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I noticed that the Red Barn has a lot of action lately so stopped by last night at 1am. Place is open until 5am and they had some fine ladies. Cover is 10. Seems like a lot of gangstas outside and cops were constantly rolling through. I didn't go in but got talking with a couple of ladies outside. Took one to the GR Inn and had a wild time. She is a hot Rican with a booty that shook all night. She rocked my world and then some. She said she went by Reeses probably because of the Ludicras song. Anyway, a fun time is possible again in GR and probably won't last too long.
I noticed that the Red Barn has a lot of action lately so stopped by last night at 1am. Place is open until 5am and they had some fine ladies. Cover is 10. Seems like a lot of gangstas outside and cops were constantly rolling through. I didn't go in but got talking with a couple of ladies outside. Took one to the GR Inn and had a wild time. She is a hot Rican with a booty that shook all night. She rocked my world and then some. She said she went by Reeses probably because of the Ludicras song. Anyway, a fun time is possible again in GR and probably won't last too long.Thanks for the report, could you please break it down on the amount you spent on her, how much the motel cost, how many times did you come, did you get BJ/FS, was she in a rush and do you have her digits with her permission to give it out to members who have experience and are ready to share information with you, if you don't mind.
I have at least two ladies number to share with you or anyone as long as you or anyone is ready to share. The ladies are either white, mexican/spanish or native american, they look very white and are average in body, they can stay all night or quickie, whichever you decide as long as you know how much you are willing to spend and be ready to negociate with them in a polite way.
I just love me some variety and many options LOL.
I'd be cautious about sharing digits, of a good provider, with someone who has only been on the board for a few days. I'd understand, if he could be verified as a legit hobbyist. I'd hate to find out that one of my regular providers is in the pokey, when I need some stress relief.
Thanks for the report, could you please break it down on the amount you spent on her, how much the motel cost, how many times did you come, did you get BJ/FS, was she in a rush and do you have her digits with her permission to give it out to members who have experience and are ready to share information with you, if you don't mind.
I have at least two ladies number to share with you or anyone as long as you or anyone is ready to share. The ladies are either white, mexican/spanish or native american, they look very white and are average in body, they can stay all night or quickie, whichever you decide as long as you know how much you are willing to spend and be ready to negociate with them in a polite way.
I just love me some variety and many options LOL.
I'd be cautious about sharing digits, of a good provider, with someone who has only been on the board for a few days. I'd understand, if he could be verified as a legit hobbyist. I'd hate to find out that one of my regular providers is in the pokey, when I need some stress relief.Thanks Grmojo, I understand where you coming from. I love/prefer new members and anyone else who is sharing information about any lady to at least say what price and services they got, especially if they have been on the board for some days or months.
I too see what you too are saying about a legit hobbyist and me too not seeing any of my good providers in the pokey too. But I feel people on here should encourage new members to share information, as long as they know to write about the price and services they got. Now if the lady was good, I would prefer them not to write in the open about the exact location where they saw her, since those information are better shared through private messages. Example I did not give out lisa exact location in the open but through private messages, but that candice and those two other ladies that I wrote about here that ripped me off a bit and lacked discretion, I would not be surprise if they are already in the pokey.
Wow, that is a toughie, giving numbers to strangers that haven't contributed before, or just started. On the other hand, we all started somewhere, and look how much Jum Hall seems to have got on most of us already. Anyhow, that other guys info makes me think that maybe some SP's might be hanging around near the Red Barn. Never a place I would have thought of, but it is still close enough to the no-tels and dealers for the girls to maybe start considering it. Always a first time as the girls evolve.
I know Jum Hall is okay. I verified him on another board.
Wow, that is a toughie, giving numbers to strangers that haven't contributed before, or just started. On the other hand, we all started somewhere, and look how much Jum Hall seems to have got on most of us already.
I was not casting doubt on anybody on here, so I sincerely hope nobody thought I was doubting Jum Hall. He has posted quality stuff right from the beginning, and I might be going to him for a tip someday since I seem to be pumping a dry well on my own hunting! LOL :-) Anyways, I was agreeing with GR Mojo with the fact that we have to use our best judgment online as well as on the streets. PD and others act as if the social problems will be gone as soon as mongers stop looking for hook-ups. Frankly, IMHO, it is just a ploy to get money from people that will actually pay their outrageous fines and not just sit in jail and wait out a term like the SP or pimp/dealer most likely will.
PD and others act as if the social problems will be gone as soon as mongers stop looking for hook-ups. Frankly, IMHO, it is just a ploy to get money from people that will actually pay their outrageous fines and not just sit in jail and wait out a term like the SP or pimp/dealer most likely will.
I agree. Police chiefs must love all that money that rolls in. Unfortunately, law enforcement has become all about making things illegal, so that cops have job security, rather than keeping the peace. Some of the biggest crooks in GR have a badge. Creating chaos is a lucrative business.
I can't convince you here that I am legit but I have been on EV since I moved to Michigan from the Chicago area 7 years ago. My handle is Chucker. Check with Briana on EV (she goes by Briana Star
(http://www.***********.com/index.php?action=profile;u=19772)
I'm not a very active poster but I have been in the hobby for 25 years.
Reeses carryout menu was very open. All dishes could be covered or not. The dinner was .20 and the venue was .05. Took well over an hour to finish the fine meal. I didn't get digits but I gave her mine and she should be calling this week. I'll provide her digits when I get them.
I can vouch for him, because I know one of the ladies he's seen in the past. She speaks highly of him. I verified him on another board.
Packerbacker
04-21-10, 17:10
Caught with an old flame today.Jeanette and her friend Amanda took my to new heights today. A little triple play today that I won't soon forget. $.80 forthe both of them. Numbers for Vets. Lots of swapping back and forth and pussy play between them. No faking it because they damn near forgot about meeven watching. Juices went to flowing they kept going. When I finished for the 2nd time I had to call timeout for a minute and they kept at it.
Traveled down Division near 44th today after my trip to Pacific. Saw a white red head, skinny walking by the Rite Aid by 44th. Also another white , medium build around 36th and division. Didn't stop for either girl. Both on west side of street. Both girls a 5 on sw scale.
Eddie Hawkins
04-29-10, 00:24
Traveled down Division near 44th today after my trip to Pacific. Saw a white red head, skinny walking by the Rite Aid by 44th. Also another white , medium build around 36th and division. Didn't stop for either girl. Both on west side of street. Both girls a 5 on sw scale.Aw, man! Too bad you didn't stop for the red. I haven't seen a wsw on Division since I moved back to the area a couple of months ago (and none at all south of 28th), let alone a red! I would have loved to have her number. Thanks for the heads up, though. At least I know they are there now.
Too bad you didn't stop for the red. Sorry I did not stop. I just came from Pacific on 44th and was meeting someone for dinner. Just wasn't in the right mood for inquiring. If I happen to see again, I will definitely stop for info at minimum. The approximate time I saw them was around 4:45 pm. Hope this helps.
Aw, man! Too bad you didn't stop for the red. I haven't seen a wsw on Division since I moved back to the area a couple of months ago (and none at all south of 28th), let alone a red! I would have loved to have her number. Thanks for the heads up, though. At least I know they are there now.That red head sound like Lou Ann Patel she gives great bbjcim she is only a 3 with no teeth. She usually walks south of 28th on divison. Not much of a looker but if you want a great bj she'll perform. Price from 15-20.
That red head sound like Lou Ann Patel she gives great bbjcim she is only a 3 with no teeth. She usually walks south of 28th on divison. Not much of a looker but if you want a great bj she'll perform. Price from 15-20.You are prolly more accurate on the looks scale. I wasn't close enough to see the missing teeth :)
Eddie Hawkins
05-10-10, 10:34
Starting at about 1:15a, I drove north on Division from 44th to Wealthy, no sighting. Drove east on Wealthy to Eastern, then south on Eastern to 28th (because it was suggested that there may be some sightings on Eastern). Nothing. Then drove to Red Barn (because it was suggested there might be a sighting there). Still nothing. I then drove Division south to 44th again. I saw one who may have been working (pretty cold out last night, but she was walking with her coat wide open, as if advertising), but she was accompanied by a man, so I didn't even slow down. This is the third circuit in two weeks, at various times in the day and night, with no luck. Pretty dry in the Big City.
Starting at about 1:15a, I drove north on Division from 44th to Wealthy, no sighting. Drove east on Wealthy to Eastern, then south on Eastern to 28th (because it was suggested that there may be some sightings on Eastern). Nothing. Then drove to Red Barn (because it was suggested there might be a sighting there). Still nothing. I then drove Division south to 44th again. I saw one who may have been working (pretty cold out last night, but she was walking with her coat wide open, as if advertising), but she was accompanied by a man, so I didn't even slow down. This is the third circuit in two weeks, at various times in the day and night, with no luck. Pretty dry in the Big City.As I wrote in this forum earlier on, I would not have mind telling you through private message, where lisa is located and giving you the number she gave me too.
Now for the past few weeks, I have toned it down on driving through the city, since sometimes it looks as if LE was checking my automibile out, even when I let a friend drive my whip and when I drove him too.
You have contributed a lot of stuff in this forum and board, but the only thing I do ask from people who get information from me or others, is to let us know how it went, even if you take a week at most to respond, even if you are logging in everyday.
Example, I gave a member here information of myself and a lady, and he comes almost every day or week, but he has or could not even write to me on here or the other place where I told him that he can contact me, to tell me if everything is okay with the information I gave him.
So you see eddie hawkins, if people from here give you or people like you the information of the actual place and number, not all will tell you how it went even if they are coming in the board every day/week.
Anyways, the house lisa showed me is a bit like a drug house and the number she gave me, I called it once and left a message and they did not call back and I have not called the number again, especially since I turned off my hobby phone for a while, so I have not called the number for over three weeks now.
If you have enough friends or you feel comfortable, give me at least two days or no more then five days and I can use a way to get the actual address of the house, but do anyone feel comfortable going like to a drug house because of a good service, you be the judge.
If you have that kind of heart for the adventure[eddie hawkins and good members like you, who have contributed information in this board or other board], then I say come right ahead and I will give you the address and phone number.
But at least for fu*k say, let me or others know if you succeeded or not. Mind you am still a newbie on this board and need at least four more months to become a senior member if I do get up to twenty five posts too.
I really hate it when veterans come here and vouch for people like me and others, then people want to question the veteran words as if he/she would have time to waste, by verifing me and others on other board.
Am a paying member on one board and I donate occasional on the other board, so why would I have too much time for the street adventure, when I have some regulars on my local networking site, and the local board rate too of some of the big girls would not cost me more then a hundred for one hour and sometime they stay longer when I get a motel/hotel room.
So if some of you seniors are responding without giving newbie like me at least a day to respond, that is just plain disrespectful since I believe in giving a fellow monger the information he needs, as long as he has posted some informative/successful information in public here or in private to me or others.
Eddie Hawkins
05-10-10, 18:47
As I wrote in this forum earlier on, I would not have mind telling you through private message, where lisa is located and giving you the number she gave me too.
Now for the past few weeks, I have toned it down on driving through the city, since sometimes it looks as if LE was checking my automibile out, even when I let a friend drive my whip and when I drove him too.
You have contributed a lot of stuff in this forum and board, but the only thing I do ask from people who get information from me or others, is to let us know how it went, even if you take a week at most to respond, even if you are logging in everyday.
Example, I gave a member here information of myself and a lady, and he comes almost every day or week, but he has or could not even write to me on here or the other place where I told him that he can contact me, to tell me if everything is okay with the information I gave him.
So you see eddie hawkins, if people from here give you or people like you the information of the actual place and number, not all will tell you how it went even if they are coming in the board every day/week.
Anyways, the house lisa showed me is a bit like a drug house and the number she gave me, I called it once and left a message and they did not call back and I have not called the number again, especially since I turned off my hobby phone for a while, so I have not called the number for over three weeks now.
If you have enough friends or you feel comfortable, give me at least two days or no more then five days and I can use a way to get the actual address of the house, but do anyone feel comfortable going like to a drug house because of a good service, you be the judge.
If you have that kind of heart for the adventure[eddie hawkins and good members like you, who have contributed information in this board or other board], then I say come right ahead and I will give you the address and phone number.
But at least for fu*k say, let me or others know if you succeeded or not. Mind you am still a newbie on this board and need at least four more months to become a senior member if I do get up to twenty five posts too.
I really hate it when veterans come here and vouch for people like me and others, then people want to question the veteran words as if he/she would have time to waste, by verifing me and others on other board.
Am a paying member on one board and I donate occasional on the other board, so why would I have too much time for the street adventure, when I have some regulars on my local networking site, and the local board rate too of some of the big girls would not cost me more then a hundred for one hour and sometime they stay longer when I get a motel/hotel room.
So if some of you seniors are responding without giving newbie like me at least a day to respond, that is just plain disrespectful since I believe in giving a fellow monger the information he needs, as long as he has posted some informative/successful information in public here or in private to me or others.
For the record, I wasn't casting aspersions, nor was I complaining. I was just reporting on the trip. I couldn't remember who suggested the Eastern stretch or Red Barn, and I was too tired to look it up. And while I appreciate the offer of info via private message, I am not in a situation where I can make use of it, so I don't avail myself of those offers, no matter who offers. Besides, part of the fun for me is the hunt. :)
For the record, I wasn't casting aspersions, nor was I complaining. I was just reporting on the trip. I couldn't remember who suggested the Eastern stretch or Red Barn, and I was too tired to look it up. And while I appreciate the offer of info via private message, I am not in a situation where I can make use of it, so I don't avail myself of those offers, no matter who offers. Besides, part of the fun for me is the hunt..Eddie hawkins, you are okay/alright in my perspertive. But because you put eastern and red barn in a columm, and both of us was checked out by a senior member here, I felt like you where casting some doubt on me mainly and grmojo too. Which was why I had to get that off my chest with you here in the open, since you did not come to me in private. If you had come to me in private, we/I would not have even written any comment in this thread.
But I understand where you coming from, especially since you have explained it here in this post of your's.
Now, I am never comfortable giving out lisa location or number out here in the open, especially since anyone can read it and then maybe she get's in trouble with LE, her pimp or whoever else.
Even if she gave me her friend number who might not/never pick it up and also, even if she showed me a wrong house by that eastern area. For the price of what I got with her, she deserve some privacy and discretion.
On the other hand candice, rebecca and whichever else of the SW, who rips people off for there addiction, they deserve what they get by being lock in the county jail and any other bad thing that might befall them with the exclusion of death or they being maimed.
If there was enough trust worthy mongers, I would have organize to check the lisa location and to make sure she is okay and not hopefully in the county jail LOL.
For that price I miss her and which I had not gone to lansing to see my friend haha.
Anyways eddie hawkins, you all alright and I got no beef with good mongers like you, who share informative and some successful report.
Member #5546
05-20-10, 16:46
I met with Janet the other night.
However, I seem to have lost her digits.
If you have them please message me.
Supermex09
05-21-10, 16:05
Sorry guys, didn't quite know where to put this as the "other areas" section of MI seems to be inactive - want to make sure you all get this - ran into "Kay Kay" down on 6th & Summit in the Heights - a quick cop check and we were off to a secluded spot - toe curling BBBJCIM in the front seat for the bargain price of a Ham - I've noticed them out this past week!
Happy hunting!
TwistedBrother
05-22-10, 12:27
Damn, I don't eat pig so I'll have to check at the supermarket on that one ... it sounds good, though.
toe curling BBBJCIM in the front seat for the bargain price of a Ham
Member #5710
05-28-10, 07:22
So, I've been reading posts here, on and off, for awhile now but not posted anything because I had nothing to report. The simple reason is until recently (and for the past 4 years) I was without a license. Now that I have it back, I'm cruising whenever I have the opportunity. This morning was such an opportunity and from 5:30 am to 6:30 pm I cruised Division from Wealthy to 28th st and back along with side trips down Grandville Ave.
Simply put there was nothing out. A few years ago, when I still had a DL, I had no problem finding two to four girls out at that time. Laurie was consistently out in the morning and I would normally pick her up due to her oral skills. (I actually saw her a couple weeks ago with a couple other girls around mid-day. Looking pretty rough.)
In any case I was just wondering when it got so dead in the morning. Has LE cracked down that much in the last few years? I live out by the lake shore so getting into GR in the evenings is not an option. Before work is all I got.
Seems like I'm screwed.
In any case I was just wondering when it got so dead. Has LE cracked down that much in the last few years?
Seems like I'm screwed.I think LE always get around alot in the summer time from wealthy area to 28th on division street.
I saw at least three LE cruiser's in the afternoon last week and some decoy's too, which can make it hard for someone to know which ladies are really working or decoys too.
If you can post more, someone who you trust can verify you or you feel like chating through PM. I can give you a white slender lady cell phone number that works, who I picked up last week and did some BJ and FS. She has sent me some text of her room number and the motel/hotel that she is staying as of 05/28/10 evening.
I called the motel/hotel number and extension that she gave me on Friday evening and it went through then. But I have not called her cell phone and the motel/hotel number again since that Friday evening.
I will post a report of her and if you like it, then I or other's can try to verify that you are not one of those who just want to ask question's and not contribute after getting the information they receive from this board.
By the way, I personally liked your first post, since you have been here since last year, and finally decide to contribute some useful information in your first post and thanks for that from me.
In my dream, I picked up a white slender SW last week, after chating with some of my friends who stay in that rainbow motel area on division street.
I paid $. 40 for two shots, the first one was BJ and the second one, was a little BJ and then I finish up with FS.
She is probably a your mileage kind of girl, since I was shocked that she said that she doesn't have any condoms and I had to give her some condoms to keep, since I don't know if she was trying to feel me out as a sucker or whatever.
I told her that, I do cum quick the first time and that hopefully the second one wouldn't take too long either and she agreed. Now I only had twenty on me and I told her that, if she can trust me and give me two shots, then after we are done, I would take her to the atm and give her the rest twenty left, which she agreed on too.
But we where driving a bit in my van and since LE was alot around, on division street by julian club area in the afternoon time, she was almost like pleading with me to just come up with fourty, since she prefered me to come to her room, instead of her working the street to deal with LE.
So I decided to give it a try, since I have been here in grand rapids for over twelve years. When I got in the room, the first thing I did, was to check the bathroom and balcony, since I let her see me keep my wallet in my glove box with me locking it with my truck key too.
But on a side note, with the way LE and decoys are working on division street, I too might tone it down on the street, since am not making good money as before and I would hate to push my luck/limit on the street also. Since am not too much for the street hunt as I was over four years ago. I probably would soon start sticking with the chat lines number, since sometimes I do get numbers mainly from ladies who are out of grand rapids area, but some time they are willing to come see me here, since I wouldn't drive for even one hour to go see an unknown pu**y, unless if I know or trust the fellow monger written words and reports.
But for those of you, that still don't mind the street hunt, the SW are still around, but just be careful of LE and decoys too.
Left a message for Ashley Saturday night around midnight. I then saw Sol Marie walking in front of Jimmy Williams needless to say I picked her up for a FS GFE date. Just like Ashley a very tight p***y. She seemed high but was a real fun date. Around 130 Ashley called back and I set up a date for Sunday.
I have numbers for both but I don't know if Sol Marie's is good as I haven't tried it. The Ashley I am talking about Ashley Carpenter who has been in and out of jail all the time. She seems to have put on a little very need pounds and seems to be doing much better.
Left a message for Ashley Saturday night around midnight. I then saw Sol Marie walking in front of Jimmy Williams needless to say I picked her up for a FS GFE date. Just like Ashley a very tight p***y. She seemed high but was a real fun date. Around 130 Ashley called back and I set up a date for Sunday.
That is pretty good hunting to get a hold of two of the more serious hotties on the stroll. You are always a master Don!!! Please report back if Ashley completed the date on Sunday or not. I've been with Little Mami before, and she is a little mommy now too, as she had a kid last year I believe. Still can't bag the elusive Ashley Jo though!!
Member #5710
06-01-10, 10:22
Thanks Jum,
But the reality is that there wasn’t much worthwhile in my first post. I do plan on actually contributing now that I can drive myself instead of others driving me or taking the bus to and from work or wherever. How much I can contribute really depends on how much I can afford w/o a noticeable effect on other aspects of my life. My income has not gone down but it has also not risen over the past seven years either.
I do have a bit more to report regarding last Friday but I’ll be posting that in the CL forum.
Just to let you and others know, I have been having dreams similar to your dream below off and on (mostly on) for roughly the last 22 years. My favorite dream was about a white slim and fairly pretty SW named Carla (or maybe Karla). I use to have that dream frequently but it’s been 11 or 12 years since I last dreamed about her. Carla used to stroll around with another woman, Michelle and occasionally with a third woman who was called, T (if I remember correctly). Maybe someone here might remember them.
I’ve been quite fortunate that LE has only entered my dreams less than a handful of times and only once did it turn a potential dream into a potential nightmare. Fortunately that LEO was someone I knew from past military days and nothing came of it. I too don’t want to press my luck driving around. My cautiousness came back to me quickly but still, I am out of practice.
Thanks also for the report. I am interested and if you’re still willing, I’ll take the number and report on the outcome of my dream. I had numbers from a few ladies that I had saved from four years ago but only one still worked, a woman by the name of Sheila. Met up with her at her apartment around the 28th street/Chicago Drive area about a month and a half ago. As with Laurie she has let herself go and the dream was less than satisfactory. I had since thought about giving that dream another try but repeated attempts to contact have been met with voice mail and no response.
I was looking around to see if anything struck me as interesting and I encountered http://www.vipfre3311.sipsap.com. She looked to good to be true so I did an image search on the photos and came up with:
http://erooups.com/2010/03/29/smiling_sunny_cruz_in_erotic_underwear_12_pics.html.
This hottie could be real, anyone have any info on her?
Member #5710
06-04-10, 08:19
http://erooups.com/2010/03/29/smiling_sunny_cruz_in_erotic_underwear_12_pics.html.
This hottie could be real, anyone have any info on her?Is she real? Well the pictures are of a real woman but will it be the same woman if you schedule time with her? Maybe. The phone number she lists is an unpublished number in Grand Rapids so there is someone real on the other end. She has posted ads on BP and CV and eros-michigan as far back as February. The woman in the photos also goes by the name of Candice Cardinelle. Here's a link for you to look over.
http://www.wowstars.com/pornstar/sunny_cruz.html
Member #5710
06-04-10, 08:31
About 7:30 this morning I spied a slim wsw walking north on Division directly across from Pridgeon and Clay. She had blond, wavy (sort of curly) hair not quite to the middle of her back and it appeared that she could be early to mid thirties. I took a couple of passes and she gave me that look and a nod. Not bad looking but it appeared that she has an acne issue on the right side of her face. The acne is not a turn off but not knowing who she and being a bit out of practice prevented me from offering my transportation services. The specific area she was in was also a deal breaker for me. I think a half hour earlier and she may have been south of Burton, an area I am more comfortable with offering rides.
In any case does anyone recognize the description I gave? Any info on her abilities and integrity?
I was looking around to see if anything struck me as interesting and I encountered http://www.vipfre3311.sipsap.com. She looked to good to be true so I did an image search on the photos and came up with:
http://erooups.com/2010/03/29/smiling_sunny_cruz_in_erotic_underwear_12_pics.html.
This hottie could be real, anyone have any info on her?If you google her phone number, you will come up with several ads she has placed. The photos on the second site have a 2003 date on them, her current ads indicate her age as 24, you do the math. The pics are not of the escort.
Is she real? Well the pictures are of a real woman but will it be the same woman if you schedule time with her? Maybe. The phone number she lists is an unpublished number in Grand Rapids so there is someone real on the other end. She has posted ads on BP and CV and eros-michigan as far back as February. The woman in the photos also goes by the name of Candice Cardinelle. Here's a link for you to look over.
http://www.wowstars.com/pornstar/sunny_cruz.html
If you google her phone number, you will come up with several ads she has placed. The photos on the second site have a 2003 date on them, her current ads indicate her age as 24, you do the math. The pics are not of the escort.Thanks guys, was just making sure I was thinking with the correct head.
Spent time with Holly, just minutes ago. Hadn't seen her in a couple months, but she's still doable. She has gained a couple of pounds, since I last saw her. I had a good time. Digits and details are available to senior members.
Haven't been able to get in touch with Marsha for about a week, which is unusual. I hope she isn't in the pokey or something.
Haven't been able to get in touch with Marsha for about a week, which is unusual. I hope she isn't in the pokey or something.
Try again. I enjoyed some time with her on the way to the office this morning and while I overpaid a bit for the convenience of 10 min notice, the service was wonderful as always.
Try again. I enjoyed some time with her on the way to the office this morning and while I overpaid a bit for the convenience of 10 min notice, the service was wonderful as always.
She's still not returning calls. Typical hooker logic - if a guy does her a tiny favor, now, it's better than week after week of steady business, later. If ever there was proof that she's on some very hard drugs, that's it. If I don't hear from her soon, I'll have to classify her as a scammer. I guess it doesn't take long before they go bad.
She's still not returning calls. Typical hooker logic - if a guy does her a tiny favor, now, it's better than week after week of steady business, later. If ever there was proof that she's on some very hard drugs, that's it. If I don't hear from her soon, I'll have to classify her as a scammer. I guess it doesn't take long before they go bad.
Sad, but true. She's a sweet girl and we could hope shed stay straight and in business for us.
"Hooker logic" - have to remember that; its a great oxymoron.
I finally got in touch with her. The fact that I have a second phone line may have had something to do with it. ;) I had a good time!
Had a great time with her last night.
Marsha in my opion one of the most reliable SW out there. If she asks for more more $$ it's up to you to agree or not I think most all if not all the time she'll take a lesser amount.
Who is Marsha, how does one get in touch with her, or where does she hang? Is "sol marie" (the title of dongr's post) the same as "marsha"?
I'd love to find a low-priced spur of the moment bj queen in GR!
RoadWarrior615
06-09-10, 23:20
Spent time with Holly, just minutes ago. Hadn't seen her in a couple months, but she's still doable. She has gained a couple of pounds, since I last saw her. I had a good time. Digits and details are available to senior members.You mean Holly who is HIV positive?
You mean Holly who is HIV positive?
Not as far as I know. She's pretty well padded. I wasn't implying that she was too thin at one time.
Member #5710
06-11-10, 08:16
So I had a dream this morning that I gave a ride to a wsw by the name of Luann. I remember I saw her just north of 28th on Division around 7 am or so. She's an older redhead and says her nickname is Fergi. She had a slim build and about medium in looks (5-6). In my dream we chatted a bit and she mentioned that she was raising funds to get a motel room. I gladly donated .25 to the cause and we drove a couple miles and parked. She thanked my by providing some of the best oral skills I have every encountered. She gave me digits for future conversations.
Finally dreaming in the morning again. And an excellent dream it was.
So I had a dream this morning that I gave a ride to a wsw by the name of Luann. I remember I saw her just north of 28th on Division around 7 am or so. She's an older redhead and says her nickname is Fergi. She had a slim build and about medium in looks (5-6). In my dream we chatted a bit and she mentioned that she was raising funds to get a motel room. I gladly donated .25 to the cause and we drove a couple miles and parked. She thanked my by providing some of the best oral skills I have every encountered. She gave me digits for future conversations.
Finally dreaming in the morning again. And an excellent dream it was.
