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Streetlover1
03-06-17, 11:33
Recently checked out this place for a massage, thin older woman was the provider. I asked her her name 3 times and I still couldn't get it but she was one of two there at the time. Really solid massage with a mechanical hand finish. She did not like the. 35 tip I gave her which I thought was quite generous. Would not repeat.
I have coming over to Orlando to check out the AMP Scene and I have visited BB (Isabella), CB (Remy) & Asian Acupuncture Massage (Yeu). All three provided light massages. But, I enjoyed the ladies at BB & CB the best, although AAM was the cheapest. 50 & $. 50. If you mention you saw them on BP the house fee is. 50. The only real differences I found between BB & CB is that BB seems newer and a nicer facility.
Saw snow, that works with Genesis on the east side last week. Nice incall same place as Genesis. I was supposed to see genesis but last minute change of plans on her part. Snow is Latin, Colombian, a shorty but boy is she stacked for those that love breast, and she has a big ass to go with those breast! It was my first time seeing her went for the 30 minute dream, wasn't bad, B2B, but maybe it'll get better with subsequent visits. Will repeat if Genesis is not available. Looking for a nuru experience any suggestions besides luxsa?
I took advantage of Luxsa opening past their usual 11 pm a couple of the nights this past week. I usually settle for BB or CB for my late nights, but was finally able to make my way out there. I saw Daisy the first time and Sabrina Skyy the second time. In reading the forum, it seems that I lucked with these two as they both were very nice and pleasant to talk to, considering how late it was. Definitely pricey compared to BB & CB, but worth it to me once in a while for the variety. I left happy both times. The second time happier than the first. PM for details.
Saw snow, that works with Genesis on the east side last week. Nice incall same place as Genesis. I was supposed to see genesis but last minute change of plans on her part. Snow is Latin, Colombian, a shorty but boy is she stacked for those that love breast, and she has a big ass to go with those breast! It was my first time seeing her went for the 30 minute dream, wasn't bad, B2B, but maybe it'll get better with subsequent visits. Will repeat if Genesis is not available. Looking for a nuru experience any suggestions besides luxsa?Is there a link to find or contact them?
Laymedown1
03-07-17, 08:33
It is great we hear a lot about CB, BB and Luxsa. But I know there are more and better reports out there on American and Latinas. It would be great to for once hear more about them for a change on the forum.
I miss the days of Lisa and Patricia at Invigor8 (fka Blue Moon), vuluptuous YuYu and CeCe.
Can someone share where they are or some added new adventures? We want the Ed Sheeran Shape of good girls that are not augmented to appeal.
Thanks.
Is there a link to find or contact them?They are on BP "Colombian queens".
Went back today, made an appointment with Michelle. She got a new haircut. Hug and kiss, paid 80 for the hour. Her massage skills are amazing, just like last time. My back is jacked up from working out and she was able to take care of me. She made me feel like a king.
On the flip she takes her clothes off and asks what I want. For her age, her body is amazing. I tell her "I want you" is that what you want? "Of course baby, I missed you". No talk of roses.
Like last time, went thru some alphabets, she enjoyed it a few times. Soaking wet to the point where it was making too much noise and it made her giggle. After all said and done, she cleans me up and hug and kiss. At this point I don't want to insult her by asking how much. She never mentioned it, so I don't really know if this is just between she and I because she likes me or whatever. Money is not an issue with me when the experience is amazing- which it was! I slipped her a Bennie and a half because I'm a nice guy. Again she was trying to reject it but I insisted and told her it's my gift.
Hopefully I didn't insult her. I'll find out next week.I too have been going to Michelle for a little while now. I had the same experience. She is very nice and fun, especially if you see her often and she gets to know you a little bit. I usually don't get the table shower, so it's $70 instead of $80 for the hour.
She does give an amazing massage and the flip is even better! Yesterdays dream involved a wonderful CBJ followed by cg, rcg, doggie, and finished in mish. The total damage was $. 7.
As I was leaving, a new girl was taking someone into the room. She was late smoking hot! I'm going to return soon and try to set something up with her. Don't waste your time with the other middle aged lady in there. I'd leave if she was the only one available.
I recently saw her and it was terrible. She pretty much wiped oil all over me, had me flip, and she was ready to be done. She started with a HJ then put a cover on. She climbed on and there was absolutely nothing. She literally rode without any emotion at all. That was the most mechanical dream I've ever had.
DominicanPete
03-07-17, 12:06
Returned to Orlando for my "One Night Only" tour. I had a few head doctors in mind that I wanted to visit and also thought about the possibility of trying out BB and CB.
On Saturday afternoon once my schedule became more clear I contacted a number of providers that post here. The ones that did respond had a scheduling conflict or couldn't provide outcall or there was no response at all. This led me to BB on Saturday night. Opted for the hour and I drew "Peachy". Attractive girl but not the hottest one there on Saturday night. The massage was basically non existent but the extras were superb. She was not rushed and aimed to please. Standard damage for an hour.
On Saturday night while I was out my intention was to find someone that would be willing to do an overnight. It ended up being too much hassle with our USAG providers and one thing led to another and I found myself with some woman who I met at the Lodge on Orange Ave who wanted to be banged in front of her husband. Ended up back at her place around 2 am and then an Uber back downtown to an after party around 4:30 am. What a night!
Next morning I find myself looking for fun as I wake up around 10 am. I had reached out to a provider that was hosting near where I was staying in Maitland to try and arrange an outcall. No response. I reached out to two more providers (one who didn't respond and one who did) but could not make it work. I ended up back at BB. I ended up drawing Analia (sp? Good looking woman but she is there to strictly turn and burn. I wouldn't reccomend her unless you want to be in and out.
The service and experience at BB is comparable to 11 Allen St in NYC (whichI have reviewed in the Manhattan section of the guide) and there is nothing close to the experience anywhere else in Orlando except at their sister establishment. The only downside is the place is located next to a popular dim sum restaurant that had lines out the door both on Saturday night and Sunday morning. Having to walk by all those customers was a little unnerving.
Happy hunting fellas.
AmpExplorer
03-07-17, 14:06
I too have been going to Michelle for a little while now. I had the same experience. She is very nice and fun, especially if you see her often and she gets to know you a little bit. I usually don't get the table shower, so it's $70 instead of $80 for the hour.
She does give an amazing massage and the flip is even better! Yesterdays dream involved a wonderful CBJ followed by cg, rcg, doggie, and finished in mish. The total damage was $. 7.
As I was leaving, a new girl was taking someone into the room. She was late smoking hot! I'm going to return soon and try to set something up with her. Don't waste your time with the other middle aged lady in there. I'd leave if she was the only one available.
I recently saw her and it was terrible. She pretty much wiped oil all over me, had me flip, and she was ready to be done. She started with a HJ then put a cover on. She climbed on and there was absolutely nothing. She literally rode without any emotion at all. That was the most mechanical dream I've ever had.Visiting town later this week. Sounds like the best of both worlds for a session.
Googled Balance I see "therapeutic place. With a guy working there too?
I must not be searching properly.
I enjoy RTF. I m trying to find a place like this. I will be visiting BB / CB for my trip to Disney, so to speak.
Horsetrader
03-07-17, 14:57
I've only ever gotten digits from ONE Korean AMP girl, and I've seen her literally DOZENS of times over the last four years, so that's not a common situation for me. However, I've always been reluctant to ask most K-girls for digits after just one or two visits because I feel like they have more allegiance to the AMP than comfort with ME to give me their phone number. Am I WAY off base on that?
Be careful. You could end up becoming too involved when you take it outside of the AMP. Ask me how I know (don't.).I've had a few times where phone numbers were exchanged with Korean and Chinese AMP girls. I only followed through with one Korean girl, she was 40 years old and had lived in USA under the legal radar since before she was 18. I only saw her one time at her AMP. She stopped the AMP scene, went into food service, and we spent a lot of time together over the next 3 months. She was always polite and considerate. Eventually, she want back for the big money at the AMP. I have no regrets over my experience with her.
Visiting town later this week. Sounds like the best of both worlds for a session.
Googled Balance I see "therapeutic place. With a guy working there too?
I must not be searching properly.
I enjoy RTF. I m trying to find a place like this. I will be visiting BB / CB for my trip to Disney, so to speak.Sorry, I thought the previous entry had the link. As with all the AMP's, the pictures are not them. I've never seen a man in there and I'm in here often. Ask for Michelle and you can't go wrong. She's very attractive and love to please.
MT314.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/new-new-new-special-offer-50-hh-407-847-8800-kissimmee-grand-opening/16578475
Sillyolman
03-07-17, 18:24
They are on BP "Colombian queens".I searched BP under women men and under massage. I found nothing close to "Colombian queens". Please forgive me if I missed it but, could you post a link?
ScottFlMahalo
03-07-17, 19:31
Very safe clean location near UCF. Tina met me at the door and she is very attractive with smooth firm body, natural B's, flat thin stomach, great ass. She was extremely pleasant with a nice attitude so I went for the premium session for $. 60. Tina gave a very nice massage with light to medium pressure. She did not rush and truly wanted to please me and be pleased! We clicked and I had an absolutely wonderful time and so did she. I left extremely happy! I will definately see her again. SM's feel free to PM for details.
Made my way to BB this evening. As you can guess by my non existent post count I'm new to this gig. Was impressed with how the girls here have a way of making you feel very comfortable.
Having read up on TFF I planned and tipped accordingly. Was table showered off, and we took care business first. Then followed up with a surprisingly decent massage.
Thanks forum.
Outdoorsman
03-08-17, 06:43
Stopped in late yesterday afternoon.
Went for an hour and got Lilly. Short, decent body wearing a short dress.
Good table shower. Hard massage although I'm more of a medium guy but good effort.
On the flip options offered settled on full. Then she disappeared for a couple of minutes came back and only miss was offered.
Lackluster performance followed by more massage.
House fee plus 100 with a talking to to bring more money next time.
Outdoorsman
03-08-17, 07:00
Was shopping in the produce section at Publix Friday. An Asian women dressed very professionally in her late 40's,probably, was not so much checking me out but I did notice her looking at me a couple of times. I'm a white color professional so I'm racking my mind where I've seen her as she looked familiar.
As I was driving home it hit me that she had giving me a couple of massages in the past.
Wish I had realized it while I was still in the store.
It's the first time I've run into a provider in public, hope to run into her again.
Gentleman 100
03-08-17, 07:59
Returned to Orlando for my "One Night Only" tour. I had a few head doctors in mind that I wanted to visit and also thought about the possibility of trying out BB and CB.
On Saturday afternoon once my schedule became more clear I contacted a number of providers that post here. The ones that did respond had a scheduling conflict or couldn't provide outcall or there was no response at all. This led me to BB on Saturday night. Opted for the hour and I drew "Peachy". Attractive girl but not the hottest one there on Saturday night. The massage was basically non existent but the extras were superb. She was not rushed and aimed to please. Standard damage for an hour.
On Saturday night while I was out my intention was to find someone that would be willing to do an overnight. It ended up being too much hassle with our USAG providers and one thing led to another and I found myself with some woman who I met at the Lodge on Orange Ave who wanted to be banged in front of her husband. Ended up back at her place around 2 am and then an Uber back downtown to an after party around 4:30 am. What a night!
Next morning I find myself looking for fun as I wake up around 10 am. I had reached out to a provider that was hosting near where I was staying in Maitland to try and arrange an outcall. No response. I reached out to two more providers (one who didn't respond and one who did) but could not make it work. I ended up back at BB. I ended up drawing Analia (sp? Good looking woman but she is there to strictly turn and burn. I wouldn't reccomend her unless you want to be in and out.
The service and experience at BB is comparable to 11 Allen St in NYC (whichI have reviewed in the Manhattan section of the guide) and there is nothing close to the experience anywhere else in Orlando except at their sister establishment. The only downside is the place is located next to a popular dim sum restaurant that had lines out the door both on Saturday night and Sunday morning. Having to walk by all those customers was a little unnerving.
Happy hunting fellas.No pun intended, but BB has good parking in the rear and you can enter in the rear. I found the restaurant is busier on weekends. If there are people coming and going from the restaurant, I will sometimes go inside the restaurant and get a carry out menu, then walk in to BB.
Be safe.
Gentleman 100
03-08-17, 08:02
I searched BP under women men and under massage. I found nothing close to "Colombian queens". Please forgive me if I missed it but, could you post a link?Try this link: http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/hot-colombian-hands/18324618.
Miketastic69
03-08-17, 08:35
Was shopping in the produce section at Publix Friday. An Asian women dressed very professionally in her late 40's,probably, was not so much checking me out but I did notice her looking at me a couple of times. I'm a white color professional so I'm racking my mind where I've seen her as she looked familiar.
As I was driving home it hit me that she had giving me a couple of massages in the past.
Wish I had realized it while I was still in the store.
It's the first time I've run into a provider in public, hope to run into her again.Ha, this has happened to me a few times. Like you, on one occasion it took me a while to figure out the context of where I knew the girl. But I will say to me it was kind of an amazing feeling to see someone that I saw naked a few times dressed up and looking professional like they are going on a job interview.
Buffalo Tongue
03-08-17, 15:58
Was shopping in the produce section at Publix Friday. An Asian women dressed very professionally in her late 40's,probably, was not so much checking me out but I did notice her looking at me a couple of times. I'm a white color professional so I'm racking my mind where I've seen her as she looked familiar.
As I was driving home it hit me that she had giving me a couple of massages in the past.
Wish I had realized it while I was still in the store.
It's the first time I've run into a provider in public, hope to run into her again.Which Publix.
Outdoorsman
03-08-17, 19:09
Ha, this has happened to me a few times. Like you, on one occasion it took me a while to figure out the context of where I knew the girl. But I will say to me it was kind of an amazing feeling to see someone that I saw naked a few times dressed up and looking professional like they are going on a job interview.I liked it just wish I had made the connection while still in the store. It was the Publix by Unniversal.
Gentleman 100
03-09-17, 08:05
Stopped in late yesterday afternoon.
Went for an hour and got Lilly. Short, decent body wearing a short dress.
Good table shower. Hard massage although I'm more of a medium guy but good effort.
On the flip options offered settled on full. Then she disappeared for a couple of minutes came back and only miss was offered.
Lackluster performance followed by more massage.
House fee plus 100 with a talking to to bring more money next time.I wish more places were like my favorite 2 AMPs (we know their names).
I hate it when you go to what should be a good AMP, and the bait and switch happens, or you get a good TS, but then the massage is not to your liking / doesn't take direction well. The girl in your experience was definitely not thinking about making you want to return. I especially hate being lectured to bring more money next time. Guess what, with a sub-par performance, there will be no next time.
I am sticking to my well-known, well-reviewed AMPs. I will be welcomed by a beautiful (almost model-beauty) young Asian lady, taken by the hand to the room, given an excellent TS, provided with a great massage to my liking, and a positive attitude with my upgrade services. I hope we get more of the high quality places and those sub-par places start improving their service, providers, atmosphere, etc.
Be safe.
Try this link: http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/hot-colombian-hands/18324618.Would you say those pics are similar to what you see there?
MotoMadman
03-09-17, 09:02
Would you say those pics are similar to what you see there?Yes, that nice ass belongs to Genesis.
Stopped in late yesterday afternoon.
Went for an hour and got Lilly. Short, decent body wearing a short dress.
Good table shower. Hard massage although I'm more of a medium guy but good effort.
On the flip options offered settled on full. Then she disappeared for a couple of minutes came back and only miss was offered.
Lackluster performance followed by more massage.
House fee plus 100 with a talking to to bring more money next time.
I'm with Getlemen100.
There would be no next time.
A while back SS was a good place and had good talent but like every Chinese AMP they are looking at taking your money today and do not think beyond their nose.
I would not bring any more doe nor I would return but again it is up to the monger to get suckered in again.
You need to think with the upper head.
The reason why the other two stellar AMP's have good reviews; is due to the steady good service with good therapists.
Just my 2 cents on the subject.
Have fun.
Joetorious
03-09-17, 16:18
Would you say those pics are similar to what you see there?For Genesis, yes. I have not seen the other yet.
CrazyHorse666
03-09-17, 22:17
Stopped in late yesterday afternoon.
Went for an hour and got Lilly. Short, decent body wearing a short dress.
Good table shower. Hard massage although I'm more of a medium guy but good effort.
On the flip options offered settled on full. Then she disappeared for a couple of minutes came back and only miss was offered.
Lackluster performance followed by more massage.
House fee plus 100 with a talking to to bring more money next time.
I'm with Getlemen100.
There would be no next time.
A while back SS was a good place and had good talent but like every Chinese AMP they are looking at taking your money today and do not think beyond their nose.
I would not bring any more doe nor I would return but again it is up to the monger to get suckered in again.
You need to think with the upper head.
The reason why the other two stellar AMP's have good reviews; is due to the steady good service with good therapists.
Just my 2 cents on the subject.
Have fun.Serenity is a no go for crazyhorse too. He had the most bizarre and lame experience. Read my review think it was a few months ago. Avoid serenity.
I was short on time, went to BoraBora. The young therapist cute, charming, delightful to be with. No other place with this much safety, consistent quality, although you do pay extra for this. Always great experience.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/bora-bora-hot-asian-service-new-young-hotties-3-8-17/16941329
Gentleman 100
03-10-17, 08:19
I read in the Tampa forum, that Lucky Spa has a stand-up TS available. The girl gets naked and thoroughly washes you (with a little body-to-body action). I would love to see that at our better establishments. They already have a TS room, and the shower nozzle is usually on a handle with a hose on it. Why not give the client a choice? I would love to experience that.
Be safe.
For Genesis, yes. I have not seen the other yet.The other girl, who goes by snow, is a bit thicker than genesis. Has real nice breasts, and a thick, tight ass. Younger and all natural. Genesis is is manmade, top and bottom.
BraddyWestSide
03-10-17, 10:56
Any one have any experience with this? I've gotten the platinum package and wasn't disappointed. Would be interested if there was an even higher level of service.
PeaceLover1305
03-10-17, 11:17
I was there yesterday and pulled in Tina. Since I was late in arriving. Settled for a minimum and that was marvellous. Asked about valentine's package. She said it comes with some spices like strawberries, whipped cream etc.
Any one have any experience with this? I've gotten the platinum package and wasn't disappointed. Would be interested if there was an even higher level of service.
Fisherman0317
03-10-17, 14:21
I was there yesterday and pulled in Tina. Since I was late in arriving. Settled for a minimum and that was marvellous. Asked about valentine's package. She said it comes with some spices like strawberries, whipped cream etc.Anybody seen other ladies there besides Tina?
