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I was really struck by this LE decoy. She could easily be one of our better OTR SWs!:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39652
The picture was taken from a post by Member #1658 in St. Petersburg:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=524050&postcount=429
I took that opportunity (on the St. Petersburg board) to remind that board of my 13 rules, and that violating rule #5 with THIS decoy would land you in the back of a cruiser!!! Here is the latest version of my 13 rules (note #5):
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=524144&postcount=430
Everyone be safe out there--and learn from the sometimes painful lessons I have learned!
Giani
P.S. Hey--do I get kudos for posting my 300th post??? Thanx in advance (he said, breaking his arm patting his own back.)
Pictraders69
05-03-07, 12:45
I was really struck by this LE decoy. She could easily be one of our better OTR SWs!:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=39652
The picture was taken from a post by Member #1658 in St. Petersburg:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=524050&postcount=429
I took that opportunity (on the St. Petersburg board) to remind that board of my 13 rules, and that violating rule #5 with THIS decoy would land you in the back of a cruiser!!! Here is the latest version of my 13 rules (note #5):
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=524144&postcount=430
Everyone be safe out there--and learn from the sometimes painful lessons I have learned!
Giani
P.S. Hey--do I get kudos for posting my 300th post??? Thanx in advance (he said, breaking his arm patting his own back.)
Kudos Giani ! We're looing forward to the next 300
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I have again heard that Tuesdays and Thursdays are days that Operation focuses on Over-the-Rhine. This past Thursday, SOMETHING big was going down on McMillian across from the church (near the auto repair place). TEN LE cars (both City and Sheriff cruisers) were having a cluster f*ck. I have attached a picture. If you have a choice, I would be extra cautious on Tues and Thurs.
Also, saw an SW on Vine and McM (remarkably hot--but with a dude nearby) and another also with her dude near by. I do not know either of these SWs--anyone recognize them?
Giani
I have again heard that Tuesdays and Thursdays are days that Operation focuses Over-the-Rhine. This past Thursday, SOMETHING big was going down on McMillian across from the church. Ten LE cars (both City and Sheriff cruisers). I have attached a picture. If you have a choice, I would be extra cautious on Tues and Thurs.
Also, saw an SW on Vine and McM, and another with her dude near by. I do not know either of these SWs--anyone recognize them?
GianiI don't know what was going on Thursday but there were 5-6 cars out Tuesday afternoon on Liberty at Vine by the school. Had a couple neighborhood guys on the steps getting a lot of attention but it didn't look SW connected so I didn't mention it. I was down through the area Friday night and there were a fair number of SWs around and I didn't see a single LE anywhere. None made my heart flutter in that "do-me" way so I decided to save time and money (that's big head talking. Little head was saying "WTF you thinking chit-head. Get on one").
The girl in the middle pic has been around for the past couple weeks or so, usually up in the McM stretch around Vine, sometimes over around Elm/Henry. She's usually with some guy who's so close it looks like he's going to jump in the car too so I've been taking a pass. Looks like you found some time when Jack & Jill split up for a while. We'll see if it's permanent next week.
Also, since I notice you show up checking out other cities. Take a look at Baltimore and Philly if you haven't already. They are some serious mongers and posters (check out that SW index by name and year including pictures and reviews for each. It's like a SW Google index).
Have a good one (or two).
Dz
Mr Boombastic
05-06-07, 12:03
This is my first post, just to let people see and know my name. I am more of a reader than a poster, but from time to time I will post some pix and information, but I prefer to keep silent. In this way I can learn from the Senior members and People from the other Forums.
And "no" I am not a cop or le. This you will know in time!
Mr. BoomBastic
Hey Bro,
Just read your latest reports. Actually, I was reading Tampa board when I saw your reports.
It is great to have you in this forum. I just wanted to show appreciation for you and all contributors. Congratulations on breaking 300 counts and they were all worth study and reading.
I have updated some guides (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3280) and would quote (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=524985#post524985) in your latest guide.
Wish you many happy successful banging, enjoyable, memorable orgasmic, ... with whoever, whatever, whenever and however dates and me too :)
J
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=524144&postcount=430
Everyone be safe out there--and learn from the sometimes painful lessons I have learned!
Giani
P.S. Hey--do I get kudos for posting my 300th post??? Thanx in advance (he said, breaking his arm patting his own back.)
Mr Boombastic
05-07-07, 12:43
Here is a few pic's to help the day go by.
But I did check out the streets this weekend and I did not see all the SW's posted about. I did cruise at all times of the day and night, and the streets were empty. The ones that were out were not worth picking up.
Anyway. This is what I did find by accident and she schooled me on where to look and what to look for and who is who, along with who is in jail. Alot of them are now in jail. And some of them are in big time trouble.
Well thank for reading.
Cleveland Report
05-09-07, 10:15
Was wondering if you fellow mongerers might be able to give me a heads up. A starting address and direction should be enough for me to get started.
Post or PM.
Thanks
In response to board as well as PM requests (see below), here is my latest version of the OTR map. While I am concerned that information presented on this board could plausibly be used by LE, here is a map of a recommended cruising route in OTR which is most likely to give you a tour of street life. Start at Liberty and McMicken (station 1), and follow the numbers through 10. Remember that Dunlap, just off McMicken near the park, is notorious for TVs (at station 2).
For anyone who might be interested in MEETING an SW who might be seen on this cruise route, please read my "Mongering 101" 13 rules so you don't cause yourself or the SW grief. Here is the latest iteration of those rules, posted on the St Petersburg board:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=524144#post524144
If anyone thinks this post is TMI, let me know. But don't you think LE knows ALL this stuff already. Shouldn't we?
If anyone thinks this post is TMI, let me know. But don't you think LE knows ALL this stuff already. Shouldn't we? Dr. G. Thanks for all the effort you put into mapping out a drive through OTR. Between your map posts and rules posts, I appreciate the advice and I don't think you're teaching LE anything they don't already know so my vote is that this post does not fall into the TMI category.
Ran through OTR Wednesday mid afternoon and it was busy. Interesting Latina looking HSW, 7/10 long dark hair sitting up around Elm/Henry. Saw her a couple times before, both times at that corner, and circled the block but she was just driving off with one of you guys as I came around the corner. She definately looks like she's worth a ride but I'm not a big fan of picking up anyone I'm seeing for the first time. I like a little visual history to increase the odds she's for real.
Met Cora on Walnut below Liberty. WSW late 30's, 8/10 from a distance but ended up being about 5/10 sittin' in the seat. After a quick LE check we talked options. She mentioned her room out in Florence ( 25 minute drive). Waaaaay to far on my schedule. Then she mentioned a guy's house she knows "nearby" that we can use. She stays with him once and a while and he's "out front working". Then she gives me the street name, one of the busiest druggie side streets in OTR near the Shell, and all I can think is "right. He's out tendin' the garden? ". Gotta love a SW with a sense of humor. In the end, we find a quite side street away from OTR for a good BBBJCIM for. 25. I'd repeat but not sure I'd make the FS investment here.
I also noticed that LE was virtually non-existent. Cora mentioned that the whole department moved up to Avondale looking for the jerks throwing bircks at school buses visiting the Zoo. As soon as that's over. They'll be back I'm sure so don't get cocky (about LE that is).
Have a good one.
Dz
Had an opportunity to run through OTR Thursday morning early (around 6:15am) and noticed our new Latina looking SW was sittin' on her usual door step at Elm/Henry. Otherwise, the entire neighborhood was dead, dead and dead in that order. Unfortunatly, no time to stop but 3-4 sightings in a week tells me she's new to the area and for real. If anyone know her, it's time to speak up! :-)
Have a great day.
Dz
Amp Middleman
05-10-07, 18:23
Dude,
Why would you post something like this. Should be sent by PM.
I had a return trip to Cinci for the first time in a while. OTR was different, not as much action and not as much of it good....BUT...
I spotted a girl (WSW) this AM that I'd seen hanging out at the gas station by the White Castle in Covington the night before. Circled, picked her up, talked, and drove up on the hill for a quick BBBJ. She wasn't anxious to finish it, but was friendly and "chatty" so I didn't get mad and just took her back. She was amazed that I recognized her. I was amazed she'd gone from Covington to the OTR in about 6 hours.
Minutes later I spotted Jennifer (Jenny) by the Shell station, picked her up, and wow what a find. I didn't see prior posts on her, but I thought she was very pretty, tall trim, wsw, reddish blonde hair, very sweet and VERY skilled. $30 BBBJ and one of the best I've had. Parked with her in teh exact spot I'd been in 20 minutes prior. Afterwards, she took me on a tour of the OTR and showed me exactly where she likes to hang out. Nice...very nice.
The last times I'd been in the OTR, I connected a few times with a pretty blonde named Charlotte. I found out where she lived and picked her up a few times. Jenny was as pretty, but taller. No idea where Charlotte went.
Jenny had no digits, rats.
HHH
I have gotten some criticisms both on the board and by PM for posting my cruising map. Remember that I posted a similar map a year or so ago... Here, if necessary, is my defense (alluded to in my previous post):
LE patrols all over the OTR area which I posted. We see them everywhere, right? And SWs do not magically disappear from view when LE drives by. Do we think LE is less able to spot SWs than we are? Do they not know the places the SWs are most likely to do the walk? Indeed, don't they know who they are as well, or better than we?
If my map gives them info they did not have previously, I apologize to fellow mongers. But wouldn't that mean that uncle LEO is even more dim witted than we thought. I give LE more credit than that, deserved or not. I fail to see how my map is of significant benefit to LE.
So--to both the old timers who are alarmed, and even the rank novices who question my post--do you REALLY think I have given info which was new to LE? If so, sorry. I constantly struggle with how much or how little info to post on this board. Take a look at other boards to see how detailed their posts are. They are much more explicit than mine. This includes cities the size of Cincinnati, or even smaller. I say this because it has been suggested that because Cincinnati is "a small town," we shouldn't post detailed info.
Actually, I would like to see a map LE would post!!! There was a guy in Columbus a while back who knew how to collect info on busts of SWs for soliciting, and he mapped them on a city map. Is there anyone who knows how to do that for Cincinnati and would be willing to do THAT for us?
Humbly yours,
Giani
Dude,
Why would you post something like this. Should be sent by PM.
My two cents...
There's absolutely nothing wrong with posting that map. LE drives the area 24/7. Much more than any of us (I assume). They know what's going on. Anyone that thinks othewise is naive. If someone thinks that posting the map somehow puts them at risk in being spotted by LE, then they aren't taking the appropriate level of percautions. LE already watches the traffic. If they see the same car turn right at Elm and McMikken twice while they're sitting in the nearby lot, they will usually pull out and folllow it. They assume you're either cruising for drugs or hookers.
We just had this same argument on this board for my home area. Fortunately, reason prevailed, and we're still getting decent information posted (although no details that would put a provider in jeopordy).
Had an opportunity to run through OTR Thursday morning early (around 6:15am) and noticed our new Latina looking SW was sittin' on her usual door step at Elm/Henry. Otherwise, the entire neighborhood was dead, dead and dead in that order. Unfortunatly, no time to stop but 3-4 sightings in a week tells me she's new to the area and for real. If anyone know her, it's time to speak up! :-)
Dz
I saw someone that might have been her a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday morning, but she was sitting on Dunlap near Henry. She looked good, but given the reputation on that street for TS, I didn't stop (there were two others on the street at the same time).
I saw someone that might have been her a couple of weeks ago on a Sunday morning, but she was sitting on Dunlap near Henry. She looked good, but given the reputation on that street for TS, I didn't stop (there were two others on the street at the same time).I usually see her either on the steps at Elm/Henry or walking between Elm/Race on Henry but I don't usually bother with the Dunlap stretch for the reason you mentioned. Looks like she just paces Henry to walk off the boredom. Nothing about her has that over the top "girly" thing I usually connect with the OTR TS crowd. I also see her hanging around shootin' the chit with some of the old guys who sit on the west side of Elm in their lawn chairs most of the day. While they seem pretty harmless, they don't look much like the local adopt-a-TS kind of crowd. My money says she's the real thing and it appears that I'll need to TOFTT over the next couple weeks to verify. :-)
Hope I don't have to eat my words !
Have a great day.
Dz
I have gotten some criticisms both on the board and by PM for posting my cruising map. Remember that I posted a similar map a year or so ago... Here, if necessary, is my defense (alluded to in my previous post):
LE patrols all over the OTR area which I posted. We see them everywhere, right? And SWs do not magically disappear from view when LE drives by. Do we think LE is less able to spot SWs than we are? Do they not know the places the SWs are most likely to do the walk? Indeed, don't they know who they are as well, or better than we?G,
I think your logic is right on target and, as I said before, I support sharing this level of information. I'm sure LE knows the name, rank and serial number of everyone "working" their area. I'm in OTR probably 2 hours a week max and I know most of the faces & places. They're in OTR 8-10 hours a DAY 4-5 days/week. With what they know they could probably teach us a lesson or two. Why would you post something like this in the forum? Only to help other mongers. And that's a pretty good reason. Thanks.
I end up in several cities for work so I keep up with some of the other forums. There's a lot more information (including pictures) floating around most of them. Both bigger and smaller cities. Take a look at Indy, Philly, or Baltimore as couple examples.
Obviously, it's possible that there's just more activity in those cites but I think it's that there is more openness among the members and more of a sense of community among the mongers. I know. Sounds a little weird. But you can tell those guys know their girls, know their neighborhoods, and seem to know each other. We're still getting there in Sinsinnati and folks like G being willing to share what they know can only help. End of philosophical BS:.)
I looked at the Clerks site thinking about the bust map (no pun intended) and doesn't look like there's an easy way to do this. Columbus guy may have had inside access to the court records or the county up there has a different kind of search capability. The only way I could figure out to do it here is a day-by-day reading of the records and that gets old real fast. Great idea but unless someone can figure out how to do an easy search by charges (it may be there and I just missed it), I don't see this one happening.
Have a great day and keep posting.
Dz
Because Henry is a "hotbed," (don't you love it?), often with lots of possibilities, be VERY careful. I know of mongers who have been pulled over on Henry just because they had a girl in the car. LE hassled them, told the guy he would haul him in if he saw him there again, gave the girl the 3rd degree. For this reason, I do not even mark Henry on my cruising map.
FIRST, before even thinking about making a pick up, note all possible LE in the visual range (city, sheriff or unmarked...). Then, as for ALL areas, catch her eye, and pull out of sight onto a side street where you are unlikely to be observed. Henry is NOT a good bet for this.
Giani
I usually see her either on the steps at Elm/Henry or walking between Elm/Race on Henry but I don't usually bother with the Dunlap stretch for the reason you mentioned. Looks like she just paces Henry to walk off the boredom. Nothing about her has that over the top "girly" thing I usually connect with the OTR TS crowd. I also see her hanging around shootin' the chit with some of the old guys who sit on the west side of Elm in their lawn chairs most of the day. While they seem pretty harmless, they don't look much like the local adopt-a-TS kind of crowd. My money says she's the real thing and it appears that I'll need to TOFTT over the next couple weeks to verify. :-)
Hope I don't have to eat my words !
Have a great day.
Dz
Went to Angel Body Rubs, which isn't really a place but more like meeting one of their girls in KY and finding a motel. Saw one of their girls and got a body rub for 250. Pretty over priced for what you get. Decent looking girl, but not great value for the money. No FS, no french, but happy ending provided. They advertise in CL.
Yesterday, I got spam in my email addressed to "Giani." This forum, USASG, is the only forum in which I use that handle, and the email address used to register for it is for very limited use. So when I get a spamming email addressed to "Giani" from Questpersonals.com, I get a little freeked. I do not believe that Jackson would sell this member list to anyone, but SOMEONE at least has gotten information specific to this site, namely my specific forum handle and email address. It goes to the security of members identity...
Anyone else get spam from xxx.questpersonals.com? I would be pissed if Jackson sold his list, but for someone to hack into the list could be even more worrisome. I have posted a screen capture of their spam.
Thanks to anyone who might have insight on this troubling email.
Giani
I may be setting up something with this girl. Anybody seen her before? Thanks.
http://cincinnati.craigslist.org/ers/331400929.html
Larks Tongue
05-15-07, 22:23
Yesterday, I got spam in my email addressed to "Giani." This forum, USASG, is the only forum in which I use that handle, and the email address used to register for it is for very limited use. So when I get a spamming email addressed to "Giani" from Questpersonals.com, I get a little freeked. I do not believe that Jackson would sell this member list to anyone, but SOMEONE at least has gotten information specific to this site, namely my specific forum handle and email address. It goes to the security of members identity...
Anyone else get spam from xxx.questpersonals.com? I would be pissed if Jackson sold his list, but for someone to hack into the list could be even more worrisome. I have posted a screen capture of their spam.
Thanks to anyone who might have insight on this troubling email.
Giani
Not I, but then again Yahell is pretty good with dumping spam into a bulk folder where you never see it.
Anyone else get spam from xxx.questpersonals.com?
Nope nothing at all, check my spam folder also. I also use a very limited use email address.
Snobaldone
05-16-07, 19:47
White,
I've been watching her ads - would love to get your report, if you partake!
On the CL end of things, I have met a Cinci backpage girl who advertises under at least two names - pretty tall blonde - sensual massage only, $.50 but a gorgeous girl. Kendra or Nicole. Beautiful face, great body - but very limited services beyond erotic massage - maybe you can charm her.
Sno
I set up an appointment and went too see her. Not georgeous, but OK looking. The situation felt a bit uncomfortable so I left without consumating the deal.
Was this an incall or outcall location? This is interesting for a first report. hmmmm I talked to her yesterday and inquired about her traveling a bit to see me for a date and she was familiar with the area and said she even used to work at a local strip club. So it's kind of weird that I am getting mixed signals on this one. Anybody else?
I set up an appointment and went too see her. Not georgeous, but OK looking. The situation felt a bit uncomfortable so I left without consumating the deal.
Greetings everyone,
For the record, I NEVER have and I NEVER will sell, release or otherwise distribute the Forum member's email addresses or other information to any third party.
Thanks,
Jackson
Yesterday, I got spam in my email addressed to "Giani." This forum, USASG, is the only forum in which I use that handle, and the email address used to register for it is for very limited use. So when I get a spamming email addressed to "Giani" from Questpersonals.com, I get a little freeked. I do not believe that Jackson would sell this member list to anyone, but SOMEONE at least has gotten information specific to this site, namely my specific forum handle and email address. It goes to the security of members identity...
Anyone else get spam from xxx.questpersonals.com? I would be pissed if Jackson sold his list, but for someone to hack into the list could be even more worrisome. I have posted a screen capture of their spam.
Thanks to anyone who might have insight on this troubling email.
Giani
[I wanted to send this as a PM to Admin, but understandably, Admin does not have PM services.]
I very much appreciate the confirmation that Jackson would NEVER sell member's information. Like DUH...
But the troubling question remains as to how Questpersonals.com got information that I restrict to use on this forum. If ANYONE has insight into this, I am eager to hear. Perhaps a "data mining Trojan horse?"
One further possibility? The ONLY other forum on which I have in the past posted under the name Giani, with my specific registering email was on the international sex forum. Is this a branch of this forum that subsequently split off? Could THEY have sold out?
My concern is increased by the recent PBS Frontline program (week of 16 May 2007) on how the government, especially under the "Patriot" Act, is vacuuming up web, cell phone and credit card information on all of us. Privacy is seriously under attack, and in the name of national security, the current regime cares little about constitutional guarantees... I fear there is a real possibility that our anonymity on this board could be compromised. Sheesh.
Yours for freedom of thought, and protection of privacy,
Giani
P.S. I continue to be SO grateful for the excellent board that Jackson maintains. We all need to remember to express our gratitude to him upon occasion. Isn't he doing a fabulous job?
Greetings everyone,
For the record, I NEVER have and I NEVER will sell, release or otherwise distribute the Forum member's email addresses or other information to any third party.
Thanks,
Jackson
Cleveland Report
05-19-07, 08:14
You didn't really think that if the government wanted to know who you were on this board that they wouldn't be able to figure it out did you? It might take them a couple of tries but they would get it in the end.
Nothing on the internet is private or anonymous. It only looks like it could be.
However, your saving grace is the nobody really cares (at this point) what you do or say on here.
Good luck to you.
I Agree Who Really Cares. Sex Is A God Given Instinct And Therefore Good. Everyone Does It. Even The Cops. It Seems The People On this Board post Just To Be posting. If You Post Pictures Or An Name You Get 50 Pm telling You Not to Do That. Using Fear As A Form Of Communication Only Hurts The Board instilling Fear In Something That needs Not To Be feared. ,Anyway Charlotte Is doing Well And Looking Better Than Ever.
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Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
Would you please NOT capitalize the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!
Jackson
I would like it if someone would tell me where a good place to look or numbers of WSW's I would greatly appreciate it.
Had a dream last week that I crossed paths with WSW Wendy late last week mid afternoon on McM near Findlay. Probably in her mid/late-30's, small frame, shoulder length dark hair, nice enough personality. Said she usually hangs out over in Price Hill but ended up in OTR "unexpectedely". Didn't sound like she wanted to provide details so I didn't push. Found a quite spot for a very memorable BBBJCIM. She said she didn't swallow and I was fine with that but, in the end, she took down every last drop. I asked her way she changed her mind and she she said "don't know - just felt like it at the time". Guess it was just a good time to be in the right place.
She was wearing a dress over a pair of blue jean cut-off shorts that she loosened before getting started saying "to make things easier". I took the advice but I couldn't reach all the way around to test for wettness though she sure did seem to like the finger attention on her rear entry. Maybe that helped to to just feel like it - who knows. Had agreed on 0.2 and added 0.05 just because I felt like it at the time.
Driving back, she mentioned that, while she doesn't have a phone, she's usually down around Lower Price Hill late night/early morning (2-5am kind of shift). Too early for my schedule but I'll certainly be on the lookout for her in the future in case she switches to day shift.
She said that she's working to close the gap in house bills and "isn't into the drug scene". Hard to know for sure but she didn't have that worn down druggie look or edginess I usually associate with girls itching for their next hit. Also, when I dropped her, she picked a place where she could pop into a UDF to catch something to eat/drink (versus the usual crack house streets). To me, her story seemed like it made sense.
My vote - she's definately worth dreaming about again some day.
Have a great day.
Dz
Spent some time crusing OTR this afternoon and was that the construction on VINE has finally made its way down to McM/Findlay/Vine intersection. Sheesh-that really cuts OTR in half since you can't get through on McM and there's no left from NB Vine. Looks like that's going to be the case for a week or so looking at the rate they've been moving down Vine the past couple months. Makes for a little navigational challege since I ended up below Liberty most of the time to cross Vine East/West. I'm sure it's manageable but I did fine it threw me out of my sync because I actually had to think about where I was going versus paying attention to the street for both action and Leo.
Did manage to cross paths with a WSW over near McM and Main. Short gym shorts, long dark hair, some school grey gym top that was a size or two too small. Nice legs and a thin but healthy weight bod were what made me stop. Pulled up, offered her a ride and she said "Sure thing. " There was something about the southern twang that made me think. Hmmm, I think I've heard that voice before. Then before I knew it, she had her hands all over my radio buttons and it clicked. Beth: The Furniture Rearranger. Last time we crossed paths was right after a blazing rain storm and she looked like a drowned river rat. She spent the whole time then switching channels and trying to light up. Today, she was looking great but she's still got that attitude thing going on. Little Dz head was saying "she looks great, go for it". Big Dz head was saying "get her the hell out of the car before I go nuts. " Big head wins this round.
Ended up giving her enough for a couple packs of cigs but dropped her off a couple blocks later without even considering an investment. I politely explained that rearranging the furniture was stike one. General technique was strike two (spittin' when she said she'd be swallowin') and overall attitude was strike three. She started going on about how she needed to get at least 0. 1 for the ride because she owed people money and they would want their share. As they say. "Life's a bi*ch sometimes".
She does win points however for leaving nicely and suggesting on the way out of the car that I might want to try it again and let her show me can learn from her experiences. I thought "WTF. How did that suddenly come out of her mouth. " That kind of coherent thinking and logic sure doesn't fit with the rest of the story and you know what. I just may give her a try again to see if it's true, especially since she's in the upper third on the body scale.
This whole experience makes me start thinking these girls could benefit some if they thought about it like golf where you "Drive for show and putt for dough". They would be taking in a lot more dough if their in-car attitude could match their on-street walk. But then again. Who knows, may just be me thinking about this through the lens of my 7:45 tee time tomorrow morning.
Have a great day
Dz
Mr Boombastic
05-29-07, 05:10
I am getting Junk Email from Africa about some scam and senting them money for getting Millions from some bank. I have been on Yahoo Groups for a while and I am now certain that is where these Scammers are stealing Emails, and senting this junk. You can get a members list from the groups link, but it is suppse to be used by MEMBERS ONLY, and NOT for soliciting Junk or Scams.
I wish I had a fake bank account I could send them, just to piss them off. I am now getting 5-10 Scam Email per week and that is growing. I am concerning idling my email for about 60-90 days just to let the Junk Emails Bounce for a while but then so will my Yahoo Groups announcements and getting diconnected is a Pain to reconnect. You can block the email, but they are smart enough to Not use the same email more than a few times.
Did anyone see the 48Hours report on Scams, Stolen Credit Card numbers, and the Africa Bank Scam.
FOLKS BEWARE. Just like on the Streets. IF IT SOUNDS TOO GOOD, Then You Know it is a Scam!
HEY is OTR/WE getting a few signs of life or is it may imagination. I have gotten lucky the last four time there, and twice with the same SW. But the streets still looked empty. I just thought it was being in the right place at the right time. Each time the Girls Looked like they had just come from Clubbing on Main street. Almost like a Decoy, but I had seen them before, during the warmer Winter times and late Fall. Two of them were Part-Timers NOT druggies and the other was a parttime Crack user. She was NOT Hardcore yet. Ya, Yet. I told her if she is selling Pussy for Crack, then she is already Hardcore. She says part of them pays the bills too. How much of that she did not say.
AGAIN BE CAREFUL ABOUT JOINING THESE YAHOO GROUPS THAT SHOW MEMBERS LIST IN THERE LINKS. ONCE THEY DO. Your Email is Exposed!
Mr. B.
[I wanted to send this as a PM to Admin, but understandably, Admin does not have PM services. ]
I very much appreciate the confirmation that Jackson would NEVER sell member's information. Like DUH.
But the troubling question remains as to how Questpersonals.com got information that I restrict to use on this forum. If ANYONE has insight into this, I am eager to hear. Perhaps a "data mining Trojan horse? "
One further possibility? The ONLY other forum on which I have in the past posted under the name Giani, with my specific registering email was on the international sex forum. Is this a branch of this forum that subsequently split off? Could THEY have sold out?
My concern is increased by the recent PBS Frontline program (week of 16 May 2007) on how the government, especially under the "Patriot" Act, is vacuuming up web, cell phone and credit card information on all of us. Privacy is seriously under attack, and in the name of national security, the current regime cares little about constitutional guarantees. I fear there is a real possibility that our anonymity on this board could be compromised. Sheesh.
Yours for freedom of thought, and protection of privacy,
Giani
P.S. I continue to be SO grateful for the excellent board that Jackson maintains. We all need to remember to express our gratitude to him upon occasion. Isn't he doing a fabulous job?
I guess I HAVE been naive thinking that there were any such thing as anonymity on the web these years. But the fact that an unknown third party could ferret out my Forum handle and my private (unpublished) email address used to register for this forum raises serious problems. While our posts discuss activities which may be relative minor misdemeanors, these can be used for political vendetta purposes. Even though we may consider our activities victim less, who among us would want our names published with our posts. I am not talking about the flood of scam email we receive. I am talking about personal information which should be confidential to this board.
I hope that someone can reassure me that our posts cannot be used against us.
Mr Boombastic
06-03-07, 13:14
I did the normal cruise of the street and they were M T, even when I called my contacts, they did not have time on their phone. I did not even see the SW not worth picking up out. I did see plenty of FAGS, at the usual corners, and they are expanding. And they look "OBVIOUS" at what they are doing and never get picked up. "WHY". Being it a Real Working Girl, she would IMMEDIATELY GET PICKED UP and ARRESTED, especially wearing High Heels, and a Mini Skirt.
Just a few weeks ago the street were FULL, and the picking were GRRRRREAT!
Even NKy. Was dry from my drive by.
The Streets are M T. Empty!
Had a chance to cruise through on Tuesday afternoon and folks were out everywhere. Mostly the usual suspects. There was a good lookin' WSW (short, lightweight with a nice rack, shoulder length straight brown hair) that caught my eye on Liberty between walking towards Walnut. I pulled over on Walnut to wait but someone grabbed her on Liberty. Not a smart move at 6:45 in the afternoon on the main drag but. To each their own.
Saw Cora again but decided to take a pass on round 2 with her. Round 1 was well worth it and I'd still recommend her but there's enough fish in the sea that I'm not ready to start reruns. In spite of her "I only do this once and a while" she's starting to look like a regular down in the Walnut, S of Liberty stretch.
I noticed the Vortex thing was out again in force. Lots of cars and bikes around. A couple sheriff's cars along with the white Vortex panel van had a guy pulled over on Republic. Probably a drug bust. Guy was alone and you don't pull the rear seat out of a car to find the hidden SW. I also read over the weekend that Hamilton County will be getting a couple dozen motorcycle cops. Wonder if we'll see any of them sitting around OTR.
Have a great day.
Dz
Mr Boombastic
06-08-07, 05:10
I was cruisin just a little earlier and I did not see that many out, and the ones that were looked unworthy to be picked up.
I saw this very dirty looking latino girl out with dark black hair. Her face looked so dirty it was like see had five o'clock shadow. There was some black guy standing behind her, on mcmik. It must have been a lot of people who saw her as I did, and just drove by. She stayed at the corner for a long while.
Now I did see two worthy pickups, but they were at the worse locations to be picked up, so I drove pass. They never got th message to move to a safer location for pick up.
I check all over we/otr, and I gave up about 6pm. I got a few beers some alabama fish and headed to the park to eat it. And then I headed home.
I cme back out about 10pm, and right away spot a decent one I saw earlier. She had just come out to play after a nap, dinner, and shower. She smell very clean and fresh. A keeper! We had seen each other earlier so it made the check easier. We settled on a decent 25 w/5 tip if very good.
She was acting smarter than she was earler that day, and she said she was tired and hot earlier and that made her a little lazy in her efforts.
Now, she was with it. Not too short, w/nice wide hips & butt, very nice legs, and very decent breast. She could have early asked for 50 and maybe gotten it. We are talking about a stand tu. /thur. Regular order. That is if she can avoid getting caught at anything. She seemed to be smarter than the average SW. And she said she likes to work her phone to bring people in, but she has to get a new one. She drop the old one, in water. Yea!
Anyway, with the heat coming back I had to get it done while the temp was mild. At 90 degrees I won't be out in it either.
Oh by the way. Word you are right. They never ever hassle the fags. The fags are controlling the street even during the daytime, and at night the are in a mass of 12-25 scattered in and around dunlap & mcmik. & elm down to finlay. I have seen le disburse them just to keep them moving around, but I have never seen them arrested. I wish I could make a citizen arrest on them. Enough is enough. Please give them back the area of liberty & vine. That is their traditional area.
They drive away the decent real girls from every area! They do a better job at it than the cops do?
Mr. B.
Had a chance to cruise through on Tuesday afternoon and folks were out everywhere. Mostly the usual suspects. There was a good lookin' WSW (short, lightweight with a nice rack, shoulder length straight brown hair) that caught my eye on Liberty between walking towards Walnut. I pulled over on Walnut to wait but someone grabbed her on Liberty. Not a smart move at 6:45 in the afternoon on the main drag but. To each their own.
Saw Cora again but decided to take a pass on round 2 with her. Round 1 was well worth it and I'd still recommend her but there's enough fish in the sea that I'm not ready to start reruns. In spite of her "I only do this once and a while" she's starting to look like a regular down in the Walnut, S of Liberty stretch.
I noticed the Vortex thing was out again in force. Lots of cars and bikes around. A couple sheriff's cars along with the white Vortex panel van had a guy pulled over on Republic. Probably a drug bust. Guy was alone and you don't pull the rear seat out of a car to find the hidden SW. I also read over the weekend that Hamilton County will be getting a couple dozen motorcycle cops. Wonder if we'll see any of them sitting around OTR.
Have a great day.
Dz
Mr. B,
You're absolutely right about the unworthiness factor. I was strickly commenting on quantity, not quality. The only possiblity I would consider was that WSW on Liberty but, as I said, she never got the message to get off the main drag and I sure a heck wasn't going to pick her up out there.
In general, seems like most of the crop right now falls into the unworthy camp. But - just like fishing - a lot of this hobby is about finding the gem in the dustbin and it seems like every couple weeks I see a new face has joined the usual suspects in OTR - just waiting to be found. (Although at these gas prices, it's starting to get a little more painful).
Have a great day.
Dz
I was cruisin just a little earlier and I did not see that many out, and the ones that were looked unworthy to be picked up.
Mr. B.
I admit, I have never driven through OTR looking for the ladies until the other night. On that particular night, everyone was out on the streets. Do you guys fear getting car jacked or anything going through there at night. I was at a stop sign and I am not sure why a few guys were staring--either because they thought I was a potential drug buyer or they had other intentions. I know in the day time it seems a lot safer. But at night time, I don't know, just seems to risky to me. And besides, LE were EVERY Where.
Handiman66
06-11-07, 19:11
as another balti to cinci transplant I agree.
Hooah Jackson !
[I wanted to send this as a PM to Admin, but understandably, Admin does not have PM services.]
I very much appreciate the confirmation that Jackson would NEVER sell member's information. Like DUH...
But the troubling question remains as to how Questpersonals.com got information that I restrict to use on this forum. If ANYONE has insight into this, I am eager to hear. Perhaps a "data mining Trojan horse?"
One further possibility? The ONLY other forum on which I have in the past posted under the name Giani, with my specific registering email was on the international sex forum. Is this a branch of this forum that subsequently split off? Could THEY have sold out?
My concern is increased by the recent PBS Frontline program (week of 16 May 2007) on how the government, especially under the "Patriot" Act, is vacuuming up web, cell phone and credit card information on all of us. Privacy is seriously under attack, and in the name of national security, the current regime cares little about constitutional guarantees... I fear there is a real possibility that our anonymity on this board could be compromised. Sheesh.
Yours for freedom of thought, and protection of privacy,
Giani
P.S. I continue to be SO grateful for the excellent board that Jackson maintains. We all need to remember to express our gratitude to him upon occasion. Isn't he doing a fabulous job?
Mr Boombastic
06-12-07, 15:53
HEY Dweezil,
I waited to add some information, because saying it then would have brought undue attention at the time to her.
Did you see the girl in the red hot shorts that day. She was up by the shell station, with another guy. Last I saw her she was talking to a guy on a motorcycle, show him a flyer or something. I first saw her several blocks away before she got to the station but I was unable to safely get her attention. Then a few time I "just missed her. I turn one way she turned the other. Damn! She was worth all the waiting. By time I saw her I had been cruising for a while and was frustrated. It just can't be that bad, but it was? This SW was hot, built, sexz, and willing. She was hugged up with a dude, but I know that was a cover.
Finally I gave up because I was tried, hungry, thristy, and disapointed, so I broke off pursuit. I did later on that night find a kinda diamond. She was out earlier, but at a bad location. No one could stop there. Later that night about midnight she came out and I caught her at the right time. She had just had a bath and smell clean if nothing else. I got her for 30, and she was worth alot more.
. The same thing happened a day later, and at the time I could have picked up two decent once, but I was in no position and did not have a daytime location. I told them to come back once it was dark, but they never came back. Again I saw the girl from a day ago, and told her to meet me at the previous location. After about 15 minute she arrived, and we did it again. Same results, but even better this time. We took about a good 25-30 minutes and it was totally unrushed. She of course has no phone, but she is also not on the streets every night or weekend.
