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ShapopoJoe9745
12-31-18, 14:31
Thanks. What is the scoop on this place? BBJ? CFS?
Palindrome is 5445 Rockville rd.
TheBlindman
12-31-18, 14:46
Where is Palindrome located? I found one on Google search but shows as permanently closed in Fishers.Shap, After spending a couple of weeks asking for info in Las Vegas & Indy do you have anything to share about your exploits?
Where is Palindrome located? I found one on Google search but shows as permanently closed in Fishers.I'm all for helping out, but I did a search on this site for Palindrome and the address came up in the first page of results. I didn't even have to open any of the abbreviated posts on the results page.
You could save yourself a lot of time and frustration just by using the search feature at the top, right of this page.
Member #6042
12-31-18, 18:43
I'm all for helping out, but I did a search on this site for Palindrome and the address came up in the first page of results. I didn't even have to open any of the abbreviated posts on the results page.
You could save yourself a lot of time and frustration just by using the search feature at the top, right of this page.True, I don't live in Indy and I'm not that familiar with the area, but was able to find each location and pick a few top ones with only an hour or so of research. Google earth can be your friend.
Billy270128
12-31-18, 19:51
I think I've written this 2 or 3 times now, maybe more. There's something to be said for hitting the new best place, if you time it just right. The girls are excited because they're making a lot more money, so they seem to be more fun. If you've hit it right it's not so busy that you'll get lots of interruptions.
However, it doesn't take long for the girls to start wearing out. Plus, a lot of the new customers aren't the sweet, lovable guys they're happy to see. They get more pushy customers, customers who under tip, customers that cause problems. So, even if you're a regular, they aren't as excited to see you. It's hard to keep smiling when you're doing 15-20 massages a day, 7 days a week. Then there's all the interruptions.
Hitting a new place means you're going to strike out some times. I've been to places where I was the youngest person there, which would have been okay 25 years ago. I've had massages where I could have had a neon sign on my unit, and the masseuse never would have seen it. Even went to a place where I agreed to pay the woman to strip and I wanted to ask how much more for her to put her clothes back on.
However, if you take enough of those for the team, every now and then you hit the home run.The part about being the youngest one there is some funny shit! There have been times where the place looked like the Senior Citizen center when I walked in. Annnnd the turned around after mumbling something stupid about being in the wrong place.
I was just there yesterday. They are still open. Search sunrise spa and you will find the correct phone number.The one that was at 96th and Keystone. Not Sunrise.
Went for an hour yesterday and was dissapointed. In the past, I've always had good experiences here. Massage was always decent from head to toe and included arm and leg stretches. HE was also always decent.
Yesterday's experience was with a taller than average 7/10 who was completely indifferent the whole time. Massage was repetitive across back only, with lots of firm rubbing. Barely ventured below the waist. She made one quick pass down thighs and calves and occasionally open-handed the top of each butt cheek as she rubbed down my back. Not a sensual touch during massage either.
Just before the flip, hot towel and light touch. Finally getting into the zone but without actually touching anything sensitive.
As soon as I flipped, it was all business. Straight to junior with mechanical action. No UTC and only lower-body OTC. So blah it almost didn't get the job done. Rushed me out after about 35-40 minutes.
Next time I'll be sure to ask for a different girl if she's there.
Stopped by Friday on my way to the airport. Shorter of the two I've seen before. Pretty good massage lots of UTC roaming and great attitude. Lots of attention to the jewelry and ass. Great ending then more massage to finish the half hour.
40 massage 40 tip.
Cheers and happy new year.
Does Palindrome have a side door? Hate to parade myself up and down that ramp in front of the busy street. Thanks.No up the wood ramp and in the front door.
ManWithPants
01-01-19, 20:51
Anybody know any nearby parlors that offer FS?
SexCreation110
01-02-19, 02:10
Went by Ni Ni the other day. Saw who was going to be the masseuse and walked out. She could have been my great grandmother. Went to Palindrome and was quite satisfied. Same experience as has been mentioned recently.
Member #5974
01-02-19, 07:04
Hadn't seen anything lately about rose on the east side. Stopped in to give it try. 40 something gal met me at door. Two gals working, only saw one but she was attractive enough 5/10. Decent massage, good technique on the flip and followed instructions well. Utc roaming up top and otc below. Normal door fee and tip applied.
ShapopoJoe9745
01-02-19, 07:44
I have not taken the plunge yet. Guess a little nervous as a newbie. I am in Vegas in Feb for a conference and will probably take that first shot there if nothing in Indy.
Shap, After spending a couple of weeks asking for info in Las Vegas & Indy do you have anything to share about your exploits?
No up the wood ramp and in the front door.Thanks for the help, ItsReal.
I went to the Palindrome in the dark — due to no side door. Rang the bell while letting myself in, since it it was open. Stood around in front of that clinic-like front desk but no one showed up. I waited in utter silence for another three long minutes or so, not wanting to "interrupt" a critical moment. But not rustle, nor a sound of a voice, not a grunt, nothing!
So I quickly let myself back out. It was a bit spooky! (There were two SUV's there though, one that's always there and the other I presume was a fellow-monger's, the one who was keeping the sole employee busy, no doubt!
So I trucked on over to Lav for the first time. Lisa and Lucy were welcoming. I ended up with Lisa. Not much to write home about, but friendly and smiley, even giggly when I tried to relax her by making jokes and animation with Mr. Happy. Sadly, real communication was sorely limited due to the language issue. Also, no Table Shower. I like TS's!
I had, the day before, stopped in at the Beach (since they wouldn't answer the damn phone). I asked them if they had a TS and the slim, well-cleavaged girl had to ask MMS what I was talking about (through a cracked-open door) and I never quite got a definitive answer, only perhaps to understand that they did have a shower, but maybe not a TS. So I left. I really need to get Babbel. Chinese and / or Korean!
Can someone, perhaps a senior member give a list of which Indy AMPs have a TS? Also, which are Korean? Rubmaps attempts to do this but I have noticed many, many errors and stale information.
Oh, back to Lav. Lisa was just okay. A bit of an amateur at the post-sensitivity portion, if you know what I mean! Seemed really uptight about straying too far from the standard HJ, and not much else. She allowed a little UTC after much begging and cajoling — and giggling on her part. Is it just me, or is Indy just a bit uptight about the extras?
Or does it just take patience and several visits of being sweet and nice and "fondly" remembered? Only to have to start all over again when there is a rotation.
I'm in both States quite a bit so I do most of my funstuff in St. Louis / Illinois-suburbs. I guess it must be something to do with "community standards" but I tell ya, over there, FS is assumed, as long as you have the extra 1. 2, or so. I'm super nice to the providers and when they recognize me, no "massage" is even necessary (unless you want it) — it's both of you immediately naked after the TS, GFE-style, on a "regular" bed, at that.
Still, I live around Indy and I wish it were better here.
Anyone want to help with who is Korean and TS? Thanks.
ShapopoJoe9745
01-03-19, 07:40
Any good recommendations for AMP on the east side? Stopped in you SPA but not looking for a 60 yr old broad. Would rather spank it.
IndyGolfer60
01-03-19, 11:26
Any good recommendations for AMP on the east side? Stopped in you SPA but not looking for a 60 yr old broad. Would rather spank it.Luna.
King spa.
Rose.
TheBlindman
01-03-19, 13:04
Any good recommendations for AMP on the east side? Stopped in you SPA but not looking for a 60 yr old broad. Would rather spank it.With 41 posts asking for info and having never taken the plunge that must be what you are doing! 😁.
MyFriend31
01-03-19, 13:15
Several weeks back I made a journey to the westside and tried a new AMP at 7000 w wash. Got an older girl with a very unique style massage that left me very relaxed. When leaving I noticed a younger girl much more attractive so hoping to get her this time. I was in luck. Much more attractive girl answers door and leads me to room. I am guessing late 30 something. I asked if they had ts and again my lucky streak continues. After a very relaxing shower we return to the room for a very good hard massage. I asked for hard, that is what I prefer. During massage when she got below my waterline the tease began. On the flip side a little light massage then headed for the fun zone. Very good HE and otc was allowed. All in all a very good trip that was worth the extra drive west. I will return.
ShapopoJoe9745
01-03-19, 14:01
LOL. Yep, working my way up to it.
With 41 posts asking for info and having never taken the plunge that must be what you are doing! 😁.
Ventured today in search of the Indy massage off 10th and 8600 block just to find out it was closed, no neon lights on and the sign laying in the ground:/ figured I'm in the area lets head over to you Spa, greeted by a 40 something that swears she's in her mid 20's anyways takes me back and calls a 4 foot nothing pudgy 2/10 girl. To which I say no, I need a young one. Smiles, says something in Chinese and leads me to another room in the back. Well turns out get the greeter. I asked for 30 min, massage was ok, very little OTC on the flip very mechanical HE, finished with a hand full of titie and the other holding the snatch. Mehh maybe I'll repeat. Total damage typical. 8.
RedFox2120
01-03-19, 16:44
Went by Ni Ni the other day. Saw who was going to be the masseuse and walked out. She could have been my great grandmother. Went to Palindrome and was quite satisfied. Same experience as has been mentioned recently.Wish this was like NYC. These old grandmas are 4 Jacksons and that includes entrance fee and full service all 3 holes. They also do BBFS if that's your thing. Crazy that they charge twice as much here.
Wish this was like NYC. These old grandmas are 4 Jacksons and that includes entrance fee and full service all 3 holes. They also do BBFS if that's your thing. Crazy that they charge twice as much here.You sold me. I like grandmas, the price, and am booking a flight, economy class, to NYC. I assume any cabbie could find one of these establishments.
You sold me. I like grandmas, the price, and am booking a flight, economy class, to NYC. I assume any cabbie could find one of these establishments.98 mott is the place to go in manhattan was just there yesterday got bbj, BBFS, and cim for $70 total. Lily is the lady to see best looking one there and the youngest looking
Ok, I'm giving Indianapolis a C- for massage options. There is just no comparison to places like Philly and Dallas. Clearly there are worse cities for the trade like Kansas City, so, maybe I'm being a little harsh. But not much. I was just in Dallas and enjoyed a beautiful 23 yr old Korean and another gorgeous 26 yr old. It's not just looks, but their personalities are just so much better than 95% of the Indy providers. It's not even close. Anyways, my favorite Indy provider still has to be Wendy on the West-side across from Pizza Hut. We just click and she is a thin spinner type that stays pretty fit. But still, maybe I should move to Philly or Dallas. I still can't stop thinking about that 23 yr old Dallas girl. Unbelievable.
How about a poll? Which city is best for the trade? I'm going with Dallas and Philly.
ShapopoJoe9745
01-04-19, 07:56
Where on west side? Independent or AMP?
Ok, I'm giving Indianapolis a C- for massage options. There is just no comparison to places like Philly and Dallas. Clearly there are worse cities for the trade like Kansas City, so, maybe I'm being a little harsh. But not much. I was just in Dallas and enjoyed a beautiful 23 yr old Korean and another gorgeous 26 yr old. It's not just looks, but their personalities are just so much better than 95% of the Indy providers. It's not even close. Anyways, my favorite Indy provider still has to be Wendy on the West-side across from Pizza Hut. We just click and she is a thin spinner type that stays pretty fit. But still, maybe I should move to Philly or Dallas. I still can't stop thinking about that 23 yr old Dallas girl. Unbelievable.
How about a poll? Which city is best for the trade? I'm going with Dallas and Philly.
ShapopoJoe9745
01-04-19, 07:57
I will be taking the plunge as a first-time monger this weekend. We will be visiting a few recommended on the east side. Fingers crossed I can get a CFS on first-time!
Ok, I'm giving Indianapolis a C- for massage options. There is just no comparison to places like Philly and Dallas. Clearly there are worse cities for the trade like Kansas City, so, maybe I'm being a little harsh. But not much. I was just in Dallas and enjoyed a beautiful 23 yr old Korean and another gorgeous 26 yr old. It's not just looks, but their personalities are just so much better than 95% of the Indy providers. It's not even close. Anyways, my favorite Indy provider still has to be Wendy on the West-side across from Pizza Hut. We just click and she is a thin spinner type that stays pretty fit. But still, maybe I should move to Philly or Dallas. I still can't stop thinking about that 23 yr old Dallas girl. Unbelievable.
How about a poll? Which city is best for the trade? I'm going with Dallas and Philly.Indy is better than Detroit. Motor city has almost no activity on this thread for info, and the 3 places I visited were all crappy with no HE. Houston seems to have an abundance of options. I've been trying to get back there to check out one of the many Bath Houses, but 2018 was a wash thanks to work.
IrishGuy11
01-04-19, 08:32
Ok, I'm giving Indianapolis a C- for massage options. There is just no comparison to places like Philly and Dallas. Clearly there are worse cities for the trade like Kansas City, so, maybe I'm being a little harsh. But not much. I was just in Dallas and enjoyed a beautiful 23 yr old Korean and another gorgeous 26 yr old. It's not just looks, but their personalities are just so much better than 95% of the Indy providers. It's not even close. Anyways, my favorite Indy provider still has to be Wendy on the West-side across from Pizza Hut. We just click and she is a thin spinner type that stays pretty fit. But still, maybe I should move to Philly or Dallas. I still can't stop thinking about that 23 yr old Dallas girl. Unbelievable.
How about a poll? Which city is best for the trade? I'm going with Dallas and Philly.Toronto and Montreal. In US, LA is great as is NYC.
Thanks for the help, ItsReal.
I went to the Palindrome in the dark due to no side door. Rang the bell while letting myself in, since it it was open. Stood around in front of that clinic-like front desk but no one showed up. I waited in utter silence for another three long minutes or so, not wanting to "interrupt" a critical moment. But not rustle, nor a sound of a voice, not a grunt, nothing!
So I quickly let myself back out. It was a bit spooky! (There were two SUV's there though, one that's always there and the other I presume was a fellow-monger's, the one who was keeping the sole employee busy, no doubt!
So I trucked on over to Lav for the first time. Lisa and Lucy were welcoming. I ended up with Lisa. Not much to write home about, but friendly and smiley, even giggly when I tried to relax her by making jokes and animation with Mr. Happy. Sadly, real communication was sorely limited due to the language issue. Also, no Table Shower. I like TS's!
I had, the day before, stopped in at the Beach (since they wouldn't answer the damn phone). I asked them if they had a TS and the slim, well-cleavaged girl had to ask MMS what I was talking about (through a cracked-open door) and I never quite got a definitive answer, only perhaps to understand that they did have a shower, but maybe not a TS. So I left. I really need to get Babbel. Chinese and / or Korean!
Can someone, perhaps a senior member give a list of which Indy AMPs have a TS? Also, which are Korean? Rubmaps attempts to do this but I have noticed many, many errors and stale information.
Oh, back to Lav. Lisa was just okay. A bit of an amateur at the post-sensitivity portion, if you know what I mean! Seemed really uptight about straying too far from the standard HJ, and not much else. She allowed a little UTC after much begging and cajoling and giggling on her part. Is it just me, or is Indy just a bit uptight about the extras?
Or does it just take patience and several visits of being sweet and nice and "fondly" remembered? Only to have to start all over again when there is a rotation.
I'm in both States quite a bit so I do most of my funstuff in St. Louis / Illinois-suburbs. I guess it must be something to do with "community standards" but I tell ya, over there, FS is assumed, as long as you have the extra 1. 2, or so. I'm super nice to the providers and when they recognize me, no "massage" is even necessary (unless you want it) it's both of you immediately naked after the TS, GFE-style, on a "regular" bed, at that.
Still, I live around Indy and I wish it were better here.
Anyone want to help with who is Korean and TS? Thanks.What is the LAV? Lavender?
