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I rode up CR going east on saturday at 10pm and saw at least 5 or 6 sw's out walking around CR and Lynch ave. Got waves and The Look from 4. I didn't have the transportation
to pick anyone up or pen and paper to try and get numbers. :( So I rode on down CR pass the gas station towards the Relax Inn and saw 3 LE Dodge Chargers within a couple of miles. I made a safe U turn and headed back down CR and Lynch area and saw 4 sw's still out and waving.
UpForFun wrote, "So I rode on down [Collinsville Road] pass the [Phillips 66] gas station
towards the Relax Inn and saw 3 LE Dodge Chargers within a couple of miles."
Those 3 Dodge Charger police cars probably belong to the Fairmont City police department. I
saw'em too when I was in town. I don't think they monitor the girls on 9th Street, or
patrol there.
The municipal boundary between East St. Louis and Fairmont City is located about where that
train bridge crosses over 9th.
9th, of course, becomes Collinsville Road further north past the train bridge. Thank
goodness the Fairmont City cops keep their distance--9th is out of their jurisdiction, I
guess.
Fairmont City is significantly wealthier than East St. Louis. According to City-Data.com,
the median household income in Fairmont City is roughly $30 k, whereas it's about $23 k in
East St. Louis.
Both cities, however, have lost about 6 percent in population since 2000 (not at all a
good sign of future prosperity for Fairmont City). One can envision a day when the ladies
will be able to work the streets as freely in Fairmont City as they do today in
East St. Louis. At least it's possible.
If I were Fairmont City, I would be really worried about the population loss.
Will they be able to afford nice Charger police cars 20 years from now?
Taco Hunter
07-19-07, 13:18
Well they must have had a turnover at the jail because this morning about 6:30 am they were out everywhere from exchange down to the train trestle on CR at least 6-8 WSW including Jennifer, Shannon, and the new Ashley and 3-4 BSW sorry do not remember all of the names as their performance did not warrant remembering much other than the loss of money for a not so good time
I remember seeing a WSW at 9th and Exchange a few weeks ago who was relatively tall, wearing shorts, nice HWP figure, probably late 20's or early 30's, but had a huge sore on her upper lip, and lots of big, red bruises all over her bare legs. Maybe she shoots up drugs in her legs?
It was a sad site. Anybody know who I'm talking about?
I just wanted to make clear that the steak knife-carrying Crazy Jennifer that threatened to scratch my car if I didn't give her the 5 dollars showing in my hand IS NOT the same Jennifer that Tommy Boy has dated and described in earlier posts.
They are 2 totally different Jennifers. In his September 26, 2006 post, Tommy Boy described Pretty Jennifer as "a WSW (part Hispanic), dark hair, tall, thin, bigger tits than most thin girls, pretty face (one of the prettiest girls on the stroll), smiles a lot (very upbeat for someone in her circumstances). I'm guessing mid twenties."
My description of Crazy Jennifer, which can be found in a July 15, 2007 post, varies substantially from Tommy Boy's description of Pretty Jennifer. Crazy Jennifer is not part-Hispanic and neither is she thin and tall.
I did make a mistake when I said there was a photo of Pretty Jenn on here. I have not seen any photos of Pretty Jenn here. Maybe somebody should snap one and post.
In the future, when you mention a Jennifer in the forum, I would recommend distinguishing between the two Jenns.
As I said, Crazy Jenn apologized to me the following day, but I'm still none too pleased with her previous behavior.
