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Eddie223
11-02-22, 13:53
At the suggestion of another monger in different forum, I stopped by Kings Spa / Massage, formerly "Wellness Time," in Woodbridge (off Golansky Blvd). Was happy with visit but YMMV. BTW, strictly Chinese MTs, no Koreans or males working there as some ads suggest.

House fee. 7 (use cash - $6 service charge for CC use). I met Linda but at least 1 other MT there. They were both mid 30 to mid 40 age range but nice looking at good bodies. (During massage I could hear at least 2 women talking in another room but not so loud it was distracting.).

Took advantage of TS that included some teasing, giving it a 7/10 by comparison. Linda might be new to this location, did a bit of giggling like a school girl's first time. But she was friendly and giggling kept mood light. (Hope she wasn't stifling laughter after seeing me naked LOL).

Once she started massage, it was obvious she wasn't a rookie to the business, definitely a 7-8/10 for quality of massage. Allowed OTC touching and moved her body to tempt and tease for more touching. I think this was more her than "store policy" because she'd say things like "not now," or "can't do that today" when I tried reaching into her pants.

On the flip, agreed on. 5 for standard NOVA finish (inflation affecting all of our fun), HJ, fully dressed and OTC touching everywhere. Linda has good HJ techniques, right amount of oil, some light moaning to encourage finish but not too point of being annoying, and kept a tissue ready for clean up. When it erupted, she really got every drop. Kept saying "too much, too much" and had to grab more tissues. Mention this only because her reaction was funny and had us both laughing quietly. She did use warm damp towel to make sure everything was cleaned up.

Left. 6 tip (added extra. 1 for the effort and showing one if her girls during HJ, plus the comedy show). Total damage $. 3 and left feeling light on my feet and funny memories that kept me smiling the rest of the day.

Definitely will visit again, hope to experience other MTs to see more of the menu.Good review! Thanks for TOFTT. You will find expanded menus and Pine and Rte 1 spa though I haven't been to either recently enough to recommend a name.

Cornelius24
11-02-22, 14:18
At the suggestion of another monger in different forum, I stopped by Kings Spa / Massage, formerly "Wellness Time," in Woodbridge (off Golansky Blvd). Was happy with visit but YMMV. BTW, strictly Chinese MTs, no Koreans or males working there as some ads suggest.

House fee. 7 (use cash - $6 service charge for CC use). I met Linda but at least 1 other MT there. They were both mid 30 to mid 40 age range but nice looking at good bodies. (During massage I could hear at least 2 women talking in another room but not so loud it was distracting.).

Took advantage of TS that included some teasing, giving it a 7/10 by comparison. Linda might be new to this location, did a bit of giggling like a school girl's first time. But she was friendly and giggling kept mood light. (Hope she wasn't stifling laughter after seeing me naked LOL).

Once she started massage, it was obvious she wasn't a rookie to the business, definitely a 7-8/10 for quality of massage. Allowed OTC touching and moved her body to tempt and tease for more touching. I think this was more her than "store policy" because she'd say things like "not now," or "can't do that today" when I tried reaching into her pants..The happy endings with a funny twist are always the best and memorable ones. One that I will never forget was, right after I popped she said "WOW Thousand Babies Died." Dark humor I know but the juxtaposition of what we just did with the dark humor joke made it one to fondly remember.

NyHornet
11-02-22, 14:45
So has anybody every experienced giving a massage to a provider at an AMP? I've had many experiences in many other ways but I'm thinking this would be another fun one to check off. Let me know if you've done it or have any location recommendations. I may start at my usual places and make the request as well.I have done that many times. I find it's more dependent on the individual provider than the business place.

Just ask.

Amsterdam2022
11-02-22, 18:50
Be smart.

Careful and serious hobbyists ALL have a burner phone to separate personal and hobby activities.

It is a necessity!

Get a cheap pay as you go phone and keep it in a convienient secure place, like in your car somewhere.

Walmart has Tracfone which is good and cheep. You can add call time and texts. Pay cash for everything and don't mix you personal and hobby life at all.

Then you can sleep at night.How can I top-up Tracfone with cash? Where?

NyHornet
11-03-22, 00:01
There was also a place in that complex called A+ Therapy, or something like that.A Plus was the very first AMP I ever went to and met the very sexy Sookie!

Pbarber307
11-03-22, 01:52
How can I top-up Tracfone with cash? Where?I purchase a 60-minute Tracfone card from my grocery store. They are hanging with an assortment of other gift cards. Pay cash. Scratch off the gray bar on the back to reveal a fifteen digit code. You can call the 800 number on the card to add minutes (enter code upon prompt), or you can set up an account online and enter your code.

Facile procedure.

PB.

UnlikelyZero
11-03-22, 09:15
Noticed a post or 2 about PineTree. Had an extra hour to kill and an itch.

Tried calling but no one answered to the phone. Decided to stop by on the way to another place and door was opened by attractive gal in short sparkly party dress.

Was told yes come in, no wait. How long? 1 hour. No, only 1/2 hour available. "other appointments". - same as other review reported.

Back to the room and noticed she would not make eye contact. Strange. She was slim tallish with large breasts. Nice package but not a spring chicken. But attractive.

Would not ever look me in the eyes. Tried.I immediately made a move to head back to PineTree after reading this in hopes that it might be Sara that was there last year based on the description. It is not. Mid / late 30's, ever so slightly buck tooth, man made's, small butt, thin, around 5'6-7, I would call her very attractive. I was disappointed it was not old Sara, but new Sara is lovely. I did not experience the shyness. One hour. 8. Massage was light. On the flip straight to negotiations, but hard to call them that. Seems more like set prices they won't budge much on and if you're willing to pay more than they were going for then great. Everything covered. $1. 6 for CBJ, $$ for CFS. Apparently the pricing model is different for half hour, $1. 2 CBJ, didn't discuss FS.

This is usually a big turn off for me, and more expensive than I would like it to be. But I was already there, so I dropped $$. Very sweet and sensual experience. It was both cute and sexy when she climbed up on the table to be taller and spread her legs. She was very into it and it was actually one of the best experiences I've had in awhile. Value for the area isn't the best. Linda at Angel down a few is cheaper and a wonderfully sensual experience although no FS. Garden around the corner is cheaper and they're generally willing to do more, but are typically far less attractive. Annie down the road at Eastern is a good friendly budget option.

Although I'm turned off by pricing and money talk upfront with payment first I had a great time and the women at Pine are generally very attractive relative to the competition. I still miss the old crew since I had great chemistry with them. But everything's always changing.

DC002
11-03-22, 12:03
How can I top-up Tracfone with cash? Where?I top mine off at Walgreens. A card for cash, then scratch of code and just enter it on the phone in the Trac phone app.

No personal info ever.

Mustang946
11-03-22, 13:28
A Plus was the very first AMP I ever went to and met the very sexy Sookie!I remember her well. She opened up that shop as owner / manager. I first met her many years ago in a spa in Tysons, then she was manager of Soft Touch for a few years. No idea if she is still working.

NyHornet
11-03-22, 14:42
I remember her well. She opened up that shop as owner / manager. I first met her many years ago in a spa in Tysons, then she was manager of Soft Touch for a few years. No idea if she is still working.Yes, Suki, not Sookie. After she left A-Plus, I kept running into her at different places around Springfield and Annandale. Talked to a lady several years ago in Manassas who said she was a friend and filled in once in a while at her place. Then she said she had opened her own legitimate nail place in Annandale or Falls Church but wouldn't give the name. She was quite flirty and got nude for me once in Springfield. One of the best bodies I've ever seen at an AMP. It was about 2006 when I first met her, so she may be pushing 50 by now.

NovaKing703
11-03-22, 14:53
Any help would be appreciated.


Last year I posted "A tale of two Hannas" #19484, where I described having two girls with the same name on the same day. This week I unintentionally duplicated this with two Tina's.

First stop was ACS Tina in Springfield. Paid for HH because her BBBJ is too incredible I can't last any longer that that. In fact several times I had to stop her mouth action and take the plunge in BBFS just to keep from ending the session early. To her it must have been like dipping chicken McNuggets in sweet and sour sauce as she sucked her pussy juice off my dick more that 5 times. I had to keep distracting myself from cumming by rubbing her clit which she enjoyed. Damage was $. 3 with. 4 tip (she didn't ask for tip but to me it was worth it.

On the way out I really wanted a second pop but she only allows one so as I drove over the bridge I remembered Tina at TK Nails in Springfield. Tina is a 60 yo petite Vietnamese spinner who really gets into stroking a penis. She owns a little nail shop by herself that never has traditional customers. If she has a massage going on she locks the front door and leaves the open sign on. That is a clue to return in a hour..

EDog65
11-03-22, 17:00
After trying on a number of occasions I was finally able to book an appointment with Kim at New King Spa. She was very cheerful and upbeat when I met her upon walking into the spa. I saw Lisa there and was glad I didn't need to take a second round with her. She's nice but just not my cup of tea. Kim was as described in previous posts, probably 45-50 if I had to guess very short with smallish breasts and nips and an average body for a woman of her age. The TS was pretty standard and did include some tickling of the boys and the butt. I booked an hour and the massage lasted about 30 minutes and was pretty average with an occasional brush of the balls and butt crack. I had her that her rimming skills were very good which is why I've been trying to see her for a while now. She did a little rimming but not to the extent that I was hoping for. She asked what I wanted and what I paid last time I was there, I said $. 40 tip to Lisa for everything and she made a little sad face so I said I'll throw in another. 20 and she was good to go. She asked if I wanted to massage her so I did and took the liberty to do a little rimming on her and worked the cookie as well. She seemed to enjoy and afterwards she got a cover and we did CBJ and CFS. I couldn't nut so she gave me a HJ with a finger up my butt to finish me off. Overall a good visit and I would recommend, just not the top spot in the area. Someplace like Pine is a better option overall.

OldBoomer
11-03-22, 17:46
At the suggestion of another monger in different forum, I stopped by Kings Spa / Massage, formerly "Wellness Time," in Woodbridge (off Golansky Blvd). Was happy with visit but YMMV. BTW, strictly Chinese MTs, no Koreans or males working there as some ads suggest.

House fee. 7 (use cash - $6 service charge for CC use). I met Linda but at least 1 other MT there. They were both mid 30 to mid 40 age range but nice looking at good bodies. (During massage I could hear at least 2 women talking in another room but not so loud it was distracting.).

Took advantage of TS that included some teasing, giving it a 7/10 by comparison. Linda might be new to this location, did a bit of giggling like a school girl's first time. But she was friendly and giggling kept mood light. (Hope she wasn't stifling laughter after seeing me naked LOL).

Once she started massage, it was obvious she wasn't a rookie to the business, definitely a 7-8/10 for quality of massage. Allowed OTC touching and moved her body to tempt and tease for more touching. I think this was more her than "store policy" because she'd say things like "not now," or "can't do that today" when I tried reaching into her pants.

On the flip, agreed on. 5 for standard NOVA finish (inflation affecting all of our fun), HJ, fully dressed and OTC touching everywhere. Linda has good HJ techniques, right amount of oil, some light moaning to encourage finish but not too point of being annoying, and kept a tissue ready for clean up. When it erupted, she really got every drop. Kept saying "too much, too much" and had to grab more tissues. Mention this only because her reaction was funny and had us both laughing quietly. She did use warm damp towel to make sure everything was cleaned up.

Left. 6 tip (added extra. 1 for the effort and showing one if her girls during HJ, plus the comedy show). Total damage $. 3 and left feeling light on my feet and funny memories that kept me smiling the rest of the day.

Definitely will visit again, hope to experience other MTs to see more of the menu.I visited this place over 3 years ago. At that time, there was a man manager out front. He asked if I wanted a man or a woman for the massage. The place had a strange vibe, so I backed out. It sounds like things have improved.

Procrast333
11-03-22, 19:40
I visited this place over 3 years ago. At that time, there was a man manager out front. He asked if I wanted a man or a woman for the massage. The place had a strange vibe, so I backed out. It sounds like things have improved.Agree about the vibe. Was there in 2019 and there was short, bald, clearly gay Chinese guy. They had a clear plastic standing display of prices, but on the back of that were the prices for "Male 4 Male" The whole place was red lights. Felt so sketch.

Procrast333
11-03-22, 19:49
Any help would be appreciated.Sorry, please, what does ACS mean? This Tina intrigues me!

Markam
11-03-22, 21:51
Sorry, please, what does ACS mean? This Tina intrigues me!ACS: Asian Crap Shoot.

AvgJoe123
11-03-22, 23:38
So has anybody every experienced giving a massage to a provider at an AMP? I've had many experiences in many other ways but I'm thinking this would be another fun one to check off. Let me know if you've done it or have any location recommendations. I may start at my usual places and make the request as well.I almost always ask if they would like a massage before transitioning to other activities. If they were willing to remove their clothes, then they are almost always willing to receive a massage. The ones that enjoy the massage are the best and most responsive in other activities. The ones that simply tolerate the massage are usually dead fish in other activities.

DisMan6
11-03-22, 23:51
Sorry, please, what does ACS mean? This Tina intrigues me!ACS = Asian Crap Shoot.

You will find a plethora of more info about Tina if you search the escort thread. Good luck.

Dm6.

Tom McAn
11-04-22, 00:03
Sorry, please, what does ACS mean? This Tina intrigues me!ACS = Asian crapshoot, a term commonly used in this area to describe a number of Asian escort outfits with multiple providers whose service ranges from good like Tina's to lousy like a number of other ACS providers I've visited.

Tina has been extensively reviewed in the escorts section, including three times by yours truly. You should find plenty of info there. You might want to act quickly as I recall a fellow monger stating Tina would only be here for about a month during her current visit.

DatingMasseuse
11-04-22, 00:56
I have questions about a particular massage therapist. Has anyone been to Massage Therapy and Spa in Fairfax in about the last month.

Feel free to direct message me. Thanks.

Daisuke
11-04-22, 09:34
https://www.discreetstory.com/lexi

Pictures are accurate, and Lexi was great. She's here until next week. Very bubbly and easy to be around. Extremely accommodating.

LocalCustomer
11-04-22, 10:19
https://www.discreetstory.com/lexi

Pictures are accurate, and Lexi was great. She's here until next week. Very bubbly and easy to be around. Extremely accommodating.What's her rate?

PixelsAndGrids
11-04-22, 10:56
After trying on a number of occasions I was finally able to book an appointment with Kim at New King Spa. She was very cheerful and upbeat when I met her upon walking into the spa. I saw Lisa there and was glad I didn't need to take a second round with her. She's nice but just not my cup of tea. Kim was as described in previous posts, probably 45-50 if I had to guess very short with smallish breasts and nips and an average body for a woman of her age. The TS was pretty standard and did include some tickling of the boys and the butt. I booked an hour and the massage lasted about 30 minutes and was pretty average with an occasional brush of the balls and butt crack. I had her that her rimming skills were very good which is why I've been trying to see her for a while now. She did a little rimming but not to the extent that I was hoping for. She asked what I wanted and what I paid last time I was there, I said $. 40 tip to Lisa for everything and she made a little sad face so I said I'll throw in another. 20 and she was good to go. She asked if I wanted to massage her so I did and took the liberty to do a little rimming on her and worked the cookie as well. She seemed to enjoy and afterwards she got a cover and we did CBJ and CFS. I couldn't nut so she gave me a HJ with a finger up my butt to finish me off. Overall a good visit and I would recommend, just not the top spot in the area. Someplace like Pine is a better option overall.I was thinking of seeing Kim again from when she was at Queen, but Pine intrigues me. Which Pine? Woodbridge, Fairfax, Herndon?

Silk3434
11-04-22, 12:26
https://www.discreetstory.com/lexi

Pictures are accurate, and Lexi was great. She's here until next week. Very bubbly and easy to be around. Extremely accommodating.Doesn't sound like a MP.

AlmostRetired
11-04-22, 12:38
I had a dream that I saw Suzy last Tuesday at the AMP in Annandale. After a long hard days work I decided to have some me time. Suzy a very attractive girl, although small can give a good massage. On the flip, some teasing but I really just wanted some good massage. Very friendly and will keep you relaxed although they can be engaging. I highly recommend the massage and very beautiful faces. Please be nice to the ladies.I am thinking of giving Papaya a visit. Any more details to share? What's the damage and the dream menu? Feel free to send me a PM.

Daisuke
11-04-22, 13:04
Doesn't sound like a MP.I mean, they start you off with a shower together.

It's 3.2 $ hr and 2.8 $ for 45 min.

OrZammar
11-04-22, 14:33
Doesn't sound like a MP.They're one of the many kgirl escort agencies.

Silk3434
11-04-22, 15:34
They're one of the many kgirl escort agencies.That's what I thought?

DaveDC
11-04-22, 15:47
Friends,

I am trying to get in touch with Tara for massage / manscaping. Etc. Can't seem to find her number. Is she is currently available.

Any alternative suggestions is most appreciated.The best suggestion for this in my opinion is Lucy on Javier Road in Fairfax. She does shaves rather than waxing and she has a bubbly personality and supper reasonable.

AlmostRetired
11-04-22, 23:36
Haven't visited an AMP for a minute, been far too busy at work and was down for a bit. I have seen Papaya on BP and often wondered what a visit and possible dream would be like. Not having seen many reviews here, I'm not sure if this can be considered TOFTT. But suffice to say it was quite a worthwhile visit. If I might digress for a quick minute.

I read a mongerer who had posted about an Escort in this forum and was IMHO correctly asked why the post was here, after all we can all see the various sections. Paraphrasing the response, he basically indicated the AMPs were crap, dirty with poor services hence the thinking he was doing us all AMP faithfuls a favor. Having done quite a bit, from streetwalkers through hotels and private aprts to AMPs. I have to say that assertion is quite incorrect. I am pretty much AMP only currently and I have my reasons. Possibly about 8 plus yrs ago when I got into the game, yes a lot of AMPs were a tad bit sketchy. But today's AMP or at least practically all that I visit can rival any straight MP save for the extras you pay for like special herbal teas and spending even more money on rubs and stuff. Yes MPs in an AMP lots of time are not proficient in English, but make no mistake in VA, all of them must have a MT license from the state, and most give a really good massage. The same lis. That the high cost places have. As soon as you get through front door, it's easy to tell what kinda place you are visiting. Sorry to digress and possibly much ado about nothing but as a mongerer who for my own reasons almost exclusively visits AMPs, just thought I'd share my 2 cents. Now back to Papaya!

Very easy to set up an appointment. Called and booked 60 minutes. Location is a typical office park set up and is already located in the Korean part of Annandale so lots of other K businesses around. Plenty of parking available. Entry is a side door which is nice. Decor was nice as well. Disa met me at the door and led me to the room. Even though the table looked clean and ready, she opened up a small cupboard and pulled out a clean fresh sheet and as she made the bed asked if I wanted a TS. Of course I said yes. To those newer to the game and wondering how to determine if and what dreaming extras are available, a TS is IMHO the best way to get a good firm idea. The level of teasing or lack there of during the TS pretty much tells you what will later be on the table. Disa teased enough to pass along the message there was a full menu available. Back in the room she gave me a very good strong massage walking on my back and got lots of knots out. Before the flip she teased and asked what I had in mind. Negotiations were quick and easy. Needless to say I had quite a good dream and I will certainly be back for more. For the finer details feel free to send me a PM. Lastly Disa is about early to mid 30's, smaller frame, very nice C cups and slender body. Though I like a thicker and taller body, I was not disappointed at all by her size was in fact a plus at the end of the day!

She gave me a big hug before sending me out the door, got a bottle of water a handful of mints and chocs and headed out. Sometimes even the small details matter.

Galleon
11-05-22, 17:33
Are there multiple Apple in Tyson? The number I've been using for ages ends in 5 but I am seeing different numbers on the ad I've just come across. Is that someone different?

https://rubmd.com/washington-dc/e52876ac-3281-41e6-9662-3eb5640d23f7

OldBoomer
11-05-22, 22:37
Lost in translation.

https://us-nova.bedpage.com/femalees.../22584125.html

Sometimes I want a good massage with some happiness. There is a place on Golinski well reviewed, but backed up with mongers waiting in the lobby. So I Tofft on a place with no reviews. I liked the add and the Hinton location.

I called ahead, but I was late.

A little hard to find, but well marked when when you find the right street. Big massage posters in an office park. Nice lobby. 30 something slim lady behind a counter greets me and puts me in a nice clean room with a massage table and music.

A few minutes later a late 30's (Chinese I think) good looking provider shows (CeCe). 70 for the house. Asked me what I want, and the back and forth goes forward. We we not communicating well. She asked me for my phone number (weird). The front lady shows up and sticks her hand through the door with a phone. The lady I booked with is on the phone. Easy short negotiations with the booker; 70+50 for one hour massage and happiness. All good.

The provider proceeds with a hard firm massage. Not a bad massage; about 7/10 with a unique sit on my legs and rub ass and taint technique. About 10 minutes in I ask her if she would like a massage. She says yes, jumps off of me and strips completely naked. Dam good body. Big nipples, nice ass, bestiful, skin, a little chubby but good curves. Before laying down she says she wants $10 for me to give her a massage. This is a new one on me, but I was thinking a tip anyway so I agree. She then pulls her skirt back on! (Bait & switch) I object but she lays down with the skirt on. Well, it was a lot of fun massaging her and the skirt was lifted up and down as needed. There was some back rubbing, pussy rubbing, jacking off. After a few minutes her pussy went from dry to fountain. This was worth a tip. But then.

I ask her to turn over but she refuses. She hops off and gets fully dressed. What a bummer. I lay face up and she the gives me a 4/10 hand job. No eye contact.

We complete the deed, she cleans me up and indicates we are done.

I look at the clock and we just short of 40 minutes, so I ask for more massage. She says, no you get 45 minutes for an hour massage.

So after a little back and forth. I dress and refuse to tip due to shorting on time.

She gets pissed and offers more massage (I am dressed now) so no.

On the way out the greeter (too young to be a mamason) gives me a card with one punch out and tells me 10th one is free. I tell her CeCe is unhappy. She says don't worry about it.

If CeCe had completed the 60 minutes and left her clothes off I would have given her an extra 20.

Absent all the BS, this was a very good massage and ok happy ending session. I have to wonder if we had covered all the services and negotiations up front that we both would have left happy.

So. This is not a bad place. I suspect th FS with CECe is very good. If I go back I would make sure to agree with the provided or booker upfront and be clear that if they upswell during the session there will be no tip.

What do you think? Should I have given her the 10 spot?

AvgJoe123
11-06-22, 00:29
Lost in translation.

https://us-nova.bedpage.com/femalees.../22584125.html

Sometimes I want a good massage with some happiness. There is a place on Golinski well reviewed, but backed up with mongers waiting in the lobby. So I Tofft on a place with no reviews. I liked the add and the Hinton location.

I called ahead, but I was late.

A little hard to find, but well marked when when you find the right street. Big massage posters in an office park. Nice lobby. 30 something slim lady behind a counter greets me and puts me in a nice clean room with a massage table and music.

A few minutes later a late 30's (Chinese I think) good looking provider shows (CeCe). 70 for the house. Asked me what I want, and the back and forth goes forward. We we not communicating well. She asked me for my phone number (weird). The front lady shows up and sticks her hand through the door with a phone. The lady I booked with is on the phone. Easy short negotiations with the booker; 70+50 for one hour massage and happiness. All good.

The provider proceeds with a hard firm massage. Not a bad massage; about 7/10 with a unique sit on my legs and rub ass and taint technique. About 10 minutes in I ask her if she would like a massage. She says yes, jumps off of me and strips completely naked. Dam good body. Big nipples, nice ass, bestiful, skin, a little chubby but good curves. Before laying down she says she wants $10 for me to give her a massage. This is a new one on me, but I was thinking a tip anyway so I agree. She then pulls her skirt back on! (Bait & switch) I object but she lays down with the skirt on. Well, it was a lot of fun massaging her and the skirt was lifted up and down as needed. There was some back rubbing, pussy rubbing, jacking off. After a few minutes her pussy went from dry to fountain. This was worth a tip. But then.

