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OrlandoGuy123
12-05-08, 15:56
Andrew:
I too recently experienced Tara Marie's services. You are right on the money.
Good massage but definately no extra's available.
I finally got together with Tara Marie this week after many missed connections.
Phone listed on the shut-down web site was working the last time I tried -- 321-848-2907. You can also contact her at (my space dot com/afcheerdmb)
Good news and bad news:
* Photos are legitimate, she's maybe even hotter in person, 8/10
* Tits are huge, 9.5/10
* Ass is fine, 8.5/10
* Massage wasn't best ever, but a solid 8/10.
* Asked if I wanted draping, I said no, and it remained off the whole hour
* Didn't seem to mind when I came to attention after the flip
* Big titties ended up on various parts of me throughout
But ...
* No "accidental" touching
* No extras, politely declined upon request
I will definitely repeat, if I can make connection. I have a gut feeling things could get more happy after a few more visits.
Have fun!
OrlandoGuy123
12-05-08, 16:50
Originally Posted by Andrew Cz
I finally got together with Tara Marie this week after many missed connections.
Phone listed on the shut-down web site was working the last time I tried -- 321-848-2907. You can also contact her at (my space dot com/afcheerdmb)
Good news and bad news:
* Photos are legitimate, she's maybe even hotter in person, 8/10
* Tits are huge, 9.5/10
* Ass is fine, 8.5/10
* Massage wasn't best ever, but a solid 8/10.
* Asked if I wanted draping, I said no, and it remained off the whole hour
* Didn't seem to mind when I came to attention after the flip
* Big titties ended up on various parts of me throughout
But ...
* No "accidental" touching
* No extras, politely declined upon request
I will definitely repeat, if I can make connection. I have a gut feeling things could get more happy after a few more visits.
Have fun!"
Orlandoguy:
I too recently met with Tara Marie and had the exact same experience. When asked for extra's she politely declined.
Good massage though!
Orange Knight
12-06-08, 00:03
I had the pleasure of visiting Gina in Altamonte today. She was gracious enough to accomodate me on short notice. Her pressure was, as requested, light to medium, and she asked for feedback throughout the massage as to how I was enjoying it.
She emphasized my favorite areas: the scalp and the soles of the feet and also made me a very happy camper. My thanks to the previous poster who accurately described Gina as a "cute and busty black woman" with a professional demeanor and a clean and private office.
I will definitely repeat.
Had a with session Marisa at NT yesterday..........
Massage: Excellent; Paid $80 Did'nt feel like a door fee.
Physique:Short and Petite
Breast:OK
Butt:Nice
Face:Cute
Age:Late twenties;Looks very youthful
Extra therapeutic massage : Very Open.
Tip: $ ( It was Mind-Blowing )Shouldn't make such a large tip public on this forum. Many will not approve of such genorosity. We just had a cease fire on the last Tip War that lasted for many weeks.
Just joking. Good report I was wondering about her service.
Be Safe
DK
Mistamunky
12-06-08, 22:17
Howdy, all.
I've been reading for a while and finally decided to post.
I don't persue this hobby much; I'm mainly looking for a standard massage, sans top, that doesn't cost me an arm and a leg.
I have a regular place for legit massages and I haven't been able to find a sure thing place that I like.
Any suggestions are more than welcome.
For my report:
I've been a little gun-shy. I was John stopped in Seminole country during the summer. Nothing happened, but the LEO did a good job scaring me. As a result, I am very wary to try anything new.
Went to NT recently. Saw an old friend there (Not Lilly).
Hadn't seen her in a while and she wanted to chat. I told her about the LEO encounter, and we talked about it for a long while. I left satisfied. She was hot, as always and more than enthusiastic.
Door: . 5 (half hour)
Tip: . 8
The only thing that bothered me was the tip. In hindsight, it seems excessive for what little I look for.
Please be merciful; I am a newb and know it takes a lot to earn trust and respect here.
Shouldn't make such a large tip public on this forum. Many will not approve of such genorosity. We just had a cease fire on the last Tip War that lasted for many weeks.
Just joking. Good report I was wondering about her service.
Be Safe
DKYou've clearly made your point.I'd rather keep out of the wars on here.
Howdy, all.
I've been reading for a while and finally decided to post.
I don't persue this hobby much; I'm mainly looking for a standard massage, sans top, that doesn't cost me an arm and a leg.
I have a regular place for legit massages and I haven't been able to find a sure thing place that I like.
Any suggestions are more than welcome.
For my report:
I've been a little gun-shy. I was John stopped in Seminole country during the summer. Nothing happened, but the LEO did a good job scaring me. As a result, I am very wary to try anything new.
Went to NT recently. Saw an old friend there (Not Lilly).
Hadn't seen her in a while and she wanted to chat. I told her about the LEO encounter, and we talked about it for a long while. I left satisfied. She was hot, as always and more than enthusiastic.
Door: . 5 (half hour)
Tip: . 8
The only thing that bothered me was the tip. In hindsight, it seems excessive for what little I look for.
Please be merciful; I am a newb and know it takes a lot to earn trust and respect here.Not sure about Sans top but you'll sure get a good massage from Pearl at ToA (and it will not be absolutely necessary to give a .8 tip)
Take it easy
Shouldn't make such a large tip public on this forum. Many will not approve of such genorosity. We just had a cease fire on the last Tip War that lasted for many weeks.
DKHaha - yeah I think the cease fire has held good!
Rooster8802
12-08-08, 16:10
I had the pleasure of visiting Gina in Altamonte today. She was gracious enough to accomodate me on short notice. Her pressure was, as requested, light to medium, and she asked for feedback throughout the massage as to how I was enjoying it.
She emphasized my favorite areas: the scalp and the soles of the feet and also made me a very happy camper. My thanks to the previous poster who accurately described Gina as a "cute and busty black woman" with a professional demeanor and a clean and private office.
I will definitely repeat.
Where does this Gina post her ads? I recall the name/know I've seen them, but can't find them in any of the usual spots nowadays.
John Terry
12-08-08, 16:32
She posts in Therapeutic on CL
Rooster8802
12-08-08, 17:54
Let me just say that Tracy at NT is a sweetheart. I visited last week for the first time in forever (so long that I'm still calling it NT).
Very professional, thorough and beautiful to boot. And she was the nicest masseuse I've run across in a very long time.
Rooster8802
12-08-08, 18:05
She posts in Therapeutic on CL
My bad, I see it now. I did that search and saw the tranny thing at the top and didn't notice her ads were in there as well.
Let me just say that Tracy at NT is a sweetheart. I visited last week for the first time in forever (so long that I'm still calling it NT).
Very professional, thorough and beautiful to boot. And she was the nicest masseuse I've run across in a very long time.
I totally agree with you.
My first visit to Orlando will be in a month. I will be there for business at the convention center. I need to find a 3 or 4 star hotel in the area or within 10-15 miles or so. Any help in that regard would be appriciated. It has to have an outside pool so the WIFE can lay out and I can slip off to an amp. Which brings me to the other question. I've read the board and since I don't know areas of interest or names I'm kinda lost. Any help? Thanks. I have Indiana, Memphis, Louisville info if ya'all need it.
TWO NUTTS (FEEL FREE TO PM ANY SECRETS)
My first visit to Orlando will be in a month. I will be there for business at the convention center. I need to find a 3 or 4 star hotel in the area or within 10-15 miles or so. Any help in that regard would be appriciated. It has to have an outside pool so the WIFE can lay out and I can slip off to an amp. Which brings me to the other question. I've read the board and since I don't know areas of interest or names I'm kinda lost. Any help? Thanks. I have Indiana, Memphis, Louisville info if ya'all need it.
TWO NUTTS (FEEL FREE TO PM ANY SECRETS)Assa is on the intersect Kirkman/International Drive but the convention center is a way away from there. I don't know the hotels so can't hekp too much there. I think there may be some massage available nearer the center but maybe the more local guys can help with that..?
Take it easy out there!
My first visit to Orlando will be in a month. I will be there for business at the convention center. I need to find a 3 or 4 star hotel in the area or within 10-15 miles or so. Any help in that regard would be appriciated. It has to have an outside pool so the WIFE can lay out and I can slip off to an amp. Which brings me to the other question. I've read the board and since I don't know areas of interest or names I'm kinda lost. Any help? Thanks. I have Indiana, Memphis, Louisville info if ya'all need it.
TWO NUTTS (FEEL FREE TO PM ANY SECRETS)
Try the Portofino or Hard Rock near Universal Studio's, they are both within a 5 to 10 minute drive of the convention center and easy access on and off of Interstate 4. PM me for some info on an AMP.
There is a place on E. Colonial a mile or so east of Greenway Ford that advertises massages. I stopped in and paid. 5 at the door. Everything was legit and the provider was 6/10, blonde, 5'6", C-cups. She looked a little "white trashy".
Anyways, the massage was an 8/10. Any idea if extras are offered here. I didn't ask and she didn't offer. I'll try again unless I hear otherwise.
I met with Tara Marie this week. She lives in an upscale gated community on the East side of town. It appeared that she lived alone, although it seems to be too large of a house for one person. Maybe she has roommates or a b/f?
Anyways, she is as described. Extremely good looking, long brown hair, and giant breasts. Her legs are as smooth as silk for the couple seconds they accidentaly rubbed against me. Her massage was excellent, IMHO. One of the best I have had and she kept me for the full hour even though I was 10 minutes late.
I opted for no draping and she happily obliged. As previously posted, there was no accidntal touching and she kept her distance from the happy place. I would like to think after repeat visits that she would open up the menu, but I have my doubts. I want to see her again, but. 8 for one hour with no extras is a bit steep.
I'll post again if I repeat the visit with her.
Anyone that has seen Gina in Altamonte, can you elaborate on the happy ending?
Also, what is her donation for an hour?
PM if you like.
Thanks!
Take It Deep
12-10-08, 13:34
Hey Two Nutts,
The Rosen Shingle Creek Resort Hotel on Universal Blvd. Is excellent (4 Star). It is 1-2 miles from the Convention Center.
Ginza AMP on Westwood Blvd. Is 1-2 miles away and ASSA AMP on International Dr. Is 4-5 miles.
Deep
My first visit to Orlando will be in a month. I will be there for business at the convention center. I need to find a 3 or 4 star hotel in the area or within 10-15 miles or so. Any help in that regard would be appriciated. It has to have an outside pool so the WIFE can lay out and I can slip off to an amp. Which brings me to the other question. I've read the board and since I don't know areas of interest or names I'm kinda lost. Any help? Thanks. I have Indiana, Memphis, Louisville info if ya'all need it.
TWO NUTTS (FEEL FREE TO PM ANY SECRETS)
On local news tonight. Looks like a favorite place has been busted based to some extent on info the MBI gathered over the internet.
MikeInBrazil
12-10-08, 18:53
Yeah what a shame, http://www.local6.com/news/18247031/detail.html. I swear can't these guys find something harder to do that actually effects us citizens like I dont know maybe stopping all the violent crimes going on in Metrowest area. FUCKING PIGS get some balls and do some real police work. We have people getting killed in clubs and people shooting up Walmarts over here in Metrowest.
On local news tonight. Looks like a favorite place has been busted based to some extent on info the MBI gathered over the internet.The raid took place after a yearlong intelligence operation that included Internet posts from men who visited and raided the spa, Holfeld reported.
Yeah what a shame, http://www.local6.com/news/18247031/detail.html. I swear can't these guys find something harder to do that actually effects us citizens like I dont know maybe stopping all the violent crimes going on in Metrowest area. FUCKING PIGS get some balls and do some real police work. We have people getting killed in clubs and people shooting up Walmarts over here in Metrowest.Just saw it on the news, they showed usasexguide.info website credited it for being the source of the bust.
It's easy prey they do minimal to no work, we supply them with all the information they go pick up the promotion/good old boy pat on the back.
If you were to ask the owners or ladies they would all tell you the same thing please don't post anything on these websites.
We need to be more careful with how we share information. In Washington D.C. we've shot ourselves in the foot also. The only way I share my results anymore is with trusted seniors PM`s only! If they don't have some sort of history posting results in the years past I don't respond. We have a couple places left however my guess would be the way some of these knuckleheads up here share openly their visit results they'll be closed soon also.
It's a sad thing that this just can`t become legalized, taxed and medical exams recorded. You're absolutely right there so much more serious crime to deal with. It's too easy for them just kick the door in and around up a bunch of helpless unarmed women.
Yeah what a shame, http://www.local6.com/news/18247031/detail.html. I swear can't these guys find something harder to do that actually effects us citizens like I dont know maybe stopping all the violent crimes going on in Metrowest area. FUCKING PIGS get some balls and do some real police work. We have people getting killed in clubs and people shooting up Walmarts over here in Metrowest.
Exec Talent
12-10-08, 20:44
I told you so.
And, anyone who thinks that the media is any smarter than MBI needs to check out this excerpt from the story.
The raid took place after a yearlong intelligence operation that included Internet posts from men who visited and raided the spa, Holfeld reported.
So which one of you guys was in on the raid?
I think they meant "rated." Bunch of idiots.
Thanks guys (you know who you are) that PM'D info. Hotel info was very helpful. Looks like one aspect of my trip will be derailed tho.
Same thing happened in Louisville Ky. a couple years back. We had a street that was like a amp candy shop, one or two on every corner and some in between within 3 miles. I think 19 total. There was too much chatter on our Louisville boards with names, places, and prices of service. They are all gone now. I second previous posters suggestion of using pm's for the dirty details.
PLAY SAFE & BE CAREFULL
TWO NUTTS
Gentleman 100
12-10-08, 22:01
I would be interested in knowing if any charges actually got prosecuted, or was it just a show raid and all charges dropped for lack of evidence.
Whenever I visited Assa, I would only got legitimate massages with my clothes on. I just hope that these innocent victimized women slaves are able to help from social services (sarcasm intended).
Be safe and PM details to those you trust.
Sponge Worthy
12-10-08, 22:31
Well, you guys may as well pack up and quit. Seriously, what's the fucking point of the site if everyone is afraid to talk to anyone else? It should be no surprise to anyone here that cops monitor this site. They'd be delinquent in their duty if they didn't monitor a site like this one, or grossly incompetent.
ET likes to talk about how dumb the cops are, but I don't agree. In fact, I think it's pretty stupid to underestimate your adversary. However, going to PM only is, in my opinion, just as stupid. If you don't really know who's on the other side of a pseudonym, then it's just as likely a cop as someone else. You don't know, so why not be totally paranoid and just assume EVERYONE else here is a cop? After all, that's the only way for you to be safe.
...or you could realize that this changes nothing. So a place got closed and you automatically assume it's ONLY because of comments posted here. I sincerely doubt that's the case. Sure, it may have been part of the investigation, but even the "stupid" cops are aware that an Asian Massage Parlor is potentially giving happy endings. It's not exactly a stretch of the imagination to think they're investigating a LOT of AMP's - with or without the assistance of posts here.
Face it, guys. You aren't that important.
Well, you guys may as well pack up and quit.
However, going to PM only is, in my opinion, just as stupid. If you don't really know who's on the other side of a pseudonym, then it's just as likely a cop as someone else. You don't know, so why not be totally paranoid and just assume EVERYONE else here is a cop? After all, that's the only way for you to be safe.
If they don't have some sort of history posting results in the years past I don't respond. If you check someone else's history of post you'll know exactly who to talk to!
I agree this forum is not the only source that LE utilizes. Why make it easy? So they can spend more time eating doughnuts!
Rooster8802
12-10-08, 23:45
They don't need this site to know what's going on. But it sure helps in getting a better success (for them, anyway) rate. Helps getting a warrant signed, too.
The cops on here are senior members, with a plenty of posts. They are indistinguishable from the "true" senior members. Some of them very likely partake for a while before deciding to make a move.
I guaran-damn-tee it.
Worldsoffun
12-10-08, 23:53
Well, you guys may as well pack up and quit.
I probably should go back and read some of my old posts. I try to be discreet when appropriate. Providers that advertise on CL, BP and even on our Forum are not hiding anything from Leo. Some try to use "codes" like "roses" and "lollipops" and some of us talk like we are having dreams. This does not buy anyone any legal protection to talk in code and I feel less inclined to have to be discreet when talking on the Forum (with a few exceptions) about these ladies. After all they put themselves out there for all to see, including Leo.
AMPs on the other hand are trying to stay below the radar screen and I don't think its appropriate to give too much detail. I've seen cases where our discussions have caused people to get fired for being too nice to us. I would even suspect information posted by those on the Forum has even helped Leo in their planning. AMP providers don't put it everyone's face and I try to respect that.
Even the SW community are out on the street being obvious and there is nothing we are going to say that is going to put them at anymore risk than they already take.
I share with trusted Senior Members in PM's and I've read their posts and talked to them enough to know that aren't tied to Leo. My sense of the "hunt" is well-developed and I can pick out the good ones pretty easily. Just because someone is a Senior Member, doesn't qualify them for any special treatment, they have to earn it over time and I hope I've earned the trust of others. We run into freaks on this Forum from time to time as well and I really hope Leo takes note. Most of us just want a fun, safe hobby and a chance to spread our love around!
I try to share some intel publicly to help others learn about our great town, but there is a whole different exchange that occurs in PM's and I think that is just smart and appropriate.
Just my two cents.
WOF
Since I no these two massage parlors are in the tourist distrit. I wonder are their any kind of investagatin going on with them either. I know they are both run by the same spanish women and there has been a couple of arrest there in the pass including unlicensed bodywork. I know you can get just about anything at them 2 places. Looks like everyone should be staying out of the toorist areas for awile. Just cool hit for while.
I suppose if there is any good news is that none of us are listed in the news report as having been arrested. In fact it looks like they only got the therapists.
Gentleman 100 - if you go to the orange county corrections website and punch in Cui and Huang (the other two don't show up) you'll see their booking record. The big charge I guess is the RICO charge.
Hey MBI - if you guys keep this up the MP business is going to need a congressional bailout. Doesn't it make more sense to let the willing participants contribute to their livelihood? Just a thought.
Let's be careful out there!
Dodger Bulldog
12-11-08, 00:30
Don't be naive.
There is nothing on this site that LEO doesn't already know.
To think that we can figure out where there is action but the police cannot do the same without our information is the height of arrogance.
It is their FULL TIME JOB! And when they go home, a colleague takes over and reports back to them what was learned while they were sleeping.