Indy is dominated by Chinese AMPs. I don't know of any Korean AMPs. The closest ones I know are in Danville, IL or Chicago. Occasionally, the Mountain Aire has a Korean provider.
Where on west side? Independent or AMP?Never been to Dallas or Philly but Orlando is pretty darn good. Tampa / St. Pete good but has declined a bit in last year or so.
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Toronto and Montreal. In US, LA is great as is NYC.Toronto area is good and you have the bonus that many of the massage places have websites with current pics, and schedules for each shift.
But for the best deal, go south. Way south. Not going to get much of a massage, but 1 hour CFS for $50 all in (although it's common to give a $6 tip) with an 18-30 year old is hard to beat.
So at National this week empty lot other than the two cars out front of door. We all know how many rooms they have and in the 30 min on the table 3 come to the door. Come on guys its not that hard to understand when you pull up in the lot respect the fact that someone is needing some quite time. Other then that service was great. I understand that's why some of you are loosing your mind but come on.
Bigred2006
01-06-19, 10:13
I hit up the spot on W 86th. Had Vivian. Rough, hard massage. . 60 for house and. 20 auto tip (seemed weird). She wanted $. For HJ and $. 50 for BJ. I passed. Won't go back for those prices.
MayTag4040
01-06-19, 10:48
What is the LAV? Lavender?
Indy is dominated by Chinese AMPs. I don't know of any Korean AMPs. The closest ones I know are in Danville, IL or Chicago. Occasionally, the Mountain Aire has a Korean provider.I went to mountains. Be patient. Don't run off.
I was there Friday and had a similar experience. When I did a 40 ish lady came out and put in a room. They had some horny old fat dude in there. Like all of us. Then the door opened and a 30 to 35 yrs hot hot hot gal came in boots, hot pants 8 on a 10 (iam easy) spoke the best English I heard in a while. I told her what I wanted and she used voice translater to verify and asked how much I had,80. She said no massage, get down to business. And we did. He for all.
I hit up the spot on W 86th. Had Vivian. Rough, hard massage. . 60 for house and. 20 auto tip (seemed weird). She wanted $. For HJ and $. 50 for BJ. I passed. Won't go back for those prices.Not sure who I drew but it was about 2 weeks ago. She was cute, short dress and cotton panties. Massage was not bad but not relaxing or theraputic but who cares. Prices she offered were the same (for FS as well).
KYTavern12
01-07-19, 10:43
Since I haven't seen any other reviews I'll don this one "Tucker" since I personally like the code names. Skeptic this was a fly by the night place, one car in lot and no lights visible from outside. Visited NY's day in the evening. Surprisingly, door was unlocked and I walked into a freshly painted and new carpet smelling AMP. Could hear two attendants speaking in back but only one came out to greet me. Early 30's, slim, 6/10 rating leggings with boots and sweater up top. Went for HHR which is. 50 to feel the place out. No mention of TS and I didn't ask. Rooms are spacious and fully walled. Massage was actually pretty good and energizing. Towel was draped but moved way up when she moved on the legs. Played the game and felt her lower leg and then upper thigh OTC while on my sides. Legs finished and then was treated to a 2-3 minute light finger massage all other the back, behind, and legs. That always gets me rock hard for the flip. Flip came and was instructed to DIY but she helped with ball massage and nipple play. With a handful of legging ass I was relieved. Cleaned up with warm towel and then covered again to dry. Entertained with another 5 minutes of front leg work and foot massage. Tipped. 30 and was told a new girl arriving next week. Heard another monger enter while there and was still in room when I left. Hopefully, you were treated better than myself. Overall, I'll repeat. So close to home and have a gym shower close by, gives me an excuse for evening adventures.
Might just be me but I did not fair well at this establishment a few months ago. The smell was overwhelming and the service was underwhelming. I got a half hour and the massage was not very good. The extras were really not helpful to the point where I tipped only $20 because it was so poor. She asked for another twenty doll hairs and I caved because I wanted to get out of there. Several other places have peaked my interest so I will be trying those spots.
Might just be me but I did not fair well at this establishment a few months ago. The smell was overwhelming and the service was underwhelming. I got a half hour and the massage was not very good. The extras were really not helpful to the point where I tipped only $20 because it was so poor. She asked for another twenty doll hairs and I caved because I wanted to get out of there. Several other places have peaked my interest so I will be trying those spots.Another case of Your Masseuse May Vary.
Beanes9021
01-08-19, 14:59
Might just be me but I did not fair well at this establishment a few months ago. The smell was overwhelming and the service was underwhelming. I got a half hour and the massage was not very good. The extras were really not helpful to the point where I tipped only $20 because it was so poor. She asked for another twenty doll hairs and I caved because I wanted to get out of there. Several other places have peaked my interest so I will be trying those spots.I couldn't agree more. Went one evening after being spooked at Luna by a white SUV with dark windows sitting out front. Went in, met Sophia and thought it was going to be great. She's cute, bubbly, and we've all seen the good reviews. She comes in, start a half ass massage full of belches, and even a rank fart. She's acting kind of Goofy and I'm thinking I need to get the fuck out of here. She seems drunk or something. She asks if I want to F, I say no thanks, just a HE. She finishes, then lays down on my chest and I have to ask her to get a hot towel so I can get the hell out of there. As I walk out, I see the box of wine that she must've been sipping on. I'll never go back.
RunForGold
01-08-19, 15:54
I couldn't agree more. Went one evening after being spooked at Luna by a white SUV with dark windows sitting out front. Went in, met Sophia and thought it was going to be great. She's cute, bubbly, and we've all seen the good reviews. She comes in, start a half ass massage full of belches, and even a rank fart. She's acting kind of Goofy and I'm thinking I need to get the fuck out of here. She seems drunk or something. She asks if I want to F, I say no thanks, just a HE. She finishes, then lays down on my chest and I have to ask her to get a hot towel so I can get the hell out of there. As I walk out, I see the box of wine that she must've been sipping on. I'll never go back.Visited recently, rushed into room, no massage at all, straight to business, terrible experience. Shop is dirty, smells dirty, just not an inviting place to visit, especially with the variety of choices we have. While getting dressed I wanted to see if the towel was changed or the 'mesh / gauze' throwaway sheet was discarded and another rolled out. NO! She just straightened every thing up, folded the towel and walked me to the door, never to return again.
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Couple of us guys coming to Indy Friday night. Any reliable place to get decent rubdown w HE?
GeezerGlide
01-09-19, 09:33
Any body tried here?
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/new-young-girl-coming-best-massage-in-town-rose-spa-317-617-3163-12646398Search the forum using "rose". Many reviews.
Geezer.
Toronto and Montreal. In US, LA is great as is NYC.My vote would go to Philly. Gorgeous girls. And you get so much more "bang" for the buck (compared the Indy). Yet, I'm still hoping to find "the one" -- haven't given up completely on Indy.
But Toronto sounds very interesting.
Indy had a Korean place in an office plaza next to the car dealerships on 96th near Keystone. Wonder where they relocated to.
Thanks guys.
Do women ever go to a massage parlor and ask for a happy ending from another female? AMP or otherwise? Or is it just guys that ask for this? I know a lady that would be interested in this.
MyFriend31
01-10-19, 10:31
Do women ever go to a massage parlor and ask for a happy ending from another female? AMP or otherwise? Or is it just guys that ask for this? I know a lady that would be interested in this.I am very good friends with several AMP girls that speak ok English and they have told me that they have given HE to women before. It is likely that if you are getting a HE where you visit she would be able to be satisfied there also. Good luck.
So I tried a masseuse coming to the hotel room once for a gal pal who elected to freak out. The moral (not that there are morals here) is that you need to know she's into another woman's touch.
Do women ever go to a massage parlor and ask for a happy ending from another female? AMP or otherwise? Or is it just guys that ask for this? I know a lady that would be interested in this.
Phoenixxx2123
01-10-19, 19:15
I decided to take a trip out west off 56th. The parlor was very nice. It was the set up with the unlocked public door, counter, and the locked door to enter the massage rooms. I chose this particular spot because I wanted a table shower and coco has nice tits. I did call before going to make sure she was there. Once I got there I ask for her and she was available. She wasn't dressed sexy at all but I would give her a 7/10 in looks and body. The tits are beautiful!! I love large natural tits and hers are nice and plump. The massage was your standard table shower with tease and some tug, massage, and flip. On flip she did pull out the girls. I'm not a prostate guy but she attempted and I opted out. I didn't attempt FIV because tits out and good tug made me pop. The only cons is their HHR is 50 and she was recovering from a cold or in the beginnings. I wasn't mad because she looked nice and the tits are great. Total out of pocket. 90.
IndyGolfer60
01-10-19, 21:29
Tried Scrubs again tonight around 7 PM. Diffrent gals than last time, both dress in sweat pants, yonger spinner types. Went ahead and took HHR. Undressed and laid face down, took her longer than normal to come in. Asked right away about firmness and I took Medium. She started in front of me and worked my back, I waited about five minutes and moved my hands to her legs and she quickly moved them away not in a bad way but just in away to let me know touching wasn't allowed. She spent alot of time on my whole back side even my ass and inner thighs but never touched him. I thought she said turn over so I did then she said done, I said done and she said yes 7:30 so I said ok and she left the room. The massage was good only thing keeping it being great she missed the shoulders and no teasing. I left a. 2 on the table because it was a good massage, but when she hadn't came back in by time I was dressed I picked it up. When I left the room she was waiting for me with a warm bottle of water and I thanked her, no hug or asked for tip was given. A little disapointed after my last vist about 10 days ago. I will give it another try unless I hear it has changed and become like the one and Beach Grove which was the last time I had struck out.
Tried Scrubs again tonight around 7 PM. Diffrent gals than last time, both dress in sweat pants, yonger spinner types. Went ahead and took HHR. Undressed and laid face down, took her longer than normal to come in. Asked right away about firmness and I took Medium. She started in front of me and worked my back, I waited about five minutes and moved my hands to her legs and she quickly moved them away not in a bad way but just in away to let me know touching wasn't allowed. She spent alot of time on my whole back side even my ass and inner thighs but never touched him. I thought she said turn over so I did then she said done, I said done and she said yes 7:30 so I said ok and she left the room. The massage was good only thing keeping it being great she missed the shoulders and no teasing. I left a. 2 on the table because it was a good massage, but when she hadn't came back in by time I was dressed I picked it up. When I left the room she was waiting for me with a warm bottle of water and I thanked her, no hug or asked for tip was given. A little disapointed after my last vist about 10 days ago. I will give it another try unless I hear it has changed and become like the one and Beach Grove which was the last time I had struck out.As far as I am concerned, you did us all a service. You paid for a 30 min. Massage and received one. "all done. " No tip given, none requested. Fair transaction. I hope all AMPs read what you wrote.
BeanTowner78
01-12-19, 10:32
Went mid-week, everyone's favorite Wei Wei was not back, but two pretty attractive ladies were available. Took the hour with Ci Ci. Again, both girls looked to be in their late 20's / early 30's, nice bodies, attractive with a nice smile. Ci Ci's English was passable, asked for a medium massage and got what I requested. After the flip a little UTC on top and standard ending. Didn't get a feeling one way or the other if more was available as she got to know you.
Two problems with this location. One is its location, neighboring businesses are quite active and two, they rotate the masseuses quite often. Just when you get comfortable and friendly with one she's gone.
I'll be in Indianapolis for a few days. Anyone have any recommendations for FS places? So far from research I've done Phoenix is a good bet. Any other places worth trying? PM me if you want.
Two problems with this location. One is its location, neighboring businesses are quite active and two, they rotate the masseuses quite often. Just when you get comfortable and friendly with one she's gone.Indy is not the best opportunity for these girls. There is a higher risk of getting busted here, which can kill any chance for them to get a green card. Also, Indy has way too many massage parlors for them to make the kind of money they can make other places. They often only work here until a better opportunity opens up. Cindy, who was at QSpa, went out west for better money. She made good money here but said she could make twice as much there. She was already making about twice what I make.
LipService53
01-12-19, 22:09
Several weeks ago I was traveling through Indy and decided to try her place. I was greeted by the mamasan and led to a room but as I was getting ready to lie down for an hour massage a younger woman literally barged in the room and demanded payment. I gave her the $60.00 but she demanded an extra 40 for the tip. I told her I wasn't going to tip for services not yet rendered and she replied; "That's not how we do things here". Of course I told her to just give me my money back, which she was reluctantly did. Ranks as one of the worst experiences I've had. Hope YMV's.
IndyGolfer60
01-13-19, 07:48
Several weeks ago I was traveling through Indy and decided to try her place. I was greeted by the mamasan and led to a room but as I was getting ready to lie down for an hour massage a younger woman literally barged in the room and demanded payment. I gave her the $60.00 but she demanded an extra 40 for the tip. I told her I wasn't going to tip for services not yet rendered and she replied; "That's not how we do things here". Of course I told her to just give me my money back, which she was reluctantly did. Ranks as one of the worst experiences I've had. Hope YMV's.Wonder why the mamasan didn't take the house money.
RedFox2120
01-13-19, 18:23
Went to Sweet and it was overall kind of good. Workers was a 5/10 50+. Petite woman. Small breasts, 80's style hair, and decent little butt. Massage was a 0/10. She was just rubbing my back with some oil. No pressure. It was like a light touch. She also was just wandering between my ass and balls. After 5 minutes I just flip and tell her let's go.
The main is wide open. I partook in everything. This service was more like a 7/10. I should have just gotten the half hour and saved myself a 20. Overall she could take it in every position and and there was no rushing. She even let me do foot fetish stuff. She was definitely drunk or had been drinking cause she smelled like booze.
Overall I would repeat if I could get it cheaper. At 1. 40 with tip it's kind of expensive. You can get the hotel Asians for that and not worry about customers walking in.
GeezerGlide
01-13-19, 18:39
All previous reports proven true with my hhr visit. Amy is a nice girl on the curvy side and 5/10 looks. The massage was fantastic with the appropriate amount of light tease. On the flip I went for the full package but she wasn't having it. Did UTC on top but didn't below. Did not partake of the TS but rest of the trip was great. Will return when back in that part of town.
Geezer.
Can anybody help a brother out here? I went near there a Long time ago and it was nothing to write home about. But AMPs can change like the weather. Can anybody pm me about any recent visits? I can trade if you want.
Wonder why the mamasan didn't take the house money.Yeah, I'm skeptical of this one. I can't remember all the AMPs I've been to, not to mention all the repeat visits. Never has anyone left me in the room without first collecting payment for the massage. Of course, these days I just pull out my $60 and tell them before they can ask.
I've never had one ask for a tip before the massage begins either. Although, I've heard a few people say it's happened to them. Mostly these days, I don't get asked about the tip, I just hand over what I feel it was worth, collect my hug and head for the door.
RoadHog1980
01-14-19, 13:19
I was driving through Fishers and saw Wei Wei was back. She is good, but I have never received anything beyond the usual. If more is to be had, pm me and share. Same for Dandy. It has been a long time since my last visit and reviews are sparse. If more is to be had, pm.
I was driving through Fishers and saw Wei Wei was back. She is good, but I have never received anything beyond the usual. If more is to be had, pm me and share. Same for Dandy. It has been a long time since my last visit and reviews are sparse. If more is to be had, pm.Hey all. First time caller, long time listener. Thanks to all the solid info in the past and I happily RTFF.
I'm glad to hear Wei Wei is back, I should've seen her today instead of my chosen excursion to Bash. I've had some standard relief from her and Kiki in Oz with great massages and teases but haven't been since the recent turnover. I've previously had similar service at Shadeland A but from less attractive providers. But I haven't been there for months.