She does give great head. I would put her in the 4 range. Body not bad but her face is another story. One of the best for a bj.
Member #5710
06-14-10, 08:17
She does give great head. I would put her in the 4 range. Body not bad but her face is another story. One of the best for a bj.Yes, probably more like a 4. I think the quality of the BBBJ skewed my thinking a bit.
Saw Sol Marie, recently. She's a petite little thing who is in incredible shape! If you like exotic looking women, she may be what you're looking for. Digits are available to senior members.
Does anyone happen to know who her skinny blonde friend was? She might be fun, too. She has in the area, talking with Sol Marie, before and after the visit.
Does anyone happen to know who her skinny blonde friend was? She might be fun, too. She has in the area, talking with Sol Marie, before and after the visit.
That was probably Ashley Jo. I have heard, second hand, that they hang out together. Two of the hotter girls on the stroll, especially since I haven't heard of Jodie being around anymore.
That was probably Ashley Jo. I have heard, second hand, that they hang out together. Two of the hotter girls on the stroll, especially since I haven't heard of Jodie being around anymore.
It would be great to have her digits. She reminded me of a pricey girl on the west side of town who was one hell of a good time.
I saw an Ashley, over a month ago, but she was rather pizza-faced and I just didn't click with her. The one that I saw with Sol Marie was cute.
Picked up Janet just north of Hall on Division. Great GFE for 40. She was in jail for check fraud she did 7 months. She said it was well worth it as she made around $50000. She paid rent on an apartment in advance for a year with some of the money. Cute face heavier than what she was before. Aims to please.
Picked up Kelly last night on Grandville between Franklin and Hall. Her hot little butt attracted me but when I got up close she shows her age. She says she is 41. Lackluster performance. 80 for 50/50. Everything covered which I usually don't like but in this case it was fine with me. 4 on looks, 3 on performance and that's being generous.
Picked up Kelly last night on Grandville between Franklin and Hall. Her hot little butt attracted me but when I got up close she shows her age. She says she is 41. Lackluster performance. 80 for 50/50. Everything covered which I usually don't like but in this case it was fine with me. 4 on looks, 3 on performance and that's being generous.
I hate to even say this, but 80 is where you were being a little too generous. I've only ever paid that if there was a hot 18 year old body attached or if I knew the girl and she had a spot that was saving me from getting a room. Never take the first offer unless you just do not want to risk losing your catch, i.e. 18 year old hottie with 3 cars circling or she has something that calls out to you as being special.
Member #5710
06-24-10, 12:51
About 7:15 am driving south on Division from Burton I saw two bsw walking south by Alger. They had their "manager" with them but I really wasn't interested anyway. One was short and squat and the other was tall and thin with some dreadlock type hair. The tall one had an odd look. Could have been a TV.
Just before 28th street walking north from the gas station was a very nice looking wsw. Looked to be early to mid thirties (maybe late 20's). Pretty face. Dark blond or brown straight hair just past her shoulders. Not fat but not slim either. Nice rack, flat stomach but the butt and hips were slightly wide (sort of out of proportion to the rest of her.
She looked good enough that I initially thought she might work at one of the supply places right there on the west side of the street but when I came back around she was on the other side of the street still walking north. I went past Alger and came back for one more look. She was back heading south. I think maybe because the other group I mentioned was getting close to her.
Anyway, I would have given her a try but I have a new bank card and the PIN hasn't arrived in the mail yet.
Based on my description can anyone tell me anything about her? Name? Performance, etc.?
Member #5710
06-24-10, 15:36
I hate to even say this, but 80 is where you were being a little too generous. I've only ever paid that if there was a hot 18 year old body attached or if I knew the girl and she had a spot that was saving me from getting a room. Never take the first offer unless you just do not want to risk losing your catch, i.e. 18 year old hottie with 3 cars circling or she has something that calls out to you as being special.I have to say that 80 is high for a sw. Might as well spend an extra 20 to 60 for some time with a lady from BP or Sipsap.
Member #5710
06-25-10, 08:33
Cruised Division from 7 am to 7:30 am. Quite a few sw out and about. Two blocks south of Hall I saw a bsw. Nice looking, slim with nice curves. Had straight reddish blond hair. She had sunglasses on so I had to go around a couple times to check out the face. Kinda looked like a TV that I had seen out years ago but I think that this one is a woman.
Two blocks south of Burton street I spied the same two bsw as yesterday plus another short plump black woman. (The slim one is definitely a dude). On the opposite side was a dumpy looking, middle age and fat wsw who was in the process of acquiring transportation.
Further down division one block north of Alger there was another lady. This one I remember from years ago. I can't remember her name but as I recall she is Native American possibly with a Hispanic mix. Long jet black hair, nice figure and a birth mark of sorts on her right cheek. I used to dream about her quite frequently 15 or so years ago and occasionally 5 or 6 years ago. I remember that more recently she lived in Zeeland (maybe still does) and visited her there a couple of times. She's not bad but ymmv. Kind of depends on her mood. She definitely remembered me. I do remember a dream about a threesome that was a lot of fun.
She had a look of recognition on her face the second time I passed and was motioning for me to stop on the next two passes. On the last pass she was walking with a decent looking Hispanic girl. She threw up her hands like she was saying WTF but the words coming from her mouth clearly read stop you know me.
While I have access to funds now, there was really nothing out and about this morning that grabbed my interest. Well the Native America lady did some but not enough. What the hell is her name? I suppose it will come to me in time.
Further down division one block north of Alger there was another lady. This one I remember from years ago. I can't remember her name but as I recall she is Native American possibly with a Hispanic mix. Long jet black hair, nice figure and a birth mark of sorts on her right cheek. I used to dream about her quite frequently 15 or so years ago and occasionally 5 or 6 years ago. I remember that more recently she lived in Zeeland (maybe still does) and visited her there a couple of times. She's not bad but ymmv. Kind of depends on her mood. She definitely remembered me. I do remember a dream about a threesome that was a lot of fun.
I know the woman you speak of. I think she is late 40's now, thin and had a great body just 3 or 4 years ago when I was seeing her. She no longer lives in Zeeland, but it was quite a great time when she used to live there and saved me from going all the way to GR from the lakeshore area. Sylvia if my memory serves.
Member #5710
06-26-10, 17:43
Yes I remember now.
Thank you very much. She still looks good.
Hard to contact her by phone. She goes by Nadia. Sometimes full mailbox, other times I left message with no return call. Today, we managed to connect to set up a time at noon. She sent me pic by phone and told me to call when in parking lot.
Spent some time with this provider today from BP. Spent 1. 25 banannas for 1/2 hour. She had great personality, looks older than her posted 22 years old. Very petite which I like. We start with back massage which sucked, LOL. On the flip, she went total birthday suit on me. Kissing was allowed, no tounge tho. She seemed to have an issue with any body fluids. FS was not on the menu, not even DATY or BJ. Fingers were allowed full freedoms and she had an easy time to orgasm. She finished me HJ style and I left soon after. She wasn't a clock watcher, easy to get along with but, for me. No return visit. YMMD.
Further details for seniors.
Happy Hunting
Member #5710
06-30-10, 09:00
Spent 1. 25 banannas for 1/2 hour. FS was not on the menu, not even DATY or BJ. Fingers were allowed full freedoms and she had an easy time to orgasm. She finished me HJ style and I left soon after.
Further details for seniors.
Happy HuntingA buck twenty five for 1/2 hour and all you really got was a hand job. Are there really any more details that need to be shared?
A buck twenty five for 1/2 hour and all you really got was a hand job. Are there really any more details that need to be shared?Nope, that's about all. She wanted me to pay in advance, so I thought I'd TOFTT. Like I said, I would not repeat.
Member #5710
07-01-10, 09:19
Nope, that's about all. She wanted me to pay in advance, so I thought I'd TOFTT. Like I said, I would not repeat.Your a better man than I gunga din.
Member #5710
07-07-10, 08:39
I had a dream this morning that I picked up Joy on Division just south of 36th St. Probably the same Joy that dongr dreamed about a little over a year ago. Similar description; mid thirties, pretty face but not so slim anymore (the upper half is slim but she has apparently gained weight in the butt and thighs). The digits she gave me indicate she is from the Kzoo/Portage area.
Any way, I dreamed I donated 0.3 to her personal fund and she thanked me by giving me a BBBJ. On a scale of 1-10 it was about a 7 and while she caught it she promptly spit it out. That doesn't necessarily bother me but it does detract some from the moment. Her skills were more mechanical than sensuous (unlike Luann) but the release was still intense.
She has an apartment just south of 36th and east of Division. I found this out after the fact as I dropped her off there. I may dream about her again sometime to determine the quality of the rest of her skills.
Digits for senior member, if they want them. She says she lost her phone but it is still active with voice mail. Leave name and number and she will call back.
It was probably the sme Joy that I've dated before. She got out KC Jail a couple of weeks ago. I am 60 years old and have gotten a lot of bj's and Luann is in the top 10 of all times for sure. You can see what they both look like if you do a search for Bradley(Joy) and Patel(Luanne). Joy is pretty good looking and must have put on a few pounds while being locked up.
Member #5710
07-08-10, 10:50
Yup, that's them. Joy did mention that she just got out of jail for "stupid shit". If I see here again, it will be at her place after a phone call. Haven't seen Luann since my last post about her but then again my cruising time is limited due to living out by the big lake.
A couple weeks ago, or a month, I pulled into the Cini-Mini II parking lot JUST as a slender guy and SMOKIN HOT slender chick with short black hair and maybe a little "asian" look in the eyes was LEAVING.
Now my few visits to this place leads me to realize the actual "store" is pretty lacking in anything other than the quick porn dvd to take home and rub one out by. Altho the THEATER side might hold something more. For the LADIES? Do women show up to this place? And I don't mean the old guy with short blonde hair who wears a dress and pads his tits. I am wondering if real pussy goes here and how they spend their time?
Anyone have experiences with the ladies here?
Went to Rainbow last night. Haven't been there for a long time. Now I know why. Unfortunately the little head was thinking for me. I don't know why I expected something different but this place hasn't changed in 20 years. Below average AMP experience with a lackluster performance on the flip side. I didn't even pop because I was thinking about how many finer places or ladies I could have visited. Pretty depressing.
Had a great time with Joy yesterday. Too bad the streets are showing with her but still an much above average gfe. She said sol marie was back in kcj. Looked her up with last name of castro-sanchez and see that she has a 50000 bond and was arrested as a material witness with authorized detention.
I am thinking she was a witness to a serious crime and was trying to avoid testifing(sp?). On a brighter note Ashley Joe should be out on Sunday. When I took Joy back to her apt I seen another young and slim girl on the steps. I will have to try to find out more about her and give a little bit of loving. BTW Joy is staying at the same place as Ashley Joe and Sol Marie which is only a couple of miles from where I live. Lucky me!!!and unlucky for my billfold lol.
Had a great time with Joy yesterday. Too bad the streets are showing with her but still an much above average gfe. She said sol marie was back in kcj. Looked her up with last name of castro-sanchez and see that she has a 50000 bond and was arrested as a material witness with authorized detention.
I am thinking she was a witness to a serious crime and was trying to avoid testifing(sp?). On a brighter note Ashley Joe should be out on Sunday. When I took Joy back to her apt I seen another young and slim girl on the steps. I will have to try to find out more about her and give a little bit of loving. BTW Joy is staying at the same place as Ashley Joe and Sol Marie which is only a couple of miles from where I live. Lucky me!!!and unlucky for my billfold lol.
Too bad that I don't know the last name, or else I'd get confirmation on Ashley Jo's release date. I wonder if Solmarie's pimp did something - at least, I assume the guy was her pimp. A big guy was hanging out near the room where Solmarie was staying, when I saw her. A guy answered her phone, too.
Too bad that I don't know the last name, or else I'd get confirmation on Ashley Jo's release date. I wonder if Solmarie's pimp did something - at least, I assume the guy was her pimp. A big guy was hanging out near the room where Solmarie was staying, when I saw her. A guy answered her phone, too.Her last name is carpenter and if this girls/SW are good. Some of you senior members,if you know the actual date that she is coming out,i don't think it is good to post it here in the open.
By the way,it says she has been released since 07/06/10.
The number lisa gave me was picked up by another lady, she said that she doesn't know lisa, so I guess the number is no good.
Her picture was posted on 04-18-80 and I believe the number on here is #220.
I picked her up last time at franklin street by the eastside area, hopefully if any monger see her. He will/can post an update on here in the open area or can send me her digit, if he wish and I can trade other digits with him too.
Too bad that I don't know the last name, or else I'd get confirmation on Ashley Jo's release date. I wonder if Solmarie's pimp did something. At least, I assume the guy was her pimp. A big guy was hanging out near the room where Solmarie was staying, when I saw her. A guy answered her phone, too.You guys are right, it is Sunday. I taught the deposition date was the release date, after I checked again throughly step by step, Sunday is her release date.
So I apolize for putting the wrong date, hopefully when she gets out. Her pimp and LE, don't take her back again, since they[LE]love to target the ones that are easy for them.
Now before anyone comes out or feels like starting any stupid or whatever stuff, which I don't have too much time for. I value and respect what the LE and the forces do, but I guess they would not let folks do this kind of stuff on the downlow, because of some hypocrite politicians/religous folk, who is doing there own deed in secret.
Well, since we are doing a KCJ roll call, Jodi is in again. She looks very pretty in her mug (Moore), but she has some scabbing so she must have been partying hard while she was on the absconder list. Has a Friday release date, but she will be held longer than that because of her holder. That Joy girl looks like a very nice piece by the way. The asian girl (Lesky) has a Saturday release, but has pretrial status for possession so who knows if they resolve that by then. She is not in for strolling, but has been before.
I just did my KCJ check and Solmarie is out of lockup. Happy hunting all!
Hooked up with Holly two nights ago. Same good service as before. She's looking good. I haven't heard from Marsha in quite awhile. Anyone been in contact with her?? Seen Sol Marie same day she got out of KCJ and have to admit she can be addicting with her tight perfect body. Ashley Jo is suppose to out tomorrow.
I haven't heard from Marsha in quite awhile. Anyone been in contact with her?? Seen Sol Marie same day she got out of KCJ and have to admit she can be addicting with her tight perfect body.
I used to hear from Marsha at least once a week. Now I hear nothing.
I'd see Sol Marie again if she didn't have such a huge bush. I like a woman to be shaved, or at least trimmed. She seemed to direct things and a guy my age knows what things turn him on. Things were a tad rushed, too. She does have outstanding looks, though.
I managed to get out last night and do a nice long run around the stroll. I was out at about 8:30 at first and saw a couple of WSW around. One sitting on the stoop in front of that old tattoo shop, and one sitting in front of the store on the corner of the block Julian's is on. She was a real cutie too, but looked TGTBT and was not moving from the corner so I kept cruising. On the return trip, I saw her getting in a monger vehicle and leave the area. Unfortunately, when I saw her on the corner again she was in the back of a police cruiser. Very cute, looked like a 5 foot 100 pound spinner type. Anyways, the gist of it was that there were some girls on the block again, LEO presence was pretty standard. I am gonna try to do some Ashley hunting again later this week.
I managed to get out last night and do a nice long run around the stroll. I was out at about 8:30 at first and saw a couple of WSW around. One sitting on the stoop in front of that old tattoo shop, and one sitting in front of the store on the corner of the block Julian's is on. She was a real cutie too, but looked TGTBT and was not moving from the corner so I kept cruising. On the return trip, I saw her getting in a monger vehicle and leave the area. Unfortunately, when I saw her on the corner again she was in the back of a police cruiser. Very cute, looked like a 5 foot 100 pound spinner type. Anyways, the gist of it was that there were some girls on the block again, LEO presence was pretty standard. I am gonna try to do some Ashley hunting again later this week.I went out tonight and did a few runs as well. I picked up this cute spinner that looks like 5 foot and 100 lbs. I did not hear what her name was. Same place however she was over priced! She wanted 80 but agreed on 40 but only got jh! Will not repeat unless I hear better news from others.
Has anyone seen this SW? And what name she runs under? Currently she is in jail and not getting out until Aug 20th. Any details anyone about cost and where she hangs out?
I pulled into the Little Red Barn Theatre off 28th St this evening and went inside the strip club. I asked the bartender chick, who said there was a $7. 50 charge at the door. WHAT?!. The inside of this place is laughable and I saw no chicks around anywhere. Anyway I went in there to ask about the "Theatre" portion of this place. Where are the video booths? Does this place have them? The sign outside says Open 24hrs Adult Video Theatre. Did I walk in the wrong building?!
TwistedBrother
07-21-10, 08:20
The Red Barn appears to be a shadow of its former self ... and maybe some of you can describe exactly what that former self was? ;)
I pulled into the Little Red Barn Theatre off 28th St this evening and went inside the strip club. I asked the bartender chick, who said there was a $7. 50 charge at the door. WHAT?!. The inside of this place is laughable and I saw no chicks around anywhere. Anyway I went in there to ask about the "Theatre" portion of this place. Where are the video booths? Does this place have them? The sign outside says Open 24hrs Adult Video Theatre. Did I walk in the wrong building?!
SimonPieMan
07-21-10, 10:00
The Red Barn appears to be a shadow of its former self ... and maybe some of you can describe exactly what that former self was? ;)
TB, You are soooo correct. PM me for details of my experineces if interested. SP
Member #3987
07-22-10, 03:32
I used to hear from Marsha at least once a week. Now I hear nothing.
I'd see Sol Marie again if she didn't have such a huge bush. I like a woman to be shaved, or at least trimmed. She seemed to direct things and a guy my age knows what things turn him on. Things were a tad rushed, too. She does have outstanding looks, though.I agree about Sol Marie. Hot, but wants to take charge. But, Damn, HOT.
Met a new sw around Franklin and Division. Young 20 year old thin. Seemed like a very nice girl. Below average bbbj but a very good f***. Tight. Likes to kiss but has ashma so can"t kiss for a long time. Will repeat for the f*** w/o the bj. Cost 40.
Been trying to get ahold of Marsha w/o any success. I hope she's alright.
Has anyone heard of a Spanish girl(I believe) named New York?
Member #5710
07-29-10, 14:42
Met a new SW around Franklin and Division. Young 20 year old thin. Seemed like a very nice girl. Below average BBBJ but a very good f***. Tight. Likes to kiss but has ashma so can"t kiss for a long time. Will repeat for the f*** w/o the BJ. Cost 40.
Been trying to get ahold of Marsha w/o any success. I hope she's alright.
Has anyone heard of a Spanish girl(I believe) named New York?She sounds like fun, when did you see her? I'm only able to cruise in the mornings and then only during the work week. Generally from 6 to 8 am and Franklin is as far north as I go. Hopefully, I'll see her some morning.
Any more on the description short/long hair? Blonde/Brunette, etc?
On a side note, I cruised a bit yesterday morning and this morning. Not much to be found yesterday but heavy LE presence on Division between Burton and 28th. This morning only one SW out. Heavyset, looks latino. Could be pretty but her makeup made her look a bit scary. I passed.
Member #5710
07-30-10, 09:25
So I'm cruising Division this morning and wasn't seeing anything. I decided to stay out a bit longer and show up for work late (I can do that from time to time). So just before 8 am I spy a short, blond with large breasts and a few extra pounds. Overall she look pretty decent. She was slightly south of the lock shop and heading south on Burton.
I went up and down the street a couple of times and sure enough she's giving me a smile and a nod. I went around a couple more times because I wasn't feeling quite comfortable. My gut was telling me that I should just go to work. By this time she is almost to Withey St. just north of Alger so I pulled up and parked on Whithey by Horton (Little head was overriding the big head at this point).
So she saw me and was walking toward me when a white car turned onto Whithey and into the alley. She climbed in with him instead and they headed down the alley toward Melville. From seemingly out of nowhere LE turned off Division and into the alley and followed them. He stopped them in the party store parking lot at Melville and Division.
I cruised up and down a couple more times and saw an older blond lady walking north on Division. She looked to be in her 50s or maybe early 60s. I've seen her out before and she is obviously a sw. She looks good driving by but butt ugly close up.
Any way, my last cruise north on Division I saw two more LE vehicles. Driver of the white car and the blond were outside of his car and it appeared that both were being arrested.
I have been in that situation three or four times back in the day (early and mid '90s) but the cop always let me go (sometimes with the girl, if I knew enough personal info about her). I have heard that LE stepped up their enforcement regarding these business transactions.
I am sorry for the other dude but at the same time I am happy that he showed up. This has reminded me the importance of listening to that voice inside me when it says no.
I got the contact info for this woman off of another site. She was very easy to schedule with and provided a nice GFE. I was satisfied in no time. She has a tight bod and the prettiest pussy you could hope for. I'll definitely be back, considering that she offered GFE MSOG for an hour for $. More info available to senior members.
Member #3987
07-31-10, 00:32
Saw Sol Marie again tonight. Only saw her once before, last winter. Wasn't totally sure it was her at first, looked a little thinner than I remembered. Breasts are still super fantastic, though.
Started @ 44th and Division, heading north, and bam! there she was walking north at Janet. Love it when it is that quick for a hit. Pulled around the corner and killed the lights (BTW, Jose's Restaurant next block north has better fajitas than Beltline Bar, imo. Also cheaper, and they are open very late on weekends if you get hungry cruising).
Another monger made the corner right behind me, and pulled behind the building across the street. Mami jumped in, and as I am pulling off, monger's lights come on, and he follows. Now I'm nervous, thinking LE. She says no, he's been trying to pick her up, he's a Mexican. Now I'm pretty sure there are Mexican LE who know how to mimic monger behavior, so I am still uneasy, as he follows through several turns. Finally beat him thru the light at 44th and Division, and he turned and went the other way. I have been on the other end of that stick, and though it is frustrating, I never follow. Seems like asking for trouble.
I know a safe place to park, I offer 40 half and half. She says it's 100, so I go for BBBJ, which I remembered from before she is not that good at. She may be realizing that, because halfway through she asks me to move her head (one hand only though). I get into it a little and she let me rub myself over her beautiful face, which I like a lot. I'm getting hotter, and although I hate doing this, especially if I already started at 40, I offer another 20 to find out how tight she is (only had BJ before), which turns out to be VERY tight!
So 60 all together, which is high for sw, but still worth it for one of the hottest girls I have been with, either sw, escort or personal friend. And even though I know I shouldn't, I am probably gonna save up and have her for a night. That sweet, tight little body needs more appreciation than I can give in 25 minutes in the car.
After dropping her, I cruise a little just to check things out. Heavy LE north of 28th, which is why I like to stay south. Made about 3 passes, didn't see anything else at all.
Used to have a number for Sol Marie, which she never answered and I lost it. She says she doesn't have a phone anymore, but gave me digits for a "friend" (male of course) who she swears isn't her boyfriend or anything. I don't care who he is as long as he can reliably hook me up with her, and since most girls lose their phones this may be a better bet anyway. It is not her supplier, since she called her supplier from my phone (blocked, I made sure) and it is not the same number.
Anyway, I know I am new here, but if any Seniors want the digits, PM me.
Member #5710
08-03-10, 10:59
Out cruising this morning at about 7 am. Saw the same old blond lady as the other day. Almost provided her with transportation but can't get past what she looks like close up. (Anyone have any experience with this one? If she gives an awesome BBBJ, I may reconsider)
Any way, as I was about to give in to the little head with the aforementioned lady, I saw Joy walking north on Division just south of Alger. I came back around and picked her up. We went to the spot I like to go and went for GFE for 50 bananas. The BBBJ was much better this time (that's all I got last time) and the FS was really nice. Plenty tight and she seemed to get into it after a bit as things got pretty slippery. Overall pretty decent for a car date.
On that last subject, she apparently isn't living in the same apartment complex as she was when I last reported on her. Probably a good thing because according to her dealers are quite prevalent in the evening and apparently do their business in the open. She didn't tell me where she was staying but she did say she wanted to get a room and would I be so kind as to get one for her. Ummm....sorry, no. I don't think she's living on the street because she was showered and had fresh makeup on.
Joy has also lost weight from the last time I saw her. I don't think she's on anything (but then who knows) because she wasn't in a rush to get things done and in no particular hurry to get somewhere afterward. I think it's more the walking and inconsistent diet. As I was bringing her back she was dropping names of this guy she knew and that guy and "he's gonna take me to his cottage for the day", etc. It's a bit annoying and really, if she knows some of the guys she mentioned, why isn't she in a better spot? I left it alone.
For those who have her number, she says she has had trouble with her voice mail but to keep calling her and eventually she will get the messages. For seniors who who want it, hit me up.
Member #5710
08-05-10, 15:19
Had a bit of morning delight with Ashley this morning. Not a bad looking young blond but she doesn't appear to be too swift. A little BBBJ action for 0.30 but no CIM. Skills are pretty good.
The bad part was after I dropped her off (a little after 8 am) I spied a very nice looking middle aged blond on the northwest corner of Burton and Division. Looking hot in a shorter jean skirt, white top and sunglasses. She was getting ready to cross Burton and head south. I would have gone around a time or two to see if she was a sw but I was already late for work on a day where I didn't need to be late.
Maybe she'll be out again tomorrow. Tomorrow I can be late for work.
Gents,
We play a high stakes game every time we pick up a girl off the street, or meet one from CL, BP or elsewhere. Every time we do something without protection - which we all love to do at times - we raise the risk level.
I have been confirmed with Gonorrhea and Chlamydia due to bareback oral sex. Antibiotics, a few days; all's well. No big deal in and of itself.
What IS a big deal is the lovely girlfriend I'm waiting to return from a trip so I can tell her and get her treated. If I'm lucky she won't leave me forever.
We all have many and differimg reasons for what we do. I can't moralize. I will simply challenge each of you to question thosw reasons and see if they are worth the risks.
In my case, they're not. I'm retiring, so to speak. I'll buy a fleshlight if I can't get it where there's love.
If you keep playing the game; at least stick with protection for everything. Value yourself and those you care for that much.
Peace out
TwistedBrother
08-06-10, 07:38
Sorry to hear of your misfortune, man. Your note is very relevant to me as I'm struggling with my hobby vs. my girlfriend. Hang in there and PM if you want/need support.
Gents,
We play a high stakes game every time we pick up a girl off the street, or meet one from CL, BP or elsewhere. Every time we do something without protection - which we all love to do at times - we raise the risk level.
I have been confirmed with Gonorrhea and Chlamydia due to bareback oral sex. Antibiotics, a few days; all's well. No big deal in and of itself.
What IS a big deal is the lovely girlfriend I'm waiting to return from a trip so I can tell her and get her treated. If I'm lucky she won't leave me forever.
We all have many and differimg reasons for what we do. I can't moralize. I will simply challenge each of you to question thosw reasons and see if they are worth the risks.
In my case, they're not. I'm retiring, so to speak. I'll buy a fleshlight if I can't get it where there's love.
If you keep playing the game; at least stick with protection for everything. Value yourself and those you care for that much.
Peace out
Wow, very pertinent and brave to share. This has been in the back of my mind ever since I started reading this board. I am interested in the sw experience, but have not tried it because of this very fact. I LOVE blowjobs. I have had the easily cured std back in the day when it was all about racking up the numbers and moving on to the next aquisition. I was extremely lucky never to pick up anything permanent. Right now in my life I value the health aspect more and more and turn to manual release to ease the tension over the risky alternative.
