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JohnnyHead
12-09-15, 03:28
Let us know how it went with the duo. I couldn't get through.Ok, Waiting to hear that someone actually seen the duo.

The messages I got offering the twosome dreams were called out as fakes.

Chic replies and says "My name is Sydney are*why, I'm aa, 140 and cute".

I requested a pic and got zero response since.

BaRock
12-09-15, 07:26
I emailed her a few weeks ago asking if she was going to coming to town any time soon. She said she wouldn't be coming back because she couldn't make any money.

Apparently she got a lot of no shows and cancelations. I do hope she comes back. I never got a chance to see her.The first time I saw Molly a few years ago, I think it was her first trip to RVA. She was upset that she had had so many cancellations and no call, no shows. That hour with her turned out to be only pretty good, as she was obviously turned off. For some reason, I decided to see her again on a later visit and had a super time, so I have seen her whenever she visits. Sounds like we have worn her down. Keep your appointments, guys.

BaRock
12-09-15, 07:41
Which ever one has the best oral skills.Karmen's BBBJ was only so-so, she seemed to fear getting splooge-mouth. But wow what a body, I could spend more time admiring her artwork. She's kinda cute for a hooker, so I'll give her another try, since a ben for thirty minutes is not too bad. It bothered me a bit that there were so many guys sitting parked in vehicles around the neighborhood. I imagine the line down the hall in whatever hotel she and Syd are in is like one for a theme-park ride on a weekend in late spring.

Member #5055
12-09-15, 11:27
Hope they are saving their pennies for a good lawyer after Uncle visits them soon -- they are WAY too high profile for me to go anywhere near them!


It bothered me a bit that there were so many guys sitting parked in vehicles around the neighborhood.
I imagine the line down the hall in whatever hotel she and Syd are in is like one for a theme-park ride on a weekend in late spring.

RichmondVa
12-09-15, 12:15
Hope they are saving their pennies for a good lawyer after Uncle visits them soon -- they are WAY too high profile for me to go anywhere near them!I have seen them both separately on numerous occasions but wanted to see "Karmen" again yesterday, made an appointment hours in advance. When I showed up her previous client was still there. I circled the neighborhood a couple of times and did notice 2 separate vehicles just up the street from her house with guys in them messing with their phones. I don't know if they were other mongers waiting in line or just a coincidence. I didn't hang around long enough to find out. Both of these girls are cute with great bodies but I agree that it may be getting a little to risky to visit. Being she lives in a cul-de-sac the neighbors have to wonder what is going on with all the traffic. An outcall with her coming to me may be the only option for a while. Careful fellas!!

BillyBob99
12-09-15, 12:51
I have seen them both separately on numerous occasions but wanted to see "Karmen" again yesterday, made an appointment hours in advance. When I showed up her previous client was still there. I circled the neighborhood a couple of times and did notice 2 separate vehicles just up the street from her house with guys in them messing with their phones. I don't know if they were other mongers waiting in line or just a coincidence. I didn't hang around long enough to find out. Both of these girls are cute with great bodies but I agree that it may be getting a little to risky to visit. Being she lives in a cul-de-sac the neighbors have to wonder what is going on with all the traffic. An outcall with her coming to me may be the only option for a while. Careful fellas!!Have seen her a few times and also have come out of door to find the next guy already sitting in car waiting for text to enter. Kitty has always been good but I now skip BBBJ its like she has never even seen it done much less tried it! Maybe time to move on before LEO is parked watching waiting too.

Good hunting- be safe out there.

Richmond Mas
12-09-15, 13:09
Hope they are saving their pennies for a good lawyer after Uncle visits them soon -- they are WAY too high profile for me to go anywhere near them!I am glad I had the opportunity to see both when they were still UTR, Of course some rookies have to post their real names and address here so LEO can catch up with the news.

I have to lay low with them. I love to see Karman again as she is the kind of girl I like to hang out with, but with all tese girls parking around just just too rishy for me.

Even if they have a hotel now doing duo, I am still scared. Call me chicken, but I value my name. How would you like to have your name on the news and while hanging out with he mayor?

They are so hot I cannot touch. I mean hot as in hot merchandise.

Richmond Mas
12-09-15, 14:16
Ok, Waiting to hear that someone actually seen the duo.

The messages I got offering the twosome dreams were called out as fakes.

Chic replies and says "My name is Sydney are*why, I'm aa, 140 and cute".

I requested a pic and got zero response since.I have been in this hobby for so many years I cannot even count. So don't bull shit a bull shitter.

That's how you build credibality. When you bull shit people we will know. Especially us old dogs. Let it go.

PassinHoes
12-09-15, 14:38
I figured its a nice day out for December. . . All the hoes should be out. No luck.

MrJosh85
12-09-15, 14:50
I have seen them both separately on numerous occasions but wanted to see "Karmen" again yesterday, made an appointment hours in advance. When I showed up her previous client was still there. I circled the neighborhood a couple of times and did notice 2 separate vehicles just up the street from her house with guys in them messing with their phones. I don't know if they were other mongers waiting in line or just a coincidence. I didn't hang around long enough to find out. Both of these girls are cute with great bodies but I agree that it may be getting a little to risky to visit. Being she lives in a cul-de-sac the neighbors have to wonder what is going on with all the traffic. An outcall with her coming to me may be the only option for a while. Careful fellas!!Couldn't agree more. This is exactly what I said about Emily in SP; when I went, there were guys doing you-turns and driving by slowly, just generally sketchy. In a nice / decent neighborhood no one minds their own business, so it's only a matter of time before a phone call is made.

I just have Syd do outcalls, and would love to meet Karmen, but high traffic hotel rooms or cul-de-sacs if definitely bad news. Not worth the chance, which right now I would say is fairly high.

Quads
12-09-15, 15:35
Who RichmondVa is. That's the person that outed one of the duo's name. I dunno who outed the other. The entire time I thought it was someone New but he's a SM. Am I really late or nobody actually knew?

JohnnyHead
12-09-15, 15:35
I have been in this hobby for so many years I cannot even count. So don't bull shit a bull shitter.

That's how you build credibality. When you bull shit people we will know. Especially us old dogs. Let it go.Maybe wrong post for me to challenge that soneone had actually seen the dynamic duo together. My point is there is a fake Syd out there under a xxx-xxx-3562 number sending invitations to an upscale notel. LOL.

Enjoy.

RichmondVa
12-09-15, 16:11
Who RichmondVa is. That's the person that outed one of the duo's name. I dunno who outed the other. The entire time I thought it was someone New but he's a SM. Am I really late or nobody actually knew?I am not sure what the point of your post was but to fill you in, when the girl now known as karmen started this she did use her real name. Someone on here made a post about a new girl to which I replied that she was not new. Simple as that! She then asked for her name not to be mentioned so I went and removed it from the post. Whats the problem? I have not outed anyone ever on this board. If you would like to discuss this further via PM then okay but no need in filling the board with stupid worthless post accusing a contributing member for contributing info!

RichmondVa
12-09-15, 16:16
I am not sure what the point of your post was but to fill you in, when the girl now known as karmen started this she did use her real name. Someone on here made a post about a new girl to which I replied that she was not new. Simple as that! She then asked for her name not to be mentioned so I went and removed it from the post. Whats the problem? I have not outed anyone ever on this board. If you would like to discuss this further via PM then okay but no need in filling the board with stupid worthless post accusing a contributing member for contributing info!Both of these girls used there FB associated email addresses when they first started so anyone and everyone who communicated with either of them know their real names. Still wondering what the point of you attempting to call me out is.

FishOn85
12-09-15, 17:20
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BobLevel44
12-09-15, 17:57
Hope they are saving their pennies for a good lawyer after Uncle visits them soon -- they are WAY too high profile for me to go anywhere near them!I'll wait to see them again until after the holidays when things cool down.

MyBudFang
12-09-15, 18:14
I'll wait to see them again until after the holidays when things cool down.These girls are just way too popular, going to be some serious LEO activities.

On another note, a while lit of LEO, fire dept, and medical at one if the motels on midlo, about 1630 today, don't know why.

Quads
12-09-15, 19:42
People were trying to figure out who started all the drama. You say you didn't release the name of the girl but all you did was * out 2 letters man. Even in your own post you said she didn't want her info out there. And you did it anyways. People asking who started it like it was some newbie but it was you, now everyone scared and they complaining and it started with your post man. It's not a big issue. Own up to it, apologize and move on. Your acting you did nothing to invade their privacy baffles me.

Member #5008
12-09-15, 19:46
Just leave them both alone for god's sake. What's wrong with you guys.

RichmondVa
12-09-15, 19:52
People were trying to figure out who started all the drama. You say you didn't release the name of the girl but all you did was * out 2 letters man. Even in your own post you said she didn't want her info out there. And you did it anyways. People asking who started it like it was some newbie but it was you, now everyone scared and they complaining and it started with your post man. It's not a big issue. Own up to it, apologize and move on. Your acting you did nothing to invade their privacy baffles me.Whatever dude.

Richmond Mas
12-09-15, 20:21
She will be visiting Richmond on the 15 and 16.

http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/475/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/10924-Bedroom-Barbie-Will-Be-Visiting-Friends-In-Richmond-12-14-12-16-PREBOOK-NOW-.html

I asked her to post on the usaadultclassified so everyone can search for her.

I have know her for a while and she is a good woman to deal with. Mention usasexguide and you will get a discount she said.

I will see her on the 14th in Charlottesville.

Have a good time guys.

Member #5162
12-09-15, 20:22
This whole drama is why we shouldn't be posting personal information such as names. It's also to not help uncle. I think we all need to sit back and let the attention die down. Not try to point fingers or try to argue. But move on to new topics. This has spooked them badly. And we don't want to do that to providers. It ruins things for all involved. It makes this site less viable and less reliable. Just my $. 02 sitting and watching from the sidelines.

BobLevel44
12-09-15, 20:26
She will be visiting Richmond on the 15 and 16.

http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/475/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/10924-Bedroom-Barbie-Will-Be-Visiting-Friends-In-Richmond-12-14-12-16-PREBOOK-NOW-.html

I asked her to post on the usaadultclassified so everyone can search for her.

I have know her for a while and she is a good woman yo deal with. Mention usasexguide and you will vet a discount sbe said.

I will see ber on the 14th in Charlottesville.

Have a good time guys.Another ATF coming back to Richmond before Christmas. I'm going to be broke for sure, LOL!

Richmond Mas
12-09-15, 20:59
Another ATF coming back to Richmond before Christmas. I'm going to be broke for sure, LOL!Just kidding always covered with full service. She said deep discount for sr. Members. Is not going to be as cheap as the Henrico spinner but cheap enough for a taste.

Nice tone bo and great kisser gave a mean bbbjcimws. 6 pack ab. She told me she gain a little bit of weight because some mean dude said she was skin and bone. Hmm hmmm good.

CollegeGirl
12-09-15, 21:48
I just wanted to personally thank the individuals who contributed to all of the posts about me.

I wish you all the best Merry Christmas.

Grafenberg
12-09-15, 22:45
Holy heck, looks like a bunch of you guys got infected with the drama that surrounds most of these ladies. Watch out for the purses swinging, there's going to be a bunch of keys, lipsticks and tampons all over the place!

Virginia Guy
12-09-15, 22:58
Holy heck, looks like a bunch of you guys got infected with the drama that surrounds most of these ladies. Watch out for the purses swinging, there's going to be a bunch of keys, lipsticks and tampons all over the place!Must be the pressure of the holidays getting to everyone.

BobLevel44
12-09-15, 22:59
Just kidding always covered with full service. She said deep discount for sr. Members. Is not going to be as cheap as the Henrico spinner but cheap enough for a taste.

Nice tone bo and great kisser gave a mean bbbjcimws. 6 pack ab. She told me she gain a little bit of weight because some mean dude said she was skin and bone. Hmm hmmm good.BB is not going to be covered with bruises and picking scabs either. Can't wait for the fun to begin.

TheMarto1
12-09-15, 23:17
I mean they can ask for 1000 or 10000 for hour but what kind of fun can they give? I have a date for 1 k once and other of nice skin I did had any another special thing they are only women poo and pee and sweat like any women the performance and thinks like age and sice of kitten makes the difference how this one 30 or 35 why / o can compare with a20's or a spinner you can make wear a dress to a monkey and ask for 400 for qv and have same fun vs this one also why she ask for I'd how a kind of climinal will ask for I'd if she wants to swim she has to get wet whata parasites


Another ATF coming back to Richmond before Christmas. I'm going to be broke for sure, LOL!.

