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MichGuy0419
06-27-19, 16:46
Looks like it might be open again as ad is up.
Tempting but too many unknowns.
Anyone ever gone?
https://cityxguide.photo/ads/gloryhole-heaven-xxx-free-service-read-ad__1561666007-22878137
UpInTheRental
06-27-19, 17:13
My thought is that there is a dude on the receiving end. I could be wrong, and I'm not here to yuck anyone's yum, but it seems to sketchy to me.
Looks like it might be open again as ad is up.
Tempting but too many unknowns.
Anyone ever gone?
https://cityxguide.photo/ads/gloryhole-heaven-xxx-free-service-read-ad__1561666007-22878137
This post was originally posted on 12/06/17.
Hopefully this clears up a few questions.
Nose Jelly is right, there have been a few chuckleHeads that have scared or chased a few UTRs away from the hobby. To ensure this doesn't continue, more screening is necessary.
I'll answer the most FAQ here but will not answer requests for my page or my friends. NoseJelly is right, it would take just one Chucklehead to blow the whole thing.
How do you do it?
Creating your fake FB page might be different for the unmarried monger, I will take you down the married road.
Buy a hobby phone. Mine is a smart tracfone cost 60. (limited space make sure you get a SD card too).
I bought a used laptop to create a new e-mail address (I might have been able to use the smart phone) the laptop is kept at work.
Built my page with a fake pic (could be my brother or cousin) used out of town schools then I moved to GR for work. Plus I linked my hobby phone to the page. Looks real. If any of your real life friends pop up as people you might know, do not ignore it, Block them so you close the door to any cross contamination.
How to find friends?
I started my friend list by friending some popular Political, TV, Radio personalities in the Grand Rapids area. They will friend you and you can then ad some of their friends. This gets your number up so you don't look so new. A lot of girls will not accept a friend that looks new to FB, it looks like a fake page. Some girls friend everyone so they can get their number up to the max of 5 k and then crown themselves queen of FB. LOL. Looks like there's a self esteem thing linked to the number of friends for some girls on FB.
I don't accept unsolicited friend requests without searching the page for girl friends that I can recognize. Most solicitations are spam, fake, cam or time bomb to send viruses through links on their page. Be careful.
How do I find a UTR provider?
Monitor your news feed for the single girls that need a ride, (the pretty ones already have a ride anywhere anytime). These will be average looking and needy. Pick them up, ask why they don't have a car, listen to the sob story, be empathetic. They will ask to borrow money, you ask how will you repay me? Listen to their story again, let them know there could be a way you don't have to pay me back. At this point you can easily get a 30 to 40 BJ and they will call you back because they need more money. You can go lower the next time. I only have 20 today but I can give you a ride too. This is exactly what happened when I met Caramel and she was eventually ready to meet Frenz of Benz because she needed furniture for her apartment. She had a job but no car and I eventually found out she had a BF too. That's when I blocked her from my phone and FB. I have moved too fast and the girls have blocked me too.
All girls should qualify for your UTR target, Average girls have pretty girl friends, I'm at a point where some girls are trusting me enough to have me meet their girl friends that need money too.
This is a complete reversal to what we're use to. You can not just say I have money who wants to Fuck. They will first say go fuck yourself and block you then their friends will block you too.
Why did I start this FB search for UTR's?
About a year ago I was reading on this thread, We like utr's because they are low volume providers and wish we had some to choose from. LOL if they are available for us to just choose then they are not utr's. They can not be found they have to be created and nursed to the point of trusting you. Takes time.
At the same time of the UTR comments on this page, the owner of BP got busted for underage girls. I knew this was the beginning of the end for PB and decided to seek other methods of getting dates. Most of the GR hookers are linked on FB with their real life friends too. Takes time for sorting but it has a payoff eventually.
I currently have a girl from Holland that drives through Greenville twice a month for personal business. Sometimes we just have lunch other times I bring my massage table and we get a room. Costing me only the price of lunch and the room. Average looking with tiny tits but she swallows very hungrily and squirts. She needs money but currently not willing to have anyone visit her family home in Holland. When she's ready I'll let Holland senior members have her digits and password.
That should answer most of the questions so far. My PM has been filling up and I don't have all the answers, we should keep this going on this page so we can all benefit from each others experiences. I'm sure that YMMV applies here too.
Wolverines
06-29-19, 01:11
Someone has to be brave enough to try this, right? But don't look at me, Iam not your huckleberry. While we wait for this brave soul to surface here are some good stories on glory hole experiences:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1m33zc/men_of_reddit_have_you_ever_used_a_glory_hole_was.
My thought is that there is a dude on the receiving end. I could be wrong, and I'm not here to yuck anyone's yum, but it seems to sketchy to me.
Member #6094
06-29-19, 20:18
I vote for the two highest posters Benz and Wolverines.
Someone has to be brave enough to try this, right? But don't look at me, Iam not your huckleberry. While we wait for this brave soul to surface here are some good stories on glory hole experiences:
https://www.reddit.com/r/AskReddit/comments/1m33zc/men_of_reddit_have_you_ever_used_a_glory_hole_was.
I vote for the two highest posters Benz and Wolverines.I know it's a guy on the other side, I'm not even curious. You guys get to have fun with this one. Not For Me.
WayneJWorld
06-30-19, 10:08
I know it's a guy on the other side, I'm not even curious. You guys get to have fun with this one. Not For Me.Yeah but if all you see is the back of the head? .
GrassMan1984
06-30-19, 12:30
Looks like it might be open again as ad is up.
Tempting but too many unknowns.
Anyone ever gone?
https://cityxguide.photo/ads/gloryhole-heaven-xxx-free-service-read-ad__1561666007-22878137This is a fantasy of mine. Watched to many porn videos when it was a hot chick on the other side. I would have to have some assurances, like see the chick go in the room, lock the door and I keep the key LOL.
https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2019/07/wayland-police-raid-house-over-suspected-sex-trafficking-drug-crimes.html
https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2019/07/wayland-police-raid-house-over-suspected-sex-trafficking-drug-crimes.htmlThat's to bad. I liked P10.
Considering the fed's probably got my hobby phone, should I dump it?
I never did the drug thing though.
Wolverines
07-02-19, 23:58
Can anyone confirm that this is where P10 and Kristin were staying? Street and block are in the article.
https://www.mlive.com/news/grand-rapids/2019/07/wayland-police-raid-house-over-suspected-sex-trafficking-drug-crimes.html
Can anyone confirm that this is where P10 and Kristin were staying? Street and block are in the article.The address isn't given. But they where on Maple.
Should we dump our hobby phones?
Can anyone confirm that this is where P10 and Kristin were staying? Street and block are in the article.I contacted 2 girls that use to live in the same house asking for verification. I'm waiting for their reply.
A monger who is not choosing to be identified at this time confirmed that the P10, Kristin, GT Nikki house is on Maple but not sure of the exact address.
I'm glad I never visited that house.
I actually warned the owner of the house about the same time I warned one of our massage girls. A very informed reliable source told me they were being surveilled.
The massage girls listened and moved. The owner of the Wayland house told me that was BS and he would know if he was being watched.
I was just trying to help avoid this for everyone.
Yeah but if all you see is the back of the head? .That was funny WJW. Thanks for the laugh, I'm still laughing.
What you say is true. The back of their heads all look the same. But I'm still not going to see the Glory Hole Guy
I like to grab a tit or two while I'm getting my dick sucked
Wolverines
07-03-19, 02:28
Some people just have to learn the hard way. I wonder if the owner shared the surveillance info with the girls.
Police "seized electronic devices" which means they probably have their phones. And that means they might have access to their USAsexguide accounts, Facebook accounts, email, messaging apps, etc. Be safe and avoid all contact with them for now.
I contacted 2 girls that use to live in the same house asking for verification. I'm waiting for their reply.
A monger who is not choosing to be identified at this time confirmed that the P10, Kristin, GT Nikki house is on Maple but not sure of the exact address.
I'm glad I never visited that house.
I actually warned the owner of the house about the same time I warned one of our massage girls. A very informed reliable source told me they were being surveilled.
The massage girls listened and moved. The owner of the Wayland house told me that was BS and he would know if he was being watched.
I was just trying to help avoid this for everyone.
Some people just have to learn the hard way. I wonder if the owner shared the surveillance info with the girls.
Police "seized electronic devices" which means they probably have their phones. And that means they might have access to their USAsexguide accounts, Facebook accounts, email, messaging apps, etc. Be safe and avoid all contact with them for now.Owner of the Wayland house is a trusted senior member and could easily be working with LE.
FBI are involved I'm sure they are all facing a lot of charges.
The senior member kept asking me (repeatedly) for my real face book info about a year ago. He sent me his real Facebook info but I did not respond.
This is a good example of why we should never trust anyone in this hobby with our real name.
Misunderstood
07-03-19, 07:46
I contacted 2 girls that use to live in the same house asking for verification. I'm waiting for their reply.
A monger who is not choosing to be identified at this time confirmed that the P10, Kristin, GT Nikki house is on Maple but not sure of the exact address.
I'm glad I never visited that house.
I actually warned the owner of the house about the same time I warned one of our massage girls. A very informed reliable source told me they were being surveilled.
The massage girls listened and moved. The owner of the Wayland house told me that was BS and he would know if he was being watched.
I was just trying to help avoid this for everyone.I think that we all knew that this was going to happen. One reason I avoided them, even though I thought about finally seeing GT Nikki. But she doesn't do outcalls to my place.
I think that we all knew that this was going to happen. One reason I avoided them, even though I thought about finally seeing GT Nikki. But she doesn't do outcalls to my place.I've heard LE was using the same tactics they used in the Florida MP stings. Watching the house until a client leaves then pull them over way down the road so it wouldn't be noticed by the residents of The Wayland House. If LE knows about drug activity, they were probably looking for reasons to search the vehicles too. That would make it easier to get information from the monger and make him a an informant.
https://www.wzzm13.com/article/news/warrant-obtains-evidence-of-suspected-sex-trafficking-ring-and-drug-crimes-in-wayland/69-b7f5322e-ea54-4f47-b544-7f0d5b294664
Do you mean the tactics that have resulted in most of those cases getting kicked due to irregularities?
There have always been busts, there will always be busts. Don't talk to the cops and stay anonymous here.
ABC's of mongering in Sex Prison.
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Please don't feed the trolls.
A2
Very sorry to be feeding the trolls. I do know better and have refrained in the past. Won't happen again.
I would like to publically apologize to Benz and Admin for the wording in my post.No issue here Blackfire. I'm never offended by comments. I do what I do because I want to help everyone be safe on this board. We are a team. If anyone has comments Fire away. That's what I say. Please put them on the right thread.
In my opinion there is too many posts on the wrong thread. Did you know there is a thread in the blog section called Anyone Seen This Girl? When we ask that question we should use that Thread or Blog whatever we call it. That's just my opinion, not that anyone cares.
IrishGuy77
07-06-19, 15:59
Well it's been awhile since I've posted and been even longer since I've been active in the lifestyle. Just wanted to thank you for helping me out and making this experience way better. Not sure if I ever will be active again, my health has been pretty bad. But I just wanted to let you know I appreciate all you' done. Thanks, Irishguy77.
Well it's been awhile since I've posted and been even longer since I've been active in the lifestyle. Just wanted to thank you for helping me out and making this experience way better. Not sure if I ever will be active again, my health has been pretty bad. But I just wanted to let you know I appreciate all you' done. Thanks, Irishguy77.Get well soon, we've missed you.
Member #6094
07-08-19, 18:07
So I float around from website to website on occasion I can pick up on another lead to a working girl. Last week I came across a younger lady 19 or 20 saying she was working out of the lazy T on Plainfield wasn't even a hour later I hit her up on another number seeing if I could get a better price. She was then working out of the Alpine 3 mile hotel. 🤔129300;129300; spidey sense told me LEO was involved some how.
I have not seen anymore posts from this girl I will grab a picture and post If I see her ad again.
So I float around from website to website on occasion I can pick up on another lead to a working girl. Last week I came across a younger lady 19 or 20 saying she was working out of the lazy T on Plainfield wasn't even a hour later I hit her up on another number seeing if I could get a better price. She was then working out of the Alpine 3 mile hotel. spidey sense told me LEO was involved some how.
I have not seen anymore posts from this girl I will grab a picture and post If I see her ad again.That is fucking weird, I would stay away.