I ask her to turn over but she refuses. She hops off and gets fully dressed. What a bummer. I lay face up and she the gives me a 4/10 hand job. No eye contact.

We complete the deed, she cleans me up and indicates we are done.

I look at the clock and we just short of 40 minutes, so I ask for more massage. She says, no you get 45 minutes for an hour massage.

So after a little back and forth. I dress and refuse to tip due to shorting on time.

She gets pissed and offers more massage (I am dressed now) so no.

On the way out the greeter (too young to be a mamason) gives me a card with one punch out and tells me 10th one is free. I tell her CeCe is unhappy. She says don't worry about it.

If CeCe had completed the 60 minutes and left her clothes off I would have given her an extra 20.

Absent all the BS, this was a very good massage and ok happy ending session. I have to wonder if we had covered all the services and negotiations up front that we both would have left happy.

So. This is not a bad place. I suspect th FS with CECe is very good. If I go back I would make sure to agree with the provided or booker upfront and be clear that if they upswell during the session there will be no tip.

What do you think? Should I have given her the 10 spot?Here is the correct link from the other post.

https://us-nova.bedpage.com/femaleescorts/alexandria-woodbridge/22584125.html

Member #6802
11-06-22, 07:32
Lost in translation.

https://us-nova.bedpage.com/femalees.../22584125.html

Sometimes I want a good massage with some happiness. There is a place on Golinski well reviewed, but backed up with mongers waiting in the lobby. So I Tofft on a place with no reviews. I liked the add and the Hinton location.

I called ahead, but I was late.

A little hard to find, but well marked when when you find the right street. Big massage posters in an office park. Nice lobby. 30 something slim lady behind a counter greets me and puts me in a nice clean room with a massage table and music.

A few minutes later a late 30's (Chinese I think) good looking provider shows (CeCe). 70 for the house. Asked me what I want, and the back and forth goes forward. We we not communicating well. She asked me for my phone number (weird). The front lady shows up and sticks her hand through the door with a phone. The lady I booked with is on the phone. Easy short negotiations with the booker; 70+50 for one hour massage and happiness. All good.

The provider proceeds with a hard firm massage. Not a bad massage; about 7/10 with a unique sit on my legs and rub ass and taint technique. About 10 minutes in I ask her if she would like a massage. She says yes, jumps off of me and strips completely naked. Dam good body. Big nipples, nice ass, bestiful, skin, a little chubby but good curves. Before laying down she says she wants $10 for me to give her a massage. This is a new one on me, but I was thinking a tip anyway so I agree. She then pulls her skirt back on! (Bait & switch) I object but she lays down with the skirt on. Well, it was a lot of fun massaging her and the skirt was lifted up and down as needed. There was some back rubbing, pussy rubbing, jacking off. After a few minutes her pussy went from dry to fountain. This was worth a tip. But then.

I ask her to turn over but she refuses. She hops off and gets fully dressed. What a bummer. I lay face up and she the gives me a 4/10 hand job. No eye contact.

We complete the deed, she cleans me up and indicates we are done.

I look at the clock and we just short of 40 minutes, so I ask for more massage. She says, no you get 45 minutes for an hour massage.

So after a little back and forth. I dress and refuse to tip due to shorting on time.

She gets pissed and offers more massage (I am dressed now) so no.

On the way out the greeter (too young to be a mamason) gives me a card with one punch out and tells me 10th one is free. I tell her CeCe is unhappy. She says don't worry about it.

If CeCe had completed the 60 minutes and left her clothes off I would have given her an extra 20.

Absent all the BS, this was a very good massage and ok happy ending session. I have to wonder if we had covered all the services and negotiations up front that we both would have left happy.

So. This is not a bad place. I suspect th FS with CECe is very good. If I go back I would make sure to agree with the provided or booker upfront and be clear that if they upswell during the session there will be no tip.

What do you think? Should I have given her the 10 spot?Saw the same bedpage ad and did Google map search of Woodbridge address. It shows a hotel. Can you give name of place so if someone wants to TOFTT they can find it easier?

Serpico99
11-06-22, 08:58
Lost in translation.

https://us-nova.bedpage.com/femalees.../22584125.html

Sometimes I want a good massage with some happiness. There is a place on Golinski well reviewed, but backed up with mongers waiting in the lobby. So I Tofft on a place with no reviews. I liked the add and the Hinton location.

I called ahead, but I was late.

A little hard to find, but well marked when when you find the right street. Big massage posters in an office park. Nice lobby. 30 something slim lady behind a counter greets me and puts me in a nice clean room with a massage table and music.

A few minutes later a late 30's (Chinese I think) good looking provider shows (CeCe). 70 for the house. Asked me what I want, and the back and forth goes forward. We we not communicating well. She asked me for my phone number (weird). The front lady shows up and sticks her hand through the door with a phone. The lady I booked with is on the phone. Easy short negotiations with the booker; 70+50 for one hour massage and happiness. All good.

The provider proceeds with a hard firm massage. Not a bad massage; about 7/10 with a unique sit on my legs and rub ass and taint technique. About 10 minutes in I ask her if she would like a massage. She says yes, jumps off of me and strips completely naked. Dam good body. Big nipples, nice ass, bestiful, skin, a little chubby but good curves. Before laying down she says she wants $10 for me to give her a massage. This is a new one on me, but I was thinking a tip anyway so I agree. She then pulls her skirt back on! (Bait & switch) I object but she lays down with the skirt on. Well, it was a lot of fun massaging her and the skirt was lifted up and down as needed. There was some back rubbing, pussy rubbing, jacking off. After a few minutes her pussy went from dry to fountain. This was worth a tip. But then.

I ask her to turn over but she refuses. She hops off and gets fully dressed. What a bummer. I lay face up and she the gives me a 4/10 hand job. No eye contact.

We complete the deed, she cleans me up and indicates we are done.

I look at the clock and we just short of 40 minutes, so I ask for more massage. She says, no you get 45 minutes for an hour massage.

So after a little back and forth. I dress and refuse to tip due to shorting on time.

She gets pissed and offers more massage (I am dressed now) so no.

On the way out the greeter (too young to be a mamason) gives me a card with one punch out and tells me 10th one is free. I tell her CeCe is unhappy. She says don't worry about it.

If CeCe had completed the 60 minutes and left her clothes off I would have given her an extra 20.

Absent all the BS, this was a very good massage and ok happy ending session. I have to wonder if we had covered all the services and negotiations up front that we both would have left happy.

So. This is not a bad place. I suspect th FS with CECe is very good. If I go back I would make sure to agree with the provided or booker upfront and be clear that if they upswell during the session there will be no tip.

What do you think? Should I have given her the 10 spot?Just to be clear because you used the $ symbol in your post. 70 for "1 hour" and 50 tip is what was agreed to before the massage started. You tipped another 10 at her request to do a massage on her. After the deed was done, she wanted additional tip. So she is getting 60 tip, unless there is some arrangement she has with the "management" where they get a cut of her tips. Or did you tip 110 ($10) before massaging her? Either way, I don't see the value of this place, unless you are in need of being touched by a younger provider than what is normally available in this area. Crappy massage, crappy finish, shorted on time, your wallet is a bit lighter. What am I missing?

On the flip side, sometimes the first visit at a new place is a miss but since you know what to expect now, your next visit may go smoother if play your cards right and as you said, you make sure to agree with the booker or provider upfront and be clear what your expectations are. None of this "lost in translation" b. S. Since their ad is bluntly straighforward on what you can expect, unless they don't really know what their advertiser is posting on the internet LOL.

Eddie223
11-06-22, 13:50
https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/woodbridge-va/22588252.html

Hopefully this entire post isn't giant text from me posting that link. Using my phone.

I guess grand opening was yesterday. I called ahead, they advised they are cash only right now. As that's my preference I went over. Was met at the door by Lily who appears to be mamasan. She is one of those girls who age is hard to guess, maybe 40's. She was wearing jeans and a shirt when I came in. She led me to a room and asked how long. I asked if there was a TA and she confirmed there was. So I paid. 8 for an hour. She told me someone else would be my provider.

Soon Roofie came into the room to take me to the shower. She's older, guessing 50's. She was grabbing my penis as soon as the towel dropped in the TS. Lots of play and attention to the butthole in the TS.

Massage, I asked for medium. Got lots of back walking and several good stretches. On the flip I wasn't sure Ind several good stretches. Also Lily came in and did some 4 hands for a bit. This is day 2, pretty sure it's a YMMV thing.

On the flip I wasn't sure I wanted FS but I was on a TOFTT mission. Wasn't an option and she played language barrier on the request for a BJ. Didn't get that either. However she asked if I would take care of her and I agreed. She ended up doing bare B2 B, P2 P?, facing front then back. I fingered the kitty and found she like her butthole rubbed.

Over all I believe this is a rub shop, not going to compete with Pine and Rte 1 for services. When I left Lily had changed to a nice short dress, she suggested I could see next time. Also I was advised Roofie works Saturday and Sunday, different girls during the week.

The place is a little hard to find. It's Lake Ridge Dr, not Lake Bridge. It's Suite B which is a bit hard to find. It's lower level which is all the way around the back to access. This also makes it super discrete.

If you go during the week, please let me know what the weekday girls are like.

Edit; I paid $.4 for tip which seems like a bit of an over pay? Never done the P2P so not sure how that is normally priced. Her HJ skill was on point and took direction well.

DCKing
11-06-22, 19:17
Haven't been here since Lilly used to work here. Anyone good here these days? Anybody been recently?

NyHornet
11-06-22, 19:26
https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/woodbridge-va/22588252.html

Hopefully this entire post isn't giant text from me posting that link. Using my phone.

I guess grand opening was yesterday. I called ahead, they advised they are cash only right now. As that's my preference I went over. Was met at the door by Lily who appears to be mamasan. She is one of those girls who age is hard to guess, maybe 40's. She was wearing jeans and a shirt when I came in. She led me to a room and asked how long. I asked if there was a TA and she confirmed there was. So I paid. 8 for an hour. She told me someone else would be my provider.

Soon Roofie came into the room to take me to the shower. She's older, guessing 50's. She was grabbing my penis as soon as the towel dropped in the TS. Lots of play and attention to the butthole in the TS.


Massage, I asked for medium. Got lots of back walking and several good stretches. On the flip I wasn't sure Ind several good stretches. Also Lily came in and did some 4 hands for a bit. This is day 2, pretty sure it's a YMMV thing.

On the flip I wasn't sure I wanted FS but I was on a TOFTT mission. Wasn't an option and she played language barrier on the request for a BJ. Didn't get that either. However she asked if I would take care of her and I agreed. She ended up doing bare B2 B, P2 P?, facing front then back. I fingered the kitty and found she like her butthole rubbed.

Over all I believe this is a rub shop, not going to compete with Pine and Rte 1 for services. When I left Lily had changed to a nice short dress, she suggested I could see next time. Also I was advised Roofie works Saturday and Sunday, different girls during the week.

The place is a little hard to find. It's Lake Ridge Dr, not Lake Bridge. It's Suite B which is a bit hard to find. It's lower level which is all the way around the back to access. This also makes it super discrete.

If you go during the week, please let me know what the weekday girls are like.

Edit; I paid $.4 for tip which seems like a bit of an over pay? Never done the P2P so not sure how that is normally priced. Her HJ skill was on point and took direction well.$1. 4 is a FS rate and even high for that depending on the AMP and lady. Probably $80-&100 would have been adequate. No wonder Lily wants to see you next time.

Eddie223
11-07-22, 08:19
$1. 4 is a FS rate and even high for that depending on the AMP and lady. Probably $80-&100 would have been adequate. No wonder Lily wants to see you next time.Tip was made at the very end. I felt like it was much but I did get some 4 hand time as well as P2 P all of which I never did before. Plus some happy small head was in okay. Not sure I'll be repeating just because there are FS AMPs as well as much less expensive reliable ACS and LCS in the area. I primarily went to check out something new.

LocalCustomer
11-07-22, 14:22
Where are all the young, attractive masseuses? Had no problem in Los Angeles, but here is really disappointing. Tried rubmaps, but reviews are always misleading, inaccurate, or the massage parlor itself does a bait-and-switch with an old hag.

Member #6802
11-07-22, 17:46
Where are all the young, attractive masseuses? Had no problem in Los Angeles, but here is really disappointing. Tried rubmaps, but reviews are always misleading, inaccurate, or the massage parlor itself does a bait-and-switch with an old hag.Completely agree. While most of my adventures have been limited to Woodbridge area, yet to meet an Asian MT younger than estimated 40 years old up here.

However, further south, in Fredericksburg area met some that were definitely in their 20's. https://adultsearch.com/virginia/fredericksburg/body-rubs/2444024.

I saw 2 ladies there and the one who gave me "massage" said she was 29 but looked 21. The other, not as petite kind of cute was pretty and not older than 30.

The menu is open but don't visit for good massage.

SuzhiLang
11-07-22, 18:45
Where are all the young, attractive masseuses? Had no problem in Los Angeles, but here is really disappointing. Tried rubmaps, but reviews are always misleading, inaccurate, or the massage parlor itself does a bait-and-switch with an old hag.To save you some time and effort searching, they don't exist in NOVA.

PoppiGrande202
11-07-22, 22:47
To save you some time and effort searching, they don't exist in NOVA.Manhattan. Hands down.

Harold Myers
11-07-22, 22:50
Where are all the young, attractive masseuses? Had no problem in Los Angeles, but here is really disappointing. Tried rubmaps, but reviews are always misleading, inaccurate, or the massage parlor itself does a bait-and-switch with an old hag.Yo, guys on here are here to help. That's the purpose of this board. But your history is suspect. I mean you have the opportunity to take offense to one calling you out on the BS. And I don't mind.

But unless your other account was blocked you have not made one contribution. I'm calling CAP!

I believe you are LEO. At least TOFTT! And then start making comments as such. What you are looking for is available. But heck, I know I have had to fork over some dough to get information and then bring it back to the board. I believe you should do the same.

Happy Guy 2
11-07-22, 22:52
I know I am in danger of ruining my reputation, but today I had an hour to kill and realized that in years of going to AMPs, I had never gotten a massage that I could remember as a "real" massage. Since I did not have a horny itch, I thought where do they still give legit massages?

Ended up at JJ Massage on Berry Street in Vienna. Walked in and met Amy. She was available and the fee (inflation since Covid) was $65. Paid my 65 and was led to a room. When she came in (she has a limp) she asked what type of massage I wanted. I said hard and my legs were tight and sore.

She went to work and did an amazingly strong job. She did get up on table also and used her feet. Technique was deep and hitting the nerves running up and down my body. It hurt and was wonderful at the same time. Just what the Dr ordered. I kept my hands to myself just to make sure I did not give off any hanky lanky signals. I just enjoyed the delightful beating she was giving me.

She worked her tail off (no pun intended) and I thoroughly enjoyed myself and gave her a nice tip for all the efforts she put into the session.

I shall return.

- Looks, boobs, and no smile (mask) did not matter. Attitude and massage was great.

Always be nice to the ladies and they will be nice to you.

I did leave there with I smile, laughing at myself for how good I felt with a real massage.

HG.

Happy Guy 2
11-07-22, 23:07
Yo, guys on here are here to help. That's the purpose of this board. But your history is suspect. I mean you have the opportunity to take offense to one calling you out on the BS. And I don't mind.

But unless your other account was blocked you have not made one contribution. I'm calling CAP!

I believe you are LEO. At least TOFTT! And then start making comments as such. What you are looking for is available. But heck, I know I have had to fork over some dough to get information and then bring it back to the board. I believe you should do the same.Agree with you. Tried to send a PM but it said your mailbox is full.

HG.

PilotAviator
11-08-22, 01:12
I know I am in danger of ruining my reputation, but today I had an hour to kill and realized that in years of going to AMPs, I had never gotten a massage that I could remember as a "real" massage. Since I did not have a horny itch, I thought where do they still give legit massages?

Ended up at JJ Massage on Berry Street in Vienna. Walked in and met Amy. She was available and the fee (inflation since Covid) was $65. Paid my 65 and was led to a room. When she came in (she has a limp) she asked what type of massage I wanted. I said hard and my legs were tight and sore.

She went to work and did an amazingly strong job. She did get up on table also and used her feet. Technique was deep and hitting the nerves running up and down my body. It hurt and was wonderful at the same time. Just what the Dr ordered. I kept my hands to myself just to make sure I did not give off any hanky lanky signals. I just enjoyed the delightful beating she was giving me.

She worked her tail off (no pun intended) and I thoroughly enjoyed myself and gave her a nice tip for all the efforts she put into the session.

I shall return.

- Looks, boobs, and no smile (mask) did not matter. Attitude and massage was great.

Always be nice to the ladies and they will be nice to you.

I did leave there with I smile, laughing at myself for how good I felt with a real massage.

HG.Agree with HG, but want to add, many of the ladies can (and do) provide excellent massages. Ladies I have reviewed with fantastic massage include Vicki (best. Never be in a hurry when you make an appointment), Tara (and KK), and Leah.

All the other ladies with whom I regularly schedule body work also give good (but short of excellent) massages.

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.

FreeBlastOff
11-08-22, 06:52
Recent dreams.

Eleven, Tyco rd.

Older provider, I'd guess 60's. I started to ask for another or walk, but sometimes ya just want to see what happens.

Massage started a little weird, but was decent once things settled in. Average to above average.

NOVA finish was also slightly above average. Not rushed, and decent technique.

Finished with leg and face massage, most of the hour used.

I won't repeat with this particular provider, too many younger available.

Barkeater
11-08-22, 13:58
I'm pretty sure that if you try Eleven in Herndon you won't have the same experience.

Be Safe.

--BE.


Recent dreams.

Eleven, Tyco rd.

Older provider, I'd guess 60's. I started to ask for another or walk, but sometimes ya just want to see what happens.

Massage started a little weird, but was decent once things settled in. Average to above average.

NOVA finish was also slightly above average. Not rushed, and decent technique.

Finished with leg and face massage, most of the hour used.

I won't repeat with this particular provider, too many younger available.

Rowser
11-08-22, 14:17
Completely agree. While most of my adventures have been limited to Woodbridge area, yet to meet an Asian MT younger than estimated 40 years old up here.

However, further south, in Fredericksburg area met some that were definitely in their 20's. https://adultsearch.com/virginia/fredericksburg/body-rubs/2444024.

I saw 2 ladies there and the one who gave me "massage" said she was 29 but looked 21. The other, not as petite kind of cute was pretty and not older than 30.

The menu is open but don't visit for good massage.I've been debating paying this place a visit. Seen some mixed reviews. Anyone else had similar experiences here? Name of one of the younger providers? PM me please. I'll be in the area tomorrow. If I do check it out I'll leave some comments in the forum.

BarneySanders
11-08-22, 16:39
I know I am in danger of ruining my reputation, but today I had an hour to kill and realized that in years of going to AMPs, I had never gotten a massage that I could remember as a "real" massage. Since I did not have a horny itch, I thought where do they still give legit massages?

Ended up at JJ Massage on Berry Street in Vienna. Walked in and met Amy. She was available and the fee (inflation since Covid) was $65. Paid my 65 and was led to a room. When she came in (she has a limp) she asked what type of massage I wanted. I said hard and my legs were tight and sore.

She went to work and did an amazingly strong job. She did get up on table also and used her feet. Technique was deep and hitting the nerves running up and down my body. It hurt and was wonderful at the same time. Just what the Dr ordered. I kept my hands to myself just to make sure I did not give off any hanky lanky signals. I just enjoyed the delightful beating she was giving me.

She worked her tail off (no pun intended) and I thoroughly enjoyed myself and gave her a nice tip for all the efforts she put into the session.

I shall return.

- Looks, boobs, and no smile (mask) did not matter. Attitude and massage was great.

Always be nice to the ladies and they will be nice to you.

I did leave there with I smile, laughing at myself for how good I felt with a real massage.

HG.My landscape guy recommends K&H on Old Courthouse or Joy on Church St Vienna. YMMV.

Rhinopole
11-08-22, 17:25
Yesterday and today calls to Papaya in Annandale were answered by a machine saying mailbox was full. I checked the number and it's the one on their website. Anyone else have this happen? I wonder if they're changing owners. If anyone knows something about this please post. Thanks.

Rhino.

Skooby
11-08-22, 18:56
Agree with HG, but want to add, many of the ladies can (and do) provide excellent massages. Ladies I have reviewed with fantastic massage include Vicki (best. Never be in a hurry when you make an appointment), Tara (and KK), and Leah.


All the other ladies with whom I regularly schedule body work also give good (but short of excellent) massages.

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.Vicki at lucky therapy? Always read good reviews on her but never been. Can someone possibly describe her? Been sticking to Indy's for a while. Seems she'll be in demand and I'll just want to see her.

Eddie223
11-08-22, 20:22
Completely agree. While most of my adventures have been limited to Woodbridge area, yet to meet an Asian MT younger than estimated 40 years old up here.

However, further south, in Fredericksburg area met some that were definitely in their 20's. https://adultsearch.com/virginia/fredericksburg/body-rubs/2444024.

I saw 2 ladies there and the one who gave me "massage" said she was 29 but looked 21. The other, not as petite kind of cute was pretty and not older than 30.

The menu is open but don't visit for good massage.Several girls I've seen at Rte 1 were in their 30's and the only 20 something I've seen at an AMP was there. However I've also gotten massages from a few in their 40's as well.

The girls at Pine have been on the older side but also have been higher quality providers, I mean like doing keegles (sp?) and been more creative in positions.

I still venture to other areas to explore but we have it pretty good in Woodbridge imo. The AMP / LCS / ACS opportunity is maybe the only positive about the area. Which might be saying something LOL.

Happy Guy 2
11-08-22, 22:12
Agree with HG, but want to add, many of the ladies can (and do) provide excellent massages. Ladies I have reviewed with fantastic massage include Vicki (best. Never be in a hurry when you make an appointment), Tara (and KK), and Leah.

All the other ladies with whom I regularly schedule body work also give good (but short of excellent) massages.

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.The reason I don't usually get a good massage at a non legit place is entirely my fault.

I initiate play pretty fast if the gal is attractive.

My bad!

(BTW, I have also gotten non-legit massages at legit places. Some enjoy the play too and probably the increased tips.).

Ha. LOL.

HG.

OrZammar
11-09-22, 11:01
Where are all the young, attractive masseuses? Had no problem in Los Angeles, but here is really disappointing. Tried rubmaps, but reviews are always misleading, inaccurate, or the massage parlor itself does a bait-and-switch with an old hag.They're all back in LA, presumably. You're in the wrong area now, dude. DC area is generally the area everyone comes to once they're past their prime.

OldBoomer
11-09-22, 14:33
Just to be clear because you used the $ symbol in your post. 70 for "1 hour" and 50 tip is what was agreed to before the massage started. You tipped another 10 at her request to do a massage on her. After the deed was done, she wanted additional tip. So she is getting 60 tip, unless there is some arrangement she has with the "management" where they get a cut of her tips. Or did you tip 110 ($10) before massaging her? Either way, I don't see the value of this place, unless you are in need of being touched by a younger provider than what is normally available in this area. Crappy massage, crappy finish, shorted on time, your wallet is a bit lighter. What am I missing?

On the flip side, sometimes the first visit at a new place is a miss but since you know what to expect now, your next visit may go smoother if play your cards right and as you said, you make sure to agree with the booker or provider upfront and be clear what your expectations are. None of this "lost in translation" b. S. Since their ad is bluntly straightforward on what you can expect, unless they don't really know what their advertiser is posting on the internet LOL.A couple of clarifications:

1) To be clear, because she shorted me 25% of the time, I refused to give her the agreed upon extra tip for me giving her a massage.

2) The massage she gave me was quite good. It was not CMT level but it was good. Also the ass and taint massage was unique to me and also quite good.

3) I did enjoy giving her a massage.

That said, shorting by 15 minutes is not ok.