Richmond Mas
12-09-15, 23:38
One member contacted me once to see if BB does feet worship. I didn't know then. She texted me last night said she is up to feet sucking and fucking.

I personally have not and will not worship anyone's feet. If this member is still here text me so I can set it up with Barbie. She is interested.

If you want to deal directly with Barbie she is expecting you. Go for it. I asked for a discount for you so you dont have to pay the full adission fee.

I can do titties as she has the best looking titties around but feet is not my thing.

Fubar69
12-09-15, 23:46
Another ATF coming back to Richmond before Christmas. I'm going to be broke for sure, LOL!And hear I thought I was going to save some of my bonus this year. Oh well, here's to a white Christmas.

SteelRod
12-10-15, 00:28
She will be visiting Richmond on the 15 and 16.

http://usaadultclassifieds.info/classifieds/475/posts/1-Independent-Escorts/1-Independent-Escorts/10924-Bedroom-Barbie-Will-Be-Visiting-Friends-In-Richmond-12-14-12-16-PREBOOK-NOW-.html

I asked her to post on the usaadultclassified so everyone can search for her.

I have know her for a while and she is a good woman to deal with. Mention usasexguide and you will get a discount she said.

I will see her on the 14th in Charlottesville.

Have a good time guys.With all the prime affordable pussy in the RVA area. Good luck to her asking 400 Hr. Just my $0. 02.

Marqeis
12-10-15, 00:52
With all the prime affordable pussy in the RVA area. Good luck to her asking 400 Hr. Just my $0. 02.She quoted me 150 hh and 200 hr when she was in Richmond couple of months ago. Its so funny to see this doubled where others are dropping the rates.

Member #5162
12-10-15, 07:32
I mean they can ask for 1000 or 10000 for hour but what kind of fun can they give? I have a date for 1 k once and other of nice skin I did had any another special thing they are only women poo and pee and sweat like any women the performance and thinks like age and sice of kitten makes the difference how this one 30 or 35 why / o can compare with a20's or a spinner you can make wear a dress to a monkey and ask for 400 for qv and have same fun vs this one also why she ask for I'd how a kind of climinal will ask for I'd if she wants to swim she has to get wet whata parasites

.I read this a bunch of times and am still having trouble figuring out what you meant. Barbie does request a lot but she is different. Sure you can elsewhere for a lot less. But with Barbie you get someone who is clean, respectful, someone who cares about you getting off and making each time special. She doesn't kick you out the door because your time is up. She asks for verification for her safety. Also, to try to make sure that you are who you say you are. With her, you're getting a new and unique outfit and time spent only on you.

Member #5008
12-10-15, 08:09
OK -- OK -- I will work on her!!Better yet get Bedroom Barbie to the vacation house. How much parking space do you have LOL.

BedroomBarbie9
12-10-15, 09:13
I'm sorry but you were not talking to me when you received those quotes. I've only been to Richmond twice this year. There is a girl that stole my pictures and has run multiple ads in Richmond / Cville and the entire DC area all year. That's a big reason why I changed my contact info. Sorry for the confusion but you weren't talking to me and if anyone ever sees a BP ad for Bedroom Barbie here please don't respond to it, I only post on usasg classifieds and P411 XoXo I hope all of you enjoy your holidays =).


She quoted me 150 hh and 200 hr when she was in Richmond couple of months ago. Its so funny to see this doubled where others are dropping the rates.

Member #5055
12-10-15, 10:34
You organize it -- there is plenty!!


Better yet get Bedroom Barbie to the vacation house. How much parking space do you have LOL.

Richmond Mas
12-10-15, 18:26
You organize it -- there is plenty!!He said no smoking. Do all tbe risky businesses you want but no smoking.

Anyway barbie said she would do 2 guys at one time if anyone is game or can handle her that is. Count me out of that. I go the traditional venue.

Hot Alyse had one video out when she was younger and she did 3 big ass guys at a time. wonder if bb can handle all three like she could.

Todays Nooner
12-10-15, 19:05
You organize it -- there is plenty!!Might as throw a full on Meet & Greet party.

Marqeis
12-12-15, 01:54
I'm sorry but you were not talking to me when you received those quotes. I've only been to Richmond twice this year. There is a girl that stole my pictures and has run multiple ads in Richmond / Cville and the entire DC area all year. That's a big reason why I changed my contact info. Sorry for the confusion but you weren't talking to me and if anyone ever sees a BP ad for Bedroom Barbie here please don't respond to it, I only post on usasg classifieds and P411 XoXo I hope all of you enjoy your holidays =).Thanks for making it clear that it was not you. The problem here in this hobby is we never know who we are going to see until the door opens, the problem with all the providers or most of them post all fake pics. 99% on BP are in my opinion are fake. I myself had to return many times after driving 1-2 hours even in Chancellorsville, DC or even places like NYC.

Thanks for making it clear, I hope to see you when you're in Richmond. But your quotes are really high for the city like Richmond, may be that's why you don't come here often.

JayBird76
12-12-15, 09:21
Might as throw a full on Meet & Greet party.If a get together happens with the guys from this site and a few ladies, count me in.

Stormiesky
12-12-15, 15:41
I don't know if this is the right area but I've been getting alot of texts from some guys that refuse to give me a handle. If you are referred to me then I neec the handle. I have given up my picture rule for everyone on this site but I refuse to go fully blind intp a situation. Just a reminder: no handle, no meet. Have a wonderful weekend!

Sky.

Ltnric
12-12-15, 23:11
If a get together happens with the guys from this site and a few ladies, count me in.For those in the know Ave X used to have parties. I went to one and it was great. No more parties but if one does arise count me in as well LOL.

JayBird76
12-13-15, 10:40
Last saw Sarah on JD, she was in a trailer park. Trailer split into 3 sections. She offered BJ for 20 and FS for 30. I could tell that she was bad off, but was actually a good looking chic if she would have been not addicted to who knows what. Anyways, I e seen her for a qv for a covered BJ. Anyone seen her recently etc? I've text and emailed but hadn't heard back. That trailer was in a rough spot, so I only went once. Was hoping my car would still be there when I left.

MollyDaniels
12-13-15, 11:27
You organize it -- there is plenty!!If there is a party at my winter play-house, I better be invited!

A duo partner of mine is wanting to tour see-ville / Richmond, so I might make the trip if winter ever gets here. Where the f*ck is the snow? Vail is expensive.

SJena2013
12-13-15, 14:43
She is on vacation now.


Last saw Sarah on JD, she was in a trailer park. Trailer split into 3 sections. She offered BJ for 20 and FS for 30. I could tell that she was bad off, but was actually a good looking chic if she would have been not addicted to who knows what. Anyways, I e seen her for a qv for a covered BJ. Anyone seen her recently etc? I've text and emailed but hadn't heard back. That trailer was in a rough spot, so I only went once. Was hoping my car would still be there when I left.

JayBird76
12-13-15, 18:39
She is on vacation now.Thanks, last time I saw her she was looking pretty rough but I could see tha she's a good looking chic if she was without her habit. Thanks. Maybe the vacation will help her get strait.

BobLevel44
12-13-15, 21:01
If there is a party at my winter play-house, I better be invited!

A duo partner of mine is wanting to tour see-ville / Richmond, so I might make the trip if winter ever gets here. Where the f*ck is the snow? Vail is expensive.Molly dear, we need you to hurry up and get here!

Member #5841
12-13-15, 22:35
Without publicly naming names a SM here already does various themed parties several times a year.


Might as throw a full on Meet & Greet party.

Tdog69
12-13-15, 23:47
Went to City to check on a friend, who know I think got busted. I ran into a fine ass light skinned nicely built black or latina. I mean nice ass decent top shoulder length curly black hair. Definitely not a SW. She was getting her stuff out of a red car Florida tags I think. Expecting to see her post on BP / CL soon. I should have got her info but the drug dealers started checking me out a little too much, so I left.

Member #5414
12-14-15, 10:34
Went to City to check on a friend, who know I think got busted. I ran into a fine ass light skinned nicely built black or latina. I mean nice ass decent top shoulder length curly black hair. Definitely not a SW. She was getting her stuff out of a red car Florida tags I think. Expecting to see her post on BP / CL soon. I should have got her info but the drug dealers started checking me out a little too much, so I left.http://richmond.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexii-and-sweet-n-ready-2-meet/16536972

If it was this chick don't waste your money. Horrible attitude.

Tdog69
12-14-15, 13:33
http://richmond.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/sexii-and-sweet-n-ready-2-meet/16536972

If it was this chick don't waste your money. Horrible attitude.The chick I saw similar hair better body, but hey could be it was dark.

Member #5055
12-14-15, 14:53
Well you did suggest it a couple of years ago Molly -- just confirm a date with me and I am sure we can have a party.


If there is a party at my winter play-house, I better be invited!

A duo partner of mine is wanting to tour see-ville / Richmond, so I might make the trip if winter ever gets here. Where the f*ck is the snow? Vail is expensive.

Tdog69
12-15-15, 08:59
The chick I saw similar hair better body, but hey could be it was dark.She had a tramp stamp.

BareBackJack
12-15-15, 10:40
I'm like to reconnect with Sky. Not the one that posts here but the one that hung around Chamberlayne last fall and then had a room in an apartment on Midlo. I'd heard she was busted but was supposed to get out in August, then September. Well now it's December and I'd really like to wish her a Merry Christmas. Anyone know her where abouts? Jack.

Todays Nooner
12-15-15, 18:33
Without publicly naming names a SM here already does various themed parties several times a year.That's cool. Please add me to the invite list!

Ltnric
12-16-15, 00:08
That's cool. Please add me to the invite list!Put me on that list as well LOL. God I miss those parties.

Virginia Guy
12-16-15, 10:23
I haven't tried Syds friend Karmen. Can someone share her digits, rates and menu via PM? I wanted to compare and see who is better .

Richmond Mas
12-16-15, 17:10
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JayBird76
12-17-15, 13:32
Visit with Little Lisa today was great. She's offering good service without breaking the bank today. If you have her number and time, today's a good day to save. She's off Brooke road in nice location. Trusted members can inbox me, but don't come empty handed.

Member #5414
12-17-15, 14:36
Visit with Little Lisa today was great. She's offering good service without breaking the bank today. If you have her number and time, today's a good day to save. She's off Brooke road in nice location. Trusted members can inbox me, but don't come empty handed.Lmao at the "don't come empty handed" comment. She's a sweet person but she's damn near 60. Just give them the number without asking for anything in return. Not like she's anything special.

JayBird76
12-17-15, 15:04
Lmao at the "don't come empty handed" comment. She's a sweet person but she's damn near 60. Just give them the number without asking for anything in return. Not like she's anything special.Thank you for your opinion. None of these girls are anything special as far as I'm concerned.

TowMan75
12-17-15, 16:46
Saw her for 1st time today. Fun little chick. Very accommodating. Worth the trip great value.

Preggo1995
12-17-15, 20:00
I'm looking for some pregnant girls, it's a kink of mine. I love the big belly. The farther along, the better.

Salvaone
12-17-15, 21:16
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Lisa can make an account and post an ad on the new site.

A2

Lone Wolf
12-18-15, 19:47
New girl Bre is looking for help today, she is hoping someone will get her a room for the night so she can work from there, here current living situation is with her mom.

Looks 7 Skills 8 tight shaved kitty. Pics are her I can share contact info with seniors or those I trust.

Quads
12-19-15, 17:15
So what's the proper move when a bf or husband or pimp of a girl blows up your phone threatening you? I've never had this happen before so I wanted to touch base with the board. I went back and forth in the beginning but soon realized the girl been to my place LOL, so I quit once I realized that.

Lone Wolf
12-19-15, 17:49
So what's the proper move when a bf or husband or pimp of a girl blows up your phone threatening you? I've never had this happen before so I wanted to touch base with the board. I went back and forth in the beginning but soon realized the girl been to my place LOL, so I quit once I realized that.Never take them to your house. And as for threats I have a tendency to ask them where they want to meet usually ends the drama, if they are really that intent do what you feel is best, either way if she has beem to your place you can be sure he knows where you are too.

Grafenberg
12-19-15, 18:34
Never take them to your house. And as for threats I have a tendency to ask them where they want to meet usually ends the drama, if they are really that intent do what you feel is best, either way if she has beem to your place you can be sure he knows where you are too.No doubt, I would never do an outcall to my home. Getting a room at a notel is worth the cost. I don't like the idea of a car date because they can get your info from your license plate. Just because you're paranoid, doesn't mean they aren't out to get you.

