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I seen an ad on the BP today for a newly opened place in OC called New Horizons. The add appears like all the others. Did this just open this week? I think I might try this afternoon and provide a report because I can't see one of these places lasting very long in this Small town.
I seen an ad on the BP today for a newly opened place in OC called New Horizons. The add appears like all the others. Did this just open this week? I think I might try this afternoon and provide a report because I can't see one of these places lasting very long in this Small town.Yeah tried to upsell to do mutual touch very nice girl, Sophia very energetic and open minded seemed like an open menu, I took the standard which was much better than most place around here! Hurry a place like this won't last long I would say it would compare probably to the city massage that was on 933.
I have to second the previous review. I had Sophia (who was very attractive) for a massage just a minute ago and she definitely knows how to make it an enjoyable experience. Didn't inquire as to what the full menu might be but for a first visit it was great and I was able to have some options that aren't necessarily available elsewhere. YMMV but members PM if you want details.
Member #5202
04-07-15, 17:40
I went. I had Wendy. Basic rub and tug. She seemed nervous about being caught; kept looking out the door. Actually a curtain over the doorway. She wouldn't close the door. On my way out Sophia stopped me and said next time she will give me a massage. Wendy was so-so. Sophia was hot!
I visited but didn't get the name of the lady. It was an enjoyable visit and I left thoroughly relaxed. The only problem is that the entry / exit is rather exposed to the surrounding businesses. Will probably try again at a different time of day.
I visited recently and had Cici.
The massage was uninspired. Left happy, but not what I would call a great experience. Pretty typical for the area.
Got lucky and got Sophia.
Good Back Massage but light on the front.
Did a good job relieving my stress.
Attractive and allowed plenty of roaming.
The rooms are a bit disconcerting. She shut but didn't latch the door.
For a while though after she had left for a moment she left it open and didn't even close the drape until I asked!
Will still repeat.
Important note: Google Maps and my GPS did NOT find the location. NH was a mile or so farther east next to a martial arts school.
Read the reviews and decided to give Sophia a shot. Reviews are accurate and IMO she is one of the best in the area, although I'm still partial to Lisa in Granger.
The bad; Went for a hh and on the flip there was an upsell, which is a turn off for me. Additional roaming allowed for larger tip but didn't appear that there was anything else on the menu. I stuck with my usual. 4 tip. The open door might also be a problem for some and she left the room several times to answer the phone. All together a nice time and will likely repeat.
Would love to find petite, white, independent masseuse in the area and appreciate any leads.
Introduced to new girl Lisa. Maybe early 40's but nice looking and good figure. English not great but that's SOP. Started massage a little soft but got a lot better when I asked for hard please.
Ended up with really good relaxing massage from her and a Great finish.
http://southbend.craigslist.org/thp/5004347610.html
Opens today in Mishawaka giving deals on hour massage for 45.00, located on south Main Street. I can't visit right away so someone please update us on this place.
http://southbend.craigslist.org/thp/5004347610.html
Opens today in Mishawaka giving deals on hour massage for 45.00, located on south Main Street. I can't visit right away so someone please update us on this place.I gave this place a shot today and it was not really what I was expecting in several ways. It is adjacent to a beauty salon so I immediately thought I might be barking up the wrong tree but figured for the price it was worth it just for the massage. It appears to be separate from the salon though. Greeted by 50 ish mamasan in the lobby wearing a short dress. She showed me to a room and another 50 ish masseuse in shorty shorts came in and started. She seemed a bit inexperienced and was doing a low pressure massage combined with light touch for the first few minutes but it was very relaxing. Used heated oil which was a big plus in my book. After 10 minutes or so the mamasan came in and they both massaged me at the same time. Mamasan was up on the table straddling my neck and kind of grinding on the back of my head while running her hands and arms down the length of my torso and butt almost body to body style while the other masseuse was doing light touch on my legs and foot massage. They alternated roles and areas with the mamasan taking the lead and doing a lot of stretch positions with my legs. She was not shy about brushing the ass and boys, running her finger up my ass crack, even reaching around my thigh completely from the back all the way back around to my hip. She spent a lot of time on the table. On the flip no regard for draping and I figured HE was a sure thing and was thinking, wow this will be awesome. Until it was over and I let her know she had forgotten an area at which point I was informed that wasn't offered. Self service was suggested and had I known I probably would have and maybe would have gotten an assist but I misread it enough that I wasn't left with the option at that point.
2 person massage was a fun new experience though and no HE might just be a first time visitor thing although I'm not sure as she was very matter of fact discussing it. Also on a side note, the high visibility of the entrance wasn't my favorite thing either. I will probably repeat while they're running this special to try my luck again.
http://southbend.backpage.com/BodyRubs/siera/12359453
Any intel on this lovely lady. Need a massage so may TOFTT unless someone advises otherwise. Thanks in advance.
LuvEscorts2
05-08-15, 12:34
http://southbend.backpage.com/BodyRubs/siera/12359453
Any intel on this lovely lady. Need a massage so may TOFTT unless someone advises otherwise. Thanks in advance.Your not going to like it but you might try.
http://www.listal.com/viewimage/4860112
Your not going to like it but you might try.
http://www.listal.com/viewimage/4860112Damn. I got really excited when I saw this ad. Looks just like a CMT I've seen a time or two. And if she's advertising on backpage then.
Don't wate your time I tried it today got a four hand for 70, ten tip and no extras and the massage was not even that good.
LookingForLefty
05-12-15, 22:58
I gave this place a shot today and it was not really what I was expecting in several ways. It is adjacent to a beauty salon so I immediately thought I might be barking up the wrong tree but figured for the price it was worth it just for the massage. It appears to be separate from the salon though. Greeted by 50 ish mamasan in the lobby wearing a short dress. She showed me to a room and another 50 ish masseuse in shorty shorts came in and started. She seemed a bit inexperienced and was doing a low pressure massage combined with light touch for the first few minutes but it was very relaxing. Used heated oil which was a big plus in my book. After 10 minutes or so the mamasan came in and they both massaged me at the same time. Mamasan was up on the table straddling my neck and kind of grinding on the back of my head while running her hands and arms down the length of my torso and butt almost body to body style while the other masseuse was doing light touch on my legs and foot massage. They alternated roles and areas with the mamasan taking the lead and doing a lot of stretch positions with my legs. She was not shy about brushing the ass and boys, running her finger up my ass crack, even reaching around my thigh completely from the back all the way back around to my hip. She spent a lot of time on the table. On the flip no regard for draping and I figured HE was a sure thing and was thinking, wow this will be awesome. Until it was over and I let her know she had forgotten an area at which point I was informed that wasn't offered. Self service was suggested and had I known I probably would have and maybe would have gotten an assist but I misread it enough that I wasn't left with the option at that point.
2 person massage was a fun new experience though and no HE might just be a first time visitor thing although I'm not sure as she was very matter of fact discussing it. Also on a side note, the high visibility of the entrance wasn't my favorite thing either. I will probably repeat while they're running this special to try my luck again.I have found anything within the city limits of Mishawauka is a waste of time and money.
OnlyForMe99
05-28-15, 11:22
Saw these two ads and wondered if they were the same person or related. Locations are close in proximity, both ads are very similar in style and wording, and one ad is open Mon. / Tues. / wed and the other thurs / Fri. / sat.
http://southbend.craigslist.org/thp/5042416491.html (Mon. / Tues. / wed) middlebury st goshen.
http://southbend.craigslist.org/thp/5042446685.html (thurs / Fri. / sat) main st misha.
Thanks! Going to try both out soon and see if they are indeed related. Will report when I do.
Member #5202
05-28-15, 12:28
Saw these two ads and wondered if they were the same person or related. Locations are close in proximity, both ads are very similar in style and wording, and one ad is open Mon. / Tues. / wed and the other thurs / Fri. / sat.
http://southbend.craigslist.org/thp/5042416491.html (Mon. / Tues. / wed) middlebury st goshen.
http://southbend.craigslist.org/thp/5042446685.html (thurs / Fri. / sat) main st misha.
Thanks! Going to try both out soon and see if they are indeed related. Will report when I do.As for Main st. Save your money! I tried it. It's a diy place. They will brush up against your junk but that's it. A bit of a tease in my opinion. I didn't even tip. Waste of $80.
OnlyForMe99
05-29-15, 11:57
As for Main st. Save your money! I tried it. It's a diy place. They will brush up against your junk but that's it. A bit of a tease in my opinion. I didn't even tip. Waste of $80.Good to know! Thanks for the info!
stevealluna
06-02-15, 14:12
Went to New Horizon in OC after reading a few comments in this forum. The place isn't much to look at, the Christmas lights hanging on wall was interesting. Blankets.
Over doorways isn't what I prefer either. I gave it a shot and tried 30 minutes. The asian women that met me at door was named Angela. I thought she was pretty.
And a really nice figure. She wore shorts and had beautiful legs too. LIght touch massage was typical. ON the flip she asked for small tip for a handy finish. I was good.
And allowed for light touching of her. I wanted to touch more and she wanted more tippage. I wouldn't give her much more but I gave her alittle more tip. I'm not very.
Interested in a wide menu. I'm happy with a happy finish. I will go back to see Angela.
Tried Top Oriental today. Apparently they we're closed but are now under new management. They reduced prices now 30 min for $35 and 60 min for $50. No pressure for tips and the massage was great, 5 stars. It is now my favorite. I will be going back.
I plan to be in the area in the next couple of days and am looking for recommendations. After reading I am trying to decide between New Horizon in OC and New impression on 933. If I go to OC and ask for Sophia what does she look like?
I plan to be in the area in the next couple of days and am looking for recommendations. After reading I am trying to decide between New Horizon in OC and New impression on 933. If I go to OC and ask for Sophia what does she look like?New Impressions is ok, a little more conservative, Lisa there is nice. But my favorite in that area is Best Chinese just North of New Impressions several blocks on the West corner at Palisades. Two or three girls always there, dependable, usually good looking, great massage, no pressure for tips. You get your money's worth.
OC is ok. Sophia is flashier than the other girl and has a few more miles on her maybe, but still attractive. But the other girl is great too, she is a little more on the sweet side, younger, nice body, and I think she competes a little with Sophia by trying harder. Descent, no rush massage from my experience although their doors just have cloths hanging over them and are open but they are very careful about customer privacy.
New Impressions is ok, a little more conservative, Lisa there is nice. But my favorite in that area is Best Chinese just North of New Impressions several blocks on the West corner at Palisades. Two or three girls always there, dependable, usually good looking, great massage, no pressure for tips. You get your money's worth.
OC is ok. Sophia is flashier than the other girl and has a few more miles on her maybe, but still attractive. But the other girl is great too, she is a little more on the sweet side, younger, nice body, and I think she competes a little with Sophia by trying harder. Descent, no rush massage from my experience although their doors just have cloths hanging over them and are open but they are very careful about customer privacy.Great day for a ride on the Goldwing today. Decided that I needed a little massage and since I was on the north side stopped in at New Impressions. Lisa seemed to be the only one there, she is attractive enough and does give a decent massage. She looks to be in her early 30's which probably means she's late 40's. Everything as expected and she made sure hat I got the full hour, so I was happy and refreshed. I think that she is prettier than Sophia, but not nearly as aggressive. My only complaint is that I couldn't understand her at all, but I will be back.
OnlyForMe99
06-19-15, 07:35
Does NH have a table shower? Thought about trying them out this week and that's one thing I really enjoy. PM or here is fine. Thanks!
Does NH have a table shower? Thought about trying them out this week and that's one thing I really enjoy. PM or here is fine. Thanks!No, no table or standup shower at New Horizons.
SimplySkilled
06-24-15, 07:33
Planning on going to New Horizons for the first time, can someone give me some tips on how to get any extras, and what's un the menu?
GerrTaz1234
06-25-15, 18:58
Went to YM to give it a shot, just moved here and wanted a massage too. I have no idea who I got, but massage was good and I did leave very happy!
Will go back one of these days. It was. 6 for massage and. 4 tip, pretty reasonable. Be safe out there.
stevealluna
06-30-15, 23:22
Are there there any AMP in the michiana area that does have a table shower? I haven't seen one in ages in this area. Thank you.
Member #5202
07-01-15, 17:00
Are there there any AMP in the michiana area that does have a table shower? I haven't seen one in ages in this area. Thank you.No where in St Joe county. Nearest is Michigan City (Osaka). TLC in Kazoo and Happy Spa in BC are pretty good.
Stopped by Top Oriental today. New management and they have upgraded the facility. It is a lot more private now. Also better staff. This time saw the great Lisa from Best Oriental there. One of my all time favorites.
Let the little head do the thinking today and regret it immensely. Was desperate and went into Sun for the half hour and gave mamasan the. 40. Was led to a room and in comes an older lady with way too much makeup on. Went for the TS and then back to the room, very short massage then the negotiations began. I wouldn't go for $. 4 so she eventually dropped a little and I finally agreed. She then went over and got my pants to pay me now, which I did with 20's. She says, you shorted me and holds the bills up which I promptly grab and low and behold, it's all there. She tried to fold the bills over so that it looked like I hadn't given her enough, but I've seen the trick before. I told her to forget it since I was so pissed, I just got dressed and left. NEVER AGAIN will I go to this dive.
OnlyForMe99
07-06-15, 11:30
Tried New Horizons Saturday afternoon and got Sophia. Definitely wasn't disappointed and she acted like she was really into it. Had short jean shorts and a cut off tee shirt. Nice skinny and tanned. Not a big fan of the blankets on the doorways but felt discreet enough. Was pleasantly surprised by a few things she did and definitely made me a repeat customer! Seniors can PM for details.
Gutenberg469
07-06-15, 15:02
Are there there any AMP in the michiana area that does have a table shower? I haven't seen one in ages in this area. Thank you.YM has one, just not offered or used much.
I've visited a few times since they have opened, always had Sophia. Stopped by today for 30 min. As always, a happy experience. Allowed for more roaming than usual for the last FIVe minutes or so. Also asked her about oral release and was given a friendly "no". Bad news is that Sophia is leaving town for about a month. Have never sampled anyone else's service there.
I've visited a few times since they have opened, always had Sophia. Stopped by today for 30 min. As always, a happy experience. Allowed for more roaming than usual for the last FIVe minutes or so. Also asked her about oral release and was given a friendly "no". Bad news is that Sophia is leaving town for about a month. Have never sampled anyone else's service there.Does that mean oral was allowed, just with a hand release, or full hand?
Does that mean oral was allowed, just with a hand release, or full hand?Oral was completely declined.
Michguy555
07-09-15, 13:38
Let the little head do the thinking today and regret it immensely. Was desperate and went into Sun for the half hour and gave mamasan the. 40. Was led to a room and in comes an older lady with way too much makeup on. Went for the TS and then back to the room, very short massage then the negotiations began. I wouldn't go for $. 4 so she eventually dropped a little and I finally agreed. She then went over and got my pants to pay me now, which I did with 20's. She says, you shorted me and holds the bills up which I promptly grab and low and behold, it's all there. She tried to fold the bills over so that it looked like I hadn't given her enough, but I've seen the trick before. I told her to forget it since I was so pissed, I just got dressed and left. NEVER AGAIN will I go to this dive.I haven't been there in probably 6 months, but I've had some OK times there, including one outstanding visit. Like everything in this hobby, it's always YMMV. I've also had a subpar visit there. It just depends on who the girl is and what kind of day she's having. That said, I'm not criticizing the post. Sounds like a nightmare visit, and they deserve the negative write up. . But all in all I'd rather this AMP remain an option because there aren't many in this neck of the woods where a HE is even an option.
OnlyForMe99
07-16-15, 10:43
Had an enjoyable time at OC a couple of weeks ago with Sophia and heard that she is leaving town for a month. Would like to go back and try the other gals out and wondered if anyone could suggest who I should ask for since Sophia is gone? Thanks!
Made a first time visit to the New Horizon airstrip in Osceola the other day. Checked out a young female pilot. Didn't get her name so I don't know if this was the already famous Sophia but her aircraft had a lot of decals on the wings. She didn't speak much English at all so I don't know if she has been flying here for long. Went for an hour long flight. She used heated rocks to warm up the engine which was nice. The standard part of the flight was very well done. When it came time for the landing, she definitely showed her stick handling skills. She even uncovered her forward weaponry and allowed me to inspect the warheads manually although the bomb bay was not visible and could be inspected only by feel through the tarp. Fired the main gun successfully and she cleaned up the equipment after the landing. Definitely a nice flight and I would take this aircraft out again.
Member #5324
07-20-15, 13:30
Change of ownership as of last week, Judy has retired and sold the business to somebody who has similar places in Indianapolis. I have not been in since the change. I hope the new owner brought some hot young talent up.
OnlyForMe99
07-21-15, 11:41
Stopped by NH this past weekend and had Angela. I didn't see Sophia so I think she's still out of town. When I came in the front door Angela was waiting for me and took me to the room. Massage was average but she was pleasant and I left happy. I left my standard tip for an excellent massage and she didn't seem concerned about the amount and didn't even look at it, just took it with a smile and led me out to the candy dish. Was hoping to get the younger girl that was mentioned in previous posts but Angela made it an enjoyable time nonetheless.
SimplySkilled
07-21-15, 16:47
Do any of these massage parlors allow kissing?
Anyone else tried Top Oriental since they came under new management?
Member #5324
08-04-15, 21:32
Anyone else tried Top Oriental since they came under new management?I did. Drew Helen, an older but attractive and in-shape therapist. Good massage. About halfway through, a slightly chubby younger girl came in to check me and do the LEO check. I guess I passed. Was that Lisa? No transition, meaning no light touching tease after the massage ends and before the flip. Almost nobody does a tease in South Bend since Ruby left at Yellow Moon. Standard ending, standard tip.
SimplySkilled
08-06-15, 15:30
I did. Drew Helen, an older but attractive and in-shape therapist. Good massage. About halfway through, a slightly chubby younger girl came in to check me and do the LEO check. I guess I passed. Was that Lisa? No transition, meaning no light touching tease after the massage ends and before the flip. Almost nobody does a tease in South Bend since Ruby left at Yellow Moon. Standard ending, standard tip.So does that mean touching was allowed during the massage?
