General Reports [Archive] - Page 7

Chester67

10-09-10, 10:35

I called a couple more girls last night and had better luck. No, they did come over and try the 'bait and switch' hoping I would bite. Instead, they hung up on me after I screened 'them. At least this time, no one's time was wasted.

Basically, my screening process is as follows:

1. No agency.

2. No money up front.

3. If you ain't the girl in the pic, you ain't coming in.

The girls that answered failed all the above criteria and I assume were with the same agency as the girls I called Thu night. At least that agency knows not to play games with me. I could care less they have my phone, address and physical description. I'm not intimidated and if anything goes down, I figure I have as much on them as they do on me, if not more.

Secondly, outcalls are a lot safer in my book. You don't get ambushed by the cops (and I have been busted before. You don't get ambushed by a pimp either in case you want to leave. I have been confronted before and didn't flinch. I left in one piece but made it clear I wouldn't repeat that mistake. You're on better footing to decline and walk away unscathed. I don't mind paying more for outcall. The potential legal fees and medical bills are far more expensive.

I'm looking for a reputable provider and will expose any girl / agency that falsely advertises and wastes my time.

We had some fake posters in Tennessee where I moved from, but nothing like Cincy. I know there are some good providers here, but there is def an issue with posers here.

Anyone wants to share some info w / me, you can send a PM if you feel more comfortable that way. I'm lookin' out for all of us fellas.

Good luck and happy hunting!

Giani

10-09-10, 11:42

Chester:

We all need to know the details of any actual bust you have experienced. Do you REALLY mean you were busted? What was the FIRST mistake you made? How would you have recognized the set up the next time? (Or do you mean you were ripped off? That is different)

It is rare that mongers have the cajones to spell out how their bust went down. It seems that you MAY have that information. Please spell it out in great detail, as it will educate us about what not to do.

Eager for any details you might provide.

Giani.

... I have been busted before. You don't get ambushed by a pimp either in case you want to leave. I have been confronted before and didn't flinch. I left in one piece but made it clear I wouldn't repeat that mistake. ....

Victoria35

10-09-10, 13:00

Chester67

10-09-10, 15:43

First of all, allow me to correct my the first couple lines of my earlier post. I meant to say the girls did not come over. Sorry for any confusion.

My bust happened 15 or so years ago in Tennessee. I showed up to the room and like the rookie I was, began speaking freely with the girl. I wanted FS and laid the money on the table. She didn't have to do or say anything. I hung myself by stating what I wanted and giving her money.

She says 'get comfortable (meaning take off your clothes) and I'll be right back' (she went into the rest room. As soon as she came out, the cops came into the room, asked me to put my clothes on. They gave me a citation for solicitation and took my picture. Lucky for me, the newspaper wasn't publishing photos of John's all that often back then and my pic was sparred. Court costs were over 1k too.

Since then, any provider I went to had to kiss me or let me kiss their bare breasts or if they're really hot, lick their 'nether-region' in order to prove to me they weren't with the law. Even if the girl was a referral from a fellow monger, I still did the test. Reason is, cops were turning the girls they'd busted and making them work undercover for a lighter sentence.

Tennessee (Nashville) has been cracking down on providers big time the last few years and I quit doing incalls. Heat was too hot and the flash backs were just too much for me.

Chester:

We all need to know the details of any actual bust you have experienced. Do you REALLY mean you were busted? What was the FIRST mistake you made? How would you have recognized the set up the next time? (Or do you mean you were ripped off? That is different)

It is rare that mongers have the cajones to spell out how their bust went down. It seems that you MAY have that information. Please spell it out in great detail, as it will educate us about what not to do.

Eager for any details you might provide.

Giani.

Giani

10-09-10, 23:24

I am sure lots of guys ARE reading your post and interested. Any idea why only four of your previous posts come up?

Got any reviews to share? Thanks.

Well man the past two weeks I don't have a clue what is happening. For the first time ever I had NO clients on a Friday night. I am a bit worried. Like I said the past two weeks biz has slowly declined its a little crazy. If the same is happening to any other girls do tell. So, guys if your reading this call me.

Golfcart

10-09-10, 23:43

* My bust happened 15 or so years ago in Tennessee. I showed up to the room and like the rookie I was, began speaking freely with the girl. I wanted FS and laid the money on the table. She didn't have to do or say anything. I hung myself by stating what I wanted and giving her money.

* the cops came into the room, asked me to put my clothes on. They gave me a citation for solicitation *

Since then, any provider I went to had to kiss me or let me kiss their bare breasts or if they're really hot, lick their 'nether-region' in order to prove to me they weren't with the law. Even if the girl was a referral from a fellow monger, I still did the test. Reason is, cops were turning the girls they'd busted and making them work undercover for a lighter sentence. *The crime is the deed for money OR the agreement to do the deed for money OR in some states the agreement to do the deed for money plus a step in furtherance of the agreement. When we find a girl on an escort site, when we call her advertised number, we're on tape or we email. When we show up at the appointed place at the appointed time acting like we're where we're supposed to be to meet (inert name from the ad) and call her by name we I'd ourselves as the guy behind the phone / email. We are made. Nothing else has to happen. Of course it does, taking the money, the clothes, but that's just to make it harder for us to fight it given our wife, our employer, etc.

Besides, the "cop check" counts as the deed unless you are shaking her hand.

Victoria35

10-10-10, 03:38

I am sure lots of guys ARE reading your post and interested. Any idea why only four of your previous posts come up?

Got any reviews to share? Thanks. I do have reviews on escorts. Com and the erotic reviews. I am not sure why only four post poped up. I did have some reviews on here but when they redid it all are gone on here now so go figure.

Giani

10-10-10, 08:01

Thanks Chester for the details of your bust. I am sure you now know all too well the errors made. You have illustrated several for us:

1) "Speaking freely" (what sex act you want and what you are willing to pay) should ONLY be conducted after a serious LE check has been done: you feel her breasts, she grabs your crotch, or you hers. LE stingers will do none of these. While it is plausible that an SW who has been black mailed into serving in a sting might permit this, but would not hold up in court (I have yet to hear cofirmation that this paranoid possibility has occurred). Mind you, once the check IS done, be very explicit about what exactly you want, and for exactly how much. It makes it much more likely that you will be satisfied.

2) "Paying up front" is always a big mistake with ANY provider. You lose control once she has the money in hand. Her attitude may dramatically change and what you thought was agreed upon suddenly becomes negotiable. It is ESPECIALLY a problem if she "has to step out" after getting your $. You will be lucky if you see her again...

The errors you describe can occur with the 0.2 SW, or the $$$ call girl. Anyone who has engaged in the hobby for any time can recite similar 'educational' experiences.

. I showed up to the room and like the rookie I was, began speaking freely with the girl. I wanted FS and laid the money on the table. She didn't have to do or say anything. I hung myself by stating what I wanted and giving her money.

She says 'get comfortable (meaning take off your clothes) and I'll be right back'.

Cops were turning the girls they'd busted and making them work undercover for a lighter sentence.

Ray 1970

10-10-10, 12:07

I do have reviews on escorts. Com and the erotic reviews. I am not sure why only four post poped up. I did have some reviews on here but when they redid it all are gone on here now so go figure.If she is your type, then you should give her a call. Here are some reports that did not show up on search for her. I have not seen her personally, but I think the reports speak for themselves.

Backpage Advertisers : #496.

Backpage Advertisers : #405.

There are probably more, as I only did a quick browse thru the old posts.

George Walker

10-10-10, 14:09

I have seen this lady more than once. She is very easy to talk with and has a nice menu to choose from. She is a BBW so if you are like me and enjoy a lot of woman Victoria is a good choice. Aparently things have been slow and she may quit, I sure hope to see her again before she does. As said if you like a BBW give her a try.

Member #4272

10-10-10, 18:31

I can absolutely relate, Victoria. I have seen it steadily get slower and slower over the past few weeks. The only explanation I can come up with is that recently there has been a major influx of new providers popping up. The competition for hobbyist's attention is fierce and to be honest with you, I'm sure they're finding it difficult to decide on who to choose with so many readily available to them. My hope is that they give those of us that are highly reviewed at least a 2nd glance over those that aren't.

Well man the past two weeks I don't have a clue what is happening. For the first time ever I had NO clients on a Friday night. I am a bit worried. Like I said the past two weeks biz has slowly declined its a little crazy. If the same is happening to any other girls do tell. So, guys if your reading this call me.

WarlockKy

10-10-10, 19:22

The crime is the deed for money OR the agreement to do the deed for money OR in some states the agreement to do the deed for money plus a step in furtherance of the agreement. When we find a girl on an escort site, when we call her advertised number, we're on tape or we email. When we show up at the appointed place at the appointed time acting like we're where we're supposed to be to meet (inert name from the ad) and call her by name we I'd ourselves as the guy behind the phone / email. We are made. Nothing else has to happen. Of course it does, taking the money, the clothes, but that's just to make it harder for us to fight it given our wife, our employer, etc.

Besides, the "cop check" counts as the deed unless you are shaking her hand.

In Utah for example if you were to touch the lady's hip less than 6 inches from the area covered by a G-string you can be popped (and the same for the lady if she allows it) for soliciting or for imposition if no cash has traded hands yet. First time I heard it when I was out there I laughed until the guy told me he got off by virtue of his lawyer using a ruler to prove that the area he was shown touching was at 7 inches.

They also have another one on the books that requires a property owner be notified in writing 24 hrs before a performance that is sexual in nature occurs on the premises. This one is used a lot when they can't get the
lady for soliciting because even if she only dances, she still has performed and its almost guaranteed no notice was given. This works for both hotels and apartment building if the lady is doing incall.

And you thought it was strange here.

Lady Lashay

10-10-10, 19:32

Well man the past two weeks I don't have a clue what is happening. For the first time ever I had NO clients on a Friday night. I am a bit worried. Like I said the past two weeks biz has slowly declined its a little crazy. If the same is happening to any other girls do tell. So, guys if your reading this call me.Yes Biz is slow and I am new to the scene

But got to love the Job

Meeting new people. Making new friends

These scamming ass girls are making it harder for the Good Providers

Maybe we should hook up and offer a 2 girl night a few times a month.

Good Luck Lady Lashay

Happtrav

10-11-10, 14:52

Over the years I have a few TOFTT.

Here are a few suggestions I would like to add:

For Incalls:

1. Make sure the girl gets naked first.

2. Never Pay upfront: A few people think this is crazy. But heck if the girl cannot get comfortable from the beginning, it is guaranteed to be a bad session.

3. Make sure to check the inside of an incall place as soon as you enter.

4. Arrive a few minutes early and make sure to get comfortable with the surroundings of the incall.

5. If the Incall is a private residence, Do not park directly in front of the location: Park at least a block away.

6. As always, if you do not feel safe, LEAVE immediately.

For Outcalls.

1. Never invite the girl to my hotel room over the phone. Either pick her up, or meet her at a gas station. Sometimes, I have also met her in the hotel lobby. If you invite an unknown girl to your hotel room, you are basically trying to catch a falling sword.

Be Safe out there.

Thanks Chester for the details of your bust. I am sure you now know all too well the errors made. You have illustrated several for us:

1) "Speaking freely" (what sex act you want and what you are willing to pay) should ONLY be conducted after a serious LE check has been done: you feel her breasts, she grabs your crotch, or you hers. LE stingers will do none of these. While it is plausible that an SW who has been black mailed into serving in a sting might permit this, but would not hold up in court (I have yet to hear cofirmation that this paranoid possibility has occurred. Mind you, once the check IS done, be very explicit about what exactly you want, and for exactly how much. It makes it much more likely that you will be satisfied.

2) "Paying up front" is always a big mistake with ANY provider. You lose control once she has the money in hand. Her attitude may dramatically change and what you thought was agreed upon suddenly becomes negotiable. It is ESPECIALLY a problem if she "has to step out" after getting your $. You will be lucky if you see her again.

The errors you describe can occur with the 0.2 SW, or the $ call girl. Anyone who has engaged in the hobby for any time can recite similar 'educational' experiences.

Audipwr

10-11-10, 22:58

Thanks for all great tips. I believe I have alot to learn as a newbies. So far, I only stick with well-known providers, but pretty soon I'd probably TOFTT.

Be Safe!

Over the years I have a few TOFTT.

Here are a few suggestions I would like to add:

For Incalls:

1. Make sure the girl gets naked first.

2. Never Pay upfront: A few people think this is crazy. But heck if the girl cannot get comfortable from the beginning, it is guaranteed to be a bad session.

3. Make sure to check the inside of an incall place as soon as you enter.

4. Arrive a few minutes early and make sure to get comfortable with the surroundings of the incall.

5. If the Incall is a private residence, Do not park directly in front of the location: Park at least a block away.

6. As always, if you do not feel safe, LEAVE immediately.

For Outcalls.

1. Never invite the girl to my hotel room over the phone. Either pick her up, or meet her at a gas station. Sometimes, I have also met her in the hotel lobby. If you invite an unknown girl to your hotel room, you are basically trying to catch a falling sword.

Be Safe out there.

WordUp

10-12-10, 12:33

I just saw on the News about a WSW that call 911 about a John that did not pay her and was with another WSW. When the police showed up they arrested all of them, they are all in the JC where their Dumbasses should be.

How stupid can people get. Damn that was Stupid!

Also note all the drug related sores on her face. Yuk!

I forgot the Notel they were busted in, but it should be in the papers today.

Speaking of Stupid did you also hear about the man trying to rob a store with a clear plastic bag over his face. Then had to take it off because he breath in it. Talk about "stupid". These people have to have mental problems.

Jry Wild1

10-12-10, 13:18

It was mentioned (with web link) by Ceenote over in the Streetwalker Reports thread.

JR.

I just saw on the News about a WSW that call 911 about a John that did not pay her and was with another WSW. When the police showed up they arrested all of them, they are all in the JC where their Dumbasses should be.

How stupid can people get. Damn that was Stupid!

Also note all the drug related sores on her face. Yuk!

I forgot the Notel they were busted in, but it should be in the papers today.

Speaking of Stupid did you also hear about the man trying to rob a store with a clear plastic bag over his face. Then had to take it off because he breath in it. Talk about "stupid". These people have to have mental problems.

Nkykinkyguy

10-14-10, 09:10

Nkykinkyguy

10-14-10, 09:49

I never knew how much fun it was to click the add to ignore list. Awesome feeling. Fellow Seniors try it you just might like it LOL!

KG

Ray 1970

10-14-10, 15:26

When I first joined it took me a while to get used to some of the personalities on here, but even as I did I benefited from a wealth information from people helping each other out. Guys like Nkykinkyguy (and too many others to mention) have always reached out a hand to new members who try to fit in.

Sure, a couple of the guys tend to let their temper flare every now and then. But after a day or two you will always see an apology where it is appropriate. If you stick around long enough you'll start to see where each guy is coming from & realize how much they have been contributing month in and month out.

If you are new here consider my advice. You don't need see providers constantly to contribute to this board. Post information when it helps others. Help people out when they ask things you know. And if there is something that you're not sure about posting send a pm.

I am not saying I am an expert. I have just been around a little longer than some, and have found this board (and it's member) very helpful.

So. Thanks to all those who have come before me. And I wish all those who have come after me an experience similar to mine.

Heyrupert14

10-14-10, 20:36

Jimbusmc

10-15-10, 08:29

I have posted very little on here but have been reading it for awhile and it is great for information. I understand why the senior members are getting frustrated. I have done research on a girl and sometimes it takes time and a lot of reading, other times it is easy.

I have learned alot and which you guys the best.

Memphis Eol

10-15-10, 14:27

I have been on here for the last 5 months or so. I was careful when I post and mainly for information I could provide rather than posting to post. Thus I am slow to collect my posting volume to eventually become a senior member.

On behalf of those who do appreciate the quality information provided by the seniors I do apology for the recent and blatantly ignorant newbies who have invaded this quality site. It is unfortunate that NG and WM along with others have been frustrated to the point of not participating in what is meant to be a forum to encourage discussion and information.

To the recent idiotic newbies thanks for your stupidity! It is unfortunate that you do not rtff. If you did you would learn quite a bit and not sound so fucking stupid.

Be Safe Everyone.

HRI have to agree, I do not have many postings as I do not see many providers but I am rely on this forum to do my research. I will be relocating to this area in the next few months hopefully I have collected enough Senior Member info to get me by. Good Luck to those that are leaving maybe some day you will return if us newbies start using this forum as intended.

Be Safe,

ME

Jry Wild1

10-15-10, 16:41

For the "absent" Seniors, I will say "Thank you" for these posts.

"One day I shall come back. Yes, I shall come back. Until then, there must be no regrets, no tears, no anxieties. Just go forward in all your beliefs, and prove to me that I am not mistaken in mine."

It is respectful members like you that prove that the Seniors (and myself as a "not-quite-senior") are not mistaken in our beliefs.

With all due respect to Sincy Assman, Nkykinkyguy, Wingman Todd and others (who are all among my friends here), I am going to hang around for a while longer and see what happens. I will answer sincere and serious questions from "Newbie" Regular Members, "Senior" Regular Members, and Senior Members alike. I will help who I can. Please bear in mind the guidelines for respect that I have outlined in my post in the BackPage Advertiser Reviews thread, before you PM me or I still might ignore you.

Be safe, Be well,

JR

I have posted very little on here but have been reading it for awhile and it is great for information. I understand why the senior members are getting frustrated. I have done research on a girl and sometimes it takes time and a lot of reading, other times it is easy.

I have learned alot and which you guys the best.
I have been on here for the last 5 months or so. I was careful when I post and mainly for information I could provide rather than posting to post. Thus I am slow to collect my posting volume to eventually become a senior member.

On behalf of those who do appreciate the quality information provided by the seniors I do apology for the recent and blatantly ignorant newbies who have invaded this quality site. It is unfortunate that NG and WM along with others have been frustrated to the point of not participating in what is meant to be a forum to encourage discussion and information.

To the recent idiotic newbies thanks for your stupidity! It is unfortunate that you do not rtff. If you did you would learn quite a bit and not sound so fucking stupid.

Be Safe Everyone.

HR
When I first joined it took me a while to get used to some of the personalities on here, but even as I did I benefited from a wealth information from people helping each other out. Guys like Nkykinkyguy (and too many others to mention) have always reached out a hand to new members who try to fit in.

Sure, a couple of the guys tend to let their temper flare every now and then. But after a day or two you will always see an apology where it is appropriate. If you stick around long enough you'll start to see where each guy is coming from & realize how much they have been contributing month in and month out.

If you are new here consider my advice. You don't need see providers constantly to contribute to this board. Post information when it helps others. Help people out when they ask things you know. And if there is something that you're not sure about posting send a pm.

I am not saying I am an expert. I have just been around a little longer than some, and have found this board (and it's member) very helpful.

So. Thanks to all those who have come before me. And I wish all those who have come after me an experience similar to mine.

Wingman Todd

10-16-10, 18:08

I quite not sure where I am going with this, so bear with me! Over the past week there have been many nubies from here that don't post much and instead "lurk" in the backround, but who have thanked some of us, NKY, me and others for our posts and intel. There are are others who are just idiots and will remain as such!

I loved Lady Lashy's post and that is from a respected provider:

"Regardless of any needs we fill. We are still human with feelings

We have families Just like you

And you do not have the right to treat people like shit.

When you see a provider and it is doubtful you will

Treat her as you want to be treated.

Yes some move on but many return for a Great Provider

Kisses (my ass) Lady"

That was the point I was, as well as others, were trying to convey. Now I know some of the "nubies" here are only nubies to the board, but not to the hobby. You guys will do fine and will gather others trust and respect including providers. I didn't realize there were so many decent fellows were out there! And I do appreciate your words of encourage meant for my friend, Nkykinky! The imature, crass and otherwise disrespective dipshits will only find trying to find a session from b / p scammer or stroking themselves as they have basically blocked themselves from true quality ladies from this site. I also appreciate the great comments from my friend Jry Wild1 who is still a regular member, but has given to this board a wealth of infomation, great posts and awesome reviews. Still can't believe he is remains a regular member! Hell, he has steered me to several great gals as I have him! That is what this board is about. Sharing of good intel to benifit all of us. Hobbyists and providers.

We have lost SincyAssman, Nkykinky stepped to the sidelines, Whodeyman is fed up and only posts a bit. Valuable intel from Seniors who had a finger on the button for great info. I had stepped aside for three months over the summer due to this crap and considering again.

I have helped numerous fellows here and enjoy your PM's (Anexec, Shavani. Bucks et all and have helped you to reach the "promished land! ") I will continue this with respectful members.

To those of you "nubies" who have recentlly weighed in on the possitive (too many to list. You know who you are as well as me, thanks for the support. Okay, I'm now rambling, talking too much and will most likely be called out fot this! LOL!

WM.

Probably had some mispelled words that Professor JR will get after me on! To lazy to spell check!

To all have a great weekend, enjoy and always be safe!

Rogoh

10-16-10, 18:21

Well stated WM (I didn't check your spelling either).

Roger.

I quite not sure where I am going with this, so bear with me! Over the past week there have been many nubies from here that don't post much and instead "lurk" in the backround, but who have thanked some of us, NKY, me and others for our posts and intel. There are are others who are just idiots and will remain as such!

I loved Lady Lashy's post and that is from a respected provider:

"Regardless of any needs we fill. We are still human with feelings

We have families Just like you

And you do not have the right to treat people like shit.

When you see a provider and it is doubtful you will

Treat her as you want to be treated.

Yes some move on but many return for a Great Provider

Kisses (my ass) Lady"

That was the point I was, as well as others, were trying to convey. Now I know some of the "nubies" here are only nubies to the board, but not to the hobby. You guys will do fine and will gather others trust and respect including providers. I didn't realize there were so many decent fellows were out there! And I do appreciate your words of encourage meant for my friend, Nkykinky! The imature, crass and otherwise disrespective dipshits will only find trying to find a session from b / p scammer or stroking themselves as they have basically blocked themselves from true quality ladies from this site. I also appreciate the great comments from my friend Jry Wild1 who is still a regular member, but has given to this board a wealth of infomation, great posts and awesome reviews. Still can't believe he is remains a regular member! Hell, he has steered me to several great gals as I have him! That is what this board is about. Sharing of good intel to benifit all of us. Hobbyists and providers.

We have lost SincyAssman, Nkykinky stepped to the sidelines, Whodeyman is fed up and only posts a bit. Valuable intel from Seniors who had a finger on the button for great info. I had stepped aside for three months over the summer due to this crap and considering again.

I have helped numerous fellows here and enjoy your PM's (Anexec, Shavani. Bucks et all and have helped you to reach the "promished land! ") I will continue this with respectful members.

To those of you "nubies" who have recentlly weighed in on the possitive (too many to list. You know who you are as well as me, thanks for the support. Okay, I'm now rambling, talking too much and will most likely be called out fot this! LOL!

WM.

Probably had some mispelled words that Professor JR will get after me on! To lazy to spell check!

To all have a great weekend, enjoy and always be safe!

Hendrx

10-16-10, 22:03

Saw Meagan from back page. Very sweet and pretty girl. Easy to set up appointment with. Highly recommend. As a side note I have been browsing this site for some time and would like to thank senior members for their advice and for sharing their experience's. As always stay safe.

Hendrx

Ky Guy 123

10-17-10, 01:12

Hiya,

I'm thinking that the ad listed below is the one in question? There is no 'Meagan' listed anywhere in the Cinci BP, but there is a Megan however. Megan has been reviewed several times in the past, and it was always very favorable. I'm glad that you enjoyed yourself. For future postings though, sometimes it helps to include the ad link in the report, to aid those that decide to follow up on your advice. It also helps avoid the potential miscommunication of having multiple lasses with the same name and someone being confused. Anyway, glad ya enjoyed yourself. .

Jay.

http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/independant-anytime-discreet-fun-25/5948296.

Saw Meagan from back page. Very sweet and pretty girl. Easy to set up appointment with. Highly recommend. As a side note I have been browsing this site for some time and would like to thank senior members for their advice and for sharing their experience's. As always stay safe.

Hendrx

Giani

10-17-10, 10:11

Even with my regular reading and occasional posting, I am not even sure what the current 'strum und drang" on this forum is about, and why feathers got so ruffled. All of us who have been posting for the long term have had our feathers occasionally ruffled, and possibly withdrawn for a while. But if you post, you should expect the slings and arrows. Playing this posting game sometimes requires a thick skin. Take a deep breath, and come back when you have your balance back. Everyone has something of value to contribute. Newbies need a little slack here and there, maybe with an occasional smack here and there, hey?

I still maintain that Cincinnati has several of the richest, most active sites on the USASG. It only works because we all take the time to report our experiences, and occasionally give feedback to others. My expectation is that we will all continue supporting the site with our observations, mistakes, and gained wisdom.

Frankly, I am hoping that our collective observations will guide us to where all the girls have gone! The current drought has not only dried up our lawns and gardens! Post your general observations, please! By the same token, please use PM to give precise specifics which LE could otherwise use. I still am interested in the relative benefits of SWs versus escorts. My belief is that careful attention to the rules can make either relatively safe and rip-of free, but I am still thrilled by the street hunt, and the occasional diamond one finds. And always... treat the girls with respect, but do not offer temptation which is too strong to resist.

P.S. JACKSON: Thanks SO much for returning the Photogallery. You said you would, and you did!

Golfcart

10-17-10, 11:11

Hiya,

I'm thinking that the ad listed below is the one in question? There is no 'Meagan' listed anywhere in the Cinci BP, but there is a Megan however. Megan has been reviewed several times in the past, and it was always very favorable. I'm glad that you enjoyed yourself. For future postings though, sometimes it helps to include the ad link in the report, to aid those that decide to follow up on your advice. It also helps avoid the potential miscommunication of having multiple lasses with the same name and someone being confused. Anyway, glad ya enjoyed yourself. .

Jay.

http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/independant-anytime-discreet-fun-25/5948296. I certainly agree with Jay. We have Megan, Meagan, Brooke and Brook, etc. The girls employ spelling variations to separate themselves from the pack, all well and good, but fail to observe the spelling variation as they go forward. Many have a directory handle, profile, website and email addy with different spelling of the same name. It gets confusing talking about a name on the board. Which one is she? Plus a new girl will come along and adopt a name confusingly similar to a recognized girl on purpose and a guy comes along and posts about one name or the other without a link and we have no idea the girl he is discussing.