Wolverines
07-09-19, 14:14
Who is going to tell her she isn't in Vegas.
Member #6094
07-09-19, 17:23
Who is going to tell her she isn't in Vegas.I had my chuckle when I seen her post the other day.
RealTree40
07-09-19, 20:00
I had my chuckle when I seen her post the other day.Sorry but I don't donate that much in Vegas for tighter better looking providers.
Spartan191
07-10-19, 06:14
Who is going to tell her she isn't in Vegas.I will be in Vegas next week and will see at least 3, maybe 4 providers for a total $600.00. All top notch women.
She will be a "low volume provider" whether she wants to be or not.
LandRover20
07-10-19, 16:47
Benz, I believe you've mentioned that your hobby phone is a smart TracFone. I also think you've posted hobby phone safety tips in the past (tried searching, can't find). What tips do you have for staying safe and undetectable with a smart TracFone? Basically, if LEO were to see my number in a provider's list, how can I be sure they can't trace it to me?
Benz, I believe you've mentioned that your hobby phone is a smart TracFone. I also think you've posted hobby phone safety tips in the past (tried searching, can't find). What tips do you have for staying safe and undetectable with a smart TracFone? Basically, if LEO were to see my number in a provider's list, how can I be sure they can't trace it to me?Always use cash to purchase the phone and all services. While registering your hobby phone it will ask for your name. Don't give it. It will prompt you a few more times and then the registration moves on to the next feild. You can give it your hobby name. The most recent phone I purchased, I registered it with my fake Facebook name. Gives a realistic look to my phone number when texting a Facebook Girl Friend.
If you are using a smart Trac phone the best place to buy your minutes for texting is speedway. They have a card on a rack with 9 options bring the card to the clerk and only pay 5 bucks for 1 k texts. For updating your time purchase the 19 dollar card for 3 months.
I bought my phone at Dollar general moved my sanDisc from my old phone. Plenty of room for everything and I love it. Camera's pics look good too.
They can't trace a phone purchased with cash and all minutes paid with cash too. Don't register your real name.
FYI. If you turn the phone off, when you turn it on data and location is activated and will drain all data while driving. Whenever you turn the phone on check to make sure data and location are off.
I have a wife that occasionally gets curious of my free time. The hobby phone allows me to leave my real phone unattended and unlocked for her to investigate. I even for get my wallet on the kitchen table occasionally and I've noticed things are moved. Then she's real comfortable that I'm not playing around. Make sure you have a safe place to hide the hobby phone and a good excuse if she finds it.
Hope this helps.
Using a smart phone with the Burner app would accomplish the same thing, no?
Could one of my fellow mongers that has seen her or will in the future please ask her to tone down the posts on STG. She has 4 of 5 and 10 of 11 on there today. It makes it hard to look over the talent, and frankly it is one of the reasons I won't see her. Two in a row is one thing but what she does is irrational.
Thanks in advance and for allowing me to vent.
LandRover20
07-11-19, 09:31
Always use cash to purchase the phone and all services. While registering your hobby phone it will ask for your name. Don't give it. It will prompt you a few more times and then the registration moves on to the next feild. You can give it your hobby name. The most recent phone I purchased, I registered it with my fake Facebook name. Gives a realistic look to my phone number when texting a Facebook Girl Friend.
If you are using a smart Trac phone the best place to buy your minutes for texting is speedway. They have a card on a rack with 9 options bring the card to the clerk and only pay 5 bucks for 1 k texts. For updating your time purchase the 19 dollar card for 3 months.
I bought my phone at Dollar general moved my sanDisc from my old phone. Plenty of room for everything and I love it. Camera's pics look good too.
They can't trace a phone purchased with cash and all minutes paid with cash too. Don't register your real name.
FYI. If you turn the phone off, when you turn it on data and location is activated and will drain all data while driving. Whenever you turn the phone on check to make sure data and location are off.
I have a wife that occasionally gets curious of my free time. The hobby phone allows me to leave my real phone unattended and unlocked for her to investigate. I even for get my wallet on the kitchen table occasionally and I've noticed things are moved. Then she's real comfortable that I'm not playing around. Make sure you have a safe place to hide the hobby phone and a good excuse if she finds it.
Hope this helps.Thanks, Benz!
Using a smart phone with the Burner app would accomplish the same thing, no?I have a burner app on my hobby phone. The app is free but there is always a cost. The burner app asks to access all your contacts. I get the feeling that it could be detected and leave a data trail. I tried setting up a burner app on my real phone and could not push the allow button when it asked for access to my contacts. Maybe it's just me but I prefer total anonymity. Having a hobby phone also allows me to store pics, I can't do that on my real phone.
Looks like LandRover20 is looking for anonymity too.
I have a burner app on my hobby phone. The app is free but there is always a cost. The burner app asks to access all your contacts. I get the feeling that it could be detected and leave a data trail. I tried setting up a burner app on my real phone and could not push the allow button when it asked for access to my contacts. Maybe it's just me but I prefer total anonymity.Good points.
LikeVariety
07-11-19, 14:34
I have it from a few reliable sources. Multiple providers are being watched. Some are cutting deals to give up other girls or clients. They don't need to follow rules police do. If you think a provider won't give you up to save her own ass you crazy. I consider all providers now suspect even if I have seen many times before. Some girls are known to have legal issues in past. They most likely to try to cut a deal because they looking at more severe charges or sentences. I am avoiding any girl I know has had legal problems in past. Check area more thoroughly. Pay attention to surroundings. Careful what you say. Be willing to walk at any sign of odd behavior. They not after girls, they after mongers and dealers.
JuanDeagle
07-11-19, 17:08
Who is going to tell her she isn't in Vegas.I'm from Vegas and she isn't anywhere near a $600 IN Vegas. Not even close!
Wolverines
07-11-19, 21:35
They did this with at least one provider last summer. Her Ad showed up in GR, Muskegon, Lansing and Holland. Can't say for sure she was working with LE, but they were definitely using her Ad. Appreciate the info LV. If you hear anything else please post it.
I have it from a few reliable sources. Multiple providers are being watched. Some are cutting deals to give up other girls or clients. They don't need to follow rules police do. If you think a provider won't give you up to save her own ass you crazy. I consider all providers now suspect even if I have seen many times before. Some girls are known to have legal issues in past. They most likely to try to cut a deal because they looking at more severe charges or sentences. I am avoiding any girl I know has had legal problems in past. Check area more thoroughly. Pay attention to surroundings. Careful what you say. Be willing to walk at any sign of odd behavior. They not after girls, they after mongers and dealers.
MwmForHotFun
07-11-19, 22:31
Hi fellow mongers,
I've RTFF but am only finding info about South GR, airport area etc. I'll be in town this weekend and am staying near the arena. Any AMPs or recommended escorts in that vicinity? Won't be able to travel outside of downtown. TIA.
MrLimpBiscuit
07-12-19, 09:07
Seems odd, soon after wayland, her pics poped up again, be safe.
LandRover20
07-12-19, 10:42
I have a burner app on my hobby phone. The app is free but there is always a cost. The burner app asks to access all your contacts. I get the feeling that it could be detected and leave a data trail. I tried setting up a burner app on my real phone and could not push the allow button when it asked for access to my contacts. Maybe it's just me but I prefer total anonymity. Having a hobby phone also allows me to store pics, I can't do that on my real phone.
Looks like LandRover20 is looking for anonymity too.I am looking for anonymity, but in today's world it seems either impossible to find or requires too much time and maintenance. Even with a hobby phone, I still find myself sticking only to the safest providers possible (you'd never find me in wayland, in cheap notels, or with high-profile providers). It's too bad, there are some girls I'd love to just spend a brief visit with, but worry about leaving a trail. The Saginaw duo comes to mind, but they were so high traffic it set my spidey senses off. I know conventional wisdom says LEO is mostly only after drug activity, which I'm the opposite of, but I'm starting to feel kind of constricted.
Wolverines
07-12-19, 11:29
I swore I saw her Ad yesterday but now I can't find it. P10, gaptooth Nikki and that Kristin chick definitely need to be avoided right now. Haven't seen any Ads for Nikki or Kristin.
Seems odd, soon after wayland, her pics poped up again, be safe.
Wolverines
07-12-19, 11:40
Speaking of the Saginaw duo. It came out in court that the hotel was suspicious because one girl booked two rooms. So the hotel called LE. I wouldn't think booking two rooms would trigger something like that so I have to assume the appearance of the girl booking the rooms also had something to do with it. So this was not a case of LE watching their Ads and being proactive. Just thought I should share this info.
I am looking for anonymity, but in today's world it seems either impossible to find or requires too much time and maintenance. Even with a hobby phone, I still find myself sticking only to the safest providers possible (you'd never find me in wayland, in cheap notels, or with high-profile providers). It's too bad, there are some girls I'd love to just spend a brief visit with, but worry about leaving a trail. The Saginaw duo comes to mind, but they were so high traffic it set my spidey senses off. I know conventional wisdom says LEO is mostly only after drug activity, which I'm the opposite of, but I'm starting to feel kind of constricted.
I swore I saw her Ad yesterday but now I can't find it. P10, gaptooth Nikki and that Kristin chick definitely need to be avoided right now. Haven't seen any Ads for Nikki or Kristin.I saw the ad also, clicked on the call me button, it was not her normal number.
MrLimpBiscuit
07-12-19, 15:52
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/hey-guys-happy-friday-eve/899724758707
Her older pics.
Wolverines
07-12-19, 17:19
Thanks for the link. No doubt we will want to not contact whomever is behind this Ad.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/hey-guys-happy-friday-eve/899724758707
Her older pics.
Phones were confiscated during the raid so would totally make sense that she is usually a different number. That is, if it is her.
I saw the ad also, clicked on the call me button, it was not her normal number.
LandRover20
07-15-19, 10:59
Speaking of the Saginaw duo. It came out in court that the hotel was suspicious because one girl booked two rooms. So the hotel called LE. I wouldn't think booking two rooms would trigger something like that so I have to assume the appearance of the girl booking the rooms also had something to do with it. So this was not a case of LE watching their Ads and being proactive. Just thought I should share this info.Because I've never visited a girl in a hotel, I've always wondered, do they keep booking in the same hotel (s)? That wouldn't be smart, but when you're as incredibly busy as they were, don't you run out of options?
Chad Adler
07-15-19, 18:23
Because I've never visited a girl in a hotel, I've always wondered, do they keep booking in the same hotel (s)? That wouldn't be smart, but when you're as incredibly busy as they were, don't you run out of options?Hotels often offer discounted weekly rates. Most girls doing dates out of hotels are living in the rooms.
LandRover20
07-16-19, 10:27
Hotels often offer discounted weekly rates. Most girls doing dates out of hotels are living in the rooms.Which seems like it would make them an even bigger target, no?
Chad Adler
07-16-19, 14:05
Which seems like it would make them an even bigger target, no?If cops wanted to go after any particular girl, all they would have to do it reply to her online ad, go wherever she tells them, and bust her there. Whether it's a room she's been staying in for a long time or not is irrelevant. That's simply not how sting operations generally work though. The police like to control the environment, so they will either get their own room to bust Johns in or pose as a John picking up women on the street.
Hotel workers are well aware of which rooms have women working out of them, but they're paying customers, so as long as they're not disturbing other guests, they're usually left alone. Occasionally a hotel in a shitty area will have a no-visitor policy, but other than that, going to see someone in a hotel room is not something you can get in trouble for.
A Detroit hotel that was well known for drugs and prostitution was raided a while back, but that involves warrants and wouldn't be worth doing to bust one girl working out of a room in GR.
Saw this ad and was wondering if anyone took a plunge on this one? She looks like Alicia who used to work out her home. Around the Madison and hall area. I'm not sure. I'm hoping it is her, cause she used to give one of the best BBBJ I've ever had. Can someone confirm this for me. http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/looking-to-give-some-amazing-h/547192556296.
Member #6094
07-20-19, 14:12
I understand that allot if not most of the providers are on something on a regular basis. However I am so sick and tired of not getting responses back. Anyone else having issues with responses or response time?
I'll text a few hours before and still nothing normally text 3 or 4 providers and still nothing. I have never ghosted anyone when I said I was on my way. I have changed my number a few times. I miss CL dearly LOL. Last night I got a response and I texted back immediately got a text back about 2 hours later. Seriously WTF? I understand you may be booked but I highly doubt it all day long. Thinking I might just hang this up.
