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Dawn,
This is well stated.
Roger
Recently I have been trying to become more organized. I have also been doing a little research as to how to be more safe, as if safe is 100% gauranteed. It is not. Safe does not just refer to " How to be safe when you meet a new friend " or " How to protect yourself from some of the crazies, attached ones, or how to know to stay away from LE ". Safe play should always be a #1 priority. My motto is " An hour of fun is not worth a lifetime of misery ". Every one of us, providers as well as clients, should think about this before playing.
I have read online blogs from ex escorts, I know of clients who like to hobby in this and see a variety of lady providers, and I have seen some of the photos of some providers. I have heard rumors of what some of the providers are doing, I know I play differently than some thinking my " safe " ways will protect me from any nasty std's, all of this plays into why this is being posted. I should start a blog really but I will refrain from that as this will be enough.
First and foremost, I do not have to do anything than provide my time and companionship. Anything else that may happen is my choice. I choose to stay safe. I like to play as well as the next but at the same time, I do not want to find out one day that I may have a contagious std, a lifelong std, or a deadly std. Let's face reality: they exsist and are more common than we think. I think some like to put mind over matter. What is not being thought about at that moment will not hurt us when in reality clients cannot be 100% gauaranteed that a provider does not have something as with providers not being certain that a client does not have something. Look up statistics. 3 out of 4 will have hpv. No symptoms have to show. Skin to skin contact is all that is needed to pass along this virus. This virus can turn into different levels of nasty, contagious, life threatneing illnesses.
Look at Aids.. One will not show symptoms for years! How do you know someone does not have herpes just because you do not sores? You don't. That's reality. With all of that being said, one cannot be 100% safe. However, we all can take steps to stay a little safer (if safer is even a word, LOL). Some of us have children. Do we want to pass something to them? Some of us are married. Do we want to pass something to them? Absolutely not! So. How can we play and still stay as safe as possible? I, for one, have a few ideas. These ideas will be my rules when playing. Some may say " forget it " and find someone else, fine. Some will respect it and even find relief in it. Either way, my body is my choice. My life is what I make of it.
I do not play without protection. My #1 rule.
Do not ask me explicit questions, this everyone should know. I will not play unsafe so that should answer any question you may have. Does this mean play will be unenjoyable? No. Just safe. There are edible gels which are great for use.
Some say " I don't like strapping it on ". Well, I don't like std's. If your friend is good, you will still have a great time.
Toy play is always fun but how do I know where that toy has been? Sanitary wipes and disinfectant work great for this. As well as strapping safety on that baby! LOL.
Washing hands. Ahhh, we were taught this in pre school. Most before then by our wonderful parents. Always wash hands before a session. Both providers and cleints. Hand sanitize afterwards. If you do not like the smell of the hand sanitizer, rub some sweet lotion on them palms after applying the sanitizer Too many nasty bacterial fungi can be hidden in nails, no matter how clean ones hands/nails may look.
I even read that one lady sprayed her clients with bleach. LOL. I won't go that far. Please expect and respect that I like to play but I play safe.
We should all think about this.
How could I possibly be put down or disrespected for being safe?
It is as simple as this: If you do not agree, I am certain there are ladies out there that will not think as I do and will see you. This is not to demean anyone for their choices, this is simply a thought for all of us. Some will appreciate it, others may not. Each of us make our own choices, and each of us will live with them.
Be safe, be healthy.
XOXO,
Dawn
Swflaboater
04-10-10, 21:26
I don't know Dawn, and have never had the pleasure of meeting her. But I enjoyed her comments here. I think that one of the things that she might have not said but thought it - respect. Respect for the other person would result in many of the good things that she discusses.
Thanks for your comments Dawn!
SW
Recently I have been trying to become more organized. I have also been doing a little research as to how to be more safe, as if safe is 100% gauranteed. It is not. Safe does not just refer to " How to be safe when you meet a new friend " or " How to protect yourself from some of the crazies, attached ones, or how to know to stay away from LE ". Safe play should always be a #1 priority. My motto is " An hour of fun is not worth a lifetime of misery ". Every one of us, providers as well as clients, should think about this before playing.
I have read online blogs from ex escorts, I know of clients who like to hobby in this and see a variety of lady providers, and I have seen some of the photos of some providers. I have heard rumors of what some of the providers are doing, I know I play differently than some thinking my " safe " ways will protect me from any nasty std's, all of this plays into why this is being posted. I should start a blog really but I will refrain from that as this will be enough.
First and foremost, I do not have to do anything than provide my time and companionship. Anything else that may happen is my choice. I choose to stay safe. I like to play as well as the next but at the same time, I do not want to find out one day that I may have a contagious std, a lifelong std, or a deadly std. Let's face reality: they exsist and are more common than we think. I think some like to put mind over matter. What is not being thought about at that moment will not hurt us when in reality clients cannot be 100% gauaranteed that a provider does not have something as with providers not being certain that a client does not have something. Look up statistics. 3 out of 4 will have hpv. No symptoms have to show. Skin to skin contact is all that is needed to pass along this virus. This virus can turn into different levels of nasty, contagious, life threatneing illnesses.
Look at Aids.. One will not show symptoms for years! How do you know someone does not have herpes just because you do not sores? You don't. That's reality. With all of that being said, one cannot be 100% safe. However, we all can take steps to stay a little safer (if safer is even a word, LOL). Some of us have children. Do we want to pass something to them? Some of us are married. Do we want to pass something to them? Absolutely not! So. How can we play and still stay as safe as possible? I, for one, have a few ideas. These ideas will be my rules when playing. Some may say " forget it " and find someone else, fine. Some will respect it and even find relief in it. Either way, my body is my choice. My life is what I make of it.
I do not play without protection. My #1 rule.
Do not ask me explicit questions, this everyone should know. I will not play unsafe so that should answer any question you may have. Does this mean play will be unenjoyable? No. Just safe. There are edible gels which are great for use.
Some say " I don't like strapping it on ". Well, I don't like std's. If your friend is good, you will still have a great time.
Toy play is always fun but how do I know where that toy has been? Sanitary wipes and disinfectant work great for this. As well as strapping safety on that baby! LOL.
Washing hands. Ahhh, we were taught this in pre school. Most before then by our wonderful parents. Always wash hands before a session. Both providers and cleints. Hand sanitize afterwards. If you do not like the smell of the hand sanitizer, rub some sweet lotion on them palms after applying the sanitizer Too many nasty bacterial fungi can be hidden in nails, no matter how clean ones hands/nails may look.
I even read that one lady sprayed her clients with bleach. LOL. I won't go that far. Please expect and respect that I like to play but I play safe.
We should all think about this.
How could I possibly be put down or disrespected for being safe?
It is as simple as this: If you do not agree, I am certain there are ladies out there that will not think as I do and will see you. This is not to demean anyone for their choices, this is simply a thought for all of us. Some will appreciate it, others may not. Each of us make our own choices, and each of us will live with them.
Be safe, be healthy.
XOXO,
Dawn
If, when we reply to a previous lengthy post, we include the ENTIRE post to which we are replying, the amount of space taken up by the repeat can be substantial. My suggestion is to delete all of the previous post from your reply which does not directly bear on your point (just highlight and hit delete). Obviously, the post to which you respond is still on the board, and does not need to be repeated.
I agree with most of the points Dawn makes, these especially:
1) Cover up for FS (= rule #1... from the beginning)
2) Maintain hygiene
3) Treat service providers with respect and consideration.
BTW, congrats to Cincinnati mongers and friends. We still have one of the more active and interesting boards in the USASG.
Giani
Member #3974
04-11-10, 08:38
You sure make a good arguement, though no one can argue with any of your points. One of the smartest things I have ever read on here. We all get caught up in drama and dumbshit, myself totally included. With all that going on we loose sight of the things we really should be worried about. Everyone should be required to read a post like this, and sit back and debate it. I will always be willing to read and take in your amazingly, thoughtful posts dawn. Post when you like I assure you I will always take them to heart.
Recently I have been trying to become more organized. I have also been doing a little research as to how to be more safe, as if safe is 100% gauranteed. It is not. Safe does not just refer to " How to be safe when you meet a new friend " or " How to protect yourself from some of the crazies, attached ones, or how to know to stay away from LE ". Safe play should always be a #1 priority. My motto is " An hour of fun is not worth a lifetime of misery ". Every one of us, providers as well as clients, should think about this before playing.
I have read online blogs from ex escorts, I know of clients who like to hobby in this and see a variety of lady providers, and I have seen some of the photos of some providers. I have heard rumors of what some of the providers are doing, I know I play differently than some thinking my " safe " ways will protect me from any nasty std's, all of this plays into why this is being posted. I should start a blog really but I will refrain from that as this will be enough.
First and foremost, I do not have to do anything than provide my time and companionship. Anything else that may happen is my choice. I choose to stay safe. I like to play as well as the next but at the same time, I do not want to find out one day that I may have a contagious std, a lifelong std, or a deadly std. Let's face reality: they exsist and are more common than we think. I think some like to put mind over matter. What is not being thought about at that moment will not hurt us when in reality clients cannot be 100% gauaranteed that a provider does not have something as with providers not being certain that a client does not have something. Look up statistics. 3 out of 4 will have hpv. No symptoms have to show. Skin to skin contact is all that is needed to pass along this virus. This virus can turn into different levels of nasty, contagious, life threatneing illnesses.
Look at Aids.. One will not show symptoms for years! How do you know someone does not have herpes just because you do not sores? You don't. That's reality. With all of that being said, one cannot be 100% safe. However, we all can take steps to stay a little safer (if safer is even a word, LOL). Some of us have children. Do we want to pass something to them? Some of us are married. Do we want to pass something to them? Absolutely not! So. How can we play and still stay as safe as possible? I, for one, have a few ideas. These ideas will be my rules when playing. Some may say " forget it " and find someone else, fine. Some will respect it and even find relief in it. Either way, my body is my choice. My life is what I make of it.
I do not play without protection. My #1 rule.
Do not ask me explicit questions, this everyone should know. I will not play unsafe so that should answer any question you may have. Does this mean play will be unenjoyable? No. Just safe. There are edible gels which are great for use.
Some say " I don't like strapping it on ". Well, I don't like std's. If your friend is good, you will still have a great time.
Toy play is always fun but how do I know where that toy has been? Sanitary wipes and disinfectant work great for this. As well as strapping safety on that baby! LOL.
Washing hands. Ahhh, we were taught this in pre school. Most before then by our wonderful parents. Always wash hands before a session. Both providers and cleints. Hand sanitize afterwards. If you do not like the smell of the hand sanitizer, rub some sweet lotion on them palms after applying the sanitizer Too many nasty bacterial fungi can be hidden in nails, no matter how clean ones hands/nails may look.
I even read that one lady sprayed her clients with bleach. LOL. I won't go that far. Please expect and respect that I like to play but I play safe.
We should all think about this.
How could I possibly be put down or disrespected for being safe?
It is as simple as this: If you do not agree, I am certain there are ladies out there that will not think as I do and will see you. This is not to demean anyone for their choices, this is simply a thought for all of us. Some will appreciate it, others may not. Each of us make our own choices, and each of us will live with them.
Be safe, be healthy.
XOXO,
Dawn
Marmon1913
04-11-10, 13:41
My motto never go into battle with out a helmet.I've seen dawn and what a great provider and would hate to lose her.but she's right you can never be too careful when it comes to sex.
Tonguetwister
04-11-10, 22:52
Dawn, if I had a nickel for every time a client said, "just to let you I am one of the cleanest and most safe people you will ever meet" or man, I wish we didn't have to use these covers. " I am amazed at how many people out there are willing to be risky for a moment of uncovered pleasue. It truely baffles me why anyone who participates in these "extra recreational activities" would be willing to take such a big risk. I am with you Dawn, nothing is ever worth the risk of going coverless. Going coverless is like a game of Russian roulette in my opinion. If someone decides to no longer see me because of this, then they are not someone I would want to be with anyway because I would view them as too risky.
I always bathe then wash my hands and brush my teeth before meeting anyone. I also re- wash my hands and gargle Listerene before I meet anyone but that part is mainly because I don't want to smell like cigarettes. After reading your post I realized that I take good care of myself before I meet anyone, but I never thought about the client or fingernails. I keep hand sanitizer and Listerene with disposable cups in my bathroom, but that doesn't mean the client is using them and I haven't thought about that til I read your post. From now on, I think I will ask those that I meet to freshen up first with the hand sanitizer in my bathroom.
So, thank you Dawn for the great post and intel.
Sara
Member #4487
04-12-10, 08:41
HPV is more contagious than a common cold.
You can get this by touching a bathroom door,sitting on a toilet seat, shaking hands etc.
And to be honest, as of right now, there is no test for males for the HPV!
Dr. says , in the next 15-20 yrs, around 97% humans will have it. Pretty scary huh.
I still do not understand why certain people would even consider playing unprotected. It's mind boggling to me. I for one want to live a longggg time!
This hobby should be as safe as it is fun. In the end, it's up to every single one of us to keep it that way.
And by keeping it safe extends past just covering it up. And treating each other with respect.
Us guys as well as the providers put our necks out every time we meet. Let's keep it safe and fun so we can all enjoy.
Cintixtreme
04-12-10, 09:49
Norwood Health Commissioner: Syphilis Outbreak in SW Ohio
Guest blog by Pamela Walker-Bauer
I realize that for most of us, discussing sexually transmitted diseases (STDs) is not particularly easy; but as your health commissioner, I am obligated to make the community aware of the dramatic increase in any disease that has serious consequences if left undetected and untreated. In this case, it is not a new disease like H1N1, but rather it is an old foe. Syphilis has reared its ugly head yet again.
The number of Syphilis cases reported in Southwest Ohio has increased greatly over the past two years. There were 56 cases in 2007 and 70 cases in 2008. In 2009, there were 171 cases! Public Health officials have alerted area physicians of the outbreak advising them to be more suspicious and test for this disease. Syphilis is known as “the great imitator” because the signs and symptoms of this disease are similar to many others.
Syphilis is a sexually transmitted disease passed directly from person to person through direct contact with a Syphilis sore. Spread of the bacteria that causes Syphilis occurs during vaginal, anal, or oral sex. Pregnant women can even pass on this disease to their babies. Signs and symptoms of Syphilis occur in a series of stages: primary, secondary, and late.
Symptoms in the primary stage include a sore called chancre-there can be one or several. The sores are usually painless, firm, and round. The sore will heal in 3-6 weeks without treatment. However, if not treated with antibiotics at this stage, the disease will progress to a secondary, more serious stage.
The secondary stage of Syphilis is marked by a rash on one or more areas of the body. There may also be a fever, swollen glands, headaches, fatigue, muscle aches, or weight and hair loss. These symptoms will resolve even if not treated. Again if there is no treatment with antibiotics, the disease progresses to the late stage.
Late stage Syphilis may occur 10-20 years after the initial infection. This stage of the disease can be devastating. Damage occurs to the internal organs including the brain, nerves, eyes, heart, liver, bones and joints. Symptoms include: paralysis, difficulty moving, numbness, blindness, and dementia. Death may even occur from the damage.
If detected early, Syphilis is easily treatable with antibiotics. Physicians can detect the disease with a simple but accurate blood test. Through an STD grant, my colleagues at the Cincinnati Health Department can provide free testing for Syphilis at the Ambrose Clement Health Center, 3101 Burnet Avenue, (513) 357-7301.
Syphilis transmission can be reduced by the use of latex condoms. But the only sure way to prevent the spread of Syphilis is to abstain from sexual contact or have sexual contact only with one long term partner who has been tested and is known not to have the disease.
Coincidentally, April is STD Awareness Month.
Pamela Walker-Bauer, MPH, RS
Norwood City Health Commissioner
Luvsmassage
04-13-10, 01:11
I read the previous posts about how local providers are "preventing" the transmission of std's through using hand sanitizer, washing their hands, gargling with Listerine and brushing their teeth before and after meeting a client. FYI, The FACTS are these measures don't work with bloodborne STDs.
Listerine and hand sanitizers contain ethanol alcohol. This "sanitizer" doesn't kill STD's. A one to four ratio of bleach to water solution will destroy bloodborne STDS. Basic first aid training will teach you this.
The only thing gargling with Listerine does is reduce gum disease and plague. The truth is that brushing your teeth actually increases the chance of you transmitting a bloodborne STD. The reason is that the brushing may cause your gums to bleed. Hence an STD may enter or exit your bloodstream through your bleeding gums.
A visit to the website of the Center for Disease Control would be your best source for accurate prevention methods. Washing after sexual activity with soap and water, hand sanitizer, or using Listerine doesn't protect you from the spread of an STD.
You don't even have to have symptoms to spread herpes or other STD's. A provider or client could have a cut, abrasion, or sore inside their mouth, and transmit any number of STD's through oral contact. If a provider and monger kiss, they are opening themselves up to possibly spreading an STD. If they give and receive oral sex without the use of a condom or latex dental dam (for DATY), they are exposing themselves to the transmission of an STD.
I'm curious, how many providers and mongers on here use dental dams for DATY?
I have used this forum in the past to find a provider. I'm more concerned lately with who to avoid. And my concern deals with the mongers. For example, there is a senior monger on here who has reported being with 40-50 different escorts during the past year. I'm stirring clear of any providers this guy has used. Many STD's have symptoms that are subtle and may be hidden. Who knows what he has contracted and passed onto escorts and the other mongers who use them.
There's another monger on here that has met most of his providers off the chatlines or CL or BP. His reports of the 20 providers he's been been have him often placed in risky situations where his life could have been endangered. I see that he has recently started hooking up with the more "reputable escorts" on here. Who knows what he's sharing with those escorts and their clients?
I'm not criticizing these mongers or escorts. I'm just saying be aware of the facts in regards to protecting yourself against the spread of STD's.
EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Safe Sex topic in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for this type of information. Thanks!
Not only are there the dangers already discussed, but this can be very disconcerting.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/video/man-killed-lovers-breast-10329385
EDITOR'S SUGGESTION: This is interesting, but you might consider re-posting it under the Jokes thread in the Special Interests section of the Forum where it will benefit the Forum Members who are specifically looking for Jokes and Humorous stories. Thanks!
Tonguetwister
04-13-10, 13:03
Thanks for the info Luvsmassage. Your info on how brushing teeth prior to visits may not be the best idea was very helpful. I am aware that listerene and handsanitizer cannot kill an std but it is a form of sanitary method. I will look into the website you mentioned for more information to stay as safe as possible.
Thanks for info,
Sara aka Tonguetwister
Marmon1913
04-15-10, 07:42
Has and one seen Natalie on Backpage works out of NKY ft wright area is she legit http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/natalie-the-girl-next-door-31/2173491
She says her rate is 1.5 plus tip I hate it when they always ask for a tip like their starving
Has and one seen Natalie on Backpage works out of NKY ft wright area is she legit http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/natalie-the-girl-next-door-31/2173491
She says her rate is 1.5 plus tip I hate it when they always ask for a tip like their starving
I've never tipped a provider unless it was because I didn't have exact change. I've also never tipped my dentist, my realtor or the guys who installed my carpet.
I might be the only one who feels this way but when someone quotes you a price for a service I think it is implicit in the quote that the person or company is going put forth his or her best effort to make sure you're happy.
Besides, asking for a tip is gauche. I will absolutely never go see a girl who asks for a tip in her ad.
Please don't read this wrong. I'm not advocating that other guys stop tipping. If it works for you then tip away.
I've never tipped a provider unless it was because I didn't have exact change. I've also never tipped my dentist, my realtor or the guys who installed my carpet.There's no real rhyme or reason for who to tip or not, but there's not much reason to extend tipping to this area, or to dentists or carpet installers. Once or twice because I really liked the girl or really felt like she needed/deserved it.
I have given some extra. Even then, kind of regretted it, because if you repeat, then it's expected. I don't really bargain for lower rates often, but I also don't tip.
Mr Boombastic
04-16-10, 05:05
First of all stimulus, I totally agree with you. Now I have been tipping my street girls, because I know it gives them incentive to do a better job, but it is really included in what I am willing to pay to begin with. I mean if I tip her 5 bucks, then the deal was for 20, and I was willing to max at 25-30 to begin with. And if 30 is the price I tell them that the 30 had the tip in it, because I pay no more than 25. And in the same phrase if the cost is 20, then I give a 5 buck tip, after I have placed the 20 in her hand. This is so it always looks like a gift/tip. And I have tipped people in other service, especially when they go above and beyond the call of duty. Not everyone does that.
Here is what I need to know?:
While playing our Thursday poker game, a friend was telling me about an SW we all know who the police tried a sting on, but it did not go off as planned. They failed to get her on tape accepting any money or agreeing to anything. But it turned out the same cop had busted her years ago for soliciting and she did not immediately recon him, but he did her.
Anyway he tried to arrest her but due to lack of evidence, he had to let her go, but give her a ticket for court instead.
After going to court, they had no evidence the officer said she accepted $50, for service, yet they never produced the money with her prints on it. I thought that to be strange since some type of proof that the whole crime happened instead of strictly the word of the officer.
She could not afford a lawyer, and it wasn't major enough for a public defender. Did you hear what the county is doing with them. The county is ripping out the money the state has given the public defenders office for the public, and if using it for the prosecutors office. They are about to be sued over it.
How much evidence does an officer need to get a conviction. He should not be able to do this on just his word alone. It was appear that the officer lied in court, about the whole deal, because at the time of the arrest he was made to let her go because they did not have her recorded doing anything other than getting in the car, and no money was ever transferred, or talk about.
I would bet if she had a half-ass just pass the bar attorney, they would have gotten her off from that charge. But that is always the case when money matters in the courtroom/legal system.
Alright experts what is the deal on this/her situation?
I've never tipped a provider unless it was because I didn't have exact change. I've also never tipped my dentist, my realtor or the guys who installed my carpet.
I might be the only one who feels this way but when someone quotes you a price for a service I think it is implicit in the quote that the person or company is going put forth his or her best effort to make sure you're happy.
Besides, asking for a tip is gauche. I will absolutely never go see a girl who asks for a tip in her ad.
Please don't read this wrong. I'm not advocating that other guys stop tipping. If it works for you then tip away.
.
Nkykinkyguy
04-16-10, 08:59
I must say that I have to agree with Stimulus on this particular issue. The whole tipping thing just adds more stress and tension to an already volatile situation. (I am assuming we are referring to first time hook ups, why would there be any need for tipping on subsequent meetings? You already know the cost of the service provided including tip by then. And if you are still tipping after the first meeting you really need to re-evaluate how you are operating and who you are operating with!) The provider has her LEO radar on full alert! The client has his LEO and rip-off antenna fully extended and with all of that going on both parties are worrying about services provided and how much to tip for those extras! I don't see how providers that are legit and new clients ever get past the first meeting? My personal experience has shown me that the subsequent meetings always are better than the first. With all of the tension and stress removed it allows for both parties to relax and work towards mutual fulfillment. If you didn't like the person/experience the first time (Provider and/or client) why would you agree to go back. And if you agree to a second, third or fourth meeting why wouldn't both parties try and maximize their time with pleasure and enjoyment. I have received many calls from providers that I have seen on a regular basis, telling me someone asked about providing a particular service that she was not familiar with or something she seen or heard about and wanted to try with me first. The trust we established from multiple sessions enabled her to be open with me about new things. And besides that? Did you see my screen name? LOL! It is accurate!
If the provider will not quote me an exact price for the services I am looking for I will look elsewhere. I trust her to be a good judge as to what she feels her skills are worth on the open market and I am very sure that I know full well if I got my money's worth.
And as for the whole theory of tipping is concerned? Tipping is a gratuity (As in gracious for exemplary service) for work performed beyond the expected product. When has a provider soliciting for tips ever waited until the service was provided? Always seems to be asked for in advance correct? This really really smells of bait and switch tactics. Which by the way is illegal in every day commerce? If is illegal there why would you knowingly place yourself in a situation where you are subject to that kind of abuse when you know that if it happens you really do not have a reasonable option for recourse? Sounds to me like she is asking for you to be gracious that she is taking your money from you rather than you rewarding her for exemplary services that have been provided.
If we the consumer do our homework here and elsewhere (Senior members? How many times have we seen newbie’s post their rip-offs here when the warnings were already posted in previous threads?) before jumping at the next pretty picture that pops up on the net we would avoid rip-off tip artist and reward the quality providers with our business and eventually see the tipping rip-off ads and providers disappear for the most part. Thus saving us all time, money and grief. Although this would cut down on our conversation options and reduce our opportunities to have a good laugh now and then. LOL!
Just my opinion, no harm intended to anyone in particular. So please don't blast me personally. If your opinion differs I am sure we are all happy to take it under advisement, as I hope you do mine.
Damn guys, Sorry for the long post didn’t mean to go on and on but it just started to flow and I didn’t realize how long it had gotten. Hmmm? Maybe that’s why I have gotten blasted in the past? LOL! Oh well, sorry one last time.
Happy Hunting and be Safe!
I've never tipped a provider unless it was because I didn't have exact change. I've also never tipped my dentist, my realtor or the guys who installed my carpet.
I might be the only one who feels this way but when someone quotes you a price for a service I think it is implicit in the quote that the person or company is going put forth his or her best effort to make sure you're happy.
Besides, asking for a tip is gauche. I will absolutely never go see a girl who asks for a tip in her ad.
Please don't read this wrong. I'm not advocating that other guys stop tipping. If it works for you then tip away.
Handiman66
04-16-10, 16:58
wow...away a month, home 3 days and assman leave, returns ???
things calming down on the board I hope. Be gone another 2 weeks then hopefully home to partake again for awhile
Be safe
HM
Nkykinkyguy
04-16-10, 17:03
That is why many, like myself are hanging out on the backstage. Much calmer back here.
I only post general commentary now with the occassional report for someone else. Everything else I do by PM. Not as much fun but absolutely a lot less drama and no flame throwers going off.
wow...away a month, home 3 days and assman leave, returns ???
things calming down on the board I hope. Be gone another 2 weeks then hopefully home to partake again for awhile
Be safe
HM
Nkykinkyguy
04-19-10, 10:09
Hello All,
I want to start out by commending Whodeyman for stepping out from the backstage and putting his opinions out on the board. I truly believe this board is a much better venue to communicate information when the well seasoned senior members participate openly and without the dread of an impending drama blow up when a report is posted.