For the newbies out there, never lett'em see any money. When some of them see money, they act like sharks at a feeding frenzy. Money, to them, means their next high, not their next pair of socks at Walmart ; - )
GrayTurner
07-21-07, 00:46
I was in StLouis Thursday and Friday. After reading much here about Brooklyn I decided to cross over and drive down Collinsville road. I was there Thursday about 1:30 pm and I have never seen so many streetwalkers in one place before. Unfortuneatly the quality was not as good as the quantity. There were 8 along CR and probably that many more down the side streets. On my second pass through I noticed a young blonde down the side streets and turned to pick her up. It turned out to be blonde Ashley who is pictured on a post here from several months ago. She is still a cute girl but is now rougher looking than the earlier photo. Her face is fine but her legs are all scratched and scarred up and her clothes were a mess. I am fairly new to the car date thing but she showed me a street that had access from only end. We drove down to a cross street that had a fence across one side and a log barrier on the other. After making a you-turn I parked faceing the open end of the street. Being the middle of the afternoon with the engine running and the doors locked I felt fairly secure. She did a fair BBBJCIM for. 3. She took it all the way but spit afterwards.
She asked to be let out on a side street where 2 black guys were sitting on wooden crates under a shade tree. There were other girls on the street. The 2 guys were probably the CFO and the security officer for the enterprise. (just my guess) I went back later about 8:00 after the storms passed through but had the same problem with quality. When you mix semi clean people in a dirty environment with a rain storm the results are not pretty.
I went back to my motel and called a CL girl. I will put that on the StLouis board.
First, a tip of the hat to all those mostly senior members who help the rest of us out on a regular basis.
I've been around a while and found this site not so long ago and found the advice really great. Again, thanks.
To my question. The recent raid at the trailer wash seems to have had the effect of running lots of girls to ground. I'm sure they will all reappear at some point but not seeing them in usual places at usual times (we are, after all, creatures of habit.) has certainly messed with my mongering.
Does anyone remember living through the aftermath of one of these before? Couple of weeks? a month?
I've seen Kelly a couple of times in the last few weeks (agree she's lost at least the mass of one other person and has a long way to go). She still gives among the best bbbjcim I've experienced. Enthusiasm has a lot to do with that. Cute face, dark hair, questionable hygeine, and still too big, but nice to talk with and like I said, great head.
Also picked up Patty on CR Saturday afternoon, by the house everyone talks about. She predicted everyone would lay low for another couple of weeks and then back to usual. I was in a hurry, so only bbbjcim with her, but I do look forward to spending a longer date with her. The reviews (just search for Patty here) are pretty good, and she was indeed friendly, chatty and definitely into making me happy. I will pick her up again. Besides, tall, athletic blondes with cute tits and hard nipples are hard to pass up.
I've seen crazy Heather walking up and down CR, mostly near the railroad bridge (before you get to the store), but having had a less than great experience there (earlier post of mine), I figured it wasn't worth the work. (My experience may be different than yours, and a Senior Member wrote a note after my report advising that if I let her calm down with a warm shower before the experience would be much better.) The body there is certainly worth some effort.
Still, the wash area, down first and exchange have all been dead.
I've seen Kelly a couple of times in the last few weeks (agree she's lost at least the mass of one other person and has a long way to go). She still gives among the best bbbjcim I've experienced. Enthusiasm has a lot to do with that. Cute face, dark hair, questionable hygeine, and still too big, but nice to talk with and like I said, great head.As long as Kelly’s been around guess you could call her an institution. Reviews are mostly negative here but my experiences have been similar to yours. Matter of fact she was my first date in the “hood” several years ago. Very good BBBJCIM but a spitter. :(
Patty is probably right about it taking a couple weeks to cool off. But then again that all depends on Leo doesn’t it.
I just wanted to make clear that the steak knife-carrying Crazy Jennifer that threatened to scratch my car if I didn't give her the 5 dollars showing in my hand IS NOT the same Jennifer that Tommy Boy has dated and described in earlier posts.
They are 2 totally different Jennifers. In his September 26, 2006 post, Tommy Boy described Pretty Jennifer as "a WSW (part Hispanic), dark hair, tall, thin, bigger tits than most thin girls, pretty face (one of the prettiest girls on the stroll), smiles a lot (very upbeat for someone in her circumstances). I'm guessing mid twenties."