AV, I think you're making the right choice. I don't know you, we never chatted before...but I respect your reality you described. You have so much more to lose now for something so meaningless with little substance and fulfillment. In the back of my mind I suspect most of us reading this board regularly really have more to lose than we admit to ourselves when the urge and drive becomes powerful.
Little head is starting to wise up! I think I will follow your direction and do the right thing myself.
Gents,
We play a high stakes game every time we pick up a girl off the street, or meet one from CL, BP or elsewhere. Every time we do something without protection - which we all love to do at times - we raise the risk level.
I have been confirmed with Gonorrhea and Chlamydia due to bareback oral sex. Antibiotics, a few days; all's well. No big deal in and of itself.
What IS a big deal is the lovely girlfriend I'm waiting to return from a trip so I can tell her and get her treated. If I'm lucky she won't leave me forever.
We all have many and differimg reasons for what we do. I can't moralize. I will simply challenge each of you to question thosw reasons and see if they are worth the risks.
In my case, they're not. I'm retiring, so to speak. I'll buy a fleshlight if I can't get it where there's love.
If you keep playing the game; at least stick with protection for everything. Value yourself and those you care for that much.
Peace out
This is one reason why a CBJ is important as well as being very careful of who you see. Picking any SW may easily result in an STD.
Having said that, I have to agree....the question always remains...is the pleasure worth the possible pain?
And if you have a partner, then you need to consider that your actions also impact that partner.
Personally, I rarely do anything in the so called hobby. And I have leaned that covering up at all times is best, While statistically, it is difficult to catch an STD (as I have been told on different forums) from oral sex, if I (or you) is the one who gets that STD, then it will change our world.
The sections here that review SWs, CL ads and even AMPs encourage the most risky segments of this "hobby." The safest segment of this hobby (if safe is really the best word to use) would be the escorts who are independents and whose "menu options" show her to be careful and safe. If the lady allows risky activities, then she has a greater chance of passing something to me or you. If she gives me a BBJ, then she has given the men before me that same bbbj. The safest ladies assume every man has an STD. Yet even there, they can only claim to be disease free from their last doctor appointment (assuming they see a doctor for checkups).
Ignoring the aspect of seeing SPs, SWs, etc. while in a good relationship, each and everyone of us puts his health at risk whenever we let the idea that more pleasure is gained from risky activities. To me the best memories are those where I know that without a doubt, I played completely safe and have no risk (or extremely little risk) of catching something.
My biggest issue to wrestle with is....is the "hobby" really that pleasurable when I look back at the time I spent with some lady? Is most of the pleasure in the preparation, anticipation and "hunt" for that perfect session? Are most sessions actually a disappointment when they are over? Do I seek out a new session simply to cover up the disappointment of the last one and hope that this one will be a great one? And when I do have a great one, do I actually feel worse knowing that the "great one" is now history and I need to seek out another session once again hoping for a great one?
Above all, have I really considered the impact that this hobby would have on my life if it were discovered by those who I allegedly love? Has any session been so pleasurable that losing my family and reputation is second to it?
I think we all would answer similarly, but when we get overwhelmed by that inner lust and desire, we tend to forget anything but getting that release.
Stop and think.
I had some business in Big Rapids, this weekend, so I contacted someone who I used to see regularly, who had just moved north of there. Lauriedollz just registered on here. She's had some less than stellar experiences with a number of the guys in that area, so she's looking at enticing some to come up from GR. GR guys tend to show women much more respect.
I had a great time with her and I think you will too. She lives in the boonies, but it's not far from 131 and it's easy to find - just minutes north of Big Rapids. Digits are available to senior members.
Hey mojo.
I wasn't she about $100 for the full monty?
Hey mojo.
I wasn't she about $100 for the full monty?
Since I drove to her, and I've known her for years, she gave me quite a deal for a half hour. But, she only gives deals to regulars. I can't speak for her, but $100 would be quite a bargain.
Since I drove to her, and I've known her for years, she gave me quite a deal for a half hour. But, she only gives deals to regulars. I can't speak for her, but $100 would be quite a bargain.O. K. Can you share any more details. Sounds like a guy would have to drive from GR to Big Rapids to meet up with her, and the cost would be considerably higher than $100? Doesn't sound like a bargain. But if one were in the area anyway, and had a couple of hundred to spend?
AKA Autumn as I recall from my dream years ago?
red head, skinny (was back then anyway), had hot outfits she'd wear by request.
She had in-call in an area less known for such things.
If that's her I'd recommend her. She was very "clean" at least then and pretty hot looking. Decent service - no hassles no BS. Just done and out.
I will say though I did not pay over $ /hr. But that was 5-6 years ago or so.
At least that's how my dream went.
I had some business in Big Rapids, this weekend, so I contacted someone who I used to see regularly, who had just moved north of there. Lauriedollz just registered on here. She's had some less than stellar experiences with a number of the guys in that area, so she's looking at enticing some to come up from GR. GR guys tend to show women much more respect.
I had a great time with her and I think you will too. She lives in the boonies, but it's not far from 131 and it's easy to find - just minutes north of Big Rapids. Digits are available to senior members.
AKA Autumn as I recall from my dream years ago?
red head, skinny (was back then anyway), had hot outfits she'd wear by request.
She had in-call in an area less known for such things.
If that's her I'd recommend her. She was very "clean" at least then and pretty hot looking. Decent service - no hassles no BS. Just done and out.
I will say though I did not pay over $ /hr. But that was 5-6 years ago or so.
At least that's how my dream went.
That's her. She has a little more weight on her, maybe 10 pounds, but she's still a fun appointment. I can't comment on rate, since that varies, depending on the client.
Member #5710
08-13-10, 08:16
The last couple days there's been quite a bit of morning LE activity on Division between Burton and 28th. Looked like a couple of wsw may have been busted yesterday morning. The were in the back of a cop car with about 5 more cop cars parked all around.
This morning mainly bsw and hsw out and about with one of GR's finest hassling them but not busting them. He was also hanging out very visible to traffic, obviously trying to derail their business opportunities.
I went just south of 28th and spied a wsw walking south as if she had just come from Walgreens. Brunette, good size rack, a little heavy but carried well. I went back around to offer my transportation services but she was already getting transportation from another. Came back to the area about 20 minutes later and cruised around for awhile but it seemed clear she was not coming back, at least not before I had to go to work. Too bad too. When I came around to give her a lift, I saw just how cute she was. Maybe I'll see her again sometime.
Sounds like it may have been Rebecca you seen. If so, great GFE. Have number for seniors that contribute.
The last couple days there's been quite a bit of morning LE activity on Division between Burton and 28th. Looked like a couple of wsw may have been busted yesterday morning. The were in the back of a cop car with about 5 more cop cars parked all around.
This morning mainly bsw and hsw out and about with one of GR's finest hassling them but not busting them. He was also hanging out very visible to traffic, obviously trying to derail their business opportunities.
I went just south of 28th and spied a wsw walking south as if she had just come from Walgreens. Brunette, good size rack, a little heavy but carried well. I went back around to offer my transportation services but she was already getting transportation from another. Came back to the area about 20 minutes later and cruised around for awhile but it seemed clear she was not coming back, at least not before I had to go to work. Too bad too. When I came around to give her a lift, I saw just how cute she was. Maybe I'll see her again sometime.
Member #3987
08-13-10, 22:53
About a week ago, saw wsw in white shorts standing in front of the liquor store on 28th at Division. She was ignoring traffic, so I wasn't quite sure of her intentions. But as I pulled in the lot, she looked over and came directly to my vehicle. Very pretty face, long dark curly hair, sexy hazel eyes, decent body. Never saw her naked, she may have a little weight/flabbiness around thighs, and for the cop check it seemed her breasts may not be too firm for the twenty-something age she gave. But overall would say a 8-9, and probably used to be a 10. Gave her name as Holly.
I wasn't out looking, just passing through with limited time. So 30 for bbbj, which was decent because of her looks, but not too great for technique. What made it quite a bit more enjoyable was the fact that she raised no objection to my hand wandering under her shorts and into her hole. She was quite wet, and gave vocal appreciation when I really went to town on her.
I never can come to a conclusion with just a bj, so after a while I let her sit up while I played. She immediately began playing with her pussy, so it was kinda nice that she was into it a little bit, especially because she was so hot.
Got her number before we parted ways. She didn't have a phone at the time but said she always kept the same number. PM me if you are a regular contributor and want it. Gonna save up my dollars and get her naked in a room, seems well worth it.
About a week ago, saw wsw in white shorts standing in front of the liquor store on 28th at Division. She was ignoring traffic, so I wasn't quite sure of her intentions. But as I pulled in the lot, she looked over and came directly to my vehicle. Very pretty face, long dark curly hair, sexy hazel eyes, decent body. Never saw her naked, she may have a little weight/flabbiness around thighs, and for the cop check it seemed her breasts may not be too firm for the twenty-something age she gave. But overall would say a 8-9, and probably used to be a 10. Gave her name as Holly.
I wasn't out looking, just passing through with limited time. So 30 for bbbj, which was decent because of her looks, but not too great for technique. What made it quite a bit more enjoyable was the fact that she raised no objection to my hand wandering under her shorts and into her hole. She was quite wet, and gave vocal appreciation when I really went to town on her.
I never can come to a conclusion with just a bj, so after a while I let her sit up while I played. She immediately began playing with her pussy, so it was kinda nice that she was into it a little bit, especially because she was so hot.
Got her number before we parted ways. She didn't have a phone at the time but said she always kept the same number. PM me if you are a regular contributor and want it. Gonna save up my dollars and get her naked in a room, seems well worth it.Nice report loner 59. Hopefully she wil be relax in a motel/hotel room or a good environment and she doesn't mind price bartering with a monger / individual, since I personally prefer MSOG, BBBJ/CBJ and CFS, especially when I get a room from the hotel/motel or my friends house.
Since from wealthy street to 54 street on division, is very hot with LE. I have found a way I believe, to out smart the LE in grand rapids michigan and would share the information in a discreetful way in my next post/report.
from my personal experience for over six years plus and recently again, the chat lines is where you can meet some very low cost sw/providers too.
some of the problem with the 616 area code chatline is that, you must at least have a camera phone, be very careful of guys pretending to be ladies, since they have a ladies voice, be very careful of **** girls and you would have to use the advise on how not to get ripoff by sw/providers, that has been written in the newbie forums on this board.
normally, you get free 60 minutes for each chat line number and if you decide to become a full member, your first purchase price with your membership number and password, you get half price off on any membership package that you purchase.
i am sharing just this brief information here, because of the way that, i have been seeing le and decoys too alot in the summer time and when the weather is not too cold too.
i hate to see a monger who contribute successful and informative report/post, to get in trouble with le or for the monger, to think that there are no other way to pick up sw.
the only thing i ask from anyone who i give or who get the numbers from any other monger/person is that, we share information discreetfully in the open board here and in private messages too, unless you know the individual in person or from any other avenue that you feel that you can trust them.
my thing is that, don't ask me for information in the open here or in private, if you are not willing to exchange information, because i will research you as i expect you to research me too.
Seen Janet at her apt north of 28th on Clyde Park. Decent time but she has put on a few pounds. 40 damage.
Picked up Rebekah on Division south of 28th. Great gfe with her. I had dated her a long time ago I didn't remember her but she remembered me.
30 year old with a few extra pounds but carrys it very well. Great time with her. 40 damage.
Nikki I picked up just north of 28th on Division. Slim 30 year old a very good time. Could have kicked myself for not getting her number. 40 damage.
Picked up Joy north of 28th on Division last night. She really has went downhill fast. Had a good time but will not repeat unless desparate. 30 damage.
Ashley Jo and Marsha seems to have disappeared. I have seen Sol Marie a few times during the day on Division south of 28th. I seen Holly walking north of 28 on Division yesterday. Someone told me last night she was now locked up. Dom't know how true the info is though. It came from another sw.
Member #5710
08-16-10, 09:01
Left home early this morning with the intention of offering transportation services to some willing lady. What I found this morning between 28th and Burton was two blonds, a brunette, one nice looking black lady and what I'm 95% sure was a TV. The blonds were closer to Burton. One had long straight hair, slim and attractive. The other medium length hair and not as attractive. The brunette was closer to Alger. Attractive enough with hair to the middle of her back but a touch heavy. The other two were walking together somewhere in between.
On my second pass all but the less attractive blond were making there way out of the neighborhood because the same LEO I mentioned last week was parked on the street halfway between Alger and Burton. (Yes, I recognized the guy). On my third pass he had moved closer to Burton and had the less attractive blond in the back of his car with her purse on the hood of the car. I cruised the side streets a bit hoping to catch up with the attractive blond or the brunette but they were long gone.
Cruised south on Division past 28th and saw another girl walking south a block or so from the Walgreen's. Hispanic looking with curly hair pulled back tight. Face looked good, C cups on top (or so it seemed driving by). She was wearing Daisy Dukes and her legs looked great and the ass firm and tight. I can't say for certain but this may be SolMarie that I have read about here. I passed by a couple of times and each time she was talking to someone else. Neither guy offered transport. By that time I had to go to work.
Nuts!!
Member #5710
08-17-10, 08:21
Older is not always better. I learned that a long, long time ago but I forgot that this morning. Went out before first light this morning. Hit the Avenue about 6:15. I spied three WSW. One was older or about my age any way (early 40s). Blond hair just past the neck, decent looking, large breasts, chunky legs and butt.
The other two were younger (probably early to mid 20s at best). One of the younger ones I saw yesterday hanging out around Alger. Saw here there again today. Mousy brown hair to the middle of her back. cute but somewhat plain (no make up) and wearing sweats. The other young one was heavy on the make up and dressed a bit flashy. Dark brown curly hair, medium length. Cute but looked pissed off. That might have been because of the dude on the bike hassling her as she made her way south on Division from Alger to the bus stop by the Walgreen's. Constantly on her phone or at least pretending to be. The dude might have been her "protector" or wanted to be.
I passed immediately on the second young girl and tried to decide between the first one and the older lady. In the end I picked up the older lady. Her name is Lisa and she looks like a mom who might have a kid or two in Jr high or high school. In any case we went to my spot and settled on 0.50 for half and half. Everything was covered and a bit rushed. The first half was mediocre but the second half, wow that was about as tight as I have ever had. Wasn't expecting that. Thing is, everything was rushed and she was nervous about cops showing up even though I told her that the spot was safe.
I do have her number, if any seniors want it. For myself, I won't repeat. Sometime this week I'll be looking for the young girl with the mousy brown hair unless I see SolMarie first.
Member #3987
08-17-10, 08:58
Cruised south on Division past 28th and saw another girl walking south a block or so from the Walgreen's. Hispanic looking with curly hair pulled back tight. Face looked good, C cups on top (or so it seemed driving by). She was wearing Daisy Dukes and her legs looked great and the ass firm and tight. I can't say for certain but this may be SolMarie that I have read about here. I passed by a couple of times and each time she was talking to someone else. Neither guy offered transport. By that time I had to go to work.
Nuts!!Your description fits SolMarie to a "t". Her ass isn't the only thing firm and tight, if you get my meaning. When you get closer, her face doesn't just look good: it's outstanding! She would be my only date if I weren't such a monger and always looking for something new. If you check mine and other's recent posts that mention her, you will see that area is usually where she is found. Plus LE doesn't seem as hot in Wyoming right now, so that's a plus. I live near 44th, and I have seen her nearly that far south on Division. Problem is she can obviously get picked up very quickly, so it's tough to catch her. Have seen her a couple times early morning (8-ish) and also an hour or two after dark.
Can probably tell you some more if you PM me.
Looking Around
08-17-10, 12:50
from my personal experience for over six years plus and recently again, the chat lines is where you can meet some very low cost sw/providers too.
some of the problem with the 616 area code chatline is that, you must at least have a camera phone, be very careful of guys pretending to be ladies, since they have a ladies voice, be very careful of **** girls and you would have to use the advise on how not to get ripoff by sw/providers, that has been written in the newbie forums on this board.
normally, you get free 60 minutes for each chat line number and if you decide to become a full member, your first purchase price with your membership number and password, you get half price off on any membership package that you purchase.
i am sharing just this brief information here, because of the way that, i have been seeing le and decoys too alot in the summer time and when the weather is not too cold too.
i hate to see a monger who contribute successful and informative report/post, to get in trouble with le or for the monger, to think that there are no other way to pick up sw.
the only thing i ask from anyone who i give or who get the numbers from any other monger/person is that, we share information discreetfully in the open board here and in private messages too, unless you know the individual in person or from any other avenue that you feel that you can trust them.
my thing is that, don't ask me for information in the open here or in private, if you are not willing to exchange information, because i will research you as i expect you to research me too.
see my posts about chat lines, the first one is at http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=579569#post579569. the number i've been using in the se michigan area for the livelinks line is 734 446 2010, that'll let you hear the gr people too. likely there's a local number that's in your area, check the newspaper classifieds.
My boys from out of town and I where strooling around 11pm through 4am[08/16/10]and then we saw a WSW by the name of jenna around the wyoming area by 36th street on division, she is either between 110 pounds to no more then 140 pounds and she is about 5feet 1inch tall I believe.
She was walking with her small dog and she gave us the look, so we parked abit by a street close to her and talked to her outside of our van.
The first thing she asked my boy when he got out to talk to her was, are you a cop, which was kind of funny to us.
She was mainly trying to buy some liquor and she was twicking a little bit too, he got her number and she said for him to call her on Tuesday morning when we check in.
When he called her on Tuesday morning, she answered. But either her pimp, boyfriend or a guy in the background, who maybe don't care or whatever, they both where acting funny on the phone and she said that she would call back and she did not.
So later on[08/17/10], we called her from a different number at night time and she answered, since he did not put his phone on speaker and I felt she was a time waster for me, so I did not ask him how it went with her, since we where going to meet a lady and her mom off the chatline wednessday morning[08/18/10].
I do have jenna number and am more then glad to give it to anyone, who have posted some successful/informative report/post or you don't mind chating a little bit, through private messages for me to feel satisfy with you and then I give it to you, just remember that, am a little busy with my own life, so I might not respond the sameday to you[this is for those with few post or who have not report/post any successful trip on a monthly basic].
Anyone else, who have posted a successful report/post on a monthly basic, if you ask for jenna number from me, you will either get her number from me the same day or the next day.
Between 3am through 4am[08/17/10], HSW/sunshine and her friends/pimps or whatever, where by julian on division street and being as I just saw about 5 through 8 LE cars/van in the laundry mat parking lot that is next to rainbow motel. So I did not let the bi*ch sunshine or her friends to get in my van at all, they where trying to get in, but I refuse and told them that, don't they know that LE are by the laundry mat and why are they trying to rush me to do a date or whatever.
At first a black guy, was doing her price barter with me and another black guy who was driving a bicycle was trying to come towards my van and I told them that, I don't play that sh*t and that they should let me and sunshine do the talking alone, maybe that is why she did not call me back, since her black friend, had some black girls/SW with him too and he ask me that, who do I want and I said sunshine/HSW or she is mixed/native american SW.
Sunshine is about 5feet 2inches tall and her weight is about 160 to 180 pounds I believe.
I did not get her number.
On Friday[08/13/10], I was chilling with one of my friend, whom I have not seen for over 8 months and why I was talking with them outside. Ron, a fellow guy with him and a BSW, passed us and came by to offer the BSW or a WSW, who he said was at his house waiting for him.
I offer ron and the BSW a ride and the BSW told me that, ron is her brother. Even though I offer ron and his so called sister/BSW a ride and I bought them some burger king food too, ron was telling me that I still have to pay for the BSW/WSW.
The BSW is about 5feet tall and 180 pounds in weight, while the WSW is about 5feet 4inches tall and 130 pounds in weight.
They stay on national street by the westside, but I wouldn't advise anyone to do a date in rons house, as he and his girls would probably rush you.
I am almost certain that for 30, you could get either a rush BJ and FS or only BJ/FS.
If you are still comfortable taking the risk with them, then I have the WSW cell phone number to give you, since she called me back on Friday and ask for ron and I told her that, I don't know and care where he his, since he was trying and succeeded in being slick with me, he did not give me back my 2 dollars that I gave him for burger king, he wanted to give me 10/20 dollars and I give him change for my 2 dollars, but I said that I don't have change, since I did not want him to see that I still have more money on me LOL.
He only wanted to give me my 2 dollars back, after I nag his ass of him not being truthful and that I can always get pu**y for free, from two of my big girls that I can fu*k for free, at least once or twice a week.
That was when he now said that, he got my money and that he can let me fu*k the BSW/WSW for 20 and I refuse, because of his dishonesty to me.
Member #5710
08-19-10, 11:11
Went out from 6:30 am to 7 am. Nothing much going on. Luann was sitting at a bus stop south of Burton with another wsw, a skinny older blond who was not attractive in the least. I thought about offering Luann transportation due to her incredible oral skills but wasn't feeling that needy this morning (holding out for Solo Marie I guess).
From there I took care of some company business and came back out from about 9:15am to 10am. Luann and the other now walking around. A couple other skinny blonds (short hair), an older one and a younger one, walking in front of the motorcycle shop. Older one was being picked up. Went around to get a better look at the younger one. Body looked good. Could tell about the face due to the baseball cap and humongous sunglasses. On my last pass the younger one was getting a ride also.
Cruised 28th to 44th both times I was out. Nothing going on there this morning.
I was through that same area - same time frame around 7AM.
Luann is the dark haired one then?
And yes the blond was fugly imo.
Your "incredible oral skills" comment got my attention.
CIM?
Went out from 6:30 am to 7 am. Nothing much going on. Luann was sitting at a bus stop south of Burton with another wsw, a skinny older blond who was not attractive in the least. I thought about offering Luann transportation due to her incredible oral skills but wasn't feeling that needy this morning (holding out for Solo Marie I guess).
From there I took care of some company business and came back out from about 9:15am to 10am. Luann and the other now walking around. A couple other skinny blonds (short hair), an older one and a younger one, walking in front of the motorcycle shop. Older one was being picked up. Went around to get a better look at the younger one. Body looked good. Could tell about the face due to the baseball cap and humongous sunglasses. On my last pass the younger one was getting a ride also.
Cruised 28th to 44th both times I was out. Nothing going on there this morning.
Member #5710
08-19-10, 20:53
Yes Luann was the redhead. She doesn't look that great either but put her next to that blond and she is Hedi Klum.
Yes she is CIM. Even better, she doesn't like to waste it. What's the saying? Good to the last drop.
I was through that same area - same time frame around 7AM.
Luann is the dark haired one then?
And yes the blond was fugly imo.
Your "incredible oral skills" comment got my attention.
CIM?
First of all, I have to thank loner 57 for giving me her number, since I did not want me or my boys to fu*k a fat chick.
At first when I called her she did not answer, but she later called me back and since I had not saved her number then, I was asking her who she was, since I taught one of my boys called her from my phone.
She told me that her name was something else and not holly, but when I called her back and we talked a bit, she now felt comfortable telling me that her name was holly, since I sent her a text that I have some money for holly that was owed to her, only then was she comfortable agreeing to be holly.
Now this is where I made a small mistake and can never fault loner 57 or whoever else, that has written a good report about her.
She was quoting me 100 per hour and 50 for half hour, but we price barter and she later agreed to do a brief date for 30 with me, which I regretted, since she was in a rush in the room, even though I made her check the bathroom and balcony with the inclusion of me letting her call her friend, that way she can know that I mean no harm or whatever bad to her.
She said I should call her at night time and which I did, but then her phone was either not working or she is out of minutes.
Some of the good thing about her is that, she give a BJ with a condom and she is very careful of FS with a condom too, as long as you have your own condoms, since she was asking me that, do I have any condoms and then I opened the drawer to show her many LOL.
Anyways, she sent me a picture of herself with a different number and if I decide to see her again, I would call her number first and maybe the other number that she sent the picture from.
If any of you guys who have seen her before and maybe have the energy and time, then you guys can help her as I don't have the time and energy to help her or any SW, who want to charge the normal escort rate, since for me, she was in a rush and I would rather pay an escort 100 per hour, since I will check for the escort reviews and do my own personal research on the escort too.
She did not ask for the 30 from me, until we where done, but with the way she trusted me, her thinking that she is worth more then the SW going rate and her phone not working as off [08/19/10], she might soon get in trouble with LE or a monger, who she might rub the wrong way of her upselling them or maybe she is smart to stay low key, if she has done alot of mongers wrong.
So once again, thanks to loner 57. I now have her number and her so called sister number too, just remember that if she answers her phone or call you back, she would probably not say on the phone that she is holly, she would probably give you a different name until you text her or tell her that you are using a sprint, nextel or boost phone, since she has free minutes to those carriers.
Around 4am[08/19/10], I saw her again on division street in the wyoming area but this time, she was walking very fast, alone and she was not giving me or anyone the look, but luckily for me, I recognize her and I made a U-turn by 44th street walgreens on division and then I called her by the side and she was very glad to see me and jump in my van.
She smelled like cigarettes and she was pleading with me to get her 20/25 dollars and that she would let me get a BJ/FS, but because of holly incident, I was reluctant to give her or any other SW a test for anything more then 15 dollars.
After I got to her destination for her date, she was very reluctant to get out and I had to beg her that, jenna please go and make that money from your date and I would call you later on or whenever I feel comfortable again, since when anyone break my trust or there word with me, I just can't trust them again. Only then was she relax/comfortable to go to her date, since she said that, she wants to stop hanging with the wrong people and I have been warned by folks on helping people who are addicted to drugs.
Anyways, if you want her number and can still keep your guard on with her, I believe she might be a good time for you as long as you check her mouth and use condom with her, if you get a BJ and FS from her.
Member #3987
08-20-10, 06:21
Yes Luann was the redhead. She doesn't look that great either but put her next to that blond and she is Hedi Klum.
Yes she is CIM. Even better, she doesn't like to waste it either.I posted in the wrong forum yesterday about a redhead I saw on Division at 36th. It was about 2:30 to 3:00 p.m. I didn't have funds available at the time but wanted to get digits because she looked good (so good I wondered if she might be LE decoy) from a distance.
Posting a pic that is not her, but looks really close. She was wearing jeans and a pink top. Could it be Luann, or someone else. She acted like she may be a little new, as she was pretty obvious in her behavior -- which also made me wonder about LE.
Remember pic is not her but very similar.
Member #5710
08-20-10, 08:58
So I'm out early again, turning onto Division from 44th about 6 am. Cruised to wealthy and then down Grandville Ave. Not much going on. There were a couple of bsw out and one did look cute. Cruised around some more on Division from Burton to 44th and back until about 6:45.
This is when I decide to call Tyler from BP. Called, left message and started cruising again while waiting for a call back. It's now 7 am and who do I spy in front of the McDonald's down there by Hank's brother's motel? Yep you guessed it. I pulled in, she gets in and tells me she's staying at that motel.
I ask her what her name is and she says "They call me Mommy". I say that she looks like a Sol Marie. She gets this weird look on her face. Wants to know if we've dated before. Nope. You sure your not a cop. Nope not a cop, you checked, remember? How do you know me? I have acquaintance that you've dated, they told me about you. So I'm famous? Yeah, something like that.
Any way, we get to the room and she tells me she's sharing it with a girlfriend. The girlfriend is a touch on the large side but not bad looking. She asks, "you want to do a double for $?" Sorry, I only have the 0.5. Girlfriend goes into the bathroom to shower. Now I know that it bother some guys to have another girl in the room. That kind of thing has never been an issue with me. Usually I tell them that they can stay and watch, if they like.