Does anyone use text apps which ones?
I understand that allot if not most of the providers are on something on a regular basis. However I am so sick and tired of not getting responses back. Anyone else having issues with responses or response time?
I'll text a few hours before and still nothing normally text 3 or 4 providers and still nothing. I have never ghosted anyone when I said I was on my way. I have changed my number a few times. I miss CL dearly LOL. Last night I got a response and I texted back immediately got a text back about 2 hours later. Seriously WTF? I understand you may be booked but I highly doubt it all day long. Thinking I might just hang this up.
Does anyone use text apps which ones?Your post indicates you were trying to make contact on a Friday night. I've said this many times before. Don't try to see anyone new during prime time. Providers are getting a lot of messages on Fridays, contact and meet them on a weekday, now she knows you and will respond better (if she liked you).
I never monger on weekends, most girls are late and want to rush you because there's another monger waiting.
The only provider I see on weekends is Kandi, she's a very smart drug free provider that always treats me right.
Sharkesque
07-20-19, 16:05
I understand that allot if not most of the providers are on something on a regular basis. However I am so sick and tired of not getting responses back. Anyone else having issues with responses or response time?
I'll text a few hours before and still nothing normally text 3 or 4 providers and still nothing. I have never ghosted anyone when I said I was on my way. I have changed my number a few times. I miss CL dearly LOL. Last night I got a response and I texted back immediately got a text back about 2 hours later. Seriously WTF? I understand you may be booked but I highly doubt it all day long. Thinking I might just hang this up.
Does anyone use text apps which ones?I use Burner sometimes, it's pretty good.
I've found calling is sometimes much better than texting, it seems like it's easy for girls to lose track of their sea of texts. And yeah like Benz said once someone meets you once and puts you in their phone they're more likely to actually respond, so try off days if you can.
Wolverines
07-21-19, 13:43
Here are some apps with good reviews: Textfree, Burner, TextNow, Talkatone.
I understand that allot if not most of the providers are on something on a regular basis. However I am so sick and tired of not getting responses back. Anyone else having issues with responses or response time?
I'll text a few hours before and still nothing normally text 3 or 4 providers and still nothing. I have never ghosted anyone when I said I was on my way. I have changed my number a few times. I miss CL dearly LOL. Last night I got a response and I texted back immediately got a text back about 2 hours later. Seriously WTF? I understand you may be booked but I highly doubt it all day long. Thinking I might just hang this up.
Does anyone use text apps which ones?
Member #6094
07-22-19, 11:43
I will check them out makes it a bit easier not having to have two phones and hiding one. I normally can't call a provider where I'm living I will when I'm on my way there just to make sure I'm not getting myself into somthing I shouldn't be.
Thanks all.
Here are some apps with good reviews: Textfree, Burner, TextNow, Talkatone.
Any one seen this one! Is she legit! Any information is appreciated.
http://lansing.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/get-lost-in-the-curves/944232609447
OliverTwist501
07-26-19, 16:38
Any one seen this one! Is she legit! Any information is appreciated.
http://lansing.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/get-lost-in-the-curves/944232609447These types of Qs are better asked in the Escorts section (here or Lansing).
Member #6094
07-29-19, 16:43
I like how I see fetish / fantasy friendly often but yet when you ask for somthing particular they won't do it or have some excuse. Anyone else have these issues? I've seen this with several providers.
I like how I see fetish / fantasy friendly often but yet when you ask for somthing particular they won't do it or have some excuse. Anyone else have these issues? I've seen this with several providers.Sounds like someone else might be making the list for them. If they did it themselves then they are just trying to get you in the door anyway they can.
If you do not give them all the money before you find out the real menu, you can give them less for the short menu. Always pay at the end or you might lose time and services from any provider, even if you have seen them before.
The person who controls the date is the person with the money. If they know they're not getting paid until you get laid, they are much more accommodating. If they say no play until you pay, walk out the door. Before your hand hits the door knob they are usually singing a different time.
Speaking of singing, KyraJade will sing to you during her massage. She's also one of those that wants her money upfront. For those that have been reviewed well, I bend the rules for them.
Wolverines
07-30-19, 15:17
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/news/investigations/2019/07/29/sex-trafficking-illicit-massage-parlors-cases-fail/1206517001/
This is how I meet girls on FB.
Need a ride ASAP. I have ⛽ money. Can anyone help me? Located 60th and Kalamazoo.
If I answer this and show up I can usually create a new UTR. Ask her why she doesn't have a car. Listen for however long it takes for her to get all her frustrations out. Then explain to her how she's sitting on a gold mine. She posted a ride request 3 min. Ago and I'm not available but I always check while I'm in Grand Rapids and I make time.
Now all we need is 250 k In crowdsource funding, soke smashing APP development and folks we have the next big thing in ride sharing. PUTA. We'll get you there, we'll get you off.
This is how I meet girls on FB.
Need a ride ASAP. I have ; money. Can anyone help me? Located 6xth and Kalamazoo.
If I answer this and show up I can usually create a new UTR. Ask her why she doesn't have a car. Listen for however long it takes for her to get all her frustrations out. Then explain to her how she's sitting on a gold mine. She posted a ride request 3 min. Ago and I'm not available but I always check while I'm in Grand Rapids and I make time.
August is the second biggest retail month of the year. Back to school drains as much or more money than Christmas. There will be a shortage of funds for all providers, escort and MP.
Negotiations will be in our favor the closer we get to the end of Aug. Use your big head to feed your little head more often.
One method I use, tell them I have a hobby phone and you can text me anytime. When they text say great I'd love to see you. I only have 40 right now. She will ask, can you do 75 please I really need the money. I have 50 and I can be there in one hour.
Always negotiating, stay safe
August is the second biggest retail month of the year. Back to school drains as much or more money than Christmas. There will be a shortage of funds for all providers, escort and MP.
Negotiations will be in our favor the closer we get to the end of Aug. Use your big head to feed your little head more often.
One method I use, tell them I have a hobby phone and you can text me anytime. When they text say great I'd love to see you. I only have 40 right now. She will ask, can you do 75 please I really need the money. I have 50 and I can be there in one hour.
Always negotiating, stay safeThanks a lot for the heads up, senior man. Let's help our esteemed friends get school supplies for thieir kids while also benefitting at the same time.
It is much more difficult to find low volume providers now. I used to randomly find girls on CL and BP, some that would post just one time, trying to make money for a spring break trip or something. I don't know how you would even find that type of girl now, I am sure that they still exist.
Once you've agreed to pay the rate now it's down to expected or agreed upon service. This is why I hold my money until the end. Is the pic real and recent? If not walk out, they've already been lying to you to get you in the door. I've had girls try to use a condom for BJ or short me on time. Holding all or half the money assures me I will get the double shot she allows within the half hour. If she doesn't like me holding MY Money until the end, I walk out the door.
We all get more excited about someone new and they're more nervous about you. Will you follow through and pay? To be a good negotiator you must stay strong and not cave. (If the little head is doing the thinking, this won't work) If we all do this, we will all benefit from the providers accepting this as the new normal in GR.
The secret to walking out the door is desensitizing, it gets easier to do after you've done it once. Prepare for a walkout. Text or call a provider you're familiar with ask if she's available today and I might have time to see you. If you have to walk out, she is your plan B but never ever tell her she was plan B. As I've mentioned before, always see a new provider on weekdays not on prime time this is best for everyone including your plan B. They are more available and happy to see a client during the slowed days.
It is much more difficult to find low volume providers now. I used to randomly find girls on CL and BP, some that would post just one time, trying to make money for a spring break trip or something. I don't know how you would even find that type of girl now, I am sure that they still exist.Agree. I am seeing on of my ATF providers later this week. She used to see 2 or 3 in a day. Now I am lucky to be one of regulars to get get scheduled in the que. Higher rates but still reasonable. However, she has the best GFE skills around and is only available for a short time. As usual, I let my little head doing the talking. Cannot share her info because I might end up off the preferred list. Gone are the days of low volume providers unless you want to pay through the nose. I understand, they have to make a living. Priorities for me are, safe and good service. I am willing to compromise higher volumes.
Once you've agreed to pay the rate now it's down to expected or agreed upon service. This is why I hold my money until the end. Is the pic real and recent? If not walk out, they've already been lying to you to get you in the door. I've had girls try to use a condom for BJ or short me on time. Holding all or half the money assures me I will get the double shot she allows within the half hour. If she doesn't like me holding MY Money until the end, I walk out the door.
We all get more excited about someone new and they're more nervous about you. Will you follow through and pay? To be a good negotiator you must stay strong and not cave. (If the little head is doing the thinking, this won't work) If we all do this, we will all benefit from the providers accepting this as the new normal in GR.
The secret to walking out the door is desensitizing, it gets easier to do after you've done it once. Prepare for a walkout. Text or call a provider you're familiar with ask if she's available today and I might have time to see you. If you have to walk out, she is your plan B but never ever tell her she was plan B. As I've mentioned before, always see a new provider on weekdays not on prime time this is best for everyone including your plan B. They are more available and happy to see a client during the slowed days.Thanks for the info Benz, I will definitely start following those steps to benefit the team.
PrivateParts
08-05-19, 23:41
It is much more difficult to find low volume providers now. I used to randomly find girls on CL and BP, some that would post just one time, trying to make money for a spring break trip or something. I don't know how you would even find that type of girl now, I am sure that they still exist.Ever since CL removed "personals" it's been very difficult to meet woman for casual hookups / affair or even hopeful UTR providers. However it's not impossible. I have found some really good f# at % buddies that way, but it does take some effort and probably not for the average monger. But if you enjoy the chase more than the catch, here is a long winded post on CL:
First know that any CL ad that is even subtly asking to meet someone of the opposite sex gets flagged almost immediately these days. If the ad gets through the auto filter it can still be a scam, a dude pretending to be woman, or an actual real person. Navigating CL is kind of like the Road Warrior: it's every man for himself with no rules. If creative post comes online for a woman trying to meet a man, the predominant mode of operation for guys appears to be respond quickly & flag it so nobody else can talk to her. Likewise if a man posts an ad it'll get flagged just as fast. It's like guys are trying to stomp out the competition. I'm pretty sure it's not the moral police who are flagging these ads for violating terms of service either because a gay male can post "bottom needing top" and it'll stay up for days. A straight man & woman though vaporizes within hours. That's my theory anyway.
If you want to find a discreet affair then CL is still pretty much your only "free / anonymous" place to do it. Married women still post / look there because you don't need an app, or have to pay. But to find a good woman on CL you'll still need to master the art of "the pickup" via online conversation just as you do in a bar. First you need to be quick because her ad won't last long. Being conversational, intelligent, charming, funny, and attractive doesn't hurt. Only bots and scammers respond to "what's up? A real woman won't respond to an unsolicited dick pic either, no matter how horny she might be. If you aren't good at picking up women in real life you probably won't have much success online. But CL still has women posting some not-so-subtle ads saying they need cash. And money talks. Those could be pros, or might be a potential UTR girl. I've had luck talking girls into doing more than sell video / panties, but you have to be engaging and not a creep about it.
Regardless what you do, look out for scams. A tried and true CL poster knows to obscure their email name so it doesn't go through, while a newbie might not. So if you get an email from someone who's name is blank it's a least a sign they're familiar with Craigslist whereas the real lonely housewife may be naive and will use her normal email. Look for signs and respond accordingly. If you do a pic exchange, ask for a posed selfie or something to ensure she's real. You do the same. Real people have no problem doing that but the fakes will make one hysterical excuse after another why they can't. I have come across guys posing as women online. Caught them red handed. I'm not sure if they are out there just playing games or trying to get the drop on others to blackmail. But it happens. Probably more often than you think.
If you come across a pro ad it'll be short and all business. If it's real a text number will given, so use a disposable number from a texting app so you. Those that go back & forth only over email aren't real. Also stay away from ads or responses that say email me at "bustymilfsexnow at G Mail" or something. I can't believe people fall for that. Also scroll down on each CL ad. Most have tons of white space before it gets to a jumble of "bot" verbal spew. Those are frauds that will spam the crap out of you if they get your email or phone.
As I stated, CL is pretty wild right now and not very reliable. If you are willing to put in the time you might find a gem here and there. It's not as barren as some think (myself having recent successes both locally and while visiting cities for a fraction of monger costs). But if you want to find someone right away with known skills then CL isn't for you and you'll pay for it.