Otherwise everyone is in jail, or has moved on in one way or anyother. Even though the area was not as hot with le, the picks were slim. It wasn't until this wekend that the streets were hot with le. I told you they read this board, because the fags were almost cmpletely gone from dunlap, mcmicken, race, elm, and stark. Only a very few were even out, yet even fewer real females were out. Even the other neighhoods were clean, and the regulars had not minutes on their phones to even call. That is really crazy!
Mr. Boom,
Mr. B,
You're absolutely right about the unworthiness factor. I was strickly commenting on quantity, not quality. The only possiblity I would consider was that WSW on Liberty but, as I said, she never got the message to get off the main drag and I sure a heck wasn't going to pick her up out there.
In general, seems like most of the crop right now falls into the unworthy camp. But - just like fishing - a lot of this hobby is about finding the gem in the dustbin and it seems like every couple weeks I see a new face has joined the usual suspects in OTR - just waiting to be found. (Although at these gas prices, it's starting to get a little more painful).
Have a great day.
Dz
Mr Boombastic
06-12-07, 16:34
If jackson were to offer a slideshow cd/dvd or a paysite where you could use a downloader to down load all the pictures ever posted to this usa. S. G. Site. Would you be wiling to pay for it. Even if you down loaded it yourself and made you own slideshow, would you pay for it
I would be willing to pay but that is just be, especially willing to pay for the w. S. G. That is really the one I want most, and would pay the most for.
I know there are some problems with other folks stealing others pictures and posting them as there own. Everyone knows the rules, so there are legal items to consider, . But if there was a way would you be willing to buy it.
There is over 700 pages to date of pictures on this gallery, with at least 10 pictures oer pages or more. That is a lot of picture. Even a downloader program I would pay to use from this site. Especially if it helps Jackson pay the bills. This might keep the usa version open and free, at least for a while.
If someone has a better idea, and I know folks got to have one better than mine. Someone know the how's and whys of doing something like this.
So would you be willing to pay-per-disc.
And no I am no for making this forum a pay site, but if it has to be, I will pay it.
Mr. Boombastic
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Did you see the girl in the red hot shorts that day. She was up by the shell station, with another guy. Last I saw her she was talking to a guy on a motorcycle, show him a flyer or something. Nope - don't recall seeing this one. There always seems to be someone working the Shell station corner. It also seems to be the spot where LE is always heaviest so I've gotten into the habit of not even glancing around when I'm at that intersection. I want any LE who looks me over to think I'm just another guy lookin' to get outta OTR as fast as possible.
. ...I did later on that night find a kinda diamond. She was out earlier, but at a bad location. No one could stop there. Later that night about midnight she came out and I caught her at the right time. She had just had a bath and smell clean if nothing else. I got her for 30, and she was worth alot more. Good to have you contributing to the board. We need all the participation we can get here in Cincy.
Sounds you you found a little gem, especially since she was worth a repeat the following day. A little more information would turn this really good post into a great post. When you say "bad location". Where. Then where was the good location? What was it about her that caught your eye and how would you describe her in a way that others could connect her to your experience? WSW/BSW. Long/short dark/blond hair, tall/short. You get the idea. When you say "got her for 30. ". What did you get? All this helps the rest of us find her and get something worth a lot more. That is if you're planning to share her! :.)
Again, thanks for the reports. Have a great day and good luck out there.
Dz
Had a chance to spend a couple hours last night running through OTR, Covington, and Newport. Sheesh. Did I miss the announcment that Wed is now hookers night off?
OTR was practically empty. Not even the usual suspects were around. Passed a couple white chicks at McM/Vine who were lookin' at cars and giggling with each other. Looked like first timers feeling out of place, not comfortable with the neighborhood, and having that "so what do we do now" talk with each other.
I did notice several LE stops. Corwine off Walnut, Main below Liberty, and McM near Walnut. In each one, they were hassling a girl. On Corwine, it was a couple motorcycle guys and a bike guy with a girl up against the wall. On Main it was a sherriff guy and a bike guy with the girl in the back seat and the guys going through her purse on the hood. On McM it was a couple squad car guys with a girl up against the park fence. I haven't seen them pressuring the girls this much in ages which may explain why they all went underground.
In Covington I did find a tall blonde WSW coming off Madison onto 4th. Good looking 6-7 on the SW scale. Pulled into the gas station to try and catch her eye but she just moved on and by the time I got out with my water bottle, someone scarfed her up off 4th near the bridge. Oh well. To troll another day.
Newport was deader than OTR. Nothing to report.
Have a great day.
Dz
Mr Boombastic
06-14-07, 18:59
As I have seen with giani, word, and several others I am trying to get around giving direct details, so let me uncode myself.
I never do anything other than full service (fs), and I won't pay more than 30, for everything including sometimes picture. Sometime I have to according to what she looks like and how well I know her. I don't make it a habit of paying more. If they know how I am, we can work a deal, but there will be extras. What they are I just make them up as I go.
I really dislike detailed descriptions, because le reads the forum too, and in the day when SW's were out everywhere you could do that and they all mixed in and looked alike. But with very few out there, any description stands out. I will say she was a WSW, I had seen earlier, and started to pass by, because I saw her earlier. She happened to be talking to someone I know, so I know she was ligit. She really looked like a regular girl not an SW. That's what I mean as lucked up. She had been on elm, near mcmik when I first saw her, and when given the eye, I shook my head "nooooo" and drove on. That is why I remembered her. Otherwise she might be 1 of 100 faces, that day.
She did not remember me, but she said she had been there at the time I said.
I too avoid the shell station liberty location (assll), just for the same reasons, but I will do a drive by, and glance around. You almost have to to avoid kids, drunks, druggies, idiots, and whomever walking in and across the streets. The dirty looking latino girl was there almost all the time I was in the area. The girl in the red shorts was there for only 20-30 minutes and then I had moved on.
There are very few good spots, but they are a real waiting game. Often too long to wait! But I deal with it. I keep the good location to myself, because it doesn't take much for someone to overcrowd a decent fishing spot. Otherwise there are only bad and worse locations. Any corner in a hot location is bad, and at the corner, street path, alley, phone booth, or otherwise of a know SW location like the shell station and fire station area is "worse". I have seen guys who are so obvious or start blowing their horns at the girls or pull over when the girl is flagging them down. They break all the rules and often never get caught. I just shake my head and laugh.
So if I am kinda vague in my post it is intentional, and I wish I didn't have to be. I am a senior hunter/ forum reader, but a newbie poster. I would think very few would take my direction and advice anyway, because if it were me, I'the be very suspicion of newbies too, especially ones with information.
But you will never be trusted or become a senior trustee, without posting some kind of decent information or pictures. I prefer posting pictures than information.
Lastly. Notice the fags are finally gone or there numbers are dramatically down. Told ya, le reads your post?
Mr. B.
talked to mandy and tiffany on the chatline friday night. they said they were 18 and staying at a hotel in florence,ky. they offered $1.00 for an hour of fun. thinking everything was cool i arrived and found out they were both 16!!! i was like that's a big problem. they said they told me they were 16 on the phone. which was a lie. i never asked since their greeting said they were 18. they then begin to say that i told them i liked **** girls. another huge lie. i can her a beep like the walkie talkie feature on a phone as she is lieing her ass off. i was like is this some kind of scam or are you working with the police? mandy says, "this isn't a scam". i say ok well i guess you won't mind if i like the door. mandy says, "no don't do that! i lock it anyway and look out the window fully expecting to see someone out there. i didn't see anyone. mandy then says admit that you're paying for it. i didn't say a word and she persists. i get the feeling she's working with the cops at this point. i tell her she's going to get hurt if she does this to the wrong guy. mandy says, "no were not we have protection out there". she says sit down and relax . i sit down and say i'm not going to jail for having sex with **** girls. mandy gets pissed and again tries to get me to admit something. i finally leave expecting to be stopped in the parking lot. nothing happens thank god! so what do you think guys? are they scammers, cops, or legit?
of course i looked up on the net the age of consent in ky is 16. i know you could get busted in ohio for under 18. they made me too paranoid to do anything. i can't believe i have to ask them their age. do any of the women on the chatlines tell the truth? mandy and tiffany were pretty acurate with their descriptions.
soooo many scams by le these days. cheap headlines. entice some poor sucker to commit, and click, clank, you are a branded sex offender for life... i think you were lucky to escape with only a damaged sense of trust. i think you should tell the exact phone number, hotel name, and warn us about how you contacted them. did they offer any pix, or did you get any? did they get you for any money?
how exactly did you learn that they were 16? if they told you when you came in the room, either
a) they were lying through their teeth to try to pry extra $ from you (how old did they look?), or
b) or on the other hand, it was a sting (take your choice--either way it sucks)...
good work pulling the rip cord.
hey guys--we know le is putting all kinds of bait out there to get positive press in this hellhole of conservatism. tell us if you get a sniff.
giani
talked to mandy and tiffany on the chatline friday night. they said they were 18 and staying at a hotel in florence,ky. they offered $1.00 for an hour of fun. thinking everything was cool i arrived and found out they were both 16!!! i was like that's a big problem. they said they told me they were 16 on the phone. which was a lie. i never asked since their greeting said they were 18. they then begin to say that i told them i liked **** girls. another huge lie. i can her a beep like the walkie talkie feature on a phone as she is lieing her ass off. i was like is this some kind of scam or are you working with the police? mandy says, "this isn't a scam". i say ok well i guess you won't mind if i like the door. mandy says, "no don't do that! i lock it anyway and look out the window fully expecting to see someone out there. i didn't see anyone. mandy then says admit that you're paying for it. i didn't say a word and she persists. i get the feeling she's working with the cops at this point. i tell her she's going to get hurt if she does this to the wrong guy. mandy says, "no were not we have protection out there". she says sit down and relax . i sit down and say i'm not going to jail for having sex with **** girls. mandy gets pissed and again tries to get me to admit something. i finally leave expecting to be stopped in the parking lot. nothing happens thank god! so what do you think guys? are they scammers, cops, or legit?
of course i looked up on the net the age of consent in ky is 16. i know you could get busted in ohio for under 18. they made me too paranoid to do anything. i can't believe i have to ask them their age. do any of the women on the chatlines tell the truth? mandy and tiffany were pretty acurate with their descriptions.
just an observation but they may have had a guy (boyfriend perhaps) that was ready to bust in and shake you down pretending to be a cop. if you had paid or said anything that you thought was incriminating you might have been scared enough to fall for the phony cop routine. they have the "to catch a preditor" series in the back of your mind and you expect to see stone phillips. they may have been alone and would have suddenly switched attitudes and said "give us the $100.00 or we'll call the cops and say you tried to rape us".
for a 16 yr old to get a hotel room they would have had to be working with someone older or they may have been 18+ and told you the **** story to make you think you could be busted. i think if it had been a real sting the cops would have stopped you just for showing up and to hassle you, but you were lucky to get out anyway.
i had a sw tell me years ago the her and a friend used to pull the phony cop routine on guys. of course i never picked her up again.
they did get me for the fee. i paid it before they broke the news that they were 16. if they were cops i would think they would have busted me just for that even though i didn't say exactly what i wanted. i talked to them on tango which is a chatline. i didn't get any pictures of them. i think nude pictures would get you in deep trouble if they are ****. they were thick girls. mandy was cute 5'5" curly red hair huge tits at a 50dd. tiffany was average looking 5'9" blond said she was a 44dd. i guess i'm a sucker for the big boobs! mandy looked 18 but tiffany looked younger. what gets me is if they were legit why would they tell anyone they are under 18? they have to know that people will stay away from **** women. i think they may have been the rip-off type. i just got a really bad vibe about the whole situation.
it is not my style (i have my own share of fetishes...), but there are plenty of guys who want **** chicks. the ones i especially don't understand are those attracted to prepubescent...
and, not beating you up or anything, but read rule #8:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=524144#post524144
8) never give up the $ before you are finished. you can pay a small token up front, but never the whole amount. if she refuses, then thanks but no thanks. once she has your money, it is problematic to turn her out. this includes fronting money so they can buy some "butter." money in their hand may mean you will never get into their bush...
i know how hard it is to remember, but all of us who have been in the hobby more more than a few days have stories to tell about this...
thanks again for providing details to the crew. i have not heard of the tango chatline, but really, all the rules of street mongering apply to other forms of the hobby...
stay safe.
giani
they did get me for the fee. i paid it before they broke the news that they were 16. if they were cops i would think they would have busted me just for that even though i didn't say exactly what i wanted. i talked to them on tango which is a chatline. i didn't get any pictures of them. i think nude pictures would get you in deep trouble if they are ****. they were thick girls. mandy was cute 5'5" curly red hair huge tits at a 50dd. tiffany was average looking 5'9" blond said she was a 44dd. i guess i'm a sucker for the big boobs! mandy looked 18 but tiffany looked younger. what gets me is if they were legit why would they tell anyone they are under 18? they have to know that people will stay away from **** women. i think they may have been the rip-off type. i just got a really bad vibe about the whole situation.
Near Findley Market, (just out shopping), I noticed this person. Several questions arise...
Anyone know her/him?
Is it a he or a she? The kicker is that the hip action DOES attract attention!
I did not test the waters, but wonder if anyone else has.
The board is pretty dead these days. I probably deserve part of the blame with my paranoia...
See if you can post posts which are not incriminating--we can still transmit good information.
Giani
Mr Boombastic
06-21-07, 21:14
If this was taken right at or near the light at Finlay and Race especially across from the Finlay Market Parking lot. It is a He. There was too of them out yesterday. One was wearing an All Black Hot Pants outfit, with a very muscular male body. You could not tell easily from a distance, and the other looked like your Picture. I saw them around late afternoon walking the Race, Finlay, Elm strip. I was in the area at the Market, and saw them. As I got back to the car a CPD pulled into the driveway, and the He/She's across the street disappeared, along with some kids in the parking lot, and some young girls walking through.
I cruised the area for a good while, and only saw two white girlz near the corner across from the parking lots main entrance. They walked up to that mini Park at the end of Finlay at Vine. I think they were real SW's but were looking for some afternoon dope. So that means for the right price, they might be willing. They were too well dressed for the area, and alot of people down there seem to know them. So they may be CONNECTED.
Otherwise I di the see only a very few decent ones, and they were at location to HOT to be picked Up, and they were always looking the wrong way. By time you pass them they look over, and you can't stop.
Oh, well!
Near Findley Market, (just out shopping), I noticed this person. Several questions arise...
Anyone know her/him?
Is it a he or a she? The kicker is that the hip action DOES attract attention!
I did not test the waters, but wonder if anyone else has.
The board is pretty dead these days. I probably deserve part of the blame with my paranoia...
See if you can post posts which are not incriminating--we can still transmit good information.
Giani
Near Findley Market, (just out shopping), I noticed this person. Several questions arise...
Anyone know her/him?
Is it a he or a she? The kicker is that the hip action DOES attract attention!
I did not test the waters, but wonder if anyone else has.
The board is pretty dead these days. I probably deserve part of the blame with my paranoia...
See if you can post posts which are not incriminating--we can still transmit good information.
Giani
I'm pretty sure it's "him". Only the guys that have wandered off Dunlop would dress that way.
The sad part is, many of them look better than most of the girls in that area.
Near Findley Market, (just out shopping), I noticed this person. Several questions arise...
Anyone know her/him?
Is it a he or a she? The kicker is that the hip action DOES attract attention!
I did not test the waters, but wonder if anyone else has.
The board is pretty dead these days. I probably deserve part of the blame with my paranoia...
See if you can post posts which are not incriminating--we can still transmit good information.
Giani
'she' looks like a linebacker for the WFL
(nice legs tho!)
Mr Boombastic
06-22-07, 04:24
It took me almost all afternoon to find this one, but she actually walked right pass me as I was walking to my car. I asked her one of those can you tell me where "BLANK" is questions, and once she pointed I asked the MAIN question.
I had seen her before after I thought about it once before, but did not have the opp to speak to her. She is decent and at the time smelled fresh like soap on a Hot Day. That is better than most, so she lived near by.
HERE ARE HER PICTURES. DEFINITELY "NOT" A He/She. She is Bi!
BoomBastic.
they did get me for the fee. i paid it before they broke the news that they were 16. if they were cops i would think they would have busted me just for that even though i didn't say exactly what i wanted. i talked to them on tango which is a chatline. i didn't get any pictures of them. i think nude pictures would get you in deep trouble if they are ****. they were thick girls. mandy was cute 5'5" curly red hair huge tits at a 50dd. tiffany was average looking 5'9" blond said she was a 44dd. i guess i'm a sucker for the big boobs! mandy looked 18 but tiffany looked younger. what gets me is if they were legit why would they tell anyone they are under 18? they have to know that people will stay away from **** women. i think they may have been the rip-off type. i just got a really bad vibe about the whole situation.definitely not cops. they just took you for your money and they did not have to do anything to earn it. talk about an easy job!
Mr Boombastic
06-28-07, 14:46
Man have some of the WSW due to their shortage gotten arrogant.
There were so few decent WSW out, that the decent one have noticed they have a real bargaining chip in the game now. Some have stopped settling for a lower price, where they did before, and others have gotten so busy that it is almost like taking a number. I had one I know go to the corner store rather than come over to me, and we know one another. She now knows she can get more if she holds out, and acts uninterested. I had to laugh, because she was the same one that just after winter passed wanted to do fs for 20, and 5 extra for a 2nd nut. Wow, how times have changed?
I am seeing a slight incline in price and what a lot of SW's are asking and accepting. The hardcore are still the same, but the parttimers and decent SW are looking to ask for more money. They are getting very picky, and down right arrogant. This will only get worse, because the decent SW numbers are extremely low. I just had one who is one of the very better looking hardcore WSW tell me the 411 on the situation in otr/we, and it ain't good. I even had to work at it just to get her, when before she would just hop in. She saw another mark who she knew she could get over on. But to my luck, he must have missed her, and did not come back. She is a fox, and she could easily create a waiting list. Easily!
We are in a buyers market now. If you want decent SW of anykind! If you will settle for anything. You can still find whatever you want?
Has anyone else noticed?
Oh by the way the he/she was out yesterday walking finlay towards central pkway, and alot of his friends were too. Later that night they had control again of the whole area, as a roving pack of fags. Two of them were big enough to be football player. Hey bengals. Defense!
Bbastic
OK... I know that cruising is a hit and/or miss prospect. But frankly, 0.2 for FS??? WHEN was that? Even *I* would be embarrassed to pay so little for FS. Where in the States would one find such a low price? Dream on if you think you can get that regularly. No, I don't think times have changed, only our hallucinations.
In the past week or two, I saw several SWs whom I recognized, including one of our SW TV stars who was still as socially pleasant as ever.
Frankly, part time SWs may be generally ignorant of the going price. There is an opposing pressure on the price: Who would not prefer a PT novice? Wouldn't you pay more?
Remember to follow the basic rules of mongering (I have posted them numerous times--if you don't know them, do the research.)
Respect the SWs as fellow human beings, pay a respectful price, and both of you will reap the benefits.
Giani
Man have some of the WSW due to their shortage gotten arrogant.
There were so few decent WSW out, that the decent one have noticed they have a real bargaining chip in the game now. Some have stopped settling for a lower price, where they did before, and others have gotten so busy that it is almost like taking a number. I had one I know go to the corner store rather than come over to me, and we know one another. She now knows she can get more if she holds out, and acts uninterested. I had to laugh, because she was the same one that just after winter passed wanted to do fs for 20, and 5 extra for a 2nd nut. Wow, how times have changed?
I am seeing a slight incline in price and what a lot of SW's are asking and accepting. The hardcore are still the same, but the parttimers and decent SW are looking to ask for more money. They are getting very picky, and down right arrogant. This will only get worse, because the decent SW numbers are extremely low. I just had one who is one of the very better looking hardcore WSW tell me the 411 on the situation in otr/we, and it ain't good. I even had to work at it just to get her, when before she would just hop in. She saw another mark who she knew she could get over on. But to my luck, he must have missed her, and did not come back. She is a fox, and she could easily create a waiting list. Easily!
We are in a buyers market now. If you want decent SW of anykind! If you will settle for anything. You can still find whatever you want?
Has anyone else noticed?
Oh by the way the he/she was out yesterday walking finlay towards central pkway, and alot of his friends were too. Later that night they had control again of the whole area, as a roving pack of fags. Two of them were big enough to be football player. Hey bengals. Defense!
Bbastic
Mr Boombastic
06-30-07, 17:32
Just yesterday. Mr. G?
There is a difference between regular SW's and the parttimers. Regular go by the going rate, and if at any point one will do it for less so be it. I will tip for good service, but I ain't that generous. I don't wheeled gangbanger money.
I had a chance to hang around otr/we most of the early evening until about 11:45pm. Around 8pm I called ms. E. Who had minutes amazingly, and we agreed to meet up. Ms. E. Is about 23, very thin, very atractive, use to have a nice attirude, when she was strictly parttiming, now she has the makings of a scam artist. The rush job type, hurry up, I hear someone crap. Actually she walked down to where I was parked, and we went to a location spot where I paid a mutual person we both know a. 05 to use his room. Ms. E and I agreed on. 25w. 05tip. 05pic. 05room, paid my me. At the last moment she closed on the pic. I think if I offered more (. 15) she would have changed her mind, but I had limited funds and a limited plan. We did it and she got her money, thus everyone is happy. Ms. E. Only answers her cell after 7pm, because then she gets free minutes. Evenually I will have to cross ms. E. Off the list. Scammin big time, for people who don't know her already.
Myself and a few friends stopped up at a house bar and drink a few beers. I don't much like drinking more than a 2-3 beers at a house place because you never want to be caught drunk at a house place without very, very close good friends. And you would be amazed at how many white guys, and women come through this place. The drinks are very cheap and not too watered down. The beers are just a buck fifty for a 16oz. Can. At about 11pm I deceided to leave. Upon leaving I meet ms. M. Who asked if I could give her a ride over to that bar near john st. Forgot the name. On the way we did the quick chit-chat, and she gave me the needing to make some money routine. I asked her how much for fs, and she quoted me. 020. And she said it in a way that people had offered her less. We agreed on a hiden spot we both knew of and did it there. After we were finished and she checked her money again, I had to take her back to the spot I found her because she lost some type of lens to her glasses. After a little looking with a bright flashlight and about 15 minutes, she found it, and I dropped her off near queenann's bar. Ms. M. Was in her mid-thirty's and had a very good personality and attitude. I did tell her that I will be contacting her again, since she did show me where she lived.
Low prices and rates. Is not the norm, but every now and then you get "lucky. " I have missed out on a lot, by just being a car or two back, or turning one way instead of the other. I saw three really nice, what I thought to be WSW, walking with a group of black guys on three ocassions. When they are in a group like that, they will mainly ignore you, until you catch them alone. They last one disappeared into the drug area over near the fire station at that corner apartment building.
All-in-all, the going rate is 30, but is they say less, I ain't gonna school them. It is a sellers market now, and I am surprised the price hasn't settled at 40 or more. They get as much respect, friendliness, and everything else from me and sometimes more than with other guys willing to pay more.
It's just a matter of timing and luck!
BooMBastic.
OK... I know that cruising is a hit and/or miss prospect. But frankly, 0.2 for FS??? WHEN was that? Even *I* would be embarrassed to pay so little for FS. Where in the States would one find such a low price? Dream on if you think you can get that regularly. No, I don't think times have changed, only our hallucinations.
In the past week or two, I saw several SWs whom I recognized, including one of our SW TV stars who was still as socially pleasant as ever.
Frankly, part time SWs may be generally ignorant of the going price. There is an opposing pressure on the price: Who would not prefer a PT novice? Wouldn't you pay more?
Remember to follow the basic rules of mongering (I have posted them numerous times--if you don't know them, do the research.)
Respect the SWs as fellow human beings, pay a respectful price, and both of you will reap the benefits.
Giani
Recently, taking a tour around OTR, I saw quite a few interesting ladies "on the street." No way would I think these were SWs... (Just to be clear.) But they may look familiar to the practiced monger.
Across from the Shell station (do NOT pick up near there!) I also saw a thin, tricked out stilettoed piece of work in VERY tight pants who from a distance looked like a hot one. You know the rest of the story. Com'on--Real OTR SWs NEVER advertise like that.
I have it on good authority that decent BBBJCIM still goes for 0.2 + tip, and FS for 0.4. For less than that, you may get more than you bargained for. But as always, choose your friend carefully, behave in a cautious but congenial manner, pick a safe location, and agree clearly up front about what for how much. (Same old story--see my mongering rules if you would like more specific lessons.)
So here are several pictures of (certainly not) SWs on the street.
LE: take careful note. These are NOT SWs...
Giani
Hey G-man,
I have to say I have not pay more than $30 for everything including pix for almost a year or more.
I always start at 20, then they go 30, I say 25 max, then it's usually a deal. If I do pix I will ask only after the deal is made, and if they want more money then I offer only an extra 5. Most times I get them for no extra charge, because they owe me for some type of taxi service drop off to their favorite dealer instead of a long walk. I have even taken them back to their place or a relatives, instead of having to beg someone for a ride. More than anything. They just feel comfortable with me. Especially according to the horror stories they have told me, about what some of the mongers have said and done. I am no saint. But if I get a bargain I'm gonna take it!
I know the place that mr. B. Is talking about. He is a little braver than I about being there even though, I go there too. Sometimes! It is not an SW hang out, but more a gathering place for people trying to catch up with other folks in the area/neighborhood, and it is strictly for an over #30 crowd. There rare is any harecore SW there, but a few parttimers hang at the place, and that is, same can be said for all the other clubs in the area.
So as a matter of record. I have gotten all of them for 25w/5tip, and most times pix were free and for a plus. Basically that comes out to 30, but I neigotiate it differently, because if I say 30 as a deal, then more will be expected for anything more, especially pix.
Lastly. I am starting to see a severe shortage of WSW, especially the decent ones. And the ones out that are more than decent have now gotten mass attitudes, because they know they can ask whatever for their serve. Some of the same p/t WSW I saw a year ago, that would barely show attitude, are now totally different. I saw (3) very nice blondes over a two day period and got to talk to two of them who told me they won't do anything for under 50, and it will be 20 extra for pix. I simply said "no thanks", and walked back to my car. The other WSW just ignored everyone until her popcorn pimp, okayed a deal. They were at the little park on finlay near vine.
Times are ah changin!
Word!
Recently, taking a tour around OTR, I saw quite a few interesting ladies "on the street." No way would I think these were SWs... (Just to be clear.) But they may look familiar to the practiced monger.
Across from the Shell station (do NOT pick up near there!) I also saw a thin, tricked out stilettoed piece of work in VERY tight pants who from a distance looked like a hot one. You know the rest of the story. Com'on--Real OTR SWs NEVER advertise like that.
I have it on good authority that decent BBBJCIM still goes for 0.2 + tip, and FS for 0.4. For less than that, you may get more than you bargained for. But as always, choose your friend carefully, behave in a cautious but congenial manner, pick a safe location, and agree clearly up front about what for how much. (Same old story--see my mongering rules if you would like more specific lessons.)
So here are several pictures of (certainly not) SWs on the street.
LE: take careful note. These are NOT SWs...
Giani
Does anyone have experience with Rayne, who advertises regularly on CL - Cincinnati? She looks good (IMO), but I hestitate to go with osmeone who has no reviews?
To me, this lovely is a work of art. Look at her stance, her attitude, and her courage. Gotta love it.
Giani
P.S. Yes, I know this is low rez--but your imagination is at least as good as my camera...
I found this on CL.... good info to have....
D'Nut
PS--- What's up guys? Long time no see....
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What the Agencies Don't Want You to Know - w4m - 24
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Reply to: pers-370373061@craigslist.org
Date: 2007-07-09, 10:22PM EDT
THE FOLLOWING POST IS LISTED PERIODICALLY IN THE COLUMBUS EROTIC SECTION, BUT THE WORDS HOLD TRUE IN ANY MARKET. I HATE TO SEE ANYONE GET RIPPED OFF SO POSTING IT HERE IN CINCINNATI. THINK ABOUT THESE THINGS WHEN GIRLS SUDDENLY SHOW UP AND THEY ARE NOT REVIEWED ON ANY OF THE BIG SITES FOR THIS HOBBY (FAVORABLE REVIEWS ON CL DO NOT COUNT AS MANY TIMES THEY END OF BEING SELF REVIEWS DONE BY THE SCAMMERS THEMSELVES). BE SUSPICIOUS OF THOSE GIRLS THAT BLOW INTO TOWN AND ARE OFFERING OUTCALL ONLY. JUST READ THE POST AND TAKE IT FOR WHAT IT'S WORTH - AND JUST MAYBE IT WILL HELP TO KEEP YOU FROM FALLING VICTIM TO A SCAM... BUT IF YOU DO FALL VICTIM, REPORT IT ON CL TO SAVE OTHERS FROM THE SAME. ANYHOW, HERE'S THE POST:
This is the post that many of the Escorts and Escort Agencies in Central Ohio DON'T want you to see. Many of the posts by girls here are misleading. They want you to believe you are getting full service when in reality, they only offer a dance and/or mutual masturbation. When this post does get flagged, that means the scammers are actively posting at that time. If you ask for FULL SERVICE, they will say, “Yes, I’m full service”. What they don’t tell you is that their idea of full service consists of you masturbating yourself to completion. After you get ripped off, you might ask the girl "I thought this was full service"? They will tell you that the legal definiton in Ohio for Full Service includes mutual masturbation. That is a lie. Their is NO legal definition of "Full Service" in the Ohio Revised Code. This is how it works: You agree to meet the girl. She will likely show up with a driver. She will ask for $130 to $200 up front. If you make the mistake of paying this, you might as well say goodbye to it. The driver will take the money to the car and usually wait. From here, the girl will tell you that the money you just paid is for the driver, agency, or a show up fee. She will now tell you that she only works on tips. You now have to negotiate a price to have the girl continue. This will range from $200 to $300. If you pay her, you are now about to learn about the term “Full Service” from her terminology. She will likely only offer to strip and conduct mutual masturbation. You WILL NOT be allowed to touch her and she WILL NOT touch you.. Once you figure this out, you might ask for a refund. It is likely she will tell you there are no refunds. Though, there is a slim chance she will refund your second payment, you are definitely not getting your first payment returned. She will likely leave and you are out anywhere from $130 to $500. If she does conduct a strip or mutual masturbation, there is no refund what so ever, guaranteed.
How to deal with this:
1. If a driver or second person shows up, you are about to get ripped off.... GUARANTEED! Do not answer the door if they come to you. You need to watch and see if she comes with someone. If the girl that shows up is not the girl pictured, it is very likely a SCAM. If a non pictured girl shows up with a driver, you might as well write off any money you give up.
2. IF you have the confrontation with the driver and the girl, make an excuse to cancel. At this point, the driver will tell you there is a cancellation fee. It usually ranges from $100 to $150. Hopefully, you have not let them into your room. They will try to come into your room prior to conversation because when the confrontation happens, you will feel more intimidated to give up the money. Remember, your room is your safe haven until they are inside. If you are in a situation where you can’t avoid the confrontation, refuse to pay the money. If you are bigger then the driver, they will likely leave. If not, immediately have your cell-phone readily available and tell them that you will call the police and the police can resolve it when they get here. Though, this is something you won’t likely want to do, I can assure you, they don’t want to confront the police anymore then you do. They will likely leave at this point. Trust me, you don’t owe them a cent.
3. Watch out for the scenario where the girl shows up and asks for the money up front. After you pay her, she will open the door and hand the money to a driver who is now outside of your door that you didn’t see the first time. If this happens, you may as well say goodbye to that money and get ready for the second round of negotiations to start all over again. Once again, you are about to get ripped off. If a girl shows up and you let her inside and asks for the money up front, open the door and see if anyone is standing outside the door. If not, the driver may be waiting in the car. Know the cars in the parking lot prior to the girl arriving. This way you can spot the driver more easily. The girl may insist on taking the first payment out to the car. If this happens, you are about to once again get ripped off. She will take it to the driver. If she does go to the car and give the money to a driver, get ready for a second round of negotiations IF she returns.
4. They will say whatever is necessary to get the initial payment from you. Once you have given up that money, they don’t care anymore, they got what they wanted and can and will leave at anytime they want. Anything else they get from your wallet is just a bonus now for the girl and the driver. Once they have your initial payment, they know you aren’t going to call the police. They can do as they please and they know it.
5. In some cases, the girl will agree to meet you at a hotel before anyone has a room. Sit in your car and wait. Prior to her showing, ask what kind of vehicle she is coming in. If she comes with a driver, simply drive away. If they ask what you are driving, be vague. Once again, if you are foolish enough to make contact, they will ask for the initial payment up front using the excuse that they have to pay for the room. Whatever you give them, say goodbye to it and be ready for the second round of negotiations.
6. Incall/Outcall- It does not matter if the girls are incall or outcall. The escort agencies and girls use both. Once they have scammed one guy, they have full use of the hotel room for the rest of the day and night. Once they have the room, they offer incall. If you schedule with a scammer, it usually works like this; The girl will tell you to go to an area close by and then call her back. Once you do that, she may direct you closer to call back or just give you the actual location. When you do this, drive the parking lot and check out all of the cars closely. Usually, the girls will have a driver waiting in his car in the same parking lot. If you see this, just drive off. You are about to get ripped-off. If you do go into the room, negotiate exactly what you are getting. Make her say it. If she refuses to discuss the details, LEAVE! You are about to get ripped-off. If you do give up the initial payment and she wants to take it out to a car, you are about to get ripped off. She will either leave or come back after leaving the money with the driver. At this point, you have lost your initial payment and are on your way to the second round of negotiations. The most common hotels that are used by the escort agencies for incall are the hotels on E161 close to I71. They also use the hotels behind the Continent (Zumstein Dr.). They also use the hotels off of Brice Rd. North and South of I70. The last common area they use are the hotels off of High St. (Rt. 23) north of I270.
7. Prior to meeting with a girl and her likely driver, you have to call the phone number they give you. Just be direct with them. Ask them if this is mutual masturbation and/or a dance ONLY. If they are a licensed agency/business, they might tell you the truth but it is unlikely. Another common response is "I can't discuss that over the phone". If they won't discuss it, you are about to get ripped off. Just to be sure, ask if there will be a driver. If they say “Yes”, just hang up. You are about to get ripped-off. One common quote they love to make is “I promise you won’t be disappointed”. Don’t be tricked. This quote means nothing and you will be disappointed.
8. A very high percentage of ads in the “Columbus Dispatch” and “The Other paper” are exactly what we have discussed above. ALL of the phonebook ads under “Escorts” listing agencies are as listed above. In addition, most of the girls’ ads in the Dispatch and Other Paper are actually ads from escort agencies listed in the phone book. The agencies have several phone numbers they use that all ring to the same phone and answered by the same operators. They change numbers like you change pants every morning. They change numbers because they know guys won’t call the same number that is known as a rip-off number.
9. As you may already know, there are open businesses that you are aware of (You can find there ads in the “Dispatch” sports section) in which these businesses offer mutual masturbation. At least one of these businesses are responsible for sending girls your way with a driver also. Remember, they have several phone lines also.
10. Remember, they want you to believe they are doing something illegal. It’s a game of words. An example of this is an ad that says "this is not an offer of prostitution". This is reverse psychology. They think if they post this that you will believe it is prostitution. This is probably the only time in reality that they aren't lying (This only applies to CL). For other reverse psychology phrases, see rules 7 and 11.
11. If you have made the mistake of paying the driver and the secondary costs to the girl, she will continue to tell you that "The more you pay, the more you get". Though, she won't tell you how much more no matter what. She will just continue to get you to try to pay more and more. The more you pay, the more you will lose and the simple fact is, you will never get to touch her and she won't touch you no matter how much you pay.
12. If the service advertises a rate for a half hour or you are offered a 30 minute rate, it's very likely to be mutual masturbation (DIY).
13. As you read this, remember, the local escort agencies and DIY scammers are reading this also. They are changing there tactics in advertising on CL in hopes that you won't distinguish them from a legitimate provider. You have to use common sense. Think with the big head and not the little fireman. If the ad seems to good to be true, it is. Hot women do not suddenly show up in Columbus and just start advertising on CL.
