View Full Version : General Reports
First of all, I never said there is a right to assault people. I said a person who is being ripped off has a right to try to stop the rip-off and retrieve their money. Why should it matter that the perpetrator is female? Are you suggesting that females have a free pass to commit theft? If someone breaks into your house and grabs your cash and tries to exit with it, will you let the person go because you have "no right to assault someone short of protecting yourself."? Or does that depend on whether the fleeing thief is male or female? The only difference in this scenario is that the theft is not occurring in the context of another illegal act, namely solicitation. And if you believe that by committing solicitation you lose any right to protect your property or be treated fairly, then why are you out soliciting in the first place?
You do not have the right to assault someone short of protecting yourself or someone else. That "right" simply does not exist. To parse it or try and manufacture some nonexistent fine print is rather silly.
If I have to choose between being ripped off and hitting a woman I will take the financial hit (which figures out to be less than a tank of gas these days) every single time. I say that because I prefer to be the sort of MAN that does not have beating on women as one of the attributes I carry around in life.
You can choose to assault someone. You can choose to break many laws. To assert that in doing so you have imaginary rights is a little bit childish. If you engage in these "rights" enough times you will eventually be prosecuted and no reasonable person will feel an ounce of sympathy for you.
I do not say any of this with any anger or vitriol at anyone. I understand where differing opinions come from. I also understand that they are wrong by any rational civilized standard of behavior. Making a beast of yourself is nothing to be proud of. To condone it of others is pretty lousy as well. There really isn't any gray area here.
A lot of these desperate woman behave in vile and ugly ways. That is simply no excuse to bring yourself to that level. Boys should not hit girls. Period.
That was an excellent and non-violent way to get a little revenge on these cash & dashers and hopefully teach them a lesson. Thanks.
I was the victim of a cash and dash before and I let her get away but low and behold I saw her again about 6 months later and I was in a different vehicle even if her memory was that good which it wasnt so I picked her up and drove off and just kept driving while talking to her and after I got her about 10 miles away I pulled over and asked her if she remembered me (to which she claimed she did not) and As I recalled to her all of the events and she started to get nervous and of course tell me it was her sister (I am wondering how dumb she actually thought I was) I told her we are even now and to GET OUT or I would just continue on to the nearest police station and well she got out and had a nice walk.
I agree we need to not only post about this but to also make a stand that we will not put up with this type of behavior. I do not judge one way or the other how LF handled it. as he handled it how he saw fit to (can you imagine how thier pimps handle them when they do not bring money home as we could all tell by jennifer) just my 2 cents
Ran the stroll twice on friday, once around 6pm and then again around 10pm. On my first trip through I saw a couple of wsw, both heavier set. Didn't recognize them. Just off CR on Bowman? I spotted a bsw with longish hair. Wound up going around and coming back up Bowman to get a better look, as I pulled up to her I got the distinct impression that she may be a he! I may be wrong but that's the impression I got and wasn't about to ask for a closer inspection to check.
Made a second pass through after spending a few hours with the sweet ladies of the Hollywood Showclub in WP. Didn't see anybody out, there were a lot of flashing lights about 3 or 4 blocks south of CR.
I wasn't seriously trolling anyways. Just wanted to run the stroll and see who might be out and about since the weather was nice. Probably wouldn't have picked anyone up except Shannon or Ashley and of course no sign of them.
I was the victim of a cash and dash before and I let her get away but low and behold I saw her again about 6 months later and I was in a different vehicle even if her memory was that good which it wasnt so I picked her up and drove off and just kept driving while talking to her and after I got her about 10 miles away I pulled over and asked her if she remembered me (to which she claimed she did not) and As I recalled to her all of the events and she started to get nervous and of course tell me it was her sister (I am wondering how dumb she actually thought I was) I told her we are even now and to GET OUT or I would just continue on to the nearest police station and well she got out and had a nice walk.
I agree we need to not only post about this but to also make a stand that we will not put up with this type of behavior. I do not judge one way or the other how LF handled it. as he handled it how he saw fit to (can you imagine how thier pimps handle them when they do not bring money home as we could all tell by jennifer) just my 2 cents
What happens if she is high on crack and you take her 10 miles out and she has a heart attack or runs in front of a car? Are you just as guilty as if you forcably took your money back? In the courts eyes, I think you would be. Could you also be charged with attempted kidnapping for taking someone where they did not want to go? No, I will take my money back if possible. If she gets away with it (and a few have) I park a way back the next time I see her out and take pictures. You would be surprised at how effective a flash is in running someone off the streets. If she has to wait a few more hours to get her fix, she may remember you.
When did this change to being about morality and the law. You know that if you are caught with a hooker, you maybe charged with a crime. If you hit one of these girls, you maybe charged with a crime. I do not want to see any of these girls hurt, and I don't want to see any of the guys riped off, but it happens. I will not judge a guy by what he does about it. I do want to know what girls are most likely to try to rip me off, and I post it big time when I get ripped off. There is much talk on this board about legal rights. I would guess that no one giving legal advice here is an attorney. I do not know of an attorney that give free advice.
Just off CR on Bowman? I spotted a bsw with longish hair. Wound up going around and coming back up Bowman to get a better look, as I pulled up to her I got the distinct impression that she may be a he! I may be wrong but that's the impression I got and wasn't about to ask for a closer inspection to check.
It is probably not proper to quote yourself but oh well. The bsw I spotted was slender with probably shoulder length hair that was up sorta like a pony tail. Damn i suck at descriptions, lol. Was slender in blue jeans and a black jacket. Looked interesting enough from CR to circle back around but when I drove up on her/him on Bowman (i think that is the proper street) there was just something about the face. The street is also a couple blocks east of where you usually see the gals on CR so that made me suspicious too.
I've been participating in the SW extracurricular activity for a couple of years now (1-2), but only on the east side. However, it seems like patrols have been stepping up the last couple weeks due to a violent incident that occured there recently (information from a SW) not sure if that's the real reason of increased patrol. Anyways I'm pretty fluent on the stroll on the east side but I'm looking to explore the strolls in MO. I'm looking for someone to possibly be show me the ropes, possibly meet at a central spot and I can follow to get the layout, good parking spots, hot LE watchtowers, etc. Also I must admit I'm not to fluent about st. Louis roads beyond downtown (specifically past Union Station). If there is anyone intested please let me know. I'm usually free Wednesday nights, and the weekends but I can always adjust.
Well, on Thursday afternoon, I stumbled upon the lady known as "Shorty A"--the "A" is short for Ashleigh. However, don't confuse this Ashleigh with the other Ashleigh I dated in December. Both Ashleigh's work the same East St. Louis area and are young spinners in their 20's.
I picked Shorty A up somewhere in the 9th Street / Exchange Avenue area or just east of it--I've forgotten exactly where since I was all over St. Louis and the East Side on Thursday and Friday of last week.
Shorty A says she's 21, she has very nice breasts that I enjoyed fondling at the motel, is naturally blonde but I think she may have dyed her hair a different shade of blonde than her eyebrows. She says her eyes are brown; they looked kinda hazel to me.
Shorty A was a little hungry, so we went through the drive-through at the Taco Bell near the truck stop on Route 203, across from the Gateway International Race Track.
One thing about Shorty A is her hair sometimes sheds. If you're worried about being caught by your S.O., you'll want to bring a hand vacuum with you (or stop at a car wash) because her blonde hair was all over the front seat and door of my car.
I wanted to take her to my hotel, but for some reason she would only go to the motel she was staying at near Bond Avenue, perhaps in Alorton, a real dive. I was reluctant to go to her motel, but she mentioned we would be going to Jenna's room. I know the level-headed Jenna from 2 other visits, so I agreed. This is 30- or 40-something Jenna, not to be confused with the new 20-something Jenna, who I also met this weekend, but that's another post. The older 30- or 40-something Jenna is sometimes also known as Janeen / Janette.
(By the way, I found the hot, new 20-something Jenna about five hours later at 9 PM on Thursday night. She was standing on 1st Street about a hundred feet north of St. Clair Avenue.)
When we got to the dive motel, sure enough 30- or 40-something Jenna was in the room, so I asked her a couple questions about the dear, departed Nina who was murdered by savage(s) on the balcony of the First Western motel on February 3, just ten days after I visited the East Side in January--too close for my comfort, plus I have walked on the balcony of that motel to check out the rooms, though I have never stayed there. It's a good quality motel, not a dive, but there are better.
Anyhow, 30- or 40-something Jenna tells me that the police detained a couple guys in Nina's murder. Jenna even mentions their first names. You'll remember from my post last month that the Major Case Squad of Greater St. Louis was called in to investigate the murder. Here's a link to that post. (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=614738&highlight=major+case+squad#post614738)
Now Jenna tells me something that raises the hair on the back of my neck. She says Kendra, who I dated just 10 days before Nina's murder, was also battered by the killers who killed Nina. Jenna says it was Kendra who identified the two to police. I got the impression from the first names of the two guys that they may have been 2 men that the ladies knew. The names were very odd. I think one began with an "Sh." (I'm not telling you anything that other folks don't already know through the grapevine.)
I should have asked Jenna if one of the 2 guys was the man Kendra was staying with, but I neglected to ask. Last month, I wrote here as a warning that when I drove Kendra home and asked if I could ever knock on her door for a date, she warned me not to because her "god brother" would strangle her and hang her by her toes. I really wish I would have asked Jenna if one of the 2 guys detained by police was the guy Kendra had been staying with for 2 months. If any of you find this out, let me know. (I'm back in Columbia, Missouri--2 hours away, so I can't ask Jenna from here.)
Anyway, you'll recall that the news article mentioned that the police had 3 suspects but they were not in custody. And there has never been any follow-up from the newspaper that I can find, so we are left in the dark. Here's the relevant passage from BND.com that appeared in early February: "The three persons of interest are from the metro-east, but no additional information is being released about them at this time because of the ongoing investigation, Major Lakin said. They are not in custody."
"Lakin said investigators will re-evaluate all their information...to determine if they have enough to file charges against the persons of interest."
Jenna seems convinced the 2 guys detained by the police are Nina's murderers. I asked Jenna if the police actually charged the men with Nina's murder. Jenna said no, they have not. So that explains the lack of follow-up by the newspaper at BND.com .
So apparently, there are still no charges filed against anyone in Nina's murder, but some ladies think they know who the murderers are.
Jenna or Shorty A said a crowbar was used to kill Nina--that's one reason why I called the killers savages. Jenna said Kendra was also struck by the crowbar, but on the back, not the head. The lovely Kendra, a mere 22 years of age, survived. I don't know if Nina's killers were actually trying to kill Kendra, too, or not. Maybe the killers just lashed out at Kendra. Everyone seems to have known one another--at least that's my impression. Shorty A said she believes Kendra "set up" Nina, but Jenna scoffed at this and outrightly dismissed Shorty A's "set up" allegation. Kendra was struck on the back, after all.
Here is my review of the sweet, sweet Kendra from 2 months ago. (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=612657&highlight=Kendra#post612657) It's hard for me to believe Kendra, who is so sweet and nice, had anything to do with Nina's demise. The sad thing is it appears no one has yet been charged in Nina's murder, but some of the ladies think they know who the murderers are.
Be safe out there when you pick up street walkers. Things happen. - Rosco
====================================
PS: Shorty A had a bit of a tummy on her. I now think she may be pregnant, after reading someone's email. When I saw her tummy, I wondered about it for a second, but decided she was not pregnant and so I didn't ask (I didn't want to offend her by implying she looked a little fat) [chuckle]. But now I believe she is, indeed, pregnant. Be especially gentle with this 21-year-old expectant lady, if you see her.
For the second day in a row I saw two wsw sitting in a vehicle. One day they were sitting in SUV appeared to be almost new and today they were in a red pickup. Right across the street from the brick church. Not good with street names. One was an older attractive blond and the other was a much younger and very attractive dark blond. They both ask if I was looking for some action and if I was a cop. Since I never seen them before until two days ago I declined. I always play in very cautious. Does anyone know anything about these two?
Alex P Keaton
03-24-08, 19:59
I wanted to take her to my hotel, but for some reason she would only go to the motel she was staying at near Bond Avenue, perhaps in Alorton, a real dive. I was reluctant to go to her motel, but she mentioned we would be going to Jenna's room. I know the level-headed Jenna from 2 other visits, so I agreed. This is 30- or 40-something Jenna, not to be confused with the new 20-something Jenna, who I also met this weekend, but that's another post.
Ashley and early-30's Gena have been sharing a room for about a week at the Princess in Alorton, just across the East St. Louis border. Although it is a dive, as you say, they say it is more economical than the Royal, less known to law enforcement, and safe.
Alex P,
How much are the rooms at the Princess and do they have hourly rates?
KS
Ashley and early-30's Gena have been sharing a room for about a week at the Princess in Alorton, just across the East St. Louis border. Although it is a dive, as you say, they say it is more economical than the Royal, less known to law enforcement, and safe.
Drove the east side circuit around 8:30 this morning. Got caught by the train on Exchange between 4th and 5th (I was on the 4th St. side). So I started to turn around to go back to 1st when a girl came out of a house on 4th and started walking toward me. She had long straight reddish brown hair, 20s, appeared to be a thick girl with a round face. Not my type so I pulled away. Thinking back, I should have cracked the window to find out her name and who else was staying in that house (the one that supposedly Shannon, Ashley and Gena were staying in), but I didn't want to give her false hope that I would date her. Other than her, no one was out at all. Given my less than great description, does anybody have an idea who she might have been?
Also, a couple of guys have posted recently about seeing or dating Ashley/Shorty A, but they didn't describe the quality of the experience. In the past she has been a mediocre to bad date. Has she gotten better lately? My experience has been that she's got a pretty bad attitude.
Teenager shot to death in ESL is city's fourth slaying this year
BY CAROLYN P. SMITH
News-Democrat
Police are investigating the shooting death of a 19-year-old East St. Louis teenager -- the city's fourth homicide this year.
Police were not releasing the identity of the teen pending notification of relatives.
The victim was found after 8 p.m. outside near a porch to an apartment in the 1100 block of Natalie Avenue. He had been shot multiple times, Chief Michael Baxton said.
Police did not immediately have a suspect or motive. Detective Michael Floore, who is heading the investigation, said the area is known for drug trafficking but said police did not know whether drugs are involved in the man's slaying.
The victim was found fully clothed, wearing a hat and a black hoodie. Floore said police did not know whether the victim knew the people inside the home near where his body was found because they had not yet interviewed them. The owners of the apartment told police they had heard gunshots but hadn't seen anything.
Police got the call at 8:19 p.m. and found as many as 10 spent shell casings on the ground. They didn't immediately know what type of gun was used in the shooting.
Baxton said he expects to solve the case, and that police will aggressively work around the clock until it is solved.
"We've got to take these guns off the street; we've got to take the streets back," he said. "It's going to take everybody to do that, everybody."
Councilman Robert Eastern III said he intends to make sure police have the resources they need to solve the crime. He stressed that residents need to support the police as well.
"We're not asking citizens to take up arms, but we need them to be involved and call the police when they see or hear things," he said.
An Illinois State Police crime scene technician was on the scene, which was illuminated by bright spotlights provided by fire trucks.
Police are asking anyone with information to call them at 482-6700 or call Crime Stoppers at 866-371-TIPS
Contact reporter Carolyn P. Smith at csmith@bnd.com or 239-2503.
For the second day in a row I saw two wsw sitting in a vehicle. One day they were sitting in SUV appeared to be almost new and today they were in a red pickup. ...d if I was a cop. Since I never seen them before until two days ago I declined. I always play in very cautious. Does anyone know anything about these two?
Do a search on red pickup both here and Washington Park, Il. I remember some discussion about two or three girls in a red pickup. The general consensus was that it was a set up.
Country Boy #3
03-25-08, 11:11
For the second day in a row I saw two wsw sitting in a vehicle. One day they were sitting in SUV appeared to be almost new and today they were in a red pickup. Right across the street from the brick church. Not good with street names. One was an older attractive blond and the other was a much younger and very attractive dark blond. They both ask if I was looking for some action and if I was a cop. Since I never seen them before until two days ago I declined. I always play in very cautious. Does anyone know anything about these two?
Last thursday, there was a late model tan Jeep grand cherokee sitting on 2nd street across from the church. I never got a good look at who was in it though.
Last thursday, there was a late model tan Jeep grand cherokee sitting on 2nd street across from the church. I never got a good look at who was in it though.Yes that was the vehicle usually there late afternoon around 4:00PM or 5:00PM. Shame if it is a set up the young girl was really attractive and the older one isn't bad either.
Alex P Keaton
03-25-08, 20:18
How much are the rooms at the Princess and do they have hourly rates?
I don't know the rates but they definitely rent by the hour as well as overnight.
The Princess Motel's street address is 3700 Walnut Avenue in Alorton. The nearest highway exit is Tudor and 13th, from where you would take 13th to Bond, turn right on Bond, take Bond to 37th (seeing a sign for the motel on your left), turn left on 37th, and take 37th across the railroad tracks (seeing the motel on your right).
On Friday, a little before 2 PM, I picked up Michelle on 9th Street, between Lake and Lynch. She was sitting on a chair at the side of the road. Nothing else around her. Just her and the chair! [chuckle]. It was a little funny.
She said she's 35. I'd estimate between 35 and 45, maybe 40. Michelle's a wsw who is 5'5" in height, brunette, brown eyes, healthy build (not skinny, not fat--just healthy). And she was wearing cool black shades.
She agrees to have the date at my hotel. On the way, she tells me how horny she is, and how she wants to do this and do that. This chick is a gamer, up for whatever you like. She aims to please because she wants repeat business.
She said she doesn't do this often, but occasionally will go out and walk.
At the hotel, she takes a very quick shower, and comes out, excited to begin. We had agreed to full service while talking in the car, but, as cautious as I am, I now decide a hand job will do me fine. That's my favorite after all, and I'm very careful with strangers whom I've just met.
She gives a very enthusiastic hand job. She says she wants to suck me, and she wants me to lick her, but I'm happy with a hand job. When we're done, I paid her $40, which is $5 more than the full-service fee of $35 we agreed to. (Most of the $500 I blew went to the strip clubs.)
Michelle has a cute baby-like devil tattooed above one breast. The ink is red. I enjoyed my time with her. As I said she is enthusiastic, which is something "Shorty A" is not.
Before dropping her off where she wanted, we stop at a convenience store so she can buy a half-pint of black gin and one or two other things.
So the date went very well. Later, however, I discover that my hotel receipt print-out is missing. It's a half sheet of paper that had my name and address on it. Hopefully, she's lost it by now [laughter]. I had placed the print-out on a desk in the hotel room. Mistake. I shoulda folded it and put it in my pocket.
Dang, she seemed so honest, and the date was so good.
The following day, I see her again. It was Saturday about noon, shortly before I'm set to drive back to Columbia, 2 hours away from the stroll. I wonder if I should ask her about my hotel print-out with my address on it, but I decide it's better not to bring it up. She's probably lost the sheet of paper by now and forgotten about it ;-)
Anyway, I slowed down to talk to her, and exchange pleasantries. Well, my window was lowered a bit too much. As I stop, she immediately reaches in, presses the auto door unlock button, and steps in. She wants another date, but I tell her I'm getting ready to drive home. She wants $20 before she gets out of the car. Yesterday's fine date is turning into today's nightmare. I convince her to take $10, and point out to her that she's extorting me. She says she hates herself for doing it.
I wasn't going to mention this about her, but since she gave me such a hard time trying to extort $20, I just want you guys to know that she told me she's been back on prescription Xanex for the past month. She used Xanex once before, but stopped because she didn't like it.
I'd say go ahead and date her (with cover of course), since she acted so enthusiastic and normal the day earlier during our date.
But if you see her the following day, just make sure you got your window raised up high enough [chuckle], or she can become all loopy to extort $20 from ya. And don't leave any important papers lying about :)
- Rosco
It seems that most of the people on this board are familiar with the wsw Shannon. Despite my being a regular monger on the east side the last couple of years, I've never run into her before tonight. I felt like I already knew her because Jennifer talked about her quite a bit. I was driving around feeling sorry for myself because my two favorite girls are gone: Melissa RIP and Jennifer, who nobody has seen for a month now and who hopefully has finally gone back home to mother. I'm thinking to myself that there don't seem to be many good providers left anymore, just cash & dashers like Amanda and ones with bad 'tudes like Shorty A. I was saying to myself, "I wish I could finally run into Shannon."
I cruise down CR and I see a young blond with somewhat short hair, kind of big across the middle and walking almost like she was pregnant. I passed her by. This might have been Shorty A but it was too dark to get a good look.
So I go down Exchange and around 4th I see a young, thin, attractive blond. She says her name is Shannon. Jackpot! We go to a motel in Fairmont and on the way we talk about Melissa (which brought tears to her eyes) and Jennifer. At the motel she tries to tell me her regular price is $80 (yeah right!). We agree on $60. I know you can get FS for less than that, but I could tell Shannon would be better than average.
She was. She wanted to get right to sucking my dick but not like some girls do who want to avoid any real body contact. She started by hugging, caressing and even kissing me, then got to sucking. Then we did mish which was a real pleasure because she has a pretty face and nice titties. Her only physical flaw is the wrinkled loose skin on the lower abdomen common on these girls after they give birth. She even hugged and kissed me after I came, unlike some girls who are practically pushing you off of them.
All in all a nice date with a nice pretty girl who is easy to talk to. Like her late GF Melissa, Shannon is focused on client satisfaction and earning repeat business. But I guess most of you knew that.
Alex P Keaton
03-26-08, 19:34
Shannon . . . is a nice pretty girl who is easy to talk to.
Agreed, with the caveat that I found her difficult to get along with on one occasion when she had been drinking.
Mister Quick
03-28-08, 09:05
Vickie Tillman just wants to find her sister.
Tillman flew to the metro-east from Oceanside, Calif. , to make sure that information and photos of her missing sister, Janet Tillman, 50, of Belleville, are the in public eye. She gathered up family members, printed out posters with her sister's photo and stood along South Illinois Street near Belleville City Hall on Thursday morning to catch as many eyes as possible.
"There has just been no progress on her case, " Vickie Tillman said. "I came here to find my sister. My sister was somebody, she was loved, and I have no plans to walk away from this. "
Belleville police said they still are investigating the disappearance of Janet Tillman, of the 9500 block of West Main Street in Belleville, whose criminal record includes convictions for prostitution. "It's still an open case. Investigations is working it as a missing-persons case, " Belleville Police Detective Rob Thomason said.
Tillman was reported missing Nov. 5, several days after family members last heard from her.
"She was a prostitute, " her sister said. "She lived in Belleville for 12 years. She had her own place, her own money. She didn't have to do what she did, but she did it, and I can't do anything about that. "
Tillman is a black woman with medium skin tone; 5 feet, 7 inches tall; 185 pounds; and wears glasses. She has a scar on her neck from a trachea tube and a scar on her left eyebrow.
