "Scooter99"'s one and only post (02-18-06), in which he said "MS Ave offers hr, daty, golden showers, oral, but no fs" (translated in your thesis into "Manual stimulation, urination on woman, fellatio, cunnilingus. Not full service"). On what basis did you conclude that the "golden showers" supposedly available there were man-on-woman? The very few times I've heard of watersports at an AMP, they've been woman-on-man. If you did have evidence you should have published it instead of going off half-cocked.
I guess I should cut you some slack, since you were only an innocent young college senior when you wrote that "honors thesis". But, really, it's a scholarly disaster, and I hope some day you look back on it in shame. (Ain't holdin' my breath, though.)Good finding guys, but also notice another person she thanks is Andrea Dworkin? She is a famous lesbian feminazi that said all hetero-sexual sex is rape. So basically if you are not a homo you are a rapist! Where do they come up with this? I guess if they ran the world we would not have any population problems!
Anyway, to answer the previously posted question on camera's in the spas, all spas have cameras. The women are not interested in posting men's pictures, they are interested in protecting themselves from thieves and robbers. Also, even if we are in the spa at the time of a raid the police can not charge us unless they actually see your penis in her mouth/vagina at the same time you are handing her money. The only way the police can go into the spas is doing undercover set-ups, and that usually means a cop pretending to be a monger. As far as I know there are no asian women in the PPD, so it is 99. 99% no chance that they can send in a provider to work in a spa as an informant.
If you are a statistic person, play the odds. 90% of the arrests nation wide are of providers, 5% mongers and 5% pimps. In RI the odds are even more in our favor, 0 arrests of mongers. As long as you don't answer a suspicious CL ad you should be safe. Police will probably try to set up false ads and grab mongers, so they can say they are doing something. But as for the AMPs, there is virtually no chance of arrest.
I went to one of my favs yesterday and noticed a small, but not hidden camera outside the door pointed directly at the entrance. It was not there last time I visited. Could be management's, could be LE's, could be channel 12's???
Does anyone have any insight as far as how patrons could be charged? I would have thought only if you're caught with your hand in the cookie jar, so to speak. It really makes me think, unless LE busts into a room while people are actually having sex, how can it be justified that anything more than a legitimate massage goes down in any room. In other words, I'm there for a legitimate massage from a presumably licensed therapist and I don't care what's going on in the other room. What am I guilty of?
Would it be legal for them to photograph everyone that goes into a place and then post the photos wherever they want without legal charges? Any thoughts/ideas are appreciated. Good luck!
If your favorite is Heavenly or Lily they always had cameras, can you give us a hint.
I went to one of my favs yesterday and noticed a small, but not hidden camera outside the door pointed directly at the entrance. It was not there last time I visited. Could be management's, could be LE's, could be channel 12's???
Does anyone have any insight as far as how patrons could be charged? I would have thought only if you're caught with your hand in the cookie jar, so to speak. It really makes me think, unless LE busts into a room while people are actually having sex, how can it be justified that anything more than a legitimate massage goes down in any room. In other words, I'm there for a legitimate massage from a presumably licensed therapist and I don't care what's going on in the other room. What am I guilty of?
Would it be legal for them to photograph everyone that goes into a place and then post the photos wherever they want without legal charges? Any thoughts/ideas are appreciated. Good luck!
Got this through a PM - use your own judgment.
A police officer can arrest you on "suspicion," and when a police officer says you're under arrest, don't add a resisting or interfering with a police officer charge. Be polite, respectful, but silent.
The law does not make being present in a known prostitution venue a crime, so unless they catch you in the act, so to speak, you should not be charged. Now more than ever, caution is the name of the game.
Tomkat4848
12-01-09, 18:05
I went to one of my favs yesterday and noticed a small, but not hidden camera outside the door pointed directly at the entrance. It was not there last time I visited. Could be management's, could be LE's, could be channel 12's???
Does anyone have any insight as far as how patrons could be charged? I would have thought only if you're caught with your hand in the cookie jar, so to speak. It really makes me think, unless LE busts into a room while people are actually having sex, how can it be justified that anything more than a legitimate massage goes down in any room. In other words, I'm there for a legitimate massage from a presumably licensed therapist and I don't care what's going on in the other room. What am I guilty of?
Would it be legal for them to photograph everyone that goes into a place and then post the photos wherever they want without legal charges? Any thoughts/ideas are appreciated. Good luck!
Whether or not you are charged you should say nothing to the LE about anything you have done or not done because anything you say can be used against you. Above all, don't lie to the LEO. You may ask if you are under arrest. If you are you should ask to be able to contact an attorney. Remember your 5th amendment rights that you do not have to be a witness against yourself.
I went to one of my favs yesterday and noticed a small, but not hidden camera outside the door pointed directly at the entrance. It was not there last time I visited. Could be management's, could be LE's, could be channel 12's???
Does anyone have any insight as far as how patrons could be charged? I would have thought only if you're caught with your hand in the cookie jar, so to speak. It really makes me think, unless LE busts into a room while people are actually having sex, how can it be justified that anything more than a legitimate massage goes down in any room. In other words, I'm there for a legitimate massage from a presumably licensed therapist and I don't care what's going on in the other room. What am I guilty of?
Would it be legal for them to photograph everyone that goes into a place and then post the photos wherever they want without legal charges? Any thoughts/ideas are appreciated. Good luck!
I've never been to an AMP that didn't have a camera trained on the entrance - it's more for their protection than anything else - think of how much cash a reasonably busy AMP might have on the premises (unless some poor schlub pays with a credit card - BIG mistake there!!!)
I doubt the camera means anything else.
Dan Wesson
12-01-09, 21:07
Anyone have any info they can share. Saw an ad in boston back page for them.
Brahmabull
12-01-09, 21:16
I went to one of my favs yesterday and noticed a small, but not hidden camera outside the door pointed directly at the entrance. It was not there last time I visited. Could be management's, could be LE's, could be channel 12's???I have never been to an AMP that did not have cameras just because you have not seen them doesnt mean they were not there.
It is for the protection of the spa employees, yes so they can see who is coming and going before they let you in. Also gives Erotic places heads up when LE is about to enter.
They have no interest in your comming and going as a customer unless you misbehave.
Yes they may have alot of cash. As far as your picture, those cameras are always hooked up to a VCR or DVR, some are remotely broadcast via internet so the owner (who is offsite) can keep an eye on his place(s).
Even if you have never seen a camera in a spa, I assure you there are cameras there, the owner just may have chosen to be discreet and have them in fixtures, smoke detectors, etc...
I have never been to an AMP that did not have cameras just because you have not seen them doesnt mean they were not there.
It is for the protection of the spa employees, yes so they can see who is coming and going before they let you in. Also gives Erotic places heads up when LE is about to enter.
They have no interest in your comming and going as a customer unless you misbehave.
Yes they may have alot of cash. As far as your picture, those cameras are always hooked up to a VCR or DVR, some are remotely broadcast via internet so the owner (who is offsite) can keep an eye on his place(s).
Even if you have never seen a camera in a spa, I assure you there are cameras there, the owner just may have chosen to be discreet and have them in fixtures, smoke detectors, etc...Is there an echo in this room?
I have never been to an AMP that did not have cameras just because you have not seen them doesnt mean they were not there.
It is for the protection of the spa employees, yes so they can see who is coming and going before they let you in. Also gives Erotic places heads up when LE is about to enter.
They have no interest in your comming and going as a customer unless you misbehave.
Yes they may have alot of cash. As far as your picture, those cameras are always hooked up to a VCR or DVR, some are remotely broadcast via internet so the owner (who is offsite) can keep an eye on his place(s).
Even if you have never seen a camera in a spa, I assure you there are cameras there, the owner just may have chosen to be discreet and have them in fixtures, smoke detectors, etc...At my one visit to heavenly I saw the camera on the door and when I went in they had a TV right in the main room with what all the cameras were looking at and not one was a room.
Brahmabull
12-01-09, 23:01
Is there an echo in this room????Maybe, but there definately is a camera in this room.
Hunglatinman
12-02-09, 12:32
Good morning everyone.
Has anyone tried this place.
http://providence.craigslist.org/ads/1491399570.html
Thank you
Good morning everyone.
Has anyone tried this place.
http://providence.craigslist.org/ads/1491399570.html
Thank you
Went there several times in mid to late summer when it was called Moonlight Spa. Usually 2 girls working. When I was there the girls were Chinese and Japanese mid 30's to 40 years old. They have TS, massage tables are very small especially in width. FS available $100-$120 on top of house fee which I believe is now @ $50. I specifically went there initially on reports of a cute Japananese spinner approx 100lbs who was there. Was not disappointed and ended up spending a weekend with her at my apartment with no fees involved-in fact she took me out to dinner a couple of time and we became friends but she is no longer in the area. Not sure who is working there now. They open early in the morning. I used to go there as early as 8AM.
Member #6770
12-02-09, 21:36
Went there several times in mid to late summer when it was called Moonlight Spa. Usually 2 girls working. When I was there the girls were Chinese and Japanese mid 30's to 40 years old. They have TS, massage tables are very small especially in width. FS available $100-$120 on top of house fee which I believe is now @ $50. I specifically went there initially on reports of a cute Japananese spinner approx 100lbs who was there. Was not disappointed and ended up spending a weekend with her at my apartment with no fees involved-in fact she took me out to dinner a couple of time and we became friends but she is no longer in the area. Not sure who is working there now. They open early in the morning. I used to go there as early as 8AM.
I have to ask if the girl you hooked up with was Michelle? I know she was Chinese and Japanese. She was at Wakunskut when I first met her, she would always call me when she came back from "vacation". Quite a spinner, and the longest nipples I have ever seen. Last call she told me she was at #519 Atwells, never got over there. I am coming down rt 146, and there are too many closer choices before I would go that far.
I have to ask if the girl you hooked up with was Michelle? I know she was Chinese and Japanese. She was at Wakunskut when I first met her, she would always call me when she came back from "vacation". Quite a spinner, and the longest nipples I have ever seen. Last call she told me she was at #519 Atwells, never got over there. I am coming down rt 146, and there are too many closer choices before I would go that far.
Yes, and it was thanks to your post that I met her. She left the area to attend massage school and get a legitimate license. Has a dream of opening up her own business someday. Had a nice relationship with her for several weeks until she left. I certainly miss her, she was a real sweethearet. Very kind.
Pam Anderson
12-02-09, 22:33
Don't let my name Pam Anderson mislead you. I cannot believe the attitudes and
Narcissistic reasoning of the men on this site. Don't give me that justification baloney about how much women are making money and enjoying prostitution. Only 2 percent of the actual prostitutes are high rollers. I am sure one day a girl just wakes up and says "oh gee I'd love to have one man after another fill every hole in my body, again, and again and again. That's all these women are to many men. A receptacle to be filled. I feel sorry for you, for your monger days are limited, and the Lord above is watching. HE is watching you in your most nasty moments, in your dark alleys and the back seat of your cars.
I know many of you believe in Jesus. When you face him, I am sure every face of every girl or woman you have used, will be before you. Don't kid yourselves, there is a higher power, and he has your number.
Rebrobate218
12-03-09, 00:41
Don't let my name Pam Anderson mislead you. I cannot believe the attitudes and
Narcissistic reasoning of the men on this site. Don't give me that justification baloney about how much women are making money and enjoying prostitution. Only 2 percent of the actual prostitutes are high rollers. I am sure one day a girl just wakes up and says "oh gee I'd love to have one man after another fill every hole in my body, again, and again and again. That's all these women are to many men. A receptacle to be filled. I feel sorry for you, for your monger days are limited, and the Lord above is watching. HE is watching you in your most nasty moments, in your dark alleys and the back seat of your cars.