This bugs me.

Member #4523

10-17-10, 15:01

I still maintain that Cincinnati has several of the richest, most active sites on the USASG. It only works because we all take the time to report our experiences, and occasionally give feedback to others. My expectation is that we will all continue supporting the site with our observations, mistakes, and gained wisdom.Over the past year I have found this site to be extremely useful and hope it continues to be so in the future. I try to post any of my experiences that might have value, even amusement value, and I encourage all of you to do the same so that the forum activity stays high.

To highlight how active this forum is compared to some others, let me share a recent experience. I was in Dallas last week and had planned to go to one of the AMPs in that city. I read the Dallas forum under Massage Parlor Reports and learned enough to make an informed decision, but I thought I'd put a post on the Dallas forum the day before to see if anyone might offer some last minute useful intel. I posted my question last Wednesday (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php? 3755-Massage-Parlor-Reports)

Not only did I NOT get any response prior to my Friday visit to Blue Angels, my post is still the most recent post on the Dallas forum FOUR DAYS later! Now Dallas is a much larger city that Cincy, but our site is far more active and I am sure I would have gotten either a PM or a post in answer to my query within 24 hours had I posted on our forum.

Lady Lashay

10-18-10, 21:28

After a long period of consideration, I have come upon a solution to this issue.

No the issue isn't non verified or irrelevant post, it is the influx of newbie's with no patience to take the time to learn the board etiquette, read the forum or learn how to act as an adult in this very serious hobby.

With the exception of the current group of regular members that I converse with I have decided to join other Senior members I know and terminate any interaction or conversations with non Senior status members. It is a waste of my time to try and assist / educate these infants. I was told and didn't listen. I tried to be a nice guy but you know where they finish. From now on I will post all of my information via PM to my trusted friends. No more open posting of the rampant rip-off and blackmail scams, etc. Etc. It will all occur via PM.

To all current and future newbies, good luck, you are going to need it.

KG, Out! Awh Sweetie

I know it's very nerve racking to read some of the crap that gets wrote

But without Great men like you these pups will get fed to the wolves

And I am a little hungry (wink wink)

And believe me sometimes I just wanta smack a few around.

Just for the fun of it.

Please have a little more patience

It's like planting a Flower and nurture it and trim it and b / 4 long you.

Know it becomes full bloom.

Just take a few minutes and relax

With a Great Massage from Me.

Kisses Lady

MassageFreak

10-20-10, 11:08

Havingphun

10-20-10, 11:40

Hey Bill,

The problem isn't that the Dallas folks are stingy with their intel, it's just that they are sharing it on a site other than this one. I had the flip side problem when I moved up here from TX. I was posting on Cinci topics to the site that I used to post to down in TX and getting no / few responses. That's when I started looking for alternative sites and encountered this one.

Over the past year I have found this site to be extremely useful and hope it continues to be so in the future. I try to post any of my experiences that might have value, even amusement value, and I encourage all of you to do the same so that the forum activity stays high.

To highlight how active this forum is compared to some others, let me share a recent experience. I was in Dallas last week and had planned to go to one of the AMPs in that city. I read the Dallas forum under Massage Parlor Reports and learned enough to make an informed decision, but I thought I'd put a post on the Dallas forum the day before to see if anyone might offer some last minute useful intel. I posted my question last Wednesday (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php? 3755-Massage-Parlor-Reports)

Not only did I NOT get any response prior to my Friday visit to Blue Angels, my post is still the most recent post on the Dallas forum FOUR DAYS later! Now Dallas is a much larger city that Cincy, but our site is far more active and I am sure I would have gotten either a PM or a post in answer to my query within 24 hours had I posted on our forum.

Nkykinkyguy

10-20-10, 13:33

With a post like that you are bound to become best friends with Roseman and Dillsboro Dave for sure. Look them up they have all the info you are looking for.

KG.

I noticed alot of drama here, some of you guys seem to have nothing better to do than go at each other. I will say it is entertaining though. Lastly, can any of you give me details on a hot lady that is worth the money in the area. I am too afraid to call randomly and would like someone to shoot me info so I don't put myself out there.

Thanks for all the information I will get in advance.

Heyrupert14

10-20-10, 21:48

With an opening statement like that who the hell would want to share anything with you?

I noticed alot of drama here, some of you guys seem to have nothing better to do than go at each other. I will say it is entertaining though. Lastly, can any of you give me details on a hot lady that is worth the money in the area. I am too afraid to call randomly and would like someone to shoot me info so I don't put myself out there.

Thanks for all the information I will get in advance.

Jry Wild1

10-21-10, 09:24

Perhaps I'm just slow to the party on this one. I have been "complaining" that the formatting toolbar in the "Quick Reply PM" was not everywhere. It takes time to bold, italicize, or underline text in these posts by manually typing the [b] [i] [u] tags around the text. I thought the formatting bar would be very helpful.

Well through the serendipity of an accidental keyboard entry, I discovered that if you press control+b, control+i, or control+u (presumably command+b, command+i, or command+u on a Mac) that the appropriate tags are inserted and your cursor is automatically placed between the [b] [i] or [u] tags. Also, if you have text selected, and press the appropriate keys the selected text will be surrounded by the tags. There may be other keyboard combinations that are helpful, so keep your eyes open.

Now, this may have ALWAYS been there, it may be new with the recent upgrade. Regardless, I'm pretty sure it is undocumented to the best of my knowledge. Hope this helps everyone who likes to embellish or emphasize their posts.

FYI, this was posted on Firefox on a PC. I have not tested Internet Destroyer, Safari, or those browsers on my Mac. So YMMV.

Be safe, Be well,

JR.

P. S. I'll edit this after it reaches the board to "fix" the "automatic text cleanup" corrections (changing "control+u" into "control+you", capitalizing words after brackets, deleting closing parentheses that are right before punctuation marks, etc.). Hope it is clear enough in the meantime.

Wingman Todd

10-21-10, 23:42

I rarely ever go to backpage anymore due to the closeure of C/L. All the scammers for the most part have migrated to here. But I wanted to check the menus. But I found it interesting when clicking on the home page that:

Women men (under review)

No strings attached (under review)

Missed connect (under review)

Adult jobs (images under review)

Sounds like they are under scrutiny by the LE as well. This is going to mean that many more scammers will be flocking to the "Escort section of B/P. I did notice a few that were legit, but just be EXTREMELY carefully when sampling from this site! Use all the tools you may know to cross check the gals. Otherwise, you will be posting on the "Rip-off" thread and out of your hard earned money!

My advice is to save your time and stay on the more quality and proven sites!

Just my thoughts!

Wm

Liquid Ice

10-22-10, 09:21

I noticed alot of drama here, some of you guys seem to have nothing better to do than go at each other. I will say it is entertaining though. Lastly, can any of you give me details on a hot lady that is worth the money in the area. I am too afraid to call randomly And would like someone to shoot me info so I don't put myself out there.

Thanks for all the information I will get in advance. I'll go out on a limb with some advice here. Check out BP and e. Com for ladies that pique your interest. When you find some, do a forum search for reviews, check reviews on e. Com, then google search and yahoo search until you're confident enough to call. When you do finally call, use a hobby phone. In case you don't know what a hobby phone is, it is a cheap prepaid phone that you use for the hobby. Paying cash for your minutes prevents any personal information from being associated with that phone number.

If you do all of this, then you're no longer "randomly" calling because you've done your research and are confident in your call that is placed on a phone that has no connection to you. But just because you are confident does not mean you shouldn't still be cautious.

Jry Wild1

10-22-10, 14:46

Liquid Ice,

I don't know if you are new to the hobby or not, but well said. It's refreshing to see a new member helping someone out. It's even more refreshing seeing a new member that either knows what they are doing or has read the forum enough to reply to someone intelligently. Good solid help there. There are some other things to do / try, but you hit some good ones.

There has been a lot of "bashing" on here lately of some of the new members. I feel there should also be praises for the new members that show that they know what they are doing. I know this may belong in the Rant's and Raves thread, but I think it will be better served posted here with the associated report.

I will also add to your advice. Be careful on BP. Since the closure of CL's adult section, BP has been flooded with a lot of scammers. E* dot com, indys, etc. Are probably a little safer. I repeat the "search here for reviews first" comment. And, if you can show that you have some basic understanding of what you are doing, you can PM a senior or trusted regular member and ask them for advice and help. I won't belabor the point regarding what "showing that you have some basic understanding" means. If you understand what I mean, you are probably already on the right track.

JR.

I'll go out on a limb with some advice here. Check out BP and e. Com for ladies that pique your interest. When you find some, do a forum search for reviews, check reviews on e. Com, then google search and yahoo search until you're confident enough to call. When you do finally call, use a hobby phone. In case you don't know what a hobby phone is, it is a cheap prepaid phone that you use for the hobby. Paying cash for your minutes prevents any personal information from being associated with that phone number.

If you do all of this, then you're no longer "randomly" calling because you've done your research and are confident in your call that is placed on a phone that has no connection to you. But just because you are confident does not mean you shouldn't still be cautious.

Ssimpson290

10-23-10, 08:51

If this is common knowledge, I will try to delete. (I know some Sr's have mentioned using it) When doing searches on Google for info in BP ads, I noticed some ads would say no longer found. You notice some of the links in your Google search say "cached. " It means Googles saves a copy of the ad. Looks like this:

www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?ID=*. Cached.

Just click on the word Cached.

Hardlikker

10-24-10, 11:03

I recently took a trip out of town and I had to rely on BP. Seemed like most of the young hotties had non local area codes. Then when they answer the phone they start talking the talk calling me honey, sweetie and babe over and over. That is so tiresome and a total turnoff to me. Then it turns out that none of them are ready to go right away. It's always a few hrs later or after 11pm. One lady agreed on a price and said she would be at my hotel in 20 minutes. She never showed and when I tried calling back her number she never answered.

CL was never this bad.

Nkykinkyguy

10-24-10, 11:22

Hey fellow Senior,

I just sent you a PM with some info. PM me back.

KG.

I recently took a trip out of town and I had to rely on BP. Seemed like most of the young hotties had non local area codes. Then when they answer the phone they start talking the talk calling me honey, sweetie and babe over and over. That is so tiresome and a total turnoff to me. Then it turns out that none of them are ready to go right away. It's always a few hrs later or after 11pm. One lady agreed on a price and said she would be at my hotel in 20 minutes. She never showed and when I tried calling back her number she never answered.

CL was never this bad.

Jry Wild1

10-24-10, 23:11

I am asking every member of the Cincinnati Forum to Please Read This Entire Post

As all of you know, the Cincinnati forum has turned to crap over the past month or so. "Newbie" bashing. Abusive language. Disrespecting each other. Disrespecting the Providers. Basically, treating each other like garbage.

In a recent discussion via PM with a member with whom I have had disagreements regarding their posts, I was asked if the advice I gave him applied to everyone. That started me thinking.

YES, the advice I am giving you applies to EVERYONE.

New Members, Old Members. Young Persons, Old Persons. New to the Hobby, Old to the Hobby. Regular Members and Seniors. Hobbyists and Providers. All of you and myself included. Frankly, even if you have not been directly involved or vocal in what has been going on, it includes you too!

I am asking each and every one of you To join with me in an effort to return this forum to what it is meant to be. It has been said before, we are all here for the same thing. The childish behavior exhibited by so many Members (both Regular and Senior) of this forum is disgraceful. We are all adults and we should be acting like it. This has degenerated to the point where there is almost no reason to even read this forum anymore.

I am calling for a Truce. A Cease Fire. An Amnesty. By EVERYONE

That means no more "bashing" by the Seniors of the "new" or "low report count" Members.

No tirades by the New Members about how the Seniors are acting "holier than thou"

No degradation, name calling, nastiness, or abusive language used against Regular Members, Senior Members, or Providers by ANYONE.

I am asking that you begin treating each other with courtesy and respect. Like civilized Human Beings.

If we do not join together and accomplish this goal as a unified community, we all might as well just never come back here. No matter what has been said, we all need each other on this forum. Seniors, Regular Members, Providers. If information and advice is not shared by ALL members, NO ONE will benefit.

Every time someone replies to a previous "inflamed" comment with another mocking or abusive comment, the turmoil escalates. Then there is yet another acerbic comment. And things escalate a little further.

Hear me when I shout, "IT HAS GONE TOO FAR AND GONE ON LONG ENOUGH". I'm not trying to preach at you or anything, because based on what has been posted by many of you, I think you all already agree with me. If we as a group do not make a conscious effort to stop this, it will not happen and this insanity will perpetuate.

Does this mean that the "lazy" posts by Members (Senior or Regular) who just want to leech off the forum will stop?

Does this mean that everyone will contribute and be a productive Member (Senior or Regular) of the forum?

Does this mean that the "clueless" posts by Members (Senior or Regular) who don't know better will stop?

Unfortunately, the answer to these questions is "NO". If you look in ANY forum, you will see that this happens everywhere.

So what do we do? I propose that we don't just GIVE these members intel. We advise them of how to post, how to do the research themselves, and how to ask for help. BUT, The important part is that we don't just "bash" them or deride them in the open forum or reply with "RTFF". That only leads to where we are today.

Old adage: "Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach him to fish and he can feed himself for a lifetime"

If we just give These members intel, they will not learn. Teach each other instead. Help every member to become a productive member of the forum. Some might want choose to ignore the "ignorant newcomers", hoping they will just go away. Some may, but ignoring them will not solve the problem. There will always be another new member who needs guidance.

I am willing to write a set of guidelines that could be offered to those who are willing to learn and accept the guidance of those who have come before. I would welcome the input of anyone (Senior, Regular, Provider, old or new) who would like to collaborate with me on that endeavor.

I understand that many of the current group of seniors are tired of trying. I truly understand that and the frustration that they are feeling. If they want to step back, feeling that they have already done enough, I accept that. I hope that some of the seniors will continue to help or come back to help. They really DO have a lot of experience to share with the newer members of this forum and and new members of this hobby. I have learned much from them. Regardless, a new group must always step up to take leadership at some point. Which is as it should be. The student becomes the master.

I know egos have been bruised. Sensibilities have been shattered. Mob behavior has taken over. I am asking you all to put it aside and try to work together once again.

I believe I already have the support of a few of the Seniors and some of the Regular Members, notably Nkykinkyguy and CooperLamar. I believe they have both agreed to set aside their personal "feud" that has raged the Escorts Reports thread for several days now. I hope that both of them will vocally support my idea of reunification for the Cincinnati Forum. As I hope others will too.

I will leave you with a couple of last thoughts on how to accomplish some of this. It is not all inclusive, but it is a basic start.

THINK before you post.

1) If what you want to say is personal or directed to one person, send it via PM. Not the open forum.

2) If you disagree with something that someone posted, send it via PM. Not the open forum. Have an open discussion with them. Not an argument. Give them a chance to explain, maybe you misunderstood. Maybe if you express your point of view, they might agree with you and revise their post. Remember, not everyone agrees with each other. Be prepared to let it be.

3) If what you want to say benefits multiple people or the whole forum. Post an open report.

I believe using PM's effectively is probably the single most important thing that could be done to cut out all of this crap.

More importantly, Express yourself with tact and respect. Do not use abusive language or name calling. Be articulate and reasonable. I am willing to state unequivocally that if you approach another person with respect and grace, they will respond likewise.

Sorry for taking up so much space and in all of the threads, but I believe this had to be said.

JR

Jry Wild1

10-26-10, 09:40

Hi Jry Wild1,

The forum has a section for discussing the Forum's operation

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?340-Comment-on-Forum-Rules-Here

Thanks,

Jackson

Daytonfreek

10-27-10, 01:17

ATTENTION ALL PROVIDERS AND HOBBYISTS!

Norwood has been swarming with LE lately. Local LE, as well as sheriff deputies have been maintaining a thick presence throughout Norwood. I recommend staying away until things cool off. If you must go there, watch your six and drive like Gandhi. Hopefully things will cool off soon.

Jay Malibu

10-27-10, 12:26

Anyone have any idea of what's up with the E dot com site today? It's been down all morning.

Ezenuf

10-27-10, 14:10

Been trying just lately and it's down, worked this morning though.

Phlasher

10-27-10, 14:55

Just to hazard a guess, I noted they had made some changes in the past couple of days. Maybe there are more in store.

Been trying just lately and it's down, worked this morning though.

Lady Lashay

10-27-10, 15:42

Been trying just lately and it's down, worked this morning though.Well you don't really need E. Com when there are so many Sexy Women right here.

Kisses Lady

Jay Malibu

10-27-10, 16:55

From another source on another board: Some sort of LE raid on office in Philly. Seems odd but that's all I know right now.

Wingman Todd

10-27-10, 17:57

FBI and Philly police conducted a raid on their offices today! Awaiting more info to share.

From another source on another board: Some sort of LE raid on office in Philly. Seems odd but that's all I know right now.

Golfcart

10-27-10, 18:14

E Dot Com was working late this morning when I was on. It stopped responding when I went back during the noon hour. A few hours later I received a report from a girl saying the FBI raided it this afternoon in Philadelphia.

I recall that E Dot Com's site says somewhere on a page that it is property of R S Duffy, Inc. I did a google search that turned up the following interesting reading: http://randazza.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/fbi-raids-hotmovies/.

Note that E Dot Com and R S Duffy, Inc. appear in this report.

This does not look good.

P. S.

Here is another report: http://www.thedomains.com/

And another:
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2010/10/27/center-city-prostitution-ring-raid/
Note this is a news report by CBS's affiliate in Philadelphia so the URL may not last very long.

Lots of smoke here.

Ky Guy 123

10-27-10, 19:24

Lovely. This ought to make research a little more. Interesting, to say the least. Yeesh. Glad there's no worse crimes giong on in Philly, like, oh, I don't know, the 50+ violent crimes a day they have.100+ officers to secure a business office. Hope no one got a papercut. All this is going to do is drive the smart folks to host their sites from offshore locations where the long arm of the US law can't dictate or threaten, at least, not like this. Anyone know where Jackson hosts this site from? He might want to consider some security measures with all this shyte coming down before the elections. Just sayin'.

Jay.

E Dot Com was working late this morning when I was on. It stopped responding when I went back during the noon hour. A few hours later I received a report from a girl saying the FBI raided it this afternoon in Philadelphia.

I recall that E Dot Com's site says somewhere on a page that it is property of are S Duffy, Inc. I did a google search that turned up the following interesting reading: http://randazza.wordpress.com/2010/10/27/fbi-raids-hotmovies/.

Note that E Dot Com and are S Duffy, Inc. Appear in this report.

This does not look good.

P. S.

Here is another report: http://www.thedomains.com/

And another:

http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2010/10/27/center-city-prostitution-ring-raid/

Note this is a news report by CBS's affiliate in Philadelphia so the URL may not last very long.

Lots of smoke here.

Golfcart

10-27-10, 20:12

I read a report E is back up. The report didn't say who is running it. I haven't decided whether to log on.

* Anyone know where Jackson hosts this site from? He might want to consider some security measures with all this shyte coming down before the elections. Just sayin'.

Jay. I saw a question once about USASG's servers. Jackson said the servers are overseas in a place subpoenas don't reach. He receives at least one subpoena a year and his lawyer responds to jump in a lake. This isn't an exact quote. I've thought having servers overseas would not work if Jackson is here. Maybe Jackson is there.

Waltmore

10-27-10, 20:49

It has been back up for a while, I figure if there intent is to try and get anyone through this action they would already have all the information they need. I would be hard pressed to believe that they could make a case on providers or clients with that information. The evidence would all be circumstantial and as such would not be of any use without corroborating testimony or evidence. We would be worth so little as local consumers (misdemeanor charges at worst) that it would not be worth their efforts. Now as to are. S. Duffy / Escorts. Com they would be looking at more substantial charges all of which would be felonies. In actuality though, no one is one hundred per cent certain exactly what the scope of this action is as yet. We will just wait and see, but if you see a provider on escorts that bears an uncanny resemblance to J. Edgar Hoover don't bother calling, he didn't look all that great in his dress, LOL.

I read a report E is back up. The report didn't say who is running it. I haven't decided whether to log on.

I saw a question once about USASG's servers. Jackson said the servers are overseas in a place subpoenas don't reach. He receives at least one subpoena a year and his lawyer responds to jump in a lake. This isn't an exact quote. I've thought having servers overseas would not work if Jackson is here. Maybe Jackson is there.

Nkykinkyguy

10-29-10, 12:10

Part of the E. Com raid that you may not have known about.

KG.

http://www.tollfreenumbers.com/news/primetel-raid.html

Jay Malibu

10-29-10, 14:47

For MC it was money laundering and tax evasion. Big crimes and high profile. Now if Elliot Spitzer or some other political figure were using the site, that would be another interesting twist.

NC Wanderer

10-30-10, 12:44

I've thought having servers overseas would not work if Jackson is here. Maybe Jackson is there.Jackson is in Agentina

Wingman Todd

10-31-10, 22:59

Waltmore

10-31-10, 23:51

Caution is always appropriate when dealing with delicate matters. Merely viewing a site, even one such as this, is not an illegal activity, in fact nothing posted there will stand on its own merits in a court of law. The bigger issue is that of what could possibly come from such a site being compromised. Providers who have been identified as "safe" in the past are highly unlikely to be somehow compromised by the current action. Maintaining a low profile and flying under the radar is usually the best course of action at any time in any endeavor such as this. The government has had the ability to out each and every one of us at any time that it so chooses. The internet has been so compromised by the government for "homeland security" issues that to think that we have created any sanctuary from the eyes of our big brother in the. See, is an illusion. If you perceive your anonymity as being secure on the internet then you are only deluding yourself. Of course this is just my opinion and I appreciate this opportunity to express it.

I still would proceed with caution regarding the e-com site. I have a review that was posted on 10-26 that still has not been approved. Plus I received an e-mail from a quality source today saying it is still a HOT site! When I get more intel, I will post. But I would still procedd with big caution when contacting anyone from here. As previously stated, "we don't know who is running the site". Just my humble thoughts. I from one, error on the safe side.

WM

WarlockKy

11-01-10, 18:32

I still would proceed with caution regarding the e-com site. I have a review that was posted on 10-26 that still has not been approved. Plus I received an e-mail from a quality source today saying it is still a HOT site! When I get more intel, I will post. But I would still procedd with big caution when contacting anyone from here. As previously stated,"we don't know who is running the site". Just my humble thoughts. I from one, error on the safe side.

WMThat they have the usual adult site disclaimer on their home page now.

I do find it interesting that I cannot tracert or ping site.

Their routing on Verizon now lands in Virginia as opposed to Philly.

Wingman Todd

11-01-10, 18:52

I had a dream that the FBI headquarters are located in Langley, Va? HMMMMM! Makes you wonder!

That they have the usual adult site disclaimer on their home page now.

I do find it interesting that I cannot tracert or ping site.

Their routing on Verizon now lands in Virginia as opposed to Philly.

Jay Malibu

11-01-10, 22:30

That they have the usual adult site disclaimer on their home page now.

I do find it interesting that I cannot tracert or ping site.

Their routing on Verizon now lands in Virginia as opposed to Philly. # http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets; q=208.236.11.29? ShowDetails=true&showARIN=false.

#

MCI Communications Services, Inc. The / b/a Verizon Business UUNET1996B (NET-208-192-0-0-1) 208.192.0.0.208.255.255.255.

Prime Tel UU-208-236-8 (NET-208-236-8-0-1) 208.236.8.0.208.236.11.255.

The site terminates on a Prime Tel subnet. Several class C's. My trace route terminated in Philly. Typically sites of this size will have servers in multiple locations with geographic routing based on load.

WarlockKy

11-01-10, 23:27

# http://whois.arin.net/rest/nets; q=208.236.11.29? ShowDetails=true&showARIN=false.

#

MCI Communications Services, Inc. The / b/a Verizon Business UUNET1996B (NET-208-192-0-0-1) 208.192.0.0.208.255.255.255.

Prime Tel UU-208-236-8 (NET-208-236-8-0-1) 208.236.8.0.208.236.11.255.

The site terminates on a Prime Tel subnet. Several class see's. My trace route terminated in Philly. Typically sites of this size will have servers in multiple locations with geographic routing based on load. But rather than look at the whois look at where the trace runs to.

Up until the "raid" it was staying on Verizon's net and ending in Philly, now it's landing in Va on the same network as TER did right after it got popped a few years back.

65.242.110.22.

Two weeks after that the TER website's DNS entries and hosting moved to an ISP in Amsterdam.

My bet is that we're seeing the servers on their way out of the US.

Jay Malibu

11-01-10, 23:35

My trace route terminated at the 208 address. Did it multiple times. Prolly a geographic load balancer.

Ky Guy 123

11-02-10, 01:08

Ha! Do ya blame them? I'm surprised they weren't set up offshore years ago. Ah well, learning by hindsight is still learning at least. .

Jay.

But rather than look at the whois look at where the trace runs to.

Up until the "raid" it was staying on Verizon's net and ending in Philly, now it's landing in Va on the same network as another site did right after it got popped a few years back.

65.242.110.22.

Two weeks after that the another site website's DNS entries and hosting moved to an ISP in Amsterdam.

My bet is that we're seeing the servers on their way out of the US.

Harpo2u

11-04-10, 23:18

Guys.

This information has been sent to me by a provider I won't name here but she was given information from a source called "Provider's Voice".

I can't give the link but here is what the message reads:

Escorts. Com was raided, by the FBI and IRS, on Thursday. * At this point, it appears that Escorts. Com is cooperating with the FBI. * As well, they are being dishonest with members and refusing to acknowledge the situation. * It has also recently come to our attention that the FBI now has the login information (including passwords, billing information, and IP address of every member of Escorts. Com. * At this point, we recommend account deletion, and contact with only fully verified clients that you have seen before. Feel free to contact me, with any questions or concerns. *

Lisa Wolf.

Empowerment Coordinator.

Provider's Voice*

providersvoice@gmail.com

Not sure how reliable this message is but I do have a gut feeling that it is actually true. I know that once the IRS gets involved, WATCH OUT. Take steps to clean up your computers and maybe get new hard drives if you know what I mean. IRS don't fuck around. If you have a membership on E-Com delete it. Better safe than sorry.

Harpo

Jry Wild1

11-05-10, 09:24

Again, can't be sure how reliable this is, but I found this post on another site with some interesting commentary regarding e dot com and similar "busts". Minor edits made so that Jackson or "auto text cleanup" did not have to.