She was last seen while working as a prostitute getting into a vehicle with an unidentified person on either October 16 or October 28 in the area of Ninth Street and Exchange Avenue in East St. Louis, according to Belleville police. She was also known to frequent the Illinois 203 Truck Stop in Troy.
Though Janet Tillman went missing in East St. Louis, the case was transferred to Belleville because she was a resident there, Vickie Tillman said.
A similar protest will be held by the family at 9 a. M. Friday in front of East St. Louis City Hall
"Janet was a caller, " Vickie Tillman said. "She'd call someone in the family every day, and no one had heard from her, so we knew something was wrong. Janet wouldn't go anywhere without telling anyone anything.- she's just not like that. "
Anyone with information is asked to call the Belleville Police Department at 234-1218.
Vickie Tillman is also putting up $3, 000 of her own money as a reward for information that leads to the location of her sister. Tillman can be reached at (888) 423-1915.
"She's out there somewhere, " Tillman said. "She's still missing, and we love her. However God decides to bring her home to us, we just want her home."
Mister Quick
03-28-08, 09:14
The pics did not load.
Someone mentioned they've seen "Shorty A" pregnant 3 times over 3 years. Does she know who the father of each baby is? I hope it's a boyfriend of hers, or something like that. Is there any chance she's getting pregnant year-after-year by customers?!
Does she have custody of any of her children? I remember the other Ashleigh (not Shorty A) telling me that one of her children is under the full custody of its father.
Roscoe,
I have seen Shorty A pregnant three times since I met her. The first child, a cute little girl, was most likely fathered by a former boyfriend. I don't know what happen to the second child but I suspect that she mis-carried. The third child is still in the oven. Her mother has custody of the 1st child.
I would recommend that their boyfriends get a paternity test to prove the child is his. Actually we all should get paternity tests for our kids just to be sure. Some of the companies that do paternity testing claim that about 30% of the men in this country are raising some other mans child.
If a SW gets pregnant by a customer, he's probably somebody that looks similar to boyfriend.
Someone mentioned they've seen "Shorty A" pregnant 3 times over 3 years. Does she know who the father of each baby is? I hope it's a boyfriend of hers, or something like that. Is there any chance she's getting pregnant year-after-year by customers?!
Does she have custody of any of her children? I remember the other Ashleigh (not Shorty A) telling me that one of her children is under the full custody of its father.
Member #4228
03-28-08, 22:54
Wow ... "Paternity Test"
Fellas,
That comment hit it on the head. I was one of the unlucky ones whom found out the hard way after I had been raising the kid for quite some time. Now I did not run away from the kid(s) but I did remove the b itch out of my life. Hence why I started on this board.
Just a few odds and ends from my visit a week ago. I happened to run into older, white Pebbles and young, black La-La. I ran into La-La on late Thursday afternoon and early Friday night. La-La is a very good-looking young black woman.
3 or 4 times, I had folks on foot and in cars ask me "What you need?" or "What are you looking for?" I assume they wanted to sell some funny candy.
I saw very few cops last week on the East Side. In fact, I don't remember seeing a single patrol car on the Illinois side, unlike some previous visits when the police were thick, in part because of the shootings.
Oh, I also ran into BabyCakes, being driven by a younger black man. She's an older black woman who sweetly showed me her chest for 2 dollars. She was in her car. I was by mine. Anybody ever date any of these ladies: Pebbles, La-La, or BabyCakes?
Country Boy #3
03-31-08, 00:04
Saturday night around 9pm, there was a brunette WSW on 1st st. across from the wash rack. I might have stopped had it not been for about 6 or 8 black guys standing under the awning of the farm supply building about 20 feet away. I don't know what that was all about.
Other than her, it was pretty quite on the east side.
Mister Quick
03-31-08, 10:00
Wow ... "Paternity Test"
Fellas,
That comment hit it on the head. I was one of the unlucky ones whom found out the hard way after I had been raising the kid for quite some time. Now I did not run away from the kid(s) but I did remove the b itch out of my life. Hence why I started on this board.Saw a news report on TV a few months ago about guys who got "trapped" into marriage by a pregnant GF. They later learned the kid was not theirs and got a divorce. They were however forced to pay support on the kids since they had previosly claimed them. These guys were trying to get the law changed claiming that DNA evidence would free them from death row if it proved they were innocent, but it could not prevent them from paying child supprt forever for a kid who was not theirs.
Thsi would suck a lot.
...La-La is a very good-looking young black woman .... Anybody ever date any of these ladies: Pebbles, La-La, or BabyCakes?
Indeed La La is extremely attractive, although I have not seen her in almost three years. If you ask any of the girls who the prettiest girl on the stroll is, most of them will say La La. She is a mixed-race light-skinned black and as of the last time I saw her I would describe her as younger version of Halle Berry with smaller tits.
I dated her quite a few times in late 04 and early 05. In reality she is more of a con artist and thief than a SW. She works the stroll when she can't get crack money any other way. She will come onto you and act real sweet, but she is not. Amazingly, she has virtually no friends. She manages to piss off everybody in the hood and has been jumped any number of times for ripping off other girls, dealers, former boy-friends, etc. As a result, I've been told, her face isn't as pretty as it once was. And she will certainly rip off clients if given the chance. In late 05 or early 06 everyone was talking about how La La got arrested: While driving a stolen pick-up truck she had a crack-induced seizure and crashed through someone's house! And that is not the wildest thing this girl has done. Then for a year there were rumors she was dead. In reality she was just locked up. In 07 girls were telling me they had spotted her at the Royal and other places.
So let me cut to the chase: If you run into La La, should you pick her up? Only if you are an experienced monger who knows the ropes. Make sure the date is on your turf. Don't let her talk you into anything. Keep your eyes on your wallet and car keys. If you can handle her, you will enjoy her because she is damn pretty. Perfect face (see caveat above about how her looks may have changed some and I haven't seen her lately), small but perky perfectly shaped tits, amazing little ass. Firm and smooth everywhere. Flawless complexion. She is an unenthusiastic and impatient cocksucker, but she will lie patiently while you lick her or bang her. After you agree on a price she will try to get more money out of you.
BTW, the girl is smart. She never finished high school because instead she was in prison on drug and weapons charges. Despite that she is fairly articulate and writes with almost perfect spelling. She is a wild, sullen, frustrated, utterly crack-addicted and totally self-absorbed young woman. If you're into bad girl b*tch types, she's the one for you.
About car keys. There have been times when I had to get out of my car and leave the girl inside while I took care of something. Many times, the girls noticed that I grabbed my keys when I got out. They would say they wanted to listen to the radio while I was gone or pretend to be pissed off because I didn't trust them. Either way, always keep your car keys with you.
I got careless a few days ago and left the keys in my car. The girl didn't steal my car. She unlocked the glove box and hid her drugs in it while I was gone. Imagine my surprise if LE had stopped us and search my car. Do you think that they would believe me if I told them that drugs locked in my glove box weren't mine?
... Keep your eyes on your wallet and car keys. ... .
Oh, I also ran into BabyCakes, being driven by a younger black man. She's an older black woman who sweetly showed me her chest for 2 dollars. She was in her car. I was by mine. Anybody ever date any of these ladies: Pebbles, La-La, or BabyCakes?The bsw Kim called herself Babycakes the first time we dated. Thereafter she used her real name. I'm not sure the woman you met is Kim, however. Kim is not quick to show people her chest because it is virtually flat. She's smoked her tits clean off. Was the Babycakes you met almost flat-chested, extremely thin and wearing a wig? If so, it's Kim and you can do a search for my reviews of her.
The bsw Kim called herself Babycakes the first time we dated. Thereafter she used her real name. I'm not sure the woman you met is Kim, however. Kim is not quick to show people her chest because it is virtually flat. She's smoked her tits clean off. Was the Babycakes you met almost flat-chested, extremely thin and wearing a wig? If so, it's Kim and you can do a search for my reviews of her. ====
Thanks Tommy. It sounds like Kim and Baby Cakes are the same woman. Have you (or anyone else) ever dated the Michelle I wrote about 14 messages down? She was a very enthusiastic, fun date, unlike Shorty A.
Other than my report, I haven't found anything in the record about Michelle :)
The Fantasy Land Massage Parlor building was on fire Tuesday night around 10pm. Strange that a building that's been empty for over ten years goes up in smoke tonight.
Also saw a lot of LE action in East St. Louis. I thought that a patrol car was following me down 15th Street near Exchange. He made a 180 degree in the street turned on his lights and just stopped. Another trooper joined him. They weren't after me but seemed to be sitting up a road block. I spotted several patrol cars speeding along Collinsville Rd. No SW's anywhere. I headed home!
Alex P Keaton
04-02-08, 19:31
The Fantasy Land Massage Parlor building was on fire Tuesday night around 10pm. Strange that a building that's been empty for over ten years goes up in smoke tonight.
I have been at nearby Roxy's for a couple of the previous fires down there, but I missed this one by a day.
The Belleville News-Democrat article has little to add:
Old 'Fantasy Land' strip club in Brooklyn goes up in flames
The abandoned Fantasy Land strip club in Brooklyn was destroyed by fire around midnight Tuesday.
The former club, located off Illinois 3 in the 200 block of Second Street, required several fire departments to extinguish.
No injuries were reported but Illinois 3 was closed for several hours while responders put out the fire.
Taco Hunter
04-03-08, 07:47
I suppose they needed more parking space
http://www.kmov.com/video/topvideo-index.html?nvid=232546
Fantasy Land, another burnt up mess courtesy of our federal government.
How long has it sat empty? How long ago was the last fire that gutted place? How long did the other place next to Platinum sit burnt out and empty? And fucking Buddy's too!
I'll tell ya too fucking long! How can someone getaway with leaving such a fucking mess of things? Well its the federal government, what the fuck do they care.
At least when those place were active businesses Brooklyn got business fees, sales tax, and property tax revenue off of them and they employed some local residents too. Brooklyn got fucked in the ass by the Feds, without lube or even a kiss goodbye.
Totally agree. The honest girls understand and expect you to take your keys. A year or two ago I picked up a bsw on a really cold night. So when we got to the motel, I was going to leave the engine running while I checked in so she could continue to warm up. She said to me, "Take your keys; never leave your keys in the car for anyone!" When dropping her off she gave me some more motherly advice: "Lock your doors and get your ass outta the hood!"
About car keys. There have been times when I had to get out of my car and leave the girl inside while I took care of something. Many times, the girls noticed that I grabbed my keys when I got out. They would say they wanted to listen to the radio while I was gone or pretend to be pissed off because I didn't trust them. Either way, always keep your car keys with you.
I got careless a few days ago and left the keys in my car. The girl didn't steal my car. She unlocked the glove box and hid her drugs in it while I was gone. Imagine my surprise if LE had stopped us and search my car. Do you think that they would believe me if I told them that drugs locked in my glove box weren't mine?
There was a fire at Fantasyland back on 2-20-2008. The most recent fire did a lot of damage. When are they going to get smart and doze the place or just let it burn all the way.
Fantasy Land, another burnt up mess courtesy of our federal government.
How long has it sat empty? How long ago was the last fire that gutted place? How long did the other place next to Platinum sit burnt out and empty? And fucking Buddy's too!
I'll tell ya too fucking long! How can someone getaway with leaving such a fucking mess of things? Well its the federal government, what the fuck do they care.
At least when those place were active businesses Brooklyn got business fees, sales tax, and property tax revenue off of them and they employed some local residents too. Brooklyn got fucked in the ass by the Feds, without lube or even a kiss goodbye.
Member #4228
04-04-08, 16:27
Saw a news report on TV a few months ago about guys who got "trapped" into marriage by a pregnant GF. They later learned the kid was not theirs and got a divorce. They were however forced to pay support on the kids since they had previosly claimed them. These guys were trying to get the law changed claiming that DNA evidence would free them from death row if it proved they were innocent, but it could not prevent them from paying child supprt forever for a kid who was not theirs.
Thsi would suck a lot.Well in my case the worked worked well for me. In MO 2 years and you are signed up for life "support wise" however the other guy has difficulty coming back on me to take away parenting rights. I am obviously not happy with my wife but the children do not in any way deserve to have their rights F'ed up so I plan on continuing as is. It has not been the easiest but it certainly is the choice for me.
Sorry JD, but I'm having a bit of difficulty understanding what you are trying to say. Please elaborate
Well in my case the worked worked well for me. In MO 2 years and you are signed up for life "support wise" however the other guy has difficulty coming back on me to take away parenting rights. I am obviously not happy with my wife but the children do not in any way deserve to have their rights F'ed up so I plan on continuing as is. It has not been the easiest but it certainly is the choice for me.
Tommy, are you sure that you weren't there? You described exactly what happened. I was grabbing for my money, not her. When I got the money, I simply put her out, without her clothes, since she was creating such a ruckus and beating on me to get the money back.
And you're right in saying that it all would have ended anytime that she wished, if she would just refund my money for services that she wouldn't render.
I don't like beating on anyone either. And I never landed a single blow on her. The blood was from her arms and hands that I had to pull and twist in order to get my money. Your saying that she was like glue with my money is very accurate. It was glued so tightly that I had to take gouges of skin with it.
And, as far as arrest, my best guess is that she would fair far worse with the police than I. I just couldn't see her calling them. And if they happened to drive by, my best guess is that she would run like the wind, away from them. My arrest is most unlikely with these girls.
Her only recourse would be to tell the other sw's that she knows that I am bad and not to go with me. Just as my recourse with her is to report her to my fellow mongers.
It seems that the consensus is that I was wrong and everyone is offended to hear of the situation and I should be ashamed of myself. As such, henceforth, I will only report on the pleasant dates that I have. If I have a problem with a girl, I will keep it to myself. And I suspect that many reading all of this will come to the same conclusion.
That's unfortunate, because the sw's will have an advantage over us. They talk to each other and share information on those of us with whom they have problems. We will simply fall into their trap repeatedly because we don't know. And they know that they can do whatever they want with complete immunity because a man has NO RIGHT to stop her from doing as she pleases to him.
I strongly suspect that Bad Boy II is law enforcement. Does anyone know him? Has anyone met him? He does not, at all, have the mind of a monger. He's far too rigid. Too married to the law and unwritten, outdated rules, such as his statement of "Boys never hit girls". Something isn't right with him.
Lust Full has written a number of descriptive reports of dates gone bad and he has never before drawn such negative criticism. I feel badly that I drew attention to his actions in a way that perhaps distorted what actually happened and brought all this criticism on him.
Once again, I am grateful to him for reporting on bad dates, cash & dash attempts, etc. These are things we need to know about. I congratulate him on his candor.
I never meant to imply that I admired him for beating girls up or that he literally beat any of them up. I took his report on Tina to mean that she started yelling and screaming in an attempt to abort the date and leave with his cash without delivering the promised services. The way I pictured it next is that he demanded his cash back and she refused. I can believe that because these girls are like glue with your money. You have to literally pry it away from them with a crowbar to get it back. So I'm picturing that next she refuses and tries to leave with his money at which point he grabs her and tears at her clothes until he finds the money, fending off her blows and perhaps delivering one or two on the way himself. Or perhaps he pinned her down until he got hold of his money. That's not the same as delivering a full-fledged beating. All she had to do to stop any assault on her person was give back the money. I am assuming he pushed her out the door naked precisely because she was fighting the whole way and not being reasonable.
Again, I would not attempt to get physical with these girls, but I don't blame him for doing so. I disagree with Bad Boy's assertion that he has no right to get his money back because it is an illegal transaction to begin with. So what! The laws against victimless crimes are pointless and require a police state to be effectively enforced. Just because the state labels it a crime doesn't change the fact that it is in reality a business deal, a voluntary transaction between two consenting adults. And when one person attempts to abscond with the cash, it is a rip-off and people attempting to con and defraud other people, especially people bigger than them, shouldn't be surprised if they suffer physically for it. It is precisely because it is an illegal transaction that violence ends up being the only effective means of dispute resolution. That's why all black market activities, i.e. drugs, end up being dominated by the most violent individuals or gangs.
That kind of treatment is what these girls get in the hood anyway and that is what they will respect. A few of them might be smart enough to understand that ripping off customers is bad business because it generates bad publicity, but most of them are not that smart. They're only thinking ahead to the next hit of crack.
Again, I'm not a violent person myself, nor do I advocate anyone else beating any of these girls to a senseless pulp. But using a reasonable level of force to procure what is rightfully yours, that I can condone on the part of Lust Full or anyone else
Just wondering JD how you found out. I am sur eit happens far more often then most of us would like to think. Just wondering how you found out. Thinking of my kids. Hey who knows. I am out of town a lot back then.
It has been several years since I have been to Brooklyn. Cruised through there the other day, before the old Fantasyland caught fire the second time. I was quite taken aback. A lot of the old buildings are gone. It looks pretty desolate. There were a couple of very rough looking people walking around, male and female.
I remember having a lot of fun in those old haunts. But I could not make myself stop and check out the old Roxy's. Something told me to just keep on driving.
Are there any bright spots there now? Any one who can share any positive stories about the establishments there, or particular girls?
Wound up in WP that day.
More on that elsewhere.
Remember. Paranoia is just good thinking when they are all out to get you.
Just because you're paranoid doesn't mean they're not out to get you.
Remember. Paranoia is just good thinking when they are all out to get you.
Did a lap around the ESL stroll Sunday. Saw a group of 4 or 5 WSWs. One looked really hot but I don't like to be out numbered so I kept going. Drove down to the gas station and turned around where Uncle Leo always seems to be hanging out. Headed back down towards 64 saw another LEO and, wouldn't you know it, just a little bit more down the road, there were two LEOs sitting right at the intersection.
Boy am I glad I didn't decide to go against my instincts and pick up anyone. Whew.
I just recently started going back to Roxy's during the day shift and have been pleasantly surprised. I hadn't been there in years. The club itself hasn't changed a bit, but the action has.
It has been several years since I have been to Brooklyn. Cruised through there the other day, before the old Fantasyland caught fire the second time. I was quite taken aback. A lot of the old buildings are gone. It looks pretty desolate. There were a couple of very rough looking people walking around, male and female.
I remember having a lot of fun in those old haunts. But I could not make myself stop and check out the old Roxy's. Something told me to just keep on driving.
Are there any bright spots there now? Any one who can share any positive stories about the establishments there, or particular girls?
Wound up in WP that day.
More on that elsewhere.
Remember. Paranoia is just good thinking when they are all out to get you.
Boy am I glad I didn't decide to go against my instincts and pick up anyone. Whew.
I was in the area on Sunday and made a pass through the stroll area. I saw a thick bsw with red hair, and a kinda cute looking bsw with straight shoulder length hair just of CR on Lake. I circled around and came back up Lake. I hadn't seen her when I drove by on CR but there was Gena and she hollered at me and came up to the car. She would have climbed right in if I hadn't kept the passenger side door locked. Gena is a nice gal but I really wasn't interested in her. Told I was scoping things out and started to pull away.
The kinda cute looking bsw came up to the passenger side window next. I had been interested in her from what I had seen from CR. Thin with jeans that showed off a pretty nice looking ass. Straight shoulder length hair and a nice smile. Unfortunately somebody smacked her across the face with something that left one heck of a mark. Basically diagonally from her left eye to the right side of her chin. Part of it was scabbed over but some of it looked pretty raw to me. No way would I be risking even a cbj in that condition. For a second I thought about taking her to Fairmont anyways. With her ass up and face down on the bed so what would it matter anyways.
But my gut instinct was telling me to get going so I politely declined her request for company. I pulled onto to CR and was just past the RR underpass when who do I meet but two of Fairmont's finest. Maybe me (nerdy white guy) having a black gal who is probably a known sw in my car wouldn't have raised any suspicions with them but I'm glad I didn't find out.
Lust Full,
Don't let a couple of negative comments get you down. There are two kinds of posts that are the most valuable. One is descriptive reports of good dates, especially with a new girl that hasn't been reported on before. The second, and equally if not more valuable, is reports of various scams that the girls have tried and who tried them. Cash & Dash is hardly the worst. A few wise men have posted on this thread about how we should carry no more cash on us than we are willing to lose. Far worse than that is being mugged or having your car stolen. Your report about Crystal and her method of stealing cars by running out of the motel room with a guys clothes (and keys) was a great one.
Largely because of your reports like that one on Crystal, whenever I meet a new girl, I now ask her name BEFORE letting her in my car, regardless of her appearance. If she gives a name that has been connected to any rip-off reports on this thread, I immediately drive off. I know this isn't a perfect solution. Sometimes more than one girl uses the same name. Or a girl with a particularly bad rep might start using a new street name or even impersonate a girl with a good rep. But it still beats blind ignorance.
It seems that the consensus is that I was wrong and everyone is offended to hear of the situation and I should be ashamed of myself. As such, henceforth, I will only report on the pleasant dates that I have. If I have a problem with a girl, I will keep it to myself. And I suspect that many reading all of this will come to the same conclusion.
Lust Full for what is worth.
The way I see it, anyone that tries to rip off or steal from a person, deserves what they get. Perhaps they will think twice before doing it again.
The only thing I might have done any different, would have been tossing her stuff in the middle of the road in front of the hotel.
Did the east side drive late this afternoon. Took the usual route, saw 2BSW standing in the rain near CR & Lynch. Very low quality and did not partake. Maybe the 'pickins' will be better tomorrow.
Be safe and happy hunting,
JAMESJ
Did the east side drive late this afternoon. Took the usual route, saw 2BSW standing in the rain near CR & Lynch. Very low quality and did not partake. Maybe the 'pickins' will be better tomorrow.
Be safe and happy hunting,
JAMESJ
I went by around 3 pm, red unmarked was just setting up by 9th/exchange, so kept on going
Thanks for the encouraging words, Tommy.
And they will say any name that comes to mind. There is not a lot of point in asking. That's why I include pictures. Its harder to change their appearance.
However, apparently a majority of the men here think that the girls should be allowed to get away with anything, and we have no right to try to stop them. "Boys just don't hit girls".
It is that thinking that encourages the women to rip us off. After all, they have the right to rip us off, but if we stop them, we are breaking the law and subject to prosecution AND community censure from our fellow mongers.
Because of that, they try a rip off everytime. Then, along comes someone (like me) who won't allow it. They think they have a right, so it takes a great deal of force to stop them. The more they get used to doing it, the more force it takes to stop them. They will stop at nothing, and so will I. I'm bigger and stronger, so I WILL prevail, to their detriment.
Its all a situation that could be avoided if no man allowed it in the first place. Shortly, they wouldn't even try it. The ones that don't want to give up the goods in exchange for the money wouldn't even bother to come out after awhile. The consequences would be assured. But the gentlemen here would much rather get ripped off.
By the way, I'm one of the quiet ones. I don't like a lot of ruckus, and I speak softly and politely and am very gentle by nature. If the girl is nice, things stay that way during the encounter. And I am glad, even eager, to pay for good service. And that happens MOST of the time.
But if she calls herself trying to rip me off, the story is an entirely different one. As they say, I "flip the script". As nice and polite and quiet I was becomes the degree to which I become decidedly impolite.
