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Doctor Don
05-09-08, 01:30
Never been to a massage parlor, but if there is one that gives service like on this site please let me know. Who says you have to have FS to have fun.

http://www.soapymassage.com/main.html

CoolinUSA
05-09-08, 07:12
Here's my (similar) comparison having just visited both today. There were two of us that sacrificed our bodies for this scientific research:

Remember: YMMV!

Touch of Asia-Kissimmee
Cover: $.9
Hostess: latina
Provider 1: Lilly, older american lady
Provider 2: ? older caribbean/darker skinned lady
Massage: Both excellent
Stress Release: Not offered
Tip: $.2

Assa: I-Drive
Cover: $.9
Hostess: none
Provider 1: middle aged asian lady
Provider 2: could be younger sister of #1
Massage: Typical AMP so-so
Stress Release: offered
Tip $.4

Let's be careful out there!
TOA in Kissimmee:
Just curious, when you say "older" how much older do you think they are, and besides no extras offered, are they good looking or the kind of "you better shut your eyes until they finish so you don't look at her face" type of therapist? You know what I mean.... I always enjoy a good massage even when no extras are offered but I always find a good "compensating factor is the therapist is at least good looking". You know for "fantasy fulfilling purposes" :-)

Bone Yard
05-09-08, 07:31
I'm going to say 50ish. I wouldn't characterize them as good looking, but certainly not the kind that you need to close your eyes for. They're just 'ok', but not fantasy material. Hope that helps.

Let's be careful out there!


TOA in Kissimmee:
Just curious, when you say "older" how much older do you think they are, and besides no extras offered, are they good looking or the kind of "you better shut your eyes until they finish so you don't look at her face" type of therapist? You know what I mean.... I always enjoy a good massage even when no extras are offered but I always find a good "compensating factor is the therapist is at least good looking". You know for "fantasy fulfilling purposes" :-)

Dr Kool
05-09-08, 09:43
TOA in Kissimmee:
Just curious, when you say "older" how much older do you think they are, and besides no extras offered, are they good looking or the kind of "you better shut your eyes until they finish so you don't look at her face" type of therapist? You know what I mean.... I always enjoy a good massage even when no extras are offered but I always find a good "compensating factor is the therapist is at least good looking". You know for "fantasy fulfilling purposes" :-)I visited TOA again earlier this week, and again nothing to brag about. Got the Latina therapist who someone in a previous post called "Pretty Latina" and another compared her to a "Salma Hayek" look alike. I don't think so... Better change your glasses ASAP or stop the day dreaming when you visit these places or post your reports on the forum.

Well I will put it this way either some one really needs glasses or we are drastically far apart on the definition of "Pretty, Good looking, Hot, or any other verb we use to describe a Hot looking Providers".

I will go easy when I say that the Hottest girl in this place is the Latina Hostess / receptionist who does not even offer any massage services and she is about a 5 on looks in my books.

My Provider was the one refered to as older Caribbean who is actually around 35 and from Puerto Rico.

Touch of Asia-Kissimmee
Cover: $.9
Hostess: Latina (Hottest One There)
Provider:Middle Aged Caribbean Provider
Massage: Good (Had Better)
Stress Release: Offered (Good Skills)
Tip: $.40

They have a total of 4 Therapists now Lilly, Jessica, Jenna and new addition Cynthia which I here is very pretty but based on the previous distorted and erroneous descriptions I will wait to see for myself.

Sponge Worthy
05-09-08, 13:02
Assa: I-Drive
Cover: $.9
Hostess: none
Provider 1: middle aged asian lady
Provider 2: could be younger sister of #1
Massage: Typical AMP so-so
Stress Release: offered
Tip $.4

Let's be careful out there!

$130 to get jacked off by an old Asian woman after a so-so massage. That's what I'm getting out of this review. Jesus, things have really gone downhill in this town.

Dr Kool
05-09-08, 15:06
$130 to get jacked off by an old Asian woman after a so-so massage. That's what I'm getting out of this review. Jesus, things have really gone downhill in this town.This is a perfect example of what happens when the primary interest is on the Extras we can get rather than the quality of the massage.

If I am going to pay $90 at the door it better be a "Quality Massage", I will personally take a Quality Massage from a "Hot" looking therapist with no Extras over a So So Massage from a "Grandma" type therapist.

Lets be a little more truthful on our reviews and postings, I visited TOA because there were some positive postings that you get "Quality Massage" there from a Salma Hayek look a-like therapist. Neither turned out to be true, there was a lot to be desired on the massage and even though I got a nice "Hand Job" from the therapist her looks were well below my standards.

Therapists at this place are no greater than a 5 on looks on my chart and the Quality of the Massage is also a 5 or below on my chart which is totally unacceptable for a $90 door fee. (I will exclude Cynthia and give her the benefit of the doubt since she just started and I have not seen her so I will not rate her).

Just in case I may be still considered a Newbie by many cause I don't post much but I am a Senior in this trade who has invested over 15 years in this, I am a Massage Addict and know the difference between a Quality Massage over a Crappy one and I also know the difference between a "Hot" Therapists and one who is not. Believe me when I say my Body always lets me know I have gotten a great massage and it also lets me know when I have gotten a Crappy one.

Stay Safe and visit at your own risk.

DK

TopGun9181
05-09-08, 18:25
Well guys I picked ASSA over TOA the other night and well the massage was good thee girl asian gal was 26 GREAT TS but when we got to the end she said ok TIME UP the problem was she spoke NO ENGLISH so as I stood up she sat next to me I put her hand on MR JOHNSON she played with it for a mind rubbin it and allowed me to rub her ALL OVER for a few extra min but she said I had to go as time was up. I don't know guys I'm not sure if I should take the risk of going next time and not getting a good H. E.

Tipped her. 20 for the reason she did rub him for a few min. Tried to ask her if she does personal massage at my home but like I said VERY BAD ENGLISH. Anyways this was my second trip to a AMP and the first one was offered by the lady. How can I tell the lady I need service without being rude.

Zooman
05-10-08, 07:17
Any reviews of East/West or any others over in Longwood recently. I don't need to RTFF older than a month. I went to E/W and had a great massage but no HE. Did not know if they she was afraid of Uncle Leo or not and I did not push the issue. It was a great massage though. Does E/W have anything else on the menu?

Gentleman 100
05-10-08, 07:38
Well guys I picked ASSA over TOA the other night and well the massage was good thee girl asian gal was 26 GREAT TS but when we got to the end she said ok TIME UP the problem was she spoke NO ENGLISH so as I stood up she sat next to me I put her hand on MR JOHNSON she played with it for a mind rubbin it and allowed me to rub her ALL OVER for a few extra min but she said I had to go as time was up. I don't know guys I'm not sure if I should take the risk of going next time and not getting a good H. E.

Tipped her. 20 for the reason she did rub him for a few min. Tried to ask her if she does personal massage at my home but like I said VERY BAD ENGLISH. Anyways this was my second trip to a AMP and the first one was offered by the lady. How can I tell the lady I need service without being rude.YMMV. I may get the dessert menu on Monday and not get it on Tuesday. It depends upon the therapist, the moon cycle, the mamasan, etc.

Maybe try giving hints after the flip.

Sponge Worthy
05-10-08, 16:20
This is a perfect example of what happens when the primary interest is on the Extras we can get rather than the quality of the massage.


Well, are you familiar with the purpose of this forum? I don't need this message board to know where to get a good massage. It's not that hard to find a good massage and for even less money than the $90 spent at Assa. Besides, the post indicated that it WASN'T a good massage.

So let's not be surprised that people who visit this forum may want an orgasm now and then. Maybe not everyone, maybe not every time, but now and then.

Clinton Bush
05-11-08, 00:09
Well, are you familiar with the purpose of this forum? I don't need this message board to know where to get a good massage. It's not that hard to find a good massage and for even less money than the $90 spent at Assa. Besides, the post indicated that it WASN'T a good massage.

So let's not be surprised that people who visit this forum may want an orgasm now and then. Maybe not everyone, maybe not every time, but now and then.

In general, I have found that as providers become older and less good looking they must pay more attention to their massage skills. Otherwise, why would anyone repeat?

CB

CoolinUSA
05-11-08, 04:29
Any reviews of East/West or any others over in Longwood recently. I don't need to RTFF older than a month. I went to E/W and had a great massage but no HE. Did not know if they she was afraid of Uncle Leo or not and I did not push the issue. It was a great massage though. Does E/W have anything else on the menu?

What the hell is wrong with you, so you don't want to read ha... then you know what... this ain't the place for you.But to answer your question: Record this in your thick skull, E/W=NO Extras get it! In the times I've seen her (and they were a few) never was offered. So are you happy now, what's your next question?
End of story....let's move on
CIU

Exec Talent
05-11-08, 07:01
Well, are you familiar with the purpose of this forum? I don't need this message board to know where to get a good massage. It's not that hard to find a good massage and for even less money than the $90 spent at Assa. Besides, the post indicated that it WASN'T a good massage.

So let's not be surprised that people who visit this forum may want an orgasm now and then. Maybe not everyone, maybe not every time, but now and then.

There is a stated purpose of this forum. And, you are right, that is not to report about the quality of legitimate massages since those do not encompass a sexual act (as defined by the law, not Bill Clinton).

Since I am interested in the quality of the massage, attitude of the massage therapist and not "extras," I guess I have been posting on the wrong forum all this time. Are you aware of any other forums that cater to sharing information about legitimate massage therapists?

Clinton Bush
05-11-08, 09:23
There is a stated purpose of this forum. And, you are right, that is not to report about the quality of legitimate massages since those do not encompass a sexual act (as defined by the law, not Bill Clinton).

Since I am interested in the quality of the massage, attitude of the massage therapist and not "extras," I guess I have been posting on the wrong forum all this time. Are you aware of any other forums that cater to sharing information about legitimate massage therapists?

Orlando City Search lists "bests" (e.g. best pizza in Orlando) and you can find best legit massage info there. Also you will find a forum where detailed reviews are written. Use Yahoo search and you will find it.

CB

R Consultant
05-11-08, 14:42
You have to have seen the actual name of this web site. I mean you did click on it so I have to believe you knew what your looking at to begin with.

Try your local yellow pages or as I mentioned before use a search engine to find what your looking for.

Happy Hunting..



There is a stated purpose of this forum. And, you are right, that is not to report about the quality of legitimate massages since those do not encompass a sexual act (as defined by the law, not Bill Clinton).

Since I am interested in the quality of the massage, attitude of the massage therapist and not "extras," I guess I have been posting on the wrong forum all this time. Are you aware of any other forums that cater to sharing information about legitimate massage therapists?

Sponge Worthy
05-11-08, 16:20
Since I am interested in the quality of the massage, attitude of the massage therapist and not "extras," I guess I have been posting on the wrong forum all this time. Are you aware of any other forums that cater to sharing information about legitimate massage therapists?

Try this one to see if it's to your liking.

http://www.massageresource.com/ubbcgi/ultimatebb.cgi

Looop
05-11-08, 17:32
Well guys I picked ASSA over TOA the other night and well the massage was good thee girl asian gal was 26 GREAT TS but when we got to the end she said ok TIME UP the problem was she spoke NO ENGLISH so as I stood up she sat next to me I put her hand on MR JOHNSON she played with it for a mind rubbin it and allowed me to rub her ALL OVER for a few extra min but she said I had to go as time was up. I don't know guys I'm not sure if I should take the risk of going next time and not getting a good H. E.

Tipped her. 20 for the reason she did rub him for a few min. Tried to ask her if she does personal massage at my home but like I said VERY BAD ENGLISH. Anyways this was my second trip to a AMP and the first one was offered by the lady. How can I tell the lady I need service without being rude.When she started rubbing Mr. Johnson, that was your signal that time wasn't really up. You missed it. I have been to ASSA three times, and twice the extras didn't start until after the therapist told me "time was up. " What else is she going to say after she's done massaging, "Are you ready for your HE now? " Better luck next time.

Gentleman 100
05-12-08, 06:39
What the hell is wrong with you, so you don't want to read ha... then you know what... this ain't the place for you.But to answer your question: Record this in your thick skull, E/W=NO Extras get it! In the times I've seen her (and they were a few) never was offered. So are you happy now, what's your next question?

End of story....let's move on.

CIUOkay,

My experience at East West was from a few months ago (before the Longwood PD decided that it did not like this place).

IMHO, East West has the best massage in the area. Before the raids, I always left very relaxed and satisfied. I do not know about now, but after the next time I visit, I will report about my experience.

Also, for postings, I believe that it is better to hint than to spell out. Good providers should not be harassed by LE because those of us who have a great time and want to share.

Gentleman 100
05-12-08, 06:41
I have not seen recently any experiences that were outstanding at NT. Does anyone have any recent experiences there that would make me want to stop by and visit?

Thanks and be safe.

Gentleman 100
05-13-08, 06:38
Yesterday I stopped by ToA and asked for a new therapist, Jessica. She is pleasant enough and probably in her mid-20s.

I forgot to cover myself with the towel, but she made sure I was covered the whole time. The massage itself was 6/10 (somewhat clinical).

As I expected, I TOFTT. My past experiences with Jenna there were much better, so I would recommend Jenna over Jessica.

House Fee: $.9
Tip: $.2*

*I know I should have tipped nothing, but she may learn.

Be safe.

Gentleman 100
05-13-08, 06:42
Assa is a decent place with skilled ladies. I stopped by after work. There was a short wait, but I was eventually assigned Nancy.

Nancy is typical AMP therapist, probably in her mid-30s and slim with (my guess) B+ to C- cups.

Nancy was very skilled at getting me thoroughly relaxed. I am not yet convinced that this place has a full dessert menu, but they do have a good relaxation technique that left me very satisfied.

BTW, if you need a pedicure, they are having a $25 special there (I declined).

Be safe out there.

Gentleman 100
05-15-08, 06:54
I read a report recently (I wish I can remember where) on AMPs in New Orleans being harassed by local LE for "protection insurance" (I. E. Payoffs/bribes). When a particular AMP did not pay, they got raided, even though there was no illegal activity going on at the AMP.

It would not suprise me to find out that the recent LE activity in Longwood is the same sort of corruption that goes on elsewhere. Think about it. LE do not get paid commensurate with the type of work they do, so you get a few sergeants or captains who find an easy way to supplement their income (and crap rolls down hill to junior officers as well). It is possible that the other legitimate businesses had to pay as well, and they were ratting out the AMPs that were not ponying up.

Because of this alleged corruption in Longwood, probably the FDLE is investigating the area agencies right now.

Of the Longwood AMPs that got raided, I had only visited East West. I can tell you that there was no hanky-panky going on there ever. It was a very good, relaxing massage. The therapist was very careful not to do anything improper, and I felt very relaxed, refreshed, and satisfied afterwards.

I would be disappointed to find out that LE in Seminole County is taking bribes and focussing their efforts on legitimate businesses that refuse to participate in this sort of graft.

I only hope that honest LE would look inwards and consider the possibility that some of their own are doing bad things. It makes the hardworking, honest LE look very bad (after all, we pay their salaries).

I hope that this posting will spark some conversations within LE circles to clean up any corruption in their part of Central Florida.

Have a nice day.

Nobull1
05-15-08, 09:53
I made a one hour appointment (with no specific therapist) at 2 p.m. a week or so ago. When I arrived, the lady said someone had messed up and didn't write down my appointment and she could only give me 30 minutes. I agreed but later wished I hadn't. I have to admit I was pissed and not enjoying the massage. After about 15 minutes I told the lady I didn't want to complete the session because it seemed too rushed. She was very apologetic and obviously didn't want to to feel bad about my experience and went overboard with apologies and being nice as I was getting dressed. At one point she said, "OK, I'll tell you the truth. We had two appointments at 2 o'clock, and at 10 'till 2 a walk-in came and the other therapist took him, leaving me with two clients." She seemed miffed at the other therapist and said if I ever made an appointment with her (I'll not mention the name) I would get the full time. If you go to NT, don't be surprised if you encounter problems because other problematic situations have been reported here.


I have not seen recently any experiences that were outstanding at NT. Does anyone have any recent experiences there that would make me want to stop by and visit?

Thanks and be safe.

Black Magic 82
05-15-08, 18:11
I have not seen recently any experiences that were outstanding at NT. Does anyone have any recent experiences there that would make me want to stop by and visit?

Thanks and be safe.This dream was about a month ago.

I had the same appointment issues that the previous poster mentioned. I made an appointment, then when I got there, they had no record of it and could not see me.

So I decided to go early on a Saturday morning to make certain that they were available. When I got there all of the therapists were standing around waiting for customers. I chose an hour massage, I was led into the room and they made sure that the lighting and temperature were good. I got everyone's favorite girl as my therapist. She was very nice and gave a decent massage. She eventually let her hands roam and once she saw my reaction, she told me to flip. After a brief conversation, we agreed that she would need some saran wrap. Afterwards, she helped me get dressed and I tipped $. The tip was higher than other places but I didn't mind.

When I woke up from my dream I had a big smile on my face.

CoolinUSA
05-15-08, 23:26
I made a one hour appointment (with no specific therapist) at 2 p.m. a week or so ago. When I arrived, the lady said someone had messed up and didn't write down my appointment and she could only give me 30 minutes. I agreed but later wished I hadn't. I have to admit I was pissed and not enjoying the massage. After about 15 minutes I told the lady I didn't want to complete the session because it seemed too rushed. She was very apologetic and obviously didn't want to to feel bad about my experience and went overboard with apologies and being nice as I was getting dressed. At one point she said, "OK, I'll tell you the truth. We had two appointments at 2 o'clock, and at 10 'till 2 a walk-in came and the other therapist took him, leaving me with two clients." She seemed miffed at the other therapist and said if I ever made an appointment with her (I'll not mention the name) I would get the full time. If you go to NT, don't be surprised if you encounter problems because other problematic situations have been reported here.
It's been like 8 months or more since my last visit there and that also happened to me; they either double book or simply the "other monger" got there before me and you how it is, first come, first served basis I was locked out to simply put it. Lilly used to be my fav there until that day, but you know what... better things have happened since so I guess the old adage that "things happen for a reason" totally applies. Good customer service should be found in every business, don't you think?

Steven Jones
05-16-08, 08:08
better things have happened sinceWhat happened?

Slapper27
05-16-08, 08:24
I finally made it to Assa yesterday and I am slowly but surely starting to consider the escort route. I realise that everything in Seminole is bad because Uncle LEO has been on a rampage, but I didn't think it would make it over to the south side of town. I know I have been out of the game a while, but I got a mediocre TS, a miserable massage, and no release. I made it quite clear several times what I was interested in and I got the old "this not that place" response. 90 at the door and 5 for a tip (charma) and I was out of there. I also failed to mention that it was only 42 minutes after I paid for an hour. I have seen good reports out of this place and was completely thrown by this unexpected poor service. I will give it one more try, but for what it is starting to cost I would much rather take a road that I am guaranteed to reach my destination.

Citywalk
05-16-08, 16:29
It's been like 8 months or more since my last visit there and that also happened to me; they either double book or simply the "other monger" got there before me and you how it is, first come, first served basis I was locked out to simply put it. Lilly used to be my fav there until that day, but you know what... better things have happened since so I guess the old adage that "things happen for a reason" totally applies. Good customer service should be found in every business, don't you think?


My last time there was about 9 months ago, made an appointment, they overbooked and asked me to return in 30 minutes. I had nothing else to do that day so I returned 30 minuts later. I doubt I'll go back, I'm not real big on waiting in line like McDonalds.

