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Is anyone having issues accessing this site with their iPhone? The page won't load for me. It only works when I'm on my home Wi-Fi?
If Verizon is your provider I think they are throttling us because I have gotten lots of reports about not being able to access the site if they are your ISP.
A2AT&T iphone no issues yet!
KatSuno1492
02-11-23, 13:28
On an iPhone and logged in just fine. I'm afraid it might be Verizon?
Is anyone having issues accessing this site with their iPhone? The page won't load for me. It only works when I'm on my home Wi-Fi?
If Verizon is your provider I think they are throttling us because I have gotten lots of reports about not being able to access the site if they are your ISP.
A2I was experiencing this the other day, site wouldn't come up at all, no errors just wouldn't proceed. Android phone with Verizon.
I was experiencing this the other day, site wouldn't come up at all, no errors just wouldn't proceed. Android phone with Verizon.It's been slow and intermittent for the last week. Even on my home Wi-Fi it won't load sometimes.
Jack A Dogov
02-11-23, 16:29
It's been slow and intermittent for the last week. Even on my home Wi-Fi it won't load sometimes.Same here. I only access the site from my home desktop or laptop and it's been slow for me as well. Seems to have gotten better the last couple of days. If it ever won't load at all I check it here.
https://downforeveryoneorjustme.com/
Partimer109
02-11-23, 22:12
It's been slow and intermittent for the last week. Even on my home Wi-Fi it won't load sometimes.Have a samsung phone metro pcs provider so far no issues.
Partimer109
02-11-23, 22:17
It's been slow and intermittent for the last week. Even on my home Wi-Fi it won't load sometimes.Check if browser is up to date.
Check if browser is up to date.I only access the site from my phone and it's up to date.
Partimer109
02-12-23, 18:53
I only access the site from my phone and it's up to date.Google " Run a real-time website status check to see if usasexguide. Nl is down " choose a site checker to see if its your end or their end that has issues.
Google " Run a real-time website status check to see if usasexguide. Nl is down " choose a site checker to see if its your end or their end that has issues.It is verizon cellular
If I am on cellular, not accessible. If I switch to wifi it works. Go back to cellular and can't get here.
Have an iphone. Friend has android,. He has verizon and same issue
Partimer109
02-13-23, 01:18
It is verizon cellular
If I am on cellular, not accessible. If I switch to wifi it works. Go back to cellular and can't get here.
Have an iphone. Friend has android,. He has verizon and same issue2 more suggestions.
https://www.verizon.com/support/knowledge-base-216238/
It is verizon cellular
If I am on cellular, not accessible. If I switch to wifi it works. Go back to cellular and can't get here.
Have an iphone. Friend has android,. He has verizon and same issueSounds is Correct! It is Verizon Wireless who is blocking this Site on their Service. Verizon FIOS doesn't block it. Seems strange, but Verizon Wireless and Verizon operate as 2 separate entities. I had to transfer my Wireless Service to AT&T to access this Website again.
Partimer109
02-13-23, 01:40
It is verizon cellular
If I am on cellular, not accessible. If I switch to wifi it works. Go back to cellular and can't get here.
Have an iphone. Friend has android,. He has verizon and same issue"https" is secure "http" is not secure this site is http not secure you have to add this site to browser settings as a trusted site.
Type to google search " is Verizon blocking some sites " one of those answers should resolve it.
I remember earlier this year my google search engine displayed that this site is not secure and asked if I wanted to continue or go back to safety I chose continue, pretty much I told google that I trust this site might have to check cookies also, the bar at top where words are typed in, move pointer to it look for " view site information " match cell settings to WiFi settings.
Hope you find solution if all fails call Verizon support.
Went for a drink or two last weekend and saw some real nice girls. Amber and a black girl stood out.
Anyone have any scoop or action from there?
KatSuno1492
02-13-23, 19:01
2 more suggestions.
https://www.verizon.com/support/knowledge-base-216238/Unfortunately, those require Smart Family, a $5/ mo service. I want to know how to prevent them from blocking it on my phone at all; I don't want to give them any more money to remove a block they arbitrarily put on.
Hmmm I just realized my NordVPN account has a mobile app. Just tested that and I can access this site over Verizon wireless through the VPN.
ShabuShabu
02-14-23, 09:44
Verizon on my phone doesn't work. But, I have Verizon Fios at home and it works. Even when I'm outside using public Wi-Fi, it still doesn't work. And, no it's not the porn blocker. I can access porn sites on the public network, except this forum. Weird.I've noticed recent issues from cell (droid), and using VPN fixes it. Seems like network issue with the cell network.
AT&T iphone no issues yet!Happens to me all the time too. You click on it and it does nothing.
Member #6453
02-19-23, 16:55
I have an enlarged prostrate, no cancer, but they've been watching it for over a year having me take Tamsulosin which has reduced the size enough that I'm not urinating every half hour but not enough to be rid of symptoms all together. One of the side effects is that I barely ejaculate although I do still have a very good orgasm, I have zero issues getting erections, my question is this, my Doctor wants me to have a Enucleation of the prostrate surgery where they leave the nucleus of the prostrate and cut away, remove the rest. My #1 concern is not being able to get erections after which they say is a small risk. Has anyone had this procedure and can you speak to it about post surgery sexual function? I don't trust Doctors in general, I feel like they don't really care if I can get an erection or not after. I know that I could post this question on some medical board but I have been on this board for well over 10 years and trust my brothers on here.
Thanks,
AMP.My in-law had this surgery. No amount of viagra will work for him. He is in his early 70's, and sex is just a fond memory. IMO, if and when it becomes necessary (for example, you need a catheter), then you should go for it.
Fuck I'm getting sick of this shit!
Even low end girls want one here and there.
I don't generally wade into the high end world but I find myself with some disposable cash and thought I'd see what that end looks like. I'm trying to be careful because the last thing I want is to get ripped off in the 400 range.
So I found a girl I'd like to see, 400. She's not a rob, totally legit but wants 100 deposit. Told her I couldn't do a deposit because of the wife seeing the bank account, etc. Besides I don't like deposits on principle, but I didn't tell her that. She said I could make an appointment without one but she wouldn't hold my appointment spot. So if my 2 pm on March x wasn't guaranteed with the 100 deposit, she could give it to someone else and bump me at the last minute.
Fuck that!
Jesus. Used to call Jill at RSG and make a 1 pm in Waltham with Mia, or anyone else jill had just on a phone call. I'd be in the parking lot at 12:50, ready to. Get 1 hour of solid GFE, no muss no fuss.
I don't get this deposit thing. I know the deposit chicks on stg are mostly ROBS, but these high end girls want them. Are there thst many guys making appointments a d blowing them off?
Fuck I'm getting sick of this shit!
Even low end girls want one here and there.
I don't generally wade into the high end world but I find myself with some disposable cash and thought I'd see what that end looks like. I'm trying to be careful because the last thing I want is to get ripped off in the 400 range.
So I found a girl I'd like to see, 400. She's not a rob, totally legit but wants 100 deposit. Told her I couldn't do a deposit because of the wife seeing the bank account, etc. Besides I don't like deposits on principle, but I didn't tell her that. She said I could make an appointment without one but she wouldn't hold my appointment spot. So if my 2 pm on March x wasn't guaranteed with the 100 deposit, she could give it to someone else and bump me at the last minute.
Fuck that!
Jesus. Used to call Jill at RSG and make a 1 pm in Waltham with Mia, or anyone else jill had just on a phone call. I'd be in the parking lot at 12:50, ready to. Get 1 hour of solid GFE, no muss no fuss.
I don't get this deposit thing. I know the deposit chicks on stg are mostly ROBS, but these high end girls want them. Are there thst many guys making appointments a d blowing them off?Great post. It really brought me back to RSG, Mia, Stacy, all of them, great service. Jill and co. Really cared about customer service. They were super punctual and would even recommend girls if you were a repeat. Sad to think those days will not return. I get the deposit practice and don't get it at the same time. I've been burned more than once, so I simply say, "No". Sometimes they reply with, why not. ? Or you can trust me, I'm different. It does give them an unfair upper hand of not delivering. Their reasoning just doesn't work for me, bec. I too think to myself, why would a guy who reached out to you for sex with a hottie just not show?? But I see girls who are on the level that say it happens often. Probably more of a commentary on cynicism and lack civility today. I'm 64. Get in the habit of refusing to send deposits. Then it will be your norm.
KingOfFours
02-23-23, 11:54
Great post. It really brought me back to RSG, Mia, Stacy, all of them, great service. Jill and co. Really cared about customer service. They were super punctual and would even recommend girls if you were a repeat. Sad to think those days will not return. I get the deposit practice and don't get it at the same time. I've been burned more than once, so I simply say, "No". Sometimes they reply with, why not. ? Or you can trust me, I'm different. It does give them an unfair upper hand of not delivering. Their reasoning just doesn't work for me, bec. I too think to myself, why would a guy who reached out to you for sex with a hottie just not show?? But I see girls who are on the level that say it happens often. Probably more of a commentary on cynicism and lack civility today. I'm 64. Get in the habit of refusing to send deposits. Then it will be your norm.I rarely comment on these "deposit" threads, but I'm even older than you, Corrado, and unlike a lot of braindead elderly politicians, I still remember those olden, golden days of whoring. But I just had to chime in with my agreement, this time, particularly your last statement, "Get in the habit of refusing to send deposits"! Indeed, the ONLY reason these scammers are even ABLE to scam, is that there are scamees to scam!
So, in the immortal words of the late wife of a well known late politician from yesteryear, in a different context, "JUST SAY NO!" As I've said many times, the only deposits I've EVER made for a hoe, were into either a mouth, an ass, or a pussy!
By the way--I hate to admit this, but I was NOT able to get bare cock into Jill's Mia. Even though I tried like hell! And based on Intel, I'm probably the only one who she refused MY kind of deposit-- into her kunt, that is. So I had to settle for her gullet! But damn, that must have been at least 20 years ago!
By the way--I hate to admit this, but I was NOT able to get bare cock into Jill's Mia. Even though I tried like hell! And based on Intel, I'm probably the only one who she refused MY kind of deposit-- into her kunt, that is. So I had to settle for her gullet! But damn, that must have been at least 20 years ago!I never inseminated Mia although I saw her a few dozen times!
I did inseminate half of her girls though. They'd always tell me. " Don't tell Jill I let you go raw".
KingOfFours
02-23-23, 14:36
I never inseminated Mia although I saw her a few dozen times!
I did inseminate half of her girls though. They'd always tell me. " Don't tell Jill I let you go raw".Actually, I'm not sure I ever got any of Jill's girls raw, I don't recall? One whom I do recall at RSG, though, went by Patty, I believe, a dainty, dark-haired MILF who could vibrate her firm but soft all-natural C cup tits on a cock, in such a manner that felt almost as good as inseminating a pussy raw! It was indeed the most unique Russian style titty-sex I ever had, and when she lubed up those boobies with saliva, it was totally impossible for me not to explode all over those magnificent mammaries! Has anyone ever found any udders--er--I mean others, with Russian skills like that? She was indeed one of a kind--I never found any before or since with a titty-talent like that!
Actually, I'm not sure I ever got any of Jill's girls raw, I don't recall? One whom I do recall at RSG, though, went by Patty, I believe, a dainty, dark-haired MILF who could vibrate her firm but soft all-natural C cup tits on a cock, in such a manner that felt almost as good as inseminating a pussy raw! It was indeed the most unique Russian style titty-sex I ever had, and when she lubed up those boobies with saliva, it was totally impossible for me not to explode all over those magnificent mammaries! Has anyone ever found any udders--er--I mean others, with Russian skills like that? She was indeed one of a kind--I never found any before or since with a titty-talent like that!I did penny bb all the time, Janice, Brandy, Rayette, several of the travel girls she had too.
JoeMuckInFutch
02-24-23, 18:44
I have an enlarged prostrate, no cancer, but they've been watching it for over a year having me take Tamsulosin which has reduced the size enough that I'm not urinating every half hour but not enough to be rid of symptoms all together. One of the side effects is that I barely ejaculate although I do still have a very good orgasm, I have zero issues getting erections, my question is this, my Doctor wants me to have a Enucleation of the prostrate surgery where they leave the nucleus of the prostrate and cut away, remove the rest. My #1 concern is not being able to get erections after which they say is a small risk. Has anyone had this procedure and can you speak to it about post surgery sexual function? I don't trust Doctors in general, I feel like they don't really care if I can get an erection or not after. I know that I could post this question on some medical board but I have been on this board for well over 10 years and trust my brothers on here.
Thanks,
AMP.They said it was huge but no cancer. Taking two meds, newer one supposed to shrink it and lower PSA. I did not cum much in recent years, but now it is a dribble at best. Orgasm can be mild to wild and when wild it is as intense as a teenager. I am now finding a good HJ or tit-job is better than pussy for intensity. My doc says he wants to recheck and then try other meds, no discussion of surgery. I had a buddy who had to have the surgery for cancer in his 50's and has to inject himself below his balls to get it up. I was hard as a rock the other day fucking an unattractive GILF (see Fitchburg section) and had a mild orgasm and filled the bag with about a drop and that was after over a week of buildup. Sucks getting old. Agree I do not want to risk not being able to get it up, so I can appreciate the hesitancy about surgery. BTW, I ALWAYS get a second opinion from doctors from a distant place. If my primary urologist is say in Fitchburg, I'd go the BI or MGH or wherever in Boston to get a second opinion on cancer or surgery or whatever. I always remind myself that the guy at the bottom of his med school class is still called Doctor.
I've had to cut way back over the last couple of years, due to the pandemic and my wife's retirement. So I'm looking for alternatives. I've been able to buy custom videos from two women for a while but that well has gone dry. I find I still need to feed the bad habit at some level. Does anyone know of a reliable source for custom videos or live chat sessions? If this turns into a longer conversation I may create a new topic.
I've had to cut way back over the last couple of years, due to the pandemic and my wife's retirement. So I'm looking for alternatives. I've been able to buy custom videos from two women for a while but that well has gone dry. I find I still need to feed the bad habit at some level. Does anyone know of a reliable source for custom videos or live chat sessions? If this turns into a longer conversation I may create a new topic.chaturbate.com for chat.
Can get some good shows for free.
Option to pay for one on one attention and chat too
Some women offer custom videos but I have no idea how reliable they are since never bothered
chaturbate.com for chat.
Can get some good shows for free.