Quads
12-19-15, 21:33
Never take them to your house. And as for threats I have a tendency to ask them where they want to meet usually ends the drama, if they are really that intent do what you feel is best, either way if she has beem to your place you can be sure he knows where you are too.So it's actually kinda funny. Before I checked the forum I told him to come on over and we can settle it and he responded "you ain't worth it" and hadn't texted back. LOL. Case closed. She called me from another number apologizing and I told her to delete my number and don't ever call. Guess he found out his Ol lady is a pro and flipped out. Thanks for the advice though fellas.

Richmond Photo
12-21-15, 22:34
So what's the proper move when a bf or husband or pimp of a girl blows up your phone threatening you? I've never had this happen before so I wanted to touch base with the board. I went back and forth in the beginning but soon realized the girl been to my place LOL, so I quit once I realized that.Never let it get that far. Even if you win the fight you lose.

MyBudFang
12-21-15, 23:27
Never let it get that far. Even if you win the fight you lose.First thing is, he is doing it more for his benefit, he is mad, but not man enough to go face to face, he yells for a few, she says that's enough, they go away.

If a they were really wanting to do something, you would never know it till its too late.

TruthMan
12-22-15, 08:51
So it's actually kinda funny. Before I checked the forum I told him to come on over and we can settle it and he responded "you ain't worth it" and hadn't texted back. LOL. Case closed. She called me from another number apologizing and I told her to delete my number and don't ever call. Guess he found out his Ol lady is a pro and flipped out. Thanks for the advice though fellas.Don't respond anymore to him. I will be careful with her because he might force her to set you up to do harm to you. She might not want to but we all know how men can intimidate women.

Richmond Guy
12-22-15, 17:39
See my report in the Streetwalkers forum.

Visit these young ladies at your own risk. I shall not be sharing their digits again.

TravelersTl1
12-23-15, 08:24
One of my new favorites is Christy. She is very open minded and actually seems to enjoy the play time. Her head game is exceptional. She isn't a young spring chicken but I find her attractive and nice to be around. She has never rushed me and I will be seeing for a long time to come. She works out of a trailer that she lives in with her kids so she is only available during school hours.

TravelersTl1
12-23-15, 08:34
Little Lisa deserves some positive reviews. She is definitely a spinner and has an excellent head game. She likes to roll play. She never rushes and has a very pretty kitty. I always enjoy my visits with her. She is on my occasional visit list.

TravelersTl1
12-23-15, 08:44
I met Dee recently at her place. She actually wears a diaper! !! She has some sort of medical need for it that she says is related to a tumor in her head. She is probably in her early forties. She talks really dirty and offers diaper fantasies for you sick perverts. LOL. She is thin and head game is decent.

JayBird76
12-23-15, 08:45
Little Lisa deserves some positive reviews. She is definitely a spinner and has an excellent head game. She likes to roll play. She never rushes and has a very pretty kitty. I always enjoy my visits with her. She is on my occasional visit list.I agree 100 percent. Yes there are younger and prettier girls out there, but she's extreemly nice and you will spend a fraction on her compared to the others. I've had my share of working ladies, but she's my go to and doesn't leave me broke. Nice kitty and best BJ I've had.

TravelersTl1
12-23-15, 08:47
Has anyone seen the white mellow personality Paris or Nina that has the best head game ever?. Or know of someone that is just as good.

BiffSteel
12-23-15, 10:58
I have to agree with Travelers about Christy and Lisa. Both provide good unrushed service and both are really eager to please. I would give a slight edge to Lisa because her location is a lot more convenient for me and Christy has a somewhat limited availability but you can't go wrong with either one.

Member #5414
12-23-15, 11:52
But don't agree with the great head game. Maybe I'm bigger than what she's use to but I had to stop her because she kept using too much teeth.

I've never seen Christy though so can't report on her but wouldn't mind seeing her if she has a good head game.

TravelersTl1
12-23-15, 13:53
I have been seeing Gina almost daily since her return. She is staying away from midlothian area. She has a stalker that worries me about her safety that claims to be a church guy that is trying to "save" her. And has sent me over 200 texts from a group text that Gina sent out to several of us after her first vacation. He is obsessed. I guess we all are to an extent but with him it is scary. I have her info and can share but I will be careful who I share with and everyone else that has or gets her information please do same. Never give her room number in your PM for now. Just cell. BTW his phone ends in 77.

She is hot as ever and still very open minded.

Richmond Photo
12-23-15, 14:25
I have been seeing Gina almost daily since her return. She is staying away from midlothian area. She has a stalker that worries me about her safety that claims to be a church guy that is trying to "save" her. And has sent me over 200 texts from a group text that Gina sent out to several of us after her first vacation. He is obsessed. I guess we all are to an extent but with him it is scary. I have her info and can share but I will be careful who I share with and everyone else that has or gets her information please do same. Never give her room number in your PM for now. Just cell. BTW his phone ends in 77.

She is hot as ever and still very open minded.There is no reason to be obsessed with these working girls. They are working and even as tempting as they seem to be, they are no one's girl. I tried contacting Gina several time and there wasn't any response. Business must be good.

Tidad
12-23-15, 14:38
I have been seeing Gina almost daily since her return. She is staying away from midlothian area. She has a stalker that worries me about her safety that claims to be a church guy that is trying to "save" her. And has sent me over 200 texts from a group text that Gina sent out to several of us after her first vacation. He is obsessed. I guess we all are to an extent but with him it is scary. I have her info and can share but I will be careful who I share with and everyone else that has or gets her information please do same. Never give her room number in your PM for now. Just cell. BTW his phone ends in 77.

She is hot as ever and still very open minded.That guy is a trip. I finally had to block him. I second the Gina praise. ATF.

Random420
12-24-15, 05:50
Just had one ask me to front her over $$ and she'd work it off. Black Santa had to tell her "NO-NO-NO!" LOL! I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Pussy coupons are hard to cash. Always read the terms and conditions my dudes!

BiffSteel
12-24-15, 09:33
Just had one ask me to front her over $$ and she'd work it off. Black Santa had to tell her "NO-NO-NO!" LOL! I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Pussy coupons are hard to cash. Always read the terms and conditions my dudes!LOL, yeah it's been my experience that they hard to redeem.

Richmond Photo
12-24-15, 19:59
Just had one ask me to front her over $$ and she'd work it off. Black Santa had to tell her "NO-NO-NO!" LOL! I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Pussy coupons are hard to cash. Always read the terms and conditions my dudes!They are prepaid pussy card. These kind of cards from my experience are not redeemable. They only works one way you pay and you lose.

One girl from Charster called me. Said need a roof over her head for a night. Begging and crying. I gave in at the end. Claiming I will redeem it the nextday. Guess what? No answew.

PobodyNerfect
12-25-15, 14:51
Merry Christmas fellow.

Hobbyist.

ThrillHouse
12-25-15, 15:21
Merry Christmas fellow.

Hobbyist.Cheers, mate!

JohnnyHead
12-26-15, 15:45
They are prepaid pussy card. These kind of cards from my experience are not redeemable. They only works one way you pay and you lose.

One girl from Charster called me. Said need a roof over her head for a night. Begging and crying. I gave in at the end. Claiming I will redeem it the nextday. Guess what? No answew.I have only had one honor it. But she did it as a pro rated discount per next several visits. I was ok with that. I actually liked it that way.

PassinHoes
12-26-15, 19:15
Ugh. Skip Paris. Big butt, but her kitty smelled. The head was so so.


Has anyone seen the white mellow personality Paris or Nina that has the best head game ever?. Or know of someone that is just as good..

Tidad
12-27-15, 11:53
Does anyone know about the late 20's early 30's blonde cutie panhandling at Jahnke and Hioaks? I saw her this morning and was in no position to make contact; she looks world-weary but much cutier than one might expect. I plan to carve out some meet and greet time soon.

Colgado
12-27-15, 16:16
Does anyone know about the late 20's early 30's blonde cutie panhandling at Jahnke and Hioaks? I saw her this morning and was in no position to make contact; she looks world-weary but much cutier than one might expect. I plan to carve out some meet and greet time soon.She has been there for the last two weeks or so. I was driving by with my SO and she was sitting at that very corner with a guy. He kept making eye contact with me and then looking at her. She was just staring forward holding the sign. I know what he meant, however, like you, I could not stop. Worth a try. Is that dude still with her?

Hunted13
12-30-15, 23:42
Anybody else catch that odd email today? I'm pretty skeptical, but it wouldn't be the craziest thing I've ever read.

SJena2013
12-31-15, 11:31
For those who remember my reviews about Katie, she is back and I am willing to exchange her info for another young white spinner. She is in her twenties and wild in bed.

Omar.

DTbjlvr
12-31-15, 12:37
Anybody else catch that odd email today? I'm pretty skeptical, but it wouldn't be the craziest thing I've ever read.Any chance it had something to do with two spinner type girls that have been know to work together? If so I got mine earlier in the week. Two of my friends got the same message, on other days, one of which is a senior member here. And yes the deal is genuine and I've know one of them for about a year.

Richmond Photo
12-31-15, 19:11
Any chance it had something to do with two spinner type girls that have been know to work together? If so I got mine earlier in the week. Two of my friends got the same message, on other days, one of which is a senior member here. And yes the deal is genuine and I've know one of them for about a year.Are you talking about email? Pm? Or texting. They are all different. I received all three forms of communication from different girls. What are you talking about?

MathMan
12-31-15, 19:55
Hey fellas!

I have a 45 yr old, slightly beat, used, and worn, good provider. Staying at a notel off Brooke rd. She is strickly utr.

White, decent body, not fat, she's a 45 yr old mom, that's what she is. Loves her job. Will do anything. Total freak.

Pm if you want the digits.

Its That Guy
12-31-15, 20:40
What's so crazy about it LOL? Just curious. I didn't get anything.

Hunted13
01-01-16, 03:55
Anybody else catch that odd email today? I'm pretty skeptical, but it wouldn't be the craziest thing I've ever read.It was an email from UTR Emily, claiming the FBI had an open investigation and they would be contacting me and or the others it was sent to.

Sgt0001
01-01-16, 08:33
I saw her several times the other day while it was raining. She was there for quite a while alone, bundled up and with an umbrella. She had a crate and some bags (too much to load into a car if she got a date). I saw her later with a guy. She and that guy have been there and at the McDonalds on Midlo for a couple months or so. They put in some long hours, and always have a bunch of baggage (crates, & bags) with them. I think the weather (Sun, wind, rain) has taken a toll on her skin. I don't think she is working as a provider, just hoping for handouts.

DTbjlvr
01-01-16, 11:20
Are you talking about email? Pm? Or texting. What are you talking about?My bad, mine was a text, not an email. My first post and it was a F* up. Still I think / know some of you got it.

And nothing to do with the FBI.

Richmond Photo
01-01-16, 18:25
My bad, mine was a text, not an email. My first post and it was a F* up. Still I think / know some of you got it.

And nothing to do with the FBI.You are refferring to the package deals the duo has to offer. I got the fbi email as well. I delted it fast it was from emily. My atf.

Grafenberg
01-01-16, 19:00
It was an email from UTR Emily, claiming the FBI had an open investigation and they would be contacting me and or the others it was sent to.Hell of way to ring in the new year.

BaRock
01-02-16, 04:20
It was an email from UTR Emily, claiming the FBI had an open investigation and they would be contacting me and or the others it was sent to.Does it appear to be an extortion attempt? I didn't get the email but have communicated with Emily via phone and email many times, so if she's working something on clients, I could be on that list. She sure didn't seem the type, but junkies aren't rational.

MrJosh85
01-02-16, 04:44
You are refferring to the package deals the duo has to offer. I got the fbi email as well. I delted it fast it was from emily. My atf. There's no way it was the FBI, unless she was involved in children or trafficking. No way.

Mankind99
01-02-16, 05:47
There's no way it was the FBI, unless she was involved in children or trafficking. No way.One of the girls I see says she has had the FBI visit her. Said theirs a child sex ring in the area and they are visiting girls to look for children in the rooms.

Member #5008
01-02-16, 08:13
One of the girls I see says she has had the FBI visit her. Said theirs a child sex ring in the area and they are visiting girls to look for children in the rooms.A child sex ring in the area? I hope they catch those scumbags.

Old Sergeant
01-02-16, 16:15
I had a dream about Heather and her spinner room-mate in Chester near Willis Rd. On New Years Eve on my lunchbreak.