Member #5283
08-16-15, 06:08
I had a free Saturday afternoon, so stopped at YM for the first time. Greeted cheerfully by Lisa. Got the hour for. 6. Very good massage. Lisa paid good attention to the spots that needed help. On the flip, she got to business rather quickly and skillfully. Tipped. 4 and got a hug.
TriaMachine
08-16-15, 11:22
Was in town for business, visited Relax on S. Michigan. No TS, $60 for 1 hour. Chinese masseuse appears to be in her forties. Good standard massage provided with oil, did some slight teasing on the legs and ass area. On the flip I had instant hardon as she went straight to massaging the stomach area getting close to the pubic region, was draped at this point. Massage of the legs was more on top of the thighs and getting close to pubic region was thinking that perhaps no HJ was forth coming. On to the feet and then back to the thighs, this time with oil and worked the inner thighs, was making a lot contact with the boys, bringing the hard on again. Afterwards she said 10 minutes left and I didn't understand her English, I was assuming she was asking if I wanted her to finish so I said ok with a head nod. Then she placed my hand on the boys, which confused me so I placed her hand on it. Then it was on, good HJ using two hands, with roaming permitted. Cleaned up, tipped and out the door. Felt a little weird, as there is a guy working the front desk, who I assume is her significant other, hard to look a man in the eyes after doing what you were doing with his old lady.
Was in town for business, visited Relax on S. Michigan. No TS, $60 for 1 hour. Chinese masseuse appears to be in her forties. Good standard massage provided with oil, did some slight teasing on the legs and ass area. On the flip I had instant hardon as she went straight to massaging the stomach area getting close to the pubic region, was draped at this point. Massage of the legs was more on top of the thighs and getting close to pubic region was thinking that perhaps no HJ was forth coming. On to the feet and then back to the thighs, this time with oil and worked the inner thighs, was making a lot contact with the boys, bringing the hard on again. Afterwards she said 10 minutes left and I didn't understand her English, I was assuming she was asking if I wanted her to finish so I said ok with a head nod. Then she placed my hand on the boys, which confused me so I placed her hand on it. Then it was on, good HJ using two hands, with roaming permitted. Cleaned up, tipped and out the door. Felt a little weird, as there is a guy working the front desk, who I assume is her significant other, hard to look a man in the eyes after doing what you were doing with his old lady.Definitely husband, which is why it's pointless to try for anything more at that location.
Gutenberg469
08-17-15, 14:04
I thought Relax was sold to a group out of Indianapolis? I was getting ready to give it a shot sometime.
I used to go there, she is quite good. But I tired of nothing more on menu. And yeah, the husband thing was bothersome too. Haven't been there for 3+ years. Last time I was there a very large, unattractive attendant met me at door. I did the usual dodge saying 'oh I thought you took credit cards' and didn't return. Ever.
Stopped by this morning for a massage, multiple cars in lot and was asked by older woman to come back in 30 minutes. Came back and to my dismay, saw that she would be providing my massage. I got a half hour. Ok massage, rushed (I was back in my car 20 minutes after entering), on the flip she asked for a $. 4 tip, to which I replied I had only brought $. 2 because fuck that, standard happy finish, overall quite disappointing on all fronts though. These places are hit or miss sometimes so I'll probably give them another shot next time I'm in the area and feel like a massage, but if that's their new MO then I will start taking my business elsewhere. I didn't catch her name (it wasn't offered and I didn't ask) but I'll make sure to get someone else next time. I have no problem taking care of these girls, but not for bad service, bad massage, and cut time.
Member #5324
08-18-15, 20:49
I thought Relax was sold to a group out of Indianapolis? I was getting ready to give it a shot sometime.
I used to go there, she is quite good. But I tired of nothing more on menu. And yeah, the husband thing was bothersome too. Haven't been there for 3+ years. Last time I was there a very large, unattractive attendant met me at door. I did the usual dodge saying 'oh I thought you took credit cards' and didn't return. Ever.Yea, Judy told me the guy at the desk who bought the place also owns some spots in Indy and he wanted to expand into the South Bend market.
Disappointing that it is the same older ladies and basic service that we have always had here in SB. I miss Judy, she was very, very good at her job. I never got more than basic service from her, but she was always the best at it in South Bend. By far. She should give classes on how to do a tease.
OnlyForMe99
08-20-15, 11:04
Anyone know if Sophia is back yet? Angela was ok last time but really miss Sophia!
Went back to Top Oriental a few days ago. Last time I was there, Lisa seemed to be running the show and gave a good session. This time? Not so good. Reasonable standard massage, but nothing to get too excited about.
stevealluna
08-28-15, 23:08
Anyone know if Sophia is back yet? Angela was ok last time but really miss Sophia!I went to NH this evening and got Lisa. Not a bad massage with nice teasing. Nice finish. I asked as I was leaving if Sophia was there and said I'd like to meet her. Sophia was working and I did get to meet her. I did like her legs in her cut off shorts and thought she had a nice smile. Angela seems to trip my trigger when I go there. I was told Angela would be back next week.
stevealluna
08-28-15, 23:15
I checked out Best Chinese a few days ago and did not recognize the slim attactive woman that led me to a room. She was with a client and didn't return. A curvy woman named April gave me a massage. The Massage was ok. Nothing special. The finish was a bit different for me, I wasnt expecting someone to stick a finger, deep up there. Something I'm not to fond of, but wasnt to bad. I just can't say its really my thing. If its your thing, then see April and let her drill for oil. Have fun.
I stopped at Best Chinese yesterday and got Mei-ree (Mary?). It was right after lunch and there was one other monger there. While I was there the door ran at least two more times and it seemed like everyone was accomodated. Mary did a very good massage but the ending was a little strange with a two handed action that was not entirely pleasant. Very limited roaming also. The SB search continues but at least for me Top Oriental was my most enjoyable experience, followed by NH (negotiations suck). The only parlor left is Top Chinese, but I really doubt that it will be any better. I hate to drive all the way to Grand Rapids to satisfy my purient interests.
Member #5324
09-12-15, 01:35
I've been very pleased, all three visits were above average for our area. I saw three different ladies over a two week span. None were April, whom somebody wrote about earlier. I really wanted to try her but they seem to have a lineup system and they don't want to jump the line. Asking for her was met with complete disdain which morphed into feigned misunderstanding.
The girls were all 30-40 ish Chinese. Some spoke good English, some none at all. All gave very good massages, no complaints there for any of them. Two of the three took the time to do the "transition tease: after the back massage is over and before you flip over. That can be the best part of a massage. They were both good at oit. The third skipped this step.
All three provided a nice finish, different syles, different comfort zones with what is reasonable for a monger to do during the finish, but I was happy with all three. I tipped differently to all three to reflect their talent, enthusiasm, and cooperation with my wishes. The more enthusiasm for me, the more enthusiastic a tip I leave. Sensible, no?
Demoan1313
09-25-15, 08:04
I was in need of a massage and didn't have time to run to the big city. So I took a chance with a place I found online by Goshen. Good massage, left happy and relaxed. Older asian lady but attractive. PM me if you want to know more.
I've been very pleased, all three visits were above average for our area. I saw three different ladies over a two week span. None were April, whom somebody wrote about earlier. I really wanted to try her but they seem to have a lineup system and they don't want to jump the line. Asking for her was met with complete disdain which morphed into feigned misunderstanding.
The girls were all 30-40 ish Chinese. Some spoke good English, some none at all. All gave very good massages, no complaints there for any of them. Two of the three took the time to do the "transition tease: after the back massage is over and before you flip over. That can be the best part of a massage. They were both good at oit. The third skipped this step.
All three provided a nice finish, different syles, different comfort zones with what is reasonable for a monger to do during the finish, but I was happy with all three. I tipped differently to all three to reflect their talent, enthusiasm, and cooperation with my wishes. The more enthusiasm for me, the more enthusiastic a tip I leave. Sensible, no?Agree. I had a great time. Very satified.
I was in need of a massage and didn't have time to run to the big city. So I took a chance with a place I found online by Goshen. Good massage, left happy and relaxed. Older asian lady but attractive. PM me if you want to know more.Sent PM no answer.
Demoan1313
10-06-15, 08:30
Sorry it took a while, but I don't get on the board every day. I do have things I have to get done before I play.
Sent PM no answer.
Member #5202
10-10-15, 13:55
http://southbend.backpage.com/BodyRubs/grand-opening-lemon-spa-574-333-3477/13459816
Lemon Spa is the name. TOFTT and it was your basic are&t. 40 ish. She let me roam over below the waist and under above. Thought I recognized the other one from New Horizon but I'm not sure.
After a sub par visit last time I was there I thought I'd give them a shot recently. Paid for the hour and massage was not good at all. Standard finish. Out the door in 45 minutes. Always have had good experiences with Sophia there but never have had one with any of the other girls.
After a sub par visit last time I was there I thought I'd give them a shot recently. Paid for the hour and massage was not good at all. Standard finish. Out the door in 45 minutes. Always have had good experiences with Sophia there but never have had one with any of the other girls.I have been there twice now once with just Sophia and she had me out the door in 45 minutes when I paid for an hour. Then last Friday I was in there had some good luck at the casino decided to go with 4 hand with Sophia and the other girl same thing paid for the hour had me out the door after just 45 minutes.
BlackWookie
10-24-15, 09:15
I have been there twice now once with just Sophia and she had me out the door in 45 minutes when I paid for an hour. Then last Friday I was in there had some good luck at the casino decided to go with 4 hand with Sophia and the other girl same thing paid for the hour had me out the door after just 45 minutes.I am on the same page here. My buddy and I have both visited here and it seemed like we were both out the door fast. 45 min may have been pushing it for us. More like 40 min. Standard finish, not worth it.
TequilaSundae
10-28-15, 11:32
Hello all. Been to Yellow Moon, Chinese in Granger, and the one on Edison. First Yellow Moon, early this summer. One masseuse working, old lady in glass room tending to crying baby who squalled the entire time. Massage was passable barely. Left door open the entire time. She asked in code if I wanted HE, said yes. Kicker was, she waited till my clothes were on to tell me that it was extra. Left mad.
Edison AMP. Can't recall name. Pretty ladies, hot stone massage. Encouraged to do my own HE. Great massage though. Relaxed, but not happy.
Sort of regular at Best Chinese in granger. Keep getting young girl with gap in her teeth. Cute, very bubbly. Lots of play in back before flip. Nearly kissed last time, but didn't push. I like hard rub, so she walked on my back, straddled my head, sat on table a lot. Allows roaming around butt and back but I didn't push. Going to try new horizon next, is new place on min worth it?
TequilaSundae
10-28-15, 12:12
I tried there again after your post. Didn't seem much different. Anyone been there lately?I was there earlier this summer. Place was a wreck. Clothes hanging out in the open. Baby crying and she kept having to check on it. TV was blaring where mamasan was watching baby. Barely passable massage, she was in a bad mood. Asked if I wanted He, up sold me at the end. Tipped out of guilt never gone back.
TequilaSundae
10-29-15, 12:06
Checked it out after work. Greeted by mamasan, led down hallway to room with curtain over doorway. Got nice looking girl in shorts. Didn't know etiquette, sign in broken engrish says absolutely illegal massage? Asked for hard rub, and got it, worked lot of kinks out, but spent so m7 ch time on my back that I thought might not be anything else. Tapped, asked if done, so I flipped over,. Over towel at first then motions toward shirt. Earlier she put my hands on her l3 gs. Shows the girls, let's. Me touch. Does not finish me but helps out. Going to come back.
She posts often on CL http://southbend.craigslist.org/thp/5289169938.html.
Has anyone ever tried? Is she BBW what's the menu like?
Thanks.
I had a vision about both places this week.
I believe both are Chinese backed.
Both offered the best massage that I ever dreamed, Very pleasant staff and roaming was allowed above & below.
But NO Extras to be had at all.
Left happy but not my dream of an AMP.
Be safe out there.
Jim Steele
11-16-15, 18:59
main st mishawaka
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.I don't know if this place was open, but a few months back I had the four hand massage. It was very different, not as therapeutic, more sensual. And yet, No HE, but worthwhile and per the taoist notion of conserving vital energies, exhilarating. I felt my testosterone level was elevated rather than sapped. Again not sure if this place is still open, but I thought it was kind of fun.
Jim Steele
11-16-15, 19:04
Was in town for business, visited Relax on S. Michigan. No TS, $60 for 1 hour. Chinese masseuse appears to be in her forties. ..... there is a guy working the front desk, who I assume is her significant other...Tried it out first time post new ownership and the place smelled way too much like Chinese food. I don't know who he is but he is obviously the attendant. In that neighborhood they need a man there to keep the riff raff out. However, I should like it if the old guy to put a decent shirt on, as I don't mind seeing an attendant but if he's wearing a wife beater its' a big turn off. Now if he puts a decent shirt on and the spruce the place up and it doesn't smell like a used wok, that would be a better experience.
The massage however, was very competent and satisfying. The lady was friendly and confident. Table seemed a little small. Overall I would not revisit unless I heard that the premises have been upgraded somewhat.
Jim Steele
11-16-15, 19:07
After a sub par visit last time I was there I thought I'd give them a shot recently. Paid for the hour and massage was not good at all. Standard finish. Out the door in 45 minutes. Always have had good experiences with Sophia there but never have had one with any of the other girls.Never had Sophia but the other girls have all been fine. All very friendly. At the same time I am friendly and I tip fairly and they know it so I get a good reception. Once there I got the stone massage once which was less impressive than it sounds. So I would say that the massage quality has been uneven. I don't favor it because of the goofy door flaps. They need to fix that situation.
Jim Steele
11-16-15, 19:10
Edison road-- I have seen a nice looking white woman coming out of there as a client so I think they are very therapeutic massage oriented if you pardon the pun. Also they have a fancy website. I don't make this location for any sort of HE type activity. I think there is a niche for therapeutic only Chinese massage places. I have had quite a few "westerners" do massages that were overpriced and underperforming compared to the average therapeutic massage. I enjoy the Chinese mssage so much that I feel it's important that there is a diverse service offering around town. So I wish them well.
Jim Steele
11-16-15, 19:17
I like this place, personally, and I am in no hurry to promote it and make it too busy. I always get a good satisfying and professional massage. Here however is my list of beefs. 1-- it's too damn cold. They need to turn up the heat. 2-- The girls hardly speak any English, although, come to think it, this doesn't bother me personally even though I suppose it might bother others. 3--Also they need to vacuum more often. 4-- also see if they can get the dark ring out from the toilet bowl. That irritates me, even though they have been keeping the place cleaner recently. 5-- Sometimes one of the girls is kind of moody, too, which can be a downer. I mean they don't have to be bubbly or whatever but how about a mildly positive mood at least? 6-- and they both seem to watch the clock too closely. 7. They also need to make sure the batteries in the smoke detectors are charged because it kind of ruins the peaceful environment if you can hear one beeping. They fixed it now but I remember that was happening back early summer maybe, and it was kind of annoying.
Jim Steele
11-16-15, 19:27
Top on Hickory: Great place, very clean. One lady speaks much English, the other one almost none. Both excellent masseuses. Only thing I don't like is that its too busy. I was in the middle of a nice massage once and it was lots of customers. And a few of them looked like baggy pants riff raff. I don't like to see chumps in these places because it makes the ladies uneasy and they always do better when they too are relaxed.
Best Oriental in Granger: Again, great place, very clean. Apparently shared management? I find them the cleanest and that's important. I mean all these places follow basic sanitary sheet and towel changing, but this place seems extra conscientious. I like that. It's really spic and span. Also this place will do a back walk, which I like. However, again, this place is too damn busy recently, I have had to turn away twice. You guys better space out your visits during the day on this one some, night gets too busy and they will raise rates or something if we don't watch it. Also this place seems to turn them over fastest. Lisa has been there a long time but the others have rotated more frequently than others. Personally, I like to get to know them a little better. If a lady really gets to know how to work out your muscles well and then -poof- she is gone, that's a bummer. Finally, again, later at night they seem tired sometimes and the energy can drop off right when it needs to actually accelerate. So they need to take more breaks or get more sleep or something, I don't know. They seem like they work very hard but masseuse is a physically taxing job and they need to be energetic to get it done properly.
Jim Steele
11-16-15, 19:48
The places on 31-- I never went to new impressions because it weirds me out that they got busted for FS a few years back. I am not looking for FS. I have lurked on this forum for a couple years and that has been out of bounds around here at these places and that is fine by me. None of them are crossing the line on this or even coming close. One almost wonders if there isn't a policy in place that has been established by all relevant actors. That is fine by me. I don't want to be in a place running testing the boundaries and possibly ruining my day by getting greedy. No judgment of others, only speaking for myself, but I am content with the expectations that have settled in around here and appreciate the chance to get a professional and satisfying asian massage in a safe and clean place. If there is an extra handshake or hug at the end that is perfectly fine too but the undesirable attention a place would get by testing boundaries would be bad for business. I am there for a nice relaxation and not any drama.
The other place up nearer the border, on the west side of the road, I tried a few times. I got a weak massage from two diff girls there, the worst I ever had around here, maybe a couple years ago. I gave it another try and finally had a lady I liked that knew proper methods and had a good mood, but then poof she was gone. I didn't go back because I don't have time for even one bad massage. The solid therapeutic massage is the bedrock of the experience and if it stinks then I have wasted part of my life. Also in my modest and admittedly limited experience, if they can't give a decent back massage than nothing else will be much better. So I will try this place again some day, but if I get a half-way back rub I am going to end the session early and walk.
I believe that they are smart enough to find this web page and read it, and, if they read this yes I want them to know, don't start a lady on massages unless she is going to do a decent job on it. The other stuff is where the tip comes in, but when a place charges you up front, they better deliver on the mandatory therapeutics.