So I actually met Cindy at Dandy for the first time today for a hhr. Massage was good, plenty of OTC roaming allowed, a little teasing but not quite enough to force a soldier to attention. Nothing on the flip. Asked if extra help was available and she politely responded no. She placed new linens afterward and I can confirm the previously mentioned giggling. I'm relatively new at this and partake infrequently so I go elsewhere in the future.
NapTownStud
01-14-19, 22:31
Tried Dahlia spa for the second time today. First time, good table shower and a great massage from Christie (She was friendly and spoke good english. Went back and Christie answered the door again. And again I had a great massage with no extras whatsoever. She made sure to let me know that they don't do that there, after I ponied up for the full hour and communicated my intent. But hey, if you're looking for a good massage, Christie at Dahlia ain't bad.
IndyGolfer60
01-15-19, 06:50
I had stopped going after the reports changed thinkng my lady was gone, but after the last report thought I would try it out again. Walked in yesterday afternoon and she greeted me with a hug and led me in. I undresssed and laid on my stomach since the massage is a wait of time. She came in and grabbed my little man and looked down at me and I pointed to her lips and she asked how much I said. 6 and she asked for. 8 and I said. 6 was all I had. She said ok and walked over and got a wrapper and came back and put him on while I was pulling down her pants and panties so I could fiv. She proceeded to give me a great BJ while comming on my FIV. Back to my goto place when I want head and elsewhere when I want a massage and a HE.
So are you going to tell us the name of this place and the lady? PM if you want.
I had stopped going after the reports changed thinkng my lady was gone, but after the last report thought I would try it out again. Walked in yesterday afternoon and she greeted me with a hug and led me in. I undresssed and laid on my stomach since the massage is a wait of time. She came in and grabbed my little man and looked down at me and I pointed to her lips and she asked how much I said. 6 and she asked for. 8 and I said. 6 was all I had. She said ok and walked over and got a wrapper and came back and put him on while I was pulling down her pants and panties so I could fiv. She proceeded to give me a great BJ while comming on my FIV. Back to my goto place when I want head and elsewhere when I want a massage and a HE.
Bjcim Seeker
01-15-19, 16:31
I don't know the exact name but it is in strip mall by krogers 161st & SM. It is super convenient for me and I work out a few business down in the strip mall. I really didn't even notice it was there as foot massage AMPs don't catch my eye usually. But last week heading in to work out I saw a middle aged man walk out with his head down. Maybe just a hunch extras may be offered.
Well I looked over reviews to find a legit AMP, one on Bradley looked promising, so off I went. Took 1 hour option with a table shower. Table shower was nice but no teasing and had to washlittle Pete myself which was fine with me. Massage was very good and I found myself in a zombie sleep state. Nothing was offered and I ask for nothing. Good legit massage. 60 for the hour and 20 for tip. I walked out and across the street in a white ram pickup was some body doing a little surveillance work. I took a pic of him while he was taking a pic of me. I circled back around and saw truck leaving And I followed him directly to cpd building. Way to go cpd! Let's waste time doing surveillance work on a legit AMP and let the current drug problem overrun chs. I hope I didn't have any food in my teeth.
Georgebrown
01-15-19, 23:33
Was headed to gym and popped in at Luna. Asked for Sophie as I had yet to meet her although I have been there a few times during the holiday season. She gave a great massage. Very firm and used forearms to really get things loosened up. I was enjoying the massage so much I didn't push the envelop except to let her know I was up for fun on flip. Standard HE on flip, clean up and asked if I wanted head / neck massage. Fantastic. After scalp, she went after the neck. Stretching from left to right. Then grabbing both arms over my head. Almost pulling me off the table. Loved it. For those wanting sports massage. She does it right.
GB.
Hi guys! I've been on a LONG hiatus from the forum. Became poly, got divorced, getting remarried to a 10 years younger poly partner. That makes me sound like the villain of the piece but the ex was bonkers and I got the kids and house. She is in intensive therapy.
So, my fiancée and I are interested in finding a place to get a couples massage with extras. Or even just a place that does HE for a lady. She's really turned on by my stories of past fun in the AMP world and wants to give it a shot.
Any suggestions, whether AMP or an escort, shoot me a PM!
Keepinitclean
01-16-19, 19:29
So are you going to tell us the name of this place and the lady? PM if you want.Sweet is literally the name.
Bjcim Seeker
01-16-19, 21:14
I don't know the exact name but it is in strip mall by krogers 161st & SM. It is super convenient for me and I work out a few business down in the strip mall. I really didn't even notice it was there as foot massage AMPs don't catch my eye usually. But last week heading in to work out I saw a middle aged man walk out with his head down. Maybe just a hunch extras may be offered.I believe the AMP on 32 (Oasis?) in Westfield is no extras so I am not holding my breath on this one . It's just so convenient for me and wouldn't need to worry about the old lady and GPSing me since I am at that strip mall a lot.
I don't know the exact name but it is in strip mall by krogers 161st & SM. It is super convenient for me and I work out a few business down in the strip mall. I really didn't even notice it was there as foot massage AMPs don't catch my eye usually. But last week heading in to work out I saw a middle aged man walk out with his head down. Maybe just a hunch extras may be offered.The therapy is done in a large open room with everyone else. No extras are available.
Goatee1456
01-16-19, 23:44
The therapy is done in a large open room with everyone else. No extras are available.Last time I was there they had two private rooms but the walls are thin or don't go all the way to the ceiling. Older women only and the last one I had left me bruised on back, calves, hamstrings and quads. If you like truly deep tissue it is not bad. But no extras and I personally will avoid.
GreatWhite123
01-17-19, 12:13
I am a long time viewer and a first time poster. Today I visited what I can only imagine was Ruby because it said it right on the window. I got there right after they opened hoping to get right in but I had been beating to the punch. When I got in I was greeted by a nice women probably at least 40 years old. She took me to my room and told me to wait 10 minutes. I got undressed and laid down. It was almost 15 minutes later that I was seen. She covered my whole body with a towel for about 15 minutes. She did allow OTC roaming underneath but yet I was covered up so I thought it was a lost cause. Until suddenly she threw the towel down and it was a full on tease fest. Tickled the balls, grabbed Jr. It was great. Then it wasn't until I flipped over that I realized the this girls was not the same one that greater me. This was a mid 20's 7/10 who's name was ViVi. Nice little ass great perky tits, and little more meat on the bones than most would prefer but I didn't mind. She brushed her hands around my stomach and my package and would play with my dick until it was standing high. Allowed lots of UTC roaming up top and only OTC on bottom. She said 60 for a top less HJ but I only had 40 on me because I'm pretty sure I was gouged 20 bucks for the house fee. So we did a standard HJ with some kissing and lots of attention to the balls. In and out for 80.
Cravin1969
01-17-19, 17:14
Stopped by there today just to check it out. Beautiful asian woman was at the desk. Inquired about price for massage and foot massage. I did a search on here but nothing came up. No shower available there. The attendant at the desk gives the massage. Just wondered if anyone has tried it. She was a stunningly beautiful asian that I'd love to taste. 10 in my book. May have to take one for the team on this one. Happy hunting my fellow mongers.
BeanTowner78
01-17-19, 17:51
Planned to stop by Ruby's today, but as I pulled into the lot, around 3:45, noticed one of Fishers Finest in an unmarked vehicle. Probably wouldn't have noticed except I recognized the guy and know what he does for a living. With all the foot traffic in and out of the spa and it's proximity to the martial arts studio and store / restaurant (who's owner really dislikes the spa) it's no wonder the place is getting some attention.
Be safe.
I am a long time viewer and a first time poster. Today I visited what I can only imagine was Ruby because it said it right on the window. I got there right after they opened hoping to get right in but I had been beating to the punch. When I got in I was greeted by a nice women probably at least 40 years old. She took me to my room and told me to wait 10 minutes. I got undressed and laid down. It was almost 15 minutes later that I was seen. She covered my whole body with a towel for about 15 minutes. She did allow OTC roaming underneath but yet I was covered up so I thought it was a lost cause. Until suddenly she threw the towel down and it was a full on tease fest. Tickled the balls, grabbed Jr. It was great. Then it wasn't until I flipped over that I realized the this girls was not the same one that greater me. This was a mid 20's 7/10 who's name was ViVi. Nice little ass great perky tits, and little more meat on the bones than most would prefer but I didn't mind. She brushed her hands around my stomach and my package and would play with my dick until it was standing high. Allowed lots of UTC roaming up top and only OTC on bottom. She said 60 for a top less HJ but I only had 40 on me because I'm pretty sure I was gouged 20 bucks for the house fee. So we did a standard HJ with some kissing and lots of attention to the balls. In and out for 80.Are sure the name wasn't "We We" (I think it's actually spelled Wei Wei)? Your description doesn't exactly fit her. I'd never ever describe her as having "more meat on her bones than most would prefer" (tho I would say she is nicely curved), and I'd probably score her an 8 or 9, and put her in her 30's. Nice ass, and perky tits are dead on tho, and it's all subjective. Your description of the session kinda sounds like her.
So in and out for 80, with 40 tip. Did this include getting "gouged"? The standard fee for 30 minutes is $40.
Planned to stop by Ruby's today, but as I pulled into the lot, around 3:45, noticed one of Fishers Finest in an unmarked vehicle. Probably wouldn't have noticed except I recognized the guy and know what he does for a living. With all the foot traffic in and out of the spa and it's proximity to the martial arts studio and store / restaurant (who's owner really dislikes the spa) it's no wonder the place is getting some attention.
Be safe.I thought Ruby was in beech grove.
Two reports to share, haven't been able to get on here much. First, was ten days back. Went to the sweet spot on franklin next to arby's. Was givin a girl I had not seen before. Linda she said. Cute petite. Pretty good massage and the teasing was exquisite. Went on forever. Nice finish. OTC and UTC but not sure if anything else was available. Best I've had in a while.
Tuesday went to the spa on 16th near the brickyard. Car in lot and another backing out. Was told comeback in an hour. Instead I went south to the palindrome place First time there. Cute girl 7/10 good english. Goes by Hanna. Very good massage nice tease and finish. Not much in the way of roaming. Both cases standard one hour plus standard tip.
AchyBreaky
01-18-19, 19:34
Stopped in at you spa and was shocked by the two attendants. 0/10 and 60+ in age meant I couldn't get out of there fast enough. Headed down the road to Luna, and got a HH with coco, tall, lean and 8/10. She delivered a wonderful massage with UTC on top only. Ended shooting ropes after extended finish! I plan to repeat.
Met with Victoria, in call. Looks like her pics, little thinner actually. Great head game, no FS available, very friendly and personable. Would definitely repeat.
I thought Ruby was in beech grove.Nope. It's in fishers. 116th street. Google search Ruby Spa.
Don't remember the name of the place. Just east of 465 on 10th, south side of road. The lady that met me at the door used to work at NiNi on 71's street (a couple of years ago). A little older, but I actually prefer that if the provider has a nice body and gives good massage (yes to both), so I went for the hour. She was wearing loose shorts, so access was easy and she allowed full roaming during the massage. On the flip, she took off her clothes and let me have my way with her. Didn't mention tip at all, but I'm guessing she remembered me from NiNi, and knew I'd take care of her. When we finished, she accepted what I gave her with a smile and a thank you. Overall a very good experience.
Bjcim Seeker
01-19-19, 11:31
It's hard to search this place bc of the generic name but I know this place in Castleton has been discussed before. I have seen Amy & Bianca there for totally uncovered massage but no hint of extras. Wasn't sure if anyone has luck with other ladies. There's a new girl there named Erica and looks a little more rough around the edges than the others.
LipService53
01-20-19, 07:39
Yeah, I'm skeptical of this one. I can't remember all the AMPs I've been to, not to mention all the repeat visits. Never has anyone left me in the room without first collecting payment for the massage. Of course, these days I just pull out my $60 and tell them before they can ask.
I've never had one ask for a tip before the massage begins either. Although, I've heard a few people say it's happened to them. Mostly these days, I don't get asked about the tip, I just hand over what I feel it was worth, collect my hug and head for the door.The whole experience was strange. The place was pitch black inside so I didn't even think it was open but knocked on the door anyway. Sunny eventually opened the door but still no lights. She just took off without saying a word and I had to follow her going only by the sound of her feet to the room where she wanted me to go. Part of the problem was it actually was very sunny outside that day and my eyes didn't have time to adjust to the darkness inside and I tried to tell her that hoping she would slow down but to no avail. I hit my head on a partially open interior door that I couldn't see so by the time we got to the room I was already unnerved somewhat.
I agree, as a newcomer to a place 99 percent of the time I'm asked to pay upfront, but I even introduced myself and called Sunny by name. Silence. Not a word. She simply left the room. I also noticed some older Asian man aimlessly walking around a dimly lit room in the back of the business but had no idea what that was about.
Overall a rather strange and confusing experience for this seasoned hobbyist.
Needed some relief on a cold snowy Sat night so I made a late night stop at the "you" and this older "therapist" met me at the door. I inquired about the 4 hand. 6 massage but she claimed she was alone. Immediately told her no thanks and started to leave when she practically tried to pull me back to a room LOL. I managed to pull away and headed east to Luna. The entire big ass parking lot was virtually empty. Was greeted by Sophie. 5/10 in looks and that's being nice IMO. Discussed 4 hand but wasn't ready to drop 110 for 4 hands so I settled on her 2. Table was harder then I like but massage was 8/10 and really did work out a few kinks I had so I already felt it was a win even before the teasing began. And man did it begin. Waist up massage was complete and she grabbed the oil and lathered up my right leg and cheek. A few min later I assist with a rear lift and was greeted by a 2 hand rear rubdown of the beans and frank and a little brown eye goosing to top it off for a good 10 min. On the flip nothing was said or asked as all was understood. Right leg was propped up a little and 5 min later and a quick finger poke in my brown eye I roped 6 or 7 shots all over. It was a mess. She was quite happy with her work and so was I. 2 hot towels later she rubbed out the rest of my kinks and I was off to my truck with 2 handfuls of candy. Standard $ on the finish. Will repeat. Went down hard in the parking lot. I'll live. BTW I'm not new. Just a new handle. I'm old school AF but it's been awhile since I visited an AMP. Contacted Kaitlyn and Isabelle and both responded. Decided on an AMP to get my feet wet again. Would love to hear some recommendations on those 2 ladies though If anybody would like to help a monger out?
Karma out. AKA Acillatem.
IndyGolfer60
01-21-19, 08:14
Stopped by Ruyi in Beach Grove on Saturday afternoon around 2:15 and she said she had a 2:30 come back around 3:30 . I forgot how beautiful she was. I don't know if she is till massage only or not but I have got to try one more time.
Went by sweet on Sunday Morning but there was a vehicle in the lot all ready sure get his pipes cleaned. Hoping to get out somewhere today.
Its been awhile since I went by the Sweet but some of the reviews on here were good I got there and was met by an older massuse but liked it when she took me to the back room which I have read was good Wasn't much of a massage but the teasing and CBJ was excellent menu was wide open but what I got was very good. 4 for hhr and. 6 tip A couple of days later I went by the Palindrome which wasn't a good experience the last time I went As I have noticed over the years things do change I got the younger one (which I didn't like the last time) Paid $ for 90 min and the massage was 7/10 with lots of teasing and milking which I really like before the flip Standard HE with OTC left. 6 tip and will return.
Met with Victoria, in call. Looks like her pics, little thinner actually. Great head game, no FS available, very friendly and personable. Would definitely repeat.Sounds intriguing. Can you provide a link or other info? Thank you very much, and PM is fine too if you prefer.
Luckyshamrock
01-21-19, 12:09
Indy Gents- I'll be passing through Friday morning. Any recos on a nice massage? Cincy is struggling these days. Thanks in advance.