Also to the post about the location at a Woodbridge hotel, read the add. There are two locations given. I did not goo to the hotel.

SlyFrog
11-09-22, 15:47
This review could go in many sections but I chose this one since these Thai ladies mostly advertise massage and this is the section that I see most of the info on them. Alexa mostly advertises on Craigslist but I recently saw an add for her on escort Alligator. 200 for 30 minutes is a great deal for a lady this hot that includes the services that she provided. All pictures that I have seen of her are real but do not show all of her tattoos. She is super hot and the price is all inclusive. I don't think any of the other Thai girls are this hot, for this price point. If there are others, please share! Massage was only OK, but every thing else was awesome.

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bts/7550967232.html

SlyFrog
11-09-22, 16:06
For the Tysons area, I think the two hotest ladies working at spas are Celene at Pallace and Tiffany at Vivi spa on Tyco rd.

Both stripped for me for an extra 100. Celene is Korean and speaks much better english. Tiffany is Chinese and I think she is a little younger.

100 gets you more action with Celene. If someone knows of better spa options in the Tysons aria please share, but that is the best I can find.


Where are all the young, attractive masseuses? Had no problem in Los Angeles, but here is really disappointing. Tried rubmaps, but reviews are always misleading, inaccurate, or the massage parlor itself does a bait-and-switch with an old hag.

Stroon78
11-09-22, 16:18
This review could go in many sections but I chose this one since these Thai ladies mostly advertise massage and this is the section that I see most of the info on them. Alexa mostly advertises on Craigslist but I recently saw an add for her on escort Alligator. 200 for 30 minutes is a great deal for a lady this hot that includes the services that she provided. All pictures that I have seen of her are real but do not show all of her tattoos. She is super hot and the price is all inclusive. I don't think any of the other Thai girls are this hot, for this price point. If there are others, please share! Massage was only OK, but every thing else was awesome.

https://washingtondc.craigslist.org/nva/bts/7550967232.htmlI have seen Alexa maybe a dozen times over the years. I agree with your assessment but what I will add is that her demeanor can be a little stand offish or cold at times. I think that is just her and she isn't really a cold *****. She also doesn't do any kissing but someone at this price point doesn't typically include any GFE type services. I will say her breast are amazing but fake of course. Massage is just so so. Sometimes I would go just to smash and pass on the massage.

SlyFrog
11-09-22, 16:50
Any legit spas that have any good looking ladies? Someone has to know. Back chanel if you have too. Probably makes sense for legit massage. Thanks. I know there are great independents but looking to save some cash.

Member #6802
11-09-22, 17:58
Recent dreams.

Eleven, Tyco rd.

Older provider, I'd guess 60's. I started to ask for another or walk, but sometimes ya just want to see what happens.

Massage started a little weird, but was decent once things settled in. Average to above average.

NOVA finish was also slightly above average. Not rushed, and decent technique.

Finished with leg and face massage, most of the hour used.

I won't repeat with this particular provider, too many younger available.You met Nana at Enliven. For those mongers who like older, but still playful, she's the lady to visit.

Agree, massage was average to good. But she was very playful, fair priced menu, and I left with fond memories. IMHO, she was so fun and knew how to get the tension out, I visited her a 2nd time the next day (errands had me back in that area and decided it was worth stopping by).

I'd go back eventually but like you, on a quest for younger first.

Member #6802
11-09-22, 18:39
I decided to try an unvisited AMP after business in Newington area ended much sooner than planned.

Closest one was Prince Therapy on Backlick Rd. Paid the. 8 for massage and TS. MT was mid to late 40's, Korean with nice butt and tits. The TS and massage were "average" with some parts of back & leg massage actually pretty good. Just my opinion, but wasn't aroused by the way every question or answer ended with ". ,baby. " Personally find that annoying because we don't know each other, stop the fake intimate pet name calling.

On the flip, the massage ended and negotiations started. Just wanted standard NOVA HJ but she balked at the. 4 yet started on of the most boring HJs I've ever had. Upsold finish to full nude, suck titties, FIV and facesitting for $. 4 At first she seemed to be into it, but doorbell rang (next customer) which she had to answer; came back in different mood and things seemed rushed.

Decent finish and she was still friendly, but definitely wanted me to get dressed and get gone.

Would suggest only if you're in neighborhood. I won't go back though. Too many other places to visit. Wish I had taken the time to drive back to Woodbridge and did HH with a place there.

BushWood
11-09-22, 19:22
https://rubmd.com/washington-dc/cc33feab-6e3f-4fa4-9dd2-3d0ae7c7c88f

TOFTT on a review less new provider. Found out on the flip that she was hiding a pretty pronounced fupa under some baggy clothes, not a pleasant surprise. Normally I'd let it go but this photo was so ridiculously unrepresentative that I had to let you guys in on the intel.

EDog65
11-09-22, 22:40
I was thinking of seeing Kim again from when she was at Queen, but Pine intrigues me. Which Pine? Woodbridge, Fairfax, Herndon?Woodbridge.

SwiftChariot
11-10-22, 12:20
https://rubmd.com/washington-dc/cc33feab-6e3f-4fa4-9dd2-3d0ae7c7c88f

TOFTT on a review less new provider. Found out on the flip that she was hiding a pretty pronounced fupa under some baggy clothes, not a pleasant surprise. Normally I'd let it go but this photo was so ridiculously unrepresentative that I had to let you guys in on the intel.This is the rebranding of Gina, she hangs out with Lisa now.

SwiftChariot
11-10-22, 12:26
Made my usual appointment with my Latina friend who provides a legit massage (so far) and noticed there was a spa in the same area. My blue balls took me over there after the Latina massage and met a nice Korean girl in early 40's. Small two room shop with doors. CFS was available, but I passed cause we didn't click. 50 hhr, 70 Hr, worth it for those who don't have stamina.

Sex Rohmer
11-10-22, 14:24
Made my usual appointment with my Latina friend who provides a legit massage (so far) and noticed there was a spa in the same area. My blue balls took me over there after the Latina massage and met a nice Korean girl in early 40's. Small two room shop with doors. CFS was available, but I passed cause we didn't click. 50 hhr, 70 Hr, worth it for those who don't have stamina.I am pretty sure there are 2 AMPs next to Healthy Spa. New Star and Zen. Zen usually reports are DIY, New Star is Korean with a full menu. Can you confirm which you visited?

JackGolfer53
11-10-22, 21:20
This is the rebranding of Gina, she hangs out with Lisa now.Thanks for the heads up, made that mistake in the past.

EDog65
11-11-22, 07:11
Any of you frequenting any spots where the girls actually like to kiss during the session and who are good at it? I really enjoy it when I can get a nice sensual HE or more with a girl who doesn't shy away from some lip and tongue action. Let me know what you've run into recently.

RickKrungThep
11-11-22, 08:53
You were so close to another spa in the same office complex. New Star. A couple weeks back I ventured in to check it out. I have a lasting memory of my visit. After the table shower my therapist led me back to the massage room using junior as a leash. That pretty much set the tone for the next hour and a memory I will likely not forget.Thanks for posting. I generally have enjoyed the table showers where the sweet lady holds my hand to and from around NOVA, generally in Chantilly and Annandale. I think you exceeded that for some reason when you posted "I have a lasting memory of my visit. After the table shower my therapist led me back to the massage room using junior as a leash. " Yes that has to be the table shower of the year! I have not made it over there to New Star yet but hope to get there while this sweet lady is still there. Thanks again.

XxWhole
11-11-22, 14:42
Saw a new review added on rm. Hopeful that we are getting out of lmp monopoly exploitation. Anyone been there yet?

LoveDemAzn
11-11-22, 16:55
I was wondering how much you guys tips for a 90 minutes session. I heard you suppose to tip 2 x the normal rate of 1 hr session.

CharlieChan
11-11-22, 17:51
You were so close to another spa in the same office complex. New Star. A couple weeks back I ventured in to check it out. I have a lasting memory of my visit. After the table shower my therapist led me back to the massage room using junior as a leash. That pretty much set the tone for the next hour and a memory I will likely not forget.I did not have the same experience. My provider was old, unattractive, and not in good physical condition. I paid for an hour but got 45 minutes. The massage was legitimate.

Asphalt
11-11-22, 22:07
I had a very narrow window to satisfy an urge which I hadn't been able to satisfy for a couple weeks. Just east of 395 on Rt 7 is why G Spa and Golden Spa. Which one to choose? I settled on why G and wasn't impressed. The boxy older lady that met me at the door was my provider. She was about 5'3" and reminded me of a sumo wrestler. Very nice though and capable of giving a very good massage. Unfortunately she didn't. But boy was a I backed up. After about 15 minutes of a pretty good massage she breaks out the hot towels, quite number of them and they were surely hot. I heard her take off some clothes, then she climbed on to to rub her rather nice D breasts over my back and butt.

Ok, no need to drag this out. Paid her 1. 0 for nude and a standing butt slide to finish, and she still shorted me 15 minutes. Her name was Maya. If I'm in the same situation again I'll default to Golden Spa and role the dice there.

RedRocks1968
11-12-22, 01:05
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If you ever put up another post suggesting that a guy beat a woman you're banned. I know you thought you were being funny but you weren't.

A2

ThaiMeUp1
11-12-22, 07:31
Longtime lurker. TOFTT and saw Jasmine after reading reviews on the oThER site. She's here for a few months. Pic is accurate. Prices listed. Works out of a nice apt. Complex in Fairfax.

Highly recommend. Great attitude and services. Nice body.

https://rubmd.com/washington-dc/aa5b5d37-6da0-4700-9977-cd3e30b8c107

Treat her well.

Harley Dude 29
11-12-22, 09:33
I have seen ads for several months about a new place on Old Lee Hwy in Fairfax. The ad looked enticing and research here showed a mention or two but nothing confirmed. So I decided to TOFTT.

https://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/571-457-8003new-asian-girlssex/610970929824

First visit was for 30 minutes with Coco who was a middle aged lady, not bad looking but she was dressed in a medical type pant and top. She gave a decent light massage as requested, but not sensual at all. Attempts to rub her leg resulted in her stepping away. She went 30 minutes and said time was up, and did I want to extend my time. I declined so I could cut losses. She asked if it was my first visit early on and I said it was, so maybe that was a mistake. Anyway, no happiness on this visit.

Decided to give it a second try and went in and a old lady, short but stocky was there. Her name was Anna. Figured maybe I'd get lucky as I have with other older ladies in the past. Went for the hour. Massage was light as requested, very nice hands and rub, but she steered close to things, but never really grazed or touched as most do. Attempts to rub her legs resulted in stepping away out of reach. I thought there was no way it would end unhappy, but it did. She went right up to the hour and then said time was up.

So two times and unhappy both times. I have no problem with legit places, but if they are legit, they should not do a STG ad like the one above. I am starting to see a pattern where many of the Chinese places that are legit appear to hire these firms to post on STG with a similar ad. I guess it brings them one time or in my stupidity, 2 time visitors.

If anyone else has a positive experience here, I would love to know, as it is very convenient.

JayCramer80
11-12-22, 11:16
I was wondering how much you guys tips for a 90 minutes session. I heard you suppose to tip 2 x the normal rate of 1 hr session.You tip based on the service provided. There is no 2 X the normal rate standard. Its up to you.

The girl gets a percentage of the house fee too, so she is making a little more for the 90 minute session.

PrivatePyle
11-12-22, 11:24
I had a very narrow window to satisfy an urge which I hadn't been able to satisfy for a couple weeks. Just east of 395 on Rt 7 is why G Spa and Golden Spa. Which one to choose? I settled on why G and wasn't impressed. The boxy older lady that met me at the door was my provider. She was about 5'3" and reminded me of a sumo wrestler. Very nice though and capable of giving a very good massage. Unfortunately she didn't. But boy was a I backed up. After about 15 minutes of a pretty good massage she breaks out the hot towels, quite number of them and they were surely hot. I heard her take off some clothes, then she climbed on to to rub her rather nice D breasts over my back and butt.

Ok, no need to drag this out. Paid her 1. 0 for nude and a standing butt slide to finish, and she still shorted me 15 minutes. Her name was Maya. If I'm in the same situation again I'll default to Golden Spa and role the dice there.I had exactly the same experience as Asphalt. I agree with the quality of the massage but extras were not worth it. I have not tried the neighboring establishments but have had quality massages at Oaks Massage that is down the road. Oaks does not offer much, if anything, above standard fare, but I always get quality effort from nice women who never short me on time. And that is worth return visits.

ThaiMeUp1
11-12-22, 13:28
I was wondering how much you guys tips for a 90 minutes session. I heard you suppose to tip 2 x the normal rate of 1 hr session.I tip based on services provided not based on length of session.

Adam2238
11-12-22, 13:38
Haven't been here since Lilly used to work here. Anyone good here these days? Anybody been recently?Are you talking about the lily with the FAAAAT booty? Anyone know what happened to her? That thing was heavenly LOL.

RedRocks1968
11-12-22, 17:58
It's a great place, and now my ATF is gone. I had her number but lost it when I got a new phone I guess. Anyone with intel about Katie's location now please PM me. Thanks.

OldBoomer
11-12-22, 18:34
http://asianhotstonemassageinc.com/

Sometimes you just want a massage.

There are several places reviewed in Vienna. For those closer to Franconia, this is a good option.

Very easy set up and parking. Clean straightforward office space. Good solid economical massage.

Nothing more, nothing less.

Serpico99
11-12-22, 18:41
Saw a new review added on rm. Hopeful that we are getting out of lmp monopoly exploitation. Anyone been there yet?I read the review and follow on comments which suggested you are getting an over priced HJ and nothing more was on the menu.

XxWhole
11-12-22, 22:26
I read the review and follow on comments which suggested you are getting an over priced HJ and nothing more was on the menu.Oh that's disappointing. Quality of service is going down the drain in nova with all the shorting of time, bait and switch, and grannies acting like they are the prize.

DCKing
11-12-22, 23:21
Yup! Lilly was amazing.


Are you talking about the lily with the FAAAAT booty? Anyone know what happened to her? That thing was heavenly LOL.

OldBoomer
11-13-22, 08:29
I have seen ads for several months about a new place on Old Lee Hwy in Fairfax. The ad looked enticing and research here showed a mention or two but nothing confirmed. So I decided to TOFTT.

https://northern-virginia.skipthegames.com/massage/asian/571-457-8003new-asian-girlssex/610970929824

First visit was for 30 minutes with Coco who was a middle aged lady, not bad looking but she was dressed in a medical type pant and top. She gave a decent light massage as requested, but not sensual at all. Attempts to rub her leg resulted in her stepping away. She went 30 minutes and said time was up, and did I want to extend my time. I declined so I could cut losses. She asked if it was my first visit early on and I said it was, so maybe that was a mistake. Anyway, no happiness on this visit.

Decided to give it a second try and went in and a old lady, short but stocky was there. Her name was Anna. Figured maybe I'd get lucky as I have with other older ladies in the past. Went for the hour. Massage was light as requested, very nice hands and rub, but she steered close to things, but never really grazed or touched as most do. Attempts to rub her legs resulted in stepping away out of reach. I thought there was no way it would end unhappy, but it did. She went right up to the hour and then said time was up.

So two times and unhappy both times. I have no problem with legit places, but if they are legit, they should not do a STG ad like the one above. I am starting to see a pattern where many of the Chinese places that are legit appear to hire these firms to post on STG with a similar ad. I guess it brings them one time or in my stupidity, 2 time visitors.

If anyone else has a positive experience here, I would love to know, as it is very convenient.Here ARE quotes from their add.

Jubilant explosions.

⭐We are highly trained in the art of pleasure and we know how to please even the most demanding man.

⭐We will rub our hot delicious bodies all over you as we massage you with the pleasure that will blow your mind.

⭐We know what you're looking for and we are here to give it to you.

⭐You won't be disappointed.

⭐Youll be even happier with the wonderful service we offer.

Jim Rob
11-13-22, 08:56
Friday made a visit to Angels off Blake Lane. Went upstairs and told we too busy come back in hour. She did ask me if I called ahead, I won't lie that I did. The girl was young and cute, holy shit I was surprised a young cute female at an AMP. Went to my car to think about if I should wait or go. Sitting in my car, I couldn't believe the steady foot traffic of my monger brothers trying to go in and watch them turned away. Monger are a mix of everyone, we really are a diverse group of people. Watching so much foot traffic is going to give them unwanted attention. I do recommend that if you're on a lunch break, it's a great show. Got me thinking Angels is making money. After 20 minutes a lightbulb went off and I'm like next door is Pine Tree!! Walked over and greeted by a beautiful young lady named Sharon I think.

Guys she was in a small dress and looked amazing. I was like did I time travel? This is the quality we got back in the day. In the room I gave the fee and got naked. Sharon left abs came back and straddle me giving a massage. I still couldn't believe how young and pretty she was. Impossible she has grand kids or even children with that body. I don't wait long after watching her in the mirror to flip. She asked if I take care of her and I said yes. We agreed on everything for 160 $. She got naked so fast. Amazing body she sat on my soft dick of course naked and it was nice. She sucked my balls and slipped on the rubber and put me inside her. Condom felt so tight and I guess it was extra small, I said take off and just jerk me. She said no, I'm horny! And she left completely naked to fetch a bigger condom, she came back in the room and put on the new condom and put me back inside her. We fucked hard and good with her making many sounds. I blew my load and she cleaned me up. She told me she's from Korea and her second day working. She's a college girls and plans to stay a month.

When leaving I saw another hot girl working that looked damn good. It was actually hot girls, like they use in the fake adds. This is why I monger for a 95% fail rate for this success. I was so happy and excited, that later that night I did my wife raw, and finished on her ass. I never blow two loads a day anymore.

Kijimuna
11-13-22, 09:10
Friday made a visit to Angels off Blake Lane. Went upstairs and told we too busy come back in hour. She did ask me if I called ahead, I won't lie that I did. The girl was young and cute, holy shit I was surprised a young cute female at an AMP. Went to my car to think about if I should wait or go. Sitting in my car, I couldn't believe the steady foot traffic of my monger brothers trying to go in and watch them turned away. Monger are a mix of everyone, we really are a diverse group of people. Watching so much foot traffic is going to give them unwanted attention. I do recommend that if you're on a lunch break, it's a great show. Got me thinking Angels is making money. After 20 minutes a lightbulb went off and I'm like next door is Pine Tree!! Walked over and greeted by a beautiful young lady named Sharon I think.

Guys she was in a small dress and looked amazing. I was like did I time travel? This is the quality we got back in the day. In the room I gave the fee and got naked. Sharon left abs came back and straddle me giving a massage. I still couldn't believe how young and pretty she was. Impossible she has grand kids or even children with that body. I don't wait long after watching her in the mirror to flip. She asked if I take care of her and I said yes. We agreed on everything for 160 $. She got naked so fast. Amazing body she sat on my soft dick of course naked and it was nice. She sucked my balls and slipped on the rubber and put me inside her. Condom felt so tight and I guess it was extra small, I said take off and just jerk me. She said no, I'm horny! And she left completely naked to fetch a bigger condom, she came back in the room and put on the new condom and put me back inside her. We fucked hard and good with her making many sounds. I blew my load and she cleaned me up. She told me she's from Korea and her second day working. She's a college girls and plans to stay a month.

When leaving I saw another hot girl working that looked damn good. It was actually hot girls, like they use in the fake adds. This is why I monger for a 95% fail rate for this success. I was so happy and excited, that later that night I did my wife raw, and finished on her ass. I never blow two loads a day anymore.Well that place is going to get mobbed now, LOL.

Rhinopole
11-13-22, 09:23
Well that place is going to get mobbed now, LOL.Was that a 30 or 60 min. Visit?

Rhino.

AvgJoe123
11-13-22, 09:26
Well that place is going to get mobbed now, LOL.99% of the time I'm disappointed with my experience after reading such a glowing review. It sounds too good to be true. Anyone else have a positive experience like this at this establishment in NOVA?

Completely
11-13-22, 10:56
This was a first but recently a provider, who I had never met, reached out to me. Said her name is Darin, friends with Alexa who I had seen a few times in the past. Anyone know of her?

Aside from that, are there any legit spas with girls younger than 35? Massage skills would be preferred, but so long as their are young pretty girls then I would be good with it.

RickKrungThep
11-13-22, 11:28
Here ARE quotes from their add.

Jubilant explosions.

⭐We are highly trained in the art of pleasure and we know how to please even the most demanding man.

⭐We will rub our hot delicious bodies all over you as we massage you with the pleasure that will blow your mind.

⭐We know what you're looking for and we are here to give it to you.

⭐You won't be disappointed.

⭐Youll be even happier with the wonderful service we offer.Thanks for your post. I went to this place before the pandemic once. I never know when I am going to have "free" time so calling for an appt is not something I usually do. I was passing by this place and had often seen the neon sign on, which I thought was odd given that this complex is mostly lawyers, dentists, etc so close to the courthouse. I did get a very good massage from a Chinese woman who was at most 35. She was attractive and professional but not flirty at all. There was no HE or anything else offered. My bad back did feel temporary relief. Having worked in China a few times on consulting gigs, I get that Communism has destroyed all semblance of customer service with a smile. During the pandemic I stopped by and an older lady opened the door and told me I must call for an appointment. The next few times I did, they did not answer the phone. So I crossed them off my list. Those photos are always a sign to me that they younger the photo is, the older the actual MT will be. I have lived and learned from TOFTT and reading the reviews and frustrations of the gentlemen here. I am grateful. Since the pandemic is more or less over, I have been over tipping since I know these ladies had some down time, and also fewer customers. I also now over tip wait staff for the same reason. Trying to keep the universe in balance the best I can.

PuntaJaco43
11-14-22, 13:47
Over the weekend, after a long early morning run, I had the desire to see my new ATF, Connie at The Four Seasons in Annandale. I needed some love, but on the drive out I was feeling worn down and tired and what I truly desired and needed was a real massage. I could do with someone to rub and knead, to loosen up the tension in my legs and gluts, someone that was a real masseuse that would make me cry from the pressure exerted by strong and expertly placed hands.

So, I decided to pass on Connie. I keep driving past and headed for Won Massage just a few blocks down on the right. Won is nestled in the middle of a small and cozy strip mall. I had never been there before, but I remember reading a post that mentioned this Chinese AMP. Its hard to search the Forum for this place because the system, as some have found out, will not allow a three-letter search.

I park, walk up, and open the door to a very dark and seedy looking reception area. This place has seen better days as has the entire complex, but looks can be deceiving. I am greeted by a spunky attractive, mid 40's woman of small and lean stature with a nice rack. She was smartly dressed in street cloths and was happy to see me. I opted for a HH massage for $50. I stressed the desire to have my lower body massaged only. I was not expecting any extras when I entered this place. I wasn't even going to initiate anything; I was tired and wanted to relax.

The massage started with Coco placing a soft sheet across my body and slowly rubbing my lower body. After a few minutes she pulled off the sheet and asked if she could use some cream, I nodded yes, and she proceeded to massage my calves, hamstrings, and buttocks and back down again carefully and masterfully. At one point she asked if I wanted it harder, but I declined, she misunderstood, and I winced when she turned up the pressure. I initiated conversation and in the matter of a few minutes I found out how long she had been in the states, where she was from and that she had a son. She was at ease, and I was in peace.

Ok now get this: On the flip, I am laying there on my back all relaxed, my junk was hanging all over the place and suddenly, she starts flicking my balls and giggling. She has a mask on, but I can tell that she was smiling and wanted to play. I look at her and nodded to continue as I sensed she was asking permission. She gave a very nicely performed HJ; she knew what to do and this wasn't her first time. What a surprise! She left, I got dressed and met her at the reception area with a $50 tip. She was very appreciative and asked when I would return. I assured her very soon. Which I will.

To Conclude: Coco reminds me of Angela when she was at Yumi a few months ago. Coco is not as young, not as pretty and not as stacked but very similar. The big difference at Won is the peace and quiet. No interruptions, no disturbances. Coco was totally focused on making me happy and she did. Looks can be deceiving gentlemen, but YMMV.