I know many of you believe in Jesus. When you face him, I am sure every face of every girl or woman you have used, will be before you. Don't kid yourselves, there is a higher power, and he has your number.Pam, I don't know if you are a man using a feminine handle or you are actually a woman. I suspect you are a man but it really doesn't matter. I have to strongly disagree with you. R. I. Did not desire to decimalize prostitution some 20 years ago the politicians who wrote and voted on the statue just screwed the dog on that, one and it has been a embarrassment to the state ever since. When the law was re-written the world did not come to an end. In countries were prostitution is not a criminal act anarchic does not rule. There is slavery in the world and sex slavery as well. Slavery is a crime against humanity whether a human being is picking cotton or sucking cocks. The issue is not slavery because there are already laws to address this. The real issue is the role of government. If you have two consenting adults doing this then why should the state get involved period?! As a man who has worked with prostitutes in the past I am amazed at how society and government addresses. This, and will not address to root causes. I personally believe that when you are addicted to heroin you will eventually do anything. The law that RI passed does not address drug addiction, treatment or real alternative to incarceration it is just the same old crap. Moreover, at the end of the day nobody, including you, really cares about the well being of actual prostitutes, you are just offended by the idea of prostitution, and your state legislators are embarrassed for the state. The US has 5% of the world's population and 25% of the world prisoners. That is the real sin. We have the worst drug policy of any industrialized nation on the planet. The state of RI had double digit unemployment long before this economic meltdown – and indoor prostitution was the only thing the state government could get done. Give me a break. I think Jesus would have bigger fish to fry. Get a life.
When you face him, I am sure every face of every girl or woman you have used, will be before you. Don't kid yourselves, there is a higher power, and he has your number.Nice, I thought I was only promised 7 virgins. Instead I'll have about 7,000 well trained freaks.
BTW, for some reason, I always feel like I'm the one that got used. Hopefully, the higher power takes into account the fact that I always tried to give pleasure before getting pleasured. My generousity and unselfishness should get me some points with the big guy.
Now that I'm thinking of it, I would even be happy to demonstrate my philanthropy and benevolence by donating some baby batter to your eyeballs.
Rebrobate218
12-03-09, 00:45
Don't let my name Pam Anderson mislead you. I cannot believe the attitudes and
Narcissistic reasoning of the men on this site. Don't give me that justification baloney about how much women are making money and enjoying prostitution. Only 2 percent of the actual prostitutes are high rollers. I am sure one day a girl just wakes up and says "oh gee I'd love to have one man after another fill every hole in my body, again, and again and again. That's all these women are to many men. A receptacle to be filled. I feel sorry for you, for your monger days are limited, and the Lord above is watching. HE is watching you in your most nasty moments, in your dark alleys and the back seat of your cars.
I know many of you believe in Jesus. When you face him, I am sure every face of every girl or woman you have used, will be before you. Don't kid yourselves, there is a higher power, and he has your number.You should also know that males will prostitute them selves as well. It is not a man vs. woman issue but a haves vs. have nots. Eliminate poverty around the world and everything will be OK. Drop you immature "us vs.them" bullshit attitude.
Gather round everyone Uncle Tug has a story to tell.
Normally I would not waste my time reporting on a simple visit to Lilly's but it is the first time I've been back since the loop hole was closed. As I reported the other day a fellow monger friend of mine had told me that the AMP scene was alive and well, boy was he right. After too many late nights on MFC and a lack of poon on the home front I decided it was time.
I hopped in the Monger Mobile and was off. Down 146 I sped and before I could second guess myself I was pulling in to Lilly's. I did the standard drive by in order to feel out the scene. The parking lot was empty and from the street business appeared slow. I turned around and parked right in front of the backdoor. I rang the bell and was greeted by mama. Everything seemed normal as she led me to a room. I did, however, get the feeling that they were being more cautious than usual. Instead of asking me for the 60 house fee mama looked me up and down once as if to make sure I wasn't an impostor. I handed her the money, without her asking, and she smiled after realizing I knew the routine.
My girl was a cute spinner type. Told me she was 25. Spoke pretty good English but I didn't even bother to ask her name. I wasn't there for small talk. I came to do dirt. Everything was the standard Lilly's treatment. Proper TS, however, she did ask me if I'd been there before, before she touched my rig. Another sign of them perhaps being more cautious now. Massage was excellent. Tease was on point and the tug was phenomenal, I blew over my shoulder and this is after cleaning the pipes before leaving the house. My only complaint is that I noticed a callus on her hand during the massage, which was irritating. I took it as a clear sign that business is doing well, considering it must have been from beating an excessive amount of dinky.
While I was in the room I heard at least a half dozen mongers coming and going. So I assume everyone must be parking down the street instead of in the lot.
Happy Mongering
P.S. Pam Anderson you must have forgotten that Mary Magdalene was a hooker. Are you trying to tell me that my boy Jesus wasn't catching tugs from that hoe? Yeah right. If he was still around today we'd be slapping high fives over a couple SWs.
MuffyTheDiver
12-03-09, 09:34
Don't let my name Pam Anderson mislead you. I cannot believe the attitudes and
Narcissistic reasoning of the men on this site. Don't give me that justification baloney about how much women are making money and enjoying prostitution. Only 2 percent of the actual prostitutes are high rollers. I am sure one day a girl just wakes up and says "oh gee I'd love to have one man after another fill every hole in my body, again, and again and again. That's all these women are to many men. A receptacle to be filled. I feel sorry for you, for your monger days are limited, and the Lord above is watching. HE is watching you in your most nasty moments, in your dark alleys and the back seat of your cars.
I know many of you believe in Jesus. When you face him, I am sure every face of every girl or woman you have used, will be before you. Don't kid yourselves, there is a higher power, and he has your number.Hmmm....Lets see, there will be a huge line of your priest ahead of me waiting to see the "Maker" for the FAR worse crimes they have done (child molestation)! Lets not get into a morals type conversation O.K. "Pam"! Love how all these priests go on with there lives like nothing ever happened. Do you think those little boys were consenting????? Don't force your beliefs down everyone elses throats, it will come back and bite you in the ass for sure. BTW, I seem to remember a little story in the bible about a prostitute and someone pretty high up in..........
MuffyTheDiver
12-03-09, 14:39
P.S. Pam Anderson you must have forgotten that Mary Magdalene was a hooker. Are you trying to tell me that my boy Jesus wasn't catching tugs from that hoe? Yeah right. If he was still around today we'd be slapping high fives over a couple SWs.
Uncle Tug,
I didn't see your post this morning but your statement above is exactly part of what I was commenting on! It seems that these "Mega Church Ladies & men" who feel they need to force their warped values on everyone have very selective morals themselves. Miss Pamela, you forget so easily about the dark secrets of your own faith? Please tell me that Child molestation & prositution does not exist within your faith by some of the most influential people who control your faith. Please tell me that what has happened behind closed doors within the Church is any more acceptable than the sex trade between two consenting adults. I am waiting to hear from you with your morality bantering church sermon!
Don't let my name Pam Anderson mislead you. I cannot believe the attitudes and
Narcissistic reasoning of the men on this site. Don't give me that justification baloney about how much women are making money and enjoying prostitution. Only 2 percent of the actual prostitutes are high rollers. I am sure one day a girl just wakes up and says "oh gee I'd love to have one man after another fill every hole in my body, again, and again and again. That's all these women are to many men. A receptacle to be filled. I feel sorry for you, for your monger days are limited, and the Lord above is watching. HE is watching you in your most nasty moments, in your dark alleys and the back seat of your cars.
I know many of you believe in Jesus. When you face him, I am sure every face of every girl or woman you have used, will be before you. Don't kid yourselves, there is a higher power, and he has your number.
The last thing the world needs is more religious fanatics like "Pam" who are rabid angry feminists. God, what an awful combination! I know some real women sex workers (voluntary, career prostitutes) who would laugh at Pam's stupid and irrelevant rant. Sure--most people would like a better, higher paying job with fewer indignities and receiving more respect, prostitutes included.
Feel free to PM me for info. Can't be too careful.
Martin Dobro
12-03-09, 16:00
Went back to Lily last night, and I can report that the girls there still give, hands down, the best massage in town. As previously reported, the mama seemed a little skittish, but when she recognized me she opened up a lot. Same-ole, same-ole.
They've tacked up signs indicating that prostitution, soliciting, and so forth are illegal. I've seen those signs in a lot of other towns with thriving scenes.
Be careful out there.
Existierende
12-03-09, 17:22
Yesterday I decided to try Pleasant, since I read earlier on the forum that Gina was back, and I was always eager to get a massage with her. I called and set up an appointment for late evening. I showed up about 10 mins. Early. Gina was ready right away. I was the only one there, which was a little odd. It turned out to really suck, b/c they weren't heating the place, and it was freezing! It was cold in the TS room (especially during the dry off phase), and I was shivering. Gina put me in the sauna to warm up, but the sauna wasn't turned on until I got in, which meant that it, too, was cold. Anyhow, the T/S was mediocre. On the flip, the important areas were covered by a rag. I pulled it askew and asked if she would mind washing me there. She did, but with a washrag, and very quickly. I was trying to be very nice and chatting and non-threatening (and I don't look like a cop), but it wasn't really working. The massage was done with a blanket covering my entire body, which I didn't mind since it was so freaking cold. The massage was very good, and she could tell which muscles were especially stiff and spent extra time on those. Then the flip with NO TEASE. I was pretty worried at this point. And lo, my front was massaged covered as well. At the end I asked about a HE and she said, no, it would cause problems with the police. We went back and forth about this for awhile. If you need to know how it turned out, PM me.
Gina is very sweet, and great at massage, but the added hassle and whatnot made it a very different experience from what I'm used to. Maybe on a return visit it would be better.
Only 2 percent of the actual prostitutes are high rollers.
Think about it - only about 2 percent of actual AMERICANS are "high rollers".
Snooze U Loose
12-04-09, 00:30
Don't let my name Pam Anderson mislead you. I cannot believe the attitudes and
Narcissistic reasoning of the men on this site. Don't give me that justification baloney about how much women are making money and enjoying prostitution. Only 2 percent of the actual prostitutes are high rollers. I am sure one day a girl just wakes up and says "oh gee I'd love to have one man after another fill every hole in my body, again, and again and again. That's all these women are to many men. A receptacle to be filled. I feel sorry for you, for your monger days are limited, and the Lord above is watching. HE is watching you in your most nasty moments, in your dark alleys and the back seat of your cars.
I know many of you believe in Jesus. When you face him, I am sure every face of every girl or woman you have used, will be before you. Don't kid yourselves, there is a higher power, and he has your number.Oh. I have heard this tirade before and I think I Know who you are. I don't post much, but I am pretty sure of this one. If I can confirm.
Happy Ending is watching me! I thought I was watching him.
Dearest Pam,
Abuse is what the pimps, and mamasans do. We pay a reasonable fee to get what our god fearing wifes have stopped providing way too long ago. Maybe, you can help me understand why a girlfriend can suck a golf ball through a garden hose, but a wife can barely spread her legs? I have been around the block several times, so you aren't pulling any synthetic wool over my eyes. You are simply a dude seeing how many feathers you can ruffle. And homey don't play that shit.
Prostitution is either legal, or allowed in more countries than not. Deal with it.
Don't let my name Pam Anderson mislead you. I cannot believe the attitudes and
Narcissistic reasoning of the men on this site. Don't give me that justification baloney about how much women are making money and enjoying prostitution. Only 2 percent of the actual prostitutes are high rollers. I am sure one day a girl just wakes up and says "oh gee I'd love to have one man after another fill every hole in my body, again, and again and again. That's all these women are to many men. A receptacle to be filled. I feel sorry for you, for your monger days are limited, and the Lord above is watching. HE is watching you in your most nasty moments, in your dark alleys and the back seat of your cars.
I know many of you believe in Jesus. When you face him, I am sure every face of every girl or woman you have used, will be before you. Don't kid yourselves, there is a higher power, and he has your number.
God, this dam site is so depressing these day. Hope things improve.
My God, you are so right! It has been 12 years in my marriage with no sex, no sexual touching, no nothing. That is why I go to the AMP's. I desperately need the touch of a woman, to feel her body beside me, to smell her hair, etc. For me, marriage is sort of like a pie. Even when there is a small slice missing from the pie (sex), that small slice is so very huge in your life, your life is feeling empty and missing something that makes feel human. These lovely ladies fill that void in my life. I am so glad they are here.