You guys who claim to love the street walkers so much and don't want to see anything happen to them, my suggestion to you is that you don't let them get in the habit of ripping people off. They just may encounter me one day. You definitely want to stop them before I must because, as you have seen from my previous posts, it is not pretty.
Lust Full,
Don't let a couple of negative comments get you down. There are two kinds of posts that are the most valuable. One is descriptive reports of good dates, especially with a new girl that hasn't been reported on before. The second, and equally if not more valuable, is reports of various scams that the girls have tried and who tried them. Cash & Dash is hardly the worst. A few wise men have posted on this thread about how we should carry no more cash on us than we are willing to lose. Far worse than that is being mugged or having your car stolen. Your report about Crystal and her method of stealing cars by running out of the motel room with a guys clothes (and keys) was a great one.
Largely because of your reports like that one on Crystal, whenever I meet a new girl, I now ask her name BEFORE letting her in my car, regardless of her appearance. If she gives a name that has been connected to any rip-off reports on this thread, I immediately drive off. I know this isn't a perfect solution. Sometimes more than one girl uses the same name. Or a girl with a particularly bad rep might start using a new street name or even impersonate a girl with a good rep. But it still beats blind ignorance.
Thanks for the encouraging words, Tommy.
And they will say any name that comes to mind. There is not a lot of point in asking. That's why I include pictures. Its harder to change their appearance.
However, apparently a majority of the men here think that the girls should be allowed to get away with anything, and we have no right to try to stop them. "Boys just don't hit girls".
It is that thinking that encourages the women to rip us off. After all, they have the right to rip us off, but if we stop them, we are breaking the law and subject to prosecution AND community censure from our fellow mongers.
Because of that, they try a rip off everytime. Then, along comes someone (like me) who won't allow it. They think they have a right, so it takes a great deal of force to stop them. The more they get used to doing it, the more force it takes to stop them. They will stop at nothing, and so will I. I'm bigger and stronger, so I WILL prevail, to their detriment.
Its all a situation that could be avoided if no man allowed it in the first place. Shortly, they wouldn't even try it. The ones that don't want to give up the goods in exchange for the money wouldn't even bother to come out after awhile. The consequences would be assured. But the gentlemen here would much rather get ripped off.
By the way, I'm one of the quiet ones. I don't like a lot of ruckus, and I speak softly and politely and am very gentle by nature. If the girl is nice, things stay that way during the encounter. And I am glad, even eager, to pay for good service. And that happens MOST of the time.
But if she calls herself trying to rip me off, the story is an entirely different one. As they say, I "flip the script". As nice and polite and quiet I was becomes the degree to which I become decidedly impolite.
You guys who claim to love the street walkers so much and don't want to see anything happen to them, my suggestion to you is that you don't let them get in the habit of ripping people off. They just may encounter me one day. You definitely want to stop them before I must because, as you have seen from my previous posts, it is not pretty.I have to agree,if we allow these girls to get away with anything,then we are only allowing them to continue.THEN, someone will get hurt,i don't like it anymore than the next guy,but it will happen,then,we will have all kinds of LE breathing down our necks.for now,there is a fine balance of cat and mouse,lets not screw it up.
I can't believe nobody has posted on this forum in a week. Surely there must be some SW action on the east side worth talking about?
Was out earlier tonight and spotted crazy Heather on Exchange by the tracks. Apparently she had been gone the last few months or so. She claims she was staying with her Mom and then came back to the hood and had been staying at Dewey's (Discreet).
The usual Heather notel date. She looked sexy as usual but had some serious BO issues. Fortunately when we got to the room, she wanted to take a shower and I readily consented. After the shower she smelled good but her clothes were still a source of odor over in the corner.
She gave a brief and unenthusiastic BJ as is typical for her, but since it was just a preliminary for me, I didn't mind. Then on to DATY to cum and then mish. Over all a decent date. Her babbling wasn't too bad; she was fairly subdued.
Disclaimer: Heather is not the most reliable source of information. I asked her who was living at Discreet these days and she said just two girls: Anita and a blond named Tammy. I'm not familiar with either of them.
....but [Heather's] clothes were still a source of odor over in the corner. ====
When I saw her last summer, I gingerly asked if she knew where a laundromat was in the area. I wasn't trying to be mean but genuinely helpful to her. She said she did, but her clothes were dirty then, too. I guess it's the drugs that affect them. I gotta wonder if crystal meth is her poison.
She's a cute one, though. Although, I thought her head was just a size or two smaller in comparison with the rest of her body--not sure if that's a result of substantial drug use or not. Her breasts are great, though, and nice thighs. Hard to beat her breasts and thighs. - Rosco
Had a chance to have an encounter with shannon. About 30? Little blonde. She was at the bookstore in brooklyn with another guy.
As to my experiance, had a very oral time with her, very willing, and likes oral. Not bad on skills, about a 7, looks 7, price 6, I forgot to get change, my bad, sorry guys. She was a little drunk, ok, a lot drunk. Maybe thats her thingwould not let me take a pic. But I have seen her before.
The bookstore is always a safe place to take a girl, the staff does not ask too many questions.
It's rare to find an East St. Louis girl area girl working in Brooklyn. Things must have really been slow on her regular stroll.
Had a chance to have an encounter with shannon. About 30? Little blonde. She was at the bookstore in brooklyn with another guy.
As to my experiance, had a very oral time with her, very willing, and likes oral. Not bad on skills, about a 7, looks 7, price 6, I forgot to get change, my bad, sorry guys. She was a little drunk, ok, a lot drunk. Maybe thats her thingwould not let me take a pic. But I have seen her before.
The bookstore is always a safe place to take a girl, the staff does not ask too many questions.
The original post said she was there with a guy. Probably a date picked her up on the ESL stroll and took her to the Brooklyn bookstore to use a preview booth. It's cheaper than a motel room. I doubt she would have been working the Brooklyn streets just because it has been so dead there lately. I guess the Brooklyn cops must have tightened up on the SWs like they apparently did on the street dealers.
It's rare to find an East St. Louis girl area girl working in Brooklyn. Things must have really been slow on her regular stroll.
It's rare to find an East St. Louis girl area girl working in Brooklyn. Things must have really been slow on her regular stroll.Very true gents, I picked her up after she had dated the guy that brought her to the bookstore. Having said that, the bookstore is still a safe place to take a girl to, not very far from east st. Lou, and way cheaper than a notel.
How much does it cost to get a preview booth at the bookstore?
The original post said she was there with a guy. Probably a date picked her up on the ESL stroll and took her to the Brooklyn bookstore to use a preview booth. It's cheaper than a motel room. I doubt she would have been working the Brooklyn streets just because it has been so dead there lately. I guess the Brooklyn cops must have tightened up on the SWs like they apparently did on the street dealers.
Last time I got a preview booth was a long time ago back when the place was in a trailer. Then it was $6 a person, so $12 for a couple. But depending on who was working you could sometimes get away with buying just one admission.
The cheaper alternative is to take a girl into one of the regular video arcade booths. You don't have to buy admission to those; you just have to feed dollar bills into the slot to keep the machine running and the "occupied" light lit outside the booth. If you don't, eventually an attendant will bang on the door and yell at you to put money in.
The problem with the arcade booths, however, is that boy-girl action is the exception. It's mostly a gay scene. And you have to be careful to select a booth that doesn't have glory holes if you want privacy.
Back in the trailer days one could usually find a local girl or two working those booths. The management made them stay in the section that allowed "standing" in the hallways. I've been there a couple of times more recently and didn't see any girls at all. I'm not sure they allow them in anymore.
How much does it cost to get a preview booth at the bookstore?
Mookie1733
05-01-08, 14:28
Hello all!
I had the chance last nite to visit the stroll and @ 6:30pm the was pleanty of ladies to choose from!! What every your taste is you could have found it last nite!
Gus
Hello all!
I had the chance last nite to visit the stroll and @ 6:30pm the was pleanty of ladies to choose from!! What every your taste is you could have found it last nite!
Gus
So who did you pick up? In what general area where these ladies?
Willy Word
05-04-08, 17:18
It has been pathetic out here. Friday and Saturday was basically dead from 9pm - 2am. And the ones that have been out have been the sorriest of all. Times are bad around 9th, lynch, lake, gross, winstanly, 13th, etc... right now. Lots of people have been gettin robbed lately to. Its like everyone in the streets are real desperate right now and no quality sw's are comin around. By the way you might want to avoid a skinny bsw, (looks about 18-20, with hair a little less then shoulder length, and has a mark on her face, however she is kinda cute) she stays in a house that is back near gross and 17th.... if you go into the lot with that building there, there is a single house back there that she stays at with one other guy. Don't ever go in there cause she's been trying to get people in there and rob them all weekend. She was riding with me this weekend and I dropped her off and she pulled her gun out on me. She was so high she forgot what she was doin... I actually told her we don't even need to take it there, I got no money, but I'll go get some and come back.... she got out with the gun in her hand and said "alright well go get it and make sure u come back"...lol. True story. She was to high to even know what she was doin. But don't go back there because any of the males back there won't be high and are just going to take whatever they can from you.
Drove the east side route about 6:45 pm. What has happened to the selection? Only 2bsw, about 2-3 in qaulity. I saw several dealers and wan-a-be pimps. You know it's bad when the sponsers out number the workers! LE was not even in the area. Is it me or has the stroll moved elsewhere.
Be carefull and happy hunting.
JamesJ
I saw Blond Ashley, not the one known as Shorty A, near 11th St and Lake Ave. around 5pm on Wednesday. She had her hair braided and was wearing dark clothes. She was getting into a blue car driven by another girl. She still looked real nice.
Drove the east side route about 6:45 pm. What has happened to the selection? Only 2bsw, about 2-3 in qaulity. I saw several dealers and wan-a-be pimps. You know it's bad when the sponsers out number the workers! LE was not even in the area. Is it me or has the stroll moved elsewhere.
Be carefull and happy hunting.
JamesJ
Taco Hunter
05-16-08, 12:23
Picked her up wednesday evening on lynch. she said she had been in jail this whole time. she has put some weight on but said it will be gone fast and it has made her boobs really large. I did not have much time so i opted for a little drive and BJ. either she was really drunk or horny but she attacked it with reckless abandon had I not finally came i think she would have suck my balls right out through the shaft. dropped her off where I found her
Monday evening around 8 PM I saw a wsw, average build, with reddish hair at CR and Lynch. From the pictures posted by Lustfull, she appeared to be Crystal, so I passed her by. I turned on Exchange hoping to find Shannon at Exchange and 4th. There she was, talking to Doug, Cheese's brother. I drove back down CR on our way to the motel so I could have Shannon verify if the sw there was indeed Crystal. It was.
Then off to the motel for a nice date. A little kissing & fondling, little BJ, a little DATY and a lot of fucking. Shannon can make her pussy really tight. It was great. Afterwards she asked me to take her to the gas station up the street from Relax so she could buy a sandwich and beer. Then I dropped her off back on Exchange.
Shannon has been in contact with Jennifer and told me that she is doing well. Jennifer successfully completed rehab,is staying with family and will be working as a dental assistant. Much as I would love to see Jennifer again, I'm hoping that I never will and that she stays clean and away from the hood.
Had some time to play Thursday
Decided to give the clubs in Brooklyn one more try.
Bad decision. Went to PT's was asked for a $10.00 cover, drinks were $2.00
Said No thanks and left.
Went across the street to Roxy's. Same thing. Same result.
Am I missing something here? I know everybody says the economy is sour and all, but how does jacking up the door fee help? I don't drink, usually only order a Diet Coke when I have to. Just doesn't make sense for me.
Don't know if I will ever go back.
Am I just being a cheap old bastard?
I suppose it depends on how you look at it.
The $10 cover charge at any of the PT's owned clubs will get you a ticket for free admission at their other clubs. So I paid $10 at PT's Brooklyn and then can walk across the street to Roxy's and get in for free.
Also the drinks at PT's are cheaper than those at Hollywood, the other club I go to on a regular basis. Plus I don't get hassled to buy drinks at PT's like I do at Hollywood. One of the last time I was at Hollywood really pissed me off. I had been there for several hours spending money, buying drinks for several dancers, have a great time. Was about ready to leave and was waiting for a certain dancer to get done with her stage set. Bob R. shows up and its "buy a drink or get thrown out".
I've never had that happen at the PT's clubs. But the last couple times I've been to PT's Brooklyn, I've been less than impressed with the talent. So I keep going to the Hollywood and just make sure to leave before Bob shows up in the evening.
Had some time to play Thursday
Decided to give the clubs in Brooklyn one more try.
Bad decision. Went to PT's was asked for a $10.00 cover, drinks were $2.00
Said No thanks and left.
Went across the street to Roxy's. Same thing. Same result.
Am I missing something here? I know everybody says the economy is sour and all, but how does jacking up the door fee help? I don't drink, usually only order a Diet Coke when I have to. Just doesn't make sense for me.
Don't know if I will ever go back.
Am I just being a cheap old bastard?Yes, you are a cheap old bastard. Compared to strips clubs in other states, the eastside is an absolutely bargain. The permissiveness is hard to beat, too. I can't comprehend how you can think that a $10 cover and $2 drinks is out of line. These are businesses, not charities. Don't worry, though, I am positive your patronage won't be missed.
Alex P Keaton
05-24-08, 19:46
Thursday
$10.00 cover, drinks were $2.00
Am I missing something here? I know everybody says the economy is sour and all, but how does jacking up the door fee help?
The reason the cover charge is $10 at Roxy's on Thursday is that it is $1.99 drink night. Domestic bottled beers are ordinarily $5.25 and the cheapest mixed drinks are ordinarily $4.50. If you drink four drinks or so during your stay, you come out ahead.
I don't drink, usually only order a Diet Coke when I have to. Just doesn't make sense for me.
Don't know if I will ever go back.
Am I just being a cheap old bastard?
In my opinion, yes, but I am not a non-drinker like you. Maybe you should come back on a day when the cover charge is $6, and then get one of the girls to give you a free pass for your next visit.
BigDaddyTrucker
05-27-08, 02:36
Had some time to play Thursday
Decided to give the clubs in Brooklyn one more try.
Bad decision. Went to PT's was asked for a $10.00 cover, drinks were $2.00
Said No thanks and left.
Went across the street to Roxy's. Same thing. Same result.
Am I missing something here? I know everybody says the economy is sour and all, but how does jacking up the door fee help? I don't drink, usually only order a Diet Coke when I have to. Just doesn't make sense for me.
Don't know if I will ever go back.
Am I just being a cheap old bastard?
$10 bucks wow. In Springfield the Dejavu is $11 and no extras. When was the last time you went to a movie? Ticket prices are around $10. Buy a DVD $14-24. Jeez $10 for a couple of hours with naked women and you say thats too much money?
When I was in town on Thursday, before I met Kim on the south side, I met Jennifer on the east side. Jennifer is not a prostitute. She's just a regular gal I happened to see at a motel on the east side. This is not any of the Jennifer's we've discussed here before.
Anyway, while I was checking out the conditions of the motel, Jennifer walked out her door. I excused myself from speaking with the motel manager who was showing me around, saying I think I know that girl from high school.
I'd never seen Jennifer before, but struck up a conversation with her. A couple minutes later, I was getting a blow job from her for $40. Mind you, she's not a prostitute, but a little cash helps lube the encounter sometimes, I guess.
For some reason Jennifer did not want to have full-service sex, saying she was on her period. I said I didn't mind and doubled my offer to $80. Still a no-go. So I just continued getting a blow, and kissed her breasts. Very nice lady. A sweet woman. 28 years old or so, good average figure, 7.8 face, good enthusiastic sucker.
But for some reason, I didn't come--probably because I forgot the KY lube in the car. As I've mentioned before, I prefer KY-lubed handjobs to bj's. Anyway, I only paid her $30 instead of $40 because of not coming. She didn't seem to mind too much, and invited me to come back again the next day.
KC Questor
05-28-08, 20:56
A couple minutes later, I was getting a blow job from her for $40. Mind you, she's not a prostitute, but a little cash helps lube the encounter sometimes, I guess.
Where I come from we call that a "duck".
Alex P Keaton
05-29-08, 19:50
Belleville police release tape of officer letting East St. Louis cop go free
News-Democrat
BELLEVILLE --City leaders today released to the News-Democrat an audio recording of the Sept. 22 incident in which Belleville Police Sgt. Mark Eschmann released East St. Louis Police Detective Ricky Perry after police said they found him drunk, asleep and armed behind the wheel of his unmarked squad car.
The 10-minute recording starts with the anonymous call to police about a man asleep at the wheel of a car at a red light, and it ends with Eschmann telling a police operator, "So I guess this incident never happened."
Also on the recording, Eschmann can be heard expressing frustration to a police operator and deliberating aloud about what to do with Perry.
He had the operator contact East St. Louis Police Chief Michael Baxton, whose voice can be heard on the recording.
Eschmann later told the operator, "A whole bunch of white people with white shirts from East St. Louis showed up and took (Perry) away."
He told the operator Baxton had been at the scene and had said he would "take care of it."
Belleville Police Chief William Clay said Eschmann has been disciplined but still works for the police department. Baxton has said Perry also was disciplined. Neither chief would comment on the nature of the discipline. Perry was not charged.
Eschmann and Perry couldn't be reached for comment today.
Alex P Keaton
05-29-08, 19:57
County will be checking for drunk drivers, seatbelt violators
News-Democrat
Deputies with the St. Clair County Sheriff's Department will be out conducting roadside safety checks Friday (tomorrow).
The checkpoints will be set up in the Cahokia, Centreville and Alorton area.
Officers will be on the lookout for drunk drivers, seatbelt violations and any other safety related road violations (like receiving road head).
DeadDead22
05-30-08, 21:53
Went by the Brooklyn clubs at about 1:30. Generally stick to Roxy's and PT's.
Started at Roxy's. Saw only four girls, only one was really cute, a black girl with great cans. I was the only customer in there, so I decided to check out PT's.
PT's was a little more hopping. Saw about eight girls in there. Three cute ones, and a lot of "eh" type girls. This place is always a little expensive, and the cute girls were occupied with regulars, so I went back to Roxy's. Saw one probabl (cute, thick brunette, huge ass), but she was cozied up with another regular, so I split for Washington Park. Oh, and saw one BSW, medium build, on Rte 3 before I got to Brooklyn via the McKinley Bridge.
Continued in the Washington Park Forum...
Went by the Discreet Hotel and it had it lights on with cars in the parking lot. Does anyone know if this place is back in business?
Zero Cool07
05-31-08, 16:23
Hey does anyone know what the deal is with the Peek-a-Boo Club that is located between Roxys and Bottoms Up? Kinda by SnL Rub. Looks pretty strange to me.
Alex P Keaton
06-01-08, 11:12
I gave a ride to an Amanda. I believe she was the one who was previously described on this forum as the longer-blonde-haired, cuter-faced of the area Amandas. However, she now has a short haircut that makes her resemble crazy little Heather from a distance. My interaction with her was brief because -- I find this sort of funny -- a new pimp was trying to recruit her by offering a shower and clean clothes, trying to seize on the opportunity created by her old pimp having busted her in the nose. I was merely their transportation from the hill to the motel.
Alex, I know you probably can't really tell us this but sometimes I read your posts and can't help but wonder "how does he wind up in these situations?" lol
Taco Hunter
06-02-08, 20:21
on my way home today I see and old face back by the tracks again .....yes it was jennifer she looked to have a little more weight but it was jennifer I did not have time to stop or I would have
I can't say that it totally surprises me to hear that Jennifer is back on the stroll. It is a hard habit and life to get out of for the girls.
Part of me was hoping to never to see her again, but part of me missed her too.
About two weeks ago, Ashley told me that this Jennifer was dead. I thought that she got her Jennifer's mixed up but she described the right girl.
Anyway I'm glad that she is still with us! I always hoped that the next time I saw her that it was not on the stroll.
KS
I can't say that it totally surprises me to hear that Jennifer is back on the stroll. It is a hard habit and life to get out of for the girls.
Part of me was hoping to never to see her again, but part of me missed her too.
I'm definitely glad to know that Jennifer is alive. I know for awhile Shannon was convinced that she was dead. Told me about dreams she was having about Jennifer (and Melissa) and a lot of stuff, basically broke down on me the last time I picked her up. That was quite awhile ago, I guess. Probably a couple months anyway.
I had hoped the report that Jennifer had gone through rehab and doing good was correct. Guess its easy to fall back into the habit though.
Read my post in the St Louis Streetwalker forum for my post about doing recon on MLK and the Southside Stroll.
After checking out MLK and the SSS, I continued on to the East side, it was about 10:00ish. I made the loop down Exchange seeing nothing. I thought 'wasted trip' but when I turned down 9th street, I found not 1, not 2 but 3 SW's walking. The first one I saw was Crystal. I have had the pleasure of meeting her several times and each time received an outstanding BBBJCIMWS. So, I thought I would look for something new.
Next I say a BSW, about a 6 on the body and a 4 on the face. Was dressed in a black and white dress, she made too much of a scene when I drove by, yelling and waving.
Next I saw a young blonde SW wearing a short jean shirt and a yellow top. I looped around and saw up close she was very cute, but maybe too young. While my little head was yelling to stop and pick her up, my big head won out and I passed.
Then there was another one of those I do not know what to think. I was on ninth heading towards Rio, just past the bar on the left, there was a very tall black person, had a very nice ass, oh and it was bare. She/he had pants pull up to just below her ass. Looking at her I could not tell if she was she or a feminine man. Cute, but I did not care to find out.
On my way out I saw one more SW. She was short blonde hair and looked like she was in her mid to late 40's. Looked like she had been road hard and put away wet.
So, I made my way back to Missouri and to the MLK. Check my post there for the rest of the story.
Knucklebuck
06-05-08, 19:26
She/he had pants pull up to just below her ass. Looking at her I could not tell if she was she or a feminine man. Cute, but I did not care to find out.
Man...I have passed on 2 smoking BSW because at the very, very last minute I got the feeling that it could be a dude. Maybe deep down I don't want to date a black gal?
I've only dated 1 BSW. She was really young and then like 9 years later, I picked up an older black gal and it turns out it was the same damn girl!
Alex P Keaton
06-08-08, 20:16
Alex, I know you probably can't really tell us this but sometimes I read your posts and can't help but wonder "how does he wind up in these situations?" lol
Oh, and there's always another chapter. Within a couple of days, that particular pimp had the police called on him by his bottom ho (http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=bottom+ho), who had been with him for three years, and he got put out of his motel room. I gave him half a pizza the next time I saw him wandering the streets.
DeadDead22
06-09-08, 20:00
I decided to go into S&L Rub (a notorious clip joint, I know) about a month ago to peruse the over-priced menu, when I saw one of the masseuses what a white girl named Melissa. Anyways, she kinda reminded me of Gianna Michaels (the porn star). She has a banging body (big tits, good hips, small waist, great ass), and has a faint resemblance to the afore mentioned lady. I went in and got the "latex glove" rub and we talked about pricing. She's god damned expensive! She said HJ was $1.6, CBJ was $2.6, and CFS was $3.6! Way out my price range... but to level with you, if I had $400, I'd be on her like ticks on a deer. She is really hot! So, any of you richer mongers out there wanna splurge, you know the place. I think she said she works there four or five days outta the week.