Bigaldb
05-16-08, 19:12
Visited yesterday and was assigned Jenna. Not a spinner but the most pleasant and accomodating therapist yet. Perfect English, great massage, hot rocks, hot towels, special treatment with hot rocks and a moist hotpad on my sore knee, and on the flip did a great job on the legs, arms, shoulder and head. Fun to talk to, happy and singing, joking. Finally a very long, relaxed topless HR. $90 less $10 discount (thanks Mike) and $40 tip, well worth it. Warning-she will be on cacation on and off the next month so call ahead on availability.

Exec Talent
05-17-08, 03:41
Went to NT one time and that was one time too many. If I didn't see so many others here complaining about being rushed, I would have taken it personally.

What I think happens is this -- they know they have your money once you are in the room. If someone else walks in (my case) then they try to get you out of there ASAP so they do not lose the other client. Does not matter that you have paid for an hour.

What was especially rude was I was asked to come back again when she had more time! Well, she had time, she just chose to use it to make more money with another client rather than give me the time for which I paid.

Maybe when they have no clients they will understand what happens when you treat clients like an ATM.

Dr Kool
05-17-08, 12:23
Visited yesterday and was assigned Jenna. Not a spinner but the most pleasant and accomodating therapist yet. Perfect English, great massage, hot rocks, hot towels, special treatment with hot rocks and a moist hotpad on my sore knee, and on the flip did a great job on the legs, arms, shoulder and head. Fun to talk to, happy and singing, joking. Finally a very long, relaxed topless HR. $90 less $10 discount (thanks Mike) and $40 tip, well worth it. Warning-she will be on cacation on and off the next month so call ahead on availability.I know that many of us sometimes feel the need to brag and tell the world about our conquest, but this is the type of report that gets the therapist in hot water and draws unwanted LEO attention to the establishments.

It is not a bad thing to share a good experiences about a location, but it is my opinion that the therapists name (Read Gentlemen100 recent experience at lotus) and detail like "Finally a very long, relaxed topless HR" this should be shared via a PM when asked.

Just my 2 cents and advice on this issue. I for one may not post much about the good places I visit for this same reason but have shared the sensitive information with many via the PM.

Lets use the PM feature more and as a result hopefully there will be less complaints about Spa closures in the future.

Stay Cool

DK

CoolinUSA
05-18-08, 16:15
... Warning-she will be on cacation on and off the next month so call ahead on availability.

She will be on cacation...? Guys yes indeed watch out we definitely don't want to be near this therapist if she's on cacation. That can be pretty dangerous... I think. I actually don't know what can happen if we see a therapist that's on cacation on and off... be safe... LOL :-)


Hey dude, I'm just messing with ya!

Be safe and be cool in USA

CoolinUSA
05-18-08, 16:26
I know that many of us sometimes feel the need to brag and tell the world about our conquest, but this is the type of report that gets the therapist in hot water and draws unwanted LEO attention to the establishments.

It is not a bad thing to share a good experiences about a location, but it is my opinion that the therapists name (Read Gentlemen100 recent experience at lotus) and detail like "Finally a very long, relaxed topless HR" this should be shared via a PM when asked.

Just my 2 cents and advice on this issue. I for one may not post much about the good places I visit for this same reason but have shared the sensitive information with many via the PM.

Lets use the PM feature more and as a result hopefully there will be less complaints about Spa closures in the future.

Stay Cool

DK

I know a lot of you guys want to find out every little detail of every little AMP and every therapists every where... Well I also wan to know the wining numbers for the LOTO myself and that doesn't mean I'm going to get them. There's a certain element of surprise that makes this game interesting and although previous intelligence is always greatly appreciated we also need to be careful to spoil our game. Too much information is not always to the best interest of the therapist and to us mongers, read in between the lines also and make your own conclusions. Use the resources, perhaps PM a member or offer the info on a need to know basis. DK has a good point specially at this time when a lot of things are going on on our market. I understand that even some of our very own respected Senior Member don't share the same view but I'm just saying that keeping a low profile for a while is worth it for the sake of all of us here and for the sake of our incredible and friendly providers.
Work hard, play even harder but always be cool in USA...

CIU

Mr Orlando
05-19-08, 14:27
I know a lot of you guys want to find out every little detail of every little AMP and every therapists every where... Well I also wan to know the wining numbers for the LOTO myself and that doesn't mean I'm going to get them. There's a certain element of surprise that makes this game interesting and although previous intelligence is always greatly appreciated we also need to be careful to spoil our game. Too much information is not always to the best interest of the therapist and to us mongers, read in between the lines also and make your own conclusions. Use the resources, perhaps PM a member or offer the info on a need to know basis. DK has a good point specially at this time when a lot of things are going on on our market. I understand that even some of our very own respected Senior Member don't share the same view but I'm just saying that keeping a low profile for a while is worth it for the sake of all of us here and for the sake of our incredible and friendly providers.

Work hard, play even harder but always be cool in USA.

CIUThe fun part about a dream is the quest ans suprise of getting something you may have not expected.

Coneydog
05-20-08, 08:27
With a forum that starts out as a "usasexguide" address it is clear , whether we spell it out or not, what an AMP or other similar massage parlors are about. We don't need to get down to the level of locker room talk but we need to provide enough specific info. That's what this forum is for. We're not fooling LE just because we have a dream or talk in such vague generalities that the information could be printed in Good Housekeeping magazine.

As far as naming providers, none of the names they give are their real names, and I've known them to change them periodically. Whether we write or don't write enough info, AMP's and such get attention every now and then. It's like the seat belt law. It's a law but for the most part they don't stop us just for not wearing it. But several times a year they do crack down.

I'm not saying to brag about the visit, but we're really not fooling anybody. This forum is to guide us so our individual needs are met and we don't waste our hard earned money trying to discover on our own.

FloridaBum
05-20-08, 10:17
I have not been to Touch of Asia yet, but drive by 3-4 times daily, so it is kind of on my radar.

Last night I noticed they put a "Touch of Asia" sign up at the mortgage office next door. They must either be expanding or relocating.

Bklyn Born
05-20-08, 12:32
I have not seen recently any experiences that were outstanding at NT. Does anyone have any recent experiences there that would make me want to stop by and visit?

Thanks and be safe.

I have been a frequent visitor to NT for some time and have enjoyed both Lilly and Tracy. Never had an issue with being rushed or not there if i made an appointment.
Lilly is a little sweeter and softer than Tracy who is a little more standoffish till she gets to know you a little.
Both have fantastic finishes. Just depends if you like covered or saran wrap.

Be Safe
BB

Nobull1
05-20-08, 15:24
[QUOTE=Coneydog]With a forum that starts out as a "usasexguide" address it is clear , whether we spell it out or not, what an AMP or other similar massage parlors are about. We don't need to get down to the level of locker room talk but we need to provide enough specific info. That's what this forum is for. We're not fooling LE just because we have a dream or talk in such vague generalities that the information could be printed in Good Housekeeping magazine.

If we are explicit, it makes it easier for LEO and we are more likely to lose the providers. PM work find for those who want to know more.

CoolinUSA
05-20-08, 16:25
With a forum that starts out as a "usasexguide" address it is clear , whether we spell it out or not, what an AMP or other similar massage parlors are about. We don't need to get down to the level of locker room talk but we need to provide enough specific info. That's what this forum is for. We're not fooling LE just because we have a dream or talk in such vague generalities that the information could be printed in Good Housekeeping magazine.

As far as naming providers, none of the names they give are their real names, and I've known them to change them periodically. Whether we write or don't write enough info, AMP's and such get attention every now and then. It's like the seat belt law. It's a law but for the most part they don't stop us just for not wearing it. But several times a year they do crack down.

I'm not saying to brag about the visit, but we're really not fooling anybody. This forum is to guide us so our individual needs are met and we don't waste our hard earned money trying to discover on our own.

First of all let me tell you something about this forum too, nobody here "Needs to do anything"; I don't "need" to tell anything, nobody here gets paid to write anything and everything we write is "Pro Bono" "capiche". Now that we have established this fact lets then talk about what we can or can't expect from this or any other such forums; we write here to share experiences, to give important information about places and people of interest, we help each other out with our knowledge, information about the things we should be on the lookout in order to protect our fellow hobbyists and ourselves. In times like this I thinks is also prudent we measure everything we say about our providers remember that after all if we want to continue enjoying their services we have to be careful not to expose them to unnecessary dangers. They can be intimidated to quit or be fired, you know that has happened before. You are correct about your last sentence to certain degree, I can share some or all my experiences with you in private but also remember I don't know who you are or what your intentions are at the same time you don't know who I am and what are my intentions so some specifics we are better off working them on a more private setting. We all are looking to have a very good an pleasurable time when we visit any or our local AMP so like I said we can exchange views and ratings without compromising the same people we're bragging about. Just take a look at what happened quite some time ago with Suki, a very good therapist that was fired from Avalon Massage & Spa; she was fired because all the nonsense and the stupid and irrational comments made here by her ex-husband. Some spas have therapist that may or may not have a "Menu of Extras" and we know who those therapist are, but who are we to blow their cover and not only because of LEO sake but for their own personal sake. This is the Massage Parlor Review these providers aren't openly offering anything but a massage, let's keep that in mind.

So let's be informative and let's be helpful to the clan but at the same time let's be prudent; let's be cool :-)
Be safe fellow hobbyists
CIU

CoolinUSA
05-20-08, 16:37
[QUOTE=Coneydog]With a forum that starts out as a "usasexguide" address it is clear , whether we spell it out or not, what an AMP or other similar massage parlors are about. We don't need to get down to the level of locker room talk but we need to provide enough specific info. That's what this forum is for. We're not fooling LE just because we have a dream or talk in such vague generalities that the information could be printed in Good Housekeeping magazine.

If we are explicit, it makes it easier for LEO and we are more likely to lose the providers. PM work find for those who want to know more.

Thank you... very well said. With all that's going on the last thing our beloved providers need is some written evidence about their services... Folks does that makes sense... I know, I know LEO doesn't need us to prove anything, I know they aren't sitting at a computer just waiting for our posts to make a move... but is it really necessary sometimes to be so graphic?
Be cool guys
CIU

Sponge Worthy
05-20-08, 17:08
It seems this discussion comes up now and then. Do we write in such a vague manner that nobody knows what the hell is going on, or do we provide enough information for anyone (LEO or not) to get an idea what's happening at a given establishment?

Personally, I would lean more towards the latter. I'm not foolish enough to believe that a girl's job at one of these joints is going to last until retirement. They come and they go. If they get fired because of the behavior of their ex-husband, there's really nothing I can do about that. I'm not here to protect their job security. I trust they have enough common sense to do that on their own.

Let's face it, if their behavior is illegal and performed with strangers, they've already accepted the fact that they're performing with some risk associated.

So while I agree that the discussion here doesn't need to be overly graphic, we do need to provide some essential details IF the purpose is to share with each other. We're here for us, guys, not them. That sounds cold, but that's the purpose of the forum - to find people and places that provide the service we desire.

If you're going to let go of that notion and be so vague as to not provide useful information to anyone, why bother posting? If it's all in the PM's, just post that you had an experience and be prepared to answer hundreds or thousands of PMs - including those of LEO that you think are above-board here. Chances are that hardly any of us know who the other person is, anyway.

Nobull1
05-20-08, 19:05
[QUOTE=Sponge Worthy] I'm not foolish enough to believe that a girl's job at one of these joints is going to last until retirement. They come and they go. If they get fired because of the behavior of their ex-husband, there's really nothing I can do about that. I'm not here to protect their job security. I trust they have enough common sense to do that on their own.

I am concerned about entire establishments being transformed as has happened in the past few months in Seminole county. It's my guess we contributed to that. I appreciate good reports that let me know how well the person enjoyed the service.

CoolinUSA
05-20-08, 19:58
It seems this discussion comes up now and then. Do we write in such a vague manner that nobody knows what the hell is going on, or do we provide enough information for anyone (LEO or not) to get an idea what's happening at a given establishment?

Personally, I would lean more towards the latter. I'm not foolish enough to believe that a girl's job at one of these joints is going to last until retirement. They come and they go. If they get fired because of the behavior of their ex-husband, there's really nothing I can do about that. I'm not here to protect their job security. I trust they have enough common sense to do that on their own.

Let's face it, if their behavior is illegal and performed with strangers, they've already accepted the fact that they're performing with some risk associated.

So while I agree that the discussion here doesn't need to be overly graphic, we do need to provide some essential details IF the purpose is to share with each other. We're here for us, guys, not them. That sounds cold, but that's the purpose of the forum - to find people and places that provide the service we desire.

If you're going to let go of that notion and be so vague as to not provide useful information to anyone, why bother posting? If it's all in the PM's, just post that you had an experience and be prepared to answer hundreds or thousands of PMs - including those of LEO that you think are above-board here. Chances are that hardly any of us know who the other person is, anyway.

You see to a degree, I concur with you, I'm not against information on the contrary I've benefited in the past and at the present time from it. What I simply say is that there is "no need" as in "obligation" to no one to divulge certain particulars of our experiences, after all in my particular case (and I know in most cases here) I have spent a fortune in my "quest for knowledge", heck we should charge for such valuable information. So yes we're here to learn, to share and to watch out for each other but not to get anyone in hot water unnecessarily. Anyone can search my posts and see I have some very good reports and some not so interesting ones, so I guess I do like to share, but I try to write with as much measure as I can and different on each forum. Please don't get confuse not all the Asian Massage/Spa/Etc are the same and not all therapist are also the same. I do know some therapist that only after a year or two of continuously visiting that they've opened up a little so I'm just assuming that's not heir normal practice. Everyone has the right limited to the forum guidelines to post anything thy want... just be sensitive sometimes...
be cool

Clinton Bush
05-20-08, 20:30
It seems this discussion comes up now and then. Do we write in such a vague manner that nobody knows what the hell is going on, or do we provide enough information for anyone (LEO or not) to get an idea what's happening at a given establishment?

Personally, I would lean more towards the latter. I'm not foolish enough to believe that a girl's job at one of these joints is going to last until retirement. They come and they go. If they get fired because of the behavior of their ex-husband, there's really nothing I can do about that. I'm not here to protect their job security. I trust they have enough common sense to do that on their own.

Let's face it, if their behavior is illegal and performed with strangers, they've already accepted the fact that they're performing with some risk associated.

So while I agree that the discussion here doesn't need to be overly graphic, we do need to provide some essential details IF the purpose is to share with each other. We're here for us, guys, not them. That sounds cold, but that's the purpose of the forum - to find people and places that provide the service we desire.

If you're going to let go of that notion and be so vague as to not provide useful information to anyone, why bother posting? If it's all in the PM's, just post that you had an experience and be prepared to answer hundreds or thousands of PMs - including those of LEO that you think are above-board here. Chances are that hardly any of us know who the other person is, anyway.

I am reluctant to answer pm's from new posters or posters without a track record here. Sorry, this is not a "senior member" thing as some new members have suggested. It is just as you say, without some track record, who knows if the person that is pm'ing is named LEO.

CB

CoolinUSA
05-20-08, 23:51
I am reluctant to answer pm's from new posters or posters without a track record here. Sorry, this is not a "senior member" thing as some new members have suggested. It is just as you say, without some track record, who knows if the person that is pm'ing is named LEO.

CB

For the record I also agree that PM'ing is not the answer. I have always very politely answered as many PM's as possible but will never respond to a deluge. I'm friendly but very conservative in my answers so if the request is proper it will have all my attention otherwise it will be on a case by case.
Be Cool guys
CIU

MoonlightBiker
05-21-08, 10:05
Personally I think this is a sex guide forum and that's the main reason why anyone would come here. I also don't think it's too much to expect seeing that's what the name implies.

I really don't want to know if someone is the best masseuse in town or not. I don't need the details, although that's nice, but I do want to know if things will end well or if I'm paying far too much for an unqualified masseuse. I want to know who cheats on their time, who gives the most in depth TS, who has a bad attitude, who is clean, who is not, who has big boobs, who will show them, who is playful, who is so bad they will hurt you, who knows what they are doing, who is a waste of money, who deserves a great tip, who keeps running out of the room to answer the damn phone, and who makes you want to come back twice a week. In return I try to provide the same information when I post.

It seems a bit out of line to suggest that folks shouldn't share this information on a website that is designed for that very purpose. I was under the impression that we are here to help each other find what we're looking for. Let's not kid one another. We know what everyone is looking for. Something to help us nap better.

I for one do not go by the number of posts someone has. I go by the quality of the post and how willing they are to share their experience with others. Having spent thousands of dollars over the years to get whacked off doesn't really impress me. (That wasn't meant as a slam) And I don't believe that gives anyone any type of superior position. I personally believe it's those who share and help others that deserve any kind of recognition.

Again this is simply my opinion and not meant as a slam to anyone. It just seems we're getting a bit off track.

Ron News
05-21-08, 10:37
Personally I think this is a sex guide forum and that's the main reason why anyone would come here. I also don't think it's too much to expect seeing that's what the name implies.

It seems a bit out of line to suggest that folks shouldn't share this information on a website that is designed for that very purpose. I was under the impression that we are here to help each other find what we're looking for. Let's not kid one another. We know what everyone is looking for. Something to help us nap better.

I for one do not go by the number of posts someone has. I go by the quality of the post and how willing they are to share their experience with others.


I completely agree - the name of this forum is "Sex Guide." It is not an investment club, and the rules are simple - be polite to each other and (answer your PMs), report as much as you are comfortable reporting, and share as much as you can.

Members who criticize posters for posing too much, posting too little, or not posting often enough are in the wrong forum. They should move to a poetry forum where criticism is part of the game.

As the biker says, we are all looking for "Something to help us nap better." Those who want to establish rules to pretend that we are not looking for sex or think that leo is watching their every post and pm need to get real. The world revolves around the sun, not around the posters to this forum. Just keep it simple.

RN

CoolinUSA
05-21-08, 11:51
I completely agree - the name of this forum is "Sex Guide." It is not an investment club, and the rules are simple - be polite to each other and (answer your PMs), report as much as you are comfortable reporting, and share as much as you can.

Members who criticize posters for posing too much, posting too little, or not posting often enough are in the wrong forum. They should move to a poetry forum where criticism is part of the game.

As the biker says, we are all looking for "Something to help us nap better." Those who want to establish rules to pretend that we are not looking for sex or think that leo is watching their every post and pm need to get real. The world revolves around the sun, not around the posters to this forum. Just keep it simple.