For those who don't know Heather, well she's about 5"10 150 lbs small breast and a tight kitty kat, her head game skills are on point.

We'll I had this dream with her o New Years Eve at 9 pm, she answers the door in her underwear, her room mate is on the second bed in her underwear, she says she'll get dressed and leave! I say Hell No your in this dream too. So we all get undressed, I lay back and both ladies start taking turns making my little man happy, once I'm up and hard, Heather put the rain coat on me and she climbs on top and goes for a ride, her room mate kisses all over me from head to toe, I begin to shake, the little spinner reminds Heather not to let me bust, Heather gets off and the spinner roommate climbs on Cowgirl style and she gets her ride, she nice and slow, the spins and faces me and tells me to let her know before I erupt, she picks up speed and before I bust I let her know, she gets off, pulls off rain coat and catches all the cream.

Heather gets a rag and cleans me up.

Before I wake up both girls remind me not to be shy, I can have another dream with them separately or together.

The damage was only $ for both of them, yes $ for both, the dream lasted 45 minutes and I was given an invite to return for individual attention or 2 for $.

Old Sergeant.

Richmond Photo
01-02-16, 19:26
A child sex ring in the area? I hope they catch those scumbags.I read BP ads daily and I saw nothing of the kind- child sex ring. Did you see any unsual ads? I didn't.

Had I saw that I would report to be sure.

Creepy Creeper
01-03-16, 04:43
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Mankind99
01-03-16, 10:43
I read BP ads daily and I saw nothing of the kind- child sex ring. Did you see any unsual ads? I didn't.

Had I saw that I would report to be sure.They might not even be using BP who knows just telling you what a working girl relayed to me.

Member #5414
01-03-16, 11:39
I had a dream about Heather and her spinner room-mate in Chester near Willis Rd. On New Years Eve on my lunchbreak.

For those who don't know Heather, well she's about 5"10 150 lbs small breast and a tight kitty kat, her head game skills are on point.

We'll I had this dream with her o New Years Eve at 9 pm, she answers the door in her underwear, her room mate is on the second bed in her underwear, she says she'll get dressed and leave! I say Hell No your in this dream too. So we all get undressed, I lay back and both ladies start taking turns making my little man happy, once I'm up and hard, Heather put the rain coat on me and she climbs on top and goes for a ride, her room mate kisses all over me from head to toe, I begin to shake, the little spinner reminds Heather not to let me bust, Heather gets off and the spinner roommate climbs on Cowgirl style and she gets her ride, she nice and slow, the spins and faces me and tells me to let her know before I erupt, she picks up speed and before I bust I let her know, she gets off, pulls off rain coat and catches all the cream.

Heather gets a rag and cleans me up.

Before I wake up both girls remind me not to be shy, I can have another dream with them separately or together.

The damage was only $ for both of them, yes $ for both, the dream lasted 45 minutes and I was given an invite to return for individual attention or 2 for $.

Old Sergeant.I wouldn't mind checking her out.

TravelersTl1
01-06-16, 11:59
Saw Christy today. All I can say is total satisfaction. She knows what it takes. Best head game in business.

Member #5414
01-06-16, 13:29
Saw Christy today. All I can say is total satisfaction. She knows what it takes. Best head game in business.Someone was trying to compare her and Lisa and it's not even close. Lisa location is far better but driving 20 minutes extra to see Christy is more than worth it for me.

TheMarto1
01-07-16, 00:05
Wandering if could you give more details


I had a dream about Heather and her spinner room-mate in Chester near Willis Rd. On New Years Eve on my lunchbreak.

For those who don't know Heather, well she's about 5"10 150 lbs small breast and a tight kitty kat, her head game skills are on point.

We'll I had this dream with her o New Years Eve at 9 pm, she answers the door in her underwear, her room mate is on the second bed in her underwear, she says she'll get dressed and leave! I say Hell No your in this dream too. So we all get undressed, I lay back and both ladies start taking turns making my little man happy, once I'm up and hard, Heather put the rain coat on me and she climbs on top and goes for a ride, her room mate kisses all over me from head to toe, I begin to shake, the little spinner reminds Heather not to let me bust, Heather gets off and the spinner roommate climbs on Cowgirl style and she gets her ride, she nice and slow, the spins and faces me and tells me to let her know before I erupt, she picks up speed and before I bust I let her know, she gets off, pulls off rain coat and catches all the cream.

Heather gets a rag and cleans me up.

Before I wake up both girls remind me not to be shy, I can have another dream with them separately or together.

The damage was only $ for both of them, yes $ for both, the dream lasted 45 minutes and I was given an invite to return for individual attention or 2 for $.

Old Sergeant..

TheBigness
01-07-16, 12:57
Is it just me or is it pretty dry north of the river? I haven't seen a lot of posts for anything on Brook Rd or near Ashland in a while.

Member #5008
01-07-16, 13:48
That guy is a trip. I finally had to block him. I second the Gina praise. ATF.I had a dream about Gina this morning for the first time. You guys are right. What a nice lady. I can't wait to dream about her again.

Old Salt 93
01-07-16, 15:12
Hey fellas!

I have a 45 yr old, slightly beat, used, and worn, good provider. Staying at a notel off Brooke rd. She is strickly utr.

White, decent body, not fat, she's a 45 yr old mom, that's what she is. Loves her job. Will do anything. Total freak.

Pm if you want the digits.His description is spot on accurate, certainly not the shiniest car on the lot, but oh what a ride. Enthusiastic is an understatement. Rate was reasonable, but not quite as low as advertised. Still a decent value. Massage skills are average at best, but she tries hard and attitude counts. She's either a world class actress or really, really, enjoys her work. Outcalls available after the first session.

YMMV, but I expect to repeat.

Hungre123
01-07-16, 16:01
Looks like there's been a lot of bad action at the midlo notel. It's made the news twice in a week, first for a robbery and this morning for a shooting. Scary, as I not long ago visited a ex-local favorite there. I'd steer clear of that place for awhile. Personally I think I'm done with that whole area, Just not worth it which is to bad as I go for trashy white spinners which That seems to a area where they congregate.

MathMan
01-07-16, 20:47
Yup. I keep a black book. An old fashion spiral ring book with notes just like Columbo.

2015 in review:

Total out of pocket cash. 3433.87.

Shop Rags at Costco: 14.33 <-why use paper towels or Kleenex?

Atm foreign fees: 124.50.

Street walkers: 2,970.00.

Craigslist girls: 130.00.

Highly Recommended: 195.04*.

**That provider and I agreed on two hundred. On the way over I stopped and got her a box of smokes. I should have another line entry of "gifts" that I bring such as, sodas, waters, candy, food. My best guess in this category is less than 50.00.

I had 39 providers in total. A total of 74 scoops. On average a single cost average pop, = 46.40.

Been in the business over 20 years. 68,660. 00 How depressing!

2016 is already projecting to be a banner year!

MathMan
01-07-16, 20:59
I haven't seen Shannon on JD near terminal since before Christmas. Does anyone have info?

A monger gave me contact number of Little Lisa. Her reviews are spotty. What's the damage she usually charges for qv?

Lastly, Old Salt is the only one who has given feedback on my referral. It was very cool to read his report. I gave that utr number out to north of 40 of you mongers. One feedback report. That's a 0. 025% return on my time answering emails.

Please pm me if you have answers to my above questions.

I love you guys and this forum. Mathman, out!

JayBird76
01-07-16, 23:55
I haven't seen Shannon on JD near terminal since before Christmas. Does anyone have info?

A monger gave me contact number of Little Lisa. Her reviews are spotty. What's the damage she usually charges for qv?

Lastly, Old Salt is the only one who has given feedback on my referral. It was very cool to read his report. I gave that utr number out to north of 40 of you mongers. One feedback report. That's a 0. 025% return on my time answering emails.

Please pm me if you have answers to my above questions.

I love you guys and this forum. Mathman, out!Sent Ya some info. Take care.

MulchMan
01-08-16, 05:54
Yup. I keep a black book. An old fashion spiral ring book with notes just like Columbo.

2015 in review:

Total out of pocket cash. 3433.87.

Shop Rags at Costco: 14.33 <-why use paper towels or Kleenex?

Atm foreign fees: 124.50.

Street walkers: 2,970.00.

Craigslist girls: 130.00.

Highly Recommended: 195.04*.

**That provider and I agreed on two hundred. On the way over I stopped and got her a box of smokes. I should have another line entry of "gifts" that I bring such as, sodas, waters, candy, food. My best guess in this category is less than 50.00.

I had 39 providers in total. A total of 74 scoops. On average a single cost average pop, = 46.40.

Been in the business over 20 years. 68,660. 00 How depressing!

2016 is already projecting to be a banner year!You may want to consider using a spreadsheet. It allows me to track unique SBs / providers and total number of visits. In 2016 I will add a column for total cost. Probably don't want to know how much I spend. Good luck in 2016.

Jd2005
01-08-16, 11:25
What has been your experience with her? Is she still rushing you? Just wondering what your experience has been? I'm done with her now, not worth the effort.

Still Looking
01-08-16, 11:48
I haven't seen Shannon on JD near terminal since before Christmas. Does anyone have info?

A monger gave me contact number of Little Lisa. Her reviews are spotty. What's the damage she usually charges for qv?

Lastly, Old Salt is the only one who has given feedback on my referral. It was very cool to read his report. I gave that utr number out to north of 40 of you mongers. One feedback report. That's a 0. 025% return on my time answering emails.

Please pm me if you have answers to my above questions.

I love you guys and this forum. Mathman, out!I tried to get with her this morning. She blew me off with I'll get back to you. Never did. Can't say I didn't try. Have not given up yet. Thanks my friend.

CantWinLosin
01-08-16, 15:05
Stood me up.

I called mid-morning and we made early-afternoon plans, at which time she gave me the general area and said she'd text me the address. Nothing. After about 30 minutes I texted her, with no response. Since I'm nearby, I went ahead and went to the crossroads at the appt time and called, no answer, then waited 10 minutes and tried again, no answer, so I gave up.

Now, I use Google Voice, so anything is possible, but I've never had call or texting problems with it before. So I assume she bailed on me.

Tidad
01-08-16, 15:21
Stood me up.

I called mid-morning and we made early-afternoon plans, at which time she gave me the general area and said she'd text me the address. Nothing. After about 30 minutes I texted her, with no response. Since I'm nearby, I went ahead and went to the crossroads at the appt time and called, no answer, then waited 10 minutes and tried again, no answer, so I gave up.

Now, I use Google Voice, so anything is possible, but I've never had call or texting problems with it before. So I assume she bailed on me.I had a very similar experience, great on the phone then a no-show.

Hunted13
01-08-16, 15:57
Anyone know of anywhere worth stopping in the western part of the state? I've got to drive out to a conference in Harrisonburg in a couple weeks, and was thinking about going a night early and getting a room either there or somewhere along the way. Anyone with suggestions, either pm or reply.

CantWinLosin
01-08-16, 16:52
Yup. I keep a black book. An old fashion spiral ring book with notes just like Columbo.

2015 in review:

Total out of pocket cash. 3433.87.

Shop Rags at Costco: 14.33 <-why use paper towels or Kleenex?

Atm foreign fees: 124.50.

Street walkers: 2,970.00.

Craigslist girls: 130.00.

Highly Recommended: 195.04*.

**That provider and I agreed on two hundred. On the way over I stopped and got her a box of smokes. I should have another line entry of "gifts" that I bring such as, sodas, waters, candy, food. My best guess in this category is less than 50.00.

I had 39 providers in total. A total of 74 scoops. On average a single cost average pop, = 46.40.

Been in the business over 20 years. 68,660. 00 How depressing!

2016 is already projecting to be a banner year!That $68 K is a cheap divorce. "Free sex is invariably the most expensive kind. " -Lazarus Long.

CantWinLosin
01-08-16, 16:54
What has been your experience with her? Is she still rushing you? Just wondering what your experience has been? I'm done with her now, not worth the effort.Is Syd still around? Her BP posts have disappeared, and the number I had no longer works. I thought she had left town or gotten out of the trade.

BobLevel44
01-08-16, 17:28
Lastly, Old Salt is the only one who has given feedback on my referral. It was very cool to read his report. I gave that utr number out to north of 40 of you mongers. One feedback report. That's a 0. 025% return on my time answering emails...
One thing to consider is your really don't want too many people posting on a good thing as our favorite Uncle may become too interested. A couple of good reviews, or any bad ones, is enough to get the word out IMHO.