I have made a few posts and will conclude with this thought. Always give these ladies a good tip if they try hard. I call them girls sometimes but we know they are all middle aged. I have never seen any younger than 30 here at best. So they are no spring chickens. And they are foreigners in our land and have few friends and we should show our generosity and quality as Americans to reward quality and good work. Here at this forum, which I have been reading for years, occasionally I have seen some people talk tough here and gentleman, bad attitude is counterproductive. If this county is a nice place to work we will have quality staff placed here in clean and orderly establishments, reasonable expectations will be met, and a good experience will be consistently available. If any bad apples ruin it for the rest of us by acting like jerks, it would be most unfortunate. If some people aren't satisfied they can go fish in the big pond down in Indy. What we have here is modest and decent and peaceful and it can stay that way. Thanks for listening and be safe.
Jerkartist
11-18-15, 18:30
http://www.wndu.com/home/headlines/Elkhart-massage-parlor-closes-amid-accusations-of-illicit-sexual-activity-351502161.html?device=phone&c=y
http://m.953mnc.com/News/Local/2015/11/18/Elkhart-massage-parlor-shut-down-after-reports-of-illegal-sexual-activity.html
Jim Steele
11-18-15, 21:37
I've never been to Lemon, don't know anything about it.
But the story, if you read it carefully, suggests that actually they had no evidence of any illegal activity, just some complaints from people who don't like it. And the ad seemed saucy. So they gave them a hard time so they closed. Maybe they shouldn't advertise on backpage is about all this suggests. It also suggests that Elkhart County is not a good place for AMPs.
I would hope that other shops won't close just because of a few complaints. Imagine if every liquor store got shut down because of a few complaints from busybodies.
The core service is the massage. One can get a massage in a hundred places around here from westerners but do they work out the knots and stress as well as these Asian places. Not in my book. They get a bad rap from jealous CMTs that don't like the competition.
Jim Steele
11-19-15, 14:15
Lest the powers that be adopt the same negative & unfair stance towards Asian massage parlors in St Joe county, I make the following observations, mostly for them, when they come here and read this.
1-- we are talking about at least 8 business all of which have been operating for years without any violations of law or prosecutions at all. I doubt they even have complaints from other local businesses or residents. Volume is low and parking is never a problem. None of them are open past 930 pm or so, so nobody is coming and going at off hours.
2-- of these at least 8 businesses they pay rent, and they are darn sure paying some kind of taxes, nobody can get around taxes of one kind or another in this country. The employees-- who knows how many but figure around 20 working at any given time-- they too are consumers of local goods and services themselves even if they don't go out much.
3-- the locations are not really depressed locations but they aren't premium ones either. It's better for the public to have a business that is peaceful and quiet and helping people feel physically better than to have a vacancy that does nothing, discourages other local businesses, hurts landlords, and drags us all down.
4-- men who work physical jobs hurt all over and even men who have desk jobs get older and our backs hurt our feet and hands get arthritic and as an arthritic old man myself I want a massage but no way am I going to the mall for one. I would rather have an Asian woman I don't know give me a massage, than go into a place with a bunch of white women who may be my social peers and are going to want to talk to me or tease me or maybe even gossip about me when I am gone. So sorry all you other CMTs out there, you charge more than them, and you should talk less to clients. I just don't want to go to Massage Envy in the mall and have a chatty cathy working on me I would rather be able to have peaceful silence for an hour.
5-- Lets talk about methods for a second. An American woman can go out there and study accupressure points or even qigong or get some alphabet soup certifications in this or that asiatic branded method (reiki, what a joke) but its another thing altogether to get a massage from a Chinese woman who has grown up in a culture that actually believes in qi and has lived it. I have had a lot of massages from westerners too and some of them thought they knew accurpressure points and some knew them better than others. I have never had as good a massage with proper accupressure point manipulations however than I have had from a Chinese person and yes I had one from an old Chinese guy up in Chicago years back that was great. Nothing against our fellow Americans here, but the cultural belief in qi goes into these massages and if you have had them a lot and payed attention to your body you know that you are getting a lot more from a good AMP massage than just "happiness. " So this is pure customer choice.
6-- a lot of us are using these and we vote and we make political donations and we may in fact be democrats and the elected democrats in ST Joe county have been and better keep on being hospitable to these businesses because we like them and it will not be good for the community if they fall under selective prosecutions.
That you for your attention to this message!
First time poster, First time ever getting a massage. Visited New Horrizon on Lincolnway East in Oceola on Friday. Went late morning. Was met at the door by Coco. Attractive young lady. Well young to me. Probably in her early 30's. Very nice lady. Again first time ever getting a massage. Very nice massage. She seem to hit all of the sore spots. Only got the 30 minuet as I didn't want to go to deep the first time. Room was very clean and Coco was very nice. Didn't ask for any extras as I was a nervous noob but the experience was great. We sat and talked for a little while after the massage was over. She said that it looked like they were going to close this Monday. She told me this was the same owners as Lemon in Elkhart. Didn't say why they were closing just that they were and may open under new name and management in a couple weeks.
I will definitely be keeping an eye on it as Coco made this a great first time experience. Gave her a nice tip, probably to big for just a massage, but again she worked hard, did a little clean teasing and was very nice. If this place does close I will try to find out where Coco ends up and maybe get a little braver and see if there are a little bit of extras available.
Had another season today at NH. They were open so I was a little confused about her statements last week that they may not be open.
Anyway, went for the 60 minuet today. Once again a great massage! But remember this is only my second time to an AMP. Coco was very friendly as she was last time. No extras but I have only been there twice so there is hope. I don't want to be to forward. Allowed some causal touching but again didn't want to get carried away just yet. But all in all a very pleasant experience.
I got the opportunity to go see her Saturday evening and was presently surprised. She is a white massage therapist and her office is very clean. She gives a good massage and I left happy. She advertises on Craigslist.
Member #5324
11-23-15, 23:34
Noobie67, thanks for your contributions to the board. There is no reason to be so reserved and timid at NH or at any other AMP. They are in the pleasure business, they won't be offended if you let them know what you want. They either will or will not provide the desired service, but you need to be a bit more aggressive. Especially on your second visit, it was time to find out what they think of you as a customer. After you flip over, make eye contact, give her a smile, and rub her ass or thighs. If that isn't enough to get things started, guide her hand where you want it. Maybe ask if she would mind massaging one more place and indicate where that might be. DO NOT offer a specific tip for this, that puts both you and her at risk. Just say what you would like to happen. And it will.
Had another season today at NH. They were open so I was a little confused about her statements last week that they may not be open.
Anyway, went for the 60 minuet today. Once again a great massage! But remember this is only my second time to an AMP. Coco was very friendly as she was last time. No extras but I have only been there twice so there is hope. I don't want to be to forward. Allowed some causal touching but again didn't want to get carried away just yet. But all in all a very pleasant experience.
Thanks for the advice Putt Putt. I will give that a try next time I go to NH. BUT. Had a bad day yesterday. While out doing my job I had car trouble. I was over on 933 so I thought what the heck. Left my car to get fixed and went over to Best on 933. Very very clean place.
Took some things I have read in the forum. Like not covering with the towel when I laid down. Had a little bit older lady but still attractive and very nice. Forgot to ask her name. Absolutely a better massage. She was dressed in dress slacks and nice oriental top. I thought ok good thing my back does hurt cause I'm dropping for two massages in one day.
I was loving the massage. She was very good at find the sore muscles. Flipped. Maybe she could tell I was timid and did make comment a couple times about this only being my third massage.
Then she just took matters into her own hands. Never indicated or asked for tip or anything. Allowed some roaming but again I didn't push to much.
I know the session went over on hour but she seemed determined to make sure I was completely happy when she was done. Left very happy. From start to the finish she was very good and in control. Will definitely go back here.
Noobie67, thanks for your contributions to the board. There is no reason to be so reserved and timid at NH or at any other AMP. They are in the pleasure business, they won't be offended if you let them know what you want. They either will or will not provide the desired service, but you need to be a bit more aggressive. Especially on your second visit, it was time to find out what they think of you as a customer. After you flip over, make eye contact, give her a smile, and rub her ass or thighs. If that isn't enough to get things started, guide her hand where you want it. Maybe ask if she would mind massaging one more place and indicate where that might be. DO NOT offer a specific tip for this, that puts both you and her at risk. Just say what you would like to happen. And it will.
Decent looking lady?
I got the opportunity to go see her Saturday evening and was presently surprised. She is a white massage therapist and her office is very clean. She gives a good massage and I left happy. She advertises on Craigslist.
Had another season today at NH. They were open so I was a little confused about her statements last week that they may not be open.I would imagine they're just being cautious. Evidently, Lemon was in a much more visible and residential location, and someone obviously complained to LE without any real justification. The news even reported there wasn't much traffic at the place (it had only been open, what, a month?).
Since LE had no strong evidence to arrest anyone at Lemon (otherwise they would have), they simply tracked down the owners and threatened them with legal action if there were any arrests at the place (even though there likely wasn't any real basis for it). LE's goal was to frighten the owners into shutting down the place, and that's exactly what happened. NH was probably expecting the same kind of treatment but, since no one complained, they get to stay open.
It's sad that all LE has to do is contact the owners of a business (any business) and tell them there's suspected illegal activity going on and that the owners will be held liable if anyone is ever arrested at the business. Frankly, that sounds a lot like illegal harassment. Seems like a decent lawyer would have gotten LE to back off on that kind of crap in a hurry. I wonder if they do the same thing with major retailers like Walmart?
Decent looking lady?Yes, I would give her about a 7 or so. She has a very nice body. I paid for the nude massage is I had something to look at.
That makes sense. And at one of my visits to NH she did say that NH is owned by the same people. Shame cause I really liked Coco. Oh well. Booked a session with Sherri for next week. Hopefully that one will work out.
I would imagine they're just being cautious. Evidently, Lemon was in a much more visible and residential location, and someone obviously complained to LE without any real justification. The news even reported there wasn't much traffic at the place (it had only been open, what, a month?).
Since LE had no strong evidence to arrest anyone at Lemon (otherwise they would have), they simply tracked down the owners and threatened them with legal action if there were any arrests at the place (even though there likely wasn't any real basis for it). LE's goal was to frighten the owners into shutting down the place, and that's exactly what happened. NH was probably expecting the same kind of treatment but, since no one complained, they get to stay open.
It's sad that all LE has to do is contact the owners of a business (any business) and tell them there's suspected illegal activity going on and that the owners will be held liable if anyone is ever arrested at the business. Frankly, that sounds a lot like illegal harassment. Seems like a decent lawyer would have gotten LE to back off on that kind of crap in a hurry. I wonder if they do the same thing with major retailers like Walmart?
Member #5324
11-25-15, 01:10
The therapists know why you are there. It's not a coincidence that only guys go to AMPs. They know what you want. They know that they will get a bigger tip if they give you what you want. They want a bigger tip.
So your job is to make them comfortable and show them that you are not LEO so this can happen. Both parties leave happy this way. So do some grabbing and squeezing on the flip. Don't go overboard where they think you are creepy. But do enough that they don't have to worry that you will arrest them.
IceMan2007
11-25-15, 10:39
Yes, I wyould give her about a 7 or so. She has a very nice body. I paid for the nude massage is I had something to look at.The number on CL I texted replied back with wrong number. Amy help. Thanks.
OnlyForMe99
11-25-15, 12:42
Glad to hear NH is still open. Haven't been there in a few months and would love to see Sophia again. I wonder if the level of service is the same since the recent Lemon incident. I'm sure she'd remember me so that may play into it. I just hate to drive an hour for less than the same level of service as before.
Tried her out but the pricing is a bit much for my liking 175 hh included nude HE / HJ no negotiating price is firm unless repeating.
YES I'm ADDICTED.
No just checking out the locations to see which one I like and want to go to. Really wish these AMPs had some younger ladies!
Anyway went to New Impressions on 933 yesterday. Got there about 11:30 just in time to beat the rush. When I left there were 3 waiting in the parking lot. Nice clean place but not a lot of parking as it is like a little strip mall with a nail place on one side and think it was a pizza place on the other. Met at the front desk by three ladies, two were ok one so so. Led to room. Full doors. Nice rooms. Went for the HR. Which has become the normal for me. One masseuse helped me to undress.
Massage starts like normal with one of nicer looking girls. With in about 5 minutes I now have 4 hands. I didn't ask for 4 hands but it was nice. Didn't see who the second masseuse was. They were working on both sides of me and couldn't really lift my head. Very enjoyable experience. After about 30 minutes one leaves the room and left with the more attractive lady. She stumbled around a bit as like she wasn't sure what to do next but then got into the groove. By this time there was a lot of activity at the front door. Allowed some roaming. Tried very hard to provide the massage I wanted but couldn't seem to complete. I don't know, maybe waited to long to begin, or maybe the technique wasn't quite there or maybe I have just had to many massages in a short period of time. LOL.
Tipped like I would for a completed massage and said we will try again next time. She giggled and said yes we will. On the way out she gave me a business card for the business and wrote her cell number on the back and said to call ahead directly next trip. Very friendly lady. Good experience.
So my rankings at this point.
Best on 933- 8.
New Impression- 8.
New Horrizon- 6 good experience there just no extras. Hopefully this will improve after time of closing Lemon goes by.
Yes, I would give her about a 7 or so. She has a very nice body. I paid for the nude massage is I had something to look at.Where is Sherrie's office located? I haven't been able to find it.
TequilaSundae
11-27-15, 13:09
Yes, I would give her about a 7 or so. She has a very nice body. I paid for the nude massage is I had something to look at.Nude massage you say?
Where is Sherrie's office located? I haven't been able to find it.It's in Elkhart. Shoot her a text and set up an appointment. She will send you her address.
I've been following the contributions for some time now. Lots of good advice! Thanks for the good information.
Has anyone tried Oriental Spa in Elkhart? They frequently advertise on Craigslist. But I haven't seen many reviews.
Just more updates on spas.
Best on 933 is still Best. Visited them. Got girl number 2 there. Nice girl not very attractive unfortunately. BUT that girl has some serious skills. At first I thought she was rushing a bit. She kind of goes at you like a wolverine. But then settles in. For those of you that complain about not getting the roll over tease, I'm not completely sure what your talking about but if it is what she spent 5 minuets doing before my turn over. OMG! That blew my mind. In a good way. This girl has skill and the finish was just as good. If her looks were as good as her skills, I would just see if I could live there. LOL.
Also have been to Top. Again a good massage no finish no tease. Nice girls again not a lot in looks. But probably won't go back. Facility was nice and clean but just didn't get the warm and fuzzy here.
Did you get her name? I was there a month ago and it was great almost blew before the flip.
New to the area and new to the hobby, but I thought it was time for me to contribute.
New Horizons in OC is the only establishment I've visited so far. All others I know about are too close to contacts outside the hobby. Was really hoping to try Lemon, but they closed before I could. Would like to try something new and have considered taking a trip to Battle Creek or Grand Rapids.
My first several visits to NH, I drew a older, skinny woman She was very kind, and helped me get over my nervousness. Unfortunately I had to take several months off for health reasons. When I returned last week, none of the girls I had seen before were there. I drew Coco, and left satisfied. She is attractive with a nice body and cute personality. Speaks good english. Good, almost too hard, massage that touched the right places. On the flip, she tried to get a bigger tip to get comfortable, but I didn't need the extra encouragement. I'm looking forward to seeing her again. Total damage for the hour was 60+40.
TequilaSundae
12-04-15, 10:20
Just more updates on spas.
Best on 933 is still Best. Visited them. Got girl number 2 there. Nice girl not very attractive unfortunately. BUT that girl has some serious skills. At first I thought she was rushing a bit. She kind of goes at you like a wolverine. But then settles in. For those of you that complain about not getting the roll over tease, I'm not completely sure what your talking about but if it is what she spent 5 minuets doing before my turn over. OMG! That blew my mind. In a good way. This girl has skill and the finish was just as good. If her looks were as good as her skills, I would just see if I could live there. LOL.
Also have been to Top. Again a good massage no finish no tease. Nice
girls again not a lot in looks. probably won't go back. Facility was nice and clean but just didn't get the warm and fuzzy here.I tried 933 the other night I got the same girl. Not very pretty, short, older, and she went to town. Wolverine about described in. Very hard and methodical. Plates in back well before the flip. Would go back if I know there's a better looking girl. May have to stop for a bit. The Mississippi is catching on.
Did you get her name? I was there a month ago and it was great almost blew before the flip.No unfortunately I didn't get her name. But it was a very interesting trip.
Had the opportunity to go see this young vixen. Had a little mix up with the appointment. I must of had my phone off and didn't get a couple of her texts so she thought I wasn't coming. When I contacted her she told me she filled it. It was no problem that is what I get for turning phone off. She was very apologetic, even though it wasn't her fault and made every effort to get me in. She texted me a little bit later that she had a cancelation and do I want to take it. I said sure.
Very, very nice young lady. We talked quite a bit via text before hand and talked a lot during the massage. Got there. Very good looking young lady. Nice secure office, very clean. Good location. Definitely left very happy.
On a side note. Don't go in there expecting to pay AMP prices. She is higher but well worth it for this 100% American made beauty.
And don't be a dumb ass like me and forget tip money. LOL I said let's not talk about massage prices. And gave her what I had and forgot to leave out a little for a tip at the end. So I maybe banned. LOL. Hopefully not. Definitely a must try and I will be going back.
Member #5324
12-04-15, 23:10
If she charges $175 for a half hour HJ session and then expects a tip on top of that, guys would be crazy to pay that. This is way out of line with market prices. Unless she is a supermodel, that is just too much.
Had the opportunity to go see this young vixen. Had a little mix up with the appointment. I must of had my phone off and didn't get a couple of her texts so she thought I wasn't coming. When I contacted her she told me she filled it. It was no problem that is what I get for turning phone off. She was very apologetic, even though it wasn't her fault and made every effort to get me in. She texted me a little bit later that she had a cancelation and do I want to take it. I said sure.
Very, very nice young lady. We talked quite a bit via text before hand and talked a lot during the massage. Got there. Very good looking young lady. Nice secure office, very clean. Good location. Definitely left very happy.
On a side note. Don't go in there expecting to pay AMP prices. She is higher but well worth it for this 100% American made beauty.
And don't be a dumb ass like me and forget tip money. LOL I said let's not talk about massage prices. And gave her what I had and forgot to leave out a little for a tip at the end. So I maybe banned. LOL. Hopefully not. Definitely a must try and I will be going back.