So we strip. Her body is smokin' hot. Even the tits are nice. Small but nice. She says she liked them when they were bigger but not now. says she lost weight and they shrunk on her. I told her that they looked good. So she starts a cbj. Not all that great but feels nice enough. She's basically doing the get 'em hard quick style. I'm playing with the poon but she says no fingers inside.
I'm starting to think that this girl is a female version of Howie Mandel but then she lets me go down on her. I don't mind the bush but I would prefer shaved or at least closely trimmed. She tells me only the button, no tongue inside. Another rule. My tounge did pass by the hole and I think I felt either a plug or a wad of tissue down there. Could have been my imagination.
I have to say she smelled and tasted great but she did not respond to the tongue action. That is only the third girl in my life (sw, escort, girlfriend, wife) that did not respond in a positive manner to my oral attentions. I don't say that to brag. It is simply one of the two non-job oriented natural talents that I have. (The other is not related to anything here).
So it's time for the main event. yes she is every bit as tight as I have been told. Problem is, she's also dry and the lube on the wrapper isn't helping matters. Still, a conclusion is reached.
Overall, not my worst experience but not anywhere near my best experience with a sw. The best one for me was a wsw named Karla (or Carla) back in the late '90s ('97 to '99). She was highly responsive and a borderline nympho. At some point it turned into her calling me for the booty call. I wonder whatever happened to her.
OK back to the present. Someone here mentioned to me that it might take two or three visits for Sol Marie to warm up to me. I will probably try her a couple more times and see if she gets better. If not, then I will move on.
On my way to work (about 7:30) I saw Joy on Division just north of 28th. She is actually looking pretty good today. Made up nice. She's dropped a lot of weight. Not eating well maybe? On the pipe more likely.
In the meantime, I'm gonna give Tyler another call.
Oh, I almost forgot. Sol Marie asked me if I wanted her phone number. Of course I said yes. There was no story about the number being for someone who could get in touch with her so I suspect that this is her actual phone.
It's available for senior members. Also available for regulars that are contributing, if you have something to trade.
Picked up Joy Monday the 16th at about 11pm. BBBJ CIM 20 nice job but paranoid as hell. Says she loves crack.
Thanks Joy!
El Monger
Member #3987
08-20-10, 23:22
Hey Sparty. Sol Marie's street name is "mami", sounds the same as "mommy" and means the same thing en espanol.
Sorry your experience was not that great. Maybe near that time of month? I've only seen her twice, but both times she was pretty wet. She got into it a little but not over the top. We were in my vehicle both times.
When you are parked, either the girls are actually nervous, or it gives them a good excuse to interrupt the action or insist you hurry up and finish, and that was the case with Sol Marie. She would seem pretty into it (and after 30+ years mongering I am getting to be a better judge of that). But then a light would flash funny or something else would distract her and I would get the "are you close" line, which usually puts me back at the starting line.
But all in all, she was enjoyable enough both times that I wished I had sprung for a room so she would be more comfortable.
My tounge did pass by the hole and I think I felt either a plug or a wad of tissue down there. Could have been my imagination.
Hmm, did she leave the room prior to the main action? It might easily have been her pipe, I have known more than one gal who hid it there, but they usually move it before getting down to business.
edit - Well, I mean they always move it, but usually it is moved before they let you touch them.
Packerbacker
08-26-10, 15:02
Saw a great looking WSW today at the top of the hill today.Mid 30's black hair, short blue jean Mini, about 5'10''. Long ass legs and meaty thighs on this one guys. Swung around and got beat to the prize (which doesn't happen alot to me) ANyway was doing a recon mission while waiting on my regular who stood me up. Mad I am. Cruised for about 30 minutes and only saw her on the stroll.
Be safe guys.
Packerbacker
08-27-10, 19:34
Got caught with my guard down today guys. I feel bad for myself because that's one of the signs of getting old in this game. Paid .60 for everything under the sun and came away dissappointed. No BJ well that's extra, no touch of my wetness that's extra. Nicky got numbers for the guys to stay away from her. Picked her up at Williams by Mcdonalds. Short short brown hair rail thin and no tits. What in hell was I thinking?
Was she carrying a large purse?
I saw her walking just north of there.
I almost made myself late to an appointment to pick her up but the purse shut me off. I can count on one hand how many sw carry a purse on "duty"
So I decided she may be LE or non-pro and moved on.
She had a good looking shape from road view but very ragged rough face.
that her?
Got caught with my guard down today guys. I feel bad for myself because that's one of the signs of getting old in this game. Paid .60 for everything under the sun and came away dissappointed. No BJ well that's extra, no touch of my wetness that's extra. Nicky got numbers for the guys to stay away from her. Picked her up at Williams by Mcdonalds. Short short brown hair rail thin and no tits. What in hell was I thinking?
Packerbacker
08-29-10, 06:57
Was she carrying a large purse?
I saw her walking just north of there.
I almost made myself late to an appointment to pick her up but the purse shut me off. I can count on one hand how many SW carry a purse on "duty"
So I decided she may be LE or non-pro and moved on.
She had a good looking shape from road view but very ragged rough face.
That her?No on the large purse. Short brown hair and little up top. She got undressed and it was a train wreck dude. I should've known better than to try and make it work. I'd been cruising Thrusday for 2 hours and Friday for 2 also. I got myself caught up in the "anything will do Mode". Ha ha We need a support group for when this happens, we call one another like people in AA do when they want a drink. Who wants to be my sponser? Ha ha
Member #5710
08-30-10, 08:57
No she didn't leave the room at all and never saw her messing around with that area as if to remove or put something there. I can't imagine something like that in there along with me being in there. Seems I would feel it or it would get crammed way up inside. The more I think about it the more I think it was a plug.
Hmm, did she leave the room prior to the main action? It might easily have been her pipe, I have known more than one gal who hid it there, but they usually move it before getting down to business.
edit - Well, I mean they always move it, but usually it is moved before they let you touch them.
Member #5710
08-30-10, 09:00
I'm not a big fan of car action either. Even in my "safe spots" I'm never entirely comfortable and if I'm not 100% comfortable, I know she can't be either.
Hey Sparty. Sol Marie's street name is "mami", sounds the same as "mommy" and means the same thing en espanol.
Sorry your experience was not that great. Maybe near that time of month? I've only seen her twice, but both times she was pretty wet. She got into it a little but not over the top. We were in my vehicle both times.
When you are parked, either the girls are actually nervous, or it gives them a good excuse to interrupt the action or insist you hurry up and finish, and that was the case with Sol Marie. She would seem pretty into it (and after 30+ years mongering I am getting to be a better judge of that). But then a light would flash funny or something else would distract her and I would get the "are you close" line, which usually puts me back at the starting line.
But all in all, she was enjoyable enough both times that I wished I had sprung for a room so she would be more comfortable.
Member #5710
08-30-10, 09:16
If the red you saw was similar to the pic you posted, then the girl you saw is not Luann. Luann is in her mid to late 40's and looks like mid 50's. She has much shorter and darker red hair and really cannot be mistaken for attractive. On the plus side, she has some of the best oral skills I have ever experienced.
I posted in the wrong forum yesterday about a redhead I saw on Division at 36th. It was about 2:30 to 3:00 p.m. I didn't have funds available at the time but wanted to get digits because she looked good (so good I wondered if she might be LE decoy) from a distance.
Posting a pic that is not her, but looks really close. She was wearing jeans and a pink top. Could it be Luann, or someone else. She acted like she may be a little new, as she was pretty obvious in her behavior -- which also made me wonder about LE.
Remember pic is not her but very similar.
Member #5710
08-30-10, 09:43
While I was out of town I got a call from one phone number and a text from another. I have somewhat of an idea who these might belong to but I deleted numbers from my phone. I'm posting the area code and last 4 digits of each number. Please send me a private message, if you recognize the numbers. I'll supply the rest of the number in a reply to confirm. I'd like to know for sure who is who before I return any calls.
616-***-4284
616-***-8394
Thanks
Oh ok. Weird coincidence on the place then.
And yea, I just posted in the Lansing forum about a train wreck myself but I stopped the train and moved on.
No on the large purse. Short brown hair and little up top. She got undressed and it was a train wreck dude. I should've known better than to try and make it work. I'd been cruising Thrusday for 2 hours and Friday for 2 also. I got myself caught up in the "anything will do Mode". Ha ha We need a support group for when this happens, we call one another like people in AA do when they want a drink. Who wants to be my sponser? Ha ha
Last week[08/30/10] around 2pm, I saw a very pretty HSW walking on division by 36th street and she did not give me or anyone the look, but thanks to you very good mongers, I said in my mind that, that must be soil mari/mami and I am not going to miss this opportunity.
So I made a right turn by buchana, and I drove all the way to 32nd and division and I was able to park by the gas station, that way I came off my vehicle and approached her by me walking to her, then she now felt comfortable and got in my vehicle.
In my dream, I took her to get some juice drinks and I gave her 5 dollars and she asked me that, can I please wait for her, that way I can drop her in her friends notel and which I did.
She was quoting me 100 per hour, 50 per half hour and I would still have to get a room, so I couldn't take her on her offer and she really didn't feel like doing anything yet, since she told me that, if you pick/meet her in her good mood, then you would have a good time, but if not, then it will be as usual a rush job.
Normally from what I c/perceive from my conversation with her in my dream, if you pick her up in the afternoon/early evening, she would/can be a good time as long as she is not high yet.
If you can't see her or don't have a way to get a hold of her, she told me that one SW I know, might be able to get a hold of her, but I have not call the SW since last week to ask for her[soil mari], since I am not going to give her[soil mari]or any pretty SW, an escort rate per hour, especially since I know how to score on the chatline.
On[08/30/10]late evening around 6:30pm I believe, I saw a WSW by julian club/the family dollar store or the dollar store opposite it, she was crossing the street and I felt like she must be a SW, so I approached her and started a conversation with her, then she gave me a room number to call for her, among one of those notels on 28th street and division area, unfortunately I wasn't driving and my buddy told me that, she is too ugly for me to make any move on her.
So I have not called her since last week, since she said that she will be there for only one day with her friend.
She stand at least five feet nine inches tall I believe and she weigh between 120 to no more then 140 pounds, if not because of my buddy and time.
I would have probably call her friends room number, since she was very nice/polite to me.
So I believe her digits is expired, she might probably be between burton and division and no more then 28th street I believe, and I think she might have no much upper teeth.
On[08/31/10]around 3am I believe, I spoted a pretty looking WSW on buchana and 28th street gas station, she was holding like a coffee and I kind of saw her, talking to a guy in a truck, but the guy did not talk to her much and then I saw her walking towards the american best whatever notel.
I now packed by the liquor store opposite american best and she came to my van, now without her wasting time, she was asking me that what am I trying to do and I told her that, am just mainly taking her to get some food and that why is she rushing me, jokingly I asked her that, are you a LE or trying to set me up, without her wasting any time, she was showing me her boobs and she was grabing my manhood[all this was in a dream].
Unfortunately for me, she wanted at least 30 for me to get any kind of BJ and since I had just finish with andrea, I was blunt with her and told her that, that is above my budget range for her as of now.
So she had me drop her in the gas station by 28th street, she did not give me her number or anyway to contact her.
She stand at least five feet and six inches tall and she weigh no more then 120 pounds, but if you see her and maybe pick her up, she might rush you, since she was saying that she is no crack h*e/bi*ch.
But she is pretty and at least when I saw her then last week, she was not twicking at all and that was one of the good thing I liked about her.
Member #3987
09-07-10, 14:19
Excellent info on Sol Marie, J. H. She was quite enjoyable both times I saw her, once in the afternoon, and once about 11 pm She did not appear high at all either time, so that must be the key, as you say.
She was quite a bit cheaper both times with me, 1st time BJ about 30 if I remember right, 2nd time 40-50 half and half. Possibly the price difference depends on her mood, but I do know when I talked to her before she mentioned how much money she made when she advertised on CL/BP, so she may be thinking she is worth more. I think she is but I certainly don't want her thinking so.
Thanks for the info, also confirming her regular stroll area.
She was quoting me 100 per hour, 50 per half hour and I would still have to get a room, so I couldn't take her on her offer and she really didn't feel like doing anything yet, since she told me that, if you pick/meet her in her good mood, then you would have a good time, but if not, then it will be as usual a rush job.
Normally from what I c/perceive from my conversation with her in my dream, if you pick her up in the afternoon/early evening, she would/can be a good time as long as she is not high yet.
Oralgiver75
09-08-10, 10:59
Being my first post here I will try to keep it brief. I attempted to find an introduction thread prior to posting in general reports, because I have always been leary of information from newbies who have no track record on the board.
First I will tell you how I came across this great site. I did a google search for my ATFSW "Solmarie", and low and behold I find this wealth of information that you fellow hobbist have put together.
I have spent the last two years searching a place for the world, when all I needed was to come to the good old USA. Hopefully a few of the names that I drop will help build my board cred, but I understand that continued sharing and help to the fellow man will ultimately be what truly helps. For the last year I have not had much time or funds to enjoy myself beyond the occasional pickup every couple of months. I have been rolling the grand rapids area since 1998, and I have met some of the best and worst that GR has to offer. I am new to this board, but as I said I have met plenty of wonderful ladies. A small portion of the ladies that I have spent time with are listed below.
Solmarie
Holly
Nikita
Lauri
Ashley
Tara (Advertises on BP now)
Samantha
Tiffany (Red)(Worst head ever)
Kimmy (Mouth like a vacuum)
Brooksie
Dawn
Beth
Liz
Erin
I look forward to sharing and gaining knowledge from all of the mongars who take the time to share.
Happy Hunting,
OG75
Nice first post. However, Sol Marie has nice legs, but other than that nothing special to me. Did her H/H for. 4. I would rather have granny type Shelly.
[QUOTE=Oralgiver75]Being my first post here I will try to keep it brief. I attempted to find an introduction thread prior to posting in general reports, because I have always been leary of information from newbies who have no track record on the board.
First I will tell you how I came across this great site. I did a google search for my ATFSW "Solmarie", and low and behold I find this wealth of information that you fellow hobbist have put together.
It's uncomfortable catching something form our play, but it would help if there was some hint as to who, where and when.
Thanks
Gents,
We play a high stakes game every time we pick up a girl off the street, or meet one from CL, BP or elsewhere. Every time we do something without protection - which we all love to do at times - we raise the risk level.
I have been confirmed with Gonorrhea and Chlamydia due to bareback oral sex. Antibiotics, a few days; all's well. No big deal in and of itself.
What IS a big deal is the lovely girlfriend I'm waiting to return from a trip so I can tell her and get her treated. If I'm lucky she won't leave me forever.
We all have many and differimg reasons for what we do. I can't moralize. I will simply challenge each of you to question thosw reasons and see if they are worth the risks.
In my case, they're not. I'm retiring, so to speak. I'll buy a fleshlight if I can't get it where there's love.
If you keep playing the game; at least stick with protection for everything. Value yourself and those you care for that much.
Peace out
Packerbacker
09-09-10, 18:13
Dude is legit by saying Kimmy is a Hoover for sure in my book. ha ha
Member #5710
09-10-10, 08:10
I don't know if it's the same Kimmy but I knew one a number of years ago that was a Hoover. Maybe more like a Kirby. Thin, black hair, sometimes wore glasses. Very gregarious and kind of crazy (the "needs to be in an institution" kind of crazy). She loved getting her kitty licked.
Oralgiver75, do you also remember a Michelle and a Carla (or Karla) from back in the late '90s? Both blonds and in their late 20's to early 30's back then. Decent looking (8s on a 10 scale). Seemed a bit like biker chicks. Neither did anything more serious than booze and pot. Carla (Karla) was (and still is) my absolute favorite. I continue to wonder what happened to them.
I did see another girl from way back then (more like mid '90s) last week. Lisa. Not raunchy ass eater Lisa. This Lisa, back in the day, had medium length black hair and a tight spinner body (white chick). She always wanted too much for a SW. I rarely partook of that. Poor BJ but oh so tight and liked to have her kitty licked.
Her hair is starting to gray now and she has gained a bunch of weight in the ass and thighs. She still wants too much for her services. I offered her transportation and gave her 0.30 for her personal support fund. She thanked me with a bbbj that ended with a hj. It was more for nostalgia than anything and I quickly remembered that her bjs weren't all that good.
Member #5710
09-10-10, 08:16
As you all (or most of you) already know, my only opportunity to dream is in the morning hours prior to work. With school back in session it is going to be difficult for me to be able to dream and report. I'll have to start much earlier than normal because the ladies are just not out while the kids are waiting at bus stops. I can't justify leaving the house that early very often. I'll report when I can.
For the time being I am saving so that I can dream about a couple of BP girls that have intrigued me. I'll be sure to report after those dreams.
I got a business trip to Grand Rapids for a few days, and I need to stay busy. Where can I find a nice AMP or friendly strip clubs?
Any suggestions?
TwistedBrother
09-14-10, 08:39
If you read this forum, you'll get just about all you need to know about AMPs, along with some googling here and there, perhaps. Not much on here about strip clubs and I don't think the scene in GR is very good. Detroit and Flint are better and Lansing isn't too bad, but probably too much of a drive for you.
I got a business trip to Grand Rapids for a few days, and I need to stay busy. Where can I find a nice AMP or friendly strip clubs?
Any suggestions?
Member #5710
09-16-10, 09:26
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/AdultJobs/erotic-massage-22/4778081
I seem to recall that a few months back she posted an ad or two in the escort section of BP but it seems that lately she's "hidden" some of her ads in the adult jobs, bodyrubs and Dom/Fetish section.
I called her yesterday and set up an time for this morning. I called just prior to arriving and asked her if it was a problem that I'm early (10 minutes) No problem. She shares a house with another girl and a young guy who is the home owner. Home is in the Boston Square neighborhood.
She is the girl in the pics at the link above but she looks more like the second and third pic rather than the first one. She's actually prettier in person and if she had done her hair and "put a face on" I think she would look even better than the first pic in the link.
This was to be an hour session for .75 and we went about the usual stuff that consenting adults do. Skills were slightly better than average and she really got into it (some aspects of a woman's arousal cannot be faked).
Session ended up only lasting 40 minutes (with about 10 minutes of talking) but in contrast to the last time that happened to me, this time I did not feel short changed at all.
I will repeat a couple more times because the price is decent and I think this was more of a get to know each other meeting. If things don't continuously improve, then I will move on.
TwistedBrother
09-16-10, 10:31
Understandable if you don't want to give full details, but it would be good to know a few things, like:
1) Was there an actual massage, too, and was it good?
2) .75 for an hour is pretty good ... if it was FS ... but "eh" if it was something lesser. By saying "usual stuff that consenting adults do" but also calling it a get-to-know-you session, one kind of wonders whether it was a good deal or just so-so
3) Was there any attempt at upsell or were you led at all to believe that more $$$ would lead to more fun?
Thanks for reply or PM, if you prefer ... but a monger really needs a little more.
Edit: I see in her ad she says "all-inclusive" and no tipping required ... so does that mean it was the full meal deal? Pretty damn good for .75 if so ... but also leaves one wondering what the continuous improvement you hope for implies?
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/AdultJobs/erotic-massage-22/4778081
This was to be an hour session for .75 and we went about the usual stuff that consenting adults do. Skills were slightly better than average and she really got into it (some aspects of a woman's arousal cannot be faked).
Member #5710
09-16-10, 13:00
I have no problem with details. My last post was quick because I wrote it shortly after arriving at work and had a lot on my plate (I was late into work this morning because I was "at a customer").
First, There was no actual massage. She was interested in what I was into so if I had asked for one, she likely would have given me one. She has another ad in the rubdown section of BP that advertises a bubble bath and massage for 1.2. I may take her up on that sometime. It's been a long time since I had a woman bathe me.
When I asked her what she liked, she told me that she was up for pretty much anything but greek. I can fully understand that and it would not be something i would ask for.
Next, yes it was CFS. There was FK with the occasional DFK, BBBJ, DATY and a bit of Russian. This is what I meant by "usual stuff that consenting adults do".
There was nothing about this appointment that was "mind blowing" but it wasn't a bad appointment. Everything was "comfortable and nice" not mechanical. As for my comment about this being a "get to know you" session, I have had first time sessions with other providers where everything was adequate on the first go but by the second or third session it had been elevated to "ass spanking fun". Sometimes a girl needs a session or two to become really comfortable with a guy and for myself, I sometimes need a session or two to become really comfortable with her.
I don't think that I got less than what I expected (except for the time, which was partially my fault for not saying something or simply continuing with the action) but instead I got something different than I expected. More like a "cuddle up on a chilly day" type of FS. We'll see if this elevates to something more rowdy next time. Personally, I think I got a good deal for 0.75 but I should have finished out the hour. Next time.
No attempt to upsell at all. No discussion regarding additional services or what services would be rendered. No indication that additional donations would lead to more fun. Hell, for all she knew the envelope I set down on her dresser could have been empty or filled with newspaper. She never acknowledged it in any way (I've had other who have excused themselves and taken it into another room to count it. Bad form on their part)
Whenever I see "all inclusive" or words similar to that, I always consider the words to mean a "full meal deal". As for the "continuous improvement" I am hoping for, I guess what I am hoping is that a bit of chemistry develops and things get a bit more intense. It may well be that I simply have to ask for it but it's not in my nature to say "do this" or "do that". I'm trying to break myself of that.
On an additional note, this girl appears to be educated. She does not appear to be doing any drugs as she showed none of the typical signs of drug use (mentally or physically). She seems genuine in her desire to please.
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/AdultJobs/erotic-massage-22/4778081
I met her in person at a party that was sponsored by another board - two of the pics are exactly the same as what she used on the other board. She got off on the wrong foot, right away. She got so shit-faced at the party that it wasn't real. She also had considerable extra pounds on her. I heard from other guys that certain positions were unavailable because of her bad back, despite the fact that she pops vicodins like candy. I'd never see her, even though she's FS.
I met her in person at a party that was sponsored by another board - two of the pics are exactly the same as what she used on the other board. She got off on the wrong foot, right away. She got so shit-faced at the party that it wasn't real. She also had considerable extra pounds on her. I heard from other guys that certain positions were unavailable because of her bad back, despite the fact that she pops vicodins like candy. I'd never see her, even though she's FS.
She even post occasional freebies for rides,lmao. Sad though.
Member #5710
09-16-10, 14:26
If it's the site I'm thinking of, I'm familiar with their parties from the reading I've done. (Never been to one of their parties).
In any case, I'm wondering how long ago that was. The reason I ask is that while I was researching this girl (yes I try to get as much free background as I can) I found this site;
http://littlehams.xanga.com/
Apparently a blog she set up about five years ago and quit posting to about two years ago. (she has a my space page to but it is set to private). She writes about a car accident and getting her back fixed. A lot of it sounds like bullshit but if half of what she has posted is true, then she has been an abuser of many different drugs and alcohol. Maybe she still is but she appeared clean and sober to me. I think if anything, she's likely off the drugs but possibly still boozing it up. In any case, I went in knowing that she could be an addict.
As for her weight, I would not describe her as fat but she could stand to lose about 20 pounds. The picture of her squatting is likely recent. Good representation of her weight.
We used 4 different positions (dog, CG, RCG and mish), no issues but maybe other positions are off limits?
I met her in person at a party that was sponsored by another board - two of the pics are exactly the same as what she used on the other board. She got off on the wrong foot, right away. She got so shit-faced at the party that it wasn't real. She also had considerable extra pounds on her. I heard from other guys that certain positions were unavailable because of her bad back, despite the fact that she pops vicodins like candy. I'd never see her, even though she's FS.
Member #5710
09-16-10, 14:43
I'd never see her, even though she's FS.
Out of curiosity, why would you never see her? Personal preference or is there more to it?
I can't imagine it's drugs and booze because at least half of the internet escorts and all of the SWs are on one or the other or both. As far as looks go, she ain't a knock out but she ain't ugly either. So what is it??
I'm beginning to think that there is a bigger story here. Now I'm wondering if I may be better off not visiting her again.
Out of curiosity, why would you never see her? Personal preference or is there more to it?
I can't imagine it's drugs and booze because at least half of the internet escorts and all of the SWs are on one or the other or both. As far as looks go, she ain't a knock out but she ain't ugly either. So what is it??
I'm beginning to think that there is a bigger story here. Now I'm wondering if I may be better off not visiting her again.
She has a reputation for bad incall locations and drug use. I was totally turned-off by her personality, when I met her in December of 2008. Also, she was pudgy when I met her - fat, drunk and stupid is no way for her to go through life. lol
TwistedBrother
09-16-10, 17:15
I have no problem with details.
Thanks for all the info ... hope you didn't think I was trying to get you to write a novel, but just wanting to get a better sense if she was a good deal. She indeed sounds like she is. Appreciate it.
If I decide to unretire, I'd definitely see her. I also think, as you are thinking, she's maybe gotten part of her act together and is improved over what other mongers have said from the past.
Member #5710
09-16-10, 22:20
Yeah I get what you're saying.
I wasn't turned off by her incall. Not the best nieghborhood but far from being "the hood". Hell, I only work a mile away. I generally prefer a house/apartment over a motel room anyway.
As for the rest, I can only vouch for what I observed. No signs of drug use. Might still booze it up but sober this morning. It has been a couple years since you saw her. A lot can change but hey, to each his own.
Not sure of the definition of pudgy. She could stand to lose about 20 lbs but I would rather have that than a rail thin crack addict.
She has a reputation for bad incall locations and drug use. I was totally turned-off by her personality, when I met her in December of 2008. Also, she was pudgy when I met her - fat, drunk and stupid is no way for her to go through life. lol
Member #5710
09-16-10, 22:26
You're welcome.
Thanks for all the info ... hope you didn't think I was trying to get you to write a novel, but just wanting to get a better sense if she was a good deal. She indeed sounds like she is. Appreciate it.
If I decide to unretire, I'd definitely see her. I also think, as you are thinking, she's maybe gotten part of her act together and is improved over what other mongers have said from the past.
Yeah I get what you're saying.
I wasn't turned off by her incall. Not the best nieghborhood but far from being "the hood". Hell, I only work a mile away. I generally prefer a house/apartment over a motel room anyway.
As for the rest, I can only vouch for what I observed. No signs of drug use. Might still booze it up but sober this morning. It has been a couple years since you saw her. A lot can change but hey, to each his own.
Not sure of the definition of pudgy. She could stand to lose about 20 lbs but I would rather have that than a rail thin crack addict.
If she's only 20 lbs overweight, she has lost some weight. She was about 40-50 pounds overweight when I met her. She also talked way too much, coming off as an idiot with an attitude. I looked up some old emails about her and there was a reference to drug paraphernalia being in plain view at her incall - he wasn't sure if it belonged to her.
Member #5710
09-17-10, 09:59
Well I have to say she does like to talk but then I have met very few (maybe two) women who don't. She didn't come across as an idiot; just a typical girl giving long winded answers to questions I asked her. It is a "fault" of mine to try to get to know a little bit about a provider. It seems to make them feel more comfortable (maybe a bit appreciated?) on subsequent visits when I ask them about something they told me. It also gives me an opportunity to determine how much BS they fed me. To a point (admittedly on a somewhat superficial level), I do care about what they have to say.