Regards.

JackGolfer53
11-14-22, 14:43
This was a first but recently a provider, who I had never met, reached out to me. Said her name is Darin, friends with Alexa who I had seen a few times in the past. Anyone know of her?

Aside from that, are there any legit spas with girls younger than 35? Massage skills would be preferred, but so long as their are young pretty girls then I would be good with it.I have seen her 3 times now and it was a great experience each time. She is in her late-20's and looks it. I would highly recommend her.

Rhinopole
11-14-22, 14:44
Is the Four Seasons where your present ATF, Connie, is the same place you previously wrote about meeting the 2 witches?

Rhino.


Over the weekend, after a long early morning run, I had the desire to see my new ATF, Connie at The Four Seasons in Annandale. I needed some love, but on the drive out I was feeling worn down and tired and what I truly desired and needed was a real massage. I could do with someone to rub and knead, to loosen up the tension in my legs and gluts, someone that was a real masseuse that would make me cry from the pressure exerted by strong and expertly placed hands.

So, I decided to pass on Connie. I keep driving past and headed for Won Massage just a few blocks down on the right. Won is nestled in the middle of a small and cozy strip mall. I had never been there before, but I remember reading a post that mentioned this Chinese AMP. Its hard to search the Forum for this place because the system, as some have found out, will not allow a three-letter search..

PuntaJaco43
11-14-22, 17:36
Is the Four Seasons where your present ATF, Connie, is the same place you previously wrote about meeting the 2 witches?

Rhino.Yes! And, as I had mentioned in that Witches post, I returned to see if I could do better. In doing so I met a nice spinner, maybe 50 years old. She has provided me a very sensual experience these last few visits. I have been delaying a review as I want to savior the experience a little longer.

Best to be persistent in this game, you may get lucky occasionally just like our fellow hobbyist that visited Angel and Pine on Blake Lane just recently.

One thing I would like to mention about the Four Seasons: One of the Witches got fired. Connie is new, and very nice lady, I treat her well and she reciprocates but YMMV.

Regards.

Harley Dude 29
11-14-22, 22:06
Thanks for your post. I went to this place before the pandemic once. I never know when I am going to have "free" time so calling for an appt is not something I usually do. I was passing by this place and had often seen the neon sign on, which I thought was odd given that this complex is mostly lawyers, dentists, etc so close to the courthouse. I did get a very good massage from a Chinese woman who was at most 35. She was attractive and professional but not flirty at all. There was no HE or anything else offered. My bad back did feel temporary relief. Having worked in China a few times on consulting gigs, I get that Communism has destroyed all semblance of customer service with a smile. During the pandemic I stopped by and an older lady opened the door and told me I must call for an appointment. The next few times I did, they did not answer the phone. So I crossed them off my list. Those photos are always a sign to me that they younger the photo is, the older the actual MT will be. I have lived and learned from TOFTT and reading the reviews and frustrations of the gentlemen here. I am grateful. Since the pandemic is more or less over, I have been over tipping since I know these ladies had some down time, and also fewer customers. I also now over tip wait staff for the same reason. Trying to keep the universe in balance the best I can.The place referenced now has only been open about 2 months. The place you reference with a electric sign in the window has been there a long time and is totally legitimate. The new place is in a different adjoining building, and has no window sign, and only has a paper sign taped to the door. Either way, one appears to be legitimate and the other is a rip off joint with false advertising.

Big Daddy Don
11-14-22, 22:13
Any of you frequenting any spots where the girls actually like to kiss during the session and who are good at it? I really enjoy it when I can get a nice sensual HE or more with a girl who doesn't shy away from some lip and tongue action. Let me know what you've run into recently.Some girls will kiss. The only ones I have come across that kiss and do it well have been long time relations. Sometimes the variety is cool but the familiar girl that knows what you like and you know her can be a fun ordeal. These are the ones that have been comfortable enough to kiss and do a nice real GFE for me. None on a first visit or two.

EDog65
11-14-22, 22:54
Some girls will kiss. The only ones I have come across that kiss and do it well have been long time relations. Sometimes the variety is cool but the familiar girl that knows what you like and you know her can be a fun ordeal. These are the ones that have been comfortable enough to kiss and do a nice real GFE for me. None on a first visit or two.Good advice. Thanks.

RickKrungThep
11-15-22, 07:59
The place referenced now has only been open about 2 months. The place you reference with a electric sign in the window has been there a long time and is totally legitimate. The new place is in a different adjoining building, and has no window sign, and only has a paper sign taped to the door. Either way, one appears to be legitimate and the other is a rip off joint with false advertising.Thanks for the clarification Harley. When I double-checking using maps it showed the street view of what looked liked the place I had been. Of course the complex has the same architecture throughout. I guess I am spoiled from living overseas where the photos are the ladies working in the establishment. I do recall when I got back here in 2018 going to Smooth Water based on photos and what a shock when a grandmother quickly put me in a room, of which I quickly walked out to my car. When I asked where are the girls in the photos, she said those are just photos. Lesson learned.

WalkerC
11-15-22, 08:59
Any of you frequenting any spots where the girls actually like to kiss during the session and who are good at it? I really enjoy it when I can get a nice sensual HE or more with a girl who doesn't shy away from some lip and tongue action. Let me know what you've run into recently.I've been told both Angie and Sandra at FHOH.

Barkeater
11-15-22, 09:55
Hello,

So I had some free time this weekend and decided to try one of the independents I had not a chance to sample yet. I noticed an ad for Vandara, she quickly replied, and we were on.

The good: Well, she did have some very nice knockers as so well described by the much esteemed Frankie Digitola, and did bring them out to play. Also, the massage was really good, she worked on my tight calves and thighs, gave me a very professional head to toe massage, and that part of the session was quite nice.

The bad: She had a mask on the whole time, although I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. She broke out the negotiations at the flip, which is always a turn off, and I found myself committing to more than I had intended. Eighty dollars later, she took her top off but only offered limited touching and nothing more. So the finish ended up being a fairly pleasant but overly expensive hand job. I left feeling cheated, which put a sour taste on my happy ending.

I think she has enough of a customer base that she feels like she can phone it in on the extras, I would not recommend, nor do I think I will return which is a bummer since there are many positives about her.

Be safe.

--BE.

DecentManhood
11-15-22, 11:23
I have seen her 3 times now and it was a great experience each time. She is in her late-20's and looks it. I would highly recommend her.I see she quotes SS. 6 for a hour, it's hard to tell what can be included, does that amount cover more than a hand shake? Does she up charge after the flip? Thank you.

Member #6802
11-15-22, 13:03
This might fit better under the OPSEC forum, but mine was from an MP, so decided to share this reminder.

About a month ago, I visited an MP and absent-mindedly put receipt in pocket. Wife was about to do laundry and I forgot about it until I saw her going through pockets. Was able to offer to help and check my pants. Luckily, I was able to locate and hide receipt without her noticing.

Since then, I make sure to destroy and trash them before leaving MP. Seems like a common sense thing, but when little head is taking charge, the bigger head gets forgetful.

Happy hunting.

Member #6802
11-15-22, 18:30
I have seen her 3 times now and it was a great experience each time. She is in her late-20's and looks it. I would highly recommend her.Any contact information or link you're willing to share?

TheOuroboros
11-15-22, 19:00
This might fit better under the OPSEC forum, but mine was from an MP, so decided to share this reminder.

About a month ago, I visited an MP and absent-mindedly put receipt in pocket. Wife was about to do laundry and I forgot about it until I saw her going through pockets. Was able to offer to help and check my pants. Luckily, I was able to locate and hide receipt without her noticing.

Since then, I make sure to destroy and trash them before leaving MP. Seems like a common sense thing, but when little head is taking charge, the bigger head gets forgetful.

Happy hunting.A provider I used to do BBFS with had the IUD removed and so I had to switch to using condoms. Well in order to avoid trouble since she worked in a fairly legit MP she had me take home the souvenirs to discard at my leisure. Well one day after finishing the deed I had a work emergency and completley forgot about the magical napkin shoved away in my pants pocket. Me man. Me idiot. Needless to say come laundry day the wife found my little gift and left it right on the counter for me to see when I got home from work.

I'm still in the dog house for that one.

Needless to say my days of monger exploration have slowed to a crawl. I still get out every now and then but I have to play it extremely careful. Receipts and other trinkets are emptied from my pockets before I dare set foot in the door.

TheOuroboros
11-15-22, 20:31
Had an hour to kill after work and was along bull run and decided to pull into an office park that had two massage parlors in them. Dadi massage and top massage.

I actually checked out DADI first but when I entered the place it was a ghost town. I waited in the lobby to see if anyone would come out and greet me but nobody did. So I ventured further in and found a door slightly ajar and caught wind of a old Chinese woman giving a massage to a gentleman inside. I turned around and dipped. I figure anyone whose going to give a massage with the door open wouldn't be prone to giving me what I wanted so I decided to try the other MP instead and went to top across the street.

The reality is I should have skipped both but I went against my gut feeling and decided to get a 30 min massage at Top. This place has rooms that do not have a door but instead a curtain slide so I really should have backed out and went on my way home but the older Chinese lady who lead me into the room was skinny with long dark hair. A black t shirt and jeans, Sporting a fairly stacked rack. Despite the wrinkles and the mask she had on I could tell she was pretty. So I opted in for a medium massage.

20 min go by and then she starts a soft touch and begins teasing the balls. It was enough stimulation to turn me on so I flip and she begins teasing me again by avoiding my erection and running her hands up and down my legs instead. I guess she was waiting for me to make the first move so I guided her hands toward junior when she stopped and asked me how much. Man nothing takes the wind from your sails then when they ask you to just stop mid fantasy and pay up. I countered by gauging her asking price and if I had water in my mouth I surely would have spat it out into her face when she gave me her answer.

For a 30 min massage and tug after giving her. 4 for the hh she wanted. 8 more for the HE. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt and politely asked her if the. 8 would include her taking off her clothes. Fully nude HJ while I play with her body would be the only way I would match her asking price. But nope she refused and said that. 8 would be for a fully clothed HJ with no possibility of roaming. Who in the right mind would even consider that.? Without a doubt I can find a place down the street that would offer a whole lot more for the same price. I told her she's out of her mind and asked her to just finish the massage and forget the ending. She then said she would do it for. 6 and I told her that's still a rip off and that at this point I wouldn't even take her up on it. 4. I was completley turned off. She tried to get me back in the mood with soft touch caressing on my stomach and legs but the flame had already died. I left her. 1 tip to shut her up as I was leaving, never to return again.

Sadly I didn’t have the time to scope out other places in the area so I went home with blue balls instead

Happy Guy 2
11-15-22, 20:49
Hello,

So I had some free time this weekend and decided to try one of the independents I had not a chance to sample yet. I noticed an ad for Vandara, she quickly replied, and we were on.

The good: Well, she did have some very nice knockers as so well described by the much esteemed Frankie Digitola, and did bring them out to play. Also, the massage was really good, she worked on my tight calves and thighs, gave me a very professional head to toe massage, and that part of the session was quite nice.

The bad: She had a mask on the whole time, although I am not sure if that is a good thing or a bad thing. She broke out the negotiations at the flip, which is always a turn off, and I found myself committing to more than I had intended. Eighty dollars later, she took her top off but only offered limited touching and nothing more. So the finish ended up being a fairly pleasant but overly expensive hand job. I left feeling cheated, which put a sour taste on my happy ending.

I think she has enough of a customer base that she feels like she can phone it in on the extras, I would not recommend, nor do I think I will return which is a bummer since there are many positives about her.

Be safe.

--BE.Vandera: I have posted a very uninspiring review and would never repeat. I can't see how she stays in business. Just no sex appeal to me.

Waste of time and money.

HG.

DecentManhood
11-15-22, 21:06
Any contact information or link you're willing to share?Just google "Foxylists darin" you will find her profile.

DC002
11-15-22, 22:19
Some girls will kiss. The only ones I have come across that kiss and do it well have been long time relations. Sometimes the variety is cool but the familiar girl that knows what you like and you know her can be a fun ordeal. These are the ones that have been comfortable enough to kiss and do a nice real GFE for me. None on a first visit or two.Kissing is a turnon.

But the downsides have been occasional sore throats afterwards.

And the thought that she gave the guy before you a BBBJ.

Just think of that!

Be safe, even if it really sucks (pun intended).

Use the big head.

HG.

EDog65
11-15-22, 22:28
I've been told both Angie and Sandra at FHOH.Appreciate the feedback. I haven't tried FHOH yet but may have to give it a chance.

PilotAviator
11-16-22, 00:14
A provider I used to do BBFS with had the IUD removed and so I had to switch to using condoms. Well in order to avoid trouble since she worked in a fairly legit MP she had me take home the souvenirs to discard at my leisure. Well one day after finishing the deed I had a work emergency and completley forgot about the magical napkin shoved away in my pants pocket. Me man. Me idiot. Needless to say come laundry day the wife found my little gift and left it right on the counter for me to see when I got home from work.

I'm still in the dog house for that one.

Needless to say my days of monger exploration have slowed to a crawl. I still get out every now and then but I have to play it extremely careful. Receipts and other trinkets are emptied from my pockets before I dare set foot in the door.Been enjoying the hobby in the DMV region since the last century (well over 20 years) -- not once, not at any AMP or independent have I asked for nor been offered a receipt.

Seriously? I find it challenging at times to explain all the bottles of water in my car.

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.

Asphalt
11-16-22, 00:59
I park, walk up, and open the door to a very dark and seedy looking reception area. This place has seen better days as has the entire complex, but looks can be deceiving. I am greeted by a spunky attractive, mid 40's woman of small and lean stature with a nice rack. She was smartly dressed in street cloths and was happy to see me. I opted for a HH massage for $50. I stressed the desire to have my lower body massaged only. I was not expecting any extras when I entered this place. I wasn't even going to initiate anything; I was tired and wanted to relax.

The massage started with Coco placing a soft sheet across my body and slowly rubbing my lower body. After a few minutes she pulled off the sheet and asked if she could use some cream, I nodded yes, and she proceeded to massage my calves, hamstrings, and buttocks and back down again carefully and masterfully. At one point she asked if I wanted it harder, but I declined, she misunderstood, and I winced when she turned up the pressure. I initiated conversation and in the matter of a few minutes I found out how long she had been in the states, where she was from and that she had a son. She was at ease, and I was in peace.

Ok now get this: On the flip, I am laying there on my back all relaxed, my junk was hanging all over the place and suddenly, she starts flicking my balls and giggling. She has a mask on, but I can tell that she was smiling and wanted to play. I look at her and nodded to continue as I sensed she was asking permission. She gave a very nicely performed HJ; she knew what to do and this wasn't her first time. What a surprise! She left, I got dressed and met her at the reception area with a $50 tip. She was very appreciative and asked when I would return. I assured her very soon. Which I will.

To Conclude: Coco reminds me of Angela when she was at Yumi a few months ago. Coco is not as young, not as pretty and not as stacked but very similar. The big difference at Won is the peace and quiet. No interruptions, no disturbances. Coco was totally focused on making me happy and she did. Looks can be deceiving gentlemen, but YMMV.

Regards.Funny. At one time this place was totally not NOVA but I would stop in every now and again to see if things had changed. In the last year I tried again and had a tallish woman with a nice rack who let me nurse those nice plums and pet the kitty for $60. The next time I saw her no kitty, no nursing and she wanted $80 for a lifted up bra and a handshake. Glad you found a good one. I'll call ahead and ask for her.

AvgJoe123
11-16-22, 08:22
Been enjoying the hobby in the DMV region since the last century (well over 20 years) -- not once, not at any AMP or independent have I asked for nor been offered a receipt.

Seriously? I find it challenging at times to explain all the bottles of water in my car.

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.LOL at your comment about the water bottles. I also have those small pieces of candy in my car. At least Halloween gives me a reason to have those mini candies in my car.

WalkerC
11-16-22, 10:10
Been enjoying the hobby in the DMV region since the last century (well over 20 years) -- not once, not at any AMP or independent have I asked for nor been offered a receipt.

Seriously? I find it challenging at times to explain all the bottles of water in my car.

Always be nice to the ladies.

PA.The only place I've ever heard of offering a receipt is FHOH.

PuntaJaco43
11-16-22, 11:20
Kissing is a turnon.

But the downsides have been occasional sore throats afterwards.

And the thought that she gave the guy before you a BBBJ.

Just think of that!

Be safe, even if it really sucks (pun intended).

Use the big head.

HG.I agree with the stated consequences as you mention. And I may add, it would be advisable never to stick your tongue down a provider's throat on the first visit just like I would never accept BBFS from any of these women on our initial session. If they are giving it to you on the first meeting, they are doing it with everyone. (I remember my first date with my college girlfriend, she told me I was the only one; unbeknownst to me she was doing half the football team). Having said this, we older gents need a more intimate experience to perform like we did when we were 40 or 50 years old. Now, if you are in your 30's or 40's and you are blowing double barrels in a 30-minute session, (God Bless you), then this doesn't pertain to you obviously.

But.

In my short 4 years as a hobbyist, I have found several women, (at AMPs only), that would provide this level of experience but only after they had gotten to know and trust me, and this may take some money and some time, but it's out there; even with some very attractive providers, it's out there. Women are woman and many are looking for an interesting and intimate man. How many of these women have a serious relationship outside of work? Not many especially if they are getting into their 40-50's. The clock is running out for them. So, it's not easy but it's out there, you just must dig for that hidden jewel. This for me and others is part of the fun. We old boomers are used to working hard for a good date.

More importantly be respectful and carful. Don't get into deep. And always be nice to the ladies, unless they are like the two wicked witches that I wrote about several weeks ago.

Regards.

Sonny13
11-16-22, 20:39
Any of you frequenting any spots where the girls actually like to kiss during the session and who are good at it? I really enjoy it when I can get a nice sensual HE or more with a girl who doesn't shy away from some lip and tongue action. Let me know what you've run into recently.Some may say this is a coincidence. Others may think maybe some of the providers are reading the board and giving mongers what they want. Either way, this is good news for you.

https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/tysons-corner-va/22594412.html

Member #6802
11-16-22, 21:35
Some may say this is a coincidence. Others may think maybe some of the providers are reading the board and giving mongers what they want. Either way, this is good news for you.

https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/tysons-corner-va/22594412.htmlBeautiful woman (in pictures) and does talk a good game in her ad. But has anyone TOFTT and met her? I'd do it except it's a long drive from Woodbridge to Tysons and back before starting work at 12. Perhaps when I can take an afternoon off and not rush?

EDog65
11-16-22, 22:05
Some may say this is a coincidence. Others may think maybe some of the providers are reading the board and giving mongers what they want. Either way, this is good news for you.

https://nova.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/tysons-corner-va/22594412.htmlThanks for the heads up and like you said, may be just what the doctor ordered. .

DonQuiote
11-17-22, 10:06
Beautiful woman (in pictures) and does talk a good game in her ad. But has anyone TOFTT and met her? I'd do it except it's a long drive from Woodbridge to Tysons and back before starting work at 12. Perhaps when I can take an afternoon off and not rush?Google the phone number. You will find her reviews on the oThER site. They appear to be mostly negative.

Member #6802
11-17-22, 10:56
Google the phone number. You will find her reviews on the oThER site. They appear to be mostly negative.Taking your suggestion, realized I spoke via text to her recently. Also, I'm not a VIP member so couldn't read reviews.

Doesn't have full menu. No anal, only CFS, and BBBJ is available but CIM is extra. Considering donation to get in the door is 3.5, not sure if she's worth it, especially if others gave her negative reviews.

Seemed tempting during text because she likes making out and other fun without doing FS. But donation and distance puts her on "to do" list, just not top 5.

Gerzoomble
11-17-22, 13:42
A provider I used to do BBFS with had the IUD removed and so I had to switch to using condoms. Well in order to avoid trouble since she worked in a fairly legit MP she had me take home the souvenirs to discard at my leisure. Well one day after finishing the deed I had a work emergency and completley forgot about the magical napkin shoved away in my pants pocket. Me man. Me idiot. Needless to say come laundry day the wife found my little gift and left it right on the counter for me to see when I got home from work.

I'm still in the dog house for that one.

Needless to say my days of monger exploration have slowed to a crawl. I still get out every now and then but I have to play it extremely careful. Receipts and other trinkets are emptied from my pockets before I dare set foot in the door.In the dog house? Surprised she didn't take the house and leave you free to do all the mongering you want.

SwiftChariot
11-17-22, 14:59
Good afternoon Gents.

I've seen a lot of Coco's in my life and this one is above average. Works out of a house with Gina, so very private. Is a good talker and is pretty for a high 30's Thai, tone body with a small D rack, maybe fake, I couldn't tell. She'll tell you funny customer stories.

Came from NY and has been here for 6 weeks and may never leave, Great Massage, lackluster flip 1. 2 + . 8 for bad nuru. Didn't finish but I think most mongers would she really does have a bangin body. FS off the table. PICS Fake

https://us-nova.bedpage.com/therapeuticmassage/falls-church/22590402.html

SemenSeeker
11-17-22, 15:44
Headed to queen off Franconia in a few days and wondering who is the oldest in the lineup. I've dreamt about Kim, Joon and Monica already, had a great time with all three. Kim very well could be the oldest there but I'll ask the good populace on here for their input.

Thanks in advance!

WillyBetten
11-17-22, 18:26
Had a dreamed that I saw her 2 weeks ago. A decent motel in the Tysons area. Discreet enough. No massage table as some have mentioned. Just towels on a bed, which does take away from the massage experience.

BUT the massage I dreamt about is. Epic. I asked for hard, as I normally like it, but she advised against it. First because she did a preliminary exam of my body by running her hands over my muscles and pretty accurately determining where I'm hurting and how I'm hurting. I swear it was like magic. She advised that she'd go medium pressure, and boy was she right. Even her medium was stronger and better than any of the other providers I've had, even some of the really highly rate Thai ones.

Oh, she's very upfront about her menu. I dreamt she laid out standard Nova, BBBJ, and CFS up front, quoting a price of $300. I sheepishly negotiated down to $260. Very nice build up after the massage, CFS in cowgirl and mish. Lovely to see those massive tits bouncing. Definitely a nice looking thick girl, not BBW. Took directions well, but do wish there was extra lube w / the CFS. Next time I'll bring it. Nice BBBJCIM finish.

BTW, I saw mentioned here some think she's got bolt-ons. I think she's natural. However her body does exhibit signs of having major work done with respect to a tummy tuck, breast lift, and lipo. Almost unnatural tautness of her skin over her flesh. Essentially like those comically curve ebony porn stars. But her body is natural, tits are incredible, and very nice tick curvy body.

I'll visit again once I can squirrel away some funds.

Rhinopole
11-17-22, 20:36
Primarily for convenience I visited Garden Spa. Years ago I was a regular there and they had a number of nice looking younger ladies, some of whom offered FS. Then other options came up and I didn't go back very much. Before today, the last time was several months ago. During that visit I was attended to by a pleasant but not very attractive older woman. She provided BBBJ which was passable. Today figured I try my luck again. It was not great, but taken in context it was okay. Context is I'm an older guy who doesn't want to break the bank because I know I can't perform like I could before. So when I saw my MT (Hanna) seemed to be in her 50 ties, with a nice face, good personality, a full backside and natural D or DD tits, I was good with that. The TS was okay, the massage was mediocre except for the soft massage. But, she was clean, very responsive to DATY, and enjoyed kissing. The finish was NOVA in 69 position. If I see her again, FS or BJ might be on the menu. But even if not, she was grateful for the Benjamin I left, on top of the. 8 for the hour. And for a guy my age she was fine.

Rhino.

Rhinopole
11-17-22, 20:40
Headed to queen off Franconia in a few days and wondering who is the oldest in the lineup. I've dreamt about Kim, Joon and Monica already, had a great time with all three. Kim very well could be the oldest there but I'll ask the good populace on here for their input.

Thanks in advance!FYI, Kim and Joon aren't at Queen anymore. I've heard they're now at King Spa. I don't know anything about a Monica.