Option to pay for one on one attention and chat too
Some women offer custom videos but I have no idea how reliable they are since never botheredSpeaking of CB, there are some absolutely stunning beauties on the site. By the way, jennycutie is streaming right now. The girl is so pretty, she seems unreal.
Speaking of CB, there are some absolutely stunning beauties on the site. By the way, jennycutie is streaming right now. The girl is so pretty, she seems unreal.I know them Russian women man. Can't match'them LOL.
Partimer109
03-12-23, 07:50
chaturbate.com for chat.
Can get some good shows for free.
Option to pay for one on one attention and chat too
Some women offer custom videos but I have no idea how reliable they are since never botheredAlso check myfreecams.
GoSailor41
03-12-23, 08:36
Speaking of CB, there are some absolutely stunning beauties on the site. By the way, jennycutie is streaming right now. The girl is so pretty, she seems unreal.I also use chaturbate. Lots of girls there. Can get pricey if you want to do a private chat with a real hottie, but each model sets their own prices for 1 on 1 chat / show. And it may take some time to find the right girl for you but I've always had fun on there.
She is hands down the best escort provider I've ever had. My only complaint is her timing is a little tough to deal with.
Sometimes, if she says she'll be ready in 10 minutes you can easily converted that into real time 2 or 3 hrs. But she says she is working on improving herself on that front and I can confirm that she has. Great attitude and super sweet. She's always clean and smells great. I never hesitate to go DATY, rimming or suck on her toes. Her ass is to die for and I love sucking on her cute nipples. Treat her well guys and you'll be rewarded with the best experience of your life.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/boston/female-escorts/caucasian_e/new-number-new-hair-lets-get-t/291167267751
Mattis1775
03-12-23, 13:36
I also use chaturbate. Lots of girls there. Can get pricey if you want to do a private chat with a real hottie, but each model sets their own prices for 1 on 1 chat / show. And it may take some time to find the right girl for you but I've always had fun on there.Wary on the live chats. Took a peek at some sites out of curiosity and $1 for one Token. For a five minute quick strip is 20 Tokens, others like fingering, full-nude, etc. Are more. Not worth it for me. But, on the chat, people are dropping hundreds of Tokens by the minute. Do we have that many guys that pay these hags that kind of money? No wonder these pigs stay home. And, with the paid live chats, who's to say that she disconnects you on purpose? Are you going to complain to technical support? LOL. Same shit with LC and STG with FaceTime shows. Oops, lost connection.
Wary on the live chats. Took a peek at some sites out of curiosity and $1 for one Token. For a five minute quick strip is 20 Tokens, others like fingering, full-nude, etc. Are more. Not worth it for me. But, on the chat, people are dropping hundreds of Tokens by the minute. Do we have that many guys that pay these hags that kind of money? No wonder these pigs stay home. And, with the paid live chats, who's to say that she disconnects you on purpose? Are you going to complain to technical support? LOL. Same shit with LC and STG with FaceTime shows. Oops, lost connection.On CB, it's $0. 08 per one token. Jack and Jill are streaming right now. It's going to be a 4-way ticket show: Jack will fuck 3 women. Jack is the most followed pornstar on CB. He is a fuck monster.
Partimer109
03-13-23, 17:58
Posting this partly vent but also as reminder that most often it's not the girl.
Despite all the smiley faces and kissy faces, I knew it was her fucking pimp.
And if you remember her threatening text, I posted last month, I am 100% confident it's the same guy.
In this case, she was worth the wait and just a precious angel. She is super nice and super good and seriously hoping she makes good. I'm leaving her pen this weekend and she said she plans.The laws have changed, LE doesn't have to tell you that they are LE anymore. FYI.
Anyone know anything about these?
Member #6423
03-14-23, 18:04
The laws have changed, LE doesn't have to tell you that they are LE anymore. FYI.That's right, more details here:
https://www.bradbaileylaw.com/legal-blog/2019/april/do-the-police-have-to-identify-themselves-when-y/
Member #6449
03-27-23, 18:27
Looking to take a weekend trip. What are good US cities for mongering?
Looking to take a weekend trip. What are good US cities for mongering?NYC isn't too far and has amazing picks.
Bastardale
03-31-23, 18:59
I started using a VPN to be a little more cautious in my mongering life. I got a good deal on Surf Shark and it's pretty good for most things. However, I'm blocked from viewing Skip the Games (yes I know it's a trash site, but there are some good ads on there). Has anyone had any luck getting a VPN to work with Skip the Games? I've tried connecting from different locations, but nothing seems to work. Thank you! BA.
I started using a VPN to be a little more cautious in my mongering life. I got a good deal on Surf Shark and it's pretty good for most things. However, I'm blocked from viewing Skip the Games (yes I know it's a trash site, but there are some good ads on there). Has anyone had any luck getting a VPN to work with Skip the Games? I've tried connecting from different locations, but nothing seems to work. Thank you! BA.Right now most people seem to say mullvad is the vpn to go with if you want zero records kept of your internet traffic. I haven't used it myself so can't say anything about it form personal experience or if it works on STG. I think it's $5 a month.
JClearMan1
04-01-23, 20:56
Do yourselves a favor: clear out old messages that are filling up your inbox. It's stupid to send a message asking a question and the person can't reply because your inbox is full.
Also, this site sucks.
Member #6453
04-01-23, 23:15
That's right, more details here:
https://www.bradbaileylaw.com/legal-blog/2019/april/do-the-police-have-to-identify-themselves-when-y/Law enforcement NEVER had to tell you if they were LE. Otherwise, there would be no undercover police. And in some states, the police can even have sex with a prostitute before an arrest, and it is not considered to be entrapment (this is not true in Massachusetts, but is apparently true in Hawaii, Alaska and Pennsylvania).
Law enforcement NEVER had to tell you if they were LE. Otherwise, there would be no undercover police. And in some states, the police can even have sex with a prostitute before an arrest, and it is not considered to be entrapment (this is not true in Massachusetts, but is apparently true in Hawaii, Alaska and Pennsylvania).Aha! Now I know what I'm going to do once I move to Hawaii!
TallBlkMan
04-02-23, 18:19
Right now most people seem to say mullvad is the vpn to go with if you want zero records kept of your internet traffic. I haven't used it myself so can't say anything about it form personal experience or if it works on STG. I think it's $5 a month.I can vouch for MV, I used it for years when I was browsing different darkweb sites, tor, and Anon sites. Though I was WAY more paranoid than I am now and purchased a money card, then transferred the amount to 4 different cards in several states before using the final one to purchase the service like 5 states away from my home state at the time. Never got even a hint of Feds or anything during the time I used it.
TBM.
ThizzleHats
04-10-23, 19:22
Something seems fucky I've been trying to post to the Escorts forum but when I hit "Upload Report" nothing happens.
Something seems fucky I've been trying to post to the Escorts forum but when I hit "Upload Report" nothing happens.Having same issues with posting anywhere. I was using TOR on a Mac. Switched to safari for this.
The laws have changed, LE doesn't have to tell you that they are LE anymore. FYI.Do you really think they ever had to tell you they were? It's my stupid test. If a girl asks if I am a coo, she is too stupid for me to bother seeing.
They said it was huge but no cancer. Taking two meds, newer one supposed to shrink it and lower PSA. I did not cum much in recent years, but now it is a dribble at best. Orgasm can be mild to wild and when wild it is as intense as a teenager. I am now finding a good HJ or tit-job is better than pussy for intensity. My doc says he wants to recheck and then try other meds, no discussion of surgery. I had a buddy who had to have the surgery for cancer in his 50's and has to inject himself below his balls to get it up. I was hard as a rock the other day fucking an unattractive GILF (see Fitchburg section) and had a mild orgasm and filled the bag with about a drop and that was after over a week of buildup. Sucks getting old. Agree I do not want to risk not being able to get it up, so I can appreciate the hesitancy about surgery. BTW, I ALWAYS get a second opinion from doctors from a distant place. If my primary urologist is say in Fitchburg, I'd go the BI or MGH or wherever in Boston to get a second opinion on cancer or surgery or whatever. I always remind myself that the guy at the bottom of his med school class is still called Doctor.Was in Waltham a while ago with a very hot, large breasted South American. She wanted me to come in her mouth. (How often does that happen?) I'm 65+ and I could barely muster-up a drop. No prostate issue, just F-ing old age. I'm seeing urologist next week.
Wish I could jump in the ol' time machine and go back twenty years. Then, women complained that I came to much! ("You need diapers!)
Regardless: I think it's healthy to blast-out the prostate frequently to prevent infection, etc.
Partimer109
04-12-23, 23:39
Do you really think they ever had to tell you they were? It's my stupid test. If a girl asks if I am a coo, she is too stupid for me to bother seeing.Let me clarify because some people need it to be spelled out, before the laws changed if you asked an undercover LE if they were LE they could not lie otherwise entrapment now if you ask they don't have to tell you.
Member #6638
04-13-23, 22:03
Can an admin please delete my account and all my posts. Thanks.
SecretSquirell
04-14-23, 00:51
Can an admin please delete my account and all my posts. Thanks.http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/sendmessage.php
Let me clarify because some people need it to be spelled out, before the laws changed if you asked an undercover LE if they were LE they could not lie otherwise entrapment now if you ask they don't have to tell you.That was never true. Please cite the law that changed and that isn't the definition of entrapment.
I mean seriously think about that for a minute and how it would work for undercover work.
Partimer109
04-14-23, 17:58
That was never true. Please cite the law that changed and that isn't the definition of entrapment.
I mean seriously think about that for a minute and how it would work for undercover work.https://www.bradbaileylaw.com/legal-blog/2019/april/do-the-police-have-to-identify-themselves-when-y/
https://www.bradbaileylaw.com/legal-blog/2019/april/do-the-police-have-to-identify-themselves-when-y/There is nothing there that says a law changed. The law has always been the same, of course they don't have to tell you the truth and never have.
Trailman44
04-16-23, 13:30
https://www.masslive.com/police-fire/2023/04/7-people-arrested-after-prostitution-sting-at-burlington-hotel.html
Hope none of you were swept up in this. I believe I may have actually texted the ad but she was pushy for meeting on the same day and it was a newer ad. My spider senses were going off. Guess it is safer avoiding Burlington. Stay safe.
https://www.masslive.com/police-fire/2023/04/7-people-arrested-after-prostitution-sting-at-burlington-hotel.html
Hope none of you were swept up in this. I believe I may have actually texted the ad but she was pushy for meeting on the same day and it was a newer ad. My spider senses were going off. Guess it is safer avoiding Burlington. Stay safe.That sucks so effing much! I'm telling you I'm ready for the reverse immigration: https://youtu.be/t6gcxNFc1I0?t=71.
Trailman do you remember what the ad looked like / said?
Also, anyone knows site they were talking about or do you think it's a typo? "An officer posted advertisements on websites that are known for being havens for ads offering sex for FREE? LOL.
ArchersTarget
04-16-23, 18:32
https://www.masslive.com/police-fire/2023/04/7-people-arrested-after-prostitution-sting-at-burlington-hotel.html
Hope none of you were swept up in this. I believe I may have actually texted the ad but she was pushy for meeting on the same day and it was a newer ad. My spider senses were going off. Guess it is safer avoiding Burlington. Stay safe.Who would fall for an ad that says free sex?
Member #6450
04-16-23, 18:36
Who would fall for an ad that says free sex?Apparently those dummies who got busted. I noticed that too but I think it was worded incorrectly in the article. I think they meant to say the website used is free to post ads.
Trailman44
04-16-23, 18:39
Who would fall for an ad that says free sex?I didn't. The article mistakes sex for a fee as free sex.
Mattis1775
04-16-23, 19:13
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Before you say anything, yes, it was.
A2
Who would fall for an ad that says free sex?Well if the sex was free, it would not be prostitution.
Well if the sex was free, it would not be prostitution.My thoughts exactly.
In Woburn. Earlier a couple hrs ago, some shit was going down there. A bunch of LE, heavy Police presence. And Swat was even there too. Some dude was brought out on a stretcher. Wow crazy Scene there. People posted about it here in Woburn.
JohnDick75
04-19-23, 22:30
In Woburn. Earlier a couple hrs ago, some shit was going down there. A bunch of LE, heavy Police presence. And Swat was even there too. Some dude was brought out on a stretcher. Wow crazy Scene there. People posted about it here in Woburn.Was it a raid.
Didn't see it on the News. But it could be on there by now or will be. Real soon at some point. I copied and pasted what I came across. There was no link to share so far. It was from a Private FB Group. Someone said in a comment that the suspect was taken out on a stretcher.
"Something is going down at the red roof Inn. SWAT and about 30 police cars just rolled up.
Update: some swap members appeared in the window right above their vehicle, which tells me they breached the room. The guys on the ground seemed a little bit less tense after that. ".
Do the working girls we see, write about and chat about and review on this site have there own sites that they review us on?
If they do what are the names of those sites
Thanks
ThizzleHats
04-22-23, 17:46
Do the working girls we see, write about and chat about and review on this site have there own sites that they review us on?
If they do what are the names of those sites
ThanksI've was with one Brazilian one girl who kind of alluded that there is but I wasn't able to get any more information out of her about it.
Do the working girls we see, write about and chat about and review on this site have there own sites that they review us on?
If they do what are the names of those sites
ThanksSupposedly there is a blacklist site where girls can post numbers of guys to avoid. No idea what it is.
Supposedly there is a blacklist site where girls can post numbers of guys to avoid. No idea what it is.I think it's called Mr. Number or something. Either a site or an app.
LongDongTV
04-24-23, 09:37
I think it's called Mr. Number or something. Either a site or an app.Yeah it's Mr Number and it's an app. I have it. There are other ones but I don't recall the names.
Ho Hunter 328
04-24-23, 21:53
Do the working girls we see, write about and chat about and review on this site have there own sites that they review us on?
If they do what are the names of those sites
Thanks
Supposedly there is a blacklist site where girls can post numbers of guys to avoid. No idea what it is.There are several, and they're careful about not letting guys infiltrate them, which is why usually only the higher end girls are in them. I know P411 has a section for girls to make such reports (as well as leave ratings for guys they've seen that are members that only other girls can see). TER, and RS2k do as well. There are likely others that I don't know about, but those three are probably the most well known.
I know some girls may use Mr Number in a limited capacity for those purposes, but that isn't really its primary function. It's probably mostly lower end girls using it, and they're just as likely to make false reports just to try to eliminate competition.
Stay safe, and happy hunting.