My description of Crazy Jennifer, which can be found in a July 15, 2007 post, varies substantially from Tommy Boy's description of Pretty Jennifer. Crazy Jennifer is not part-Hispanic and neither is she thin and tall.
I did make a mistake when I said there was a photo of Pretty Jenn on here. I have not seen any photos of Pretty Jenn here. Maybe somebody should snap one and post.
In the future, when you mention a Jennifer in the forum, I would recommend distinguishing between the two Jenns.
As I said, Crazy Jenn apologized to me the following day, but I'm still none too pleased with her previous behavior.
For the newbies out there, never lett'em see any money. When some of them see money, they act like sharks at a feeding frenzy. Money, to them, means their next high, not their next pair of socks at Walmart ; - )
The crazy Jennifer you encountered might be the girl who also goes by Geneva. According to pretty Jennifer, Geneva started calling herself Jenny and eventually Jennifer because for a while guys were driving around asking for the first Jennifer. BTW, there is also a black Jennifer.
Willy Word
07-25-07, 16:26
First, a tip of the hat to all those mostly senior members who help the rest of us out on a regular basis.
I've been around a while and found this site not so long ago and found the advice really great. Again, thanks.
To my question. The recent raid at the trailer wash seems to have had the effect of running lots of girls to ground. I'm sure they will all reappear at some point but not seeing them in usual places at usual times (we are, after all, creatures of habit.) has certainly messed with my mongering.
Does anyone remember living through the aftermath of one of these before? Couple of weeks? a month?
I've seen Kelly a couple of times in the last few weeks (agree she's lost at least the mass of one other person and has a long way to go). She still gives among the best bbbjcim I've experienced. Enthusiasm has a lot to do with that. Cute face, dark hair, questionable hygeine, and still too big, but nice to talk with and like I said, great head.
Also picked up Patty on CR Saturday afternoon, by the house everyone talks about. She predicted everyone would lay low for another couple of weeks and then back to usual. I was in a hurry, so only bbbjcim with her, but I do look forward to spending a longer date with her. The reviews (just search for Patty here) are pretty good, and she was indeed friendly, chatty and definitely into making me happy. I will pick her up again. Besides, tall, athletic blondes with cute tits and hard nipples are hard to pass up.
I've seen crazy Heather walking up and down CR, mostly near the railroad bridge (before you get to the store), but having had a less than great experience there (earlier post of mine), I figured it wasn't worth the work. (My experience may be different than yours, and a Senior Member wrote a note after my report advising that if I let her calm down with a warm shower before the experience would be much better.) The body there is certainly worth some effort.
Still, the wash area, down first and exchange have all been dead.Exchange hasn't been dead completely cause I was out there last night and there was a hideous bsw and a super skinny wsw working it off and on. The wash rack was completely dead like you said though. There is big bsw that has been hogging my favorite spot to pick up a sw and that is at 9th and lynch... If anyone was out last night i'm talkin about the one in the white pants. I wish she would just leave. There was also two wsw workin down around the house you guys talk about on 9th but I waited it out and finally caught a good bsw on 9th just down from lynch. Caught a bbbj for 25 and the girl wasn't to bad.
Alex P Keaton
07-28-07, 23:34
Indeed, things are not dead. At 9:30 p.m. tonight, there was the BSW with white pants planted where 9th and Collinsville fork, there was a WSW with shoulder-length brown hair at 9th and Exchange, there were two BSW chatting up northbound traffic at 1st & St. Clair, and there was a WSW whose face I did not see, but whose body was of the Melissa or crazy Heather type, walking on Exchange between 3rd and 2nd. As you can tell, I was just window shopping on my way home, not intending to buy.