Rhino.

HellBoyX
11-17-22, 23:15
Grip, appreciate the report, as I've had that on my list. Are there any good spots In Manassas? I'm newer to that area. I'm with you, I am starting to reduce AMPs for independents as I hate the post flip negotiations. It just kills my mood. Good luck!


Had an hour to kill after work and was along bull run and decided to pull into an office park that had two massage parlors in them. Dadi massage and top massage.

I actually checked out DADI first but when I entered the place it was a ghost town. I waited in the lobby to see if anyone would come out and greet me but nobody did. So I ventured further in and found a door slightly ajar and caught wind of a old Chinese woman giving a massage to a gentleman inside. I turned around and dipped. I figure anyone whose going to give a massage with the door open wouldn't be prone to giving me what I wanted so I decided to try the other MP instead and went to top across the street.

The reality is I should have skipped both but I went against my gut feeling and decided to get a 30 min massage at Top. This place has rooms that do not have a door but instead a curtain slide so I really should have backed out and went on my way home but the older Chinese lady who lead me into the room was skinny with long dark hair. A black t shirt and jeans, Sporting a fairly stacked rack. Despite the wrinkles and the mask she had on I could tell she was pretty. So I opted in for a medium massage.

20 min go by and then she starts a soft touch and begins teasing the balls. It was enough stimulation to turn me on so I flip and she begins teasing me again by avoiding my erection and running her hands up and down my legs instead. I guess she was waiting for me to make the first move so I guided her hands toward junior when she stopped and asked me how much. Man nothing takes the wind from your sails then when they ask you to just stop mid fantasy and pay up. I countered by gauging her asking price and if I had water in my mouth I surely would have spat it out into her face when she gave me her answer.

For a 30 min massage and tug after giving her. 4 for the hh she wanted. 8 more for the HE. I tried to give her the benefit of the doubt and politely asked her if the. 8 would include her taking off her clothes. Fully nude HJ while I play with her body would be the only way I would match her asking price. But nope she refused and said that. 8 would be for a fully clothed HJ with no possibility of roaming. Who in the right mind would even consider that.? Without a doubt I can find a place down the street that would offer a whole lot more for the same price. I told her she's out of her mind and asked her to just finish the massage and forget the ending. She then said she would do it for. 6 and I told her that's still a rip off and that at this point I wouldn't even take her up on it. 4. I was completley turned off. She tried to get me back in the mood with soft touch caressing on my stomach and legs but the flame had already died. I left her. 1 tip to shut her up as I was leaving, never to return again.

Sadly I didnt have the time to scope out other places in the area so I went home with blue balls instead

BarneySanders
11-18-22, 03:19
Had a dreamed that I saw her 2 weeks ago. A decent motel in the Tysons area. Discreet enough. No massage table as some have mentioned. Just towels on a bed, which does take away from the massage experience.

BUT the massage I dreamt about is. Epic. I asked for hard, as I normally like it, but she advised against it. First because she did a preliminary exam of my body by running her hands over my muscles and pretty accurately determining where I'm hurting and how I'm hurting. I swear it was like magic. She advised that she'd go medium pressure, and boy was she right. Even her medium was stronger and better than any of the other providers I've had, even some of the really highly rate Thai ones.

Oh, she's very upfront about her menu. I dreamt she laid out standard Nova, BBBJ, and CFS up front, quoting a price of $300. I sheepishly negotiated down to $260. Very nice build up after the massage, CFS in cowgirl and mish. Lovely to see those massive tits bouncing. Definitely a nice looking thick girl, not BBW. Took directions well, but do wish there was extra lube w / the CFS. Next time I'll bring it. Nice BBBJCIM finish.

BTW, I saw mentioned here some think she's got bolt-ons. I think she's natural. However her body does exhibit signs of having major work done with respect to a tummy tuck, breast lift, and lipo. Almost unnatural tautness of her skin over her flesh. Essentially like those comically curve ebony porn stars. But her body is natural, tits are incredible, and very nice tick curvy body.

I'll visit again once I can squirrel away some funds.So she charges $160 for the massage plus $260 for CFS? Better to get a legit massage for $80 plus tip and dream pounding an awesome looking 20 something year old across the river or at an agency for close to the same, right?

Dunkinhne
11-18-22, 07:23
Lots of reviews on the other site. Standard nova and too pricey considering the entry fee and distance. Not close in terms of massage skills as the Thai providers at the same price. YMMV but better options out there for my money.


Saw a new review added on rm. Hopeful that we are getting out of lmp monopoly exploitation. Anyone been there yet?

TheOuroboros
11-18-22, 08:58
In the dog house? Surprised she didn't take the house and leave you free to do all the mongering you want.Someone hasn't read the Scarlet Letter.

SonChi
11-18-22, 14:45
So she charges $160 for the massage plus $260 foNo painr CFS? Better to get a legit massage for $80 plus tip and dream pounding an awesome looking 20 something year old across the river or at an agency for close to the same, right?No, the all in is $3. 0. Make your primary reason to visit the massage, she will work the kinks out like a true CMT, then decide on your finish.

If you want all play, yes, go to an agency (and divulge your pii along the way).

If you want the CMT level rub + play, then go see Candy.

In this market, she represents value to me.

Galleon
11-18-22, 14:54
So she charges $160 for the massage plus $260 for CFS? Better to get a legit massage for $80 plus tip and dream pounding an awesome looking 20 something year old across the river or at an agency for close to the same, right?No, if we are talking about "no pain no gain Candy", those prices are all inclusive. With that said, $$$ for FS and a regular massage seems high. That's the typical quote for nuru CFS from other Thai providers.

PuntaJaco43
11-18-22, 17:49
No, if we are talking about "no pain no gain Candy", those prices are all inclusive. With that said, $$$ for FS and a regular massage seems high. That's the typical quote for nuru CFS from other Thai providers.Sorry but I 'm not getting the math. Was the total charge for all those goodies $260 or $300? Include the entry fee.

I would say you got a deal at $260.

Regards.

LoveDemAzn
11-18-22, 19:10
Sorry but I 'm not getting the math. Was the total charge for all those goodies $260 or $300? Include the entry fee.

I would say you got a deal at $260.

Regards.She ask for 3 but he got it down to 2. 6 for everything.

BarneySanders
11-19-22, 01:16
No, the all in is $3. 0. Make your primary reason to visit the massage, she will work the kinks out like a true CMT, then decide on your finish.

If you want all play, yes, go to an agency (and divulge your pii along the way).

If you want the CMT level rub + play, then go see Candy.

In this market, she represents value to me.Still, you all fine gentlemen may want to venture across the river once in a while. You may be surprised with quality massages you can get at least half of the time plus a more pleasant dream.

It seems that you all are very fond of Candy so enjoy! I just think that there is better value to be had by other means.

SonChi
11-19-22, 12:02
Still, you all fine gentlemen may want to venture across the river once in a while. You may be surprised with quality massages you can get at least half of the time plus a more pleasant dream.

It seems that you all are very fond of Candy so enjoy! I just think that there is better value to be had by other means.But I am fond of her and I value the consistency of knowing exactly what I am going to get for 2. 6 to 3. 0.

If I want nonstop play for an hour, I hit a K agency. No better bang for the buck.

If I want quality massage + BBBJ + cfs from a reasonabley attractive and sweet provider, I have not discovered many options better than Candy so far.

But my journey continues or those unicorns! Send me a DM if you found one open to new players.

Member #6802
11-19-22, 15:23
Headed to queen off Franconia in a few days and wondering who is the oldest in the lineup. Kim very well could be the oldest there but I'll ask the good populace on here for their input.
Reading this got me wondering about older AMPs, which has become a new quest. I'd like to hear about the really older MTs in area; I'm talking at least 65+, maybe even 70'. Would like those who are still playful, but not necessarily with FS menu. Asian or Latina are my targets but any ethnicity over 60 would be an experience.

I enjoy Nana at Enliven, but lately work keeps me along I95 corridor.

Member #6802
11-19-22, 16:04
I still venture to other areas to explore but we have it pretty good in Woodbridge imo. The AMP / LCS / ACS opportunity is maybe the only positive about the area. Which might be saying something LOL.Fairly new to the hobby, since late August '22. I have been tempted to visit the 2 AMPs you recommended. I hadn't seen any reviews of them before yours. (And agree that the MPs seem to be the one good thing about this area lately.)

Among my "things to do" list is visit a Latina. Can you suggest a decent LCS in this area?

Feel free to PM if you prefer.

Gerzoomble
11-19-22, 17:34
Still, you all fine gentlemen may want to venture across the river once in a while. You may be surprised with quality massages you can get at least half of the time plus a more pleasant dream.

It seems that you all are very fond of Candy so enjoy! I just think that there is better value to be had by other means.Who are these women across the river? PG AMPs?

WillyBetten
11-19-22, 18:03
So she charges $160 for the massage plus $260 for CFS? Better to get a legit massage for $80 plus tip and dream pounding an awesome looking 20 something year old across the river or at an agency for close to the same, right?No, $260 all in. Sorry I didn't make that clear.

Happy Guy 2
11-20-22, 00:49
Decided to try a Thai massage and some potential fun.

Was in Fairfax area and found Jasmine listed on Bedpage in Fairfax.

She was available. Texted and she sent address to private townhouse complex. Actually it was pretty far from Fairfax near or past Fairoaks mall. Nice setup for parking and entrance. Out on end of complex with few eyes around.

Given entry instructions. Nose small sexy lady with a smile. Gave her 150 for hour and she looked at me as if for more. I gave her another 50 which was my budget for lots of naked play but not FS since that is not my thing. Condoms are pleasure killers and BB can kill you totally.

She do pretty goo massage and a 30 min had me flip. She went right to business to relieve pressure but did not drop clothes. I asked her to drop dress and it finall did come off she had on a cute little g string that was sexy. She has a nice small body and finally I was relieved.

Cleanup was ok and she said her roommate Lily needed the room for a client. So Jasmine shorted me about 10 minutes and was pleasant.

Not a bad experience nor a great one. She offered next time 4 hands with Her and Lily. Did not see Lily except I think she had ad on bedpage too for Fairfax.

Would I repeat. No. AMPs are easier to set up and find. Nice gal but not chemically sexy to me. Not real try to connect from her.

But your experience might be different.

HG2.

Skooby
11-20-22, 07:34
Reading this got me wondering about older AMPs, which has become a new quest. I'd like to hear about the really older MTs in area; I'm talking at least 65+, maybe even 70'. Would like those who are still playful, but not necessarily with FS menu. Asian or Latina are my targets but any ethnicity over 60 would be an experience.

I enjoy Nana at Enliven, but lately work keeps me along I95 corridor.How old is Nana?

Member #6802
11-20-22, 08:18
How old is Nana?Her ad on bedpage says "34" but in person much older.

I'm guessing her age by comparison to a Filipina I know who is 59. I'd say Nana is mid-50's at best, but looks 60+. Nice body for her age, small boobs with some sag. But her ass is cute and round, nice enough to make younger women envious. The best part is her friendly attitude, and her skills and open mind that apparently is result of years in the industry.

https://us-nova.bedpage.com/therapeuticmassage/tyson-rsquo-s-va/22585967.html

Asphalt
11-20-22, 10:11
Tao Spa on Duke street just west of Old Town sits in the back of an office park. I rarely stop in because the service has been inconsistent for me over the years, but recently I did just to see what was new.

Coco met me at the door. She's probably early 30's, 5'2" or so and a tight body. Her English is ok but you have to be sure she has understood what you've just said. After I paid my. 7 for the hour she left me in a room and came back about 5 minutes later. The table is very comfortable with a heating pad which kept me comfy the whole time. Like most providers at AMPs, she wants to dig into the shoulders and take it easy on the legs. I'm the opposite, so I got her to take it easy up top but she never really got the pressure on my calves and hammies. After the flip she asked what I wanted and I said to take all the clothes off. "How much?" I offered 1. 0 and she didn't take the clothes off but just moved them nicely out of the way.

Coco has a really nice firm figure with standup B cups and round butt. I nursed a bit and reached around back for a little FIV while she gave a pretty good handshake. Overall I think I offered too much while thinking I would get a little more out of her. If something more is on offer I don't know and I don't think it would be worth the price.

RickKrungThep
11-20-22, 10:27
Decided to try a Thai massage and some potential fun.

Was in Fairfax area and found Jasmine listed on Bedpage in Fairfax.

She was available. Texted and she sent address to private townhouse complex. Actually it was pretty far from Fairfax near or past Fairoaks mall. Nice setup for parking and entrance. Out on end of complex with few eyes around.

Given entry instructions. Nose small sexy lady with a smile. Gave her 150 for hour and she looked at me as if for more. I gave her another 50 which was my budget for lots of naked play but not FS since that is not my thing. Condoms are pleasure killers and BB can kill you totally.

She do pretty goo massage and a 30 min had me flip. She went right to business to relieve pressure but did not drop clothes. I asked her to drop dress and it finall did come off she had on a cute little g string that was sexy. She has a nice small body and finally I was relieved.

Cleanup was ok and she said her roommate Lily needed the room for a client. So Jasmine shorted me about 10 minutes and was pleasant..Thanks for your posting HG. Thailand is a place where I say the people never need customer service training because its build in with their culture and Buddhism. There was another review of Jasmine last week that was positive, and I was thinking to visit her this weekend before I leave town for T-day. Sounds like YMMV and she made her nut for the day with you, and gave you more excuses than value for money. Pretty much the same hustle as in Bangkok or one of the beach resort towns. In Thailand they refer to foreign men as 1. Water Buffalo, and / or 2. Walking ATM (there is even a t-shirt sold there with this printed on it). I learned a lot about the Bangkok game because I knew a Thai business associate that owned a bar when I lived there. When I moved back to NOVA in 2018, I did visit some of our well known Thai providers for massage and haircut, etc. I have consistently paid $120 for a massage, which is the going rate for the Thai ladies that work out of Tysons, Annandale and Fair Oaks. From your post sounds like she was greedy from the start, but good looking enough for you not to walk. They are excellent at what they do, but many here are way beyond the age limit for a pretty massage girl in Bangkok. There older women usually sit in a chair on the porch of a shop house and call to you for a foot massage. I have visited that crew that works out of a few places in Fair Lakes and its very hit and miss, with some ghosting me on my text at appointment time to get the final address. I have even been 5 minutes from Tara's apt and she texted me not to come! I guess she has enough regulars that she bumped me for one, who she knew would pay more. One of the Thai massage apartment addresses is on Rub Maps, and is across from the Walmart a few blocks. There has never been an open menu, except when I have visited a Thai lady that is on the Escorts page, and that was a bait and switch from petite sexy photos in the post, to an older women with extra pounds and was a mother with stretch marks. Even that was just so-so, and she limited the action and the time. Recently I visited 2 Thai ladies one outside of Manassas who complained way to much about men asking her for sex, but did give me a really great massage like at a famous upscale hotel she use to work for in Bangkok. There other is a student who rents a space in a small gym in Vienna, much more pleasant lady who is a student. If I want to be sure of a real Thai massage (Nuat), I just go to one of the store front shops where I can be assured to get the real thing but no extras.

Eddie223
11-20-22, 10:45
Fairly new to the hobby, since late August '22. I have been tempted to visit the 2 AMPs you recommended. I hadn't seen any reviews of them before yours. (And agree that the MPs seem to be the one good thing about this area lately.)

Among my "things to do" list is visit a Latina. Can you suggest a decent LCS in this area?

Feel free to PM if you prefer.Search for anjoy on escort alligator. Good luck, it's definitely a crap shoot. They have several locations so make sure you call Woodbridge ads. Also if there is a name on the ad, ask for it. The pics are real but sometimes you get sent to a different girl, I think they usually have 2 running in each location.

Edit: sorry this discussion would be better in escort section, however question was here.

SkinsFan1
11-20-22, 12:17
I visited Angel a couple of times and Pinetree once. Both are off of Blake Lane and many good reviews in the past.

Angel. More of a full nude body rub with a decent HJ. Ladies are very friendly in their late 40's to early 50's. Nice bodies with a modest ass for Anna (I think). Could not get Linda both times that I went but I briefly see her when she opened the door. Looked very decent. Again, no FS was offered. Shower is great with the appropriate amount of roaming. Anna was clearly more comfortable on my second visit. I don't mind just a HJ with sufficient roaming which was fully allowed. Those that enjoy DATY, etc will be happy, seemed like it was being offered. I only do my dining at home. I will return to see Linda or the other MP's and / or Anna. . 6 HH and. 8 FH with tip of 120 which is high for non FS.

Pinetree. An really good looker opened the door, did not catch her name. Got Tito who is in her 40's, decent looking with an awesome body (DD's and an ass to grab). She looked more Japanese than Korean which is where she is from. She went right to the deal off the bat to get it out of the way. HH. 6 / FH. 8 and asked for $$ for FS. I was a bit surprised and said it was high. She said since it's my first time go with 30 minutes and settled on FS for 1. 4. After that it was smooth sailing she said let me be go get a condom. Few minutes of massage and she got right down to business, massaged junior, CBJ, DS, and closed account with an amazing mission. Surprisingly for this old guy, I lasted for most of my time and she was an active (not stiff) participant and made the ride very enjoyable. Other than kissing, pretty much everything was on the menu.

Each trip takes seems to cost between 2 to 2. 5 depending on the arrangement. I think the initial salvo from Pine was a bit excessive and would have come to 2. 8 for a FH / FS. Not sure what others have experienced there. But they seem to be safe and enjoyable AMP's that I will enjoy for a bit.

Be safe and enjoy!

Vitamin2270
11-20-22, 21:09
PineT seems to be popular right now haha!

She asked if I had called. I had. Walked me to room and asked how long and if I had been there before, I said yes, a few times and handed her .6 for hhr. On her way out she asked if I wanted if I wanted a TS and I said yes (I had already showered but never hurts to help ease any doubt). She left for a few min to prep TS as I undressed and waited. Held my hand to the shower and laid down for a nice thorough cleaning. Here I got a better look at her in the light. She's def on the upper 30's side based upon the crows feet but her makeup is well done and she's got a great bod. Dried off 80% and walked back to room. Here she grabs towel and asks me to prop up leg on the bed so she can dry the jewels a little more. Here she asks what I was looking for and I told her just a little mouth action and asked how much, I led with 1. 2 and she countered with. 2 more. I wasn't in the mood to go back and forth so agreed and she told me to lay down. She left for a moment but when she returned I told her to skip the massage as I prefer to get in and out and just go straight for the goods. She pulls her dress down and pops her beautiful tits out, kneels and starts nice BLS and licking the shaft up and down to get me uppity. Much more bare tongue and lip service than I expected here in VA. She puts the jimmy on and begins a pretty nice CBJ. She's spirited and has great eye contact and dual hand and mouth service but after a few min I knew it just wasn't going to happen and she was def hot enough that I asked her how much more she would take for CFS, she asked how much I had and I just said I'd give. 4 more to which she responds "perfect!" and lays on her back. Beautiful tits, flat stomach, tight legs, beautiful little P. What a beautiful sight as I slowly enter her tight P and she moans and bites her lip while watching herself in the mirror. Mish, sideways, CG, K9 and I pound my way into the bag as she moans a believable org. She does a thorough hot towel cleanup with some spray and I start to get dressed. She tells me here that her name is Tito. Like the vodka, and that she works Fri, Sat, Sun. Been here for about 3 months and maybe stay for another 2. As I'm about to leave she taps junior and says she likes how clean I was and smelled and that she wouldn't normally kiss and lick as much down there if someone has any smell (Take notes gents, kep it neat, clean and smelling good). I took it as a compliment and thanked her and was on my way out. I'll def be back. I gave 5 star for massage even though I didn't get one and yes I'm aware 180 is a bit much for CBJ and CFS around here but to me an extra. 2 ain't much.

Happy hunting.

BarneySanders
11-21-22, 02:18
Who are these women across the river? PG AMPs?Yep. I used to dream those dreams and massages were surprisingly good often.

Member #6802
11-21-22, 07:43
Recently I visited 2 Thai ladies one outside of Manassas who complained way to much about men asking her for sex, but did give me a really great massage like at a famous upscale hotel she use to work for in Bangkok. Read this and got to ask, was her name Mira and works out of very professionally setup townhouse outside of Manassas? I used to go to her for quality massage. But she also commented more than necessary that she only does massage, but guys always trying to have sex. But the reason I stopped going was she never smiles, says she is focusing on her work. She is very friendly before and after massage, just not great conversation during.

In fairness, she does give GREAT massage $-h, $. 4- 90 minutes and worth every penny. In 4 visits, only stopped once to check phone, and only because she was waxing my short and curlies and I suggested she answer it to give me a break.

AvgJoe123
11-21-22, 11:59
She's def on the upper 30's side based upon the crows feet but her makeup is well done and she's got a great bod. Thanks for the great review. Could you provide some more details about her looks? Is she Asian or Latina? I know that they use fake names, but Tito doesn't sound Asian.

RickKrungThep
11-21-22, 13:37
Read this and got to ask, was her name Mira and works out of very professionally setup townhouse outside of Manassas? I used to go to her for quality massage. But she also commented more than necessary that she only does massage, but guys always trying to have sex. But the reason I stopped going was she never smiles, says she is focusing on her work. She is very friendly before and after massage, just not great conversation during.

In fairness, she does give GREAT massage $-h, $. 4- 90 minutes and worth every penny. In 4 visits, only stopped once to check phone, and only because she was waxing my short and curlies and I suggested she answer it to give me a break.The massage is excellent. Not 100% traditional Thai massage (Nuat). Yes it was like I hard to talk her down from her "hazard" of the business for about 20 minutes. I finally told her about my wife to get her off that topic. She is not a rookie. Her massage will help anyone feel better where they have stress, pain, etc.

DanznMan
11-21-22, 14:31
Thanks for the great review. Could you provide some more details about her looks? Is she Asian or Latina? I know that they use fake names, but Tito doesn't sound Asian.Tito is Korean with a pretty face, large breasts and nice legs. She has a bit of tummy. In my half hour session, I got some oild rubbed on my back and wiped off with a hot cloth. She gave a spirited CBJ, rode cow girl and took a pounding in missionary. Clearly would like more than $140 for CFS and insisted that if I did an hour massage ($80), CFS would be $160 or more.

Member #6802
11-21-22, 16:37
Tito is Korean with a pretty face, large breasts and nice legs. She has a bit of tummy. For clarification, which Pine MP was this. Pine Spa in Woodbridge or Pinetree Spa in Fairfax? I like Korean ladies.

DoctorDoctor
11-21-22, 20:10
The massage is excellent. Not 100% traditional Thai massage (Nuat). Yes it was like I hard to talk her down from her "hazard" of the business for about 20 minutes. I finally told her about my wife to get her off that topic. She is not a rookie. Her massage will help anyone feel better where they have stress, pain, etc.I saw her once. The massage was excellent. I would see her often if not for the travel time down and back.

BTW, She was talkative during my session, shared about her travels.

DanznMan
11-22-22, 07:42
For clarification, which Pine MP was this. Pine Spa in Woodbridge or Pinetree Spa in Fairfax? I like Korean ladies.Tito is at Pinetree in Fairfax.

DanteDk07
11-22-22, 10:04
PineT seems to be popular right now haha!