14. One way to spot a scammer is to keep a running list of phone numbers of suspicious ads. Eventualy, you will find the same phone numbers listed in multiple ads for different girls. I know, I told you earlier that they change numbers like you change your pants every morning. They do change there numbers frequently, but they also use a number long enough until they feel it is no longer of any use to them. In addition, compare numbers you get on CL to phone numbers listed in the "Dispatch" and "The Other Paper". When you find a match, compare the ads. The comparison should raise a red flag.
15. If you do meet one of these girls and get burned. Remember, you are angry at the girls(s), driver, and the agency. The best revenge you can put on them is to take money out of there pocket by reporting which CL ads are a SCAM. Give as much detailed information as possible to include the phone number in the ad, a description of the girl(s), driver, and the vehicle he/she is driving. CL is anonymous so there is no fear of embarressment. DO NOT report legitimate providers as scams. It only defeats the purpose of our goals. If you have a personal problem with a legitimate provider, take it to "Rants and Raves".
16. You should NEVER invite these people over to your home or apartment. (Hypothetical) The girl and driver shows up. You see the red flags and cancel. If you refuse to pay the cancellation fee, they WILL intentionally make a scene in front of your residence waking up or getting the attention of your neihbors. They do this in an attempt to embarress you into paying them. This is the best case scenario. Use your imagination and you should come up with many other possible bad scenarios or crimes that could result from this. Just ask yourself, do you really want these people to know where you live?
17. WHERE THE MONEY GOES - The intial payment mostly goes to the agency. The second round of negotiations goes to the girl (Second round of negotiations usually start at about $200 to $300). The driver gets a percentage of the take from the second round of negotiations and possibly gets a small cut of the initial costs.
18. Recently some of the scammers have began to post ads without pictures. They are requesting that you e-mail them first before you receive a picture. They are doing this because the guys are catching on to the scammers ads and flagging them. Lets use commos sense, why won't they post them in the ad but instead e-mail them? Use common sense. Also, refer to rule #13.
19. On 6-25-2007, A male by the name of Mike responded to this post claiming that he would offer drivers services to girls, Craigslist posting number 360084157. In the post he seemed concerned with the reputation of drivers and the girls safety. He offered to be a driver for the girls and would not accept additional money from the girls. In addition he said he would be there to make sure nobody got ripped-off, scammed, or hurt. He said this was a new idea so that the driver isn't always a bad thing. With this, I contacted Mike pretending to be a local Escort Agency. I offered Mike a job with certain conditions and an understanding of what the job entailed. I told Mike; 1. He would pick up the girls and take them to meet upscale gentlemen. 2. Once the lady is paid, he would hold the money until the lady returns. 3. Under no circumstances, would he give a refund to the gentleman. 4. He would be responsible for collecting a $150 cancellation fee. 5. He would be paid $10 per customer and 20% of additional monies after the intitial fee collected by the lady. 6. Oh yea, and the services offered only by the female are DIY (Mutual Masterbation). Mike gladly accepted the job offer knowing all of the above. Mike knew he was advertising his services fraudulently with every intention of becoming part of the scam. This clearly makes my point as stated above. If there is a driver, it is a SCAM! Thanks for your help Mike. By the way, I did save the electronic paper trail so you couldn't deny it later.
20. This post will not last very long. Let's do everyone a favor and work together on this one. Copy and paste this post to your hard drive. When you notice that the post has been flagged and deleted from CL, re-post it. Everyone has a right to know about this ongoing scam. If enough people know about this, the rip-off artists will stop posting here.
21. I have received requests from people asking for a recommended provider or asking if a specific post is a scam. I do not respond to these e-mails. The most common question is "I called this girl who posted and she sounded really nice over the phone". How is she supposed to sound that shows her as a scam? If you are asking this type of question, you are thinking with the little fireman. The goal of these posts is to show you how to deal with the confrontation of a suspected scam. If I provided information on legitimate providers, it would delegitimize this post as a whole and would show a personal agenda. This post shows you how to pick out legitimate posts and how to pick up the signs of a suspected scam. If you simply memorize these simple rules, it is unlikely you are going to get ripped-off. Their are guys out there who actually believe it is worth spending up to $1000 to have a female watch him jack off. This post does not apply to these guys. It applies to guys who are looking for more then jacking themselves off and avoiding girls who mislead them into believing they will get more then mutual masturbation.
Actually, it makes me glad. Hey--I can get scammed with SW for only 0.2-0.3. If I go for escorts, I could get scammed for 2.0-4.0, and beaten up to boot!
On the other hand, this hobby teaches one about the baser elements of human nature... Yes, I have been ripped off by SWs, numerous times (no recently, I am happy to report), just look at some of my early posts...
I found it interesting that many of the cautions in the CL/escort post are covered by my Mongering 101 list... ESPECIALLY, do NOT give up the $ up front!!! And be SURE it is clear what for which? And do not get yourself into a corner.
So... for newcomers, read carefully, be CAUTIOUS, do not commit to anything until tests have been performed.
Thanks D Nut for the post. I actually enjoyed reading it as a cautionary tale. And the writer has good style! Love the repetitive "You are about to get ripped-off..." Truer statement was never made.
Thanks for the post, and welcome back, stranger!
I found this on CL.... good info to have....
D'Nut
PS--- What's up guys? Long time no see....
I took notes from a friend of mine about his recent experience in OTR:
He reports that he picked up M******e in OTR yesterday around 6:30 PM. (He said she was the ONLY prospect on the streets at that time): glamorous, tall, thin, blonde, about 30. At first, with her standing on a corner, so good looking in her jeans, white top and sunglasses, that he was worried she was part of a sting. (She said thanks when he told her this later). Said he circled around three times, finally pulled into a side street. She followed and jumped right in. "Need a ride?" "Sure..."
He said she was SO congenial, it was a GFE. While her face was a little pock marked, her smile and attitude trumped that. She eagerly agreed to the feel test. (He said she spent considerable attention to the area between his legs... so much that he was pretty much ready by the time they got to the spot.) She said she loved what she does. (He said if it isn't true, she deserves an Oscar!)
At his favorite spot (agreed on BBBJCIM for the usual fare), he says she displayed unbelievable oral skills: taking plenty of time, caressing, massaging, little finger exploring the distant nether land... (I wish it had been me!!!) This guy would not stop about the pleasure she lavished on him. She told him afterward that she was all tingly from the experience. This is not a usual SW line, even it IS a line. He ate it up. He said, if he were scoring her: looks: 8, cleanliness: 9, attitude: 10, skills: 10. Yes, he said she likes butter on her bread.
He said she gave him digits, but he does not know if they work. He will get back to me if they do. She told him she is out only a couple days a week. He considered himself fortunate to be there on one of those days.
Don't we all wish we were him!!!
Giani
D-Nut good post! I have actually seen some of these a few times....never had problems with a driver but I have had the girl give me the "you won't be disappointed" and The price is all inclusive routine only to try and re-negotiate when she showed up. I always held negotiation to the caliber and attitude of the provider. I agree if the girl isn't as advertised send her packing and tell the agency she doesn’t bath. Once from a major upscale hotel during a big convention I told the agency receptionist that I had seven other potential clients in the hotel waiting for a full report before they placed an order, the provider they sent was gorgeous and very attentive; all inclusive in the price quoted by the agency. You have to have a counter scam...but it can only work so many times. As for the drivers that want to come to the door and collect the money.....I look out the peep hole and if it is a guy I won't answer the door, if the agency calls I simply tell them I ordered a female not a male and then hang up.
Mr Boombastic
07-13-07, 21:02
Man it must have been task force Wednesday.
There seemed to be more le out then than on the weekend. They had dealers lined up against the walls all over otr/we. That is a good thing! But it rids the area of SW's. No dealers, no girls, no action, no need to bother!
Even the ones not worth picking up were gone. And a lot of le were making themselves obvious sitting in their cars only about 50-100 ft. Way from the dealers. I was just glad it never came to a confrontation, but it looked like both sides "wanted" one.
I came away empty handed, but I did se some new tricks used by both side in the game of "cat & mouse". If you are out and you see an over abundance of le mobile and walking, plan for another day.
And to the guy if you read the wsg and this forum, fix your muffler. As you were being obvious in your cruising, anyone could hear you from a mile away. Ya it could be an le trick, but I don't think it was. One of the exsw's I was talking to who went ligit for now told me she knows him. I would think he would know better. And the color of his car really helped him stand out. The man really looked out of "place. " hopefuly he reads this forum. He was cruising for about 90 minues, because he drove past where I was parked about 4xs. I guess maybe eventually he found something or just gave up.
All in all. The streets for my taste were "M. T."?
Cincy Sinner
07-19-07, 08:11
Ran across this... gotta love the guy's name too. :-)
http://www.wxix.com/Global/story.asp?S=6807328
Sheesh. I doubt we have the whole, clear story here, but several thoughts:
a) Just proves that a male libido does not necessarily disappear by the time you are 90! Sex can STILL get you in trouble after nine decades. If he can get it up at that age, he deserves a medal. If he can't then how extensive can the damage be?
b) Pulled the leg of his shorts up??? How lame is this bust? He wasn't waving it in the public breeze, right? *Who* was attracted to this guy, and peered down into this 90 year old's *KIA* to see what they could see???
c) Can you blame a 90 year old, faced with the offer of some young snatch (even an "under the cover" decoy), for involuntarily reaching out just to see if it is REAL? (Stings should be limited to hornets and bees...)
OK--I am HARDLY defending pedophiles who lure children off into the woods. But this is HARDLY such a case. Can we get LE to address serious crime?
And heck, if your name is Dickman, don't you have a responsibility to live up to the name?
Thanks CS for this post of the pathetic sides of our region, both LE, and sad old men.
Giani
Ran across this... gotta love the guy's name too. :-)
http://www.wxix.com/Global/story.asp?S=6807328
Mr Boombastic
07-21-07, 06:12
Man it is apparent. That, this 90 y/o man needed some mental help, not time in jail. He needs to be in the lewis center, or a very restrictive rest home. Some place away from the rest of the patience there. It is amazing at 90 he could even get to the park. I think in this guys earlier day, he might have done this before. I mean few people fear a 90y/o unarmed man, unless you're a 90y/o women.
I do feel kinda "sorry" for him. I hope doesn't have a stroke or heart attack while in jail.
But. Lets face it. It was "funny" to hear about!
Ran across this... gotta love the guy's name too. :-)
http://www.wxix.com/Global/story.asp?S=6807328
The following report has the Acadamy winner best song for 2006.
From: Hustle & Flow
Composed by: Paul Beauregard, Cedric Coleman, Jordan Houston (Music/Lyrics)
"You know it's hard out here for a pimp (you ain't knowin)?When he tryin to get this money for the rent (you ain't knowin)?For the Cadillacs and gas money spent (you ain't knowin)?Because a whole lot of bitches talkin shit (you ain't knowin)?Will have a whole lot of bitches talkin shit (you ain't knowin)"
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Here's a few pics of the regular SW's with their pimps. I've noticed that most of the girls have a pimp these days. Rare you see a girl working on her own in OTR or dosen't have a pimp. Anyone willing to share what they know about any of the following SW's in the pictures? I especially would like to know about the thin SW with dark shoulder length hair in the picture on the corner of Findley with her pimp and in the picture of her alone on Elm & McMicken. She is one of busiest in OTR. Is she worth it?
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"In my eyes I done seen some crazy thangs in the streets?Gotta couple hoes workin on the changes for me?But I gotta keep my game tight like Kobe on game night?Like takin from a ho don't know no better, I know that ain't right"
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Personally I don't trust a SW that's with a pimp at her side. In other cities, my experienced has been poor when trying to hookup with them. They want to talk about a deal through the window first before getting in your car or the pimp himself walks up and deals with you before the girl would get in the car. Hell with that crap I never would talk with the pimp and I would end up driving off. Also the SW with a pimp would have higher prices and would never negotiate and had limits on what she will do. What can anyone tell me about their experience with a SW and pimp here in OTR.
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"Man these girls think we prove thangs, leave a big head?They come hopin every night, they don't end up bein dead?Wait I got a snow bunny, and a black girl too?You pay the right price and they'll both do you?That's the way the game goes, gotta keep it strictly pimpin?Gotta have my hustle tight, makin change off these women, yeah"
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Just want to start a discussions on the SW and the pimp scene I see all the time now that OTR has less girls than a year ago. Slim pickens and very few new faces. Honestly none really look good to me and for the last year I've not picked up one SW in OTR. There are other areas in Cincy and Covington Ky where I've found more and more girls are coming out. Better quality and better prices. A few post back I've read someone was saying WSW in OTR were charging .50 as their bottom starting price! That's crazy and I haven't seen a .50 quality in OTR for a long time. The right girl I'll pay that for BBBJ and FS but she has to look good and has a good attitude. What has been the going rate for FS from the SW in OTR lately? Frantly the heavy present of LE makes it hard for me to meet anyone in OTR. Everytime I'm down in OTR there's a sheriff or LE in car or on bike near me.
Watch carefully for LE and be safe and:
You know it's hard out here for a pimp (you ain't knowin)
Harpo2u
Here are the two people just recently caught having sex at 200 West Central Parkway during rush hour.
Do you think the guy has any sense about finding a nice quiet place for a quickie. He certainly never RTFF. This is an excellent example why you leave the area if you pick-up a SW. A few weeks back I was watching the Liberty, Walnut and Main street area and couldn't believe how several mongers pick-up SW's.
1: They were talking to the girl before she got in the car.
2: The monger never checked his surroundings for LE or possible under-cover watching. Which could of been me taking pictures and alerting LE to move in on him.
3: A couple of mongers were leaving with the SW to a nearby spot ( 3 -4 blocks away) for their service and they never noticed that I've followed and seen were they went.
Were they newbies that don't follow the rules or maybe they don't know about this site and all the trouble they can get into. Your guess is good as mine. Either way I saw some pretty stupid stuff lately by amateurs.
Anyone seen the woman before? She kind of looks familiar to me. Is she a regular SW in OTR or just a stupid horny broad?
RTFF and learn the Rules or this will happen to you.
Harpo2U
You pointed out several mistakes he made, not the least of which is to get the hell out of the area for any activity he might have anticipated...
Gotta ask tho--were you following these unfortunates?? We don't think that is such a good idea...
A) We all need privacy... (tho I understand your interest)
B) If they think you are LE, it could get sticky to say the least
C) You could get snared in the whole mess if LE is watching the scenario going down...
Here are the two people just recently caught having sex at 200 West Central Parkway during rush hour.
Do you think the guy has any sense about finding a nice quiet place for a quickie. He certainly never RTFF. This is an excellent example why you leave the area if you pick-up a SW. A few weeks back I was watching the Liberty, Walnut and Main street area and couldn't believe how several mongers pick-up SW's.
1: They were talking to the girl before she got in the car.
2: The monger never checked his surroundings for LE or possible under-cover watching. Which could of been me taking pictures and alerting LE to move in on him.
3: A couple of mongers were leaving with the SW to a nearby spot ( 3 -4 blocks away) for their service and they never noticed that I've followed and seen were they went.
Were they newbies that don't follow the rules or maybe they don't know about this site and all the trouble they can get into. Your guess is good as mine. Either way I saw some pretty stupid stuff lately by amateurs.
Anyone seen the woman before? She kind of looks familiar to me. Is she a regular SW in OTR or just a stupid horny broad?
RTFF and learn the Rules or this will happen to you.
Harpo2U
I had a feeling someone wouldn't really understand the point I was making about watching your surroundings when picking up SW.
I had a feeling someone wouldn't really understand I'm trying to help others in their pursue of picking up SW. The purpose of this Board is "Men looking for Women for Sex".
I'm not interested in following other mongers and watching. This was a one short afternoon while doing personal business in OTR. I saw the guy pick up a SW and go down a dead end street near Liberty St. and Main St. When he drove off I drove off at the same time going in the same direction myself. He pulled down a dead end street with his SW and I drove on past the street going my merry way. I didn't park nearby and watch the dude. I knew that the SW probably directed him to that spot. Not a good idea if it was. Watching him no.
That's NOT MY INTEREST DUDE!
I was making a point that the guy was really careless and when he was talking to the SW at the time there were several people nearby and couldn't miss seeing what happening. It took place on Main St. where people were doing business in the middle of the afternoon with the shops open. I was doing business at the time myself with other people coming out and going in a shop! I was a bit surprised that this dude was so open about what he was doing in an area that you need to be MORE CAREFUL. Rules do apply in all areas but it's a big difference when you have a lot of people in an area and businesses are watching activity and will call LE on this activity compared to an area like Elm St. between Findley and McMicken St.
Do you, Giani, feel that operation Vortex is over and finish in OTR and things are back to the way they were a year and a half ago?
Also LE has purchased Segways for patrolling upper Price Hill area along Warsaw and Glenway Ave. The Segways have cameras on them so that another LE in a patrol car on his laptop can watch what is going on in real time. We are in a Big Brother digital world.
Do you now get the picture or are you worry about privacy?!
Also, could you explain the statement you, Giani, made about "things getting sticky" and "I could get snared in the whole thing". Sounds like threats you made.
Let me say this, a couple of years ago a SW I've pickup once and she was a rip off artist. It was no real biggie but never the less she was out to rip off other mongers. I happen to see her again and she was trying to flag down another guy to rip off. The other guy was about to hook up with her but I rode by and motioned to the guy for his attention and quickly told him she was no good and will rip you off. He nodded and drove off knowing that I knew the ***** and was helping him out. I had the same thing happened to me a couple of times by other mongers in another city.
Giani, did I invade this one guy's privacy? Or did I helped him?
If privacy is your concern, then why are you on this board?
I know I'm coming across hard at you, Giani, but you really missed my point and purpose for that report. I wanted others to understand that as well.
Harpo2U
You pointed out several mistakes he made, not the least of which is to get the hell out of the area for any activity he might have anticipated...
Gotta ask tho--were you following these unfortunates?? We don't think that is such a good idea...
A) We all need privacy... (tho I understand your interest)
B) If they think you are LE, it could get sticky to say the least
C) You could get snared in the whole mess if LE is watching the scenario going down...
Man it is apparent. That, this 90 y/o man needed some mental help, not time in jail. He needs to be in the lewis center, or a very restrictive rest home. Some place away from the rest of the patience there. It is amazing at 90 he could even get to the park. I think in this guys earlier day, he might have done this before. I mean few people fear a 90y/o unarmed man, unless you're a 90y/o women.
I do feel kinda "sorry" for him. I hope doesn't have a stroke or heart attack while in jail.
But. Lets face it. It was "funny" to hear about!
I assumed the guy got busted doing that lame "are you a cop" test where you either grab a feel or expose yourself. It looks like he got busted for both. I don't think he was randomly exposing himself. According to the article, he was in his car, and had contact with an undercover cop.
Mr Boombastic
07-24-07, 15:25
. Man I know where you are coming from.
I see the same thing all the time. Look at the end of my post #573. The dude with the loud muffler, trying to pick up SW's. You could hear him a mile away. I see folks do the same damn thing at all the corners, and I see the girl walk so damn slow over to your car, that I have just drove away. The smarter one's are quick on it and know the deal.
But I have been told. They are there in the hot spots because that is where the money is at, and thus take the risk. You know those drugs make them do crazy shyt.
I have told the girlz to be somewhere else and move away from the hot spot, and keep an activate cell phone. But they never do either. Who is surprised by that. Even the regulars have are moving around more. And with the good weather more men are going out to hunt. I don't call them mongers, because most mongers know better. Most not "all"?
So I can see the merit in what you are saying. I use to be able to almost guarantee someone I can pick up within a 1-2 hour search, theat I considered decent. Well, not anymore!
I told you people these SW's out there who are decent but not harecore SW are asking for more money. The fewer decent ones out the higher the price they want. I almost had to pay 40 for one Friday night. Only because she was a friend of an SW I personally knew did I get fs at 30. Now we have a standing price. No more no less! Pix are 5 extra, and that ain't bad. If I am getting a break in price, it is according to how I previously treated them or an okay from a friend we both know and trust.
I do see where giani is coming from too, because I have driven up on some SW's in a car and told them just to meet me at a particular spot, and the dude were so frighten that they dumped the girl out right then, and drove off. So I stopped that. They know if they see me I will be waiting at a spot they know I'll be at for the next 30-40 minutes. So they get dropped off close by. So I can see g-mans point too!
The streets were dead last weekend. And le was hot everywhere.
. I told you people these SW's out there who are decent but not harecore SW are asking for more money. The fewer decent ones out the higher the price they want. I almost had to pay 40 for one Friday night. Only because she was a friend of an SW I personally knew did I get fs at 30. Now we have a standing price. No more no less! Pix are 5 extra, and that ain't bad. If I am getting a break in price, it is according to how I previously treated them or an okay from a friend we both know and trust.
Thanks Boombastic
Your right about most mongers should know better about picking up girls. There must be a lot of newbies coming out and probably paying the higher prices and not knowing better. This is hurting the regular mongers like us and if you add the price of gasoline it's costing us more than last year prices.
Personally .4 or even .5 for FS and BBBJ and any-other acts is not that bad of a price when you compare to the prices the girls on the CL are asking!
If the girl is decent looking and gives good services then I can't really complain. There will be girls going for higher prices and then you do find some girls with better bargins for your bucks out there. This is a free capitalistic country and best that it is that way.
However, remember we really have what they want. We have the MONEY. We can live with out their Pu**y. They need our MONEY for their drug habits. They can't live on their good looks for long. Get word out if you can that us regular mongers will not pay more for less. Start turning them down if they don't come down on prices. This will let the pimps out there know who is in charge. The pimps are the ones behind the higher prices.
We can shop in other areas and look for better bargins if we post on here where and what. We can help each other out which is what this board is all about. Not info about some old gay guy getting caught in the park.
Now a change of topic.
Here is a newbie SW in another part of the city. Spacy Stacy I call her. She was a .4 for everything I wanted plus the pics. Nice girl a part-timer. She'll do whatever you want with no complains or attitude which is rare with the OTR SW in my experiences. Also I have digits but sometimes she out of minutes. They never learn do they. Stacy very much like a girl next door except her drug habit is coke:-)
Another thing about paying prices if you had paid .4 or .5 once and treat they nice and they call you for a hookup, they will come down in price. Understand. I turned the tables around on the "Supply and Demand" rules. I discovered that if I give them my digits and they call me because they need MONEY then I'm in control and can call what price I can pay. Learn how to deal gentlemen, learn how to deal with SW beside the old standard drive up and pick them up let them state the price. It's like playing chess.
Think about it gentlemen.
Here are a few pics for you to enjoy.
Happy hunting and be safe out there,
Harpo2u
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Wanted to post pictures of a regular provider from NKY. I call her "J" and She is in Covington. That is all I can say. I did have digits but she lost her phone but she is usually out and about at the usual spots.
She's one that calls me and we hookup at the Kroger's for the right price. She has a friendly attitude and been a regular of mine for quite awhile. During the last winter when pickings were slim to none in the OTR, she was one of a few that kept me warm through the cold nights.
Happy hunting and be safe out there.
Harpo2U
I did some mongering last Friday night outside of OTR and found a couple of WSW. The first one I picked up was a short thin cutie named Jodie. I wanted to go to a hotel and have some fun but she said she doesn't leave her neighborhood. I'd never heard that before. I tried to find a spot but she was paranoid about the cops. She suggested a BBBJ for .2 while I drove around. I agreed but she proceeded to say that she would meet me later and go to the hotel. She got me for the .2 with no service! I guess she needed a fix. She actually wanted me to wait for her. I said ok to get away from her. Like I would ever give her another dollar! I cruised some more and did see Jodie out again. She tried to wave me down. Maybe she was serious about going to the hotel. I decided to pass her by since I already lost the .2 .
I did cruise another area where I was surprised to find another WSW. Her name was Amberly. She told me their were alot of Trannies in the area. She was in her early 20's and was a little chubby but decent looking. I took her to her place. We had to wait as 5 people got out of the apt. so we could be alone. That was a little strange. We agreed on 1/2 & 1/2 for .40. Her BBBJ was really bad. The sex was wonderful! She played with herself and rubbed my johnson on her wet snatch before we did it missionary. She seemed to be enjoying it and whispered naughty things in my ear as I rode her hard. I asked for her number. She said she didn't have a phone but I could knock on her Apt. window if I wanted to get together again.
I did some mongering last Friday night outside of OTR and found a couple of WSW. The first one I picked up was a short thin cutie named Jodie. Sounds like you may have crossed paths with McKenzie/Jodie and the scam sounds consistent. Several of her CL reviews as McKenzie made it sound like she's a committed scammer.
Here's the link to Harpo's comments over in the Escort folder.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?t=3978
I saw Harpo's Jodie a couple days ago late afternoon heading down State looking totally wacked out. The pics on the web look passable but it looks like the street (and chemistry) has taken its toll on her.
Dz
Broad St Guy
08-02-07, 08:02
I did some mongering last Friday night outside of OTR and found a couple of WSW. The first one I picked up was a short thin cutie named Jodie. I wanted to go to a hotel and have some fun but she said she doesn't leave her neighborhood. I'd never heard that before. I tried to find a spot but she was paranoid about the cops. She suggested a BBBJ for .2 while I drove around. I agreed but she proceeded to say that she would meet me later and go to the hotel. She got me for the .2 with no service! I guess she needed a fix. She actually wanted me to wait for her. I said ok to get away from her. Like I would ever give her another dollar! I cruised some more and did see Jodie out again. She tried to wave me down. Maybe she was serious about going to the hotel. I decided to pass her by since I already lost the .2 .
I did cruise another area where I was surprised to find another WSW. Her name was Amberly. She told me their were alot of Trannies in the area. She was in her early 20's and was a little chubby but decent looking. I took her to her place. We had to wait as 5 people got out of the apt. so we could be alone. That was a little strange. We agreed on 1/2 & 1/2 for .40. Her BBBJ was really bad. The sex was wonderful! She played with herself and rubbed my johnson on her wet snatch before we did it missionary. She seemed to be enjoying it and whispered naughty things in my ear as I rode her hard. I asked for her number. She said she didn't have a phone but I could knock on her Apt. window if I wanted to get together again.
1. RTFF
2. The first one did not want to leave the area as she either wanted rip you off - which she did, or two she had some guy watching over her and needed to hurry so he could get high as well - or 3- all of the above. Be careful.
3. The 2nd girl did not take you to "her place". She took you to a place of business and you are lucky the 5 people actually left.
4. RTFF again, learn and be careful.
No, I'm not going to say RTFF... (a little harsh?) But I am sure you have learned a lot from these two encounters. Thanks from all of us for posting and reinforcing what our big heads were TRYING to tell us.
1) Jodie: I too have fronted $ only to have the (SO sweet thing) SW disappear without a trace. BSG's point here, and mine, is NO "up front $"! Never. A token may be OK, like 0.05 or 0.1. But money in her hand means you'll never get in that bird's bush.)
2) Be VERY cautious about going to HER spot. It is likely to be THEIR spot, and he will not be a friendly sort... I once had a girl refuse several of my spots, only, when I said forget it, threatened to pull a gun and blow my brains out... I did not test the truth of her threat, but DID manage to get a picture of her as I pushed her out of the open door of the moving car... and I posted her picture.
3) Amberly? See above... One of my painful early lessons was to go to "a friend's" place, then, when neither of us had a condom, she said "I'll be right back..." NOT. Involving 5 other people in the activity is opening yourself WAY too much to very negative outcomes... get it?
However, don't we all LOVE to hear those naughty words in our ears. And, if you are careful about the correct set and setting, most SWs want to please, if only for return business. But do not put temptation in front of them. Hey--did you resist temptation when it was placed in front of you? With proper limits, most SWs give pleasing service. But even the best may take you for a less than pleasant ride if you put too much temptation in front of them.
Thanks again for the post. Made me smile--sort of. Glad no one got hurt. And 0.2 is a small tuition for the lesson you may have learned.
See my 13 rules of Mongering 101--all these points are mentioned there...
At the risk of repeating myself, see rules 7, 8 and 10 to start with:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=524144#post524144
Giani
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I did some mongering last Friday night outside of OTR and found a couple of WSW. The first one I picked up was a short thin cutie named Jodie. I wanted to go to a hotel and have some fun but she said she doesn't leave her neighborhood. I'd never heard that before. I tried to find a spot but she was paranoid about the cops. She suggested a BBBJ for .2 while I drove around. I agreed but she proceeded to say that she would meet me later and go to the hotel. She got me for the .2 with no service! I guess she needed a fix. She actually wanted me to wait for her. I said ok to get away from her. Like I would ever give her another dollar! I cruised some more and did see Jodie out again. She tried to wave me down. Maybe she was serious about going to the hotel. I decided to pass her by since I already lost the .2 .
Where did you meet Jodie? If she a rip-off give more details about her like where she was working. Also did she look like this girl from an earlier post of mine http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=547127&postcount=10
The other two guys ( Giani and Broad St Guy) gave good info to follow but they didn't or don't have a plan what to do if you're in a spot where the girl has threatened you in some way.
I was going to post what to do but decided not. If you want to really know you can PM me.
Reason for this is private and everyone has their own ideas and comfort level as what they will and can do if a SW threatened you harm.
I've been in that spot a couple of times and had handled it and not become a victim.
The main thing to learn while cruising for SW is spotting a good SW and a bad SW. You just develop a inner instinct about it after awhile. All the reading of the Forum helps but you need to find what works for you and have you're own wisdom when hunting.
Be careful and always be the one in control of who, where and what.
Harpo2U
Broad St Guy
08-02-07, 20:44
No, I'm not going to say RTFF... (a little harsh?)
What? Read the Friendly Forum? :)
She was walking with two white guys before I picked her up on State Ave. She did look like Mckenzie that Harpo2u talked about. I can't say for sure if that was her. She has the same hair style and color hair. She didn't really have the hardcore look I have seen in some of the WSW. She was thin and wearing a pink shirt and white pants. I didn't follow the rules and got burned. I had a bad feeling about her not wanting to go to a hotel room. I should have listened to my instincts and dropped her off as soon as I heard that line.
Cute! Nice response.
What? Read the Friendly Forum? :)
A $20 lesson isn't bad. I remember the first time I ever had an interaction with an SW in Covington years ago. I changed my mind and wanted her out of my car. I was going to give her $20 when she grabbed my wallet, took the $100 bill out of it and tossed the wallet back to me. At the same time her pimp made his way to my car and punched the top of it as I was leaving the scene.
Will be in the area next week, small burg about 40 miles west of Cincy, any suggestions on AMPs or escort incalls in Cincy, Lawrenceburg or the Covington / Newport area, I'm leaving Orlando Florida on Monday. Your feedback is greatly appreciated.
I get tired of matcho mongers who complain that, in the event of being ripped off, we should have pulled out our piece... I mean... Who, who has done more than two or three mongering trips, has not had an unfortunate experience? My point is that EVERYONE of us should post with details the experience so we can all learn from the experience.
the good news is that it is quite a while since I experience the cash and dash scenario. And NO, you cannot always tell from the presentation of the SW. Kelsey (see my post), had SUCH a sweet smile, but turned sour in a very serious way.
Thanks for your post.
Giani
A $20 lesson isn't bad. I remember the first time I ever had an interaction with an SW in Covington years ago. I changed my mind and wanted her out of my car. I was going to give her $20 when she grabbed my wallet, took the $100 bill out of it and tossed the wallet back to me. At the same time her pimp made his way to my car and punched the top of it as I was leaving the scene.
A $20 lesson isn't bad. I remember the first time I ever had an interaction with an SW in Covington years ago. I changed my mind and wanted her out of my car. I was going to give her $20 when she grabbed my wallet, took the $100 bill out of it and tossed the wallet back to me. At the same time her pimp made his way to my car and punched the top of it as I was leaving the scene.
Yes this is a good post because it proves a point that I've made in post: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=550008&postcount=577
No one made any comments right after I wrote that piece. I guess no one was interested in the topic or didn't have anything to share.
Yes we all have been ripped-off by a SW at one time or another. That doesn't mean pull out your piece and blast her. However, when a SW makes a physical threat or she's about to jab you with an object like a knife or something sharp, you can and should defend yourself by what ever means.
Take Weedman's situation about the pimp jumping on his car and damaging his vehicle. He got robbed by the SW and Weedman decided to leaving the scene yet the pimp wanted to hurt him when Weedman didn't do anything to deserve this action.
Now maybe some of you can understand my point about pimps. I believe you have a much higher chance of getting robbed by the SW & Pimp team you see around OTR. Just my opinion. I've seen, been in and heard strange and bad stuff about pimps. This is from places I've been like NYC and Chicago and many other cities where I've monger before Cincy.
What Weedman should have reported at the time of that incident:
1) Where did it happen and what time it occurred.
(Did you see the pimp at the time when the SW got in your car)
(Pulling out your wallet in front of a SW is not a good idea)
2) Did you drive to another location after the SW got in your car or were you still at the place you picked her up?
3) What did the SW and Pimp look like in as much detail as you can remember.
4) If he could at a later time and under safe conditions, take a picture of the pimp and SW.
5) This step would be done anonymously if he wanted. Tell the police what happen.
You can write all you can about what happened but not everyone reads this forum. Sometimes you need to take the next step and report crime like robbery and assault so that the next guy won't go through that or worst. Yes I understand the thoughts of I've learned my lesson but too afraid to tell because I'm a monger and don't want to trouble from LE.
At that I'll say it's a choice you can make or not. It's up to you.
In other cities I've had other mongers motion to talk while out about telling me any problems from SW down the street. Telling me about rip offs and robbers. Those were the days before we had this board or internet.
In this game of mongering there will be some troubles but when it moves to life and death situation, defend yourself and worry later. What choice do you pick 1) being in in trouble with LE or 2) trouble with a pimp with a weapon?
Just my thoughts guys. I thought this topic is a good one to discuss.
I've could of posted some new pics of recent finds but I get tired of all the PM's from other "new mongers" with anywhere from zero postings to about 2 or 3 weak postings wanting digits.
Here are some pics of women caught soliciting and prostitution in this county. Some are still locked up. Any look familiar.
Be Safe.
Harpou2
Nowadays I am EXTRA cautious. I don't know how many times I have had girls tell me I am paranoid. I take all the right precautions now. But like someone else said-- everyone has been ripped off at some point if it in long enough. It is better to be safe than sorry. Thankfully, that has been the only time someone has done the cash and dash on me. But I don't put myself in those positions any longer. That was the only time I ever picked up an sw who had a pimp. That is something I will never do now.
I have this friend who told me a story about his night. Apparently, he took some time tonight to cruise through OTR. Seemed slow except for a couple of the usual suspects along McMik. Also he noticed a couple unmarked LE driving around. Someone should tell them that hanging their arm out the window with their bright white shirts (and shoulder badges) kinda defeats the unmarked thing.
When he crossed the tracks over to the west side he found much more life on the street. He met Sherry, a WSW with a nice natural the rack that looked pretty good on the LE check and reddish long curly hair, along the north end of State and he found a quiet spot for a slow bbbjcimws. She did look better on the drive by than in the passenger seat but, all things considered, he thought she was a good find. Probably a 5-6 but I don't really know his scale. He said it was well worth the 0. 2 + 0. 05 tip. She asked for a ride back to the other end of State and he figured, what the heck, particularly since she didn't mention money until about 15 feet before where she wanted to be dropped off. Good attitude, good service, he'll look for her again. Maybe for more. I think he said something about her having a pretty broad menu.
He tried to get digits for me but, alas, there were none to be had. She's usually around in the neighborhood most evenings.
Sounds like the guy had a pretty good night.
Have a great day.