Trewaller
01-08-16, 17:58
One thing to consider is your really don't want too many people posting on a good thing as our favorite Uncle may become too interested. A couple of good reviews, or any bad ones, is enough to get the word out IMHO.Two glowing reviews should suffice with everything else done through PM's.

CantWinLosin
01-10-16, 17:29
Stood me up.

I called mid-morning and we made early-afternoon plans, at which time she gave me the general area and said she'd text me the address. Nothing. After about 30 minutes I texted her, with no response. Since I'm nearby, I went ahead and went to the crossroads at the appt time and called, no answer, then waited 10 minutes and tried again, no answer, so I gave up.

Now, I use Google Voice, so anything is possible, but I've never had call or texting problems with it before. So I assume she bailed on me.To follow up, she texted me the next morning, apologizing for having phone difficulties. So I may give her the benefit of the doubt and try her again.

Luvinlife1963
01-11-16, 10:30
Mathman, I sent you a PM.


I haven't seen Shannon on JD near terminal since before Christmas. Does anyone have info?

A monger gave me contact number of Little Lisa. Her reviews are spotty. What's the damage she usually charges for qv?

Lastly, Old Salt is the only one who has given feedback on my referral. It was very cool to read his report. I gave that utr number out to north of 40 of you mongers. One feedback report. That's a 0. 025% return on my time answering emails.

Please pm me if you have answers to my above questions.

I love you guys and this forum. Mathman, out!

Member #5055
01-11-16, 11:37
I got two PMs from a newbie Regular member called DaveWilson69.

First wanting solid UTR information as he had a "solid" budget.

Second offering to send me $50 via paypal for this information.

I politely declined, however if anybody else gets this from either him or another "new" regular member, I hope you have the sense to also decline.

Regards.

GW.

Member #5055
01-11-16, 11:40
If asked. I will generally give feedback -- but only via PM.

If you are asking for feedback via the main forum, then I would discourage it. The more we blow up a good girl or a UTR, the more likely hood of her getting damaged or getting out.

Information is dangerous thing, and just enough is good enough! .

GW.


I haven't seen Shannon on JD near terminal since before Christmas. Does anyone have info?

A monger gave me contact number of Little Lisa. Her reviews are spotty. What's the damage she usually charges for qv?

Lastly, Old Salt is the only one who has given feedback on my referral. It was very cool to read his report. I gave that utr number out to north of 40 of you mongers. One feedback report. That's a 0. 025% return on my time answering emails.

Please pm me if you have answers to my above questions.

I love you guys and this forum. Mathman, out!

PassinHoes
01-11-16, 11:53
This is why I only give information to trusted senior members. With verified reviews and who I've potentially talked to before. These new guys scare the crap out f me. I know everybody who find this forum had better be in the game for a w years prior and just enjoyed the comradery here. But if they just show up like they are trying to learn it for sport. Good luck. I don't even respond. I block you and blast you on the forum in the same breath. It's just not good mojo. They usually disappear after 4 post anyway.


If asked. I will generally give feedback -- but only via PM.

If you are asking for feedback via the main forum, then I would discourage it. The more we blow up a good girl or a UTR, the more likely hood of her getting damaged or getting out.

Information is dangerous thing, and just enough is good enough! .

GW.

Harpman31
01-11-16, 17:41
Hey. Been away for awhile out of state and am back and hope to share some new RVA fun soon, although it looks like fairly slim pickings (compared to where I've been). Noticed that there seems to be an increase of folks who want to use kik. I haven't done it yet. Anybody have any experience and care to share pros and cons?

Thanks.

BaRock
01-11-16, 18:39
Is Syd still around? Her BP posts have disappeared, and the number I had no longer works. I thought she had left town or gotten out of the trade.I've been in touch with her very recently & will PM you the number I used.

BobLevel44
01-11-16, 21:46
..I don't even respond. I block you and blast you on the forum in the same breath. It's just not good mojo. They usually disappear after 4 post anyway.Couldn't have said it better. There even seem to be a few around that will even linger for a few months, trying to rack up post counts with bogus reviews / info. I just don't see the point.

PassinHoes
01-12-16, 09:04
I actually got a email today from a regular member who had about 20 post. Problem was they were spread all the way through 2010. That's like 2 a year and they were mostly bs. Deleted it with the quickness. I don't know Ravi. If your name doesn't pop when I get the message, you'll most like have to kick rocks. LOL.


Couldn't have said it better. There even seem to be a few around that will even linger for a few months, trying to rack up post counts with bogus reviews / info. I just don't see the point.

PassinHoes
01-12-16, 09:06
It's a decent app for communicating with the escorts who choose to use it. I only download it as needed, say my peace and delete. Actually dealing with a aa thick chick from Fulton with it. Be careful not to sync your contacts unless you don't put your name and a bland pic.


Hey. Been away for awhile out of state and am back and hope to share some new RVA fun soon, although it looks like fairly slim pickings (compared to where I've been). Noticed that there seems to be an increase of folks who want to use kik. I haven't done it yet. Anybody have any experience and care to share pros and cons?

Thanks.

Todays Nooner
01-12-16, 10:47
Curious. Would selling the info for $50 be illegal?


I got two PMs from a newbie Regular member called DaveWilson69.

First wanting solid UTR information as he had a "solid" budget.

Second offering to send me $50 via paypal for this information.

I politely declined, however if anybody else gets this from either him or another "new" regular member, I hope you have the sense to also decline.

Regards.

GW.

Casey Jones
01-12-16, 11:17
To follow up, she texted me the next morning, apologizing for having phone difficulties. So I may give her the benefit of the doubt and try her again.Had a great time with her. Skills of a goddess.

Not Much to look at. (reminds me of Bonnie Rait's " Angel fromMontgomery" 😅.

MBrendanawicz
01-12-16, 18:57
I ran into Kelley today at her new job. I didn't get a chance to say much more than "Hello, how are you?" for obvious reasons, but she looks really good and seems to be doing well.

Member #5414
01-12-16, 22:38
I ran into Kelley today at her new job. I didn't get a chance to say much more than "Hello, how are you?" for obvious reasons, but she looks really good and seems to be doing well.She seemed like very good person on hard times during my visits with her. I hope you keep her job location a secret if anyone asks you.

BiffSteel
01-12-16, 23:29
She seemed like very good person on hard times during my visits with her. I hope you keep her job location a secret if anyone asks you.I second that. She is definitely retired right now and I hope for her sake she stays that way.

MBrendanawicz
01-13-16, 01:55
She seemed like very good person on hard times during my visits with her. I hope you keep her job location a secret if anyone asks you.Oh absolutely not, that last thing she needs is some guy or guys creeping around. I just wanted to share that she is in a good place and things appear to be going her way.

Harpman31
01-13-16, 11:33
It's a decent app for communicating with the escorts who choose to use it. I only download it as needed, say my peace and delete. Actually dealing with a aa thick chick from Fulton with it. Be careful not to sync your contacts unless you don't put your name and a bland pic.That's good info, appreciate it. I'll give it a shot without syncing.

Harpman31
01-13-16, 11:36
I second that. She is definitely retired right now and I hope for her sake she stays that way.Good to hear. Times with her were great. We clicked -wish there others like her around more. And second everybody else's comments.

Jd2005
01-13-16, 13:07
Good ole Kelley, she was always a pleasure. I remember my first time dreaming of her she told me not to fall in love, haha. She was always upfront and real with me, I'm going to miss her but I am glad she is doing well.

PobodyNerfect
01-14-16, 23:07
I was just curious if anyone remembered utr lei from south side, I have been knowing her for about two years and she called me about twice a month but I haven't heard from her in awhile now and I was wondering has anyone heard anything. I know she had a few clients on the board.

Jdboy
01-15-16, 15:22
I know she's a favorite of several on here. She's back in town (perhaps for good) and doesn't want to post ads. She's getting a phone set up as I write this, and have been asked to selectively pass it along to old friends. If I trade with you frequently, then PM me for the info.

Stay Safe and Happy Hunting.

JDBoy.

MulchMan
01-16-16, 07:28
Good to hear. Times with her were great. We clicked -wish there others like her around more. And second everybody else's comments.After one of our sessions I stayed for about an hour getting to know her. Glad she is doing well.

Jdboy
01-17-16, 15:20
She's had some stuff come up that's delayed her return to the monger scene. Pretty sure she'll still come through, but I don't want to have people flooding her number until she makes up her mind one way or the other. And no, I'm not being selfish. Haven't had a chance to see her yet myself. I'll keep you guys posted.


I know she's a favorite of several on here. She's back in town (perhaps for good) and doesn't want to post ads. She's getting a phone set up as I write this, and have been asked to selectively pass it along to old friends. If I trade with you frequently, then PM me for the info.

Stay Safe and Happy Hunting.

JDBoy.

TheMarto1
01-18-16, 03:02
Nice dream but could you share via pm info I can trade for another spinner


I had a dream about Heather and her spinner room-mate in Chester near Willis Rd. On New Years Eve on my lunchbreak.

For those who don't know Heather, well she's about 5"10 150 lbs small breast and a tight kitty kat, her head game skills are on point.

We'll I had this dream with her o New Years Eve at 9 pm, she answers the door in her underwear, her room mate is on the second bed in her underwear, she says she'll get dressed and leave! I say Hell No your in this dream too. So we all get undressed, I lay back and both ladies start taking turns making my little man happy, once I'm up and hard, Heather put the rain coat on me and she climbs on top and goes for a ride, her room mate kisses all over me from head to toe, I begin to shake, the little spinner reminds Heather not to let me bust, Heather gets off and the spinner roommate climbs on Cowgirl style and she gets her ride, she nice and slow, the spins and faces me and tells me to let her know before I erupt, she picks up speed and before I bust I let her know, she gets off, pulls off rain coat and catches all the cream.

Heather gets a rag and cleans me up.

Before I wake up both girls remind me not to be shy, I can have another dream with them separately or together.

The damage was only $ for both of them, yes $ for both, the dream lasted 45 minutes and I was given an invite to return for individual attention or 2 for $.

Old Sergeant..

BaRock
01-19-16, 05:58
I was just curious if anyone remembered utr lei from south side, I have been knowing her for about two years and she called me about twice a month but I haven't heard from her in awhile now and I was wondering has anyone heard anything. I know she had a few clients on the board.I haven't seen her since June or July, but she is still around. I could no longer stand her incall location, and I don't normally host, so I stopped seeing her. Her old number should still be good, if you want to contact her. Cute girl, banging little body, and a nice workout; too bad she always insisted her contact info not be distributed.

Bocondo
01-19-16, 10:48
Can someone PM me Manny's new number? I enjoyed her in past, but seems like her number is changed since she come back.

Jason12
01-19-16, 11:23
Had a dream of Holly from ************.com. I think she used to be Bella from backpage. She has regulars, but will see new people who will send a pic. She is cautious since getting pinched in CF.

She is sweet. BBBJ, CFS, tight kitty.

Richmond Photo
01-19-16, 13:51
Had a dream of Holly from ************.com. I think she used to be Bella from backpage. She has regulars, but will see new people who will send a pic. She is cautious since getting pinched in CF.

She is sweet. BBBJ, CFS, tight kitty.What do you mean by getting pinch in CF?

Tidad
01-19-16, 17:49
What do you mean by getting pinch in CF?Probably means ChesterField.

Jason12
01-20-16, 00:52
Probably means ChesterField.Yes, Chesterfield.

Member #5008
01-20-16, 05:04
For those of you who see Syd now would be a really good time to PM me!

Member #5008
01-20-16, 21:32
Karmen has no more association with Syd and has kicked her out. Syd is possibly looking at state sponsored vacation soon due to her recent activity. LE knows she's an escort too. I'm staying far away.

Richmond Photo
01-20-16, 22:05
Karmen has no more association with Syd and has kicked her out. Syd is possibly looking at state sponsored vacation soon due to her recent activity. LE knows she's an escort too. I'm staying far away.How does LE know Syd as an excort and not karman? Actually Karman has more ads on BP than Syd would you say? Enlight me?

SteelRod
01-20-16, 23:11
For those of you who see Syd now would be a really good time to PM me!Fuck all these junkies and ripoffs. RVA needs more true pro escorts visiting. Got a message from Annabellegfe saying she is visiting Feb. 4-7. Maybe she got her teeth fixed by now. But what an ass body and up for anything fuck.