They have the ability to run background checks, credit checks, arrest reports, use wiretaps, pay witnesses our tax dollars for information, and a whole lot more.
If any of us had all that time and all of those resources, we would surely know a hell of a lot more than we do now, wouldn't we?
Obviously the police know a whole lot more than any monger on this board does, and much sooner.
There was a big AMP bust in Orlando a few years back. I went through every AMP post on this board over the previous year and found that less than 5% of the AMPs that were busted were ever mentioned on this board.
The police certainly do read this board. It is purely for pleasure, not business.
There is no point to witholding reports.
Don't be naive.
DB
Worldsoffun
12-11-08, 00:44
All the respected big names coming out of the woodwork on this one. That's what I like about the Forum. Wisdom and differing opinions!
WOF
Bklyn Born
12-11-08, 10:12
http://www.wesh.com/news/18251820/detail.html
I am sure most of you read or heard about the "Men In Black" raid on Idrive yesterday.
Be Safe
BB
http://www.wesh.com/news/18251820/detail.html
I am sure most of you read or heard about the "Men In Black" raid on Idrive yesterday.
Be Safe
BBWow. That's a shame. I'm not sure there was any more on offer there than the services that make you feel happy when you leave. The scary thing is that I have recommended that place (and been there a few times myself).
As some of you know, I am not a permanent resident in Florida and will be going back overseas today. I'll be back in May 2009 for a couple of months and hopefully things may have settled down again by then.
Take it easy guys and have a great Xmas and 2009!
Sponge Worthy
12-11-08, 11:54
If they don't have some sort of history posting results in the years past I don't respond. If you check someone else's history of post you'll know exactly who to talk to!
I agree this forum is not the only source that LE utilizes. Why make it easy? So they can spend more time eating doughnuts!
Do you honestly believe that cops would not post a report in order to gain your trust, if they felt that doing so would advance their investigation? Cops lie. Hell, some of them don't even have to lie. They take our tax dollars and go get a few trips to a massage parlor to see what happens. If they get a happy ending, it's in the line of duty.
Your criteria for trust (post history) is pretty weak if your objective is to hide information from the cops. Hell, you just told them EXACTLY what they need to do in order to get information from you.
Exec Talent
12-11-08, 12:37
Not only will I agree to answer questions, I will insist on a lie detector test. There is not a better way to make money than to get arrested when you have done nothing wrong.
What amazes me candidly, is that most cops can find their way to work in the morning. When 10 of them show up for a fender bender (except in Pine Hills, of course) I just assume they got lost.
Has anyone seen Sarina or heard anything good/bad about her? I'd like to see her, but cannot find any reports on her. She doesn't advertise much, but her BP ad is:
http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/such_a_dreary_day_let_me_give_you_my_sarina_s_sensual_full_bodyrub_down_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1191520
I think that if the government can spend over $400K of our money on a lavish European trip where I'm sure someone got laid at my expense, then the least they can do is leave us alone to spend whatever we want on our own "trips".
"The business development trip to London, Paris, St. Petersburg and Madrid was supposed to cost taxpayers $255,000. The actual tab was far higher — in excess of $430,000, the Sun Sentinel found in a detailed review of the July trip's costs." http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/nationworld/sfl-flgovtrip07sbdec07,0,5721620.story
It's our government doing harm to people who've done no harm.
Member #5324
12-12-08, 11:25
Check out this news clip of the Assa story from the local Fox news. Make sure to watch the last 30 seconds, where they mention this site and show the home page, and say that uncle Leo threatens to continue to use it to shut down places.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US
Assa was a nice place, with very kind girls who always seemed to enjoy their work. It's a real shame that they feel they have to do this to hard working people trying to make a living in a small business.
Exec Talent
12-12-08, 11:42
Check out this news clip of the Assa story from the local Fox news. Make sure to watch the last 30 seconds, where they mention this site and show the home page, and say that uncle Leo threatens to continue to use it to shut down places.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US
Assa was a nice place, with very kind girls who always seemed to enjoy their work. It's a real shame that they feel they have to do this to hard working people trying to make a living in a small business.
Call me Naive.
Check out this news clip of the Assa story from the local Fox news. Make sure to watch the last 30 seconds, where they mention this site and show the home page, and say that uncle Leo threatens to continue to use it to shut down places.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US
Thanks a lot Putt Putt,
Now for those of you who don't believe what I've been saying sense September 2006 this web site Putt Putt it has provided tells it all. I believe the quote goes something like this "police say they have used this web site to take down this spa"
I'm not saying they only used this site. They have an abundance of options, why should we make their job easier? This site on the open forum tells them exactly how to carry themselves upon entry where and how to place the tip, Shower bags, and even what to say. What more wood you need.
It's just my belief that reading a member's past posts and feedback they may have gotten gives me a clear indication of who I can PM my encounters to. There are many senior members here in the Washington D.C. area who can tell you how are declined in AMP`s and quality of the ladies has fell upon us since 2006.
I know some of you may say stick to your jokes AJ, but I use PM frequently and receive many PM`s to help me with new talent. Post openly if you want I just think we're shooting ourselves in the foot with the open forum.
John Terry
12-12-08, 14:05
Has anyone seen Sarina or heard anything good/bad about her? I'd like to see her, but cannot find any reports on her. She doesn't advertise much, but her BP ad is:
http://orlando.backpage.com/BodyRubs/such_a_dreary_day_let_me_give_you_my_sarina_s_sensual_full_bodyrub_down_/classifieds/ViewAd?oid=1191520
Search the forum. At least on person has commented. It may been in CL category. I have heard she is decent.
RogerDaRabbit
12-12-08, 15:57
I am new here. Seen this site on the news.
I see Lynn from longwood. OW, Add reads, I'll do the work, the elixi.
OK, If you like older, with that library look, huge breast, nice suckable nipples, see Lynn. She is a little overweight, but has a sexy voice and will let you play. Great ending.
Sponge Worthy
12-12-08, 16:26
Check out this news clip of the Assa story from the local Fox news. Make sure to watch the last 30 seconds, where they mention this site and show the home page, and say that uncle Leo threatens to continue to use it to shut down places.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US
Assa was a nice place, with very kind girls who always seemed to enjoy their work. It's a real shame that they feel they have to do this to hard working people trying to make a living in a small business.
I ask once again, what's changed? What's the point of the site if you guys stop talking? Personally, I don't care if you do. Hell, there are some of you that I really do wish would just completely disappear from the site, but that's only because I get sick and tired of the "SEE, I TOLD YOU SO" crap from a few of you.
If you know that cops are here (and now you have hyperbolic video evidence) and you're afraid of them finding out information, then shut the fuck up and go away. This site, and others like them, do not operate without public comment. If you think that going to PM information only is going to prevent you from leaking information to the cops, then you're just deluding yourself. Even if you claim some ESP to detect cops, as ET often does, that does not prevent others from stupidly disseminating information you shared with them via PM.
So go ahead, quit. Hang it up. Leave the site. That's the only option you truly have to achieve your stated goals. Don't let the door hit you in the ass. Bye.
R Consultant
12-12-08, 16:58
If anyone doubts the LE don't use a site like this for help in locating issues then your fooling yourselves. Isn't it easier for them to click a mouse and then send someone end to make the bust. Its elementary! Personally the guys on this site are doing LE a favor by putting in the miles and coin and so forth.
Did you hear of any Hobbyist getting arrested? Nope! They didn't care about them they wanted the owner and the women.
So we just keep posting and having a blast and when they raid the next MP another one is just going to open up somewhere else. Its the nature of the game and LE knows that.
Happy Hunting..
Check out this news clip of the Assa story from the local Fox news. Make sure to watch the last 30 seconds, where they mention this site and show the home page, and say that uncle Leo threatens to continue to use it to shut down places.
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=8047961&version=1&locale=EN-US
Assa was a nice place, with very kind girls who always seemed to enjoy their work. It's a real shame that they feel they have to do this to hard working people trying to make a living in a small business.
Sponge Worthy
12-12-08, 17:11
Did you hear of any Hobbyist getting arrested? Nope! They didn't care about them they wanted the owner and the women.
Why should they arrest us? We're doing all the investigative work for them and they collect a paycheck.
SmackThatAss
12-12-08, 19:37
I'm with you guys. I want to get paid to go see these ladies. I have been to several AMP's and most are very friendly. I have also visited this amp that was busted. The ladies are sweethearts?
Do you thing they will be able to open up again or just move elsewhere?
Why should they arrest us? We're doing all the investigative work for them and they collect a paycheck.
I just went to a great place Monday night and now afraid to post a review. Maybe if I post "AoT" is a great spot still is enough for those who matter.
Not My Job
12-12-08, 23:01
"In my dream, I visited a place. Won't say the name or location. At said place, I had a great time. But I won't say with whom, or what activities. Not even what acronyms or code-words were enjoyed. This place built their business over a long period of time via good old word of mouth/sans ads. No big Billboards or Sports page coupons. They always kept a low profile, but enjoyed a much better than average retention rate with a better than average staff. Including the MMSN. Please don't ask me for details. I'd truly like to continue patronizing my treasured location" Jeez, I just woke up. Great dream. Too bad it can't be true!
NMJ
Exec Talent
12-12-08, 23:53
Some guys, for as smart as they think they are and also would like to have others believe, are really pretty stupid. Dare I say idiot again?
I started the Real Deal thread for a reason. And, I spelled out the criteria. Nowhere in the criteria did it say you need to list any acronyms that are often bantered about.
Guys who feel the need to post graphic reviews just don't get it. Guys who feel they need them, just don't get it. Learn how to treat women with respect, shower, be nice, in fact be the boyfriend she wished she had, and you will get it.
Too many guys look at women in this business as machines. They see a graphic review and expect that they should be treated the same way. Wrong.
I am a big boy. If a reliable member of this board posts that he has seen someone and would see them again, then they are someone worth considering. Little boys feel the need to "share" all the details of their time with a woman. Grow up already. We are not sophomores in High School anymore.
BTW, I have met enough LEOs over the years to know they are not very bright. In fact, I know a lot of bright people and not one LEO among them. Someone running to their defense every ten minutes makes me wonder about their motivation. Defend them somewhere else. Maybe at your next policeman's ball?
Worldsoffun
12-13-08, 00:42
There are many senior members here in the Washington D.C. area who can tell you how are declined in AMP`s and quality of the ladies has fell upon us since 2006.
I don't know about 2006 in D.C. but you gotta love that 14K Spa at 14th and K Street right now. My favorite stop when I'm doing business in D.C. Stop by some day and tell the ladies Worlds of Fun sent you! Can't think of anything that is not on the menu.
WOF
Sponge Worthy
12-13-08, 00:57
Some guys, for as smart as they think they are and also would like to have others believe, are really pretty stupid. Dare I say idiot again?
I started the Real Deal thread for a reason. And, I spelled out the criteria. Nowhere in the criteria did it say you need to list any acronyms that are often bantered about.
Guys who feel the need to post graphic reviews just don't get it. Guys who feel they need them, just don't get it. Learn how to treat women with respect, shower, be nice, in fact be the boyfriend she wished she had, and you will get it.
Too many guys look at women in this business as machines. They see a graphic review and expect that they should be treated the same way. Wrong.
I am a big boy. If a reliable member of this board posts that he has seen someone and would see them again, then they are someone worth considering. Little boys feel the need to "share" all the details of their time with a woman. Grow up already. We are not sophomores in High School anymore.
BTW, I have met enough LEOs over the years to know they are not very bright. In fact, I know a lot of bright people and not one LEO among them. Someone running to their defense every ten minutes makes me wonder about their motivation. Defend them somewhere else. Maybe at your next policeman's ball?
I really love it when you come here to insult everyone else and hint at what a genius you are. Really, this is better than anything on TV.
Not My Job
12-13-08, 01:38
"In my dream, I visited a place. Won't say the name or location. At said place, I had a great time. But I won't say with whom, or what activities. Not even what acronyms or code-words were enjoyed. This place built their business over a long period of time via good old word of mouth/sans ads. No big Billboards or Sports page coupons. They always kept a low profile, but enjoyed a much better than average retention rate with a better tnan average staff. Including the MMSN. The customer base was study and loyal.
Please don't ask me for any details. I'd truly like to continue patronizing my treasured location"
Jeez, I just woke up. Great dream. Too bad it can't be true!
NMJ
Exec Talent
12-13-08, 06:00
I really love it when you come here to insult everyone else and hint at what a genius you are. Really, this is better than anything on TV.
I did not insult "Everyone."
Personally, I thought Exec Talent`s post was right on target.
I no opinions are like A- holes every body has got one.
This is exactly what I was trying to say. Not that I am perfect, I also believe in being nice. I've received so many more rewards.
Worldsoffun
12-13-08, 10:45
Personally, I thought Exec Talent`s post was right on target.
I agree ET is usually right on target. He tells it like it is and generally doesn't hold anything back. I've never felt insulted by anything he ever says. He also knows how to treat a lady from what I've heard and read. I'm thinking those who feel insulted probably have found a shoe that fits? Those with paper thin skins should probably not play in our game.
WOF
The reports state that, among other things, the ladies from the ASSA Spa were arrested for prostitution. Why don't they show up on the OCSO site under prostitution arrests? Perhaps one of our LEO members could provide the insight.
Exec Talent
12-13-08, 13:43
The reports state that, among other things, the ladies from the ASSA Spa were arrested for prostitution. Why don't they show up on the OCSO site under prostitution arrests? Perhaps one of our LEO members could provide the insight.
I have brought up this issue before. Most of these arrests are for giving massages without a license. They go in with ski masks and tear up the place and hype it as prostitution and racketeering. It is all about intimidation. Intimidation of the AMPs and intimidation of the customers. I wouldn't be surprised if they waterboarded a few of the ladies when they had them in custody!
Most escorts who service Orange country do not know of all the local ordinances with which they have to comply. Do you know it is against a local ordinance to visit someone in their hotel room without stopping and registering at the hotel desk? That is what they charged a friend mine with.
The whole idea is to get the AMPs to go away. If they scare the customers off, and they have no business, that will work too. That was why this web site was mentioned. (It was not for me to say, I told you so). MBI wants us to know we are being watched.
BOO!
Clinton Bush
12-13-08, 13:57
I have brought up this issue before. Most of these arrests are for giving massages without a license. They go in with ski masks and tear up the place and hype it as prostitution and racketeering. It is all about intimidation. Intimidation of the AMPs and intimidation of the customers. I wouldn't be surprised if they waterboarded a few of the ladies when they had them in custody!
Most escorts who service Orange country do not know of all the local ordinances with which they have to comply. Do you know it is against a local ordinance to visit someone in their hotel room without stopping and registering at the hotel desk? That is what they charged a friend mine with.
The whole idea is to get the AMPs to go away. If they scare the customers off, and they have no business, that will work too. That was why this web site was mentioned. (It was not for me to say, I told you so). MBI wants us to know we are being watched.
BOO!
But then the worthless goons who work there wouldn't be able to get their rocks off by intimidating a few tiny Korean ladies who are trying to make a little money giving massages with HE's. What a waste of taxpayer money!
Worldsoffun
12-13-08, 14:02
The reports state that, among other things, the ladies from the ASSA Spa were arrested for prostitution. Why don't they show up on the OCSO site under prostitution arrests? Perhaps one of our LEO members could provide the insight.
We all know Leo uses this site to help with their activities. Anyone who feels otherwise has their head in the sand or is just plain naive. Many studies show that the average IQ of a Law Enforcement Officer is below the average population and they need all the help they can get.
Turn about is fair game. There are a number of public domain websites that I use to improve my odds of hunting by tracking Leo's activities. Leo is very helpful in that regard. Snake mentioned one of them in his last post. When you try to predict the future performance of an investment portfolio, you sometimes have to look at past performance to improve your odds of success. I have found this also to be true in mongering. Sometimes even spreading a little false information can be entertaining. You can sometimes train Leo to jump through hoops on command like a dog. But never try to publicly embarrass them. That is just plain stupid and will come back to bite you.
To answer Snake's question. I saw two of them on that site listed under prostitution, entering a place of prostitution and RICO. The third lady did not have the RICO charge.
WOF
RogerDaRabbit
12-13-08, 15:18
Yeah, they want to take all the fun away, from drugs to sex. Not a free country! lol
It's our government doing harm to people who've done no harm.
Sponge Worthy
12-13-08, 17:50
"In my dream, I visited a place. Won't say the name or location. At said place, I had a great time. But I won't say with whom, or what activities. Not even what acronyms or code-words were enjoyed. This place built their business over a long period of time via good old word of mouth/sans ads. No big Billboards or Sports page coupons. They always kept a low profile, but enjoyed a much better than average retention rate with a better tnan average staff. Including the MMSN. The customer base was study and loyal.
Please don't ask me for any details. I'd truly like to continue patronizing my treasured location"
Jeez, I just woke up. Great dream. Too bad it can't be true!
NMJThank you for providing a preview of the kind of useful information we can expect to find on this board while everyone freaks out, despite that nothing has changed.
Sponge Worthy
12-13-08, 17:55
Many studies show that the average IQ of a Law Enforcement Officer is below the average population and they need all the help they can get.Really? Can you cite a couple of them? I'm not disputing your word, but it's just that I've never heard this particular line before. My own belief is that the average population is pretty fucking stupid, so something that shows how cops (on average) are dumber than dumb could be quite entertaining. I'd love to read some studies, so please let me know where I can find them.
Clinton Bush
12-13-08, 18:29
Really? Can you cite a couple of them? I'm not disputing your word, but it's just that I've never heard this particular line before. My own belief is that the average population is pretty fucking stupid, so something that shows how cops (on average) are dumber than dumb could be quite entertaining. I'd love to read some studies, so please let me know where I can find them.http://www.thisistrue.com/to_protect_and_serve_6657.html
http://www.adversity.net/0_PoliceFireMuni/PFM_intro.htm
(scroll down and read the "Dumbed Down" stories)
Anyone know where I can get a soapy massage. Perferably not near the areas getting busted. If it is out of the city of orlando that is fine as well.
Indian River
12-13-08, 22:37
Assa will be reserection, sorry reserected (no pun intended) in the Future. It is called "doing business as usual". Lets Get over it. How about some new posts on AMPs. What is new out there without being graphic. These ladies need out help with the coming holidays as such.
VerySlowly
12-14-08, 00:33
Calling the police names is accomplishing nothing.