Jesus, NUGUY stop being so correct It's all about intimacy and the lack of it. I need to for full a big void in my life. And I am not getting it from the Leader of the Band. The yearning for the tender touch of Women. The never ending battle of the I got a headache, Not now I'm tiered Bullshit. That's why most married men cheat cause their wives had stopped or changed or loss that need for human sexuality. That's why some of us stray!
Rick
Martin Dobro
12-06-09, 18:23
i was in a weird kind of mood, so i stopped off at central today. usually i'm a lily's loyalist - but a little variety doesn't hurt.
circled the block once when i saw people coming and going downstairs. i spook pretty easily these days. however, all seemed calm on a return trip so i parked and rang the bell.
the woman at the desk, like with lily's, seemed skittish at first. she warmed up when she recognized me. we chatted for a bit, and then she apologized but said she needed to see a picture id. "nothing written down, but my lawyer says that i need to check id for **** and other problems." so i went to the car and got my id. she made no bones about the fact that my initials on the sign in sheet didn't match the first letters from any of my names - so i'm not too concerned.
the place was dead the whole time i was there. i hung out in the sauna for a long time. if the place is busy, a long sit in the shower can bug me - but if things are slow i prefer to take my time. eventually, in walks bibi. tall, super-skinny korean girl with long black hair. she got me cleaned up in the shower, and then back to the room. she gave an excellent massage ... oops ... sorry ... "body rub." they don't do "massage" there. the signs say so. in the middle, she flipped me over and relaxed me. after the hot towel, to my delight she had me flip back over and continued kneading for another 20 minutes at least. bliss.
not much conversation, but exactly the right touch. $60 for the house and $140 as tip. money was never mentioned in the room. the signs say that would be inappropriate.
as an aside: more reports. less sniping. don't feed the trolls.
Piled up enough scratch to hit my fave MP in that quiet spot under the bridge four or five days back. Phoned ahead for availability, arrived one hour before closing exactly.
Now I'm not sure why others have decried yoyo across the board, I've seen her many times and by now she may just be my ATF. She was the first girl here to offer me more than a slick handshake, and her sweet but saucy way made quite a pleasant impression on me. YMMV strikes again I suppose. I'm def younger than her, and on close inspection she won't pass for 20s, but she's 100% beautiful in my book. And really, the complaints over her teeth? They're barely noticeable. Noticeable isn't even the word, they're charming. It's called "character, " friends, and the skills lurking behind those pearly whites are a feast for the phallus.
After a friendly table shower she provides a fine medium massage (never asks, just lays you down and begins). Knowing my usual request, after the flip informs me "no more condoms now, next time you bring, ok? " ah well, you're the boss. So we're off with HR, move swiftly to a disrobed HR, aaaand Russian to the finish line. As usual, I get another 10 minutes or so of forehead/neck/shoulder massage post-peak.
Full hour $70, $60 tip for going above and beyond the standard R&T and the unparalleled rapport.
Stay safe, "criminals. "
Dd
Snooze U Loose
12-07-09, 08:13
The only reason you have probably heard this tirade before is because you have been on so many monger sites, and ha its just the sound of your conscience probably drowning in your ears. Don't worry fella, we all hear this tirade all the time, its only the wife's face coming to mind. After all who washes our dirty clothes after a night of bar-hopping, hooking up and jacking off? The wife- who won't give us sex, and stays home, mending, washing and ironing our clothes.
But don't worry your secret is safe on this site. We all lay down with dogs. HaNo it is because I remember some one I know spouting off in a similar manner in a different social setting. I'm still checking and hoping to hears some comment that will confirm my suspicions
Anyway, the reality of the new law is that clubs and the AMPs business are way down. I have been approached at least 5 times in the last few weeks, by a number of the women, to see them in more "private" settings. So the net result is that the action is being driven underground.
Badlarry76
12-08-09, 10:54
Does anyone have any intel they'd care to share on a young lady named Alley offering massage in Providence? PM me with info please. Good luck.
-BL
Does anyone have any intel they'd care to share on a young lady named Alley offering massage in Providence? PM me with info please. Good luck.
BLDo you have a link for this?
Made a detour to CH earlier this week, things are very quiet, (two girls YoYO and DeDe, both of whom I've met before) but otherwise as I had expected.
Not to cheerlead here, but if we all stay home for months, these places will dry up and blow away.
I know the Pats went in the tank, and they were allegedly the sure bet but open up your wallets, AMPs need love too.
MuffyTheDiver
12-09-09, 16:00
Well for weeks I have been laying low and not visiting any Amps due to the foggy future in this state. After much planning and thought I could not hold out any longer.
First plan of action was to find and hit a spa that has the least visiblilty, fewest reports and one that would not be on the top ten hit list for the foreseable (sp) future!
Sorry, but this report is going to be a bit vague in specific detail but will have enough info for seniors who know the deal and understand (bad times for newbies here)!
On to my my visit......
It's been about a couple years since I have visited the 1021, ever since Yung left I haven't had much interest in the place that held my title of "My Favorite Amp". This particular place of business has really never been on the list of "RI's best" or any where near it, but I always had fair and good treatment there. Another benefit of this place is the location is very discreet. No one there cares or even notices you, no prying eyes and I have the feeling very few know it exists there. Lastly, I knew with the new laws there business would be very slow and they would be anxious to provide a fantastic time to hopefully garner a trustworthy return visitor.
Rang bell, up stairs and was greeted by a young Mama, who promptly asked if I had been there before and who I was with. My answers must have been correct because I was whisked off to my room, fee collected and told to get undressed and my girl would be right in.
My girl "Coco" comes in and promptly again asks when last I was there and who I saw, again I had the secret decoder and was allowed to the next level. She helped me with my towel as I made sure to hug and touch appropriately to show her my true intentions along with a nice kiss. Off to the shower which was OK, room was cold but she did her best to warm me. She cleaned all the right spots and actually gave a good but brief soapy massage (clean as a whistle). Dry off and back to the room where she had set up a portable heater to try and take the chill out...these places must be trying to conserve every way they can!
Layed out and she started with massage with towel draped over me, I asked to remove it and she did so immediately. The massage was fantastic, I like them hard and she certainly was able to provide with very strong hands. She hit every muscle group 2-3 times kneeding, twisting and rubbing. I would give her massage skills an 8-9 but remember I like them hard. Massage went on for a good 20-30 minutes then started the soft touch. Soft touch went way too fast maybe 2-3 minutes and she was on to the question we all look forward to hearing "everything"? "Yes my dear everything"!
All bases were covered very well with no limits I could find, she was very much into it and kept going for the "O" or at least the act of the "O" which was very convincing. One thing that makes the visit an A+ for me is that whomever I am with enjoys the encounter as much as I or at least is able to put on a Emmy awards like act! Coco, either is the best at her act or she truely did enjoy our little trist as there was a larger than normal "wet weather front" and I know for sure there was no added assistance to that area!
After the event, she continued massage on front with the same vigor she had applied to the back. Hot towel, dressed me and a nice kiss and off to continue my day with a big smile.
On the way out young mama, and two other girls plus Coco surrounded me at the door and chatted for a bit. This was really interesting since one of the girls was rubbing my shoulders, another rubbing my johnny and Coco rubbing my chest and giving nice kisses. Jokingly I said next time I would like all three together, they said please they would welcome this and asked a few times when i would come back to have them all.....while I am sure this would be a blast, I have a terrible time multi tasking, so this might not be a good idea for me! Mama mentioned the cost and it was very reasonable.
So anyways here goes - ratings below:
Looks - 5-6 she certainly is not the "One" type spinner, I would guess she was in her late 30's with small B cups very firm natural breast with huge long nipples (my fav)!
Shower: 7 ish
Massage: 8+ if you like them hard!
Event: 8 ish, because she seemed to enjoy very much and enchoraged me to bring on the "O". This is what makes the difference to me, If I wanted to just to stick my pole in a hole i would buy a rubber doll. Yes "Pam" I do care that the lady I visit enjoys the act and that she is not used to the point of having no feeling. This is why I stay clear of the "One" I feel that the girls are way too busy there and possibly have lost any feeling of intamcy (sp) with any man.
Overall: 7-8
I would return as long as ULEO doesn't suddenly jump into action!
I tried a visit with Alice,mentioned favorably here,and it was a positive experience.She is in a spotless apartment in a nice downtown high rise and there is private parking available,but it being Sunday morning,I didn't need her to buzz me into the lot.
Her number doesn't seem to work anymore. Is she still around?
AsianLPGAfan
12-09-09, 22:37
Her number doesn't seem to work anymore. Is she still around?I posted 2 reports from the summer. I liked Alice personally but didn't like the ton of calls she got.
With the new law I called her a couple of weeks ago.
She pulled her ads, business was droppimg from her regulars and her expensive apartment was month to month.
My guess is she didn't renew for December and went back to I think she told me Flushing NY.
With folks skiddish about AMPs still too bad Alice had a great and safe set up. She also wasn't sore on your eyes if you got her undressed.
Member #4868
12-09-09, 23:01
Yes, Unfortunately for us , Alice has moved to NY as of last week. ( Spoke with her last Monday)
pwH
Her number doesn't seem to work anymore. Is she still around?
RickyRicardo
12-11-09, 12:22
I have been dying to try this one but am hesitant. if anyone has had a good experience PM me and I will be glad to share info on a few great places here in Mass....non asian.
thanks
RR
I have not contributed in quite some time as I have been unusually busy but had just a little extra time this afternoon. As is my practice, I try to visit new places and offer a report.
I ventured to 100 Fountain Street in Providence and visited Capitol Massage.
They advertise like mad on CL and while they say non sexual. You and I sometimes know a little better. In fact, I thought it may be a "place ahead of the curve" offering discrete extras, preparing for the eventuality which is soon to be upon us.
I arrived, and I feed the meter, the place is in the shadow of the Sportsman, which gives me a good feeling. The front of the building is reminiscent of the combat zone in Boston. There is the neon OPEN, I enter and then have to ring the bell to get in. All good signs.
I get in and am met by Jess. She is twenty something, kinda cute, and I can visualize her performing a variety of functions on the little guy.
Then it starts.
I have to fill out the massage new client registration. All bull shit of course. She grabs my intro fee of $59.00 (a figure I recall. Nod nod, wink wink).
Off to the room, and they have a ton of them (also a good sign). She tells me to undress, leave underwear on and to lay down and drape myself to my chest. Sounding bad.
Notfornutthin, but I have had 5,000 plus massages and whenever someone tells me to leave underwear on, we are playing insecure amateur hour here.
She comes in, totally unprepared bumping into everything and gets to the action itself. She rubs and rubs and rubs. I ask where she went to school locally and tells me she is untrained. Immediately, I think that there has to be a reason why someone would come here as her massage was OK, but uninspired. I wait for the question, the hint, the caress of the ass. IT NEVER CAME, nor did I.
I get changed and on the way out, there is a woman at the desk who I can only describe as Elvira of vampire fame. Jess gives me a slip of paper with her info on it and there was a hot little smiling blond number there as well.
I have descent radar and I tell you that there M U S T be extras available, but I did not ask the right question or make the right move, or something else. You could feel it in the air.
So, if someone has inside info or perhaps knows Jess a little better than I do, please get in touch. On a purely pragmatic level, no reason to visit again or ever.
One note, as I was leaving, apparently Jess had mentioned to Elvira that I asked where she went to school and Elvira asked me three times how I enjoyed my rub. First time that word was ever used and all the artwork says massage. As far as I can see, they are operating illegally and are unlicensed by the state, as I am aware of the requirements for a massage therapist license in RI, and they are comprehensive and time consuming to fulfill.
I hope someone, ANYONE has the "magic word" to say to get some action. The girls looked cute and offer a different scene when not in the mood for fried rice.
Member #4063
12-11-09, 12:57
From a review on a certain large canine
Posted by Traveler , Wed, Dec 09, 2009, 23:03:47 Post Reply Reviews by Traveler Boston Spa & Massage Board Main *********.net site
I haven't posted on this board for many years. I recently decided that I had enough with the Asians and decided to try Capital Massage in Providence. My first trip was about 10 days ago. My therapist was dark skinned and attractive. My first impression of her was positive, like the old days at Joy and Matrix. Then we hit the table. I was scolded for not being completely draped. I was tucked in tighter then a baby in a diaper. The massage was in one word 'crazy'. Her hands moved over a very limited amount of my body like she was spreading frosting on a cake. No real massage and certainly no sensual excitement. Any suggestion I made about removing the sheet was met with a lecture and stern look. So i laid there and just thought about the $75 fee.