I think that we can get back to that level of communication some day if we can just get everyone to understand that it is just one persons opinion of a level of service. All hobbyist and all providers are not going to click every time. When we all get to the point of accepting this and not flaming because we didn't seem to have the same great time as another member here I think we will all be better for it. I know that I personally read all of the post but for the most part I only truly depend on my close circle of friends. If a post outside of the circle that appears appealing we will all discuss the merits of it and make a decision from there. Sometimes one of us will TOFTT and other times we will wait and see. But it is always great to get the information.
Also, my observations only mind you, but it seems the senior members are the majority of my back stage comrades. These are the very people that have been here the longest, have the most experience both positive and regarding rip-offs and at one time seemed the most giving in the information that they had to share.
I for one know that I would never have been as successful in the hobby without the invaluable information that I have gained from a multitude of senior members here. The list of these members is too large to list and I am grateful to all of them, Thank You ALL!
Many of us are now only communicating by PM. In my opinion we are not the ones suffering it is the new comers and the providers that are suffering. The only ones profiting from this problem are the rip-off girls. The new comers are not gaining the valuable information these senior members have to offer and it is costing them to lose some of their hard earner money. All Hail the Assman for paying one back for us. LOL! You are the man dude! The quality providers are not getting the attention and hyperbolae they so richly deserve. If we want to keep them around then we need to keep them busy. But not to busy. LOL! Assman and Whodey this might be directed at you LOL!
We were all new at one time and I would think that all of us have previous hobbyist to thank for saving us all time, money and legal issues. I for one am going to begin to slowly step back out on stage and make my reports public again in the near future. I feel that I do owe this board and the senior members that helped me a debt of gratitude. I just hope that others will follow and begin to make this board great again.
A great communication board is a benefit to all of us. I am going to try and live by one of the most endeared phases of golf etiquette. It just came to me while I was golfing yesterday and Whodey was torching my cell with his details of Mallory.
Leave the course better than you found it. Don't just repair your ball mark, repair one more every time. Don't just replace your divot, replace one more every time. I am going to try to do my part to payback this board by leaving it a better place when I decide to leave than it was when I came. This is a huge challenge in my opinion as this board was very special when I joined. Hopefully others will come help me as I know that I am not up to the challenge all by my lonesome. So, come on guys lets get this place hopping again in the right way LOL! The new guys and the quality providers deserve it and we all owe it.
Good Luck and Happy Hunting.
Be Safe,
KG
P.S. KG is ducking and covering right now in anticipation of the impending Flame throwers being fired up. LOL!
Wingman Todd
04-19-10, 14:15
NK.
As always, you are an excellent communicator (not The Great Communicator -that was Ronald Reagon!). You are correct in pointing out:
"The quality providers are not getting the attention and hyperbolae they so richly deserve. If we want to keep them around then we need to keep them busy." Also consider that for most, though not all, this is their livelyhood. Keep them safe and busy!
And I share you sentiments when commenting how you would not have been so successfull in this hobby without the support and intel from Senoirs and for that matter a few close providers. To all you nubies to the board and hobby, watch listen and learn as I did starting out. There is a wealth of intel and knowledge on the threads - present and past posts.
I used to thoroughly enjoy reading others posts and reviews (well I still do!) as well as posting and sharing info with all. I am glad you, Assman, Whodey and numerous others are still out there "plugging" away (lol) and leading the charge! As most know, more than a month ago I stepped to the backround due to all the drama issues. Several weeks ago I also decided to step aside from "personal hobbying" to concentrate on putting my focus elswhere and in a new direction of importance.
I will still be in the backround. Feel free to PM anytime. Stay safe & have fun!
Wingman
P.S. Nkykinkguy, watch your back my friend for that lone flaming arrow~!!
Hello All,
I want to start out by commending Whodeyman for stepping out from the backstage and putting his opinions out on the board. I truly believe this board is a much better venue to communicate information when the well seasoned senior members participate openly and without the dread of an impending drama blow up when a report is posted.
I think that we can get back to that level of communication some day if we can just get everyone to understand that it is just one persons opinion of a level of service. All hobbyist and all providers are not going to click every time. When we all get to the point of accepting this and not flaming because we didn't seem to have the same great time as another member here I think we will all be better for it. I know that I personally read all of the post but for the most part I only truly depend on my close circle of friends. If a post outside of the circle that appears appealing we will all discuss the merits of it and make a decision from there. Sometimes one of us will TOFTT and other times we will wait and see. But it is always great to get the information.
Also, my observations only mind you, but it seems the senior members are the majority of my back stage comrades. These are the very people that have been here the longest, have the most experience both positive and regarding rip-offs and at one time seemed the most giving in the information that they had to share.
I for one know that I would never have been as successful in the hobby without the invaluable information that I have gained from a multitude of senior members here. The list of these members is too large to list and I am grateful to all of them, Thank You ALL!
Many of us are now only communicating by PM. In my opinion we are not the ones suffering it is the new comers and the providers that are suffering. The only ones profiting from this problem are the rip-off girls. The new comers are not gaining the valuable information these senior members have to offer and it is costing them to lose some of their hard earner money. All Hail the Assman for paying one back for us. LOL! You are the man dude! The quality providers are not getting the attention and hyperbolae they so richly deserve. If we want to keep them around then we need to keep them busy. But not to busy. LOL! Assman and Whodey this might be directed at you LOL!
We were all new at one time and I would think that all of us have previous hobbyist to thank for saving us all time, money and legal issues. I for one am going to begin to slowly step back out on stage and make my reports public again in the near future. I feel that I do owe this board and the senior members that helped me a debt of gratitude. I just hope that others will follow and begin to make this board great again.
A great communication board is a benefit to all of us. I am going to try and live by one of the most endeared phases of golf etiquette. It just came to me while I was golfing yesterday and Whodey was torching my cell with his details of Mallory.
Leave the course better than you found it. Don't just repair your ball mark, repair one more every time. Don't just replace your divot, replace one more every time. I am going to try to do my part to payback this board by leaving it a better place when I decide to leave than it was when I came. This is a huge challenge in my opinion as this board was very special when I joined. Hopefully others will come help me as I know that I am not up to the challenge all by my lonesome. So, come on guys lets get this place hopping again in the right way LOL! The new guys and the quality providers deserve it and we all owe it.
Good Luck and Happy Hunting.
Be Safe,
KG
P.S. KG is ducking and covering right now in anticipation of the impending Flame throwers being fired up. LOL!
I just popped in to say I am still here but I just haven't seen anybody lately. I don't think I've seen anyone since I saw Candicane about 3 or 4 weeks ago. I've been working about 70 hours a week and haven't had a day off in 3 weeks.
The good news is my project is almost over and I plan on celebrating big time when it is. And once my project pays off in a month or two I will once again be able to afford the company of ladies on a more frequent basis.
In the meantime I can only reflect on some of my past experiences with the very lovely ladies Candicane, Little Asian, Callie, Sara Tonguetwister, Princess, Brooke Taylor, etc. I hope any ladies I've left off will forgive me since I'm pretty brain dead right now.
As to the aforementioned, all the above ladies are first rate in my book and I can't wait to see each and every one of them again. I wish I could manage to see them all at once. I probably wouldn't survive it but what a way to go!
As for the drama - who cares? I don't pay any attention to it. The best way to stop the drama is to ignore it. You know what they say: Don't feed the drama and it will go away.
Nkykinkyguy
04-20-10, 10:20
Good Morning All,
I have received numerous requests for information on all of the reports that hit my PM box over the weekend.
While I don't want to post individual information that I received request from the members here to stay private. I do want to pass along the general consensus from all of my friends that were nice enough to give me their reports and provide those requesting information accurate feed back.
While all reports were a little different in services provided/wanted it was unanimous that Mallory provided excellent service. All agreed that she was a very nice/sweet girl that genuinely seem to like her work and was very good at it. Services listed were as follows; Kissing, BBBJ, covered F/S, Mish, CG, Doggie, DATY, Rimming etc. All agreed that she had the high school girl charm with a woman’s skills. One person was surprised but wasn't complaining that she has braces on her teeth. He said that it did add to the high school girl affect. Also it was repeated throughout the PM’s that she is one tight little girl.
The only negative issue that came up (more than once) was that the apartment was messy, but as one person said "I wasn't there for her cleaning skills."
I hope this will help all of those looking for information on Mallory and that I have not infringed upon any members request of privacy.
Seems to me guys that we need to keep this little girl busy.
Happy Hunting and be safe.
KG
Mr Boombastic
04-20-10, 14:02
Forgive me for the Repost, but.
My friend needs your expertise ASAP or Sooner. She needs to see about filing an APPEAL.
She needs to know if it is worth getting a lawyer to do so.
Here is what I need to know?:
While playing our Thursday poker game, a friend was telling me about an SW we all know who the police tried a sting on, but it did not go off as planned. They failed to get her on tape accepting any money or agreeing to anything. But it turned out the same cop had busted her years ago for soliciting and she did not immediately recon him, but he did her.
Anyway he tried to arrest her but due to lack of evidence, he had to let her go, but give her a ticket for court instead.
After going to court, they had no evidence the officer said she accepted $50, for service, yet they never produced the money with her prints on it. I thought that to be strange since some type of proof that the whole crime happened instead of strictly the word of the officer.
She could not afford a lawyer, and it wasn't major enough for a public defender. Did you hear what the county is doing with them. The county is ripping out the money the state has given the public defenders office for the public, and if using it for the prosecutors office. They are about to be sued over it.
How much evidence does an officer need to get a conviction. He should not be able to do this on just his word alone. It was appear that the officer lied in court, about the whole deal, because at the time of the arrest he was made to let her go because they did not have her recorded doing anything other than getting in the car, and no money was ever transferred, or talk about.
I would bet if she had a half-ass just pass the bar attorney, they would have gotten her off from that charge. But that is always the case when money matters in the courtroom/legal system.
Alright experts what is the deal on this/her situation?
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I deleted the grumpy post I made this AM because I thought WTF, people post what they see as important, and it may or not be valuable to others... Fine.
Over and out.
Giani
Wingman Todd
04-21-10, 16:34
I came across this article on another board, and thought it should be shared here for the benefit for all nubies, a refresher for Seniors and for all providers. Sorry that it long, but it is packed with some good intel to remember.
Some Basic Thoughts on LE as it pertains to the Hobby
Cops are inherently lazy (most of them).
Large cities create different divisions in their police force (Patrol, Detective, Administration, Dispatch, Corrections, etc.).
Large departments create special divisions within their detective bureau (homicide, theft, auto theft, juvenile, vice, narcotics, etc.)
The smaller the departments, the less likely it is that you will see a detective division, let alone one specifically designated to work vice.
Depending on what environment and/or culture you are in will determine what attitude you will encounter with regards to nudity. (i.e., Europeans, and South Americans generally permit partial or total nudity in public, USA has created an attitude that nudity is bad.)
It has been said that prostitution is the world’s oldest profession.
Depending on what environment and/or culture you are in will determine what attitude you will encounter with regards to prostitution.
The USA began with the establishment of colonies along the Eastern Coast. Many of these colonies were formed of people with strong, strict religious principals. (i.e., the New England Puritans. Ours roots produced a White Anglo Saxon Protestant [WASP] mentality that nudity, sex was wrong.)
In Europe, attitudes concerning prostitution, sex and nudity are much more liberal than here in the States.
As a result of our history and upbringing, the American people generally are opposed (publicly) to prostitution.
Politicians like their cushy jobs and want to keep those jobs. They respond to pressure from society and have passed laws prohibiting prostitution.
Prostitution, when it occurs here in the States, therefore generally occurs in secret as opposed to openly. That secrecy fosters and promotes other criminal acts that are often associated with prostitution by the American public, its politicians and law enforcement. (Johns are robbed, drugs associated with prostitution, women forced to be prostitutes, etc.)
The police, politicians and the public then demand action to stop prostitution to cut down crime, prevent forced prostitution, cut down on drugs. The police chief, hoping to keep his job, and the politician hoping to keep his job, respond to the problem so perceived by cracking down on prostitution by arresting prostitutes and their clients.
Various interest groups manipulate this whole man made problem to their advantage (the wife or the girlfriend who discovers that her significant other has seen a provider, politician hoping to get elected or to retain their jobs, police who can’t catch a criminal pick the escort business to demonstrate that they are taking action to cut down on crime.)
The bottom line is whether you are a provider or a hobbyist, there are social forces at work that result in the profession, the providers and the clients, under the right circumstances, becoming targets of law enforcement.
Therefore,
ONE - if you are going to participate in this area, you should be aware of the police department that covers that area and whether they have a special division to investigate these “crimes.” If they do, you are more at risk to meet Johnny Law than if you were in a jurisdiction that did not have a special unit.
TWO – You should be sensitive to the political mumbling taking place in that jurisdiction. If the mayor has announced that he wants to crack down on this activity, you stand a better chance that you will encounter Johnny Law.
THREE – If you intend to participate in the area, whether as a provider or a hobbyist, you need to accept the fact that you may meet up with Johnny Law and you had better have an idea what you are going to do and how you will handle it.
FOUR – If you are going to participate in this area, and you have the misfortune to meet Johnny Law, LE will do everything it can to get you to talk and tell names. What you do and say will depend upon your particular circumstances, but giving up your companion should not be one of them. In other words, you don’t give up the provider when you are the client, and you don’t give up the client when you are the provider when Johnny Law applies the pressure. You walked into this with your eyes open, don’t turn roll over for them just because they put pressure on you. If you are a hobbyist and you have a wife or a significant other who is going to cause you grief because you have been with a provider, then either suck it up and take it like a man, or don’t make an appointment with a provider. If you are a provider who got nailed, do not talk about your clients.
Providers
If you are a provider, you should understand how LE works. If you are in a jurisdiction that has a vice unit, that unit has to produce to keep their supervisors happy.
Motel operators are very cooperative with LE.
There is nothing that says that a cop can’t lie to you.
Cops are not supposed to engage in a sexual act with you, but they do. If they are a cop and they engage in a sexual act with you, they may not bust you this time, but wait until the next time, when they avoid the sexual contact. Or they may simply use the information to get a search warrant and then take you down, or they may simply issue a complaint. If you appear, you may plead. If you appear and contest the charge, they may drop the case rather than expose their methods. You need an attorney to help advise you.
If your appointment is with a cop and he is going to bust you, he will most likely have fellow officers nearby (outside the door). He may be wearing a wire (transmitter to fellow officers) or carrying a tape recorder.
If it is going to be a bust, he will generally do something to signal the other officers to come in, either by speaking a prerecorded phrase, or going to the door and opening it, etc. Many busts go down when the officer excuses himself to use the bathroom.
Think about the case from the police/prosecution perspective: If the cops enter and the provider is naked or partially nude and the undercover officer is clothed, their case is a lot stronger.
**If there is an exchange of money, the money is “marked” money. That is, generally, the cops have recorded the serial numbers of the bills. This money is found in the provider’s possession, it is evidence that the provider took money for something from this undercover cop.
**The cop, in a bust situation, will want there to be discussion about a sexual act and money for that act.
**If you advertise in order to get clients, understand that LE is reading those ads as well.
**If you are busted by the cops, understand that they will take any cash you have, they will take your cell phone, they will take your computer, they will seize your car.
If you are busted by the cops, they will put pressure on you to talk.
If you are busted by the cops, they may have the media with them.
If you are busted by the cops, and the media is with them, your name (and picture) may appear in the media (TV, newspaper).
Provider do’s and don’ts
Pick carefully your incall location, with an eye towards, what police agencies may cover that area, what the political situation is like.
If you are going to do an outcall, give some thought to where the appointment is going to be and what LE agency covers that area and what the political situation is like.
When you get a call for an appointment, never discuss money or what services you will provide. If it is LE, the call will probably be taped.
**If meeting someone you have not seen before, demand references. Get numbers that you can call discreetly, check the web for the company name and so on. However, be mindful that the cops can set up a phone for you to call that is answered at the Police Department. Same way with company addresses, and references. Anyone can set up a web page with a phony picture and email address. You contact a provider reference and get an all clear. How do you know it was a legitimate provider and not LE?
**A provider recently told me that she will not take a new local client who cannot give her a local provider reference. This makes good sense. **If your prospective client lives locally, but cannot give you a reference to another local provider, there is something wrong, unless the guy is a flat out newbie.
If you are meeting this guy for the first time, embrace him. Run your hands up and down his back, front, legs, everywhere. See if you can feel a wire or tape recorder. If you feel one, keep quiet about it and cancel the meeting.
Incall or outcall, give some thought to where you park you car. Try to park your car in the lot of the hotel or restaurant next door. (Remember, cops are lazy. They will run all the plates of the cars in the hotel lot looking for yours, but generally will not go to adjacent lots. If you want to park your car in the lot, give some thought to using a rental car. Cops may try to seek forfeiture of your car claiming it was used in furtherance of a crime. They can’t if it’s a rental car.)
Incall or outcall, give some thought to leaving your cell phone in your car. The cops will seize your phone if they find it, check all of the numbers that are on it, subpoena the phone records for the past year and try to work the case from that angle. Give some thought to using throw away phones, if you want the phone with you. Change it regularly, the more often the better. It makes it more difficult for the cops to show you are in the sex business for money without a lot of calls.
Incall or outcall, if they bust you, they are going to take your computer if they find it. Give some thought to leaving it in the car as well.
**If outcall, circle the lot before you park to see if there is anyone sitting in a car watching.
If incall, watch the client approach through the peephole.
If incall, try to get a room hat overlooks the parking lot. Watch the lot for the client to arrive. Cancel the appointment, if he has someone with him, or if other cars pull in with him. They almost always will talk with one another before they come up. Problem is if they meet off site. But, two or three cars coming in at the same time should send up flags for you.
If incall, DO NOT open the door and greet the client naked or in a skimpy, see through negligee. If you know the client and you trust him, perhaps, but never, never, never, with a first time meet.
**Never take the money from the client, EVER. (I understand that you want to make sure that the funds in the correct amount have been paid, but you are putting your neck in the noose by taking the money or counting it.)
Always let the client make the first move. If he is hesitant, suggest that he make himself comfortable. He should take the clue and get naked. Your attorney can argue that you were so overcome by the sight of his beautiful naked body, that you couldn’t stop yourself from doing him. If he doesn’t take the hint, give some thought to canceling the appointment.
**Expect that, if you advertise, your ad will be used against you. If your photo is there, and if you have a tattoo and that tattoo appears in the photo, they can link you to the ad, to sex trade for money. Consider covering the tattoo with makeup before the photo or getting a stick-on/peel-off tattoo if you have no tattoos. Your lawyer can argue that they have the wrong person – that you are not the person depicted in the photo. If your face appears in the ad, again, you are linked to the ad and the sex trade for money. Better to limit photos to shots where your face is not seen. As a hobbyist, I want to know what the fee is before I call a provider. **However, if you post a price in your ad, you have linked yourself to the sex for money trade. You’re not fooling anyone when you ask for 300 red roses. On the other hand, you absolutely do not want to discuss money with the client, EVER! I suggest that what remuneration you expect should be couched in terms of what you charge for your companionship. It should not reference GFE.
You do not want anything to do with drugs. If the client brings drugs, cancel the appointment immediately.
You should have memorized phone numbers of an attorney and a bail bondsman. Since the cops will probably take your phone, computer and money, you need a way to reach someone so the calvary can come to your aid. Having a phone number that you can call collect to get help on the way would be prudent.
If you do not think you can handle being arrested, losing your phone, your computer, your car, having your name and picture plaster in the media, you should consider a different line of work.
If the cops have busted you, and you know they have you dead to rights, you probably should not be hard-nosed with them. They’ll make your life miserable. But, if it is a questionable arrest, you should give serious thought not making any statements. You have the right to speak with an attorney and you should exercise that right. Getting arrested is one of the hazards of the business.
Since getting arrested is one of the hazards of the business, you should consider not playing in your own backyard, unless you can handle the publicity.
Bottom line here is be safe, be careful.
If you are aware of providers that are rip offs, get the word out. If a crime occurs and is linked to the business, expect cranked up LE heat, and you don’t need that.
If you are aware of clients that are suspicious, get the word out to other providers.
If you are in the business as a provider, talk with and get to know other providers. Locate and participate in boards that share info between providers. Participate in those boards and discussions. The more you learn, the safer you will be.
If you are arrested, the cops will question you. Anything you say can come back to haunt you, even if you have not been advised of your right to remain silent. The best advice I can give you is to remain silent except to say, “I want to talk to my lawyer.”
Hobbyists
Most busts of Hobbyists are on the street where cops put an undercover police officer on the street as a street walker. You’re on your own there, guys.
I have not seen or heard of a situation where an undercover cop places an ad, does either an incall or outcall, and then makes an arrest. That is not to say it hasn’t or won’t happen. If it is going to happen, it will probably be in the larger cities.
The provider should lock the door after you enter. If she doesn’t, you should consider leaving.
Assuming this is the first time with this lady, never hand the money to the provider and never talk about what sexual acts will be performed. You should do your research before making an appointment with the provider. Does she have a web site, does she have reviews.
If you are busted by LE, they will take your phone, your money and tow your car. Consider leaving your car, phone and extra money in your car and consider parking your car in the parking lot of a neighboring restaurant or hotel.
If you are busted by LE, they will try to question you, even if you have not been advised of your right to remain silent. Keep your mouth shut except to say, “I want to call my lawyer.”
Have memorized a phone number of an attorney and bail bondsman. Also a number that you can call collect to get help on the way.
Lastly, Provider –client contact, LE waiting outside the door:
In this scenario, generally either the provider or the client is an undercover cop or informant. Follow the procedures above.
However, if it is a legitimate provider and a legitimate client, and LE is waiting outside the door, they don’t have anything unless you start talking. Keep your trap shut except to say, “I want to talk to my lawyer.”
Again sorry for the length!
Wingman
Resipsaloquito
04-22-10, 09:39
Forgive me for the Repost, but.
My friend needs your expertise ASAP or Sooner. She needs to see about filing an APPEAL.
She needs to know if it is worth getting a lawyer to do so.Unfortunately for your friend, she doesn't get to start over with the appeal. Trial Court Errors, with very limited exceptions, must be objected to at trial or they are waived. against the
Her only reason for appeal would be a claim that the conviction was against the manifest weight of the evidence. Ac standard she can't win since the trial court's determination of the facts is given great deference on appeal.
If she had an attorney at trial, she could quite possibly have prevailed, but that horse has left the barn.
Remember the two most important ups when dealing with the police.
1. Shut UP
2. Lawyer UP
CletusTheYokel
04-22-10, 14:19
I wont copy the whole post because it was very long. It was well worth reading--thanks for posting it, wingman.
My observation is an obvious one, but maybe it gets overlooked: Its much better to be a monger than a provider, in legal terms. Fair? Probably not--I'll let you decide. But it is how it is.
Lesson? Treat the fair and honest providers well!
My two cents.
Crazykev
I was just getting ready to pull the trigger and give Mallory a call, when one of my old friends gives me a ring and wants to hook up. I really wanted to give Mallory a try, but I decided to pocket the extra 1$$ and go with my old friend who looks awesome and very well kept also. Mallory looks very cute, but I'm just having a hard time justifying what you guys are calling a "good deal". Price still seems high for a little bit of fun. Though I could be totally missing out on something spectacular.
(T)he police tried a sting on, but it did not go off as planned. They failed to get her on tape accepting any money or agreeing to anything. But it turned out the same cop had busted her years ago for soliciting and she did not immediately recon him, but he did her.
Anyway he tried to arrest her but due to lack of evidence, he had to let her go, but give her a ticket for court instead.
The police officer did not make a custodial arrest and take her to jail (as in burglary). He wrote her a ticket (like a traffic ticket) instead. That is not "letting her go."
After going to court, they had no evidence the officer said she accepted $50, for service, yet they never produced the money with her prints on it. I thought that to be strange since some type of proof that the whole crime happened instead of strictly the word of the officer.
The prosecutor had no evidence? The arresting officer testified he made a P4P deal with her. That sounds like evidence to me.
The prosecutor didn't produce the money with her prints on it? On a speeding ticket they don't produce your steering wheel with your prints on it either.
It was his word against her word. Happens all the time. The judge apparently believed the police officer.
The arresting officer testified he made a P4P deal with her. That sounds like evidence to me.
The prosecutor didn't produce the money with her prints on it? On a speeding ticket they don't produce your steering wheel with your prints on it either.
It was his word against her word. Happens all the time. The judge apparently believed the police officer.
And that's the way the cookie crumbles my friends.
Nkykinkyguy
04-23-10, 12:16
Hello Nati,
I was just having this very same conversation with Harpo earlier this week. I have total respect for the guys that frequent the street girls. It takes big balls and lots of advance scout work to do what you guys do and be successful at it while not getting pinched.
Speaking for myself, I make larger donations than you do because meeting a vouched provider at her incall location has a much safer and more intimate feel to it. Also, I do not like the tension that playing in my car at a hopefully discreet location creates. I just feel more comfortable at a nice clean safe incall location.
If you add the cost of a decent hotel room to what you would pay for F/S from a street girl in your car plus the gas used for obtaining your intel I don't see where paying $.60 for vouched provider like Mallory (Just using her as an example because she was mentioned in the post) where you have a reasonable expectation of getting exactly what you are looking for and having a much lower risk of going home empty handed (Or maybe full handed due to needing self service LOL) because only the fags as you guys call them were the only ones out that day/night when you went on your cruise is that much of a price increase for the comfort level that you are paying for.
I do feel that paying $.60 for an unrushed encounter with a vouched provider is a good deal compared to the $$$ and up that some guys pay to the Eros Guide travel girls. I guess I feel the same way towards those guys as you do towards me. Why pay that much when there are other quality providers at half the cost. I guess I feel I am getting a great deal because I do my homework and intel here (Note to Jackson; You know I wouldn’t go anywhere else. LOL) to find these girls and they take the easy route.
I would guess that there is probably close to the same risk percentage of taking home an unwanted extra from your experience if all protection measures are used equally. I for one have seen where BP/CL girls have been reported infected with various issues and then they disappear. I am sure it is the same on the street.
Even though I respect what you do it is not what I am looking for and I do not have the time or inclination to do all of the advance scout work that you guys do and still run the risk of coming up empty handed. I do think it is very impressive how diligent and persistent you guys are in your preparation and execution of the hunt.