W.O.F. is correct in that the average patrolman is not picked solely on his/her intellect. The day to day life of a patrolman is incredibly boring, can you imagine riding in a car 8 hrs. a day on the same streets,for 20 yrs.(especially at night) waiting for your pension.
They know these girls better than you do and many have very personal,sexual relationships with them and once in a while one of their own gets caught. But think of the percentages, how many BJ's have you gotten and never been caught? How many cops are doing Sw's and never been caught?
They are not stupid either, rather they are like construction workers, retail clerks, Publix workers etc. many are not particularly aware, ambitious, creative or politically adept. However 20% are picked because they have advanced intellects and abilities, they become the Detectives or advance in rank to lieutenants, captains and the real politicians as high as chief or Sheriff etc.
A small percentage are picked because they are borderline sociopaths with no criminal history, many of these advance to full sociopaths and psychopaths. Before you pick these labels apart, read the title of this post.
Gentleman, who do you think love's to be on swat teams and adore sniper training. What fun it must be to crash in and destroy property and maybe beat or kill somebody. In one case I personally know of, the undercover on the inside of the apartment has already opened the lock and they smashed the door anyway, arrested the couple inside( they were doing private sex shows and agreed to give the UC/officer a HJ at the end) and left the door wide open and left to jail them. What can they do complain and /or sue them? Why- they would just lie, say the door was locked and that would be the end of it.
Some of you argue about giving them information that contributes to the closing of the AMP'S. I think it's extremely humorous, do you know when they know there is illegal activity in an AMP? When the sign goes up!
It is no secret to Law Enforcement what goes on in an amp, they conned that eager reporter into showing this site on TV to intimidate and scare you. Nothing said on here can be used as evidence--nothing! Like in all these cases the states attorney will plead out the case and thats the end of it.
Publicity has been created, the TV channels are notified of the upcoming arrest's and everyone appears to be doing their stated Mission "To protect and Defend" the public.
Many of you don't know the history of MBI or what the old Orlando was like, with a Rub n' tug or a peep show with private booths on every corner. With black SW's pulling their tops down showing their ta-ta's in broad daylight on OBT and when it got "hot" they moved back a block to Nashville.
When you could go to Rooster's or "We knead you" in Caselberry directly behind club Juana and get your haircut in the front and get some other "trim" in the back. "The good old days."
Many attempts have been made to "clean up" this city and many other cities to no avail, the "Politzei" know full well the most they can do is attempt to control it.
Just when they thought they had killed all the services, intimidated the newspapers and telephone directories, "BOOM" along came the internet.
Nobody beats the law of supply and demand--nobody, in the history of humanity.
Lest some of you mongers think I'm blowing smoke up your ass, I'm including a link prepared by MBI itself for your edification.
I'm encouraging everyone to read the whole link below and to write write what you want, enjoy the prose and the info because anything you say does not mean a dam thing in the total scheme of things. They just BS the media that this site is helping them gather "evidence" and everyone here is scared and shook-up. I've been on this site over five years ,if thats true what took them so long. WHAT--they just found out about it--Scheisse, Merde, Mierda!!
If you read the whole link below think about this, MBI starts in 1978 it is now 2008, 30 years later and as we all know Prostitution, drugs, murder and all sorts of mayhem has all but been eliminated in Orlando and all the rest of Fl. LOL----VS http://www.popcenter.org/library/awards/goldstein/1997/97-40.pdf
Worldsoffun
12-14-08, 00:57
Really? Can you cite a couple of them? I'm not disputing your word, but it's just that I've never heard this particular line before. My own belief is that the average population is pretty fucking stupid, so something that shows how cops (on average) are dumber than dumb could be quite entertaining. I'd love to read some studies, so please let me know where I can find them.
I would have to do some digging, but I read a couple of studies that showed IQ's by various professions. Law enforcement was near the bottom of those considered professionals. One showed them below the average. It was similar to the studies where they show the most dangerous professions. LE is even in the top 10. I remember being amused that cab drivers we more intelligent on average as well as more dangerous.
We should probably move this dialogue to the "general" thread.
WOF
Worldsoffun
12-14-08, 01:17
http://www.thisistrue.com/to_protect_and_serve_6657.html
http://www.adversity.net/0_PoliceFireMuni/PFM_intro.htm (scroll down and read the "Dumbed Down" stories)
I was going to dig for the studies, but I think Clinton Bush hit the nail on the head with his links. Next time Leo pulls you over, be nice to them. It takes a lot of balls to be out there facing all of the criminal element with such a handicapped disadvantage of a lower IQ. No wonder they blunder so often. Poor fellas.
And can you blame them for targeting the poor defenseless AMP industry when the real criminals get away with real crimes. The real stuff is too dangerous for them. Poor fellas.
WOF
WOF
Are there any AMPs in the vicinity of the Orlando Sanford airport?
Clinton Bush
12-14-08, 10:56
Anyone know where I can get a soapy massage. Perferably not near the areas getting busted. If it is out of the city of orlando that is fine as well.
Down1,
I've mongered the AMPS from Sarasota to Daytona and I know of no place that offers a soapy massage. If there is they are flying waaaay under the radar.
If anyone does not know what this is -google "soapy massage" and see the very hot videos on the porn web site of the same name. You will ache for one too.
CB
I did not want to get into this exciting discussion. Simply, because I see you are both right. When you are Leo and spend tax money to build cases against adult entertainment industries and working women. That's stupid. It was stupid from the begining to incriminate prostitution. The oldest profession in the world will never die. However, laws should be to protect working women from abusive pimps and people who would force women to prostitute.
On the other hand, a police man/woman is a normal man/woman who happen to enforce these stupid laws. Some of them are stupid and some are smart. They have been trained which makes them above average in their field.
In brief, both sides are right.
The other hot subject of how much information should I write on the board? We recommend sharing as much information as you can. It should be your attitude to share. Reports that does not share info are not worth posting. Reports that share few to so much info are valuable to our hobby without the need to force the member to release info. We would all be happy and thankful (at least me) to read those creative stories of how, why, where, when, how much, how many, how it looked, how it felt, what did you hear, was she vocal, was she loud, ... etc.
Yes some guys say do not be graphic if a girl does something with you does not mean she'll do the same for others. True but not totally true. Some girls (the majority of working girls should not be)/are not YMMV. A professional working girl tries to be unbiased and deliver a quality service for what she's paid for. Also, for best results men/women of the hobby should have common sense. We talked about some common sense points before; simply prepare as you prepare for date.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=713343&highlight=common+sense#post713343
Sponge Worthy
12-14-08, 17:29
http://www.thisistrue.com/to_protect_and_serve_6657.html
http://www.adversity.net/0_PoliceFireMuni/PFM_intro.htm
(scroll down and read the "Dumbed Down" stories)
Those are interesting anecdotes, but not exactly "studies." Still, it does give the flavor of the point referenced earlier.
J Melbourne27
12-15-08, 04:43
I hate to get involved in stuff like this, but what's the point of having a forum that you're not going to say anything on?
The point of the forum is for people to find out what they can get and where and for what price. Can police find out that same information? Yes, so maybe Jackson should close the forum down to protect the Providers and MPs?
Oh but wait, this site funnels lots of business to these different providers and MPs, so closing it would also be hurting the MPs and providers.
No solution as far as I can see, so this discussion is just going to around and around and around like laundry in a washing machine.
Auntie Annie
12-16-08, 10:00
Checked out their as on CL the other day, and also had noticed their sign from driving by. Went in and was met by Jen, a young redhead with a nice upper half and big round bottom. Got the hour "combo" which was supposed to be 1/2 swedish and 1/2 deep tissue for 80. I was pretty disappointed with the result, as she was not very stong, or was just not into putting in a lot of effort. She seemed nice enough, but wasn't really working me that hard, and she knew I had asked for the deep tissue portion, on top of asking her to really work my arms a lot. There was no towell, and the flip was met with. Nothing! Overall, I think the 80 coould have been spent better elsewhere. I may return to try someone new, but certainly won't be asking for Jen again.
RogerDaRabbit
12-16-08, 14:30
I have a buddy, I just found out that comes to this site and says anything, but the truth about some massage parlor gals. He says he gets mad when he waste his money.
I hate to get involved in stuff like this, but what's the point of having a forum that you're not going to say anything on?
The point of the forum is for people to find out what they can get and where and for what price. Can police find out that same information? Yes, so maybe Jackson should close the forum down to protect the Providers and MPs?
Oh but wait, this site funnels lots of business to these different providers and MPs, so closing it would also be hurting the MPs and providers.
No solution as far as I can see, so this discussion is just going to around and around and around like laundry in a washing machine.
FloridaBum
12-16-08, 14:54
For those of you who were concerned about her website being down.
I noticed today that it is back up.
Charlie Morris
12-16-08, 18:09
Down1,
I've mongered the AMPS from Sarasota to Daytona and I know of no place that offers a soapy massage. If there is they are flying waaaay under the radar.
If anyone does not know what this is -google "soapy massage" and see the very hot videos on the porn web site of the same name. You will ache for one too.
CBI've traveled to New Zealand, Australia, Germany, and so on. Great thing is that not only is Prostitution legal, but you can get the soapy massage over there too, from Auckland to Sydney to Berlin. But not here!
Odd how in EVERY MODERN country this is legal, licensed, taxed, and so on, but here in wonderful O-Town USA. We have the MBI to make sure to keep us morally straight!
Overseas, the establishments are nice, clean, regulated, the girls get medical benefits, check-ups, etc. The government collect taxes. Here, our 'correctness' makes sure that our law enforcement is free to focus on the 'happy endings' instead of the bank robbers, drug dealers, etc. Isn't our country great! We have the MBI!
BTW, for in Cocoa, the old 'boardroom' used to offer the soapy massage. Till the "morale police" busted it too.
Not My Job
12-16-08, 23:15
BTW, in Cocoa, the old 'boardroom' used to offer the soapy massage. Till the "morale police" busted it too.The Boardroom,
So many great memories! My first real "Body Massage" was there. And I loved the concept of an actual "line-up". Your choice! Used to drive out of my way whenever I was going to or from Jax to O-Town. Almost always worth the trip.
On a lesser note, anyone remember Xanadu in Melbourne? Not so clean, and much lower quality than the Boardroom. But still good in a pinch;.
As far as the moral police. "MBI, JSO, HCSO", etc. , please get out there and fight some REAL crime! I live near Jax, and it is now the murder capital of Florida. But where are they concentrating their efforts? AMPs, CL, etc.
My 2 Won,
NMJ
RogerDaRabbit
12-17-08, 12:51
I seen this girl. She was not my type. I like older gals. PLUS, you can tell she has fake tits, I hate that.
For those of you who were concerned about her website being down.
I noticed today that it is back up.
RogerDaRabbit
12-17-08, 15:53
Beth gave me the worst massage I ever had. Her friend lyn told me she works from her home and only see a few people.
Has anyone remained in contact with Beth, of "Body by Beth?"
She was the hottest therapist in Orlando.
I see online that she has renewed her license with the state, and I'm hoping to reconnect. She was magnificent!
Anybody out there still seeing her? If so, is she open for other former clients to get in touch?
I figured I would get rid of all the travel tension with a visit to one of the AMPs just north of O-town. Got the usual (outstanding) treatment (with out asking) from a very nice looking spinner type, left completely relaxed until I got home and read about the recent leo activity. I would give a little more info but I want to keep this one open.
Um I would really appreciate it if everyone would stop posting about me. This site is somehow linked to my website (which is why I took it down for a while) and is how I found what was being said. Here are a couple suggestions for you guys.
First. If you were to ever get an he from me, you totally screwed that one up, because I sure as hell don't think that is something you should share with people you don't know. Many of the posters on the forum are most likely LEO and I'm super glad my name was thrown out there. What happens between two people in a massage room, should stay there. Period. As a therapist, we respect your right to privacy and I don't go running around bragging about who my clients are, and believe me I could. But name dropping is huge negative, both ways.
Second. Just keep posting about the AMP's. Yes those places it is a sure thing, so stick with it. This crap is the reason my friend Becky at East-West got shut down. All because of TALK! That isn't fair to ruin someones life like that over your hobby. A 'good' therapist is someone you refer your friends too, not some stranger you don't know offline. Exchange numbers and meet up for lunch.
Third. Uh fyi, boobs are real. So is the rest of me.
So if anyone would like to schedule an appointment, its not hard to find me obviously. (joke) I really enjoy what I do. Please respect that, thanks.You Go Girl! Slap us around and put us in our place.
Very well said Tara. I agree 100%.
A little Respect and consideration for our therapists and what they do can go a long way.
I know I have mentioned it before and I will do so again.
I know that many of us sometimes feel the need to brag and tell the world about our conquest, but detailed reports is what gets the therapist in hot water and draws unwanted LEO attention to the establishments.
I for one am in agreement with Tara "What happens between two people in a massage room, should stay there. Period. "
I don't think it is a bad thing to share a good experiences about a location, but it is my opinion for those who feel the need to stroke their egos should share that the details and sensitive information via a PM when asked.
Just my 2 cents and advice on this issue. I for one may not post much about the good places I visit for this same reason but have shared the sensitive information with many via the PM.
Lets use the PM feature more and as a result hopefully there will be less complaints about Spa closures and busts in the future.
I am going 2 have 2 schedule a session with "Tara" since everyone is talking about her
Lets respect and treat our therapists right
Merry Christmas and Happy Holidays Stay Warm
DK
Um I would really appreciate it if everyone would stop posting about me. This site is somehow linked to my website (which is why I took it down for a while) and is how I found what was being said. Here are a couple suggestions for you guys.
First. If you were to ever get an he from me, you totally screwed that one up, because I sure as hell don't think that is something you should share with people you don't know. Many of the posters on the forum are most likely LEO and I'm super glad my name was thrown out there. What happens between two people in a massage room, should stay there. Period. As a therapist, we respect your right to privacy and I don't go running around bragging about who my clients are, and believe me I could. But name dropping is huge negative, both ways.
Second. Just keep posting about the AMP's. Yes those places it is a sure thing, so stick with it. This crap is the reason my friend Becky at East-West got shut down. All because of TALK! That isn't fair to ruin someones life like that over your hobby. A 'good' therapist is someone you refer your friends too, not some stranger you don't know offline. Exchange numbers and meet up for lunch.
Third. Uh fyi, boobs are real. So is the rest of me.
So if anyone would like to schedule an appointment, its not hard to find me obviously. (joke) I really enjoy what I do. Please respect that, thanks.
Folks I think there's a big difference between an AMP and a good license MT, Tara just so happens to be one. When we keep pushing the envelope we end up loosing big time to the good therapist out there. Keep the reports going about the rest of the places after all that's where the fun really is isn't it? I've seen Tara multiple times and she's as clean and legit as it can be. Forget about LEO or anything we don't just need to respect her because of them but because she deserves it.
Be cool guys
Exec Talent
12-18-08, 08:41
Um I would really appreciate it if everyone would stop posting about me. This site is somehow linked to my website (which is why I took it down for a while) and is how I found what was being said. Here are a couple suggestions for you guys.
First. If you were to ever get an he from me, you totally screwed that one up, because I sure as hell don't think that is something you should share with people you don't know. Many of the posters on the forum are most likely LEO and I'm super glad my name was thrown out there. What happens between two people in a massage room, should stay there. Period. As a therapist, we respect your right to privacy and I don't go running around bragging about who my clients are, and believe me I could. But name dropping is huge negative, both ways.
Second. Just keep posting about the AMP's. Yes those places it is a sure thing, so stick with it. This crap is the reason my friend Becky at East-West got shut down. All because of TALK! That isn't fair to ruin someones life like that over your hobby. A 'good' therapist is someone you refer your friends too, not some stranger you don't know offline. Exchange numbers and meet up for lunch.
Third. Uh fyi, boobs are real. So is the rest of me.
So if anyone would like to schedule an appointment, its not hard to find me obviously. (joke) I really enjoy what I do. Please respect that, thanks.
Got to love these women who come on here and tell it like it is. Thank you Tara Marie. Just added you to my must see list.
First. If you were to ever get an he from me, you totally screwed that one up, because I sure as hell don't think that is something you should share with people you don't know. Many of the posters on the forum are most likely LEO and I'm super glad my name was thrown out there. What happens between two people in a massage room, should stay there. Period. As a therapist, we respect your right to privacy and I don't go running around bragging about who my clients are, and believe me I could. But name dropping is huge negative, both ways.
Second. Just keep posting about the AMP's. Yes those places it is a sure thing, so stick with it. This crap is the reason my friend Becky at East-West got shut down. All because of TALK! That isn't fair to ruin someones life like that over your hobby. A 'good' therapist is someone you refer your friends too, not some stranger you don't know offline. Exchange numbers and meet up for lunch.English is not my first language, so please don't concentrate yourself in my writing.
Me as a licensed therapist totally agree with this girl, you guys talk to much, I already know what services some of my former and actual co-workers do and I know that maybe tomorrow they will know about me, because you guys post here the name of the place, the name of the therapist how much they charge, hr how much the tip was for that extra that all you know is not legal to do and it can cost the LMT her license.
It will be easy for the LEO to go the place, he already knows the name, and request that specific therapist and play dumb once inside the room and maybe if he gets lucky, he will arrest the therapist right there.
Have you ever took two minutes to think what will happen to those therapist after they loss their license, " MAYBE IN YOUR DREAMS" she will have no job, and probably she will loss her husband and maybe because what she did was not right or moral she will have to fight for the custody of her kids, and for sure she will have no enough money (because she is not working), to paid for bills and maybe she can loss her car and her house and her credit and the consequences can go on and on.
And although it's true that everybody must be responsible for what they do there is not need to talk to much and to provide so much information about what a therapist do once in the room with you guys. So when a therapist don't do a left you happy at the end you get frustrated and mad and don't tip although the massage was good, but what do you expect, we have to take care of ourselves.
Sincerely I came to this site almost every day to see if my name is out there or I must said "out here", my place of work have been already mentioned here and I truly hope that nobody from this forum happen to be my client one day, I mean I don't want none of you at least none of those who talk SO MUCH.
Oh and I am not an Asian woman, but please those woman need a break, please be nice.
Take It Deep
12-18-08, 11:40
Tara Marie,
Class, Character & Good Looks!
Deep
Karamelkitten
12-18-08, 12:31
Thanks for recent post. This forum does serve as a double edge sword. My name came up not too long ago and although I apperciate the good review I don't agree the specifics should not be divulge in the open forum.