Hello Gents,
Anyone visited Charlie?
Love to hear how it went!
https://tryst.link/escort/charlie_sin
G.
Mattis1775
05-13-23, 10:54
Hello Gents,
Anyone visited Charlie?
Love to hear how it went!
https://tryst.link/escort/charlie_sin
G.This Ho looks like Yoko Ono. She requires a deposit for gift card. No thanks.
This Ho looks like Yoko Ono. She requires a deposit for gift card. No thanks.$700 / Hour. Nope.
Mattis1775
05-13-23, 11:38
https://skipthegames.com/posts/boston/female-escorts/marilyn-/062397599795
This Ho's been flooding STG. Nothing in the Dedham / Norwood area besides the same Asian agency, which BTW is never there. Has anyone seen her?
I miss the old days on BP there was a number that had a new Spanish girl every week real pics and 90% of them were good looking and young I believe it was 60 qv for over a year straight I seen them and they would text the pics and bring them right over. Now every thing is overpriced, junkies, scams, or just fake pics.
ThizzleHats
05-27-23, 14:54
https://thecriminallawyer.******.com/post/19810672629/12-i-was-entrapped
Thoughts on going into a hotel during the day? Does it look weird or do you not care?
LongDongTV
05-29-23, 18:34
Thoughts on going into a hotel during the day? Does it look weird or do you not care?I usually go during the day. I have no problem with it.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/boston/female-escorts/marilyn-/062397599795
This Ho's been flooding STG. Nothing in the Dedham / Norwood area besides the same Asian agency, which BTW is never there. Has anyone seen her?Haven't seen her, but she has mixed reviews. She used to post as Clean, White and Safe.
From what I remember she is real, big tits but saggy, mediocre service. She quoted me $200 which is more than I wanted to spend on her. But as you said, this area is dry as a bone right now.
**** EDIT **** She posted as Bright, White and Clean, sorry for that
Thoughts on going into a hotel during the day? Does it look weird or do you not care?They always ask you to text from the parking lot, then they text you back the room #, I walk in like I own the place, even if I've never been there, make my way to the elevator and walk right in, same with leaving. I don't even look over at the desk or make any eye contact, if there is a maid or maids on the floor I'm going to, I greet them and keep going.
AMP.
Max Walker86
06-03-23, 22:52
There was a bangbros ad with a thick asian girl shaking her big boobs by a pool I was wondering who she was? That girls name is suki sin.
Can type suki sin bang bros ad on google, what a babe. I actually seen a busty girl like that at smilers in ri my jaw dropped.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/boston/female-escorts/marilyn-/062397599795
This Ho's been flooding STG. Nothing in the Dedham / Norwood area besides the same Asian agency, which BTW is never there. Has anyone seen her?I've seen her a year ago. Long and short the pics are her. Those tits are huge and she creamy white skin.
Everything is covered. No kissing or Daty.
Service was lacking. HJ / CBJ. On to CFS only allowed doggy or mish. No pounding to get those tits floppy or CG on top for sucking those mommy milkers.
In summary poor quality and service with an expensive price but a beautiful young girl if a little overweight.
IMO it's worth the price point especially for gentlemen like is that expect more GFE.
ThizzleHats
06-17-23, 00:08
I've seen her a year ago. Long and short the pics are her. Those tits are huge and she creamy white skin.
Everything is covered. No kissing or Daty.
Service was lacking. HJ / CBJ. On to CFS only allowed doggy or mish. No pounding to get those tits floppy or CG on top for sucking those mommy milkers.
In summary poor quality and service with an expensive price but a beautiful young girl if a little overweight.
IMO it's worth the price point especially for gentlemen like is that expect more GFE.Good review, but you say "worth the price point" but leave off the all important price point.
Guys, post the fucking damage if you're going to post anything. So many posts I see leaving that off. Bottom line up front.
Good review, but you say "worth the price point" but leave off the all important price point.
Guys, post the fucking damage if you're going to post anything. So many posts I see leaving that off. Bottom line up front.$$ hhr / $$$ hr.
ThizzleHats
06-17-23, 13:37
$$ hhr / $$$ hr.Too bad it sounds like she gives poor service. Looks like some nice floppy tits. Could be cute but damn that first picture on STG has so many filters it looks like a cartoon.
Mattis1775
06-20-23, 16:10
https://www.xnxx.com/video-k7cx50d/a_girl_s_guide_to_21st_century_sex_9bt.org_4
Interesting show.
They are having a bad glitch! Where you get charged double, from when you do a purchase / transaction. It happened to me earlier this past day, my card randomly updated. It had basically doubled a purchase from the other day. There's News articles about this too, from this past day. So beware Everyone, I just wanted to look out for ya's. Hopefully Locking the card helps!? But it may not, best thing to do is just take your funds off of it.
In which most outcall ladies want too much. But she flaked on me the last time she was in this area a while back. Even when it came to the deposit, she had flaked. LOL and other time's in the past, I tried to get a hold of her. To no Avail. But this last time, I went along with her wanting a $20 deposit, to come see me. Even though she was next Town over, Burlington, she had said. She flat out never replied anymore, even though I was *supposedly* willingly to send the 20. Haha, glad I didn't. A lot of incall / outcall escorts will be legit on the Incall aspect of it. But then ask for a deposit for an out. And it's easy money for them to just collect the deposits from someone who's a sucker, by sending it. And not show / ghost / flake. Then, they will just sit their asses in their notel or incall and accept any Incalls that are going to them. I want to say like 70% of ads that state outcalls on these sites, it's full of shit. LMAO.
https://skipthegames.com/posts/boston/female-escorts/marilyn-/062397599795
Good Report CP. Glad I didn't get to see her. I'm glad she's the biggest corn flake out there. LMAO, I would've been in for a boring-ass time. And she would've just said said eat my corn flakes, rather than eating her pussy. Which prob would taste like a sweaty rusty condom. Eww.
Anyone seen the website for Bidens laptop.
Wonder how much he is paying these girls.
Seem pretty low class escorts.
https://bidenlaptopmedia.com/index.php?/category/iphone-backup
Member #6450
06-28-23, 23:08
They are having a bad glitch! Where you get charged double, from when you do a purchase / transaction. It happened to me earlier this past day, my card randomly updated. It had basically doubled a purchase from the other day. There's News articles about this too, from this past day. So beware Everyone, I just wanted to look out for ya's. Hopefully Locking the card helps!? But it may not, best thing to do is just take your funds off of it.Cash App is so ghetto. I shut mine down a while ago. They kept sending me new debit cards with my name on it that I never requested. Their customer service was of no help. I don't even think they even have a fraud department. Just ended up shutting it down completely. Seemed like someone was trying to hack my account. Plus scammers seem to like using cash app for their scams for some reason. I'll stick with Venmo. Not saying that doesn't have its issues but not nearly as bad as sketchy Cash App. Not even close.
Thoughts on going into a hotel during the day? Does it look weird or do you not care?Whatever you do, don't sit in the lobby staring at your cell phone! Get the room number before entering the room, preferably from your car or Uber. Then, walk right in and go straight to her room.
RI CheeseHead
07-04-23, 21:40
Thoughts on going into a hotel during the day? Does it look weird or do you not care?Depends on the size of the hotel / lobby.
DeepThroat70
07-05-23, 11:18
Whatever you do, don't sit in the lobby staring at your cell phone! Get the room number before entering the room, preferably from your car or Uber. Then, walk right in and go straight to her room.If it's a small hotel like holiday Inn or something where you have to walk past the reception to get to the elevator then walk past quickly and smile Act like you been there before. When I was seeing a girl that lived in a hotel on wood Rd in Braintree it was like that. Or have the girl let you in a side entrance through a stairwell.
Large business class hotels don't care since there are so many people coming and going for the restaurants and conferences.
Got Lucky late night early morning 2:30 AM. Ran into an old friend her name is Loan. She is Vietnamese petite in her 40's and was walking around out there between Dot Avenue and Kimball st. Which is right in between two restaurants, Pho Le and Pho Hoa. I have written about her in the past way back in 2015 and had a good time. Damage was 40 for BBJFS. She was in jail for a short time and just got out recently that's why she look pretty healthy and clean. No phone she says she left it at the jail and has to go get it. We'll hook up again with her on Saturday around the same time at 2 AM I guess.
If it's who I think it is, she is thin short-haired, and has a personality of an ostrich. I dated her once, never again.I know few people that I'd consider ostriches but curious how do you see it in this context?
Can we also drop "I had a dream of xxxx girl". It's so stupid! I havent seen that one in a while though.I second that. People still use it on TER from time to time. Like if it provides the user with some sort of deniability in regards to what he was doing. Sounds so-eh, 'unintelligent' and corny. Reminds me of ABBA. https://youtu.be/8GxkfRD9nns?t=12. That singer actually is not that bad of a MILF, eh?
I second that. People still use it on TER from time to time. Like if it provides the user with some sort of deniability in regards to what he was doing. Sounds so-eh, 'unintelligent' and corny. Reminds me of ABBA. https://youtu.be/8GxkfRD9nns?t=12. That singer actually is not that bad of a MILF, eh?First heard it here. Thought to myself, I guess I just don't speak usasexguide-ese. Still don't know what it means. Have to consult Urban Dict. Come on gents!!
ThizzleHats
07-12-23, 01:21
I second that. People still use it on TER from time to time. Like if it provides the user with some sort of deniability in regards to what he was doing. Sounds so-eh, 'unintelligent' and corny. Reminds me of ABBA. https://youtu.be/8GxkfRD9nns?t=12. That singer actually is not that bad of a MILF, eh?People who do that also usually post like they're writing a Penthouse letter. We don't want to hear your erotic novel guys, just give us the deets.
Are there any raunchy xxx theaters in the Boston or Providence or Worcester areas?? I've got a civilian **** who wants me to take her to one so she can have some fun.
Are there any raunchy xxx theaters in the Boston or Providence or Worcester areas?? I've got a civilian **** who wants me to take her to one so she can have some fun.Art Cinema in Hartford, or video booths in Providence.
Max Walker86
07-17-23, 17:16
A man needs to come home and see this! https://www.xvideos.com/video77558443/i_love_having_hot_sex_with_my_girlfriend_and_cumming_on_her_big_tits_miriam_prado.
Tight black with red lipstick. If I had sex with her I'd lose all energy and fall asleep after.
Mattis1775
07-20-23, 21:22
Off topic here. But, if anyone is looking for a legit foot massage, Nomad in Brookline is awesome. No chit chat, towel goes over your eyes, comfortable chair, warm herbal foot bath and massage. Excellent. They do massages as well. But, didn't partake. Very legitimate location. But, definitely try out the foot massage. Appointments are generally pretty open.
Mattis1775
07-23-23, 16:03
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5f8ef84f7b616
As a PF member myself, it's nice to see what goes on behind that door in the Black Card club area. LOL.
JoeMuckInFutch
07-24-23, 14:24
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5f8ef84f7b616
As a PF member myself, it's nice to see what goes on behind that door in the Black Card club area. LOL.She could make some serious money with the guys on this forum. Thanks.
Deanna Santana? Remember her?
It's been decades, eh? She used to cause all kinds of havoc here on the forum, was proud to be a GFE (I need more of those types in my neighborhood now LOL), and in general was a really nice chick and a good fuck to boot. Just wondering if anyone knows what she's up to now and if she's still with us?
KingOfFours
07-30-23, 12:23
This is just a reminder to people, never give personal info to providers. The ONLY time this isn't completely bad move if the provider has a reputation and legitimate business like Cassia. Even then there is a risk because cops can fuck with you if they bust her. REMEMBER ZUMBA IN MAINE? COPS TOOK HER CLIENT LIST WHERE SHE TOOK METICULOUS NOTES AND EXPOSED HER CLIENTS PUBLICLY.
NOW SHE WAS A FLAT OUT ESCORT AND CASSIA HAS A VERY LIMITED MENU BUT IT'S JUST A REMINDER THAT COPS CAN AND WILL FUCK WITH YOU.
However, random Craigslist girls? Don't do it if your life can be ruined by being exposed because odds are you will be (exposed).I converted the relevant portion to all caps, in the above quote, for easier reference.
I NEVER give out personal information. Nevertheless, I would very much like to know the details about this. Privately if you prefer.
But I'd like to know EXACTLY HOW cops can possibly fuck with anybody, just by using notes confiscated from a hoe? I'm no lawyer, but I HAVE read the Constitution, and if the only evidence is a list composed by a hoe, even with real names, I just don't see how that can happen. So, could you (or anyone?) please explain?
But I'd like to know EXACTLY HOW cops can possibly fuck with anybody, just by using notes confiscated from a hoe? I'm no lawyer, but I HAVE read the Constitution, and if the only evidence is a list composed by a hoe, even with real names, I just don't see how that can happen. So, could you (or anyone?) please explain?Many names found on her client list were made public by the local PD. When you live in a small town like Kennebunk in Maine, it would screw up your life big time. Not sure about the legality of publishing the names, but they just did it.
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/list-of-maine-zumba-instructors-alleged-prostitution-clients-still-under-wraps/
As a side note, Alexis is a totally normal woman now.
Member #6450
07-30-23, 15:38
Many names found on her client list were made public by the local PD. When you live in a small town like Kennebunk in Maine, it would screw up your life big time. Not sure about the legality of publishing the names, but they just did it.
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/list-of-maine-zumba-instructors-alleged-prostitution-clients-still-under-wraps/
As a side note, Alexis is a totally normal woman now.I remember this whole thing well. There was even one guy who was outted who had the same name as someone on the list, but it turned out it wasn't him. Poor guy had his life almost ruined too. He had to explain to everyone he knew that it wasn't him but another guy with the same name. If I remember it wasn't a really common name either, just coincidence, but the local press up there crucified this guy for no reason at all. Not sure if he sued them or not. But yeah whether what they did by publishing names was constitutionally legal or not the damage was already done to those guys. There might still be videos on pornhub or whatever with that Alexis girl. She was really hot though.
Trailman44
07-30-23, 19:23
I remember this whole thing well. There was even one guy who was outted who had the same name as someone on the list, but it turned out it wasn't him. Poor guy had his life almost ruined too. He had to explain to everyone he knew that it wasn't him but another guy with the same name. If I remember it wasn't a really common name either, just coincidence, but the local press up there crucified this guy for no reason at all. Not sure if he sued them or not. But yeah whether what they did by publishing names was constitutionally legal or not the damage was already done to those guys. There might still be videos on pornhub or whatever with that Alexis girl. She was really hot though.I lived in Maine during this time and was trying to see her before everything popped off. Never have been happier to have missed a bullet. I think a lot of the videos were linked on the previous USA site before it transitioned to this one. There was also a documentary that went into the case that had some interesting arcs. Like she thought she was undercover.
