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Darkpassenger
09-04-08, 17:55
I haven't heard anything positive about DTD since Emily left.
Traveling Mongers Beware of this Place in Hudson on HWy 19.
What a fucking Rip OFF! I am so pissed off I can hardly see straight. After a pleasant round of golf and a dinner and beer at Hooters, I'm driving north on Hy 19 and spot a very pleasant sign. Pleasure Spa and Sun Club. Now I am in desparate need of a FIO (female induced orgasm). I stop in and the sign says "Do not enter if nudity and the lifestyle offends you" I think "Alllll Right! I step in and talk to a very pleasant older gentleman who gives me the tour and says you'll be bathed and rubbed by a woman. You'll be nude she'll be nude and she works for tips. OOOOOKKKKK. I know the code. So I pay the. 4 house fee for 1/2 hour, pick a beautiful red head named Angie and she asks me to set the tip on a shelf. 50. 100 dollars it's up to me. OK so I lay 70 dollars, strip and lay on my back. She comes in and starts a lame little sponge bath and a lame ass lotion rub on my chest and legs. No teasing, no touching the boys. I'm asking about 1/2 way through this, aren't you getting nude too? The gentleman said we would both be nude. So off comes her little sash on the bottom and it took further coaxing to get the top off. She does have a fine little body. But she left the g string on. I was sortof pissed. Then she says OK, fronts done, flip over. I said "How about the rest? No HJ? NO BJ? She says no, we don't do that here. You're kidding I say. No she says, so why the range of tips? If I give you more can I talk you into it? Nope. Turn over. So I do and she gets lame on my back and legs. And says you're done, get dressed.
So I'm too pissed to say anything and I just leave. Never again. I did pass a place called dusk to dawn. Does anyone know if this is the same type of rippoff?
Legalize it
09-04-08, 22:28
Yes, some other guys have complained on this board that Dusk til Dawn is also a rip off. I've never been there, and don't plan on going.
I have been to Dusk Til Dawn twice. Once when it was some othe name that I can't remember, and once when they changed the name to Dusk Til Dawn. It's the same thing. Big tips, no action!
Aboutlastnight
09-05-08, 11:17
I sympathize with you Horn Dog -- that same scam happened to me in Vegas, and I was ready to kill someone.
R Consultant
09-05-08, 21:12
The old man should have told you we dont have any happy endings here! I will make sure I ask myself when I go to somewhere new. If they dont answer at all then I leave-- real simple.....
Happy Hunting..
Traveling Mongers Beware of this Place in Hudson on HWy 19.
What a fucking Rip OFF! I am so pissed off I can hardly see straight. After a pleasant round of golf and a dinner and beer at Hooters, I'm driving north on Hy 19 and spot a very pleasant sign. Pleasure Spa and Sun Club. Now I am in desparate need of a FIO (female induced orgasm). I stop in and the sign says "Do not enter if nudity and the lifestyle offends you" I think "Alllll Right! I step in and talk to a very pleasant older gentleman who gives me the tour and says you'll be bathed and rubbed by a woman. You'll be nude she'll be nude and she works for tips. OOOOOKKKKK. I know the code. So I pay the. 4 house fee for 1/2 hour, pick a beautiful red head named Angie and she asks me to set the tip on a shelf. 50. 100 dollars it's up to me. OK so I lay 70 dollars, strip and lay on my back. She comes in and starts a lame little sponge bath and a lame ass lotion rub on my chest and legs. No teasing, no touching the boys. I'm asking about 1/2 way through this, aren't you getting nude too? The gentleman said we would both be nude. So off comes her little sash on the bottom and it took further coaxing to get the top off. She does have a fine little body. But she left the g string on. I was sortof pissed. Then she says OK, fronts done, flip over. I said "How about the rest? No HJ? NO BJ? She says no, we don't do that here. You're kidding I say. No she says, so why the range of tips? If I give you more can I talk you into it? Nope. Turn over. So I do and she gets lame on my back and legs. And says you're done, get dressed.
So I'm too pissed to say anything and I just leave. Never again. I did pass a place called dusk to dawn. Does anyone know if this is the same type of rippoff?
Horn Dog Too
09-06-08, 09:12
So on Thursday night after a pleasant evening at 2001, I call Oxygen and ask if Tina is on duty. (Thanks to the members who recommended her) She is and over I go. I meet her and she is a very pretty young lady and I book an hour with her. I asked her to really take her time on the TS. I always lay down on my back first and that usually lets them know that I am legit, I guess walking around naked helps too. She really scrubs me well and pays particular long attention to a tensing muscle and his two buddies. The massage was quite good for an AMP. The flip and HE was average. I asked if she did oral, "NO NEVER" OK, How about taking off her top. "NO NEVER"" OK. 8 for the hour, . 5 tip because the TS was worth the extra. 1
I Have Been To The Executive At The Old Location And As Recently As Of Today Stopped At Their New Location. Took A Session With A Girl Named Brianna. Now Not To Confuse You They Have 2 Brianna's That Work There. The Brianna I Seen And Another Lady Who Goes By The Name Of Brianna L. Coxxx. I Must Say That I Have Been A Regular At Thier Old Location, Seen Jasmine And Lyloni A Couple Of Times Who As Always Was Very Classy, Upscale, & Professional, But This Brianna Chick Totally Freaked Me Out Asking If I Was Affilitaded With Le In Any Manor. At That Moment I Was Ready To Go But I Had Already Given Her The Minimum (140) So I Figured I Would Stay And See What Progressed. Well The Show Started Off As Usual, Then All Hell Broke Loose When This Chick Undressed. Fat Fell From Everywhere, And This Awful Aroma Was Next. But I Am A Man Who Has Needs, & She Was Eager To Please. Now Thinking Back I Wish I Would've Saved My Money And Seen Jasmine. I Might Have Spent More Money, But It Would Have Atleast Been Worth It. I Am Sure I Will Continue To Visit Their New Shop, But Will Be Much More Precautes On The Choice I Make Next Time. Beware Of This Chick She Looks Nothing Like The Picture In Their Nightmoves Ad, Probably Why The Only Show Her Face! But In All I Have Always Had A Nice Time Their Until This One. But Hey You Cant Win Them All.
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Hi,
I sincerely appreciate your contributions to the forum, but...
Would you please refrain from capitalizing the first letter of EVERY word in your reports!
It's difficult to read, it's time consuming to fix, and it takes you more work to write like that.
On behalf of myself and your fellow Forum Members: Thank You!
Jackson
Member #5237
09-07-08, 08:29
Any new info on this place? Did it ever re-open and if it did, what was the level of service? I have read many fun reports about this place on this website. I can't say I agree. I was there once, maybe back in 2005. It was about 11:30 on a Saturday night. I enter thru the back door. I am told to sit down and wait a few minutes and someone will be right with me. As I sit there, I can't help but notice what a dirty filthy place this is. I notice 2 women in there. Both in their late 40s maybe and neither could get my dick hard. These 2 "beauties" were cleaning up the place and the smell of disenfectant was everywhere. I guess they were cleaning up all the cum that had been spilled that day. This place reminded me of those little booths at the peep shows where you go in and need to watch your step because you never know what might have spilled on the floor. I start thinking to myself, " there is no way I am getting naked in here and letting my fat ass touch the sheets in this place". The thought of walking barefoot into the shower room also had my stomach turning. GOD only knows what fungi would be on that floor. Within 10 minutes, it was exit stage right. It's no wonder this place was so cheap. I would rather spend extra money for a clean place with clean girls. The former Lily/Sunshine/Gold Spa on Westshore or Aloha on Ulmerton are good examples of what a massage place should be: SPOTLESS.
Clinton Bush
09-07-08, 15:15
I was there about 4 months ago late evening. Thought I'd TOFTT. Provider (only had 1 there and it was 9 pm) was not attractive (chubby) but I was in need. .8 door fee and place was not what I'd call clean, but not filthy either. Lackluster massage followed by a lackluster R&T by a young 30's chubbette.
Probably the worst experience I've had in Tampa Bay excluding the old Aquarius bookstore (if you were ever there you would realize how truly bad this was) which was thankfully bulldozed over last year.
I definitely would not repeat.
CB
Any new info on this place? Did it ever re-open and if it did, what was the level of service? I have read many fun reports about this place on this website. I can't say I agree. I was there once, maybe back in 2005. It was about 11:30 on a Saturday night. I enter thru the back door. I am told to sit down and wait a few minutes and someone will be right with me. As I sit there, I can't help but notice what a dirty filthy place this is. I notice 2 women in there. Both in their late 40s maybe and neither could get my dick hard. These 2 "beauties" were cleaning up the place and the smell of disenfectant was everywhere. I guess they were cleaning up all the cum that had been spilled that day. This place reminded me of those little booths at the peep shows where you go in and need to watch your step because you never know what might have spilled on the floor. I start thinking to myself, " there is no way I am getting naked in here and letting my fat ass touch the sheets in this place". The thought of walking barefoot into the shower room also had my stomach turning. GOD only knows what fungi would be on that floor. Within 10 minutes, it was exit stage right. It's no wonder this place was so cheap. I would rather spend extra money for a clean place with clean girls. The former Lily/Sunshine/Gold Spa on Westshore or Aloha on Ulmerton are good examples of what a massage place should be: SPOTLESS.
I agree. A dirty looking place gives an uneasy feeling.
I tend to stick with Oxygen, Japanese Spa, Nagoya, and Yokohama as they do tend to keep themselves clean.
As to which one of the above, just depends on who's working where at the time.
Member #5237
09-07-08, 23:15
I agree. A dirty looking place gives an uneasy feeling.
I tend to stick with Oxygen, Japanese Spa, Nagoya, and Yokohama as they do tend to keep themselves clean.
As to which one of the above, just depends on who's working where at the time.I have been to all 4 of these places. All very clean. The funny thing about Spa Yokahama is you put your clothes in a locker and they give you the key to take with you. How do I know when I am in the shower or in the massage room someone else is not using a duplicate key to go thru my pockets / wallet either to see if I am related to Uncle Leo or maybe looking for a little "extra cash" I might have? I also don`t like putting on those cheap sandals they give you. Why would I want to put my bare foot in a shoe that somebody else had their funky foot in? Just an observation I have made.
Clinton Bush
09-08-08, 13:02
I'd rather be safe than sorry. With reports of AMP workers going through wallets (see St. Pete board), I think you are only inviting trouble if you take all your cash, credit cards etc to an AMP.
Either take cash or buy a 2nd cheap wallet from Walmart to carry no credit cards and just the amount of cash you want to spend. Lock your regular wallet in the car glove compartment and bring the valet key (wont unlock glove compartment) in with you. Why take a chance?
As for the slippers, I guess you could wear your own flip flops to the AMP. I honestly never thought about it too much. I guess I was more worried about my ass and head sharing sheets and pillows that one of you scurvy mongers was sweating on just a few minutes earlier.
CB
I have been to all 4 of these places. All very clean. The funny thing about Spa Yokahama is you put your clothes in a locker and they give you the key to take with you. How do I know when I am in the shower or in the massage room someone else is not using a duplicate key to go thru my pockets / wallet either to see if I am related to Uncle Leo or maybe looking for a little "extra cash" I might have? I also don`t like putting on those cheap sandals they give you. Why would I want to put my bare foot in a shoe that somebody else had their funky foot in? Just an observation I have made.
I have been to all 4 of these places. All very clean. The funny thing about Spa Yokahama is you put your clothes in a locker and they give you the key to take with you. How do I know when I am in the shower or in the massage room someone else is not using a duplicate key to go thru my pockets / wallet either to see if I am related to Uncle Leo or maybe looking for a little "extra cash" I might have? I also don`t like putting on those cheap sandals they give you. Why would I want to put my bare foot in a shoe that somebody else had their funky foot in? Just an observation I have made.
I go to Yokohama less frequently than the others.
It used to be that I was asked to place my stuff in the locker but lately they just lead me straight to the room. I don't like the lockers. I just flat refuse the sandals.
In some other places I do worry about the girls going through my pockets, but the girls at all 4 named places know me and I don't worry about it at any of them.
She is about 5'2" and 100 lbs. She got a scar on her right tit and big nose and nice lips (up and down) any body seen her?
Member #5237
09-11-08, 03:08
She is about 5'2" and 100 lbs. She got a scar on her right tit and big nose and nice lips (up and down) any body seen her?I think most of us are looking for a cute Korean / Japanese chick. LOL. But seriously, unless the scar on her chest was extremely large, I don`t think most would even notice it. If you were a little bit more descriptive about a technique she used or where you saw her at that would help alot.
She is about 5'2" and 100 lbs. She got a scar on her right tit and big nose and nice lips (up and down) any body seen her?We'd need more than that. Can you tell us where she's worked before, a name she's used or a bit more of a description?
She is about 5'2" and 100 lbs. She got a scar on her right tit and big nose and nice lips (up and down) any body seen her?
Sounds like most all of them except for the big nose part.
Some of them look like they've been chasing parked cars. :)
Many have scars on both tits from boob jobs!
Member #5237
09-11-08, 21:05
Does anyone have any info on a girl who runs ads in Creative Loafing? She is oriental and her name is Cami. Her picture is always in the ad. I would love to pay her a visit. Her ad says she is licensed, but who knows. She charges $100 per hour. Not a bad deal if I leave happy.
Clinton Bush
09-11-08, 22:20
I haven't posted much about my exploits during the past 2 months due to an unfortunate incident involving an AMP review(s) and an AMP worker who was harrassed by LEO. I learned my lesson and I am now back posting. But I have decided to leave more to the imagination so to speak.
Based on Speedracer's recommendation, I made a stop at Nagoya tonight.
Nagoya has a back door which I like for privacy. It was open and I walked in and was met by Judy, who Speedracer had recommended. Judy is a very pleasant 45 year old (I'm guessing) Japanese woman about 5'3", a bit heavier than your average AMP spinner (which I prefer) with a nice curvy figure. I really like a nice upper deck and a nice backfield in motion and Judy has both.
My experience was much like Speedracer's, except I spent a little more opting for the full hour (80). Perhaps my session went a little further, so I tipped accordingly. Because of LEO monitoring I am hesitant to say more other than I left very satisfied. I had a great massage and shower.
Definitely well worth the trip!
Overall my new Tampa favorite AMP experience.
CB
I previously posted a comment about this place which was very favorable. Made a return visit yesterday and was met at the door by Judy, who I met on my last visit there. Paid 60 for half hour and into the shower I went. Received very nice TS with special attention given to my pogo stick. Once back in the room Judy started on the massage then said in a soft voice, " ok, turn over baby ". She reached for the hand cream and then lifted up her top and dropped her shorts. As she was stroking me, I was fingering her with one hand and at the same time guiding her breasts into my mouth with the other hand. After I shot my load she continued stroking me slowly until I was completely limp. She made sure I was happy. After the hot towel, she continued with a massage and then dressed me. Left a 40 tip. Will be back again when I don't have the coin for full service at my favoriye place. As an added bonus, Spa Nagoya is less then 5 minutes from my job.
Member #5237
09-12-08, 05:06
Well it looks like things were not as they seemed at Oriental Therapy on Dale Mabry. Uncle LEO paid a visit yesterday and busted Yao Lin for unlicensed health care practice AND prostitution. In her mug shot, Lin looks like she is wearing one of those hospital scrub shirts that the attendants at Oriental Therapy had been wearing. It does not specify if she is the owner or just worked there. If she only worked there and the goal was to operate a legitimate massage place, why didn`t the owner verify she was licensed? If she is the owner, then my guess is they never intendant to be legitimate. How can you open a health care business if you are not even licensed? If that is the case, the owner should be arrested and also charged with stupidity for opening in such a high profile location with a huge sign out front. But it`s quite possible that Yao Lin just got a little adventureous and tried to make a little extra cash behind closed doors. She is not what we all look for at a AMP, but hey, i`m patriotic and willing to do my part to stimulate the economy with a little extra cash for a little extra service.
Loafer Boat
09-12-08, 10:16
Looks like the only people getting action here were LEO!
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/defa...sp/bn=08055457
Well it looks like things were not as they seemed at Oriental Therapy on Dale Mabry. Uncle LEO paid a visit yesterday and busted Yao Lin for unlicensed health care practice AND prostitution. In her mug shot, Lin looks like she is wearing one of those hospital scrub shirts that the attendants at Oriental Therapy had been wearing. It does not specify if she is the owner or just worked there. If she only worked there and the goal was to operate a legitimate massage place, why didn`t the owner verify she was licensed? If she is the owner, then my guess is they never intendant to be legitimate. How can you open a health care business if you are not even licensed? If that is the case, the owner should be arrested and also charged with stupidity for opening in such a high profile location with a huge sign out front. But it`s quite possible that Yao Lin just got a little adventureous and tried to make a little extra cash behind closed doors. She is not what we all look for at a AMP, but hey, i`m patriotic and willing to do my part to stimulate the economy with a little extra cash for a little extra service.I recognize her, not one of the owners, just worked there. I went in a few times for legit massage, almost always saw the same girl. Only got offered extras once, but not by my regular. I'm guessing the owner is furious. I had asked out one of the girls who worked the front desk. She was pretty cute, nice little body, but also did not seem to be in the game. She had moved on to work at one of the Tampa Publixs though. Interestingly enough she'd told me there was more money in the massage but the owner wouldn't even let her touch a client since she wasn't licensed. Maybe this one had fake credentials.
That's a rough looking charge on the unlicensed health thing, given the bond. I'm guessing F3 is third degree felony. Seems a bit much, hope she can at least bargain down.
FWIW she looked to have a decent body, even if the acne wasn't kind to her face.
She is not what we all look for at a AMP.
...especially in the face :^(
Well it looks like things were not as they seemed at Oriental Therapy on Dale Mabry. Uncle LEO paid a visit yesterday and busted Yao Lin for unlicensed health care practice AND prostitution. In her mug shot, Lin looks like she is wearing one of those hospital scrub shirts that the attendants at Oriental Therapy had been wearing. It does not specify if she is the owner or just worked there. If she only worked there and the goal was to operate a legitimate massage place, why didn`t the owner verify she was licensed? If she is the owner, then my guess is they never intendant to be legitimate. How can you open a health care business if you are not even licensed? If that is the case, the owner should be arrested and also charged with stupidity for opening in such a high profile location with a huge sign out front. But it`s quite possible that Yao Lin just got a little adventureous and tried to make a little extra cash behind closed doors. She is not what we all look for at a AMP, but hey, i`m patriotic and willing to do my part to stimulate the economy with a little extra cash for a little extra service.This whole scenario doesn't make sense. Yao Lin was the girl that gave me a massage when I went there for the first time a few months back; she gave a good massage, but wouldn't provide any sort of a happy ending. I guess somebody made her an offer she couldn't refuse.
Toeman
This whole scenario doesn't make sense. Yao Lin was the girl that gave me a massage when I went there for the first time a few months back; she gave a good massage, but wouldn't provide any sort of a happy ending. I guess somebody made her an offer she couldn't refuse.
ToemanDoes seem a bit like entrapment if they flash a bunch of cash to get her to do something she wouldn't otherwise do. Wish they'd clean up the real riff raff and leave these girls alone.
This whole scenario doesn't make sense. Yao Lin was the girl that gave me a massage when I went there for the first time a few months back
Just because a place STARTS "legit" doesn't mean it STAYS legit. If they started offering extras during the grand opening they would have been shut down within a week. The strategy is to open and operate below the radar by offering nothing extra, then once they have a regular customer base, start offering small extras to select customers. Besides the temptation to pick up a few extra bucks is too great for a woman who is making probably less than minimum wage...
The licensing issue is always a problem. I can't count how many AMPs were shut down temporarily or permanently on account of that. No license = carte blanche for LE involvement.
R Consultant
09-13-08, 11:28
Theres been a few places in St Pete through out the years that offered ala carte menus by word of mouth. It seems like one guy will get in good and then it expands from there. So these ladies are only doing it for enough guys to make ends meet.
If you went in off the street and asked for extras you would be turned down. I have learned the hard way and now I just sit back and watch and listen to see how our connversations go.
Happy Hunting..
Just because a place STARTS "legit" doesn't mean it STAYS legit. If they started offering extras during the grand opening they would have been shut down within a week. The strategy is to open and operate below the radar by offering nothing extra, then once they have a regular customer base, start offering small extras to select customers. Besides the temptation to pick up a few extra bucks is too great for a woman who is making probably less than minimum wage...
The licensing issue is always a problem. I can't count how many AMPs were shut down temporarily or permanently on account of that. No license = carte blanche for LE involvement.
Well it looks like things were not as they seemed at Oriental Therapy on Dale Mabry. Uncle LEO paid a visit yesterday and busted Yao Lin for unlicensed health care practice AND prostitution. In her mug shot, Lin looks like she is wearing one of those hospital scrub shirts that the attendants at Oriental Therapy had been wearing. It does not specify if she is the owner or just worked there. If she only worked there and the goal was to operate a legitimate massage place, why didn`t the owner verify she was licensed? If she is the owner, then my guess is they never intendant to be legitimate. How can you open a health care business if you are not even licensed? If that is the case, the owner should be arrested and also charged with stupidity for opening in such a high profile location with a huge sign out front. But it`s quite possible that Yao Lin just got a little adventureous and tried to make a little extra cash behind closed doors. She is not what we all look for at a AMP, but hey, i`m patriotic and willing to do my part to stimulate the economy with a little extra cash for a little extra service.Greeting all,
Longtime Monger (and Lurker) and close freind to a Mamasan.
You do not need a massage license in FL to get a "Massage Establishment" license. You are only required to hire licensed therapists. Also, whenever "LEO" enters an establishment. They plan on making an arrest. It does not matter what "Really" happens. Whose word is the court going to believe? Especially considering the frequent language barrier!
C
Guys, I believe in judging businesses by the way they market. I paid a visit to Oriental Massage the first week they opened, and posted an AVOID service warning for all members at that time.
1. Their establishment is a high dollar build out, a lot of investment to lose.
2. The place was crawling with young oriental guys(owners?) as well as non-massage oriental young girls. Why???
3. Their advertising is aggressive and misleading.
4. The above facts defy presumption that this is their first establishment. A ring of slick operators from Southern Cal? Texas? Atlanta? Flush with cash to invest.
5. Many, many out-of-towners come to Tampa Bay. Will not many of the guys be tempeted by the aggressive, misleading ads and waste their money?
6. Their advertising ($69 massage etc etc) leaves the reader with the "perception" that standard AMP treatment will be the "reality".
To the extent there were HEs or offers of same at this place or offers, I'll lay 100 to 1 that they were mavericks (kind of like McBush [he he] couldn't resist) and not endorsed by the oweners and not part of a the business model or long-term plans.
Again, I'll lay 100 to 1 that this place is marketing the "illusion of happiness" and always will.
My humble $.02 worth... AVOID.
Cheers!!
Clinton Bush
09-14-08, 12:26
You called it, Batchero. Also the location and amount of advertising is a key factor in the amount of attention LEO is going to pay to an AMP.
LEO must do what the mayor and council running the government direct. And complaints from their rich campaign contributors is a big factor. So what location is going to get the most complaints from the big dollar citizens?
(1) Heavily advertised AMP in upscale Carrollwood where they live?
(2) Moderately advertised AMP in Drew Park where their gardener lives?
(3) Discreet AMP tucked in quiet industrial park where no one lives?
AMPS are going to exist, but when they call too much attention and locate where the movers and shakers live, then LEO will shut them down.
Move Mons Venus and 2001 up Dale Mabry into Carrollwood to the Oriental Spa shopping center near where people live. They might last a week, if that.
CB
Guys, I believe in judging businesses by the way they market. I paid a visit to Oriental Massage the first week they opened, and posted an AVOID service warning for all members at that time.
1. Their establishment is a high dollar build out, a lot of investment to lose.
2. The place was crawling with young oriental guys(owners?) as well as non-massage oriental young girls. Why???
3. Their advertising is aggressive and misleading.
4. The above facts defy presumption that this is their first establishment. A ring of slick operators from Southern Cal? Texas? Atlanta? Flush with cash to invest.
5. Many, many out-of-towners come to Tampa Bay. Will not many of the guys be tempeted by the aggressive, misleading ads and waste their money?
6. Their advertising ($69 massage etc etc) leaves the reader with the "perception" that standard AMP treatment will be the "reality".
To the extent there were HEs or offers of same at this place or offers, I'll lay 100 to 1 that they were mavericks (kind of like McBush [he he] couldn't resist) and not endorsed by the oweners and not part of a the business model or long-term plans.
Again, I'll lay 100 to 1 that this place is marketing the "illusion of happiness" and always will.
My humble $.02 worth... AVOID.
Cheers!!
Member #5237
09-14-08, 18:45
Greeting all,
Longtime Monger (and Lurker) and close freind to a Mamasan.
You do not need a massage license in FL to get a "Massage Establishment" license. You are only required to hire licensed therapists. Also, whenever "LEO" enters an establishment. They plan on making an arrest. It does not matter what "Really" happens. Whose word is the court going to believe? Especially considering the frequent language barrier!