I was stressed out a couple of weeks ago and went looking for a massage on the north end of town.
I was looking for something different than the standby AMP experience and had read a dew reviews on this girl.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/massage-therapist/18658417
Like in the reviews she is way to skinny for my taste. Setting the appointment was easy enough at decent extended stay in Lake Mary.
Started the dream and she had little to no strength to give even a halfway decent massage and seemed to be going through the motions.
In my dream she asked for extras to even take her top off and she could not even get me to finish before waking.
I would definitely not repeat. Damage was $. 6.
After what seemed like an eternity I finally took the plunge and went to CB. I was having a difficult time deciding between BB and CB after all the reviews I drove by both and settled on CB because no one was there. A mid age women mid 30's guess came to great me and asked if I had been before of course I said the standard answer. There is not really much I can add that others have not already said it is expensive but you get what you pay for (most of the time). Total damage was $$. 4. Yes expensive but I did wake up happy and refreshed.
Serenity is a no go for crazyhorse too. He had the most bizarre and lame experience. Read my review think it was a few months ago. Avoid serenity.I used to go there a lot. Never again unless I hear things have changed.
Checked out asahi again today. Good looking provider with decent massage. Provider treats you right if you have been a few times. Definately recommend.
Had a session with this lady and had an unusually unpleasant / robotic experience. Normally this location is top notch service, but she must have been having a off day or something. Massage was more scratching than rubbing and so was everything else by the way. I normally don't remember names, but this was notable.
I guess I have been spoiled by previous providers.
Maybe next time.
Red.
ImafYouGood
03-10-17, 22:38
So, I have been going to this place on the regular. I always ask for Lucy sometimes call and make sure she is there before going. She gives a really good medium to hard massage, she has learned my body and I always, always leave feeling great. Well with that being said the last 3 times I've been there she isn't there and when I ask about her I'm told she is on vacation try another girl and I don't leave happy. I just called
there and was told she on vacation, I ask when will she return and she says she on vacation and to come try another girl very good too, I ask when will Lucy be back and they hung up.
SO I'm very sad now. Does any one know of this Lucy and if so do you know if she works at different location now?
Stay Safe.
Ima.
Gentleman 100
03-10-17, 23:33
I had the great opportunity to stop by BB and see Diamond. It got busy after I left, so I must have gone at the right time.
I took her for the hour. I arrive and she leads me to Room #2 (in front) while holding my hand. We get to the room and she starts kissing me. I pay my fees (house + tip) for the hour. She helps me get undressed and leads me to the TS room. A very thorough TS with an oral unit rinse (she sips in water and uses her mouth to clean my unit). After the TS, she leads me back to the room.
Cleanliness is very important to her, so she sanitized her hands and other parts before starting the massage. She then suckled my back and lower. It felt wonderful. A very sensual massage ensued. She rubbed her entire body (including the beautifully upgraded C cups) all over me. She then had me flip. More of the same fun. She wanted to make sure that I was fully charged, so she started to use her mouth to make sure I was at full salute (I was).
On goes the cover, and she mounts my 9. 53* inch unit. She really got into it and was concerned that she would be walking around like she rode a horse for 4 hours. She the went RCG (horizontally) and that is when I finished.
Bottle of water was given to me. Diamond begged me not to leave, and the other available therapists rushed into the room and begged me to service them as well. Alas, I had to leave, but I shall definitely return.
*I had it officially measured by a testing laboratory. That number is accurate. See the official certificate (attached).
Yes, I had a little free time today to artistically enhance my story. But that is my story and I am sticking to it.
Be safe.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/asian-peaches-and-cream-beautiful-dreams-1-asian-team/18352115
I've noticed a couple of new AMPs have appeared on BP. Has anyone visited them?
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-excellent-asian-massage-winter-park-new-open-call-now-321-972-9231/18748594
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/asian-massage-grand-new-open-in-lake-mary-meet-the-best-relaxation-ever/18753543
I had the great opportunity to stop by BB and see Diamond. It got busy after I left, so I must have gone at the right time.
I took her for the hour. I arrive and she leads me to Room #2 (in front) while holding my hand. We get to the room and she starts kissing me. I pay my fees (house + tip) for the hour. She helps me get undressed and leads me to the TS room. A very thorough TS with an oral unit rinse (she sips in water and uses her mouth to clean my unit). After the TS, she leads me back to the room.
Cleanliness is very important to her, so she sanitized her hands and other parts before starting the massage. She then suckled my back and lower. It felt wonderful. A very sensual massage ensued. She rubbed her entire body (including the beautifully upgraded C cups) all over me. She then had me flip. More of the same fun. She wanted to make sure that I was fully charged, so she started to use her mouth to make sure I was at full salute (I was).Nice report Gent 100. But the million dollar question is, where does one go to get his unit measured!? LOL.
I guess there's a lab for everything these days because they know we'll do it!
MT314.
Gentleman 100
03-11-17, 08:57
I've noticed a couple of new AMPs have appeared on BP. Has anyone visited them?
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-excellent-asian-massage-winter-park-new-open-call-now-321-972-9231/18748594
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/asian-massage-grand-new-open-in-lake-mary-meet-the-best-relaxation-ever/18753543Not visited, but by judging by the ads and their addresses:
East Spa (Winter Park): I heard that there are limited upgrades because Winter Park does not like our hobby.
Asian Massage place (Lake Mary): it should be a possibility for upgrades. Seminole county sometimes is a safer environment for our hobby.
The only way to know for sure is to visit and possibly TOFTT, and then report back. Be safe.
It had been a while since I stopped by Luxsa, probably since Avalon left, the first time. Two visits in the last few weeks. First, yesnia, I believe her name was, very pretty latin, nice body but maybe YMMV with her. It was okay, got the job done, might repeat just to see if it gets better with her. Second visit I got SKY. Let me tell you. A very good experience. Young tight body, layed back, easy going, go with the flow. I will definitely repeat with her. Opted for an hour visit, stayed for 55 minutes, next time I'm thinking about the nuru session. Anyone has any feed back on that? Good, bad? Beside ther being no shower. Or any suggestion on who to see for nuru? Thanks.
Taster6969
03-11-17, 11:33
Not visited, but by judging by the ads and their addresses:
East Spa (Winter Park): I heard that there are limited upgrades because Winter Park does not like our hobby.
Asian Massage place (Lake Mary): it should be a possibility for upgrades. Seminole county sometimes is a safer environment for our hobby.
The only way to know for sure is to visit and possibly TOFTT, and then report back. Be safe.This place ok if your only looking for a Rub & Tug. Only have one Chinese girl working with very limited English. Gets the job done but no upgrades offered.
Overthepond13
03-11-17, 11:58
So I booked with Tina (first time) and opted for the $160 flat rate. I was excited because I dreamed that came with a CBJ if you brought your own rain coat. Now I don't want this to come off as a negative review, because a good time was had, but I was a little disappointed with certain elements. Firstly the location (college apartment) isn't great when you're used to more professional type establishments. Secondly, would it kill these girls to dress up a bit and maybe even put on some makeup? No sexy outfits to be seen and minimal attention to appearance I felt. The massage mostly consisted of spreading oil around, with some nice play back there. Overall clothes came off, my pinky got wet and the job got done, but it was made very clear to me that the CBJ was definitely not included in the 160. That was my main gripe. I did appreciate the shower at the end though and left fit to go back to work. This will probably not be a repeat for me.
Overthepond13
03-11-17, 12:03
So I tried to take one for the team with this girl during this past week, but couldn't get the stars to align. My big head is also saying no (due to overall lack of previous reviews and some oddities with our correspondence), but my little head is saying hubba hubba. Can anyone offer their opinion on which head I should follow? I like a decent-ish massage in a discreet and safe location with dreams up to CBJ.
https://orlando.craigslist.org/thp/6034967031.html
Miketastic69
03-11-17, 12:15
I liked it just wish I had made the connection while still in the store. It was the Publix by Unniversal.I have now officially seen a couple girls from past AMP experiences in Publix. For the life of me I cannot remember which spa but I never forget a face. I spoke to the most recent one, small talk and she was nice. I believe she remembered me too. My guess is that Oisha is near there and maybe they go eat there. Or, they live in a shared house somewhere in the vicinity and so not sleep at the AMP like a lot of girls do. I don't know, but I am now motivated to see if I ever see another provider outside an AMP if I can talk up getting phone numbers or finding out more about what they're doing in the area without breaching privacy and sensitivity. Not sure how unless she goes there.
Paid a visit to magic on obt yesterday mid morning. I was greeted by a small thin Asian who was the only masseuse there.
Opted tod the hour and TS. 80 $. The Ts was good but the location had no privacy other than a movable screen door. I did not notice it until she was finished with the ts. The massage was good but kept getting interrupted due to other mongers stopping by and asking questions. On the flip the full menu was offered. I opted for the standard handshake. I would repeats only if other options are not available. Just did not feel ok and her attitude made me want to leave.
Hey fellas who has the biggest top area in BB & CB? I'm planning a trip and want to see the biggest top twin rounded provider. Thanks.
PhotoMan343
03-12-17, 10:43
I had the great opportunity to stop by BB and see Diamond. It got busy after I left, so I must have gone at the right time.
I took her for the hour. I arrive and she leads me to Room #2 (in front) while holding my hand. We get to the room and she starts kissing me. I pay my fees (house + tip) for the hour. She helps me get undressed and leads me to the TS room. A very thorough TS with an oral unit rinse (she sips in water and uses her mouth to clean my unit). After the TS, she leads me back to the room.
Cleanliness is very important to her, so she sanitized her hands and other parts before starting the massage. She then suckled my back and lower. It felt wonderful. A very sensual massage ensued. She rubbed her entire body (including the beautifully upgraded C cups) all over me. She then had me flip. More of the same fun. She wanted to make sure that I was fully charged, so she started to use her mouth to make sure I was at full salute (I was).
On goes the cover, and she mounts my 9. 53* inch unit. She really got into it and was concerned that she would be walking around like she rode a horse for 4 hours. She the went RCG (horizontally) and that is when I finished.
Bottle of water was given to me. Diamond begged me not to leave, and the other available therapists rushed into the room and begged me to service them as well. Alas, I had to leave, but I shall definitely return.
*I had it officially measured by a testing laboratory. That number is accurate. See the official certificate (attached).
Yes, I had a little free time today to artistically enhance my story. But that is my story and I am sticking to it.
Be safe.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/asian-peaches-and-cream-beautiful-dreams-1-asian-team/18352115You think she would believe it if I had one of those? LOL.
So I tried to take one for the team with this girl during this past week, but couldn't get the stars to align. My big head is also saying no (due to overall lack of previous reviews and some oddities with our correspondence), but my little head is saying hubba hubba. Can anyone offer their opinion on which head I should follow? I like a decent-ish massage in a discreet and safe location with dreams up to CBJ.
https://orlando.craigslist.org/thp/6034967031.htmlI had a text conversation with her last week. She said draping was mandatory, a small drape. She also said no to sensual massage, 100% professional.
Had plans with my regular yesterday when she had car trouble and I had a couple hours before an appointment in Altamonte. Drove by CB and a chubby younger gal opened the door, disappointing as I was led to a closet way in the back. Decided to dream for a hh, light touch , no massage then right to BBBJ which seemed promising but was done in less than a minute. She put on a cover and rolled herself onto the table and moaned garlic breath in my face. Faked a finish and bolted as fast as I could, total waste was $$. Absolute worst experience ever at CB. Headed to Altamonte but still had an hour to kill so went by http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/fantastic-bodywork-new-management-1-asian-sexy-staff/18328062 where I'v had OK times prior. 40 yr old thin gal lead me to TS, all was good, massage was good then I was dreaming she took off all her clothes for a little DATY where she started bucking on my chin. Nice finish then more massage right up to the full hr. Total dmg here was $. 6, she wanted more but all I had. Not the day I hoped for, $$$.6 in damages, I have to learn when to walk away. Probably will be a while before I go back to CB.
Hey fellas who has the biggest top area in BB & CB? I'm planning a trip and want to see the biggest top twin rounded provider. Thanks.I've called twice in the past couple of weeks to ask this question (which I phrased as "who can you recommend with the largest cup size? Was told both times that the best therapists to see were either Mona at CB or Eileena at BB.
I too have been going to Michelle for a little while now. I had the same experience. She is very nice and fun, especially if you see her often and she gets to know you a little bit. I usually don't get the table shower, so it's $70 instead of $80 for the hour.
She does give an amazing massage and the flip is even better! Yesterdays dream involved a wonderful CBJ followed by cg, rcg, doggie, and finished in mish. The total damage was $. 7.
As I was leaving, a new girl was taking someone into the room. She was late smoking hot! I'm going to return soon and try to set something up with her. Don't waste your time with the other middle aged lady in there. I'd leave if she was the only one available.
I recently saw her and it was terrible. She pretty much wiped oil all over me, had me flip, and she was ready to be done. She started with a HJ then put a cover on. She climbed on and there was absolutely nothing. She literally rode without any emotion at all. That was the most mechanical dream I've ever had.I see in some of the posts, that you guys say "The total damage was $. 7" or something else along that format. What is that saying exactly? 7 extra dollars on top of the 70 you already paid or what?
Gentleman 100
03-13-17, 07:10
I see in some of the posts, that you guys say "The total damage was $. 7" or something else along that format. What is that saying exactly? 7 extra dollars on top of the 70 you already paid or what?Read the Abbreviations page (see button on top of every page) for valuable time-saving abbreviations. Be safe.
Gentleman 100
03-13-17, 07:15
I've called twice in the past couple of weeks to ask this question (which I phrased as "who can you recommend with the largest cup size? Was told both times that the best therapists to see were either Mona at CB or Eileena at BB.I am a breast man, myself. My experiences at CB and BB, all the girls are proportionately large breasts. There are usually 5 girls at each place, so you should be able to find what you need. I recently saw Diamond at BB. She has enhanced Asian C Cups, but all the girls I have seen there are what I want in a girl (nice boobs, skinny, great Asian attitude, and putting my pleasure as #1).
Be safe.
Gentleman 100
03-13-17, 07:24
Had plans with my regular yesterday when she had car trouble and I had a couple hours before an appointment in Altamonte. Drove by CB and a chubby younger gal opened the door, disappointing as I was led to a closet way in the back. Decided to dream for a hh, light touch , no massage then right to BBBJ which seemed promising but was done in less than a minute. She put on a cover and rolled herself onto the table and moaned garlic breath in my face. Faked a finish and bolted as fast as I could, total waste was $$. Absolute worst experience ever at CB. Headed to Altamonte but still had an hour to kill so went by http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/fantastic-bodywork-new-management-1-asian-sexy-staff/18328062 where I'v had OK times prior. 40 yr old thin gal lead me to TS, all was good, massage was good then I was dreaming she took off all her clothes for a little DATY where she started bucking on my chin. Nice finish then more massage right up to the full hr. Total dmg here was $. 6, she wanted more but all I had. Not the day I hoped for, $$$.6 in damages, I have to learn when to walk away. Probably will be a while before I go back to CB.Too bad you had a less than stellar experience at CB. Fear not, all is well. CB should be getting a new stable of playmates (I mean therapists) soon. I had a similar experience at Luxsa with Bebe. She definitely rushed me and had Latina-powered bad breath. I held steadfast and finished, but I won't be seeing Bebe again. I will return to Luxsa again.
My point is, CB and BB are solid and reliable. Sometimes the therapists are not always on their A-Game, but I will always go back for more. Be safe.
Stopped in to BB on Friday. Paris answered the bell. Chose the 45 min experience and boy did I leave happy. Beautiful girl great attitude and body. I had gotten out of the AMP scene for awhile because of the high price tag and lackluster performance but this experience has renewed my faith. Saw three other girls there as I was being led to and from my room all beauties. I will be visiting again as soon as recover from the $$ wallet punch.
PhotoMan343
03-13-17, 09:11
I am a breast man, myself. My experiences at CB and BB, all the girls are proportionately large breasts. There are usually 5 girls at each place, so you should be able to find what you need. I recently saw Diamond at BB. She has enhanced Asian C Cups, but all the girls I have seen there are what I want in a girl (nice boobs, skinny, great Asian attitude, and putting my pleasure as #1).
Be safe.I concur saw Diamond last week. Great ample breasts and great attitude. By the way always fresh breath.
You can't go wrong at BB. It is newer than CB and its my choice for sure.
Be safe.
BigStudOrl
03-13-17, 11:09
Went by Bb last week as it had been a while. I've been seeing cici at magic weekly as she has the worlds best natural asian rack, but is on vacation so hello bb for some FS. I never call as I like the variety here and got right in via the back entrance. Met by extreme hottie, led to room and donation taken. Then other girl comes in, now she wasnt as hot, but was waaaay more flirty and into it. Yuki came right up to me for some dfk. Darker skin, thin, man made c's and some slutty tats. So right from the get go she is just allll over me. Lick my fingers and then using them for herself. Had to wait for th shower so she just got right into a BBBJ with tha suction and then the face smearing. Oh ok I think this is a pse AMP chick. Nice shower where we clean each other then back to room for fun. All letters and postions done. Her head nailed the wall several times. Then she is all with the I love you and nice dirty talk then begs and reminds me that I am to finish in one place and to make sure she gets it. Well I pull and damn she just drops and moves us in front of mirror for epic finish. Then a massage and rush out. Peaches comes in to dress me head to toe down to my socks and she was super hot and meak and showing off the crotch. Amazong model here they have you horny on entrance and exit with the best session in between in this town. $$. 2 hour I would go daily if possible.
So I booked with Tina (first time) and opted for the $160 flat rate. I was excited because I dreamed that came with a CBJ if you brought your own rain coat. Now I don't want this to come off as a negative review, because a good time was had, but I was a little disappointed with certain elements. Firstly the location (college apartment) isn't great when you're used to more professional type establishments. Secondly, would it kill these girls to dress up a bit and maybe even put on some makeup? No sexy outfits to be seen and minimal attention to appearance I felt. The massage mostly consisted of spreading oil around, with some nice play back there. Overall clothes came off, my pinky got wet and the job got done, but it was made very clear to me that the CBJ was definitely not included in the 160. That was my main gripe. I did appreciate the shower at the end though and left fit to go back to work. This will probably not be a repeat for me.
I concur.
I had a similar experience and after the door fee of 1. 6 and wanted more for the Oral exam I thought that it was too much for the over all appt.