I was inspired by Noobie67 to try Best on 933. In short, everything that he has posted about this place is spot on!
I've had massages at several places in St. Joseph County, but I haven't tried Best on 933 until now. Frankly, I was intimidated by the fact that it isn't a store front in a plaza, like most places. Stupid me!
A tall, slender, attractive lady. Her name was Li Li, I think. Was the masseuse. The room was clean and comfortable. Her technique was firm and methodical. Really worked out the kinks. On the flip, she had a light touch that was nothing short of phenomenal! I left very happy and I'll definitely be back.
Best on 933 and Best in Granger are apparently owned by the same people. My punch card from Granger for the 10th free massage was honored at 933. Both places are outstanding. Hard to say who is truly *best*.
I was inspired by Noobie67 to try Best on 933. In short, everything that he has posted about this place is spot on!
I've had massages at several places in St. Joseph County, but I haven't tried Best on 933 until now. Frankly, I was intimidated by the fact that it isn't a store front in a plaza, like most places. Stupid me!
A tall, slender, attractive lady. Her name was Li Li, I think. Was the masseuse. The room was clean and comfortable. Her technique was firm and methodical. Really worked out the kinks. On the flip, she had a light touch that was nothing short of phenomenal! I left very happy and I'll definitely be back.
Best on 933 and Best in Granger are apparently owned by the same people. My punch card from Granger for the 10th free massage was honored at 933. Both places are outstanding. Hard to say who is truly *best*.Glad to here about your good time! Guess ill head back there this week always had good experiences there will never forget my first time there fell in love the best tease I have ever had! Don't rember her name but have never seen her since. Any reply about massages are greatly appreciated. Be safe to all.
For all that is holy in this hobby. I found the treasure!
Did capture your attention yet? I know I am new to the hobby but I don't think I will ever go back to any AMPs previously visited by me. Was traveling today and had time to kill in Michigan City at 421 and 40 by the interstate ramp. A little place called sun spa.
Walk in the front door and your in a waiting room. Ring the bell, sit down. A couple minutes latter this hot little number comes out. Body was a 7 or 8 dressed in what I call a tube sock dress. Face was probably a 6.
I'm thinking oh hell it's on. But I still tried to be respectful since it was my first time there.
She asked initially about a shower. I passed. But I will definitely see what that is about next trip.
You can PM for details if you like but I tell ya. I have been driving for 30 minutes and I'm still smiling.
It's a must try and we'll worth the trip. Keep in mind, they only do 30 minuet sessions for 40 but that's all I needed!
I know where you are talking but I've never ventured in. Can you pm me with more details.
So I found myself in LPcnty again. I will try and put more details here as I guess I didn't realize the PMs I would get over the last one. I will leave the name out but with a little effort you can figure out what spot it was.
So I had a couple of hours in between calls and thought what to do. What to do. HHmmm welp guess ill get a massage. LOL don't judge me.
So I thought ok, I want to talk to that girl about a couple things anyway I will just get a massage and shoot the shit while we are getting the massage. So I go. Ring the bell, a couple minutes and the door opens. DAMN IT not the same girl. So we go in the room and I have an older shorter lady said her name was Sophie. Still a rockin body and not terrible to look at. Again very nice short dress on and I'm thinking dang the women here at least take the time to dress up nice here.
So she says you ever been here before. I said yes and told here when and she looked at me like really and I said yes really. I said I had time to kill and I wanted to talk to the girl I saw last visit so I figured I would just get a massage. Ok she not here right now. Ok so ill get a massage. You want shower? Sure why not, I didn't get it yesterday so lets do it. You didn't get shower yesterday? No, I thought I just took a shower I didn't need another one. So ya lets do it. Holy hell I will never pass that up again! I'm lead down the hall to another room all tile with a table and I'm thinking what the hell? So I lay down and get a nifty shower front and back and then standing up. Now I'm thinking, why has someone not told me about this? I have been doing my own showers for years and this is way better.
I get toweled off and start heading back to the room and she says no hunny, you go to sauna for a few minuets. WHAT? Ok. Lead me to another room with a full sauna and I sit in there for a few minuets and she opens the door. Are you ready now? No I could stay in here all day. Well if you want to use your 30 minutes in here you can but. I said ok massage time. So we are talking during the massage and she asks what I got last visit. I said well I don't want to speak out of line but I was pretty impressed with what I got last visit. She said who did you have, I said I thought it was Li but I was more than a little side tracked when she mentioned her name. She says I think it was Tia. I said hell I don't know.
So she said what do think I said what ever, I don't know that all the equipment is working again yet. But go for it. I said I like to be considerate to you so if there is a yellow pages in here I will need to see it before my fingers can do the walking. With in seconds I saw the yellow pages, the full city addition of the yellow pages. So ok I know where things stand. I found the artillery section and check out the torpedos, checked out the bombay doors on both sides of the plane. And we did discover that the equipment was fully operational.
Although she never asked for anything I did make a nice donation to a local charity and after that I didn't even have to dress myself. First time I can remember that I didn't have to tie my own shoes. Got a water and a nice smooch on the way out.
You don't hear from me again, you can assume that I passed way in an AMP somewhere in this world.
So this real messed with my mind.
And seriously I have posted to much and going to slow down a bit now that I have visited all but a couple places once.
Anyway after all the festivities this week I thought man I just need to relax. Do I need to tell you what I did? I didn't think so.
So anyway I go see my favorite girl Coco over at NH. I think I have come to the realization that there are no extras to be had over there but that's ok. Some times you just want a Damn good massage and Cocos always been my favorite. So I go see her. She says do you want to try the new girl today. I said well I was hopping for you but what ever.
So she comes in and we get all ready and I'm face down on the table and she says. So. How did you like Sun spa?. I said WTF? Yes actually said WTF? And she giggles. I was like well it is a completely different experience over there. How did you know? Giggles and says I'm not telling. So now I'm racking my brain trying to figure it out. Coco knows my first name but the other girls don't. If she reads this board I don't think she could identify me, until this post anyway, which really isn't a big deal.
In the mean time the new girl comes in and it turns into like a 4 hands training session which was nice but I really need to learn their language so I can figure out what they were talking about.
So now I'm thinking are the two of them going to torcher me? Nah I wouldn't of ever said anything bad about Coco so now I'm back to how in the hell she knew I was over there.
We always cut the massage short by like 5 or 10 minutes so we can just sit there and shoot the shit and I finally said you had to be there. That's the only way you would know. She giggled and again said I'm not telling. So I said well let me say this. If you ever decide to do those kind of massages just let me know I'll be the first inline.
So I assume that while we are here talking about them. They are somewhere talking about us.
Member #5324
12-11-15, 00:23
I have two observations.
1) your post on Sun Spa makes me think they have changed their model. For years they were very hard negotiators and demanded cash upfront before any fun. I got fed up with that aspect and quit going. You said no negotiations beforehand on either visit. If they have moved to that and now trust a monger to give a fair tip for services received, I'll go back regularly again.
2). You have been to Osceola three times with no playtime after the flip? That is also a change. Is this true for other guys? I always got a good massage there and left happy. But this was before the trouble in Elkhart at their sister spa.
Bonus observation: you are running thru some serious cash with your new hobby. Enjoy.
So this real messed with my mind.
And seriously I have posted to much and going to slow down a bit now that I have visited all but a couple places once.
Anyway after all the festivities this week I thought man I just need to relax. Do I need to tell you what I did? I didn't think so.
So anyway I go see my favorite girl Coco over at NH. I think I have come to the realization that there are no extras to be had over there but that's ok. Some times you just want a Damn good massage and Cocos always been my favorite. So I go see her. She says do you want to try the new girl today. I said well I was hopping for you but what ever.
So she comes in and we get all ready and I'm face down on the table and she says. So. How did you like Sun spa?. I said WTF? Yes actually said WTF? And she giggles. I was like well it is a completely different experience over there. How did you know? Giggles and says I'm not telling. So now I'm racking my brain trying to figure it out. Coco knows my first name but the other girls don't. If she reads this board I don't think she could identify me, until this post anyway, which really isn't a big deal.
In the mean time the new girl comes in and it turns into like a 4 hands training session which was nice but I really need to learn their language so I can figure out what they were talking about.
So now I'm thinking are the two of them going to torcher me? Nah I wouldn't of ever said anything bad about Coco so now I'm back to how in the hell she knew I was over there.
We always cut the massage short by like 5 or 10 minutes so we can just sit there and shoot the shit and I finally said you had to be there. That's the only way you would know. She giggled and again said I'm not telling. So I said well let me say this. If you ever decide to do those kind of massages just let me know I'll be the first inline.
So I assume that while we are here talking about them. They are somewhere talking about us.
2). You have been to Osceola three times with no playtime after the flip? That is also a change. Is this true for other guys? I always got a good massage there and left happy. But this was before the trouble in Elkhart at their sister spa.I've been to Osceola 4 or 5 times and have left happy every time as well. The last time I went was (I believe) right before the sister spa got in trouble, not sure if they've changed because of that.
BlackWookie
12-11-15, 20:57
I can also ad that I have always left happy when I have visited this place. Haven't been to sun in awhile always left happy but always had to tip before hand.
I've been to Osceola 4 or 5 times and have left happy every time as well. The last time I went was (I believe) right before the sister spa got in trouble, not sure if they've changed because of that..
That is correct. Both times I've been there, no negotiations up front, during or after.
I won't tell you how many times I've been to NH in the OC but it is more than you stated. LOL and have never got what I really wanted there. I still love the place though.
Yes I have invested a little chunk in the hobby in a short period of time but that was the plan. By the end of the month though it will go to a much more reasonable level. LOL this was my present to myself. LOL.
I have two observations.
1) your post on Sun Spa makes me think they have changed their model. For years they were very hard negotiators and demanded cash upfront before any fun. I got fed up with that aspect and quit going. You said no negotiations beforehand on either visit. If they have moved to that and now trust a monger to give a fair tip for services received, I'll go back regularly again.
2). You have been to Osceola three times with no playtime after the flip? That is also a change. Is this true for other guys? I always got a good massage there and left happy. But this was before the trouble in Elkhart at their sister spa.
Bonus observation: you are running thru some serious cash with your new hobby. Enjoy.
So it is now time to slow a bit and go into a more reasonable schedule of visits. But I felt the need to post one more time.
The AMP Newbie award goes to.
Spa of the year.
Sun spa MC. Saw Tia today. Was the second time for her. Great girl! Both girls that I have had there were great. Actually had a really nice conversation with her today. If your a jerky she will you she no speak english. But she actually speaks pretty good english. LOL. Anyway with the extras like a table shower and full running sauna. No negotiations and just an overall great time.
Honorable mention.
New Horizon OC. Even though currently you can't get everything you want Coco and the girls still show you a good time.
Runner up and best tease award.
Best on 933 . Another good spot the only real downfall to this place is the girls don't seem to get very personable with you. Otherwise this is still a pretty good spot.
New impression would be next on 933 they tried hard there but again just couldn't really connect with them. And multiple times the suggested helping myself out. Ya no that's not what I'm here for.
Top oriental. . nice girls but again just didn't connect with them. I don't really like the location either.
Any not mentioned are either not worth mentioning or I haven't been there. I was originally going to try and hit them all but I have found my top two and it's time to slow down.
Oh and I did mention to Tia about how Coco knew I was over there and she just giggled.
Jim Steele
12-15-15, 01:02
If you are talking about coco at nh that has a low and velvety voice, often says Sir, is short and skinny, she has excellent English and probably reads this site. She knows how to please. Show where it hurts more clearly and she will help release the tension effectively. She is a vet and deserves a solid tip.
Jim Steele
12-15-15, 01:05
Never been there. The stories from years ago put me off.
Plus back then it was a mixed staff from what I read.
I am not into diversity. Asian is plenty good, no need for any others.
I need a solid massage, no joke, or I would not go.
I don't have time to waste.
Jim Steele
12-15-15, 01:20
Since the I read here that new management took over best, I returned.
I have always enjoyed the granger outfit and when they took over Top on hickory I tried it and was pleased.
The 2 ladies who are at top really give me great massage. The one who wears heels speaks English well. I have lots of aches and pains and granger top and best all seem to share my favorite style. Which is basically "tui na. " Anyhow I tried Best again- with the name of two diff girls on the mama L. 's recommendation and I was most pleased. Any of these three places provide solid value and consistent release of built up tensions.
I never "negotiate" anything as I would consider that improper. They know when I come in that I will tip well. I don't know how they know this but they do. I try and match their generosity with my own.
I find nearly every masseuse I have had here at an AMP the past year to be very kind. The temperament of these ladies who work with the three places under same management is always professional and most satisfactory. I prefer all the ladies to be at least 35 and over 40 is most preferable. I want a lady who knows what to do, who can clear blockages and get the energy moving. The last thing I will say is that my most amazing moments have probably been when they do my feet. No kidding I just love that.
Jim Steele
12-15-15, 01:27
What I am getting from noob, and his many good reports, is what I have been telling people for years, and that these places are not just jack-shacks.
Maybe they are in other places around the country but in St Joe county they are serious massage providers.
The style of massage is different from a westerner. It is certainly not for puritans. But are we not told all the time that we are to appreciate "cultural diversity?" AMPs are my dose of it and I consider myself fortunate to participate.
Jim Steele
12-15-15, 10:53
I recently read a "study" of this website that was utterly judgmental trash. I won't link to it, as it was filled with puritanical feminist claptrap. You can imagine.
Here however is the counterpoint to this. Sex is part of life. Not all sex follows the path that feminists and puritans approve. But we are people and sex is part of life. An important part. What happens in a private room is nobody's business? That's the rule for homosexuals but what about heteros. So there is all this "policing" nonsense.
Read this and it will "blow" your mind about the therapeutic value of sex.
http://bioethics.northwestern.edu/atrium/articles/issue12/peace.html
Jim your right. I have not had one bad experience anywhere I have been and tip all favorably. Depending on what your looking for each place has their own little twist. But I have gotten a great massage every where I have been.
New horizons has a new girl now along with Coco. She does a fantastic job!
Don't worry Coco. Your still my girl! And I know now that you are watching. LOL.
Member #5324
12-15-15, 23:55
Please give Noobie a HJ! I think he deserves it by now. He is your biggest fan. Treat him well please.
Please give Noobie a HJ! I think he deserves it by now. He is your biggest fan. Treat him well please.HA! I'm pushing the LIKE button.
Ever had someone in another room freak you out enough that you just said no not today?
WTF. That dude ruined my whole day. Just the way he talked and conducted himself made me think popo. Ggrrr.
This could have been a glorious day too.
Any new talent at best? In the past week.
TequilaSundae
12-23-15, 12:29
Jim your right. I have not had one bad experience anywhere I have been and tip all favorably. Depending on what your looking for each place has their own little twist. But I have gotten a great massage every where I have been.
New horizons has a new girl now along with Coco. She does a fantastic job!
Don't worry Coco. Your still my girl! And I know now that you are watching. LOL.I had a girl named Anna last week. Very nice.
Jim Steele
12-23-15, 19:39
Ever had someone in another room freak you out enough that you just said no not today?
WTF. That dude ruined my whole day. Just the way he talked and conducted himself ....Describe conduct, identify location? Without violating forum rules on personally identifiable information of course.
Jim Steele
12-23-15, 19:57
Some people may wonder why go to a place like this, it's all men, must be naughty, etc. Putting aside the purittanical views of those inclined to such nasty cynicism, here is a thought about the alternatives.
I read a good online thing about massage to relieve pain.
Www. Massage* com / benefits-of-massage-therapy / manage-pain-of-chronic-conditions. Aspx.
(I blanked out the name because I don't want to talk about any particular place, just generalities here).
I read that and thought hmm, that's great, gee I just saw such a place like at the mall.
I bought some massages from the fancy place in the mall. I gave them as a gift, didn't use. But here are a couple downsides that I learned.
1--required to sign a silly contract for package deals that smells like one of those bogus health club deals. SPARE ME. I don't want to be a member I just want a massage. If they are going to make me sign some fancy fine print bs and waivers count me out. I'd rather show up at the asian place and pay cash and skip the paperwork.
2-- 80 and hour versus 60. Isn't this enough a reason right there?
3-- difficulty scheduling. Easier to walk into the asian massage place.
4-- frou frou. Who needs to pay for the decorations. Sparse decorations as fine so long as the place is clean and hygenic. All asian places I have seen here have been clean and hygenic. I will say sometimes they smell like they just had lunch but that is not a matter of hygiene.
5-- quality. Let's get this clear, these asian women are trained in massage too, and they have experience, and experience at bodywork mostly on men. Men and women are different, men may require more pressure or may have more problems related to occupational hazards. These experienced asian women are quite simply better at what we need. Nothing against our fine american women but the experience level and methods are superior at the asian establishments.
Now that is enough right there to keep me going to asian places. Any other matters regardless.
I can't speak to elkhart county, because I never go over there. But in st joe county, if LE is thinking of maybe harassing these businesses, they need to know that we customers are citizens too and have a legit use and will vote and complain and speak our minds. Personally I could care less who knows that I go to them, I tell everybody I know how great they are.
Describe conduct, identify location? Without violating forum rules on personally identifiable information of course.Coco knows and could tell you about it. He set my alarm off and I think he had her on alert too. These girls aren't dumb. They know how to handle situations. But this was an older guy. At the time I had the new girl. I think her name is anna.
Anyway this guy came in and was loud from the time he walked through the door. Kind of passed me off cause I was getting 4 hands at the time.
Coco took him to the room across from mine and he was fishing from the word go and doing it loudly. Talking about it was his first time there but use to go to the elkhart one all the time. Then I could hear him talking about money.
Anna doesn't speak a lot of English but she knew I had become uncomfortable. Coco came back into my room a couple times and I told her that dude isn't right. She agreed. But again she isn't dumb and knows how to handle things but the the ass clown ruined my day that day. LOL.
Jim Steele
12-26-15, 00:21
You're right they are clever and capable of handling oddballs.
I think it must be part of the AMP training curriculum.
Loud is bad form. Maybe he was just an idiot.