She asked if I had called. I had. Walked me to room and asked how long and if I had been there before, I said yes, a few times and handed her .6 for hhr. On her way out she asked if I wanted if I wanted a TS and I said yes (I had already showered but never hurts to help ease any doubt). She left for a few min to prep TS as I undressed and waited. Held my hand to the shower and laid down for a nice thorough cleaning. Here I got a better look at her in the light. She's def on the upper 30's side based upon the crows feet but her makeup is well done and she's got a great bod. Dried off 80% and walked back to room. Here she grabs towel and asks me to prop up leg on the bed so she can dry the jewels a little more. Here she asks what I was looking for and I told her just a little mouth action and asked how much, I led with 1. 2 and she countered with. 2 more. I wasn't in the mood to go back and forth so agreed and she told me to lay down. She left for a moment but when she returned I told her to skip the massage as I prefer to get in and out and just go straight for the goods. She pulls her dress down and pops her beautiful tits out, kneels and starts nice BLS and licking the shaft up and down to get me uppity. Much more bare tongue and lip service than I expected here in VA. She puts the jimmy on and begins a pretty nice CBJ. She's spirited and has great eye contact and dual hand and mouth service but after a few min I knew it just wasn't going to happen and she was def hot enough that I asked her how much more she would take for CFS, she asked how much I had and I just said I'd give. 4 more to which she responds "perfect!" and lays on her back. Beautiful tits, flat stomach, tight legs, beautiful little P. What a beautiful sight as I slowly enter her tight P and she moans and bites her lip while watching herself in the mirror. Mish, sideways, CG, K9 and I pound my way into the bag as she moans a believable org. She does a thorough hot towel cleanup with some spray and I start to get dressed. She tells me here that her name is Tito. Like the vodka, and that she works Fri, Sat, Sun. Been here for about 3 months and maybe stay for another 2. As I'm about to leave she taps junior and says she likes how clean I was and smelled and that she wouldn't normally kiss and lick as much down there if someone has any smell (Take notes gents, kep it neat, clean and smelling good). I took it as a compliment and thanked her and was on my way out. I'll def be back. I gave 5 star for massage even though I didn't get one and yes I'm aware 180 is a bit much for CBJ and CFS around here but to me an extra. 2 ain't much.

Happy hunting.Thanks for the review. So Tito is a pretty lady with pretty face? Are her tits natural? Would you say they are dd or even larger?

DanteDk07
11-22-22, 10:07
Tito is at Pinetree in Fairfax.How are Tito's nipples?

DanteDk07
11-22-22, 11:05
Got some intel to share- I just called Pinetree spa and they told me Tito won't be available until next Friday.

DanteDk07
11-22-22, 20:28
Got some intel to share- I just called Pinetree spa and they told me Tito won't be available until next Friday.Never mind. I take that back. I called again and was told its this Friday. She works Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays.

Pbarber307
11-23-22, 12:40
As I'm about to leave she taps junior and says she likes how clean I was and smelled and that she wouldn't normally kiss and lick as much down there if someone has any smell (Take notes gents, kep it neat, clean and smelling good). I took it as a compliment and thanked her and was on my way out. I'll def be back.Absolutely, but she did wash your dirty dick during the table shower.

DanteDk07
11-23-22, 17:29
Absolutely, but she did wash your dirty dick during the table shower.Right, if she says your dick is clean after table shower. Isn't it obvious its clean.

Can anyone please comment on whether tito's tits are natural? I am only fine with seeing naturals.

PilotAviator
11-23-22, 18:34
To the managers (MMS) and the fabulous ladies (massage technicians. MTs) of the establishments for which I have spent many a pleasant hour (or more), and to those ladies and places I have not yet visited. HAPPY THANKSGIVING!

I hope you have a day-or-two "off" -- I hope that time is stress free, and filled with friends, good food (and a few extra hours of rest).

- - -.

This is the holiday when we take time to be thankful, and when we should say "thank you" for all.

Those here on the board, and those providers who have become "monger friends" -- I am thankful for each of you.

Happy Thanksgiving + Happy all other Holidays!

Always be nice to the ladies!

PA.

DanteDk07
11-25-22, 09:56
PineT seems to be popular right now haha!

She asked if I had called. I had. Walked me to room and asked how long and if I had been there before, I said yes, a few times and handed her .6 for hhr. On her way out she asked if I wanted if I wanted a TS and I said yes (I had already showered but never hurts to help ease any doubt). She left for a few min to prep TS as I undressed and waited. Held my hand to the shower and laid down for a nice thorough cleaning. Here I got a better look at her in the light. She's def on the upper 30's side based upon the crows feet but her makeup is well done and she's got a great bod. Dried off 80% and walked back to room. Here she grabs towel and asks me to prop up leg on the bed so she can dry the jewels a little more. Here she asks what I was looking for and I told her just a little mouth action and asked how much, I led with 1. 2 and she countered with. 2 more. I wasn't in the mood to go back and forth so agreed and she told me to lay down. She left for a moment but when she returned I told her to skip the massage as I prefer to get in and out and just go straight for the goods. She pulls her dress down and pops her beautiful tits out, kneels and starts nice BLS and licking the shaft up and down to get me uppity. Much more bare tongue and lip service than I expected here in VA. She puts the jimmy on and begins a pretty nice CBJ. She's spirited and has great eye contact and dual hand and mouth service but after a few min I knew it just wasn't going to happen and she was def hot enough that I asked her how much more she would take for CFS, she asked how much I had and I just said I'd give. 4 more to which she responds "perfect!" and lays on her back. Beautiful tits, flat stomach, tight legs, beautiful little P. What a beautiful sight as I slowly enter her tight P and she moans and bites her lip while watching herself in the mirror. Mish, sideways, CG, K9 and I pound my way into the bag as she moans a believable org. She does a thorough hot towel cleanup with some spray and I start to get dressed. She tells me here that her name is Tito. Like the vodka, and that she works Fri, Sat, Sun. Been here for about 3 months and maybe stay for another 2. As I'm about to leave she taps junior and says she likes how clean I was and smelled and that she wouldn't normally kiss and lick as much down there if someone has any smell (Take notes gents, kep it neat, clean and smelling good). I took it as a compliment and thanked her and was on my way out. I'll def be back. I gave 5 star for massage even though I didn't get one and yes I'm aware 180 is a bit much for CBJ and CFS around here but to me an extra. 2 ain't much.

Happy hunting.Does Tito have natural tits? I need to know because I don't like enhanced tits.

WordEmUp123
11-25-22, 21:43
Does Tito have natural tits? I need to know because I don't like enhanced tits.I literally just got back from there and yes, they're natural. Looks better in the bra than out but she's keen to let you touch.

WordEmUp123
11-25-22, 21:48
Hey all. I'm new to the hobby, having just broken my cherry at a spa in Austin, Texas (Xa Foot Spa if anyone is curious) and I was lucky to greet Tito of Pinetree. Nice boobs, slim body, cute face, probably around 40, soft skin, soft hands. The only downside is, and I'm not trying to be funny, she can't take a man with "size" but good CBJ and HJ and lets you touch. I don't know how to do the money breakdown here yet but one-eighty total for me and she's really chatty and friendly. Only works Fri-Sun and speaks decent English. Enjoy if you go.

Member #6802
11-26-22, 09:33
I don't know how to do the money breakdown here yet but one-eighty total for me and she's really chatty and friendly. Only works Fri-Sun and speaks decent English. Enjoy if you go.Was the one-eighty (here $.8 - $=100 & . X for less than 100) in addition to house fee for massage? Did you do the half hour (HH) or full hour? Definitely better prices and pleasure than what I have experienced along Hwy 17 between Fredericksburg and Stafford.

DanteDk07
11-26-22, 21:48
Guys, my fav asian massage provider in this area is kiko at diamond flash. I think her huge ddd naturals are perfect (they have an ethereal feel and look to them). She is also good at being flirty, funny, relaxed, with a good spunky attitude.

And she pays compliments like you are so handsome.

But it's been a few months since I went to kiko.

I was wondering, are there any other good ladies at diamond flash? Who is yoyo (mentioned on rubmaps)? Does she (or other ladies there) also have a big natural rack?

HsvengDoc
11-26-22, 23:46
I happened to be up in Fairfax this afternoon and I had a chance to meet up with Tito at Pine. She is well worth your time. I found her to be a bit expensive but fairly accommodating and worthy of all the hype. I think Cherry was a better value but unfortunately that ship has sailed.

Adam2238
11-27-22, 07:34
So she charges $160 for the massage plus $260 for CFS? Better to get a legit massage for $80 plus tip and dream pounding an awesome looking 20 something year old across the river or at an agency for close to the same, right?Where do I find this place across the river?

Member #6802
11-27-22, 10:20
She (Tito) works Fridays, Saturdays, and Sundays.Unfortunately my schedule might keep me from getting there on the days she works. Has any mongers had similar experiences with other MTs at Pine Tree? I still want to visit the place and would like to know who to ask for and who to avoid.

Share here or PM me.

Vitamin2270
11-27-22, 18:17
Thanks for the review. So Tito is a pretty lady with pretty face? Are her tits natural? Would you say they are dd or even larger?Sure. She's def on the more attractive side. I'd give her at least a 6. 5, maybe 7. Her tits are a bit of an anomaly to me. They're a great tear drop shape, prob a D cup, and beautiful little almost eraser nips. My curiosity was peaked when she was laying on her back and they rested like implants. I purposely got a handful for bit while pounding to check for the implant but didn't feel anything hard or overfilled, honestly just soft and almost normal, so maybe they're natural, maybe its not a tight implant and placed under the muscle. Either way, I'm not a fan of implants and was very happy with these so if they're fake then they had me fooled.

Vitamin2270
11-27-22, 18:25
Absolutely, but she did wash your dirty dick during the table shower.I was showered before so no, it was def a clean dick.

I'm assuming she was also implying the fact that I'm well kept and all around clean. Plus, even though they give a little wash during the TS, some of you f*(s still have a dirty smelling dick and crotch afterwards from not keeping up with normal day-to-day hygiene. Either way, I'll take the tongue and compliment any day!

CoolWays
11-27-22, 23:58
Anyone have info on someone who gives a true nuru type massage? I mean the whole shower together and slow massage, I tried one it was off to the races the quicker she did the deed the better for her, I know time is money but I would like a nice slow enjoyable adventure, also please share a few details in age, looks and $$.

Thanks.

ChadZ77
11-28-22, 10:58
Anyone have info on someone who gives a true nuru type massage? I mean the whole shower together and slow massage, I tried one it was off to the races the quicker she did the deed the better for her, I know time is money but I would like a nice slow enjoyable adventure, also please share a few details in age, looks and $$..I dreamed with Veena L last spring in Centreville. She gave a nice massage. She didn't seem to rush the shower or massage but definitely rushed through the extras. She was fun and pleasant. There was no massage table just a bed which kind of takes a way from the experience. Anyway, she may be worth a try. She seemed open-minded and eager to please.

Member #6802
11-28-22, 11:21
Anyone have info on someone who gives a true nuru type massage? I mean the whole shower together and slow massage, I tried one it was off to the races the quicker she did the deed the better for her, I know time is money but I would like a nice slow enjoyable adventure, also please share a few details in age, looks and $$.

Thanks.Try this lady.

https://us-nova.bedpage.com/therapeuticmassage/fairfax-va/22553580.html

Visited her in September. I had a great time. Friendly sexy (for her age), great massage and her body against mine made me feel young again.

Best part, do negotiations before undressing so it doesn't dampen the experience. And you'll get every minute you paid for.

SlyFrog
11-28-22, 11:44
I had a really nice time with Lin, but I think she is gone:

https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/fairfax/22550944.html


Anyone have info on someone who gives a true nuru type massage? I mean the whole shower together and slow massage, I tried one it was off to the races the quicker she did the deed the better for her, I know time is money but I would like a nice slow enjoyable adventure, also please share a few details in age, looks and $$.

Thanks.

DonQuiote
11-28-22, 15:25
https://rubmd.com/washington-dc/9df05cab-035c-444e-a7cb-4d8c88451afb

Before I TOFTT, wondering if anyone has experience with this provider?

I was quoted $$$ / hr.

SlyFrog
11-28-22, 17:45
I think she used to advertiseas Monica who had some very good reviews but also has some bad ones.


https://rubmd.com/washington-dc/9df05cab-035c-444e-a7cb-4d8c88451afb

Before I TOFTT, wondering if anyone has experience with this provider?

I was quoted $$$ / hr.

SmittyJ
11-28-22, 22:38
Visited Vivi spa in Warrenton this afternoon for a 30 hh massage which cost me. 5 house fee. I drew Angela who is a cute 40 something Asian. Very typical, small chest, flat butt and thin. No extra's beyond NOVA here but I go for the great massage. I got a very nice 30 min medium pressure rub with minimal teasing. Hot towel to clean off any extra oil from the rub. Then the light rub started with teasing of Junior and the boys from behind for a few minutes. Then the flip, standard NOVA, had to tell her to slow down because she was off to the races at first. She did listen and it was very nice. Cleaned me up, left. 4 tip and was on my way out the door.

Overall, good experience. This place is always clean and reliable for a good rub and tug without breaking the bank. No negotiations and an overall pleasant customer experience.

SmittyJ
11-28-22, 22:46
2 weeks ago I was in Manassas and visited Green Castle Therapy just off business 234 on Crestwood Dr. I use to go here often years back and it is usually a good reliable place for a good rub and tug. Nothing more than standard NOVA from what I have been able to tell. I paid the. 6 house fee and drew a mid 40's lady who's name I can not recall. She was a little chunky, small breasts, flat butt and standard yoga pants. The massage was excellent (medium pressure) and she bent my legs into an L shape so that I was spread on the table to get better access to the boys and butt to do some teasing. I really enjoyed that. On the flip there was no negotiation, just confirmed I wanted "it" rubbed. The NOVA was good not complaints. Finished up and she cleaned me up and sent me on my way.

Overall good experience. The place is reliable for a good rub and tug. The building is getting older and outdated so its appearance could seem cleaner. That said, I did not see anything unsanitary. I will return when In the mood for a good rub and tug.

House. 6 Tip. 4.

AcheRon45
11-29-22, 00:06
Located in a shopping plaza off of Lee Highway in Arlington.

Rang the bell and was led to a room by an average looking Korean MILF that smelled of cigarettes and wearing jeans and a sweater. Figured I'd at least get a passable massage.

Room had a massage table, full ceilings and a door. In walked in, wearing Daisy Dukes and an orange halter top, the Crypt Keeper's grandmother.

I started getting dressed and Grandma Crypt Keeper went to get the MILF that answered the door. The MILF is now wearing a tight flowered dress and you could tell her tits and knees spend a lot of time together.

I asked for my money back and bolted. It was $80 for the hour for those more depraved than I am.

NyHornet
11-29-22, 00:08
2 weeks ago I was in Manassas and visited Green Castle Therapy just off business 234 on Crestwood Dr. I use to go here often years back and it is usually a good reliable place for a good rub and tug. Nothing more than standard NOVA from what I have been able to tell. I paid the. 6 house fee and drew a mid 40's lady who's name I can not recall. She was a little chunky, small breasts, flat butt and standard yoga pants. The massage was excellent (medium pressure) and she bent my legs into an L shape so that I was spread on the table to get better access to the boys and butt to do some teasing. I really enjoyed that. On the flip there was no negotiation, just confirmed I wanted "it" rubbed. The NOVA was good not complaints. Finished up and she cleaned me up and sent me on my way.

Overall good experience. The place is reliable for a good rub and tug. The building is getting older and outdated so its appearance could seem cleaner. That said, I did not see anything unsanitary. I will return when In the mood for a good rub and tug.

House. 6 Tip. 4.Probably 5-6 years ago, I was there and on outside door, bam, bam, bam Police let us in. I hurriedly put my underwear on and got under the sheet. The therapist left to answer and came back and said they were answering a medical emergency. The had the wrong building! Spiked my blood pressure for sure. I've been back, but not since pre-COVIID I think.

NyHornet
11-29-22, 00:14
Visited Vivi spa in Warrenton this afternoon for a 30 hh massage which cost me. 5 house fee. I drew Angela who is a cute 40 something Asian. Very typical, small chest, flat butt and thin. No extra's beyond NOVA here but I go for the great massage. I got a very nice 30 min medium pressure rub with minimal teasing. Hot towel to clean off any extra oil from the rub. Then the light rub started with teasing of Junior and the boys from behind for a few minutes. Then the flip, standard NOVA, had to tell her to slow down because she was off to the races at first. She did listen and it was very nice. Cleaned me up, left. 4 tip and was on my way out the door.

Overall, good experience. This place is always clean and reliable for a good rub and tug without breaking the bank. No negotiations and an overall pleasant customer experience.Last time I was there, several months ago, I was turned off by negotiations for some close removal and nursing. Name was Yuyu I think. They are generally nice 40 ish ladies with slim bodies who do as you say a decent massage and tug.

NyHornet
11-29-22, 00:24
Try this lady.

https://us-nova.bedpage.com/therapeuticmassage/fairfax-va/22553580.html

Visited her in September. I had a great time. Friendly sexy (for her age), great massage and her body against mine made me feel young again.

Best part, do negotiations before undressing so it doesn't dampen the experience. And you'll get every minute you paid for.My visit with Lucy was not good. Wasn't very friendly and I usually come across low key, and personable. I paid $120 for the hour and she wanted another $60 for a HJ. I rubbed her leg a bit, but no skin revealed by her. I've read other decent reviews where on the flip her breasts were out, etc. I didn't even really enjoy the massage because 2-3 times she did her Kasia Therapy, where she massages your balls in a non sensual manner that hurt.

I won't return.

AlmostRetired
11-29-22, 03:22
Located in a shopping plaza off of Lee Highway in Arlington.

Rang the bell and was led to a room by an average looking Korean MILF that smelled of cigarettes and wearing jeans and a sweater. Figured I'd at least get a passable massage.

Room had a massage table, full ceilings and a door. In walked in, wearing Daisy Dukes and an orange halter top, the Crypt Keeper's grandmother.

I started getting dressed and Grandma Crypt Keeper went to get the MILF that answered the door. The MILF is now wearing a tight flowered dress and you could tell her tits and knees spend a lot of time together.

I asked for my money back and bolted. It was $80 for the hour for those more depraved than I am.Oh Lawd! I'm in the area frequently and have thought about swinging by them a few times. Happy I did not. Always looked very run down. Another on Lee Hwy is K wellness but the entrance is right on the very busy Lee hwy, at a busy intersection with Glebe Rd, not at all ideal for discreet access.

Member #6802
11-29-22, 09:16
2 weeks ago I was in Manassas and visited Green Castle Therapy just off business 234 on Crestwood Dr. I use to go here often years back and it is usually a good reliable place for a good rub and tug. Nothing more than standard NOVA from what I have been able to tell. I paid the. 6 house fee and drew a mid 40's lady who's name I can not recall. She was a little chunky, small breasts, flat butt and standard yoga pants. The massage was excellent (medium pressure) and she bent my legs into an L shape so that I was spread on the table to get better access to the boys and butt to do some teasing. I really enjoyed that. On the flip there was no negotiation, just confirmed I wanted "it" rubbed. The NOVA was good not complaints. Finished up and she cleaned me up and sent me on my way.

Overall good experience. The place is reliable for a good rub and tug. The building is getting older and outdated so its appearance could seem cleaner. That said, I did not see anything unsanitary. I will return when In the mood for a good rub and tug.

House. 6 Tip. 4.Thanks for sharing. After more than a few bad to mediocre visits to other AMPs, nice to know there's one that offers decent massage and HE without having to shell out more than $.

AvgJoe123
11-29-22, 12:41
Located in a shopping plaza off of Lee Highway in Arlington.

Rang the bell and was led to a room by an average looking Korean MILF that smelled of cigarettes and wearing jeans and a sweater. Figured I'd at least get a passable massage.

Room had a massage table, full ceilings and a door. In walked in, wearing Daisy Dukes and an orange halter top, the Crypt Keeper's grandmother.

I started getting dressed and Grandma Crypt Keeper went to get the MILF that answered the door. The MILF is now wearing a tight flowered dress and you could tell her tits and knees spend a lot of time together.

I asked for my money back and bolted. It was $80 for the hour for those more depraved than I am.It sounds like Tokyo Therapy has gone downhill since my early days of mongering many years ago (or perhaps my standards have evolved). My recollection from years ago was that the provider was older but had a banging body (fit / toned). I also recall that someone in the Columbia (Maryland) forum was looking for older providers. You might consider reposting there.

Dunnit
11-29-22, 13:24
My visit with Lucy was not good. Wasn't very friendly and I usually come across low key, and personable. I paid $120 for the hour and she wanted another $60 for a HJ. I rubbed her leg a bit, but no skin revealed by her. I've read other decent reviews where on the flip her breasts were out, etc. I didn't even really enjoy the massage because 2-3 times she did her Kasia Therapy, where she massages your balls in a non sensual manner that hurt.

I won't return.Ditto this. I met her through KK and also had a disappointing visit with much upsell, which I declined. She did get topless but wasn't friendly. It is her in the pics though, so there's that.

Electric456
11-29-22, 14:53
Oh Lawd! I'm in the area frequently and have thought about swinging by them a few times. Happy I did not. Always looked very run down. Another on Lee Hwy is K wellness but the entrance is right on the very busy Lee hwy, at a busy intersection with Glebe Rd, not at all ideal for discreet access.FYI there is a side entrance to K wellness easily accessible from the parking lot. They have dedicated parking spots, but if you want to be really discrete you can park in the neighborhood and walk through the parking lot to the side alley entrance.

HighTemp
11-29-22, 17:34
While browsing through bedpage, I came upon an ad for a AMP in Manassas, where the address was similar to one that I have been before. 7 Star Massage is the name. If you have been to Comfort Massage, off of Rt 28 where the entrance faces the road, the new place is in the next building over. The entrance faces the side of the building where Comfort Massage and other office suites are located. I would advise to park in the back (off of Mathis Ave) and take the sidewalk to 7 Star vice parking in front if you want to be discreet. Exact address can be found on rubmaps. Here is the bedpage ad (if it's still up):

https://nova.bedpage.com/Escorts/8622-centreville-rd-manassas/22510429.html

It's 50 for half hour and 70 for the hour..After seeing this review and saw this place one day after coming out of comfort massage, I finally took the plunge and walked into 7 star. Little did I know, I am about to have the worst AMP experience and met the masseuse from hell.

When I walked into this place, a girl is sitting in the front desk. She is young, but average looking, with quite few acne on her face, and looks like no make up. She's wearing long skirts, instead of the usual yoga pants or daisy shorts. So I wasn't sure if she's just the front desk person or the actual technician. She directed me to a room, then ask how long I want. I realized she's the masseuse. I think she's just too average looking, and also want to see if better option is available. I ask her if she's the only one or if there is anyone else. She said there was and out she walked to another room and I can hear she is saying to other girl: here comes one who want to pick girl.

A girl walked over, I saw she's young, probably in her early 20 (I am quite sure of this, I can tell asian / Chinese women's age). No acne on her face, wearing daisy shorts. Hmm, much better I said to myself and glad that I asked. I said ok, I will go with her.

We switched to another room, I gave her the house fee and she said "no big job" and "no this", she signed with her hand close to her mouth. I laughed. It's good she knows what's going on. I thought this will be easy then.

I tried to make some small talk like usual, but every conversation was met with a rebuttal:

"Can you do hard massage?" "For that you have to go to those middle age 40's and 50's year old women's place".

"What's your name?" "We are not that familiar to know each other's name".

"You are not that talkative, aren't you?" "You are joking, right? We don't even know each other, what's to talk. Most customer come here to enjoy the quiet. ".

I tried to put my hand around her leg, she said "move your hand, your type asks a lot and make the most trouble".

Finally I had enough and said: "if you are so angry and don't want to earn the money, we can always switch. " She then replied "the clock already started and can't switch".

From that point on, it's just silent and I didn't say anything further. At 50 min mark, she started finger tip ticking. I know this is the starting pointing for the HJ, I immediately got up and said that's enough, I don't want anything more.

While I get dressed, she did her cleanup and all of sudden she said: " it's $20 tip for the massage". I said to her "how dare you ask for tip! You gave customer nothing but unhappiness" But I still pull out a 20 and put on massage bed, she just happen did sheet and blow the 20 on the floor. I did not pick that up. I said to her "you should not be in service industry" and then stormed out of front door.

DonQuiote
11-30-22, 12:36
I think she used to advertiseas Monica who had some very good reviews but also has some bad ones.Thanks for the help.

I know so many use fake pics, but when they say 100% real pics and then I see that the photos came from another site, I don't like to risk being sorely disappointed.

