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Vaginas999
02-03-08, 11:51
Methinks you have been reading too many boiler plate LE press releases. The reason everyone is from Queens, at least on the east coast, is because they have apartments in Flushing, a community in the borough of Queens. It's not called Korea-Town for nothing. There is also a Korea-Town in LA on the west coast, and a few other places, just like there is a China-Town in many of our large cities. I'm not sure where you get your information about trafficing but in my years of patronizing AMPs as well as intimate relationships with some of the workers, some of whom have lived and traveled with me, as well as owners whom have lived or traveled with me, your information is for the greatest part simply wrong. The K girls have far more freedom than LE wants to admit. LE uses that technique to just stir up the community to have the places closed.
One friend, who owned a Tampa AMP, who speaks excellent Englsh and owns her own home in the northern part of Florida, is retired from the business. We had the discussion about whether the women are "trafficed" and forced to work under duress. Her reply was, "Bullshit! We do it because of the money."
Those who do work under duress do so because of their own problems. Many are heavy drinkers and spend great sums of money drinking. I've spent many nights at my GF's spa and once the open light goes off they really pound them down. They need money to feed that habit and have a few extra dollars to spend on themselves.
Most of the rest who work under duress do so because they are extremely materialistic and cannot control spending on high end items as well as inexpensive faddish items.
Over the years, I've been welcome in the "employees" area of many AMPs and I have yet to find one who cannot come and go as she pleases or who gives their money up to anyone except the manager. It is and has been standard practice in the business to pay a set amount each week to compensate the manger and a set amount each week for the food that is provided to them.
As for licenses, it is correct that many of them do not have driver's licenses. But there are many who not only have licenses, they have cars, and very nice cars at that. Those who don't have licenses aren't prevented by anyone other than themselves from obtaining a driver's license. If they are from Flushing, far too many speak only Korean to other Koreans. Many do not learn to read, write, or speak English. Those who do learn live a much better life here even if they do work in AMPs.
Quite frankly, I'd like to see just one piece of credible evidence that a Korean AMP is controlled by a human trafficer. I'd like to see one credible piece of evidence that in all the past years LE has been busting and shutting down AMPs that they have located a group or individual here or in Korea who has control over these women. The operative word being Korean AMPs. I have no experience with other AMPs or other ethnic MPs.Yes, man of course there are independent AMP in the USA. But, the vast majority are AMPs I am speaking of. I got my info from 15 years of going to AMPs hanging out with mamisans and AMP lady workers, and now being married to a South Korean woman. I would never waste my time typing LE bullshit information in this forum. But thanks for trying to discredit me because some asian twat felt sorry for you and let you drown you sorrows with them in the "backroom" with a bottle. I'm not trying to make anyone feel sorry for these women, I still go and sample their talents to this day, regardless what I think, because I am generous and polite and I treat them like women, not pieces of meat.
I'm not sure where you get your information about trafficing but in my years of patronizing AMPs as well as intimate relationships with some of the workers, some of whom have lived and traveled with me, as well as owners whom have lived or traveled with me, your information is for the greatest part simply wrong. The K girls have far more freedom than LE wants to admit. LE uses that technique to just stir up the community to have the places closed.
http://newyork.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel06/koreantraffickingarrest081606.htm
In Summer 2006, the Feds and local LE pounced on AMPs up and down the East Coast. It made a very big slash here in the DC area.
One friend, who owned a Tampa AMP, who speaks excellent Englsh and owns her own home in the northern part of Florida, is retired from the business. We had the discussion about whether the women are "trafficed" and forced to work under duress. Her reply was, "Bullshit! We do it because of the money."
You're right. It is all about the money. I have an acquaintance who came here from Korea to earn a living. She had no other marketable skills here in the USA and took to spa work. Ironically she got out of the line of work and is having considerable difficulty finding legitimate work that pays as well.
Those who do work under duress do so because of their own problems. Many are heavy drinkers and spend great sums of money drinking. I've spent many nights at my GF's spa and once the open light goes off they really pound them down. They need money to feed that habit and have a few extra dollars to spend on themselves... Most of the rest who work under duress do so because they are extremely materialistic and cannot control spending on high end items as well as inexpensive faddish items.
Drinking, partying, shopping and gambling go hand in hand. And don't forget the Gucci clothes and Coach bags.
Quite frankly, I'd like to see just one piece of credible evidence that a Korean AMP is controlled by a human trafficer. I'd like to see one credible piece of evidence that in all the past years LE has been busting and shutting down AMPs that they have located a group or individual here or in Korea who has control over these women.
http://www.nbc4.com/news/9690144/detail.html
http://www.wbaltv.com/news/9689509/detail.html
Vaginas999
02-03-08, 12:47
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?file=/c/a/2006/10/10/MNGN9LFHRO1.DTL
http://www.toledoblade.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20041126/NEWS03/411260423
http://www.catholic.org/national/national_story.php?id=24490
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=950DEEDE1F3AF933A2575AC0A96F948260
But I post only to inform not frighten, I still got to AMPs all the time. I don't let anything stop me from having fun the way I want too. I enjoy Asian women so much that I hope my patronage in their establishments causes their particular form of business to become more pervasive in the USA. In fact, I hope all of our support leads to an AMP boom.
Nite Mover 669
02-03-08, 15:29
http://newyork.fbi.gov/dojpressrel/pressrel06/koreantraffickingarrest081606.htm
In Summer 2006, the Feds and local LE pounced on AMPs up and down the East Coast. It made a very big slash here in the DC area.
You're right. It is all about the money. I have an acquaintance who came here from Korea to earn a living. She had no other marketable skills here in the USA and took to spa work. Ironically she got out of the line of work and is having considerable difficulty finding legitimate work that pays as well.
Drinking, partying, shopping and gambling go hand in hand. And don't forget the Gucci clothes and Coach bags.
http://www.nbc4.com/news/9690144/detail.html
http://www.wbaltv.com/news/9689509/detail.html
As a novice, who rarely frequents AMPs, I wonder if their LE problem is two fold, one its Bushes " hot button, trafficking " and therefore there is Fed $$$ for LE to go after them. I don't think that the AMPs fit the publics perception of "trafficking ". Again I'm a novice vis-a-vis the AMPs.
For the most part, I think we agree on most of the posts we've made on this subject. We do have a slightly different opinion on some issues but we're not that far off.
As for the DC NBC link you provided I notice the following: "70 SUSPECTED sex slaves (this is not credible evidence, only an allegation); if convicted (IF being the operative word. The question remains - were they?); The couple and two New York police officers accused of accepting bribes were arrested and charged with public corruption offenses in March (Public corruption is a far cry from human trafficking and at this point they were only charges); she acknowledged that some of the 70 suspected victims might turn out to have known the risks of the brothel trade and chose to work in it anyway (This is the closest to telling the truth I've seen in a news report by someone in LE involved in this issue. My guess is that the end result was more like all than some); The suspects include suspected brothel owners and managers, people involved in unlicensed money-transmitting businesses, and people accused of assisting the organization" (Note the use of the term suspects and suspected - Again this is not credible evidence, it is simply anecdotal and the quotes/information provided to the media by the agencies.) And, it begs the question that since this was published August 16, 2006 and we're now almost 14 months past that it seems odd that there are still all those operating AMPs in the Washington DC and up and down the east coast, wouldn't you say?
The Baltimore link has almost the same story as the DC story and ironically has the same publishing date. Essentially, the media sources for these two cities took a boiler plate press release and went with it.
And then there is that FBI document which is really a boilerplate press release from the FBI with very much the same allegations in dozens of press releases from various LE agencies around the country. Doesn't it seem to to almost be just what the media sources published? Interesting too is that their date is also August 16, 2006. The release says, "The wiretap led to the discovery of an extensive network of Korean-owned brothels, stretching from Rhode Island to Washington, D.C." You know, if I hadn't seen AMPs in Florida, Georgia, South Carolina, North Carolina, Virginia, Washington DC, Maryland mostly near Baltimore, and Pennsylvania all owned and staffed by Koreans I would never have known there was such "an extensive network of Korean-owned brothels." Some are owned by partners, some are owned by individuals and yes in some cases a person or group owns a number of them. It still does not credibly establish that an organized group of Koreans are a) running all the Korean AMPs in the country, b)controlling where and when the girls go, and c) forcing/and or lying to these women to come here. Those I know and talk with have told me they knew what they were doing and they did it willingly. Now that may not be the right thing to do or the right way to live one's life but it is still a choice made by the individual. Still, other than allegations and suspects and suspected actions, there is no credible evidence. Credible evidence would consist of convictions and court transcripts demonstrating how the evidence was sufficient to prove that women are forced to come over here, kept as slaves, and held against their will. I hope if there is a trial in this "alleged" case that someone will post the outcome of it. That might give this debate a clearer vision of what is truth and what is PR for political purposes.
None of it in and of itself proves (nor disproves for that matter) that human trafficking and sex slaves are a way of life for Korean AMPS. You do have to admit though, it does make fine theater and great public relations for the various agencies.
Vaginas999
02-03-08, 21:47
Irish Male2,
Good points.
You know I was kidding about the bottle right.
Happy mongering.
LMAO
Not in the Korean community, Been to to many amps, Know to many owners, dated to many of the girls.
As a side business venture I opened a small construction business, mostly re-modeling. Since I was at the amp's three to four times a week started getting some business from the mamasan's for remodel as they usually got taken advantage of and charged to much for re-model and repairs.
Long story short, have never met a "slave" at any of the amp's , most usually have kids they support, or gambling habits, or families back in Korea.
I have met entertainers, singers, and school teacher's in the Amp's, yes I even sat down and watched one fo the girls sing on the Korean channel KBS while at my residence drinking wine, and she worked in an AMP here in the states.
The Chinese, they pay around $60K to $75 K to get smuggled into the country. They have a support system you would not even begin to imagine including banking, lawyer's, real estate agent's, etc. etc. It is amazing how many illegal immigrants own house's and business here in the USA, but hey it works for them.
I have had Chinese Lawyer's wife's in the AMPS, the lawyers send there wife's here to work and when they get the "debt" paid off the use them as a contact to assist in the smuggling pipeline.
The "FED's" like the words "human trafficking" and "slave trade".
Give's then an excuse to seize all assets, business and private, been there seen it happen.
There is no human trafficking in the S Korean amps. nor the Chinese, it is all volunteer. WAV
Irish Male2,
Good points.
You know I was kidding about the bottle right.
Happy mongering.
Although based on the entire content of your previous post it is hard to accept you were kidding I will nevertheless accept that you were. I also accept that you have had the amount of experience you say you have even though you have only 9 posts here.
I've had the same amount of experience in terms of amount of years and probably the same or more in terms of relationships. I do not have a marriage experience with a Korean woman but I have had a number of long term relationships, including a couple of long term live in relationships with Korean women so I'm not without some knowledge when I try to discredit the misinformation about trafficking and enslavement LE wants us all to believe.
As for the other posts between this post and the one that started this debate (again) that attempt to provide further credible evidence of sex slavery and human trafficking, nothing so far amounts to hard evidence, let alone credible evidence of sex slavery and human trafficking of Korean women. It's the same "charged," "suspected." "alleged" stuff that we see in every press release from LE, including the one from the FBI. Why are there no convictions of human trafficking or for enslaving Korean women?
As for the rest of the story, there is no question that there are undocumented or temporary green card holders taking the chance to work in the business because its fast money. There's no question that many of them have been sent back home. There's no question that many are practicing a health profession without a license and are more frequently charged and convicted of that. There's no question that all are practicing some form or prosititution. This is not the question.
The question was and remains whether the Korean women working in the AMPs are victims of human trafficking and are enslaved sex workers. Despite all the PR of all the LE agencies that I have seen, I have yet to see any evidence of an individual or groups of individuals convicted of human trafficking or sex enslavement of Korean women. The bottom line is, insofar as Korean AMP workers are concerned, they are there willingly, they do it because they want to do it, and they are under no threat to continue doing what they are doing.
As for other ethnic MPs I cannot speculate. I believe it is entirely possible and probable that women are trafficked into this country for the sole purpose of prostitution and are forced against their will to participate.
By the way Vagina, I'm just curious. How does your Korean wife feel about your continued patronage of AMPs?
Hard Working 19
02-04-08, 21:12
There have been dozens of convictions for trafficking (not enslaving) in Korean women in the US. It appears the only convictions have been of the 'middle men', not the top dogs, who I suspect are not even in the US. I am not arguing your theories or stance, just your claim of no convictions.
. It's the same "charged," "suspected." "alleged" stuff that we see in every press release from LE, including the one from the FBI. Why are there no convictions of human trafficking or for enslaving Korean women?
Vaginas999
02-04-08, 21:16
Although based on the entire content of your previous post it is hard to accept you were kidding I will nevertheless accept that you were. I also accept that you have had the amount of experience you say you have even though you have only 9 posts here.
I've had the same amount of experience in terms of amount of years and probably the same or more in terms of relationships. I do not have a marriage experience with a Korean woman but I have had a number of long term relationships, including a couple of long term live in relationships with Korean women so I'm not without some knowledge when I try to discredit the misinformation about trafficking and enslavement LE wants us all to believe.
As for the other posts between this post and the one that started this debate (again) that attempt to provide further credible evidence of sex slavery and human trafficking, nothing so far amounts to hard evidence, let alone credible evidence of sex slavery and human trafficking of Korean women. It's the same "charged," "suspected." "alleged" stuff that we see in every press release from LE, including the one from the FBI. Why are there no convictions of human trafficking or for enslaving Korean women?
As for the rest of the story, there is no question that there are undocumented or temporary green card holders taking the chance to work in the business because its fast money. There's no question that many of them have been sent back home. There's no question that many are practicing a health profession without a license and are more frequently charged and convicted of that. There's no question that all are practicing some form or prosititution. This is not the question.
The question was and remains whether the Korean women working in the AMPs are victims of human trafficking and are enslaved sex workers. Despite all the PR of all the LE agencies that I have seen, I have yet to see any evidence of an individual or groups of individuals convicted of human trafficking or sex enslavement of Korean women. The bottom line is, insofar as Korean AMP workers are concerned, they are there willingly, they do it because they want to do it, and they are under no threat to continue doing what they are doing.
As for other ethnic MPs I cannot speculate. I believe it is entirely possible and probable that women are trafficked into this country for the sole purpose of prostitution and are forced against their will to participate.
By the way Vagina, I'm just curious. How does your Korean wife feel about your continued patronage of AMPs?Of course not ever Korean girl is a sex slave. My whole point wasn't whether or not its going on, because I really have no way to concrete prove it, other than what I read and what these girls have told me in confidence. I think the bottom line is, if it was easy to enforce this type of problem then it really wouldn't be an issue. These underground networks are so good at scare tactics and intimidation, that no one dares to talk, for fear of what my happen to them or their loved ones. Whatever is my outlook, it keeps the prices low. As for the old lady, what she doesn't know won't hurt her, but where do you think I found her in the first place, she is a rescue, kind of one of the reasons I am making this point. I know I need to log more time in here and I will, I am a long time mongerer, but have just recently discovered this site, so far I really like it.
There have been dozens of convictions for trafficking (not enslaving) in Korean women in the US. It appears the only convictions have been of the 'middle men', not the top dogs, who I suspect are not even in the US. I am not arguing your theories or stance, just your claim of no convictions.
HW, I would be very amenable to changing my stance that the charge of trafficking in Korean women is a fact, rather than an allegation, and would be happy to post here that I stand corrected. However, before I do that I would need to see some credible evidence of convictions for trafficking in Korean women. If you can provide credible evidence of the dozens of convictions you speak of, please post it here. That might change how some of us approach the practice of patronizing Korean AMPs. I know it would change my approach.
Four For 5
02-05-08, 11:08
HW, I would be very amenable to changing my stance that the charge of trafficking in Korean women is a fact, rather than an allegation, and would be happy to post here that I stand corrected. However, before I do that I would need to see some credible evidence of convictions for trafficking in Korean women. If you can provide credible evidence of the dozens of convictions you speak of, please post it here. That might change how some of us approach the practice of patronizing Korean AMPs. I know it would change my approach.I'll chime in, despite my lack of previous posts. Hey, you gotta start somewhere.
If it were even partially a human trafficking situation, I'd think there would be a story on the other end.
Some may be aware that there has been a strong anti-American influence in South Korea for years. If a significant percentage of Korean women were being brought to the US, by which they incur a sizable debt, and are made to "work it off" in US AMP's, and occasional LE investigations allege human trafficking, where is the outrage in Korea?
Anyone recall how the rape of a Filipino woman eventually lead to the US Navy withdrawal from Subic Bay?
Vaginas999
02-05-08, 11:54
HW, I would be very amenable to changing my stance that the charge of trafficking in Korean women is a fact, rather than an allegation, and would be happy to post here that I stand corrected. However, before I do that I would need to see some credible evidence of convictions for trafficking in Korean women. If you can provide credible evidence of the dozens of convictions you speak of, please post it here. That might change how some of us approach the practice of patronizing Korean AMPs. I know it would change my approach.I think it just makes them easier to negotiate with. : )
Enuff of the slave stuff? Please.
Yesterday. Connie at Osaka. Awesome. Happy for 60 minutes. No chance of ever getting prostate cancer!
OK. Not Osaka of old. But still a great time.
Cheers!
Hard Working 19
02-05-08, 12:27
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2006/June/06_crt_366.html
HW, I would be very amenable to changing my stance that the charge of trafficking in Korean women is a fact, rather than an allegation, and would be happy to post here that I stand corrected. However, before I do that I would need to see some credible evidence of convictions for trafficking in Korean women. If you can provide credible evidence of the dozens of convictions you speak of, please post it here. That might change how some of us approach the practice of patronizing Korean AMPs. I know it would change my approach.
http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2006/June/06_crt_366.html
HW, you have done an admirable job of finding someone convicted of enslavement but there are a number of points to be made about the press release you posted.
1. First and foremost, nothing within the press release indicates the women were forced to provide sex. It's possible they did provide sex but the release clearly says their jobs were to entice customers of the enslaver to buy more liquor. It is unfathomable that if they were forced to provide sex the press release would not mention that fact.
2. The individual's business was a night club, and not a Korean AMP.
3. The women worked as hostesses rather than as masseuse's.
4. Reading the report linked at the end of the press release, it is conceded by the US Attorney General that, "Despite our record number of investigations and prosecutions, there is a noted disparity between the estimated number of victims and those who have been found and assisted. The Department realizes that it must address the incongruity between some estimates and the fewer than 1,000 victims who have been assisted through the efforts of federal, state, and local law enforcement since 2001, when services for trafficking victims were first made available under the TVPA. Though the possible reasons for this disparity vary, the difference nevertheless signals the need to carefully scrutinize the estimated number of trafficking victims to assure that it reflects as accurately as possible the actual number of human trafficking victims within our country."
The report estimates that 17,500 people are trafficked into our country each year. And yet, the study admits that they have only been able to help less than 1,000 victims? That's less than 200 per year. If the figures are correct, more than 86,500 "suspected" victims from 2001 to 2005 are still in servitude in the US of A.
If you go to part IV, page 17 of the study linked in the press release, you will see a box outlining the techniques used to address suspected trafficking. I don't argue that these techniques are ineffective but they have also been used to combat voluntary prostitution throughout the country. I truly believe this is more about combating prostitution than it is about human trafficking.
Finally, in addition to the points made above, there is still no credible evidence that the women we meet and enjoy in Korean AMPs are trafficked and enslaved by anyone.
I hope the nightclub owner in the press release received a full 25 year sentence and meets someone on the inside who objects to forcing humans to work against their will. But, again, I see no credible evidence of sex enslavement in Korean AMPS.
Hard Working 19
02-05-08, 22:04
HW, you have done an admirable job of finding someone convicted of enslavement but there are a number of points to be made about the press release you posted.
1. First and foremost, nothing within the press release indicates the women were forced to provide sex. It's possible they did provide sex but the release clearly says their jobs were to entice customers of the enslaver to buy more liquor. It is unfathomable that if they were forced to provide sex the press release would not mention that fact.
