General Reports

[YaleForks]

Guys, I'm looking for 2 CB and used to get it from a provider but she's gone to ground over who knows what issue but I can only guess. Does anyone know where to find? Please PM Me. If you're not sure what that is, please ignore the post. It's a long story but essentially I'm running an experiment of what's the best cocktail for sex. I do plan to celebrate senior status by sharing findings. Don't judge.

Surely one of you knows. Please PM MeIf your still looking I got this Guessing you got some of my supply from Noa.

[SimonJonesUK]

FYI, I was just talking with a guy I work with, another monger, who told me tge Holiday Inn in Cary by Buck Jones Road has girls available (Asian), between 12-4 AM to by-pass the new law citing the police won't come knocking during those times.What's the contact? I'm sure you don't call the Holiday Inn directly, LOL.

[KillDatAss4479]

I've been out of the game since Dec but still peruse occasionally. Have you all noticed price hikes lately?

I thought the market would have changed, butaybe the industry isn't hurting as much as I expected.

I still think by Jul everything will shift. Demand will plummet, prices will plummet, then supply will plummet.

Thoughts?

[ScottiePimp]

I've been out of the game since Dec but still peruse occasionally. Have you all noticed price hikes lately?

I thought the market would have changed, butaybe the industry isn't hurting as much as I expected.

I still think by Jul everything will shift. Demand will plummet, prices will plummet, then supply will plummet.

Thoughts?You have to understand that only a small percentage of mongers are on this board. Most have no clue about the new law. The majority of mongers are moving the same way they always have. Even most on the board who know about the new law are still mongering, but being more careful. The only way I see this changing is if there are several large busts in a relatively short period of time.

[NightTraveler]

I've been out of the game since Dec but still peruse occasionally. Have you all noticed price hikes lately?

I thought the market would have changed, butaybe the industry isn't hurting as much as I expected.

I still think by Jul everything will shift. Demand will plummet, prices will plummet, then supply will plummet.

Thoughts?I believe these girls are hurting and trying to make their money by the one or two visits they see, since at least a few of these idiots are paying the fee no matter what. These girls think that if the guy paying 120 a qv could pay 160, they would only need to see 2 guys, for the days rent, Food and medications. And some guys musy be paying these 120 qv prices because these girls look cute in their picture and they get what they want. But I heard from several that business is very slow. So I it all depends. I bet if providers offered 60 qv the business would be back instantly. They would have to see more guys buy they would show up.

[TheMundane]

Why'all complaining about Price hikes but my question is why are you seeing low rent girls?

I am not seeing anyone for less than $150 because I want quality not necessarily easy access. Most of the girls I see when I visit NC are.

Regular girls I use (Reign, Tanya, Amara, etc) and the price has never changed.

I pay my fee (and I even tip sometimes on top). I am not even mad at the prices because I get it. They price higher to weed out the BS, the same way we don't usually pay deposits because of BS.

[ThePolarVortex]

So many people are talking out of ignorance. People. Seriously. It's 9 pages. Read the damn bill!

https://www.ncleg.gov/Sessions/2023/Bills/House/PDF/H971v7.pdf

I think they saying landlord but focusing more towards vacation rentals (AirBnB's). Not an apartment or rental house; though if they can tie that back to a landlord. They'll arrest / charge / fine / jail them too.So. Two months in and still very quiet. Am I just missing the news stories? Theories?

[BlkScorpio1]

Why'all complaining about Price hikes but my question is why are you seeing low rent girls?

I am not seeing anyone for less than $150 because I want quality not necessarily easy access. Most of the girls I see when I visit NC are.

Regular girls I use (Reign, Tanya, Amara, etc) and the price has never changed.

I pay my fee (and I even tip sometimes on top). I am not even mad at the prices because I get it. They price higher to weed out the BS, the same way we don't usually pay deposits because of BS.Higher price doesn't mean better quality. In fact there is no true way to weed out the good ones except by experience. Even reviews aren't even a good way to judge. The reason why is because in the end, providers are women with real women emotions. A provider may find a guy attractive and is turned on by him so the experience is great. Some times she's not into the guy and is going through the motions. Sometimes they are under the influence of something that makes them like a zombie and sometimes they are on something that makes them horny as hell. To me, the only thing that is certain is that the more you see a particular provider, the more downhill each experience will be. That's because they get entitled.

When you say $150, do you mean for a qv? To me, no provider is worth $150/ qv. I have a range between $150-200 if she is offering what I'm looking for and that's at least BBBJ included and I am will to pay extra for greek. Also how much fun can you have in a qv. I know many guys that do qv's talk about chatting, cuddling and multiple positions but I call cap on most of those posts.

Stay safe.

BLK.