I lived in Maine during this time and was trying to see her before everything popped off. Never have been happier to have missed a bullet. I think a lot of the videos were linked on the previous USA site before it transitioned to this one. There was also a documentary that went into the case that had some interesting arcs. Like she thought she was undercover.This undercover thing is what she was telling Jason, her husband. Basically she indicated that she had sex for money with numerous men for official undercover investigation. The dude stood by her through the whole ordeal, including her prison time. I believe they are still together.
MajorJohnson
07-31-23, 00:28
I lived in Maine during this time and was trying to see her before everything popped off. Never have been happier to have missed a bullet. I think a lot of the videos were linked on the previous USA site before it transitioned to this one. There was also a documentary that went into the case that had some interesting arcs. Like she thought she was undercover.She's gorgeous for sure. I'd book if she came out of retirement.
KingOfFours
08-01-23, 10:06
Many names found on her client list were made public by the local PD. When you live in a small town like Kennebunk in Maine, it would screw up your life big time. Not sure about the legality of publishing the names, but they just did it.
https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/list-of-maine-zumba-instructors-alleged-prostitution-clients-still-under-wraps/
As a side note, Alexis is a totally normal woman now.I see that the judge unconstitutionally let this illegal libel stand. It can be appealled and an appellate judge might even award damages for libel on appeal, and might also sanction the police that did this. I suspect, also, that there are probably some young turk lawyers that would jump at the chance, pro bono, to make a name for themselves by filing a suit against the police department and / or the police officers individually, for libel. As I said, I'm no lawyer, but there was definitely an expectatation of privacy here. Clearly, there is not enough evidence to charge these dudes with anything. So doing this sort of evil shit and publicizing what could very well be destructive total lies about someone without any additional evidence, is indeed, by lights, in conjuncion with the 4th Amendment, nothing less than straight-up libel.
And let me make this crystal clear: In general, I SUPPORT the police, and do NOT want to de-fund them. But any police officer who would participate in these kinds of unethical, unconstitutional, and downright EVIL activities, by smearing and making trouble for legal adults for fully consensual sex acts, deserve nothing less for themselves than what they did to others. Because that is indeed the dividing line between a protective, useful, and necessary police force in a civilized society, and a full-blown Nazi Gestapo.
But I'd like to know EXACTLY HOW cops can possibly fuck with anybody, just by using notes confiscated from a hoe? I'm no lawyer, but I HAVE read the Constitution, and if the only evidence is a list composed by a hoe, even with real names, I just don't see how that can happen. So, could you (or anyone?) please explain?Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they also find a bunch of videos she was taking without clients knowledge? Names on the list matching the faces in the video can be pretty damning. Especially if the monetary transaction was on video or talked about.
She's gorgeous for sure. I'd book if she came out of retirement.I don't often get to Maine, but I remember this story. A beautiful, fit, in-shape, toned, shapely, drug-free, disease-free, demon-free lady offering sex for money.
Talk about an idea that never caught on.
KingOfFours
08-03-23, 09:28
Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't they also find a bunch of videos she was taking without clients knowledge? Names on the list matching the faces in the video can be pretty damning. Especially if the monetary transaction was on video or talked about.In some states (RI and ME), it is legal to record someone without their permission. But in MA, there is a two-party law: It is a felony to record another person without their permission. Again, I'm not a lawyer. But good luck trying use such recordings in a court proceeding for evidence, that could only have been obtained by committing a felony. And good luck trying to legally make those tapes available publically. Indeed, if one is fucking someone behind closed doors, even if money were exchanged, and even in one-party states like RI and ME , there is surely still a "reasonable expectation of privacy" , yes? So in ANY state, surreptitiously recording an adult fucking other adult(s), consensually, behind closed doors, such recordings would be illegal, by my lights, and therefore inadmissible.
Maybe some lawyer-mongers could step up to the plate here, and add their $0. 02?
I On Da Street
08-03-23, 11:23
In some states (RI and ME), it is legal to record someone without their permission. But in MA, there is a two-party law: It is a felony to record another person without their permission. Again, I'm not a lawyer. But good luck trying use such recordings in a court proceeding for evidence, that could only have been obtained by committing a felony. And good luck trying to legally make those tapes available publically. Indeed, if one is fucking someone behind closed doors, even if money were exchanged, and even in one-party states like RI and ME , there is surely still a "reasonable expectation of privacy" , yes? So in ANY state, surreptitiously recording an adult fucking other adult(s), consensually, behind closed doors, such recordings would be illegal, by my lights, and therefore inadmissible.
Maybe some lawyer-mongers could step up to the plate here, and add their $0. 02?IANAL but I believe the law in MA only applies to recording of audio. If there's no sound it's allowed. I am not sure if they allow a video with audio, but with the audio stripped.
Longjblues
08-03-23, 12:39
They were all charged. The police didn't just release a list. There were charge with a crime, which is public information. I think the woman or her handler were cooperating because of the completeness as to record keeping. Videos, as well as details and payments.
Plus, maybe you are correct that there was some chance some of the info could be tossed out on appeal, but your name would have been thoroughly taken to the cleaners.
I see that the judge unconstitutionally let this illegal libel stand. It can be appealled and an appellate judge might even award damages for libel on appeal, and might also sanction the police that did this. I suspect, also, that there are probably some young turk lawyers that would jump at the chance, pro bono, to make a name for themselves by filing a suit against the police department and / or the police officers individually, for libel. As I said, I'm no lawyer, but there was definitely an expectatation of privacy here. Clearly, there is not enough evidence to charge these dudes with anything. So doing this sort of evil shit and publicizing what could very well be destructive total lies about someone without any additional evidence, is indeed, by lights, in conjuncion with the 4th Amendment, nothing less than straight-up libel.
And let me make this crystal clear: In general, I SUPPORT the police, and do NOT want to de-fund them. But any police officer who would participate in these kinds of unethical, unconstitutional, and downright EVIL activities, by smearing and making trouble for legal adults for fully consensual sex acts, deserve nothing less for themselves than what they did to others. Because that is indeed the dividing line between a protective, useful, and necessary police force in a civilized society, and a full-blown Nazi Gestapo.
And you can still easily find the porn vids they made with clients online.
Are there any raunchy xxx theaters in the Boston or Providence or Worcester areas?? I've got a civilian **** who wants me to take her to one so she can have some fun.Yes the art cinema in Hartford or the booths in providence.
Take her one of the booths. Guys will either come in or stick their dick thru the glory hole.
Are there any raunchy xxx theaters in the Boston or Providence or Worcester areas?? I've got a civilian **** who wants me to take her to one so she can have some fun.I saw on fetlife that main st video in Somerville had some action like this, but it seems super sketchy whenever I drive by it.
I saw on fetlife that main st video in Somerville had some action like this, but it seems super sketchy whenever I drive by it.It's a gay place, basically.
OkWhatever
09-02-23, 12:27
Apologies if this seems like a dumb question. What's the difference between skipthegames and MegaPersonals? Is MegaPersonals like the new CL? I've barely looked at it, but I see more and more reviews coming from women that post on there.
Mattis1775
09-03-23, 15:29
https://www.xnxx.com/videooke11b9/hot_couple_get_caught_on_hidden_cam_having_sex_for_1st_without_knowing_thy_was_on_a_hidden_cam_amazing_orgasm_from_young_milf
Yes, we've all had to visit hookers with a dirty and disgusting apartment. I believe the worst one was a SW way back that took me to her place in Dorchester. Three dudes was in the house, mattress with no sheets on the floor. Door was off the hinges and she just moved it from left to right. Needles everywhere. House smelled like trash. It was a good fuck. But, I'd fuck her in the car rather than that.
How best to use google translate to indicate that I want a lot of teasing face-down during massage? Is 'teasing' the right word?
How best to use google translate to indicate that I want a lot of teasing face-down during massage? Is 'teasing' the right word?Not sure but you could try telling her soft.
Not sure but you could try telling her soft.When I get undressed. I just stay seated naked. Have my phone in hand. I use apple translator for conversation with woman to tell them what I want. I then lie down and hold my phone while still using apple translator to have a conversation of where she is from. Some nice stuff about her. Get her engaged and more friendly. I then start laying on my side to talk with translator and cut the face down massage in half. I flip over and tell her it is good but here is what I want. We continue to use translator unless there is much more than HE and OTC. Works for me.
Member #6401
09-04-23, 21:52
I was remembering some girls from the past and one name came up. Does anyone remember Deanna Santana? She was one of the playtime girls. I had a good time with her and wonder if by some chance she's still out there or utr? Anyways I really miss those playtime days.
PlasterMoon
09-05-23, 09:07
Does anyone know what's going on with AdultSearch? Gone for good?
Thanks, PM.
KatSuno1492
09-05-23, 17:48
Does anyone know what's going on with AdultSearch? Gone for good?
Thanks, PM.It's currently working for me.
https://www.xnxx.com/videooke11b9/hot_couple_get_caught_on_hidden_cam_having_sex_for_1st_without_knowing_thy_was_on_a_hidden_cam_amazing_orgasm_from_young_milf
Yes, we've all had to visit hookers with a dirty and disgusting apartment. I believe the worst one was a SW way back that took me to her place in Dorchester. Three dudes was in the house, mattress with no sheets on the floor. Door was off the hinges and she just moved it from left to right. Needles everywhere. House smelled like trash. It was a good fuck. But, I'd fuck her in the car rather than that.Link doesn't work.
ThizzleHats
10-03-23, 16:31
Turn it off before Oct 4th before they do an Emergency Broadcast test.
https://www.fema.gov/press-release/20231003/fema-and-fcc-plan-nationwide-emergency-alert-test-oct-4-test-messages-will
Max Walker86
10-07-23, 17:05
If you guys type in corrina blake porn a busty blonde with green eyes comes up.
Also worth mentioning I haven't been able to find tribulus at gnc or vitamin shop.
But cvs has it now, nugenix tribulus 1000 mg in the black bottle. The red bottle force factor doesn't work.
I take it when I need Mental boost. It can be used as a mood enhancer, I genuinely believe it works.
Mark Powers
10-11-23, 10:26
It seems like the highest possible use of AI for society would be to scrape and sort all of the ads from listcrawler / megapersonals etc. To weed out all the fake ads and categorize remaining ones. Has anyone ever thought of tackling this? I'd be happy to help.
Any wine aficionados here? What are the best years in your opinion for Brunello di Montalcino and Amarone della Valpolicella?
JohnGlobalCorp
10-18-23, 11:11
https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/courts/2013/01/25/quincy-mother-indicted-on-prostitution/40050567007/
Curious Monkey
10-18-23, 13:18
Was talking to a coworker who is of Asian decent. His family is thinking of letting him marry some girl that lives overseas to come to America. Her family is offering $25,000. Is this common? Is there another thread I can read further into this?
KatSuno1492
10-18-23, 17:08
https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/courts/2013/01/25/quincy-mother-indicted-on-prostitution/40050567007/WTF that's from 10 years ago. Who cares?
Gianni Versace
10-18-23, 18:44
Was talking to a coworker who is of Asian decent. His family is thinking of letting him marry some girl that lives overseas to come to America. Her family is offering $25,000. Is this common? Is there another thread I can read further into this?The term Mail Order Bride for the woman and your friend would be referred to as a Passport Bro. The problem is once the foreign women land on US Soil that is when they are ruined. The key is to keep the woman away from the USA or else she will become like every other woman here in the US. Just my 2 cents.
Curious Monkey
10-18-23, 20:05
The term Mail Order Bride for the woman and your friend would be referred to as a Passport Bro. The problem is once the foreign women land on US Soil that is when they are ruined. The key is to keep the woman away from the USA or else she will become like every other woman here in the US. Just my 2 cents.Any specific sites or forums I should read to study on this? Or anyone want to trade messages. Hahaha passport bro. I guess if he's getting $25 K, not a bad deal.
Was talking to a coworker who is of Asian decent. His family is thinking of letting him marry some girl that lives overseas to come to America. Her family is offering $25,000. Is this common? Is there another thread I can read further into this?Back in the day I was offered $15,000, $30,000 & $50,000 for fake marriage. Eventually I did it for free to help a friend and a former GF. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone, especially if you don't know her well, and especially if you have assets. Not only it's a leap of faith on your part because she'd have rights to everything you own when you divorce, it's also is a great hustle. You shouldn't have any problems during interview if both of you have good jobs. But if one of your situations is more precarious you better know all of each other's birthmarks and what side you prefer to sleep on, and all kinds of little intimate details that even real husband and wife often wouldn't know about each other. In short it's pain in the ass big time.
If you decide to do anything like this make sure that you at least get an EU passport in return to make it worth your while.
Back in the day I was offered $15,000, $30,000 & $50,000 for fake marriage. Eventually I did it for free to help a friend and a former GF. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone, especially if you don't know her well, and especially if you have assets. Not only it's a leap of faith on your part because she'd have rights to everything you own when you divorce, it's also is a great hustle. You shouldn't have any problems during interview if both of you have good jobs. But if one of your situations is more precarious you better know all of each other's birthmarks and what side you prefer to sleep on, and all kinds of little intimate details that even real husband and wife often wouldn't know about each other. In short it's pain in the ass big time.
If you decide to do anything like this make sure that you at least get an EU passport in return to make it worth your while.Need to have a good attorney to draw up a pre-nup in your favor in case of divorce.
Curious Monkey
10-19-23, 17:24
Back in the day I was offered $15,000, $30,000 & $50,000 for fake marriage. Eventually I did it for free to help a friend and a former GF. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone, especially if you don't know her well, and especially if you have assets. Not only it's a leap of faith on your part because she'd have rights to everything you own when you divorce, it's also is a great hustle. You shouldn't have any problems during interview if both of you have good jobs. But if one of your situations is more precarious you better know all of each other's birthmarks and what side you prefer to sleep on, and all kinds of little intimate details that even real husband and wife often wouldn't know about each other. In short it's pain in the ass big time.
If you decide to do anything like this make sure that you at least get an EU passport in return to make it worth your while.How'd you get the offers and from where? Why no prenup? 50 K sounds like it'll solve any headache.
