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PokeHerFaceJon
02-14-19, 09:27
Does anyone have any information about the place across from Buffalo Wild Wings in the plaza where Supercuts is? I think it's called Oasis Massage.
PHFJ Out!
Had time in the morning, stopped at a local place. Was just planning on getting some headache relief, but the provider got to into it and slipped it in! I was surprised af but I went with it. When I was close to finishing I pulled out and said let me finish in your mouth. She starts again with the headache and I tell her I'm about to bust she ninjas herself back onto me and I bust inside. WTF? Never in all my years has that happened so now I'm scared I fucked up and it'll come back to haunt me.
BeastlyMann
02-14-19, 10:42
First GG. Had the itch a couple weeks ago so I headed to GG. Was met at the door by July. $. 80 cor the house and it was upstairs to the room. Playful making out and roaming and had a little more than usual on me so I inquired about 4 hands with pandora. Setteled on $$ and off to the shower where Pandora was waiting. She recognized me with a big DFK and dropped to work on junior while me and July made out. Funny thing and first time it has happened ant BO or GG for me July was avoiding lettimg me sink a finger in her honeyhole. Table shower was excellent with Pandora riding me with daty for July till my first pop. They made sure I was cleaned up and me and July were off to the room. I was hoping pandora would follow but no luck which ended up being my first disappointment. So me and July are playing and again she stops my attempt to finger her, grabs a cover and puts it on my finger. WTH? But I went with it. So went for some daty and after a while attempted to place a finger again. She jumps up, grabs another cover and places it on my finger again. At this time between loosing the rhythm she. Overed me up and we went standing mish till my second pop. A little disappointing for my first 4 hands manily due to the loss of rhythm with July but overall still got what I went there for just will probably stick to 1 on one from now on.
BeastlyMann
02-14-19, 11:05
After my recent experience at GG I figured I'd drop in to BO. I like to alternate anyways so they remember me. Met by snow who was happy to see me. My last visit I drew a new girl who wasn't that up to par so snow said she would get me a great girl to make up. So in walks Yume and damn she was hot. Short, nice Cs with curves and a beautiful ass. A little kissing, fondling and BBBJ starter while we waited for the shower. Shower was thorough making sure every inch was clean. She leaned herself up and back to the room. Started to make out and I had to taste that ass. Bent her over the table and alternated between both honey holes which by her moans she was enjoying. Flipped her for some more daty and I counted at least 3 shaking Os with her juices running flowing. She pushes me back, drops to her knees and proceeds with a wonderful BBBJ. Well somewhere during the little cock ninja slipped a cover on so I was a little disappointed that I wasn't able to unload in her talented mouth. Cleaned me up, light massage and teased me ready for #2. She road ACG, CG with grinding and standing dog with her having trembling Os in each position until #2 was completed. I love a girl who has multiple Os and as she rested, exhausted on the table I asked how many which she replied she lost count. I know that these girls can be great actresses but hell iis all the fun of finding the ones who can actually get off with you which I believe she did from the smile on her face. Mission accomplished with both of us very happy.
Member #6393
02-14-19, 11:09
Had time in the morning, stopped at a local place. Was just planning on getting some headache relief, but the provider got to into it and slipped it in! I was surprised af but I went with it. When I was close to finishing I pulled out and said let me finish in your mouth. She starts again with the headache and I tell her I'm about to bust she ninjas herself back onto me and I bust inside. WTF? Never in all my years has that happened so now I'm scared I fucked up and it'll come back to haunt me.Is the provider pretty well known or is she UTR?
Had time in the morning, stopped at a local place. Was just planning on getting some headache relief, but the provider got to into it and slipped it in! I was surprised af but I went with it. When I was close to finishing I pulled out and said let me finish in your mouth. She starts again with the headache and I tell her I'm about to bust she ninjas herself back onto me and I bust inside. WTF? Never in all my years has that happened so now I'm scared I fucked up and it'll come back to haunt me.Well hopefully she doesn't have your name / contact info. Maybe never go there again.
Harry Plopper
02-14-19, 11:56
I think you will be good. The safety patrol does a great job of scaring everyone. Good hygiene goes a long way on your part. Monitor but you have a higher percentage of getting into a car accident on the way home than catching something from sex.
Had time in the morning, stopped at a local place. Was just planning on getting some headache relief, but the provider got to into it and slipped it in! I was surprised af but I went with it. When I was close to finishing I pulled out and said let me finish in your mouth. She starts again with the headache and I tell her I'm about to bust she ninjas herself back onto me and I bust inside. WTF? Never in all my years has that happened so now I'm scared I fucked up and it'll come back to haunt me.
Important detail missing.
What place is this? I promise to personally investigate this place until I know for sure!
Had time in the morning, stopped at a local place. Was just planning on getting some headache relief, but the provider got to into it and slipped it in! I was surprised af but I went with it. When I was close to finishing I pulled out and said let me finish in your mouth. She starts again with the headache and I tell her I'm about to bust she ninjas herself back onto me and I bust inside. WTF? Never in all my years has that happened so now I'm scared I fucked up and it'll come back to haunt me.
I think you will be good. The safety patrol does a great job of scaring everyone. Good hygiene goes a long way on your part. Monitor but you have a higher percentage of getting into a car accident on the way home than catching something from sex.Hoping your right. Being married, this would not be a great situation at all.
My question is which are you more worried about catching something or getting her pregnant? Both of course would suck.
Hoping your right. Being married, this would not be a great situation at all.
My question is which are you more worried about catching something or getting her pregnant? Both of course would suck.But for real, just the first one.
Electronman
02-14-19, 15:39
BO and GG sound great! But I may have a short time window during an upcoming trip to Celebration. As a result, the drive time from Celebration to BO or GG may be a barrier. I've scanned the massage posts (thanks-- lots of tantalizing information! But I'm having trouble locating any well reviewed MPs in the Celebration / SW Orlando area. Any advice?
BO and GG sound great! But I may have a short time window during an upcoming trip to Celebration. As a result, the drive time from Celebration to BO or GG may be a barrier. I've scanned the massage posts (thanks-- lots of tantalizing information! But I'm having trouble locating any well reviewed MPs in the Celebration / SW Orlando area. Any advice?Try Kissimmee on John Young /192. Very good reviews.
Redsox2005
02-14-19, 17:50
192 east to John Young. From Celebration should not take you more than 20 min even with all 23 lights and traffic. At John Young hang a right, go to Oak St and pull a you. Look for a big massage sign located between 2 banks and right next to orthodontist office. Let us know how you make out.
Sox.
BO and GG sound great! But I may have a short time window during an upcoming trip to Celebration. As a result, the drive time from Celebration to BO or GG may be a barrier. I've scanned the massage posts (thanks-- lots of tantalizing information! But I'm having trouble locating any well reviewed MPs in the Celebration / SW Orlando area. Any advice?
SplitLickity1
02-14-19, 18:27
Just left GG after having a spectacular time with Nina. Started with a nice TS with lots of B2B action, a nice BBBJ and some aggressive TUMA. Not sure how I didn't pop right there but I was able to sustain. Back in the room we got down to some DATY, BBBJ and CFS in several positions. She said I made her cum 10 times! Not sure about 10 but definitely at least 5.
On the way out I saw Jasmine looking beautiful as ever and met the newest addition Nana. I'm going to have to go back soon for some of that!! Good times!!
Thank you for all of your postings. I enjoy reading them and would like to enjoy some of that fun.
I am a leg amputee and am scared of the table shower situation in my possible dream. I can't do that without removing my leg.
Also to be honest, I fear rejection.
Most of the few times I have gone to a provider, they have told me no, cause they don't do guys with one leg.
Can anyone tell me if BO is handicap friendly and if there are stairs.
Thank you very much.
Electronman
02-14-19, 18:48
192 east to John Young. From Celebration should not take you more than 20 min even with all 23 lights and traffic. At John Young hang a right, go to Oak St and pull a you. Look for a big massage sign located between 2 banks and right next to orthodontist office. Let us know how you make out.
Sox.
Try Kissimmee on John Young /192. Very good reviews.Thanks gentlemen! All 23 lights? You must have made that trip a few times Redsox!
Hoping I can "consummate" the visit. I'll post a review.
I prefer GG, girls are a little more passionate and sexually aggressive there. But both places are great. Went by GG Wednesday night around 8:15 and 6 of you mongers were there. So I go to BO and no cars, awesome. Asked for my fav there yumi, not there. Asked for sugar, not there. She tells me not to worry she has a sexy new girl with decent tits. Brings out Cherri. I had a great time, her head game is awesome, I just prefer them more aggressive and older Cherri seems on the young side of 20. Nice rack and dt skills. All positions available. You could tell she's sort of new to the b2 b and ts event. Still very nice. 200 for 45 min. 2 pops offered but I only took 1 this time. Will repeat just not with Cherri. Beautiful girl just too young for me and not aggressive enough.
Electronman
02-14-19, 18:59
Thanks gentlemen! All 23 lights? You must have made that trip a few times Redsox!
Hoping I can "consummate" the visit. I'll post a review.For future reference, Google maps suggests that it might be called "Well Body Spa" 1045 and John Young Parkway.
Mongol1266
02-14-19, 23:57
Hello all. Did any staff from Avalon stay and are still working there under new management and 88 Massage? Thank you in advance. Life changes and I'm watching my year old and planning my "me alone" time. LOL.I think it's all new staff.
DarkKnight2K
02-15-19, 03:47
Had a disappointing dream to start the month a couple weeks ago. In the dream, I stopped by Asahi early evening looking for a real massage to alleviate my headache. Greeted by late 30's to mid 40's woman with long dark hair. Fairly certain she was the only therapist working. Therapist refused to tell me her name during / after our session. She said her name was "Beautiful", and while pretty for her age, beautiful was probably a stretch. She also asked me repeatedly if I had visited before, even after telling her I hadn't but made it clear I'd been to several other AMPs before. I think her previous job was working at Guantanamo based on her interrogation style and penchant for playful Dinozzo-style taps on the back of my head when she didn't understand me.
No joy during TS, as she scrubbed me vigorously with an abrasive sponge and directed me to wash Junior myself. Back in the room, the massage itself was actually very good with hot blankets, back walking, etc. She allowed some light roaming without complaint. The flip was non-eventful, even though I had flashed extra cash earlier while paying for the massage session. I had about 10 minutes left when she did the "all done, get dressed", but remained in the room and looked at Junior like an alien when I let the towel slip off. Declining a big tip to help relieve my headache, I cut my losses and got dressed. She did tell me the other therapist I asked for by name when I came in was on vacation until March. Damage was. 8 for the hr and. 2 tip because the massage fixed my sore back. Doubt I'd repeat unless I get a younger girl. I awoke refreshed but frustrated.
DK2 K.
MagicHeadBalls
02-15-19, 03:50
I always choose BO over GG because BO always have the youngest and very talented new girls from out of town. In addition to that, I am a 2 pops guy. I hate to negotiate with my provider after the first pop. Going to BO is like going to the Chinese buffet. I try to eat / pop as much as I can. I pay upfront so I don't have to negotiate with the provider for the 2nd pop.
I visited BO on 2/12 right before the closing time. I paid $$. 4 for 1 hour. Snow wanted me to try their new girl Cherry. She was pretty and young. Her 34 C cups was soft to touch and tasted good. She might be a little bit of shy at first. She was new to the environment and I understood that. We kissed a bit in the room (LFK).
In the shower room, she performed NURU massage, body slid and BBBJ. She exceeded all my expectation for a new girl. BBBJ was very intense. I shot one in her mouth.
Things got more exciting in the massage room, 10 minutes of body to body massage, 2 minutes of DFK, 5 minutes of DATY and BBBJ. I was up again. I did my best and shot my second load. I spent almost 1 hour with her. She was not a clock watcher. I was the last one leaving the place. I said goodnight to all of them while Snow unlocked the door for me.
Cherry tasted as good as she looked. I will dream of her again. What a sweet taste in my mouth.
As the other brother suggested take 192 from celebration and head to kissimmee you'll see a lot of AMPs if you like to explore and find it to be more enjoyable Beijing, Liz, and Jasmine should be one of the first ones you'll run into.
BO and GG sound great! But I may have a short time window during an upcoming trip to Celebration. As a result, the drive time from Celebration to BO or GG may be a barrier. I've scanned the massage posts (thanks-- lots of tantalizing information! But I'm having trouble locating any well reviewed MPs in the Celebration / SW Orlando area. Any advice?
NeedSweets
02-15-19, 08:02
Saw her a few months at her home.
https://www.massageanywhere.com/profile/-Rosie2Does she have reviews on here? "Rosie" gets no apparent search hits and "Mya" is too short for a search.
DarkKnight2K
02-15-19, 10:07
I recently saw Yui at BO and my experience with her was exactly opposite. We spent at least 20 minutes on the TS, the one in the back, and this girl had me nutting in no time which is unusual for me. The girl obviously loves to give oral examinations and is very good at it. Back in the room she didn't let up. She continued her oral exam until it was time for me to give her one. She was quivering in a matter of just a few minutes with her first "O" and I just kept on going until she had a second. Covered up and hit it from all angles. She wanted to do RCG in front of the mirror so she could watch herself getting penetrated! Before it was all over she had her third "O" and I was drained. She told me she was from Japan as well and I believed her. The biggest and most obvious reason were her breasts. Chinese girls usually have very large nipples and Yui's were tiny. Very nice time with Yui!!Same evening as to make up for the Asahi fiasco, I dreamed I made my way over to BO, lot had at least 4 cars out front. Cruised by GG and lot was packed, 3 cars out front and at 2 in back. Back to BO, and 1 or 2 had left by this point. Standard donation $$ for 45 min thru the window. Gorgeous Snow greeted me and remembered me from previous visits. Some girls must have been wrapping up, as Snow led me back to room to undress. Snow was in a playful mood, big smile when she look at Junior and joked that she hadn't been fucked in awhile. I offered anytime but she declined (worth a try). Said she had 2 new girls, one Chinese and one Japanese. I was hesitant with brand new girls but let Snow pick for me.
Dark skinned Japanese Yui came in a few minutes later wearing a skimpy black lingerie combo, think my mouth dropped when I saw her (thank you Snow! She said it was only her sixth day working. Yui had a firm petite body, long black hair and perky large B breasts. TS did not disappoint with lots of LFK and DFK, teasing me with her tongue. Yui did a great body slide, soft hands and TUMA. Flipped and gave me a nice BBBJ with water. Tried to DT and got most of me. In the room, more DFK and BBBJ featuring more outstanding tongue work. Tested out her kitty after cover went on in CG but Yui was so tight she could only take me halfway but rode me for a long time while I sucked on her small nipples. Sloppy BBBJ which lasted for another 10 minutes before CIM finish, and she milked me for every drop. She laughed while getting up to spit after saying I came too much but I'm not apologizing. Since she's so new, she said if I come back in a couple weeks before she leave she'd be stretched out enough to take me balls deep. Might have to put that to the test.
Complemented Snow on her selection as I headed out, awaking from my dream quite satiated.
DK2 K out.
SammFunGuy
02-15-19, 12:20
Had a dream the other day about BO having a couple new girls and I got to sample. Asked for my fav but snow says she's on vacation. Not completely sure what that means. Sometimes it means they are on their period while other times it means they left for good. Anyways, snow will bullshit you and make you stay. I said "whatever give me a new girl. " In walks yui. All natural, probably around b cups with kinda saggy booty. Face is on the prettier side. More Japanese-looking. Snow says that she does DT and she does try. A little too much oil used for the main dish but she takes it well in all positions. She's 25 and Japanese looking if that's your type. I may start turning down the girls to walk out on snow if she keeps the bullshit up. Getting sick of that "baby she's on vacation," "baby, she's on her period," " baby, if you have big cock we can fuck in the car, yeah, right) "wait right here baby, I get you new girl. " (and brings me the same girl I've seen 3 times).
Might have to go back to dreaming about GG and see if there's new talent. Stay safe, SFG.
BeastlyMann
02-15-19, 12:27
Well I had the itch the other day and decided to trek to GG. No cars up front and was met at the door by Nana. Hot little girl with beautiful Cs and a gorgeous ass. Dropped. 80 for the hr and headed upstairs kissing anc fondling all the way. Seemed like it was going to be a fun time until the doorbell rang. Some conversation in their native toung and I had the old switcharoo pulled on me. In walks Nina and she says she will be taking care of me. Nina is a little older I'd say late 30's / early 40's but a hot body with small manmade Bs. Not too much friskiness in the room with a little LFK and her adjusting every time I tried to fondle. Off to the TS where it started good with a thorough scrub of the backside with some fondling of the boys. Here's where the first sign of a mediocre experience was. Maneuvered my hand to play with her and she was still fully clothed including pantys WTF? On the flip had to negotiate for her to get naked which was another first for me at GG. So scrubs the front with a decent BBBJ to which I've definitely had better but it was good none the less. So after I dried myself another first we were off to the room. A couple pecs on my lips and tried to get into the rhythm and go for some DATY hoping to wake up her passion and next thing I know I'm chasing her around the room until she says lay down like she was annoyed. So I lay down as she puts at least 10 pumps of lube on and proceeds with a lackluster BBBJ to start. Every time I tried to access her sweetspot she would adjust until I finally was able to sink one in each hole. She hopped on with a sad performance of ACG, CG and finally doggy where I pounded her to my 1st of what I assumed would be a 2 pop visit. So she cleans me up, heads out to clean herself, comes back in and gets fully dressed again for the massage again WTF. Normally with my other visits we go back to playing for round 2. So the massage was decent and I was making it known by roaming that I wanted another round but she just kept rubbing. So times up and inquire about a 2nd pop and she says $160 only gets 1 pop for the Hr. Again WTF and advised her of all my previous visits included 2 for that tip with her having a disinterested look on her face. Led me out and told Nana I wanted her for my next visit. I'll give GG another try but if its 3 strikes I may start alternating between BO and KMS / WB for a while. It is just easier for me because both GG and BO are in the general area and if one is full its a quick hop to the other. Hobby hard and skip the older Nina at GG. YMMV but she definitely was not worth it to me.
ImafYouGood
02-15-19, 14:04
Does anyone have any information about the place across from Buffalo Wild Wings in the plaza where Supercuts is? I think it's called Oasis Massage.
PHFJ Out!
Dreamt I went there a while back, standard rub an tug. Never anything else however YMMV.
As always.
Stay safe.
Ima.