She texted me on Sunday (unsolicited) with the same pictures she has on STG with message that she will be in Grand Rapids this week. I set up a date for today and confirmed again last night. I get to the area she posted and all went quite. No response to text or email. Fortunately, Lexy was available and accommodated me on short notice.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=92387&cityid=-22
IrishGuy77
08-09-19, 21:49
Sheesh can't even get on there to look tonight!! Bad enough I can't go see anyone! Wish I had some digits and they could text me a few naughty pics!
Happyone99
08-09-19, 23:59
Looks like it is back again. They sure have been struggling lately. Hopefully they got their problems ironed out.
Sheesh can't even get on there to look tonight!! Bad enough I can't go see anyone! Wish I had some digits and they could text me a few naughty pics!
I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.
GRSlinger11
08-10-19, 16:31
I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.A mythical creature?
GuitarGod19
08-10-19, 16:46
I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.Are you going to share your toys or keep them to yourself? LOL.
BackToTheWall
08-10-19, 18:13
I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.I'll bite.
Link? Insight?
I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.Let us know when you're ready to share!
MrLimpBiscuit
08-10-19, 19:15
I found my thrill, new go to.
Young, pretty spinner with complete GFE and skills.
Clean and totally drug free. with great hygiene and attitude.Thats hard to come by.
Ellljayyy96
08-10-19, 19:19
Just met up with Nikki about a half hour ago. Definitly a good choice. She's a MILF, which I'm into, and her pictures were accurate. I just wanted head and some cowgirl and she delivered. Cute tits and a great big booty. She was very nice and punctual. The whole process of setting up an appointment was simple and to the point. I contacted her and within an hour I was leaving her location satisfied. Will definitely repeat!
Feel free to pm me with any questions.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/thicknikki/074347848245
RikkiSixxx
08-10-19, 21:41
Can't hold it in any longer. Any trustworthy slim girls someone can recommend? Much appreciated my fellow mongers.
ChipCharger
08-12-19, 11:55
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/sugar-and-spice/114543295144
A little marketing change. This is Blonde 25. She'd make a fortune if the full range of services were available but that's wishful thinking. If I had deeper pockets I'd consider the sugar daddy option LOL. Some of you guys may want to consider that.
Moonglow913
08-12-19, 16:12
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/sugar-and-spice/114543295144
A little marketing change. This is Blonde 25. She'd make a fortune if the full range of services were available but that's wishful thinking. If I had deeper pockets I'd consider the sugar daddy option LOL. Some of you guys may want to consider that.Not really questioning just double checking. Are you sure this is B25?
Not really questioning just double checking. Are you sure this is B25?The phone number matches.
ChipCharger
08-12-19, 18:13
Not really questioning just double checking. Are you sure this is B25?Google her if you doubt me. Look throughly at all the other sites listed as I did. You'll see the same photos and the same phone number. At points along the way. Compare the moles if you will. Am I sure? I'm pretty sure yeah. Call the sugar and spice number sir and put it to the test but I'd bet you'll get blonde 25. Her hair is dark in the sugar / spice pics and she has glasses but she wears glasses.
In the sugar / spice posts she is not denying who she is. She really doesn't use a name at all but uses the phrase within the post. It is not like she is changing her name. Like I said, it is marketing fair and square. They are pretty hot photos and I almost thought they were fake. I think it is pretty good out of the box marketing / thinking. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing. She is not abandoning her Blonde 25 name or image in fact both posts occur quite close together.
Google her if you doubt me. Look throughly at all the other sites listed as I did. You'll see the same photos and the same phone number. At points along the way. Compare the moles if you will. Am I sure? I'm pretty sure yeah. Call the sugar and spice number sir and put it to the test but I'd bet you'll get blonde 25. Her hair is dark in the sugar / spice pics and she has glasses but she wears glasses.
In the sugar / spice posts she is not denying who she is. She really doesn't use a name at all but uses the phrase within the post. It is not like she is changing her name. Like I said, it is marketing fair and square. They are pretty hot photos and I almost thought they were fake. I think it is pretty good out of the box marketing / thinking. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing. She is not abandoning her Blonde 25 name or image in fact both posts occur quite close together.The pics do resemble blonde25 but the wording in the ad about massage and part time sugar daddy is word for word the same ad Kristi kay started posting after she got busted.
ChipCharger
08-13-19, 09:32
The pics do resemble blonde25 but the wording in the ad about massage and part time sugar daddy is word for word the same ad Kristi kay started posting after she got busted.Notice the pictures on her ad on this site if you have any doubt.
https://www.adultlook.com/p/3063763
Wolverines
08-13-19, 22:01
That pigtail photo......DAMN.
Notice the pictures on her ad on this site if you have any doubt.
https://www.adultlook.com/p/3063763
Wolverines
08-13-19, 22:03
https://www.woodtv.com/news/kent-county/study-gr-has-6m-illicit-massage-parlor-industry/?utm_source=newsfore&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=1986&tqid=j6a_fGc2EVYBDkepir9KEt3C4Z6BKedxKZx5Nfta
ChicagoSouth
08-18-19, 08:26
Has anyone seen any girls from this site. This one has to be fake.
https://bodyrubshop.com/ads/my-soft-booty-and-my-smooth-milky-boobs-will-make-you-melt-inside-me__1566128722-27533148
Wolverines
08-18-19, 13:02
She is real somewhere, just not here in GR. And the provider Ads on that site are identical to the Ads on Cityxguide. Assuming that they are not partners with cityx and thus they are just stealing that data and posting it on their site as their own.
Has anyone seen any girls from this site. This one has to be fake.
https://bodyrubshop.com/ads/my-soft-booty-and-my-smooth-milky-boobs-will-make-you-melt-inside-me__1566128722-27533148
Google her if you doubt me. Look throughly at all the other sites listed as I did. You'll see the same photos and the same phone number. At points along the way. Compare the moles if you will. Am I sure? I'm pretty sure yeah. Call the sugar and spice number sir and put it to the test but I'd bet you'll get blonde 25. Her hair is dark in the sugar / spice pics and she has glasses but she wears glasses.
In the sugar / spice posts she is not denying who she is. She really doesn't use a name at all but uses the phrase within the post. It is not like she is changing her name. Like I said, it is marketing fair and square. They are pretty hot photos and I almost thought they were fake. I think it is pretty good out of the box marketing / thinking. I don't think it is necessarily a bad thing. She is not abandoning her Blonde 25 name or image in fact both posts occur quite close together.It's def blonde 25, same style glasses and everything. She's taking charge of the market and diversifying. At least she's using the same pictures, and not fake ones.
Member #6094
08-22-19, 16:20
LEO is out and about and just got another provider out of the Rockford area. I know because I was told by a legit source. Please watch yourselves. I'm hanging it up all. Over and out.
Wolverines
08-22-19, 16:45
Is this the provider who advertised Rockford but was really closer to the Sparta area?
LEO is out and about and just got another provider out of the Rockford area. I know because I was told by a legit source. Please watch yourselves. I'm hanging it up all. Over and out.
Moonglow913
08-23-19, 08:02
It's def blonde 25, same style glasses and everything. She's taking charge of the market and diversifying. At least she's using the same pictures, and not fake ones.I have never seen B25 mainly for the reason that it has been widely reported she is non-FS, at least for her massage side of services. In her ad she says she is seeking a sugar daddy and I was wondering whether by "diversifying" you mean under a different "arrangement" the menu is more open.
I have never seen B25 mainly for the reason that it has been widely reported she is non-FS, at least for her massage side of services. In her ad she says she is seeking a sugar daddy and I was wondering whether by "diversifying" you mean under a different "arrangement" the menu is more open.I've been in contact with her a few times about the sugar daddy thing she's looking for but I still can't figure out if it means more or not. The more I see the add I'm inclined to believe it's just another way to attract business. She posts in the message section, there's no additional services listed, her rates are the same, and the text messages I get back from her do not indicate more is available. She is either being very coy with her communication or it's just another way to market to a larger audience that she hasn't reached yet. I've seen her 2 x and she has been great for what she offers but neither time was a finish for me. If I could be assured there was more available I'd set an appointment for sure. Seeing without touching is just frustrating. So I haven't been back.
I may be throwing in the towel. I've been around for a little over 8 years. I've seen my fair share of girls. Some were reviewed on here, most were not. Even when Backpage was around it was never that good. I honestly can't believe some of the girls that I've paid to be with. In 8 years only a few of the girls I saw were actually good looking. Most were not even average looking. I've been to incalls that were dumps and hotels were the provider was clearly living out of. I think my expectations are higher than most people. I can't believe some of the girls that even run ads. Does anyone really pay to see them? Service only goes so far. If there not attractive service means nothing. Skip the Games, Cityxguide, and all the other popular sites have the same ads over and over again. It's just bad out there.
IrishGuy77
08-24-19, 14:40
Have not seen him lately.
RealTree40
08-24-19, 14:51
Have not seen him lately.He posted on here awhile ago he found his unicorn. Lucky sob. Let us remember the man the myth the legend. !
Have not seen him lately.I've been seeing a new UTR in Sand Lake. 40 yr old with skills.( FB friend) CMT with a massage table in her home. I'll let you know when she's ready to meet Frenz of Benz.
StevesMilin
08-25-19, 09:58
I've been seeing a new UTR in Sand Lake. 40 yr old with skills.( FB friend) CMT with a massage table in her home. I'll let you know when she's ready to meet Frenz of Benz.Nirvana! Mature CMT with skills and table. Enjoy this treasure!
StevesMilin
08-25-19, 10:01
I may be throwing in the towel. I've been around for a little over 8 years. I've seen my fair share of girls. Some were reviewed on here, most were not. Even when Backpage was around it was never that good. I honestly can't believe some of the girls that I've paid to be with. In 8 years only a few of the girls I saw were actually good looking. Most were not even average looking. I've been to incalls that were dumps and hotels were the provider was clearly living out of. I think my expectations are higher than most people. I can't believe some of the girls that even run ads. Does anyone really pay to see them? Service only goes so far. If there not attractive service means nothing. Skip the Games, Cityxguide, and all the other popular sites have the same ads over and over again. It's just bad out there.Rome, have you tried the Sugar Daddy route? Frustrating at first but higher quality ladies in general, some very reasonably priced. I can give you a couple of mine in GR and Ionia if you're interested.
Rome, have you tried the Sugar Daddy route? Frustrating at first but higher quality ladies in general, some very reasonably priced. I can give you a couple of mine in GR and Ionia if you're interested.Your inbox is full, can you please clear?
Rome, have you tried the Sugar Daddy route? Frustrating at first but higher quality ladies in general, some very reasonably priced. I can give you a couple of mine in GR and Ionia if you're interested.Thanks. I'm interested. I had a UTR girl I saw for a long time. By far the best experience I've had. It was more of an SB / SA relationship. PM me if you want. Thanks again.
IrishGuy77
08-25-19, 11:44
Found out that girls from other areas really like to play games! Been doing this for awhile and I know where to find the good ones! Kandi Angel and few others I'll be sticking to!
Anyone know if PMs sent are automatically saved in the Sent folder or is that something that has to be toggled on? Trying to figure out if some messages I sent went thru or not.
Thanks Fellas!
NJ.
Anyone know if PMs sent are automatically saved in the Sent folder or is that something that has to be toggled on? Trying to figure out if some messages I sent went thru or not.
Thanks Fellas!
NJ.There's a box at the bottom of the message that is always checked. Save message. If you uncheck it it won't be saved.
There's a box at the bottom of the message that is always checked. Save message. If you uncheck it it won't be saved.Thanks Professor!
Texted Thursday to set up a morning date for Friday, agreed on time and place. After driving 45 minutes to see her, crickets. No response to text or phone. Waited to report to give her a chance to contact me to explain and / or make it up. That didn't happen.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/tall-sexy-blonde/879682830678
IrishGuy77
09-01-19, 12:07
And a few keep me smiling! Kandiland! Angel luvvv! Got to get feeling better soon!
Looking for provider that does a really good BBBJ. Been missing that lately.
Thanks.
IrishGuy77
09-01-19, 21:02
Looking for provider that does a really good BBBJ. Been missing that lately.
Thanks.Only one left I know and recommend is angel luvvv! Can find her on stg.
RealTree40
09-01-19, 21:06
Looking for provider that does a really good BBBJ. Been missing that lately.