I do think that Harpo hit the nail on the head when he said “We like the thrill of the hunt!” If that is a big part of the thrill that you are looking for you won’t find that by perusing BP, CL, Eros Guide or any other provider advertising outlet at any price. Only your chosen hunting ground can provide that.
We all have our own level of kink/thrill that we gravitate to. None better than the other just different is all. Different is hard to understand sometimes.
I was just getting ready to pull the trigger and give Mallory a call, when one of my old friends gives me a ring and wants to hook up. I really wanted to give Mallory a try, but I decided to pocket the extra 1$$ and go with my old friend who looks awesome and very well kept also. Mallory looks very cute, but I'm just having a hard time justifying what you guys are calling a "good deal". Price still seems high for a little bit of fun. Though I could be totally missing out on something spectacular.
Mr Boombastic
04-23-10, 17:32
Here is the deal as told to me via PM's.:
The Police were suppose to keep the Money given as evidence, and since that never happened, via her word they had none. Each time LE does a sting all evidence is kept no matter what it is. Then LE always tape the whole event, mainly video, but due to the situation the audio portion of that is the nailer.
LE had none of this, and this was a Sting Team. One of the officers even tried to arrest her, but the one of the other officers even told them they had no evidence thus they settled on a ticket. The officer who tried to arrest her wanted something out of it, thus a ticket.
She had no money for a lawyer, and the case did not raise to the level of getting a Public Defender. Basically she was Doomed in the courts of Hamilton County.
Even a Half Ass attorney would have been able to get her off, but again MONEY is the problem. The court are about Money, Not about Justice. With a decent attorney it would have been thrown out, never making it to court.
As for the speeding ticket, not court will let an officer give you a ticket for speeding with evidence and logging that evidence. This includes log records, instrument mastering & verification, location, and the law itself.
This I know because I have beaten many Speeding tickets, in several Counties, especially Hamilton County.
This was done without an attorney, against a Prosecuting Attorney.
So the thing about the steering wheel is really a little far out there, but I can appreciate what you were trying to say.
Basically she got the Shaft, and the Police, Prosecutor, and Judge knew this. This is why she got the lowest fine possible, instead of the highest, which could range up to $1000.
As for the Attorney that PMed me I will turn your name over to her, but I think now she just wants to just pay off the fine. I think she should fight it for future purposes, but the Court System is made to just beat you down. She has been beat down, and she again lacks money. Good thing she is not on Drugs.
The police officer did not make a custodial arrest and take her to jail (as in burglary). He wrote her a ticket (like a traffic ticket) instead. That is not "letting her go. "
The prosecutor had no evidence? The arresting officer testified he made a P4P deal with her. That sounds like evidence to me.
The prosecutor didn't produce the money with her prints on it? On a speeding ticket they don't produce your steering wheel with your prints on it either.
It was his word against her word. Happens all the time. The judge apparently believed the police officer.
Mr Boombastic
04-23-10, 17:43
If You Must and Have To Deal With the Police:
Learn to just. "Shut Up". "Lawyer Up".
And Know the Law you are charged with.
Get a O. R. C. (Ohio Revised Code) book. You can contact Lexus Nexus (Google Search) and buy it from them.
It has helped me alot, especially when pulled over in these Speed Trap mini towns like Newtown, Arlington Heights, Reading, N. C. H., and even Cincinnati.
Just because the Police are the Police doesn't mean they always know the Law, and are correct in enforcing it. That is why they need the Prosecutor & Judge to help them fix their mistakes.
Unfortunately for your friend, she doesn't get to start over with the appeal. Trial Court Errors, with very limited exceptions, must be objected to at trial or they are waived. against the
Her only reason for appeal would be a claim that the conviction was against the manifest weight of the evidence. Ac standard she can't win since the trial court's determination of the facts is given great deference on appeal.
If she had an attorney at trial, she could quite possibly have prevailed, but that horse has left the barn.
Remember the two most important ups when dealing with the police.
1. Shut UP
2. Lawyer UP
Curiousguy795
04-23-10, 17:50
Hey guys,
I really really don't want to pickup SW but I'm having a really hard time getting any activity other than springfield and the only other person that saw me was roxanne. I am completely new to the hobby other than that (except for a hotel in shanghai). Can somebody give me some advice how to get some decent incall company? I have tried a few times messaging a couple girls on here but nobody responds. Obviously nobody wants to take a chance on someone that could be LE but somehow there has to be a start. Any advice from the vets?
Unfortunately for your friend, she doesn't get to start over with the appeal. Trial Court Errors, with very limited exceptions, must be objected to at trial or they are waived. against the
Her only reason for appeal would be a claim that the conviction was against the manifest weight of the evidence. Ac standard she can't win since the trial court's determination of the facts is given great deference on appeal.
If she had an attorney at trial, she could quite possibly have prevailed, but that horse has left the barn.
Remember the two most important ups when dealing with the police.
1. Shut UP
2. Lawyer UP
If she didn't have a lawyer, she didn't have adequate representation in the eyes of the law - she should have grounds for an appeal based on that.
But, if the fine was minimal, it's over and done with, and a fine was all she got, is it really worth it? Seems like a thing to just move on from to me.
All we know is a streetwalker interacted with an under-cover cop. Nothing about P4P has been mentioned thus far. All talk about there being no audio tape or money changing hands, and failings of the judicial system may be true, but it misses the point. If she agreed to do the deed, P4P, they have her. If not, they don't.
Here is the deal as told to me via PM's.:
The Police were suppose to keep the Money given as evidence, and since that never happened, via her word they had none. Each time LE does a sting all evidence is kept no matter what it is. Then LE always tape the whole event, mainly video, but due to the situation the audio portion of that is the nailer.
LE had none of this, and this was a Sting Team. One of the officers even tried to arrest her, but the one of the other officers even told them they had no evidence thus they settled on a ticket. The officer who tried to arrest her wanted something out of it, thus a ticket.
She had no money for a lawyer, and the case did not raise to the level of getting a Public Defender. Basically she was Doomed in the courts of Hamilton County.
Even a Half Ass attorney would have been able to get her off, but again MONEY is the problem. The court are about Money, Not about Justice. With a decent attorney it would have been thrown out, never making it to court.
As for the speeding ticket, not court will let an officer give you a ticket for speeding with evidence and logging that evidence. This includes log records, instrument mastering & verification, location, and the law itself.
This I know because I have beaten many Speeding tickets, in several Counties, especially Hamilton County.
This was done without an attorney, against a Prosecuting Attorney.
So the thing about the steering wheel is really a little far out there, but I can appreciate what you were trying to say.
Basically she got the Shaft, and the Police, Prosecutor, and Judge knew this. This is why she got the lowest fine possible, instead of the highest, which could range up to $1000.
As for the Attorney that PMed me I will turn your name over to her, but I think now she just wants to just pay off the fine. I think she should fight it for future purposes, but the Court System is made to just beat you down. She has been beat down, and she again lacks money. Good thing she is not on Drugs.
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sweet-and-sexy-sophie-513-834-1063/2207354
Has anyone TOFTT on this new ad? Tineye checks out as well as some research.
Resipsaloquito
04-24-10, 10:49
If she didn't have a lawyer, she didn't have adequate representation in the eyes of the law - she should have grounds for an appeal based on that.
But, if the fine was minimal, it's over and done with, and a fine was all she got, is it really worth it? Seems like a thing to just move on from to me.Bad lawyering can be a reason for a successful appeal on major cases such as those involving the death penalty.
However, where there is no incarceration at risk, a person is not entitled to representation. In those cases, where a person elects to represents herself, you own your own screw ups.
In reality your asking a three judge panel to give you a new trial because you didn't know what you were doing and didn't hire an attorney. Pay the finbe and move on.
Curiousguy795
04-24-10, 11:31
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sweet-and-sexy-sophie-513-834-1063/2207354
Has anyone TOFTT on this new ad? Tineye checks out as well as some research.Definitely interested in this one. She looks super hot. Something weird about the picture though, she doesn't quite "feel" like an escort does she? That looks like a facebook picture of some college girl to me. Just saying.
Nkykinkyguy
04-24-10, 14:43
She is Stephanie on Backpage
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/i-am-stephanie-513-834-1063-i-am-an-eastern-girl-fulfilling-dreams/1900206
and
Jassmine on Zekes Express
http://zekesxpress.org/ads/132/posts/3_Services/1_Escort/1485232_JASMINE_the_CUTE_LITTLE_BRUNETTE_THATS_FUN_w4m.html
And is Sophie on your link. And that was just one five minute google search. Seems TGTBT to me but just a thought.
KG
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/sweet-and-sexy-sophie-513-834-1063/2207354
Has anyone TOFTT on this new ad? Tineye checks out as well as some research.
She is Stephanie on Backpage
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/i-am-stephanie-513-834-1063-i-am-an-eastern-girl-fulfilling-dreams/1900206
and
Jassmine on Zekes Express
http://zekesxpress.org/ads/132/posts/3_Services/1_Escort/1485232_JASMINE_the_CUTE_LITTLE_BRUNETTE_THATS_FUN_w4m.html
And is Sophie on your link. And that was just one five minute google search. Seems TGTBT to me but just a thought.
KG
KG,
Thanks bro.
Bucks
Nkykinkyguy
04-24-10, 16:52
Anytime Bucks. I thought I had seen that number floating around for awhile. Always willing to assit when i can.
KG
KG,
Thanks bro.
Bucks
You're always entitled to Representation. But, like I said, sounds like something just to put behind her, and keep moving to me too.
...
However, where there is no incarceration at risk, a person is not entitled to representation. In those cases, where a person elects to represents herself, you own your own screw ups.
In reality your asking a three judge panel to give you a new trial because you didn't know what you were doing and didn't hire an attorney. Pay the finbe and move on.
Nkykinkyguy
04-25-10, 10:18
Hello All,
I just wanted to take a moment to pass along my sincere gratitude to Harpo for all of the assistance he gave me back when I was a newbie to this board. He never treated me like I was a distraction to him. He was always there with a word of encouragement and accurate referrals for me. Harpo I do thank you and wish I could have given back to you all of the help you gave me. I know that we tend to hobby at different levels but you will always have access to any information at my disposal and if there ever is a need in the future for my support you have it. Just ask.
Since joining this board I have made many close friends and I value them all immensely. You guys already have most of my information so I know you are being kept happy LOL! You also know that you too have my support if needed. You all know who you are and I want you to know that the first round is on me this week. Just be easy on me and stay away from the top self drinks LOL! I do need to visit a lady or two this week LOL!
Even though I will never be able to provide Harpo the kind of assistance that he gave me I have tried to provide the same assistance he gave me to new members here on the board. I do hope that I have been a help to at least some of them.
If we all try and pass along a little of our experience to the new guys I think the board will be a much better place to call monger home.
Again, thanks to all my friends here and a special thanks to Harpo for helping me get started. Sorry if this sounded a little mushy but I do believe that some of the long time Senior members do not get the credit they deserve for making this a great place to meet and interact.
Sincerely,
KG
Harpo was one of the 1st to help me also when I was a newbee. Without his help I probly would still be lost. Ty harpo
Whodeyman
Hello, All,
I just wanted to take a moment to pass along my sincere gratitude to Harpo for all of the assistance he gave me back when I was a newbie to this board. He never treated me like I was a distraction to him. He was always there with a word of encouragement and accurate referrals for me. Harpo I do thank you and wish I could have given back to you all of the help you gave me. I know that we tend to hobby at different levels but you will always have access to any information at my disposal and if there ever is a need in the future for my support you have it. Just ask.
Since joining this board I have made many close friends and I value them all immensely. You guys already have most of my information so I know you are being kept happy LOL! You also know that you too have my support if needed. You all know who you are and I want you to know that the first round is on me this week. Just be easy on me and stay away from the top self drinks LOL! I do need to visit a lady or two this week LOL!
Even though I will never be able to provide Harpo the kind of assistance that he gave me I have tried to provide the same assistance he gave me to new members here on the board. I do hope that I have been a help to at least some of them.
If we all try and pass along a little of our experience to the new guys I think the board will be a much better place to call monger home.
Again, thanks to all my friends here and a special thanks to Harpo for helping me get started. Sorry if this sounded a little mushy but I do believe that some of the long time Senior members do not get the credit they deserve for making this a great place to meet and interact.
Sincerely,
KG
Harpo was one of the 1st to help me also when I was a newbee. Without his help I probly would still be lost. Ty harpo
Whodeyman
Agree that Harpo's willingness to help newbies and seniors is great. I looked back at early PMs and he was always sharing his experience, even with guys that had single digit post counts. Thanks.
Have a great day.
Dz
Wingman Todd
04-25-10, 14:53
Ditto this. I remember late last Spring when I first met Harpo and Whodeyman over dinner and drinks. Comic Whodey put in reservations for three under the name "mongers". The hostess wanted to "escort" us to the table - you can imagine the evening from there!
We all learned invaluable insight from him as nubies. Thanks again Harpo. Damn, this all sounds like cudoes to an obit! Harpo, surface again sometime!!
WingmanTodd
Harpo was one of the 1st to help me also when I was a newbee. Without his help I probly would still be lost. Ty harpo
Whodeyman
Police lie in court all the time. I can almost understand why they do. It ain't always about Justice & Money, but that is a Big Factor, but in order to create an arrest and it makes it to court, it is really in your favor not the Justice System, because it they don't Dot the "I" or cross the "t's", the whole case can be thrown out, police & prosecutor man hours are lost, and Tax Money is lost & wasted.
So cops will Lie their Asses off, and the Judges and prosecutors know this. This is why a decent lawyer is of value, but it cost money and that is why the jails are full of people who are poor. Too poor to afford an attorney.
Most of these crimes don't involve jail time, but jail time comes into play because they either don't show up for court, or never pay the fine.
So if this girl only got a fine, then consider herself lucky. Many times the Police set up SW's so they will do time in the JC, because they need the numbers for the coming new jail, so Uncle Simon can retire.
Even the MOST Honest Cop will lie about things in court because screwing up a court cases could be very bad on his yearly evaluations, and possible future promotions.
So know you better go into court OVERLY PREPARED, and always be prepared for the Worse. Buy yourself an ORC, and keep abreast of the Law, and know your Rights & Privileges.
Say nothing if stopped and totally silent if arrested, and obey the cops as best you can.
Being Polite & Well Mannered, can go a long way, and avoid a ticket or an arrest.
He's been MIA for a minute now. His posts were always filled with good info, truth, and nice pics. Hope everything is alright and LE or the wifey/gf didn't catch up with him.
CletusTheYokel
04-26-10, 13:12
After all the great reports about Mallory, I was very happy when she and I set up a time to meet. She gave the address; we talked on the phone a couple of times. She seemed nice and responsible.
But she flaked. I went out of my way for a no show, no call, no nothing. I'm a busy person, and have to work my schedule to make something happen, so this really pisses me off. I thought I read her as someone who would follow through on this basic thing...but no.
Oh well. My realist side tells me this is part of it. My optimist side tells me that after a couple of no shows I'm due for a pleasant surprise.
Meanwhile, I have a serious unmet need.
Stay real....
Columbus Guy
04-26-10, 21:54
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/look-young-n-sexy-19yrs-im-jenna-wanna-play-call-me-for-the-ultimate-gfepsedaty-19/2211147
Any info on this one?
Anyone who has not used Tineye personally needs to visit the link in this report. It is easier than ever with a browser plug-in. One right click, and you have your results. It is great that a lot of guys on here will do searches to help others out, but this is just too fast and easy not to learn how to fish yourself. And, in case there are any new members who do not know what it is & are too shy to ask, it lets you click on a picture from any web page & see what other sites it is on. While not perfect, it is the first pass in spotting fakes.
Sorry for the long post on a simple topic, but I ran into some posts recently that told me that the word is still not out.
http://www.tineye.com/plugin
Nkykinkyguy
04-27-10, 08:44
I think there are reports here showing scam or self service. Other ads associated with this phone number are as foloows
Shelley
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/19yrs-young-awesome-looks-the-ultimate-girlfriend-experience-w-a-touch-of-class-no-worries-19/2201162
I think scam, others here may have more info
Andrea
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/wanna-play-daddy-im-18yrs-gfe-nice-n-busty-w-a-kick-ass-bod-call-me-18/1889579
No intel that I know of, others here may be read in, I am not.
KG
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/look-young-n-sexy-19yrs-im-jenna-wanna-play-call-me-for-the-ultimate-gfepsedaty-19/2211147
Any info on this one?
Just a heads up for everyone, LE is on a rampage on the highways this afternoon. Saw no less than 4 cars pulled over on my drive home (71N), and more cruisers on the prowl. Looks like it's quota time. Keep your heads on a swivel, at least until the first of the month.
I saw this go down yestrerday. My building has a 6 car detached garage that some use as storage. I saw a "couple" come out of a closed garage after being in there for about 45 min. I was sitting on my patio observing. They chatted for a little while after coming out. She gave him the courtesy hug, then motioned directions to get out of the complex. After he was in his car she proceeded to the garbage with a little white napkin balled up and threw it away. Ths may have been nothing or I may just be wishing there was an escort in my building. She was an OK blonde. I live on the East side off Beechmont if anyone knows who this is. I'm not sure how I would approach her. I thought it was a funny story and it may not be anything.
Talltreeman
04-30-10, 18:48
Kostabi I sent you a PM on this topic.
I saw this go down yestrerday. My building has a 6 car detached garage that some use as storage. I saw a "couple" come out of a closed garage after being in there for about 45 min. I was sitting on my patio observing. They chatted for a little while after coming out. She gave him the courtesy hug, then motioned directions to get out of the complex. After he was in his car she proceeded to the garbage with a little white napkin balled up and threw it away. Ths may have been nothing or I may just be wishing there was an escort in my building. She was an OK blonde. I live on the East side off Beechmont if anyone knows who this is. I'm not sure how I would approach her. I thought it was a funny story and it may not be anything.
Most that fall under the category of "escorts" don't usually do a car date in the apartment complex garage....
Unless of course the guy has a particular wish to relive his HS/College days.
Most that fall under the category of "escorts" don't usually do a car date in the apartment complex garage.
Unless of course the guy has a particular wish to relive his HS/College days.he garage in question was used for storage of extra stuff, like a couch.
No car in the garage, I have not seen the girl again to get a good look at her.
I keep seeing report on Escorts in the General section. There is an Escort section. Why are they not posted there. Jackson designed the General section for general information.
Why Is This Not A Case For Child Abuse:
Yesterday I did to do some cruising just to watch to see what the streets are looking like. According to the post this was one of the better days.
Anyway, I saw one of the regular SW who was prego, and still on the streets tricking. First of all it should worry everyone that she would allowed some dude to have sex with her without a condom. Whether it is a boyfriend, pimp, or whomever, its a pretty good chance she has done this better and for the price of a trick. She should be on everyone's No-Go list.
Now she is still tricking, and still using drugs, and will have this baby on the public's dime, and the baby will be doomed to have countless medical and psychological problems, again on the public's dime, and she is not in jail charged with Child Abuse, Child Endangering, and everything else she can be charged with.
I have no sympathy for women who don't give their children every chance possible to be born healthy. Where are the abortion activist on this cause. They can get there asses off of Auburn Ave., and do some damn good down on the streets where the real problem exist. But they don't want to soil their hand with such women as these. And where are all the church groups.
I have seen Child Welfare prosecute women for far, far less, and they have received jail time. At least in jail she will get the pre-natal care that is needed. I have seen what Street Drugs can do to Babies/Children, and the cost over a lifetime is tremendous. And the tremendous cost is never paid by the parent of the children. Some of the problem with some of the people doing all the killing can be from young men who are crack babies/drugs babies and have serious medical and psychosocial problems.
So if LE is reading this board as we know they do, then help this WSW help herself, along with anyother's, and even more to help the baby(s) she is having. Helping these women on drugs now who are pregnant, can save a lot of crime, time, and money, in the end.
So again, lets make these women be responsible for their action, and prosecute them for their action.
Ky Guy 123
05-02-10, 00:54
he garage in question was used for storage of extra stuff, like a couch.
No car in the garage, I have not seen the girl again to get a good look at her.What about checking out the area a little closer? If it looks like it might be set up to 'entertain', then perhaps she is what you think she is and she's using that as an ancillary hookup spot close to home, but not to where someone can ID her actual apartment? If it truly does look like strictly storage with a spare couch wedged in there, then my guess would be that it might've been an impromptu thing with someone she was into, and not a client meetup.
Just my thoughts on it. :)
Think seriously before you make posts about setting up parties with providers and multiple mongers. If you brag about it in an open forum like this, you are giving a valuable opening to LE. Take a look at what happened in Columbus. The temptation to brag about the activity provides avenues for LE to explore. The more participants, the more likely that "Loose Lips Sink Ships" and someone's boast will inadvertintely let culpitory info drop. While readers of the forum may find reports of group "meetings" titillating, ("Nothing more, and nothing implied..") it is unclear that information provided is of real value except to LE because it documents which mongers are connected to each other.
While we feel a brotherhood with other mongers, and feel like we know them from multiple posts, these kind of parties rarely benefit more than one person, they can cause a world of hurt for others.
My suggestion: if you want to bring multiple mongers together, and TRY to get a provider there (are we surprised she was lost and late?) do it by PM. "Roosters who crow attract the fox."
Giani
[T]here was a small gathering of Senior freinds. Me, Stimulous, Whodeydey and the very late, busty (!) and lost (!) Princess! ... I shall say Princess is a gem, guys! ...Nothing more and nothing implied! Just a great evening of fun, conversation and food! Thanks for being there you guys!
Shall we plan again in May?...
Wingman!
You may be a lucky guy. Talk to her. She let you know if you talk long enough.
I saw this go down yestrerday. My building has a 6 car detached garage that some use as storage. I saw a "couple" come out of a closed garage after being in there for about 45 min. I was sitting on my patio observing. They chatted for a little while after coming out. She gave him the courtesy hug, then motioned directions to get out of the complex. After he was in his car she proceeded to the garbage with a little white napkin balled up and threw it away. Ths may have been nothing or I may just be wishing there was an escort in my building. She was an OK blonde. I live on the East side off Beechmont if anyone knows who this is. I'm not sure how I would approach her. I thought it was a funny story and it may not be anything.
A newbie that from another area pm me these rules. As an old school senior member, I already know these rules/facts, but if a newbie knows them, then every person out there cruising should know them, so I am posting them because he does want it to seem like a newbie is trying to advise senior members. It is good a newbie knows these, and know how to get the intel on the moment/situation.
If he wants he can step up and claim these rules: [/b]
Thought I should provide good intel in hopes that you will spread the word and you asked for it you got it.
I have watched from a distance at least 12 stings go down, enough to know from a distance to push the peddle to the metal and gtfoh.
Here are some but not all the things to watch for FYI le in your area may have different tendencies.
Don't be afraid to pull over a block away and act like you are talking on your cell phone (and move your lips like your talking for crying out loud) and observe what is going on, educate yourself it might keep you out of jail sometime!
1. Most wear sunglasses, how in the f#*k do you make eye contact with a SW wearing sunglasses?
2. Most carry purses, these are mostly ladies with very little means and don't have enough personal belongings to mfill up a purse. They have to have someplace to put the gun and yes decoys are armed I have witnessed them pull them out!
3. Most will stand in one spot. They will usually walk to a given spot and stand or pace back and forth in a well known area for SW. Reason: it is difficult to provide good backup to a mobile decoy.
4. They have a large amount of backup! Parked vans or cars with tinted out windows are a gtfoh flag. Guys parked in vehicles crouched down low. Remember that the real backup is within eye site of the decoy at all times, this kind of operation is very risky for le putting an officer on the street posing as a SW. They got backup and it is obvious unless you are sleeping.
5. Watch for the switch. They will sometimes have a uc pick them up drive around and drop them back off at the same spot to make it seam like they just turned a date. Pretty tricky eh. Or they will quickly drop off one and pick up the other some guys like skinny girls some like um fat.
6. TGTBT is often over stated. Every girl got to the sidewalk for the first time, she looked out of place at first. Use extreme caution and pass the first time, she will be back out another day. Some guys just can't help themselves, sad but true. Just one more time here: never let your guard down.
7. This is the most important thing that is not said enough. If you don"t know her and she isn"t sitting in your car and you are not rolling she is a cop!
8. The lack of marked cars that are usually around in these areas. Remember they want you to let your guard down so they call off the normal dogs to give you a false sense of security.
Giani is right, and if you put yourself out there like that, it is a carrot for LE to try to grab for. And even if they don't catch up to you, it could lead them to some later intel on someplace, something, or someone. This is why I never ever go to these parties/meetings.
Plus you have to understand that the LE will treat this and you as Pimpin and you as a PIMP. The penalties for this will be far worse than trickin itself. And of course they men caught in any situation as well as the women will fold over on you like a falling building.
They have kids and families to provide & protect for, and if giving you up, or rolling over on you will get them out of it or a lesser charge you will be "SCREWED. "
Even if the police drop most of the charges it will still make the newspapers and TV/Radio, and put you in the spotlight for years, and everyone involved.
LE loves those who think of themselves as bold, and will hold a "come get me carrot", in front of them. They will take the bait. They think they are far smarter than you.
And Ofter they are better at crime fighting, than you are at crime making. They do it more.
This is one of the reasons why I had to stop posting for a long while. I was too detailed, and leading LE to my best girls, and their movement. I was making it HARD on myself, and LE started asking about if these SW's knew me, and who I was. That was back when NO SW dared to ever snitch. It was very Dangerous for anyone to Snitch about Anyone. I am talking DANGEROUS, even for myself.
So take heed and understand what you are doing. Keep it very low key. Use PM's, and never do anything at you home/residence, and leave no trail to you.
Even some of the information I know for certain I PM to other Seniors, and they want to post it for me, so LE can never know exactly where that info is coming from, or which Senior most of it is coming from.
It is a game, and I am not Great at it, but I am always trying to be better than I was.
Think seriously before you make posts about setting up parties with providers and multiple mongers. If you brag about it in an open forum like this, you are giving a valuable opening to LE. Take a look at what happened in Columbus. The temptation to brag about the activity provides avenues for LE to explore. The more participants, the more likely that "Loose Lips Sink Ships" and someone's boast will inadvertintely let culpitory info drop. While readers of the forum may find reports of group "meetings" titillating, ("Nothing more, and nothing implied. ") it is unclear that information provided is of real value except to LE because it documents which mongers are connected to each other.