Re:escorts DOT com?

(Date Posted:10/31/2010 17:57 PM)

I'm going to dig deep in the AHS 'archives' and suggest that everyone read through this thread, and all of the corresponding links: http://craigslistladies.aimoo.com/Rants-and-Raves/The-Story-about-the-*********-Bust-1-114880.html

Here's the gist of it all: BigD*ie was busted in a similar raid a number of years ago. The goal was to bust both the website owners and the advertising providers. After 2 years of gathering evidence, the cops closed in and arrested a bunch of people. In the process, the clients were offered immunity and anonymity in exchange for information. (That the clients were given a deal when others weren't is interesting in and of itself, but not the point here)

The upshot: the charges against the website owners and several providers were dropped because the writing and publishing of provider ads and reviews is free speech. Just like I can post that "last week I snorted a lot of cocaine" (NO, I DIDN'T. It's just an example) without getting arrested, we can legally post ads and reviews. Even if LE has your IP address (and they do. Even if you haven't logged on since the bust, and even if they have your billing info (if you actually used a 'real' credit card, they cannot come and arrest you.

They have to either 1) catch you in the act agreeing to exchange goods for services, or 2) one person (the provider or client) needs to testify against the other. In the BigD*ie bust, the primary reason the providers were let go is because the clients would not publicly testify against them. This should serve as yet another reminder to everyone on the board. If you are questioned by the police SHUT UP! Don't make up excuses or false stories. Don't try to explain. Don't open your mouth. Period.

But don't take my word for it. Read the info in the attached thread for yourself, and then make your own determination.

I say all this regardless of the fact that we have no real of idea of exactly what they were looking for in the bust. There were IRS agents there. So I wonder if this is more about tax evasion than busting individual providers. In any case, the point is, no one knows.

Hopefully, the link translated (PM me it didn't. I think a couple of interesting points to highlight here are: 1) they have probably been collecting information for a while now. Logging on now, or not, probably won't make a difference. They have your information 2) if you are contacted or questioned, DON'T SAY ANYTHING. Get a lawyer. This is basic 101 stuff, but it bears repeating. You don't want to inadvertently implicate yourself or someone else. It is your legal right to not say anything. And, that does not automatically mean you are guilty of anything. You can implicate yourself even by telling the "whole truth and nothing but the truth" (PM me for some info on this) 3) bear in mind the point above that if you were not caught in the act and someone doesn't testify against you, you will probably be safe. And, reciprocally, don't "roll over" on someone else. We should be protecting each other.4) Freedom of speech does allow you to post what you want, including ads and reviews. Writing something on the internet does not make it true. You are not 'under oath' or required to be telling the truth in any way when you post an ad or write something in a forum. THAT is your defense. It doesn't matter if you write, 'I had a dream' or 'My friend told me' or whatever. You can write what you want.

As always, consult a lawyer regarding the legal matters, my comments and those of the person's I quoted should not be considered legal advice, but I think they make a lot of sense and I believe them to be accurate.

The below was also posted in the thread, assumedly sent prior to the message that Harpo posted. Again, I made couple of minor edits, so that Jackson did not have to.

Hello, Ladies

This is Lisa Wolf, Empowerment Coordinator for Provider's Voice. It has come to my attention that something unusual occurred, with the [e dot com] staff, on Thursday, October 27th. Although we are not clear, at this point, as to what exactly happened, until you receive a reasonable explanation from [e dot com], we advise you to limit your contact / advertising through [e dot com]. If you choose to communicate with your contacts, we advise you to divert to your personal e-mail addresses, for the time being. Feel free to contact me, with any questions or concerns.

Be Safe and Aware,

Lisa Wolf.

Empowerment Coordinator.

Provider's Voice I appreciate the info Harpo. It spurred me to find what I did. Let's keep the good information flowing here. Anyone else have anything to add?

Be safe out there!

JR.

Guys.

This information has been sent to me by a provider I won't name here but she was given information from a source called "Provider's Voice".

Harpo

Caligulaxxx

11-09-10, 16:41

Gents and ladies if present: I work for state governments, four of them. Prior to that I ran six firms from coast to coast, I know the law.

It does not matter what happened at e. Com. You cannot get in trouble. Post away is is all hearsay and does not mean shit to the law. Do not act like scared children.

The reality of the situation on e. Com is more likely due to unpaid taxes more than it is them wanting to lock up skirt chasers and womanizers. That's me and that's you. They don't give a shit about us. They just want money.

Trust me, I know.

A matter of far more importance and one far more interesting is the list of "johns" phone numbers that is circulating the cincinnnati area.

Check with your friends in the area that you trust. From what I have been able to gather so far it is a small number of traveling providers that are working with police. So far the one I know for sure goes by the name of mercedes and kandie and various other ignorant spellings. She is black and used a 305 area code and a 574 area code. She resides in northern indiana or possibly florida, not sure which. If you seen her or called her or texted her then your number is probably on the list.

I pulled a few fast strings to find that out. I have connections and want to pass this along.

I am a lover of women first and a hobbyist for life. I don't wish to see anyone get in trouble for fucking.

Be safe, and seniors may pm me for the list of phone numbers.

NewJerseyG

11-10-10, 00:32

I have worked in the office of some fairly well known criminal attorneys. The criminal attorneys get to see the nasty side of the city (as thats their bread and butter) the ecom case is about the irs wanting tax money and probably some ties to organized crime rip offs with web sites. The FBI does not give a hoot about a guy balling a SW in some cheap hotel room or a van. Cases involving raids always have something to do with tax money or organized crime rings not the customer who just wanted to get away from his wifey for some lollipop maitenance.

Gents and ladies if present: I work for state governments, four of them. Prior to that I ran six firms from coast to coast, I know the law.

It does not matter what happened at e. Com. You cannot get in trouble. Post away is is all hearsay and does not mean shit to the law. Do not act like scared children.

The reality of the situation on e. Com is more likely due to unpaid taxes more than it is them wanting to lock up skirt chasers and womanizers. That's me and that's you. They don't give a shit about us. They just want money.

Trust me, I know.

A matter of far more importance and one far more interesting is the list of "johns" phone numbers that is circulating the cincinnnati area.

Check with your friends in the area that you trust. From what I have been able to gather so far it is a small number of traveling providers that are working with police. So far the one I know for sure goes by the name of mercedes and kandie and various other ignorant spellings. She is black and used a 305 area code and a 574 area code. She resides in northern indiana or possibly florida, not sure which. If you seen her or called her or texted her then your number is probably on the list.

I pulled a few fast strings to find that out. I have connections and want to pass this along.

I am a lover of women first and a hobbyist for life. I don't wish to see anyone get in trouble for fucking.

Be safe, and seniors may pm me for the list of phone numbers.

Wingman Todd

11-11-10, 12:26

THANK YOU to the brave men and women currently in the service or vet's among us for your commitment to protect and defend our great country! God Bless America!

WingmanTodd

Delicious Dawn

11-11-10, 23:43

Ladies. If you want to use the site. Simply purchase a pre paid visa, make sure to register online first so as you can aquire online purchases, and then go to e dot com and enter your info that you registered your pre paid card with. Please be smart and make up all information.

Ex: 1234 such and such street.

Fake City and state, zip.

Name. So on. Do not use your correct information.

It is not needed.

I did exactly above and upgraded my account. Reviews and everything is intact. They just want us to pay.

No age verification is needed if you upgrade. Only if you want to be a free registered member. To do that though, you will need to give them correct information which I would not advice.

Just some advice from me to you.

Be safe and have fun to all.

Dawn

Jry Wild1

11-12-10, 10:30

Dawn, Dawn, Dawn...

You must have been half asleep when you posted at almost 11PM. Misspelled "acquire". Misspelled "advise". Other wording jumbles *laughs* You don't post since June and now this... Get some sleep! *chuckles*

Seriously, though, glad you posted this. Thank you for the follow up. Good information for all of the ladies. I agree, never use your real information if you can ever avoid it. Pass this on!

JR.

Ladies. If you want to use the site. Simply purchase a pre paid visa, make sure to register online first so as you can aquire online purchases, and then go to e dot com and enter your info that you registered your pre paid card with. Please be smart and make up all information.

Ex: 1234 such and such street.

Fake City and state, zip.

Name. So on. Do not use your correct information.

It is not needed.

I did exactly above and upgraded my account. Reviews and everything is intact. They just want us to pay.

No age verification is needed if you upgrade. Only if you want to be a free registered member. To do that though, you will need to give them correct information which I would not advice.

Just some advice from me to you.

Be safe and have fun to all.

Dawn

Wingman Todd

11-12-10, 11:46

It was the wine taking effect! Still, great info for the ladies.

Dawn, Dawn, Dawn.

You must have been half asleep when you posted at almost 11PM. Misspelled "acquire". Misspelled "advise". Other wording jumbles *laughs* You don't post since June and now this. Get some sleep! *chuckles*

Seriously, though, glad you posted this. Thank you for the follow up. Good information for all of the ladies. I agree, never use your real information if you can ever avoid it. Pass this on!

JR.

Delicious Dawn

11-13-10, 09:04

While I may not have receive an A for late night board posting etiquette. I am almost certain you will approve when I spank you later. You will forget and forgive me for my sloppy typos.

That was past my bedtime. Early to bed, early to rise.

On a more serious note: I do hope all of the ladies will continue to be smart and safe. I understand all of the issues that have happened recently have put a few in panic mode and I suppose that's understandable. As long as they continue to screen thoroughly, use their brain, and their instinct, they will be just fine. I see no harm with being on the site just as long as one does not give up their real information. I highly doubt there is anything for us providers to worry about. If the ladies are uncomfortable using that site, they can move to others. This has happened with other sites before and I am sure it will not be the last. I for one am not worried about it. However, I do tend to like to be a rebel. (cakes, LE, and middle fingers) LOL.

Really. I see it no less safe than it was before. If I absolutely thought there was a danger I would not be on that site and you very well know this. I am smart with what I do on the site, off the site, and I only hope the other ladies will be as well.

Wingman: I had not drank any wine until last night. LOL. You make me sound like a late night alcoholic! Just kidding. I am not a drinker. Not a big drinker anymore anyways. Remember what happened the last time I consumed WAY too much? That darn rebel in me. LOL. I still think I looked damn good even with a black eye, bruises, and sore swollen cheek bones. And no. I did not break a leg while at the skating rink last night. LOL.

Jr: Call me. We will discuss that spanking. I will allow you to choose between the paddle or the whip.

As always. Everyone be safe and have fun.

I have not posted on this board for a while, months in fact. I should say Hello, to my friends. While I did post this, I think I will go back to not posting and just reading.

Peace.

Dawn

Jry Wild1

11-13-10, 15:39

Dawn,

Based on the extra credit assignment that you have proposed, I am sure that I will have to revise your grade to an A++. I will contact you as to when and how you can complete your extra credit and "raise" your grade. And, to be clear, I may forgive your sloppy ways, but I will never, ever forget you.

And just so you know, "(cakes, LE, and middle fingers)" ROTFLMFAO. And that was for several minutes, at least. Thank you.

No wine next time. I'm going for Butterscotch schnapps! 21% alcohol and you would never know it *wicked grin*

Paddle? Whip? Paddle? Whip? Hmmmm? Nkykinkyguy, you want to come out of hiding long enough to give me your suggestion on which I should choose?

Dawn, it is always a pleasure. I hope you don't stay away too long. I'll call and schedule your make up work. But, most importantly, thank you for sharing your views on what is going on and your advice (spelled correctly) about safety. Good lessons for all.

Professor JR Wild Thang.

While I may not have receive an A for late night board posting etiquette. I am almost certain you will approve when I spank you later. You will forget and forgive me for my sloppy typos.

That was past my bedtime. Early to bed, early to rise.

On a more serious note: I do hope all of the ladies will continue to be smart and safe. I understand all of the issues that have happened recently have put a few in panic mode and I suppose that's understandable. As long as they continue to screen thoroughly, use their brain, and their instinct, they will be just fine. I see no harm with being on the site just as long as one does not give up their real information. I highly doubt there is anything for us providers to worry about. If the ladies are uncomfortable using that site, they can move to others. This has happened with other sites before and I am sure it will not be the last. I for one am not worried about it. However, I do tend to like to be a rebel. (cakes, LE, and middle fingers) LOL.

Really. I see it no less safe than it was before. If I absolutely thought there was a danger I would not be on that site and you very well know this. I am smart with what I do on the site, off the site, and I only hope the other ladies will be as well.

Wingman: I had not drank any wine until last night. LOL. You make me sound like a late night alcoholic! Just kidding. I am not a drinker. Not a big drinker anymore anyways. Remember what happened the last time I consumed WAY too much? That darn rebel in me. LOL. I still think I looked damn good even with a black eye, bruises, and sore swollen cheek bones. And no. I did not break a leg while at the skating rink last night. LOL.

Jr: Call me. We will discuss that spanking. I will allow you to choose between the paddle or the whip.

As always. Everyone be safe and have fun.

I have not posted on this board for a while, months in fact. I should say Hello, to my friends. While I did post this, I think I will go back to not posting and just reading.

Peace.

Dawn

Kimber1

11-14-10, 12:43

So who has the list and what really can they do with it? All they have is a record of you calling, not what was said or anything that transpired.

Gents and ladies if present: I work for state governments, four of them. Prior to that I ran six firms from coast to coast, I know the law.

It does not matter what happened at e. Com. You cannot get in trouble. Post away is is all hearsay and does not mean shit to the law. Do not act like scared children.

The reality of the situation on e. Com is more likely due to unpaid taxes more than it is them wanting to lock up skirt chasers and womanizers. That's me and that's you. They don't give a shit about us. They just want money.

Trust me, I know.

A matter of far more importance and one far more interesting is the list of "johns" phone numbers that is circulating the cincinnnati area.

Check with your friends in the area that you trust. From what I have been able to gather so far it is a small number of traveling providers that are working with police. So far the one I know for sure goes by the name of mercedes and kandie and various other ignorant spellings. She is black and used a 305 area code and a 574 area code. She resides in northern indiana or possibly florida, not sure which. If you seen her or called her or texted her then your number is probably on the list.

I pulled a few fast strings to find that out. I have connections and want to pass this along.

I am a lover of women first and a hobbyist for life. I don't wish to see anyone get in trouble for fucking.

Be safe, and seniors may pm me for the list of phone numbers.

Ezenuf

11-18-10, 08:14

News.

11/17/2010. Changes to Reviews.

Because of certain changes we have deemed necessary to make to the website, we have removed the General and Specific Details sections from Reviews.

When you read a review you will now only see the answers to questions listed on the review submission form that are for Escort Appearance, Visit Location, and Escort Review Rating.

If you have suggestions for additional questions you think would be a valid addition to the Review submission form please use the SUGGESTIONS link on the Members Console and send us your suggestions.

Fitter392

11-21-10, 14:37

Having just got back I thought I would pass along alittle info. The SW's are all around most look young 18-25. They want to take you to their apt. Which I was told is a roll of the dice of good servic4e or robbed. I did not apply myself to that. MP's accrost from the convention center their is a large building called the Century Center http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.centurycentercondo.com/images/ccbldg.gif&imgrefurl=http://www.centurycentercondo.com/&usg=__p5ciC1SHbItF-jPMB-AsCJZDZ6E=&h=548&w=257&sz=38&hl=en&start=16&zoom=1&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=jF1bDZt06gWnIM:&tbnh=133&tbnw=62&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcentury%2Bcenter%2Bhawaii%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26rls%3Dcom. Microsoft:en-us%26gl%3Dus%26tbs%3Disch:1 it is a large building which is mostly full of MP's maybe 40 or so of them. I chose one and when I went in they said they could get me in now. Problem was they had 3 pvt rooms and 1 semi pvt thats the one I got, so nothing was on the menu but a good 50$ 1 hr massage, but very hot thai girl. I'm sure more could be had in a pvt room.

The next day I went to the Pink Spa accrost from the convention center a Thai MP. $50 goes to mamasan and $150 for FS by a very hot Thai girl non GFE. And a bad massage, but a good time.

That is my report.

Fitter

WarlockKy

11-21-10, 19:30

So who has the list and what really can they do with it? All they have is a record of you calling, not what was said or anything that transpired.Here's an example from up north.

http://www.montgomerycountymd.gov/Apps/Police/News/NA_details.asp?NaID=5695

Once LE has a bit of info and they find you interesting enough it's not unusual to have them dangle a bit of bait.

The best one I've heard happened to a friend of mine in Nashville a couple of years back. Lady that was "touring"

Sent an email to his hobby address telling him the a mutual friend had suggested she contact him. The mutual

Friend had told her how great he was (fill in endowment, skills, etc thake your pick) and she'd like to spend an.

Evening with him for less than her published hour rate.

He called the mutual friend and found out that the other lady had been popped in another city and lost her laptop and cellphone.

Fact of life, various LE in different cities / states do work together and it creates a very nice headline.

Wingman Todd

11-24-10, 00:06

I know, what a post! Forgive me guys! I have a 3-4 month old English Mastiff residing in my home. Not mine but a friends. She is a sweetheart but needs someone who can nuture her needs as a puppy and take better care of her! Her intial cost to buy was $600, but willing to let go at $200 to a very caring home. Her name is Diamond and she is a jewell! This includes a cage for potty training! Mastiff's can be rather large dogs, but usually docile in a home environment and great with kids. Check it out! Diamond is smaller and will go under 100 lbs. She is sweet as a button! Let me know of any interest out there befor I go public!

Again, I do know this is not a site to post this, but she is a little ho! My Cocker Spaniel chases her all the time. A chip off of "dad's" block! Thanks guys@

WingmanTodd

Nkykinkyguy

11-24-10, 09:48

Leave it to Wingman to bring flesh trafficking of a hoe to the board LOL! He is even staying within his MO and offering a discount. LOL! We all know WM is all about the discount! Even throwing in some cage bondage and potty fetish play. He must really want to get rid of this hoe LOL! Good luck with the sale. Maybe we need to change your screen name to Slave Trader LOL!

Sorry but I just couldn't resist. You threw up a soft ball, I just had to hit LOL!

KG.

P.S. All kidding aside there are far too many pets starving on the streets due in part to the economy. So if you have spot in your home for a wonderful pet ( Wingman is right this breed is typically great with kids, but they are a very large breed dog) by all means give it a good home.

I know, what a post! Forgive me guys! I have a 3-4 month old English Mastiff residing in my home. Not mine but a friends. She is a sweetheart but needs someone who can nuture her needs as a puppy and take better care of her! Her intial cost to buy was $600, but willing to let go at $200 to a very caring home. Her name is Diamond and she is a jewell! This includes a cage for potty training! Mastiff's can be rather large dogs, but usually docile in a home environment and great with kids. Check it out! Diamond is smaller and will go under 100 lbs. She is sweet as a button! Let me know of any interest out there befor I go public!

Again, I do know this is not a site to post this, but she is a little ho! My Cocker Spaniel chases her all the time. A chip off of "dad's" block! Thanks guys@

WingmanTodd

Cincy

11-24-10, 12:14

If you hit a wall on this these folks do great work in placing Mastiffs: http://www.glmr.org/Home.html

I know, what a post! Forgive me guys! I have a 3-4 month old English Mastiff residing in my home. Not mine but a friends. She is a sweetheart but needs someone who can nuture her needs as a puppy and take better care of her! Her intial cost to buy was $600, but willing to let go at $200 to a very caring home. Her name is Diamond and she is a jewell! This includes a cage for potty training! Mastiff's can be rather large dogs, but usually docile in a home environment and great with kids. Check it out! Diamond is smaller and will go under 100 lbs. She is sweet as a button! Let me know of any interest out there befor I go public!

Again, I do know this is not a site to post this, but she is a little ho! My Cocker Spaniel chases her all the time. A chip off of "dad's" block! Thanks guys@

WingmanTodd

Giani

11-25-10, 08:07

Why, I am not sure, but Cin'ti SW board has hit on hard times. I'll take some of the responsibility for the infrequent posts of late. True, the SW scene has dramatically changed, the LE surveillance become ubiquitous, and many quality SWs are guests of the state, but. I also wonder if the new USASG software plays a role.

But resorting to selling a dog?

I know, what a post! Forgive me guys! I have a 3-4 month old English Mastiff residing in my home. Not mine but a friends. She is a sweetheart but needs someone who can nuture her needs as a puppy and take better care of her! Her intial cost to buy was $600, but willing to let go at $200 to a very caring home. Her name is Diamond and she is a jewell! This includes a cage for potty training! Mastiff's can be rather large dogs, but usually docile in a home environment and great with kids. Check it out! Diamond is smaller and will go under 100 lbs. She is sweet as a button! Let me know of any interest out there befor I go public!

Again, I do know this is not a site to post this, but she is a little ho! My Cocker Spaniel chases her all the time. A chip off of "dad's" block! Thanks guys@

WingmanTodd

Giani

11-25-10, 09:54

TWO PROBLEMS WITH THE BOARD:

In the post I made a little while ago this morning, two examples of problems with the new software:

1) You can't even use the word be*tch to refer to a female dog. Auto replaced the word with "****". Is this REALLY a prohibited word? The term is even acceptable on network children's shows!

2) In less than two hours (7 to short of 9 AM), no editing is permitted to change "*****" to b*tch or otherwise correct typos in the original post.

JACKSON: How has your traffic been affected by the new "improved" software? I know it makes me less inclined to struggle to post with it.

Giani.

Why, I am not sure, but Cin'ti SW board has hit on hard times. I'll take some of the responsibility for the infrequent posts of late. True, the SW scene has dramatically changed, the LE surveillance become ubiquitous, and many quality SWs are guests of the state, but. I also wonder if the new USASG software plays a role.

But resorting to selling a dog?

Mrrdfun

11-25-10, 10:18

Wingman Todd

11-25-10, 12:47

Giani,

I know I took a chance in posting this. Totally irrelevant to what we are here for. But that is why it was under the General Topics thread. I am just trying to help a provider out by finding a caring home to the Mastiff, and save my sanity around the house! And to Cincy, great lead you gave me and very informative. We will use this as last resort.

To all, have a great Thanksgiving! I hope to be stuffing my "drumstick" later this evening for dessert.

WM.

Why, I am not sure, but Cin'ti SW board has hit on hard times. I'll take some of the responsibility for the infrequent posts of late. True, the SW scene has dramatically changed, the LE surveillance become ubiquitous, and many quality SWs are guests of the state, but. I also wonder if the new USASG software plays a role.

But resorting to selling a dog?

Jalex

11-26-10, 11:29

For me personally it has been a matter of finding suitable providers that have safe incall locations for about the same or just a little more $'s.I'm heading in the same direction. I used to be 100% SW, but I'm at about 50/50 right now. The thrill of the hunt just isn't there in the escort scene.

That being said, I've had good and bad experiences in both arenas. It's just about being smart, looking for warning signs, and being willing to break off an encounter when the little one doesn't want to.

Wallie

11-27-10, 03:59

Really? Is it that big of a "struggle" to post now that the software has a word censor?

TWO PROBLEMS WITH THE BOARD:

In the post I made a little while ago this morning, two examples of problems with the new software:

1) You can't even use the word be*tch to refer to a female dog. Auto replaced the word with "*". Is this REALLY a prohibited word? The term is even acceptable on network children's shows!

2) In less than two hours (7 to short of 9 AM) , no editing is permitted to change "*" to be*tch or otherwise correct typos in the original post.

JACKSON: How has your traffic been affected by the new "improved" software? I know it makes me less inclined to struggle to post with it.

Giani.

Giani

11-27-10, 09:27

Waltmore

11-27-10, 10:54

It would appear to me that the number of posts has diminished but my own informal accounting of posts leads me to believe that the number of posts are down further on other Ohio cities than for Cincinnati. I do not live in the actual Cincinnati area and I peruse the other cities on a regular basis. There definitely seem to be significantly fewer postings in those other cities also, even to a greater extent than Cincinnati.

Not clear what Wallie's point is, but can we agree that posts are way down on Cincy boards? (Does Wallie know where Cincy is?)

If the point is that there are many factors which affect the posting activity, who could argue? I can only speak from my person experience, and it is a fact that the new software, for MANY reasons including the autoedit, makes posting less than satisfactory.

Are there other more significant reasons? Perhaps Wallie will let us know. But I notice his posts (VERY rare in Cincy) , have been rare in the past month or so as well.

WordUp

11-28-10, 18:01

You may not fully agree, but the Cincy Forum having a lack of decent informative post is a pretty good thing. If you are not a street person and rely on these post to guide you then this post is more of a nightmare to you. We who know the street know how to find SW's in the hardest of times, and to spot out the diamonds, gems, decents, and regulars of the streets.

We know the off spots to look in, and in lean times where the street SW tend to go to. This we all know over time. Cincy is a very unique place, where the LE has an unusual attraction to busting SW action in Cincy, and giving it Number One Priority, seemingly over more serious crimes. SW action is really down on the list of most serious crime, but it helps increase the Jail numbers & Stats, to get the Fed / State / Local money & taxes to keep the system going.

Remember "YOU" voted in a Sheriff & Prosecutor that is willing to spread millions of dollars to keep SEX out of our lives, streets, and communities. You wanted it now you have it. Not the SEX Bank of Money closed, and people don't see it as important anymore. Notice the Sheriff leaves ole Larry Flynt alone now since he has enough money to put Uncle Simon / CPD on there BUTT's money wise. Plus his has a load of Secret Goods on there Cops, he is willing to unload, in his magazine at any point.

Anyway back to point. Often, LE lets us do there dirty work for them. Not that they don't know, but using this forum helps to target there efforts. It is the something people reading the post do for themselves which is the purpose of the whole site.

I can remember a time when you could be extremely detailed, and direct member to right where they need to be, then LE got wise, and used the info, to pick up and harass the regulars. The regular could not understand how the LE got so much info on their movement, until someone explain the USASG to them and some got pissed, some got in trouble with there Probation Officers, and some got picked up too often. Yea, LE already knows the deal, but we were adding the missing piece they might need.

After my detailed post got a few of my regulars in trouble, and a few got asked about members on this board using the members on screen names, I decided to make a change, and many of the Senior, have made the same change. We are not like LAX where SW action is only big on the main strips but the rest of the city, it is small potatoes. Here it is a big deal everywhere.