I also make a point of taking a good look around whenever I am in a home/apartment/motel room of a provider. Previously, when I said there were no signs of drug use, I was referring to her own physical appearance and actions and mental acuity. I should have also mentioned that there was no drug or drug paraphernalia to be seen. That doesn't mean there wasn't any but only that I didn't see it. My personal opinion is that if she is still doing any kind of drug, it is alcohol and nothing else.
The excessive talking and attitude you witnessed could have been the result of her being shitfaced at the time. Back in my drinking days I could talk for hours about nothing when I was plastered and not realize that I was annoying the hell out of people.
If she was 40 to 50 lbs overweight, I would have turned around and left. Not because of the weight (a bigger girl doesn't bother me at all, if the weight is carried well) but because she would have misrepresented herself. If you look at the pics in the link I provided in a previous post, the pic of her squatting and the pic of her laying on her back on the floor are accurate representations of her appearance. The only exception would be that her face looks better in person.
Here is what I found interesting. This morning I received an unsolicited email from her. In part it said, "I noticed some of your time wasn't used. I plan to add it on next time, if you want to get together again. I am looking forward to it. Feel free to text me with any questions you may have."
I've gone short on time on occasion with other providers and never received an offer from any of them to tack the unused time on to a subsequent appointment. I will find out in a couple of weeks if she holds to her statement.
Just to be clear, I am not trying to convince you to give her another chance. I wanted to state that for the record because when I read through my post, it kind of sounds that way. All I am doing here is trying to further clarify my observations. I have no doubt that you saw what you saw.
If she's only 20 lbs overweight, she has lost some weight. She was about 40-50 pounds overweight when I met her. She also talked way too much, coming off as an idiot with an attitude. I looked up some old emails about her and there was a reference to drug paraphernalia being in plain view at her incall - he wasn't sure if it belonged to her.
Member #3987
09-17-10, 13:46
http://littlehams.xanga.com/
Apparently a blog she set up about five years ago and quit posting to about two years ago. (she has a my space page to but it is set to private). She writes about a car accident and getting her back fixed. A lot of it sounds like bullshit but if half of what she has posted is true, then she has been an abuser of many different drugs and alcohol.Wow. What a picture that blog is. From "the life", whatever she meant by that, with judges and lawyers and doctors who bought her expensive gifts to 75 a pop today. I feel kinda bad for her, but not too bad to take advantage, hehe. Not gonna try to be her boytoy though. They apparently turn to shitheads in short order!
Member #5710
09-18-10, 08:56
Wow. What a picture that blog is. From "the life", whatever she meant by that, with judges and lawyers and doctors who bought her expensive gifts to 75 a pop today. I feel kinda bad for her, but not too bad to take advantage, hehe. Not gonna try to be her boytoy though. They apparently turn to shitheads in short order!
I kind of feel bad for her to but in the end she chose to live in the fast lane. Maybe she's trying to slow it down now. Who knows.
I personally don't see it as taking advantage. She wants to advertise 75 a pop, then so be it. She has the power to get in better shape and up her game to ask for more. Or get out altogether.
No boytoy here either. I cannot afford two steady women in my life. The one I have already works hard at ensuring I don't climb out of middle class. LOL.
Oralgiver75
09-18-10, 14:34
I have never met the woman being discussed at the moment, but I have read a few reviews about her on a different site. Some were good, but most of them were either very vague, or just not good at all. I have seen her going by the name of ashlillian before as well. Even though she had several poor reviews I still was willling to give it a shot (the $ was right), but 2 days before I was going to try and schedule she was banned from the board. That increased the risk just a little too much for me. I was never able to find out why she was banned, but when a mod bans you from a board there is a 80% chance that it was for a good reason.
Happy Hunting,
OG75
I will be visiting Allegan, Michigan, near Grand Rapids for buisness Pl gide where can I find Escort girls? Is it legally allowed to invite girl to visit your hotel room in USA
Thanking you in advance
You know there has to be a scene in Allegan with all the meth running in and around that little town but I would venture to guess that it is all in bar pickups and such, there would be no street walking. The nearest place to get escort services would either be in Grand Rapids or Kalamazoo, same goes for strip clubs. Hope you enjoy your trip, but it would be more work to find some fun there than you might imagine.
I will be visiting Allegan, Michigan, near Grand Rapids for buisness Pl gide where can I find Escort girls? Is it legally allowed to invite girl to visit your hotel room in USA
Thanking you in advance
Allegan is a small town. You're not likely to have an easy time finding escorts in Allegan. If you're a big spender, you may find women, especially drunk ones, who are looking for a good time. You can invite a girl to your room, as long as you don't offer to pay for sex. Prostitution is only legal in the U.S. in some counties in Nevada, in licensed brothels, and in Rhode Island, from what I've heard.
Little is done about it, if it's discreet, because judges, politicians and wealthy businessmen are busy getting their dicks wet with hookers. Besides, regardless of what anyone says, it's a drain on government resources to do stings. Streetwalkers, on the other hand, are easy targets for vice cops, who often get free nookie for not turning them in. Most cops aren't too interested in busting hookers, unless there are complaints.
Member #3987
09-19-10, 22:48
Driving south on Division between Burton and 28th about 6:30/7:00 Sunday evening. Didn't hold out much hope since the sidewalks were jampacked with the usual crowd. I hate that, other places I have mongered in the past didn't have so much general population on the stroll, don't feel comfortable picking up a sw in crowds like that.
But saw a wsw walking north between Baylis and Banner. Tight blue jeans, white top, light brown hair, about 5'8" with a rocking body. I looked, she looked back. Turned at the next block to circle back, down the alley and back out to Division about where she was, but she had crossed to the other side just before the mex grocery. She headed straight for the parking lot like she was going shopping. I turned onto Banner at the store, and she never looked as I passed. Figured she either wasn't strolling or was just ignoring me, so went down the street a ways and turned around to head back to Division. Lo and behold, there she was on my side of the street. Pulled to the curb and she walked right up and jumped in. Kind of odd, because it seemed like she was trying to get away from me. She mentioned something about trying to be careful, she didn't want to get busted (me neither). Quite often I get girls who say they thought I was a cop, so that may have been the problem.
Anyhoo, she tells me her name is Kim, what do I want to do. She is quite pretty, cute face, nose a little long but not bad, light brown hair pulled up in a bun. She is 27 years old, says she just recently got here from Chicago. Her mother lives here, so there is a possibility she has been here before. She was obviously wearing a greatly oversized bra, but still looks pretty hot, a 9 or 10 for the street, except for a bad spot between her front teeth. Nice full lips, brown/hazel eyes. When I get a really nice one (and she is) I am willing to pay a higher rate for the opportunity to take her home and take my time with her. I live quite a ways from the stroll, so I tell her the deal: everything, and we take our time. I start at 50, but she doesn't want to go that far (I really live quite far now), she wants at least 80 to take that much time. I agree and tell her I will tip her 20 when we're through if we really take our time, for a total of 100. She agrees and we have a nice conversation on the drive.
She is super friendly and easy to talk to. The extremely normal conversation confirms my instincts (and her assertion) that she is not the average sw. She is very personable and presents herself very well. She would do quite well as an escort.
Finally home, we get comfortable on the couch. Guys, she has a smoking body. Nice skin, super nice breasts, a large B or small C with great nipples that get nice and hard with a little tongue work. Great figure, a little bit of belly but it justs looks sexy on her. I can't say enough about her figure. She has nice legs, and I usually like to get some head time between them, but she was obviously uncomfortable with that, probably because she didn't think she smelled that good. (She did smell strong, but not bad) So she decides to swap my head for hers. Oralgiver75 posted awhile back in General about some girls he used to know and called one "Kimmy the Hoover". I don't know if this is the same Kim, but this girl is certainly no Hoover. A very average, so-so BJ. I couldn't swear in court that she has a tongue. But she sure looks hot doing it.
Eventually we get to the main event. I lay her back and slide into a squeezebox that is every bit as tight as SolMarie, maybe tighter. She says she has two kids, I don't know how the hell they came out of that. Here is where she earns her money, and the reason I am willing to spend more sometimes, because it takes me a long time to get to the point of no return. We switch back and forth between mish and doggy. Doggy was extra good because she looks great like that. Like I say, it takes me a long time and she never rushed me or asked if I was going to cum. She seemed to enjoy it at first, but I usually go so long that the girl is ready to quit way before I am (I know that sounds like BS or bragging, but I really wish it was not that way, because sometimes I can't even get to the finish line). But still, she never asked me to hurry up.
She agrees to give me her number when I get her back to her "friend" who is waiting for her and has her phone. I will definitely see her again and probably pay her even more for an overnight. If you like GFE, Kim is the one for you. She knows this site, and agreed that I could give out her number, so regular contributors can PM me, and also get some info about the "friend" that I don't want to put out here publicly. I'm sure she will go for a lot less, this was just a special circumstance, but it does seem like they all want 40 for all the way these days, anyway.
I have met her in person and she is NOT overweight. In fact, I thought she looked better than her pictures on the board where she was banned. I am not sure why she was banned, but I think it had to do with her anger.
Having said that, she PMed me for an appointment after seeing my thread requesting someone in GR. We set up a two hour apptmnt and I talked with her two hours prior. Unfortunately, I forgot her number, so I went to her door without another call. My mistake but it should have not been a problem. When I got there, she said her "roommate's BF" was there and she had to wait until he left cuz "they don't know what I do." Yeah right. She said call back in a half hour. I did. She said he was still there and didn't know what to tell me. I called back in another half hour as she again told me. Then she didn't know either way but did not cancel the appointment. I should have. When I called back again later to do that, she never again picked up her phone.
BTW, she blamed ME because I didn't call her within a half hour before arriving at her place.
So I was able to set something up with someone else, but it ruined my night...and my perception of her. I truly did want to meet her, but now I would not. I think she is unpredictable.
As for her neighborhood, it was not a problem for me. Again, IMO she looked great and this was in the Fall of 2009.
I have never met the woman being discussed at the moment, but I have read a few reviews about her on a different site. Some were good, but most of them were either very vague, or just not good at all. I have seen her going by the name of ashlillian before as well. Even though she had several poor reviews I still was willling to give it a shot (the $ was right), but 2 days before I was going to try and schedule she was banned from the board. That increased the risk just a little too much for me. I was never able to find out why she was banned, but when a mod bans you from a board there is a 80% chance that it was for a good reason.
Happy Hunting,
OG75
Member #5710
09-20-10, 08:17
Where is there a good place to look in Allegan?
Is there some kind of construction project that's bringing out of state people into Allegan? Otherwise, I can't figure out why anyone would be interested in the town or even the county.
Fun Knight69, my personal opinion is that there is no good place to look in Allegan. You might be able to pick up a local girl in one of the bars in Allegan or maybe in Door or Wayland (if your charming, buy her enough drinks and the local guys aren't looking for a fight). The better chance would be to go to GR or Kzoo to the areas where SWs frequent. Even better yet would be to contact someone from one of the standard websites.
Where is there a good place to look in Allegan?
I look in GR, not Allegan.
Driving south on Division between Burton and 28th about 6:30/7:00 Sunday evening. Didn't hold out much hope since the sidewalks were jampacked with the usual crowd. I hate that, other places I have mongered in the past didn't have so much general population on the stroll, don't feel comfortable picking up a sw in crowds like that.
But saw a wsw walking north between Baylis and Banner. Tight blue jeans, white top, light brown hair, about 5'8" with a rocking body. I looked, she looked back. Turned at the next block to circle back, down the alley and back out to Division about where she was, but she had crossed to the other side just before the mex grocery. She headed straight for the parking lot like she was going shopping. I turned onto Banner at the store, and she never looked as I passed. Figured she either wasn't strolling or was just ignoring me, so went down the street a ways and turned around to head back to Division. Lo and behold, there she was on my side of the street. Pulled to the curb and she walked right up and jumped in. Kind of odd, because it seemed like she was trying to get away from me. She mentioned something about trying to be careful, she didn't want to get busted (me neither). Quite often I get girls who say they thought I was a cop, so that may have been the problem.
Anyhoo, she tells me her name is Kim, what do I want to do. She is quite pretty, cute face, nose a little long but not bad, light brown hair pulled up in a bun. She is 27 years old, says she just recently got here from Chicago. Her mother lives here, so there is a possibility she has been here before. She was obviously wearing a greatly oversized bra, but still looks pretty hot, a 9 or 10 for the street, except for a bad spot between her front teeth. Nice full lips, brown/hazel eyes. When I get a really nice one (and she is) I am willing to pay a higher rate for the opportunity to take her home and take my time with her. I live quite a ways from the stroll, so I tell her the deal: everything, and we take our time. I start at 50, but she doesn't want to go that far (I really live quite far now), she wants at least 80 to take that much time. I agree and tell her I will tip her 20 when we're through if we really take our time, for a total of 100. She agrees and we have a nice conversation on the drive.
She is super friendly and easy to talk to. The extremely normal conversation confirms my instincts (and her assertion) that she is not the average sw. She is very personable and presents herself very well. She would do quite well as an escort.
Finally home, we get comfortable on the couch. Guys, she has a smoking body. Nice skin, super nice breasts, a large B or small C with great nipples that get nice and hard with a little tongue work. Great figure, a little bit of belly but it justs looks sexy on her. I can't say enough about her figure. She has nice legs, and I usually like to get some head time between them, but she was obviously uncomfortable with that, probably because she didn't think she smelled that good. (She did smell strong, but not bad) So she decides to swap my head for hers. Oralgiver75 posted awhile back in General about some girls he used to know and called one "Kimmy the Hoover". I don't know if this is the same Kim, but this girl is certainly no Hoover. A very average, so-so BJ. I couldn't swear in court that she has a tongue. But she sure looks hot doing it.
Eventually we get to the main event. I lay her back and slide into a squeezebox that is every bit as tight as SolMarie, maybe tighter. She says she has two kids, I don't know how the hell they came out of that. Here is where she earns her money, and the reason I am willing to spend more sometimes, because it takes me a long time to get to the point of no return. We switch back and forth between mish and doggy. Doggy was extra good because she looks great like that. Like I say, it takes me a long time and she never rushed me or asked if I was going to cum. She seemed to enjoy it at first, but I usually go so long that the girl is ready to quit way before I am (I know that sounds like BS or bragging, but I really wish it was not that way, because sometimes I can't even get to the finish line). But still, she never asked me to hurry up.
She agrees to give me her number when I get her back to her "friend" who is waiting for her and has her phone. I will definitely see her again and probably pay her even more for an overnight. If you like GFE, Kim is the one for you. She knows this site, and agreed that I could give out her number, so regular contributors can PM me, and also get some info about the "friend" that I don't want to put out here publicly. I'm sure she will go for a lot less, this was just a special circumstance, but it does seem like they all want 40 for all the way these days, anyway.
Great report. I wish I had talent to write a report like that. I agree with all that was said about Kim. I met her Friday night she was walking with Joy.
Joy gave her a good report on me and I set up a meeting on Saturday night with Kim. She's everything Loner reported on. I had a great time for 60 which is higher than I normally go but felt like it was worth it. I have digets and hope she doesn't go back to Chicago to see her two boys too soon.
Don
Member #3987
09-20-10, 15:05
Is there some kind of construction project that's bringing out of state people into Allegan? Otherwise, I can't figure out why anyone would be interested in the town or even the county.The fair is the only reason I can think of to go there. Don't know when it is though, or if it is already over. The one guy seemed like from out of country though, and I can't imagine that fair being that popular.
Member #3987
09-20-10, 15:11
Great report. I wish I had talent to write a report like that. I agree with all that was said about Kim. Thanks Dongr. I didn't realize it was so long until I actually saw it posted. Guess you could say I am a little enthusiastic about Kim. Wonder if she knows Sol Marie, that's a double team that would probably end up giving me a stroke.
Fat drunk and stupid?
Thats a real douchebag thing to say.
My xanga site that I kept as a 15-18 yr old was comprimised by an ex boyfriend I dumped for the atty. He hacked my site and wrote things like "I like to fuck married men, " "I do cocaine all day everyday, " etc. We went to court for two years, he was jailed for 8 months for the harassment.
I dated a lawyer and worked for him for a year or so. Thats what upset the ex and fueled the BS rumors on his part, and also the fact that I was working at a strip club.
I will willingly take a drug test TODAY to prove I do not use drugs, nor do I drink. I DO NOT use Vicodin. I actually called my mom and we had a good laugh at that. I suffer from Primary Biliary Cirrhosis, which is irritation and swelling (inflammation) of the bile ducts of the liver, which blocks the flow of bile. This obstruction damages liver cells. I CANNOT take any sort of prescription drug or even an aspirin without risking a visit to an ER. I also have Canal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Facet Syndrome, and Scoliosis. I spend a significant chunk of the last 5 years fighting for the ability to walk and live a pain free life. The only medication I take is cholestyramine. I have a bad liver. I was hospitalized last week for four days because my kidneys were shutting down- a side effect of PBC. Anybody who is close to me knows just how bad it is. I'm on a waiting list for liver transplant, but then again, so is everyone and their mother. Will likely be critical in another 5 years or so.
I don't think I should have to spell my health issues out to a bunch of strangers who think I am just "fat drunk and stupid. " You know, it is really a testament to your character when you say such things about people when you don't know their situation.
Also, the picture that was painted of my life that was greener on the other side- getting gifts from doctors lawyers, etc. Let me set that straight for you also. My parents took out a second mortgage on one of their homes to help pay for a procedure that allowed me to walk again after 26 weeks. My doctor "donated" 7 weeks of treatment if I would accompany him on a tour of speaking engagements that demonstrated how his machine, the DRX900, worked.
Oh and if you call having your head smashed through a mahogany cupboard when your lawyer boyfriend got drunk, a great life, don't. Living over in those green acres was a hellish nightmare.
Don't say you feel bad for me. I am happy, I may be sick, but aside from that my life is good. I am making a killing while other girls are going up to 20days at a time without even one appointment. You may see my specials for $75, but I also advertise $200/hr on other sites, and everywhere in between. I pay a marketing consultant to take care of most of my advertising on private sites that are untapped, for the most part. I have great friends. I am able to walk today. I get to meet a lot of great people in this business that I genuinely have a great time with and build solid relationships with.
Don't listen to what everyone says. If you think I am fat and ugly, thats okay. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But lets be grown ups and keep those nasty comments to ourselves. Lets be real here guys, truth be told, most SPs wouldn't touch most guys with a ten foot pole if the right amount of money wasn't on the table. You would think that you guys would see my $75 massage and think "wow, a provider with the monger's plight in mind! " But no, instead I am accused of being a drunk/drug addict.
To those who have stuck up for me, thank you. To the guy who directed me to the trash talking on here with the purpose of being able to defend myself, thank you also, and I will definitely be showing you my appreciation when our play date comes up! To everyone with a negative view of me, I am truly sorry you feel that way and I hope that in the future I am able to change that opinion of me.
Thank You for taking the time to read. God Bless.
I have to say also that there is something about a couple of the complaints that seem exaggerated. I can buy that a guy had a bad experience but when a girl is getting a lot of good reviews, I tend to think that overly descriptive complaints have a lot of extra BS in them.
In any case, this all seems to be a case of YMMV
I know from experience that posting a bad review or thinking of it, can generate some passionate responses from her. I am guessing that she is pretty good if you get to see her, but yet I have read of some reviews that indicated differently. When I researched her before visiting her, I PMed a couple of the guys who had poor reviews and like you, I figured that they must be somehow different than I. Yet when my appointment fell through, I decided that perhaps I was not.
Most SPs will have good reviews (which certainly can be as contrived as a poor review) and even a bad review or two. The trick is determining how the SP will treat you, and deciding if your money is best spent on her versus another lady.
Member #3987
09-21-10, 00:02
Also, the picture that was painted of my life that was greener on the other side- getting gifts from doctors lawyers, etc. Let me set that straight for you also.
Don't listen to what everyone says. If you think I am fat and ugly, thats okay. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But lets be grown ups and keep those nasty comments to ourselves. Lets be real here guys, truth be told, most SPs wouldn't touch most guys with a ten foot pole if the right amount of money wasn't on the table. You would think that you guys would see my $75 massage and think "wow, a provider with the monger's plight in mind! " But no, instead I am accused of being a drunk/drug addict.
Thank You for taking the time to read. God Bless.I agree. Don't listen to what everyone says. I hope you do understand the purpose of this board, which of course should not be to trash someone. But it IS in large part a vehicle for mongers to make better choices about providers, and that includes the bad along with the good. I do agree that it can go too far at times, but also quite often it is a guy just blowing off steam. Also, most comments on here are obviously meant for fellow mongers, and mostly not EVER intended to be personally harmful to an SP, since we generally don't think of you reading this board.
Most of us out here are NOT doctors and lawyers, and yes, I for one can get a little resentful that they normally get the girls like you. You know, the ones who "wouldn't touch most guys with a ten foot pole if the right amount of money wasn't on the table." How ironic that you would make that statement right after admonishing guys to "be grownups and keep those nasty comments to ourselves." I know you didn't or don't think that is such a nasty comment, because you characterize it as being "real". But would you make that statement to a client's face? There are a lot of potential clients here, who all may realize the truth of that statement, but may not now be inclined to visit you.
I understand hurtful things were said. And I understand my comment about doctors and lawyers and "the life", to 75 a pop, was over the top. But it wasn't meant to be vindictive. It's more of an observation of what this life can do to a girl, and you just happened to be the apparent example of it at the time. I have no excuse for the "I don't feel too sorry to take advantage" comment. But if we are going to be real, then that is often the reality from our end of this deal also.
If you had "the mongers plight in mind", then thank you. That takes a little heat off the 10 foot pole comment. How about this deal: I won't take the ten-foot pole comment as offensive if you accept my apology for the 75 a pop comment. And then maybe we both won't "listen to what everyone says" quite so much.
BTW, I hope your physical condition improves. Good luck.
Member #5710
09-21-10, 08:10
The fair was last week. While it may not be nationally or internationally known, it probably draws more people than any other fair in Michigan.
Meth county, go figure.
The fair is the only reason I can think of to go there. Don't know when it is though, or if it is already over. The one guy seemed like from out of country though, and I can't imagine that fair being that popular.
TwistedBrother
09-21-10, 16:53
So nice point by Sandy 007 and nice counterpoint, so to speak, by you, Loner 59. Hopefully at this point we all understand each other a little better and can help each other out and keep things in balance.
I agree. Don't listen to what everyone says. I hope you do understand the purpose of this board, which of course should not be to trash someone. But it IS in large part a vehicle for mongers to make better choices about providers, and that includes the bad along with the good. I do agree that it can go too far at times, but also quite often it is a guy just blowing off steam. Also, most comments on here are obviously meant for fellow mongers, and mostly not EVER intended to be personally harmful to an SP, since we generally don't think of you reading this board.
Most of us out here are NOT doctors and lawyers, and yes, I for one can get a little resentful that they normally get the girls like you. You know, the ones who "wouldn't touch most guys with a ten foot pole if the right amount of money wasn't on the table." How ironic that you would make that statement right after admonishing guys to "be grownups and keep those nasty comments to ourselves." I know you didn't or don't think that is such a nasty comment, because you characterize it as being "real". But would you make that statement to a client's face? There are a lot of potential clients here, who all may realize the truth of that statement, but may not now be inclined to visit you.
I understand hurtful things were said. And I understand my comment about doctors and lawyers and "the life", to 75 a pop, was over the top. But it wasn't meant to be vindictive. It's more of an observation of what this life can do to a girl, and you just happened to be the apparent example of it at the time. I have no excuse for the "I don't feel too sorry to take advantage" comment. But if we are going to be real, then that is often the reality from our end of this deal also.
If you had "the mongers plight in mind", then thank you. That takes a little heat off the 10 foot pole comment. How about this deal: I won't take the ten-foot pole comment as offensive if you accept my apology for the 75 a pop comment. And then maybe we both won't "listen to what everyone says" quite so much.
BTW, I hope your physical condition improves. Good luck.
Rolandwood88
09-22-10, 19:26
I was looking for an older women experience and came across this. It's one of those scams, a computer trying to get you to sign up for a website. Just thought this might help and save someone else some time.
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-divorced-mom-blonde-40-looking-to-meet-40/4872539
I would like to apologize for the 10 foot pole comment. I was hurt by some of the things written about me that were lies and I lashed out at a community of people who have for the most part been gracious to me and allowed me to live the lifestyle I do. For that I apologize. I didn't intend for that comment to come off that way and I would like to apologize.
Fat drunk and stupid?
Thats a real douchebag thing to say.
My xanga site that I kept as a 15-18 yr old was comprimised by an ex boyfriend I dumped for the atty. He hacked my site and wrote things like "I like to fuck married men, " "I do cocaine all day everyday, " etc. We went to court for two years, he was jailed for 8 months for the harassment.
I dated a lawyer and worked for him for a year or so. Thats what upset the ex and fueled the BS rumors on his part, and also the fact that I was working at a strip club.
I will willingly take a drug test TODAY to prove I do not use drugs, nor do I drink. I DO NOT use Vicodin. I actually called my mom and we had a good laugh at that. I suffer from Primary Biliary Cirrhosis, which is irritation and swelling (inflammation) of the bile ducts of the liver, which blocks the flow of bile. This obstruction damages liver cells. I CANNOT take any sort of prescription drug or even an aspirin without risking a visit to an ER. I also have Canal Stenosis, Degenerative Disc Disease, Facet Syndrome, and Scoliosis. I spend a significant chunk of the last 5 years fighting for the ability to walk and live a pain free life. The only medication I take is cholestyramine. I have a bad liver. I was hospitalized last week for four days because my kidneys were shutting down- a side effect of PBC. Anybody who is close to me knows just how bad it is. I'm on a waiting list for liver transplant, but then again, so is everyone and their mother. Will likely be critical in another 5 years or so.
I don't think I should have to spell my health issues out to a bunch of strangers who think I am just "fat drunk and stupid. " You know, it is really a testament to your character when you say such things about people when you don't know their situation.
Also, the picture that was painted of my life that was greener on the other side- getting gifts from doctors lawyers, etc. Let me set that straight for you also. My parents took out a second mortgage on one of their homes to help pay for a procedure that allowed me to walk again after 26 weeks. My doctor "donated" 7 weeks of treatment if I would accompany him on a tour of speaking engagements that demonstrated how his machine, the DRX900, worked.
Oh and if you call having your head smashed through a mahogany cupboard when your lawyer boyfriend got drunk, a great life, don't. Living over in those green acres was a hellish nightmare.
Don't say you feel bad for me. I am happy, I may be sick, but aside from that my life is good. I am making a killing while other girls are going up to 20days at a time without even one appointment. You may see my specials for $75, but I also advertise $200/hr on other sites, and everywhere in between. I pay a marketing consultant to take care of most of my advertising on private sites that are untapped, for the most part. I have great friends. I am able to walk today. I get to meet a lot of great people in this business that I genuinely have a great time with and build solid relationships with.
Don't listen to what everyone says. If you think I am fat and ugly, thats okay. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. But lets be grown ups and keep those nasty comments to ourselves. Lets be real here guys, truth be told, most SPs wouldn't touch most guys with a ten foot pole if the right amount of money wasn't on the table. You would think that you guys would see my $75 massage and think "wow, a provider with the monger's plight in mind! " But no, instead I am accused of being a drunk/drug addict.