ArielDude28
02-16-19, 02:27
I prefer GG, girls are a little more passionate and sexually aggressive there. But both places are great. Went by GG Wednesday night around 8:15 and 6 of you mongers were there. So I go to BO and no cars, awesome. Asked for my fav there yumi, not there. Asked for sugar, not there. She tells me not to worry she has a sexy new girl with decent tits. Brings out Cherri. I had a great time, her head game is awesome, I just prefer them more aggressive and older Cherri seems on the young side of 20. Nice rack and dt skills. All positions available. You could tell she's sort of new to the b2 b and ts event. Still very nice. 200 for 45 min. 2 pops offered but I only took 1 this time. Will repeat just not with Cherri. Beautiful girl just too young for me and not aggressive enough.I am visiting Orlando for the first time. From Chicago and Chi is a dry place with not much AMP action.
Will plan to visit BO. I am an old school kind and would prefer natural/hairy / Bush if available. Any specific provider at BO or other place who meets that? Appreciate the feedback.
I am visiting Orlando for the first time. From Chicago and Chi is a dry place with not much AMP action.
Will plan to visit BO. I am an old school kind and would prefer natural/hairy / Bush if available. Any specific provider at BO or other place who meets that? Appreciate the feedback.Cherry has a big hairy Bush at BO.
Woke up today & wanting a massage and couldn't help but to think to try one of these two. It's been a while since I go to an AMP. And I have never seen either of them. Anyone have a suggestion
Coming to town and trying to decide who to see LuLu at You or Sophia at May? I love a good massage but LuLu seems fun..
Hey guys new member but long time lurker I've been reading the forums for quite sometime and have used some of the intel in the site to visit a couple of places like CB before they closed I monger between orlando and kissimmee but I wanted to take my time to post about this because its the first time I see this happen, so I'm trying to park my car to go inside this spa that I saw earlier today but was reluctant to go in because it looks like work is being done in the parking area like a renovation type of thing and most if not all of the parking spots are closed, no cars parked actually some people were asked to move their cars so the guys can get to work, and as I was trying to find a spot to park I saw this young Chinese girl going inside the spa holding a bag, this is the type of girl that by looking at her you'd think she is your daughter's college classmate, she looks so good tall but cute and very skinny with silky long hair, when I went in another lady greeted me at the door and I asked if there was another lady working there and I was told that a new girl arrived today but she wasn't ready to start working because she needed to go out and buy some food and I was told to come back in about an hour which I will, as I walked out I saw her going to the restroom and she looks even better up close, this spa is basically next to a peruvian restaurant and doesn't have one of those big massage sign at the front of it the door reads HC Massage, with their phone number which doesn't seem to be working for some reason, almost gave up on trying to find a parking spot. I will be back later this afternoon and will report back.
Could anyone tell me if BO is handicas p friendly?
I am a disabled person and would like to know. I am a leg amputee so the table shower would probably be out of the question.
Anyone care to share some information please.
Member #6318
02-16-19, 13:45
Hey man, I'm in a similar situation, not with a prostetic but with a colostomy bag and several knarley scars across my belly. I am missing a little bit of colon, 20% of my bladder and a couple feet of intestine. I have one of those elastic back belts that I wrap around myself and that conceals mostly everything. I'm limited on the back walking and laying on my stomach for longer than 20 minutes. The girls ask if everything is ok and I assure them it is. The first time I told them I did it before like this and her mind was put at ease, so you may want to try that.
It's a little awkward but hasn't slowed me down. Good luck to you man and enjoy!
Thank you for all of your postings. I enjoy reading them and would like to enjoy some of that fun.
I am a leg amputee and am scared of the table shower situation in my possible dream. I can't do that without removing my leg.
Also to be honest, I fear rejection.
Most of the few times I have gone to a provider, they have told me no, cause they don't do guys with one leg.
Can anyone tell me if BO is handicap friendly and if there are stairs.
Thank you very much.
I don't think my first post made it but I went back to the spa that's next to the restaurant and boy, this girl was exactly what I was expecting from the preview I got this morning very skinny long silky hair slim cute face nice smile sweet voice, I took the hour for 70 with a ts and unfortunately I didn't carry much cash to ask for more than a BJ but next time I will bring more because she just started working today and she seems like the type of girl who doesn't stay in the same spa for long.
Laharvardkid
02-16-19, 17:18
Stop by to give them a try, use to be one of my go tos years ago. Bad timing busy, girl that I saw was also the front girl (mama was a lunch I guess). Took my money shuffled into a room "wait here", came in clothes off hat on CBJ 1 min to FS quick no play, I made it last longer than she wanted. Finished with a bottle of water out the door in 20 min. Don't remember her name, body 8/10, face 6/10, personality 3/10, sensuality 0/10, massage 0/10. Will not return, too many other great options for almost the same mario!
Be safe.
Laharvardkid.
Just searched the place it looks to be on Taft and the trail. Same light as Sams clubs. Very close to me I may have to check out.
Hey guys new member but long time lurker I've been reading the forums for quite sometime and have used some of the intel in the site to visit a couple of places like CB before they closed I monger between orlando and kissimmee but I wanted to take my time to post about this because its the first time I see this happen, so I'm trying to park my car to go inside this spa that I saw earlier today but was reluctant to go in because it looks like work is being done in the parking area like a renovation type of thing and most if not all of the parking spots are closed, no cars parked actually some people were asked to move their cars so the guys can get to work, and as I was trying to find a spot to park I saw this young Chinese girl going inside the spa holding a bag, this is the type of girl that by looking at her you'd think she is your daughter's college classmate, she looks so good tall but cute and very skinny with silky long hair, when I went in another lady greeted me at the door and I asked if there was another lady working there and I was told that a new girl arrived today but she wasn't ready to start working because she needed to go out and buy some food and I was told to come back in about an hour which I will, as I walked out I saw her going to the restroom and she looks even better up close, this spa is basically next to a peruvian restaurant and doesn't have one of those big massage sign at the front of it the door reads HC Massage, with their phone number which doesn't seem to be working for some reason, almost gave up on trying to find a parking spot. I will be back later this afternoon and will report back.
I don't think my first post made it but I went back to the spa that's next to the restaurant and boy, this girl was exactly what I was expecting from the preview I got this morning very skinny long silky hair slim cute face nice smile sweet voice, I took the hour for 70 with a ts and unfortunately I didn't carry much cash to ask for more than a BJ but next time I will bring more because she just started working today and she seems like the type of girl who doesn't stay in the same spa for long.BBBJ or CBJ?
Don't need the individual reports because we get plenty of those. But I know many sometimes struggle as to which one to go to.
My recent two trips to GG have left a lot to be desired. It seems they have really "let themselves go". My most recent trip, they put me in the side bathroom while I waited for a room and it was one of the most disgusting areas I have had to wait in. Smelled like pure urine in there. Then while in the table shower, they let a guy in completely naked walk right on in to take a piss. They were quick to get him out. But what happened to the days of avoiding contact between visitors? My other gripe is they don't seem to have the same standards that OB has lately with making sure both parties use mouth wash, washing down hands nice and well, etc.
I always tend to end up at GG because it is slightly closer, but finally decided to make the few extra miles over the BO most recent times and I am really glad I did. With the 45 minutes for same price of 30 at GG, and the cleaner and more professional environment, hard to see myself going back to GG anytime soon.
And to the dude that walked in on my TS. Why did you not walk away when you realized? Come on dude! Hah.
ArielDude28
02-17-19, 10:03
Cherry has a big hairy Bush at BO.Appreciate it and this looks promising. I feel you guys in Orlando are so lucky to have providers with natural looks that also provide a high grade service. I will try Cherry.
I didn't ask for BBBJ I usually bring my own cover and unless I'm dealing with a someone I've seen many times in the past then I will consider asking for a bb service I will hoever go back to see her either today or tomorrow, feels good to have some extra cash around this time of year, I hope she does allow FS because of her looks it will feel like I'm banging my neighbor's daughter.
BBBJ or CBJ?
Does anyone know if Anya is still in Orlando?
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=81386&cityid=98
Anyone partake yet?
I didn't ask for BBBJ I usually bring my own cover and unless I'm dealing with a someone I've seen many times in the past then I will consider asking for a bb service I will hoever go back to see her either today or tomorrow, feels good to have some extra cash around this time of year, I hope she does allow FS because of her looks it will feel like I'm banging my neighbor's daughter.Went by there today and was told Ivy was working in Kissimmee at there other store. Guess I'll try later in the week.
Well decided to try a new to me AMP after reading a few reports. I basically like just a good massage with a happy ending. I don't like to get into negotiations after the flip just a turn off. So I went to magic and went in met by a late 30 40 ish lady she ask me to underdress and sit on table she would be back in 15 minutes. Then I heard another voice and realized she was the only one their and she was with someone. She came in and said ok time for shower so off we go and ts was ok with making sure everything was cleaned and made sure the boys were good. We went back to room started with massage and about 15 minutes in I heard another voice then the door open. She was talking to another lady that must of been their. On the flip she massaged my legs and then used her nails to trace up and down my body and occasionally touching Willy then she went to town with a basic handshake. She did take her time and played with the boys and would just slightly touch Willy. Then the lotion came out and she kept working at it. Cleaned up finish with neck and head massage then out the door. 80 at door and because it wasn't rushed at the end I have her 60 tip.
Have fun.
What's up with Tokyo in Longwood? Been their several times and still a sign on door says under construction.
Was in need of a massage & was in the neighborhood of 88 Massage previously Avalon Jenny took me to a room paid house fee. 80 said she would be taking care of me. Gave a good massage on the flip asked what I wanted I said FS she said ok $$ I said I was ok she said. 60 HJ again I said was ok finished massage got dressed she came back with water & as I was leaving she put out her hand & said tip I replied there was no service to give a tip for she said massage I replied I gave. 80 for massage. After junior led me to the trail where I hung out with Ashley for. 60 QV everything covered better deal than. 60 HJ.
I'll stick with the reputable ones in the future they know what customer service is all about.
Have fun mongers!
Does anyone know if Anya is still in Orlando?I too was wondering the same, she was a treat.
ShadowMover
02-18-19, 06:55
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=81386&cityid=98
Anyone partake yet?I could be wrong, but looks like three different girls in the photos.
RufustFirefly
02-18-19, 12:28
AMP monger here, all over town for years! Here are my findings: Either HH or Hour, you get a HE you tip $40. Most here would agree on that number all over town. When she loses her clothes you got to pony up another $20 to $40. Your playtime went beyond just feeling and sucking ta ta's so you get to pony up again. You can easily end up spending the equivalent of the 45 minute flat fee at BO but then again, you got a really good massage, did you not?While I am fully supportive of the "don't overpay" school of thinking on this forum, I must agree with AncientOne that the tip should reflect the level of service, especially when there is higher enthusiasm and less clothing. I am also a great fan of Linda (now that Tina has left Natural) and she makes a great case (Exhibit "A") for getting a tip that approaches BO / FS 45 min. Levels. I cannot say it better than AncientOne. You get a full hour, a great and genuinely skilled massage, a lovely view, and terrific satisfaction along with well-spoken pleasurable company. For me, that makes Linda well worth a $ tip. Yoko, on the other hand, does not provide as good a massage (although within range. She has the skills but just doesn't have the force) and she hasn't shed much clothing with me, so a. 6 tip reflects her service. Bottom line: don't overpay, but pay for what you receive.
Redsox2005
02-18-19, 13:06
Definitely fake photos. One has long hair and in another is just a little past shoulders. Who's going to be the brave one? I'm going to say she won't even come close to looking like the pics.
Sox.
http://usaadultclassifieds.nl/classifieds/index.php?view=showad&adid=81386&cityid=98
Anyone partake yet?
UtahLegend
02-18-19, 13:55
The booty pimple on the brown haired pick convinced me they are fake photos. Unless someone popped that zit.
Definitely fake photos. One has long hair and in another is just a little past shoulders. Who's going to be the brave one? I'm going to say she won't even come close to looking like the pics.
Sox.
Definitely fake photos. One has long hair and in another is just a little past shoulders. Who's going to be the brave one? I'm going to say she won't even come close to looking like the pics.
Sox.I called, no answer, left a message. Text also and haven't heard back. I was going to TOFTT.
I didn't ask for BBBJ I usually bring my own cover and unless I'm dealing with a someone I've seen many times in the past then I will consider asking for a bb service I will hoever go back to see her either today or tomorrow, feels good to have some extra cash around this time of year, I hope she does allow FS because of her looks it will feel like I'm banging my neighbor's daughter.
Just searched the place it looks to be on Taft and the trail. Same light as Sams clubs. Very close to me I may have to check out.Me thinks Ivy is a myth. I went there and hey said she has boyfriend now.
Any of you remember rub providers Scarlet (Latin chick athletic build) over in WP area along with Bee and a few others such as Bianca, Sonia (Ukraine, blonde hair). Hoping that one of you bros out there can share any info if they still provide services. Kind of a long shot but doesn't hurt to ask.
SplitLickity1
02-18-19, 15:25
Was driving down Colonial today and my car automatically pulled into the BO parking lot. It was the craziest thing ever but I figured since I'm already here I might as well make the best of it. I walked in and was greeted by the incredibly beautiful Snow. She says "I have a new girl I want you to try" and who am I to argue with Snow. Went into one of the rooms and in walks this very young very beautiful girl named Cherry. She walks up to me and gave me a hug and a very soft DFK and I knew right then I was in for a great time. We go to the TS in the back and she proceeded to give me one of the best B2 Bs I've ever had. After that she did some TUMA followed by a very nice BBBJ. Had to wrap it up because the place was very busy and Snow was knocking on the wall. This didn't stop Cherry as she drops to her knees and proceeds to attack my cock again! I actually had to pick her up and walk her out so we didn't get in trouble. Back in the room I lay her on the table and proceed to lick and suck her entire body. By the time I made it to her sweet spot she was already very wet. I enjoyed DATY for around 10 minutes and then it was time for the main event. Suited up and enjoyed her in several positions but ended up back in the stand mish position so I could admire her beautiful natural body. Finally filled the hat and we were both worn out and just laid there for a few minutes. She said "you mad me cum too much now I don't want to work!" I laughed and told he that I was sure she'd be ok. The place was completely full with a guy waiting in the laundry room so I guess she didn't get a break. Oh well maybe next time Cherry! She did say she was only going to be tyhere for 10 more days so I'd hurry if I were you because you don't want to miss this one.
Had time in the morning, stopped at a local place. Was just planning on getting some headache relief, but the provider got to into it and slipped it in! I was surprised af but I went with it. When I was close to finishing I pulled out and said let me finish in your mouth. She starts again with the headache and I tell her I'm about to bust she ninjas herself back onto me and I bust inside. WTF? Never in all my years has that happened so now I'm scared I fucked up and it'll come back to haunt me.Relax, not likely anything to worry about. If it makes you feel any better just ask your doctor to run the full spectrum of tests in 90 days. But where was this so the rest of us can be careful 😂?
What's up with Tokyo in Longwood? Been their several times and still a sign on door says under construction.Tokyo is on vacation as far as I can tell. Whether its permanent remains to be seen. Ever since Sara left and retired Tokyo CERTAINLY hasnt been the same. About 150 yards north on the same side of the street as Tokyo is NATURAL THERAPY. Give them a shot bro. Yoko is a tiny little back walker and Linda is a spicy little number who will allow DATY during the HE. Cheers!
Definitely fake photos. One has long hair and in another is just a little past shoulders. Who's going to be the brave one? I'm going to say she won't even come close to looking like the pics.
Sox.Those are clearly different chicks in the pictures. I'm calling BS on this one LOL.
Anyone know if Mya is still around? I only get to Orlando occasionally, and the # I had for her. Haven't heard anything back yet. Mature, latina massage. She was unreal. Thanks in advance -.She went silent a few months ago. She told me she was going to go legit. She mentioned working at one of the chain massage places by the Loop.
Just moved to Orlando a few months ago. Had a question.
In the rooms at BO vs GG, which one has more light? I don't really like it when it's super dark LOL.
Thanks,
Bizz.
Redsox2005
02-18-19, 19:25
They are both lit like regular massage rooms. It ain't like going into a haunted house. LOL.
Sox.
Just moved to Orlando a few months ago. Had a question.
In the rooms at BO vs GG, which one has more light? I don't really like it when it's super dark LOL.
Thanks,
Bizz.
They are both lit like regular massage rooms. It ain't like going into a haunted house. LOL.
Sox.Hahaha.
There are some in Jacksonville that are so dark, I can't even see my own dick.
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Relax, not likely anything to worry about. If it makes you feel any better just ask your doctor to run the full spectrum of tests in 90 days. But where was this so the rest of us can be careful 😂?Yeah, add me to the curious list.
ShortlinerRico
02-19-19, 00:39
AMP's aren't my first choice but they were convenient. Went in there last Friday, I was the second costumer. I drew a girl I've never seen there before. Paid the. 8 door fee. A incredibly hot and beautiful Korean girl came in with large c's maybe d's. Mid 20's. I'm not used to this type of girl at all. It was basically full menu from the start. All covered but much worth it. 20 minutes into my one hour I was done. She knew what I came for so I went on my way.
Does anyone know if Anya is still in Orlando?She's still around I reached out to her old number and she replied.
They are both lit like regular massage rooms. It ain't like going into a haunted house. LOL.
Sox.I went to GG the other day and it was pretty bright. All lights were on in the room.
Tokyo is on vacation as far as I can tell. Whether its permanent remains to be seen. Ever since Sara left and retired Tokyo CERTAINLY hasnt been the same. About 150 yards north on the same side of the street as Tokyo is NATURAL THERAPY. Give them a shot bro. Yoko is a tiny little back walker and Linda is a spicy little number who will allow DATY during the HE. Cheers!I went to Tokyo long time ago and it was a good place to go. Now my question is when you said north of Tokyo. Do you mean in direction to Lake Mary Sanford? I saw a new place on a strip mall just before the Seminole State College in 1792. I think is Lake Mary. Is that's the one that you are talking about? I want to try it but I am afraid that they don't offer any extras.
PeterBoris
02-19-19, 11:33
Any full service AMP's in this area?
Redsox2005
02-19-19, 12:04
None, stick to the ones that are repeatedly reported on here and you'll be good to go.
Sox.
Any full service AMP's in this area?
ToyTundra2006
02-19-19, 12:06
Might want to try li on 27 in 4 corners. She seems to be receptive.
Stay safe.
Any full service AMP's in this area?