If you need info on Cincy, new info is harder to come by, and I would advice anyone looking for action to go someplace else. If you are not a resident or lack a resident guide, then don't even try.

We are a Slow, Laid Back, Out-of-Tune, rather Backwards city, Extremely Conservative, Overly Naive, Kinda Police State city, and lives a little more in the past than in it's future.

Like many small Ohio & Midwest cities we intentionally stay out-of-touch with the rest of the World because we believe we can always quickly catch up, which NEVER Happens.

Still, I live here rather than any place else, because I was and my whole family was from here. So I have learned to cope, and do well enough in this kind of city, that is also almost driven the SW business completely underground, in its own way.

Wingman Todd

12-01-10, 10:17

For those who are members on the indys board, there is a contest for the Provider rookie of the year (can be found under the topics forum). If you have had the chance to see our homespun hottie, go there and give her your vote. She got mine! And while there, check out her smoking hot new pics!

http://www.indys Dot com / forum / viewtopic. Php? F=40&t=164786&p=1217264#p1217264.

WM

Jay Malibu

12-01-10, 11:50

This user posts ads for various providers. The search capability of the new forum sucks. I guess I can forgive some of the newbies foibles with regard to finding information since I can't seem to get a good search result in between the 60 second rule.

Dillsborodave

12-01-10, 12:45

Wingman Todd

12-01-10, 14:06

Wingman Todd

12-01-10, 14:32

Provider Rookie of the Year 2010. Poll closes 1-1-11. Here's the link.

http://www.indys.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=164786&p=1217264#p1217264

That board has about 20 topic forums. Which topic is the contest under?

Jay Malibu

12-01-10, 16:31

Provider Rookie of the Year 2010. Poll closes 1-1-11. Here's the link.

http://www.indys.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=40&t=164786&p=1217264#p1217264There can be only one answer in my view! But then I've not seen everyone in the talent pool. I suppose both WM and WDM have (seen them all) ; I'm sure.

Golfcart

12-01-10, 21:46

Tom Turner a.k.a. "Sady". She has had posts for a few of her friends under the TT banner. Sady has previous reviews here and generally all were good. BTW, that is not a picture of Sady on the Escorts ads forum! Don't know who the hell it is, but the person posting for her should, or better, know better.This is a continuation of posts appearing earlier today on Cincinnati > Escort Classified Ads > Posted by Escorts - No Reviews or Commentary.

So Wingman reports Tom Turner Regular Member and Sady are the same person. Does that mean Tom Turner Regular Member is a provider or that Sady is a hobbyist / monger? Jackson would never permit either side of the isle to masquerade as the other. He must not know this is going on.

I can't think of a good reason why a provider would want to do that, or a hobbyist would either. Honesty as to identity within the hobby is petty basic. I found a post where Sady arguably disclosed the alias Tom Turner Regular Member identity by saying she was writing the post. It was under "his" moniker but I didn't take that to mean Sady was Tom Turner Regular Member. I took that to mean Sady was using his computer while he was logged in.

I am still curious what the URL says on the pic that Sady (Tom Turner Regular Member) posted as being Sady since she is apparently without a proper website, and her pics on E have been questioned by Wingman and others.

We basically have one person in the Cincinnati market of USASG operating like the place was CL. That's worse than CL ever was because when we went to CL knew what to expect and we deserved what we got. We don't deserve that anywhere on USASG.

There's something I'm missing. This can't really be going on.

Even if it is, I wish Sady nothing but the best. Women are women and God love them all.

Wingman Todd

12-02-10, 00:13

I will get this clarified by Sady. She is a provider with exceptional skills! When she was on E-com, those were in fact her true pics. I never questoned those pics, but just what showed up today under the escort post. I know at that time she didn't have her own pc but used someone elses. I can't quite remember the Tom T connection but will put in the call to clear this up, as we do talk.

When things like this pop up, I know we ALL take notice and have a moment to ponder. I will report back.

WM.

This is a continuation of posts appearing earlier today on Cincinnati Escort Classified Ads Posted by Escorts. No Reviews or Commentary.

So Wingman reports Tom Turner Regular Member and Sady are the same person. Does that mean Tom Turner Regular Member is a provider or that Sady is a hobbyist / monger? Jackson would never permit either side of the isle to masquerade as the other. He must not know this is going on.

I can't think of a good reason why a provider would want to do that, or a hobbyist would either. Honesty as to identity within the hobby Is petty basic. I found a post where Sady arguably disclosed the alias Tom Turner Regular Member identity by saying she was writing the post. It was under "his" moniker but I didn't take that to mean Sady was Tom Turner Regular Member. I took that to mean Sady was using his computer while he was logged in.

I am still curious what the URL says on the pic that Sady (Tom Turner Regular Member) Posted as being Sady since she is apparently without a proper website, and her pics on E have been questioned by Wingman and others.

We basically have one person in the Cincinnati market of USASG operating like the place was CL. That's worse than CL ever was because when we went to CL knew what to expect and we deserved what we got. We don't deserve that anywhere on USASG.

There's something I'm missing. This can't really be going on.

Even if it is, I wish Sady nothing but the best. Women are women and God love them all.

Golfcart

12-02-10, 01:36

I know I did.

Sady is in good hands with Wingman on top.

Wallie

12-02-10, 02:01

Not clear what Wallie's point is, but can we agree that posts are way down on Cincy boards? (Does Wallie know where Cincy is?)

If the point is that there are many factors which affect the posting activity, who could argue? I can only speak from my person experience, and it is a fact that the new software, for MANY reasons including the autoedit, makes posting less than satisfactory.

Are there other more significant reasons? Perhaps Wallie will let us know. But I notice his posts (VERY rare in Cincy) , have been rare in the past month or so as well. Giani,

My posts have been down for the past 6-8 months at least due to some general financial issues, which I would suspect is the reason posts are down in many of the threads I follow.

It's not that the girls don't need the money, just some guys have less to spread around than they used to.

Even though my home threads are Indianapolis, I follow a number of threads in the region since some ladies travel several surrounding states, and to just kinda keep up on what's happening in the area. After all, if I didn't follow Cincy, (YES! I do know where it is! LOL) , and took a trip to visit the casino in Rising Sun, then decided on a side excursion to spread my winnings around, I would be forced to RTFF from start to finish to know WTF was happening there.

On the other threads I follow (42 subscriptions total) I haven't seen an overabundance of complaints about the new software for the Forum. Yes, some things have changed, and it certainly looks different, but overall, the Forum functions basically the same as it did before. (IMO)

I just found it kinda funny, and "nit-picky" to complain about the censor that happened to your post.

Jry Wild1

12-02-10, 11:21

My recommendation for searching on USASG:

Go to the top level of the Cincinnati Forum.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?633-Cincinnati

Click the "Search Forum" button / drop down on the top right side of the Forum Index.

Enter your search term.

Select the "Show Posts" checkbox (this is the important part).

Click the "Search" button.

This search will use your keyword and search the Cincinnati Forum and all of its "child forums" or threads. If you select "Show Threads" that will result only in list of the threads that contain your search term. Then you will have to wait 60 seconds and search each individual thread for posts. Waiting 60 more seconds between each forum thread search. If you select "Show Posts" you are presented with a list of posts from all of the threads that contain your search term, thus no additional searches needed.

After you have the list of posts, I recommend opening individual posts in a separate tab so that you don't lose or have to go back to get the list of search results.

Now, admittedly, if you change your mind on your search term or want to run another or separate search, you will still need to wait. But, for most searching, the above method will be pretty effective. Having a good search term can make all the difference too. And, by the time you have checked all of the resulting posts, 60 seconds will probably have expired and you can run another search.

Prof. JR Wild Thang

This user posts ads for various providers. The search capability of the new forum sucks. I guess I can forgive some of the newbies foibles with regard to finding information since I can't seem to get a good search result in between the 60 second rule.

Wingman Todd

12-02-10, 16:16

I had a very nice chat today with Sady. As I thought was correct, Tom Turner is her "handle", and admits it was/is a bit mis-leading and didn't mean it to be. Yes she did post an ad for one of her friends months ago and won't do that again unless it is very clear (aka Stormy and her angels - just as an example that comes to mind) as to who it is, but I recommended against that. She is using a friends computer to post ads as hers has not been replaced, but it is her account and password. Her pics from e-com were lost and she just plugged in a brunette's pic. She does remember me chewing her out about that and a few other issues months ago. Sady promised that she will have new and accurate pics of herself very soon. Finally, I should be giving her a "hands on" mentoring and coaching session sometime this weekend to work the "kinks" out and will happily report my findings!

I do try to stay on top, side, bottom and behind as much as I can! LOL.

The Wingman.

I know I did.

Sady is in good hands with Wingman on top.

Ky Guy 123

12-02-10, 16:44

You forgot 2 positions.. in front (of course), and hanging from a trapeze in the rafters like a Mongolian acrobat. Personally I always enjoy that last one... the lasses neeeeeever seem to forget you in ya leave'em with that particular image.. not sure why. :p
Anywho.. give Sadesters our best.. ;)

Jay

I had a very nice chat today with Sady. As I thought was correct, Tom Turner is her "handle", and admits it was / is a bit mis-leading and didn't mean it to be. Yes she did post an ad for one of her friends months ago and won't do that again unless it is very clear (aka Stormy and her angels. Just as an example that comes to mind) as to who it is, but I recommended against that. She is using a friends computer to post ads as hers has not been replaced, but it is her account and password. Her pics from e-com were lost and she just plugged in a brunette's pic. She does remember me chewing her out about that and a few other issues months ago. Sady promised that she will have new and accurate pics of herself very soon. Finally, I should be giving her a "hands on" mentoring and coaching session sometime this weekend to work the "kinks" out and will happily report my findings!

I do try to stay on top, side, bottom and behind as much as I can! LOL.

The Wingman.

Anexec

12-02-10, 17:22

You forgot 2 positions. In front (of course) , and hanging from a trapeze in the rafters like a Mongolian acrobat. Personally I always enjoy that last one. The lasses never seem to forget you in ya leave'them with that particular image. Not sure why.

Anywho. Give Sadesters our best.

JayJay, I'd pay good money to see wingman hanging from a trapeze like a mongolian acrobat. Can't wait to see the new pictures though.

Anexec

Wingman Todd

12-03-10, 17:06

Guys, Sara asked for me to pass this on to all of you. She is retiring and will be seeing only one person from now on -- me! Okay, in my dreams, but a damn good one!

Seriously, she mentioned to me today that for the past several months, she has not been able to access her pm's from this site. She has asked Jackon several times about this, but the issue has yet to be resolved. Sara wants everyone who may have pm'd her to know that this is the reason for no replies to your mail. She directs you to contact her at: sara_tonguetwister@yahoo.com

Wingman

Cincyguy

12-03-10, 18:23

I am not sure if this is the right place to post, but I am looking for a way to get in touch with one provider in particular. She used to post on CL. I visited her a long while ago. Like 2 years ago, so I'm not even sure if she is still in the business. She was super sweet and sexy, though. I appreciate any assistance.

Here are a couple of pics of her.

Silverfly

12-04-10, 00:14

Ky Guy 123

12-04-10, 17:47

Hola...

This isn't hobby related, but, it has incredibly hot lasses in bikinis involved, so I figure that you might not mind TOO much. LOL A friend and former model of mine from days gone by is trying to win the Boating Magazine calendar covergirl spot. It's really ONLY between her and another lass, but, they're within 20 votes of each other. She asked me if I could help spread the word some more, so, I figured hot women+1 button click to vote=a win-win for everyone? You can vote once per machine per day if ya want, and I'm sure that she'd appreciate anyone's assistance. Her name is Michele, and she's a total hottie sweetheart from FL. No, she's not anything associated to the biz, and sorry, she IS married, but... she's hot and she does do some incredibly erotic stuff professionally.

http://www.boatingmag.com/boating-magazine-2012-calendar-cover-girl-poll

Thanks in advance for those that vote! And for everyone, enjoy the pics/vids for the contestants. ;)

Jay

Tyson Phenix

12-04-10, 21:52

Too bad she wasn't connected to the hobby or I might have to make a trip to the Sunshine State. She got my vote, and I think your post may of helped as she is not in the lead.

Hola.

This isn't hobby related, but, it has incredibly hot lasses in bikinis involved, so I figure that you might not mind TOO much. LOL A friend and former model of mine from days gone by is trying to win the Boating Magazine calendar covergirl spot. It's really ONLY between her and another lass, but, they're within 20 votes of each other. She asked me if I could help spread the word some more, so, I figured hot women+1 button click to vote=a win-win for everyone? You can vote once per machine per day if ya want, and I'm sure that she'd appreciate anyone's assistance. Her name is Michele, and she's a total hottie sweetheart from FL. No, she's not anything associated to the biz, and sorry, she IS married, but. She's hot and she does do some incredibly erotic stuff professionally.

http://www.boatingmag.com/boating-magazine-2012-calendar-cover-girl-poll

Thanks in advance for those that vote! And for everyone, enjoy the pics / vids for the contestants. .

Jay

Member #4487

12-06-10, 17:51

Guys, Sara asked for me to pass this on to all of you. She is retiring and will be seeing only one person from now on. Me! Okay, in my dreams, but a damn good one!

Seriously, she mentioned to me today that for the past several months, she has not been able to access her pm's from this site. She has asked Jackon several times about this, but the issue has yet to be resolved. Sara wants everyone who may have pm'd her to know that this is the reason for no replies to your mail. She directs you to contact her at: sara_tonguetwister@yahoo.com

WingmanTell her if you talk to her, Tattoo guy says Hi! She is a cool lady to talk to. I wish her the best of luck and a great holiday season!

Hardlikker

12-06-10, 19:15

Getnati

12-06-10, 20:14

I picked up a WSW about 4 weeks ago, an older woman who gave fairly good service for not much $$. I could pretty much tell she needed the money for butter. I cruised a couple times looking for her again but no luck. Last night however I hear a knock on the door and it's her. When I picked her up before it was late at night and I really didn't think she could pick my house out again, they all look the same. Anyways I did a quick date with the woman last nite but now I'm paranoid about her knowing where I live. I'm not worried about her but I'm sure she probably has some male friends who might possibly want to break in if she encouaged them. What's the best way to handle this situation besides telling her to not stop over any more?I would have made sure she saw my gun in the house before anybody gets any bright ideas in the future. I sometimes make up stuff like I have roommates or some shit like that. I've never had one show up unannounced at my house, let alone by themselves without me picking them up. That would worry me too. I suggest a security system and a gun for protection (remember to hide your clips and bullets separately from the gun, just in case it is found). Always look out before answering your door. Should have told her last night to leave and never do that again. You fed a hungry cat and now it will always come back looking for more.

Giani

12-07-10, 08:18

This story bodes poorly. If a monger gives an SW *his* phone, expect her to call at the least opportune time, while in the throes of her most serious drug needs. Awkward at best. Repeated and persistant is worse. (NOTE: Do not let an SW use your cell phone-she, and her 'associates' now have your contact number, and LE may now tag you as an associate of a drug boy.)

Taking an SW to your home is even more problematic. Even an SW that you have developed a long-term relationship may be driven by dogfood (or even butter) needs to do what ever it takes. I do not have an answer for where you now find yourself. Under NO circumstances ever let her back in to you home. Getnati got that right. That cat now knows where to go to get fed.

Mongers need to remember that an SW's drug needs can drive otherwise near-GFE SWs to turn from Jekyll to Hyde and burn your butt. Do not give them more temptation than they can handle. Their hearts may be good, but their dependencies trump all else. A hooker's "heart of gold" may be transient at best.

All newbies: maintain the 'professional' barrier of customer and provider, or else you may become HER provider! What to do now? Obviously, place a block on her calls (this only works from her phone which probably has not more minutes anyway.) Immediately block calls which she may make from other phones. Never answer your door when she appears. However, no threats of violence. These may escalate to acts of violence. Wish I could give better ideas. Good luck.

Giani.

I picked up a WSW about 4 weeks ago, an older woman who gave fairly good service for not much $$. I could pretty much tell she needed the money for butter. I cruised a couple times looking for her again but no luck. Last night however I hear a knock on the door and it's her. When I picked her up before it was late at night and I really didn't think she could pick my house out again, they all look the same. Anyways I did a quick date with the woman last nite but now I'm paranoid about her knowing where I live. I'm not worried about her but I'm sure she probably has some male friends who might possibly want to break in if she encouaged them. What's the best way to handle this situation besides telling her to not stop over any more?

Springfieldguy

12-07-10, 11:30

I picked up a WSW about 4 weeks ago, an older woman who gave fairly good service for not much $$. I could pretty much tell she needed the money for butter. I cruised a couple times looking for her again but no luck. Last night however I hear a knock on the door and it's her. When I picked her up before it was late at night and I really didn't think she could pick my house out again, they all look the same. Anyways I did a quick date with the woman last nite but now I'm paranoid about her knowing where I live. I'm not worried about her but I'm sure she probably has some male friends who might possibly want to break in if she encouaged them. What's the best way to handle this situation besides telling her to not stop over any more?From the 22 Rules for Street Mongering:

16. If you go back to your house. Are you really ok with a potentially-addicted SW knowing where you live?

This story is a good example of why rule 16 applies.

Hardlikker. I wish you luck with this problem.

CletusTheYokel

12-09-10, 16:27

Yes, this story does bode poorly. It may just die out, but let it be a lesson. Here is a thought: if you see her or she shows at our home again, call the police. Don't just threaten, do it. This may well cause embarrassment for you, but it is better than any potential escalation. There are no good options here, so I would consider this seriously. Maybe others have better advice?

Good luck with it,

Crazykev.

This story bodes poorly. If a monger gives an SW *his* phone, expect her to call at the least opportune time, while in the throes of her most serious drug needs. Awkward at best. Repeated and persistant is worse. (NOTE: Do not let an SW use your cell phone-she, and her 'associates' now have your contact number, and LE may now tag you as an associate of a drug boy.)

Taking an SW to your home is even more problematic. Even an SW that you have developed a long-term relationship may be driven by dogfood (or even butter) needs to do what ever it takes. I do not have an answer for where you now find yourself. Under NO circumstances ever let her back in to you home. Getnati got that right. That cat now knows where to go to get fed.

Mongers need to remember that an SW's drug needs can drive otherwise near-GFE SWs to turn from Jekyll to Hyde and burn your butt. Do not give them more temptation than they can handle. Their hearts may be good, but their dependencies trump all else. A hooker's "heart of gold" may be transient at best.

All newbies: maintain the 'professional' barrier of customer and provider, or else you may become HER provider! What to do now? Obviously, place a block on her calls (this only works from her phone which probably has not more minutes anyway.) Immediately block calls which she may make from other phones. Never answer your door when she appears. However, no threats of violence. These may escalate to acts of violence. Wish I could give better ideas. Good luck.

Giani.

CletusTheYokel

12-09-10, 18:01

Slight edit: "our" should have read "your" in my earlier post-I don't actually live with hardlikker!

Yes, this story does bode poorly. It may just die out, but let it be a lesson. Here is a thought: if you see her or she shows at your home again, call the police. Don't just threaten, do it. This may well cause embarrassment for you, but it is better than any potential escalation. There are no good options here, so I would consider this seriously. Maybe others have better advice?

Good luck with it,

Crazykev.

Ky Guy 123

12-10-10, 13:07

One lesson that I was taught long ago that could help in a situation like this is the cold, hard bluff. If this ever happens again with the lass showing up, tell her that she can't come to your home like she's doing, and if she doesn't leave, that you WILL call the cops. If she persists, have a cell or wireless phone handset at the ready (personally, I'd recommend keeping it WITH you constantly for the next few weeks for just this reason), and HAVE THEM WATCH YOU dial 3 numbers, with special care for them to see the last 2 digits being '1'. Instead of the first digit being '9' though, have it be a '4' (411, info), or a '6' (on some cells, phone minutes enquiry), whateeeeeever it would take for it to sound like someone answers the phone after a ring or three. Once they hear the slightest hint of a voice on your phone, I bet all that you'll see on your doorstep is the bottom of their trailing shoed foot as it's skedaddling down your walkway. That way they'll be bluffed to leave and not return, and all you'll be out is a computer hearing you say that you'd like to report a suspicious person loitering outside your home.

Just my suggestion.. take it as ya wish. :)

Jay

I can think of a few good reasons not to get LEO involved in this one unless it really looks like it's getting out of hand.

1) Not sure how helpful they're going to be under the circumstances, or even can be. What are you going to do, call 911 and say "Hey, this streetwalker I brought to my house keeps coming back wanting to do it again." Not sure you can really pull that one off without yourself getting arrested.

2) Seems like the kind of thing that could pique some curiosity in the police reports, leading to brief, funny news reports that include your picture attached to them.

3) For all the time we spend bashing LEO, it seems a little hard to justify asking them to bail us out of our self-made problems when we can't prove we're at real risk of violence yet.

Best advice I can give is be firm and make clear she gets nothing more from you, in hopes she will go away. Might not be a bad idea to get a security system and a very mean dog.

I know it's after the fact, but just another lesson in why never to bring any provider, particularly a SW, to your house. Use a disposable burner phone at all times. Maintain an emotional distance. Just having them in your car is bad enough, since there's a high probability they're carrying drugs or other contraband and many are readily recognizable by passing cops, but keep your valuables, particularly identifying ones, out of view and reach at all times.

Mrrdfun

12-10-10, 13:08

Any thoughts on what the proposed LEO cutbacks would mean to hobbyists? Do you think they will still target the SW's and escorts or actually utilize their resources to catch real criminals? Anyone?

Ky Guy 123

12-10-10, 13:12

It'd mean that whatever the lowest-hanging, headline-grabbingist illegal fruit gets the most attention. Could mean good things for the hobby, if instances like all that Naughty Bodies crap awhile back would stop. Drug busts make headlines, big-crimes make headlines, and prostitution rings/human trafficking busts make headlines. Stick with low-key independents and you should be relatively safe I'd think.

Jay

Any thoughts on what the proposed LEO cutbacks would mean to hobbyists? Do you think they will still target the SW's and escorts or actually utilize their resources to catch real criminals? Anyone?

Wingman Todd

12-12-10, 08:20

Got to share this!

Twas the night before Christmas, and God it was neat.

The kids were both gone, and my wife was in heat.

The doors were all bolted, the phone off the hook,

It was time for some nooky, by hook or by crook.

Momma in her teddy and I in the nude,

Had just hit the bedroom and reached for the lube.

When out on the lawn there arose such a cry,

That I lost my boner, and momma went dry.

Up to the window I sprang like an elf,

Tore back the shade while she played with herself.

The moon on the crest of the snowman we'd built,

Showed a broom up his ass, clean up to the hilt.

When what to my wondering eyes should appear,

But a rusty old sleigh and eight mangey reindeer.

With a fat little driver, half out of the sled,

A sock in his ear and a bra on his head.

Sure as I'm speaking, he was high as a kite,

And he yelled to his team, but it didn't sound right.

Woa Shithead, woa Asshole, woa Stupid, woa Putz,

Either slow down this rig or I'll cut off your nuts.

Look out for the lamp post, and don't hit the tree,

Quit shaking the sleigh, 'cause I got to go pee.

They cleared the old lamp post, the tree got a rub,

Just as Santa leaned out and threw up on my shrub.

And then from the roof we heard such a clatter,

As each little reindeer now emptied his bladder.

I was donning my jockies, to cover my ass,

When down the chimney Santa came with a crash.

His suit was all smelly with perfume galore,

He looked like a bum and he smelled like a working girl.

"That was some brothel," he said with a smile,

"The reindeer are pooped, and I'll just stay awhile"

He walked to the kitchen for himself poured a drink,

Then whipped out his pecker and pissed in the sink.

I started to laugh, my wife smiled with glee,

The old boy was hung nearly down to his knee.

Back in the den, Santa reached in his sack,

But his toys were all gone, and some new things were packed.

The first thing he found was a pair of false tits,

The next was a handgun with a penis that spits.

A box filled with condoms was Santa's next find,

And six pair of panties, the edible kind.

A bra without nipples, a penis extension,

And several more things I shouldn't even mention.

A f*k ring, a G-string, and all types of oil,

And a dildo so long that it lay in a coil.

"This stuff ain't for kids, Mrs. Santa will shit,

So I'll leave 'them here, and then I'll just split."

He filled every stocking and then took his leave,

With one tiny butt plug stuck under his sleeve.

He sprang to his sleigh, but his feet were like lead,

Thus he fell on his ass and broke wind instead.

In time he was seated, took reigns of his hitch,

Saying,"Take me home, Rudolph. This night's been a *****!"

The sleigh was near gone when we heard Santa shout,

"The best thing about pussy is you can't wear it out!"

WM

Rogoh

12-12-10, 09:01

Me thinks WM had too much nog this morning LOL (but of course I have already copied it and email to a few friends.

Got to share this!

Twas the night before Christmas, and God it was neat.

The kids were both gone, and my wife was in heat.

The doors were all bolted, the phone off the hook,

It was time for some nooky, by hook or by crook.

Momma in her teddy and I in the nude,

Had just hit the bedroom and reached for the lube.

When out on the lawn there arose such a cry,

That I lost my boner, and momma went dry.

Up to the window I sprang like an elf,

Tore back the shade while she played with herself.

The moon on the crest of the snowman we'd built,

Showed a broom up his ass, clean up to the hilt.

When what to my wondering eyes should appear,

But a rusty old sleigh and eight mangey reindeer.

With a fat little driver, half out of the sled,

A sock in his ear and a bra on his head.

Sure as I'm speaking, he was high as a kite,

And he yelled to his team, but it didn't sound right.

Woa Shithead, woa Asshole, woa Stupid, woa Putz,

Either slow down this rig or I'll cut off your nuts.

Look out for the lamp post, and don't hit the tree,

Quit shaking the sleigh, 'cause I got to go pee.

They cleared the old lamp post, the tree got a rub,

Just as Santa leaned out and threw up on my shrub.

And then from the roof we heard such a clatter,

As each little reindeer now emptied his bladder.

I was donning my jockies, to cover my ass,

When down the chimney Santa came with a crash.

His suit was all smelly with perfume galore,

He looked like a bum and he smelled like a working girl.

"That was some brothel," he said with a smile,

"The reindeer are pooped, and I'll just stay awhile"

He walked to the kitchen for himself poured a drink,

Then whipped out his pecker and pissed in the sink.

I started to laugh, my wife smiled with glee,

The old boy was hung nearly down to his knee.