I found the 100% real pics at this site as well: https://www.relaxsociety.com/board/index.php?topic=87708.0.

Member #6802
11-30-22, 14:32
It sounds like Tokyo Therapy has gone downhill since my early days of mongering many years ago (or perhaps my standards have evolved). My recollection from years ago was that the provider was older but had a banging body (fit / toned). I also recall that someone in the Columbia (Maryland) forum was looking for older providers. You might consider reposting there.Maybe I am depraved or bored with most AMPs and upselling? But I'm definitely putting this place on my list just for the fun of it, worst case scenario I get a mediocre massage out of it. Does anyone know the name of these ladies, or should I ask for the Crypt Keeper's grandmother?

Not actually that into very old Asian MTs, but have had a couple of non-MT experiences with Asian grannies. When I met my Asian wife 12 years ago, there was a friend of hers, easily 75 years old, who was very flirty. Hooked up with her before wife and I started getting serious. To this day, one of the top 10 fu*ks of my life. Dark room and eyes closed helped but she definitely knew what she was doing and enjoyed sex.

So anything is possible. Mostly, I have to see these 2 women for myself. LOL.

Member #6802
11-30-22, 14:46
Ditto this. I met her through KK and also had a disappointing visit with much upsell, which I declined. She did get topless but wasn't friendly. It is her in the pics though, so there's that.Sorry to read others had disappointing experiences with Lucy. Perhaps we just clicked and had natural chemistry? I really think because we did all the requests & negotiations before undressing, it made my experience a great one. She was fully naked and straddled my Johnson without actually doing FS, HJ was done to get me to finish. Dropped $$.6 with no regrets. Distance and timing are the only things preventing me from seeing her again.

NyHornet
11-30-22, 15:01
After seeing this review and saw this place one day after coming out of comfort massage, I finally took the plunge and walked into 7 star. Little did I know, I am about to have the worst AMP experience and met the masseuse from hell.

When I walked into this place, a girl is sitting in the front desk. She is young, but average looking, with quite few acne on her face, and looks like no make up. She's wearing long skirts, instead of the usual yoga pants or daisy shorts. So I wasn't sure if she's just the front desk person or the actual technician. She directed me to a room, then ask how long I want. I realized she's the masseuse. I think she's just too average looking, and also want to see if better option is available. I ask her if she's the only one or if there is anyone else. She said there was and out she walked to another room and I can hear she is saying to other girl: here comes one who want to pick girl.

A girl walked over, I saw she's young, probably in her early 20 (I am quite sure of this, I can tell asian / Chinese women's age). No acne on her face, wearing daisy shorts. Hmm, much better I said to myself and glad that I asked. I said ok, I will go with her.

We switched to another room, I gave her the house fee and she said "no big job" and "no this", she signed with her hand close to her mouth. I laughed. It's good she knows what's going on. I thought this will be easy then..Wow. Something changed. Been there twice and saw Amy. Younger but not 20's. Got BJ both times but also shorted time because customers kept coming in. I was promised extra time next time. I tried 3-4 weeks ago and a different lady came out and their was a 45 minute wait so I went to Comfort where a new young lady named May took care of me with just the NOVA typical for Comfort.

SexyD
11-30-22, 16:32
$$.6 for a HJ? This is why providers ask for so much and give so little.


Sorry to read others had disappointing experiences with Lucy. Perhaps we just clicked and had natural chemistry? I really think because we did all the requests & negotiations before undressing, it made my experience a great one. She was fully naked and straddled my Johnson without actually doing FS, HJ was done to get me to finish. Dropped $$.6 with no regrets. Distance and timing are the only things preventing me from seeing her again.

PuntaJaco43
11-30-22, 17:57
Maybe I am depraved or bored with most AMPs and upselling? But I'm definitely putting this place on my list just for the fun of it, worst case scenario I get a mediocre massage out of it. Does anyone know the name of these ladies, or should I ask for the Crypt Keeper's grandmother?

Not actually that into very old Asian MTs, but have had a couple of non-MT experiences with Asian grannies. When I met my Asian wife 12 years ago, there was a friend of hers, easily 75 years old, who was very flirty. Hooked up with her before wife and I started getting serious. To this day, one of the top 10 fu*ks of my life. Dark room and eyes closed helped but she definitely knew what she was doing and enjoyed sex.

So anything is possible. Mostly, I have to see these 2 women for myself. LOL.I was not going to comment on Tokyo, but I thought I better now that you are contemplating a visit. It's been a year since I dropped in on this place. The woman that answers the door is very old and does smell of cigarettes; she is the owner. She assured me that her girls were young and that I would be very satisfied. I booked an hour for the $80, she takes me to the room and tells me to undress. Within a few minutes a strange looking woman walks in with a mask that almost completely covered her face. This and the and the way she was dressed made it hard to discern her age. I knew that I was in trouble by the way she walked when she took me to the stand-up shower. When it came time to dry me off, she could not kneel down and she was moaning. Once back on the table. I lay flat on my back because I wanted to get this over with. We negotiated $100 for a CBJ. She comes back with a cover plus a plastic sandwich bag. (I kid you not). She puts on the cover and then takes the bag and wraps it around my hand, she lifts her leg and pulls my hand up into her vaginal.

Before I left, I asked her to remove her mask, that was my second mistake. On the way out the owner asked if I had had a good time. I responded, "The Best".

I am not going to say anymore.

Regards.

Member #6802
11-30-22, 18:28
$$.6 for a HJ? This is why providers ask for so much and give so little.Wasn't just a HJ. Hour long massage that included naked b2 b, allowed to touch the kitty (no FIV), suck the girls, HJ after she rubbed her kitty all over it (I chose not to FS), and shower together.

Maybe it's because I am still fairly new to this, but have spent almost $$ just for topless HJ and only OTC touching from some MT watching the clock.

Member #6802
11-30-22, 18:42
I was not going to comment on Tokyo, but I thought I better now that you are contemplating a visit. It's been a year since I dropped in on this place.

Before I left, I asked her to remove her mask, that was my second mistake. On the way out the owner asked if I had had a good time. I responded, "The Best".

I am not going to say anymore.

Regards.Thanks for the advisement. Point well taken. I'm not so hyped to go that I've already scheduled a sick day at work and stopped by the ATM. LOL No, this would be one of those "if I'm in the neighborhood" kind of visits.

And truth be told, after last few visits to AMPs that aren't highly reviewed, most likely would go just for the massage and see these ladies for myself, I. E. , won't be going to have sex. If they're as bad as reviews say, I won't have a problem saying "no thanks, just the massage. ".

Bottom line. This hobby and reviews tend to get too serious. It's nice to find some amusement in it other than sex.

Asphalt
11-30-22, 19:17
I finally got an appointment with Jin. It was unremarkable, even as a strictly legit massage with no NOVA. Later I had a visit with another session with a new girl, Jessica. She's very tough on the body. I actually prefer that on my calves and hamstrings but not on my shoulders. No matter. She causes pain anyway and wouldn't let up when I complained. Jenny and Anna do the best jobs there, no extras from any of them but generally a good legit massage.

Asphalt
11-30-22, 19:42
A few days ago I crossed the Wilson Bridge into MD and went to get what I thought would be a massage and got a lot more. I left a report in the PG County section if anyone is interested.

KingArt
11-30-22, 23:24
Wasn't just a HJ. Hour long massage that included naked b2 b, allowed to touch the kitty (no FIV), suck the girls, HJ after she rubbed her kitty all over it (I chose not to FS), and shower together.

Maybe it's because I am still fairly new to this, but have spent almost $$ just for topless HJ and only OTC touching from some MT watching the clock.That's still way above average but hey, it's your money and you can chose to waste it however you want (it used to be $. 8 to $$ in places like Angel Therapy and FHOH). Looks like I might have to quit this hobby soon if prices continues to rise at this insane rate, but this may not be a bad thing after all.

SexyD
12-01-22, 07:08
Nude, touch / suck tits, touch kitty, etc are normally considered to be part of standard.

NOVA. If I get to give oral than I will pay a little more. For what you are paying, you should be getting FS or BBFS (if that is your thing). Once you give a provider more than normal, you reset her price expectations for everyone and although she may eventually accept less, it will never be done enthusiastically.


Wasn't just a HJ. Hour long massage that included naked b2 b, allowed to touch the kitty (no FIV), suck the girls, HJ after she rubbed her kitty all over it (I chose not to FS), and shower together.

Maybe it's because I am still fairly new to this, but have spent almost $$ just for topless HJ and only OTC touching from some MT watching the clock.

Samizza
12-01-22, 09:16
Anyone visited her? Or is this a previously known provider rebranding herself?

https://nova.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/mclean/22601445.html

TheDrowned
12-01-22, 14:15
I know it's been a while since I've posted. My thirst for new horizons hasn't halted but I find myself being less loose lipped on parading my adventures.

But in any case I will divulge a few tales on my journey to the nicknamed DMV latinas that work out of a place in Francoinia headed by Magi who has been reviewed here previously.

Magi: I'll start with the captain of the crew. She's in her 40's. I think she's Mexican. She is hard to describe as she is not necessarily a spinner but not wholly unattractive either. She's ok. Dark curly hair and usually works in a sports bra and yoga pants. 90 $ for a massage with upgrades available for another $40. Her technique is ok, mainly just a rub with oil. On the flip she will offer a standard HJ and lift open her top and let you play with her boobs for $130 all in. Her boobs are ok. Enough to generate the pop out of me. They're not too big not too small. Average. I haven't been able to get more out of her than just the standard. But I've only seen her twice because I got the feeling things wouldn't improve. She's ok truly a 5/10 on all scales. It's a balanced visit. A safe bet if you don't like rolling the dice.

Alex: she's from Bolivia. 28, young looking but on the heavier side. She is only available on sundays and mondays. She gives another oily body rub. A mediocre massage with a flip. It's only Standard NOVA with her. Same price point as Maggie. Mostly OTC roaming if she likes you tho after a couple of visits, I got her to allow some UTC roaming and feel her nipples. They're ok. Kinda on the small side which is a disadvantage for her since she's chubbier than the other ladies. To her credit she has good HJ technique. I'd argue the best of the three, but I don't think it's enough to win over most folks here on the board. She's a sweetheart though.

Alis: Easily the hottest of the bunch. I think she's from Guatemala? Or Nicaragua? I could be mistaken but she's Central American. She's 24, total spinner, into hiking and fitness and has an ass that can kill. Juicy, bubbly, and begging for a spank. Unfortunately, she's the most prude of the bunch. Her massage isn't much better than the gals I previously mentioned but Alis can get by on looks. She works evenings there. I've seen her about 4 times now and can see she's a bit confusing, because 2/4 times I've been able to sneak into her bra and get her to show me her boobs. Tiny but gorgeous. She's got a body that turns me on. But on my last visit she wouldn't let me see them, despite showing it to me with no problem last time. So I don't know what gives I guess you have to luck out and get her when she's horny or something. She won't do more than the HJ but that's ok I just imagine me plowing her juicy ass and it's enough to get me to explode all over her hands. That being said, I just wish she was more consistent. She's also more $$ and charges $160 for the all in.

I think there's another lady who works there but I haven't had the chance to see her.

But there's my intel on the DMV latinas for Franconia.

Water forgets the names of TheDrowned.

Mike85
12-01-22, 15:41
Have any of you met cielo in Manassas. I planned to visit her but at the time she was working out of a home and wouldn't provide an address until immediately before the massage. Since then she claims she works out of an office, but is only available 5-9 pm.

Mike85
12-01-22, 15:46
Have any of you met cielo in Manassas. I planned to visit her but at the time she was working out of a home and wouldn't provide an address until immediately before the massage. Since then she claims she works out of an office, but is only available 5-9 pm.

Sorry for the double post, I had hit the wrong button.

Loader401
12-01-22, 17:59
Yes that was HWC. Always good times. HWC and Sakura/ Rte 1 Potomac were my go to locations. Rte 1 Potomac still up and running through the highs and lows. I think HWC may have been Health Wellness Center.I read this post and couldn't remember the other one I frequented when living in Lake Ridge. But now I remember. HWC had the best line ups. The girls would flirt with you for a good 10-15 secs to get your attention. The other place was off of Occoquon Road and the name was Kinja Accupressure I believe. Mamasan was not too old and she was hot. She also had a vibrator that she would play with herself when doing the deed. Anyone else remember this? Am I getting the name right? The stand alone house looking place from years ago?

NyHornet
12-01-22, 21:17
Nude, touch / suck tits, touch kitty, etc are normally considered to be part of standard.

NOVA. If I get to give oral than I will pay a little more. For what you are paying, you should be getting FS or BBFS (if that is your thing). Once you give a provider more than normal, you reset her price expectations for everyone and although she may eventually accept less, it will never be done enthusiastically.Maybe in your world, all those extras are part of standard NOVA but for the vast majority, standard is a HJ and maybe some roaming. Anything more is above the norm.

Maybe you'd like to share your secret for success.

Adam2238
12-01-22, 21:51
I saw candy no pain no gain again, been almost two years. Not sure if my memory failed me or it's an older and thicker replacement but she was not like I remembered. Decent massage, I'd say above average. On a bed not a table but I think she mentioned she has one. Paid the $$$ for FS which I regret. Yes she has amazing tits but like someone said very flat nipples. I was really looking forward to this since last time I did not do FS bc that's not my thing but in my mind I thought she was a lot hotter. It's the same phone number bc I still had our conversation from way back but honestly I'm not sure if it was the same girl. She was super nice and and into it I just wasn't feeling it as I had my expectations up high.

The biggest thing to share though was I had to wait a few minutes past my time to enter her place and she shorted me 15 on the backend so a total of 20 minutes shorted for that price. Not worth it, will not repeat. Stupid head of mine won this battle tonight LOL.

Barkeater
12-02-22, 00:20
Judging by her photos she is either working with the other dmv latinas, or stealing their ad copy! I have the same questions.


Have any of you met cielo in Manassas. I planned to visit her but at the time she was working out of a home and wouldn't provide an address until immediately before the massage. Since then she claims she works out of an office, but is only available 5-9 pm.

Sorry for the double post, I had hit the wrong button.

SexyD
12-02-22, 06:13
The secret is to have some self respect about yourself and your money. If a provider doesn't provide what I consider minimal access, then I get up and walk and never return. The providers know the job they are in and what that requires. Access to BJ and FS of course vary by the individual and are totally optional. It makes me laugh when adult men are bragging about how they got some OTC action with a 65 year old granny. You are a consumer of a business service, they are a provider of a business service. You wouldn't patronize a restaurant that never served the meal that you desire would you so why accept less with this?


Maybe in your world, all those extras are part of standard NOVA but for the vast majority, standard is a HJ and maybe some roaming. Anything more is above the norm.

Maybe you'd like to share your secret for success.

Member #6802
12-02-22, 10:51
I know it's been a while since I've posted. My thirst for new horizons hasn't halted but I find myself being less loose lipped on parading my adventures.

But in any case I will divulge a few tales on my journey to the nicknamed DMV Latinas that work out of a place in Francoinia headed by Magi who has been reviewed here previously.Would you mind sharing the name of the place in Franconia or a link? I have never had a Latina MT (yet) and $.3 with an average back rub is still better than some AMPs I've visited.

Member #6802
12-02-22, 11:17
The secret is to have some self respect about yourself and your money. If a provider doesn't provide what I consider minimal access, then I get up and walk and never return. You are a consumer of a business service, they are a provider of a business service. You wouldn't patronize a restaurant that never served the meal that you desire would you so why accept less with this?You make some valid points regarding having self respect and knowing what one is willing to pay.

In the past I have shelled out more than normal rates for standard NOVA along with seeing and touch some skin. This was due to a combination of being naive to going rates and mentality from what I was "taught" about the bar girls in Korea back in '81. This has changed of late. Tired of walking out of an MP thinking I just spent $$+ for a HJ that I can do alone for free. LOL.

Visited a little reviewed AMP yesterday and drew a line in sand when it came to what I paid versus what she wanted; will post review soon.

Point being, you hit the nail on the head: have some self respect and know what your willing to pay for what you're craving that day.

Two rules I've established are: do the negotiations up front (before the flip), and pay with cash for what I want and receive.

In reference to 65 year old granny, Nana at Enliven offered and gave a lot for less than 2 Ben Franklin's. Might have finished with HJ but what she did to get me there was well worth it and less than what others want for same services.

PuntaJaco43
12-02-22, 11:53
I know it's been a while since I've posted. My thirst for new horizons hasn't halted but I find myself being less loose lipped on parading my adventures.

But in any case I will divulge a few tales on my journey to the nicknamed DMV latinas that work out of a place in Francoinia headed by Magi who has been reviewed here previously.

Magi: I'll start with the captain of the crew. She's in her 40's. I think she's Mexican. She is hard to describe as she is not necessarily a spinner but not wholly unattractive either. She's ok. Dark curly hair and usually works in a sports bra and yoga pants. 90 $ for a massage with upgrades available for another $40. Her technique is ok, mainly just a rub with oil. On the flip she will offer a standard HJ and lift open her top and let you play with her boobs for $130 all in. Her boobs are ok. Enough to generate the pop out of me. They're not too big not too small. Average. I haven't been able to get more out of her than just the standard. But I've only seen her twice because I got the feeling things wouldn't improve. She's ok truly a 5/10 on all scales. It's a balanced visit. A safe bet if you don't like rolling the dice.

Alex: she's from Bolivia. 28, young looking but on the heavier side. She is only available on sundays and mondays. She gives another oily body rub. A mediocre massage with a flip. It's only Standard NOVA with her. Same price point as Maggie. Mostly OTC roaming if she likes you tho after a couple of visits, I got her to allow some UTC roaming and feel her nipples. They're ok. Kinda on the small side which is a disadvantage for her since she's chubbier than the other ladies. To her credit she has good HJ technique. I'd argue the best of the three, but I don't think it's enough to win over most folks here on the board. She's a sweetheart though.

Alis: Easily the hottest of the bunch. I think she's from Guatemala? Or Nicaragua? I could be mistaken but she's Central American. She's 24, total spinner, into hiking and fitness and has an ass that can kill. Juicy, bubbly, and begging for a spank. Unfortunately, she's the most prude of the bunch. Her massage isn't much better than the gals I previously mentioned but Alis can get by on looks. She works evenings there. I've seen her about 4 times now and can see she's a bit confusing, because 2/4 times I've been able to sneak into her bra and get her to show me her boobs. Tiny but gorgeous. She's got a body that turns me on. But on my last visit she wouldn't let me see them, despite showing it to me with no problem last time. So I don't know what gives I guess you have to luck out and get her when she's horny or something. She won't do more than the HJ but that's ok I just imagine me plowing her juicy ass and it's enough to get me to explode all over her hands. That being said, I just wish she was more consistent. She's also more $$ and charges $160 for the all in.

I think there's another lady who works there but I haven't had the chance to see her.

But there's my intel on the DMV latinas for Franconia.

Water forgets the names of TheDrowned.I like your review; it was thoroughly researched. I can see now why we haven't heard from you in such long time. I was missing your informative reviews and was wondering what happened. I would like to pose a question to such an experienced and esteemed member of this forum. "What MP is your favorite 10/10"? What woman is the basis for your comparison, determine the 5/10 rating for Magi's crew? Don't go back to far as many of us are new members and may not find relevance in your answer.

Regards,

For those that are interested or would like to chime in, below are my picks:

1). Linda at Angel Fairfax is my 10/10. I knew her when she was Sissy at King Spa back in early 2019. Her presentation, the way she greeted you all dolled up in a see-through negligee was just stunning. When I reconnected with her years later as Linda at Angel Fairfax, I didn't recognize her, but she is still my 10. Last visit was this past February.

2). My second favorite is Cindy, formally of Reston Wellness. This is one beautiful woman, maybe 45 years old with a very pretty face, long thick health hair, a gorgeous body with a pair of 36 DD. Great personality with a wonderful laugh. Her only drawback was a very flat rear end. If you can get past that she is a 10 in my book. Have-not seen her in a year.

3). My third pick is a woman named Nana; she worked at " The New Paradise " on Franconia, (now Queen). Nana was young, maybe 32 years old. She had one of the most perfect bodies that I have ever seen. Maybe 5'7 tall, 36 C's bordering on D's slender body but not skinny with a large booty, but perfectly proportioned. I would poke and stare at her body, I didn't think it was real, but it was all prime A natural. I saw her several times during the fall of 2018. She abruptly left early 2019. Never saw her again. Some on the board have mentioned a Nana that worked at Reston Wellness a while back. Might have been the same.

To conclude: I will admit that besides that three ladies above I have not met anyone that I would rate more than a 7/10, mostly 5's and 6's.

I shouldn't complain being an old Boomer.

TheOuroboros
12-02-22, 12:30
Maybe in your world, all those extras are part of standard NOVA but for the vast majority, standard is a HJ and maybe some roaming. Anything more is above the norm.

Maybe you'd like to share your secret for success.As with any hobby, there's not a lot of hand holding done to get newbies off on the right track. You kind of have to feel around (pun intended) and set your own rules and expectations because there's no moderation in this business both to its success and simultaneously it's detriment. What worked for me however, was that before I even ventured to my first AMP, I uncovered this website first and spent a good amount of my free time going through post after post and what the seniors call RTTF (reading through the forum) this helped me get a basic idea of what to expect at my visit and how much I should pay. But it didn't stop me from awkwardly tipping the MMS $10 as she was leading me out the door like some kind of Maitre 'D (it was awkward and thankfully I only ever made that mistake once) though some seniors even pointed out that back in the old days this kind of behavior was normal and sometimes even got you a better selection of ladies.

YMMV: your mileage may vary. The golden rule of mongering. The ladies aren't robots. Sure, some may have the personalities of one and streamline their services the same way to all men but most of the time Johnny Six-pack who dances his way into the AMP wearing his Corneliani and rolls a nat 20 on charisma is going to get better service for his dollar than 400 Pound Andy who shows up in sweatpants smelling like cigarettes and Doritos. It's a hyperbole sure but you need to course correct your expectations. The minimum is standard NOVA. A HJ with minimal roaming is the baseline any monger should expect with a typical "'massage" visit with anything more being an added bonus.

There's no wrong answer when it comes to tipping. It is afterall, well within your freedom to tip however much you please, but within reason. Anyone who tips $$ for a basic HE for instance is doing it wrong, period LOL.

A general guideline for me is this:

HE with minimal roaming (the bare minimum): $40.

HJ with revealing of breast and some breast play: $60.

Fully nude HJ with lots of mutual play / kissing, CBJ: $80-120 depending on a variety of factors, the age and sexiness of provider / the amount of services done / your overall enjoyment of the flip, ie: chemsitry.

BBBJ or CFS: 120-160 depending again on the same factors described. Now you may be inclined to tip more if you receive more or in order to develop a better relationship with the provider. I'm ok with going outside the baseline of the numbers I mentioned if it's within reason. I once paid $$$.5 to tip but it was for BBFS with a young provider. That was also the limit I set to myself. The highest I'm willing to pay for the service and it has to be the crme de la crme of services rendered with a bombshell of a provider.

It's all about setting expectations but also setting limits. I don't care how hot a provider is. I don't pay $100 for just a basic HJ, I may up it to 60 and use the NOVA+ bracket under the excuse the provider is hotter than baseline but I wouldn't go into CBJ / full nude play bracket for minimum service, I don't care how hot a provider is, I will walk away if quoted that much $ for service(and believe me I have). I can jerk off to better looking chicks on pornhub for free and get to the same endgame.

And again this is just the general guidelines that I follow when I monger you don't have to adopt them but also don't assume you can drop $. 60 tip to any provider and they're going to give you said service. A provider who only gives HJ to customers isn't suddenly going to do more just because you throw her extra bills. Even if Johnny Six-pack wrote a blazing review of the very same provider purporting he got BBFS for $$ all in. Expect the minimum but treat the bonuses with fair compensation. But don't go overboard and give $ tip for mediocre services either. Stay within the ballpark. Be nice, be polite, but also be smart with your money.