Well, you never said at AMPs, but check the Hawaii boards and read what Korean hostesses are about. Does it matter if they are working in a bar or parlor, if they are being forced to do it? Do I believe that Korean women are trafficked in the United States? Yes. I don't think it happens in this area, but there have been MAJOR busts in the past year in Los Angeles, San Francisco, New York, DC and Atlanta that are winding their way thru the courts. As I said in a previous post, I think only 'middlemen' have been caught and charged. I think the major players are in Korea and Canada. Just FYI:
Federal prosecutors announced Monday that a San Francisco brothel owner who was accused of participating in a human trafficking ring that brought young Korean woman to the United States has pleaded guilty to one count under the federal indictment. U.S. Attorney Kevin Ryan said Anthony Gar Lau, 46, of San Bruno, entered the plea before U.S. District Judge Charles Breyer in San Francisco on Friday. Ryan said that in his guilty plea, Lau admitted to running a brothel using undocumented women from overseas as prostitutes at the Golden Flower Steam and Sauna Spa at 215 2nd St. in San Francisco. Ryan said Lau admitted to concealing the prostitutes from detection by immigration authorities. Lau was one of 29 people indicted by a federal grand jury last year on charges of alien harboring and money laundering in connection with a human trafficking ring that allegedly transported young women from Korea to San Francisco for coerced prostitution. As part of the plea agreement, Lau agreed to forfeit $1 million to the U.S. government. The amount represents his proceeds from harboring aliens, Ryan said. According to court documents, the trafficking process typically began when recruiters in Korea and the United States identified women in Korea who wanted to come to the United States, often to make money to support their families in Korea. The recruiters would then arrange for the transportation of the women to North America. In some cases, the recruiters provided the women with false immigration documents to enable the women to enter the United States illegally. In other instances, the women were taken into the custody of other handlers in Canada or Mexico and then smuggled into the United States. The complaints allege that, by the time the women arrived in the United States, they had incurred large financial debts, usually in the tens of thousands of dollars, to the recruiters in Korea and other members of the defendants' organization. Middlemen in the United States arranged for the women to be placed in one of the network’s numerous brothels and then transported the women to the brothels. In many cases, the brothels purported to be legal enterprises such as massage parlors, health spas and acupuncture clinics, but in fact generated the vast majority of their revenue through illegal prostitution. Once the women were delivered to the brothels, they were placed under the supervision and custody of the brothel owner or manager, who frequently took possession of the women's identification and travel documents, including passports, to restrict the ability of the women to leave. The complaints charge that the women then began working in the brothels as prostitutes, typically with their earnings credited against their outstanding debts to the members of the criminal organization. In some instances, the women were threatened or led to believe that if they left the prostitution business before paying off their debts, they would be turned over to United States law enforcement or immigration authorities, or that their families in Korea would be harmed. The intercepted telephone conversations revealed that the women were routinely traded and exchanged between and among the various brothel owners and managers, sometimes as often as several times per month, until they worked off their original debts to the defendants. When a new worker was needed, the owner or manager simply placed a call to a middleman or transporter, who located a woman who fit the manager's need and arranged for the transportation of the woman to the new brothel. In addition, the middlemen assisted the brothel owners in sending prostitution proceeds and other funds overseas through unlicensed Korean money transmitters. Prosecutors said, "This case is a reminder that large-scale human trafficking occurs every day, right in our own cities and neighborhoods. The United States government is dedicated putting an end to this type of trafficking, and to punishing those who seek to profit from the sexual exploitation of others."
The Chronic
02-05-08, 23:14
Sex slavery goes on everywhere, even in the U.S. Whether Koreans, Dominicans, Russians and Eastern Europeans, etc., it has been happening for a long time. Most likely, to some extent, even here.
But a slave in the US is still probably a better life than where they came from.
John Kelly
02-05-08, 23:43
Saints preserve us!!! Jackson, my brother, can't we have a separate compartment for this slavery thread? Perhaps 'the sociology of massage parlors' or 'indentured servants of the sex trade'...or something!!! These sorts of philosophical discussions are getting in the way of reports on providers. Sheeeesh!!!
We've taken the discussion elsewhere. I agree it's gone too far.
Bird of Prey
02-08-08, 00:54
The premise of this and other boards of this type is the discussion of dating info that can benefit ourselves and others. Let's do that now.
I spent the past few days in Tampa on business. I brought along the laptop and used it last night to get info on the massage parlors in the area. Based on the cryptic info shared I went to the yellow pages to look for the Aloha with no luck, Nightmoves was no help either.
The one bit of info I was able to determine from the yellow pages was most of the rub&tugs were on or around Kennedy street. I have no problem going in and saying no to an offer.
CeCe greeted me at the door of the Japanese Spa, right across from the 5 Star Spa and in the same parking lot as the Sun Spa. (None of which were listed in the phone book.) She was probably 35+, decent and outgoing. As soon as I hit the shower table, her hands were repeatedly playing in my nether regions.
No discussion of additional price, no negotiation, no games, no BS. She knew what and why and how. It was a refreshing end to a good trip. I left about half of what the hours massage cost for her tip and she seemed pleased.
I don't go to an AMP to take advantage of another human being. If they were to ask for help, I think any of us would whatever we had to. CeCe didn't strike me as needing any help. She was making a living doing what she choose to do and did it very well. I'll be back again in a few months.
Hey friends,
I'm new to Tampa.
Can anyone please help me out in selecting a good massage parlor for FS in Tampa?
Thanks in advance
Can anyone please help me out in selecting a good massage parlor for FS in Tampa?
Sure...check the Hillsborough County Sheriff's page and scan arrest records.
Member #4175
02-14-08, 18:51
Sure...check the Hillsborough County Sheriff's page and scan arrest records.I'm guessing he can do that through their 'intranetwork'.
Trendz Tampa
02-16-08, 00:24
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=08009843
Sure...check the Hillsborough County Sheriff's page and scan arrest records.
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=08009843So is the address in that arrest link Gold Spa? Looks like it is?
No new post in here in a while.
I will be in town. Can someone give me a fast reply by today/tomorrow on a place I should try?
Thinking of Aloha. What do you think of that? Any better ideas? Osaka?
I know, too many?
Marks
I was in Tampa 4 yrs ago and 3 yrs ago and had a HE at Yoshikos both times, but hear that it's closed. True or false? Two yrs ago I went to go to Yoshikos and ended up at an AMP next to a McDonald's. Can't remember the name, but also had a HE there. Both places had lovely babybacks . I'm coming to St. Pete this weekend and could really use some help finding the best place there with 'long hair babybacks.
Chicago Vtwin
02-25-08, 23:07
Tampa is one of my favorite business trip towns because of the weather and recreational activities. Stopped at Osaka for the first time and met Jenny. Very good massage. Walk on the back and very good shiatsu. The place could use a cleaning service. Standard AMP finish. 8 at the door and. 4 for Jenny. Would visit again but wouldn't be first or second choice.
http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/586123063.html
Tampa Monger
02-26-08, 04:23
http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/586123063.html
She's not a rip off, if that's what you're asking. I've never seen her myself, but I researched her a bit and I actually met her once when I went over to AVX, although I ended up seeing a different girl.
My understanding is that she gives a good BBBJ.
Is she Asian?
Tampa Monger]She's not a rip off, if that's what you're asking. I've never seen her myself, but I researched her a bit and I actually met her once when I went over to AVX, although I ended up seeing a different girl.
My understanding is that she gives a good BBBJ.[/QUOTE]
Tampa Monger
02-27-08, 14:26
Is she Asian?
She is not Asian.
Thanks, I sent her an email and she got back to me already. Hope to meet her this weekend. White, 5'3, 112 lbs, 34B. Sound like her?
Nicole
I have driven past the J Spa (Japanesse Spa) on Gandy and westshore now for several months in route to and from work. I did my research spoke with a couple of mongers and decided tonight I would give them a shot. I got there and first off the door was locked with the open sign on. I called the number and the mamason came to the door. I went insode asked too seewho was working and mamason asked for money. I said I would like to see the girls first but showed the cash. She stumbles a bit and says I can't they are busy. I said so how long she says well never mind you go. I explain my trip across the ond to stop in and she says no you go and sends me packing. I will never go there again. Thank goodness pine tree was open. Had a good experience and will go back to pine tree again. I hope the j spa goes out of business after the way I was treated tonight. YMMV but that's my experience and will nevertake that chance here again.
Thudpucker
02-28-08, 09:58
My understanding is that she gives a good BBBJ.I've seen her privately several times for decent FS but CBJ only. She'd send me e-mails occasionally asking if I wanted to get together again. When I responded to one of those that I'd be more likely to see her more often if BBBJ was on the menu, I never heard from her again.
Any buddy been to Osaka lately? The two times I went I guess was at the end of their glory (8 months- year ago). Would like to re-visit but not if a waste of $$. I'm mainly looking for rub and tug and a little fondling on my part.
Could someone send me an PM with info on a good massage with fs gfe ending? The niper would appreciate the help! Are there any clubs noted for good places to pick up girls in the area?
Vetteman35
02-28-08, 19:14
Dont waste your time.
Typical shop girl.
Not very pretty either.
You can do much better elsewhere.
Tampahunter
02-28-08, 21:18
Still make regular trips there. You're right, not like the glory days, but a good standard rub and tug. All girls have allowed roaming.
Tampahunter,
Thanx for the reply. What has been the going tip rate these days? I'm sure room fee is still the same. I know back then they never even asked about tip, just left what you felt was apporpraite. Still the case?
Tampahunter
02-29-08, 23:24
Schlong, In the old days, when service was exemplary, I never went above three Jax. Nowadays, never more than two. Never been asked, never been denied due to habits and frequency. I just give the amount and don't look sheepish.
DaveMongersFo
03-05-08, 00:37
I lived in Tampa (Brandon) about 12 years ago. At the time, the AMPs were awesome and Mons was already famous (at least locally). But I am depressed to hear the mixed reports about JS and Y's. Since I will only be back for 3 days, I don't want to experiment with trial and error. Does anybody have a 1st choice? If you are ever in California (SFO/Oak), I can return the favor.
I have always had a good experience at Yoshiko and Seven star spa. They are both on kennedy west of Dale Mabry. Alway had good looking girls and very friendly. Very GFE when I went. But I am a regular to both so that may be a factor.
I have always had a good experience at Yoshiko and Seven star spa. They are both on kennedy west of Dale Mabry. Alway had good looking girls and very friendly. Very GFE when I went. But I am a regular to both so that may be a factor.Hey friends,
I have been staying in Tampa for past 1 year. Never tried Massage, can anyone plz suggest good place where they provide full service along with rates plz.
Thanks in advance.
[QUOTE=Jonnyspec]I have always had a good experience at Yoshiko and Seven star spa.
Ditto the Yoshiko. Young, pretty and friendly ladies. Very small rooms, so if you are claustrophobic, it may be a problem for you. It's in a strip mall, so it's easy to avoid being conspicuous. I prefer AMPs that are attached to other businesses, so you have another reason your car could be parked there.
Have a great time.
North Jersey
03-12-08, 23:54
Good 10:30am session this morning with a cute 23 year old Japanese girl. 80 + 40 for rub and tug. Nice slim body with perky tits. Offerred FS for $200. Told me the $40 was special only for me and normally it was a $100. Who are they kidding?
Nice and clean Wednesday.
TremontTeddy
03-13-08, 19:55
[QUOTE=Jonnyspec]I have always had a good experience at Yoshiko and Seven star spa.
Ditto the Yoshiko. Young, pretty and friendly ladies. Very small rooms, so if you are claustrophobic, it may be a problem for you. It's in a strip mall, so it's easy to avoid being conspicuous. I prefer AMPs that are attached to other businesses, so you have another reason your car could be parked there.
Have a great time.
I like places that have parking in the rear, that way no one see's me.
TT
TremontTeddy
03-13-08, 19:58
I think this place has closed. Lights been off for over a week and no answer on the phone.
All the advertising and 24/7 operation was not gonna fly in that neighborhood IMHO.
TT
Good 10:30am session this morning with a cute 23 year old Japanese girl. 80 + 40 for rub and tug. Nice slim body with perky tits. Offerred FS for $200. Told me the $40 was special only for me and normally it was a $100. Who are they kidding?
Nice and clean Wednesday.Thats a great price for Yoshiko. Maybe mornings are the time to go? She wasn't kidding about the normal price btw, and ive never seen them go that low.
Anyway, not to bring up a useless topic, but I find it interesting. I think its pretty unlikely around here that she was actually Japanese. I know Yoshiko is a Japanese name, so I wonder if its protocol to just tell customers they are Japanese assuming we don't know any better. I had one at Yoshiko recently tell me the same thing, but didn't fit your providers description, and definitely didn't look Japanese to me. However, she did stick to her story when I challenged her on it :-). I may be a bad judge, but are the girls here all Japanese? I just assumed they were all Korean.
[QUOTE=Jaws Iii]
I like places that have parking in the rear, that way no one see's me.
TT
I was at Park Massage a couple of years ago, parked in the back. I came out the back door and uncle leo was there. I got in my car and drove away, with him right behind me. That's the problem with the back door. There's no other reason for you to be there. At least in a strip mall I have a chance to go into another establishment, thereby lessening my direct connection.
There was a post a few years back about LE taking pictures of cars at a Sarasota AMP, with the possibility of sending mail to their addresses. Ergo, my preference for the connecting businesses. Either way, as we know, there is a risk we all take. I always feel the most vulnerable as I am leaving the establishment. After about 2 blocks I breathe easier.
I'm probably overly paranoid, but I've been at this hobby for a few years without a problem, so caution has been appropriate so far. Just my 2 cents.
Thats a great price for Yoshiko. Maybe mornings are the time to go? She wasn't kidding about the normal price btw, and ive never seen them go that low...I may be a bad judge, but are the girls here all Japanese? I just assumed they were all Korean.
The 200 for F/S has been standard there for several years now. And I don't think ANY of them are Japanese - at least not in my experience. The Koreans have this market cornered.
At least in a strip mall I have a chance to go into another establishment, thereby lessening my direct connection.
Except that at a place like Yoshiko all the other shops in that strip mall close at 6pm.
Except that at a place like Yoshiko all the other shops in that strip mall close at 6pm.
My introduction to the hobby was at the Four Seasons. They had a bar next door. Finest arrangement I could have imagined.
If you frequent establishments late at night, it's always worse. Besides, don't you want to be early in the batting order?
North Jersey
03-14-08, 21:24
She spoke great english. She says she was from Tokyo, No Korean accent. 25 or so. Very slim, but great tits and beautful face! She says she was in LA before Tampa and that she liked LA better. No kidding!
Anyone know any college part timers for a traveling business men in Tampa?
Dodger Bulldog
03-14-08, 22:41
I was at Park Massage a couple of years ago, parked in the back. I came out the back door and uncle leo was there. I got in my car and drove away, with him right behind me. That's the problem with the back door. There's no other reason for you to be there. At least in a strip mall I have a chance to go into another establishment, thereby lessening my direct connection.Nothing happened to you though, right?
The jerk was just trying to intimidate you.
Once you get out the door with the deed done there is absolutely nothing LE can do to you. Unless they
have a video tape running inside the place that caught you in the act.
In which case it wouldn't even help if you came in through the AC vent...
And is very highly unlikely!
So relax my friend, not to worry.
DB
P. S. Nonetheless, I am pleased that there was so little crime happening that LEO had plenty of time to kill
eating donuts in an MP parking lot, getting off on watching someone go home.
No doubt a cheap thrill for them, huh?
Obviously, the powers that be ought to lay some of these jokers off and save the tax money.
The jerk was just trying to intimidate you.
Once you get out the door with the deed done there is absolutely nothing LE can do to you.
Several AMPs in Northern Virginia went down that way. LE staked out the parking lot and followed customers. Then stopped them on the street for "traffic" violations. Then proceeded to interrogate them about their activities in the AMP. Unsuspecting and scared dudes spilled the beans. LE later used that hearsay - along with the usual immigration charges - to shut the places down for a while.
Several AMPs in Northern Virginia went down that way. LE staked out the parking lot and followed customers. Then stopped them on the street for "traffic" violations. Then proceeded to interrogate them about their activities in the AMP. Unsuspecting and scared dudes spilled the beans. LE later used that hearsay - along with the usual immigration charges - to shut the places down for a while.
I would like to think that I am old enough and wise enough not to rattle under such circumstances. I am a firm believer in the Bill Clinton school of sexual escapades....deny everything until they have your DNA.
SirLickaLot
03-20-08, 19:48
I have only been to 1 spa. I go to indies.
Question is, how much is the door (house) fee at most places? TIA
I have only been to 1 spa. I go to indies.
Question is, how much is the door (house) fee at most places? TIA
Generally, 60 for half hour, 80 for full hour
Clinton Bush
03-21-08, 20:32
[6] review. Visited recently and had a pudgy K girl (3 of 10) with acne. Uninspired ts and lackluster massage helped me have difficulty getting up for the grand finale. Something just rubbed me the wrong way. Asked about lecture but way too pricey espec after the tedious preamble. Actually happy session was finally over. Overall (1 of 10) but only because she helped me find my missing sock) Total damage 1. W/ undeserved tip. Would not repeat
Back in town after 6 year absence. (a) Anyone know whereabouts of Sonya from ETS or Hot Terri (b) Anyone ever partake of this provider. Samantha Redd in St Pete? (c) Anyone know of mamasan who provides? Espec busty, older? Thanks for any 411
CB
Clinton Bush
03-21-08, 20:59
Can report several young females entering the theatre at Grady yesterday night. Just took care of business in the peep area so I did not follow.
Picked up Nightmoves rag and saw ad for ETS. Anyone try Yoyo, the cute asian spinner? Backchannell, if good results.
Also miss Sonya from ETS? Is she still in the business anywhere? Went to ETS and looked around last week but no one of interest in lineup so walked out.
CB
TremontTeddy
03-23-08, 20:39
With Gold Spa “temporary” closed and Osksa only a shell of itself, I was left to find a replacement this weekend when the need aroused.
I find myself at in the empty parking of Magic Spa, the open sign is on and I go in. Pay the ˝ hr fee and lead to the room by a young spinner.
Opt for the table shower which was ho-hum, massage was just passable, then the flip. We negotiate for FS, my initial offer of $.4 is meet with $$. I counter with $.6 only cause she’s a young spinner, but she holds her ground at $$. I tell her no thanks, and try to call her bluff, no dice. I get dressed and walk out.
No hard feelings with the place, but there prices are not in my budget. I’m sure there will be someplace else more then happy to take my hard-earned money. Sometimes this a trial and error game.
TT
With Gold Spa “temporary” closed and Osksa only a shell of itself, I was left to find a replacement this weekend when the need aroused.
I find myself at in the empty parking of Magic Spa, the open sign is on and I go in. Pay the ˝ hr fee and lead to the room by a young spinner.
Opt for the table shower which was ho-hum, massage was just passable, then the flip. We negotiate for FS, my initial offer of $.4 is meet with $$. I counter with $.6 only cause she’s a young spinner, but she holds her ground at $$. I tell her no thanks, and try to call her bluff, no dice. I get dressed and walk out.
No hard feelings with the place, but there prices are not in my budget. I’m sure there will be someplace else more then happy to take my hard-earned money. Sometimes this a trial and error game.
TTIt sucks they want be like another yoshiko.Nothing like the old good days in osaka a 3 some with Ana and Penny for $$
Hello Friends,
Next time you are with Ana and Penny do the following;
1. Immediately tell me where they are.
2. DO NOT pay them $$, pay what everyone else was paying $.40 each.
OK is it just me or am I completely tired of not getting my Osaka fix.
Penny, YaYa, and Miko I miss you a lot.
I sit here while my load remains in my shaft destined to rot.
If you come back I promise to contribute more bucks.
Instead of my usual 40 Ill give up 60 for one of those legendary F***s.
Oh I miss the smell of asian noodles and isopropyl alcohol.
You girls take care, good luck on deportation, and we miss yall.
