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Benz1
02-02-23, 12:32
It's been a week since I logged in.

My hobby phone won't connect and my new home WiFi StarLink shows every device, can't log into WiFi at home.

I'm currently using WiFi in the parking lot of a bar.

Thanks for the tips on Verizon, I was heading there today.

Hopefully fix this soon.

BoatGuy1
02-02-23, 13:45
Thought I was banned or something, but just Verizon. Added a free private VPN to circumvent and that works great. If you want, try pronto.


It's been a week since I logged in.

My hobby phone won't connect and my new home WiFi StarLink shows every device, can't log into WiFi at home.

I'm currently using WiFi in the parking lot of a bar.

Thanks for the tips on Verizon, I was heading there today.

Hopefully fix this soon.

Benz1
02-02-23, 14:42
Contacted Ashley Winter for some advice, she said go see Mo!

Since Ashley recommended him, I could explain everything I needed and why. Just incase clients are in the room I can make it easy on everyone.

Owner of Boost on Plainfield said he'll give the same deal to all my Frenz.

Just say you're Frenz of Benz. And he'll know exactly what you need.

AntBz
02-03-23, 16:29
Contacted Ashley Winter for some advice, she said go see Mo!

Since Ashley recommended him, I could explain everything I needed and why. Just incase clients are in the room I can make it easy on everyone.

Owner of Boost on Plainfield said he'll give the same deal to all my Frenz.

Just say you're Frenz of Benz. And he'll know exactly what you need.Thanks for referral. Am I missing something? Are you saying the way to fix connectivity issue is to buy a new phone from a man named Mo? Based on a recommendation from Ashley? It might have worked but wouldn't a cheaper fix be a VPN that downloads for free? Maybe I missed something but the apple store said VPN.

Benz1
02-04-23, 18:07
Thanks for referral. Am I missing something? Are you saying the way to fix connectivity issue is to buy a new phone from a man named Mo? Based on a recommendation from Ashley? It might have worked but wouldn't a cheaper fix be a VPN that downloads for free? Maybe I missed something but the apple store said VPN.Money is not the issue for me, safety first.

Some mongers would rather rent a room than bring a girl home. They are very smart and safety minded.

All phone apps can be tracked back to the owner.

I'm surprised anyone uses anything except a hobby phone.

Tracfone and Verizon T mobil won't connect to usasexguide anymore.

Hobby phone is the safest way to play.

Stay safe.

Benz1
02-05-23, 13:44
Thanks for referral. Am I missing something? Are you saying the way to fix connectivity issue is to buy a new phone from a man named Mo? Based on a recommendation from Ashley? It might have worked but wouldn't a cheaper fix be a VPN that downloads for free? Maybe I missed something but the apple store said VPN.Yes you are missing something it's called Anonymity.

Recently in the news police Revealed A stalker had visited the house Twelve times Before he went in and murdered 4 people. If your real phone is on you it can be tracked and you can be identified regardless what function you were using when you were in the area and made the phone call or text.

This is a real life case scenario in our city.

In November a well known provider in Grand-rapids was arrested for prostitution and FAILURE TO REPORT A DEAD BODY.

LE has the capability to search her phone and see who texted or called her on that day. If you used your real phone in anyway they will find you to ask questions. If they find your fingerprints or DNA in the room they'll have more questions. Unless you wear a hat with sunglasses, gloves and remove your condum out of the room before you leave, there will be a lot of evidence including hall cameras that you were in that room that day.

My new hobby phone was registered at the store I purchased it at with my fake FB hobby name and email.

I registered it with my hobby name so providers have a name to see. Many providers do not answer calls or text without a name. I have a lot of providers on my FB list that I haven't seen yet, they will remember my name and answer quicker than a blocked name.

Oops just gave away one of my best methods of contacting new providers or bringing them back after leaving the hobby.

I will trust my ground game experience of taking one for the team with over 100 new providers during the last 10 yrs over the new technology making it easier to track me any day.

Buy a hobby phone, do not register it at home using your Wi-Fi. Register the phone in a restaurant or the place I bought mine.

Learn to hide the phone, don't be stupid and stay safe.

Tommey
02-06-23, 00:31
Yes you are missing something it's called Anonymity. , , ,With respect, I disagree. A phone can be a problem, when the SO finds it. No one else gives a shit about you.

Limit communication to when and where, use a simple texting solution that has no physical manifestation, remember your password, and close the browser / app every time. And sleep well.

Gene2
02-06-23, 09:55
Contacted Ashley Winter for some advice, she said go see Mo!

Since Ashley recommended him, I could explain everything I needed and why. Just incase clients are in the room I can make it easy on everyone.

Owner of Boost on Plainfield said he'll give the same deal to all my Frenz.

Just say you're Frenz of Benz. And he'll know exactly what you need.I ventured over to see Mo. It was an interesting conversation. I may retell it. But it may have to be told in the pugilistic thread. The experience was revealing. I have to figure out how much of it I should share.

Cliffhang.

G2.

AntBz
02-06-23, 10:54
Yes you are missing something it's called Anonymity.

Recently in the news police Revealed A stalker had visited the house Twelve times Before he went in and murdered 4 people. If your real phone is on you it can be tracked and you can be identified regardless what function you were using when you were in the area and made the phone call or text.

This is a real life case scenario in our city.

In November a well known provider in Grand-rapids was arrested for prostitution and FAILURE TO REPORT A DEAD BODY.

LE has the capability to search her phone and see who texted or called her on that day. If you used your real phone in anyway they will find you to ask questions. If they find your fingerprints or DNA in the room they'll have more questions. Unless you wear a hat with sunglasses, gloves and remove your condum out of the room before you leave, there will be a lot of evidence including hall cameras that you were in that room that day.

My new hobby phone was registered at the store I purchased it at with my fake FB hobby name and email.

I registered it with my hobby name so providers have a name to see. Many providers do not answer calls or text without a name. I have a lot of providers on my FB list that I haven't seen yet, they will remember my name and answer quicker than a blocked name.

Oops just gave away one of my best methods of contacting new providers or bringing them back after leaving the hobby.
k me any day.

Buy a hobby phone, do not register it at home using your Wi-Fi. Register the phone in a restaurant or the place I bought mine.

Learn to hide the phone, don't be stupid and stay safe.That wasn't my point. Security and anonymity are vital. And hobby phone is one solution. But connectivity issues some have with phone even hobby phone can be solved by free VPN download. No need to walk into specific phone store with password and buy new phone. If you already have working phone try free solution first. Save money. That is the point.

NoseJelly
02-06-23, 17:16
Mo was out to lunch with Larry, when I stopped by. Apparently they needed to discuss whether or not to have an intervention on Curly! Shemp, although a great guy, was not authorized to give me a Frenz Deal. He suggested coming in another time when Mo was available.

Frustrating.

Gene2
02-06-23, 18:13
Mo was out to lunch with Larry, when I stopped by. Apparently they needed to discuss whether or not to have an intervention on Curly! Shemp, although a great guy, was not authorized to give me a Frenz Deal. He suggested coming in another time when Mo was available.

Frustrating.Damn NJ. You are way too quick again. You got the direction I was planning for an entertaining story. All involving the escapades of Mo and his partners. Lots of slapstick.

Once again you've bested me. Now I have to regroup and see if a different story arc can be created.

Well done NJ. Well done.

Savor.

G2.

Benz1
02-06-23, 23:36
With respect, I disagree. A phone can be a problem, when the SO finds it. No one else gives a shit about you.

Limit communication to when and where, use a simple texting solution that has no physical manifestation, remember your password, and close the browser / app every time. And sleep well.I'm glad you're sleeping well.

Never meant to cause a stir by saying I fixed it for me. We all have different arrangements that make us feel safe and sleep at night.

I sleep best knowing my phone is and always will be traceable but not traceable to me, paid cash and registered it in my hobby name.

Good night.

Blackfire
02-07-23, 10:50
I ventured over to see Mo. It was an interesting conversation. I may retell it. But it may have to be told in the pugilistic thread. The experience was revealing. I have to figure out how much of it I should share.

Cliffhang.

G2.Should be an interesting story. I wondered if anyone would actually go and ask for Mo. Seems to me it would be a bit out there to see a guy I don't know on the recommendation of a guy I don't know to get a secret phone to access the hobby needs. Just wouldn't feel discrete to me.

Sparty On 1234
02-07-23, 11:48
Should be an interesting story. I wondered if anyone would actually go and ask for Mo. Seems to me it would be a bit out there to see a guy I don't know on the recommendation of a guy I don't know to get a secret phone to access the hobby needs. Just wouldn't feel discrete to me.Inquiring minds want to know. Please share.

Benz1
02-07-23, 15:49
Inquiring minds want to know. Please share.Networking takes time and isn't always easy.

It's easier not to share, Maybe next time I won't.

Benz1
02-09-23, 16:18
Just set up my account with VPN for a free 3-day trial.

If I go beyond 3 days I have to give them credit card information that can be tracked to me.

If I buy a Visa prepaid card it can still be tracked to me because I have to register that card before I can use it on the internet. If I swipe it at a store it doesn't need to be registered.

Please tell me where is the anonymity.

Wheel58
02-10-23, 09:05
Just set up my account with VPN for a free 3-day trial.

If I go beyond 3 days I have to give them credit card information that can be tracked to me.

If I buy a Visa prepaid card it can still be tracked to me because I have to register that card before I can use it on the internet. If I swipe it at a store it doesn't need to be registered.

Please tell me where is the anonymity.I agree frustrating for sure. You can enter fake info for registering your prepay visa and then enter the same fake info for your VPN or whatever service or site you are paying for.

DoIt161
02-10-23, 15:08
Hey everyone!

I was surfing around on the USA guide and reading reviews from other areas. I enjoy seeing what others are talking about throughout the country, and I like clicking the links and seeing the local providers. Anyway, I came across a link that took me to sumosearch. They have a Grand Rapids area and I was looking through it. However, it looks like many of the posts are fake. Some look real but some TGTBT with a lot of broken English.

Besides Skip the Games what other sites do you guys use? I seem to always see the same providers and I assume that I am missing out!

Thanks all!

OliverTwist501
02-10-23, 17:12
Some websites require CCs for membership or to search / contact other members. They can also ask for a name and billing addr presumably to help determine validity of CC#. Gift Visa / MC cards may be an anonymous work around for your personal CC, but can anyone offer advice on a name / addr workaround? I'm looking for simple. Don't want to get deep into the weeds with some sort of alternate I. D.

LoveSloppyLast
02-10-23, 17:21
Besides Skip the Games what other sites do you guys use? I seem to always see the same providers and I assume that I am missing out!

Thanks all!I know everyone has had good experiences and has had bad experiences with every site that has been used. Lets hope this discussion does not devolve into a pugilistic exercise. .

I used escortalligator when I was visiting Portland, Oregon and found a provider that hit all but two of my checkboxes, so I went for it. Remarkably, she was exactly as pictured and one hundred percent as advertised. No upsells! In fact, after concluding our closed-door session, we became friends and keep in touch with each other. I would repeat in a heartbeat.

There were less than stellar experiences with that site, too. I had to threaten one aggressive a $$hat with federal exposure (since we had not discussed anything illegal but they had) which brought that to a stop.

So, long story short, YMMV.

I see people use tna (but membership is required) on many of the Seattle area posts. My observation is that anyone on there is overpriced. Just my personal opinion.

There is a backpage-like site that I look at for amusement only. I've found scams on skipthegames that posted on the ersatz backpage or EA. It is quite an interesting exercise but it takes time and your computer may be open to pages you don't want to be seen by passers by.

The advantage of looking at all these sites together is that you will find scams by comparing the photos and phone numbers. Discontinuity of phone numbers but same pictures is a red flag. Many of you have other examples of red flags and I hope to learn from other's experiences.

I did score well using usasexguide in Las Vegas and Seattle. It was a naughty vacation that utilized 9 providers in five weeks (and tested clean six weeks after returning).

Good question.

LSL.

VetteMan6981
02-10-23, 17:36
So I wouldn't use it to find a provider because it draws listing from lots of different sights and has lots of fake profiles, but I will say that sumosear. Ch is a great tool when searching a number to see if that number has a history tied to different pics and how long a particular person has been advertising with that number as well as possible older pics of the provider if they are legit. So while not a great spot to find a provider, it is an amazing tool to sort out bs fake ads or possible LEO ads.


I know everyone has had good experiences and has had bad experiences with every site that has been used. Lets hope this discussion does not devolve into a pugilistic exercise. .

I used escortalligator when I was visiting Portland, Oregon and found a provider that hit all but two of my checkboxes, so I went for it. Remarkably, she was exactly as pictured and one hundred percent as advertised. No upsells! In fact, after concluding our closed-door session, we became friends and keep in touch with each other. I would repeat in a heartbeat.

There were less than stellar experiences with that site, too. I had to threaten one aggressive a $$hat with federal exposure (since we had not discussed anything illegal but they had) which brought that to a stop.

So, long story short, YMMV.

I see people use tna (but membership is required) on many of the Seattle area posts. My observation is that anyone on there is overpriced. Just my personal opinion..

Shawtren
02-11-23, 10:56
As I'm sure you've seen, there are dozens of escort sites out there. There are some that are used more in one city than others. Places like TER, Tryst, Escort Babylon, Eros and so on. Each has pluses and minuses. I am quite fond of Skip The Games.

But when it comes right down to its in the area you are seeking companionship use. So as was stated before escort alligator is used a lot in Seattle. Most of the links the guys will post in their reviews lead there. So it stands to reason, that is where you would do your research. You will soon pick up on the good and the bad. I like to do my research for about a month before I travel. It is both informative, and very entertaining. I also follow up with the reviewers in the city I am going and message them about the providers directly. You can learn a lot in a few messages if they are willing to share. So far, almost all have shared more info.

So do your due diligence and research multiple places. Bit in the end, my advice is handle it just like a restaurant in a destination city. Go where the locals go.

Play safe!

Shaw.


Hey everyone!

I was surfing around on the USA guide and reading reviews from other areas. I enjoy seeing what others are talking about throughout the country, and I like clicking the links and seeing the local providers. Anyway, I came across a link that took me to sumosearch. They have a Grand Rapids area and I was looking through it. However, it looks like many of the posts are fake. Some look real but some TGTBT with a lot of broken English.

Besides Skip the Games what other sites do you guys use? I seem to always see the same providers and I assume that I am missing out!

Thanks all!

OliverTwist501
02-11-23, 13:14
I agree frustrating for sure. You can enter fake info for registering your prepay visa and then enter the same fake info for your VPN or whatever service or site you are paying for.VPNs are commonly used across society. Unlike having a 2nd phone, having one doesn't equate to suspicious behavior except maybe in the eyes of some spouses. If nothing else, it protects against data capture for online transactions which ISPs may claim but still remain inherently vulnerable to. They are also great ad and pop up blockers. Nothing untoward about that. So I'm not sure that one need necessarily hide that purchase.

I happen to have NordVPN, which is out of one of the Nordic countries, on all my tech. It is common knowledge in our house. Like having a Bitdefender family plan. They are probably in the top 2 of vpns. Apart from being European which makes any US data requests arduous anyway, they have zero-logging so no user data is stored as well. Both Russia and India tried to force data retention upon them for their own reasons. NordSec, the parent company, declined and pulled up subsidiary roots. I've seen online reviews claiming that NordVPN is expensive. BS. My 2 yr plan runs about $3/ mth for up to 6 devices. A search of the web will find deals. Black Friday is always a good purchase time too. A CC is req'd.

Perhaps a more anonymous vpn is ProtonVPN out of Switzerland. It is free and unlimited without a catch, so no CC (they even point out that last fact). Almost all free VPNs monetize their operations by collecting user data and selling it to third-parties (hmm, sounds antithetical to their function), or by bombarding you with ads. Neither occurs with Proton. It is supported instead by other paid users, odd as that may seem to us. ProtonMail and VPN pitch themselves to journalists and activists worldwide, so privacy, security and cost matters to their business model. They are also zero-logging.