CYou are way off course with your " they plan on making an arrest it does not matter what "really" happened. " comment. If that was the case, they wouldn't even have to enter the place. They could just make up some bullshit excuse about being solicited and arrest anyone they wanted. Any cop who lies in their reports or makes false statements is putting his job on the line. What cop is going to risk his job over some girl offering sex for money? That is the height of stupidity given the fact that prostitution is a misdemeanor offense. I'm not sure who your mamasan friend is, but maybe she is just paranoid about Uncle LEO and blames him for all her troubles. All these mamasans who allow their girls to offer extras know that it is illegal and have to take their lumps when they get caught. If all Uncle LEO had to do was lie about being solicited, they could put EVERY massage parlor and lingerie modeling studio out of business immediately. One last piece of advice: know your facts before you open your mouth. It is better to remain silent and have people suspect that that you are an idiot, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Has any one ever been busted for patronizing an AMP? I mean, I see the girls arrested with some frequency, but I don't think I've ever heard of a customer being arrested. Does it happen? I tend to get all paranoid before I go, but after years of going (very occasionally, though, I might add) I'm starting to wonder if its completely unwarranted.
Member #5237
09-15-08, 03:05
Has any one ever been busted for patronizing an AMP? I mean, I see the girls arrested with some frequency, but I don't think I've ever heard of a customer being arrested. Does it happen? I tend to get all paranoid before I go, but after years of going (very occasionally, though, I might add) I'm starting to wonder if its completely unwarranted.There is nothing illegal about being in a AMP. It is a business and you have every right toi be there. Unless the police can prove you agreed to pay for sex, you have nothing to worry about.
Mike Wazowski
09-15-08, 09:23
You are way off course with your " they plan on making an arrest it does not matter what "really" happened. " comment. If that was the case, they wouldn't even have to enter the place. They could just make up some bullshit excuse about being solicited and arrest anyone they wanted. Any cop who lies in their reports or makes false statements is putting his job on the line. What cop is going to risk his job over some girl offering sex for money? That is the height of stupidity given the fact that prostitution is a misdemeanor offense. I'm not sure who your mamasan friend is, but maybe she is just paranoid about Uncle LEO and blames him for all her troubles. All these mamasans who allow their girls to offer extras know that it is illegal and have to take their lumps when they get caught. If all Uncle LEO had to do was lie about being solicited, they could put EVERY massage parlor and lingerie modeling studio out of business immediately. One last piece of advice: know your facts before you open your mouth. It is better to remain silent and have people suspect that that you are an idiot, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt.
Wow, Speed, no offense but I remember when I was young and naive and thought everything was righteous.
I could tell you the story of a strip club manager I know who went to court, armed with time-stamped video, proving that a lewd and lascivious private dance investigative officers claimed happened NEVER did. In the same case the two investigating officers told two completely different stories about what they observed with the only items coming close to a match being the dancer's name. They both even gave inaccurate physical descriptions of said dancer, neither similar to each other and neither describing the dancer they named.
So, with conflicting reports by the investigators and video proving the dancer named never did a private dance that night, the dancer, of course, was found guilty and even lectured by the judge about her need to "find a real job" with her GED and three kids to take care of.
You asked what cop is going to risk his job making up a story about prostitution.
Well, my young padawan, the only cop who is putting his job at risk is the cop who is told by his superiors to go to a specific location and find crime, who then comes back to the station to report that there was no criminal activity to find where he was sent. Being sent to find crime and not finding it is unacceptable to his superiors.
So, when sent to massage parlors, strip clubs, etc., yes, indeed, the police do in fact enter with the intent of making arrests before they ever get there. You asked why they don't just keep doing so until the shops are gone. Well, that would show harrassment in the "court of public opinion," so they have to tread a line.
Also, the last thing they want is to eliminate a nice revenue source for the courts. Bust everybody twice a year and rake in the fines. The courts aren't about to let them kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
Hey, I came out of my college government class all excited about how wonderful our judicial system is. Then I got out and experienced real life and I shake my head in disgust of the mockery our legal system has turned itself into.
Now, Speed, re-read your last sentence: "It is better to remain silent and have people suspect that that you are an idiot, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
This is coming from a guy who, a few days ago, suggested that if a patron gets "caught in the act" at an AMP to tell the police that he did not pay for anything other than a massage and did not pay for sex. They were just having sex because they hit it off and that's not illegal.
Really good advice, there. So, do you want to know what every experienced monger is thinking right about now? Well I can't speak for the rest but I'm certainly wondering why a guy who came onto this board like gang-busters, filled with reports about AMPs and some street activity and has shown his naivity a few times is suddenly going ape-shit defending corrupt police practices any adult who has spent time in reality knows to be true?
Maybe you just haven't had your run-in with some arrogant pig who picked you for his target and was looking for anything - ANYTHING - to nail you with and you really believe that the police are good, honest people. Your day will come, mark my words, sir. You'll change your mind.
Until then, I'm going to lean with thinking negative police comments rubbed a blue-brother in the wrong way. And I'm the first one to cringe when someone yells "Cop!" after a guy's first post. You've got a lot more posts to do the math on this one, though.
Loafer Boat
09-15-08, 09:48
This post is from this morning.
Someone got thier investment dollars back to work.
I'll bet it is really legit for a while!
http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ths/841239748.html
Member #5237
09-15-08, 12:37
Wow, Speed, no offense but I remember when I was young and naive and thought everything was righteous.
I could tell you the story of a strip club manager I know who went to court, armed with time-stamped video, proving that a lewd and lascivious private dance investigative officers claimed happened NEVER did. In the same case the two investigating officers told two completely different stories about what they observed with the only items coming close to a match being the dancer's name. They both even gave inaccurate physical descriptions of said dancer, neither similar to each other and neither describing the dancer they named.
So, with conflicting reports by the investigators and video proving the dancer named never did a private dance that night, the dancer, of course, was found guilty and even lectured by the judge about her need to "find a real job" with her GED and three kids to take care of.
You asked what cop is going to risk his job making up a story about prostitution.
Well, my young padawan, the only cop who is putting his job at risk is the cop who is told by his superiors to go to a specific location and find crime, who then comes back to the station to report that there was no criminal activity to find where he was sent. Being sent to find crime and not finding it is unacceptable to his superiors.
So, when sent to massage parlors, strip clubs, etc., yes, indeed, the police do in fact enter with the intent of making arrests before they ever get there. You asked why they don't just keep doing so until the shops are gone. Well, that would show harrassment in the "court of public opinion," so they have to tread a line.
Also, the last thing they want is to eliminate a nice revenue source for the courts. Bust everybody twice a year and rake in the fines. The courts aren't about to let them kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.
Hey, I came out of my college government class all excited about how wonderful our judicial system is. Then I got out and experienced real life and I shake my head in disgust of the mockery our legal system has turned itself into.
Now, Speed, re-read your last sentence: "It is better to remain silent and have people suspect that that you are an idiot, then to open your mouth and remove all doubt."
This is coming from a guy who, a few days ago, suggested that if a patron gets "caught in the act" at an AMP to tell the police that he did not pay for anything other than a massage and did not pay for sex. They were just having sex because they hit it off and that's not illegal.
Really good advice, there. So, do you want to know what every experienced monger is thinking right about now? Well I can't speak for the rest but I'm certainly wondering why a guy who came onto this board like gang-busters, filled with reports about AMPs and some street activity and has shown his naivity a few times is suddenly going ape-shit defending corrupt police practices any adult who has spent time in reality knows to be true?
Maybe you just haven't had your run-in with some arrogant pig who picked you for his target and was looking for anything - ANYTHING - to nail you with and you really believe that the police are good, honest people. Your day will come, mark my words, sir. You'll change your mind.
Until then, I'm going to lean with thinking negative police comments rubbed a blue-brother in the wrong way. And I'm the first one to cringe when someone yells "Cop!" after a guy's first post. You've got a lot more posts to do the math on this one, though.For the record, I have been mongering for over 25 years. I have picked up street walkers, been to many AMPS even lost my virginity to a girl who provided incall service. Only thing I am new to is this board, and that`s only because I never even knew it existed until recently. The case you mentioned where the girl was found guilty would have definetaly been won on appeal. Not all judges are honest. As for getting caught in the act, that still does not prove anything illegal happened. Many guys who picked up street walkers and were caught by the police have been able to BS the cops into believing they were boyfriend/girlfriend. They HAVE to have proof money exchanged hands. I have no love for the cops. I was actually arrested once trying to pick up an undercover cop. As I am talking to her telling her what I want and she is talking to me telling me what she can do for me I was not doing anything illegal. The moment I mentioned what I was willing to pay for her services she motioned for her back-up partner to come and get me. I have seen this issue from both sides of the law. In most states you could be dead drunk behind the wheel of a car, as long as that vehicle is legally parked, you can not be charged with drunk driving. Even though the cops know you were driving at some point, they HAVE to see it. They just can not assume you were driving. I have seen this happen first hand. I stand by everything that I have said. Your opinion is just that, YOUR opinion.
Mike Wazowski
09-15-08, 15:36
In most states you could be dead drunk behind the wheel of a car, as long as that vehicle is legally parked, you can not be charged with drunk driving. .
AFAIK, this is the exect opposite of the truth. I don't know of any state that does not allow for DUI conviction if the person is behind the wheel and in possession of the car keys.
AFAIK, this is the exect opposite of the truth. I don't know of any state that does not allow for DUI conviction if the person is behind the wheel and in possession of the car keys.I know a person convicted of DUI for "sleeping it off" in his car outside of a bar. In Largo. And this was in the days before they'd really cracked down on DUI.
Mike Wazowski
09-15-08, 15:42
As for getting caught in the act, that still does not prove anything illegal happened. Many guys who picked up street walkers and were caught by the police have been able to BS the cops into believing they were boyfriend/girlfriend. They HAVE to have proof money exchanged hands. I have no love for the cops. I was actually arrested once trying to pick up an undercover cop. As I am talking to her telling her what I want and she is talking to me telling me what she can do for me I was not doing anything illegal. The moment I mentioned what I was willing to pay for her services she motioned for her back-up partner to come and get me..
For the first part, proving money exchanged hands, etc. You might be able to BS and/or charm the cops on the street and get them to let you go with a "warning." However, if they take you in and it goes to court, every word out of the cops' mouths is the God's honest truth and anything the defendent says will be an outright lie. If you are the defendent, they'll even tell you to make it easier on yourself by ceasing with your lies.
If your "I was arrested once trying to pick up an undercover cop" tale is not a knee-jerk cover story, then I must say that I have to go with the extremely naive assessment I've been giving you since you started posting.
And make that VERY EXTREMELY naive for someone claiming 25 years in this little game we play.
This post is from this morning.
Someone got thier investment dollars back to work.
I'll bet it is really legit for a while!
http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ths/841239748.htmlJust called, they are definitely open again. I asked about my favorite there, and they told me "try another girl, she's on vacation". She might have left so she doesn't get caught up in any shenanigans there. Pity, I would have loved to corrupt her.
Member #5237
09-15-08, 16:28
AFAIK, this is the exect opposite of the truth. I don't know of any state that does not allow for DUI conviction if the person is behind the wheel and in possession of the car keys.North Carolina.
I was driving one night with my nephew, his wife, and 2 year old child in the car. We were hit by a drunk driver. Minor damage. Police were called. Police show up, other driver can not stand up straight, obviously drunk, his truck on the side of the road. Police tell us that because they did not actually see him drive the car ( although it was obviously he was ) the case would be thrown out of court in less then 5 minutes. That is based on North Carolina law. All the police could do that night was take his keys which he could get back when he was sober. As I said, I was there that night and saw this happen first hand. My point is you are not an expert on every law from state to state. As for your comment about every defendent being viewed as liars in court, how do you explain the fact that so many people have the charges dropped in court, or go to trial and eventually found innocent? Stick to what you know, and remain silent about what you dont know.
Member #5237
09-15-08, 16:41
For the first part, proving money exchanged hands, etc. You might be able to BS and/or charm the cops on the street and get them to let you go with a "warning." However, if they take you in and it goes to court, every word out of the cops' mouths is the God's honest truth and anything the defendent says will be an outright lie. If you are the defendent, they'll even tell you to make it easier on yourself by ceasing with your lies.
If your "I was arrested once trying to pick up an undercover cop" tale is not a knee-jerk cover story, then I must say that I have to go with the extremely naive assessment I've been giving you since you started posting.
And make that VERY EXTREMELY naive for someone claiming 25 years in this little game we play.Let me also say I do not blame the cops for arresting me. I did it. I was guilty. I blame the local & state politicians for passing laws that someone can be arrested for a misdeamor offense. Any other state it seems all they do is issue you a citation which may or may not require you to go to court also. Check the HCSO website any day. I never saw so many people arrested for stupid things like expired drivers license, fishing without a license, littering, etc... Just more proof that laws vary from county to county and state to state. More proof you are not qualified to be giving legal advice.
Hard Working 19
09-15-08, 16:51
They HAVE to have proof money exchanged hands. I have no love for the cops. I was actually arrested once trying to pick up an undercover cop. As I am talking to her telling her what I want and she is talking to me telling me what she can do for me I was not doing anything illegal. The moment I mentioned what I was willing to pay for her services she motioned for her back-up partner to come and get me.......... I stand by everything that I have said. Your opinion is just that, YOUR opinion.
Money does absolutly NOT have to change hands. All you have to do is offer, or agree to pay for sex. You may want to read http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0796/ch0796.htm and pay particular attention to 796.07. And as far as you DUI statements, if you are drunk in driver's seat of your car, and the keys are in the ignition, even if the car isn't running, you can and will get charged with DUI.
This post is from this morning. Someone got thier investment dollars back to work. I'll bet it is really legit for a while!
http://tampa.craigslist.org/hil/ths/841239748.html
I wonder if you can ask for one of those facial masks to be applied to your privates! Cleaning it up could be interesting!
Has any one ever been busted for patronizing an AMP? I mean, I see the girls arrested with some frequency, but I don't think I've ever heard of a customer being arrested. Does it happen? I tend to get all paranoid before I go, but after years of going (very occasionally, though, I might add) I'm starting to wonder if its completely unwarranted.
Yes and yes. Do a quick check of the Northern Virginia Board and you'll see that it does happen. Typically, once LE establishes that illicit sexual activities have taken place the charges for the patrons are "frequenting a bawdy place..."
There also have been reports of LE staking out AMPs and then pulling over fellows as they leave. Using the premise of a minor traffic violation, LE has forcefully probed the unsuspecting (post orgasm) monger. "I know what goes on in there... want to talk to me about it?"
Has any one ever been busted for patronizing an AMP? I mean, I see the girls arrested with some frequency, but I don't think I've ever heard of a customer being arrested. Does it happen? I tend to get all paranoid before I go, but after years of going (very occasionally, though, I might add) I'm starting to wonder if its completely unwarranted.
There was a report a few years ago about LEO taking pictures of cars at AMPs in Sarasota and mailing letters to the owners of the cars informing them that their car had been at an establishment with a history of prostitution. A couple of guys posted that they were the first ones at their mailboxes for a while, being helpful husbands.
Also there are some old laws in some states (and I don't know about Florida) that make it illegal to "frequent a bawdy house". So I would prefer not to be there when the cops come calling, as merely contacting your house for a follow up call be can as damaging as having your name in the paper.
J3
Member #5237
09-15-08, 20:49
Money does absolutly NOT have to change hands. All you have to do is offer, or agree to pay for sex. You may want to read http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes/index.cfm?App_mode=Display_Statute&URL=Ch0796/ch0796.htm and pay particular attention to 796.07. And as far as you DUI statements, if you are drunk in driver's seat of your car, and the keys are in the ignition, even if the car isn't running, you can and will get charged with DUI.I stand corrected about money actually changing hands. You are correct about just making the offer or agreeing to pay for sex. As for the DUI laws, they differ from state to state. I know for a fact that the law in NC states that if the cops find you drunk behind the wheel of your car, parked normally, car off, location of keys is unimportant. The police literally have to see the car in motion. I saw this happen first hand. The cop told me to my face, any lawyer can get the charges dropped in less then 5 minutes. Now, if you are found drunk, asleep, but in the flow of traffic, that is completely different. Another example of how the law varies. In some states, if your blood alcohol level is 0. 10. You are legally drunk. I think Floridas level is lower, 0. 08 You can't make a blanket statement about the law being the same for everything in all 50 states.
Member #5237
09-15-08, 20:58
Has any one ever been busted for patronizing an AMP? I mean, I see the girls arrested with some frequency, but I don't think I've ever heard of a customer being arrested. Does it happen? I tend to get all paranoid before I go, but after years of going (very occasionally, though, I might add) I'm starting to wonder if its completely unwarranted.Obviously the police use intimidation to get info. "Tell us what happened in there and you will just get a warning". Unfortunetely some guys will crack under the pressure. Think for a minute. If the cops really know what happened, why would they offer you a deal for information? Do you actually think they like you?
Member #5237
09-15-08, 21:35
Also, the last thing they want is to eliminate a nice revenue source for the courts. Bust everybody twice a year and rake in the fines. The courts aren't about to let them kill the goose that lays the golden eggs.This comment had me laughing. Most AMPs are open 365 daya year. Let's go on the high end and say 20 girls are arrested each year. Of the ones that are found guilty, any fine that is imposed by the court is trivial compared to the annual revenue source for the city. Build 2 new houses in New Tampa and they will generate more real estate taxes then the fines these girls pay. Also, the cops can't just go in to a AMP and arrest everyone for prostitution. They need proof. That's why they send in undercover cops. Otherwise, all they would have to do is park at any AMP, wait until a customer pulls up, wait 20 minutes and go in. If you watched the MSNBC special, '' Sex In America", the host of the show asked " why are there so many AMPs in business if most are houses of prostitution"? The answer, '' it's very difficult to build a case against these places, and then it's only a misdemeanor". That is why Florida, and I'm sure other states, are now charging these women with unlicensed practice of health care, which is a felony.
Member #5237
09-15-08, 21:56
Until then, I'm going to lean with thinking negative police comments rubbed a blue-brother in the wrong way. And I'm the first one to cringe when someone yells "Cop!" after a guy's first post. You've got a lot more posts to do the math on this one, though.This is so laughable. I have posted reports about different places I have been. A few mongers later posted here, and in PM that they took my advice and expierenced the same things that I did. You also suggest that I need more posts to gain credibility. Now it's time for you to do the math. You have been a member for just over 4 years and have 139 posts. I have been a member for only 3 months and have 56 posts. At this rate, I will probably surpass your 4 year total by New Years. If anyone has a plate of jelly do-nuts in front of them, it is you my friend. My intent was not to bash you or anyone else. I enjoy reading everyones reports. Just don't assume you are a expert in law because you took a government class in college.
Hardwood123
09-15-08, 22:50
I wonder if you can ask for one of those facial masks to be applied to your privates! Cleaning it up could be interesting!
Just don't let them give you a "peel", Drew.
I haven't seen it in the regular papers yet but a K friend of mine said there is a report in a K paper that is free to the public at K markets that Magic was recently busted.
Mike Wazowski
09-16-08, 09:57
North Carolina.
I was driving one night with my nephew, his wife, and 2 year old child in the car. We were hit by a drunk driver. Minor damage. Police were called. Police show up, other driver can not stand up straight, obviously drunk, his truck on the side of the road. Police tell us that because they did not actually see him drive the car ( although it was obviously he was ) the case would be thrown out of court in less then 5 minutes. That is based on North Carolina law. All the police could do that night was take his keys which he could get back when he was sober. As I said, I was there that night and saw this happen first hand. My point is you are not an expert on every law from state to state. As for your comment about every defendent being viewed as liars in court, how do you explain the fact that so many people have the charges dropped in court, or go to trial and eventually found innocent? Stick to what you know, and remain silent about what you dont know.
If the North Carolina tale is true, that is completely insane and every alcoholic that can't control themselves should be moving there as a safe haven.
That is also ONE state. You said most. To think I didn't mention that I know the opposite to be true in Florida, Illinois and New Hampshire because three isn't even close to "most."
Mike Wazowski
09-16-08, 10:10
This is so laughable. I have posted reports about different places I have been. A few mongers later posted here, and in PM that they took my advice and expierenced the same things that I did. You also suggest that I need more posts to gain credibility. Now it's time for you to do the math. You have been a member for just over 4 years and have 139 posts. I have been a member for only 3 months and have 56 posts. At this rate, I will probably surpass your 4 year total by New Years. If anyone has a plate of jelly do-nuts in front of them, it is you my friend. My intent was not to bash you or anyone else. I enjoy reading everyones reports. Just don't assume you are a expert in law because you took a government class in college.
Exactly. I post when I have something to say. You post almost daily. I never suggested that you needed more posts to gain credibility. I'm saying that your sheer number of posts in relation to the short time you've been on the board, combined with some very mis-informative posts, RE: prostitution and law enforcement, suggests an agenda of some sort.
No where have I claimed to be an expert in law. You, on the other hand, have made many statements about law that are 180 degrees from the truth.
Funny how your only defense to my statements is to "re-interpret" them to suit your needs and present straw man arguments. Why, it sounds almost exactly like what the police do when they need to prove their case! Interesting, huh?
My comment about government class was alluding to learning about our "fair" legal system and how wonderful it is... On paper. Then one graduates and lives in reality and sees how abused the system is.
Point is you continue to present this idea that the cops have to work too hard to make arrests for prostitution, will avoid it if they can and would never "risk their jobs" to outright lie - which in the area this board pertains to is completely untrue.
Hillsborough, Pinellas and Pasco counties put a whole lot of effort into making easy prostitution arrests. I can recall of exactly zero of those arrests coming with solid evidence.
You claimed that in most states one can't be arrested for drunk driving unless the police witness the person driving. Again, for the area this board pertains to, this is not true. Your one example is for ONE state that is a long day's drive from here.
Sorry, Speed, you either have an agenda for spreading mis-information or you are just truly very, very naive.
Stop trying so hard to defend yourself, Speed.
Every day it seems I login hoping like hell that some saint will report "OSAKA is BACK!" But instead I have to read two guys going back and forth like a bunch of fucking children.
Is there any chance for the sake of those of us who prefer to see information about chicks dishing out pussy, that you guys SHUT THE FUCK UP?
Now on to the report.
I went to Osaka and saw mina again. She was on vacation but is now back. Anyone want to take a wild fuckin guess where she went on vacation?
Hint: New York. New York must be some massage ho's official retreat or something. Try it, next time you hear a massagy ho is on vacation, ask if they went to New York. Anyway, same deal, nice TS, nice massagy, nice HJ with Tit play. Nice c's. No chance at more though from what I have found.
We were in the big room mid hallway. I could still smell the lingering sweet aroma of Tina's pooter and hear the echoes of her moaning while I bang her ass and 4 finger drill Miko all at the same time. Then through them 60 and have them dress me while naked walk me to the door and whisper in my ear "we cant wait choo give you a good fucky again vey soon!"
Whale Hunter
09-16-08, 16:55
If you get to see Tina, you will see the difference. The two times I have been with Lucy simply turned me off. Maybe she was having a bad day. She just seemed angry and I have seen her have a very unprofessional outburst and yelling match with another of the women there.I managed to pull a groin muscle the other day, or was it that I needed a groin muscle pulled? Anyway, off to my favorite place I go and Lucy was the only one available. I was ready to turn around and walk out when when she went all docile and sweet on me and promised a good massage. No need to tell you guys the routine.
I asked for it hard, and hard I got. Yes, she was good.
She isn't anywhere near as sexy or smooth as Tina can be, but she can really give you a hard massage if that is what you are looking for. Better than Nana on all accounts. So yeah, I was wrong. She made up for the previous two times and she is back on my 'will do' list.
Member #5237
09-16-08, 19:53
Exactly. I post when I have something to say. You post almost daily. I never suggested that you needed more posts to gain credibility. I'm saying that your sheer number of posts in relation to the short time you've been on the board, combined with some very mis-informative posts, RE: prostitution and law enforcement, suggests an agenda of some sort.Hillsborough, Pinellas and Pasco counties put a whole lot of effort into making easy prostitution arrests. I can recall of exactly zero of those arrests coming with solid evidence.
You claimed that in most states one can't be arrested for drunk driving unless the police witness the person driving. Again, for the area this board pertains to, this is not true. Your one example is for ONE state that is a long day's drive from here.
This is so laughable I can't pass it up. I have no agenda. I just enjoy sharing my 25 years of expierence with other people who share my love for this hobby. You claim that Hillsborough, Pinellas and Pasco counties put alot of effort into making easy prostitution arrests, none of which has solid evidence. We all read the stories in the paper when these girls get busted. Very rarely will all the details be given for one of several reasons: 1) how much space is a newspaper going to give all the information. There are other things happening in our world and in reality, these arrests are of little importance as compared to the war we are fighting, our slumping economy, etc. 2) most newspapers tend to to keep out alot of sexual info simply because it is a family publication and any kid could easily read it. 3) as with alot of criminal cases, the police and prosecutors office will not release to the public all of the evidence they have until the case gets to trial. Which leads to me my next thought. You either have no life and have a perverse desire to read the actual arrest reports (which contain more info then the booking info) or, you are in law enforcement yourself in some capacity and you follow these cases through the court system. You jumped on me for making the comment "in most states one can't be arrested for drunk driving unless the police witness the person driving" yet you claimed based on your expierence with 3 other states that this was not true in any state. Are there more states like NC. Maybe yes, maybe no. I honestly don't know and neither do you. In closing let me say I have wasted enough time on this subject and I am moving on. If you feel the need to get the last word in, so be it. The past is over with. I look forward to reading everyones reports (even yours).
Maya is a late 40's Korean from Chicago, she was working at Yokohama about a year ago.
She got into a fight with Connie and KoKo and ended up at Japanese Spa for a short while, but she doesn't get along with Cindy there. She soon found a boyfriend and moved in with him and dropped out of the business temporarily.
I later heard a rumor that she was working at Oxygen. Not sure about that.