RN
Guys, guys come on, take it easy... take a deep breath, I'm up for that too. Like I said before I have received a lot of good advise from reading the reports here, we're not denying that. I actually do report the good the bad and the ugly so everyone can take whatever they need from the info... but having said that it doesn't mean that I need to be graphic at all times... That's all, don't get all hyped up with this issue...
I will continue to write and report and I know others will do the same for the benefit of the "community"... but please that doesn't mean we have to "burn" anyone in particular by adding what can be "inflammatory" comments. You are right about the KISS philosophy: Keep It Simple Stupid.
Regarding the title of the forum one thing I have to disagree is that regardless of what the main title says you aren't necessary correct about all the sub-forums;we're not always looking for sex, I'm not always looking for sex to have fun yes to have sex it wouldn't be here I would look across the other directories i.e. the Craiglist Report, the StreetWalkers, the Escorts etc, this is for Massage Parlor Reports that's to me the difference. Again don't jump the gun, I'm i no way a therapists advocate or anything like that I want to get my "moneys worth" if you will and I will support you guys when I see it's the right thing to do and guys it's all good we live in a culture of freedom of speech and that's what makes it interesting we can do what other countries can't...
PS. RN I'm not establishing any rules buddy just giving an opinion, I've always looked at your reports and I see you are pretty cool and most of the time I have agreed on your opinions just this time I think you are misunderstanding me, but like they say Down Under: no worries mate! Be Cool my fellow hobbyists :-)

MoonlightBiker
05-21-08, 13:31
Coolin, With all due respect what you are writing and what you are saying come across as two totally separate things. When someone makes it a point to tell another person how or what they need to post then they are in fact trying to dictate what goes on the board. The best part about what you wrote is that it is your opinion. Going back and reading the posts I get the feeling that it's ok for a few people to have opinions but not others. Nobody is getting upset or uppity. We're all talking like adults so no need to tell us to settle down. Let's just let folks express their experiences, or dreams, however they like. If someone in the field is horrible I personally want to know. That isn't an attack or a burn. It's an opinion stated. They can always come on and tell their side of the story. That's what we, or at least I, are here to see and read. Honest, straightforward, uncensored information.

Nobull1
05-21-08, 14:45
Here's how it works. Write explicitly about AMPs. Next, lose providers and services. Then, change the name of this forum to USA No SexGuide.

(I write this to the dummies who focus on the name of this forum and who advocate writing according to the name and are clueless to the fact that when they, do they lose what they came here for.)

Nobull1
05-21-08, 16:14
Here's how it works. Write explicitly about AMPs. Next, lose providers and services. Then, change the name of this forum to USA No SexGuide.

(I write this to the dummies who focus on the name of this forum and who advocate writing according to the name and are clueless to the fact that when they, do they lose what they came here for.)

I've figured it out. Ya'll are not here for the action. You're just here for talk.

Gentleman 100
05-21-08, 18:31
Earlier this week I went to ToA and got the usual, good experience (not Jessica: she needs more experience before I recommend her).

I learned that ToA is moving next door to the A+ Mortgage building (a larger version of the current joint) with better parking. This is scheduled to happen in early June. If I hear more, I will keep you posted.

Be safe, and play nice.

Coneydog
05-21-08, 18:39
Is all we are really looking for so let's just write about our experiences as suits us and stop trying to convince others how they should tell their experiences.

Just look at the pictures and graphics on the Massage Parlor Reports pages with pictures of providers and sexual acts depicted and I think we all should feel comfortable with saying want we want how we want.

Think about it because its been going on for centuries and it really isn't ever going away. These times are just a blip on the screen. Let's get back to having fun and letting each other know where to find it.

Sponge Worthy
05-21-08, 19:40
Here's how it works. Write explicitly about AMPs. Next, lose providers and services. Then, change the name of this forum to USA No SexGuide.

(I write this to the dummies who focus on the name of this forum and who advocate writing according to the name and are clueless to the fact that when they, do they lose what they came here for.)

Yes, I think you are missing something. If you're afraid that your reports will cause a business to get shut down, then you've already given up and nothing here will ever help you again.

Places come and go. Change is the nature of things and you can't sit on your fingers afraid to type a report for fear of a good thing going away. It's GOING to happen someday. I used to love going to Xanadu in Brevard. Hell, 20 years ago it seemed like you could wet your dick in any place open in Brevard. That's not the case any more. Things changed, and it wasn't just because someone, somewhere wrote a report.

You can write or omit whatever you please. I'm simply providing my opinion that reports that don't communicate useful information out of fear of tipping off LEO are useless to everyone. Why even bother if you're not going to say something useful in your report?

Please note that I'm speaking generally, not about you or any specific report you've written.

Bigaldb
05-21-08, 20:36
Yes, I think you are missing something. If you're afraid that your reports will cause a business to get shut down, then you've already given up and nothing here will ever help you again.

Places come and go. Change is the nature of things and you can't sit on your fingers afraid to type a report for fear of a good thing going away. It's GOING to happen someday. I used to love going to Xanadu in Brevard. Hell, 20 years ago it seemed like you could wet your dick in any place open in Brevard. That's not the case any more. Things changed, and it wasn't just because someone, somewhere wrote a report.

You can write or omit whatever you please. I'm simply providing my opinion that reports that don't communicate useful information out of fear of tipping off LEO are useless to everyone. Why even bother if you're not going to say something useful in your report?

Please note that I'm speaking generally, not about you or any specific report you've written.Thanks for putting my earlier report on Taste of Asia in perspective. With all the recent negative stuff on AMPs filling the forum, I figured a really good session was worth reporting on. What was graphic about it? Recent reports (e.g. #1541) named two girls at NT and the saran wrap. Did their boyfriends / husbands come and haul them off? Doubt it. Did LEO raid them the next day? Not that I know about.

Was I boasting or bragging? About a conquest? If you walk into an AMP with a pocket full of Jackson's, there is not going to be much of a conquest to brag about.

MoonlightBiker
05-21-08, 20:43
(I write this to the dummies who focus on the name of this forum and who advocate writing according to the name and are clueless to the fact that when they, do they lose what they came here for.)

Grow up. I highly doubt anyone here is clueless. No need to drag this down to a third grade level.

Azmodeus56
05-21-08, 20:49
What the hell is with all the flaming here. Just shut the F**K up and post reviews. I do have one request and that is to stick with the 40,60,100 scale some of the workers are getting greedy and starting at the 100 level.

CoolinUSA
05-21-08, 23:32
My dear hobbyists just in case you want a nice report on some nice players check out report #1816 for your pleasure. I recommend it, there lets change the subject and let's move on, be safe folks,
CIU

TravelingVoye
05-22-08, 00:33
Sorry in advance for continuing the topic of "how much detail to provide in posts", but in MHO there is a difference between an AMP and a private provider. As some have pointed out, the girls at an AMP will come and go - as will the owners - I don't have any particular concerns about sharing info on AMPs in the forum. If they get busted they will just re-open in a few months in another location.

However private providers who are licensed and work out of their homes are a different variety as far as I'm concerned. They may do 50% legit business and 50% clients that they provide extras to -and these %'s may be off. But either way I'm much more inclined to be discreet with individual providers than I am with AMPs.

Not sure why, and I'm not telling anyone else how to post - please post whatever you want - but for whatever reason I feel more comfortable handling any details on private providers via PM with folks I feel I can trust.

Happy hunting to all,

TV

LuvumBare
05-23-08, 14:54
Interesting reading your thoughts. I am from New Jersey and we have had our share of AMP busts recently. Although we cannot prove USASG was responsible, the data here certainly helped LE as they hit only the most enjoyable(FS) locations. I agree it is a good idea to keep public information to a minimum and not post the very graphic reports.

All this conservatism is causing me a problem since I am in Orlando, on International Drive for almost a week and I would like some guidance on locations and pricing.

PM details please. I don't need specifics as to provider name etc. Olny need to know the address, average quality of staff and an idea of services and prices.

Much appreciated:
'bare

Nobull1
05-24-08, 13:00
I tried NT again and just wanted to report no problems what-so-ever. Got the full one hour. However, I think I was the only customer the entire time. I like this staff better than all except for Lilly and Mae (formerly of Ginza) who were equivalent to those at NT. I think Lilly is still at Ginza.

Matt Russ
05-24-08, 14:57
Green Tea Massage is good, it used to be 7 Spa, $80 for the hour, includes TS.

MoonlightBiker
05-24-08, 16:41
I tried NT again and just wanted to report no problems what-so-ever. Got the full one hour. However, I think I was the only customer the entire time. I like this staff better than all except for Lilly and Mae (formerly of Ginza) who were equivalent to those at NT. I think Lilly is still at Ginza.

Last phone call I made to Ginza it was Lilly who answered.

Film5947
05-24-08, 18:27
I had appt NT. I decided to 90 minute massage and scrub! She included the scrub as part of the 90 minute which was upseting to me because it was $50 more for the scrub! Nevertheless, it was ok massage. and I did get full 90 minutes. One other thing upset me is she kept on coming out to meet other customers. Other than that I it was good massage. I will never get scrub, that is a waste of money I rather pay for 90 miniutes instead!

Film5947
05-24-08, 18:42
One of the best professional massages I have had in a long time. However, must sign a waiver before come in. You can not ask or suggest anything "inapproaite" or they will stop session and will have you to leave. No problem!! I don't care about all that!! What like about this place is it only 65h and your second visit is only 55h and the place is very clean. Plus, they know how to give really good professional massage.

Film5947
05-24-08, 19:07
The ladies are nice but they give worst massages, plus I think they are filming everyone in the rooms. I accidentally walk into a room that had 6 to 8 monitors. Becareful here! I been here 5 times just for the hell of it to see what its all about. Something does not feel right at this establishment. So I am not coming here anymore. (it snot LE I'm talking about!!!) Thesse ladies are not very good at giving massages. Well I will make you guys make your own conclusions.

I like a place where the women are independent. They can say yes and they can say no. If they want to give you a massage they can if they don't they can say no!
For example, I paid for the hour but wanted to leave early and did want the TS, but wanted her keep the && and gave a tip anyways. She said please stay she does want get in touble with the boss. I had to talk to the boss to tell him that she was very good to me!!!! That suck for her!!!!

Any has info Spa Sarenity it use to be A very nice place to go plus it is close to home for me?

Dr Kool
05-25-08, 13:10
I had appt NT. I decided to 90 minute massage and scrub! She included the scrub as part of the 90 minute which was upseting to me because it was $50 more for the scrub! Nevertheless, it was ok massage. and I did get full 90 minutes. One other thing upset me is she kept on coming out to meet other customers. Other than that I it was good massage. I will never get scrub, that is a waste of money I rather pay for 90 miniutes instead!In recent reports I have been reading somewhat negative reports about NT and their scheduling problems many of you have had. Sorry to here. I had nothing but good experiences there and I think the staff is one of the best around. You get a decent massage and great looking therapists.

I consider myself a regular there among other places I also frequent since I visit there once every other week and I have never encountered a problem with scheduling or rushed service. My FAV therapist there is Tracy (nickname she uses) and I always schedule a 90 minute session with her which is always very satisfying and rewarding, usually leave the place feeling very relaxed.

In the years I been visiting there I have never had or been offered a scrub. They don't have a TS there. They have a shower but no TS. What kind of body scrub are offering? Is this some type of dry scrub or is it the same type of lotion scrub offered at some SPA's to remove the dead skin cells? I have had body scrubs at a few places I frequent which offer this service and it is usually great but it has always been as part or associated with the TS.

Has anybody else experienced this $50 Scrub? Was it worth it? Film5947 is right I would be pretty pissed off if I paid $50 extra for a scrub and they jam it into a session you already paid for. For $50 extra it better carry it's own time.

Stay Kool

It's Brutal out there.

DK

Nobull1
05-25-08, 14:35
In the years I been visiting there I have never had or been offered a scrub.

Has anybody else experienced this $50 Scrub?
Stay Kool

It's Brutal out there.

DK

I've been three times. Never heard of a scrub there.

Film5947
05-25-08, 15:36
I've been three times. Never heard of a scrub there.Next time you go there ask for the scrub. They will take out menu and they will show their prices on everything. Plus it's on the whiteboard. Just take a look. It says, "ask about our hot aroma therapy for &10 and/or bodyscrub for $50. They use this sand type of paper to scrub your skin. Its not like a TS. This is more like they do at those spas where they put that sand crap on you and massage your skin with it to take away the dead skin skin from your body. They take bucket in the room with them and a hot towel to get your skin moist. Then thay take the wet sand and massage into our skin. It feel o.k. but not my kind of thing. After that she tell you to take a shower to get the rest of the sand crap off of you.

Just to repeat myself it is not a TS. They actually give you a body scrub. I don't recommend it!!!!!

Dr Kool
05-25-08, 16:03
Hey my fellow hobbyists,

I don't want to beat a dead horse, just want to let you know that I did not mean to cause havoc with the comment I made on report #1535 about being a little less graphic in our reports cause it gets the therapist in hot water. I was simply trying to highlight that detailed and graphic reporting in more ways than not defeats the purpose of why we are reporting in the first place.

I for one have been in this hobby for many years and don't really need anyone to guide me to a place to get my rocks off. I have done pretty good on my own at finding good places that provide the services I need and am looking for. In short I don't read this forum to get sex I know where to go for that. Yes Yes I know someone said this is the USASexGuide, well of course how stupid of me... But I will add it's the USASexGuide but it is the Massage Parlor Reports section of the guide and in this section if you haven't figured it out already you get Massage Parlor related reports for any other types of reports go to the related section.

My comment was just to simply state a fact. I frequent many of the same places you fellow hobbyists frequent and many times with a different end result. but that is not the issue. I also frequent many places many of you hobbyists have given up on because the desired end result was not obtained. The funny thing is that the desired end result was not obtained not because the therapist does not provide it but because she did not want to put her job in jeopardy and her name or service made public or splattered on this forum which by the way she was well aware of it's existence and do not want to be a part of it.

There are many therapist who work in legit establishments who provide a desert menu but only to a select few because of fear of having their names splattered across this forum so in the end who losses. I know we should ignore our providers wishes and report every detail at the expense of those who service us because "We are here to share information at all cost so all of us fellow hobbyists can all get our rocks off and live in this happily ever after little world of ours called the USASexGuide".

Many with whom I have shared info via PM have frequented the places I am talking about and know what the deal is. "Hey Dude I reach a new level with our FAV Russian thanks" That comment my not mean anything to many but much to whom it was intended.

I for one don't care what and how anybody writes or reports. I got my good places I frequent both legit and non and they are not closing down anytime soon. I for one don't rely on this forum for info I just look at it as a form of entertainment. So it does me no harm what anyone writes or doesn't write. I been doing this a long time and know my way through the hoops Hey I was not trying to tell anyone how to report or what to say, we live in a country where there is freedom of speech "I Believe". So go on say it as you want when you want cause in the end it will only hurt your own purpose. Some posted the following
"Places come and go. Change is the nature of things and you can't sit on your fingers afraid to type a report for fear of a good thing going away. It's GOING to happen someday. I used to love going to Xanadu in Brevard. Hell, 20 years ago it seemed like you could wet your dick in any place open in Brevard. That's not the case any more. Things changed, and it wasn't just because someone, somewhere wrote a report.

You can write or omit whatever you please. I'm simply providing my opinion that reports that don't communicate useful information out of fear of tipping off LEO are useless to everyone. Why even bother if you're not going to say something useful in your report?" Fine I respect your opinion but it doesn't mean we have to speed up the process by being so graphic and detailed in our reports. I believe we are all adults here on this forum, we all know how to read between the lines... And that is my opinion!!


"So while I agree that the discussion here doesn't need to be overly graphic, we do need to provide some essential details IF the purpose is to share with each other. We're here for us, guys, not them. That sounds cold, but that's the purpose of the forum - to find people and places that provide the service we desire." Well said it does sound "COLD" but lets not be so selfish and egotistic and forget that even though "You are here for You" and not them "They are the Providers who Service Us" and without "Them" we might as well pick up a $7 "Skin Magazine" at our local newsstand and beat the cat.

Please note that I'm also speaking general terms, not about you or any specific report you've written. Exerts from reports were used only to highlight the point I am trying to get across.

Stay Kool

It is brutal out there

DK

CoolinUSA
05-25-08, 20:56
In recent reports I have been reading somewhat negative reports about NT and their scheduling problems many of you have had. Sorry to here. I had nothing but good experiences there and I think the staff is one of the best around. You get a decent massage and great looking therapists.

I consider myself a regular there among other places I also frequent since I visit there once every other week and I have never encountered a problem with scheduling or rushed service. My FAV therapist there is Tracy (nickname she uses) and I always schedule a 90 minute session with her which is always very satisfying and rewarding, usually leave the place feeling very relaxed.

In the years I been visiting there I have never had or been offered a scrub. They don't have a TS there. They have a shower but no TS. What kind of body scrub are offering? Is this some type of dry scrub or is it the same type of lotion scrub offered at some SPA's to remove the dead skin cells? I have had body scrubs at a few places I frequent which offer this service and it is usually great but it has always been as part or associated with the TS.

Has anybody else experienced this $50 Scrub? Was it worth it? Film5947 is right I would be pretty pissed off if I paid $50 extra for a scrub and they jam it into a session you already paid for. For $50 extra it better carry it's own time.

Stay Kool

It's Brutal out there.

DK
Unless it they changed it lately, it's a bucket with water then she scrubs you little by little with a towel and soap, nothing glorious about it. I never repeat it.
CIU

Otownstamina
05-26-08, 00:12
I had a dream that I called Ginza really late but was still suggested to visit. Arrived at 12am on the dot and was by a tall and sexy woman. TS was good, the massage was ok and left with a smile. Shocked to still walk in right at closeing, but I guess things have been slow. I will dream again one day.

Nightowl21
05-26-08, 12:58
Hey guys,

I would tend to agree with Dr. Kool, NoBull, etc. Info here is extremely useful, but it can have the exact opposite effect in the wrong hands. I have spent thousand$$$ and many months in trial and error to find the places I like the most before I ran across this site. My first post, I was a little nieve, and afterwards, thought I had posted a little too much. Shortly after, another member went to the same place, saw the same girl and got NADA. Said the place sucked. Good! Hope it was Leo. I went back a few weeks later and all good. I had read a lot about Mae here and intended to give her a try, but now she is gone. Also NT sounded intruiging, but then the Longwood busts, and seemed like everything went to crap. If they are going to harrass our beloved providers, nothing we can do about it. Just drive down OBT and you can see that they apparently have the resources with all the patrol cars out there. I just say don't make it easy for them. With budget cuts like they are, it is too easy for them to RTFF and know exactly where to go and who to ask for, at minimum expense. Let the fuckers TOFTT like we've done. I think most members here read between the lines pretty well. It also seems like the most graphic posts are probably either bs, or the person just likes to "stroke" his own "ego" (probably while he is typing the report). I know people are going to do their own thing, no matter the consequenses, but let's please use a little tact so as not to ruin a good thing. Remember that not only can you f**k it up for your fellow brethren, but you can facilitate helping the other side. This sport is a bit of an addiction, and if you screw it up in O town, that is just that much further you have to travel to find a "new" place and then start the search all over again. Again, I have gotten some really excellent info from you guys and it is greatly appreciated and hope it continues on for a long, long time. I don't see anything wrong with posting a decent report in moderation and letting people PM you if they are interested, then you can weed out possible undesirables. With what has happened on the streets lately, and with CL ripoffs and setups, the AMP's are one of the last safe havens around. I certainly mean no disrespect to anyone by my comments and don't want to sound like a know it all, but if you look at the overall picture, hopefully you would agree. As long as there is a demand, there will be a supply, so the only question is the QUALITY. Remember, we're all in this together.

Stay safe.

Newto Otown
05-27-08, 20:12
Well. I'll never go back there again. What used to be my favorite (and only) massage parlor has turned into a complete waste of money.

The last two times. No HE, but my biggest complaint: bad massage, especially the latest.

When I arrived, a new girl answered the door. Asked if I'd been there before. I said yes. A 10-minute wait later (no other customers that I could tell) and this overweight Asian woman comes in. Asks several more times, have I been there before. How many times. Did I know Lilly. I'm figuring she's feeling me out. The massage hurt more than it felt good. She put her ENTIRE weight into it. Which was quite a bit of weight. Her feet were so huge and dry. It was a turn off. The massage was sloppy and although she rubbed her body against me. It wasn't the good kind. The end of the massage included her manipulating my legs and then sitting on me for a minute or so. I was in pain. But sometimes a hard massage is good. Not this time.