Thanks.In my opinion still the best hands down angel luv is great too but couldn't go all the way down and stay, jasmine can live at the bottom good luck either way. Stay safe.
IrishGuy77
09-02-19, 07:03
In my opinion still the best hands down angel luv is great too but couldn't go all the way down and stay, jasmine can live at the bottom good luck either way. Stay safe.Who's this Jasmine you speak of? She in GR?
RealTree40
09-02-19, 14:21
Who's this Jasmine you speak of? She in GR?Yes she's on stg in Grand Rapids usually under available. Trust me you're welcome.
IrishGuy77
09-03-19, 20:10
Yes she's on stg in Grand Rapids usually under available. Trust me you're welcome.Just saw a review, and she doesn't look like her pics!
RealTree40
09-03-19, 22:01
Just saw a review, and she doesn't look like her pics!She looks a lot better than her pics she's been reviewed on here many of times all raving BTW.
I look forward to the guy that posts the report that he helped her out by getting her a room and lo and behold, she scammed him by stating for three weeks on his card .
I look forward to the guy that posts the report that he helped her out by getting her a room and lo and behold, she scammed him by stating for three weeks on his card .Who are you talking about?
Anyone know a good AA BBBJ provider with a boyfriend / husband who likes to watch? A fetish of mine is having her man watch as she swallows my load. Hard to come by around here.
Who are you talking about?Assuming you mean kamilia blue!? She is just so messed up, great head game but she is just a mess. Lost her is, wants you to buy her booze and smokes after car date. And then the whole help me get a room. She is a nice girl but can't seem to keep her head on straight. She would be a top provider if she cleaned up.
Anyone know a good AA BBBJ provider with a boyfriend / husband who likes to watch? A fetish of mine is having her man watch as she swallows my load. Hard to come by around here.When they have a BF willing to watch it's usually a pimp.
Get a duo with Angel Luv, they will do just about anything you ask. One watching while the other gives head is what they like to do.
Last time I saw Angel she asked me if her GF could watch. She likes to watch and play with herself.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/sexy-angelluv-and-squirting-bf/627925041222
They have the cleanest hooker incall I've ever seen, I will Repeat.
IrishGuy77
09-05-19, 17:30
When they have a BF willing to watch it's usually a pimp.
Get a duo with Angel Luv, they will do just about anything you ask. One watching while the other gives head is what they like to do.
Last time I saw Angel she asked me if her GF could watch. She likes to watch and play with herself.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/sexy-angelluv-and-squirting-bf/627925041222
They have the cleanest hooker incall I've ever seen, I will Repeat.That sounds pretty hot! Of course she is super hot!
I wasnt quite sure if requests really went in escorts so figured general was a safe bet:
Does GR have any asian providers? I have looked up and down and could not find an asian provider that would respond to texts (likely was texting dummy numbers or bots). Anyone have a line they want to shoot your boy?
<3.
I wasnt quite sure if requests really went in escorts so figured general was a safe bet:
Does GR have any asian providers? I have looked up and down and could not find an asian provider that would respond to texts (likely was texting dummy numbers or bots). Anyone have a line they want to shoot your boy?
<3.I have never personally dreamt of her but wolverines did vouch for her. Note that she only does hour appointments according to him.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/asian/sexy-petite-asian-treat/986776048884
Wolverines
09-09-19, 21:13
Yeap, here ya go. http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=93745&cityid=222.
I wasnt quite sure if requests really went in escorts so figured general was a safe bet:
Does GR have any asian providers? I have looked up and down and could not find an asian provider that would respond to texts (likely was texting dummy numbers or bots). Anyone have a line they want to shoot your boy?
<3.
Yeap, here ya go. http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=93745&cityid=222.She is one of the ones who I text but never responds. LOL guess I will keep at it. Thanks fellas.
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/femme-domme-30441674
Anyone else think you need to be at least an 8 to try something like this? What type of cuck goes for this.
I contacted with snide remark and got the typical low energy "you're a loser who has to pay for pussy". I always find this pretty funny. Anyways posting this up for communal lulz and I guess if someone wants to give a 4. 5 - 5. 2 money for nothing, have at it. Stay safe fellas.
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/femme-domme-30441674
Anyone else think you need to be at least an 8 to try something like this? What type of cuck goes for this.
I contacted with snide remark and got the typical low energy "you're a loser who has to pay for pussy". I always find this pretty funny. Anyways posting this up for communal lulz and I guess if someone wants to give a 4. 5 - 5. 2 money for nothing, have at it. Stay safe fellas."Seems like they all financially dominate me!
IrishGuy77
09-12-19, 10:47
You got mail.
You got mail.Hey Irish.
She'll probably trade for an overnight, call her.
Member #6094
09-16-19, 16:55
Anyone have any connections near the west side? Walker, comstock, alpine? Looking for car dates preferably. Thanks all.
Anyone have any connections near the west side? Walker, comstock, alpine? Looking for car dates preferably. Thanks all.http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/grand-rapids-best-gfe-616-483/424901856434
IrishGuy77
09-17-19, 22:45
So I was browsing a few southern states. I think I should check my vitals after I saw this name. Kandiland! But it's not our Kandi dammit! Still dreaming of her!
IrishGuy77
09-22-19, 10:58
Don't know if she's really in the area, because she's advertising all over Michigan. But her videos on pornhub definitely interesting! Might message her.
Getten Ass
09-22-19, 11:00
Don't know if she's really in the area, because she's advertising all over Michigan. But her videos on pornhub definitely interesting! Might message her.Who is she? Do you have a link or pic?
Mike Yepthatsm
09-22-19, 17:26
Who? Do you have a link?
Don't know if she's really in the area, because she's advertising all over Michigan. But her videos on pornhub definitely interesting! Might message her.
IrishGuy77
09-22-19, 17:46
Who? Do you have a link?http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/all-cocks-wanted-lets-make-som/722691684608
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/all-cocks-wanted-lets-make-som/722691684608Cameron has been around for a many many years, time has not been kind to her. Last reports I remember from some years back were negative, may be different now.
Moonglow913
09-22-19, 22:32
Don't know if she's really in the area, because she's advertising all over Michigan. But her videos on pornhub definitely interesting! Might message her.If that is her, then she has been around for a while and is out of Detroit. Used to have a twitter account that was pretty wild.
IrishGuy77
09-22-19, 23:36
If that is her, then she has been around for a while and is out of Detroit. Used to have a twitter account that was pretty wild.She still has it.
ImThtFcknGuy
09-23-19, 22:16
Cameron has been around for a many many years, time has not been kind to her. Last reports I remember from some years back were negative, may be different now.And she has definitely changed from what she was back in the day. She has gone down hill severally over the last several years. She was once a rockstar in this hobby. Now she is a rock smoker at best. Check out the Vegas board from January of this year and you will get all of the answers you will need. Her pictures are old and her weight gain is quite noticeable.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/massage/caucasian_w/serenity-new-therapists/749595138873
They're all blondes except Kyrahjade, including the new girl, Katie, girl next door from Cali. Looks very young too. The owner must have a thing for blondes or is it us? Like to see how many are natural.
Sure wish the providers would say something ahead of time!
Went to see my regular. Last week and after arriving expecting some DATY before a great full service she asked if it was OK to not have sex! WTF and flo arrived the day before.
I would have waited to see her if I knew!
Cameron has been around for a many many years, time has not been kind to her. Last reports I remember from some years back were negative, may be different now.http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com M /722691684608.
I frequented Cameron 6-8+ years ago many times when she was in Battle Creek and Kalamazoo. She was fairly wild and was a nice experience. My last visit with her wasn't great. She rushed me out of the room in 20 min. She had a small dog in the room that was missing most of its teeth and was in bad shape. Shortly afterwards she moved to St. Louis. Reports weren't great. She popped up in BC and Detroit about a year ago. I wouldn't see her again. She looks like she has been gaining a significant amount of weight.
Stay safe.
HighGuy1979
09-27-19, 15:42
Does anyone have any provider suggestions. I'm looking for a women that could be a regular. Prefer someone older than 35. Not really a BBW kind of guy but a little extra isn't a deal breaker. I'm just north of gr about 10-20 minutes. Got no problems with 420 but don't want a drug user. I know I'm kinda new on here but if you guys got any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. Pm or post on here thanks in advance.
IrishGuy77
09-27-19, 18:58
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com M /722691684608.
I frequented Cameron 6-8+ years ago many times when she was in Battle Creek and Kalamazoo. She was fairly wild and was a nice experience. My last visit with her wasn't great. She rushed me out of the room in 20 min. She had a small dog in the room that was missing most of its teeth and was in bad shape. Shortly afterwards she moved to St. Louis. Reports weren't great. She popped up in BC and Detroit about a year ago. I wouldn't see her again. She looks like she has been gaining a significant amount of weight.
Stay safe.I posted about her last week. Was laughing when I saw she asked if you want to make porn! Watched a few of her movies, of what you can see! Kept dozing off and dreaming of Kandiland!
IrishGuy77
09-29-19, 14:39
You got mail.
ImThtFcknGuy
09-29-19, 22:48
I posted about her last week. Was laughing when I saw she asked if you want to make porn! Watched a few of her movies, of what you can see! Kept dozing off and dreaming of Kandiland!Just like you, I had seen her several years ago when she was in BC and when my work had me in the area. I live in Niles and she never came that way. Anyway, despite the bad reviews before she went on the road, despite the bad reviews in other states, despite hearing that she was getting fat. I decided to go see her yesterday. I even grabbed a hotel room and planned on staying the night.
Set up was ok, and she responded quickly telling me that she remembered me. Whatever. Agreed on time and contribution. Hour later she is at my hotel door. When I opened it, I knew it was a mistake. She has gained almost 75 -100 lbs. She reaked of the new cologne by Bob Marley and age has treated her the way it treated Barbara Bach from the old Dukes of Hazard show.
I simply told her to leave. She got bitchey and threatened to make a scene. I told her to go ahead and do it. She swore that she will black list me.
Avoid at all cost.
IrishGuy77
09-30-19, 16:29
Just like you, I had seen her several years ago when she was in BC and when my work had me in the area. I live in Niles and she never came that way. Anyway, despite the bad reviews before she went on the road, despite the bad reviews in other states, despite hearing that she was getting fat. I decided to go see her yesterday. I even grabbed a hotel room and planned on staying the night.
Set up was ok, and she responded quickly telling me that she remembered me. Whatever. Agreed on time and contribution. Hour later she is at my hotel door. When I opened it, I knew it was a mistake. She has gained almost 75 -100 lbs. She reaked of the new cologne by Bob Marley and age has treated her the way it treated Barbara Bach from the old Dukes of Hazard show.
I simply told her to leave. She got bitchey and threatened to make a scene. I told her to go ahead and do it. She swore that she
Avoid at all cost.https://kalamazoo.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_w/all-cocks-wanted-lets-make-som/288813979691
Thanks for your report. I had a bad feeling about her! If she was real, I would of been on it! But did a little research and it wasn't pretty! Good thing is there are plenty a good ones to see! I'm going to stick to the ones I know! Good luck.
Member #6094
09-30-19, 19:58
I am curious on how many of you BBFS a provider other than BBBJ? To me it seems a bit dangerous for numerous reasons. I have in the past with two of them before they turned into who they are now. I ask because someone I'm looking into in Northern MI asked me to and I thought it was a bit odd I'm going to go see her tomorrow and can fill you in on what takes place.
I am curious on how many of you BBFS a provider other than BBBJ? To me it seems a bit dangerous for numerous reasons. I have in the past with two of them before they turned into who they are now. I ask because someone I'm looking into in Northern MI asked me to and I thought it was a bit odd I'm going to go see her tomorrow and can fill you in on what takes place.I'd love any report or contact info on that one. Northern Mi is like a desert, with very few options and even fewer decent ones.
I am curious on how many of you BBFS a provider other than BBBJ? To me it seems a bit dangerous for numerous reasons. I have in the past with two of them before they turned into who they are now. I ask because someone I'm looking into in Northern MI asked me to and I thought it was a bit odd I'm going to go see her tomorrow and can fill you in on what takes place.I have had a couple northern Michigan gals offer me BBFS a couple years ago. One was a hot blonde, I did her bareback as she claimed to be a cumslut and loved feeling it drip out of her.