The average cop is not that stupid, if he was trying to entrap, likely it would be subtler.
I think probably just a loudmouth fool.
Fools & nuts should stay away from these places. They ruin the vibe.
The only transaction I have ever done is the hourly rate for the massage.
I always leave a tip, and it just depends on whether or not I am pleased.
Simple as that.
Purely customary and voluntary gratuity.
Also, I kind of dislike the setup of The Osceola place.
But nothing against the ladies.
I had a great scalp& skull massage recently. Got to love the scalp scratching, wow.
When they press the occipital process in back- I think that's what it's called -- I just feel the tension draining out.
Of my neck. On the flip when they tug the skull backward by the bridge. Eyebrow area- same effect. Really straightens me out.
Well. Started in Osceola. Older Mamasan that didn't do much for me and a wait so I moved on. Any input on the girls that are here during the day? The 1st time I went I had a cute 30 +/- yo but it has been a little "rough" lately. ? Then Granger and a 20 minute wait. I figured I could be on 933 be then so I went on over. My day turned into a 2 hr excursion!
Yeeshee? Was nice but nothing to make me want to return. Were are all the younger, frisky ladies? Man, I need to find one steady friend, me thinks. Feel free to PM if you like.
Well. Started in Osceola. Older Mamasan that didn't do much for me and a wait so I moved on. Any input on the girls that are here during the day? The 1st time I went I had a cute 30 +/- yo but it has been a little "rough" lately. ? Then Granger and a 20 minute wait. I figured I could be on 933 be then so I went on over. My day turned into a 2 hr excursion!
Yeeshee? Was nice but nothing to make me want to return. Were are all the younger, frisky ladies? Man, I need to find one steady friend, me thinks. Feel free to PM if you like.Well this is a place this newbie knows a little about. What time were you there? NH in OC is one of my favorite places. I go during the day. Have never seen an older mamasan there. It's always coco who is a late 20's little hottie. And I believe I was told (I think it's anna) the taller hottie is cocos sister. So unless someone was sick and they had to bring in a sub or something. From what I have seen, NH has the two hottest. Then probably Sun the probably best. I MO.
Well. Started in Osceola. Older Mamasan that didn't do much for me and a wait so I moved on. Any input on the girls that are here during the day? The 1st time I went I had a cute 30 +/- yo but it has been a little "rough" lately. ? Then Granger and a 20 minute wait. I figured I could be on 933 be then so I went on over. My day turned into a 2 hr excursion!
Yeeshee? Was nice but nothing to make me want to return. Were are all the younger, frisky ladies? Man, I need to find one steady friend, me thinks. Feel free to PM if you like.If you pick one where you think you might be interested in making a friend, try offering her a few extras, like offering to run her to the store or on an errand she mentions during the massage. After establishing a friendly relationship try moving forward. Due to the current climate, don't try for something in house, offer to make her dinner or something at your place, provided this is an option for you. Otherwise try a night out away from the shop. One warning, she might decide to try and take this farther and then its your call. Plenty of other posts on here about getting to close to a provider.
Had one of the worst massages if my life at Best Chinese. I have never had a problem there before until now. I had a new girl lead me into a room who I thought was not very attractive at all. (I hate to judge because most of these girls are really nice) to top things off she didn't have a very good attitude. Her massage was very rough and downright painful and there was no tease before the flip. After the flip it was as if she was in a race to the finish line. I tipped 20 and will refuse to see her again. I hope this isn't the help I can expect to find there now because I will go elsewhere.
Got to meet Anna at NH. Good strong hands and very nice. Access to the twins.
CoCo is still my superstar but will repeat.
Got to meet Anna at NH. Good strong hands and very nice. Access to the twins.
CoCo is still my superstar but will repeat.Say wwwhhaatttt? LOL.
Member #5324
01-01-16, 02:37
In 2008, there were no AMPs in the South Bend area. You had to go to Michigan City or Lake Station for a massage. That changed around 2010 when Judy opened her place on Michigan Avenue. Now she has sold it and who knows if it is any good, nobody posts about it. Then City Massage on 933 had its glorious run, wow what a great time there. Now there are about ten places to choose from All are reliable and safe as far as I am concerned. We all have our favorites. Or course, if you are a trusted regular, things open up. But compared to a few years ago, South Bend is not bad at all for the AMP scene.
Had one of the worst massages if my life at Best Chinese. I have never had a problem there before until now. I had a new girl lead me into a room who I thought was not very attractive at all. (I hate to judge because most of these girls are really nice) to top things off she didn't have a very good attitude. Her massage was very rough and downright painful and there was no tease before the flip. After the flip it was as if she was in a race to the finish line. I tipped 20 and will refuse to see her again. I hope this isn't the help I can expect to find there now because I will go elsewhere.I think I must've had that same therapist, except that my dream was worse than yours. She was demanding for tips throughout the massage. Her massage was as bad as you describe. I let her know that I didn't like it. Left without leaving a tip! If I go back there and she is there, I'll ask for another, or just walk out.
Member #5324
01-02-16, 13:08
Fur Freak and Aniles, thanks for the reports. It's great to know who to avoid as much as it is to know who is a good therapist. There are two Best Chinese places, one in Granger and one on 933 near the state line. Which one is she at? If you don't mind PMing me a name, that would be helpful too. They change therapists frequently at both spots, so it's hard to figure out which one you guys went to.
I think I must've had that same therapist, except that my dream was worse than yours. She was demanding for tips throughout the massage. Her massage was as bad as you describe. I let her know that I didn't like it. Left without leaving a tip! If I go back there and she is there, I'll ask for another, or just walk out.
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No you didn't.
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It would let me do the post quoted from below.
Could you PM with what was wrong. Was I just because it was in Chinese? I didn't see a rule about only posting in English but if I missed that I apologize.
TheMarkster
01-04-16, 23:00
Anyone know if sophia still at nh in osceiola? If so compare notes on other girls, coco and anna if you dream of them. I have good dream of sophia, pm me.
Fur Freak and Aniles, thanks for the reports. It's great to know who to avoid as much as it is to know who is a good therapist. There are two Best Chinese places, one in Granger and one on 933 near the state line. Which one is she at? If you don't mind PMing me a name, that would be helpful too. They change therapists frequently at both spots, so it's hard to figure out which one you guys went to.It was the one on 933. Usually a great place though.
Just because I have been getting some PMs on this. Guys there was nothing detailed or anything in that post. I was simply telling coco, thank you for the birthday massage. I had written it in Chinese as I know she browses the board on occasion. I can only assume I broke a rule by writing it in another language.
Just because I have been getting some PMs on this. Guys there was nothing detailed or anything in that post. I was simply telling coco, thank you for the birthday massage. I had written it in Chinese as I know she browses the board on occasion. I can only assume I broke a rule by writing it in another language.http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=ForumRules#postingguidelines.
Posting not in English is listed under Spam in that guideline. I suspect that was it. I'm guessing that when you wrote you hoped you got that right, you were talking about technically pasting in the Chinese characters, and when Admin2 responded that you didn't, he was talking about that policy.
Only a guess, though. Probably not worth spending any more pixels on.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/custompages.php?pageid=ForumRules#postingguidelines.
Posting not in English is listed under Spam in that guideline. I suspect that was it. I'm guessing that when you wrote you hoped you got that right, you were talking about technically pasting in the Chinese characters, and when Admin2 responded that you didn't, he was talking about that policy.
Only a guess, though. Probably not worth spending any more pixels on.Aahh good catch, I didn't look in that section. Not that it was a big deal or anything, it was just driving me crazy on trying to find it. HA!
Thanks!
I decided to give it another chance since I don't give up very easily. When I walked in I saw the same girl. From my look I think she could tell I was not going to use her. Another girl named Jessie led me back instead. I did not recognize her either so I was nervous. I can tell you this she is probably now my new favorite. She has a unique soft yet hard touch that she can turn on and off at any second. The tease before the flip made we just about jump out of my skin. I highly recommend. I wish I knew the other girls name but I don't.
Member #5202
01-08-16, 19:37
Anyone know if sophia still at nh in osceiola? If so compare notes on other girls, coco and anna if you dream of them. I have good dream of sophia, pm me.Yes! I am glad to say she is still there. I have been away from the hobby since September but she remembered me well and we picked up where we left off like I had just seen her yesterday. Pm me for details.
TequilaSundae
01-10-16, 20:25
Yes! I am glad to say she is still there. I have been away from the hobby since September but she remembered me well and we picked up where we left off like I had just seen her yesterday. Pm me for details.I had sophia on my 4th visit there. She was fun, spoke decent english and was a bit of a joker. Did start negotiating when it came 'time' for the HE. Could have gone full nude but was too rich for my blood. She climbed on my back and massaged me with her knees. Too hard in some spots (dug finger into my heel, I have Plantar Fascitis so that HURT) but otherwise great massage.
Jim Steele
01-11-16, 18:58
I wonder if the sophia that was at NH is the one that is now at Best on 933. ?
Likewise when I hear talk about coco, the one I knew was very petite, had a gravelly voice, short hair, spoke english well, but she was well into her 40's. I have not been to NH in quite some time. Not a convenient location, and I don't like the draped doors.
I wonder if the sophia that was at NH is the one that is now at Best on 933. ?
Likewise when I hear talk about coco, the one I knew was very petite, had a gravelly voice, short hair, spoke english well, but she was well into her 40's. I have not been to NH in quite some time. Not a convenient location, and I don't like the draped doors.The Sophia at NH is still at NH, and as amazing as ever. Had a very recent appointment, best yet.
Member #5061
01-28-16, 14:12
Hi folks,
As a recent arrival to the region this forum has helped my exploration. The views from Jim Steele and Noobie67 have been especially helpful. Anyway, 'about time for me to start contributing.
Unfortunately, my first report is not a favorable one: I visited Sherrie after seeing reports here. I agree with Noobie67 that it's a nice, clean, secure office in a good location. Also a very direct and professional provider. Very clear about prices, options, etc.
However, I can't recommend the service nor the prices. She's very friendly, talkative, and fit but is not young or very attractive IMO. Probably 50's. Her general massage skill is way below many Asian therapists in the region but her prices are much higher. The additional massage features were also done poorly, with very little teasing or creativity. Generally just kind of rough and rapid, and not worth the extreme prices. You can pay even higher prices for her various options, up to something similar to Nuru. So if the downsides I mentioned don't deter you, you may enjoy her various $$$ options. Note this is not a BJ, FS, etc. Business. Just massage.
So, overall I wouldn't recommend, but it was definitely an uncommon experience to be carrying on a full, native English conversation the whole time.
Had the opportunity to go see this young vixen. Had a little mix up with the appointment. I must of had my phone off and didn't get a couple of her texts so she thought I wasn't coming. When I contacted her she told me she filled it. It was no problem that is what I get for turning phone off. She was very apologetic, even though it wasn't her fault and made every effort to get me in. She texted me a little bit later that she had a cancelation and do I want to take it. I said sure.
Very, very nice young lady. We talked quite a bit via text before hand and talked a lot during the massage. Got there. Very good looking young lady. Nice secure office, very clean. Good location. Definitely left very happy.
On a side note. Don't go in there expecting to pay AMP prices. She is higher but well worth it for this 100% American made beauty.
And don't be a dumb ass like me and forget tip money. LOL I said let's not talk about massage prices. And gave her what I had and forgot to leave out a little for a tip at the end. So I maybe banned. LOL. Hopefully not. Definitely a must try and I will be going back.
If she charges $175 for a half hour HJ session and then expects a tip on top of that, guys would be crazy to pay that. This is way out of line with market prices. Unless she is a supermodel, that is just too much.
Tried her out but the pricing is a bit much for my liking 175 hh included nude HE / HJ no negotiating price is firm unless repeating.
Stopped by in the afternoon and asked if Anna was available. I was talking to her. Very tall, slender, attractive in my eyes. As with all Asian women, I refuse to guess ages as they're always older than they look.
I popped for the hour, and man was I glad. I've had hellish stress and lots of road time for months, and it's been taking its toll. She is trained in massage, and damn she's good. Great touch, requests feedback for too hard, not hard enough, etc. A real pro who made sure I was completely relaxed when I left. I will sleep well tonight.
She's a sweetie also. Got a couple warm hugs from her on the way out; just because, apparently. Take good care of this amazing woman.
Jim Steele
01-29-16, 20:33
Conversation the whole time in English with a 50 year old, with inferior massage skills? Sounds awful. LOL.
You could have gone to the mall and had the same thing with a properly clothed 30 year old for half the price.
Probably had a better masssage, and rubbed one out yourself.
Thanks for the report nonetheless and cheers.
So it is time. I haven't posted about NH in some time. It has actually been 3 or 4 weeks since I have been able to go there. I hopping at this point Coco is thinking, oh shit what is he going to say. LOL.
Don't get me wrong, I have not had a bad massage anywhere I have went to in the area, but I'm telling you. Invest a little time here. Let Coco and Anna get to know you.
I have more fun at this place. It's like going to get a massage from two hot friends. Whether it is Coco or Anna giving the massage it is always going to be great. The conversation is always fun. Coco has pretty good english, Anna is a little more limited on her english but that is part of the fun sometimes is trying to figure it out. And sometimes I say what? What? Just to screw with them because I understood the first time.
Both are very good at asking if the massage is to hard or too soft and actual listen and adjust depending on your response.
So I am just saying. If your respectful and put a little time in you will find that this is a fun place to go and much better than some of the other places that just want to get you in and get you out.
The Noob.
Member #5061
02-03-16, 20:23
Yeah, I didn't want to be too harsh since she's clearly trying. But it was terrible and I would have preferred to spend the $ on airport chair massages.
A skilled massage is probably 80% of the value for me. So when it's terrible, there's pretty much no redemption. An attractive MT is always nice, but I'll gladly trade that for some real massage skill. I'll share some of my favorites shortly.
- Antic.
Conversation the whole time in English with a 50 year old, with inferior massage skills? Sounds awful. LOL.
You could have gone to the mall and had the same thing with a properly clothed 30 year old for half the price.
Probably had a better masssage, and rubbed one out yourself.
Thanks for the report nonetheless and cheers.
Member #5061
02-04-16, 19:04
Overall I recommend this place pretty highly. The location is convenient, a strip mall with several businesses and parking both in front and around back. Given its prior incarnation, the neighbors assume the worst of the massage patrons and providers so expect some glares. LOL. Generally a clean, organized establishment with courteous staff. Full walled rooms, doors, music, hot towels, etc.
They have a shower (vertical), which is nice for cleaning up before and / or after. The massages are skilled and use the full hour. Handwork is the additional massage feature, provided at closing without negotiation or drama. Of the two providers I'm familiar with, I suggest the taller of the two: an excellent foot massage and a creative prologue to the handwork.
To my knowledge, they aren't headed toward what closed the prior incarnation of this spot, so manage your expectations accordingly. Hopefully they stick around long enough for all the neighbors to get accustomed or, better yet, become customers!
- Antic.
Member #5061
02-04-16, 19:16
Noob, you're well traveled in recent months and from your posts it's clear that NH is a favorite. You obviously recommend the providers, but what's your take on the location compared to others? Unless my memory is failing me, they're a curtains-not-doors establishment and that just kind of sours the ambiance for me. Your two cents?
- Antic.
So it is time. I haven't posted about NH in some time. It has actually been 3 or 4 weeks since I have been able to go there. I hopping at this point Coco is thinking, oh shit what is he going to say. LOL.
Don't get me wrong, I have not had a bad massage anywhere I have went to in the area, but I'm telling you. Invest a little time here. Let Coco and Anna get to know you.
I have more fun at this place. It's like going to get a massage from two hot friends. Whether it is Coco or Anna giving the massage it is always going to be great. The conversation is always fun. Coco has pretty good english, Anna is a little more limited on her english but that is part of the fun sometimes is trying to figure it out. And sometimes I say what? What? Just to screw with them because I understood the first time.
Both are very good at asking if the massage is to hard or too soft and actual listen and adjust depending on your response.
So I am just saying. If your respectful and put a little time in you will find that this is a fun place to go and much better than some of the other places that just want to get you in and get you out.
The Noob.
Went to Best Massage in Granger today. I've been a regular customer and I always had a good massage there. Unfortunately, today they let me down.
I got a new girl. I didn't catch her name: it was Ni Ni or something like that. Long hair, probably mid 30's. She was very friendly and giggled a lot. It was pretty clear from the beginning that she didn't know what she was doing. She seemed to be in a big hurry and her massage consisted mostly of random slapping and pounding. She used almost no lotion or oil. Just a little on my shoulders and back. No happiness to be found. I'm not even sure that I got my full hour.
The whole experience was not what I have come to expect at Best. I hope that the people who run the place see this post and fix things quickly. Otherwise, I will be looking or a new place to take my business.
I went to NH for the first time today after not being able to get a hold of a provider that I have been trying to meet.
Anyway, I have been to Granger and Yellow Moon so far and have had pretty good experiences at both of those. But nothing compared to me meeting Coco today at NH. Wow! That was the best massage I have ever had! We had some fun afterwards too.
Thanks for a great first experience if you read this Coco. I will be back.
Member #5061
02-04-16, 23:53
Couldn't find much info about this location so decided to TOFTT. Dropped in late evening and no one was at the front desk so I took a seat to wait. Waited, and waited. Must have been 30 minutes before I finally gave up and left. Never saw anyone, although someone was walking around upstairs and the adjoining nail salon had customers. I'm not sure about the connection between the massage provider and the nail salon. They are separate addresses and businesses, but in the same building and very similar names. Didn't want to barge into the nail salon asking questions, so I bailed.
A few observations though: The massage therapist here also has a solo practice in Goshen. The layout is pretty small and open, with one entry / main area where it looks like foot massages happen and two massage rooms that open directly into the main area. A separate bathroom, that I think had a shower (upright). Pretty clean location, but the flowery air freshener or incense was a bit strong.
So, no details on the massage here unfortunately. Any info from others is welcome, and I may try to go back again, although there are plenty of other places that actually have someone to greet you when the business is open!
- Antic.