OK. So I made an investment. Time to try again. A week later I went back and this time was assigned a ditzy blond without any personality. I'm still hoping for some excitement and relief. Get on the table, and the door opens. In a loud shrill I'm told to get under the covers. This time even less of my body is exposed. The sheet is cutting off my circulation it's tucked in so tight. Then I notice the sign warning me that should I try and remove the sheet or solicit the therapist I lose my fee and will be tossed. This girl never spoke one word to me while she smeared me with oil.
In the 25 years of following this hobby I have always felt some 'excitement' when I got a massage. Getting a massage at Capital the only thing I felt was humiliation. I was embarassed by the fact that not only did I have 1 bad experience, but I was fool enough to go back for a second bad experience.
Poof $150 gone. If you want a massage like Capital's then go to Massage Envy. Save your money.
Did I say the rooms didn't have ceilings and you can hear everything. Like heels clicking, telephone conversations, walkins, etc.
We need more choices for getting classic FBSM massages then the Asian businesses, but don't expect much from Capital. Look elsewhere.
i haven't
This clearly tells me no chance they will ever see me there
Donna Hughes
12-11-09, 16:27
State police today said they arrested 8 men and 6 women.
Notice all are in hotels?
Looks like the AMPs are safe, there is no way they can arrest any men there.
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/12/state-police-arrest-14-under-s.html
AsianLPGAfan
12-11-09, 22:03
Kenn Jack
I saw the ad recently it seemed to good to be true. I don't think it is YMMV
Your TOFTx 2 was a reasonable approach. Many of us go back for a second visit thinking we have an opportunity for something.These chicks are clearly setting up shop(or for someone)to pick up quick cash for shitty service without any work and this new law provides "the out".
Just pisses you off.
MuffyTheDiver
12-12-09, 08:41
State police today said they arrested 8 men and 6 women.
Notice all are in hotels?
Looks like the AMPs are safe, there is no way they can arrest any men there.
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/12/state-police-arrest-14-under-s.html
OK, I have to ask, why do you feel they can not arrest and PUBLISH any Johns at the massage Parlors?
Ampdude 2003
12-12-09, 09:49
This was only one method - a sting involving men responding to ADs and being arrested or women placing ADs (low hanging fruit). LE can easily create a separate operation focusing on other venues.
Publishing names in the article is the real deterrent here ... yikes.
State police today said they arrested 8 men and 6 women.
Notice all are in hotels?
Looks like the AMPs are safe, there is no way they can arrest any men there.
http://newsblog.projo.com/2009/12/state-police-arrest-14-under-s.html
Ampdude 2003
12-12-09, 09:56
Yes, even the Patriots Mascot is trying to get drown his trials and tribs resulting from the Pat's recent poor play and team turmoil ...
http://www.nesn.com/2009/12/man-who-acts-as-patriots-mascot-arrested-for-prostitutionrelated-crime.html
Ampdude 2003
12-12-09, 10:16
This is my second venture in the aftermath, first was to One / Mimi (horrible, see report).
Visit was mid-week around 3p. I knocked and the same mama that I knew opened the door. Of course I got scolded for taking such a long leave of absence. There seem to be two girls working - Yuri (I reported on her recently) and Candi. I only saw Yuri in the hallway after I was assigned Candi.
Candi is slightly above average looking, a little more stock on her for a Korean girl but not fat. I would describe as 5'4", mid-back straight length hair, average looks. TS, Sauna, rub all as expected.
As 'Muff' reported in his venture out to 1021, volume is obviously down and there is a concerted effort to get you back and sooner than later. I also noticed that in spite lots of strong evidence that I am not LE (long history with mama, knows Yuri, etc) that the Q&A component is strong. One thing I thought of - I am sure LE was going to these places prior to law change, and I would not be surprised if some of the same guys may in fact return on a separate LE event - you just never know and never can be too careful.
BTW - I saw the recent bust reports posted here with names - what is a rude awakening is I was actually thinking about a visit to one Asian / Prov advertisement for a "drop dead gorgeous" asian girl at hotel. No way now ...yikes.
Donna Hughes
12-12-09, 10:35
Both stings had a cop as a monger or a prostitute. How do you think they got the info to do an arrest? If you are a monger and go to an AMP, do you think that the State Police have any korean women who could work undercover in an AMP? Even if the police have a korean employee do you think that the AMP would hire her? Most of the women know each other, so not very likely.
The only way that a monger could get arrested in an AMP is if they arrested all the women and the women said they were having sex for money and gave the names of the men (Do you use your real name at the AMP?). The women in the spas never talk to the police. So it is 99. 99% safe for men to go to an AMP. The only arrests that can be made is of the women if LE sends in an undercover and does a sting. If you are at an AMP when a raid happens, you can say you were just getting a massage. Unless LE sees you there with your penis in the hand, mouth, vagina, or anus while you are handing them cash, there is no evidence. I wouldn't even give my name to the police so it wouldn't get to the projo, they have no evidence to arrest so you don't have to give anything to them.
If anyone thinks I am wrong let me know, but the way I see it is the AMPs are the only way to go right now. Answering an ad is too risky.
MuffyTheDiver
12-12-09, 22:46
Both stings had a cop as a monger or a prostitute. How do you think they got the info to do an arrest? If you are a monger and go to an AMP, do you think that the State Police have any korean women who could work undercover in an AMP? Even if the police have a korean employee do you think that the AMP would hire her? Most of the women know each other, so not very likely.
The only way that a monger could get arrested in an AMP is if they arrested all the women and the women said they were having sex for money and gave the names of the men (Do you use your real name at the AMP?). The women in the spas never talk to the police. So it is 99. 99% safe for men to go to an AMP. The only arrests that can be made is of the women if LE sends in an undercover and does a sting. If you are at an AMP when a raid happens, you can say you were just getting a massage. Unless LE sees you there with your penis in the hand, mouth, vagina, or anus while you are handing them cash, there is no evidence. I wouldn't even give my name to the police so it wouldn't get to the projo, they have no evidence to arrest so you don't have to give anything to them.
If anyone thinks I am wrong let me know, but the way I see it is the AMPs are the only way to go right now. Answering an ad is too risky.
YES, I do think you are wrong! I swear I heard or read somewhere that part of this new law included wording that would allow LE to bust your ass for just being in the premises of a known place of prostitution! So in essence all the PoPo has to do is prove that the particular AMP in questions is known for prostitution, and now you (The John) become part of the raid, the parade and the Projo Lynching! Good luck with that my friend!
So you ask how does the PoPo prove the AMP they are raiding is known for prosititution? By sending OC in as customers and build the evidence. My prayers are with any of you who think the way Donna Hughes thinks here in his comments. Please do not bank on the false security of the AMPS. Trust me, there will be one or more going down very soon and wouldn't it make a much better ProJo article to have a bunch of John's names to print and ruin lives?????
Westbayman2000
12-12-09, 23:14
I agree wholeheartedly.
I think the only way you get in trouble is if you answer an ad for someone you don't know. If you stick to the AMP's or with escorts that you know, you should be fine.
You could use someone who is recommended here, but you need to be sure you trust the source.
Both stings had a cop as a monger or a prostitute. How do you think they got the info to do an arrest? If you are a monger and go to an AMP, do you think that the State Police have any korean women who could work undercover in an AMP? Even if the police have a korean employee do you think that the AMP would hire her? Most of the women know each other, so not very likely.
The only way that a monger could get arrested in an AMP is if they arrested all the women and the women said they were having sex for money and gave the names of the men (Do you use your real name at the AMP?). The women in the spas never talk to the police. So it is 99. 99% safe for men to go to an AMP. The only arrests that can be made is of the women if LE sends in an undercover and does a sting. If you are at an AMP when a raid happens, you can say you were just getting a massage. Unless LE sees you there with your penis in the hand, mouth, vagina, or anus while you are handing them cash, there is no evidence. I wouldn't even give my name to the police so it wouldn't get to the projo, they have no evidence to arrest so you don't have to give anything to them.
If anyone thinks I am wrong let me know, but the way I see it is the AMPs are the only way to go right now. Answering an ad is too risky.
I don't know the language of your new law, but there is a similar concept in other states.
Here in Virginia we are blessed with the crime of "Frequenting a Baudy Place". Frequenting can be one time. They don't have to prove that YOU knew it was a "baudy place". So, basically, if someone else decides it's a baudy place and you are there then you are guilty.
YES, I do think you are wrong! I swear I heard or read somewhere that part of this new law included wording that would allow LE to bust your ass for just being in the premises of a known place of prostitution! So in essence all the PoPo has to do is prove that the particular AMP in questions is known for prostitution, and now you (The John) become part of the raid, the parade and the Projo Lynching! Good luck with that my friend!
So you ask how does the PoPo prove the AMP they are raiding is known for prosititution? By sending OC in as customers and build the evidence. My prayers are with any of you who think the way Donna Hughes thinks here in his comments. Please do not bank on the false security of the AMPS. Trust me, there will be one or more going down very soon and wouldn't it make a much better ProJo article to have a bunch of John's names to print and ruin lives?????
I don't know the language of your new law, but there is a similar concept in other states.
Here in Virginia we are blessed with the crime of "Frequenting a Baudy Place". Frequenting can be one time. They don't have to prove that YOU knew it was a "baudy place". So, basically, if someone else decides it's a baudy place and you are there then you are guilty.
Read the Rhode Island law:
http://www.rilin.state.ri.us/BillText09/HouseText09/H5044B.pdf
As has been pointed out here before, there is no language equal to "Frequenting a Baudy Place". From a lawyer member of this forum:
A police officer can arrest you on "suspicion," and when a police officer says you're under arrest, don't add a resisting or interfering with a police officer charge. Be polite, respectful, but silent.
The law does not make being present in a known prostitution venue a crime, so unless they catch you in the act, so to speak, you should not be charged.
Think about it. If there were a "baudy" law then the strip clubs in RI would have shut down overnight given what was supposedly happening in the clubs as nobody would/could enter as it would mean immediate arrest. Now, do I just run out and visit RI the way I used to before Nov. 3 - no I don't. Like everybody else, I don't want my name in the papers as a "suspect" as even when I'm proven innocent, the paper never publishes that. Now, are the spas safe? - apparently safer than CL for now but TBH, I'm a little surprised that the RISP chose this route instead of its first bust being a highly publicized raid of a spa. Mind you, it could just be a waiting game. We all know the spas are hurting due to a dramatic decline in business and it is probably only a matter of time before some of them just can't stay open any longer. So maybe LE is just letting this happen and then will go "clean out" the survivors. In the meantime, they have a report to file in January so they have to stage these stupid CL stings to look important.
So, bottom line is that the spas are a gamble, a risk some are obviously willing to take (my hat is off to you) but I think that even though you have to be caught in the act, you will still be in for a major hassle if, indeed, there is a raid and you are there.
Donna Hughes
12-13-09, 12:18
Read the projo today, the strip clubs had alot to say about the forming of the law.
Check out the lawyer Goldberg who lobbied for the language so the strip clubs would not be effected:
http://www.projo.com/news/content/sexlobby_12-13-09_5RGP9LJ_v3.20a4931.html
Also the effect on business.
http://www.projo.com/news/content/stripclub_12-13-09_5RGP9LS_v3.20a5aa6.html
Strip clubs are big business in RI, even with a prostitution law. They are being effected right now by mongers being afraid of lurking reporters, but the money in these places, they will not disappear. The AMPS should have done some lobbying too, but it is too late.
Member #4063
12-13-09, 12:41
This is an article from the Projo and is very interesting detailed the economic impact of the new law. Sounds like it is having some significantly unintended consequences. Also the comments on the article wherein the paper released the names of the people arrested in the first sting are very telling. You guys can read them for yourselves, but they are overwhelmingly negative to both the RISP and the paper. I will also post this in the strip club forum.