As for tracking, your phone / pc data goes out to the vpn site first rather than the wifi's ISP. So while the ISP facilitates that, it just knows you're connected to the VPN server. That's all. It has no access to where you go from there. As for phone GPS, on most Androids go to Settings Location and turn it off. Probably not advisable for primary phones if you use maps, traffic info, weather info, etc. But it will stop cell tower pinging where you don't want that.

Gene2
02-11-23, 17:56
VPNs are commonly used across society. Unlike having a 2nd phone, having one doesn't equate to suspicious behavior except maybe in the eyes of some spouses. If nothing else, it protects against data capture for online transactions which ISPs may claim but still remain inherently vulnerable to. They are also great ad and pop up blockers. Nothing untoward about that. So I'm not sure that one need necessarily hide that purchase.

I happen to have NordVPN, which is out of one of the Nordic countries, on all my tech. It is common knowledge in our house. Like having a Bitdefender family plan. They are probably in the top 2 of vpns. Apart from being European which makes any US data requests arduous anyway, they have zero-logging so no user data is stored as well. Both Russia and India tried to force data retention upon them for their own reasons. NordSec, the parent company, declined and pulled up subsidiary roots. I've seen online reviews claiming that NordVPN is expensive. BS. My 2 yr plan runs about $3/ mth for up to 6 devices. A search of the web will find deals. Black Friday is always a good purchase time too. A CC is req'd.

Perhaps a more anonymous vpn is ProtonVPN out of Switzerland. It is free and unlimited without a catch, so no CC (they even point out that last fact). Almost all free VPNs monetize their operations by collecting user data and selling it to third-parties (hmm, sounds antithetical to their function), or by bombarding you with ads. Neither occurs with Proton. It is supported instead by other paid users, odd as that may seem to us. ProtonMail and VPN pitch themselves to journalists and activists worldwide, so privacy, security and cost matters to their business model. They are also zero-logging.

As for tracking, your phone / pc data goes out to the vpn site first rather than the wifi's ISP. So while the ISP facilitates that, it just knows you're connected to the VPN server. That's all. It has no access to where you go from there. As for phone GPS, on most Androids go to Settings Location and turn it off. Probably not advisable for primary phones if you use maps, traffic info, weather info, etc. But it will stop cell tower pinging where you don't want that.Thanks OT. Great pointers that can help all of us in various situations. While most of us can withstand explaining purchase of a VPN, others cannot. So your advice and recommendations allow for that. And further pointers that address location services. Once again, clear and concise information. I do understand that LE did use location services to track a stalker who ultimately committed murder. However, I would certainly think none of us here see that as a viable concern for our personal future planned behavior. So, if we don't need a new hobby phone, we can solve the connectivity issue without a trip to a phone store with mumbling a password in hushed tones. I like it.

Thanks again OT.

G2.

AntBz
02-11-23, 22:55
Thanks OT. Great pointers that can help all of us in various situations. While most of us can withstand explaining purchase of a VPN, others cannot. So your advice and recommendations allow for that. And further pointers that address location services. Once again, clear and concise information. I do understand that LE did use location services to track a stalker who ultimately committed murder. However, I would certainly think none of us here see that as a viable concern for our personal future planned behavior. So, if we don't need a new hobby phone, we can solve the connectivity issue without a trip to a phone store with mumbling a password in hushed tones. I like it.

Thanks again OT.

G2.I agree completely. There is a need for varied opinions and tolerance of that. We are intelligent men. Honor us with dignifying our opinions. Thanks G2.

TypicalDude
02-18-23, 17:17
In using the "Email Me" button on STG posts, does anyone know if it's required to create a STG login? According to the contact form that comes up, I've never seen a notification that says I need to have a login / account. It just says my email was successfully sent.

I've done this 10-12 times in 2023, "emailing" 10-12 providers using the STG contact form linked to the "Email Me" button. I've never gotten a single reply.

Yes, it's possible many of those providers just weren't interested.

But, statistically, it seems like *one* of them would've replied, by now. Even if to say, "Nah, get fucked. ".

Before I send any follow-up emails, I wanted to ask if anyone knew whether a login / account was required, to use the "Email Me" button successfully on STG. I don't necessarily want to send duplicate emails to providers who just didn't care to reply (because that's fine, if that's the case.).

Thanks for any help with this question.

Chad Adler
02-22-23, 18:24
I was looking for her about a month ago. She disappeared then on us. Hope she is doing good.Your inbox is full.

Cassidy69
02-22-23, 23:12
In using the "Email Me" button on STG posts, does anyone know if it's required to create a STG login? According to the contact form that comes up, I've never seen a notification that says I need to have a login / account. It just says my email was successfully sent.

I've done this 10-12 times in 2023, "emailing" 10-12 providers using the STG contact form linked to the "Email Me" button. I've never gotten a single reply.

Yes, it's possible many of those providers just weren't interested.

But, statistically, it seems like *one* of them would've replied, by now. Even if to say, "Nah, get fucked. ".

Before I send any follow-up emails, I wanted to ask if anyone knew whether a login / account was required, to use the "Email Me" button successfully on STG. I don't necessarily want to send duplicate emails to providers who just didn't care to reply (because that's fine, if that's the case.).

Thanks for any help with this question.I don't have an answer as far as stg goes because I myself can't post there, however I can speak from personal experience. We in general are just horrible at answering emails, LOL. I get bombarded with so many text messages that I can't keep up with those let alone remember to check emails. If you prefer to contact via email, perhaps just send a neutral text to her number first saying to check her email. This has worked for me in the past with certain clients. Good luck!

OliverTwist500
02-23-23, 01:39
In using the "Email Me" button on STG posts, does anyone know if it's required to create a STG login?No it's not. Your lack of responses is coincidental.

OT500 (can't post out of my 501 acct).

Charlie441
02-23-23, 16:47
Definitely was my problem with her. When you say walk away, do you go somewhere else? My problem is I get worked up and want a release even with a messy smelly woman, unless I can go somewhere else quick. I have a time window before I need to be home from 'working out at gym' so I need quicker option. Maybe a walk in place? I make mistakes but try to learn from them.I know how you feel. You get worked up about it, excited -- and lo and behold, your little head has taken over when she's "negotiating" for giving less and asking for a lot more for what she advertised and what you expected that got you excited.

Here's how to resolve it: If it's a new girl or a 2nd visit with no solid reviews on consistency -- don't get excited about it. Your frame of mind should be that it very well may not work out. Assume it very well may not go thru. You're not going to the store to pick up some milk. You're fishing for a possibility still, just as you were texting them in the first place. Bear that in mind so your little head heeds excitement.

TypicalDude
02-23-23, 17:04
No it's not. Your lack of responses is coincidental.

OT500 (can't post out of my 501 acct).
I don't have an answer as far as stg goes because I myself can't post there, however I can speak from personal experience. We in general are just horrible at answering emails, LOL. I get bombarded with so many text messages that I can't keep up with those let alone remember to check emails. If you prefer to contact via email, perhaps just send a neutral text to her number first saying to check her email. This has worked for me in the past with certain clients. Good luck!I appreciate both of these responses.

And, Cassidy, that makes total sense, I should've considered how much time must be spent on texts, alone. (It must take a minute just to sift through the totally-bonkers ones, ha.)

I like your suggestion about a neutral text, to give a "heads up" about an email.

Thanks again.

HereToTry
02-24-23, 08:40
I know this is a random question but has anyone invited the date to your home? I have started to work from home and I have always wanted to play when I'm working. I don't get much free time to hobby so I haven't meant a lot of providers (3). I want to be safe and not get caught up that's why I've always picked Incall but since I started working at home I want to try out service.

Dean27
02-24-23, 12:01
I emailed you with some information, sometimes its best not to post things you don't want the providers to see.


I know this is a random question but has anyone invited the date to your home? I have started to work from home and I have always wanted to play when I'm working. I don't get much free time to hobby so I haven't meant a lot of providers (3). I want to be safe and not get caught up that's why I've always picked Incall but since I started working at home I want to try out service.

OliverTwist500
02-24-23, 12:38
I know this is a random question but has anyone invited the date to your home? I have started to work from home and I have always wanted to play when I'm working. I don't get much free time to hobby so I haven't meant a lot of providers (3). I want to be safe and not get caught up that's why I've always picked Incall but since I started working at home I want to try out service.If I recall correctly, Bottum and some others have done so with mixed results. It's one thing to outcall to your hotel, another to your home. Biggest potential threat is to your anonymity and safety. You open yourself up to all sorts of unintended / unexpected issues.

OT500/501

Benz1
02-24-23, 14:20
I know this is a random question but has anyone invited the date to your home? I have started to work from home and I have always wanted to play when I'm working. I don't get much free time to hobby so I haven't meant a lot of providers (3). I want to be safe and not get caught up that's why I've always picked Incall but since I started working at home I want to try out service.No it's not OK, read the new members guide. Start at the back and read back to page one.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide

Stay safe,read the NMG

Bottum
02-24-23, 15:38
No it's not OK, read the new members guide. Start at the back and read back to page one.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31718-New-Member-Guide

Stay safe,read the NMGThere's too many risks having a provider come to you place, especially if you have a partner, spouse or significant other around. Perhaps less issue if your single and live alone. Most spouses would go berserk if they knew your entertaining providers at your domicile, and difficult to explain if any evidences are found in that regards. More over the person who comes to your door may not be who you expect or totally not your cup of tea. It's a mental strain to send someone packing, or be intimate with someone if you're wondering if your SO will show up unexpectedly. Unless she's dropped off, her car is evidence someone visiting. Biggest concern would be your place is now known by the provider who could have evil intentions or if inside, stealing or robbery could be issues. Bottum out.

Benz1
02-24-23, 17:45
I know this is a random question but has anyone invited the date to your home? I have started to work from home and I have always wanted to play when I'm working. I don't get much free time to hobby so I haven't meant a lot of providers (3). I want to be safe and not get caught up that's why I've always picked Incall but since I started working at home I want to try out service.The safest way to experience this fucking while working drive is to rent a hotel room with good wifi then call any girl you want without worry of being stalked and robbed In your home a week later. There have been reports of that happening to our members.

The girl showing up usually doesn't look like the pics.

Stay smart stay safe.

Monger01
02-24-23, 19:04
VPNs are commonly used across society. Unlike having a 2nd phone, having one doesn't equate to suspicious behavior except maybe in the eyes of some spouses. If nothing else, it protects against data capture for online transactions which ISPs may claim but still remain inherently vulnerable to. They are also great ad and pop up blockers. Nothing untoward about that. So I'm not sure that one need necessarily hide that purchase.

I happen to have NordVPN, which is out of one of the Nordic countries, on all my tech. It is common knowledge in our house. Like having a Bitdefender family plan. They are probably in the top 2 of vpns. Apart from being European which makes any US data requests arduous anyway, they have zero-logging so no user data is stored as well. Both Russia and India tried to force data retention upon them for their own reasons. NordSec, the parent company, declined and pulled up subsidiary roots. I've seen online reviews claiming that NordVPN is expensive. BS. My 2 yr plan runs about $3/ mth for up to 6 devices. A search of the web will find deals. Black Friday is always a good purchase time too. A CC is req'd.

Perhaps a more anonymous vpn is ProtonVPN out of Switzerland. It is free and unlimited without a catch, so no CC (they even point out that last fact). Almost all free VPNs monetize their operations by collecting user data and selling it to third-parties (hmm, sounds antithetical to their function), or by bombarding you with ads. Neither occurs with Proton. It is supported instead by other paid users, odd as that may seem to us. ProtonMail and VPN pitch themselves to journalists and activists worldwide, so privacy, security and cost matters to their business model. They are also zero-logging.

As for tracking, your phone / pc data goes out to the vpn site first rather than the wifi's ISP. So while the ISP facilitates that, it just knows you're connected to the VPN server. That's all. It has no access to where you go from there. As for phone GPS, on most Androids go to Settings Location and turn it off. Probably not advisable for primary phones if you use maps, traffic info, weather info, etc. But it will stop cell tower pinging where you don't want that.Thanks so much! Got VPN and now can access USA on my cell again!

BassMaster1
02-24-23, 20:40
There's too many risks having a provider come to you place, especially if you have a partner, spouse or significant other around. Perhaps less issue if your single and live alone. Most spouses would go berserk if they knew your entertaining providers at your domicile, and difficult to explain if any evidences are found in that regards. More over the person who comes to your door may not be who you expect or totally not your cup of tea. It's a mental strain to send someone packing, or be intimate with someone if you're wondering if your SO will show up unexpectedly. Unless she's dropped off, her car is evidence someone visiting. Biggest concern would be your place is now known by the provider who could have evil intentions or if inside, stealing or robbery could be issues. Bottum out.Years ago during the Scorps / EV days I would occasionally have girls come to my apartment and never had an issue, but it seems it was so different back then you could almost trust your regular girls. I surely wouldn't randomly pick a girl off STG and have her come to my house today that would just be crazy. I did however start seeing a UTR gal awhile ago and after many hookups felt comfortable enough to have her come to my house. Of course I don't have a SO to worry about either but still am always really careful.

Orange99
02-24-23, 23:02
Have any of you visited a girl named Diamond? She seems to go back and forth from Muskegon to Grand Rapids. I tried the number; it had a voice recording to a business. She's a thick built, light skinned black girl. Any thoughts on her? And what about a working number?

Dean27
03-19-23, 13:28
Not sure how she spelt it originally from Sparta I see LEO picked her up and she's in the Kent county Hilton.

Star1967
03-19-23, 20:17
Not sure how she spelt it originally from Sparta I see LEO picked her up and she's in the Kent county Hilton.Is there a link? Just wondering WHY they picked her up.

Dean27
03-19-23, 20:24
Picture from her stg post and kent county. She was picked up for a ton of stuff 9 maybe 10 different counts. Drugs, fleeing, giving false information, prostitution etc. She has been running for a while.


Is there a link? Just wondering WHY they picked her up.

MarkDean
03-19-23, 23:08
Picture from her stg post and kent county. She was picked up for a ton of stuff 9 maybe 10 different counts. Drugs, fleeing, giving false information, prostitution etc. She has been running for a while.They list her weight at 500? That can't be.

WayneJWorld
03-20-23, 08:52
They list her weight at 500? That can't be.Height is 5'00", weight was 115.

Star1967
03-22-23, 11:28
I'll be in Hastings this week, does anyone have a UTR they'd be willing to share? I'm 56, clean, lean and respectable. Looking for similar (except age LOL). Thanks in advance!

Shawtren
04-10-23, 14:21
So the other morning I was driving past a Mobile Home park in Cuttlerville that stirred up all sorts of memories. IT was of an escort back in the EV days, but for the life of me I cannot remember her name. It's driving me nuts trying to figure it out so I thought I would throw it past you guys.

I always called her a Little Leprechaun. She was all of 4'-10" tall and her blazing red hair was pretty much that long too. For a while she kept a patch to show she was a true redhead, but later she shaved it clean.

Anybody here remember her working name?

There were so many providers back in the old days that really formed my hobby life. Back from Escort Vault, and even more so from Scorpsguide. I do enjoy getting lost in thought of them!

Does anybody here remember the little gem spinner Tabitha? A great rate, tight body, and she would spend an extra long time sucking your nutsack for a fresh Big Mac and fries.

Anyway. Play Safe!

Shaw.

White300
04-10-23, 20:16
So the other morning I was driving past a Mobile Home park in Cuttlerville that stirred up all sorts of memories. IT was of an escort back in the EV days, but for the life of me I cannot remember her name. It's driving me nuts trying to figure it out so I thought I would throw it past you guys.

I always called her a Little Leprechaun. She was all of 4'-10" tall and her blazing red hair was pretty much that long too. For a while she kept a patch to show she was a true redhead, but later she shaved it clean.

Anybody here remember her working name?