I went to Tokyo long time ago and it was a good place to go. Now my question is when you said north of Tokyo. Do you mean in direction to Lake Mary Sanford? I saw a new place on a strip mall just before the Seminole State College in 1792. I think is Lake Mary. Is that's the one that you are talking about? I want to try it but I am afraid that they don't offer any extras.If you are on 17-92 heading towards lake Mary / Sanford you are passing Tokyo Spa on your right. Literally 500 feet past Tokyo beyond the car repair place on the same side of the street is a red building with a green sign that reads "Natural Therapy. " That's the place. Pull in the driveway and go around the back. I park on the right next to a little shed so the fence hides my car a bit. The door to Natural Therapy is the first door. Ring the bell and they will let you in.
The place in the strip mall on the left side of 17-92 across from home depot is non-erotic. That one is in Casselberry not Lake Mary. If there is another place on 17-92 closer to LK Mary I am unaware of what they do.
Good luck chief!
She's still around I reached out to her old number and she replied.Who is Anya? I'm always on the lookout for a good non-AMP massage. Any assistance is appreciated.
You are so true.
Thank you for this post. Quoting you so that other newbies can use this.
Helped me identify and locate BO. I assumed BO was short for rainbow at first:-p although it would've still been a good one based on the reviews here. Called and asked for Cherry, Snow told me she's available and asked me to come over.
Went there and she was busy, got Nina instead. She was worth every penny. Wish It was an hour long instead of 45 min, I felt round 2 was a bit rushed.
This unfortunate circumstance happens on quite a regular basis, in spite of the fact that the desired information is readily available right within this thread. The PROBLEM is that this thread is SO chatty and active that, when the needed info gets posted (as it's about to be again in the coming paragraphs), that info is quickly buried 20 or 30 pages down, even though it's only a few days or weeks old. In between those detailed posts, the rest of us regular readers fall into the convenient habit of our familiar (yet cryptic to new readers) acronyms and short-hand-speak. So, following is some basic info on all that cryptography, and I invite anyone to point to this post in the future when the next guy reports that he's totally befuddled by our jibberish.
If you spent, literally, HOURS scanning the Orlando MP Thread, you eventually learn that there are 3 to 4 AMP's in Orlando that are, basically, total nymphomaniacal erotica factories, and are subject of probably 70% to 90% of the posts. These places, itemized further down, provide remarkably consistent service levels, including BBBJ, usually TUMA, sometimes even Greek. Generally speaking you won't see a cover until JUST before the mount, but before that, you'll experience the attendant's tongue and mouth going places you'll seldom see at other places, as early as ON THE WAY to the Table Shower (and during, often including body-to-body slide shower techniques), and the oral portion of the session goes on for a good, long, pleasurable time. MSOG is often on the table, more so than not, if you're able to manage such feats. What you should NOT be looking for is much in the way of a massage!
In the Orlando area, what we sometimes call the Big 4 are as follows -.
Golden Gate (aka GG), on N.Semoran, less than a half mile south of E.Colonial, or, less than a mile away is:
Blue Ocean (aka BO), on E.Colonial about a half mile west of N.Semoran (do NOT park in front of the 'Gecko' Insurance building next door!). While further south is:
Kissimmee Massage Spa (aka KMS) on John Young Pkwy (aka "JYP"), just south of SR192 This place is often, and erroneously, referred to as WB for it's former name, Well Body Spa.
The one place with a bit more of a YMMV factor, but still reportedly leaps and bounds better than any other place in the Orlando area, is:
U-Massage, on the north side of Vineland Rd, just west of Kirkman. Parking is good in an open lot of a small strip-shopping-center. While it's working, you can try this website: https://u-massage-and-spa.business.site/
Pricing is reportedly consistent at 80+160 per hour FS, however, BO and KMS are now doing 45 minute sessions (no drop off in service, just speeding up the production line) for 60+140. I wouldn't be surprised to see GG following suit, as there seems to be intense competition among these places, which would seem to be at least part of what's leading each one to try to "out do" the other with ever more incredible wildness of services!
Since board RULES prohibit posting of street addresses or phone numbers, AND since BackPage advertising links are no longer available, new readers will need to use the "general" location description information given above for GG, BO, and KMS, and try some pertinent Google searches. Phone numbers and addresses can easily be devined in this manner. Searches conducted through rubmaps often produce helpful information as well.
Good luck all you out of-towners (and yes, we know we're very lucky to have these places in Orlando while you have comparitively "crap" AMP's in your city. Some exceptions apply).
I make it to Orlando about once a year and last year after much research I decided to give GG a try. Big thanks to Bigstar1 and MT314 for providing much needed additional info prior to my visit.
Reason for the post is that I am not sure they care whether you have been to their establishment before or not and would like to get some confirmation from the other members. Case in point, when I went to GG I drew a spinner Korean girl who told me her name was Emily (I actually can't remember the name she gave me) and she asked me if I had been there before and who I had seen. I was really wanting the GG experience I had red about and was afraid that if I had said no, I would have been SOL, so I told her yes and that I had seen Pandora. She started to giggle and the told me that she was really Pandora, but change her "stage name". Oh sh#t I thought, I'm screwed. Long story short, I had the time of my life and am looking forward to repeat in a few weeks. So, when I go to BO or Kissimmee should I just fess up and admit it's the first time?
Looking forward to hopefully meeting Momo or Yuki. Do not mind bolt ones if they are on a nice slim & pretty package, so any suggestions are appreciated.
Thanks.
Gator.
She's still around I reached out to her old number and she replied.I've literally been trying to get a hold of her again via email for a year and she responded only once. Can you PM me her digits? Thanks.
Bizz.
I just moved to Orlando about two months ago so I have been really excited to try new AMPs. The ones we had back in Jacksonville are absolute trash.
Anyway, I arrived on Monday around 1930 but the lot was full. Decided to do some shopping and get back around 2100. Lot was even more full with eight cars so I waited fifteen minutes. I opened the front door around 2115 and slipped 2 bens to Snow. She kept calling me oppa. Thought that was awesome because she knew my culture.
Waited in the waiting room until 2145 and was greeted by a petite woman, medium length black hair, bolt-ons, and a pretty face. She looks to be late 20's/early 30s. She was honestly pretty nice to me during the whole session.
Went to the table shower and saw a monger sitting in the room before the ts with a towel over his head facing me LOL. I can't believe how many of you go here every day. The table shower was calm and relaxing. Flipped and received BBBJ with water in her mouth. Honestly sucked that the BBBJ only lasted about 90 seconds in the shower and only 60 seconds in the room. Too short for me. She washed the shit out of my backside, used antibacterial soap on my hands, and mouthwash. I actually love that about BO. Snow actually does a fantastic job managing the parlor.
Got back to the room and asked if rim was ok. I said yes and got like a tongue bath all over my body. It felt pretty nice. Then the rim came for about two minutes. Longer than the BBBJ and she wasn't half-assing it. No pun intended. After the rim, flipped and asked if I like to DATY. 69 with her on top while she BBBJ for 60 seconds before putting on the cover. RCG to CG to DS to MS to RCG where I blew in the hat. She took off the cover and cleaned me with a wet towel. I didn't get to pop twice but I'm pretty sure I would've if the BBBJ was longer than 60 seconds in the TS.
Snow knocked on the door and opened it while the other girl was helping me get dressed. I love the attitude the ladies have toward us at BO. Again, Snow really does a great job managing this parlor. So many parlors in Jacksonville, you come face to face with other mongers and even have to wait in the same room sometimes. It's ridiculous.
Overall experience for my first time at BO was nice. Way better compared to anything I've had in Jacksonville. But I would really like to try someone different next time... Maybe Snow herself? :)
FartingCows
02-19-19, 22:49
I just moved to Orlando about two months ago so I have been really excited to try new AMPs. The ones we had back in Jacksonville are absolute trash.
Anyway, I arrived on Monday around 1930 but the lot was full. Decided to do some shopping and get back around 2100. Lot was even more full with eight cars so I waited fifteen minutes. I opened the front door around 2115 and slipped 2 bens to Snow. She kept calling me oppa. Thought that was awesome because she knew my culture.
Waited in the waiting room until 2145 and was greeted by a petite woman, medium length black hair, bolt-ons, and a pretty face. She looks to be late 20's/early 30s. She was honestly pretty nice to me during the whole session.
Went to the table shower and saw a monger sitting in the room before the ts with a towel over his head facing me LOL. I can't believe how many of you go here every day. The table shower was calm and relaxing. Flipped and received BBBJ with water in her mouth. Honestly sucked that the BBBJ only lasted about 90 seconds in the shower and only 60 seconds in the room. Too short for me. She washed the shit out of my backside, used antibacterial soap on my hands, and mouthwash. I actually love that about BO. Snow actually does a fantastic job managing the parlor.
Got back to the room and asked if rim was ok. I said yes and got like a tongue bath all over my body. It felt pretty nice. Then the rim came for about two minutes. Longer than the BBBJ and she wasn't half-assing it. No pun intended. After the rim, flipped and asked if I like to DATY. 69 with her on top while she BBBJ for 60 seconds before putting on the cover. RCG to CG to DS to MS to RCG where I blew in the hat. She took off the cover and cleaned me with a wet towel. I didn't get to pop twice but I'm pretty sure I would've if the BBBJ was longer than 60 seconds in the TS.
Snow knocked on the door and opened it while the other girl was helping me get dressed. I love the attitude the ladies have toward us at BO. Again, Snow really does a great job managing this parlor. So many parlors in Jacksonville, you come face to face with other mongers and even have to wait in the same room sometimes. It's ridiculous.
Overall experience for my first time at BO was nice. Way better compared to anything I've had in Jacksonville. But I would really like to try someone different next time... Maybe Snow herself? :)Did you get her name?
Lebowski69
02-20-19, 00:38
Was looking for a nice rub with finish and called Natural to set an appointment with Linda. Was told she was no longer there. Try new girl. Since I haven't had good vibes from the other provider I declined and went over to BO for plan B. Met Snow at the door and she recognized me and led me to the room. In comes Star a petite 20 something Chinese girl with large bolt ons. Usual fantastic TS with soapy boob massage. I'm not into BBBJ at these places so opted for CBJ back in the room. Star performed admirably on the CBJ for several min then hops on to for some CG, RCG, finally told her I wanted to drive and finished with a nice mish into doggy. She was extremely passionate and seemed to be into what she was doing. After we finished she cleaned me up and gave me a nice massage as well. All in all it seems to be worth the extra drive to BO if only they massaged as good as Tina and Linda at NT it would be the best place on earth. Let me know if Linda is truly gone at Natural and who replaced her like that place just didn't get into her counterpart.
Happy mongering.
The dude abides.
So True.
Am quoting you to make your post more visible to other travellers or newbies.
Tried BO. Called in asked for Cherry before going in but she wasn't available when I reached there. I was given Nina (instead who was amazing.
Price as you mentioned is two large ones for 45 min, everything included, and I mean everything.
The only shortcoming, pun intended, was it could have been longer at 1 hr.
This unfortunate circumstance happens on quite a regular basis, in spite of the fact that the desired information is readily available right within this thread. The PROBLEM is that this thread is SO chatty and active that, when the needed info gets posted (as it's about to be again in the coming paragraphs), that info is quickly buried 20 or 30 pages down, even though it's only a few days or weeks old. In between those detailed posts, the rest of us regular readers fall into the convenient habit of our familiar (yet cryptic to new readers) acronyms and short-hand-speak. So, following is some basic info on all that cryptography, and I invite anyone to point to this post in the future when the next guy reports that he's totally befuddled by our jibberish.
If you spent, literally, HOURS scanning the Orlando MP Thread, you eventually learn that there are 3 to 4 AMP's in Orlando that are, basically, total nymphomaniacal erotica factories, and are subject of probably 70% to 90% of the posts. These places, itemized further down, provide remarkably consistent service levels, including BBBJ, usually TUMA, sometimes even Greek. Generally speaking you won't see a cover until JUST before the mount, but before that, you'll experience the attendant's tongue and mouth going places you'll seldom see at other places, as early as ON THE WAY to the Table Shower (and during, often including body-to-body slide shower techniques), and the oral portion of the session goes on for a good, long, pleasurable time. MSOG is often on the table, more so than not, if you're able to manage such feats. What you should NOT be looking for is much in the way of a massage!
In the Orlando area, what we sometimes call the Big 4 are as follows -.
Golden Gate (aka GG), on N.Semoran, less than a half mile south of E.Colonial, or, less than a mile away is:
Blue Ocean (aka BO), on E.Colonial about a half mile west of N.Semoran (do NOT park in front of the 'Gecko' Insurance building next door!). While further south is:
Kissimmee Massage Spa (aka KMS) on John Young Pkwy (aka "JYP"), just south of SR192 This place is often, and erroneously, referred to as WB for it's former name, Well Body Spa.
The one place with a bit more of a YMMV factor, but still reportedly leaps and bounds better than any other place in the Orlando area, is:
U-Massage, on the north side of Vineland Rd, just west of Kirkman. Parking is good in an open lot of a small strip-shopping-center. While it's working, you can try this website: https://u-massage-and-spa.business.site/
Pricing is reportedly consistent at 80+160 per hour FS, however, BO and KMS are now doing 45 minute sessions (no drop off in service, just speeding up the production line) for 60+140. I wouldn't be surprised to see GG following suit, as there seems to be intense competition among these places, which would seem to be at least part of what's leading each one to try to "out do" the other with ever more incredible wildness of services!
Since board RULES prohibit posting of street addresses or phone numbers, AND since BackPage advertising links are no longer available, new readers will need to use the "general" location description information given above for GG, BO, and KMS, and try some pertinent Google searches. Phone numbers and addresses can easily be devined in this manner. Searches conducted through rubmaps often produce helpful information as well.
Good luck all you out of-towners (and yes, we know we're very lucky to have these places in Orlando while you have comparitively "crap" AMP's in your city. Some exceptions apply).
If you are on 17-92 heading towards lake Mary / Sanford you are passing Tokyo Spa on your right. Literally 500 feet past Tokyo beyond the car repair place on the same side of the street is a red building with a green sign that reads "Natural Therapy. " That's the place. Pull in the driveway and go around the back. I park on the right next to a little shed so the fence hides my car a bit. The door to Natural Therapy is the first door. Ring the bell and they will let you in.
The place in the strip mall on the left side of 17-92 across from home depot is non-erotic. That one is in Casselberry not Lake Mary. If there is another place on 17-92 closer to LK Mary I am unaware of what they do.
Good luck chief!Thank You For the information. The place that I am talking about is going north on 1792 after the intersection of Ronald Reagan. There is a strip Mall on the right. It have a charter school there is a massage sign and they are open in the evening hours. I will try to gather some intel and I will post it later.
So, when I go to BO or Kissimmee should I just fess up and admit it's the first time?Because of the somewhat unique situation in Orlando, with all three of the major wildly full-service AMP's knowing each other so well, and their seeming tendency to be SO competitive with one another, my view is that the very best way to answer that question is to say exactly this:
I haven't been HERE before because I usually go to Golden Gate, but a buddy of mine suggested I try here to see if it's any better!
Those precise words assume you're standing in BO or KMS, so you would use Blue Ocean if you're actually standing in GG.
This type of response accomplishes a number of objectives: 1. You don't have to LIE about being there before. 2. You still get credibility as an experienced customer, and, most importantly, 3. You have just "inspired" the mamasan or attendant to make damn sure you have a BETTER time than when you go to their competition!
SplitLickity1
02-20-19, 16:37
Because of the somewhat unique situation in Orlando, with all three of the major wildly full-service AMP's knowing each other so well, and their seeming tendency to be SO competitive with one another, my view is that the very best way to answer that question is to say exactly this:
I haven't been HERE before because I usually go to Golden Gate, but a buddy of mine suggested I try here to see if it's any better!
Those precise words assume you're standing in BO or KMS, so you would use Blue Ocean if you're actually standing in GG.
This type of response accomplishes a number of objectives: 1. You don't have to LIE about being there before. 2. You still get credibility as an experienced customer, and, most importantly, 3. You have just "inspired" the mamasan or attendant to make damn sure you have a BETTER time than when you go to their competition!I have used this very tactic several times and it does work most times. Even if you have been there before use this tactic if asked.
If you are on 17-92 heading towards lake Mary / Sanford you are passing Tokyo Spa on your right. Literally 500 feet past Tokyo beyond the car repair place on the same side of the street is a red building with a green sign that reads "Natural Therapy. " That's the place. Pull in the driveway and go around the back. I park on the right next to a little shed so the fence hides my car a bit. The door to Natural Therapy is the first door. Ring the bell and they will let you in.
The place in the strip mall on the left side of 17-92 across from home depot is non-erotic. That one is in Casselberry not Lake Mary. If there is another place on 17-92 closer to LK Mary I am unaware of what they do.
Good luck chief!I have read one post asking if anyone had been to the location that you question near Seminole State college. It's on the left side of the road as you head north. If it hasn't been reported on it's probably not worth the visit. But you could stop and do some recon and report back. I don't believe there is a name on the building just the massage sign.
Today I was heading home from work and I decided to spot by to MPs that for me are new. I just wanted just to check out the places and the prices. First one that I stop is an MP let located in Semoran Blvd going north London ke one mile before 1792. The MP is located just before Bravo Supermarket on the strip mall. I went in and a Asian lady came up its loo like Mamasan and I ask her how much for the Hr and she told me 80. My gut feeling tells me that that one probably will offer some extras.
The other one is going north 1792 after the interception Ronald Reagan on strip mall and on the left. Just before the Seminole State college entrance. I went in and a Asian lady came out and she told me that for the HR is 70. The name is Professional Moonlight message. So there you have it. If anybody have more info about this 2 places let me know. It will be nice if I have something close to home.
LarryLuftig87
02-20-19, 18:26
Thank You For the information. The place that I am talking about is going north on 1792 after the intersection of Ronald Reagan. There is a strip Mall on the right. It have a charter school there is a massage sign and they are open in the evening hours. I will try to gather some intel and I will post it later.Does this place offer DATY, DFK, BBBJ?
Where exactly is it? Is it on same side of 1792 as Publix before seminole state?
Are the rates decent?
Because of the somewhat unique situation in Orlando, with all three of the major wildly full-service AMP's knowing each other so well, and their seeming tendency to be SO competitive with one another, my view is that the very best way to answer that question is to say exactly this:
I haven't been HERE before because I usually go to Golden Gate, but a buddy of mine suggested I try here to see if it's any better!
Those precise words assume you're standing in BO or KMS, so you would use Blue Ocean if you're actually standing in GG.