Jack
http://www.projo.com/news/content/strip_clubs_defense_12-13-09_UJGNFH6_v121.353f756.html
I seem to recall that in Virginia, sex is only legal between a man and a woman, married (to each other), indoors, at night, missionary, with the blinds closed, and with her mother's permission. Of course, when some of those laws were passed, they had a special underclass available for exploitation in that part of the world.
BTW it's spelled "bawdy", and I think MA has a similar law. Doesn't RI also have a law on the books against operating (not frequenting!) a "bawdy house"?
I don't know the language of your new law, but there is a similar concept in other states.
Here in Virginia we are blessed with the crime of "Frequenting a Baudy Place". Frequenting can be one time. They don't have to prove that YOU knew it was a "baudy place". So, basically, if someone else decides it's a baudy place and you are there then you are guilty.
I think if you are going to do anything in RI the mp's are your best bet. Don't get me wrong you can get busted there also. Like DH said unless they bust the whole place and catch you in the act you have a better chance that picking up a sw because you don't know who is watching even if you know the sw and an escort might be a sting.
My problem is I am just scared. I went to foxwoods yesterday and won 5.00. Everytime I win I stop on my way back to Boston at one spa or main st. This time I was scared after reading earlier about the pat the patriot sting and kept driving. And nothing in Boston comes close to RI and I want to go but I can't get the nerve.
I have a feeling that they will do a sting soon. And you don't want to be there when it happens. Even if they don't put you name in the paper & your found not guilty in court it's alot of bull sht to go through just for a nut.
AsianLPGAfan
12-13-09, 20:50
Read the Rhode Island law:
http://www.Rilin. State. Ri. Us/BillText09/HouseText09/H5044B. Pdf
As has been pointed out here before, there is no language equal to "Frequenting a Baudy Place". From a lawyer member of this forum:
Think about it. If there were a "baudy" law then the strip clubs in RI would have shut down overnight given what was supposedly happening in the clubs as nobody would/could enter as it would mean immediate arrest. Now, do I just run out and visit RI the way I used to before Nov. 3. No I don't. Like everybody else, I don't want my name in the papers as a "suspect" as even when I'm proven innocent, the paper never publishes that. Now, are the spas safe?. Apparently safer than CL for now but TBH, I'm a little surprised that the RISP chose this route instead of its first bust being a highly publicized raid of a spa. Mind you, it could just be a waiting game. We all know the spas are hurting due to a dramatic decline in business and it is probably only a matter of time before some of them just can't stay open any longer. So maybe LE is just letting this happen and then will go "clean out" the survivors. In the meantime, they have a report to file in January so they have to stage these stupid CL stings to look important.
So, bottom line is that the spas are a gamble, a risk some are obviously willing to take (my hat is off to you) but I think that even though you have to be caught in the act, you will still be in for a major hassle if, indeed, there is a raid and you are there.The recent news of this sting will just "ice" many until "something" else happens. Namely the first AMP bust. It is a catch 22. You dam'd if you do and if you don't. On the other hand many will think if I don't at least I know I won't get nailed by the fuzz for the whole world to know.
Badlarry76
12-14-09, 15:49
Has anyone had a recent visit with Mrs Robinson they'd like to share. I know she's older. I'm thinking of taking the plunge. Please PM details. Thanks
-BL
ARegularGuy
12-14-09, 20:24
Short report,
First visit ever to Bali, been months since I've sen the inside of an RI AMP. Drew Pepsi, tall slender, 29 yo K girl, wearing a bikini, big really firm C size store boughts, very long hair, nice make-up, painted eye lashes...generally stunning. 5 minute sauna, complete TS with repeated scrubbing of my dirtiest parts. Massage, first she drops the bikini, climbs on my back, gives a few dozen well placed pushes here and there, a little rubbing, next thing I know she dragging her nips and hair along my back followed soon by a "near" rim job, taint licking...you get the picture. I roll over. light kissing, light licks on and all around the flag pole, 69, cover on and we are off. Tight, slippery and welcoming, several key and favorite positions and we are done. She has nips almost the same size as the my little finger from the last nuckle on, OMG. About 50 minutes total, including waiting. Money was never mentioned, ever. I offered $60 after I undressed and left a common and apparently acceptable tip after I got dressed. Want to know anything more send a PM. Saw at least 4 other girls, all shorter, generally young, generally pretty, stroll by the sauna which has a beveled/leaded glass door that you can kinda sorta see out through, barely! One was at least a double D that looked real, don't see that very often.
ARG
The recent news of this sting will just "ice" many until "something" else happens. Namely the first AMP bust. It is a catch 22. You dam'd if you do and if you don't. On the other hand many will think if I don't at least I know I won't get nailed by the fuzz for the whole world to know.
Very good point - I'm waiting for the first AMP bust before I venture out to an AMP in Providence.
Although the activities are curtailed, I think the strip clubs are the safest right now. Unless they drop in through the ceiling and find a dancer with your dick in her mouth, it's going to be tough to catch any customers. After all, they're licensed by the state to serve alcohol and provide "entertainment", so they can't use the blanket charge of being in a "baudy" (sic, as someone pointed out here, it's bawdy) house.
Member #4868
12-14-09, 22:50
Short report,
First visit ever to Bali, been months since I've sen the inside of an RI AMP. Drew Pepsi, tall slender, 29 yo K girl, wearing a bikini, big really firm C size store boughts, very long hair, nice make-up, painted eye lashes...generally stunning. 5 minute sauna, complete TS with repeated scrubbing of my dirtiest parts. Massage, first she drops the bikini, climbs on my back, gives a few dozen well placed pushes here and there, a little rubbing, next thing I know she dragging her nips and hair along my back followed soon by a "near" rim job, taint licking...you get the picture. I roll over. light kissing, light licks on and all around the flag pole, 69, cover on and we are off. Tight, slippery and welcoming, several key and favorite positions and we are done. She has nips almost the same size as the my little finger from the last nuckle on, OMG. About 50 minutes total, including waiting. Money was never mentioned, ever. I offered $60 after I undressed and left a common and apparently acceptable tip after I got dressed. Want to know anything more send a PM. Saw at least 4 other girls, all shorter, generally young, generally pretty, stroll by the sauna which has a beveled/leaded glass door that you can kinda sorta see out through, barely! One was at least a double D that looked real, don't see that very often.
ARG
Thanks for the post and the " detailed" info.
I have a nice vision of your visit and am getting close to finally venturing back out!
Note the recent raids were Rhode Island State Police Action.
It is not certain, but State Police are less likely to be out and conducting investigations in Providence. (Too likely to step on some brother officer's friends). State Police tend to stay away from larger cities that have their own detective squads so, I suspect, Providence will be off the State Police radar for the present.
Additionally, 3 Providence detectives were shot and injured in the line of duty today. That means their effective presence is reduced by at least 30%, and they will be distracted for the foreseeable future reigning down terror on anyone remotely connected to the shooting of those detectives.
I would suggest that Providence will not be a hot bed of LEO activity around the hobby for at least the next 3-6 months.
Be good.
AsianLPGAfan
12-15-09, 20:34
Note the recent raids were Rhode Island State Police Action.
It is not certain, but State Police are less likely to be out and conducting investigations in Providence. (Too likely to step on some brother officer's friends). State Police tend to stay away from larger cities that have their own detective squads so, I suspect, Providence will be off the State Police radar for the present.
Additionally, 3 Providence detectives were shot and injured in the line of duty today. That means their effective presence is reduced by at least 30%, and they will be distracted for the foreseeable future reigning down terror on anyone remotely connected to the shooting of those detectives.
I would suggest that Providence will not be a hot bed of LEO activity around the hobby for at least the next 3-6 months.
Be good.Sorry to read about 3 cops getting shot during a raid of a drug dealer. The story tells you where there are more public safety concerns.
Then again if I were a cop I probably wouldn't get shot if "Chief O' Hara" asks me to bust an AMP vs raid a drug dealers house ,but that is not the obvious issue here.
Can't you sleep better knowing the streets are safer after "Pat" and Others' got busted from that recent sting while there are those like that "cancer" out there selling drugs out of his ill handicapped mom's home.
Donna Hughes
12-15-09, 20:44
Note the recent raids were Rhode Island State Police Action.
It is not certain, but State Police are less likely to be out and conducting investigations in Providence. (Too likely to step on some brother officer's friends). State Police tend to stay away from larger cities that have their own detective squads so, I suspect, Providence will be off the State Police radar for the present.State Police and Providence Police aren't likely to work together on AMP raids. They can't even drink together in the Union Hall with out getting into fist fights with each other. LOL
And it was a Providence Cop that told me that the PPD was not interested in the AMPs.
State police are involved in PPD busts quite often, based on my observations of Elmwood. They will likely be called in to support PPD. Both agencies will view street providers (correctly, sorry to say) and their customers as extensions of the drug trade, which they hold responsible for the officer shootings. I would treat the streets with considerable caution.
However, you posted this in the MP section, and from that perspective you may be correct.
Note the recent raids were Rhode Island State Police Action.
It is not certain, but State Police are less likely to be out and conducting investigations in Providence. (Too likely to step on some brother officer's friends). State Police tend to stay away from larger cities that have their own detective squads so, I suspect, Providence will be off the State Police radar for the present.
Additionally, 3 Providence detectives were shot and injured in the line of duty today. That means their effective presence is reduced by at least 30%, and they will be distracted for the foreseeable future reigning down terror on anyone remotely connected to the shooting of those detectives.
I would suggest that Providence will not be a hot bed of LEO activity around the hobby for at least the next 3-6 months.
Note the recent raids were Rhode Island State Police Action.
It is not certain, but State Police are less likely to be out and conducting investigations in Providence. (Too likely to step on some brother officer's friends). State Police tend to stay away from larger cities that have their own detective squads so, I suspect, Providence will be off the State Police radar for the present.
Additionally, 3 Providence detectives were shot and injured in the line of duty today. That means their effective presence is reduced by at least 30%, and they will be distracted for the foreseeable future reigning down terror on anyone remotely connected to the shooting of those detectives.
I would suggest that Providence will not be a hot bed of LEO activity around the hobby for at least the next 3-6 months.
Be good.
I can't believe you're on the verge of "gloating" that your sexual activities are safer because three Providence detectives where shot today.
No further comment!
Note the recent raids were Rhode Island State Police Action.
It is not certain, but State Police are less likely to be out and conducting investigations in Providence. (Too likely to step on some brother officer's friends). State Police tend to stay away from larger cities that have their own detective squads so, I suspect, Providence will be off the State Police radar for the present.
Additionally, 3 Providence detectives were shot and injured in the line of duty today. That means their effective presence is reduced by at least 30%, and they will be distracted for the foreseeable future reigning down terror on anyone remotely connected to the shooting of those detectives.
I would suggest that Providence will not be a hot bed of LEO activity around the hobby for at least the next 3-6 months.
Be good.
If anything "ALL" the police you encounter in the area are going to be extremely cautious. They all had a rude reminder of how vulnerable they are and will not be taking chances. If there is a raid, expect to be treated as if you were an armed felon until proven otherwise.
Ampdude 2003
12-16-09, 08:45
I wanted to put a general inquiry out there of anyone who can offer additional "landscape" information, i.e. name of mamasan, any protocol stuff specific to Bali, name of masseuse or, more specfically, name of masseuse described with "DD" cans.
Anyone responding can PM me of course. Thanks in advance.
Short report,
First visit ever to Bali, been months since I've sen the inside of an RI AMP. Drew Pepsi, tall slender, 29 yo K girl, wearing a bikini, big really firm C size store boughts, very long hair, nice make-up, painted eye lashes...generally stunning. 5 minute sauna, complete TS with repeated scrubbing of my dirtiest parts. Massage, first she drops the bikini, climbs on my back, gives a few dozen well placed pushes here and there, a little rubbing, next thing I know she dragging her nips and hair along my back followed soon by a "near" rim job, taint licking...you get the picture. I roll over. light kissing, light licks on and all around the flag pole, 69, cover on and we are off. Tight, slippery and welcoming, several key and favorite positions and we are done. She has nips almost the same size as the my little finger from the last nuckle on, OMG. About 50 minutes total, including waiting. Money was never mentioned, ever. I offered $60 after I undressed and left a common and apparently acceptable tip after I got dressed. Want to know anything more send a PM. Saw at least 4 other girls, all shorter, generally young, generally pretty, stroll by the sauna which has a beveled/leaded glass door that you can kinda sorta see out through, barely! One was at least a double D that looked real, don't see that very often.