Member #6276
01-21-19, 15:09
I've seen her a few times. It's definitely YMMV. I had self service at first but liked her massage. Then she got weird and started demanding a tip up front, which I wouldn't do. She sends emails all the time now advertising "good top views" for $125. I'll pass.
Several weeks ago I was traveling through Indy and decided to try her place. I was greeted by the mamasan and led to a room but as I was getting ready to lie down for an hour massage a younger woman literally barged in the room and demanded payment. I gave her the $60.00 but she demanded an extra 40 for the tip. I told her I wasn't going to tip for services not yet rendered and she replied; "That's not how we do things here". Of course I told her to just give me my money back, which she was reluctantly did. Ranks as one of the worst experiences I've had. Hope YMV's.
IndyGolfer60
01-21-19, 16:13
I stopped by there today around 12:30 since it had been a while and there was also already to vehicles at sweet. I got the older lady little bigger probaly a 6/10. She was sitting at te counter and came around to greet me. She was wearing a short Jean skirt nde nylons and black boots. So I decided to stay since I was in need of a really good massage. She took me back to the room and I gave her the. 4 When she came back she took off her boots and go on the side of the bed and started giving me the most wonderful medium massage. She then walked around the front and got up over my head and worked the center of my back. She went to the other side and did te same thing. She then worked my legs and teased me while doing my rear. She allowed roaming up under her skirt through the nylons. On the flip she did the hand motion with a smile and I said yes and she said how much and I held up 4 fingers and she ask for. 6 and I said I only had. 4 she siad ok and went to work wile was working on her clit through her nylons. While she isn't the perttest I would repeat just for the service.
Cravin1969
01-21-19, 22:44
I took one for the team today. Called and set an appointment. When I got there the beautiful 10 I seen the other day was not there. I got a 40 yr. Old with pixy hair cut. Dressed in all black skirt. 4/10 on looks. Nice body. I asked to use the bathroom before starting the massage. There's an open room that's not visible until you go past the desk up front. 6 beds in that open area with a male and female giving face massages. Massage was in a private area with a door. Got a full body massage with hot stones. Heated bed with nice linen. Covered the whole time except for area being worked on. Missed the upper legs and ass completely while face down. On the flip completely covered again. No hint of extras at all. Nice massage but kind of pricey at 75 with hot stones for the hour. Happy hunting.
I took one for the team today. Called and set an appointment. When I got there the beautiful 10 I seen the other day was not there. I got a 40 yr. Old with pixy hair cut. Dressed in all black skirt. 4/10 on looks. Nice body. I asked to use the bathroom before starting the massage. There's an open room that's not visible until you go past the desk up front. 6 beds in that open area with a male and female giving face massages. Massage was in a private area with a door. Got a full body massage with hot stones. Heated bed with nice linen. Covered the whole time except for area being worked on. Missed the upper legs and ass completely while face down. On the flip completely covered again. No hint of extras at all. Nice massage but kind of pricey at 75 with hot stones for the hour. Happy hunting.I've only gambled once on a place that I couldn't tell if it was a traditional AMP we all know and love or a legit massage place. And it happened to be this same place. I left feeling the same as you. It wasn't as good as a legitimate professional massage, but I got no clear hints of extras available. So I can't say definitively if more can be had or not. Iirc, the woman I got was probably also a 40 something with above average AMP provider body.
Just below 465 on the north side I tried a newer place in a plaza with a weird name. Got a therapist that was new from new york. I took the hour. Body of therapist was decent, big tatas, face was not great. The massage was not really good, but OK. I think she was on a stimulant of some kind as her pace was just too quick to be relaxing. Pressure was also not deep enough to be therapeutic. On the flip the top came down and I fondled her chest while she rubbed my cock. Total was $. Wouldn't repeat.
Needed some relief on a cold snowy Sat night so I made a late night stop at the "you" and this older "therapist" met me at the door. I inquired about the 4 hand. 6 massage but she claimed she was alone. Immediately told her no thanks and started to leave when she practically tried to pull me back to a room LOL. I managed to pull away and headed east to Luna. The entire big ass parking lot was virtually empty. Was greeted by Sophie. 5/10 in looks and that's being nice IMO. Discussed 4 hand but wasn't ready to drop 110 for 4 hands so I settled on her 2. Table was harder then I like but massage was 8/10 and really did work out a few kinks I had so I already felt it was a win even before the teasing began. And man did it begin. Waist up massage was complete and she grabbed the oil and lathered up my right leg and cheek. A few min later I assist with a rear lift and was greeted by a 2 hand rear rubdown of the beans and frank and a little brown eye goosing to top it off for a good 10 min. On the flip nothing was said or asked as all was understood. Right leg was propped up a little and 5 min later and a quick finger poke in my brown eye I roped 6 or 7 shots all over. It was a mess. She was quite happy with her work and so was I. 2 hot towels later she rubbed out the rest of my kinks and I was off to my truck with 2 handfuls of candy. Standard $ on the finish. Will repeat. Went down hard in the parking lot. I'll live. BTW I'm not new. Just a new handle. I'm old school AF but it's been awhile since I visited an AMP. Contacted Kaitlyn and Isabelle and both responded. Decided on an AMP to get my feet wet again. Would love to hear some recommendations on those 2 ladies though If anybody would like to help a monger out?
Karma out. AKA Acillatem.Before the blood moon eclipse I checked out Luna on another previous good report. I got a short troll. The massage was so limited, it was only lotion rubbed around my back. There was no attention to the legs, zero tease before flip. She had to get the front door and phone twice during session. Overall, the massage, service, body, attitude were all really poor.
Recently I have been trying many new places, but my trips are all like good college basketball players, one and done! I would like to discover a new regular, but am afraid the woman coming to indy are getting older, yet less experienced. Will be cutting back and saving money for trips.
IndyGolfer60
01-24-19, 09:04
Don't remember the name of the place. Just east of 465 on 10th, south side of road. The lady that met me at the door used to work at NiNi on 71's street (a couple of years ago). A little older, but I actually prefer that if the provider has a nice body and gives good massage (yes to both), so I went for the hour. She was wearing loose shorts, so access was easy and she allowed full roaming during the massage. On the flip, she took off her clothes and let me have my way with her. Didn't mention tip at all, but I'm guessing she remembered me from NiNi, and knew I'd take care of her. When we finished, she accepted what I gave her with a smile and a thank you. Overall a very good experience.Stopped by here yesterday afternoon between Franklin and Post in little block of buildings next to shell station on sout side of the road. I took the hhr and report is spot on and I rembered her from NiNi as well. Will repeat.
JustCin369
01-24-19, 09:29
Any good massages to be had in greenwood area??
Hey guys new to forum and just moved in town, saw this place off 75th Shadeland. East side in mall strip, was trying to find info on it, girls look pretty nice. Didn't know how friendly they were. Thanks!
RedFox2120
01-24-19, 16:51
Stopped by here yesterday afternoon between Franklin and Post in little block of buildings next to shell station on sout side of the road. I took the hhr and report is spot on and I rembered her from NiNi as well. Will repeat.Is this the girl with the weird eye make up? The fake lashes on the eye lids?
Hey guys new to forum and just moved in town, saw this place off 75th Shadeland. East side in mall strip, was trying to find info on it, girls look pretty nice. Didn't know how friendly they were. Thanks!Models Massage. You can search the forum and google for reviews. The menu you see is the menu you get.
Is this the girl with the weird eye make up? The fake lashes on the eye lids?No, the girl you are describing was at NiNi after the one described in my earlier post.
Place that hasn't been reported on here was at yesterday. Nice place that does hot stones and very under the rader. Was getting massage and started getting a he out of the blue. Funny thing was all kind of woman and me in and out. Love when you just go for the massage and surprise.
RonBurgIndy
01-24-19, 18:28
OMG OMG OMG. Ok, now that I've caught my breath, the review:
My guess is she's late 30's to mid-40's, short, fit, nice set of boobs, tight little bubble butt and I'd say 6-7/10 on the AMP scale. She was wearing some kind of yoga pant and a cute top. I was going to take the hhr but when I met her I threw. 6 at the house for the hr and she took me into the room. Once undressed, she came in and spread out the towel, ran her hands up and down my skin, teased my butt a little, smacked it, and complimented it. Cool move, lady, cool move. She asked me light-medium-hard and I asked for medium to hard. Her hard is pretty damn hard and her hands are f'and strong. I had her ease back to medium, which hit many knots. She got on the table and was on her hands and knees working up and down on top of my legs, butt, and back. When I say on top, I mean knees on legs, elbows on back, working all over the place. It was pretty fun and very therapeutic. While on my belly, I got some OTC roaming and she was very responsive. When she got to my lower body, she did this teasing thing where she would run her hands underneath to the front of my thighs and it drove me mad. On occasion, she did tease my monger ass quite a bit as well. At the conclusion of the traditional massage, she did the typical hot towel cleanup, then I heard the tell-tale double-pump of massage oil.
As the oil drizzled down my ass to my boys, she began to do a slow, soft tease of rubbing it in everywhere. At once, both hands were on me, one teasing my balloon knot and the other alternating between the boys and the captain. I actually didn't realize her finger was inside until I felt pressure against the p-spot. Some of you guys aren't into it, and that's cool, but if you are. She is definitely into it. Word of warning, if you don't like to be finger-f**ked, speak up, she gets a little excited and pumps too much instead of slowing down. Something I'll better coach her on next time. At this point, the other hand was clamped on the captain and was doing a fantastic job of bringing him to attention, and I was really enjoying it. She then said to turn over, and I obliged. She drizzled oil over my throbbing member and went to work on it, and before I knew it she was working the p-spot again, her hand slowly increasing in speed until it was a blur. About the time I felt the tell-tale swelling from within, she became really excited and said "yes, fucking cum, yes, oh fucking cum!" She pressed and pumped until I was completely drained from a trembling release.
She hadn't asked for a tip amount, so I gave the standard. 4 and she looked pleased. I filled out a frequent flyer card "Ron B" as that is of course my real name. Will repeat when I've rested and replenished the troops.
RBI.
RonBurgIndy
01-24-19, 18:32
Any more hints would be much appreciated. Inbox me please if you can.
RBI.
Place that hasn't been reported on here was at yesterday. Nice place that does hot stones and very under the rader. Was getting massage and started getting a he out of the blue. Funny thing was all kind of woman and me in and out. Love when you just go for the massage and surprise.
Whats the name of this place sounds good PM if you want thanks.
Niceguy.
OMG OMG OMG. Ok, now that I've caught my breath, the review:
My guess is she's late 30's to mid-40's, short, fit, nice set of boobs, tight little bubble butt and I'd say 6-7/10 on the AMP scale. She was wearing some kind of yoga pant and a cute top. I was going to take the hhr but when I met her I threw. 6 at the house for the hr and she took me into the room. Once undressed, she came in and spread out the towel, ran her hands up and down my skin, teased my butt a little, smacked it, and complimented it. Cool move, lady, cool move. She asked me light-medium-hard and I asked for medium to hard. Her hard is pretty damn hard and her hands are f'and strong. I had her ease back to medium, which hit many knots. She got on the table and was on her hands and knees working up and down on top of my legs, butt, and back. When I say on top, I mean knees on legs, elbows on back, working all over the place. It was pretty fun and very therapeutic. While on my belly, I got some OTC roaming and she was very responsive. When she got to my lower body, she did this teasing thing where she would run her hands underneath to the front of my thighs and it drove me mad. On occasion, she did tease my monger ass quite a bit as well. At the conclusion of the traditional massage, she did the typical hot towel cleanup, then I heard the tell-tale double-pump of massage oil.
As the oil drizzled down my ass to my boys, she began to do a slow, soft tease of rubbing it in everywhere. At once, both hands were on me, one teasing my balloon knot and the other alternating between the boys and the captain. I actually didn't realize her finger was inside until I felt pressure against the p-spot. Some of you guys aren't into it, and that's cool, but if you are. She is definitely into it. Word of warning, if you don't like to be finger-f**ked, speak up, she gets a little excited and pumps too much instead of slowing down. Something I'll better coach her on next time. At this point, the other hand was clamped on the captain and was doing a fantastic job of bringing him to attention, and I was really enjoying it. She then said to turn over, and I obliged. She drizzled oil over my throbbing member and went to work on it, and before I knew it she was working the p-spot again, her hand slowly increasing in speed until it was a blur. About the time I felt the tell-tale swelling from within, she became really excited and said "yes, fucking cum, yes, oh fucking cum!" She pressed and pumped until I was completely drained from a trembling release.
She hadn't asked for a tip amount, so I gave the standard. 4 and she looked pleased. I filled out a frequent flyer card "Ron B" as that is of course my real name. Will repeat when I've rested and replenished the troops.
RBI.
I must say I'll fully endorse RonBurgIndy's report. Not much I can add. I really did need the massage, and she gave a good one, surprisingly strong for such a small girl.
Ron's description is spot on (down to the clothing, we must have been there the same day), but I may put her up to 8/10 for the Indy scale. Linda is one of the best / youngest I've seen in town for a while. She said she'd only been there for about a month, but in the US for 2 years, no language barrier. Dunno if more was on the menu, but I'll find out when I return.
Models Massage. You can search the forum and google for reviews. The menu you see is the menu you get.Ill search on here and find it, thanks PurleHey, I actually went in there yesterday during lunch break, Massage was so so, but they didn't initiate anything else like the Asian ones. Dunno if evening is better or not?
Place that hasn't been reported on here was at yesterday. Nice place that does hot stones and very under the rader. Was getting massage and started getting a he out of the blue. Funny thing was all kind of woman and me in and out. Love when you just go for the massage and surprise.North or south? Yep has to be a little odd to be in with all the women in and out. That only happened to me at a private practice place that is not open any more.
OMG OMG OMG. Ok, now that I've caught my breath, the review:
RBI.Thanks for the review and sounds like a lot of fun.
IndyGolfer60
01-25-19, 14:45
OMG OMG OMG. Ok, now that I've caught my breath, the review:
My guess is she's late 30's to mid-40's, short, fit, nice set of boobs, tight little bubble butt and I'd say 6-7/10 on the AMP scale. She was wearing some kind of yoga pant and a cute top. I was going to take the hhr but when I met her I threw. 6 at the house for the hr and she took me into the room. Once undressed, she came in and spread out the towel, ran her hands up and down my skin, teased my butt a little, smacked it, and complimented it. Cool move, lady, cool move. She asked me light-medium-hard and I asked for medium to hard. Her hard is pretty damn hard and her hands are f'and strong. I had her ease back to medium, which hit many knots. She got on the table and was on her hands and knees working up and down on top of my legs, butt, and back. When I say on top, I mean knees on legs, elbows on back, working all over the place. It was pretty fun and very therapeutic. While on my belly, I got some OTC roaming and she was very responsive. When she got to my lower body, she did this teasing thing where she would run her hands underneath to the front of my thighs and it drove me mad. On occasion, she did tease my monger ass quite a bit as well. At the conclusion of the traditional massage, she did the typical hot towel cleanup, then I heard the tell-tale double-pump of massage oil.
As the oil drizzled down my ass to my boys, she began to do a slow, soft tease of rubbing it in everywhere. At once, both hands were on me, one teasing my balloon knot and the other alternating between the boys and the captain. I actually didn't realize her finger was inside until I felt pressure against the p-spot. Some of you guys aren't into it, and that's cool, but if you are. She is definitely into it. Word of warning, if you don't like to be finger-f**ked, speak up, she gets a little excited and pumps too much instead of slowing down. Something I'll better coach her on next time. At this point, the other hand was clamped on the captain and was doing a fantastic job of bringing him to attention, and I was really enjoying it. She then said to turn over, and I obliged. She drizzled oil over my throbbing member and went to work on it, and before I knew it she was working the p-spot again, her hand slowly increasing in speed until it was a blur. About the time I felt the tell-tale swelling from within, she became really excited and said "yes, fucking cum, yes, oh fucking cum!" She pressed and pumped until I was completely drained from a trembling release.