Gentleman 100
03-13-17, 14:16
Stopped in to BB on Friday. Paris answered the bell. Chose the 45 min experience and boy did I leave happy. Beautiful girl great attitude and body. I had gotten out of the AMP scene for awhile because of the high price tag and lackluster performance but this experience has renewed my faith. Saw three other girls there as I was being led to and from my room all beauties. I will be visiting again as soon as recover from the $$ wallet punch.I just called BB and was told that Paris left in January. I think you heard the wrong name.
Anyone partake yet? May TOFTT tomorrow. PMs are good if you prefer not to post.
Many thanks.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/emma-massage-grand-opening-new-face-lake-mary-407-968-1218/18826963
So I booked with Tina (first time) and opted for the $160 flat rate. I was excited because I dreamed that came with a CBJ if you brought your own rain coat. Now I don't want this to come off as a negative review, because a good time was had, but I was a little disappointed with certain elements. Firstly the location (college apartment) isn't great when you're used to more professional type establishments. Secondly, would it kill these girls to dress up a bit and maybe even put on some makeup? No sexy outfits to be seen and minimal attention to appearance I felt. The massage mostly consisted of spreading oil around, with some nice play back there. Overall clothes came off, my pinky got wet and the job got done, but it was made very clear to me that the CBJ was definitely not included in the 160. That was my main gripe. I did appreciate the shower at the end though and left fit to go back to work. This will probably not be a repeat for me.
I concur.
I had a similar experience and after the door fee of 1. 6 and wanted more for the Oral exam I thought that it was too much for the over all appt.I also expected CBJ to be included, however, Tina wanted an extra $1. 0. $2. 60 is too much for a HE and CBJ, so I just ended up with a HE. I was able to DATY and FIV for a short period of time. She does have a tight body.
One of my favs has gone missing. I called Magic recently for an appointment with Runa and was told she is gone and not coming back. Does anyone know if she is still in the area or have contact info for her?
NH.
I also expected CBJ to be included, however, Tina wanted an extra $1. 0. $2. 60 is too much for a HE and CBJ, so I just ended up with a HE. I was able to DATY and FIV for a short period of time. She does have a tight body.She always upsells big time. No thanks.
BigStudOrl
03-14-17, 11:19
One of my favs has gone missing. I called Magic recently for an appointment with Runa and was told she is gone and not coming back. Does anyone know if she is still in the area or have contact info for her?
NH.I've been a magic regular for years and gone thru several favorites that I never saw again: lisa w braces, yoko, hannah etc. Yumi did leave for months and came back. Usually they leave the scene or get sent elsewhere. Runa didn't seem to into imo. Lackluster massage and stroke but did let me do fiv where none others did. But hey I get it YMMV. If they are "on vacation" they will return. If they say she gone she gone buddy. Try cici when she returns. Amazing hootahs!! Excellent massage.
ImNewAtThis
03-14-17, 11:46
Anyone partake yet? May TOFTT tomorrow. PMs are good if you prefer not to post.
Many thanks.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/emma-massage-grand-opening-new-face-lake-mary-407-968-1218/18826963I went there yesterday. $. 70 for the hour. Beautiful therapist. Mid 30's, nice thin shape. She wore jeans so not much roaming, but on the flip standard finish and definitely seemed like there is more on the menu.
AmpExplorer
03-14-17, 13:53
Placed a visit to BB. It was before 11 am. The place was already busy. If this place existed in Boston area I would guess it would be busy in the morning. I even had to sit on the front entrance "casting couch". Waited only 5.
Minutes. A pretty friendly petite lady Peaches comes to get me. She was very friendly GFE from start. She gives me a very nice TS and is polite asking ok to meet "Big Boss". She takes me back to our room to start. She is barely 2 minutes in and I hear someone calling her. Speaking loudly in Chinese and she steps out. Bye Peaches. In walks another woman "Tracey" she is pretty appears older than Peaches. Her massage touch / technique was actually better. Peaches had "an appointment" . I was more aggravated than angry. Tracey did a nice job and we had all the expected fun and I paid 1. 4.
It has been years since I got swicharoo'd for whatever reason. I had a great first impression w Peaches. The place was busy. I felt a bit rushed out. Back in AMP glory days we had a place in Providence Ri. The younger mamasan would sit you on the casting couch, flirt with you and ask for critique on the ladies.
Is there a proper way of asking to see the different girls in a MP before paying?
It's common for guys to ask to see everyone who is available, just be polite and ask if the girl is the only one available and ask to see the others who are available. If the girl isn't want your looking for don't be afraid to say that you are looking for someone or something else and say you will return later.
Is there a proper way of asking to see the different girls in a MP before paying?
Is there a proper way of asking to see the different girls in a MP before paying?Could ask to see a lineup. I know crystals in Tampa allows it. Worst they can say is no.
CapnMorgan88
03-14-17, 16:20
Long timer lurker, rarely post. But feel I owe it since so much received from this board, thanks all, for real! Sorry for length but it truly was an awesome dream.
AMP fan here based, in Daytona where there is standard fare and nothing more, but still fun. Had flight back into MCO 3 weeks back and decided to swing by the BB (for first time) on way home on a rainy Wed night -- I fell asleep on the plane ride, this was the dream.
Called ahead on way from MCO to BB to see if any larger sized ladies (boob man) and in my dream lady say at BB, Eileen (or Ellen? I arrive around 9 pm or so and make entrance. Nice lobby, greeted by cute petite gal, I asked her for Eileen and she says ok -- from the back comes this pretty lass, so cute, and yes, nice natural (seemed to me) c cup, taller than most of the AMP workers, approved.
Usual mario coins to house for hour (.8) and shower, while she was paying house I dropped USA recommended (thanks!) tip amount 160 mario coins into bowl at head of bed. She spied mario on return. Seemed enthusiastic and so off to shower we go as my dream continued.
In dream, there was lots of roaming with the shower washing / scrubbing, very fun and playful w / water -- little preview of the BBBJ there. So back to the room for massage.
In my dream massage was medium / light touch I'd say average but this is just appetizer -- while on stomach she BBBJ the Johnson which was way awesome, and she did that for awhile. Thanks you. Next was DATY, super fresh, clean just wonderful she was into it, in my now awesome dream. Next she pulled me up and positioned Johnson such that it looked like entry w / no raincoat (but she had raincoat positioned right in front of her magic love tunnel so she covered on way in, that was a first (cool). Awesome mish while she really good acting 'love you baby' so cute -- next was CG then Doggie then back to mish for apex, peak. It was off w / coat so could land swimmers on boobies (dream fav) -- she helped w / HJ and small drop made her cheek, I'm like oh sorry I know that not approved but she says no worries AND then with no coat on slides still hard johnson back in her magic love tunnel! She really wanted to feel it some more -- again, amazing acting prolly but seemed legit desire for me to return to lovely lower lips. Held there for a couple minutes then she pulls him out and we hug for a bit before clean up shower. (In my dream she scrubbed herself very, very, very thoroughly before and after, just FYI).
Hands down hottest dream in my entire experience (about 30 years, as 50 yr old gent). Thanks to everyone for their tips and tricks! I have to say BB is THE chart topper location. If you're thinking about a dream, dream forth. A+, 4 stars out of 4 stars!
Sillyolman
03-14-17, 17:53
Is there a proper way of asking to see the different girls in a MP before paying?Asking for someone other than the one assigned to you is a BIG no can do. I asked after drawing Cici on my last visit. I love Cici, she is tiny with a great body and gives an excellent massage and lord I do love tiny, petite women. But, she was who I drew on my last several visits and I wanted to experience someone else. After a big discussion between the girls in Korean, Sarah came into my room. She made it clear right from the start that she was not happy to be there. In the shower she tried to assert her dominance and made her feelings known without saying a word. Back in the room the massage began where she took the opportunity to directly scold me for requesting someone different. It made no difference to her that I had been there multiple times and experienced Cici multiple times and wanted to experience someone different.
Is there a proper way of asking to see the different girls in a MP before paying?Could ask to see a lineup. I know crystals in Tampa allows it. Worst they can say is no.I think a lot of places like to see that each girl gets her "turn" as a way to maintain civility among the staff (they don't need or want a lot of bitching by the girls about the ONE that's getting all the business), but I agree that it would be polite enough to simply say, immediately upon entering, "Hi there, may I see who's working and available"?
Of course, it can get a little awkward if one of the actual attendants answers the door, as she is obviously "next up" and you're basically telling her that you don't like her. Don't let that worry you. You're not necessarily there to be sensitive to their feelings! Even if the "next up" attendant answers the door, if you could get that question out quickly enough, as though you plan to ask that regardless of her appearance, you could reduce some of the potential awkwardness you may feel. Asking any Mamasan is easier, but if she wants to maintain the set rotation, she may tell you something like "All girl wery pritty". You also might not get to see the full line-up if one, or more, of the staff on duty are already engaged with another client.
Kim's Massage (in Tampa) makes a practice of assuring you get introduced to ALL of the rest of the available staff, by name, on your way OUT after your session. They're trying to tempt you to come back and ask for one of those girls next time. Yet Mamasan will only make ONE girl available on your way IN (of course, they DO let you request to see a particular girl if you know the name and ASK for her on your way IN). I think you'll see a lot of reports here that guys visiting BB or CB seem to see a lot of the other girls milling about, not always after the session. . . They may not introduce them by name, but I'm pretty sure the display is on purpose as a way to pique the interest of departing clients to return as soon as possible.
True Scotsman
03-14-17, 21:02
Tried Luxsa on Sunday morning Chantell, (pretty face nice rack) I think was her name. 60 house fee 160 on the table so was expecting a great time after being at CB 4 times & leaving very happy.
I was so wrong. Total rip off I have had a better time at an AMP for 40 tip many times. She was more interested in getting back for her lunch, that, she was ordering by phone when I arrived (think she should miss lunch a few times to get her body back Into shape) she said it's her part time job and works Friday and Sundays only. I think she should stick to her full time job and stop ripping off visitors to Orlando. I would of rathered given the 220 to the homeless, at least I would of had a good feeling about it. Going by my experience Avoid picking her if you value your hard earned cash. Lunch comes first with her and you ((don't.)) I would of returned a few times this week and was going to pick her sister next time! But once bitten twice shy. Went back to see Mona at CB she is fantastic 100% as opposed to Chattel at Luxsa 10% to be kind. She talks nice and is fun but I don't pay 220 for that. So I sign out as being unhappy& Ripped off by Chantell.
TampaJohnDoe
03-14-17, 21:23
I went there yesterday. $. 70 for the hour. Beautiful therapist. Mid 30's, nice thin shape. She wore jeans so not much roaming, but on the flip standard finish and definitely seemed like there is more on the menu.How much did you tip? I'm in the area from Tampa I'm close to this place. Thanks.
I went to Kim's close to a year ago and I asked if anyone else is available and she said yes one minute. She went and got another girl I had seen before and they were slow it was early Sunday morning. The second girl said I see you before I will give you a good deal we will both give you shower and you pick who you want after. Let's say it was pretty much a two for one because all three of us played in the shower for an hour. Amazing time she told me not to tell anyone at the time but it was so long ago no one will know who it was. So sometimes asking can lead to fun adventures.
I think a lot of places like to see that each girl gets her "turn" as a way to maintain civility among the staff (they don't need or want a lot of bitching by the girls about the ONE that's getting all the business), but I agree that it would be polite enough to simply say, immediately upon entering, "Hi there, may I see who's working and available"?
Of course, it can get a little awkward if one of the actual attendants answers the door, as she is obviously "next up" and you're basically telling her that you don't like her. Don't let that worry you. You're not necessarily there to be sensitive to their feelings! Even if the "next up" attendant answers the door, if you could get that question out quickly enough, as though you plan to ask that regardless of her appearance, you could reduce some of the potential awkwardness you may feel. Asking any Mamasan is easier, but if she wants to maintain the set rotation, she may tell you something like "All girl wery pritty". You also might not get to see the full line-up if one, or more, of the staff on duty are already engaged with another client.
Kim's Massage (in Tampa) makes a practice of assuring you get introduced to ALL of the rest of the available staff, by name, on your way OUT after your session. They're trying to tempt you to come back and ask for one of those girls next time. Yet Mamasan will only make ONE girl available on your way IN (of course, they DO let you request to see a particular girl if you know the name and ASK for her on your way IN). I think you'll see a lot of reports here that guys visiting BB or CB seem to see a lot of the other girls milling about, not always after the session. . . They may not introduce them by name, but I'm pretty sure the display is on purpose as a way to pique the interest of departing clients to return as soon as possible.
Was looking at this place in Casselberry wondering it anyone got lucky LOL Magic is just down the road so I don't know if I should waists my time.
Cheers.
So I was a regular at M&H and it was pretty awesome for legit and cheap now the sign has changed but the new workers are parading around with the old ones names LOL. I noticed the BP add got edgy and now open till 10 pm looks like more fun but haven't been able to get anything help anyone know the trick.
Gentleman 100
03-15-17, 17:21
On my last visit to BB, I asked to see the girls who were available (lineup). 4 beautiful girls came out and I chose the one I desired.
On your next visit to BB or CB, be sure to ask for a lineup of the girls (ask to see the girls working there). Since we can ask for a certain provider, why should you risk not getting your choice when you arrive if you don't know who is working or if your favorite is no longer there? Makes sense to me.
Just do it!
Be safe.
On my last visit to BB, I asked to see the girls who were available (lineup). 4 beautiful girls came out and I chose the one I desired.
On your next visit to BB or CB, be sure to ask for a lineup of the girls (ask to see the girls working there). Since we can ask for a certain provider, why should you risk not getting your choice when you arrive if you don't know who is working or if your favorite is no longer there? Makes sense to me.
Just do it!
Be safe.Yeah. . . But. . . What if I see all four, and then I WANT all four! That would be the downside for me! Imagine what a four-girl-romp would cost! When I don't have a choice, it's impossible to make the wrong one. LOL! This is just my personal weakness and probably doesn't apply to everyone.
I left Orlando nearly 3 years ago, loved the massage ladies.
I'm coming down for a week soon, saw BB and CB on reviews here.
Where are they? PM me please.
Guess Heidi is gone?
Any help is appreciated.
Longtime lurker here just now deciding to post. Dreamed of BB a few weeks ago. Hour dream but I had to wake up early due to something else coming up. Good dream overall.
Just had another dream at BB. Very lackluster dream. Got the hour dream with "peach" . In the dream there was no ambient music until several minutes into the massage when she turned it on and also decided to grab the oil / lotion. Massage was good. On the flip side I dreamed that the massage per-se ended and turned to gentle caressing. This part of the dream wasn't as good because my recruit (as GySgt Hartman puts it) "speaks only when spoken to" Peach repeatedly was asking "are you ok" She finally grasped what was going on and went for a more direct approach to which I dreamed of settling only for the HE. Was very mechanical, switched hands maybe every 15 seconds. Didn't have a great grip or motion. Finally my recruit sounds off like he's got a pair and cleanup happens. Then I dream I sit up and my back gets massaged some more and then I am told "ok" and she starts packing up the towels and such. I understand it's time to bounce so I get dressed too and she tries to swindle me into putting out a larger tip "you pay for half hour tip, you pay for hour massage" My dream so far was 35 minutes at the very most. Leave out a hamilton to keep the peace, to which I dream she makes a disgusted face and points for more. At this point I just finish dressing and leave.
Should've just whipped out the old nintendo 64 instead of dreaming.
I left Orlando nearly 3 years ago, loved the massage ladies.
I'm coming down for a week soon, saw BB and CB on reviews here.
Where are they? PM me please.
Guess Heidi is gone?
Any help is appreciated.Since the location is publicly advertised and not terribly secret, I see no reason for a PM for what I have to offer:
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/bora-bora-hot-asian-service-new-young-hotties-3-8-17/16941329
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/hot-sexy-asian-galore-new-hot-girls-now-mar-8-we-gonna-make-ya-roar/18318871
Along with the addresses, hours of operation, and links to Google Maps, the House Fee rates are also listed in those ads (all pics are fake, but actual girls are still pretty darned good, perhaps best in town). Common practice reported here as been to tip 160 for the hour (and, I believe, you should try 140 for the HALF hour).
Anyone know if 4 hand sessions can be done at BB / CB? Do I have to call ahead to book the two massage therapists I want? Does it come with a higher house fee? As for tip, I assume that I would just bring double the normal tip amount with me right?
Gentleman 100
03-16-17, 07:43
Longtime lurker here just now deciding to post. Dreamed of BB a few weeks ago. Hour dream but I had to wake up early due to something else coming up. Good dream overall.
Just had another dream at BB. Very lackluster dream. Got the hour dream with "peach" . In the dream there was no ambient music until several minutes into the massage when she turned it on and also decided to grab the oil / lotion. Massage was good. On the flip side I dreamed that the massage per-se ended and turned to gentle caressing. This part of the dream wasn't as good because my recruit (as GySgt Hartman puts it) "speaks only when spoken to" Peach repeatedly was asking "are you ok" She finally grasped what was going on and went for a more direct approach to which I dreamed of settling only for the HE. Was very mechanical, switched hands maybe every 15 seconds. Didn't have a great grip or motion. Finally my recruit sounds off like he's got a pair and cleanup happens. Then I dream I sit up and my back gets massaged some more and then I am told "ok" and she starts packing up the towels and such. I understand it's time to bounce so I get dressed too and she tries to swindle me into putting out a larger tip "you pay for half hour tip, you pay for hour massage" My dream so far was 35 minutes at the very most. Leave out a hamilton to keep the peace, to which I dream she makes a disgusted face and points for more. At this point I just finish dressing and leave.
Should've just whipped out the old nintendo 64 instead of dreaming.Firstly, welcome to the forum WalBarrel. Too bad your first post is of a negative experience.
My experience at both BB and CB have always been great. I know how to play the game (positive attitude, generous demeanor, etc.).
General suggestions to everyone for a great time: leave the bad attitudes at home, don't go to BB or CB after doing outdoor work, and be polite. You would be amazed at the great service you can get with a great attitude. This suggestion is not directed at any particular member, just my golden rule.
Be safe.
Longtime lurker here just now deciding to post. Dreamed of BB a few weeks ago. Hour dream but I had to wake up early due to something else coming up. Good dream overall.