Be safe out there!
-T
Saw a BSW on exchange she sometimes wheres a hat, strong legs and a very round bubble butt, anyone know her is she worth a look.
Knucklebuck
06-18-08, 16:25
dang, you guys seen this?
From the Belleville News-Democrat
Police seek public's help in cold case involving missing woman
BELLEVILLE -- Belleville Police are seeking help from the public to locate a 50-year-old Belleville woman who has been missing since November.
Janet L. Tillman, of 9501 West Main St., is known to frequent the area of 9th Street and Exchange Avenue in East St. Louis and the Route 203 truck stop in Troy.
Tillman's last known contact with family members was Oct. 28, and police have been investigating her missing person report since Nov. 5.
Police have looked into all the leads in Tillman's case, and are asking members of the public to come forward if they have any additional information.
Those with information can contact the police at 234-1212, or make an anonymous call to Crime Stoppers at 1-866-371-8477.
© 2007 Belleville News-Democrat and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved. http://www.belleville.com
Alex P Keaton
06-18-08, 18:57
dang, you guys seen this?
Here is an updated version of the article that adds her physical description, which helps, and her criminal record, which is what we would have assumed.
Police seek public's help in cold case involving missing woman
BELLEVILLE -- Belleville Police are seeking help from the public to locate a 50-year-old Belleville woman who has been missing since November.
Police began investigating the disappearance of Janet L. T******, of 9*** West Main St., after family members had not heard from her for several days.
T****** is a black woman with medium skin tone; 5 feet, 7 inches tall; 185 pounds; and wears glasses. She has a scar on her neck from a trachea tube and a scar on her left eyebrow.
She was last seen getting into a vehicle with an unidentified person Oct. 28, the date of her last known contact with family members, near Ninth Street and Exchange Avenue in East St. Louis. She has also been known to frequent the Route 203 truck stop in Troy.
T****** also has a criminal record that includes prostitution convictions.
Police have looked into all the leads in T******'s case, and are asking members of the public to come forward if they have any additional information.
Those with information can contact the police at 234-1212, or make an anonymous call to Crime Stoppers at 1-866-371-8477.
Is there a sw strip in Belleville?
If so, can you tell me where?
Thanks
Coming back from Granite City, I drove by Roxie's and was surprised at the new clubs open since I'd been over there ( about 2-3 years ).
Any feedback on them?
Got the look from one nice tall gal on Rte 3 on the way back to ESL but had another guy with me and couldn't stop.
Drove down Exchange by the tracks Sat. night around 12:30 hoping to find Shannon or good ol' Jennifer. Instead I met a young bsw named Okima [sp?], pronounced Okeema. She is very thin and was wearing baggy pants and baggy t-shirt, very short hair in corn rows, so I cracked the window to ask her name and make sure she is a she. She has a feminine face, pretty but with some blemishes and a dainty little definitely female voice. So I let her in and off to Fairmont. I ask how much for head and pussy and she says $30. So far, so good.
In the room she promptly strips asking if I want her shirt off too. Why do the black gals always ask that? Of course I want her completely naked. That's one of the main reasons I spend extra to get a room and am careful to only pick up girls with the body type I'm into. I want to see her entire naked body and play with the titties as well as the pussy. She is very thin, no body fat at all, but that's the way I like it. She does not look emaciated or bony like the bsw Kim, just firm all over with good abdominal definition. The minus is that not only is she thin but she has no hips and no tits at all. Between her square shoulders, flat chest (nice nipples though) and narrow straight hips, her body resembles that of a young boy more than that of a woman. But a woman she definitely is with a very nice and shaved pussy (shaved a while ago with quite a bit of stubble).
She proceeds right away to give me very good head. She worked it very well and even deep-throated me a couple of times (I'm not that big so it's not hard to do). Then she mounted me and rode my dick for a while. Then I opted to put her on her back, licked her pussy a bit and then banged her. It seems to me that getting them excited with some pussy-licking makes the pussy tighter for fucking. Anyway, her pussy felt great and I came in short order as I usually do when I'm with a new girl.
All throughout Okima was accommodating and patient, definitely a good date and definitely worth more than $30. So I gave her $40. Drove her back to where I picked her up. A friendly and pleasant girl. She claims she was Melissa's significant other up to the time of her death. Of course, Shannon makes the same claim for herself. Whatever. Says she lives in a gray house on the alley off of 4th.
I decided to go into S&L Rub (a notorious clip joint, I know) about a month ago to peruse the over-priced menu, when I saw one of the masseuses what a white girl named Melissa. Anyways, she kinda reminded me of Gianna Michaels (the porn star). She has a banging body (big tits, good hips, small waist, great ass), and has a faint resemblance to the afore mentioned lady. I went in and got the "latex glove" rub and we talked about pricing. She's god damned expensive! She said HJ was $1.6, CBJ was $2.6, and CFS was $3.6! Way out my price range... but to level with you, if I had $400, I'd be on her like ticks on a deer. She is really hot! So, any of you richer mongers out there wanna splurge, you know the place. I think she said she works there four or five days outta the week.
Be safe out there!
-TI've had two sessions with "Melissa". The first, probably a couple years ago, was latex glove hand release for just over one bill. The second, a few months after that, I got the treatment you did. Obviously she was the cutest girl there at the time, but had a really rotten attitude. I got the feeling the prices were so high because she just hates servicing men, which is odd seeing as how that is what she does for a living. Anyways, on my second trip back with her, after hearing the higher insane pricing, I just got a $60 back rub and left. Btw, on other occasions in the last 6 months, there has been a cuter white chic there than Melissa, I don't remember her name, but the other hot white chic gives BBBJ CIM for one twenty (total price, includes room fee). This chic usually looks high, has brown curly hair and has nice firm B cups.
But to my main point here, for $400, with a little shopping, you can get two girls just as cute, but with much better attitudes, that actually enjoy their work.
One last note here- I've spent some really good time with CJ at "thunder road" a couple times lately. One bill in the back for HJ and I could, and did, feel her everywhere. She also likes kissing, which I don't normally dig with strippers, but thought was awesome with her.
Clyde Dnls
06-23-08, 01:40
I have been workin' my game for about two years now, and have been enjoying myself. I just found out about this website thru the RFT article from a couple of weeks ago. I thank everyone for their info on all the girls.
Anyways. I was out looking last night after having no luck finding swingers at Larrys theatre, my other vice I suppose, . When I drove the full loop of CR, Exhange and St Clair Aves. , I saw a few BSW girls on the side roads off CR, all acting irratic and cracked out, one on crutches even. Only one WSW over there not sure of her name, didn't stop, but she looked ok brown long hair kinda moon faced, walking with a bm. So I headed down exchange where I found 2wsw and a BSW who was standing in the middle of the road trying to get hit. The white girls turned out to be jenna 20-something blonde slim body and her mom older brunette. I picked jenna up barefoot after she separated from her pimp. She wanted me to park around the corner from her house, ut instead I took her to one of my spots where we discussed price she wanted 100 for half and half in the car, I told her no way, she got mad so I told her we could negociate or she could take a walk she calmed down when she realized she did not have any shoes on. We settled on 50 for covered h/h in the back of my SUV with the seats folded down. She won't let me finger her hole but lets me rub her clit while I get some not so great head, then we moved to mish, then facing each other both sitting up then she rides me cowgirl. Once we fininsh and I am cleaning up I notice she was ragging, so I had to pitch the towel out the door then she goes, oh yeah I forgot to tell you I started my period, I was like yeah I noticed. We clean up and I start to pull away when she asks me to take her to buy some crack I declined but said I would drop her off somewhere but then she was on her own, she said take me back to where you got me.
So on my way home I stopped to clean out the car and guess what I found on the floor between the front seat and rear seat, none other than 30 of what I had paid her it must have fallen out of her bra when she climbed over the seatback. I guess next time I see her I will owe her some extra.
Again thanks for all your info.
There is a white girl there, who was worked there for years, you goes my Maria. Also expensive as you mention, but cute and if you come out of the club next door drunk with the little' guy doing your thinking. Well you know the rest. But a few years ago, her younger sister was working there and she went by Melissa. I wonder if its the same girl.
Check this out if you haven't had much luck on the stroll lately.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5eSflbxXeoo
Country Boy #3
07-07-08, 00:23
I found Shannon Friday evening on the north end of Exchange. She had a pretty nasty black eye, but she swore it was her own fault. She said she fell down. I already had a room, so that's where we went. As always, she was fun. It was nice to see a familiar face. It seems like lately, every time I go over there I see different girls.
Country Boy #3
07-07-08, 00:39
I found Trudy Saturday morning around 7am near the tracks on Exchange. I took her back to the room. She's an older gal, probably around 50. A nice gal, but a bit chatty. She claims she doesn't do any drugs. Just drinks whiskey. She says she only does this every once and a while. She wanted a hundred, but settled for 60.
Esl Stroll
07-11-08, 20:19
Jennifer is indeed back. She is by far the best overall provider on the stroll. I have been seeing her almost exclusively for over 3 years. I was really both glad and sad to see her back though. The abuse she has taken for Moe (aka Cheese) over the years has been unbelievable. Though she is not a SW, she is a prostitute and a damn good one. She is sweet and kind and will not rip you off. She does not like to do fs if she is on her p but she gives great BJ. She has some scars from the abuse but otherwise I find her extemely attractive and talented. Treat her well and she will treat you well. She remembers her regulars and will talk with you about your personal life if you want, and she remembers what you talk about. Of all the girls, if Jen is around, I will take her over anyone.
Ashley (short ashley) is definately preggers again. Ashley if you get to know her can be more enthusiastic, but she is definately more interested in her crack pipe. BTW. She always has it on her.
Ashely. She is a bit newer, been around about a year now. She is quite good looking and not a bad BJ or fs. She thinks she is something though and trys to charge 2. 0 for fs. 4 for BJ. You can talk her down a bit, but not much for fs.
Crystal. Not bad looking for the most part, she is about 35. 40 long red hair. She has a bit of a flabby belly and she pads her bra to make it look like she is bigger. She likes her crack too. I had some problems understanding what she was saying as she has a bit of a speech problem and I am half deaf anyways. She will do anal as well as BJ fs. My only problem with her is that she likes to go back to her place at the Royal in ESL. She will slip out of the room several times to go get her crack and whatever else she has the money for and the last time I dated her she took almost 45 minutes to be ready. Worth the time if you can deal with her BS.
I have dated a lot of the girls down there in the last several years including Patti (tall skinny long haired blonde), Mellissa, Kendra (she is a sweetie, but has a bit of a smell, but again her price is right. She'll do everything for. 5), Lori (red hair about 40 used to work at Chameleon and old CMOES. I like Lori but she is getting a bit 'used' looking). Someone mentioned the BSW that looks a bit like Halle Barrey, she is a total rip off don't even try to get with her). Shauna, Gena are still around though later at night.
Glad I found this site. I'll keep ya'll posted on my escapades.
Esl Stroll
07-12-08, 13:31
This is my first post here. I am glad that I found this site. It is true that Jennifer is back. I am both delighted and saddened. She had left (Cheese) to go back to live with her mom for about 3 months. Cheese is a notorious abuser. He has gone so far as to smash a shotgun into her face, slammed her head into a tree, etc. I don't know why she puts up with it. She is an outstanding fs provider. Very nice, sincere and she will never ruo. She is great at BJ, but recommend a room for best service. I have known her for over 3 years and never had a complaint.
Does Jennifer run an ad? Good way to contact?
Beemerguy
This is my first post here. I am glad that I found this site. It is true that Jennifer is back. I am both delighted and saddened. She had left (Cheese) to go back to live with her mom for about 3 months. Cheese is a notorious abuser. He has gone so far as to smash a shotgun into her face, slammed her head into a tree, etc. I don't know why she puts up with it. She is an outstanding fs provider. Very nice, sincere and she will never ruo. She is great at BJ, but recommend a room for best service. I have known her for over 3 years and never had a complaint.
Does Jennifer run an ad? Good way to contact?
Beemerguy
No, she doesn't have 'an ad' and of course, we don't ever want to metion that to any SW, since their prices would triple
Never mention CL, 'never heard of it ;)
Jennifer's name is mention numerous times on here, just search and you shall find good info,descriptions,etc
Jennifer was pretty good at keeping up with a cell phone. She probably has one now.
KS
Does Jennifer run an ad? Good way to contact?
Beemerguy
Last night, 1 am, on Collinsville Rd, just west of the tavern. This gal took me by surprise she was so good looking, looked like she should have been hanging on the Landing, not in the ghetto. Light brown, shoulder length hair, medium build-not fat or skinny, just healthy looking. Pretty face and what appeared to be C or D size banana shaped titties. Wearing jeans and what may have been a button top. For a moment I thought it might be a set up.
The girl, in Lou's photo from 2005, seems to fit the description. The picture is of Heather a.k.a Barefoot Heather. I know that she is usually near the Tavern. Her hair is brown but lightens up during the summer months. Was this the girl that you saw Mister100?
http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21380
KS
Last night, 1 am, on Collinsville Rd, just west of the tavern. This gal took me by surprise she was so good looking, looked like she should have been hanging on the Landing, not in the ghetto. Light brown, shoulder length hair, medium build-not fat or skinny, just healthy looking. Pretty face and what appeared to be C or D size banana shaped titties. Wearing jeans and what may have been a button top. For a moment I thought it might be a set up.
The girl, in Lou's photo from 2005, seems to fit the description. The picture is of Heather a.k.a Barefoot Heather. I know that she is usually near the Tavern. Her hair is brown but lightens up during the summer months. Was this the girl that you saw Mister100?
http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21380
KSIt could have been her but I am not sure. The chick I saw was better looking, but then again it was dark.
Country Boy #3
07-20-08, 19:11
I found Kendra off 9th Saturday night around 9pm. I can't remember the name of the street, but it's one over from Lynch to the west. She was wearing a denim dress. She's a brunette, mid 20's, very pretty in the face, a little thick in the hips and thighs. She was very easy to talk to, and gave no signs of being high. We got a room, and got down to business. Her attitude changed once we got into it. She didn't want to take her dress off. Just took her panties off. A little odd, but whatever. She did a little BBBJ. Then mish, but a couple minutes into it. She started complaining about her legs and back hurting. The hole time we were doing it she just stared at me, a little off putting. I finally said the hell with it. I dropped her off in Washington park glad she only wanted $40.
As others have reported, Jennifer is indeed back on the stroll. She usually hangs at 4th and Exchange by the tracks. She gained weight during her three months away. She colored her hair so it is a little lighter. Someone had told me she went through rehab but she said no, she just went home to mom and quit cold turkey. Says it wasn't that hard to stay off the crack because she wasn't around it. So why the hell did she come back? She got into a fight with her mother. About a month ago she returns to the stroll and Cheese welcomes her back by smashing her head open. She walks away from a normal life that included on the job training in a dental office just to stick it to her mother!? She's a sweet girl but she has no one to blame but herself for her situation.
I told her my dick was happy to see her but the rest of me was disappointed she's back. Of course, I'm not the first to tell her that. Off to Fairmont for a nice motel date. Her usual professional, friendly and accommodating manner.
Singing Sailor
07-27-08, 04:47
A WSW at Exchange Avenue and Fourth Avenue near the RR tracks wildly waved as I drove past during the evening hours on July 22. Too good to be true, I thought. On my second pass, Uncle Leo approached from the truck terminal causing her to scamper for cover. After reviewing the previous posts, I now realize this was Jennifer. Made the circuit several times on July 25 searching for Jennifer only to spot a couple BSW on CR. One shined a LED flashlight trying to catch my attention as she lurked among the darkness. Hoping that Jennifer might be where the iron horse crosses the road, I began another lap. After several empty passes, I headed for Dollies' Playhouse. No Jennifer! Candy, an attractive white girl, offered a BJ for. 40 and stated she would stay behind the beads for several songs. Candy previously offered a BJ for. 40 during my previous visit last Sunday. As I finished my brew at the bar, I casually sneaked several peeks and saw Candy's blonde head gently bobbing like a fishing cork in the middle booth. There may be fish in that pond after all.
My rod was now stiff, the head of my cock resembled an over-ripe tomato and once again I began trolling for the elusive Jennifer. No Jennifer tonight! As I contemplated returning to Dollies for some Candy, Crystal (speech impaired) was walking along CR near the former funeral home. She jumped in, performed the cop check, and immediately buried her face between my legs. She didn't take the. 30 until she completed her task of a BBBJTC.
Just Fun618
08-08-08, 14:25
Long time monger/lurker, first time poster. I spent an enjoyable evening with Chris-a WSW, dark Blonde, 35+year old, 5'8", very slim, maybe 140#, very small breasts, 32B, awesome legs and butt, small tat on left breast. I picked her up at CR and Exchange and got a room for the night at the Western Inn. She had very good oral skills, as I have found that the older providers give better head than the younger girls. She stated that it really makes her wet to give head. I could tell that she really enjoyed it, she was very wet by the time we took the mish position. She is definately not a rusher, she actually requested that I go slow so that she could enjoy it more, and our time together would be longer. After finishing, she asked if I would like a massage. I didn't take her up on it, though it would have been for me a great opportunity for a msog. Maybe next time :) as I only bring enough to the stroll what I am willing to pay for the basics.
The next morning, a Thursday, I am up and checked out by 6:30am. As I am driving south down CR to my surprise I see 2 BSW and 1 WSW between the railroad underpass and Exchange. I guess the early birds can get your worm!
Might not be great cruising tonight, saw it on local Channel 2 news, so assuming the ESTL po-po will be sniffing around the area tonight.
The website didn't have the link posted yet, but the title pretty much says it all.
Sounds like a body dump though, since
1) they said body was decomposed
and
2) Right around the Presby.? church, it is pretty active, so a body there would have noticed
**
A Church member found the body this afternoon.They say the body was badly decomposed, and either not releasing, or not sure if male/female,etc.
Major Case squad is out there, Fox2 reports
, so that really ups the coverage tonight. I would highly recomend another cruising area for all of today, even late tonight.
From the latest story off the NewsDemocrat website it sounds like the body was found in a brushy area near the church. I kinda remember there being an overgrown part of the church lot. The church is pretty active. The activity level has seemed to increase over the last year or so. Usually there are cars parked along both sides of the streets around the church when activities are taking place.
The story mentions the police planning on viewing video surveillance footage from the area. Perhaps the church has installed a video security system? Something to think of when you're cruising on by the place.
http://www.bnd.com/100/story/427623.html
Country Boy #3
08-11-08, 13:04
I was over on the east side afternoon on Sunday. Shorty A/Ashley was on 9th st wearing an orange tank top and black skirt. She looks about 8 or 9 months pregnant. I've always wanted to screw a pregnant women, but not a pregnant SW. It kind of breaks my heart. Hopefully she will put the kid up for adoption.
There was a couple WSW sitting on the curb at Exchange and 11th st. with there black boss. One redhead, one blonde. Both looked pretty good. I didn't pick them up because I had a date set up with Angel off of Backpage. I didn't go up Exchange after hearing about the body dump.
Taco Hunter
08-12-08, 14:20
I checked it out yesterday and today and it was pretty much dead and there were a couple of unmarked rolling through the area yesterday afternoon. I only saw jennifer out. on a side note has anyone seen (good ashley) recently
has anyone seen (good ashley) recently ===
Chiapet, when I was in town last week, I looked for non-pregnant, good Ashley, but didn't see her out anywhere on the East Side. She is such a sweetheart, and her little enthusiastic dog is adorable. He's obviously very loyal to her.
Sometime in the late afternoon (5 to 6:30 PM) on Sunday, August 3, I did see a 23-year-old BSW named Matika / Matiqa standing at 9th Street and Exchange. Oh my gosh, this lady, without any doubt, has the sexiest, most gorgeous body I saw anywhere during this trip or last trip. Matika's incredible body is even sexier than 18-year-old Valerie's body at City Nights strip club (http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=684069&highlight=Valerie#post684069).
Matika has a very cute face, too. An absolute 10 on body, 8.5 face (on any scale). This girl is not haggard in any way at all. She's totally fresh like a college girl. I was sooo close to picking her up and taking her to a motel, but I was hoping to run into Chrissy again later that night. If I had come with Matika, I would have had a hard time coming with Chrissy--one a day for me is optimal, even though I'm only 40.
I did get out of the car to talk with Matika face-to-face. (By the way, apprentice mongers, don't get out of the car--very dangerous thing to do, especially on the East Side.) Gosh, Matika flashed me a pair of lovely, sexy breasts, big B or small C, and they were just heavenly shaped. It was hard for me to pass on her, hoping to find Chrissy again.
Matika was sweating in the hot sun late Sunday afternoon, and asked if I had some water. Unfortunately, I didn't. She was wearing a thin sun dress and flipped it up to show incredibly sexy legs and thighs with a thin thong. She was in high heels. I'd estimate her height at 5'2" to 5'4".
I've never seen Matika on the stroll before. It might be a rare thing for her to stroll, or she could be a total newcomer. If any of you lucky guys run into her, be sure to write about it. Matika is pronounced like Muh-Tee-Cuh. - rosco
Guys,
The last two times I picked up Ashley, she was at a house on Walter St. This street looks more like an alley. It is between N 9th St, N 11th St, Bowman Ave and Exchange Ave.
KS
More information on the man found dead on Exchange.
http://www.bnd.com/100/story/429812.html
Can't help but wonder if he was in that area for the same reasons we go.
More information on the man found dead on Exchange.
http://www.bnd.com/100/story/429812.html
Can't help but wonder if he was in that area for the same reasons we go.
Thought that myself, although the only thing local TV news mentioned the other day was,' known traffic area for drugs'
The $2,500 worth of stereo equipmnt, likely to get pawned, still means it could be for either reason, but even more likely drug related
Either way, coming from St Charles down around that area, is likely just for 2 reasons. Still no way to go, and I hope relief/justice comes to his family.
I haven't seen *good ashley* in awhile. She gave me her number the last time she gave me one of the top five best bj's I've ever had. My guess is that she is either locked up or lost her phone because it always goes straight to voicemail, and she does'nt call back. Kemo is right about the white house down the very BUMPY alley (could possibly f$*k up your suspension if you fall into one of those potholes). However if your lucky to track her down one day...she does live there with some guy that scared the shit out of me last time I was there...but he knows what shes doing. Anyways to make a long story short if anyone finds her keep her there until i get down there lol. Until then.
she does live there with some guy that scared the shit out of me last time I was there ===
Joker17, I think I may have seen that guy you're talking about. Is he about 55 to 65 years old?
1. Visiting the Gateway Racetrack
2. Visiting Fairmont Racetrack.
3. Visiting the Strip Clubs
4. The Casino Queen is not too far away
5. A few nice parks with fishing lakes are in the area
6. Getting gas at the truck stop
7. Looking for the Metro Link Parking Lot
8. Got off the wrong ramp on the Interstate. I did this a few times myself!
9. Some people actually work in the area. Truckers, Railroad folks, etc.
And many more ...