Back in the den, Santa reached in his sack,

But his toys were all gone, and some new things were packed.

The first thing he found was a pair of false tits,

The next was a handgun with a penis that spits.

A box filled with condoms was Santa's next find,

And six pair of panties, the edible kind.

A bra without nipples, a penis extension,

And several more things I shouldn't even mention.

A f*k ring, a G-string, and all types of oil,

And a dildo so long that it lay in a coil.

"This stuff ain't for kids, Mrs. Santa will shit,

So I'll leave 'them here, and then I'll just split."

He filled every stocking and then took his leave,

With one tiny butt plug stuck under his sleeve.

He sprang to his sleigh, but his feet were like lead,

Thus he fell on his ass and broke wind instead.

In time he was seated, took reigns of his hitch,

Saying,"Take me home, Rudolph. This night's been a *"

The sleigh was near gone when we heard Santa shout,

"The best thing about pussy is you can't wear it out!"

WM

CletusTheYokel

12-17-10, 16:01

Spend a couple minutes on this if you want. Its a video on how to tell if a SW is a cop. Nothing new for veteran mongers, but given recent discussions on this thread, I though it was well worth posting.

http://www.spike.com/video/hooker-cop/2899817

Stay safe and smart,

Crazykev

Avunus

12-20-10, 13:49

I went to see Sarah who posted on BP. Description and photos are pretty accurate. I had an ok time. Not quite what I had imagined. She seems fairly new at this and is looking for some regulars through the winter.

http://cincinnati.backpage.com/Domination/specaial-rates-this-week-only-foot-fetish-men-that-love-sexy-feet-18/6209907

Audipwr

12-21-10, 18:14

Lady Lashay

12-21-10, 21:46

Anexec

12-24-10, 13:29

To all our lovely providers, our seniors, regular members, newbies, wannabees and you too Jackson. Have a happy holiday.

Anexec

Lady Lashay

12-25-10, 09:08

Well Santa just left said he was disappointed

With the fucking Milk & Cookies.

And would rather had a Blow Job.

Merry Christmas Everyone

Kisses LL

Mr Boombastic

12-27-10, 20:03

This post should be in the Street Action Forum, but since it really gives little info on where to, or how it is more about why.

If you read the post in areas like Philly and the post of CookyJar & Super. You can't help but to be jealous, and I am not talking in a bad way, but a way to say I wish I were there. Well, I do to, but read Cooky Jars post about "K" street and you will see they have the same problems as we do and more. Their area is 10Xs more dangerous than ours is, but everyday people walk its streets 24/7, so it ain't like Philly is a city full of SW's standing on the corners waiting to be picked up.

Cincinnati is just about the sameway. It is a "Hit & Miss" event everyday. Yes Philly has a greater selection, it is a much bigger City. And yes they seem to look much better than the SW we have on the streets here, but the drug problem is greater to thus well you know.

But here is the kicker. There are a lot of SW's here in this City, but they are big time uncover, and they are more conscience of them being discovered by family member who may not know. This is especially true of their parents, and their kids. So they tend to do it on the lowest key possible and still achieve their money or drug goals / needs.

I have found SW's out there that I am hard pressed to ever see again, and if they use fake names, I can forget it. Often when I see or pick them up again it is 3-4 months later, and they have changed their looks, so I don't remember them but they remember me. I change up cars so when they see me they don't always recognize my different car.

Many WSW are on the streets looking to get money for drug money while more BSW are out looking for bill paying money or extra money for weed, but not hard drugs. Now many WSW do the same, as Part-Time trickin, many but there are more BSW who are P / T trickin than regulars. That is the way it is here in this City. We have a fair share of cracked out BSW just look at Chasity & Pocahontas. Two very attractive cracked out hoes, and getting worse.

Most large cities have the same thing, the same problem, in the same ratio. There SW just aren't as afraid of their family members knowing since they are so much bigger and spread out. Our SW action especially WSW action is concentrated in only a few small areas. Even WSW from other areas & county's come to our streets for money. Only in Hamilton is there a real strip / area for SW action.

So don't be to disappointed in the selection, quality, quantity, and more of our area over other cities, because we have better more affordable prices / rates. If you are willing to pay a minimum street rate of 75-125 for FS and you can, and the SW's are not hard to find. Just read the post of LAX, Orange Cty, and more.

I read other forums and want to get mad about not having what they have, but keep reading on over time, and you will understand that we don't have it so bad. We do lack the two "Q's" but we don't have as much danger, rip-offs, robberies, pimps, and stoned out SW's to stoned to do anything. We don't even have as many Skanks. Compared we have far fewer skanks.

With the economy the way it is I am seeing a lot more very decent P / T SW's, and I am finding them in the oddest places. I can be very assertive when I need too, and I have made proposals to women who I never would have excepted to take me up on the offer. And I am talking about them just making an extra 30-40 bucks doing what they had been doing for free. Most are younger women, but a lot of older women and I mean over 30 are accepting a lot of offers. You just have to be assertive, and not worry about being embarrassed. Many will take your number and call you after a few days of thought. They always want 50-75 dollars, but after a little negotiations, settle on 40 buck, and after letting them know you will be back at least 2-3X's a week about 2-3 X's a month, then you can get them down to 30 buck, but you better be able to talk shyt.

Now this is the result of some long PM conversations, and cross-thoughts. So this is not just my thoughts but the thoughts of several forum members and some cross country members.

Just goes to show that "Oz Never did give nothing to the Tin Man, that he didn't already HAVE."

Posted in the Names, Words, & Thoughts of Many.

WordUp

12-28-10, 20:02

Mr. Boom that is one very long report, but I have to agree with it. I have been to so many areas / cities that had SW action that was off the hook, and now after about 2-3 year of intense LE involvement, Casinos coming to town, and the unreligious / self-serving right wing taking over politics, then add for profit jails both public & private, and the street are empty and the jails are full. Accept for the rich criminals, the jails are full.

SW action in other cities is just as hard as it is here, and to find something decent, you will need to ride the strip with a regular resident scene, to direct you and to maximize your time. Every city is like that now. I can remember a time down on Cass street in Detroit, where they had a WSW brothel, in-which it was now uncommon to see cops of all kind pick-up or drop-off SW's right at the front gate. That happened all over Detroit, St. Louis / East St. L. Memphis, Nashville, DC, ATL, and more. Even the small cities had good traffic, and were a best kept secret. The "Q&Q" were not as good a the big city, but the cops didn't care as long as it stayed in 1-2 areas, and created no trouble. Back then even the pimps wanted you to be cool about creating attention to the area. Of course here we have pimps who ride bicycles. You have to laugh at that.

Mr. Boom you have a good point but it may not be as universal as we would all want. It is also a change in priority of any City Administration. If a City feels that SW action is not a priority, and limited to only certain spots which will be the poorest of areas. As long as it is the poor, drug users than no one cares until, rich kids get hooked, and their asses are being sold for drug money. That is the case now, and it mainly that use to be the middle class and the upper middle class. Now they no longer have the money to rehab their kids, and the law is locking them up for profit. Now it is important to have close LE support to completely prevent it, or try to.

I am extremely glad that the SW rate here is this city is what it is. If it got any higher than 30, it would destroy all action both seller and buyer. Of course there would still be both, but there would be a lot less buyers. Still the same amount of seller, but it would cause conflict, because there would be so few buyer. The price would eventually come back down, but it is a balanced system for now. It will always be a buyer market, but very few buys really understand that. Once they do, even the high rates of other cities will go down, and the quality may just have to go up to keep there clientele.

Ending with, we have very limited "Q & Q", so use your Dollars Wisely. Be Thirty!

Member #3995

12-29-10, 17:06

No offense but I hate feet in general! Yuck LOL.

I saw this and had to reply.

My feet are prettier.

LL

Member #4487

12-30-10, 09:30

Hello, fellas, I'm a constant reader, not alot of posts. Usually not alot to say, I study alot LOL! I have noticed alot of new faces on BP. Have the ladies retired? Or just quit?

I do see the forum ladies are still here.

I'm usually to paranoid to pull the trigger on someone new out of fear of walking into a sting or something. I do have a regular I see on occasions.

So I wanted to drop in and see what was going on with everyone. I do work 7 days a week, so it's kinda hard to setup meeting.

If any of you have anyone in mind thats a true GFE on the Eastside of town, and don't mind sharing, I would be more than happy to swap a couple digits with ya.

I normally woudnt ask this because it could sound lazy or selfish, and I do not want to come across that way. I guess my paranoia has gotten the best of me!

I do have references incase anyone has any doubts about me and leo. PM me if anyone is willing.

Cincyfunguy

12-30-10, 09:54

So true, and yet, I don't even understand why anyone would take the risk with SW's. Just opinion, but haven't ever seen anything on the street that I'd even WANT to be with! Maybe its just me.

CFG.

Spend a couple minutes on this if you want. Its a video on how to tell if a SW is a cop. Nothing new for veteran mongers, but given recent discussions on this thread, I though it was well worth posting.

http://www.spike.com/video/hooker-cop/2899817

Stay safe and smart,

Crazykev

Harpo2u

12-30-10, 22:12

So true, and yet, I don't even understand why anyone would take the risk with SW's. Just opinion, but haven't ever seen anything on the street that I'd even WANT to be with! Maybe its just me.

CFG. What have you seen on the streets, Cincyfunguy? With all 13 posts what SW have you seen and / or spoken with since you been on this board since the last 7 months? I think it is you partner.

Risk is actually extremely higher with the scammers on BP and before that on CL. But it you know what your doing a lot less so with SWs. Maybe you didn't know that.

Blatant comments open you to being suspect. Think about it.

Harpo

Giani

12-31-10, 07:40

Surfing the streets, looking for that diamond, is a significant part of the rush of doing the SW street scene. BUT... Be sure to read and completely understand the rules. I have posted 13 several years ago (Jackson subsequently posted his 22):

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2121-Baltimore-Mongering-Basics-for-Newbies&p=683162#post683162

Also, in a response to a Baltimore discussion, I expanded the following rules for car mongering:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2121-Baltimore-Mongering-Basics-for-Newbies&p=700420#post700420

I have seen surfing the streets for SW go from feast to famine and back again. We mongers try to understand it much like the weatherman for what will happen tomorrow, with about the same accuracy.

The catch is that someone looking TOO hot on the street may be bait. But you know that.

I agree 100% with Harpo about BP being riddled with scammers. Frankly, without a direct referral from a respected fellow monger, I would not take the chance, waste my money (a BPer (and formerly a CLer) typically charges 5-10 x what an SW does), and risk that LE is the advertiser.

Giani.

What have you seen on the streets, Cincyfunguy? With all 13 posts what SW have you seen and / or spoken with since you been on this board since the last 7 months? I think it is you partner.

Risk is actually extremely higher with the scammers on BP and before that on CL. But it you know what your doing a lot less so with SWs. Maybe you didn't know that.

Blatant comments open you to being suspect. Think about it.

Harpo

Cincyfunguy

01-01-11, 23:44

Heya Harpo,

Sorry if you took personal offense, as none was intented, towards you or anyone else. I was just expressing my opinion, that mostly I personally do not undestand it. The risks of busts, drugs, disease, etc greatly inccrease with SW's. And I would certainly agree with you about BP and CL, and that's why I personally don't use those resources either.

My personal motto is that I wouldn't stick something into anyone that I wouldn't want to kiss and wake up next to in the morning. But, that's just me.

I might add, that the number of months or posts on this site do not necessarily "qualify" someone's experience, worldly other otherwise. Remember, this is about the only country in the frickin world that needs such as site to keep the hobby honest. In fact, I never had to call it a "hobby" until I moved here LOL. .

So again, no offense intended, it was just my honest opinion.

Take care,

CFG

What have you seen on the streets, Cincyfunguy? With all 13 posts what SW have you seen and / or spoken with since you been on this board since the last 7 months? I think it is you partner.

Risk is actually extremely higher with the scammers on BP and before that on CL. But it you know what your doing a lot less so with SWs. Maybe you didn't know that.

Blatant comments open you to being suspect. Think about it.

Harpo

Cincyfunguy

01-02-11, 10:00

Giani,

All very good rules to "live" by. And having experienced that "rush" before I can certainly understand that aspect completely. I'm just not into the rush anymore, and definitely prefer taking the path of least risk, highest gain, with "quality" being the most important component.

But, anyone who enjoys the SW scene would be well-advised to follow the rules you and Jackson have provided!

CFG

Surfing the streets, looking for that diamond, is a significant part of the rush of doing the SW street scene. BUT. Be sure to read and completely understand the rules. I have posted 13 several years ago (Jackson subsequently posted his 22) :

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2121-Baltimore-Mongering-Basics-for-Newbies&p=683162#post683162

Also, in a response to a Baltimore discussion, I expanded the following rules for car mongering:

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2121-Baltimore-Mongering-Basics-for-Newbies&p=700420#post700420

I have seen surfing the streets for SW go from feast to famine and back again. We mongers try to understand it much like the weatherman for what will happen tomorrow, with about the same accuracy.

The catch is that someone looking TOO hot on the street may be bait. But you know that.

I agree 100% with Harpo about BP being riddled with scammers. Frankly, without a direct referral from a respected fellow monger, I would not take the chance, waste my money (a BPer (and formerly a CLer) typically charges 5-10 x what an SW does) , and risk that LE is the advertiser.

Giani.

Harpo2u

01-02-11, 22:54

Cincyfunguy,

I really wasn't taking it personally and was pointing out how you were basically talking without thinking first. The SW you were talking about is a very nice girl. You would know that if you had spoken to her. Like her a lot of the girls really dress down when on the streets. I'm sure you understand why that is.

There are a few other questions I have for you from what you wrote. Don't take this in the negative but just would like to clear up a few things.

Heya Harpo,

Sorry if you took personal offense, as none was intented, towards you or anyone else. I was just expressing my opinion, that mostly I personally do not undestand it. The risks of busts, drugs, disease, etc greatly inccrease with SW's. And I would certainly agree with you about BP and CL, and that's why I personally don't use those resources either.I you don't go for SWs and the girls on BP and CL then who do you see? I mean where do you search for a provider for some R & R if you know what I mean? A lot of the girls on BP do have their own personal web sites and have Ads on places like E. Com and other high class sites. Where do you go?

My personal motto is that I wouldn't stick something into anyone that I wouldn't want to kiss and wake up next to in the morning. But, that's just me.Again who or what type of providers do you see? Is it a beauty thing you base your choice in seeing and sticking it to her? I'll admit there are some SWs out there that don't interest me but there are those that are just a good looking as the ones you see on BP and other sites. This you would know if you spend any time on the street search which sounds like you never did.

Also the high class escorts are just as risky as the SWs as far as the drugs, disease, and more so on the Bust. All the SWs I've seen take careful precautions. Going to a Escort's motel is the Highest risk you can take in my opinion. If you know how to spot a street sting you can avoid it easily. I've seen several and it's not hard to know how LEO works. The Escorts at the motel is highly tricky and if you never seen her before it's like a 50/50 chance. Also if it's not a sting it could easily be a trap to rob you.

I might add, that the number of months or posts on this site do not necessarily "qualify" someone's experience, worldly other otherwise. Remember, this is about the only country in the frickin world that needs such as site to keep the hobby honest. In fact, I never had to call it a "hobby" until I moved here LOL. .Well with a low post count and really not what I call information that contributes to the main purpose of this site and that's finding girls who want to have sex. Again don't take this the wrong way. You say it's an honest opinion but it really comes across as an insult toward the girl. Who you don't know.

Tell you what, Cincyfunguy, write some in depth post about who you saw and a review of her. Tell if she worth seeing and how was her services. This will help establish you a contributing members instead of opinions of other members posts. There are members here that do the opinions and never really ADD in the board anything worth while.

ISo again, no offense intended, it was just my honest opinion.Give it some thought on what I said or PM me okay. Also where are you from if the word Hobby wasn't used where you were at before Cincinnati.

Harpo.

Cincyfunguy

01-03-11, 06:40

Hi Harpo,

Thanks. I think therre may have been some confusion; I wasn't speaking about any one SW. It was a general comment about the SW scene, that its just not for me.

I'll get back to ya on the rest when I get home tonight.

Have a good one,

CFG

Cincyfunguy,

I really wasn't taking it personally and was pointing out how you were basically talking without thinking first. The SW you were talking about is a very nice girl. You would know that if you had spoken to her. Like her a lot of the girls really dress down when on the streets. I'm sure you understand why that is.

There are a few other questions I have for you from what you wrote. Don't take this in the negative but just would like to clear up a few things.

I you don't go for SWs and the girls on BP and CL then who do you see? I mean where do you search for a provider for some R & R if you know what I mean? A lot of the girls on BP do have their own personal web sites and have Ads on places like E. Com and other high class sites. Where do you go?

Again who or what type of providers do you see? Is it a beauty thing you base your choice in seeing and sticking it to her? I'll admit there are some SWs out there that don't interest me but there are those that are just a good looking as the ones you see on BP and other sites. This you would know if you spend any time on the street search which sounds like you never did.

Also the high class escorts are just as risky as the SWs as far as the drugs, disease, and more so on the Bust. All the SWs I've seen take careful precautions. Going to a Escort's motel is the Highest risk you can take in my opinion. If you know how to spot a street sting you can avoid it easily. I've seen several and it's not hard to know how LEO works. The Escorts at the motel is highly tricky and if you never seen her before it's like a 50/50 chance. Also if it's not a sting it could easily be a trap to rob you.

Well with a low post count and really not what I call information that contributes to the main purpose of this site and that's finding girls who want to have sex. Again don't take this the wrong way. You say it's an honest opinion but it really comes across as an insult toward the girl. Who you don't know.

Tell you what, Cincyfunguy, write some in depth post about who you saw and a review of her. Tell if she worth seeing and how was her services. This will help establish you a contributing members instead of opinions of other members posts. There are members here that do the opinions and never really ADD in the board anything worth while.

Give it some thought on what I said or PM me okay. Also where are you from if the word Hobby wasn't used where you were at before Cincinnati.

Harpo.

Cincyfunguy

01-03-11, 19:47

I generally would never do this, but, as requested.

Cincyfunguy,

I really wasn't taking it personally and was pointing out how you were basically talking without thinking first. The SW you were talking about is a very nice girl. You would know that if you had spoken to her. Like her a lot of the girls really dress down when on the streets. I'm sure you understand why that is.

There are a few other questions I have for you from what you wrote. Don't take this in the negative but just would like to clear up a few things.

I you don't go for SWs and the girls on BP and CL then who do you see? I mean where do you search for a provider for some R & R if you know what I mean? A lot of the girls on BP do have their own personal web sites and have Ads on places like E. Com and other high class sites. Where do you go?

I prefer established ladies who advertise on established sites, who have reviews and links to sites with reviews and vouches, which I am a member of. There are a number of such sites that you probably know of as well, where both the provider and the hobbyist can be verified / vouched. Well worth the cost IMHO to minimize risk for both parties.

If they are on sites such as e. Com and other verifiable sites, then I don't need to weed through the list of fakes on BP and CL.

Again who or what type of providers do you see? Is it a beauty thing you base your choice in seeing and sticking it to her? I'll admit there are some SWs out there that don't interest me but there are those that are just a good looking as the ones you see on BP and other sites. This you would know if you spend any time on the street search which sounds like you never did.

Who? The most respected on this site.

What type? Well, while one might categorize as "high class" I am not into the snooty type LOL. Gorgeous, well established, verifiable and total GFE. Mutual enjoyment is key and if that kind of chemistry is not there, it's simply not worth it.

I'll admit that I have little "direct experience" with SW's, in fact, never having actually been with one, but that is because in all my travels (many, trust me) , and perusing the street scene in many countries, I have never once, repeat never once, seen a SW that I even found myself slightly attracted too (that's just me) , and for me, attraction is an absolute requirement of a great experience. You'd have to know me to know that I am VERY picky LOL, so, no attraction = no action.

Thus far, I have never seen anyone from BP and certainly not CL (this the place people get mugged trying to buy a car LOL!). I do however peruse the sites on occasion and can normally detect a fake from a mile away. FULL of them! As such, it's clearly easy to see, as you previously pointed out, that the fakes far outnumber the legit providers, and the risk of bust and scams are very high as well. I don't need the stress LOL.

In fact, I often find myself asking,"why would a quality, reputable provider advertise on BP or CL INSTEAD of another, well established site?" Conclusion; they are not generally of quality or reputation perhaps? With the exception of course, for a provider that IS already using an established site, listed on sites they can be vouched, reviews etc, and simply using BP or CL support that. There are a few who I have seen do this.

Also the high class escorts are just as risky as the SWs as far as the drugs, disease, and more so on the Bust. All the SWs I've seen take careful precautions. Going to a Escort's motel is the Highest risk you can take in my opinion. If you know how to spot a street sting you can avoid it easily. I've seen several and it's not hard to know how LEO works. The Escorts at the motel is highly tricky and if you never seen her before it's like a 50/50 chance. Also if it's not a sting it could easily be a trap to rob you.

Correct, especially here in the USA, there are always risks, but in my experience, the lowest risk is found with higher class, established ladies who advertise on established, verifiable sites and who list themselves on vouching sites (e. G. Pref411) and others. Of course, this site is also a very good source of qualifying people and I do find it helpful sometimes. Now, as stated, we are in America, the land of the not so free in this regard, so there is always a risk. It's just my opinion based on experience, that the risk is the least on such providers.

In short, while I respect the rights of everyone to pursue their enjoyment as they wish, the SW scene is just not for me. It's a personal preference.

Well with a low post count and really not what I call information that contributes to the main purpose of this site and that's finding girls who want to have sex. Again don't take this the wrong way. You say it's an honest opinion but it really comes across as an insult toward the girl. Who you don't know.

Admittedly I have not been a major contributor over the past year, but that is because I am personally not one to make a public record of adventures and those who know me know that I respect the privacy of a lady and personally think that a quality lady doesn't appreciate details of an experience being listed. UNLESS of course, there is a particular reason to alert others, e. G. Scam, rip off, high risk, or extremely bad experience that the community should certainly be aware of. However, I have on occasion left posts to inform others (see the escort reviews). There are a very select few others which are well known on here so I've never felt the need to add further commentary as they have established good relations and reputations already.

Tell you what, Cincyfunguy, write some in depth post about who you saw and a review of her. Tell if she worth seeing and how was her services. This will help establish you a contributing members instead of opinions of other members posts. There are members here that do the opinions and never really ADD in the board anything worth while.

Again, you will likely never find me going into any great detail, but as stated, if I encounter a bad experience, high risk situation, rip off or scam, or any major problem with anyone I will make sure to report it to ensure that people can be adequately informed. Having said that, if I experience someone who may not be known on here, I am happy to sometimes make sure that it is known that she is legit and at least a general description of service in hopes that such information benefits the community as well as the provider. I think that's really what this site is about.

Give it some thought on what I said or PM me okay. Also where are you from if the word Hobby wasn't used where you were at before Cincinnati.

I'll send you a PM on that one.

Send you that one soon.

Harpo

Cincyfunguy

01-03-11, 20:17

I'd normally never do this, but as requested. Clarification. (all in one text as I couldn't figure out how to responde to each question (give it up to my inexperience with how this site works LOL).

I prefer established ladies who advertise on established sites, who have reviews and links to sites with reviews and vouches, which I am a member of. There are a number of such sites that you probably know of as well, where both the provider and the hobbyist can be verified / vouched. Well worth the cost IMHO to minimize risk for both parties.

If they are on sites such as e. Com and other verifiable sites, then I don't need to weed through the list of fakes on BP and CL.

Who have I seen? The most respected on this site.

What type? Well, while one might categorize as "high class" I am not into the snooty type LOL. Gorgeous, well established, verifiable and total GFE. Mutual enjoyment is key and if that kind of chemistry is not there, it's simply not worth it.

I'll admit that I have little "direct experience" with SW's, in fact, never having actually been with one, but that is because in all my travels (many, trust me) , and perusing the street scene, I have never once, repeat never once, seen a SW that I even found myself slightly attracted too (that's just me) , and for me, attraction is an absolute requirement of a great experience. You'd have to know me to know that I am VERY picky LOL, so, no attraction = no action.

Thus far, I have never seen anyone from BP and certainly not CL (this the place people get mugged trying to buy a car LOL!). I do however peruse the sites on occasion and can normally detect a fake from a mile away. FULL of them! As such, it's clearly easy to see, as you previously pointed out, that the fakes far outnumber the legit providers, and the risk of bust and scams are very high as well. I don't need the stress LOL.

In fact, I often find myself asking,"why would a quality, reputable provider advertise on BP or CL INSTEAD of another, well established site?" Conclusion; they are not generally of quality or reputation perhaps? With the exception of course, for a provider that IS already using an established site, listed on sites they can be vouched, reviews etc, and simply using BP or CL support that. There are a few who I have seen do this.

Correct, especially here in the USA, there are always risks, but in my experience, the lowest risk is found with higher class, established ladies who advertise on established, verifiable sites and who list themselves on vouching sites (e. G. Pref411) and others. Of course, this site is also a very good source of qualifying people and I do find it helpful sometimes. Now, as stated, we are in America, the land of the not so free in this regard, so there is always a risk. It's just my opinion based on experience, that the risk is the least on such providers.

In short, while I respect the rights of everyone to pursue their enjoyment as they wish, the SW scene is just not for me. It's a personal preference.

Admittedly I have not been a major contributor over the past year, but that is because I am personally not one to make a public record of adventures and those who know me know that I respect the privacy of a lady and personally think that a quality lady doesn't appreciate details of an experience being listed. UNLESS of course, there is a particular reason to alert others, e. G. Scam, rip off, high risk, or extremely bad experience that the community should certainly be aware of. However, I have on occasion left posts to inform others (see the escort reviews). There are a very select few others which are well known on here so I've never felt the need to add further commentary as they have established good relations and reputations already.

Again, you will likely never find me going into any great detail, but as stated, if I encounter a bad experience, high risk situation, rip off or scam, or any major problem with anyone I will make sure to report it to ensure that people can be adequately informed. Having said that, if I experience someone who may not be known on here, I am happy to sometimes make sure that it is known that she is legit and at least a general description of service in hopes that such information benefits the community as well as the provider. I think that's really what this site is about.

Best,

CFG.