Willy Word
07-29-07, 05:46
Indeed, things are not dead. At 9:30 p.m. tonight, there was the BSW with white pants planted where 9th and Collinsville fork, there was a WSW with shoulder-length brown hair at 9th and Exchange, there were two BSW chatting up northbound traffic at 1st & St. Clair, and there was a WSW whose face I did not see, but whose body was of the Melissa or crazy Heather type, walking on Exchange between 3rd and 2nd. As you can tell, I was just window shopping on my way home, not intending to buy.Ya things are definitely not dead. I went out again tonight (Friday night) around 2am. 3am and there was action all over the place. Didn't see anything but one WSW on exchange but the wash rack had several BSW's and there were several BSW's at 9th and lynch. I have been out all week and have come to notice that there is a BSW t-girl that is working the bridge on route 3 right were you get on 55 toward the city at every night so beware unless that is your thing. But tonight there were SW's everywhere. I decided on a BSW at 9th and lynch who was short in a white skirt/dress that said her name was chocolate. Who knows how many SW's have this same street name but this girl was very good at giving a BBBJ for $20. We drove down lynch to lynch and 13th and pulled over around there to do the deed. She was on the pipe just like most of the SW's on cr rd but gave excellent service and I would definitely recomend her to anyone. Shoulder length hair and smelled very nice for a SW. Like I said though. There was action everywhere tonight as anyone who was out must have noticed. I have come to find that fri and sat on the weekends after midnight are the best times for SW's in the area.
Taco Hunter
07-30-07, 10:00
about 8:00pm on CR I picked up a WSW that said her name was sugar (HA!) and then seaid real name was charity (sure) claimed to be 20 y.o. from mississippi and to have been here 6 months however from the way she acted it may have actually been 6 hours she was very nervous but not to bad in the service area 2 jacksons for everything
Hey Chiapet9,
Does Sugar look anything like the girl in Lou's photo?
http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=21382
There was a girl from Mississippi, who first used the name Gigi then switched to Rachael. She was usually found on Collinsville Rd near Lake Ave.
The last time I saw this girl, she had lost some weight and actually looked much better than she did in the photo.
Taco Hunter
07-31-07, 08:21
No that is not the same this one is a lot smaller and better looking IMHO
Willy Word wrote, "We drove down lynch to Lynch and 13th and pulled over around there to do the deed."
Henis, do you take your ladies to Lynch and 13th to get a blow? <wink>
Willy Word, that's one helluva dangerous place to park and get a BJ, plus the lady directed you to that spot. You're very trusting. Who knows if the lady may have had her "chaperone" waiting there to meet you at 3 AM...
A triple shooting happened at Lynch and 13th (or Lake and 11th) not many months ago.
The ladies may not necessarily know about the shootings. When I mentioned it to Shannon in March, she hadn't heard about it at all, even though she's been working East St. Louis for over 2 years now.
Roscoe2,
I never do the deed anywhere near where I pick up a girl. I have found that most sw's will do a better job if you take them too far to walk back. It makes them less likely to do a Cash and Dash on you. And the distance makes you less likely to be robbed. I know about the triple shooting on 13th and Lynch. There were other shootings at this intersection too. There was a shooting on Exchange a few weeks ago and none of the SW's I picked up knew anything about it either. I hope that the Belleville News Democrat didn't make up a story!
BTW, I saw a cute red head walking near the Discrete Hotel Sunday around 7pm. Shannon told me the girl was called Dirty Red. This girl looks a lot like Crystal from a distance but seems to be a little taller and slimer.
Henis
Willy Word wrote, "We drove down lynch to Lynch and 13th and pulled over around there to do the deed."
Henis, do you take your ladies to Lynch and 13th to get a blow? <wink>
A triple shooting happened at Lynch and 13th (or Lake and 11th) not many months back.
The ladies may not necessarily know about the shootings. When I mentioned it to Shannon in March, she hadn't heard about it at all, even though she's been working East St. Louis for over 2 years now.
Willy Word
08-01-07, 02:08
Willy Word wrote, "We drove down lynch to Lynch and 13th and pulled over around there to do the deed."