Dz
...When he crossed the tracks over to the west side he found much more life on the street. He met Sherry, a WSW with a nice natural the rack that looked pretty good on the LE check and reddish long curly hair, along the north end of State and he found a quiet spot for a slow bbbjcimws. She did look better on the drive by than in the passenger seat but, all things considered, he thought she was a good find. Probably a 5-6 but I don't really know his scale. He said it was well worth the 0. 2 + 0. 05 tip. She asked for a ride back to the other end of State and he figured, what the heck, particularly since she didn't mention money until about 15 feet before where she wanted to be dropped off. Good attitude, good service, he'll look for her again. Maybe for more. I think he said something about her having a pretty broad menu....Dz
Dweezil, your friend found the most assessable SW in LPH. That is Sherry and she has been working the State Ave for a long time. Meet her over a year ago at the Corner of West 8th Street and State Ave. There are several girls that work that corner and down along State Ave going north bound.
Sherry will do FS. She can be found out on State Ave. on most nights and at different hours. If you read my recent post #596 with all the pictures, Girl-11 is back out on State Ave and Girl-1 works on State but still in jail for now.
Also there are two Sherry's one with an "i" Sherri and she is petite with long hair. She'll do everything but she's not out as much as the other Sherry.
Sherry with reddish hair use to be dark color black but had recently colored to attract more mongers. This Sherry has her named tattooed on her neck.
I've got pics for you all to see. Also this is where a girl on the CL that goes by the name McKenzie but her street name and real name is Jodie. She is at the corner of West 8th Street & State Ave.
Be careful at there, LE does patrol around the area often.
Harpo2U
Mr Boombastic
08-07-07, 18:29
Hey dweezil. If le makes a mistake and continues to do it. By all means "don't let them know. We need the heads up on anything they do wrong. I even see a few myself, and when I see certain ones, I know it is better to go fishing. Then!
Otherwise it is a mater of timing. I have missed out especially over on the west side up the hill, because I was uncertain and overly cautious and she got picked up. I found a few parttimers, looking for some rent/bill money to cover till the next gov. Check. But I was slowed by trying to be right. And not drive up on someone just walking to the store or down the street. They can get pretty pissed about that. Then you have to leave the area. Often empty handed!
I have been lucky enough to have some SW's remember my number and call me, or refer me to her friend. I always cut a spot off for a referral. This way they can make cash by only making a phone call. We have a standard place to meet up at. They wait for me or vise versa, and we get each other about 10-15 minutes to be late. Any more than that, and you can cut out if you want. Then we pay the house 5-10 for 30-45-60m's according to needs. Once we get a standard standing arrangement. Things become so much easier!
I will be adding a few pix little by little over time. All of the ladies had a cell at the time, but they lose them, never have minutes, or are using a friends cell. Alway some excuse! I pay no more than 20-30 often including pix, but for pix no more than 5, and an extra 5 for good attitudes. Speaking of bad atitudes stya away from erica. An attractive light skinned black chick about 5'8", 25y/o, very thin, but shapely, and dresses decently, with a nice smile. She has started tryin to become a player, and is now about tryin to take someone for their money. Rush, rush, paranoid, scammer, very poor skills. She was better a few years ago, when she was honest. But she is a wanna be scammer. Plus she now has a boyfriend/pimp.
Understand. Now. Beware. She is often found in the area near wear the fags are. Almost the same corners, but not at the same time.
Enough said. Pix, please!
These are the remainder of a few previous pix.
Dweezil, your friend found the most assessable SW in LPH. That is Sherry and she has been working the State Ave for a long time. Meet her over a year ago at the Corner of West 8th Street and State Ave. There are several girls that work that corner and down along State Ave going north bound.
Sherry will do FS. She can be found out on State Ave. on most nights and at different hours. If you read my recent post #596 with all the pictures, Girl-11 is back out on State Ave and Girl-1 works on State but still in jail for now.
Also there are two Sherry's one with an "i" Sherri and she is petite with long hair. She'll do everything but she's not out as much as the other Sherry.
Sherry with reddish hair use to be dark color black but had recently colored to attract more mongers. This Sherry has her named tattooed on her neck.
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Be careful at there, LE does patrol around the area often.
Harpo2U
Harpo,
Thanks for the background. I checked this out with my friend (he doesn't have internet and he's kind of a dork around computers). He's pretty sure that your dark haired Sherry is his red headed Sherry but the cirCUMstances of their meeting prevented him from adequately inspecting her neck for a name tag. She also mentioned to him that LE is often around and, in fact, it took her a little while to get comfortable that my friend wasn't LE. He told her to check the car for donuts and that was that.
Have a great day.
Dz
Looks like I've finally become the board's most junior senior member. What can I say.
I'd like to thank my producer, my director, my screen....wait that's the wrong speech.
Ah...here it is...I'd like to thank Sherry, Lori, what's-her-name with the glasses, the woman from out near Florence, that wacko who rearranges the furniture every time she gets in my car (but I keep picking her up - what does that say about her talents???) and many other nameless faces with great racks. All of you have made this great accomplishment possible. So it is to you, SWs of SW Ohio that I stand before you today and say not the usual "spit or swallow?". No - today I stand before you and say "I am proud to be a USASG Senior Member".
Jackson - you can pin the lapel pin on my jacket now.
OK - any of you guys buying this chit ? :-) Thought not. Back to your regularly scheduled programming.
Have a great day.
Dz
Mr Boombastic
08-07-07, 19:04
I posted only a few of these. Her friend an older nice lookin woman had me take pictures of her, but for some reason my flash would not work, and they came out too dark. After I got home I found the problem. I will be going back very soon, because she is very willing, and she wants to do a movie to put on sites as a movie clip. For her enjoyment & freakiness!
She wants to be a porn star. At 40 y/o?
She wants to be a porn star. At 40 y/o?We can thank American Pie for this. MILF porn is very popular she could make alot money with this idea.
Doingitmyway
08-08-07, 15:46
Well it was bound to happen. I haven't had any bad luck yet but all good things come to and end. Decided it has been to damn hot to monger in the streets, checked out a few leads on craigslist but no luck there either. Checked out Citybeat and came across the ad of a sexy co-ed named Sam. Called her up and found out she was in the same place as Jessica from a while back. I was expecting similar service but was disappointed. First the good---she is SMOKIN' HOT! She had a pic on citybeat's webiste and other than the tiniest of pouches she is hot. Called her up set the appointment said she was "full release" and yada yada yada. GOt there and after I put my tongue back in my mouth she proceeded to give me a decent almost allover rubdown. About halfway through she finally took off all her clothed and laid down the rules (very restrictive). Just when she rolled me over and I was expecting what I was expecting, she told me "you have a few mintues left, you need some lotion? " needless to say, Ben Franklin ain't about self service, so I let her finish her massage and politely left. If you want a hottie to look at while getting an ok rub, and you don't mind self-service go for it.
Old timers (sheesh--if you have read to board for a year, you suddenly become an "old timer!") know that I far prefer the street action to the official print/cyber media come on. The costs are MUCH lower, and frankly, the degree of satisfaction can be as good or better. JTF's story seems SO familiar. Likewise, (if you will forgive me) JTF, the moves of a newcumer...
It just isn't fair to the inclinations of the little head, but if the provider looks so good that you have to put your tongue back in your mouth (or other appendage back in place...) Your caution light should go on. This encounter will probably NOT go easy on your wallet, be up to your expectations, nor leave you with a good taste in your mouth, and probably NOT leave a bad taste in her HER mouth..
You have probably seen my 13 rules "Mongering 101." They apply on the street, or in the expensive hotel room. AFTER convincing yourself that you are not in the presence of a very attractive female LE..., be up front about exactly what you would like from the encounter, and what you are willing to shell out for it. As on the street, extensive bargaining will probably not end well. Clearing up expectations makes the encounter SO much more satisfying and relaxing. Alternatively, the more experienced and attractive she is, the more likely she will leave things vague, leading your little head construct wonderful fantasies and to accept her at (lovely) face value. Hoboy...
Finally, also on my 13 rules, YOU NEED TO POST HER PICTURE. At this point, this board, because detailed posts about SW identity and location are problematic, we are best served by posts which detail the scam artists, how and where they work, and what they look like.
Frankly, I am sure that your (non) provider does not feel like she ripped you off because there was no discussion of expectations. But now you know. Find her pictures on City Beat or CL or where ever, and post the sh*t out of them. (We all want to see them.)
You do us all a service, and strengthen this board.
Giani
Well it was bound to happen. I haven't had any bad luck yet but all good things come to and end. Decided it has been to damn hot to monger in the streets, checked out a few leads on craigslist but no luck there either. Checked out Citybeat and came across the ad of a sexy co-ed named Sam. Called her up and found out she was in the same place as Jessica from a while back. I was expecting similar service but was disappointed. First the good---she is SMOKIN' HOT! She had a pic on citybeat's webiste and other than the tiniest of pouches she is hot. Called her up set the appointment said she was "full release" and yada yada yada. GOt there and after I put my tongue back in my mouth she proceeded to give me a decent almost allover rubdown. About halfway through she finally took off all her clothed and laid down the rules (very restrictive). Just when she rolled me over and I was expecting what I was expecting, she told me "you have a few mintues left, you need some lotion? " needless to say, Ben Franklin ain't about self service, so I let her finish her massage and politely left. If you want a hottie to look at while getting an ok rub, and you don't mind self-service go for it.
Pictraders69
08-09-07, 10:30
Well it was bound to happen. I haven't had any bad luck yet but all good things come to and end. Decided it has been to damn hot to monger in the streets, checked out a few leads on craigslist but no luck there either. Checked out Citybeat and came across the ad of a sexy co-ed named Sam. Called her up and found out she was in the same place as Jessica from a while back. I was expecting similar service but was disappointed. First the good---she is SMOKIN' HOT! She had a pic on citybeat's webiste and other than the tiniest of pouches she is hot. Called her up set the appointment said she was "full release" and yada yada yada. GOt there and after I put my tongue back in my mouth she proceeded to give me a decent almost allover rubdown. About halfway through she finally took off all her clothed and laid down the rules (very restrictive). Just when she rolled me over and I was expecting what I was expecting, she told me "you have a few mintues left, you need some lotion? " needless to say, Ben Franklin ain't about self service, so I let her finish her massage and politely left. If you want a hottie to look at while getting an ok rub, and you don't mind self-service go for it.
Thanks for the tip! I used to be a regular and one of Jessica's biggest fans. I've enjoyed multple times, Jess' manual service (and then some. although, I was never able to close the deal to my complete satisfaction?). I was going to try a session with 'Sam' this week, knowing that she was working with Jessica/Nicole/Tiffany/ the girl visiting from Miami or whatever she calls herself this month, lol? After reading your post, I think I'll pass ............. I'm not into self service either. I spoke with Jess a month ago and she led me to believe that 'Sam' was working just a couple days a week, was 'smokin hot, and may negotiate for better service?
These girls are all really hot, and are legit, but they seem to almost mislead their ads (and clients) with clevery chosen words (eg. 100% satisfaction guaranteed, all inclusive, etc) that don't tell the whole story, without letting you know any of their restrictions. If I found that their 'service' has improved, I wouldn't hesitate to give them another chance? They're not bad, but just not good enough, IMHO. As always, YMMV.
Buyer beware if you're looking for anything close to fs? Has anyone else had other experiences to share about Sam, Jessica, Nicole or any other of those hotties from Colerain? PM is OK if you don't wanna discuss this in the public arena.
Doingitmyway
08-09-07, 16:48
Trust me fellas, the lesson was learned. I will plead temporary insanity on the part of the little head. He will be severely punished. (Ok, that didn't sound right). Anyway, here is "Sam's" ad from city beat :
http://cincinnati.backpage.com/adult/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=oid%3A474300&name=body%20rubs
Oh well, I guess I will have to wait a few months before my Hamilton friends are back in business (three friends, all are guests of Butler County due to the recent stings). I need to move closer to PH!
My good buddy just called to gloat about his early morning activities. Apparently, he caught a case of insomnia and decided the best cure was probably somewhere down in OTR or LPH.
He saw 2-3 of the usual suspects down in LPH just hanging (including Sherry who looked completely wiped out) but, for the most part, the streets were dead. I said - WTF, it was 4:30am. After cruising for a while and grabbin' a cup of coffee, he headed over to OTR. Much more alive than LPH with a lot of options. He crossed paths with Sharon around 5:30. She's a waify short haired blonde WSW with a nice set of Cs. He said what reeled him in was that CMF stance she had - hand behind her head, hips cocked to one side, Very nice curb appeal. She's probably in her early/mid 30s and was hanging over on the east end of McM. He said the passenger seat view was down a couple notches but still better than the average WSW iin OTR these days.
I guess it was a little weird at first 'cuz her he said voice sounds like a character from one of those really old cops'n'robbers movies. (You know, the one where the guy says "OK Bugsy, let's split the loot and get outta town before the coppers get wise to us"). His first through was - hell, she's got lockjaw. Rest assured, that was not the case. Once he got past the voice, everything was okie dokie. A little drive up the hill to a quite sidestreet for a very nice BBBJCIMWS (kinda sloppy, some good DT, some moaning as he played with the Cs, and he said she took every drop and then some).
She wanted $$ up front but my friend told me about this list of rules he read somewhere and one of them was never pay before play or something like that. He said he held firm and really was ready to take her back - ever started up the car and was rolling - when she relented and got down to business. Sounds like they never really discussed the actual amount and he gave her 0.2 + 0.05 afterwards for making sure everything was nice and tidy. She counted and said thanks - no grumbling, no whining about tip/more/upsell/etc. Just good attitude.
All an all, it sounds like a good deal and he told me he'd look for her again. She seemed like a good FS candidate and implied there might be a full international menu for the right investment. He told me that it was probably an a$$ worth the air fare for a ride. I guess she mentioned that she only comes out once in a while (this was first time this week) and hangs out in the early hours before OTR really wakes up "and gets weird".
After I got off the phone I thought - why does he get all the fun and why does he call me up at 6:45 to tell me about it. Sheesh...what a jerk.
Have a good day.
Dz
Mr Boombastic
08-11-07, 22:24
Dweezil, man that is early. But it can be the best time!
I do BEST afterthe Clubs are closing and the Parttimers are leaving he Clubs "BROKE" and don't want to go home that way. No Cigs, No Milk Money, No Food Money for the Kids. So Ah Hunting We Will Go! Rabbit!
I WAS OUT TOO, and I think We saw the Same Sharon, in the same area. If it is the same, I by-passed her, because the last time she wanted to RUSH the event and I got MAD about it. She Normally doesn't, but I think she was JONESIN for a Fix. Still I told her it will be a while before there is a NEXT TIME. I actually Passed her by 3xs, and she was PISSED. This was about midnight. Plus she was in an area I told her I would NOT if at all possible pick up any SW in.
I did find a WSW leaving the AFTER HOURS place about 12:30am, which was MOST unusual. Pus she looked decent, and I was really puzzled then. I dashe in and relutantly she got into the car. She said I loked familiar. I worry about that. We talk the talk and then agreed on 30, where as her first quote was 50. NOT HARDLY! We went to outdoors, Out-of-the-Car spot close by, and she did a better than average job, and felt every stroke. We agreed to see each other on regular basis. But you know how that GOES!
No Digits. But I know where she lives and where friend good friend is. I have not meet the friend, but she tricks P/T too.
Still, the streets were clean of SW, other than the FAGS near Dunlap/McMik/Findlay. The Fags ran Sharon out of their area about 11:30pm. Those were some Big Boyz/Foyz!
There were several FUGLY SW's around the Mohawk area, but NOBODY even Stopped for them. The whole McMik strip was VOID of SW especially decent ones from 10p. 12:30a. My cap is usually MidNight and then I turn in. I started to do LPH, but they don't have good outof-the-car spots close by.
The Last time I was over that way, they were having a RACE Riot fight and the Police were closing in in all directions. The fight lasted 20 minuts before the Police arrived, and it included about 20-30 people fighting MEN & WOMEN!
I will have to try early mornings, but I just hate getting up that early to do anything other than to go to work!
PM me for MORE details?
BoomBastic,
.
My good buddy just called to gloat about his early morning activities. Apparently, he caught a case of insomnia and decided the best cure was probably somewhere down in OTR or LPH.
He saw 2-3 of the usual suspects down in LPH just hanging (including Sherry who looked completely wiped out) but, for the most part, the streets were dead. I said. WTF, it was 4:30am. After cruising for a while and grabbin' a cup of coffee, he headed over to OTR. Much more alive than LPH with a lot of options. He crossed paths with Sharon around 5:30. She's a waify short haired blonde WSW with a nice set of Cs. He said what reeled him in was that CMF stance she had. Hand behind her head, hips cocked to one side, Very nice curb appeal. She's probably in her early/mid 30s and was hanging over on the east end of McM. He said the passenger seat view was down a couple notches but still better than the average WSW iin OTR these days.
I guess it was a little weird at first 'cuz her he said voice sounds like a character from one of those really old cops'and'robbers movies. (You know, the one where the guy says "OK Bugsy, let's split the loot and get outta town before the coppers get wise to us"). His first through was. Hell, she's got lockjaw. Rest assured, that was not the case. Once he got past the voice, everything was okie dokie. A little drive up the hill to a quite sidestreet for a very nice BBBJCIMWS (kinda sloppy, some good DT, some moaning as he played with the Cs, and he said she took every drop and then some).
She wanted $$ up front but my friend told me about this list of rules he read somewhere and one of them was never pay before play or something like that. He said he held firm and really was ready to take her back. Ever started up the car and was rolling. When she relented and got down to business. Sounds like they never really discussed the actual amount and he gave her 0. 2 + 0. 05 afterwards for making sure everything was nice and tidy. She counted and said thanks. No grumbling, no whining about tip/more/upsell/etc. Just good attitude.
All an all, it sounds like a good deal and he told me he'the look for her again. She seemed like a good FS candidate and implied there might be a full international menu for the right investment. He told me that it was probably an a$$ worth the air fare for a ride. I guess she mentioned that she only comes out once in a while (this was first time this week) and hangs out in the early hours before OTR really wakes up "and gets weird".
After I got off the phone I thought. Why does he get all the fun and why does he call me up at 6:45 to tell me about it. Sheesh. What a jerk.
Have a good day.
Dz
This weekend has been hot weather wise but not much happening but the usual. Saw very few SW's out late Friday and Saturday night. Most the usual girls.
I did see LE hassle a Tranny on the corner of Elm and McMicken. A really tall black tranny with muscles like a body builder. Come to think of it all the Trannies are black. What was interesting about LE giving this tranny a hard time was the LE was female in a regular Cincy patrol car. Matter of fact there were two females LE in the car. I couldn't hang out at the corner for the duration but it was about time LE get on them. So that was something new in OTR.
I have a pic of either a decoy or just a badly dressed tranny. Anyone see this before. He was waving at cars. Perrty ugly for a tranny.
Also saw two new WSW at the east end of McMicken at the corner store. One of them waved at me but I couldn't stop yet. What I saw was nice. When I drove around one was gone and the other wasn't leaving her spot. I think the other girl was inside the shop or something. They look good guys. I got a pic of the one below.
Also I've checked the Cincy Dept of corrections to see who has been busted during the last 2 weeks. I've posted their pic as well. It'll be awhile before these girls will be back out guys. Just wanted to inform so you'll know who isn't around any more.
Finally a couple of pics of sheriff's guys doing their thing. Especially the pic showing a sheriff car at the church parking lot on McMicken. When a car is there I leave OTR for awhile. I know he is watching every car to see who is driving by. Watch out guys in the "Cincinnati Enquirer" they'll be around for the rest of the year till they get more $$ to keep them around OTR or maybe not. It's always about money in OTR.
Be safe out there.
Harpo2U
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove the photos or persons who were arrested from the report.
Now, I want to say this carefully so no one gets the wrong idea here, but if you think about it, posting the photos of people who have been arrested is somewhat heartless and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people. Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names and/or photographs. Thanks!
Bigballanati
08-15-07, 12:56
Well, I've lurked here for a bit, but had to post after seeing Sherri out today.. Wow.. The pictures don't do her justice - at least from curb appeal. Mr. Vortex was peeking around the corner, so I couldn't get any closer to confirm. Anyone have any good reviews of her?
I drove thru OTR after midnight last night and it was packed with LE. I wouldn't go near that place right now at night.
Thursday night about 9pm in OTR, Vortex was in full force. Every street had LE regulars and Sheriffs cars cracking down on the dope boys on the major corners. Race and Findlay corner, Vine and McMicken corner, Elm and Findlay and so on.
Once I saw a Sheriff's car pulled into the church parking lot on McMicken St. several LE cars were driving not far behind coming into the area. I counted about 12 LE cars in the OTR area in minutes after that.
Every where I drove a couple of LE cars were pulling up where there were any dudes were hanging out. It got very close for me that a couple of times I really thought LE were going to pull me over. At Race and Findley two Le cars pulled up on my passenger side and behind me but they were targeting the guys on the corner. People in the area had a surprised look on their faces. The SW's around that corner were suddenly walking away. It all happen real fast. from what I've heard Vortex was busy all night.
Then on Vine and McMicken corner a LE car pulled up on the sidewalk next to me and 2 cops got out to search a guy standing at the bus stop next to the fire station. It was the same on Liberty and Vine area.
Too Damn Hot for me so I left the area. Just before all the action from LE there were quite of few SW's out at the usual spots.
I have some good info for senior members and regulars with contributing posts on this board. PM me for info about new areas for SW's.
Watch out and be careful
Harpo2U
Ima Ezwriter
08-18-07, 07:42
I usually play in Hamilton, but after about 45 minutes of seeing nothing but LE and two older, worn out wsw, I decided to explore other areas. I started in LPH and picked up a young girl that looked good until she got in the car. Reeked of smoke and had rotten teeth. She wanted to go to her place which always scares me. When we got there, an old geezer opened the door. I listened to my instincts and left. From there I drove around OTR. I haven't seen that much inaction since the dead of winter, and I also saw several LE cruisers.
Left OTR and traveled south to Covington. I'd read that Madison and Scott streets occassionally produce some action. Not for me. I stopped in at Club Venus. Nice enough place, but wanted $38 to buy the girl a drink. I said no, considered a lap dance, but decided to split. Too much money for too little action--at least for me.
Returned to OTR and spotted a couple sw, one black, one white. Picked up Martha, a wsw. Young girl, nice face and body, good attitiude. We had a good time and I left with digits. Don't know if they work yet, and I didn't ask if she cared if I shared, so I won't give them out for now. OTR usually provides some entertainment but occassionally I have to leave and come back at a later time. Saw a few LE cars and also noticed a helicopter overhead.
It's dangerous right now, so be careful. Big brother is watching.
Here are the latest group of SW's that has been round up by Vortex during the last week and now living in lockup. After collecting this group of pics, I went DAMN!!! Are there any decent looking SW's out there anymore. Yeah a couple here aren't too bad but nothing to really talk about. Compared to other cities and seeing pics posted in other cities, I ask myself, "Does Cincinnati has the worst looking SW's as a whole?"
I really hope I'm wrong but for quite awhile I seen too many that look like the girls below. There are a few good ones around but not like the pics I see from Los Angeles, Orlando, Philadelphia and did you see the latest from Baltimore!
Well, Stephanie was pickup by LE in the beginning of August and will be out by the end of September. She was decent and better that most others. Here are a few pics I have of her.
Also I have some info from a new girl I've met in LPH. Can't give her name out now but she is a very part-timer but decent looking long hair blonde. Not on drugs and a good provider and keeper.
She knows all the girls in LPH that work the streets. She tells me Sherry and a Stacy are ripping guys off. So be careful with them. It's amazing that everyone in LPH knows what's going on and how word spread.
There are pics of Sherry and Stacy in the general reports.Watch youself and be careful,
Harpo2U
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove the photos or persons who were arrested from the report.
Now, I want to say this carefully so no one gets the wrong idea here, but if you think about it, posting the photos of people who have been arrested is somewhat heartless and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people. Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names and/or photographs. Thanks!
Mr Boombastic
08-21-07, 04:48
. Man the action was firday and it was almost like old times. !
. I got a chance to go out at mid afternoon and I hit the gold. I was really head to findlay mrkt. And they were out. I guess with the heat down and vortex hitting Thursday.
I got my veggies and started to play. I met someone knew for me, maybe old for others, and she said her name was something, "flake". She was a WSW, and young too. It was all good and we talked about who was out that day who was still in jail. Kiwi is still in jail, but poachtas is out but not about. Yet!
We agreed on 25, but she asked for 40 at first. Naw budda, naw! She was very cooperative, and great attitude. She even gave me the 411 on some other SW's I didn't know about.
While we were heading to a spot, I saw one of my long tme old favorites back on the track. She is a BSW, and a thick girl. She could be readily found a few years ago, but dropped off my radar. Even people who knew her had not seen her. I forgot her name, but she is worth the money, and most cooperative. She use to charge 25-30, so I hope much ain't changed. She still looked the same/ I saw her crossing central pkwy, at findlay. Hope this was not a one day thing. I have seen that more often than I would like.
We did the deed and I took her back. I ended up seeing her about 5 times that day all over everywhere. We waved at each other, and that was it. I had plans to get with her again, fore I left for home but thing got better.
I was over a friends house, and while leaving I saw a girl miss the #21 bus so I offered to drive her down to it, till she said she just lived just over the hopple st. Area. So I gave er a ride home. This was about 2 hour after I got wih the first SW. We talked for a bit and she said ahe had seen me at my friends place. Again that makes me nerve a little, but this time I had seen her getting on the bus. I gave her the ride to her place, and she offered to give me gas money, of 3 buck and I said keep it. Then out of the blue she asked if I'the like to come up to her place for a while. She was a very decent young girl, attractive and well build, so why not. Glad I did. She had asked about getting me a beer at least for the ride, and I told her I had some in the car. It was about 90minutes warm, but still cold enough. I think that was the key somehow, and it opened the door. It is risky to do so, for you never know if she is a crazy or has a boyfriend, but I took it.
We were at it from about 30 minutes upon arrival soon after her shower. We played around about two hours, with some beer drinking and talking in between. She never said a word about money, and for some reason I didn't ask. I was worried this might really be a freebie and maybe a regular thing. Well nothin is for free. Once I told her I had to leave, I had been there to me long enough, she asked if I could give her a bucks for cigs. I had already placed money in my secret pocket, and I pulled a 20 out and gave it to her. The reaction from her was like I gave her a 50 or more. I was quite shocked.
She asked when I could come back again and I just said soon. Very soon! We hugged and I parted!
I got back to otr/we, to meet up at my friends place, and as I was getting close I saw an older SW, dressed very nice, and sexz. I would not have noticed her, but a cop had stopped to hassle her, and I look over. I circled and we knew each other. She was the WSW who had approached me, a few weeks back and told me she would be right back in 20-30 minutes, but never came back. I was a little upset about that, because that night there were very few SW's to be found. I told her to walk down from the spot at mcmik and elm, and meet me at centralpkwy & ravine. She arrived and I was waiting in the spot. I hate to pick up SW at those hot spots. She remembered not coming back, and apologized. She is an older SW, but worth the money to me, very cooperative, and very skilled. I'the take her over a lot of younger SW out there right now and in the past. She is asking 50fs, but settled on 30. It is the same old routine. As we were drive to a spot, my friend drove pass, and I told him to meet me back at his place in about 40 minutes. He told me he was picking up a girl for us to do, because she needed the extra money. No time to really talk, so I told him once I was finished I'the be there. I did not down the SW off, because sometimes these girlz don't always show up. Rather unreliable! So after I did the older SW I went back to he place, and amaingly the girl was there with a friend. They got pretty damn high first. I passed on that, but drank the beers. It cost me 50, for her, with 25 in stripper tips, and I only paid it because this girl was nice, and I mean that. She could be a stripper at anyones club just on looks alone. Both the girlz were very nice. Ns out they live in westwood together, and this is how they make their extra money, but they were very, very new at it. They did not want to work the streets and most of the bar are closed, crowded, too much competition, or just too dangerous to have this at their place, until they really can trust the men. I told her to keep home a secret, and do everything away from home. Far away!
That was the best day I have had to date, since the old days of otr/we, and the whole SW scene. Even Saturday was good but I went to a lock down closed door strip party in near wyoming, at this guys house. It was "wild" and the girl did the men after the party for 75-100 fs a pop.
I can remember before Uncle Simon broke it up, there use to be a couple of back alley brothels before you get to the UC School of Applied Science. There was also several along that alley off of e. Clifton. These place were working like a well run business. And at the time 10-15 was the going rate so you know that was long ago. Before crack destroyed the SW trade. Then there were a lot of very sexz, attractive women of all ages, black & white. And vine street was loaded along with walnut, with SW. Most of the SW working the street were not people who lived in the area. And people would tell the SW's not to walk in front of their homes, and too take it to the proper area (s). Uncle simon changed everything, but then came crack! Things will never ever be that way again. Not here!
So if you have a good day, enjoy it for it is not something that comes often
Boombastic
SaltyBalls
08-21-07, 07:40
Here are the latest group of SW's that has been round up by Vortex during the last week and now living in lockup. After collecting this group of pics, I went DAMN!!! Are there any decent looking SW's out there anymore. Yeah a couple here aren't too bad but nothing to really talk about. Compared to other cities and seeing pics posted in other cities, I ask myself, "Does Cincinnati has the worst looking SW's as a whole?"
I really hope I'm wrong but for quite awhile I seen too many that look like the girls below. There are a few good ones around but not like the pics I see from Los Angeles, Orlando, Philadelphia and did you see the latest from Baltimore!
Well, Stephanie was pickup by LE in the beginning of August and will be out by the end of September. She was decent and better that most others. Here are a few pics I have of her.
Also I have some info from a new girl I've met in LPH. Can't give her name out now but she is a very part-timer but decent looking long hair blonde. Not on drugs and a good provider and keeper.
She knows all the girls in LPH that work the streets. She tells me Sherry and a Stacy are ripping guys off. So be careful with them. It's amazing that everyone in LPH knows what's going on and how word spread.
There are pics of Sherry and Stacy in the general reports.Watch youself and be careful
Harpo2UCharleston, SC has your girls beat for the ugliest,#1, looking at the jaw lines, these girls have teeth # 2 they probably don't smell as bad as our hoes, there is no worse odor that an unshowered sw that services 10-15 men a day in 120 degree heat. that southern bacteria snatch is legendary!
Mister Quick
08-21-07, 10:14
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Here are the latest group of SW's that has been round up by Vortex during the last week and now living in lockup. After collecting this group of pics, I went DAMN!!! Are there any decent looking SW's out there anymore. Yeah a couple here aren't too bad but nothing to really talk about. Compared to other cities and seeing pics posted in other cities, I ask myself, "Does Cincinnati has the worst looking SW's as a whole?" ...
Harpo2U
Clicked on the link for Cincinatti by mistake decidedto read it anyways. You dont have the worst looking SW.
IMHO cedar Rapids has the worst:
http://usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=551982&postcount=43
Is one of their better ones.
Here is a typical batch of them from Peoria. Not the worst of the ones in town, this group actually has an OK looking one. They have ones there that are guys.
A friend of mine said he thought the pic of "Vernonica" looked a lot like someone he knew as Kelly? (As is often the case, looking quite a bit better in person than as a mugshot.) Might this be possible?
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44205
He said she had treated him very nicely, almost GFE, on several occasions, and that he was sorry to see this turn of events. But then, he also said his memory gets very foggy at times... So who knows who??? Can one tell when she might be out again?
He is (and I am) impressed with the skill you have at pulling up pix of OTR girls from the court URL. We wonder how you do it without knowing the full names of the girls.
Thanks again for your posts rich in information. Be careful not to leave footsteps where LE might follow. BTW, OTR has been pretty barren the last time or two that I have passed through. And yes, LE is OFTEN parked in the lot near the church on McMicken. And yes, as in a previous post, they probably make note of the cars passing by, and yours better not pass by two or more times.
Finally: with the increased heat, try to get digits for dependable providers and meet them outside of the HOT zone. And if you DO pick up a provider in the zone, get the hell out of there immediately.
Giani
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Here are the latest group of SW's that has been round up by Vortex during the last week and now living in lockup. After collecting this group of pics, I went DAMN!!! Are there any decent looking SW's out there anymore. Yeah a couple here aren't too bad but nothing to really talk about. Compared to other cities and seeing pics posted in other cities, I ask myself, "Does Cincinnati has the worst looking SW's as a whole?"
I really hope I'm wrong but for quite awhile I seen too many that look like the girls below. There are a few good ones around but not like the pics I see from Los Angeles, Orlando, Philadelphia and did you see the latest from Baltimore!
Well, Stephanie was pickup by LE in the beginning of August and will be out by the end of September. She was decent and better that most others. Here are a few pics I have of her.
Also I have some info from a new girl I've met in LPH. Can't give her name out now but she is a very part-timer but decent looking long hair blonde. Not on drugs and a good provider and keeper.
She knows all the girls in LPH that work the streets. She tells me Sherry and a Stacy are ripping guys off. So be careful with them. It's amazing that everyone in LPH knows what's going on and how word spread.
There are pics of Sherry and Stacy in the general reports.Watch youself and be careful
Harpo2U
I got a call from a guy that I happen to know - calls me sometimes when he sees things going on while he's out driving around town. Called around 2:45 from OTR (at least it wasn't 6:30am like last time). Apparently he had some time today to criuse through there and it sounds like LE was out in force.
On a swing down Central Parkway, a couple Sheriff's cruisers had a poor monger and his provider pulled over. He said it wasn't a pretty sight. Cops were tossing the guy's car. Monger was standin' there, just staring down counting his shoelaces. The provider, a blonde WSW with a big ole' rack who was (IMHO) a little hefty by most standards was standin' there chewin' gum and rollin' her right nip between her thumb and forefinger like some girls twirl their hair when they're nervous. (And yes, he said both her headlights were definately "on").
He said, if not for the circumstances, it would have been hilarious to see these four cops standing around watching her play with herself on the sidewalk. Not sure where this will end up for either of them but it definately didn't look good. Nobody was going to sweet talk their way outta this one.
When I asked about other LE, he mentioned the place was crawling with city and county guys. He said several of the regulars that he saw while driving up Elm and down McM would just give him the look, shake their head a little and look away. He speculated that the heavy LE might have something to do with some shooting at 15th and Walnut last night but, no matter the cause, the effect was that he got outta there pronto after seeing the side show on Central.
Morale of the story - know your hunting ground, know the signals, know when to hunt and know when to call it a day. Today was definately too "hot" in OTR and the big head should have overrulled any decisions from the little head.
Have a great day.
Dz
Bigballanati
08-22-07, 12:54
Just as a warning to you guys, LPH is basically off the hook with the Vortex crew. I happened through there last night and saw 4 cruisers on 8th & State. Thursday night I saw 6 pulling over a guy on Depot. It's way too hot to even think about right now, so keep the guard up extra extra high.
Mr Boombastic
08-23-07, 15:00
It was the same all over otr/we!
For some reason most of it was cincinnati police more than the sheriffs dept. I saw a very heavy presence of bicycle cops and motorcycle cops, but the cruiser were there bigtime too. I thought it had to be task force Wednesday. Normally they do this on tues. & thurs.
I think they are trying to over crowd the jail, because they make lose the federal prisoners, to make room for the regulars and locals. Uncle simon is pissed off about that. He want those fed prisoners more than the locals.
Bigballanati. Your observation on lph is right on the money. I saw cruiser ride three at a time down race, vine, elm, and mcmik. So if you saw one cruiser, and thought it was safe, right behind him 2-3 minutes later was two more.
I really only saw 2 SW out in the heat. I picked up one. I saw her last Friday, but I dumped her, because of course she had "wayyyyyyy too much atitude". She needed money badly, but she gave me the impression she was a grab, snatch, and run person. So she talked herself out of the money and chance. She was pissed, but I refused. She even offered me a bargain price at 10bj. To good to be true, but I now know she is safe. I will try to catch her again next week, or next time.
It will be the sheriffs department to show off there task force within the next few days, possibly "today".
So heed the warning and let the SW come to you if you can. And pay close attiention to their eyes to see if they are trying to warn you off. They don't want you busted either, for you are their money.
By the way. Make certain you have your drivers license on you. Double check. I saw several young men have there cars impounded, but they got caught without a simple drivers license, they had and forgot.
Give them as little reason possible to pull you over!