She hadn't asked for a tip amount, so I gave the standard. 4 and she looked pleased. I filled out a frequent flyer card "Ron B" as that is of course my real name. Will repeat when I've rested and replenished the troops.
RBI.Been a while since I have been to BB, going to have to check it out again. Great Report.
RonBurgIndy
01-25-19, 15:01
I work out 3 x a week. That being said, my abs are feeling it today.
Been a while since I have been to BB, going to have to check it out again. Great Report.
SharkyFuns99
01-26-19, 08:57
I'm new to the Gwood area / Indiana, but was contributed in my last home. Visited a little place east of 465, between Franklin and Post. Little place on end of building beside shell station. Small and dark. The massage wasn't much to speak of, but she was very friendly and fun. The xtra attention was well worth the visit. If anyone knows anything in Greenwood, I'd appreciate the help as I'm new.
Stay safe.
I'm new to the Gwood area / Indiana, but was contributed in my last home. Visited a little place east of 465, between Franklin and Post. Little place on end of building beside shell station. Small and dark. The massage wasn't much to speak of, but she was very friendly and fun. The xtra attention was well worth the visit. If anyone knows anything in Greenwood, I'd appreciate the help as I'm new.
Stay safe.Is what sign on front of building says. Also calls it on rubmaps.
Didn't know it was there myself. Will check out when stampede slows down. Don't wear it all out guys. LOL.
IndyGolfer60
01-26-19, 16:16
Is what sign on front of building says. Also calls it on rubmaps.
Didn't know it was there myself. Will check out when stampede slows down. Don't wear it all out guys. LOL.I think that was under the previous owner and I think she has passed away. I could be wrong.
BigTimerXX1
01-26-19, 17:19
Anyone have info on this.
https://escortalligator.com.indianapolis.listcrawler.com/post/28432754/0658
Thanks.
Bigtimerxxx1.
Is what sign on front of building says. Also calls it on rubmaps.
Didn't know it was there myself. Will check out when stampede slows down. Don't wear it all out guys. LOL.Stopped there first thing this morning. Also noticed an old "Massage by Tessa" sign on the end of the building. When I saw this woman, she reminded me of one that was at Rose Spa several months ago. But at Rose, that one's voice was real squeaky.
Anyway, I took an hour. Massage was just ok. The real asset to this place is her attitude. She's fun if she's comfortable with you. Although I didn't get the nude treatment, she does allow free roaming and gets into it well.
"Q" has changed ownership recently and my petite little Amy / Jenny left this morning. The one who took her place is nice enough and has a decent body but I haven't tried out the skills of either of the two that are there. All I know, at this point, is that the bigger of the two sometimes has a larger menu. Get it while you can, this woman isn't careful enough. Her uncle will catch her before long.
MikeMichigan
01-27-19, 07:48
OMG OMG OMG. Ok, now that I've caught my breath, the review:
My guess is she's late 30's to mid-40's, short, fit, nice set of boobs, tight little bubble butt and I'd say 6-7/10 on the AMP scale. She was wearing some kind of yoga pant and a cute top. I was going to take the hhr but when I met her I threw. 6 at the house for the hr and she took me into the room. Once undressed, she came in and spread out the towel, ran her hands up and down my skin, teased my butt a little, smacked it, and complimented it. Cool move, lady, cool move. She asked me light-medium-hard and I asked for medium to hard. Her hard is pretty damn hard and her hands are f'and strong. I had her ease back to medium, which hit many knots. She got on the table and was on her hands and knees working up and down on top of my legs, butt, and back. When I say on top, I mean knees on legs, elbows on back, working all over the place. It was pretty fun and very therapeutic. While on my belly, I got some OTC roaming and she was very responsive. When she got to my lower body, she did this teasing thing where she would run her hands underneath to the front of my thighs and it drove me mad. On occasion, she did tease my monger ass quite a bit as well. At the conclusion of the traditional massage, she did the typical hot towel cleanup, then I heard the tell-tale double-pump of massage oil.
As the oil drizzled down my ass to my boys, she began to do a slow, soft tease of rubbing it in everywhere. At once, both hands were on me, one teasing my balloon knot and the other alternating between the boys and the captain. I actually didn't realize her finger was inside until I felt pressure against the p-spot. Some of you guys aren't into it, and that's cool, but if you are. She is definitely into it. Word of warning, if you don't like to be finger-f**ked, speak up, she gets a little excited and pumps too much instead of slowing down. Something I'll better coach her on next time. At this point, the other hand was clamped on the captain and was doing a fantastic job of bringing him to attention, and I was really enjoying it. She then said to turn over, and I obliged. She drizzled oil over my throbbing member and went to work on it, and before I knew it she was working the p-spot again, her hand slowly increasing in speed until it was a blur. About the time I felt the tell-tale swelling from within, she became really excited and said "yes, fucking cum, yes, oh fucking cum!" She pressed and pumped until I was completely drained from a trembling release.
She hadn't asked for a tip amount, so I gave the standard. 4 and she looked pleased. I filled out a frequent flyer card "Ron B" as that is of course my real name. Will repeat when I've rested and replenished the troops.
RBI.I was in Indy on business. I normally post in Cincy. I can confirm what was said about this place. I also drew Linda Fantastic therapeutic massage, was good enough that this would have been nice if that was all it was. Lots of OTC roaming throughout. At the end I was UTC top and bottom, so I tipped 60 for the exquisite handshake and ability to roam freely.
Great massage. I did not fill out a frequent customer card because I won't be there and also I was pressed for time. If in Indy, I will repeat.
Southernbred
01-27-19, 09:54
I saw the same thing last fall, so it's getting attention. Keep the posts and activity to minimum.
Planned to stop by Ruby's today, but as I pulled into the lot, around 3:45, noticed one of Fishers Finest in an unmarked vehicle. Probably wouldn't have noticed except I recognized the guy and know what he does for a living. With all the foot traffic in and out of the spa and it's proximity to the martial arts studio and store / restaurant (who's owner really dislikes the spa) it's no wonder the place is getting some attention.
Be safe.
Radarorielly
01-27-19, 11:05
No doubt the massage was excellent. But the new rock star therapist was just OK by my standards.
Massage 9.0.
Therapist (Looks) 5.0.
Release 8.0.
Overall 6.0.
Yummy Crab (next door) 9.0.
Everybody has there tastes. Mine was for the crab and seafood boil. It was outstanding.
WifePleezer
01-27-19, 22:29
Passing through on a long drive home any chance someone could share the name.
IndyGolfer60
01-28-19, 08:01
Passing through on a long drive home any chance someone could share the name.BB Spa is the name, also may be known as Body Balance spa.
https://www.yelp.com/biz/body-balance-spa-indianapolis
RonBurgIndy
01-28-19, 09:05
Looks like the Russian judge has weighed in! Just kidding, but begs the question who has the hottest masseuses that actually score high in other categories?
RBI.
No doubt the massage was excellent. But the new rock star therapist was just OK by my standards.
Massage 9.0.
Therapist (Looks) 5.0.
Release 8.0.
Overall 6.0.
Yummy Crab (next door) 9.0.
Everybody has there tastes. Mine was for the crab and seafood boil. It was outstanding.
Radarorielly
01-28-19, 14:13
Looks like the Russian judge has weighed in! Just kidding, but begs the question who has the hottest masseuses that actually score high in other categories?
RBI.That would be some other city. Indy gets the masseuses that the handlers can afford to lose (IE go to jail).
I had to laugh at this. For awhile there I thought everyone on this thread was referring to the place as "Bareback" Spa.
BFDeal.
BB Spa is the name, also may be known as Body Balance spa.
https://www.yelp.com/biz/body-balance-spa-indianapolis
RonBurgIndy
01-29-19, 13:53
Now that's a spa I'd visit as the first customer only!
RBI.
I had to laugh at this. For awhile there I thought everyone on this thread was referring to the place as "Bareback" Spa.
BFDeal.
Now that's a spa I'd visit as the first customer only!
RBI.You can probably file this in the category of more info than you want, but by that measure, MANY of the providers reviewed here could be renamed "bareback spa". At least the ones I've reported on.
A cold windy day thought I would get a massage, big mistake. I usually go north but because of the weather thought I would stay closer to home. I had always had pretty good luck at Phoenix in the past so this was my first stop. I was met by a fairly attractive 40 something year old Chinese lady. We got off to a pretty good start, no massage just a little five-minute rub. I told her I only wanted a HE, well that will be $, you pay now. Let me add that I always try and be kind and generous with these ladies because I know that it can be a rough job. Anyway, I told her I always tip afterwards for good service. She wasn't having any part of it so I just got up and started putting on my clothes. This is when she really started going off on me giving me a lot of lip and being very rude. She more of less shoved me out the door as I was leaving, I will not be going back. At this point drove to the muffler shop rang the door bell twice no answer by the way there were no cars in the lot. Number three went back and went into Tucson, was met by an older, overweight lady said her name was Ping, I think. Anyway, she was cordial and fun but massage and ending were average or below at best. Half way through she told me to call her tomorrow and she would give me the other thirty minutes I had paid for, yea right. When that didn't work, she said you just go to sleep for thirty minutes and I'll be right back, damn what did I do to deserve all this. Anyway, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose I guess it just wasn't my day. You might want to seriously reconsider these establishments until some things turn around.
RunForGold
01-29-19, 23:00
Ventured out to Banner St. today to sample Q Spa as it has been a long while since I've visited. Lulu was my provider, a 5 foot, 40's, petite, THAI lady, first for me. Took the hour, as usual the spa looks clean, tables are soft, and the heat was working, very warm, felt good as Lulu gave me an excellent massage. She speaks very, very little English, but is so nice and pleasant, no edge to her at all. The door was never shut, always left open a little. No teasing to speak of, flipped and she started doing my face and head and then gently led to a good HE. Some OTC touching, but nothing else was on the menu as far as I could tell, as she kept nodding to the door as if there was someone else who might be watching. It was a very relaxing adventure, wasn't shorted on time, I'll go back just to see Lulu.
I was out East yesterday & tried Luna. Not Good. She was just cold. Now I read the forum & think maybe I should have tried BB. There are so many options on the East side. I drove by U & Jump St but didn't have time to stop. I'm just interested in opinions from the East.
BB?
21 Jump Street?
U-Spa?
N-Spa?
Kings?
Franklin?
10th St?
Other?
A cold windy day thought I would get a massage, big mistake. I usually go north but because of the weather thought I would stay closer to home. I had always had pretty good luck at Phoenix in the past so this was my first stop. I was met by a fairly attractive 40 something year old Chinese lady. We got off to a pretty good start, no massage just a little five-minute rub. I told her I only wanted a HE, well that will be $, you pay now. Let me add that I always try and be kind and generous with these ladies because I know that it can be a rough job. Anyway, I told her I always tip afterwards for good service. She wasn't having any part of it so I just got up and started putting on my clothes. This is when she really started going off on me giving me a lot of lip and being very rude. She more of less shoved me out the door as I was leaving, I will not be going back. At this point drove to the muffler shop rang the door bell twice no answer by the way there were no cars in the lot. Number three went back and went into Tucson, was met by an older, overweight lady said her name was Ping, I think. Anyway, she was cordial and fun but massage and ending were average or below at best. Half way through she told me to call her tomorrow and she would give me the other thirty minutes I had paid for, yea right. When that didn't work, she said you just go to sleep for thirty minutes and I'll be right back, damn what did I do to deserve all this. Anyway, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose I guess it just wasn't my day. You might want to seriously reconsider these establishments until some things turn around.I stopped by muffler shop on Saturday and the door was locked. There was a very tiny car in the parking lot. I think it was one of those smart cars. Anyway it was closed and not sure what happened.
IndyGolfer60
01-30-19, 08:12
I was out East yesterday & tried Luna. Not Good. She was just cold. Now I read the forum & think maybe I should have tried BB. There are so many options on the East side. I drove by U & Jump St but didn't have time to stop. I'm just interested in opinions from the East.
BB?
21 Jump Street?
U-Spa?
N-Spa?
Kings?
Franklin?
10th St?
Other?BB.
You-SPA.
Kings.
10th ST.
Rose around 15th and Post.
It was open Sun and yesterday.
I stopped by muffler shop on Saturday and the door was locked. There was a very tiny car in the parking lot. I think it was one of those smart cars. Anyway it was closed and not sure what happened.
A cold windy day thought I would get a massage, big mistake. I usually go north but because of the weather thought I would stay closer to home. I had always had pretty good luck at Phoenix in the past so this was my first stop. I was met by a fairly attractive 40 something year old Chinese lady. We got off to a pretty good start, no massage just a little five-minute rub. I told her I only wanted a HE, well that will be $, you pay now. Let me add that I always try and be kind and generous with these ladies because I know that it can be a rough job. Anyway, I told her I always tip afterwards for good service. She wasn't having any part of it so I just got up and started putting on my clothes. This is when she really started going off on me giving me a lot of lip and being very rude. She more of less shoved me out the door as I was leaving, I will not be going back. At this point drove to the muffler shop rang the door bell twice no answer by the way there were no cars in the lot. Number three went back and went into Tucson, was met by an older, overweight lady said her name was Ping, I think. Anyway, she was cordial and fun but massage and ending were average or below at best. Half way through she told me to call her tomorrow and she would give me the other thirty minutes I had paid for, yea right. When that didn't work, she said you just go to sleep for thirty minutes and I'll be right back, damn what did I do to deserve all this. Anyway, sometimes you win and sometimes you lose I guess it just wasn't my day. You might want to seriously reconsider these establishments until some things turn around.This is the type of intel that makes this site worth the price of admission.
I recommend Jump St and BB. Good Luck.
BB.
You-SPA.
Kings.
10th ST.
Rose around 15th and Post.
Been out of the game for awhile. Looking to maybe find something nearer to home base. Can anyone share information on the greenfield / rushville area. I know finding an AMP may be out of the question but maybe someone knows of an independent in the area? Please PM if you prefer.
Thanks.
I was out East yesterday & tried Luna. Not Good. She was just cold. Now I read the forum & think maybe I should have tried BB. There are so many options on the East side. I drove by U & Jump St but didn't have time to stop. I'm just interested in opinions from the East.
BB?
21 Jump Street?
U-Spa?
N-Spa?
Kings?
Franklin?
10th St?
Other?I like the code name MIG Alley for this area of town. So many Chinese operating here. Add:
Hertz on Shadeland.
13th & Arlington.
Luna.
Subtract Jump Street (it's been closed since fall).
Funny MIG Alley. Note. Jump Street is OPEN though. I saw it with me own eyes.
I'm going to try BB next, but the girl described sort of scares me with her probing fingers.
I like the code name MIG Alley for this area of town. So many Chinese operating here. Add:
Hertz on Shadeland.
13th & Arlington.
Luna.
Subtract Jump Street (it's been closed since fall).
RonBurgIndy
01-31-19, 08:14
Just tell her to stay out of your burger hole and you'll be fine.
RBI.
Funny MIG Alley. Note. Jump Street is OPEN though. I saw it with me own eyes.
I'm going to try BB next, but the girl described sort of scares me with her probing fingers.
IndyGolfer60
01-31-19, 19:13
Just tell her to stay out of your burger hole and you'll be fine.
RBI.Went to BB this afternoon and linda was busy so got Mary, from the description was same massage and boy did I orgasm enough I got an oh wow from Mary. Met Linda on way out because she wanted to fill out card which I did and got a hug from both. Going back for sure, that might be a great duo.