PuntaJaco43
12-02-22, 12:36
A few days ago I crossed the Wilson Bridge into MD and went to get what I thought would be a massage and got a lot more. I left a report in the PG County section if anyone is interested.I read your review on the PG board. Well done, you literally went the extra mile in search of quality. There's been a lot of chatter lately on the NOVA forum regarding the quality, the better service and more reasonable rates on the PG side. May be worth a look. Might make a good winter project. I 'll be sure to post on the PG side only while noting reference to the review on the NOVA section. I don't want to attract the wrath of the more senior members.

Regards.

Dunnit
12-02-22, 13:20
Anyone seen Vicky? Ad copy is similar to Apple in Tysons, so may be working with that crew.

https://us-nova.bedpage.com/therapeuticmassage/tyson/22602134.html

Silk3434
12-02-22, 16:47
Its a YMMV situation like the other DMV Latinas. Seen her at the private house a few times, and at her new location. Done the dead several times but like anything, its a YMMV service. She has DD's and a fat ass. Pretty thick girl all around with a cute face. The latina girls at FHOH spa are far better looking IMHO.

Member #6802
12-02-22, 16:50
As with any hobby, there's not a lot of hand holding done to get newbies off on the right track. You kind of have to feel around (pun intended) and set your own rules and expectations because there's no moderation in this business both to its success and simultaneously it's detriment. .Very well said. Wish I had seen something Ike this when I started mongering back in late August. Didn't even discover this site until I had visited a few places and over tipped for services.

But your advice and payment schedule tips are great. Enough said.

Metloaf
12-02-22, 16:52
I read your review on the PG board. Well done, you literally went the extra mile in search of quality. There's been a lot of chatter lately on the NOVA forum regarding the quality, the better service and more reasonable rates on the PG side. May be worth a look. Might make a good winter project. I 'll be sure to post on the PG side only while noting reference to the review on the NOVA section. I don't want to attract the wrath of the more senior members.

Regards.The Latina location chill and offers two attractive early to late 20's hard bodies. Both petite with different features.

Thanks again Asphalt.

Big Daddy Don
12-02-22, 22:33
I read your review on the PG board. Well done, you literally went the extra mile in search of quality. There's been a lot of chatter lately on the NOVA forum regarding the quality, the better service and more reasonable rates on the PG side. May be worth a look. Might make a good winter project. I 'll be sure to post on the PG side only while noting reference to the review on the NOVA section. I don't want to attract the wrath of the more senior members.

Regards.To my experience yes, good and bad. Pick your poison.

The good yes: Younger, yes. Hotter, yes. Sure thing, yes.

The bad yes: More businesslike and less likely to be genuine, yes. Odds of being more getto, yes, yes, check.

TheRabbit
12-03-22, 12:14
Does anyone know where I can find a Latina massage parlor located in Fairfax?

MikeWhiskey
12-03-22, 14:01
Its a YMMV situation like the other DMV Latinas. Seen her at the private house a few times, and at her new location. Done the dead several times but like anything, its a YMMV service. She has DD's and a fat ass. Pretty thick girl all around with a cute face. The latina girls at FHOH spa are far better looking IMHO.Quick Google of her number says she's a criminal intelligence analyst. I don't know about you but that's enough for me to steer clear of her LOL.

AcesUp219
12-03-22, 14:24
https://us-nova.bedpage.com/therapeuticmassage/mclean-va/22602771.html

Looks like Candy is back with a new number.

Member #6802
12-03-22, 18:23
Its a YMMV situation like the other DMV Latinas. Seen her at the private house a few times, and at her new location. Done the dead several times but like anything, its a YMMV service. She has DD's and a fat ass. Pretty thick girl all around with a cute face. The latina girls at FHOH spa are far better looking IMHO.I tried Google search using Cielo-escort-Manassas and came up empty. Being with a Latina is next on my check list. Do you have a link?

Member #6802
12-03-22, 19:26
Was running errand in Burke last week and had some time to kill. Although 3 MPs popped up in Adultsearch, none had reviews and didn't want to TOFTT at some remote place. Changed search to Fairfax and Kara Spa was closest to me.

Called ahead and made appointment for 30 minutes later. Very professional business center near GMU, but entrance is behind door to 4 business offices.

Was greeted by Lilly, appeared to be late 30's Korean with B cup and cute ass. Convinced her to lower mask and she has charismatic smile and warm brown eyes. Spoke better English than most AMPs.

Note: she was nervous when she saw my handgun and asked me if I would lock it in my truck. Because she asked nicely and without sounding like an anti-gun jerk, I did so.

Paid house fee of. 8 and got ready for table shower. Not too much flirting but had already admitted it was my first visit. Otherwise a good TS and she made sure every crack and crevice was clean and thoroughly rinsed off. Toweled me dry with a good mix of seeming to be a caring person but still g-rated flirting.

Massage started with her walking on my back (a first for me), then proceeded to use hands, asking if I mind if she used lotion since skin was dry. Once she started, I moved arms to be able to touch her, she stopped and put them back along my sides. I asked "no touching," she answered not yet.

The massage itself was fantastic, medium to hard, one of the best I've had (8-9/10). Found some knots and really worked them out.

Before the flip, suddenly felt her tits gently rubbing my back. Totally her choice, didn't ask for it, and having limited cash would have settled for uneventful massage. But felt those pencil eraser sized nipples drawing designs on my back was great.

On the flip, she got her mouth near my Johnson but I wasn't going to ask so she just started stroking, added a little oil, did a great job. She allowed me to roam over her panties (tiny skirt pulled up) and play with her soft, small tits.

Cold meds from earlier in day kept things from getting hard, but together, we finally worked out the tension there.

She heard door bell ring and I laughed, telling her to give me the hot cloth to clean up while she conducted business.

When she came back in, I was dressed and gave her. 6 (4 for the NOVA + 2 for great massage). She motioned to give her more but I politely said no, especially if you want me to come back. She didn't argue.

Overall 8/10, will definitely go back when I'm in the area.

YMMV I may have gained an edge by recalling the Korean expressions I learned while in country.

Silk3434
12-03-22, 22:24
Quick Google of her number says she's a criminal intelligence analyst. I don't know about you but that's enough for me to steer clear of her LOL.But the girl that I've met is not even 30 and can't speak more than a few words of english. So probably some case of double identity here. No way she's been working in Criminal Justice in California / Riverside to be exact for the past 30 years. (from the linkedin profile).

CoolWays
12-03-22, 23:39
A friend of mine recently visited an independent lady in the Tyson area, during the shower and massage the lady mentioned something about a bad lost or black lost of guys that they share, so when they are contacted they basically ignore or blow off the guy, also he said the lady told him several are now blocking or ignoring App calls, has anyone else run into that or know what site she was talking about?

RubLover21
12-04-22, 10:45
Fully nude HJ with lots of mutual play / kissing, CBJ: $80-120 depending on a variety of factors, the age and sexiness of provider / the amount of services done / your overall enjoyment of the flip, ie: chemsitry.

BBBJ or CFS: 120-160 depending again on the same factors described. Now you may be inclined to tip more if you receive more or in order to develop a better relationship with the provider. I'm ok with going outside the baseline of the numbers I mentioned if it's within reason. I once paid $$$.5 to tip but it was for BBFS with a young provider. That was also the limit I set to myself. The highest I'm willing to pay for the service and it has to be the crme de la crme of services rendered with a bombshell of a provider.

It's all about setting expectations but also setting limits. I don't care how hot a provider is. I don't pay $100 for just a basic HJ, I may up it to 60 and use the NOVA+ bracket under the excuse the provider is hotter than baseline but I wouldn't go into CBJ / full nude play bracket for minimum service, I don't care how hot a provider is, I will walk away if quoted that much $ for service(and believe me I have). I can jerk off to better looking chicks on pornhub for free and get to the same endgame.

.Concur. When I stepped back into the VA AMP scene I didn't really know what to expect the first time. I had 160 on me, booked the full hour and found myself with a mature but fascinatingly tiny provider and I wanted to see her naked. 100 was her idea of a tip for full nudity but she risked offering me a first-time discount. I did return repeatedly so it paid off. Today, house + 120 is my standard, up to a B2 B slide or 3 x 23.

Research. Some places are legit. I don't know of any legit places that have table showers. Legit places have few reviews on Rubmaps.

Manners! Be clean. Even if you're taking the TS option. Mop up a bit if you can't come straight from the shower. Plus points for being trimmed or shaved. You want your new friend to get her nose in there.

Unless you're confident of your performance, refrain from spanking the monkey, bashing the bishop, twanging the wire &c for at least 24 h prior. Nobody wants to be tugging on you for 40 minutes, like trying to start an old Chevy on a cold day.

Give yourself time and space. Be comfortable. Don't bring anything into the AMP except $ and car keys. If you want to, put house $ in one pocket and tip in another to avoid fumbling.

Let your lady take the lead to start, although if you're on a 30 min I think it's quite ok to say "start with soft touch". I had one great first-time experience recently. ST was barely started when the lady paused, I heard a rustle of fabric and then a nude body was sliding on me and a voice whispering in my ear "I like you". OTOH, if it's your first time with AMP or lady, there will be a pause and a negotiation. Be clear. "I want you to take everything off and make me c*m" is quite acceptable.

Whatever you do, start lightly and feel for signals. Do not, for example, go for the nips as if you're trying to tune your car radio in the hills of Appalachia. If she likes it so will you.

Likewise, communicate clearly if you want her to go faster or slower. Most ladies will give you your full time.

Above all, be nice. Counts more than a six-pack.

TheOuroboros
12-04-22, 12:06
A friend of mine recently visited an independent lady in the Tyson area, during the shower and massage the lady mentioned something about a bad lost or black lost of guys that they share, so when they are contacted they basically ignore or blow off the guy, also he said the lady told him several are now blocking or ignoring App calls, has anyone else run into that or know what site she was talking about?If they are blocking APP calls, then they will lose ALOT of business. Period. Not a good idea to use a real number in this case. Maybe burner would be the way to go but hey, If they block my number for using an APP that's fine by me. There's no lack of action here atm, plenty of options to choose from.

On the flip side, many ladies have regulars and don't deviate from the central curve but once that falls off and fails to be lucrative the policy will change real quick and the black list will become a lighter shade of grey. Believe that.

RubLover21
12-04-22, 12:17
Today, house + 120 is my standard, up to a B2 B slide or 3 x 23....
Above all, be nice. Counts more than a six-pack.P.S. House + 140 is the highest I have gone for CFS. I don't do BBFS and lube + hat = reduced sensation, and in any case there's a get-it-done factor with penetration. Some places push FS rather than just offering it, and I find that a turn-off. My impression is that LEO has not been busting parlors since the pandemic and higher service levels are easier to come by.

DoctorDoctor
12-04-22, 15:18
A friend of mine recently visited an independent lady in the Tyson area, during the shower and massage the lady mentioned something about a bad lost or black lost of guys that they share, so when they are contacted they basically ignore or blow off the guy, also he said the lady told him several are now blocking or ignoring App calls, has anyone else run into that or know what site she was talking about?

One thing to remember is these Indys don't live in a bubble. Yes, they share experiences, names, etc. It's a way of creating a "safety"net as it were.

AlmostRetired
12-05-22, 02:50
A friend of mine recently visited an independent lady in the Tyson area, during the shower and massage the lady mentioned something about a bad lost or black lost of guys that they share, so when they are contacted they basically ignore or blow off the guy, also he said the lady told him several are now blocking or ignoring App calls, has anyone else run into that or know what site she was talking about?I have long since suspected they have a network and so I am not surprised at all. A lot of the AMPs get their MTs from should I say a "larger" network. Years ago when I was still into outcall dreaming, the number that called me back was a Mamasan in NYC and she proceeded to tell me to say my type and she would deliver. Also when my fav MT at the time came over, a car and driver waited for her. Very few are truly 100% independent and with the madness that exists, it only makes sense they be safe out there. As we all should be.

CapitalSeeker
12-05-22, 09:54
Does anyone know where I can find a Latina massage parlor located in Fairfax?Not IN Fairfax I'm afraid, but the closest I'm aware of is For Him or Her. Pretty close to Tyson's Corner Center.

IIRC there's another Latina massage parlor that's opened recently. I've seen some chatter about it. But I think it's also closer in or nearby Tysons.

Fatpig
12-05-22, 09:59
https://us-nova.bedpage.com/therapeuticmassage/mclean-va/22602771.html

Looks like Candy is back with a new number.Looks like her rates are going up too. $120 for 45 minutes plus tip for NOVA.

TheDrowned
12-05-22, 17:37
Not IN Fairfax I'm afraid, but the closest I'm aware of is For Him or Her. Pretty close to Tyson's Corner Center.

IIRC there's another Latina massage parlor that's opened recently. I've seen some chatter about it. But I think it's also closer in or nearby Tysons.It was talked about on the board a couple of months ago. I wasn't sure it was still around so I had to RTTF and do some investigative journalism but I did find it and made an appt with a Venezuelan latina who was rocking a nice plump bum and some big ol teddies. I will write a more thorough review but not today. (I made the mistake of posting the night of the massage and it's a dead giveaway of my identity, as I know some of these ladies do indeed read our post. I'm not making that mistake again).

OldBoomer
12-05-22, 19:19
Was running errand in Burke last week and had some time to kill. Although 3 MPs popped up in Adultsearch, none had reviews and didn't want to TOFTT at some remote place. Changed search to Fairfax and Kara Spa was closest to me.

Called ahead and made appointment for 30 minutes later. Very professional business center near GMU, but entrance is behind door to 4 business offices.

Was greeted by Lilly, appeared to be late 30's Korean with B cup and cute ass. Convinced her to lower mask and she has charismatic smile and warm brown eyes. Spoke better English than most AMPs.

Note: she was nervous when she saw my handgun and asked me if I would lock it in my truck. Because she asked nicely and without sounding like an anti-gun jerk, I did so.

Paid house fee of. 8 and got ready for table shower. Not too much flirting but had already admitted it was my first visit. Otherwise a good TS and she made sure every crack and crevice was clean and thoroughly rinsed off. Toweled me dry with a good mix of seeming to be a caring person but still g-rated flirting.

Massage started with her walking on my back (a first for me), then proceeded to use hands, asking if I mind if she used lotion since skin was dry. Once she started, I moved arms to be able to touch her, she stopped and put them back along my sides. I asked "no touching," she answered not yet.

The massage itself was fantastic, medium to hard, one of the best I've had (8-9/10). Found some knots and really worked them out.

Before the flip, suddenly felt her tits gently rubbing my back. Totally her choice, didn't ask for it, and having limited cash would have settled for uneventful massage. But felt those pencil eraser sized nipples drawing designs on my back was great.

On the flip, she got her mouth near my Johnson but I wasn't going to ask so she just started stroking, added a little oil, did a great job. She allowed me to roam over her panties (tiny skirt pulled up) and play with her soft, small tits.

Cold meds from earlier in day kept things from getting hard, but together, we finally worked out the tension there.

She heard door bell ring and I laughed, telling her to give me the hot cloth to clean up while she conducted business.

When she came back in, I was dressed and gave her. 6 (4 for the NOVA + 2 for great massage). She motioned to give her more but I politely said no, especially if you want me to come back. She didn't argue.

Overall 8/10, will definitely go back when I'm in the area.

YMMV I may have gained an edge by recalling the Korean expressions I learned while in country.My mileage was somewhat different.

Kara was before Covid my go to AMP. Service fell off during the Pandemic. Your post told me I should return.

I called right at opening and asked fore Lily. The MamaSan told me she had a new girl I should come in and see. After a little back and forth I agreed. I was there 5 minutes later and greeted by Candy. Skinny Korean provider with a nice smile. I would put her at well preserved late 40's. Good looking for sure, but hair thinning to the point you can see her scalp if you look close.

Nice interaction. 80 for the house and off to the table shower. It was a very good table shower with everything cleaned well. I think she was preparing me for FS.

In the room a very good massage. Not CMT but still very good. At the flip I asked her if she wanted a massage. She enthusiastically said yes. I enjoyed giving her the massage, but did not do any FIV or DATY. Just a good massage. She did massage my cock a bit during her massage.

Ok, now I am back on the table and she askes what I want. I say just a hand job please. She looks a little disappointed and says ok 100. I say no, I only brought 60. Lots of histrionics. She puts her clothes on. I say, if you don't want to do a HJ for 60 (140 total), that is ok. She then says how about 80. I say no 60. She gives in and gives me a passable hand job and ends the session about 15 minutes early.

This would have been a very good session even with the ending early and the negotiation. However, as I am getting dressed she made it clear she was ANGRY. Her parting thought was "next time ask for Lily".

IMO 120 total should be enough for a clothes on OTC roaming HJ. I went 140 because she stripped down for me (I did not ask she just did it). For her second bid (80+80 = 160 total) I would expect a CBJ. For what she asked (180) I would expect a CBJ, prostate massage or more. I would not expect FS for 180.

I have a request. Everyone. Don't pay 180 for a massage and a HJ!

You can get an hour CMT massage for 65+15 or 80 with tip. You can get FS from a nice Latina or ACS for 80. That is a one hour CMT level massage and 15 minute FS for 160. Kara AMP does include a table shower and that is worth something. But a HJ, table shower and AMP massage is not worth 180.

All this said, thanks for the review.

Telcova
12-05-22, 19:50
(I made the mistake of posting the night of the massage and it's a dead giveaway of my identity, as I know some of these ladies do indeed read our post. I'm not making that mistake again).Ditto. Live and learn.

Galleon
12-05-22, 22:48
Quick Google of her number says she's a criminal intelligence analyst. I don't know about you but that's enough for me to steer clear of her LOL.Some more googling netted that on top of said position was when she was with the Cali Dept. Of Justice, she was simultaneously a massage therapist / massage business owner. This is confusing LOL.

NyHornet
12-06-22, 00:10
As with any hobby, there's not a lot of hand holding done to get newbies off on the right track. You kind of have to feel around (pun intended) and set your own rules and expectations because there's no moderation in this business both to its success and simultaneously it's detriment. What worked for me however, was that before I even ventured to my first AMP, I uncovered this website first and spent a good amount of my free time going through post after post and what the seniors call RTTF (reading through the forum) this helped me get a basic idea of what to expect at my visit and how much I should pay. But it didn't stop me from awkwardly tipping the MMS $10 as she was leading me out the door like some kind of Maitre 'D (it was awkward and thankfully I only ever made that mistake once) though some seniors even pointed out that back in the old days this kind of behavior was normal and sometimes even got you a better selection of ladies.

YMMV: your mileage may vary. The golden rule of mongering. The ladies aren't robots. Sure, some may have the personalities of one and streamline their services the same way to all men but most of the time Johnny Six-pack who dances his way into the AMP wearing his Corneliani and rolls a nat 20 on charisma is going to get better service for his dollar than 400 Pound Andy who shows up in sweatpants smelling like cigarettes and Doritos. Grip, this is an outstanding post. You certainly have a firm Grip on this hobby. When I got my first massage over 16 years ago I was very naive regarding this hobby. It took me awhile to figure out the deal but now with an estimated 700-750 massages from places like massage envy to FS AMPs and independent providers to my credit I know what my expectations are going in and only take $ the max I'm willing to pay with me. Sometimes I get what I desire and sometimes not and on those occasions I leave with some of the $ I brought. Yes, I have occasionally over tipped and recently I left Thai Lucy without eve a HJ because I refused to tip her another $40 above her $120 rate just to get a HJ after her very inconsistent massage. Yes, it's important to respect your hard earned funds but also respect the ladies. No matter their age or looks or skills some have limits and they need to be respected also. Then tip appropriately. I don't think I ever just got up and left just because a provider had limits. And never return? I might give the place some time before I return to see if there has been turnover in staff. In addition the experienced monger knows the menu may open up after a couple of visits. All part of the game.

KingArt
12-06-22, 00:39
My mileage was somewhat different.

Kara was before Covid my go to AMP. Service fell off during the Pandemic. Your post told me I should return.

I called right at opening and asked fore Lily. The MamaSan told me she had a new girl I should come in and see. After a little back and forth I agreed. I was there 5 minutes later and greeted by Candy. Skinny Korean provider with a nice smile. I would put her at well preserved late 40's. Good looking for sure, but hair thinning to the point you can see her scalp if you look close.

Nice interaction. 80 for the house and off to the table shower. It was a very good table shower with everything cleaned well. I think she was preparing me for FS.

In the room a very good massage. Not CMT but still very good. At the flip I asked her if she wanted a massage. She enthusiastically said yes. I enjoyed giving her the massage, but did not do any FIV or DATY. Just a good massage. She did massage my cock a bit during her massage.

Ok, now I am back on the table and she askes what I want. I say just a hand job please. She looks a little disappointed and says ok 100. I say no, I only brought 60. Lots of histrionics. She puts her clothes on. I say, if you don't want to do a HJ for 60 (140 total), that is ok. She then says how about 80. I say no 60. She gives in and gives me a passable hand job and ends the session about 15 minutes early.

This would have been a very good session even with the ending early and the negotiation. However, as I am getting dressed she made it clear she was ANGRY. Her parting thought was "next time ask for Lily".

IMO 120 total should be enough for a clothes on OTC roaming HJ. I went 140 because she stripped down for me (I did not ask she just did it). For her second bid (80+80 = 160 total) I would expect a CBJ. For what she asked (180) I would expect a CBJ, prostate massage or more. I would not expect FS for 180.

I have a request. Everyone. Don't pay 180 for a massage and a HJ!

You can get an hour CMT massage for 65+15 or 80 with tip. You can get FS from a nice Latina or ACS for 80. That is a one hour CMT level massage and 15 minute FS for 160. Kara AMP does include a table shower and that is worth something. But a HJ, table shower and AMP massage is not worth 180.

All this said, thanks for the review.I think you were too nice and even overpaid and she still wanted to take advantage of you as they typically do nowadays. You were even shorted and she got a free massage too from you (LOL). How can she treat you like that, seriously? Always treat the ladies with respect, very true, but good men deserve to be respected too.

Ksl93
12-06-22, 09:00
Had some time to kill and this place was the closest I could find and fairly new so I decided to try it out. Drew someone that was probably around 50, not fit, not fat either but had some decent breast. $50/30 mins seemed like a bargain for the entry fee compared to other places. Massage was a little bit better than a body rub, but still don't feel like you'll get a quality massage. Asked for $60 for NOVA and she got naked and allowed roaming so overall for $110 it wasn't that bad. Nothing spectacular out of it though, but an option if you just want something quick.

Idk85
12-06-22, 10:23
Some more googling netted that on top of said position was when she was with the Cali Dept. Of Justice, she was simultaneously a massage therapist / massage business owner. This is confusing LOL.The phone number probably belonged to another person and the person got a new phone number. A phone company will reassign a number if it is no longer being used.

Member #6802
12-06-22, 11:00
It was talked about on the board a couple of months ago. I wasn't sure it was still around so I had to RTTF and do some investigative journalism but I did find it and made an appt with a Venezuelan latina who was rocking a nice plump bum and some big ol teddies. I will write a more thorough review but not today. (I made the mistake of posting the night of the massage and it's a dead giveaway of my identity, as I know some of these ladies do indeed read our post. I'm not making that mistake again).Looking forward to your "After Action Report. " LOL.

Tried finding the intel by some RTTF but must have missed it.

Latina MT or MP is second priority on my "to do" list behind visiting a tall lady.

Barkeater
12-06-22, 13:03
But the girl that I've met is not even 30 and can't speak more than a few words of english. So probably some case of double identity here. No way she's been working in Criminal Justice in California / Riverside to be exact for the past 30 years. (from the linkedin profile).You mean the number ended in 2401? I didn't see anything like that, and I tried a few search engines.

Silk3434
12-06-22, 13:06
You mean the number ended in 2401? I didn't see anything like that, and I tried a few search engines.First result on google is the Linkedin profile of what's got everyone's red flags / alarms going off. Goggle 571 xxx2401.