This type of response accomplishes a number of objectives: 1. You don't have to LIE about being there before. 2. You still get credibility as an experienced customer, and, most importantly, 3. You have just "inspired" the mamasan or attendant to make damn sure you have a BETTER time than when you go to their competition!Thanks Mr Bill. It is such a common sense approach that it almost defies logic. Not to steal another's line, but well said. Really appreciate the response to my call for assistance. That is exactly what this board is all about.
Thanks again,
Gator.
Searcher52
02-20-19, 22:00
Yuki / Vivian combo.
Was going to pass since 4 vehicles in parking lot when I drove by (I always do recon first) but I parked across the street to text once I was done other mongers left so I went ahead and went in. I think Shelly greated me if I remember her name right (I've seen her once before) . I asked for Yuki she took me back Nice TS with body slide and hydro clean JR. Nice new table shower very solid. Back at the room Vivian came in got right to it. Didn't worry about massage wasn't really there for it. Multiple alphabet combos were had. I love how V talks dirty the whole time. Total turn on. I also lay the tip out ahead of time so we don't have that issue but I only do it at KMS or of course BO, Snow takes it up front anyway. I always have a great time here. I will return on my next O town trip. I'm lucky I get here about every other month or so since my area sucks ass for AMPs.
MonkeyLove69
02-20-19, 23:53
Yuki / Vivian combo.
Was going to pass since 4 vehicles in parking lot when I drove by (I always do recon first) but I parked across the street to text once I was done other mongers left so I went ahead and went in. I think Shelly greated me if I remember her name right (I've seen her once before) . I asked for Yuki she took me back Nice TS with body slide and hydro clean JR. Nice new table shower very solid. Back at the room Vivian came in got right to it. Didn't worry about massage wasn't really there for it. Multiple alphabet combos were had. I love how V talks dirty the whole time. Total turn on. I also lay the tip out ahead of time so we don't have that issue but I only do it at KMS or of course BO, Snow takes it up front anyway. I always have a great time here. I will return on my next O town trip. I'm lucky I get here about every other month or so since my area sucks ass for AMPs.I don't think it was Yuki, she was going to leave for a month.
Mongol1266
02-21-19, 00:57
Dreamt I went to 88 formerly Avalon massage off Vineland. Was met by a cute girl at front, probably late 20's early 30's, of respectably large size in a low-cut top, who told me her name was Sugar (very heavy accent, Taiwanese, only realized what she had said after I left LOL). Brought me back and said it was. 6 for hhr. Left, came back, said I wanted ts and she seem surprised but said it was ok, led me to ts room and started heating up water while we talked a bit, pretty broken English but very pretty face, was ok with light touching. Got down and got a nice back wash, she used a lot of soap suds (which was new to me, but enjoyed) and focused on the lower thigh / back of balls area which was pretty nice. Kind of gave me like a pat on the back, but elsewhere a few times, was to let me know what she'd be into doing I guess, and said to turn over. Flip was nothing special, more washing. Led back to room and got a towel draped over me and a good back massage for a few minutes, drape came off and she began negotiation. Said it was. 6 for a handshake and she was open to more. Negotiated down to. 4 and she shook my hand very well, 'cause that's what I like and all I wanted. Whole experience was probably closer to 20 than 30 minutes. The only thing, though: I asked to use the restroom after, and she led me to the restroom, and as I was being relieved I saw a fucking wasp chilling on the ceiling and had to stealth-walk out (fucking hate wasps / bees). Took a photo but it was blurry. Told girl, who didn't know what I was saying in English, who brought me to whom I assume is mamasan at front (30's black hair plain looking) and said hey there's a wasp in your end restroom, she told other girl in Chinese and look on her face made my night. Ran into another monger on way out, hope he didn't use wrong restroom. Stay safe, lads.
-Mongol.
Does this place offer DATY, DFK, BBBJ?
Where exactly is it? Is it on same side of 1792 as Publix before seminole state?
Are the rates decent?I did some intel yesterday. They charge 70 hr but I don't think they offer any extras.
Don't waist your time on this one.
Searcher52
02-21-19, 07:16
I don't think it was Yuki, she was going to leave for a month.It's a fact that it was Yuki. Don't know if she left again but as of 2 weeks ago when I visited she was there. I asked about a few of the other girls I've seen before and if she was going to stick around a while and she told me she would. I would love to get her and Mimi in a 4 hand.
DarkKnight2K
02-21-19, 09:06
It's a fact that it was Yuki. Don't know if she left again but as of 2 weeks ago when I visited she was there. I asked about a few of the other girls I've seen before and if she was going to stick around a while and she told me she would. I would love to get her and Mimi in a 4 hand.Yuki and Mimi in a 4 hand was one of the most memorable dreams I've had. Happy hunting.
LarryLuftig87
02-21-19, 09:54
Thank You For the information. The place that I am talking about is going north on 1792 after the intersection of Ronald Reagan. There is a strip Mall on the right. It have a charter school there is a massage sign and they are open in the evening hours. I will try to gather some intel and I will post it later.Anyone have the 4-1-1 on this place? Do they offer extras? Are the chicks hot?
CowboyRob0311
02-21-19, 11:32
Don't need the individual reports because we get plenty of those. But I know many sometimes struggle as to which one to go to.
My recent two trips to GG have left a lot to be desired. It seems they have really "let themselves go". My most recent trip, they put me in the side bathroom while I waited for a room and it was one of the most disgusting areas I have had to wait in. Smelled like pure urine in there. Then while in the table shower, they let a guy in completely naked walk right on in to take a piss. They were quick to get him out. But what happened to the days of avoiding contact between visitors? My other gripe is they don't seem to have the same standards that OB has lately with making sure both parties use mouth wash, washing down hands nice and well, etc.
I always tend to end up at GG because it is slightly closer, but finally decided to make the few extra miles over the BO most recent times and I am really glad I did. With the 45 minutes for same price of 30 at GG, and the cleaner and more professional environment, hard to see myself going back to GG anytime soon.
And to the dude that walked in on my TS. Why did you not walk away when you realized? Come on dude! Hah.I totally agree with you about GG. The place is a pit and the girls seems used up and spent. BO, you, and Kiss are the places to go. GG should close the doors.
SpecialOne8
02-21-19, 11:40
Pay close attention to the AMP thread today! Seems like Uncle has figured a way to get video surveillance into the AMPs down in Treasure Coast. We can't be far off from this new tactic!
BEWARE!
I read comments in the news section but come on this wouldn't be the first time they've done it it's old tactics but in the past probable cause was something they insisted on now it seems that they will do it just because it's an AMP and what they symbolize in American culture, clueless greedy providers + clueless careless customers make for a dangerous combo.
Pay close attention to the AMP thread today! Seems like Uncle has figured a way to get video surveillance into the AMPs down in Treasure Coast. We can't be far off from this new tactic!
BEWARE!
Woke up this morning feeling kind of uneasy, Figured I'd hit the usual spot WB. Walked in and out runs Vivian into my arms. Door fee and on to the room we go. Some small talk she heads out and I get ready for the TS. As soon as I walk in she drops the towel tells me to lay face up. I looked at her kind of puzzled but I followed the instructions. Boy was I in for a treat, as soon as the water started flowing she hopped on top, started with some BBBJ and dt. She told me she missed me and was excited to see me again. Finished up in the TS and back to the room we go. I lay down for the usual massage, which she is really good at by the way!
Half hour later I can just feel the warmth and saliva dripping onto the guys. On the flip back to some bbbjdt, Cover slides on and we proceed to speak a couple languages. Finished in mish! Walks out comes back in to clean up with a bottle in Hand.
Managed to get away from the SO for a couple hours and made the short trip to you-Massage since I was staying near universal.
Got there and Diamond led me back to the room. Only saw 1 other girl working and I was glad I pulled Diamond. Cute, friendly little thing. Let me see the goods before I even paid the house fee. She took me to the table shower and did a fair job washing me but did not strip down and join in like BO or GG. I was hoping for a similar experience I had at those 2 places. She kissed junior a few times during the shower, but that was all. Got back to the room and asked her to disrobe and she asked me to pay tip upfront. Wanted $1.6 so I was hoping again for a BO or GG experience. Preceded to BBBJ and followed directions well, let me dine at the why and seemed to enjoy it. Popped on a cap and we were off to the races. She let me CIM for the finish. Still had 15 minutes so she gave me a little massage, it was nice. Finished at the 1 hour mark and I was off. Not a bad experience, but not worth BO or GG money.
Can't wait to get back in May for my week of just me time when I have time to drive to the other side of town.
Bigstar1.
I did some intel yesterday. They charge 70 hr but I don't think they offer any extras.
Don't waist your time on this one.I agree. Great massage but no extras. I took one for the team on this one. I imagine YMMV if you're a regular.
Ok, I know the going rate for a handshake in Orlando but does anyone know the rate for a handshake and prost massage? Feel free to PM me. I typically hit You Mass, near Universal. Thanks.
SplitLickity1
02-21-19, 16:48
At least that's what the sign says.
I read comments in the news section but come on this wouldn't be the first time they've done it it's old tactics but in the past probable cause was something they insisted on now it seems that they will do it just because it's an AMP and what they symbolize in American culture, clueless greedy providers + clueless careless customers make for a dangerous combo.Heed the warnings at least for now, be careful out there. Evidently based on human trafficking and they have busted patrons as participants in the trafficking according to the news. Be safe.
AncientOne
02-21-19, 17:48
Pay close attention to the AMP thread today! Seems like Uncle has figured a way to get video surveillance into the AMPs down in Treasure Coast. We can't be far off from this new tactic!
BEWARE!To wear my Groucho Marx mask the whole visit.
A little birdie told me there are many upgrades. All the latest hi tech gadgets have been added. Just you never mind all those new hidden cameras and microphones in the lobby, the TS rooms and the massage rooms. And don't forget about the new hi-def surveillance cameras and the license plate readers now installed in the parking area. All courtesy of the new owners, Uncle LEO and the Auntie MBI. Wink! LOL!
At least that's what the sign says.
Anyone have the pleasure of seeing her now that she is advertising again? Same services as before?
Appreciate brother I really do as do other mongers, being in our toes stays the same and those of us who are more careful than others don't see this sting as something to fear, the careless ones have to, it isn't new that owners plant cams or mics, or that cops are placing cams inside spas either not just inside but outside too, the providers have been warned in the past but they just sit on their ass watching moving waiting for the next dick to jack instead of getting together and finding news ways of staying safe. While human trafficking is a real thing I'm sure 99.9% of the Johns going in and out are just trying to bust a nut things are about to go from bad to worse only because providers are much too greedy to spend some money in doing things that will help them a little to be out of LEOs radar.
Heed the warnings at least for now, be careful out there. Evidently based on human trafficking and they have busted patrons as participants in the trafficking according to the news. Be safe.
DarkKnight2K
02-22-19, 08:28
Anyone have the pleasure of seeing her now that she is advertising again? Same services as before?Where is she advertising? Please provide a link.
Explorer11
02-22-19, 08:39
http://www.walb.com/2019/02/22/huge-florida-sex-trafficking-sting-results-nearly-arrests-warrants-with-more-still-coming/
Indian River
02-22-19, 09:26
Appreciate brother I really do as do other mongers, being in our toes stays the same and those of us who are more careful than others don't see this sting as something to fear, the careless ones have to, it isn't new that owners plant cams or mics, or that cops are placing cams inside spas either not just inside but outside too, the providers have been warned in the past but they just sit on their ass watching moving waiting for the next dick to jack instead of getting together and finding news ways of staying safe. While human trafficking is a real thing I'm sure 99.9% of the Johns going in and out are just trying to bust a nut things are about to go from bad to worse only because providers are much too greedy to spend some money in doing things that will help them a little to be out of LEOs radar.What about the "expectation of privacy" rule. True the spa is a public business but if you are in a private room you deserve your right to privacy. Any other approach would require a warrant from a judge. That is like putting a cam in a rest room. There are rules here. Could be a good court case regarding your right to privacy. Also when on camera most time it's is the table. You paying the therapist may not be. You are in trouble only if you admit to paying or they have you paying on camera. Always denie paying. Say she is a friend. My opinion.
DarkKnight2K
02-22-19, 09:28
Nice dream one evening this week. In the dream, found myself at Spa Serenity. Paid mamasan. 8 for hr massage and led back to room. Cocoa / Koko / Coco (sometimes I wish they had nametags) came in and I was immediately pleased. Not a good judge of height when it comes to short girls, but Cocoa is tiny even by AMP standards, probably between 4'10" and 5'. Immediately thought to myself "I'm going to break her", but she proved more durable than appearances belied. Late 20's / early 30's, pretty face, nice fake boobs, flat belly and a superior posterior.
TS was good, but not the best I've had. Thorough cleaning, LFK, attention to the boys, no rimming, but some good BBBJ to tease. As soon as we were back in room, confirmed service levels and handed donation $ . 6 over. Tried to negotiate down to $ . 2 to no avail, but I don't make a big deal out of it given it was my first visit to SS. Massage was decent, Cocoa used her knees on my back which actually loosened up my stiff neck, and some B2 B as well while she nibbled my ear before the flip. Flipped and there was plenty of BBBJ, and she slid around for some DATY 69 while working on Junior for several minutes.
Cocoa slipped on the cover slyly with her mouth during the BJ, mounted me CG and was glove tight. She pounded away on me, stopping only to spin around on Junior 360 degrees like a Tilt-a-whirl for RCG then back to CG. We switched to mish and I continued railing away, adding some light choking while fucking her slow and deep. If she didn't have an O here, her acting skills are Academy worthy. Heard the door at least 2-3 times and a few fellow mongers in trying to beat the clock. Think Cocoa was trying to rush me once the door chimes started, because her already tight kitty clamped me like a vice. No question who was running this show. Less than a minute later, switched back to have her BBBJDT and BBBJCIM for the finish. She hopped up to spit, get dressed and grab a hot towel / water. I had about 10 minutes left on my hour, but she helped me get dressed and walked me out. Awoke from my dream quite refreshed.
SS is a hike but worth the drive. Worth repeating, but $ . 6 donation a bit steep (especially if busy and getting rushed), so going to have to stick to my guns next time.
DK2 K out.
LuvInIt007
02-22-19, 09:59
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2019/02/21/human-trafficking-florida-massage-parlors-vero-beach-sebastian/2944898002/
Orlando too.
Similar to the protests that took place in Tampa many groups have taken the same steps to close down some spas and some of the PDs are working together now to find ways to get rid of them, yes we have right to privacy but come on brother it's 2019 what we expect isn't what we get and specially if they end up making arrests and closing down illegal businesses they can justify it in some ways, it's not like groups or everyday people are coming together to protest against closing down businesses that are used as fronts for. Well you know.
What about the "expectation of privacy" rule. True the spa is a public business but if you are in a private room you deserve your right to privacy. Any other approach would require a warrant from a judge. That is like putting a cam in a rest room. There are rules here. Could be a good court case regarding your right to privacy. Also when on camera most time it's is the table. You paying the therapist may not be. You are in trouble only if you admit to paying or they have you paying on camera. Always denie paying. Say she is a friend. My opinion.
Simplyws32
02-22-19, 11:05
Anyone have the pleasure of seeing her now that she is advertising again? Same services as before?I saw her last month. She is an awesome therapist. Really works what you need. I hadn't seen that she is advertising.
Ding A Ling
02-22-19, 12:04
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2019/02/21/human-trafficking-florida-massage-parlors-vero-beach-sebastian/2944898002/
Orlando too.One of the AMPs that got shutdown. I wonder if the Cops put hidden cameras in this place too? If you've been to Rainbow Spa recently, might want to be on your toes about what could happen to you.
Rainbow Spa: 1809-2 E. Colonial Drive, Orlando.
MadisonGuy69
02-22-19, 12:10
Heed the warnings at least for now, be careful out there. Evidently based on human trafficking and they have busted patrons as participants in the trafficking according to the news. Be safe.The problem with the term human trafficking, it isn't what it use to mean. Now they consider any girl providing anything sexual in exchange for something part of human trafficking. It's really sad for the countries that have true problems. Look at the numbers they use at the super bowl, their are not possible over 100,000 people forced to perform sex acts at the super bowl. But hookers come to town to make money.
I'll say it right now, all those charges are going to be reduced to simple solicitation. They charge them with trafficking then get the headlines.
It happens every year.
A2
https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/local/2019/02/22/new-england-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-charged-soliciting-prostitution-florida-spa/2939429002/
Mclovin407
02-22-19, 13:22
Similar to the protests that took place in Tampa many groups have taken the same steps to close down some spas and some of the PDs are working together now to find ways to get rid of them, yes we have right to privacy but come on brother it's 2019 what we expect isn't what we get and specially if they end up making arrests and closing down illegal businesses they can justify it in some ways, it's not like groups or everyday people are coming together to protest against closing down businesses that are used as fronts for. Well you know.Dang they Got Robert Kraft on video!
Fellow Guy
02-22-19, 13:36
I would be VERY careful about visiting any location right now. The news stories about Jupiter mention an Orange County link to the sting. BASTARDS!!
https://www.bing.com/amp/s/www.twincities.com/2019/02/22/police-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-solicited-prostitute/amp/
Ding A Ling
02-22-19, 13:50
I would be VERY careful about visiting any location right now. The news stories about Jupiter mention an Orange County link to the sting. BASTARDS!!
https://www.bing.com/amp/s/www.twincities.com/2019/02/22/police-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-solicited-prostitute/amp/The press release for the Orlando Spas will be happening shortly.
Ding A Ling
02-22-19, 13:51
If you've visited any Orlando Spas within the past couple of months and done anything illegal at said spa, get your ducks in a row!
https://www.floridatoday.com/story/news/local/2019/02/21/human-trafficking-florida-massage-parlors-vero-beach-sebastian/2944898002/
Orlando too.Probably best to stay away from Orlando shops for a minute. Too bad the girls don't have residences that can be used for incalls. They'd probably make money that way too.
Probably best to stay away from Orlando shops for a minute. Too bad the girls don't have residences that can be used for incalls. They'd probably make money that way too.There goes my afternoon plans. This news sucks, not sure I will be comfortable going back to these locations ever again knowing they are capable of this style sting now.
Ding A Ling
02-22-19, 13:55
Probably best to stay away from Orlando shops for a minute. Too bad the girls don't have residences that can be used for incalls. They'd probably make money that way too.Too late for that, this sting has been going on for months now.