Made it over to Osaka early on Sunday. The yellow pages said it opened a 9 am and I showed up right on the dot. No response to my knock. Came back after 15 and knocked on back door this time. I could hear someone cleaning house so I knocked harder. An attractive pale korean lady, with reddish hair who looked to be late 30s early 40s came out in tiny pink shorts and said to come back in 15. I came back in 20, door was still locked, and nobody answered my knock. Had to be somewhere at 10: 30 so I regretfully gave up for the time being. Decided not to return later because of the reports of the quality slide. Went to Osaka over a year ago right before the final bust and experienced my only AMP BBBJTCIM. I still dream about it.
Nightowl21
03-25-08, 16:28
First of all to the dude who recommended Oxygen Spa on Kennedy. DAMMMMMMMMMMM!
I was up for a little fun this weekend, so I dedcided to give Osaka (against my better judgement) a try. My little friend Judy has been away for a while but I was told last time she would be back. I figure I'll go there looking for her, and lf someone else as appealing is available, great, if not. Next place. The door opened and some flat assed crusty old hag leads me to a room, and before she can ask for the fee, I ask if Judy is there. "NO Judy". Ok, do you know when she'll be back? NEVER! "But I was told she would be back very soon". She turns around and walks toward the door and comes up on mamasan, going off in Korean or whatever. Oh well f*** them anyway. What a waste of once was. I hope they go under.
Next I try Nagoya looking for my regular who as of several weeks ago was on "vacation". Oh well, same scenario: If someone as good, fine, if not.
Again older lady, very petite, nice tight little body, but just didn't do it for me. Gets mad when I ask for my little friend. And off I go.
Then I decide to try Oxygen based on a report from here. He said try Tina but when the person came to the window, I was pretty impressed (but it wasn't Tina). I had "scouted" here once before but it just didn't appeal to me. Much different this time. Had no idea what would take place, but wtf. Went to the room, fee was $80. Room was alright, but the room door was a curtain not a regular door (red flag). Table shower was mediocre, no "special attention", (2nd red flag. Uh oh). Next the massage. AWESOME! I would say top 3 all time, very nice. I figure if I TOFFT, at least the massage was nice. Next she (oh yea. 5'5, pretty, nice bod, pink tank top, white miniskirt. Solid 7. 5 on the scale) went to head of the table and started on my back. I accidently brushed across her bare thigh. Heyyyyyyyyyy, then again, and again. I guess this was the signal she was waiting for, because after a couple minutes, the lights go down and it's HAPPY TIME. Very nice technique. Multiple variations, and lots of switching up. WOWWWWWWWWWWW. Hands begin to probe (mine not hers). Nice little derierre, really smooooth. Tries to move away, but my hand is caught up. Darn, but doesn't try too hard though. Goes at it for a while; usually by now they are whining and bitching. "come on. Hurry up". But not her. Stuck with it, might I add a lesser man would have been cleaning off the ceiling, she was THAT good. Finally reached blast off. She was very pleasant cleaning up and then the hot towel. Never asked for a tip, acted like she didn't even care, but I gave her a well deserved $40 and she was very appreciative, although never even counted it. Very classy. I thoroughly enjoyed the visit and may have found a new regular place. Highly recommended. To the person from here with the referral for Oxygen, thanks again. If not for you, I would have never thought of going here. I really owe you, and thanks to the site for the forum for this type of info sharing.
Good luck!
Clinton Bush
03-25-08, 21:30
Made it over to Osaka early on Sunday. The yellow pages said it opened a 9 am and I showed up right on the dot. No response to my knock. Came back after 15 and knocked on back door this time. I could hear someone cleaning house so I knocked harder. An attractive pale korean lady, with reddish hair who looked to be late 30s early 40s came out in tiny pink shorts and said to come back in 15. I came back in 20, door was still locked, and nobody answered my knock. Had to be somewhere at 10: 30 so I regretfully gave up for the time being. Decided not to return later because of the reports of the quality slide. Went to Osaka over a year ago right before the final bust and experienced my only AMP BBBJTCIM. I still dream about it.Today, you got lucky. You can RTFF and be assured that the level of service has plummeted. The fact that the korean lady ignored you and was more interested in vacuuming her rug, rather than having you vacuum her rug, speaks volumes. Consider yourself richer and wiser. Looks like (with the possible exception of Gold Spa) the Tampa scene for amps is pretty dismal. Check the St Pete and Orlando forums for some alternative suggestions.
CB
TremontTeddy
03-26-08, 19:51
First of all to the dude who recommended Oxygen Spa on Kennedy. DAMMMMMMMMMMM!
Then I decide to try Oxygen based on a report from here. He said try Tina but when the person came to the window, I was pretty impressed (but it wasn't Tina). I had "scouted" here once before but it just didn't appeal to me. Much different this time. Had no idea what would take place, but wtf. Went to the room, fee was $80. Room was alright, but the room door was a curtain not a regular door (red flag). Table shower was mediocre, no "special attention", (2nd red flag. Uh oh). Next the massage. AWESOME! I would say top 3 all time, very nice. I figure if I TOFFT, at least the massage was nice. Next she (oh yea. 5'5, pretty, nice bod, pink tank top, white miniskirt. Solid 7. 5 on the scale) went to head of the table and started on my back. I accidently brushed across her bare thigh. Heyyyyyyyyyy, then again, and again. I guess this was the signal she was waiting for, because after a couple minutes, the lights go down and it's HAPPY TIME. Very nice technique. Multiple variations, and lots of switching up. WOWWWWWWWWWWW. Hands begin to probe (mine not hers). Nice little derierre, really smooooth. Tries to move away, but my hand is caught up. Darn, but doesn't try too hard though. Goes at it for a while; usually by now they are whining and bitching. "come on. Hurry up". But not her. Stuck with it, might I add a lesser man would have been cleaning off the ceiling, she was THAT good. Finally reached blast off. She was very pleasant cleaning up and then the hot towel. Never asked for a tip, acted like she didn't even care, but I gave her a well deserved $40 and she was very appreciative, although never even counted it. Very classy. I thoroughly enjoyed the visit and may have found a new regular place. Highly recommended. To the person from here with the referral for Oxygen, thanks again. If not for you, I would have never thought of going here. I really owe you, and thanks to the site for the forum for this type of info sharing.
Good luck!
Nice report! TT
TremontTeddy
03-26-08, 19:53
Today, you got lucky. You can RTFF and be assured that the level of service has plummeted. The fact that the korean lady ignored you and was more interested in vacuuming her rug, rather than having you vacuum her rug, speaks volumes. Consider yourself richer and wiser. Looks like (with the possible exception of Gold Spa) the Tampa scene for amps is pretty dismal. Check the St Pete and Orlando forums for some alternative suggestions.
CB
Gold Spa is "closed."
I think I have to make a trip accross the bridge to AHola, the one near BK, for reasonably priced FS.
TT
[Looks like (with the possible exception of Gold Spa) the Tampa scene for amps is pretty dismal. .
CB[/QUOTE]
What about Yoshiko? It's been a while since I visited, but my experiences there were excellent, though a bit costly. I had considered driving across the bridge in your direction for a change of pace, but not if Yoshiko isn't what it used to be.
Rjinstpete
03-28-08, 02:03
Great massage, good rub and tug. Tina is pretty and friendly but doesn't allow much touching on her end.
Gold Spa is "closed."
TT
The owner of Gold Spa also owned a spa in Atlanta. Both have been closed and, in addition to the cash found on the Tampa premises and confiscated, the owner's bank account and other assetts have been frozen. Anyone foolish enough to attempt reopening a spa there now will be subject to a great deal of scrutiny for a long time to come.
Master Diver
03-29-08, 17:34
[QUOTE=North Jersey]She spoke great english. She says she was from Tokyo, No Korean accent. 25 or so. Very slim, but great tits and beautful face! She says she was in LA before Tampa and that she liked LA better. No kidding!
Thought to try it out. 10:00 am, I was her first customer. Ok sauna and bath, nothing special. Said her name was Kim, when I left, said her name was Pepsi. While talking with her she said she was from LA. Small world. Ok massage, then wanted $$ for FS, and 1.5 for BJ, she had to settle for a 40 for a handshake. Not to happy about it, but an excellent handshake.
Good luck to the next one.
Clinton Bush
03-30-08, 02:39
[QUOTE=North Jersey]She spoke great english. She says she was from Tokyo, No Korean accent. 25 or so. Very slim, but great tits and beautful face! She says she was in LA before Tampa and that she liked LA better. No kidding!
Thought to try it out. 10:00 am, I was her first customer. Ok sauna and bath, nothing special. Said her name was Kim, when I left, said her name was Pepsi. While talking with her she said she was from LA. Small world. Ok massage, then wanted $$ for FS, and 1.5 for BJ, she had to settle for a 40 for a handshake. Not to happy about it, but an excellent handshake.
Good luck to the next one.
What is door fee at Yoshiko and does it include a table shower?
CB
What is door fee at Yoshiko and does it include a table shower?
60/80 and "yes". Although with the half hour session you can elect not to have the table shower.
First, stopped by Oxygen about 11:30pm. Lady at the window asked if I had an appointment. After waiting 2 or 3 minutes she told me that their 1 girl was busy and she paged another but no answer. Asked me to come back.
Visited Yokahama (I think) off Dale Mabry (I think). Very nice place in terms of decor. Candy was my gal. Said she was from Tokyo. She was probably in her mid-30's. Dressed in some kind of blouse over bicycle shorts. I would say a 6 in face and body. I could see she was wearing a bra so began to doubt fs, but she was very flirty. $0. 8 at the door for an hr. TS was pretty good. Rooms have regular massage tables and looked very official with health posters, etc. More worry about available service. Massage was pretty good and hard but not too hard. Before the flip, she asked me if I had been to these type places before and if I would take care of Candy. Then she talcumed (I think) my behind and commenced with one of the strangest work I have ever received in the poop shoot area. First I thought she was getting ready to shove something up there, and was about to protest, but it turned out to be some gentle rubbing and stimulation. Never experienced it, but it was enjoyable. Then the flip and a nice HJ to completion (said no sex). Allowed me to rub the kitty through the spandex which she seemed to enjoy and offered some colorful commentary. Gave her a $0. 5 tip which she seemed happy to get. Overall experience 7. 5 out of 10.
I stopped by Yoshiko tonight, and was greeted by I think her name was Mindy, or Misty, or something along those lines. She was OK looking, about a 6.5, but not Yoshiko quality, and definitely older than any other provider I have seen there. I went with it, figuring maybe she would make up for it in service.
Once in the room, she grilled me hard on if I had been there, etc. She seemed either pissed off, or tired or something. It was definitely a bad vibe. I should have called it quits right there, but went ahead with the shower and paid the door fee. I tried to start some conversation to lighten her up, but she wanted to stay quiet, and mechanical. Once in the room, massage pretty much sucked, and still no conversation, or anything, just business. On the flip, since I don't do FS, she wanted $.5 for a french lesson. I have been to Yoshiko many times, and have never payed even close to this. She wouldn't budge on the price, so I packed up and left. There was no way I was going to pay that much for such a middle of the road provider.
Anyway, I hope this isn't a trend. I'm not cheap, but I refuse to pay inflated rates for crappy service. I was very polite, but made it clear to her why I was leaving, so hopefully they got the message. On the positive side, I learned a good lesson. Don't be afraid to walk out before paying the door fee if things are not starting off well, or in my case, after paying the door fee.
2 nights in a row. Hoping for FS. And being disappointed once again. Went back to Oxygen after being turned away (or invited to come back later, how ever you want to look at it). Saw Jenny. Real nice gal. I would say mid to late 30's. I'd rate her a 6. Not very flirty. Good TS. Massage was off the hook. She has magic feet. On the flip, ok HJ. Touching allowed. $0. 8 for an hour and $0. 4 tip. HJ only rating, 5 out of 10.
Nightowl21
04-02-08, 00:32
Hey, Jethro. Been there several times for my regular girl (on vacation dammit), and saw the girl you are talking about. Doesn't look too bad. Always wondered how she was. Went back two weeks ago and she told me my girl was on vacation, and she would help me. Was really tempted, but when it came right down to it, she just looked too dressed up. Nice hair, makeup, jewelry, and all. Like the pants a bit "looser". Nice report.
TremontTeddy
04-02-08, 19:04
. On the flip, since I don't do FS, she wanted $.5 for a french lesson. I have been to Yoshiko many times, and have never payed even close to this. She wouldn't budge on the price, so I packed up and left. There was no way I was going to pay that much for such a middle of the road provider.
Anyway, I hope this isn't a trend. I'm not cheap, but I refuse to pay inflated rates for crappy service. I was very polite, but made it clear to her why I was leaving, so hopefully they got the message. On the positive side, I learned a good lesson. Don't be afraid to walk out before paying the door fee if things are not starting off well, or in my case, after paying the door fee.
I did the exact same thing two weeks at Magic. Money talks or TT walks. I really like the AMP experience but its not the only game in town.
TT
SirLickaLot
04-02-08, 22:48
Check TBO.com for Article about Drew Park Undercover op.
Nightowl21
04-02-08, 23:34
Did anyone else read in the Tribune today that they are going to start cracking down on adult businesses in Drew Park, armed with $132, 000 of our tax dollars (said most of the money was to pay for "overtime", yeah I bet). Mentioned Lingerie Shops and AMP's. I'm not from Tampa. Is Drew Park considered the AMP's on Kennedy? Thanks and take care.
Lagermorph
04-03-08, 09:59
I have been reading the posts for direction for a while, and tried Yoshiko last week. Had a girl named Pepsi, tall well curved, not a perfect butt, but ok. I liked her bangs and straight black hair. Wanted a TS, but was occupied which caused her some distress. She cracked my neck and back on the table as I waited for the TS, actually she was very good at it. OK TS, and after we went back to the room, there was some half harted rubbing and then straight to business. $$ got CBJ and any position wanted. Overall a good experience if you can get past the small rooms, sometimes I like my space.
I'm not from Tampa. Is Drew Park considered the AMP's on Kennedy?
No. Drew Park is the business/industrial district west of Dale Mabry Hwy and east of Tampa Intl Airport.
Master Diver
04-04-08, 12:52
I have been reading the posts for direction for a while, and tried Yoshiko last week. Had a girl named Pepsi, tall well curved, not a perfect butt, but ok. I liked her bangs and straight black hair. Wanted a TS, but was occupied which caused her some distress. She cracked my neck and back on the table as I waited for the TS, actually she was very good at it. OK TS, and after we went back to the room, there was some half harted rubbing and then straight to business. $$ got CBJ and any position wanted. Overall a good experience if you can get past the small rooms, sometimes I like my space.
I had the offer from her, but have gotten FS now for $, when I returned. Next time -- offer less get more. Please.
I had the offer from her, but have gotten FS now for $, when I returned. Next time -- offer less get more. Please.
We need to remember, these girls earn the bulk of their money from tips. When we refuse their "services" on account of inflated prices, they get nothing. But if you do a repeat visit, she'll not likely try to up sale you because she knows you'll walk again. So in that case it is better for her to give it up for $ rather than get nothing a second time. Yeah, you get the pouty face and the complaints but you'll get your desired action.
Nightowl21
04-04-08, 22:47
I agree. Whenever I go to one of the "expensive" places, I usually say "is? Here" (a previous girl long gone). Mamasan of course says "try new girl, very goood". I'll come back with "I just like? , I know her". I'll 'relunctantly' let them talk me into it. When you get to the room the new girl will always ask how many times did you see? , what did she do? , etc. They always seem glad you stayed. When it comes time, and they give a crazy $$$, I'll looked confused and say something like "wow, ? Only charged.---. They act shocked, but usually agree to it (better than nothing). She will remember that you saw? "10 times". Economy is bad for everyone right now, and as one of my favs said recently "business veeerrrrry slow". I had a subpar experience at Yosh recently (agreed to terms, but still thought she was worth more than actual), but she was still pretty hot. Pretty hot with limp personality than ugly chick GFE (IMHO). Just my two cents worth. I don't know about the rest of you, but I don't make $60-$100 an hour, not too bad. They need us as much as we need them.
Good luck and be safe.
Lagermorph
04-05-08, 08:23
Thanks for the advice guys, I didn't realize there was so much room for negotiation. I will try to haggle a bit next time.
Well, I decided to head back to one of my favorite rub and tug spots. I tried one of my old favorites on our douche bag presidents street, but they were closed. They've been closed for awhile but I thought I saw an open sign during the day when I drove by. Then I wanted to feel Aurora but they were also closed. Now to my report.
Ever since my 1st massage experience, I've been searching for that rush. The rush you get the 1st time you goto an AMP. I remember my 1st time, the girl had me shaking with the soft touch, I didn't think I would make it and was about to tell the girl to stop. I've had some great massages over the years but never like the 1st time until tonight. Now keep in mind this is just a rub and tug.
I knew I was in for a good night when the girl was walking behind me and I heard her say "hmmm" and take a deep breath while checking out my ass. I asked for a soft massage and boy that is what I got. For a good 1/2 hour I got special attention to the boys and my with my cock in her hand the whole time. Just told me whenever you're ready to turn over let me know. I turned over and let her know I wanted the soft touch on my front and boy that is what I got. For a good 15 minutes I got the soft touch with plenty of attention to the boys. Then just when I thought it couldn't get any better it got better, 100X's better. She would jerk me off and just when I was about to pop she would stop. She did this atleast 20X's, I kid you not. She kept blowing over my cock while I was getting the handshake. Plenty of hand roaming by my part, although I was respectable and kept it over her clothes.
She finally asked "if I was ready" and reached for the lotion and finished me off. Hands down this was the best tease and masage that I ever had. And I'm like Johnny Fukin Cash, I've been eveywhere man, I've been everywhere. There's enough heat out there from these scumbag cockroaches, so I'm gonna keep this place on the down low. It's not a new place and it has been reviewed on here before, so PM and I'll be happy to give a name and place. No Newbies Allowed!!!
TremontTeddy
04-06-08, 10:24
In my humble opinion, this forum is about exchanging information not writing penthouse letters.
TT
In my humble opinion, this forum is about exchanging information not writing penthouse letters.
TTSorry, you feel that way. Maybe, if you messaged me like the other 20 people did so far I could have exchanged more information. There was plenty of information that I provided, like the 2 places that were closed which is odd for a Saturday night and I gave a description on the services I received. I tell you what, why don't you start your own forum and set your own rules on how people should post, in the meantime, leave me alone.
Clinton Bush
04-07-08, 22:51
In my humble opinion, this forum is about exchanging information not writing penthouse letters.
TT
Which of course is to encourage "creative writing" skills. If we are ever questioned by Johnny Law about any activities described here, we naturally must reply that we are a bunch of braggarts who in turn each make up fictional stories that are beyond belief, each in hopes of topping the previous one.
As for me, I enjoyed blanco22's adventure and pm'ed him asking for some pointers so I could find and write about my own adventure in the same venue.
Personally, I much prefer a vivid description to a dry numeric rating scale.
Tampa Dave has a well written and humorous review on the St Pete massage forum. Lines like "We did some algebra and turned CBJ into the number 69." are classic.
My all time favorite review (maybe some of the old timers here remember it and/or even wrote it) ended with the line "Just then, a swallow flew by".
Classic stuff and colorful writing with good punctuation and grammar (thanks for moderating Jackson!) makes this board entertaining as well as informative. Just my 2 cents. YMMV.
CB
Lagermorph
04-15-08, 08:57
I just wanted to share another report. I'll try to give some description, without becoming too explicit.
I went to Nagoya (sp? ) on Kennedy, and was not hopeful. The mamasan who greeted me was very small, maybe 4'10", but she made up for it in attitude. I got the full hour with TS and she was very playful with roaming hands and she really seemed to be enjoying herself. When we got back to the room she asked how I wanted my massage. I replied "very light" and she knew just what I needed. This was no full service, but she was very good at what she did. After she had me drained, she had me flip back over and walked on my back. I probably tipped more for the back walking than the other. She was an artist, she hit every vertibre and when she was finished my back felt the best it has in the past ten years. 8 for hr, . 4 tip which seemed much appreciated. Sorry, I do not remember a name.
Rjinstpete
04-18-08, 19:20
I was looking for a nice massage today. I don't like having my time wasted with showers, saunas, and steam. I can do that at a health club. For 80 dollars plus a HEAVILY UPSOLD tip of 140, I got 25 minutes of service. Her real mission was to do the deed and get me out. Attractive but BORING!! And I am 6' 208 lbs and in good physical condition. I'm not some fat hairy out of shape OLD and ugly pig. I would not go back.