Then the topper. She asked me to turn over. There is some light touch of the happy place. Then she asks again. Have I been there before. Then she made a motion with her hand. Had I ever gotten a HE. I said yes. I offered that I'd had it many times but not the last time. She asked why. I said I didn't know. Then she asked how much I normally tip. I said $20 and she gave me an ugly look and shook her head no. She then said "And you won't be getting one this time either. " I said fine. I actually was so turned off by her anyway. That I wasn't hard. I almost asked if I could just leave.

Gross. Rude. Not worth the money. From my favorite spot to my "never go there again" spot. What a shame.

Sponge Worthy
05-27-08, 21:50
Paranoia runs rampant here. Fine. Be vague and elusive. Let others read between the lines. I honestly don't think it makes a bit of difference to LEO. If you're talking about a place, whether revealing details or not, then it's enough to raise their interest to go check it out on their own.

Basically, all this subterfuge is less effective than you think and mostly just deprives others of some enjoyment while the opportunity is there. The cops will continue to bust these places, things will dry up for a while, and then they will re-open. The cycle repeats. Your posts on this forum just aren't that important in the grand scheme because it's been going on longer than this board has been around.

My opinion is simple. If you're not providing information in your report, then you're just bragging.

Personally, I think this discussion is good. I'm pleased to see the different points of view and have the opportunity to bring different writing styles to the surface. While I haven't advocated graphic information, I do fully support reporting with useful information.

CoolinUSA
05-27-08, 23:58
Paranoia runs rampant here. Fine. Be vague and elusive. Let others read between the lines. I honestly don't think it makes a bit of difference to LEO. If you're talking about a place, whether revealing details or not, then it's enough to raise their interest to go check it out on their own.

Basically, all this subterfuge is less effective than you think and mostly just deprives others of some enjoyment while the opportunity is there. The cops will continue to bust these places, things will dry up for a while, and then they will re-open. The cycle repeats. Your posts on this forum just aren't that important in the grand scheme because it's been going on longer than this board has been around.

My opinion is simple. If you're not providing information in your report, then you're just bragging.

Personally, I think this discussion is good. I'm pleased to see the different points of view and have the opportunity to bring different writing styles to the surface. While I haven't advocated graphic information, I do fully support reporting with useful information.

My dear partner in the clan remember Confusius said
"What the superior man seeks is in himself, what the ordinary man seeks, is in others"

Just food for thought,
CIU

Ron News
05-28-08, 10:10
My opinion is simple. If you're not providing information in your report, then you're just bragging.



My dear partner in the clan remember Confusius said
"What the superior man seeks is in himself, what the ordinary man seeks, is in others"

Just food for thought,
CIU

Not everyone brags, Sponge, some just babel.

Let's look at this latest bust. As far as I know, the five AMPs in Longwood were the only ones busted this last time. Before that, the Orlando busts and the bust that shut down Spa Serenity the first time were focused on possible links to organized crime.

The Longwood busts were caused by the operators of the two new AMPs opening up in a block or two of the long-established AMPs on SR434. When East-West put up that sign promising showers and relaxation, I knew it was only a matter of time before she would be busted. Four AMPs in row made that strip look like a real red light row of fun houses. The AMP east of there was busted only because it was in Longwood. The operators of the two new AMPs were dumb and everybody paid for it.

But, the locations in Casselberry and Altamonte weren't busted as far as I know. Ginza was never busted, were they? It appears that the busts were a local, community effort. Now, Ginza will probably never come back to the level that it once was, paranoia has set in there and that will take a long time to fade.

All the AMP names have shown up in this forum since I've been a member - besides, if a guy can't recognize an AMP when he sees it, he is interested in a "legitimate" massage, as some people claim on this forum. Ha, Ha, sure they are.

I haven't posted recently because they won't let me out of the nursing home, but I'm making plans to sneak off to Rainbow Spa this week, I have friends there, and I'll let you know how it goes.

RN

Sponge Worthy
05-28-08, 10:33
My dear partner in the clan remember Confusius said
"What the superior man seeks is in himself, what the ordinary man seeks, is in others"

Just food for thought,
CIU

If you're going to quote the man, at least do him the courtesy of spelling his name correctly. To the extent that Master K'ung asked that we do not expect of others that which we do not expect of ourselves, I'm following his path.

Sponge Worthy
05-28-08, 10:34
I haven't posted recently because they won't let me out of the nursing home, but I'm making plans to sneak off to Rainbow Spa this week, I have friends there, and I'll let you know how it goes.

RN

Well, I wish you success in whatever you seek to find. I haven't even had the chance to get out lately due to other commitments, but I have a couple of places in mind to try. Perhaps this weekend.

Nobull1
05-28-08, 14:35
Not everyone brags, Sponge, some just babel.


Ginza was never busted, were they?


RN

Yes, I think they were. Someone reported here of Lilly being very upset, saying something like, "I didn't do it." I asked her this weekend if the cops visited. Her reply was, "everybody."

Nobull1
05-28-08, 14:47
The massage hurt more than it felt good. She put her ENTIRE weight into it. Which was quite a bit of weight. Her feet were so huge and dry. It was a turn off. The massage was sloppy and although she rubbed her body against me. It wasn't the good kind. The end of the massage included her manipulating my legs and then sitting on me for a minute or so. I was in pain. But sometimes a hard massage is good. Not this time.



I had the same provider last week. Same results. Most heavy handed massage I've ever experienced. Lot of pain. Saw Lilly a few days later. She's still Lilly: sweet, beautiful, and competent. I will continue to see Lilly.

Fluxaeon
05-28-08, 14:56
I had the exact experience at Ginza about a month ago. Worst massage. Jerking and pulling on my legs. Slapping the bottoms of my feet. I think she was paying me back for going to Viet Nam. I will never go back.

CoolinUSA
05-28-08, 16:47
If you're going to quote the man, at least do him the courtesy of spelling his name correctly. To the extent that Master K'ung asked that we do not expect of others that which we do not expect of ourselves, I'm following his path.

Pardon my "interpretation" of the "spelling of his name" but perhaps it's not only me perhaps the Stanford Encyclopedia needs your expertise, my honorable Sponge http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/confucius/

Relax my friend there was no pun intended I just wrote that to alleviate the tension... you are still the man

MoonlightBiker
05-28-08, 22:40
Major bump on Ginza. I will never return. I wasn't sure I'd make it out alive after my last visit. I was greeted at the door by a heavy Asian woman who liked to give me a look like, "are you LE?" many many many many many times. She left me standing in the front for a good 5 min which I absolutely hate. Then lots of questioning until she stepped into a room with Lilly and came back out saying, "Lilly says you are good man." Then she acted as slutty as a big cow can act.

The absolute worst part was the massage, if you can call it that. It started out with ice cold lotion being slapped on me and then smeared around, not rubbed or massaged. It was as if she were doing this for the first time. Then suddenly she would clamp down on a muscle and just squeeze the shit out of it. Then she'd lay on top of me. Several times actually. It was as if a buffalo suddenly decided to take a nap on top of me. It was horrible, but there was more to come. I don't know where the hell she came up with this but she would take her heavy weight fighter hands and make them into a fist and then drive them into my skull. I swear I almost stood up and punched her in her fat head.

Now just imagine this over weight woman with size 12 feet crawling up on the table to walk on your back. Hell I thought my shoulder was going to come out of joint when she landed on it.

Oh let's get to the hot rocks... First two scalding rocks were placed in the center of my back. Then they were taken away and cold dry rocks were used to rub all over me. I swear this woman is either the worst masseuse or she really hates men.

No negotiation at the end for me. Straight to it, but I don't know how you can call it a happy ending if you feel like you had a tooth knocked out and two arms broken. I went here because my back was killing me and I really needed a massage. I left with everything killing me.

The worst.

Clinton Bush
05-29-08, 00:29
Straight to it, but I don't know how you can call it a happy ending if you feel like you had a tooth knocked out and two arms broken. I went here because my back was killing me and I really needed a massage. I left with everything killing me.

The worst.

Sounds your happy ending was that you were happy the experience ended.

CB

R Consultant
05-29-08, 07:33
I think after all th reviews I would have tried to find a better place. Is this place always been this bad or is just something going on at this particular time? Its sad as the MP are falling apart at the seams. I only know of 1 or 2 I can recommend.

Happy Hunting..



Major bump on Ginza. I will never return. I wasn't sure I'd make it out alive after my last visit. I was greeted at the door by a heavy Asian woman who liked to give me a look like, "are you LE?" many many many many many times. She left me standing in the front for a good 5 min which I absolutely hate. Then lots of questioning until she stepped into a room with Lilly and came back out saying, "Lilly says you are good man." Then she acted as slutty as a big cow can act.

The absolute worst part was the massage, if you can call it that. It started out with ice cold lotion being slapped on me and then smeared around, not rubbed or massaged. It was as if she were doing this for the first time. Then suddenly she would clamp down on a muscle and just squeeze the shit out of it. Then she'd lay on top of me. Several times actually. It was as if a buffalo suddenly decided to take a nap on top of me. It was horrible, but there was more to come. I don't know where the hell she came up with this but she would take her heavy weight fighter hands and make them into a fist and then drive them into my skull. I swear I almost stood up and punched her in her fat head.

Now just imagine this over weight woman with size 12 feet crawling up on the table to walk on your back. Hell I thought my shoulder was going to come out of joint when she landed on it.

Oh let's get to the hot rocks... First two scalding rocks were placed in the center of my back. Then they were taken away and cold dry rocks were used to rub all over me. I swear this woman is either the worst masseuse or she really hates men.

No negotiation at the end for me. Straight to it, but I don't know how you can call it a happy ending if you feel like you had a tooth knocked out and two arms broken. I went here because my back was killing me and I really needed a massage. I left with everything killing me.

The worst.

Nobull1
05-29-08, 07:49
I think after all th reviews I would have tried to find a better place. Is this place always been this bad or is just something going on at this particular time? Its sad as the MP are falling apart at the seams. I only know of 1 or 2 I can recommend.

Happy Hunting..

In case you didn't know, it was the person, not the place who gave you the bad service. Lilly at Ginza is still good.

MoonlightBiker
05-29-08, 08:50
I think after all th reviews I would have tried to find a better place. Is this place always been this bad or is just something going on at this particular time? Its sad as the MP are falling apart at the seams. I only know of 1 or 2 I can recommend.

Happy Hunting..

The place used to be great but, even before the bust, has been headed down hill for a while. Even with Lilly, who is very good but not great, they were still dealing with being dirty, too cold, and a bit sloppy when it comes to leaving the door open some and the lights up to high. But now this new woman has taken them to a new low. Somebody is going to get hurt by this beast.

R Consultant
05-29-08, 09:19
Its getting close to summer time and I start heading to Orlando to spend some money at the parks and I like to know where I can spend some night time hours. So thanks for the clarification as we all would like to know the do's and dont's and stay the heck away.

Happy Hunting..


In case you didn't know, it was the person, not the place who gave you the bad service. Lilly at Ginza is still good.

Wlord
05-29-08, 09:25
I hit up a place on Semoran, near where Ginza is, but a bit farther up the road. Didn't manage to catch the name of the place, but they had "Oriental Therapy" or something similar on the door. Neon lights, as well.

Went in, paid the door fee. They had a TS, which I always enjoy. Never caught the name of my therapist (I really need to pay more attention to these things! ), but she did a decent job cleaning me up, though I had to wash the undercarriage myself.

Went to the massage room, disrobed and we began. Massage was decent, not bad but nothing to write home about. I flipped over and she gave me a nice front massage. Had to direct her hands to make sure she got to a sore spot I had, but once she found it she did an excellent job relieving the pressure and tightness there.

I tipped. 2, thanked her and was on my way. Nice place, like the TS (my only gripe about NT is the lack of a TS), and good massage. Would repeat in a pinch.

Nobull1
05-29-08, 09:49
The place used to be great but, even before the bust, has been headed down hill for a while. But now this new woman has taken them to a new low. Somebody is going to get hurt by this beast.


I agree, mostly with the second comment. It's not an exaggeration. If you go to Ginza, call ahead, ask for Lilly. They aren't very busy during the day. Don't waste your time or money on the other person (the heavy one).

Exec Talent
05-29-08, 10:16
Major bump on Ginza. I will never return. I wasn't sure I'd make it out alive after my last visit. I was greeted at the door by a heavy Asian woman who liked to give me a look like, "are you LE?" many many many many many times. She left me standing in the front for a good 5 min which I absolutely hate. Then lots of questioning until she stepped into a room with Lilly and came back out saying, "Lilly says you are good man." Then she acted as slutty as a big cow can act.

The absolute worst part was the massage, if you can call it that. It started out with ice cold lotion being slapped on me and then smeared around, not rubbed or massaged. It was as if she were doing this for the first time. Then suddenly she would clamp down on a muscle and just squeeze the shit out of it. Then she'd lay on top of me. Several times actually. It was as if a buffalo suddenly decided to take a nap on top of me. It was horrible, but there was more to come. I don't know where the hell she came up with this but she would take her heavy weight fighter hands and make them into a fist and then drive them into my skull. I swear I almost stood up and punched her in her fat head.

Now just imagine this over weight woman with size 12 feet crawling up on the table to walk on your back. Hell I thought my shoulder was going to come out of joint when she landed on it.

Oh let's get to the hot rocks... First two scalding rocks were placed in the center of my back. Then they were taken away and cold dry rocks were used to rub all over me. I swear this woman is either the worst masseuse or she really hates men.

No negotiation at the end for me. Straight to it, but I don't know how you can call it a happy ending if you feel like you had a tooth knocked out and two arms broken. I went here because my back was killing me and I really needed a massage. I left with everything killing me.

The worst.

I feel your pain, but this has to be one of the funniest posts I have read in a long time. Can't wait for your next post. Hope it is a good experience!

John Terry
05-29-08, 11:04
All,

Went to place near my work. Requested for different masseuse ahead of time, as this place is known for having bigger girls. Girl provided to me was relatively big, probably in her late 30's. She feels me out a bit about whether I have seen her before. I say I have but she doesn't remember me. Tells me I can remove drape if it makes me more comfortable, so I do. She uses hot oil and really works my inner thighs, almost rubbing my balls. Massage was ok on the back, nothing great, but better than many AMPs I have been to. Get to the flip, she asks if we did full body before. I say yes and she proceeds to tease for a while. Very nice, prolonged technique. Offered topless for additional tip. She was a larger woman (I would guess about 165-180 lbs) so she had big tits. I declined as I had only brought standard tip with me. She takes her shirt off anyway and lets me feel her tits through the bra. Finishes me off (this is about half way or 2/3 through my hour). Then proceeds to finish the massage. Very good technique on the shoulders and head. Very relaxed. When finished, took a shower (private in room showers) to get the oil off.

This is the best place I have experienced in terms of service and price. 65 for massage, . 35 tip. If the girls were better looking, it would be great. I have never heard of anyone on this forum even mention it either. Always available, never a wait. Most important thing is to call ahead and exclude particular masseuse, who is huge (unless that is your thing). PM me for particulars.

John

Sponge Worthy
05-29-08, 14:01
Pardon my "interpretation" of the "spelling of his name" but perhaps it's not only me perhaps the Stanford Encyclopedia needs your expertise, my honorable Sponge http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/confucius/

Relax my friend there was no pun intended I just wrote that to alleviate the tension... you are still the man

No worries on my part. I'm a compulsively anal speller. :) At any rate, I've beat this horse long enough and don't mean to hurt anyone's feelings.

Now how do I get in contact with the folks at Sanford? I'd like to try some of those California AMP joints.

Stiffytwo
05-29-08, 17:00
Went to Lotus the other day, I was greeted at the door by a large gentleman, by the way he was very pleasant. I asked if Diva was there and she was so I paid and was led to a room. The massage was a good medium pressure then light pressure with Oil. Diva is a very nice girl who tries to please and does a great job. I would see her again when I go back.

Be careful out there syiffytwo

Gentleman 100
05-29-08, 19:42
All,

Went to place near my work. Requested for different masseuse ahead of time, as this place is known for having bigger girls. Girl provided to me was relatively big, probably in her late 30's. She feels me out a bit about whether I have seen her before. I say I have but she doesn't remember me. Tells me I can remove drape if it makes me more comfortable, so I do. She uses hot oil and really works my inner thighs, almost rubbing my balls. Massage was ok on the back, nothing great, but better than many AMPs I have been to. Get to the flip, she asks if we did full body before. I say yes and she proceeds to tease for a while. Very nice, prolonged technique. Offered topless for additional tip. She was a larger woman (I would guess about 165-180 lbs) so she had big tits. I declined as I had only brought standard tip with me. She takes her shirt off anyway and lets me feel her tits through the bra. Finishes me off (this is about half way or 2/3 through my hour). Then proceeds to finish the massage. Very good technique on the shoulders and head. Very relaxed. When finished, took a shower (private in room showers) to get the oil off.

This is the best place I have experienced in terms of service and price. 65 for massage, . 35 tip. If the girls were better looking, it would be great. I have never heard of anyone on this forum even mention it either. Always available, never a wait. Most important thing is to call ahead and exclude particular masseuse, who is huge (unless that is your thing). PM me for particulars.

John

Does this place have a name, or should we guess?

Gsh1920
05-29-08, 22:07
Does this place have a name, or should we guess? Sounds like winter park massage studio

Long time viewer first time poster here so sorry for holding back.

Yeah been there and don't like fat chicks. Just doesnt do it for me.

Savional1
05-29-08, 22:24
That place john is talking about is located in the park. The girl name is the same as a famous lesbian. I think we all have had a time or two with her. None of us were ever really proud enuff to brag about it.

Damn now I think of it I've had my share of "fuck, when this is over I'm never tellin a soul"

Uh-oh, was that TOOO much info?

VerySlowly
05-30-08, 07:59
That place john is talking about is located in the park. The girl name is the same as a famous lesbian. I think we all have had a time or two with her. None of us were ever really proud enuff to brag about it.

Damn now I think of it I've had my share of "fuck, when this is over I'm never tellin a soul"

Uh-oh, was that TOOO much info?

I had heard about said place from a masseus I used to go to regularly yrs.. ago, her name was Linda and she used to work from Her home on Semoran Blvd. Great chick but been gone for yrs.now.
She trained in said place.
So one night I decided to try it. I go in and the Co-Owner, the MOM (Sonny is gay) takes me back and I thought a girl was going to come in after her but Noooooooooo this was it!!

She proceed with great massage, a little rough to say the least but I real massage---don't ask about the HE I'm trying to block it out of my memory, but it did happen, I don't know how but it did happen O.M.G.----VS

I think I need a meeting---" Hello, My name is Very Slowly and I'm a sexaholic, I must be because a Great Grandma just gave me a Happy Ending"

R Consultant
05-30-08, 08:10
Now thats something funny to have some coffee and breakfast and wake up to as I look across the table and see these older ladies chattin away. Im thinking nahh its just not me.
I know of a buddy who went to a sex meeting to try and stop getting laid so much and dam he told me it got worse. Alot of these folks go to these meetings to find someone to get laid by. If theres any truth to that Im gonna have to scope out a few meetings myself.
Anyone ever been by chance?

BTW thanks VS that brighten my day.

Happy Hunting..