While we feel a brotherhood with other mongers, and feel like we know them from multiple posts, these kind of parties rarely benefit more than one person, they can cause a world of hurt for others.
My suggestion: if you want to bring multiple mongers together, and TRY to get a provider there (are we surprised she was lost and late?) do it by PM. "Roosters who crow attract the fox. "
Giani
Giani is right, and if you put yourself out there like that, it is a carrot for LE to try to grab for. And even if they don't catch up to you, it could lead them to some later intel on someplace, something, or someone. This is why I never ever go to these parties/meetings.
Plus you have to understand that the LE will treat this and you as Pimpin and you as a PIMP. The penalties for this will be far worse than trickin itself. And of course they men caught in any situation as well as the women will fold over on you like a falling building.
They have kids and families to provide & protect for, and if giving you up, or rolling over on you will get them out of it or a lesser charge you will be "SCREWED. "
Even if the police drop most of the charges it will still make the newspapers and TV/Radio, and put you in the spotlight for years, and everyone involved.
LE loves those who think of themselves as bold, and will hold a "come get me carrot", in front of them. They will take the bait. They think they are far smarter than you.
And Ofter they are better at crime fighting, than you are at crime making. They do it more.
This is one of the reasons why I had to stop posting for a long while. I was too detailed, and leading LE to my best girls, and their movement. I was making it HARD on myself, and LE started asking about if these SW's knew me, and who I was. That was back when NO SW dared to ever snitch. It was very Dangerous for anyone to Snitch about Anyone. I am talking DANGEROUS, even for myself.
So take heed and understand what you are doing. Keep it very low key. Use PM's, and never do anything at you home/residence, and leave no trail to you.
Even some of the information I know for certain I PM to other Seniors, and they want to post it for me, so LE can never know exactly where that info is coming from, or which Senior most of it is coming from.
It is a game, and I am not Great at it, but I am always trying to be better than I was.
There is a very fine line that one has to avoid crossing with a meet n greet...
Rule 1) No business transacted at the party not even arranging an appointment for a week down the road.
Rule 2) If the lady is being paid to attend she does nothing beyond a dance like you would have in a very strict club
Rule 3) The ladies and the guys do not talk shop. You can talk about what is read in a public forum, but never discuss prior appointments.
Rule 4) Whenever possible stay in public places. It is very hard to prove something illegal was going on when multiple witnesses can say they saw a group of folks having dinner or drinks.
Rule 5) You never know when someone has been popped and is now playing for the other team, so keep the group small and trusted.
Nkykinkyguy
05-04-10, 09:59
As one that has been to an evening with the "GUYS" I just wanted to add my 2 cents worth (If it is worth that much?). When ever I have attended it has always been drinks and/or dinner in a very public place. I.E. sports bar, average nice restaurant, hotel bar for happy hour etc. This is nothing that 10's of 1000's of people don't do every night.
If and when a lady shows up she is bought a couple of drinks or dinner nothing more intended or implied. As a matter of fact one invitee thought something totally different was on the menu. Upon this information coming to light a phone call was made prior to the dinner just to assure her of what the evening plans were truly consisting of and she was fine, showed up and had a great time. What red blooded American male allows a pretty lady to buy her own drinks and/or dinner when out for the evening regardless of her profession?
The meetings I have been to have never been a public paw and grope session as to invite public scrutiny or LEO suspicion, just the opposite. They have just been like minded people enjoying a relaxing evening in a non work environment. Not really much different than part of an office staff meeting after work. They may be competitive during the work day but enjoy each others company after work.
There has never been any open discussions of pimping, pricing or services provided. Just friendly conversations that occasionally will drift into an adult nature without anyone getting embarrasses about it. But never shop talk as far as I am concerned. Trust me I have been on double dinner dates with couples that are in the swing lifestyle and BDSM lifestyle and those conversations would light your ears up if you were not prepared for it. That doesn’t happen at any of the events I have attended with my friends from here. I do have to qualify that statement by saying that I have not attended all of the events due to work or family commitments. But I can honestly say that anytime I have participated that I have not seen or been involved with anything even close to being considered illegal, risky or even inappropriate.
I have heard of parties that have occurred but have not personally partaken in them where things have been taken to the next level. I would most definitely think that at such a party all involved would have to be extremely comfortable with each other and have a very high level of trust in one another. A very difficult thing to achieve in this hobby I do believe.
I am not trying to disparage or dismiss any of the comments made on the subject by those that have contributed. On the contrary, I think you all have made some great points that everyone (including myself) should take to heart and honestly examine your actions to insure that you are minimizing your risk. I don’t think that anyone should stop doing what makes them happy, just take a honest inventory and make any adjustments you feel are warranted to minimize your risk.
I do sincerely thank you one and all for your time and thoughts. But we also must keep in mind that all of us have our own ideas, comfort levels and method of hobbying that coincide with our own unique set of needs, wants and expectations. Some hobbyist have a much higher (or lower) threshold of risk than others. This doesn’t make them wrong or reckless. It just means they may be more in this for the hunt (i.e. street girls) or super conservative (i.e. Eros girls). Regardless of the risk factor one chooses to challenge or avoid it is imperative for one and all that they take all necessary steps to minimize their risk while maximizing their attempts at quiet enjoyment. LOL!
Once again, thank everyone for their comments as even an old dog like me learned a couple of new things the last couple of days.
Sincerely,
KG
[QUOTE=WarlockKy]There is a very fine line that one has to avoid crossing with a meet n greet...
Lookee here. If you are reading this, and are a mother who feels unappreciated at times, or always, this is for you. I truly wish you a Happy Mother's Day! If you are giving the position, and what a job it is, the best you can give, more than that you cannot do. Happy Mother's Day, Happy Mother's Day, Happy Mother's Day!
Lookee
Delicious Dawn
05-10-10, 04:42
to put something like that for all of the mother's. I for one, appreciate it. I hope a few others found it to be very warming and thoughtful as well.
XOXO,
Dawn
Lookee here. If you are reading this, and are a mother who feels unappreciated at times, or always, this is for you. I truly wish you a Happy Mother's Day! If you are giving the position, and what a job it is, the best you can give, more than that you cannot do. Happy Mother's Day, Happy Mother's Day, Happy Mother's Day!
Lookee
Nekbyter67
05-10-10, 21:32
Wish I had thought of that.
Nekbyter67
05-10-10, 21:53
Sorry everyone screwed up was trying to find out some info and Kat was on my mind. What the H was I thinking.
2 girls keep posting on cl, after an awful 1st try, 2nd try was ok, can talk them down on price! the taller one is way better looking!
Buster1335
06-14-10, 14:01
I know of two girls that work the otr area that go by brandy and Nora and those two are not them. The two I know of are much hotter. Brandy is a cute blond with h sore and she should have just got out of lockup. They to claim to be sisters. I guess this should be a sign not to name our little girls Brandy and Nora.
Happy hunting!
A few months back, cbarton posted some info in the chatlines section about a ripoff he suffered at the hands of a Candy and Brandy. They sounded awfully familiar to me, so I posted at the time....There were some discussions about whether "Candy" and Nora were one in the same after I posted the following report in the SW thread:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=861504&postcount=545
We had assumed at the time that based on description alone that it was in fact her and that I had gotten off lucky that night. Confirming for you now that the picture on the right with the dark hair was indeed the subject of the report in the link.
A few months back, cbarton posted some info in the chatlines section about a ripoff he suffered at the hands of a Candy and Brandy. They sounded awfully familiar to me, so I posted at the time.Brandy was in UPH when I've found her back in July 2008. She is trouble and should be avoided.
Here is my original post back in 2008.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=673360&postcount=913
Brandy is a classic thief and she will cash & dash you and bait & switch every chance she can get. I never dealt with her sister Nora AKA Candy but IMHO she is the same as her sister. STAY AWAY from both of them, the Oliver sisters, and save yourself time and money.
Then in February 2009 a member on the board, I Need It, had contacted Brandy on the Chatline and to say the least he wasn't happy.
Read this post: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=772362&postcount=73
Unbelievable that he got away with his life and not harmed. The above report shows what not to do when meeting someone from the chatlines. There has been other reports telling about guys meeting prospects from the chatlines at UPH to be scammed and threaten with bodily harm at the houses they were told to meet the girls.
One more point I want to make here is that members need to learn to use the Search Tool about SW's and Escorts. This Forum has Tons of invaluable information.
When you want to know about a certain SW or Hooker, click on SEARCH and type in the Key Word(s) her name. Then Select the date from any period of time frame like six months ago and older. Also select Reports in the "Show Results as" selection. Next select the state Ohio and Cincinnati and finally click on Search Now.
You will find plenty of information and probably have to weed out the specific person you are searching about from similar named persons. Also select Reports in the "Show Results as" selection.
I'm tired of seeing people always posting questions like "Anyone has information about so and so" or "What's the 411 on this girl". Do your Search and you'll find just about all the answers to your questions just on this Forum.
Harpo
Mr Boombastic
06-16-10, 12:23
I still go to undercover lock down Parties, with area strippers for the purpose of arrangement right there, and in the future. The price is preset, there is a door cover, and it is BYOB. Often, drinks are sold too. There is always a place to conduct business with ladies, and the main area have live stripping and more going on.
It is never open to the public and if you don't know the person giving it, or from someone well connected, then you won't get in or even an invite.
The place is full of Dope Boyz with rolls of money to burn, so you won't impress the girls with money, because you will always be out-spent everytime. So you better have your conversation skillz very handy. That will get you far, and your ability to pay helps too.
Remember Dope Boyz are quick money to them, so they need folks like us for longterm security, and money, so they will bit when you are fishing. Dope Boyz have so many girlz to do, that most time it is one time and out. So it is a good idea to get decent contact info, and a place to meet at.
The real problem is that these girlz change cell phones so often that they can be hard to let up with, and they tend to be most available when you are not. They can have day jobs and can move from place to place often. So there are many problems to deal with.
The good thing is that they are very Sexz, well built, young over 21y/o, attractive, somewhat money minded, but often not business minded. Often a head full of fake hair, fake nails, and too much mouth, and the cell phone is glued to their hands, it never stops ringing, so you have to demand them to turn it off or be prepared to walk out. This needs to be done before you pay anything. Get your rule known up front and show them that they need you MORE than you need them.
Be firm, tough, and fair!
And No I Will Not Give Anyone Inform On The Parties. I risk loosing my invitations if I do.
There is a very fine line that one has to avoid crossing with a meet and greet.
Rule 1) No business transacted at the party not even arranging an appointment for a week down the road.
Rule 2) If the lady is being paid to attend she does nothing beyond a dance like you would have in a very strict club
Rule 3) The ladies and the guys do not talk shop. You can talk about what is read in a public forum, but never discuss prior appointments.
Rule 4) Whenever possible stay in public places. It is very hard to prove something illegal was going on when multiple witnesses can say they saw a group of folks having dinner or drinks.
Rule 5) You never know when someone has been popped and is now playing for the other team, so keep the group small and trusted.I realize the public nature of the location is considered a safety boost making the event just like the bridge club going out, but this isn't the bridge club. Buyers and sellers of an illegal service are meeting. If the party had no relation to the business, we wouldn't be going. But I'll concede the point for this discussion and acknowledge we'll all be found not guilty at our jury trial. So we win.
WarlockKy correctly points out that everybody must follow the rules the entire time. But not arranging a date is not enough. Hobby talk is a bean spiller. Can you imagine a party of us without hobby talk? People are consuming alcohol for crying out loud. The public location is a double edged sword. Civilians can easily get mixed in with the group without the civilians knowing and without the group knowing. All it takes is one off-the-cuff comment to spill the beans.
Second, I've been to several of these and quite frankly, they don't look right. The men are too old and the women too young and hot. The servers mingle with the group and the group mingles with the bartenders and everybody gets wise pretty quick. If there is music and dancing, the older men thing, the younger women thing, people don't dance like that at a real party.
This would have been bad enough ten years ago, but with all the news and TV shows about the business we all play in, a true civilian would have to be living in a hole to not figure it out.
Finally there's the local TV station getting wise and sending a crew on a slow news night. "Film at 11."
Greetings Gentlemen,
With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you would not use my forum to publicly solicit or exchange information on how to find and/or use my competitor's website(s).
Thanks,
Jackson
Handiman66
06-28-10, 15:56
I would say that is a reasonable request, Jackson...........
Greetings Gentlemen,
With all due respect, I would very much appreciate it if you would not use my forum to publicly solicit or exchange information on how to find and/or use my competitor's website(s).
Thanks,
Jackson
Buster1335
07-07-10, 21:40
This will propounded be posted too late but there is a sting tonight by mlk on mcmick saw the uc doing debrief. So be aware!
Someone might have already posted this but I didn't see it. Zinthos posted this in the Lexington forum and I thought it was pretty funny.
http://www.thesmokinggun.com/archive/years/2010/0406102whitecastle1.html
Extension for Backpage and Nuvo: ?layout=detailed
This extension will append the separate ads so they can be scrolled rather than having to be opened separately.
Extension for Backpage and Nuvo: ?layout=detailed
At this point is looks like we have to add the extension to the URL
Before:
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/
After
http://indianapolis.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/?layout=detailed
Before:
http://indianapolis.nuvo.net/FemaleEscorts/
After:
http://indianapolis.nuvo.net/FemaleEscorts/?layout=detailed
Another public service announcement brought to you by Golfcart.
Somebody figure out what extension will work for Craigslist and get back to me.
My email inbox got filled up with eight notices of this same post about processing Backpage files. I looked, and they were all identical and in the Cincinnati General Reports forum. What is the story? Did anyone else see the same repeat notification of a single new post?
Golfcart: being a seasoned senior, I presume that you did not submit your post eight times (besides, it only appears once on the forum). Was there anything unusual about the process you used to make your post?
JACKSON: If this is a problem on your end, you will want to correct it. It would suck to get eight notices of every post made! So far, this is the only example.
My email inbox got filled up with eight notices of this same post about processing Backpage files. I looked, and they were all identical and in the Cincinnati General Reports forum. What is the story? Did anyone else see the same repeat notification of a single new post?
Golfcart: being a seasoned senior, I presume that you did not submit your post eight times (besides, it only appears once on the forum). Was there anything unusual about the process you used to make your post?
JACKSON: If this is a problem on you end, you will want to correct it. It would suck to get eight notices of every post made! So far, it is the only example.Giani,
I submitted the post a bunch of times. Better that I tell exactly what I did and why so Giani can resolve how he was impacted in a way that was not intended by me and so Jackson can tell me what I did wrong.
I stumbled onto the extension "/?layout=detailed" that when added to the URL of Backpage and Nuvo (but not Craigslist) would allow the reader to append all those separate ads into one long ad so it could be opened only once and scrolled.
I considered the extension very handy and wanted to get it out to the guys in the areas where I focus. My thinking was were I to post it once, for example, in Cincinnati General Reports only, it would be a long time before it got around, and this little tool was handy enough it deserved being "planted" in enough places that it would make its way around faster.
I wanted to plant it in Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky and Tennessee.
In Indiana I put it on Indianapolis and South Bend. Ohio was Cincinnati and Columbus. Kentucky was Louisville and Lexington. Tennessee was only Nashville I think.
Now, because the tool was specific to Backpage and Nuvo, that meant it needed to go on the sub-boards of Backpage and Nuvo in those cities that had those sub-boards. I think I also posted it under General Reports for the city or maybe it was the state. Maybe I did get a little carried away.
P.S. The "thank you" posts have started so I think others will find this as useful as I expected.
P.S. No. 2 I'm advised that on both Backpage and Nuvo, top left under the search box appears "view of ads: full | brief." The default is "brief." Clicking "full" will ad the extension and open one full ad to be scrolled. So I'm afraid this is a Roseann Rosannadanna moment.
That is truly hall-of-fame ignorance. LOLSomeone should send this story to Howard Stern. I think he would definitely think it is show worthy. I mean dude come on! It's like calling 911 to report your drug dealer shorted you on a deal. KNUCKLE HEAD. Would love it if he was a member on here and he came out to explain what the F--- was in his head when he came up with this idea.
OWNED: Teen Robber beat with own gun after trying to rob crossdresser on McMicken
http://www.wlwt.com/news/24244822/detail.html
Mr Boombastic
07-14-10, 06:02
Both Stories need to be sent to the Howard Stern Show.
These stories are priceless, and are Funny as HELL.
I am telling you ALL, leave those Fags alone, because regardless of what they are still men with a man's strength.
I have to remind many of the female SW's of that, when they get mad at the Fags for invading their areas.
I tell them to just move and leave them alone, and try not to piss them off.
They have some serious mental & drug problems too.
As for the W. C. Man that is a matter of genetics. He had to be born Stupid, in order to be that Stupid.
OWNED: Teen Robber beat with own gun after trying to rob crossdresser on McMicken
http://www.wlwt.com/news/24244822/detail.html
OWNED: Teen Robber beat with own gun after trying to rob crossdresser on McMicken
http://www.wlwt.com/news/24244822/detail.htmlPretty good one, but the other guy should win one of the Darwin Awards they give out every year.
SimonPieMan
07-23-10, 13:00
My travels took me down Fifth Street headed East and I notice the Mobile Command Center for the city's finest parked in front of Sak's. And of course, The Hyatt and The Millenium Hotels are on the same block. Just sayin.
Mr Boombastic
07-24-10, 13:12
Your PM is FULL, and I can't respond to recent, your PM.
I have noticed a lot of people getting busted for this lately without a solicitation charge. I wonder what exactly is required for this in the state of Ohio. Anyone know?
Whenever you see these types of BS charges, it is an attempt to humiliate the person charged. LE can pretty much charge you with a lot of vague charges that will most likely be thrown out, but not before your name has been attached and then most will assume that it is true. It is a frustration ploy and only used to intimidate. If you want an exacting definition contact an attorney or two or three and they will each put a slightly different spin on it. It is in all of our best interests to fight this kind of crap. This type of power is corrupt and nefarious, and we all need to insure that it does not continue. Of course as always, this is just my opinion.
I have noticed a lot of people getting busted for this lately without a solicitation charge. I wonder what exactly is required for this in the state of Ohio. Anyone know?
Havingphun
07-26-10, 10:21
I have noticed a lot of people getting busted for this lately without a solicitation charge. I wonder what exactly is required for this in the state of Ohio. Anyone know?There is a great summary of all (most?) of the prostitution related laws of Ohio at: http://prostitution.procon.org/view.background-resource.php?resourceID=756 For reference though, the answer to your question is:
§ 2907.241: Loitering to engage in solicitation; solicitation after positive HIV test
(A) No person, with purpose to solicit another to engage in sexual activity for hire and while in or near a public place, shall do any of the following:
(1) Beckon to, stop, or attempt to stop another;
(2) Engage or attempt to engage another in conversation;
(3) Stop or attempt to stop the operator of a vehicle or approach a stationary vehicle;
4) If the offender is the operator of or a passenger in a vehicle, stop, attempt to stop, beckon to, attempt to beckon to, or entice another to approach or enter the vehicle of which the offender is the operator or in which the offender is the passenger;
(5) Interfere with the free passage of another.
<snipped section b, related to prostitution with HIV>
(C) As used in this section:
(1) "Vehicle" has the same meaning as in section 4501.01 of the Revised Code.
(2) "Public place" means any of the following:
(a) A street, road, highway, thoroughfare, bikeway, walkway, sidewalk, bridge, alley, alleyway, plaza, park, driveway, parking lot, or transportation facility;
(b) A doorway or entrance way to a building that fronts on a place described in division (C)(2)(a) of this section;
(c) A place not described in division (C)(2)(a) or (b) of this section that is open to the public.
(D)
(1) Whoever violates division (A) of this section is guilty of loitering to engage in solicitation, a misdemeanor of the third degree.
<snipped clause 2, related to division B above>So, as you see, the law is open to a lot of interpretation and judgement on the behalf of the arresting officer, as the officer is responsible for determining the *purpose* of activities which would otherwise be legal.
Jay Malibu
07-26-10, 10:35
They've got to look like they're cleaning up before the casinos are built. We're quickly getting to a point where everything needs to be legal and taxed. Pretty soon Nevada will need to allow brothels in Reno and Las Vegas in order to survive. It's amazing what happens to those with a stick up their ass when they can't afford to live.
Should have put my post here instead of Massage section.
Here is a copy of that post.
HereMissy in Mason now new name
Just saw an ad for a new name but I saw her in the blue outfit called Missy in Mason, You can check out my past post. rate 2 then ask for tip, nude dance then self service. Would never repeat, googled phone # it is the same one I went to.
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/cas/1871868031.html
good luck and happy hunting
Nkykinkyguy
08-03-10, 09:32
I know this may cause a few of the senior members to blow a gasket but I will throw this against the wall and see if it sticks.
Why don't all of the senior members go to the rip-off thread and post their past rip-off experiences over the next week or so.
This will give the newbies an easier way to learn from our previous mistakes (Some of the current threads are getting rather long) and give the rest of us a chance to maybe have a chuckle or two at ourselves as we take a walk down memory lane. LOL!
Sound off on your thoughts guys.
KG
P.S. I will get the ball rolling.
Wingman Todd
08-03-10, 09:40
Great idea! I think I have still have some old posts on TER from when I first started .... (and where we first met) ...... that I will find and post on the rip-off thread. Yes, we all have had our share of mistakes. I know Whodey has had his share as well!
WM
I know this may cause a few of the senior members to blow a gasket but I will throw this against the wall and see if it sticks.
Why don't all of the senior members go to the rip-off thread and post their past rip-off experiences over the next week or so.
This will give the newbies an easier way to learn from our previous mistakes (Some of the current threads are getting rather long) and give the rest of us a chance to maybe have a chuckle or two at ourselves as we take a walk down memory lane. LOL!
Sound off on you thoughts guys.
KG
P.S. I will get the ball rolling.
Nkykinkyguy
08-03-10, 15:18
I am passing along information that I am not 100% sure is accurate but based upon a PM I received I think it is correct. Veronica/Mary I hope you rest in peace my dear, you will be missed. It was a pleasure to spend time with you.
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/08/02/1374213/fleming-county-crash-kills-mays.html
Like I said I am not 100% sure but I think this is what happened to VeronicaG.
KG
Easton 1269
08-03-10, 18:22
I know this may cause a few of the senior members to blow a gasket but I will throw this against the wall and see if it sticks.
Why don't all of the senior members go to the rip-off thread and post their past rip-off experiences over the next week or so.
This will give the newbies an easier way to learn from our previous mistakes (Some of the current threads are getting rather long) and give the rest of us a chance to maybe have a chuckle or two at ourselves as we take a walk down memory lane. LOL!
Sound off on you thoughts guys.
KG
P.S. I will get the ball rolling.I love you man! But not in that, you know, George Michael WHAM! kinda way. Like the chest bump after Bengals win. Just sayin'.
Member #3974
08-03-10, 18:28
First off I don't care your reasons to bash me to providers, I don't care what you gained. If you want to fucking be a fucking kid then do it, just leave me out of it. I don't play games, I don't bash anyone undeservedly, and I certainly don't spread dumbshit rumors either. I have ideas who you are, but it isn't confirmed yet. So you shall stay anonymous for the time being. It is painfully obvious, whomever you are that you are jealous, of my whit, charm, good looks, big cock and intelligence. If you want to be the cool person then do it, I don't care, just leave me out of it, unless you secretly love me and want to keep me all to yourself, which could be hot, or really weird. So in closing, you are a fucking idiot with no life outside of this and you are a poor excuse for a human being. There is plenty to go around and from now on if anyone hears anything about me, like I'm an asshole, or I have crabs, or my dick is small, or I am a retard, please contact me for clarification and pics. LOL Rot in hell you fucking jackoff. Oh yeah sorry for all the cursing, but hey it's me so fuck off.
Happy hunting brothers!
Nkykinkyguy
08-04-10, 07:38
Back at you guy but I am not a Bengals supporter. Some of their fans are just vile people. But will always chest bump a UK VICTORY LOL!.
I love you man! But not in that, you know, George Michael WHAM! kinda way. Like the chest bump after Bengals win. Just sayin'.
Nkykinkyguy
08-04-10, 07:52
Damn you seem aweful proud of your appendage dude. You and I are good friends and are currently in the same situation but damn man nobody cares about the size of your weenie LOL! Except maybe you and the vile scum spreading things about us behind our backs. Maybe he is in love with your weenie and is jealous of our Bengals Chest Bumping like friendship (Thank you very much for that analogy Easton) but this scum isn't worth the time we are spending on him. The list has been narrowed down and he will surface with time and when he does I will out him like the closet queen he is. Vengence is a dish best served cold my friend and when that cold dish hits it will be a rude awakening to all of those who thought they knew him.
KG
Look at that not one F bomb in the whole post. Who would have thunk it. LOL!
First off I don't care your reasons to bash me to providers, I don't care what you gained. If you want to fucking be a fucking kid then do it, just leave me out of it. I don't play games, I don't bash anyone undeservedly, and I certainly don't spread dumbshit rumors either. I have ideas who you are, but it isn't confirmed yet. So you shall stay anonymous for the time being. It is painfully obvious, whomever you are that you are jealous, of my whit, charm, good looks, big cock and intelligence. If you want to be the cool person then do it, I don't care, just leave me out of it, unless you secretly love me and want to keep me all to yourself, which could be hot, or really weird. So in closing, you are a fucking idiot with no life outside of this and you are a poor excuse for a human being. There is plenty to go around and from now on if anyone hears anything about me, like I'm an asshole, or I have crabs, or my dick is small, or I am a retard, please contact me for clarification and pics. LOL Rot in hell you fucking jackoff. Oh yeah sorry for all the cursing, but hey it's me so fuck off.
Happy hunting brothers!
It is painfully obvious, whomever you are that you are jealous, of my whit, charm, good looks, big cock and intelligence...
Yes, I'm incredibly jealous of all the above. But it wasn't me.
But I know you know that.
Having met you, I can say yes, I am definitely jealous. And I'm even more jealous of your humility and modesty.
Closed circuit to the ladies: If you're looking for someone with the wit of Adam Sandler, the charm of Antonio Banderas, the looks of Brad Pitt, the weiner of Mr. Ed, and the intelligence of Einstein then he's your man. You believe me don't you?
Nkykinkyguy
08-04-10, 17:19
Damn Stim, we are never going to be able to live with him now after your man crush fillabuster. You owe me at least a beer or two for the pain you have just put me through. LOL!