Clinton Bush
04-19-08, 11:15
I was looking for a nice massage today. I don't like having my time wasted with showers, saunas, and steam. I can do that at a health club. For 80 dollars plus a HEAVILY UPSOLD tip of 140, I got 25 minutes of service. Her real mission was to do the deed and get me out. Attractive but BORING!! And I am 6' 208 lbs and in good physical condition. I'm not some fat hairy out of shape OLD and ugly pig. I would not go back.
This is not a potential marriage situation where you physical shape may matter to them. The girls at an amp are paid to provide a level of service to all customers. As long as you are clean, respectful and treat them right, it should not matter whether you have the body of a gym weight room instructor or a 50 lb beer belly. They are paid to provide a level of service.
Thanks for your review RJ. Another rip off joint to avoid.
Thanks for your review RJ. Another rip off joint to avoid.[/QUOTE
My experience with Yoshiko, though not extensive, is far from a rip off joint. Although it has been a while, I had several sessions with very pretty and enthusiastic young ladies who provided above average performances. In fact, multiple cups were offered one time, one of the few times that has happened to me at an AMP. It might have cost me a few more bucks, but I am more than willing to pay for superlative auditions. I prefer quality over bargains any day...at my age, I prefer to savor one bottle of a fine wine than to down a half a dozen beers. Also, I dont think that the terms "fat, hairy out of shape OLD and ugly pig " applies to me. And not just because I have average hair coverage, exercise regularly, don't have to sneak up on a mirror to shave, and have never been confused with any members of the porcine family. Behaving like a gentleman goes far in any situation, including this hobby.
Just my 2 cents, from an OLDER perspective. And as usual, YMMV.
My experience with Yoshiko, though not extensive, is far from a rip off joint.
My experience has been frequent but not recent. Not really a rip-off joint but it has become a tad pricey.
Clinton Bush
04-19-08, 20:38
My experience has been frequent but not recent. Not really a rip-off joint but it has become a tad pricey.
Maybe "rip off" was a bad choice of words. I've never been there. But when someone says they received poor service and implies that the service might be even worse for someone with a bit of a beer gut or a few grey hairs, then that irks me. I have no problem if the amp worker gives bad service to a guy who shows up drunk or unclean, smells bad or otherwise acts like a jerk.
But most of us don't look like Brad Pitt (if we did we'd be at home with Angelina), and (I think) most of us here try to arrive clean, showered and try to treat the ladies like gentlemen. When that happens and a decent tip is offered, then poor service is inexcusable.
Personally, I'd rather spend my money where it is appreciated. YMMV.
CB
My experience here lately has led me to think the service level at Yoshiko has gone down hill, and in general ymmv, but I think the overall service level has definitely decreased. As I reported in my last post about this place, I ended up walking out of the session, due to poor service, and attitude from the provider. Yes, it was that bad. The crazy upsell above the Yoshiko norm for a HR, pushed me over the line, and I left. I used to go to Yoshiko to expect awesome level of service, and an attractive provider. Given their new pricing structure, and now lost level of service, I see this place is a true ripoff. I will not be back in the near future. There are too many better options out there.
Lagermorph
04-24-08, 16:05
I went to the Japanese Spa on Kennedy to try someplace new. I was greeted by a mamasan type lady, maybe 40's nice tits, OK face. She quoted me the. 8 for hour and said "you sauna first? " I said OK, only for a few minutes, but she had me strip in the room and took me to the sauna. She said "I be back ten minutes" which I countered, "Just leave me in here for five or so"
I kid you not, I was in there for 15 minutes before I finally got up and turned the sauna off. I thought I was going to have heat stroke. When the girl came back, she seemed annoyed I was annoyed at being left so long. We moved on to the TS, which I really needed by then. It was so-so, with her using the scrunchy thing and was very clinical.
I think she felt a little bad about leaving me in the sauna, because once we got into the room, her hands roamed freely on me, with particular attention to the boys. It was a quick tease and then the flip. She asked if she could get lotion, but I said I preferred her to use her mouth to get me wet.
I knew she felt bad about leaving me in the sauna when she just smiled and said OK. Excellent BBBJWCIM done slow and teasing and when she finished it was 20 minutes of relaxing rubdown. She didn't ask about a tip at all, of course I did leave one for the excellent ending. 8 door with. 4 tip.
I will return, but will not sauna ever again.
Clinton Bush
04-24-08, 22:32
I went to the Japanese Spa on Kennedy to try someplace new. I was greeted by a mamasan type lady, maybe 40's nice tits, OK face. She quoted me the. 8 for hour and said "you sauna first? " I said OK, only for a few minutes, but she had me strip in the room and took me to the sauna. She said "I be back ten minutes" which I countered, "Just leave me in here for five or so"
I kid you not, I was in there for 15 minutes before I finally got up and turned the sauna off. I thought I was going to have heat stroke. When the girl came back, she seemed annoyed I was annoyed at being left so long. We moved on to the TS, which I really needed by then. It was so-so, with her using the scrunchy thing and was very clinical.
I think she felt a little bad about leaving me in the sauna, because once we got into the room, her hands roamed freely on me, with particular attention to the boys. It was a quick tease and then the flip. She asked if she could get lotion, but I said I preferred her to use her mouth to get me wet.
I knew she felt bad about leaving me in the sauna when she just smiled and said OK. Excellent BBBJWCIM done slow and teasing and when she finished it was 20 minutes of relaxing rubdown. She didn't ask about a tip at all, of course I did leave one for the excellent ending. 8 door with. 4 tip.
I will return, but will not sauna ever again.
I never ever had a BBBJWCIM at an amp. The CIM is very unusual. Any idea if that is normally on the menu. PM me with any details if you would. Also I read that Japanese Spa is next to J Spa. Are they related? Same girls? Same menu? Thanks for any info.
CB
Member #4175
04-25-08, 06:32
I never ever had a BBBJWCIM at an amp. The CIM is very unusual. Any idea if that is normally on the menu. PM me with any details if you would. Also I read that Japanese Spa is next to J Spa. Are they related? Same girls? Same menu? Thanks for any info.
CBJapanese Spa is on Kennedy and J-Spa is on Gandy. The two used to be owned by the same people but I don't know if that is still true today.
The last time I ventured to either was maybe five years ago and both were very 'just OK' places. Both have had the rep in recent years as rub and tug places with less than beautiful providers.
Back in the Osaka heyday CIM was very common. How I miss Penny and Yumi. I agree that in the rest of the AMP scene it is pretty uncommon as are BBBJs to begin with.
I was halfway tempted to try Ocean Spa in Tarpon yesterday since I was in the area. Gave it a pass though because I couldn't find many reports.
Holy chit BBBJWCIM?
I've been to both J-spa and Japanese spa. One on Gandy, one on Kennedy.
Many times in the past although not recently.. When I did go the only thing avail was a HJ. I guess I'll be making a trip across the bridge!
But I never get in that sauna!
I went to the Japanese Spa on Kennedy to try someplace new. I was greeted by a mamasan type lady, maybe 40's nice tits, OK face. She quoted me the. 8 for hour and said "you sauna first? " I said OK, only for a few minutes, but she had me strip in the room and took me to the sauna. She said "I be back ten minutes" which I countered, "Just leave me in here for five or so"
I kid you not, I was in there for 15 minutes before I finally got up and turned the sauna off. I thought I was going to have heat stroke. When the girl came back, she seemed annoyed I was annoyed at being left so long. We moved on to the TS, which I really needed by then. It was so-so, with her using the scrunchy thing and was very clinical.
I think she felt a little bad about leaving me in the sauna, because once we got into the room, her hands roamed freely on me, with particular attention to the boys. It was a quick tease and then the flip. She asked if she could get lotion, but I said I preferred her to use her mouth to get me wet.
I knew she felt bad about leaving me in the sauna when she just smiled and said OK. Excellent BBBJWCIM done slow and teasing and when she finished it was 20 minutes of relaxing rubdown. She didn't ask about a tip at all, of course I did leave one for the excellent ending. 8 door with. 4 tip.
I will return, but will not sauna ever again.
Member #4175
04-25-08, 21:47
Holy chit BBBJWCIM?
I've been to both J-spa and Japanese spa. One on Gandy, one on Kennedy.
Many times in the past although not recently.. When I did go the only thing avail was a HJ. I guess I'll be making a trip across the bridge!
But I never get in that sauna!I used to visit J-Spa regularly about six years ago when they had a provider named Susan (or Susie depending on what name she gave out on any given day). She gave a great massage and a wonderful HJ but I never got anything more. I heard rumors that she spoke French fluently as well.
She left several years ago and on the my last visit (maybe five years ago, or just under) I had a bookish looking 20-something student who gave a very disconnected HE that left me feeling like I'd made some transgression just in expecting a release. I never went back and every review I read after that indicated the same sorry state of 'affairs.'
Well with Osaka going strong I never looked back and let the fingers, and other body parts, of far better providers do the walking.
Japanese Spa was much the same with a very out of shape mamasan always seeming to be the only one available. Yuck.
Four Seasons was my next favorite until it was raided. I hear some of the same girls are now at Pine Tree. If so I would recommend taking a trip to Pinellas and giving them a visit.
Tampa AMPs are kind of dead to me for the time being.
Don't get your hopes up about BBBJCIM. I'm thinking that dream was just that, dreaming.
Happy hunting.
Clinton Bush
04-25-08, 23:21
J
I was halfway tempted to try Ocean Spa in Tarpon yesterday since I was in the area. Gave it a pass though because I couldn't find many reports.
See reports about Spring Spa in St. Pete on the St. Pete forum. Its my new favorite. That place is a lot of FUN.
CB
Chase Star
04-26-08, 11:32
I'm thinking that dream was just that, dreaming.I was thinking the same thing. With no disrespect meant to the newbie who posted it and who I'm sure probably meant well in doing so, but 5 posts in about as many weeks on 5 different AMPS and all generally positive when we all know most of these places usually leave a lot to be desired?!? This guy is clearly heavily into his AMPs (and probably doesn't mind paying heavily for the experience). IMHO, he is not the most unbiased source of information nor the most credible.
[I knew she felt bad about leaving me in the sauna when she just smiled and said OK. Excellent BBBJWCIM done slow and teasing and when she finished it was 20 minutes of relaxing rubdown. She didn't ask about a tip at all, of course I did leave one for the excellent ending. 8 door with. 4 tip.
I will return, but will not sauna ever again.[/QUOTE]
Hey, for a bbbjwcim, they can cook me in the sauna 'til well done. It is a relative rarity in an AMP to receive such service.
My first time at an AMP was Four Seasons, and the cimws was what I got. Really warped me for future experiences, as I figured it was the norm. Since then, only three ladies ever provided that at an AMP (and one I had to grab by the ears to keep her from quitting). So if a little good old Catholic guilt helps provide that, I aint above using it. Go ahead and roast my a## in the sauna, it's worth it for that level of service.
Also, .4 tip is a huge bargain. Hell, they can cook me 'til burned for that.
BBBJWCIM at Japanese Spa on Kennedy.
Now that really is a dream.
Member #4175
04-27-08, 20:27
See reports about Spring Spa in St. Pete on the St. Pete forum. Its my new favorite. That place is a lot of FUN.
CBThanks, I did read your reports and it sounds like the girl you saw gave the AMP version of a PSE. The $$ is a little more than I'm willing to spend at the moment though, unless that includes the door fee.
Still I'll keep it in mind.
Member #4175
04-27-08, 20:43
BBBJWCIM at Japanese Spa on Kennedy.
Now that really is a dream.Maybe he was thinking this is TER and he has to embellish the activity level to give a higher numerical rating.
Not that that ever happens. 'cause I'm sure it doesn't. Really.
Four For 5
04-28-08, 11:00
Haven't heard of Ocean Spa
CBI had 3 dreams about this place.
First time, 8 door fee, mamasan took me through the door to go to the room and as we made our way down the hall she said something in Korean (I guess) towards a very young looking and qute asian girl. Oh yes! I thought. Let it be her! No dice, mamasan, who was in her 50's and not very attractive did the honors. TS, a nice light massage, and a HJ was all I was willing to dream from her. Thankfully she dimmed the lights quite a bit.
The chance of hooking up with the young'n made dream a second time.
Alas, no young'n, but someone else. Although she was a step up from mamasan. Thin, 40's, small boobs, maybe a 6 in the face. TS wasn't very inspiring, but FS was acheived for $. Like her chest the performance was kind of flat.
So I went for the 3's a charm thing and another 40ish, tan, with big enhanced boobs, a decent tush, another 6 in the face. TS, again, lacked any inspiration. All in all the same dream as the second one, just a slightly better view.
Clinton Bush
04-28-08, 19:08
Thanks, I did read your reports and it sounds like the girl you saw gave the AMP version of a PSE. The $$ is a little more than I'm willing to spend at the moment though, unless that includes the door fee.
Still I'll keep it in mind.
The $$ includes the .8 door fee. You will have a good time! Enjoy!
CB
Was just there. Went in waited about 2 minutes for girl to come to room. Once she came in we went right to the shower. That was enjoyable. She then took me back to room and asked what I needed. She first said no FS then I laughed and she laughed. She quoted her price would not negotiate. She was cute looked good. Her tits looked good in dress. I payed. She came back undressed and started massaging for 2minutes and then it took off from there. She did anything and everything. Her tits looked even better bare. However, when you touched them they were as hard as a rock. Not to big either. Looked almost natural but hard as a rock and of course they were not natural. I prefer more natural feeling. So overall she did her best to please and I finished the job so that's what's important! I would reccomend it. Does anyone know a place with non asian girls though?
Member #4175
05-07-08, 13:51
Do you ever wonder what has happened to any of your favorite Osaka girls from the good ol' days?
In my experience the majority of the AMP girls rotate in and out on a regular basis but many of the Osaka girls were here long enough to put down roots.
In particular I miss Penny and Yumy. Even though Penny was faaaar from a stunner she always performed with skill and enthusiasm. I guess I hope that one day I'll come across them (pardon the pun) at one of our area AMPs.
Lagermorph
05-10-08, 08:37
I went back to Japanese spa, hoping to relive my good experience, but it was not meant to be. When I arrived, I did not see my new favorite provider, but rather a younger girl, who was a little plump: but it looked good on her. I got the feeling this would not be a repeat when she asked me if I wanted a sauna and I, naturally, refused. She seemed rather put out that she couldn't leave me in a hot box to roast for 10-15 minutes of my 60. We had a fun TS, with her being playful with the scrubber and her hands. So I felt this would end well.
When we returned to the room she walked on my back, and gave an ok rubdown. When it came time for the flip, she started talking money. At the time, I had very little blood going north, so I was not the best negotiator. I gave her. 6 for a HE which I thought would be a little more than her telling me to pump my hips while she squeezed.
Not an experience I would want to repeat, but as they say YMMV.
Have fun
L
I went back to Japanese spa, hoping to relive my good experience, but it was not meant to be. When I arrived, I did not see my new favorite provider, but rather a younger girl, who was a little plump: but it looked good on her. I got the feeling this would not be a repeat when she asked me if I wanted a sauna and I, naturally, refused. She seemed rather put out that she couldn't leave me in a hot box to roast for 10-15 minutes of my 60. We had a fun TS, with her being playful with the scrubber and her hands. So I felt this would end well.
When we returned to the room she walked on my back, and gave an ok rubdown. When it came time for the flip, she started talking money. At the time, I had very little blood going north, so I was not the best negotiator. I gave her. 6 for a HE which I thought would be a little more than her telling me to pump my hips while she squeezed.
Not an experience I would want to repeat, but as they say YMMV.
Have fun
L
I'm sorry, but both of your reports sound unusual for Japanese Spa.
This has always been a rub & tug only establishment.
The first post regarding bbbjcim is farfetched.
If any senior members here have had similar experiences at Japanese Spa and can corroborate I'd like to hear about it. :)
The suspicious part of the second post is that she asked for $ up front. These girls are specifically told by the owner NOT to ask for money. They perform the tug, and the customer is expected to tip accordingly. If a customer does not tip well, they will not be welcomed back with any enthusiasm.
Girls do come and go there, and occasionally they get one that has experience working a full service place. They usually don't last long. They move on to make bigger, faster bucks.
But I suppose it is possible that you run into one who provides exceptional service once in a blue moon. It is going to be the exception rather than the rule.
The suspicious part of the second post is that she asked for $ up front.
Well, if you ventured down the street to Yoshiko, you'd get the basic scrub and massage and after the flip the negotiations start. Now generally the girl will ask "What you like?" If you reply "Everything" then she'll counter with the mandatory donation.
In the heyday of Tampa AMPs the donation was well established and especially if you were a repeat customer with a girl, no discussion was necessary. Osaka was best for this... alas.
Clinton Bush
05-11-08, 11:00
I'm sorry, but both of your reports sound unusual for Japanese Spa. This has always been a rub & tug only establishment.
The first post regarding bbbjcim is farfetched.
If any senior members here have had similar experiences at Japanese Spa and can corroborate I'd like to hear about it. :)
I regularly go to a local amp and have bbbjcim and greek multiple times in 3 girl sessions. The cost is .2 and all the girls have natural 38 DDD breasts and speak perfect English. No one smells of kimchee, they all like to DFK and after the session is over they all come out to wax my truck.... (of course this only happens on a soft mattress after I nod off for the evening in my dreams)
Hehehe, Vitamin P, maybe you are on to something here ... ; )
CB
Tampahunter
05-12-08, 19:35
Stopped by Osaka again today. New girl, Mina. Nice looking, small rack (A's), great spinner body. Nothing beyond the old rub and tug, but very good at her craft. Plan on trying with her again.
Nightowl21
05-13-08, 02:03
I went to Japanese Spa a while back and had a decent looking girl. She was about 5'6 maybe a little taller, nice legs, and what looked like bloodshot eyes. She looked kind of familiar, good enough to forgo my regular girl. After the flip, she asked how much, etc up front. Wasn't happy when I told her "usually $40". Said "usually more". To make a long story short, she said she used to work at Magic and Seven (across the way) and some other places. I'm 100% sure more was on the menu for the right price. I didn't care for her attitude so I passed, but this might be the one Lagermorph was referring to, although can't imagine she would do anything for nothing. Don't think I'd go back.
Stay safe.
Mister Fusion
05-13-08, 10:52
TOFTT at Yokohama.
Chubby, unattractive provider, average massage, only ok release.
Cheesy Rider
05-13-08, 16:20
TOFTT at Yokohama.
Chubby, unattractive provider, average massage, only ok release.
I was there last week and got the most unsatisfying massage of all time. Might be the same girl. Her entire technique focused on digging in between the muscles on my arms and legs right down to the bone. There's no way in hell she's certified by the state. Lackluster release.
Went by Yoshiko om kennedy on Saturday. Was meet by mama san for normal door charge. 8 for an hour. Went to the room and in came a 8. 9 on a 10 scale in looks. We got to talking and I said $. She said $$. I said I would stick with the massage which of course was not the best. I would love to know who is over tipping there. They have ruined a good place. I'm used to be a regular there go figure. Say non. The least mamma san came out and said for me to come back another time a try out different girl and she gave me back half my door few. I think that was because I was a regular and she knew I had gotten better service in the past.
So please who every is over tipping please think be fore you do. You are making it hard on the other hobbyist out there.
Went by Yoshiko om kennedy on Saturday. Was meet by mama san for normal door charge. 8 for an hour. Went to the room and in came a 8. 9 on a 10 scale in looks. We got to talking and I said $. She said $$. I said I would stick with the massage which of course was not the best. I would love to know who is over tipping there. They have ruined a good place. I'm used to be a regular there go figure. Say non. The least mamma san came out and said for me to come back another time a try out different girl and she gave me back half my door few. I think that was because I was a regular and she knew I had gotten better service in the past.
So please who every is over tipping please think be fore you do. You are making it hard on the other hobbyist out there.I have also stopped frequenting Yoshiko because of this problem. I don't mind paying extra for the good looks, but the bad service I won't pay a premium for.
Did I dream this?