Richmond Photo
01-20-16, 23:21
Fuck all these junkies and ripoffs. RVA needs more true pro escorts visiting. Got a message from Annabellegfe saying she is visiting Feb. 4-7. Maybe she got her teeth fixed by now. But what an ass body and up for anything fuck.There is no comparison among the three. Annabellegfe is not t in the same league. Just not good looking enough and not enough skill to keep me going. Ask her to swallow your load see what she tall you.

Kilika
01-21-16, 03:59
I'd be interested in hearing more as I've had a dream about trying to set something up with them but got stood up and received apologies but guaranteed a meeting tomorrow with both.

Grafenberg
01-21-16, 21:14
How does LE know Syd as an excort and not karman? Actually Karman has more ads on BP than Syd would you say? Enlight me?As noted, 'other activity', is what will draw the fuzz on you faster than selling your ass.

Richmond Photo
01-22-16, 23:36
As noted, 'other activity', is what will draw the fuzz on you faster than selling your ass.Selling your ass is usually not the reason why LE probe. There are a few BP regulars who have never been busted. So you know how it is another Henrico spinner.

BobLevel44
01-23-16, 06:19
Karmen has no more association with Syd and has kicked her out. Syd is possibly looking at state sponsored vacation soon due to her recent activity. LE knows she's an escort too. I'm staying far away.Saw that coming. It's too bad as the money earned could easily pay for an entire college education, if it wasn't spent on these extracurricular activities.

Member #5008
01-23-16, 09:18
Saw that coming. It's too bad as the money earned could easily pay for an entire college education, if it wasn't spent on these extracurricular activities.I don't want anyone to think I mean't To stay away from Karmen. I'm staying away from Syd. Karmen is my ATF and I will always stick by her.

VaInSight
01-23-16, 15:03
There is no comparison among the three. Annabellegfe is not t in the same league. Just not good looking enough and not enough skill to keep me going. Ask her to swallow your load see what she tall you.Definitely not in the same league as having guys parked waiting for the previous guy to leave to see her. Or hanging with friends doing 'extra' activities. Or worse yet answer her phone. What a loser she is LOL.

ILikeHotWomen
01-23-16, 18:09
I actually had much better times with Syd than Karmen. Never had an issue with her at all. The one and only time I met up with Karmen, there were a list of no's and she wasn't very friendly. I've had better times from sws. What makes her so good to you? No offense in any of this intended as we all know its YMMV most of the time.


I don't want anyone to think I mean't To stay away from Karmen. I'm staying away from Syd. Karmen is my ATF and I will always stick by her.

BobLevel44
01-23-16, 18:44
I don't want anyone to think I mean't To stay away from Karmen. I'm staying away from Syd. Karmen is my ATF and I will always stick by her.Yea, meant about Syd only.

Richmond Photo
01-23-16, 23:11
Definitely not in the same league as having guys parked waiting for the previous guy to leave to see her. Or hanging with friends doing 'extra' activities. Or worse yet answer her phone. What a loser she is LOL.But a he is still pretty and skilled.

Now if anyone who doent want druggies low end girls here is one.

She comes to rva several times a year. She is a student and visit vcu on researches.

No drugs no extra bagages. Onk you and one on one each time and fresh each time.

Richmond Photo
01-23-16, 23:12
www.MeetMiaMartel.com

Tdog69
01-24-16, 18:37
Some I am stuck in your lovely city at a nice hotel. Needed some company, so I call the girl I did a good deed for. She hopes in her car, meets me at my hotel lobby. We spent some quality time together chit chat and else. I give her gas money and she goes about her way. If you like young light skinned black girls, she is good. This was late Friday night, I was surprised she came. And she did at least once.

I'm still stuck in town, might call her back tonite. Also I will ask if I can pass her no# on. Don't pm me, I can barely get online to check. But if she gives the okay, I will let yall know.

Richmond Photo
01-25-16, 01:06
Some I am stuck in your lovely city at a nice hotel. Needed some company, so I call the girl I did a good deed for. She hopes in her car, meets me at my hotel lobby. We spent some quality time together chit chat and else. I give her gas money and she goes about her way. If you like young light skinned black girls, she is good. This was late Friday night, I was surprised she came. And she did at least once.

I'm still stuck in town, might call her back tonite. Also I will ask if I can pass her no# on. Don't pm me, I can barely get online to check. But if she gives the okay, I will let yall know.Almost 100% of the time, when you do a good deed to these girls all you get back is a kick in the ass. I helped a girl to fix her car, pay for another one's motel room because she didn't have a roof over her head, and a few more.

Now I don't help them. I will redeem the servie first before I help. It's a shame that it happens this way, but got hit too many times. You are just lucky.

Richmond Fotog
01-25-16, 02:19
I have to agree with you. Karma / Karman, and all the other names she's used, is a limited F / S provider who is clueless about being a GFE provider. The newbies I've met off CL were half the price and much better providers.


I actually had much better times with Syd than Karmen. Never had an issue with her at all. The one and only time I met up with Karmen, there were a list of no's and she wasn't very friendly. I've had better times from sws. What makes her so good to you? No offense in any of this intended as we all know its YMMV most of the time.

Member #5841
01-25-16, 10:56
Syd was a lot nicer and a better provider than Karma / Karman. Karma is over-priced and overrated. Too many no's, too limited and literally runs a clock. SW Heather was much better for 50 bucks in a dumpy motel.


I actually had much better times with Syd than Karmen. Never had an issue with her at all. The one and only time I met up with Karmen, there were a list of no's and she wasn't very friendly. I've had better times from sws. What makes her so good to you? No offense in any of this intended as we all know its YMMV most of the time.

Member #5008
01-25-16, 11:59
Syd was a lot nicer and a better provider than Karma / Karman. Karma is over-priced and overrated. Too many no's, too limited and literally runs a clock. SW Heather was much better for 50 bucks in a dumpy motel.Syd was good for awhile. Too bad for the downturn. Our last visit was terrible.

I've seen Karmen at least 15 times. Never ran a clock. Pay $ hhr often with multiple pops. Never had a bad time ever.

Maybe she just treats certain people differently. I like her.

Fubar69
01-25-16, 14:24
Maybe she just treats certain people differently. I like her.I would have to agree, I've always had fun with Karma. Never rushed me or set a clock. We've had several conversations and I think she has a pretty good head on her shoulders. The only thing she has told me "no" to is Greek. I'm not a fan of her location though. Way to many neighbors and cars in their driveways not to notice guys coming and going. As with all of them ymmv.

JohnnyHead
01-25-16, 14:34
I would have to agree, I've always had fun with Karma. Never rushed me or set a clock. We've had several conversations and I think she has a pretty good head on her shoulders. The only thing she has told me "no" to is Greek. I'm not a fan of her location though. Way to many neighbors and cars in their driveways not to notice guys coming and going. As with all of them ymmv.I haven't seen Karmen yet. But have had chats. Slim chance that she's a swallower from our conversations. That's the only reason I have not fully committed yet.

Syd of course swallows for me and greek has been negotiable.

I don't see them unless they are swallowers.

DTbjlvr
01-25-16, 17:02
Syd was good for awhile. Too bad for the downturn. Our last visit was terrible.

I've seen Karmen at least 15 times. Never ran a clock. Pay $ hhr often with multiple pops. Never had a bad time ever.

Maybe she just treats certain people differently. I like her.As you know I've seen Karmen multiple times and maybe over a longer period of time than most. Anybody remember her when she had the 757 number? Not my favorite provider but she has always been available on relatively short notice and been easy to deal with, just not the best oral skills and though I got her to do CIM twice she doesn't like it and no longer wants to do it.

Syd sounded very interesting, though I never met her, but the more I heard, the more I felt like she would eventually be trouble.

Richmond Photo
01-25-16, 18:13
Syd was good for awhile. Too bad for the downturn. Our last visit was terrible.

I've seen Karmen at least 15 times. Never ran a clock. Pay $ hhr often with multiple pops. Never had a bad time ever.

Maybe she just treats certain people differently. I like her.I can see why she treats you better, you have seen her more then I see anyone in a year combined. All good. For me, she has nevered rushed me. May be she had another appointment after word thus causing the rush.

Actually she wanted to talk some more with me after the deal. She is not that bad as some member pointed out. She is all right for the money she charges. Some people want gold for the couple of dollars they paid.

While she wasn't unfriendly with me she wasn't super friendly either. As I have never seen her but once. As for greek.

TheMarto1
01-25-16, 18:46
Isn't Syd tall and flat ass what's are the features for use her more than once the another with more tattoos than skin do you really find attractive sure some likes that but kind of no too good for a provider just my opinion.


I can see why she treats you better, you have seen her more then I see anyone in a year combined. All good. For me, she has nevered rushed me. May be she had another appointment after word thus causing the rush.

Actually she wanted to talk some more with me after the deal. She is not that bad as some member pointed out. She is all right for the money she charges. Some people want gold for the couple of dollars they paid.

While she wasn't unfriendly with me she wasn't super friendly either. As I have never seen her but once. As for greek.

Richmond Photo
01-25-16, 20:16
I haven't seen Karmen yet. But have had chats. Slim chance that she's a swallower from our conversations. That's the only reason I have not fully committed yet.

Syd of course swallows for me and greek has been negotiable.

I don't see them unless they are swallowers.Karma is not for you then. She won't swallow peroid. While syd will and Greek is on the table.

PassinHoes
01-27-16, 12:26
It's been an interesting snow weekend for me.

Stumbled across an amazing little Dominican this weekend standing outside the bank of america waiting on her ride. Her under was taking forever so I offered her a ride and told her don't bother paying him. Offered to match what she was going to give him for a ride and ended up smashing and the backseat for only 29 coins. Very slim 20 yr old with the slickest pussy I've had in a while. Pierced nips and vag. Talked her into getting snowed in with me for a few days and for a few items out the fridge. Which she cooked. I had a decent fuck fest. Thank god for snow and slow uber drivers.

StayCation
01-27-16, 18:46
It's been an interesting snow weekend for me.

Stumbled across an amazing little Dominican this weekend standing outside the bank of america waiting on her ride. Her under was taking forever so I offered her a ride and told her don't bother paying him. Offered to match what she was going to give him for a ride and ended up smashing and the backseat for only 29 coins. Very slim 20 yr old with the slickest pussy I've had in a while. Pierced nips and vag. Talked her into getting snowed in with me for a few days and for a few items out the fridge. Which she cooked. I had a decent fuck fest. Thank god for snow and slow uber drivers.Do you just have to have the balls to put it out there? And you get results? This never happens to me LOL.

JD.

UKnowWho
01-27-16, 20:06
It's been an interesting snow weekend for me.

Stumbled across an amazing little Dominican this weekend standing outside the bank of america waiting on her ride. Her under was taking forever so I offered her a ride and told her don't bother paying him. Offered to match what she was going to give him for a ride and ended up smashing and the backseat for only 29 coins. Very slim 20 yr old with the slickest pussy I've had in a while. Pierced nips and vag. Talked her into getting snowed in with me for a few days and for a few items out the fridge. Which she cooked. I had a decent fuck fest. Thank god for snow and slow uber drivers.Damn, you seem to always be in the right place at the right time. You have a knack for this shit.

Kaizer Soze
01-27-16, 21:09
It's been an interesting snow weekend for me.

Stumbled across an amazing little Dominican this weekend standing outside the bank of america waiting on her ride. Her under was taking forever so I offered her a ride and told her don't bother paying him. Offered to match what she was going to give him for a ride and ended up smashing and the backseat for only 29 coins. Very slim 20 yr old with the slickest pussy I've had in a while. Pierced nips and vag. Talked her into getting snowed in with me for a few days and for a few items out the fridge. Which she cooked. I had a decent fuck fest. Thank god for snow and slow uber drivers.You're quickly becoming my hero.

PassinHoes
01-28-16, 11:29
Sorry but she's not cool with me giving out her info. I think I just was able to sweet talk something that wasn't her normal thing as she has a regular job. But I'll keep why'all posted.

Jdboy
01-28-16, 11:47
Trading a few emails in response to a CL post of mine. I can't tell if this is the Sara there are warnings against in other threads. I'd appreciate feedback before I venture to see her.

Stay Safe and Happy Hunting.

JDBoy.

Its That Guy
01-28-16, 12:06
Trading a few emails in response to a CL post of mine. I can't tell if this is the Sara there are warnings against in other threads. I'd appreciate feedback before I venture to see her.

Stay Safe and Happy Hunting.

JDBoy.I'm positive I just saw her standing on the side of jd a little before the city motel. Looked like she has a decent body.