I am curious on how many of you BBFS a provider other than BBBJ? To me it seems a bit dangerous for numerous reasons. I have in the past with two of them before they turned into who they are now. I ask because someone I'm looking into in Northern MI asked me to and I thought it was a bit odd I'm going to go see her tomorrow and can fill you in on what takes place.BBFS is definitely not my thing. I've been doing this for almost 25 years and I'm absolutely convinced that the only reason why I never caught a case of something it's because I have never ever done BBFS with a provider. BBBJ is totally fine however.
Is she back to her old ways?
http://playtimewithsynergy.com/
Has anyone seen here recently?
Hi,
Does anyone have a good source for ED pills? How do did you go about getting the pills? Did you see your Dr. First?
Is she back to her old ways?
http://playtimewithsynergy.com/
Has anyone seen here recently?A long ride on the Way Way Back Machine!
Wonder if the dude that bought her those boobies and who she milked for $15-20 K is still above ground?
Hi,
Does anyone have a good source for ED pills? How do did you go about getting the pills? Did you see your Dr. First?I saw my doctor and she referred me to a urologist where I was able to get a script, just told him that it wasnt getting rock hard like a like and boom done.
Hi,
Does anyone have a good source for ED pills? How do did you go about getting the pills? Did you see your Dr. First?I asked my doc about them, he told me I should have no problem with them and gave me some samples. If you can get a RX for them and you plan pays for them take that route. If you can't get them that way I found a link for them on this site, one of the ads along the side. It is an offshore so a foreign currency charge is made on your card, buy the rates for the pills are under a buck. They have worked for me.
Spartan191
10-10-19, 03:57
Hi,
Does anyone have a good source for ED pills? How do did you go about getting the pills? Did you see your Dr. First?If your health plan does not cover ED pills, go and get a prescription from your Dr. And then check with GoldRx.com.
The coupon you get will save you a ton of money off the pharmacy rate.
I use the generic for Cialis and paid less than $80.00 at Meijer for 20 tablets of 20 mg.
Others have reported even better deals.
Have fun and be safe.
Moonglow913
10-10-19, 08:04
Is she back to her old ways?
http://playtimewithsynergy.com/
Has anyone seen here recently?A blast from the past is right! From those pictures she has fared well. If I am not mistaken, I saw her over 20 years ago. I never experienced it but the old boards were full of drama. I always had a great time. It would be interesting to see her again just because of the time warp (LOL).
Charlie441
10-10-19, 11:50
Hi,
Does anyone have a good source for ED pills? How do did you go about getting the pills? Did you see your Dr. First?Used to go online to buy from online sources, usually stemming from India despite being advertised from Canada, etc. Which you can still do.
BUT, the patent expired for both Viagra & Cialis. So you can get them much cheaper here in the US -- without visiting a doctor, but communicating with one ONLINE.
You can just Google "Get generic Cialis online", and you can compare prices, etc. I recommend generic Cialis as one strong pill (20 mg) will last you many days straight, although it usually takes several hours to settle in. YMMV. The generic Viagra is cheaper and hits you quicker, but fades out quick. If you're taking a bit higher dose than needed, it can last you all night. YMMV.
However, the low dose (20 mg) of Viagra is going to cost your around $2/ pill here in the US, and the daily (super low 2. 5 mg) generic Cialis (if you go Daily route) is $8/ day for each pill usually.
You can still go online and search around. I recommend using Bing to search for the out-of-country pharmacies selling non-addictive drugs -- these & antibiotics -- and getting high dose stuff as they can be a bit watered down some. So you can get the high-dose generic Cialis (20 mg) for about $2/ pill. Which for a middle aged guy if he exercised a lot and was put on a great diet with no stress wouldn't really need it 95% of the time -- but he's not in such a situations thus does need something -- would last him about 5-6 days with 1 pill. I would assume that's probably on the level of a 10 mg generic one bought here in the US?
https://med-bb.com/product/176/Generic+Cialis /.
That's just one thru searching, has a secure checkout. I would bing-around though. Less than $1. 50 per 20 mg Cialis pill when buying 60 for $80.
CrissCross3015
10-10-19, 14:34
Does anyone know a provider who will give DATO?
FYI.
Kyra no longer works at.
https://serenity-relaxation.business.site/
Is there a way to see which providers have accounts on here? Thanks.
Is there a way to see which providers have accounts on here? Thanks.Some of them have accounts on www.usaadultclassifieds.nl.
Some of them have accounts on www.usaadultclassifieds.nl.Thanks. I know about the classified ad section. Thought there might be some sort of directory of providers not on there.
Drug free providers. Do they exist. Tired of drug users.
Wolverines
10-12-19, 18:03
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2019/10/11/sex-sting-snares-indiana-man-who-walked-to-wisconsin/3949803002/
Drug free providers. Do they exist. Tired of drug users.I'm tired of them too. I've given up my ATF more than once because of drug use.
The truth is If they're not using when they start, it seems like they end up using eventually or is it that we get to know them better and they're willing to see us while high because they feel more comfortable?
This is why a lot of mongers go to Parlors, if the provider is high hopfully the manager sends them home or fires them so we don't have to deal with her.
There's a few, Kandiland1, MissHunter, Jamin Jamie and Autumn to name a few.
Everyone should ad to this list if they know of any providers that are drug free.
Benjamin99
10-12-19, 20:38
Benz1 do you count weed as a drug now that is legal in Michigan? There are reports of Miss Hunter place smelling like weed. I would add Vivianne to the list, she drinks and smokes but I believe she is drug free. I'm still checking on Jackie in Flint and so far I believe she is drug free as well. Not surprisingly both went to the top of my ATF list. I can't stand drug users, if I see one girl one time and I see signs of drug use, I just don't want to see them again.
Thanks,
Ben.
I'm tired of them too. I've given up my ATF more than once because of drug use.
The truth is If they're not using when they start, it seems like they end up using eventually or is it that we get to know them better and they're willing to see us while high because they feel more comfortable?
This is why a lot of mongers go to Parlors, if the provider is high hopfully the manager sends them home or fires them so we don't have to deal with her.
There's a few, Kandiland1, MissHunter, Jamin Jamie and Autumn to name a few.
Everyone should ad to this list if they know of any providers that are drug free.
RealTree40
10-12-19, 22:50
I'm tired of them too. I've given up my ATF more than once because of drug use.
The truth is If they're not using when they start, it seems like they end up using eventually or is it that we get to know them better and they're willing to see us while high because they feel more comfortable?
This is why a lot of mongers go to Parlors, if the provider is high hopfully the manager sends them home or fires them so we don't have to deal with her.
There's a few, Kandiland1, MissHunter, Jamin Jamie and Autumn to name a few.
Everyone should ad to this list if they know of any providers that are drug free.Jasmin with the exception of hippy lettuce.
SoulJamane
10-12-19, 22:56
I'm tired of them too. I've given up my ATF more than once because of drug use.
The truth is If they're not using when they start, it seems like they end up using eventually or is it that we get to know them better and they're willing to see us while high because they feel more comfortable?
This is why a lot of mongers go to Parlors, if the provider is high hopfully the manager sends them home or fires them so we don't have to deal with her.
There's a few, Kandiland1, MissHunter, Jamin Jamie and Autumn to name a few.
Everyone should ad to this list if they know of any providers that are drug free.Breezi is drug free if you don't count green trees as drugs.
Bronco6566
10-12-19, 23:16
I'm tired of them too. I've given up my ATF more than once because of drug use.
The truth is If they're not using when they start, it seems like they end up using eventually or is it that we get to know them better and they're willing to see us while high because they feel more comfortable?
This is why a lot of mongers go to Parlors, if the provider is high hopfully the manager sends them home or fires them so we don't have to deal with her.
There's a few, Kandiland1, MissHunter, Jamin Jamie and Autumn to name a few.
Everyone should ad to this list if they know of any providers that are drug free.Riley. And pretty sure Kamilia is just happy grass. That was the impression I got when I seen her.
Benjamin99
10-13-19, 06:22
Is Jasmin UTR, can someone PM her digits?
Thanks,
Ben.
Jasmin with the exception of hippy lettuce.
I'm sorry my original post was not clear.
I do not consider weed a drug, never have considered it more than alcohol or nicotine. They are all mood altering substances that are addictive but so is coffee. However I've never seen someone go into treatment for caffeine addiction. The substances are not truly addictive, it's the person who has an addictive personality. If alcohol was addictive then everyone who had a drink would be an alcoholic. Splitting hairs here but I know my shit about addiction.
May favorite saying I've seen posted many times on marques and social media sites.
Please do not judge others who sin differently than you. ( I like to add to it) Now go forth and sin some more.
I never judge, I just move on and get out of their world. Live and let Live is my philosophy.
Reacher2215
10-13-19, 12:58
I'm sorry my original post was not clear.
I do not consider weed a drug, never have considered it more than alcohol or nicotine. They are all mood altering substances that are addictive but so is coffee. However I've never seen someone go into treatment for caffeine addiction. The substances are not truly addictive, it's the person who has an addictive personality. If alcohol was addictive then everyone who had a drink would be an alcoholic. Splitting hairs here but I know my shit about addiction.
May favorite saying I've seen posted many times on marques and social media sites.
Please do not judge others who sin differently than you. ( I like to add to it) Now go forth and sin some more.
I never judge, I just move on and get out of their world. Live and let Live is my philosophy.I agree with that belief about weed as well. I think that I'd just prefer that I don't walk out of appointments smelling like it. I can get rid of that latex scent easily, but weed has always been tricky. And sometimes I go right to work afterwards, on occasion. And that would NOT be a good idea to even let my job think that I partake in marijuana. Cigarette-smoke isn't an issue in the slightest though.
I agree with that belief about weed as well. I think that I'd just prefer that I don't walk out of appointments smelling like it. I can get rid of that latex scent easily, but weed has always been tricky. And sometimes I go right to work afterwards, on occasion. And that would NOT be a good idea to even let my job think that I partake in marijuana. Cigarette-smoke isn't an issue in the slightest though.I don't stay if they're high or drunk. If I arrive and they are intoxicated beyond a buzz, I won't stay N play.
RealTree40
10-13-19, 16:20
Hello gentleman I'm traveling to Grand Rapids tomorrow. Is there any new providers that are must see? Or is it still same ol same ol. Feel free to pm me if I'm missing a gem, I've been reading the reports and it seems like jasmine is still the best thing going.
Thanks in advance and stay safe.
Reacher2215
10-14-19, 03:15
I don't stay if they're high or drunk. If I arrive and they are intoxicated beyond a buzz, I won't stay N play.I've been with providers whose "intoxication state" was questionable, at best. I can spot a tweeker from a mile away, but some of these women are such high-functioning addicts who do their job very well with enthusiasm and we would never know the wiser. Whether it's uppers, downers, a few shots of whiskey, etc, it's their poison. But as long as anything above that is completely out of sight or completely out of mind, I don't care and I'll always report it as such.
OliverTwist501
10-14-19, 18:48
Have we been able to figure one out?
Guitar Man
10-15-19, 06:21
When I click on the links posted by the mongers I no longer go to it. Did USA Sex Guide stop the direct access? Is anyone else experiencing the same?
Have we been able to figure one out?Another monger did it once, added the same last letter to make it a 4 letter name when posting a review. Joy would be Joyy, Mia would be Miaa, etc. If we do it consistently, we can start to establish a database for the short name ladies. Including a link to their ad would also be critical.
When I click on the links posted by the mongers I no longer go to it. Did USA Sex Guide stop the direct access? Is anyone else experiencing the same?You have to allow pop ups, to access links.
MrLimpBiscuit
10-15-19, 08:48
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/why-tease-you-when-ican-please/916053737424
Terrible, service, crackhead, be carefullllll. 220-400 if ya want xtras.
When I click on the links posted by the mongers I no longer go to it. Did USA Sex Guide stop the direct access? Is anyone else experiencing the same?I also found if you rt click on your mouse (using laptop) then click on Open new tab, click on that and it takes you to it.
Another monger did it once, added the same last letter to make it a 4 letter name when posting a review. Joy would be Joyy, Mia would be Miaa, etc. If we do it consistently, we can start to establish a database for the short name ladies. Including a link to their ad would also be critical.Great idea. If they shorten their names even shorter, we can just keep adding another of the same letter.
Benjamin99
10-15-19, 09:01
I never had issues on a mobile phone. But I wish the forum interface would be more mobile friendly.
Ben.
I also found if you rt click on your mouse (using laptop) then click on Open new tab, click on that and it takes you to it.