[LifeLine]

Higher price doesn't mean better quality. In fact there is no true way to weed out the good ones except by experience. Even reviews aren't even a good way to judge. The reason why is because in the end, providers are women with real women emotions. A provider may find a guy attractive and is turned on by him so the experience is great. Some times she's not into the guy and is going through the motions. Sometimes they are under the influence of something that makes them like a zombie and sometimes they are on something that makes them horny as hell. To me, the only thing that is certain is that the more you see a particular provider, the more downhill each experience will be. That's because they get entitled.

When you say $150, do you mean for a qv? To me, no provider is worth $150/ qv. I have a range between $150-200 if she is offering what I'm looking for and that's at least BBBJ included and I am will to pay extra for greek. Also how much fun can you have in a qv. I know many guys that do qv's talk about chatting, cuddling and multiple positions but I call cap on most of those posts.

Stay safe.

BLK.I don't believe that the more you see a provider the more downhill each experience gets because it depends upon the circumstances. I've had it go both ways (better and worse), and it was based on those providers and my reactions to their behaviors. I got real close to one who gave the best BBBJ and often I didn't have to pay full price (or not at all) because she liked to talk or needed to get away from the hood for an hour or two. On the other extreme I had one that would blow up my phone daily, and when I finally saw her acted like she was doing me a favor by trying to raise her prices by only $20. Those that see you as only an ATM or bank will treat you that way and take advantage of the situation, especially if they have someone in their ear telling them to do it. If you set boundaries and don't allow them to be crossed then you won't have continued issues.

I do agree with you about the reviews as I only use them for a reference for activities and to confirm someone is legit. As everyone with experience knows, YMMV.

[BlkScorpio1]

I don't believe that the more you see a provider the more downhill each experience gets because it depends upon the circumstances. I've had it go both ways (better and worse), and it was based on those providers and my reactions to their behaviors. I got real close to one who gave the best BBBJ and often I didn't have to pay full price (or not at all) because she liked to talk or needed to get away from the hood for an hour or two. On the other extreme I had one that would blow up my phone daily, and when I finally saw her acted like she was doing me a favor by trying to raise her prices by only $20. Those that see you as only an ATM or bank will treat you that way and take advantage of the situation, especially if they have someone in their ear telling them to do it. If you set boundaries and don't allow them to be crossed then you won't have continued issues.

I do agree with you about the reviews as I only use them for a reference for activities and to confirm someone is legit. As everyone with experience knows, YMMV.I've never had it go from worse to better because I don't give a second chance. I don't believe in having a bad day and you shouldn't either. If a provider isn't feeling it that day, then she shouldn't post and accept dates. Not delivering a good session and then promising a better one the next visit is a ploy to keep you coming back. What other business has that model? We have to expect more. The cheapest girls charging $100/ qv that only makes $200/ day is pulling in $46 K / year working five days a week. That's a good salary for doing 30 minutes of work per day. Think about how hard you have to work for your money and you may change your opinion.

Stay safe.

BLK.

[LifeLine]

I've never had it go from worse to better because I don't give a second chance. I don't believe in having a bad day and you shouldn't either. If a provider isn't feeling it that day, then she shouldn't post and accept dates. Not delivering a good session and then promising a better one the next visit is a ploy to keep you coming back. What other business has that model? We have to expect more. The cheapest girls charging $100/ qv that only makes $200/ day is pulling in $46 K / year working five days a week. That's a good salary for doing 30 minutes of work per day. Think about how hard you have to work for your money and you may change your opinion.

Stay safe.

BLK.I give a second chance depending upon the circumstances, but if the first time is really bad then there would have to be a compelling reason to try again. I usually give a second chance when they approach with a good attitude but the service is lackluster. I am willing to try a second time but set rules for the next visit; only once has someone balked at my demands. If the next time is the same then I never see them again. The one that blew up my phone was done when she tried to raise prices on me, and I kicked her out the car with the same amount of money that she had when she got in.

Truth is we are trying to work angles on them just as they are on us; it's a game we have chosen to play. And the girls making $200/ day aren't saving it to make a better life; if they had such saving skills then they wouldn't be in ratty motels and moving on a regular basis. There lives are not as easy as two visits a day.

[MyGoldenRod]

Tried to setup a date with Elesabel today.

She made me wait after driving about an hr to get there.

Then didn't answer when I knocked on the door.

Left and came back after thinking there was a misunderstanding, but after knocking again no answer. So I just left.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/181822624

[KillDatAss4479]

Trying to stay out of the game and stay retired. But getting that craving.

Still holding back because I'm certain my Black ass will be inmate #00001. Bank account is looking nice though!!


Good hunting to you guys out there!

[Billy Thornton]

Tried to setup a date with Elesabel today.

She made me wait after driving about an hr to get there.

Then didn't answer when I knocked on the door.