To those who have stuck up for me, thank you. To the guy who directed me to the trash talking on here with the purpose of being able to defend myself, thank you also, and I will definitely be showing you my appreciation when our play date comes up! To everyone with a negative view of me, I am truly sorry you feel that way and I hope that in the future I am able to change that opinion of me.
Thank You for taking the time to read. God Bless.Quite a story! Your "doctor" who "donated" 7 weeks of treatment is a chiropractor? Glad he has been able to help you walk again, are you saying you spent 26 weeks in a wheelchair before you began visiting this doctor? I'm surprised with all your back trouble you are still up for some vigorous sexual games. Most people with back trouble as severe as you describe would be a lousy lay.
TwistedBrother
09-23-10, 08:51
Thanks ... usually if they request an IM contact by yahoo or AIM, that's a good sign it's a scam. Most real SP's go by phone.
I was looking for an older women experience and came across this. It's one of those scams, a computer trying to get you to sign up for a website. Just thought this might help and save someone else some time.
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-divorced-mom-blonde-40-looking-to-meet-40/4872539
Member #3987
09-23-10, 10:38
Thanks ... usually if they request an IM contact by yahoo or AIM, that's a good sign it's a scam. Most real SP's go by phone.You are absolutely right, Brother. There are a few here and there (but not many) who have tried using email or IM to set things up, especially CL girls. But I steer clear of any ad without a phone number. There is actually a recent posting on BP saying "don't email until you are ready for a date". Right, and if she is legit, by the time she even sees your email you've already found someone else.
Pity about the scam though. Whoever that woman is (pics swiped from another SP, obviously) I would pay to do the hell out of her.
Member #5710
09-23-10, 10:45
I checked that one out awhile back knowing that it would probably be a scam. I was right.
I was looking for an older women experience and came across this. It's one of those scams, a computer trying to get you to sign up for a website. Just thought this might help and save someone else some time.
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/gorgeous-divorced-mom-blonde-40-looking-to-meet-40/4872539
Member #3987
09-23-10, 10:47
I would like to apologize for the 10 foot pole comment. I was hurt by some of the things written about me that were lies and I lashed out at a community of people who have for the most part been gracious to me and allowed me to live the lifestyle I do. For that I apologize. I didn't intend for that comment to come off that way and I would like to apologize.I can't say that I necessarily speak for the whole board, but thank you. The comment wasn't really that bad, and I could see from the context that you didn't think of it as being that hurtful.
Very nice of you to apologize, and I certainly hope you will ignore the post above yours.
Member #3987
09-23-10, 11:43
Quite a story! Your "doctor" who "donated" 7 weeks of treatment is a chiropractor? Glad he has been able to help you walk again, are you saying you spent 26 weeks in a wheelchair before you began visiting this doctor? I'm surprised with all your back trouble you are still up for some vigorous sexual games. Most people with back trouble as severe as you describe would be a lousy lay.
Google DRX9000 (Sandy typo'd it as DRX900). It is a spinal decompression machine. I have heard of them, they only developed them in the last 5 years or so, so the timing makes sense for a demo tour.
I have scoliosis (not severe) and I have two brothers with degenerative disc disease. "Back trouble" of this type is excruciating when you are going through it, but both of my brothers are mostly pain-free now. And I happen to know they are banging the hell out of their wives.
Although I cannot say that Sandy's "story" is true, I can say that this particular part of it makes sense. And she has been considerate enough to apologize for a slightly offensive remark.
I think we would all do better to stick to info that we know to be true. If you personally had a session with Sandy and she was a "lousy lay" then that would be fair game. But I don't think this site is here just for attacking SPs or mongers. It is to enable mongers to make better choices about SPs.
I don't mean to be rude. I don't know you and you are probably a very nice person. But based on the info I just provided I think she is being truthful, and if you are just throwing out accusations, well then, Sandy was gracious enough to apologize for her statement, if you get my drift.
My purpose here is not to attack you, and if you feel that I am then I apologize. I just think that if we allow bad info to go out on good SPs, then they may eventually go away and all we will be left with are the bad ones, and nobody profits from that (except the bad SPs).
Again, I hope you do not take this as a personal attack, it is not intended that way. I just want us all to better be able to reach our goal of finding more and better SPs.
Like Bob Seger said: "I used her, she used me, and neither one cared.
We were gettin' our share, workin' on the night moves."
TwistedBrother
09-23-10, 13:02
Regardless of what you think of the story's truth, it's not a good thing for us to perpetuate flaming wars on here. A provider's response to a review, and another response or so are understandable at times, but to take it beyond that is beyond the purpose of the board and should be done privately, IMHO. So let's do that.
Quite a story!
Member #3987
09-23-10, 13:47
Now, boys and girls, back to the real purpose of this forum: the who, what, where and when of getting laid!
Heading home from work about 7:30 this morning, at the last minute got off 131 onto to 44th St. and headed to Division, just to test Sparty's theory of no sw's on school mornings. Two blocks north of 44th, at the grocery, a brunette in blue jeans, with her hair put up. I almost didn't stop, because she looked a little too "street" for my preferences. I am really glad I stopped. Pulled down the side street and into the lot, and she was quickly making a beeline for my door. (BTW, approaches have been mentioned here before. I simply get good eye contact, get my vehicle in close proximity, and as the sw approaches, I reach over and unlock the door. Simple, short and sweet.)
Her name is Ash. Actually, she told me, it is Ashley Lee, but she uses Ash because "all the guys know so many Ashley's". She is young, 24. She may or may not have a nice body hiding under those frumpy clothes (the jeans fit her ass and thighs, but were like 10 sizes too long. No exaggeration. When she put them back on later, there was like an extra 2 feet she had to pull up.) and although she is not unattractive, she is not what I would call especially attractive, either. She has one of those faces where one moment you think she is kind of cute, and then the next maybe a little plain. But she smiles a lot, which always helps, and is very friendly (I know I say that about most of the girls, and some of it may be because I am just very easy-going and they pick up on that and are relaxed). Her hair is medium to dark brown, very sexy either put up or down, and dark brown eyes. She has some acne, but I think it is more due to diet and age than anything else. And it is not a lot and does not distract at all.
I have nowhere to go except my home, which I have said before is quite a ways from Division. She says she knows a place, but I say I don't really like doing it parked, but she says she means the place she is staying. She points me in the right direction, and I am still weighing in my mind whether I want to go there or not since I am always wary of that situation with a sw. As we are getting closer she tells me her roommate(s) are either not there or we can't disturb him or them. If that seems a little confusing, well, I was confused too. She is a talker, about a mile a minute, and the words can come out so fast it is hard to keep up or know if she is making total sense sometimes. Haven't made up my mind yet whether that is drug-induced or not. But back to the roomie situation, she says we have to use the garage. This is just as we are pulling up, and I think we are going to park in the garage, and I am thinking no way am I going to go for that, but she says pull over to the curb. The house is across the street from us, and it is a very respectable looking house, certainly not a crack house or pimp hideout or anything like that. Just a nice suburban home, so now I am a little more at ease and think I will go along a little more.
We go into the garage and it is a typical garage with no room to park a car. I was expecting maybe she had a room in there, but there is just a chair. Kind of a wing-back armchair, very nicely upholstered and clean. Very clean. I am surprised. I answer her "what do you want to do" with "half and half". She says okay, that's 60. I open my wallet and there is only 42. Nothing else hidden anywhere, that is all I had on me. She says "Okay, I can do that". She doesn't just say it. She says it cheerfully. Almost like she is happier with the 42 than the 60 she asked for. By this point I am feeling really good about this deal. I was about to feel better. A lot better.
The frumpy clothes come off to reveal an incredible 24 year old body. She is probably 5'5" or 5'6" and I would guess about 110. Not too skinny (I don't like that). In fact, not even skinny at all. I would say thick, but that is not it either. Just a very healthy looking girl. She says she has a cheerleader's body, and I would agree except every cheerleader I ever new had thighs that were way too overdeveloped. Ash's body is perfect in every respect. Except she has a lot of scars. I would say she might be a cutter, except they usually do their arms a lot, and I didn't notice any scars there, although I have to confess I didn't really look at her arms much. The scars are not really distracting, either. They are old and well-healed, not red or discolored, but paler than the rest of her skin.
Now the second-best part. Her breasts. They are a good B-cup, and very perky and firm. I am not really what you would call a breast man, but they were getting a reaction out of mini-me that usually takes at least some physical stimulation. Nice, firm breasts (not hard, but firm) with pencil eraser nipples pointing up at my eyes. Her ass is nice, too. Nice and round. Nice and firm.
And now to my favorite part: a really nice pink p***y. No big flappy inner lips hanging out all over the place, but not a little girls p***y either. And a perfect cl*t poking out at the top. The lips are shaved, and up top is trimmed close. She smelled a little strong initially, but I think that is probably because someone else or two had been there since her last bath. She is a very clean girl.
I sit in the chair, and Ash goes down on me. She doesn't move her tongue at all, which to me is the mark of a stellar bj (oh yeah, bbbj) but she has just the right amount of suction, not scrape-y hard, but not just a lip-tease either. I am average, and she has no problem at all taking all of it. She is very good at this and just goes and goes and goes. I'm waiting for the 'jump-up "are you ready"' that usually comes way before I AM ready. But she goes long enough that I am just about to ask for the next level when she finally asks if I'm ready. (It's funny, because I expected an abbreviated date when we went from 60 to 42 in price. But she actually said before we started "take your time, I'm not doing anything else." She mentioned I was "kinda cute", and I have just enough ego to think that may have had something to do with it.)
We switch places, because she "doesn't like doing the work" (not many of them do, do they?) and I get into it and her. I could not tell how tight she was due to the cover she provided being the industrial heavy-duty extra-strength variety. Later I got a finger in and was surprised how tight she felt. Seemed kind of strange to me, because mini-me is definitely bigger than my finger. Anyway, CFS never does it for me for long, so we go back to BBBJ. Did I mention she's pretty good at that?
After another lengthy mouth session, I have her stand up in front of me while I handle matters myself. Did I mention her body f***in rocks? She twists around a little for me, says she should be dancing somewhere instead of doing this, but I don't know if that means she used to dance or not. She turns all the way around and bends over for me. Even her little b***hole is sexy. So sexy, I can't resist introducing it to my tongue. After a little of that I stand up behind her and rub my naked hoo-hah along her naked coochie but no entrance (I confess I did try one sneak attack - I know the risks, but after 30+ years of mongering it is harder and harder to convince me, being a single guy with no one that I would take anything home to).
Now I put her in the chair and stand in front of her, and she needs no prompting. She does it so good and with such enthusiasm and for so long that I start to feel guilty for taking advantage like this for the 42. Just not guilty enough to stop her.
Now the best part. I rarely get off with a partner at all anymore. At least not from her mouth or p***y or hands. To get to the final deal usually requires me to take matters into my own hands. But to my (pleasant) surprise, I realize it is going to happen for me with her. I don't want to get too graphic here (haha, too late now, huh?), but the only way to put this is: she was letting me f*** her face. And not just sitting there and taking it either. She was f***ing right back.
She got me there. And in the last 10 years I could count on one hand the number of times that has happened for me with oral. I could have lost my thumb and pinky in an industrial accident and STILL could count them on one hand. Ash was good. The only problem I had, and this is a problem with most women, is I am very sensitive during ejaculation, and any stimulation of the head can kill the intensity and pleasure. So I backed off at that point, but she just chased me with her mouth. So I backed off some more, and she chased me some more. So I said f*** it and let her take it all. Bless her heart.
Talking after, she mentioned she is going to class tonight at GVCC, and told me what courses she was taking. I don't think she was blowing smoke up my ass, and I wouldn't have minded that anyway. I have her digits, but didn't check with her about giving it out. I am going to see her again real soon, and will ask about that. I mention the college deal, and the nice house, just to establish that she seems very reliable.
Just took the time to call her right now, and she says only the guys I really trust. There are 2 or 3 on here that I feel comfortable with, so PM me if you think that's you. One other thing: on the phone she said she is trying to stay off the street and do more of an escort thing, with comparable pricing. She was kinda sleepy and a little hard to understand (she can be a little hard to understand anyway), but the general idea was like 100 for GFE and the 60 she asked from me was what she normally charges for a quicky, and 40 for BJ. But believe me, 40 for her BJ is pretty damn good. I can't get the picture of her open mouth chasing my rod out of my mind.
Member #5710
09-23-10, 15:31
Nice post Loner.
As for my "theory", I almost never see SWs out while the kids are walking to school or waiting for the bus to pick them up. I see them out prior to 7 am and again after 8 am but generally not while the kiddies are out and about. I admit though that I haven't been traveling as far south as where you found this one. Generally I'm turning around just past 36th.
In any case, I'll have to run through there a couple times in the near future to see what I can see.
Now, boys and girls, back to the real purpose of this forum: the who, what, where and when of getting laid!
Heading home from work about 7:30 this morning, at the last minute got off 131 onto to 44th St. and headed to Division, just to test Sparty's theory of no sw's on school mornings. Two blocks north of 44th, at the grocery, a brunette in blue jeans, with her hair put up. I almost didn't stop, because she looked a little too "street" for my preferences. I am really glad I stopped. Pulled down the side street and into the lot, and she was quickly making a beeline for my door. (BTW, approaches have been mentioned here before. I simply get good eye contact, get my vehicle in close proximity, and as the sw approaches, I reach over and unlock the door. Simple, short and sweet.)
Her name is Ash. Actually, she told me, it is Ashley Lee, but she uses Ash because "all the guys know so many Ashley's". She is young, 24. She may or may not have a nice body hiding under those frumpy clothes (the jeans fit her ass and thighs, but were like 10 sizes too long. No exaggeration. When she put them back on later, there was like an extra 2 feet she had to pull up.) and although she is not unattractive, she is not what I would call especially attractive, either. She has one of those faces where one moment you think she is kind of cute, and then the next maybe a little plain. But she smiles a lot, which always helps, and is very friendly (I know I say that about most of the girls, and some of it may be because I am just very easy-going and they pick up on that and are relaxed). Her hair is medium to dark brown, very sexy either put up or down, and dark brown eyes. She has some acne, but I think it is more due to diet and age than anything else. And it is not a lot and does not distract at all.
I have nowhere to go except my home, which I have said before is quite a ways from Division. She says she knows a place, but I say I don't really like doing it parked, but she says she means the place she is staying. She points me in the right direction, and I am still weighing in my mind whether I want to go there or not since I am always wary of that situation with a sw. As we are getting closer she tells me her roommate(s) are either not there or we can't disturb him or them. If that seems a little confusing, well, I was confused too. She is a talker, about a mile a minute, and the words can come out so fast it is hard to keep up or know if she is making total sense sometimes. Haven't made up my mind yet whether that is drug-induced or not. But back to the roomie situation, she says we have to use the garage. This is just as we are pulling up, and I think we are going to park in the garage, and I am thinking no way am I going to go for that, but she says pull over to the curb. The house is across the street from us, and it is a very respectable looking house, certainly not a crack house or pimp hideout or anything like that. Just a nice suburban home, so now I am a little more at ease and think I will go along a little more.
We go into the garage and it is a typical garage with no room to park a car. I was expecting maybe she had a room in there, but there is just a chair. Kind of a wing-back armchair, very nicely upholstered and clean. Very clean. I am surprised. I answer her "what do you want to do" with "half and half". She says okay, that's 60. I open my wallet and there is only 42. Nothing else hidden anywhere, that is all I had on me. She says "Okay, I can do that". She doesn't just say it. She says it cheerfully. Almost like she is happier with the 42 than the 60 she asked for. By this point I am feeling really good about this deal. I was about to feel better. A lot better.
The frumpy clothes come off to reveal an incredible 24 year old body. She is probably 5'5" or 5'6" and I would guess about 110. Not too skinny (I don't like that). In fact, not even skinny at all. I would say thick, but that is not it either. Just a very healthy looking girl. She says she has a cheerleader's body, and I would agree except every cheerleader I ever new had thighs that were way too overdeveloped. Ash's body is perfect in every respect. Except she has a lot of scars. I would say she might be a cutter, except they usually do their arms a lot, and I didn't notice any scars there, although I have to confess I didn't really look at her arms much. The scars are not really distracting, either. They are old and well-healed, not red or discolored, but paler than the rest of her skin.
Now the second-best part. Her breasts. They are a good B-cup, and very perky and firm. I am not really what you would call a breast man, but they were getting a reaction out of mini-me that usually takes at least some physical stimulation. Nice, firm breasts (not hard, but firm) with pencil eraser nipples pointing up at my eyes. Her ass is nice, too. Nice and round. Nice and firm.
And now to my favorite part: a really nice pink p***y. No big flappy inner lips hanging out all over the place, but not a little girls p***y either. And a perfect cl*t poking out at the top. The lips are shaved, and up top is trimmed close. She smelled a little strong initially, but I think that is probably because someone else or two had been there since her last bath. She is a very clean girl.
I sit in the chair, and Ash goes down on me. She doesn't move her tongue at all, which to me is the mark of a stellar bj (oh yeah, bbbj) but she has just the right amount of suction, not scrape-y hard, but not just a lip-tease either. I am average, and she has no problem at all taking all of it. She is very good at this and just goes and goes and goes. I'm waiting for the 'jump-up "are you ready"' that usually comes way before I AM ready. But she goes long enough that I am just about to ask for the next level when she finally asks if I'm ready. (It's funny, because I expected an abbreviated date when we went from 60 to 42 in price. But she actually said before we started "take your time, I'm not doing anything else." She mentioned I was "kinda cute", and I have just enough ego to think that may have had something to do with it.)
We switch places, because she "doesn't like doing the work" (not many of them do, do they?) and I get into it and her. I could not tell how tight she was due to the cover she provided being the industrial heavy-duty extra-strength variety. Later I got a finger in and was surprised how tight she felt. Seemed kind of strange to me, because mini-me is definitely bigger than my finger. Anyway, CFS never does it for me for long, so we go back to BBBJ. Did I mention she's pretty good at that?
After another lengthy mouth session, I have her stand up in front of me while I handle matters myself. Did I mention her body f***in rocks? She twists around a little for me, says she should be dancing somewhere instead of doing this, but I don't know if that means she used to dance or not. She turns all the way around and bends over for me. Even her little b***hole is sexy. So sexy, I can't resist introducing it to my tongue. After a little of that I stand up behind her and rub my naked hoo-hah along her naked coochie but no entrance (I confess I did try one sneak attack - I know the risks, but after 30+ years of mongering it is harder and harder to convince me, being a single guy with no one that I would take anything home to).
Now I put her in the chair and stand in front of her, and she needs no prompting. She does it so good and with such enthusiasm and for so long that I start to feel guilty for taking advantage like this for the 42. Just not guilty enough to stop her.
Now the best part. I rarely get off with a partner at all anymore. At least not from her mouth or p***y or hands. To get to the final deal usually requires me to take matters into my own hands. But to my (pleasant) surprise, I realize it is going to happen for me with her. I don't want to get too graphic here (haha, too late now, huh?), but the only way to put this is: she was letting me f*** her face. And not just sitting there and taking it either. She was f***ing right back.
She got me there. And in the last 10 years I could count on one hand the number of times that has happened for me with oral. I could have lost my thumb and pinky in an industrial accident and STILL could count them on one hand. Ash was good. The only problem I had, and this is a problem with most women, is I am very sensitive during ejaculation, and any stimulation of the head can kill the intensity and pleasure. So I backed off at that point, but she just chased me with her mouth. So I backed off some more, and she chased me some more. So I said f*** it and let her take it all. Bless her heart.
Talking after, she mentioned she is going to class tonight at GVCC, and told me what courses she was taking. I don't think she was blowing smoke up my ass, and I wouldn't have minded that anyway. I have her digits, but didn't check with her about giving it out. I am going to see her again real soon, and will ask about that. I mention the college deal, and the nice house, just to establish that she seems very reliable.
Just took the time to call her right now, and she says only the guys I really trust. There are 2 or 3 on here that I feel comfortable with, so PM me if you think that's you. One other thing: on the phone she said she is trying to stay off the street and do more of an escort thing, with comparable pricing. She was kinda sleepy and a little hard to understand (she can be a little hard to understand anyway), but the general idea was like 100 for GFE and the 60 she asked from me was what she normally charges for a quicky, and 40 for BJ. But believe me, 40 for her BJ is pretty damn good. I can't get the picture of her open mouth chasing my rod out of my mind.
I agree with you about Ashley. She aims to please. I belive whatever she uses her money for she needs 40 to get it. She told me she's not on crack so she doesn't do cheap dates as she needs 40 for whatever. Her ache is pretty bad if you get a look at it in the light. I like her attitude and she works hard for repeat business. She lives on the street that borders Brauns on Division(Thurston I believe). She lives with her mother.
Mike Yepthatsm
09-24-10, 20:42
Now I have seen her three times over the past couple of years. The first time I saw her was at her incall in GR near the highway. It was a french only apt, and it went better than I expected. She had numerous negative reviews on one of the local boards (she went by the name ashilian or something similar). I decided to give her a try. She looked good, just like her pics. Her french skills were great. I decided to see her again a month or so later. I asked if she would do greek, and she said "butt play was an extra 50". I paid for an hour apt with greek. She started with a BBBJ, then doggie. When I asked if she was ready to try greek, she said she doesn't want to. At that point I was a little confused. She then started to rush me to finish. The hour apt ended in just over 30 minutes and I paid for services she wouldn't do. Instead of making a big deal I left and decided I wouldn't be seeing her again.
This past summer I saw a post on one of the local boards for Sandy 007. Her pics looked good (they were fake pics, certainly not her). When I arrived to her apt I was disappointed when she came to the door. She didn't remember me. I decided to go through with the apt. This apt was the worst. She gave me a very rushed BJ, then said she could only do mish as her back pain was out of control. This last apt may have been one of the worst I had with an escort.
I also know for a fact she has/had a drug problem. During the first apt as I was getting dressed we were talking and she showed me some pictures and video she took of her and a friend after they did acid.
For me, there are better providers out there that provide a consistent level of service.
Kevinscott
09-25-10, 09:48
Wow. What a picture that blog is. From "the life", whatever she meant by that, with judges and lawyers and doctors who bought her expensive gifts to 75 a pop today. I feel kinda bad for her, but not too bad to take advantage, hehe. Not going to try to be her boytoy though. They apparently turn to shitheads in short order!I met with her last Sunday. She certainly does not look the same as in her Blog. She has put on a few pounds, but was very nice and accomidating. FS for $95. CBJ and Doggy finish. Not bad but would not repeat.
Ks
Member #3987
09-26-10, 14:32
Here are a couple pics to go with the report of a couple days ago. She is cool with me posting these, but because of LE concerns doesn't want her face fully revealed. I have a couple face pics, and I could PM them to anyone interested, but have no idea how to do that on PM, as it does not give me the option to attach files. Any help?
Correction, one pic. Having major upload/download problems with my PC, will try to repost with the other pic.
Thanks to Loner 59 for the referral.
Ash is a very sweet young girl. Rockin young bod and great easy going friendly attitude. Acne issue is there but trust me you'll not even notice this as her attitude, body and skills overcome anything else.
No muss no fuss no drama no BS. Been quite some time since I could state that after a date lately. No rush and focus was on me.
Not a hoover but very good still. Finish - well Loner 59 said it earlier. She goes out of her way to get every drop.
Tipped her a smidge xtra and was off.
I will see her again.
Here are a couple pics to go with the report of a couple days ago. She is cool with me posting these, but because of LE concerns doesn't want her face fully revealed. I have a couple face pics, and I could PM them to anyone interested, but have no idea how to do that on PM, as it does not give me the option to attach files. Any help?
Correction, one pic. Having major upload/download problems with my PC, will try to repost with the other pic.
Member #5710
09-29-10, 11:54
well I'm not sure what to say.
I found this on a forum board from Hawaii.
RoadWarrior615
09-29-10, 16:47
I would like to apologize for the 10 foot pole comment. I was hurt by some of the things written about me that were lies and I lashed out at a community of people who have for the most part been gracious to me and allowed me to live the lifestyle I do. For that I apologize. I didn't intend for that comment to come off that way and I would like to apologize.This girl is living in LALA land.. Come back to reality with us.
All the time I been in streets in the game hooked doctors lawyers up with girls, I have to this day never heard or saw what you be describing with a girl of your looks.
Now i'm not saying your ugly but your not the perfect blonde on the beach with a killer body.
Sorry I just dont believe you at all.
I am coming to GR next week and looking for any recommendations on who the best providers are. Will have $$ in the budget.
Any insight will be appreciated
Member #3987
09-29-10, 23:20
This girl is living in LALA land.. Come back to reality with us.
All the time I been in streets in the game hooked doctors lawyers up with girls, I have to this day never heard or saw what you be describing with a girl of your looks.
Now i'm not saying your ugly but your not the perfect blonde on the beach with a killer body.
Sorry I just dont believe you at all.I shouldn't respond to this, but what the hell. Her blog from several years back show her looking quite different, and in my opinion hot enough to hook up with doctors and lawyers. And if you check some of her posts on there I think her story is convincing enough.
http://littlehams.xanga.com/
I am coming to GR next week and looking for any recommendations on who the best providers are. Will have $$ in the budget.
Any insight will be appreciated
You will/can definitely get some recommendation in public here or through private, if you and new members like you, have anything to give back to people like me.
I read one senior member post from detroit and I agree with him, some folks like me, took our time on the street and our vehicle too and you new guys or you guys with few post, come out here to ask for information and you guys refuse to say if you are willing to share back to us.
I have gotten at least five members with few posts, asking me for information and when I ask them that, what are they going to give me in return, they refuse to answer back.
So mike644 and others like you with few post, what reliable information do you have to share with us here in the open or private.
Thanks
Member #5710
09-30-10, 11:18
If you some research on this page and a couple others for GR, you are bound to come up with those answers all on your own.
I am coming to GR next week and looking for any recommendations on who the best providers are. Will have $$ in the budget.
Any insight will be appreciated
Had a good time with Holly, as usual. She really knows how to get a man turned on. She looks good, but with a workout regimen she'd look great.
Also saw Sol Marie walking south on Division, just south of 28th. She was looking great in her black leotard! Wonder if she's shaved, now. That huge bush was more than I could take, last time.
If you some research on this page and a couple others for GR, you are bound to come up with those answers all on your own.Sparty,
Have you read the guys post before this?. Atleast you sparty and some others like you too, your first post, you where willing to share information alot in your first post and look at loner57.
Loner57, might still be a newbie, but at least he post reliable information and he shared a number with me, without him needing anything back from me.
If anyone wants to make it easy for LE and them boso kind, you guys should go ahead.
I don't really need any number from anyone, since I got my boys and I know how to use the chatline to my own advantage.
Am just trying to help any good newbie or those with few post, if they really want answers to there question and by the way, mike644 first post was in indiana and I think some area in indiana is a little bit very hot right now.
Member #3987
09-30-10, 23:39
Had a good time with Holly, as usual. She really knows how to get a man turned on. She looks good, but with a workout regimen she'd look great.
Also saw Sol Marie walking south on Division, just south of 28th. She was looking great in her black leotard! Wonder if she's shaved, now. That huge bush was more than I could take, last time.Hey Grmojo.