KG
Yes, I'm incredibly jealous of all the above. But it wasn't me.
But I know you know that.
Having met you, I can say yes, I am definitely jealous. And I'm even more jealous of your humility and modesty.
Closed circuit to the ladies: If you're looking for someone with the wit of Adam Sandler, the charm of Antonio Banderas, the looks of Brad Pitt, the weiner of Mr. Ed, and the intelligence of Einstein then he's your man. You believe me don't you?
Member #3974
08-04-10, 17:19
Stimulus you roll me, thanks for makin me laugh bro. And i will apologize for using such harsh words and descriptions.
Yes, I'm incredibly jealous of all the above. But it wasn't me.
But I know you know that.
Having met you, I can say yes, I am definitely jealous. And I'm even more jealous of your humility and modesty.
Closed circuit to the ladies: If you're looking for someone with the wit of Adam Sandler, the charm of Antonio Banderas, the looks of Brad Pitt, the weiner of Mr. Ed, and the intelligence of Einstein then he's your man. You believe me don't you?
Wingman Todd
08-04-10, 20:50
Hey Stim,
You two go get a room already! LOL
WM
Yes, I'm incredibly jealous of all the above. But it wasn't me.
But I know you know that.
Having met you, I can say yes, I am definitely jealous. And I'm even more jealous of your humility and modesty.
Closed circuit to the ladies: If you're looking for someone with the wit of Adam Sandler, the charm of Antonio Banderas, the looks of Brad Pitt, the weiner of Mr. Ed, and the intelligence of Einstein then he's your man. You believe me don't you?
Damn Stim, we are never going to be able to live with him now after your man crush fillabuster. You owe me at least a beer or two for the pain you have just put me through. LOL!
KG
It's not really a man crush. It's more like a admire him. You know, the way a little kid admires Mickey Mantle. It's like when I grow up I want to be just like him.
Except, well, I'm older than him.
Which may be a problem.
Seriously, I spent few hours with him this past week and he's an alright guy in my book.
We've also slept with a few of the same women.
Not at the same time though. That would be too weird.
Hey Stim,
You two go get a room already! LOL
WMHey, I'm just reporting what I hear from the ladies. I think he has his own fan club.
As a matter of fact, it seems like every time I get one of them to the big "O" she starts screaming out his name. Even the ones who have never met him.
God! Enough Stim!
He is going to be so puffed up by all of your praise that he won't be able to fit into the cab of his truck! It may not even fit in the mixer behind the cab!
I agree that Assman is a great guy, but geez, does HE have to know it?!? Crap, now I've gone and told him too! Fortheloveofpete.
JR
Hey, I'm just reporting what I hear from the ladies. I think he has his own fan club.
As a matter of fact, it seems like every time I get one of them to the big "O" she starts screaming out his name. Even the ones who have never met him.
Wingman Todd
08-04-10, 22:13
Stimulus,
Too funny! I'll PM you when Dayne is back in town so you, little Stimulus and Princess can prepare. Though it will be several days after the fact!!
Hey, I'm just reporting what I hear from the ladies. I think he has his own fan club.
As a matter of fact, it seems like every time I get one of them to the big "O" she starts screaming out his name. Even the ones who have never met him.
Hey, I'm just reporting what I hear from the ladies. I think he has his own fan club.
As a matter of fact, it seems like every time I get one of them to the big "O" she starts screaming out his name. Even the ones who have never met him.I think Stimulus has given us enough clues that I finally understand. He has been trying to tell us that Sincy Assman's true identity in life is "The Most Interesting Man In the World" from the Dos Equis' beer commercials.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dos+Equis%27&aq=f
Now it all makes sense.
no more than a personal shout out to another member instead of posting this in the open forum?
Between the inevitable drama that always creeps up and then all the dick suckin' that goes on afterward once everyone has made up - it makes it very difficult to research anything here. I will be the first to admit some of it is funny stuff... until I have the need to confirm a recent report and can't even find it because I have to wade through way too much BS!
We flame newbies for asking questions and tell them to RTFF. Maybe we all need to do a better job and make sure that there is something here of substance for them to read. If I was new and read through the last few days worth of posts I too would give up on RTFF and just ask my "dumb newbie question".
I like what was proposed about updating the Rip Off thread. This is a move in the right direction. Makes for a good resource for all of us when the rip offs are contained in a single thread instead of spread out the way they have been. It won't save everyone because as you all know their MO, names, phones change more often than their panties for some, but it is a great starting reference for someone needing help on who NOT to see.
We just need more ideas along those lines that make the forum worthwhile and easy to use. If posted comments are an inside joke directed at specific individuals perhaps that info is best shared via a PM. Otherwise we all start riffing off of one another's material and soon the intell gets lost in between the riffs. Maybe a "shout out" thread could be helpful for those times that my need for reading good comedy supercedes my need for good pussy. Just a thought.
And now that I have stepped down from my soap box... since I couldn't find the report on my own, what's the scoop here:
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/cute-and-young-10000-in-call-specials-18/5551443
I seem to recall a positive experience posted by one of you that also included a name for her, but I'll be damned if I can find it.
Her name is Brittany, she now is called Tiffany (Tasty Tiffany). She is cute, a little chunky. She is GFE and pretty good at what she does. I enjoyed my time with her. I know she has had a rough go of late, but I think she is worth a visit. Give her a call, she was great for me, I haven't been able to see her lately, of course YMMV.
no more than a personal shout out to another member instead of posting this in the open forum?
Between the inevitable drama that always creeps up and then all the dick suckin' that goes on afterward once everyone has made up. It makes it very difficult to research anything here. I will be the first to admit some of it is funny stuff. Until I have the need to confirm a recent report and can't even find it because I have to wade through way too much BS!
We flame newbies for asking questions and tell them to RTFF. Maybe we all need to do a better job and make sure that there is something here of substance for them to read. If I was new and read through the last few days worth of posts I too would give up on RTFF and just ask my "dumb newbie question".
I like what was proposed about updating the Rip Off thread. This is a move in the right direction. Makes for a good resource for all of us when the rip offs are contained in a single thread instead of spread out the way they have been. It won't save everyone because as you all know their MO, names, phones change more often than their panties for some, but it is a great starting reference for someone needing help on who NOT to C.
We just need more ideas along those lines that make the forum worthwhile and easy to use. If posted comments are an inside joke directed at specific individuals perhaps that info is best shared via a PM. Otherwise we all start riffing off of one another's material and soon the intell gets lost in between the riffs. Maybe a "shout out" thread could be helpful for those times that my need for reading good comedy supercedes my need for good pussy. Just a thought.
And now that I have stepped down from my soap box. Since I couldn't find the report on my own, what's the scoop here:
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/cute-and-young-10000-in-call-specials-18/5551443
I seem to recall a positive experience posted by one of you that also included a name for her, but I'll be damned if I can find it.
Member #3974
08-05-10, 05:32
First off Ray that is hilarious, secondly Stimulus I think Todd is getting jealous. I think he has a secret man crush, but I will shoot him down like I did whodeyman and nkykinky. (Had to fit you in there somewhere kyjellyguy)
I think Stimulus has given us enough clues that I finally understand. He has been trying to tell us that Sincy Assman's true identity in life is "The Most Interesting Man In the World" from the Dos Equis' beer commercials.
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Dos+Equis%27&aq=f
Now it all makes sense.
Marmon1913
08-05-10, 06:54
no more than a personal shout out to another member instead of posting this in the open forum?
Between the inevitable drama that always creeps up and then all the dick suckin' that goes on afterward once everyone has made up - it makes it very difficult to research anything here. I will be the first to admit some of it is funny stuff... until I have the need to confirm a recent report and can't even find it because I have to wade through way too much BS!
We flame newbies for asking questions and tell them to RTFF. Maybe we all need to do a better job and make sure that there is something here of substance for them to read. If I was new and read through the last few days worth of posts I too would give up on RTFF and just ask my "dumb newbie question".
I like what was proposed about updating the Rip Off thread. This is a move in the right direction. Makes for a good resource for all of us when the rip offs are contained in a single thread instead of spread out the way they have been. It won't save everyone because as you all know their MO, names, phones change more often than their panties for some, but it is a great starting reference for someone needing help on who NOT to see.
We just need more ideas along those lines that make the forum worthwhile and easy to use. If posted comments are an inside joke directed at specific individuals perhaps that info is best shared via a PM. Otherwise we all start riffing off of one another's material and soon the intell gets lost in between the riffs. Maybe a "shout out" thread could be helpful for those times that my need for reading good comedy supercedes my need for good pussy. Just a thought.
And now that I have stepped down from my soap box... since I couldn't find the report on my own, what's the scoop here:
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/cute-and-young-10000-in-call-specials-18/5551443
I seem to recall a positive experience posted by one of you that also included a name for her, but I'll be damned if I can find it.This is cincygirl2009 listed on e.com AKA Tiffany her reviews are all good.
Hope this helps you out
Jay Malibu
08-05-10, 07:32
no more than a personal shout out to another member instead of posting this in the open forum?
Between the inevitable drama that always creeps up and then all the dick suckin' that goes on afterward once everyone has made up. It makes it very difficult to research anything here. I will be the first to admit some of it is funny stuff. Until I have the need to confirm a recent report and can't even find it because I have to wade through way too much BS!
We flame newbies for asking questions and tell them to RTFF. Maybe we all need to do a better job and make sure that there is something here of substance for them to read. If I was new and read through the last few days worth of posts I too would give up on RTFF and just ask my "dumb newbie question".
I like what was proposed about updating the Rip Off thread. This is a move in the right direction. Makes for a good resource for all of us when the rip offs are contained in a single thread instead of spread out the way they have been. It won't save everyone because as you all know their MO, names, phones change more often than their panties for some, but it is a great starting reference for someone needing help on who NOT to C.
We just need more ideas along those lines that make the forum worthwhile and easy to use. If posted comments are an inside joke directed at specific individuals perhaps that info is best shared via a PM. Otherwise we all start riffing off of one another's material and soon the intell gets lost in between the riffs. Maybe a "shout out" thread could be helpful for those times that my need for reading good comedy supercedes my need for good pussy. Just a thought.
And now that I have stepped down from my soap box. Since I couldn't find the report on my own, what's the scoop here:
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/cute-and-young-10000-in-call-specials-18/5551443
I seem to recall a positive experience posted by one of you that also included a name for her, but I'll be damned if I can find it.She also calls herself Tasty Tiffany in her dialog on e dot com. All her reviews are pretty good.
Initially I was going to write (respectfully) to lighten up. However after finishing your post, I could see that you appreciated the humour that has crept in here and that you had a very good point! I can certainly see how all of the "personal" posts are cluttering up the threads.
I'm not sure that PM's are the ONLY way to go in this case. I do enjoy the riffing and stories and fun. I agree that the drama should be kept to a minimum. It won't go away, I'm afraid. However, if it all went to PM's it would be harder to share with a group of people, since you are limited to 10 people in a PM. Some who might appreciate the fun, might not get included.
I thought about proposing a thread for "Riffing" or "Shout Outs" myself. I'm not sure that the "General" thread we are in is a bad choice for this, since I think it too has been underutilized like the Rip Off thread, but a separate thread might be more appropriate for private/public conversations.
Just adding my thoughts to yours.
I have also given some big kudos to Nkykinkyguy for his suggestion about filling the Rip Off thread with info. It will make for a great place to start our research! Everyone check it out and add your own info! We all have helpful stories, I'm sure.
BTW, even though it is a "shout out". I loved your comment about changing MO's and names more often than panties. That gave me a good chuckle.
Regarding your request for info:
Based on the email addy, it looks like she created it "recently" sexyandsweet2010 at gmail
Also, unless she just had her birthday, her age changed on one of the three other ads posted by her.
The phone number is the same one being used by Brittany / Tasty Tiffany with the email addy of cutecincygirl2010 at gmail (thank you Google for the phone number search)
It is difficult to tell with the butterfly over her face, but I think it is the same girl (Tiffany, I mean).
I saw her when she was going by Brittany for a massage and HE. Massage was ok, HE was good. She has gone on to become Tasty Tiffany and is offering a F/S menu now (she wasn't when I saw her, she was working with Katrina at the time). That should help point you in the direction of what to search for in the way of reviews. I think there were some good reports and some mediocre reports, as I recall.
Don't know about the lack of the "Tasty Tiffany" name on the ads or the email change, though. Not sure what that is about.
Hope that helps.
JR
no more than a personal shout out to another member instead of posting this in the open forum?
Between the inevitable drama tha♦t always creeps up and then all the dick suckin' that goes on afterward once everyone has made up - it makes it very difficult to research anything here. I will be the first to admit some of it is funny stuff... until I have the need to confirm a recent report and can't even find it because I have to wade through way too much BS!
We flame newbies for asking questions and tell them to RTFF. Maybe we all need to do a better job and make sure that there is something here of substance for them to read. If I was new and read through the last few days worth of posts I too would give up on RTFF and just ask my "dumb newbie question".
I like what was proposed about updating the Rip Off thread. This is a move in the right direction. Makes for a good resource for all of us when the rip offs are contained in a single thread instead of spread out the way they have been. It won't save everyone because as you all know their MO, names, phones change more often than their panties for some, but it is a great starting reference for someone needing help on who NOT to see.
We just need more ideas along those lines that make the forum worthwhile and easy to use. If posted comments are an inside joke directed at specific individuals perhaps that info is best shared via a PM. Otherwise we all start riffing off of one another's material and soon the intell gets lost in between the riffs. Maybe a "shout out" thread could be helpful for those times that my need for reading good comedy supercedes my need for good pussy. Just a thought.
And now that I have stepped down from my soap box... since I couldn't find the report on my own, what's the scoop here:
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/cute-and-young-10000-in-call-specials-18/5551443
I seem to recall a positive experience posted by one of you that also included a name for her, but I'll be damned if I can find it.
Easton 1269
08-05-10, 12:03
It's not really a man crush. It's more like a admire him. You know, the way a little kid admires Mickey Mantle. It's like when I grow up I want to be just like him.
Except, well, I'm older than him.
Which may be a problem.
Seriously, I spent few hours with him this past week and he's an alright guy in my book.
We've also slept with a few of the same women.
Not at the same time though. That would be too weird.But you did go to the bathroom together. Otherwise you wouldn't know the Mr. Ed part. Hey, you couldn't just stare at the wall, could you? LOL!
I am passing along information that I am not 100% sure is accurate but based upon a PM I received I think it is correct. Veronica/Mary I hope you rest in peace my dear, you will be missed. It was a pleasure to spend time with you.
http://www.kentucky.com/2010/08/02/1374213/fleming-county-crash-kills-mays.html
Like I said I am not 100% sure but I think this is what happened to VeronicaG.
KGKG,
You'd be right. Her visitation was last night in Morehead, Ky and was very nice. I have the link to the Funeral home which has a video with pics of her life etc. I don't think it is proper out of respect for her family to post the link here. But if you pm me i'll give you the link. She had a good visitation. I knew Mary/Veronica in a professional and as a friend. She will be missed and was a very kind and good woman.
Moose
Initially I was going to write (respectfully) to lighten up. However after finishing your post, I could see that you appreciated the humour that has crept in here and that you had a very good point! I can certainly see how all of the "personal" posts are cluttering up the threads.
I'm not sure that PM's are the ONLY way to go in this case. I do enjoy the riffing and stories and fun. I agree that the drama should be kept to a minimum. It won't go away, I'm afraid. However, if it all went to PM's it would be harder to share with a group of people, since you are limited to 10 people in a PM. Some who might appreciate the fun, might not get included.
I thought about proposing a thread for "Riffing" or "Shout Outs" myself. I'm not sure that the "General" thread we are in is a bad choice for thisLookee here. Since I am not sure when a post crosses the line from "shout out" to something perceived as useful information, my recent posts may have offended some. If that is the case with you, the reader, I apologize. As a fairly infrequent poster, I think I do always ask myself if what I am about to post is useful to anyone, and do try to keep things light. As a past slandering victim, this topic is one that is important to me and, obviously, those in the middle of it now. So, if our posts may not appeal to the mass audience of readers, but the slandering asshole(s) read(s) them(and I'm sure they do), then they are useful, in my opinion. It possibly makes them feel a bit uneasy about this behavior, since we are supposed to be watching out for each other, not sabotaging each other. My slanderer's activity 100% backfired on him, as it was the providers I was contacting who gave me the info about what was said about me and by whom, and I continue to be on good terms with these providers. Even though that was the story with me, the slandering does not piss me off any less, and perhaps if, and when, it happens to you(the reader), these posts of support for victims might make more sense. Thanks for reading, and feel free to block posts from anyone you choose.
Lookee
I'm not sure that PM's are the ONLY way to go in this case. I enjoy the riffing and stories and fun....
JR
First off, thanks to all that posted or PM'd the info on CincyGirl/Tasty Tiffany. I knew that I had seen the pic before but the use of a different email addy is what was not clicking for me.
I was just pissed because I wanted to make that call last night but needed to reduce my risk before setting something up. I just knew that my info on Tasty was not tooo far back in the posting history and I wasn't finding quickly what I knew to be out there. Having no name from her ad to aid me in doing a search blew that option.
Secondly, I agree that PM's are not the ONLY way to go. While mad last night about the moment being right and missing an opportunity, I did try to stress that there is some hilarious stuff that you guys post. Some of you could be writing for sit coms if the reality tv scene ever gives way to scripted comedy again. I too would miss reading those kinds of posts, BUT DONT LIKE IT WHEN IT INTERFERES WITH THE RESEARCH!
Not certain about the original intent for the "General" thread but perhaps that should be the place for this type of banter. Between "Street Walker", "Escorts", "Massage", etc... we pretty much have covered the various categories of service providers and maybe can keep those threads reserved for the factual information.
Didn't intend to be an A-hole with that last post. Just looking for ways to enhance the over-all user experience on the site and trying to keep in mind the newbie perspective.
Way too much bullshit to sift through.
Saw ur boo a few weeks ago and she has told me she will be available again this weekend and I will most definately see her again sat and sun. She is a amazing woman. Excellent oral skill and absolutely loves greek. She is a little on the thick side but WOW the things she can do. She is a little shy at first but once things get going OMG its amazing.
Hey Ceenote!
Sorry if my post implied that I thought you were being a jerk or a-hole. Definitely not intended.
I totally agree that the ultimate point of this forum is to provide information about good providers and rip offs. We are here to help our brothers! If the extraneous conversations are interfering with that, then they need to be moved elsewhere or kept to a minimum if they remain inline with the regular reports. My point was that this forum is ALSO about camaraderie and as a result, conversations, humor, etc. should be part of the package, not just kept in PM's. From your post (quoted below), I think you agree with that point.
I would also like to echo Lookee's post below (read it if you haven't). The controversy between Assman and Callie was informative and relevant even if everyone (including me) felt that they had to add their commentary. The "drama" that ensued may have obscured the fact that there was an issue of concern going on, as well.
I am glad that Assman and Callie have been able to resolve THEIR issues amicably. So, 'nuff said on that. I just wanted to point out that at the heart of some of the drama, there might be a real issue that may concern more than just the parties involved.
I think our goal should always be to strive to improve the experience here on this forum. And, to help out each other (newbie or seasoned veteran).
If anyone ever has a problem with any of my posts, I welcome the feedback. PM me and tell me so!
JR
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First off, thanks to all that posted or PM'd the info on CincyGirl/Tasty Tiffany. I knew that I had seen the pic before but the use of a different email addy is what was not clicking for me.
I was just pissed because I wanted to make that call last night but needed to reduce my risk before setting something up. I just knew that my info on Tasty was not tooo far back in the posting history and I wasn't finding quickly what I knew to be out there. Having no name from her ad to aid me in doing a search blew that option.
Secondly, I agree that PM's are not the ONLY way to go. While mad last night about the moment being right and missing an opportunity, I did try to stress that there is some hilarious stuff that you guys post. Some of you could be writing for sit coms if the reality tv scene ever gives way to scripted comedy again. I too would miss reading those kinds of posts, BUT DONT LIKE IT WHEN IT INTERFERES WITH THE RESEARCH!
Not certain about the original intent for the "General" thread but perhaps that should be the place for this type of banter. Between "Street Walker", "Escorts", "Massage", etc... we pretty much have covered the various categories of service providers and maybe can keep those threads reserved for the factual information.
Didn't intend to be an A-hole with that last post. Just looking for ways to enhance the over-all user experience on the site and trying to keep in mind the newbie perspective.
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/looking-forward-to-meeting-you/5564090
She showed up about a month ago posting that she was back home for the summer and looking to reconnect with her old clients.
Looks good so anybody have any info?
Ky Guy 123
08-06-10, 19:16
Well, she posted in Cinci and Cleveland that she was 'Back for the Summer' both on June 16th on BP, so that distance trying to schedule simultaneously would give me pause. Otherwise, she keeps the same name and # on both CL and BP, and it seems like it COULD be legit. Might have to call the # and do some spelunking possibly on this one. :)
Also, on here, the ad was brought up in June by Brummdogg, without anyone having anything else to contribute. Right after that was when the 'How much are the rims' fun was had so it might've been forgotten a smite.
Jay
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/looking-forward-to-meeting-you/5564090
She showed up about a month ago posting that she was back home for the summer and looking to reconnect with her old clients.
Looks good so anybody have any info?
Mr Boombastic
08-09-10, 12:57
I was dropping off one of my P/T lady's at about 5am, and was at the corner of Linn & Central Pkwy about to turn left on to Linn street and just after I turned there rung out about 5 rapid gun shots. I immediately turned onto the Central Ave, road thinking people were shooting at each other..
Then I heard about 1 minute later a second set of 3-4 shoots. We had pulled over not know if these shot are coming from moving cars, or what. We figured the shoot were coming from Central Pkwy & Stark. We then drove away from the spot and after a conversation circled around to see who got shot. I know "WHY", but we did!
No one was shot, and the gunman was gone. No one was around, and after 15 minutes of circling "No Police". We then parked at a spot and waited and after about 40 minutes NOT ONE COP. The shoot sounded louder than a 9mm, and sounded like a 45cal going off. It was VERY LOUD. I have seen police at a shooting within minutes where no one was shot, and they came in mass. Interesting.
It is getting to the point where the streets are getting a little crazy, and extra Caution needs to be taken, and you need to know to keep aware of the drug boyz locations since they all hung at the same locations. Avoid dropping your SW at the D/B locations. Drop her off a 2 block away and let her walk. Many times these SW owe the D/B's money, so sometimes they don't pay them back as they are suppose to, and these boyz want their money.
I t was dangerous, but rather exciting. Actually it was very stimulating, and we decided to do a quickie on a side street, with a lot of intense foreplay. It was wilder then then at the NoTel place.
Anyway, that is just my "Watch Your Back Warning", and to understand why some of us like the streets and other won't/can't take the excitement of how the streets can be at times.
More Later, As I Learn More Details, My Spies Are Out!
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Member #4193
08-09-10, 14:53
Just saw these girls.
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/mia-and-nicole-2-cute-little-brunettes-and-unbeatable-rates-22/5500026
Not too shabby. Reasonable price and were legit.
Will see again!
Caligulaxxx
08-09-10, 16:53
Just a heads up to my fellow mongers in Cincinnati. Sweet lil petite Britney appears to be in the Cincinnati area.
If you get the chance, do your self the favor of getting in contact with her. She will screen you so have your ducks in a row.
One of the best.
Im in Columbus where she is based out of.
10 out of a 10 on all accounts.
Caligulaxxx
08-09-10, 16:59
A budy of mine down in Cincinnati who is a well known pleaser of women seems to have slipped into the mindset where upon he is not seeing any providers any more, so he emails me. Says he met a former that is funner than any. Stingy young bastard will not share her name though!
So, I figure on getting him back a little here. Just friendly stuff you know.
I think he might be tempted on that there Petite Britney.
So gents, if in ya see her, let it be known just how fine she is.
Mr Boombastic
08-10-10, 13:11
I was looking at Skyy John and he talked about Larry Fishburne's daughter doing a Sex Video. She is only 19yrs/o, and is kinda a tight piece of ass. She made it with a real porn star guy Brian Pumper, the rapper lookin dude with all the damn Bling. Her name is Montana Fishburne
I watched several interviews about it just do a Google search, and she want to make maoney like Kim K. And Paris H. So making the sex tape will get her noticed, and she sold it to Vivid Entn.
It turns out that her Boyfriend some wild haired skinny dude had been Pimping her Out to the highest bidders there in Hollywood, while she was living with her father. Then she quickly moved in with the boyfriend.
This dump girl has mixed up making a Porn Movie with making a SEX TAPE. Now she will be screw in making legit movies even with a famous A-LIST Father. She will now be stuck into making only Porn Movies, if she is going to be in the movies period. Then she can make a lot of money stripping and visiting clubs and doing autographs and PIX, and some High Scale Trickin.
Her father tried to stop the release of the video but it was too late, it will be out Aug, 18 or 23, 2010. I will be one of the ones watching it on BootLeg. I ain't spending good, hard earned money on some Dumb-Ass 19y/0 spoiled Brat. Let her find out the "Hard Way" Literally!
I might be willing buy buy a Piece, if it comes available at the right price. As cheap as I am, I might, just to say I had it when she was. Unknown and Not Big Time.!
Once the Rappers get to know her she will be in the Videos, and Movie Bit Parts, and More. But nothing worthy of her fathers status.
Time will tell.
.
Your post is nearly indecipherable for me (sorry if I am dense...)
If you have information to share, please give it to us straight so we know how to use the info...
What is YOUR experience: what is her name, what is your experience, does she have digits, and who the H*** is Petite Britney???
Suggestion: Try to get your words together before you make your post.
A budy of mine down in Cincinnati who is a well known pleaser of women seems to have slipped into the mindset where upon he is not seeing any providers any more, so he emails me. Says he met a former that is funner than any. Stingy young bastard will not share her name though!
So, I figure on getting him back a little here. Just friendly stuff you know.
I think he might be tempted on that there Petite Britney.
So gents, if in ya see her, let it be known just how fine she is.
Caligulaxxx
08-10-10, 16:45
First of all, no one is allowed to mentioned that website on here where she might be found.
Have to work around what is allowed here.
Rest is up to you. You might look on a sight for just what I mentioned.
Or you might have PM'd me instead of making a public display.
Your post is nearly indecipherable for me (sorry if I am dense.)