RemingtonSteel
02-22-19, 14:32
Probably best to stay away from Orlando shops for a minute. Too bad the girls don't have residences that can be used for incalls. They'd probably make money that way too.This model can be established anywhere. LE opted to test it out in Jupiter. I'd be careful wherever you go. Really the only safe place are escorts who screen, but that comes with additional costs. Good for the escorts, bad for we customers trying to watch our wallets. Get used to it and plan accordingly.
Steve Pope
02-22-19, 14:54
A little birdie told me there are many upgrades. All the latest hi tech gadgets have been added. Just you never mind all those new hidden cameras and microphones in the lobby, the TS rooms and the massage rooms. And don't forget about the new hi-def surveillance cameras and the license plate readers now installed in the parking area. All courtesy of the new owners, Uncle LEO and the Auntie MBI. Wink! LOL!I was thinking the same thing! They may have to build a police substation next door to process all of the customers. I'm staying away.
According to news reports the police got someone bigger than the Patriots owner, in the prostitution sting. They're getting ready to release the name soon. Stay tune.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/
One of the AMPs that got shutdown. I wonder if the Cops put hidden cameras in this place too? If you've been to Rainbow Spa recently, might want to be on your toes about what could happen to you.
Rainbow Spa: 1809-2 E. Colonial Drive, Orlando.I want to know how they can prove 100% that it's you in the video. Also how the hell did they plant hidden cameras with HD quality without anyone. Anyone noticing? There has to be cameras from the outside that are much more clear and that's what implicates famous people. For the average Joe unless you got a record with your face in the police database I don't see how they will figure out who you are.
ILuvThePussy
02-22-19, 15:58
If they hit GG or BO, its fucked for most of us LOL.
If they hit GG or BO, its fucked for most of us LOL.If they didn't it would surprise me. If it's this easy for us guys to find these posts / threads I'm sure they have an agent or 10 reading / commenting here.
Ding A Ling
02-22-19, 16:02
I want to know how they can prove 100% that it's you in the video. Also how the hell did they plant hidden cameras with HD quality without anyone. Anyone noticing? There has to be cameras from the outside that are much more clear and that's what implicates famous people. For the average Joe unless you got a record with your face in the police database I don't see how they will figure out who you are.Tags / Vehicles and DMV.
Male suspect was observed pulling into parking lot of Blah Blah spa at 7:30 pm, male suspect exited vehicle (a late model Ferrari 488), with tag number * vehicle registration came back to the male suspect later identified as Jake. Jake's identify was confirmed as matching the DMV photo on his drivers license.
HD camera's are tiny now, they can be put under a desk, strapped to a small plant and have batteries that will last for a few hours. Check Amazon for the teeny tiny HD cameras that they have for sale, very easy to hide.
Ding A Ling
02-22-19, 16:04
If they hit GG or BO, its fucked for most of us LOL.Its a FACT that they read the board, they can't use what's said on here against you but it sure steers them in the right direction to what Spas are doing what.
ILuvThePussy
02-22-19, 16:07
If they didn't it would surprise me. If it's this easy for us guys to find these posts / threads I'm sure they have an agent or 10 reading / commenting here.Wonder how long they have kept this up, I went to GG last June, used an Uber to go to the restaurant next door and walked over. Hopefully I'm alright. Probably going to only be mongering outside the country now for sure. Idk how this will effect GG or BO probably wayyy less people now.
UtahLegend
02-22-19, 16:09
It is basically a numbers game! Because every year they are going to have a big bust is just a matter of when they do it and where we are when they do it. There is no way to stop it or prevent it they have to make some bus to make it look like they are doing their job.
According to news reports the police got someone bigger than the Patriots owner, in the prostitution sting. They're getting ready to release the name soon. Stay tune.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/
FlSurfer123
02-22-19, 16:09
I wonder how people will find out if they have a warrant and which counties are involved.
Fellow Guy
02-22-19, 16:10
License plates can help them identify us individually. Remember the old Ocean Spa on JYP? I remember right before they we're raided, there was someone in the parking lot with a notepad. I told the girl inside and never went back. It was just a matter of days before it was busted. Update that to some newer technology, and DONE.
I want to know how they can prove 100% that it's you in the video. Also how the hell did they plant hidden cameras with HD quality without anyone. Anyone noticing? There has to be cameras from the outside that are much more clear and that's what implicates famous people. For the average Joe unless you got a record with your face in the police database I don't see how they will figure out who you are.
Wonder how long they have kept this up, I went to GG last June, used an Uber to go to the restaurant next door and walked over. Hopefully I'm alright. Probably going to only be mongering outside the country now for sure. Idk how this will effect GG or BO probably wayyy less people now.Let's get a group gathering in Thailand 😂.
Same here though. Mongering will be done overseas for now LOL.
I wonder how people will find out if they have a warrant and which counties are involved.http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/restricted/PAS/person/WantedPersons.jsf
License plates can help them identify us individually. Remember the old Ocean Spa on JYP? I remember right before they we're raided, there was someone in the parking lot with a notepad. I told the girl inside and never went back. It was just a matter of days before it was busted. Update that to some newer technology, and DONE.Good point and a great reason to always uber there even if it's from a mile away.
Redsox2005
02-22-19, 16:18
News report says this was an 8 month investigation.
Sox.
FlSurfer123
02-22-19, 16:28
http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/restricted/PAS/person/WantedPersons.jsfWell I'm not on here and I have only frequented locations in seminole county for massages only. So hopefully I'm good.
Member #6033
02-22-19, 16:33
Let's get a group gathering in Thailand 😂.
Same here though. Mongering will be done overseas for now LOL.Prostitution is legal, safe and great in the D are. I have friends who visit once a quarter. Low cost and no Uncles.
TungstenHP
02-22-19, 16:45
http://pas.fdle.state.fl.us/pas/restricted/PAS/person/WantedPersons.jsfJust ran my info and no warrants PHEW! Time to go jerk it to celebrate LOL.
I wonder how people will find out if they have a warrant and which counties are involved.That would be the million dollar question. Currently, the only link to Orlando was that the people involved down south owned a couple in this area as well that were shutdown by association, no mention of those being monitored as part of this sting.
FYI from the best I can determine, the AMPs involved in this latest sting are:
1. East Spa, Gene Street, Winter Park.
2. Rainbow Spa, 1809-2 East Colonial Drive, Orlando.
3. East Spa, Vero Beach.
4. AA Massage, Sebastian.
5. East Sea Spa, Sebastian (unincorporated Indian River County).
6. Orchids of Siam. Jupiter.
7. Bridge Day Spa, Hobe Sound.
8. Sequoia Apple Day Spa, Hobe Sound
9. Therapy Spa, Stuart
10. Cove Day Spa, Stuart
Another thing mentioned was that all Spas involved were opened in the last 3 years.
I hope this relieves some stress for some of you.
SammFunGuy
02-22-19, 17:00
This is why I always thought the pay up front at Bo had its advantage. You don't have to do anything but a LEO check in the beginning. Even if they had cameras in the rooms, there are no negotiations. I wonder what they'll do about that. Either way, ducking down for now. Maybe for good. Stay safe.
SFG.
This is why I always thought the pay up front at Bo had its advantage. You don't have to do anything but a LEO check in the beginning. Even if they had cameras in the rooms, there are no negotiations. I wonder what they'll do about that. Either way, ducking down for now. Maybe for good. Stay safe.
SFG.You would be having sexual intercourse on camera at a licensed massage shop. Does it really matter at that point if the exchange of money is observed? You clearly paid for your visit, so regardless if a tip was discussed feel like you'd be out of luck.
SevenYearMitch
02-22-19, 17:35
Dang they Got Robert Kraft on video!WTF was Mr. Kraft doing in a massage parlor? Dude is a widower worth six fucking BILLION dollars! He could literally write a check for 10 MILLION dollars (equivalent to $100 for a guy making $60,000) and 99.999% of the females on planet Earth would QUICKLY spread their legs for him! If I were him I'd have about 2 dozen supermodels, cheerleaders, porn stars, and ultra highdollar golden pussy providers on call 24/7 for my chauffeur to pick up in my limo, helicopter, private jet or megayacht. I fully understand the urge to get some quick headache relief, but a multibillionaire in a massage parlor? Seriously? C'mon man!
P.S.: Mr. Kraft, if you happen to read this, for a reasonable salary (same as Tom Brady's LOL) I will happily be your full-time "Mongering Consultant" and teach you how to properly up your mongering game, I guarantee you it will be the best investment you've made since buying the Patriots. I make the same offer to Hugh Grant, LOL.
SYM.
Harry Plopper
02-22-19, 18:37
I am betting that the police are going to go after the owners and any high powered mongers like Kraft. This gets headlines, makes it look like they are doing something and scares people. Truthfully that is all the police leadership want. They will just intimidate the small fish into admitting something if they can get it.
My advise is always the same. Walk in, have a great massage and what happens in the room happens. I never ask for it, never say much and never really consent to give money. They just take it from the counter where I placed it and I forget to pick it up. Then I get up and walk out. If I get service great, if not then I post it and never go back. If the popo question you later then just say nothing and ask for your lawyer. Chances are if you did hit up these places that were in the sting then you will never get approached but the police are just trying to make your a $$-hole pucker up.
Will it stop me from going. Hell no.
Stay horny my friends.
Harry P.
I would be VERY careful about visiting any location right now. The news stories about Jupiter mention an Orange County link to the sting. BASTARDS!!
https://www.bing.com/amp/s/www.twincities.com/2019/02/22/police-patriots-owner-robert-kraft-solicited-prostitute/amp/I heard that thwy weren't pursuing because it was deflated.
I am betting that the police are going to go after the owners and any high powered mongers like Kraft. This gets headlines, makes it look like they are doing something and scares people. Truthfully that is all the police leadership want. They will just intimidate the small fish into admitting something if they can get it.
My advise is always the same. Walk in, have a great massage and what happens in the room happens. I never ask for it, never say much and never really consent to give money. They just take it from the counter where I placed it and I forget to pick it up. Then I get up and walk out. If I get service great, if not then I post it and never go back. If the popo question you later then just say nothing and ask for your lawyer. Chances are if you did hit up these places that were in the sting then you will never get approached but the police are just trying to make your a $$-hole pucker up.
Will it stop me from going. Hell no.
Stay horny my friends.
Harry P.My thoughts exactly, hell they will come across one of tjere own and slow down. Being a widower myself I understand kraft, I go to bo or gg or see an escort when I miss the touch of a woman, but damn if I was a billionaire in his position I wouldn't be going to an AMP. Some serious hot hot ladies would be on call.
This won't stop me, hell if anything I'm waiting 3 days and if all you mongers follow through and don't go, then when I go, I'm going with 160 total and getting an hour massage, supply and demand is what mamassan at bo said. I pay at counter, never once ever mention any sex act and have fun. What happens in the room is between two people that were horny.
The investigations take from around 6 or 7 months to 8-9 and up.
News report says this was an 8 month investigation.
Sox.
WTF was Mr. Kraft doing in a massage parlor? Dude is a widower worth six fucking BILLION dollars!
SYM.Why do you do it? Sure the sex is great, but sometimes the hunt and chase that lead up to the event are a lot of fun! I read on the boards about guy partaking in this hobby for precisely that reason. Who is to say that Mr. Kraft is any different. Regardless, I am sorry for him to have to go through this trying time. I sure as hell would not want to go through it.
I don't know whether or not these women were sex trafficked or not. . . I sure hope not. The experience that I have had in just about every AMP I have been to would not support that, I mean the entusism that I have seen would not seem to me to be someone being forced to do this against their will. I just hope I am right.
Stay safe.
Gator.
Rooster8802
02-22-19, 21:26
I bet they have their ducks in a row here. They know the rules.
What about the "expectation of privacy" rule. True the spa is a public business but if you are in a private room you deserve your right to privacy. Any other approach would require a warrant from a judge. That is like putting a cam in a rest room. There are rules here. Could be a good court case regarding your right to privacy. Also when on camera most time it's is the table. You paying the therapist may not be. You are in trouble only if you admit to paying or they have you paying on camera. Always denie paying. Say she is a friend. My opinion.
Harry Plopper
02-22-19, 21:30
Its Nature. Variety and thrill of the chase for me. Spread that seed and domination. Darn caveman mentality.
Harry P.
Why do you do it? Sure the sex is great, but sometimes the hunt and chase that lead up to the event are a lot of fun! I read on the boards about guy partaking in this hobby for precisely that reason. Who is to say that Mr. Kraft is any different. Regardless, I am sorry for him to have to go through this trying time. I sure as hell would not want to go through it.
I don't know whether or not these women were sex trafficked or not. . . I sure hope not. The experience that I have had in just about every AMP I have been to would not support that, I mean the entusism that I have seen would not seem to me to be someone being forced to do this against their will. I just hope I am right.
Stay safe.
Gator.
Does she ever get topless during the massage? Is she worth seeing?
They must have video from inside the rooms. That seems to be the only way to allege a crime. Just walking in to the establishment is nothing. Heck, I once went in to one of these places just to get change. The girl just laughed and obliged my request.
SevenYearMitch
02-22-19, 22:41
Why do you do it? Sure the sex is great, but sometimes the hunt and chase that lead up to the event are a lot of fun! I read on the boards about guy partaking in this hobby for precisely that reason. Who is to say that Mr. Kraft is any different...You go to strip mall AMPs for the "hunt and chase"? Seriously? That's like shooting fish in a barrel. There's zero hunt and zero chase! That said, I think you missed the entire point of my post.
SYM.
If you've visited any Orlando Spas within the past couple of months and done anything illegal at said spa, get your ducks in a row!Any spa or just the two mentioned??
According to news reports the police got someone bigger than the Patriots owner, in the prostitution sting. They're getting ready to release the name soon. Stay tune.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tcpalm.com/amp/2953948002
$1. 2 B net worth John Childs, GOP donor.
https://dealbreaker.com/2019/02/john-havens-citi-prostitution-ring
$9M net worth.
When I heard they had bigger fish and knowing Jupiter was one of the cities, I was actually expecting a Tiger to come out of the Woods with the next report of a high profile person they have on video.
Grain 56.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.tcpalm.com/amp/2953948002
$1. 2 B net worth John Childs, GOP donor.
https://dealbreaker.com/2019/02/john-havens-citi-prostitution-ring
$9M net worth.
According to news reports the police got someone bigger than the Patriots owner, in the prostitution sting. They're getting ready to release the name soon. Stay tune.
https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2019/02/22/report-robert-kraft-is-not-the-biggest-name-involved-in-prostitution-case/
Brother I don't know how long you've been in the hobby but cameras inside the rooms from either management or uncle shouldn't surprise you yes they have intel and footage and they will use it.
They must have video from inside the rooms. That seems to be the only way to allege a crime. Just walking in to the establishment is nothing. Heck, I once went in to one of these places just to get change. The girl just laughed and obliged my request.
Deacon Blu
02-23-19, 07:23
Saw her once within the last year. No problems but did not repeat. Suggest you keep moving.
You go to strip mall AMPs for the "hunt and chase"? Seriously? That's like shooting fish in a barrel. There's zero hunt and zero chase! That said, I think you missed the entire point of my post.
SYM.SYM,
I got your point and I don't disagree. Heck, if I had that kind of money I would probably do exactly what you stated in your post.
My point and I think it is valid, there is always the thrill of the unknown. I get the "Fish in a barrel" comment, but when you go to a AMP, or see a provider for the first time there is always a little uncertainty / unknown and that is what I am talking about.
Anyway, not really worth arguing about. There was no slight intended in my post. In fact I got a good chuckle from yours. Thanks for the post.
Gator.
When I heard they had bigger fish and knowing Jupiter was one of the cities, I was actually expecting a Tiger to come out of the Woods with the next report of a high profile person they have on video.
Grain 56.Who could possibly be bigger in Jupiter.
Does she ever get topless during the massage? Is she worth seeing?Big negative on that one. In fact I tink at her age they may have been removed at some point as there isn't much there in that department. Her massage is ok with lots of tesing and she can sure shake the snake good. You won't get much further then that. You may be able to slip some fingers up her shorts and finger the monkey, but that's about the extent of it. I looked up online once and indications where she is 63 which doesn't bother me.
Big negative on that one. In fact I tink at her age they may have been removed at some point as there isn't much there in that department. Her massage is ok with lots of tesing and she can sure shake the snake good. You won't get much further then that. You may be able to slip some fingers up her shorts and finger the monkey, but that's about the extent of it. I looked up online once and topindications where she is 63 which doesn't bother me.I have seen Theresa several times. She does get naked for me and I believe she may have had breast cancer in the past and had them removed and rebuilt.
She will not offer anythong extra other than handshake and roaming.
She is a nice lady though.
Electronman
02-23-19, 13:27
The investigations take from around 6 or 7 months to 8-9 and up.Title says it all. I suspect they were hoping to snare lots of high profile mongers and they just let the girls, the victims of trafficking, languish for 8 months.
One more strike against the priorities and tactics of our law enforcement officials, in my opinion.
NjGotSun01
02-23-19, 13:35
Because like the border wall it was an EMERGENCY!
Area Gentleman
02-23-19, 14:20
No, not that kind (.)(.) The bad kind. I'd be interested in opinions from you guys out there with legal expertise. Will post this on several other boards around state.
Presumably, the mega-wealthy Kraft has the best legal team money can buy. Is it possible that local authorities are having an "Oh Shit!" experience as they conjure up the possibility of facing a high-powered legal onslaught? Maybe not. But, with thousand dollar per hour (or whatever they get) people figuring out ways to overcome this clusterfuck for their guy, is it conceivable that a determination would be made that the whole thing gets thrown out due to citizen privacy rights getting trampled, extreme bias or other factors (which I know nothing about)? And if that were the case, could it result in the opposite of intended effect by making it less likely that LE would execute similar operations? Maybe even make it unconstitutional to bug a massage therapy client room? It would be pretty amazing if LE landed a fish so big that it sinks their boat.
-AG.
Joeblow300
02-23-19, 15:14
So I, as I am sure quite a few on here, have been watching the fallout from the Indian River / Martin county busts closely. Here are my thoughts:
First. I appreciate how BO collects the money up front. I have the opportunity to always say I merely paid for a massage and never gave any more.
Second. It seems the Orlando area connection (for now) is that the mamasan moved to a spa up here. It looks like all the video surveillance happened down south. Unless they just haven't pulled the trigger on an Orlando investigation yet.