There were so many providers back in the old days that really formed my hobby life. Back from Escort Vault, and even more so from Scorpsguide. I do enjoy getting lost in thought of them!

Does anybody here remember the little gem spinner Tabitha? A great rate, tight body, and she would spend an extra long time sucking your nutsack for a fresh Big Mac and fries.

Anyway. Play Safe!

Shaw.Or something like that.

StripperTipper
04-10-23, 20:41
You described her to a tee. I was trying hard to set an appointment with her and she up and retires. Just my luck.

ST.


So the other morning I was driving past a Mobile Home park in Cuttlerville that stirred up all sorts of memories. IT was of an escort back in the EV days, but for the life of me I cannot remember her name. It's driving me nuts trying to figure it out so I thought I would throw it past you guys.

I always called her a Little Leprechaun. She was all of 4'-10" tall and her blazing red hair was pretty much that long too. For a while she kept a patch to show she was a true redhead, but later she shaved it clean.

Anybody here remember her working name?

There were so many providers back in the old days that really formed my hobby life. Back from Escort Vault, and even more so from Scorpsguide. I do enjoy getting lost in thought of them!

Does anybody here remember the little gem spinner Tabitha? A great rate, tight body, and she would spend an extra long time sucking your nutsack for a fresh Big Mac and fries.

Anyway. Play Safe!

Shaw.

MagicHands2
04-10-23, 21:11
You described her to a tee. I was trying hard to set an appointment with her and she up and retires. Just my luck.

ST.You must go way back, as I think she might have even been pre-EV and Scorps. You do have an apt description for her. I can't speak to the Culterville location as I only saw her off of 28th St incalls. She was fun, I really enjoyed time spent with her.

Magichands2.

FarmerPete
04-10-23, 21:44
So the other morning I was driving past a Mobile Home park in Cuttlerville that stirred up all sorts of memories. IT was of an escort back in the EV days, but for the life of me I cannot remember her name. It's driving me nuts trying to figure it out so I thought I would throw it past you guys.

I always called her a Little Leprechaun. She was all of 4'-10" tall and her blazing red hair was pretty much that long too. For a while she kept a patch to show she was a true redhead, but later she shaved it clean.

Anybody here remember her working name?

There were so many providers back in the old days that really formed my hobby life. Back from Escort Vault, and even more so from Scorpsguide. I do enjoy getting lost in thought of them!

Does anybody here remember the little gem spinner Tabitha? A great rate, tight body, and she would spend an extra long time sucking your nutsack for a fresh Big Mac and fries.

Anyway. Play Safe!

Shaw.She was a sweetheart, I was lucky enough to be chosen as her photographer.

Dean27
04-11-23, 18:31
Does anyone know what ever happened to this chick? I believe she went by trailer park barbie or something like that. She would post more down by Kalamazoo but would post in GR when she was around.

BassMaster1
04-11-23, 19:26
She was a sweetheart, I was lucky enough to be chosen as her photographer.Wow a blast from the past I saw her a few times she wasn't FS but liked everything else great BBBJ and mostly did outcalls I think cause of her kids. I remember she had special 150 for 2 hr man those were the days! Thanks for the pic.

Dean27
04-11-23, 21:09
Anyone having issues posting pictures? I've tried with and without WiFi. Nothing will upload.

Benz1
04-11-23, 21:44
Anyone having issues posting pictures? I've tried with and without WiFi. Nothing will upload.This site will not post pictures from new phones. Need to crop them to make them fit. Kind of pain, the new phones are have better cameras and larger pictures.

NoseJelly
04-11-23, 22:53
This site will not post pictures from new phones. Need to crop them to make them fit. Kind of pain, the new phones are have better cameras and larger pictures.Professor Benz is correct. I believe the maximum size is 648 x648 pixels. Maybe best to set your phone's camera to low resolution.

Benz1
04-11-23, 23:23
Professor Benz is correct. I believe the maximum size is 648 x648 pixels. Maybe best to set your phone's camera to low resolution.Croping the sides usually works for me, the length seems to be within tolerance.

Shawtren
04-12-23, 14:24
She was a sweetheart, I was lucky enough to be chosen as her photographer.Thanks Farmer. The picture just reinforces my memories! I loved holding back that hair for her BBBJ! Feel free to send me more if you have them!

BadBoyFourU
04-12-23, 16:56
Wow a blast from the past I saw her a few times she wasn't FS but liked everything else great BBBJ and mostly did outcalls I think cause of her kids. I remember she had special 150 for 2 hr man those were the days! Thanks for the pic.Sandy was her name, and toward the end if you would book an entire night (6 hrs) she would do FS. Too expensive for even now, but was very tempting!

GR Man74
04-13-23, 16:09
Or something like that.Peaches, is different than MQ, and was FS. I thought I remember her moving to Florida, but would make trips up here in the summer and open up to some extra curricular activities. Peaches also had awesome long red hair, but not as long as MQ. Peaches was a peach though.

Dean27
04-23-23, 06:37
It's looking like I will have to step away from the fun for a year again in hopes more women become providers. I am picky I can admit it. Really tired of seeing the low quality addicted women on stg everytime you scroll through. Anytime I scan Tryst I laugh because they all want to know everything about you. Thats a cold day in hell before someone knows my real name for a hookup. I don't have time sadly to work on finding a UTR or FWB. Oh I how miss the good old days.

E1030
04-27-23, 10:16
Does anyone know anything about this site? Are these girls real? Is it a legit website?

Thanks for the report.

TomG0106
04-27-23, 13:20
Or something like that.There was a Peaches231 that operated out of Muskegon that was a redhead. Fantastic.

TypicalDude
05-02-23, 14:03
I'm guessing there are good reasons for the universal-size quotas for inboxes.

But it'd be great if very active (read: very helpful) members could get 2-3 x the size of less active users. And I'm not talking about me. I'm thinking about members like Benz, Milan, Gene, Cassidy. They probably have to clear out their inboxes all the time, to make room for new PMs.

It's also possible they don't want a bigger inbox quota, but, just a thought.

ChrisLebek
05-04-23, 10:21
Does anyone know anything about this site? Are these girls real? Is it a legit website?

Thanks for the report.It is real, but it's filled with scam accs. The only cities I've seen some real providers posting is Detroit and Phoenix!

Pros: It has its own review / comments section built in and videos of providers.

Con: It's filled with spam / scam accounts so be very careful and use your judgement on who's real or not.

Dean27
05-04-23, 14:49
Does anyone have any ladies near Baldwin, Luther, Idlewild, Irons, white cloud? I'd really like to find a go to lady for any time o take a trip to the cabin. Only 1 posts in Baldwin and she's not worth it.

Broadway Jay
05-04-23, 22:23
Does anyone have any ladies near Baldwin, Luther, Idlewild, Irons, white cloud? I'd really like to find a go to lady for any time o take a trip to the cabin. Only 1 posts in Baldwin and she's not worth it.I've got one in Baldwin. Maybe we can trade info. PM me.

Amik99
05-07-23, 05:45
So the other morning I was driving past a Mobile Home park in Cuttlerville that stirred up all sorts of memories. IT was of an escort back in the EV days, but for the life of me I cannot remember her name. It's driving me nuts trying to figure it out so I thought I would throw it past you guys.

I always called her a Little Leprechaun. She was all of 4'-10" tall and her blazing red hair was pretty much that long too. For a while she kept a patch to show she was a true redhead, but later she shaved it clean.

Anybody here remember her working name?

There were so many providers back in the old days that really formed my hobby life. Back from Escort Vault, and even more so from Scorpsguide. I do enjoy getting lost in thought of them!

Does anybody here remember the little gem spinner Tabitha? A great rate, tight body, and she would spend an extra long time sucking your nutsack for a fresh Big Mac and fries.

Anyway. Play Safe!

Shaw.I remember! Those were the days! Memory is foggy but as I recall there was an EV meet and greet in the clubhouse of that trailer park at one time, I wish I could remember the names of the two spinner providers that were popular then that put on a show at said M&G. Was it silver eagle who was very active senior member then? That was a long time ago!

Shawtren
05-08-23, 09:55
I remember! Those were the days! Memory is foggy but as I recall there was an EV meet and greet in the clubhouse of that trailer park at one time, I wish I could remember the names of the two spinner providers that were popular then that put on a show at said M&G. Was it silver eagle who was very active senior member then? That was a long time ago!Yes! Silver Eagle was the one that would put together all these events. He would place them in GR, Lansing and Detroit to spread the love. Some times bars, sometime restaurants and sometimes private places. They were a blast. Blow jobs under the table, quickies in a coat roam, and if the provider didn't have a room, you had a possible overnighter as well.

NutsAboutButs
05-08-23, 12:26
Yes! Silver Eagle was the one that would put together all these events. He would place them in GR, Lansing and Detroit to spread the love. Some times bars, sometime restaurants and sometimes private places. They were a blast. Blow jobs under the table, quickies in a coat roam, and if the provider didn't have a room, you had a possible overnighter as well.I think it was Lauriedolz. Laurie and Bobbi couldn't beat that duo.

Dean27
05-08-23, 15:08
Shouldn't the providers supply condoms? Especially when they say no BBFS. I have had it a few times recently where the provider doesn't have them. Not to say I wouldn't go bb with the right one which I have had a couple I couldn't resist not to.

I ask if they provide BBFS even if I'm only seeking a BBBJ simply because it gives me a idea of what type of service or female to expect. It also has turned me away a couple times.

I think If your offering the service you should be supplying the condoms. Who's to say the guys seeing the girls aren't poking holes in them.

Hollywood55
05-09-23, 06:55
I'm guessing there are good reasons for the universal-size quotas for inboxes.

But it'd be great if very active (read: very helpful) members could get 2-3 x the size of less active users. And I'm not talking about me. I'm thinking about members like Benz, Milan, Gene, Cassidy. They probably have to clear out their inboxes all the time, to make room for new PMs.

It's also possible they don't want a bigger inbox quota, but, just a thought.That actually is a great idea!!

Laptop1000
05-09-23, 12:55
Can someone tell me where The Den is Located?

Laptop1000
05-09-23, 12:57
Is anyone else having issues getting into this site? Its been days since I was able to get in. Are they having connection issues?

Benz1
05-09-23, 13:47
Is anyone else having issues getting into this site? Its been days since I was able to get in. Are they having connection issues?Dump Verizon.

Get a boost phone, problem solved.

BoatLuver
05-09-23, 21:12
Dump Verizon.

Get a boost phone, problem solved.If you're on Verizon you cannot access this site over the air, only through wifi.

HangLow3
05-09-23, 22:27
If you're on Verizon you cannot access this site over the air, only through wifi.Just get VPN. Free. Am I cheap? Hell yes if I can use extra money for poontang. I am the walrus.

LakeGuy70
05-10-23, 05:19
Wondering if anyone can help me out here, I read somewhere I think on this site a woman that offered haircuts with massage and happy endings. If this is true and someone has her digits that would be willing to share I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.

Benz1
05-10-23, 10:04
Just get VPN. Free. Am I cheap? Hell yes if I can use extra money for poontang. I am the walrus.I'm cheap too.

Safety and security have to be my number one priority.

VPN is traceable to LE, not the provider.

Cash paied Boost hobby phone is woth it to me.

BayCityGuy
05-10-23, 13:25
If you're on Verizon you cannot access this site over the air, only through wifi.You also can connect with your phone using a vpn. I thought the sight was down at first.

Benz1
05-10-23, 14:38
Wondering if anyone can help me out here, I read somewhere I think on this site a woman that offered haircuts with massage and happy endings. If this is true and someone has her digits that would be willing to share I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.I got my last haircut from Piper at Serenity.

Piper is a licensed cosmetologist.

I'm glad she returned to my favorite Parlor.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/kalamazoo/massage/caucasian_e/hustler-pornstar-piper-megan-/600611269460

Dean27
05-12-23, 12:56
I can't remember her name. Texted her with my offer and I got a response from what appears to be her Bf. Handler countering My offer saying my girl and I. So I said oh 2 girls and I never got a response back.

They-he immediately asked if I had cash. Might be looking to rob. You have been warned.

Benz1
05-12-23, 17:08
Shouldn't the providers supply condoms? Especially when they say no BBFS. I have had it a few times recently where the provider doesn't have them. Not to say I wouldn't go bb with the right one which I have had a couple I couldn't resist not to.

I ask if they provide BBFS even if I'm only seeking a BBBJ simply because it gives me a idea of what type of service or female to expect. It also has turned me away a couple times.

I think If your offering the service you should be supplying the condoms. Who's to say the guys seeing the girls aren't poking holes in them.Most providers don't have money for a large inventory or transportation to get condums.

I remember Tina the RedHott Red Head telling me about a client she asked to bring condums. When he arrived, he dropped the donation on the table minus the cost of the condums including the receipt.

She was pissed. LOL.

I saw a providermany years ago that didn't have condums she also didn't inform me to bring them. Her menu did not include BBBJ so basically you're fucked if you gave your money before you received the information, .

Yup that happened to me in my early days of Mongering. I ended up with a decent massage and HJ for the 80 dollars.

That's why I never give money before services.

Jlibb1973
05-14-23, 15:42
Most providers don't have money for a large inventory or transportation to get condums.

I remember Tina the RedHott Red Head telling me about a client she asked to bring condums. When he arrived, he dropped the donation on the table minus the cost of the condums including the receipt.

She was pissed. LOL.

I saw a providermany years ago that didn't have condums she also didn't inform me to bring them. Her menu did not include BBBJ so basically you're fucked if you gave your money before you received the information, .

Yup that happened to me in my early days of Mongering. I ended up with a decent massage and HJ for the 80 dollars.

That's why I never give money before services.Uniforms are there or walk.

Trobber222
05-14-23, 21:11
I got my last haircut from Piper at Serenity.

Piper is a licensed cosmetologist.

I'm glad she returned to my favorite Parlor.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/kalamazoo/massage/caucasian_e/hustler-pornstar-piper-megan-/600611269460So. Ad's saying porn "star". Searched Xhamster, Redtube and Youporn- no hits on videos for Piper Megan.

What does one have to do to be considered a star? Extras on movies sets acted in a movie but are not quite stars yet.

Could be wrong. Open to opinions.

Benz1
05-14-23, 21:12
So. Ad's saying porn "star". Searched Xhamster, Redtube and Youporn- no hits on videos for Piper Megan.

What does one have to do to be considered a star? Extras on movies sets acted in a movie but are not quite stars yet.

Could be wrong. Open to opinions.She gave me her pornstar name to search on porn hub.

Videos are real and real nice.

Trobber222
05-14-23, 21:15
She gave me her pornstar name to search on porn hub.

Videos are real and real nice.Can you share the name? She is advertising the name on STG…granted she is hot as F…but needs to back up the star cred…

Benz1
05-14-23, 22:00
Can you share the name? She is advertising the name on STGgranted she is hot as Fbut needs to back up the star credShe was paid for the movies and hasn't received any revenue since.

She might give you the name when you visit her at the Parlor. Thats how I got it. She charges to give up the name. Since it's still out there, she wants to keep making money from it.

I took these pictures of her, last time I was at Serenity.

Benz1
05-14-23, 23:40
Can you share the name? She is advertising the name on STGgranted she is hot as Fbut needs to back up the star credShe's a brunette in the videos.

The tattoos under her left tit and to the right of her pussy are a perfect match, that's how you'll know you got the right video.
Next time I see her, I'll get a better shot of both Tats with a front nude
shot. This is the best tat shot I have right now.

Cj357
05-15-23, 00:51
After all the rave reviews about Jenna's oral skills, I wanted to set up something. But noticed she hasn't posted in about a month. Does anyone know if she has gone utr or taking a break. Message her once with no reply.

Thanks.

CJ.

Cassidy69
05-15-23, 07:36
Most providers don't have money for a large inventory or transportation to get condums.

I remember Tina the RedHott Red Head telling me about a client she asked to bring condums. When he arrived, he dropped the donation on the table minus the cost of the condums including the receipt.