Oxygen does have a Maya but she's not the same one.
Is Maya still around Tampa?
Anyone know?
Auntie Annie
09-17-08, 09:01
Was in town from Orlando yesterday and have been lurking on the Tampa site for the past few days in anticipation of my visit. I used to live over there and was a regular at Yoshiko about 10 years ago. Those were the days. To this day, I have never seen girls as good looking as back then. Not to mention everything you wanted was on the table for the taking.
My, how those days have become the distant past. I chose Nagoya, as I knoew I would only be over here for the day, and had to choose the best all around place I could find. That seemed to mean that Nagoya was the safe pick. I came in, and met a VERY average looking lady with longer hair and a worn face. I did not get her name, but got the impression she may run the place as the mamasan as well. She brought me in, and made some off-putting comment that she may not trust me since I said I had not been there before, as though you must be LEO if you go to a place for the 1st time.
I paid for the hour, and she told me we would do the massage first and then the shower. Sounded good to me as I really didn't need the shower, having come from a work meeting, and it only being around lunchtime.
She asked how I like my massage, and I told her "hard to start, soft at the end", she began by walking on my back, but wasn't putting any real pressure. The massage was lack luster from the start, and after she removed the sheet from walking on my back, she began to rub a bit slower and softer, but her hands were rough and she was still going at breakneck pace, hardly very sensual and certainly not accomplishing anything other than annoying me since it was clear I could have been spending my money better elsewhere at that very moment.
She asked me to turn over after about 20 minutes, and immediately acknowledged my buddy. She asked if there was anything else I wanted massaged, so I pointed her in the right direction. Pretty lack luster there as well. HE with no enthusiasm whatsoever, on her part and mine. She wiped me down, and gave me the shower and I was on my way.
She did put my shoes on for me, which was nice. But that was about it. I tipped the usual $40 and was on my way back home, pretty disappointed at the whole experience. I think I'd be hard pressed to go back there, especially given the competition, which is a dime a dozen on Kennedy anyway.
Anyone that would be willing to point me in the right direction for my next visit is welcome to PM me, or keep it public here on the forum. Big fat 3/10 IMHO.
Mike Wazowski
09-17-08, 10:43
This is so laughable I can't pass it up. I have no agenda. I just enjoy sharing my 25 years of expierence with other people who share my love for this hobby. You claim that Hillsborough, Pinellas and Pasco counties put alot of effort into making easy prostitution arrests, none of which has solid evidence. We all read the stories in the paper when these girls get busted. Very rarely will all the details be given for one of several reasons: 1) how much space is a newspaper going to give all the information. There are other things happening in our world and in reality, these arrests are of little importance as compared to the war we are fighting, our slumping economy, etc. 2) most newspapers tend to to keep out alot of sexual info simply because it is a family publication and any kid could easily read it. 3) as with alot of criminal cases, the police and prosecutors office will not release to the public all of the evidence they have until the case gets to trial. Which leads to me my next thought. You either have no life and have a perverse desire to read the actual arrest reports (which contain more info then the booking info) or, you are in law enforcement yourself in some capacity and you follow these cases through the court system. You jumped on me for making the comment "in most states one can't be arrested for drunk driving unless the police witness the person driving" yet you claimed based on your expierence with 3 other states that this was not true in any state. Are there more states like NC. Maybe yes, maybe no. I honestly don't know and neither do you. In closing let me say I have wasted enough time on this subject and I am moving on. If you feel the need to get the last word in, so be it. The past is over with. I look forward to reading everyones reports (even yours).
What is laughable is that you have nothing but strawman arguments when someone challenges you.
For the record, I never said that NO state has drunk driving laws as lenient as those you described. I said I knew of none. You pointed out one. Now you admit that you know of no others, specifically. Somehow you see that as more in your favor than my knowing of three, for certain, that are not so lenient.
As for my knowing about arrests, etc. Read through my posts. It's pretty obvious that I have some sort of connection to the local strip club business, be it through a friend, relative or even, possibly, myself.
I'm not looking for the last word, Speed. I just refuse to let someone's final statements toward something I've written be a response to something they PRETEND I've written because what they imagine is more supportive of their defense than what I actually said.
And an aside to FunFella, that is why I don't shut the fuck up in such matters. If someone posts complete mis-information that could be harmful to a forum member should he follow such mis-guided advice, I'm going to challenge it. If the person challenged can't accept that they are wrong or solidly defend their position and begins to argue, in their defense, with strawmen and arguments against words I never wrote, yeah, I'm going to point that out.
And a final aside to Speed, you've obviously never worked for a newspaper. I have. Your statements regarding editorial policy on reporting prostitution/sexually related stories is not based in any form of reality. And just for the record, when I worked for a newspaper, my beat was - get this - covering court trials and checking arrest reports! LOL!
Whale Hunter
09-17-08, 11:47
Maya is a late 40's Korean from Chicago, she was working at Yokohama about a year ago.
She got into a fight with Connie and KoKo and ended up at Japanese Spa for a short while, but she doesn't get along with Cindy there. She soon found a boyfriend and moved in with him and dropped out of the business temporarily.
I later heard a rumor that she was working at Oxygen. Not sure about that.
Oxygen does have a Maya but she's not the same one.
Is Maya still around Tampa? Anyone know?I don't think that there is a Maya at Oxygen any longer. There was one there for about a month. I put in a report about her back then. Haven't seen her there for a while now.
Clinton Bush
09-17-08, 12:58
Hey Mike,
Just curious, since you have the strip club connection.
* Where do the strip club girls hang out when they are not working? Other strip clubs? Other bars? Are there any local hangouts?
* Is it possible to meet them there for take out?
Cover charges and high pressure sometimes makes us spend a lot more in a strip club. And all of us have had the experience of paying a high cover and then settling for a woofer because they top girls weren't there. But if there was a bar hangout (especially with no cover) one could do a little recon and make a better pick.
Any info would be appreciated.
CB
It's pretty obvious that I have some sort of connection to the local strip club business, be it through a friend, relative or even, possibly, myself.
Mike Wazowski
09-17-08, 14:55
Hey Mike,
Just curious, since you have the strip club connection.
* Where do the strip club girls hang out when they are not working? Other strip clubs? Other bars? Are there any local hangouts?
* Is it possible to meet them there for take out?
Cover charges and high pressure sometimes makes us spend a lot more in a strip club. And all of us have had the experience of paying a high cover and then settling for a woofer because they top girls weren't there. But if there was a bar hangout (especially with no cover) one could do a little recon and make a better pick.
Any info would be appreciated.
CB
Well, different girls do different things. Truth be told, most of them are mothers who spend their off-hours taking care of the kids.
As for the ones who go out in the off hours, the sad news for a monger is that most all of them are going to be out with their boyfriends. Hard as it is to wrap the big head around - I know I was shocked once I got my peek behind the curtain - the concept of "stripper" and "single" is not a very common one.
On the Pinellas side of the bay (area clubs I'm most familiar with) you'll be able to find girls who will do take-out extras. Trouble is, most of them are going to have rates that would make most of the TER advertisers blush. Got to remember, on a slow week night, these girls are going home with $200-$300 for doing a few little-to-no-contact lap dances. If they are going to give up the goods, they are going to charge you a pretty penny.
Even sadder is, in most cases, they are going to look to cash and dash you, usually with the boyfriend for back-up.
Should that happen, your best bet is to go back to the club you found her at and "tell on her." Most all the Pinellas clubs try to run on the up and up and if you snitch her out to the manager she'll usually end up getting fired. Downside is, you'll probably get banned for admitting to looking for pay-for-play outside the bar with one of their girls.
Now, if you want some on-scene action, the one club I can assure you doesn't play by "the man's" rules is Vegas Showgirls on Gandy, by Derby Lane. Private dances there can get to Lipstixxx levels, albeit at higher prices.
One affordable take out option is always the fat girls. Why strip clubs employee some of the girls they do is beyond me. I've seen some big ones and by "big" I mean HUGE! The more portly girls don't even get the private dance money and are always whining come closing time. You can almost always scoop one of those for a c-note or less as long as she's come to grips with the fact that she's fat. Some of them that have recently gained the weight will still either think that take-out extras are beneath them or, if they do play, will still think they can command the high-dollar prices they did in their thinner years.
As for a place to find them when they are not working... Well, like I said, it's not like they all have the same likes when it comes to going out. You can hit, pretty much, any trendy bar aimed at the early twenty-somethings that lets in 18 and up and make a reasonable wager that a good chunk of the women you're seeing either are or have, at one time, been strippers. Again, most of them are going to be with boyfriends or, if they are looking to play, aren't going to be looking for someone more than a few years older than them.
Best place for an old guy to find a stripper who likes old guys is in the club she works in. It's easy to tell. If it's more than 90 minutes before closing, she'll approach you while the teeny-boppers will avoid you like the plague. Most of them aren't scrambling for dance money until the end of the night. Most of them waste the early hours looking for someone they enjoy hanging out with, hoping he'll toss her a couple hundred and she can avoid the hunt for money.
But, like I said, in those early hours, strippers gravitate toward what they find attractive in a man. If you're over 35 and a young hot one is on you at 10:00 PM, you just might get lucky and score yourself some free ass if you know how to work a stripper over time.
And that's the most valuable piece of information I can give you, regarding strippers. While most of them aren't going to play for pay and most aren't single, if you can play a girl right, getting a few dances from her everytime you visit and completely keeping your hands to yourself, you win. After a while, she'll blur the line between customer and friend and, if she's single, you can probably ask her out on something that sounds like a real date and end the night doing the deed. Even if she's not single, if she thinks you're a possible upgrade on her boyfriend, and just about any man with a job is an upgrade on a stripper's boyfriend, she'll pretend to go to work one night and really meet up with you for the date. That one will be more tricky to get the ass but if you work her up enough during the date, she's more than likely going to be willing to stop by your place or get a room.
Just don't fall in love. She's not leaving the jobless boyfriend and she's not going to see you again because you just reminded her how much she loves him.
Now, the hour or so after closing time, any 24 hour restaurant is filled with strippers. However, they are either there in a group and are going to do nothing other than crush the ego of any man that approaches them or there with a customer that she met that night at work. So that's pretty much a no-go.
That's just some off the top of my head rambling. If you have any more specific questions, ask away.
The best thing is, at least in the Pinellas clubs, they are all set up, business-wise, in a way that gets customers who know how to play it freebies in the ass department all the time. Like I said, spend some nights visiting a girl at work and she'll quickly blurr the line between customer and friend and there has not been a bar since Daddy-O's, circa 1991-1994, that knows how to teach the girls not to blurr that line.
Just remember, go several hours before closing (or shift change if your a day shift kind of guy) and you won't be able to pick her but she'll pick you. If you like the one that picks you, work on her as I described.
Member #4558
09-17-08, 17:59
Hey Mike,
Just curious, since you have the strip club connection.
* Where do the strip club girls hang out when they are not working? Other strip clubs? Other bars? Are there any local hangouts?
* Is it possible to meet them there for take out?
Any info would be appreciated.
CB
I use to frequent the Mons and 2001 some time back and I know that many of the dancers would head to the Bennigans just up the road. It was a close place to run up to and grab a drink. And as they could come and go as they please at the Mons, sometimes I would get invited to meet them there. The first threesome that I ever had started with two Mons dancers at that bar. But as that chain has now gone under, I don't know where they head to now.
Take out was easily available from the Tanga when it was open but alas, it is gone too. Take out from YS is available but it takes work. Follow the plan laid out by Mike. See the same dancer when you visit a club and let her get comfortable with you. Like Mike said, treat her with respect and don't be too grabby. I always ask before I touch and most dancers seem to like that. Over time she will get comfortable with you and then, who knows what may happen.
I endorse my friend Wook's comments. I would add that on a number of business trips to Tampa I would let the girl know I was from out of town, on an expense account, and staying in a nice place not too far away. I'd jot my telephone number down for them and tell her that if she was interested in getting together, it would be worth her while. Add that to some club attention and kindness and my phone would sometimes ring...
I loved reading Mike Wazowski, How to get a striper post below.
It's So true.
The Old guys like me will get a tear in our eyes reading it.
Makes you remember when we were younger, better looking and could just walk in, sit down, and have a fighting chance at going home with a girl and become the new boyfriend if we were not the boyfriend already.
All without any games. Well not Old Man games anyway.
Dam I'm Old. And sad now to. Shit, Mike Wazowski why the hell did you have to post that.
Look away. I think I'm Crying.
Great Post Mike.
We old guys still have hope and we mix it with Old Man Game for a Score once and a while. LOL
Dan Smith 69
09-18-08, 21:13
I loved reading Mike Wazowski, How to get a striper post below.
It's So true.
The Old guys like me will get a tear in our eyes reading it.
Makes you remember when we were younger, better looking and could just walk in, sit down, and have a fighting chance at going home with a girl and becoming the new boyfriend.
All without games. Well not Old Man games anyway.
Dam I'm Old. And sad now to. Shit, Mike Wazowski why the hell did you have to post that.
Look away. I think I'm Crying.
Great Post Mike and we old guys still have hope. And Old Man Game. LOLWhy anyone would want to date a stripper is beyond me...I'll drink with a stripper, hang with a stripper, dance with a stripper, Fuck a stripper-- but dating a stripper is way too much trouble/drama for my taste...
Having said that, I have found as I age that money usually trumps good looking young men with not only strippers but women in general. Of course, maybe I am better looking than I think I am --lol.......... Nah, it's the bank account...:)
Clinton Bush
09-19-08, 00:32
Why anyone would want to date a stripper is beyond me...I'll drink with a stripper, hang with a stripper, dance with a stripper, Fuck a stripper-- but dating a stripper is way too much trouble/drama for my taste...
Having said that, I have found as I age that money usually trumps good looking young men with not only strippers but women in general. Of course, maybe I am better looking than I think I am --lol.......... Nah, it's the bank account...:)
Of course, I'm talking about our wallets..... ; )
CB
ps - Mike W - thanks for sharing your expertise and helping this old dog learn to pick up a few new tricks.
Why anyone would want to date a stripper is beyond me...I'll drink with a stripper, hang with a stripper, dance with a stripper, Fuck a stripper-- but dating a stripper is way too much trouble/drama for my taste...
Having said that, I have found as I age that money usually trumps good looking young men with not only strippers but women in general. Of course, maybe I am better looking than I think I am --lol.......... Nah, it's the bank account...:)Hi Dan Smith 69,
I was not talking about any real love of dating just strippers.
"trouble/drama" I hear Ya Dan.
I was talking about how when I was young, somtimes just showing up was all it took.
With almost no money and in a shit car, I still had a shot.
Come to think of it, I also must of been much better looking than I remember, because it sounds like I was a big looser. LOL
When I said "Old Man Game" I ment with age we got better at talking with women and also have the better Job,Car,Money,,ect.ect that we might not of had when young. The stuff that can help an Old Man with his "Old Man Game". LOL.
So I am with you Dan Smith 69, The Old Man can beat the young man and get the girl.
And like Mike Wazowski said, there are women and I think alot of them, that do like older guys.
Member #5237
09-21-08, 17:13
Went to Nagoya Saturday. Hoped to see my usual provider Judy. Was told she was away for "months". Another monger told me she was leaving at the end of September because of her VISA. Hopefully she will be back, she is a real sweetie. Mamasan tells me, "I have nice girl for you". Before I fork over any money, I want to see her first. I am introduced to Yummi. She passes my visual test. Yummi is probably mid 40s, MILF material. Before the TS even starts, Yummi turns off the light in there so only the light from the hallway is providing light in the shower area. This was very nice. Yummi makes sure my dirt road is free of all debris. She runs her fingers there several times, each time going real deep to make sure I am spic-n-span. I turn over and she does my front. Laying there in a semi dark shower room and this MILF soaping me up, well my temperature begins to rise, among other things. She soaps up my tool and strokes my pipe several times with her soapy hand. She does this about 3 times. She dries me off and we go back to the room. It was not exactly a massage but rather she kept runing her hands very smoothly all over my back and legs and finishing up by dragging her finger nails all over my skin. I had a smile the entire time, it was very erotic. On the flip she continues to work her magic again eventually asking me with hand jestures if I wanted a HJ. I said yes. She was wearing what looked like a sun dress. She dropped her panties and lifeted the dress to reveal 2 natural and beautiful tits. Not too big, not too small. She proceedes to make me happy. Or should I say very happy. After the clean-up she helps me get dressed . My "hour" lasted about 40 minutes. Yummi was a little stand -offish during the massage as opposed to other providers who sometimes are a little more friendlier. Or maybe she was just tired as it was early evening and she had probably been working since early morning. I will defianetly pay Yummi another visit.
Anna In Tampa
09-21-08, 18:03
Hi Dan Smith 69,
I was not talking about any real love of dating just strippers.
"trouble/drama" I hear Ya Dan.
I was talking about how when I was young, somtimes just showing up was all it took.
With almost no money and in a shit car, I still had a shot.
Come to think of it, I also must of been much better looking than I remember, because it sounds like I was a big looser. LOL
When I said "Old Man Game" I ment with age we got better at talking with women and also have the better Job,Car,Money,,ect.ect that we might not of had when young. The stuff that can help an Old Man with his "Old Man Game". LOL.
So I am with you Dan Smith 69, The Old Man can beat the young man and get the girl.
And like Mike Wazowski said, there are women and I think alot of them, that do like older guys.Indeed there are for the simple fact that they know the game well and take their sweet time when with a woman and please her as well! They also dont bullshit with the price of services. Much love here for the older men!
Anna
Went to Yokahama on Dale Mabry and saw "May". Average looking late 30's, decent body. SoSo TS with not much attention on the good parts. SoSo on the massage as well but not bad. Mutual rubbing of her rear and thighs allowed, no problem. On the filp things changed a bit. Some nice attention soft rubbing around the boys. More intense rubbing allowed, hands roamed and only when inside the shorts did she wiggle away. Shirt up (nice natty B's) lot's of rubbing and sucking no problem. Went on for about 10-15 minutes all the while some nice light stroking. Then the oil and bam...clean up, massage the legs and feet and outta there .60 tip no counting just a Thank You.
Might be a repeat since the flip was one of the best in awhile. Just wish the TS and massage was a little better. I was going to try Tina but wasn't sure what is OK there with just curtains hanging in the doors. Does Tina allow any of the perks mentioned above?
Ditto. Well said Fun!
I never got to partake in the duo you describe but spent many happy nights with Anna, Miko, Penny (fav), and Yumy. Always a wonderful time.
Every day it seems I login hoping like hell that some saint will report "OSAKA is BACK!" But instead I have to read two guys going back and forth like a bunch of fucking children.
Is there any chance for the sake of those of us who prefer to see information about chicks dishing out pussy, that you guys SHUT THE FUCK UP?
Now on to the report.
I went to Osaka and saw mina again. She was on vacation but is now back. Anyone want to take a wild fuckin guess where she went on vacation?
Hint: New York. New York must be some massage ho's official retreat or something. Try it, next time you hear a massagy ho is on vacation, ask if they went to New York. Anyway, same deal, nice TS, nice massagy, nice HJ with Tit play. Nice c's. No chance at more though from what I have found.
We were in the big room mid hallway. I could still smell the lingering sweet aroma of Tina's pooter and hear the echoes of her moaning while I bang her ass and 4 finger drill Miko all at the same time. Then through them 60 and have them dress me while naked walk me to the door and whisper in my ear "we cant wait choo give you a good fucky again vey soon!"
Has anyone heard about recent busts or legal problems at Magic? I heard rumors only that there was a bust there recently.
Has anyone heard about recent busts or legal problems at Magic? I heard rumors only that there was a bust there recently.There was this a couple of weeks ago.
http://www2.tbo.com/content/2008/sep/10/police-masseuse-offered-undercover-officer-sex-act/
But they seem to be back in business.
Mike Wazowski
09-22-08, 19:30
When I said "Old Man Game" I ment with age we got better at talking with women and also have the better Job,Car,Money,,ect.ect that we might not of had when young. The stuff that can help an Old Man with his "Old Man Game". LOL.
So I am with you Dan Smith 69, The Old Man can beat the young man and get the girl.
And like Mike Wazowski said, there are women and I think alot of them, that do like older guys.
It's like the tale of two bucks standing on top of a hill, looking down at a bunch of young does, grazing in the valley below.
The young, three point buck said, "I'm going to run down there and fuck one of those fine does!"
The old ten point buck said, "You do that. I'm going to leisurely stroll down there and, eventually, fuck them all."
Clinton Bush
09-22-08, 20:06
I sent you the article -check your pm's.
I didn't post the article here as it includes photos of the AMP workers. I may have this wrong, but I believe I read somewhere that Jackson doesn't like us to post articles with pictures of those who were arrested. I can respect that. As this was published in the newspaper, a google search of "magic spa, arrest and tbo" finds the article for those wanting to see the details.
The increased LEO activity directed at Kennedy Blvd AMP's is certainly not welcome. Today I see the report here that one of my local favorites (Judy at Nagoya) is now gone. The Tampa AMP scene seems to be really going downhill fast.
I'll go to the Pinellas County AMPs. There are some very good ones there. Besides I really don't need/want LEO sharing my next table shower with me.
CB
Has anyone heard about recent busts or legal problems at Magic? I heard rumors only that there was a bust there recently.
SteelThunder
09-22-08, 20:16
It's like the tale of two bucks standing on top of a hill, looking down at a bunch of young does, grazing in the valley below.
The young, three point buck said, "I'm going to run down there and fuck one of those fine does!"
The old ten point buck said, "You do that. I'm going to leisurely stroll down there and, eventually, fuck them all."
That's a Classic!
I sent you the article -check your pm's.
CB
I got the info. Thanks very much.
Damn, I had found that one listed with some good reviews and was going to check it out next week on Biz. Thanks for the reports guys! Stay safe
Darkpassenger
09-26-08, 20:06
..is completely captured by that anecdote Mike! There is something to be said for "Seasoning" after all, thank providence.
It's like the tale of two bucks standing on top of a hill, looking down at a bunch of young does, grazing in the valley below.
The young, three point buck said, "I'm going to run down there and fuck one of those fine does!"
The old ten point buck said, "You do that. I'm going to leisurely stroll down there and, eventually, fuck them all."
Member #5237
09-26-08, 22:59
Damn, I had found that one listed with some good reviews and was going to check it out next week on Biz. Thanks for the reports guys! Stay safeMagic is still open. Went by there the other day and "OPEN" sign was turned on.
Tampahunter
09-30-08, 19:36
Anyone TOFTT at the "New" Gold Spa yet?
Cheesy Rider
09-30-08, 19:39
Anyone TOFTT at the "New" Gold Spa yet?
Yep, I was there a few weeks ago. The hot young ones were nowhere to be found. Same with the service (or lack of it).
Longnstrong1
10-01-08, 16:54
Anyone have experience with the woman advertising of late on CL as 'massage for gentlemen' in Riverview/Brandon area? She's an attractive blonde, mid-40's and stresses that she provides an 'almost total' body massage. It's that little qualifier that keeps me from venturing out to her place some afternoon. LOL. If anyone has, please share. Private if you'd prefer.
Been seeing them advertising, but no write up.
has anywone have any experience with them. I am about ready to make the trip.
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Cableguy01
10-02-08, 15:44
If you go to the St. Pete forums there are some reviews from earlier this year.
Been seeing them advertising, but no write up.
has anywone have any experience with them. I am about ready to make the trip.
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J Melbourne27
10-09-08, 02:11
I've been to Tijuana, Mexico City, and soon I'll be heading to Taiwan and then Rio De Janiro. From what I've seen you say about American Strippers, they are so....lame, and greedy! In Mexico, the millage you get for $100 is amazing!
Check out Adelitas in Tijuana, the girls there are AMAZING (no photos aloud at Adelitas), type in Adelitas in YouTube.com Even the GLIMPSES you get of the girls are aaaaMAAAAzING! Been there, done that. Make sure you Negotiate HARD!!! Don't let them push you around, Specify EXACTLY what will take place and KEEP your money in your hand until you are satisfied.
Here are some near Mexico City:
http://www.zonadivas.com/ambar_nw.html
http://www.comunidadescort.com/escorts/main.php?g2_itemId=3183
The girl's pictures are accurate and while they get huffy if you don't speak spanish, don't take their crap and offer them no more than $100, max! Don't ruin it for everyone else by making them expect $500 like these american bitches!
I can't believe some of the stories I've read about guy dropping $100, $200, $500 dollars and getting no joy! Wtf? ! Guys! Stop! (tampa strip clubs--- 2001 odyssey. The lamest space ship in the galaxy, or mons venoprivatearea)
If guys would stop giving these girls $300 for no joy, these girls would start acting right! I keep reading guys complain that the stripper wouldn't do 'such and such'. Well, if she didn't make $300 an hour for basically hopping around and looking pretty, she'd realize you have to actually work for the money.
Cmon guys, I know you want her to feel special, so you give her money, but that just makes her see you as a sucker. You want her to feel special about you? Make her work for her money, and tip her well every time, but not until you're satisfied with her 'performance'.
And if she doesn't perform, then don't tip. Hold the money in your hand until you are satisfied. If you completely disregard everything I say, please, just heed these words, keep all the money in your hand until you are satisfied.
"we've gotta train these girls right! It starts now! It starts tonight! "
-me (I'm quoting myself! LOL)
Well, different girls do different things. Truth be told, most of them are mothers who spend their off-hours taking care of the kids.