ARG
AsianLPGAfan
12-16-09, 11:07
I can't believe you're on the verge of "gloating" that your sexual activities are safer because three Providence detectives where shot today.
No further comment!Hate to read anytime a police officer gets shot or injured in line of duty. It shows how dangerous their jobs are and what the real dangers out in the world are.
In the big scheme of things the recent "Pat" sting pales in comparison to the serious nature of that drug bust.
Hopefully resources of LE are used responsibly in the direction of public safety rather than making political statements or views made across.
Member #6770
12-17-09, 13:26
OK, I didn't see him, but heard him talking to MS. I was enjoying my time, post flip, heard a Caucasian man, talking louder than a monger. What I heard was, him yelling at MS to get rid of cooking materials. He said, "they are looking for these things, get it out of here!".
Otherwise things didn't seem out of normal at this AMP.
Ampdude 2003
12-17-09, 15:12
I sent a report looking for info prior to my visit, and well, I visited.
To preface, I am new to Bali (formerly ABC Spa). Things started off well - nice greeting by mama, in fact I uncharacteristically asked for a line-up because I was perusing for a "DD" girl sighting as previously reported. I saw 5-6 girls (one of which was Pepsi as reported) and I would say all girls were at least 7 of 10 in the looks department. I did not see the girl I was looking for, so told mama she was not there and let mama select for me.
I was assigned Sue, 5'4", brownish hair just below the shoulder length, pleasant face and average body - posture not that great and did appear to have natural B cans. Decent body overall but not killer curves.
The TS was fantastic - nice chit-chatt, much better-than-average TS experience with attention to the right places. I don't usually comment on this so a cut above the normal experience. Spent a couple of minutes in the Sauna. Still friendly and good repore and back to the room. This is where things go down quickly.
She asked when was the last time I was there. I mentioned a couple of weeks ago. She asked for names and at this point I should have said "I forget the name" as I had no names to throw around. I mentioned that I know "Pepsi", thinking the fact that I knew a girl straight off would be good enough. She challenged me and mentioned that Pepsi was not here two weeks ago, just arrived. I can think of a few answers that were better than the one I gave, and knew I was raising doubt. Anyway I could tell she was not comfortable, and she indeed left the room for a moment prior to the massage to either verify with Pepsi or speak to mama.
The bottom line is when she got back things changed. She was on red-alert and no matter what I said there was no shaking off the suspicion of this girl. She gave me a towel-covered off the table massage on back and legs that was sub-standard. She cornered the towel to briefly rub each butt check, only to corner the towel back when complete - purely professional. I would say 15 minutes later there was a passing knock on the door and a speak of Korean and the massage was over.
I was pissed inside. I knew it was over prior to the massage when this girl reentered the room. I tried to give and suggest tell-tail signs but the girl would not have any of it - "I no speakee english" - there was no debate. This was THE most creepy experience I've had and was a clear result of paranoia which I escalated because of poor attempt to defuse any newbie Q&A as part of their standard protocol.
Once the massage was over I hopped up, got dressed quickly and absolutely no tip.
I know many of you have had or will have a much better experience than I, and I will be the first to admit I screwed up, but this totally s*cked. Man was I pissed - complete waste of $60.
I immediately drove to FE and had familiarity - mamasan, Yuri, great experience, etc. Look for prior reports on Yuri.
Take care out there.
AsianLPGAfan
12-17-09, 16:56
[QUOTE=Ampdude 2003]I sent a report looking for info prior to my visit, and well, I visited.
Wow. Mate Got caught off the guard. I am far from that slick dude on the Dos' beer commercials."Be thirsty my friends"
I was asked that at DT said I m not sure if that gal's name was Gigi or if she was the gal from Lilly's to look convincing.
Lilly's Spa Providence, RI
Has anybody seen or heard the whereabouts of Bin Laden's GF.
Jesus Christ you guys, you might think she is his GF, know one comments about this girl or this report. I know somebody knows, She's was the hottest korean on the planet in everyway
Anybody know where Lisa went? Is she at another AMP? She left the Last week of October or Early November. Korean, age 28-32, thin 5'6 110lbs Brown hair. She wears a gold crucifix all the time, very attractive and spoke good English.
RickNo one wants to help you, because you have never contributed anything of any worth to this forum. In everyone of your posts you are either asking where this girl went or trying to undermine another member's post, who actually took the time to contribute some useful information that helps everyone, not just themselves. Stop being so selfish. Get out there, track her down yourself and TELL US where she is (so we can go throw ropes at her). If you can't man up and help yourself, due to your fear of uncle LEO, then stop your whining and get out of the game.
Uncle Tug signing out.
Member #4868
12-18-09, 15:38
Ric
We get it . You really like Lisa.
I had a feeling that you liked her based on your ISO post on 12/5/09
I knew you liked her based on you ISO post dated 12/8/09
I thought you may actually more than like her based on your ISO post dated 12/15/09
I worry about your obsession based on a yet another ISO post dated 12/18/09
My advice is to do some old fashioned legwork. Make a list and hit every spa in RI until you find her. Please report back with your results.
Happy Holidays
pwh
Lilly's Spa Providence, RI
Has anybody seen or heard the whereabouts of Bin Laden's GF.
Jesus Christ you guys, you might think she is his GF, know one comments about this girl or this report. I know somebody knows, She's was the hottest korean on the planet in everyway
Anybody know where Lisa went? Is she at another AMP? She left the Last week of October or Early November. Korean, age 28-32, thin 5'6 110lbs Brown hair. She wears a gold crucifix all the time, very attractive and spoke good English.
Rick
Badlarry76
12-18-09, 18:25
Visited one of my favs in Prov Thursday. Had a good time, but it was much busier than any time I've ever been. I found it a little tough to relax completely with the door chimes jingling every 5-10 minutes. Mamasan seemed overwhelmed. I'm sure they had to turn people away. Would have been a 5 star experience if I wasn't convinced every time I heard the chimes my door was going to fly open and my massage would be rudely interrupted. I guess you shouldn't step into the batter's box thinking you're going to get beaned. Good luck.
AsianLPGAfan
12-18-09, 18:48
Ric
We get it . You really like Lisa.
I had a feeling that you liked her based on your ISO post on 12/5/09
I knew you liked her based on you ISO post dated 12/8/09
I thought you may actually more than like her based on your ISO post dated 12/15/09
I worry about your obsession based on a yet another ISO post dated 12/18/09
My advice is to do some old fashioned legwork. Make a list and hit every spa in RI until you find her. Please report back with your results.
Happy Holidays,
pwhThe downside is once in awhile each of us finds our own fav but the truth is it is only time before she moves on to where life and circumstances take her.
Riclagriclag
12-19-09, 00:55
No one wants to help you, because you have never contributed anything of any worth to this forum. In everyone of your posts you are either asking where this girl went or trying to undermine another member's post, who actually took the time to contribute some useful information that helps everyone, not just themselves. Stop being so selfish. Get out there, track her down yourself and TELL US where she is (so we can go throw ropes at her). If you can't man up and help yourself, due to your fear of uncle LEO, then stop your whining and get out of the game.
Uncle Tug signing out.If I knew where she was, do you think I would be asking. The only girl that spun my wheels is her. Been to Lilly's 9 or 10 times Whats to contribute thats the only lonely one I've been with. Jesus Christ what details should I contribute. Is there anything that you haven't allready heard in these forums ie: 7/9, $$$, 60/40, flip, ts, HJ, payed attention to the right spots, flat ass korean, new, tug, hard, soft. What else should I contribute? If anybody cares to read all my posts actually your right they don't share much in the way of reviews, because I wish not to talk about a old man finding some happiness in his life, after been beaten down for 35 years. Yeah! I feel much better. Its true I have given my opinion on other peoples post. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even you.
Rick
Member #4868
12-19-09, 20:33
Ric
I stand by my last post on this subject, but would like to add/help since it is the season to give.
Tug is right that most here will not jump thru hoops to help you as you have, sorry here, given nothing.
You admit that Lisa is your fav and yet you have not posted a review.
Your explanation is that she has been reviewed and you have nothing to add.
I disagree for three reasons:
1) All reviews are important, even if redundant simply to keep a current performance status( sometimes providers get better, sometimes worse)
2) Reviews get you respect on the board. I can not speak for others, but when I see a guy that gives nothing and always asks for info, well Homey don't play that game.
3) Your reviews do not have to be novels. It can be as simple as " I saw Lisa today and she is a 9 in looks and rocked my world"
I have read your posts and it seems that you are finding the hobby a good experience. Hopefully it helps with the "beaten down for 35 yrs"
And if you do not find Lisa, I am sure you will find someone else if you keep an open mind ( I know I have !!!LOL)
If you do please tell us about her. It will go a long way.
Happy Holidays ( This time sincere)
pwh
If I knew where she was, do you think I would be asking. The only girl that spun my wheels is her. Been to Lilly's 9 or 10 times Whats to contribute thats the only lonely one I've been with. Jesus Christ what details should I contribute. Is there anything that you haven't allready heard in these forums ie: 7/9, $$$, 60/40, flip, ts, HJ, payed attention to the right spots, flat ass korean, new, tug, hard, soft. What else should I contribute? If anybody cares to read all my posts actually your right they don't share much in the way of reviews, because I wish not to talk about a old man finding some happiness in his life, after been beaten down for 35 years. Yeah! I feel much better. Its true I have given my opinion on other peoples post. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even you.
Rick
If I knew where she was, do you think I would be asking. The only girl that spun my wheels is her. Been to Lilly's 9 or 10 times Whats to contribute thats the only lonely one I've been with. Jesus Christ what details should I contribute. Is there anything that you haven't allready heard in these forums ie: 7/9, $$$, 60/40, flip, ts, HJ, payed attention to the right spots, flat ass korean, new, tug, hard, soft. What else should I contribute? If anybody cares to read all my posts actually your right they don't share much in the way of reviews, because I wish not to talk about a old man finding some happiness in his life, after been beaten down for 35 years. Yeah! I feel much better. Its true I have given my opinion on other peoples post. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, even you.
RickI apologize Rick, maybe I was a little harsh in my last post. Mr. Herman is right, this is the season of giving. I didn't realize how emotional this was for you.
Unfortunately, the girls in these places come and go rapidly. She could be at another spa in town or across the country, or even half way around the world by now. I'd suggest talking to Mama or other girls at Lilly's that may remember her, perhaps they have some info they may be willing to share. However, this is probably a long shot.
Your best bet is to get out there, try some new places and hopefully find someone new that you like. I'd also suggest not getting too attached to any of them because you'll just keep getting disappointed when they get rotated out. Good luck and report back to us with your findings.
Happy Holidays,
Uncle Tug
Running the risk, I was like ET last Friday: driving down Atwells I was drawn back toward One like a magnet. ET phone home.
My old flame Kay (aka Hana from Central Health) greeted me at the second door. I admitted right away I was nervous as Hell and didn't even want to stay. "No pob'bum. No pob'bum. Come een'sigh."
Bizness as usual, but I dead-bolted the door myself.
Small info: seems they are a few gals down from the usual 8 or 9; she told me there were 4 with clients and two free, including her. I had a peek at the other one but stuck with Kay coz we knew each other and I was a bit short on the "massage" fee. Kay was cool.
Really nerve-racking, however. Thanks Leo. j
Riclagriclag
12-22-09, 15:49
Requested Jennifer Chinese. Face ok, Braces, late 20's, features are like a goddess statue. Very nice to talk to and be with great ts and massage. My opinion.
Rick
DaddysLookin
12-22-09, 16:17
Got the call from my regular as she left the airport, away til the 28th...SO..took a ride to PVD.
I hit CH for a change, two rings and the place is dead, seems like a RIP situation.
Took a ride over to Wansuck (?). Real hag at the door scared me.