Sponge Worthy
12-18-08, 17:34
The Boardroom,
So many great memories! My first real "Body Massage" was there. And I loved the concept of an actual "line-up". Your choice! Used to drive out of my way whenever I was going to or from Jax to O-Town. Almost always worth the trip.
On a lesser note, anyone remember Xanadu in Melbourne? Not so clean, and much lower quality than the Boardroom. But still good in a pinch;.
As far as the moral police. "MBI, JSO, HCSO", etc. , please get out there and fight some REAL crime! I live near Jax, and it is now the murder capital of Florida. But where are they concentrating their efforts? AMPs, CL, etc.
My 2 Won,
NMJ
Wow, now those were the days. The Boardroom was nice, but Xanadu was easy. It had that grotto room with the heart-shaped hot tub for a 1.5 hour session. You could sometimes find the same girls because they'd move from one place to another. There were a couple of Roman Spas or Roman Forum places back then, too. Roosters was a relative late-comer there. They did more than their counterparts here in Orlando/Altamonte, but not the best women.
Damn, I miss those days when you could just walk in a joint and pick who you were going to fuck. None of this massage bullshit even presumed, just get a girl and drill her. More often than not, they gave as good as they got.
Exec Talent
12-19-08, 00:30
Sponge Worthy -- I pretty much have had enough of your total disregard for women. Some of us here respect women and actually care about them. We do not provide graphic information mostly because that is not what gentlemen do.
Your comment:
None of this massage bullshit even presumed, just get a girl and drill her.
Pretty much says it all.
You are another poster who needs to be ignored. I hope others will join me in doing just that. When you no longer have an audience, maybe you will take the hint and spew your venom somewhere else.
VerySlowly
12-19-08, 01:21
If LE could just send an officer in and he could get a happy ending and then just arrest the girl or the Mamma-san all the MP's and Amps would be closed in one day. The Govt. can't commit a crime and then arrest the co-conspirator, if the LE were to ask for it then he is soliciting. If she agrees then she is prostituting. I get a kick out of all the disclaimers the escorts put in their ad's, it is self delusional, if they say the wrong words at the wrong time all the disclaimers in the world won't help them.
In the old "We knead you" in Caselberry they used to have copies of the Florida Prostitution statute mounted on the wall. I won't tell you how they closed them because the S.C.S.D. might have forgotten the technique-LOL.---VS
VerySlowly
12-19-08, 10:26
Too much eggnog? See nemodc's post. He got it right.
I don't want to get in a pissing contest with nemodc ,I perceive from his posts that he is a lawyer from Washington D.C. I presume. We had a difference of opinion a while back and he said(paraphrase) "that the police can entice you any way they want to". At that time I didn't respond to the post. I believe that the more serious the crime ,the higher burden of proof. Since much of the law is interpretation and determined by "community standards", prostitution in central Fl. at least is interpreted by this area's "States Attorney" enticement is not tolerated. You will never see a female undercover dressed in a sexy outfit working a trail sting--never. Or a male undercover LE buying a girl alcohol or cigarettes. So I'm just saying that we have differing opinions or interpretations, I suppose that is why we have appeals courts.
The laws are written differently for drugs, the court decisions are completely different. The felony statutes differ depending on the perceived menace to society as determined by the legislators and further defined and refined by various court decisions.
If I'm wrong ask yourself why all the MP's have been open for years, why doesn't LE just go in and when the masseuse touches his unit, just arrest her, after all he has already paid and paid masturbation is unlawful in Florida?
Ahh, but there is that small issue of complete nudity, you do not have to remove your under wear to get a fine massage now, do you? And if you do she does not have to manipulate your genitals, in fact that is unlawful. All this could be eliminated if we were not a conflicted and hypocritical society. But we are.
When an escort who offers her time for $250.00 an hour comes to the hotel why doesn't the cop just get undressed get in bed and when she joins him in bed just arrest her, after all there is obvious intent to commit a crime. Why go through all the word games, are the internet ad's in many cases not sufficient? I don't understand? Please explain it to me, is it freedom of speech?
Because the case law says he can't thats why? The case law is clear on this issue. In Sarasota the Sheriff tried to use ci's (Confidential informants) to hire an escort, have sexual contact with her and then testify, the judge ruled that in fact the CI while not a sworn officer was in fact in the employ of the Sheriffs office and as such represented the Sheriff's office and threw the case out.
We have hashed out the entrapment issue and entrapment is very hard to prove and we are talking about misdemeanor offenses here, a step above a traffic ticket in fact in some jurisdictions appearance tickets are issued for prostitution, it saves the "system" a lot of processing time and money, putting people in jail for this however temporary is ridiculous, in fact if the system is overloaded and you have no priors they will ROR you with no bail.
So where is the misinformation??
You guys can believe what you want to believe, I only know what has worked for me, my understanding from many conversations with CDA's over the years and living in many states. I also know there are lots of shades of grey in law, thus the various interpretations, if there was not the human need to manipulate and create, the 10 commandments would work just fine. Wouldn't they?
Except that conservatives believe in the old testament "An eye for an eye" and liberals believe in viewing things from the perspective of forgiveness and love and everyone in the middle jumps on some part of the train along the way depending on how their brain is wired.
I apologize to the board for jumping around and going off topic some but I'm a little perplexed, if it's so easy to eliminate vice,why is it still here? I'll answer my own question.Why.? Because it isn't easy, and the government knows that attempts to govern human behavior thru social engineering doesn't work as proven by Prohibition (Alcohol if invented now would be a class 2 controlled substance). Soooo they just try to keep it down to a dull roar,allow some pressure release for the masses and attempt to keep it from getting out of control.
If the legislators wanted to eliminate it they could make it a class 1 felony with mandatory inclusion on a sex offenders list. I doubt that there would be many lobbyist's being paid to fight it and the Christian right would be applauding. If they did there would be some famous names on the list and lots of judges and lawyers without a license.
If there is a lot of disagreement with this post please state your opinions, personally I want to hear them--Thanks, VS
So now we're responsible for HER decisions and the impact they have upon her career, marriage and debtors? Sorry, but I don't buy that at all. If you're concerned about the consequences of providing an illegal service, here's a thought: DON'T DO THE CRIME!
Accept some responsibility for your own actions and stop trying to blame us for wanting what we want. That's how you keep you license, your job, your husband, and ensure you can pay your bills.
Sorry, but you're wrong. When a therapist pretends to give me a blowjob when she's really just jerking me off, I think it's something that we need to share. If you can be duplicitous, why can't we be honest? [Note: Asahi still plays this trick, but you have to be really dumb to fall for it when her head is bobbing three feet above your waistline.]I wish that my English was better, so I can answer you like I feel I need, but anyway maybe its not worthy, so I will no post anything else in this subject.
Judging for your previous post you are far away to be what people call a nice or a good person, and I am almost sure that when the therapist or any other girl is working with you, she is looking at the clock and wishing the time go faster, "YUCK".
I am not from Irak where throwing shoes at people is a big offense, but that will be exactly the kind of treatment I wish I could give you.
OH and talking like kids TALK TO THE HAND
Bye and good luck being a jerk.
I wish that my English was better, so I can answer you like I feel I need, but anyway maybe its not worthy, so I will no post anything else in this subject.
Judging for your previous post you are far away to be what people call a nice or a good person, and I am almost sure that when the therapist or any other girl is working with you, she is looking at the clock and wishing the time go faster, "YUCK".
I am not from Irak where throwing shoes at people is a big offense, but that will be exactly the kind of treatment I wish I could give you.
OH and talking like kids TALK TO THE HAND
Bye and good luck being a jerk.An amazing array of different opinions. You know what, I think everyone has said something that makes sense but not anyone has said something that makes perfect sense. At the end of the day though, it's all opinions.
Personally, I very much enjoy a real massage but I also enjoy anything else that is on offer. I never push the point and am never rude or intimidating. My personal masseuse used to work in a MP and she has told me some of the conversations men have had with her. It's disgusting and makes me ashamed to be a man. I hope that most of the guys on here (there's not exactly thousands that post) do respect the girls but will take any extra services that are on offer with gratitude and will suitably reward the provider as they see fit. Where a LMT has made it absolutely clear what they are offering, then we as men should not push that point and go elsewhere if we want something different.
I have found what I consider to be good services and have reported them here as I thought that was the point of the forum. The posts were to help other guys make a decision as to whether it was the kind of establishment they wanted to go to.
I have been to places where all they want to do is the HJ and nothing else. That's NOT a good massage to my mind.
My therapist friend who I have now known for some years does everything for me in my home (so it's not illegal) and she does that because I was kind and considerate to her in her MP days.
I'm not really sure that by detailing our experiences that we are helping LEO. They can walk into these places just like us and get the lowdown.
If anyone commits a crime they know to be a crime, it's their risk, they know the rules. As long as they are not forced into it. It's their risk. Everytime you exceed the speed limit you risk a ticket. That's your risk, you know the rules.
Indian River
12-19-08, 19:22
I wish that my English was better, so I can answer you like I feel I need, but anyway maybe its not worthy, so I will no post anything else in this subject.
Judging for your previous post you are far away to be what people call a nice or a good person, and I am almost sure that when the therapist or any other girl is working with you, she is looking at the clock and wishing the time go faster, "YUCK".
I am not from Irak where throwing shoes at people is a big offense, but that will be exactly the kind of treatment I wish I could give you.
OH and talking like kids TALK TO THE HAND
Bye and good luck being a jerk.Well said my lady. Sorry that this board has come to this. I have said before, Ladies and Gentleman, it is time to act like adults and begin addressing the topics at hand and stop lambasting each other. Let us move on and stop all this bickering and accusing. The ladies of this profession deserve all the respect we can give them. I have seen some customers who in my estimation are not of the same class as the ladies that service them and I have also seen the opposite. Everyone is here to enjoy life and make a satisfactor living. The members who are consistently irate and spread hate, should get a life and enjoy what is left of it. When you are no longer with us, you will wish you could have that lady one more time.
Gentleman where are you?
You gotta love this forum and the excellent work Jackson does. Unlike the big doggie, the princess nework which are made up of advertisers, pimps and queens. When a man says a thing against a woman all the forum stands against him. How dare you and who in the hell disagrees with a woman. Women can say and do what they want and men have to submit. Guess what, this is not the big puppy, and if you are such a pussy queen this is not your place. See how the other forums turned into nothing. Love and respect women but do not worship their pussies. Next time hand them the money and leave. How dare you ask for service from a working woman.
Women are offering services. The difference between crack cocain and a hoe's crack. The first you use it once and the second she just wipes it off (that's if she does) and use it again. It is not like they are offering a product that has materials or gold in it and you can't lower the price than the price of gold. Unless some think they have gold. Well let me tell you; I have not found one natural pussy/ass made up of gold and if there is one I won't use it.
Stop worshiping pussies. They won't even respect you.
Worldsoffun
12-20-08, 21:29
Do any of you PM lovers really know whether a person here IS or IS NOT a LEO?
I laugh in the face of you asswipes who think you are SMARTER than LEO and then claim you're going to fool them by limiting your posts to Private Messages. My God, how dumb can a person get?
First of all, there are a number of mongers on the Forum who I KNOW are not LEO. We have exchanged information for quite a while and have referred each other to various providers. Smarter than Leo you say? I'm thinking that really isn't much of a challenge.
Second, I'm getting bored with Sponge (and only Sponge) working very hard to continue this conversation into perpituity. Doesn't seem to want to let it go. Not sure what his motivation is, but it's getting old for me especially since I am now an "asswipe" in his opinion. I don't lower myself to that level by calling names to brothers on the Forum and always repsect other opinions even if I don't agree with them. He can continue his rantings on his fragile little soap box and continue to demonstrate how protesting too much may actually reveal other motivations.
Be safe!
WOF
I was talking to a post-apocalyptic prophet last night. He’s a guy that makes a living telling you that you just got blown up, why you got blown up and who blew you up. Here’s what he tells me – six, seven months ago a new poster comes on board. His name is Gentleman 100. Right away he starts making a lot of posts, jacking up his numbers. This is happening right after the last establishment raids earlier this year and everybody is running around scared that all the establishments will be closed and the forum posters are to blame. Gentleman 100 comes on real smooth and says that nobody should be posting any real information, that LEO will use it to close down the rest of the establishments. He was posting so many times and people were confused what to do that his method was working. More people started posting the same message of fear and confusion, and it spread and communication about massages just about shut down.
The interesting thing about G100 was that he was always talking about legit massages, never about the real stuff and he kept preaching not to post anything real. My friend says that it was obvious to a person watching from the outside what he was doing. He was a mole and his goal was to shut down communication on the forum. Maybe he was LEO or maybe he was just a fanatic, but his method worked, this forum almost died from lack of action.
My friend says you got to know what is real and what’s not. Anybody can read this forum which means that LEO reads it. But, anybody driving by a Massage Establishment can tell at a glance or a peek inside what’s going on. Busting fun-loving establishments is probably the easiest thing to do for a lazy agency. The strange thing is, my friend says, that more aren’t busted if LEO is relying on posts to make their case. Read Dodger Bulldog’s excellent post in 2007 which is still the best:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=514821
Well, Gentleman 100’s not posting anymore, the cops made a bunch of punch-drunk busts, and the forum is tearing itself to pieces. So, my friend tells me, we got blown up. He says we got blown up because we don’t know what’s real and what isn’t real – Gentleman 100 wasn’t real, telling people not to communicate on a forum because that’ll make providers turn into convicts ain’t real. And who blew us up? We did. We blew ourselves up and we’re doing it every day with these ideas about not posting.
Sponge Worthy is preaching the religion of reality and that’s the only religion worth following. We are just a bunch of guys sharing our experiences, that’s all we are. And it’s fun.
(Next chapter: Executive Talent’s role in the apocalypse)
Ron
I was talking to a post-apocalyptic prophet last night. He’s a guy that makes a living telling you that you just got blown up, why you got blown up and who blew you up. Here’s what he tells me – six, seven months ago a new poster comes on board. His name is Gentleman 100. Right away he starts making a lot of posts, jacking up his numbers. This is happening right after the last establishment raids earlier this year and everybody is running around scared that all the establishments will be closed and the forum posters are to blame. Gentleman 100 comes on real smooth and says that nobody should be posting any real information, that LEO will use it to close down the rest of the establishments. He was posting so many times and people were confused what to do that his method was working. More people started posting the same message of fear and confusion, and it spread and communication about massages just about shut down.
The interesting thing about G100 was that he was always talking about legit massages, never about the real stuff and he kept preaching not to post anything real. My friend says that it was obvious to a person watching from the outside what he was doing. He was a mole and his goal was to shut down communication on the forum. Maybe he was LEO or maybe he was just a fanatic, but his method worked, this forum almost died from lack of action.
My friend says you got to know what is real and what’s not. Anybody can read this forum which means that LEO reads it. But, anybody driving by a Massage Establishment can tell at a glance or a peek inside what’s going on. Busting fun-loving establishments is probably the easiest thing to do for a lazy agency. The strange thing is, my friend says, that more aren’t busted if LEO is relying on posts to make their case. Read Dodger Bulldog’s excellent post in 2007 which is still the best:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=514821
Well, Gentleman 100’s not posting anymore, the cops made a bunch of punch-drunk busts, and the forum is tearing itself to pieces. So, my friend tells me, we got blown up. He says we got blown up because we don’t know what’s real and what isn’t real – Gentleman 100 wasn’t real, telling people not to communicate on a forum because that’ll make providers turn into convicts ain’t real. And who blew us up? We did. We blew ourselves up and we’re doing it every day with these ideas about not posting.
Sponge Worthy is preaching the religion of reality and that’s the only religion worth following. We are just a bunch of guys sharing our experiences, that’s all we are. And it’s fun.
(Next chapter: Executive Talent’s role in the apocalypse)
RonG100 did post about some massages that were not legit. I guess peeps can look back to confirm that.
Having read all this stuff my two cents is that posters should continue as we were. It's not going to make any difference if we post an indication of the type of massage we received on here or not.
If this board was closed down there are others. If they were all closed down, others would just open. Why don't we just carry on as we were but maybe not giving graphic detail about what went on?
If LEO want to check a place they can and will do anyway, irrespective of what is said on this board but, for the sake of the girls (and some kind of human decency) maybe we don't need to describe the experience in minutest detail.
Just my two cents and as this debate seems to have been going on for a while with a distinct lack of new reports, I for one do not feel the need to comment any more in the foreseeable future.
Some new reports would be good though and as I am not in Florida until next April I'm afraid they will not come from me!
Was out doing some late shopping a few days ago and I passed by OHT (place in Casselberry on 436 across from Dunkin) and noticed they were still open. I thought what they heck and went in.
It was getting close to closing time so I agreed to half hour for. 5. I'd been her a couple times before and both times I got the older lady that works there and been taken care of but this time I suprisingly got the young hotty.
She gave me a good firm massage and we chatted along the way. She was saying how it had been a long time since she had seen me. It took me a while to put it together but she use to work at Tokyo Spa in Longwood. She recognized me but I didn't recognize her, who would have thought it!
Any after some good work on my back I was really enjoying myself after the flip. My hands had green light to go whereever they wanted. Was enjoying the HJ when all of sudden she added a prostate massage. Now this is not my thing and I didn't ask for it but must admit that the combination of hf and prostate massage made them pop nearly instantaneously.
Tipped. 3
Good time will repeat and recommend to others.
Gentleman 100
12-21-08, 10:42
I was talking to a post-apocalyptic prophet last night. He’s a guy that makes a living telling you that you just got blown up, why you got blown up and who blew you up. Here’s what he tells me – six, seven months ago a new poster comes on board. His name is Gentleman 100. Right away he starts making a lot of posts, jacking up his numbers. This is happening right after the last establishment raids earlier this year and everybody is running around scared that all the establishments will be closed and the forum posters are to blame. Gentleman 100 comes on real smooth and says that nobody should be posting any real information, that LEO will use it to close down the rest of the establishments. He was posting so many times and people were confused what to do that his method was working. More people started posting the same message of fear and confusion, and it spread and communication about massages just about shut down.
The interesting thing about G100 was that he was always talking about legit massages, never about the real stuff and he kept preaching not to post anything real. My friend says that it was obvious to a person watching from the outside what he was doing. He was a mole and his goal was to shut down communication on the forum. Maybe he was LEO or maybe he was just a fanatic, but his method worked, this forum almost died from lack of action.