I don't know if this place was open, but a few months back I had the four hand massage. It was very different, not as therapeutic, more sensual. And yet, No HE, but worthwhile and per the taoist notion of conserving vital energies, exhilarating. I felt my testosterone level was elevated rather than sapped. Again not sure if this place is still open, but I thought it was kind of fun.
Saw these two ads and wondered if they were the same person or related. Locations are close in proximity, both ads are very similar in style and wording, and one ad is open Mon. / Tues. / wed and the other thurs / Fri. / sat.
http://southbend.craigslist.org/thp/5042416491.html (Mon. / Tues. / wed) middlebury st goshen.
http://southbend.craigslist.org/thp/5042446685.html (thurs / Fri. / sat) main st misha.
Thanks! Going to try both out soon and see if they are indeed related. Will report when I do.
Member #5061
02-05-16, 00:28
Was getting ready to post on this place, then saw Ts1976's report. Sorry to hear about your bad experience. I'll make sure to avoid long-haired NiNi. Let's hope she gets some on-the-job training fast!
My imagination here has been outstanding. It's always been the same MT (starts with J) since the first visit, and she has a fantastic, friendly disposition, excellent massage skills, and is fit and attractive. Additional massage features include a creative prologue from behind and a closing with creative, varied handwork. Really just great overall. A nice layout, clean and organized establishment, with amenities like hot towels, heated table, etc.
The construction of the rooms is a bit shoddy, looks like they didn't get the walls quite to the ceiling and just caulked the gaps. I wish they had a shower to wash off the oil afterward, but that's just my preference and the great massage more than compensates.
So, with Ts1976's report, it's clear that YMMV and choice of MT matters.
One final point: The adjoining business is an antique furniture restoration boutique owned by a Christian woman (yes, weird that I know this but it's true) so I worry a little about this neighbor eventually making a fuss. Luckily, that boutique isn't open every day so MT sessions can be planned accordingly. Happy to hear thoughts on this concern from others. Maybe my worry is unwarranted. But I like to do what I can to help avoid problems with the neighbors. It seems like neighbor complaints are the number one way for MT establishment to close.
- Antic.
Went to Best Massage in Granger today. I've been a regular customer and I always had a good massage there. Unfortunately, today they let me down.
I got a new girl. I didn't catch her name: it was Ni Ni or something like that. Long hair, probably mid 30's. She was very friendly and giggled a lot. It was pretty clear from the beginning that she didn't know what she was doing. She seemed to be in a big hurry and her massage consisted mostly of random slapping and pounding. She used almost no lotion or oil. Just a little on my shoulders and back. No happiness to be found. I'm not even sure that I got my full hour.
The whole experience was not what I have come to expect at Best. I hope that the people who run the place see this post and fix things quickly. Otherwise, I will be looking or a new place to take my business.
Noob, you're well traveled in recent months and from your posts it's clear that NH is a favorite. You obviously recommend the providers, but what's your take on the location compared to others? Unless my memory is failing me, they're a curtains-not-doors establishment and that just kind of sours the ambiance for me. Your two cents?
- Antic.No, the curtains do not really bother me. There are doors also but they generally don't close them so coco and Anna can communicate with each other. What bothers me is the post above, reading about what he did on his first visit. Coco we need to talk. LOL.
Each place has its own pros and cons. NH is one of the rare places that I fit on the table. Other places my feet dangle off the end and I hate that. The rooms are a little small. That doesn't bother me I just remember I was in there once before Anna started there, I had the other girl that was there, she was doing the finger snap thing on my fingers and bashed her hand into the wall. I know that had to hurt like hell. I was even ready to cancel the rest of the massage but she finished like a trooper.
Thank you Antic.
Your excellent post got me wondering if the upcoming Chinese New Year may have had something to do with my poor experience. Could it be that the more experienced MTs are on vacation? YMMV. So true!
I haven't seen a lot of postings on this site about Mirage in Mishawaka. I see many advertisements on the web, so I thought I'd TOFTT and check them out.
Mirage is a very clean, organized, and well maintained establishment. I was greeted by a short, young, and pretty lady with good English skills. She was friendly, flirty, and made me feel like she had been waiting all day just to see me. Unfortunately, I don't recall her name.
Her massage skills were fantastic. She demonstrated a firm, artistic technique and frequently asked if she was applying the right pressure. At one point, she used hot stones, which really relaxed my sore back. The massage included quite a bit of teasing, but no happiness was had at the end.
Mr. Steele makes a good point in his earlier post: Mirage serves a niche market by providing a pure therapeutic massage at prices that compete with the other Asian places in town. Recommended. Just don't expect any extras.
Member #5061
02-05-16, 23:25
Ts1976, your suggestion made me stop and think, particularly given my very recent imagination about the very optical illusion you reported on next.
This is a place I've gotten to know pretty well, and although my imagination matches yours and Senor Steele's, I enjoy it's unique but limited style. The two youngish, shorter MTs have both proven very skilled, enthusiastic, friendly, and fun. Only on one occasion have I find one in a bad mood, but even then the massage was above average.
And then, during this "Year of the Monkey" season I imagined arriving to meet someone totally new. Taller, older, longer hair. Virtually no English, very little skill, dull attitude, and near total lack of creativity. I should have made a you-turn upon arrival, but foolishly hoped she was just a substitute greeter. Instead, it seemed like no one else was there. Normally you see one or two other MTs in the staff lounge, laundry, etc. But not this day. Place was dead, and this on a day / time that usually has other patrons.
So, one more anecdote for your Chinese New Year theory. It's some consolation, although these substitutes need to come with a 50% (or greater) discount. Here's to the Monkey, may his season of celebration come rapidly to a close!
Anyone seen substitute teachers lately?
- Antic.
Thank you Antic.
Your excellent post got me wondering if the upcoming Chinese New Year may have had something to do with my poor experience. Could it be that the more experienced MTs are on vacation? YMMV. So true!
I haven't seen a lot of postings on this site about Mirage in Mishawaka. I see many advertisements on the web, so I thought I'd TOFTT and check them out.
Mirage is a very clean, organized, and well maintained establishment. I was greeted by a short, young, and pretty lady with good English skills. She was friendly, flirty, and made me feel like she had been waiting all day just to see me. Unfortunately, I don't recall her name.
Her massage skills were fantastic. She demonstrated a firm, artistic technique and frequently asked if she was applying the right pressure. At one point, she used hot stones, which really relaxed my sore back. The massage included quite a bit of teasing, but no happiness was had at the end.
Mr. Steele makes a good point in his earlier post: Mirage serves a niche market by providing a pure therapeutic massage at prices that compete with the other Asian places in town. Recommended. Just don't expect any extras.
TequilaSundae
02-07-16, 02:36
I have a bilingual customer, who told me that the Mexicans have their own masseuses they see called 'mechanicas'. He said they had business cards and everything. Anyone heard of this?
TheMarkster
02-07-16, 12:42
I would love to experience that if any in area!! Please post and let me know as well!!
I have a bilingual customer, who told me that the Mexicans have their own masseuses they see called 'mechanicas'. He said they had business cards and everything. Anyone heard of this?Yes that's trhue the card was a mechanic fake business whit the phone number.
I don't have the number but Iknow is runnin by embrorery company LOL.
Let me ask couple of friends may I can getting.
5 years ago the menu was limited 2 positions.
Covered damage. 4 for 15 min.
Anyone have any info on this? I've seen this add for quite some time.
http://southbend.craigslist.org/thp/5438634100.html
I also agree a mecanica visit would be nice.
Anyone have any info? I have seen this posting for quite some time but never given it a try.
http://southbend.craigslist.org/thp/5438634100.html
I also agree with the mecanica visit. That would be great.
Couldn't find much info about this location so decided to TOFTT. Dropped in late evening and no one was at the front desk so I took a seat to wait. Waited, and waited. Must have been 30 minutes before I finally gave up and left. Never saw anyone, although someone was walking around upstairs and the adjoining nail salon had customers. I'm not sure about the connection between the massage provider and the nail salon. They are separate addresses and businesses, but in the same building and very similar names. Didn't want to barge into the nail salon asking questions, so I bailed.
A few observations though: The massage therapist here also has a solo practice in Goshen. The layout is pretty small and open, with one entry / main area where it looks like foot massages happen and two massage rooms that open directly into the main area. A separate bathroom, that I think had a shower (upright). Pretty clean location, but the flowery air freshener or incense was a bit strong.
So, no details on the massage here unfortunately. Any info from others is welcome, and I may try to go back again, although there are plenty of other places that actually have someone to greet you when the business is open!
- Antic.I have been to the Goshen place. I think only one gal works there. I'd guess her to be mid 40's. Good massage, lots of teasing, and overall a happy experience. She used A LOT of oil though so plan on a shower afterward. Nice woman and knows what she's doing. I will repeat.
Hopefully some help from the seniors I've heen reading page after and just can't find ansure thing I'm in town for the night from detroit area, willing to drive a hour +- for a sure thing AMP without getting bent over myself in the price. Prefer assians but open overall, home studios or typical AMP scenerio. Much appreciate any info before tonight ill share any report after, thanks.
Hopefully some help from the seniors I've heen reading page after and just can't find ansure thing I'm in town for the night from detroit area, willing to drive a hour +- for a sure thing AMP without getting bent over myself in the price. Prefer assians but open overall, home studios or typical AMP scenerio. Much appreciate any info before tonight ill share any report after, thanks.It depends on what your really expecting. New horizons in Osceole is your best bet, good massage friendly staff and standard extra service total 100.
It depends on what your really expecting. New horizons in Osceole is your best bet, good massage friendly staff and standard extra service total 100.Anyone I should ask for an is HJ the only ending there?
Anyone I should ask for an is HJ the only ending there?HJ only, to get anything more from an AMP you have to go to Michigan City, Kendallville, or Kalamazoo.
RealFexRoar
02-12-16, 01:49
HJ only, to get anything more from an AMP you have to go to Michigan City, Kendallville, or Kalamazoo.New poster here, was just hoping for some clarification. Would Osaka be the one you are talking about for Michigan city?
New poster here, was just hoping for some clarification. Would Osaka be the one you are talking about for Michigan city?Yes, that's correct. Scroll down a page or two and see Noobie's reviews of the location.
Member #5324
02-12-16, 21:34
Hopefully some help from the seniors I've heen reading page after and just can't find ansure thing I'm in town for the night from detroit area, willing to drive a hour +- for a sure thing AMP without getting bent over myself in the price. Prefer asians but open overall, home studios or typical AMP scenario. Much appreciate any info before tonight ill share any report after, thanks.I agree with Jeff, New Horizons is probably your best bet. The other AMPs in this area are pretty interchangable, two locations of Best Chinese Massage, New Impressions on 933, Yellow Moon. I like the Best Chinese spots at the moment. All are reliable for a good massage and a standard finish but it is rare to get more than that. Although every now and then something unexpected and quite fun happens. I've had some good luck at some other places that other members report as legit, but I guess you have to be a regular to get bonus fun so I would stick to these places for standard AMP service.
The place in Michigan City has been the only consistent FS shop in the area, but it isn't a guarantee, it varies from girl to girl. $40 entry fee for 30 minutes and then it is up to you to negotiate with the girl you get for other activities. They used to negotiate so hard I quit going, but I might be ready to try again. They go by either Sun Spa or Osaka depending on who you talk to, These refer to the same place if you go back and read previous reports on them.
Visited Sherrie yesterday amazing massage, very clean and safe enviroment and friendly. Very nice to have a attractive american to talk to.
Highly recommend give her a 9. 5 rating.
Conversation the whole time in English with a 50 year old, with inferior massage skills? Sounds awful. LOL.
You could have gone to the mall and had the same thing with a properly clothed 30 year old for half the price.
Probably had a better masssage, and rubbed one out yourself.
Thanks for the report nonetheless and cheers.Totally disagree, I visited Sherrie and thought she was very attractive and nice body as well. Very good massage and playful.
Visited Sherrie yesterday amazing massage, very clean and safe enviroment and friendly. Very nice to have a attractive american to talk to.
Highly recommend give her a 9. 5 rating.She makes you feel very comfortable right away she's very easy to talk to and understand she is a very very very pretty woman and the options that she offers is incredible at a fair price and I left her Office feeling very happy and completely satisfied. I will definitely be a repeat customer.
I agree with Jeff, New Horizons is probably your best bet. The other AMPs in this area are pretty interchangable, two locations of Best Chinese Massage, New Impressions on 933, Yellow Moon. I like the Best Chinese spots at the moment. All are reliable for a good massage and a standard finish but it is rare to get more than that. Although every now and then something unexpected and quite fun happens. I've had some good luck at some other places that other members report as legit, but I guess you have to be a regular to get bonus fun so I would stick to these places for standard AMP service.
The place in Michigan City has been the only consistent FS shop in the area, but it isn't a guarantee, it varies from girl to girl. $40 entry fee for 30 minutes and then it is up to you to negotiate with the girl you get for other activities. They used to negotiate so hard I quit going, but I might be ready to try again. They go by either Sun Spa or Osaka depending on who you talk to, These refer to the same place if you go back and read previous reports on them.Do I really have to put my two cents in? Probably not. But I'm going to. You can't miss with Coco and Anna at NH. After sampling all the AMPs in the area it is now the only place I go. I was sworn to secrecy, but I will say I always leave here feeling good and laughing. Great massage, great sense of humor, great ladies.
The Noob.
Member #5324
02-15-16, 21:40
She makes you feel very comfortable right away she's very easy to talk to and understand she is a very very very pretty woman and the options that she offers is incredible at a fair price and I left her Office feeling very happy and completely satisfied. I will definitely be a repeat customer.Three posts in a row from a new member, all praising Sherrie. Seems like obvious self-promotion to me.
All,
Anyone know of a good CMT type massage with HE.
Thanks.
Rich.
Three posts in a row from a new member, all praising Sherrie. Seems like obvious self-promotion to me.Do not insinuate that I am a female dude you don't me. I just happen to really enjoy her massage.
Stopped in at NH today and Sophia was there. I paid for the massage and stretched out on the table and she went to work. I thought that I was the only monger there, but toward the end of my massage, I heard another monger leave from one of the other rooms, then the other girl comes in and looks at me while conversing with Sophia. She then starts massaging me too. Sophia said that the other girl and the other customer were laughing at me because I was obviously enjoying myself and must have been a little vocal. Sorry guys, but this old fart really enjoys getting the kinks out! We all had a laugh about that, and NH rocks as usual.
Three posts in a row from a new member, all praising Sherrie. Seems like obvious self-promotion to me.You don't me. You shouldn't be assuming anything about who I am. I'm not a female and you basically just called me a female I gave my opinion of a very good massage that I had from Sherry I do not know her personally sounds like you're a hater.
Yes, you are, you're the chick in question and that's why I banned you.
A2
Another lurker, long time hobbyist.
When judy was around at the relax, became friends she had the touch.
And celing bar to walk on my back love being crushed she left for a while.
Mirage clean and always was happy! With most except a few newbies.
They laughed at me because I tried everyone my top place for one reason.
Lots of new hands to try and they all have a different touch.
Ym is good always had great service.
Five star went twice couple years ago never went back half baked rubs and bad odors.
Nh went when opened just to walk thru, you can do that cause your intuition will tell you unless you monger is to strong.
Been twice lately saw Anna, one of my favorites now if you treat them nice you'll get nice. Love her rub, strong hands, she crushes me, this girl works hard.
I'll add more later, happy rubbing.
Thanks Anna, you'll know. Chainedup.
HJ only, to get anything more from an AMP you have to go to Michigan City, Kendallville, or Kalamazoo.I was set on FS and decided to head back to detroit instead of staying overnight stopped in Jackson an dreampt of FS nice table shower and a 50 year old asian licking my asshole LOL, I do pass by kendallville but I heard they closed down maybe ill give that a shot I only heard reports of HJ finish there.
TequilaSundae
02-20-16, 10:02
Decided to TOFTT and try a place nobody talks about. After finding the location a few days ago (less of a strip mall, more like an office complex, hard to find) I checked it out. Clean space, no one around, surrounding business are accting offices and such. Woman who checked me in, a 6 out of 10. Leggings but long shirt covering, 30's. Led to room by a window, but opaque curtains. Room was clean and HUGE. Massage started off nice enough, and soon I heard her speaking. Thought perhaps she was on a bluetooth or something, then I felt another pair of hands on me. 1st pair on legs and ass, occasionally grazing the boys, second up top. They giggled at my surprise, but it was short lived. !st one left the room, so I got a look at girl 2, maybe late 20's, early 30, a solid 8 in yoga pants and tshirt, could have been better dressed. Girl 1 gave some instruction, and left for a bit. Girl 2 wasn't very good, or just too shy I don't know which. Girl 1 came back for a bit, but she was the only one doing any teasing below decks, and it wasn't much. She left again, and 2 asked for the flip, with no leadup. Towel over it, rub around till it came time for HE. I tried touching her, she held my hand and had me start, she finished.
Seemed put off by it, just touched nipples on me for the tease. Tipped. 4 because 4 hands, but otherwise not great. Elkharts history with rub shacks was kind of keeping me from fully relaxing, and noise from wind and cars driving by was a bit much, could have used a room at the back of the building. Not sure if going back.
Decided to TOFTT and try a place nobody talks about. After finding the location a few days ago (less of a strip mall, more like an office complex, hard to find) I checked it out. Clean space, no one around, surrounding business are accting offices and such. Woman who checked me in, a 6 out of 10. Leggings but long shirt covering, 30's. Led to room by a window, but opaque curtains. Room was clean and HUGE. Massage started off nice enough, and soon I heard her speaking. Thought perhaps she was on a bluetooth or something, then I felt another pair of hands on me. 1st pair on legs and ass, occasionally grazing the boys, second up top. They giggled at my surprise, but it was short lived. !st one left the room, so I got a look at girl 2, maybe late 20's, early 30, a solid 8 in yoga pants and tshirt, could have been better dressed. Girl 1 gave some instruction, and left for a bit. Girl 2 wasn't very good, or just too shy I don't know which. Girl 1 came back for a bit, but she was the only one doing any teasing below decks, and it wasn't much. She left again, and 2 asked for the flip, with no leadup. Towel over it, rub around till it came time for HE. I tried touching her, she held my hand and had me start, she finished.