Cincyfunguy,

I really wasn't taking it personally and was pointing out how you were basically talking without thinking first. The SW you were talking about is a very nice girl. You would know that if you had spoken to her. Like her a lot of the girls really dress down when on the streets. I'm sure you understand why that is.

There are a few other questions I have for you from what you wrote. Don't take this in the negative but just would like to clear up a few things.

I you don't go for SWs and the girls on BP and CL then who do you see? I mean where do you search for a provider for some R & R if you know what I mean? A lot of the girls on BP do have their own personal web sites and have Ads on places like E. Com and other high class sites. Where do you go?

Again who or what type of providers do you see? Is it a beauty thing you base your choice in seeing and sticking it to her? I'll admit there are some SWs out there that don't interest me but there are those that are just a good looking as the ones you see on BP and other sites. This you would know if you spend any time on the street search which sounds like you never did.

Also the high class escorts are just as risky as the SWs as far as the drugs, disease, and more so on the Bust. All the SWs I've seen take careful precautions. Going to a Escort's motel is the Highest risk you can take in my opinion. If you know how to spot a street sting you can avoid it easily. I've seen several and it's not hard to know how LEO works. The Escorts at the motel is highly tricky and if you never seen her before it's like a 50/50 chance. Also if it's not a sting it could easily be a trap to rob you.

Well with a low post count and really not what I call information that contributes to the main purpose of this site and that's finding girls who want to have sex. Again don't take this the wrong way. You say it's an honest opinion but it really comes across as an insult toward the girl. Who you don't know.

Tell you what, Cincyfunguy, write some in depth post about who you saw and a review of her. Tell if she worth seeing and how was her services. This will help establish you a contributing members instead of opinions of other members posts. There are members here that do the opinions and never really ADD in the board anything worth while.

Give it some thought on what I said or PM me okay. Also where are you from if the word Hobby wasn't used where you were at before Cincinnati.

Harpo.

Getnati

01-03-11, 20:44

Awwww snap it's on. The old SW vs Escort battle post. Different strokes for different folks, but opinions are like a*holes and everyone's got one.

Cincy. I think Harpo2U can attest that their are MANY SW's that will blow these escorts out of the water. Most of these chicks in the business all have the same problems anyways. A lot of the escorts have worked the streets before and vice versa. I know plenty of SW's that are drug free as well. (minus a little weed). If you're more comfortable paying more for a totally false sense of security, to all their own. Sure the 24/7 SW's you see in OTR might not be the most "well groomed", but that doesn't include the diamonds that have been found. Unfortunately I can't show you any pictures or give you their info since you aren't an informative contributing senior member.

Cincyfunguy

01-03-11, 21:08

It's a real shame that one can't post a simple comment without it being challenged as if "senior members" are "the stuff."

What's been said has been said, questions asked, validity challenged, answers provided. Sorry that my simple commenthas caused so much disruption and I really don't think we need to continue to crap up this site with this kind of stuff. That is NOT the purpose here, right, Senior members?

Let's get onto the the new year and more productive things.

CFG

Awwww Snap it's on. The old SW vs Escort battle post. Different strokes for different folks, but opinions are like a*holes and everyone's got one.

Cincy. I think Harpo2U can attest that their are MANY SW's that will blow these escorts out of the water. Most of these chicks in the business all have the same problems anyways. A lot of the escorts have worked the streets before and vice versa. I know plenty of SW's that are drug free as well. (minus a little weed). If you're more comfortable paying more for a totally false sense of security, to all their own. Sure the 24/7 SW's you see in OTR might not be the most "well groomed", but that doesn't include the diamonds that have been found. Unfortunately I can't show you any pictures or give you their info since you aren't an informative contributing senior member.

WarlockKy

01-03-11, 21:14

Awwww

Snap it's on. The old SW vs Escort battle post. Different strokes for different folks, but opinions are like a*holes and everyone's got one.

Cincy. I think Harpo2U can attest that their are MANY SW's that will blow these escorts out of the water. Most of these chicks in the business all have the same problems anyways. A lot of the escorts have worked the streets before and vice versa. I know plenty of SW's that are drug free as well. (minus a little weed). If you're more comfortable paying more for a totally false sense of security, to all their own. Sure the 24/7 SW's you see in OTR might not be the most "well groomed", but that doesn't include the diamonds that have been found. Unfortunately I can't show you any pictures or give you their info since you aren't an informative contributing senior member. Over the years I've come across quite a few ladies that spend a good bit of time walking that also have their"escort" site and more than a few "escorts" that stroll when business is slow or work the hotel / local bars.

Best deal I ever found was down at Bar Louie down at the Levee when I ran into a touring lady that usually books in the $$$$$/hr range. She had a cancellation on an overnight and was looking to make some cash & offered a $$ flat rate for the evening.

That turned into 6 hrs with playing before and after dinner at Brio's, my total bill for the evening worked out to about $$$$.

Steve McQween

01-06-11, 11:10

Everyone here can agree this is a dangerous hobby.

With the amount of ripoffs that happen, and the potential for violence if a situation turns sour, I decided to ask these questions.

1.) Do any of you guys know someone that carries a concealed weapon (knife, gun, flamethrower, etc) in case of a bad situation?

2.) If so, does carrying a weapon increase the penalties for getting caught committing this "crime"?

3.) Have any of you known someone that has had an incident with a weapon involved?

If anyone wants to take this to PM, thats fine too.

Have fun, Be safe.

Funk

Joedirt0211

01-06-11, 16:03

Stimulus

01-06-11, 17:36

While reading about the quest of some of my fellow posters to come up with a list of rules or tips for meeting escorts, I remembered reading this post a few years ago when I first started visiting ladies. I found it quite helpful. While not perfect, it has some good advice for those, like me at the time, who had never seen an escort before.

I thought it might be good to bring it to the top since the subject is timely right now.

In it, Harpo2u is responding to a poster, Sproket, who had been ripped off by an escort.

Sorry to hear about that Sproket. There were several red flags before you gave her the money. Also were you in the motel room when you met her or someplace near waiting? Reason I ask is because this "Layna" chick has been ripping off guys left and right. Lets put her out of business.

Thanks for being open about your experience and I do know how it feels to to ripped off like that. So I want to share and give you my pointers for hooking up with CL girls or any Service Providers you meet on the Net.

I've made connections with lots of Servicer Providers long before we had the internet and CraigsList. This was back in the days of Ads in newspapers and yellow-pages before I had gotten into the Net. I've had many successful hookups but had a few bad ones as well. Here's what I basically do to find a good escort service.

When meeting an "escort girl" from CL or web site or even an Ad from the backpages you call or email her you're interested in her services.

Talking on the phone is best and when you do tell her you are interested and like to know more about her service. Ask questions about massages and see if you can get a conversation going. You can get a feel if you want to meet this person. She can be real friendly and talkative or she might be short and rude. I've found this method did help in my decisions.

Very important: NEVER USE THE WORDS "SEX FOR MONEY" either on the phone or in emails.

The difference between escorts and cops is that an escort will avoid any conversation that the transaction is sex for money. A cop will try to get you to say that you are having sex for money. If the escort is using the words "sex for money" she is either very stupid, or she's a cop. If she is avoiding the words "sex for money" or any other similar agreements then she's probably OK.

You might want to call several escort services or independents to get familiar with what is being offered. Understand, though, that they might not be able to fully describe over the phone or in the emails what they do because they don't want to get busted by the law. In other words, if they say they offer "full female companionship," or a "girl friend experience (GFE)" you're supposed to be sharp enough to figure out that you're going to get laid.

On the phone they won't likely give you a price list of what you get for what money, but you can ask questions like, If I have $200 on me, do you think that would cover everything or do I need to pay extra for tip? This will give you a ballpark idea of what you'll be paying. Make sure that there are no extra charges or what she ask for in her ads are just the cost of showing up. Very important to ask as many questions. If she doesn't like all these questions, tell her "thanks for your time but I don't want to be rip off and I'll find someone else". Be polite and gentlemanly when talking and you'll get better results when asking questions and she'll be better about you. Remember she doesn't want to get busted herself.

One common misconception about being busted is that you don't actually have to have sex for money to get busted. All you have to do is to agree to have sex for money. So either of you can get busted even if no sex or money changes hands. They do need to get it on tape though. So never say those words and she should never say those words.

She needs to know you're not a cop or a violent weirdo or someone who's going to be trouble. She also needs to let you know that she's expecting you to pay up front, but she can't ask you to give her money for sex, because that would be prostitution, and that's not what she does.

If you go to her place or to motel where she's at, there should be no reason she doesn't have a room all set up and ready to meet you. If that's not the case, walk away and don't say anything. Some ladies ask you to call from the car when you are outside, and others are happy to tell you in advance where you are coming. When you get to the door, knock on it. Don't stand around outside and be nervous. DO NOT cause attention. Look as if you belong there.

All legit service providers will want references and they do this in different ways so that you're not a cop or weirdo. You will have to refer to her site to know what she is looking for. This is a good sign that she's not LE herself.

Remember there are plenty of sites to check out the girls to see if she's a good provider or a rip off. Like another site is one of them.

Also you can use this site to check the phone or cell number to see if it's a cop line. You wouldn't believe the stings would use a number listed to some police stations. Here's the site to check numbers:

http://www.anywho.com/qry/wp_rl

Once you are in and both know you're not LE is the money exchange.

When she opens the door, come in. Let her shut the door and then you can greet one another. Most of the ladies I know will lead from this point. Lay the envelope with the money on a table. Allow her to see it but do not make a comment about it. * Do not try to talk about services and what she is going to do for you. Just let the time you are together happen naturally. Again NEVER USE THE WORDS "SEX FOR MONEY". It's a legal thing: You're not really giving her the money for sex.

But. She should not get the money and then need to leave the room to get something. One thing that can happen is that she gets paid. Then says she forgot the condoms in her car. And then drives away. This can happen to you and there's not a lot you can do about it. But you should ask her to leave the money if she needs to go out of the room. This is a bad sign if she does.

However, many women don't buy the best condoms, so if you have a brand you like, buy your own and offer to use your condoms. It will save her from having to use one of hers. It will also avoid an awkward delay if she forgets to bring one and would otherwise have to leave and run to the store to get one. I always keep a tube of KY Jelly when I meet an escort. Lubrication is good. Although the escort is supposed to bring these supplies it's a good idea that you have your own. I've had several escorts show up and forget to bring things so don't count on them having their act together.

Once everything is fine, she will ask you if you want to "get comfortable." This means "are you ready to have sex?" Your job now is to lead her to the bedroom and get naked. To protect herself legally, she will wait until the client is naked before she undresses. Then have a good time. If you had a good time, some guys leave a tip. That is your choice! It is a good way to show her you were happy with her services, and she will most likely remember you with a*SMILE the next time!

NOW about this Layna Rip off chick. Here is her number 513-546-6238.

In the past, some of us guys had a buddy that would watch the motel for us while inside with the provider. Then we would switch and do the same for the other guy. It's a good system and you have to trust each other and it works great.

Long post but I've cut it down as short as I could with the important points. In my opinion, Craigslist girls are a real roll the dice and better to find an independent with some good references. Right now anything under 2. 00 is not GFE and lousy service or worst a rip off scam. Do your research with all the info on the web there's no reason to find a great provider if you want to spend some serious money.

Last, here are Layna's pictures. I hope you guys call and tell her she is busted and post reviews at CL on her. Let all the CL girls know we don't tolerate rip offs and cash & dash.

Harpo2U

Nkykinkyguy

01-06-11, 18:42

Hey Stim,

I feel humbled. You and Harpo have already done 3/4 of the work. This list just needs to be updated a little and numbered. This is why I have always said that Harpo deserves Hall of Fame status and you my friend are the man for remembering it and taking the time to help everyone out and finding it.

Thank you again,

Your Friend,

KG.

While reading about the quest of some of my fellow posters to come up with a list of rules or tips for meeting escorts, I remembered reading this post a few years ago when I first started visiting ladies. I found it quite helpful. While not perfect, it has some good advice for those, like me at the time, who had never seen an escort before.

I thought it might be good to bring it to the top since the subject is timely right now.

In it, Harpo2u is responding to a poster, Sproket, who had been ripped off by an escort.

Jry Wild1

01-06-11, 20:00

Stimulus, Thank you, thank you, thank you. Your diligence in finding this has helped our cause immensely. By the way, since Harpo's post was from 2007, you OBVIOUSLY Read The F*****g Forum. LOL!

Harpo, I echo Nkykinkyguy's nomination for Hall of Fame status. I hope to get to know you better. Thank you. Obviously, this was important three years ago and it should be important now.

Dilsboro Dave, does this help satisfy you as to who will make the rules and their credentials?
Harpo joined USASG in 2005 and has been mongering for at least 30 years from what I've heard.
Nkykinkyguy joined USASG in early 2009 and has been mongering for at least 20 years.
I'm the newbie, I guess. I only joined USASG in May 2010 and I've only been Hobbying in one form or other for the past seven years and diligently escort mongering for a little over two years.
I've also received suggestions from Getnati, Ezenuf, Ky Guy 123, and others. We have the 22 rules created by Jackson and Giani's 13 rules to pull from. I think we have a good cadre of people from various sections of the Board to generate the "rules".

JRW1

While reading about the quest of some of my fellow posters to come up with a list of rules or tips for meeting escorts, I remembered reading this post a few years ago when I first started visiting ladies. I found it quite helpful. While not perfect, it has some good advice for those, like me at the time, who had never seen an escort before.

I thought it might be good to bring it to the top since the subject is timely right now.

In it, Harpo2u is responding to a poster, Sproket, who had been ripped off by an escort.

MassageFreak

01-06-11, 22:56

The amount of research and work jry and stimulus have put into this makes me hold them up higher as top of the line guys. I know for a fact they are legit and real down to earth guys. No one and I mean no one would go to these lengths to help out our fellow hobbyists. Kudos to you guys. For the record, for what you have done, you are in no way a noobie jry.

Stimulus, Thank you, thank you, thank you. Your diligence in finding this has helped our cause immensely. By the way, since Harpo's post was from 2007, you OBVIOUSLY Read The F*g Forum. LOL!

Harpo, I echo Nkykinkyguy's nomination for Hall of Fame status. I hope to get to know you better. Thank you. Obviously, this was important three years ago and it should be important now.

Dilsboro Dave, does this help satisfy you as to who will make the rules and their credentials?

Harpo joined USASG in 2005 and has been mongering for at least 30 years from what I've heard.

Nkykinkyguy joined USASG in early 2009 and has been mongering for at least 20 years.

I'm the newbie, I guess. I only joined USASG in May 2010 and I've only been Hobbying in one form or other for the past seven years and diligently escort mongering for a little over two years.

I've also received suggestions from Getnati, Ezenuf, Ky Guy 123, and others. We have the 22 rules created by Jackson and Giani's 13 rules to pull from. I think we have a good cadre of people from various sections of the Board to generate the "rules".

JRW1

Firehousemack

01-07-11, 03:45

For about five years I have been carrying legally with a concealed handgun license.

I carry one in a steel lock box secured to the center console that I can draw in less than a second, and one in my pocket for if I leave the car.

The law treats you car just like your home, if someone tries to carjack or rob you in your car and you shoot them it is legally presumed that you did so in self defense. It is the prosecution's burden to prove that you did not.

You'd probably be arrested, but probably wouldn't be formally charged if you do everything right. I'm sure you would need a lawer and would have some explaining to do at home, but you would be alive.

I have been stopped with a provider in my car 3 separate times by 3 different police agencies. I show my hands and declare the weapons. Twice the police took the guns during the interview to run the sn#s to make sure they aren't stolen. Sheriff deputy up north did not ask to see my weapons, none asked to see my CHL.

They are required to return them to you at the end of the interview if you are not arrested. Both times they put them in the trunk unloaded.

In each case I I'd'd myself, gave a plausible story and politely declined to answer questions. I was then let go.

I've been cash and dashed, had providers refuse to leave my car and other mischief but I've never pulled because brandishing a firearm is a serious offense. All they have to do is to remember your license number and say gun. They then have you for a felony.

I sure would not carry a knife or other weapon like mace or stungun concealed, there's no license for that stuff.

I would never pull a gun unless I was in danger of death.

I am not a lawyer and would not give legal advice to any body.

These are my experiences and the way I understand the rules.

I am human and can be wrong, please let me know if I am.

Firehouse Mack

Ezenuf

01-08-11, 22:22

Randymann excellent post, you are right to some degree. Maybe I'm just shallow, LOL, but I like pretty girls / women. If I find one I like, hopefully we can work on the skills part!

When I first started in the hobby it was mostly HJ's and BJ's type girls. Most of the fun was trying to get further along with subsequent visits! Kinda like high school dating.

I still look back fondly to those days. Even now I will occasionally dabble in that arena. Just love it when then say,"I usually don't do this!".

When I was younger, a quick BJ or at in the parking lot was perfect! Especially since it was free, but I'm just not that flexible any more.

I'm sure that there are plenty of very good SW's out there, I just don't have the time, energy or skilz (as MR. BOOMASTIC would say) to go that route!

Just my. 02.

Ez

Mrrdfun

01-09-11, 11:25

EZ, the while parking lot / not flexible thing is why I have gotten away from the SW scene for the most part and been working to find the low price escort types. You don't get the bodies or the locations of some escorts but I've found the service to be more than adequate. The great part of this is there are girls out there for all of us and none is superior to another if it is what we are looking for!

Getnati

01-09-11, 14:35

BJ's are like snowflakes, no two are the same. That's the beauty of them! You can't categorize where to find the better ones either. A girl either take pride in the ART or doesn't. If you're really good, you can tell it in their eyes or sniff it out with some quick conversation. It's a particular passion they must possess. Although a lot of times a potentially disappointing chick can turn out to be a sleeper.

Now when it comes to SW's (especially FS), cleanliness and smell is a must for myself. A lot of the all-day / everyday common OTR SW's tend to skimp in that category. That's why you're always looking for the dimes. That's the fun in it. Yeah, you have to have some time on your hands. If you don't, then that can add to the fun also.

The thrill of the hunt is nothing short of an extreme sport. As you drive down the streets passing women as their waving and giving you the eye. Street after street, too skinny. Too fat. Is that a MAN ugh. That one has some sores gross. She's decent. Is she working. She's HOT. Let me circle the block. She's still there. I've got to pull over (heart racing). Hope she comes over. Next thing you know she's at you're passenger window and you're asking her if she needs a ride. After replying yes, she hops in and smells like J-lo perfume and off you go onto the second part of your adventure. Depending on where you go from there, that makes or breaks the entire experience. Go with what makes you comfortable, but exciting and arousing.

Calling an escort is a lot more convenient and quicker, but expensive and riskier (LE-wise). If someone from this board gets arrested in an escort sting, do you think they'll be back on posting about it when their family knows? I'm not so sure about that. A lot of times they are disappointing and extremely expensive trying to find good new ones. They ALL look good in their ads, but most of the time it's all smoke and mirrors. Every single one of those pictures has been professionally photographed and "dolled" up. They pick the best angled pictures to show you, and that's usually after Photoshopping them. Also, why don't you try calling up 10 escorts to come to your house and choosing the best looking one for your taste. Imagine that, I bet that would end brilliantly.

In retrospect of this post, I think a handful of SW dimes is worth more than a few overpriced escorts who are mediocre in the BJ department, at best.

WordUp

01-10-11, 13:25

As brief as I can be, this is an excellent post about "Street vs Escort" action. I have to agree with the the vast part of it. If you want to do street action you can read this and kind of understand why you choose the street over escorts. And if you like escorts and want to do street action this is a read first, along with the 22 rules of the streets.

Hey are there any 22 rules for Escorts to go by. Hummm! Are there any posted like the Street rules. Maybe we need to make some up.

As for BJ's it is about those with Skillz and those that think they have skillz, or no skillz at all.

I have had some real ringers, and they give it with passion & skillz. Some are good at it, but you only get a good BJ if they like you. Other think they have good BJ skillz, but they just have not heard the truth, or have heard it and refuse to believe it. But really they know.

FS is kinda like snowflakes, becoz I want to hit it differently everytime. So thus I do!

So basically make every situation something different, and wild.

BJ's are like snowflakes, no two are the same. That's the beauty of them! You can't categorize where to find the better ones either. A girl either take pride in the ART or doesn't. If you're really good, you can tell it in their eyes or sniff it out with some quick conversation. It's a particular passion they must possess. Although a lot of times a potentially disappointing chick can turn out to be a sleeper.

Now when it comes to SW's (especially FS) , cleanliness and smell is a must for myself. A lot of the all-day / everyday common OTR SW's tend to skimp in that category. That's why you're always looking for the dimes. That's the fun in it. Yeah, you have to have some time on your hands. If you don't, then that can add to the fun also.

The thrill of the hunt is nothing short of an extreme sport. As you drive down the streets passing women as their waving and giving you the eye. Street after street, too skinny. Too fat. Is that a MAN ugh. That one has some sores gross. She's decent. Is she working. She's HOT. Let me circle the block. She's still there. I've got to pull over (heart racing). Hope she comes over. Next thing you know she's at you're passenger window and you're asking her if she needs a ride. After replying yes, she hops in and smells like J-lo perfume and off you go onto the second part of your adventure. Depending on where you go from there, that makes or breaks the entire experience. Go with what makes you comfortable, but exciting and arousing.

Calling an escort is a lot more convenient and quicker, but expensive and riskier (LE-wise). If someone from this board gets arrested in an escort sting, do you think they'll be back on posting about it when their family knows? I'm not so sure about that. A lot of times they are disappointing and extremely expensive trying to find good new ones. They ALL look good in their ads, but most of the time it's all smoke and mirrors. Every single one of those pictures has been professionally photographed and "dolled" up. They pick the best angled pictures to show you, and that's usually after Photoshopping them. Also, why don't you try calling up 10 escorts to come to your house and choosing the best looking one for your taste. Imagine that, I bet that would end brilliantly.

In retrospect of this post, I think a handful of SW dimes is worth more than a few overpriced escorts who are mediocre in the BJ department, at best.

Gbdrums1980

01-10-11, 15:40

Does anybody have any information on Jenna of Ohio? I was thinking about seeing her this week. I live in Indianapolis and can give you alot of info on any girls in this area if your headed this way.

Thanks for any info.

Cincyfunguy

01-10-11, 20:43

Alternatively, imagine walking into a lovely house where you are greeted by a charming hostess who escorts you to a private sitting area, offers you a drink and spends a few minutes with you asking your preferences, and giving you advice on the ladies and options available (menu fully disclosed). You explain what you like and before you know it, a dozen or more of the most beautiful women in the world (yes, right off the magazine covers) , enter one at a time, introducing themselves, expressing their personalities, telling you a bit about themselves, their likes and dislikes, and allowing you to admire their beauty before making your choice. They are all immaculately groomed, clean, fresh and beautiful beyond imagination, and tested monthly for STD's.

Your decision is tough, but you ultimately decide who is most likely a good match and off you go into any one of a number of private rooms which are incredibly clean, finely decorated and include a bathing area, shower and perhaps even a Jacuzzi tub along with all the amenities to freshen up, before and after. 5-star quality all the way.

And all for a very affordable price, and in many cases with a money back guarantee. Not to mention, the ladies who chose to work there are provided with transportation and personal security for their safety, fitness facilities, tanning beds and all the other amenities necessary to take care of themselves and enjoy their work.

The focus is quality, safety and customer service.

Just imagine. A place which is equally great for the ladies as for their gentlemen visitors, safe, clean and discrete.

Sound like a dream? Well, unfortunately in THIS Country it IS! But, what lurks in many countries beyond our borders is a dream come true.

Just sayin. .

CFG.

BJ's are like snowflakes, no two are the same. That's the beauty of them! You can't categorize where to find the better ones either. A girl either take pride in the ART or doesn't. If you're really good, you can tell it in their eyes or sniff it out with some quick conversation. It's a particular passion they must possess. Although a lot of times a potentially disappointing chick can turn out to be a sleeper.

Now when it comes to SW's (especially FS) , cleanliness and smell is a must for myself. A lot of the all-day / everyday common OTR SW's tend to skimp in that category. That's why you're always looking for the dimes. That's the fun in it. Yeah, you have to have some time on your hands. If you don't, then that can add to the fun also.

The thrill of the hunt is nothing short of an extreme sport. As you drive down the streets passing women as their waving and giving you the eye. Street after street, too skinny. Too fat. Is that a MAN ugh. That one has some sores gross. She's decent. Is she working. She's HOT. Let me circle the block. She's still there. I've got to pull over (heart racing). Hope she comes over. Next thing you know she's at you're passenger window and you're asking her if she needs a ride. After replying yes, she hops in and smells like J-lo perfume and off you go onto the second part of your adventure. Depending on where you go from there, that makes or breaks the entire experience. Go with what makes you comfortable, but exciting and arousing.

Calling an escort is a lot more convenient and quicker, but expensive and riskier (LE-wise). If someone from this board gets arrested in an escort sting, do you think they'll be back on posting about it when their family knows? I'm not so sure about that. A lot of times they are disappointing and extremely expensive trying to find good new ones. They ALL look good in their ads, but most of the time it's all smoke and mirrors. Every single one of those pictures has been professionally photographed and "dolled" up. They pick the best angled pictures to show you, and that's usually after Photoshopping them. Also, why don't you try calling up 10 escorts to come to your house and choosing the best looking one for your taste. Imagine that, I bet that would end brilliantly.

In retrospect of this post, I think a handful of SW dimes is worth more than a few overpriced escorts who are mediocre in the BJ department, at best.

CletusTheYokel

01-11-11, 11:34

Some world travelers have experienced such service. It would be a fine thing to decriminalize prostitution, make sure the women who work in the business are doing so freely, and have regular testing and access to health care.

The results? Tax revenue. Good treatment for hard working ladies. Drug rehab, etc. For those who need it. Less street crime. Etc. And it would put the hobby out of sight for those who don't like it. All better things-but imagine the politician who would stick up for it!

Meanwhile, see you in Germany.

Crazykev.

Alternatively, imagine walking into a lovely house where you are greeted by a charming hostess who escorts you to a private sitting area, offers you a drink and spends a few minutes with you asking your preferences, and giving you advice on the ladies and options available (menu fully disclosed). You explain what you like and before you know it, a dozen or more of the most beautiful women in the world (yes, right off the magazine covers) , enter one at a time, introducing themselves, expressing their personalities, telling you a bit about themselves, their likes and dislikes, and allowing you to admire their beauty before making your choice. They are all immaculately groomed, clean, fresh and beautiful beyond imagination, and tested monthly for STD's.