Boombastic
Just as a warning to you guys, LPH is basically off the hook with the Vortex crew. I happened through there last night and saw 4 cruisers on 8th & State. Thursday night I saw 6 pulling over a guy on Depot. It's way too hot to even think about right now, so keep the guard up extra extra high.
Really busy today but not with SWs.
9 different LE cars working, 4-5 with lights flashing and that doesn't count the 2-3 helping out with the road resurfacing traffic work. Clearly time to just keep movin' thru.
Well the Vortex clean up OTR this week. Friday night was dead except for a few Trannies. Just like last thursday night all LE hit the streets.
So I did some checking on the recent arrest for this week. A lot of people mostly guys were picked up from trafficking in drugs/sales, drug abuse. possesion of cocaine and drug paraphenalia and so on. Vortex is doing a supper sweep every week on anything they can find and nail you with in OTR.
I've noticed a new hang out for the Sheriff's guys. They like to park and watch at the corner of Elm and Liberty where a fast food restaurent use to be. With the church parking lot at McMicken on the north end and now at the south end at Liberty/Elm.
Saw three bust, one was on Elm and Henry. LE had a guy in a dark SUV standing on the sidewalk while going through his car.
Here are the lastest SW's now in lockup. A lot of girls have been arrested and the pickin are less and less. Not a good sign for mongering.
Any good news anybody;
HarpoU2
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove the photos or persons who were arrested from the report.
Now, I want to say this carefully so no one gets the wrong idea here, but if you think about it, posting the photos of people who have been arrested is somewhat heartless and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people. Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names and/or photographs. Thanks!
Where is the least expectant place I can find a SW?
I didn't expect to find a girl like this in OTR this Sunday night. After LE been going full attack sweeping through OTR this pass week, I didn't think much was left but a few usual girls that nobody really care to pickup. I was going around the usual spots see what's left and get the best there was avalible.
Then I saw this girl walking and giving me the eye. I did a double take.
I don't want to give too much detail except that, Terri, (not her real name but street name) doesn't come to OTR very much but on rare occasions. She was with a friend and they both were asking for $1.00 but I've talked her down to .40 and did give her a tip afterwards. She was sweet. Oh, the pics didn't cost me anything.
She a former dancer and as you can see and still has a great body. Gave me some nice kisses. Let me taste that sweet P*ssy and small but nice nipples that got hard when licked. Sweet.
We did FS and gave me some BBBJ. She is really friendly and looks like a 18 yo but she is older and has a kid.
When we did MISH she really moaned and was saying "F*uck Me" over and over which was a nice touch. Likes to be nice and clean when having sex. My kind of girl.
Sorry but no digits but she is able to contact me and we'll see. I hope to see her again and she told me she wants to see me again. So we'll see what happens.
I know more about her like her real name and after our first time together she open up about her situation and all. Very friendly. Not like the usual hard ass girls you have to deal with in OTR. Nice for a change.
Things may be turning around when you least expect it. I got lucky after a dry spell and dodging LE the pass two weeks.
She may not be back out for awhile guys but you may see her soon.
P.S. I've got some a new connection (digits possibly) of a girl in LPH but for the select few. And how to hookup and avoid LE in the LPH area.
I'll say this again, info for Senior members and the regulars who had contributed to this board.
Thats One You Can Lock In The Basement & Just Go Down There Whenever You Want To & Nail It. Nice Fuckin Pics.damn That "monkey" Is Fat.
Harpo--no argument that you scored big time with Ms "Tightbody!" Wow. Clearly she is a bit of a newbie to OTR! If you ever DO get her digits, don't mention it on this board, or your PM mailbox will be immediately filled up!!! Wait--no, I mean... let us know when you get digits... ;-)
Kissing AND DATY! Rare indeed. And hey--moaning by an excellent actress is often as good as the real thing. Careful, you will make us jealous... Too late. Thanks for the drool-inspiring pix.
I happened to be in OTR fairly early on Sunday AM, and saw at least four prospects (couldn't stop...) One on the corner of Elm and Mc pleaded for me to stop--and she actually didn't look THAT bad. I saw only a single LE floating around.
One more time. If you can get digits, use those and meet outside the hot zone. Be cautious about Harpo's solution of giving your digits to her and having her get ahold of you. That can become sour and difficult to call off.
Giani
Ok dude - that last post of yours rates top class points and goes to show that persistance does pay off. You da man on this one.
Have a great day.
Dz
Giani's comment about not mentioning something on this board reminded me of the drama going on over the Indianapolis general discussion thread.
In a nutshell, somebody picked up a provider and, in the course of conversation, told her that she's the topic of conversation on this board (including some pretty good pics). Pics were posted by a very senior, long time monger and member. Apparently she wasn't aware of it and she's smokin' hot about it.
Long time monger goes out trying to scarf up some action and it seems that he can't get a pickup for anything because "what's-her-name" has been working the street about this board and his participation. Now long time monger, who has always provided good street information on the board and via PM, is pissed at the world and says he's done sharing. Given the quality of his information on the Indy scene, that's a loss if he sticks with it.
I don't know if he was right or wrong in posting the pics, that's a different conversation. My point is that no good can come from telling a SW about what gets talked here.
Just my 2 cents. Have a great day.
Dz
Wow it’s been a 2-3 years since I saw this WSW. I think she went by the name of Bobbie or BB in the Dayton area. She was pretty cracked out at the time, but is looking really good now.
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I didn't expect to find a girl like this in OTR this Sunday night. After LE been going full attack sweeping through OTR this pass week, I didn't think much was left but a few usual girls that nobody really care to pickup. I was going around the usual spots see what's left and get the best there was avalible.
Then I saw this girl walking and giving me the eye. I did a double take.
I don't want to give too much detail except that, Terri, (not her real name but street name) doesn't come to OTR very much but on rare occasions. She was with a friend and they both were asking for $1.00 but I've talked her down to .40 and did give her a tip afterwards. She was sweet. Oh, the pics didn't cost me anything.
She a former dancer and as you can see and still has a great body. Gave me some nice kisses. Let me taste that sweet P*ssy and small but nice nipples that got hard when licked. Sweet.
We did FS and gave me some BBBJ. She is really friendly and looks like a 18 yo but she is older and has a kid.
When we did MISH she really moaned and was saying "F*uck Me" over and over which was a nice touch. Likes to be nice and clean when having sex. My kind of girl.
Sorry but no digits but she is able to contact me and we'll see. I hope to see her again and she told me she wants to see me again. So we'll see what happens.
I know more about her like her real name and after our first time together she open up about her situation and all. Very friendly. Not like the usual hard ass girls you have to deal with in OTR. Nice for a change.
Things may be turning around when you least expect it. I got lucky after a dry spell and dodging LE the pass two weeks.
She may not be back out for awhile guys but you may see her soon.
P.S. I've got some a new connection (digits possibly) of a girl in LPH but for the select few. And how to hookup and avoid LE in the LPH area.
I'll say this again, info for Senior members and the regulars who had contributed to this board.
Because we all love these pix which are posted, we often overlook the difficulty which they might cause, first to the SW, then to the poster.... I have two points (at least)...
1) First, always ASK permission to take pix, and, because they usually are conscious enough to say, "No face," agree and abide. (Mainly in LA and Philly do providers seem to be OK with full face). You can easily blur the face in the post. Also, she deserves a tip for pix. I offer 0.1 more.
2) Second, DO NOT mention that you saw her pix on the web, no matter what (DUH)! I mean, what does that get you? She is now mad, both at you and at the poster. I got some complaints from a very satisfactory provider about someone else who saw my pix of her, even with face blurred, because he said he could see who she was in my pix of her on the web (You may want to blur out the tats...) I can fully understand a provider being pissed (or beyond) to find that their picture has been posted on a forum such as this... Maybe in LA, there is no such thing as bad publicity. But NOT here in the provinces...
So--keep those pictures coming, but be considerate at both ends.
Giani
Giani's comment about not mentioning something on this board reminded me of the drama going on over the Indianapolis general discussion thread.
In a nutshell, somebody picked up a provider and, in the course of conversation, told her that she's the topic of conversation on this board (including some pretty good pics). Pics were posted by a very senior, long time monger and member. Apparently she wasn't aware of it and she's smokin' hot about it.
Long time monger goes out trying to scarf up some action and it seems that he can't get a pickup for anything because "what's-her-name" has been working the street about this board and his participation. Now long time monger, who has always provided good street information on the board and via PM, is pissed at the world and says he's done sharing. Given the quality of his information on the Indy scene, that's a loss if he sticks with it.
I don't know if he was right or wrong in posting the pics, that's a different conversation. My point is that no good can come from telling a SW about what gets talked here.
Just my 2 cents. Have a great day.
Dz
Hey fella's. Long time. No see?
King simon, and his cpd pawns are bringing up the temperature again. I saw a lot of bustin and hasslin along the mohawk area over the last three days. I even saw a few SW's I normally don't see in this area. They are being pushed from area to area.
It was one of the first times I have ever been able to here a pin drop, do to the lack of people on the streets.
The mohawk area was completely shut down and almost shut off. This was not task force, it was just the way it is for now. Most of the SW's are being escorted by someone to avoid the le hassle, but it also kept away their clients. Times had to be very slow because of it.
Even the hot areas were empty when I came through. At the time even the drug dealer were gone to. I did see several dealers being cuffed and taken away, several times during the last three days. With only a few dealers left the girls gather like bees to honey or flys to well you know!
If you have old digits try them. I was clearing my cell of useless numbers, but I always call them first before deleting, and I got lucky twice. Turns out that before a few ladies went to jail they gave their cells to someone who as it was rarely maintained minutes on it. This time I called and they told me where to find someone I had been looking for for a while. She is well off the stroll, with no immediate plans to get back to it. But she will still make a little side money to pat the bills. Etc. , etc.
The other number her sister is now trickin on the side, and keeps minutes on both cells, and one is her sister, which I call. I am suppose to meet up with sis, sometime this afternoon. She is going to give me the 411 on her sister, and let me hit it to. This shouldn't be for more than 30-35 with pix. You know how taken pix can go.
I did get answers to two other numbers, but they said no such person had that phone and they did not know who I was asking for. I even left a name to see if that got the message across, but "nothing" I guess through cell phones and numbers get around a lot more than I even knew.
Even the other areas of town and the other neighborhoods are empty, and dry of SW's.
I guess someone has to keep the jails full, "by any means necessary"!
Word
Hey guys here are the latest SW's pick-up by LE. Some look familiar and others don't. I don't think any of these girls had a choice about having a picture taken :D
Just a quick comment about the picture issue, don't F**KING tell the girls you seen their pictures! Asking to take a picture and she says yes for free or for money, the picture becomes your property.
The street is public property and you don't need to ask permission. That's all I have to say on that issue.
I do have an issue to bring up and thats our civil rights in dealing with LE if it comes up.
I don't want to get into the politics of the latest event about the resignation of Senator Larry Craig. Was he mongering or not may never be revealed but he got a typical brow beaten by undercover cop. The same thing could of happen to anyone of us in a situation where the undercover was a woman.
Old Larry didn't grope anyone, he didn't assault or had sex nor asked for sex yet LE scared him into pleading guilty on a disorderly conduct charge.
I heard the interrogation tapes and thought thats the same techniques cops use on catching mongers.
I know this issue came up before but wanted to direct all of you to an interesting site about protecting your rights.
Check out: http://iwantmylawyer.org
Learn your 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment rights. LE will do everything to find something either by intimidation and brow beat you in giving up your rights if they stop you like they do to people on OTR.
LE job is to find, arrest and prosecute and they know all the tricks to fool you into giving up your rights if they stop you.
Two weeks ago when I was in OTR and watched Voetex go into full swing. I saw cops run up to guys on the street and search them and the guys just complied with what ever they were told to do. They should of asked "Am I under arrest and if not let me go."
Knowledge is power so learn what your rights are.
The strippers in Columbus and other cities in Ohio are trying to fight for their rights and not let some small group of people decide for them about the stupid 6 feet distance rule! Hope they can win.
Know and Fight for your rights guys.
P.S. I also included a couple of pics of two SW's recently seen. I'll try to get better looking girls but this is what it is.
Harpo2U
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EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove the photos or persons who were arrested from the report.
Now, I want to say this carefully so no one gets the wrong idea here, but if you think about it, posting the photos of people who have been arrested is somewhat heartless and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people. Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names and/or photographs. Thanks!
I do have an issue to bring up and thats our civil rights in dealing with LE if it comes up.
I don't want to get into the politics of the latest event about the resignation of Senator Larry Craig. Was he mongering or not may never be revealed but he got a typical brow beaten by undercover cop. The same thing could of happen to anyone of us in a situation where the undercover was a woman.
Old Larry didn't grope anyone, he didn't assault or had sex nor asked for sex yet LE scared him into pleading guilty on a disorderly conduct charge.
I heard the interrogation tapes and thought thats the same techniques cops use on catching mongers.
I know this issue came up before but wanted to direct all of you to an interesting site about protecting your rights.
Check out: http://iwantmylawyer.org
Learn your 4th, 5th and 6th Amendment rights. LE will do everything to find something either by intimidation and brow beat you in giving up your rights if they stop you like they do to people on OTR.
LE job is to find, arrest and prosecute and they know all the tricks to fool you into giving up your rights if they stop you.
Two weeks ago when I was in OTR and watched Voetex go into full swing. I saw cops run up to guys on the street and search them and the guys just complied with what ever they were told to do. They should of asked "Am I under arrest and if not let me go."
Knowledge is power so learn what your rights are.
Harpo2U
IMO, here is the most important part of that website, especially in view of what I read here regarding how LEOs act during a Vortex sweep there. (Thank God they aren't that intense here in Indy. We generally just get stings, and saturation patrols, no real "sweeps" to speak of.)
The video on this page is very well done, and has information in it that we all should know, and be ready to implement if needed.
http://iwantmylawyer.org/busted.html
Wallie
"Life on the street" is a little more challenging, but not impossible. More important than ever to be aware of your surroundings, and, as you always cautioned, not to get caught in a dead end situation. Mohawk was always an iffy situation, I nearly got nabbed there by a surveillance van picking up Sauna years ago.
You probably won't recognize the current crop of SWs--those that we knew a while back have moved on--hopefully to good lives.
Giani
A friend of mine said he had a very pleasant visit with M******e recently (On a Tuesday). She cautioned that the Vortex Task Force is out IN FORCE, on Tuesday and Thursdays. She urged that extreme caution should be exerted on those days. My friend said that in a brief 2 minute drive through OTR, he saw two LE cruisers who had pulled over different cars with black dudes, hands on the roof..., trunk being opened for inspection. Whew, glad it wasn't me traveling though those hot waters.
My friend relies on contacting the provider by phone, and meeting her at a spot outside of the OTR hot region, and immediately goes to an alternative cooler location.
Madlion 2007
09-04-07, 17:30
Hey I Need Some Info On A Gurl From Ur Area>cinn..i'm From Orlando,fla..she An Ex/bengal Cheerleader>thats What She Said But She Is Getting Alot Of Heat Here In The Craigslist>therapeutic>under Girlnextdoor Review...anbody Knows Whats Up With Her Is She Legit.
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Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your reports, but...
Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!
Jackson
G,
A guy I know spent some time yesterday runnin' through OTR early evening. Not a lot of SW action although he said he thought he saw Harpo's beauty from a couple days ago headin' up McM near Vine. By the time he got back to her area she had disappeared.
He also mentioned the surprising absence of LE everywhere. Not a single LE-mobile, not a bike, not a footman...nada. Since you heard that Tuesday is a V-Day, it makes me think there's a lot of undercover car action going on. No data on that but it's the only thing I can think of that explains the complete, total absence of LE anywhere in OTR. Hell, there's almost always a guy sitting somehwere eatin' a donut - but not yesterday.
My friend's final word of advice before he left last night - know the fastest way out of OTR from every single corner in the area. Use it ASAP when you find company, make some turns when you're out and watch the rear view mirror. Not news to regulars but it never hurts to keep saying it.
Have a great day.
Dz
I knew after the Labor day weekend operation Vortex will be back in full force beginning on tuesday. So I decided to look around just before noon on saturday. Night time there are too many LE cruising around and too few pickings for the last week. Yes I'm still looking out for that blonde beauty.
Anyway I found Beth right away on McMicken and Main. A quick and swift hookup and we were out of OTR in 2 min. There are no LE lurking around in most cases before noon on the weekends.
Beth was a bit hung-over as you can see in the pic below. However, she was able to function and surprisingly friendly and agreeable. So we stopped at a McDonalds and got her some food so she'll feel better. That did helped and she got sweeter.
It was her idea to shower together! Alright!! My kind of girl. We were showering for about 20 min. washing and rubbing each other. Really nice and sensual like. There's nothin' like a fresh clean p*ssy for lunch.
Then we got in bed and she felt a bit sleepy so we rested and talked. She was telling how all the girls are really paranoid about all the LE activity in OTR. I asked her about other SW's what has happen to them and that kind of stuff. There was one SW that I didn't know but saw her a few times. Beth told me she was new and probably didn't work right away when I saw her. Also, Beth, told me she (this girl I've seen) was under 18 yo. Watch out guys.
After all the talk, Beth was ready for FS and we got it on and had a good time guys. She is nice guys.
Lunch = .05
Shower/FS = .40
Pictures = no charge
Service = 9 (on a 1-10 scale)
Guys with the situation going on in OTR try other areas for a change and don't spend too much time driving around the area.
Be safe and have fun
Harpo2U
Mr Boombastic
09-06-07, 01:22
Hey harpo,
The girl in your le pickup list in the lower left hand corner is inga. Man she use to be one of the otr/we SW foxes, and everyone was looking to pick her up. But for the last two or more years, she has gone so far down hill that she is at a point of no return. That is a serious shame!
It was only a matter of time before she was going to get caught. Man inga use to dress like the girls at hunts point on hbo in her hey days! She use to wear throngs before throngs were in style. Man did she have a body then. And if you wanted any kind of girl to do anything, just tell inga, give her 10 bucks and within 30 minutes she could get her. I have even had inga do strip lock down parties with 3-4 of her girls. Once she got too much money she got too much drugs, and the end was near. There was no one to take her place, because inga got her girls paid.
Then the drugs kicked in and she start ripping off her girls, the sexy dressing stopped, she ended up in the hospital for a long while, and lost all her teeth to something, and now she is just. Well you know!
The other girl in your list I think in the upper right habd corner looks like white girl, as they call her. She is a rather big thick WSW, and the last time I saw her she was into a lot of fighting with the other SW's in the liberty, walnut areas. She had a black eye, and a very bad attitude about everything.
I dumped her out after a 15 minute ride with 5 bucks in her handjust to get her peacifully out of my car, and a glad to get rid of her feeling.
The rest are just too damn fugly to even think about picking up.
Bastic
A friend of mine says that the most famous Inga in OTR is not in the lineup Harpo posted. The lower left image is a (fugly) white girl--no way brown-skinned, attractive Inga:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44724
Please go to the image that you are talking about, copy the URL, and post it for us so we know who you are talking about.
It IS true that Inga is of mythical proportions in OTR. My friend said she would be up for anything, once jumping on the bed, stripping off her shorts and pleading for my friend to "Eat me out, PLEASE eat me out!" Yes--she was seriously dependent on crack, and could suddenly turn super paranoid, halting all activities. He says she was extremely adept at getting her way: "Please take me to get some butter..." And buttered up, he says she was a sex machine (unless she turned paranoid).
BTW, my friend says all LE in OTR know her, and will pull you over if they ever see her in your car!!! Again--as we have repeated endlessly, get the hell out of OTR once you have found a friend.
Giani
Hey harpo,
The girl in your le pickup list in the lower left hand corner is inga. Man she use to be one of the otr/we SW foxes, and everyone was looking to pick her up. But for the last two or more years, she has gone so far down hill that she is at a point of no return. That is a serious shame!
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Boomer: Did you mean that Inga is the lower CENTER (you said lower LEFT) image? The lower center image is LABELED "Inga":
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44723
My friend says he can't tell for sure from that image, but it may well be Inga. That Inga's image is, at least, brown-skinned... Obviously not so attractive in this mug shot, either because of the circumstances, and/or the toll the street has taken.
Second point, BTW, Rumor on the street is that Veronica:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44205
is HIV positive, and busted for soliciting with that condition. If you have definitive info on this, post it for the benefit of the boardsters. My friend says she was a regular fixture for a while, and remembers her being quite congenial... Any regular cruiser of OTR probably recognizes her. Hoboy... Remember to cover up, especially always for FS. We still cross our fingers that BBBJ is MUCH less risky...
Thanks to Harpo for posting these images.
Giani
Mr Boombastic
09-07-07, 20:39
If I pointed out the wrong SW/Girl then let me straighten that out. For those who don't know, I am saying of the picture of the black girl labled Inga.
She is a trip NOW, and I have known Inga for over ten years now, maybe a few years longer.
I knew her in her God Days. When she was one of the Sexziest SW in the area, Black or White. She always dressed like she was going out to a Club, and ALMOST ALWAYS wore a Dress/Shirt, w/No Panties, and High Heels. There was No one in the area who did NOT know INGA or had been with her.
A Lot of the Cops took their turns with Inga too, and she could really name some names, if she were still in her right mind. But Inga has NOT told to date, when she easily could. The Cops know her in more than just an Arresting Way.
Today, Inga, is too cracked out, and the stories of her BOLDNESS are often true. Inga has always been Bi, that is how she got so many of the working Part timers under her wing. I met a lot of regulars through INGA.
I had to let Inga go on her way, when she started arguing with me if I did not pick her up, and start yelling and trying to open my car door, knocking hard on the window at the Stop lights. She almost got me pulled over several times. Once she even told the Cops I took her money, but he knew better. This happened at the light at Vine and McMic. At that point she was GONE!
She was Totally Cracked out, and had LOST her Looks, Appeal, Charm, and Build.
Recently Once at the same corner she looked at me said "HELLO" and that she was trying to get back to the way she use to be, as I sat at the light.
She was very pleasant about it, and knew not to walk up to the car, or yell out. I smiled and drove out. I still avoid contact with her, and if anyone else wants her, then to each his own. For you BJ'ers Lovers, she is missing her upper teeth. Hint, Hint!
Personally I Still Feel Kinda SoRRy for Her. SW can't dress and act that way anymore around here, unless she is working the Clubs and Bars. You won't get them for 30 dollars. Try 100 to start with! More for the High End older generation Clubs/Bars.
The Bars in OTR/WE/LPH/S. Fairmt you can still get a bargain at 50, but you have to look hard, for anything DECENT.
Now did that clean things up a bit. I am stll using Win98, and my computer will freeze up sometimes in the middle of a post, and I have to reboot. You know the deal!
Bastic
Not much to report guys. I haven't been in OTR since last saturday when I met Beth for an afternoon delight.
Tonight, friday was dead and LE was medium heavy patrolling the area. Saw a group of 5 cops on bikes at Walnut and McMicken. They were hassling all the folks sitting on the steps across the playground. Alot of people are getting arrested for any little.
Only spotted a few SW's but not anyone new or special. There is some activity in Covington off the usual streets.
Where are most of SW's going these days? I know some are in jail now. So here are the lasted unfortunate girls swept up this week. Some will be out of jail in a month or more.
If you guys see and talk to any girls still out there, try to tell them to change their habits on the streets so they don't get caught. They could make better $ if they hang out at fountain square or different places than the same spots in OTR. Just an ideal.
[Photos deleted by Admin]
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was edited to remove the photos or persons who were arrested from the report.
Now, I want to say this carefully so no one gets the wrong idea here, but if you think about it, posting the photos of people who have been arrested is somewhat heartless and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people. Since this website is all about assisting people in obtaining commercial sex services, we don't want to add to the problems of the unfortunate people who have been arrested by publishing their names and/or photographs. Thanks!
Hello,
I will be in Cincinnati for work on Mon and Tue next week.
I am just looking for a little help on where to go.
I am not looking for gentelmans clubs.
I just want a working mans strip bar.
A cold beer and something to watch.
I have attached a picture of a Sheriff's cruiser parked in the church parking lot on McMillian near Race, as well as a map showing the location. The importance of knowing this is that they are monitoring (recording?) cars which pass several times (as during cruising). I would not pass these guys more than twice, and not even twice if you have picked up a friend. Police recognize many SWs in OTR, and tho it is not technically illegal to give someone a ride, even the tiniest of infractions gives them an excuse to stop and hassle.
I heard if from a reputable source that "fun loving" Rachael, long time OTR SW is at least HIV positive, if not in full blown AIDS. Rumor is that she was busted for continuing soliciting even tho she was confirmed as HIV positive. Then her health took a serious turn for the worse in jail. I hope you all used protection with her as with ALL FS encounters with SWs...
Pan Head: Obviously, you are new to Cincinnati, and SW Ohio in general. SW Ohio (NOT Street-Walker Ohio!) may well be the epicenter of puritanism in the puritanical midwest. So-called "community values" groups have hijacked the political/"justice" system, and demand ever more outrageous suppression of free speach: "The only good sex is NO sex."
Perhaps other contributors to the board know of adult club opportunities, but... I gave up on them. (Formerly notably in Newport, KY (Brass Ass, etc), possibly a few in Covington?). Even Newport's clubs have been suppressed (other mongers: do you agree?)
I have seen billboards between Cincinnati and Columbus, and maybe Cincinnati and Dayton, which suggest "adult entertainment", but, based on my previous lame experience, I drive right on by. (Even in wide-open Georgia, I was VERY disappointed in interstate "adult clubs" with how little I got for so much...)
So--there is still inexpensive entertainment on the streets, but go with extreme caution, both with regards to LE and risks of SWs, their friends and their potential diseases. See many posts on this subject (how do you say it? "Read The Friendly Forum"? = RTFF...), including a monger's map.
Lotsa good local microbrewerys if you are willing to settle for a decent cold beer, followed by a cold shower.
Finally, long time posters wonder about virgin posters who only ask for information on the board... We hope to see future informative posts from you which might indicate that you valued that someone took the time to answer your post.
Giani
Hello,
I will be in Cincinnati for work on Mon and Tue next week.
I am just looking for a little help on where to go.
I am not looking for gentelmans clubs.
I just want a working mans strip bar.
A cold beer and something to watch.
Has anyone seen Tara she posts quite a few on backpage.
I found Beauty again and I'll talk about her later but first some other news I have to share.
1st there are some good working man's strip clubs in Dayton, Ohio. One good one in Lawrence Ind. I have not been to Deja Vu east of Cincy for over 7 years so I can't say about that place. If you live in Cincy you have to drive to another city like Dayton, Columbus, Indy and other major cities. It's too bad. At one time this was a great place for strip clubs during the hey days when Larry Flint ruled. Most of you guys never knew how wild and crazy the clubs were in the 70's and 80's.
Strip clubs in Ohio are under attack by the religious group based here in Cincinnati. They call themselves "Citizens for community Values" and they want all porn, Adult magazines, strips clubs and sexual thoughts out of Ohio and they're working to do the same in other states. A crazy group.
Now if you google "Citizens for Community Standards" this group is fighting the other group who want to legislate personal morality. You can read all about it at "Standard" web site.
Weekend night's in OTR is dead. Other areas are also dried up of SW's.
During saturday I was at Findlay Market doing the shopping thing and scouting around. I saw a new girl being hassled by a Bike-Cop. See Pic below. I wasn't sure if she was a SW or a regular Findlay Market shopper. Then about 45 min later I was driving down Vine and 15th street. She the same girl standing at the corner across the Kroger's store with a black dude. I think that says it all. Anyone meet this girl yet?
Below are a couple of pics of a SW I call "Bad Girl". See the pictures why I call her that. Anyone seen her lately? What happen to her. I don't think she has been arrested. She was a regular in OTR.
Now for Beauty. Found her Sunday morning on McMicken looking worn out and tired. I took her away and the second time with her was even better than the first. This girl is sweet and friendly.
She told me she got caught soliciting saturday morning in OTR. Her court date is monday 9/10/07. So I don't know if we'll see her for awhile. She was down about getting caught. Beauty is too nice and open to people and I can see her easily trusting people.
This made me mad when she told me about some black dude punched her in the chess. She kind of knew the guy and saw that he was hurt and so she asked him if he was all right. The asshole said to her "don't give me sympathy" and punched her in the chest. What an ASSHOLE.
Then she told me a pastor picked her up and drove to a park and read her scriptures from the bible and gave her .03 when he brought her back.
I told Beauty she needs to go back to family or friends for awhile and get away from OTR. She agreed and after we finished I drove her to a relative house. If you guys do see and pick her up be nice to her. She very sweet and deserves the best treatment. That's all I'm going to say about her for now.
Any news about the OTR situation or other areas?
Be careful out there.
Harpo2U
Snobaldone
09-09-07, 23:15
The southernmost club in the Dayton area is NewYork NewYork. Exit 38 on I75. About a mile west of I75 on SR73.
$5 cover, $3 beer, $25 couch dances (usually 2 for 1) - don't expect anything but titties in your face and squirming on your lap. No matter what, don't go for the "VIP room". Remember to ask how much her drink costs before you agree to buy one.
Hello,
I will be in Cincinnati for work on Mon and Tue next week.
I am just looking for a little help on where to go.
I am not looking for gentelmans clubs.
I just want a working mans strip bar.
A cold beer and something to watch.
Your recent posts are "most excellent" (as we used to say in a previous decade...)
This recent set is striking: The bike cop hassling a girl is a classic for the message conveys:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44991
And this shot of girl in black is almost a glamor shot:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44992
And beauty is worthy of Botticelli (except for the face--sorry):
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44994
You have a good eye and good camera technical skills. Keep 'em coming. Be sure not to include portions in your pix which could ID you!
Thanks from all of us,
Giani
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I found Beauty again and I'll talk about her later but first some other news I have to share.
1st there are some good working man's strip clubs in Dayton, Ohio. One good one in Lawrence Ind. I have not been to Deja Vu east of Cincy for over 7 years so I can't say about that place. If you live in Cincy you have to drive to another city like Dayton, Columbus, Indy and other major cities. It's too bad. At one time this was a great place for strip clubs during the hey days when Larry Flint ruled. Most of you guys never knew how wild and crazy the clubs were in the 70's and 80's.
Strip clubs in Ohio are under attack by the religious group based here in Cincinnati. They call themselves "Citizens for community Values" and they want all porn, Adult magazines, strips clubs and sexual thoughts out of Ohio and they're working to do the same in other states. A crazy group.
Now if you google "Citizens for Community Standards" this group is fighting the other group who want to legislate personal morality. You can read all about it at "Standard" web site.
Weekend night's in OTR is dead. Other areas are also dried up of SW's.
During saturday I was at Findlay Market doing the shopping thing and scouting around. I saw a new girl being hassled by a Bike-Cop. See Pic below. I wasn't sure if she was a SW or a regular Findlay Market shopper. Then about 45 min later I was driving down Vine and 15th street. She the same girl standing at the corner across the Kroger's store with a black dude. I think that says it all. Anyone meet this girl yet?
Below are a couple of pics of a SW I call "Bad Girl". See the pictures why I call her that. Anyone seen her lately? What happen to her. I don't think she has been arrested. She was a regular in OTR.
Now for Beauty. Found her Sunday morning on McMicken looking worn out and tired. I took her away and the second time with her was even better than the first. This girl is sweet and friendly.
She told me she got caught soliciting saturday morning in OTR. Her court date is monday 9/10/07. So I don't know if we'll see her for awhile. She was down about getting caught. Beauty is too nice and open to people and I can see her easily trusting people.
This made me mad when she told me about some black dude punched her in the chess. She kind of knew the guy and saw that he was hurt and so she asked him if he was all right. The asshole said to her "don't give me sympathy" and punched her in the chest. What an ASSHOLE.
Then she told me a pastor picked her up and drove to a park and read her scriptures from the bible and gave her .03 when he brought her back.
I told Beauty she needs to go back to family or friends for awhile and get away from OTR. She agreed and after we finished I drove her to a relative house. If you guys do see and pick her up be nice to her. She very sweet and deserves the best treatment. That's all I'm going to say about her for now.
Any news about the OTR situation or other areas?
Be careful out there.
Harpo2U
Harpo you caught what we see everyday, but cannot always get a photo-proof of!
I guess she was not doing anything arrestable, so she was let go. So now she has to clear the area, and move on.
That same girl I thought I saw around midday going down elm near findlay, but she was wearing a red outfit with tight short pants, and kinda like some short heel shoes. She looked rather sexz, but I lost sight of her as she ducked into the parking lot next to the dry cleaners, near the closed martins bar. There was a sheriff who was arresting a guy at the corner near martins, and she looked like she did not want to go up that far.
Man was this WSW thick and shapely. I spotted her again on race, still in the parking lot area. Once I parked I walked to see if I could find her, but to no avail. It is sometimes hard to catch someone on foot, until they become stationary. Harpo they look like the same girl, but she changed clothes.
The girl who got punch in the chest was very lucky. She is new to the area, and most regulars know better. Some of these boyz have some serious mental problems, and little regard for anyone. We saw two WSW and one BSW get snacked around right down from the closed spot bar. I saw them while cruising, and while once stopping at the arab store near by. It was short quick and nasty. It looked like she owed them some back drug money. The one problem is the later that night she was sitting right back in the area next to where she got snacked/hit. It is a nasty circle!
The SW situation in otr/we and elsewhere, is truly dry!
If you know of any getting out of jail, or just got out, they are willing to do something at their place, but not walk the streets as yet. I passed (3) old regulars, but just waved at me, as I passed them, and once I pulled over they just said give me your number and I'll call you? They did about two hours later, and we did a fs dance, for 30. They said no pic until after there probation is up. I did get a few pics, but promised not to post them as yet.
They are aware of some site posting pics of the area girls. They have been told, but they don't know the name of the site as I have talked to them. A few are hot about it, but know they can't do anything about it. Most seem to have a 50-50 atittude about them as long as I don't show their face. So I don't. I do take a facial pic, but it is for my purposes only.
. I did go to another lock down strip party late Saturday night, and it was 4 strippers strong, but it was 100 for fs and one nut so we are talking about 100 for 15-30. If you longer than that she will start telling you to hurry up. It is only worth it because the girls are so young and sexz. It is more like all the alcohol and beer talking that makes you wiling to pay-per-view (ppv).
With the Bengals game tonight, this is the night to go cruising. They try to arrest as many as they can before such events. So the ones that know the deal, will be out, because most police want to get the ot for doing a game night detail. And the regular patrols will be closer to the stadium area, to protect the fans. So see you on the cruise path. Get yourself a few cold non alcoholic drinks and take a position at a spot where you can see the SW details, and do your cruising as needed. Be careful of the fags. They can at-a-glance, "fool you"? Know what to look for. !
Oh by the way. It has been suggested long ago about finding a new place to work their skills, but the product they use, is close at hand, and they will be just like any thing else. They stay close to their food source/ drug dealers. Rarely are you going to see a deal on fountain square, thus rare any SW's. They can easily blend in, but where can you park to get to your car quickly to leave the area, and score. Besides the time I was working downtown I got alot of phone numbers from "horny" women at lunch on the square who are very lonily for male companionship. Talk about geting it on the first date. Especially the bbw/heaviergirlz. They were good to go!
Not that they were easiler than other women, but they seemed to have already made up there minds, before hand what they want. And you didn't always have to be Prince Charming, just very respectful and discreet.
Lastly, harpo you do get the pics, and I don't see anyone coming close to date. Maybe once the le heat calms down, we can get the cam's out and play pic-catch-up?
Bastic
Word, my man: I know you have been around longer than most of us, and would never bring up the subject of pix of providers on the web with the girls. But, even if "the areas girls" bring up the subject, professing ignorance would be the best policy.
Guys: We LOVE the pix, but mum's the WORD.
Giani
... They are aware of some site posting pics of the area girls. They have been told, but they don't know the name of the site as I have talked to them. A few are hot about it, but know they can't do anything about it..
Nightkrawler
09-12-07, 02:46
Harpo2u,
You are a very lucky man. I'm a northeastern Ohio man, but I would make the trip down for her. Do you have any decent contact info, or any more pictures to share? Beauty is in the eye, but I'd love that beauty in my hands!