Went to BB this afternoon and linda was busy so got Mary, from the description was same massage and boy did I orgasm enough I got an oh wow from Mary. Met Linda on way out because she wanted to fill out card which I did and got a hug from both. Going back for sure, that might be a great duo.I did the BB thing on Tuesdaay based on Ron's glowing review. Did get Linda as well. His review is spot on there wasn't any yelling, but it was one helluva massage on top of the ass play and finish. I was able to free the pups too.
RonBurgIndy
02-01-19, 08:10
What does Mary look like?
Went to BB this afternoon and linda was busy so got Mary, from the description was same massage and boy did I orgasm enough I got an oh wow from Mary. Met Linda on way out because she wanted to fill out card which I did and got a hug from both. Going back for sure, that might be a great duo.
RonBurgIndy
02-01-19, 08:11
Anything extra to release the hounds?
I did the BB thing on Tuesdaay based on Ron's glowing review. Did get Linda as well. His review is spot on there wasn't any yelling, but it was one helluva massage on top of the ass play and finish. I was able to free the pups too.
IndyGolfer60
02-01-19, 11:32
What does Mary look like?Same size and looks as Linda but her hair is up on top and she wears makeup.
AmpyepuKnowMe
02-01-19, 11:45
This is my first time making a post, but have enjoyed watching and learning from everyone so I just wanted to start by thanking everyone for their contributions and help with my mongering activities. I am currently on the sidelines but my various experiences with AMPs has been a big experiment. In general, I quit going because I wasn't happy with the cleanliness of many of these places. My search for a clean FS AMP just hasn't been too successful. Maybe I'll go back, but for now I'm not asking anyone for help or advice. I'm just going to enjoy the hunt and hopefully find that diamond in the rough under the radar provider I know I can trust. I've been down south. Phoenix is where I would go and to Muffler. Didn't care for Tuscon. Problem is providers come and go and the menu changes up accordingly. Been out east, but east feels like Hotel California for some crazy reason. You can check in any time you like but you can never leave. Didn't know Jump Street repened. Thanks for that info. It was a blast before they closed. Been to Luna and spa on Franklin last summer. It was "meh" at best in my opinion. I stay away from north side. Flower shop on Post was ok but nothing to write home about. I will also offer that I don't get as turned off about tipping like some others do because I'm sure they have been taken advantage of as well and you need to establish trust with them too. Good luck to all and be safe.
Went to phoenix this morning, no tracks in the snow so looks like I'm first today. Girl was not lisa but knew me. I think from somewhere else. Nice bod just a bit of plump and nice rack. Excellent FS standard rate and tip.
Anything extra to release the hounds?Nope standard hour plus tip.
Cravin1969
02-01-19, 16:57
Stopped in early afternoon on Tuesday. There were 2 girls there but only saw the one that give me a massage. Small girl small tits but good english. Great massage lots of teasing while face down. On the flip I tried to get here to receive some day but she said no. Asked to fuck and she said no. I ask to fiv and she said no all the while stroking me. I pulled the back of her pants down and started playing with her little ass and she didn't mind so I started play with her asshole and she didn't mind that either so I spit on my finger and proceeded to finger fuck her ass 2 knuckles deep. I faster I fucked that ass the faster she stroked me until I exploded. She talked dirty the whole time trying to get me to cum. I would repeat I'm in the area.
This is my first time making a post, but have enjoyed watching and learning from everyone so I just wanted to start by thanking everyone for their contributions and help with my mongering activities. I am currently on the sidelines but my various experiences with AMPs has been a big experiment. In general, I quit going because I wasn't happy with the cleanliness of many of these places. My search for a clean FS AMP just hasn't been too successful. Maybe I'll go back, but for now I'm not asking anyone for help or advice. I'm just going to enjoy the hunt and hopefully find that diamond in the rough under the radar provider I know I can trust. I've been down south. Phoenix is where I would go and to Muffler. Didn't care for Tuscon. Problem is providers come and go and the menu changes up accordingly. Been out east, but east feels like Hotel California for some crazy reason. You can check in any time you like but you can never leave. Didn't know Jump Street repened. Thanks for that info. It was a blast before they closed. Been to Luna and spa on Franklin last summer. It was "meh" at best in my opinion. I stay away from north side. Flower shop on Post was ok but nothing to write home about. I will also offer that I don't get as turned off about tipping like some others do because I'm sure they have been taken advantage of as well and you need to establish trust with them too. Good luck to all and be safe.If your looking for a clean, full service place, I would suggest a change of your policy regarding north side locations. I can think of at least 4 that offer what you are looking for, and a couple are almost ocd wrt cleanliness.
Hey all,
New to this thread. Not new to the hobby. Younger guy but been to most places listed out east. Going to try and check out sunny, but a little discouraged by the reviews. So I may go with a safe spot. Tough to branch out.
Any suggestions near north east / east side? I really like discrete parking / locations. Office buildings or low key spots. I'm pretty regular at 13th & A, the beach, scrubs, Arby's on Franklin (not a fan cause it stinks.) & years ago there was a place on 56th and fall creek near speedway gas I really liked. It was always SS but enjoyed it a lot. Would love to hear feedback and suggestions.
May checkout dahlia, but mixed reviews. I'm even a big fan of home incalls. Let me know. Thanks.
Cravin1969
02-02-19, 08:27
No one under the age of 50 at this place. There ad states 23 years old. Massage was okay with diy at the end. I don't do diy. Left a 10 for the tip.
Cravin1969
02-02-19, 10:24
Drew Lisa this time. Very pretty and really hot. I was hard before I laid down on the table. She was so excited that I was so excited that she rolled me on my back and went to work while I kissed her neck and ear lobe and talked dirty to me while I rubbed on her pussy. I exploded in no time not 10 minutes into the hour. I spent the rest of the hour on my back and she massaged me head to toe. I even fell asleep I was so relaxed. I will repeat. Happy hunting Mongers.
Mary greeted me at the door but called for Linda to do the massage. I really can't add anything to previous reviews, everything was exactly as reported. Excellent experience. I'm glad I was there waiting when they opened, five more mongers showed up during my hour.
WildPlayer
02-02-19, 14:56
Mary greeted me at the door but called for Linda to do the massage. I really can't add anything to previous reviews, everything was exactly as reported. Excellent experience. I'm glad I was there waiting when they opened, five more mongers showed up during my hour.I was visiting Indy and wanted to try this place out after reading the recent reviews. I was there probably 8 min after they opened. But you were already in there so she told me to come back in 50 min. I had to get somewhere and didn't have extra 50 minutes and couldn't wait. Ended up searching for massage places nearby. Went to and foot spa which is close to BB. Very good massage but didn't even flip me and no extras of HE. This morning was disappointing for me.
I was visiting Indy and wanted to try this place out after reading the recent reviews. I was there probably 8 min after they opened. But you were already in there so she told me to come back in 50 min. I had to get somewhere and didn't have extra 50 minutes and couldn't wait. Ended up searching for massage places nearby. Went to and foot spa which is close to BB. Very good massage but didn't even flip me and no extras of HE. This morning was disappointing for me.They actually opened about 9:20 so both gals were busy even before their advertised opening time. It's very common for these places to open late. I usually have to call to wake them up if I show up first thing. This place surprised me.
This surely doesn't sound like the normal situation there.
I email with Sunny all the time. I'll check into this and see what the circumstances were. I'm not doubting the report, but it certainly seems out of character for both Sunny or Kaylie. I'll report back.
Heritage1.
Several weeks ago I was traveling through Indy and decided to try her place. I was greeted by the mamasan and led to a room but as I was getting ready to lie down for an hour massage a younger woman literally barged in the room and demanded payment. I gave her the $60.00 but she demanded an extra 40 for the tip. I told her I wasn't going to tip for services not yet rendered and she replied; "That's not how we do things here". Of course I told her to just give me my money back, which she was reluctantly did. Ranks as one of the worst experiences I've had. Hope YMV's.
I'm a north spider and would love to know what 4 you are referring to.
If your looking for a clean, full service place, I would suggest a change of your policy regarding north side locations. I can think of at least 4 that offer what you are looking for, and a couple are almost ocd wrt cleanliness.
GreatWhite123
02-02-19, 20:24
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/813-501-2871-come-over-and-enjoy-yourself__1549132359-16495494
Has anyone seen her or have a report?
I'm a north spider and would love to know what 4 you are referring to.Sunrise, Dandy, Ruby and TTM are the ones I was thinking of when I wrote that. My ocd comment was specifically referencing dandy and sunrise. The other two are very clean too, tho. This is not to say you won't smell cooking food when you walk in, because in all cases they are there all day, and prepare their own meals.
You can be assured of a clean environment at all four with fresh sheets and clean towels for each customer. The level of service you receive at each will depend on what THEY think of YOU. Menu isn't the same for all customers.
Thanks. Been to dandy and ruby with good, but not full service. Tried to do sunrise about a year and half ago but 3/10 and weird vibe so I just left and have not tried again. Don't know ttm though.
Sunrise, Dandy, Ruby and TTM are the ones I was thinking of when I wrote that. My ocd comment was specifically referencing dandy and sunrise. The other two are very clean too, tho. This is not to say you won't smell cooking food when you walk in, because in all cases they are there all day, and prepare their own meals.
You can be assured of a clean environment at all four with fresh sheets and clean towels for each customer. The level of service you receive at each will depend on what THEY think of YOU. Menu isn't the same for all customers.
Same size and looks as Linda but her hair is up on top and she wears makeup.I went in to BB yesterday based on all the reviews and asked for Linda. Lady that greeted me pointed to a room and said busy. I asked for Mary and she said my name is Mary. This lady had to 55 to 60 but like one monger said her hair was up. Is this the same Mary reviewed or are so many people coming in and asking for Linda and Mary that they are catching on?
Been by the Muffler shop south and the Pizza Hut west a couple times in the past week and both seem to be closed. ?
Zen Adventurer
02-03-19, 10:30
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/813-501-2871-come-over-and-enjoy-yourself__1549132359-16495494
Has anyone seen her or have a report?My guess, you'll start texting and next thing you know, you'll get a request to authenticate through some site asking for a credit card. Just a hunch, but would be interested in knowing what transpires.
Sunny does acknowledge that this took place, but assured me that she had spoken with the gal and gotten things corrected. Most appt there are scheduled, and this was a walk in. And that seemed to be the main cause of the misunderstanding. She would make it up to Lipservice should he return.
I think most of us would agree that Sunny is very good at her craft, and repeat visits make a huge difference. I have always enjoyed my visits there, and Sunny promised me this was out of the ordinary, and no cause for concern. I haven't been for a while, I should definitely head back!
Heritage1 p.
Several weeks ago I was traveling through Indy and decided to try her place. I was greeted by the mamasan and led to a room but as I was getting ready to lie down for an hour massage a younger woman literally barged in the room and demanded payment. I gave her the $60.00 but she demanded an extra 40 for the tip. I told her I wasn't going to tip for services not yet rendered and she replied; "That's not how we do things here". Of course I told her to just give me my mcgoney back, which she was reluctantly did. Ranks as one of the worst experiences I've had. Hope YMV's.
Power Tool
02-03-19, 11:35
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/813-501-2871-come-over-and-enjoy-yourself__1549132359-16495494
Has anyone seen her or have a report?It says right on the ad that her name is Latoya "Search her Webcam". Hint this means she offers webcam services nothing more. Plus most out of state phone numbers are scams or webcams. Do your research, google the number.
Drew Lisa this time. Very pretty and really hot. I was hard before I laid down on the table. She was so excited that I was so excited that she rolled me on my back and went to work while I kissed her neck and ear lobe and talked dirty to me while I rubbed on her pussy. I exploded in no time not 10 minutes into the hour. I spent the rest of the hour on my back and she massaged me head to toe. I even fell asleep I was so relaxed. I will repeat. Happy hunting Mongers.Or white girl provider?
No one under the age of 50 at this place. There ad states 23 years old. Massage was okay with diy at the end. I don't do diy. Left a 10 for the tip.There is a foot spa in Greenwood that does more.
Hadn't seen anything lately about rose on the east side. Stopped in to give it try. 40 something gal met me at door. Two gals working, only saw one but she was attractive enough 5/10. Decent massage, good technique on the flip and followed instructions well. Utc roaming up top and otc below. Normal door fee and tip applied.I am a frequent visitor and a new girl is coming.
Cravin1969
02-03-19, 17:06
Stopped in today. Lisa was the only girl there. Kind of cute 6/10 on looks. Very friendly and good english. She's been in the US for over 3 years. Massage was okay but the massage table was hard as a rock. It was very clean as stated earlier. YMMV. I had a good time with Lisa. She me told the Boss is the only other girl that works there so I have no idea what she looks likes. Happy hunting.
Been by the Muffler shop south and the Pizza Hut west a couple times in the past week and both seem to be closed. ?There are a lot of Chinese providers going places to celebrate the Chinese New Year. My recently departed favorite said that many are gathering in LA. If this is why they're closed, they should reopen soon after the 15th at the latest.
On a side note, the latest arrival at "Q" already quit. It may be a one-woman operation now. She's already talked about working alone before the last one came.
Stopped in today. Lisa was the only girl there. Kind of cute 6/10 on looks. Very friendly and good english. She's been in the US for over 3 years. Massage was okay but the massage table was hard as a rock. It was very clean as stated earlier. YMMV. I had a good time with Lisa. She me told the Boss is the only other girl that works there so I have no idea what she looks likes. Happy hunting.Lisa? So, Cindy has a partner now? How long has this Lisa been there? Any details? Is she tiny, like Cindy? How much fun did you have? Cindy started flaking, so I've stopped being a regular.
Cravin1969
02-04-19, 18:42
Lisa? So, Cindy has a partner now? How long has this Lisa been there? Any details? Is she tiny, like Cindy? How much fun did you have? Cindy started flaking, so I've stopped being a regular.Told me 2 months. She's on the small side. Kind of homely IMHO.
Told me 2 months. She's on the small side. Kind of homely IMHO.Must really be a new girl. Cindy isn't on the small side. She's unequivocally tiny, and I can't imagine anyone describing her as anything less than cute. My guess would be Cindy has taken leave to visit family in China.
Hey all, I'm from around the Muncie area where there's pretty much nothing. I've never gone to a massage parlor before but I've always wanted to and in my searching I've been pointed to the Indy area for any sort of HEs or FS type of deals. Can anybody give any sort of recommendations for anything out there? I've tried reading up in this thread but since I'm not from Indy I really don't know where any of these places are.
Not sure who is in the picture, but you can tell it isn't her. Not even close in regards to looks. Great legit massage with some upsell. Didn't think it was worth paying for more, but if you're looking for a great outcall massage, she could fit the bill. Not sure I would repeat though.
https://indianapolis.rubratings.com/130634Ty for sharing! When you say not even close to reg. Looks is she still good looking and have similar red head long hair or completely different body type?
Motoben560
02-05-19, 14:56
She was an independent that worked out of her home on the east side. I lost contact with her and haven't seen her in probably, sheesh, 6 years or more. Anyone know if she's still around?
MyFriend31
02-05-19, 16:17
Visited an old go to place this week. It's the one on Madison just north of stop 10. I always got a very good massage and left with a smile on my face when I visited this AMP. On this day I pulled a new girl one I had never had before. She was probably late 30's to earl 40's. Kind of hard to tell it was fairly dark. I took the hour, this place has a shower but no table shower so I passed. Got ready and she came in, the massage was not the best I have had here but pretty close. She said she has only been here a few days. On the flip there was some light rubbing just to get things going. Then she proceeded to give one of the best endings I have had. There was plenty of grazing to be had which is always a plus. This one may have more on her menu time will tell. I will definitely be going back to sample the rest of her menu.