Just had another dream at BB. Very lackluster dream. Got the hour dream with "peach" . In the dream there was no ambient music until several minutes into the massage when she turned it on and also decided to grab the oil / lotion. Massage was good. On the flip side I dreamed that the massage per-se ended and turned to gentle caressing. This part of the dream wasn't as good because my recruit (as GySgt Hartman puts it) "speaks only when spoken to" Peach repeatedly was asking "are you ok" She finally grasped what was going on and went for a more direct approach to which I dreamed of settling only for the HE. Was very mechanical, switched hands maybe every 15 seconds. Didn't have a great grip or motion. Finally my recruit sounds off like he's got a pair and cleanup happens. Then I dream I sit up and my back gets massaged some more and then I am told "ok" and she starts packing up the towels and such. I understand it's time to bounce so I get dressed too and she tries to swindle me into putting out a larger tip "you pay for half hour tip, you pay for hour massage" My dream so far was 35 minutes at the very most. Leave out a hamilton to keep the peace, to which I dream she makes a disgusted face and points for more. At this point I just finish dressing and leave.
Should've just whipped out the old nintendo 64 instead of dreaming.Interesting. I actually had a somewhat similar experience with Peaches (or Peach, I don't remember exactly) a couple weeks ago at BB. While not an overall poor experience, it wasn't exactly what I'd come to expect with BB. I didn't get hit up for extra tip or anything like that, but the word you used -- lackluster -- is exactly what I experienced. Certainly the next time I go back, if Peaches answers the door I'll ask to see a lineup (which I've never done before). I still love me some BB though!
CallMeMatthew
03-16-17, 10:38
So there is a new AMP on Gene st.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-excellent-asian-massage-winter-park-new-open-call-now-321-972-9231/18748594
I TOFTT and had a decent experience. This is NOT CB or BB. . 7 for an hour. Tip for HE was. 6 - too much but I did not feel like arguing. Overall price was about what you pay elsewhere b / c the door fee was a little less. I was seen by Lisa. There is another girl Sissy? Who was coming in the door when I left. Neither are gorgeous, but Lisa's massage skills were excellent. They are not ugly either. The HE was a workout for her but she was persistent. . Sometimes that happens. Glad she kept going. She has large mm tits that are nice to play with. Tight workout pants stayed put but I managed some roaming with some effort.
Everything was new and very clean. No table shower yet, but I prefer the stand up anyhow to wash off after.
Lisa is very accommodating and wants to make people happy and is looking for more business. So you may get more for less, or not. As always, YMMV. I will likely repeat and see if it gets better, and see if I can get away with less $ out of my wallet. Harold is right around the corner and that is always a sure bet for a good massage where you will leave happy. All in all these places are fairly comparable.
HotnReadyGuy
03-16-17, 11:13
So I tried to take one for the team with this girl during this past week, but couldn't get the stars to align. My big head is also saying no (due to overall lack of previous reviews and some oddities with our correspondence), but my little head is saying hubba hubba. Can anyone offer their opinion on which head I should follow? I like a decent-ish massage in a discreet and safe location with dreams up to CBJ.
https://orlando.craigslist.org/thp/6034967031.htmlDon't see her unless you want a decent massage with no extras.
She worked with Toni and does not offer anything extra. Waste of time.
Had a dream I woke up with a sore back and decided I needed a massage, in the dream I found this Colombian / Dominican mixed masseuse. Real nice body and great hand pressure. I did not get the girl in the pic that's her partner but if she really looks like that I will be back for the 4 handed dream!!
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/credit-accepted-clean-office-location-book-now-take-a-break-from-the-norm/14627474
Yes you can and yes I call ahead with such requests and make an appointment.
Anyone know if 4 hand sessions can be done at BB / CB? Do I have to call ahead to book the two massage therapists I want? Does it come with a higher house fee? As for tip, I assume that I would just bring double the normal tip amount with me right?
NaughtyBoy1
03-16-17, 13:33
Was this just a massage or any extras were there in the menu.
Had a dream I woke up with a sore back and decided I needed a massage, in the dream I found this Colombian / Dominican mixed masseuse. Real nice body and great hand pressure. I did not get the girl in the pic that's her partner but if she really looks like that I will be back for the 4 handed dream!!
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/credit-accepted-clean-office-location-book-now-take-a-break-from-the-norm/14627474
Sillyolman
03-16-17, 18:10
Was this just a massage or any extras were there in the menu.That had better include some extras with a minimal tip if it was HE only.
Had a dream I woke up with a sore back and decided I needed a massage, in the dream I found this Colombian / Dominican mixed masseuse. Real nice body and great hand pressure. I did not get the girl in the pic that's her partner but if she really looks like that I will be back for the 4 handed dream!!
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/credit-accepted-clean-office-location-book-now-take-a-break-from-the-norm/14627474Any extras? Did she get nude? B2 b?
Any extras? Did she get nude? B2 b?Top came off without asking and then the fun began, lots of roaming. Bottom stayed on, she said next time everything will be removed. She Finished me with a good h. E.
Ask for some info and no response.
Stay classy Orlando.
Ask for some info and no response.
Stay classy Orlando.BB = Bora Bora.
CB = Cherry Blossom.
You can find them on Google Maps, both locations are about 5-10 minutes from each other.
After two consecutive so-so experiences at BB decided to give them one more try. Drew Peach and she really is!! Very cute, nice natural body and very attentive. Definitely two thumbs up. Let me say however that even a so-so experience at BB is still pretty good compared to the competition (save CB). So relatively speaking BB is back in my good graces. Peach saves the protection for only the important part which was much appreciated.
So I haven't written a report in a while so here goes. Had a daydream at BB (popped my cherry), drew Yuki and had a great time right out of the shoot. This place is as crowded as a Wal-mart on Black Friday. Before I left my car, three guys were knocking on the backdoor. I have no idea who they got, but Yuki came to me with big smiles and nice bolt-ons. Sexy girl, looking for a good time. Opted for 30 minutes bc I had no belief that I would last longer than that. As it turns out, I was a porn star and so was Yuki. Some of the best BBBJ with DT. I am not going to be confused for Lexington Steele anytime soon but I am no Spud Webb either. She took it all in and all down. On went the cover and multiple positions like an arthritic Karma Sutra and pretty soon I was in need of oxygen. She threw me down on the table after a couple of different positions and finished me deep throated. All I can say is wow. I wanted to cum on her tatoos which are my new favorite porn videos and a lot of fun in person but instead I came in her mouth and then on her face which is still fun too. She spit like a major league ball player, washed up and we were done. Standard house fee for the hh. I had $. 4 for the tip but Yuki was ready to go even before. I was looking for a place to leave the tip but I just ended up with it on the table. Lots of Fun. -- Dog.
Ask for some info and no response.
Stay classy Orlando.You guys going to let him dis you like that!? (I'm not really a local). The original post did ask for a PM, but he was apparently too lazy to revisit the thread to check for a reply. . . Which had ALL the info he was looking for just two posts and 6 hours apart from that original inquiry!
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3666-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=3311053#post3311053
I don't mean to piss off poor Paddy, but based on recent experience, I don't really expect he'll find this public reply post anyway, so I went ahead and gave him the same pointer in the convenience of his inbox. C'est la Vie!
Took one for the team there at Lake Emma road. Small shopping center. Not private at all. I don't like to say bad things about places, but I guaranteee you I will not repeat. Save your money brethren. Nothing to see, move on.
You guys going to let him dis you like that!? (I'm not really a local). The original post did ask for a PM, but he was apparently too lazy to revisit the thread to check for a reply. . . Which had ALL the info he was looking for just two posts and 6 hours apart from that original inquiry!
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?3666-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=3311053#post3311053
I don't mean to piss off poor Paddy, but based on recent experience, I don't really expect he'll find this public reply post anyway, so I went ahead and gave him the same pointer in the convenience of his inbox. C'est la Vie!Didn't see the post, so I apologize, I didn't mean to piss you good people off.
Hard Working 19
03-17-17, 17:49
Ask for some info and no response.
Stay classy Orlando.You did get a response. MrBill469 gave you the information you requested. Reading is fundamental.
Sillyolman
03-17-17, 19:13
Ask for some info and no response.
Stay classy Orlando.You want us to fuck her for you to and tell you how much she enjoyed it. WTF?
Tried Luxsa on Sunday morning Chantell, (pretty face nice rack) I think was her name. 60 house fee 160 on the table so was expecting a great time after being at CB 4 times & leaving very happy.
I was so wrong. Total rip off I have had a better time at an AMP for 40 tip many times. She was more interested in getting back for her lunch, that, she was ordering by phone when I arrived (think she should miss lunch a few times to get her body back Into shape) she said it's her part time job and works Friday and Sundays only. I think she should stick to her full time job and stop ripping off visitors to Orlando. I would of rathered given the 220 to the homeless, at least I would of had a good feeling about it. Going by my experience Avoid picking her if you value your hard earned cash. Lunch comes first with her and you ((don't.)) I would of returned a few times this week and was going to pick her sister next time! But once bitten twice shy. Went back to see Mona at CB she is fantastic 100% as opposed to Chattel at Luxsa 10% to be kind. She talks nice and is fun but I don't pay 220 for that. So I sign out as being unhappy& Ripped off by Chantell.Try Selena, she's good fun, but expensive. She used to do fetish porn, but I didn't say that.
Gentleman 100
03-17-17, 20:04
I thought that I would share why I go to my 2 favorite AMPs, BB and CB. They are both like a mini-vacation from the everyday world. Or, maybe better put, they are an adult fantasy world.
I get to go there for either 30 or 60 minutes. I get to choose from a lineup of beautiful and accommodating Asian masseuses. I leave happy and relaxed.
For that precious time I am there, I can leave all my worries and baggage behind me. When I am there, I get to be in my own fantasy porn experience. I also get to experience different girls over time. And, if the place looks busy, 9 times out of 10 they will have a therapist available to take me right away.
I plan on going this weekend. You should also go to your own favorite adult paradise. Mine are nicknamed BB and CB.
Be safe.
WrongShield
03-18-17, 02:40
A few weeks ago I saw Yuki at BB. She was amazing. I highly recommend that tongue. The rest was just as good, but that tongue was amazing.
Try Selena
She used to do fetish porn, but I didn't say that.Under what name? PM details please?
Gentleman 100
03-18-17, 08:14
Try Selena, she's good fun, but expensive. She used to do fetish porn, but I didn't say that.Selena is my current favorite at Luxsa. If you like a Latina with perfect bolt-ons, try her.
I do love my Asian providers, though. If you want to be treated like a king, go to our 2 favorite AMPs. Be safe.
USTraveller
03-18-17, 08:34
I enjoy TG Spa and stop in every few months. I did so recently and a had a new to me therapist named Jung or Yung. She is likely late 30's, and cute, with a slender build, tight backside and nice full B cups. I asked for a hard massage and the value of her massage was outstanding. But she provided her outstanding massage in a way which was to me very sexy. She is small so as soon as she started on my back she hopped on the table and straddled me. She was wearing very short shorts so there was a lot of skin to skin contact. She mounted herself right at the crack of my ass and rocked back and forth as she massaged my back. It was nearly like dry humping. Then as she got off the table with my arms hanging to the sides she positioned her legs so my arm was between them. As moved down my back side her hand found a place right on my anus and touched it lightly. Before the flip there was a lot of play near the boys and on my a-hole. One the flip she was literally all over me. It was like we were lovers.
She did not disrobe and only a HJ was given though she did a simulated BJ. It was incredibly satisfying to me and all for a standard tip. I had one of my best experiences in an AMP with her. I was really pleased with the session.
TG is very basic in terms of its interior. The therapists are attractive but not CB or BB grade. I always get a great massage for the full hour and have never left disappointed. Jung or Yung was the best of always very good therapists I have had at TG.Thanks for the review of this place. I stopped in around 7 p one weekday evening and Cindy answered the door. Not the prettiest gal, but very short and tiny which I like. Paid for the hour (. 7) and had to ask for the TS. Not very much roaming but everything was cleaned and rinsed. A little brush of her hair when she was drying me off and back to the room. Massage was good, a little too hard for my taste and had to tell her to be more gentle. Got the standard massage and I brushed her legs whenever I had the chance. Then the soft touch around the back of Mr. Johnson began. She roamed further than any AMP I've been too and eventually finished me off on the flip while doing the ol prostate. That was a first for me. Cleaned up, finished massage, got dressed and left. 6 on the table. I will definitely go back. I'm a HJ guy as nobody does one of those like an AMP girl!
Took one for the team there at Lake Emma road. Small shopping center. Not private at all. I don't like to say bad things about places, but I guaranteee you I will not repeat. Save your money brethren. Nothing to see, move on.Stopped by there on Tuesday to TOFTT, but she was busy and the wait was about 15 minutes. While decent looking gal I wasn't that interested so decided not to wait. Glad I left now. Sorry you had to do it.
Called ahead and chatted to owner who knows me and my likes and recommended Diamond.
I was totally impressed. Very friendly young (23), not great English, but a very attractive young lady. Beautiful face, long lustrous hair and very perky body with sexy C's with long nipples.
Washed me very thoroughly where it counts, so I anticipated some attention when we got back to the room, and sure enough she didn't disappoint.
Soft massage but then slid all over my back with some sexy Nuru moves, before we got down to business. I must say a very satisfying session with one of the cutest girls ever.
This place just gets better and better.
Stay safe,
RJ.
Gentleman 100
03-18-17, 19:40
I saw her a few years ago at her small single-story house. There was no mutual touching, and about a gallon of baby oil used (I actually slid around). She interviewed me for about 10 minutes ahead of time. The massage itself was okay, but the HE-like finish was not special (she rubbed around the boys to get me off). She is probably mid-40s, skinny with A cups. She did get nude.
Not worth the price of admission. Not as crazy as our Heathers, but maybe getting close. http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/anahata-is-back-genuine-professional/18698750.
Be safe.
I decided to try out this new place a block off Fairbanks. This is in a house. A cute 30 ish tall Asian woman, I think her name was J, gave me a massage. It was okay, she seem a little nervous. Standard finish for $. 40. I was thinking I would give another try but as I was leaving, across the street a SUV was watching the house. As I got into my car to drive off, I was watching this car and it drove off. Just be careful!
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-excellent-asian-massage-winter-park-new-open-call-now-321-972-9231/18748594
Went to cb and bb awhile back, and got FUCKING CRABS! Yes, I got the worst fucking case of crabs that anybody has ever gotten in the history of the fucking world. I had crabs so bad I made 49.99 selling my extra crabs to Red Lobster.
How fucking stupid do you idiots think I am?
Fucking A, you do realize that you can't fucking hide from me on this site don't you? I have access to all your information on our server. I will fucking find you every fucking time you do this.
The reason I will is because I'm really fucking smart and have serious skills while you guys are fucking idiots and don't understand the difference between a packet and a package.
Fuck you're a bunch of fucking idiots for challenging me like this.
A2
Gentleman 100
03-19-17, 08:27
Went to cb and bb awhile back, and got FUCKING CRABS! Yes, I got the worst fucking case of crabs that anybody has ever gotten in the history of the fucking world. I had crabs so bad I made 49.99 selling my extra crabs to Red Lobster.
How fucking stupid do you idiots think I am?
Fucking A, you do realize that you can't fucking hide from me on this site don't you? I have access to all your information on our server. I will fucking find you every fucking time you do this.
The reason I will is because I'm really fucking smart and have serious skills while you guys are fucking idiots and don't understand the difference between a packet and a package.
Fuck you're a bunch of fucking idiots for challenging me like this.
A2For those who do not know, most system administrators can see the IP address of the PC / Mac / Phone the user is posting from. So the administrator is alleging that a banned member is trying to get back on and using the same PC / Mac / Phone. If this is the case, banned members need to stay banned, because they have violated policy (or similar) and the site needs to be protected.
Of course, no one has actually gotten crabs from our favorite places. The 2 places are my personal favorite, and I have been going there for a long time. They are safe and clean.
Advice to banned members: stay away and do not attempt to post here.
Advice to my fellow mongers: go to your favorite places and report accurately. If you had a great experience, report that. If you had a bad experience, report that too. We all gain from us sharing correct information and do not need this site to be contaminated by shills and other evil-doers.
I hope this posting does not need to be signed, Captain Obvious. Now go out there and have fun (I will be going to BB in a few hours to have safe, clean fun).
Be safe.
Gentleman 100
03-19-17, 08:33
I saw her a few years ago at her small single-story house. There was no mutual touching, and about a gallon of baby oil used (I actually slid around). She interviewed me for about 10 minutes ahead of time. The massage itself was okay, but the HE-like finish was not special (she rubbed around the boys to get me off). She is probably mid-40s, skinny with A cups. She did get nude.
Not worth the price of admission. Not as crazy as our Heathers, but maybe getting close. http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/anahata-is-back-genuine-professional/18698750.
Be safe.I remembered more on my experience. She would not let me touch her at all. She would tell me to focus on the energy in the room. She did not get fully nude, but topless (A- cups).
After I left, she texted me that I shorted her $20. I was driving, but I should have pulled over and told her to focus on the energy on the room for that $20. She texted a minute later saying that I did pay her correctly.
Again, she is not crazy, but you can do so much better at even a marginal AMP or independent.
Stay safe.
TampaBlndBang
03-19-17, 10:07
Just moved to the Orlando area and was hoping to find one of my favorites from over in Tampa who moved here a few months ago.
She went by Hannah in Tampa but don't know if she kept that name.
Anyone seen this hottie around town or on a BP ad?
Thanks.
Went to cb and bb awhile back, and got FUCKING CRABS! Yes, I got the worst fucking case of crabs that anybody has ever gotten in the history of the fucking world. I had crabs so bad I made 49.99 selling my extra crabs to Red Lobster.
How fucking stupid do you idiots think I am?
Fucking A, you do realize that you can't fucking hide from me on this site don't you? I have access to all your information on our server. I will fucking find you every fucking time you do this.
The reason I will is because I'm really fucking smart and have serious skills while you guys are fucking idiots and don't understand the difference between a packet and a package.
Fuck you're a bunch of fucking idiots for challenging me like this.
A2Is this banned member a provider or pissed off hobbyist?
Is this banned member a provider or pissed off hobbyist?This banned member is yet another shill account from CB/BB I told them if they kept using shill accounts I would edit their posts to say they had crabs.
A2
North West Wind
03-19-17, 14:20
I decided to try out this new place a block off Fairbanks. This is in a house. A cute 30 ish tall Asian woman, I think her name was J, gave me a massage. It was okay, she seem a little nervous. Standard finish for $. 40. I was thinking I would give another try but as I was leaving, across the street a SUV was watching the house. As I got into my car to drive off, I was watching this car and it drove off. Just be careful!