Back in the day I was offered $15,000, $30,000 & $50,000 for fake marriage. Eventually I did it for free to help a friend and a former GF. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone, especially if you don't know her well, and especially if you have assets. Not only it's a leap of faith on your part because she'd have rights to everything you own when you divorce, it's also is a great hustle. You shouldn't have any problems during interview if both of you have good jobs. But if one of your situations is more precarious you better know all of each other's birthmarks and what side you prefer to sleep on, and all kinds of little intimate details that even real husband and wife often wouldn't know about each other. In short it's pain in the ass big time.
If you decide to do anything like this make sure that you at least get an EU passport in return to make it worth your while.
How'd you get the offers and from where? Why no prenup? 50 K sounds like it'll solve any headache.That was long ago. I think in early 90's. I'm a naturalized American. In community you just get offers like this from time to time. Sometimes from desperate folks, sometimes from very much well-to-do women. The woman that offered me $50,000 I remember her. Plump business lady in her late 30's-early 40's (I was in my early 30's then). If I were to agree I'm sure she'd be the one insisting on the prenup.
Mattis1775
10-19-23, 20:58
Back in the day I was offered $15,000, $30,000 & $50,000 for fake marriage. Eventually I did it for free to help a friend and a former GF. Wouldn't recommend it to anyone, especially if you don't know her well, and especially if you have assets. Not only it's a leap of faith on your part because she'd have rights to everything you own when you divorce, it's also is a great hustle. You shouldn't have any problems during interview if both of you have good jobs. But if one of your situations is more precarious you better know all of each other's birthmarks and what side you prefer to sleep on, and all kinds of little intimate details that even real husband and wife often wouldn't know about each other. In short it's pain in the ass big time.
If you decide to do anything like this make sure that you at least get an EU passport in return to make it worth your while.AMP ladies offer it all the time. I've had several proposals in Chinatown and Quincy over the years. The worst part is that they tell me how the process goes. LOL. Talk about getting a handjob while she discuss all the illegal ways to get married to stay in the states.
Mattis1775
10-19-23, 21:00
https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/courts/2013/01/25/quincy-mother-indicted-on-prostitution/40050567007/[/URL]I wish they put that much effort to to stop violent crimes.
https://www.patriotledger.com/story/news/courts/2013/01/25/quincy-mother-indicted-on-prostitution/40050567007/[/URL]I was wondering why we did not know about this. It's from 2012, I remember a bust way back when. Also a couple parlors in Needham gave it a try. One right on the Newton line. Funny thing is if they just crossed the river they would still be in business. Some towns tolerate AMPs, typically those with large Asian communities. Others a spa is gone in days or weeks.
FakeGuy101
10-20-23, 16:05
Any fun to be had at this place? I've never been but it sounds like they used to have strip booths or vid booths and GH etc; do any women / couples play here? Historically it sounds like fun on weekend nights.
Mattis1775
10-22-23, 06:21
The popular sites are giving in on the age check, unless you previously had an account. XHamster, now PornHub are making you verify yourself. I honestly don't trust whatever method they use to collect your information. A few years from now, they'll be reports of a database that will be exposed of verified names. Look what happened with Ashley Madison site. Other sites are still open. But it's a matter of time.
Max Walker86
10-22-23, 22:11
The popular sites are giving in on the age check, unless you previously had an account. XHamster, now PornHub are making you verify yourself. I honestly don't trust whatever method they use to collect your information. A few years from now, they'll be reports of a database that will be exposed of verified names. Look what happened with Ashley Madison site. Other sites are still open. But it's a matter of time.I finally made up my mind sisi rose xxx adult star is the best to look at. If I could just see her anyway I can I'd be happy.
Gianni Versace
10-23-23, 09:22
Any fun to be had at this place? I've never been but it sounds like they used to have strip booths or vid booths and GH etc; do any women / couples play here? Historically it sounds like fun on weekend nights.I was always told that there is a glory hole at this place. I've never been myself but that sounds like fun to me if it was a girl behind the hole LOL.
Sadinhaverhill
10-25-23, 19:49
Any fun to be had at this place? I've never been but it sounds like they used to have strip booths or vid booths and GH etc; do any women / couples play here? Historically it sounds like fun on weekend nights.It's been a while for me, but it was always a sketchy place, always dudes in the booths, I can't say I've ever seen a woman behind the walls.
But admittedly, It's been 10 years since I stepped into that place, just makes you feel like you need a hot shower.
BallsOfSteele
10-28-23, 07:50
It's been a while for me, but it was always a sketchy place, always dudes in the booths, I can't say I've ever seen a woman behind the walls.
But admittedly, It's been 10 years since I stepped into that place, just makes you feel like you need a hot shower.Back in the day mid 2000's the setup was booths with a partition that might magically disappear.
Bastardale
11-03-23, 20:42
I use google a lot for my research. One of the things I do is search for phone numbers. None of the usual sites (STD, sumosearch) are being returned in the results. As a test, I tried searching for The Erotic Review and there was not a link to the site. If I search for the same stuff on Yahoo, I get results. I do not have SafeSearch on. I'm wondering if this is a new policy by Google. If so, that would suck.
KatSuno1492
11-04-23, 15:25
I use google a lot for my research. One of the things I do is search for phone numbers. None of the usual sites (STD, sumosearch) are being returned in the results. As a test, I tried searching for The Erotic Review and there was not a link to the site. If I search for the same stuff on Yahoo, I get results. I do not have SafeSearch on. I'm wondering if this is a new policy by Google. If so, that would suck.Hmm interesting. I tried searching for "the erotic review" in google and it was not in the list of options, started off with a news article and an imdb page. I, too, have SafeSearch off, so this shouldn't be happening. I tried in incognito mode, however, and it was the first result.
Same thing with a phone number of an AMP. In regular mode, the results were mapquest, yelp, etc. In incognito the first results were Hot, STG, AS, etc.
WTF.
Hmm interesting. I tried searching for "the erotic review" in google and it was not in the list of options, started off with a news article and an imdb page. I, too, have SafeSearch off, so this shouldn't be happening. I tried in incognito mode, however, and it was the first result.
Same thing with a phone number of an AMP. In regular mode, the results were mapquest, yelp, etc. In incognito the first results were Hot, STG, AS, etc.
WTF.You know your search engine is good when you search the phone number and ad's written in an Asian language pop up. Hit translate and it is a help wanted ad for the spa. The good ones have the term "bed spa" in the ad.
SalamanderFour
11-05-23, 08:21
I tried searching for "The Erotic Review" in Google and the same thing happened; website didn't come up, just news stories on the the subject. In private mode, it came up right away. Searching w DuckDuckGo, it came up right away too. So. Not sure. Perhaps Google defaults to a Safe-For-Work mode?
Mattis1775
11-05-23, 08:32
I tried searching for "The Erotic Review" in Google and the same thing happened; website didn't come up, just news stories on the the subject. In private mode, it came up right away. Searching w DuckDuckGo, it came up right away too. So. Not sure. Perhaps Google defaults to a Safe-For-Work mode?Like so many other websites, they are pressured by the government to censor sexual material. I used Yahoo to search Kathy Fitchburg Escort and boom, it popped out. I wish that Google would censor all of our personal information the same way on their search engine! Certain sexual websites now require age verification tactic to gain more information on you. Use other web searches for the time being.
KatSuno1492
11-05-23, 12:25
I use google a lot for my research. One of the things I do is search for phone numbers. None of the usual sites (STD, sumosearch) are being returned in the results. As a test, I tried searching for The Erotic Review and there was not a link to the site. If I search for the same stuff on Yahoo, I get results. I do not have SafeSearch on. I'm wondering if this is a new policy by Google. If so, that would suck.
Hmm interesting. I tried searching for "the erotic review" in google and it was not in the list of options, started off with a news article and an imdb page. I, too, have SafeSearch off, so this shouldn't be happening. I tried in incognito mode, however, and it was the first result.
Same thing with a phone number of an AMP. In regular mode, the results were mapquest, yelp, etc. In incognito the first results were Hot, STG, AS, etc.
WTF.It's the Google account, specifically. I used incognito mode to search for TER and it came up. Then I logged in and refreshed the results, gone. Logged back out of Google and refreshed the results, TER was back to the first spot.
I tested a bit and found that if I went to my account properties, then Data and Privacy, then Personal Results in Search, and turned that off, I now get the results as I do in Incognito mode.
Member #6638
11-09-23, 12:57
Can an admin delete my account.
Member #6638
11-09-23, 16:27
Admin don't make it easy to delete account. They have you contact them but it never gets deleted. ,. delete or ban me so my profile is removed thanks.
Mattis1775
11-09-23, 19:18
Admin don't make it easy to delete account. They have you contact them but it never gets deleted. ,. delete or ban me so my profile is removed thanks.Damn. What the hell is going on? A2 can Ban your account volunteer request. But all your material will still be here, just like AsianDumDum.
Mattis1775
11-10-23, 07:37
Sorry if this was posted or should have been posted elsewhere. The eternal question, should I give them a picture of my license?
https://x.com/dom_lucre/status/1722692528732815681?s=46&t=np8qdW8MiQO9D-aEmRLoWwIn the meantime, this is happening and nothing is done about it. I feel so much safer LEO. Thank you. Keep up the good work.
https://twitter.com/HCSOSheriff/status/1722697622979236313
I haven't been active in this hobby for over 5 years. Recently I've been trying to get back in but wow what a mess. I miss the old days of RSG, Jill's and even Backpage.
It seems like now everyone you contact wants a deposit. One girl asked me for half the money as a deposit and I told her no so she then asked me for $6 to prove I wasn't a cop. Apparently $6 is the magic number. I didn't send her that either. If it's not a deposit then they ask for a selfie. I'm not sending a selfie to a random person that they don't know, especially with the busts that have been happening.
And when you finally get past all that then you get told the rate is some crazy amounts of money. I understand we have inflation and I don't mind paying more than I used to but keep it a reasonable amount. Maybe if they had great posted reviews I'd take a chance but not on somebody with zero reviews.
Sorry for venting just frustrated and a case of blue balls LOL.
I can understand why people fall for the scams and pay the deposits or send the selfies. You get so frustrated that you start thinking with the wrong head. But I'm not going to do that, the risk is just too great.
HardRocker1022
12-04-23, 23:50
Anyone seen her? I see her adds all over the place, but no reviews. Don't know if she's new to the scene or not.
Mattis1775
12-14-23, 14:28
https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph639628ffdb6ae
Whether this was scripted or not, it was classic.
I haven't been active in this hobby for over 5 years. Recently I've been trying to get back in but wow what a mess. I miss the old days of RSG, Jill's and even Backpage.
It seems like now everyone you contact wants a deposit. One girl asked me for half the money as a deposit and I told her no so she then asked me for $6 to prove I wasn't a cop. Apparently $6 is the magic number. I didn't send her that either. If it's not a deposit then they ask for a selfie. I'm not sending a selfie to a random person that they don't know, especially with the busts that have been happening.
And when you finally get past all that then you get told the rate is some crazy amounts of money. I understand we have inflation and I don't mind paying more than I used to but keep it a reasonable amount. Maybe if they had great posted reviews I'd take a chance but not on somebody with zero reviews.
Sorry for venting just frustrated and a case of blue balls LOL.
I can understand why people fall for the scams and pay the deposits or send the selfies. You get so frustrated that you start thinking with the wrong head. But I'm not going to do that, the risk is just too great.Never send a deposit. It's a rip-off.
ThizzleHats
12-16-23, 20:00
I haven't been active in this hobby for over 5 years. Recently I've been trying to get back in but wow what a mess. I miss the old days of RSG, Jill's and even Backpage.
Its not the sites that are different, its the ability to quickly and anonymously send money around the world that has changed.
If Venmo existed when Backpage was at its apex there would have been the same issue.
MrMortgage
12-16-23, 20:45
Looks like she is on foxy list. Scam? Worried since BTT and MA angels are down.
DarkClouds
12-18-23, 21:07
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/feds-investigating-mass-va-brothel-bust-seek-charges-against-28-alleged-clients/3222986/
The BTT thread is closed, so I'm posting this here.
There's an article on Boston.com right now. They are seeking charges on 28 people so far. Names to be released 1/2.
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/feds-investigating-mass-va-brothel-bust-seek-charges-against-28-alleged-clients/3222986/
The BTT thread is closed, so I'm posting this here.Strange. I expected most of people chat regarding this. But nothing here.
Good evening Boston brothers. Not sure where to post this and saw that there was talk on this thread. Just read on the globe website that the probable cause hearings for the 28 individuals going in front of the magistrate judge are open to the media. Crazy times.
Also I saw something about a tryst ad featuring LA Sera. I think a lot of the ads on tryst can be dated and would think that is not a current ad.
Stay safe.
Comcast7777
12-21-23, 23:48
Good evening Boston brothers. Not sure where to post this and saw that there was talk on this thread. Just read on the globe website that the probable cause hearings for the 28 individuals going in front of the magistrate judge are open to the media. Crazy times.
Also I saw something about a tryst ad featuring LA Sera. I think a lot of the ads on tryst can be dated and would think that is not a current ad.
Stay safe.Crazy that this is allowed. In a case like this, the accusation is worse than any conviction. Seems intentional that they want to ruin some lives.
Strange. I expected most of people chat regarding this. But nothing here.When the story first broke people wanted to leave in this site in droves (understandably). Advertisers pay in a number of different ways (clicking on ads, engaging with an advertised wensite, etc.) but the userbase (member) count is very important. There's probably some censorship going on here in an effort to preserve the current advertiser base and rates.
Crazy that this is allowed. In a case like this, the accusation is worse than any conviction. Seems intentional that they want to ruin some lives.It is crazy, once in court you all over the news.
ALSO.
The screen shot the calendar by BTT in the report, they recorded EVERY TX. On the page you can see the client info is redacted.
The page that is shown is from 4-10-2022 (Sunday) - Mia had a very busy day, 3 other girls Barber, Nerdy also on the calendar.
Hyperion11
12-22-23, 11:00
It is crazy, once in court you all over the news.
ALSO.
The screen shot the calendar by BTT in the report, they recorded EVERY TX. On the page you can see the client info is redacted.
The page that is shown is from 4-10-2022 (Sunday) - Mia had a very busy day, 3 other girls Barber, Nerdy also on the calendar.Where is that screenshot?
I like to give back to the community which I take so much from.
Volunteer at the holiday party for giving gifts and treats to the community.