My friend says you got to know what is real and what’s not. Anybody can read this forum which means that LEO reads it. But, anybody driving by a Massage Establishment can tell at a glance or a peek inside what’s going on. Busting fun-loving establishments is probably the easiest thing to do for a lazy agency. The strange thing is, my friend says, that more aren’t busted if LEO is relying on posts to make their case. Read Dodger Bulldog’s excellent post in 2007 which is still the best:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=514821
Well, Gentleman 100’s not posting anymore, the cops made a bunch of punch-drunk busts, and the forum is tearing itself to pieces. So, my friend tells me, we got blown up. He says we got blown up because we don’t know what’s real and what isn’t real – Gentleman 100 wasn’t real, telling people not to communicate on a forum because that’ll make providers turn into convicts ain’t real. And who blew us up? We did. We blew ourselves up and we’re doing it every day with these ideas about not posting.
Sponge Worthy is preaching the religion of reality and that’s the only religion worth following. We are just a bunch of guys sharing our experiences, that’s all we are. And it’s fun.
(Next chapter: Executive Talent’s role in the apocalypse)
Ron
Conspiracy theories are everywhere: Who shot JFK? Area 51.
I do not subscribe to conspiracy theories. I report on my experiences. I have not posted recently about my visit to ToA last weekend, but it was the same, quality experience.
In my experience, posting details of a wonderful experience does more harm than good: what I get may not be what you get. It leads to an expectation that may not be fulfilled.
I do not post details anymore (in my earlier posts, like Lotus/Deva, I went into detail - I no longer go there because the service is not what I used to get). I report that I enjoyed an experience. Your skills at getting what you want will determine what you get from a lady: not what other hobbyists report.
But let me check to make sure that I am real --- yep, the package is there.
Let's get back to the purpose of the forum: exchange of information about MPs and getting pleasant extras.
Be safe
O Town Doug
12-21-08, 13:43
I have been attending various spa's in the Orlando area for a little over a year now still looking for the the one that I will make my regular place.
I saw an ad on CL for La Cabana and I must say the ads of the girls will really draw you in.
Their prices are a little high $.1 for an hr which they advertise as their "holiday rate" which I am hoping does not go up in Jan. I met one of the girls in the ad's her name was nikki and she was as cute in person as she was in the picture.
You have a choice of a massage on the bed or the table...I chose the bed and she started the massage. She gave a good massage 7/10 and had a great conversation which I enjoy during my sessions.
Had an exciting flip where I dreamed that she got nude and ended the massage on a happy note. I woke up shortly after and tipped her $.3
I def plan on attending again as the rest of the therapist look amazing.
They say they offer the body scrubs in the shower I have not experienced that yet but I plan to when I return.
My friend suggested this site to me as a way to gauge the amps around my area, I also travel a lot so its good to check out the city I am heading to.
Auntie Annie
12-22-08, 13:27
I recently TOFTT and went down there, since no one seemed to want to take the plunge. All I can tell you is that the massage sucked, but there were some things worth noting about the visit. I met with Ashley, who is very pierced and very hot. Great body on this one. She gave the massage in tight stretch pants and a tube top. The massage involved oils which were VERY scented, and she did not use any real pressure. As I stated earlier, the massage portion was horsey doo doo. However, unlike the previous poster, this placed seemed open for extras from the moment I walked through the door.
The flip involved some real fun, and if you have spoken to me before, I welcome your PM's. I left happy, for a good price, and at the end of the day, I now know what to expect in the future from the place. That said, I would not go back for the massage, and there are at least 5 places off the top of my head that are better. Classic example of a place that is not better than the massage competition, and for the money, you could get a lot more from a CL girl. Just my $. 02. PM me for more details if you would like.
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Greetings everyone,
I recently received the following email from "kittykitty2802@hotmail.com" regarding the above report.
please remove this, i was informed of this post by another customer. this is not that kind of place, this customer was simply angry that i turned him down when he propositioned me. we are not that type of place and are not permitted to do those sort of things. if management sees this, i will lose my job. please remove asap!Thanks,
Jackson
Gentleman 100
12-22-08, 20:31
IMHO, I think that Assa was raided because of its location: Tourist Central. Since we are a family tourist destination, MBI & Co. did not want that type of business near all of those quality locations:
1. Bill Wongs Barfeteria
2. Brazilian Electronics Ripoff Store
3. Etc.
Be safe.
Sponge Worthy
12-23-08, 00:42
I love the way Tara Marie says she's not here to judge anyone, and then proceeds to judge me. I never said a word about her. I never tried to connect with her. In addition to this, she sent me a profanity laced (and frequently misspelled) PM telling me much the same as she posted here.
That pretty much sums up the type of "lady" some of you are here to defend.
I love the way Tara Marie says she's not here to judge anyone, and then proceeds to judge me. I never said a word about her. I never tried to connect with her. In addition to this, she sent me a profanity laced (and frequently misspelled) PM telling me much the same as she posted here.
That pretty much sums up the type of "lady" some of you are here to defend.
SW, she's probably very intimidated by all that goes around here. I know her and I'm not saying she's a naive little girl or anything like that but let's just respect her wishes and leave her alone. She's a good therapist I know that for a fact. My friend I've never had any issues with you or anyone here, I don't judge you or anyone else... all I ask is that if a provider makes a request we honor it. Just be cool man. Peace brother!
Cool
Sponge Worthy
12-23-08, 11:13
SW, she's probably very intimidated by all that goes around here. I know her and I'm not saying she's a naive little girl or anything like that but let's just respect her wishes and leave her alone. She's a good therapist I know that for a fact. My friend I've never had any issues with you or anyone here, I don't judge you or anyone else... all I ask is that if a provider makes a request we honor it. Just be cool man. Peace brother!
Cool
You're preaching to the choir. I never bothered her. Never spoke to her. She just picked me and decided to unleash an unprovoked attack. It's my hope that she got it out of her system and leaves it alone from here on out.
Gentleman 100
12-24-08, 23:41
I would like to share a little secret about myself. I do not have a huge "package". I also do not drive a Ford F-350 pickup with 6 wheels in the back (to compensate for my lack of length and girth).
What I have is, a unit that gets the job done. It is not the size of the tool that is important, it is how you use it.
I am proud to say that I have attained the rank of Cocksman, Level 3, with Oak Clusters.
There is only 1 man who has attained a higher level of Cocksman, and he is married to a woman named Hillary (soon to be U.S. Secretary of State).
Let's all get back to the purpose at hand. Calling each other names? NO! The purpose is to report about our experiences at MPs and learn from our mistakes. When we waste time posting insults, the only winner is L/E.
Now everyone have a Merry Christmas, Happy Hannukah, Joyous Kwanzaa, etc.
To all the pretty girls out there: Husqvarna (the name I gave my unit: a Swedish power tool company) salutes you. We are coming to visit you soon, so get some rest and do your stretching exercises.
Be safe and be cool.
FloridaBum
12-25-08, 11:36
I noticed a sign go up for a new massage place in Kissimmee. It is on West Highway 192, in a new strip plaza next to Sams Club. It doesn't seem to be open yet.
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
JacksonI sure hope that post does the trick.
The new place in Kissimmee sounds interesting, I'd sure be one of the first to report had it opened a month ago.
If reports are good and it's there in May, you can be sure of a report from me.
Whiskeysours
12-26-08, 19:28
Stopped in at Avalon this week after a long hiatus. Saw Roseanna, older hispanic lady, who gave very nice touches on front and on flip. The menu was open, judging from the upsell, but frankly she didn't do it for me. On my way out, I noticed an attractive blond, who I will hopefully see on a future visit.
Shifting gears for a minute, I saw an older (45-ish) European therapist by the name of Oxana in her Alt Spgs home over the summer. Very clean, professional appearance and great technique. She ran a couple of ads on CL, but have not since the summer. I have not been able to track her down and was wondering if anyone has seen her recently.
Thanks
O Town Doug
12-26-08, 19:31
I am usually a fan of this particular AMP however I had what is prob the worst massage/rub ever this evening.
Let me start by saying that I am a frequent patron of this place. I may dabble at other shops but I usually go back and I always do a 1hr session. I get there and I pay the house fee and he brings me back to the room. I pass by an absolutley stunning younger attended smiled and said Hi and she acknowledged me.
I disrobe and lay on the table hoping she comes in. Today was not my day. An older moderatley attractive attendent comes in. Right away starts with the drape. I politley ask to take it off. She does and I get the most robotic massage ever. She is looking at the clock every 5 min and did not even perform my second most favorite part of the massage. The extreame light touch where all the teasing would usually be in my past dreams about this spot. We get to the end of the hour and is just like "ok" and walks out so I get dressed and left. No tip
I generally get good service here so this isn't a bash on the AMP but this particular attendent was miserable I wish I could understand her name but the accent was very thick.
Just Cruzin
12-28-08, 15:56
Sad to say, it sounds like I drew the same one last Tuesday. Short hair, late 30ies, nice body, little to no English. Her name sounds like Swichie. Said Tuesday was her first day. All the encouraging, didn't produce results. Not a bad massage if that is all you were expecting. No tip and no return for me.
Safe cruzin'
JC
I am usually a fan of this particular AMP however I had what is prob the worst massage/rub ever this evening.
Let me start by saying that I am a frequent patron of this place. I may dabble at other shops but I usually go back and I always do a 1hr session. I get there and I pay the house fee and he brings me back to the room. I pass by an absolutely stunning younger attended smiled and said Hi and she acknowledged me.
I disrobe and lay on the table hoping she comes in. Today was not my day. An older moderately attractive attendant comes in. Right away starts with the drape. I politely ask to take it off. She does and I get the most robotic massage ever. She is looking at the clock every 5 min and did not even perform my second most favorite part of the massage. The extreme light touch where all the teasing would usually be in my past dreams about this spot. We get to the end of the hour and is just like "ok" and walks out so I get dressed and left. No tip
I generally get good service here so this isn't a bash on the AMP but this particular attendant was miserable I wish I could understand her name but the accent was very thick.
O Town Doug
12-28-08, 17:32
Yeah that's her! I would suggest trying them again, like I said this was my first bad experience in quite a while going there.
Sad to say, it sounds like I drew the same one last Tuesday. Short hair, late 30ies, nice body, little to no English. Her name sounds like Swichie. Said Tuesday was her first day. All the encouraging, didn't produce results. Not a bad massage if that is all you were expecting. No tip and no return for me.
Safe cruzin'
JC
Exec Talent
12-28-08, 20:46
Sad to say, it sounds like I drew the same one last Tuesday. Short hair, late 30ies, nice body, little to no English. Her name sounds like Swichie. Said Tuesday was her first day. All the encouraging, didn't produce results. Not a bad massage if that is all you were expecting. No tip and no return for me.
Safe cruzin'
JC
Managers and business owners appreciate it when they are told someone in their employ is not meeting customer expectations. You would be doing IT a favor if you would give them a call. I know it is not the most comfortable situation, but when "stuck" with a therapist I knew would not be a good experience, I said sorry, I would like someone else.
Thanks for letting us know one to avoid.
Indian River
12-29-08, 17:18
I read an article recently about a bust in South Florida and Brevard County involving three AMPs. I seems from reading the articles that the LEOs had cameras in the AMPs. Anyone ever hear of that technique before and it so, is it legal and can they be doing that everywhere?
Sponge Worthy
12-31-08, 18:10
I read an article recently about a bust in South Florida and Brevard County involving three AMPs. I seems from reading the articles that the LEOs had cameras in the AMPs. Anyone ever hear of that technique before and it so, is it legal and can they be doing that everywhere?
Can you post a link to the articles? In order to get the cameras inside the AMP, they would either need permission from the owners or a very broadly-written warrant and then go in to covertly wire everything in place.
Sounds like a bit much for an AMP bust.
I read an article recently about a bust in South Florida and Brevard County involving three AMPs. I seems from reading the articles that the LEOs had cameras in the AMPs. Anyone ever hear of that technique before and it so, is it legal and can they be doing that everywhere?I knew a provider who was told this was happening a couple of months ago but she could not prove it. Scared her though...
Interesting to know where you got that info from? Not sure if it's legal but I am sure there are some on the forum who could comment.
Happy 2009 guys and lets hope it's better than 2008!
Indian River
12-31-08, 20:06
Can you post a link to the articles? In order to get the cameras inside the AMP, they would either need permission from the owners or a very broadly-written warrant and then go in to covertly wire everything in place.
Sounds like a bit much for an AMP bust.The article does not say that cameras were used but rather " other surveillance methods" were used. To me that means camera. Here is the link to the article.
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/dec/20/police-prostition-ring-busted/
Scary stuff:
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081231/BREAKINGNEWS/312310001&s=d&page=12#pluckcomments
I don't know if that means they were video-taped, but in my limited knowledge of the law, some type of evidence must have been produced to get warrants.
I read an article recently about a bust in South Florida and Brevard County involving three AMPs. I seems from reading the articles that the LEOs had cameras in the AMPs. Anyone ever hear of that technique before and it so, is it legal and can they be doing that everywhere?
Scary stuff:
http://www.floridatoday.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20081231/BREAKINGNEWS/312310001&s=d&page=12#pluckcomments
Crazy thing 13 pages of comments and 80 percent do not see anything wrong with this. The other 20 percent are just amazed at the age of the unfortunate.
Why is it the public understands what to consenting adults are, yet the government is unable to see the revenue that is available? This really is a big waste of the taxpayers money.
To Melbourne: Howard Reid, 88. If your member of this forum, I'm sorry for your public publication however your my hero, at 88 your still hitting pay dirt. As someone has stated in the comments I'm sure the women in your neighborhood are really giving you the looks today. Maybe this is a good sign you won't have to pay anymore.
The article does not say that cameras were used but rather " other surveillance methods" were used. To me that means camera. Here is the link to the article.
http://www.tcpalm.com/news/2008/dec/20/police-prostition-ring-busted/Thanks for that and interesting they said they wouldn't state what surveillence methods were used. Just scaremongering I guess.
I suppose there is a point that taxes are not being paid on the money that changes hands but that also applies to many, many other trades.
"The agencies dubbed the investigation as Operation Unhappy Ending"
Is that supposed to be funny?
I guess we just have to live with it, as has been the case for quite a while now. The whole thing will just be driven futher underground though and I'm not sure who will gain from that.
It just gets so hard sometimes.
(and on that note, let's have some reports.
A Russell5150
01-02-09, 14:59
Went to Asahi on Wednesday and had the most beautiful asian girl ever at a massage parlor. Her name was Summer and I couldn't believe she worked there. I'm used to some of them being pretty, but not as pretty as she was, and young too. Probably about 25. The massage itself was nothing special, more of a rub down, but still felt great. On the flip her top came off and she pulled her shorts down so I could see her ass. This girl had legs that felt like silk, I couldn't believe how smooth they were. Deff. Will return for some Summer lovin'.
PeterPiper52
01-02-09, 19:45
Thanks for that and interesting they said they wouldn't state what surveillence methods were used. Just scaremongering I guess.
I suppose there is a point that taxes are not being paid on the money that changes hands but that also applies to many, many other trades.
"The agencies dubbed the investigation as Operation Unhappy Ending"
Is that supposed to be funny?
I guess we just have to live with it, as has been the case for quite a while now. The whole thing will just be driven futher underground though and I'm not sure who will gain from that.
It just gets so hard sometimes.
(and on that note, let's have some reports.I want to see how they're going to prove that a customer got more than a massage. Unless they actually saw the act, then it's "he said, she said". If the state is going to try and prosecute each and every named patron, then I don't want to hear Chaingang Charlie bitching about the state being broke.
Worldsoffun
01-02-09, 21:49
I want to see how they're going to prove that a customer got more than a massage. Unless they actually saw the act, then it's "he said, she said". If the state is going to try and prosecute each and every named patron, then I don't want to hear Chaingang Charlie bitching about the state being broke.
I think Leo is less concerned about the prosecution of the mongers and is just pleased to have their names, ages and addresses plastered all over the news media. I'm guessing several are in awkward positions and could even lose their jobs over being arrested. Remember that Florida is a "right to work state" and an employer can certainly use the arrest as an excuse to terminate.
WOF
Exec Talent
01-02-09, 23:33
I think Leo is less concerned about the prosecution of the mongers and is just pleased to have their names, ages and addresses plastered all over the news media. I'm guessing several are in awkward positions and could even lose their jobs over being arrested. Remember that Florida is a "right to work state" and an employer can certainly use the arrest as an excuse to terminate.
WOF
And, don't forget about the Missus or Significant Other. It is all Gestapo tactics meant to intimidate.
Some of us who travel have the pleasure of meeting and respecting real police. One day we actually might have a few in Florida.
J Melbourne27
01-03-09, 06:48
The article states, "...many of the men who admitted to or were seen having sexual acts in the parlors..."
It says they were SEEN having sexual acts.
It could be a new type of infrared camera or an actual hidden camera placed with one of those new 'secret' warrants that Bush authorized under the Heinous Patriot Act, an act that puts the American populous under more scrutiny than the terrorists.
I think Leo is less concerned about the prosecution of the mongers and is just pleased to have their names, ages and addresses plastered all over the news media. I'm guessing several are in awkward positions and could even lose their jobs over being arrested. Remember that Florida is a "right to work state" and an employer can certainly use the arrest as an excuse to terminate.
WOF
The article states, "...many of the men who admitted to or were seen having sexual acts in the parlors..."
It says they were SEEN having sexual acts.
It could be a new type of infrared camera or an actual hidden camera placed with one of those new 'secret' warrants that Bush authorized under the Heinous Patriot Act, an act that puts the American populous under more scrutiny than the terrorists.And maybe we can't always believe what we read? Just more scaremongering maybe?
Who knows for sure but I say we stay as we were. I bet it's just a little flurry of activity. It will all go away again soon and they'll have something different to worry about. Keep on trucking.
Sponge Worthy
01-03-09, 18:21
The article states, "...many of the men who admitted to or were seen having sexual acts in the parlors..."
It says they were SEEN having sexual acts.
It could be a new type of infrared camera or an actual hidden camera placed with one of those new 'secret' warrants that Bush authorized under the Heinous Patriot Act, an act that puts the American populous under more scrutiny than the terrorists.