Left and came back after thinking there was a misunderstanding, but after knocking again no answer. So I just left.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/181822624Pics in case page gets deleted.

[JRoy12]

Trying to stay out of the game and stay retired. But getting that craving.
This is exactly where I am. I took a couple years off and now In itching to get back in.

[MmceStep]

Trying to stay out of the game and stay retired. But getting that craving.

Still holding back because I'm certain my Black ass will be inmate #00001. Bank account is looking nice though!!


Good hunting to you guys out there!The thing that's bullshit about all of this is that the providers are all 'helpless victims' now. They have to be protected from the guys saying 'yes' to their offers, who are apparently enslaving them.

What about sex addiction? I mean, I think that's what I have. Aren't we also just poor victims, out of control of our faculties when we see ads with naked women in them?

[ScottiePimp]

Trying to stay out of the game and stay retired. But getting that craving.

Still holding back because I'm certain my Black ass will be inmate #00001. Bank account is looking nice though!!


Good hunting to you guys out there!Just be patient. We will know soon enough how all of this works. They are trying to lull everyone to sleep right now. But I agree. It does suck. Sometimes I miss those younger days of having nothing to lose. Back then I would've kept on mongering like there was no tomorrow.

[OralFix]

https://skipthegames.com/posts/raleigh/female-escorts/caucasian_w/your-perfect-treat/473756862947

Either there has been a name change, to go along with reduction in age, or someone is 'borrowing' someone else's pics.

Location change as well.

[CoopDawg]

Tried to setup a date with Elesabel today.

She made me wait after driving about an hr to get there.

Then didn't answer when I knocked on the door.

Left and came back after thinking there was a misunderstanding, but after knocking again no answer. So I just left.

https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/northcarolina/raleigh/181822624Come on man, that add has got to be fake. All the wording screams fake.

[Bubba83]

https://skipthegames.com/posts/raleigh/female-escorts/caucasian_w/your-perfect-treat/473756862947

Either there has been a name change, to go along with reduction in age, or someone is 'borrowing' someone else's pics.

Location change as well.She changed her name about a month ago and she recently moved back over by Garner off 401 past the Walmart.

[ScottiePimp]

She changed her name about a month ago and she recently moved back over by Garner off 401 past the Walmart.What is the setup? Home? Apartment? Hotel? Safe area?

[OralFix]

She changed her name about a month ago and she recently moved back over by Garner off 401 past the Walmart.Thanks for the Intel.

[MmceStep]

Because it looks like the stings aren't being released to the media right now I've been skimming the mugshots for Wake from time to time. I'm sure I've missed some.

You can check out one they caught in Morrisville - 3/9/25 Initials ADQ Charge 14-205.1 Felony Soliciting. Looks like he was caught in the act with a he / she, because a prostitution charge is now 'the act' and providers can't be charged with soliciting. It would be very interesting to see if the special prosecutor's office attempts to convince the provider to pursue him for civil damages.

Be careful out there guys.

[MmceStep]

Sorry for posting twice, but it also looks like they busted two Asian women in Cary on 3/6. If you can figure out where they worked, it would be best to avoid.

[Gufinufi55]

Sorry for posting twice, but it also looks like they busted two Asian women in Cary on 3/6. If you can figure out where they worked, it would be best to avoid.The address where both arrests were made is 319 E CHATHAM ST CARY, NC. If that helps. ?

[YourCCPimp]

Because it looks like the stings aren't being released to the media right now I've been skimming the mugshots for Wake from time to time. I'm sure I've missed some.

You can check out one they caught in Morrisville - 3/9/25 Initials ADQ Charge 14-205.1 Felony Soliciting. Looks like he was caught in the act with a he / she, because a prostitution charge is now 'the act' and providers can't be charged with soliciting. It would be very interesting to see if the special prosecutor's office attempts to convince the provider to pursue him for civil damages.

Be careful out there guys.Just so I'm clear, you can still be charged with prostitution itself just not soliciting?

[Tawayem]

Two women arrested in downtown Cary yesterday. Likely associated with this ad:

https://skipthegames.com/posts/raleigh/female-escorts/asian/252-855-8666-korean-and-japane/183504858064


Sorry for posting twice, but it also looks like they busted two Asian women in Cary on 3/6. If you can figure out where they worked, it would be best to avoid.Yep, someone posted about it in the asian ads thread. Even before the arrests, someone had posted that the ad looked very sus because the address was openly posted and to steer clear.

[MmceStep]

Just so I'm clear, you can still be charged with prostitution itself just not soliciting?Providers cannot be charged with Solicitation, just Prostitution, meaning they're either caught in the act or have admitted to an act with a specific customer. So, these Asians were either fucking while the raid happened or they self snitched. Customers can be charged with either offense. The customer is always going to be deemed the initiator under the law here, which is crazy considering this is the actual 'occupation' of the provider.