I had heard about said place from a masseus I used to go to regularly yrs.. ago, her name was Linda and she used to work from Her home on Semoran Blvd. Great chick but been gone for yrs.now.
She trained in said place.
So one night I decided to try it. I go in and the Co-Owner, the MOM (Sonny is gay) takes me back and I thought a girl was going to come in after her but Noooooooooo this was it!!

She proceed with great massage, a little rough to say the least but I real massage---don't ask about the HE I'm trying to block it out of my memory, but it did happen, I don't know how but it did happen O.M.G.----VS

I think I need a meeting---" Hello, My name is Very Slowly and I'm a sexaholic, I must be because a Great Grandma just gave me a Happy Ending"

Nobull1
05-30-08, 08:47
She proceed with great massage, a little rough to say the least but I real massage---don't ask about the HE I'm trying to block it out of my memory, but it did happen, I don't know how but it did happen O.M.G.----VS

I think I need a meeting---" Hello, My name is Very Slowly and I'm a sexaholic, I must be because a Great Grandma just gave me a Happy Ending"

There are some driveways that you want to back out of with your lights off.

Vertrag
05-30-08, 13:58
I hit up a place on Semoran, near where Ginza is, but a bit farther up the road. Didn't manage to catch the name of the place, but they had "Oriental Therapy" or something similar on the door. Neon lights, as well.Could this have been lotus? If Circuit City was just up the road about 100yds on the opposite side of the street it was. Lotus is, in general, recommended by those that frequent it.

Looop
05-30-08, 15:16
My first thought about John's report was that it could have been the place on Bumby. I had a very similar therapist a while back. I still shudder thinking about how much I lowered my standards that day. I wish I could say that I was drunk.

Jo Danie
05-30-08, 16:13
Does anyone know where a guy can get a massage with ALL the extras but not from an Asian? White or Latin possibly?

Please post.

Savional1
05-30-08, 20:17
Does anyone know where a guy can get a massage with ALL the extras but not from an Asian? White or Latin possibly?

Please post.Check out the Parliment House off OBT. One of the best massage places in Orlando I hear. You'll Definitely get a white or latino my friend.

Or you could just RTFF. That might save you some time.

MoonlightBiker
05-30-08, 20:38
Does anyone know where a guy can get a massage with ALL the extras but not from an Asian? White or Latin possibly?

Please post.

Let me get right on that for you.

Ron News
05-30-08, 23:38
Could this have been lotus? If Circuit City was just up the road about 100yds on the opposite side of the street it was. Lotus is, in general, recommended by those that frequent it.

No, it's a low-key place in a "plaza" the other side of 17/92. I see it when I go by but can never remember the name. It has been reviewed several times here.

BlackHawk101
05-31-08, 01:11
I had MIMI the last time I was there. Almost as good as the Ginza was before the bust but more pricey.

Great TS, Great massage and walk on back but no stones. I left with a smile on my face.

Otownstamina
05-31-08, 02:12
Omfg. I just had that same experience, but how about after my back was crushed, she asked me to walk on her back. I first though "are you serious". So I asked her, are you kidding or are you for real. She said yes, walk on her back. Mind you, that she was mad cause my tip wasn't going to be up to her par, but she asked me to walk on her back. So I did. Walked on her back for about a good 15 minutes and all I can say is "wow". No wonder why she crushes your back, can take some right back at her. I felt weird on her, but I said "your fat ass was on me, so now I'll show you what it feels like". When I got down, she told me to lay back down. Place was empty so I guess she didn't care. So I left happy while twins her twins, denise and debby, were out from under the top. Nice and soft.


Major bump on Ginza. I will never return. I wasn't sure I'd make it out alive after my last visit. I was greeted at the door by a heavy Asian woman who liked to give me a look like, "are you LE? " many many many many many times. She left me standing in the front for a good 5 min which I absolutely hate. Then lots of questioning until she stepped into a room with Lilly and came back out saying, "Lilly says you are good man. " Then she acted as slutty as a big cow can act.

The absolute worst part was the massage, if you can call it that. It started out with ice cold lotion being slapped on me and then smeared around, not rubbed or massaged. It was as if she were doing this for the first time. Then suddenly she would clamp down on a muscle and just squeeze the shit out of it. Then she'd lay on top of me. Several times actually. It was as if a buffalo suddenly decided to take a nap on top of me. It was horrible, but there was more to come. I don't know where the hell she came up with this but she would take her heavy weight fighter hands and make them into a fist and then drive them into my skull. I swear I almost stood up and punched her in her fat head.

Now just imagine this over weight woman with size 12 feet crawling up on the table to walk on your back. Hell I thought my shoulder was going to come out of joint when she landed on it.

Oh let's get to the hot rocks. First two scalding rocks were placed in the center of my back. Then they were taken away and cold dry rocks were used to rub all over me. I swear this woman is either the worst masseuse or she really hates men.

No negotiation at the end for me. Straight to it, but I don't know how you can call it a happy ending if you feel like you had a tooth knocked out and two arms broken. I went here because my back was killing me and I really needed a massage. I left with everything killing me.

The worst.

Steven Jones
05-31-08, 02:54
No, it's a low-key place in a "plaza" the other side of 17/92. I see it when I go by but can never remember the name. It has been reviewed several times here.Tokyo Spa on 17-92?

Bigaldb
05-31-08, 09:31
No, it's a low-key place in a "plaza" the other side of 17/92. I see it when I go by but can never remember the name. It has been reviewed several times here.Sounds like Oriental Healing Therapy in Indian Hills Plaza, just across from Dunking Donuts on 436. Haven't visited for awhile but it's still there.

Ron News
05-31-08, 22:18
Sounds like Oriental Healing Therapy in Indian Hills Plaza, just across from Dunking Donuts on 436. Haven't visited for awhile but it's still there.That's it.

Meeting Fun4
06-01-08, 12:23
Had an appointment with Teresa this week. As others have said she is a busy woman but work your schedule with hers and it's worth the effort. She is a beautiful, lovely woman and as she says this is her passion. The atmoshpere is very relaxing like a massage should be and she is also wonderful to talk to. Can't say enough about her other than I wish I had more time to spend with her.

Tytn8525
06-03-08, 20:08
Had an appointment with Teresa this week. As others have said she is a busy woman but work your schedule with hers and it's worth the effort. She is a beautiful, lovely woman and as she says this is her passion. The atmoshpere is very relaxing like a massage should be and she is also wonderful to talk to. Can't say enough about her other than I wish I had more time to spend with her.so, was it all just legit massage/cmt? what did you fork over and what did it get you? help us out here :)

LuvumBare
06-04-08, 18:27
I want to thank the members who PM'd me with some details and locations.

Did not participate while in Orlaando because the price:performance ratio is way out of whack compared to my home area in South Jersey. Anyine visiting South Jersey can feel free to PM me and I'll try to help. Also, we have a good local board -bestgfedotcom. Check it out for more information.

One question - I was in downtown and noticed a very large Vietnamese area, almost a little Saigon. I find it hard to believe that there are no LBFM's available in that neighbourhood. What is the story?
'bare

Darkpassenger
06-04-08, 19:06
Does anyone know where a guy can get a massage with ALL the extras but not from an Asian? White or Latin possibly?

Please post.Over on the left coast (Hudson) the place is Dusk Til Dawn, the lady is K****; you get bathed with hot soapy water for a long time, and then you get massaged for an hour, and just when you figure her poor hands will fall off from her exertions (and if she doesn't smell any pork thereabouts) and really think you've gotten your $80 worth, for enough extra tip once business is done you get one hell of a happy ending off the clock.

This isn't anything funny or illegal: she's just a very easilly warmed up girl who loves men who are nice to her and appreciate her, and she's not afraid to show it once the contracted service is done and you are nice and clean and relaxed.

The key is be nice to her.

Dragonfly08
06-04-08, 19:53
'bare,

I live in the area of 'Little Saigon' that you mentioned. Here is the story as far as I know:

Green T Spa (about 1 mile west of little Saigon on Colonial)
Average/below average looking therapists, lackluster massage. It seems they have been spooked by the latest round of busts in Seminole county. I went there before and got extras, the second and third time no extras.

Mai Thai Massage (smack in little Saigon)
I have never gotten extras here, but I have gotten multiple damn good massages. YMMV it seems that back in the day there were extras to be had at this place. Maybe someone else can comment. I have only been in Orlando for a few years.

Massage by Shouwa (about 1 mile north of little Saigon on Mills)
An asian woman owns this place, and she rotates out Russian and Chinese therapists. YMMV. I have gotten extras here before from the owner.

European Massage (about 1/2 mile east of little Saigon on Bumby/Mount Vernon). 2 words: stay away. Chubby homely therapists, so so massage. No extras (not that you would want them)

Natural Therapies (about 1 mile south of little Saigon on Mills)
There are multiple reports on Natural Therapies (NT) on this board.

Thats all I can think of off the top of my head.

TravelingVoye
06-05-08, 00:03
Tytn8525 - He provided all the info you need - nice lady, nice massage, would repeat. Not everyone feels comfortable providing much more level of detail. She is mature, but she's been a mainstay of mine - you can get pics and pricing (I think) at healinghandsbyteresadotcom



so, was it all just legit massage/cmt? what did you fork over and what did it get you? help us out here :)

LuvumBare
06-05-08, 09:13
Thanks for the 411.
I will return in late August and may give these a sin. Is the pricing the same as the spots in tourist town?
'bare

Nobull1
06-05-08, 13:55
Thanks for the 411.
I will return in late August and may give these a sin. Is the pricing the same as the spots in tourist town?
'bare

What prices did you learn of in "tourist town?" Usually, in the main part town it's 80 for one hour, plus tip, which varies according to the customer.

John Terry
06-05-08, 15:45
Funny you mention this place. My sister lives in Hudson off of SR 52 and 19. Passed by this place on my recent visit and was curious about it. Thought it looked a bit sketchy from the outside. My understanding is that they offer a lot of services there, not just massage and bath. Seemed like some weird BDSM type place. Anyway, I might check it out when I am over next. Are the ladies kind of white trashy? I would imagine from the area.


Over on the left coast (Hudson) the place is Dusk Til Dawn, the lady is K****; you get bathed with hot soapy water for a long time, and then you get massaged for an hour, and just when you figure her poor hands will fall off from her exertions (and if she doesn't smell any pork thereabouts) and really think you've gotten your $80 worth, for enough extra tip once business is done you get one hell of a happy ending off the clock.

This isn't anything funny or illegal: she's just a very easilly warmed up girl who loves men who are nice to her and appreciate her, and she's not afraid to show it once the contracted service is done and you are nice and clean and relaxed.

The key is be nice to her.

Topquark
06-06-08, 05:27
Hi all,

I'm passing through this way, and wanted to ask the locals:

If you only have one attempt, what's the best bet for a completely satisfying MP visit with a reasonably attractive therapist?

Should I go with Dragonfly's Saigon list (I'll be east-side) , or is there a clear first choice?

Thankya,

'Quark

Nobull1
06-06-08, 18:36
Hi all,

I'm passing through this way, and wanted to ask the locals:

. . . is there a clear first choice?

Thankya,

'Quark


None that I know of.

Phatpistol
06-06-08, 18:48
Hi all,

I'm passing through this way, and wanted to ask the locals:

If you only have one attempt, what's the best bet for a completely satisfying MP visit with a reasonably attractive therapist?

Should I go with Dragonfly's Saigon list (I'll be east-side) , or is there a clear first choice?

Thankya,

'Quark

If you seek it you will find it already posted on this board

Big Mula
06-07-08, 19:06
Greetings,

Thanks to all contributors for great info here. I am visiting from Canada for few days. I searched this forum but couldn't get useful info. I 'd appreciate if someone could point me to to a Russian or European Therapist (legit or not) she could be at AMP or from CL with in/ out calls.

I would really appreciate if you can share any info,$, maybe a pic?

(p.s I don't discriminate when it comes to women but in my experience Russians and Eastern Europeans waste less time in talking and upselling maybe cuz of language barriers and are more liberal)

feel free to pm.

Thanks very much,

Big

PeterPiper52
06-07-08, 19:24
Funny you mention this place. My sister lives in Hudson off of SR 52 and 19. Passed by this place on my recent visit and was curious about it. Thought it looked a bit sketchy from the outside. My understanding is that they offer a lot of services there, not just massage and bath. Seemed like some weird BDSM type place. Anyway, I might check it out when I am over next. Are the ladies kind of white trashy? I would imagine from the area.I live just north of Hudson. Dusk til Dawn is VERY HIT AND MISS, mostly miss. Like any other shop, they work for tips and will nag you. I've only been there once and did not partake in any extra curricular activities. I have spoken with others over here and they say the same thing. Most of the girls are not worth looking at. Either fat, or getting ready to apply for Medicare.

I've had better luck in the strip clubs here. A couple that I really like are The Brass Flamingo in Port Richey on US 19 and the Emperors Club in Holiday also on US19. Lollipops in Hudson can be a lot of fun, but the dancers tend to be on the skanky side, although I have had some very hot times with some very hot girls there. Same goes for The Players Club. All of these SC's are on US19 beginning around the Pasco/Hernando county line (Players Club and Lollipops), and south down to the Pinellas county line.

MikeInBrazil
06-07-08, 19:48
"I must have a big tattoo stamped on my forehead that says 5-0"

Decided to give NT on Mills a shot, the place is somewhat hard to see. I was looking for the typical massage parlor setup but I found no blink neons anywhere. Turns out its right near the YMCA down there. When I entered an attractive late 20's or early 30's girl asked what I was looking for. I decided to give the $80 hour deal. The room was clean looking and very comfortable. The massage was one of the best massages i've ever had she really knew how to work out every kink in my body, unfortuantly I didn't leave as happy as I would have liked to. BTW her name was Linda. I actually tipped her $20 because the massage was soo damn good.

After feeling a lil cheated I didn't leave as happy as I would have liked to I decided drive all the way to Lotus considering this has always been a great time. When I arrived I asked for my favorite, Elizabeth. Apparently she left a few months ago for Cali. The owner told me two other girls were working, Jayden and April. April wasn't available but Jayden was. I decided to take the half hour deal for $50 considering I just got a massage and was just looking for a good ending to this massage. The massage itself was so so, then at the end she said we are done. I had this look like someone shot my puppy but she didn't say or motion about extras being available. I was sure there would be considering how good Lotus has been in the past plus she was a lil older at around late 30s. Normally you would think the older ones would be doing something else... geesh!!

Film5947
06-07-08, 21:09
Do not go there! They hired some crack hore off the street to do the massages! Just plain nasty!

The woman stank! I had to run out of there and got my money back!

Sexybldbbwfl
06-07-08, 21:20
Mike,

Come see me baby and I will wash that off your forehead. That is just wrong. Two women all over your body in one day and no love. Every man needs two things, oral and silence. A good woman can give both at the same time.

Debbie

MoonlightBiker
06-07-08, 21:33
Mike,

Come see me baby and I will wash that off your forehead. That is just wrong. Two women all over your body in one day and no love. Every man needs two things, oral and silence. A good woman can give both at the same time.

Debbie

Problem solved!

FloridaBum
06-07-08, 22:43
I went to NT for the 1st time 2 weeks ago. It was a Saturday and I went early and was the only one there (no other cars).

I was greeted by Linda too. Very cute, nice tight jeans and tank top. She had a petite body and just the right curves. Cute ass too.

I paid for the hour and got undressed and waited for her. When she came in, she asked me to lay down as I was sitting up. I asked about the table shower (assumed there was one). She said they don't have those, but they do have body scrubs and it is $20 more. I said sure and she brought out a bucket as has been mentioned in previous posts. Basically it is a five minute rub with some type of a rough pad. Can't be comared to typical body washes.

Anyways, she started the massage, and it wasnt bad. Not as much teasing as I like, but I made her know of my interest with my wandering hands. She did not seem to mind so I did not stop. I had my hands wherever they could reach.

When the massage was over, she told me "finished". I didn't move and let her know it was not over. Then some weird stuff happened. She took a large towel and covered my clothes. Later, after she briefly finished the massage, and cleaned me up with a paper towel, she gave it to me and said she can't throw it away there. I guess she was paranoid, but both of those actions were a first for me.

I probably wouldn't go back cause the massage wasnt the best for me, she wasnt enough of a tease in her massage and the hassle at the end was kind of annoying. In terms of looks however, I would probably rate her a 9 as compared to other AMP's. She did not seem like a typical "off the boat" asian. She seemed as though she must have grown up here, modern, hip, sexy. Like an oriental girl that you would see in downtown on a Saturday night.

Anyways, sorry you had 2 bad experiences.


"I must have a big tattoo stamped on my forehead that says 5-0"

Decided to give NT on Mills a shot, the place is somewhat hard to see. I was looking for the typical massage parlor setup but I found no blink neons anywhere. Turns out its right near the YMCA down there. When I entered an attractive late 20's or early 30's girl asked what I was looking for. I decided to give the $80 hour deal. The room was clean looking and very comfortable. The massage was one of the best massages I've ever had she really knew how to work out every kink in my body, unfortuantly I didn't leave as happy as I would have liked to. BTW her name was Linda. I actually tipped her $20 because the massage was soo damn good.

Lexo1014
06-08-08, 11:49
Its been a while so I'm posting last 3-4 experiences with AMPs.

Asashi;

Gave it a try again after many months. Had a little older woman named Happy give me a Hour Massage. Table shower was good, nice subtle hand sliding between legs to touch the boys and of course I let her know that I liked it. When she washed the front there was a movement LOL she noticed and washed ole buddy vigorously then started telling ole buddy to relax that she'll take care of him later. So I figured this is going to go pretty good.

The massage was ok, some spots she hit good some she didn't. Hands could roam freely without a problem. On the flip after a light frontal massage, she turned down the lights locked the door then asked how much money you have for me? LOL I said what you do for me? So we went back and forth with this till I motioned for her to disrobe and HE for. 6 which to me was quite expensive.

All in all it wasnt to bad there just asking for a little to much up at that place, but I did leave happy.

7-SPA

Actually was just looking for a real massage had visited there many months ago and didn't care for it so I gave it another go. Was a korean girl named June, Decent table shower, Massage well some might not like it its kinda hard but she will ease up just by letting her know, but she knows how to bend, flex and work knots out, and afterwards the bod feels real good. Extras? Don't know on my first visit I tried many times to let the hands roam, she tactfully shifts her body just enuff to be out of reach, heck I even flat out asked her but she stated no and I respect that. Massage was good for me on second visit same great massage no extras but she seems to be warming up a little bit. I'll continue to go just for the massage tho she is pretty good for me anyway.

NT

Maybe 6-8 weeks ago, got tracy same as always seems only 1 person there so always has to leave to answer the phone or door. Massage was not to bas actually did good on the head and face. Standard hand signals for what you want. Hands can definantly roam and she encourages it.

Thats it gunna cut it short all this typing I have caught a cramp and need to go get a masssage.))

Fluxaeon
06-08-08, 20:25
So, I tried another new therapist who stood me up in Longwood (another story) and with time on my hands I went to Shiatsu Therapy. I had been there before and when Mamasan started ripping on me I left. This time she was sweet as pie. I was taken to a relatively clean room with clean sheets and no boccoli or cabbage being cooked like Ginzu always had. I was paired with a therapist named "Park". She was in a polka dot dress with a halter top. A little unusual. She drove me crazy with hard candy in her mouth that she clacked and slurped through out the entire massage. She demanded the $80 up front didn't ask. The massage was lame. A 5 out of 10. She really just roamed around w/o any idea of what to do. The flip came and she asked "How much do you have to spend on him? " pointing at my penis. I said "how bout $60? ". She said "Where do you think you are? " I said "Well, then let's just forget it". She then said OK and put her hand out. I had to get up and get it from my pants. She says this better be over fast. Not a great way to help my erection. She then finished up and practically threw me out the front door. She told me to bring more money next time. I don't think she should hold her breath. Needless to say I won't go back.