Third. I am staying out of the Asian massage parlors for now. I want no part of a huge, very public frocking. The AMP's appeal to me in the past was the safety. That's gone. I think the fact that they snagged a few very high profile John's is going to have other sherriffs salavating to do the same all over.
Member #6033
02-23-19, 15:27
So I, as I am sure quite a few on here, have been watching the fallout from the Indian River / Martin county busts closely. Here are my thoughts:
First. I appreciate how BO collects the money up front. I have the opportunity to always say I merely paid for a massage and never gave any more.
Second. It seems the Orlando area connection (for now) is that the mamasan moved to a spa up here. It looks like all the video surveillance happened down south. Unless they just haven't pulled the trigger on an Orlando investigation yet.
Third. I am staying out of the Asian massage parlors for now. I want no part of a huge, very public frocking. The AMP's appeal to me in the past was the safety. That's gone. I think the fact that they snagged a few very high profile John's is going to have other sheriffs salavating to do the same all over.I think our ship has sailed. It's only a matter of time until GG, BO, WB and the others are history. While human trafficking is an abomination, it's also disturbing that you can enter a business with an expectation of privacy in a massage room and be the subject of a court ordered video. Embarrassing at the very least. Is this really even constitutional? Wow. I'm retiring from the AMP scene.
Member #6038
02-23-19, 15:40
Got a great massage this morning. Afterward I asked her if business was impacted with all of the news. She said some customers are acting nervous. Told me one customer she had yesterday was clearly nervous. Afterwards as he was dressing he kept asking to take the condom out with him thinking she was somehow with LEO and not wanting to leave evidence behind. She said no but he kept reaching for it. She held on to it and offered to let him follow her to the back to see her dispose of it. Then he got very excited thinking she is trying to lure him in back to who knows what. He panics. Wearing only his underwear and socks he grabs his pants, shirt and shoes and runs down the hallway and out the front door into the parking lot to his car.
I'm both speechless at the stupidity and laughing my ass off at what that must have looked like. Hoping nobody on this Board is that out of their mind. If you're worried abstain. Behavior like that not only endangers yourself but your masseuse as well.
If you feel comfortable, get out and support the ladies you like. If business is slow they will absolutely appreciate your visit.
Happy, and safe, hunting.
FYI from the best I can determine, the AMPs involved in this latest sting are:
1. East Spa, Gene Street, Winter Park.
2. Rainbow Spa, 1809-2 East Colonial Drive, Orlando.
3. East Spa, Vero Beach.
4. AA Massage, Sebastian.
5. East Sea Spa, Sebastian (unincorporated Indian River County).
6. Orchids of Siam. Jupiter.
7. Bridge Day Spa, Hobe Sound.
8. Sequoia Apple Day Spa, Hobe Sound
9. Therapy Spa, Stuart
10. Cove Day Spa, Stuart
Another thing mentioned was that all Spas involved were opened in the last 3 years.
I hope this relieves some stress for some of you.I haven't done any research on this, but obviously you have. How / where did you find this list?
WonderMagic
02-23-19, 17:07
I haven't done any research on this, but obviously you have. How / where did you find this list?https://www.tcpalm.com/story/news/crime/indian-river-county/2019/02/21/human-trafficking-florida-massage-parlors-vero-beach-sebastian/2920354002/
Have any of the arrested talked on any of the forums? I thought there would be some first-hand knowledge by now. I guess their lawyers told them to be quiet.
DominicanPete
02-23-19, 17:23
Some of the schemes you all have would still have gotten you pinched with solicitation charges. I have read at least two dozen of the arrest reports at this time from both Martin and Indian River County of the mongers.
The majority of these guys went into the places and paid up front at the front desk when they made their appointment. There were video cameras looking at the desk and operational in the massage rooms. Money didn't need to exchange hands in the massage room in order to get the solicitation charge.
TennMonger
02-23-19, 17:26
LEO says it has video evidence. If Kraft fights this and takes it to trial, the video will become public (and immediately go viral).
I think the DAs are salivating over how much of a fine he will be willing to settle with.
No, not that kind (.)(.) The bad kind. I'd be interested in opinions from you guys out there with legal expertise. Will post this on several other boards around state.
Presumably, the mega-wealthy Kraft has the best legal team money can buy. Is it possible that local authorities are having an "Oh Shit!" experience as they conjure up the possibility of facing a high-powered legal onslaught? Maybe not. But, with thousand dollar per hour (or whatever they get) people figuring out ways to overcome this clusterfuck for their guy, is it conceivable that a determination would be made that the whole thing gets thrown out due to citizen privacy rights getting trampled, extreme bias or other factors (which I know nothing about)? And if that were the case, could it result in the opposite of intended effect by making it less likely that LE would execute similar operations? Maybe even make it unconstitutional to bug a massage therapy client room? It would be pretty amazing if LE landed a fish so big that it sinks their boat.
-AG.
TattooedDaddy
02-23-19, 17:50
So I, as I am sure quite a few on here, have been watching the fallout from the Indian River / Martin county busts closely. Here are my thoughts:
First. I appreciate how BO collects the money up front. I have the opportunity to always say I merely paid for a massage and never gave any more.
Second. It seems the Orlando area connection (for now) is that the mamasan moved to a spa up here. It looks like all the video surveillance happened down south. Unless they just haven't pulled the trigger on an Orlando investigation yet.
Third. I am staying out of the Asian massage parlors for now. I want no part of a huge, very public frocking. The AMP's appeal to me in the past was the safety. That's gone. I think the fact that they snagged a few very high profile John's is going to have other sherriffs salavating to do the same all over.Brother I agree with you 100%, I will be staying away for awhile. Now a couple of thoughts, how much more business the independents will receive. Will they keep there business model the same and not drive up $. And on the flip side will the AMP lower there $ because so much business will be gone. TD out Stay safe.
So I, as I am sure quite a few on here, have been watching the fallout from the Indian River / Martin county busts closely. Here are my thoughts:
First. I appreciate how BO collects the money up front. I have the opportunity to always say I merely paid for a massage and never gave any more.
Second. It seems the Orlando area connection (for now) is that the mamasan moved to a spa up here. It looks like all the video surveillance happened down south. Unless they just haven't pulled the trigger on an Orlando investigation yet.
Third. I am staying out of the Asian massage parlors for now. I want no part of a huge, very public frocking. The AMP's appeal to me in the past was the safety. That's gone. I think the fact that they snagged a few very high profile John's is going to have other sherriffs salavating to do the same all over.That's right, the AMP was perceived as a very safe venue, apparently even for billionaires. Now it isn't. That changes their appeal and, one would think, and their ability to survive as a viable business.
Brother I agree with you 100%, I will be staying away for awhile. Now a couple of thoughts, how much more business the independents will receive. Will they keep there business model the same and not drive up $. And on the flip side will the AMP lower there $ because so much business will be gone. TD out Stay safe.I asked one in the Space Coast, and she said she wasn't seeing any new customers at all now. If they see fewer clients. The price will either go up or they'll quit.
When I heard they had bigger fish and knowing Jupiter was one of the cities, I was actually expecting a Tiger to come out of the Woods with the next report of a high profile person they have on video.
Grain 56.
Who could possibly be bigger in Jupiter.Bert didn't die until September 2018. He COULD have had a death bed wish for an Asian Boom Boom Rub Down towards the end. The 8 month timing works out. Just saying.
Grain 56.
Joeblow300
02-23-19, 19:24
I think our ship has sailed. It's only a matter of time until GG, BO, WB and the others are history. While human trafficking is an abomination, it's also disturbing that you can enter a business with an expectation of privacy in a massage room and be the subject of a court ordered video. Embarrassing at the very least. Is this really even constitutional? Wow. I'm retiring from the AMP scene.One of my visits at BO was with Julie who speaks really good English. I chatted with her awhile and asked about trafficking since she spoke fluent English. She laughed and told me that the girls that work there aren't trafficked, they are more like diva's. She said they choose to work and they out the owners to work driving them around whenever they want to wherever they want. Now that was just one person's view but I did believe her.
As for the Constitutionality, a video warrant is Constitutional. It could be argued in court that the facts used to support the warrant weren't correct but yeah, they can definitely do that. It's just been that law enforcement hasn't cared that much to go to those lengths in the past.
Bert didn't die until September 2018. He COULD have had a death bed wish for an Asian Boom Boom Rub Down towards the end. The 8 month timing works out. Just saying.
Grain 56.Is in Mexico right now. Monday? Also, I read that Kraft was a member at Mar a Lago. Hmmm. Wonder who else might be high profile there?
I haven't done any research on this, but obviously you have. How / where did you find this list?Someone else referenced the USA Today article where these were listed. Read down a day or two. As for me I'm puzzled because a lot of these are not on most must go to lists. On this list I've only been to East Spa in Orland on that little back street off Fairbanks. Went there once, big yawn. The few reviews they got were.
'don't bother" and the others except for the one in Vero got not much traffic and not much in rave reviews. So how the fuck did they get targeted when the big 4 have had maybe 1000 reviews, all raves? Maybe they're just warming up. You have to know they read this shit so that's what I don't get. In the mean time I'm going to go for something ordinary, off the grid. Just score with the ole charm. Ha, if you knew why success with the ole charm you'd be lyao. Things could get messy. There are a few of my regulars that I've suggested they be cool and I won't be seeing them any time soon.
Harry Plopper
02-23-19, 20:18
Is it me or do we have an influx of trolls to our Orlando area MP board. I see many new User IDs that RARLEY ever post or never post in our board wanting to weigh in. Sorry guys, but I will only be reading at the regular posters that have been on the board over the last year. Welcome newbies and please take your paranoia elsewhere.
Stay Safe and horny.
Harry P.
Things are about to get interesting our greedy providers are willing to testify and backstab certain owners just to save their greedy little behinds, wechat is going nuts with a few pictures or certain providers young and old who have turned on their own, this will turn into an interesting free for all battle soon.
It's a process brother they can't just bust the doors open and arrest people left and right, think like a cop mate, if they do that chances are the girls will be taken back by their handlers because 1 they are the ones keeping the girls I'd info etc, and 2 they don't have a place to go (not a deal breaker), but also if they do this imagine the amount of criminals (think like a cop) who will get away and continue to fuck the trafficking victims. They need solid proof that the owners are involved and that they are aware of what's happening inside the shop to close it or they could just say they didn't know anything and then kick the girls bring a new set and it's fucky and sucky all over again and about the properties have you read the news about previous things found in owners houses? Or do you know anyone who has been involved in said type of arrest? I mean in some occasions naked girls have been found inside owners houses with customers inside waiting their turn as I stated before this shouldn't be something new to most of us trafficking victims don't stay in the same place for too long but 6 months is the earliest amount of time needed to gather as much intel as they can if they don't then detaining the would mean nothing and it would just be a waste of time.
Title says it all. I suspect they were hoping to snare lots of high profile mongers and they just let the girls, the victims of trafficking, languish for 8 months.
One more strike against the priorities and tactics of our law enforcement officials, in my opinion.
I haven't done any research on this, but obviously you have. How / where did you find this list?I travel frequently to Jupiter area so I was genuinely worried I may be in trouble. So I panicked and started to research.
I read every news article I could find online, saw one of them closed in person, read the USA martin / irc / st lucie forum, and emailed 2 of my monger buddies that frequent treasure coast AMPs.
I don't guarantee others aren't involved. These are just the ones that were mentioned. And it looks like they are closed. I have not researched further since my post. Please update if anyone knows more.
BTW Indian River County has a warrant search on its Web site and FDLE has one also- link in post near my post.
IMHO it appears that they were tracking a chinese trafficking group and these were the spa's where the girls worked. Just guessing.
So do do you know anyone / recommend a provider for a good massage in the area with some visuals? PM is okay.
Saw her once within the last year. No problems but did not repeat. Suggest you keep moving.
Drove by GG tonight at around 7:30 and then again a few hours later on my way back home and there wasn't a car in the lot. Looks like everyone's playing it safe and the girls are probably going a little stir crazy. As they say, " This too shall pass".
Be safe!
Chipper321
02-24-19, 00:15
And kingsponte pkwy, behind that racetrac.
I was more in search of a good full body rubdown more than anything else but hoping I'd be pleasantly surprised.
Unfortunately, there was no surprise (suspected). . Nothing more than just a decent massage from a fluent mid 30's ok looking lady.
She had me practically covered like a mummy as she avoided jr like the leper.
Nonetheless, still a good massage so I can't complain too much.
Nice dream one evening this week. In the dream, found myself at Spa Serenity. Paid mamasan. 8 for hr massage and led back to room. Cocoa / Koko / Coco (sometimes I wish they had nametags) came in and I was immediately pleased. Not a good judge of height when it comes to short girls, but Cocoa is tiny even by AMP standards, probably between 4'10" and 5'. Immediately thought to myself "I'm going to break her", but she proved more durable than appearances belied. Late 20's / early 30's, pretty face, nice fake boobs, flat belly and a superior posterior.
TS was good, but not the best I've had. Thorough cleaning, LFK, attention to the boys, no rimming, but some good BBBJ to tease. As soon as we were back in room, confirmed service levels and handed donation $ . 6 over. Tried to negotiate down to $ . 2 to no avail, but I don't make a big deal out of it given it was my first visit to SS. Massage was decent, Cocoa used her knees on my back which actually loosened up my stiff neck, and some B2 B as well while she nibbled my ear before the flip. Flipped and there was plenty of BBBJ, and she slid around for some DATY 69 while working on Junior for several minutes.
Cocoa slipped on the cover slyly with her mouth during the BJ, mounted me CG and was glove tight. She pounded away on me, stopping only to spin around on Junior 360 degrees like a Tilt-a-whirl for RCG then back to CG. We switched to mish and I continued railing away, adding some light choking while fucking her slow and deep. If she didn't have an O here, her acting skills are Academy worthy. Heard the door at least 2-3 times and a few fellow mongers in trying to beat the clock. Think Cocoa was trying to rush me once the door chimes started, because her already tight kitty clamped me like a vice. No question who was running this show. Less than a minute later, switched back to have her BBBJDT and BBBJCIM for the finish. She hopped up to spit, get dressed and grab a hot towel / water. I had about 10 minutes left on my hour, but she helped me get dressed and walked me out. Awoke from my dream quite refreshed.
SS is a hike but worth the drive. Worth repeating, but $ . 6 donation a bit steep (especially if busy and getting rushed), so going to have to stick to my guns next time.
DK2 K out.Is this the Serenity on and trail Or Dr. Phillips?
Electronman
02-24-19, 04:14
It's a process brother they can't just bust the doors open and arrest people left and right, think like a cop mate, if they do that chances are the girls will be taken back by their handlers because 1 they are the ones keeping the girls I'd info etc, and 2 they don't have a place to go (not a deal breaker), but also if they do this imagine the amount of criminals (think like a cop) who will get away and continue to fuck the trafficking victims. They need solid proof that the owners are involved and that they are aware of what's happening inside the shop to close it or they could just say they didn't know anything and then kick the girls bring a new set and it's fucky and sucky all over again and about the properties have you read the news about previous things found in owners houses? Or do you know anyone who has been involved in said type of arrest? I mean in some occasions naked girls have been found inside owners houses with customers inside waiting their turn as I stated before this shouldn't be something new to most of us trafficking victims don't stay in the same place for too long but 6 months is the earliest amount of time needed to gather as much intel as they can if they don't then detaining the would mean nothing and it would just be a waste of time.With all due respect to Kalafina, I'm not buying this explanation. The police claim to have high quality video depicting the exchange of money for sexual acts. Once you have one or two cases, why wait another 8 months before taking action to "rescue" the women from sex trafficking and to bust the traffickers? There is another more plausible explanation-- the police were collecting evidence to bust a larger group of customers, maybe even waiting for a high profile customer, so they could publish embarrassing photos of men who were accused but not yet found guilty of a crime (whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty? Whatever happened to the "protect and serve" motto for police?
If the police and the politicians were truly interested in putting a dent into human trafficking, they would push to make prostitution legal, safe and regulated. This would provide women who were willing to provide sexual services for pay with a safe place to ply their freely chosen profession (and yes, some women would freely choose this line of work, especially when compared with alternative sources of employment). Legalized prostitution would also provide men with a safe and legal alternative for seeking sexual services. Legalizing prostitution would undercut the economic motivation that drives human trafficking (in somewhat the same way that the 21st Amendment repealed Prohibition and undercut the economic motivation for illegally produced alcohol, much of which was dangerous for the consumer (check the history books on Al Capone and bootleggers). There is a reason that prostitution is the wold's oldest profession-- you aren't going to prevent men from being interested in sex, no matter how many "johns" you bust and how many mug shots you publish in the news media. Why not experiment with a different approach and make prostitution safe, legal and regulated? This would afford the female sex workers that same employee rights and protections as would be applied in any business sector and also provide a legal alternative where otherwise law abiding men would direct their spending for sexual services.
Of course, efforts to legalize prostitution would could provoke the ire of religious leaders who want to impose their morals about sex on others. But given the number of churches that are embroiled in sex scandals, I suggest that it is time to rethink the role of religion as it pertains to sex. Said another way, don't impose your values on others until you clean up your own house, and don't expect to clean up your own house until you recognize that sex is a basic human need, nearly on the same level as food and water.
The focus should be on preventing human trafficking (forcing another person into provide labor, be it sexual or otherwise), not on preventing sex between consenting adults, even if money (or other valuables) is exchanged in the sexual service.
Note: I know it is politically correct to use gender neutral pronouns but history documents that the vast majority of prostitutes are women and the vast majority of customers are men- thus the pronouns are reflective of historical practice.
Redsox2005
02-24-19, 05:45
Why would our LE allow this to go on for 8 months? If we see something we are told to report it, not let it continue for our own benefit. In this country from a young age we are told sex is bad. Why do we call our dick, balls, and pussy "private's? That's our culture in the USA. Sex And nudity are bad. Everything we need in today's society we pay for, and I mean everything, from, food to shelter and everything in between. There is a price for everything. So yea, make it legal and the government can take a cut from that too just like weed.
Sox.
With all due respect to Kalafina, I'm not buying this explanation. The police claim to have high quality video depicting the exchange of money for sexual acts. Once you have one or two cases, why wait another 8 months before taking action to "rescue" the women from sex trafficking and to bust the traffickers? There is another more plausible explanation-- the police were collecting evidence to bust a larger group of customers, maybe even waiting for a high profile customer, so they could publish embarrassing photos of men who were accused but not yet found guilty of a crime (whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty? Whatever happened to the "protect and serve" motto for police?