Went and saw Sunny yesterday. Massages was decent, I've def had better at multiple spots out east. 13 & A, the Beach, and APlus to name a few. I do like the location however.
I question is. How is she so fluent and clear with English in her emails but not in person? I feel like she didn't know anything I was asking. But emails were properly punctuation and she used some slang? Just a bit odd to me for sure. Anyone else notice that?
Overall. I'd probably go back. Nothing crazy tho.
Oh! Another, younger lady barged in during the flip which was super weird. Really threw off any progress made LOL. So odd.
Bester1972
02-05-19, 22:14
The answer to your question is no. I have no idea who's picture she's using, but it's definitely not her.
Ty for sharing! When you say not even close to reg. Looks is she still good looking and have similar red head long hair or completely different body type?.
RonBurgIndy
02-05-19, 23:19
I'm going to call this legit massage place "Kevin Bacon. ".
Myth confirmed! Chi Chi (sp?) gave an awesome stone massage with real knot-digging skills, gave me some good light teasing (close but not on the boys) when on my belly, then after a flip massage we traded self / her hands and she was rubbing up and down my thighs to a spectacular finish. She seemed super happy to get a. 2 tip (I tipped. 2 since we traded duty). My advice is if you go to this one, keep your expectations low, as my first massage there was an absolute no-go with a new girl who looked about 50-60 yo. Second time seems like it may be a YMMV situation since it's a legit massage place first and foremost.
All in all, a fantastic massage and a fun finish from a sweet lady. Thanks for the tip MJMJ!
RBI.
Place that hasn't been reported on here was at yesterday. Nice place that does hot stones and very under the rader. Was getting massage and started getting a he out of the blue. Funny thing was all kind of woman and me in and out. Love when you just go for the massage and surprise.
I'm going to call this legit massage place "Kevin Bacon. ".
Myth confirmed! Chi Chi (sp?) gave an awesome stone massage with real knot-digging skills, gave me some good light teasing (close but not on the boys) when on my belly, then after a flip massage we traded self / her hands and she was rubbing up and down my thighs to a spectacular finish. She seemed super happy to get a. 2 tip (I tipped. 2 since we traded duty). My advice is if you go to this one, keep your expectations low, as my first massage there was an absolute no-go with a new girl who looked about 50-60 yo. Second time seems like it may be a YMMV situation since it's a legit massage place first and foremost.
All in all, a fantastic massage and a fun finish from a sweet lady. Thanks for the tip MJMJ!
RBI.I'm assuming near county line road from the title of the original post. At least when we were all code happy you could discern the location, but with nearly no reference, it's a little difficult.
RonBurgIndy
02-06-19, 09:21
Think of his most popular movies, and you'll get it easily. I'm traditionally anti-code, but this place doesn't need high visibility as the MMS may not know, and I really don't want to ruin what I think is the beginning of a beautiful UTR thing.
RBI.
I'm assuming near county line road from the title of the original post. At least when we were all code happy you could discern the location, but with nearly no reference, it's a little difficult.
Haven't been down south for awhile so thought I would try it again Took hhr and massuse was a 7/10 with a very good massage with some teasing On the flip UTC was allowed on top and OTC was allowed below the waist and enjoyable HE I think more is on the menu and will return.
Went and saw Sunny yesterday. Massages was decent, I've def had better at multiple spots out east. 13 & A, the Beach, and APlus to name a few. I do like the location however.
I question is. How is she so fluent and clear with English in her emails but not in person? I feel like she didn't know anything I was asking. But emails were properly punctuation and she used some slang? Just a bit odd to me for sure. Anyone else notice that?
Overall. I'd probably go back. Nothing crazy tho.
Oh! Another, younger lady barged in during the flip which was super weird. Really threw off any progress made LOL. So odd.Possibly using one. I text with a cpl providers that use them they seem to work well.
DeadHeadChevy
02-06-19, 12:42
Was passing through Indy and had to scratch an itch. Was really looking for just a decent massage but felt that I may want to sample the extra value menu if it was available.
I had to use a Lyft, so my option were limited on distance so I wasn't paying all my play money on my ride. Wound up going to this no-name massage spa on Rockville road on the corner of Lynhurst. I did a little research and saw that this place was busted for offering extra menu items some time ago, so it was a crap shoot to see if these menu items were still being served. The ad on Rubratings hinted to the extra menu, but then again, nothing definitely saying so.
Got there and the place was not open, wanted to get there early so my happy meal would be "fresh" so to say. No one likes a stale happy meal.
Called the number, no answer. Knocked on both doors, again, no answer.
Decided to wait a bit, it was already about an hour after their stated opening time, so it wasn't looking good.
A few mongers stopped by but went their way after seeing the doors locked. Sorry if I scared some of you away, my winter jacket probably made me look like LEO waiting outside, LOL.
Eventually, a car pulls up with a middle-aged Chinese woman and an older white dude, it is the owner "Luna" and her "boyfriend".
She opens up and I'm the first monger there, since the others drive off.
She isn't bad looking for her age, but couldn't get a good look at her body since she was still wearing pants and a sweater of some sort.
She shows me to a room, I ask for 1 hour and get undressed and lay down on the table. No table shower that I know off, but was a little chilly for one anyway.
Luna comes in and starts with the massage, which was not bad. Not the best I had but definitely no where near the worst. I notice that she has changed her clothes to a little short skirt and a loose top, this is looking better.
I turn on the charm by speaking a little Mandarin Chinese to her, she liked and also helped me to properly pronounce my words.
She asked where I learned Chinese and started some more small talk.
She talked about her boyfriend, who drove her in, who was also in the back room. I heard him talking to Luna about an appointment for later, asking if she wanted a "black man" for the appointment.
Anyway, small talk and massage went well but I did not get a vibe of anything else offered, especially after she mentioned the "boyfriend" and the fact that he was in the other room. No teasing no signs of anything. Until the flip.
On the flip, pillow under my head, towel barely covering jr, she stands right up to my left, I gracefully place my arm around her waist and she starts massaging my chest, but really just kind of poking at it.
She slowly starts migrating down towards my business and asks if okay to touch, of course I say yes. She starts rubbing and junior responds and I start rubbing her ass and she asks if I want more. I say "I'll take what ever I can get", she says you want blow-job? Of course I do, me thinking this is maybe all that is offered with boyfriend nearby.
She leaves and comes back with her supplies and starts to rub junior again and places cover in her mouth and starts a really nice CBJ. Good suction and technique with her hands rubbing my balls and slowly stroking the shaft.
I start really rubbing and squeezing her ass and rub her shaved kitty eventually moving her panties aside to rub her clit as she started getting very moist. She doesn't turn away or block me but asks if I want to boom-boom. Of course I do.
She pulls her panties off and hops up on top of me and starts with the Asian squat and we switch to her laying on her back legs resting on my shoulders as I pound her box standing up. She takes out her bolt-on titties, which are a little too firm for my taste but still nice with those eraser tip nipples. For her age, she is pretty tight and firm, she has to be in her later 40's maybe early 50's but pretty nice compared to some white girls of her age range.
The whole time I am pounding her box, I kept thinking that the boyfriend was either going to burst in or he may be getting off hearing give it to his girl, not sure.
I finish up, exploding in the hat and she cleans me up with hot towel.
Total damage was 60 for the massage and 140 for everything else. Probably overpaid a little but left very happy and stress free.
IndyGolfer60
02-06-19, 13:14
Saw a new girl today at lunch named Anna, probaly mid 20'sto 30 long black hair and short jean skirt nude nylons and whit blouse probaly only an A cup. But great legs and I am a leg man. Took HHR and she starts a feather touch but soon was teasing through the legs until I couldn't take it nymore so flipped over and she put pillow under me and went to town on my member I ask about head and she shook her head no. But she let me play with her legs and ass and tits with no issues. Will repeat she was happy with standard tip.
Hoping the experts can help, DM if prefer to keep private as I will do the same. Looking for a strong therapeutic / legit massage provider or location with a strong tease game only. Not really looking for anything else. Does such a under the radar location exist? Prefer north side, NW side but could travel. Can share some other locations both here and FL as thanks.
Thanks in advance for any help.
Sorry about my last review (hopefully it's deleted by now) but my brother decided to post a fake review on sunny on my account. I was unaware until browsing today! So I apologize for that.
The real review is that Sunny was pretty great. The location was clean and discrete. I didn't feel like I was walking on a 'sketchy location'. I just went for a 30 min. It was a great massage overall. You could tell she had training and knew what she was doing. Easy to schedule via email and was even accommodating when I came late. The flip Was good enough for me!. YMMV on that. I really enjoyed it overall!
I will definitely be coming back.
Possibly using one. I text with a cpl providers that use them they seem to work well.My guess is she isn't the one responding to the emails. Over the years I've become friends with half a dozen providers, all of whom have asked me to help them write an email or text message at one time or another.
GeezerGlide
02-07-19, 11:48
Sunrise, Dandy, Ruby and TTM are the ones I was thinking of when I wrote that. My ocd comment was specifically referencing dandy and sunrise. The other two are very clean too, tho. This is not to say you won't smell cooking food when you walk in, because in all cases they are there all day, and prepare their own meals.
You can be assured of a clean environment at all four with fresh sheets and clean towels for each customer. The level of service you receive at each will depend on what THEY think of YOU. Menu isn't the same for all customers.Regular northsider. Been to Dandy, Ruby and Sunrise many times. And mileage varies with each location depending on who you draw and what they think of you. But, I don't recognize the last one. What is TTM?
Geezer.
Regular northsider. Been to Dandy, Ruby and Sunrise many times. And mileage varies with each location depending on who you draw and what they think of you. But, I don't recognize the last one. What is TTM?
Geezer.Therapeutic Thai Massage.
RonBurgIndy
02-07-19, 14:22
Is it actually Thai workers, or only "Thai style" massage? I have yet to have either, or both at the same time.
RBI.
Therapeutic Thai Massage.
Sunny, Lucy and Kaleigh all come with similar results?
Interesting trip to Oz last night I called ahead for 645 appointment but one of you got there first and told the girls that you had called but Vee Vee knows me and when I arrived telling her I was here for my 645 she put me in the side room at which time whichever one of you mongers was there I heard you being shown the Ruby Slippers and the door! My massage was top-notch with tons of teasing And a most fantastic finish cheers.
Went and saw Sunny yesterday. Massages was decent, I've def had better at multiple spots out east. 13 & A, the Beach, and APlus to name a few. I do like the location however.
I question is. How is she so fluent and clear with English in her emails but not in person? I feel like she didn't know anything I was asking. But emails were properly punctuation and she used some slang? Just a bit odd to me for sure. Anyone else notice that?
Overall. I'd probably go back. Nothing crazy tho.
Oh! Another, younger lady barged in during the flip which was super weird. Really threw off any progress made LOL. So odd.I'm just guessing that maybe her husband is actually answering the emails and that's why the English is so good? I thought that was a little odd too. Just an idea.
WinterWarlock
02-07-19, 15:52
I have been very satisfied with Sunny's Place. The quality of the atmosphere at the office is excellent, better than nearly anyplace else. Sunny is a very good masseuse. If you need a real massage, then you will feel better afterwards. Her massage skills real. If you treat her nice and be respectful (and generous), then you will be very satisfied at the end. Sunny is a very nice person, and she deserves your respect. Treat her right and you will get good treatment in return.
Her English is okay, but she must get help from someone or a translator for the emails. Whatever the situation, it does not matter, because the massage is worth the price, and the service is professional. Sunny is highly recommended!
If you have any questions, then feel free to send me a message.
I have been very satisfied with Sunny's Place. The quality of the atmosphere at the office is excellent, better than nearly anyplace else. Sunny is a very good masseuse. If you need a real massage, then you will feel better afterwards. Her massage skills real. If you treat her nice and be respectful (and generous), then you will be very satisfied at the end. Sunny is a very nice person, and she deserves your respect. Treat her right and you will get good treatment in return.
Her English is okay, but she must get help from someone or a translator for the emails. Whatever the situation, it does not matter, because the massage is worth the price, and the service is professional. Sunny is highly recommended!
If you have any questions, then feel free to send me a message.I can't agree more! I've seen her servers times and it's been amazing each time. I've been contimplating going for the 4 hands. I've thought about other places but it's so easy to email and set up an appointment And the quality keeps me going back.
Cravin1969
02-07-19, 19:37
I was in the area today with a little time to kill. Requested Lisa when I arrived but they tried to pass me off to an older really tall woman with lots of makeup and a very flat ass. I told her I wanted Lisa and was told to wait 10 minutes for her. She came in 10 minutes later and I was laying on my back waiting for her. She went for the oil and the puppies came out and she took good care of me then give a HHr massage. I will repeat. Happy hunting.
Is it actually Thai workers, or only "Thai style" massage? I have yet to have either, or both at the same time.
RBI.She's 100% Thai. Massage is a mix of Thai and Swedish styles.
Good riddance if the muffler is gone. Last I was there smelled like a tuna sandwich left in the sun. Surprised the leaves on that tree didn't wilt.
Anyway what was tuscon I fear has been gone for awhile.
Pizza hut was a strange experience, parking lot a terror- probably 5/10, thin, old, nice, oil had a smell, ok massage, standard.
Is Phoenix changing as well, lost a nice provider awhile back, not the same.
Looking for something worthy south of downtown not on east Prez.
Any advice would be welcomed, PM or otherwise, thanks.
KYTavern12
02-08-19, 09:49
Lunch time visit to E 10th Street. Older but fun provider working solo. HHR paid for, flipped after 10 and stripped her down. No cover so just HE and kitty play for me. Left $40 as tip and she was happy. If only they would invest $200 in the place and fix it up. When I left I noticed two uncles parked across the street in the school lot.
Has there been any improvements at Suite A? It used to be a regular spot before the last rotation and reports of cold fish and unhappiness.
Thanks in advance.
TheBlindman
02-08-19, 17:58
Lunch time visit to E 10th Street. Older but fun provider working solo. HHR paid for, flipped after 10 and stripped her down. No cover so just HE and kitty play for me. Left $40 as tip and she was happy. If only they would invest $200 in the place and fix it up. When I left I noticed two uncles parked across the street in the school lot.They are there a frequently?
She's 100% Thai. Massage is a mix of Thai and Swedish styles.I know her outside of the massage world. She's a gold digger who puts money first, as she relies on rich men to support her. I know for a fact that there is more to be had IF she thinks you are handsome and IF you have money. If you are fat or ugly though, it won't happen. If you are relatively good looking and drive a German car, your chances are good, but it may take a few sessions.
Has there been any improvements at Suite A? It used to be a regular spot before the last rotation and reports of cold fish and unhappiness.
Thanks in advance.I didn't notice cold fish, there was decent enthusiasm they're just not very good looking.
Cravin1969
02-09-19, 15:38
If you are referring to Luna in Castleton she has serious GPS. Wants 200 for naked he. Wanted 300 to get naked and let me eat her pussy and no full service. She's a hot little Thai girl but fuck that. I never went back. YMMV but I'm not over weight I'm tall and thin and not bad looking for being in my 50's. To pricey for me. Happy hunting.
If you are referring to Luna in Castleton she has serious GPS. Wants 200 for naked he. Wanted 300 to get naked and let me eat her pussy and no full service. She's a hot little Thai girl but fuck that. I never went back. YMMV but I'm not over weight I'm tall and thin and not bad looking for being in my 50's. To pricey for me. Happy hunting.Well, your experience is your experience, but I can tell you that it differs significantly from mine (which is where the phrase YMMV comes from of course). I've been seeing her for 8 years, and I can categorically say that she has never mentioned price a single time during our session, and she's never asked for a tip after. Just accepted what I offered. We'd just go with the flow, and I never asked nor pushed anything. We let nature take its course, so to speak. That isn't to say I don't tip generously, I do. But I'm not paying anything close to what you were asked for, and from the sound of it, getting much better service. That being said, it appears more have had your experience than mine, so maybe I'm just lucky.