Two of the local girls who are WSW recognized me. We exchanged pleasantries.
They hit me up privately afterwards. I gave them a generous donation. I was feeling charitable. They offered to return the favor but I declined.
Enjoy your holidays.
Comcast7777
12-22-23, 12:09
Does anyone have a rough timeline for all of this? If they filed the paperwork on Monday, when could one expect to get the summons in the mail if you are one of the unlucky 28? And when would the hearing with the magistrate take place?
Basically wondering when the rest of the group can breathe a temporary sigh of relief.
Mattis1775
12-22-23, 20:40
I like to give back to the community which I take so much from.
Volunteer at the holiday party for giving gifts and treats to the community.
Two of the local girls who are WSW recognized me. We exchanged pleasantries.
They hit me up privately afterwards. I gave them a generous donation. I was feeling charitable. They offered to return the favor but I declined.
Enjoy your holidays.Nice work. I'm sure when they see you again, they'll be providing extra service. The ones that I've repeated have given me more when I bought them something from McD or DD from a previous meet. Let's see what 2024 brings us. Streets have been quiet with no familiar faces. It's a hit or miss now.
Does anyone have a rough timeline for all of this? If they filed the paperwork on Monday, when could one expect to get the summons in the mail if you are one of the unlucky 28? And when would the hearing with the magistrate take place?
Basically wondering when the rest of the group can breathe a temporary sigh of relief.I would think you would've gotten one by now since it seems like it was Monday / Tuesday they filed the complaints (which open to media off a complaint?? Seems a little harsh) And mail in-state doesn't take all that long. My guess is the ones they stopped, plus anyone that sent money through zelle (I guess that was an option? Read that somewhere, Never would do that much since there was already enough of a paper trail to begin with). But I would think the best approach would be the "I was lonely and just wanted to hangout with a cute girl, no sex" would be a good defense since the texts don't totally state you are there for sex and as far as I know no video on the inside, they say you paid whatever it was for an hour of bb. Counter with I wanted the girl to get as much as she could but we just hungout watching kdramas (I actually did that once 🤣, I was bored leave me alone, got a whole 4 hours since she wasn't busy and it was early in the morning).
Then again I am no expert by any means, but I feel like agreeing to pay for time and actually agreeing to sex are totally different (image being summoned as a juror on this 🤣. Because I always answered in short hand and never more than needed (I. E person name, time and option, and saying here). Also apparently we are in the same class as elite and wealthy people? Would be rather awkward if after all that huffing and puffing about this being an "exclusive" club catering to the elite and weathly they only muster up slightly well off people (I. E construction workers, electricians, etc) I personally would not consider myself wealthy or elite by any means, I had to save money to visit them 🤣.
Also the statement I saw on the news "if they robbed a bank, they would be all over the news", really? Did you just compare a crime where you hold people hostage to just wanting to get laid? Also let's say they get what they want and every single person gets charged, what's the benefit? You scared people from an age group from risking it, guess what? In 5-20 years there's a new cycle of people and it starts all over again. It's sad when people are legit sex trafficked, but if you paying $100 and the girl looks strung out that doesn't seem happy and you went through someone else. That should throw up some red flags and is just wrong. It's the world's oldest profession. Most of them do it for quick money that would set them for life back home after a few years or feed a habit they developed of their own accord. I always assumed the reason the charges aren't harsh for mongers is because it's pointless, there's always someone new born. And men are simple creatures.
All in all, I think this is stupid and fueled by groups putting in their 2 cents to get on the band wagon. Of course I fall under the group at risk so I'm not totally carefree and am worried. But if it happens so be it, I don't expect much luck in this life. I'm not wealthy or elite 🤣, so my luck isn't up there obviously.
Where is that screenshot?I believe he is referring to this. There was a picture with 3 books, but can't find it.
Comcast7777
12-23-23, 10:55
I think the one advantage that people may potentially have is that anyone could send a picture of someone else and say it's them. Catfishing has been around since day 1 of the internet. Am I really going to get in trouble because someone sent a picture of me and claimed to be me and then possibly solicited an escort? There's no proof of who was actually on that end of the phone.
I go back and forth between whether people in this group need to get lucky to be passed over or if they just don't have the probable cause and that people in this group (didn't get pulled over, didn't pay with Zelle) are safe.
I would think you would've gotten one by now since it seems like it was Monday / Tuesday they filed the complaints (which open to media off a complaint?? Seems a little harsh) And mail in-state doesn't take all that long. My guess is the ones they stopped, plus anyone that sent money through zelle (I guess that was an option? Read that somewhere, Never would do that much since there was already enough of a paper trail to begin with). But I would think the best approach would be the "I was lonely and just wanted to hangout with a cute girl, no sex" would be a good defense since the texts don't totally state you are there for sex and as far as I know no video on the inside, they say you paid whatever it was for an hour of bb. Counter with I wanted the girl to get as much as she could but we just hungout watching kdramas (I actually did that once 🤣, I was bored leave me alone, got a whole 4 hours since she wasn't busy and it was early in the morning).
Please remove post if inappropriate. I don't know the correct forum to share news.
https://www.nefac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/wbur-motion-for-access.pdf
Has anyone involved received any paperwork yet?
I believe he is referring to this. There was a picture with 3 books, but can't find it.The one I was referring to you only need to watch the reporters vid to see it.
Mattis1775
12-25-23, 08:49
I saw a few ads that offer milking table massage, which is very interesting. I'm certain that it's a lot of fun and you can easily see what it is on any porn sites. Here's the thing. What if you can't see below the table. It could be a dude for all you know. Of course, if you can see that's perfectly fine. Here you are paying 300+, thinking the gorgeous lady is doing it, where it's someone else.
If anyone had experience with the milking tables, I would love to hear it.
I think the one advantage that people may potentially have is that anyone could send a picture of someone else and say it's them. Catfishing has been around since day 1 of the internet. Am I really going to get in trouble because someone sent a picture of me and claimed to be me and then possibly solicited an escort? There's no proof of who was actually on that end of the phone.
I go back and forth between whether people in this group need to get lucky to be passed over or if they just don't have the probable cause and that people in this group (didn't get pulled over, didn't pay with Zelle) are safe.1. Well and good, but when someone being interviewed by the FBI, perhaps under oath, doesn't know ALL the evidence they have. . . Are they willing to lie / perjure themselves with the "it wasn't me that sent that photo of me" line? What if they have an IP address or a cell phone location, etc etc. Not all are able to simply stfu and make LE prove EVERYTHING.
2. I would guess that many people at this point would not go public here with "I'll be in court in January. " They would have already had weeks and weeks of anxiety built up, family members, employers, and friends that either have found out or will. . . If it were me I'd not be still posting online about all this. But maybe that's just me.
1. Well and good, but when someone being interviewed by the FBI, perhaps under oath, doesn't know ALL the evidence they have. . . Are they willing to lie / perjure themselves with the "it wasn't me that sent that photo of me" line? What if they have an IP address or a cell phone location, etc etc. Not all are able to simply stfu and make LE prove EVERYTHING.
2. I would guess that many people at this point would not go public here with "I'll be in court in January. " They would have already had weeks and weeks of anxiety built up, family members, employers, and friends that either have found out or will. . . If it were me I'd not be still posting online about all this. But maybe that's just me.Why commit perjury.
"I wish to assert my 5th amendment privilege".
Why answer anything?
Why commit perjury.
"I wish to assert my 5th amendment privilege".
Why answer anything?As I said, not everyone has the "constitution" to do that. Many people want it to go away fast for obvious reasons. Particularly if one is married, has family members, and a workplace, that they wish to not find out. I'm not saying that's the "right" or "preferred" approach, but LE will dangle reasons for going down that path.
I have not and like you stated, milking table along with glory hole, you don't know who's sucking you off. Plus the price I see advertised for service is beyond ridiculous. Have fun yet count me as a hard NO.
I saw a few ads that offer milking table massage, which is very interesting. I'm certain that it's a lot of fun and you can easily see what it is on any porn sites. Here's the thing. What if you can't see below the table. It could be a dude for all you know. Of course, if you can see that's perfectly fine. Here you are paying 300+, thinking the gorgeous lady is doing it, where it's someone else.
If anyone had experience with the milking tables, I would love to hear it.
Mattis1775
12-27-23, 20:48
https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2023/12/27/man-robbed-trying-to-solicit-sex-hilton-hotel-boston-da-says/?p1=hp_featurestack
Wow. This was pretty extreme, at the Hilton in Back Bay, a knife and a gun was involved. WTF. The Monger had guts to report this to the desk. Now, the the wants to prosecute him at a later date. They should be focusing heavily on the Escort and the asshole rather than the Monger. He just wanted sex. The girl and the asshole could've killed the guy. I wonder which ad she posted.
Be safe out there.
TheGodsDecree
12-28-23, 01:03
Please remove post if inappropriate. I don't know the correct forum to share news.
https://www.nefac.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/12/wbur-motion-for-access.pdf
Has anyone involved received any paperwork yet?There is a new development: https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/massachusetts-brothel-arrests-johns/.
They interviewed a "lawyer who represents some of them." If I heard right it means that paperwork should be in the mailboxes or soon to be.
Comcast7777
12-28-23, 16:33
Don't think so. Just says that people reached out to him when the news first broke. Nothing new in there.
There is a new development: https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/massachusetts-brothel-arrests-johns/.
They interviewed a "lawyer who represents some of them." If I heard right it means that paperwork should be in the mailboxes or soon to be.
There is a new development: https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/massachusetts-brothel-arrests-johns/.
They interviewed a "lawyer who represents some of them." If I heard right it means that paperwork should be in the mailboxes or soon to be."However, the Court has recognized the very limited exception where legitimate public interest outweighs the individuals' privacy rights. ".
FINE but why is Epstein LIST / client protected like Fort Knox.
TheGodsDecree
12-30-23, 01:23
"However, the Court has recognized the very limited exception where legitimate public interest outweighs the individuals' privacy rights. ".
FINE but why is Epstein LIST / client protected like Fort Knox.People with more money and more power? I think that's it. Besides the few VIP they allegedly got in this case, the vast majority of us are insignificant people.
"However, the Court has recognized the very limited exception where legitimate public interest outweighs the individuals' privacy rights. ".
FINE but why is Epstein LIST / client protected like Fort Knox.Dude you're not Prince Andrew, Alan Dershowitz, Donald Trump, Bill Clinton and other much more upstanding citizens than you and I. Remember "all animals are equal but some animals are more equal than others" That's gospel.
ThizzleHats
01-02-24, 05:20
https://whdh.com/news/police-arrest-3-people-in-dedham-after-state-troopers-hit-during-traffic-stop-in-boston/
How many people do you think were shitting themselves seeing all the cops?
DEDHAM, MASS. (WHDH) - Police arrested three people in Dedham Monday after a routine traffic stop escalated in Boston, resulting in a close call for two state police troopers.
Police said the troopers initiated the traffic stop and were trying to speak to the driver when he sped off. Though the troopers were struck, both escaped serious injury.
State troopers quickly got three men in handcuffs, swarming the area around a Holiday Inn in Dedham as they did so.
Max Walker86
01-02-24, 10:04
https://whdh.com/news/police-arrest-3-people-in-dedham-after-state-troopers-hit-during-traffic-stop-in-boston/
How many people do you think were shitting themselves seeing all the cops?I see that address alot on the sites. I've seen a girl there couple years ago Waltham Dedham tatii. A chubby Brazilian.
But she was nice. We laid back on the bed and talked quite a bit. If she was around would I repeat? No.
But she was a chill girl, didn't feel like a waisted my money.
Few miles from there is the ARL I always go in person to make donations.
ThizzleHats
01-02-24, 19:12
I see that address alot on the sites. I've seen a girl there couple years ago Waltham Dedham tatii. A chubby Brazilian.
But she was nice. We laid back on the bed and talked quite a bit. If she was around would I repeat? No.
But she was a chill girl, didn't feel like a waisted my money.
Few miles from there is the ARL I always go in person to make donations.That girls body wasn't the best but her head game was on point and she hooked me up with a ton of first-timers. I miss her and if she got back in the game I'd be on her in a second.
Partimer109
01-02-24, 19:28
"However, the Court has recognized the very limited exception where legitimate public interest outweighs the individuals' privacy rights. ".
FINE but why is Epstein LIST / client protected like Fort Knox.The lawyers should try to use epstein case as precedents.
"How do courts set precedent?
It is created by judges in their rulings when they write their decisions and give the reasoning behind them. These decisions are often called "opinions" and, in them, judges often cite precedents from other cases and statutes that influenced their decisions. ".
Mattis1775
01-02-24, 22:41
What's your goals for this year?
Here's mine:
- Limit, NMS. Yeah, it's hard because I drive through there every day. I'll pick girls up if I know them. But the new ladies, unless they look good, I'll make the move. Last few ladies were terrible and they were new. I've only had one or two out of the group that actually worked out. Selection is very limited and the quality has been extremely low.
- Stick with the regulars. I had a few ladies that I used to frequent. It's time to revisit the ones that I enjoyed. Much safer than the shit that's going on now. Getting tired of this BS Epstein, BTT and other sex related busts along with the releasing of the names drama. I'll still try a new one here and there. But more cautious.
- Save cash. Hard to do. But if you use any of those money budget apps, you'll quickly see how much money you spend on sex. Definitely worth it. But will limit the spending on more important items, like a car payment!
- Find a new hobby. Yeah, sex is fun. But like anything, it's getting old. May need to visit the strip clubs again to see some quality dancing (maybe).
Have fun, be safe and let's see what 2024 will bring us. Hopefully, more money back in our pockets if the government is saying they are giving us a tax break.
Mark Powers
01-02-24, 23:06
Even Newsweek recognizes the problem.
"NATO Nation Hit By 'Unprecedented' GPS Attack".
😝.
Max Walker86
01-03-24, 19:28
What's your goals for this year?
Here's mine:
- Limit, NMS. Yeah, it's hard because I drive through there every day. I'll pick girls up if I know them. But the new ladies, unless they look good, I'll make the move. Last few ladies were terrible and they were new. I've only had one or two out of the group that actually worked out. Selection is very limited and the quality has been extremely low.
- Stick with the regulars. I had a few ladies that I used to frequent. It's time to revisit the ones that I enjoyed. Much safer than the shit that's going on now. Getting tired of this BS Epstein, BTT and other sex related busts along with the releasing of the names drama. I'll still try a new one here and there. But more cautious.