Snake12
06-08-08, 20:26
You say, "HE for .6". I know that HE stands for Happy Ending, however, you and others here seem to use HE interchangeably for the more descriptive HJ (Hand Job). Did you really pay .6 for a hand job, or is there more to the story? No wonder the lady is happy if she gets .6 for a HJ.

Asashi;

Gave it a try again after many months. Had a little older woman named Happy give me a Hour Massage. Table shower was good, nice subtle hand sliding between legs to touch the boys and of course I let her know that I liked it. When she washed the front there was a movement LOL she noticed and washed ole buddy vigorously then started telling ole buddy to relax that she'll take care of him later. So I figured this is going to go pretty good.

The massage was ok, some spots she hit good some she didn't. Hands could roam freely without a problem. On the flip after a light frontal massage, she turned down the lights locked the door then asked how much money you have for me? LOL I said what you do for me? So we went back and forth with this till I motioned for her to disrobe and HE for. 6 which to me was quite expensive.

John Terry
06-09-08, 13:09
Thanks for the info on Lollipops. I had thought of stopping in there before. Have always enjoyed bare assets in Holiday, although more expensive. PM me about pricing and mileage in the club, as I don't want to talk SC in the AMP forum out of respect for other members.


I live just north of Hudson. Dusk til Dawn is VERY HIT AND MISS, mostly miss. Like any other shop, they work for tips and will nag you. I've only been there once and did not partake in any extra curricular activities. I have spoken with others over here and they say the same thing. Most of the girls are not worth looking at. Either fat, or getting ready to apply for Medicare.

I've had better luck in the strip clubs here. A couple that I really like are The Brass Flamingo in Port Richey on US 19 and the Emperors Club in Holiday also on US19. Lollipops in Hudson can be a lot of fun, but the dancers tend to be on the skanky side, although I have had some very hot times with some very hot girls there. Same goes for The Players Club. All of these SC's are on US19 beginning around the Pasco/Hernando county line (Players Club and Lollipops), and south down to the Pinellas county line.

John Terry
06-09-08, 13:10
Just wanted people to know they closed this weekend. Guess the pinch was getting to them. Plus, if you didn't know it was there, you have never seen it in the shopping center.

Neon1
06-09-08, 16:50
Whats up with this place? Is it just opening? Just noticed the sign for it right out at 436 as soon as your getting off I4, Altamonte Exit.

Exec Talent
06-09-08, 17:05
So, I tried another new therapist who stood me up in Longwood (another story) and with time on my hands I went to Shiatsu Therapy. I had been there before and when Mamasan started ripping on me I left. This time she was sweet as pie. I was taken to a relatively clean room with clean sheets and no boccoli or cabbage being cooked like Ginzu always had. I was paired with a therapist named "Park". She was in a polka dot dress with a halter top. A little unusual. She drove me crazy with hard candy in her mouth that she clacked and slurped through out the entire massage. She demanded the $80 up front didn't ask. The massage was lame. A 5 out of 10. She really just roamed around w/o any idea of what to do. The flip came and she asked "How much do you have to spend on him? " pointing at my penis. I said "how bout $60? ". She said "Where do you think you are? " I said "Well, then let's just forget it". She then said OK and put her hand out. I had to get up and get it from my pants. She says this better be over fast. Not a great way to help my erection. She then finished up and practically threw me out the front door. She told me to bring more money next time. I don't think she should hold her breath. Needless to say I won't go back.

What an awful experience. Thanks for letting us know. Now none of us need to go there.

John Terry
06-10-08, 13:14
They post on therapeutic CL. The post says they have a dude and a chick working. Not sure about service provided


Whats up with this place? Is it just opening? Just noticed the sign for it right out at 436 as soon as your getting off I4, Altamonte Exit.

Clinton Bush
06-11-08, 23:54
So, I tried another new therapist who stood me up in Longwood (another story) and with time on my hands I went to Shiatsu Therapy. I had been there before and when Mamasan started ripping on me I left. This time she was sweet as pie. I was taken to a relatively clean room with clean sheets and no boccoli or cabbage being cooked like Ginzu always had. I was paired with a therapist named "Park". She was in a polka dot dress with a halter top. A little unusual. She drove me crazy with hard candy in her mouth that she clacked and slurped through out the entire massage. She demanded the $80 up front didn't ask. The massage was lame. A 5 out of 10. She really just roamed around w/o any idea of what to do. The flip came and she asked "How much do you have to spend on him? " pointing at my penis. I said "how bout $60? ". She said "Where do you think you are? " I said "Well, then let's just forget it". She then said OK and put her hand out. I had to get up and get it from my pants. She says this better be over fast. Not a great way to help my erection. She then finished up and practically threw me out the front door. She told me to bring more money next time. I don't think she should hold her breath. Needless to say I won't go back.

Because I'm guessing with that attitude she hasn't got a tip in 10 years. A great lesson on how NOT to get repeat business. Thanks for TOFTT.

CB

Snake12
06-12-08, 06:27
Just wanted people to know they closed this weekend. Guess the pinch was getting to them. Plus, if you didn't know it was there, you have never seen it in the shopping center.

Drove by last night, didn't have chance to stop, but the "Open" light was lit. Maybe they didn't close after all. At one time this was one of the best Amps for extras.

Guy Nuoir
06-12-08, 08:52
Despite the recent harrassment of the AMPS, there are still some good finds at some of the "older" places that have been posted as not offering extras. Extras can be had if they recognize you as a former patron, some of the mammasans are back. I'm reluctant to post names since any mention of the good service AMPs seems to poison the well. I advise stopping by some places that had good reviews a year or two ago, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Guy

Rooster8802
06-12-08, 10:01
Just wanted people to know they closed this weekend. Guess the pinch was getting to them. Plus, if you didn't know it was there, you have never seen it in the shopping center.I called them on Sunday, last weekend (same as your post). She was open, but was closing early. Maybe that was why it was closed when you went by or called?

Cassberry
06-13-08, 18:52
I thought I would go to an old stand by on 17-92 I asked for the girl I had seen several times in the past not really expecting her to be there anymore, Sure enough No not here. But. I think if you have a name that is real and this opens the doors easier. The girl was typical Asian about a 6 on the AMP scale but with large REAL boobs. Table shower was uneventful but I tried to convey an openness that I think got across when things came to attention on the towel off. Then I thought things when going down hill when the whole message was through a drape. Well wasn't I surprised when the gentle part came and her cloths came off without me asking. Not the greatest body but still a pleasant surprise. The flip was great too. The only thing I didn't care for is this:

I rarely tip more than $40. If I agree before to a certain service that is different. This was worth $40 hands down. But when I gave her $40 she pouted and since I am a damn softy I gave her another $20 and that made her happy.

Well good luck be safe.

BlackHawk101
06-14-08, 18:19
From my travels Orlandos AMPs are pretty tame.

A little Rub and tug is all I have ever seen offered if I'm lucky.
However, 95% of the massges have bee 110% fantastic.

I'm not sure why the locale LE would be after these women if that's all that is happening. They give some of the best Massage service in the country. I pay the same $80 price for a ligit massage 1 hour service every where you travel.
With the problems on OBT, Creigslist, backpage etc it would seam that locale LE would be going after the women providing full service and passing on social STDs.
In other parts of the country you hope for an ok massage from an AMP but know you will get full service. In Orlando I've been to 3 different AMPs and not once did I think I was going to get full service.
LE go catch real bad guys like the Pimps, robbers, killers etc.

Cum To Papa
06-16-08, 13:33
Happened to be in Longwood area Friday, and really had a headache coming on from stress in the shoulders and back. Stopped by the Longwood Massage on 434. With the spate of recent activity in recent memory, I was not expecting much in the way of extras, but really needed a good massage. Met Susie. Got just exactly what I expected (drape and all). $60 for 1/2 hr, $85 for hr. Sometimes you get what you pay for. Since I got a very good massage, can't say I TOFTT, but was still disappointed that there was not even a hint of extras; so be it.

Clinton Bush
06-16-08, 19:44
Happened to be in Longwood area Friday, and really had a headache coming on from stress in the shoulders and back. Stopped by the Longwood Massage on 434. With the spate of recent activity in recent memory, I was not expecting much in the way of extras, but really needed a good massage. Met Susie. Got just exactly what I expected (drape and all). $60 for 1/2 hr, $85 for hr. Sometimes you get what you pay for. Since I got a very good massage, can't say I TOFTT, but was still disappointed that there was not even a hint of extras; so be it.I think you need to travel down I-4 to Tampa/St Pete. Doesn't sound like much is available at the AMPS in OTown.

CB

Smitty Smitt
06-18-08, 00:21
They post on therapeutic CL. The post says they have a dude and a chick working. Not sure about service providedTOFTT tonight.

Stopped in Island Therapy tonight. Cute asian girl, very friendly, and very professional. I only got the 1/2 hour for $60, basic massage, no extras on the menu.

Otown Jbird
06-18-08, 11:11
Been awhile since I have gone anywhere it seems

Called to see if jenny was available, and of course she no longer works there so I figured what the hell I'll just check someone new out. And I am glad I did, I met hannah and she is awesome, small little spinner and really sweet. The table shower was very thorough and nice, and the massage was decent she is very thorough and sweet and thats all I got!

Have fun out there kids!

Otjb

Bone Yard
06-19-08, 18:21
I was sitting in the Dunkin Donuts across from Indian Hills Plaza having my afternoon tea. As I was gazing out the window, a neon sign caught my eye, and like a tractor beam, began to pull me across 436 and into Oriental Healing Therapy. After depositing. 8 at the door, I was led back for my TS and later my massage. Ruby did a nice job at both, especially this scalp massage thing she does. I guess the roast pork I had earlier for lunch was still emanating from my pores, so the smell kept Ruby at bay. Perhaps next time.

Let's be careful out there!

Bone Yard
06-19-08, 23:19
Saw this one in Orlando Weekly and decided to give it a try. Definitely not a bad looking Asian therapist. Good rub. Coco also does deep tissue for .1 more but that's the extent of her services. .5 for a half, .75 for an hour and no table shower. There is a shower in the bathroom that is available.

Let's be careful out there!

Fluxaeon
06-20-08, 18:10
I visited Shanghai a few years ago when they first opened and it was a nice place. She was in partnership with another Asian named Yvonne. I had a massage for $65 form Yvonne and Coco came in for a 4 hand massage with a great HE/HJ with prostate rub. I visited several more times. Then, the price went to $75 and Yvonne left and Coco would only do a straight massage. I last saw Coco about 6 months ago and before the massage started I asked if a HE was included. Rather than giving me a yes or no answer, she unloaded on me about how that's all men wanted etc. I told her she might consider taking a break and I left. I haven't be back since. Coco does give a good massage a 8 out of 10. She does a circular type movement that is constant and must be very physically demanding. She hates to talk with her clients which may be a language thing.

Clinton Bush
06-20-08, 19:08
I was sitting in the Dunkin Donuts across from Indian Hills Plaza having my afternoon tea........ I guess the roast pork I had earlier for lunch was still emanating from my pores, so the smell kept Ruby at bay.

Hmmm..... "sitting at Dunkin Donuts", "roast pork eminating from my pores"
You aren't related to Uncle LEO are you? Hahaha.

Stay safe.

CB

Bone Yard
06-22-08, 07:23
Too funny! That's what I get for trying to be creative in my reports! I'm going back to dull and to the point!

And no, I'm not the one that is asking strange questions about NT and others!

Let's be careful out there!


Hmmm..... "sitting at Dunkin Donuts", "roast pork eminating from my pores"
You aren't related to Uncle LEO are you? Hahaha.

Stay safe.

CB

Exec Talent
06-22-08, 16:08
Lilly is working alone at Ginza these days but she gives an outstanding massage. If you are looking for extras I would look elsewhere but is you want a first rate massage, then I would definitely recommend Lilly at Ginza.

Fluxaeon
06-22-08, 18:10
I think the slap around massage Lilly gives is the worst I have ever had. I felt like a punching bag. Several other members have mentioned the same thing. To each his own.

Exec Talent
06-23-08, 04:49
I think the slap around massage Lilly gives is the worst I have ever had. I felt like a punching bag. Several other members have mentioned the same thing. To each his own.

Get your facts straight. That was not Lilly but another woman who worked there.

Gentleman 100
06-23-08, 06:35
I visited Touch of Asia recently. My 2 usual therapists no longer work there. In fact the latino hostesses that usually are there are gone as well.

What appears to have happened, is that they now have an all Asian female staff. I met the proprietor, who is very professional, and was treated with respect. This was my first visit to the new, larger facility (next door).

Most of the therapists were busy with clients, so I got the one that was on deck. She did a thorough job of massaging and I did not have to ask her to massage areas that really needed attention.

I left very happy. I would definitely recommend this place if you are a little gun shy about the Longwood area. The only negative is that they still do not have a T.S. It would be a superior place if they had one.

Assa is still the best place (IMHO) in S. Orlando for a good massage with T.S.

Be safe and careful: always.

Nobull1
06-23-08, 07:28
I think the slap around massage Lilly gives is the worst I have ever had. I felt like a punching bag. Several other members have mentioned the same thing. To each his own.

Wrong! No other member mentioned the same thing. Only you. Lilly was not the person who reportedly gave the horrendous massage, if that's what it was called. I too reported of a bad experience, and it was from another lady at Ginza who apparently is no longer there. I had several sessions with Lilly and she did excellent legit work.

MoonlightBiker
06-23-08, 07:43
I think the slap around massage Lilly gives is the worst I have ever had. I felt like a punching bag. Several other members have mentioned the same thing. To each his own.

That wasn't Lilly. Lilly would NEVER do a slap around massage. She gives a great massage when she's not busy running out to answer the door or pick up the phone.

Film5947
06-23-08, 15:28
Please dismiss info on NT it was wrong!

I made mistake the info!

Sorry!

Film5947
06-23-08, 15:58
I want to reiterate that the info that I got from NT was wrong!

They are not under investigation. They are all good and Professional therapist!

This not the place! This is place very professional!

Great staff!

I made a big mistake by using bad information!

I am sorry to all you guys for this information!

This place in once of my favorite places for good professional massage!

They are all great people and the staff is fantastic!

Sorry any misunderstanding!

I told the Moderator to delete that false report!

Clinton Bush
06-23-08, 16:49
That wasn't Lilly. Lilly would NEVER do a slap around massage. She gives a great massage when she's not busy running out to answer the door or pick up the phone."Leaving during the session". That is the one thing that really ruins the mood for me. I cannot stand to have a provider leave in the middle of the session to answer the door, answer the phone. Worse yet is to leave my session saying she has to go for a minute (I'm assuming bathroom here). Then she starts a table shower with another monger because they are short staffed.

I figured this out when I went down the hall to find her at the bathroom and saw another her leading another monger to the shower. (To be clear, this is just a general rant and this happened to me at a Tampa mp, not at Ginza).

For my 80 door fee, I expect full attention and not to be sharing another mongers "dna" during MY "hour massage session" (which very often is cut short to 30 minutes a lot of places, but that's another rant for another day)

CB

Michael Mayer
06-24-08, 06:28
I visited TOA last week and i was greeted by latino hostess. Although they dont have TS they at least have showers. I agree about the thoroughness of the massage; i received one from a latino woman with great tits.


I visited Touch of Asia recently. My 2 usual therapists no longer work there. In fact the latino hostesses that usually are there are gone as well.

What appears to have happened, is that they now have an all Asian female staff. I met the proprietor, who is very professional, and was treated with respect. This was my first visit to the new, larger facility (next door).

Most of the therapists were busy with clients, so I got the one that was on deck. She did a thorough job of massaging and I did not have to ask her to massage areas that really needed attention.

I left very happy. I would definitely recommend this place if you are a little gun shy about the Longwood area. The only negative is that they still do not have a T.S. It would be a superior place if they had one.

Assa is still the best place (IMHO) in S. Orlando for a good massage with T.S.

Be safe and careful: always.

Vertrag
06-24-08, 14:31
Visited Lotus recently - the normal provider wasn't there but met a new person, Nicole, (40s - my guess, nice rack, brown hair). She said she only worked M and W.

Massage was OK (6-7) - paid for 1/2 hour - was unrushed - I was there at least 35 min - and she was concerned about LEO. Another plus is that she stayed in the room during the entire massage.

Overall a good experience and I left happy.

R Consultant
06-25-08, 07:27
I hate to say it buts its a pretty common practice at the asian massage parlors. They run in and out at times--but I figured they are herding someone somewhere. Its kinda sick when you think "dna splooge" is running amuck. I wonder if theres truly a way to get them to pay more 1 0n 1 attention?

Happy Hunting..



"Leaving during the session". That is the one thing that really ruins the mood for me. I cannot stand to have a provider leave in the middle of the session to answer the door, answer the phone. Worse yet is to leave my session saying she has to go for a minute (I'm assuming bathroom here). Then she starts a table shower with another monger because they are short staffed.

I figured this out when I went down the hall to find her at the bathroom and saw another her leading another monger to the shower. (To be clear, this is just a general rant and this happened to me at a Tampa mp, not at Ginza).

For my 80 door fee, I expect full attention and not to be sharing another mongers "dna" during MY "hour massage session" (which very often is cut short to 30 minutes a lot of places, but that's another rant for another day)

CB

MoonlightBiker
06-25-08, 21:23
I wonder if theres truly a way to get them to pay more 1 0n 1 attention?

The size of your tip usually regulates this behavior. Normal or good tippers get normal or good treatment. GREAT tippers are quickly recognized and get excellent treatment. They however ruin it for everyone else by eventually driving the standard price up for everyone.

Fluxaeon
06-26-08, 17:36
It was Lilly and my facts were dead on. It really doesn't matter because the place is a loser. I won't be going back.

Ialwaystofft
06-26-08, 17:46
I went to see this girl

http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/732317301.html

but no extras were offered. I heard she used to have a pretty open menu. Anyone know what's her story? Any tips on how to crack her cookie?

Marine Matt
06-27-08, 09:03
I went to see this girl

http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/732317301.html

but no extras were offered. I heard she used to have a pretty open menu. Anyone know what's her story? Any tips on how to crack her cookie?How was she? Attractive? How was the Massage?

Ialwaystofft
06-27-08, 12:58
Marine Matt-

She's young, maybe 22 or 23. Nice tight body. Great hands. OK with nudity. Seems such a shame she didn't offer me anything.

Mr Orlando
06-27-08, 17:26
Is it rue she got busted?

Anyone know the details.

Film5947
06-27-08, 18:54
Please call me and tell where you are going work next or whatever!

I hope you read this!

My batteries ran out and I wanted to listen what you had to say!

It was very interesting!

I hope you Call!

U got my # so I hope to hear from you soon!

This might be my last post here!

Unless I try again tomorrow!

Gentleman 100
06-27-08, 22:33
I have 2 quick thoughts.

1. For those who are looking at getting a good massage and leaving satisfied, be a repeat client (4-5 times sometimes) and the service gets better each time.

If it does not eventually get better, look to another, well-reviewed place.