She was pissed. LOL.

I saw a providermany years ago that didn't have condums she also didn't inform me to bring them. Her menu did not include BBBJ so basically you're fucked if you gave your money before you received the information, .

Yup that happened to me in my early days of Mongering. I ended up with a decent massage and HJ for the 80 dollars.

That's why I never give money before services.I'm just curious the caliber of chick's you see. LOL. You always talk about how we can't afford shit or how hard up we are like we are so desperate. LOL. I don't know many girls personally in this field, but I know if I was doing this and still couldn't afford a stock pile of condoms I think I'd find a new gig. LOL. I obviously can't speak for everyone, but I personally do this because the money is frickin phenomenal and it allows me to provide an amazing life for my family and still be home by 3 everyday and on weekends.

No offense. But maybe it's time to level up LOL.

BashTheJohnson
05-15-23, 07:55
So. Ad's saying porn "star". Searched Xhamster, Redtube and Youporn- no hits on videos for Piper Megan.

What does one have to do to be considered a star? Extras on movies sets acted in a movie but are not quite stars yet.

Could be wrong. Open to opinions.Megan Matthews is her porn name. When you do a search, add porn star to the search, otherwise you will find a book author.

Blackfire
05-15-23, 08:16
Megan Matthews is her porn name. When you do a search, add porn star to the search, otherwise you will find a book author.Thanks for sharing! Some good watching, makes me want to go see her now!

Benz1
05-15-23, 11:22
I'm just curious the caliber of chick's you see. LOL. You always talk about how we can't afford shit or how hard up we are like we are so desperate. LOL. I don't know many girls personally in this field, but I know if I was doing this and still couldn't afford a stock pile of condoms I think I'd find a new gig. LOL. I obviously can't speak for everyone, but I personally do this because the money is frickin phenomenal and it allows me to provide an amazing life for my family and still be home by 3 everyday and on weekends.

No offense. But maybe it's time to level up LOL.In my opinion Saying they're broke all the time is their subtle way of begging. Transportation is probably an issue because they don't have a license to drive. They always have money for Uber which I think is more expensive than owning your own vehicle.
The creative ways they beg is humorous.

They also complain a lot about mongers cancelations, late or no shows. Many times it's our seniors on this board.
I don't make appointments, get my fun on the run. Many times I'm actually filling in for cancelations or no shows.
While the guys keep canceling and pissing them off, I slide in and make them happy again.
Meanwhile thanks for the laugh.

Member #6806
05-15-23, 12:02
Thanks for sharing! Some good watching, makes me want to go see her now!She is hot.

Never seen Piper.

Are the videos representative of the services she provides?

Benz1
05-15-23, 12:07
She is hot.

Never seen Piper.

Are the videos representative of the services she provides?She's talented, HOT, not cheap.
No need to show face pics , she has tattoos that identify her

Moonglow913
05-15-23, 13:20
She's talented, HOT, not cheap.
No need to show face pics , she has tattoos that identify herYou can't leave it like that! A few more details please. In one of those pictures there are four ladies. And who is the one about to go down on Piper?

Benz1
05-15-23, 13:22
Just spoke to Megan about her stage name being exposed on usasexguide and the questions about services.

She said she requires minimum 3 visits before she gives out all the goodies. Unless you have a password. I can provide your special password.
Pipers menu does not include Greek.
My mailbox is full, request the password here on General Reports.

Variety1
05-15-23, 14:37
She's very sexy, I'm interested. She could possibly set up an account on here as well to additional vet clients with the password (s).

If she hosted, and moved to escorting, I think she'd do quite well for herself.


Just spoke to Megan about her stage name being exposed on usasexguide and the questions about services.

She said she requires minimum 3 visits before she gives out all the goodies. Unless you have a password. I can provide your special password.
Pipers menu does not include Greek.
My mailbox is full, request the password here on General Reports.

Benz1
05-15-23, 14:46
She's very sexy, I'm interested. She could possibly set up an account on here as well to additional vet clients with the password (s).

If she hosted, and moved to escorting, I think she'd do quite well for herself.You're right but she might not want to join a club where members freely give out her information like her Stage name without permission.
One bad apple makes the rest look untrustworthy.
Working in a salon adds security to the hobby for the girls. There's usually someone in another room that can help , if there's a problem.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/massage/caucasian_e/hustler-pornstar-piper-megan-/600611269460

The password I'm sending you allows open communication, when you text her the password she will know you are Frenz of Benz and not a wild card that will spread information without permission.

JustinFromGr
05-15-23, 15:04
You're right but she might not want to join a club where members freely give out her information like her Stage name without permission.
One bad apple makes the rest look untrustworthy.
Working in a salon adds security to the hobby for the girls. There's usually someone in another room that can help , if there's a problem.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/massage/caucasian_e/hustler-pornstar-piper-megan-/600611269460

The password I'm sending you allows open communication, when you text her the password she will know you are Frenz of Benz and not a wild card that will spread information without permission.I would appreciate a password. I'm looking for a new provider and she is hot!

RallyToo
05-15-23, 16:50
Just spoke to Megan about her stage name being exposed on usasexguide and the questions about services.

She said she requires minimum 3 visits before she gives out all the goodies. Unless you have a password. I can provide your special password.
Pipers menu does not include Greek.
My mailbox is full, request the password here on General Reports.Benz, please dm me the password. Thanks!

NoseJelly
05-15-23, 17:45
You're right but she might not want to join a club where members freely give out her information like her Stage name without permission.
One bad apple makes the rest look untrustworthy.
Working in a salon adds security to the hobby for the girls. There's usually someone in another room that can help , if there's a problem.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/massage/caucasian_e/hustler-pornstar-piper-megan-/600611269460

The password I'm sending you allows open communication, when you text her the password she will know you are Frenz of Benz and not a wild card that will spread information without permission.I'm curious as to why the stage name being put on a Monger Forum is a big deal? Unless it's her real name and her address and phone # can be found. Faceless photos with easily identifiable tattoos can easily be searched on Tineye or google! If a lady doesn't want her identity found out online, the fucking tattoos should be blurred or erased with a secure digital photo editing app before they're uploaded to any website! Lack of planning makes for disappointing outcomes!

Think.

Blackfire
05-15-23, 17:46
Megan Matthews is her porn name. When you do a search, add porn star to the search, otherwise you will find a book author.I see Bends was a little miffed you usurped his scam to have her sell the "name" to guys. I would guess your sharing with all post did more to drive business to Megan / Piper than the password program does.

Benz1
05-15-23, 19:33
I'm curious as to why the stage name being put on a Monger Forum is a big deal? Unless it's her real name and her address and phone # can be found. Faceless photos with easily identifiable tattoos can easily be searched on Tineye or google! If a lady doesn't want her identity found out online, the fucking tattoos should be blurred or erased with a secure digital photo editing app before they're uploaded to any website! Lack of planning makes for disappointing outcomes!

Think.I agree totally.

I don't think it's about the security of who she is more likely her personal preference to give it out herself.

When she gave me her Stage Name she told me she asks everyone to not give it to anyone.

That was a very easy request.

Benz1
05-15-23, 19:43
You can't leave it like that! A few more details please. In one of those pictures there are four ladies. And who is the one about to go down on Piper?My guess is Peyton Simmons, I'm not sure you'll have to ask Piper.

She did tell me Peyton Simmons likes eating her pussy.

Benz1
05-15-23, 19:47
For the mongers who can't read.

The Piper password is for convenience so you don't have to visit her 3 times Before you have access to all services.

Everyone seeing her 3 or more times has access, no need for a password.

FireFly87
05-15-23, 21:05
For the mongers who can't read.

The Piper password is for convenience so you don't have to visit her 3 times Before you have access to all services.


Everyone seeing her 3 or more times has access, no need for a password.I would be very appreciative for the password.

Moonglow913
05-15-23, 22:15
My guess is Peyton Simmons, I'm not sure you'll have to ask Piper.

She did tell me Peyton Simmons likes eating her pussy.If I read your post right you requested we ask for the password here. So, please pass it along. Thanks.

White300
05-16-23, 15:06
Just get VPN. Free. Am I cheap? Hell yes if I can use extra money for poontang. I am the walrus.What do you guys recommend? My phone won't load STG anymore.

BikerBoy1340
05-16-23, 15:56
For the mongers who can't read.

The Piper password is for convenience so you don't have to visit her 3 times Before you have access to all services.

Everyone seeing her 3 or more times has access, no need for a password.Please share the password with me. Definitely want to see Piper.

JmSuttr
05-16-23, 16:32
What do you guys recommend? My phone won't load STG anymore.It's been a while since I downloaded it, but I created a throwaway email account (free) at proton (dot) me, or protonmail (dot) com, and then I was asked if I wanted to download their mobile VPN (also free).

They didn't require any personal info and, although I gave them a recovery email address, I think you can decline that option. Both email and VPN have worked fine for me and, from all the reports I've read, Proton seems reputable and very privacy conscious.

Also, as an added feature, they offer a free desktop version of their VPN. That's also worked well for me. They offer paid upgrades, but they don't pester you about it and the free versions are perfectly fine, IMO.

JustinFromGr
05-16-23, 17:02
What do you guys recommend? My phone won't load STG anymore.I'm a big fan of Private Internet Access. It's cheap (buy a couple years at a time) and they have a no logging policy that has been taken to court and proved they don't log. Been using it for years. I would recommend staying away from free VPN as if you aren't paying then you are the product (so there's tracking info, etc.)

Gene2
05-16-23, 17:16
VPNs are commonly used across society. Unlike having a 2nd phone, having one doesn't equate to suspicious behavior except maybe in the eyes of some spouses. If nothing else, it protects against data capture for online transactions which ISPs may claim but still remain inherently vulnerable to. They are also great ad and pop up blockers. Nothing untoward about that. So I'm not sure that one need necessarily hide that purchase.

I happen to have NordVPN, which is out of one of the Nordic countries, on all my tech. It is common knowledge in our house. Like having a Bitdefender family plan. They are probably in the top 2 of vpns. Apart from being European which makes any US data requests arduous anyway, they have zero-logging so no user data is stored as well. Both Russia and India tried to force data retention upon them for their own reasons. NordSec, the parent company, declined and pulled up subsidiary roots. I've seen online reviews claiming that NordVPN is expensive. BS. My 2 yr plan runs about $3/ mth for up to 6 devices. A search of the web will find deals. Black Friday is always a good purchase time too. A CC is req'd.

Perhaps a more anonymous vpn is ProtonVPN out of Switzerland. It is free and unlimited without a catch, so no CC (they even point out that last fact). Almost all free VPNs monetize their operations by collecting user data and selling it to third-parties (hmm, sounds antithetical to their function), or by bombarding you with ads. Neither occurs with Proton. It is supported instead by other paid users, odd as that may seem to us. ProtonMail and VPN pitch themselves to journalists and activists worldwide, so privacy, security and cost matters to their business model. They are also zero-logging..Here's a great answer that includes a reference for a free VPN. Obviously Oliver knows his stuff in this genre.

Delegate.

G2.

TypicalDude
05-16-23, 17:27
I think the following three changes would make "Skip The Games" way better.

1. The "Female Escorts" section should have a zero-penis rule, incl. Both real and fake ones. I don't want to see penises or what comes out of them. Penises are not Female Escorts, nor vice-versa. They could have a section for penises, and then people could choose that section and see all the penises they want.

2. The "Female Escorts" section should have the option for visitors to filter out "group providers" where the pictures are almost never the actual talent. For example, the endless images of Asian providers (often with phone numbers on the images) that are more like "agencies" instead of actual, individual providers.

3. STG mods enforce a requirement that all ads posted in "Female Escorts" and "Massage Parlors" categories are actual in-call and / or out-call services. Meaning, these sections prohibit ads that are only for "pics, vids, livestreams," etc. Those virtual services are very different and these ads are often misleading.

These suggestions re brought to you by People For Changes That Will Never Happen.

God bless and good night.

MarkWa
05-16-23, 17:30
My guess is Peyton Simmons, I'm not sure you'll have to ask Piper.

She did tell me Peyton Simmons likes eating her pussy.I have never seen her personally, but the tattoo on this photo is under her left boob and the tattoo in her STG page is under the right boob??

Benz1
05-16-23, 18:09
I have never seen her personally, but the tattoo on this photo is under her left boob and the tattoo in her STG page is under the right boob??Welcome back Mr. MarkWa. Haven't seen you in awhile.

Not sure if the image is reversed from it being a mirror shot??

I took this picture of her tattoo.

It's real.

MarkWa
05-16-23, 18:37
Welcome back Mr. MarkWa. Haven't seen you in awhile.

Not sure if the image is reversed from it being a mirror shot??

I took this picture of her tattoo.

It's real.Your picture is obviously real, I was just wondering if her STG ad was of real pictures since tattoos didn't match. And you are right, haven't been active here or in the hobby in quite some time. Not interested in paying the rates post Covid. Probably out for good actually.

Benz1
05-16-23, 18:52
Your picture is obviously real, I was just wondering if her STG ad was of real pictures since tattoos didn't match. And you are right, haven't been active here or in the hobby in quite some time. Not interested in paying the rates post Covid. Probably out for good actually.Not all providers have the post covid pricing.

A few weeks ago Angel Luv contacted me on FB about returning to the hobby. Then she disappeared again. I'm sure it's a BF on again off again. She would never upcharge us like these new providers. I'm paying the old rates because they contact me on slow days or when they get canceled and really needed the money.

90 percent of them contact me through FB. I'm their go to because they know I'll show up when I say I do.

You can do it too MarkWa, start your searching onTuesday about 10 am. Your call will be the only one, they will be happy to hear from you and possibly give you pre covid rates. Always remember average girls do it better. The Back of their Heads all look the same.

MarkWa
05-16-23, 19:00
Not all providers have the post covid pricing.

A few weeks ago Angel Luv contacted me on FB about returning to the hobby. Then she disappeared again. I'm sure it's a BF on again off again. She would never upcharge us like these new providers. I'm paying the old rates because they contact me on slow days or when they get canceled and really needed the money.

90 percent of them contact me through FB. I'm their go to because they know I'll show up when I say I do.

You can do it too MarkWa, start your searching onTuesday about 10 am. Your call will be the only one, they will be happy to hear from you and possibly give you pre covid rates. Always remember average girls do it better. The Back of their Heads all look the same.Will keep that in mind if the urge ever gets the best of me. Until then good luck to all.

ChanceTakin
05-16-23, 23:16
Just spoke to Megan about her stage name being exposed on usasexguide and the questions about services.

She said she requires minimum 3 visits before she gives out all the goodies. Unless you have a password. I can provide your special password.
Pipers menu does not include Greek.
My mailbox is full, request the password here on General Reports.May I obtain the password?

Swcdt
05-17-23, 07:32
I have never seen her personally, but the tattoo on this photo is under her left boob and the tattoo in her STG page is under the right boob??I've met her personally and I've seen her videos. It is 100% her, she's a very fun girl.

Shawtren
05-17-23, 11:26
I tend to enjoy car dates for my part of this hobby life. My favorite place to go for them used to be the Meijer parking lot. I would park toward the last few spots where there were other cars waiting overnight for service at a closed tire shop. If I parked just right then I could stand outside the van with my provider sitting on the floor and go to pound town and not worry.

Then Meijer got the idea of installing those mobile camera pods on the trailers with the crank up tower and the blue flashing lights. Shit!

I have a friend that is a security consultant, and he has installed all sorts of cameras in places you would not think. Places like self-serve car washes, cemeteries, construction sites, and city parks. The technology is incredible, and the cost is lower than ever. Absolutely tiny, with ion batteries and motion activation that let them last for two years in place.

So now I am looking for better go to spots that are easily accessible for me to try. Anyone got good ideas?