Then onto Lilly's, yes, I know, R&T, but it is Christmas and WHO has a ton of extra cash?
Drew Jay. I remembered she had been panned on here, but was Ok with me. Tiny Korean who is not all that pretty. She told me things were dead.
Went through the hoops and all came out well for the usual expense.
I did get the distinct impression that there was ZERO fear of any problems there, just business as usual!
They are open Christmas Day! HO-ho-ho!
Member #4868
12-22-09, 23:28
Thanks for the report Ric, as there has not been a report on SF in a bit
Keep it up , and hope you find a replacement for Lisa ( if you can not find her)
Requested Jennifer Chinese. Face ok, Braces, late 20's, features are like a goddess statue. Very nice to talk to and be with great ts and massage. My opinion.
Rick
MuffyTheDiver
12-23-09, 07:42
My dream at the 1021 club! Wanted to get some fun in before the holiday but still nervous as heck with the new laws and the potential of being parraded out in shackles I planned my assualt! Parked next street over and dashed around looking like John Bilushi in Animal House sneaking around in the night so I would not be seen :') This by far was the most strange visit I have ever had!
Rang the side door bell, and waited for what seemed like an eternity with all the neighbors eyes sneaking a peek through the blinds! No answer! OK, I am not one who easily gives in and Mr. Small head was taking over the thought process, I fwalk around front and up the stairs. Get to the door and yound Mamasan opens the door. Lets me in and immediately starts the interrogation with the hot lamp! Hve you been here before (yes) who did you see (Connie) How long ago (2 weeks). She immediately gives me the stare like you would give a little kid trying to pass a lie. Only problem was that I was there two weeks ago and did see Connie! She insisted there was no Connie there two weeks ago and asked for a description of the girl. Gees these how do you describe a korean girl with long black hair.....
Well anyways after a few minutes she says Ok and brings me into room without taking the fee and says be right back. Now I am thinking this sucks they think I am LE! She comes back and asks again who I saw and I am sticking to my story cause it was true. She ends up taking the house fee and says undress she would be right back.
Off to the shower next which was uneventful, very light touching around my buddy but not the usual. Keep in mind this is being done by young mamasan who was not bad at all so I let it go on. Nest back to the room, lay down and she drapes a towel over me which at first was fine becasue I was cold. Afte a bit of massage, I ask to have towel removed which she does. She then continues massage for about 20-25 minutes which was a very good hard massage which I like.
Now comes more of the weird, she starts the soft touch, and does spend a little time around the butt and taint but nothing to speak of. All the time I am trying to do things to let her know I am OK. Finnaly the flip and I immediately see the opportunity to reach and caress her boob under the bra which she allows. Now I think show is on again! As she is stroking my buddy she says you want HJ? No Hun I want everything! She looks kinda weird and says be right back. A few mintues go by and I can hear her outside the door talking on phone. Next she comes in still talking Korean on phone to another woman. This continues for a few minutes while she is stroking my pal. Finally she says to me she is busy and she would bring another girl in.
Well, here I am with a hard on and her comes the switcharoo. Girl comes in and she is OK average looking very small and no tits to speak of. Again I am OK with this because I like this kind of body type. She then tells me to turn over and strips down and climbs on giving me a body to body rub.
After a bit she starts the soft touch and does a good RIM for a bit. Roll over and on to the main event which was very good, she was very tight and took everything I could throw at her with a smile and a great act. Finish up and she cleans me up, next thing I know she says turn over and begins another massage! She gives the full massage both sides for another 30-35 mintues!
After massage she begins to get me ready for dress, but after the massage I am freaking horny again! So playfully I start rubbing her in the right spots. She immediately responds with "I am so wet" and takes my hand down to this soaked little patch. By now I am out of my mind thinking round#2 begin, after some foreplay and rubbing my buddy on her wet patch from behind as I sit and she stands in front of me Mamasan knocks and says something in Korean and my dream ends abruptly!
Oh well, almost went down in the history books.
I will gladly gve any proven senoir members the details in a PM.
Also if you are thinking you will get a "One" type beauty at this place move on. These girls are average at best, but I find the performance is much better, kinda the ugly duckling or fat girl theory!
I visited North Main Street Spa recently, (one of many visits) and again had Julie. She appears to be the most popular girl there, and it is no surprise why. She is attractive, nice rack for an asian who usually have little up top, and very accommodating, considering the constraints of NMS management (meaning rub & tug only.
Her TS was great, paying lots of attention to the boys.
We got back to the room and I got her to lift her blouse so I could play with and kiss her beautiful breasts. Some kissing and hugging, and then the massage.
I like a light touch with lots of teasing, and Julie accommodates my preference perfectly. She also likes to use her breasts as part of the massaging, and they feel great.
After some initial massaging on the back, she gets onto the table so she can concentrate on the boys and her touch is absolutely great. There is some licking down there as well.
At the flip, I like to get off the table, raise her blouse for some more licking and kissing. This time, I was also able to do some kissing down at the Y as well.
Resuming the massage while on my back, she proceeds to a fantastic HE using her hands and her breasts. What a finish.
After that, a nice clean up, and she finishes the massage. She usually runs a little over the one hour.
She likes to help me get dressed, some hugs and kisses, and I am out the door.
House fee is $60. I usually tip her $60-80, depending on how much over and above I feel she has gone. This time, I was almost tempted to give her $100, but I do not want to set the bar too high for future visits, nor do I want to set it higher for other mongers who come her way.
NMS has recently brought in more younger girls. They used to have older ones. Maybe the competition from Lilly's where all the girls are young caused this.
Red Rooster
12-25-09, 03:34
My first actual post on here although I read occassionally. The information has led me to a few encounters so I hope to return the favor shortly. I may be in the state this Saturday evening. I haven't decided which place to visit yet. The situation is all very confusing right now! I just know that it will be tough to wait for another opportunity.
Best,
Bighorn696
12-27-09, 00:32
I see the RI forum is still quite descriptive in their story-telling. I am from the CT forum which for years had the same level of openess. That has mostly changed now (tho we occassionally still get gems from newbies who put it all out there in b&w...)
We never had the heady experience with the favorable laws as you do in RI, so maybe we have been a bit more wary to begin with. But now that your laws have changed, I would simply recommend using a bit more discretion going forward.
Using less detail (or just declaring the story fiction if you can not resist the urge to share details) helps keep LE and snooping reporters needing more to go on. Share establishment name, girls names and rate their service, face and body with a 1-10 score. I think we can then draw our own conclusions from there. Any more detail than that should only be shared in pvt msgs between trusted members.
Of course I'm not telling my RI friends what to do or say, just a friendly suggestion so you won't lose what precious little freedom we have left in RI.
VilunyaChert
12-27-09, 08:14
Using less detail (or just declaring the story fiction if you can not resist the urge to share details) helps keep LE and snooping reporters needing more to go on.
With respect, Bighorn696, "just declaring the story fiction" is entirely lame, and does nothing to "keep LE and snooping reporters needing more to go on". As Jackson repeatedly and correctly points out, there's no evidentiary value to *anything* posted here, however it is labeled or not labeled; all LE or reporters can get from here is leads, and a lead is a lead whether it's declared fiction or gospel truth.
Share establishment name, girls names and rate their service, face and body with a 1-10 score. I think we can then draw our own conclusions from there. Any more detail than that should only be shared in pvt msgs between trusted members.
That makes more sense, superficially, but -- again, as Jackson points out -- LE already knows about all the sex work going down on their territory, 99.44% or more of the time.
Martin Dobro
12-28-09, 08:34
With respect, Bighorn696, "just declaring the story fiction" is entirely lame, and does nothing to "keep LE and snooping reporters needing more to go on". As Jackson repeatedly and correctly points out, there's no evidentiary value to *anything* posted here, however it is labeled or not labeled; all LE or reporters can get from here is leads, and a lead is a lead whether it's declared fiction or gospel truth.
Totally agree. This applies both to the "I had a dream" school of writing and to the practice of hiding details behind acronyms, abbreviations, or whatever. Consider that for LE it is their *job* to figure this stuff out.
If you need to go entirely underground, then use only PMs (and phones, and text messages) to exchange information. This is already the rule in a lot of states. Discretion does not mean "using abbreviations," it means "not saying it in public." This site is public. Make of that what you will.
If you think you're able to hide information in plain sight on a public board by labeling it with kiddie tricks, you're wrong.
DaddysLookin
12-28-09, 19:16
I had some free time late in the afternoon and thought I would visit a new place I saw on CL, as follows:
Professional Soothing Chinese Massage and Bodywork (new open) (Providence)
Welcome to enjoy a professional Chinese massage, to relax, soothe and rejuvenate in the cleanest, most tranquil and peaceful surroundings. Here, you can enjoy the very best full body Chinese massage, acupressure, Qi Gong Tui-Na and foot reflexology. Friendly caring service to reduce your anxiety, tension, stress and muscle pain, restore energy and for your body and mind relaxation. For men, women and couples by our skilled professional therapists. Please call by appointment: 1-401-338-0345
Location: 422 L (lower level) Broadway, Providence, 02953 RI
Easy enough to find and I rang the buzzer to be let in the by the 40 something mama (?). I had no interest in her.
I ask for the line up and am told she would take good care of me.... Not likely.
She asks what I am looking for and I am blunt, a younger girl and she laughs and tells me that they do not have younger girls.
I tell her I will leave then and perhaps return some other time. She tells me not to come back because they never have younger girls. Essentially, do not let the door whack your ass on the way out... LOL. She's got spunk, I will give her that!
Ah well, another one bits the dust.
Visited Sun Flower and was sad to learn that Jennifer of braces fame was on vacation.
Always remember rule #1. If the situation does not appeal to you who hold the dead presidents, take a walk for a better situation.
Existierende
12-29-09, 17:15
Has anyone had a massage with Chelsea? The one that used to work in Newport (I think), and is now in Providence. She advertised on CL/BP until the law changed. Offered four-handed with Alicia. Two times I set up appointments with her, and twice she stood me up. You'd think I'd learn to stay away, but it's hard to find a non-Asian masseuse, much less an independent. I figure that if her work is good, I'll try making an appointment again. Any info, PM or otherwise, is appreciated.
Etonrifles
12-29-09, 21:16
Exist, she stood me up this past weekend as well. I used to see her when she was in the Newport area but it seems she works when she feels like it.
Martin Dobro
12-30-09, 08:52
Went to Lily later than I usually do last night, getting there at around 10pm. There was an unmarked utility van in the lot that set off my radar. No obvious signs of LE about it - but other than the ladders tied to the roof rack, there were no commercial markers either. My favorite parking spot was available, nestled into the place where the fence cuts back.
Mama recognized me and we chatted. Business is slow slow slow - but she's in good spirits. I drew Coco, who just got to Providence two days ago. Awesome pressure point massage that really worked. She was wearing a cute little white dress.
When I stepped out the door around 11:15, I immediately saw flashing lights. Three Providence cruisers were stopped, lights on, in the parking lot. There were three other cars with no police markings scattered around the lot with the drivers still in them. I tried to be as cool as I could, walking to my car and firing it up. When I started the car, I realized that between the van and one of the unmarked vehicles, I was actually stuck back there. Fortunately, the driver of that other vehicle was still in it, and he moved forward just enough to let me out.
One of the officers was out of his vehicle, talking to the driver of one of the non police cruisers. The others seemed to be working on paperwork or their computers. I have no idea if the drivers of the non-police cars were LEO or something else. I was pretty focused on getting out of there.
I went as slow as seemed reasonable, idling to the road - last thing I want is to "flee," or "resist." The officers never even seemed to look up or check me out. Of course, if they want my plate number, they already have it. In fact, if they want me on cruiser-cam coming out of the place - they already have that too. Though, as discussed, there are some inconveniently placed traffic cameras in PVD.
Could have been an ordinary traffic stop. They could use that lot as a convenient staging point for other LEO business. I've seen a crossing guard set up shop in that lot on weekday afternoons. Could be intimidation. Whatever it was, it spooked me pretty bad.
Stay safe out there. If your instincts get triggered, trust them.