2. Some junior member postings: For those new to the forum, please be careful in your wording. LEO is everywhere and trying make our hobby more and more difficult.

I get concerned when people with only 2 postings ask for details. PM is for details, not this open forum. BTW, if you have only a few postings and try to PM me for details, my answer will either be a non-reply or a reply that you would hear a corporate lawyer give.

Other than that, have fun and be careful.

Fluxaeon
06-28-08, 05:55
I have been to Elizabeth 3 times. Her office is near Howell Branch and I believe it is Howell Lake Road, The road is under construction making it a pain to get to her place. She shares space with a Skin Care Specialist. The walls are paper thin which doesn't help. She doesn't care if you drape or not. The massage is good not the greatest, but good. A 7 out of 10. She ends right on time never any extra time. She is very friendly and commented that she liked my ink. She was having allergy problems the last time I was there and she repeatedly was sniffing her nose. She told me she was moving soon because of the price of the rent. I have asked her the first 2 times about HE or extras and she declined. She didn't get upset just said she doesn't do anything but massage. I asked if she got to know me better would she consider and she said the answer will still be "No".

Gentleman 100
06-29-08, 07:48
Has anyone been to Lotus in Altamonte Springs recently?

I am just curious if they have calmed down and started to provide great service again.

Feel free to PM me if you have current info. Thanks.

Clinton Bush
06-29-08, 10:08
I have been to Elizabeth 3 times. ..... She was having allergy problems the last time I was there and she repeatedly was sniffing her nose. She told me she was moving soon because of the price of the rent.....

Maybe not allergy problems at all....a nose problem + needs money could mean she will be expanding the menu. Perhaps extras will be available soon...

Regards,

CB

Fluxaeon
06-30-08, 12:39
Hey, you may be right.

Mfan2020
07-02-08, 14:51
Hey anyone have any info on this ad?

http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/732283964.html

Whiskeysours
07-02-08, 20:10
Liz, who now goes by "Elizabeth" used to work at Lotus, where, I understand, she offered a healthy menu. She left and started her own gig off Howell Branch Road and is now quite the prude. Draping is optional, but that's about it. I've read from others on this board that while at Lotus, she was quite the provider.

Hunterman007
07-06-08, 00:44
Liz is the same Elisabeth that used to work at Lotus for owners Deva (also goes by Jayden) and her husband Dirk (very werid euro guy) in Altamonte Springs. She's about 27-28 years old browns curly hair and has braces also wears eye glasses too. Has tatoo on one of her shoulders. Sort of has a poor white trash look. Up at lotus she used to offer nude h/e and full service, but not BJ, because of her braces. She said she would offer once she got them off. She is a little skiddish from the recent massage bust and also paranoid about her boy friend tracking her down at work. The only clients she's offering extras to as the ones shes met at lotus that has followed her to her new location. You might have luck if you say you recognize her form there (lotus).

Good luck.

Hunterman007
07-06-08, 08:33
Liz is the same Elizabeth that use to work at Lotus massage for owners Deva (also goes by Jayden) and her husband Dirk (a very weird euro guy), in Altamonte Springs. She's white/caucasian about 27-28 years old, brown curly hair, has braces and also wears glasses. Has a tattoo on one of her shoulders. Sort of has a poor white trash appearance. When she was at Lotus she offered nude he to full service, the only thing she didn't do was BJ's due to her braces which she said she would offer once they were taken off. She is a little skiddish from the recent massage busts and always paranoid about her boyfriend constantly tracking her down at work. The only clients she's offering extras to are the ones she's met at Lotus. You might have luck if you say you recognize her from there.

Fluxaeon
07-06-08, 18:46
Yes, you nailed it. That's her. She told me she was leaving her current location because of the rent. She will be sharing space with Susan Flitter on Highway 436 in Altamonte near Best Buy. Wow. I love this site. It is great to know the full story.

Orange Knight
07-06-08, 19:54
Responding to MFAN2020's request for info on a four-handed massage by Fiona and Lucia:

Have not experienced the four-handed massage but have had a massage from Fiona several months ago. Good legit massage. No extras asked for or offered.

The Best Nap
07-06-08, 22:09
Hey anyone have any info on this ad?

http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/732283964.htmlI did the double and I got a good massage from her and Lucia, but not extras. Kept the drape on. I expected more as I saw the ad in the erotic section and said so when I made my appointment. I was disappointed.

If I wanted a good massage, I'd go there again, if I want extras, I go elsewhere.

Steven Jones
07-07-08, 13:29
Can someone please post a phone number for Elizabeth?

Thanks

Redeyez
07-07-08, 20:00
Located 434 and 436 in Altamonte Springs.Apopka and Longwood area.

(407)435-2617 Lizwww.orlandotouch.com.

Whiskeysours
07-08-08, 20:31
Yes, you nailed it. That's her. She told me she was leaving her current location because of the rent. She will be sharing space with Susan Flitter on Highway 436 in Altamonte near Best Buy. Wow. I love this site. It is great to know the full story.I've seen Susan Flitter a few times in the past year. I found her in the phone book - she doesn't post on CL, or advertise in OW, etc. She's ok w/nudity as well, but that's it. Anyone have input?

Fluxaeon
07-10-08, 13:31
I went to see her about 2 years ago after another massage therapist told me about her. She was attractive, friendly and punctual. Her place is clean, well decorated like an Arabian Nights theme. The massage was good about a 8 of 10. When it was getting close to the end of the hour, I asked her about a HE and she told me no massage has a happy ending it's always sad. She told me she didn't offer that or any extra on the menu. I came back 1 or 2 more times but, then moved on.

Gentleman 100
07-12-08, 07:19
I decided to wait on trying Elizabeth until I hear a few more reports (especially from her Lotus regulars). I did not want to TOFTT.

I went to ToA. The pretty Latina hostess is from PR, and was a LMT there, but the test here is in English (her English is not so good). I encouraged her to take the test. BTW, she is pretty, but not a spinner, but to me, I could just look at her all day.

One bonus point: at ToA they no longer where those smocks/scrubs. They wear white polos and regular pants or shorts.

After I pay the house fee (.9), I am shown to one of the rooms. After a couple of minutes, K** walks in the room (she is the tne that looks like Aunt Esther from Sanford & Son (http://content.answers.com/main/content/wp/en/thumb/d/de/180px-Aunt_Esther.jpg), but she is thin.

The massage was 7/10, but I will bump it up to 8.5/10 because I left happy and satisfied. Tip: 4 for overall good service.

Be careful and have fun.

Gentleman 100
07-12-08, 07:22
If anyone that lives in the Altamonte area and wants to get a new report about Elizabeth, I would appreciate it. Her rates are low (.35 for 30, .5 for 60, and .8 for 90).

I would be interested in knowing if her technique has improved since Lotus or if she is just too paranoid to give good, tension-relieving service.

Have fun and be safe.

CoolinUSA
07-12-08, 10:14
Hi guys due to a little family crisis I have been away for a while and now that I'm back I have seen this post on CL Therapeutic that makes no sense to me. I emailed her to the CL email address and never got a response. Is this what I think it is just a scam/rip off? Your input is appreciated
CIU

http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/751152299.html

Prophotog
07-12-08, 11:29
Hi guys due to a little family crisis I have been away for a while and now that I'm back I have seen this post on CL Therapeutic that makes no sense to me. I emailed her to the CL email address and never got a response. Is this what I think it is just a scam/rip off? Your input is appreciated
CIU

http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/751152299.html

I wouldn't say it's a scam, as much as it's spam...

Fluxaeon
07-13-08, 16:27
I wouldn't say it's a scam, as much as it's spam...I have tried to contact this site on 3 occasions and never received an answer. She is either a "flake" or it's a scam.

Fellow Guy
07-14-08, 17:53
Hi guys due to a little family crisis I have been away for a while and now that I'm back I have seen this post on CL Therapeutic that makes no sense to me. I emailed her to the CL email address and never got a response. Is this what I think it is just a scam/rip off? Your input is appreciated.

CIUOh no, it can't be a scam. She clearly states that she is "in your local area." So she knows where you live, and she lives there, too!

I wonder how anyone tried to contact her--I can't see any link to contact anyone at the site. I did figure out how to register with the site. But that did nothing for me.

If this isn't a scam, I don't know what is.

Bklyn Born
07-18-08, 18:05
If anyone that lives in the Altamonte area and wants to get a new report about Elizabeth, I would appreciate it. Her rates are low (.35 for 30, .5 for 60, and .8 for 90).

I would be interested in knowing if her technique has improved since Lotus or if she is just too paranoid to give good, tension-relieving service.

Have fun and be safe.

G100,

Visited Liz today and there was no menu. Granted it was my first time with her, i did not get impression future visits would heed better results.
Massage was just good, at best.

BB

Bklyn Born
07-18-08, 18:11
Is it rue she got busted?

Anyone know the details.

Mr.O

I know her website and email are still functioning. Other than that i dont know.

BB

Gentleman 100
07-18-08, 18:20
G100,

Visited Liz today and there was no menu. Granted it was my first time with her, i did not get impression future visits would heed better results.
Massage was just good, at best.

BB

Thank you for the information. In a way I hope that she is 100% legit. I think she gives a good, relaxing massage, all in a good looking package. I have an appointment with her tomorrow. I will post what happened.

Be safe

Gentleman 100
07-19-08, 18:19
I saw Elizabeth today and I am convinced that she is 100% legit. If you want a good, legitimate massage, then she is the one.

As others have posted recently, there is no dessert menu. I would recommend going to an AMP if you want any extras.

I give the massage itself a higher rating than others: 9.5/10. I think that her technique has improved greatly since Lotus (IMHO).

Her place is small, but clean (shares space with another LMT). No rush and gave me 100% of the time I paid for. I shall return.

Bottom line: she is a good therapist and I recommend her for legitimate (no extras) massage.

Be safe.

Gentleman 100
07-19-08, 18:24
Well I was not done with my visits. I later visited an old stand-by, International Therapy (US 17/92 near Thurston's). I have been a few times, and almost all visits I get dessert.

Today J**** was on deck. Thin, Korean spinner (a little pouch, but that's okay). The TS was thorough. Good Asian service on the massage. I left happy and satisfied.

House: .8
Tip: .2 (lower than my normal tip: her technique was a little rushed*).

*Compared to Elizabeth.

Take care and be safe.

Mr Orlando
07-19-08, 20:19
Mr.O

I know her website and email are still functioning. Other than that i dont know.

BBShe didn't get busted foir menu items. she got busted for not having a massage lic. She is facing a felony charge.

Alexis got busted with the same charge and is getting jail time.

be safe

Gentleman 100
07-21-08, 06:52
Has anyone been to East-West in Longwood since the raids earlier this year? I always got a great massage and possibilities of leaving happy and relaxed.

This was one of my top 5 MPs but I have not been back since the raids.

Thanks and be safe.

Exec Talent
07-21-08, 09:30
She didn't get busted foir menu items. she got busted for not having a massage lic. She is facing a felony charge.

Alexis got busted with the same charge and is getting jail time.

be safe

Are you saying the massage therapists are getting jail time for not having a license? Can you point to arrest records, etc? If this is true, please let me know, I will see what I can do to arrange good attorneys for them. I have had enough.

BTW, if they were busted for something else, like drugs, I don't even want to hear about it.

In a county where real crime is rampant, our wonderful media needs to be on this story.

Ialwaystofft
07-21-08, 14:15
I am good friends with a lady who gives massage I have known her for over a decade (she is legit tho). It is indeed the law that a masseuese must have a valid license in order to give massages for compensation including bartering for stuff in this state. It is a felony the same as a doctor not having a license. Also the masseuses have to have all kinds of permits for their places of business much like a retail place. SHe told me that she pays close to $600 a year just in permits, not to metntion that she has to renew her massage license every 3 years for over $100. I think this is just a way LE is trying ot crack down on all our fun. Me personally, I dont see any girl that isn't licensed and up to date with all her shit because they are too easy a target for LE. THey can get busted for so many things, and serious crimes like felonies. Licensed girls who do a little extras are safer because they can only get busted for misdemeanor prostitution. If a girl is licensed she is not a big target from what i understand. I always ask and girls that are on the up and up are happy to show me their shit. girls that are not get defensive and want to know why I am asking. But all that shit is public info anyways so there's no need to act like that.Those asian places employ a lot of illegals so I rarely ever go there.I feel like they are always being watched you know.? I prefer seeing a girl working on her own not at an AMP. I feel its safer.

Sponge Worthy
07-21-08, 16:04
In a county where real crime is rampant, our wonderful media needs to be on this story.

I know of absolutely no history with our local media standing up to law enforcement. They may do a story about Kevin Beary spending money on 14 elephant guns (without any history of rampaging elephants in the county), but then they'll say "We're prepared in case it happens."

Mr Orlando
07-21-08, 18:48
Are you saying the massage therapists are getting jail time for not having a license? Can you point to arrest records, etc? If this is true, please let me know, I will see what I can do to arrange good attorneys for them. I have had enough.

BTW, if they were busted for something else, like drugs, I don't even want to hear about it.

In a county where real crime is rampant, our wonderful media needs to be on this story.Massage by Alexis. She was arrested 2 times and is looking at jail time. Massage by Grace was just busted last month. Call Grace her number is still working and she will tell you that she was busted.

As for Alexis. Her court date is coming up. She bonded out several months ago.

Radarrock25
07-21-08, 21:14
The CL URL that you listed can be found under other CL THS sites. Just look up in Washington DC or Baltimore (Places I frequent.) They are making money with Google ads. You unknowingly click on the link on the site which is an embedded google link and cha-ching, someone is making a few cents. Multiply that by all the times I've seen it listed.


Hi guys due to a little family crisis I have been away for a while and now that I'm back I have seen this post on CL Therapeutic that makes no sense to me. I emailed her to the CL email address and never got a response. Is this what I think it is just a scam/rip off? Your input is appreciated

CIU

http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/751152299.html

Radarrock25
07-21-08, 21:22
First, I'd like to thank all the folks here for the excellent advice that I have gleaned from the pages.

Unfortunately, Orlando is my home turf, so I am reluctant to exercise this knowledge unless I get very comfortable (I. E. , many visits).

To everyone's credit, I have been to three separate AMPs in the North East (DC, MD) and have scored each time on visit one! Thanks to all of YOU!

I tried to get a massage (real massage here) at My Thai but there was a sign on the door that said they were in session and to come back in an hour or so. I didn't really have the time to wait, so I went to Natural Therapy on Mills.

The place is small but really nice. I ended up with a beautiful provider named C*C*. I paid for 1. 5 hours (my back really needed it). The massage was not rushed and her hands played enough to get a response from me, however, nothing was offered and nothing was requested. I will return and ask for the same masseuse.

One odd thing that occurred right as I was leaving. A customer came in and C*C* wouldn't let me out of the room until the customer left (probably one of your guys or maybe Uncle LEO).

The guy came in looking for a specific masseuse but the names he gave were no longer there (or maybe they don't use the names anymore.)

On my way out, I saw a really beautiful girl whose name was Ch**s**.

Gentleman 100
07-22-08, 06:07
Heather is advertising heavily in Craigslist (therapeutic services). I know that she used to offer extras, but publicly claims no more.

Has anyone visited her recently? Feel free to PM me with details.

www.BodyDelightByHeather.com

Mr Orlando
07-22-08, 08:14
Heather is advertising heavily in Craigslist (therapeutic services). I know that she used to offer extras, but publicly claims no more.

Has anyone visited her recently? Feel free to PM me with details.

www.BodyDelightByHeather.comI have seen heather 4 times. She provides a great legit massage. No more menu items. Just a good massage.

Dragonfly08
07-22-08, 10:53
Went to Asahi last night late.
I hadnt been in awhile because I have been on a hunt for independent MTs with big titts. But I digress...

The experience overall was good. The thing about Asahi is that they change therapists every few months, so if variety is your thing this is good. I had a cute therapist named Sue. I arrived at about 11:50, and they close at midnight. The mamasan said, "Its late, only half hour available". I said, "no problem."

Su did a good job of the table shower. The massage was mostly light touch, but I think all parties involved knew what I was there for. To make a long story short, I left happy and paid .4 plus .6 for the house.

Hotrodvfr
07-22-08, 14:11
Heather is advertising heavily in Craigslist (therapeutic services). I know that she used to offer extras, but publicly claims no more.

Has anyone visited her recently? Feel free to PM me with details.

www.BodyDelightByHeather.comI'd like an update on Heather to if anyone has one.

I use to be a regular of hers but haven't seen her in about a year.

I can tell you in the past the better she got to know you the more the menu expanded.

She has a really hot body (so so face).

It is all natural and I really enjoyed practicing Russian with her.

Hotrodvfr
07-22-08, 14:18
Heather is advertising heavily in Craigslist (therapeutic services). I know that she used to offer extras, but publicly claims no more.

Has anyone visited her recently? Feel free to PM me with details.

www.BodyDelightByHeather.comI'd like an update on Heather to if anyone has one.

I use to be a regular of hers but haven't seen her in about a year.

I can tell you in the past the better she got to know you the more the menu expanded.

She has a really hot body (so so face). It is all natural and I really enjoyed practicing Russian with her. Never quite got to FS yet.

MoonlightBiker
07-22-08, 23:10
Ok guys I need your help and a lot of it. I went to Ginza tonight. Most of you have been there. They've had some tough times this year. Right now they're facing the worst of them. Lilly seriously needs our help. She's looking at days where she only has one or two customers. There's no way anyone can keep a business open like that.

Let's also keep in mind that Lilly has always been first class. In my book she's the best in the business. She's also a single parent trying to raise a child all by herself.

I'm calling on my brother board members to step up. Go see her. Tell her you heard how slow it is and then give her an extra $10, $20, or $50 bucks to help her out. If you can't do this because she's a wonderful person who deserves our help then do it for selfish reasons. The sooner her business is rocking the sooner you're going to see new girls and more of a menu.

She needs our help. I for one am going back next week for a quick half hour and dropping another $50 tip. She knows it's just to help her in a tough time so it isn't going to effect our long term prices. She's not stupid, but she sure as hell is sweet.

Please spread this around. (and for God sakes...this isn't about going in and trying to get extras. This is about helping someone. Please keep that in mind.) Let's step up and TOFTT.

Mr Orlando
07-23-08, 09:37
I'd like an update on Heather to if anyone has one.

I use to be a regular of hers but haven't seen her in about a year.

I can tell you in the past the better she got to know you the more the menu expanded.

She has a really hot body (so so face). It is all natural and I really enjoyed practicing Russian with her. Never quite got to FS yet.



Please search previous posts.. Heather has been over talked on this board. she may or may not have had menu items in the past. She is now 100% legit. can't we move on from this one... Just mt 2 cents

On a side not. Uncle leo WAS OUT last night. the daily roll call at 33rd shows4 or 5 busts on the trail

Sponge Worthy
07-23-08, 09:52
Ok guys I need your help and a lot of it. I went to Ginza tonight. Most of you have been there. They've had some tough times this year. Right now they're facing the worst of them. Lilly seriously needs our help. She's looking at days where she only has one or two customers. There's no way anyone can keep a business open like that.

Let's also keep in mind that Lilly has always been first class. In my book she's the best in the business. She's also a single parent trying to raise a child all by herself.

I'm calling on my brother board members to step up. Go see her. Tell her you heard how slow it is and then give her an extra $10, $20, or $50 bucks to help her out. If you can't do this because she's a wonderful person who deserves our help then do it for selfish reasons. The sooner her business is rocking the sooner you're going to see new girls and more of a menu.