Stopped by Seven Stars on Kennedy. Was told by my buddy to see Yummi but of course "she on vacation". So saw Loobie (maybe Ruby) 30's a little chunky, cute with big nattys. Very good TS. A little too much negotiating for me, but finally 1.4 was agreed (wanted 2) for everything. Not crazy but got into it enough and seemed to enjoy it a lot. Started with a lil lick then CBJ, moved to mish and then finsihed dog. Then a pretty good medium massage, she actually seemed to know what she was doing.
All in all a decent experience and a very nice girl.
Clinton Bush
05-16-08, 17:44
Did I dream this?
Stopped by Seven Stars on Kennedy. Was told by my buddy to see Yummi but of course "she on vacation". So saw Loobie (maybe Ruby) 30's a little chunky, cute with big nattys. Very good TS. A little too much negotiating for me, but finally 1.4 was agreed (wanted 2) for everything. Not crazy but got into it enough and seemed to enjoy it a lot. Started with a lil lick then CBJ, moved to mish and then finsihed dog. Then a pretty good medium massage, she actually seemed to know what she was doing.
All in all a decent experience and a very nice girl.
Never heard of this one. Is it new? What is the house fee? How old was the provider? I may have to check this one out. Thanks for any info. You can pm me if you like.
CB
Tampahunter
05-16-08, 20:31
Tried Osaka again last night. Got Mina again, same great service, but when I tried to up the ante, no dice. Even after the first meeting and recognition; seems like this is definitely off limits still.
Did I dream this?
Stopped by Seven Stars on Kennedy. Was told by my buddy to see Yummi but of course "she on vacation". So saw Loobie (maybe Ruby) 30's a little chunky, cute with big nattys. Very good TS. A little too much negotiating for me, but finally 1.4 was agreed (wanted 2) for everything. Not crazy but got into it enough and seemed to enjoy it a lot. Started with a lil lick then CBJ, moved to mish and then finsihed dog. Then a pretty good medium massage, she actually seemed to know what she was doing.
All in all a decent experience and a very nice girl.
Rofl...."you have prayed with my rust wrong enough....."
Probably Ruby......
Member #4175
05-17-08, 20:58
Rofl...."you have prayed with my rust wrong enough....."
Probably Ruby......
A few years ago there was a girl at Aloha on Ulmerton who I thought told me her name was 'Loopy', and given that she had a ditsy personality I thought the name fit.
She was a bit taller than the other K-gals I'd seen and had a really nice body so I called before my next trip to make sure she was there. I asked the mamasan for Loopy which confused the hell out of her...
..until she realized I meant Ruby. Oops, my bad. Damn Engrish Plonunciation.
[QUOTE=EyeLuvMassage]A few years ago there was a girl at Aloha on Ulmerton who I thought told me her name was 'Loopy', and given that she had a ditsy personality I thought the name fit.
She was a bit taller than the other K-gals I'd seen and had a really nice body so I called before my next trip to make sure she was there. I asked the mamasan for Loopy which confused the hell out of her...
..until she realized I meant Ruby. Oops, my bad. Damn Engrish Plonunciation.[/QUOTE
Funny as hell....
I met her as well, and had the same problem, except that I figured it out before I called. Not the right idea to make up a name you can't pronounce. But it was still a hoot to figure out what to call her. Loopy? ROFL
I love it when they say, "Whood you rike to rick my critolis?" :)
Tried Mina at Osaka, would rate her average at best due to poor attitude.
Session started out pretty good, so I was surprised after about 20 minutes when she announced "I can't do that all the time, it's not my job. You know that. I'm a masseuse. " Well, I guess I don't know that, because I thought it is her job.
Oh well. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. There are enough girls out there that do want us to return, Tina at Oxygen being one of them.
Cheers!
Cheesy Rider
05-19-08, 20:50
I've always had friendly masseuses there but never able to get any of them naked. Are the current employees a little more "enterprising" than before?
Clinton Bush
05-20-08, 01:07
Tried Mina at Osaka, would rate her average at best due to poor attitude.
Session started out pretty good, so I was surprised after about 20 minutes when she announced "I can't do that all the time, it's not my job. You know that. I'm a masseuse. " Well, I guess I don't know that, because I thought it is her job.
Oh well. Nothing ventured, nothing gained. There are enough girls out there that do want us to return, Tina at Oxygen being one of them.
Cheers!
I sure wish I had had the chance to visit Osaka during it's heyday. I read so many good reports in the archives. Sounds like it went downhill fast and from recent reports ...that it has not gotten any better. Thanks for taking one for the team. So where is the best amp in Tampa? I have only been to the amps in St. Pete. Please pm me w/any suggestions. Thanks so much.
CB
Member #4175
05-20-08, 06:31
I sure wish I had had the chance to visit Osaka during it's heyday. I read so many good reports in the archives. Sounds like it went downhill fast and from recent reports ...that it has not gotten any better. Thanks for taking one for the team. So where is the best amp in Tampa? I have only been to the amps in St. Pete. Please pm me w/any suggestions. Thanks so much.
CB
It's funny that we talk about Osaka 'back in the day' like it was twenty years ago. Hard to believe it was only a year and a half ago that they were raided.
What Osaka had going for it was the biggest bang for the buck in any AMP I've seen before or since. Maybe not the most beautiful girls but by far the best service at an unbelievably reasonable price. Unfortunately it became a victim of its own success and the attention it received as a result. The goose got killed and there aren't any more golden eggs.
R Consultant
05-20-08, 07:42
Osaka was the real deal until the bust. Now its a hit or miss from what I read. I used to go there and once a place gets on the hit list I avoid it. Aloha on Ulmerton seems to avoid the hit list but the location 5th ave n gets busted. Figure that one out for me. Also the Aloha on Ulmerton has bebe which is alot of fun but the on 5th ave you have an older grumpy lady which isnt worth the time of day.
I personally go with Aloha on Ulmerton as I enjoy the staff there and I think they are alot more fun to be around.
Happy Hunting..
It's funny that we talk about Osaka 'back in the day' like it was twenty years ago. Hard to believe it was only a year and a half ago that they were raided.
What Osaka had going for it was the biggest bang for the buck in any AMP I've seen before or since. Maybe not the most beautiful girls but by far the best service at an unbelievably reasonable price. Unfortunately it became a victim of its own success and the attention it received as a result. The goose got killed and there aren't any more golden eggs.
I've always had friendly masseuses there but never able to get any of them naked. Are the current employees a little more "enterprising" than before?I have been recently, and its still the same. Not naked, but great massage.
Nightowl21
05-21-08, 01:44
Sup dudes! Since I hadn't had a decent meal in a while, and based on a recent review from one of our renowned food critics here on the board. I decided to dine at the Osaka bar and girll. Upon arrival, I was greeted by a very nice looking waitress, straight from the Tokyo Hooters. Tight little body, nice legs and great smile. Very impressed, made me really "hungry". After some pleasant conversation, she took me to the kitchen. Lovingly washed the items that would be brought out later, especially thorough job on the meat and potatoes. Next she led me back to the dining area. Lowered the lights, put on some soft music and made it extremely soothing. After some more friendly conversation, as well as getting me totally relaxed and stress free, I was really anticipating the "house special". She asked me if I wanted to face the other direction, so I did, I could see much better now. She brought out meat stick and began to prepare it. Unlike most meats, this one, the more you "tenderize" it, the firmer it becomes. She applied some olive oil and really went to work on it. She had an excellent technique. There were some nice melons nearby so I figured I'd checked the ripeness. It took me a while, but after much examination, I came to the conclusion that they were all natural, not processed. Very nice. Also within reach was a very inviting rump roast, actually smooth but firm under the wrapper. At this point the the meat stick was almost ready to be finished. She whipped up some cream to go with it. Wow, she really did an awesome job, however, it can get a bit messy, so after I was done, she brought me a hot towel and helped me clean up. All in all, it was a really great dining experience. I asked if there were other courses on the menu, but alas, they only serve appetizers. Anyway, I left duly impressed and satisfied. I give it an enthusiastic thumbs up. I would definitely recommened it as long as you aren't expecting a buffet, but do enjoy a nice "happy hour".
Bon Appetit!
Clinton Bush
05-21-08, 20:34
Sup dudes! Since I hadn't had a decent meal in a while, and based on a recent review from one of our renowned food critics here on the board. I decided to dine at the Osaka bar and girll. Upon arrival, I was greeted by a very nice looking waitress, straight from the Tokyo Hooters. Tight little body, nice legs and great smile. Very impressed, made me really "hungry". After some pleasant conversation, she took me to the kitchen. Lovingly washed the items that would be brought out later, especially thorough job on the meat and potatoes. Next she led me back to the dining area. Lowered the lights, put on some soft music and made it extremely soothing. After some more friendly conversation, as well as getting me totally relaxed and stress free, I was really anticipating the "house special". She asked me if I wanted to face the other direction, so I did, I could see much better now. She brought out meat stick and began to prepare it. Unlike most meats, this one, the more you "tenderize" it, the firmer it becomes. She applied some olive oil and really went to work on it. She had an excellent technique. There were some nice melons nearby so I figured I'd checked the ripeness. It took me a while, but after much examination, I came to the conclusion that they were all natural, not processed. Very nice. Also within reach was a very inviting rump roast, actually smooth but firm under the wrapper. At this point the the meat stick was almost ready to be finished. She whipped up some cream to go with it. Wow, she really did an awesome job, however, it can get a bit messy, so after I was done, she brought me a hot towel and helped me clean up. All in all, it was a really great dining experience. I asked if there were other courses on the menu, but alas, they only serve appetizers. Anyway, I left duly impressed and satisfied. I give it an enthusiastic thumbs up. I would definitely recommened it as long as you aren't expecting a buffet, but do enjoy a nice "happy hour".
Bon Appetit!
Are you the guy on the food channel they call "the Iron Chef"? Nice report Nightowl, as you say if you go looking for just an appetizer then it can be very satifying but if you go expecting a feast you may leave hungry.
CB
Tampa Monger
05-22-08, 14:22
Sup dudes! Since I hadn't had a decent meal in a while, and based on a recent review from one of our renowned food critics here on the board. I decided to dine at the Osaka bar and girll. Upon arrival, I was greeted by a very nice looking waitress, straight from the Tokyo Hooters. Tight little body, nice legs and great smile. Very impressed, made me really "hungry". After some pleasant conversation, she took me to the kitchen. Lovingly washed the items that would be brought out later, especially thorough job on the meat and potatoes. Next she led me back to the dining area. Lowered the lights, put on some soft music and made it extremely soothing. After some more friendly conversation, as well as getting me totally relaxed and stress free, I was really anticipating the "house special". She asked me if I wanted to face the other direction, so I did, I could see much better now. She brought out meat stick and began to prepare it. Unlike most meats, this one, the more you "tenderize" it, the firmer it becomes. She applied some olive oil and really went to work on it. She had an excellent technique. There were some nice melons nearby so I figured I'd checked the ripeness. It took me a while, but after much examination, I came to the conclusion that they were all natural, not processed. Very nice. Also within reach was a very inviting rump roast, actually smooth but firm under the wrapper. At this point the the meat stick was almost ready to be finished. She whipped up some cream to go with it. Wow, she really did an awesome job, however, it can get a bit messy, so after I was done, she brought me a hot towel and helped me clean up. All in all, it was a really great dining experience. I asked if there were other courses on the menu, but alas, they only serve appetizers. Anyway, I left duly impressed and satisfied. I give it an enthusiastic thumbs up. I would definitely recommened it as long as you aren't expecting a buffet, but do enjoy a nice "happy hour".
Bon Appetit!
I'm generally a buffet kind of guy. At the very least I like a girl to taste my meat stick without the wrapper.
Man, I miss the old Osaka.
Chase Star
05-25-08, 17:54
I was driving up N. Dale Mabry (just north of Linebaugh) today and noticed a HUGE banner announcing "Oriental Massage Coming Soon" on the left hand side. I'm not so sure such a high-profile way of announcing their arrival to the such an upscale neighborhood was the best way for them to go but it will be interesting to see how an MP will fare in an area that has long been lacking in any business of that nature. Will keep you posted.
Years back was VIP spa in same area. Stayed a couple years. Never was overly busy. Never partook due to it's precarious location.
Clinton Bush
05-26-08, 00:32
I was driving up N. Dale Mabry (just north of Linebaugh) today and noticed a HUGE banner announcing "Oriental Massage Coming Soon" on the right hand side. I'm not so sure such a high-profile way of announcing their arrival to the such an upscale neighborhood was the best way for them to go but it will be interesting to see how an MP will fare in an area that has long been lacking in any business of that nature. Will keep you posted.
I think you are correct. Locating an AMP in an upscale section of town, rather than an industrial park, just tends to get more complaints and keeps LEO watching very closely. I think we can forget about it becoming the next Osaka based on location alone.
CB
ok I broke down and went to Osaka today. Mine is cute. Great massagy. Have her walk on yer back. Dassa vey nice. Although facial cum shots and three girl Greek scream parties are not likely available other than in my distant memory of those good old days. She gave a nice tug. Nice titty play allowed. Not bad really. Had fun. Cute girl. Happy ending.
Keep banging
Went there last weekend and had just an amazing experience. The provider was not really clear with her name so I just let it go. She gave an amazing table shower cleaning every nook and cranny with great care. The massage was actually really good; back walk was a little rough, but felt great when she was done. On the flip she did this thing with her hands that nearly made a handshake unneccesary. I wish I could describe it, but the words honestly escape me. No tip negotiation, just went right to it like it was SOP. When I get back to Tampa I plan on making another visit because that was AWESOME. I wish they had places like that here in Orlando.
That place is freakin' awesome. I didn't quite understand my provider's name, but she did one hell of a job. TS was great; all the areas were given the proper attention. The massage was wicked; I'm not much of a back walker, but she did a great job on that. On the flip she did this thing with her hands that I really don't have the words for; all I can say is that a handshake was almost unneccesary. No tip negotiation; seemed like everything was just SOP and part of the service. I will be making a trip back there; I wish they had places like that here in Orlando.
Whale Hunter
06-07-08, 23:48
Visited on Friday for my biweekly adjustment with Gene and was told by Tina that she moved on for greater pay. Any one who has tried Tina knows that she gives a fantastic massage, so I went for that.
Gene wasn't the best looker, but man she had great hands. I like it hard, and she really did it to me.
Any one have any idea where she might have moved to?
Also, there are 2 new girls now at Oxygen. Any one try them yet?
Earlier in the week, I made the mistake of trying the place on Dale mabry, just north of Kennedy on the left side. Japanese name, forgot what it was.
Same 80 at the door but zero extras. I have to hand it to the place tho. It was spotless clean. Nice steam rooms, nice lockers. The minute I got onto the table shower, I should have known this was a mistake. She had me wash the good stuff myself while she was hiding behind a small towel. Massage was OK, nothing like Gene or Tina, and I did not leave happy. O well. Now I know.
Last week, I TOFTT and wasted 80. and I'd lay long odds that YMWNV (your mileage will not vary).
Well appointed place, lots of staff (?), owners (?) including several young oriental guys. English was pretty good all the way around. Nothing but a slick CJ (con job) . No redeeming value at all.
Luckily, Tina at Oxygen was available, so the day was not wasted. Cheers!!
PeterPiper52
06-08-08, 13:26
Is Oxygen Spa in Tampa or Tarpon?
I thought that I'd read somewhere that it's in Tarpon.
Pink Chaser
06-08-08, 14:29
tttttetert
Whale Hunter
06-08-08, 17:42
Is Oxygen Spa in Tampa or Tarpon?
I thought that I'd read somewhere that it's in Tarpon.The Oxygen I am referring to is on the south side of Kennedy, about 2 blocks east of Dale Mabry.
Regarding the new help. One is a new temp lady. She looks to be 50. The other has been there for a while. I think her name is Lucy. Had her once because both Gene and Tina had their hands full.. Highly UNrecommended. Felt very rushed.
My recommendation for Oxygen is if Tina is not available. Keep on going.
So where is Gene?
Chocolatelover
06-08-08, 19:38
Went to Oxygen on Kennedy for the first and last time this afternoon. Maybe AMPs just aren't my thing. 8 door. TS and back rub with Ruby/Lucy. Tina swapped out with her half way through. Expectation was. 4 more for tug. I used to be good at math. A total of 1. 2 for a tug job? For. 1 to. 3 more (sometimes less when the specials are running), I can get FS off a CL provider with a body type more to my liking. Though I'm new to all this, it just doesn't add up for me; but the rest of you guys have fun, if this is your thing.
Member #4175
06-08-08, 19:54
Is Oxygen Spa in Tampa or Tarpon?
I thought that I'd read somewhere that it's in Tarpon.
Ocean Spa is in Tarpon, Oxygen Spa is in Tampa
Darkpassenger
06-09-08, 00:26
Now I have got to try Oxygen Spa, and Tina; how do I find it?
EDIT: nevermind, I didn't read below enough - thanks.
Choc lover. It's not just about money. Try convenience, walk in service, no phone calls or appointments needed, and anonymity (sp? ).
Craigslists girls come with ripoffs, a provider get your cell # and possibly your email. Making appointments which get blown off regularly, directions to this weeks incall location, boyfriends in next room (or worse cats or 100lb mastiffs). Questions about when were the last time sheets were changed, stings etc.
I much rather spend a little more, go on a moments notice or urge, have a fair understanding of what I am getting and be completely anonymous. Thats worth an extra $20 or two to me.
[QUOTE=Earlier in the week, I made the mistake of trying the place on Dale mabry, just north of Kennedy on the left side. Japanese name, forgot what it was.
Same 80 at the door but zero extras. I have to hand it to the place tho. It was spotless clean. Nice steam rooms, nice lockers. The minute I got onto the table shower, I should have known this was a mistake. She had me wash the good stuff myself while she was hiding behind a small towel. Massage was OK, nothing like Gene or Tina, and I did not leave happy. O well. Now I know.[/QUOTE]I've been to this place a few times and never had that bad of an experience. I didn't get the idea there were extras but the TS was very good with lot's of washing the good parts. The massage was decent with some very nice light back area/ball playing Asian style. The flip was as expected with some groping and licking by me. All in all a decent no extra's time.
Darkpassenger
06-10-08, 21:24
That's moment's notice / urge comment is completely on the money.
A lot of us have to take those opportunities to pursue the hobby as they come along, and we just can't be dialing in some sweetie who needs a day's notice, or can change her mind at the last minute and not make the date.
And as far as money goes, a lot of us older guys get to a certain point in life where you have to think "What hell am I working for, if it isn't to enjoy my life the way I like to enjoy it, when I can? " And I enjoy dreaming some damned fine dreams, so I don't mind paying up as long as I have it.
The anonymity aspect is also crucial; unlike the guy who slides out and tells a little white lie so he can play golf and gets busted with a laugh and some extra honey-do's, getting busted pursuing THIS hobby can blow your life up.
So until the US gets civilized and lets women use their bodies to earn the best living they can (just like us guys can do digging ditches) I think the points made by Amperage are damned on target!
Choc lover. It's not just about money. Try convenience, walk in service, no phone calls or appointments needed, and anonymity (sp? ).
Craigslists girls come with ripoffs, a provider get your cell # and possibly your email. Making appointments which get blown off regularly, directions to this weeks incall location, boyfriends in next room (or worse cats or 100lb mastiffs). Questions about when were the last time sheets were changed, stings etc.
I much rather spend a little more, go on a moments notice or urge, have a fair understanding of what I am getting and be completely anonymous. Thats worth an extra $20 or two to me.
Have some of the places stopped offering Half Hour service?
I am in a hurry so I will spell these wrong.
Went to Yocohoma (ON Dale Mabry) said No Half Hr.
Nagoya (On Kennedy) No Half Hr.
Jap.Spa(Other side of DaleMay on kennedy)Said No Half Hr.?
Never Ran into this before? So whats up?
R Consultant
06-11-08, 10:01
Even providers that are more establishied dont do half hours much. I think its more about the money than anything and all the time involved to see you its not worth it them.
Happy Hunting..
Have some of the places stopped offering Half Hour service?
I am in a hurry so I will spell these wrong.