If you have information to share, please give it to us straight so we know how to use the info.
What is YOUR experience: what is her name, what is your experience, does she have digits, and who the H*** is Petite Britney?
Suggestion: Try to get your words together before you make your post.
I had an interesting day today. Started out with an appointment with Katrina, well known to many on this board. Well, she blew me off. First time customer, bad first impression. Not even the courtesy to return my calls. If any of you are tight with her, tell her I made a new friend (more on that later) and she lost a potential good customer.
So I'm still ready to go and I drive the normal route and saw pregnant Sara in LPH. She is the same Sara I wrote about a month or so ago but wasn't visibly pregnant then. She sure is now and that's not my thing, although her skills are quite good.
Went to MLK and McMicken to start my run and sawthe funniest sign that I have attached a pic of. Saw one girl on a stoop with big titties but she looked worn out and I was ready to go. Saw two more down by the theater but they looked like crackheads and frankly it was too hot.
So I decided to take the advice of some of you here and called Summer. She was sweet right off the bat and told me where she was and to come right over. Needless to say, you guys who raved about her were right.. She is awesome and her new setup is easy access and nice. Nice rub, nice body, and a sweetheart, very accomodating. Turns out we have mutual friends from her old stripper days so that was cool too.
So, Katrina's loss is Summer's gain! Word to the wise for any providers who take their followup and scheduling for granted, especially with first time potential long-term customers.
Stay cool everyone, enjoy the sign!
Your post is nearly indecipherable for me (sorry if I am dense...)
If you have information to share, please give it to us straight so we know how to use the info...
What is YOUR experience: what is her name, what is your experience, does she have digits, and who the H*** is Petite Britney???
Suggestion: Try to get your words together before you make your post.
Bunch of BS that leads up to him asking for info on Brittany Petite.
My suggestion for him would be that he head over to e.com, TER or the large canine board to read her reviews if it wasn't for the fact that he posted 6 minutes before telling us how great she is.
Would have been a lot simpler if he had posted an FYI ad for her.
I've seen a couple of interesting things in the news this week that others can learn from. I'm sure you can figure out how all these situations could have been avoided. People are just getting crazy stupid.
http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/Three-Arrested-For-Middletown-Murder/irteT4_cMU2RbZW1uMxdSg.cspx
http://www.wlwt.com/news/24564892/detail.html
Guys, I am to impatient to sit here and try to figure out what the proper technique is on posting.
So I have some info, and I hope it helps. I spent time with these girls before they really started posting publicly. I know them more than just walk in do business walk out.
Mia and Nicole are sweethearts. I have known the one, I am not good at names, fake names, email names, that they use, for probably 2 years. The last time I saw them about a month ago, they were good. Clean, no track marks, sniffing, etc. Good Girls.
Brittney/Tasty Tiff. Awesome girl! One of the most amazing lovers I have been with. Sounds gay. Lover. Is the word performer in here. LOL. Anyway, she will put you in heaven. Totally clean, sweet, great girl!
Kat, the tiny girl from NKY. She is doing incall in Florence I think. DEAL OF THE CENTURY IF YOU LIKE SMALL GIRLS! This girl is totally clean. Cool, definitely legit!
Hope this helps!
Humpty Dumpty
08-11-10, 13:46
Cinci Man, what does the sign say? The text is blocking the message. I am led to believe its an idle threat against mongers, but I would like to know what exactly it says.
Caligulaxxx
08-11-10, 14:42
I have seen her, I was just providing a heads up for others who have not.
Warm welcome wagon for guys that would like to post but do not based on remarks and reactions such as these two. Way to go.
I can do my own research and I am a member on all the other boards, even those that are not allowed to be mentioned here by Jackson.
I do not need to post a fishing post to find out info. Again, I was providing a heads up. Read anything else into it and your just looking for shit where there is none.
Bunch of BS that leads up to him asking for info on Brittany Petite.
My suggestion for him would be that he head over to e.com, another site or the large canine board to read her reviews if it wasn't for the fact that he posted 6 minutes before telling us how great she is.
Would have been a lot simpler if he had posted an FYI ad for her.
What is with all of this bullshit and crap getting thrown into the forum which is supposed to be an "archive of useful information". YO NOOBS: RTFF and rules and come corrected.
Cinci Man, what does the sign say? The text is blocking the message. I am led to believe its an idle threat against mongers, but I would like to know what exactly it says.I'll look for some better software to shrink the pic I took and repost it, but the sign says:
Hey Johns, we've got your number (with number in a license plate)
Prostitution's Gotta Go!
Report the Johns Plate Numbers
I didn't realize the freeware I used blocked it that bad. If anybody has a suggestion on software that shrinks bigger pics feel free to PM me.
This goes along with all the chatter about the residents of the areas on the monger route being up in arms and pushing the SWs to Camp Washington. They're gonna go SOMEWHERE. duh!
Wingman Todd
08-12-10, 15:42
You're absolutely right on this, and I deleted the post. Should have been a PM anyway.
I'd try, really, but I can't think of a way to add less value than you guys.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/announcement-imageinstructions.php
I'll look for some better software to shrink the pic I took and repost it, but the sign says:
Hey Johns, we've got your number (with number in a license plate)
Prostitution's Gotta Go!
Report the Johns Plate Numbers
I didn't realize the freeware I used blocked it that bad. If anybody has a suggestion on software that shrinks bigger pics feel free to PM me.
This goes along with all the chatter about the residents of the areas on the monger route being up in arms and pushing the SWs to Camp Washington. They're gonna go SOMEWHERE. duh!
I respectfully request that you please enlighten us as to what the "General Reports" thread is for. Personally, I would rather see this kind of back and forth commentary in the General Reports thread and leave the Massage Parlor, Craigslist, Backpage, Escort, etc. threads clear.
Second, I think you did find a way to "add less value" to the thread by posting a thread bitching about the lack of value in the thread.
I started to post something disparaging you for how long you have been a member and how few posts you've made. But I don't need to go there and add to the tinderbox.
I know I'm not a Senior, but...
It has been said before, if you don't like the content, you don't have to read the forum. I'm getting tired of all of the members (unfortunately some long time seniors have been particularly bad about this) posting and bitching about the "non-report" conversations that are happening in the threads.
Simple answer: all of you complaining should post more reports of value and overwhelm the other posts instead of the other way around! Contribute to the solution, don't add to the problem!
Jump in and add reports to the Rip Off thread as Nkykinkyguy suggested a couple of weeks ago! Make that thread the best source for rip off info and experience lessons that it can be!
JMHO. Flame me if you want.
JR
I'd try, really, but I can't think of a way to add less value than you guys.
Thanks to Wally and Sincy Assman for the tips on photo sizing.
This banner is hung by a parking lot on McMicken. I think they are talking about us. lol
Thanks to Wally and Sincy Assman for the tips on photo sizing.
This banner is hung by a parking lot on McMicken. I think they are talking about us. lol
I saw they posted another banner north right before the ghetto church on Marshall and McMillan. What do they think they're gonna do with plate numbers? You can't do sh*t with them. No physical proof of any wrong doing whatsoever. Plus if they are getting plates, they're bound to misinterpret some kind of perfectly legal drop-off/pickup. What, nobody can get a ride in that area? What a joke.
Hey Guys. It has been a crazy last two weeks. I did a big deal, and have just been meeting new chicks constantly for 2 weeks. Not working much at all, I have mastered the technique, of proposing to women, a relationship that will help them with bills, and help me for an hour or so, and requires no other attachment. Business. Literally dozens.
I do want to help them and help you guys. Pay it forward right! I wouldn't want a penny from any of these girls or you guys. All is fair in love and war. You play at your own risk. I will always be honest, and I am sure my track record will speak for itself. But you never know when one will fall of the wagon. LOL. These girls aren't the most stable, but are any of us really. LOL?
I would like to meet any senior members for a drink in Florence. Or I guess I can just post these girls and reviews will speak for themselves. Guys, I don't want to be involved in any of this. YMMV. There are hundreds of gorgeous girls who don't have internet, pay for minutes in 10 dollar increments, sometimes live in motels, fuck, I could go on for days. I am just passing along info. First Amendment right? And fortunately Lou Sirkin is in Cincy. Flynts attorney.
If a senior member is cool with meeting me, I will bring my complete identity, records, whatever. I am single, my parents know I am a sugar daddy, too much to drink one night. LOL, so I will deal with whatever comes to me. I do not work for the other side. What a complete pity. I can guarantee those guys jerk off thinking about busting these chicks. It might even get them off.
I will be posting under a different name. If a senior member wants to pm me, he can pick the name and can share password with me or whatever. I can't sit down with these girls and they see this and know that I have been kind of talking honestly about them, which I will do. I do all searches possible on girls before I meet them. I spend about 8 bucks on a girl before I meet them on background checks or whatever. If I don't hear from a senior, my name will have to do with the state bird of ky and its color or something.
I don't fuck with girls that shoot up. If they do, I will tell you, but they would have to be super hot.
I am doing this and being honest because I know how bad it sucks to be robbed, or really want to see a chick and can't decide if she's fake or not. I will be posting probably 4-5 in the next day. Honestly I want these girls off my back. LOL. I can only be with a chick 2-3 times. On to the next one. I am honestly doing this to help good girls get what they need doing something that most enjoy.
Member #3974
08-21-10, 09:10
I certainly would be all over this if you were a senior established and vouched for member. Get some credibility then contact me.
Hey Guys. It has been a crazy last two weeks. I did a big deal, and have just been meeting new chicks constantly for 2 weeks. Not working much at all, I have mastered the technique, of proposing to women, a relationship that will help them with bills, and help me for an hour or so, and requires no other attachment. Business. Literally dozens.
I do want to help them and help you guys. Pay it forward right! I wouldn't want a penny from any of these girls or you guys. All is fair in love and war. You play at your own risk. I will always be honest, and I am sure my track record will speak for itself. But you never know when one will fall of the wagon. LOL. These girls aren't the most stable, but are any of us really. LOL?
I would like to meet any senior members for a drink in Florence. Or I guess I can just post these girls and reviews will speak for themselves. Guys, I don't want to be involved in any of this. YMMV. There are hundreds of gorgeous girls who don't have internet, pay for minutes in 10 dollar increments, sometimes live in motels, fuck, I could go on for days. I am just passing along info. First Amendment right? And fortunately Lou Sirkin is in Cincy. Flynts attorney.
If a senior member is cool with meeting me, I will bring my complete identity, records, whatever. I am single, my parents know I am a sugar daddy, too much to drink one night. LOL, so I will deal with whatever comes to me. I do not work for the other side. What a complete pity. I can guarantee those guys jerk off thinking about busting these chicks. It might even get them off.
I will be posting under a different name. If a senior member wants to pm me, he can pick the name and can share password with me or whatever. I can't sit down with these girls and they see this and know that I have been kind of talking honestly about them, which I will do. I do all searches possible on girls before I meet them. I spend about 8 bucks on a girl before I meet them on background checks or whatever. If I don't hear from a senior, my name will have to do with the state bird of ky and its color or something.
I don't fuck with girls that shoot up. If they do, I will tell you, but they would have to be super hot.
I am doing this and being honest because I know how bad it sucks to be robbed, or really want to see a chick and can't decide if she's fake or not. I will be posting probably 4-5 in the next day. Honestly I want these girls off my back. LOL. I can only be with a chick 2-3 times. On to the next one. I am honestly doing this to help good girls get what they need doing something that most enjoy.
Cock blocked again.
When will I ever learn.
Hey guys,
I just found out that Summer's mom has passed away and she needs a cash infusion to get down to Florida for the funeral.
This is Summer of the infamous Summer and Stacy duo, well reviewed on this board, and personally and very happily experienced by myself and several other members here.
She is a great lady, easy to talk to, fun to be with, and super accomodating if you know what I mean!
Her incall is real easy to get to and find and she would love to see new or old friends in the next day or so.
Any of you guys sitting on the fence wanting to see her should do it now. She'd really appreciate it!
Her link is http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/all-wet-and-all-yours-summer-and-stacy-26/5615119 and trust me, she is way hotter in person.
Have a great day!
Hey Guys. It has been a crazy last two weeks. I did a big deal, and have just been meeting new chicks constantly for 2 weeks. Not working much at all, I have mastered the technique, of proposing to women, a relationship that will help them with bills, and help me for an hour or so, and requires no other attachment. Business. Literally dozens.For better or worse, I don't think this guy is a cop. But reading through this a few times, I can only guess he is crazy. At any rate, I would stay away.
On a prior post in Chatlines recently, he did give out the number for Tracey in New Richmond in the public forum, saying it would be OK with her. I did see her later on, and 1) the description was right 2) she had no idea her number had been posted publicly.
Hey guys,
I just found out that Summer's mom has passed away and she needs a cash infusion to get down to Florida for the funeral.
This is Summer of the infamous Summer and Stacy duo, well reviewed on this board, and personally and very happily experienced by myself and several other members here.
She is a great lady, easy to talk to, fun to be with, and super accomodating if you know what I mean!
Her incall is real easy to get to and find and she would love to see new or old friends in the next day or so.
Any of you guys sitting on the fence wanting to see her should do it now. She'd really appreciate it!
Her link is http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/all-wet-and-all-yours-summer-and-stacy-26/5615119 and trust me, she is way hotter in person.
Have a great day!
Lookee here. I do know that Summer's reports are stellar on here, but another option is open, too. If Stacy is more your style, as it is with Lookee, that will help, too. The friendship between them has prompted Stacy to let Summer know that she will help however she can. So, a good day of business for Stacy means more help for Summer at this trying time. Have not formally reviewed Stacy, but lets just say Lookee likee, lol.
Lookee
Met a super cute girl from Highland Heights.
miss_edina311@yahoo.com.
White, 30, good body, a TON of fun!
You will probably have to pick her up.
Member #4193
08-30-10, 10:50
Hey guys,
Been trying to get in touch with Mallory for a while now with no luck. Can anyone suggest a replacement? Thin white girl that does outcall?
PM me if you need to.
http://www.wlwt.com/news/24818917/detail.html
Hope everyone is alright. Bill, BIIIILLLLLLLL???
Member #4523
08-31-10, 09:11
http://www.wlwt.com/news/24818917/detail.html
Hope everyone is alright. Bill, BIIIILLLLLLLL???
Thanks for your concern, but you should have known it wasn't me when you saw that there were TWO men in the car. The Fanta Man travels ALONE. Well, alone unless there is a BSW, her aunt, and the aunt's male friend in the car with me. :>)
I see Beverly is visiting her Uncle. She was a SW for a short time before trying to make into the big league. Stays in Camp Washington now FYI.
Fanofyours7
08-31-10, 20:20
Anyone know whatever happened to her ? Her website is down too. She announced she was here back in late July then disappeared.
Ky Guy 123
08-31-10, 20:27
Per the latest E.com review, posted on 8/24:
"Saw that Taylor was visiting Lexington, Kentucky. I arranged an appointment to meet her. Appointment was easy to set up. Taylor made me feel so comfortable. She has a nice disposition. I could have talked with her for hours. She is a very interesting lady. I wanted to see her again but she went back to Providence, RI. VIP members read on"
So, not sure if the relocate back to Providence is permanent or short-term, but that's probably why her site is not up right this sec. She's still in the biz from what I can tell from her just uploading new pics on e.com 4 days ago. My suggestion would be to email her and find out when she'll be available again in this area. :)
Jay
Anyone know whatever happened to her ? Her website is down too. She announced she was here back in late July then disappeared.
Met a super cute girl from Highland Heights.
miss_edina311@yahoo.com.
White, 30, good body, a TON of fun!
You will probably have to pick her up.
Has anyone had any luck connecting with Edina? I got a reply to an email, but no reply to my follow up?
Motoben560
09-03-10, 01:05
Stopped in Racers this evening. Chatted with a top-heavy gal named "Lexi" and collected her digits. She lives in Florence and take out appears to be available.
Anyway, she looks incredibily familiar. I searched for her name and number on the usual sites, but didn't turn anything up. By any chance, does anyone know who I'm talking about? If so please PM me, I'd like more intel.
Kat sounds like my kind of lady. Anyone have any intel on her?
Guys, I am to impatient to sit here and try to figure out what the proper technique is on posting.
So I have some info, and I hope it helps. I spent time with these girls before they really started posting publicly. I know them more than just walk in do business walk out.
Mia and Nicole are sweethearts. I have known the one, I am not good at names, fake names, email names, that they use, for probably 2 years. The last time I saw them about a month ago, they were good. Clean, no track marks, sniffing, etc. Good Girls.
Brittney/Tasty Tiff. Awesome girl! One of the most amazing lovers I have been with. Sounds gay. Lover. Is the word performer in here. LOL. Anyway, she will put you in heaven. Totally clean, sweet, great girl!
Kat, the tiny girl from NKY. She is doing incall in Florence I think. DEAL OF THE CENTURY IF YOU LIKE SMALL GIRLS! This girl is totally clean. Cool, definitely legit!
Hope this helps!
Ky Guy 123
09-03-10, 18:01
'Kat' I believe if I'm reading this right is Pretty Kitty, who is reviewed here on BP/Escort, and has posted on this forum herself a few times as well, most recently in the North Kentucky one as a matter of fact.
Hope this helps.
Jay
Kat sounds like my kind of lady. Anyone have any intel on her?
Is it just me or has craiglists removed the adult ads?
I recently traveled to Detroit and ran into NiikeFox from e.com. She is wonderful and the time was very enjoyable and not rushed. Plan on seeing her the next time I am there.
Below is the link.
http://www.escorts.com/member/2629504/NikkiFox
Hardlikker
09-04-10, 11:48
It looks like political pressure forced them to shut it down. CL Canada still has the Erotic section, it never even changed to Adult. CL was concened about women being forced into prostitution however I would say that the percentage of that was extremely small. Hopefully it will come back in the US again. BP is still alive and good.
I wonder why Canada has such a liberalized approach to prostitution?
Nkykinkyguy
09-04-10, 12:34
Hopefully this is not the same Kat you are refering to. Catalina appears to be part of Taylor Rain's band of thieves. Same phone number in both ads.
KG
'Kat' I believe if I'm reading this right is Pretty Kitty, who is reviewed here on BP/Escort, and has posted on this forum herself a few times as well, most recently in the North Kentucky one as a matter of fact.
Hope this helps.
Jay
Mr Boombastic
09-05-10, 18:06
Bill to tell the truth most thing you wrote about I agree with but in a different way. I have been for longer than I want to admit, and have even dated (I am using "DATED" very loosely) some SW's who were not street walkers. I have gone to cities were there lower level of SW's or our high end here.
We have to be fortunate to get anything decent here. Even Columbus has a better selection than we do even Louisville, Lexington and everywhere has a better selection. So we have to accept what we get and be HAPPY we have it.
You will rarely see an SW that looks like Cally walking the streets of Cincy. Sometime you don't even see them as Escorts but we have only a few, and they rule the local nest. That is all about money too, and from them you most get the GFE, but I don't want to kiss them, I just want the SEX, so in order to get it I have to give them the SugarDaddy Experience, and come with the cheddar. No Money, No Honey.
For me Bill it is like when I go Deer hunting. It is the hunt itself, and the extra points of the hunt is finding the #10 point buck, of the naive SW who is great looking, young, a serious body, and only want $25-30buck for FS, and you can reach her on a regular basis, and is NOT drugged out as of yet. How rare a find in this area.
Some of the most skilled SW's out there have been older, but they have learned a lesson, the younger one have yet to learn, and many time if you don't get the GFE, it is more about the "RESPECT" they have for you, not how much money you are willing to spend. You can treat them all like Queens and they may still Never Respect you, and that can be a matter of many things, Personal, Cultural, Financial, and everything else. I have had SW's who have done everything not to orgasm, and are holding back, and it is frustrating because you know they are feeling it, but they don't want to think of what they are doing as something they really want to do, but for now Need to do to pay the Bills.
All of this has been written about before by almost everyone, including WordUp, Giani, and members from other forums, so this is just going to bring up old rewritten answer, but we might get a few new and different answers.
Many time when we head for the street we are Horny and it is like going to the grocery store hungry. Not a good idea. So once on the streets we tend to look for what suits us but that is rare so we have to take what is available, and might times we get decent enough skillz. Sometime extra money will get you better service, but why spend it when getting it ready for FS is the main goal.
I have gone the extra mile for some SW's and they still to this day go out of their way for me. Some of them have gone on and moved on, and I still see them every once in a while. Even when they still have boyfriends, and are off drugs. It is about Respect, and that is mutual. I still want the best for them they can be, but I understand limited even those self imposed ones. I have had a lot of lesbian SW I have dealt with, and they dealt with us/men only for the money, and they are many times the ones who will go out of the way to please or way out of the way to hold back. Only once they told me did I ever know. I sometimes are better friend with them than the straight girls. My favorite are Bi-Sexual women, I get along best with them. I seem to have a better understanding of them.
I am going to add more to this conversation, but I have to conclude for now. Bill this is a very good subject because many member are puzzled, about it.
Disclaimer: I have had only 18 months of experience in “the hobby” and have NO WHERE NEAR the knowledge and experience of some of the senior members on this forum. I am simply offering a distillation of some things I’ve learned, mostly over the past year.
What makes a SW “an ideal SW?” Skills? Looks? Low price? Attitude? Availability? All of the above? If you are looking for good skills, using an escort surely increases the odds that the provider will have good skills and will make a genuine effort to provide pleasure. But if finances restrict you to SWs, can you find one with the skills, looks, price, attitudes, and availability that make her ideal for you?
I know one part-time SW who will tell you that she “is a trick, not a call girl.” By that she means that she will perform a HJ, BJ, or FS, but will not kiss, caress, moan, groan, or give other evidence that she herself is experiencing pleasure or cares in the least for you as a person. In other words, no GFE from her, period. I once spent some time with her in a fairly nice motel room. I had provided her favorite alcoholic beverage (while she provided her own weed). Under these circumstances, she provided a nude body which was available for touching, fondling, intercourse, or DATY and, upon request, would provide a BBBJ that I found distinctly unexciting. She would also provide casual conversation and would, upon request, give you a hug. In her own way, she was an honest provider who made it clear what she had to offer. We never haggled about price and she was always friendly, but it was pretty clear that she didn’t care whether she ever saw me again. So how would you rate her? Would she be your ideal SW? She’s not ideal for me because of her lack of skills (poor oral and manual skills and no dirty talk) and her relative indifference to me as a person.
Another case study: I once went out of my way to help a BSW get a motel room registered in her name (actually, in her aunt’s name), so that she could keep the room after we parted ways. She seemed genuinely grateful for my help in this matter and seemed to enjoy our time together. At one point she gave me a big hug, looked me in the eye, and said, “I love you SO much!” Of course it is absurd to think or imagine that she felt any sort of real, mature love for me, but consider how it may make you feel when an attractive young woman, to whom you are sexually attracted, holds you closely and tells you that you’re wonderful and that she loves you SO much. Hard to ignore, right? Even though in this case it wouldn’t have been a “May/December” romance, but more like a “New Year’s Day/Christmas Eve” romance. So do you want your ideal SW to actually fall in love with you? Of course not! But I’ll bet you want your ideal SW to act like she likes you and enjoys your company. You know that it is really all about the money you provide, but just like the “willing suspension of disbelief” that allows a theater audience to become caught up in a play, you may be willing to ignore financial matters for the few minutes you are around her.
My ideal provider would 1) have good to great skills, 2) be available just about any time, 3) look appealing, 4) act like she finds my company pleasant and fun (in other words, at least a semi-GFE), and 5) price her services reasonably. Unfortunately, the SWs I have found who have appealing looks and act like they enjoy my company don’t have great skills. The SWs I have run into who have really good skills tend to be older and less physically attractive. With more experience I may find one or more SWs who rate highly on all five factors, but I am not optimistic about this.
I have come to believe that you probably won’t find everything you want in ONE SW. One may be reliable and have great oral skills, but might not be physically attractive. Another may be young, cute, and able to make you believe she likes you but might be short on skills or high on price. Yet another may have just about everything you want, but she never has minutes and can only be found now and then. So maybe we need to accept the fact that there is no ideal SW? Heck, even if we found her, within a few weeks or months at most, we’d be looking for someone new, right?
I made this post to provide a few insights and to solicit comments from those with more experience and knowledge. And if YOU have found that ideal SW, please send along her digits via PM, OK?
Babelover77
09-06-10, 09:30
http://www.kypost.com/dpps/news/tri-state_news/ohio-sees-increase-in-syphilis-cases_5069652
Not to be a debbie downer but the article above is a must read.
Enjoy carefully ya'll.
I emailed Edina and did get a response. I met her over the weekend. She is a very sweet and passionate woman who I highly recommend. She will send pictures and they are accurate. I had a great time with her!!
Has anyone had any luck connecting with Edina? I got a reply to an email, but no reply to my follow up?
This news story of a man murdered in South Fairmont Monday night is an eye opener. I'm sure it could have been avoided, although details aren't yet available:
http://www.wlwt.com/news/24906776/detail.html
http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/Man-Killed-At-South-Fairmount-Apartment/B_YN0fv8y0q9CD_f1wR0Dg.cspx
I emailed Edina and did get a response. I met her over the weekend. She is a very sweet and passionate woman who I highly recommend. She will send pictures and they are accurate. I had a great time with her!!
+1. Outcall only and her rendevouz point is a little out of the way aren't so great, but the rest is accurate. If anyone remembers Amy/Carly from around Dry Ridge years ago (not Karla, who's still around), she's a bit like her with the same kind of of 'My Name is Earl', easy-going, just-tryin'-to-get-by vibe.
Jay Malibu
09-08-10, 12:34
Now that Craig's List has shut the door to the adult services ads, there has been a mass movement of ads to Backpage. Not that I used BP all that much, but the number of scam ads that have migrated from CL is annoying. I guess BP is going to have a windfall from the CL censorship. Nothing like unintended consequences. Craig's loss is Backpage's gain.
Went to see Sady last night. Very nice girl nice apt. Only stayed for 1/2 hr. Wish I'd stayed for the full hr. Good at what she does and enjoys it. Treat her well and you will enjoy it.
She is Very Enthusiastic! I have been seeing her on and off for a couple of years. Good girl. And yes, tiny!
Hardlikker
09-09-10, 14:29
I've lived in Cincy , N KY for many years and I'll be coming back for a while. Anyone care to share any tips? Looking for white F/S girls. Please PM me.