On A Pedestal
10-15-19, 14:53
If your health plan does not cover ED pills, go and get a prescription from your Dr. And then check with GoldRx.com.
The coupon you get will save you a ton of money off the pharmacy rate.
I use the generic for Cialis and paid less than $80.00 at Meijer for 20 tablets of 20 mg.
Others have reported even better deals.
Have fun and be safe.CAN CONFIRM. Dr wrote prescrip for 100 mg Viagra (told me to cut in half). I pay $29.50 at Meijer for 30 (60 doses) of 50 mg generic Viagra.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/caucasian_e/why-tease-you-when-ican-please/916053737424
Thanks for the info I was going to try her. The pics look good so didnt figure she would be using.
Terrible, service, crackhead, be carefullllll. 220-400 if ya want xtras.Thanks for the info her pics looked really good to me I wouldn't have thought she would be a user. Thanks for saving me a loss of funds.
Youcon45.
Home Grown12
10-17-19, 09:20
Mongers,
Recently saw The Game Changers Movie.
Dives into health of eating, performance and other topics.
Specifically for the fellas with ED or simply want to get harder for longer. 🍆.
ED is a circulation issue and the blue pills assist with blood flow. Eat less meat, less junk food to help lower your cholesterol, blood pressure, lose fat weight. And the circulation would improve in the whole body not just in little man. I started by doing Meatless Mondays. Then it was easy to go meatless on weekends also.
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+game+changers+movie.
Instead of blue pill, the natural amino acids to help with whole body circulation / nitric oxide:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OEPAI4
I have to say there has to be a screw loose in this girls head. I have not seen the best reviews on her but wanted to give her a chance. Her ad says she wants everything straight and to the point. I asked her what her prices were. Took her a full day to respond to me. After she responded I asked if the prices included Greek. The prices she gave me were kind of high. Then she went off on me calling me an a**hole telling me she has great reviews and has plenty of regulars. That wasn't even my question. I would like to hear some info back from mongers who have seen her recently.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/grand-rapids-men-wya-sexy-youn/871690635590
I have to say there has to be a screw loose in this girls head. I have not seen the best reviews on her but wanted to give her a chance. Her ad says she wants everything straight and to the point. I asked her what her prices were. Took her a full day to respond to me. After she responded I asked if the prices included Greek. The prices she gave me were kind of high. Then she went off on me calling me an a**hole telling me she has great reviews and has plenty of regulars. That wasn't even my question. I would like to hear some info back from mongers who have seen her recently.
https://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/female-escorts/exotic/grand-rapids-men-wya-sexy-youn/871690635590The replies that I received were just as whacked. But the replies were in the 3rd person so her handler is an idiot.
The replies that I received were just as whacked. But the replies were in the 3rd person so her handler is an idiot.I reviewed her. She use to go by Asian Jade. Personally I would stay away from her.
Mongers,
Recently saw The Game Changers Movie.
Dives into health of eating, performance and other topics.
Specifically for the fellas with ED or simply want to get harder for longer. 🍆.
ED is a circulation issue and the blue pills assist with blood flow. Eat less meat, less junk food to help lower your cholesterol, blood pressure, lose fat weight. And the circulation would improve in the whole body not just in little man. I started by doing Meatless Mondays. Then it was easy to go meatless on weekends also.
https://www.google.com/search?q=the+game+changers+movie.
Instead of blue pill, the natural amino acids to help with whole body circulation / nitric oxide:
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000OEPAI4As far as supplements go I learned a lot from my high school wrestling coach. Many novices fall into the trap of taking L-Arginine to produce nitric oxide in the blood that supports erection, it is a reason that it is so cheap, because your stomach does not digest it and 80% passes right through you. If you take L-Citruline instead your stomach digests it and your liver turns it into L-Arginine and thus creates the nitric oxide that creates erections, a little more expensive but way more effective.
CAN CONFIRM. Dr wrote prescrip for 100 mg Viagra (told me to cut in half). I pay $29.50 at Meijer for 30 (60 doses) of 50 mg generic Viagra.If you have a prescription for Cialis or Viagra I'm told Benson drugs in Muskegon has the best prices. Confirmed by a pharmacist that works there. She said there's an endless stream of men coming in to get there scrips filled.
Wolverines
10-25-19, 18:20
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In the mean time we have our work around with adding the extra letter to the end of the provider's name (ex. For joy we would post joyy).
Great idea. If they shorten their names even shorter, we can just keep adding another of the same letter.
Another monger did it once, added the same last letter to make it a 4 letter name when posting a review. Joy would be Joyy, Mia would be Miaa, etc. If we do it consistently, we can start to establish a database for the short name ladies. Including a link to their ad would also be critical.
Have we been able to figure one out?
Member #6623
10-28-19, 21:06
Anyone remember a girl named dallas from twosheds? She was a stripper / dancer pm if you do or on her whatever is cool.
Member #6094
11-10-19, 11:03
Any recommendations on Dou's? I took some time off this coming week to go hunting I figure being that I haven't seen any deer I'd go out with another type of BANG.
I have yet to try a duo and was curious if any of these providers are good with each other and top notch hygiene.
Thanks in advance.
IrishGuy77
11-10-19, 15:20
Any recommendations on Dou's? I took some time off this coming week to go hunting I figure being that I haven't seen any deer I'd go out with another type of BANG.
I have yet to try a duo and was curious if any of these providers are good with each other and top notch hygiene.
Thanks in advance.Can't think of any right now but if I do I'll drop ya a pm. It's never been my thing because I don't like how one does oral and one does the rest. But I'm sure there's a few others that know a good duo. Good luck. Stay safe. Irish.
Any recommendations on Dou's? I took some time off this coming week to go hunting I figure being that I haven't seen any deer I'd go out with another type of BANG.
I have yet to try a duo and was curious if any of these providers are good with each other and top notch hygiene.
Thanks in advance.The best duo's are the ones you put together from what I've experienced. Find a two providers you like and get to work on it. It's a lot of legwork but worth it. You get two girls you've already met and presumably like you, so the experience can be pretty darn good. Try Jasmine in GR off Godfrey if you don't have time for setting something up yourself. She has 4 or 5 friends she can call to duo you up. Good luck!
If you have a prescription for Cialis or Viagra I'm told Benson drugs in Muskegon has the best prices. Confirmed by a pharmacist that works there. She said there's an endless stream of men coming in to get there scrips filled.I take an amino called NAC, which really increases nitric oxide production. It may be a cheaper alternative, for some - 600 mg, three times a day to be always ready.
Wolverines
11-17-19, 03:13
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/ts-escorts/caucasian_w/newbie-to-the-scene/149752275951
MidMichGeezer
11-17-19, 08:51
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/ts-escorts/caucasian_w/newbie-to-the-scene/149752275951Hey Wolverines, you're not thinking of switching are ya? Just kidding.
Wolverines
11-18-19, 01:55
Well, if I did it definitely would not be with Uncle Fester. LOL.
Hey Wolverines, you're not thinking of switching are ya? Just kidding.
http://grand-rapids.skipthegames.com/ts-escorts/caucasian_w/newbie-to-the-scene/149752275951
MichiganMan686
11-18-19, 05:28
Well, if I did it definitely would not be with Uncle Fester. LOL.LMFAO. Too funny.
Member #6094
11-19-19, 16:36
So I am on a dating app or two actually trying to find a legit relationship. I got a email the other day from one of our previous providers Vanessa. I had a good laugh and deleted the email. I wasn't about to say hey I know you.
Reacher2215
11-19-19, 17:56
So I am on a dating app or two actually trying to find a legit relationship. I got a email the other day from one of our previous providers Vanessa. I had a good laugh and deleted the email. I wasn't about to say hey I know you.I've noticed several providers with online dating profiles (both current and former) just screwing around with the much needed casual lays on POF / Tinder. I'm glad I always keep my settings on private now, because I have actually seen some of them plenty of times as a client. Almost learned the hard way when one tried to start a serious relationship LOL.
If you have a prescription for Cialis or Viagra I'm told Benson drugs in Muskegon has the best prices. Confirmed by a pharmacist that works there. She said there's an endless stream of men coming in to get there scrips filled.Last week I went to Rite Aid to get the cost of generic Viagra, sildenafil. Was told cash price for 20 tablets of 100 mg was $900, branded Viagra was $1800. Looked online at my Rx insurance website, saw unbelievable low prices so I had my Dr send over a script to Rite Aid. Got 6 tablets of sildenafil 100 mg for $2. 76. Mindwobbling. Must be the prices the insurance companies negotiate may be based on buying power but this difference is unjust for those without Rx coverage.
Mike Yepthatsm
11-28-19, 13:50
It's like that for everything. Diagnostic tests, physician visits, hospital charges etc. A recent ER visit would have cost me over 3000 bucks but after my insurance discount the amount that was actually paid to them was.
Less than half of that.
Last week I went to Rite Aid to get the cost of generic Viagra, sildenafil. Was told cash price for 20 tablets of 100 mg was $900, branded Viagra was $1800. Looked online at my Rx insurance website, saw unbelievable low prices so I had my Dr send over a script to Rite Aid. Got 6 tablets of sildenafil 100 mg for $2. 76. Mindwobbling. Must be the prices the insurance companies negotiate may be based on buying power but this difference is unjust for those without Rx coverage.
It's like that for everything. Diagnostic tests, physician visits, hospital charges etc. A recent ER visit would have cost me over 3000 bucks but after my insurance discount the amount that was actually paid to them was.
Less than half of that.I continue to have good experience buying generics via imports. Just got 100 Viagra for $70. Generic Cialis is available for about the same price. Takes a couple of weeks to get delivery but you can track the shipment's progress and it has never been late.
I continue to have good experience buying generics via imports. Just got 100 Viagra for $70. Generic Cialis is available for about the same price. Takes a couple of weeks to get delivery but you can track the shipment's progress and it has never been late.This is what I use. It really comes out to those prices. Even a urgent Care type clinic will give you a script usually but once you have the prescription, the good rx ap works.
Walgreens no longer takes it though. I use Meijer now.
Last week I went to Rite Aid to get the cost of generic Viagra, sildenafil. Was told cash price for 20 tablets of 100 mg was $900, branded Viagra was $1800. Looked online at my Rx insurance website, saw unbelievable low prices so I had my Dr send over a script to Rite Aid. Got 6 tablets of sildenafil 100 mg for $2. 76. Mindwobbling. Must be the prices the insurance companies negotiate may be based on buying power but this difference is unjust for those without Rx coverage.I just finished writing a paper on this very topic. This is being addressed, but it's going to be a few years before things start to move in a direction that is more equitable for everyone. Righting 50 years of well intentioned health policy will not happen overnight. Just be careful of buying from copycats overseas, many of these drugs are made in less than sanitary conditions under low quality control environments, so contaminants are common and the dosages are not always consistent from batch to batch (and sometimes even from pill to pill! However, governments overseas do negotiate better prices from Big Pharma, so if you get pills in the manufacturer packaging for Viagra, Cialis or any of the others, they should be safe and the real deal. At a real deal!
Good luck!!
OliverTwist501
11-29-19, 18:25
I and family members have lived in other countries and so I have some knowledge of their healthcare systems. In the UK, healthcare is primarily public and in Canada, entirely. This is the case in much of the Commonwealth too, quaintly referred to as "the colonies". Prices are managed by the govt -- standardized. Not so here, hence wildly fluctuating prices. This also impacts drug prices. The US is seen as a golden opportunity for profit by int'l pharma because of the open market. Also, legislation is more restrictive for generics here which helps keep prices ascending. When the FTA and then NAFTA were agreed to, one of the requirements for Canada, for instance, was to change its laws regarding generic drugs. Patent rights were extended for big pharma. As for the quality of drugs from outside the US, it depends on the country. If it is a developed country, their standards could well exceed those here. I know we think that the FDA is somehow the gold standard. That may be wishful thinking in some instances.
I continue to have good experience buying generics via imports. Just got 100 Viagra for $70. Generic Cialis is available for about the same price. Takes a couple of weeks to get delivery but you can track the shipment's progress and it has never been late.Do you care to share a website? Thanks.
Spartan191
11-30-19, 08:14
Do you care to share a website? Thanks.I have used a few of the years. Here is the latest one I used and that was a few years ago.
http://canadianpharmaciesprofmeds.com/
Keep in mind that some of these prescriptions are filled in India and after you get them you will get robocall after robocall asking to refill.