If the police and the politicians were truly interested in putting a dent into human trafficking, they would push to make prostitution legal, safe and regulated. This would provide women who were willing to provide sexual services for pay with a safe place to ply their freely chosen profession (and yes, some women would freely choose this line of work, especially when compared with alternative sources of employment). Legalized prostitution would also provide men with a safe and legal alternative for seeking sexual services. Legalizing prostitution would undercut the economic motivation that drives human trafficking (in somewhat the same way that the 21st Amendment repealed Prohibition and undercut the economic motivation for illegally produced alcohol, much of which was dangerous for the consumer (check the history books on Al Capone and bootleggers). There is a reason that prostitution is the wold's oldest profession-- you aren't going to prevent men from being interested in sex, no matter how many "johns" you bust and how many mug shots you publish in the news media. Why not experiment with a different approach and make prostitution safe, legal and regulated? This would afford the female sex workers that same employee rights and protections as would be applied in any business sector and also provide a legal alternative where otherwise law abiding men would direct their spending for sexual services.
Of course, efforts to legalize prostitution would could provoke the ire of religious leaders who want to impose their morals about sex on others. But given the number of churches that are embroiled in sex scandals, I suggest that it is time to rethink the role of religion as it pertains to sex. Said another way, don't impose your values on others until you clean up your own house, and don't expect to clean up your own house until you recognize that sex is a basic human need, nearly on the same level as food and water.
The focus should be on preventing human trafficking (forcing another person into provide labor, be it sexual or otherwise), not on preventing sex between consenting adults, even if money (or other valuables) is exchanged in the sexual service.
Note: I know it is politically correct to use gender neutral pronouns but history documents that the vast majority of prostitutes are women and the vast majority of customers are men- thus the pronouns are reflective of historical practice.
Bert didn't die until September 2018. He COULD have had a death bed wish for an Asian Boom Boom Rub Down towards the end. The 8 month timing works out. Just saying.
Grain 56.I just saw Gator yesterday. If Gator could take down the syndicate then, who better to take down this law enforcement syndicate now?
SevenYearMitch
02-24-19, 10:07
SYM,
I got your point and I don't disagree. Heck, if I had that kind of money I would probably do exactly what you stated in your post.
My point and I think it is valid, there is always the thrill of the unknown. I get the "Fish in a barrel" comment, but when you go to a AMP, or see a provider for the first time there is always a little uncertainty / unknown and that is what I am talking about.
Anyway, not really worth arguing about. There was no slight intended in my post. In fact I got a good chuckle from yours. Thanks for the post.
Gator.Thanks Gator, I've actually never been to an AMP so I'll defer to your expertise on the subject. I do agree with your "thrill of the unknown" as one possible explanation for Mr. Kraft's penchant for visiting an AMP. I think it was Forrest Gump who once said: "AMPs are like a box of chocolates, you never know what you're gonna get. " LOL. Unfortunately these days you might get video surveillance.
SYM.
It's a process brother they can't just bust the doors open and arrest people left and right, think like a cop mate, if they do that chances are the girls will be taken back by their handlers because 1 they are the ones keeping the girls I'd info etc, and 2 they don't have a place to go (not a deal breaker), but also if they do this imagine the amount of criminals (think like a cop) who will get away and continue to fuck the trafficking victims. They need solid proof that the owners are involved and that they are aware of what's happening inside the shop to close it or they could just say they didn't know anything and then kick the girls bring a new set and it's fucky and sucky all over again and about the properties have you read the news about previous things found in owners houses? Or do you know anyone who has been involved in said type of arrest? I mean in some occasions naked girls have been found inside owners houses with customers inside waiting their turn as I stated before this shouldn't be something new to most of us trafficking victims don't stay in the same place for too long but 6 months is the earliest amount of time needed to gather as much intel as they can if they don't then detaining the would mean nothing and it would just be a waste of time.Not likely they were actual trafficking victims--possible, but not very likely. It's pretty rare in actual massage parlors. All this stuff about the girls not having their own transportation and sleeping in the spas--true. But it's because the girls don't want to buy cars and they don't want to spend money on apartments, plus it being difficult for them to actually rent an apartment without a job and income that they want to put down on a rental application. Most actual of the actual sex trafficking is in hotels and private residences.
There are cases like this one that you can find if you look for them I've seen quite a couple but I don't remember the dates or names to post every single one, even journalists do this you know.
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/palm-beach/81315165-157.html
https://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/coconut-creek/fl-coconut-creek-yacobellis-fired-20150227-story.html
With all due respect to Kalafina, I'm not buying this explanation. The police claim to have high quality video depicting the exchange of money for sexual acts. Once you have one or two cases, why wait another 8 months before taking action to "rescue" the women from sex trafficking and to bust the traffickers? There is another more plausible explanation-- the police were collecting evidence to bust a larger group of customers, maybe even waiting for a high profile customer, so they could publish embarrassing photos of men who were accused but not yet found guilty of a crime (whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty? Whatever happened to the "protect and serve" motto for police?
If the police and the politicians were truly interested in putting a dent into human trafficking, they would push to make prostitution legal, safe and regulated. This would provide women who were willing to provide sexual services for pay with a safe place to ply their freely chosen profession (and yes, some women would freely choose this line of work, especially when compared with alternative sources of employment). Legalized prostitution would also provide men with a safe and legal alternative for seeking sexual services. Legalizing prostitution would undercut the economic motivation that drives human trafficking (in somewhat the same way that the 21st Amendment repealed Prohibition and undercut the economic motivation for illegally produced alcohol, much of which was dangerous for the consumer (check the history books on Al Capone and bootleggers). There is a reason that prostitution is the wold's oldest profession-- you aren't going to prevent men from being interested in sex, no matter how many "johns" you bust and how many mug shots you publish in the news media. Why not experiment with a different approach and make prostitution safe, legal and regulated? This would afford the female sex workers that same employee rights and protections as would be applied in any business sector and also provide a legal alternative where otherwise law abiding men would direct their spending for sexual services.
Of course, efforts to legalize prostitution would could provoke the ire of religious leaders who want to impose their morals about sex on others. But given the number of churches that are embroiled in sex scandals, I suggest that it is time to rethink the role of religion as it pertains to sex. Said another way, don't impose your values on others until you clean up your own house, and don't expect to clean up your own house until you recognize that sex is a basic human need, nearly on the same level as food and water.
The focus should be on preventing human trafficking (forcing another person into provide labor, be it sexual or otherwise), not on preventing sex between consenting adults, even if money (or other valuables) is exchanged in the sexual service.
Note: I know it is politically correct to use gender neutral pronouns but history documents that the vast majority of prostitutes are women and the vast majority of customers are men- thus the pronouns are reflective of historical practice.
You're on point on the apartment part even though they could easily lie about the income but the car part is a negative, the ones who work in the same state for years have their own car and house if you know of one who doesn't that means they came from a different state, they don't like to spend money but they do spend it in houses and cars designer clothes etc if they reside in one state, then later on if they want to get into another type of business after making enough they choose CA or NY for the most part downtown areas are the best you can find ex providers running different types of businesses.
Not likely they were actual trafficking victims--possible, but not very likely. It's pretty rare in actual massage parlors. All this stuff about the girls not having their own transportation and sleeping in the spas--true. But it's because the girls don't want to buy cars and they don't want to spend money on apartments, plus it being difficult for them to actually rent an apartment without a job and income that they want to put down on a rental application. Most actual of the actual sex trafficking is in hotels and private residences.
I was thinking, I You are on a MP and at the time of the negotiation you tell the provider that you will give her a Monetary gift or Donation. Is that will get you off the hook with uncle LEO?
Let me know your feedback.
MCOlocal.
With all due respect to Kalafina, I'm not buying this explanation. The police claim to have high quality video depicting the exchange of money for sexual acts. Once you have one or two cases, why wait another 8 months before taking action to "rescue" the women from sex trafficking and to bust the traffickers? There is another more plausible explanation-- the police were collecting evidence to bust a larger group of customers, maybe even waiting for a high profile customer, so they could publish embarrassing photos of men who were accused but not yet found guilty of a crime (whatever happened to "innocent until proven guilty? Whatever happened to the "protect and serve" motto for police?
If the police and the politicians were truly interested in putting a dent into human trafficking, they would push to make prostitution legal, safe and regulated. This would provide women who were willing to provide sexual services for pay with a safe place to ply their freely chosen profession (and yes, some women would freely choose this line of work, especially when compared with alternative sources of employment). Legalized prostitution would also provide men with a safe and legal alternative for seeking sexual services. Legalizing prostitution would undercut the economic motivation that drives human trafficking (in somewhat the same way that the 21st Amendment repealed Prohibition and undercut the economic motivation for illegally produced alcohol, much of which was dangerous for the consumer (check the history books on Al Capone and bootleggers). There is a reason that prostitution is the wold's oldest profession-- you aren't going to prevent men from being interested in sex, no matter how many "johns" you bust and how many mug shots you publish in the news media. Why not experiment with a different approach and make prostitution safe, legal and regulated? This would afford the female sex workers that same employee rights and protections as would be applied in any business sector and also provide a legal alternative where otherwise law abiding men would direct their spending for sexual services.
Of course, efforts to legalize prostitution would could provoke the ire of religious leaders who want to impose their morals about sex on others. But given the number of churches that are embroiled in sex scandals, I suggest that it is time to rethink the role of religion as it pertains to sex. Said another way, don't impose your values on others until you clean up your own house, and don't expect to clean up your own house until you recognize that sex is a basic human need, nearly on the same level as food and water.
The focus should be on preventing human trafficking (forcing another person into provide labor, be it sexual or otherwise), not on preventing sex between consenting adults, even if money (or other valuables) is exchanged in the sexual service.
Note: I know it is politically correct to use gender neutral pronouns but history documents that the vast majority of prostitutes are women and the vast majority of customers are men- thus the pronouns are reflective of historical practice.It won't be legalized because it would decrease the back ways these big time politicians, religous leaders and rich business guys get theirs. By legalizing it, it could be taxed and refulated, making it safer, but also making it less discrete and those aholes mentioned above all have secret pussy on the side. I don't get why kraft just doesn't say I paid at the door for a massage and that is it, when I got in there we both, being adults, found eachother very attractive and had consensual sex. No money changed hands for that. Oh and I did get the massage, for what I paid for. Thats what I'd say. The police want to shame guys. Where if we make it legal educate people especially in US, sex is needed, nothing wrong with it. I admit to my family that since my wife died 12 yrs ago, I've been to AMPs and have seen escorts. Only a couple of them had issues, and those were becuase they've watched too much tv. LOL. Hell when my son turned 21 I took him to an AMP in Boston. I'm going to still go to gg or bo soon amd hopefully their prices go down.
Wolverines
02-24-19, 18:52
This was shared in our forum. Lots of surveillance details.
Spotted this on a Detroit thread:
https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/74/98/64c708b942ac9a24ed0e40f57db0/hua-pc.pdf
Stay safe out there, MH2.
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/johnny-delprete-boyfriend-lpga-star-jessica-korda-arrested-florida-prostitution-sting-robert-kraft-224726267.html
I'm not a lawyer but:
1. I never negotiate. If a masseuse starts down that road I just don't talk. I usually get what I want. Remember, the masseuse usually turns the lights waaay down toward the end of massage, so cameras may not do well. And i believe ifrared cameras are conspicuous. Microphones, however, will work.
2. I do look around the room for cameras while she leaves me to undress. I got caught once by the masseuse returning while had a picture frame in my hand trying to rehab it. She laughed and said "very good! We don't want any bugs!" I've always felt a little paranoid doing it but not anymore.
3. Do not EVER admit to anything, even an HE. You came to get a massage and did. I have a bad back. I'm not interested in anything else. I see Asian masseuses bc they are the best trained.
If you watch the television shows filmed in hotels on Polk county attempting to bust prostitutes and backpage users, the never prosecuted Johns who did not admit to anything.
SevenYearMitch
02-25-19, 00:15
3. Do not EVER admit to anything, even an HE. You came to get a massage and did. I have a bad back. I'm not interested in anything else. I see Asian masseuses bc they are the best trained.
If you watch the television shows filmed in hotels on Polk county attempting to bust prostitutes and backpage users, the never prosecuted Johns who did not admit to anything.Good advice Frank! Not only would I not admit to anything, I wouldn't say ANYTHING to the police, not one fucking word. Talking to the police will never help you. Everyone in this hobby should watch this vid by a law professor if you haven't already:
https://youtu.be/d-7o9xYp7eE
SYM.
DarkKnight2K
02-25-19, 08:58
Is this the Serenity on and trail Or Dr. Phillips?On the trail, same shopping plaza as a pizza joint.
Indian River
02-25-19, 10:35
Many good reasons why LEO took so long to close the AMP. They mention trafficking as the reason. But as one monger said if that is case why wait 8 months. They should go in there quickly to save the girls but they did not. The reason is very clear. LEO knows there is no trafficking. They just say this to get media coverage. The real reason for 8 months to get as many Johns as they can. Sure they arrest the AMTs but they want the Johns more. 100 or 200 arrests makes their arrest stats high and keeps their court system busy. As they say, follow the money. It may sound untrue but think about it. They can get allot of Johns in 8 months. The AMTs can come later. They are not going anywhere. Just my opinion.
DominicanPete
02-25-19, 11:05
I'm not a lawyer but:
1. I never negotiate. If a masseuse starts down that road I just don't talk. I usually get what I want. Remember, the masseuse usually turns the lights waaay down toward the end of massage, so cameras may not do well. And i believe ifrared cameras are conspicuous. Microphones, however, will work.
2. I do look around the room for cameras while she leaves me to undress. I got caught once by the masseuse returning while had a picture frame in my hand trying to rehab it. She laughed and said "very good! We don't want any bugs!" I've always felt a little paranoid doing it but not anymore.
3. Do not EVER admit to anything, even an HE. You came to get a massage and did. I have a bad back. I'm not interested in anything else. I see Asian masseuses bc they are the best trained.
If you watch the television shows filmed in hotels on Polk county attempting to bust prostitutes and backpage users, the never prosecuted Johns who did not admit to anything.In regards to point 1 there were quite a few guys who had that experience and they are now facing charges. The exact scenario you described happened in quite a few of the Martin County cases and microphones were not used there. You can read the full details of the arrest reports online.
In regards to point 3 none of these guys were questioned. They visited the spa and a few weeks / months later LEO is at their door with warrants because there is hard video evidence and surveillance from inside and outside the spa.
Also I'm sure for most of us we really shouldn't be worried if some lawyer can get us off. The bigger impact is just being named in something like this and the impact they have financially, professionally, and on the family. The legal process is just background noise.
From what I can see, the treasure coast operations lasted a long time but the actual surveillance was only a small part of it. The Jupiter police report someone posted earlier shows they started their investigation in October so it was a five month investigation. But the actual surveillance of the "johns" was only 5 days long. Also there is no audio just video and many of the Johns who are now being prosecuted paid for a massage, there appears no negotiation and they get a HE only. This is pretty scary, they are going after these guys for soliciting prostitution with no apparent solicitation! It's just assumed based on the results, not sure how this will go down in court it I'm guessing most will agree to diversion program since it makes sense financially and criminally. But you're now labeled a perp and you're dragged through the mud. This is very scary stuff!
MadisonGuy69
02-25-19, 14:06
I'm not a lawyer but:
1. I never negotiate. If a masseuse starts down that road I just don't talk. I usually get what I want. Remember, the masseuse usually turns the lights waaay down toward the end of massage, so cameras may not do well. And i believe ifrared cameras are conspicuous. Microphones, however, will work.
2. I do look around the room for cameras while she leaves me to undress. I got caught once by the masseuse returning while had a picture frame in my hand trying to rehab it. She laughed and said "very good! We don't want any bugs!" I've always felt a little paranoid doing it but not anymore.
3. Do not EVER admit to anything, even an HE. You came to get a massage and did. I have a bad back. I'm not interested in anything else. I see Asian masseuses bc they are the best trained.
If you watch the television shows filmed in hotels on Polk county attempting to bust prostitutes and backpage users, the never prosecuted Johns who did not admit to anything.I agree, saying or negotiating anything is asking for trouble. But it doesn't matter how dark that room gets a camera will get everything. Cheap home systems now have good night vision for up to 100 yards.
I always prefer using CC, I feel like you just have an extra well Visa obviously doesn't think anything criminal is going on here. That's one of the things that worried me about BO. The best places always seem to be the least discrete which kind of sucks. I think I stopped at the place in Vero a couple years back, didn't see anything I liked though and left.
For what (little) it's worth. I'm dropping AMPs for now. Let's face it, for most of us, this is always a calculated risk. The risk, just went up. It's like a blackjack table that only pays even money on blackjack, just makes your odds a little worse. But with enough hands, over time, even if it's only 5% worse it adds up. If our risk of exposure at an AMP goes from 1% to 2% or 3%, you're rolling the dice on every visit, sooner or later you lose no matter how unlikely. I agree with the other commenter, the legal issue is minor. It's a misdemeanor. But the risk if you have an SO to explain this to is far more consequential.
Hopefully, over time, this trend will lay down and I can return. Have always enjoyed GG and BO.
Harry Plopper
02-25-19, 14:39
This actually makes me feel better. These guys basically gave the police exactly what they wanted. They confessed to the activities. Guys if you talk to an officer and admit to doing something you just made their case for them. If pulled over just give them DL and reg / insurance info only and stay silent. 99 times out of 100 they will let you go or give you a ticket for the probable cause item that gave them the ability to pull you over. Classic intimidation. They pry on the stupid and weak minded.
I stopped by my favorite massage parlor and had a great time recently so it has not stopped anything.
Stay safe and horny!
Harry P
https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/...db0/hua-pc.pdf
DominicanPete
02-25-19, 15:46
This actually makes me feel better. These guys basically gave the police exactly what they wanted. They confessed to the activities. Guys if you talk to an officer and admit to doing something you just made their case for them. If pulled over just give them DL and reg / insurance info only and stay silent. 99 times out of 100 they will let you go or give you a ticket for the probable cause item that gave them the ability to pull you over. Classic intimidation. They pry on the stupid and weak minded.
I stopped by my favorite massage parlor and had a great time recently so it has not stopped anything.
Stay safe and horny!
Harry P
https://ewscripps.brightspotcdn.com/...db0/hua-pc.pdfThe two guys who were pulled over and confessed in martin were not charged. They just helped establish enough cause for the warrant.