As for the ones who go out in the off hours, the sad news for a monger is that most all of them are going to be out with their boyfriends. Hard as it is to wrap the big head around - I know I was shocked once I got my peek behind the curtain - the concept of "stripper" and "single" is not a very common one.
On the Pinellas side of the bay (area clubs I'm most familiar with) you'll be able to find girls who will do take-out extras. Trouble is, most of them are going to have rates that would make most of the TER advertisers blush. Got to remember, on a slow week night, these girls are going home with $200-$300 for doing a few little-to-no-contact lap dances. If they are going to give up the goods, they are going to charge you a pretty penny.
Even sadder is, in most cases, they are going to look to cash and dash you, usually with the boyfriend for back-up.
Should that happen, your best bet is to go back to the club you found her at and "tell on her." Most all the Pinellas clubs try to run on the up and up and if you snitch her out to the manager she'll usually end up getting fired. Downside is, you'll probably get banned for admitting to looking for pay-for-play outside the bar with one of their girls.
Now, if you want some on-scene action, the one club I can assure you doesn't play by "the man's" rules is Vegas Showgirls on Gandy, by Derby Lane. Private dances there can get to Lipstixxx levels, albeit at higher prices.
One affordable take out option is always the fat girls. Why strip clubs employee some of the girls they do is beyond me. I've seen some big ones and by "big" I mean HUGE! The more portly girls don't even get the private dance money and are always whining come closing time. You can almost always scoop one of those for a c-note or less as long as she's come to grips with the fact that she's fat. Some of them that have recently gained the weight will still either think that take-out extras are beneath them or, if they do play, will still think they can command the high-dollar prices they did in their thinner years.
As for a place to find them when they are not working... Well, like I said, it's not like they all have the same likes when it comes to going out. You can hit, pretty much, any trendy bar aimed at the early twenty-somethings that lets in 18 and up and make a reasonable wager that a good chunk of the women you're seeing either are or have, at one time, been strippers. Again, most of them are going to be with boyfriends or, if they are looking to play, aren't going to be looking for someone more than a few years older than them.
Best place for an old guy to find a stripper who likes old guys is in the club she works in. It's easy to tell. If it's more than 90 minutes before closing, she'll approach you while the teeny-boppers will avoid you like the plague. Most of them aren't scrambling for dance money until the end of the night. Most of them waste the early hours looking for someone they enjoy hanging out with, hoping he'll toss her a couple hundred and she can avoid the hunt for money.
But, like I said, in those early hours, strippers gravitate toward what they find attractive in a man. If you're over 35 and a young hot one is on you at 10:00 PM, you just might get lucky and score yourself some free ass if you know how to work a stripper over time.
And that's the most valuable piece of information I can give you, regarding strippers. While most of them aren't going to play for pay and most aren't single, if you can play a girl right, getting a few dances from her everytime you visit and completely keeping your hands to yourself, you win. After a while, she'll blur the line between customer and friend and, if she's single, you can probably ask her out on something that sounds like a real date and end the night doing the deed. Even if she's not single, if she thinks you're a possible upgrade on her boyfriend, and just about any man with a job is an upgrade on a stripper's boyfriend, she'll pretend to go to work one night and really meet up with you for the date. That one will be more tricky to get the ass but if you work her up enough during the date, she's more than likely going to be willing to stop by your place or get a room.
Just don't fall in love. She's not leaving the jobless boyfriend and she's not going to see you again because you just reminded her how much she loves him.
Now, the hour or so after closing time, any 24 hour restaurant is filled with strippers. However, they are either there in a group and are going to do nothing other than crush the ego of any man that approaches them or there with a customer that she met that night at work. So that's pretty much a no-go.
That's just some off the top of my head rambling. If you have any more specific questions, ask away.
The best thing is, at least in the Pinellas clubs, they are all set up, business-wise, in a way that gets customers who know how to play it freebies in the ass department all the time. Like I said, spend some nights visiting a girl at work and she'll quickly blurr the line between customer and friend and there has not been a bar since Daddy-O's, circa 1991-1994, that knows how to teach the girls not to blurr that line.
Just remember, go several hours before closing (or shift change if your a day shift kind of guy) and you won't be able to pick her but she'll pick you. If you like the one that picks you, work on her as I described.
J Melbourne27
10-09-08, 02:26
Dropped by Dusk Til Dawn for 20 Minutes, just walked around inside inspecting the decor and the 'Selection'.
Got there are 5:30p, the selection consisted of a current or ex drug user and an older lady who probably could be pretty if she started running 1-2 miles a day (she had strange flab on her face? ). The manager assured me, two more girls who have 'Model' looks are on there way, and will show up at 6p. Waited 20 minutes until I wasn't in the mood to wait anymore and left. One girl DID show up at 5:50p (dropped off by her MOM? ) She was pretty, and she was NOT in ANY of their advertising. Manager DID say about 4 of the girls refused ANY photos, maybe college girls?
Place was pretty dirty, reminded me more of a Auto Garage than a 'Spa', but that doesn't really matter, the girls are what matters, right?
Will go back soon and report back.
PeterPiper52
10-09-08, 15:59
Dropped by Dusk Til Dawn for 20 Minutes, just walked around inside inspecting the decor and the 'Selection'.
Got there are 5:30p, the selection consisted of a current or ex drug user and an older lady who probably could be pretty if she started running 1-2 miles a day (she had strange flab on her face? ). The manager assured me, two more girls who have 'Model' looks are on there way, and will show up at 6p. Waited 20 minutes until I wasn't in the mood to wait anymore and left. One girl DID show up at 5:50p (dropped off by her MOM? ) She was pretty, and she was NOT in ANY of their advertising. Manager DID say about 4 of the girls refused ANY photos, maybe college girls?
Place was pretty dirty, reminded me more of a Auto Garage than a 'Spa', but that doesn't really matter, the girls are what matters, right?
Will go back soon and report back.Don't waste your time. It's nothing but a jack shack. Do a search and read all about it.
Mike Wazowski
10-09-08, 16:44
I've been to Tijuana, Mexico City, and soon I'll be heading to Taiwan and then Rio De Janiro. From what I've seen you say about American Strippers, they are so....lame, and greedy! In Mexico, the millage you get for $100 is amazing!
(snip)
Cmon guys, I know you want her to feel special, so you give her money, but that just makes her see you as a sucker. You want her to feel special about you? Make her work for her money, and tip her well every time, but not until you're satisfied with her 'performance'.
And if she doesn't perform, then don't tip. Hold the money in your hand until you are satisfied. If you completely disregard everything I say, please, just heed these words, keep all the money in your hand until you are satisfied.
"we've gotta train these girls right! It starts now! It starts tonight! "
-me (I'm quoting myself! LOL)
This is all great, in theory. However, Pinellas County and Hillsborough County Florida is a long way from Mexico.
The main reason you don't see a lot of inexpensive inside extras in the local clubs is because they all get watched HARD by LEO. Pinellas County, with all but three clubs in county jurisdiction, is on it even more than Tampa. Tampa at least goes in streaks, Pinellas County has undercovers in the clubs on a regular basis.
In fact, in all but a couple of the Pinellas clubs, if a person tries your suggested tactics the result will, in most cases, lead to the stripper going ape-shit about you to the security guys and the managers. If you withheld the money for the time you spent in the private dance area with her because she wouldn't put out, you'll have a couple of scenarios:
One: If you are a complete asshole to the security/management that confronts you on the issue, insisting that you are entitled to receive illegal services on the premisis, you'll have the police called on you and get arrested for theft of services and making the offer for prostitution. While you wait for the police to arrive, the security staff will give you a nice "hands on" lecture about your behavior. The police will not ask any questions about your injuries once the golden words, "I feared for the safety of my staff and customers," are spoken.
Two: If you just insist that you weren't satisfied and try to, quietly, get away, you'll probably get to drive home after taking your beating.
Three: You avoid either of the above by being very appologetic, calling it a misunderstanding, insisting that you weren't trying to do anything illegal, etc. - all while handing over the cash you owe for the time in the private dance area - and you'll simply be asked to leave for the night. Hell, if you grovel enough and offer to buy a few people drinks, you'll not even have to leave for the night but don't plan on any other dancers even getting near you once the one you pissed off tells them all about what happened.
So, again, take out in local clubs is possible but expensive. On site extras are rare and, again, expensive. Not to mention on site extras also run the added chance of getting caught, which will - in most clubs - lead to the dancer getting fired and the customer getting a "very hands on" escort to the parking lot, courtesy of the security staff.
R Consultant
10-09-08, 18:49
I think if you ride the tip train when you are out in these topless joints it takes you a little further. If I like a girl I will tip her well and ask her when shes working again and leave my business card so she remembers me. Then I will come in again- I dont rush nothing unless you get a good instinct with the girl.
Patience will get you where you want to go. Sure it will cost you a pretty penny but once you are getting an outside menu the payoff is great. Now she knows your a cool dude and you pay well. You will get true GFE as she doesnt want to mess up a good thing.
My best score from a topless was the Dominican chick, I sure miss her! She would call me up and invite me over- she had dinner and banged my brains out. She would dance and bang my brains out again. What a life I had.
That reminds me I need to find another one just like her. My method works for me but you dont always get instant gratification.
Happy Hunting..
This is all great, in theory. However, Pinellas County and Hillsborough County Florida is a long way from Mexico.
The main reason you don't see a lot of inexpensive inside extras in the local clubs is because they all get watched HARD by LEO. Pinellas County, with all but three clubs in county jurisdiction, is on it even more than Tampa. Tampa at least goes in streaks, Pinellas County has undercovers in the clubs on a regular basis.
In fact, in all but a couple of the Pinellas clubs, if a person tries your suggested tactics the result will, in most cases, lead to the stripper going ape-shit about you to the security guys and the managers. If you withheld the money for the time you spent in the private dance area with her because she wouldn't put out, you'll have a couple of scenarios:
One: If you are a complete asshole to the security/management that confronts you on the issue, insisting that you are entitled to receive illegal services on the premisis, you'll have the police called on you and get arrested for theft of services and making the offer for prostitution. While you wait for the police to arrive, the security staff will give you a nice "hands on" lecture about your behavior. The police will not ask any questions about your injuries once the golden words, "I feared for the safety of my staff and customers," are spoken.
Two: If you just insist that you weren't satisfied and try to, quietly, get away, you'll probably get to drive home after taking your beating.
Three: You avoid either of the above by being very appologetic, calling it a misunderstanding, insisting that you weren't trying to do anything illegal, etc. - all while handing over the cash you owe for the time in the private dance area - and you'll simply be asked to leave for the night. Hell, if you grovel enough and offer to buy a few people drinks, you'll not even have to leave for the night but don't plan on any other dancers even getting near you once the one you pissed off tells them all about what happened.
So, again, take out in local clubs is possible but expensive. On site extras are rare and, again, expensive. Not to mention on site extras also run the added chance of getting caught, which will - in most clubs - lead to the dancer getting fired and the customer getting a "very hands on" escort to the parking lot, courtesy of the security staff.
Chase Star
10-09-08, 23:29
I think you guys are really talking past each other, not really understanding where the other is coming from, coming from such different ends of this hobby.
Melbourne had 3 basic points. Admittedly, he framed them in a way that might seem to some braggadocious yet at the same time exploitive or inconsiderate of 3rd world women, However that doesn't complete invalidate those points.
1) The prices that can be had for women/strippers in some other countries make what some guys are willing to pay here seem absolutely absurd by comparison.
2) "Make her work for her money, and tip her well every time, but not until you're satisfied with her 'performance'."
3) "And if she doesn't perform, then don't tip. Hold the money in your hand until you are satisfied." which he re-emphasized - "keep all the money in your hand until you are satisfied."
His first point is absolutely true and you guys who haven't had the opportunity to try such a trip really owe it to yourselves to do so. It will totally change your perspective on the relative merits of what is available locally, as it clearly has changed Melbourne's. That said, what Mike said is also true. Prices may be a lot cheaper in Mexico, but that means little to us as long as we're stuck way over here in Florida and what works well there (or might work) does not necessarily apply so well here either.
I think you guys might have misread Melbourne's other points. He never said NOT to tip well. In fact, he said quite the contrary - "tip her well every time". OTOH, he did qualify that with only TIPPING at the END and only IF you're satisfied with her performance.
The part about paying at the end does still apply here, though it is not as universally available. Usually one pays for erotic services at the end, whether it be for a lap dance or a CL escort (hence the expression "we don't pay for sex, we pay them to leave"). Sometimes, we're not given much choice in the matter, such as with AMP sessions and some escorts and sometimes the subsequent service works out and sometimes it doesn't. But in any case, we don't generally provide any EXTRA TIP until we know how happy we are with the services.
And that brings us to the 2nd part of Melbourne's approach TIP ONLY if you're satisfied with her performance. Notice the word TIP. I don't think Melbourne was talking about the girl's BASE charge, at least I hope not, unless the girl completely failed to provide even what she promised to provide when she agreed to go back with you.
And that is why the theory Melbourne advanced doesn't work so well in the US strip club environment, as Mike pointed out. In Tijuana, one can spell out in advance with the girl everything one expects to get from her. If she goes beyond that, you tip well. If she just meets it, you pay as agreed. If she comes up short, you work out some sort of settlement based on how far short she came up (on your terms but fair). And if she doesn't even make it out of the gate, you spin her around and send her packing with absolutely nothing (which shouldn't happen if you've done your homework at the bar).
The US is very different. Prostitution is illegal, so you're rarely going to get a stripper (or escort) spell out much if anything in advance - only the most vague of promises. You agree to pay a pre-determined amount for lap dances and HOPE that you'll get something more. If you don't then don't TIP like Melbourne recommends (unless you work out some other deal once you get her in theback). I sincerely hope he's not suggesting you don't even pay the lap dance fee as I'm sure one of the scenarios Mike laid out would be the likely and undesirable result.
The main reason you don't see a lot of inexpensive inside extras in the local clubs is because they all get watched HARD by LEO. ....
So, again, take out in local clubs is possible but expensive. On site extras are rare and, again, expensive. ...LEO is ANOTHER reason why you don't see a lot of inexpensive inside extras in the local clubs but I don't know if it is the MAIN one. What Melbourne said is also very true. When these stripper girls can get stacks of dollar bills thrown at them for just shaking their money makers on stage and stacks of twenty dollar bills just for brushing their asses on some horny guy's fully clothed lap out back (with security all around), why would they want to go off somewhere with some stranger and let him stick his dick in them for anything like what he can much more easily get a CL girl to agree to (let alone Tijuana rates).
On-site extras may not be common, but I wouldn't exactly describe them as rare IF you know where to go. And the risk of getting caught by LEO or just by club security may be ONE reason why it costs as much as usually does in the back, but I have to think all the money the girls can make WITHOUT providing any extras (like Melbourne is talking about) has to be ANOTHER very important reason.
And that brings me to my own final and main point of this post. If take-out (or on-site) is so expensive as both Mike and R Consultant admit, is it really so worth it? Melbourne is saying (the way I understand it) "pay for what you get but don't pay for nothing" while the rest of you seem to be saying "spread enough money around the strip joints and maybe some of it will eventually pay off". I think you can guess which view I subscribe to.
I think if you ride the tip train when you are out in these topless joints it takes you a little further. If I like a girl I will tip her well and ask her when shes working again and leave my business card so she remembers me. Then I will come in again- I dont rush nothing unless you get a good instinct with the girl.
Patience will get you where you want to go. Sure it will cost you a pretty penny but once you are getting an outside menu the payoff is great. Now she knows your a cool dude and you pay well. You will get true GFE as she doesnt want to mess up a good thing.
... My method works for me but you dont always get instant gratification.Let me get this straight. "Riding the tip train" sounds like you're suggesting being pretty generous in your tips. And for what? Not for anything you get on that visit, but for the possibility you might be able to persuade her to do something more on a future visit. And then you're not even talking about persuading her into anything real the next time you visit, just more heavy tipping and probably expensive dances in the back where you might or might not get even more expensive extra on-site services. And don't think many of these girls don't understand this and know how to hold out the prospect of undefined future delights as a means to get you to continue to lay out more and more dough (and secretly laugh at you for your gullibility and desperation).
Eventually, if you're patient (and your money holds out), you might get "where you want to go", but there is certainly no guarantee and even then "it will cost you a pretty penny". And what is the possible payoff? Is she really with you because you're a "cool dude" or is it mainly because you "pay well" (and thus will be expected to continue to pay well for that outside menu). Sure you may get GFE but is it TRUE GFE (whatever that is)? After all, GFE does stand for Girlfriend FANTASY Experience. Your whole "relationship" was predicated on your financial generosity and because of you that will be what always defines it.
There seem to many much cheaper, easier and more effective ways to go about getting your rocks off, even in just this area.
Mike Wazowski
10-10-08, 03:42
I think if you ride the tip train when you are out in these topless joints it takes you a little further. If I like a girl I will tip her well and ask her when shes working again and leave my business card so she remembers me. Then I will come in again- I dont rush nothing unless you get a good instinct with the girl.
Patience will get you where you want to go. Sure it will cost you a pretty penny but once you are getting an outside menu the payoff is great. Now she knows your a cool dude and you pay well. You will get true GFE as she doesnt want to mess up a good thing.
My best score from a topless was the Dominican chick, I sure miss her! She would call me up and invite me over- she had dinner and banged my brains out. She would dance and bang my brains out again. What a life I had.
That reminds me I need to find another one just like her. My method works for me but you dont always get instant gratification.
Happy Hunting..
R Consultant has it dead-on, here. His method is almost sure-fire if the stripper-type is your interest. And the set up is usually, come see me at the club and buy dances and the outside playtime is on the house... With the occasional need to pay her phone bill or such. LOL!
Quick service tip for all the massage lovers in my stomping grounds of Tampa. I happened to be in West Palm Beach today and saw Jennifer from theraputic services on CL, just search on her name. She offers sweedish massage for $45 and her ad says she is cool with sensual massage too, so I tried her. Sensual is $95 for an hour and $30 for another half hour. I got non-stop happiness for 90 minutes, as good as my ATF in Tampa, Tina @ Oxygen. So, if you ever find yourself in WPB, Jennifer is a good choice.
Cheers!!
J Melbourne27
10-17-08, 14:58
Yeah, I know all about the 'regulations' made up by overweight soccer moms and unhappily married politicians who have mistresses on the side.
I'm not saying I'm going to refuse to pay for something that has been agreed to in advance, I'm saying I'm going to negotiate like hell. I've never run into a girl who promised one thing and then delivered another. When I do, I'll get up, walk straight to the management, ask for my door fee back, and then leave. Whether I get the money back or not is a mute point, the girls don't want to get in trouble and that will DEFINITELY get them in trouble, because management KNOWS that I will tell EVERYONE what happened.
The way you're describing the scenario is very different than the way it should be handled. The managers and bouncers ALWAYS have their hands in the cookie jar (one of the reasons they work there) and they're not oblivious, they're just like you and me except they're around the girls more. Some of the cool one will even hook you up once they know you're not LEO. (Fucking LEO, our economy is faltering and they're STILL WASTING our FUCKING MONEY on stupid SHIT like undercover strip club work. Who the HELL does it help! ? Child Porn, ok, but strip clubs? ! )
If the management isn't sympathetic, then screw it, I'll leave. In FACT! I actually saw an altercation of this type take place at a club I was at once. The man was angry because the stripper promised the world and delivered air. The manager asked for the Strip Clubs portion of the tip, then apologized, glared at the stripper, and told the guy to have a nice night.
The gestapo/mafia scenario you're referring to seems unrealistic and unprofessional.
This is all great, in theory. However, Pinellas County and Hillsborough County Florida is a long way from Mexico.
The main reason you don't see a lot of inexpensive inside extras in the local clubs is because they all get watched HARD by LEO. Pinellas County, with all but three clubs in county jurisdiction, is on it even more than Tampa. Tampa at least goes in streaks, Pinellas County has undercovers in the clubs on a regular basis.
In fact, in all but a couple of the Pinellas clubs, if a person tries your suggested tactics the result will, in most cases, lead to the stripper going ape-shit about you to the security guys and the managers. If you withheld the money for the time you spent in the private dance area with her because she wouldn't put out, you'll have a couple of scenarios:
One: If you are a complete asshole to the security/management that confronts you on the issue, insisting that you are entitled to receive illegal services on the premises, you'll have the police called on you and get arrested for theft of services and making the offer for prostitution. While you wait for the police to arrive, the security staff will give you a nice "hands on" lecture about your behavior. The police will not ask any questions about your injuries once the golden words, "I feared for the safety of my staff and customers," are spoken.
Two: If you just insist that you weren't satisfied and try to, quietly, get away, you'll probably get to drive home after taking your beating.
Three: You avoid either of the above by being very apologetic, calling it a misunderstanding, insisting that you weren't trying to do anything illegal, etc. - all while handing over the cash you owe for the time in the private dance area - and you'll simply be asked to leave for the night. Hell, if you grovel enough and offer to buy a few people drinks, you'll not even have to leave for the night but don't plan on any other dancers even getting near you once the one you pissed off tells them all about what happened.
So, again, take out in local clubs is possible but expensive. On site extras are rare and, again, expensive. Not to mention on site extras also run the added chance of getting caught, which will - in most clubs - lead to the dancer getting fired and the customer getting a "very hands on" escort to the parking lot, courtesy of the security staff.
J Melbourne27
10-17-08, 15:09
Most of the strippers I've interacted with in this manner want guys who are RICH. I've had pointed conversations with strippers about this and most of them agree, if they meet a guy in the club, they'll date him outside if he's successful and wealthy.
What's a little strange though, is that the guys they CHOOSE that they meet OUTSIDE the club are usually LOSERS who they have to support with their stripper money, which then begins the endless downward spiral.
I'm really interested to read and SEE your results. If I was dating a stripper you can bet your @$$ I'd have hundreds(!) of pictures of us together, not just naked ones, cute ones too.
Please by all means, I'd like to read your success stories and your techniques. (Although I'll probably stick with Escorts)
R Consultant has it dead-on, here. His method is almost sure-fire if the stripper-type is your interest. And the set up is usually, come see me at the club and buy dances and the outside playtime is on the house... With the occasional need to pay her phone bill or such. LOL!
Tampa Monger
10-17-08, 21:24
What's a little strange though, is that the guys they CHOOSE that they meet OUTSIDE the club are usually LOSERS who they have to support with their stripper money, which then begins the endless downward spiral.
This isn't strange at all. If you read Neil Strauss' The Game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Game:_Penetrating_the_Secret_Society_of_Pickup_Artists), you'll find out how attraction simply isn't rational. Some guys - and most are good-looking, but not all - have a natural talent for attracting women. The rich, successful guys who have this talent rarely date strippers and other crazies. Guess what kind of guys that leaves?
Mike Wazowski
10-18-08, 04:47
Most of the strippers I've interacted with in this manner want guys who are RICH. I've had pointed conversations with strippers about this and most of them agree, if they meet a guy in the club, they'll date him outside if he's successful and wealthy.
What's a little strange though, is that the guys they CHOOSE that they meet OUTSIDE the club are usually LOSERS who they have to support with their stripper money, which then begins the endless downward spiral.
I'm really interested to read and SEE your results. If I was dating a stripper you can bet your @$$ I'd have hundreds(!) of pictures of us together, not just naked ones, cute ones too.
Please by all means, I'd like to read your success stories and your techniques. (Although I'll probably stick with Escorts)
I have not dated strippers and I'd never follow my own advice on this subject. For that matter, I paid for some private dances over twenty years ago, when I was young and wanted to see what strip clubs were all about. Never did it again.
People asked how to go about it and I told them based upon two decades of close observation of the industry. I see what works for those who choose to go this route.
Chase Star
10-18-08, 10:24
I don't date them. I rent them (and then only if I can get a reasonable rate). In fact, if no direct payment were involved I might be more worried that I was being dragged into a boyfriend/girlfriend dating relationship that I didn't really want to get involved with.
The odds of forming a decent relationship with a stripper (other than simply a sexual one) are very low. I won't say that all strippers are messed up in the head or only looking for a buck, but enough of them are that it just ain't worth pursuing anything with them other than sexual gratification for yourself at some mutually agreeable rate of pay. Strippers present a sexual fantasy. They may act like they might be available for something more as part of that fantasy (e.g. alluding to the possibility of getting together outside the club or lying about whether they have a boyfriend) but it is nearly always just part of their means of making more money. If you can't understand that or leave it at that then you shouldn't even be in there. If you want to date someone and have a normal relationship then find a normal girl.
Mike Wazowski
10-18-08, 18:10
I don't date them. I rent them (and then only if I can get a reasonable rate)..LOL! A favorite saying of one of my friends is: If it flies, floats or fucks. RENT IT!
ZippedDown
10-21-08, 21:50
Can anyone tell me if there are extras offered at Bare Assets?
Longnstrong1
10-22-08, 10:24
Has anyone seen this woman lately. I've noticed a change in her ads over the past few weeks and am curious as to whether she's had a bit of a reality check with her 'almost total body' rubs. PM me if you'd prefer.
Thanks
Chase Star
10-22-08, 11:54
There used to be. But, according to what I've heard, recently a couple of dancers were fired for spreading clap to some customers (at least one of whom found out about it when he spread it to his wife). Since then the official policy has been zero tolerance for anything extra. There may be a few dancers still taking the chance, but they risk dismissal if they get caught (and management IS watching). Besides, their risk is really the least of it when you consider what happened to those other customers.