Your decision is tough, but you ultimately decide who is most likely a good match and off you go into any one of a number of private rooms which are incredibly clean, finely decorated and include a bathing area, shower and perhaps even a Jacuzzi tub along with all the amenities to freshen up, before and after. 5-star quality all the way.

And all for a very affordable price, and in many cases with a money back guarantee. Not to mention, the ladies who chose to work there are provided with transportation and personal security for their safety, fitness facilities, tanning beds and all the other amenities necessary to take care of themselves and enjoy their work.

The focus is quality, safety and customer service.

Just imagine. A place which is equally great for the ladies as for their gentlemen visitors, safe, clean and discrete.

Sound like a dream? Well, unfortunately in THIS Country it IS! But, what lurks in many countries beyond our borders is a dream come true.

Just sayin. .

CFG.

Hardlikker

01-11-11, 18:47

I posted a report and it never showed up but I can see it under my profile posts. I'm wondering if Jackson is ghosting reports like CL does? Does he still have contact info on the website, I couldn't find it.

Babelover77

01-12-11, 00:19

Guys, in regards to the same topic, I. E, the liberal nature and acceptance of this hobby elsewhere in the world, can the world travelers list some resources (start with PMs) that we all at some point may find useful? I, for one, having visited some of these "hobby-friendly" countries myself can give out some information about places I've been. I would like to start this via PMs first and then if there is enough interest, we may open it up to everyone interested. The dream that CFG talked about is reality in most of these other developed countries. CrazyKev seems to knows more about Germany. LOL. Let me know if this makes any sense at all (PM or reply here).

Later,

T. J.

TheDaytimer

01-12-11, 08:12

Try the "sister site" Internationalsexguide. Info / forum.

Guys, in regards to the same topic, I. E, the liberal nature and acceptance of this hobby elsewhere in the world, can the world travelers list some resources (start with PMs) that we all at some point may find useful? I, for one, having visited some of these "hobby-friendly" countries myself can give out some information about places I've been. I would like to start this via PMs first and then if there is enough interest, we may open it up to everyone interested. The dream that CFG talked about is reality in most of these other developed countries. CrazyKev seems to knows more about Germany. LOL. Let me know if this makes any sense at all (PM or reply here).

Later,

T. J.

Cincyfunguy

01-12-11, 18:12

So true Crazykev, so true!

And true again, Germany does just happen to be one of the many wonderlands out there! I visit there as often as possible!

Some world travelers have experienced such service. It would be a fine thing to decriminalize prostitution, make sure the women who work in the business are doing so freely, and have regular testing and access to health care.

The results? Tax revenue. Good treatment for hard working ladies. Drug rehab, etc. For those who need it. Less street crime. Etc. And it would put the hobby out of sight for those who don't like it. All better things-but imagine the politician who would stick up for it!

Meanwhile, see you in Germany.

Crazykev.

Babelover77

01-12-11, 18:19

Duh! Didn't realize such sister site existed. Knew only about argentinaprivate.

Thanks NdayGuy.

Try the "sister site" Internationalsexguide. Info/forum

Cincyfunguy

01-12-11, 18:24

The ISG is definitely a good source. Also, because many of these countries are so liberal, you can just google for sites, brothels etc. And get a wealth of information.

Czech Republic, particularly Prague (Praha locally)

Romania.

Bulgaria.

Germany.

Spain / Ibiza / Majorca.

Poland.

Belgium.

Netherlands.

Just to name a few.

Try the "sister site" Internationalsexguide. Info / forum.

Chuckietoo

01-12-11, 22:37

Stuttgart Germany house of three, Amsterdam red light district man if they could only be so liberal here.

What fond memories

Unfortunately I am usually accompanied on travels these days.

The ISG is definitely a good source. Also, because many of these countries are so liberal, you can just google for sites, brothels etc. And get a wealth of information.

Czech Republic, particularly Prague (Praha locally)

Romania.

Bulgaria.

Germany.

Spain / Ibiza / Majorca.

Poland.

Belgium.

Netherlands.

Just to name a few.

Waltmore

01-13-11, 00:15

[QUOTE=Chuckietoo; 1121074]Stuttgart Germany house of three, Amsterdam red light district man if they could only be so liberal here.

I was not so impressed in Amsterdam or any of the Netherlands for that matter where ladies were concerned. Nor was Paris all that great, I love France but the ladies there smoked way too much and didn't seem all that clean. Now outside of Rome there were some nice ladies in the countryside that walked out to the road, if you saw one you liked you just stopped and went to the house with her. I speak French and a little Spanish so I have no idea of what she said, but she could communicate the amount quite well, LOL.

Chuckietoo

01-13-11, 08:49

When it comes to a money transaction there are no language beerier. Netherlands was more down to business,

Interesting experience window shopping for ladies.

[QUOTE=Chuckietoo; 1121074]Stuttgart Germany house of three, Amsterdam red light district man if they could only be so liberal here.

I was not so impressed in Amsterdam or any of the Netherlands for that matter where ladies were concerned. Nor was Paris all that great, I love France but the ladies there smoked way too much and didn't seem all that clean. Now outside of Rome there were some nice ladies in the countryside that walked out to the road, if you saw one you liked you just stopped and went to the house with her. I speak French and a little Spanish so I have no idea of what she said, but she could communicate the amount quite well, LOL.

MassageFreak

01-13-11, 10:26

I have posted on CL and depending on where I post it just doesn't show up. How can I change it?

I posted a report and it never showed up but I can see it under my profile posts. I'm wondering if Jackson is ghosting reports like CL does? Does he still have contact info on the website, I couldn't find it.

CletusTheYokel

01-13-11, 10:48

I had a very different, very fun experience in Amsterdam. There is great variety, and some true stunners-no matter what your taste! I love Italy, but have not experienced what Waltmore did-next trip, next trip.

[QUOTE=Chuckietoo; 1121074]Stuttgart Germany house of three, Amsterdam red light district man if they could only be so liberal here.

I was not so impressed in Amsterdam or any of the Netherlands for that matter where ladies were concerned. Nor was Paris all that great, I love France but the ladies there smoked way too much and didn't seem all that clean. Now outside of Rome there were some nice ladies in the countryside that walked out to the road, if you saw one you liked you just stopped and went to the house with her. I speak French and a little Spanish so I have no idea of what she said, but she could communicate the amount quite well, LOL.

TheDosi

01-13-11, 11:39

Cincyfunguy

01-13-11, 20:31

I see a number of you have posted good info on the "world outside America," largely focused on Europe. Which is also fantastic. The posts show a variety of experiences and are all true, but this is to be expected.

My original report on this subject focused on the "best of the best" sort of option and not actually Europe, but since most of the discussion has been on Europe, Germany and Netherlands in particular, I will concentrate on that for the moment.

There are of course the area RLD's, which can be nice and depending on where, a little seedy, nonetheless, safer than what we know of as the SW scene here, and with a lot of variety, no matter what your desires, and again, legal. Stuttgart is actually quite a hot spot as an RLD and probably the best of such places in Europe.

As with anywhere, it's always good to know your way around and there are plenty ways to do this and because of the more liberal nature, much easier to do so than here. In fact, there are even erotic tours in Germany which allow you to experience many places under the guide of someone who knows the local scene. See link below as one example.

http://www.fkktour.com/

At the bottom of that link you will also find links to some of Germany's best known FKK Clubs and some private houses.

As Crazykev mentioned Germany, having visited there numerous times I thought I'd provide you a few links as an example of some of the more quality establishments.

http://www.fkk-oase.de/FKK-Oase?Sprache=EN

http://www.fkkacapulco.de/english/1.htm

http://www.traum-paradies.de/

When checking out Germany, and Prague (somewhat in Netherlands and other places) , search for FKK Clubs (also called Sauna Clubs) ; this is yet another wild experience. You pay a flat fee to enter, around 50 Euros / 70 dollars. This gives you full access to the facilities, bar, sauna, showers, patio, lounge area, fitness area etc. Also normally includes drinks (beer and soft drinks) as well as a food buffet, for the entire day. All the while, being surrounded by many lovely ladies, normally naked or nothing more than a towel around their waist. Which normally she doesn't keep on the entire time. Keep in mind, this is a "sauna" environment and you will normally be guided to a changing room with lockers and enter the facility in a robe or towel (slippers provided as well).

These ladies will join you in the lounge area and so on for nice casual and flirty conversation. Should you strike up an interest, you may carry on as you wish or head off to one of the nice private rooms for your time. The rates again, are very reasonable, and the menu is fully disclosed. Very little risk of negative surprises here. You have the opportunity to see the ladies, hang out and chat with them and know all the possibilities before you commit to anything. This works equally well for them.

And, we haven't even begun to talk about other continents! LOL

Waltmore

01-14-11, 00:21

I was in Amsterdam in 05 and thought the scene was totally legit. Granted I did visit with some ladies who were all about the business (money) aspect of the transaction, but after familiarizing myself with the RLD was able to find exactly what I wanted. Wide selection and a unionized price. 50, plus pot is legal and for me nothing like getting blown and then getting blown. Just my. 02Perhaps it would be best to temper my remarks with the fact that my anticipations were not exceeded in the Netherlands and especially not in Paris. The scene is legitimate in Amsterdam, but for me it had an almost industrial feel to the business end. Most of the ladies were attractive but there seemed to be more of a coolness that was not of my liking. When one says "YMMV" it may vary on either side for a sundry of reasons. I can appreciate other opinions, but I can only express my own.

Naam456

01-14-11, 13:14

I posted this on the Massage Parlor forum as well. It's an article from this morning's Enquirer. I wonder if this is the European place I've read about on here.

http://news.cincinnati.com/article/20110113/NEWS010701/101140323/1163/Arrests-made-in-prostitution-case

Naam456

01-14-11, 13:16

Sorry, I put the post about the massage parlor post here. I should have put in in the news reports forum, but someone else already did. My bad.

TheDosi

01-14-11, 16:48

Perhaps it would be best to temper my remarks with the fact that my anticipations were not exceeded in the Netherlands and especially not in Paris. The scene is legitimate in Amsterdam, but for me it had an almost industrial feel to the business end. Most of the ladies were attractive but there seemed to be more of a coolness that was not of my liking. When one says "YMMV" it may vary on either side for a sundry of reasons. I can appreciate other opinions, but I can only express my own.Our individual opinions are what makes this board an excellent resource. On your Paris point I agree 100, the RLD with the exception of Moulin Rouge (which is exceptionally overpriced) is a toilet.

Harpo2u

01-15-11, 01:03

This is an Alert for those of you who use a cell phone cameras and from time to time take a picture of your favorite provider or a maybe a SW out on the streets. You may want to rethink about doing that ever again especially if you post the picture on this site or any site.

Watch the Youtube report about cell phone cameras and privacy issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl4Dr-RvNZo

Think of all the members across USASG posting pictures with their cell phone cameras!

Maybe this should be Rule #23, don't use cell phone pictures to post pictures.

Harpo.

Babelover77

01-15-11, 12:01

Ditto on Paris guys. Its a shame. A great city but a dry one! Its great to know about Rome but for me the main problem there was the language. No one seemed to or wanted to understand English for some reason. Besides, Rome is too touristy and too risky from thieves / scammers and god-forbid mafi-a POV. I will never be 100% comfortable in Rome doing anything anyway. Just my 0. 02.

About other "outside Europe" places, south america comes to mind. Heard great things about Brazil and all but surprisingly Buenos Aires turned out to be a heaven for this. They have these so-called neatly maintained "private apartments", tons of them, where one might go and choose to see who they want to spend time with. One such recommended place on argentinaprivate forum is.

http://www.gysell.com/friends.html

These ladies all work different schedules as they have other full time jobs as well. Its amazing how they are into maintaining themselves and making it all about you when it came to spending time together. You can fill out a fantasy form and the apartment owner, Gysell, will work the schedules and make it happen for you. For perspective, two of these girls can spend an hour for mere 200 Argentine roses (50 US roses). Simple, affordable, hassle-free experience and just great memories. Now, am I wrong to call this place a heaven?

Fortunately, while still being on the same planet, possibilities are limitless elsewhere. LOL. Once you are spoiled in these liberal areas, the scene there is impossibly difficult to match here! Okay I'll stop now.

T. J.

I see a number of you have posted good info on the "world outside America," largely focused on Europe. Which is also fantastic. The posts show a variety of experiences and are all true, but this is to be expected.

My original report on this subject focused on the "best of the best" sort of option and not actually Europe, but since most of the discussion has been on Europe, Germany and Netherlands in particular, I will concentrate on that for the moment.

There are of course the area RLD's, which can be nice and depending on where, a little seedy, nonetheless, safer than what we know of as the SW scene here, and with a lot of variety, no matter what your desires, and again, legal. Stuttgart is actually quite a hot spot as an RLD and probably the best of such places in Europe.

As with anywhere, it's always good to know your way around and there are plenty ways to do this and because of the more liberal nature, much easier to do so than here. In fact, there are even erotic tours in Germany which allow you to experience many places under the guide of someone who knows the local scene. See link below as one example.

http://www.fkktour.com/

At the bottom of that link you will also find links to some of Germany's best known FKK Clubs and some private houses.

As Crazykev mentioned Germany, having visited there numerous times I thought I'd provide you a few links as an example of some of the more quality establishments.

http://www.fkk-oase.de/FKK-Oase?Sprache=EN

http://www.fkkacapulco.de/english/1.htm

http://www.traum-paradies.de/

When checking out Germany, and Prague (somewhat in Netherlands and other places) , search for FKK Clubs (also called Sauna Clubs) ; this is yet another wild experience. You pay a flat fee to enter, around 50 Euros / 70 dollars. This gives you full access to the facilities, bar, sauna, showers, patio, lounge area, fitness area etc. Also normally includes drinks (beer and soft drinks) as well as a food buffet, for the entire day. All the while, being surrounded by many lovely ladies, normally naked or nothing more than a towel around their waist. Which normally she doesn't keep on the entire time. Keep in mind, this is a "sauna" environment and you will normally be guided to a changing room with lockers and enter the facility in a robe or towel (slippers provided as well).

These ladies will join you in the lounge area and so on for nice casual and flirty conversation. Should you strike up an interest, you may carry on as you wish or head off to one of the nice private rooms for your time. The rates again, are very reasonable, and the menu is fully disclosed. Very little risk of negative surprises here. You have the opportunity to see the ladies, hang out and chat with them and know all the possibilities before you commit to anything. This works equally well for them.

And, we haven't even begun to talk about other continents! LOL

Babelover77

01-15-11, 16:02

Good one Harpo. Really good one. Icanstalku. Com shows some instructions on how to disable the feature of geotagging your pictures- in case you still wanted to take pictures and be safe.

T. J.

This is an Alert for those of you who use a cell phone cameras and from time to time take a picture of your favorite provider or a maybe a SW out on the streets. You may want to rethink about doing that ever again especially if you post the picture on this site or any site.

Watch the Youtube report about cell phone cameras and privacy issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl4Dr-RvNZo

Think of all the members across USASG posting pictures with their cell phone cameras!

Maybe this should be Rule #23, don't use cell phone pictures to post pictures.

Harpo.

Chester67

01-15-11, 21:24

I can vouch for South America. I used to travel all over from Mexico to Argentina, the Caribbean and everywhere in between. It's absolutely amazing! The quality of the girls and the price is incredible.

Brazil is by far the best. Stunning, playboy quality women everywhere (even on the streets) for $75. $100. There's a place called Bomboa that's a high class restaurant and escort palace in one!

Shame, but I got a girlfriend and had to delete my pics. Anyone has any questions, PM me and I'll be glad to answer.

Oh, Costa Rica is pretty good too, but prices are about the same as US. Colombia is also nice. Beautiful women.

WordUp

01-16-11, 19:43

I knew this kind of information was on your digital camera, because when you take a picture, there is digital info in each pix, that is stored, that you do not see, but is there. It s how LE can track the owner of a camera / pix sent / posted online. That is why I never sent in the registration cards.

Harpo the info on YouTube is extremely correct. I did not know it had become this easy. Only a few years back I posted something similar, but the techno was not what it is now. It was always there, but on more expressive equipment.

Now that I am updated, and informed, I thank you Harpo, for bringing it back to my / everyone's attention. I am not a Facebook/*/Whatever fan. I just think it is giving out Too Much Personal Information. That is so DUMB, but that is the way things are now.

Avoid taking Pix with your cell phone, and get a cheap digit camera, for posting and saving pix. Don't send in the Regis. Card, don't set the date on the camera. Or set it to the wrong time and date.

Big Brother is watching, and we are doing everything possible to help him directly and indirectly.

This is an Alert for those of you who use a cell phone cameras and from time to time take a picture of your favorite provider or a maybe a SW out on the streets. You may want to rethink about doing that ever again especially if you post the picture on this site or any site.

Watch the Youtube report about cell phone cameras and privacy issues.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zl4Dr-RvNZo

Think of all the members across USASG posting pictures with their cell phone cameras!

Maybe this should be Rule #23, don't use cell phone pictures to post pictures.

Harpo.

Jay Malibu

01-18-11, 09:50

The jpeg image format that most phones and cameras use for images has the ability to contain a LOT of information. GPS info, date, time etc. With gps-enabled cell phone pictures (most 3G and above have this feature) , the exact location within about 15 feet, along date and time is stored within the image structure. Cell phones pick the time stamp up from the current cell tower. The only way that may limit the ability of the phone to store the info with the pic is to go into the setup and turn off the cellular service (like going into the airplane mode on an iPhone). Taking a picture when the phone can't get the info should prevent the info being included. You may also want to consider that any gps enabled phone will pinpoint your exact location anytime the phone is on and within reach of a cell tower.

Jry Wild1

01-18-11, 11:47

This has been great information for us all to know about. I consider myself really tech savvy (like Adam Savage in the video). I know about this "feature." It can be really useful. For example, iPhoto on the Mac uses it to plot the location of your pictures on a map for you. You can then filter your pictures to see all of the pictures taken in a particular location. Handy.

However, for those of us who don't want everything shared, this can obviously be a problem. As pointed out in the news video, some people may want to share their location. Other times you may not want to for particular pictures. Jay is right that a lot of information can be stored in the picture's metadata section. And, turning this feature off on your phone may be almost impossible too.

The good news is that if you are aware of this "feature," you can do something about it. Download an EXIF editor to edit the photo's metadata. Look for one that lets you edit the GPS data. Not all EXIF editors let you edit all of the possible fields. Another option is to save the .jpg file as a .png file. This should also strip out the EXIF metadata. Do this before you post your pictures and you should not have to worry about them.

Also, be careful. It's not just phones. Many of the newer digital cameras, video recorders, and even some of the memory cards themselves have GPS tagging built into them. I would expect that it is easier to turn this off on the cameras (not the memory cards), but I would check first. AND, always check the files before you post or send them, just to be sure.

[Update]
On Windows 7 (and probably Vista), right click on the .jpg file, go to "properties," switch to the "details" tab. Scroll down the list to see all of the metadata stored in the photo. Windows XP does not show all of the EXIF metadata (including the GPS info) so don't be fooled. The same is true for older versions of Photoshop. On a Mac, "Get Info" will not show the GPS information, but if you open the photo in Preview and then "Show Inspector" under the Tools menu, you can see all of the metadata, including GPS info if it is there.

Hope that helps everyone who is interested.

Professor JRW1

The jpeg image format that most phones and cameras use for images has the ability to contain a LOT of information. GPS info, date, time etc. With gps-enabled cell phone pictures (most 3G and above have this feature) , the exact location within about 15 feet, along date and time is stored within the image structure. Cell phones pick the time stamp up from the current cell tower. The only way that may limit the ability of the phone to store the info with the pic is to go into the setup and turn off the cellular service (like going into the airplane mode on an iPhone). Taking a picture when the phone can't get the info should prevent the info being included. You may also want to consider that any gps enabled phone will pinpoint your exact location anytime the phone is on and within reach of a cell tower.

Steve McQween

01-18-11, 12:12

There is another method that I sometimes use to clear data from pictures.

Open up the picture (s) in windows, then use the printscreen button to take a snapshot of your screen while they are open. Create a new file in your photo editing software, and then just paste the screen shot in and crop / save. This may create a lower resolution file, but I typically use this method when posting a picture of something on the web where Hi-res isn't always crucial. This method will completely destroy any exif or metadata associated with the original pic.

WordUp

01-19-11, 06:19

It is always amazing and I should not be surprised but I am, of the wealth of knowledge and information our forum members have.

We need a "Misc." Forum to just report any information on anything, of valve, or anything you think people should know. I am not talking about voicing opinions, but posting some hardcore information. Maybe we already do?

Anyway, this is information worthy of a section just like the 22 rules of the street's. Posted section.

Hummm, Not a Bad Idea!

Ky Guy 123

01-19-11, 12:50

Typically the 'catch-all' forum is this one we're in now, the General forum. Safest place to put any oe happenstance in that's not covered by the more specific ones. ;)

Jay

It is always amazing and I should not be surprised but I am, of the wealth of knowledge and information our forum members have.

We need a "Misc." Forum to just report any information on anything, of valve, or anything you think people should know. I am not talking about voicing opinions, but posting some hardcore information. Maybe we already do?

Anyway, this is information worthy of a section just like the 22 rules of the street's. Posted section.

Hummm, Not a Bad Idea!

Sexy Callie

01-20-11, 22:27

I don't know about what you all think about Copy Cating some one else is ad. As for myself it really pisses me off.

Why should some one else get credit for some thing some one else writes. I think its very wrong! The reason I am bringing this up is because some one has done this to me. HOTSQIRT posted an ad on 1/19/2011 With the title "LET ME CARTER TO YOU" I posted an ad on 1/14/2011 With the title

"Highly Addictive & Well Reviewed. Let Me Cater To You!" she the last part of my title and used it. Not only did she do that she also took the ad I thought of and wrote myself and changed a word or two and let a few lines out. As soon as I seen it I knew rite away what she had done. I know its not that big of a deal. It just goes to show some people don't give there all when they go and do shit like that.

Sexy Callie

Member #4272

01-21-11, 05:56

Can I get an amen sister.

I don't know about what you all think about Copy Cating some one else is ad. As for myself it really pisses me off.

Why should some one else get credit for some thing some one else writes. I think its very wrong! The reason I am bringing this up is because some one has done this to me. HOTSQIRT posted an ad on 1/19/2011 With the title "LET ME CARTER TO YOU" I posted an ad on 1/14/2011 With the title

"Highly Addictive & Well Reviewed. Let Me Cater To You!" she the last part of my title and used it. Not only did she do that she also took the ad I thought of and wrote myself and changed a word or two and let a few lines out. As soon as I seen it I knew rite away what she had done. I know its not that big of a deal. It just goes to show some people don't give there all when they go and do shit like that.

Sexy Callie

TheDaytimer

01-21-11, 07:59

You sould be flattered she thought so much of your work LOL I agree with you. Copying someone elses work I'd wrong. You're a cutie and people reading her ads might easily see your pic in their minds. Sounds like time for a good female wresting grudge match! .

I don't know about what you all think about Copy Cating some one else is ad. As for myself it really pisses me off.

Why should some one else get credit for some thing some one else writes. I think its very wrong! The reason I am bringing this up is because some one has done this to me. HOTSQIRT posted an ad on 1/19/2011 With the title "LET ME CARTER TO YOU" I posted an ad on 1/14/2011 With the title

"Highly Addictive & Well Reviewed. Let Me Cater To You!" she the last part of my title and used it. Not only did she do that she also took the ad I thought of and wrote myself and changed a word or two and let a few lines out. As soon as I seen it I knew rite away what she had done. I know its not that big of a deal. It just goes to show some people don't give there all when they go and do shit like that.

Sexy Callie

Rogoh

01-21-11, 10:26

Jay Malibu

01-21-11, 11:44

Callie,

Yes, I agree with you that copying your ad was wrong and should not have been done. You are a well thought of provider and in no way does it hurt your reputation or does it help hers. You are Callie and many of us are so happy that you are and will always think very highly of you.

Roger. Ladies don't get your panties in a wad! LOL. I don't think that guys are influenced by fancy ads. They look for who, when, where and how much. The 'dick' can't read and does not process cute remarks. Heat seeking moisture missiles have only one thing in mind. In fact we could conserve a lot of space and time with ads like this:

Mary. 9AM to 11PM today. In and out North of town. $180hr. $90 / half.

Please see the humor in this post and please do not take this as a rip. I saw this line of posts and was amused. If the ladies decide to black list me for finding humor in this, well I guess that's your prerogative.

Lugnutz

01-21-11, 13:10

You sould be flattered she thought so much of your work LOL I agree with you. Copying someone elses work I'd wrong. You're a cutie and people reading her ads might easily see your pic in their minds. Sounds like time for a good female wresting grudge match! .To be catered to than "Cartered" to. That Cartering thing reminds me of Jimmy Carter, and I in no way want any part of that.

Member #3995

01-21-11, 16:14

They might be able to copy your ad but will never be able to copy you or your outstanding service.

I don't know about what you all think about Copy Cating some one else is ad. As for myself it really pisses me off.

Why should some one else get credit for some thing some one else writes. I think its very wrong! The reason I am bringing this up is because some one has done this to me. HOTSQIRT posted an ad on 1/19/2011 With the title "LET ME CARTER TO YOU" I posted an ad on 1/14/2011 With the title

"Highly Addictive & Well Reviewed. Let Me Cater To You!" she the last part of my title and used it. Not only did she do that she also took the ad I thought of and wrote myself and changed a word or two and let a few lines out. As soon as I seen it I knew rite away what she had done. I know its not that big of a deal. It just goes to show some people don't give there all when they go and do shit like that.

Sexy Callie

Selective69

01-21-11, 16:24

Nkykinkyguy

01-26-11, 20:04

The Guide to Escort Hobbying is now posted to the Rules of Escort Mongering Thread. This version is the compilation of all of the many comments from members, the blue print from Harpo reposted by Stimulus and the information gleaned from other similar list on other sites similar in nature to ours.

We ask that all members review this guide and please post all comments, addition, deletion and change suggestions in the Rants. Raves and Opinions thread. This will keep the Guide thread from getting clogged up and make it easier for new members to access.