She needs our help. I for one am going back next week for a quick half hour and dropping another $50 tip. She knows it's just to help her in a tough time so it isn't going to effect our long term prices. She's not stupid, but she sure as hell is sweet.

Please spread this around. (and for God sakes...this isn't about going in and trying to get extras. This is about helping someone. Please keep that in mind.) Let's step up and TOFTT.

Sorry, but no. Lilly was great and I loved Ginza, but the service dropped WAY off. This isn't United Way or Red Cross. If a business wants more customers, then it provides better service BEFORE it gets them. If you want to overtip in hopes of getting something better in the future, that's your business.

However, it's more likely to lead them to believe that they don't need to improve service if they're already getting enough money as it is. That's the outcome I see from your TOFTT plan. Giving more money for less service has never been an incentive for the service to improve.

Mr Orlando
07-23-08, 10:08
Sorry, but no. Lilly was great and I loved Ginza, but the service dropped WAY off. This isn't United Way or Red Cross. If a business wants more customers, then it provides better service BEFORE it gets them. If you want to overtip in hopes of getting something better in the future, that's your business.

However, it's more likely to lead them to believe that they don't need to improve service if they're already getting enough money as it is. That's the outcome I see from your TOFTT plan. Giving more money for less service has never been an incentive for the service to improve.


In this economy we are all feeling the pinch. I know it sounds cold, However good service gets rewarded and bad service gets dropped. I have not been to Ginza and can't provide any details however at the time of service I am sure she got compensated for her time.

How about this... Lets start a fund for all the guys who toftt and give them some money back for the bad service they got.

Kudos for caring...

Onesys01
07-23-08, 10:16
Wife and I went here for a couples massage. There was alot of verbal teasing but suddenly, they went totally cold and rushed us out the door. Not sure at all why. I wonder if they thought we were cops? My wife really wanted to lick some nice Korean p*ssy, like her own. Oh well, back home tommorow so no retry time. Have fun everyone.

MoonlightBiker
07-23-08, 17:50
Sorry, but no. Lilly was great and I loved Ginza, but the service dropped WAY off. This isn't United Way or Red Cross. If a business wants more customers, then it provides better service BEFORE it gets them. If you want to overtip in hopes of getting something better in the future, that's your business.

However, it's more likely to lead them to believe that they don't need to improve service if they're already getting enough money as it is. That's the outcome I see from your TOFTT plan. Giving more money for less service has never been an incentive for the service to improve.

You couldn't be more wrong. Lilly's quality of service never dropped. Ginza itself has had it's share of outstanding and not outstanding girls, but Lilly has always been rock solid. I've never read of a single person who didn't say she is anything but the best out there.

Besides, I'm talking about having the class to help out another person. Maybe it's important to me because I realize that private businesses are what keep us from being a police state where we are all working for the government and doing exactly what they want us to do. Support those who don't fall in line with everyone else.

I don't frequent other boards so my voice is limited. Obviously there will be those who only care about themselves but I'm sure there are plenty of guys, and gals, like myself who would step up and help someone in need if they knew about it.

Tmacc
07-24-08, 07:06
Got a tip from the CL in the theuraputic section about a girl Chanel at a AMP near 17-92 near circuit city on 436 sorry don't know name. She gave an incredible massage full hour. She made it a point to say that it was not an erotic massage but told me to strip. My prob has always been that I look like a LEO in spite of piercings and tatoos. I have enjoyed the input of the board here but how do I get to the next level.

TMac

Gentleman 100
07-24-08, 07:41
You couldn't be more wrong. Lilly's quality of service never dropped. Ginza itself has had it's share of outstanding and not outstanding girls, but Lilly has always been rock solid. I've never read of a single person who didn't say she is anything but the best out there.

Besides, I'm talking about having the class to help out another person. Maybe it's important to me because I realize that private businesses are what keep us from being a police state where we are all working for the government and doing exactly what they want us to do. Support those who don't fall in line with everyone else.

I don't frequent other boards so my voice is limited. Obviously there will be those who only care about themselves but I'm sure there are plenty of guys, and gals, like myself who would step up and help someone in need if they knew about it.


I agree with the idea that let the market decide. If Ginza is not offering quality service, then the shop needs to close or get new management.

I have a better plan to help each other out: visit one of the Disney Parks as often as you can (even if you do not like the place). Since I work for Disney, it would help me out by keeping my employer in the black. :)

MoonlightBiker
07-24-08, 19:18
I think it's extremely unfair to say or imply that Lilly has been offering low quality service. I don't know where you guys are coming from. Obviously you haven't been to her and if that's the case then what the hell are you chiming in for?

I give up. We have a girl who has done an outstanding job for us and is ONLY suffering because of the police you all claim you are pissed off with for busting girls who don't deserve to be busted. Yet when it comes time to put your money where your mouth is you pull shit like this out of your ass and bad mouth the person you should be thanking. She's in this spot because local law enforcement scared off her clients. Local law enforcement did this for one reason only...to scare off her clients. I can't believe you're letting them win. Do you want them to continue doing this to the girls? Because if you do you are doing the exact right thing. The market does not dictate everything. It can be influenced by them or by us. Which is it going to be?

Citywalk
07-25-08, 13:01
After missing the event of the year last night, the Orlando Meet and Greet because of work, I needed some frustration relief. After a years absence from visiting NT, I went this morning and received an excellent massage from Nancy. Standard tip was offered for a pretty good finish. More details by PM for senior members.

Turtleshark
07-25-08, 21:01
Over my head, what was the Orlando Meet and Greet about?


After missing the event of the year last night, the Orlando Meet and Greet because of work, I needed some frustration relief. After a years absence from visiting NT, I went this morning and received an excellent massage from Nancy. Standard tip was offered for a pretty good finish. More details by PM for senior members.

Fluxaeon
07-26-08, 08:26
What was that all about some disgruntled therapist warning others that guys would critique them on usasexguide?

Someone really had their panties in a wad.

Irish
07-26-08, 12:47
Are there any spanish girls giving massages these days?

Worldsoffun
07-26-08, 14:31
What was that all about some disgruntled therapist warning others that guys would critique them on usasexguide?

Someone really had their panties in a wad.

I read the cat fighting going on in the "theraputic" section of CL and got a kick out of it myself. I'm glad that we are as entertaining to them as they are to us. The difference between the whiners and us is that we control the money and those who control the money control everything!!

I always treat the providers with great respect unless they give me reason to do otherwise. Bad service = no repeat business. We take our $$ elsewhere.
WOF

DodgeRules
07-26-08, 22:06
Were are all the good massage parlers? I remember when you could go to an amp get a great massage 55 min and then a nice 5 min HE tip the girl and go, are there any of these left? In the area.

Exec Talent
07-27-08, 06:50
Were are all the good massage parlers? I remember when you could go to an amp get a great massage 55 min and then a nice 5 min HE tip the girl and go, are there any of these left? In the area.

But you might get something you really like for much less at:

https://www.dunkindonuts.com/

Gentleman 100
07-27-08, 10:17
But you might get something you really like for much less at:

https://www.dunkindonuts.com/

Come on people, this place has great coffee and glazed doughnuts:

www.krispykreme.com

Maybe our new friend might also try Bob Evans (www.bobevans.com), they have great pork breakfast sandwiches.

Sponge Worthy
07-27-08, 11:26
You couldn't be more wrong. Lilly's quality of service never dropped. Ginza itself has had it's share of outstanding and not outstanding girls, but Lilly has always been rock solid. I've never read of a single person who didn't say she is anything but the best out there.

Besides, I'm talking about having the class to help out another person. Maybe it's important to me because I realize that private businesses are what keep us from being a police state where we are all working for the government and doing exactly what they want us to do. Support those who don't fall in line with everyone else.

I don't frequent other boards so my voice is limited. Obviously there will be those who only care about themselves but I'm sure there are plenty of guys, and gals, like myself who would step up and help someone in need if they knew about it.

Class? You're talking about going into a joint to get jerked off after a massage. Let's not build this up into something "classy" because you want to get more out of Lilly than she currently offers.

It's your money. Donate it if you wish. However, please don't insult others merely because they disagree with your point of view. Who and what I care about are really not any of your concern.

Grlluvr
07-27-08, 12:43
Wife and I went here for a couples massage. There was alot of verbal teasing but suddenly, they went totally cold and rushed us out the door. Not sure at all why. I wonder if they thought we were cops? My wife really wanted to lick some nice Korean p*ssy, like her own. Oh well, back home tommorow so no retry time. Have fun everyone.I want to know where I can get a wife like that :)

Citywalk
07-27-08, 13:52
Come on people, this place has great coffee and glazed doughnuts:

www.krispykreme.com

Maybe our new friend might also try Bob Evans (www.bobevans.com), they have great pork breakfast sandwiches.

http://www.barniescoffee.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/TopCategories_10001_10101_-1

MoonlightBiker
07-27-08, 14:38
Class? You're talking about going into a joint to get jerked off after a massage. Let's not build this up into something "classy" because you want to get more out of Lilly than she currently offers.

It's your money. Donate it if you wish. However, please don't insult others merely because they disagree with your point of view. Who and what I care about are really not any of your concern.You seem to always be loaded with assumptions. Odds are you'd be right once in a while but I'm still waiting. Lilly doesn't have a clue who Moonlightbiker is. All I was trying to do was help someone out who needs it. Like you said, it isn't your thing. Next time shut your fucking mouth if it doesn't concern you. Obviously the message wasn't meant for guys like you.

Exec Talent
07-27-08, 17:14
Guys please. I know Lilly. I like Lilly and wish her all the best in her business. I tip generously when I see her because she gives a good massage. I also tipped Mae, who used to work there, well.

Candidly, I think it is a lot harder to find a good legit massage in Orlando than it is to find a place that offers "extras." What is important to me is the legit massge which is why I go to Ginza. If you are looking for extras, I would look elsewhere.

The problem with Lilly's business is not the massage that she offers, it is that she tries to run the business by herself. I would love to recommend her to others, but I am hesitant because as much as I like her, I know what is going to happen. Someone I recommend is going to go see her and then come to me and say the massage was great but she stopped several times to answer the door or to answer the phone. It is hard to relax when your massage is interrupted. I am not being critical, I am simply stating facts.

The answer is to hire a receptionist who could be a massage student looking for experience. Then guys like me would gladly recommend Ginza as a place that offers something a lot don't -- a quality legit massage.

I truly feel sorry for guys if they select their AMP based on whether they offer a happy ending. I really can't give myself much of a full body massage but other parts are readily accessible. I do not need someone else to massage those.

So if you want to do Lilly a favor. Call her up and tell her to have someone post here when she gets a receptionist. Then everyone really should go, get a good massage and tip what you think is fair.

Gentleman 100
07-27-08, 18:16
Were are all the good massage parlers? I remember when you could go to an amp get a great massage 55 min and then a nice 5 min HE tip the girl and go, are there any of these left? In the area.Okay, 1 last jab from me on this. I have to correct this grammar. :)

Where are all the good massage parlors? I remember when one could go to an Amp (Ampere: a unit of electrical current: What?) and get a great massage for 55 minutes and then receive a nice 5 minute He (the periodic table symbol for Helium: Huh?), tip the girl, then depart. Are there any of these locations left in the area?

Final Grades:
Grammar: C-
Sentence Structure: C
Perp Apprehension: B-
Tactical Use of Baton: D
Fulfilling Traffic Citation Quotas: A-
How to Charge an Innocent Person with "Resisting Arrest Without Violence (F.S. 843.02)" - A+

Have fun and be safe everyone.

Fluxaeon
07-27-08, 19:55
I couldn't agree with Spongeworthy and Exectalent more. I asked on more than one occasion for Lilly to tone down the slap around massage and quit answering the phone. She acted like she didn't hear me. I actually thought Mae gave a better massage but, I read she is gone.

Maybe running a massage studio is not Lilly's thing. I will not spend another cent there.

The Best Nap
07-27-08, 20:41
Okay, 1 last jab from me on this. I have to correct this grammar. :)

Where are all the good massage parlors? I remember when one could go to an Amp (Ampere: a unit of electrical current: What?) and get a great massage for 55 minutes and then receive a nice 5 minute He (the periodic table symbol for Helium: Huh?), tip the girl, then depart. Are there any of these locations left in the area?

Final Grades:
Grammar: C-
Sentence Structure: C
Perp Apprehension: B-
Tactical Use of Baton: D
Fulfilling Traffic Citation Quotas: A-
How to Charge an Innocent Person with "Resisting Arrest Without Violence (F.S. 843.02)" - A+

Have fun and be safe everyone.That was too funny!

DodgeRules
07-27-08, 21:20
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VerySlowly
07-28-08, 00:53
You seem to always be loaded with assumptions. Odds are you'd be right once in a while but I'm still waiting. Lilly doesn't have a clue who Moonlightbiker is. All I was trying to do was help someone out who needs it. Like you said, it isn't your thing. Next time shut your fucking mouth if it doesn't concern you. Obviously the message wasn't meant for guys like you.One of you is being altruistic, one is being realistic. Never the twain shall meet. It is ok to share such divergent opinions, this is what it means to be human and both are "right " on some level.

Both have strong and valid points but it has gotten out of hand, if you both continue it just escalates until your calling each other nastier names, serves no purpose, I got into with a guy and decided to let him have the last word because I had made my point and nothing could be said that would further the pursuit of sex on the board. If I had seen him in person there would have been blood because in my opinion he insulted a provider that I am very close to, that said it's all BS because it dose-not further the pursuit of sex.

My advise is lets get back on topic and LETS "GET OFF" MORE OFTEN or not..... your choice---VS

Sponge Worthy
07-28-08, 11:07
You seem to always be loaded with assumptions. Odds are you'd be right once in a while but I'm still waiting. Lilly doesn't have a clue who Moonlightbiker is. All I was trying to do was help someone out who needs it. Like you said, it isn't your thing. Next time shut your fucking mouth if it doesn't concern you. Obviously the message wasn't meant for guys like you.

Oooh, someone is testy. Like I really care. You put out your "great idea" and someone disagreed with it. Naturally, that must mean there's something wrong with those of us who don't feel like coddling a business until she gets around to offering more services.

Dude, man-up! If you can't take a little disagreement, you're just going to burst a blood vessel in your brain or something. If you wish to continue over-tipping for Lilly because you like her, that's your business. I'm just not on board with your idea. No need to get all huffy because someone thinks your plan won't work.

Clinton Bush
07-28-08, 22:39
You seem to always be loaded with assumptions. Odds are you'd be right once in a while but I'm still waiting. Lilly doesn't have a clue who Moonlightbiker is. All I was trying to do was help someone out who needs it. Like you said, it isn't your thing. Next time shut your fucking mouth if it doesn't concern you. Obviously the message wasn't meant for guys like you.Tell us how you REALLY feel.

Hey, it sounds like she's a great person. I'm really into providing a Korean foreign aid package. Pm me with details about her skills, what's on the menu and the going rate and I'll help out

Thanks

CB

MoonlightBiker
07-29-08, 07:56
My advise is lets get back on topic and LETS "GET OFF" MORE OFTEN or not..... your choice---VSLOL, well stated. Unfortunitly I need to "get off" to work. Thanks for the reminder of why we are here.

Hotrodvfr
07-29-08, 14:07
I was in Ginza today.

After a pretty decent massage before HE she says 'OK we're done. Get dressed'
We had a brief discussion she tells me 'I don't do the front'

This kinda caught me off guard as I've been there and seen her a couple times before and always got HE, even the first time.

Being the sentive modern guy I am, believing in a woman's right to say no I didn't push the issue.

Still can't help think WTF

Fellow Guy
07-29-08, 21:23
Well, not that this thread isn't getting off-topic or anything.

Last week I returned to Asahi after probably 8 months or so. Had a fantastic massage. I was a little anxious due to the reports of changes at various spas, but I've never been disappointed with my Asahi experience. I have probably been there 10 times, and the massage treatment has always been fantastic.

I won't go into details, but it was a great time. All of the people I met there were new and all treated me great. I would imagine that if you liked Asahi before, you would still like Asahi now.

Captcook
08-02-08, 15:08
Hey all, been lurking for awhile now and thought it was time to share. I’ve been going to the Tokyo Spa in Longwood as well as the massage place on 17/92 just west of Thurstons off and on for about a year now. At Tokyo, I usually see Annie. She has a very pleasant attitude and gives a great massage. An 8 out of 10. The only down side is that she doesn’t provide extras. Have only seen one other lady at Tokyo. The massage was terrible and she was overly aggressive when it came to providing a list of available extras during the massage. Just a bad experience overall. As far as the other place by Thurstons goes, only been there a few times and the massage has always been so so. HE was always provided but overall, a 5 out of 10 experience.

Gentleman 100
08-02-08, 17:48
I had some extra time today, so I stopped by Assa. Sh**** was on deck. I like my massages light/soft, and she did a good job. I paid for an hour, and that is what I got.

I was not 100% pleased with the service: it seemed like she was just not having a good day. I did have to show her what parts needed more attention. I did leave relaxed and happy, and that is the important part.

Massage: 7.5/10 (lack of enthusiasm)

House Fee: .9
Tip: .4

I still recommend this place, but since they rotate though providers every few months, you may not get the same provider the next time.

The location is good because there is good visibility in the parking lot: it would be easy to see out-of-place vehicles (like plumbing vans, Ford Crown Vic Interceptors, etc.). There are also some good businesses nearby to patronize before or after your massage.

Be safe and have fun.

Fluxaeon
08-03-08, 17:19
The last time I went there which was about 5-6 months ago, I had an weird thing happen. As you all know you are taken into another area for the TS. I had a fair massage with HE. When I went in to my pocket for a tip, I was light by $40 (2 twenty dollar Bills). I tipped the last $20 I had. I went to my car and thought I may have left the money there. I hadn't. I am not sure if my pocket was picked, but I have not gone back. Has anyone else had this happen?

Gentleman 100
08-10-08, 08:00
I recently went to I.T. for a quality back rub. I cannot remember the therapist's name, but since I am a regular there, she gave a relaxed, quality massage. At the end of the massage, she said "Oh my gosh". Apparently, when she was massaging my leg, I accidently nutted.

She left the room and I used the towel that was draped over my private area to clean up. That has never happened over there before (to me or anyone else) and I apologized to her. Because she did nothing wrong or unethical, she was clearly embarassed. I assured her that sometimes with purely appropriate massages, this might happen.

Anyway, this was a very good, legitimate massage with nothing unethical on her part. This place is 100% legitimate with no chance of "extras", so LE does not have to consider staking this place out. I am confident that nothing unethical or illegal will ever happen there.

For those that are new, read this a couple of times before you rush to judgment.

House Fee: .8
Tip: .4

Be safe, legal, ethical, and have fun.

Sponge Worthy
08-10-08, 18:01
The last time I went there which was about 5-6 months ago, I had an weird thing happen. As you all know you are taken into another area for the TS. I had a fair massage with HE. When I went in to my pocket for a tip, I was light by $40 (2 twenty dollar Bills). I tipped the last $20 I had. I went to my car and thought I may have left the money there. I hadn't. I am not sure if my pocket was picked, but I have not gone back. Has anyone else had this happen?

Never happened to me. I use those plastic baggies to take my valuables to the TS with me. You never know who could've gone through your stuff in the room after you left your pants behind.

On the other hand, it's kind of hard to imagine a thief leaving you $20 behind. Thieves generally aren't known to be that considerate.