.......Could have been an ordinary traffic stop. They could use that lot as a convenient staging point for other LEO business. I've seen a crossing guard set up shop in that lot on weekday afternoons. Could be intimidation. Whatever it was, it spooked me pretty bad.
Stay safe out there. If your instincts get triggered, trust them.
I would think it was just an ordinary traffic stop or even more, maybe a drug stop. I don't think it had anything to do with Lily's.
Just an aside, I just got on Google Maps and went to street view. Curiously when the Google camera truck went past the parking lot, they got a shot of some poor schlub coming out of Lily's!! Luckily the pictures aren't sharp enough to see who it was. Then, going the opposite way up the street there was another guy (fuzzy again) walking from his Subaru station wagon!
Imagine if the pictures were not fuzzy, and these two guys spend the rest of Google-posterity entering and exiting an AMP!
Stressed Out
12-30-09, 12:15
Went to Lily later than I usually do last night, getting there at around 10pm. There was an unmarked utility van in the lot that set off my radar. No obvious signs of LE about it - but other than the ladders tied to the roof rack, there were no commercial markers either. My favorite parking spot was available, nestled into the place where the fence cuts back.
Mama recognized me and we chatted. Business is slow slow slow - but she's in good spirits. I drew Coco, who just got to Providence two days ago. Awesome pressure point massage that really worked. She was wearing a cute little white dress.
When I stepped out the door around 11:15, I immediately saw flashing lights. Three Providence cruisers were stopped, lights on, in the parking lot. There were three other cars with no police markings scattered around the lot with the drivers still in them. I tried to be as cool as I could, walking to my car and firing it up. When I started the car, I realized that between the van and one of the unmarked vehicles, I was actually stuck back there. Fortunately, the driver of that other vehicle was still in it, and he moved forward just enough to let me out.
One of the officers was out of his vehicle, talking to the driver of one of the non police cruisers. The others seemed to be working on paperwork or their computers. I have no idea if the drivers of the non-police cars were LEO or something else. I was pretty focused on getting out of there.
I went as slow as seemed reasonable, idling to the road - last thing I want is to "flee," or "resist." The officers never even seemed to look up or check me out. Of course, if they want my plate number, they already have it. In fact, if they want me on cruiser-cam coming out of the place - they already have that too. Though, as discussed, there are some inconveniently placed traffic cameras in PVD.
Could have been an ordinary traffic stop. They could use that lot as a convenient staging point for other LEO business. I've seen a crossing guard set up shop in that lot on weekday afternoons. Could be intimidation. Whatever it was, it spooked me pretty bad.
Stay safe out there. If your instincts get triggered, trust them.
If i were to guess (and I've been known to be wrong!) that it was just a traffic stop area. That intersection is ripe for running red lights, speeding ect. If they were interested in Lily's I would guess that they would have at least talked to you and dissuaded you from going there again. And I'm willing to bet that Lily's is the last place that they would turn their attention to. But as you said be aware everyone. While I've read with interest all the reports that PPD is not interested in hassling the amps one would think that something other than a few hotel arrests would occur even if they are as shorthanded as it seems.
Then again as reported in ProJo the amount of sales tax and room revenue has dropped through the floor so they may be aware that that may come back to bite them. SO
Stressed Out
12-30-09, 12:22
My dream at the 1021 club! Wanted to get some fun in before the holiday but still nervous as heck with the new laws and the potential of being parraded out in shackles I planned my assualt! Parked next street over and dashed around looking like John Bilushi in Animal House sneaking around in the night so I would not be seen :') This by far was the most strange visit I have ever had!
Rang the side door bell, and waited for what seemed like an eternity with all the neighbors eyes sneaking a peek through the blinds! No answer! OK, I am not one who easily gives in and Mr. Small head was taking over the thought process, I fwalk around front and up the stairs. Get to the door and yound Mamasan opens the door. Lets me in and immediately starts the interrogation with the hot lamp! Hve you been here before (yes) who did you see (Connie) How long ago (2 weeks). She immediately gives me the stare like you would give a little kid trying to pass a lie. Only problem was that I was there two weeks ago and did see Connie! She insisted there was no Connie there two weeks ago and asked for a description of the girl. Gees these how do you describe a korean girl with long black hair.....
Well anyways after a few minutes she says Ok and brings me into room without taking the fee and says be right back. Now I am thinking this sucks they think I am LE! She comes back and asks again who I saw and I am sticking to my story cause it was true. She ends up taking the house fee and says undress she would be right back.
Off to the shower next which was uneventful, very light touching around my buddy but not the usual. Keep in mind this is being done by young mamasan who was not bad at all so I let it go on. Nest back to the room, lay down and she drapes a towel over me which at first was fine becasue I was cold. Afte a bit of massage, I ask to have towel removed which she does. She then continues massage for about 20-25 minutes which was a very good hard massage which I like.
Now comes more of the weird, she starts the soft touch, and does spend a little time around the butt and taint but nothing to speak of. All the time I am trying to do things to let her know I am OK. Finnaly the flip and I immediately see the opportunity to reach and caress her boob under the bra which she allows. Now I think show is on again! As she is stroking my buddy she says you want HJ? No Hun I want everything! She looks kinda weird and says be right back. A few mintues go by and I can hear her outside the door talking on phone. Next she comes in still talking Korean on phone to another woman. This continues for a few minutes while she is stroking my pal. Finally she says to me she is busy and she would bring another girl in.
Well, here I am with a hard on and her comes the switcharoo. Girl comes in and she is OK average looking very small and no tits to speak of. Again I am OK with this because I like this kind of body type. She then tells me to turn over and strips down and climbs on giving me a body to body rub.
After a bit she starts the soft touch and does a good RIM for a bit. Roll over and on to the main event which was very good, she was very tight and took everything I could throw at her with a smile and a great act. Finish up and she cleans me up, next thing I know she says turn over and begins another massage! She gives the full massage both sides for another 30-35 mintues!
After massage she begins to get me ready for dress, but after the massage I am freaking horny again! So playfully I start rubbing her in the right spots. She immediately responds with "I am so wet" and takes my hand down to this soaked little patch. By now I am out of my mind thinking round#2 begin, after some foreplay and rubbing my buddy on her wet patch from behind as I sit and she stands in front of me Mamasan knocks and says something in Korean and my dream ends abruptly!
Oh well, almost went down in the history books.
I will gladly gve any proven senoir members the details in a PM.
Also if you are thinking you will get a "One" type beauty at this place move on. These girls are average at best, but I find the performance is much better, kinda the ugly duckling or fat girl theory!
Thanks for reminding us that 1021 still exists. I don'rt think that i've heard anything about it since the famous 'body slide' disappeared! Again I haven't been there in ages but if you got hannah (if she is still the mama) then that is the reason she got someone else. While our friend Tony has been lucky enough to have enjoyed Hannah (I'm going from memory which could be wrong-sorry Tony) she typically doesn't (didn't) do many of the massages. Also from what was reported here from someone (again memory) they aren't concerned there since they are very accepted in the neighborhood. SO
AsianLPGAfan
12-30-09, 22:36
[QUOTE=Stressed Out]If I were to guess (and I've been known to be wrong!) that it was just a traffic stop area. That intersection is ripe for running red lights. Etc
Wow how things have changed.
The drug store parking lot seemed to be that hang out spot then.
I can't even count the times I didn't blink seeing LE across the street or in the Walgreens Parking lot in the past.
Man I would need another massage to relax me from the stress of that close encounter but our "brother" didn't break any law walking out of an AMP.
Maybe the gals at Lilly's will need to bring out coffee and donuts if the trend continues?
Little Tony II
12-30-09, 23:51
Thanks for reminding us that 1021 still exists. I don'rt think that i've heard anything about it since the famous 'body slide' disappeared! Again I haven't been there in ages but if you got hannah (if she is still the mama) then that is the reason she got someone else. While our friend Tony has been lucky enough to have enjoyed Hannah (I'm going from memory which could be wrong-sorry Tony) she typically doesn't (didn't) do many of the massages. Also from what was reported here from someone (again memory) they aren't concerned there since they are very accepted in the neighborhood. SO
Hi SO & guys... Although I have not posted much lately, I have been around. 1021 is still open and although the talent is still not great, they still provide a decent FS visit. Sounds like they are being more cautious now.
The past few weeks, each time I visited, I was the only guy there! The current group know me so I do not have to prove I am not LE.
Everyone there now has a white smok on to look more professional!!!
Yes, There is a girl there named Hanna, not the mama Hanna we knew. She is just ok. None of the present talent is memorable.
Fond memories..... Cc, Yung, Suzie, Pink, & mama Hanna.....
Remember I used to say..."tell Hanna Tony sent me" The more guys that said that, the more time and less clothes I would get with Hanna!! It was great. Several guys said it...
I am sure there will be some kind of raid - roundup at one of the Amps after the first of the year, ?? We will have to keep rolling the dice.
Have fun :)
Tony
I think tomorrow (1/1/10) would be a good day to go get a massage in RI. The chance they will do a sting on a holiday (cops get paid ot on holidays) is slim, plus alot of cops work new years eve night to keep peace and less work new years day am. So I might come down & give it a try. If I do I will give a report on it.
Everyone have a safe & happy new year.
I see that no one has posted since my last post. I am going to guess that there will be alot of posts later. First let me start by saying that One spa tries very hard to make sure no customers see each other. When I arrived around 2 I take the elavator up and when I get out and reach the 1st door that says one on it I found it locked. At 1st I was upset as I thought they were closed and I drove from Boston for nothing. But as I looked through the glass in the door I could see a guy sitting in the hall. About a minute later the mama came out a put me in the stairway so someone else could leave. She told me to stay and she will let me in soon. About 5 min later she comes out and brings me into the 1st door. I wait there for 3-4 minutes until the guy in front of me gets a room. At that point she moves me inside and I wait next to the window & the peppermints. While I am waiting Kitty stops by and says hi along with a tall smoking girl that I did not get her name. Now after a fews more minutes Michelle (another smoker) takes my hand and brings me into a very small room. I get undress and then K (she says just k not kay) comes in and asked if it alright that she do me. Now I would have rather have Michelle, but I don't like to make any trouble. I say ok and she bring me & my towel into room A because she did not like the little one. Now I have to say Michelle looked better in her bikini and in the looks department so I was bummed at first going with K. However she was great. Started with the ts, she was up on the table washing everything, spending extra extra time on the goods. Very soapy with lots of rubbing. I would not call it a body slide but she was all over everything. Back to the room she dried me off and I got on the table. She left for a couple of minutes and came back with her supplies. At that time she asked what I wanted. I told her everything. She asked for the normal price, & I said yes. She than took off her bikini got on the table and gave an ok massage using hand, feet, knees, and her whole body. Another thing I must say is that there is not much to imagne with what the girls wear, but when she took off the bikini her body was extra hot. Slim, small tits with fat nipples, belly ring and a tat on her back below her neck. Well after that all positions were done along with daty. She uses her tounge alot licking EVERYWHERE. When we were done she gave good cleanup. Next time I go I will ask for her. There seemed to be alot of guys there today so we should see more posts.
Looks 7
Body 9
Ts 10
Massage 6
Fs 10
Regualr price, you know what it is.
Made my first visit today to start off the New Year. All the girls I saw, at least four, were exceptionally friendly and attractive. After a few minutes Kitty came into the room. Fairly good English, great personality and service for the usual donation of $60/$140. Left a very happy man. Was also impressed with the cleanliness of the spa. Will definitely return.
Joe Absolute
01-01-10, 22:57
I tried kitty 3 weeks ago. She told me her favorite position was downward doggy. One of the best providers I had she aims to please
petite, cute with nice bolts
AsianLPGAfan
01-02-10, 13:36
Rito, maybe great minds think alike? I had a similar game plan.
Post New Years Eve visit to AMP. I m not a FS type usualy so I took a visit to Pleasant.
For those who haven't been there in awhile...or even those that don't know Gina.
You will fine other reports on how sweet Gina is posted here.
I think she looks cuter w her hair a little longer.
Gina will give you an experience that you wished you could get from a visit to Lilly's but know you will never get.
Gina is still there. Lovely as ever.
Use common sense and opportunity is still out there.
I ll visit her again.
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