"Sex acts." Isn't that such a wonderful, yet scary, phrase to use? If the girl bumps your nuts during a table shower, it could be a sex act. The phrase makes it seem that everyone who goes in there is getting some pussy
I WISH!
There's a difference between the average person's concept of sex and what legally constitutes a sex act or prostitution. Hell, even Bill Clinton was convinced he didn't have sex. If he can get a blowjob and it's not sex, why can't we get a hand job and be safe from unscrupulous LEOs and newspapers who use intimidation and scare tactics?
Jesus. H. Christ, it's a room without windows. Is that what makes it so scary to people; the fact that they can't see what we're doing, so it must be something horrid and vile? Maybe some AMPs need to have an Open House day or something to get rid of the myth of the unknown.
True Critic69
01-04-09, 12:23
I have found some old postings about this place and the most recent was in Nov 2008.
Has anyone gone there recently? I see they are advertising again.
I heard at one point yrs ago it was the place to go but then changed ownership and it hasnt gotten any good reviews.
Let me know
True Critic69
01-04-09, 13:25
Found another one guys....has anyone visted her
http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/977441978.html
Thanx
I have found some old postings about this place and the most recent was in Nov 2008.
Has anyone gone there recently? I see they are advertising again.
I heard at one point yrs ago it was the place to go but then changed ownership and it hasnt gotten any good reviews.
Let me knowNo personal experience but I have seen a review on another site that was good.
PM me if you want and I'll give you the detail.
Visited several of my fav Orlando AMPs. The mamasans and gals all seemed quie festive and anxious to make some $ for their holiday shopping. Most of the ladies I spent time with were in their late 30's, in good shape, and were open to suggestions. Not sure what all the buzz has been about on the board lately but good service is to be had, even some items not typically on the menu, after all they still have bills to pay and the economy is likely hitting them hard as well. Be smart and treat the ladies well.
Enjoy,
Guy
Sponge Worthy
01-04-09, 20:28
I'm glad you had fun. Do you at least want to mention which AMPs you hit that showed you a good time?
True Critic69
01-05-09, 02:07
Hey fellas
Dreamt I went to OHT today on a recommendation from one of the members here......first time there and have to say I had a great experience.
Went for the half hour and the gsl i got was a little spinner.....did the body shampoo and off to the room for the massage......she was excellent and very playful. Not shy to pay attention to all parts.
On the flip off went her top and her hands were great!
Left her a .3 tip
Will definitely dream again
It is highly classified. To tell you I have to ... you :). MP's are not for discussion (Sarcasm). What happens in MP's stays in MP's!
I'm glad you had fun. Do you at least want to mention which AMPs you hit that showed you a good time?
Happy New Year Guys! Hope the new year brought you the Holiday Cheers!
Had a great time over the holidays. Decided to treat and pamper myself to a 12 real days of christmas. So I made a list of the best places I visited durning the year and visited or scheduled sessions with my ATF therepists I got the best service from durning the year. This is the first time I do something like this, I usually go once a week for a massage but never 12 days in a row but I must say I had a blast not to mention I felt like I was floating through the holidays.
I have to agree with Guy Nuoir. The therepists were all indeed in a Holiday Cheer Mode or working for a better tip for holiday shopping. Because I got the usual great service from the places I visited and some added extra Holiday Cheer!
WOW! Even the Legit places I visited were great and surprising to me the terepists offered menu items which normally were not available durning the times I visited durning the year. But I went for it. And left happy and satisfied from every place I visited.
I must say I don't know if it was the Holiday Spirit or that they are feeling the crunch of the economy. Which opened up the menus. But what ever it was I hope it carries over into 2009!
Hope You guys had as much fun as I did over the Holidays. I going to have to try this again soon,
Have a Happy and Properous New Year to All!
DK
Sponge Worthy
01-05-09, 11:08
Thanks for the completely useless post devoid of any information to help any other member of this forum. I'm glad it made you feel good, though.
TwistedBrother
01-05-09, 12:05
Thanks for the completely useless post devoid of any information to help any other member of this forum. I'm glad it made you feel good, though.
Yeah, geez, tell us where you went and who you saw so we can get something out of it, too.
Jack Me Baby
01-06-09, 00:08
Hey fellas
Dreamt I went to OHT today on a recommendation from one of the members here......first time there and have to say I had a great experience.
Went for the half hour and the gsl i got was a little spinner.....did the body shampoo and off to the room for the massage......she was excellent and very playful. Not shy to pay attention to all parts.
On the flip off went her top and her hands were great!
Left her a .3 tip
Will definitely dream againShe was Candi from Tokyo Spa.
BBBJ my friend , BBBJ!
Otown Elysian
01-06-09, 16:57
Lucia works out of Avarta spa near the Fashion Sq. She does an excellent LEGIT massage and I got no feeling that there would be any xtras whatsoever. If you are looking for a great massage though she is definitely worth it.
Thanks for the completely useless post devoid of any information to help any other member of this forum. I'm glad it made you feel good, though.Hey Fellas,
Just because you don't agree with the content of a report. Does not mean it is useless. What may be perceived useless to you is of great value to others.
Forgive me for being so naive. But what I was simply trying 2 state with my report "that despite all that has been going on with all the Busts and the rest of the negative going around things are still normal out there! "
Sorry I just do not see what is the value is added to my report if I added additional useless data like. "At ABC spa I got a BJ from? , at DEF spa I got a nude mutual touch massage from? , at GHI spa I got a BBBJ from? Oh and BTW she also had DATY option available on her menu".
My report stated "I had Fun". "I left Happy". "I left satisfied" "the therapists offered menu items which normally were not available during the year".common guys. Don't tell me that’s not enough detail.
I think my report was pretty complete. I omitted the gruesome details cause I did not see the value. I omitted the establishment and therapists names cause it was not important since the point I was trying to get across was that "all is pretty normal out there and the bad economy was working in our favor. " It was also done out of "Respect" for some of my therapists who personally asked me to keep their names out of this board. Sorry fellas I think I am better served honoring a simple request.
An addition I frequent these places quite often during the year and obviously don't want to add additional heat to the establishments and therapists that are already on the edge with details that will do more harm than good. Plus details probably could have been obtained through a simply PM if a person really needed it. I want to keep these places open for business in 2009!
It's been said over and over again that just because I got certain services does not mean anybody else in going to get the same treatment or services. YMMV at many of the establishments.
Hey Guys even though the Holiday Season is officially over there is still a lot of "Holiday Cheer" out there to be had. "Seek And You Shall Find. "
Be Safe!
DK
Good report. Thanks.I am glad it was helpful and that you appreciated its value!
DK
She was Candi from Tokyo Spa.
BBBJ my friend , BBBJ!What is the does drawing unnecessary attention to the fact that Candi from Tokyo Spa gives a BBBJ. It’s common knowledge!
The only thing I see in this report brings is negative. Bad News is the result this type of report will yield in the long run.
Other than bringing heat and unwanted attention LEO to the establishment and therapist. I just don't see it. But to each its own.
Who knows we will probably be reading about Tokyo Spa Bust in the near future!
I think we are a lot smarted than this!
DK
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Hi guys,
Just to put this in perspective:
1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.
2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely outside the reach of the USa legal system.
Thanks,
Jackson
Otownstamina
01-07-09, 09:43
Lucia works out of Avarta spa near the Fashion Sq. She does an excellent LEGIT massage and I got no feeling that there would be any xtras whatsoever. If you are looking for a great massage though she is definitely worth it.I second that. I've received from her and Fiona which works out of the same office. Nice massages indeed.
Sponge Worthy
01-07-09, 14:26
What is the does drawing unnecessary attention to the fact that Candi from Tokyo Spa gives a BBBJ. It’s common knowledge!
The only thing I see in this report brings is negative. Bad News is the result this type of report will yield in the long run.
Other than bringing heat and unwanted attention LEO to the establishment and therapist. I just don't see it. But to each its own.
Who knows we will probably be reading about Tokyo Spa Bust in the near future!
I think we are a lot smarted than this!
DKIf you thought were are a lot "smarted" than this, then perhaps you're not as smart as you thought.
Personally, I found that information MUCH more useful than your previous post. I haven't been to Tokyo for a long time and never got anything more than the standard rub & tug there. That post gives me hope! There are blowjobs in this town.
Why do you assume that it's common knowledge when you don't report on anything that happens, or even where it happens, in your own posts?
You've made your case clear. Using the forum as intended brings bad consequences. If that's your opinion, what's the point of you making any public posts at all? Your previous report didn't help anyone. You're bad-mouthing someone who was helpful. You obviously think that using a Private Message is somehow going to prevent useful information from getting to the police.
Overall, I'm just wondering what agenda you're running here. I presume that most of us actually want to know where to find a blowjob, rather than just smugly posting notes like "I had a good time!" without sharing anything helpful.
Sponge Worthy
01-07-09, 14:28
My report stated "I had Fun". "I left Happy". "I left satisfied" "the therapists offered menu items which normally were not available during the year".common guys. Don't tell me that’s not enough detail.WHERE? What use is your comment of "I had fun" or "I left happy" if you don't mention WHERE. Other than the assumption that you visited some place in the Orlando area, where is any value in your report?
The fact that you fail to see value in more detailed reports just goes to illustrate your paranoia, not to the value of those reports.
If you thought were are a lot "smarted" than this, then perhaps you're not as smart as you thought.
Personally, I found that information MUCH more useful than your previous post. I haven't been to Tokyo for a long time and never got anything more than the standard rub & tug there. That post gives me hope! There are blowjobs in this town.
Why do you assume that it's common knowledge when you don't report on anything that happens, or even where it happens, in your own posts?
You've made your case clear. Using the forum as intended brings bad consequences. If that's your opinion, what's the point of you making any public posts at all? Your previous report didn't help anyone. You're bad-mouthing someone who was helpful. You obviously think that using a Private Message is somehow going to prevent useful information from getting to the police.
Overall, I'm just wondering what agenda you're running here. I presume that most of us actually want to know where to find a blowjob, rather than just smugly posting notes like "I had a good time!" without sharing anything helpful.Correction Common Knowledge to those I have shared the info with via the PM. It is OK if my report was not helpful to you. But it was to many. Who by the were not to lazy and asked via a PM and information was provided.
I never said private messages is s somehow going to prevent useful information from getting to the police. But it helps.
But what the Hell if it was a BJ you wanted all you had to do is go down and take a walk on OBT and pick up a SW. Now that's common knowledge!
I second that. I've received from her and Fiona which works out of the same office. Nice massages indeed.I've seen Fiona 3 times. She is pleasant and professional and competent enough to have relieved me of a sharp pain that I had in my back for about 4 months.
Exec Talent
01-08-09, 13:33
I get them all the time. I respond to some from people I recognize. Others, who obviously are LE I tell to go fuck themsleves (in my usual nice way of course).
Most of us, unlike LE, are smart enough to know with whom we should engage in private messaging. In fact, members with whom I feel a certain comfort level, I give my super top secret e-mail address.
RogerDaRabbit
01-08-09, 16:31
My wife knows I love massages, well she doesn't know everything. I received a xmas gift certificate for a massage from her. Oh boy, I thought! My wife sets the appointment up. So I go to the therapist for the massage. As I am driving I am all excited, I can't wait. I get to this location in orlando, I walk in, and its a dude! Needless to say, what the heck! So I get the back rub anyway, what the fuck my back was hurting me that day. This guy offers me a blow job. I wish I could have seen the look on my face! I will find away to get even with that women.
Sponge Worthy
01-08-09, 17:13
I get them all the time. I respond to some from people I recognize. Others, who obviously are LE I tell to go fuck themsleves (in my usual nice way of course).
Most of us, unlike LE, are smart enough to know with whom we should engage in private messaging. In fact, members with whom I feel a certain comfort level, I give my super top secret e-mail address.
Good to know we have a mind reader on the forum.
Am heading to Orlando in the next few weeks. Was hoping to hit a parlor while there. Needs to be a quick stop while at the store.
Based on all the bantering here it is really going to be hit and miss. Wish it was more like Warren Ohio. Always good times.
Hopefully will find something. Will let you know if lucky.
Goob
Thanks Jackson for all and specially for your prompt response and putting things in perspective.
Hopefully everyone can read this well:
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Hi guys,
Just to put this in perspective:
1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.
2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely outside the reach of the USa legal system.
Thanks,
Jackson
Correction Common Knowledge to those I have shared the info with via the PM. It is OK if my report was not helpful to you. But it was to many. Who by the were not to lazy and asked via a PM and information was provided.
I never said private messages is s somehow going to prevent useful information from getting to the police. But it helps.
But what the Hell if it was a BJ you wanted all you had to do is go down and take a walk on OBT and pick up a SW. Now that's common knowledge!Are you two going to start pulling each others hair?
I get them all the time. I respond to some from people I recognize. Others, who obviously are LE I tell to go fuck themsleves (in my usual nice way of course).
Most of us, unlike LE, are smart enough to know with whom we should engage in private messaging. In fact, members with whom I feel a certain comfort level, I give my super top secret e-mail address.Now This is Good Sound Advice!! Nice to know there are people on this forum who actually know what they are talking about. While others just pretend!
Is Tokyo Spa in Longwood or Orlando? Trying to find it for an upcoming visit, and Longwood is all I'm seeing.
Otownstamina
01-09-09, 02:41
I've seen Fiona 3 times. She is pleasant and professional and competent enough to have relieved me of a sharp pain that I had in my back for about 4 months.I've also seen Laura which works out of a massage spot by the 417. She is cuban and provides a nice, sensual massage. NOT EROTIC (from what I nkow). So if you're looking for a good swedish massage, check her out. She advertises on CL.
Exec Talent
01-09-09, 03:38
My wife knows I love massages, well she doesn't know everything. I received a xmas gift certificate for a massage from her. Oh boy, I thought! My wife sets the appointment up. So I go to the therapist for the massage. As I am driving I am all excited, I can't wait. I get to this location in orlando, I walk in, and its a dude! Needless to say, what the heck! So I get the back rub anyway, what the fuck my back was hurting me that day. This guy offers me a blow job. I wish I could have seen the look on my face! I will find away to get even with that women.
Can you tell us about the flip, some of the guys here will think your post is worthless unless you provide all the details on the flip!
Good one to lighten things up. Thanks!
My wife knows I love massages, well she doesn't know everything. I received a xmas gift certificate for a massage from her. Oh boy, I thought! My wife sets the appointment up. So I go to the therapist for the massage. As I am driving I am all excited, I can't wait. I get to this location in orlando, I walk in, and its a dude! Needless to say, what the heck! So I get the back rub anyway, what the fuck my back was hurting me that day. This guy offers me a blow job. I wish I could have seen the look on my face! I will find away to get even with that women.1. I have never had a massage from a guy because of that very thing. My wife knows I go for massages too and she always said I shiould see a man and I was just being stupid thinking they might "try something. " Now I know all my fears have been proven correct. I think I might have thrown up so the guy might have needed a hot towel to clean up.
2. Nice reassuring comments from Jackson. Thanks.
3. Now all we have to do is stop the infighting and get on with the job (pun intended).
Take it easy guys and be safe!
Taster Too
01-09-09, 11:58
thanks jackson for all and specially for your prompt response and putting things in perspective.
hopefully everyone can read this well:
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hi guys,
4. the police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in montreal, canada, safely outside the reach of the usa legal system.
thanks,
jacksonhey most anything is legal in canada as long as it isn't in public or ****. that's why they could care less about what's on a computer.
canada seems much safer- criagslist actually is quite useful. as long as she's not ****, she can come for a visit!
massage parlors include a he without upcharge- it's a part of the service!
happy hunting! appreciate your website.
RogerDaRabbit
01-09-09, 13:46
I am sure the guys here will understand if I just forget this experience. I am still having nightmares about it. LOL
Can you tell us about the flip, some of the guys here will think your post is worthless unless you provide all the details on the flip!
Good one to lighten things up. Thanks!
Did they fire the guy? Or Is he suspended? It grew to my attention that the MP in question from the other post gave a raise to Candi for the BBBJ. That the owners even wanted her exclusively for them. They will also hire more of the same type and quality.
So Jack Me Baby more.
She was Candi from Tokyo Spa.
BBBJ my friend , BBBJ!
My wife knows I love massages, well she doesn't know everything. I received a xmas gift certificate for a massage from her. Oh boy, I thought! My wife sets the appointment up. So I go to the therapist for the massage. As I am driving I am all excited, I can't wait. I get to this location in orlando, I walk in, and its a dude! Needless to say, what the heck! So I get the back rub anyway, what the fuck my back was hurting me that day. This guy offers me a blow job. I wish I could have seen the look on my face! I will find away to get even with that women.
A Russell5150
01-10-09, 12:16
Is Candi back at Tokyo? And is it the same Candi that was there about 2 years ago. She was my favorite, but left on "Vacation" was what they told me, and I never saw here again.
Gentleman 100
01-10-09, 19:20
I stopped by the new US-192 (new, small strip mall in front of Sam's Club) place. No tenants yet, but the windows of the shop are tinted darkly. No phone numbers. It looks like there is a construction permit on the front door. My guess is that it will open within a few months.
We shall see. Be safe.
Am just visiting for a few days. Good time was had a ToA. While it wasn't as thorough as providers back in Ohio left happy. Only negative was that time was cut a little short. 50 minutes as a lot of people came in when there.
Be safe,
Goob
Auntie Annie
01-12-09, 10:46
My wife knows I love massages, well she doesn't know everything. I received a xmas gift certificate for a massage from her. Oh boy, I thought! My wife sets the appointment up. So I go to the therapist for the massage. As I am driving I am all excited, I can't wait. I get to this location in orlando, I walk in, and its a dude! Needless to say, what the heck! So I get the back rub anyway, what the fuck my back was hurting me that day. This guy offers me a blow job. I wish I could have seen the look on my face! I will find away to get even with that women.So, how was the blow job?
LOL! Great post! Made me laugh out loud!
Overthepond13
01-12-09, 20:54
As much as I've enjoyed my recent AMP experiences (happy times at AAA and not so happy at Angel Therapy in Jacks), fear of ending up on the evening news is holding me back. I realize you'd have to be pretty unlucky for that to happen, but do you think if you're lying there enjoying a rubdown that they're going to take you downtown, or are they going to tell you to clear off? Seems like it's only staff that end up getting in the hot water?
I personally am tired of wasting my time reading all the fighting going on. I have a suggestion that might be helpful to all AMP patrons. The quality of many of the therapists in Orlando is poor. I suggest posting the name of the massage parlor, the name of the therapist, and a description of their age, height, weight, cup size, hair length, etc. NO INFO on the extras available!