Seemed put off by it, just touched nipples on me for the tease. Tipped. 4 because 4 hands, but otherwise not great. Elkharts history with rub shacks was kind of keeping me from fully relaxing, and noise from wind and cars driving by was a bit much, could have used a room at the back of the building. Not sure if going back.I thought they closed or am I mixing up locations.
LuvGingerGirls
02-20-16, 13:18
HJ only, to get anything more from an AMP you have to go to Michigan City, Kendallville, or Kalamazoo.Kendallville got raided a couple of days ago. From the Facebook page of Don Chico's Mexican Grill: "ATTENTION PLEASE: This morning we received a phone call informing us that the Kendallville Spa, which happens to be in the same building as us, was surrounded and raided by law enforcement. At this time we can only speculate what the details are in regards to the predicament our "neighbors" seem to have put themselves in. What we can say for sure is that we, Don Chico's and company, are not affiliated in any way with them. We are in direct contact with law enforcement agents on site, and are cooperating in any way we can to help facilitate the situation. Our plan for the day is business as usual, which means making lots of tacos and burritos. Thank you, and have a good day amigos!
Tried this rub a month ago or so which I found from posts in a couple of different places. Was located in the elk area.
Business in a small business commons kinda hard th find.
Had to admit harder I looked the more nervous I got.
Office clean and Profesional. Showed a menu with a huge list of options. Holy = at to many. For a rub I picked one I normally wouldn't for $$1/2 YA holy at! Thought this auta be great.
She was birthdayed and I was explained my finger print limitations.
Which I pushed the yellow tape on.
She is about 40 well sunned and shaped well. About a 6. And I did get spiritual for a minute.
But on my menu it was only stake &shake on filet $ .
It wasn't a bad experience but on a $ to experience ratio I'd say 5.
Won't try that stake and shake again unless I get coupons.
Keep looking up.
Thats the better view, ha unless you like feet.
But my fingers don't need eyes.
Chainedup.
TequilaSundae
02-21-16, 10:17
I thought they closed or am I mixing up locations.It's a different one, in the opposite direction, towards Tuffy Muffler area.
TequilaSundae
02-21-16, 10:18
Tried this rub a month ago or so which I found from posts in a couple of different places. Was located in the elk area.
Business in a small business commons kinda hard th find.
Had to admit harder I looked the more nervous I got.
Office clean and Profesional. Showed a menu with a huge list of options. Holy = at to many. For a rub I picked one I normally wouldn't for $$1/2 YA holy at! Thought this auta be great.
She was birthdayed and I was explained my finger print limitations.
Which I pushed the yellow tape on.
She is about 40 well sunned and shaped well. About a 6. And I did get spiritual for a minute.
But on my menu it was only stake &shake on filet $ .
It wasn't a bad experience but on a $ to experience ratio I'd say 5.
Won't try that stake and shake again unless I get coupons.
Keep looking up.
Thats the better view, ha unless you like feet.
But my fingers don't need eyes.
Chainedup.Having a bit of a hard time understanding this one.
LuvGingerGirls
02-21-16, 13:10
Having a bit of a hard time understanding this one.I have to agree with you there, TS. Trying a little TOO hard with coded references, methinks.
More metaphor's and inuendo than code.
And my key swiping got screwed up.
When I started to holy bat cave acouple words.
I'll speak better english next time.
More metaphor's and inuendo than code.
And my key swiping got screwed up.
When I started to holy bat cave acouple words.
I'll speak better english next time.I think I understood it as a standard massage with a standard HE with limited mutual touch and a lot of money.
Member #5324
02-21-16, 22:56
I rotate between the spots here in the Bend, and this is my current favorite. Lisa seems to put the best talent at the Granger spot rather than the 933 spot or Top Oriental on Hickory (also her place). They rotate the girls out pretty quickly, but I like the fact that they give consistent service and there are never any negotiations. It's up to you to leave the appropriate tip at the end.
The girls aren't young and hot, but there is something to be said for somebody who has some practice and knows what they are doing. My favorite part (well, second favorite.) is the tease. I hate it when I go to an AMP and there is no transition, just "turn over now" after the back massage. The therapists must be told to do this at BCM because it is really consistent there. I used to prefer the 933 location, but over the past two months I have only had okay experiences there.
NH is awesome too of course, but it is a bit far away for me. Sophia at NH is hot and a really nice lady. I have not spent much time at New Impressions because I don't like the visibility of the strip shopping center and the fact that their neighbor's customers check you out as you enter the place, but the few times I have been over the past six months have been fine, good service but nothing beyond the standard fare. I have not been to YM in several months after a bad experience there. It doesn't get much discussion here so I assume it has dropped off of everybody's radar.
Jim Steele
02-22-16, 19:47
I haven't seen a lot of postings on this site about Mirage in Mishawaka. I see many advertisements on the web, so I thought I'd TOFTT and check them out.
Mirage is a very clean, organized, and well maintained establishment. I was greeted by a short, young, and pretty lady with good English skills. She was friendly, flirty, and made me feel like she had been waiting all day just to see me. Unfortunately, I don't recall her name.
.....I may check that out. I know a lady that went there (not kidding) and she liked it.
A lot of times the therapeutic aspect is the best. I'm not kidding, I and I am sure many of the readers, have a lot of alternatives for the rest of it, but regular gals can't do a massage like a pro.
Jim Steele
02-22-16, 19:52
. I have not been to YM in several months after a bad experience there. It doesn't get much discussion here so I assume it has dropped off of everybody's radar.YM is fine, they just don't speak any English. If that's a problem don't go.
Personally I like it, but I don't push and I tip well. If you are pushy forget about YM they are cagey. I think they are best for repeat customers. Not so good for new users.
On the plus side, I never see any bums coming or going, like I have some places. That's good. Don't act like a hood around AMPs, they don't need the bad rap. I am not ashamed of my visits and they are totally legit businesses in my mind.
Jim Steele
02-22-16, 20:01
About kendallville, I know nothing of it personally, but I read the thread on ft wayne and a guy suggests that there is an element of trafficking there which has drawn LE.
I don't believe the places in St Joe county are involved in HT, the girls are all too relaxed and seemingly happy.
I have seen one lady well known in these circles out shopping in public, and at least one other we know has a car and comes and goes freely.
Personally, I think some of the HT stuff is exaggerated-- how many of our own ancestors came here with debts to pay off?
I'd like to see some of the businesses that employ illegal immigrants from Mexico get the same heat as AMPs do.
Seems to me like they could care less what happens with Mexicans who get a free pass-.
But when it comes to Asians, the immigration heat is usually aimed in the wrong places, if anywhere at all.
But overall, I want nothing to do with a place that abuses the women.
Member #5324
02-22-16, 21:25
About kendallville, I know nothing of it personally, but I read the thread on ft wayne and a guy suggests that there is an element of trafficking there which has drawn LE.
...I don't believe the places in St Joe county are involved in HT, the girls are all too relaxed and seemingly happy.
But overall, I want nothing to do with a place that abuses the women.I agree with you about the fact that HT does not seem to be an issue here. Back when City Massage was in it's heyday (the current New Impressions on 933), I did wonder because they had very young therapists who gave complete service, which was unusual at the time. But the South Bend therapists are almost all 40+ women who choose to do this, and I agree with you that they seem happy. Most seem to like their jobs.
Before SB got so many AMPs, I used to have to drive to Lake Station. That place got shut down and the owner opened up a couple of places in Gary. She got busted for HT about three years ago, there a links to the news stories in the NW Indiana section. I was stunned, I must admit that I had no idea. I really am not sure if that just means that she flew them in from China or if it means that it was against their will; the articles imply it was more about the former than the latter. I certainly never saw anything to make me think the girls were being held against their will. But it made me think for sure.
Member #5061
02-23-16, 02:39
Great post Putt Putt. I just wanted to add my positive review of the 933 and Granger spots. Have imagined excellent experiences at both.
That said, I recently imagined an unusually terrible visit to 933. Was evening, but not right before close. Asked to see Lisa (see why below) or April, but neither were home. Instead get the younger MT, "Xi Xi", although I hear that name too often all over the place. Anyway, about 15 into the hr she steps out to talk with someone, comes back then tells me they're too busy and she can only do half hour. Tells me she'll save the extra I paid for full hr as credit for a future visit. Umm, no thanks I say, just give me back the extra. She says OK, then comes back, re-starts massage and tells me now she's going to do half hour, then another MT will take over. This is all weird, plus there's a lot of talking and walking out in the hallway. Anyway, the older MT / mamasan comes in an finishes the last half. Couldn't relax, just weird and overall a downer. Can't figure out what happened.
In contrast, my imagination when Lisa was my MT was so amazing that it bordered on a religious experience I mean literally the best massage experience of my life. Importantly, I don't mean anything beyond hand work, just the most skilled, creative, focused, responsive, and hard working combination of massage techniques I've encountered. So, Putt Putt, when you mentioned that Lisa owns / manages these places it made me wonder if we're talking about the same person. PM if you prefer, but I sincerely want to never get a massage by anyone else again. How can I know when or where I can find Lisa working?
- Antic.
I rotate between the spots here in the Bend, and this is my current favorite. Lisa seems to put the best talent at the Granger spot rather than the 933 spot or Top Oriental on Hickory (also her place). They rotate the girls out pretty quickly, but I like the fact that they give consistent service and there are never any negotiations. It's up to you to leave the appropriate tip at the end.
The girls aren't young and hot, but there is something to be said for somebody who has some practice and knows what they are doing. My favorite part (well, second favorite.) is the tease. I hate it when I go to an AMP and there is no transition, just "turn over now" after the back massage. The therapists must be told to do this at BCM because it is really consistent there. I used to prefer the 933 location, but over the past two months I have only had okay experiences there.
NH is awesome too of course, but it is a bit far away for me. Sophia at NH is hot and a really nice lady. I have not spent much time at New Impressions because I don't like the visibility of the strip shopping center and the fact that their neighbor's customers check you out as you enter the place, but the few times I have been over the past six months have been fine, good service but nothing beyond the standard fare. I have not been to YM in several months after a bad experience there. It doesn't get much discussion here so I assume it has dropped off of everybody's radar.
I agree with you about the fact that HT does not seem to be an issue here. Back when City Massage was in it's heyday (the current New Impressions on 933), I did wonder because they had very young therapists who gave complete service, which was unusual at the time. But the South Bend therapists are almost all 40+ women who choose to do this, and I agree with you that they seem happy. Most seem to like their jobs.
Before SB got so many AMPs, I used to have to drive to Lake Station. That place got shut down and the owner opened up a couple of places in Gary. She got busted for HT about three years ago, there a links to the news stories in the NW Indiana section. I was stunned, I must admit that I had no idea. I really am not sure if that just means that she flew them in from China or if it means that it was against their will; the articles imply it was more about the former than the latter. I certainly never saw anything to make me think the girls were being held against their will. But it made me think for sure.I believe that when Yoki expanded to the Gary shop, the one girl that was there was living in the shop which is a dead give away to me. She was not restrained in any way and didn't appear to be abused, but if you don't speak the language and know nothing of your surroundings, you're essentially a prisoner. She seemed OK, but that was the location that Yoki got busted for. Early on, the Lake Station was the same way, but she actually got some home grown talent in Lake Station and in Hobart, but Yoki's arrest was not a surprise to me.
Jim Steele
02-23-16, 19:28
Great post Putt Putt. I just wanted to add my positive review of the 933 and Granger spots. Have imagined excellent experiences at both.
That said, I recently imagined an unusually terrible visit to 933......... In contrast, . Lisa was my MT was so amazing that it bordered on a religious experience I mean literally the best massage experience of my life. Importantly, I don't mean anything beyond hand work, just the most skilled, creative, focused, responsive, and hard working combination of massage techniques I've encountered. So, Putt Putt, when you mentioned that Lisa owns / manages these places it made me wonder if we're talking about the same person.... How can I know when or where I can find Lisa working?
- Antic.Sorry dude but Lisa primarily manages the three shops now and I am fairly certain that she is rarely doing massage. I have seen her unexpectedly but a normal walk-in will not likely find her available. If you see her talk to her, as she is a free woman and she can set her own terms and appointments, and may set something up for you. Lisa certainly is professional and most highly skilled. As a manager of the three shops (or so it would seem) she runs a tight show with high cleanliness, reasonable monitoring of masseuse performance, and proper licensing and compliance too.
By way of suggestion, try Sophia at 933 she is excellent masseuse too. And what a great personality! I have another favorite there too, but won't name her as she's getting too busy already.
I don't know the other names you mentioned but if they are unacceptable then ask for somebody else next time. A couple years ago I had two weak massages at 933, just really not what I expected, mediocre technique, would have been weak by any massage standards, then I got a couple that went back to standard. Next time I came back, the furnishings had improved and it seemed like the whole thing upgraded suddenly and I suspect that is when her group took over.
I just hope that this group doesn't go away or sell out. They run a tight ship. And no way are they going to test the limitations. I think we have a nearly iron clad rule here that there will be nothing more than a handshake at the end, more or less. That's fine by me. Like I have said the number one thing is a solid massage.
Jim Steele
02-23-16, 19:31
One more thing guys, smile when you see another client. Don't act furtive or ashamed. I saw a couple guys the past week who wouldn't say hello passing by. Why not? This is a great service they provide and we should be thankful to use it and just as positive about it as the women's spas. In a day when people are letting their kinks all hang out, we don't need to act guilty about the simple pleasure of a profoundly healthy massage. When I am done I feel exhilarated and happy at the chance to be alive.
Jim Steele
02-23-16, 19:38
I believe that when Yoki expanded to the Gary shop, the one girl that was there was living in the shop which is a dead give away to me. She was not restrained in any way and didn't appear to be abused, but if you don't speak the language and know nothing of your surroundings, you're essentially a prisoner. ....I can't speak to that particular siuation, but I don't assume that them living there means HT. Nor if they are unable to speak English that they are prisoners. I think you must not have meant that, but, there are a lot of migrant workers who a) live at or near worksites (think of mexican farm labor) and b) can't speak English (think mexicans again). Nobody is fussing the same way over Mexicans being "HT" victims but I'll bet plenty of them, like, millions in fact, are paying off debts to labor brokers or um "travel agents" and live onsite or nearby workplaces, and can't speak English. All I am saying, is that LE and politicians and the public should be fair to AMPs and not hold them to some false standard the nobody else seems to care about in the US.
That said, again, I do not approve of HT and would not want to patronize any establishment I thought was engaged in it. And I don't believe any of the outfits in St Joe county are involved in it, regardless of whether or not the girls are totally nonfunctional in English or not. As to whether or not they sleep on premises, mostly I don't think they do. I am not aware of any information that suggest otherwise except for them cooking on premises which is totally ok for any other business where workers are eating meals on site. And so it shouldn't be misinterpreted.
I can't speak to that particular siuation, but I don't assume that them living there means HT. Nor if they are unable to speak English that they are prisoners. I think you must not have meant that, but, there are a lot of migrant workers who a) live at or near worksites (think of mexican farm labor) and b) can't speak English (think mexicans again). Nobody is fussing the same way over Mexicans being "HT" victims but I'll bet plenty of them, like, millions in fact, are paying off debts to labor brokers or um "travel agents" and live onsite or nearby workplaces, and can't speak English. All I am saying, is that LE and politicians and the public should be fair to AMPs and not hold them to some false standard the nobody else seems to care about in the US.
That said, again, I do not approve of HT and would not want to patronize any establishment I thought was engaged in it. And I don't believe any of the outfits in St Joe county are involved in it, regardless of whether or not the girls are totally nonfunctional in English or not. As to whether or not they sleep on premises, mostly I don't think they do. I am not aware of any information that suggest otherwise except for them cooking on premises which is totally ok for any other business where workers are eating meals on site. And so it shouldn't be misinterpreted.I agree that I've seen nothing at any of the St. Joe AMPs that would indicate that they are involved in HT in any way.
I agree that I've seen nothing at any of the St. Joe AMPs that would indicate that they are involved in HT in any way.I have been in NH Osceola on a few occasions in which my massage took me past closing time and when I passed through the hall to leave one of the girls was in a night gown and had a face cream on. So to follow up on my suspicion 3 days ago I'm there late again I leave the lights are getting turned off I go across the tracks and look for activity 30 minutes later and not a single soul left that site. No either this is some sort of HT set up or the place is big enough for these girls to share and call home.
Indentured servitude was a labor system where people paid for their passage to the New World by working for an employer for a certain number of years. Been goingon in the world for thousands of years.
Kinda the same thing wnham you buy a house or a car.
They work off what they agreed to pay for being brought here.
And some times save money buy staying there.
If they get a good deal, because they also probably pay rent to live there.
But like the post said earlier I would never participate in HT or child.
Ht. Between adults, I love these ladies. And like was said I enjoy what they do for me and I show it.
It's one of my joys to find someone good and can crush me well.
I cruise the places but patronize the ladies that have enthusiasm and passion for a good tip.
Jim Steele
02-25-16, 20:13
...So to follow up on my suspicion 3 days ago I'm there late again I leave the lights are getting turned off I go across the tracks and look for activity 30 minutes later and .... No ....or the place is big enough for these girls to share and call home.First off, no offense, but surveillance is not cool. I suggest the proper customer protocol, is in and out, head up and pleasant to passers by, but be on our way. Now maybe you were over at the liquor store and came out, I'll assume that's what you meant. I may patronize other local businesses too and pass by, but be aware that they are vigilant about lurkers and as customers we don't like it. Busybodys do this in other locations I have heard in the news and that is bad. I don't mind if people see me but if they are watching me that is a negative, as in any other setting as well.
Second off, if and saying if and only if there was anybody overnighting somewhere, that's their biz not ours, and it's probably safer and cheaper for them as migrants to be together. So I see no problem with it. I'm not the landlord so what do I care and the ll prolly doesn't care either.
Thirdly you actually hit your nail on it. Shanghai has what 40 Million people living there? Beijing has 25 M. So yeah, they are probably ok sharing a room if that is what they choose to do. I think there is no social harm in it either, one could hardly ask for quieter and less troublesome neighbors.