Henis, do you take your ladies to Lynch and 13th to get a blow? <wink>
Willy Word, that's one helluva dangerous place to park and get a BJ, plus the lady directed you to that spot. You're very trusting. Who knows if the lady may have had her "chaperone" waiting there to meet you at 3 AM...
A triple shooting happened at Lynch and 13th (or Lake and 11th) not many months ago.
The ladies may not necessarily know about the shootings. When I mentioned it to Shannon in March, she hadn't heard about it at all, even though she's been working East St. Louis for over 2 years now.I wasn't right on the intersection but right near it on Lynch. Now that you mention it when someone walked by she was telling me watch him the whole time until he was gone. That is a hot little area your right to. I'm not sure about where the triple homicide happened but I did see all the stuffed animals on a pole on Lake St. So someone was definitely killed there. I will say that is a much riskier spot than I usually go and if you don't have street smarts and are from the suburbs I wouldn't recomend you go back in that area at all.
Willy Word
08-01-07, 02:16
Roscoe2,
I never do the deed anywhere near where I pick up a girl. I have found that most sw's will do a better job if you take them too far to walk back. It makes them less likely to do a Cash and Dash on you. And the distance makes you less likely to be robbed. I know about the triple shooting on 13th and Lynch. There were other shootings at this intersection too. There was a shooting on Exchange a few weeks ago and none of the SW's I picked up knew anything about it either. I hope that the Belleville News Democrat didn't make up a story!
BTW, I saw a cute red head walking near the Discrete Hotel Sunday around 7pm. Shannon told me the girl was called Dirty Red. This girl looks a lot like Crystal from a distance but seems to be a little taller and slimer.
HenisIf your talking about the one with curly red hair past her shoulders I have seen her out on Wednesday and Friday to. Wasn't my personal type though so I didn't approach her. She also wonders over to CR.
I would like to add one thing to my previous post because I noticed Rosco2 threw in a "wink" to you as if my post was suspect. I will let you in a secret. Police could care less about this message board. Every cop that patrols that area has known what spots the SW's are at for years. They aren't going to get on here read a post and now just go sit at lynch and 13th now and start waiting for a monger. It doesn't work that way in real life.
Alex P Keaton
08-01-07, 19:07
Red
was walking along 9th near Exchange around 3 p.m. today. Long, curly, dark red hair. Freckles. Dressed in all black, which can't be too pleasant for her in today's sun and heat.
Willy Word,
I forgot to mention that the red head had curly hair and she was wearing black clothes as well. Probably same girl that Alex P saw.
The stuffed animals that you see at 13th and Lynch are for a young man that was killed about two years ago. He lived near Exchange on 3rd Street.
The police may not need this board but I don't see why they wouldn't take advantage of accurate and timely info just like the rest of us!
was walking along 9th near Exchange around 3 p.m. today. Long, curly, dark red hair. Freckles. Dressed in all black, which can't be too pleasant for her in today's sun and heat.Also saw her about 6 PM on Wednesday on Exchange closer to the overpass. By the time I turned around, she was gone. From the car very cute. Will keep looking.
Last week I saw Sugar just off 9th Street a block or two west of the railroad bridge. I continued west, turned at the next street, then circled back around and pulled up next to her on the side street. She was with another girl, redhead, that I didn't recognize. They parted company and Sugar approached. She was looking pretty good and I unlocked the passenger door. She motioned for me to roll down the window which I did and she asks "you're not a cop are you?" in a very shaky voice. I told her "hell no" and told her to hurry up and get in. Then she tries to talk business through the window! She seemed very skitish and I politely told her that she could either get in or not but I wasn't sitting there any longer. She hesitated so I just drove away.
I wasn't worried about her being LE, and there were a few other girls out in the general area. But a LE could have drove by and at the very least caused a hassle. Plus when she leaned into the open window to talk I noticed some marks on her upper chest. It could have been a scar or perhaps a burn mark or some sort. It almost looked blistered though. So the combination of her behavior and the mark? sores? on her caused me to drive off.