Richmond Photo
01-28-16, 13:02
Trading a few emails in response to a CL post of mine. I can't tell if this is the Sara there are warnings against in other threads. I'd appreciate feedback before I venture to see her.

Stay Safe and Happy Hunting.

JDBoy.She is not bad. Just don't let her get the money first, you be fine. Nice bo, nice face except her stomach has huge stretch mark. She is very sweet too. Just be the man and control the flow. L you be good to go.

Littlehead
01-28-16, 15:16
But I'm curious where anyone goes for international information. A site with a similar name to this one that's international not USA teatotallingly sucks. Info is years old. If you have a source either PM me or post here for everyone. I can't be the only one that travels and likes to explore the local culture and pussy. Lh.

JohnnyHead
01-28-16, 15:42
Trading a few emails in response to a CL post of mine. I can't tell if this is the Sara there are warnings against in other threads. I'd appreciate feedback before I venture to see her.

Stay Safe and Happy Hunting.

JDBoy.That is Sara. Great head game and swallows for me. Not sure what problems she's caused, but been good for me. But, a few weeks ago I contacted her and a dude started replying and nicely requested that I loose her number.

Bocondo
01-28-16, 17:23
But I'm curious where anyone goes for international information. A site with a similar name to this one that's international not USA teatotallingly sucks. Info is years old. If you have a source either PM me or post here for everyone. I can't be the only one that travels and likes to explore the local culture and pussy. Lh.Internationalsexguide.info is sister website for usasexguide, I have used it for some countries, but you are right it not good for lots of countries. Basically even in US, there are places where usasexguide is very active and helpful, but there are place where you have to find different more popular site.

PassinHoes
01-28-16, 19:01
I use insearchofchicas. Because I mostly only hit spanish countries. It's a pretty jumping site.


But I'm curious where anyone goes for international information. A site with a similar name to this one that's international not USA teatotallingly sucks. Info is years old. If you have a source either PM me or post here for everyone. I can't be the only one that travels and likes to explore the local culture and pussy. Lh.

Quads
01-29-16, 00:03
Trading a few emails in response to a CL post of mine. I can't tell if this is the Sara there are warnings against in other threads. I'd appreciate feedback before I venture to see her.

Stay Safe and Happy Hunting.

JDBoy.She cashed and dashed a few people very recently. Her husband or BF or pimp got her phone and threatened a few members including me. I resolved my issue. She was alright. Some guys rave about her but I thought she was decent. Funny she out off J&the now. She went from UTR to all out street walking. Smh.

TwistedHumor30
01-29-16, 03:59
She cashed and dashed a few people very recently. Her husband or BF or pimp got her phone and threatened a few members including me. I resolved my issue. She was alright. Some guys rave about her but I thought she was decent. Funny she out off J&the now. She went from UTR to all out street walking. Smh.Someone is using her pics to do the cash and dash. I know this girl very well and have heard nothing but good reviews about her. As many times as she could have got me she didn't. So this is a false report of her cash and dash.

JohnnyHead
01-29-16, 05:28
Although I had a little hickup with the male who was responsing to Sara's contacts, and making threats, or requesting that people like me lose her number (which I have no idea what her current number is now).

I 've been able to reach her via Social media. I've had an opportunity to reach her tonight and she needs some help.

She did confirm a male friend was helping her for a short time. She also said the "cash & dash" or other stories regarding her being a thief are untrue.

I can admit that I've seen her at least 5-6 times and on two ocassions fronted her some help when I wasn't available to spare he time. And on both occasions she did honor the arrangement.

Head game is good and swallows for me.

BigDaddyCouch
01-29-16, 06:38
I am looking for an older provider, 50 plus and older. I hope someone know's of one as I prefer a mature lady.

BobLevel44
01-29-16, 16:39
Someone is using her pics to do the cash and dash. I know this girl very well and have heard nothing but good reviews about her. As many times as she could have got me she didn't. So this is a false report of her cash and dash.


She cashed and dashed a few people very recently. Her husband or BF or pimp got her phone and threatened a few members including me. I resolved my issue. She was alright. Some guys rave about her but I thought she was decent. Funny she out off J&the now. She went from UTR to all out street walking. Smh.Don't know Sarah just responding that when a Senior contributing member says that someone has cashed & dashed vs a brand new one with 1 post that says the exact opposite, I know where I put my trust.

Tidad
01-29-16, 18:00
Don't know Sarah just responding that when a Senior contributing member says that someone has cashed & dashed vs a brand new one with 1 post that says the exact opposite, I know where I put my trust.I don't know about cash and dash but she has definitely taken a downward turn lately. I first saw her last year for quite a few great sessions but in the last 2 months she has tried to hit me w the "Western Union me some money so I know you are serious" bullshit. Of course I didn't bite. It's a real shame because she has always been very fun.

BobLevel44
01-29-16, 18:18
I am looking for an older provider, 50 plus and older. I hope someone know's of one as I prefer a mature lady.Go see Lynn. She isn't over 50, but she is a great gal in her 40's and lots of fun.

http://www.lynnstherapies.com/about-me.html

MetalHead63
01-29-16, 19:34
Can any of you hook me up with this? Gracias! Just pm me.

Richmond Photo
01-29-16, 21:54
Someone is using her pics to do the cash and dash. I know this girl very well and have heard nothing but good reviews about her. As many times as she could have got me she didn't. So this is a false report of her cash and dash.Take it from the man who had some dealing with her. She asked me to wire her money via wu. I did. When it came time to cash out, she said time did not suit her. After 2 rounds of not suiting her. I wrote it as a lost and never contact her again. She was good when she was good. But if you can see I say was.

Its That Guy
01-30-16, 00:18
Had one of the most awkward experiences of my life tonight. Saw a girl who answered one of my ads on Monday. Early 20's in the west end. She gave me one od the nicest bjs I've had in a while, seemed totally into it.

Pussy was soaked when I fingered her. Didn't miss a drop and took everything like a champ. Saw her again tonight and she wasn't nearly as into it and wouldn't let me touch her very much, which seemed odd considering how it went Monday. The she froze up and started crying. Said she couldn't do it any me and went and sat naked in her living room while I got dressed. Made sure she was as OK as she was going to be then I hauled ass. I'm not quite sure how to handle things like that.

JayBird76
01-30-16, 00:33
Had one of the most awkward experiences of my life tonight. Saw a girl who answered one of my ads on Monday. Early 20's in the west end. She gave me one od the nicest bjs I've had in a while, seemed totally into it.

Pussy was soaked when I fingered her. Didn't miss a drop and took everything like a champ. Saw her again tonight and she wasn't nearly as into it and wouldn't let me touch her very much, which seemed odd considering how it went Monday. The she froze up and started crying. Said she couldn't do it any me and went and sat naked in her living room while I got dressed. Made sure she was as OK as she was going to be then I hauled ass. I'm not quite sure how to handle things like that.What area did you see her in? I have an appointment with a girl in her 20's Monday and hope it's not the same chick. Hopfully the one you saw will get her life strait if that's what she is wanting.

JayBird76
01-30-16, 00:35
What area did you see her in? I have an appointment with a girl in her 20's Monday and hope it's not the same chick. Hopfully the one you saw will get her life strait if that's what she is wanting.Sorry. Reread your post (been a very very long day) and see you said the west end. Thanks for the post and hope she gets strait. That would def wierd me out as well.

Grafenberg
01-30-16, 09:48
Had one of the most awkward experiences of my life tonight. Saw a girl who answered one of my ads on Monday. Early 20's in the west end. She gave me one od the nicest bjs I've had in a while, seemed totally into it.

Pussy was soaked when I fingered her. Didn't miss a drop and took everything like a champ. Saw her again tonight and she wasn't nearly as into it and wouldn't let me touch her very much, which seemed odd considering how it went Monday. The she froze up and started crying. Said she couldn't do it any me and went and sat naked in her living room while I got dressed. Made sure she was as OK as she was going to be then I hauled ass. I'm not quite sure how to handle things like that.Could have been an act to just get your cash and get you out.

Jd2005
01-30-16, 10:12
Yeah never trust these women. The lengths they will go to cheat you out of your hard earned $ is endless. Remember money isn't everything its the only thing! Happy hunting fellow mongers.

BaRock
01-30-16, 11:37
Someone is using her pics to do the cash and dash. I know this girl very well and have heard nothing but good reviews about her. As many times as she could have got me she didn't. So this is a false report of her cash and dash.In my case, pictures were NOT used to do a cash and dash. I have known Sara since last spring (when she was using 804-XXX-7855), we met maybe a dozen times, and several times she could have "got me", also. She is currently using 804-XXX-6203, and we set up a meeting recently. We met and talked briefly in my truck, and she "went to the office" to get a room, and I have not seen or heard from her since. The picture attached to this post is not a picture someone used to lure me into a trap, it is a picture from Sara's FB site.

Perhaps we're talking about two different Saras. The Sara in the attached picture is a thief. Watch your asses.

Richmond Photo
01-30-16, 12:09
Yeah never trust these women. The lengths they will go to cheat you out of your hard earned $ is endless. Remember money isn't everything its the only thing! Happy hunting fellow mongers.First Cash and dash.

Second cry and run.

Here it is the Blonde Vixen Chelsea claimed to be petite and she is. Half way down the game MISH style, she screened,"Get the fuck out of here. My BF is next door and he will come in to beat the shit out of you. ".

Told her no worry, I want to leave anyway. Everything I like to do she doesn't. So, there went my $. 5.

Its That Guy
01-30-16, 12:20
Yeah never trust these women. The lengths they will go to cheat you out of your hard earned $ is endless. Remember money isn't everything its the only thing! Happy hunting fellow mongers.You say this yet you hit me up for her info. Come on man.

Jd2005
01-30-16, 14:55
I wouldn't giver her cash up front.


You say this yet you hit me up for her info. Come on man.

MetalHead63
01-30-16, 15:09
Can any of you hook me up with this? Gracias! Just pm me.Try this again.

Quads
01-30-16, 20:25
In my case, pictures were NOT used to do a cash and dash. I have known Sara since last spring (when she was using 804-XXX-7855), we met maybe a dozen times, and several times she could have "got me", also. She is currently using 804-XXX-6203, and we set up a meeting recently. We met and talked briefly in my truck, and she "went to the office" to get a room, and I have not seen or heard from her since. The picture attached to this post is not a picture someone used to lure me into a trap, it is a picture from Sara's FB site.

Perhaps we're talking about two different Saras. The Sara in the attached picture is a thief. Watch your asses.That's the Sara I'm referring to. If there is another one, I apologize for the mix up.

Richmond Photo
01-30-16, 22:09
That's the Sara I'm referring to. If there is another one, I apologize for the mix up.If we are talking about the one in that picture. She used to send me pictures. I saw her twice she was great. Love the girl. Good head game. One night out of the blue she was crying need money to pay for the room or have to go to the shelter. I know it's a scam then, but little guy said gi e her the benefit of the doubt. Send 1 bill via wu. Never heard back so I texted to set up to cash in my bill. She said she will be busy and can do another time but I couldn't. Next day tried that again. And set it one week in advance. Day before I texted her she said she had something to do and it needs to be a later time.

I said I'd she cannot meet at our preset time, don't worry about it. She is not going g to meet. She said no she wants to meet but not that time.

I have to work so if I set something up and last minute she backed out twice. I said she had no intention. To honor the deal.

Told her to keep the money and we will not meet again and she just lost someone who is willing to help her. She never text back so you be the judge. Scam or just shit happens.

JohnnyHead
01-31-16, 01:54
I probably could've emphasized how Sara honored her advancement with me. In both cases, she honored her end of the bargain by discounting in my dreams until her debt was zero.

Initially, she was avoiding or making excuses, but once we discussed a discount, she did well and saw me several more times at a significantly lowered donation.

But both posts I've seen with her pics are definetely her. And after chatting recently with her through facebook and mentioning the recent cash and dash reviews about her, she denied the stories and got upset and said she's "quitting this business". And she either closed her Facebook or blocked me? Which I thought was weird because she initially was begging me to see her immediately and said she was going to be homeless if I didn't come soon enough. But all that changed when I brought up the reviews about cash and dash. She looked the reviews up herself and sent me the mentioned Facebook message and added "goodbye" and I haven't found her on Facebook since.

BaRock
01-31-16, 08:45
I probably could've emphasized how Sara honored her advancement with me. In both cases, she honored her end of the bargain by discounting in my dreams until her debt was zero.

Initially, she was avoiding or making excuses, but once we discussed a discount, she did well and saw me several more times at a significantly lowered donation.