Also the other guy made a good point that secured debt makes indentured servants of us all. Let's not be judgmental about the arrangements they make, even as we agree that we don't approve of HT which I think is a firm concensus from what I have read. Really I think that is a good place to leave off with the topic.
First off, no offense, but surveillance is not cool. I suggest the proper customer protocol, is in and out, head up and pleasant to passers by, but be on our way. Now maybe you were over at the liquor store and came out, I'll assume that's what you meant. I may patronize other local businesses too and pass by, but be aware that they are vigilant about lurkers and as customers we don't like it. Busybodys do this in other locations I have heard in the news and that is bad. I don't mind if people see me but if they are watching me that is a negative, as in any other setting as well.Well said.
FritoLay1226
03-03-16, 15:08
Couldn't find much info about this location so decided to TOFTT. Dropped in late evening and no one was at the front desk so I took a seat to wait. Waited, and waited. Must have been 30 minutes before I finally gave up and left. Never saw anyone, although someone was walking around upstairs and the adjoining nail salon had customers. I'm not sure about the connection between the massage provider and the nail salon. They are separate addresses and businesses, but in the same building and very similar names. Didn't want to barge into the nail salon asking questions, so I bailed.
A few observations though: The massage therapist here also has a solo practice in Goshen. The layout is pretty small and open, with one entry / main area where it looks like foot massages happen and two massage rooms that open directly into the main area. A separate bathroom, that I think had a shower (upright). Pretty clean location, but the flowery air freshener or incense was a bit strong.
So, no details on the massage here unfortunately. Any info from others is welcome, and I may try to go back again, although there are plenty of other places that actually have someone to greet you when the business is open!
- Antic.First time poster here on the South Bend forum but long time user of the area's services. The same lady does work in Magic and Goshen. Vietnamese named Tran. Only been to Goshen maybe 3 times with last time a couple months ago, and I highly recommend it. The layout is as described in a house, and she does take credit cards.
Very nice lady, decent English, good massage with a mix of firm therapeutic and some sensual teasing, no towel draping. She even does the walk on the back thing with bars on the ceiling. She is older in her 50's but her girls are pretty nice and she's in good shape. The girls come out on the flip and touching everywhere is allowed. Kitty is hairy and gets wet. The release is HJ but not standard. She does some crazy teasing, continuing massage mix at the beginning. Goes 2-handed and I'm not even sure what else but I think I got close to the ceiling bars on the release. Shower is great to get rid of all the oil she uses.
I thoroughly enjoyed my time with her. I do go for a quality massage too and definitely got that. One time I did meet her roommate who is a guy that I think she said rents the room above the garage. Don't think he was a bf and seemed like a nice dude. She said for service at Magic to call and request her specifically. Might do that next time. Enjoy!
I have bee trying to meet up with Natalie so far our schedule's just have not matched up. Hopefully soon.
Since I struck out again I went to Best in Granger and had a massage by a new person there. Amy. Not very attractive but really not a hug deal and I am glad that I did! Not only a very good massage but TONS of tease before the flip.
She was very thorough throughout the whole session and I do recommend.
I have bee trying to meet up with Natalie so far our schedule's just have not matched up. Hopefully soon.
Since I struck out again I went to Best in Granger and had a massage by a new person there. Amy. Not very attractive but really not a hug deal and I am glad that I did! Not only a very good massage but TONS of tease before the flip.
She was very thorough throughout the whole session and I do recommend.I had a dream where I went to Best at Granger. I also met Amy. Great massage, good teasing. Left very happy. Same experience as ShMashie. Recommended!
TequilaSundae
03-11-16, 07:41
Had business in Merillivllle, decided to GPS Osaka, and check it out. Greeted by Mamasan, told. 4 for half hour, directed to room to disrobe. Girl comes in, bony with bolt-ons, and well over 40, possibly over 50, couldn't tell because of makeup. Got table shower which was nice, kept asking where I was from and stuff. Sauna for a minute, then Massage. Really lousy massage. Then came negotiation, for HE. Forked out too much. Never going again.
First time poster here on the South Bend forum but long time user of the area's services. The same lady does work in Magic and Goshen. Vietnamese named Tran. Only been to Goshen maybe 3 times with last time a couple months ago, and I highly recommend it. The layout is as described in a house, and she does take credit cards.
Very nice lady, decent English, good massage with a mix of firm therapeutic and some sensual teasing, no towel draping. She even does the walk on the back thing with bars on the ceiling. She is older in her 50's but her girls are pretty nice and she's in good shape. The girls come out on the flip and touching everywhere is allowed. Kitty is hairy and gets wet. The release is HJ but not standard. She does some crazy teasing, continuing massage mix at the beginning. Goes 2-handed and I'm not even sure what else but I think I got close to the ceiling bars on the release. Shower is great to get rid of all the oil she uses.
I thoroughly enjoyed my time with her. I do go for a quality massage too and definitely got that. One time I did meet her roommate who is a guy that I think she said rents the room above the garage. Don't think he was a bf and seemed like a nice dude. She said for service at Magic to call and request her specifically. Might do that next time. Enjoy!How do I get in touch with the Goshen spot?
Been off the grid for a while and can't seem to pin down the location of Best CM in Granger. Any help would be great. Thanks.
Had business in Merillivllle, decided to GPS Osaka, and check it out. Greeted by Mamasan, told. 4 for half hour, directed to room to disrobe. Girl comes in, bony with bolt-ons, and well over 40, possibly over 50, couldn't tell because of makeup. Got table shower which was nice, kept asking where I was from and stuff. Sauna for a minute, then Massage. Really lousy massage. Then came negotiation, for HE. Forked out too much. Never going again.I don't get this. Not you personally cause there have been other posts. It's been a few months since I've been there as I only go to New Horizon now but when I did go to Sun, never once did I have to negotiate anything and always had a good time and a great massage.
Been off the grid for a while and can't seem to pin down the location of Best CM in Granger. Any help would be great. Thanks.It is located next to Yesterday's restaurant, on SR 23, just east of the railroad tracks. They have a portable lighted arrow sign by the road, advertising "get ten massages, the next one is free".
I don't get this. Not you personally cause there have been other posts. It's been a few months since I've been there as I only go to New Horizon now but when I did go to Sun, never once did I have to negotiate anything and always had a good time and a great massage.I live within a couple of miles of Sun (Osaka) Spa and always hope that things would change here, but I've been disappointed every time I go because my experiences have been exactly like TequilaSundae. The cost is always $40 for the half and $140 for whatever you wish. If you're comfortable with those price points, hand her the money as she comes in, because she will insist on payment before anything happens. I have never really gotten much of a massage either, a little light fingers and then on to the main event.
I was introduced to Lisa today, and also to the sense of humor that they have there. They really are a sweet and fun bunch of ladies.
She continued the tradition of delivering a great massage that left me completely empty of stress and tension. With the amount of driving and sitting I do, that is quite an accomplishment.
I also met Coco, and will certainly try to see her the next time I am there.
For all you fans of Anna. She is on vacation and should be back I believe on Wednesday.
Yes that's trhue the card was a mechanic fake business whit the phone number.
I don't have the number but Iknow is runnin by embrorery company LOL.
Let me ask couple of friends may I can getting.
5 years ago the menu was limited 2 positions.
Covered damage. 4 for 15 min.Any update on this I met a mexican customer from elkhart yesterday who after a few drink told me theres 2 he knew of one in elkhart and one in fort wayne, said it was. 35 for 15 minutes an extra for special requests. An you have to know someone to get in, but they have hot younger girls- columbian, mexican, brazillian etc and they rotate girls every month. As it was a customer and my boss was standing next to me I couldn't pry to hard but would love more info or to get a refferal.
Any update on this I met a mexican customer from elkhart yesterday who after a few drink told me theres 2 he knew of one in elkhart and one in fort wayne, said it was. 35 for 15 minutes an extra for special requests. An you have to know someone to get in, but they have hot younger girls- columbian, mexican, brazillian etc and they rotate girls every month. As it was a customer and my boss was standing next to me I couldn't pry to hard but would love more info or to get a refferal.I have heard of this before as well in the Elkhart area and am intrigued.
I have heard of this before as well in the Elkhart area and am intrigued.He made it sound like s brothel style house not under any massage premise like I have heard in the past just. 35 for 15, pick a girl an off ya go. Sounds like my kinda place, hopefully someone can fill in some blanks for us.
i've not seen a place like this in 20 years since 10th st in indianapolis
He made it sound like s brothel style house not under any massage premise like I have heard in the past just. 35 for 15, pick a girl an off ya go. Sounds like my kinda place, hopefully someone can fill in some blanks for us.I'd be very interested in this.
i've not seen a place like this in 20 years since 10th st in indianapolis
I'd be very interested in this.I'm kind of be suprised if anyone there speaks english an apparently there are no ads, you must be referred so unless we have a latino monger here that wants to refer a bunch of horny white guys our questions will probably go unanswered, next week I'm goin to see the customer again an try to dig a little more.
Jim Steele
03-23-16, 23:08
Went to best on 933. Looking for Cindy or Sophia. One was gone and the other busy.
I got Amy.
Not in the same league at all. Good massage but not excellent.
Too chatty.
Too fast.
Too impatient.
Minimum tip. . 4. And that might have been too much.
I assume she had a bad day. But I won't repeat with her. I'm sure she can do better.
She seems like she probably has better skills, I saw some promise, but it faded to mediocre.
There was a failure of consistency. I don't like impatient.
I find that when I open the candy jar.
Its always been good candy as long as I use common sense.
Be nice be nice, say you like what there doing and trade favors.
I've read Someone say here which I've always done give back.
While she's crushing my back over my head I'll massage her legs and feet, after all there human too.
Couple weeks back saw new small therapist at moon.
Not good English but I tried to keep conversation.
And shared rubs and it was great result.
And my rut I guess is have seen Anna at the other place all the times I've been there.
Thinking ill get someone new, but she crushes me so good I really don't give a shit. Some day I'll get to the other girls.
Indy in couple weeks, studied and saved for research there.
Let you know about that, rubba dub dub.
Antone have an experience or feedback on the massage parlor in Goshen?, apparently the lady Vietnamese.
AsianGuy310
04-02-16, 01:23
Went to NH today and met Coco for the first time. Had been there a few times before and had Anna and the shorter girl (didn't get her name). Both Coco and Anna deliver top notch massages compared to other AMP's I've been to in the area. Lets just say, I left very happy after my session with Coco today!
I also saw coco couple days ago.
And the only thing I'd like to say.
Sorry coco.
Had hour and half I treat myself once in while after a couple days of hard workouts when your old you get knots.
She absolutely crushed me for the whole time.
Then I discussed the bonus tip.
Well because I'm so used to bartering for a deal I shorted her hard professional massage.
Besides being happy.
My bad because she deserved the tip I gave just for the great massage.
Sorry coco.
Chainedup.
Antone have an experience or feedback on the massage parlor in Goshen?, apparently the lady Vietnamese.If you do a search you will find some recent reports. She gives a good massage and is fun. She's probably late 40's but is fit with girls that still look great. She does use a lot of oil though. Enough that one shower doesn't wash it off. Stay safe!
I'm new to the area does anybody know where to get a good prostate massage or good massage any recommendations.
Jim Steele
04-14-16, 18:24
I'm new to the area does anybody know where to get a good prostate massage or good massage any recommendations.I don't think that particular thing is on the menu. In general. More vanilla than this I'm afraid.
There is gluteal and inguinal and lymph node massage as part of the usual massage services, yes, but I don't think that additional service is part of what's offered.
They are not shy about the inguinal and gluteal and pelvic area and thigh massage, of course.
And that is part of the reason you go to an Asian spa instead of an American one where they are major shy about rubbing your butt and pelvis.
Where of course there is a lot of tension and oftentimes skeletal pain.
However, if you want an internal uh extensive whatever, that is probably outside the range of what you can expect around here.
I understand that the services are pretty consistently limited around here to exclude certain things. If you really um need this then maybe Indianapolis would be where to go.
If you just need a good lymph nodes massage and strong gluteal and pelvic area massage, certainly you can get that.
A lot of users of this forum like NH in Osceola. I don't prefer it but its certainly a good value. I prefer Lisa's group. But overall there is good consistent quality and value around here.
Anyways, just don't expect too much or to go too far. FS and BJ are not going to happen based on what I understand. And I would think prostate maybe same. I haven't asked.
That may be trying to stick a square peg into a round hole, so to speak LOL.
Jim Steele
04-14-16, 18:35
You guys have nice cars. I think maybe the tips here got to be the best if you judge the auto stock.
Cindy's won me over with her expertise. Gets my energy flowing. I tip her well. She earns it. I think she knows she is good and expects it too-- so if you want to go cheap, don't go with her.
Sophia, also a real professional. Not really interested in the others.
Also, I saw a new lady there who is probably around 30. That's on the young side for these providers as why'all know.
I have no problem with 35-45 year olds so I didn't partake.
Some other people might want to check that out however. Be on good behavior there, they're not a sketchy place.
I don't mind seeing gentlemen there, and I hear they occasionally have a lady client. I don't want to see riff raff there.
Go down to new impressions if you are looking for the cheap. I've never been there and don't want to try it given the problems years back.
Jim Steele
04-14-16, 18:38
Antone have an experience or feedback on the massage parlor in Goshen?, apparently the lady Vietnamese.If this is the one that also has done in mishawaka, I would say its an excellent massage and very sensual. But no release.
If you are focused on release, probably not the best choice.
If you go back in this thread it seems this masseuse draws the line more strictly.
Jim Steele
04-14-16, 18:56
We know that LE probably trolls this website.
I want to draw attention to this story out of Carmel a couple years ago.
http://www.thecrimereport.org/news/crime-and-justice-news/2013-05-questioning-indiana-undercover-work
"Police officers visited Indiana massage parlors repeatedly and allowed workers — all Chinese immigrants — to fondle them in exchange for cash, all in a fight against prostitution and human trafficking. On Wednesday, 30 officers raided two businesses in Carmel and Zionsville, arresting six people — four alleged prostitutes and two alleged pimps, says the Indianapolis Star. The methods police say were needed to shut down a sophisticated prostitution ring were criticized by legal and law-enforcement experts and women's advocates as excessive, unnecessary, and misapplied to an investigation that involved possible human trafficking.
They say that prostitutes can be arrested and charged in Indiana as soon as an agreement to pay for a sex act is made. Intimate contact was not required. Plus, some said, if the women indeed had been victims of sexual exploitation, working in the sex trade against their will, the sex acts they performed on the officer only contributed to their humiliation, exploitation and degradation. "How do you simultaneously say you're protecting them by arresting them, but then you're victimizing them by your undercover stuff?" said Eugene O'Donnell, a former New York police officer and prosecutor who's now a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice. "Is this official victimization by the state?
Sounds like a very negative raid happened and the community did not like it. LE should not assume, foolishly, that people object to these businesses just because one or two busybodies may call and whine about them.
I don't expect to see any aggressive or improper policing of our legitimate and health-enhancing asian massage parlors in St Joe County. That would be most unwelcome by we who use them and are law abiding taxpayers in need of massage.
Proper licensing is not a problem here. I have seen licenses prominently displayed. Nor is cleanliness. In terms of LE fishing for headline-grabbing arrests, the only headlines will reflect badly on LE if this sort of thing happens here.
I fully believe the massage therapists here are properly licensed and not under trafficked. The private massages people receive here are peaceful and not harming anyone.
I am pleased that in the past few years, LE has focused on the violent crime in this county which is our major crime problem, not harassing these health enhancing massage therapists harming nobody.
The Carmel police caught a lot of guff over this raid and were very embarrassed. On the internet the stories about this have been removed by several newspapers which speaks for itself.
But we will remember it and certainly support our friends if they are submitted to any kind of rough or intrusive or provocative investigations they can be expected to stand up for themselves.
But I believe this will not be a problem. St Joe county has seen a lot of violence over the years and none of it has had anything to do with these places at all. Keep your eye on public safety Uncle LEO, not harassment.
AsianGuy310
04-16-16, 01:32
Just saw a CL ad for Lilly Spa in Elkhart. Are they new? Anybody checked it out yet?
Member #6158
04-17-16, 18:44
Going to spending a weekend in the area. What's the best recommendation for younger talent (20's-30's)? Just looking for a good standard finish.
Jim Steele
04-18-16, 18:01
Going to spending a weekend in the area. What's the best recommendation for younger talent (20's-30's)? Just looking for a good standard finish.No masseuses in this county in their 20's, all are older. That I know of. Most report an age around 35-45. Some look as young as thirty, some are clearly as old as 50.
Not a problem in my mind, I like a strong masseuse who knows what she's doing.
Go through this thread, the favorite of most users is NH in Osceola. I don't go there but when I did a few times it was satisfactory.
Is too far away here is one on hickory in mishawaka that is fine. There are two on 933. I prefer the one on the west side.
There are two in granger. Both I like. But if you are are not a regular that may be a waste of your time they are shy about new customers.
Try New Impression on 933.
Yoyo is in her mid-twenties, quite pretty and we'll put together IMHO.
She seemed a little standoffish at first, but gave a good massage and finish.
YMMV if it's your first time there.
Going to spending a weekend in the area. What's the best recommendation for younger talent (20's-30's)? Just looking for a good standard finish.
Member #5324
04-20-16, 20:45
This is how you join our community. Give some information and establish your credibility. Don't just ask for information in your first few posts.
Well done Other G. I'm happy to share info with you by PM.
Try New Impression on 933.
Yoyo is in her mid-twenties, quite pretty and we'll put together IMHO.
She seemed a little standoffish at first, but gave a good massage and finish.
YMMV if it's your first time there.
Thanks Putt Putt.
I learned an awful lot from reading this free forum, I'm glad I could contribute.
This is how you join our community. Give some information and establish your credibility. Don't just ask for information in your first few posts.
Well done Other G. I'm happy to share info with you by PM.
TequilaSundae
04-22-16, 16:46
Just saw a CL ad for Lilly Spa in Elkhart. Are they new? Anybody checked it out yet?I did check it out several weeks ago, write a review. I didn't remember the name of the place.
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