[MmceStep]

Yep, someone posted about it in the asian ads thread. Even before the arrests, someone had posted that the ad looked very sus because the address was openly posted and to steer clear.Thanks for the info.

[YourCCPimp]

Providers cannot be charged with Solicitation, just Prostitution, meaning they're either caught in the act or have admitted to an act with a specific customer. So, these Asians were either fucking while the raid happened or they self snitched. Customers can be charged with either offense. The customer is always going to be deemed the initiator under the law here, which is crazy considering this is the actual 'occupation' of the provider.Doesn't that hurt the incentive for providers to cooperate though? Unless it's a sting and the provider is a decoy the provider has probably engaged in the sex act I would think.

[WaterLynn]

Because it looks like the stings aren't being released to the media right now I've been skimming the mugshots for Wake from time to time. I'm sure I've missed some.

You can check out one they caught in Morrisville - 3/9/25 Initials ADQ Charge 14-205.1 Felony Soliciting. Looks like he was caught in the act with a he / she, because a prostitution charge is now 'the act' and providers can't be charged with soliciting. It would be very interesting to see if the special prosecutor's office attempts to convince the provider to pursue him for civil damages.

Be careful out there guys.How do you think this one worked? This wouldn't have been a sting right? Because the provider was arrested as well. Looks like arrest location was a hotel, so do you think maybe hotel staff called police based on their new training and mandatory reporting standards?

[PleasureSeeker]

AMK mug on 3/18.

[CaryMike]

AMK mug on 3/18.Wake County? Not seeing anyone with those initials on that day.

[PitbullFan]

AMK mug on 3/18.Safe to say he wasn't hemmed up w any of the lately reviewed talent.

[PleasureSeeker]

Safe to say he wasn't hemmed up w any of the lately reviewed talent.Just providing a helpful service. If you don't know who she is, just keep it at that.

[LifeLine]

I keep seeing these same things over and over in the forums and though we need to come up with a list for everyone as a reference.

"No AA" - means her pimp / handler (s)/ bf is AA and they plan on robbing people. The belief is that another AA will be armed and will go to war over a robbery.

"Money for uber outcall" - scam. Don't do it. If you're really wanting to see that provider, order the uber yourself. That way if she no-shows you are only out $5.

"No GFE" - she really means it and most likely is charging way more than she's worth. Giving her more money means she might moan a few more times but that's it. Don't ask, don't get mad when she says no, and don't waste your time / money if you are looking for GFE.

"I'll be ready in X minutes" when you are at the motel waiting on the room number. She's either got another monger with her, taking medication, setting you up, or about to flake. Don't wait more than 5 minutes and keep your head on a swivel. DO NOT give out your car info. If you don't get the number soon then bail.

"It's just a cut / It's a burn scar / I was picking at a bump" - learn the difference between a STI scab / sore, impetigo, and a burn scab. Google the pictures. If she has one just leave. If she's wearing a lot of makeup take a closer look to see if she's covered up any scars / sores.

[MmceStep]

How do you think this one worked? This wouldn't have been a sting right? Because the provider was arrested as well. Looks like arrest location was a hotel, so do you think maybe hotel staff called police based on their new training and mandatory reporting standards?Yes, I think it's very likely that the hotel staff dimed on them. My best guess is cops went to the room and they answered the door. Note that in NC, you do not have to let them in without a warrant or imminent danger / render assistance requirement, and of course you don't have to answer questions. (This is where it's helpful if the room is in your name, not the provider's. You have control of who enters) I would imagine they were either in the act or just finished when the door knock happened. Cops probably separated the provider from monger and told the provider "You don't have to worry about solicitation anymore" but one of them self snitched about the act that just happened, or they could have found a used condom etc. My best guess would be the monger self snitched in this situation as they would be less apt to charge the provider with prostitution if he / she was cooperative. Note that Solicitation and Prostitution are separate charges in NC. People forget this. The legal bar for Solicitation is very low here.

The hotel staff risk isn't really that they're going to stop you in the lobby (although that would be uncomfortable). It's that they're going to let you get in the room, and then call the cops. By the time they arrive, you're comfortable. If this happens to you, talk through the door. Do not open it. If they try to do the 'welfare check' bs to demand the door gets opened, you'll have to assess how grave the threat of them busting in is. If they do force their way in, at least your attorney will have some ammo for an illegal search defense. Of course, they're going to turn your life upside down in the process. Stay safe out there.

[JJCale]

Just kicking around the idea. If not allowed admins please delete. But for sites with the reviews behind a paywall would anyone be interested in a community account?

I would set it up with the same email and password for a few of the favorites like rubmaps and eroticmonkey. Just would ask for small donations from the community from time to time to keep them up.

If there is enough interest I could potentially have everything setup by the end of the week.