Member #4558
10-22-08, 18:05
There used to be. But, according to what I've heard, recently a couple of dancers were fired for spreading clap to some customers (at least one of whom found out about it when he spread it to his wife). Since then the official policy has been zero tolerance for anything extra. There may be a few dancers still taking the chance, but they risk dismissal if they get caught (and management IS watching). Besides, their risk is really the least of it when you consider what happened to those other customers.
Was this in response to the Bare Assets question? You did not mention the club where those two lovelies were fired from.
Chase Star
10-22-08, 19:02
Yes, Wook, that was Bare Assets. Unfortunately I didn't get the names of the dancers. If anyone here has been in the back there recently, gone bareback and has any doubts if they may have been exposed, they might want to get themselves tested. Of course, BJ's may be one thing but IMHO it is never a good idea to have uncovered f/s with a sex worker. Also, while this particular incident may have occurred at Bare Assets, the same advice applies to bareback activity at any of these type places.
Clinton Bush
10-22-08, 23:36
Yes, Wook, that was Bare Assets. Unfortunately I didn't get the names of the dancers. If anyone here has been in the back there recently, gone bareback and has any doubts if they may have been exposed, they might want to get themselves tested. Of course, BJ's may be one thing but IMHO it is never a good idea to have uncovered f/s with a sex worker. Also, while this particular incident may have occurred at Bare Assets, the same advice applies to bareback activity at any of these type places.
So the answer to Zippeddown's original question "Can anyone tell me if there are extras offered at Bare Assets?" is YES, and those extra's include the clap.
CB
Member #5237
10-23-08, 03:52
Yes, Wook, that was Bare Assets. Unfortunately I didn't get the names of the dancers. If anyone here has been in the back there recently, gone bareback and has any doubts if they may have been exposed, they might want to get themselves tested. Of course, BJ's may be one thing but IMHO it is never a good idea to have uncovered f/s with a sex worker. Also, while this particular incident may have occurred at Bare Assets, the same advice applies to bareback activity at any of these type places.While the risk is low, it is possible to contract all STDs including AIDS thru bareback BJs. Next time you get the urge to get some uncovered oral relief, just think how many other guys had their dicks in that girls mouth and shot a load down her throat. I hate a covered BJ as much as the next guy, but my health, and life, mean more to me then a few minutes of pleasure. Do a little simple math. Just say a provider is giving bareback head to 5 guys a day, 5 days a week, every week of the month. That`s 1200 guys a year. Sooner or later you will cross paths with a girl who has some sort of disease and we all know there is no cure for any of them. Have fun living with that for the rest of your life and explaining that to your current or future significant other.
ZippedDown
10-23-08, 18:25
Yes, I do know there is always a risk, Just had been there and had seen a couple strippers I really enjoyed. Was possibly going to meet them outside. Thanks for the heads up guys!
Amp Middleman
10-23-08, 19:09
I don't date them. I rent them (and then only if I can get a reasonable rate). In fact, if no direct payment were involved I might be more worried that I was being dragged into a boyfriend/girlfriend dating relationship that I didn't really want to get involved with.
The odds of forming a decent relationship with a stripper (other than simply a sexual one) are very low. I won't say that all strippers are messed up in the head or only looking for a buck, but enough of them are that it just ain't worth pursuing anything with them other than sexual gratification for yourself at some mutually agreeable rate of pay. Strippers present a sexual fantasy. They may act like they might be available for something more as part of that fantasy (e.g. alluding to the possibility of getting together outside the club or lying about whether they have a boyfriend) but it is nearly always just part of their means of making more money. If you can't understand that or leave it at that then you shouldn't even be in there. If you want to date someone and have a normal relationship then find a normal girl.
I may disagree slightly with that because I have in the recent past formed relationships with a couple girls and mama's of different AMP's in my city. It does have it's very nice perks but they also call me at the drop of a dime whenever anything is needed for them because the girls come and go so frequently in the city they don't know there way around. Paybacks are nice with that. Anyways just my 2 cents worth.
J Melbourne27
10-23-08, 19:22
The Clap is curable, so that's not that terrible and were these guys getting FS no Cover in the champagne room???
According to the American Social Health Association (ASHA):
"Oral sex is not a common cause of infection with this bacteria. Chlamydia is less likely to be transmitted during oral sex because the bacteria that cause chlamydia prefer to target the genital area rather than the throat. This is why it is unlikely for chlamydia to be transmitted from mouth-to-penis and penis-to-mouth contact, although it is still possible. It is even less likely for transmission to take place from vagina-to-mouth or anus-to-mouth contact. Transmission is not known to occur from mouth-to-vagina and mouth to anus contact."
And as far as Bare Assets not offering any 'extras', in my opinion (no offense please) any guy who goes into a bar just to give money to a girl for dancing around naked is ruining it for the rest of us.
Imagine if You or I could walk into a bar, dance around naked for a few hours, and walk out with THOU$AND$$$$. I'd quit my job TODAY!!! I mean RIGHT NOW! I'm talking to a stripper who tells me that her best week ever she made $17,000 UNTAXABLE in one week.
There used to be. But, according to what I've heard, recently a couple of dancers were fired for spreading clap to some customers (at least one of whom found out about it when he spread it to his wife). Since then the official policy has been zero tolerance for anything extra. There may be a few dancers still taking the chance, but they risk dismissal if they get caught (and management IS watching). Besides, their risk is really the least of it when you consider what happened to those other customers.
ZippedDown
10-25-08, 22:28
Always faithful, I always leave a happy man.. although YMMV
J Melbourne27
10-27-08, 00:32
Surprisingly, I just got offered a job as a stripper. $500 an hour. O_O I'm contemplating all the ramifications.
The Clap is curable, so that's not that terrible and were these guys getting FS no Cover in the champagne room???
According to the American Social Health Association (ASHA):
"Oral sex is not a common cause of infection with this bacteria. Chlamydia is less likely to be transmitted during oral sex because the bacteria that cause chlamydia prefer to target the genital area rather than the throat. This is why it is unlikely for chlamydia to be transmitted from mouth-to-penis and penis-to-mouth contact, although it is still possible. It is even less likely for transmission to take place from vagina-to-mouth or anus-to-mouth contact. Transmission is not known to occur from mouth-to-vagina and mouth to anus contact."
And as far as Bare Assets not offering any 'extras', in my opinion (no offense please) any guy who goes into a bar just to give money to a girl for dancing around naked is ruining it for the rest of us.
Imagine if You or I could walk into a bar, dance around naked for a few hours, and walk out with THOU$AND$$$$. I'd quit my job TODAY!!! I mean RIGHT NOW! I'm talking to a stripper who tells me that her best week ever she made $17,000 UNTAXABLE in one week.
Chase Star
10-27-08, 12:58
The Clap is curable, so that's not that terrible and were these guys getting FS no Cover in the champagne room???
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And as far as Bare Assets not offering any 'extras', in my opinion (no offense please) any guy who goes into a bar just to give money to a girl for dancing around naked is ruining it for the rest of us.
Imagine if You or I could walk into a bar, dance around naked for a few hours, and walk out with THOU$AND$$$$. I'd quit my job TODAY!!! I mean RIGHT NOW! I'm talking to a stripper who tells me that her best week ever she made $17,000 UNTAXABLE in one week.JM,
A few things. First, the clap maybe curable but that doesn't mean anyone really wants to get it. At the best, it means having to take a bunch of antibiotics and swearing off of sex until it clears up. At worst, you don't realize you've caught it soon enough and spread it to someone else, which can be terribly embarassing to say the least. And, at the very worst, what your wife does to you if you bring it home to her is NOT that "curable" at all. BTW, I'm sure these guys most likely got it going bareback (foolish them) but that doesn't mean it still isn't possible to catch it from an infected partner even if you use a cover (which can break, leak, be improperly put on, etc.)
Secondly, your suggestion that going into a strip bar that did not offer any "extras" was a kind of a waste of time and money was really my whole point. So why should I take offense from that? OTOH, I would not go quite as far as your statement. Some guys go to these places just to be entertained by the dancers on the stage or perhaps a relatively innocent lap dance tease. As long as they aren't foolishly throwing out the type of money that the rest of us pay for full-service escorts (or even if they are) what is the real harm? It is their money. For my part, I think it is pretty silly even to shell out the type of money other guys do for rushed service in a back room whether there are extras or not, when the same money can get them an hour or more with escorts in a much more comfortable and private incall or outcall location. But again, different strokes for different folks, and I don't see how that "ruining" anything for anyone else.
Thirdly, while I agree that some of these dancers make a ridiculous amount for what they do, I think you grossly overstate the case, when you suggest that they all make "THOUSANDS" of dollars for a few hours work. Perhaps there are some dancers at top end clubs in larger cities that routinely do that without providing any extras, but I'm fairly certain they're a very tiny minority of all dancers. I think far more common, particularly these days, if a dancer around here ever makes that much in one night, a) it is only during the busiest nights of the week and not all the other nights she's there, and b) she makes only a tiny fraction of that on the stage, the bulk coming from extras performed in the back rooms.
That stripper who tells you that her best week ever she made $17,000 in one week, did she told you how long ago or how common that was? I'm betting it was not recently. Did she tell you where she did that? I'm betting it was not at a club like BA let alone the many other sleazier strip bars like the Library Lounge or the Seven Seas. Did she tell you how much of that alleged $17K came from tips on the stage and how much came from performing favors in the back? I'm betting it wasn't just for looking pretty on stage. And finally how much can we even really believe of what any stripper tells us?
I think the vast majority of these dancers are now discovering that without providing any extras in the back (either by choice or by managment edict) and factoring in both the prime hours when they still might make a reasonable return along with the slack time during the rest of the week when relatively few guys come into the club (and factoring in "all the ramifications"), their weekly take comes down much closer to what they'd make at a regular job than what you'd expect. Of course, not all the way down or they wouldn't still be working there, but certainly much closer than if they actually did something to earn that extra money beyond just providing a mere tease.
I think the vast majority of these dancers are now discovering that without providing any extras in the back (either by choice or by managment edict) and factoring in both the prime hours when they still might make a reasonable return along with the slack time during the rest of the week when relatively few guys come into the club (and factoring in "all the ramifications"), their weekly take comes down much closer to what they'd make at a regular job than what you'd expect. Of course, not all the way down or they wouldn't still be working there, but certainly much closer than if they actually did something to earn that extra money beyond just providing a mere tease.
I find your observation very accurate. Got a call yesterday from a dancer who occasionally provides in and out of the club extras. She was actually going in to train for a waitress gig at a local restaurant (in addition to her former outside activities).
Another dancer who I visit with outside of her club (especially since she moved to 2001) bemoaned the fact that while there were people in the club last weekend, no one was spending money.
It's major culture shock, even for the extras girls.
Based on recent history here, it's highly likely YMMV. Saw Sue there. Pretty good TS, massage ranged from time to time from fair to very good. Speaks southern drawl quite well and is accomodating. Gave standard $.2 and was told later that hers was $.4. Said to bring that next time. I won't but I guess they are having the same economic hard times we all are and are trying to make up for lost trade. Will probably return but my commitment is against increasing the standard.
J Melbourne27
11-01-08, 16:28
Chase,
You can talk to her about her earnings on The Ultimate Strip Club List:
http://www.tuscl.com/
Go under "Discussion" and then "Ask a Dancer." She lives in Texas and there is a lot of Oil Money out there (Bastards...). She's told me the Oil Execs spend money like it's water...
You're probably right about strippers not making that much money in Tampa Right Now, but a Hot/Smart stripper typically makes about $100k+ a year.
I'm sure Escorts make more, and Strippers who Escort are probably at the top of the income Spectrum making the most. There are a few forums and websites you can go to to ask strippers and escorts themselves, here's one of a professional Escort:
http://www.peridotash.com
When I start my Doctorate in Psychology I'm going to delve into the realm of 'Black Market Sex Work', interviewing johns and janes, crunching numbers, and interviewing strippers, to see just how much money is spent and earned and what is mostly done with the money.
I'm hoping that I won't find that most of the money is spent on drugs...I'm HOPING that I'll find that most of the money is just spent on nice houses, nice cars, and clothes.
JM,
A few things. First, the clap maybe curable but that doesn't mean anyone really wants to get it. At the best, it means having to take a bunch of antibiotics and swearing off of sex until it clears up. At worst, you don't realize you've caught it soon enough and spread it to someone else, which can be terribly embarassing to say the least. And, at the very worst, what your wife does to you if you bring it home to her is NOT that "curable" at all. BTW, I'm sure these guys most likely got it going bareback (foolish them) but that doesn't mean it still isn't possible to catch it from an infected partner even if you use a cover (which can break, leak, be improperly put on, etc.)
Secondly, your suggestion that going into a strip bar that did not offer any "extras" was a kind of a waste of time and money was really my whole point. So why should I take offense from that? OTOH, I would not go quite as far as your statement. Some guys go to these places just to be entertained by the dancers on the stage or perhaps a relatively innocent lap dance tease. As long as they aren't foolishly throwing out the type of money that the rest of us pay for full-service escorts (or even if they are) what is the real harm? It is their money. For my part, I think it is pretty silly even to shell out the type of money other guys do for rushed service in a back room whether there are extras or not, when the same money can get them an hour or more with escorts in a much more comfortable and private incall or outcall location. But again, different strokes for different folks, and I don't see how that "ruining" anything for anyone else.
Thirdly, while I agree that some of these dancers make a ridiculous amount for what they do, I think you grossly overstate the case, when you suggest that they all make "THOUSANDS" of dollars for a few hours work. Perhaps there are some dancers at top end clubs in larger cities that routinely do that without providing any extras, but I'm fairly certain they're a very tiny minority of all dancers. I think far more common, particularly these days, if a dancer around here ever makes that much in one night, a) it is only during the busiest nights of the week and not all the other nights she's there, and b) she makes only a tiny fraction of that on the stage, the bulk coming from extras performed in the back rooms.
That stripper who tells you that her best week ever she made $17,000 in one week, did she told you how long ago or how common that was? I'm betting it was not recently. Did she tell you where she did that? I'm betting it was not at a club like BA let alone the many other sleazier strip bars like the Library Lounge or the Seven Seas. Did she tell you how much of that alleged $17K came from tips on the stage and how much came from performing favors in the back? I'm betting it wasn't just for looking pretty on stage. And finally how much can we even really believe of what any stripper tells us?
I think the vast majority of these dancers are now discovering that without providing any extras in the back (either by choice or by managment edict) and factoring in both the prime hours when they still might make a reasonable return along with the slack time during the rest of the week when relatively few guys come into the club (and factoring in "all the ramifications"), their weekly take comes down much closer to what they'd make at a regular job than what you'd expect. Of course, not all the way down or they wouldn't still be working there, but certainly much closer than if they actually did something to earn that extra money beyond just providing a mere tease.
Prof Self Help
11-01-08, 22:57
I find WINDOW-SHOPPING or READING SEXUALLY DESCRIPTIVE POSTS and then jacking off at home to be the most pleasurable.
Spending more than 5-10 dollars on tips in a strip club is utter WASTE OF MONEY. Unless one can jack off at home fantasizing some girl, visit to strip clubs is completely useless.
If I go to strip clubs, it is more for the ENVIRONMENT - later on I can place ( in my fantasy of course) any woman of my liking in that environment and have a fantastic happy ending at home.
Bottom line - SEEING/READING about women in certain environments/situations makes me real horny and makes my masturbation as pleasurable as real sex - without any front-end or back-end costs whatsoever.
Mike Wazowski
11-02-08, 03:53
Chase,
You're probably right about strippers not making that much money in Tampa Right Now, but a Hot/Smart stripper typically makes about $100k+ a year.
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That's not even close to accurate for the Tampa Bay area, for sure. Not even in good times.
The ones that make a daily take that would come up to that figure in a five day week are only working two days a week, if not one, because that's enough to cover their needs.
And the dancers making that on a regular basis are NOT typical dancers.
A typical dancer in this area will pull down about $100-$200 a day. Most COULD make much more but will stop the minute they hit the dollar amount they need to make it until the next day they plan to work.
Member #5237
11-02-08, 04:39
Based on recent history here, it's highly likely YMMV. Saw Sue there. Pretty good TS, massage ranged from time to time from fair to very good. Speaks southern drawl quite well and is accomodating. Gave standard $.2 and was told later that hers was $.4. Said to bring that next time. I won't but I guess they are having the same economic hard times we all are and are trying to make up for lost trade. Will probably return but my commitment is against increasing the standard.Magic used to be my favorite spot. Always received FS. I now have another location that has become my favorite, but Magic is always an option when everyone else is either busy or closed.
Whale Hunter
11-02-08, 10:23
Visited Oxygen for my usual adjustment.
Bebe greeted me at the door. What a looker! small tight body, but her face! Now she is pretty. I didn't even hesitate going for the ride.
All I can say is... even better than Tina.
Tina is on vacation till Wednesday and I have no idea if Bebe is a temp replacement or a new perm employee. Lucy and Nana are still there.
A++
I find WINDOW-SHOPPING or READING SEXUALLY DESCRIPTIVE POSTS and then jacking off at home to be the most pleasurable...
Unless one can jack off at home fantasizing some girl, visit to strip clubs is completely useless...Bottom line - SEEING/READING about women in certain environments/situations makes me real horny and makes my masturbation as pleasurable as real sex - without any front-end or back-end costs whatsoever.
Are you sure you BELONG here?
PeterPiper52
11-02-08, 14:30
I find your observation very accurate. Got a call yesterday from a dancer who occasionally provides in and out of the club extras. She was actually going in to train for a waitress gig at a local restaurant (in addition to her former outside activities).
Another dancer who I visit with outside of her club (especially since she moved to 2001) bemoaned the fact that while there were people in the club last weekend, no one was spending money.
It's major culture shock, even for the extras girls.I know of a girl in Pasco who told me that she wasn't making any money until she started "sucking and fucking"(her words). I've found that in most of the Pasco clubs, extras can be had, and not too expensive either. Matter of fact, it's cheaper for me to go to a strip club than an AMP.
Clinton Bush
11-02-08, 15:49
Visited Oxygen for my usual adjustment.
Bebe greeted me at the door. What a looker! small tight body, but her face! Now she is pretty. I didn't even hesitate going for the ride.
All I can say is... even better than Tina.
Tina is on vacation till Wednesday and I have no idea if Bebe is a temp replacement or a new perm employee. Lucy and Nana are still there.
A++
The one who had FS good reviews (until some allegations of missing money) and left Aloha about 3 months ago? Just wondering.
CB
Clinton Bush
11-02-08, 15:54
I find WINDOW-SHOPPING or READING SEXUALLY DESCRIPTIVE POSTS and then jacking off at home to be the most pleasurable.
Spending more than 5-10 dollars on tips in a strip club is utter WASTE OF MONEY. Unless one can jack off at home fantasizing some girl, visit to strip clubs is completely useless.
If I go to strip clubs, it is more for the ENVIRONMENT - later on I can place ( in my fantasy of course) any woman of my liking in that environment and have a fantastic happy ending at home.
Bottom line - SEEING/READING about women in certain environments/situations makes me real horny and makes my masturbation as pleasurable as real sex - without any front-end or back-end costs whatsoever.
That plus visiting a really sleezy strip club like 7 Seas or the Library may be your thing. The adult theatre scene is also pretty sleezy from what I read here.
CB
R Consultant
11-02-08, 17:14
There were many stories about Bebe between missing money and her shorting mamasan. Even her going through clients pockets. But then I remember hearing she might be back. Bebe was an attractive and a well rounded provider. She never ripped off anyone I knew. So if shes still around I would say find out for sure if its her.
Happy Hunting..
The one who had FS good reviews (until some allegations of missing money) and left Aloha about 3 months ago? Just wondering.
CB
Member #5237
11-02-08, 19:42
There were many stories about Bebe between missing money and her shorting mamasan. Even her going through clients pockets. But then I remember hearing she might be back. Bebe was an attractive and a well rounded provider. She never ripped off anyone I knew. So if shes still around I would say find out for sure if its her.
Happy Hunting..I had the pleasure of meeting Bebe when she worked at Aloha. I had a very relaxing visit with her. Although I take my valuables with me into the table shower area, she never left my side during my visit so there was no opportunity for her to go thru my pants pockets. I only read some rumors on here, no firsthand expierence. If it`s the same girl I would visit her again, just use the same caution you would with any new provider.
J Melbourne27
11-02-08, 19:56
Is Oxygen an Asian MP?
Also, where is it? If it's not too far away from me maybe I'll drop in and report back here.
Visited Oxygen for my usual adjustment.
Bebe greeted me at the door. What a looker! small tight body, but her face! Now she is pretty. I didn't even hesitate going for the ride.
All I can say is... even better than Tina.
Tina is on vacation till Wednesday and I have no idea if Bebe is a temp replacement or a new perm employee. Lucy and Nana are still there.
A++
Whale Hunter
11-02-08, 20:28
There were many stories about Bebe between missing money and her shorting mamasan. Even her going through clients pockets. But then I remember hearing she might be back. Bebe was an attractive and a well rounded provider. She never ripped off anyone I knew. So if shes still around I would say find out for sure if its her.
Happy Hunting..
The one who had FS good reviews (until some allegations of missing money) and left Aloha about 3 months ago? Just wondering.
CBI have no idea guys :( Havent been here long enough.
Nothing missing on me, but then she is never alone in the room with out you...so not much chance of her going through your stuff. I have learned from reading from you guys that you never take anything in there to begin with.. (I pay attention.. lol)
As I said, if Tina does it for you. This was as good and better. Felt like I was in there for over the hour and she took it slow. Real slow! Ran her hair all over.
Will need a cold shower just for revisiting that mental path *shiver*.
Be safe.
Tampa Monger
11-03-08, 11:51
There were many stories about Bebe between missing money and her shorting mamasan. Even her going through clients pockets. But then I remember hearing she might be back. Bebe was an attractive and a well rounded provider. She never ripped off anyone I knew. So if shes still around I would say find out for sure if its her.
Happy Hunting..
Bebe was hot. Saw her once and it was good. (Would have been great if there'd been a BBBJ, but she's all covered.) Great ass for an Asian chick. I ate her ass and her pussy. Very nice.
Is Tina still at osaka?
Had not been in probably a year.
Whale Hunter
11-03-08, 12:55
Is Oxygen an Asian MP?
Also, where is it? If it's not too far away from me maybe I'll drop in and report back here.Yes it is an AMP.
It located on W. Kennedy. If I am allowed to insert a link here... then its the house in the middle. Zoom out from there to figure it out. Just east of Dale mabry.
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=&ie=UTF8&t=h&ll=27.944512,-82.500545&spn=0.000807,0.001238&z=20
I have made a few reports on the place and so have many others.. its a great massage place with a HE. There are no extras on the menu and personally I hope it stays that way. This way I feel its a safe place and don't have to worry about getting busted.
The place is clean and neat. The woman treat you VERY well and I always leave happy.
Clinton Bush
11-03-08, 16:07
Is Oxygen an Asian MP?
Also, where is it? If it's not too far away from me maybe I'll drop in and report back here.
Oxygen is located on the South side of Kennedy Blvd within a few blocks of McDill. It's in a nice 2 story building. Tina is the resident massage queen there and while the massage is excellent, the menu is somewhat limited. She does a few unique things however that I have not seen elsewhere. Lets just say she has incredible foot control.
Personally, I prefer going to Pinellas County because more is on the menu. But if you like an excellent massage with limited extras, then Tina is the one to see.
CB
Clinton Bush
11-03-08, 16:10
So far I have not been there and I have read mixed reports. I am thinking about giving it a shot But lineups change at AMPS more often than at a Rays game. Who currently is the one to see there for the most fun?
You can pm me if you like.
Thanks
CB
Well, as Tina @ Oxygen is one of my ATF's and BeBe of the old Sunshine was one rockin' babe, I just had to go see for myself if this BeBe that Whale Hunter ran into is the same one from Sunshine. Sadly, I was not able to verify her identity as BeBe was not working today, despite what I was told on the telephone before driving down there.
But... Tina was there, I had to wait for 30 minutes, then had perhaps the best rub I've ever had the pleasure to receive from her. Towards the end, she called one of the other girls upstairs and they both took all matters into both hands.
I'm home now, I'll sleep well tonight!
As always, Tina rocks and rocks and rocks.
Cheers!!
Visited Oxygen for my usual adjustment.
Bebe greeted me at the door. What a looker! small tight body, but her face! Now she is pretty. I didn't even hesitate going for the ride.
All I can say is... even better than Tina.
Tina is on vacation till Wednesday and I have no idea if Bebe is a temp replacement or a new perm employee. Lucy and Nana are still there.
A++
R Consultant
11-04-08, 02:10
When you visit a AMP you don't take any thing you don't want to depart with. Not saying all of the ladies are crooks it just lessen the odds. If your doing a double trust me from my experience you can be had so easily it just ruins the experience all together.
So go in there with what you are willing to spend and a car key. In the past I even left my car keys in the hide a lock on my car. So I could leave if I had to.
When you think about all the variables its just plain aggravating at times with all the do's and dont's you have to look out for.
Happy Hunting..
I have no idea guys :( Havent been here long enough.
Nothing missing on me, but then she is never alone in the room with out you...so not much chance of her going through your stuff. I have learned from reading from you guys that you never take anything in there to begin with.. (I pay attention.. lol)
As I said, if Tina does it for you. This was as good and better. Felt like I was in there for over the hour and she took it slow. Real slow! Ran her hair all over.
Will need a cold shower just for revisiting that mental path *shiver*.
Be safe.
Whale Hunter
11-04-08, 12:39
Man! that had to be sweet!