Benz1
05-17-23, 15:59
I tend to enjoy car dates for my part of this hobby life. My favorite place to go for them used to be the Meijer parking lot. I would park toward the last few spots where there were other cars waiting overnight for service at a closed tire shop. If I parked just right then I could stand outside the van with my provider sitting on the floor and go to pound town and not worry.

Then Meijer got the idea of installing those mobile camera pods on the trailers with the crank up tower and the blue flashing lights. Shit!

I have a friend that is a security consultant, and he has installed all sorts of cameras in places you would not think. Places like self-serve car washes, cemeteries, construction sites, and city parks. The technology is incredible, and the cost is lower than ever. Absolutely tiny, with ion batteries and motion activation that let them last for two years in place.

So now I am looking for better go to spots that are easily accessible for me to try. Anyone got good ideas?Stay in your car and park underneath them, the camera can't see through the roof of your car. Plus I always carry a black sun shield for my windshield.

No problems here.

Benz1
05-17-23, 16:08
All the Piper pics are real.
I snapped all of these pics last time I saw her
She's real easy to contact.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/massage/caucasian_e/hustler-pornstar-piper-megan-/600611269460

The group sex pic is from a porn movie

PrivateParts
05-17-23, 19:02
Anyone have any suggestions (or warnings) on how best to share sexually explicit videos? Text and email limit quality and / or size, and I'd like to share large decent quality videos, and restrict access to who can see it. At least not something that a search engine might find. I thought about just using google drive but wasn't sure. Thanks in advance.

P. P.

TypicalDude
05-17-23, 20:51
Anyone have any suggestions (or warnings) on how best to share sexually explicit videos? Text and email limit quality and / or size, and I'd like to share large decent quality videos, and restrict access to who can see it. At least not something that a search engine might find. I thought about just using google drive but wasn't sure. Thanks in advance.

P. P.Google Drive can be a good way to share and control access to media, because you can add people individually (and remove them as necessary). I use it for this, to share regular movies with friends.

One big, big caveat: you'll want to make sure to loosely compress each file, as a. Zip or. Rar. Because the company (Google) has bots to scan folders for audio / video files, to ensure copyright compliance. If you loosely zip your movies, they'll be excluded from these scans, because they're not media (they're zip files, containing media, which Google doesn't scan.).

There's a compression app (free) called 7 zip that works great, and it lets you compress things as "storage only" so it doesn't take long on the compression or extraction end of things.

CandidGuy35
05-17-23, 23:55
I tend to enjoy car dates for my part of this hobby life. My favorite place to go for them used to be the Meijer parking lot. I would park toward the last few spots where there were other cars waiting overnight for service at a closed tire shop. If I parked just right then I could stand outside the van with my provider sitting on the floor and go to pound town and not worry.

Then Meijer got the idea of installing those mobile camera pods on the trailers with the crank up tower and the blue flashing lights. Shit!

I have a friend that is a security consultant, and he has installed all sorts of cameras in places you would not think. Places like self-serve car washes, cemeteries, construction sites, and city parks. The technology is incredible, and the cost is lower than ever. Absolutely tiny, with ion batteries and motion activation that let them last for two years in place.

So now I am looking for better go to spots that are easily accessible for me to try. Anyone got good ideas?One time I went to family fare to get some groceries. I park next to guy who was sitting in his van with his vehicle on. Some homeless lady walk by in parking lot. Went home didn't think anything about it. Then cops knocked on my door asked if I saw this homeless lady in the family fare parking lot. I said I did see her when I was leaving Family Fare. Well I guess she stole items from store and gave it to the get away Van that I parked next to. Then when I was leaving the Van left at the exact same time. Once I showed them my Family Fare receipt they knew I wasn't part of this criminal group. But it was interested they got my plate from the parking lot cameras. And also got a close up pic of the homeless lady in the parking lot zoom in. Be careful any place that has cameras since these new surveillance cameras can zoom in right into your vehicle.

JustinFromGr
05-18-23, 10:11
Google Drive can be a good way to share and control access to media, because you can add people individually (and remove them as necessary). I use it for this, to share regular movies with friends.

One big, big caveat: you'll want to make sure to loosely compress each file, as a. Zip or. Rar. Because the company (Google) has bots to scan folders for audio / video files, to ensure copyright compliance. If you loosely zip your movies, they'll be excluded from these scans, because they're not media (they're zip files, containing media, which Google doesn't scan.).

There's a compression app (free) called 7 zip that works great, and it lets you compress things as "storage only" so it doesn't take long on the compression or extraction end of things.To build on this, it may be obvious but I'll say it anyway, you should start a new google account or make sure you're hiding your name, etc. I've had good drives shared with me and then you go in and look at the sharing permissions and can clearly see the full name of the person that shared out the info. Double check your settings and if possible, send yourself a link from an outside account so that you can see how it looks to external users and make sure you're not sharing your personal info.

Shawtren
05-19-23, 11:37
One time I went to family fare to get some groceries. I park next to guy who was sitting in his van with his vehicle on. Some homeless lady walk by in parking lot. Went home didn't think anything about it. Then cops knocked on my door asked if I saw this homeless lady in the family fare parking lot. I said I did see her when I was leaving Family Fare. Well I guess she stole items from store and gave it to the get away Van that I parked next to. Then when I was leaving the Van left at the exact same time. Once I showed them my Family Fare receipt they knew I wasn't part of this criminal group. But it was interested they got my plate from the parking lot cameras. And also got a close up pic of the homeless lady in the parking lot zoom in. Be careful any place that has cameras since these new surveillance cameras can zoom in right into your vehicle.That's what I'm saying! And to put a shade across the windshield is fine, but it does nothing for the side windows, and also limits you from seeing potential issues of passers by or patrols.

It's starting to look like I need one of the old full size vans from the 70's! Far out man!

MagicHands2
05-19-23, 17:16
It's starting to look like I need one of the old full size vans from the 70's! Far out man!One of these with shag carpet inside and out, ought to really seal the deal with the ladies!

Magichands2.

Dean27
05-21-23, 18:45
Has anyone ever had the hots for one of the providers that if given the chance you would be with them as in a long term relationship or marriage? I have had 2 that I absolutely thought were pretty and would of loved to help them get back on their feet whether it would of been having them as a gf or?? Ivy was one of them lmao. I met sexy Sammy before she went down hill she was actually really hot but not so much anymore.

DjBiker
05-23-23, 11:55
Has anyone ever had the hots for one of the providers that if given the chance you would be with them as in a long term relationship or marriage? I have had 2 that I absolutely thought were pretty and would of loved to help them get back on their feet whether it would of been having them as a gf or?? Ivy was one of them lmao. I met sexy Sammy before she went down hill she was actually really hot but not so much anymore.They not in the biz to fall in love, well ya they are with your wallet, there has been 1 on here lately that creeped them out bad enuff they left biz, after draining his cash, do a search then you can pm him and ask personally.

He probley will deny it but worth a shot at saving your cash lmao.

WaltK
05-23-23, 18:21
They not in the biz to fall in love, well ya they are with your wallet, there has been 1 on here lately that creeped them out bad enuff they left biz, after draining his cash, do a search then you can pm him and ask personally.

He probley will deny it but worth a shot at saving your cash lmao.


Has anyone ever had the hots for one of the providers that if given the chance you would be with them as in a long term relationship or marriage? I have had 2 that I absolutely thought were pretty and would of loved to help them get back on their feet whether it would of been having them as a gf or?? Ivy was one of them lmao. I met sexy Sammy before she went down hill she was actually really hot but not so much anymore.The list of guys who have been taken to the cleaners by providers is long. Many were experienced hobbyists that should have known better. The level of deceptiveness that someone has to be able to pull off to survive in the hobby makes participation in it an automatic disqualifier for relationships for me. I know I am being a hypocrite but there is a reason the saying "It takes one to know one" was coined.

Cassidy69
05-23-23, 19:32
Has anyone ever had the hots for one of the providers that if given the chance you would be with them as in a long term relationship or marriage? I have had 2 that I absolutely thought were pretty and would of loved to help them get back on their feet whether it would of been having them as a gf or?? Ivy was one of them lmao. I met sexy Sammy before she went down hill she was actually really hot but not so much anymore.This ain't Pretty Woman, hun. I appreciate the sentiment and it's always flattering to have a client look at you in that light, however most of us have a pretty hard line about mixing business with pleasure. One. Its awkward. There will always be this thing hanging over your relationship that it started in a transactional form. And two. We're not going to stop. We aren't. Just being honest. I mean unless you make Insane money and are going to float our extravagant lifestyle we've come accustomed to and are able to provide, LOL. Then you will always wonder. We really do make shitty girlfriends in real life, unless of course you are very open to sharing and not necessarily being included, LOL. And that works for some. It works for my personal relationship, but we're weird, LOL.

SlyGuy12
05-23-23, 20:53
The list of guys who have been taken to the cleaners by providers is long. Many were experienced hobbyists that should have known better. The level of deceptiveness that someone has to be able to pull off to survive in the hobby makes participation in it an automatic disqualifier for relationships for me. I know I am being a hypocrite but there is a reason the saying "It takes one to know one" was coined.I got involved with a much younger stripper and ended up with a baby. She went from being crazy in bed to basically a catholic nun. Religion hit her hard. I have to say she didn't really take me (other than 18 years of child support). She finally demanded I marry her or she was out of there. She wound up outa there. Now she is living in Chicago and going to Seminary school.

Wheel58
05-24-23, 09:49
Has anyone ever had the hots for one of the providers that if given the chance you would be with them as in a long term relationship or marriage? I have had 2 that I absolutely thought were pretty and would of loved to help them get back on their feet whether it would of been having them as a gf or?? Ivy was one of them lmao. I met sexy Sammy before she went down hill she was actually really hot but not so much anymore.In my experience the good ones will make you think about them almost like there is more than just a transaction. Heather was like that for me but years ago when I first started in the hobby. It's an art form and some have it down. I now appreciate the ones who care and treat me well but talk regularly so you know your not the only one.

DoIt161
05-24-23, 22:31
Has anyone ever had the hots for one of the providers that if given the chance you would be with them as in a long term relationship or marriage? I have had 2 that I absolutely thought were pretty and would of loved to help them get back on their feet whether it would of been having them as a gf or?? Ivy was one of them lmao. I met sexy Sammy before she went down hill she was actually really hot but not so much anymore.I thought the same thing when I first got into this hobby. Had multiple visits to one specific provider and I thought that I was being treated differently, or I getting something others were not getting. In my mind she was only getting naked and sitting on my face because I was the fucking man! Then I did a search and found that others posted how she made then feel special and how she liked sitting on their faces too.

Maybe, just maybe, you could pull it off?? But you also said that you want to help them get back on their feet. I would hate for you to fall in love with someone, invest time, money, and emotions just to have her bounce when you helped her pull her shit back together. Some of these woman have unbelievable street smarts.

My advice. Don't be a mark. There are too many options out there for you!

Have fun and be safe.

Geek317
05-25-23, 18:33
Has anyone ever had the hots for one of the providers that if given the chance you would be with them as in a long term relationship or marriage? I have had 2 that I absolutely thought were pretty and would of loved to help them get back on their feet whether it would of been having them as a gf or?? Ivy was one of them lmao. I met sexy Sammy before she went down hill she was actually really hot but not so much anymore.I took one in for a while, they honestly weren't that bad, but I laid ground rules. I looked at it as in house fun, not trying to get too attached. It lasted about 3 months though. They couldn't break their "habit" as we had discussed, even with a trip to rehab. I mean aside from that there was a lot of fun, but they couldn't stick to the agreement, so I dropped them off and haven't looked back. Just be sure to be in control of the situation. Then again I wasn't looking to fall in love or anything and had little emotional investment, just a good time.

RaulJulia
05-26-23, 02:33
This ain't Pretty Woman, hun. I appreciate the sentiment and it's always flattering to have a client look at you in that light, however most of us have a pretty hard line about mixing business with pleasure. One. Its awkward. There will always be this thing hanging over your relationship that it started in a transactional form. And two. We're not going to stop. We aren't. Just being honest. I mean unless you make Insane money and are going to float our extravagant lifestyle we've come accustomed to and are able to provide, LOL. Then you will always wonder. We really do make shitty girlfriends in real life, unless of course you are very open to sharing and not necessarily being included, LOL. And that works for some. It works for my personal relationship, but we're weird, LOL.Well said CJ. Your honesty is as refreshing as your numerous other talents. My advice to any and all mongers: if you're looking for a relationship, look somewhere else. This hobby is about having fun and meeting needs. Keep it simple and don't get tangled in the nets when you go out for a swim.

MidwestHobby
05-26-23, 23:18
Has anyone ever had the hots for one of the providers that if given the chance you would be with them as in a long term relationship or marriage? I have had 2 that I absolutely thought were pretty and would of loved to help them get back on their feet whether it would of been having them as a gf or?? Ivy was one of them lmao. I met sexy Sammy before she went down hill she was actually really hot but not so much anymore.Don't do it man. It's not love. You're a client.

Mike Adriano
05-29-23, 10:21
Has anyone ever had the hots for one of the providers that if given the chance you would be with them as in a long term relationship or marriage? I have had 2 that I absolutely thought were pretty and would of loved to help them get back on their feet whether it would of been having them as a gf or?? Ivy was one of them lmao. I met sexy Sammy before she went down hill she was actually really hot but not so much anymore.CJ and a few others have really gave you some great advice and things to ponder if you decide to go down this path. You may very well be able to have a relationship and or marriage with any provider, but best believe it's not going to be traditional! I have 2 very close sets of friends that I worked with in the industry that are still married and have children, but their relationships are really partnerships. They each have their own bank accounts, while they do have a home to raise their children in, they each have a separate house in LA and Vegas for partying, etc. They've had an understanding that married or not they're going to do what they want with who they want but still raise children.

I guess the question that you need to ask yourself is what exactly are you looking for or expecting in a relationship from this individual and hope they will be open and honest about what they're willing to do and what they're not! Good Luck and Hope you find whatever it is that you're looking for! Remain Safe!

PapaBoner78
05-29-23, 19:28
Has anyone ever had the hots for one of the providers that if given the chance you would be with them as in a long term relationship or marriage? I have had 2 that I absolutely thought were pretty and would of loved to help them get back on their feet whether it would of been having them as a gf or?? Ivy was one of them lmao. I met sexy Sammy before she went down hill she was actually really hot but not so much anymore.I'm glad you brought this up. I think we're all guilty of catching some feelings for a chick or 2. If you really think about it, would you ever be able to fully trust a chick that has been in this industry. I can understand a UTR more than a chick who posts daily. These chicks aren't looking for their knight in shining armor. They'll tell you anything to stroke your ego. With that being said, anything is possible but I'd rather just do my thing and roll out. Papa Be.

NoseJelly
05-29-23, 23:18
Maybe the Monger that got his wallet and soul crushed by Synergy 15-20 years ago could chime in with his tale of woe and misery after falling for her charms! If he's still above ground. It's a real page turner!

Moonglow913
05-30-23, 06:54
Maybe the Monger that got his wallet and soul crushed by Synergy 15-20 years ago could chime in with his tale of woe and misery after falling for her charms! If he's still above ground. It's a real page turner!LOL. I remember that drama. Thanks for the ride down memory lane. BTW. Synergy was great. Saw a half dozen times including at her place north of Kalamazoo. Man did that lady love to fuck.

BluBalls1
05-30-23, 09:08
Has anyone ever had the hots for one of the providers that if given the chance you would be with them as in a long term relationship or marriage? I have had 2 that I absolutely thought were pretty and would of loved to help them get back on their feet whether it would of been having them as a gf or?? Ivy was one of them lmao. I met sexy Sammy before she went down hill she was actually really hot but not so much anymore.I had one a while back that we developed a personal friendship. That turned into "just come over anytime and no donation needed", to "I love you and want to only be with you".

It got a little to heavy for me so I moved on and ended all communications with her. But I still get a random text about once every 4-6 weeks from her.

If my personal life was different, I might of given it a try.