- Save cash. Hard to do. But if you use any of those money budget apps, you'll quickly see how much money you spend on sex. Definitely worth it. But will limit the spending on more important items, like a car payment!
- Find a new hobby. Yeah, sex is fun. But like anything, it's getting old. May need to visit the strip clubs again to see some quality dancing (maybe).
Have fun, be safe and let's see what 2024 will bring us. Hopefully, more money back in our pockets if the government is saying they are giving us a tax break.
Spend less on girls is my goal also for 2024.
So I can go on trips.
I'm going to limit nms also but its not easy when you get the itch.
Massage places (providence) and escorts will have to be limited to once a month.
Or every five to six weeks.
I don't see this as a waste of money cause were doing it for our health, were not gambling ie lottery casinos, I hate that stuff.
I just don't have tons of money to spend.
Hobby: I personally like studying engineering, that big new york crane next to mgh is awesome.
Lets hope we get a tax break more $ in our pockets.
GoneFishing888
01-03-24, 20:15
BTT a front for honeypots according to this article. Don't believe a word this article is writing about but thought it would be of interest to you all in Boston.
Take care.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12904363/Sex-ring-Boston-Virgiinia-honeypot-China-South-Korea-ensnare-officials.html#article-12904363.
DarkClouds
01-03-24, 20:17
Interesting topic. Should this be a separate thread?
My goals won't resonate with most of you.
-Never repeat (that is, no regulars, of course). Repeating is how you get into trouble. The first date can never be outdone. And that is why we (or I) monger.
-Spend what you can. That's why we work and why we earn, right?
-Keep your other hobbies going (I have many), this isn't my only distraction (and it shouldn't be yours).
Happy New Year to all my monger friends!
What's your goals for this year?
Here's mine:
- Limit, NMS. Yeah, it's hard because I drive through there every day. I'll pick girls up if I know them. But the new ladies, unless they look good, I'll make the move. Last few ladies were terrible and they were new. I've only had one or two out of the group that actually worked out. Selection is very limited and the quality has been extremely low.
- Stick with the regulars. I had a few ladies that I used to frequent. It's time to revisit the ones that I enjoyed. Much safer than the shit that's going on now. Getting tired of this BS Epstein, BTT and other sex related busts along with the releasing of the names drama. I'll still try a new one here and there. But more cautious.
- Save cash. Hard to do. But if you use any of those money budget apps, you'll quickly see how much money you spend on sex. Definitely worth it. But will limit the spending on more important items, like a car payment!
- Find a new hobby. Yeah, sex is fun. But like anything, it's getting old. May need to visit the strip clubs again to see some quality dancing (maybe).
Have fun, be safe and let's see what 2024 will bring us. Hopefully, more money back in our pockets if the government is saying they are giving us a tax break.
Mattis1775
01-03-24, 20:23
BTT a front for honeypots according to this article. Don't believe a word this article is writing about but thought it would be of interest to you all in Boston.
Take care.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12904363/Sex-ring-Boston-Virgiinia-honeypot-China-South-Korea-ensnare-officials.html#article-12904363.Hey, you never know! Anything is possible.
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/probable-cause-hearings-announced-for-alleged-clients-in-mass-brothel-bust-case/3237248/
If you are part of the 28, don't talk about it and make sure you have a lawyer no matter what.
Comcast7777
01-05-24, 16:14
Does anyone know if the accused have been notified by mail yet?
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/probable-cause-hearings-announced-for-alleged-clients-in-mass-brothel-bust-case/3237248/
If you are part of the 28, don't talk about it and make sure you have a lawyer no matter what.
Hyperion11
01-05-24, 17:45
https://www.nbcboston.com/news/local/probable-cause-hearings-announced-for-alleged-clients-in-mass-brothel-bust-case/3237248/
If you are part of the 28, don't talk about it and make sure you have a lawyer no matter what.If this moves forward, I really hope one of these guys has enough money to take this shit all the way to the Supreme Court if possible.
If this moves forward, I really hope one of these guys has enough money to take this shit all the way to the Supreme Court if possible.And SCOTUS would take in on on what grounds?
Does anyone know if the accused have been notified by mail yet?I would think so? Usually a summons would need to be sent within 90 days of the complaint. Since the hearing is on Jan. 18, they should have received a notice a while ago no?
The Unseen1
01-05-24, 23:30
I would think so? Usually a summons would need to be sent within 90 days of the complaint. Since the hearing is on Jan. 18, they should have received a notice a while ago no?The bust was only about 60 days ago right? (early Novemeber). So, apparently not.
TommyDawson
01-05-24, 23:53
I would think so? Usually a summons would need to be sent within 90 days of the complaint. Since the hearing is on Jan. 18, they should have received a notice a while ago no?The magistrate said the hearings were in the process of being scheduled on the 26th, so the earliest they would have arrived on the mail is the 28th. If they were sent out today, they'd come as late as next week.
One thing that seems deeply unfair is how these hearings are open to the public. The Massachusetts the said no names would be released until probable cause was found, now anyone can show up and see who is being accused, regardless of if there's sufficient evidence to prove probable cause.
Wondering how detailed the media will report, or if anyone on this board is planning on going.
One answer that should come out in the hearings is the evidence being used to prosecute sex buyers.
How many of the 28 accused previously talked to police? The original affidavit said about 20.
Men were interviewed.
What other evidence is being used to establish probable cause? Survailence? Zelle transactions? Text messages?
Also curious if there will be any patterns among those accused. Frequent customers? High profile people?
Hyperion11
01-06-24, 00:29
And SCOTUS would take in on on what grounds?Yeah, obviously we're not at a time where SCOTUS would take a case like this. But the hope is that someone would put up a serious fight, just like Robert Kraft did and either get the charges dismissed, or make any conviction a Pyrrhic victory for the the. Could be just wishful thinking on my side.
Member #6638
01-06-24, 01:50
I would think so? Usually a summons would need to be sent within 90 days of the complaint. Since the hearing is on Jan. 18, they should have received a notice a while ago no?I would think so too it's 12 days...the first hearing is the 18th. I would assume the 28 are the ones who originally complied or they had some good material against them that could stick? All speculation though.
Comcast7777
01-06-24, 12:35
There was a statement from the magistrate saying that they were in the process of scheduling the hearings that was sent out on Dec 21st. If they were sending them out as they went along there's a chance that the majority if not all have been notified by now. If they just sent them out all at the same time at the end of scheduling, there's a chance that some people don't yet know that they're fucked.
I'd be more interested to hear if someone has been in touch with an attorney who may have told them that other clients of theirs have already received a summons.
The magistrate said the hearings were in the process of being scheduled on the 26th, so the earliest they would have arrived on the mail is the 28th. If they were sent out today, they'd come as late as next week.
Mark Powers
01-06-24, 14:23
I made the move down from HR to HHR especially for first visits since so many girls seem to be one and done anyway.i never felt like I was getting my money’s worth for the hour. Should I make the move down to QV? It doesn't normally save all that much but everything counts. What is usually the difference? Is it just a BJ or FS? Is it clothed or something? I know it probably varies but what is the norm?
Member #6638
01-06-24, 17:48
I made the move down from HR to HHR especially for first visits since so many girls seem to be one and done anyway.i never felt like I was getting my moneys worth for the hour. Should I make the move down to QV? It doesn't normally save all that much but everything counts. What is usually the difference? Is it just a BJ or FS? Is it clothed or something? I know it probably varies but what is the norm?Feel hhr is sweet spot. Hr unless only a bit more isn't worth it. I don't need a full hour to nut nor am I trying to put in work for them LOL just nut and go. Qv can get hairy because some don't offer qv FS and then if I do get a clock watcher 15 minutes can go by quickly.
Yeah, obviously we're not at a time where SCOTUS would take a case like this. But the hope is that someone would put up a serious fight, just like Robert Kraft did and either get the charges dismissed, or make any conviction a Pyrrhic victory for the the. Could be just wishful thinking on my side.There's nothing wrong with wishful thinking so long as it's accompanied by a substantial dose of reality.
The realities are obvious. The laws that are being asserted exist for good reasons. There's a much better philosophical argument that an independent woman "dating" for cash should be left alone and that neither her nor her date's actions should be illegal or, if illegal, prosecuted.
As soon as you end up with an "organization" running things, whether it's a "pimp" or a more extensive enterprise. . . Forgettaboutit. (Much less an organization crossing international borders.) There just is no sympathy in society or the legal system (which reflects society).
The Unseen1
01-07-24, 13:15
As soon as you end up with an "organization" running things, whether it's a "pimp" or a more extensive enterprise. . . Forgettaboutit. (Much less an organization crossing international borders.) There just is no sympathy in society or the legal system (which reflects society).As with most things, there is grey area to that as well. There can be very legitimate reasons for having an agency. Look at how many high end UTR girls or XXX stars operate. Much like a landlord may use a large agency with better resources than an individual to find a safe (as possible) tenant, a sex worker should be able to do the same with clients.
I made the move down from HR to HHR especially for first visits since so many girls seem to be one and done anyway.i never felt like I was getting my moneys worth for the hour. Should I make the move down to QV? It doesn't normally save all that much but everything counts. What is usually the difference? Is it just a BJ or FS? Is it clothed or something? I know it probably varies but what is the norm?You should do the hour if it's someone you seeing more than 3 times that treat you good and doesn't watch the time.
Comcast7777
01-08-24, 23:58
Looks like someone on the other forum posted that he received a summons. Obviously feel horrible for the guy but could be good news for those who haven't received anything yet.
I made the move down from HR to HHR especially for first visits since so many girls seem to be one and done anyway.i never felt like I was getting my moneys worth for the hour. Should I make the move down to QV? It doesn't normally save all that much but everything counts. What is usually the difference? Is it just a BJ or FS? Is it clothed or something? I know it probably varies but what is the norm?Depends on the girl. Some QV don't include FS, some do. I've found it's about 50/50 whether FS is included. A lot of QV I've done include it and it's really about 20 min. But YMMV.
SalamanderFour
01-10-24, 10:09
Looks like someone on the other forum posted that he received a summons. Obviously feel horrible for the guy but could be good news for those who haven't received anything yet.Which forum? The internet is chock full of sites.
Which forum? The internet is chock full of sites.Don't think it can be posted because is a competing site, which is why it is always referred to as the other forum.
ThizzleHats
01-10-24, 20:25
Which forum? The internet is chock full of sites.The oThER forum people usually call it.
Member #6638
01-12-24, 01:57
Looks like someone on the other forum posted that he received a summons. Obviously feel horrible for the guy but could be good news for those who haven't received anything yet.Yea I mean the dates are already coming up. So if you didn't receive anything yet. Probably can breathe a bit assuming they don't go another round, but I doubt that'd be the case. This is probably just showing they are "trying" to do something. Sucks either way especially the public aspect of it all if the names of these individuals do get released.
Hyperion11
01-17-24, 18:07
The hearings are delayed while SJC decides whether they should be public or not. Hopefully a move into the right direction:
https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/01/17/mass-sjc-delays-hearing-commercial-sex-ring-brothel
TheGodsDecree
01-17-24, 19:32
The hearings are delayed while SJC decides whether they should be public. Hopefully a move into the right direction:
https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/01/17/mass-sjc-delays-hearing-commercial-sex-ring-brothelHopefully, they understand most of us are insignificant people. They will destroy us for nothing—no political gain, not anything. Meanwhile, the agencies are still there, and thousands banging sex workers as I write this.
Looks like client names are safe for now. Mass SJC has stayed the probable cause hearings.
https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/public-court-hearings-halted-alleged-clients-mass-sex-ring-catering-prominent-clientele/TCKQ2FAGRZBWBLKROPQ3CJIWSA/
The hearings are delayed while SJC decides whether they should be public or not. Hopefully a move into the right direction:
https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/01/17/mass-sjc-delays-hearing-commercial-sex-ring-brothelHere's a repost of my half of a PM discussion in the Northern Virginia forum:
(Note: I'm not an attorney and I don't live in MA, so feel free to point out anything I may have gotten wrong).
Good news for defendants, and potential defendants, bad news for the prosecution (IMO).
Here's my line of thinking: Local MA prosecutors could have chosen any date they wanted to begin court proceedings. The fact that they chose the 18th, 19th, and 22nd, demonstrates that they felt they had all their ducks in a row and were good to go. One essential part of their preparation would have been to anticipate the kinds of motions and tactics likely to be used by defense attorneys.
Therefore, a last-minute delay can only mean that there's a fly in the ointment. It's hard to guess how serious the problem is, but it's absolutely clear that there is SOME kind of problem. Or perhaps some defense attorney motion they hadn't anticipated and don't have a ready answer for.
And any delay will be used by defense attorneys to double-down, especially since they're sure to see this as a sign of weakness on the part of the prosecution. One thing I think they'll pummel the judge with is the fundamental unfairness of allowing public hearings. Here's where MA law is weird (IMO) - in VA an arrest is made when (and only when) probable cause of a statutory violation is found. That finding can be made by LE at the time of the alleged offense (ex. DUI, assault, etc.). Or it can be made later via affidavit for arrest warrant or Grand Jury indictment, both of which have to be signed by a magistrate or judge. In ALL of those examples, the info of the arrestee doesn't become public until AFTER there's a finding of probable cause justifying the arrest AND the arrest is actually made.
In MA, however, none of the 28 alleged clients have been arrested and no probable cause to justify an arrest has yet been found. It seems to me that there are profound due process and privacy issues at stake here. And that's what I hope defense attorneys are hammering away at. We'll know more in a few days and it wouldn't surprise me to see either a reversal of the public hearing decision, or an appeal on that issue to a higher court. If there's an appeal, that will likely result in an additional delay.
Mattis1775
01-18-24, 07:04
Hopefully, they understand most of us are insignificant people. They will destroy us for nothingno political gain, not anything. Meanwhile, the agencies are still there, and thousands banging sex workers as I write this.You're absolutely right. There is absolutely no gain at all, just to humiliate and praise for the the office. They tried to embarrass Bob Kraft, one of the most powerful man in the NFL with a simple HJ. If they can go all out on him, they can do the same to us insignificant people. Hollywood stars are already facing this and most of them did nothing wrong. Big difference is that he's still one of the most powerful man in the NFL. But a simple leak like this can ruin our lives forever. Ashley Madison list did just that to so many people.