I don't know how you guys pull it off. Two girls, foot tricks... life is good.
Must be what separates you Senior Members from us Regulars.
I do know what I'll be asking Tina to do next time ;)
I wonder why B told me T was on vacation till Wednesday tho..
Well, as Tina @ Oxygen is one of my ATF's and BeBe of the old Sunshine was one rockin' babe, I just had to go see for myself if this BeBe that Whale Hunter ran into is the same one from Sunshine. Sadly, I was not able to verify her identity as BeBe was not working today, despite what I was told on the telephone before driving down there.
But... Tina was there, I had to wait for 30 minutes, then had perhaps the best rub I've ever had the pleasure to receive from her. Towards the end, she called one of the other girls upstairs and they both took all matters into both hands.
I'm home now, I'll sleep well tonight!
As always, Tina rocks and rocks and rocks.
Cheers!!
J Melbourne27
11-05-08, 13:42
Is Oxygen in Tampa or St. Pete?
I think I found Oxygen, but it said something about Nails and other stuff, so I didn't go in.
Man! that had to be sweet!
I don't know how you guys pull it off. Two girls, foot tricks... life is good.
Must be what separates you Senior Members from us Regulars.
I do know what I'll be asking Tina to do next time ;)
I wonder why B told me T was on vacation till Wednesday tho..
R Consultant
11-05-08, 19:20
Here are the directions and its located in Tampa.
Oxygen is located on the South side of Kennedy Blvd within a few blocks of McDill. It's in a nice 2 story building.
Happy Hunting and Play Safe..
Is Oxygen in Tampa or St. Pete?
I think I found Oxygen, but it said something about Nails and other stuff, so I didn't go in.
Whale Hunter
11-05-08, 21:08
Is Oxygen in Tampa or St. Pete?
I think I found Oxygen, but it said something about Nails and other stuff, so I didn't go in.Facing the building, left door is the nails and stuff... right door --> Bliss
It's in Tampa and I think I sent a very accurate google map link.
Is Tina at Oxygen the same Tina that was at Osaka?
Clinton Bush
11-06-08, 19:56
Is Tina at Oxygen the same Tina that was at Osaka?
You can check this thread but the current Osaka is not like the old Osaka
And Oxygen is not like the old Osaka, but is better than the current Osaka.
Hope that all made sense
CB
Travelrr 433
11-07-08, 11:36
Ah very nice indeed, the door to the right is Bliss!
I ran into a few fellow mongers coming in the door after my visit.I drove down from Atlanta last night and my back was a wreck and after my visit I was a new man! Gotta love a woman who puts your socks and buttons your shirts after taking care of her man.My fucking wife could take lessons!
Travelrr
Vaginas999
11-07-08, 21:22
Header; Still Alive and Kicking
I went to the "Y" AMP on Monday night. Mon. , Tues. , Wed. , being my main mongering nights as all you young lads are out with your paychecks on Fri. And Sat. Night making the Tampa mongering scene more like an assembly line. I cannot believe how much some of these girls phone's ring. Walked in and told the girl I wanted to see all the little ones lined up in my room so I could select which one would serve me. I chose the one who greeted me at the door because she was the youngest and best looking of the three working. Her name was Cindy.
I did my typical AMP thing with the no shower, no steam, I don't leave the room where my wallet is routine, I'm creature of habit. Had her lick my balls for a warm up after giving her. 6 for the room. She played the typical I'm a little Korean AMP girl who speaks no English but gives excellent massage routine. Upon flip she massaged Mr. Happy with her feet and said "whatta yo wanna do? " To which I replied "everything, including your tight little shitter". She said "Evaryting you have $. 8", I said "no, but I have $. 4", she says "okay", the whole time pretending she didn't hear/ understand my analcentric ramblings. She leaves and then comes back instantly with a tissues, you all know whats inside.
Excellent session, tight mouth, tight cooch. I decided to test her English as I normally do with these AMP girls just for fun. So, I picked her up and placed her mish on the massage table. As I am robo drilling this nice little Korean I looked up at the ceiling and muttered, " I will now inseminate your naughty little Korean vagina. " To which she looked me dead in the face and said with absolutely no Korean accent (almost like I would imagine an Ohio/ midwest accent) "what did you just say". To which I quickly thought a sec and said " oh me no thinky you espeaky Engrish Cindy. This got me a dirty look and a no tip fo me, no tip fo me? I said sure to her; your young, your sexy, (she has incredible boobs and a nice little ass too), your service was good, and I feel like a new man. I slapped a nice Jackson down on the table, let her dress me and was on my way.
John Kelly
11-08-08, 09:21
Vaginas999,
That was too funny. I guess the shitter was out, then? Lol
Whale Hunter
11-08-08, 12:02
Has any one ever thought of making a list of links or a public google map showing the locations of all these places? It could become a reference to all.
I would not mind putting some time into it.. I just don't know where they are my self.
But check out these cool links.
Oxygen:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=&ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=c&cbll=27.94486,-82.500555&panoid=kI8hCKl2NQzUFZPRXom9Nw&cbp=1,192.19143054461142,,0,5&ll=27.9451,-82.500548&spn=0.000775,0.00108&z=20
Nagoya:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=spa&sll=27.943005,-82.488484&sspn=0.023885,0.034547&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.952862,-82.494493&spn=0.023882,0.034547&t=h&z=15&cbll=27.94473,-82.497644&panoid=9ZNngp1eOdmEGp-fKnzYsA&cbp=1,182.21716644957394,,0,5
Yoshiko:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=massage&sll=27.945114,-82.509395&sspn=0.003099,0.004318&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.94873,-82.514942&spn=0.012397,0.017273&t=h&z=16&cbll=27.944906,-82.51526&panoid=nPY-ld1U5AoaI61thGXsJA&cbp=1,15.727646631111838,,0,5
Magic Spa:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=massage&sll=27.945114,-82.509395&sspn=0.003099,0.004318&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.948748,-82.519598&spn=0.012397,0.017273&t=h&z=16&cbll=27.944924,-82.521162&panoid=JGH48lehIvQH2Y9TBxnrkg&cbp=1,347.5365864138869,,1,-1.1098557499368131
Japanese Spa:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=japanise+spa&sll=27.951649,-82.517967&sspn=0.049585,0.069094&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.946275,-82.509695&spn=0.006198,0.008637&t=h&z=17&cbll=27.944365,-82.509899&panoid=diXSxNbFfhyACeg-iX9tcA&cbp=1,112.89783647217638,,1,-0.09119402078643452
Some one feel free to grab this list and add to it.
Header; Still Alive and Kicking
Excellent session, tight mouth, tight cooch. I decided to test her English as I normally do with these AMP girls just for fun. So, I picked her up and placed her mish on the massage table. As I am robo drilling this nice little Korean I looked up at the ceiling and muttered, " I will now inseminate your naughty little Korean vagina. " To which she looked me dead in the face and said with absolutely no Korean accent (almost like I would imagine an Ohio/ midwest accent) "what did you just say". To which I quickly thought a sec and said " oh me no thinky you espeaky Engrish Cindy. This got me a dirty look and a no tip fo me, no tip fo me? I said sure to her; your young, your sexy, (she has incredible boobs and a nice little ass too), your service was good, and I feel like a new man. I slapped a nice Jackson down on the table, let her dress me and was on my way.
That's one of the funniest things I have read in a long time. I'll have to give that a try - no speaky da engrish. At least she wasn't named Ruby (Loopy?).
Clinton Bush
11-09-08, 21:33
Has any one ever thought of making a list of links or a public google map showing the locations of all these places? It could become a reference to all.
I would not mind putting some time into it.. I just don't know where they are my self.
But check out these cool links.
Oxygen:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=&ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=c&cbll=27.94486,-82.500555&panoid=kI8hCKl2NQzUFZPRXom9Nw&cbp=1,192.19143054461142,,0,5&ll=27.9451,-82.500548&spn=0.000775,0.00108&z=20
Nagoya:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=spa&sll=27.943005,-82.488484&sspn=0.023885,0.034547&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.952862,-82.494493&spn=0.023882,0.034547&t=h&z=15&cbll=27.94473,-82.497644&panoid=9ZNngp1eOdmEGp-fKnzYsA&cbp=1,182.21716644957394,,0,5
Yoshiko:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=massage&sll=27.945114,-82.509395&sspn=0.003099,0.004318&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.94873,-82.514942&spn=0.012397,0.017273&t=h&z=16&cbll=27.944906,-82.51526&panoid=nPY-ld1U5AoaI61thGXsJA&cbp=1,15.727646631111838,,0,5
Magic Spa:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=massage&sll=27.945114,-82.509395&sspn=0.003099,0.004318&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.948748,-82.519598&spn=0.012397,0.017273&t=h&z=16&cbll=27.944924,-82.521162&panoid=JGH48lehIvQH2Y9TBxnrkg&cbp=1,347.5365864138869,,1,-1.1098557499368131
Japanese Spa:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=japanise+spa&sll=27.951649,-82.517967&sspn=0.049585,0.069094&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.946275,-82.509695&spn=0.006198,0.008637&t=h&z=17&cbll=27.944365,-82.509899&panoid=diXSxNbFfhyACeg-iX9tcA&cbp=1,112.89783647217638,,1,-0.09119402078643452
Some one feel free to grab this list and add to it.
But here is
Osaka Spa:
1205 E Hillsborough Ave, Tampa, FL
She has a big nose and a scar on her right tit. She got a nice ass and only about five feet two, a hundred pounds with some nice abs. She been moving around and I want to try her again. Anybody see her?
SmackThatAss
11-10-08, 07:38
Most Korean girls can speak really good english. I will have to try that one myself to see what kind of response I get. I just spit my OJ laughing at your post.
Header; Still Alive and Kicking
I went to the "Y" AMP on Monday night. Mon. , Tues. , Wed. , being my main mongering nights as all you young lads are out with your paychecks on Fri. And Sat. Night making the Tampa mongering scene more like an assembly line. I cannot believe how much some of these girls phone's ring. Walked in and told the girl I wanted to see all the little ones lined up in my room so I could select which one would serve me. I chose the one who greeted me at the door because she was the youngest and best looking of the three working. Her name was Cindy.
I did my typical AMP thing with the no shower, no steam, I don't leave the room where my wallet is routine, I'm creature of habit. Had her lick my balls for a warm up after giving her. 6 for the room. She played the typical I'm a little Korean AMP girl who speaks no English but gives excellent massage routine. Upon flip she massaged Mr. Happy with her feet and said "whatta yo wanna do? " To which I replied "everything, including your tight little shitter". She said "Evaryting you have $. 8", I said "no, but I have $. 4", she says "okay", the whole time pretending she didn't hear/ understand my analcentric ramblings. She leaves and then comes back instantly with a tissues, you all know whats inside.
Excellent session, tight mouth, tight cooch. I decided to test her English as I normally do with these AMP girls just for fun. So, I picked her up and placed her mish on the massage table. As I am robo drilling this nice little Korean I looked up at the ceiling and muttered, " I will now inseminate your naughty little Korean vagina. " To which she looked me dead in the face and said with absolutely no Korean accent (almost like I would imagine an Ohio/ midwest accent) "what did you just say". To which I quickly thought a sec and said " oh me no thinky you espeaky Engrish Cindy. This got me a dirty look and a no tip fo me, no tip fo me? I said sure to her; your young, your sexy, (she has incredible boobs and a nice little ass too), your service was good, and I feel like a new man. I slapped a nice Jackson down on the table, let her dress me and was on my way.
But here is
Osaka Spa:
1205 E Hillsborough Ave, Tampa, FL
Seems like one could take a liesurely stroll down Kennedy and get their needs taken care of -- Kinda like a Pub Crawl?
Heres Osaka:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=1205+E+Hillsborough+Ave,+Tampa,+FL%E2%80%8E&sll=27.9451,-82.500548&sspn=0.000849,0.001207&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=28.008952,-82.446556&spn=0.054333,0.077248&t=h&z=14&cbll=27.996056,-82.446523&panoid=wJ6rjXdwdNgcYVuT-DzmrQ&cbp=1,184.47131741275876,,0,5
Seems like one could take a liesurely stroll down Kennedy and get their needs taken care of -- Kinda like a Pub Crawl?
At one time you could start at the east end at Bangkok, walk west, cross the street to the old Japanese Spa, continue west to Yoshiko, and just maybe have enough stamina for Magic. Then you could buy a few Red Bulls at Walgreens and start walking east...
But now-a-days, Bangkok is closed, Japanese Spa is now Oxygen, Yoshiko is over priced, and Magic has very mixed reviews.
Clinton Bush
11-10-08, 20:18
She has a big nose and a scar on her right tit. She got a nice ass and only about five feet two, a hundred pounds with some nice abs. She been moving around and I want to try her again. Anybody see her?
I haven't seen this girl, but if you provide more information, maybe someone else can help. A name perhaps? Someplace she has worked before?
CB
J Melbourne27
11-13-08, 03:41
Fantastic MAP POST! I'll def have to check one of these out!
Probably Oxygen! And I'll be sure to offer. 4 when she asks for. 8
In Tijuana the girls try to ask for. 20 when the normal Tijuana rate is around. 5 and less for regs.
Has any one ever thought of making a list of links or a public google map showing the locations of all these places? It could become a reference to all.
I would not mind putting some time into it.. I just don't know where they are my self.
But check out these cool links.
Oxygen:
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=&ie=UTF8&t=h&layer=c&cbll=27.94486,-82.500555&panoid=kI8hCKl2NQzUFZPRXom9Nw&cbp=1,192.19143054461142,,0,5&ll=27.9451,-82.500548&spn=0.000775,0.00108&z=20
Nagoya:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=spa&sll=27.943005,-82.488484&sspn=0.023885,0.034547&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.952862,-82.494493&spn=0.023882,0.034547&t=h&z=15&cbll=27.94473,-82.497644&panoid=9ZNngp1eOdmEGp-fKnzYsA&cbp=1,182.21716644957394,,0,5
Yoshiko:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=massage&sll=27.945114,-82.509395&sspn=0.003099,0.004318&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.94873,-82.514942&spn=0.012397,0.017273&t=h&z=16&cbll=27.944906,-82.51526&panoid=nPY-ld1U5AoaI61thGXsJA&cbp=1,15.727646631111838,,0,5
Magic Spa:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=massage&sll=27.945114,-82.509395&sspn=0.003099,0.004318&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.948748,-82.519598&spn=0.012397,0.017273&t=h&z=16&cbll=27.944924,-82.521162&panoid=JGH48lehIvQH2Y9TBxnrkg&cbp=1,347.5365864138869,,1,-1.1098557499368131
Japanese Spa:
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=japanise+spa&sll=27.951649,-82.517967&sspn=0.049585,0.069094&layer=c&ie=UTF8&ll=27.946275,-82.509695&spn=0.006198,0.008637&t=h&z=17&cbll=27.944365,-82.509899&panoid=diXSxNbFfhyACeg-iX9tcA&cbp=1,112.89783647217638,,1,-0.09119402078643452
Some one feel free to grab this list and add to it.
Whale Hunter
11-14-08, 09:59
Fantastic MAP POST! I'll def have to check one of these out!
Probably Oxygen! And I'll be sure to offer. 4 when she asks for. 8
In Tijuana the girls try to ask for. 20 when the normal Tijuana rate is around. 5 and less for regs.I can only wish you luck. It's been .8 at Oxygen since I moved to Tampa 18 months ago, but YMMV.
Just don't try it between 11:00 and 13:00. The place is packed with people on their lunch break and often they have to turn people away. Late at night some time before closing, maybe.
Good luck and let us know :) I can sure use the cut, but I'll still leave the girl .4 regardless.
Clinton Bush
11-15-08, 04:42
I can only wish you luck. It's been .8 at Oxygen since I moved to Tampa 18 months ago, but YMMV.
Just don't try it between 11:00 and 13:00. The place is packed with people on their lunch break and often they have to turn people away. Late at night some time before closing, maybe.
Good luck and let us know :) I can sure use the cut, but I'll still leave the girl .4 regardless.
They may have a half hour rate for .6 I don't know as I get the hour for .8. The standard is .6 for 1/2 hour and .8 for an hour in most Tampa Bay MP's.
Some of the aromatherapy places in St Pete charge less (search Final Touch on St Pete Board), but I am not aware of any MP where service can be had for less than .6 (half hour)
If you find one, please let us know.
CB
R Consultant
11-15-08, 21:04
Most that I know are always .6 to .8 for the door fee for the 1 hour time limit. But the negations are always workable. If the girl has had a good day with clients shes gonna be high and stay high.
But if its been a slow day and she needs the money its really workable. I have been in Aloha and got out for less than 1.5 total and had a kick azz time and thats with the door fee. Talk about basement bargains.
So no matter what these chicks say thats not the price tag your paying. Even if you have to walk out they know word of mouth is everything and they want you to come back. So and say see ya they will lower the price.
I know of one or two ladies who are hard on there prices but thats another whole post.
Happy Hunting..
They may have a half hour rate for .6 I don't know as I get the hour for .8. The standard is .6 for 1/2 hour and .8 for an hour in most Tampa Bay MP's.
Some of the aromatherapy places in St Pete charge less (search Final Touch on St Pete Board), but I am not aware of any MP where service can be had for less than .6 (half hour)
If you find one, please let us know.
CB
Moto Monger
11-16-08, 19:11
I am going too start some hobby activity over in the Tampa area as I now have reason too come over there 2 or 3 times a month. I started monitoring this board a couple weeks ago prior too me starting too visit the area. When I go over there I have too pass the J Spa (on Gandy) coming and going. Well even with the negative reports, the schmancy Asian pictures on the windows and the neon lights were too much of a draw and I decided too give it a whirl the other night. I thought the older woman who answered the bell was the Mamasan. Nope, that was the provider. She was a real spinner. Cough cough. Because she was freaking old. I opted for the shower, figured I might as well get my moneys worth. Fast and rough wash and rinse. Too the room. Fast hard massage. She was all over the place and I asked her several times to lighten up a little too. "Sure Baby". But she just continued on her path. On the flip more of the same then all of a sudden she slowed down, which was still fast, and that was supposed too be the arousal part I supposed. Well she went too work withouth prompting but was unable too produce a happy result until I lent a hand myself. It is what it is folks. Lesson learned. Pay attention too these boards for reviews. Avoid this place if this the regular staff. Because I saw the other woman working and she was no better.
Be Safe.
MM.
I am going too start some hobby activity over in the Tampa area as I now have reason too come over there 2 or 3 times a month. I started monitoring this board a couple weeks ago prior too me starting too visit the area. When I go over there I have too pass the J Spa (on Gandy) coming and going. Well even with the negative reports, the schmancy Asian pictures on the windows and the neon lights were too much of a draw and I decided too give it a whirl the other night. I thought the older woman who answered the bell was the Mamasan. Nope, that was the provider. She was a real spinner. Cough cough. Because she was freaking old. I opted for the shower, figured I might as well get my moneys worth. Fast and rough wash and rinse. Too the room. Fast hard massage. She was all over the place and I asked her several times to lighten up a little too. "Sure Baby". But she just continued on her path. On the flip more of the same then all of a sudden she slowed down, which was still fast, and that was supposed too be the arousal part I supposed. Well she went too work withouth prompting but was unable too produce a happy result until I lent a hand myself. It is what it is folks. Lesson learned. Pay attention too these boards for reviews. Avoid this place if this the regular staff. Because I saw the other woman working and she was no better.
Be Safe.
MM.
Yes over a year ago I went to the J Spa on Gandy in Tampa and reported my similar very negative experience-the workers there (not girls -old ladies) know you will never be back and could care less if you enjoy yourself-in these economic times let us give our money to places that at least act like they want us to come back!
Visited Kimura last Friday and met Jenny. A mid to late 30's Korean girl who says she just came to Tampa area from the state of Washington. Very pleasant to talk to and pretty much asks what you would like. I believe just about anything would go but I wasn't financially prepared to spend more than. 4 above the door fee (. 80 for 1 hour). Nice table shower and an average message. She did ask if I would like hard, medium or soft message. I opted for the medium. There was a real cute girl who passed in the hall as I was leaving the shower. I asked Jenny if they were OK with both working together on a message and she said as long as they weren't busy. Roaming was allowed. Nice TaTa's and ass. Wore very short shorts which I think can be explored. Am going back again soon and will update everyone. For those not familiar with Kimura it is on US 19 North of Rte 54 by about 4 miles. It is on the west side of the street in a strip center. Directly across the street is a flooing USA business which I used as a merker for finding the shop.
Has anyone visited the Oriental Message place on N. Del Mabry?
Went to the Yokohama off Dale Mabry a couple of days ago. I believe the time was around 1pm. Paid. 8 for 1 hour massage and got a korean lady named Connie (y). Nice little body and great attitude.
Skipped the TS and asked for HJ at the beginning of our session; gave her. 4 tip. Connie was very accomodating and fulfilled my request. Then I received a nice medium massage for about 30 minutes and got another HJ for a grand total of two pops. Also gave her another. 2 tip.
Would recommend Connie and will definitely repeat.
Regards,
Toeman
Clinton Bush
11-21-08, 20:02
Visited Kimura last Friday and met Jenny. A mid to late 30's Korean girl who says she just came to Tampa area from the state of Washington. Very pleasant to talk to and pretty much asks what you would like. I believe just about anything would go but I wasn't financially prepared to spend more than. 4 above the door fee (. 80 for 1 hour). Nice table shower and an average message. She did ask if I would like hard, medium or soft message. I opted for the medium. There was a real cute girl who passed in the hall as I was leaving the shower. I asked Jenny if they were OK with both working together on a message and she said as long as they weren't busy. Roaming was allowed. Nice TaTa's and ass. Wore very short shorts which I think can be explored. Am going back again soon and will update everyone. For those not familiar with Kimura it is on US 19 North of Rte 54 by about 4 miles. It is on the west side of the street in a strip center. Directly across the street is a flooing USA business which I used as a merker for finding the shop.
Has anyone visited the Oriental Message place on N. Del Mabry?
It has been reported here many times no extras are available there. There is also an Oriental Spa on Route 19 in Palm Harbor that also has no extras. Maybe something in the word "oriental" prevents allowing happy endings. LOL
Viking King
11-22-08, 17:52
I stopped by the Japanese Spa looking for Cindy. The gal in the window matched me up to a long haired older gal, told me this was Cindy, and walked me back to the room. The place is very clean but I did not receive the warm welcome I have received at many other AMPs. I asked for an hour and paid 80. The receptionist took the money and walked back up front. A little while later a another gal comes into the room, younger, short hair, nice rack and says she’s Cindy. The second Cindy looked better to me so I did not complain. After the TS I settle in for my massage. Cindy is pleasant but not very skilled with her hands. After a short massage she has me turn over. I ask about her oral skills and she responded in the affirmative. She peels off her tee shirt exposing two beautiful breasts and I spend a little time roaming. She kept her shorts on but I could tell she was not into a trimming her bush. Cindy was much better with the sensuality than with the massage and was soon cleaning me up with a hot towel. Even though it was a slow day, Cindy started helping me get dressed well before my hour was up. I was greeted with a little scowl when I tipped her 3 jacksons and Cindy’s scowl did not disappear until I increased the tip to 100. For the 180 price tag I probably should have gone over to Oxygen and asked for Tina.
Clinton Bush
11-22-08, 20:17
I stopped by the Japanese Spa looking for Cindy. The gal in the window matched me up to a long haired older gal, told me this was Cindy, and walked me back to the room. The place is very clean but I did not receive the warm welcome I have received at many other AMPs. I asked for an hour and paid 80. The receptionist took the money and walked back up front. A little while later a another gal comes into the room, younger, short hair, nice rack and says she’s Cindy. The second Cindy looked better to me so I did not complain.
"Cindy" is quite a common Japanese/Korean name. LOL.
Vaginas999
11-22-08, 21:57
"Cindy" is quite a common Japanese/Korean name. LOL.I think its because its a short name and easy to remember but, it also has no R's or L's in it. : )
R Consultant
11-22-08, 22:01
That place has been horrible for so many years its not even funny. I can't even imagine anyone if you read the forum would even waste a dollar in there. I went twice back in the day and I honestly felt like I would be better off running my body through a meat grinder with the pathetic massage they gave.
Don't waste your time or your money.
Happy Hunting..
Yes over a year ago I went to the J Spa on Gandy in Tampa and reported my similar very negative experience-the workers there (not girls -old ladies) know you will never be back and could care less if you enjoy yourself-in these economic times let us give our money to places that at least act like they want us to come back!
R Consultant
11-22-08, 22:05
Quote myself:
But the negations are always workable. If the girl has had a good day with clients shes gonna be high and stay high.
Should read:
But the negotiations are always workable. If the girl has had a good day with clients shes gonna be high and stay high.
Hopefully that will clear up some of IM's I have received.
Happy Hunting..
Most that I know are always .6 to .8 for the door fee for the 1 hour time limit. But the negations are always workable. If the girl has had a good day with clients shes gonna be high and stay high.
But if its been a slow day and she needs the money its really workable. I have been in Aloha and got out for less than 1.5 total and had a kick azz time and thats with the door fee. Talk about basement bargains.
So no matter what these chicks say thats not the price tag your paying. Even if you have to walk out they know word of mouth is everything and they want you to come back. So and say see ya they will lower the price.
I know of one or two ladies who are hard on there prices but thats another whole post.
Happy Hunting..