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-excellent-asian-massage-winter-park-new-open-call-now-321-972-9231/18748594I visited this place today. Had a pretty decent massage from a very awkward masseuse. On the flip, she wanted me to take care of myself.
I think I'll give them one more shot to see if they get any better before writing them off.
Headed over to Luxsa recently, picked Mulan the smallest one of the lineup. Paid for the hour and got about half service was rushed and mechanical. Tried to get the platinum service on the ad, but she was wearing granny panties she didn't take off because she said she was on the rag. I will not repeat especially because of the kankles, major turnoff.
Miketastic69
03-19-17, 15:41
I remembered more on my experience. She would not let me touch her at all. She would tell me to focus on the energy in the room. She did not get fully nude, but topless (A- cups).
After I left, she texted me that I shorted her $20. I was driving, but I should have pulled over and told her to focus on the energy on the room for that $20. She texted a minute later saying that I did pay her correctly.
Again, she is not crazy, but you can do so much better at even a marginal AMP or independent.
Stay safe.If you don't finish during HJ in 10 minutes she tells you that you need to get up and rebook. Says that you must not be drawing from internal circles and focusing on the cosmic force welled up within me. No, just no.
I saw her a few years ago at her small single-story house. There was no mutual touching, and about a gallon of baby oil used (I actually slid around). She interviewed me for about 10 minutes ahead of time. The massage itself was okay, but the HE-like finish was not special (she rubbed around the boys to get me off). She is probably mid-40s, skinny with A cups. She did get nude.
Not worth the price of admission. Not as crazy as our Heathers, but maybe getting close. http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/anahata-is-back-genuine-professional/18698750.
Be safe.Just thought I would add my two cents worth. I totally understand GM100's review but I had a slightly different experience a few years ago. I personally think she is crazier than some of the Heathers but not in a bad way. She is a hippie chic, she wants to explore why you are there or why you are into the hobby. If you let her she will ask some deep questions. I indulged her some conversation (mine lasted over 20 minutes) then there was some rub but I wouldn't go see her for the massage. She was exploring tantra or edging if you have had a girl do that do you. She tries to bring you to a 7 or 8 on a scale of 10 being ready to blow your nut. At first she brings you up and calms you down. Eventually, if you can last then you blow a crazy load and have a deeper inner orgasm. I have no idea how it works but it is a lot of fun if you surrender to the process. I kept my expectations very low and was surprised to have a good experience. We had some mutual touching but again I think it differs every time. -- Dog.
Just thought I would add my two cents worth. I totally understand GM100's review but I had a slightly different experience a few years ago. I personally think she is crazier than some of the Heathers but not in a bad way. She is a hippie chic, she wants to explore why you are there or why you are into the hobby. If you let her she will ask some deep questions. I indulged her some conversation (mine lasted over 20 minutes) then there was some rub but I wouldn't go see her for the massage. She was exploring tantra or edging if you have had a girl do that do you. She tries to bring you to a 7 or 8 on a scale of 10 being ready to blow your nut. At first she brings you up and calms you down. Eventually, if you can last then you blow a crazy load and have a deeper inner orgasm. I have no idea how it works but it is a lot of fun if you surrender to the process. I kept my expectations very low and was surprised to have a good experience. We had some mutual touching but again I think it differs every time. -- Dog.There is nothing better than an edging blowjob done properly. Finding a girl in this hobby that does that, that takes the time is like riding a unicorn. There was one girl, I forget her name but the was on the northwest side, very young spinner with glasses. Very GFE, very into giving pleasure. I hate to admit this but I shot in my own face, that's how intense the orgasm was.
She disappeared, makes me think it really was a dream.
Went to cb and bb awhile back, and got FUCKING CRABS! Yes, I got the worst fucking case of crabs that anybody has ever gotten in the history of the fucking world. I had crabs so bad I made 49.99 selling my extra crabs to Red Lobster.
How fucking stupid do you idiots think I am?
Fucking A, you do realize that you can't fucking hide from me on this site don't you? I have access to all your information on our server. I will fucking find you every fucking time you do this.
The reason I will is because I'm really fucking smart and have serious skills while you guys are fucking idiots and don't understand the difference between a packet and a package.
Fuck you're a bunch of fucking idiots for challenging me like this.
A2This is utterly hilarious. I get the feeling they're READING from some "I. D. " that's probably not posting, so I'll toss this out as commentary for BB-CB consumption: Just serve the market well (as well as you HAVE been. . . No apparent need for adjustments at the present time), and let all the reporting here, by actual clients, take care of itself! When A2 says he "has skills", just imagine that he can see what you're typing as you type it, and he knows what you're thinking even before THAT, like a Mind-Reader, or something! Also, imagine that, with the press of a keyboard key, he could redirect a ICBM missle from off the coast of North Korea and have it land on the "H" key of your keyboard. While all of that MAY be a (very very) slight stretch, if you just consider it true, you'll be more likely to stay out of trouble.
For those who do not know, most system administrators can see the IP address of the PC / Mac / Phone the user is posting from. So the administrator is alleging that a banned member is trying to get back on and using the same PC / Mac / Phone.What's this, a tutorial on how to skirt detection?! Aside from what is the very easy and most fundamental task to keep track of an IP address, I'm thinkin' A2's "Mad Skills" probably include hacking the webcam on their PC, staring at them while they're typing, and probably copying all of their personal information from the credit card magstrips in their wallet. . . In the other room. . . Behind two concrete walls. . . And in a lead lined safe! Bwuhahahah!
Of course, no one has actually gotten crabs from our favorite places. The 2 places are my personal favorite, and I have been going there for a long time. They are safe and clean.. . . (I will be going to BB in a few hours to have safe, clean fun).And now, of course, A2 will probably be reporting GM100's got crabs! LOL!
Just kidding folks. . . But still, what BB-CB has been up to IS utterly hilarious - at least when they're caught and called out like this.
CostasCarl
03-19-17, 19:37
Okay, now that I am back from my Orlando trip, here is my report on my experiences. I went straight to BB from the airport, Wednesday around 12 noon. Easy to find, parked adjacent to it, went in and a bell rang. Someone from inside told me to wait a little. I sat on the couch in the waiting area and dozed off, must have been very tired from the trip.
In about 5 to 10 minutes a good looking lady, short, small breasts, small frame, early to mid 30's; took me in. She said her name was peaches or poaches. As she took me inside a room, another girl came out and it sounded like they had an argument. The other one was hotter (or maybe the grass is greener).
Discussion inside room,- how long? - 1 hr. I gave her 80 and she left the room. Sitting inside, I could hear amorous noises from adjacent room. Peaches came back and she wanted to get to action. I asked for Table shower. She questioned table shower? - oh. I thought T / S was a given. She went out, returned right away and said that it was occupied. We waited. (Who would have thought Wednesday afternoons get busy?
Less than 5 minutes of waiting. Engaged in casual small talk. She understands very basic English, so small talk was difficult. She asked what I expected. Paid the usu 180 to her. Went in for T / S. It was good. The facilities at BB are better than any I have been to so far but the method and skills were the same. I had my own soap and wash cloth. Then we went to the massage table. Went straight for action. Pretty average, everything covered, I always carry my own raincoats, but she was good enough to make me happy. Felt a little rushed. It seemed they were busy and someone else might have needed the room.
I think I had unrealistic expectations, the girls here are better looking and younger (30's compared with 50's) but experience is pretty much the same. My plan was to try CB the following day but I changed my mind and got an incall to my room instead. (separate review).
There is nothing better than an edging blowjob done properly. Finding a girl in this hobby that does that, that takes the time is like riding a unicorn. There was one girl, I forget her name but the was on the northwest side, very young spinner with glasses. Very GFE, very into giving pleasure. I hate to admit this but I shot in my own face, that's how intense the orgasm was.
She disappeared, makes me think it really was a dream.Can anyone tell me who gives the best edging session in Florida? Don't see many providers offering that experience.
Can anyone tell me who gives the best edging session in Florida? Don't see many providers offering that experience.I echo this man's sentiments. I gave up on the AMP scene because everything is so mechanical and I don't particularly care for massages. The communication barrier doesn't make things any better. I'd love to find an independent provider that specializes in edging. It's a very particular kind of thing and if you need to explain it to a provider, it's usually going to be a let down. C'Mon. Ladies, get on google and start learning!! LOL.
Big Surf.
I'm literally on my way to finally get my first CB experience and came here to find out who is best to request and saw this. I've had a charmed life of fun and adventure but never even heard of this before much less experience and now I must have this and NOW so I will be tipping extra to find out and based on description try to coach past the language barrier. Will update after with details and quality assurance.
Thanks for the education!
DonJulio316
03-20-17, 14:22
Long time lurker here. Never posted before. Think I should share this. BB being busted right now! I was there. Very sad.
Just saw them pull in there in front of me. Good thing I was running 15 minutes behind schedule. Parked a bit up the road to recon and in minutes about a dozen of them all over the place inside and out they had the Staff out up against front wall. Guess my experiment will have to wait for another day.
Gentleman 100
03-20-17, 17:58
Long time lurker here. Never posted before. Think I should share this. BB being busted right now! I was there. Very sad.There is nothing on any of the local media about it. What time were you there? What day? Forum senior members want more info, especially since you never posted before. Thanks.
I see nothing online or TV about it being busted and why would they bust BB before CB when they have been open for what two years know?
There is nothing on any of the local media about it. What time were you there? What day? Forum senior members want more info, especially since you never posted before. Thanks.
Gentleman 100
03-20-17, 19:47
There is nothing on any of the local media about it. What time were you there? What day? Forum senior members want more info, especially since you never posted before. Thanks.Also, I was at Luxsa yesterday, and a OCSD deputy stopped by. It turns out that one of the girls had some baby-daddy drama that needed Uncle LEO's assistance. That was definitely not a bust.
Since you are new to the forum, please make sure what you say you saw is what actually happened. Please provide details.
Thanks, and always be safe.
BuffGuy111
03-20-17, 20:01
Long time lurker here. Never posted before. Think I should share this. BB being busted right now! I was there. Very sad.There are some glamour shots posted of about 3 Asian ladies. You guys who frequent those places should know who they are.
BG111.
There are some glamour shots posted of about 3 Asian ladies. You guys who frequent those places should know who they are.
BG111.I am loathe to contribute to this discussion topic out of concern that I'll only be flaming an ember that may not actually be on fire. But, here goes:
Being a Goodie-Two-Shoes, Straight-As-An-Arrow, Stand-Up guy, as I am, I must admit to being TOTALLY naive regarding where to find such stuff. If you have a link, a pointer, or even a hint where this pictographic evidence exists, it would probably save me an immense amount of time trying to stumble upon it myself. I DID go to the Orange County Sheriff's Office bookings page and tried to look through all booking photos for the last three days and I only found one Asian female taken in for DUI.
EDIT UPDATE: Thanks to Magicman20 (post ABOVE) for the pointer to mugshots. com. I did find 3 Asian females on that page, one taken in for DUI and the other two taken in within 25 minutes of one another (booking times around 3:30pm on March 20), and wearing similar shirts, on prosti-2-tion related offenses. I personally don't recognize either of the two (not that I KNOW all of them) and the older of the two (45 yr) doesn't look like anyone that would typically be found at BB. I'll just wait here on the gossip and see what turns up.
Just saw them pull in there in front of me. Good thing I was running 15 minutes behind schedule. Parked a bit up the road to recon and in minutes about a dozen of them all over the place inside and out they had the Staff out up against front wall. Guess my experiment will have to wait for another day.Ugh, I'm out of town and was planning on doing a 4 hand session once I get back this weekend, never done it before and was getting really excited when I found out that it can be requested. Hoping this isn't true.
There is nothing on any of the local media about it. What time were you there? What day? Forum senior members want more info, especially since you never posted before. Thanks.Around 2-215 ish I turned off mills and immediately my radar pinged something about the SUV in front of me. Also a OCPD marked cruiser on the street engine running but empty. Drove past but cound not confirm by glance passing by so I went down a bit to recon. After about 5 minutes I figured no further action so all clear. As I am about to pull in to go around back the door opens and everyone was less out and lined up against the wall. They came hard and heavy. At least 12 officers mix of bdu swat style, officer and plain clothes. It was to be my first visit too. Bummer.
Called on the the other hot spot and they were all clear and said they had a crew of 5 to choose from so I cruised twice, park and watch for a swhile. Nothing of note so I go in but Once I got there word must have spread as it was a staff of 1 and that was completely flustered and rushing about. With my clean cut and build they were completely on guard. Wouldn't have been a good nights sleep.
I called the numbers for both BB and CB and they're both going straight to the answering machine, highly unusual considering she usually promptly answers the phone. Looking like the rumors are true.
I'm literally on my way to finally get my first CB experience and came here to find out who is best to request and saw this. I've had a charmed life of fun and adventure but never even heard of this before much less experience and now I must have this and NOW so I will be tipping extra to find out and based on description try to coach past the language barrier. Will update after with details and quality assurance.
Thanks for the education!You probably didn't have the best experience today. Only 2 providers, I was rushed out in 15 minutes after waiting about 20.
Magicman20
03-20-17, 20:51
I am loathe to contribute to this discussion topic out of concern that I'll only be flaming an ember that may not actually be on fire. But, here goes:
Being a Goodie-Two-Shoes, Straight-As-An-Arrow, Stand-Up guy, as I am, I must admit to being TOTALLY naive regarding where to find such stuff. If you have a link, a pointer, or even a hint where this pictographic evidence exists, it would probably save me an immense amount of time trying to stumble upon it myself. I DID go to the Orange County Sheriff's Office bookings page and tried to look through all booking photos for the last three days and I only found one Asian female taken in for DUI.http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Orange-County-FL/
Just saw them pull in there in front of me. Good thing I was running 15 minutes behind schedule. Parked a bit up the road to recon and in minutes about a dozen of them all over the place inside and out they had the Staff out up against front wall. Guess my experiment will have to wait for another day.
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Orange-County-FL/After looking at the mug shots. They don't look familiar but I've never been to BB only been to CB. Guess we will have to wait and see tomorrow when people report back if they are open or not. Can't just see only two of them getting busted. As I'm sure there's more than two girls working on any given day.
I am loathe to contribute to this discussion topic out of concern that I'll only be flaming an ember that may not actually be on fire. But, here goes:
Being a Goodie-Two-Shoes, Straight-As-An-Arrow, Stand-Up guy, as I am, I must admit to being TOTALLY naive regarding where to find such stuff. If you have a link, a pointer, or even a hint where this pictographic evidence exists, it would probably save me an immense amount of time trying to stumble upon it myself. I DID go to the Orange County Sheriff's Office bookings page and tried to look through all booking photos for the last three days and I only found one Asian female taken in for DUI.
EDIT UPDATE: Thanks to Magicman20 (post ABOVE) for the pointer to mugshots. com. I did find 3 Asian females on that page, one taken in for DUI and the other two taken in within 25 minutes of one another (booking times around 3:30pm on March 20), and wearing similar shirts, on prosti-2-tion related offenses. I personally don't recognize either of the two (not that I KNOW all of them) and the older of the two (45 yr) doesn't look like anyone that would typically be found at BB. I'll just wait here on the gossip and see what turns up.One of them looks an awful lot like Roxy from CB.
DonJulio316
03-20-17, 23:45
There is nothing on any of the local media about it. What time were you there? What day? Forum senior members want more info, especially since you never posted before. Thanks.I was there at around 1. Just pay my 80 for an hr massage. Laud down and boom. Sheriff officer open the door. Today. Very surreal!
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Orange-County-FL/Should be interesting to see / hear more. BB posted an ad on Backpage about 10 minutes ago (11:30 pm) -- I just don't know if those can be scheduled or not. Let's see if we can get facts, not rumors.
Stay safe.
Bo.
DonJulio316
03-21-17, 00:07
http://mugshots.com/US-Counties/Florida/Orange-County-FL/Look again. One of them is there. Booked at 3 pm today.
DonJulio316
03-21-17, 01:05
Should be interesting to see / hear more. BB posted an ad on Backpage about 10 minutes ago (11:30 pm) -- I just don't know if those can be scheduled or not. Let's see if we can get facts, not rumors.
Stay safe.
Bo.Look through the mugshots. There are three there booked at about 3:30 PM. Look at the charges. I am telling you. I was there. Down 80 bucks and no massage. A huge scare and very sad seeing those girls go through that.
DonJulio316
03-21-17, 01:08
One of them looks an awful lot like Roxy from CB.One of them was a BB masseuse. I am Certain.
Just moved to the Orlando area and was hoping to find one of my favorites from over in Tampa who moved here a few months ago.
She went by Hannah in Tampa but don't know if she kept that name.
Anyone seen this hottie around town or on a BP ad?
Thanks.Used to go by Paige at Luxsa. She is no longer working there.
Never would have guessed their ages. Not 20's as many claimed, ages given are shown as 34,45, 49.
They still looked Damn good for any age.
Gentleman 100
03-21-17, 07:25
I was there at around 1. Just pay my 80 for an hr massage. Laud down and boom. Sheriff officer open the door. Today. Very surreal!I still cannot find any reporting of it on any of our local news media (all TV channels and newspaper). Assuming it was raided, it was quite possibly a competitor that initiated it (remember the recent license check they had, which they passed). It sounds like clients were not hassled, since you did not mention it. Keep in mind, that an arrest does not mean a conviction. The ladies at both of my favorites are careful. Most likely the charges will be dropped. Uncle LEO usually piles on charges to see if the lady will talk (reminds me of a great scene in Black Mass: https://youtu.be/63PW9RrwOYQ). If she says nothing, they got no case. End of story.
Moving forward, I cannot think of any reason to avoid going to my favorite places. The girls are very beautiful. Clients are safe. They are probably back to business as usual today. I will probably stop by tomorrow for another session. I am the ultimate in being careful at these places. If I say it is safe to go, you can take that to the bank.
As always, friends, be safe.
TheeeGentleman
03-21-17, 08:06
I'm a long time monger who has been out of the AMP scene for about a year. I've been landing many women for free off the dating sites (not really, we all pay one way or another). It's amazing to see what has happened to prices in the last year or so. Used to be we paid $60 or $80 for an hour, and $100 would get you the VIP package. Now I'm seeing $80 plus $160 to $200. Supply and demand rules the market unless stupidity takes over. What's up? Too many mongers, too few AMP's, or rich tourists spoiling the kitty?
I saw Roxy on Saturday for a great session. I would have thought she was early 30's. Damn she looked good, I would never imagine she was 49.