I was disappointed because she did look cute and I would have really liked to have my nasty ways with her but I figured I would find someone else. Unfortunately my luck changed, I decided to go up Exchange where I saw no girls and then circle back around to 9th. Walking on Rt3 by 1st was Crystal but no way was I going to pick her up again! By the time I made it back around to 9th there wasn't a woman in sight! Sugar, the redhead, and two bsw I had seen had all disappeared in a matter of a few minutes. Of course it was a busy time of day so probably some lucky guys here snatched them up. I cruised a bit more and then gave up and headed to WP and the Hollywood Club.
Earlier this week I was back in the area again. This was mid afternoon with very nice weather but not a girl in site. Perhaps they are mostly working the nightshift these days to beat the heat! I cruised around some, went up to Brooklyn for a bit, and on my second pass down Exchange I spied a bsw down a sidestreet. I circled around and thought about just passing her by but wound up stopping. She said her name was "Lady", kinda cute looking with just a bit of extra cushion on her but with VERY short hair. She told me that she had just had it all cut off because it was just too hot. She also said that she had just gotten out for the day and I believed her too. She smelled very nice and freshly showered.
We hit one of the notels and had a pretty good time. She gave a good bbbj complete with some nice deep gagging. She took her time and really worked it good. The one negative was that she wouldn't allow me to cum in her mouth. I thought about just wanking it and blowing in her face but I allowed her to roll on a condom and we finished in miss. After a little bit of rest we went for round two. This were I got a little disappointed. She didn't do anything terribly wrong but it just seemed at this point to be in a rush. But she got the job done and it wasn't a bad job at that. Multiple positions and ended up pounding away at her doggie style. She wanted 70 for her time and efforts, I ended up giving her 80.
I seriously thinking that I will never be totally satisfied with sw. Its not that I'm not finding some decent gals who are willing to please but I suppose I'm wanting a little more out of it than just getting off. That's probably why I like more of an escort or even just naughty strip club experience. But sw are more affordable and can be fun in their own ways so I doubt that I give them up.
After we finished I asked Lady about Sugar. According to Lady, Sugar is kinda new to the streets but had been working at Club64 for a bit before it turned into "Thunder Road" which she said was supposed to be a biker bar. She also said that its going back to Club64 and being a strip club cause it lost a lot of money when it had changed. I told Lady about my experience with Sugar and she told me that she'd seen her talking to guys through car windows too. She agreed it wasn't a very smart thing to be doing.
I took Lady back to Exchange, let her out and headed for home. Not too bad of a day.
KC Questor
08-03-07, 01:57
After we finished I asked Lady about Sugar. According to Lady, Sugar is kinda new to the streets but had been working at Club64 for a bit before it turned into "Thunder Road" which she said was supposed to be a biker bar. She also said that its going back to Club64 and being a strip club cause it lost a lot of money when it had changed.
That's exactly what I heard about Club64. Lots of girls who had worked there moved on the Chameleon, Dollies, and C-Mowes, and I heard the story from a bunch of them. The owner wanted Thunder Road to be a bar. And then he decided he wanted it to be a "Coyote Ugly" type of club where the staff danced on the bar and got the crowd involved. As the customers faded away, of course so did the girls. Getting it back to the old Club64 strip club is gonna be tough, although I'm guessing that a lot of the C-Mowes girls will be happy to move back there.
Taco Hunter
08-03-07, 09:58
Jannsary you definatly met the sugar I originally posted about as she told me her pipe had burned her chest right between the girls and she pulled the same thing with me at my window very skitish asking if I was a cop But ended up getting in quickly it seems as if her pimp is near she will jump in but if he is not then she really wants to hesitate or not even talk he must be pushing her hard
also to the truckers this morning across from the wash rack the estl po-po were rousting truck drivers about 5:30 am
Alex P Keaton
08-03-07, 18:47
A triple shooting happened at Lynch and 13th (or Lake and 11th) not many months ago.