Went to Yocohoma (ON Dale Mabry) said No Half Hr.
Nagoya (On Kennedy) No Half Hr.
Jap.Spa(Other side of DaleMay on kennedy)Said No Half Hr.?
Never Ran into this before? So whats up?
Have some of the places stopped offering Half Hour service?
I am in a hurry so I will spell these wrong.
Went to Yocohoma (ON Dale Mabry) said No Half Hr.
Nagoya (On Kennedy) No Half Hr.
Jap.Spa(Other side of DaleMay on kennedy)Said No Half Hr.?
Never Ran into this before? So whats up?
Half hours were popular when the spas offered a full menu. The girls would more than make up for the lesser half hour fee with her gratuity.
Now that the spas are reduced to partial menus, elimination of the 1/2 hour means you're paying that extra 20 up front. And since the gratuity for the partial menu is considerably less, they have already recouped some of that loss.
Clinton Bush
06-11-08, 23:26
Now I have got to try Oxygen Spa, and Tina; how do I find it?
EDIT: nevermind, I didn't read below enough - thanks.
Tried Oxygen for the 1st time and asked for Tina. She is a very attractive young K girl. Maybe a little heavier than a AMP "spinner" but just slightly if at all. Not a big talker but this was my first session with her. A bit cautious with me, perhaps she warms up after repeat visits.
Opted for the full hour (1/2 is available here for those who are looking for a shorter session). Took the table shower which was very thorough and she made sure my entire body was clean, including those hard to reach places.
Returned to the room and had the massage which as others have noted here is very very good. For those looking for a good massage, Tina delivers. Extras were not on the menu other than the HE, but what a HE it was!
The lotion and the motion, soon produced the sea spray of the ocean. Overall an attractive, polite and classy provider. Great massage. Will appeal to the hobbyist who likes a good massage without much talking. Absolutely no upsell. Tipped .40 and left Oxygen very satisfied. Would recommend Tina for those who enjoy a great massage!
Thanks to those who have previously recommended and reviewed Oxygen.
CB
Whale Hunter
06-18-08, 21:33
Any one know if this is an AMP?
Thx for any info.
http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/717133296.html
Any one know if this is an AMP?
Thx for any info.
http://tampa.craigslist.org/ers/717133296.html
yes this is an AMP-I found this out when I called them!-located in Palm Harbor area on US 19
Whale Hunter
06-19-08, 12:05
yes this is an AMP-I found this out when I called them!-located in Palm Harbor area on US 19Cool, Thx.
Saved me a trip. Enough of those close to home and Kennedy.
Ocean Spa is friendly AMP, there is $60 for the hour coupon in Creative Loafing. I visited there once a few months back, full menu with upscale pricing.
yes this is an AMP-I found this out when I called them!-located in Palm Harbor area on US 19
Whale Hunter
06-20-08, 19:17
Had to pop over to my favorite massage parlor for an adjustment, and as usual lately Tina is busy. The woman at the door looked interesting and I though what the hell. Her name is Maya or Mia, very short but great front on her. I would say 35-40ish. She has to be new to this scene. The massage was A+.
A great massage is what I go there for. The HE is just the fun part.
It seamed she was still figuring out the ropes for the hand shake and I cant give her more than a 7. She needs to learn a few more moves. lol
but if its a massage you want, and specially a hard one, add her to your list.
Tina is great for a soft / medium massage.
jene (gone) and now Maya are great for hard.
Well worth it.
I also went to Oxygen on Saturday. Old two story house. All rooms on second floor. I saw maya also, She was new at his and cautious. The thing I did not care for were the curtains versus a real door to the room. Everytime the staircase creaked, she would cover me with a towel.
I did like that there was no negotiations. Just accepted what I gave her at the end. $40 tip. Decent massage, better than average finish.
http://www.hcso.tampa.fl.us/pub/default.asp?/Online/qdisp/bn=08039271
John Kelly
06-27-08, 23:12
Huh??? I thought Osaka was only good for a tug, at least that's what the available intel was. And now the cops are making a bust in there?
It would be the height of irony if the cops were getting more than we were!!!
Unfreakinbelievable.
Tampa Monger
06-28-08, 05:52
Huh??? I thought Osaka was only good for a tug, at least that's what the available intel was. And now the cops are making a bust in there?
It would be the height of irony if the cops were getting more than we were!!!
Unfreakinbelievable.
It probably was a tug. Tugs are illegal, too.
Went to the Oriental Massage just north of Busch Blvd. On Dale Mabry a few days ago. Opted for the Grand Opening special of $69 for an hour massage.
Declined table shower and was led to my room by an oriental receptionist lady. A few moments later a moderately attracive Chinese lady (approx. 35 years old) named Cindy came in the room; she was dressed very conservatively in some sort of "karate-looking jumpsuit. " The only parts of her body that were exposed was her face, feet and hands.
Went stomach down for the part of the massage. Very thorough massage; obviously this lady is well-trained. Flipped over for the end stage of the massage. HE was refused. Being that I was quite excited by this time, I asked Cindy if I could take care of myself. She didn't object, and kept on massaging my thighs. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.
I was a little disconcerted by the experience, mainly because Cindy kept rubbing her body up against me throughout the massage. However, Cindy was very nice, and I think that more things will be on the menu in the future, once Cindy is more comfortable with me. Anyways, I still gave her a $10 tip.
Regards,
Toeman
R Consultant
06-29-08, 18:55
From my experiences if you dont go along with the TS theres a good chance the HE isnt going to happen. The TS is good way to get to know one another real quick like. If its all squared up in the TS the rest of the experience will go real smooth.
Next time take the TS and explore the one another and see what happens for your HE on the next go around. You will most likely be more pleased in the future visits.
Happy Hunting..
Went to the Oriental Massage just north of Busch Blvd. On Dale Mabry a few days ago. Opted for the Grand Opening special of $69 for an hour massage.
Declined table shower and was led to my room by an oriental receptionist lady. A few moments later a moderately attracive Chinese lady (approx. 35 years old) named Cindy came in the room; she was dressed very conservatively in some sort of "karate-looking jumpsuit. " The only parts of her body that were exposed was her face, feet and hands.
Went stomach down for the part of the massage. Very thorough massage; obviously this lady is well-trained. Flipped over for the end stage of the massage. HE was refused. Being that I was quite excited by this time, I asked Cindy if I could take care of myself. She didn't object, and kept on massaging my thighs. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.
I was a little disconcerted by the experience, mainly because Cindy kept rubbing her body up against me throughout the massage. However, Cindy was very nice, and I think that more things will be on the menu in the future, once Cindy is more comfortable with me. Anyways, I still gave her a $10 tip.
Regards,
Toeman
Thanks RC!
I think you're right on this one. I declined the TS because I live about a minute away and had just taken a shower. Usually, I happily accept the TS. Fortunately, the massage was good, so all was not lost. Live and learn.
Toeman
From my experiences if you dont go along with the TS theres a good chance the HE isnt going to happen. The TS is good way to get to know one another real quick like. If its all squared up in the TS the rest of the experience will go real smooth.
Next time take the TS and explore the one another and see what happens for your HE on the next go around. You will most likely be more pleased in the future visits.
Happy Hunting..
Clinton Bush
06-29-08, 21:10
Went to the Oriental Massage just north of Busch Blvd. On Dale Mabry a few days ago. Opted for the Grand Opening special of $69 for an hour massage.
Declined table shower and was led to my room by an oriental receptionist lady. A few moments later a moderately attracive Chinese lady (approx. 35 years old) named Cindy came in the room; she was dressed very conservatively in some sort of "karate-looking jumpsuit. " The only parts of her body that were exposed was her face, feet and hands.
Went stomach down for the part of the massage. Very thorough massage; obviously this lady is well-trained. Flipped over for the end stage of the massage. HE was refused. Being that I was quite excited by this time, I asked Cindy if I could take care of myself. She didn't object, and kept on massaging my thighs. A man's gotta do what a man's gotta do.
I was a little disconcerted by the experience, mainly because Cindy kept rubbing her body up against me throughout the massage. However, Cindy was very nice, and I think that more things will be on the menu in the future, once Cindy is more comfortable with me. Anyways, I still gave her a $10 tip.
Regards,
Toeman
Though the 69 dollar special is a bit of a tease, I wouldn't hold my breath on extras just based on the uniform and the area where the shop is located. My 2 cents. I do agree with RC that not taking the table shower was a bad move. That said, I would expect more chance of a HE if the shop is located deep in an industrial park rather than in Carrollwood. Stay safe.
CB
I just paid a visit to the new place on Dale Mabry. I had a very nice massage by a younger (than me) girl who was very cute, but not classically beautiful. She was dressed in something close to surgical scrubs, with a bad haircut but a very warm smile. She said she was from somewhere in China but her English was limited and I didn't figure out where.
I took the TS first, but even there, on the flip, my little guy was covered up with a wash cloth. The water and rub down on the table was very refreshing, if not erotic, but the table itself was one of the most uncomfortable things I'd ever been on. Maybe I was doing it wrong, but the place for your head was not well placed or something. It was okay once I got on my back.
Back in the room everything stayed covered and there was not even the hint of extras. For those of you interested in massage, the actual massage was a mix of nice medium work and then oil. She had very soft hands and also did my head which I love. Not really anything on the hands or feet, but that might be something in the longer massage.
They are offering $5 discount per 30 minutes, with sessions offered from 30-120 minutes in 30 minute increments. My impression is that most of the folks there are Chinese, and that they expect to be able to make a go with legitimate massage, although their pricing doesn't match up with some of the new therapeutic massage chains, which are closer to $40-50 per hour.
I'd go again for the massage, if I could get the same girl, but wouldn't expect anything beyond what I got this time. I suppose mileage could vary with other attendants, but I didn't notice anyone else that was my cup of tea.
Legalize it
06-30-08, 22:11
I suspect if you weren't offered any extras on the 1st visit, I doubt this place does extras. If they really wanted you to come back again, she would have offered something for you. If it is the same as any other AMP, it wouldn't make any sense for her to not offer you something extra. It sounds like a legit massage place. My advice is to move on somewhere else.
Declined table shower....
Anyways, I still gave her a $10 tip.
That's two strikes against you right there.
When you decline the shower, she isn't eager to get too close.
The girl wants to KNOW that you are clean in all the right places. Having just taken a shower means nothing to her if she didn't do the scrub.
When you give her a $10 tip you mark yourself as a cheapskate. These girls DO remember. It's unlikely that you will be welcomed back with much enthusiasm. Sure, if they aren't busy, she'll let you in, but don't expect much service.
No personal attack intended toward you here, but having dated some of these girls on the outside I know how and what they think.
Average service in a rub & tug gets an AVERAGE $60 tip.
Anything less is not worth their time. They could be taking care of a more appreciative customer. When you bump it up to $100 or more they start taking you more seriously.
Business is slow right now, but they still don't want work for nothing.
Whale Hunter
07-01-08, 22:36
Average service in a rub & tug gets an AVERAGE $60 tip.Does every one agree with this?
I always leave 40$ and thought I was doing good.
Nothing more than a R&T is on the menu where I go mind you.
Just want to know if I have unknowingly been a cheapskate.
Member #4175
07-02-08, 07:46
Does every one agree with this?
I always leave 40$ and thought I was doing good.
Nothing more than a R&T is on the menu where I go mind you.
Just want to know if I have unknowingly been a cheapskate.
It's not really useful to generalize as far as rates but I'd say $40 is perfectly alright in many of the strictly rub and tug places. Heck, $40 used to be the going rate for FS at Osaka for the half hour and $60 for the hour. I never followed those guidelines because to me that didn't jibe with the excellent service they provided.
The problem with making a blanket statement that 'all' places expect $60 is that all places are not equal. FS at one place (think Ulmerton) might run $100 to $120 while at another $200+ (US19 in PH). It can even vary with different girls at the same establishment.
In my personal experience there have been plenty of places where $40 was a very well received tip for a handshake.
I do very much agree that opting out of the TS is never a good idea. Cleanliness, or the perception by the provider there of, is more likely to lead to happiness at the end.
I've been all over the map on this, and have frankly never been sure what was right. Anywhere from .3-.6, and have had some providers who expected a full $. Ironically it's the ones that are the least desirable and provide the worst service seem to be the ones who think that a handshake is worth a full bill.
Does every one agree with this?
I always leave 40$ and thought I was doing good.
Nothing more than a R&T is on the menu where I go mind you.
Just want to know if I have unknowingly been a cheapskate.
Azmodeus56
07-02-08, 12:06
The problem I have with your statement is that if the standard prices are 40/60/100 and someone starts paying 100/150/200 then that is what they start expecting from everyone. I had one place I used to go to and for a long time it was the 40/60/100 rates then the last time I was told that the prices now start at 100. 100 for a damn hj she better be using a gold glove. What I'm trying to say is if you have money to spare please think of those of us who don't have money coming out of our ass.
It's not really useful to generalize as far as rates but I'd say $40 is perfectly alright in many of the strictly rub and tug places. Heck, $40 used to be the going rate for FS at Osaka for the half hour and $60 for the hour. I never followed those guidelines because to me that didn't jibe with the excellent service they provided.
The problem with making a blanket statement that 'all' places expect $60 is that all places are not equal. FS at one place (think Ulmerton) might run $100 to $120 while at another $200+ (US19 in PH). It can even vary with different girls at the same establishment.
In my personal experience there have been plenty of places where $40 was a very well received tip for a handshake.
I do very much agree that opting out of the TS is never a good idea. Cleanliness, or the perception by the provider there of, is more likely to lead to happiness at the end.
R Consultant
07-02-08, 15:30
I just read the same thing you read and I dont see where he mentioned that he pays standard prices at all. He only tips according to the service he recieves and how well it was. Heck for all we know if the service isnt any good he might tip less than all of us. Or if its good he might do more.
He just gave an example of the differences of different shops. Its kinda like CL and others each provider charges differently and I for one can tell you if one offers 400 an hour or the other charges 100-- Im calling the 100 an hour chick.
Happy Hunting..
The problem I have with your statement is that if the standard prices are 40/60/100 and someone starts paying 100/150/200 then that is what they start expecting from everyone. I had one place I used to go to and for a long time it was the 40/60/100 rates then the last time I was told that the prices now start at 100. 100 for a damn hj she better be using a gold glove. What I'm trying to say is if you have money to spare please think of those of us who don't have money coming out of our ass.
Member #4175
07-02-08, 21:38
I just read the same thing you read and I dont see where he mentioned that he pays standard prices at all. He only tips according to the service he recieves and how well it was. Heck for all we know if the service isnt any good he might tip less than all of us. Or if its good he might do more.
He just gave an example of the differences of different shops. Its kinda like CL and others each provider charges differently and I for one can tell you if one offers 400 an hour or the other charges 100-- Im calling the 100 an hour chick.
Happy Hunting..
Thanks RC,
You understood correctly.
I'm not saying that you should pay any more than the going fare. When I talk about Osaka I said that I paid a bit more than the $40/$60 that was the 'set rate'. I paid a bit more because the providers I frequented went way above and beyond the standard level of service for this area.
If I go out to a restaurant and some wait person bends over backwards to make sure I never have to want for anything during my meal you can bet I'll tip upwards of 20%.
That doesn't mean I won't leave 10% or less for poor service. Why should I tip some young hottie high dollars for dead fish service? Let's face it, even the local hotties are not all that great on a world wide scale. Performance counts, or at least it does until I get too old to pull elsewhere.
I go to AMPs for service, not because it's the best place to find hot Asians. That would be, in fact, Asia.
If hotties were the only factor I could go to Bangkok for a couple grand and bang a Thai Penthouse Pet at Poseidon Entertainment Complex.
Trust me, local talent doesn't remotely compare.
Bottom line, RC is 100% correct.
The problem I have with your statement is that if the standard prices are 40/60/100 and someone starts paying 100/150/200 then that is what they start expecting from everyone. I had one place I used to go to and for a long time it was the 40/60/100 rates then the last time I was told that the prices now start at 100. 100 for a damn hj she better be using a gold glove. What I'm trying to say is if you have money to spare please think of those of us who don't have money coming out of our ass.
I have found that tipping for great service at an establishment gets you a positive reputation that feeds on itself. When the performance doesn't live up to expectations, then the tipping follows the negative experience. But a good tipping reputation is a great ice breaker when new talent comes in. The mamasan lets the new ladies know you will pay to play. If that happens to go outside someone's price range, then sorry, but too bad. It's not to give someone else a bad time, it's just to ensure myself of a great time. And it works like a charm. Setting yourself apart from the crowd has never seemed like a bad thing to me. When you do it in other ways as well, like being polite and respectful, it seems to go a long way. I would rather have less frequent encounters and enjoy them more. Kind of the quality vs quantity debate.
I respect everyone's opinion on this topic. However, I must say that 60 for a handshake is, in most cases, too much; and 100 is ridiculous. Of course, there are always exceptional circumstances. For example, an extremely beautiful girl, or the handshake lasts for an unusually long time.
Just my thoughts,
Toeman
R Consultant
07-03-08, 19:44
All I did was read and interpreted what you wrote and I do agree with you its about the service and thats going to base whatever tip I decide to leave. That goes for anything I participate in.
Thanks for the pat on the back -- could you tell my X-wife I got something right. I know she wont believe it. hehehehe..
Happy Hunting..
Thanks RC,
You understood correctly.
I'm not saying that you should pay any more than the going fare. When I talk about Osaka I said that I paid a bit more than the $40/$60 that was the 'set rate'. I paid a bit more because the providers I frequented went way above and beyond the standard level of service for this area.
If I go out to a restaurant and some wait person bends over backwards to make sure I never have to want for anything during my meal you can bet I'll tip upwards of 20%.
That doesn't mean I won't leave 10% or less for poor service. Why should I tip some young hottie high dollars for dead fish service? Let's face it, even the local hotties are not all that great on a world wide scale. Performance counts, or at least it does until I get too old to pull elsewhere.
I go to AMPs for service, not because it's the best place to find hot Asians. That would be, in fact, Asia.
If hotties were the only factor I could go to Bangkok for a couple grand and bang a Thai Penthouse Pet at Poseidon Entertainment Complex.
Trust me, local talent doesn't remotely compare.
Bottom line, RC is 100% correct.
I have found that tipping for great service at an establishment gets you a positive reputation that feeds on itself.
EXACTLY.
Being polite and respectful goes a long way as well.
Never, ever, ever go in smelling of alcohol unless they know you well.
Seffner Monger
07-04-08, 07:32
Anybody ever tried J Spa near Gandy and Westshore?
Anybody ever tried J Spa near Gandy and Westshore?
Yep, it's my least favorite place in Tampa.
It doesn't get much business. The owner has a hard time just keeping anyone working there, and then it's usually some 60 year old washed up and fat grandma. They sometimes have no one at all working, althogh currently there are a couple.
It is owned by the same woman that owns Japanese Spa on Kennedy. All the girls want to move over there because they have more business.
Yep, it's my least favorite place in Tampa.
It doesn't get much business. The owner has a hard time just keeping anyone working there, and then it's usually some 60 year old washed up and fat grandma. They sometimes have no one at all working, althogh currently there are a couple.
It is owned by the same woman that owns Japanese Spa on Kennedy. All the girls want to move over there because they have more business.
No one has ever reported a good experience on J Spa on Gandy Blvd-save your money for somewhere else
...save your money for somewhere else
You might have better luck with your hand and an AARP centerfold!
Hard Working 19
07-20-08, 16:36
Any particular reason you have posted this on 24 different forums in 24 hours?
Stumbled upon this site http://www.********.net/ has some pretty good useful information
Big Bobby35
07-21-08, 21:47
Had the pleasure of one of Tampa's more visual AMPs. Was not in town long and had to get rid of a knot from the travel. Wasn't far from the airport and saw the light on. 11pm and was easy to get in, very nicely decorated (good financial backing! ).
Saw mama at door, paid. Was lead to room. Mama brought me to shower for indepth scrubbing (this always means they are waisting time). Convo went well with Mimi (? ), even though she is challenged. She comes up north for the casinos. Don't all asians? Mentioned China town boston and Providence, RI. She must have worked at one of our fine establishments (she looked about 50, but not a hag).