Blackfire
05-30-23, 10:07
Maybe the Monger that got his wallet and soul crushed by Synergy 15-20 years ago could chime in with his tale of woe and misery after falling for her charms! If he's still above ground. It's a real page turner!Synergy crushed more than 1 guys wallet, she sure could charm the weak and desperate! I remember 1 notable crushing, may be the one you refer to. The guy was a bit of a "self styled lothario", big talker, etc. And apparently should have been a bit wiser, he was an attorney. But one day he wrote on the board about how he thought she loved him blah blah and he was out $50,000! Sucker born every minute.

There will always be guys who fall for this, and the ladies have a knack for keying on the weaker or more desperate among us. If you tell a girl you are recently divorced watch out, like a shark circling the word gets out and the smell of fresh blood in the water will draw them out of the woodwork to tell you how special you are. Then you'll be posting about all the wonderful spinners who are so sweet to rub your peepee for $200 and how they are the best ever! Until the money runs out. Sound like any recent posters we've endured on this board recently?

Gene2
05-30-23, 18:31
Sound like any recent posters we've endured on this board recently?It sure does. And I'm glad we have so many of such members willing to share actual reviews of providers. They help us all by giving us real life testimonials of real life encounters. The rest of us can then make our choices based upon something more than just a few photos on a STG posted ad. It's the recent posters who enrich this board. They readily present themselves, failings and successes, and they don't seek to camouflage themselves. They deserve respect.

Declare.

G2.

NoseJelly
05-30-23, 23:02
Synergy crushed more than 1 guys wallet, she sure could charm the weak and desperate! I remember 1 notable crushing, may be the one you refer to. The guy was a bit of a "self styled lothario", big talker, etc. And apparently should have been a bit wiser, he was an attorney. But one day he wrote on the board about how he thought she loved him blah blah and he was out $50,000! Sucker born every minute.YES! That's the SuperMonger I was thinking about. Can't remember his Forum / Screen Name, but there was no shortage of drama there!

Pensiveness.

StripperTipper
05-31-23, 06:11
YES! That's the SuperMonger I was thinking about. Can't remember his Forum / Screen Name, but there was no shortage of drama there!

Pensiveness.OH the Drama!

LlMoe24
05-31-23, 11:55
LOL. I remember that drama. Thanks for the ride down memory lane. BTW. Synergy was great. Saw a half dozen times including at her place north of Kalamazoo. Man did that lady love to fuck.Damn, that is one hell of a trip down memory lane. Hard to believe it was that long ago. And all the tie-ins to when ScorpsGuide was taken down and eventually replaced with EV.

StevesMilin
05-31-23, 18:06
I don't recall where I found her in the late 90's, but she lived in a nice ranch house in the woods outside Ada. Saw her a couple years ago near downtown GR. Very sweet, educated and stellar body. I've been trying to reach her again but she must have switched phones.

Ss out.

Shawtren
06-01-23, 14:11
I don't recall where I found her in the late 90's, but she lived in a nice ranch house in the woods outside Ada. Saw her a couple years ago near downtown GR. Very sweet, educated and stellar body. I've been trying to reach her again but she must have switched phones..Is she the one that posted the pics with the German shepherd?

BoatGuy1
06-01-23, 20:00
Take in info, make a decision, report.


It sure does. And I'm glad we have so many of such members willing to share actual reviews of providers. They help us all by giving us real life testimonials of real life encounters. The rest of us can then make our choices based upon something more than just a few photos on a STG posted ad. It's the recent posters who enrich this board. They readily present themselves, failings and successes, and they don't seek to camouflage themselves. They deserve respect.

Declare.

G2.

Gene2
06-01-23, 22:55
Take in info, make a decision, report.At times I do sigh and feel the ROI sometimes is lacking in posting. But we still get good bang for the buck. And can help each other out. Which is actually easily done when others appreciate our work and reviews. But once others understand the premise here, we all succeed. And you summed up the premise well: Take in info, make a decision, report. Simple and effective. Well said.

Salute.

G2.

StevesMilin
06-02-23, 06:17
Is she the one that posted the pics with the German shepherd?I don't recall that.

Variety1
06-02-23, 11:16
I believe Kim is the early 30's blond who blurs her pictures; both face and tats.

Kelly was the redhead in her mid 40's who posted with the dog.

Hope this helps.


I don't recall that.

Pete3854
06-02-23, 13:16
Is she the one that posted the pics with the German shepherd?Yes I remember her too. Yea she had a couple of German Shepards.

Sailor60
06-02-23, 15:08
I've used the Phoner app for the past few years. Been have been having problems with it lately and looking for something else. Recomendations appreciated.

Benz1
06-02-23, 15:19
I've used the Phoner app for the past few years. Been have been having problems with it lately and looking for something else. Recomendations appreciated.I don't like buggy shit or using codes that could ever lead LE back to me.

I bought a boost phone and pay 40 cash per month to keep my Anonymity. LE can not track a cash Burner phone.

I realize it's more than paying for apps, safety first.

Stay safe.

AustinRamos1
06-03-23, 09:11
Distinguished Gentlemen,

This will be my last post as I am going to focus more on my career and walk away from the hobby, at least try for a year or so, but I am hoping indefinitely. It's an addiction that I desperately want to kick. If you have a burning question or need a previously mentioned UTR, I will log back on next Monday to respond to final PMs but that'll be it. Thanks for the brotherhood and community thus far.

Be safe everyone.

Correction: Therapist says logging back in, even to answer a short PM, could be deleterious to my eventual goal. So I will not be logging back in. My last break only lasted 4 months and I am hoping for a more permanent one. That said, contribute, make senior, and share. Cya

PaperClips
06-04-23, 02:35
I don't like buggy shit or using codes that could ever lead LE back to me.

I bought a boost phone and pay 40 cash per month to keep my Anonymity. LE can not track a cash Burner phone.

I realize it's more than paying for apps, safety first.

Stay safe.Technically, that's not really a burner phone. A burner phone would be something you use once or maybe twice and get rid of. You are paying monthly for the phone to have service. Your phone needs to connect to towers so that you are able to make calls, send text, and maybe do a little web browsing. You can be tracked by your IMSI IMEI. Smart phones are smart. Smart at tracking you. You're just not committing a crime that's worth the effort.

Benz1
06-04-23, 08:04
Technically, that's not really a burner phone. A burner phone would be something you use once or maybe twice and get rid of. You are paying monthly for the phone to have service. Your phone needs to connect to towers so that you are able to make calls, send text, and maybe do a little web browsing. You can be tracked by your IMSI IMEI. Smart phones are smart. Smart at tracking you. You're just not committing a crime that's worth the effort.My name is not attached to anything including a credit card paying for a VPN.

Blackfire
06-04-23, 08:26
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We are soon to part company, I'm not sure why you insist on review mongers but you need to stop. He's already been placed on your ignore list, if you talk about him again I will ban you.

No, it's not because I'm protecting him, it's because you're stirring shit.

A2

E1030
06-04-23, 10:41
Don, t know where to post this. I was wondering if Cindi is still around? I met her at Pacific years ago, she moved around. I even saw her at her home near 52nd and Divison. I read here that she owned Wonder, awhile back. I always liked my massage from her. Just wonder if she is still around?

Penmp
06-04-23, 10:49
Don, t know where to post this. I was wondering if Cindi is still around? I met her at Pacific years ago, she moved around. I even saw her at her home near 52nd and Divison. I read here that she owned Wonder, awhile back. I always liked my massage from her. Just wonder if she is still around?Cindi currently owns 5 Star on Plainfield- haven't seen her there in awhile. Think she is focused on her nail salon more these days.

PapaBoner78
06-04-23, 19:36
I have to say that it seems like you guys have a lot of beautiful women in gr and surrounding areas. I may have to make a few trips this summer. Papa Be.

Dean27
06-04-23, 19:53
There are a small handful that are pretty / beautiful. I'm sure you will find out the hardway some of them use pictures from way before all their drug use.


I have to say that it seems like you guys have a lot of beautiful women in gr and surrounding areas. I may have to make a few trips this summer. Papa Be.

NoseJelly
06-04-23, 21:50
I use the old tried and true 2 soup cans with string between them method! I know what you're thinking. Can't Uncle LEO just follow the string? Not when you use Berkley Vanish fishing line as your string!

Intellect.

PapaBoner78
06-04-23, 23:05
There are a small handful that are pretty / beautiful. I'm sure you will find out the hardway some of them use pictures from way before all their drug use.Is that right? Well I guess Papa is going to find out. I've read a lot of good reviews from the ones I have an interest in. Papa Be.

PaperClips
06-05-23, 13:27
My name is not attached to anything including a credit card paying for a VPN.Most phones have batteries that cannot be removed. Even when turned off, it can still send a signal to a cell tower. I imagine you take it home with you. Also, a lot of VPN's fall under the "14 eyes" countries. And some have been caught lying about their "no log" policy. Its not that you can't be traced. You are not doing anything that warrants it.

WayneJWorld
06-05-23, 18:31
Most phones have batteries that cannot be removed. Even when turned off, it can still send a signal to a cell tower. I imagine you take it home with you. Also, a lot of VPN's fall under the "14 eyes" countries. And some have been caught lying about their "no log" policy. Its not that you can't be traced. You are not doing anything that warrants it.I agree with you PC. Under normal cases using the phone to contact someone for fun will fall under the "who gives a crap" with our legal system.

I also agree with the people who are proponents of using the throw away phones for other reasons. The providers, or their boyfriends can not use the throw away phones to track you down. Also there are cases where the provider may be involved in something other than providing just fun that does warrant "we give a crap" with our legal system. In those cases, although as you have indicated, not perfect. I toss the phone and I have my anonymity.

Benz1
06-05-23, 20:37
I agree with you PC. Under normal cases using the phone to contact someone for fun will fall under the "who gives a crap" with our legal system.

I also agree with the people who are proponents of using the throw away phones for other reasons. The providers, or their boyfriends can not use the throw away phones to track you down. Also there are cases where the provider may be involved in something other than providing just fun that does warrant "we give a crap" with our legal system. In those cases, although as you have indicated, not perfect. I toss the phone and I have my anonymity.All good information, still nobody has my name.

I would prefer the burner phone without needing to use VPN.

Verizon and tracfone ruined that by blocking usasexguide. Most public guest sites block it too. I could just use my internet at home to log in here if that weren't tracked too. Starling shows all devices linked to the satellite.

Don't need the wife asking about my burner phone linked to Starlink.

I opted for the boost phone and really do like all the extras I couldn't get with tracfone except it's Predictive text and auto correct don't like my intended text.

Shawtren
06-06-23, 15:58
I believe Kim is the early 30's blond who blurs her pictures; both face and tats.

Kelly was the redhead in her mid 40's who posted with the dog.

Hope this helps.Ah, yes. Kelly. My bad.

Anonwmlatam
06-11-23, 10:45
I don't recall where I found her in the late 90's, but she lived in a nice ranch house in the woods outside Ada. Saw her a couple years ago near downtown GR. Very sweet, educated and stellar body. I've been trying to reach her again but she must have switched phones..Was she a blonde, slight hourglass figure?

StevesMilin
06-12-23, 08:21
Was she a blonde, slight hourglass figure?Busty brunette.

PokerProgr
06-17-23, 16:06
I posted this in the Detroit general reports too but thought I'd share here since I'm from GR and the lack of quality here in GR and in Michigan is crazy.

I posted last year about a mongering trip to Germany and had quite a few people reach out with questions so I thought I'd share again my latest trip. I went again this past March and forgot to post about it.

I go to an FKK club in Darmstadt, Germany called Sharks. I go overseas because it's just so much better than anything we have in the US. I no longer do any mongering in the states because it's just that good there. The weather in March sucked as their weather is similar to ours so the outdoor are and pool were not open this time. However, this time there were a lot more women. The line up was the best I'd ever seen. So many beautiful women to choose from. Most are of Eastern European descent. The busiest times easily had 100+ women. I spent 6 days in Germany and went to the club every day. The first day I did 4 sessions with 4 different women. The 2nd day I think I only did 2 sessions but all the other days I did 3-4. I did repeat sessions with 4 or 5 women who I really liked. Some of them I had seen on previous trips. It's really paradise and definitely worth the trip. It blows anything in the US away. Half hour sessions usually are 100 and hour sessions usually 150 unless you want extras like anal or cim.

I want to go again but ticket prices are crazy high right now. Happy to answer any questions here or in PM.

Stop wasting your money here. Stop wasting your time searching through online posts with fake photos and dealing with flakey girls that don’t show up on time or not at all.Get your passports and go overseas! It's infinitely better.

LakeGuy70
06-23-23, 09:12
Hello, I'm wondering if anyone could help me out. I've always had a fetish about drinking milk straight from the tap.

Just has no of a provider or somebody that offers that?

Thanks in advance.

Dean27
06-30-23, 09:12
Emmy Is feeling better and looking for some attention. She is also looking into getting a job soon so it will be harder to get with her. Get at her while you can. I seen her yesterday and as usual one of the best on the market.

JTeller123
06-30-23, 12:55
Emmy Is feeling better and looking for some attention. She is also looking into getting a job soon so it will be harder to get with her. Get at her while you can. I seen her yesterday and as usual one of the best on the market.Who is this Emmy and what are details if you want to let anyone know.

Benz1
07-02-23, 03:42
Wondering if anyone can help me out here, I read somewhere I think on this site a woman that offered haircuts with massage and happy endings. If this is true and someone has her digits that would be willing to share I'd appreciate it.

Thanks in advance.https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-make-it-reign--616-306-73/392329038519

SarahLikesIt
07-03-23, 07:04
https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_w/lets-make-it-reign--616-306-73/392329038519And one of them is not very flattering. What are the dental issues referred to in the post she highlights? I dig the idea of a haircut, followed by manscape, followed by.

Anyone know approximate rates before I contact?

TypicalDude
07-04-23, 21:57
If any other senior members have contact info for UTR girls in the GR / Kent area, please keep me in mind. I post reviews, have good relationships with several providers, and I can provide references if needed. I also understand the need for discretion (will not share any contact info entrusted to me.) DM anytime if you're a senior member who posts in the GR board. Thanks!

Gene2
07-05-23, 10:17
If any other senior members have contact info for UTR girls in the GR / Kent area, please keep me in mind. I post reviews, have good relationships with several providers, and I can provide references if needed. I also understand the need for discretion (will not share any contact info entrusted to me.) DM anytime if you're a senior member who posts in the GR board. Thanks!Sent you a PM. Hope that helps.

Assist.

G2.

Benz1
07-05-23, 12:31
If any other senior members have contact info for UTR girls in the GR / Kent area, please keep me in mind. I post reviews, have good relationships with several providers, and I can provide references if needed. I also understand the need for discretion (will not share any contact info entrusted to me.) DM anytime if you're a senior member who posts in the GR board. Thanks!I was going to help butt it looks like you already have multiple personalities assisting you

Bopa1
07-05-23, 15:30
I was going to help butt it looks like you already have multiple personalities assisting youYes only no one at this time but hood one.

Benz1
07-07-23, 12:46
If any other senior members have contact info for UTR girls in the GR / Kent area, please keep me in mind. I post reviews, have good relationships with several providers, and I can provide references if needed. I also understand the need for discretion (will not share any contact info entrusted to me.) DM anytime if you're a senior member who posts in the GR board. Thanks!I answered this request many years ago. At the. Time a lot of members were looking for UTRS. The best place to find them is FB. All currrent and retired providers have a profile. It's been easier to encourage a retired provider to come back for occasional dates with myself and some Frenz than it is to get new providers. I'm currently working on two, one I will see soon and another I won't see because she wants to sell me something I don't need Covered BJ. She's young pretty and curvy with good rates. Her rates are like yester year. Probably the same rates she retired with. 80hh 100hr. Still not interested in CBJ service. The one on the right is older and average looking (per her photo on FB) currently in a relationship but still needs extra money cim is on her menu, hopefully I'll see her soon. No incall available for either girl. Most UTRs don't have a good location they have family at home, they're not in a hotel waiting for clients all day. Most UTRS are average looking (back of their heads all look the same), if they were pretty they would have one or more sugar daddy's.