This guy may not have been looking for drugs or sex. I drove thru the area for almost 20 years before I picked up my first street walker. The people who killed him may have wanted the money for drugs. If the police happen to know he was a drug user or have stopped him before for prostitution that's OK. But they should consider all possibilities if they aren't sure of his lifestyle.
KS
Thought that myself, although the only thing local TV news mentioned the other day was,' known traffic area for drugs'
The $2,500 worth of stereo equipmnt, likely to get pawned, still means it could be for either reason, but even more likely drug related
Either way, coming from St Charles down around that area, is likely just for 2 reasons. Still no way to go, and I hope relief/justice comes to his family.
1. Visiting the Gateway Racetrack
2. Visiting Fairmont Racetrack.
3. Visiting the Strip Clubs
4. The Casino Queen is not too far away
5. A few nice parks with fishing lakes are in the area
6. Getting gas at the truck stop
7. Looking for the Metro Link Parking Lot
8. Got off the wrong ramp on the Interstate. I did this a few times myself!
9. Some people actually work in the area. Truckers, Railroad folks, etc.
And many more ...
However, that's not what the Major case Squad thinks at all, per their early releases of info about the direction they are looking into
Clyde Dnls
08-14-08, 10:34
Last night I hit the stroll looking for a little half and half after sitting at the strip club until the wee hours. I saw very little action on CR , one bsw with a flashlight probably the one previously mentioned by another monger. I continued on and ran into a statie and a county leo drove by me a few times. I decided to head over towards the washrack where I found two WSW one tall red headed gal, she was pretty attractive and just a bit on the chubby side, she was by no means fat thought, curvy might describe her fairly well. I am unsure of her name as I picked up her partner in crime Miranda. Miranda is a gorgeous girl, thin brunnette with tiny titties about 5'6' nice ass and a hairy bush. We exchanged assurances that we weren't cops heading towards Brooklyn but she was nervous about my spot so we turned around, as we headed back past the wash rack the sheriff had the tall redhead standing next to his car. This really got Miranda nervous and she took my hand and placed it between her legs. We headed down 55 N with her wiggling all around telling me to keep going, The entire time she picked at her clothing and looked into her shirt pocket, she was very skiddish and didnt like me moving my hands around in the car. She told me she had been robbed earlier in the night. She sang to me on the way, it was pretty amazing how much soul and power she had, a damn fine piece of talent. We got to Troy and I pulled off. She asked for 1. but I didn't have it and she agreed to my price which was .4 plus a pack of cigs and a lighter. She gave decent head a little to much tooth but corrected when I told her about it. She then climbed on top for some cowgirl very nice, really wet, probably because I had been fingering her the entire way out to Troy. We finished and as I started to head back out she reached into her shirt pocket and out comes the pipe a couple rocks and a small pariing knife, about a two inch blade with the plastic handle, seems like everyone has it in their kitchen, she hands me the knife a says she feels safe with me, and tries to light up her rock, I ask that she doesnt but she goes ahead anyway. So I told her that if she tries to light up again I will leave her in Troy, she gets nervous but not mad and pleads with me to let her fix. I refuse, she backs down , but then she is in a huge hurry to get back to where I got her. O n the way she apologizes for the drug bull, and gives me her number and wants mine too. She said that "she usually doesnt do this but blah blah blah" I took her number and she promised to be less of an pain next time and she wouldnttry to get high around me next time either. We rolled to the washrack to see if the redhead was around. she wasnt, so I dropped Miranda off in front of the Notell at the top of the exit, and headed home.
Last night I hit the stroll looking for a little half and half after sitting at the strip club until the wee hours. I saw very little action on CR , one bsw with a flashlight probably the one previously mentioned by another monger. I continued on and ran into a statie and a county leo drove by me a few times. I decided to head over towards the washrack where I found two WSW one tall red headed gal, she was pretty attractive and just a bit on the chubby side, she was by no means fat thought, curvy might describe her fairly well. I am unsure of her name as I picked up her partner in crime Miranda. Miranda is a gorgeous girl, thin brunnette with tiny titties about 5'6' nice ass and a hairy bush. We exchanged assurances that we weren't cops heading towards Brooklyn but she was nervous about my spot so we turned around, as we headed back past the wash rack the sheriff had the tall redhead standing next to his car. This really got Miranda nervous and she took my hand and placed it between her legs. We headed down 55 N with her wiggling all around telling me to keep going, The entire time she picked at her clothing and looked into her shirt pocket, she was very skiddish and didnt like me moving my hands around in the car. She told me she had been robbed earlier in the night. She sang to me on the way, it was pretty amazing how much soul and power she had, a damn fine piece of talent. We got to Troy and I pulled off. She asked for 1. but I didn't have it and she agreed to my price which was .4 plus a pack of cigs and a lighter. She gave decent head a little to much tooth but corrected when I told her about it. She then climbed on top for some cowgirl very nice, really wet, probably because I had been fingering her the entire way out to Troy. We finished and as I started to head back out she reached into her shirt pocket and out comes the pipe a couple rocks and a small pariing knife, about a two inch blade with the plastic handle, seems like everyone has it in their kitchen, she hands me the knife a says she feels safe with me, and tries to light up her rock, I ask that she doesnt but she goes ahead anyway. So I told her that if she tries to light up again I will leave her in Troy, she gets nervous but not mad and pleads with me to let her fix. I refuse, she backs down , but then she is in a huge hurry to get back to where I got her. O n the way she apologizes for the drug bull, and gives me her number and wants mine too. She said that "she usually doesnt do this but blah blah blah" I took her number and she promised to be less of an pain next time and she wouldnttry to get high around me next time either. We rolled to the washrack to see if the redhead was around. she wasnt, so I dropped Miranda off in front of the Notell at the top of the exit, and headed home.What the hell's the "washrack"?
I have been workin' my game for about two years now, and have been enjoying myself. I....found out about this website thru the RFT article... I thank everyone for their info on all the girls.
Clyde, very nice report. It's nice to see new members contributing, especially after the Riverfront Times article. How many other members signed up after reading the RFT article in early June? Raise your hands ;)
Clyde, just wondering why you took Miranda all the way to Troy for the date. That's a 17-mile drive one-way. Did you feel safer in that township for some reason? Again, nice report. - Rosco
Country Boy #3
08-25-08, 16:51
Around 8:30 Saturday night, I saw a few girls out. Jennifer was on Exchange by the tracks. She was looking pretty rough. It's sad to see her back out again. Ashley/Shorty A was at Exchange and 9th wearing an orange t shirt. She looks ready to pop any day now. How would you like to have her in your car when her water breaks. Good luck explaining that stain on your passenger seat to your significant other.
There were a couple WSW west of Exchange on 9th, with a couple black guys, I never got a good look at them. One of them could have been Crystal.
I still was trying to recover from my earlier date, so I went to Brooklyn. I got to see the twins show at PT'S. It was a pretty good show, especially when Star joined them on stage.
After midnight, I was ready for some action, but the girls were all gone. I saw very little LE presence all night. So I don't know where they went. After a trip to the MO side, I decided to take a nap. I've had pretty good look just after daylight. I went back out around 6:30 Sunday morning, but saw absolutely nothing.
KC Questor
08-25-08, 18:48
What the hell's the "washrack"?
The lot at the corner of 1st and St. Clair used to be a truck wash called the Wash Rack. It was a known hangout for SWs. The Wash Rack was torn down last year, although there is still a trailer there with a sign referencing the new location down 1st street.
Spent a couple of hours at PT's and Roxy's in Brooklyn today. Both clubs were really slow, equal number of dancers as customers.
It was my first visit to PT's, really nice club. Nice private area upstairs with the exception of the $10 Daily VIP Pass charge. A couple of young girls. One told me she was 19.
At 3:30 as I was leaving the parking lot I was approached by a WSW looking for a date. She was brunette, 5' 5" and was likely attractive prior to the crack addiction. I passed as I had satisfied my needs at each of the clubs.
Country Boy#3
I ran into the fella that is supposed the be the father of Ashely's baby Monday night. He said that she lost the baby over the weekend by jumping out of a moving car. Apparently she thought that the guy that picked her up was trying to hurt her.
KS
Around 8:30 Saturday night, I saw a few girls out. Jennifer was on Exchange by the tracks. She was looking pretty rough. It's sad to see her back out again. Ashley/Shorty A was at Exchange and 9th wearing an orange t shirt. She looks ready to pop any day now. How would you like to have her in your car when her water breaks. Good luck explaining that stain on your passenger seat to your significant other.
I ran into the fella that is supposed the be the father of Ashely's baby Monday night. He said that she lost the baby over the weekend by jumping out of a moving car. Apparently she thought that the guy that picked her up was trying to hurt her.
God help and bless these ladies. So tragic.
Plus, I wonder how she's going to explain that to the police, if they ask her.
"You killed your near-term child when jumping from a car while street walking???"
Very sad.
Guys,
Be careful on the east side. The last two days there has been a large amount of LE in the area. Today the white house up from the brick church. The one on the left side, before the railroad tracks, had 4 police cars in front of it with lights on. The house where all the guys sit in the side yard. So be careful.
Gonzo7,
I'm not clear where the white house is located. Can you provide more detail or street names?
KS
Guys,
Be careful on the east side. The last two days there has been a large amount of LE in the area. Today the white house up from the brick church. The one on the left side, before the railroad tracks, had 4 police cars in front of it with lights on. The house where all the guys sit in the side yard. So be careful.
Sorry but I never get street names. Lets try this. If you was coming from Illinois and you stopped by the burnt down motel. There is a four way stop there. You make a right, go over the railroad tracks and as you go over looking to the right. There is a side yard where guys are always hanging out in. That is the place. Maybe somebody could help with street names, sorry.
Country Boy #3
08-28-08, 19:14
Sorry but I never get street names. Lets try this. If you was coming from Illinois and you stopped by the burnt down motel. There is a four way stop there. You make a right, go over the railroad tracks and as you go over looking to the right. There is a side yard where guys are always hanging out in. That is the place. Maybe somebody could help with street names, sorry.
That's the house at Exchange and 4th. They have a bust there every couple months. In the last year, that's about the only place I've seen any SW's on Exchange
KC Questor
08-28-08, 19:25
It has kind of an inset porch, with a pillar, on the southwest corner of the front of the house. When you drive by it, you notice it.
That's the house at Exchange and 4th. They have a bust there every couple months. In the last year, that's about the only place I've seen any SW's on Exchange
Also, that brick Church wsa where the story of the body found happened on Exchange, of which you needn't look back more than a few pages. It brought out the Major Case squad, and when they get done, a new round of local po po activity/cleanup always seems to take place
Country Boy #3
08-30-08, 18:19
I haven't seen any activity on the east side this weekend. Friday night around 9:30 till Saturday afternoon, I think I've seen 2 BSW. There was a WSW in the yard by the tracks on Exchange this afternoon. It could have been Trudy, but she wasn't close enough to the road to get a good look. I haven't seen any LE activity to really speek of either.
Come back girls. We need Ya.
Cruised up 9th and Exchange today, and the area was jumping. I don't know that I've ever seen that many SW's at one time. It looked like a freakin convention. There must have been about 8 or 9 some mixed in races. The highlight was the tall thin BSW standing at the corner of Bowman and 9th who kept flashing a tit every time I passed. I didn't have time to stop because of work, but was impressed because I hadn't seen any activity on this board in awhile. I thought that maybe the stroll was shut down.
At about 3:30 this afternoon, I saw a got decent brunette WSW at 9th and Lake. When I circled around she was gone. Saw a heavier set older blonde WSW at 9th and Exchange when I circled. Passed on her. Saw two marked LE in
the 10 minutes I was in the area.
I cruise Brooklyn sometimes and I thought that I would add a little of what I have seen. When you mentioned BSW and 9th and Bowman, I thought of 2 possible BSW's. When you mentioned flashing that narrowed it down. I think that you saw Randi. Now Randi has the best set of breasts that I have seen, but Randi was not born with these. Randi was born a man. I actually picked him up and I immediately suspected something was up. I asked Randi to show me what he was working with, and he refused. I dropped him off at the gas station and that was that. I asked La La about him and she said that Randi is definetly a man. If you ask some of the other girls about him, they will tell you. Randi is a man, my friend. By the way, for my money, La La is the most beautiful woman to walk those streets 4 $
I cruise Brooklyn sometimes and I thought that I would add a little of what I have seen. When you mentioned BSW and 9th and Bowman, I thought of 2 possible BSW's. When you mentioned flashing that narrowed it down. I think that you saw Randi. Now Randi has the best set of breasts that I have seen, but Randi was not born with these. Randi was born a man. I actually picked him up and I immediately suspected something was up. I asked Randi to show me what he was working with, and he refused. I dropped him off at the gas station and that was that. I asked La La about him and she said that Randi is definetly a man. If you ask some of the other girls about him, they will tell you. Randi is a man, my friend. By the way, for my money, La La is the most beautiful woman to walk those streets 4 $Mick, it doesn't surprise me to hear that. She/He whatever the hell it is, just seemed different. Standing away from most of the girls, and drawing extra attention by pulling out the tittties. I don't know that I've ever seen any SW flash people to get them to pull over without being provoked.
Your story sounds pretty funny though. I bet you about shit when you found out that Randi wasn't what you thought. Good thing you found out before you did your deed.
Randi was born a man.OMG! Thanks for the heads up. Get it? Heads up?
Seriously though, I am so glad that you posted this. I saw Randi on the street a while back and when I turned around to pick her, uh, him, uh, whatever up, someone else had already done so. I was thinking about looking for Randi when I go back but let's just say I won't be.
YIKES!
Luv Fkemall
09-19-08, 12:11
I cruised the same area last Saturday and saw the "tit" exposure BSW sitting in front of the old hotel next to a young very nice looking WSW. I circled around to get another look at the WSW who was now leaving the area because 2 LE cruisers had pulled up and stopped. Both cops were approaching the BSW as I drove by. The WSW was a very short young blond but looked good in her tight jeans. She definately was moving at a fast pace to get the hell out of there. I left and came back about an hour later and no one was around. Could this WSW have been the "shorty" mentioned here in the past?
Some of the SW had warned me about cross dressing men who try to get men to pick them up. The tits definetly through me but Randi as a pretty deep voice. I am glad I asked him to show me, so that I could back out quickly. However, I think he is harmless beyond that. I have heard tell that some of these guys will rob you, but I did not get that impression from Randi. He actually protects some of the (other?) girls out there, and I think that that is a good thing. Shooter had mentioned seeing LE in the vicinity and I heard about the same thing. It seems that LE frown on the flashing and Randi gets a lot of attention because of this behavior. Just another reason to stay away, as if more were needed.
Willy Word
09-20-08, 09:01
I cruise Brooklyn sometimes and I thought that I would add a little of what I have seen. When you mentioned BSW and 9th and Bowman, I thought of 2 possible BSW's. When you mentioned flashing that narrowed it down. I think that you saw Randi. Now Randi has the best set of breasts that I have seen, but Randi was not born with these. Randi was born a man. I actually picked him up and I immediately suspected something was up. I asked Randi to show me what he was working with, and he refused. I dropped him off at the gas station and that was that. I asked La La about him and she said that Randi is definetly a man. If you ask some of the other girls about him, they will tell you. Randi is a man, my friend. By the way, for my money, La La is the most beautiful woman to walk those streets 4 $
^^LOL... La La still walkin around there huh? I ain't been out that way in a minute. The crack was beatin her up in a hurry last time I seen her... She was all spaced out all the time. Hey if you see her again let her know that the guy who took off with all her stuff about 3-4 months ago said... "now we're even" She should remember exactly what your talkin about... if not tell her it was down by the corner spot on 15th and lynch....
Thanks for the story about La La., Willy World. I am not surprised that you has some "incident" with La La. I think is is best to be very cautious, and not to trust any SW, especially one with an addiction. She has never cheated me in any way, but she is just bossy. She has a hard time accepting that the John just wants to do his thing and pay and then get out. La La expected me to act like a boy friend and drive her around to stores. I did do this, a little, but I think I was well compensated for it with better service. However, she does not handle "no" very well. Now, I do not know the details of the situation that you are talking about. She had told me that she as arrested in "Butter's" car on an outstanding warrant, and that she had to leave her stuff in the car for some reason. She had to serve 17 days, and that she was not able (at that time) to retrieve her stuff after she was released. It would not surprise me if this is not what happened. I have not dated her for about a month, because of the bossy behavior. Perhaps the lesson is never trust an addict.
Thanks for the story about La La., Willy World. I am not surprised that you has some "incident" with La La. I think is is best to be very cautious, and not to trust any SW, especially one with an addiction. She has never cheated me in any way, but she is just bossy. She has a hard time accepting that the John just wants to do his thing and pay and then get out. La La expected me to act like a boy friend and drive her around to stores. I did do this, a little, but I think I was well compensated for it with better service. However, she does not handle "no" very well. Now, I do not know the details of the situation that you are talking about. She had told me that she as arrested in "Butter's" car on an outstanding warrant, and that she had to leave her stuff in the car for some reason. She had to serve 17 days, and that she was not able (at that time) to retrieve her stuff after she was released. It would not surprise me if this is not what happened. I have not dated her for about a month, because of the bossy behavior. Perhaps the lesson is never trust an addict.
Hey, I met a Lerla about 4 months ago, a couple blocks south off 9th /exchange. She calls herself a mexican/ light skinned black gal, Very, very cute face, skinny. I was very surprised at the talent, but damn, that girl would talk and talk and talk, and want to drive ALL around. She had some sort of seizure, and had her Hospital collection bills with her.
The Lerla I'm thinking off was temporarily staying with some relative on 13th. all the way down not too far from the 'tracks.
She put her phone # on my cell, but she was out of minutes.
When you mentioned bossy, that got me to thinking if this could be here or not. 'Lerla was around 19-22 at the most
PayforFun, your Lerla sounds very much like the girl that I am talking about.
I Poundhard314
09-22-08, 11:38
Hi fellas,
I've been lurking for awhile now. I'm wondering if this Lerla or La La is the same that posts on CL under the name Lay Lay. She says she is mexican/black 22yo very pretty girl. She doesn't have any ads up at the moment but does this # look familiar 314-398-3778? Hell I'll put up with the bossiness if this is the same chick.
Oh, and your part about the 'stores reminded me of our ourdeal. She had me take her to one location, dive liquor store/station,etc. and bought 5 scracth offs, and worked them to death.
She called me several times after that with numbers she stored in my phone, but I let it go for then.
Hey, I met a Lerla about 4 months ago, a couple blocks south off 9th /exchange. She calls herself a mexican/ light skinned black gal, Very, very cute face, skinny. I was very surprised at the talent, but damn, that girl would talk and talk and talk, and want to drive ALL around. She had some sort of seizure, and had her Hospital collection bills with her.
The Lerla I'm thinking off was temporarily staying with some relative on 13th. all the way down not too far from the 'tracks.
She put her phone # on my cell, but she was out of minutes.
When you mentioned bossy, that got me to thinking if this could be here or not. 'Lerla was around 19-22 at the most
Willy Word
09-23-08, 09:37
Ya shes a pain in the ass...LOL... That girl will don't know the meaning of just handling business. You can't come around her without her wanting a ride here and there. I wrote on her in one of my posts a while back when she pulled a gun on me.... She was stayin with some guy back around natalie and 18th or so... theres a single house back there. I let her slide on that for a little while but not to long. She is kind of sexy though for a SW but I've never gotten that treatment from her. And on a good day believe about half of the crap that comes out of her mouth. And lol at what she told you about Butters car... Don't get me wrong though I wouldn't be surprised if she did get picked up on a warrant.
Thanks for the story about La La., Willy World. I am not surprised that you has some "incident" with La La. I think is is best to be very cautious, and not to trust any SW, especially one with an addiction. She has never cheated me in any way, but she is just bossy. She has a hard time accepting that the John just wants to do his thing and pay and then get out. La La expected me to act like a boy friend and drive her around to stores. I did do this, a little, but I think I was well compensated for it with better service. However, she does not handle "no" very well. Now, I do not know the details of the situation that you are talking about. She had told me that she as arrested in "Butter's" car on an outstanding warrant, and that she had to leave her stuff in the car for some reason. She had to serve 17 days, and that she was not able (at that time) to retrieve her stuff after she was released. It would not surprise me if this is not what happened. I have not dated her for about a month, because of the bossy behavior. Perhaps the lesson is never trust an addict.
Willy Word
09-23-08, 09:42
Hi fellas,
I've been lurking for awhile now. I'm wondering if this Lerla or La La is the same that posts on CL under the name Lay Lay. She says she is mexican/black 22yo very pretty girl. She doesn't have any ads up at the moment but does this # look familiar 314-398-3778? Hell I'll put up with the bossiness if this is the same chick.
^^Description sounds like her but I never knew her to have a 314 number... but who knows she could have one now like I said its been a minute for me bein down there. Only thing is I never knew her to go by Lay Lay... she's La La to everyone down there....
Hi fellas,
I've been lurking for awhile now. I'm wondering if this Lerla or La La is the same that posts on CL under the name Lay Lay. She says she is mexican/black 22yo very pretty girl. She doesn't have any ads up at the moment but does this # look familiar 314-398-3778? Hell I'll put up with the bossiness if this is the same chick.
I've seen that ad, there usually is a pic, and it's not her
Thick girl in the ad is a little thicker, but cute enough
But nor for 150 ;)
I Poundhard314
09-23-08, 22:13
I've seen that ad, there usually is a pic, and it's not her
Thick girl in the ad is a little thicker, but cute enough
But nor for 150 ;)Thanks for the info, when i first started to notice her she was going for $300.
Badbear2000
09-23-08, 23:02
I looked for Exchange and 9th ST all over Brooklyn. It do not exist. Actually after a while I found that it was call Sauget, IL which really doesn't make sense to me since all the signs indicate East Stl. Even saw LE with E STL lettering. Anyway Sunday night after watching my Bears give a game away, I got the urge to travel up I55 to the STL area. Found a hot little BSW on Grand in STL that I submitted on the STL thread. After looking for 9th and Exchange for an hour and finally found it, I ran across some street monsters but fortunately found Trina at 9th and exchange. Nice looking face and body. Seemed out of place there. She want $100 if I wanted FS and I said no way and started to take her back. We finally agreed on $40 and we found a nice quiet place. She first want a condom which I hate for a BJ. It feels like taking a shower with a rain coat on. She didn't go for that so I said ok, give me $20 back and we will call it even. She then start giving me a hj and I told her that I could do that. She finally started licking at it but after a while really got into it. I thought there is no way she is going to let me cum in her mouth but to my surprise she did. But she did spit. She really got nervous when I told her where I lived because her boy friend lives there. She kept asking me if I was setting her up and I kept assuring her that all I want was to get between her legs and in her mouth. I have her digits and they are good because she kept calling me to insure herself that I was not setting her up. She has agreed when she goes to visit her boyfriend that she will either drop by before or after she goes to him. I can't wait to get her in my water bed. She is what you call a true dedicated girl friend.