Led back to room to dry off (no sauna). She starts massage. Now it was actually a decent massage, and I'm figuring she's the warm up act. I did quickly see 3 spinners in the girls TV room. Mama ran me by them as I was trying to check them out and make notice of outfit for picking one out. See, I had made the worst monger mistake. Left the powercord to lap top in Boston.
Got to tease and she had me on all fours barking for the flip. On flip she says, "Yo wanna fuk mama? ". Since I was new to Tampa, I wanted to see if they got any of that old Tamp style and replied, "I wanna fuck mama's mouth". At this point she replied $100. Naah, I'll give ya $40. She said next time only HJ this time. Let me tell you her technique was quite refreshing. This mama has been around a few swinging dicks in her time. She was not rushing and finished with a new move that I haven't seen in a long time. She somehow got her two hands to almost mimic an asian snatch, while blowing on my balls.
All in all not bad. Funny thing is who ever came in after me was asking mama to replace the younger model he had while in the shower (good try on the switcherooo).
Damage 120. Value. The release was a nice session of cock-worship by an old asian expert.
I will also say that the st. Pete, tamp, clearwater areas are stacked with massage. You boys got it better than you know.
Joe Bagodonuts
07-22-08, 16:31
Just went to the Aloha and had my favorite girl Sunshine. She is the best! She gives the best BBFS anywhere. She tells me she does all her customers that way. Give her a try sometime. You will be glad you did!
Had the pleasure of one of Tampa's more visual AMPs. Was not in town long and had to get rid of a knot from the travel. Wasn't far from the airport and saw the light on. 11pm and was easy to get in, very nicely decorated (good financial backing! ).
Saw mama at door, paid. Was lead to room. Mama brought me to shower for indepth scrubbing (this always means they are waisting time). Convo went well with Mimi (? ), even though she is challenged. She comes up north for the casinos. Don't all asians? Mentioned China town boston and Providence, RI. She must have worked at one of our fine establishments (she looked about 50, but not a hag).
Led back to room to dry off (no sauna). She starts massage. Now it was actually a decent massage, and I'm figuring she's the warm up act. I did quickly see 3 spinners in the girls TV room. Mama ran me by them as I was trying to check them out and make notice of outfit for picking one out. See, I had made the worst monger mistake. Left the powercord to lap top in Boston.
Got to tease and she had me on all fours barking for the flip. On flip she says, "Yo wanna fuk mama? ". Since I was new to Tampa, I wanted to see if they got any of that old Tamp style and replied, "I wanna fuck mama's mouth". At this point she replied $100. Naah, I'll give ya $40. She said next time only HJ this time. Let me tell you her technique was quite refreshing. This mama has been around a few swinging dicks in her time. She was not rushing and finished with a new move that I haven't seen in a long time. She somehow got her two hands to almost mimic an asian snatch, while blowing on my balls.
All in all not bad. Funny thing is who ever came in after me was asking mama to replace the younger model he had while in the shower (good try on the switcherooo).
Damage 120. Value. The release was a nice session of cock-worship by an old asian expert.
I will also say that the st. Pete, tamp, clearwater areas are stacked with massage. You boys got it better than you know.
Which of the "more visual AMP's" are you talking about?
The names do not ring a bell.
Which of the "more visual AMP's" are you talking about?
The names do not ring a bell.
I believe Yoko refers to Spa Yokohama on Dale Mabry...
Cheesy Rider
07-22-08, 20:23
Had the pleasure of one of Tampa's more visual AMPs. Was not in town long and had to get rid of a knot from the travel. Wasn't far from the airport and saw the light on. 11pm and was easy to get in, very nicely decorated (good financial backing! ).
Saw mama at door, paid. Was lead to room. Mama brought me to shower for indepth scrubbing (this always means they are waisting time). Convo went well with Mimi (? ), even though she is challenged. She comes up north for the casinos. Don't all asians? Mentioned China town boston and Providence, RI. She must have worked at one of our fine establishments (she looked about 50, but not a hag).
Led back to room to dry off (no sauna). She starts massage. Now it was actually a decent massage, and I'm figuring she's the warm up act. I did quickly see 3 spinners in the girls TV room. Mama ran me by them as I was trying to check them out and make notice of outfit for picking one out. See, I had made the worst monger mistake. Left the powercord to lap top in Boston.
Got to tease and she had me on all fours barking for the flip. On flip she says, "Yo wanna fuk mama? ". Since I was new to Tampa, I wanted to see if they got any of that old Tamp style and replied, "I wanna fuck mama's mouth". At this point she replied $100. Naah, I'll give ya $40. She said next time only HJ this time. Let me tell you her technique was quite refreshing. This mama has been around a few swinging dicks in her time. She was not rushing and finished with a new move that I haven't seen in a long time. She somehow got her two hands to almost mimic an asian snatch, while blowing on my balls.
All in all not bad. Funny thing is who ever came in after me was asking mama to replace the younger model he had while in the shower (good try on the switcherooo).
Damage 120. Value. The release was a nice session of cock-worship by an old asian expert.
I will also say that the st. Pete, tamp, clearwater areas are stacked with massage. You boys got it better than you know.
You got a pretty good deal. At least you got an offer for some action. I've been there plenty of times with no luck.
Over the years in many AMPs, some of the best HJ's were given by the mamasans. They know what they're doing.
Clinton Bush
07-22-08, 22:40
I believe Yoko refers to Spa Yokohama on Dale Mabry...
Bobby is getting it on with Yoko Ono who is now working as a mamasan in a Tampa spa.....
Bobby goes in singing "Give piece a chance? " but Yoko sings back "You know, it don't come easy" .
Bobby's a little short on cash so Yoko sings "Can't Buy Me Love" to which Bobby asks for "A Little Help from his Friends".
Yoko agrees "We Can Work It Out". She was singing "I wanna hold your hand" (that's not Bobby's hand, Yoko).
At the climax, Yoko and Bobby were heard singing "Come Together" ; )
CB
Beatles fan and "Paperback Writer"
Went round 4 pm. nice clean upstairs joint. Mya was my gal. No pick girls.
Ts bad her nicely scrubb my meat between my fingers
Nice massagy. Soft skins with encourages to touch.
I flip she asksif I like more massag. Grab her hand and push it into my
Peter. She smiled and did some fun stuff while I squeezed her nip nap pattywhaps. Then I pushed those lady briefs aside took a deep great and startled her by ramming my thumb into her egg hole. Wham wham I thought she may have mild bruising. She did give me some finger in this ass party fun.
80 hour
25 tip
Stinky finger. Priceless
I believe Yoko refers to Spa Yokohama on Dale Mabry...
OK, makes sense now.
Yokohama doesn't really have a mamasan, but description of age and experience sounds like "Connie." She's a long time pro with lots of experience.
Big Bobby35
07-23-08, 16:07
OK, makes sense now.
Yokohama doesn't really have a mamasan, but description of age and experience sounds like "Connie. " She's a long time pro with lots of experience. Sounds like the one, and had no problem with the groping. Shorts were even somewhat accessible. From what I heard there, I would say definitely the regulars get the special treatment. But some of the younger girls are push push types.
Bobby is getting it on with Yoko Ono who is now working as a mamasan in a Tampa spa.
Bobby goes in singing "Give piece a chance? " but Yoko sings back "You know, it don't come easy".
Bobby's a little short on cash so Yoko sings "Can't Buy Me Love" to which Bobby asks for "A Little Help from his Friends".
Yoko agrees "We Can Work It Out". She was singing "I wanna hold your hand" (that's not Bobby's hand, Yoko).
At the climax, Yoko and Bobby were heard singing "Come Together"; )
CB Beatles fan and "Paperback Writer"Fantasic, and to that I would say "She had the GI Joe Kung-Foo Grip! , and I said Uhhhhh! "
Name that tune
Bigguy3385
07-26-08, 19:14
Does anyone know the were abouts of Susan the orginal owner of Osaka?
From what I heard there, I would say definitely the regulars get the special treatment. But some of the younger girls are push push types.
Connie is the only one there with specials on the menu.
Master Diver
07-29-08, 16:23
Visited today at 3pm. Had a visit with Tina, all as reported. She really likes and enjoys the handshake and is very good at it.
Parkinrear
07-29-08, 17:37
Wow, what a mountain of info! Glad I stuck with the google search until I found something. I have been in the area for a while now and have sampled many of the usual places. I got into the hobby after Osaka I am sad to say. Anyway, drove out of my way home today to see if Gold/Sunshine was open again and the light was on, a few cars parked in the back. I found this place to be decent (and sometimes amazing) the few times I went before uncle Leo stole all their hard earned money this past winter. Anyone been by yet? Same Mamasan?
Tampahunter
07-30-08, 20:21
Made a trip up to Ohio last week, tried out an AMP in Warren. Advertisements in Plain Dealer led me there, along with a coupon. Tried a place with a $10 coupon, advertised 5 new young girls. No doubt about that. Pleasant surprise was $50 for hour, $10 off of that. Table shower was fine from an older, maybe 45 mamasan type; "get you nice young girl now." Sue came in dressed in bikini top and short shorts. She was smokin hot. Nice light massage, on flip went right to business. Asked if I like to suck pussy, said yes, and she had me go to town. Never had one go off like this one before. Mouth wasn't like a glazed donut, whole face was. Again, smokin hot and tastes great. After that, awesome CBJ. $120 damage. Highly recommend, PM for name. Seems like they must all be that way since this was my first time in that area and just picked one with a coupon. Don't anyone tell me we're spoiled in Tampa anymore.
Wow, what a mountain of info! ... Anyway, drove out of my way home today to see if Gold/Sunshine was open again and the light was on, a few cars parked in the back. I found this place to be decent (and sometimes amazing) the few times I went before uncle Leo stole all their hard earned money this past winter. Anyone been by yet?
If we had we would have reported it. But since you're curious why not stop by there and contribute to the "mountain of info".
Tampa Monger
07-30-08, 20:55
Wow, what a mountain of info! Glad I stuck with the google search until I found something. I have been in the area for a while now and have sampled many of the usual places. I got into the hobby after Osaka I am sad to say. Anyway, drove out of my way home today to see if Gold/Sunshine was open again and the light was on, a few cars parked in the back. I found this place to be decent (and sometimes amazing) the few times I went before uncle Leo stole all their hard earned money this past winter. Anyone been by yet? Same Mamasan?
After the Osaka bust, people have been reluctant to post a whole lot of info. I miss Osaka so much I think about it every day and it angers me. I'm also pissed I didn't discover it long before. I think I only got to enjoy it for less than a year. Man, I miss Yumi and Tina.
drove out of my way home today to see if Gold/Sunshine was open again and the light was onIs this the Gold Spa that was open 24hrs a day? If yes, is it still a 24hr place?
Loafer Boat
07-31-08, 06:09
I'm extatic that I stumbled across this site. I had been on another forum.org for about 7 years and wondered where everyone went a couple of years ago. Now I see all of the esteemed board of directors here. Are these sites related? I remember Jackson from the other site. I figured that I missed something when I moved to Fla from out west.
I will catch up on info over the next couple of days.
Happy Hunting!
Never had one go off like this one before. Mouth wasn't like a glazed donut, whole face was. Again, smokin hot and tastes great. Don't you love when that happens? Not a common thing, which makes it even more special.
The area of Ohio that you mention is a bit infamous for its connections to old world families with names ending in vowels. I'm guessing that helps keep the prices down as maybe they don't worry to much about ancillary payments to the local donut munchers unions. Of course that could just be legend, like Providence, RI.
Parkinrear
07-31-08, 16:23
Ok, you guys have a good point about my question on Gold Spa. I have not tried it since the light turned back on. I don't know if it was open 24 hours before. I went instead last night to Aloha on Ulmerton because I know that place is worth it. One of these days I will give Gold a shot, but I was looking for a sure thing last night. But since I am giving information, lets go back.
Japanese Spa on Kennedy. I have been there many times, none in the last six months. Sometimes service is really bad. They love to leave you in that damn steam room forever and if you ask to skip the steamroom the get pissy. They even tried to stick me in there once WITH another guy. TS has never been particularly good. Massages can be really, really good. You are not going to get anything special there, it's a run of the mill AMP that relies on quick turnover and guys who don't know any better. The only reason I kept going back was the first girl I saw there. She was fantastic and I kept returning hoping for the same treatment.
The one on Kennedy in the strip mall on the north side of the road. The name escapes me. Not Bangkok, that is long since closed. And its not the one near the corner of Mabry and Kennedy. It has a Japanese name. Anyway, Everything is available there but they are heavy on the upselling and pushy about $. The girls are beautiful and they take good care of you but the prices are premium.
That Hawaiian joint behind BK on Ulmerton. They have a sauna, not a steam room. I love that because it gets me dry. Often, at other places, after the TS I get back to the room and I start to shiver because I am still a little wet and it's so freaking cold. I have never had anything less that wonderful service there, she even layed out a reasonable (considering the competition) price list for all services yesterday. Basically three levels of service. I am not sure if those are bare bones services as I am a bottom tier guy (though I strayed to middle tier once at a place who's name I still can't recall). Mamasan is friendly and struck up a conversation about the economy as she led me to my room. I guess she is feeling the pinch too. The rooms are huge. Sunshine is very talented.
Gold was great before. Nice rooms, great massages, pretty girls but a little pricy and somewhat pushy.
I hope I haven't gotten too detailed here. I don't want to ruin anything. On the other hand I hope some of you find this helpful. It's a fine line. How much to say without causing trouble for the spas.
Member #5237
07-31-08, 20:44
Hi everyone,
Longtime monger here but new to the forum. After reading several reports about Tina at Oxygen, I went over to check her out. As luck would have it, she was the one who greeted me at the door. TS and massage were adequate, nothing special. On the flip she provided a normal HJ, nothing special. She was not receptive to being touched beyond rubbing her legs. I had several beers before going there so it took a little extra time to finish the deed. Mission accomplished and left a 40 tip. Not sure why everyone claims she is so sensual in her profession. It was a completely forgetable expierence.
Japanese Spa on Kennedy. Ihave been there many times, none in the last six months. Sometimes service is really bad. They love to leave you in that damn steam room forever and if you ask to skip the steamroom the get pissy. They even tried to stick me in there once WITH another guy. TS has never been particularly good. Massages can be really, really good. You are not going to get anything special there, it's a run of the mill AMP that relies on quick turnover and guys who don't know any better. The only reason I kept going back was the first girl I saw there. She was fantastic and I kept returning hoping for the same treatment.
Japanese Spa has traditionally been rub & tug only.
But there is one jewel there now. Ask for "Cindy" for bbbj.
The one on Kennedy in the strip mall on the north side of the road. The name escapes me. Not Bangkok, that is long since closed. And its not the one near the corner of Mabry and Kennedy. It has a Japanese name. Anyway, Everything is available there but they are heavy on the upselling and pushy about $. The girls are beautiful and they take good care of you but the prices are premium.
Sounds like Yoshiko.
After drawing a couple of strikes at other places (see St Pete reports), I drove back across Gandy and up Westshore. Sure enough, Gold Spa was lit up for business although there were no cars in lot. I always had trouble getting an appointment in this place before, usually told to come back at another hour or day because they were busy.
They aren't yet taking credit cards, but were happy to take cash. Pricing is typical. I only saw the mamasan at the door, so took a chance on the talent.
My attendant was about average, not great given previous talent, and definitely high mileage. I have a theory about AMPs: you can judge how long a woman has worked with your eyes closed. Just listen for how raspy their voice is from long hours spent sucking down nicotine while playing cards or watching Korean videos in the back room. You can also typically determine what services will be on offer by the way that they dress.
Leeann had a deep, raspy voice, and was wearing a spandex leotard with a matching black blouse. Not exactly my first choice options, but I decided to stay in there and take one for the team. She was probably quite pretty when she was younger, but the smile was a bit forced and the outfit was not flattering to her.
She had large, strong hands though, and the massage was decent. They have only been open for about a week and you can tell there is some residual tension about the place from both staff members I spoke with. She asked where I'd been before and I mentioned different parts of town. She said that there are a lot places in Tampa and a lot of competition. I apologise for not using that as an excuse to suggest lowering their prices.
Eventually we shook hands and said our goodbyes, and although it was not exactly the experience I was looking for, you couldn't say I wasn't satisfied with the service. I'd say it's similar to Oxygen, nice rooms, very clean environment, but don't expect too much. It might evolve over time but they are just a bit antsy right now, understandably so.
Member #5237
08-03-08, 14:05
I have passed this place on Kennedy Blvd many times but have never heard anything about it. My preferred provider was unavailable Saturday night so I made my way over to Nagoya. I was greeted at the door by a weather beaten mamasan. Strike 1. I asked if I could pick the girl and mamasan said yes and called another woman to the front. The woman who appeared introduced herself as Judy. She was about 5 ft 3, shoulder length hair, mid 40s, and a very friendly personality. During the TS when I turned onto my back she put a wash cloth on my mid-section. I told her I didn't want this and she was fine with that. She then looked at my growing member and asked, " OK to touch? ". Of course I said yes. Back in the room she provided a decent massage. On the flip she almost immediately went for my pogo stick. The hand cream dispenser must have been mounted on the side of the table because she never left my side. She lifted up her shirt and bra and gave me a slow and sensual rub on my stick as opposed to pretending to be a jackhammer operator. I asked if she could take her shirt completely off. She unbuttoned all the buttons on the front and lifted the bra up a little more to give me a beautiful shot of her C cups and large perky nipples. Then, without even being asked, she dropped her shorts and panties to her ankles. I must have looked hungry because before I knew it, she was breast feeding me while continuing to work on Mr Happy. She let me touch her wherever I wanted and my hand soon found its way to her pie hole. After playing with the outside, I inserted my finger and played some more. After the volcano erupted, she continued her sensual rub on my stick for what seemed like eternity but was probably about 30-40 seconds. This is in contrast to other providers who immediately stop when the volcano stops. After cleaning me up, she asked if I wanted more massage and I said yes so she finished rubbing my chest, legs, etc. She helped me get dressed and I left a 50 tip which was very appreciated. Judy is about 5 ft 3 115 pounds, very attractive with a nice smile and great personality. I will defiantely be back in the future for more visits with her.
Whale Hunter
08-04-08, 19:42
I have passed this place on Kennedy Blvd many times but have never heard anything about it. My preferred provider was unavailable Saturday night so I made my way over to Nagoya. I was greeted at the door by a weather beaten mamasan. Strike 1. I asked if I could pick the girl and mamasan said yes and called another woman to the front. The woman who appeared introduced herself as Judy. She was about 5 ft 3, shoulder length hair, mid 40s, and a very friendly personality. During the TS when I turned onto my back she put a wash cloth on my mid-section. I told her I didn't want this and she was fine with that. She then looked at my growing member and asked, " OK to touch? ". Of course I said yes. Back in the room she provided a decent massage. On the flip she almost immediately went for my pogo stick. The hand cream dispenser must have been mounted on the side of the table because she never left my side. She lifted up her shirt and bra and gave me a slow and sensual rub on my stick as opposed to pretending to be a jackhammer operator. I asked if she could take her shirt completely off. She unbuttoned all the buttons on the front and lifted the bra up a little more to give me a beautiful shot of her C cups and large perky nipples. Then, without even being asked, she dropped her shorts and panties to her ankles. I must have looked hungry because before I knew it, she was breast feeding me while continuing to work on Mr Happy. She let me touch her wherever I wanted and my hand soon found its way to her pie hole. After playing with the outside, I inserted my finger and played some more. After the volcano erupted, she continued her sensual rub on my stick for what seemed like eternity but was probably about 30-40 seconds. This is in contrast to other providers who immediately stop when the volcano stops. After cleaning me up, she asked if I wanted more massage and I said yes so she finished rubbing my chest, legs, etc. She helped me get dressed and I left a 50 tip which was very appreciated. Judy is about 5 ft 3 115 pounds, very attractive with a nice smile and great personality. I will defiantely be back in the future for more visits with her.This has to be a case of YMMV.
Went there this afternoon. Your tale sounded intriguing and worth a shot.
Judy was the only working lady there and I thought I was in for a treat.
I have to admit that I am in pretty good shape, tall and with a crew cut, so there is a chance that I simply set off her cop radar.