Never would have guessed their ages. Not 20's as many claimed, ages given are shown as 34,45, 49.
They still looked Damn good for any age.
I remember mentioning this and a2 deleted a comment apparently made by cb management, I knew they weren't in their 20's none of them, just by looking at them one should be able to tell but sometimes wanting to dream makes us ignore those things.
Never would have guessed their ages. Not 20's as many claimed, ages given are shown as 34,45, 49.
They still looked Damn good for any age.
She picked up but wasn't as friendly as usual and seemed very nervous and cautious to speak. I mentioned I was just calling to see if they were open today because I heard rumors of stuff that happened yesterday, she said yes everything is fine, that everything is up and running as usual today but when I asked who's working today, she gave a long uncomfortable pause before cautiously saying "just come on in, we have plenty of girls available right now". I asked how many and she very hesitantly said just two right now. Asked if Diamond is still there and she said yes.
DonJulio316
03-21-17, 11:04
I still cannot find any reporting of it on any of our local news media (all TV channels and newspaper). Assuming it was raided, it was quite possibly a competitor that initiated it (remember the recent license check they had, which they passed). It sounds like clients were not hassled, since you did not mention it. Keep in mind, that an arrest does not mean a conviction. The ladies at both of my favorites are careful. Most likely the charges will be dropped. Uncle LEO usually piles on charges to see if the lady will talk (reminds me of a great scene in Black Mass: https://youtu.be/63PW9RrwOYQ). If she says nothing, they got no case. End of story.
Moving forward, I cannot think of any reason to avoid going to my favorite places. The girls are very beautiful. Clients are safe. They are probably back to business as usual today. I will probably stop by tomorrow for another session. I am the ultimate in being careful at these places. If I say it is safe to go, you can take that to the bank.
As always, friends, be safe.You are right. We were not hassled. They told us to get dressed and Go out to the lobby. They called in our names to make sure none of the clients had warrants I guess and they told us to leave. But they were very harsh with the girls. They mentioned they were executing a search warrant. They also mention immigration papers. As they were going through their I'd's while we were waiting to be cut loose, I could hear that most of their I'd's were from California. I tell you man they must have a code word or something because she was about to start the massage put some cream on my back. Stooped for a second walked quickly to the door threw a towel over me opened the door and boom they were at the door. She knew something bad was going on before peeking out, yet I did not hear or perceived anything.
Never would have guessed their ages. Not 20's as many claimed, ages given are shown as 34,45, 49.
They still looked Damn good for any age.That last statement is a good point to drill down upon. Age is just a number. When we say that a girl "looked mid-20's", we all have a mental image of what that is, and we generally mean that phrase to speak to level of "hotness". . . Which has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with the date on which she made an exit from her mother's uterus. To focus on that otherwise arbitrary date (as opposed to her actual level of perceived "hotness") is like focusing on whether that uteral exit was vaginal or by cesarian section! THAT REALLY DOESN'T HAVE A BEARING ON WHAT WE WILL EXPERIENCE WITH HER!
So, I think it's actually pointless to debate the ACTUAL age of the girls we're seeing and MORE helpful and informative for us to describe how they "look", and if they "look" like mid-20's then we all know what to expect, based on our collective mental image of such a girl! If anything, a girl that LOOKS like she's 25 years old, but has the experience and SKILL of someone with 49 years under her belt (and maybe over 30 years mastering the arts of sensual stimulation), may actually be the IDEAL combination of qualities we're all looking for.
From now on I am making a mental note to phrase my reports accordingly, and will try to keep wording along the lines of "she has the looks of a 25 year old", without actually speculating on real chronological age. Any other typically "age related" features, such as "tightness" of the canal, or "firmness" and "perkiness" of the chest or rear-end, usually get separately described anyway (or they SHOULD).
Gentleman 100
03-21-17, 12:07
She picked up but wasn't as friendly as usual and seemed very nervous and cautious to speak. I mentioned I was just calling to see if they were open today because I heard rumors of stuff that happened yesterday, she said yes everything is fine, that everything is up and running as usual today but when I asked who's working today, she gave a long uncomfortable pause before cautiously saying "just come on in, we have plenty of girls available right now". I asked how many and she very hesitantly said just two right now. Asked if Diamond is still there and she said yes.I called BB. The normal manager is on vacation (maybe bad timing) and her backup is handling the calls. All seems normal.
Never would have guessed their ages. Not 20's as many claimed, ages given are shown as 34,45, 49.
They still looked Damn good for any age.If you've been going to an AMP long enough, you can tell by just looking at their faces. Many mongers have tried to point this out in the past but it only led to arguments about age. I wish there was a separate thread for BB / CB (tier 1, LOL). It'll make it easier to sieve through the noise when looking for other options.
I called BB. The normal manager is on vacation (maybe bad timing) and her backup is handling the calls. All seems normal.Definitely bad timing I guess, the same woman who always picks up was the one I spoke with this morning (called around 9:30 ish). Could just be busy handling the situation regarding the 3 that were booked yesterday, and has her backup taking calls now.
Why would one go see this lady at this place for $120.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-5-star-experience-licensed-massage-therapist-maitland/9458471
When you can see her at this place for $65?.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/great-experienced-staff-real-therapists/6274789
Why would one go see this lady at this place for $120.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-5-star-experience-licensed-massage-therapist-maitland/9458471
When you can see her at this place for $65?.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/great-experienced-staff-real-therapists/6274789Why go to either for that matter.
Why would one go see this lady at this place for $120.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/a-5-star-experience-licensed-massage-therapist-maitland/9458471
When you can see her at this place for $65?.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/great-experienced-staff-real-therapists/6274789Looks like her ad from Jenna's place has been taken down now and she has moved over to WP studio. Any positive experiences with her?
CrazyHorse666
03-21-17, 16:54
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/women-used-massage-parlor-as-front-for-prostitution-mbi-says
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/women-used-massage-parlor-as-front-for-prostitution-mbi-saysI wonder what website they are referring to? There are multiple to choose from.
Magicman20
03-21-17, 17:20
Watching the coverage they also mentioned another place but no name on Bumby wow! Becareful fellas.
Watching the coverage they also mentioned another place but no name on Bumby wow! Becareful fellas.That's what shocked me. If there owned by the same person, why weren't they both done on the same day?
No surprise guys. Way too much chatter about this place.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/women-used-massage-parlor-as-front-for-prostitution-mbi-says
Gentleman 100
03-21-17, 17:42
Watching the coverage they also mentioned another place but no name on Bumby wow! Becareful fellas.Reminder: only the therapists were taken into custody. Not the clients (us mongers).
I think their services will remain, but they will need to be more discreet (maybe even start wearing scrubs: with some lingerie underneath). Be safe.
Reminder: only the therapists were taken into custody. Not the clients (us mongers).
I think their services will remain, but they will need to be more discreet (maybe even start wearing scrubs: with some lingerie underneath). Be safe.I'm willing to bet they are going to be legit from now on. Maybe be lucky enough to get a handshake.
No surprise guys. Way too much chatter about this place.Reading the article, I note that the website 'chatter' was not what led LE to the location. Rather is was the 'tattle' of a proactive report, or complaint, directly to a tipster-hotline type of thing from a complainant that was actually a visitor and offered first hand observations (reportedly). The remarks about the fact that "Agents found a website. . . " have nothing to do with actual probable cause, nor will anything gleaned from that website be admissible anywhere other than media reports. All for the purpose of quieting down that 'chatter' (if you ask me).
If any competitor, or other nefarious person, is seeking to create problems for the place, whatever would be learned from website reports could possibly contribute to a fictional fabric built for those purposes. Otherwise, seeking to reduce reporting runs counter to the purpose of the board. . . In my humble opinion.
Miketastic69
03-21-17, 20:06
I'm willing to bet they are going to be legit from now on. Maybe be lucky enough to get a handshake.The girls are OK. Must have been a scary experience. This event is the ultimate taking one for the team! Glad to see two bonded out. Hope the third is in the wind soon. I will be back no matter what.
BoredFlGuy
03-21-17, 20:47
Going to have to come up with a secret knock and code word, like they did back in the day at the speakeasies. Like there isn't bigger problems in Orlando they need to be working on. I guess its a whole lot easier to bust these places than the other issues.
Maybe if the competition offered better services they wouldn't have to resort to tattling, I'm not going to say it was another AMP that reported them, but if it was I think I've got a good idea of which one.
Gentleman 100
03-21-17, 21:56
I feel the need to point out that Uncle LEO benefits from the news media stories of rumors. In all likelihood, the therapists will not be charged and are now fully lawyered up. Uncle Leo knows they don't have a case unless the therapists talk and give them the evidence they don't have. They are using fraudulent (but legal) tactics to get evidence. Uncle Leo can lie, cheat, and be deceptive. The news media is their willing accomplice (sort of like the Vichy French to the Nazis: look it up). Uncle Leo throws in all sorts of charges with no proof, with the sole intent of getting the victim to talk or admit to some charges.
Anyone can be charged with a crime. Proving it is what matters. No proof = charges dropped. Here is some very good information to know about your rights (printable info available): https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-youre-stopped-police-immigration-agents-or-fbi.
If the girls were not being careful, they will probably be replaced with those that are more discreet. Everyone gets pinched, but not everyone gets convicted. The services they previously offered will still be there.
The girls will be fine, BB will be fine, and we all can move along with our lives and have fun at our favorite places. Naturally, this is my learned, experienced, and humble opinion.
Be safe.
I feel the need to point out that Uncle LEO benefits from the news media stories of rumors. In all likelihood, the therapists will not be charged and are now fully lawyered up. Uncle Leo knows they don't have a case unless the therapists talk and give them the evidence they don't have. They are using fraudulent (but legal) tactics to get evidence. Uncle Leo can lie, cheat, and be deceptive. The news media is their willing accomplice (sort of like the Vichy French to the Nazis: look it up). Uncle Leo throws in all sorts of charges with no proof, with the sole intent of getting the victim to talk or admit to some charges.
Anyone can be charged with a crime. Proving it is what matters. No proof = charges dropped. Here is some very good information to know about your rights (printable info available): https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-youre-stopped-police-immigration-agents-or-fbi.
If the girls were not being careful, they will probably be replaced with those that are more discreet. Everyone gets pinched, but not everyone gets convicted. The services they previously offered will still be there.
The girls will be fine, BB will be fine, and we all can move along with our lives and have fun at our favorite places. Naturally, this is my learned, experienced, and humble opinion.
Be safe.This is very true. The ace for LEO according to the article they are not licensed. This is a felony charge in Florida. Prostitution usually is not but they can try to use the RICO act to go after the owners!
Been talking to owners I know across the state and I've brought up this topic before but none of the codes or tricks they come up with have convinced me that they could work, I am thinking about coming up with a way to let spas statewide know who the ok mongers are and who aren't without the customers knowing this themselves, if a customer knows then uncle will learn it eventually because we all know there is always that one guy out of the bunch, I've already expressed my ideas to some owners in orange and Osceola county talking to some in Tampa and from there onto Clearwater, I brought some talents from there when I went to see an owner I know and he allowed me to take 2 girls back to my city, pretty neat. Too bad there I no other spa at the moment that can offer what cb and bb did, it's a huge blow to the us more than them IMHO.
Going to have to come up with a secret knock and code word, like they did back in the day at the speakeasies. Like there isn't bigger problems in Orlando they need to be working on. I guess its a whole lot easier to bust these places than the other issues.
Maybe if the competition offered better services they wouldn't have to resort to tattling, I'm not going to say it was another AMP that reported them, but if it was I think I've got a good idea of which one.
ThaiHammer
03-22-17, 08:20
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Member #5521
03-22-17, 09:33
The problem is no matter what code we come up with LEO will always figure it out. They have people that just troll websites all day. Also how can we be sure that a senior member on this site is not LEO they could just post fake reviews to gain trust and then use all are info to find who to bust. Not saying this is true but anything is possible that's the shitty part. I wish there was a way for us to keep LEO out of everything. This is the one reason why I am skeptical on new places and providers. So, everyone just do your research before a visit to keep yourself safe.
Been talking to owners I know across the state and I've brought up this topic before but none of the codes or tricks they come up with have convinced me that they could work, I am thinking about coming up with a way to let spas statewide know who the ok mongers are and who aren't without the customers knowing this themselves, if a customer knows then uncle will learn it eventually because we all know there is always that one guy out of the bunch, I've already expressed my ideas to some owners in orange and Osceola county talking to some in Tampa and from there onto Clearwater, I brought some talents from there when I went to see an owner I know and he allowed me to take 2 girls back to my city, pretty neat. Too bad there I no other spa at the moment that can offer what cb and bb did, it's a huge blow to the us more than them IMHO.
This was bound 2 happen. Whether it was the forum, disgruntled monger, or angry neighbors; it was bound 2 happen. TOO POPULAR. LEO likes 2 scare the top dog; to scare all of us. Thats why I prefer low profile places. Be safe.
USTraveller
03-22-17, 10:47
Lots of tips in the Massage threads on re-assuring providers you're not LEO. Little things you do / say will clue them in. Be safe!
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?2291-AMP-Tips-and-Guidelines
Why go to either for that matter.More curious than anything. Variety is the spice of life.
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/women-used-massage-parlor-as-front-for-prostitution-mbi-saysAs many have already mentioned, LEO is trying to stir the pot with a fishing expedition. Anybody can get charged with anything at any time. Making it stck and getting a conviction is a totally separate deal. Most of the time they do this to see if they will talk.
One charge in particular stood out to me. Is NOT against the law in Florida to get a massage w / o being draped! If a client requests that, then the therapist is not doing anything wrong, therefore can't be changed with that. Florida is a draping optional state.
I am a massage therapist and as such, you have to explain the draping process to your client. It's up to them if they want to use it or not. With that said, most chains, and therapists require draping as their own practice.
Here is the law regarding draping in just in case anyone ever gets caught uncovered on a table. Unless you're caught in the act of FS, they have nothing on you! I didn't include the first 4 because they don't pertain to the topic at hand.
Misconduct and Negligence in the Practice of Massage Therapy. The following acts shall constitute the failure to practice massage therapy with that level of care, skill, and treatment which is recognized by a reasonably prudent similar massage therapist as being acceptable under similar conditions and circumstances:
(5) Failure to appropriately drape a client. Appropriate draping of a client shall include draping of the buttocks and genitalia of all clients, and breasts of female clients, unless the client gives specific informed consent to be undraped.
MT314.
Reading the article, I note that the website 'chatter' was not what led LE to the location. Rather is was the 'tattle' of a proactive report, or complaint, directly to a tipster-hotline type of thing from a complainant that was actually a visitor and offered first hand observations (reportedly). The remarks about the fact that "Agents found a website. . . " have nothing to do with actual probable cause, nor will anything gleaned from that website be admissible anywhere other than media reports. All for the purpose of quieting down that 'chatter' (if you ask me).
If any competitor, or other nefarious person, is seeking to create problems for the place, whatever would be learned from website reports could possibly contribute to a fictional fabric built for those purposes. Otherwise, seeking to reduce reporting runs counter to the purpose of the board. . . In my humble opinion.I couldn't agree more with your post (your other posts are also very reasonable). It is easier to blame the boogeyman rather than accept responsibility for a bad business decision. BB's location was less than ideal and a few patrons pointed this out a while back. The other occupants of the strip aren't stupid, they know what is going on and they did not hide the fact with the way they behaved. I don't buy the idea that a competitor or an undercover LE (pretending to be SM) initiated the investigation. It doesn't make sense to spare the other location if this is an investigation targeting the whole establishment.
Got to visit Holly at her place in Altamonte Springs. Massage table is in the middle of her living room. She answered the door in a sexy short robe and greeted me with LFK. Opted for 30 minute massage at $100 USD. Massage was okay and relaxing enough to catch a quick nap. On flip she was naked. Has a beautiful figure for a MILF. Nice spray tan with bikini lines and beautifully trimmed pussy. She mounted me and slid her pussy on my Johnson without penetration. She was definitely wet. She then got down and hiked one leg on the table near my head while FIV was performed. She slowly gave a BBBJ while staring at me the entire time. We then transitioned to 69 where she made me explode. DATY was sweet and juicy. I'm thinking it BBBJCIMWS but not sure. I exploded and it felt like it went in her mouth but no mess after we finished. She had fresh towels and offered a shower. Nice hug and LFK on the way out. I will definitely repeat when in the area. I would love to FS this MILF.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/relax-with-the-best-of-the-best/18912293
Went to gikku massage at 1685 Powell St, Longwood, FL 32750 and definately recommend NOT going. Last time I went provider was very unattractive. Today was in the area and said what the hell, I'll try again. Walk in told $80 for an hour. Get a table shower then proceed to get a massage. Said no feet and the girl started out with feet massage on my back. Ok no biggie. Massage continues. On the flip I start to massage her ass she says $100 to touch, I said hmm do clothes come off? Anything else? She said NO. I said thanks but no thanks. Then I told her I would do 60.00. Paid 60 for standar he. Not worth it and was far below average. Recommend not going.
AnonymousMongr
03-22-17, 17:21
I couldn't agree more with your post (your other posts are also very reasonable). It is easier to blame the boogeyman rather than accept responsibility for a bad business decision. BB's location was less than ideal and a few patrons pointed this out a while back. The other occupants of the strip aren't stupid, they know what is going on and they did not hide the fact with the way they behaved. I don't buy the idea that a competitor or an undercover LE (pretending to be SM) initiated the investigation. It doesn't make sense to spare the other location if this is an investigation targeting the whole establishment.I believe its probably the Prep school / church right across the street. I'm sure the "Massage Parlor" issue came up quite a bit during PTA meetings. Sorry but that is just plain DUMB to open that location so close to a school. LE will keep hounding them until they close up shop.
Gentleman 100
03-22-17, 17:27
I couldn't agree more with your post (your other posts are also very reasonable). It is easier to blame the boogeyman rather than accept responsibility for a bad business decision. BB's location was less than ideal and a few patrons pointed this out a while back. The other occupants of the strip aren't stupid, they know what is going on and they did not hide the fact with the way they behaved. I don't buy the idea that a competitor or an undercover LE (pretending to be SM) initiated the investigation. It doesn't make sense to spare the other location if this is an investigation targeting the whole establishment.It may be the neighbors, it may also be a competitor tattling (or both). I like the location of BB. Quiet street and good dim sum next door. I don't think we will every fully know the truth about who initiated the investigation, because I predict all charges will be dropped for lack of evidence.