Well, your experience is your experience, but I can tell you that it differs significantly from mine (which is where the phrase YMMV comes from of course). I've been seeing her for 8 years, and I can categorically say that she has never mentioned price a single time during our session, and she's never asked for a tip after. Just accepted what I offered. We'd just go with the flow, and I never asked nor pushed anything. We let nature take its course, so to speak. That isn't to say I don't tip generously, I do. But I'm not paying anything close to what you were asked for, and from the sound of it, getting much better service. That being said, it appears more have had your experience than mine, so maybe I'm just lucky.I do not see her being transactional in nature, she is looking for more of a longer term benefit. If it was a one time deal, it would be expensive. So I can see both situations.
Any one know of any incall home or apartment locations? Send me private message if so. Thanks.
Also, went to try Sunny's place again. From a genuine therapeutic standpoint. The massage was amazing.
IndyGolfer60
02-10-19, 20:30
I didn't notice cold fish, there was decent enthusiasm they're just not very good looking.Went back this evening because I was close and really needed a good massage with HE secondary. I wold say se was in her 40's pettite between a 5 or 6. I wasn't sure wit cool deamnor comming in but stayed. Boy was looks decieving the best overall massage I ever had. When she got done with my back and before the flip she went and got fresh oil and ran her hand through my butt cheeks and then under my thighs and started teasting my member. She finally said flip and went got pillow and more oil and she went to work on my memeberand I ran my hand on her clit through her leggings and right before she came she leaned downed and whispered in my ear I am going to come. It took me awhile to get off but she hung in the whole time. After she cam back with hot towell. She changed the sheets while I got dressed and left I left tip and walked out and she was waiting with a hug ad I told her tip was on the table she said thanks and come back soon. Her name was Amy.
A true YMMV. After stops at Ruby and Dandy to find them busy I ended up at Scrubs. Got Amy also. Massage was only a little above average. And by average I mean the crap they pass off today. Compared to five years ago all these AMP's are just jack shacks. On the flip she did the hand shake. She removed my hand when I did some OTC roaming. After the clean up I think she was going to finish the hour. But one of you fine gentleman (a regular) showed up and I was shown the door. Will I be going back? Hell no. With about fifty other places to go I think I will explore. Its more fun than the the service is.
Dropped in to see Sunny Friday. First time visit there. Paid. 6 for the hour. Very enjoyable massage. I played it pretty cool because of convenience and would like to make it a go to. Some teasing pre flip and then the flip and she went to work. No convo of tip. I massaged her legs and butt and some otc frontal while she worked me. Technique is decent but hoping gets better with time. . 6 tip on the way out. I must say it was really nice not doing the negotiating bs part of it.
Next up I'd like to try Kaleigh.
1) Lafayette road, I don't remember it having a name. Standard prices 40/60, took the firm massage and it was adequate to work out the kinks. Good tease and finish with standard. Didn't bother with OTC or anything, she was a bit older and worn but I wasn't there for her, and enjoyed being fully relaxed. Room was tiny.
2) Aquarius. Didn't appreciate the 50/70 entry, massage was almost entirely tease. Lots of attention and good finish. Standard tip and smile on my way out. Used no oil. She was mildly cute and younger.
3) Tulip - 40/60 rates, massage was good. Absolutely no signs of extras even when giving the pretty much universal signals of not being LEO. One of the first times I've struck out in a long long time. I'm sure YMMV.
IndyGolfer60
02-12-19, 06:41
1) Lafayette road, I don't remember it having a name. Standard prices 40/60, took the firm massage and it was adequate to work out the kinks. Good tease and finish with standard. Didn't bother with OTC or anything, she was a bit older and worn but I wasn't there for her, and enjoyed being fully relaxed. Room was tiny.
2) Aquarius. Didn't appreciate the 50/70 entry, massage was almost entirely tease. Lots of attention and good finish. Standard tip and smile on my way out. Used no oil. She was mildly cute and younger.
3) Tulip - 40/60 rates, massage was good. Absolutely no signs of extras even when giving the pretty much universal signals of not being LEO. One of the first times I've struck out in a long long time. I'm sure YMMV.I think Tulip isn't a YMMV I haven't heard anyone haveing sucess there yet bit been several years since I was in there.
SharkyFuns99
02-12-19, 17:14
Just north of CLine on 135. I had a 1 hr massage today. I decided to check this place out since it was close. Standard hour pricing. The girl was very cute. Looks clean, no table shower that I could see, and the massage was fair. There doesn't seem to be anything extra there. I may try one more time, just to see if it was because I'm a new face, otherwise, I'll keep looking.
Dropped in to see Sunny Friday. First time visit there. Paid. 6 for the hour. Very enjoyable massage. I played it pretty cool because of convenience and would like to make it a go to. Some teasing pre flip and then the flip and she went to work. No convo of tip. I massaged her legs and butt and some otc frontal while she worked me. Technique is decent but hoping gets better with time. . 6 tip on the way out. I must say it was really nice not doing the negotiating bs part of it.
Next up I'd like to try Kaleigh.I haven't seen Sunny advertise Kaleigh in a few weeks. Now with an Asian lady named Lucy. Curious if the four hands is good or not.
RonBurgIndy
02-12-19, 23:02
Is the one you want. YMMV quite a bit, and with me there's not even a spoken word about it, just a great massage, light teasing, and HJ finish. From what I've read on past reports, she's VERY cautious. Then again, this place is along my regular commute and I've seen Fiona for years now.
RBI.
Just north of CLine on 135. I had a 1 hr massage today. I decided to check this place out since it was close. Standard hour pricing. The girl was very cute. Looks clean, no table shower that I could see, and the massage was fair. There doesn't seem to be anything extra there. I may try one more time, just to see if it was because I'm a new face, otherwise, I'll keep looking.
Watch it with this one, she's not quite downtown; but off southeastern ave. She is a good looking lady; but she's way fat; she's was serious at first; place is clean but once on business and started talking I could tell she was high AF, she did some weird rubbing of lotion, some mutual touch but at that point just disappointed because nothing nice was going to come out; sucked her natural DD play a little with the kitty and off I went. Not even 30 min and the damage was 160 - so not worth it. She admitted being high and that she was hooked on pills. Will not repeat. Stay safe fellas.
https://indianapolis.rubratings.com/136895
This is is straight up massage. I went for and hr. Strayed without me asking soft touch I figured man this will be nice, some tease but not a firm one, turned over and she asked if I wanted to extend to 30.
Min I said ok, figuring maybe there was something; after 20 min of just nothing and avoiding my advances I straight up ask about HE she said No, sorry; just massage. I said ok I'll through another $20 and give me the hr but deep tissue please. Has the nerve to ask if I wanted 4 hands again I said HE? Smiles and says no. Ok there you have it 2 hr damage was 1. 2 and left with mild case of Blue B.
Stay safe friends.
TheBlindman
02-14-19, 13:00
Followed the Yellow Brick Road and found Lulu to stroll with for an hour. Young slender (6-7) and seemed a little inexperienced. Mature is fine with me. WeiWei was occupied. Massage was softer than preferred and repeatedly in the same areas. Tease was long and not very sensual. Standard the rest of the way. I will look down a few other roads for a more experienced strolling partner.
RonBurgIndy
02-14-19, 16:33
How many visits did it take to get that menu?
If you are referring to Luna in Castleton she has serious GPS. Wants 200 for naked he. Wanted 300 to get naked and let me eat her pussy and no full service. She's a hot little Thai girl but fuck that. I never went back. YMMV but I'm not over weight I'm tall and thin and not bad looking for being in my 50's. To pricey for me. Happy hunting.
RonBurgIndy
02-14-19, 16:36
First appointment today, .8 for an hour of skilled massage and stretching in a safe clean and peaceful apartment studio. We both had good conversation and all, but no mention or hint of the hidden Starbucks menu. I'll repeat just for the massage, and report back on what if anything I am presented with on a menu option.
AchyBreaky
02-14-19, 18:48
Took a trip out east and stopped by King's, you and BB (Linda busy), and ended up at east 10th. Lucy (I think) was 6/10 in her late 40's early 50's in cutoff. I asked for the full deal but was quoted 2. 0 which got a chuckle from me. I said a std he will do, which was what I got for std tip. No chance of a return visit for me.
Was supposed to be starting at "Q" Spa this week. Has anyone seen her yet? If so, what's she like?
I've had some great happy endings at Angel Spa on north side. They did have table shower a couple months back. Does anyone else go here? Any reviews or thoughts?
Beanes9021
02-15-19, 00:55
Took a trip out east and stopped by King's, you and BB (Linda busy), and ended up at east 10th. Lucy (I think) was 6/10 in her late 40's early 50's in cutoff. I asked for the full deal but was quoted 2. 0 which got a chuckle from me. I said a std he will do, which was what I got for std tip. No chance of a return visit for me.She's got a great attitude and is very playful, but there's not a bit of a chance that she's in her 40's. If I had to guess, she's pushing 60 or possibly older.
Cravin1969
02-15-19, 07:25
How many visits did it take to get that menu?First time.
Does anyone know of a good nuru massage. Used to go to right touch Cali but wanted something new. Wish some of Chicago girls would make the short drive down.
SharkyFuns99
02-15-19, 10:23
Once again: barely north of C-line. Called and asked for Fiona (as suggested). Same cute girl there as before. She seemed almost bothered by a human presence, tried chatting to silence, and she was answering the phone constantly. Massage was worse than before, and still nothing. I won't be going back. YMMV but I got nowhere.
Stay safe.
GeezerGlide
02-15-19, 10:44
I've had some great happy endings at Angel Spa on north side. They did have table shower a couple months back. Does anyone else go here? Any reviews or thoughts?I went there about 2 months ago. I used to have a pretty good time there but this time the menu was VERY closed. I'm thinking there was a shakeup and new folks are playing it safe. I'm not a regular there so that may have impacted my experience as well.
Geezer.
RonBurgIndy
02-15-19, 14:15
I was checking out the Models Massage website and apparently they have a new manager and assistant manager. If you look closely at the photo, you might just get a chuckle like I did. Also, I wish it was really her title, and that she did, indeed, manage mine.
RBI.
I haven't seen Sunny advertise Kaleigh in a few weeks. Now with an Asian lady named Lucy. Curious if the four hands is good or not.I enjoyed a 4 hand with Sunny and Lucy. It is worth it.
RonBurgIndy
02-15-19, 17:21
What does Lucy look like?
I enjoyed a 4 hand with Sunny and Lucy. It is worth it.
PrinterMike
02-15-19, 18:08
While I certainly have my favorite haunts, when I see a new place pop up I like to check it out. So when I saw an ad for coral spa I figured what the hey.
https://indianapolis.rubratings.com/138891
Maybe it's been around for years and I never knew, but either way here you go. 40/60 standard pricing. Large rooms. Standard Chinese therapist. Older, bit heavy set. More rub than massage, tease came early into my 30. Flipped, otc only below nothing above (which I always find odd). Finished me off, brought me water, put my socks and shoes on and called it a day. 40 tip and out.
So run of the mill AMP in my humble opinion.
Best, Mike.
BadBoySean
02-16-19, 00:29
Hoping the experts can help, DM if prefer to keep private as I will do the same. Looking for a strong therapeutic / legit massage provider or location with a strong tease game only. Not really looking for anything else. Does such a under the radar location exist? Prefer north side, NW side but could travel. Can share some other locations both here and FL as thanks.
Thanks in advance for any help.https://maps.google.com/maps?rlz=1C9BKJA_enUS823US823&hl=en-US&dlnr=1&um=1&ie=UTF-8&fb=1&gl=us&entry=s&sa=X&ftid=0x8814afab9a6c0001:0x333b3d43cf5e1778&gmm=CgIgAQ%3D%3D
You'll leave frustrated but plenty of teasing, slight brushes, not very strict with towel placement. Good massage too.
Bigred2006
02-16-19, 09:22
The only thing I can say for Aquarius is that 50/70 includes a table shower. Which you can't find at a lot of AMPs. I love being washed so I'll deal with the extra.
1) Lafayette road, I don't remember it having a name. Standard prices 40/60, took the firm massage and it was adequate to work out the kinks. Good tease and finish with standard. Didn't bother with OTC or anything, she was a bit older and worn but I wasn't there for her, and enjoyed being fully relaxed. Room was tiny.
2) Aquarius. Didn't appreciate the 50/70 entry, massage was almost entirely tease. Lots of attention and good finish. Standard tip and smile on my way out. Used no oil. She was mildly cute and younger.
3) Tulip - 40/60 rates, massage was good. Absolutely no signs of extras even when giving the pretty much universal signals of not being LEO. One of the first times I've struck out in a long long time. I'm sure YMMV.
What does Lucy look like?Here you go.
The closure was temporary. Both were open this morning.
WinterWarlock
02-16-19, 14:47
I have not received a massage from her, but I understand that she is gone for a while. Lucy is a middle aged Asian lady. She will be back. Kaylie is there next week for 4 hands.
What does Lucy look like?
BeanTowner78
02-17-19, 20:52
I usually have no reason to be on the south side, but was in that part of town yesterday so decided to go to and. They were busy, "come back in an hour" which I didn't have so went to Arizona. Tucson had a couple cars so went to Phoenix and was able to get right in. That should have told me something.
Massuese was very pleasant, but 5/10 on the looks and the massage was terrible, a 2/10. On the flip FS was offered, but I declined. Again, she was very nice I just wasn't feeling it. Save my money for another time.
I was checking out the Models Massage website and apparently they have a new manager and assistant manager. If you look closely at the photo, you might just get a chuckle like I did. Also, I wish it was really her title, and that she did, indeed, manage mine.
RBI.Ron, I went in there a few weeks ago during lunch,had massage from Jazmin. Not very friendly,I did see the message when I zoomed in on picture! I may try again.
RonBurgIndy
02-18-19, 12:25
Too bad she's gone for awhile? I hope she comes back, I'll have to check in with Sunny.
RBI.
Here you go.
BarryDeepwood
02-18-19, 12:44
Anyone tried this place in Carmel. I see they have table showers. Got a apt there tonight is it worth it.
Anyone tried this place in Carmel. I see they have table showers. Got a apt there tonight is it worth it.They give a very good massage but it is self-service only.
BarryDeepwood
02-18-19, 14:55
Are they hot. I know the pics they have are fake.
They give a very good massage but it is self-service only.
She's got a great attitude and is very playful, but there's not a bit of a chance that she's in her 40's. If I had to guess, she's pushing 60 or possibly older.Yep I tried her out too. As soon as I walked in I knew what was going to happen because I had seen her before. The cutoffs kept me there. Lots of utc roaming but I wasn't interested in anything else besides the usual. It's not a waste; I'd go again if the others down 10 blocks south were busy. Parking is great BTW.
Too bad she's gone for awhile? I hope she comes back, I'll have to check in with Sunny.
RBI.I agree Ron. She looks classy. I will have to see for myself I guess. Anybody else got any reports with this gal?
Does anybody have any experience with the Blonde Bombshell?
https://indianapolis.rubratings.com/137298
Are they hot. I know the pics they have are fake.I guess that's a matter of opinion. Both are short and petite. Lucy is a little cutie but Lisa is probably a 6/10, maybe 7. The good thing is you can set an appointment with whichever you want but only Lisa usually works on the weekends.
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