GemiHilarious
02-25-19, 16:04
https://www.yahoo.com/sports/johnny-delprete-boyfriend-lpga-star-jessica-korda-arrested-florida-prostitution-sting-robert-kraft-224726267.htmlYou mean ex-boyfriend.
Imagine if they had that camera in place for a month, or for 8 months. How many famous people roll through there? I can't believe a billionaire is going an AMP in a strip mall with his Superbowl ring on. You could afford the hottest escort in Miami and you roll through an AMP.
As for reiterating talking to the cops. They are interested in one thing, the easiest guys to throw to the courts. They practice for hours and study interrogation methods. You are out of your element and uncomfortable and scared, they are in their element and comfortable. DO NOT SAY ANYTHING. They try different ways to get you to talk, friendly conversation, intimidation, coercion, fear. The only thing you should say is, "I want a lawyer". That's it. Nothing else. The law is set up because you are presumed innocent. Do not throw it away by being dumb or cocky or thinking you are smarter than them. They want you to engage, do not engage. Be quiet and you win, you make it much much harder for them.
This whole treasure coast deal has exposed the dangers of AMP visiting. With surveillance you're screwed. I question the tactics to allow surveillance, whether the trafficking was real or. Not, it doesn't matter to the patrons, now you're wanted for arrest and they put your name and face out there.
I'm not going to any AMP soon or maybe ever, it's not worth it. If I were going I'd sure as heck watch for any signs of so called trafficking. Also, I'd sure as heck stay away from any highly reviewed full service places. I'm still amazed at how the big 3 operate the way they do. Certainly don't do any negotiating but that really doesn't seem to matter. If you get caught on video getting a HE you're going to be arrested. It doesn't matter if you just happened to be getting a massage, they'll come after you anyway. I used to assume just don't ask for anything and you'll be fine but reading the arrest report clearly that doesn't hold true.
This whole treasure coast deal has exposed the dangers of AMP visiting. With surveillance you're screwed. I question the tactics to allow surveillance, whether the trafficking was real or. Not, it doesn't matter to the patrons, now you're wanted for arrest and they put your name and face out there.
I'm not going to any AMP soon or maybe ever, it's not worth it. If I were going I'd sure as heck watch for any signs of so called trafficking. Also, I'd sure as heck stay away from any highly reviewed full service places. I'm still amazed at how the big 3 operate the way they do. Certainly don't do any negotiating but that really doesn't seem to matter. If you get caught on video getting a HE you're going to be arrested. It doesn't matter if you just happened to be getting a massage, they'll come after you anyway. I used to assume just don't ask for anything and you'll be fine but reading the arrest report clearly that doesn't hold true.Not negotiating only protects you from getting busted by an undercover agent. Performing sexual acts is going to bust you regardless if you were caught exchanging money or not. You paid money to be there, just because the happy ending was advertised doesn't excuse the fact the most people know why they are there.
RemingtonSteel
02-25-19, 17:10
For what (little) it's worth. I'm dropping AMPs for now. Let's face it, for most of us, this is always a calculated risk. The risk, just went up. It's like a blackjack table that only pays even money on blackjack, just makes your odds a little worse. But with enough hands, over time, even if it's only 5% worse it adds up. If our risk of exposure at an AMP goes from 1% to 2% or 3%, you're rolling the dice on every visit, sooner or later you lose no matter how unlikely. I agree with the other commenter, the legal issue is minor. It's a misdemeanor. But the risk if you have an SO to explain this to is far more consequential.
Hopefully, over time, this trend will lay down and I can return. Have always enjoyed GG and BO.It does not help matters that the names of those arrested are being made public. So much for innocent until proven guilty. Plus these men are being accused of misdemeanor. The release of names will break up marriages, hurt careers, and may result in loss of jobs. Plus I read that one of the goals of this sting operation is to broaden the discussion on this issue. This won't be dying down anytime soon.
It does not help matters that the names of those arrested are being made public. So much for innocent until proven guilty. Plus these men are being accused of misdemeanor. The release of names will break up marriages, hurt careers, and may result in loss of jobs. Plus I read that one of the goals of this sting operation is to broaden the discussion on this issue. This won't be dying down anytime soon.Have they been made public yet? And did they hit any other parlors than the 10 that were listed?
If they targeted Jupiter for that long, I bet CFL / Orlando is or has been under watch too. There's too many around here not too. And they already have a couple in Orlando with this one.
It sucks for the ones that like AMP's but either way, it's coming. We all know it. Before you know it, all we're going to have are indies. Better lock in your contacts now!
It does not help matters that the names of those arrested are being made public. So much for innocent until proven guilty. Plus these men are being accused of misdemeanor. The release of names will break up marriages, hurt careers, and may result in loss of jobs. Plus I read that one of the goals of this sting operation is to broaden the discussion on this issue. This won't be dying down anytime soon.
If they targeted Jupiter for that long, I bet CFL / Orlando is or has been under watch too. There's too many around here not too. And they already have a couple in Orlando with this one.
It sucks for the ones that like AMP's but either way, it's coming. We all know it. Before you know it, all we're going to have are indies. Better lock in your contacts now!Read where LEO used a phony bomb scare as an excuse to go in and plant the cameras. Nice.
Just drove by GG and the place is closed with a note on the door. Didn't dare stop to see what it said but it's an empty lot and all the lights are out.
It does not help matters that the names of those arrested are being made public. So much for innocent until proven guilty. Plus these men are being accused of misdemeanor. The release of names will break up marriages, hurt careers, and may result in loss of jobs. Plus I read that one of the goals of this sting operation is to broaden the discussion on this issue. This won't be dying down anytime soon.No proof of trafficking, the fucking police and media say that to justify herassing consenting adults and O. T. If there is such a problem with trafficking, why not shut it down right away. 5 months investigation hmmm. If they really cared, make it legal where it can be regulated, kept safe, taxed and it would take away the demand for trafficking. Hypocrites most politicians, police Chiefs, Rich businessman pay a little piece on the side. Make it legal and a whole bunch of women would sign up to use what they've been blessed with for a extra cash, thus taking away demand for alleged trafficking. And the world would be a happier place. Women would have more money and men would be getting laid on a regular bases, mens work performance would improve, more women could stay home and make more money in less time, economy would improve, world much happier. Damn I just solved world peace. This to is only a dream.
UtahLegend
02-25-19, 19:38
Google his Girlfriend and tell my why he would go to a stank massage parlor with below average women. Why not just ask her to bring a friend?
This whole treasure coast deal has exposed the dangers of AMP visiting. With surveillance you're screwed. I question the tactics to allow surveillance, whether the trafficking was real or. Not, it doesn't matter to the patrons, now you're wanted for arrest and they put your name and face out there.
I'm not going to any AMP soon or maybe ever, it's not worth it. If I were going I'd sure as heck watch for any signs of so called trafficking. Also, I'd sure as heck stay away from any highly reviewed full service places. I'm still amazed at how the big 3 operate the way they do. Certainly don't do any negotiating but that really doesn't seem to matter. If you get caught on video getting a HE you're going to be arrested. It doesn't matter if you just happened to be getting a massage, they'll come after you anyway. I used to assume just don't ask for anything and you'll be fine but reading the arrest report clearly that doesn't hold true.
I've been to GG around closing time and see the girls clean up at the end of the night. I'd assume it's like that at the others as well. Now I wonder how much they keep up with what is going on with LE but if they do cleaning every night at closing shouldn't they look for any cameras or other surveillance things?
Just drove by GG and the place is closed with a note on the door. Didn't dare stop to see what it said but it's an empty lot and all the lights are out.Well that fucking sucks. What about BO haven't heard any updates on them yet.
RollyPolly2
02-26-19, 00:36
Just drove by GG and the place is closed with a note on the door. Didn't dare stop to see what it said but it's an empty lot and all the lights are out.That sucks. Is it busted like others?
I will be in FL in a few weeks and was ready to hit one of the AMPs. Still hope to do so but will see how the next few weeks pan out.
There are some Apps for the smartphone (search hidden camera detection) that supposed to alert you if a camera is hidden in a room. I have not tried any, but saw it on the news a while back. They were doing a story about people finding hidden cameras in hotel rooms. The downside is that you have go around the room holding your phone within 3 feet of where a camera could be before it alerts you. I can't see doing that before my session.
Horsetrader
02-26-19, 02:05
I've been to GG around closing time and see the girls clean up at the end of the night. I'd assume it's like that at the others as well. Now I wonder how much they keep up with what is going on with LE but if they do cleaning every night at closing shouldn't they look for any cameras or other surveillance things?I'd be surprised if that trick ever works again. Every bomb scare that clears an AMP will be immediately followed by thorough search of the property. News on the Asian underground network travels fast. I expect that AMPs nationwide have already been checked.
Look for more information don't just read the forums it was stated that Orange County is also part of this operation been in it for months now total of 4 counties.
If they targeted Jupiter for that long, I bet CFL / Orlando is or has been under watch too. There's too many around here not too. And they already have a couple in Orlando with this one.
It sucks for the ones that like AMP's but either way, it's coming. We all know it. Before you know it, all we're going to have are indies. Better lock in your contacts now!
I went to GG last evening. They were closed so I went to BO instead. BO was opened as usual. I paid the 45 minutes fee and drew Cherry again. It was my 2nd time with this very cute girl. I chose her again because of her perky breasts (34 C+ breasts) and her great services. She kissed me first and got naked in my dream.
Cherry performed the Nuru Massage and body slid as soon as we entered the shower room. Followed by a quick shower, DT and BBBJ (3 minutes). I followed her back to the massage room and enjoyed her soft massage. We changed to the 69 position. I kissed her pussy lips and fingered her for a few minutes. She kept sucking me until I was very hard. I put on the cover and entered her in doggie position. I was squeezing her 34 C the whole time. After 5 minutes, I was tired so we changed to Cowgril position. She rode me hard and I exploded in 7 minutes. That was a lot of fun.
Look for more information don't just read the forums it was stated that Orange County is also part of this operation been in it for months now total of 4 counties.What information have you seen other than the two parlors shut down in Orange county? They were simply shut down because owners owned them as well. No stories of any video, surveillance, or arrests related. So far I see nothing to indicate similar busts are pending outside of the current focus.
Look for more information don't just read the forums it was stated that Orange County is also part of this operation been in it for months now total of 4 counties.It's not clear how much Orange County is involved. We do know that the owners had a spa in winter Park called east spa off gene street. It's a sleepy little spa that didn't get much business from what I could tell. There are a few reviews here not much really. It's not been made clear if there was surveillance on that spa or if it was just shut down. They would be dealing with a different the and judge so not sure if they'd get to place cameras.
At least one of the owners was living in OC we also know that. So OC was involved in arresting them and presumably tracking their money and movements.
I guess we're all holding our breath to see if they are going after clients like they did down south.
SplitLickity1
02-26-19, 10:49
That sucks. Is it busted like others?They decided to close on their own. May open back up, who knows. Sad.
Here we sit, waiting to see if LEO comes to our door. Do we need an attorney now or just wait. Lot of good advice out there, keep quiet, ask for attorney. So I hear Richard Hornsby is the best, so some may retain him. This is not an ad, but have retained him before for other reasons and he is excellent. Be safe out there brothers and this thing will blow over eventually.
LiveLife6996
02-26-19, 12:57
I have seen her many times in altamonte close to storage most I have gotten was a CBJ. I rather go there then AMPs. Does take her top off as well.
Doubt you will get FS but she is an expert at HE.
NaughtyBoy1
02-26-19, 13:04
Guys any idea, what happened to Sunflower on OBT across Sam's. I used to get lucky once a while, but now I guess they moved.
Anyone visited them recently?
NB1.
TapDisBong
02-26-19, 13:25
Seems like the police and prosecutor are using the same play book they use in Seattle. Reel the public in with the headlines of Sex slavery and human trafficking getting the public on your side. But then you peel the layers off to find out it was just a bunch of working girls that want to make a buck. Wouldn't surprise me if Sawanee Hunt and her organization isn't behind funding this sting. Sucks for the dudes when they just want to get some relief.
Maybe a tell to possible local LEO activity would be AMP Staff leaving the area? The upscale of LEO tactics (covert internal video) has been noted by all. BO Snow disappearing would raise my SpidySense. Ditto those at GG. If this is really about Human Trafficking and the local players are gone, would the investigation process stop? Time will tell. No doubt some AMPs will fold due to lack of customers.
Your Thoughts?
Been at this hobby for a while now. The writing is on the wall and if you get in trouble, its on you at this point moving forward. Stick to the indies and the few & far between american shops around town.
The AMP game has been compromised and I fear that the Kraft case is the tip of the iceberg. If you are an OG to this game, you know that what is being reported is accurate. Its shocking that it took RK getting caught to really put a spotlight to this issue. I knew a decade ago that AMP's getting away with what they do was only a matter of time. I'm taken aback the mainstream media took this long to jump on reporting the shady side of the business. Authorities are about to crack down hard on AMP up and down the east coast. GG closing for a while is smart of them and likely more will follow.
Ding A Ling
02-26-19, 13:29
Maybe a tell to possible local LEO activity would be AMP Staff leaving the area? The upscale of LEO tactics (covert internal video) has been noted by all. BO Snow disappearing would raise my SpidySense. Ditto those at GG. If this is really about Human Trafficking and the local players are gone, would the investigation process stop? Time will tell. No doubt some AMPs will fold due to lack of customers.
Your Thoughts?They are all on flights back to China / Korea / Thailand / Vietname / as we speak.
SplitLickity1
02-26-19, 13:31
Guys any idea, what happened to Sunflower on OBT across Sam's. I used to get lucky once a while, but now I guess they moved.
Anyone visited them recently?
NB1.They moved to a different suite in the same complex.
UtahLegend
02-26-19, 13:38
A friend of mine was a busted for the same thing years back and that is why I never go to AMP. With the connections between here and treasure coast, the ball will eventually drop in orange county and who knows what will happen. These people at the Asian places will turn on you for a lighter sentences and The trafficked women will be offered citizenshipcitizenship for testifying against you what do you think they will choose. Free citizenship or staying true to the game.
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Been at this hobby for a while now. The writing is on the wall and if you get in trouble, its on you at this point moving forward. Stick to the indies and the few & far between american shops around town.
The AMP game has been compromised and I fear that the Kraft case is the tip of the iceberg. If you are an OG to this game, you know that what is being reported is accurate. Its shocking that it took RK getting caught to really put a spotlight to this issue. I knew a decade ago that AMP's getting away with what they do was only a matter of time. I'm taken aback the mainstream media took this long to jump on reporting the shady side of the business. Authorities are about to crack down hard on AMP up and down the east coast. GG closing for a while is smart of them and likely more will follow..
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Been at this hobby for a while now. The writing is on the wall and if you get in trouble, its on you at this point moving forward. Stick to the indies and the few & far between american shops around town.
The AMP game has been compromised and I fear that the Kraft case is the tip of the iceberg. If you are an OG to this game, you know that what is being reported is accurate. Its shocking that it took RK getting caught to really put a spotlight to this issue. I knew a decade ago that AMP's getting away with what they do was only a matter of time. I'm taken aback the mainstream media took this long to jump on reporting the shady side of the business. Authorities are about to crack down hard on AMP up and down the east coast. GG closing for a while is smart of them and likely more will follow.What mainstream media should be reporting on is why a Judge or Judges signed off on law enforcement to A) call in a false bomb threat to a private business concern so they could; B) conduct video voyeurism. There should be a number of judges, police chiefs, and lower levels of LEO who should both lose their jobs and be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law for committing those crimes. If government is allowed to get away with these crimes, then there is no place and no activity that can't be secretly recorded by them. If the government is truly worried about the well being of AMP workers that might be trafficked for nefarious purposes, then all they have to do is raid the place with INS or Border Patrol and ask for their papers. Anyone that answered "Yes, I'm being held here against my will and forced to have anonymous sex with strangers" should be taken into protective custody. Then, and only then, could an investigation begin to discover who is responsible for their being in that situation / condition.
Shaggy.
Indian River
02-26-19, 15:16
I'd be surprised if that trick ever works again. Every bomb scare that clears an AMP will be immediately followed by thorough search of the property. News on the Asian underground network travels fast. I expect that AMPs nationwide have already been checked.Maybe AMPs need to actively watch their shop after closing hours to make sure no one is entering their shop after closing and placing cameras etc.
Seems like the police and prosecutor are using the same play book they use in Seattle. Reel the public in with the headlines of Sex slavery and human trafficking getting the public on your side. But then you peel the layers off to find out it was just a bunch of working girls that want to make a buck. Wouldn't surprise me if Sawanee Hunt and her organization isn't behind funding this sting. Sucks for the dudes when they just want to get some relief.Dude, gtfo with that. There is 100% sex slavery in the AMP hustle. I'm a patron. I've gotten my beak wet countless times at an AMP. I recognize I am part of the problem of this larger issue. I just don't care. I'm a selfish asshole. That said, the issues raised here are not phony or a media hustle. It's very real. Asian sex slavery is a problem.
Just drove by GG and the place is closed with a note on the door. Didn't dare stop to see what it said but it's an empty lot and all the lights are out.Tokyo in Longwood is also closed with a note on the door. Says had to close my doors for a while or something to that effect.
TapDisBong
02-26-19, 17:27
Dude, gtfo with that. There is 100% sex slavery in the AMP hustle. I'm a patron. I've gotten my beak wet countless times at an AMP. I recognize I am part of the problem of this larger issue. I just don't care. I'm a selfish asshole. That said, the issues raised here are not phony or a media hustle. It's very real. Asian sex slavery is a problem.So where's the trafficking here? The ladies could have left anytime. Nobody was stopping them. So you're saying the end demand folks don't work with cops and prosecutors to push there agenda? So are you also saying that you believe the cops and the here? I can point you to all the shit that was done in Seattle to show that it was just dog and pony show funded by End Demand people.
Horsetrader
02-26-19, 18:33
There is 100% sex slavery in the AMP hustle.I have no idea what the percentage is, but I'm certain it isn't 100%.
Several years ago I got to know one of the Philadelphia AMP girls very well (outside the business). This was a Korean girl in a large all Korean AMP. During our many non-AMP times together she told many stories of that spa, I'm 100% confident that her AMP was not a sex slavery place. She and the other girls worked there by choice.
I have no doubts that some AMPs operate as described in recent published reports. It just isn't 100%.
I think most of us are already aware that attitudes of commercial sex in much of Asia are much different than in North America. It's not a highly regarded vocation, but it also isn't taboo as it is in North America.
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