I think this story has played itself out, and we can get back to our hobby again. Be safe everyone.
Reading the article, I note that the website 'chatter' was not what led LE to the location. Rather is was the 'tattle' of a proactive report, or complaint, directly to a tipster-hotline type of thing from a complainant that was actually a visitor and offered first hand observations (reportedly). The remarks about the fact that "Agents found a website. . . " have nothing to do with actual probable cause, nor will anything gleaned from that website be admissible anywhere other than media reports. All for the purpose of quieting down that 'chatter' (if you ask me).
If any competitor, or other nefarious person, is seeking to create problems for the place, whatever would be learned from website reports could possibly contribute to a fictional fabric built for those purposes. Otherwise, seeking to reduce reporting runs counter to the purpose of the board. . . In my humble opinion.The video on that link says MBI mentioned that men were talking online about getting full service from there. That said, I agree with poster who said it had more to do with the location.
BoredFlGuy
03-22-17, 19:23
Been talking to owners I know across the state and I've brought up this topic before but none of the codes or tricks they come up with have convinced me that they could work, I am thinking about coming up with a way to let spas statewide know who the ok mongers are and who aren't without the customers knowing this themselves, if a customer knows then uncle will learn it eventually because we all know there is always that one guy out of the bunch, I've already expressed my ideas to some owners in orange and Osceola county talking to some in Tampa and from there onto Clearwater, I brought some talents from there when I went to see an owner I know and he allowed me to take 2 girls back to my city, pretty neat. Too bad there I no other spa at the moment that can offer what cb and bb did, it's a huge blow to the us more than them IMHO.Great point!
If owners weren't so "money hungry" they could work together which is something that rarely happens and I've literally witnessed a huge argument between 5 girls just 4 days ago telling each other "something bad is going to happen to you"just wait and see what you get", "we're going to call the police". The party was 1 vs2 vs2 and I was with 2 of them after everything was done they translated, during the fight the other girls were asking why are your girls threatening us, so that idea I have about linking statewide spas isn't as simple as someone might think and I need to talk only to certain owners at first then move onto the next ones.
Permanently shut down according to Google Maps anyway. I can't drive by to confirm in person since I don't get in town until Friday.
Miketastic69
03-22-17, 22:28
I believe its probably the Prep school / church right across the street. I'm sure the "Massage Parlor" issue came up quite a bit during PTA meetings. Sorry but that is just plain DUMB to open that location so close to a school. LE will keep hounding them until they close up shop.Girls scouts of America is right down the street as well. I posted a few months back about a soccer mom yelling at me through the fence near CVS asking me what goes on in there. Do I believe she made a phone call or two? No. Do I believe other places ratted them out? Maybe. Coke and Pepsi coexist, so does Home Depot and lowes (Chrysler and ford). These places about coexist because it makes everything better for all.
I feel the need to point out that Uncle LEO benefits from the news media stories of rumors. In all likelihood, the therapists will not be charged and are now fully lawyered up. Uncle Leo knows they don't have a case unless the therapists talk and give them the evidence they don't have. They are using fraudulent (but legal) tactics to get evidence. Uncle Leo can lie, cheat, and be deceptive. The news media is their willing accomplice (sort of like the Vichy French to the Nazis: look it up). Uncle Leo throws in all sorts of charges with no proof, with the sole intent of getting the victim to talk or admit to some charges.
Anyone can be charged with a crime. Proving it is what matters. No proof = charges dropped. Here is some very good information to know about your rights (printable info available): https://www.aclu.org/know-your-rights/what-do-if-youre-stopped-police-immigration-agents-or-fbi.
If the girls were not being careful, they will probably be replaced with those that are more discreet. Everyone gets pinched, but not everyone gets convicted. The services they previously offered will still be there.
The girls will be fine, BB will be fine, and we all can move along with our lives and have fun at our favorite places. Naturally, this is my learned, experienced, and humble opinion.
Be safe.G, well said. To follow up on your message to us all, I stopped by today. The lady answering the door was friendly and wore more clothing than I was used to, but I was polite, pleasant, and then recognized as a frequent flyer. While they are very obviously more careful than before, all was well, and I dreamed a wonderful dream.
Be polite to our ladies, and be safe.
Bo.
Miketastic69
03-22-17, 22:32
Been talking to owners I know across the state and I've brought up this topic before but none of the codes or tricks they come up with have convinced me that they could work, I am thinking about coming up with a way to let spas statewide know who the ok mongers are and who aren't without the customers knowing this themselves, if a customer knows then uncle will learn it eventually because we all know there is always that one guy out of the bunch, I've already expressed my ideas to some owners in orange and Osceola county talking to some in Tampa and from there onto Clearwater, I brought some talents from there when I went to see an owner I know and he allowed me to take 2 girls back to my city, pretty neat. Too bad there I no other spa at the moment that can offer what cb and bb did, it's a huge blow to the us more than them IMHO.Way back in the day spas had frequent flyer cards. When they got raided the cops now had cards they took from mongers that show you've been to this bawdy place or as Florida law states entered a place of prostitution x number of times (punches).
My neighbors car got broken into the same afternoon MBI hit BB. The suspects are still at large. Glad sexy Asian masseuses are no longer causing a menace. Facetious much?
So there is a new AMP on Gene st.
http://orlando.backpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/grand-opening-excellent-asian-massage-winter-park-new-open-call-now-321-972-9231/18748594
I TOFTT and had a decent experience. This is NOT CB or BB. . 7 for an hour. Tip for HE was. 6 - too much but I did not feel like arguing. Overall price was about what you pay elsewhere b / c the door fee was a little less. I was seen by Lisa. There is another girl Sissy? Who was coming in the door when I left. Neither are gorgeous, but Lisa's massage skills were excellent. They are not ugly either. The HE was a workout for her but she was persistent. . Sometimes that happens. Glad she kept going. She has large mm tits that are nice to play with. Tight workout pants stayed put but I managed some roaming with some effort.
Everything was new and very clean. No table shower yet, but I prefer the stand up anyhow to wash off after.
Lisa is very accommodating and wants to make people happy and is looking for more business. So you may get more for less, or not. As always, YMMV. I will likely repeat and see if it gets better, and see if I can get away with less $ out of my wallet. Harold is right around the corner and that is always a sure bet for a good massage where you will leave happy. All in all these places are fairly comparable.I saw Lisa as well and will likely repeat. Left. 4 for the same ending. She was very nice and although she didn't remove her top / bottoms, she did pull up her shirt / pull down her bra for me as well as pull down her tights a little and allowed some over the undies roaming. She mentioned that there are currently 3 girls atm, but there will be more next time I come. Also, I think one of you all requested her as she cut my hr session short so she could tend to you, promising to massage me longer next time, but you know how that goes. There also seems to be more available if you repeat.
Been talking to owners I know across the state and I've brought up this topic before but none of the codes or tricks they come up with have convinced me that they could work, I am thinking about coming up with a way to let spas statewide know who the ok mongers are and who aren't without the customers knowing this themselves, if a customer knows then uncle will learn it eventually because we all know there is always that one guy out of the bunch, I've already expressed my ideas to some owners in orange and Osceola county talking to some in Tampa and from there onto Clearwater, I brought some talents from there when I went to see an owner I know and he allowed me to take 2 girls back to my city, pretty neat. Too bad there I no other spa at the moment that can offer what cb and bb did, it's a huge blow to the us more than them IMHO.Kalafina, how about digital code? Like RQ or Barcode incripted. Then every 6 months or so they have a new code. I think that would work. The hard part would be to convince other owners. Thanks Geaknow.
None of those could work because they would be in the hands of customers, let me tell you guys something that a "regular" did to a provider. Uncle went in and they took the provider away from the monger, they asked her if she had at any time touched or done anything for him other than a massage, she obviously said no, however when they asked the monger he said yes because they told him he'd be in trouble and his family would find out, etc etc, so they basically scared the answer out of him. Bottom point is she was busted along with other ladies now if this happens to owners it is a big deal and more charges are placed on them, they get scared girls don't want to work for them and they don't want to work inside their spa out of fear, now this next part is something you seasoned brothers might be reluctant to believe but I talk nothing but facts. The Chinese massage community know each other the community is much much smaller than you all think and owners / providers who haven't seen each other even in pictures know each other based on their Chinese name / family name and such I have a few contacts that find information for me that I can corroborate and even when they don't know the person I ask information about when and if they ask someone else or talk to provider themselves, thy recognize the dialect and know which area of China they are from and can find out things like, if are they married, have good credit, previous owner's referral, have they stolen from an owner (there many who have done this), do they have a family here, how many children and siblings they have, if they own a house, if they have a lot of money, one owner / provider shares personal information with a friend and that friend shares is with another etc, thing is everyone knows each other and as hard to believe as it is if your atf has been working all her life in Orange County, she can easily learn who a provider / owner from any cities is by just making a few calls, this has created arguments across cities in Florida and when talent comes from out of state that creates a link that goes cross state and it's just a huge mess, the important part is if there was a code or punch card even an owner could turn that information to LEO so this is more complex than just coming up with a simple way, last night I spoke to another owner in Orange County and she is going to set a list of owners who are "sisters" to her, this is the only way, if an owner has enough dirty with evidence on another they cannot backstab each other without anyone finding out in this small community, I know a lot of providers who are thieves and have stolen thousands and thousands from owners, so basically the owners I'm planning to link would be friends and even if they at some point have a dispute they cannot turn each other in because others would turn said person in out of fear she might backstab them others will do the same so that means either all the ones who I link work together or all go down at the same time and I've been around them enough (1 1/2 years in this hobby) to learn and meet key people I am glad I met 3 specific providers who are no longer working in the biz but are a link to providers, sorry for the long post brothers so I'll finish with a question, for those who were able to visit the old Lussis spa when Eva"Ivy", Judy, Joy worked there. How many of you met the actual owner? I don't mean the one mamasan, those who answer I greatly appreciate it, if you don't want to answer it in the forums send me a PM.
Kalafina, how about digital code? Like RQ or Barcode incripted. Then every 6 months or so they have a new code. I think that would work. The hard part would be to convince other owners. Thanks Geaknow.
Gentleman 100
03-23-17, 07:14
Permanently shut down according to Google Maps anyway. I can't drive by to confirm in person since I don't get in town until Friday.I saw that on Google as well. That happens when someone tells Google that a place is closed. Talk about cat fights. This sounds like a competitor telling Google so we don't go back there. You can submit a report to Google by clicking on the red "closed" banner and telling them it is open.
Be safe and have fun.
I saw that on Google as well. That happens when someone tells Google that a place is closed. Talk about cat fights. This sounds like a competitor telling Google so we don't go back there. You can submit a report to Google by clicking on the red "closed" banner and telling them it is open.
Be safe and have fun.I can confirm that Bora Bora is NOT closed. I was there yesterday.
Bo.
Miketastic69
03-23-17, 12:26
None of those could work because they would be in the hands of customers, let me tell you guys something that a "regular" did to a provider. Uncle went in and they took the provider away from the monger, they asked her if she had at any time touched or done anything for him other than a massage, she obviously said no, however when they asked the monger he said yes because they told him he'd be in trouble and his family would find out, etc etc, so they basically scared the answer out of him. Bottom point is she was busted along with other ladies now if this happens to owners it is a big deal and more charges are placed on them, they get scared girls don't want to work for them and they don't want to work inside their spa out of fear, now this next part is something you seasoned brothers might be reluctant to believe but I talk nothing but facts. The Chinese massage community know each other the community is much much smaller than you all think and owners / providers who haven't seen each other even in pictures know each other based on their Chinese name / family name and such I have a few contacts that find information for me that I can corroborate and even when they don't know the person I ask information about when and if they ask someone else or talk to provider themselves, thy recognize the dialect and know which area of China they are from and can find out things like, if are they married, have good credit, previous owner's referral, have they stolen from an owner (there many who have done this), do they have a family here, how many children and siblings they have, if they own a house, if they have a lot of money, one owner / provider shares personal information with a friend and that friend shares is with another etc, thing is everyone knows each other and as hard to believe as it is if your atf has been working all her life in Orange County, she can easily learn who a provider / owner from any cities is by just making a few calls, this has created arguments across cities in Florida and when talent comes from out of state that creates a link that goes cross state and it's just a huge mess, the important part is if there was a code or punch card even an owner could turn that information to LEO so this is more complex than just coming up with a simple way, last night I spoke to another owner in Orange County and she is going to set a list of owners who are "sisters" to her, this is the only way, if an owner has enough dirty with evidence on another they cannot backstab each other without anyone finding out in this small community, I know a lot of providers who are thieves and have stolen thousands and thousands from owners, so basically the owners I'm planning to link would be friends and even if they at some point have a dispute they cannot turn each other in because others would turn said person in out of fear she might backstab them others will do the same so that means either all the ones who I link work together or all go down at the same time and I've been around them enough (1 1/2 years in this hobby) to learn and meet key people I am glad I met 3 specific providers who are no longer working in the biz but are a link to providers, sorry for the long post brothers so I'll finish with a question, for those who were able to visit the old Lussis spa when Eva"Ivy", Judy, Joy worked there. How many of you met the actual owner? I don't mean the one mamasan, those who answer I greatly appreciate it, if you don't want to answer it in the forums send me a PM.If the monger talks it's a game changer. They now have a non LEO witness that something actually took place. And they can lie to you and say your face is going to be in the 5 o'clock news if you don't say something. Most people will be scared to have their reputation tarnished for their friends and family and employers to see.
So I contacted her via text and no response. My experience is that she generally responds no more than a few hours later. I asked her if she left the business after she left Luxsa and she said no. Maybe this time is different? Anyone with the facts care to share?
GutterMind4
03-23-17, 15:42
Visiting for a couple of days and, although I've rtff, I'd like a couple of definite on a theropist with a big fake rack and FS. BB and CB will be first stop and I've tried Luxsa before but didn't think that was on the menu back then. Please PM any info, thanks.
So I contacted her via text and no response. My experience is that she generally responds no more than a few hours later. I asked her if she left the business after she left Luxsa and she said no. Maybe this time is different? Anyone with the facts care to share?I also would love to know. As I just tried to reach out to her two days ago, with no answer as well. I'm too assume she is retired. Sad tho seems like I lost another ATF.
Gentleman 100
03-23-17, 19:22
So I contacted her via text and no response. My experience is that she generally responds no more than a few hours later. I asked her if she left the business after she left Luxsa and she said no. Maybe this time is different? Anyone with the facts care to share?Alas, sadly, it's true. She has retired. I heard a rumor she is moving away too.
Alas, sadly, it's true. She has retired. I heard a rumor she is moving away too.So who do we turn to for an independen fbsm that isn't an aamp in the Orlando area? If you guys don't mind a trek to Daytona, Renee out there is excellent. Great massage, great conversation, great appearance. Her body type isn't top heavy like Avalon if you are finicky about that. But as far as Orlando, any recommendations?
I met Nikki from Tara's place but unfortunately got assigned to Laura. Nikki would seem like a good candidate to pick up the mantle.
Gentleman 100
03-23-17, 22:34
So who do we turn to for an independen fbsm that isn't an aamp in the Orlando area? If you guys don't mind a trek to Daytona, Renee out there is excellent. Great massage, great conversation, great appearance. Her body type isn't top heavy like Avalon if you are finicky about that. But as far as Orlando, any recommendations?
I met Nikki from Tara's place but unfortunately got assigned to Laura. Nikki would seem like a good candidate to pick up the mantle.If you don't want the AMP experience, try Luxsa. Raquel is a blonde, Southern belle. Selena has a perfect Latina body with great attitude (nice enhancements). Sabrina Skyy is also a great looking Latina (she reminds me of a younger Sofia Vergara). They get new girls all the time, so I would say try Luxsa for an almost-independent-like FBSM experience.
And some of you thought I was a shill for CB and BB. Have safe, clean fun.
LovesToDream13
03-24-17, 08:28
http://orlando.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/latina-princess-for-body-rubs/18637774 does anyone have any info on this girl thanks brothers.
So I contacted her via text and no response. My experience is that she generally responds no more than a few hours later. I asked her if she left the business after she left Luxsa and she said no. Maybe this time is different? Anyone with the facts care to share?I had sent her a text after the first of the year, a few weeks later she responded who is this saying she lost her phone. We texted back and forth a few times, she said she was OK and text her later that week. I did and never heard back. I know she was going thru personal and family drama before Thanksgiving. Miss her sweet ass among other things and wish her well.
http://orlando.backpage.com/WomenSeekMen/latina-princess-for-body-rubs/18637774 does anyone have any info on this girl thanks brothers.Seen her ad before and was looking to try yet Google her number and you will find a few reviews that state she is pretty, some light screening plus doesn't like to remove her top. Also says CBJ and FS but also somewhat rushed. Seems she is real with no uncles named LEO, report if you try, for me I'll have to pass at this time.
If you don't want the AMP experience, try Luxsa. Raquel is a blonde, Southern belle. Selena has a perfect Latina body with great attitude (nice enhancements). Sabrina Skyy is also a great looking Latina (she reminds me of a younger Sofia Vergara). They get new girls all the time, so I would say try Luxsa for an almost-independent-like FBSM experience.
And some of you thought I was a shill for CB and BB. Have safe, clean fun.I would go there. But those FS prices going from 250 to 450. On top of house fee. Thanks but no thanks! Man I really miss Avalon, I wish her the best.
C Fombarlet
03-24-17, 13:26
I saw Sabrina Skyy (aka Skyy at Luxsa) last night. She's very hot and a real delight. Wonderful breasts, nice skin, pretty face and outrageous hair. She is playful and sensual. Not Latina as I'd guessed, but a more exotic mix of several ethnicities. I'd recommend her highly. You can also easily find information about her by doing a search as others suggested in another thread.
Chrisitian.
So who do we turn to for an independen fbsm that isn't an aamp in the Orlando area? If you guys don't mind a trek to Daytona, Renee out there is excellent. Great massage, great conversation, great appearance. Her body type isn't top heavy like Avalon if you are finicky about that. But as far as Orlando, any recommendations?
I met Nikki from Tara's place but unfortunately got assigned to Laura. Nikki would seem like a good candidate to pick up the mantle.How was Laura? They moved locations right?
Gentleman 100
03-24-17, 19:25
I would go there. But those FS prices going from 250 to 450. On top of house fee. Thanks but no thanks! Man I really miss Avalon, I wish her the best.I would still go there and -->negotiate<--. You may be surprised what your favorite therapist might accept for upgraded services. Be safe.