The forum is called Brooklyn because back in the day, there was a lot of action in the small town of Brooklyn. Strip clubs, massage parlors, swinger club, street girls, you name the vice and you probably could find it in Brooklyn. Unfortunately not much of that is left these days except for the strip clubs.
The 9th Street & Exchange stroll is in East Saint Louis. I think there are actually several maps posted in here that show the location.
There are hourly motels in Fairmont, which is just east of the stroll. Keep on 9th street till, it turns into Collinsville Road and will take you into Fairmont. If you want to do more than a car date, take her to an hourly in there or the one in Washington Park.
DO NOT take a sw to your house! Unless you like the prospect of having uninvited guests calling on you one night.
Hey Willy Word. I looked up your story at:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=647620#post647620
I can see why you might be pissed at La La. I guess there are good reasons to let that one go. Sounds like a lot of guys sound interested in her.
Hope that they proceed with a bit of caution.
In the late 80s the St.Louis Post Dispatch did a story on Brooklyn. It was quite a layout. The story went onto say how all these strip clubs, massage parlors, and bars created jobs and taxes to help support the schools and the city. At the time the bars served alcohol untill 3am which attracted people from the Missouri side. At that time not many bars in Missouri, if any served past 1am.
I remember going there in the mid to late 80s. It was Las Vegas with all the lights. At one time there was around a dozen strip joints in a two block area, not to mention the massage parlors and the hot tub place. There was also some decent looking street walkers who dressed up the part.This was also before crack cocaine was a problem here in the good ole midwest. And several years before meth was even a blip onthe radar.
Rollamale
Pink Slip bar blamed in man's shooting death
From MadisonRecord.com , 9/25/2008 , By Kelly Holleran
A woman has filed a wrongful death suit on behalf of her deceased son against a Brooklyn bar, claiming her son was killed because of the bar's negligent conduct.
Toni Conners alleges her son, DeJuan C. Johnson, was at the Pink Slip on April 16, 2005, when he was shot in the abdomen, according to a complaint filed Sept. 22 in St. Clair Circuit Court.
At the time of Johnson's shooting, all patrons were supposed to have entered the bar through a metal detector and some were even searched with a hand-held metal detector, according to the complaint.
At some point throughout the night, Johnson and another person, referred to only as "A.D." in the complaint, got into a verbal argument, the suit states.
During the argument, Conners claims A.D. pulled a handgun from his waistband and fired a shot into Johnson's abdomen.
Johnson died on April 16 from the gunshot, according to the complaint.
Pink Slip was negligent because it should have known its patrons had attempted to conceal weapons to bring into its bar, especially since it had been the scene of numerous violent crimes in the past, the suit states.
Conners claims the bar should have implemented additional security procedures, provided adequate security and should have warned patrons of the likelihood of a violent event.
An adequately trained security force should have been operating the metal detectors, but the bar failed to provide an adequately trained staff, and the security at the bar on the night of the shooting should have provided adequate supervision and stopped the incident before Johnson was killed, according to the complaint.
Pink Slip was also negligent because its security allowed and failed to detect A.D.'s deadly weapon, the suit states.
Conners claims the bar failed to alert its employees to the dangers of deadly weapons, failed to inform Johnson of the danger he faced and failed to anticipate a criminal attack of this type.
Conners claims she has suffered damages and a great loss of companionship, society, love and affection.
She is seeking a judgment in excess of $50,000, plus pre-judgment interest and costs.
Joseph M. Taylor of Taylor & Taylor will be representing her.
Around 4pm Thursday, I decided to ride through the stroll. I saw Crazy Heather walking toward the wash rack.
Shannon was in front of the Hill Crest Hotel.
The young blond Jenna was on 11th street near Exchange.
Amanda was walking near 11th and Lake Ave.
There was a new face on Walter St which looks like an alley. The new girl was a very cute petite brunette who seemed to be barely 18. About 5 ft tall
KS
Around 4pm Thursday....the young blond Jenna was on 11th street near Exchange.
I spoke to Jenna about 1 and 1/2 hours later at 5:30 PM. She said she turned 21 years old that day (Thursday). She asked for the bottle of water I had in the car that I got from the Dollies club. I gave it to her, along with $2, which is the standard stage tip. Jenna sure is a very polite girl, and said, "God bless you, sir." While at Dollies earlier, it looked like Charisma was working over a senior citizen with her hand behind the beads in a booth ;) Good for him.
Amanda was walking near 11th and Lake Ave.
I saw her also. This was the shorter Amanda, not the taller, thinner blonde.
If you saw them at 4 PM, and I saw'em at 5:30 PM, they must have been out for at least 90 minutes. I wonder if they had any dates during that time.
There was a new face on Walter St which looks like an alley. The new girl was a very cute petite brunette who seemed to be barely 18.
Tell us more about the new lady. I didn't see her at 5:30. What's her name, and did you date? If anyone has any photos or a number, I may have to make another quick trip to the Lou.
I also saw Red on 9th near Lynch. She flashed a pretty tittie at my window. I almost let her in to play with her sweet chest.
Also saw 40-something Crystal at the Royal Inn on 10th. She walked out the back door to the back parking lot. She was in shorts that revealed legs that were scarred with lots of reddish marks. I didn't like driving in that back lot--saw some broken glass. - Rosco
Rosco2
I don't have anything else to share about the new girl that I saw. I didn't date her or any of the other girls that I saw that day.
KS
Tell us more about the new lady. I didn't see her at 5:30. What's her name, and did you date? If anyone has any photos or a number, I may have to make another quick trip to the Lou.
Member #3213
09-28-08, 23:41
I may have seen the same new girl Friday afternoon. She was brunette, looked to be about 5' tall, if that, and VERY young.
Last Thursday, 9/25, I was all over the southside stroll and keep coming up snake eyes. Frustrated, I thought I would hit the Brooklynn stroll to see what was out there. It was about noon and all that was out was Glenda. She was dressed just like the hookers in movies, and wasn't really wanting to parade that around the motel I had already set up. Cruised back toward the metrolink lot and saw Jenna. Picked her up and headed to my motel in Missouri. We settled on. 5 for fs. We got to the hotel and she showered and we got down to business. Nice starting BJ and then moved to mish. Finished with legs up high and pounding hard. Took her back to the drop off and headed to Wiseguys. I was on a mission.
Jenna was friendly and easy going. Nothing spectacular to report, but nothing bad either. Was interested in any information on Glenda if anyone has any.
Luv Fkemall
09-29-08, 12:20
Cruised 9th street and found "Heather". Since I was in "need' and was not seeing much available should looked good enough. What a waste of time. Worst attempt at BJ I have ever had. This must have been crazy heather I have read about. Long brown hair, thin and bad teeth. What a waste of time.
I may have seen the same new girl Friday afternoon. She was brunette, looked to be about 5' tall, if that, and VERY young.
Well, you guys make sure she's at least 18. I don't want to date anybody less than 18.
I know 16 is legal in Great Britain, but 18 is legal here--well, 17 in Missouri, but for prostitution, I think the lady still has to be 18. - Rosco
PS: Are you sure she was even street-walking? Maybe it was just a teen who lives in the area?
I know when I see a questionably young face, I won't even stop. I'll just keep driving. Was this lady black or white?
Member #3213
09-29-08, 14:37
Well, you guys make sure she's at least 18. I don't want to date anybody less than 18.
I know 16 is legal in Great Britain, but 18 is legal here--well, 17 in Missouri, but for prostitution, I think the lady still has to be 18. - Rosco
PS: Are you sure she was even street-walking? Maybe it was just a teen who lives in the area? Was the lady black or white?
An age check would definitely be called for.
I would bet $100 she was working. She was scooped up, and returned about 30-40 minutes later.
Knucklebuck
09-29-08, 17:17
Well, you guys make sure she's at least 18. I don't want to date anybody less than 18.
I know 16 is legal in Great Britain, but 18 is legal here--well, 17 in Missouri, but for prostitution, I think the lady still has to be 18. - Rosco
PS: Are you sure she was even street-walking? Maybe it was just a teen who lives in the area?
I know when I see a questionably young face, I won't even stop. I'll just keep driving. Was this lady black or white?
A few years back, one girl on the South Side told me she was out on the street at 15. Altogether that makes it 13 years turning tricks.
Kinda odd though, usually the cute young teenage girls cozy up with the dealers and don't have to work the streets.
Then they get older and replaced by younger girls and have to resort to dating to get money for drugs.
Granted, not every story is the same but I've heard it enough times from girls that have lived it.
A few years back, one girl on the South Side told me she was out on the street at 15. Altogether that makes it 13 years turning tricks.
Kinda odd though, usually the cute young teenage girls cozy up with the dealers and don't have to work the streets.
Then they get older and replaced by younger girls and have to resort to dating to get money for drugs.
Granted, not every story is the same but I've heard it enough times from girls that have lived it.That's the life of the streets for an under-age girl. "Mostly" that's how it happens. I've heard the same & eyewitnessed it for myself here in the south.
KC Questor
09-29-08, 20:51
I know 16 is legal in Great Britain, but 18 is legal here--well, 17 in Missouri, but for prostitution, I think the lady still has to be 18. - Rosco
That would be true. The age of consent may be under 18 in some states, but when considering prostitution it is the age of majority that matters -- and that is 18 in all 50 states*.
*Not to be confused for actual legal advice. KCQuestor is not a legal authority and makes no promises, implied or expressed, about the legitimacy of any advice of a legal, quasi-legal, or illegal nature. All rights reserved. Thank you for not smoking.
This is probably a stretch, but does anyone remember a dancer named Amber? She worked at P. T. 's in Brooklynn a couple of years ago. She was a brunette, long hair, spinner type. Probably about 20 and had very nice perky breasts with long suckable nipples. She was from the Washington, Mo area, but was living in St. Charles at the time. I had some very hot privates with her that went longer than were complimentry. Then one day she was gone and the people I asked at the club never knew where she went.
*Not to be confused for actual legal advice. KCQuestor is not a legal authority and makes no promises, implied or expressed, about the legitimacy of any advice of a legal, quasi-legal, or illegal nature. All rights reserved. Thank you for not smoking.
rofl, Please wait until the load is fully unloaded before pulling away.
Country Boy#3
I ran into the fella that is supposed the be the father of Ashely's baby Monday night. He said that she lost the baby over the weekend by jumping out of a moving car. Apparently she thought that the guy that picked her up was trying to hurt her.
KSPicked up Ashley tonight. Short, very cute, great personality and long blond hair. Since I was in a hurry I asked for a hand job. She stated .30 I told her she was crazy agreed on a .15. She wanted me to ride around while she did the deed. She was afraid the police would stop if they saw two people sittiing in a parked car. She told me this after we were parked for awhile and something else she wanted me to put both hands, while we were parked, on the steering wheel. She stated that she had a bad experience one time. I found driving around while getting my head pulled on was very uncomfortable. Although she told me she was the best on the street and would surley get me off. Which she did. I got to play with her breasts for a little bit but she said they were sore. She just had a baby. All in all was not that bad and she was very cute and seemed to enjoy her work. One draw back she had either been drinking or smoking because you could smell it on her. However her personality and looks was great.
Country Boy #3
10-01-08, 06:39
Last Thursday, 9/25, I was all over the southside stroll and keep coming up snake eyes. Frustrated, I thought I would hit the Brooklynn stroll to see what was out there. It was about noon and all that was out was Glenda. She was dressed just like the hookers in movies, and wasn't really wanting to parade that around the motel I had already set up. Cruised back toward the metrolink lot and saw Jenna. Picked her up and headed to my motel in Missouri. We settled on. 5 for fs. We got to the hotel and she showered and we got down to business. Nice starting BJ and then moved to mish. Finished with legs up high and pounding hard. Took her back to the drop off and headed to Wiseguys. I was on a mission.
Jenna was friendly and easy going. Nothing spectacular to report, but nothing bad either. Was interested in any information on Glenda if anyone has any.
I saw her a few times a couple years ago. She used to hang out around the wash rack, and always played up the hooker look with very short skirts. I only had car dates with her, but they were awesome. She would give me an excellent BBBJ while I played with her little ass. Then straddle me in the drivers seat. I just loved holding her little butt while she road me. I could never last very long with her. I haven't seen her since Dec. '06. Hopefully this is the same girl, I would love to hook up with her again.
Do you remember where you saw her?
Do you remember where you saw [Glenda]?
CountryBoy, ten days ago I reported the following about Glenda:
"On a Sunday at 6:45 PM, I saw WSW Glenda at 9th and Bowman. She's 40- or 50-something, thin frame, long incredible legs that were shown off by a short white skirt. Wow, her legs reeled me in. Smokin' legs and tush. Her face is okay, and she seemed like a nice friendly person."
I posted the above in the St. Louis Streetwalkers thread, but I suppose I should have posted it here in the Brooklyn thread (it was part of a long post that included spottings of both St. Louis walkers and East Side walkers.) Here's a link if you'd like:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=704346&highlight=Glenda#post704346
When I spotted Glenda, she was actually walking away from 9th on Bowman. She was quite a way down on Bowman. While driving on 9th, I would have missed her if I hadn't turned my head to look down Bowman. That's how far down Bowman she was. Good luck finding her. She sure knows how to wear a skirt. - Rosco
Picked up Ashley tonight. Short, very cute, great personality and long blond hair. Since I was in a hurry I asked for a hand job. She stated .30 I told her she was crazy agreed on a .15.
Gonzo, $15 for a hand job! Great negotiating, my friend.
I prefer hand jobs to blow jobs, myself. I can't always get off from a blow job, but I almost always get off from a handie ;-) I like to see the lady's face and breasts, which is hard during a BJ.
May I ask if you used any lubricant with the handie? If not, did she use her saliva? Or was nothing at all used? Great date and report! - Rosco
I saw her a few times a couple years ago. She used to hang out around the wash rack, and always played up the hooker look with very short skirts. I only had car dates with her, but they were awesome. She would give me an excellent BBBJ while I played with her little ass. Then straddle me in the drivers seat. I just loved holding her little butt while she road me. I could never last very long with her. I haven't seen her since Dec. '06. Hopefully this is the same girl, I would love to hook up with her again.
Do you remember where you saw her?Yea, she was walking up 9th Street at Exchange. She looked like she had a nice body, but was a little worn. Have fun, bro.
Gonzo, $15 for a hand job! Great negotiating, my friend.
I prefer hand jobs to blow jobs, myself. I can't always get off from a blow job, but I almost always get off from a handie ;-) I like to see the lady's face and breasts, which is hard during a BJ.
May I ask if you used any lubricant with the handie? If not, did she use her saliva? Or was nothing at all used? Great date and report! - RoscoWhy do you even need to know that?
Gonzo, $15 for a hand job! Great negotiating, my friend.
I prefer hand jobs to blow jobs, myself. I can't always get off from a blow job, but I almost always get off from a handie ;-) I like to see the lady's face and breasts, which is hard during a BJ.
May I ask if you used any lubricant with the handie? If not, did she use her saliva? Or was nothing at all used? Great date and report! - RoscoA few good questions. I should have came ready but just happened to see her and said why not? So brother it was bare back all the way. Maybe that is why it was somewhat uncomfortable :)
Hey guys,
I went to Roxy's this afternoon. I had read that they changed thier private areas and had to see for myself. What an excuse. I have to agree I'm not to hip on the new set up, but you still can have some privacy if you get the right booth. They also stopped taking the old blue and white free passes. They have new passes with expirations and they don't honor the old ones anymore.
I did meet a nice little brunette named Annalisa. She has perky little B's with nice big nipples, love those big nipples. A thin waist with long black hair, and a shaved dance floor. The private was nice with some nice grabbing thru my pants. At the end she started to just work it thru my pants, but I had to stop her before I created a mess in my pants. The whole time she kept saying how hot she thought I was and how worked up she was getting (who has never heard that before while the money was still flowing). The odd thing then was that she gave me her phone number and told me to call her so we could meet up for lunch. Never had that happen before. First, and most realistic, thought is that she is trying to milk out more money. The odd thing is that I didn't really spend much on her. We'll see, just wanted to know if anyone else has any similar experiences or intel on her specifically.
By the way, noone was out on the "Brooklynn" stroll.
Country Boy #3
10-06-08, 15:34
Met a WSW named Kris on Exchange at 4th st. Sunday night. I passed on her a couple times. She wasn't close enough to get a good look. Finally around midnight she was standing on Exchange. Pretty nice looking gal. Dirty blonde, thin, small breasts. We agreed on $50 for half and half at a notel. I was pleasantly supprised when she got naked. She has a very nice body. For a 39 year old, her body looks 20 something. Started out with a very wet BBBJ. Then covered luvin. She felt great even covered up. After a few minutes I asked to cum in her mouth. She said of course. So off with the cover, and back to BBBJ with extra tounge action on the twins. I let her know I was going to explode, And she took every drop I could muster. WOW! She went to the bathroom and spit.
I had some singles left over from the strip club, so I tipped her another $10. She give me her number if Senior members are interested. She seems like too nice a gal to be hanging around that corner.
Other than Kris, It was pretty dead Sunday night and Monday morning. No signs of Glenda. Damnit. When I dropped Kris back off on Exchange, around 1am Monday, I saw a WSW on 1st where it's real dark. It looked like she had dark hair, with a bit of belly. Maybe late 20's. I didn't recognize her.
EDITOR'S NOTE: This report was deleted in accordance with the Forum's policy prohibiting any references to transvestites or transsexuals. This action is in no way a reflection of the merits of the author's comments.
I am aware that the vast majority of references to transvestites or transsexuals are legitimate attempts to warn other fellow members about how easy it is to accidentally pickup transvestites or transsexuals, etc. However, past discussions in the Forum has repeatedly demonstrated that the subject simply cannot be discussed intelligently, in any form or for any reason, without being misinterpreted and without starting flame wars.
Please do not post information about or references to transvestites or transsexuals in the Forum. Please read the Forum's Posting Guidelines for further information. Thanks!
Hell Rayser
10-08-08, 10:30
Yeah a friend right. By the way talking about TS and TV is prohibited and can get you banned.
I have a friend that is a switch-hitter. I told him about Randi and is very interested in seeing her/him. He said he has gone over there a couple of times but cannot find her/him. So I am wondering if she is still hanging out over there, and if anyone has seen her/him?I was over there last Friday, and seen Randi walking up 9th street past Rt3 (toward the railroad tracks). I don't know Randi personally, but described a tall thin black "woman" that liked to flash a tit everytime I drove by. Someone reported that was Randi. If this is true that is where I saw him/her.
Look at this Craigs List post. I believe this is Ashley or Shorty. What do you guys think. I mean it sure looks like her to me.
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ers/870711844.html
KC Questor
10-08-08, 20:22
Look at this Craigs List post. I believe this is Ashley or Shorty. What do you guys think. I mean it sure looks like her to me.
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ers/870711844.html
Haha, an "upscale" provider with a 10 minute rate plan. How classy!
Haha, an "upscale" provider with a 10 minute rate plan. How classy!I know that smile and that body well. Her ass is a bit larger since I dated her, but then again, so is mine. For a mother of 2 she looks amazing. Better try to get your service up front though. She ditches.
I have a friend that is a switch-hitter. I told him about Randi and is very interested in seeing her/him. He said he has gone over there a couple of times but cannot find her/him. So I am wondering if she is still hanging out over there, and if anyone has seen her/him?The Amazing Randi was there tonight around 5 pm, 9th and Bowman. Please don't blame me I'm just the messanger. I would not touch him with a ten foot pole (and I do not have one).
It's Ashley a.k.a Shorty A for Sure!
Look at this Craigs List post. I believe this is Ashley or Shorty. What do you guys think. I mean it sure looks like her to me.
http://stlouis.craigslist.org/ers/870711844.html
Does anyone know anything about a older blond haired girl named Glenda? She looks to be about 50+ and very thin. Saw her three times in the past few days but did no business. She turns me on because she is always dressed very nice and one day she had on a black micro mini skirt with long black boots. Very nice legs about hit a car when I snapped my head around (the big head not the little one).
Has anyone seen or heard anything more about the new gal that Kemo Sabe first spotted on the Exchange stroll about 2 weeks ago?
Country Boy #3
10-11-08, 23:10
Does anyone know anything about a older blond haired girl named Glenda? She looks to be about 50+ and very thin. Saw her three times in the past few days but did no business. She turns me on because she is always dressed very nice and one day she had on a black micro mini skirt with long black boots. Very nice legs about hit a car when I snapped my head around (the big head not the little one).
I dated her four or five times in late '05, and rank them as the hottest car dates I've ever had. She disappeared in Dec. '05 until just recently. I've been looking for her, but haven't had any luck. Where did you see her? What time of day? If any one gets a phone number from her, please pass it on. Three years is a long time in they're line of work, but I can say she used to be amazing. I've been reading reports of guys seeing her for the last month, but nobody has reported dating her. Maybe some guys are being stingy.
I dated her four or five times in late '05, and rank them as the hottest car dates I've ever had. She disappeared in Dec. '05 until just recently. I've been looking for her, but haven't had any luck. Where did you see her? What time of day? If any one gets a phone number from her, please pass it on. Three years is a long time in they're line of work, but I can say she used to be amazing. I've been reading reports of guys seeing her for the last month, but nobody has reported dating her. Maybe some guys are being stingy.Country Boy have seen her mostly in the early evening around 4 to 5 PM. Also on the main stroll. She looks older but her body is amazing. I mean her legs for a lady that old where great.
I dated her four or five times in late '05, and rank them as the hottest car dates I've ever had. She disappeared in Dec. '05 until just recently.
Country Boy, although I spoke with Glenda briefly while she was strolling last month, I didn't ask for her number because she's just not my type. She is a really sexy lady, though. Her body is amazing, but I found her face to be a bit worn. I'm a face man more than a body man. I'll happily date a fat lady if she has a cute face, but much less likely to date a thin lady if she has a so-so face. Glenda's body is rocking, but the face is only average, in my opinion (like 22-year-old Sarah and 20-something Nikki of the South-Side stroll--they both have really good bodies, but their faces didn't ignite my interest). But if I see Glenda again, I'll ask her if she has a phone number I can pass on. I know some of you guys are interested in performance more than appearance.
By the way, I was the first to report Glenda's re-emergence after her long, 3-year hiatus from the hobby ;) That's worth extra points {chuckle}. Some of you newcomers to the board should be reporting everything you see :) - Rosco
Country Boy have seen her mostly in the early evening around 4 to 5 PM. Also on the main stroll. She looks older but her body is amazing. I mean her legs for a lady that old where great.
I am sure this is the lady I saw on Friday at about 3:30 in the afternoon, she was on on 9th right at Exchange. I agree her body looks amazing. Saw a heavy BSW a block east of her.
Went back later at about 8:45 and saw 3 BSW and a younger blonde that yelled for me as I drove by. Didn't partake as I had just had a great VIP session with Harley at WG.