Member #6638
01-18-24, 08:04
Hopefully, they understand most of us are insignificant people. They will destroy us for nothingno political gain, not anything. Meanwhile, the agencies are still there, and thousands banging sex workers as I write this.And the plot thickens. Hopefully this is a sign of justice to delay and unlimitedly dismiss this case against citizens. Most likely one or several of the accused is connected and have some reach politically to get this thrown out. It was pretty shameful to begin with to make it public, but people wanted heads to roll to idk show they "did something" or make examples of people. Either way the real fight is the underground associations that run these things that are linked to several shady activities. Go after that instead of tossing a horny citizen in jail for your stupid press release.
Here's a repost of my half of a PM discussion in the Northern Virginia forum:
(Note: I'm not an attorney and I don't live in MA, so feel free to point out anything I may have gotten wrong).
Good news for defendants, and potential defendants, bad news for the prosecution (IMO).
Here's my line of thinking: Local MA prosecutors could have chosen any date they wanted to begin court proceedings. The fact that they chose the 18th, 19th, and 22nd, demonstrates that they felt they had all their ducks in a row and were good to go. One essential part of their preparation would have been to anticipate the kinds of motions and tactics likely to be used by defense attorneys.
Therefore, a last-minute delay can only mean that there's a fly in the ointment. It's hard to guess how serious the problem is, but it's absolutely clear that there is SOME kind of problem. Or perhaps some defense attorney motion they hadn't anticipated and don't have a ready answer for.
And any delay will be used by defense attorneys to double-down, especially since they're sure to see this as a sign of weakness on the part of the prosecution. One thing I think they'll pummel the judge with is the fundamental unfairness of allowing public hearings. Here's where MA law is weird (IMO) - in VA an arrest is made when (and only when) probable cause of a statutory violation is found. That finding can be made by LE at the time of the alleged offense (ex. DUI, assault, etc.). Or it can be made later via affidavit for arrest warrant or Grand Jury indictment, both of which have to be signed by a magistrate or judge. In ALL of those examples, the info of the arrestee doesn't become public until AFTER there's a finding of probable cause justifying the arrest AND the arrest is actually made.
In MA, however, none of the 28 alleged clients have been arrested and no probable cause to justify an arrest has yet been found. It seems to me that there are profound due process and privacy issues at stake here. And that's what I hope defense attorneys are hammering away at. We'll know more in a few days and it wouldn't surprise me to see either a reversal of the public hearing decision, or an appeal on that issue to a higher court. If there's an appeal, that will likely result in an additional delay.Just to clarify on some points.
It's not in the hands of the District Attorney/ AG as of yet. This is a referral process to determine if this will even make into their hands to prosecute.
So it was the court that scheduled these dates and not the Prosecution. It will most likely be a representative from the Cambridge PD reading the Complaint / Police Report to the Magistrate.
I doubt they will cancel the hearings outright, that is going to happen, it's now just a question of when.
Comcast7777
01-18-24, 15:23
Just when you thought you couldn't have any less respect for the media. Basically having access to the hearings wasn't enough for them because it didn't allow them to publicly embarrass people because they wouldn't have all the pertinent information to properly identify them. So the Globe and WBUR jointly petitioned to gain access to the documents that identify the 28 accused so that they could at least have some fun and get some clicks out of other peoples misery. Absolutely shameful.
One good thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the clerk magistrate for Cambridge district court was part of the group (along with the defense attorneys) who protested this action by the media and thus sent the issue to the SJC. Maybe the 28 will get a decently fair shake after all.
One question I've had that is separate from this latest news and I'm wondering if someone who has better knowledge of the law can help out. These referrals from the Cambridge PD, do they cover incidents that happened in Watertown too? Meaning let's say LE has evidence of someone being at a Watertown location but not Cambridge, would they be part of this group because it's considered a state charge? Or would action have to be taken by Watertown PD instead of Cambridge? Thanks in advance if anyone can help.
TheGodsDecree
01-18-24, 22:32
I hope the 28 unfortunate people summoned, who are likely not VIPs nor ultra-rich, keep fighting this fight. I understand that people with a security clearance should get fucked. If I were someone with a high-security clearance, I would have been the first to come out and say, "I banged as many as I could, and I sent my DL and an email to get access to Korean pussy. " But I mean, if my name would get out there, I would lose my miserable job, I would not be able to pay my mortgage, my wife would divorce me, and then what? Will that fucking stop the prostitution problem in MA? We all know the answer. I really don't see the point going after us, the suckers. And to be honest, at this point, I give a single fuck if my name is out there. Everyone can suck my fucking dick.
Now, the media sucks. They just pour gas into the fire because they want more clicks. It is completely disappointing we live in times when they have to do that kind of shit to get money. I lost all respect for those mother fucker. Now I understand those who say, "Don't believe what you read or see in the media. ".
Just when you thought you couldn't have any less respect for the media. Basically having access to the hearings wasn't enough for them because it didn't allow them to publicly embarrass people because they wouldn't have all the pertinent information to properly identify them. So the Globe and WBUR jointly petitioned to gain access to the documents that identify the 28 accused so that they could at least have some fun and get some clicks out of other peoples misery. Absolutely shameful.
One good thing that I haven't seen mentioned yet is that the clerk magistrate for Cambridge district court was part of the group (along with the defense attorneys) who protested this action by the media and thus sent the issue to the SJC. Maybe the 28 will get a decently fair shake after all.
One question I've had that is separate from this latest news and I'm wondering if someone who has better knowledge of the law can help out. These referrals from the Cambridge PD, do they cover incidents that happened in Watertown too? Meaning let's say LE has evidence of someone being at a Watertown location but not Cambridge, would they be part of this group because it's considered a state charge? Or would action have to be taken by Watertown PD instead of Cambridge? Thanks in advance if anyone can help.Not a big surprise to anyone though. Few old timers would remember that there was a big rock-and-roll hit in early 80's on the topic: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJB4TfET_I8.
You know 'people love it when you lose' LOL.
One question I've had that is separate from this latest news and I'm wondering if someone who has better knowledge of the law can help out. These referrals from the Cambridge PD, do they cover incidents that happened in Watertown too? Meaning let's say LE has evidence of someone being at a Watertown location but not Cambridge, would they be part of this group because it's considered a state charge? Or would action have to be taken by Watertown PD instead of Cambridge? Thanks in advance if anyone can help.
The local PDs do the info gathering but turn the info over to the Attorney General's office and that office does the prosecutions; police info gathered about acts outside of their town can certainly be turned over to state and federal prosecutors. A story in the Globe mentions the involvement of Federal agents in the investigation. And a story from the local CBS station says that "Cambridge police are seeking charges..." So it seems that both state and federal prosecutions are being pursued. The federal charges are pursued in federal court, and the local story mentions that the state charges are being pursued in a state court in Medford.
At the state level, the town lines don't matter.
And no this is not "double jeopardy" for both the Commonwealth and the feds to prosecute.
I hope the 28 unfortunate people summoned, who are likely not VIPs nor ultra-rich, keep fighting this fight. I understand that people with a security clearance should get fucked. If I were someone with a high-security clearance, I would have been the first to come out and say, "I banged as many as I could, and I sent my DL and an email to get access to Korean pussy. " But I mean, if my name would get out there, I would lose my miserable job, I would not be able to pay my mortgage, my wife would divorce me, and then what? Will that fucking stop the prostitution problem in MA? We all know the answer. I really don't see the point going after us, the suckers. And to be honest, at this point, I give a single fuck if my name is out there. Everyone can suck my fucking dick.
Now, the media sucks. They just pour gas into the fire because they want more clicks. It is completely disappointing we live in times when they have to do that kind of shit to get money. I lost all respect for those mother fucker. Now I understand those who say, "Don't believe what you read or see in the media..Is that, by their reasoning, clients provide the demand which creates the market for the buying and selling of sex. This is BS for (at least) two reasons:
1. Prostitution is the world's oldest profession and nowhere has it been successfully permanently eradicated. It might be suppressed for awhile, or pushed elsewhere, but it's resilient beyond belief. Whether you target providers, clients, or both, it makes no difference. Hell, they made it a felony in TX, right? Check that state's forum threads to see how that worked out.
2. Compare the war on prostitution to the war on drugs. The same schizoid enforcement efforts targeting suppliers, and then flip-flopping to users, all failing miserably. Now many jurisdictions are decriminalizing possession of personal use quantities of some drugs.
Hey, you hypocrites! How about decriminalizing personal use quantities of pussy?
Hopefully common sense prevails here.
https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/01/22/defense-attorneys-close-hearings-cambridge-high-end-sex-ring
TheGodsDecree
01-23-24, 18:01
Hopefully common sense prevails here.
https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/01/22/defense-attorneys-close-hearings-cambridge-high-end-sex-ringWhen I checked x.com today, people replying to the tweets about this type of news did not know what they were talking about. People seem to want the names of the Johns at all costs, but they do not understand that not all Johns are VIPs. That's because the press misinforms them, saying that all Johns are ultra-rich and politicians. The public doesn't read all these articles, and they don't understand them either. It is sad as hell. Therefore, common sense must come from the state's highest court.
Comcast7777
01-23-24, 19:24
Anyone have a rough timeline when we can expect this all to play out? Are we talking weeks or months?
Hopefully common sense prevails here.
https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/01/22/defense-attorneys-close-hearings-cambridge-high-end-sex-ring
Mattis1775
01-23-24, 19:46
Hopefully common sense prevails here.
https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/01/22/defense-attorneys-close-hearings-cambridge-high-end-sex-ringCommon sense never prevails here. This isn't about privacy, it's about humiliating these individuals, whether they are guilty or not. The damage will already done if they allow this to be an open hearing. Celebrities now are already on damage control from the BS Epstein list.
Hyperion11
01-23-24, 19:59
Hopefully common sense prevails here.
https://www.wbur.org/news/2024/01/22/defense-attorneys-close-hearings-cambridge-high-end-sex-ringThe case is back to the Cambridge clerk magistrate to explain why she took certain decisions: https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/sjc-clerk-magistrate-must-answer-why-court-hearings-alleged-sex-ring-clients-should-be-public/GWYZ5DVH55CT5GC2EXZTJGZ3UU/.
The case is back to the Cambridge clerk magistrate to explain why she took certain decisions: https://www.boston25news.com/news/local/sjc-clerk-magistrate-must-answer-why-court-hearings-alleged-sex-ring-clients-should-be-public/GWYZ5DVH55CT5GC2EXZTJGZ3UU/.So, the Supreme Judicial Court Justice calls out the local magistrate on at least a couple of important privacy-related points. First, the magistrate was inconsistent in declaring a public interest for open hearings yet denying the press access to the complaint documents filed with the court (which contain names of defendants). The magistrate is being asked to explain why privacy prevails in one instance, but not the other.
Second, the magistrate is being called out for not detailing a factual basis for EACH defendant explaining why privacy protections should not apply. In other words, lumping all defendants together is not acceptable to the higher court. The public vs private calculation is different for each individual and the magistrate failed to take that into account.
Also, the article mentions that probable cause hearings are presumptively private proceedings. While I'm not a lawyer, it's my understanding this means the presumption of privacy can only be overcome by laying out an argument that has a factual, logical, and legal basis that can be evaluated by the higher court. I haven't read the magistrate's original decision but, whatever reasoning they used, it wasn't good enough for the higher court.
From reading the article, it seems to me there are two likely outcomes, maybe three:
1. The magistrate fully answers the higher court's questions, including providing the public vs private justification for EACH individual defendant.
2. The magistrate reverses the decision and all hearings will be private.
3. The magistrate (in partnership with LE) selects a few of the higher profile defendants, makes the case as to why their hearings should be public, and the other defendants will have private hearings.
I'm thinking #2 is most likely, as it's quicker and cleaner. The press won't be happy but the magistrate can simply point to the higher court's queries as to why the presumption of privacy can't be easily overcome.
#3 is possible, but that could turn into a real mess as any defendant selected for a public hearing will have their attorney file motions demanding to know the criteria, etc. And any such selection would likely be appealed.
#1, IMO, is dead and buried. From the tone of the SJC's queries, I don't think the magistrate will be able to satisfy them.
How long things take from here depends on which path is taken. #2 is probably the quickest, but at least the privacy protections will be maintained. But, for any defendant for whom probable cause is found to exist, at that point their names will be made public and they'll be royally screwed. Whether or not they're ever found guilty of anything is irrelevant. They'll be convicted in the court of public opinion.
TommyDawson
01-24-24, 12:03
Anyone have a rough timeline when we can expect this all to play out? Are we talking weeks or months?The media and John Doe's have until January 31 to respond to the magistrate.
Will take time for the SJC to rule.
Last time it took the Cambridge District Court three weeks to schedule the show cause hearings.
Earliest the hearings. Public or private. Happen is March.
One juicy detail. The defense attorney who is explicitly arguing that elected officials should have privacy rights previously pled guilty to bribing witnesses. My speculation is a an elected official is one of the 28 and hired the most aggressive criminal defense attorney he could find.
The media and John Doe's have until January 31 to respond to the magistrate.
Will take time for the SJC to rule.
Last time it took the Cambridge District Court three weeks to schedule the show cause hearings.
Earliest the hearings. Public or private. Happen is March.
One juicy detail. The defense attorney who is explicitly arguing that elected officials should have privacy rights previously pled guilty to bribing witnesses. My speculation is a an elected official is one of the 28 and hired the most aggressive criminal defense attorney he could find.It does look like it so I'd guess you are onto something. Hopefully for the others sake he's effective and they all can benefit.
One juicy detail. The defense attorney who is explicitly arguing that elected officials should have privacy rights previously pled guilty to bribing witnesses. My speculation is a an elected official is one of the 28 and hired the most aggressive criminal defense attorney he could find.Damn, I just might know who you're talking about. Can't remember his name though. Is it older light black gentleman with the mustache? At least that's how I remember him from the newspapers. A true legend among criminal lawyers for not holding back. He is the type to take such a case too. Never worked with him but did work with one of his lawyers: Michelle something or other. Aggressive as eff! At some point I began to think that judge would contempt her butt.
TheGodsDecree
01-29-24, 14:59
And more inaccuracy and sensationalism to get people angry and get the walk of shame. This is disgusting.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/01/29/metro/mass-brothel-case
Comcast7777
01-29-24, 17:27
And more inaccuracy and sensationalism to get people angry and get the walk of shame. This is disgusting.
https://www.bostonglobe.com/2024/01/29/metro/mass-brothel-caseAny chance you can give a cliff notes version? No chance I'm giving that rag even a penny.
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