Member #5237
11-22-08, 22:29
I stopped by the Japanese Spa looking for Cindy. The gal in the window matched me up to a long haired older gal, told me this was Cindy, and walked me back to the room. The place is very clean but I did not receive the warm welcome I have received at many other AMPs. I asked for an hour and paid 80. The receptionist took the money and walked back up front. A little while later a another gal comes into the room, younger, short hair, nice rack and says she’s Cindy. The second Cindy looked better to me so I did not complain. After the TS I settle in for my massage. Cindy is pleasant but not very skilled with her hands. After a short massage she has me turn over. I ask about her oral skills and she responded in the affirmative. She peels off her tee shirt exposing two beautiful breasts and I spend a little time roaming. She kept her shorts on but I could tell she was not into a trimming her bush. Cindy was much better with the sensuality than with the massage and was soon cleaning me up with a hot towel. Even though it was a slow day, Cindy started helping me get dressed well before my hour was up. I was greeted with a little scowl when I tipped her 3 jacksons and Cindy’s scowl did not disappear until I increased the tip to 100. For the 180 price tag I probably should have gone over to Oxygen and asked for Tina.$180, and you did not get FS? I at least hope she used some vasoline on you when she fucked you over. You mention oral skills, but I have never known anyone, myself included, who ever got more then a HJ at that place. Next time you want to throw your money away, drive by my house and throw it in my trash can.
PeterPiper52
11-23-08, 15:45
It has been reported here many times no extras are available there. There is also an Oriental Spa on Route 19 in Palm Harbor that also has no extras. Maybe something in the word "oriental" prevents allowing happy endings. LOLYou must be talking about the Suki Spa. It's in the Palm Plaza heading south on 19. I went there once a couple of years ago. It's actually one of the cleanest AMP's that I've been to. And hands down had the hottest attendant I've ever seen. But with the hotness comes a high price. Wanted $$. 5 for FS. As beautiful as she was, I wasn't about to shell out that kind of jack. We ended up agreeing to $ for a very good (and naked) oral lecture. She had a body that I couldn't keep my hands off of and she seemed to enjoy my roaming ways. I even tried to give her the "puppy dog" eyes that were saying, "C'mon. Do me. ", but no go. But did allow me to finish in the 69 position.
I stopped by the Japanese Spa looking for Cindy. The gal in the window matched me up to a long haired older gal, told me this was Cindy, and walked me back to the room. The place is very clean but I did not receive the warm welcome I have received at many other AMPs. I asked for an hour and paid 80. The receptionist took the money and walked back up front. A little while later a another gal comes into the room, younger, short hair, nice rack and says she’s Cindy. The second Cindy looked better to me so I did not complain. After the TS I settle in for my massage. Cindy is pleasant but not very skilled with her hands. After a short massage she has me turn over. I ask about her oral skills and she responded in the affirmative. She peels off her tee shirt exposing two beautiful breasts and I spend a little time roaming. She kept her shorts on but I could tell she was not into a trimming her bush. Cindy was much better with the sensuality than with the massage and was soon cleaning me up with a hot towel. Even though it was a slow day, Cindy started helping me get dressed well before my hour was up. I was greeted with a little scowl when I tipped her 3 jacksons and Cindy’s scowl did not disappear until I increased the tip to 100. For the 180 price tag I probably should have gone over to Oxygen and asked for Tina.
"Cindy" now goes by the name "Sammy" as a direct result of this board.
After her oral offerings were reported here she got scared of the cops and changed her name. She's playing her cards a bit closer to the vest these days.
http://avastouch.webs.com/
Looks interesting any feedback is greeatly appreciated.
Clinton Bush
11-25-08, 19:48
http://avastouch.webs.com/
Looks interesting any feedback is greeatly appreciated.
Or maybe written by a prosecutor with all those disclaimers. I'd avoid and let someone else TOFTT unless you want to visit Orient Road. Maybe she is legit but my spidey sense doesn't like it
FWIW, she is legit. 100% straight up legal and legitimate. Apparently a handy girl but nothing more. The disclaimers are directed to avoiding an unlicensed health care charge.
Nemo
R Consultant
11-26-08, 03:02
I think you should go ahead and feed the young lady. If you stare at her pups long enough you will get the answer you are looking for.
have fun and let us know how the ride was...
Happy Hunting..
http://avastouch.webs.com/
Looks interesting any feedback is greeatly appreciated.
I think you should go ahead and feed the young lady. If you stare at her pups long enough you will get the answer you are looking for.
have fun and let us know how the ride was...
Happy Hunting..She is real and not a cop! I actually went to school with her sister hahaha go for it he only though with handshake!
Clinton Bush
11-26-08, 18:03
She is real and not a cop! I actually went to school with her sister hahaha go for it he only though with handshake!
I am fine with Nemo's recommendation. No offense meant, but seeing a new 1st time poster vouch for her only raises more questions in my mind. I'll pass.
Richie Sambora
11-26-08, 19:28
I am fine with Nemo's recommendation. No offense meant, but seeing a new 1st time poster vouch for her only raises more questions in my mind. I'll pass.
I'm going to call her and ask if, she would like to do a car date in my motor home.
I'll let ya'll know how it works out...
She advertises she won't do in call.
If she comes to my place (and, I have a few) once inside the walled and gated property, There is no way the 50 can get in EVEN if they wanted to.
So, that will tell me if she is for real...
Btw
Stay Safe... RS
R Consultant
11-26-08, 21:28
That is classic, I had a buddy who drove around in a little Toyota Motor home - I know you guys know the one that looks like a mini pick up with that camper on the back. He would scoop one up and park at a store and bang away. It was a good little gimmick.
That had me thinking of RS motorhome. Its a safe concept then actual car dates. More room and lots of flexibility.
Anyone want to go in on gettiing a community motorhome? LOL!!
Happy Hunting..
I'm going to call her and ask if, she would like to do a car date in my motor home.
I'll let ya'll know how it works out...
She advertises she won't do in call.
If she comes to my place (and, I have a few) once inside the walled and gated property, There is no way the 50 can get in EVEN if they wanted to.
So, that will tell me if she is for real...
Btw
Stay Safe... RS
Member #5237
11-26-08, 22:03
I'm going to call her and ask if, she would like to do a car date in my motor home.
I'll let ya'll know how it works out.
She advertises she won't do in call.
If she comes to my place (and, I have a few) once inside the walled and gated property, There is no way the 50 can get in EVEN if they wanted to. So, that will tell me if she is for real.
Btw Stay Safe. RSFYI. The police and fire departments, and EMTs have the access codes for ALL gated communities. Its required by law. They may even have a device that can override the switches in electronic gates with just the touch of a button, same way the fire department can control red lights on the way to a fire.
Member #5237
11-26-08, 22:12
That is classic, I had a buddy who drove around in a little Toyota Motor home - I know you guys know the one that looks like a mini pick up with that camper on the back. He would scoop one up and park at a store and bang away. It was a good little gimmick.
That had me thinking of RS motorhome. Its a safe concept then actual car dates. More room and lots of flexibility.
Anyone want to go in on gettiing a community motorhome? LOL!!
Happy Hunting..You could even use a standard panel van. Just put a mattress in the back, or some cheap love seat / pull-out bed. Not exactly trying to impress anyone with the surroundings of a motor home. Some of these girls have practiced their trade in some very public places, so I think a standard van would be enough, and cheaper to purchase, and would blend in better when cruising the streets. You can bet Uncle LEO will notice when the same motorhome drives past him 15 times in 1 hour.
Prof Self Help
11-27-08, 11:58
People are paying $100- $200 for a handjob.
Has self masturabtion become a LOST ART now?
R Consultant
11-27-08, 15:56
I guess you havent looked at your hands lately have you??
When you add a nice manicure some rosy red lips and then a little coin talk you can get way less than .1 or .2
I think you need to do some more shopping around.
Happy Hunting..
People are paying $100- $200 for a handjob.
Has self masturabtion become a LOST ART now?
Satch Boogie
11-27-08, 16:17
You could even use a standard panel van. Just put a mattress in the back, or some cheap love seat / pull-out bed. Not exactly trying to impress anyone with the surroundings of a motor home. Some of these girls have practiced their trade in some very public places, so I think a standard van would be enough, and cheaper to purchase, and would blend in better when cruising the streets. You can bet Uncle LEO will notice when the same motorhome drives past him 15 times in 1 hour.
About a year or so ago while living in Orlando I was cruising OBT and and keep seeing a very hot LSW/BSW and her not so hot friend hanging out in one spot. Every time I would go and turn around she would be gone. Just disappeared out of thin air. So finally after turning around and her not being there again I stop her friend. I noticed her friend from CL and talked to her so I knew she was not LEO so it was time to be a little less cautious and more bolder. So next time I saw her I made sure I didn't miss her.
It turns out she had a van and it was parked right in a Sonny's parking lot near where she was standing. That was where she was taking the johns. She had a nice mattress in there and it beat the hell out of a car date and or getting ripped off in a hotel room. Unfortuately after I pulled in and talked to her another john pulled in and wouldn't leave. Even after we got in the van the dude was just sitting there parked in the parking lot. It spooked us both so she started up her van and off we went looking for a safe spot which I chose.
I actually felt very safe and not nervous at all. Imagine that. A car date with a SW, but in her car!!
SB
Richie Sambora
11-27-08, 16:22
FYI. The police and fire departments, and EMTs have the access codes for ALL gated communities. Its required by law. They may even have a device that can override the switches in electronic gates with just the touch of a button, same way the fire department can control red lights on the way to a fire.
I totally understand but, without shedding too much info here.
So sorry,
I failed to mention in the previous post that, I have a place of business that is walled and gated.
No one gets in or out without coming to the office. I sometimes set the sign at the front door, be back in an hr. Also, once it is after hrs it’s like a ghost town out back ( nearly 10 acres ) The only override on my gates are, actually a button that does override but, they can be shut off with the flick of a switch from inside the building.
Some of you know that my private residence nearby Famous west shore is also walled and gated, there is no community. Also I’m certain some of you have driven by, if not everyday.
To add, have a place out on the water that has my cabin boat docked out back. I would never invite to my main residence. Not to mention the maker of the boat, nor the nature of the business.
However, keep in mind Uncle Leonard is lurking. Keep looking Leonard.
So getting back to her, I did call her, she stated she would not come due to the holiday and, Try her next week.
Although, I have tried this with a few different providers and, have been turned down too.
I had one very good provider for a while, all of a sudden, she dropped off the face of the map.
Need to find a new one.
Believe it or not, I actually have no luck!!
Stay Safe All………..RS
I am fine with Nemo's recommendation. No offense meant, but seeing a new 1st time poster vouch for her only raises more questions in my mind. I'll pass.I understand no prob. I am not new to this board, I had forgot my password and username on my other email and everytime I tried to get it to send info to me it never came to my email. If you need to see that Im real to see her PM me and Ill give you my number to call.
I see a new ad for the above mention Spa.
Has anyone tried it yet? It is located at 3936 W Kennedy.
I see a new ad for the above mention Spa.
Has anyone tried it yet? It is located at 3936 W Kennedy.
Don't waste your time.
It's right next door to Japanese Spa and owned by the same woman.
The idea was to have a legit day spa, offering facials, waxing, etc.
If someone comes in wanting a massage, Jeanie runs next door and grabs a licensed girl from Japanese Spa, walks her across the courtyard, through the back door, and presents her as a "massage therapist."
Business has never really got off the ground. Despite a "grand opening" and being open for a couple of years, it's still a money losing proposition because she doesn't know what she's doing with it. Now advertising massage, it's straight, legit, no extras.
Vaginas999
11-28-08, 21:32
Gold Spa was good while it 24/7 and fully operational. I have never been unhappy at Yoshiko although it will set you back some coin. Of course Osaka was excellent but that seems to be lost and gone for good, as exemplified right here in the forum.
I can point you in some fantastic places for Korean boom boom but almost none of them are in Florida. I recently visited Warren, OH on a road trip and let me tell you all the hype in the OH forums was dead on. I had one of the best AMP experiences there at 4Seasons and it was cheap. I have never donated more than $.5 at Honey's spa in Philly and never been let down yet.
4Seasons in Largo off 66th was another fantastic Amp, however closed down after being busted. They used to keep a card for you and give out a free session after 10 visits, a nice touch IMHO.
Asians are not my first choice these days, I'll take a thoroughly fluoridated American girl any day. Latina's tend to be more business than pleasure, unless you go out of the country, then they act more like Asian women do. I'm not really into Arabic, African or Hindu women. Mainly I try to stick to BBR, blondes brunettes and red heads. Every once in a while I like to sample the Asian flavor, maybe start the evening off with some Kobe steakhouse and finish in a nice naked Asian steam and massage.
Best advice is keep checking the forum of course, these amps can differ a lot in service depending on owner, location and their "heat" factor. Around here as far as I can see there is almost no Asian street presence anywhere, this from my travels. There are a few Asians doing in-call as independents around the bay but, they tend to be a little more expensive and mostly covered everything. I notice "Sierra" is now advertising as a 20 something in St pete or Clh2o or Largo. Most of us can see as I did this is just Yo-Yo of ETS infamy upwards of 8 years ago. She must have some serious "pearl cream" (read puaw cleam), or discovered the fountain of youth.
Billsohorney
11-29-08, 10:12
Are there any good 24 hour AMP in Tampa?
I'm mainly intrested in a BBBJCIM, can anyone recomend a girl.
Billsohorney
11-29-08, 18:45
Are there any 24 hour AMP's in Tampa?
Looking for a recomendation of a girl, want a good BBBJCIM / big titties would be a plus.
Thanks in advance
Mike Wazowski
11-29-08, 20:27
I totally understand but, without shedding too much info here.
So sorry,
I failed to mention in the previous post that, I have a place of business that is walled and gated.
No one gets in or out without coming to the office. I sometimes set the sign at the front door, be back in an hr. Also, once it is after hrs it’s like a ghost town out back ( nearly 10 acres ) The only override on my gates are, actually a button that does override but, they can be shut off with the flick of a switch from inside the building.
Some of you know that my private residence nearby Famous west shore is also walled and gated, there is no community. Also I’m certain some of you have driven by, if not everyday.
To add, have a place out on the water that has my cabin boat docked out back. I would never invite to my main residence. Not to mention the maker of the boat, nor the nature of the business.
However, keep in mind Uncle Leonard is lurking. Keep looking Leonard.
So getting back to her, I did call her, she stated she would not come due to the holiday and, Try her next week.
Although, I have tried this with a few different providers and, have been turned down too.
I had one very good provider for a while, all of a sudden, she dropped off the face of the map.
Need to find a new one.
Believe it or not, I actually have no luck!!
Stay Safe All………..RS
So, I thought the bravado regarding personal wealth, mention of not wanting to give out too much information, extreme paranoia about cops and a general mangling of written English all put together seemed very familiar.
A click on Mr. Sambora's name and a check of his prior posts will show that this is our favorite imaginary medal of honor winner with a name change.
Everyone remember Raw Deal Dude? All of his old posts are now archieved with this new handle, Richie Sambora.
Next time I'm driving around West Shore, I'll have to look at every walled and gated private residence - not community, mind you - and wonder if I could find our favorite wealthy business man who loves to slum it up in Pasco County dive bars.
Of course that's only when he's not in Miami, on company expenses, in a company vehicle (and what a vehicle!) finding smoking hot women at bargain basement prices that he won't tell us about - due, of course, to the ever-present 5-0, Uncle Leo, Flat Foot, etc.
Everyone remember Raw Deal Dude? All of his old posts are now archieved with this new handle, Richie Sambora.
Awwww hell, and all this time I thought Bon Jovi's guitar player had joined our group. I suppose there's no need to ask him how good a fuck Heather Locklear is.
John Kelly
11-29-08, 22:22
Raw Deal Dude was funny as hell! I miss him. He had a way with words...
Mike Wazowski
11-29-08, 23:45
Awwww hell, and all this time I thought Bon Jovi's guitar player had joined our group. I suppose there's no need to ask him how good a fuck Heather Locklear is.
I did a double take when I first saw the name because Richie Sambora does have family in the Tampa Bay area or, at least, used to. His cousin used to do tech work and security for bands back when the area was a hot-bed for live bands in night clubs.
Clinton Bush
11-30-08, 00:11
Raw Deal Dude was funny as hell! I miss him. He had a way with words...
He told it the way it is - especially in that armpit of the sexual revolution that is Pasco/Hernando. His Hudson trips and bar stories were the stuff that legends were made out of.
Richie Sambora
12-01-08, 11:00
Ohhhh! Wazowskiiiii,
wow! You're my hero mmmm hmmmmm.
The rest of you, Stay Safe..RS
So, I thought the bravado regarding personal wealth, mention of not wanting to give out too much information, extreme paranoia about cops and a general mangling of written English all put together seemed very familiar.
A click on Mr. Sambora's name and a check of his prior posts will show that this is our favorite imaginary medal of honor winner with a name change.
Everyone remember Raw Deal Dude? All of his old posts are now archieved with this new handle, Richie Sambora.
Next time I'm driving around West Shore, I'll have to look at every walled and gated private residence - not community, mind you - and wonder if I could find our favorite wealthy business man who loves to slum it up in Pasco County dive bars.
Of course that's only when he's not in Miami, on company expenses, in a company vehicle (and what a vehicle!) finding smoking hot women at bargain basement prices that he won't tell us about - due, of course, to the ever-present 5-0, Uncle Leo, Flat Foot, etc.
Tampahunter
12-01-08, 21:49
Guess I need to get hit in the head enough times to stop, but no... Went two weeks ago, Meena or Mina maybe. Started OK, would only finish HJ. When I gave her two Jax for an uninspired session, she turned up her nose and threw it on the massage table, stormed out of the room to lead me out back door. I figured, what the heck, doesn't really need the money, so I scooped it up and followed her down the hall.
I'm guessing I won't be welcome back anytime soon.
....When I gave her two Jax for an uninspired session, she turned up her nose and threw it on the massage table, stormed out of the room to lead me out back door. I figured, what the heck, doesn't really need the money, so I scooped it up and followed her down the hall.
I'm guessing I won't be welcome back anytime soon.
Sounds like you weren't welcome the 1st time. :) :) :)
Clinton Bush
12-02-08, 02:22
Guess I need to get hit in the head enough times to stop, but no... Went two weeks ago, Meena or Mina maybe. Started OK, would only finish HJ. When I gave her two Jax for an uninspired session, she turned up her nose and threw it on the massage table, stormed out of the room to lead me out back door. I figured, what the heck, doesn't really need the money, so I scooped it up and followed her down the hall.
I'm guessing I won't be welcome back anytime soon.
The last time I was there was about a year ago. I TOFTT and the chubby, acne faced, provider was the homeliest girl I have ever seen at an AMP. I should have walked out right then, but I was very horny.
I left without a hard-on not because of anything she did. Her skills were so poor it just disappeared. Unfortunately, I can't remember her name but I don't think it was Mina.
Finally, once I got to the room I found the place to be VERY UNCLEAN which makes it a health hazard.
Billsohorney
12-02-08, 10:34
Visited Oxygen over the weekend. Massage was great but only item on the menue was HJ.
Where should I visit for a more extensive menue?
Thanks in advance
Member #5237
12-02-08, 19:36
Guess I need to get hit in the head enough times to stop, but no... Went two weeks ago, Meena or Mina maybe. Started OK, would only finish HJ. When I gave her two Jax for an uninspired session, she turned up her nose and threw it on the massage table, stormed out of the room to lead me out back door. I figured, what the heck, doesn't really need the money, so I scooped it up and followed her down the hall.
I'm guessing I won't be welcome back anytime soon.That is classic!!! I once had a bad expierence at Japanese Spa on Kennedy. When I gave her the tip money, she threw it on the table with a disgusted look and showed me the door. It wasn`t until I was in the parking lot that I realized I should have taken my money back when she turned her back. On the upside, when I first entered the room to get undressed, as I was putting my wallet and keys into that little zippered pouch, I noticed the previous monger had left some money in there. I could not count it then because the twat was standing right next to me. After I left, I counted it. It turned out to be only $7. So the massage was not a total loss.
Member #5237
12-02-08, 19:42
Anyone have any info on this place? I stopped in the other day to get a look-a-round. Was met at door by average looking korean woman, maybe mid 30s. Casually dressed. Was told the rate was $80/hr and closed at 2 AM. No more 24 hour service. I had a few memorable visits to that place before the raid. Had a couple sessions with Sara. One of the few places that let you actually pick the girl you want, not get the next one in the rotation. And all the girls were hot.
Billsohorney
12-02-08, 21:22
Where is Gold Spa?
Clinton Bush
12-03-08, 00:11
Visited Oxygen over the weekend. Massage was great but only item on the menue was HJ.
Where should I visit for a more extensive menue?
Thanks in advance
Check the St Pete and Orlando massage forums, do some research and take a drive. Tampa AMPS are hit or miss now - mainly miss.
Check the St Pete and Orlando massage forums, do some research and take a drive. Tampa AMPS are hit or miss now - mainly miss.
Try Magic Spa on Kennedy,I have had luck in the past
The fact is, you did a double take when you saw the name because it gets you so hot!
I surely hope this board doesn't degenerate to tolerating this kind of crap.
Member #5237
12-04-08, 22:25
Where is Gold Spa?Gold Spa is located on Westshore a little north of Gandy. Heading north on Westshore, it`s on the left next to CDB restaurant.
I surely hope this board doesn't degenerate to tolerating this kind of crap.Apparently some high-schooler has a hard on for Mike. Research Waz. Pp and you'll see a gold mine of adolescent put-downs.
Great. Juvenile posts fooding a site intended for adults.
Tampahunter
12-06-08, 11:32
TOFTT yesterday. Had Kendi, 30 something, nothing special. Attractive, fit, nice rack. Uninspired shower, soft massage, only HJ offered. Not impressed.
Just discoverd my new favorite (short of FS)...Suzy at Yokohama. She is 30ish Korean most likely, fairly attractive and built like a brick sh-house with a small ghetto booty and muscular legs. She gives a nice TS with plenty of special attention (better than I got from Tina), and a pretty good massage/rub, once again a good amount of special attention. Allowed some roaming and was very sweet...beginning to HE. In between I became the massuese...that was worth the extra tip$ IMHO.
Senior mems PM for details.
Legalize it
12-09-08, 23:11
I went to see Angel again. She still provides excellent service. She takes her time and doesn't rush you. I got a massage and H.E. for 150 for a full hour. She's not bad looking and is very easy to get along with. She works in her apt. in south Tampa. It looked clean and safe. She has ads in Creative Loafing every week. I will be back to see her.
tantra-touch.com
Parkinrear
12-12-08, 15:43
I posted a question here some time ago and as I was and still am new to the site my question was greeted with less than warm regard. But something happened to me this week that I just have to share in Denver.
I haven't gone to an AMP in Tampa Bay in a long time. I travel a good bit for work and generally go to AMPs in those towns instead. I just got tired of the bad service and lackluster girls in Tampa. Aloha is the last place I went to about six months ago. Sunshine was outstanding but Ume (mamasan told me my massage would be with You-Me, which caused some confusion until it was determined that You-Me was someone else and that mamasan wouldn't be giving me a massage) gave a great massage but lacking in other service areas.
So, onto the story. I was in Denver for business and had read some decent reports on some other boards about a place called Bali. I gave it a shot, 40 for a half hour and 60 for a full. I payed 50 for 45 minutes and was escored by the mamasan to a room where I could hear a gentleman through the wall talking to his girl. The room was big but otherwise pretty standard. My girl came in wearing a very small, tight red dress and said her name was Chi. She was very attractive with small breasts and a nice booty. I changed into a towel and went back for the TS which was in a pretty dirty room with a table that held alot of previous bathers water. I was not impressed. I told her I wanted to stand for the shower and she allowed it. I know they like to make us clean before the massage and I didn't want to screw that up but I wasn't going to lay down in a pool of someone else's bathwater. The standing shower was standard as well, really making sure my crack and taint were clean. We went back to the room and the massage was decent but not great. On the flip she asked me what I wanted and I gently inquired about the menu, including prices. She said that hand would cost me 60. I was shocked by this and we went back and forth about going rates, etc. We hadn't established anything when she asked me to get up and walked me to the sauna and parked me there. I couldn't figure out what was going on or where she went. I stood there for a few minutes then started to wonder about the $80 in my pants pocket back in the room. As this was my first time there and Denver is a new city for me I decided to walk back to the room to see if she was rifling through my pockets. She wasn't in there so I check to see if she had taken my money (she handn't) and went back to the sauna. After a few minutes I decided that I had had enough and would leave with my remaining cash sans relief. I went back to my room, dressed and walked to the front door. The mamasan asked me if I enjoyed my time and I told her that I didn't know where my girl went and that I was extremely disappointed and leaving. She became very concerned, asked me to sit down on the sofa and ran off to find my girl. She came back and asked me to go back to the room to finish the massage. By this time I was pretty much over the whole situation and said I would rather just leave. Mamasan said she would very much like me to stay and I agreed, but only if mamasan gave me another girl. She then walked me to the room, told me that Chi was new and part time and had caused problems before and that she would send in her best girl to take care of me. I undressed and layed down on the table. Mamasan came back a few minutes later with a cup of water and told me that Julie was on her way and again told me she was sorry about Chi. Julie showed up and damn it she was smoking. Short, half Jananese half Korean, huge real tits, nice little butt and giggly and cuddly and she just acted like she couldn't be happier to see me. She began a really nice massage then gave me the nipple rub down, played with my berries from the back side then started using her mouth on an unusual and hard to get to spot on my backside. On the flip we discussed prices. I have never done FS before but it was available for the amount I had budgeted so I went for it. I can only assume I got a discounted rate because mamasan didn't want me to leave unhappy as I had mentioned a few message boards when I arrived. Julie disappeared and came right back, removed clothes and affixed a jacket to me orally and went to town. I had to stop her because this service was going to lead to a conclusion and I had paid for something different. I turned her around and we played doggie while she talked dirty. I finished and she removed my jacket, cleaned me up and layed me back down on the table. Then she started her massage, which was awesome and lasted another 30 minutes. At the end she reached under the towel and started playing with my twig. She asked if I wanted to go again and I started laughing. I told her that I had already given her all my money. She replied by saying that I already paid and began to give me a tug. I wasn't sure how this was going to work out as I had just donated not 30 minutes earlier. She really got into it and asked that I provide her with some face lotion and thusly positioned herself. At this I could not fail so I gave her what she wanted. She smeared the lotion around and I watched, amazed at my good fortune in finding this place. She cleaned herself up and dressed me. I gave mamasan a hug on my way out and started to think about who I could tell this great story to. When I got to the car I realized that I had been in there for more than two hours, only 30 minutes of which were with Chi and maybe five minutes waiting for Julie.