Country Boy, although I spoke with Glenda briefly while she was strolling last month, I didn't ask for her number because she's just not my type. She is a really sexy lady, though. Her body is amazing, but I found her face to be a bit worn. I'm a face man more than a body man. I'll happily date a fat lady if she has a cute face, but much less likely to date a thin lady if she has a so-so face. Glenda's body is rocking, but the face is only average, in my opinion (like 22-year-old Sarah and 20-something Nikki of the South-Side stroll--they both have really good bodies, but their faces didn't ignite my interest). But if I see Glenda again, I'll ask her if she has a phone number I can pass on. I know some of you guys are interested in performance more than appearance.
By the way, I was the first to report Glenda's re-emergence after her long, 3-year hiatus from the hobby ;) That's worth extra points {chuckle}. Some of you newcomers to the board should be reporting everything you see :) - RoscoI don't know Rosco. I didn't remember hearing about her, so I searched for her thread, and my first report of her on 9/29 was the first report on her. Then Country Boy said he saw her as well a couple days later. I don't have the chance to contribute as much as I like, but give some of us newbies a little prop. No doubt you are the King of the thread in my opinion. Just busting balls, man. Keep up the good work.
I don't know Rosco. I didn't remember hearing about her, so I searched for her thread, and my first report of her on 9/29 was the first report on her.
Mutger, you write good reports. I enjoy reading them. But you're mistaken below when you said you were the first to report about Glenda. I don't want to toot my own horn, but my report three weeks ago on 9/22 preceded yours by a whole week :)
Of course, Country Boy preceded both of us by 3 years :) He dated her 3 years ago before she disappeared for 3 years.
Here's a link to my September 22nd report, the first sighting of Glenda in 3 years (the report begins with Susan, but Glenda is mentioned near the end):
http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=704346&highlight=Glenda#post704346
But keep up the good work, Mutger. You write good stuff :) :) :)
And it's a fun game that we play on the board to see who can be the first to report on a really good lady.
- Rosco
Mutger, you write good reports. I enjoy reading them. But you're mistaken below when you said you were the first to report about Glenda. I don't want to toot my own horn, but my report three weeks ago on 9/22 preceded yours by a whole week :)
Of course, Country Boy preceded both of us by 3 years :) He dated her 3 years ago before she disappeared for 3 years.
Here's a link to my September 22nd report, the first sighting of Glenda in 3 years (the report begins with Susan, but Glenda is mentioned near the end):
http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=704346&highlight=Glenda#post704346
But keep up the good work, Mutger. You write good stuff :) :) :)
And it's a fun game that we play on the board to see who can be the first to report on a really good lady.
- RoscoHail the King! Hail the King! I stand corrected. I searched her name before I stepped out, but it didn't bring that post up. You the Man!
Goat Roper
10-14-08, 18:27
Saw this site in the RFT and decided to look it over. Had cruised Rt 3 between 64 & Venicein the past, but never knew to go to 9th until I read the reports posted here. Had three dates last year with Italy/Slim in Brooklyn, but haven't been around in awhile--her name doesn't come up anymore. Let me know how I do on my first report!
Went today at around 1:30 and 2:30, but struck out the first loop and then LEO was everywhere. Drove Rt 3 from 64 to Brooklyn, did a loop through the clubs, but saw no one. Drove to Venice and back down to 9th in ESL and still saw no one. Drove down 9th to 203 and got a bottle of water (plus an extra for the girls), came back and went down Exchange andgot stuck at the tracks for 15 minutes for a train. Saw NO ONE. Took a loop through Brooklyn again and thought about just quitting as I took a phone call in the bookstore parking lot.
Drove back down to ESL and drove down 9th. FINALLY, I saw a blond thin WSW (Glenda? ) on Exchange heading for the tracks. Had traffic behind me, so I couldn't make the turn quickly and went on. Saw LEO with his party lights on a block down Lynch then a heavier WSW at 9th & Collinsville, but drove by since I didn't want to join the party with LEO. Turned around and went back to Exchange, but as soon as I got to the tracks where Glenda (? ) was, LEO turned onto Exchange from 9th and I saw another LEO SUV turn onto Exchange from 1st or 2nd. I skated.
Came back a while later at 2:30 and did the 9th loop. Saw a nice BSW that gave me the eye at 9th & Walter, but damned if LEO wasn't turning onto 9th at Winstanley. I gave up and headed back to MO.
I'll report my next attempts. Hopefully, I have better luck.
Were any of you fellow mongers in the area when this happened? Sounds like this was near the convenience store on the corner.
Man killed in car crash while fleeing police in East St. Louis
BY JENNIFER A. BOWEN
News-Democrat
The Illinois State Police and the St. Clair County Sheriff's Department are investigating a fatal car crash that began as a routine traffic stop early Tuesday in East St. Louis.
xxxxxx x. xxxx, 31, was killed in the single-vehicle car crash, according to the St. Clair County Coroner. Reid was involved in the accident while he attempted to flee from police.
At 2:20 a.m. a St. Clair County Sheriff's deputy stopped a vehicle for disobeying a stop sign at 15th Street and Lynch in East St. Louis. When the deputy approached the 2002 Chrysler the driver put the car in reverse and attempted to run over the deputy, according to St. Clair County Sheriff's Capt. Steve Johnson, chief investigator for the department.
The deputy was able to get out of the way and avoid injury.
According to the police report, the vehicle then sped away and the deputy returned to his vehicle to pursue the car. The suspect lost control of the vehicle and skidded over a curb near 15th Street and Summit, coming to a halt. As the deputy and other officers attempted to approach the vehicle the driver again put his vehicle into reverse and rammed a St. Clair County Sheriff's squad car before again fleeing from officers, according to the police report.
"Due to the suspect's dangerous driving, deputies backed away and temporarily lost sight of the vehicle," according to a press release from Johnson.
Officers spotted the suspect again as the vehicle went airborne over railroad tracks in the 1900/2000 block of St. Louis Avenue in East St. Louis.
Deputies found the driver pinned inside the vehicle and emergency vehicles arrived to extract him.
The driver was taken to Kenneth Hall Hospital where he was pronounced dead.
The driver's name has not been released pending notification of relatives, but police have indicated he has a "substantial drug criminal history and a suspended driver's license."
The Illinois State Police Accident Reconstructionists were called to the scene to handle the investigation. While they were investigation, officers found a stolen .380 semi-automatic pistol, crack cocaine, marijuana and Ecstasy pills in the vehicle.
© 2007 Belleville News-Democrat and wire service sources. All Rights Reserved. http://www.belleville.com
Haven't been in there in a few years and a friend is coming to town so I wanted to take him around. We'll be going to PT's in Centreville, but the last time I drove by Roxy's there had been some changes to the neighborhood. Anyone caring to post or PM me with current info would be appreciated.
Funny, this was posted on CL today.
I must inform hobbyist of a bad provider that has a number6186919462, girl in two piece swim suit that has two goons ready to take your money when you show up. Providers in Illinois are not worth it. Look at her photo and it will show an old date. Others to watch out for are. Mya and Kayla in downtown, 2069849203 pron site, Jessica 3414168 fake photo, Brooke, Ashley.
Ciao Friend of Johns
Funny, this was posted on CL today.
I must inform hobbyist of a bad provider that has a number6186919462, girl in two piece swim suit that has two goons ready to take your money when you show up. Providers in Illinois are not worth it. Look at her photo and it will show an old date. Others to watch out for are. Mya and Kayla in downtown, 2069849203 pron site, Jessica 3414168 fake photo, Brooke, Ashley.
Ciao Friend of JohnsThis guy has been posting on CL and whinning for a couple of weeks, no facts ever stated. Sounds like he is here now doing the same.
If you can't give us specific information then your complaints are not very worth while.
Providers use fake photos. Old photos, touched up photos what a shocker!
You have complained about several women. Is it them or you?
Give us the facts, I would like to hear them. If they exist.
Just my two cents.
Before I get to my stupidness last night I’ll start from the beginning. Decided to come out of retirement and spend the evening in the hood. It’s been like 3 years since I was there with the intent of making new friends so I was on edge to begin with. Made my first passes about an hour after dark. There where 3 SW out in the middle of the street at 9th and Exchange. I hate when they make it so damned obvious. One was a thin redhead with long hair and I’d guess maybe 5’6" or so. Couldn’t see much to identify the other 2 in the dark other than they were all white. Given the situation I continued down 9th and spotted a BSW in dark pants & jacket between Winstanley and Lynch, which I also passed by. Made several loops and saw nothing on Exchange, 1st or the wash rack. What I think was that Randi thing showed up on 9th in the same area I saw the BSW. About this time Leo threw a party complete with lights where 9th goes over I-64 so I decided to head up Rt. 3 to Chain of Rocks.
In the past year I’ve gotten the look several time up there during the day but there were no signs of activity so I got a bite to eat and killed a little time. Later on I returned to find a Madison County Leo going back and forth in the area of the Chain of Rocks Motel.
Back to the hood on Rt 3 to 9th. First thing I see is a maybe 20 something dirty blonde little spinner crossing in front of me at the intersection and heading south on 9th in a hurry. I assumed she was probably one of the WSW from 9th & Exchange earlier. She was looking pretty good and I was seriously tempted to scoop her up but with not knowing what was going on in the area and her being in a hurry for reasons unknown I didn’t. Leo threw a couple more parties thru the coarse of the evening, one on CR between the RR underpass and the gas station. The other was a van pulled over on Lake just off 9th. A couple ESL cruisers were also parked near 1st & Exchange for a while. Needless to say this put a damper on more than a few mongers fun. I made numerous passes and even went south on 9th and by the hotel on 10th but never saw the spinner or any WSW for that matter again. There were a couple BSW on 9th at times. One looked like the first I saw at the start of the night. The other was wearing a white coat. I saw her talking to several mongers but never got in their vehicles. Given the heat in the area I didn’t like the looks of that.
Finally it’s after midnight and I decide to give up on finding a WSW. I passed the darkly clothed BSW several time as she walked down Exchange to the corner of 3rd so I stopped and picked her up. Not sure of height, shoulder length hair kind of full figured but not fat with nice sweater puppies, right nipple pierced but not sure about left. Says her name is Carla (sp? ) guess late 20’s or 30 something? Agree on $30 BBBJCIM and head to a spot not too far away. Since I didn’t know what the evenings entertainment would involve I had a total of $80 folded and in my front pants pocket. When we got to the spot I pealed of 30 and put the rest back. BBBJ was wet and sloppy with lots of tongue just the way I like it. Didn’t take long at all for little eslguy to pop his cork. We parted ways and I headed for home satisfied. About half way there I stick my hand in the pants pocket my $ should be in and of course it was gone. I don’t know who I’m madder at the SW or myself. Seems almost every time I pick up a BSW I either get attitude or an attempted rob. Hope you guys find this information useful.
Eslguy
Since I didn’t know what the evenings entertainment would involve I had a total of $80 folded and in my front pants pocket. When we got to the spot I pealed of 30 and put the rest back. BBBJ was wet and sloppy with lots of tongue just the way I like it. Didn’t take long at all for little eslguy to pop his cork. We parted ways and I headed for home satisfied. About half way there I stick my hand in the pants pocket my $ should be in and of course it was gone. I don’t know who I’m madder at the SW or myself. Seems almost every time I pick up a BSW I either get attitude or an attempted rob. Hope you guys find this information useful.
Eslguy
..Sorry to hear, and there are many. many tips and ways to do things. I don't go to the extreme, and split the difference on being prepared.
That said, I have my minimum $20 and a few ones in my right pocket, and keep a $10, perhaps another $20 in my left pocket
Wallet, watch, cellphone goes behind in back seat floor (rob purposes as well as 'keeping a minimum deal in order')
I learned a long time ago that they are looking AT EVERYTHING that comes out of that pocket, as well as the surroundings.
If it's a $20 and a few singles, they are less likely to go for much higher amount. If they see extra $20's, even as much as a tenspot, you leave it open to what doesn't need to be.
I don't go overboard on it, but those are the basics for mongering, and I've found out the hard way more than once.
That said, when I'm mongering, One Leo alert is MORE than enough for me to go somewhere else on and write that area off for hours, if not the day. If they've marked the funds to 'clean up an area, they want more than just one bust.
Goat Roper
10-19-08, 19:03
Is it my imagination or is LEO partying in the 'hood a lot lately?
I've been scared off a few times in the past week?
Woah Woah Woah Big. I simply cut and pasted what was posted on Craigslist about Shorty A onto here. I knew her because of the discussion about her on here.
That post was NOT my writing. Just me bringing it to the attention of this board. I did that because Ashley is known here.
Sorry for any confusion. But again. The CL post was NOT by me.
Fromtheback
10-20-08, 23:05
She said that's how she spells it, anyway!!
Picked her up off a side street near N 9th. Went over to the notel and negotiated $25 for BBBJ and CFS. Pretty unenthusiastic BJ, but the 'tang was off the hook!
I love it when I get to hang out in town for a bit!
Hrny Oldman
10-21-08, 10:18
She said that's how she spells it, anyway!!
Picked her up off a side street near N 9th. Went over to the notel and negotiated $25 for BBBJ and CFS. Pretty unenthusiastic BJ, but the 'tang was off the hook!
I love it when I get to hang out in town for a bit!She looks very good,however you didn't give many details about if she is clean and d\d free
Cronic 420
10-21-08, 15:42
good find, but thay girl looks alittle young, maybe ****? looks like she snuck out of her trailer while her parents were sleeping.
Woah Woah Woah Big. I simply cut and pasted what was posted on Craigslist about Shorty A onto here. I knew her because of the discussion about her on here.
That post was NOT my writing. Just me bringing it to the attention of this board. I did that because Ashley is known here.
Sorry for any confusion. But again. The CL post was NOT by me.ILside. Did not mean to impune you at all
The idiot you were quoting has been spewing for weeks on CL
I wonder who he is pimping that he feels the need to run down every provider he sees, or does he actually see them?
I wonder who works the keyboard for him?
Went over to check it out and still loud, bright, and a very drunk and pushy girl with rock hard fakes trying to get me to buy shots and a private dance. They've got private rooms with a bed and Mr Jackson and Mr Grant will get you in the door, with a "tip" for the girl you can get "anything you want". Too rich for my blood.
Went back to Roxy's and met a little (4'10 1/2") Japanese girl named Thi (? spelling) who was very accomodating on the floor and in a private dance. Would love to have her off premisis for a few hours. Very sweet young lady.
Saw one BSW on 3, very scary looking, rest of the area was dead.
PT's Centreville was the slowest I've ever seen it with only about 1/2 dozen couples on the swingers stage and a drape around it so you can't see what's taking place. Didn't stay long.
Friend from out of town had a blast! Wants to come back. I'd rather go back to KC!
Goat Roper
10-24-08, 18:15
Went to the East Side for a little noontime cruise. Drove up CR from 203 and only saw LEO. Cruised up Rt 3 to Brooklyn and saw a BSW (same scary one Jasper saw yesterday, I bet), but nothing else.
Drove back down to 9th and saw Makya. Turned around past the RR trestle but she was gone. Cruised around and saw two BSW (one shouting to herself) and a WSW, but not ones I would be interested in.
Went back an hour or so later and saw Makya again. Turned around at St. Clair Ave, but POOF she was gone! Saw the same other SWs, but went back to the West side.
I'd like to date Makya if I can find her!.
Country Boy #3
10-25-08, 19:13
Anyone in Roxy's last weekend? Riley had a very cute brunette with her. Watching those two eat each others pussy was awesome. I quit going to Roxy's but I'm hooked again.
Anyone seen Kris or Glenda lately? I saw Kris about a month ago on Exchage and 4th. Had a real nice time. Her phone goes straight to a full voicemail. Still trying to reconnect with my ol' favorite Glenda.
Larks Tongue
10-26-08, 00:29
Anyone in Roxy's last weekend? Riley had a very cute brunette with her. Watching those two eat each others pussy was awesome. I quit going to Roxy's but I'm hooked again.
It's torture watching two ladies enjoy themselves like that. I'd want to join in the fun.
Luv Fkemall
10-30-08, 14:27
I cruised Exchange and the 9th street area twice this week to checkout the talent. I couldn't stop as I was on my way through for appointments.These were recon missions. At about 3:30 pm both Monday and Wednesday I saw Makya on a side street standing in front of a house. It would be the street south of the little convenience store(sorry did not see a street sign). She can be difficult to spot because the street has a lot of overgrown trees on it.
I think this may be her "corner".
I Poundhard314
10-31-08, 21:11
double post
I Poundhard314
10-31-08, 21:26
Got off from my f/t job at 3:00 and was suppose to go to my p/t job but they called and said no work today, so I decided to monger. I live in STL so I hit up the mlk stroll first. Saw what appeared to be a BSW and WSW talking to some dude on a stoop at mlk and academy (but who knows I'm new at this). Did a you turn and she was still talking to this cat so I kept on driving. So I hit up the east side (9th and exchange). Didn't see any leo at all this was around 5:30 pm. Hit a couple of corners and saw WSW Jennifer. She looked ok from a distance but when she got in whole different story (to me at least) plus she was trying to go. 35 and I wanted to go. 20, so I kicked her out. Drove to the metro link and posted up there for 5 min before I gave it another try. Got back on exchange and saw the infamous La La or Leya. She was walking up the next street over from Lynch. Very cute girl btw. We nogitated on. 20 and drove and parked not to far from her uncles house. Of couse she had to get a hit off first, even though I prefered her not to. I wanted a BJ but she said it had to be covered which is cool but I knew that it was gonna be a challenge for me to get hard. So when that didn't work she gave me a couple of slurps uncovered and I achieved a semi. At that point she ask was I ready to fuck. In my mind I'm thinkin how are we going to do this because I have a sports car. So to make a long story short I wasn't able to get hard. But for that split sec. That she gave me uncovered more than likely I will hook up with her again and get a room where I will be more relaxed. Btw she didn't ask me to drive her anywhere but she did talk alot. Dropped her back off where I got her and went back to stl.
Ok, so I thought that I would give Makya a try. We negotiated for. 7 and after I gave her the $, she said that she had her period and said that I would have to settle on a BJ. I told her forget it and if she did not give me her money back, she could walk back. After a lot of arguing, that is what happened. I suppose she may be alright at other times. However, I think I am going to get my service up front next time. I had the same problem with Shorty A a couple of years ago. I guess that is just one of the many hazards with mongering on the east side.
I cruised Exchange and the 9th street area twice this week to checkout the talent. I couldn't stop as I was on my way through for appointments.These were recon missions. At about 3:30 pm both Monday and Wednesday I saw Makya on a side street standing in front of a house. It would be the street south of the little convenience store(sorry did not see a street sign). She can be difficult to spot because the street has a lot of overgrown trees on it.
I think this may be her "corner".
Luv Fkemall
11-03-08, 13:48
thanks for the warning. I have been wanting to try her but will be extra diligent if I do.
Mick11,
How far did she have to walk back? I'm thinking that you probably didn't drive far enough from where you picked her up.
KS
Ok, so I thought that I would give Makya a try. We negotiated for. 7 and after I gave her the $, she said that she had her period and said that I would have to settle on a BJ. I told her forget it and if she did not give me her money back, she could walk back. After a lot of arguing, that is what happened. I suppose she may be alright at other times. However, I think I am going to get my service up front next time. I had the same problem with Shorty A a couple of years ago. I guess that is just one of the many hazards with mongering on the east side.
Well Kemo Sabe,
believe it or not, she was about 3 miles away from where I picked her up and from where she was she was not even sure how to get back. I did point her in the right direction. I was going to tell her "man" where to find her, but I could not find him. Like I said, maybe she will be alright in a different circumstance, but I think that it is service up front for me.
Mick11,
How far did she have to walk back? I'm thinking that you probably didn't drive far enough from where you picked her up.
KS
Took a drive down 9th on Wednesday about 2:15 PM and saw nothing. Went over to Dollies for a while and came back up Collinsville Rd to 9th. Saw a BSW about 1 block west of 203. Saw 3 more BSW's along 9th.
Believe it or not, I went back this morning to see if I could date Makya again. She was not around. However I did see Shorty A. I had not seen her around. She said that she had been here all along. She now has a new 2 m. O. And all is well.
We agreed on. 6 and the service was very good. No tricky business.
I asked about Makya and Shorty said that the police had actually come and picked her up. He is in a cell waiting for the paper work to be returned to her family in Kentucky. Her real name is Melissa ___(I cannot remember the last name). She does not have a child and she is actually 17.
Take this for what it is. I cannot swear to the truthfullenss of any of it.
As for Shorty, well I have no compaints. I do know that she was a ditcher in the past. Hopefully, she is past that.
Hi everyone,
I've been away from the scene for a while. Cruised the east side this morning for the first time in months. Saw a thin platinum blond on CR near Lynch. Turned out to be Patty. I hadn't seen her in over a year. Her body looked as good as ever but her face has gotten very haggard and road-worn. The life style really takes a toll on them after a while.
Patty claims she has been away for several months and then came back for the last week and a half. Says she has a new man and is living in Springfield, IL. Claims she stays straight for months at a time and then comes down to binge on crack for a week or two and then goes back. Well, maybe, but her face is that of a full-time SW. Of course, she is around 40.
Did a motel date in Fairmont for .5 + .1 tip. Had trouble getting hard due to cold medicine. She was very patient and accommodating. Easy to talk to. Patty is always worth picking up.
Tried dropping her off at Exchange and 13th, but a state trooper was cruising down Exchange right in front of us. She said to keep driving. He turned left on 13th; we went to 15th and turned left. We see him again at corner of 15th and Lake. We take some turns and are coming up Exchange toward 9th when we see him going west on 9th toward St. Claire. I drop her off on Exchange just short of 9th.
She says she knows every cop and has fucked all of them. I'm not surprised that those hypocrites partake of the same thing they bust us for. She also says that lately the cops have been waiting for guys to drop off the girl and then they pull the guy over. I ask what do they do with the guy then and she doesn't know. So just a heads up especially if you are "ridin' dirty" or anything.
As for Shorty, well I have no compaints. I do know that she was a ditcher in the past. Hopefully, she is past that.There a few girls you can trust not to rip you off. I would put Jennifer, Shannon, and Patty in that group. There are other girls who have favorite customers they treat well but anyone else is fair game. Then there are some who simply are opportunists. They will rip you off if you give them an opportunity but if not they will provide the agreed on service, albeit reluctantly at times. I would put Shorty A, Amanda, etc. in this group. Maybe also Lala, but she has the potential to be really dangerous depending on the circumstances.
Tommy Boy,
It is amazing how close your appraisal is to mine. I Think that Amanda is the same girl as Miranda. I think that the dagerous thing about La La is that she acts on impulse and does not consider the consequenses. I have no experience with Patty.
There a few girls you can trust not to rip you off. I would put Jennifer, Shannon, and Patty in that group. There are other girls who have favorite customers they treat well but anyone else is fair game. Then there are some who simply are opportunists. They will rip you off if you give them an opportunity but if not they will provide the agreed on service, albeit reluctantly at times. I would put Shorty A, Amanda, etc. in this group. Maybe also Lala, but she has the potential to be really dangerous depending on the circumstances.