If you're ever in upstate NY I have plenty of tips.
Motoben560
09-10-10, 00:40
I'll be visiting Baton Rouge next week, have never been there. The Baton Rouge board is dead, no one has posted for a month (except me).
In order to speed my search, figured I'd see if anyone here can recommend a nice sensual message down there. Please PM if so, or if you have any other BR-related intel that you care to share with me. Thanks,
Saw Edina again and guess I could have been clearer in my other report. Her location really isn't 'remote'. It's actually pretty easy to get to, I just happen to live some distance away. Likewise, she's a nice, easy-going, accomodating person who is drama-free, not bad looking, has a superb skill-set, and is definitely recommended.
Hope this clears up any confusion my previous post might have caused. I saw her based on Ky Mike53's report and he was dead accurate.
I just spoke with Stormy via text. I don't have a lot of detail, but she wanted me to share a little more specifically what has happened.
Her daughter was killed in a car accident several days ago. It is very tragic and she will have to fly out of town later this week to deal with everything.
She would greatly appreciate all of your love, thoughts, messages, and prayers.
She also wanted me to tell you all that she loves you guys.
She NEEDS to keep working until she leaves on Thursday night. She needs the money for the trip and arrangements and the companionship for the support. If you can, please go see her ASAP. It will be greatly appreciated. She's going to work as much as possible this week.
Posted from my iPhone
Thank You all!
JR
Easton 1269
09-11-10, 14:52
Seems to be an influx of ex- Naughty Body employees going indy. Posted a report in rip-off section and CL section regarding one of them. Beware. Some (not all) are alluding to full service, but only providing no touch shows.
Cadillac31
09-11-10, 19:37
Will be visiting Cincy this weekend, anyone have any numbers for some nice ladies?
Wingman Todd
09-12-10, 01:21
I say this this quite politely. Read the reviews!
WM
Will be visiting Cincy this weekend, anyone have any numbers for some nice ladies?
Myla Hunter's picture from Getnati's link looks vaguely familiar. Her picture is certain compatable with being a provider, tho the stories I have seen do not specify her role. Her name and appearance reminds me of Russians I have known.
If any recognizes her, we would all be very interested.
This news story of a man murdered in South Fairmont Monday night is an eye opener. I'm sure it could have been avoided, although details aren't yet available:
http://www.wlwt.com/news/24906776/detail.html
http://www.local12.com/news/local/story/Man-Killed-At-South-Fairmount-Apartment/B_YN0fv8y0q9CD_f1wR0Dg.cspx
Hardlikker
09-12-10, 15:38
I was cruising Madison last nite and there seemed like quite a few young ladies out looking for dates. I think most were looking for quick around the block cash. I picked up one cute girl with glasses, Nikki, said she was from Florence looking for gas money. I was interested in more than a car date but she wasn't so she got out. Still the hunting looked pretty good. Newport has nothing going on.
Myla Hunter's picture from Getnati's link looks vaguely familiar. Her picture is certain compatable with being a provider, tho the stories I have seen do not specify her role. Her name and appearance reminds me of Russians I have known.
If any recognizes her, we would all be very interested.I believe maybe once I had noticed seeing her on Westwood Ave in the South Fairmount area. I can't really be absolutely certain but her face is very familiar to the girls I've seen in South Fairmount. I had a regular living in that area over a year ago and the year before. So I'm very familiar with the area and my regular SW, I had called her "Red", had told me plenty about South Fairmount.
Westwood Ave between Quebec Road to Grand Ave is full of drug dens and Drug Boyzs hanging out. A lot of people in the area are hostile and thefts. A lot of locals in the area are looking to con. Very rough area on Westwood Ave and the neighborhoods on both sides of Queen City Ave as well.
From my research the Myla Hunter girl is a classic theft. No record of her arrested for soliciting or loitering. However, plenty of crimes in theft, telecommunication harassment, forgery, receiving stolen property, drugs procession and finally aggravated murder - Felony.
This Myla chick has a record as long as your arm. She been busy on a crime spree for the last 3 to 4 years.
It's a good thing this Myla girl wasn't a SW. She probably would of robbed and killed one of you guys right in your car! :eek:
Remember that BSW in Covington a couple of years ago who stabbed a guy with a knife. The guy had told her .60 for her services and afterwards he gave her half. She went nuts and killed him.
Watch who you meet these days and keep your eye on recent arrest and know what some of these girls are involved besides soliciting.
Harpo
Seems to be an influx of ex- Naughty Body employees going indy. Posted a report in rip-off section and CL section regarding one of them. Beware. Some (not all) are alluding to full service, but only providing no touch shows.Business has got to be down for them after the guy got run over by one of their girls.
Same thing happened after the word got out on Best Shows and the girls learned they could make better money on their own if they decided the rules.
I was cruising Madison last nite and there seemed like quite a few young ladies out looking for dates.
I'm fairly sure I've seen Summer, the larger of the Summer & Stacy duo, walking the streets of Covington a couple of times now. And she was not walking with a destination in mind.
Had the pleasure of seeing Mya this afternoon. She works out of the same apt as Sady. Nice girl nice coke bottle shape. She enjoys recieving as well as giving. These two are fun girls, especially if you give some back if you know what I mean.
I was given some advise to review the past postings on the site here.
http://www.Usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php? T=3978&page=2&pp=15
I took that advise to heart and have been reading past posts for several days and can honestly state that it was well worth my time and effort to do so.
I'm not even sure if I'm posting this in the correct forum, but I felt I needed to post it somewhere and this seemed OK to me. If that is an error of judgement on my part, please forgive a newbie to these boards and simply correct my mistake. I can and will learn.
I've been on the boards of several sites that I'm sure you all are familiar with for quite a while. I have no negatives to post regarding how those sites are run, but rather I would like to say something about how this one is different. I also wanted to post my opinion because I have not read anything on these boards similar to what I want to say. Maybe some other new member will find this post and it will help them. So here goes.
Every other site I have ever been a member of has promoted the use of some sort of vouching system for new members to find their way. As sensible as it may seem, it poses problems for someone new to hobbying. Not that this one doesn't use a version of a vouching system, its just that there are differences here that need to be spelled out for a newbie.
First and foremost in my thinking is the way things are discussed here. There appears to be no secret code, understood by only the most senior members and the ladies that trust that specific group. God help the new man that wishes to join the fun for finding that entry can only mean one of a couple things.
Risk everything and see someone you are not in the least attracted to for the sole purpose of gaining entry to the "club" of known members, or spend ones time and money playing the current game however long that may take to find the "perfect match" that will see a newbie and send one on the vouched journey.
Of course there are senior member benefits and levels of trust with such things such as direct numbers of providers that are giving good service, but even with those topics, names and simple reviews are freely given for all to read and evaluate.
More than even that, one is "taught" how to evaluate a new lady just posting her first ads, for themselves. We are shown how to do basic safety checks on our own so that we may actually become informative members. I know I'm not the best orator, but this is different here. One is being "taught" not just being read a list of rules to figure out on your own how to navigate.
I can only tell you of my experience. This is a different approach, and IMHO the best that I have found.
So in addition to actually posting what I think of the site and the way things are done here, I would like to thank those that have created this place. I can say that I am new enough to not even know who that is. LOL Probably a smart thing.
That opinion my friends is honest,
Boris
Easton 1269
09-14-10, 15:59
Yeah baby! Just noticed I have been elevated to the coveted Senior member status! Yahoo!
I'm fairly sure I've seen Summer, the larger of the Summer & Stacy duo, walking the streets of Covington a couple of times now. And she was not walking with a destination in mind.Interesting. Usually when I think of a SP becoming a cross over artist it would be a SW trying to trade up to the escort ranks. I think many of us have found a few of them out there that think just because they are working the phone via the chat line or can access the internet that their skills are suddenly worth the higher escort rate. Never really considered the opposite of "trading down" so to speak.
I never saw Summer or Stacy and have no idea about the origins of either before they appeared in the ads of BP. Maybe she got her start on the street. I don't think she publishes her donation rate on BP and would have to think whatever it is that she couldn't command the same while walking although would think she would definately be worth a street premium based only on what I have read about her here.
Summer had a some very favorable revews here. There are also some members here who do not necessarily look down on those that monger the streets, but have commented that it is not "for them". My question would be... provided that this is true about Summer does this make her less desirable and do you scratch her name from your to do list? Or do you start combing the streets of Covington looking for a fire sale? I think I will go for the latter if you want to shoot me a PM with where you think you saw her.
Nkykinkyguy
09-15-10, 14:52
I am glad to hear you read the forum Boris. Yes it does take some time but in the long run you save so much more time and energy by being well informed.
Yes there is a little drama from time to time but that is part of the open forum that you are so pleased with. It is a small price to pay for the wealth of knowledge obtained from so many of the Senior Members here. Take it all in use what works for you and leave the rest behind.
Happy Hunting,
KG
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hi-i-am-katie-and-i-will-is-that-ok/5778724
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/katie-sweet-and-sexy-new-girl-21/5615912
Both adds look good! Same number! Same girl? Tatoo? Which rate is better? Massage? Or FS?
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hi-i-am-katie-and-i-will-is-that-ok/5778724
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/katie-sweet-and-sexy-new-girl-21/5615912
Both adds look good! Same number! Same girl? Tatoo? Which rate is better? Massage? Or FS?Both girls work for naughty bodies. dance and massage with major upsell.
YMMV
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hi-i-am-katie-and-i-will-is-that-ok/5778724
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/katie-sweet-and-sexy-new-girl-21/5615912
Both adds look good! Same number! Same girl? Tatoo? Which rate is better? Massage? Or FS?
E,
Actually, 2 different providers. The top one has been around a while in the past. I recall some decent reviews that YMMV though. Bottom one is brand new to the scene and is connected to Katrina.
I've not experienced either one but did ask about the new Katie (bottom) and heard very little.
Please pm me if you TOFTT.
Jay Malibu
09-16-10, 08:50
E,
Actually, 2 different providers. The top one has been around a while in the past. I recall some decent reviews that YMMV though. Bottom one is brand new to the scene and is connected to Katrina.
I've not experienced either one but did ask about the new Katie (bottom) and heard very little.
Please pm me if you TOFTT.
Katrina and her friend Holly are reviewed on another site. Massage and HE only - nothing else. Also caters to S&M scene - Dom it seems.
Katrina and her friend Holly are reviewed on another site. Massage and HE only - nothing else. Also caters to S&M scene - Dom it seems.That's accurate but it would seem rates have increased since I last saw them. Does anyone know if that's due to a menu change?
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hi-i-am-katie-and-i-will-is-that-ok/5778724
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/katie-sweet-and-sexy-new-girl-21/5615912
Both adds look good! Same number! Same girl? Tatoo? Which rate is better? Massage? Or FS?If you google the ph# provided in the top link, you will find no less than 4-5 ads from the past year, with different names and pics. I believe I recognize some from bad reviews here; either poor service or straight rip-off. Here's one I recall was bad news:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&cd=16&ved=0CCcQFjAFOAo&url=http%3A%2F%2Fcincinnati.backpage.com%2FBodyRubs%2Feager-hot-blonde-stacy-back-n-town-for-a-limited-time-513-418-7052%2F4650852&rct=j&q=513-418-7052&ei=cW2STIPcI4SglAfg5ICpCg&usg=AFQjCNEiPr3pmwL_5rTKcU1YeSerpa-WsQ&cad=rja
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hi-i-am-katie-and-i-will-is-that-ok/5778724
Katie used to go by Raquel some time back. I had inquired in the open forum and was told to avoid, but like someone else stated I don't recall if the warning was DIY or Cash -n- Dash or what.
I also just stumbled onto "Katie's" pictures on BP Cleveland using the name Sunshine with a 216 area code phone number: http://cleveland.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/s-e-xy-tr-e-a-s-u-r-e-22/5774294
I'm reasonably confident that the rate increase is not across the board.
Katrina's ad from Sept. 15 still has the same rates for her (Katrina) - .35/.50/.70/.90
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/relaxing-sensual-massage-513-706-7953-email-or-call-for-a-pic-38/4663181
Holly's Sept. 17 ad shows rates that are about double Katrina's - .80/1.0/1.2/1.4
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/hollyeye-candy-for-the-gentlemen-36/5736855
Katie's Sept. 15 ad shows rates that are a little higher than Holly's - .90/1.2/1.6/2.0
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/katie-sweet-and-sexy-new-girl-21/5615912
I have seen Katrina. I have not seen Holly or Katie (although I have asked about Katie a couple of times with no responses). Based on rates, Katrina is still providing the same services she always has. My guess (based solely on rates) is that both Holly and Katie are providing a more broad menu selection. If that is not the case ... probably not worth it for a massage and HE.
Compiling and providing as much info as I can. Maybe someone can provide some actual experiences with Holly or Katie to confirm?
Be safe, be well,
JR
That's accurate but it would seem rates have increased since I last saw them. Does anyone know if that's due to a menu change?
I will start this by saying that I am only sharing information here. I am not judging.
I have from a pretty reliable source that Summer has been walking the streets. I do not know why and I will not speculate beyond saying that she recently had a personal tragedy with a death in her family and business may be really slow for her.
She (and Stacy) are still advertising on BP. So, she is still doing the escort thing too.
Latest ad (from today):
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/BodyRubs/summerandstacy-are-willing-and-ready-to-play-with-u-today-26/5778475
I might reiterate Ceenote in saying that you might get a "fire sale" if you find her on the streets in Covington.
I would also like to note that Stacy's phone number is messed up in the ad. It actually ends in 3177. I'm going to let Stacy know. I'm not sure who the dyslexic one is.
[update] The phone number has been corrected in the ad.
Be safe, be well,
JR
Interesting. Usually when I think of a SP becoming a cross over artist it would be a SW trying to trade up to the escort ranks. I think many of us have found a few of them out there that think just because they are working the phone via the chat line or can access the internet that their skills are suddenly worth the higher escort rate. Never really considered the opposite of "trading down" so to speak.
I never saw Summer or Stacy and have no idea about the origins of either before they appeared in the ads of BP. Maybe she got her start on the street. I don't think she publishes her donation rate on BP and would have to think whatever it is that she couldn't command the same while walking although would think she would definately be worth a street premium based only on what I have read about her here.
Summer had a some very favorable revews here. There are also some members here who do not necessarily look down on those that monger the streets, but have commented that it is not "for them". My question would be. Provided that this is true about Summer does this make her less desirable and do you scratch her name from your to do list? Or do you start combing the streets of Covington looking for a fire sale? I think I will go for the latter if you want to shoot me a PM with where you think you saw her.
I'm fairly sure I've seen Summer, the larger of the Summer & Stacy duo, walking the streets of Covington a couple of times now. And she was not walking with a destination in mind.
Wingman Todd
09-17-10, 13:52
Kitty is having a problem posting an ad, and she asked me to relay a note to everyone. She is doing a $90 special today at her hotel room, full service and starting at 2pm. Call or text her at 859 992 1387. Opps, I'm a bit tardy in posting this for her!
As always, stay safe and have fun.
Starting at 2? She just told me she gets off work at 4:15 pm - go figure
Kitty is having a problem posting an ad, and she asked me to relay a note to everyone. She is doing a $90 special today at her hotel room, full service and starting at 2pm. Call or text her at 859 992 1387. Opps, I'm a bit tardy in posting this for her!
As always, stay safe and have fun.
Wingman Todd
09-17-10, 14:33
Guess it's a blond thing!
WM
Starting at 2? She just told me she gets off work at 4:15 pm - go figure
Last week I saw a blond hottie on E named Rose who had just joined that site. Located up in Dayton, she had no reviews posted yet. I contacted her and found out she went by another name, and has been reviewed on the Dayton forum. I wont give her old name; who knows why she changed it.
Set things up for a hh and met her up north. Cute, with a nice bod, but not very organized when we met. I watched TV for 20 minutes while she was in the bathroom. I started to get nervous, and kept peeking out the drapes.
When she finally reappeared, she said she didn't have a cover and asked if I had one. Warning bells were really starting to go off. Remembering some prior stories on here, I grabbed all my stuff when I went to look in my car. I neglected to bring my handy backup Doh! So we settled for a French lesson.
Rose partially disrobed and wanted to get down to business. Nope, let's take our time and shed those bottoms as well. Brief make out session (she's a good kisser) while I played with her playground. Very tight, and it got very wet with lots of pleasant sounds telling me things were being enjoyed. Really wished we had a cover at that point.
Excellent French language technique. I will definitely see her again. Not a real GFE experience, but a fun time with a rockin bod. I recommend, but bring a raincoat in case it rains.
Saw a provider advertising on another board. Mature, but very cute pics, good rates. She had only joined a few days before and had one review.
I set up an appointment for that evening. First thing that hit me was that each reply to my e-mail repeated the text of my e-mail in the body of her reply, along with her reply. Hmmm that seemed odd.
Second thing that got me was when I asked where she was located, she gave me an exact address to her in call, which is at her home. Never met me before, never spoke to me on the phone, and I get all that information. The alarm bells went off for me at that point, thinking LE.
I wouldn't be paranoid if the world wasn't out to get me.
Tell me what you think.
If you think LE, I recommend bail. There is no downside to following this rule, if you consider the consequences. Having said that. I've had providers both quote me in their response, as well as provide me complete directions to a home address.
Saw a provider advertising on another board. Mature, but very cute pics, good rates. She had only joined a few days before and had one review.
I set up an appointment for that evening. First thing that hit me was that each reply to my e-mail repeated the text of my e-mail in the body of her reply, along with her reply. Hmmm that seemed odd.
Second thing that got me was when I asked where she was located, she gave me an exact address to her in call, which is at her home. Never met me before, never spoke to me on the phone, and I get all that information. The alarm bells went off for me at that point, thinking LE.
I wouldn't be paranoid if the world wasn't out to get me.
Tell me what you think.
Must be. Turned out to be past 5:30 which was too late for me.
Guess it's a blond thing!
WM
Saw a provider advertising on another board. Mature, but very cute pics, good rates. She had only joined a few days before and had one review.
I set up an appointment for that evening.Irishmut must have cancelled or this question would not be asked on this day in this context. Irishmut might contact her one reviewer about seeing her at her home and also check his review history.
First thing that hit me was that each reply to my e-mail repeated the text of my e-mail in the body of her reply, along with her reply. Hmmm that seemed odd.Yes, that is quite odd. I catch myself doing the same thing as a method of organizing a discussion of multiple topics running several exchanges. The very last exchange becomes a complete organized “file” rendering prior e-mails surplus. It is an indication the actor has a very high IQ and a likely member of Mensa or maybe the actor is anal retentive. I understand there is a way to copy and paste the paragraphs in the proper order to avoid hand-typing it all but I haven’t figured it out yet.
Second thing that got me was when I asked where she was located, she gave me an exact address to her in-call, which is at her home. Never met me before, never spoke to me on the phone, and I get all that information. The alarm bells went off for me at that point, thinking LE.Seems there are several possibilities here and LE isn’t the only one. She could be unaware of the dangling participles inherent to seeing guys in her home. She’s probably new and doesn’t realize a trail of guys will develop and draw attention of neighbors and kids out playing, neighbors sitting on their front porches and the like. Most will drive up and down the street or circle the block before getting the nerve to stop. Most will park a block away and walk to her door. Some will get the wrong door especially at night. She will also be easy prey for a stalker. It is not good for a girl to operate out of her home. For what it is worth I have never seen a reported sting of a hobbyist taking place at a private residence. Neighbors notice LE’s set-up activity, too. Also, a lot of girls do in-call at home. They haven’t learned.
I wouldn't be paranoid if the world wasn't out to get me. Tell me what you think.I think Irishmut should trust his own gut first, last and always. For me, I would move things to the phone and have a frank discussion about the dangers of home in-call to judge her response. I would meet her for drinks at a bar with no agreement of anything to follow. LE will not go to a bar. I would arrive early to see her arrive. LE never travels alone. I would have her drive me to her home. LE will never let their woman get in a car with a guy alone. The other thing about an in-call sting, they won’t invest any extra time on a guy requiring extra effort. They have to move guys in and out quickly. PM me her ad if you don’t mind.
Golfcart, thanks for the well thought out reply. Yes I did cancel the appointment because I felt uncomfortable.
I like your suggestion of meeting her somewhere for a drink first.
Regarding her reviewer, I forgot to mention that. The single review of this provider was the first and only review of this individual.. Another alarm bell.
Irishmut must have cancelled or this question would not be asked on this day in this context. Irishmut might contact her one reviewer about seeing her at her home and also check his review history.
Yes, that is quite odd. I catch myself doing the same thing as a method of organizing a discussion of multiple topics running several exchanges. The very last exchange becomes a complete organized “file” rendering prior e-mails surplus. It is an indication the actor has a very high IQ and a likely member of Mensa or maybe the actor is anal retentive. I understand there is a way to copy and paste the paragraphs in the proper order to avoid hand-typing it all but I haven’t figured it out yet.
Seems there are several possibilities here and LE isn’t the only one. She could be unaware of the dangling participles inherent to seeing guys in her home. She’s probably new and doesn’t realize a trail of guys will develop and draw attention of neighbors and kids out playing, neighbors sitting on their front porches and the like. Most will drive up and down the street or circle the block before getting the nerve to stop. Most will park a block away and walk to her door. Some will get the wrong door especially at night. She will also be easy prey for a stalker. It is not good for a girl to operate out of her home. For what it is worth I have never seen a reported sting of a hobbyist taking place at a private residence. Neighbors notice LE’s set-up activity, too. Also, a lot of girls do in-call at home. They haven’t learned.
I think Irishmut should trust his own gut first, last and always. For me, I would move things to the phone and have a frank discussion about the dangers of home in-call to judge her response. I would meet her for drinks at a bar with no agreement of anything to follow. LE will not go to a bar. I would arrive early to see her arrive. LE never travels alone. I would have her drive me to her home. LE will never let their woman get in a car with a guy alone. The other thing about an in-call sting, they won’t invest any extra time on a guy requiring extra effort. They have to move guys in and out quickly. PM me her ad if you don’t mind.
Saw a provider advertising on another board. Mature, but very cute pics, good rates. She had only joined a few days before and had one review.
I set up an appointment for that evening. First thing that hit me was that each reply to my e-mail repeated the text of my e-mail in the body of her reply, along with her reply. Hmmm that seemed odd.
Second thing that got me was when I asked where she was located, she gave me an exact address to her in call, which is at her home. Never met me before, never spoke to me on the phone, and I get all that information. The alarm bells went off for me at that point, thinking LE.
I wouldn't be paranoid if the world wasn't out to get me.
Tell me what you think.I've had all of those things happen and been fine. Some email services (those beginning with a single letter, most notably) will automatically quote previous replies; same with some smartphones if the provider is working from one of those.
That being said, if alarm bells are going off, I say don't do it. Some paranoia can be healthy.
SimonPieMan
09-18-10, 16:16
I'm just trying to give credit where credit is due. He was the first member to PM (accurately) me once I paid my dues and became a senior member. I read the board almost daily, post infrequently and partake in the hobby when cash flow and time permit. The good natured ribbing is amusing and I hope it continues.
Would I describe Assman as a mentor? Maybe, then maybe not. Since the thought of paying hard earned money for sub par performance really burns my ass, I'm grateful for all the valuable information that's available. And of course, thank you to EZ, Stimulus, Bucks, Wingman, Whodey, NkyGuy, et al. If Assman decides to hold court, maybe it should be at a round table, in an establishment that serves sparkling water that just happens to contain hops and barley. I would volunteer.
Cheers,
Simon the Pieman
Nkykinkyguy
09-18-10, 18:32
I have been in establishments with Assman. He can't stop drooling on himself while watching all the women long enough to hold court LOL! Sad be true.
KG
P.S. It does keep his bar tab low though. LOL!
I'm just trying to give credit where credit is due. He was the first member to PM (accurately) me once I paid my dues and became a senior member. I read the board almost daily, post infrequently and partake in the hobby when cash flow and time permit. The good natured ribbing is amusing and I hope it continues.
Would I describe Assman as a mentor? Maybe, then maybe not. Since the thought of paying hard earned money for sub par performance really burns my ass, I'm grateful for all the valuable information that's available. And of course, thank you to EZ, Stimulus, Bucks, Wingman, Whodey, NkyGuy, et al. If Assman decides to hold court, maybe it should be at a round table, in an establishment that serves sparkling water that just happens to contain hops and barley. I would volunteer.
Cheers,
Simon the Pieman
I went to see Lexie today for the first time since her child was born.
I want to preface this by saying I have met Lexie before and enjoyed it greatly- today not so much.
I met her where she is living instead of a hotel that has always been the case in the past. The house where she is at smells pretty badly of animals. We exchange our pleasantries and got to business. After a nice warm up I got the "let me get the condoms- go look in the drawer- oh I am out" At this point I am kicking myself because I don't have any (after reading the board I should know better).
She finished me up and then wanted to collect for an hour session. Umm no. I paid her for a half hour that wasn't what I wanted and left. Because of previous experience I will try again but I will wait till she is in a hotel again and make sure to be prepared (stupid stupid stupid)
SimonPieMan
09-18-10, 22:41
I have been in establishments with Assman. He can't stop drooling on himself while watching all the women long enough to hold court LOL! Sad be true.
KG
P.S. It does keep his bar tab low though. LOL!
Thanks for the humor KG. I almost spit my wine out while reading this before watching another team lose tonight. That's why I'm thinking of picking up Assman's bar tab. LOL BTW, WTF Assman, where are you? On another extended wood bender with 3-4 ladies?
SP
Member #3974
09-20-10, 19:43
My friend Simon I am lurking in the wings, shrouded in darkness. Actually just takin a break for a while, still talk to some of the guys, but nevertheless I am still around watching and listening. Happy hunting brother.
Thanks for the humor KG. I almost spit my wine out while reading this before watching another team lose tonight. That's why I'm thinking of picking up Assman's bar tab. LOL BTW, WTF Assman, where are you? On another extended wood bender with 3-4 ladies?
SP
Here is the update on that Naughty Bodies dancer.
http://www.journal-news.com/news/crime/dancer-charged-in-dragging-death-indicted-on-murder-theft-charges-933933.html
Makes you wonder how many times before she actually got away with this same scam.
MM
Lrc Metalhead
09-21-10, 13:45
I went to see Lexie today for the first time since her child was born.