That will allow patrons to try someone that meets their personal preference. Patrons can learn quickly enough what extras are available at a particular location, if that is what they are interested in.
The important thing is that this MIGHT cause the quality of the providers to improve, as patrons visit the locations with the positive posts. End result. Younger, cuter therapists. Worth a try?
I personally am tired of wasting my time reading all the fighting going on. I have a suggestion that might be helpful to all AMP patrons. The quality of many of the therapists in Orlando is poor. I suggest posting the name of the massage parlor, the name of the therapist, and a description of their age, height, weight, cup size, hair length, etc. NO INFO on the extras available!
That will allow patrons to try someone that meets their personal preference. Patrons can learn quickly enough what extras are available at a particular location, if that is what they are interested in.
The important thing is that this MIGHT cause the quality of the providers to improve, as patrons visit the locations with the positive posts. End result. Younger, cuter therapists. Worth a try?I guess the problem with that is how do you differentiate between the poor, bad, very bad and excellent? I thought the purpose of the reports was to give readers an idea of what may be on offer and whether it was worth it. Just reporting what you are suggesting would not achieve that (I don't think) and patrons may find they waste their time and money. The forum posts (if reliable) should give a better idea of the posters point of view (albeit subjective) of the place.
I'm not trying to be negative, I'm just not sure about the value.
Indian River
01-13-09, 13:51
Sounds like a good idea to me. The way it is now, the board is not that informative anymore. Just read it now to see who is complaining. There is no longer any good info on this board.
Is Candi back at Tokyo? And is it the same Candi that was there about 2 years ago. She was my favorite, but left on "Vacation" was what they told me, and I never saw here again.
The Candi from Tokyo is at Oriental Healing Therapy in Indian Hills Plaza on 436, just north of Red Bug. She's still rough, playful, and likes to tease. The posts down below are the first I heard of anything more than a HE by Candi. Guess someone's luck is better than mine and can hold off longer!
Enjoy,
Guy
I usually spend most of my time in the Jacksonville area but I was in Kissimee and Visited ToA. Great standard service from Mimi, a 30-40 something asian with broken English. Medium strength massage that ranks up there with the best full body massage I've had. I was happy when I left.
Sponge Worthy
01-13-09, 15:12
The posts down below are the first I heard of anything more than a HE by Candi. Guess someone's luck is better than mine and can hold off longer!
Don't you know? It's all in the PMs, because that's how they keep the fuzz at bay.
Sponge Worthy
01-13-09, 15:19
I suggest posting the name of the massage parlor, the name of the therapist, and a description of their age, height, weight, cup size, hair length, etc. NO INFO on the extras available!
While I appreciate your intent, I don't think it's really a viable solution. It's the USASexGuide Forum. Failing to discuss extras (sex) kind of goes against the intent, as I understand it. It seems that a lot of people want to reshape this tool to duck and dodge the very thing that brought us here.
There are a lot of very attractive LMTs who have no intention of providing extras. If we use your format, we'll have a lot of guys hoping for something that's never going to happen. In my opinion, that's not valuable information.
That's the road to expensive frustration. I would rather know what to expect than shoot the dice at $80/hr plus tip.
FloridaBum
01-13-09, 15:40
There is a phone number on the main sign outside.
Not the sign on the building, but the marquee by the road/entrance.
I stopped by the new US-192 (new, small strip mall in front of Sam's Club) place. No tenants yet, but the windows of the shop are tinted darkly. No phone numbers. It looks like there is a construction permit on the front door. My guess is that it will open within a few months.
We shall see. Be safe.
FloridaBum
01-13-09, 15:44
Have seen her a few times too and have never had a hint of extras.
She uses a very small towel to cover, and one time my packages started protuding out. She discreetly covered it again and said not to worry, that massage has a lot of contact, and it is human nature to get aroused, and left it at that. She then proceeded to a very legit massage.
Lucia works out of Avarta spa near the Fashion Sq. She does an excellent LEGIT massage and I got no feeling that there would be any xtras whatsoever. If you are looking for a great massage though she is definitely worth it.
FloridaBum
01-13-09, 15:48
I have seen her. She posts under several names. Malayka, Nenah, Angel, etc.
Don't be fooled by the erotic pictures on her website page. She does a lousy massage and ends unenthusiastically with a glove. Will not repeat.
Found another one guys....has anyone visted her
http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/977441978.html
Thanx
I personally am tired of wasting my time reading all the fighting going on. I have a suggestion that might be helpful to all AMP patrons. The quality of many of the therapists in Orlando is poor. I suggest posting the name of the massage parlor, the name of the therapist, and a description of their age, height, weight, cup size, hair length, etc. NO INFO on the extras available!
That will allow patrons to try someone that meets their personal preference. Patrons can learn quickly enough what extras are available at a particular location, if that is what they are interested in.
The important thing is that this MIGHT cause the quality of the providers to improve, as patrons visit the locations with the positive posts. End result. Younger, cuter therapists. Worth a try?I personally think you have a good intention but this may not be a real viable solution mainly because as may have already noticed there are self proclaimed "GODS" on this forum who will not agree with your idea. And if it is not to their liking they will shoot your idea down with no mercy. I can see where you are coming from and appreaciate your contribution.
Back to the drawing board!
DK
True Critic69
01-13-09, 23:07
I have seen her. She posts under several names. Malayka, Nenah, Angel, etc.
Don't be fooled by the erotic pictures on her website page. She does a lousy massage and ends unenthusiastically with a glove. Will not repeat.
Hey Solo
Thanx for the insight....I was planning on seeing her but now I wont
Thanx again
Moto Monger
01-14-09, 00:51
Did anyone ever see a Lucia who used too practice, I mean like 7 or so years ago, on Turkey Lake Road, just off Sand Lake in the Golds Gym/Kmart plaza? She was, too the best of my short term memory, an excellent service provider. It was a nail spa or something but she had a massage room in back PM me or please feel free to post if she is still around and I am missing her. She is not the older lady who gloves it or the one mentioned in these most recent posts. While I have you thinking, has anyone ever tried that Alpha Rose who posts on CL? I did a search and didnt come up with any results.
Thanks,
MM
The Best Nap
01-14-09, 01:16
I have seen her. She posts under several names. Malayka, Nenah, Angel, etc.
Don't be fooled by the erotic pictures on her website page. She does a lousy massage and ends unenthusiastically with a glove. Will not repeat.
I too want to say thank. She was on my list to see when I got the opportunity.
Exec Talent
01-14-09, 04:31
I have seen her. She posts under several names. Malayka, Nenah, Angel, etc.
Don't be fooled by the erotic pictures on her website page. She does a lousy massage and ends unenthusiastically with a glove. Will not repeat.
Two posters found this not so graphic information helpful.
If someone gives a "lousy massage" why bother?
Graphic reviews help no one except the fragile egos of guys who feel the need to brag about their "conquests" at AMPs. Grow up already! I think some of you are in your second childhoods.
If life has come down to some 50 year-old, out of shape Asian woman yanking your crank, then you got more problems than can be dealt with here.
Let's focus on who provides great legitimate massages and everything else will fall into place.
True Critic69
01-14-09, 09:13
Two posters found this not so graphic information helpful.
If someone gives a "lousy massage" why bother?
Graphic reviews help no one except the fragile egos of guys who feel the need to brag about their "conquests" at AMPs. Grow up already! I think some of you are in your second childhoods.
If life has come down to some 50 year-old, out of shape Asian woman yanking your crank, then you got more problems than can be dealt with here.
Let's focus on who provides great legitimate massages and everything else will fall into place.
I have to disagree.......this is not a AMP....but a private individual who's advertising leads you to be believe the massage will be more sensual than others......so the info on here is very useful.
And if others dont see that, to each his own.
Two posters found this not so graphic information helpful.
If someone gives a "lousy massage" why bother?
Graphic reviews help no one except the fragile egos of guys who feel the need to brag about their "conquests" at AMPs. Grow up already! I think some of you are in your second childhoods.
If life has come down to some 50 year-old, out of shape Asian woman yanking your crank, then you got more problems than can be dealt with here.
Let's focus on who provides great legitimate massages and everything else will fall into place.Way to go "Exec Talent" very well said it puts everything into perspective!
Indian River
01-14-09, 11:31
Maybe we should have a separate DISCUSSION board for everyone who wants to talk to each other and lets keep this board for info on AMPs only. I am tired of just reading conversations back and forth between members. Lets get over it and use the board for what it was intended to do!
Maybe we should have a separate DISCUSSION board for everyone who wants to talk to each other and lets keep this board for info on AMPs only. I am tired of just reading conversations back and forth between members. Lets get over it and use the board for what it was intended to do!We need a thread on Legal/Political Issues/Busts. etc, and another for complaints about how the website is being used.
Sponge Worthy
01-14-09, 17:47
I personally think you have a good intention but this may not be a real viable solution mainly because as may have already noticed there are self proclaimed "GODS" on this forum who will not agree with your idea. And if it is not to their liking they will shoot your idea down with no mercy. I can see where you are coming from and appreaciate your contribution.
Back to the drawing board!
DK
For someone who calls himself "Dr Kool", you certainly seem to lose your cool any time you read something that doesn't go along with your own view of how the world should turn.
I know that some of us here are looking for pussy, but you aren't quite what I had in mind.
Sponge Worthy
01-14-09, 17:48
Let's focus on who provides great legitimate massages and everything else will fall into place.
Well, that's just blatantly false.
Overthepond13
01-14-09, 18:14
Has anybody ever tried Vicki with Vion Massage Therapy?
OrlandoGuy123
01-14-09, 19:28
So, I recently visited the Spa. The girls on CL look amazing.
My review:
Friendliness 9/10
Location 9/10
Facilities 9/10
Attractiveness of therapist 8/10
Massage 6/10
Price 6/10
I say 6/10 on the massage as I asked for harder pressure a few times and she didn't comply, just kept rubbing at the same pressure.
Price 6/10 is a little steep for the service. Paid $.1
I might return but not using the same therapist.
This thread is for us to provide info on our experiences at AMP. Whether good, bad, lame massages; extra or no extra.
I think the statement "great legitimate massages", may need some explaining. When I go to an AMP I would like a 20-30min massage, then a enjoyable flip with extra's.
If you are going to a AMP for just a "great legitimate massage", you can save yourself some time, money and possible issues with LE, just go to a day spa. You will also have more time on your hands since you won't be posting here.
I will take one on the chin here and say that 99.9999% of guys heading to a AMP want more then a "legitimate massage"
As for the harsh comments about Graphic Info, give me a break. This site is based on providing graphic info. If you don't like the graphic reports then I personally think you may be on the wrong site.
Maybe Jackson can assist with clarifying this for us....
Not trying to start a war...just stating the facts.
Surf Out :cool:
Member #5237
01-14-09, 21:43
Two posters found this not so graphic information helpful.
If someone gives a "lousy massage" why bother?
Graphic reviews help no one except the fragile egos of guys who feel the need to brag about their "conquests" at AMPs. Grow up already! I think some of you are in your second childhoods.
If life has come down to some 50 year-old, out of shape Asian woman yanking your crank, then you got more problems than can be dealt with here.
Let's focus on who provides great legitimate massages and everything else will fall into place.If a legitimate massage was what we were all after, we could easily just go the Chamber of Commerce web page or any of the hundreds of providers who advertise in the yellow pages, college campuses, bulletin boards, etc... Let`s not lose focus of the name of this web page, USA SEX GUIDE!
MoonlightBiker
01-14-09, 21:52
This thread is for us to provide info on our experiences at AMP. Whether good, bad, lame massages; extra or no extra.
I think the statement "great legitimate massages", may need some explaining. When I go to an AMP I would like a 20-30min massage, then a enjoyable flip with extra's.
If you are going to a AMP for just a "great legitimate massage", you can save yourself some time, money and possible issues with LE, just go to a day spa. You will also have more time on your hands since you won't be posting here.
I will take one on the chin here and say that 99.9999% of guys heading to a AMP want more then a "legitimate massage"
As for the harsh comments about Graphic Info, give me a break. This site is based on providing graphic info. If you don't like the graphic reports then I personally think you may be on the wrong site.
Maybe Jackson can assist with clarifying this for us....
Not trying to start a war...just stating the facts.
Surf Out :cool:
He actually did clarify this pretty well just a short while ago. Search back a tiny bit and I'm sure you'll find it. He clearly said why the board is here and that it's foolish to think police are going to use this place for info.
Maybe I've gone nuts. Now I can't find it. Was I dreaming? No that can't be...when I dream it always has a happy ending.
It's Post #2403, there's just a lot of trash between here and there.
Let's be careful out there!
If someone gives a "lousy massage" why bother?
Let's focus on who provides great legitimate massages and everything else will fall into place.Well said. Very true.
The purpose of this Forum is to facilitate the exchange of information between men who are looking for sex with women.
This is not an opinion to agree and disagree if you do not like that then you do not know what you signed for and yes MP (this thread) is a thread out of the forum. The purpose of the forum applies to this very thread (MP).
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Hi guys,
Just to put this in perspective:
1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.
2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.
3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.
4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada, safely outside the reach of the USa legal system.
Thanks,
Jackson
References:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/faq.php?
O Town Doug
01-15-09, 01:53
Well new to me at least.
I saw 2 on Colonial on the OBT side heading toward UCF, one was T-SPA next to the big 7-11 and the otherone was Assami Massage a little further down Colonial/SR 50,
Any word on these 2 locations?
We need a thread on Legal/Political Issues/Busts. etc, and another for complaints about how the website is being used.That is a Good one Tex, while we are at it why not add one so that the "GODS" of the board can stroke their "EGOS". Then they can read it and smile or pat themselves on the back. (Pun Intended! )
DK
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Hi Guys,
Do you mean threads like these?
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=973
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=91
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=318
Thanks,
Jackson
So, I recently visited the Spa. The girls on CL look amazing.
My review:
Friendliness 9/10
Location 9/10
Facilities 9/10
Attractiveness of therapist 8/10
Massage 6/10
Price 6/10
I say 6/10 on the massage as I asked for harder pressure a few times and she didn't comply, just kept rubbing at the same pressure.
Price 6/10 is a little steep for the service. Paid $.1
I might return but not using the same therapist.What kind of therapists did they have there? Are there any "Latinas" there?
This thread is for us to provide info on our experiences at AMP. Whether good, bad, lame massages; extra or no extra.
I think the statement "great legitimate massages", may need some explaining. When I go to an AMP I would like a 20-30min massage, then a enjoyable flip with extra's.
If you are going to a AMP for just a "great legitimate massage", you can save yourself some time, money and possible issues with LE, just go to a day spa. You will also have more time on your hands since you won't be posting here.
I will take one on the chin here and say that 99.9999% of guys heading to a AMP want more then a "legitimate massage"
As for the harsh comments about Graphic Info, give me a break. This site is based on providing graphic info. If you don't like the graphic reports then I personally think you may be on the wrong site.
Maybe Jackson can assist with clarifying this for us....
Not trying to start a war...just stating the facts.
Surf Out :cool:Others are looking for a Legitimate, genuine, justifiable, acceptable massage!
You gotta start each day with a song
Lookin' for pussy, lookin' for pussy
Lookin' for pussy, lookin' for pussy
I just gotta see her and tell her I need her
Hurting without her, dreamin' about her
Wonderin' what she's gonna do
And who she's doin' it to
Lookin' for pussy, lookin' for pussy
Lookin' for pussy, lookin' for pussy
Tell her my story, say that I'm sorry
Just gotta find her say I'm behind her
In anything right or wrong
If she'll just take me along
Lookin' for pussy, take me along
Lookin' for pussy, c'mon take me along
Lookin' for pussy, c'mon take me along
Lookin' for pussy, Yeah lookin' for pussy
Lookin' for pussy....
(c) Unknown
Has anyone seen the new place, Asiami, near Mills and Colonial? I was coming from fashion square and happened to notice it. Brand new I hear, but is it new people, or familiar faces? Maybe I'll try it out this weekend.
Moto Monger
01-15-09, 11:52
Has anyone seen the new place, Asiami, near Mills and Colonial? I was coming from fashion square and happened to notice it. Brand new I hear, but is it new people, or familiar faces? Maybe I'll try it out this weekend.I am not much of a conspiracy theorist or pointer of the law finger. And I for one would prefer if people stayed on topic, so yes I may be a little hypocritical here but believe it could be for the greater good.
I find it interesting that 2 brand new member (not that I have been here for years) both just happen too notice the same new place on hwy 50 on the same day. I dunno, just kind of fishy too me.
That is a Good one Tex, while we are at it why not add one so that the "GODS" of the board can stroke their "EGOS". Then they can read it and smile or pat themselves on the back. (Pun Intended! )
DK
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Hi Guys,
Do you mean threads like these?
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=973
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=91
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=318
Thanks,
JacksonThanks Jackson!! You got everything under control and always on top of things!
LittleOrlando
01-15-09, 15:20
Due to some fincial troubles have only occasionally been able to visit AMP in the past 5 years. My atf used to be Vivian (when she had no girls working for her that week) or her crazy friend Mona. But now I read these post and have no idea there wer so many AMPs now. Problem is I don't know what the code is for these places. One poster had OW in Altamonte. Is there someone who can pm me with a list of what the abbreviations (why such a long word? ) stand for.
Thanks
Visited from out of town. Looked for OHT and Tokyo Spa but couldn't find them. I should have gotten better directions.
Instead I found a place on 17-92 that I haven't seen reviewed. The sign on the front just said Massage. Inside, I think there was a card that said International Massage, but I didn't keep the card.
Very attractive Asian lady took me to the room. It was .6 for half hour. No TS.
A nice, but older looking Asian lady gave me the massage. She kept me covered with the towel the entire time. On the flip, I made sure towel came off. (I just like the feel of bare skin better- more relaxing.)
Anyway, it took some effort, because she seemed reluctant, but I convinced her to give me full relaxation with HR. She let me explore, although she seemed reluctant at this too.
The massage was average. The HR was nice... didn't try to end too quickly; let me enjoy the nice touch first.
If I come back, which would not be likely anytime soon, I'd probably try another place first. But if I had to, I wouldn't mind trying again.