Country Boy #3
11-13-08, 00:33
There's a blast from the past. I haven't seen her since last December, but I always figured she would be back. Several months ago, I was at the stop sign on 9th, by the night club. I could almost swear she pulled up beside me. I only caught a glimpse of her. She went on towards E. ST. Louis, but I lost track of were she went.
I made several laps in the area at 4:30 PM. Was looking for Mel but not out. Saw a thin BSW in matching jeans and jean jacket( had a pattern) with a very nice butt and as I was leaving saw a VERY thin WSW who was walking with short & slow steps. Both near the main corner.
Not what I wanted.
Be careful out there.
Who is Mel? The only girl I've heard of going by Mel was Melissa, rip.
I made several laps in the area at 4:30 PM. Was looking for Mel but not out. Saw a thin BSW in matching jeans and jean jacket( had a pattern) with a very nice butt and as I was leaving saw a VERY thin WSW who was walking with short & slow steps. Both near the main corner.
Not what I wanted.
Be careful out there.
Who is Mel? The only girl I've heard of going by Mel was Melissa, rip.
I thought the same thing Tommy Boy. I was hoping for a split second that just maybe she was still with us, but I know that's not true.
It was warmer yesterday and I took a drive. The usual haunts were deserted but after a couple laps several gals appeared. I picked up WSW Ashley who provide one of the lamest BJ's I have ever had. It felt like an assault and she was in a huge rush. Said no CIM because she has to kiss her babies with that mouth. Whatever.
Maybe she would be a better notel date as she is attractive.
I asked about Mellissa and was promptly told she was deceased. I told her I has just seen Melissa a few weeks ago and Ashley said the deceased Mellissa passed several years ago. I am confused but there was nobody out at the usual place.
Goat Roper
11-20-08, 22:53
Heard a WSW named Jenna and her pimp rolled some guy, took his wallet and computer. Guy called police and while the report was being taken, the Pimp was arrested for fighting and had the hobbiest's wallet and cc's on him. Leo is still lookig for Jenna and the computer.
Be careful out there!
I picked up WSW Ashley who provide one of the lamest BJ's I have ever had.
Pete, there's a second, different Ashley on the East Side that gives great head with DT. Both Ashley's are short, 20-something ladies. - Rosco
Early last month when I was in town, something strange happened. While I was picking up a WSW on the East Side, her older Black friend shouts, "Wait a second," and she came over to my car. Talking to the WSW, the friend said through the car window, "Ask him if he knows where to get a gram of cocaine." How am I suppose to know {chuckle}? Just 'cause I drive a nice car and am a hip-looking guy doesn't mean I know where to score coke {Lol}. Very odd that they'd be discussing drugs so openly, I thought.
Along these lines, I recently enjoyed watching the movies "Spun" and "Havoc." There are prostitutes, sex, drugs, and Rock 'n' Roll aplenty in these flicks. Wooh(!) actors Anne Hathaway and Bijou Phillips are really hot little mamas. You see everything on them but their pussy cats.
I tell ya, I think these working girls and wild movies are having a bad influence on me {Lol}; I'm now thinking of trying marijuana (and possibly coke) for the first time (just out of curiosity). At 40 years of age, I've never tried either, though I have had pot offerred to me a few times when I was in school, but I always politely turned it down. - Rosco
The Mel that most of us here remember died 12/02/07, she was 30 years old. Below link is photo from 2006 Kabo Sport report. RIP
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=31323
Eslguy
Well,
I am glad that the Mellissa I have been looking for recently is not the same as the poor deceased lady. But I was by the house next to the tracks again today with no luck. I did see an attractive BSW on Exchange but she was gone by the time I circled. A heavy WSW that I have seen in the past (not impressed) was the only other gal out near noon.
Think it's just the weather or is LE out heavier?
Member #3213
11-25-08, 18:05
Well, after a long period of mongering and fun without any problems or major issues, it finally happened. I got robbed and threatened with blackmail.
Last weekend, I decided to visit the spa located in Brooklyn (I am purposely NOT naming the establishment, but anyone familiar with the area can figure it out). I chose a girl, went to the room, and was directed to get comfy before laying on the table for my massage. The masseuse then excused herself and left the room for 2 or 3 minutes. When she returned, she was very pushy and descriptive about "what we could do", and seemed to be rushing the time. I explained to her that her pushiness was making the experience less enjoyable. She seemed to relax and continued. We engaged in small talk, then negotiated a happy ending for a fair $ exchange. The massage was mediocre, the HE was mediocre (I'm being generous at that), and I was overall disappointed in the service. After we finished, I got dressed and was rushed out the door.
I hopped in my car, bound for greener pastures, I hoped. While driving, I noticed my phone was not in my jacket pocket. I pulled over and checked the rest of the car for it. No phone. I was sure I had it in my jacket pocket when I went in the spa. I decided it must have fallen out of my pocket at the spa, and turned around.
I explained to the house-mom that I may have dropped my phone in the room a short while ago when I was there. She informed me that it would cost $60 to get back in the door to go look. I complained, and my masseuse happened to walk by in view, with a phone identical to mine in her hand. I mentioned to her that she appeared to have my phone, and I would like it back. She told me it would cost me a $400 finders fee. I thought she was joking. She was not. The conversation began to escalate to "argument" status, at which point I told both ladies I would just call my cell provider and report the phone stolen, and turned around to leave. A large black man came in, and told me he saw my "massage", and that if I didn't pay him $500, he would be sharing details of my adventure with everyone I knew. I declined his offer, and told him he didn't know anything about me or my massage. Imagine my surprise when he told me, in great detail, exactly what had transpired during my "massage". I was stunned. I decided to cut my losses and head away from Brooklyn. He turned away, yelling to the spa, and I got in my car and left.
My monger-mojo was done for the night, so I headed home. Upon arriving at home, I found I had 7 messages on my answering machine. They were all from the masseuse and the bouncer/security guy, and were all threatening to expose my activities to my contacts in my phone if I didn't pay them the $500. I didn't return their calls.
Not surprisingly, Sunday I got a few calls from friends and family telling me that someone had called them and wanted them to know that I was a pervert. I told everyone I was out Saturday night and my phone was stolen, and that the thief is attempting to fleece me for money for its return. I don't think any damage has been done. Yet.
I've replaced my phone already (it actually worked out for the better in the end, because I got the new Blackberry Storm), spoken to the people that were called Sunday, and decided I won't ever return to Brooklyn.
I've never had any trouble in a spa like this, much less a strip club. In hindsight, I never should have taken my phone in with me. I thought I was preventing my car from getting broken into by carrying my phone with me. Also, has anyone else ever had experience with their sessions being recorded or viewed by a 3rd party? It blows me away to wonder how many other people might have been watching my session, or others' sessions that night. And, has anyone else been subjected to this type of extortion?
Peace, and happy mongering to everyone. I'm going under the radar for a while.
I haven't been to this spa in ages. When I did venture that way the service it was hit and miss with more miss than hit and as such have not been back. Sorry to hear about your problem but do appreciate you sharing. The only spa I now go to is VIP over in Centerville. Have never had a problem in the 10 years I've been going to this place but then again I alway leave my cell phone in the car.
Well, after a long period of mongering and fun without any problems or major issues, it finally happened. I got robbed and threatened with blackmail.
Last weekend, I decided to visit the spa located in Brooklyn (I am purposely NOT naming the establishment, but anyone familiar with the area can figure it out). I chose a girl, went to the room, and was directed to get comfy before laying on the table for my massage. The masseuse then excused herself and left the room for 2 or 3 minutes. When she returned, she was very pushy and descriptive about "what we could do", and seemed to be rushing the time. I explained to her that her pushiness was making the experience less enjoyable. She seemed to relax and continued. We engaged in small talk, then negotiated a happy ending for a fair $ exchange. The massage was mediocre, the HE was mediocre (I'm being generous at that), and I was overall disappointed in the service. After we finished, I got dressed and was rushed out the door.
I hopped in my car, bound for greener pastures, I hoped. While driving, I noticed my phone was not in my jacket pocket. I pulled over and checked the rest of the car for it. No phone. I was sure I had it in my jacket pocket when I went in the spa. I decided it must have fallen out of my pocket at the spa, and turned around.
I explained to the house-mom that I may have dropped my phone in the room a short while ago when I was there. She informed me that it would cost $60 to get back in the door to go look. I complained, and my masseuse happened to walk by in view, with a phone identical to mine in her hand. I mentioned to her that she appeared to have my phone, and I would like it back. She told me it would cost me a $400 finders fee. I thought she was joking. She was not. The conversation began to escalate to "argument" status, at which point I told both ladies I would just call my cell provider and report the phone stolen, and turned around to leave. A large black man came in, and told me he saw my "massage", and that if I didn't pay him $500, he would be sharing details of my adventure with everyone I knew. I declined his offer, and told him he didn't know anything about me or my massage. Imagine my surprise when he told me, in great detail, exactly what had transpired during my "massage". I was stunned. I decided to cut my losses and head away from Brooklyn. He turned away, yelling to the spa, and I got in my car and left.
My monger-mojo was done for the night, so I headed home. Upon arriving at home, I found I had 7 messages on my answering machine. They were all from the masseuse and the bouncer/security guy, and were all threatening to expose my activities to my contacts in my phone if I didn't pay them the $500. I didn't return their calls.
Not surprisingly, Sunday I got a few calls from friends and family telling me that someone had called them and wanted them to know that I was a pervert. I told everyone I was out Saturday night and my phone was stolen, and that the thief is attempting to fleece me for money for its return. I don't think any damage has been done. Yet.
I've replaced my phone already (it actually worked out for the better in the end, because I got the new Blackberry Storm), spoken to the people that were called Sunday, and decided I won't ever return to Brooklyn.
I've never had any trouble in a spa like this, much less a strip club. In hindsight, I never should have taken my phone in with me. I thought I was preventing my car from getting broken into by carrying my phone with me. Also, has anyone else ever had experience with their sessions being recorded or viewed by a 3rd party? It blows me away to wonder how many other people might have been watching my session, or others' sessions that night. And, has anyone else been subjected to this type of extortion?
Peace, and happy mongering to everyone. I'm going under the radar for a while.
Member #3213,
What happened to you is a good reason many of us carry a monger phone. That's a cheap minute phone that you can buy from Walmart and other stores. Use it for mongering only. Leave your regular phone at home or locked away somewhere.
I have lost a phone at least twice in the stroll area. I'm glad that they didn't have phone numbers for my family, friends and business associates stored in them.
If your blackberry is lost in the hood, the police may be able to trace it back to you. Not a good thing to have happen in a high crime area. The minute phone can never be traced back to you as long as you pay cash for the phone and refill cards. You must be careful never to use it to place calls to people who know your name and other things about you.
Also, one time I caught a girl looking at the phone list in my phone.
KS
Well, after a long period of mongering and fun without any problems or major issues, it finally happened. I got robbed and threatened with blackmail.
Last weekend, I decided to visit the spa located in Brooklyn (I am purposely NOT naming the establishment, but anyone familiar with the area can figure it out). I chose a girl, went to the room, and was directed to get comfy before laying on the table for my massage. The masseuse then excused herself and left the room for 2 or 3 minutes. When she returned, she was very pushy and descriptive about "what we could do", and seemed to be rushing the time. I explained to her that her pushiness was making the experience less enjoyable. She seemed to relax and continued. We engaged in small talk, then negotiated a happy ending for a fair $ exchange. The massage was mediocre, the HE was mediocre (I'm being generous at that), and I was overall disappointed in the service. After we finished, I got dressed and was rushed out the door.
I hopped in my car, bound for greener pastures, I hoped. While driving, I noticed my phone was not in my jacket pocket. I pulled over and checked the rest of the car for it. No phone. I was sure I had it in my jacket pocket when I went in the spa. I decided it must have fallen out of my pocket at the spa, and turned around.
I explained to the house-mom that I may have dropped my phone in the room a short while ago when I was there. She informed me that it would cost $60 to get back in the door to go look. I complained, and my masseuse happened to walk by in view, with a phone identical to mine in her hand. I mentioned to her that she appeared to have my phone, and I would like it back. She told me it would cost me a $400 finders fee. I thought she was joking. She was not. The conversation began to escalate to "argument" status, at which point I told both ladies I would just call my cell provider and report the phone stolen, and turned around to leave. A large black man came in, and told me he saw my "massage", and that if I didn't pay him $500, he would be sharing details of my adventure with everyone I knew. I declined his offer, and told him he didn't know anything about me or my massage. Imagine my surprise when he told me, in great detail, exactly what had transpired during my "massage". I was stunned. I decided to cut my losses and head away from Brooklyn. He turned away, yelling to the spa, and I got in my car and left.
My monger-mojo was done for the night, so I headed home. Upon arriving at home, I found I had 7 messages on my answering machine. They were all from the masseuse and the bouncer/security guy, and were all threatening to expose my activities to my contacts in my phone if I didn't pay them the $500. I didn't return their calls.
Not surprisingly, Sunday I got a few calls from friends and family telling me that someone had called them and wanted them to know that I was a pervert. I told everyone I was out Saturday night and my phone was stolen, and that the thief is attempting to fleece me for money for its return. I don't think any damage has been done. Yet.
I've replaced my phone already (it actually worked out for the better in the end, because I got the new Blackberry Storm), spoken to the people that were called Sunday, and decided I won't ever return to Brooklyn.
I've never had any trouble in a spa like this, much less a strip club. In hindsight, I never should have taken my phone in with me. I thought I was preventing my car from getting broken into by carrying my phone with me. Also, has anyone else ever had experience with their sessions being recorded or viewed by a 3rd party? It blows me away to wonder how many other people might have been watching my session, or others' sessions that night. And, has anyone else been subjected to this type of extortion?
Peace, and happy mongering to everyone. I'm going under the radar for a while.
Member #3213,
What happened to you is a good reason many of us carry a monger phone. That's a cheap minute phone that you can buy from Walmart and other stores. Use it for mongering only. Leave your regular phone at home or locked away somewhere.
KS
I can agree with NOT carrying a cell phone into a massage parlor but lets not get away from the real issue here and offer this guy some support!
I say we all stop doing business with this particular parlor and hope to god noone else was watched/taped or robbed.... Hell, I'd go the next step and let them know that word is spreading about their tactics and tell em to take their business and shove it up their asses!!!!
I for one and glad your issue wasn't worse and you got out safely!!!
We can't be careful enough....
Nukmed
Badbear2000
11-25-08, 22:19
I will be leaving the country to live soon. If you would like send me the name of the spa. I have no wife or girl friend here and i will set these people up to be booked for black mail. I use to be an under cover private dick so I know what it takes
Member #3213,
What happened to you is a good reason many of us carry a monger phone. That's a cheap minute phone that you can buy from Walmart and other stores. Use it for mongering only. Leave your regular phone at home or locked away somewhere.
I have lost a phone at least twice in the stroll area. I'm glad that they didn't have phone numbers for my family, friends and business associates stored in them.
If your blackberry is lost in the hood, the police may be able to trace it back to you. Not a good thing to have happen in a high crime area. The minute phone can never be traced back to you as long as you pay cash for the phone and refill cards. You must be careful never to use it to place calls to people who know your name and other things about you.
Also, one time I caught a girl looking at the phone list in my phone.
KS
he told me he saw my "massage", and that if I didn't pay him $500, he would be sharing details of my adventure with everyone I knew. I declined his offer, and told him he didn't know anything about me or my massage. Imagine my surprise when he told me, in great detail, exactly what had transpired during my "massage". I was stunned.
That's rough. You might want to consider complaining to the owner. He might fire the blackmailing pair. I wonder if he was watching you through a peephole or a video camera.
Back in 1999 a massage parlor called "Come Again" (located just outside the northeast boundary line of Columbia, Missouri) got raided by police.
Police discovered the man who ran the parlor was secretly videotaping customers! I had a session there only 7 days before the raid.
Here's the wild story:
Deputies bust alleged house of prostitution
Sheriff’s detectives say more arrests are possible as they continue to review more than 540 hours of videotape seized from an alleged house of prostitution during a raid on Friday night.
Five people were arrested late Friday at a massage parlor in what investigators say is a prostitution case that could evolve to include charges of child pornography. Detectives said owners of the establishment used an "out-of-sight" video camera to make 91 tapes that show women — one of them possibly a juvenile — and their clients having sex.
Investigators say the involvement of a juvenile means more serious charges are possible, including the use of a minor as a prostitute and promoting child pornography.
All of those arrested — James and Anna Linzie, Starrla Hite, Julia Miles and Kristi Phelan — reside at 6006 Sharon Lane, a house northeast of Columbia near Brown Station Road. The home also serves as Come Again Massage.
James Linzie, 58, and his wife, Anna Linzie, 28, each were charged with the felony promotion of prostitution. Hite, 17; Miles, 18; and Phelan, 24; were charged with misdemeanor prostitution.
The Linzies were released from Boone County Jail on $5,000 bond and the others on $500 bond.
The Boone County Sheriff’s Department conducted a monthlong investigation prompted by neighbors’ complaints and other information that suggested a juvenile was working at the establishment, sheriff’s detective Ken Kreigh said.
"There were rumors floating around about this videotaping," Kreigh said yesterday. "But I was still a little surprised when I actually saw it. I thought that was street talk. I’ve done this thing quite a bit, and I’ve never seen anything like this."
Kreigh said investigators have confirmed a juvenile was working at the home as a prostitute, but she had not been found by last night. The investigation is ongoing, Kreigh said, and charges of using a minor as a prostitute and promoting child pornography are possible. Both would carry a possible punishment of up to 15 years in prison.
Kreigh also noted that Hite and Miles may be considered minors under prostitution laws.
Kreigh said investigators are still reviewing all 91 six-hour tapes.
"If those young girls are on the videos, this is the most serious crime of the bunch," he said. "And my gut feeling is that we’ll have a case."
Kreigh said he believed the prostitutes and clients were unaware they were being taped, considering the video camera aimed at the bed was small and out of sight.
After performing surveillance, the sheriff’s drug-enforcement unit obtained a warrant and seized evidence, including financial records, condoms, a sophisticated video camera and taping system and the tapes, Kreigh said. Kreigh said the financial records showed condom purchases as business expenses.
Kreigh said investigators were able to photograph possible patrons of the parlor. Prosecutors, he said, will decide whether the men in the videos will be charged. Much of that will depend on what the tapes show.
Some Hillview Acres residents area weren’t too surprised at the arrests. All refused to give their names, fearing retaliation.
"Really?" said a woman who lives near the parlor. "It’s about time."
Another woman said everyone in her neighborhood knew about the house. "It’s in the paper under Come Again. The name kind of says it all. They didn’t hide it."
# # # # # # # # # # # # # # #
The first image below is the man who owned the parlor, the second image is his wife, and the other images are some of the prostitutes who worked at the parlor, and an image of the house/parlor itself.
Check out the story at the following Tribune link, which includes photographs of the prostitutes.
http://www.columbiatribune.com/1999/jan/19990131news20.htm
And here are a couple followups:
http://www.columbiatribune.com/1999/feb/19990211news02.htm
http://www.columbiatribune.com/1999/nov/19991123news01.htm
- Rosco
Last week had a disappointed experience with a cute good looking skinny BSW 22-24 y/o with some scar in her face (she said her name was La La). She was walking on 9th east of Exchange. She tells me she has a place and we went. I think it was close to 15th or 18th and Lynch or Lake. The place was a camper (small motor home) and a 50-55 y/o black man was there (uncle? ). We agreed on. 4 FS and she requested when we arrived there. She left and came back 2 minutes later (she went to get crack, I started not to like the situation). From there she was only focused on doing the crack thing. She asked the uncle to leave and he did wait just outside very cold. For 30+ minutes she was weird and we did not do anything, she was just doing her crack things, and she was requesting more money that I declined. The uncle then came back inside and she asked me to leave her back in the place where I met her. I told her she had not been nice to me, did not do anything and she took the. 4 and I was leaving alone, but she sounded threatening and told me if I wanted my car to be ok better be good. I did not want to find out what she meant. Before I noticed she carries in her purse I believe a gun. I decided to follow what she said and drop her soon. Few blocks from her place in a bar she asked me to drop her as a friend of her passed. Inside my car she was looking all around, before leaving she demanded. 05 that she saw, I declined and she demanded seriously, since she was leaving and she had a weapon and under the influence of the drugs and she looked very threatening and bossy and demanding I better gave her the. 05 and I left quickly. During the time she was with her uncle I noticed the uncle respects her, I guess sometimes she becomes crazy even with him that he is somehow scared, or if not they both are good partners pretending. The uncle always behaved ok with me. Be careful with that girl. I am glad my experienced did not end that bad I imagine could be much worse. BTW, I have a question for experienced people, is it a bad idea to go to the place of a girl? And how to avoid paying upfront when they say that is the way they always do, what to tell them?
Cat Daddy #2
11-26-08, 11:50
Last week had a disappointed experience with a cute good looking skinny BSW 22-24 y/o with some scar in her face (she said her name was La La). She was walking on 9th east of Exchange. She tells me she has a place and we went. I think it was close to 15th or 18th and Lynch or Lake. The place was a camper (small motor home) and a 50-55 y/o black man was there (uncle? ). We agreed on. 4 FS and she requested when we arrived there. She left and came back 2 minutes later (she went to get crack, I started not to like the situation). From there she was only focused on doing the crack thing. She asked the uncle to leave and he did wait just outside very cold. For 30+ minutes she was weird and we did not do anything, she was just doing her crack things, and she was requesting more money that I declined. The uncle then came back inside and she asked me to leave her back in the place where I met her. I told her she had not been nice to me, did not do anything and she took the. 4 and I was leaving alone, but she sounded threatening and told me if I wanted my car to be ok better be good. I did not want to find out what she meant. Before I noticed she carries in her purse I believe a gun. I decided to follow what she said and drop her soon. Few blocks from her place in a bar she asked me to drop her as a friend of her passed. Inside my car she was looking all around, before leaving she demanded. 05 that she saw, I declined and she demanded seriously, since she was leaving and she had a weapon and under the influence of the drugs and she looked very threatening and bossy and demanding I better gave her the. 05 and I left quickly. During the time she was with her uncle I noticed the uncle respects her, I guess sometimes she becomes crazy even with him that he is somehow scared, or if not they both are good partners pretending. The uncle always behaved ok with me. Be careful with that girl. I am glad my experienced did not end that bad I imagine could be much worse. BTW, I have a question for experienced people, is it a bad idea to go to the place of a girl? And how to avoid paying upfront when they say that is the way they always do, what to tell them?
Tell them if that"s what they always do then they can always do it without you. You got the money therefore you are the king that rule their world for the next few minutes. Your way or highway baby. As far going back to their location you are just asking for trouble. She rules in her castle therefore you rule in yours. Get a motel and do your thang. Less hassles and more fun. Give her the money upfront is cool but make sure she is getting undressed. If you get undressed 1st and she has your money she could just walk out of the room while you are naked. Date women with heels or flip flops or scandals. They can"t run fast with those. It wouldn"t be a bad idea to keep can of pepper spray in case you need to get rid of her and she won"t leave.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 4.1.4 Copyright © 2025 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.