CB time with Yuki. Awesome experience. Standard for the Hr, this place still delivers quality and awesome atmosphere.
PhotoMan343
03-25-17, 09:27
I would still go there and -->negotiate<--. You may be surprised what your favorite therapist might accept for upgraded services. Be safe.Why would any one pay these prices? There is for better for less.
If we all stay away maybe they will get the idea?
Be safe.
Overthepond13
03-25-17, 14:27
Spotted the CL ad for "Shoshana" a while ago and didn't pursue due to lack of reviews and good pics. But then I made the connection to Venus of former Deltona fame and realized it's the same person (or at least I think it is). So I made an appointment and headed to Winter Park for an hour. She guided me to her house using a 2 call system and was waiting outside. She appeared as I expected and was wearing a sexy pink tennis type skirt and tight tank top revealing what appears to be a fine set of assets. This is going to be good I thought. Massage was very enjoyable, although to my surprise roaming was not allowed. I began to fear the worst. Massage concluded with a talking to about how how she absolutely does not engage in sensual massage (yeah, right, that's why you have a two call system, dress like that AND have screening) and even if she did it would cost 2. 5. Ah-ha. There seemed to be no budging on this and I was encouraged to get dressed and leave since next appointment was coming up. I'm tempted to try again but probably won't because I'm sure it will end up being too expensive (I. E at least the $2. 0 she always used to advertise). Was still fun.
Magicman20
03-25-17, 14:37
Why would any one pay these prices? There is for better for less.
If we all stay away maybe they will get the idea?
Be safe.My advice would be to lower it or put in the add that prices vary per therapist but $250-450 is robbery you can easily go to cb or bb and go twice for that price LOL!
Also they are pretty the ladies I been going for a long time since it was on colonial back in the day but the price has to change you are better off with a true call girl at that price but again be safe guys don't ever settle I will still go there just not for the FS price have a good weekend my people!
I tried to set up an apt with her.
We agreed upon the day / time.
The day of we talked and verified.
Called her at the agreed upon time and she wad running late, then she called me back and started a heavy screening process and was very nervous about meeting me. Told her if she wasn't comfortable then she should cancel. She agreed and canceled. She was very skiddish.
My advice is to not waste your time with her.
My adice to her is to not advertise on Craigslist as a therapist if you are not one.
Spotted the CL ad for "Shoshana" a while ago and didn't pursue due to lack of reviews and good pics. But then I made the connection to Venus of former Deltona fame and realized it's the same person (or at least I think it is). So I made an appointment and headed to Winter Park for an hour. She guided me to her house using a 2 call system and was waiting outside. She appeared as I expected and was wearing a sexy pink tennis type skirt and tight tank top revealing what appears to be a fine set of assets. This is going to be good I thought. Massage was very enjoyable, although to my surprise roaming was not allowed. I began to fear the worst. Massage concluded with a talking to about how how she absolutely does not engage in sensual massage (yeah, right, that's why you have a two call system, dress like that AND have screening) and even if she did it would cost 2. 5. Ah-ha. There seemed to be no budging on this and I was encouraged to get dressed and leave since next appointment was coming up. I'm tempted to try again but probably won't because I'm sure it will end up being too expensive (I. E at least the $2. 0 she always used to advertise). Was still fun.
Indian River
03-25-17, 18:39
I saw that on Google as well. That happens when someone tells Google that a place is closed. Talk about cat fights. This sounds like a competitor telling Google so we don't go back there. You can submit a report to Google by clicking on the red "closed" banner and telling them it is open.
Be safe and have fun.Just saw the pics of the LMTs arrested at BB. With all the rage of the BB ladies, I am assuming that they are better looking in person then their pictures show. They are not very photogenic.
True Scotsman
03-25-17, 20:27
I would still go there and -->negotiate<--. You may be surprised what your favorite therapist might accept for upgraded services. Be safe.Luxsa. Why would anyone go to there? Getting your money for providing the minimum of service is the only thing on their mind, for less than a good time! Unless you pay more & more!! These girls should take lessons from Mona & the girls at CB, BB on the service they should provide & the $ they should receive. Customer satisfaction should be the first thing on their mind, not how much they can rip you off. After the tease, ! They hope your second brain takes over.
Make a stand guys, stop going till they put customers satisfaction first at sensible prices. You will not be disappointed with CB or BB till Luxsa girls come to their senses. Bamboo in Kissimmee is worth a visit the new younger girl will make sure you leave happy & a very good massage 4 tip nice table shower too, also the older therapist is good I would repeat with both. Oriental on Commodity, been there a few times over the years including 4 times this month whilst on vacation & was ok left happy apart from the last visit a new girl not much English but is keen to get your $ if you leave happy or not, the first time had to up the tip to 6 to get the job done the second time I took the 90 minute option she tugged till it was sore & wanted a 100 to make it better! I said forget it and started to get dressed I was contiplating no tip, but decided on 2. She was not happy but nor was I. We need to start tipping less for a bad service so these girls make sure we leave happy every time as life & money is too short to waste. The other girl I had was happy with the 4 both visits & got the job done.
BoredFlGuy
03-25-17, 20:57
I can confirm that Bora Bora is NOT closed. I was there yesterday.
Bo.I concure and badder, excuse me, better than ever.
TittyManCam
03-25-17, 21:34
New guy here and I've been going to Bora for months now. After hearing the news fro last week I just have one simple question. Are they still open? And if so has anything changed. THis is getting upsetting as I used to go to another provider on Lee road that closed and Bora was the best service since. Providers are everywhere but really good ones are hard to find.
Miketastic69
03-25-17, 21:50
Just saw the pics of the LMTs arrested at BB. With all the rage of the BB ladies, I am assuming that they are better looking in person then their pictures show. They are not very photogenic.Be careful about being judgmental about girls in their worst moments. Every chick I saw at BB was 8 or better. When a cop.
Is taking your pic it must be the worst! So please show some respect. I happen to care dearly for a couple of those effected.
Be nice to the ladies.
I tried going to Bamboo but the parking lot was unusually full for a weekend, plus there was a pickup truck full of young guys hanging out in front of the place blocking the road and then yelling at cars to go around them. Completely uneasy feeling about all that so I headed up the road to give Balance a shot. Was met by a slender woman named Amy. She asked if I had been there before. I said no I usually go to Bamboo but I wanted to see if this place was better. That must have been pretty effective because she spent the rest of our session asking me if I liked her better than Bamboo. This was probably the friendliest AMP provider I have seen in a long time. The table shower was thorough. The massage was decent. On the flip, there was no more massage, just right into the finish. Tip amount was never discussed. She lifted up her dress and I got to suck on some beautiful B's with great nips. She said she couldn't take off her dress because she was the only one working, or something like that, but promised to next time. All in all, great service. . 6 for HH which went closer to 45 minutes. . 6 tip just because I liked her friendliness and I always love the boob time. Only drawback was another one of those tiny tubs they use for the TS. If you're over 6' you're hanging over the edge. Would definitely repeat.I saw her today as well and had a nice dream. Amy has a bob cut, is slim, and I concur with the beautiful b's. She's very friendly and easy to talk to. She also does a some convulsing with her o's and seemed to enjoy the session as much as I did. I would repeat. House + $. 2 for full.
Gentleman 100
03-26-17, 08:15
New guy here and I've been going to Bora for months now. After hearing the news fro last week I just have one simple question. Are they still open? And if so has anything changed. THis is getting upsetting as I used to go to another provider on Lee road that closed and Bora was the best service since. Providers are everywhere but really good ones are hard to find.Bora Bora is definitely open. Same great service. You might find it improved since they want to keep customers coming back.
My general suggestion to ALL first time posters: remember to contribute to the forum. Do NOT just ask questions. You will gain respect and information will be more forthcoming. Go to your favorite places and report on your experiences (good, bad, ugly).
Be safe.
I saw her today as well and had a nice dream. Amy has a bob cut, is slim, and I concur with the beautiful b's. She's very friendly and easy to talk to. She also does a some convulsing with her o's and seemed to enjoy the session as much as I did. I would repeat. House + $. 2 for full.Where is balance massage?, will be in Orlando next week traveling from bradenton, Amy sounds like my kind of girl. Location would be apreciated.
I may have missed it in my reading and forgot to ask last trip. What is the going rate for a 4 hand at CB / BB?
I may have missed it in my reading and forgot to ask last trip. What is the going rate for a 4 hand at CB / BB?I dreamed of doing this two days ago with Yuki and Mona and it was the hottest time of my life. Basically you pay everything the same as you would for a regular session but double. Double house fee and double tip.
Where is balance massage?, will be in Orlando next week traveling from bradenton, Amy sounds like my kind of girl. Location would be apreciated.Search using Kissimmee, FL, you'll find it.
TittyManCam
03-26-17, 15:18
Bora Bora is definitely open. Same great service. You might find it improved since they want to keep customers coming back.
My general suggestion to ALL first time posters: remember to contribute to the forum. Do NOT just ask questions. You will gain respect and information will be more forthcoming. Go to your favorite places and report on your experiences (good, bad, ugly).
Be safe.Thank you and will do. I'll also be going back soon and will report back for sure.
I may have missed it in my reading and forgot to ask last trip. What is the going rate for a 4 hand at CB / BB?Its 240 roses per girl at BB.
Bearable Gains
03-26-17, 17:19
Had no idea of the 5-O recently visited BB. Was there on a recent weekday, and what an experience. Parked in the side under the security camera. Top 3 AMP experiences ever and the service was 5 star. I was led to the room, laid down and fell asleep. What a dream I had. I woke in the dream to being led down a wooded path to a gentle stream where M. A C-girl scrubbed me clean. She ask "you here before". "Not to this location", my reply. 60 dragon teeth was the fee for 30 tics of the clock. Started with a wonderful rub and ended with a special alphabet massage technique. She said she used all letters and from what I can tell, she did. An additional 140 teeth later got me a small bottle of water. This is healing water I was told and would help replenish my energy levels. Now that BB is on the media radar and the 5-O hit list, I have no idea how long this gem will be around. I for one look forward to the next adventure dream at BB. But, the attention gives me great pause. If you are on the fence about this place, don't be. Go! And better sooner than later if they stake the place out. B safe my fellow fantasy seekers.
Heavenly Hands is again providing great service in a pinch, Neesa is back at VIP for those that enjoyed her massage skills, and the business at Balance has apparently picked up so much that I haven't been able to get in during the last two trips to check it out.
I may have missed it in my reading and forgot to ask last trip. What is the going rate for a 4 hand at CB / BB?I have never asked at CB but I have at several other AMP'S and the answer is always the same. DOUBLE!
Search using Kissimmee, FL, you'll find it.Was looking in wrong place, Googled it and found it, will visit next week, hope this chick Amy is still there.
FlyHigher767
03-27-17, 03:16
Well, there you have it.
Many of us who are older and wiser suggested a chill affect would come when they are promoted as the only game in town.
Orlando has lost its Magic for sure.
CB may continue until the next over zealous bunch in town will offer a "tip" to big brother and they will close.
Maybe we need a new language code.
Maybe other AMPs should quit being so horrible.
Or are we the clients the culprit? Or?
Sorry to whine but I am hoping for better ways and days for our magic to again become a Kingdom.
Fly safe.
P.S. Humbly I say..... Too bad you can't fly the world to see how this is such a silly saga.
Sorry but I honestly believe it's the management's fault owners just don't know how to run their business, not just cb bb but many owners not just from nearby cities, we don't need a code we need owners who are trustworthy to open up and share intel between spas but they just talk nicely to each other and backstab when they turn their backs, it'll take time to come up with a strategy that will work, just need time because after hanging with owners outside spas and introducing some with each other a list needs to be made that includes new owners and old ones who are known in the spa community, I already have a list of my own one of the reasons why I hate them having names like Sisi coco yoyo, too many of them when trying to find intel you have to either know their real name or be able to provide their personal info (family related info) to get some solid information, I wrote about this in response to another brother's post, codes will never work as long as a monger knows it because then uncle will inevitably learn it, it has to be a silent one that is linked between spas city and then statewide without customers knowing it ther will always be THAT guy and also someone who will try to find out what this silent code is, that's all I think needs to be said.
Well, there you have it.
Many of us who are older and wiser suggested a chill affect would come when they are promoted as the only game in town.
Orlando has lost its Magic for sure.
CB may continue until the next over zealous bunch in town will offer a "tip" to big brother and they will close.
Maybe we need a new language code.
Maybe other AMPs should quit being so horrible.
Or are we the clients the culprit? Or?
Sorry to whine but I am hoping for better ways and days for our magic to again become a Kingdom.
Fly safe.
P.S. Humbly I say..... Too bad you can't fly the world to see how this is such a silly saga.
I've used this site for a while. I'm mostly a lurker, but have posted a handful of times. I usually don't have any info that hasn't been talked about so I keep my trap shut. I never made it to BB, but I could tell it was good. I did visit CB a few times and was always pleased. To be honest I'm not a fan of having everything on the menu at a massage parlor. For the coin you drop for that you could get a lot more. Just my thoughts cheers everyone.
Gentleman 100
03-27-17, 07:27
Had no idea of the 5-O recently visited BB. Was there on a recent weekday, and what an experience. Parked in the side under the security camera. Top 3 AMP experiences ever and the service was 5 star. I was led to the room, laid down and fell asleep. What a dream I had. I woke in the dream to being led down a wooded path to a gentle stream where M. A C-girl scrubbed me clean. She ask "you here before". "Not to this location", my reply. 60 dragon teeth was the fee for 30 tics of the clock. Started with a wonderful rub and ended with a special alphabet massage technique. She said she used all letters and from what I can tell, she did. An additional 140 teeth later got me a small bottle of water. This is healing water I was told and would help replenish my energy levels. Now that BB is on the media radar and the 5-O hit list, I have no idea how long this gem will be around. I for one look forward to the next adventure dream at BB. But, the attention gives me great pause. If you are on the fence about this place, don't be. Go! And better sooner than later if they stake the place out. B safe my fellow fantasy seekers.Good first posting. Welcome.
In my experience, places that get raided are usually one-and-done. Uncle LEO did what he did and has moved on to something more noteworthy. Only 1 media outlet picked up the story, and that was also one-and-done (no follow up to see that the charges were dropped or anything). Uncle LEO is not watching the place, in a situation like this, they will respond to complaint calls / tips. They don't have the resources to stake out a place that has a very low probability of return (simple economics: go for what does the community / their egos the most: this is not one of them).
Be safe.
Gentleman 100
03-27-17, 07:38
Sorry but I honestly believe it's the management's fault owners just don't know how to run their business, not just cb bb but many owners not just from nearby cities, we don't need a code we need owners who are trustworthy to open up and share intel between spas but they just talk nicely to each other and backstab when they turn their backs, it'll take time to come up with a strategy that will work, just need time because after hanging with owners outside spas and introducing some with each other a list needs to be made that includes new owners and old ones who are known in the spa community, I already have a list of my own one of the reasons why I hate them having names like Sisi coco yoyo, too many of them when trying to find intel you have to either know their real name or be able to provide their personal info (family related info) to get some solid information, I wrote about this in response to another brother's post, codes will never work as long as a monger knows it because then uncle will inevitably learn it, it has to be a silent one that is linked between spas city and then statewide without customers knowing it ther will always be THAT guy and also someone who will try to find out what this silent code is, that's all I think needs to be said.I agree that codes do not work. I am 100% positive that BB was raided ONLY because someone complained. I think it was a competitor (somewhere) that initiated an investigation, but maybe also a neighbor (business, school, or homeowner) dropped a dime on the place.
Feel free to post your experiences without fear of reprisal. What is published here is not admissible in court as evidence. Uncle LEO has to get their own evidence (which, in this case, I think they had no real evidence, but went in just to show that they did something).
It would be great if the owners would get along and share intel with each other, but unfortunately, there are some who have a backward, corrupt mentality. They mistreat or are unfair to their therapists, and do not deserve our money or attention.
CB and BB will always be my favorite AMPs in Central Florida, at least until a better place opens up (competition helps us all).
Be safe.
With the big story last week being BB / CB, I don't want to make any waves but my thoughts here are just a dream. With that said, I had a dream Luxsa opened up the menu and I was able to leave with a smile after visiting Raquel. Sweet demeanor with a sexy southern draw and exudes passion. Woke up short $. 6 but happy.
PhotoMan343
03-27-17, 15:10
Where is balance massage?, will be in Orlando next week traveling from bradenton, Amy sounds like my kind of girl. Location would be apreciated.Went to see Amy today. 2 Detectives in an umarked car sitting in lot right across from door. Watched for a while then left.
Came back an hour later and they were still there talking to another car with two detectives in it as well. I recognized one of them so I know they were LE.
He is a friend of a friend of mine. I will try to get some intel and report back.
Be safe.
With the big story last week being BB / CB, I don't want to make any waves but my thoughts here are just a dream. With that said, I had a dream Luxsa opened up the menu and I was able to leave with a smile after visiting Raquel. Sweet demeanor with a sexy southern draw and exudes passion. Woke up short $. 6 but happy.What's Raquel's body type?
PhotoMan343
03-27-17, 16:59
Saw Gia today at her private gated condo in the Loop area Easy to set up and really nice area.
She looks very much like her pics but I don't think they are all her. She actually looks better.
Best body rub I have gotten in Orlando. Better than Jackie Grey and easier to setup.
More on the menu if she likes you.
Treat her well and you will be pleased.
Yes I agree some owners will not want to do this but I have done owners making a small list of people they can trust because you do not want to have bad reputation in this small massage community, I tried to stop digging around but I can't although I wish I had, my advise for those who want to learn the ins and outs of the biz is that you should try to stay away, you will not like what you'll learn at all, I wish I could go back to just mongering like I used to.
I agree that codes do not work. I am 100% positive that BB was raided ONLY because someone complained. I think it was a competitor (somewhere) that initiated an investigation, but maybe also a neighbor (business, school, or homeowner) dropped a dime on the place.
Feel free to post your experiences without fear of reprisal. What is published here is not admissible in court as evidence. Uncle LEO has to get their own evidence (which, in this case, I think they had no real evidence, but went in just to show that they did something).
It would be great if the owners would get along and share intel with each other, but unfortunately, there are some who have a backward, corrupt mentality. They mistreat or are unfair to their therapists, and do not deserve our money or attention.
CB and BB will always be my favorite AMPs in Central Florida, at least until a better place opens up (competition helps us all).
Be safe.
BarebackOne
03-27-17, 17:13
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