I want to preface this by saying I have met Lexie before and enjoyed it greatly- today not so much.
I met her where she is living instead of a hotel that has always been the case in the past. The house where she is at smells pretty badly of animals. We exchange our pleasantries and got to business. After a nice warm up I got the "let me get the condoms- go look in the drawer- oh I am out" At this point I am kicking myself because I don't have any (after reading the board I should know better).
She finished me up and then wanted to collect for an hour session. Umm no. I paid her for a half hour that wasn't what I wanted and left. Because of previous experience I will try again but I will wait till she is in a hotel again and make sure to be prepared (stupid stupid stupid)Is this who you're speaking of? Cute girl if so.
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexxie-lexieyour-incall-service-28/5802470
Handiman66
09-23-10, 10:54
Sadly I keep missing any "round tables".............my travel schedule is a ***** but I have sampled goods round the globe :) ...........
Are any of us "mentors" ?? Naaaaahhh just happy horny guys sharing valuable intel. I spent 3 years based in D.C and I can tell you that is a hostile board. Baltimore not so bad. The nice thing about the folks here is there is not much if any arrogance.
HM
I'm just trying to give credit where credit is due. He was the first member to PM (accurately) me once I paid my dues and became a senior member. I read the board almost daily, post infrequently and partake in the hobby when cash flow and time permit. The good natured ribbing is amusing and I hope it continues.
Would I describe Assman as a mentor? Maybe, then maybe not. Since the thought of paying hard earned money for sub par performance really burns my ass, I'm grateful for all the valuable information that's available. And of course, thank you to EZ, Stimulus, Bucks, Wingman, Whodey, NkyGuy, et al. If Assman decides to hold court, maybe it should be at a round table, in an establishment that serves sparkling water that just happens to contain hops and barley. I would volunteer.
Cheers,
Simon the Pieman
Jay Malibu
09-23-10, 11:56
...I spent 3 years based in D.C...
HM
Dude! I'm so jealous. D.C. rocks. We live in hobby hell compared to D.C. I get there every once in a while. Stevie was my last trip there.
I love Bill's reports for not only the information in them, but for his wit and the self-deprecating way he tells on himself for some of the stuff that happens to him.
In that spirit let me just explain my night last night. First off, anyone lucky enough to hit the streets last night knows it was gorgeous out and there was all kinds of action, some in the usual places and more.
I was a little off my normal route, up on the hill by UC, actually sitting in a drive thru parking lot eating a hot dog when I saw this hot young black girl walk by in a hot pink miniskirt outfit. She was not my normal type, in fact I was bummed because I didn't think she was even a SW she looked so good. So I watched her walk and as I did I saw her strut and giving the look to passing cars. I figure this is TGTBT, maybe she is an SW, so I finish my dog and go in pursuit.
I figure I'll do a drive-by and check her out better and see if I get the look. I do, she looks good, better than I thought at first. Several mouth and face piercings, again, not my thing but looked good on her. So I go back and do a scoop. She gets in, has a sweet voice, tells me her name (which I've blocked from my mind) and asks what I'm looking for. I mention my fondness for head and she smiles and says she likes that too so we're off to the races. We find a fairly secure spot, I park and she starts rubbing me down below and asks me if I have .4. I say I only had .2 cause that is all I wanted and she said ok and started to get down to it. Very nice style, good job, all the kudos, I'm enjoying myself and start rubbing her ass. She moans a little and pulls her skirt up so I have better access and pushes my hand between her legs.
This is where my night started going off the tracks. I'm no expert, but there was more in "her" pants than I was expecting to find. At first I thought it was her lips but in retrospect think it was the folds of a ball sack, which kinda made mine shrivel up, and again now as I tell this.
I'm no homophobe, but this was NOT my idea of a good time and I went limp like a pasta noodle in a pot of boiling water. So I made excuses about being nervous and asked if there was somewhere I could drop her, and the quicker the better. She had me take her downtown, off Liberty and said thanked me and I drove off with the willies.
I cruised for a while and later saw "her" on the corner of Dunlap, as if there was any further doubt.
This is a cautionary tale folks. Yes, I know, DO YOUR CHECKS. lol
I hope this was as entertaining as one of Bill's posts, it may be my last for a while cause I'm not sure I can get it up for a while.
Nkykinkyguy
09-24-10, 13:40
Very entertaining Cinci Man,
I am sure you are not the first and won't be the last to be duped by a tranny but shouldn't this be posted in the streetwalkers report thread? Just wondering is all.
KG
I love Bill's reports for not only the information in them, but for his wit and the self-deprecating way he tells on himself for some of the stuff that happens to him.
In that spirit let me just explain my night last night. First off, anyone lucky enough to hit the streets last night knows it was gorgeous out and there was all kinds of action, some in the usual places and more.
I was a little off my normal route, up on the hill by UC, actually sitting in a drive thru parking lot eating a hot dog when I saw this hot young black girl walk by in a hot pink miniskirt outfit. She was not my normal type, in fact I was bummed because I didn't think she was even a SW she looked so good. So I watched her walk and as I did I saw her strut and giving the look to passing cars. I figure this is TGTBT, maybe she is an SW, so I finish my dog and go in pursuit.
I figure I'll do a drive-by and check her out better and see if I get the look. I do, she looks good, better than I thought at first. Several mouth and face piercings, again, not my thing but looked good on her. So I go back and do a scoop. She gets in, has a sweet voice, tells me her name (which I've blocked from my mind) and asks what I'm looking for. I mention my fondness for head and she smiles and says she likes that too so we're off to the races. We find a fairly secure spot, I park and she starts rubbing me down below and asks me if I have .4. I say I only had .2 cause that is all I wanted and she said ok and started to get down to it. Very nice style, good job, all the kudos, I'm enjoying myself and start rubbing her ass. She moans a little and pulls her skirt up so I have better access and pushes my hand between her legs.
This is where my night started going off the tracks. I'm no expert, but there was more in "her" pants than I was expecting to find. At first I thought it was her lips but in retrospect think it was the folds of a ball sack, which kinda made mine shrivel up, and again now as I tell this.
I'm no homophobe, but this was NOT my idea of a good time and I went limp like a pasta noodle in a pot of boiling water. So I made excuses about being nervous and asked if there was somewhere I could drop her, and the quicker the better. She had me take her downtown, off Liberty and said thanked me and I drove off with the willies.
I cruised for a while and later saw "her" on the corner of Dunlap, as if there was any further doubt.
This is a cautionary tale folks. Yes, I know, DO YOUR CHECKS. lol
I hope this was as entertaining as one of Bill's posts, it may be my last for a while cause I'm not sure I can get it up for a while.
Member #4523
09-24-10, 14:11
I'm honored that you refer to your post as "Fanta-esque!" You have my style down pat and I couldn't have written it better myself.
And I applaud your courage in making a post about this kind of mistake. I picked up a black tranny by mistake last year but I was embarrassed about my error and didn't post about it. After that, if there is any doubt about their gender, I just ask for proof right away. One BSW (Tina) was really insulted that I asked, I guess because she was pretty flat up top.
I haven't done or seen anything of much interest lately, so I'm glad to see someone is out there gathering material for posts! :>)
SimonPieMan
09-28-10, 22:42
Keep it going. Maybe the girls should offer a Reds special?
SP
Was looking at the enquirer today and saw that summer4fun46 had passed away on 9/16/2010. Saw her last year and she was a very very nice lady, person and made you feel like a lifelong friend. Wish i could have gotten to know her better. Article said she died at home suddenly. Sad to say I will miss her!!!
Wingman Todd
09-29-10, 21:42
Over the past several weeks and/or months I have noticed a flood of nubies on this board. I understand that may happen from time to time. Hell, we all were there at one time! But what hasn't happened in the past is the speed they are pushing to break out of the gate. Asking pointed questions, not reading RTFF's, expecting to be able to immediatedly see established providers (with no credible reviews at that!), thinking the SEniors may vouch for them, and posting lame reviews with providers who don't thoroughly and safely reference. And I think most of us knows who does and who doesn't!
I have spoken with several very seasoned and respected hobbyists about this before posting and they share my sentiments. We know the Le is stepping up survilence due to the pending casino downtown. Right now, more with the SW'ers, but you can bet it will soon overflow elsewhere. Am I a bit paranoid? Maybe. But I have a gut feeling this board is being infiltrated and all should proceed with caution for now. Remember what happened with the Houston monger party busts. To all Seniors, be cautious with your reviews and watch what you write. Defer added details to other seasoned seniors (or known regular members who have shared valuable intel) and invite to PM.
Something like: I saw ABC today. Awesome - the real deal. Seniors or regular members with 20 + posts (with valid reviews) pm me for details. (Or in Whodey's case, I saw ABC, followed by DEF and GHI today. Exhausting, but memorable times. PM me for details and I will respond in a few days when I recover!! LOL)
For those of you who have been around, remember this past April when Paradox60 was called out as the LE? Haven't heard squat from that weasel since.
Listen, I know I have been the first to jump on here and give rave reviews in the past. But that is going to be VERY watered down for the time being. Just my concerned thoughts for me, you and the seasoned providers. Seniors, your comments and feelings on this?
WM
Lrc Metalhead
09-29-10, 21:53
I feel included in this and will do what I can to quit being a noob. I love this board and have been looking for something like it for a long time. I only stumbled upon this site while clicking through some other sites, was not even trying to find it at the time. Anyway-the point is, i'm trying to catch up on about 2 years worth of personal hope that something like this place existed and, well, ya-I want to hook up with the top girl possible, not start with the low end and work up.
Over the past several weeks and/or months I have noticed a flood of nubies on this board. I understand that may happen from time to time. Hell, we all were there at one time! But what hasn't happened in the past is the speed they are pushing to break out of the gate. Asking pointed questions, not reading RTFF's, expecting to be able to immediatedly see established providers (with no credible reviews at that!), thinking the SEniors may vouch for them, and posting lame reviews with providers who don't thoroughly and safely reference. And I think most of us knows who does and who doesn't!
I have spoken with several very seasoned and respected hobbyists about this before posting and they share my sentiments. We know the Le is stepping up survilence due to the pending casino downtown. Right now, more with the SW'ers, but you can bet it will soon overflow elsewhere. Am I a bit paranoid? Maybe. But I have a gut feeling this board is being infiltrated and all should proceed with caution for now. Remember what happened with the Houston monger party busts. To all Seniors, be cautious with your reviews and watch what you write. Defer added details to other seasoned seniors (or known regular members who have shared valuable intel) and invite to PM.
Something like: I saw ABC today. Awesome - the real deal. Seniors or regular members with 20 + posts (with valid reviews) pm me for details. (Or in Whodey's case, I saw ABC, followed by DEF and GHI today. Exhausting, but memorable times. PM me for details and I will respond in a few days when I recover!! LOL)
For those of you who have been around, remember this past April when Paradox60 was called out as the LE? Haven't heard squat from that weasel since.
Listen, I know I have been the first to jump on here and give rave reviews in the past. But that is going to be VERY watered down for the time being. Just my concerned thoughts for me, you and the seasoned providers. Seniors, your comments and feelings on this?
WM
Member #3995
09-30-10, 07:15
Just remember to that some of us don't have the funds to see people very often so it's hard to get past the newbie status. It's a catch 22 for some of us. But in saying that I don't blame anyone for being overly cautious.
SM
Over the past several weeks and/or months I have noticed a flood of nubies on this board. I understand that may happen from time to time. Hell, we all were there at one time! But what hasn't happened in the past is the speed they are pushing to break out of the gate. Asking pointed questions, not reading RTFF's, expecting to be able to immediatedly see established providers (with no credible reviews at that!), thinking the SEniors may vouch for them, and posting lame reviews with providers who don't thoroughly and safely reference. And I think most of us knows who does and who doesn't!
I have spoken with several very seasoned and respected hobbyists about this before posting and they share my sentiments. We know the Le is stepping up survilence due to the pending casino downtown. Right now, more with the SW'ers, but you can bet it will soon overflow elsewhere. Am I a bit paranoid? Maybe. But I have a gut feeling this board is being infiltrated and all should proceed with caution for now. Remember what happened with the Houston monger party busts. To all Seniors, be cautious with your reviews and watch what you write. Defer added details to other seasoned seniors (or known regular members who have shared valuable intel) and invite to PM.
Something like: I saw ABC today. Awesome - the real deal. Seniors or regular members with 20 + posts (with valid reviews) pm me for details. (Or in Whodey's case, I saw ABC, followed by DEF and GHI today. Exhausting, but memorable times. PM me for details and I will respond in a few days when I recover!! LOL)
For those of you who have been around, remember this past April when Paradox60 was called out as the LE? Haven't heard squat from that weasel since.
Listen, I know I have been the first to jump on here and give rave reviews in the past. But that is going to be VERY watered down for the time being. Just my concerned thoughts for me, you and the seasoned providers. Seniors, your comments and feelings on this?
WM
I guess I am in the nubies category as far as USA but not to the hobby. In the past I used eros and never had any problems. I then tried to use b/p and got burnt 2 times. Found this site by accident and I love it. Personally I would like to keep my money here locally and help out our local ladies. I think its great the ladies are checking everyone carefully. That should help keep out the riff raff and LE. Any senors on here that want to check me out pm me and I will be glad to let you check me out. Until then senors keep up you good work on here and look forward to meeting you guys sometime.
Nkykinkyguy
09-30-10, 13:38
Consider this topic moved to the general reports thread LOL!
KG
Nkykinkyguy
09-30-10, 14:22
I can appreciate your sentiments SM,
We all have cash flow issues from time to time. But I think WM is more referring to new board members that try and make a huge splash in the beginning (Smells like LEO the lion) or ones that are not willing to put the time in to reading the entire forum before asking for intel on providers that have been reviewed here at nauseam.
We were all new at one time, it is how we integrate ourselves into this community that makes us a newbie to be cautious of or a new person that is willing to put the time effort and energy (notice I never said money) into being a contributing asset to this board.
Spend your money wisely by doing your homework here first. Then come back and tell us what a great time (Hopefully) that you had. And if it wasn't so great tell us that too.
KG
Just remember to that some of us don't have the funds to see people very often so it's hard to get past the newbie status. It's a catch 22 for some of us. But in saying that I don't blame anyone for being overly cautious.
SM
Heyrupert14
09-30-10, 22:26
Well most of my posts are over on the strip clubs listing but I do take time to read and enjoy as many of the posts as I can. Even to a slower to write member I get annoyed with the newbie stupidity. It only takes a little time and effort to read through the forum posts so that you can ask intelligent questions. So my wonder is whether or not the newbie flood are really that stupid or if it is really Leo. I hope newbies really are not that stupid. LOL
Wingman Todd
09-30-10, 23:37
Anexec,
Yes you are among a few in this catagory. I am not in the least afraid to call you on this. Well my obvious question will be that if you were doing so well with Eros, why the fuck did you dumb down yourself and go to b/p? And you found this site by "accident"? Give me a break. There are many local gals on Eros that you still could be keeping the dollars local and not donating big money. I for one want to know the Eros ladies you claim to have seen and post it publically for all to see. Right now I must admit, this smells. If I am wrong, and you have ladies that can verify you, I will post a very public appoligy. So put it up or go away. Guess I am taking the Assman's hard line stance to protect the intrigrity of this board!
WM
I guess I am in the nubies category as far as USA but not to the hobby. In the past I used eros and never had any problems. I then tried to use b/p and got burnt 2 times. Found this site by accident and I love it. Personally I would like to keep my money here locally and help out our local ladies. I think its great the ladies are checking everyone carefully. That should help keep out the riff raff and LE. Any senors on here that want to check me out pm me and I will be glad to let you check me out. Until then senors keep up you good work on here and look forward to meeting you guys sometime.
Wingman Todd
10-01-10, 13:34
As I promised if I was wrong, I'd apologize to Anexec. I was wrong and I'll be the first to admit it. He sent me a thoughtful and up front pm. I did a bit of research on his info given to me and all checked out. I gave him a call during lunch at his work place (as he offered for me to call) and had a damn fine conversation. Turns out he's not really new to hobbying, just the usa board. He share's our concerns about the safety for all and about the possible LE invasion. The only thing I will share of our conversation is this (as it shows he's been there, done that and I don't think he'd mind): before he found the usa board he got ripped off by - (guess who?) - the notorious Taylor Rain! Said it was quite scary. I told him about the Assman story of how he turned the tables and stung her! Had a few laughs over that. Another testiment for new members RTFF's to learn of our past experiences and to steer you from the scams/rip-off queens!
The long and short of it is I'm glad I made that phone call to him and I expect we will be seeing some goods posts and intel in the future. He's a good guy and fun to chat with! So this boat is righted and full steam ahead.
WingmanTodd
Thanks WM. Appreciacte the conversation we had and look forward to meeting up with ya sometime in the future. Thanks for all the posts you and other senors make to help some of us out. Will do my best to do the same.
Thanks again,
Anexec
Hardlikker
10-02-10, 21:55
Was cruising Madison when I saw Misty, about 30 with blonde hair and glasses, about 5-4. Looked like she had a belly, possibly PG. Anway we agreed on .40 for F/S. She definitely had a lot of nasty attitude going on, she wouldn't talk and when we got to the hotel she really wanted to rush things. Lots of no touching areas. A mistake, would not repeat. Just a warning to avoid this one.
Member #3974
10-03-10, 10:32
First off thanks to Jackson for all his hard work, and for a great site. Things have happened and I have decided that I am done with all this. Please delete my account because I will not see anyone else so I will not have any intel to share. Had to step back and things things through.
Have a great day.
You'll be missed.
First off thanks to Jackson for all his hard work, and for a great site. Things have happened and I have decided that I am done with all this. Please delete my account because I will not see anyone else so I will not have any intel to share. Had to step back and things things through.
Have a great day.
Nkykinkyguy
10-05-10, 09:21
Assman is like a bad summer cold. Never seems to go away LOL! He will probably haunt me when he dies. LOL!
You'll be missed.
Wingman Todd
10-05-10, 09:56
Unfortunately, from talking with him this morning, this is it - he's done. Sorry to see him go from the board. Very valuable Senior member to lose. We all will miss his wit and charm (cough, cough)!
WM
Assman is like a bad summer cold. Never seems to go away LOL! He will probably haunt me when he dies. LOL!
Member #3995
10-06-10, 13:08
Love the new look to this site. Nice job whoever you are!
Member #4523
10-07-10, 07:15
First off thanks to Jackson for all his hard work, and for a great site. Things have happened and I have decided that I am done with all this. Please delete my account because I will not see anyone else so I will not have any intel to share. Had to step back and things things through.
Have a great day. I don't know you personally, but I have enjoyed your posts and trusted the intel within them. I too have been considering a withdrawal from the hobby, or at least from the SW scene. My 69th birthday probably had something to do with these thoughts. In any case, I hope things work out well for you.
I 2nd this.
Love the new look to this site. Nice job whoever you are!
Nkykinkyguy
10-07-10, 21:52
I just wanted to take a moment and pass on some alarming information that has been passed along to me. As most of you know I do most of my communications via PM or actual contact via phone or face to face. I try and contribute important information on the open board but do not post abundance there as I am extremely diligent in keeping the confidences that have been passed along to me. I do try and steer everyone that contacts me in the right direction.
It has come to my attention from extremely reputable sources that there are providers and their handlers (Pimps, boyfriends, drug buddies) that are getting personal information from hobbyists and threatened to expose them to employers and family members. Guys, keep your personal and private information just that, personal and private. Don't give them credit cards, driver's license, home address or work information. If you are meeting them at a hotel put the room in their name with their information. I had one hobby friend say that 'Then they get to use the room I paid for free. ' Who gives a rat's ass if she makes money after you are gone and got yours? It is way better to keep your stuff private then her getting a copy of the bill with your name and address or credit card information on it slipped under the door the next morning long after you are gone.
Protect yourselves at all times. Don't worry about someone making over at the risk of you getting caught. Times are tough and some people are getting desperate. I would not post this if it was one isolated instance. I know of multiple (as in more than three) instances where basically a blackmail situation has occurred in the last month. Luckily I have not been hit but for those that have it has been extremely traumatic.
Get serious guys, protect yourselves at all cost. I have said this many times before stay with the tried and true local girls and stop tripping over yourselves to throw money at the next pretty face that pops up on Back page or e dot com. And yes one was on e dot com also so don't think it is only a Back page issue.
KG
Wingman Todd
10-07-10, 22:07
All should pay attention to this post. Seniors and nubies. We have discussed this for for some time of the board! Know who you are with!
WM.
I just wanted to take a moment and pass on some alarming information that has been passed along to me. As most of you know I do most of my communications via PM or actual contact via phone or face to face. I try and contribute important information on the open board but do not post abundance there as I am extremely diligent in keeping the confidences that have been passed along to me. I do try and steer everyone that contacts me in the right direction.
It has come to my attention from extremely reputable sources that there are providers and their handlers (Pimps, boyfriends, drug buddies) that are getting personal information from hobbyists and threatened to expose them to employers and family members. Guys, keep your personal and private information just that, personal and private. Don't give them credit cards, driver's license, home address or work information. If you are meeting them at a hotel put the room in their name with their information. I had one hobby friend say that 'Then they get to use the room I paid for free. ' Who gives a rat's ass if she makes money after you are gone and got yours? It is way better to keep your stuff private then her getting a copy of the bill with your name and address or credit card information on it slipped under the door the next morning long after you are gone.
Protect yourselves at all times. Don't worry about someone making over at the risk of you getting caught. Times are tough and some people are getting desperate. I would not post this if it was one isolated instance. I know of multiple (as in more than three) instances where basically a blackmail situation has occurred in the last month. Luckily I have not been hit but for those that have it has been extremely traumatic.
Get serious guys, protect yourselves at all cost. I have said this many times before stay with the tried and true local girls and stop tripping over yourselves to throw money at the next pretty face that pops up on Back page or e dot com. And yes one was on e dot com also so don't think it is only a Back page issue.
KG
Lady Lashay
10-07-10, 23:32
Assman is like a bad summer cold. Never seems to go away LOL! He will probably haunt me when he dies. LOL!Dam Just when we were (well none your Business)
Hope he still has my number
Lady Lashay
All,
Some of the info that KG discusses was from a bad experience I had 6 weeks ago. He asked if he could use it and I said yes. Please be careful. I was amazed how good the two girls and their friend worked (via text messages) and how fast it happened and am still trying to repair the damage. Be careful and do protect your "personal information".
Thanks for the post KG.
Roger.
I just wanted to take a moment and pass on some alarming information that has been passed along to me. As most of you know I do most of my communications via PM or actual contact via phone or face to face. I try and contribute important information on the open board but do not post abundance there as I am extremely diligent in keeping the confidences that have been passed along to me. I do try and steer everyone that contacts me in the right direction.
It has come to my attention from extremely reputable sources that there are providers and their handlers (Pimps, boyfriends, drug buddies) that are getting personal information from hobbyists and threatened to expose them to employers and family members. Guys, keep your personal and private information just that, personal and private. Don't give them credit cards, driver's license, home address or work information. If you are meeting them at a hotel put the room in their name with their information. I had one hobby friend say that 'Then they get to use the room I paid for free. ' Who gives a rat's ass if she makes money after you are gone and got yours? It is way better to keep your stuff private then her getting a copy of the bill with your name and address or credit card information on it slipped under the door the next morning long after you are gone.
Protect yourselves at all times. Don't worry about someone making over at the risk of you getting caught. Times are tough and some people are getting desperate. I would not post this if it was one isolated instance. I know of multiple (as in more than three) instances where basically a blackmail situation has occurred in the last month. Luckily I have not been hit but for those that have it has been extremely traumatic.
Get serious guys, protect yourselves at all cost. I have said this many times before stay with the tried and true local girls and stop tripping over yourselves to throw money at the next pretty face that pops up on Back page or e dot com. And yes one was on e dot com also so don't think it is only a Back page issue.
KG
Nkykinkyguy
10-08-10, 09:23
Very strong of you to step up Rog. You didn't have to. I think most here trust my information. But I commend you for your courage. Many are too embarrassed to put themselves out there for criticism when something bad happens. I understand that totally and hold no disrespect towards them as it is their choice but since this has happened many times in the last two months I felt it needed to get out there.
Rog is not the only one going through this. Trust me there are more and the scary part is that it was never the same provider. There are more out there doing this every week, not just one bad skank. They are going beyond being rip-off queens and venturing into extortion. Guys just are not posting it. So please protect yourself or it will come back to haunt you.
KG.
Rog, you are still the man my friend. Budweiser on me next time. You deserve it.
All,
Some of the info that KG discusses was from a bad experience I had 6 weeks ago. He asked if he could use it and I said yes. Please be careful. I was amazed how good the two girls and their friend worked (via text messages) and how fast it happened and am still trying to repair the damage. Be careful and do protect your "personal information".
Thanks for the post KG.
Roger.
Jay Malibu
10-08-10, 09:31
There are more out there doing this every week, not just one bad skank. They are going beyond being rip-off queens and venturing into extortion.So can anyone name names or post links to ads? I am usually not one to TOFTT (my apologies but I've overly cautious), so I will not see someone unless there is a reasonable history of trust. I would be nice to know if some were trusted providers and doing this. Thanks.
JM
Nkykinkyguy
10-08-10, 10:25
Chester67 got us started with his rip-off post today. So that is a good start.
Jay you have to remember that these skanks have our friend's personal information. If they out them here and then find out about it then these girls can continue to make their lives hell.
I would never ask these guys to make a horrible situation worse just so that they could name names to make it easier for us. I totally understand everyone's need for safety and anonymity but naming names is not possible in this particular situation. If it was I would have posted it in every thread here.
Just be careful, stay with known well reviewed local girls or providers that are referred to you by trusted members here or where ever you have that connection.
But this is not the time or the place to name names. Jay, if one of these skanks had your personal information I. E. Home phone / address, work name / address, wife's name / home phone number and was threatening your personal life or livelihood would you be on here naming names? Would you want someone else to be naming names with your personal information at risk?
I don't think so. My message is 'Protect yourself and be smart and safe. ' This is a situation where we all need to be smart use all of the resources at our disposal, rely on our friends here and stay with the know providers. It just makes sense.
KG.
So can anyone name names or post links to ads? I am usually not one to TOFTT (my apologies but I've overly cautious, so I will not see someone unless there is a reasonable history of trust. I would be nice to know if some were trusted providers and doing this. Thanks.
JM
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