But both posts I've seen with her pics are definetely her. And after chatting recently with her through facebook and mentioning the recent cash and dash reviews about her, she denied the stories and got upset and said she's "quitting this business". And she either closed her Facebook or blocked me? Which I thought was weird because she initially was begging me to see her immediately and said she was going to be homeless if I didn't come soon enough. But all that changed when I brought up the reviews about cash and dash. She looked the reviews up herself and sent me the mentioned Facebook message and added "goodbye" and I haven't found her on Facebook since.She's still out on FB. Seems that, based on these recent posts, she has been on quite the crime spree. Thanks to all who have shared their Sara stories. I think all of us regret having to make those negative reports, because she WAS such a sweetheart, but exposing her makes this game safer for us all.

Richmond Photo
01-31-16, 10:26
She's still out on FB. Seems that, based on these recent posts, she has been on quite the crime spree. Thanks to all who have shared their Sara stories. I think all of us regret having to make those negative reports, because she WAS such a sweetheart, but exposing her makes this game safer for us all.She shows me her children's pictures and how good a mother she is. She told me how her ex beats her up. The abusive relationship put her in a difficult situation and she is doing this until she gets back on her feet etc etc. At that time it sounded real. How many people have stacks of baby pictures lying around.

I took the bait and probably will do it again. Those sad stories get to me. Who really want the girl you just fuck and gave you the best head job to be homeless? If the homeless situation is real and you refused to help?

But we all know it's only a story at the end. I know I will do it gain with someone else.

Hunted13
01-31-16, 10:37
Hey, I know I've asked this in the past, but does anyone have a girl that's open to being filmed while getting fucked (ideally one that isn't trying to hide her face)? Been something I've wanted to try for awhile and it never works out.

PassinHoes
01-31-16, 11:18
There was a post on the last 2 months about a bbw that gave a guy a massage and it turned into a wet dream. I'm having a hard time finding it and have a good reason why I want to find it. Any help would be great. I've been looking but can't remember where I saw it. I searched bbw and couldn't find it. Thanks in advance guy.

BobLevel44
01-31-16, 16:49
She shows me her children's pictures and how good a mother she is. She told me how her ex beats her up. The abusive relationship put her in a difficult situation and she is doing this until she gets back on her feet etc etc. At that time it sounded real. How many people have stacks of baby pictures lying around.

I took the bait and probably will do it again. Those sad stories get to me. Who really want the girl you just fuck and gave you the best head job to be homeless? If the homeless situation is real and you refused to help?

But we all know it's only a story at the end. I know I will do it gain with someone else.Yea, it's hard not to let emotions sway judgement at times for sure, but I like to try and keep thinking of it as just a business transaction, like signing up for new cell phone service. I don't want to know the Verizon employees' personal lives and I don't want them to know mine. Keep it simple and get the job done. If I want a more emotional relationship, I'll find someone not in the business to date.

Tdog69
02-01-16, 12:02
There was a post on the last 2 months about a bbw that gave a guy a massage and it turned into a wet dream. I'm having a hard time finding it and have a good reason why I want to find it. Any help would be great. I've been looking but can't remember where I saw it. I searched bbw and couldn't find it. Thanks in advance guy.Tried to email you this morning, about your request.

Tidad
02-01-16, 21:05
I'm famously paranoid but I hope my suspicions are wrong. Has anyone else received text messages from a very cute hippie spinner who was around briefly in December? From # x1 x-6 xx-x22 x? If so, complete the # and tell me her name. I think we have something to talk about.

PassinHoes
02-01-16, 21:24
So I made a few strides this weekend and I'll be quick on the run down.

1) met a chick on tag. 20, aa, slim thick with a phat ass. BBBJ was pretty good, no teeth, could tell she was super new. But when I said spit on it she got into it more. All there positions I wanted and had her for about an hour. Picked her up in Northside. Funny thing is I saw her walking down the street yesterday so I'm not sure if she is Utr or SW online. Because our condo suggested neither. I just offered her sum cell phones coins. Damage. 6. Not bad at all.

2) met a small aa bbw on CL. Claimed she just wanted a texting budy. 21, college student. Picked her up at her dorm. Brought her back, bought sum McDonald's and Banged her doggy style. No head. Claimed she didn't give it. Was decent for one nut, but won't contact again. Damage. McDonald's. LOL.

3) 26 small / medium bbw. Mostly tits and ass. Wf I met on CL. Claimed she just wanted sum BBC. Took a bit of convincing but ended up with a good ol fuck fest at her place. Damage, gas. Will call often as she wanted a consistent fuck buddy and of all of the girls she was the cheapest, closest, and most fun. Crazy thing is I didn't even nut. I was fucking talked her into catching, thought I felt the nut coming pulled off the rubber and ended up with an instant second wind. Wasn't mad, as she let me fuck her face till I got tired.

SJena2013
02-01-16, 22:39
You did provide me with this chick's details. I did contact her with no response. Don't venture if it appears suspicious. Stay safe. Omar.


I'm famously paranoid but I hope my suspicions are wrong. Has anyone else received text messages from a very cute hippie spinner who was around briefly in December? From # x1 x-6 xx-x22 x? If so, complete the # and tell me her name. I think we have something to talk about.

Kaizer Soze
02-02-16, 18:54
For #2, the small bbw. Did you at least super size it? LOL.


So I made a few strides this weekend and I'll be quick on the run down.

1) met a chick on tag. 20, aa, slim thick with a phat ass. BBBJ was pretty good, no teeth, could tell she was super new. But when I said spit on it she got into it more. All there positions I wanted and had her for about an hour. Picked her up in Northside. Funny thing is I saw her walking down the street yesterday so I'm not sure if she is Utr or SW online. Because our condo suggested neither. I just offered her sum cell phones coins. Damage. 6. Not bad at all.

2) met a small aa bbw on CL. Claimed she just wanted a texting budy. 21, college student. Picked her up at her dorm. Brought her back, bought sum McDonald's and Banged her doggy style. No head. Claimed she didn't give it. Was decent for one nut, but won't contact again. Damage. McDonald's. LOL.

3) 26 small / medium bbw. Mostly tits and ass. Wf I met on CL. Claimed she just wanted sum BBC. Took a bit of convincing but ended up with a good ol fuck fest at her place. Damage, gas. Will call often as she wanted a consistent fuck buddy and of all of the girls she was the cheapest, closest, and most fun. Crazy thing is I didn't even nut. I was fucking talked her into catching, thought I felt the nut coming pulled off the rubber and ended up with an instant second wind. Wasn't mad, as she let me fuck her face till I got tired.

JohnnyHead
02-02-16, 21:34
Has anyone heard from Angel in the last 24 hrs?

Someone sent me a link that has an "Angel" in a pinch. But that's not he Angel I've referred.

Last convo I had with Angel was around 7 pm Monday.

Jd2005
02-02-16, 22:10
I texted her today and I was going to see her but she couldn't make it out to my way because of distance. I could of seen her if I went to her but that's a long uber ride, LOL.


Has anyone heard from Angel in the last 24 hrs?

Someone sent me a link that has an "Angel" in a pinch. But that's not he Angel I've referred.

Last convo I had with Angel was around 7 pm Monday.

DarklyDreaming
02-02-16, 22:12
Has anyone heard from Angel in the last 24 hrs?

Someone sent me a link that has an "Angel" in a pinch. But that's not he Angel I've referred.

Last convo I had with Angel was around 7 pm Monday.Read your PM.

Richmond Photo
02-02-16, 22:50
Has anyone heard from Angel in the last 24 hrs?

Someone sent me a link that has an "Angel" in a pinch. But that's not he Angel I've referred.

Last convo I had with Angel was around 7 pm Monday.I was in a meeting so I just answered her and she wanted to meet.

Jd2005
02-03-16, 02:30
Is she back available or what?

CantWinLosin
02-04-16, 16:46
Finally met up with her today for a brief but very enjoyable stop in between the two of us running errands. She's all that's been said here by others. Body shows the miles but in better than expected shape, quite cute face, good kisser, seriously on point on the actual work, and a modest tariff. I will definitely repeat, and for more time next time so we can explore.

A Great Hobby
02-05-16, 01:58
If one of you guys sent a girl home with uber tonight pm me I was the uber driver an we kind of hit it off but didn't want to ask her if she was a working girl she seems cool I was driving a black car.

Todays Nooner
02-08-16, 14:59
If one of you guys sent a girl home with uber tonight pm me I was the uber driver an we kind of hit it off but didn't want to ask her if she was a working girl she seems cool I was driving a black car.I've been thinking about this post. Uber. How can one, politely and discreetly, bring up 'are you a working girl' in conversation. ? And without actual solicitations. ?

BareBackJack
02-09-16, 14:16
Finally met up with her today for a brief but very enjoyable stop in between the two of us running errands. She's all that's been said here by others. Body shows the miles but in better than expected shape, quite cute face, good kisser, seriously on point on the actual work, and a modest tariff. I will definitely repeat, and for more time next time so we can explore.I've texted her but so far no reply. I'll try again but if she needs business, she ought to respond. It would be great to get another UTR on this side of the river.

MathMan
02-09-16, 14:40
Hey fellas,

Anyone seen Shannon around in the past two weeks? SW on JD near Terminal. Tiny girl w / black hair? She's been well reviewed here.

I haven't seen her in two weeks. She's my main squeeze! Pm with any info.

BTW: JD has been beyond dead!! Nothing!

Vince2000
02-09-16, 15:33
I've texted her but so far no reply. I'll try again but if she needs business, she ought to respond. It would be great to get another UTR on this side of the river.She goes by breeze, saw her last week damage was $80 for hh. Apart from greek everything is in the menu.

BareBackJack
02-09-16, 15:57
She goes by breeze, saw her last week damage was $80 for hh. Apart from greek everything is in the menu.Thanks. I'd love to find another low volume or UTR that provides greek. I had one until about a year ago. And she was great. Took it deep and seemed to really love it. Then she got busted. One gal says no way and another says get me drunk and we can try. Well, fucking a drunk girl isn't near as much fun as I thought it was in college. Stoned, drunk or high it really hurts the sexual performance (and not just mine). All the same, a new UTR is great, if we can connect. Any idea if she goes bb? Jack.

Virginia Guy
02-09-16, 16:08
Thanks. I'd love to find another low volume or UTR that provides greek. I had one until about a year ago. And she was great. Took it deep and seemed to really love it. Then she got busted. One gal says no way and another says get me drunk and we can try. Well, fucking a drunk girl isn't near as much fun as I thought it was in college. Stoned, drunk or high it really hurts the sexual performance (and not just mine). All the same, a new UTR is great, if we can connect. Any idea if she goes bb? Jack.Donna was my goto for anal. She was usually on Midlo, but haven't seen her much. $60 for my cock deep in her ass until she tapped out. I think she still hangs around Midlo on the weekends to earn enough for the week.

Tidad
02-09-16, 17:03
Donna was my goto for anal. She was usually on Midlo, but haven't seen her much. $60 for my cock deep in her ass until she tapped out. I think she still hangs around Midlo on the weekends to earn enough for the week.She was a first rate deep throat provider too. A true pro w no limits.

Member #5074
02-09-16, 17:34
Hi, New to the Forum but not to the hobby. This will be my first of many reports. I've been busy the last few weeks.

Saw Redd the other day after a hiatus. I've actually known her for years. Still looks great and bargain for something quick. I know she's been reviewed here in the past but she seemed to disappear for awhile. No longer living near Gilpin Ct. Shithole. Staying at a motel by the airport but we actually met at her moms house. Deep throat with cim for. 4 I plan on repeating.

Also saw skinny Lisa over the weekend. Not much else to say that hasn't been said. Nice lady and nice time. I will repeat. Location is super safe too.

CantWinLosin
02-10-16, 07:38
I've texted her but so far no reply. I'll try again but if she needs business, she ought to respond. It would be great to get another UTR on this side of the river.She and texting don't seem to match well. Try a voice call. Google Voice is your friend.

Troll500
02-10-16, 13:10
Hey fellas,

Anyone seen Shannon around in the past two weeks? SW on JD near Terminal. Tiny girl w / black hair? She's been well reviewed here.

I haven't seen her in two weeks. She's my main squeeze! Pm with any info.

BTW: JD has been beyond dead!! Nothing!Maybe my timing was just bad, but I haven't seen her since late Semptember. Her and Jodi were what I looked for every time, and both just disappeared. Glad to hear Shannon is still around.