Feel more than free to PM me.
Your friendly neighborhood,
Nightkrawler
G-MAN somebody has let the word out about the internet posting, and it is getting around quickly. VERY QUICKLY!
I have seen #5 of the SW I know show me there pictures, which some of their clients took, and three of them I saw posted going back over the last 6-7 months. Now these girlz did not mind it, and thought it was okay as long as there faces weren't shown? I think some of the Fella's are using the act of taking PIC's to get in closer to the SW for whatever reason it is.
I have tried to act like I did not know, and was ignorant of the fact, till I posted a few faceless P-Pics, and someone recognized the girl (s), and when back and told them, they saw them on the Net. At this site. You've Got to Be Shyttin Me! Then she looked it up, and printed a few copies. Needless to say she was HOT at me for a good while. How they figured her out I don't know, unless she opened her mouth and told she had PIC's taken.
I just saw the PIC's Sara, Melinda, and someone else I can't think of right now, they brought to me, asking me if their pic was on the net. I told them "How Would I Know, " but they knew I know a lot about the internet, and did not really believe me. Not That I Cared. But I did not want this Whole issue place on me, like I did it all.
So, I stopped POSTING, especially PICs. I did not stop taking pics, but just Stopped posting them. I honestly really don't give a Shyt what other folks do, but I Don't want to be Blamed for something I did not do or even have knowledge of. What I am trying to do is say "Fella's you need to come up with a better story, other than pleading ignorance, especially if they know you well enough to know you know about computers and the Net. I say ignorance is the Safe way to take, but someone has been telling the girls about this site, and a lot of their pictures being on the site. I'the like to think they are doing it and just don't know any better, but I really don't think that is the case. I think they just don't CARE. A they are just Hoes attitude!
To date, some of the SW are asking for 10-20-50 for PIC's. Hell No! Once they played that game with me, bacause they think people taking the PIC's are selling them and they want a cut up front. I still get my deals because they know me, and have done them favors when times for them are tight. Otherwise, everyone is NOT asking for MORE. Yet! I have to admit, I have received more "No Pic's or Not Today" than ever before.
G-Man. I will have to talk to you One-on-One, to tell you the full story.
Word
Word, my man: I know you have been around longer than most of us, and would never bring up the subject of pix of providers on the web with the girls. But, even if "the areas girls" bring up the subject, professing ignorance would be the best policy. Guys: We LOVE the pix, but mum's the WORD.
Giani
Second point, BTW, Rumor on the street is that Veronica:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=44205
is HIV positive, and busted for soliciting with that condition.
She goes by the name Ronnie on the street. I talked to her a couple of times in the past. I see her on either McMicken or Elm north of Findly almost anytime I drive through.
...somebody has let the word out about the internet posting, and it is getting around quickly. VERY QUICKLY!
Word,
Right you are about it getting around. A friend of mine picked up a WSW a couple weeks ago and during the post-LE check negotiations, they got into a discussion of the menu. She listed most of the standard items for him and then added "but no pictures". Now my friend has never done the pic thing so he thought it was odd that any SW would voluntarily bring it up as being either on or off the menu.
Something to consider, unfortunately, is that the someone who let it out may not be local. I mentioned the sh*t going on in the Indy board last month and that continues to go south - not only screwing up the board but making pickups a little harder for some of the mongers. I just read a post in Louisville where a newbie, boasting of his first pickup, proudly announced "took some pics and then I showed her this website." WTF??? There was a post somewhere else nearby (Cleveland maybe?) where the monger took some pics and she asked if he was going to put them up on the web. Someone local may be having the same converations (and maybe you have some specifics you'd be willing to share on that) but it could be that there's enough of it going around in other places that the local SWs are starting to get it through their grapevine (or their suppliers' grapevines).
I guess it was going to happen that the world's oldest profession would eventually become aware of one of the world's newest technologies. I'll bet we can't stop them hearing about it so the issue for us is how are we going to deal with it.
"10-20-50 for PIC's. Hell no!" is absolutely right. We can't let folks start thinking that pics are a menu item (like bbbj, fs, etc...). When I read some of the mega-pic posters' posts in other cities, it seems like there's always something in there about tossing a little more tip (0.02-0.03) for pics. That sounds like the right way to handle it but only if the pics are great and she's into it since tips are for service/attitude above and beyond. If a SW wants to negotiate pic prices like a menu item, it's probably best to tell them we'll see when its over what they're worth and then bury it in the tip.
Its all about the $$$ for them and they'll work every angle down to the penny to increase their take. And we're the ones with the $$$ so the way to keep the price of pics down (to nothing if possible) is to simply not pay it.
Just my 2 cents.
Have a great day.
Dz
Word,
Right you are about it getting around. A friend of mine picked up a WSW a couple weeks ago and during the post-LE check negotiations, they got into a discussion of the menu. She listed most of the standard items for him and then added "but no pictures"...
Something to consider, unfortunately, is that the someone who let it out may not be local...
Dz
Maybe Puritans using the info on this site to scare the girls?
Just a thought from an Indy guy checking out the region...
Wallie
I did not want to start a forum war out there. I just wanted people to know that this cincy forum is changing, and the SW's of old who were ignorant of the net are getting wised-up, both directly and indirectly.
It ain't like the days of old. I just got one who wants to be posted, for she wants to be an escort. She ain't all there fella's. She think she is going to make big money. I told her she'the do better by going outside of hamilton county.
And I too think some of the goodie two shoes groups are combing this site and telling the SW where they see and read, as the girls are in talbot house, and needing other human services. I can see there point in doing so. It is a logical step to their improvemement. Once they put it on the net, they can "never take it off. "
Hey, people, no war of words. And no flaming!
Here we really can get along! Pm'er sorry for the delay. Boombastic I got your email. Harpo, dweezil your pm's too?
I am back to being silent again!
Word
I would personally like to say congratulations. I think he has been a worth of information over the years, and I can take him at his word for almost everything he post. It is good when you have a member who does not inflame the board members or belittle anyones post. I wish we could post the straight up truth and facts like the days of old, and like other forums like la, mia, nyc, d. C. , and others. But this forum has to stay a guessing game, for now, and you have to read between the lines, if you can?
I am certain that the rest of the member here will continue to give good information to the forum, rather it is this one or other. I can see harpo has takin over the pix posting area. I can see him soon getting t-shirts with his user id on it, to have the SW's pose in it, like baldy cruiser in la. I wanted to do that myself, but that would give up my id like exposing "spiderman as peter parker". And you know they would, especially to stay out of jail.
Saw a couple of our favorites who are out of jail to date, and they asked again about where is this site that is posting about them. I told them the one I know of had to shut down because of the heat on it. So, there is a standard answer for those who don't know what to say.computer knowledgeable SW know better. I think they are trying to make dollar online via a web camera site. Well, those that have kicked the drug habit. I see few who have. The ones that haven't will be back at walking the strets soon. A few are already back in jail.
Anyone having luck on the craigslist. I tried it a few times, but very little luck. I got a few responses, but the connections and returns are too slow, and with the rules on calling I have to use a pay phone to call on. I ain't givin up my number, for nothing. Plus they want to much money, more than I can afford for 15-20 minutes of fun.
Lph, is hotter than otr & we? I did a tour through there and there must be some kind of racial tensions coming about. I two a couple of decent SW's about, but she was too damn slow walkn and a cop came cruising through. A lady stopped her about a third of a block away, to report some kind of fight/argument near the corner store. I waved her off, and drove on. I motioned to the corner and they both walked up together. I was waiting for them slow walkin again, and two cops with lights on came around the tight corner, and that was enough for me. I drove off, and they looked pissed. I guess busines is bad/tight in lph.
Did anyone see the girl on race near mcmic wearing the sunglasses last week. I wasn't certain about her, so I bypassed on her. She just seemed too obvious sporting a short skirt, I think short heels, looked like blond bushy hair, and dark sun glasses. Still, she looked legit, but with few out that day, I was reluctant.
I see liberty and walnut m. T. Again. I saw one near the old gym, but she looked worn out, decent, but worn out. Very little le in the area, which I thought was curious. I even stopped for gas to observe, and in the 15-20 minute I took, I did not see one le of anykind drive by and this was at around 3-4pm. Hummmmm? I wonder what is up?
Don't give up. Word!
I was trolling the chatline Sat. night and came across Jenny. She said she was 24 with long brown hair and green eyes 5'5" 125. She sounded legit on the phone. I got her number and got directions to her place. She was located in Price Hill. She buzzed me in and as I am walking up the stairs some white guy comes down the stairs and asks me if I'm meeting Jenny. Uh OH bad sign. I say yes like an idiot! He has a wide awake crazy ass look on his face and tells me she's 16 and lives with her mom. I say "How do you know her and who are you"? He hesitates and says "I know her dude". At this point I think maybe it's a boyfriend or brother who's pissed. I said , "I'm leaving and try to get past him. He pushes me and says, "You'll do what you gotta do and give her the money" ! I said, "Get the F out of my way"! I push past him down the stairs and out the door. He did try to follow me down the stairs. He yells, "Get out of here or I'll call the cops on ya"! I guess it was a scam but they were pretty stupid not to get the money first. I have her number and address if it's real. I was pretty lucky I didn't get hurt or lose any money. They all want you to come to them on the chatline. None of them seem to drive or if they do the story is that they need money to fix their car.
I did meet a 21 yr old white thick girl today who was pretty cute for some fun thru the chatline. She was 5'4 140-150 with long brown hair and some nice puffies. She did some BBBJ, 69 and covered doggy for $.80 which is a little high for the chatline. She actually looked the way she described herself to me. I have noticed that the better looking and younger ladies seem to charge more for their service.
Dude you don't owe that be-itch nothing. "nothing"!
If someone don't any of the brotherhood out there like that, "post their azzes". I truely hate that crap. Especially the young game player. I am seeing a lot of young naive white girlz thinking they can make some money off scamming folks. I posted about that withthe young WSW "short body" a year or two ago. She damn near got killed playin those scams, and she still ain't learned better. At once point I know she had a semi hit on her, which was to just beat her up very badly, to school her. She ended up in jail and that saved her.
So you are doing this young girl a favor, and ending her scam before it can get started. I had this thick italian girl, doing full service for 50, and she came over to your place, for 90 minute, and for 20 more she'the stay an extra hour. You could do everything to her. She told me about her dude in jail, and on, and on. Cutting the story, he got out and got a hold of her address book/cell phone. He then called me, as he probably did everyone on her list. He had her call first to make certain I was home and willing. Then he called back and declared she was only #15 and I was having sex with a minor, and he knew where I lived and was going to turn me in to the cops, unless I paid him $500 bucks cash.
I told, then you must be so-and-so? She has told me a lot about you. I imagine you have to check in with your probation officer soon. I think he will be very interested to hear this conversation. You see all may phone calls are routed through my computer (you know back then when that was big), and I record every call to my hard drive. Now I ain't lookin for trouble, but I know if I go down, I am cetainly taking you with me. And blackmail is a federal crime, and you know that.
That dude must have shyt a brick, because he immediately hung up, but the speaker phone button had not been depressed, and he did not know I could still hear him. That boy was nervous a hell, and started yelling at her, and wanting her to go over to my place, and get the tape, as he thought, or show him where I lived, so he could talk to me about it. After he finished yelling, she picked up the phone I guess to call me, and was shocked I was still on the phone. Since he never hung up completely, I was still on the line, and she and I begian to talk. I told her as long as he never called my place again nor ever came close to comming over, and that she never tells him where I live. Then this matter is closed. I never heard from him again.
I did hear from her 2 month later. He was back in jail, probation violation, and this time she had a room out at the motel 6. I did tell a few close buddy where I was going to be at and to call me there every 20-25 minutes. If I don't answer, call the cops and give them the 411. It could have been a scam/rip-off. After I got there it was legit. Other SW were working out of there too. She finally got busted too, not for trickin, but for trying to smuggle drugs into the jail for her boyfriend. Someone set them both up from inside the jail. Stupid! Somebody got themselves out early!
So post her shyt! Let the cops have her!
Lastly. The younger girlz are always asking for a higher price due to rap videos. The rappers are always talking about paying 100 or more for a stripper freak, because it is strictly about businesssss. So young girlz know they can make 50 buck at the clubs right in the parking lot (and they do), in the back seat, on the hood, behind a post, or on the steps. I have had them do it for me at clubs too. You just have to know who does what. Give the doorman/bouncer a big tip, once he knows you are safe, and be prepared.
Be careful often the doorperson. Bouncer is straight up, and don't get involved in such things, and will ban you from the club, or assume you are le.
You are only going to get one nut, and about 15-20-25 minutes to do it in, according to the girl involved. And if done right, they will feel it. If they like what you did, next time you can take longer. They are shocked when you care enough to bring them to orgasm. They really love that shyt.
Don't do a lot of talking, for most times they are very uncertain about you, and a lot of chit-chat, can and will spook them.
Most of the young girlz see takin money for sex, just a function of having fun, doing what they want to do and getting paid for doing what they were willing to do for free anyway. They can take that money and go shopping, or buy there own drinks. I use to do a girl I see trickin now, before when she was younger, and had no kids. I did her almost every Friday, and sometimes Saturday when she was only 19, and going to the clubs with fake 22/id. I paid her 40, the first time, and 30 everytime after that. I even remembered her birthday, and that shicked her, because I gave her a 20 tip, and after that, I could almost do her for "free".
Word up and out
Handiman66
09-27-07, 23:34
goes by honey. Sweet girl is a bit big but tell that in the add, Graet personaliy and perforance. Uses a Hotel near her house
treat her right, she has not tunred bitter yet
I picked up Sarah on Race yesterday afternoon for a quick BBBJ. Very petite, WSW, 29YO, weighs about 95 pounds, cute, pretty smart, talkative, good to be with.
Did the job nicely. If you've ever wanted to get a BBBJ from a girl elf, here is your chance.
HHH
A year or so back, Sarah let her fingers do the walking while her lips were otherwise occupied. Lifted my cell phone from my pants pocket. This Sara was short, but more like 110 lbs at that time. She may well have been on the butter weight loss program since that time. I believe that she is Cat's daughter? Or HHH's Sarah may be a completely different SW.
She taught me the lesson of paying attention to more than what is happening to the little head...
Glad that HHH had a good experience with her!
Giani
I picked up Sarah on Race yesterday afternoon for a quick BBBJ. Very petite, WSW, 29YO, weighs about 95 pounds, cute, pretty smart, talkative, good to be with.
Did the job nicely. If you've ever wanted to get a BBBJ from a girl elf, here is your chance.
HHH
This Sarah was more on the cream diet than the butter diet, but in any case did not try to deprive me of any personal property.
She said she lives on Race...born and raised there, and while the product of an urban upbringing, she was very nice with no gang banger talk, ebonics, or other hints as to her locale or profession.
I might note that Cincinnati has an unbroken record of providing very satisfying talent to me on every trip here over the past many years. And to think, people say they come here for the chili.
HHH
Mr Boombastic
10-04-07, 15:16
One Sara is the Petite one and the other is the taller one. They both hang in the basic same area, and I am certain they know each other.
Both are thin, with tall Sara of course bigger. Tall Sara is going rock bottom lately, and a few dealers are looking for her. She took off with some money, and did not come back. I saw her a few days ago, abd because of it ByPassed her.
The small Sara I have had, if it is the one I am thinking about, but she wanted me to call her by another name, which I forget, and I use to meet her down by the doorway, before they closed the building on Race. She was so Petite, I had to put her on the couch with extra cushions below her to raise her up from behind. Once the build closed I had NOT seen her anymore.
There is a third Sara, but she now work LPH, W. Wd. , and W. Hills. Her name really isn't Sara, she just goes by it.
Pm me if you have seen "Kiwi". She should be out of Jail by now. Maybe in a Halfway House
Bastic
Anyone heard of Anne. Wow!
Anyone had the pleasure of meeting Anna? All I have to say is WOW.
sorry about the repost
Mr Boombastic
10-07-07, 13:47
If you use your PM's, and want to receive a reply, you may need to go in and delete something in order to receive futures messages.
I have received pm's, but when I returned their reply, their boxes were full, and the reply bounced.
Check your box bar graph. Otherwise it will seem that one is responding to your pm's. You box is "full"?
Just thought I'd post this message!
BooMBasTic.
Gave a ride to a WSW named Julie yesterday afternoon. near Findlay and Race (don't worry, I wasn't dumb enough to actually stop and pick her up at that spot, unlike someone I watched a few cars ahead of me).
She had light hair, olive shaped eyes. Not heavy, but not skinny either. Service and attitude were both way above average. I got the impression that she wasn't new to the game, but she also didn't display any of the attributes of someone supporting a drug habit. I'd definately give her a ride in the future.
I don't know if it is the Julie Giani mentioned in a post last year or not.
On another note, OTR seems to be dead at night lately. I've noticed activity during the late afternoon, but it's not like it used to be.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=429879&postcount=106
Well I can't post pictures of the girls caught by LE so I'll post some of my personal pictures. Jackson says that by posting pics of the girls jailed quote "is somewhat heartless and really just helping the police in their efforts to embarrass these people." unquote.
That statement is a good one for a long discussion on the pros and cons of pictures but not now. If you read the recent posts at the Columbus board any pictures of the girls are being used by undercover and LE.
Read: http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=575722&postcount=594
This could be one of many ways the SW's in Cincinnati now know about this site.
Like in Columbus, undercover, regular cops, probation officers, johns, mongers, Moms and Dads, church groups ETC. are telling and showing this site and pictures to every SW in Cincinnati.
Like it or not everybody knows and especially LE.
Enough said on that. So pictures I will post now will be manipulated and alter for ambiguity. Very little info will be written on the board to conceal the girls identity.
I hope to read more about LE activities in OTR and other areas from you guys. The more details the better about where, when and how they are operating these days.
Here are a couple of pics of a girl I've dated a few times.
Seva Lurker
10-11-07, 10:51
Well there are a couple of things to be said about LE and John Q non mongering Public seeing and pointing out the USASG.
First, bravo, now folks who weren't aware of it and wanted to monger know where to go for info.
Second, I think it has pretty much gone without saying that LE reads this board. They also know the ladies in question, probably better than we do. They see them out there everyday.
Third, we need to be careful on the pictures we post. If you aren't sure the lady is working, don't post her photo here. I recall seeing a couple of photos on this board where the post said they were just girls out and about and not working. That doesn't help. If LE is going to use the photos to ID working girls, then more power to them. So let's not give them reason to harass innocent ladies just because we think they are working or because they looked good. But let's not start running scared and quit posting reports or photos. If we do that, then LE, like terrorists, have won through intimidation.
Cops "ho ho ho v.2" was on court TV the other night. For those of you that haven't seen it, they bust Chrissy in OTR. She used to be a real pretty girl with tats all down her arms and dark hair. She OD'ed shortly after the show aired.
Johnny
Cintixtreme
10-12-07, 09:13
Picked up Mandy yesterday afternoon across from a favorite old spot. Young WSW, completely coherent with a great attitude. And gentleman, we all know that attitude is everything. Went to my location, and during travel she was singing along with the radio mixed with pleasant light conversation. When we got settled, she was ready to proceed without even discussing the donation. When I inquired if she would catch, she answered "Of course, wouldn't want to make a mess" and gave me an impish grin.
Bottom line, the job was performed well and with enthusiasm. I gave her the standard 2 with a bonus for attitude and performance. She is still fresh enough to know she doesn't want to continue in this lifestyle, but it is where she is for the moment, so she makes the best of it. If you see her, don't do anything to crush that outlook.
Happy hunting, and stay safe.
The following web site provides an interactive map in which you can browse arrest (and other) records by location around town. You can specifiy a time window, and zoom in to particular areas around town. Some of you might find it interesting.
http://data.cincinnati.com/navigator/
Mr Boombastic
10-16-07, 03:02
I thought I was mistaken when I saw a State Trooper making an arrest at York and Linn. Then again farther down the street, and again in another area.
I thought man, they are catching folks coming off the expressway.
WELL HELL NO! They are patrolling the area, since when?
They are busting a lot of dealing/dope-boyz, and catching a lot of folks blocking traffic. I hope they leave the girlz alone. They can bust the Fags.
I was told they have been doing this for about a month or two now. What!
I totaling missed this on the NEWS! There are some flyer's in the stores posted about it. I will start paying attention to the flyer's from now on.
Has anyone else seen the troopers. I saw a line of three of them going down Linn a few days ago. And they are HOT patrolling the area from Arlington Heights to the Bridge, writing tickets.
Very soon there won't be a need for the Cincinnati Police, to patrol anything. They will be left to doing Security Guard work. Just High Paid Rent-A-Cops!
I know they can be liking this. The less CPD, the less need to be hire, and the more Sheriffs hired to fill in the there ranks. And now add the State Patrol.
Soon it really will be " King Simon Says. " If Larry Flynt really wanted to get Revenge on Simon Leis, then he would throw his millions behind defeating the Jail Tax. It has some Bogus Name now, but it is still a Jail Tax, by any other name.
Well, Remember to Vote Early and Vote Often?
B
Happened to do my cruise route through OTR around noon Sunday. Almost ZILCH. Only a very wornout Asian (Philippino?) woman looking a bit crazed--did not arose even the slightest interest.
Interestingly, I also saw no LE what so ever. (Bengal's pre game?)
Haved eased off the street mongering a bit lately. For a while my M******e, very much to my liking, had stable housing and digits. But she has moved on to places unknown. Any of you to whom I gave her digits previously--PM me if you have a line on her.
So... Does anyone have friends who have had luck in OTR? Maybe those friends will let you post information about where all the girls have gone! Or better yet--any recent luck they might have had.
Giani
Mr Boombastic
10-22-07, 01:19
LE was absent this weekend due to the Rich "ACE" Franklin UFC#77 match and then the next day the Bengals at home. That is a lot of paid details, and easy money for City and County Cops. You see all the cops at the Fight/MMA.
Man those boyz got paid easy money. And of course the Bengals game, plus all the street cops pulling duty before and after both events.
I took "FULL" advantage of it. I did go to the fight, but before and after the streets were LE FREE. Nothing much to find. I know where a few live, and hit those spots, and got lucky. Of course NO DIGITS, or Minutes, so why bother.
I LOVE Double Feature Events like that. You can catch the Parttimers easier, and you can pick up someone w/o hassle.
ANYWAY, I am still a big Rich Franklin Fan, but my money was on Anderson Silva. Good Fight Rich !
It is better to HUNT when the Game Wardens are too busy to hassle you.
And when you hunt during that time, try to stop at one of the local eatery's and observe. There are a few and see if some old friends walk by. Or take a walk/ride in the Park. Sometime, a few who are off drugs, but still need money come to the park to relax. Some bills still have to be paid, especially the RENT.
They will be back to normal, and the colder days are coming. Even fewer will be out, as it gets colder. And the Jail issue 27 ( Do VOTE for it), is keep them locked up, where there is suppose to be NO Room.
If you can learn to find out where they live, by giving them a ride home, rather than relying on digits. You can catch them at home more than you can with a cell phone. And very often you catch their friends too, at their place/home.
Sometimes, the friends is the BETTER Catch !
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Mr Boombastic
10-22-07, 01:25
The USAWSG site is acting up again, and seems to be very slow at times, so my cursor hit the send button, before I could hit STOP.
But just in case ?
So in my last post I meant to say .... "Do Not VOTE for Issue #27"
Sorry about the Mistake ! I will correct it once posted via editing.
The last week I've not seen Simon's boys in OTR and very little Cincinnati LE. Also very little action going on period.
Where are all the girls? Mostly staying at the comfort inn at 900 Sycamore St.
Simon's boys did clean up the place and it will be awhile before the girls are out again if they come back. Lots of drug busted guys in the lockup too.
I've posted some pics of familiar scenes. Two are very interesting shoots of a cop on a sedway. Same cop ridding along Warsaw Ave in upper price hill near the kroger's. You can't see the front of the Sedway but there is camera mounted on the front.
FYI: Listening to the John Phillips and Brian Thomas morning radio 55KRC on fridays when they have guest cops talk.
The LE has special cameras mounted on the dash that can scan car plates instantly as they drive by and on the computer monitor tell if they have a person with a warrant. Also it records the cars location by GPS. Not all cop cruisers have this tech. It's very expensive like $20K or more.
New tech that LE has to check on people. Think about it guys. Simon wants more tax money for new toys to chase bad guys than just a new jail.
There are a few girls out there but they have to work fast and they don't stay out late. Old days are fading away.
Harpo2U
I was particularly struck by your "Gone Away" collage mural on the Moore and Walnut building (Husman's?).
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=46733
And also, the McMicken and Race church caught in your rear view mirror was a good touch:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=46727
I recognize the (VERY hot) spot, and am pretty sure I recognize the girl in this picture. Looks like she is on her way to Cookie's... (Do you know Cookie?)
I have attached a picture of that OTR landmark. I guess it can now be told that at one point it was near the epicenter of mongering in Cincinnati.
I have also attached a very blurry picture of the crazed Philippino SW I reported over the weekend. I may not be worth posting, but veteran mongers will recognize the location.
George W. Bush
10-23-07, 21:34
The cops do know you have to be a certified fag to ride a Segway, right?
Mr Boombastic
10-24-07, 18:50
I thought the Crazy Looking Philippino/Asian/Indian long haired SW was just one Fugly Fag. I did not know that was a woman.
Damn she is Rough Lookin!
I have passed by her many times and thought it was a dude.
Now I have to LAUGH, because I was completely Fooled!
Either way I knew who I wouldn't be picking up. She looks really Bad!
Glad you made that point, because I was telling folks to avoid the Asian/Indian lookin Fag in the area.
Are you really sure that is a woman, and not a man.
I ask because she/he needs a shave badly, and some clean clothes.
Did you see Spike TV, and the program "MANSWERS" . They had a segment about avoiding picking up a SW LE Decoy.
Good Info, and Excellent for people who don't know better. They also had a few other tricks to follow one should already be using. Watch it.
I was particularly struck by your "Gone Away" collage mural on the Moore and Walnut building (Husman's?).
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=46733
And also, the McMicken and Race church caught in your rear view mirror was a good touch:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=46727
I recognize the (VERY hot) spot, and am pretty sure I recognize the girl in this picture. Looks like she is on her way to Cookie's... (Do you know Cookie?)
I have attached a picture of that OTR landmark. I guess it can now be told that at one point it was near the epicenter of mongering in Cincinnati.
I have also attached a very blurry picture of the crazed Philippino SW I reported over the weekend. I may not be worth posting, but veteran mongers will recognize the location.
I just saw her getting put into a cruiser today. So long bearded woman!
Had an opportunity to sample some local talent.
Sherri (sp?)
She said she was 22. A cups, 5'1 cute.
Picked her up near 8 and state.
Rode up the hill to a side street and had my meat washed for .2
Well worth it.
Took the edge off. :)
Happy hunting.
RegularGuy077
10-29-07, 19:39
I will be visiting your fair city soon from N.E. Florida (Jacksonville)
Where is the action. I will be staying on Rybolt street
PM me or just post
Thanks in advance,
RG out
Hi guys. Just dropping by to say "Hi.". It's been awhile but I'll be in town a week in November. Who knows? I might even find some time to sample the goods in Cincinnati.
Giani! Dude! What's up!!?!? I see you're still the man with a plan. The bro in the know. The poop with the scoop.... (Sorry. I couldn't think of any other word to rhyme with scoop.) What's shaking? Be sure to keep handing out those nuggets of wisdom to keep the newbies and kiddies playing safe.
Great to hear from you. The combination of "Operation Vortex" which concentrated on hassling OTR street folks, with the aid of Sheriff's boys, has done a significant job of sweeping the streets, making OTR a very different place. There are still occasionally finds out there, but the pickings are slim, but worth a look. I have found decent known SWs in the past weeks, but not on every trip. (Doesn't it make one feel old to say "Ah, the good old days...?")
Let us know when you are in Sinsinnati, we'll see if we have any updates.
Be safe, well, and satisfied...
Giani
Hi guys. Just dropping by to say "Hi.". It's been awhile but I'll be in town a week in November. Who knows? I might even find some time to sample the goods in Cincinnati.
Giani! Dude! What's up!!?!? I see you're still the man with a plan. The bro in the know. The poop with the scoop.... (Sorry. I couldn't think of any other word to rhyme with scoop.) What's shaking? Be sure to keep handing out those nuggets of wisdom to keep the newbies and kiddies playing safe.
I heard sheriff Simon Leis say on the radio if the new Jail tax fails their will be no money to continue the sheriff patrols of OTR. If it does pass I assume they will still be around for awhile. Let's hope it fails and opens up the streets again.
Well, I'm guessing it's probably safer to go the escort route. I was never really a good street trawler. I hate to drive around, and I hate risking getting pulled over and questioned. I know, I know, it's less expensive out on the streets. However, the escorts of Cincinnati have been very good to me and the quality just can't be beat (generally speaking).
Keep warm, play safe!
-D'Nut
Great to hear from you. The combination of "Operation Vortex" which concentrated on hassling OTR street folks, with the aid of Sheriff's boys, has done a significant job of sweeping the streets, making OTR a very different place. There are still occasionally finds out there, but the pickings are slim, but worth a look. I have found decent known SWs in the past weeks, but not on every trip. (Doesn't it make one feel old to say "Ah, the good old days...?")
Let us know when you are in Sinsinnati, we'll see if we have any updates.
Be safe, well, and satisfied...
Giani
Looks like the county jail tax levy failed. It will be interesting to see how that effects the LE presence down in OTR, especially with some guy on the news talking about funds for extra sherriff patrols running out by the end of the month. Things in OTR have been dead on dead. Simon has been working hard these past couple months to keep the current county lock up full to the brim any way possible as a way of justifying why the new tax should be passed. With this result, I wonder if they'll start getting a little more selective/realistic about who they're putting away - save space for the real criminals!
Just my 2 cents. We now return you to your regularly scheduled mongering updates. There are some updates, aren't there ???
Have a great day.
Dz
So even Cincinnati's arch conservative voters could see through Leis' scam. If you want additional evidence of how bad Leis' police state was getting, take a look at the extravagant toys he proudly displayed in a blatant and illegal campaign operation promoting the new jail:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDnmMLyQqAs
[Too bad the person posting the YouTube item did not make his comments more readable--they are right on the money.]
Maybe Leis' puritanical (and hypocritical) campaign has had the air let out of it. But when will we learn to use the jails for persons who actually pose a REAL threat to our safety? And maybe even actually using jail sentences for "correction" and rehabilitation rather than graduate schools for high level violent crime...
Drugs and sex CAN present a problem, but we should have learned that prohibition only makes them profitable to the underworld. And prostitution, an element of civilization since ancient times, should hardly be a reason to compound the problem of our incarceration obsession. In both cases, what makes sense in an enlightened society is legalization; and focused care on the health problems associated with the underlying problems: unprotected sex and drug overuse.
OK, off my soap box. Yes--I expect that Leis' Taliban will execute fewer hassles in OTR. As Dweezil says, back to previously scheduled mongering updates!!!
(I will add that OTR has been bare the last several times I have passed thru.)
And... be careful (and respectful) out there.
Giani
Looks like the county jail tax levy failed. It will be interesting to see how that effects the LE presence down in OTR, especially with some guy on the news talking about funds for extra sherriff patrols running out by the end of the month. Things in OTR have been dead on dead. Simon has been working hard these past couple months to keep the current county lock up full to the brim any way possible as a way of justifying why the new tax should be passed. With this result, I wonder if they'll start getting a little more selective/realistic about who they're putting away - save space for the real criminals!
Just my 2 cents. We now return you to your regularly scheduled mongering updates. There are some updates, aren't there ???
Have a great day.
Dz
I had a chance to run through OTR a couple times this morning. Both (~9am & ~11:30am) were pretty quiet. A couple WSW down on McM and Main looking pretty tired on the early run. One is a regular I haven't met and the other was someone I haven't seen before. A couple BSWs walking around Findlay/Race with their handlers during the second run. None worth the time to stop.
Interesting experience - on the early pass through I got behind a Cincy LE car for couple blocks. Good looking blonde wearing a white lightweight parka and sunglasses in the front seat having a friendly chat. She seemed obviously comfortable and it looked "low stress" when I finally passed them and had a chance to look over at her. On the later pass, I'm sure I saw the same blonde sitting on the steps at Elm and Henry. Same parka, same glasses, same blonde hair up in a bun. Didn't see any LE around but my "better safe than sorry" alarm was going off - especially since she was one of the better looking step sitters that I've seen down there for a while.
Not sure what it means but the appropriate reminder is that if it looks too good to be true, it's probably not for real.
Have a great day.
Dz
This past saturday, Nov 10th, I was driving down Reading Rd. and saw a blonde in a sheriff's cruiser. She was talking up a storm by the looks of it and both her and LE were looking friendly. They continued down Reading toward downtown while I turned onto Liberty St. OTR has been dead for the most part and like Dweezil said in his post only a couple of SWs here and there.
Now that Simon Leis has arrested everyone he could in OTR, all the SWs and dealers and general people walking around with open containers and drug paraphernalia, it's possible there could be stings set up to catch "johns" as his next goal. Here's why.
Most of all the regular SWs we all seen are in jail and will not be getting out any time soon. Some are in jail till April 2008 according to the Hamilton County Sheriff's Office. I've been watching who's in and when they will get out.
Now tonight on channel 12 there is a story about the "High Tech Hooker" that the sheriff's dept. are now focusing on. See this link:
http://www.local12.com/News/Local/story.aspx?content_id=1E3ADD18-5F5B-4258-8B89-574FDC32639D&gsa=true
Like other cities on this site has posted stories about stings using the Craigslist and catching "john".
Simon isn't going to stop yet in arresting as many people as he can to prove his point.
By the way, most of all the arrest this past year has been people driving without a drivers license. After that it's people carrying drugs and or drug paraphernalia. I'm sure you've seen all the LE stop people on the streets in OTR and do a search on them for what ever reason LE can get away with in searching people.
I believe the next target is mongers and the CL girls.
Changing the topic a little, THANKS to all that voted DOWN the jail tax (issue 27), and with that I present a pic for the celebration. See Simon's pic below.
Saw a new girl and decide to take a hit for the team. I won't say where I met her except in PMs with people with posts that proves they're legit mongers.
Found this girl and decided to try her out even though her prices were a little high for FS. She charges .25 for BJ and .50 for FS.
She wasn't as great as "Beauty" if you remember "beauty" from early this summer. But this girl had a nice disposition. Told me a lot about other friends of hers and I have digits which I had checked out as valid. For senior members and regulars who check out with good posts that had contributed to this board. People with none or few post don't bother PMing me for digits.
New girl has ok skills and in the BBBJ department but it was nice having a SW with some meat on her and larger breast to play with for a change. No rush and like I said she is friendly and pleasant.
Lets all try to keep up with regular reports about LE actions.
Be Careful out there,
Harpo2U
Mr Boombastic
11-14-07, 14:42
Thanks for voting "no" on issue #27.
It will be reintroduced in the March elections under a different name and title. Watch for the flip. Trick! Uncle simon is gathering his forces. And he will run again, get his jail, via a law suit, and retire with fangman running for his position.
Watch and see!
This is a repost from the Rockford I'll. Files, and what happened to a person who did not know better.
Now "You" should know better?
Read there forum for the replies and additional information.
I think he would like to hear your pm's to him.
Maybe, you have been there too!
My last outting ever
Fellas,
I have been mongering on and off for about 4-5 years. I live about a half hr from the rock and I don't have many excuses to go there often. Today I did have a particular errand to run that took me that way. I was there from 2-4 this afternoon (sat). There were only 2 BSW on broadway, both looked high as hell. So I gassed up on 11th st. Close to rte 20 bypass. I turned around for 1 more look through. There was a WSW that gave me the eye close to the pump handle. She got in, wanted. 4, I told her all I had was. 2. She said that'll do. I gave her the money and she got on her cell. I asked who she was calling and she said the police. All I could do was turn into the lot with the bar/lounge close to the pump handle.