I thought I saw Sol Marie earlier on Division. Was she wearing a jacket or sweater or some kind of top with the leotards. Also, her hair seemed longer than I remembered and it was in a ponytail. I do not know for sure if this was Sol Marie or not, as she was walking with another girl, and not behaving as if she were on the stroll.
Did SM look like that when you saw her? The other girl was hispanic also, and nice looking. If they work together I'd probably go for a double dip of that.
Member #5710
10-01-10, 08:51
Yes I did read his other post and it didn't seem very informative.
I have to say though that I don't think I actually contributed anything until my third post and it wasn't until I had posted numerous times that I asked anyone for anything. To me it seemed to be the right way to do things.
If this guy had 15 or 20 posts in his area with good information, I probably would have shared some info with him (maybe also I would have contacted a frequent poster in that area to verify that he shares solid info via PM).
As I mentioned to someone else, I don't pay too much attention to whether someone is a regular or senior member. It's the quality of the posts and PMs that count for me. Loner 59 has shared good info publicly and privately. The only reason he isn't a senior member is that he hasn't hit the 6 month mark.
Sparty,
Have you read the guys post before this?. Atleast you sparty and some others like you too, your first post, you where willing to share information alot in your first post and look at loner57.
Loner57, might still be a newbie, but at least he post reliable information and he shared a number with me, without him needing anything back from me.
If anyone wants to make it easy for LE and them boso kind, you guys should go ahead.
I don't really need any number from anyone, since I got my boys and I know how to use the chatline to my own advantage.
Am just trying to help any good newbie or those with few post, if they really want answers to there question and by the way, mike644 first post was in indiana and I think some area in indiana is a little bit very hot right now.
Member #5710
10-01-10, 09:49
OK, so yesterday I'm at work dreaming that after what I had read publicly and privately, I should really meet Ashley. Can't really call her because there are too many ears here. So in my dream, I send her a text and drop a name that she knows and ask about meeting this morning. A couple texts back and forth and it's all set up.
A little while later she sends me a text and says she has a room with a friend and they are looking for company. Sounded fine to me but alas it was a busy day and couldn't get the extra time for lunch. I text her to say I can't. Then toward the end of the work day she sends a text asking when I get out of work. I send back to let her know that after work is not possible and my only free time is in the morning. While the text messages were a little annoying, it was partially my fault that I didn't let her know right away that mornings are my only free time.
So, on to this morning. In my dream I called about 30 minutes prior to arrival and for being early she is quite cheerful. I met her at the house where she stays. She makes no mention of who's house it is but directs me into the garage. It is as Loner says, no room for a car, clean wing backed chair, etc. I ask for half and half for 0.50. She agrees but as with Loner, she says I will have to do the work. I act like I'm a bit put off and she says she normally gets 0.80 if she has to do the work (uh huh).
Any way, we free ourselves of the confines of our clothes and I sit down. Her breasts are nice and perky and because it's cold in the garage those eraser nips are standing tall. The rest of her looks good too and while the scars are odd, they are not distracting. They appear more like surgical scars or maybe someone cut her with a knife years ago. She does have a space heater in the garage pointed at the chair and it does take a bit of the chill out of the air.
She kneels down in front of me and starts the french lesson. Yeah, that's pretty nice. She does this little head twist on the way up that adds a nice visual. Now for me, the mark of a really good french lesson is when the lady treats Mr. Happy like an ice cream cone and pays attention to his two friends down below. Alas, it's just bobbing up and down. Don't get me wrong, it felt really good but I was expecting more based on comments here.
Did I mention that it was cold in the garage? After about 5 minutes of french the space heater shuts off. Mr. Happy feels the chill and reacts accordingly. Mr. Happy does not like to be cold. She turns a switch on the heater and continues on and Mr, Happy is....well, happy.
So now onto the other half. The cover goes on and she is doggie in the chair. She is nice and snug and feels great but she's not at the right height for me so I have to squat. Still it feels really good and she seems to be responding. As we're going on I notice that she smells strong, really strong. (there goes the DATY I had planned on). It's beginning to turn me off so I say that we should finish with french and she is quite happy and enthusiastic about that.
The french is still only a head bob but with different pressure points now and the point of no return is reached. As others have said, she is good to the last drop.
Ashley has an outgoing and friendly attitude and is eager to please. For me her french skills are a 7 on a scale of 1 -10. Next time I will guide her to the way I like and I'm sure that the score will go up. I have heard that she wants to take this to the next level and "go pro". If she is going to do that, there are two things she needs to do. First (and most obvious), she needs to move things out of the garage and into a bedroom. Second (and probably equally obvious), she needs to keep the kitty clean and fresh.
Overall, I will repeat but at the moment only for french.
Hey Grmojo.
I thought I saw Sol Marie earlier on Division. Was she wearing a jacket or sweater or some kind of top with the leotards. Also, her hair seemed longer than I remembered and it was in a ponytail. I do not know for sure if this was Sol Marie or not, as she was walking with another girl, and not behaving as if she were on the stroll.
Did SM look like that when you saw her? The other girl was hispanic also, and nice looking. If they work together I'd probably go for a double dip of that.
I only saw Sol Marie. Her hair was in a bun, and I think she wore a vest with her leotard. She looked like she was trying to draw a little attention.
Member #3987
10-01-10, 15:44
She kneels down in front of me and starts the french lesson. Yeah, that's pretty nice. She does this little head twist on the way up that adds a nice visual. Now for me, the mark of a really good french lesson is when the lady treats Mr. Happy like an ice cream cone and pays attention to his two friends down below. Alas, it's just bobbing up and down. Don't get me wrong, it felt really good but I was expecting more based on comments here.
So now onto the other half. The cover goes on and she is doggie in the chair. She is nice and snug and feels great but she's not at the right height for me so I have to squat. Still it feels really good and she seems to be responding. As we're going on I notice that she smells strong, really strong. (there goes the DATY I had planned on). It's beginning to turn me off so I say that we should finish with french and she is quite happy and enthusiastic about that.
Ashley has an outgoing and friendly attitude and is eager to please. For me her french skills are a 7 on a scale of 1 -10. Next time I will guide her to the way I like and I'm sure that the score will go up. I have heard that she wants to take this to the next level and "go pro". If she is going to do that, there are two things she needs to do. First (and most obvious), she needs to move things out of the garage and into a bedroom. Second (and probably equally obvious), she needs to keep the kitty clean and fresh.I agree about the french. Don't recall if I mentioned it was just the head bob, because I really like a more active tongue myself, but for what it was it was good. I do agree that she would probably improve with some instruction, since she does seem to be more enthusiastic about that.
I think I mentioned the smell, but when I saw her it went away fairly quickly. Although she likes morning dates, I think that she has been up all night working, and so an early morning shower would probably be in order.
One thing to watch for. She may feel free to call if she has your number. She has called me quite often, but it is partially because I have made it clear it is okay with me (no wife). Don't know if that is her normal M.O., but I'm thinking it is possible since you mentioned the texting. I am seeing her tonight after work, and will probably mention that to her.
Member #3987
10-01-10, 23:33
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/looking-to-get-ur-milf-on-grapis-inoutcall-616-558-7051-27/4917018
I'm amazed how some girls just can't figure out how to get a pic right-side up. Oh well, the last two pics make up for it. A little confusing, though. The "helping hand" comment would suggest manual, but the last pic definitely implies FS. FS pricing, certainly.
Has she posted on BP before? The pic is unfamiliar, but the mis-spelling of gentlemen ("Gentalmen") and it's capitalization. I know I have seen it exactly like that on BP before. So I wonder if it is one girl or a service.
Is it just me, or is BP filling up with a lot of crap lately? Seems harder and harder to wade through every time. I guess more SPs are posting, which should be a good thing, variety-wise. But seems like most of it is just a lot of the same SPs (or scams) reposting, with a lot of formats all looking the same. Wish more SPs would develop a distinctive posting style that is recognizable. Too many girls with the same 2 or 3 sentences makes it too difficult to tell one from another, especially with so many of them running headless shots.
This one has no name, which doesn't help. Any help on her?
Pet Peeve: 20something girls shouldn't get to classify themselves as MILFs.
Member #5710
10-02-10, 08:21
I've seen her ads before but with different pics. I remember doing some research, googling her phone number, etc. Seems like there was one other girl connected to the number on one or two posts but mostly this one. I've thought about it too.
A couple links I could find quickly are here (need to put the dashes in the phone number when doing the search. It takes the number of crap hits way down)...
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/naughty-bella/4070893
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-and-naughtybella/3972412
http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/alexis/4690923
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/looking-to-get-ur-milf-on-grapis-inoutcall-616-558-7051-27/4917018
I'm amazed how some girls just can't figure out how to get a pic right-side up. Oh well, the last two pics make up for it. A little confusing, though. The "helping hand" comment would suggest manual, but the last pic definitely implies FS. FS pricing, certainly.
Has she posted on BP before? The pic is unfamiliar, but the mis-spelling of gentlemen ("Gentalmen") and it's capitalization. I know I have seen it exactly like that on BP before. So I wonder if it is one girl or a service.
Is it just me, or is BP filling up with a lot of crap lately? Seems harder and harder to wade through every time. I guess more SPs are posting, which should be a good thing, variety-wise. But seems like most of it is just a lot of the same SPs (or scams) reposting, with a lot of formats all looking the same. Wish more SPs would develop a distinctive posting style that is recognizable. Too many girls with the same 2 or 3 sentences makes it too difficult to tell one from another, especially with so many of them running headless shots.
This one has no name, which doesn't help. Any help on her?
Pet Peeve: 20something girls shouldn't get to classify themselves as MILFs.
This is Bella.
I've seen her.
Nice girl, usually very willing and talented.
I've seen her ads before but with different pics. I remember doing some research, googling her phone number, etc. Seems like there was one other girl connected to the number on one or two posts but mostly this one. I've thought about it too.
A couple links I could find quickly are here (need to put the dashes in the phone number when doing the search. It takes the number of crap hits way down)...
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/naughty-bella/4070893
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-and-naughtybella/3972412
http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/alexis/4690923
This is bella, I've seen here before.
A good SP.
Member #3987
10-02-10, 23:27
I've seen her ads before but with different pics. I remember doing some research, googling her phone number, etc. Seems like there was one other girl connected to the number on one or two posts but mostly this one. I've thought about it too.
A couple links I could find quickly are here (need to put the dashes in the phone number when doing the search. It takes the number of crap hits way down)...
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/naughty-bella/4070893
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/new-and-naughtybella/3972412
http://detroit.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/alexis/4690923I have seen Bella's ads before, her pictures were nice but never enough to send me over the edge. For some reason, I didn't recognize her pic in the ad I posted here. And now that ad has been removed. Don't know if she removed it, or if BP did because they have their new rule about posting obscene pics (which I totally disagree with, a nice vagina shot has convinced me to call an SP plenty of times). Maybe they thought the dildo/vagina shot was obscene, although they normally just delete the one pic.
Member #3987
10-03-10, 00:16
after not being able to hook up with ash today, i was looking for a suitable replacement. recalled grmojo's recent post on holly, who i had only seen once before but was pleased with her looks, attitude and bj.
since i had gotten a number from her, i gave her a call. got a message about how she had lost her phone again but to leave a message and she would call back within an hour. yeah, right, i thought. i seem to remember a monger posting something similar about her voice mail a month or so back.) but i left a message anyway. within 15 minutes my phone was ringing with her name on the screen. cool.
after the disappointment with ash, i wanted to see holly asap. she said give her fifteen or twenty minutes to clean up and gave me a location to meet her on 28th west of 131. i showed up a couple minutes late, and didn't see her. gave her a call and got the same message but before i could hang up she was beeping in on the other line, and i went to meet her a block away as she was on her way.
she looked nice getting in my vehicle, i had forgotten how pretty she actually is. she has very nice eyes. she had agreed to come with me to my place, and we had a nice conversation on the way. she is very easy to talk to, and her slightly freckly face is very pleasant to look at.
i told her a couple mongering horror stories from my past, she told me of a recent experience (in the last couple days i believe) in which she believed she was being stalked. apparently, on a couple of car dates someone followed her in an suv (i don't normally identify vehicles, if you notice i always say "vehicle", especially when talking about my own. i don't want le knowing whether i am in a car, truck, suv, van, or whatever out there. but this guy, if it is a guy, deserves to be identified if her story is true). she did the car dates at the same location, and this guy would approach quietly with lights off and then suddenly turn them on. i confess i only half listened to most of her story, so there may be some other reason she thinks this person is stalking her, and not just someone trying to cause trouble for any random monger or sw on the streets. keep your eyes open (if you don't already, and i'm sure most of you street-wise mongers do) and make sure that if you park it is in a safe place.
anyway, back to holly. at my place, the clothes come off and i do see why grmojo feels she would do better to tone up some, she has a few extra pounds and some stretch marks that would indicate she may have lost some weight already (maybe from a pregnancy, she told me her first boyfriend, who was 28, got her pregnant at 15. i know if i got an **** girl pregnant i would probably be posting this from a prison cell right now. but i bet she looked super hot at 15.)
holly is so much fun in the sack, that you really don't think much about the stretch marks once you are into things. grmojo indicates that is usual with holly, and i may be inclined to agree. my first date with her was just a parked bj, but she didn't mind my fingers wandering up her skirt and into her hole at all. and she sat back and played with herself some before the date was through. i didn't ask for it, she just did it. she did the same thing today, which is really nice. all in all, i would say holly is pretty close to a total gfe. she didn't mind french kissing, although we didn't go deep (i think she felt a little self-conscious, because she mentioned that she hadn't brushed her teeth. i didn't say anything, but i didn't mind at all.)
she has a super-nice p***y, trimmed close on top and shaved around the lips. nice and pink and clean, which meant i couldn't resist daty. don't know if she actually got off, but if she didn't she is a much more convincing actress than 99% of the girls i have been with. i'll just say she doesn't just lay there. and the same for fs. appropriate vocalization without being phony or over the top, and lots of grabbing and squirming. add to that a pretty good bj (although without any tongue action. it surprises me how many girls don't know how to or just don't want to use their tongue.) and it was a pretty damn good date.
i like my "house" dates, because i am way more comfortable, and it seems as though the girls usually are, also. holly gets 9 gold stars out of 10 for performance, and she would get 10 is she improved her already good oral skills. and in my book, she gets a 7-8 out of ten for looks, mostly because her face is just so cute and sexy all at once. nice breasts and legs, but the midsection does need some toning up. having said that, i will certainly see much, much more of her. toned up or not, she is still way hot in my book. and add to that her friendly, easy-going attitude. she gets an 11 out of 10 for that.
Member #3987
10-03-10, 00:24
This is Bella.
I've seen her.
Nice girl, usually very willing and talented.Willing and talented goes a long, long way in my book.
Hey fellas I'm a guy in Lansing who had the oppurtunity to meet a wonderful young lady when she came to visit this area and as a favor to her I told her that I would post her ad on this site and tell you how great she is and she is GREAT even if everything is covered. She also does duos however I don't know who her DUO partner is. But IF she is the girl that came down here with her on her trip don't even bother. The girl was BEAUTIFUL but I hate a ***** with a fucked up attitude. And a ghetto mentality. So I will post the link but Like I said Kelly is the BEST but her friends attitude is the WORST I have ever come across in any of my hobbying and I only mess with black girls so that says ALOT. Her friend just really pissed me off. With her attitude.
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/ms-pretty-kittyspecial-19/4592217
If my report on Ash mislead anyone - sorry.
When I said she's not a hoover but very good that was a bit overdone.
Not a hoover to me means not top 20 but get's the job done.
My biggest factors due to very limited mongering time and $$$ available are the no muss no fuss no bs and the SW pricing.
Frankly I hope she doesn't "go pro." For her BBBJ only rate she's at or slightly above SW rates. But for the SW's I've hooked up with the past year its constant BS. "You're taking too long hurry up" (and that makes it even longer now that I'm pissed off), or the games of trying to rifle my glove box or cash and dash etc. I'm seldom even a little happy with the service.
For her rates, cold garage I can live with since the attitude is great for the rate. CL girls (formerly now) often are rush happy clock watchers all too often at 2x the price or more.
I hadn't had the time for 50/50 yet with her so thanks for the heads up on the hygiene issue. I think I'll also stick with BBBJ then.
Also on that SUV mentioned slightly below my post here: Look back many pages in this forum for a reference to a white SUV being LE. I'd be VERY wary if I saw that.
Stay safe and thanks for the info.
She kneels down in front of me and starts the french lesson. Yeah, that's pretty nice. She does this little head twist on the way up that adds a nice visual. Now for me, the mark of a really good french lesson is when the lady treats Mr. Happy like an ice cream cone and pays attention to his two friends down below. Alas, it's just bobbing up and down. Don't get me wrong, it felt really good but I was expecting more based on comments here.
Did I mention that it was cold in the garage? After about 5 minutes of french the space heater shuts off. Mr. Happy feels the chill and reacts accordingly. Mr. Happy does not like to be cold. She turns a switch on the heater and continues on and Mr, Happy is....well, happy.
Ashley has an outgoing and friendly attitude and is eager to please. For me her french skills are a 7 on a scale of 1 -10. Next time I will guide her to the way I like and I'm sure that the score will go up. I have heard that she wants to take this to the next level and "go pro". If she is going to do that, there are two things she needs to do. First (and most obvious), she needs to move things out of the garage and into a bedroom. Second (and probably equally obvious), she needs to keep the kitty clean and fresh.
Overall, I will repeat but at the moment only for french.
Member #3987
10-04-10, 04:23
Ash:
Finally hooked up with Ash again, had her to my place and spent a little time with her. She used the bathroom to freshen up and we sat and talked for a while. She was very easy-going and fun to talk with, but she let me know she normally charges for such things, as she spent a couple hours with me altogether for no extra $$.
Things progressed to the bedroom, and her clothes came off to reveal that perfect 20something body (she thinks she needs to lose a little weight and I totally disagree). In profile, her breasts are amazing, with those sexy uplifted nipples (she actually seemed unaware of that and surprised when I pointed it out). The scars on her body are from another girl who cut her, which I find very sad. And, as pointed out before, they do not distract from her sexiness in any way.
We got down to business, which was mostly oral both ways. Ash is aware of the hygiene issue, and as I suspected, it is due to not being able to "freshen up" between dates if she is on the street. I think she is sufficiently aware of it now and will likely pay more attention to it. At any rate, we did an extended 69 session, and there was no odor beyond what is normal in that part of the body at all. The view from that position is not to be believed. She has a very sexy posterior, and one of the hotter little buttholes I have seen in a while. She gave a little moan now and then, but I don't feel that she was really that into what I was doing. When I licked her the first time I saw her she seemed much more responsive.
Her BBBJ skills, as already mentioned here, are quite good. And they ARE better than has been reported already. With most sw's I get to a point where I wish it were just over with because I get bored. I am never bored in Ash's mouth. But when I suggested a couple other techniques, she told me she knew how to do all of them. But because of a recent breakup with a bf, these things reminded her of him and they just seemed too personal to her. I have a few persuasive skills, and Ash likes me a little (not love like, but I am a pretty nice guy, and easy to get along with, which always serves me well with SPs) so she went ahead and did some of those things. She does them very, very well. In particular the maneuver where she lays mini-me against my belly and runs her open mouth and tongue up and down the underside, with plenty of pole-pleasing pressure. Damn, that's good.
I finish with a little dry-humping between her legs, both from behind and in mish. No f***ing because mini-me just doesn't get along with rubbers. All in all, a very good date.
I don't think the garage situation is going to change soon, she mentioned someone was trying to get her a couch for that. For those who do not like the garage, I do know that she often uses a motel, but good luck guessing which days those might be. I actually think she uses the garage more. That may change. As I said before, she is wanting to advertise, and was actually on the phone with another girl who is putting an ad up for her, I assume on BP. As far as pricing is concerned, I think she is probably wanting to go up some for that type of date (FS escort). When I told her that I had first reported here that she asked me for 60 for half-and-half the first time (which she did ask for), she told me that she always charges 80 for that. Sorry for the bad news, I hope that she will still be reasonable for her bjs.
Lisa:
After dropping Ash at her home, I drove north on Division, just curious to see who might be out walking at 12:30 a.m. Up near the mexican mercado, there was a blonde sw who looked way too good to be an sw. I read a report here about a month ago from a monger who was out early in the day (Sparty?) and saw a blonde milf/40something sw in a jean skirt with shoulder length hair and super-hot. This may be her. I wasn't really looking, having just finished with Ash. But this girl looked so good, walking down the street in stripper/fuck-me heels, that I circled the block and came back around just in time to see another monger had cut through the parking lot with the same idea as me. He had to wait on me, and she had seen either me or him and was walking our way. He pulled out right behind me, and I will never pick up an sw with another vehicle right behind me, so I pulled back onto Division and headed north. In my rear-view, I saw the other monger going south on Division, and he could not have had enough time to pick her up, so I circled back again. This time there were a couple other cars in the lot, and although I can't be sure they were mongers, I think they were. But I pulled straight up to her, she jumped in, and we were off.
Lisa looks way too hot to be on the street at all. If you look at the banner ad on this page for Escortguide, a picture of a blonde sp will flash. It is the blonde with the close-up head shot, with one brick wall and one red wall in the background. Lisa looks very much like that. She tells me she is out on the street once in a while, used to advertise on CL, and is thinking about advertising on BP. I didn't have the time to take her home, and there is a friend at her motel room. She says she can let the friend use her car to go somewhere so we can have the room to ourselves, but I did not want to have to go through all of that, so we agree to park. And although I hate parking, when I do, I use a "hide in plain sight" tactic. I park in an area where a passerby is not likely to see us, but also not obviously trying to hide from LE, and certainly far enough away from the "stroll" that a parked vehicle with two people in it would not arouse LE suspicion.
She wants 40 for BBBJ, and although I know I want it to be a quicky, I agree because she is just so freaking hot and I really need to see that face in my lap, and that sexy mouth all over me. She is quite cooperative in that regard, making plenty of eye contact, which is hot enough that I disregard the otherwise average bj. She may do better under other circumstances, and she seemed as though she would be willing to be more creative if I asked. But I didn't. Like I said, I just had finished with Ash. So I asked her if she would sit back and let me look at her. She immediately sat up and hooked her left fuck-me shoe over the seat back, pulled her panties to the side, and began rubbing herself -- something I had not asked for but certainly was not complaining about.
After a bit, I got my mouth down there. She made a few appropriate noises, but I will have to do this to her again for a more extended period to make a judgement as to whether this was for my benefit or hers. And I will find out Monday afternoon, as I arranged to have her come by my place for seconds. I will let you know how that goes.
Did I mention how hot Lisa is? Surely some other monger here has seen her, as long as she has been working in this area, and can back me up on this. Can't say how good her body is at 40, but she has kick-ass legs, and the rest of it looked pretty good clothed. She is certainly not overweight, but I have no idea about firmness. Nice sized breasts, probably a C, and really good nipples (if you see her there is no need to tell her how good her nipples are, as I and apparently every other man who has been with her has told her the same thing. It will be nice to see them in the light.).
Unpredictability:
After the parking date, I took Lisa back to her car on Division. Now I have been on Division at all times of the day or night and on every day of the week. And I am usually (very) disappointed. I have posted here about the successes I have met with, but if you add them up and compare to the number of times I have cruised GR there is a big disparity. But tonight, on the way back to Lisa's car, I spotted another sw. She was hispanic, and although I am trying to be all cool with Lisa like "I only have eyes for you babe", Lisa spotted her too and taps on the window and waves. She says "Hi Selena" and tells me she knows this girl and she is really cool, another sw. I think I have seen this Selena before, in the daytime, and had actually tried to approach her, but she gave no obvious signs of being an sw, even though I caught up with her as she walked through a parking lot and pulled up right next to her. If this IS the same girl, she just may not have been on the stroll that time, as she went directly into a building without any hesitation.
At any rate, this hsw is very hot also, from what I could see at night. If anyone has seen this girl (Selena) it would be nice to hear about it.
As far as unpredictability is concerned, I am just talking about the odds of going out night after night after day after day and never seeing any quality sw's or not even seeing any at all. And then in one night, BAM, two super-hot girls one right after the other. Now I know the really hot ones never have to stay out long, so they are harder to find. My only point is, it would be nice to have a more reliable way to take some of the unpredictability out of all of this without having to fall back on the more expensive escort option.
BTW, I have digits for "Effin' Hot Lisa" if some more reputable mongers want it. She says her cell was stolen tonight, but she will replace it and maintain the same number. If one of you is a regular of hers, she complained that with the phone she also lost the numbers of her regulars.
Well, it looks like I have written another book here, so I better end this. I may not have much to post for a while. After Holly Saturday, Ash and Lisa tonight, and Lisa again tomorrow I am probably going to be out of mongering bucks for a while. But I am a quality over quantity guy, and I certainly cannot complain about the quality of these three.
Member #5710
10-04-10, 10:13
When I saw her last week Friday morning, I mention to her that the only time I would be able to see her would be M-F in the morning. When I left I told her I would contact her in the near future. I figured this would stop her from sending me unsolicited texts.
Wrong.
This morning on my way to work she sent a text asking me about my availability this morning. 30 minutes later when I got to work I sent her a text to let her know that it was not OK for her to initiate contact with me. We'll see if she abides by that. I may see her again at some point (maybe in a month) but if she initiates contact again, I will not see her again. Never experienced a sw or escort with this kind of aggressive approach. It's a bit disconcerting.
I have seen Lisa and can confirm everything that Loner has said.
It was almost too good to be true. BBJ for .2
This was an excellent appointment! She has an extensive repertoire and she uses it. She's very geezer friendly and highly experienced. If you have trouble getting jump-started, she'll get you going. She's real eye-candy and very enthusiastic. I'll repeat as long as I can afford the rate, which is reasonable for what you get.
I can provide info on where to find her schedule posts, to Senior Members, because I don't think she posts on BP.
Yesterday around 7pm or downwards, while I was going to pick up one of my boys and to the store. I saw candice on division street by hall area or very close to dickinson street on division.
Uncle Le was out on full force and she was wearing a red pant, white tee shirt and I believe she had a brown bag that she was carrying also with her, candice is either a mexican, native or white lady / SW and she stands at least five feet and three inches I believe and she weighs between 160 through 190 pounds.
Just trying to warn you all out there that, le and SW are still around, but folks who are on the street hunt should be careful as has been written on the newbie forum post.
I also saw a WSW on division and franklin and I had too make a turn by franklin and madison, she stand about 5ft5inches tall and she weighs between 170 to 200 pounds, in my dream she told and showed me her I'd and it starts with j and her middle name starts with g too, she normally stay in one of those mel trother shelter I believe or she would normally give you a number to call and leave a message for her, which I did call, but I did not leave a message, since I wasnt really trying to see her, I was just checking to see if it was / is working and which it was then as of[10/15/2010].
The bi*ch was trying to go with me to the store and for me to get a room too and that she will chill with me all night, but as a cheap fu*ker like me LOL, I refuse her offer and I just gave her five dollars for her time[in a dream].
She wanted me to give her ten and I could have either head and pu*y or whichever one I prefer, but my budget and sex drive is not good for bi*ches whom I got to pick up LOL.
She was abit buzz or drunk and she was light french kissing me and she was giving me a vibe, like she wants a boyfriend and that I would have to either give her money or still let her work the street sometime, probably later on this month or next month, I might call the number she gave me and see was up with her then.