HeeJunk
07-07-23, 14:36
I was going to help butt it looks like you already have multiple personalities assisting youWell at least I got the joke.

Benz1
07-07-23, 14:43
Well at least I got the joke.You might be the only one.

Other Mongers are responding to his multiple personalities.

Which one is it now? Gene 1 2 3 4 or more?
He probably doesn't even get it.

Benz1
07-07-23, 15:04
I answered this request many years ago. At the. Time a lot of members were looking for UTRS. The best place to find them is FB. All currrent and retired providers have a profile. It's been easier to encourage a retired provider to come back for occasional dates with myself and some Frenz than it is to get new providers. I'm currently working on two, one I will see soon and another I won't see because she wants to sell me something I don't need Covered BJ. She's young pretty and curvy with good rates. Her rates are like yester year. Probably the same rates she retired with. 80hh 100hr. Still not interested in CBJ service. The one on the right is older and average looking (per her photo on FB) currently in a relationship but still needs extra money cim is on her menu, hopefully I'll see her soon. No incall available for either girl. Most UTRs don't have a good location they have family at home, they're not in a hotel waiting for clients all day. Most UTRS are average looking (back of their heads all look the same), if they were pretty they would have one or more sugar daddy's.Getting a lot of questions about this UTR post.

I've written many posts about FB UTRS in the past. Scroll back on general reports and find my best advice, it hasn't changed girls are still the same, they want money for nothing, I convince them to trade.
My methods don't work for everyone especially if you seek a pretty young spinner. FB works for me, I never need to call a girl on STG. I scroll STG occasionally, I don't call.

RaulJulia
07-07-23, 15:21
I answered this request many years ago. At the. Time a lot of members were looking for UTRS. The best place to find them is FB. All currrent and retired providers have a profile. It's been easier to encourage a retired provider to come back for occasional dates with myself and some Frenz than it is to get new providers. I'm currently working on two, one I will see soon and another I won't see because she wants to sell me something I don't need Covered BJ. She's young pretty and curvy with good rates. Her rates are like yester year. Probably the same rates she retired with. 80hh 100hr. Still not interested in CBJ service. The one on the right is older and average looking (per her photo on FB) currently in a relationship but still needs extra money cim is on her menu, hopefully I'll see her soon. No incall available for either girl. Most UTRs don't have a good location they have family at home, they're not in a hotel waiting for clients all day. Most UTRS are average looking (back of their heads all look the same), if they were pretty they would have one or more sugar daddy's.I don't have any real experience with UTRs, so I can't add to that part of this discussion. But I did want to piggyback onto something else Benz mentioned here and pose a question. Maybe it's just me personally or maybe I've had a streak of bad luck, but it seems in my limited observation that more and more providers are only offering covered BJ when it comes to oral options. I was recently very disappointed during a visit with someone who is highly reviewed on this forum that her BJ offering was, in fact, CBJ. I've experienced this disappointment more than once in recent months, but really didn't expect it from her. I insist on covered when it comes to FS, just for my own piece of mind, but I've never been able to enjoy CBJ, as in, it's darn near impossible for me to pop if the BJ is covered, compared to BBBJ, where I don't last long at all if the provider knows what she's doing. Anyway, just wondering if any of the rest of you have noticed this trend or if it's just me.

Benz1
07-07-23, 16:39
I don't have any real experience with UTRs, so I can't add to that part of this discussion. But I did want to piggyback onto something else Benz mentioned here and pose a question. Maybe it's just me personally or maybe I've had a streak of bad luck, but it seems in my limited observation that more and more providers are only offering covered BJ when it comes to oral options. I was recently very disappointed during a visit with someone who is highly reviewed on this forum that her BJ offering was, in fact, CBJ. I've experienced this disappointment more than once in recent months, but really didn't expect it from her. I insist on covered when it comes to FS, just for my own piece of mind, but I've never been able to enjoy CBJ, as in, it's darn near impossible for me to pop if the BJ is covered, compared to BBBJ, where I don't last long at all if the provider knows what she's doing. Anyway, just wondering if any of the rest of you have noticed this trend or if it's just me.1. Are you shopping for young pretty spinners?

They know their looks will give them a pass on real good service. Just look at all the well reviewed Parlor girls that don't give anything more than HJ and they stay in business.

Average girls do it better and longer.

2. You must be giving them the money before the BJ. Whoever has the money controls the date. If you pay before, She can lie and say yes to BBBJCIM then put a cover on.

If you pay after the BJ, she will make sure you're happy.

Benz1
07-07-23, 18:45
I don't have any real experience with UTRs, so I can't add to that part of this discussion. But I did want to piggyback onto something else Benz mentioned here and pose a question. Maybe it's just me personally or maybe I've had a streak of bad luck, but it seems in my limited observation that more and more providers are only offering covered BJ when it comes to oral options. I was recently very disappointed during a visit with someone who is highly reviewed on this forum that her BJ offering was, in fact, CBJ. I've experienced this disappointment more than once in recent months, but really didn't expect it from her. I insist on covered when it comes to FS, just for my own piece of mind, but I've never been able to enjoy CBJ, as in, it's darn near impossible for me to pop if the BJ is covered, compared to BBBJ, where I don't last long at all if the provider knows what she's doing. Anyway, just wondering if any of the rest of you have noticed this trend or if it's just me.I always at the end of the date.

Kitty swallows every drop.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_w/kitty-meow--grand-rapids-incal/200334867943

RaulJulia
07-07-23, 20:44
I always at the end of the date.

Kitty swallows every drop.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/grand-rapids/female-escorts/caucasian_w/kitty-meow--grand-rapids-incal/200334867943Thanks for the recommendation Benz. You make some good points. I should clarify that most of the experiences I'm referencing were at MPs that offer more than just massage and not with those who advertise as escorts, except for one experience that was with an escort. So maybe that's part of the issue. Maybe some of the parlors have rules for their girls about this. But even some of those places seem to have some providers who offer BBBJ and some who only offer CBJ. I'd just like to know on the front end going in so I could adjust my expectations and possibly make other plans with a different provider. We all know that some of these girls say they'll do things and then change their tune once the fun begins. Maybe I just need to be more up front with what I want. Anyway, I appreciate the link to Kitty. --RJ.

Benz1
07-07-23, 23:03
Thanks for the recommendation Benz. You make some good points. I should clarify that most of the experiences I'm referencing were at MPs that offer more than just massage and not with those who advertise as escorts, except for one experience that was with an escort. So maybe that's part of the issue. Maybe some of the parlors have rules for their girls about this. But even some of those places seem to have some providers who offer BBBJ and some who only offer CBJ. I'd just like to know on the front end going in so I could adjust my expectations and possibly make other plans with a different provider. We all know that some of these girls say they'll do things and then change their tune once the fun begins. Maybe I just need to be more up front with what I want. Anyway, I appreciate the link to Kitty. --RJ.Tip at the end of the session.

I used to help mongers by giving passwords for a girl to know you are Frenz of Benz. Then you can speak openly about everything plus tip at the end. Never believe them when they say if you tip me well, I'll remember and next time will be better. LIES.

Then the squad started the pimping rumors, everyone loses when we hold back information.

Dean27
07-08-23, 20:15
This is just a suggestion and a general reminder when posting about a provider. If you can upload a picture or two of the provider and add the link the photos will be permanently posted to the site for any future searches. Links go bad after a while.

Gene2
07-11-23, 16:08
It's great that everyone can get some recommendations and suggestions here. I had to learn that there is a wide variety of desires and wants from the monger community. Some want the cheapest woman possible and don't care about looks, sobriety, cleanliness, or even safety. And at the other end of the spectrum, there are those of us who desire a good looking woman, with no visible hard candy use. And a clean, safe location to host the tryst. Further, some of us want intellect, conversation, and perhaps connection. What's great is that each of those wide spectrum ideals can be filled by mongers recommendations. And of course, most mongers fall somewhere in between those two tangents. And most of us here at least try to understand those who want something different than we do. It's the variety. Some can't seem to quite grasp that, but we hope in time they will.

And the monger intelligence is higher than average for most of us here. And that should be respected. So while I'm not in search of a provider that I can't bear looking at, I can respect that some mongers are fine with that dynamic. And I would hope all here will continue to provide recommendations to fellow members requesting such. Even if the request is for phone issues and a free VPN will do just fine. Some want a password oriented purchase of a new phone. Not me. I'll go cheap on that front and save the shekels for a higher quality provider.

Budget.

G2.

Benz1
07-12-23, 14:11
Hello, I'm wondering if anyone could help me out. I've always had a fetish about drinking milk straight from the tap.

Just has no of a provider or somebody that offers that?

Thanks in advance.This one is 7 months along, reports say lactating is just starting.

Reports of candy use and skin issues too, on escort Lansing site.

Milk straight from the tap is hard to find unless you're married to it.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/lansing/female-escorts/asian/doing-quick-meets-for-hundred-/671536285054

Cassidy69
08-05-23, 09:19
So. Just a heads up. Someone who works at holliday inn 68th street (day use) is messing with people and sending messages to people's family and friends. Someone pictures of a chick in the parking lot that kinda looked like me but wasn't thankfully. Saying I was there right then. Sent pics of a guy's truck (white Denali just in case you were there last night) and room number and everything. My name. But it wasn't me. I was home, but just know those folks are shady as fuck and telling on people. I know the DAY USE option is nice, but they're blowing people's shit up. Play carefully.

BigT0501
08-05-23, 15:43
This one is 7 months along, reports say lactating is just starting.

Reports of candy use and skin issues too, on escort Lansing site.

Milk straight from the tap is hard to find unless you're married to it.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/lansing/female-escorts/asian/doing-quick-meets-for-hundred-/671536285054A handful of years ago when Sabrina / Princess Heather was pregnant, I had the opportunity to latch on to her 36 DD's. They were actually bigger than that as they were engorged with sweet cereal sauce. Easily able to milk those puppies and IMO understand why infants enjoy the shebrew.

Mike Yepthatsm
08-05-23, 16:50
That is fucked up. Hopefully management has been made aware.


So. Just a heads up. Someone who works at holliday inn 68th street (day use) is messing with people and sending messages to people's family and friends. Someone pictures of a chick in the parking lot that kinda looked like me but wasn't thankfully. Saying I was there right then. Sent pics of a guy's truck (white Denali just in case you were there last night) and room number and everything. My name. But it wasn't me. I was home, but just know those folks are shady as fuck and telling on people. I know the DAY USE option is nice, but they're blowing people's shit up. Play carefully.

Cassidy69
08-05-23, 18:13
That is fucked up. Hopefully management has been made aware.Not by me! LOL. Last thing I'm doing is walking in there and raising a stink. But they'll never see me there again that's for sure. They have always been very obnoxious and unprofessional during check in, but this is definitely over the top.

LakeGuy70
08-06-23, 05:50
A handful of years ago when Sabrina / Princess Heather was pregnant, I had the opportunity to latch on to her 36 DD's. They were actually bigger than that as they were engorged with sweet cereal sauce. Easily able to milk those puppies and IMO understand why infants enjoy the shebrew.That sounds amazing, I'd love to try that.

Cassidy69
08-06-23, 08:31
This one is 7 months along, reports say lactating is just starting.

Reports of candy use and skin issues too, on escort Lansing site.

Milk straight from the tap is hard to find unless you're married to it.

https://skipthegames.com/posts/lansing/female-escorts/asian/doing-quick-meets-for-hundred-/671536285054Received your message. Was unable to reply because your inbox is full. I will consider your advice though and possibly reach out. Not too often that you and I are on the same page, LOL, but I agree. Thanks for the info.

JonMels
08-06-23, 16:45
So. Just a heads up. Someone who works at holliday inn 68th street (day use) is messing with people and sending messages to people's family and friends. Someone pictures of a chick in the parking lot that kinda looked like me but wasn't thankfully. Saying I was there right then. Sent pics of a guy's truck (white Denali just in case you were there last night) and room number and everything. My name. But it wasn't me. I was home, but just know those folks are shady as fuck and telling on people. I know the DAY USE option is nice, but they're blowing people's shit up. Play carefully.I'm not in Grand Rapids much, but I like to see a community that looks out for each other. We all benefit.

Moonglow913
08-15-23, 08:27
We seem to have a pretty knowledgeable group here, so I have a question. I know the less popular ladies can struggle getting appointments but the more popular providers can be difficult to see at times. Anyone willing to speculate on just how many guys one of these ladies are in a day or week? Do you think those in the parlors have a higher volume than the independents? My guess the independents keep it to a hand full per day whereas the parlor ladies (the popular ones) more like double that amount.

Benz1
08-15-23, 11:49
We seem to have a pretty knowledgeable group here, so I have a question. I know the less popular ladies can struggle getting appointments but the more popular providers can be difficult to see at times. Anyone willing to speculate on just how many guys one of these ladies are in a day or week? Do you think those in the parlors have a higher volume than the independents? My guess the independents keep it to a hand full per day whereas the parlor ladies (the popular ones) more like double that amount.That would be pure speculation. We only know what they tell us and I wouldn't believe any of them telling us about their business.

There will always be a motive for what they tell you seldom the truth.

BadBoyFourU
08-15-23, 18:15
We seem to have a pretty knowledgeable group here, so I have a question. I know the less popular ladies can struggle getting appointments but the more popular providers can be difficult to see at times. Anyone willing to speculate on just how many guys one of these ladies are in a day or week? Do you think those in the parlors have a higher volume than the independents? My guess the independents keep it to a hand full per day whereas the parlor ladies (the popular ones) more like double that amount.Go read this site, I have followed her for several years, she can open your eyes to the business.

https://maggiemcneill.com/

HappyDa
08-15-23, 19:51
So I can keep them all together. Would like to know if anybody recommends any good providers in the Grand rapids area. I would appreciate it. Thank you.

Moonglow913
08-16-23, 09:13
That would be pure speculation. We only know what they tell us and I wouldn't believe any of them telling us about their business.

There will always be a motive for what they tell you seldom the truth.I hear you Benz I was just trying to bring a little levity to our usual drama LOL. But you're right, it's a business which probably dictates how active any particular provider chooses to be. I don't want to name names but I think I have had some honest conversations with a few of the ladies. Each are going to approach the hobby according to their financial needs and or personal, let's say, appetite. Some of these ladies just truly love sex and love getting paid to have it. It's the reason some just stand out over others. It also goes to want we mongers seek, at least I do. Anyway, I am sometimes amazed at what some of these ladies put up with and there can be a dark side to this hobby. But for those of us who seek more than to merely get our rocks off, occasionally find find a gem. Not use an overused term a true GFE. GR should feel pretty good about having its fair share of top quality ladies. OK, I'll get off my soap box. I guess I was just trying to get to a discussion between volume and quality of service. I suspect there is a correlation.

Benz1
08-16-23, 15:02
I hear you Benz I was just trying to bring a little levity to our usual drama LOL. But you're right, it's a business which probably dictates how active any particular provider chooses to be. I don't want to name names but I think I have had some honest conversations with a few of the ladies. Each are going to approach the hobby according to their financial needs and or personal, let's say, appetite. Some of these ladies just truly love sex and love getting paid to have it. It's the reason some just stand out over others. It also goes to want we mongers seek, at least I do. Anyway, I am sometimes amazed at what some of these ladies put up with and there can be a dark side to this hobby. But for those of us who seek more than to merely get our rocks off, occasionally find find a gem. Not use an overused term a true GFE. GR should feel pretty good about having its fair share of top quality ladies. OK, I'll get off my soap box. I guess I was just trying to get to a discussion between volume and quality of service. I suspect there is a correlation.I think they all want to make 1 k a day. They know how to make it when they need it.