Here is where I don't know if I got taken to the cleaners or not, but either way, it scared me shitless enough that I will never monger again.
She said she was not a cop but helps them out. Said she was caught with federal drug charges 3 years ago. Says that now she helps out the cops as part of her terms. Anyway, I was scared out of my mind. The thought of losing my money to get out of jail, the impouded car, etc. She gave me some mercy. Said it would cost 200 cash to her and she would let me walk. Got to the driveup atm and then she boosted it to 300. Obviously I agreed and gave it to her. I turned around and high tailed it out of there, and saw her walking into the cash store. Like I said, the phone call may or may not have been real. But it was real enough for me. I think I found a way to finagle the money around. My wife does the banking with the check book and all- but lesson learned. I am done.
You would "never" think that scam would work on "anyone anywhere"?
Vt. Out (the originator of the post)
Here's the link:
http://www.local12.com/mediacenter/local.aspx?videoId=21688
In Sharonville, West Chester and Mason LE arresting the Girls who advertise in CL. I'll be checking the jail site to see who has been arrested.
With all the illegal aliens in the county, LE wants to stop guys hooking up for some service. I really don't get it about the politics in this town.
So be careful if you use the CL for service.
Here is a link for some vauable info about escorts. It's also has some funny stuff to read.
http://sex.perkel.com/escort/index.htm
Harpo2U
There's an interesting coversation going on over on the Indy board about a CL ad. According to the reverse directory, the number in the ad was a suburban LE station. Worth reading as you think about tactics that might start to show up in our liberal little town.
Also, had a friend who took a drive through NKY yesterday afternoon. He told me it looked a lot busier than usual. He didn't recognize anybody but wondered if it's the result of folks moving south of the river to find a little piece and quite.
And - WTF happened to the Whitey One Bites at 12th and Madison. There one day, gone the next? The parking lot was a great place to hang in the summer and see who would stoll up to the car. My friend said he had some fond memories of the place. To bad I'll never get that chance now.
Have a great day.
Dz
Scubamedic
11-15-07, 20:15
I called an ad on CL last weekend and heard police radios in the back ground noise. I posted this on CL and it was flagged almost within 10 minutes. It was at the Drury in witht the Black escort advertising 80 for a BJ.
I called an ad on CL last weekend and heard police radios in the back ground noise. I posted this on CL and it was flagged almost within 10 minutes. It was at the Drury in witht the Black escort advertising 80 for a BJ.
No surprize I guess - the Drury was one of the hotels highlighted on the Channel 12 report as a "haven" for "this kind of activity". We're probably in for a little cold spell (and I don't mean just the weather) but I figure hookin' is the world's oldest profession for a reason. It's outlived the Dark Ages, Reconstruction, the Plague, the Crusades and probably the Spanish Inquisition (Nobody expects the Spanish Inqusition!!!). I susepct it will outlive this.
Have a great day.
Dz
Advertising and offering 80 bj's? Isn't that soliciting?
And your point is?
With the report of less LE in the area due to City budget cuts, is that a + or a -?
I can see maybe more SWs coming out but also more crimes like robbery & shootings.
Any thoughts on this?
Instead of actually addressing violent street crime, LE hassles SWs, and brothers dealing on the corner. Not that (drug) prohibition has not led to violent wars of territory, but the roots of the problems are being totally ignored. Legalization and control of drugs would pull the rug out from under the massive profits available to those who deal. And make help more readily available to SWs strung out.
Frankly, I have greater sense of threat when I see lots of LE than from brothers and sisters on the street. LE is more deceptive, lying, intimidating and potentially violent than the street brothers or sisters. And at least the street people are not PRETENDING to be someone else.
I am SURE you are not asking whether mongering might be more or less favorable with fewer LE on the street.. I mean... DUH.
Are we less safe? Do you know and follow the rules of the street? Do you adhere to the rules of mongering? (I have posted them many times.)
Do NOT take newbie chances. Keep your big head in charge (good luck). Be aware of your surroundings. When I meet a brother on the street, we know where each of us stands and maintain a healthy skepticism. LE not so...
Do not offer yourself as a target for robbery, (and give me a break) shooting? Give it up if you are looking down the barrel. (How DID you get into that situation?) The $50 in your wallet is not worth it.
And if you can't take the heat...
Giani
With the report of less LE in the area due to City budget cuts, is that a + or a -?
I can see maybe more SWs coming out but also more crimes like robbery & shootings.
Any thoughts on this?
The cost to the tax payers in Cincy could be cut in half if the Hamilton County Sheriff's dept. and Cincinnati police would stop all the fraudulent arrests the LE does. Arresting hundreds of people with minor charges over and over to push the stats up to justify the millions on the passing the tax bill.
People in Cincy were wise to the political scam and voted NO.
Giani is right about the fact that LE spends a lot of time chasing small time dealers and SW instead of more serious crime. But going after call girls on CL and the SWs on the streets is easier than going after illegal immigrants and white collar crime and the violent street gangs killing people.
OTR is about 1 square mile of the northern section of downtown Cincy and Simon Leis wants 7.7 millions more than what he has to continue having 19 cops to patrol the area?
That and build a new jail. Money and Politics at it worst. There are hundreds of small towns in Ohio alone that don't have 19 cops on the force and don't have a budget amount of money that ol' Simon has or wants.
Simon's budget for 2007 was 95.6 millions with 1073 employees. And he wanted more $$. Just a business.
For more BS on this see the link:
http://news.enquirer.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071116/NEWS01/311160050
Other news:
LE are at the motels chasing the call girls and or their johns with stings setup for guys to call and for the girls to met undercover in the motel rooms.
You can read some of the posts that warns what ads on Craigslist to watch out because LE has been spotted at certain motels. LE is also flagging the warning post. If you check out the CL list in erotic services, there is a guy advertising a site he's setting up with reviews of the girls and the LE warnings. It's brand new so check it out.
I can't post pictures of girls arrested here in Cincinnati because "jackson" will pull them out. However, at other cities on this site other members are posting pictures and names of girls in their city on the board. Go figure because I don't. There has been about 5 arrested this past 2 weeks.
Other news in the state of Ohio:
The strip clubs in Cleveland are challenging the law banning touching and the no nudity after midnight laws. The clubs are going to U.S. district Judge Solomon Oliver Jr. with the challenge that the law is vague and is an unconstitutional violation of free speech and expression.
I hope they can win. If not then the cincinnati based "Citizens for community Values" will be going into your private bedroom next and telling you what you can and can't do in bed. ....... Scary !
National News:
In Orlando FL. there is a rag newspaper much like the Cincinnati CityBeat that has Ads for hookers, massage girls and escorts in the paper. Just like "CityBeat" except the LE arrested 3 of the newspaper Ad sales reps for selling Ads to prostitutes in the "Orlando Weekly".
The LE down there went undercover and walked in the sales dept and said they were prostitutes themselves and wanted to buy Ads in the "Orlando Weekly" Adult Services section. The 3 people were busted because they were making a profit off the prostitutes by knowingly selling to prostitutes!!!!
LE will go to any length to bust people over anything these days. I'm wondering if a drug store clerk sells condoms and other such items to a known prostitutes if they'll be arrested for promoting prostitution sex??
Anyway the "Orlando Weekly" has pulled it Ads for Adult Services. It's no longer a free county like it use to be anymore guys.
Here is the link:
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/florida/sfl-flfweekly1117pnnov17,0,2511381.story?track=rss
How have you guys been doing out there lately?
Be Safe and watch out for LE
Harpo2U
Mr Boombastic
11-20-07, 17:07
It is very good that the Voter were not SCAMMED by the Fear and Smear tactic of the the Powers that B. But it AIN'T OVER!
This all started some 12 years ago, when a lot of Downtown Corporations found that it was of great convenience to have there Young up and coming Star living closer to the corporate office. Well at the time, very few and little Housing was available for the Stars and family. It at the time was in the making. It had been on the Books of the Year 2000 Plan for Cincy since 1984. I saw it then while at UC, on a trip to City Hall. It basically cleared out all the Projects from WE/OTR and other housing, and used Gov, Grants and Loans to do it. The Promise of New Affordable Housing was a the Trick Bag.
REMOVING all the Crime from OTR first was the objective, and removing the people from WE was the next. Once this was enacted, it would open the way for reconstruction and having NEW Condos and Housing for the Corp. Stars and Families.
This was all started before Year 2000, but a few thing got side tracked and it did not go just as planned. Gov. Money did not come as planned, and moving the people took a lot longer than planned.
They had to give the appearance that thing were going as planned and a lot of minor drug arrest and other arrest show progress.
Major bust were happening too, but to Drug Dealler the LE already new about and were just waiting for the right NEWs time to bust them.
The Riots were a big Monkey Wrench in the plans, but things still moved onwards. The War has pulled a whole lot of Money from the deal, but Corporate still wants things build. Now the Top of this whole deal is the Banks Project and competing with NKy. People will not come from the Burbs to Downtown (Arnoff, Music Hall, Playhouse, etc. , ) if they think Downtown is unsafe. So they need all the small arrest to get folks off the street or massed into certain areas of easier control. Knowing the BANKS is about to start, Corporate Money will be released to be used especially from Western Southern, and they P & G, Kroger, Duke, CinBell, many Big Legal Firms, and others want to turn Downtown Cincy back into an AfterWork Playground, and Weekend place to go. Very liitle CRIME can be there if this is to happen.
SO TO DO THIS. It is Full Speed ahead and "CHARGE"! Uncle Simon will keep the Jails Full and over crowed, and the State money to house inmates will keep his people and politics working.
A lot is going on under the radar. Many people got kicked out of there housing when their Leases were reviewed, and they had anyone with a criminal record living or use to live with them. OUT TO THE BURBS WITH YA! Move out the people and you move out the crime, and the Corp Stars moving in can fill SAFE.
Please understand this is all written in a quick nut shell. It would get too boring, like it ain't already if I wrote everything.
As for going after CL and CityBeat girls advertising, that is what Uncle Simon is all about. He went after Maplethorp, Larry Flyntt, Too Live Crew, and other Rapper Groups, Sex Shop, Book Stores, Movie Theater, then why NOT the CL and CB. That is how Uncle Simon keeps his job. Go after easy Stat 's.
People keep voting for him. Yeaaaa! HE IS A N eX Marine. What do you expect?
You are right. It is just a Business, with very HEAVY Corporate Hands pulling the Whole Puzzle together.
The next urban renewal will be in Walnut Hills.
That areas is like Downtown Light. It have Eden Park, the Conservatory, Playhouse, and part off os Ingleside over look the River. East Walnut Hills.
They Want It Back!
MORE LATER. GOTTA GO!
Sorry about grammar and spelling, I was in a very big rush.
Mr Boombastic
11-21-07, 17:26
If you get a chance go to some of the Town Hall, Neighbor Meetings, and just take a listen to what is going on. You can get an EXCELLENT IDEA, of how the area is going and what to look out for.
I go to them myself, and I have been since the early 90's. Corporation often send Rep's to these Community Meeting/Forums, sometimes just to listen and take notes, other times give there positions on Community matters.
That always include Crime, Housing, Police, and a lot more. Going to a meeting you will hear times in which SW and Drug activity is Highest and Lowest. I have even seen some of the area SW's at the meetings just listening. That is being smart on their part. Still it is rare to see them there, Very Rare?
Better Yet !!! Find Know someone who goes to them and can tell you about what is going on. It really is a wealth of Good Information. By posting this I may have let the "Cat Out Of The Bag." I hope NOT, but it is something to consider, because times are very SW slow, and I don't see it getting better, unless we have a very Warm Winter.
People be very cautious in attending these meetings, because, new people really stand out, and only a hand full of people attend these functions. So you will be "noticed. "
Mr Boombastic
11-24-07, 15:20
Man, I was browsing though the GermanFKK section, and it is a damn shame how well they have it there than we do here. Look at the first forum page and it is loaded with video spots from German Style Bunny type places that really go the Extra Mile. Yea it is gonna cost money, but man talk about Euro Paradise. Check out the Brazil, Dom Rep. Cuba, Mexico, Costa Rico, just to start. Then Move back to Euro, Africa, then to Asia. GRRRRRREAT!
And of course AMSTERDAM! The SEXUAL Paradise for all Men!
I even found there clicks to You Tube, and on and on. And the attitudes are so very, very different. We spend that much damn time on chasing down Hookers, and trying to STOP Consenting Adults, to the excludsion of everything else. Look at this City, look at Uncle Simon, LooK at the UltraRightWing Underground in this City. All over SEX? Why SEX? If they poured this much attention into drug dealing they would find the real dealers that live in Indian Hills, who move the Major shipments around, the real Distributors, who hide in Corpporate Functioning Jobs, who have the Money, Lawyers, and Political contacts, and the Police Dept. 's that Help, Supply, Coordinate, Collect, and Protect Dealer. The real Cooruption of our Community. The things that NEVER WILL MAKE THE NEWS or NEWS PAPERS.
ALL THIS IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN "SEX"! And the Bible Thumper Keep rolling on. And we can't do a thing because we risk exposure. Even this forum especially is at risk with every post with ligit information on it. Before you can even move on the info, it is a part of the next Vortex Crack Down. And with the LE using the SW's out there to Snitch on Small Time Dealer, it is No Wonder more of them are NOT Ending up dead. That is a real F-ked Up thing to do, and then stick them right back on the streets with NO Protection.
Check out the Bust of SW's in Oklahoma City, and else where.
ANYWAY GO CHECK OUT THE INTERNATION GUIDE AT THE TOP OF THE PAGE/FORUM. It is really worth reading, and Joining if you can. When you see just how much more you can get, for you Dollars in another Country, and How Much More Beautiful the Women are, and how much better their attitudes are. You may NEVER Vacation in the USA again.
And "NO". Jackson did not put me up to this, not did he pay me for anything. I wish he would, or at least a Membership to the Photo Gallery.
STILL I CAN AFFORD THAT. I JUST WISH THE DOWNLOAD OF PIC's WERE EASIER. NOT LIKE THE FREE GALLERY ONE AT A TIME.
No need to responded back, You can PM me with comments.
I GUESS ENOUGH SAID. Little can be done about it?
I think I will plan a trip to the D. R. Or Brazil. Soon!
I been up in NY where the girls are plentiful and *friendly*.
Went thru Covington today and saw a 30's WSW on Madison. She was about 5-3, slim with long dark hair and a red jacket, said her name was Alice. She got in the car and we agreed to drive to a spot that she knew. We get to the spot and she starts in and keeps stopping and looking up. Finally she says she sees someone coming and we have to leave and find another spot. She then says she has to make a stop and will be right out. At that point I know I'm burned. She hopped out with my .20 and left me hung out to dry.
Anyone have any good tips on providers in this area? I'm willing to pay the extra price to get decent service.
Friday night I went cruising in OTR and there were very little LE in the area but also next to none for SWs. Did see a blonde SWs on Elm between Henry and McMicken but had to circle around down Race St. to go back. She was wearing a skirt and had hair pass her shoulders. It was dark and I almost missed seeing her but there were a couple of other cars going for her. I did see a truck coming up the small alley behind "Doug's Tires" shop to catch her at the lot behind the tire shop.
While I did drive around back from Race St. to see if she was there I noticed at the Church parking lot was a car parked where LE usually hangs out to watch at Race and McMicken. The car was a sliver SUV with a single woman driving. When I passed her car she turned on her head lights and the inside lights came on as well. She started to drive toward Elm St.
The blonde SW was gone but I drove on to Mohawk and Central and saw the woman in the sliver SUV again but didn't give it that much attention and left the area.
Saturday night about 10p I saw the same sliver SUV at the church parking lot by Race St. and a regular Cincy cruiser next to the sliver SUV! It looked they were talking to each other while sitting in their vehicles. I couldn't get a good look to see if it was the same woman or who was in the car but the car was the same from the night before.
I'm thinking that woman in the sliver SUV may be undercover. My spider senses were tingling. I thought some more about what I saw from friday night. When I passed the woman the first time I noticed she was watching the area toward Elm St. It was like she saw something and was going to follow the cars behind me that turned to the blonde SW. This was Friday night.
Saturday like I said the same car and LE together and I saw the blonde SW again but clearly on Elm. She had long hair pass her shoulders and the hair was teased to look puffy and full. You can't miss her. This time she was with a black guy and another small dark hair girl. I drove pass them and was going to circle back.
Spider senses were tingling when I saw LE at the church parking lot with that sliver SUV again. So I left the area and didn't go back to Elm St.
Saturday night had a lot of LE in OTR. There were cruisers at the Shell station and across the street at the empty parking lot on Liberty St. Also Sheriffs cruisers at Walnut and McMicken corner, Vine and McMicken and all the regular spots where SWs and dealers hang out except there was no one out.
Keep your eyes out on for that SUV in the area. I wished I've had followed her that Friday night to learn more about what she was doing.
Harpo2U
I see three right away...
1) NEVER front the $. MAYBE a token of your good faith, but not enough to give her satisfaction with "cash and dash."
2) Be VERY leary of "her place." If fact, you are lucky that the "someone" coming up was not her dude with a weapon to releave you of the rest of your wallet... Never go to "her place" unless you have gotten to know and trust her.
3) Never let them get out "to be right back..." Your experience already reviews that lesson for us. Say "No (firmly, with conviction), we'll go to another more isolated place." Keep control of the situation.
As per other posts, not only are functional digits hard to come by, but stings are apparently on the increase. Look though my previous posts for my 13 rules of Mongering 101 for steps for satisfactory mongering. The lessons reviewed her are there as well as other important lessons...
Giani
I been up in NY where the girls are plentiful and *friendly*.
Went thru Covington today and saw a 30's WSW on Madison. She was about 5-3, slim with long dark hair and a red jacket, said her name was Alice. She got in the car and we agreed to drive to a spot that she knew. We get to the spot and she starts in and keeps stopping and looking up. Finally she says she sees someone coming and we have to leave and find another spot. She then says she has to make a stop and will be right out. At that point I know I'm burned. She hopped out with my .20 and left me hung out to dry.
Anyone have any good tips on providers in this area? I'm willing to pay the extra price to get decent service.
Mr Boombastic
11-28-07, 22:06
I pose this because a few week ago, I drove pass a Blonde standing at Findlay and Elm, and as I looked closer, it was "NOT" a woman, but a Dude dressed in Drag. Mind you he was very well dressed, and looked very closely like a woman, but she was a he.
Now I did the double check because I was going to report it on the forum, but did NOT. I should have? As we walked pass on the other side of the street (he was on the store corner), and no one else/no one was around him. So of course we asked the people in the area, and they say it was Five-O. We Laughed and walked back to the car.
You asked who is "WE", well she is my paid informer. She gives me the 411, on what is going on, as she knows it. And she has been in OTR/WE all her life.
She recovered from Drugs, but HATE's what the Cops use to make her do in the back alleys to stay out of Jail.
I never saw the Silver SUV, or any bust that night, but we did find it extremely interesting that NO Fags were in the area of the Blonde. If that were a real WSW Fag the other Fags would have been right up there with him. It would have been no way those Fags would have allowed a real Blonde White SW to stand at their corner in their area and try away business. Even the real SW know the boundaries.
Even more they would have NOT allowed a White Drag Queen/Fag up in their area. The men who normally pick them up, would have bypassed them, to get to that White FgSW.
I did see the other FgSW up on Dunlap near the Kiddie Park. They were in full force, but did not venture to Findlay over the next (3) night during that time. I knew something was up, so I just went to a bar on Main and had a few Long Islands, by Myself. Even the Freebie Chicks were indoors at Home those nights too! DAMN!
Yea, Harpo something was up, but until now I did NOT Fully Know WHAT?
Once the Winter Cold hits, All Bets Will Be Off! IT wILL gET vERY sLOW?
To the Sheriffs. That are going to be Laid Off, join the Crowd and the rest of the real World/USA. We all get Laid Off at some point or other. At least it is a lay off and NOT a Pink Slip. At some point you will be rehired.
But don't try the Bully and Strong Arm Us to keep your Jobs.
Budget are being cut everywhere, and when Uncle Reagan started cutting the Gov. Money to Cities, to rebuild the Military. Well folks applauded the move, and the same thing is being done again. Money for the Cities is be used for the War. You gotta take your turn too! Last Hired, First Fired or Laid Off!
At Least, your job isn't going overseas or being imported from China.
Let the Damn Chinese "PAY" for the Jail, and "PAY" the rest of the TAX burden.
Let Wal-Mart give Uncle Simon, and the Commish what they need.
Let them DONATE, the NEEDED FUNDS for the Jail and to avoid the Lay Off.
THEY/WAL-MART's CAN AFFORD IT !!!!
Yea. Right!
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Live for Licken
11-28-07, 23:29
No surprize I guess - the Drury was one of the hotels highlighted on the Channel 12 report as a "haven" for "this kind of activity". We're probably in for a little cold spell (and I don't mean just the weather) but I figure hookin' is the world's oldest profession for a reason. It's outlived the Dark Ages, Reconstruction, the Plague, the Crusades and probably the Spanish Inquisition (Nobody expects the Spanish Inqusition!!!). I susepct it will outlive this.
Have a great day.
DzCheck out Channel 5 tonight..news about some more busts.
Can anyone PM me with info on who to lookout for now on CL and recommendations? I happen to know someone else on there, but not sure if they are now undercover b/c of a recent arrest and frequent CL ads. I do know they are hot in person and well groomed.
Streets are pitiful right now with the cold weather. By the way, saw black, or very dark plumbing conversion van two weeks ago near sheriffs. I could see black and white TV's though the window. They might have been setting up, or just watching over the plumbers. Since it was at night in OTR. Haven't noticed it again.
Also, not exactly sure why there is so little posting going on anymore. Are people scared about giving away too much info?
While in OTR this afternoon, my usual cruise route turned up NADA. Usually, I at least see a few SWs that are not worth stopping for. Nope.
But I DID see a Sheriff's cruiser in the parking lot across the street from the McM church with two deps in it... (had not seen them THERE before).
We KNOW the girls are still out there--I have gotten reports of NKY, WE, and even in the North burbs. Post your observations, but keep them non-specific (LE--you may have won this skirmish, but we have not shown the white flag...)
To the CL fans: Many of the same cautions apply on CL. They are usually too rich for my blood, asking too much for too little. But under no circumstances make ANY reference to quid pro quo until you have performed the LE check. Nothing over the phone (DUH). Then, get a clear understanding of what you would like, and what she expects. Again, NEVER front the $, and leave your valuables elsewhere. Check out my 13 rules of mongering posted previously--most of them apply to CL and escorts as well.
Giani
(P.S. If anyone has the time to search through previous posts to locate the 13 rules, I thank you in advance.)
(P.S. If anyone has the time to search through previous posts to locate the 13 rules, I thank you in advance.)
I think this is what y'all might be referencing.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=524144#post524144
Hope it works. Have a great day.
Dz
Mr Boombastic
11-30-07, 10:14
Is it possible that "Jackson" can put the #13 Rules in the Home Section to make the Universal to everyone interested.
In this way, you don't have to look them up in the archives to read them.
Posting them about every 3-4 months is a good idea, because this site picks up a lot of newbies every month.
But a permanent place for them in the Forum is much better.
Of course they will have to be cleaned up, to make them universal to every forum, but the "real" message will be the same.
ALSO ADD A #14th rule. Never ask for SEX right out. Ask her if she want to got someplace and take some, 'Nude Modeling Pictures".
Decoys will always say "No" to that and they can't arrest you because you made not offer for Sex, for Money.
Once the checks are done, you are feeling comfortable, and at "Your Spot", then you can talk details.
The Rules are really for Newbies or for Folks that just don't get it.
There are a lot of them, because I still see drivers talking through the window all the time, before the girls gets in to the car.
And folks are still getting ripped off for money.
It happens to everyone sooner or later, but the rules HELP. Once the RULES are a part of the Home Page, we can add to them as needed. Or at least submit a new rule to be added or voted on to be added, by the rest of the Forum, thus everyone has a part in it.
Thanks Dweezil--you da man! And Mr. Boomer is absolutely correct about all of us being burned at some time and another in this hobby. The lessons which taught me these 13 rules were not out of a book... I SHOULD write a book about the amazing adventures of this hobby. Especially amazing are the chances I have taken, with fortunately no serious physical or even robbery harm. But ripped off--yes--but not in the recent past.
Someone said the reason we see no SWs on the street is that they are all in jail. I can't believe that is the only reason. It is true that the hobby is at low tide at the moment, and with winter's icy fingers, the girls will be even harder to find on the street. Cultivate those digits and trustworthy providers.
Thanks Dweezil for the research and Bombastic for the words of encouragement. And yes, if I do NOT urge that no mention of any sex act be made until all relevant checks have been made, it SHOULD be in there. I like the idea of asking about nude photos--although many providers will say no to that without seeing it as a further test.
To all the lurkers out there: let us hear from you. ALL information is valuable and we are delighted to see new posters with info (and not just asking for specifics on their first post...)
Giani
I think this is what y'all might be referencing.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=524144#post524144
Hope it works. Have a great day.
Dz
I'm not very good with this site's search function, so I don't know if this has already been discussed. I was told by another SW, that the SW in LPH, named Jodi, has HIV. She is semi-short with shoulder length brown hair. Kind of dirty looking and has a crack problem. I've seen her walking around there lately the past few weeks. So if there is any truth to it. Be careful fellas. Saw a SW in OTR on McMicken west of Ravine. Decent looking from a distance. Pimp was close by so I drove past. I could tell she wasn't LE, but my better half tells me pimps are never a good idea to be around. My impression is that heavy LE on Race and McMicken is pushing their services in other directions. I'll have to stray more and see what I find. During the summer, I occasionly ran into some decent ones in UPH. Haven't seen any in the past month though.
Actually Sherri in LPH told me that Jodie "Jodi" has AIDS. She does look similar to the old pictures of McKenzie in Harpo2U's post in Escort Reports. The picture in the post was some time ago, and she is cracked out now, so it may very well indeed be the same girl. I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I'm not going to take a chance with that. Again, it could be a personal battle between Sherri and Jodie. Has anyone else heard anything like this?
Getnati brings up a couple of important issues.
HIV:
HIV is, and should be, of OBVIOUS major concern for mongers. This is why we ALWAYS use cover for FS. And we call other mongers on the carpet when they don't use FS cover because they are putting us all at risk, not just their dumb asses...
Oral transmission of HIV is extremely rare (if ever). So we may be willing to risk that pleasure with minimal risk of the "death penalty."
On the other hand, my caution is to avoid ANY providers who may be injecting drugs. VERY high risk. Look for "tracks" (bruises at their inside elbows), slow movement and slurred speech without obvious smell of liquor, nodding off, etc. These are MAJOR warning signs. In my opinion, getting off is not worth that risk. Furthermore, girls whom we have trusted in the past can easily go down the injection street. For instance, Rachel was a wonderful provider, but has apparently now succumbed to near terminal AIDS (in incarceration).
Inter-SW jealousy:
This can be potent beyond belief. SW social conventions can be beautifully supportive, caring and sharing. ON the other hand... I have heard SWs SO angry that I feared life-threatening violence. It is a different society you are dabbling in. Tread carefully, understand that critical words from one SW about another SW will unavoidably be tinged with prejudice at the very least. But I would take ANY mention of HIV seriously.
BE safe,
Giani
Actually Sherri in LPH told me that Jodie "Jodi" has AIDS. She does look similar to the old pictures of McKenzie in Harpo2U's post in Escort Reports. The picture in the post was some time ago, and she is cracked out now, so it may very well indeed be the same girl. I don't want to speak for anyone else, but I'm not going to take a chance with that. Again, it could be a personal battle between Sherri and Jodie. Has anyone else heard anything like this?
Sproket560
12-05-07, 02:53
Just wanted to share some intel for the greater good.
I've only seen a few CL girls and am fairly new to the hobby, so I haven't memorized all the rules yet.
Saw Layna recently. She goes by "Mason housewife", "erotic and busty", etc. She's a thick blonde girl with HUGE boobs.
Got to the room and she said her credit card was declined and the front desk needs her to pay cash. So I gave her the money so she could go down and settle the bill.
I know, I know, stupid newbie mistake.
Obviously she never came back. There's been several more reports on CL just this week about her ripping guys off.
So guys, beware, Layna seems to be a rip off.
I'm sorry to hear about the situation. Shes gonna run into the wrong person soon... Someone is gonna beat the F@#K outta her.
Just wanted to share some intel for the greater good.
I've only seen a few CL girls and am fairly new to the hobby, so I haven't memorized all the rules yet.
Saw Layna recently. She goes by "Mason housewife", "erotic and busty", etc. She's a thick blonde girl with HUGE boobs.
Got to the room and she said her credit card was declined and the front desk needs her to pay cash. So I gave her the money so she could go down and settle the bill.
I know, I know, stupid newbie mistake.
Obviously she never came back. There's been several more reports on CL just this week about her ripping guys off.
So guys, beware, Layna seems to be a rip off.
Just wanted to share some intel for the greater good.
I've only seen a few CL girls and am fairly new to the hobby, so I haven't memorized all the rules yet.
Saw Layna recently. She goes by "Mason housewife", "erotic and busty", etc. She's a thick blonde girl with HUGE boobs.
Got to the room and she said her credit card was declined and the front desk needs her to pay cash. So I gave her the money so she could go down and settle the bill.
I know, I know, stupid newbie mistake.
Obviously she never came back. There's been several more reports on CL just this week about her ripping guys off.
So guys, beware, Layna seems to be a rip off.
Yep it's a live and learn world. I saw a review on her somewhere (honestly can't remember where) that was really negative. It wasn't a cash and dash but the visit was bad for a variety of reasons - pic highlights her boobs and hides her gut, uninspired performance, didn't deliver on agreed program - that sort of stuff.
I'm sure Dr. Giani will have a comment or two on this one but I'll start with the usual - read the rules, live the rules. Sounds overworked but they make so much sense (especially when you're on the verge of letting the little head do the thinking with the big head). In this case, the right approach was to tell her "sorry, the money comes after I do".
Have a great day.
Dz
Thanks to my homeys Mr. Boomer and Dz who gave me an excuse to edit and repost my 13 rules of "Mongering 101." I have polished them a bit to make them more global.
These rules were developed from experience with SWs, but most of them apply well to escorts, and CL providers. One word about these two latter categories: They seem to me exorbitantly overpriced, and may STILL rip you off.
1) Only carry as much $$ as you are willing to lose... I always stash all valuables (my wallet, extra cash, cell phone, etc.) in a hidden spot. Carry a nearly empty monger's wallet.
2) Be VERY cautious if the "SW" on the street looks TOO good i.e., in MOST US cities, SWs do not dress in stilettos, leopard prints, or other obvious hooker outfits. It smells of a sting. I cannot repeat enough: Caution is the watchword. Tell little head to be quiet until after big head approves.
3) Do not call attention to yourself by making a show out of the stop (no U turns, no flagrant traffic moves). Catch her eye (she will be looking) and pull around the corner onto the next side street and let her come to you. (Do not keep your foot on the brake.) Alternatively, having caught her eye, go smoothly around the block, looking for LE.
4) When you pull up to her (have the door locked), be willing to drive away if your close up impression of her through the window is not good. (Sores, too thin, wired, dirty & stinky, sullen or "dead" eyes? SWs are NEVER as good as your first impression driving by...) Tell her you thought she was someone else.
5) Ask her if she needs a ride. She should immediately say "Yes" and hop right into the car. Do NOT negotiate through the window. The monger's first test for LE: stinging decoys will NOT get into the car. However, a caution, difficult to guard against: busted SWs, in order to stay out of jail, may be forced to serve as decoys. They MIGHT get into your car. But, if you refrain from discussing business until you are out of the neighborhood and make certain you are not being tailed, you should be OK.
If she insists on negotiating through the window, tell her you thought she was someone else, a friend, and split. Watch out for tailing LE.
6) Once she is in the car, IMMEDIATELY get out of the neighborhood. Local LE will stop and hassle you if they see a known SW in your car, my personal experience.
Get permission to feel her bare breasts to be SURE she isn't LE. She may grab your crotch to ensure that you aren't LE. Then get a crystal clear understanding of exactly what you want (covered or no, catch or no, swallow or no, etc) and for exactly how much (plus tip if satisfied). Extensive bargaining is a warning flag of a troublesome SW, and another reason to turn her out. Warning flags go up if the girl is willing to do FS uncovered. NEVER, dudes...
7) Go to YOUR location unless given a good reason not to. HER location may include a male friend of hers who will rip you off. If she refuses your spot, you have another reason to turn her out. Be especially cautious of locations where you have no easy exit. Be VERY leery of taking them to your home! You know the phrase “Come back to haunt you…”
8) NEVER, NEVER give up the $ before you are finished. You can pay a small token up front, but NEVER the whole amount. If she refuses, then “Thanks, but no thanks.” Once she has your money, she is in control. This includes fronting money so they can buy some "butter." Money in their hand may mean you will never get into their bush...
9) SW drug use can be a problem, but try to read what it might be. In my experience, crack (butter) leaves them still cogent, able to reason, and may make them more enthusiastic. On the other hand, heroin (dog food) addiction leads either to very dangerous situations, or makes them semiconscious—hardly satisfying. I see crack creating a dependency, but does not cause the kind of withdrawal that becomes an emergency for them. Crank can make them very horny--do not have direct experience. If they seem REALLY drugged up, it is another reason to turn them out. The difficult truth is that the vast majority of SWs do so to support some habit.
10) Do not let outside people get involved. No answering doors, no second girls, no nothing. You are asking for serious problems.
11) If confronted with a dangerous situation, do not get hostile or seriously argumentative. Tempers flair quickly, to what extent, you may not want to learn. You are in the underworld. GIVE IT UP. After all, you stashed your wallet, extra $$ and valuables elsewhere, right?
12) If you ARE ripped off, publicize the hell out of it on this board with as much descriptive detail as you can. Educate the rest of us about what mistakes you might not make again. Give a detailed description of the SW, her name, exactly where, when, how you connected. If you got a picture, post it!
13) Finally, try to get to know those SWs who ARE dependable. They can, and often are willing to advise you about dangerous, drugged out or HIV positive SWs. Remember however, even long-time dependable SWs should not have TOO much temptation placed in front of them--even they can "grab and run."
Stay safe--even if the thrill of the hunt is part of the deal.
The funny thing though is that most all of these rules came natural to me. I guess "street smarts" are paying off for myself. I feel bad for some of the people that don't know the basics. It all comes at you real fast, and you have to think quick, smooth, and smart.
. I've only seen a few CL girls and am fairly new to the hobby, so I haven't memorized all the rules yet.
Saw Layna recently. She goes by "Mason housewife", "erotic and busty", etc. She's a thick blonde girl with HUGE boobs.
Got to the room and she said her credit card was declined and the front desk needs her to pay cash. So I gave her the money so she could go down and settle the bill. Obviously she never came back. There's been several more reports on CL just this week about her ripping guys off. Sorry to hear about that Sproket. There were several red flags before you gave her the money. Also were you in the motel room when you met her or someplace near waiting? Reason I ask is because this "Layna" chick has been ripping off guys left and right. Lets put her out of business.
Thanks for being open about your experience and I do know how it feels to to ripped off like that. So I want to share and give you my pointers for hooking up with CL girls or any Service Providers you meet on the Net.
I've made connections with lots of Servicer Providers long before we had the internet and CraigsList. This was back in the days of Ads in newspapers and yellow-pages before I had gotten into the Net. I've had many successful hookups but had a few bad ones as well. Here's what I basically do to find a good escort service.
When meeting an "escort girl" from CL or web site or even an Ad from the backpages you call or email her you're interested in her services.
Talking on the phone is best and when you do tell her you are interested and like to know more about her service. Ask questions about massages and see if you can get a conversation going. You can get a feel if you want to meet this person. She can be real friendly and talkative or she might be short and rude. I've found this method did help in my decisions.
Very important: NEVER USE THE WORDS "SEX FOR MONEY" either on the phone or in emails.