Plus you may wait a few weeks to get the prescription.
My Dr. Wrote me a prescription for 30 each of the Viagara generic Sildenafil 100 mg. She said I could split them and take them a hour before activity. Normal dose is 50 mg. She gave me a Goodrx coupon and it was $28.50 with 3 refills.
I have used generic Ciialis as well. I like the Cialis because it last longer and when on a weekend with so I only need one as opposed to 2-3 Viagra.
I know that some do not want to get their medical Dr involved but I have no problem with that at all. Having them know what I am taking is never a bad thing and I can call them anytime I want to refill. I run to the Meijer drive through Very simple and easy.
Have fun and be safe.
Do you care to share a website? Thanks.All Day Chemist.
Member #6094
12-10-19, 18:08
Seriously? I think I just threw up in my mouth.
https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/white-chocolate-ssbbw-1-248-600-7541-texting-me-gets-aquicker-response/23801097
Seriously? I think I just threw up in my mouth.
https://escortfish.ch/ad/view/white-chocolate-ssbbw-1-248-600-7541-texting-me-gets-aquicker-response/23801097It's Grand Rapids. She'll make a killing and get rave reviews. She'll fit right in with all the other girls that run ads.
If a UTR of several years takes advantages of you, (Benz has warned didn't listen) took money in advance and then ghosted you, would you sell some hot photos of this person? There always a posting on craigslist looking to buy! Curious of the group's response.
If a UTR of several years takes advantages of you, (Benz has warned didn't listen) took money in advance and then ghosted you, would you sell some hot photos of this person? There always a posting on craigslist looking to buy! Curious of the group's response.They would be out there for the whole world to see right away.
If a UTR of several years takes advantages of you, (Benz has warned didn't listen) took money in advance and then ghosted you, would you sell some hot photos of this person? There always a posting on craigslist looking to buy! Curious of the group's response.I suppose you'd have to determine for yourself if the amount of advantage she took of you is worth the potential legal ramifications that could be possible if you were to sell or even post those hot photos anywhere? For me, I take things like that as learning opportunities and try not to make those same mistakes in the future, chalk them up to my own stupidity for allowing it to happen and just move on.
If a UTR of several years takes advantages of you, (Benz has warned didn't listen) took money in advance and then ghosted you, would you sell some hot photos of this person? There always a posting on craigslist looking to buy! Curious of the group's response.That all depends on how much that money you lost is really worth to you. Sometimes it's a small price to pay to learn a lesson about giving too much trust in this hobby. Is this the first time she has done you wrong? I have no idea what your relationship is like with her, but think long and hard before you make an irreversible decision like that.
I suppose you'd have to determine for yourself if the amount of advantage she took of you is worth the potential legal ramifications that could be possible if you were to sell or even post those hot photos anywhere? For me, I take things like that as learning opportunities and try not to make those same mistakes in the future, chalk them up to my own stupidity for allowing it to happen and just move on.It is highly unlikely that a broad selling pussy has more to lose than you do. Fighting with someone who has less to lose than you do is almost always a horrible idea, especially when there are laws to protect her from what you are contemplating. Write it off and move on, this business might seem personal but it is just a business.
If a UTR of several years takes advantages of you, (Benz has warned didn't listen) took money in advance and then ghosted you, would you sell some hot photos of this person? There always a posting on craigslist looking to buy! Curious of the group's response.Let it go and move on. If she knows who you are and the pictures were made public you could be looking at a revenge porn charge. She could also sue you in civil court. I would also be leary of someone on Craigslist looking to buy the pictures. You were warned and didn't listen. No one else to blame but yourself.
Member #6094
12-20-19, 17:09
So lucky me I get a week off work to use up vacation time.
I am looking to find a provider that is attractive, clean / good hygiene, someone who has a pretty open menu and can provide at least a hour. Up to 300 Rose's max.
Any suggestions? Links? Contact info would be greatly appreciated.
So lucky me I get a week off work to use up vacation time.
I am looking to find a provider that is attractive, clean / good hygiene, someone who has a pretty open menu and can provide at least a hour. Up to 300 Rose's max.
Any suggestions? Links? Contact info would be greatly appreciated.Good luck. Based on what most consider a good provider. I wouldn't trust any recommendations. Some how looks no longer matter to most guys on here.
So lucky me I get a week off work to use up vacation time.
I am looking to find a provider that is attractive, clean / good hygiene, someone who has a pretty open menu and can provide at least a hour. Up to 300 Rose's max.
Any suggestions? Links? Contact info would be greatly appreciated.I recommend Jennifer Lovin; I have seen her multiple times and she will not disappoint you.
https://tryst.link/escort/jennifer-lovin
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Seriously? You're calling us out with your second post?
Fuck off
A2
Happyone99
12-25-19, 12:40
Merry Christmas to the administration of this site, to the senior members and the regular participants too. And especially the providers. Thank you all.
MagicHands2
12-25-19, 16:46
Merry Christmas to the administration of this site, to the senior members and the regular participants too. And especially the providers. Thank you all.Well said! Wishing everyone a happy, healthy, rewarding. And most importantly, a safe new year.
All the best, Magichands2.
So after taking some months off the hobby I got bored of going out and hooking up with girls that way. I go on stg to see that tatiana is posting although she told me she was going to rehab, having great experiences with her in the past, I decide she will be my first dream returning to the hobby but things didn't go as plan and I will write a separate post for that. After that didn't work out I dreamt of brandy and I will write a separate post about her too. Any ways happy holidays to everyone.
IrishGuy77
12-31-19, 15:00
Can anyone tell me how 131 is? Thanks.
Stonecoldstan
12-31-19, 15:32
Can anyone tell me how 131 is? Thanks.Roads arent bad if you can drive.
We have discussed recently on-line pharmacies and getting generic ED products. I tried Testmax, an organic product that I saw advertised featuring its acceptance by the Sharktank crew. I had zero luck with it, no surprise since it is not FDA-approved and has not had any clinical trials. The main thing though is it touts a free trial bottle which is 60 pills, pay only shipping, and that is the way the final bill on its web site looked but that was too good to be true. I failed to read the terms and conditions so am out an additional $80+.
The fine print says "We are sure that you will enjoy our TestMax Male Enhancement Products. By ordering a trial you will be sent a 30 day supply and be charged for USPS shipping and handling of $6. 98 and then $89.95 (free shipping and handling) per month after the 14 days (10 Days + 4 Days) shipping trial period. You will be enrolled in the auto-shipment program which sends you a month supply every 30 days and charges the same purchase price of 89.95 (free shipping and handling). " It gives a phone number to cancel but you will first be subjected to a torturous sales promo to get you to buy more.
I have tried some products from international pharmacies with no problems, but watch out for overly hyped non-proven goods.
http://health.ellafavor.com/ED/US/TestMax/
Reacher2215
12-31-19, 17:55
Can anyone tell me how 131 is? Thanks.A couple of friends told me that 131 is drivable. Some areas in town are still a slushy mess, still being cleared out.
IrishGuy77
01-01-20, 00:04
A couple of friends told me that 131 is drivable. Some areas in town are still a slushy mess, still being cleared out.Thanks everyone, it was clean all the way!
Reacher2215
01-01-20, 07:18
Thanks everyone, it was clean all the way!No problem, have a safe New Year, brother 👍.
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01-02-20, 16:24
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How do you more experienced members handle out all? Do you just rent a hotel room? If I come to GR from Lansing and don't want in call, or it's not available, what do you suggest? Just trying to be safe and smart. Thanks.
PrivateParts
01-04-20, 12:36
How do you more experienced members handle out all? Do you just rent a hotel room? If I come to GR from Lansing and don't want in call, or it's not available, what do you suggest? Just trying to be safe and smart. Thanks.Great question. I hope others join the discussion so I can consolidate the advice to the New Member Guide. (if you aren't familiar, find that thread in the Grand Rapids forum under user blogs).
Here are my thoughts: we get too many reports of mongers making a long drive to GR only to get ghosted by whatever eye-candy escort ad they were lured to. So I wouldn't do a long distance trip unless you've made an appointment with a proven, well reviewed provider. But in that case, most proven providers in GR offer incall so might as well save yourself some cash and do her incall.
If you want to make a trip without a sure thing lined up (or just don't feel safe doing incall), I'd wait to get a room until the last minute. Find a place with multiple hotels nearby with vacancies (28th & I-96 is ideal coming from Lansing). Hang out at a bar or something until you've set the appointment. I'd also recommend not doing the cheap, no-tell motels or those with room doors that go outside. That can scare the better escorts off. If you say you are staying at a business or family style hotel it makes her feel safe and more assured you have the cash. I've actually lead with that in my first text: white professional looking for hr outcall at xx business hotel. Escorts are known to skip an appointment if a better option comes along (just like we'd cancel if a better escort becomes available). So make your offer more attractive than another's, especially if you are getting her at a busy time. The other point about nicer hotels: it's safer for you. If someone's going to scam a monger, they'll find an easier target at a cheap motel with no lobby / cameras.
If you are trying to do this on the cheap, then be prepared for disappointment. I'm all about getting the best value, but that means you need to accept the risk of a wasted day if you can't find what you want for your price. Otherwise if your time is more valuable, money talks so offer up a nicer place and / or better rate to get the escort you want. Local mongers might complain about "driving up rates" but this is a free market society and it's about satisfying your desires.
Member #6094
01-04-20, 13:52
Couldn't say it any better myself.
👏.
Great question. I hope others join the discussion so I can consolidate the advice to the New Member Guide. (if you aren't familiar, find that thread in the Grand Rapids forum under user blogs).
Here are my thoughts: we get too many reports of mongers making a long drive to GR only to get ghosted by whatever eye-candy escort ad they were lured to. So I wouldn't do a long distance trip unless you've made an appointment with a proven, well reviewed provider. But in that case, most proven providers in GR offer incall so might as well save yourself some cash and do her incall.
If you want to make a trip without a sure thing lined up (or just don't feel safe doing incall), I'd wait to get a room until the last minute. Find a place with multiple hotels nearby with vacancies (28th & I-96 is ideal coming from Lansing). Hang out at a bar or something until you've set the appointment. I'd also recommend not doing the cheap, no-tell motels or those with room doors that go outside. That can scare the better escorts off. If you say you are staying at a business or family style hotel it makes her feel safe and more assured you have the cash. I've actually lead with that in my first text: white professional looking for hr outcall at xx business hotel. Escorts are known to skip an appointment if a better option comes along (just like we'd cancel if a better escort becomes available). So make your offer more attractive than another's, especially if you are getting her at a busy time. The other point about nicer hotels: it's safer for you. If someone's going to scam a monger, they'll find an easier target at a cheap motel with no lobby / cameras.
If you are trying to do this on the cheap, then be prepared for disappointment. I'm all about getting the best value, but that means you need to accept the risk of a wasted day if you can't find what you want for your price. Otherwise if your time is more valuable, money talks so offer up a nicer place and / or better rate to get the escort you want. Local mongers might complain about "driving up rates" but this is a free market society and it's about satisfying your desires.
Thank you for the feedback and great advice.
How do you more experienced members handle out all? Do you just rent a hotel room? If I come to GR from Lansing and don't want in call, or it's not available, what do you suggest? Just trying to be safe and smart. Thanks.Adding to PrivateParts great tutorial on outcalls.
Make sure the room you rent does not have an adjoining room with pass through doors.
A good professional Provider knows that adjoining rooms are used in LE stings. She might ask at the desk is room 303 adjoining with another?
If yes, she might walk out.
IrishGuy77
01-05-20, 21:30
Better than trying shave or painful waxing! Go to Otto & Grand! Jamie is awesome! Very professional just gets everything nice and smooth! Ladies love it! https://ottogrand.com/.
IrishGuy77
01-05-20, 22:51
Better than trying shave or painful waxing! Go to Otto & Grand! Jamie is awesome! Very professional just gets everything nice and smooth! Ladies love it! https://ottogrand.com/.Sorry guys no extras offered here! Just a professional salon.
Stonecoldstan
01-06-20, 08:20
Sorry guys no extras offered here! Just a professional salon.I love getting sugared like you said way better than shaving.
Better than trying shave or painful waxing! Go to Otto & Grand! Jamie is awesome! Very professional just gets everything nice and smooth! Ladies love it! https://ottogrand.com/.Are you referring to the Sacks & Cracks service?
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