The article was archived on this board here:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=447206&postcount=134
Willy Word
08-03-07, 18:56
The article was archived on this board here:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=447206&postcount=134Ya its definitely not a playground in that neighborhood and like I said if your not streetsmart I wouldn't go back in there to much unless your just driving straight through. I had a girl take me to a hotel called the Royal Inn around 4th of July and I would say the same thing about that place. I'm sure some of you have been there because there were several SW's there. Lots of arguing and yelling and stuff going on in the hallway to. Always remember that a SW is not gonna protect you from anyone so if you can't protect yourself stay out of certain areas.
Jannsary you definatly met the sugar I originally posted about as she told me her pipe had burned her chest right between the girls and she pulled the same thing with me at my window very skitish asking if I was a cop But ended up getting in quickly it seems as if her pimp is near she will jump in but if he is not then she really wants to hesitate or not even talk he must be pushing her hard
also to the truckers this morning across from the wash rack the estl po-po were rousting truck drivers about 5:30 am
Yeah a pipe burn does make sense. I wasn't going to sit there and spend too much time inquiring about it. She seemed very scared to me but I wasn't sure if she was actually scared or just skitish because she was on something. You're right her pimp is probably pushing her really hard.
One thing I forgot to mention about Lady was that she seemed to have her shit together. Unlike a lot of the gals she had a good smile and decent teeth. She was clean, healthy looking, and had a nice pleasant attitude. She also let slip that she had a job. Not sure what type, maybe a dancer but I doubt it with the very short hair.
Country Boy #3
08-06-07, 00:48
I was on the east side this weekend. I made a pass around 7 pm. Not much going on, so I decided to head to brooklyn and see what was happening. It was pretty slow, so I headed back down for another pass. I found a cute little gal, and after a cop check, we headed across the highway behind the truckstop. I always watch my mirrors to make sure were not being followed, so I still don't know where he came from. I backed into my spot so we could take care of business. We had been there less than a minute when she asked what that car was doing. I look and see a white crown vic coming towards us with his lights turned off. Then he turned his spot light on us.
He walks over to my window, and whats going on. I said we were just talking. Of course I knew he knew what was going on. I didn't give him a line of B.S., or incriminate myself.
He ran my license, which came back clean. He then told the girl to get out. He took her far enough away, I couldn't hear there conversation. The whole time I'm thinking about what she probably has on her, or in her purse on the floor.
After about five minutes, She gets back in, while he goes to run her license. She starts crying, saying she has a warrant out. Another five minutes goes by, He finally comes back, and tells us we can go. He said if he catches me over there again, he'll confiscate my vehicle.
I left feeling extremely lucky. The girl couldn't believe her warrant didn't come up.
When he left, he backed straight up so I never got a good luck at the side of his car. The girl said he was Fairmont city, but I think he was E. St. Louis.
His car was all white, with, I think, blue lettering. His uniform was all black.
I think he was more interested in running us off than catching us in the act. He easily could have waited a couple minutes, and give us time to get busy. Either way I feel pretty lucky.
Does anybody know what city the truckstop, and racetrack, are in?
Be careful. I know I'm changing my game plane for a while.
Willy Word
08-06-07, 11:15
I was on the east side this weekend. I made a pass around 7 pm. Not much going on, so I decided to head to brooklyn and see what was happening. It was pretty slow, so I headed back down for another pass. I found a cute little gal, and after a cop check, we headed across the highway behind the truckstop. I always watch my mirrors to make sure were not being followed, so I still don't know where he came from. I backed into my spot so we could take care of business. We had been there less than a minute when she asked what that car was doing. I look and see a white crown vic coming towards us with his lights turned off. Then he turned his spot light on us.
He walks over to my window, and whats going on. I said we were just talking. Of course I knew he knew what was going on. I didn't give him a line of B.S., or incriminate myself.
He ran my license, which came back clean. He then told the girl to get out. He took her far enough away, I couldn't hear there conversation. The whole time I'm thinking about what she probably has on her, or in her purse on the floor.