Lastly she said that she is in her fourties, she got all her teeth and she was trimmed in her pu*y, since she showed me it to proof to me that she was not uncle le LOL.
TwistedBrother
10-16-10, 23:33
Got to love that, LOL. Something we can all look forward to. I'm so bad, I've just gotten a serious GF and I'm already thinking ahead to how old I'll be when I'm single again and on the hunt.
She's very geezer friendly
I was stopped and given a ticket last night for stopping in a traffic lane. A $118 ticket. I had seen a WSW that looked very good that I hadn't seen before. I stopped at the corner of cutler and division to make the pickup. She no longer had gotten in and le with lights on right behind me. He searched my car and didn't find anything illegal thank god she didn't have anything on her that she left in the truck. They separated us and I told them I didnot know her and was going to give her a ride to super 8 motel. I had a clean record and I think she did also. They said I could give her a ride or leave her stuff on the sidewalk and take off. I decided to just take off after leaving her stuff. It could have been a whole lot worse for me if she had hid any drugs in the car. As much as I like variety I think I'll stick to some regulars with number for now. I copperated with le and he was very professional. Being a 60 year old guy might have helped his attitute toward me. If anyone would like to double up on a SW let me know I have a place we can use if the girl is trustworthy. BE AWARE OFF THE SURROUNDINGS & DON'T LET YOUR GUARD DOWN LIKE I DID.
I was stopped and given a ticket last night for stopping in a traffic lane. A $118 ticket. I had seen a WSW that looked very good that I hadn't seen before. I stopped at the corner of cutler and division to make the pickup. She no longer had gotten in and le with lights on right behind me. He searched my car and didn't find anything illegal thank god she didn't have anything on her that she left in the truck. They separated us and I told them I didnot know her and was going to give her a ride to super 8 motel. I had a clean record and I think she did also. They said I could give her a ride or leave her stuff on the sidewalk and take off. I decided to just take off after leaving her stuff. It could have been a whole lot worse for me if she had hid any drugs in the car. As much as I like variety I think I'll stick to some regulars with number for now. I copperated with le and he was very professional. Being a 60 year old guy might have helped his attitute toward me. If anyone would like to double up on a SW let me know I have a place we can use if the girl is trustworthy. BE AWARE OFF THE SURROUNDINGS & DON'T LET YOUR GUARD DOWN LIKE I DID.Dongr,
I am younger then you, so I hope you bear with me what I have to write here against you a little bit. When loner57 gave me holly number, I sent you a message to update you about holly where about and for you to see, if I am lying to you or if the street worker you picked, was telling you her own truth to her own advantage.
You did not reply me then, which was okay with me and which is why I am posting this here in the open for you too.
I believe your story about LE, because LE has stopped me and only gave me a ticket once, when one of my boys cracked under pressure and showed LE some condoms that he had on him, which I later come to find out that, my boy had some warrants on him for child support I believe, so he was scared and was begging me to take the ticket for him and not to argue with the good officers.
But when I have been by myself, LE has stopped me alot and since I have no warrants and am always legit, they always let me go and they sometime too apologise to me too LOL.
Anyways my humble advise to you or anyone who still wants to be a little bit active on the street hunt, is for you guys too please never get too horny that you forget to use the brain up and hopefully you guys dont use the one down.
As I wrote earlier on here, if you had replied me[whether good or bad]when I sent you concerning holly, I would not have posted this here.
I know or believe that LE might be reading this forums, but if they can't help some folks like me, who is not breaking the law, they definitely are not going to get any help from me[whether knowingly or unknowingly].
I know that it has been discuss in this forum a little bit, but some LE might be register members too I believe and dongr, if it looks like am implying that you are LE, I am asking for your forgiveness in advance as long as you can prove that you are not LE to me or any other trusted members of your choice / liking.
Dongr, if you or anyone else must reply and to defend you or themselves, please folks should protect yourself if you must reply here in the open here and / or through private message too. Thanks.
Since I believe in not being a rat / snitch and if I ever get in trouble on the street hunt, am on my own and I will never rat, snitch or set anyone up. But if anyone, especially knowingly set me up, they definitely will go down before me.
Editing,since some members are vouching for don,i believe don is okay and my little annoyance that i had against don because of holly incident,i have decided to let that annoyance go and if/when don messages get empty or if don send me a message,don i can explain why i was annoyed with you,but if you dont feel like it,you dont have to reply me in private or out here.
Don once again,sorry for your experience and i hope you find the individual you trust,that way your need will be met too.
Member #5710
10-18-10, 14:33
Jum,
WTF are you talking about? Why are you calling out Dongr?
[QUOTE=Sparty0320; 1079482]Jum,
WTF are you talking about? Why are you calling out Dongr?
I am not calling him out anyway. If you send me a message and then I don't answer you, then later am asking / writing about someone and I too share a room or whatever place.
Sparty, would you not call me out?
Sparty, remember you where trying to say that grmojo was a drunk or whatever in order for you to defend I believe sandy, which I did not say / write anything.
Personally, grmojo already gave me holly number and I just wanted to see if loner57 would give me the same or old number.
Lastly sparty, if you prefer you can send me a message and I can give you a little bit low down in private, since I believe I saw you or someone like you last month, in the place where I normally use to be.
Sparty and others, let us keep ourself on the issue at hand, you call me out fine and I too would have to call you out.
Since I believe you keep my secret safe and I'll keep your's' safe too. By the way I can proof to anyone that am not LE as long as you too agree to proof that you are not Le too.
I am sorry if you feel you have a beef with Don, Jum, but I know he is legit and he has been handing out info to me and others for a long time. I hope you will not take my words in a bad light either, because I feel that we are all on here for the same reason and that both of you are valuable members here, but the PM's are what this type of thing is for. I am extremely sure that Don did not mean to slight you in anyway. I hope you might shoot him a PM with what you felt his slight was and that you two can go forward and continue being the strong contributors that you have both been. BY the way, I have been guilty of this type of behavior too, I will get a number and maybe never follow through with getting a date, or the number will no longer work when I do get around to trying it. It happens and while I am grateful that someone shared info, I got no use out of it and had nothing to report in the end.
Sorry but DonGR is solid. I've got many a good PM with info. From him over the years.
I recall when he was DonDetroit before the forum somehow messed up his log in years back.
I don't have nearly the mongering time or funds I used to so I have limited info. To post but Don is straight up monger.
Thanks gordo for vouching for dongr. Now I apologise to dongr and I hope he find the information he needs.
I too have slowed down and am just mainly chilling with my friends. The message / post I wrote for sparty, I am not going to address it in the open or in private, unless if dongr decides to send me a private message.
He's always had great info to share. I've never so much as been stopped by a cop, while on Division, much less given a ticket.
I was stopped and given a ticket last night for stopping in a traffic lane. A $118 ticket. I had seen a WSW that looked very good that I hadn't seen before. I stopped at the corner of cutler and division to make the pickup. She no longer had gotten in and le with lights on right behind me. He searched my car and didn't find anything illegal thank god she didn't have anything on her that she left in the truck. They separated us and I told them I didnot know her and was going to give her a ride to super 8 motel. I had a clean record and I think she did also. They said I could give her a ride or leave her stuff on the sidewalk and take off. I decided to just take off after leaving her stuff. It could have been a whole lot worse for me if she had hid any drugs in the car. As much as I like variety I think I'll stick to some regulars with number for now. I copperated with le and he was very professional. Being a 60 year old guy might have helped his attitute toward me. If anyone would like to double up on a SW let me know I have a place we can use if the girl is trustworthy. BE AWARE OFF THE SURROUNDINGS & DON'T LET YOUR GUARD DOWN LIKE I DID.If you have paid the fine, there is probably no reason to talk. But I have had too many stops and thus experience. MW
Haven't posted in awhile (hanging out International, streets too risky) but its good to see this type of dialogue and vouching. Hey lets face it, LE is often bored and is easily tempted to join the chats for enjoyment if not anything else.
Member #3987
10-18-10, 23:48
I haven't been here long enough to be Sr member yet, so you can take whatever I say with a grain of salt. As I mentioned before, I have been mongering off and on for about 30 years, mostly in the Dallas / Ft. Worth area, but have just recently discovered this board.
In 30 years, you are going to get stopped at some point, no matter how careful you are, and it has happened to me maybe a half dozen times, with two times being ticketed. I would like to point out that while tickets are certainly no fun (especially for those who may be married, it certainly beats the alternative of being taken in. And sometimes I wonder just how strong a possibility that is, since I know the girls are arrested fairly frequently. Seems the "john" gets the benefit of the doubt in most cases. The last time I was ticketed, they took the girl to jail (in DFW. The first time, even though I was ticketed with "manifestation of prostitution" or something like that, they still let the girl ride away with me. If we hadn't already done the deal, I probably would have taken her someplace if for no other reason than to justify getting the ticket.
But 5 or 6 pull-overs in 30 years (which comes to once every 5 or 6 years) is not bad, considering. I pay attention, but have to admit not always on top of my game. Some of the girls, once the cops get to know them and if they aren't what the street girls in DFW called "scandalous" (thieves and rip-off artists). The cops will generally let them be even if they see them getting in your vehicle.
The last word in the above paragraph leads me to my second point: several times on this forum I have read posts that describe the poster's vehicle. Maybe not specifically (color or license number, but generally as car, truck, van, etc. This may seem silly, but I am sure LE knows about and reads this forum from time to time. I don't want to run into a LEO on the street and have him putting two and two together from any posts I have here. Also, sometimes you read a post where a monger will describe in more detail another mongers vehicle. I would hate for that "other monger" to be me, and give LE something specific to look for.
Also, while I will give a general area that I have picked up a SW, or the general area of her whereabouts, I try not to be too specific (especially if it is where she lives) unless it is one of the already "known" motels.
I know we all know these things already, but just a (hopefully gentle) reminder to hold back certain types of info for PMs with members you trust.
I was in GR for a evening and I called an escort for an outcall at my room in hotel based on advt in yellow pages [yellowbook. Com page 375]; viz. GIRLFRIEND EXPERINCE A vii vii iii-9v4viii, AND LO; a mother of one kid with lot of stretch matrks visited my room. She was half ARAB though american by birth. As usual we have to pay upfront which I did. After some time she said she forgot condoms, which I had to produce from my stock; again after some time she said she has to get her bag from car from parking lot of hotel. And before I could protest or argue, she dressed and went leaving only her socks as if enough colateral; never to return. Senior mongers, pl advise how would you manage such situations? This is my first experience of Major CHEATING / Fraud Be carefule of this half Arab girl, its the pressure of motherhood probably makes her so mean minded and cheat and not her ethnicity I am otherwise a middle aged well mannered non smoking nin drinking gentleman then she is expected to keep her term of 2 Hrs time for the donations received by her, isn't it?
Member #5710
10-19-10, 10:08
I was in GR for a evening and I called an escort for an outcall at my room in hotel based on advt in yellow pages [yellowbook. Com page 375]; viz. GIRLFRIEND EXPERINCE A vii vii iii-9v4viii, AND LO; a mother of one kid with lot of stretch matrks visited my room. She was half ARAB though american by birth. As usual we have to pay upfront which I did. After some time she said she forgot condoms, which I had to produce from my stock; again after some time she said she has to get her bag from car from parking lot of hotel. And before I could protest or argue, she dressed and went leaving only her socks as if enough colateral; never to return. Senior mongers, pl advise how would you manage such situations? This is my first experience of Major CHEATING / Fraud Be carefule of this half Arab girl, its the pressure of motherhood probably makes her so mean minded and cheat and not her ethnicity I am otherwise a middle aged well mannered non smoking nin drinking gentleman then she is expected to keep her term of 2 Hrs time for the donations received by her, isn't it?My personal opinion is that your first mistake was setting up an appointment with this agency (probably only this girl but who knows) without doing any due diligence. Seems to me that you picked a number "out of the book" and called it. Some simple internet research and a check of the standard sites would show that there are no site postings or reviews (good or bad. At least I couldn't find any based on the name and phone number you gave; only the yellowbook listing.
So she shows up and spends some amount of time with you engaged in some sort of activity. The thing here is that you are only paying for her time and nothing else. Other things might be implied but are not guaranteed. Obviously you did not get the satisfaction you were seeking but the only thing you can really complain about, IMO, is that she left before the time was up.
I doubt that the pressures of motherhood (if she really is a mother instead of simply having lost weight) caused her to "shortchange" you. More likely it is simply in her nature. Not because of her ethnicity but probably because she has an addiction.
The reality is that there is not much you could do once you're in the situation. You can't really force her to stay or demand your money back without potentially causing an unwanted scene that may bring unwanted people to your door. Chalk this one up to "live and learn" as many of us have had to do over the years.
A couple of decades ago when I was young and in college I dreamed that I got ripped off by a WSW. Good looking chick but had an obvious habit. We agreed on french for a particular donation. During the middle of that she wanted to give me full service. I though wow she must really like me (stupid 20 year old thought) Put the cover on and went at it. During all of this she had taken my wallet out of my pants and removed the rest of my paycheck for that week. (less than a couple hundred but a fortune to a college student) Must have happened during the french and the full service was a cover to stuff the money away. I didn't even realize it had happened until a half hour after she got out of the vehicle. It was a hard lesson to learn but I learned it well.
RoadWarrior615
10-19-10, 18:59
I was in GR for a evening and I called an escort for an outcall at my room in hotel based on advt in yellow pages [yellowbook. Com page 375]; viz. GIRLFRIEND EXPERINCE A vii vii iii-9v4viii, AND LO; a mother of one kid with lot of stretch matrks visited my room. She was half ARAB though american by birth. As usual we have to pay upfront which I did. After some time she said she forgot condoms, which I had to produce from my stock; again after some time she said she has to get her bag from car from parking lot of hotel. And before I could protest or argue, she dressed and went leaving only her socks as if enough colateral; never to return. Senior mongers, pl advise how would you manage such situations? This is my first experience of Major CHEATING / Fraud Be carefule of this half Arab girl, its the pressure of motherhood probably makes her so mean minded and cheat and not her ethnicity I am otherwise a middle aged well mannered non smoking nin drinking gentleman then she is expected to keep her term of 2 Hrs time for the donations received by her, isn't it?Man how do you all keep letting these girls rip you off and they only do it to white man. NO pun. But some of your are soft. So they know they can take your $ and run away and your to weak minded to do anything.
Here's some advice.
1. When you meet the girl do smile, let her know its business. If she see you smiling and happy etc, then she know your too nice and will take your $
2, Mark the money before and or write down the serial numbers or last 4. If she take it, telling her your calling the police because she took your money. Tell her the bills are marked and you know the serial numbers.
3rd Better of all keep the money on the TV stand and tell her she can get it when your down or give her half now half later.
Use your head. Its all kind of things you can do to prevent this but first you have to know what environment your in. Are you at her room, she at yours etc.
Man how do you all keep letting these girls rip you off and they only do it to white man. NO pun. But some of your are soft. So they know they can take your $ and run away and your to weak minded to do anything.
Here's some advice.
1. When you meet the girl do smile, let her know its business. If she see you smiling and happy etc, then she know your too nice and will take your $
2, Mark the money before and or write down the serial numbers or last 4. If she take it, telling her your calling the police because she took your money. Tell her the bills are marked and you know the serial numbers.
3rd Better of all keep the money on the TV stand and tell her she can get it when your down or give her half now half later.
Use your head. Its all kind of things you can do to prevent this but first you have to know what environment your in. Are you at her room, she at yours etc. Roadwarrior I like your advise, but even though you are saying no pun intended, I don't believe that is fair to a white guy / individual. I got white and black friends, so I believe good and bad things happen to both black and white guys / people.
I gave praj4 an advise to bring it here in the general thread and I was glad in the way praj4 responded to my issues with him.
Praj4 is asking for advise and maybe because of how I personally and some folks too like me, we prefer for new guys or people with few post to read the forum very well and then they make there move and hopefully they have a good time, maybe that was why praj4 did not feel like bringing it here to the general section.
Praj4 response to the rip off issue[rip off thread], makes sense to me as I love to have every good and bad information available to me, so that hopefully I can either ask the individual some questions if I feel like or I can ask others there opinions if I feel like.
Once again roadwarrior good advise, but I got black and white friends, so I can't feel right in not at least defending praj4 for now and hopefully praj4, would post more here or wherever he likes.
Thanks for you guys' advices!
At Roadwarrier-your advise is not realistic. I had excellent experience at Bogota just in the last week with similar outcalls inspite of dire warnings from my other monger friends, but Colombia was heaven while I least expected in a advance, more law abiding but cinservative US society, and I experienced RIP off. Now can I conclude aabout US culture etc etc. No; its just finite probability of such accidents occurring to anybody and at anytime however low!
Nothing about being soft! We are normal men and are pragmatic enough not to waste time with wrong persons like LE who will spend great deal of time for their data collection then ask whether I have any proof! Ofcourse not unless you follow two advises rendered by you- 1]write down the serial numbers. If she take it, tell her you are calling the police because she took your money. Tell her you know the serial numbers 2] keep the money on the TV stand and tell her she can get it when your down or give her half now half later.
So you are right and wrong at the same time!
At Sparty.I didnot see the reviews but yellowbook has been reliable source of info for many other activities; I assumed that they must be making every advertising person traceable and hence fearful of getting caught!
Long Live Mongering forum! Atleast you have somebody's shoulders' to shed some dry tears! Thank you all, keep it going.
Hey fellow mongers,
I will be heading to your area soon and wanted to get some recommendations on some of the best places to check out for fine SW or backpage action. PMs are fine. Thanks.
Stay safe & smart.
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Out of the blue, Marsha gave me a call. She's back in action, at least for now. I had a good time! With a firm and shapely ass like that, you'll at least enjoy the eye-candy. Digits are available to senior members,
I saw Tyler again and she's becoming a real drag. She is always indecisive as to whether she feels awake enough to do a half hour or an hour. She tries talking me into a higher rate. Hell, she seems conflicted as to whether she should be in the biz at all. She should make up her mind and stick to her decision. What a buzzkill! I probably won't see her again, unless it's a very slow night.
Thanks for the PM of digits for Marney!
I finally call and setup a visit to see Marney. She's no longer on South side of town but I make the trip to her place.
Its a bit cruddy but the neighborhood is only so so and not as bad as the stretch we all hunt on.
As others said earlier in the thread Marney is a heavy girl. And lately all my hookups have been pretty and built or thin so my first impression is wow I hope I can get it up for her! What she lacks in the looks and body department she makes up for in attitude and skills.
I walk in and we go straight to her mattress on the floor. She pulls her pants off. That a girl! We lay down and she goes to work on BBBJ. I already know from reports here its cimws and only. 2 She does it up well. As said before, like an icecream cone but better. She seems t have no gag reflex and can take it all and lick my nuts with my thing in her throat at the same time! I finish and she doesn't miss a drop or slow down at all. It was very well done.
Awesome service for. 2 with her own place to do the deed. That trumps the weight factor. Well worth it! I'll see her again.
Thanks again for the digits PM!
Member #5710
11-19-10, 12:14
Glad you had a good time Monger01. I was actually trying to decide between dreaming about Marney this morning, cruising the stroll or dreaming about one of a couple BP girls. Monger01, your post refreshed my memory of why I like Marney and solidified my choice.
So I dreamt that I called Marney this morning to ask about her availability and she said come on over. Showed up about a half hour later. One thing that kind of confuses me is that I am unaware of her living on the south side. Since my first post about her, she has been living on the north end of town not far from the Medical Mile on Michigan Ave.
In my dream, Marney has cleaned up her apartment some and it isn't near as messy as the last time I was there. She greeted me warmly with a smile and a hug (I still think she has one of the nicest smiles I've ever experienced) and she smelled nice as if she had recently showered. She never did smell bad just fresher this time. Any way, I give her a 0. 20 and she says "just head, I've got hats this time." I say,"Let's see how it goes"
So as I'm dreaming we shed the confines of our clothing and get comfortable on her mattress with her laying between my knees. Marney appears to have lost a bit of weight. Not a bunch but enough to be noticable. She was trimmed up quite nicely with a little bit of fur up above and bald when the action happens. Monger01 is correct when he says she has no gag reflex. Her DT is spot on and her ice cream cone treatment of mini-me and his two friends is exceptional. What really got me going was when she went farther down almost to the "brown eye" and started licking and kissing. I tried to subtly coax her further down but either she didn't get the hint or was not interested in going there. I always make sure I am clean and well groomed everywhere when I'm going to be (or potentially be) with any woman. You never know if she might want to get a little kinky and it's always good to be prepared. I remember a WSW from many years ago (I think her name was Lisa) That liked to practically bury her tongue up there.
Any way, further into the dream I sat up so that my hand could reach down between her legs. I started stroking her and she started kissing my chest. I managed to get a finger in and I found something that was snug (not the tightest I've had but nice nonetheless) and beginning to get wet. I turned her over and tentatively dove down between her thighs. Everything smelled fresh down there too which confirmed that she had indeed showered or bathed before I came over. After that I went to town with tongue and finger action. Marney came fairly quick and powerfully. It was quick enough where one might think she was faking but her physical reactions (shaking and wetness) told me she wasn't. I continued licking and she pulled away telling me that it was starting to tickle (that's always a good sign). We proceeded to FS with mish and, as I said before, she is snug but not tight. While we where going at it she was kissing my neck and nibbling my ear and gibing it back to me with some nice hip movement. I blasted off sooner than I wanted to but in the end it was all good.
From there we got dressed and chit chatted a bit. I briefly thought about simply leaving after getting all of this for 0. 20 but I had a 0. 10 tucked away just in case things went as far as it did and I happily gave it to her.
GFE for 0. 30. Can't beat that with a stick.
I have this girl I see in GR and see has crazy dreams. She wants to be used by a bunch of guys. She is a little thick but beautiful and has amazing skills. Anyone up for it. She would love to have pics taken as well.
Who have you been seeing in the past few months?
I've been busy with a few:
Stacy. BSW, petite and really build. She's a little too young to have a great understanding of men, but that may change in a few years.
Angel.WSW, petite and cute as hell. Very affectionate, when she gets comfortable with you. Always a great time! Cute ass!
Natalie. Used to post on BP, but stopped because there are much more discreet boards for her to post on. She's pretty, with a bubbly personality. She does have signs of having kids, but nothing major. She's one of my favorites and will probably continue to be. She has a good head on her shoulders.
Marsha. She apparently tried to contact me from KCJ, but had to hang up because traffic started moving. She still owes me an appointment and has been dragging her feet on that, so she'll need good luck getting bail money. If you like dirty talk, she's good in that regard. Nice ass!
I'd be willing to share info with Senior Members - just ask.
Grmojo you are right on with your report. The only one I haven't seen is Natalie so I will pm you to see if I can get more info. Moving to Florida next week. Thanks to everyones help here in GR for great info.
QUOTE=Grmojo; 1138567]Who have you been seeing in the past few months?
I've been busy with a few:
Stacy. BSW, petite and really build. She's a little too young to have a great understanding of men, but that may change in a few years.
Angel. WSW, petite and cute as hell. Very affectionate, when she gets comfortable with you. Always a great time! Cute ass!
Natalie. Used to post on BP, but stopped because there are much more discreet boards for her to post on. She's pretty, with a bubbly personality. She does have signs of having kids, but nothing major. She's one of my favorites and will probably continue to be. She has a good head on her shoulders.
Marsha. She apparently tried to contact me from KCJ, but had to hang up because traffic started moving. She still owes me an appointment and has been dragging her feet on that, so she'll need good luck getting bail money. If you like dirty talk, she's good in that regard. Nice ass!
I'd be willing to share info with Senior Members. Just ask. [/QUOTE]
SqueakyCheese
02-18-11, 03:10
Been reading the forum for a bit, thinking of going to the hobby store. I was wondering about these two:
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/andlt3-bbw-college-babe-andlt3-23/5541730
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/xhilerating-massage-45/5530295
I know the're a big difference between the two but. . .
Any advice?
Member #5710
02-18-11, 10:25
Been reading the forum for a bit, thinking of going to the hobby store. I was wondering about these two:
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/andlt3-bbw-college-babe-andlt3-23/5541730
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/xhilerating-massage-45/5530295
I know the're a big difference between the two but. . .
Any advice? I can say with confidence that you will be very happy with Susie. You will definitely leave with a huge smile on your face. I can't comment one way or the other on the girl in your first link. I have never seen her and probably never will. I don't mind a bigger girl but she's too big for me.
I can say with confidence that you will be very happy with Susie. You will definitely leave with a huge smile on your face. I can't comment one way or the other on the girl in your first link. I have never seen her and probably never will. I don't mind a bigger girl but she's too big for me.Ditto. She is one of the best.
Davidonecall
02-19-11, 03:18
Who have you been seeing in the past few months?
I've been busy with a few:
Stacy. BSW, petite and really build. She's a little too young to have a great understanding of men, but that may change in a few years.
Angel. WSW, petite and cute as hell. Very affectionate, when she gets comfortable with you. Always a great time! Cute ass!
Natalie. Used to post on BP, but stopped because there are much more discreet boards for her to post on. She's pretty, with a bubbly personality. She does have signs of having kids, but nothing major. She's one of my favorites and will probably continue to be. She has a good head on her shoulders.
Marsha. She apparently tried to contact me from KCJ, but had to hang up because traffic started moving. She still owes me an appointment and has been dragging her feet on that, so she'll need good luck getting bail money. If you like dirty talk, she's good in that regard. Nice ass!
I'd be willing to share info with Senior Members. Just ask. This an excellent review (report) , to the point and direct. Very nice. Happy hunting and let's stay safe.
Member #3987
02-20-11, 00:34
Been reading the forum for a bit, thinking of going to the hobby store. I was wondering about these two:
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/andlt3-bbw-college-babe-andlt3-23/5541730
http://grandrapids.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/xhilerating-massage-45/5530295
I know the're a big difference between the two but. . .
Any advice? Have to totally agree with Sparty and Johny Mac on this one. I also have not seen the first girl, although I do think she has a sexy face.
But if you want a sure thing, satisfaction guaranteed, Susie is your best bet by a long shot. She is a total pleaser, and you will not want to leave. Just plain good fun. Never heard the word no from her, and I have seen her probably 2 dozen times.
I have moved to the Ocala Florida area and need fellow mongers to vouch for me. I have search the area for 3 days and have only found one SW who I have not spent time with. I anyone would be so kind to post on the Ocala board that I'm not LE and I treat the girls wll I would really appreciate it!
Thanks in advance I am all ready missing my regulars in GR!
RunningGuy
02-21-11, 00:06
Agree with Sparty and Johny Mac, have seen Susie not the other. Susie is definite a winner, sure GFE and nice looking MILF.
RunningGuy
Have to totally agree with Sparty and Johny Mac on this one. I also have not seen the first girl, although I do think she has a sexy face.
But if you want a sure thing, satisfaction guaranteed, Susie is your best bet by a long shot. She is a total pleaser, and you will not want to leave. Just plain good fun. Never heard the word no from her, and I have seen her probably 2 dozen times.
To everyone posting and vouching for me on the Florida board. After 5 days of searching found a nice WSW to take care of me. Sorry to hear about the weather up there on Sunday but Spring is just around the corner and I understand summers here are really hot!
Don
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