I know there has been an abundance of comments already regarding this Guide. Please remember this guide is being posted so that as veteran hobbyist we will be able to point the new member to a document that will help them get started. This will alleviate veteran members from the redundant task of explaining the hobby repeatedly or just telling nubies to RTFF to get them off our backs. I feel it is easier and makes more sense to give them the tools they need rather than tell them to read and good luck. I know that there are many veteran hobbyists here that do go out of their way to help nubies and I feel they should be congratulated. I also feel that this guide will make it easier on all, nubies and veterans alike.

KG

Brick Yard

01-28-11, 18:08

Good afternoon. Returning to the hobby after a lenghly period away. Gateful for recomendations on cell phone Prepaid or non) that require little to no personal info to set up.

Cheers

Orizaba

01-29-11, 07:58

Pick up a Tracfone at Walmart. No personal info required. You will also need a minutes card.

Nkykinkyguy

01-29-11, 17:04

Waltmore

01-29-11, 17:13

Golfcart

01-29-11, 21:36

Meyer Lansky

01-30-11, 13:20

Harpo2u

01-30-11, 19:47

Any board members know the legality of LEO having a website that includes, services, fees and nude photos?

Is it legal or entrapment?

Seems to me offering services for a fee with nude photos isn't any different than a streetwalker showing her tits and telling you $ 40. 00 for a blow job and $ 60. 00 for sex.

Any legal advice would be appreciated.

KG aka DVGood question KG / DV and it's not as complicated as it seems once you know the law.

The first thing you have to know and remember is "can LEO can Lie to you".

Yes. It's a legally accepted. And highly effective. Interrogation technique to lie to you and present false evidence in order to elicit a confession. This is particularly common during interrogations in which officers might tell you that "your friend already gave you up, so you might as well come clean."

The best defense against these manipulative tricks is to avoid saying anything to police without first speaking with an attorney. Use the magic words I'm going to remain silent. I would like to see a lawyer. Repeat, if necessary.

On a related topic, it's commonly believed that undercover police have to reveal their identity when asked. This is false. Police may lie.

In the street Sting operations or at a local motel where you read about here in Cincinnati the undercover female cop posing as a hooker can tell you she is not a cop and not involved with law enforcement when in reality she or he is a cop. Cops have complete immunity to lie to you.

You probably know this but from here can they set up a "escort web site" with pictures and services to readers like in the past on CL and on BP?

Yes they can. Matter of fact I've seen in other states where police has done that very thing. They do this with drug stings all the time.

Entrapment occurs when the government induces a person to commit a crime and then tries to punish the person for committing it. However, if a judge or jury believes that a suspect was predisposed to commit the crime anyway, the suspect may be found guilty even if a government agent suggested the crime and helped the defendant to commit it.

As far as creating a crime to make an arrest? A police officer or federal agent can purchase drugs from a known drug dealer, can buy stolen items, even buy counterfeit money from those that they suspect and know is selling.

All of these stings are performed under the strict guidence of court orders and even federal supervision.

In the cases with escorts, LEO post an ad with Craig's List or in Backpages and with a few photos and some suggested language, the defense of entrapment has been severely compromised when a guy answers the Ad. Also the reverse of this is where a provider has posted her Ad with pictures and services and prices also compromised her defense of entrapment.

In a nutshell, if you are posting Ads or answering Ads under the erotic services in Craig's List that display pictures of yourself and / or desire services you are offering or seeking, it is quite difficult then to claim that the police made you do it, Because the defense of entrapment when its boiled down to common sense From a jury's perspective is that the police engaged in behavior that caused you as a private citizen to commit a criminal act you normally would otherwise not engage in.

Generally, the defense is not available if LEO merely created an opportunity for the commission of the crime by a person already planning or willing to commit it.

Most states require a defendant who raises the defense of entrapment to prove he or she did not have a previous intent to commit the crime. Courts determine whether a defendant had a predisposition to commit a crime by examining the person's behavior prior to the commission of the crime and by inquiring into the person's past criminal record if one exists. Usually, a predisposition is found if a defendant was previously involved in criminal conduct similar to the crime with which he or she is charged.

When LEO supplies an accused with a tool or a means necessary to commit the crime, the defense is not automatically established. Although this factor may be considered as evidence of entrapment, it is not conclusive. The more important determination is whether the official planted the criminal idea in the mind of the accused or whether the idea was already there.

Entrapment is not a constitutionally required defense, and, consequently, not all states are bound to provide it as a defense in their criminal codes. Some states have excluded it as a defense, reasoning that anyone who can be talked into a criminal act cannot be free from guilt.

From all this I have to say, know what your rights are and know the law.

The police expect you to be ignorant of your rights and of the law. So they often get away with doing things to you that are illegal. By knowing what the law is and what your rights are, you can protect yourself from police abuse.

Always exercise extreme caution when speaking to anyone. If they suddenly begin asking questions that involve money or sex. Questions that they already know the answers to. Bells should go off in your head.

I could go on but this should cover the main question. Any thing not clear just ask and maybe me or someone can have the Factual Truth Answer.

Harpo

EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it in the Police Tactics and Legal Issues thread in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. Thanks!

Nkykinkyguy

01-31-11, 10:17

Thank you all for your input. It is greatly appreciated. I think I will make a retraction of the web sites statement in the guide to Escort Hobbying regarding the websites adding to appearence of be legit.

KG

Nkykinkyguy

01-31-11, 10:22

Harpo your list was invaluable to Jry and myself as we began to compile the current version. You do not know how much I appreciate all that you contribute here. You my friend are the best. If Jackson ever creates a Hall of Fame you are my nominee.

I hope our current Guide meets with your approval.

I know it is an extremely large document, but as many seniors have told us it needs to be shorter but they are hard pressed to actually cut anything due to its relevance. So, your suggestions are most welcome.

KG aka DV.

[QUOTE=Harpo2u; 1131338]Good question KG / DV and it's not as complicated as it seems once you know the law.

Upullandpay

01-31-11, 14:54

Thank. S a ton for this and all the advice that has been given.

Jay Malibu

02-01-11, 10:16

So you think we have drama on the Cincinnati board? Check out Dayton. They've some real mud wrestling there. 8)

Ky Guy 123

02-01-11, 10:35

Holy crap, that makes all the drama here, on the Lville board, and probably a few others all combined seem insignificant in comparison.

For those that aren't bothering to read, one of the biggest things that is a take away from the Dayton board fiasco is that HappyTrav and SniperZero have outted themselves as LE that have been using the board and their badge to get wanton masses of free tail. One or both could be lying, but, would anyone want to take the risk? Isn't there a no-LE rule for signing up here? If so, couldn't they be banned for that little insight? Hmmmmm....

Jay

So you think we have drama on the Cincinnati board? Check out Dayton. They've some real mud wrestling there. 8)

Fearless15

02-05-11, 16:14

You want drama, check out Super E in philly. Talk about outing!

I would say at least the Dayton drama is interesting, though it's hard to know how much of it is BS. It's a little hard to believe two actual cops are duking it out in a public forum. The difference in Cincinnati is that it's just not interesting. The other difference is that the other posters there are more likely to post something of value, so the useful info / BS ratio is a lot higher.

Babelover77

03-07-11, 19:53

E. Com getting worse by passing time.

News.

3/7/2011. Reviews.

The review section of the site is under review.

Review section under Review. LOL.

Sweetly Sophie

03-15-11, 00:14

First please accept my advance apologies if I shouldn't or am crossing the line of "advertisement" by posting here and or if this is the wrong area of posting such information. I don't know the rules on this situation, however I am sure there maybe a handful of gents who would like to know the following information.

Just a FYI:

After much consideration and many talks back and forth I would like to annouce I have recently been offered a position with Truly Angels that I can't refuse and just today have accepted. I will be working with them at least a handful of days a month both touring and occasionally working locally. The amount of days will vary month to month, some months just a few others up to two weeks. Etc. They have been more than gracious and offered me the opportunity to stay independent as well.

Truly Angels will provide me a 24/7 assistant irregardless of how often / little I will be working. For various reasons she will have access to all my accounts / number and such, if you want to schedule an appointment independently and keep my rate (their rate will be higher and multiply hours will not be discounted) please ALWAYS contact me via email at milkywhites4u@yahoo.com. JUST SO YOU ARE 100% AWARE SHE HAS NO ACCESS TO THIS ACCOUNT, (ZERO) and our conversations will be between only you and I.

To my regulars / gents I have had the pleasure of accompanying a couple times prior, I will contact you via email and basically say the same thing. Please be aware you may also contact me at my PRIVATE (no giving out please!) PERSONAL HOBBY number. If we haven't had the pleasure of meeting up in the last month contact me and I will give (ONLY gents I have seen 2+ x's) this number.

I look forward to seeing all gents interested in spending time via both routes!

(AGAIN all my accounts! Indy's, escorts, preferred411, date-check, r2k and I will be featured on ero's although.

I have no current account, please please please contact me via MY milky EMAIL! AND THANKS!)

-sorry for the caps. LOL, just want to make sure you are all aware and are informed throughly, therefore there is no confusion if you are seeking to see me and receive information / emails via Truly Angels.

Always,

Sophie. KISSES AND HUGS!

Upullandpay

03-17-11, 09:48

For those of you who don't want to use your cell phone directly to contact these girls here is an option!

(Discover what google voice can do. Just get a google email (gmail) or many gmail accounts. It will give you a phone number for each, route a call via your cell to provider, but all they'll see is the google voice and if they get your voice mail- to control what they hear. Your real VM or a digital one from google. I really think this is something hobbiest should know about. There you have it. Oh and it's FREE. Ok so a good secret, until this post gets buried. And you can text and all that. Just no images can be sent via text.)

This was posted down on Tenn where I am headed this weekend. Looked good enough to share

Cincyjim

03-18-11, 12:49

Except for the fact that google logs and keeps your IP forever.

For those of you who don't want to use your cell phone directly to contact these girls here is an option!

(Discover what google voice can do. Just get a google email (gmail) or many gmail accounts. It will give you a phone number for each, route a call via your cell to provider, but all they'll see is the google voice and if they get your voice mail- to control what they hear. Your real VM or a digital one from google. I really think this is something hobbiest should know about. There you have it. Oh and it's FREE. Ok so a good secret, until this post gets buried. And you can text and all that. Just no images can be sent via text.)

This was posted down on Tenn where I am headed this weekend. Looked good enough to share

JD3972

03-25-11, 19:05

Wingman Todd

03-26-11, 09:06

If you are seriously asking these questions I would suggest that you find another hobby. Geez, can't believe this!

Does anyone know the law? If I go to see a provider and I believe her to be a cop or working with police, can I be arrested just for showing up? Is it legal to have the girl strip? Is it only illegal if the girl touches or if you ask for sex?

Thanks

Upullandpay

03-26-11, 12:09

Does anyone know the law? If I go to see a provider and I believe her to be a cop or working with police, can I be arrested just for showing up? Is it legal to have the girl strip? Is it only illegal if the girl touches or if you ask for sex?

ThanksPlease read below link 4 or 5 times until you know them all.

Do not begin your new hobby until you do for your own safety!

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9753-The-Rules-for-Escort-Mongering

JD3972

03-26-11, 12:33

If ya didn't want to answer my question just ignore it, no need in acting like a child.

If you are seriously asking these questions I would suggest that you find another hobby. Geez, can't believe this!

Golfcart

03-26-11, 12:55

Does anyone know the law? If I go to see a provider and I believe her to be a cop or working with police, can I be arrested just for showing up? Is it legal to have the girl strip? Is it only illegal if the girl touches or if you ask for sex?

ThanksJefferson72, if she is an escort you found on an escort message board you can be arrested and convicted if you make a date with her and show up. Nothing has to P4P inside the room.

That you found her on an escort message board shows you were looking for P4P. Your agreement to meet her P4P is a crime once you take a step in furtherance of that agreement. By showing up you take that step plus you ID yourself as the guy behind the email.

JD3972

03-26-11, 13:01

Thanks, that was really what I was wondering about. I've had a couple of incidents that made me nervous and I decided to just drive away at the last minute.

Jefferson72, if she is an escort you found on an escort message board you can be arrested and convicted if you make a date with her and show up. Nothing has to P4P inside the room.

That you found her on an escort message board shows you were looking for P4P. Your agreement to meet her P4P is a crime once you take a step in furtherance of that agreement. By showing up you take that step plus you I'd yourself as the guy behind the email.

RedHottBabe2

03-26-11, 13:59

Jefferson72, if she is an escort you found on an escort message board you can be arrested and convicted if you make a date with her and show up. Nothing has to P4P inside the room.

That you found her on an escort message board shows you were looking for P4P. Your agreement to meet her P4P is a crime once you take a step in furtherance of that agreement. By showing up you take that step plus you I'd yourself as the guy behind the email.I do believe if you have been with her in a friendly manner it would be null and void if other words if she's done before then your good. If not I would leave it alone

WarlockKy

03-28-11, 22:28

Does anyone know the law? If I go to see a provider and I believe her to be a cop or working with police, can I be arrested just for showing up? Is it legal to have the girl strip? Is it only illegal if the girl touches or if you ask for sex?

ThanksThe charge may not stick as long as you don't mention specific activities in the email or on the phone.

You will have to endure the embarrassment and any other complications like missing work if you need.

To be bailed out.

The laws do vary and usually the guys are only targeted in an escort sting (as opposed to a massage / dance sting)

If LE pops a provider and then uses her phone or email to nail her clients as they show up at her incall. The

Important thing here is that you don't use an easy to trace email addy or your regular phone so that you can at.

Least claim that you knocked on the wrong door.

Outcall stings against clients are not the usual practice since it puts the decoy at risk much the same as a decoy SW.

Doesn't get into a monger's car.

Cases against providers are easier to make since it can be shown that they're been running ads, etc which is.

The reason why the ladies obscure their faces (and any tats since those can also be used for I'd) and use burn.

Phones that they can get rid of easily.

Nkykinkyguy

04-07-11, 16:26

Upull,

It was very nice to see someone actually offering direction and assistance to a newer member, rather than ignoring or berating them. Job well done.

KG.

Please read below link 4 or 5 times until you know them all.

Do not begin your new hobby until you do for your own safety!

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?9753-The-Rules-for-Escort-Mongering

Nkykinkyguy

04-07-11, 16:32

Jefferson,

They are correct, know the rules before diving into the hobby. As a long time hobbyist I can tell you that you have a wealth of information here. Read it all, ask questions, ignore those that don't want to assist. Then and only then go have a lot of fun LOL!

KG.

Does anyone know the law? If I go to see a provider and I believe her to be a cop or working with police, can I be arrested just for showing up? Is it legal to have the girl strip? Is it only illegal if the girl touches or if you ask for sex?

Thanks

The Chef1

04-10-11, 12:48

What ever happened to that sexy Spanish girl Nikki Six?

I have a thing for sexy well built Spanish women that are well taken care of and fresh.

Any help?

Chef

Waltmore

04-10-11, 18:40

What ever happened to that sexy Spanish girl Nikki Six?

I have a thing for sexy well built Spanish women that are well taken care of and fresh.

Any help?

ChefThe last contact I had with her has been six months ago. Her mother had become gravely ill and she was distraught about her mother's failing health. It did not help that many men made light of the videos that she appeared in either. As always.

Upullandpay

04-26-11, 14:03

I was down in Greensboro NC and for a small city there is a lot of activity on backpage. I got a motel room right off of I-40. Much to my initial delight I saw several different girls going in and out of there rooms when I got settled in my room. Had a real good view of the parking lot and a lot of the rooms. Started looking on BP and was screening phone #s when I noticed a cop driving around in an old Jeep in the parking lot. Keep an eye on him for almost 3 hours. He talked to some of the girls that had rooms there. Got out of his car and went in to different rooms. I don't believe this was a sting but I was not brave enough to find out. Never saw anyone getting arrested or even hassled. I believe he may have been there pimp or maybe protection. Ended up going to a MP. Do cops regularly do this kind of thing?

Cincyjim

04-27-11, 00:24

My rule is,"if things seem odd, don't proceed, move on to something different."

I was down in Greensboro NC and for a small city there is a lot of activity on backpage. I got a motel room right off of I-40. Much to my initial delight I saw several different girls going in and out of there rooms when I got settled in my room. Had a real good view of the parking lot and a lot of the rooms. Started looking on BP and was screening phone #s when I noticed a cop driving around in an old Jeep in the parking lot. Keep an eye on him for almost 3 hours. He talked to some of the girls that had rooms there. Got out of his car and went in to different rooms. I don't believe this was a sting but I was not brave enough to find out. Never saw anyone getting arrested or even hassled. I believe he may have been there pimp or maybe protection. Ended up going to a MP. Do cops regularly do this kind of thing?

Rueben69

04-27-11, 08:53

For all of you into kinky stuff. Anyone partake in this?

http://freepostsite.com/index.php?do=view&postid=127792

www.candy27rare.com

Not for me. But there is something out there for everyone. LOL.

Golfcart

04-27-11, 13:01

(edit delete) I got a motel room right off of I-40. Much to my initial delight I saw several different girls going in and out of there rooms when I got settled in my room. Had a real good view of the parking lot and a lot of the rooms. Started looking on BP and was screening phone #s when I noticed a cop driving around in an old Jeep in the parking lot. (edit delete)I agree with my friend, Cincyjim, in the post just below this one. Our activities involve a dangerous side. The minute anything happens that is off-script it is imperative we get away before another shoe falls.

About Upullandpay's experience, we don't see too many cops driving old jeeps. He may have been a security guard. Upullandpay was smart to remained clear of that situation.

Ezenuf

04-27-11, 14:19

Thanks for sharing.

Ez

Upullandpay

04-27-11, 15:24

I agree with my friend, Cincyjim, in the post just below this one. Our activities involve a dangerous side. The minute anything happens that is off-script it is imperative we get away before another shoe falls.

About Upullandpay's experience, we don't see too many cops driving old jeeps. He may have been a security guard. Upullandpay was smart to remained clear of that situation.Pretty sure he was a cop! He had a gun, tazer, billy club and badge. Did not get close to see what badge said.

Sir LanceLicksalot

05-06-11, 14:50

I applaud that someone other than Buddah is trying to start a legitimate agency here in the Tri-State, but I don't know about the rest of you, this agency is not going to get my business because of the invasive screening.

As a long time mongerer, I have found that there are numerous ways to verify that someone is safe without requiring all of the detail in the site's registration page. Ask for providers references, ask for the person's handle on boards like another site and TBD. Or see if they are Vouched on Indys.

As a Moderator on Indys. Com, I invite Phoenixhil to join up as an agency / booker.

Good luck and play safe.

Pro From Dover

Cincyfunguy

05-06-11, 16:54

E dot com closing its doors as of 31st May. See posting on their site. It seemed only a matter of time.

Lex Luthor

05-06-11, 17:56

Long time reader, first time poster.

In response to BFDeal I remembered thsi post and it gave me a rolling on the floor moment that I wanted to share.

It is a little disconcerting to me that certain individuals have seen fit to try and hijack this forum. I have found myself being less active here due to this attempted usurpation. This forum is solely the domain of Jackson, I see no reason for certain individuals to attempt to turn the Cincinnati boards into their own little fiefdom. As always this is just my opinion. I do find it refreshing that Wingman and I at least share this perspective.

As always!
This man should be ambassador of the Cincy boards. Don't live in that area anymore, but whenever I get on here to see what's going on, I look for the Wingman's posts. He's well-informed and is usually right-on with his opinions. Keep up the great work, WT!

BF Deal (formerly Uncle Cletus)

Nacnud

05-06-11, 21:59

E dot com closing its doors as of 31st May. See posting on their site. It seemed only a matter of time.Agreed. I was a paying member of E dot com when I first started out but with the state it's been in recently I wouldn't have turned to it as a resource now.

Lugnutz

05-08-11, 10:49

That we have a quote from a newbie slamming someone that has run various agencies over the years quoted in the post of a new agency.

I have no way of knowing what if any relationship other than being competitors exists between secretsins & Buddhaz, but it does make one curious as to why secretsins' verification form / method looks amazingly like the form Buddhaz used with rubclub.

One would think that if they read the forum it would be apparent that there was quite a bit of push back with regard to the level of info required in the verification and that many expressed the opinion that either RS2k, P411 or Date-Check be used. Even if it's not Budah, Buddah, Buddhaz or however you spell it, it sure smells awfully similar to the stuff he comes up with. Either way, I would stay away.

Varoom

05-08-11, 19:16

Well good thing that the charade is over. Your explanations seem to make sense and certainly anyone of us knows that keeping our distance from Leo is job 1.

This also might explain why some phone numbers crossed from one provider to another when they fained knowledge of actually working with one another. Your business model seems to make some sense to me as to why a provider might engage your service. As long as full disclosure is involved it is a good thing, especially now that there is full disclosure with the potential client too. Although it is a shame that you felt that you had to disclose all of this info here but that in part is of your own doings with the double and triple identities and questions arrising from such. That too is understandable, as anonominity is key in this hobby, to most of us. This is a rough crowd and there are too many slueths here to fool all the people all the time, as you know.

Being one who likes to understand the mechanics of the arrangement in advance, and now armed with the above knowledge, I would feel much better engaging with one of your girls. If in fact I even knew she was associated in some way.

Wingman Todd

05-08-11, 21:33

Wow! Another week is past and more drama. Yes, I was involved heavily in this. But we now have answers and frankly, I am good with it all. It's good this all has surfaced as I think we all needed these answers. Thanks to Buddah and to Brian for the disclosers. It answers alot of questions that I and others may have had so let's continue on with what we do best. Let's let the board step back and breath the fresh air. I really have more to do right now with my job, yard work, house work and mongering to be tied up with all of this.

BTW, saw Stacey (Nyky) last night. It only get's better with every encounter. Goodness! Left me as a couch potato most of the day today.

WM

Coloice

05-08-11, 23:09

Hello, fellow Hobbyist, I will be visiting your town soon, any suggestions on what girls to see? I am looking for the following (in order of impartance) outcall, discreet, fun, young? If I had to place a value on importance on those it would be as follows.

Outcall. 40%

Discreet. 40%

Fun. 10 %

Young. 5 %

Good looking 5%

Feel free to PM me!

Marmon1913

05-09-11, 15:56

Saw kim today in Reading early 30's GFE at reasonable prices and Greek is available. 75 for GFE and $. For greek apt wasn't the cleanest and only uses a twin size air mattress great oral skills PM for more information and phone number as always YMMV.

Marmon1913

05-10-11, 17:34

Sarah the prego had her baby on Sunday a little girl. Said every thing is fine. Just thought some of you would like to know. If I'm in the wrong area I'm SORRY JUST deal with it.

Cincyeast52

05-10-11, 18:06

It is hilarious that these two business geniuses keep telling us to "just drop it" but keep coming on the board to make their respective cases.

Our opinions matter not at all but they keep screaming whenever a post refers to them.

Let me just add that a pimp is a pimp is a pimp.

To paraphrase: There is no honor among pimps! LOL

Golfcart

05-10-11, 21:49

Just another hissy-fit over an agency / escort service / booker / whatever. Can't we hurry this along to the usual and customary ending? The sooner we get this over the sooner we can start up again with the next pimp de jure.

And about the off-shore servers that do or do not exist –

I think I'd be more willing to store my personal info with the guy who's at least smart enough to use an actual server that, if he's really smart, is located in a foreign locale, (edit delete)I've never understood the point. The guy running the show is in Cincinnati with the girls and the Johns. Everyone is arrested and put on trial in Cincinnati. Am I to understand the case is more difficult / impossible / whatever to prosecute because the server is in Argentina beyond reach of an Ohio subpoena? I didn't know that. The witnesses are here. Somebody got caught red-handed here. Somebody likely confessed here. Somebody likely flipped against the others here. The guy with the passwords is here. I don't get the location-of-the-serve part.

I also don't get that pimps are low class and we are high class.

Strip Junkie

05-10-11, 23:44

I went to thier website and I don't think that the girls in the tub are from thier Cincy stable. They have some nice ones on there and some not so nice, but I don't think that any of them were in the tub.

Caligulaxxx

05-11-11, 10:47

The ladies of yoursecretsin.

It makes little difference until atleast one senior who is trusted says he went and seen any of the ladies being represented.

It is simple.

Then pheonixhil22 will not need to say anything more to upset cincyeast52.

I for one do not like to register with my info but I have been known to dos o. If it gets me ass like that I have weakness so I might. But not until I hear from someone who is senior telling me he did and he went there and he says it is good food.

Pheonixhil22 has every right to start up a business like this and if he is legit I wish him luck, if he is leo I hope he finds misfortune in his personal life and an accident of some nature befalls him, and he should fuck off and go catch ciminals, not men who like women, I also like oxygen and water, sue me and incarcerate me.

If he is legit. Then pheonixhil22 pm me, I am a great tipper and I travel down that way often. I will pass through and report back to USA.

Cheers one and all.

Leo. Kiss my ass.

Wingman Todd

05-11-11, 20:46

We need to move on here fellows. There has been much discussion about "Secretsins" and Buddah. I for one am okay with all of this since they have both have "come out of the closet". So to speak! (Sorry about the reference!)

It sounds like some of us / you have already seen some of the girls who have an association with Buddah, though we might not know it. Any complaints? As far as Secretsins, I have no idea of the girls in his association, nor do I care. As long as the are providing us / you with good service at a reasonable rate, let these men operate a good business plan they have shared with us.

I'm not sure that I would ever give up the info required for "secretsins" out of my own privacy thinkings, but that is me. But I do think Brian is legit and has an okay plan. I have actually had dealings with Buddah and a few of his ladies in the past (where is my grey pull-over? LOL) , and he is okay. I do not know him personally, but I must say he has been nothing less than truthfull with me and one of my friends. I will be meeting him in the future over some beers! And no, that will remain private between us.

Yes, as most of you know, I am ready and willing to call someone out if it doesn't seem right. And that probably will not change. I have mellowed in the recent months. I have been wrong about many of you. For that I am sorry. Anexec is a perfect example. We our close friends now. So my point here is (what?) , let's all step back and see what the quality reviews will bring to enchance our / your experience.

Just my final thoughts on this. And yes, I guess I started this whole mess, but glad we have a semi-ending! I always seem to be in the middle of this crap, again, sorry! And I now am done with it!

Wingman.

According to TINEYE, the one with the girls on the couch are from.

www.poringa.net

Exact match.

Please explain