They only tell us what they want us to know or think we want to hear.

AdorableRose1
08-16-23, 22:53
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WayneJWorld
08-19-23, 10:21
There was a question from escort section concerning the late start times of some providers. How many minutes late is acceptable for the mongers. That is frustrating to say the least, but the ghosting is really annoying. How many chances do you give someone that ghost. I've been ghosted by two providers Neveah back in the day. Damn I miss those boobs, but connected later on with her, and she turned out to be very reliable. Currently Lainey in Holland has taken it to a new level, hence no more calls to her. What's the break point where you just say it isn't worth it?

HollandMI8
08-19-23, 11:22
There was a question from escort section concerning the late start times of some providers. How many minutes late is acceptable for the mongers. That is frustrating to say the least, but the ghosting is really annoying. How many chances do you give someone that ghost. I've been ghosted by two providers Neveah back in the day. Damn I miss those boobs, but connected later on with her, and she turned out to be very reliable. Currently Lainey in Holland has taken it to a new level, hence no more calls to her. What's the break point where you just say it isn't worth it?For me its simple. Unless they contact me with a REALLY good excuse its over. Move on. Many more fish in the sea.

Swcdt
08-19-23, 11:23
There was a question from escort section concerning the late start times of some providers. How many minutes late is acceptable for the mongers. That is frustrating to say the least, but the ghosting is really annoying. How many chances do you give someone that ghost. I've been ghosted by two providers Neveah back in the day. Damn I miss those boobs, but connected later on with her, and she turned out to be very reliable. Currently Lainey in Holland has taken it to a new level, hence no more calls to her. What's the break point where you just say it isn't worth it?Ghosting is a 1 and done shot for me. Berlin did that to me then tried to connect 1 hour after my appointment time. I told her no thanks. As far as late starts, I'll wait 15 minutes and then I'm out. Sometimes these girls book themselves back to back sessions and that doesn't allow for setbacks so they are easily running behind later in the day. I won't write a girl off for that unless its a recurring problem. It pisses me off, but Ill just try another day.

TypicalDude
08-20-23, 07:58
Request: Please include a link or a pic in your report.

Review, recommendation, question, warning, etc.

Links and / or pics are super helpful, every time.

TokyoDawson
08-21-23, 06:55
Request: Please include a link or a pic in your report.

Review, recommendation, question, warning, etc.

Links and / or pics are super helpful, every time.And put the name in the title box when replying to a post. Annoying when there is a bit of good intel but we have to pull up a chain of 3 untitled replies to get to an original post to see who it was about.

TokyoDawson
08-21-23, 07:01
There was a question from escort section concerning the late start times of some providers. ?How far in advance do you set up an appointment? For me the chance of being ghosted increases 2 x if it is set up more than an hour in advance.

WayneJWorld
08-21-23, 13:15
How far in advance do you set up an appointment? For me the chance of being ghosted increases 2 x if it is set up more than an hour in advance.For the most part I found that calling and meet up within 1 hr has the least amount of ghosting. However some ladies prefer 24 hr notice with confirmation same day.

BaseHit
08-29-23, 15:55
Hey all,

I'm planning a trip to Thailand in early 2024. Anyone travel their recently? Any suggestions, tips, where to go and stay for first time tourist? Thanks in advance. PM is fine if you rather not post. BH.

NoseJelly
08-29-23, 19:30
Hey all,

I'm planning a trip to Thailand in early 2024. Anyone travel their recently? Any suggestions, tips, where to go and stay for first time tourist? Thanks in advance. PM is fine if you rather not post. BH.Click on the Front Page button in the upper left of this page and then click where it says International Sex Guide.

HeeJunk
08-29-23, 19:51
Hey all,

I'm planning a trip to Thailand in early 2024. Anyone travel their recently? Any suggestions, tips, where to go and stay for first time tourist? Thanks in advance. PM is fine if you rather not post. BH.Advice: wear a condom. Enjoy the pricing.

BaseHit
08-29-23, 22:12
Click on the Front Page button in the upper left of this page and then click where it says International Sex Guide.I forgot about that. Thanks NJ!

TypicalDude
09-04-23, 13:42
I want to DM you a yes / no question, can you confirm when you've had a chance to purge your inbox?

Russians
09-04-23, 13:52
Hi, just seeking advice, I've been coummincating with a sugar baby on secret benefits she is 41 years old and is telling me there ar so many men willing to pay a lot to see her. She goes by the post of jessica 5 I've had car play with her once and she is not fat but had 4 kids so by far not a spinner. She wants a monthly allowance, and keeps telling me how she can get a lot Have you ever had an arrangement or know of someone who has.

Dean27
09-04-23, 15:44
It's not worth the hassle. If she keeps saying she needs more and more then run. It should be more of a pay as you play then pay her a allowance. Who is to say she will ever cough it up when you need it. A sugar baby who gets allowance should be living with you and at call at any given time you want it If you are forking out a allowance.


Hi, just seeking advice, I've been coummincating with a sugar baby on secret benefits she is 41 years old and is telling me there ar so many men willing to pay a lot to see her. She goes by the post of jessica 5 I've had car play with her once and she is not fat but had 4 kids so by far not a spinner. She wants a monthly allowance, and keeps telling me how she can get a lot Have you ever had an arrangement or know of someone who has.

AngelsMan
09-06-23, 09:55
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but recently my older MAC laptop is only loading about half of the pics on STG. I either get a pic of the lady, or a blank square with a? Inside.

Anyone have any suggestions? Note. Other sites seam to load everything fine.

Thanks.

PaperClips
09-06-23, 14:16
Not sure if this is the right place for this, but recently my older MAC laptop is only loading about half of the pics on STG. I either get a pic of the lady, or a blank square with a? Inside.

Anyone have any suggestions? Note. Other sites seam to load everything fine.

Thanks.How old is your Mac? What version of macOS are you running? Also, what web browser are you using?

PaperClips
09-11-23, 06:03
I'm not sure where exactly to post this: I remember when SW in Grand Rapids used to dress scantly like this, but police presence shut that down real quick. It seems like ladies in LA do not care. Still till this day, they are dressing with hardly anything on!

I came across this YouTube channel by accident. Seems like there's plenty of action to have there.

https://www.youtube.com/@lizardhunter13

RufusFirefly
09-12-23, 05:25
I'm not sure where exactly to post this: I remember when SW in Grand Rapids used to dress scantly like this, but police presence shut that down real quick. It seems like ladies in LA do not care. Still till this day, they are dressing with hardly anything on!

I came across this YouTube channel by accident. Seems like there's plenty of action to have there.

https://www.youtube.com/@lizardhunter13Those girls need to wear more cloths.

PaperClips
09-14-23, 02:24
Those girls need to wear more cloths.Which is why I am surprised they don't get arrested! It is pretty obvious what they are doing. Sometimes parents walk by with their young children and these SW are standing at a corner with their entire ass hanging out. When I first started strolling, a lot of the SW dressed sexy, but for the most part; they were covered.

Big states like LA and NV can be dangerous as they have SW that are underage. Anyone that pimps out a woman that's not yet 18, needs to be put in prison for life.

Du Donk
09-14-23, 05:29
Ditto for me A'Man, Mine claims to be up to date with Catalina 10.15. 7. DOB on the Mac Book Pro is 2012. I use safari in a Private setting. It just started misbehaving a month or two ago.


Not sure if this is the right place for this, but recently my older MAC laptop is only loading about half of the pics on STG. I either get a pic of the lady, or a blank square with a? Inside.

Anyone have any suggestions? Note. Other sites seam to load everything fine.

Thanks.

MagicHands2
09-14-23, 07:19
Ditto for me A'Man, Mine claims to be up to date with Catalina 10.15. 7. DOB on the Mac Book Pro is 2012. I use safari in a Private setting. It just started misbehaving a month or two ago.I am using an older 2011 mac for hobbying "research" purposes also and found that I needed to switch to using a Firefox browser. It also has a privacy mode. You might try installing whatever the latest version that is compatible with your vintage mac and OS.

Magichands2.

Dean27
09-16-23, 16:51
Benz you're at your limit with emails. Quit being so popular LOL.

DoIt161
09-19-23, 15:57
Hi, just seeking advice, I've been coummincating with a sugar baby on secret benefits she is 41 years old and is telling me there ar so many men willing to pay a lot to see her. She goes by the post of jessica 5 I've had car play with her once and she is not fat but had 4 kids so by far not a spinner. She wants a monthly allowance, and keeps telling me how she can get a lot Have you ever had an arrangement or know of someone who has.You're more than likely getting played. You should just assume that she is saying the exact same thing to every other guy she is talking to. She has four kids. Only pay to play, and don't fall in love my friend. These girls will chew you up and stomp on your emotions.

Please save your time and money.

Benz1
09-21-23, 05:39
Benz you're at your limit with emails. Quit being so popular LOL.LakeGuy70 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

LakeGuy70
09-21-23, 06:55
LakeGuy70 has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.My mailbox is empty now.

Thanks.

Benz1
09-22-23, 10:59
The following errors occurred with your submission.

EngrGuy has exceeded their stored private messages quota and cannot accept further messages until they clear some space.

Shawtren
09-22-23, 12:17
I have a company phone (iphone) and it has tacking enabled on it. They can see where I am at any time they like, and I know they check it often. Does anybody know of a way to make it look like I am at. Say McDonald's. And not at a massage parlor? If I just turn it off, they will get suspicious and ask a bunch of questions. Maybe could there be an app of some sort to do this?

I would sure love the opportunity to slip away for a half hour or so for a quick pick me up during business hours! Any help would be appreciated!

Play safe!

Shaw.

StripperTipper
09-22-23, 19:56
I have a company phone (iphone) and it has tacking enabled on it. They can see where I am at any time they like, and I know they check it often. Does anybody know of a way to make it look like I am at. Say McDonald's. And not at a massage parlor? If I just turn it off, they will get suspicious and ask a bunch of questions. Maybe could there be an app of some sort to do this?

I would sure love the opportunity to slip away for a half hour or so for a quick pick me up during business hours! Any help would be appreciated!

Play safe!

Shaw.Perhaps a faraday bag. They block all signals coming and going. Phones disconnect and reconnect to the network all the time. Who would be the wiser?

ST.

HeeJunk
09-22-23, 20:22
I have a company phone (iphone) and it has tacking enabled on it. They can see where I am at any time they like, and I know they check it often. Does anybody know of a way to make it look like I am at. Say McDonald's. And not at a massage parlor? If I just turn it off, they will get suspicious and ask a bunch of questions. Maybe could there be an app of some sort to do this?

I would sure love the opportunity to slip away for a half hour or so for a quick pick me up during business hours! Any help would be appreciated!

Play safe!

Shaw.1). Leave it on your desk.

2) get a new job.

3) give up the hobby.

Benz1
09-22-23, 20:35
I have a company phone (iphone) and it has tacking enabled on it. They can see where I am at any time they like, and I know they check it often. Does anybody know of a way to make it look like I am at. Say McDonald's. And not at a massage parlor? If I just turn it off, they will get suspicious and ask a bunch of questions. Maybe could there be an app of some sort to do this?

I would sure love the opportunity to slip away for a half hour or so for a quick pick me up during business hours! Any help would be appreciated!

Play safe!

Shaw.I joined Planet Fitness they're all over town.

Join the black membership to have access to nation wide lockers and showers.

Buy small lock.

Drop the phone in a locker.

Go play.

Come back and wash up if needed.

Pick up phone.

Go home.

Gene2
09-22-23, 21:14
I joined Planet Fitness they're all over town.

Join the black membership to have access to nation wide lockers and showers.

Buy small lock.

Drop the phone in a locker.

Go play.

Come back and wash up if needed.

Pick up phone.

Go home.Great advice. I like it. Simple. Cheap. Effective. Maybe work out a bit at PF so the company sees you getting in better shape.

Exercise.

G2.

PrivateParts
09-23-23, 10:51
I have a company phone (iphone) and it has tacking enabled on it. They can see where I am at any time they like, and I know they check it often. Does anybody know of a way to make it look like I am at. Say McDonald's. And not at a massage parlor? If I just turn it off, they will get suspicious and ask a bunch of questions. Maybe could there be an app of some sort to do this?

I would sure love the opportunity to slip away for a half hour or so for a quick pick me up during business hours! Any help would be appreciated!

Play safe!

Shaw.I have similar thing just with Find My Friends with family iphones. We all share our location which is very convenient, but I will religiously stop sharing my location when I go to play, then reenable it afterwards. I also put my phone on airplane mode during the visit so if someone calls it goes straight to voicemail, or if they text from iMessage it doesn't say "delivered". Thus it looks like my phone is dead / no signal. Since all my visits in the hobby or an affair are scheduled I set an alarm to remind me to turn it off / on for the visit.

Sometimes for the heck of it I'll turn off sharing my location when I'm going to meet my family someplace and I KNOW they will monitor my location for progress. I've done that so they notice that sometimes my location is "flakey" when I'm not cheating so they don't get as suspicious if the see I go dark on a date. I just tell them my phone went into low battery mode which stops using GPS in the background. They aren't techie enough to question it. You could do the same thing occasionally while you are at your job site where you are seen by others so if work is tracking you can say "but I'm right here". Set the precedent that your reported location isn't reliable.

Side note: I do the same thing with the insurance car apps that monitors how you drive for discounts.

Benz1
09-23-23, 18:34
Just a heads up for anyone searching FB for providers.

This one is a real dud. Probably AI fake.

Only wants cash app venmo or gift cards to see her.

Those tits bounce in her videos as she plays with them, they're TGTBT.

Benz1
09-23-23, 18:37
Christina digits are on hold until she feels better. She has been sick off and on. No sense in blowing up her phone until she's answering it.

I'll update on her when she's better.

Same with Jenna. Too much family around right now to get the dates going.

TypicalDude
09-23-23, 19:41
Recently learned about whatsyourprice from another senior member here, and it seems like a really cool site. Has anyone had luck using the site to connect with providers?

And are there any other sites as alternatives to STG and Tryst, like whatsyourprice, that others would recommend checking out?

Thanks for any suggestions for sites to consider, and info about your success / failure using them.

JonMels
09-24-23, 17:04
Recently learned about whatsyourprice from another senior member here, and it seems like a really cool site. Has anyone had luck using the site to connect with providers?

And are there any other sites as alternatives to STG and Tryst, like whatsyourprice, that others would recommend checking out?

Thanks for any suggestions for sites to consider, and info about your success / failure using them.What I like about WhatsYourPrice is that the girls will indicate if they're down for discreet affairs or not. It's not a guarantee of anything, but it's a start. The downside is that you have to prepay credits to interact with the girls.

As for results, it's hit or miss on either of those sites. If you want a sure thing, go to Skip and set something up. But you'll end up with a drug addict. If you want higher quality that you'll have to work on, the sugar sites can be productive and will yield younger women of greater beauty for the most part. It's unlikely you'll be fucking a girl right away, though. Either way, hold the line on budget. The sugar babies will not be shy about outrageous pricing.

TypicalDude
09-24-23, 23:33
What I like about WhatsYourPrice is that the girls will indicate if they're down for discreet affairs or not. It's not a guarantee of anything, but it's a start. The downside is that you have to prepay credits to interact with the girls.

As for results, it's hit or miss on either of those sites. If you want a sure thing, go to Skip and set something up. But you'll end up with a drug addict. If you want higher quality that you'll have to work on, the sugar sites can be productive and will yield younger women of greater beauty for the most part. It's unlikely you'll be fucking a girl right away, though. Either way, hold the line on budget. The sugar babies will not be shy about outrageous pricing.I really appreciate your reply, this is very helpful info. Thank you.

Benz1
10-04-23, 09:38
PSA.

Put out there to guys with burner phones to shut them off (if they are not already) with the nationwide alert system going off at 2:20 p today? Totally awkward to have your hidden burner going off with a SO near by.

News reports say alerts will be sent all over the country today.

Stay safe.