You gotta start each day with a song
Lookin' for pussy, lookin' for pussy
Lookin' for pussy, lookin' for pussy
I just gotta see her and tell her I need her
Hurting without her, dreamin' about her
Wonderin' what she's gonna do
And who she's doin' it to
Lookin' for pussy, lookin' for pussy
Lookin' for pussy, lookin' for pussy
Tell her my story, say that I'm sorry
Just gotta find her say I'm behind her
In anything right or wrong
If she'll just take me along
Lookin' for pussy, take me along
Lookin' for pussy, c'mon take me along
Lookin' for pussy, c'mon take me along
Lookin' for pussy, Yeah lookin' for pussy
Lookin' for pussy....
(c) Unknown
These are nice lyrics but, to the tune of what song are we supposed to sing?
Indian River
01-15-09, 18:02
Has anyone seen the new place, Asiami, near Mills and Colonial? I was coming from fashion square and happened to notice it. Brand new I hear, but is it new people, or familiar faces? Maybe I'll try it out this weekend.Nice massage.
Very legit.
NO extras.
These are nice lyrics but, to the tune of what song are we supposed to sing?These are Dr. Hook's Looking for Pussy Lyrics. (Dr. Hook & The Medicine Show)
I found them rather interesting and appropiate since thats what many are doing here. Lyrics and music can be downloaded online at places like itunes or other popular sites.
Music is rather nice and comical in the Rock Genre
Has anybody tried the add for the teacher who needs extra money on Craigs list?
Thanks in advance.
Jay
Phatpistol
01-15-09, 21:05
Due to some fincial troubles have only occasionally been able to visit AMP in the past 5 years. My atf used to be Vivian (when she had no girls working for her that week) or her crazy friend Mona. But now I read these post and have no idea there wer so many AMPs now. Problem is I don't know what the code is for these places. One poster had OW in Altamonte. Is there someone who can pm me with a list of what the abbreviations (why such a long word? ) stand for.
ThanksIf you look at the top of the page it has a category "abbreviations" and that will answer all of your questions.
Moto Monger
01-16-09, 00:57
If you look at the top of the page it has a category "abbreviations" and that will answer all of your questions.I do not believe he is asking for the abbreviations for the lingo, which is what that section is for, he is asking for a translation of the names of the establishments because he does not know what they are called now after his hiatus. Those are not listed in that section. Thats what I took from it anyway.
They say thanks Jackson and they do not even read his comments. Are you sarcastic? Or pun was intended! Read this and many other comments of Jackson.
Greetings Everyone,
First, an AMP is a business, and thus it IS NOT a "personal address", and thus it IS NOT covered under the prohibition against the posting of Personal Contact Information.
Second, a provider's first name, fake or otherwise, IS NOT specificly identifying to the point that it would be considered "Personal Contact Information", and thus it IS NOT covered under the prohibition against the posting of Personal Contact Information.
Thanks,
Jackson
References:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=973
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=91
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=318
WarpFactor69
01-16-09, 10:00
Due to some fincial troubles have only occasionally been able to visit AMP in the past 5 years. My atf used to be Vivian (when she had no girls working for her that week) or her crazy friend Mona. But now I read these post and have no idea there wer so many AMPs now. Problem is I don't know what the code is for these places. One poster had OW in Altamonte. Is there someone who can pm me with a list of what the abbreviations (why such a long word? ) stand for.
ThanksOW = Orlando Weekly.
It is a local newspaper that you can find in coffee shops and cool places to eat as well as places that buy advertisements. In it, you will find info on local music gigs, restaurant reviews, and of course ads for massage!
LittleOrlando
01-16-09, 12:13
I do not believe he is asking for the abbreviations for the lingo, which is what that section is for, he is asking for a translation of the names of the establishments because he does not know what they are called now after his hiatus. Those are not listed in that section. Thats what I took from it anyway.Yes, that is what I meant.
Ow= Orlando Weekly Of course now that it was spelled out
Sponge Worthy
01-16-09, 14:19
Others are looking for a Legitimate, genuine, justifiable, acceptable massage!
Then those "others" are in the wrong forum. One might think they would understand that when typing the URL for this site.
Visited AAA the other day. Nice time, I would recommend again. They had changed hands awhile back and didn't like the new (now old) operation. They are back to the good old days now, however. A little rushed, but I was in a hurry anyways, so didn't mind.
A Russell5150
01-17-09, 10:39
Has anyone been to an AMP lately that they could report on?
I think so I'm sure it's not news to you, I know you've heard it before "you're controlling".
Just have this irresistible urge inside, you have something of dire importance to say.
Please go out hit your place of choice comeback report all the details and next year we'll talk again. You're flooding of the board with useless garbage is unnecessary.
People can't argue with themselves therefore if you speak your opinion and leave it alone this type of crap does not take place.
It's OK to agree to disagree!
Everyone doesn't believe what you believe, nor do you have the control / power to make them. I respect your opinion knowing you're entitled to it. You know the old saying opinions are like assholes everybody's got one and they all come with a different fragrance, I'm sure you enjoy yours but I don't! Thats what we have been trying to say all along! I got to hand it to you, this is a unique, direct and creative way to get your point across. Let's hope this message is finally understood!
This was Great! Very Wise and Smart!
DK
SingleMoms
01-18-09, 01:37
My hope is to one day go to one of these AMPs and fall in love with the girl, and have her love me. She will move in with me and we will live happily ever after. Find me the girl, please! That is the information that I want. Which of these richly deserving female treasures can I make my queen?
It is just a simple question that I am looking for the forum to answer. Who can I make the center of my world, the sun to my earth, etc. Etc. Etc? Until then, my quest continues with a heart full of love to give to a massage therapist.
OK, now everyone, tell me what stupid pussy that I am and please quit yelling at each other. Let's bring back the love. Lets all go to a ball game together and get our drunk on, with designated drivers of course.
Exec Talent
01-18-09, 06:40
When I went to Ginza and had a first class massage from Mae, I reported it here to benefit both the members and Mae.
I started the Real Deal thread and contributed the names of three great girls again to benefit both members and the girls.
Neither post contained graphic details. Did anyone benefit from either of those posts?
Let's get back on topic (sharing of information) on this and other threads. I have made it very clear that I believe you can share information and respect women (and their safety) at the same time. In fact, I have proven it.
The guys who thought it a good idea to share graphic information have proven their point as well. Mae is no longer at Ginza; I no longer get my first class massage from her because of them. Thanks guys, you did a great job. I am sure if Mae posted here she would thank you too.
And, don't give me that bullshit that LE knows what goes on. What went on for me was a great legit massage that I can no longer get from a woman who as best as I can tell was nothing but kind to everyone.
Let's get back on topic. Sponge Unworthys are everywhere. They contribute nothing, but want eveyone else to contribute graphic details on their encounters because they are socially inept and only can relate to women on that level. It is the Mae's of this world who are rare. Do I care about them? Do I look out for them?
Yeah, and I will continue to do so and still share valueable information with members of this forum.
Now, let's get back on topic and stay there and not get distracted by guys who have contributed nothing.
MoonlightBiker
01-18-09, 10:48
Mae was incredible. No doubt about it. However you simply can't give thousands of HJ's and not expect to attract attention. With or without this board I would have to think her time was limited.
I can't get into the debate of how much info should or shouldn't be shared on this board. I don't see where it's a question to be asked. The title of the board and the statements by the man who created the board really tell the story and eliminate the question. One can yell at a leopard all they want but the leopard is still going to have spots. There are plenty of boards out there strictly for legit massages. I don't see where this one needs to be forced to join their ranks.
If it makes anyone feel any better I'll use an old biblical saying; "It is hard for thee to kick against the pricks"
http://www.biblequestions.org/Archives/BQAR075.htm
That isn't to say if it's right or wrong to post graphic info. It's just proving that the intent of the board includes posting such information. The only argument I see is if the board should exist or not, and this really isn't the place for that debate.
Member #5324
01-18-09, 17:02
Mae was amazing. It's a shame that nobody ever found out where she went when she left Ginza. I'm sure she is plying her trade somewhere else. Mae was so good, I would fly wherever she is now for a weekend to get a few more massages from her! I feel the same way about Hannah who was at Assa a year or so ago. I'm glad she left before the LEO problems, but I would love to know what happened to her.
True Critic69
01-18-09, 18:22
Hey guys:
Has anyone seen Vittoria she advertises under Fantasy Bodyworks
This is her ad:
http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/991675151.html
Any info will be appreciated.
Thanx.
Member #5324
01-18-09, 19:58
However, the main question is for Putt Putt and Putt Putt alone -- you say that Mae was so good. Let's be honest now, at what was she so good? A legitimate massage? A HE? Personality? What?
For me, and speaking only for me, she gave the best legitimate massage I ever had. .
Both Mae and Hannah had the total package: a great massage, wonderful HE technique, and personality. For me, all three things are important. It's unusual to find a masseuse who has it all. I agree that Mae gave a tremendous legit massage; she really know how to use those hot stones to relax me. I would see her again just for the massage. But her HE was supurb, and to top it off, she was a really nice lady and I enjoyed her company. So of course I saw her regularly during her short but glorious run.
The personality part might be more important to me than it is to other people. I'm not naive enough to expect a girlfriend-like bonding with a massage therapist. But I do want some kind of connection with them. I want the therapist to have a personality, to be able to carry on a bit of a pleasant conversation, and to make me feel comfortable. I hate it when I get Asian therapists that don't speak any English, even if they are good masseuses, because it makes me feel awkward. Hannah didn't get much attention in this forum, but she was even better than Mae in my opinion. She was a gentle soul, but we really did have a fun time together. And her HE was beyond excellent.
So I certainly agree that for me, the legit massage part of a visit should be worthwhile. But I'm still a horndog and I want a great HE. Throw in a personality, and I'll be smitten and see a therapist regularly.
I guess I want it all, and Mae and Hannah are the two that I have had in Orlando who delivered on all areas: massage, HE, and personality.
Gentlemen,
The purpose of this Forum is to provide for the exchange of information between Men on the subject of finding Women for Sex.
Let's get back to the subject.
Thank You,
Jackson
Fllooking69
01-18-09, 23:16
I have been off the site for awhile and was wondering if there were any places around that do more that the HE on the flip? Any ladies that get naked?
Was told my last time at Ginza that after Lilly and Mae were busted Mae was working as a waitress in a local restaurant. She couldn't afford another bust!
Visited from out of town. Looked for OHT and Tokyo Spa but couldn't find them. I should have gotten better directions.
Instead I found a place on 17-92 that I haven't seen reviewed. The sign on the front just said Massage. Inside, I think there was a card that said International Massage, but I didn't keep the card.
Very attractive Asian lady took me to the room. It was .6 for half hour. No TS.
A nice, but older looking Asian lady gave me the massage. She kept me covered with the towel the entire time. On the flip, I made sure towel came off. (I just like the feel of bare skin better- more relaxing.)
Anyway, it took some effort, because she seemed reluctant, but I convinced her to give me full relaxation with HR. She let me explore, although she seemed reluctant at this too.
The massage was average. The HR was nice... didn't try to end too quickly; let me enjoy the nice touch first.
If I come back, which would not be likely anytime soon, I'd probably try another place first. But if I had to, I wouldn't mind trying again.
Was told my last time at Ginza that after Lilly and Mae were busted Mae was working as a waitress in a local restaurant. She couldn't afford another bust!Lilly of Ginza told me that Mae is in New York.
Hotty Shotty
01-19-09, 23:45
I have been a curious reader so far. But I think it my time to contribute a bit. I was in Orlando for a week and needed a real massage. Since I had nothing to do in the evenings, I called a massage place from CL. This place was located across from a mall on the main road in Altamonte Springs. When I entered I was greeted by an older Chinese woman who was dressed in shorts and sleeveless. She led me to a room and asked to pay first. She asked me if I needed shower, I said yes. Then she told me to take off my clothes off while she was standing there watching. I was nervous and did not remove my boxers. She started laughing and removed my boxers herself saying "you don't want to wet them". Then she took me to the TS. Gave a nice rub, with special attention to problem areas. Then she took me back to the room and started to give me a really good massage. Then suddenly she left saying I will send your masseuse! I was so afraid. Had no idea. All sorts of thoughts running through my head I started to wear my clothes and prepare to run out of there! Just when this gorgeous 24.28 year old hottie walked in. She was wearing shorts and a tight top. Seeing her I did not feel like leaving. She was the hottest girl I have ever been with. After a little playful massage, she flipped me, pulled her top up, put my hands on her boobs, and started to give me what seemed like the best HJ I have ever received. I came in less than a minute. Must have been a record. It takes me a long time just to get up! It was awesome. Her name was Ruby. Has anyone had a chance to see her?
Sponge Worthy
01-20-09, 10:53
I called a massage place from CL. This place was located across from a mall on the main road in Altamonte Springs.
One of the purposes of sharing these stories is to help others find the same thing (or avoid the thing) you found. In order to do that, you have to at least mention the name of the business, where it's at, or something like that. Otherwise, how will we know to find the same business?
Sponge Worthy
01-20-09, 10:55
Visited from out of town. Looked for OHT and Tokyo Spa but couldn't find them. I should have gotten better directions.
You would've had to drive a couple miles north on 17-92 to find Tokyo, on the opposite side of the road.
1885 S US Highway 17 92
Longwood, FL 32750
A Russell5150
01-20-09, 15:11
I have been a curious reader so far. But I think it my time to contribute a bit. I was in Orlando for a week and needed a real massage. Since I had nothing to do in the evenings, I called a massage place from CL. This place was located across from a mall on the main road in Altamonte Springs. When I entered I was greeted by an older Chinese woman who was dressed in shorts and sleeveless. She led me to a room and asked to pay first. She asked me if I needed shower, I said yes. Then she told me to take off my clothes off while she was standing there watching. I was nervous and did not remove my boxers. She started laughing and removed my boxers herself saying "you don't want to wet them". Then she took me to the TS. Gave a nice rub, with special attention to problem areas. Then she took me back to the room and started to give me a really good massage. Then suddenly she left saying I will send your masseuse! I was so afraid. Had no idea. All sorts of thoughts running through my head I started to wear my clothes and prepare to run out of there! Just when this gorgeous 24.28 year old hottie walked in. She was wearing shorts and a tight top. Seeing her I did not feel like leaving. She was the hottest girl I have ever been with. After a little playful massage, she flipped me, pulled her top up, put my hands on her boobs, and started to give me what seemed like the best HJ I have ever received. I came in less than a minute. Must have been a record. It takes me a long time just to get up! It was awesome. Her name was Ruby. Has anyone had a chance to see her?Sounds like Ashai, across from Circuit City. I had the same experience there except for the older lady starting me out.
Rooster8802
01-20-09, 23:10
Sounds like Ashai, across from Circuit City. I had the same experience there except for the older lady starting me out.
More like Lotus, no?
WarpFactor69
01-21-09, 01:25
Sounds like Ashai, across from Circuit City. I had the same experience there except for the older lady starting me out.Actually I am wondering if Hotty Shotty visited that place across from the Altamonte Mall between Northlake and Hattaway. I think it is a newer place. Either way, it sounds like he had a great experience and I am ready for the same.
Laharvardkid
01-21-09, 02:09
Average looking short a bit stocky girl (Hanna) did a good job on TS but only 20 minute massage. I was a bit disappointed but she started teasing while I was face down and she continued a while. On the flip allowed exploring with hands and raised her shirt to show some beautiful mounds. Very long slow and sensual HJ, she was an artist in no hurry with a good finish. Promised more next time. I usually enjoy a good massage with HE but I may be back just to see what is next.
Wurd To Mutha
01-21-09, 11:16
More like Lotus, no?The new place across from the Altamonte Mall, right off a little side street, is called Island Massage.
FloridaBum
01-21-09, 11:16
There is a new place that opened up near the intersection of 436 and Hattaway drive. It is a house that has been converted into a commercial space. Just before the CITGO gas station. I think this is the place that he is talking about.
I have been a curious reader so far. But I think it my time to contribute a bit. I was in Orlando for a week and needed a real massage. Since I had nothing to do in the evenings, I called a massage place from CL. This place was located across from a mall on the main road in Altamonte Springs. When I entered I was greeted by an older Chinese woman who was dressed in shorts and sleeveless. She led me to a room and asked to pay first. She asked me if I needed shower, I said yes. Then she told me to take off my clothes off while she was standing there watching. I was nervous and did not remove my boxers. She started laughing and removed my boxers herself saying "you don't want to wet them". Then she took me to the TS. Gave a nice rub, with special attention to problem areas. Then she took me back to the room and started to give me a really good massage. Then suddenly she left saying I will send your masseuse! I was so afraid. Had no idea. All sorts of thoughts running through my head I started to wear my clothes and prepare to run out of there! Just when this gorgeous 24.28 year old hottie walked in. She was wearing shorts and a tight top. Seeing her I did not feel like leaving. She was the hottest girl I have ever been with. After a little playful massage, she flipped me, pulled her top up, put my hands on her boobs, and started to give me what seemed like the best HJ I have ever received. I came in less than a minute. Must have been a record. It takes me a long time just to get up! It was awesome. Her name was Ruby. Has anyone had a chance to see her?
Sponge Worthy
01-21-09, 11:44
Sounds like Ashai, across from Circuit City. I had the same experience there except for the older lady starting me out.
I was wondering if it was Asahi, but that's not exactly across from the mall. It's a bit of a drive down the road for a mile or two. I'm still not impressed with the place.
Newbie here feel I should contribute. I visited a place on SR50 and Altaloma ave. Was hoping for a massage and more but all I got was a half way desent massage no HE. I tried to do the ol' towel slip but was ask to put it back on immediately. Darn.
Indian River
01-21-09, 12:11
I was wondering if it was Asahi, but that's not exactly across from the mall. It's a bit of a drive down the road for a mile or two. I'm still not impressed with the place.
I think this is the place:
http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/1001494635.html
I think this is the place:
http://orlando.craigslist.org/ths/1001494635.htmlIsland Therapy
260 E Altamonte Springs Rd
(407) 622-5006
Island Therapy
260 E Altamonte Springs Rd
(407) 622-5006I visited Island Therapy today. When I got there was greeted by the short older woman. Very sweet and offered a shower which I complied to. During the wash she was kind and ask if I wanted my privates cleaned. I said "Sure". IT was very relaxing. She then took me back to the room and gave me a pretty decent massage while she sat on me. After that got the flip and finished off with a great slow and smooth HE. Will be back soon.
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