The difference between escorts and cops is that an escort will avoid any conversation that the transaction is sex for money. A cop will try to get you to say that you are having sex for money. If the escort is using the words "sex for money" she is either very stupid, or she's a cop. If she is avoiding the words "sex for money" or any other similar agreements then she's probably OK.
You might want to call several escort services or independents to get familiar with what is being offered. Understand, though, that they might not be able to fully describe over the phone or in the emails what they do because they don't want to get busted by the law. In other words, if they say they offer "full female companionship, " or a "girl friend experience (gfe)" you're supposed to be sharp enough to figure out that you're going to get laid.
On the phone they won't likely give you a price list of what you get for what money, but you can ask questions like, If I have $200 on me, do you think that would cover everything or do I need to pay extra for tip? This will give you a ballpark idea of what you'll be paying. Make sure that there are no extra charges or what she ask for in her ads are just the cost of showing up. Very important to ask as many questions. If she doesn't like all these questions, tell her "thanks for your time but I don't want to be rip off and I'll find someone else". Be polite and gentlemanly when talking and you'll get better results when asking questions and she'll be better about you. Remember she doesn't want to get busted herself.
One common misconception about being busted is that you don't actually have to have sex for money to get busted. All you have to do is to agree to have sex for money. So either of you can get busted even if no sex or money changes hands. They do need to get it on tape though. So never say those words and she should never say those words.
She needs to know you're not a cop or a violent weirdo or someone who's going to be trouble. She also needs to let you know that she's expecting you to pay up front, but she can't ask you to give her money for sex, because that would be prostitution, and that's not what she does.
If you go to her place or to motel where she's at, there should be no reason she doesn't have a room all set up and ready to meet you. If that's not the case, walk away and don't say anything. Some ladies ask you to call from the car when you are outside, and others are happy to tell you in advance where you are coming. When you get to the door, knock on it. Don't stand around outside and be nervous. DO NOT cause attention. Look as if you belong there.
All legit service providers will want references and they do this in different ways so that you're not a cop or weirdo. You will have to refer to her site to know what she is looking for. This is a good sign that she's not LE herself.
Remember there are plenty of sites to check out the girls to see if she's a good provider or a rip off. Like TER is one of them.
Also you can use this site to check the phone or cell number to see if it's a cop line. You wouldn't believe the stings would use a number listed to some police stations. Here's the site to check numbers: http://www.anywho.com/qry/wp_rl
Once you are in and both know you're not LE is the money exchange.
When she opens the door, come in. Let her shut the door and then you can greet one another. Most of the ladies I know will lead from this point. Lay the envelope with the money on a table. Allow her to see it but do not make a comment about it. * Do not try to talk about services and what she is going to do for you. Just let the time you are together happen naturally. Again NEVER USE THE WORDS "SEX FOR MONEY". It's a legal thing: You're not really giving her the money for sex.
But. She should not get the money and then need to leave the room to get something. One thing that can happen is that she gets paid. Then says she forgot the condoms in her car. And then drives away. This can happen to you and there's not a lot you can do about it. But you should ask her to leave the money if she needs to go out of the room. This is a bad sign if she does.
However, many women don't buy the best condoms, so if you have a brand you like, buy your own and offer to use your condoms. It will save her from having to use one of hers. It will also avoid an awkward delay if she forgets to bring one and would otherwise have to leave and run to the store to get one. I always keep a tube of KY Jelly when I meet an escort. Lubrication is good. Although the escort is supposed to bring these supplies it's a good idea that you have your own. I've had several escorts show up and forget to bring things so don't count on them having their act together.
Once everything is fine, she will ask you if you want to "get comfortable. " This means "are you ready to have sex? " Your job now is to lead her to the bedroom and get naked. To protect herself legally, she will wait until the client is naked before she undresses. Then have a good time. If you had a good time, some guys leave a tip. That is your choice! It is a good way to show her you were happy with her services, and she will most likely remember you with a*SMILE the next time!
NOW about this Layna Rip off chick. Here is her number 513-546-6238.
In the past, some of us guys had a buddy that would watch the motel for us while inside with the provider. Then we would switch and do the same for the other guy. It's a good system and you have to trust each other and it works great.
Long post but I've cut it down as short as I could with the important points. In my opinion, Craigslist girls are a real roll the dice and better to find an independent with some good references. Right now anything under 2. 00 is not GFE and lousy service or worst a rip off scam. Do your research with all the info on the web there's no reason to find a great provider if you want to spend some serious money.
Last, here are Layna's pictures. I hope you guys call and tell her she is busted and post reviews at CL on her. Let all the CL girls know we don't tolerate rip offs and cash & dash.
Harpo2U
It Does Happen To Us All,
I got ripped off at one of the NOTELs years ago, after I finished with a young lady, who I gave money to for a second round. At the time cell phone were not as good as they are now so you had to go outside for a signal. Well she gave me that excuse and never returned.
Unfortunately she gave me her Home/Mothers number. So I decided to turn it in to the Cops Vice Squad. Her sisters were tricksters too. So, of course guess who got BUSTED .... Yea Right !!!! They all got 90 days at the JC. I saw her about 6 month later and she was totally run down. I waved and passed her by, as she was trying to get me to pick her up.
What I am saying is turning in the Escort Rip-Offs to Vice, "WORKS".
VICE DON'T CARE WHO THEY CATCH, as long as they catch someone, especially from the CraigsList. Do that if you are Mad Enough and Bold Enough. Some of the Escorts keep a Client Phone Numbers List. I had a Boyfriend/Pimp call me about one of his girls. So play it cool and don't manic if called. Just say "Wrong Number .... I don't know her ???
We might need a, Rip-Off Home Page, as well as a Rules Page. Then as these Escorts move people can see their patterns, and movements. These Girls do move around. Most times their past will run up on them, and money will slow.
Most of the time they are willing with a dude, because what they are doing is TOO DANGEROUS to do alone. Even if they are doing it with another Girl.
My Two Cents Worth .... Just Common Sense !!!!
Word
I think your post should be required reading for anyone contemplating going the route of escorts of CL:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=594047&postcount=731
Well laid out, and (as others pointed out), because it is common sense, once spelled out, it seems obvious (not only to newbies). But that is the essence of genius.
I WISH I had the resources to taste of the high priced spread (get it???). But you guys can give us all (even those of modest means) pleasure with your tales of tails in the escort trade.
Harpu2u: if you condense it down into bite sized rules, which lead with the "take home lesson" of each rule, you will be famous!
And Wordup!!! Great to see you posting after a long hiatus. We miss your street wisdom.
Giani
Gentlemen, I post from time to time when I feel I have something to contribute. I'm not a senior member but have exhanged emails and digits with a few of you in the past. Coincidently, I now find myself living in Nashville, however travel up to Cincy from time to time and partake in the sites as time permits.
I feel compelled to add my opinion to the unfortunate circumstances that befell our brother at the hands of the "blond buffalo". If I may quote The Godfather, "this,is the life we have chosen". We take the good with the bad and fortunately, a forum exists to share experiences.
The recommendations posted are quite helpfull. I have noticed that living in the center of the universe (Nashville), we have many more options to choose from regarding CL (the streets here are dead however). More attractive women, younger and greater numbers. Yes, the escort "tatanka" have move south friends. The quality is greater and the pricing is comparable.
Back to the situation at hand. In my experience, I feel it better to let the girl know you are in charge.
1 - I ask if the rate includes FS. Straight up...no kidding.
2 - I require the picturebe accurate
3 - I require the girl be "fresh" (they usually are anyways)
4 - I prefer incall to outcall. I am single and this is not an issue. Less chance law enforcement issues with incall
5 - I too, recommend having a buddy, in the event you have to outcall
6 - Once your "there" or she is "here", do the cop thing.
Check out the Nashville CL if you have some spare time. If any of you ever have the opportunity to pass through and need a sure thing, shoot me an email.
Good luck to all my former teammates. Be safe.
Is there a better route in NKY besides Madison?
Wouldn't laying an envelope down be an invitation for trouble? Especially with these CL escorts? Would most escorts demand for at least this to be done?
Wouldn't laying an envelope down be an invitation for trouble? Especially with these CL escorts? Would most escorts demand for at least this to be done?No, by laying the money on the table is what she expects.
The best way is to lay it on a table and have her pick it up rather than handing it to her. It's a legal thing: You're not really giving her the money for sex. You're paying her for her time and tipping her because she is a beautiful and attractive woman.
The escort may ask you "Have you used the service before?" She trying to determine what you know and what she's going to have to tell you about. If you've used other services before then let her know that so she knows that you understand the rules.
She needs to know you're not a cop or a violent weirdo or someone who's going to be trouble. This is what the professional escorts do and it also protects you from getting busted. It's all based on the law of what is Prostitution and what is simply an Escort service which is legal.
Escort services, unlike SW, are not in the business of taking money to provide only sex. Escort services provide a wide variety of services that are not sexually related.
But the sexual contact that does occur is usually not prostitution. In the escort service business, very little of the sexual contact can be classified as prostitution because it is done between consenting adults in the context of a relationship and other services which are not prostitution. This is how escorts can do what we like when we play be the rules and nobody gets hurt.
Hope this helps,
Harpo2U
How many folks out there use them. I can see from the post that it is more than I would have thought.
I guess that is due to the lack of decent SW's, on the streets.
I would image the quality to be far better too, because that, among other things is what you are paying for.
I just never found anyone in this area worth paying that kind of money.
Nor, have I been with many who want to give you your moneys worth.
I guess, if we had the same here as in lax, sf, nyc, and other places, I'd do escorts/CL.
Man I am just too thirty, to fork out that kind of money. Paying 25 for 15-20 minute is enough for me. I wish I could spend that kind of money for pleasure. But I just "refuse"!
The escorts in this area are found at the bars and clubs, especially the private clubs, and the ones in the CL advertising in this area seem to be more of a rip-off, or extremely unprofessional.
I have tried to try something else, but escorts and CL's just are not my "cup-of-tea". Well, not in this area. But, I do not discourage anyone else who wants to take the time to do them.
I wish we had an "open" page that we can list all "bad and rip-off" escorts that we can kept adding to without reposting it.
I guess we near an "escort / CL rip-off" thread, below the general thread. That might do the trick. Pun intended!
Giani, alway keep in touch indirectly. I am doing a little more reading of other forums for a little winter travel run. I have some vacation time and plan to revisit some of my old time favorite spots.
Our forum is impressive with the level of good general information given. I can see giani, harpo, dweezil, and others, really bringing the level good of information to our forum. Even outsiders are bringing it!
A friend of mine spent the night in jail recently as a result of an encounter in OTR. He says two good looking ladies approached him. (CAUTION flag goes up for two reasons: 1) they were TOO good looking, and 2) never take on two at a time unless you know both from previous encounters and have full faith... [Is that your little or you big head talking?])
The first apparent SW says, "Do you like big titties?" Sure he says. (Already--this conversation should NOT be held on the street or with "ladies" you do not know.) SW #1 says, "My friend gives the best BJs in the business..." I do not know exactly how he responded, but he DID spend the night in jail... Decoys ARE being deployed and are snagging incautious mongers.
My fellow mongers--the stings are still out there. PLEASE read the rules (or at least have your street smarts well honed.)
Pickings are still slim. MANY SWs I know are in the clink. Don't know the status of Operation Vortex, but LE still is laying traps galore.
Be careful out there,
Giani
Cautious Crazy
12-14-07, 18:00
I'm new to this site and this habit so please forgive me if I make ignorant or stupid sounding comments or questions. My biggest desire is to have FS with two women at once. How can this be accomplished in a safe and as risk-free as possible manner? Thanks for any advice I get. Also, is this possible in the AMPs? If so, is it still a necessity to be covered in the AMPs? If the 2 at once is possible in the AMPs, is there a certain one that you would recommend?
I am from the Chicago area, and we are lucky to have great establishments. Are there any around your area that you would suggest hitting. Please back channel me with the info!
I'm still a newbie at the hobby, but from what I've seen & done, the AMP route would be a little difficult for two girl action. Even FS with one would probably require more than one visit. After they get to know you, you could probably get it through to them what you want.
If I were you, I would check some escort sites, it would probably cost at least $$$, but they are pretty straight forward and give you an honest picture and limits to what you can expect.
EZ
If so, is it still a necessity to be covered in the AMPs?It is always a necessity to be covered. Period.
A friend of mine spent the night in jail recently as a result of an encounter in OTR. He says two good looking ladies approached him. (CAUTION flag goes up for two reasons: 1) they were TOO good looking, and 2) never take on two at a time unless you know both from previous encounters and have full faith... [Is that your little or you big head talking?])
The first apparent SW says, "Do you like big titties?" Sure he says. (Already--this conversation should NOT be held on the street or with "ladies" you do not know.) SW #1 says, "My friend gives the best BJs in the business..." I do not know exactly how he responded, but he DID spend the night in jail... Decoys ARE being deployed and are snagging incautious mongers.
My fellow mongers--the stings are still out there. PLEASE read the rules (or at least have your street smarts well honed.)
Pickings are still slim. MANY SWs I know are in the clink. Don't know the status of Operation Vortex, but LE still is laying traps galore.
Be careful out there,
GianiSorry to hear what happen about your friend Giani. His situation takes me back many, many years ago (pre-internet time) when the same thing happen to me in another city.
I was a real fresh newbie and was talking to what I thought was a regular SW. Like your report this SW was nicely dressed, clean blue-jeans and shoes with a expensive looking blouse. We talked but she never gotten in my car. She asked if I was looking for a "special friend" for tonight. I said "maybe but are you a cop? " She replied "no I'm not a cop" during this conversation she was looking around in the direction behind me. I then asked why she was wearing that beeper on her belt loop. She told me it was to call her "special friends". So we talk and she asked what would I like to do? I said I would like a BJ.
I want to break in on what was occurring above. I was breaking monger rules but at this point LE had nothing on me to bust me.
1: You can't assume just because a SW is good looking is LE. I've monger in many cities where the SW's were very hot looking like in Chicago and New York city. Here in OTR you need to exercise caution but 2 years ago there were plenty of good looking SW's running around OTR area and other places.
2: Asking a SW or any woman you meet anywhere for sex is not a crime. I'll repeat this again, "Asking a Woman for Sex Is Not A Crime"
Let’s look at what goes on in a typical bar on a Friday or Saturday night. Men go to bars looking to get laid. They are looking to have sex with a total stranger. This is totally legal. There are no laws prohibiting a person from having sex with total strangers.
Now back to what happened to me and why I got busted.
When this SW asked me what I wanted and I said a BJ she the asked me for how much? I didn't answered right away and then I asked her how much you charge? The conversation went back and fore like this for a few minutes. At which time nothing was happening. So I said to her. 20 for a BJ and that when LE came down on me.
IMPORTANT POINT HERE: When I had offered a money value to having sex that when I got busted.
Here is the Law 2907. 24 Soliciting No person shall solicit another to engage with such other person in sexual activity for hire.
The law defines prostitution as basically sex for money. The key word is HIRE for sex. If caught it is misdemeanor of the third degree.
At the time of the bust, LE will search you and your car for drugs and anything else to nail you with other charges.
Back then getting busted wasn't as bad as it can be now, especially in Cincinnati. Car is tow and impounded and court fine and possible time served in jail or doing community hours and then there is the John School you go for soliciting a Prostitute. Now I don't know exactly what does happen to you in Cincinnati but other cities have these steps you go through.
Giani, keep us updated on what happens to your friend. I hope he gets a lawyer for when he goes to court.
Also where exactly in OTR did this happen to your friend and what did the decoys look like? Very Important information to share for all.
Giani, I'm rewriting the post I did on Escorts and CL Girls. I like your idea to list a set of working rules to post and have to refer to like the monger rules.
Again everyone, like I said in my post 731 which I had said never talk money, never give a dollar amount, never said I'll pay this or any other way of stating money until you are positive that she is a legit SW or escort and not a decoy.
Long post but very needed or you'll end up like Giani's friend. Any questions or clarifications about this subject from anyone let me know. It's a tough situation to be in and I went through it. I got a lawyer and ended up paying a $ fine and $$$$ for the lawyer. I didn't do jail time or community service or John School and my car was never towed and importantly no record. Like I said that was a long, long time ago when courts weren't as tough as now.
Be Careful out there and keep your MO sharp and focus because LE wants as many bodies they can arrest and put in jail for money. It's a business.
Harpo2U
Sorry to hear about that Sproket. There were several red flags before you gave her the money. Also were you in the motel room when you met her or someplace near waiting? Reason I ask is because this "Layna" chick has been ripping off guys left and right. Lets put her out of business.
Thanks for being open about your experience and I do know how it feels to to ripped off like that. So I want to share and give you my pointers for hooking up with CL girls or any Service Providers you meet on the Net.
I've made connections with lots of Servicer Providers long before we had the internet and CraigsList. This was back in the days of Ads in newspapers and yellow-pages before I had gotten into the Net. I've had many successful hookups but had a few bad ones as well. Here's what I basically do to find a good escort service.
When meeting an "escort girl" from CL or web site or even an Ad from the backpages you call or email her you're interested in her services.
Talking on the phone is best and when you do tell her you are interested and like to know more about her service. Ask questions about massages and see if you can get a conversation going. You can get a feel if you want to meet this person. She can be real friendly and talkative or she might be short and rude. I've found this method did help in my decisions.
Very important: NEVER USE THE WORDS "SEX FOR MONEY" either on the phone or in emails.
The difference between escorts and cops is that an escort will avoid any conversation that the transaction is sex for money. A cop will try to get you to say that you are having sex for money. If the escort is using the words "sex for money" she is either very stupid, or she's a cop. If she is avoiding the words "sex for money" or any other similar agreements then she's probably OK.
You might want to call several escort services or independents to get familiar with what is being offered. Understand, though, that they might not be able to fully describe over the phone or in the emails what they do because they don't want to get busted by the law. In other words, if they say they offer "full female companionship, " or a "girl friend experience (gfe)" you're supposed to be sharp enough to figure out that you're going to get laid.
On the phone they won't likely give you a price list of what you get for what money, but you can ask questions like, If I have $200 on me, do you think that would cover everything or do I need to pay extra for tip? This will give you a ballpark idea of what you'll be paying. Make sure that there are no extra charges or what she ask for in her ads are just the cost of showing up. Very important to ask as many questions. If she doesn't like all these questions, tell her "thanks for your time but I don't want to be rip off and I'll find someone else". Be polite and gentlemanly when talking and you'll get better results when asking questions and she'll be better about you. Remember she doesn't want to get busted herself.
One common misconception about being busted is that you don't actually have to have sex for money to get busted. All you have to do is to agree to have sex for money. So either of you can get busted even if no sex or money changes hands. They do need to get it on tape though. So never say those words and she should never say those words.
She needs to know you're not a cop or a violent weirdo or someone who's going to be trouble. She also needs to let you know that she's expecting you to pay up front, but she can't ask you to give her money for sex, because that would be prostitution, and that's not what she does.
If you go to her place or to motel where she's at, there should be no reason she doesn't have a room all set up and ready to meet you. If that's not the case, walk away and don't say anything. Some ladies ask you to call from the car when you are outside, and others are happy to tell you in advance where you are coming. When you get to the door, knock on it. Don't stand around outside and be nervous. DO NOT cause attention. Look as if you belong there.
All legit service providers will want references and they do this in different ways so that you're not a cop or weirdo. You will have to refer to her site to know what she is looking for. This is a good sign that she's not LE herself.
Remember there are plenty of sites to check out the girls to see if she's a good provider or a rip off. Like TER is one of them.
Also you can use this site to check the phone or cell number to see if it's a cop line. You wouldn't believe the stings would use a number listed to some police stations. Here's the site to check numbers: http://www.anywho.com/qry/wp_rl
Once you are in and both know you're not LE is the money exchange.
When she opens the door, come in. Let her shut the door and then you can greet one another. Most of the ladies I know will lead from this point. Lay the envelope with the money on a table. Allow her to see it but do not make a comment about it. * Do not try to talk about services and what she is going to do for you. Just let the time you are together happen naturally. Again NEVER USE THE WORDS "SEX FOR MONEY". It's a legal thing: You're not really giving her the money for sex.
But. She should not get the money and then need to leave the room to get something. One thing that can happen is that she gets paid. Then says she forgot the condoms in her car. And then drives away. This can happen to you and there's not a lot you can do about it. But you should ask her to leave the money if she needs to go out of the room. This is a bad sign if she does.
However, many women don't buy the best condoms, so if you have a brand you like, buy your own and offer to use your condoms. It will save her from having to use one of hers. It will also avoid an awkward delay if she forgets to bring one and would otherwise have to leave and run to the store to get one. I always keep a tube of KY Jelly when I meet an escort. Lubrication is good. Although the escort is supposed to bring these supplies it's a good idea that you have your own. I've had several escorts show up and forget to bring things so don't count on them having their act together.
Once everything is fine, she will ask you if you want to "get comfortable. " This means "are you ready to have sex? " Your job now is to lead her to the bedroom and get naked. To protect herself legally, she will wait until the client is naked before she undresses. Then have a good time. If you had a good time, some guys leave a tip. That is your choice! It is a good way to show her you were happy with her services, and she will most likely remember you with a*SMILE the next time!
NOW about this Layna Rip off chick. Here is her number 513-546-6238.
In the past, some of us guys had a buddy that would watch the motel for us while inside with the provider. Then we would switch and do the same for the other guy. It's a good system and you have to trust each other and it works great.
Long post but I've cut it down as short as I could with the important points. In my opinion, Craigslist girls are a real roll the dice and better to find an independent with some good references. Right now anything under 2. 00 is not GFE and lousy service or worst a rip off scam. Do your research with all the info on the web there's no reason to find a great provider if you want to spend some serious money.
Last, here are Layna's pictures. I hope you guys call and tell her she is busted and post reviews at CL on her. Let all the CL girls know we don't tolerate rip offs and cash & dash.
Harpo2U
I saw Layna back in the summer time. She tried a cash and dash on me but since she came to my room I started right off with stripping her top off and sucking her big tits. I fingered her till she almost came then fed her some man-bone. This must have distracted her enough that she forgot to grab the cash I set on the far side of the room next to the window.
She grabbed her shirt and pulled it on and said she had to get some "condoms" from her car. Never saw her again, guess she forgot that I had not paid yet.
George W. Bush
12-18-07, 01:42
Never saw her again, guess she forgot that I had not paid yet.
That is fucking hilarious! She looks like she has a real nice pair, too bad she's the cash and dash type.
I am always glad to see new posters on the Cincy board, including yours. My only problem is that you included a VERY lengthy quote with your post which did not mention Layna, the subject of your post, except in the very last few paragraphs. (Yes, Harpo2u DID include some pix of Layna--thanks Harpo!)
The original post by Harpo2u was quite valuable, but your inclusion of the ENTIRE post was mainly annoying. Do you know that you can delete unrelated material from the post to which you are replying? We all would be grateful not to have to scroll down through multiple unrelated screens to see what the post is about.
From the resident curmudgeon,
Giani
P.S. Weren't you in fact replying to Sprocket's post:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=593361&postcount=726
This would have been the related quote to include.
P.P.S. If you act quickly, you can edit your post to delete the excessive quoted material. Merely click on edit at the lower right of the screen of your post. If you are successful at deleting the material, I will be happy to delete this entire post!
I saw Layna back in the summer time. She tried a cash and dash on me but since she came to my room I started right off with s tripping her top off and sucking her big tits. I fingered her till she almost came then fed her some man-bone. This must have distracted her enough that she forgot to grab the cash I set on the far side of the room next to the window.
She grabbed her shirt and pulled it on and said she had to get some "condoms" from her car. Never saw her again, guess she forgot that I had not paid yet.
Mr Boombastic
12-19-07, 14:22
This happened several years ago, and in review it is very strange compared to now and the way things are.
During the better days of hunting in Walnut Hills, I use to have a lot of luck around McMillian and Gilbert, down to Wm. Hw. Taft. At the Taft location there use to be a guy who would drive up and drop off from his car, a small two door car three to four girls to work the area. They were all Very Attractive, Sexz, and Well Dressed (in High Heels). At the time they wanted fifty for FS, and at the time that was very expensive for the area and time.
Of the ladies there was one thick, light skin young girl, about 5'3", and very attractive, with wavy hair to her shoulders. I found her to be to my liking and at the time I had to take the time. I decided to pay her price and we went to the area Notel for a room. She was everything I wanted and more, and had MAD Skillz in everything. And she had some of the Prettiest Legz & Feet, I had ever seen on any woman. We did the deed and I drove her back to the location. We exchanged numbers, and she went back to the car, and then waited around there for the next drive up.
I had seen her there at least three time before I finally picked her up. She was in great demand so one had to be FAST. They would be at any location according to her for 2 hours or less, according to the traffic up to them. I only got with the other girls with her every now and then, or as a threesome.
Now this all happened before the time of everyone with a cell, and giving out cell numbers. I noted that when she told me to call her, she always said ask for a certain person. Thinking that was her PIMP, I called after we had been together on the 4th time.
Here is the deal, when I called, it sounded more like I was calling an office, more than a persons home. I call the first time and asked for this person, and the person answering, told me they was NOT there, but I could leave a number for him. I was not leaving any number until I could know more. This happened twice, then I started calling from a Phone Booth, and leaving that number. I had a friend who had a phone booth at the corner of his house, and we could see it clearly from his porch. Anyway, never did anything happen.
When next I saw her she opps in questioning her, and I found out she never knew I called, and then said the place was a phone answering business. Well, I was not the only one of my friends who saw her/them from time to time becoz, they went to other locations too including OTR/WE/LPH. We talked about it because everyone got about the same results. So we called and asked for an Officer So-in-So, and the person answering told us that they did not have any officer here by that name, but they could give us another Officer. We were then shocked at what was going on. For a while we thought the Cops were trickin out girls.
I think it was a set up to get men to give a number, and set up a meeting, so they could then Tape you at their location and the arrest you. That sounds like Entrapment Big Time. I could not tell if anyone got trapped, but I left her/them alone after that. I know she was not trying to get people caught just on her/their own. Especially since we were playing them more than the average SW for that area and/or time. A few of us almost skipped up and gave that call back number. I think a few did, but they won't admit it, and nothing happened to them as I know of if they did.
That just seemed to be just an "EXTREME" form of trying to arrest men. I mean, how could they get away with it. A good Attorney would get the charges dismissed. They had to be hoping the Men would want to keep the situation "QUIET" and just take a plea, and pay a large fine, or other cost.
Has anyone else been Entrapped like this. This was before the CL was popular and before Jackson took over the another forum. I know now they would never set that kind of trap, or us real SW in that way.
Folks will get Seriously Hurt now.
And on the street, those girl would be Marked for Harm or Death. Remember the SW that told on the Police who was Stabbed, Shot, and then Burned and left for dead, for she did not die right away, according to the neighborhood grapevine, but die at the hospital. That is still Unsolved!
If you can't post your event, situation, circumstances, then PM me. I know people out there have been caught up in some weird and wild traps. Did you fight it, or just keep it low key and pay it out.
This has bother our group for years, trying to come up with what was really going on.
Please Feel Free to Add To It. Please Do.
Mr Boombastic
12-19-07, 14:51
This happened during the Late Spring of 2002, near the corner of Liberty and Walnut. One of our Local Attorney's was on the radio talking about defending a client, and having the charges dropped over the event.
A man was walking home from work which he did everyday, and one the the white police decoys was at the corner and approached him about getting serviced. He thought for a moment and they said "No Thanks." As he was walking aways she jumped in front of him again and made more offers. Each time he thought about it and she "No Thanks."
Then she tried even harder, and followed him down the street for a block, pass the bar on the left, near 14th or 15th street. After about 15-20 of trying to get him to agree, she finally got her price down to $5. He then said, here lady, I'll give you five bucks, if you need it that bad. No need for a Rain Check, just call it even. He gave her the Money and before he could get a half block away the Cops arrested him. CRAZY YES !!!!
The cops want him to plead out, but he would not and got a lawyer. The Attorney had to almost sue the cops for the tapes, even after asking for "Disclosure". The attorney was amazed after he heard the tapes, and asked for the charges to be dismissed. Of course they refused, because the Female Decoy had lied in her statements, regardless of the tape. Pressing the issue right up to Court, and over 10 plead offers for less, they finally dismissed the charges, only because Judge made them. Now, he is suing the CPD/HCSD for his arrest and jailing. That is just CRAZY .... and the man had NO Police Record, None ! They were willing to go just that far.
Oh by the way Nothing Happened to the Lying Female Officer, and the Lying Vice Squad Crew.
And to date No Apology from Anyone, for Anything. He will be getting an Out-of-Court Settlement. The amount was NOT givin. He will be able to get a New Car Now, instead of walking thanks to the CPD/HCSD.
Saw some new faces around on Elm St. Kind of wish I didn't though! Another thing, you can't really tell what their bodies look like underneath all of the heavy winter clothing. Maybe the city can put up heaters on the corners, like the kind you find around the valet stands!
The last time I was in town, I was down by State and W. 8th.
I used to work down in that area, and I was just driving around looking at the place I used to work. Since then I have moved to Detroit (proudly the most dangerous city in the country, Cincinnati eat your heart out).
I was heading on state pointing south and this nice little spinner asks for a ride, and says someone is chasing her. So she hops in the car and we take off up the hill towards PH. Did the check, agreed on a jackson and it was pretty good. No rush, no BS. The only thing that I could complain about was she had some acne and my fingers smelled a little funky.
I am back once again for the holidays and I will probably hit the streets and see who is crazy enough (besides me) to be out and about tonight. I expect little or nothing as Sinsinnati has too much time on it's hands worrying about the street action when the jail is already full. Why not worry about people that rob houses, kill people, and other stuff. Quite frankly it's one of the reasons I left. Detroit may be dangerous, but in all honesty it has WAY more to offer than Cincy. I am sad to say that, but with 3 casinos (all downtown) 1 in Windsor, 20+ strip clubs, a baseball, hockey, football, womens basketball, mens basketball teams, and so on, there is always something to do without leaving the city.
I miss my old town, but not enough to come back for good.
I hate to report this embarrassing situation of my friend but he had grown complacent in his hunting for SW and hadn't been burned in years. Tonight, however, was a different story. He picks up a SW named "Stacy". She says that she has a room at The Cove motel. My friend doesn't want to go there but the last time he spent a night there it was quite pleasant so eventually he gives in. She assures him that he can check the room out completely before anything happens. She says all her stuff is there because her house burned down and she is saving money to get her husband out of jail. So my friend goes into the room with the girl and indeed it does look like she had moved in there. The girl had previously stated that she had been living there for a couple of weeks. It did appear that this was the case. She asks my friend what he would like and he stated a BJ. My friend again did something really stupid and laid $20 on the table. She told him to lie down on the recliner. While he unbuttoned his pants a large Mexican came into the room claiming to wonder what the hell was going on. Of course, my friend immediately knew what was going on because he had read a similar story from a different city, maybe Dayton, not sure. The girl behind him locked the door. So instead of creating a ordeal out of this and possibly getting into an altercation, my friend took the remaining $15 out of his wallet and said it was all he had and the Mexican let him by. My friend never carries more than he is willing to lose and had a second wallet just in case. He was out $35 and didn't get harmed and lived another day to report his stupidity and the description of the girl to the rest of you mongers. Never ever let the girl chose the place. NEVER!
She and her Mexican thug are currently residing in The Cove room 111. It's the middle section and the room is located in the back right corner.
Description of the girl.
She is about 5'3" 140lbs. She is probably around 25 but looks much younger from a distance. She was wearing her brown hair back. She has a cute face. Her stomach is a little chubby and has good size breasts. If you pick her up and she insists on going back to a room, get her out of your car.
Mr Boombastic
12-26-07, 20:57
WeedMan, in this case your friend should have made an "A" call to Hamilton Vice or the area District Police, and reported them. Believe me, enough calls or complaints, and they will put a Snatch and Grab on them, with their own decoys.
People this ain't "SNITCHIN", this is a matter of Protection. You never have to give them Police a Name as long as you are not calling 911. So make the call.
Hell, I have done it many times and will continue to. And Yes, the cops do go after them. It is an easy arrest, and helps the stats.
If I am not mistaken, the Hamilton Sheriff is HELL on Mexicans up there. If that is an illegal, he will soon be paying more money (Your Friends Money) to recross the border. As for the girl her ass will be unprotected and left open to the folks she crossed paths with. She will be paying back more than Money.
VICE loves those calls where they can easily nab someone before a real incident happens, or even something worse. Hamilton has a bad enough reputation.
People make the call, look the Local number up in the Phone Book, go to a Pay Phone if you don't want to use your cell or home phone. Still, make the call, and turn their Asses in.
You will be doing the next guy a great favor as well as getting your own bit of satisfaction.
Still, you will be out of the money you lost. Can't get that Back!
I hate to report this embarrassing situation of my friend but he had grown complacent in his hunting for SW and hadn't been burned in years. Tonight, however, was a different story. He picks up a SW named "Stacy". She says that she has a room at The Cove motel. My friend doesn't want to go there but the last time he spent a night there it was quite pleasant so eventually he gives in. She assures him that he can check the room out completely before anything happens. She says all her stuff is there because her house burned down and she is saving money to get her husband out of jail. So my friend goes into the room with the girl and indeed it does look like she had moved in there. The girl had previously stated that she had been living there for a couple of weeks. It did appear that this was the case. She asks my friend what he would like and he stated a BJ. My friend again did something really stupid and laid $20 on the table. She told him to lie down on the recliner. While he unbuttoned his pants a large Mexican came into the room claiming to wonder what the hell was going on. Of course, my friend immediately knew what was going on because he had read a similar story from a different city, maybe Dayton, not sure. The girl behind him locked the door. So instead of creating a ordeal out of this and possibly getting into an altercation, my friend took the remaining $15 out of his wallet and said it was all he had and the Mexican let him by. My friend never carries more than he is willing to lose and had a second wallet just in case. He was out $35 and didn't get harmed and lived another day to report his stupidity and the description of the girl to the rest of you mongers. Never ever let the girl chose the place. NEVER!
She and her Mexican thug are currently residing in The Cove room 111. It's the middle section and the room is located in the back right corner.
Description of the girl.
She is about 5'3" 140lbs. She is probably around 25 but looks much younger from a distance. She was wearing her brown hair back. She has a cute face. Her stomach is a little chubby and has good size breasts. If you pick her up and she insists on going back to a room, get her out of your car.
I agree Boombastic. This is supposed to be business trasnaction. And what do people do when they have a hard time with a business...they call the BBB. In this case, the police are the BBB. You can remain anonymous as well. Turn their lousy asses in and keep it safer for all of us!
Fanofyours7
12-30-07, 22:14
I saw an ad at http: //citybeat.com/current/adult.shtml. The ad headline was BUSINESSMEN Private body rubs. I called the number and a very rude woman answered. That should have been my first hint. She was put off because I called her when she was at the bar. Another hint this wasn't a good thing. I asked for the rate of a massage for a Sunday and she told me she didn't know since she didn't know which ad I was looking at. I asked for directions and told her that it would take me roughly 30 mins to get there. She was horrible with directions. She wanted me to call her when I was on her street. She told me she was in a condo. Fifteen minutes into the drive and she calls me using a different number and asks where I am. I told her the drive takes 30 mins and I couldn't go any faster. Ten minutes later I get called again and this time she was using a restricted number. How many phones does she have! She told me that she didn't think I was going to show (25 minutes after the first inititial setup call) and she went back to the bar. She told me to get to her street and wait for her and that she should arrive in 10 minutes. Well I go to the street and while I was driving on it I called her and asked for directions. She asked me which street I was on and I told her. She told me it was the xx number driveway. She wouldn't tell me the condo/house number. Just wanted me to count the driveways to her place. Wait. These are all houses. What happened to the condo? I told her I had to turn around (which took about 60 seconds). She told me I was wasting her time and she was calling it off. This all occurred within 40 minutes of the setup call. She kept telling me I was wasting her time and she was very orderly and wanted everything to go smoothly. Anyway, I did a search on the other phone number she called me at and I found another ad. Here is the URL:
http://www.classifiedads.com/services-ad601926.htm
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