So, if you ever find yourself in Denver, don't go to Atlantic Spa, its terrible. Go to Bali but avoid the tables.
Clinton Bush
12-13-08, 01:41
Drove through Drew Park today (the area, not the well respected poster here).
First time I had been in the area for several years. I knew Aquarius was bulldozed but when did ETS, Pleasure Time and the other 6-7 massage parlors in Drew Park close? It looked like a ghost town. Even the Legend had no cars in front - is it closed too? Real estate signs were in front of most of the old places. Anyone with recent info?
Whale Hunter
12-15-08, 02:27
Need to be down there most of Monday... wanted to try something different.
I noticed there is no Massage thread under Sarasota. Nothing down there?
Whale Hunter
12-15-08, 20:33
Back from Sarasota and found Japan Sauna. AVOID! AVOID! AVOID!
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&hl=en&geocode=&q=Japan+Sauna%E2%80%8E&sll=27.397527,-82.560711&sspn=0.031053,0.036607&ie=UTF8&ll=27.399185,-82.563822&spn=0.015526,0.018303&t=h&z=16&iwloc=A
It's the same system as Yoshiko... just much worse.
90$ door charge for the hour. They start out by putting you in the Sauna for about 15 min. The light in there was way way to bright which let me see much better the mold between the tiles, the peeling paint and the rust on the ceiling. The TS was done by the door woman who is probably as old as my grandmother. Back to the room and after about 5 min the woman walks in. No small talk, just right to a sad 3 minute back rub. Then she asks you to turn over and it's all business. $ for a HJ. $$ for a BJ. FS was not on the menu. She did take her top off, but that is it. Touching is NOT allowed!!
I'm too pissed off to even mention this, but she even used surgical rubber gloves, claiming she had a cut on her finger and showed me a bandage.
The whole time I'm thinking.. WTF am I doing here? Walk the hell out! I just didn't know how to handle it.
Should have stuck to what I know and made the trip to Oxygen.
Dam expensive and useless lesson :(
R Consultant
12-15-08, 21:05
After reading that makes you think about boarding a plain and heading to Denver for a few days. I'm sure I could make up some excuse for work to head out there. LOL!
Happy Hunting..
I posted a question here some time ago and as I was and still am new to the site my question was greeted with less than warm regard. But something happened to me this week that I just have to share in Denver.
I haven't gone to an AMP in Tampa Bay in a long time. I travel a good bit for work and generally go to AMPs in those towns instead. I just got tired of the bad service and lackluster girls in Tampa. Aloha is the last place I went to about six months ago. Sunshine was outstanding but Ume (mamasan told me my massage would be with You-Me, which caused some confusion until it was determined that You-Me was someone else and that mamasan wouldn't be giving me a massage) gave a great massage but lacking in other service areas.
So, onto the story. I was in Denver for business and had read some decent reports on some other boards about a place called Bali. I gave it a shot, 40 for a half hour and 60 for a full. I payed 50 for 45 minutes and was escored by the mamasan to a room where I could hear a gentleman through the wall talking to his girl. The room was big but otherwise pretty standard. My girl came in wearing a very small, tight red dress and said her name was Chi. She was very attractive with small breasts and a nice booty. I changed into a towel and went back for the TS which was in a pretty dirty room with a table that held alot of previous bathers water. I was not impressed. I told her I wanted to stand for the shower and she allowed it. I know they like to make us clean before the massage and I didn't want to screw that up but I wasn't going to lay down in a pool of someone else's bathwater. The standing shower was standard as well, really making sure my crack and taint were clean. We went back to the room and the massage was decent but not great. On the flip she asked me what I wanted and I gently inquired about the menu, including prices. She said that hand would cost me 60. I was shocked by this and we went back and forth about going rates, etc. We hadn't established anything when she asked me to get up and walked me to the sauna and parked me there. I couldn't figure out what was going on or where she went. I stood there for a few minutes then started to wonder about the $80 in my pants pocket back in the room. As this was my first time there and Denver is a new city for me I decided to walk back to the room to see if she was rifling through my pockets. She wasn't in there so I check to see if she had taken my money (she handn't) and went back to the sauna. After a few minutes I decided that I had had enough and would leave with my remaining cash sans relief. I went back to my room, dressed and walked to the front door. The mamasan asked me if I enjoyed my time and I told her that I didn't know where my girl went and that I was extremely disappointed and leaving. She became very concerned, asked me to sit down on the sofa and ran off to find my girl. She came back and asked me to go back to the room to finish the massage. By this time I was pretty much over the whole situation and said I would rather just leave. Mamasan said she would very much like me to stay and I agreed, but only if mamasan gave me another girl. She then walked me to the room, told me that Chi was new and part time and had caused problems before and that she would send in her best girl to take care of me. I undressed and layed down on the table. Mamasan came back a few minutes later with a cup of water and told me that Julie was on her way and again told me she was sorry about Chi. Julie showed up and damn it she was smoking. Short, half Jananese half Korean, huge real tits, nice little butt and giggly and cuddly and she just acted like she couldn't be happier to see me. She began a really nice massage then gave me the nipple rub down, played with my berries from the back side then started using her mouth on an unusual and hard to get to spot on my backside. On the flip we discussed prices. I have never done FS before but it was available for the amount I had budgeted so I went for it. I can only assume I got a discounted rate because mamasan didn't want me to leave unhappy as I had mentioned a few message boards when I arrived. Julie disappeared and came right back, removed clothes and affixed a jacket to me orally and went to town. I had to stop her because this service was going to lead to a conclusion and I had paid for something different. I turned her around and we played doggie while she talked dirty. I finished and she removed my jacket, cleaned me up and layed me back down on the table. Then she started her massage, which was awesome and lasted another 30 minutes. At the end she reached under the towel and started playing with my twig. She asked if I wanted to go again and I started laughing. I told her that I had already given her all my money. She replied by saying that I already paid and began to give me a tug. I wasn't sure how this was going to work out as I had just donated not 30 minutes earlier. She really got into it and asked that I provide her with some face lotion and thusly positioned herself. At this I could not fail so I gave her what she wanted. She smeared the lotion around and I watched, amazed at my good fortune in finding this place. She cleaned herself up and dressed me. I gave mamasan a hug on my way out and started to think about who I could tell this great story to. When I got to the car I realized that I had been in there for more than two hours, only 30 minutes of which were with Chi and maybe five minutes waiting for Julie.
So, if you ever find yourself in Denver, don't go to Atlantic Spa, its terrible. Go to Bali but avoid the tables.
Was driving on Kennedy west of Dale Mabry on business and saw that J Spa has a new name, Summer something?? and they were having a grand opening.
Anyone try the new place yet?
Was driving on Kennedy west of Dale Mabry on business and saw that J Spa has a new name, Summer something?? and they were having a grand opening. Anyone try the new place yet?
They probably changed the name because most fellows know that J-Spa had a lousy reputation.
They probably changed the name because most fellows know that J-Spa had a lousy reputation.
He may be confusing J Spa on Gandy with Japanese Spa on Kennedy. Endless Summer is the spa directly in front of Japanese Spa. I think the reviews are a little different for Japanese Spa than for J Spa. I haven't seen any reviews for Endless Summer so I don't know if it is basically a woman's spa or if it's an extension of Japanese Spa.
Phlebotomist
12-24-08, 00:31
He may be confusing J Spa on Gandy with Japanese Spa on Kennedy. Endless Summer is the spa directly in front of Japanese Spa. I think the reviews are a little different for Japanese Spa than for J Spa. I haven't seen any reviews for Endless Summer so I don't know if it is basically a woman's spa or if it's an extension of Japanese Spa.Looks like there was an undercover sting on one of the ladies at J Spa yesterday (the 22nd), according to the hcso site.
Be careful out there!
Looks like there was an undercover sting on one of the ladies at J Spa yesterday (the 22nd), according to the hcso site.
Be careful out there!
I find it interesting that Japanese Spa and J Spa have been known for years as rub & tug only, yet in the past year they have both had girls offering full service.
I guess it was inevitable that the popo would catch on.
J Melbourne27
01-03-09, 07:07
Leo's SOP is always to ramp-up prosecution against high $$$ suspects when there are economic short-falls.
First they target the street walkers because they KNOW they're making enough $$$$ to pay any fines in short order that are leveled, then it's traffic citations, and on and on at the easy targets until EVENTUALLY they MIGHT get to the difficult targets such as Drug Dealers and Pimps.
I know a few police officers and am related to someone in a very very high office and they think it's perfectly logical to target the easy $ targets first.
I'm disappointed in our government because they've shown they are too WEAK to bring in a fish as big as Osama Bin Laden because he has too much money. We are all disappointed in them.
Leo's SOP is always to ramp-up prosecution against high $$$ suspects when there are economic short-falls.
First they target the street walkers because they KNOW they're making enough $$$$ to pay any fines in short order that are leveled, then it's traffic citations, and on and on at the easy targets until EVENTUALLY they MIGHT get to the difficult targets such as Drug Dealers and Pimps.
I know a few police officers and am related to someone in a very very high office and they think it's perfectly logical to target the easy $ targets first.
I'm disappointed in our government because they've shown they are too WEAK to bring in a fish as big as Osama Bin Laden because he has too much money. We are all disappointed in them.
You don't know squat.
The fine a streetwalker pays for a misdemeaner charge doesn't even cover what is costs to pay the cop that did the paperwork, much less everyone else involved in the court system.
The easy money is in traffic tickets.
One cop, on a daily basis, can write tickets that bring in hundreds of dollars.
Targeted enforcement of prostitution is directed by local politicians. They tell the police administration they want things cleaned up. Stuff rolls down hill. The police brass assign guys to go out and clean up. They spend many thousands of $$$$ doing it and get nothing for it.
Those politicians then try to convince the voters that they have been tough on crime.
I'm disappointed in our government because they've shown they are too WEAK to bring in a fish as big as Osama Bin Laden because he has too much money. We are all disappointed in them.
Is this a case of BWI (blogging while intoxicated)? What does OBL have to do with streetwalkers and mongering?
Is this a case of BWI (blogging while intoxicated)? What does OBL have to do with streetwalkers and mongering?
...I saw these two "walking the walk" on Nebraska Ave...
:^)
Dickchainy
01-05-09, 09:51
...I saw these two "walking the walk" on Nebraska Ave.LOL
How unlikely that would be! "Covered" takes on an entirely different meaning.
Back on topic.
...I saw these two "walking the walk" on Nebraska Ave...
:^)
Hey Drew is there a sleeper cell near by?
Anyone been to either Kimura or Miyoka Spa's on rte 19 just north of 54?
I have been to Miyako about 6 months ago. Good experience, but I got lucky because the girl there was one that worked in Clearwater at one time and she recognized me.
There was more than one girl working and the one I didn't get was very hot and young looking.
Good luck.
I just wanted you to know that I had an incredible time at the Yoshiko Health Spa on Kennedy. The woman was incredibly beautiful. She did one hell of a massage and on the flip it was full service for 2 bills or a "HJ" for 1/2 a Franklin.
Maybe I am the only one that thinks $$.60 is way to high a price for an AMP. If I am going to drop $$ on a girl she better be a 9+ escort and spend 1+ hours in my room and allow Greek.
I have been the YHS and dropped .60 on the door and .80 on the flip for CFS.
But if you had a good time then it's you cash. ;)
Surf Out
I just wanted you to know that I had an incredible time at the Yoshiko Health Spa on Kennedy. The woman was incredibly beautiful. She did one hell of a massage and on the flip it was full service for 2 bills or a "HJ" for 1/2 a Franklin.
I just wanted you to know that I had an incredible time at the Yoshiko Health Spa on Kennedy. The woman was incredibly beautiful. She did one hell of a massage and on the flip it was full service for 2 bills or a "HJ" for 1/2 a Franklin.Is it just me or why would a newbie post a glowing report about his experience just 4 days after they get busted? Either one of these look familiar Nuts?
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=09001774
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=09001775
Is it just me or why would a newbie post a glowing report about his experience just 4 days after they get busted? Either one of these look familiar Nuts?
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=09001774
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=09001775Lingerie Shops
Views: 45,154 Posted By Nutcrker
Where have all the happy endings gone.
I am a first time poster, however I have been reading this webstie and I am very confused as to the issues regarding lingerie modeling shops. There used to be "bottoms up and many happy returns", however now it seems that you might as well stay home, save your money and let the good times roll.
I was to indulge my fantasies, this weekend, went to the Drew Park area and it was like a ghost town. Where, oh where have the good times gone.
I ventured out to Club 7315 on Armenia looking for a good time, however I paid $350. 00 for a dismal lingerie modeling show. I would have enjoyed myself more, by staying home and looking at a Victoria Secret catalog. I would have given myself a goot time, saved $350. 00 and known that the happy endings are gone.
After leaving Club 7315 I was stopped, by the police, who informed me that they were conducting a Racketeering investigation, at this business and were looking for my cooperation. This episode scared me to go straight home but when I got home, my wife had already been notified that our car was at a business being investigated by police.
I am posting this to advise you not to frequent these business because all the "happy endings" will make it home before you do.
I ventured out to Club 7315 on Armenia looking for a good time, however I paid $350. 00 for a dismal lingerie modeling show. I would have enjoyed myself more, by staying home and looking at a Victoria Secret catalog. I would have given myself a goot time, saved $350. 00 and known that the happy endings are gone.
After leaving Club 7315 I was stopped, by the police, who informed me that they were conducting a Racketeering investigation, at this business and were looking for my cooperation. This episode scared me to go straight home but when I got home, my wife had already been notified that our car was at a business being investigated by police.
I am posting this to advise you not to frequent these business because all the "happy endings" will make it home before you do.Who did you see and what was the date?
I usually do not post, however this was my first visit to a massage parlor. My wife was out of town and I decided to take this opportunity to experience a "massage".
The female that "took care of me" was an older Asian female who provided me with a memorable service.
I will definitly make a return visit as soon as I have a chance.
I want you to know that I am a vegetarian and have no connection or contact with bacon.
Comp Man77
01-15-09, 11:17
Hi,
What's the point of report like this? No mention of the place or the service he received.
I usually do not post, however this was my first visit to a massage parlor. My wife was out of town and I decided to take this opportunity to experience a "massage".
The female that "took care of me" was an older Asian female who provided me with a memorable service.
I will definitly make a return visit as soon as I have a chance.
I want you to know that I am a vegetarian and have no connection or contact with bacon.
Hi,
What's the point of report like this? No mention of the place or the service he received.
A newbie who hasn't figured out the ropes.
If you scroll down a bit it would appear that this is a follow-up to his initial post regarding Yoshiko.
Clinton Bush
01-15-09, 22:00
A newbie who hasn't figured out the ropes.
If you scroll down a bit it would appear that this is a follow-up to his initial post regarding Yoshiko.
Plus he wanted to explain his credentials as a vegetarian here in case we had any follow up questions about meat eating and dining at the Y. :)
Whale Hunter
01-16-09, 15:32
I need to be on the other coast for this coming week end and was wondering if any one knows of any friendly AMPs in that area.
Looking for the area between Fort Pierce and Palm Bay to the north.
I checked the boards as best as I could and did a google search for spas and such with no likely hits.
Any info would be appreciated and a report will follow :)
**** Been digging deeper and it's like there is nothing on the east coast. Lots or spas but all seem legit.
Hope I find something out there, other wise its going to be a long sad week end.
I need to be on the other coast for this coming week end and was wondering if any one knows of any friendly AMPs in that area.
Looking for the area between Fort Pierce and Palm Bay to the north.
I checked the boards as best as I could and did a google search for spas and such with no likely hits.
Any info would be appreciated and a report will follow :)
**** Been digging deeper and it's like there is nothing on the east coast. Lots or spas but all seem legit.
Hope I find something out there, other wise its going to be a long sad week end.
There is an AMP in Cocoa beach. I can't remember the name but it's right across the street from the Ford dealership.
There are AMPs in Ft. Lauderdale too.
Both are outside the perimeters of your target location, but Cocoa is not out of the question if you can handle a quick run up the road.
There used to be an American run place in Malabar about 6-8 years ago. Not sure if it is still there and I can't remember the name. "Extreme Fantasy" seems to ring a bell.
This might be the reason you're having trouble finding Vero AMP's:
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081231/BREAKINGNEWS/312310001&s=d&page=12#pluckcomments
I need to be on the other coast for this coming week end and was wondering if any one knows of any friendly AMPs in that area.
Looking for the area between Fort Pierce and Palm Bay to the north.
I checked the boards as best as I could and did a google search for spas and such with no likely hits.
Any info would be appreciated and a report will follow :)
**** Been digging deeper and it's like there is nothing on the east coast. Lots or spas but all seem legit.
Hope I find something out there, other wise its going to be a long sad week end.
This might be the reason you're having trouble finding Vero AMP's:
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081231/BREAKINGNEWS/312310001&s=d&page=12#pluckcomments
"...Six women were charged with racketeering and unlicensed practice of a health care profession...the men are being charged with a misdemeanor offense punishable to up to one year in jail and a $1,000 fine. Their bails are $500 each..."
Makes me wonder what the actual charges are for the guys? Receiving a massage from an unlicensed masseuse? Unless there is evidence these men actually paid money for illicit activities, a good attorney will get them off.
Here in northern Virginia there was a similar raid, but those fellows were rounded up as part of the raid. They were charged with "frequenting a bawdy house..."
But given the numbers of men identified, it may mean there were credit card receipts (unlikely) or their vehicle tags were recorded as part of the surveillance and then traced back. And if that was the case, just because you may own the vehicle, doesn't mean you drove it to the AMP. Again a good attorney would poke significant holes in the argument.
It would be interesting to read the full story.
They were charged with "frequenting a bawdy house..."
But given the numbers of men identified, it may mean there were credit card receipts (unlikely) or their vehicle tags were recorded as part of the surveillance and then traced back.
I caught some flak sometime back about the location of an AMP, where I stated that I preferred a place like the Four Seasons, which was in the middle of a strip mall, and next to a bar. You had a reason to be parked there, and I almost always walked into the bar prior to going into the Four Seasons. There was a report some time ago about Sarasota police sending letters to the owners of cars that were parked outside of an AMP, and that bs law about "frequenting a bawdy house" is just the sort of thing that gets us in trouble.
I have little faith that this will change in my lifetime, but I can hope.
J3
Clinton Bush
01-17-09, 22:20
They were charged with "frequenting a bawdy house..."
But given the numbers of men identified, it may mean there were credit card receipts (unlikely) or their vehicle tags were recorded as part of the surveillance and then traced back.
I caught some flak sometime back about the location of an AMP, where I stated that I preferred a place like the Four Seasons, which was in the middle of a strip mall, and next to a bar. You had a reason to be parked there, and I almost always walked into the bar prior to going into the Four Seasons. There was a report some time ago about Sarasota police sending letters to the owners of cars that were parked outside of an AMP, and that bs law about "frequenting a bawdy house" is just the sort of thing that gets us in trouble.
I have little faith that this will change in my lifetime, but I can hope.
J3
Just wondering. Were you ever able to persuade one of the AMP girls to go for a drink with you?
Whale Hunter
01-19-09, 10:38
First, thx guys for the info and news. I hope never to get busted like that.
Second, even tho this is not a Tampa area report, I thought some one would find some interesting info here.
So I'm driving to the east coast and take a break for dinner in the Orlando area and use my Iphone for a last minute search for some thing along the way. I found 1 post from 2007 for a place in Cocoa called New Tokyo Spa Center on W. Kings St. claiming that only HE was available there. To me that means a great massage and you leave happy. Exactly what I'm looking for. So there I am, small house set far back right off the main street. Parked in the parking lot of the building next door and walked over. Entry hall like every other place we know. Ring the bell, and who answers the door? Geene from Oxygen! She has been MIA since June last year and was one of the better talent to go through Oxygen IMHO. She knew me by name right away and was (I think) genuinely happy to see me. Place was nice and clean, real doors as opposed to curtains and 80$ at the door. Great scrub at the TS with full attention... you know what I mean.
I noticed the massage tables were extra wide so I asked her whats up with that? And here is the info I have. First, she left Oxygen for Osaka. Then the owner of Osaka bought out New Tokyo and cleaned the place up and moved her over there. It used to be a full menu kind of place and the new owners put and end to it. So there are no extras here guys.
Had the best massage Ive had in months! I miss Geene. Any way, it's time for the flip and while she is doing the soft part she yells out for May. (I was the only one there at the time). May comes over and I am introduced as an old customer from Tampa and am told that today is my birthday. I was about to point out the error... but my point lost all desire to resist when suddenly this turned into a 4 hand job. OMGOD!!
To sum this up, Geene and May knew EXACTLY what they were doing, Clean place, fantastic massage, no extras, defiantly worth a visit if you happen to be driving that way.
Cheers
Clinton Bush
01-19-09, 12:52
First, thx guys for the info and news. I hope never to get busted like that.
Second, even tho this is not a Tampa area report, I thought some one would find some interesting info here.
So I'm driving to the east coast and take a break for dinner in the Orlando area and use my Iphone for a last minute search for some thing along the way. I found 1 post from 2007 for a place in Cocoa called New Tokyo Spa Center on W. Kings St. claiming that only HE was available there. To me that means a great massage and you leave happy. Exactly what I'm looking for. So there I am, small house set far back right off the main street. Parked in the parking lot of the building next door and walked over. Entry hall like every other place we know. Ring the bell, and who answers the door? Geene from Oxygen! She has been MIA since June last year and was one of the better talent to go through Oxygen IMHO. She knew me by name right away and was (I think) genuinely happy to see me. Place was nice and clean, real doors as opposed to curtains and 80$ at the door. Great scrub at the TS with full attention... you know what I mean.
I noticed the massage tables were extra wide so I asked her whats up with that? And here is the info I have. First, she left Oxygen for Osaka. Then the owner of Osaka bought out New Tokyo and cleaned the place up and moved her over there. It used to be a full menu kind of place and the new owners put and end to it. So there are no extras here guys.
Had the best massage Ive had in months! I miss Geene. Any way, it's time for the flip and while she is doing the soft part she yells out for May. (I was the only one there at the time). May comes over and I am introduced as an old customer from Tampa and am told that today is my birthday. I was about to point out the error... but my point lost all desire to resist when suddenly this turned into a 4 hand job. OMGOD!!
To sum this up, Geene and May knew EXACTLY what they were doing, Clean place, fantastic massage, no extras, defiantly worth a visit if you happen to be driving that way.
Cheers
The 2 girls certainly took good care of lighting the candle on your cake. :)
One question - Is the owner (who you say owns Osaka?) the owner from the Osaka heydays? or has the place changed hands? I have heard so much about the old Osaka it would be nice to find the next one somewhere in the area.
Whale Hunter
01-19-09, 14:50
The 2 girls certainly took good care of lighting the candle on your cake. :)
One question - Is the owner (who you say owns Osaka?) the owner from the Osaka heydays? or has the place changed hands? I have heard so much about the old Osaka it would be nice to find the next one somewhere in the area.
I'm still Lit!! lol
That was an amazing experience. First for me.
My understanding from Geene is that the current owners of Osaka now own New Tokyo as well. When they cleaned up the place... my guess is that the girls that worked there either didn't want to, or didn't know how to go strait and probably moved on, so they moved Geene from Tampa to fill the gap. The old Osaka in Tampa is before my time and I have never been there yet.
Nordicman21
01-19-09, 20:20
I had a dream that I visited Tampa and stopped by Q Spa in Tarpon Springs. Kind of a shabby little place in a strip mall by a bingo hall. Waited quite some time for someone to answer the bell. Cute girl, late 30's. TS facility was too short for me (I'm 6' tall), so a little cramped. Told her I was visiting, did the usual negotiation, ended up with FS for $ +. 6 door fee. Will likely go back next time I'm in town.
Happy hunting
TremontTeddy
01-19-09, 21:51
I'm still Lit!! lol
The old Osaka in Tampa is before my time and I have never been there yet.
I believe i got my last good ride at osaka end of dec 2007. i was so hooked on the cheap fun i went to the place a couple days after they got busted and reopened.
TT
Whale Hunter
01-20-09, 10:54
I believe i got my last good ride at osaka end of dec 2007. i was so hooked on the cheap fun i went to the place a couple days after they got busted and reopened.
TT
If I may ask... how is Osaka now? Worth a visit or should I stick with what I know? Oxygen is my yardstick.
Cheers
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