I got no where with her. Same story with the wash cloth during the TS. She had me draped through the entire massage (which was good. On par with the girls at Oxygen).
Then she announced that our time is up and would I like some water. No matter how I asked or tried to assure her that I am not a cop... she refused and kept saying "big trouble if I touch there".
O well. Better luck to the rest you.
Hardwood123
08-05-08, 00:01
Quote:
Originally Posted by Parkinrear
Wow, what a mountain of info! ... Anyway, drove out of my way home today to see if Gold/Sunshine was open again and the light was on, a few cars parked in the back. I found this place to be decent (and sometimes amazing) the few times I went before uncle Leo stole all their hard earned money this past winter. Anyone been by yet?
If we had we would have reported it. But since you're curious why not stop by there and contribute to the "mountain of info".
You are so right Drew (BTW JJ was a gas!). Mountains are built by MOLEhills
Hardwood123
08-05-08, 01:18
Goes anyone find it kinda freaky with so many, so experienced newbees lately with so much info? or am I just a little paranoid?
Loafer Boat
08-05-08, 07:33
Goes anyone find it kinda freaky with so many, so experienced newbees lately with so much info? or am I just a little paranoid?As a "newbie", I'll speak to that point. I used to be quite active on worldsexguide.org a couple of years ago. Left for a couple of months. When I retuned, I found little or no activity on that board. I've been quite active on another board since then. I stumbled on this board about a week ago while searching a new provider I found, and saw some familier names. Including Jackson. I'm wondering if the board just got connected to another search engine. (That's about the limit of my computer technology)
Now, as far as newbies having info and sharing. This board is loaded with comments criticizing newbies for asking questions and not contributing. I suspect that your seeing mongers just trying to comply.
Happy Hunting
Hardwood123
08-05-08, 12:58
Now, as far as newbies having info and sharing. This board is loaded with comments criticizing newbies for asking questions and not contributing. I suspect that your seeing mongers just trying to comply.
Happy HuntingI;m not going yo labor that point. It's just that it seems so funny that several newbees at once seemed to appear and give a near identical multi review to gain credibility. Drew and HoChaser and I and a few others have been kickin' around these boards for years and have seen plenty of strange things. I'm not usually paranoid, but....
Drew and HoChaser and I and a few others have been kickin' around these boards for years and have seen plenty of strange things.
Seen and DONE! LOL ;^)
Whale Hunter
08-05-08, 22:21
I;m not going yo labor that point. It's just that it seems so funny that several newbees at once seemed to appear and give a near identical multi review to gain credibility. Drew and HoChaser and I and a few others have been kickin' around these boards for years and have seen plenty of strange things. I'm not usually paranoid, but....I'm trying to figure out if you guys are talking about me. Who said that? LOL
But seriously, I am the definition of a newbie. Just moved to the Tampa area a year ago from Scandinavia (hence the fitting name) and this scene it totally new to me. Having a massage after a hard days work is a normal thing to do where I come from, so imagine my surprise when I walked into my first AMP completely unaware of what was going to take place on the flip. Still makes me grin from ear to ear. Anyhow, didn't have "to gain credibility" on my mind. Take my reviews for the new comer I am.
Be safe out there.
Comp Man77
08-06-08, 09:59
Is there any AMPs in tampa that open 24 hrs or at least 5 or 6 am.
Thanks
Member #5237
08-06-08, 21:55
This has to be a case of YMMV.
Went there this afternoon. Your tale sounded intriguing and worth a shot.
Judy was the only working lady there and I thought I was in for a treat.
I have to admit that I am in pretty good shape, tall and with a crew cut, so there is a chance that I simply set off her cop radar.
I got no where with her. Same story with the wash cloth during the TS. She had me draped through the entire massage (which was good. On par with the girls at Oxygen).
Then she announced that our time is up and would I like some water. No matter how I asked or tried to assure her that I am not a cop... she refused and kept saying "big trouble if I touch there".
O well. Better luck to the rest you.When I visit a new provider for the first time, I usually try to break the ice during the massage. While laying on my stomach with the provider standing at the head of the table massaging my back, I will usually reach up with both hands and start rubbing her legs and ass. I will also rub her legs after the flip. This tends to put her at ease about me being LE. Also, during the table shower, I will "accidently" brush my hand across her breasts and make some positive comment about how nice her tits are. To the best of my knowledge, LE is not allowed to initiate actions which may be considered sexual.
Darkpassenger
08-08-08, 20:50
Yep, enough said, what with all the DP crack-downs and shit going on.
Goes anyone find it kinda freaky with so many, so experienced newbees lately with so much info? or am I just a little paranoid?
Cheesy Rider
08-10-08, 10:30
Is there any AMPs in tampa that open 24 hrs or at least 5 or 6 am.
Thanks
I've been to Gold Spa on West Shore at 3:00 am before.
Member #5237
08-10-08, 14:27
I've been to Gold Spa on West Shore at 3:00 am before.Gold Spa was open 24 hours before the bust. They were closed for several months but finally re-opened. Their hours may not be the same now.
Also, full service was available before, but YMMV now until they get to know you or after they have been open for a while.
Cableguy01
08-11-08, 11:48
I decided to make the trip across the bay to Oxygen after RTFF for a bit. I called ahead & asked if either Tina or Mya were working and the girl who answered said yes. When I got there I was told Mya was off that day and Tina was with another client. So I got Lucy which I wasn't too happy with after reading a previous review. TS was ok. Now I was not expecting much as far as the massage goes after the previous review but I was pleasantly suprised. I actually get regular therapeutic massages for back problems and Lucy's massage was on par with those. The downside is therapeutic massages are not the most relaxing or erotic massages. But she definitely got all the tension & knots out. On the flip she went straight to business and while it was nice it was too quick. She was very nice and not at all talkative which I like. I also liked the way she dried me off and dressed me even tying my shoelaces for me, heh. I would have preferred a much longer handshake and also a little disrobing on her part.
All in all it wasn't that bad, I'd give to 6.5 happy hands out of 10. Next time tho I will wait for either Tina or Mya if I am told they are busy.
I learned today that Magic Spa on W Kennedy is under new ownership effective Tuesday. I haven't had a chance to check it out but just passing along the info.
Member #5237
08-14-08, 20:01
I learned today that Magic Spa on W Kennedy is under new ownership effective Tuesday. I haven't had a chance to check it out but just passing along the info.Magic and Yoshiko Spa were owned by the same company. Do you know if the new owners of Magic also bought Yoshiko? Have been to Yoshiko twice. Both bad expierences. Bad enough that I got some of my money refunded after complaining enough. Magic used to be my favorite spot. Until I discovered Lily Spa, which became Sunshine Spa, which became Gold Spa. I was in Magic recently. Was not all that impressed with it. Now I would only go there if my favorite spot is unavailable.
Cableguy01
08-15-08, 08:45
Can anyone tell me either here or via PM if there are any amp where the attendant normally disrobes some? I went (as posted below) to Oxygen and more recently to Pinetree & in neither case was there any disrobing on the part of the attendant. I know they aren't going to do it during the TS but would like it at least during the fun part of the massage.
Thanks in advance,
Cableguy
Magic and Yoshiko Spa were owned by the same company. Do you know if the new owners of Magic also bought Yoshiko? Have been to Yoshiko twice. Both bad expierences. Bad enough that I got some of my money refunded after complaining enough. Magic used to be my favorite spot. Until I discovered Lily Spa, which became Sunshine Spa, which became Gold Spa. I was in Magic recently. Was not all that impressed with it. Now I would only go there if my favorite spot is unavailable.
Magic and Yoshiko were owned by the same person until 2006. In March 2006, the most recent owner of Magic purchased Magic from the owner of Magic and Yoshiko. The owner of Yoshiko also owned Osaka and, so far as I know, still does. Relations between the owner of Yoshiko and the most recent owner of Magic deteriorated shortly after the purchase. Magic started out as an FS spa under the most recent owner, but shortly after opening one of the workers was arrested and the service became more R&T unless one was a regular. Also, under the most recent owner of Magic, workers did not stay long and did not often return which I believe hurt return business due to lack of consistency. Something happened on Tuesday that caused the most recent owner to sell to someone else. On the spot. I do not know what exactly happened but it was not a legal problem. I believe it was more personal. In any event, as I write this, the most recent owner who sold out is in a car on her way to her permanent home in NY City. I have no information on the new owner and probably won't for some time inasmuch as I live an hour away from Tampa. I no longer have a source for information on the "new" Magic so I can't advise what is or isn't available there.
I was traveling recently and saw this piece by Garrison Keillor in another city's daily paper.
Thought some of you might also get a kick out of it:
...My bath. (Thank you for asking.) I went to a Japanese spa and sat in a steam bath and after 20 minutes felt some of my liberal smugness trickle down my legs. Extreme heat breaks down moral arrogance—look at equatorial peoples; do they lecture the rest of us about our duty to the environment? No, they don't—and I sat feeling more and more chastened, and then a stout Japanese woman poked her head in and led me into a tiled room and laid me out face-down on a padded table and sloshed me with hot water from a basin and "splorted" some soap on my back and started scrubbing. She wore rough gloves for this. She rinsed me with pans of hot water and scrubbed some more.
My nakedness did not interest her. I suppose that repeated exposure to the male form will do that, just as plucking chickens might make you a vegan.
It was luxurious, being bathed, all the "sploshing and skritching," but also humbling, a naked creature feeling scourged, the sheer ordinariness of it. Here you are, wet and naked, and you are not so different from any other wet naked person. And then came the tiny masseuse with the powerful thumbs, and the steam room again, and a shower, and out into the world I went, cleansed and twanged, somewhat chastened, my neurons trembling.Anyone else wondering if he got the "happy ending"?
Full length original here (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-oped0814keilloraug14,0,6314791.column) at the CT site.
Magic and Yoshiko were owned by the same person until 2006. In March 2006, the most recent owner of Magic purchased Magic from the owner of Magic and Yoshiko. The owner of Yoshiko also owned Osaka and, so far as I know, still does.....
It seems that most all the AMPs in Tampa are owned and/or controlled by a very few people.
Both J-Spa on Gandy and Japanese Spa on Kennedy are owned by the same woman. She is living as commonlaw with the owner of Spa Yokohama. He really controls and calls the shots at all three places.
As far as I know, Nagoya and Oxygen are independently owned and operated.
But I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they too are owned by the small circle.
It seems that most all the AMPs in Tampa are owned and/or controlled by a very few people.
Both J-Spa on Gandy and Japanese Spa on Kennedy are owned by the same woman. She is living as commonlaw with the owner of Spa Yokohama. He really controls and calls the shots at all three places.
As far as I know, Nagoya and Oxygen are independently owned and operated.
But I wouldn't be surprised to learn that they too are owned by the small circle.
It isn't uncommon for one person to own more than one of the spas. The person who just sold Magic had an intention of owning a spa in the Biloxi, MS area until saner minds convinced her the damage from katrina would take many years to bring the area back to a bustling downtown economy. She also had intentions of buying another spa in either Tampa or Orlando but the economics and constant watchful eye of LE made that idea less and less attractive as the months went by. Whether or not some unknown man or group is pulling the strings on most spas, I do know that women who own spas on their own buy them, get as much income out of them as they want, and then sell them at a profit to another person. Sometimes they use the profit to buy a legit business and other times they go looking for another spa to buy somewhere else. And, sometimes they blow the money on gambling, drinking, or shopping binges.
It seems that most all the AMPs in Tampa are owned and/or controlled by a very few people.
If I am not mistaken, the Osaka owner also owned a convenience store and a clothing store.
Unlike other businesses, the challenge with an AMP is where to get the "product". That is where the owner must rely on the "network" to maintain a flow of fresh faces.
Made a trip up to Ohio last week, tried out an AMP in Warren. Advertisements in Plain Dealer led me there, along with a coupon. Tried a place with a $10 coupon, advertised 5 new young girls. No doubt about that. Pleasant surprise was $50 for hour, $10 off of that. Table shower was fine from an older, maybe 45 mamasan type; "get you nice young girl now." Sue came in dressed in bikini top and short shorts. She was smokin hot. Nice light massage, on flip went right to business. Asked if I like to suck pussy, said yes, and she had me go to town. Never had one go off like this one before. Mouth wasn't like a glazed donut, whole face was. Again, smokin hot and tastes great. After that, awesome CBJ. $120 damage. Highly recommend, PM for name. Seems like they must all be that way since this was my first time in that area and just picked one with a coupon. Don't anyone tell me we're spoiled in Tampa anymore.
Great Post.
Warren Ohio. got to love that place.
I had been to several training seminars for Lincoln Electric in Cleveland Ohio.
Stayed at the Eastlake Radisson for lodging.
Even in the December weather still managed to make the 1 hour drive to Warren. Got nicknamed FL guy there.
Mamasan explained that LE was no problem as Warren is so devastated economically that LEO left the AMPS alone.
Economically challenged town, but full of my favorite hobby shops.
I sure do miss the talent and the interest by the girls. Business was slow back then and a 1 hour session usually ended in 1 1/2 hours.
Mamasan invited me into the kitchen the third visit in as many days and we started drinking Korean wine. That wine is potent in more ways than one.
Great time by everyone. Enjoy and be safe WAV.
Tampahunter
08-19-08, 15:29
Used to live around the corner from that Radisson. Lot's of friends who work for Lincoln. You're right though, Warren is so depressed it makesw sense. Just wish the economic hard times would get them to loosen up her in Tampa.
Anyone been to Japanese Spa lately?
Is "Cindy" back from vacation yet?
I miss her bbbj but no one else there is worth the time, money or effort.
Member #5237
08-22-08, 02:05
Anyone been to Japanese Spa lately?
Is "Cindy" back from vacation yet?
I miss her bbbj but no one else there is worth the time, money or effort.BBBJ at Japanese Spa? As much as I have tried, never got anything more then a handshake there. What's your secret?
BBBJ at Japanese Spa? As much as I have tried, never got anything more then a handshake there. What's your secret?
Agreed, Jap Spa has been traditionally rub & tug only.
Cindy is an exception for the past year or so.
She's been on vacation for the past month or so but I look forward to her return.
Member #5237
08-24-08, 10:07
I previously posted a comment about this place which was very favorable. Made a return visit yesterday and was met at the door by Judy, who I met on my last visit there. Paid 60 for half hour and into the shower I went. Received very nice TS with special attention given to my pogo stick. Once back in the room Judy started on the massage then said in a soft voice, " ok, turn over baby ". She reached for the hand cream and then lifted up her top and dropped her shorts. As she was stroking me, I was fingering her with one hand and at the same time guiding her breasts into my mouth with the other hand. After I shot my load she continued stroking me slowly until I was completely limp. She made sure I was happy. After the hot towel, she continued with a massage and then dressed me. Left a 40 tip. Will be back again when I don't have the coin for full service at my favoriye place. As an added bonus, Spa Nagoya is less then 5 minutes from my job.
Not My Job
08-26-08, 22:07
I was traveling recently and saw this piece by Garrison Keillor in another city's daily paper.
Thought some of you might also get a kick out of it:
Anyone else wondering if he got the "happy ending"?
Full length original here (http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columnists/chi-oped0814keilloraug14,0,6314791.column) at the CT site.Love this guy! Never posted here before...but I'm an old Monger, long time lurker (and old Garrison fan). I'm pretty sure he got what(ever) he wanted.
NMJ
Saw this in a recent online article:
The allegations, in part, focus on CompuCredit's Aspire Visa, a subprime credit card for risky borrowers. The FTC claims that CompuCredit didn't properly disclose that it monitored spending and cut credit lines if consumers used their cards at certain places. Among them: tire and retreading shops, massage parlors, bars, billiard halls and marriage counseling offices.
"The company touted that cardholders could use their credit cards anywhere," says J. Reilly Dolan, assistant director for financial practices at the FTC. "What they didn't say was that you could be punished for specific kinds of purchases."
Full article is here:
Your Lifestyle May Hurt Credit Score (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Banking/YourCreditRating/YourLifestyleMayHurtCreditScore.aspx)
Anyway, I've used certain purchases in the past to bolster my frequent flyer miles, in more ways than one, but this is something you should take into account before you pull out the plastic at your favorite spa.
DaveMongersFo
08-28-08, 07:47
Just in town and decided to check out a local R&T. Overall no complaints. Had a masseuse named Yung, who said she was a dancer from Atlanta and had just moved here. $80 for the house and a $60 tip. It was a manual process, with potential for more, but I didn't pursue. Not the best, but by no means the worst. Right about average.
Legalize it
08-30-08, 14:25
I saw Angel again recently. Both times very good. I got a great massage and H.E. for 150 for a full hour. She's not bad looking, has a decent body, and is nice to talk to. She works in her apt. in south Tampa. It looked clean and safe. There wasn't much tantra in our session, but that's ok. She has ads in Creative Loafing and a web site. I would recommend her to anyone if you like chocolate gals.
http://tantra-touch.com
I felt like I really need a decent massage so I took a visit to Oxygen.
Had Lucy and was pleasantly surprised. She walked on my back and did everything I've had for legit massages before. The only thing she didn't do was crack my back on purpose.
She's not the most pleasant on the eyes but not the worst. She went straight to town on the flip without saying a word.
Her voice was nice and encouraging and she allowed grouping. I might visit again if I feel I need a good back rub. I would want to see Tina though just to see how it is.
Whale Hunter
08-31-08, 15:52
I felt like I really need a decent massage so I took a visit to Oxygen.
Had Lucy and was pleasantly surprised. She walked on my back and did everything I've had for legit massages before. The only thing she didn't do was crack my back on purpose.
She's not the most pleasant on the eyes but not the worst. She went straight to town on the flip without saying a word.
Her voice was nice and encouraging and she allowed grouping. I might visit again if I feel I need a good back rub. I would want to see Tina though just to see how it is.If you get to see Tina, you will see the difference. The two times I have been with Lucy simply turned me off. Maybe she was having a bad day. She just seemed angry and I have seen her have a very unprofessional outburst and yelling match with another of the women there.
On a different note, I took a visiting friend from Boston and let him have Tina.
I got Nana. She must be in her 50s. She has been there for a while, but this was my first try with her. She never used the lufa on the TS. Was all hands. I have to admit that it was fun, but the back scrub to those areas that you can't reach is part of the fun too. The massage was ok. Best I can describe it as unorganized. She kept changing sides around the table. HS was surprisingly good. Overall a good experience.
My friend from Boston? He is ready to move to Tampa! lol. Blown away.
Horn Dog Too
09-04-08, 00:08
Traveling Mongers Beware of this Place in Hudson on HWy 19.
What a fucking Rip OFF! I am so pissed off I can hardly see straight. After a pleasant round of golf and a dinner and beer at Hooters, I'm driving north on Hy 19 and spot a very pleasant sign. Pleasure Spa and Sun Club. Now I am in desparate need of a FIO (female induced orgasm). I stop in and the sign says "Do not enter if nudity and the lifestyle offends you" I think "Alllll Right! I step in and talk to a very pleasant older gentleman who gives me the tour and says you'll be bathed and rubbed by a woman. You'll be nude she'll be nude and she works for tips. OOOOOKKKKK. I know the code. So I pay the. 4 house fee for 1/2 hour, pick a beautiful red head named Angie and she asks me to set the tip on a shelf. 50. 100 dollars it's up to me. OK so I lay 70 dollars, strip and lay on my back. She comes in and starts a lame little sponge bath and a lame ass lotion rub on my chest and legs. No teasing, no touching the boys. I'm asking about 1/2 way through this, aren't you getting nude too? The gentleman said we would both be nude. So off comes her little sash on the bottom and it took further coaxing to get the top off. She does have a fine little body. But she left the g string on. I was sortof pissed. Then she says OK, fronts done, flip over. I said "How about the rest? No HJ? NO BJ? She says no, we don't do that here. You're kidding I say. No she says, so why the range of tips? If I give you more can I talk you into it? Nope. Turn over. So I do and she gets lame on my back and legs. And says you're done, get dressed.
So I'm too pissed to say anything and I just leave. Never again. I did pass a place called dusk to dawn. Does anyone know if this is the same type of rippoff?
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