After about five minutes, She gets back in, while he goes to run her license. She starts crying, saying she has a warrant out. Another five minutes goes by, He finally comes back, and tells us we can go. He said if he catches me over there again, he'll confiscate my vehicle.
I left feeling extremely lucky. The girl couldn't believe her warrant didn't come up.
When he left, he backed straight up so I never got a good luck at the side of his car. The girl said he was Fairmont city, but I think he was E. St. Louis.
His car was all white, with, I think, blue lettering. His uniform was all black.
I think he was more interested in running us off than catching us in the act. He easily could have waited a couple minutes, and give us time to get busy. Either way I feel pretty lucky.
Does anybody know what city the truckstop, and racetrack, are in?
Be careful. I know I'm changing my game plane for a while.You were in Fairmount City. I personally wouldn't bring my girls over there. Stick to East St. Louis for illegal activities. You will be much safer there and blend in.
Country Boy #3 wrote, "The girl said [the cop] was Fairmont city, but I think he was E. St. Louis."
Country Boy, thanks for letting us know about your police encounter of the unpleasant kind. I hope you were still able to have a Close Encounter of the Sexual Kind with the lady afterwards.
According to the municipal boundaries drawn on Yahoo Maps, Gateway International Raceway and its neighbor across the street, Gateway Truck Plaza, are in unincorporated parts of the county--well, either unincorporated county areas or parts of National City/Eagle Park (it's not exactly clear on the map). I'm guessing unincorporated, though.
Now if you turn to Google Maps (maps.google.com) and click "find business," Google Maps lists the truck plaza as having an "East St. Louis, IL" address. So although, the Truck Plaza is not within the boundaries of East St. Louis proper, it may still be under East St. Louis jurisdiction. A case of non-contiguous jurisdiction, possibly.
The truck plaza's neighbor directly across the street, Gateway International Raceway, has two addresses. One is Raceway Boulevard with a Madison, Illinois address. The other is Route 203 with a Fairmont City address. Maybe Madison and Fairmont City share in the tax proceeds of the raceway? That could explain those nice Hemi Chargers the Fairmont City cops drive, even though Fairmont City has a very small population of 2,000 and
dropping fast (city-data.com).
Like the truck stop, the raceway also does not lie within the city boundaries of Madison, IL or Fairmont City, as shown on Yahoo Maps.
I would say Yahoo Maps (maps.yahoo.com) is better than Google Maps at drawing city boundaries and for finding businesses (Yahoo Maps updates businesses on the fly as you scroll the map), but Google is better than Yahoo at displaying streets clearly and their direction of travel--gotta know where the one-way streets begin and end--and know where the 2-way streets suddenly and unexpectedly become one-way. So for some stuff, I love using Yahoo Maps; for other stuff Google is better, I think.
So if the raceway has a Madison address AND a Fairmont City address, I wonder who patrols it: the Madison cops or the Fairmont City police? Perhaps the county sheriff or the Illinois state police? Maybe all. Anybody go to the races on race day? What cops do you see over there?
Country Boy, great to hear nothing horrible happened! But the officer's threat of confiscating your car next time certainly must not feel good. Anyone know how likely confiscation is with East St. Louis police and/or the other departments? Has anyone ever even heard of a hobbyist's car being taken on the east side? I'd like to think the cop was just trying to scare you, but there's no need to take any chances.
Sorry, I tried to delete this empty message, but deletion didn't work.
Country Boy #3
08-06-07, 19:40
According to Pilot's website, the address for the truckstop is E. St. Louis. Which is what I thought he was.
Country Boy #3
08-06-07, 19:51
After that bad date was over. I got a call back from Patti. Her boyfriend brought her over so I could play with her. What a great guy.
The more I see her, the more I like her. I going to meet her on the Missouri side next weekend.
Country Boy #3 wrote, "According to Pilot's website, the address for the truckstop is E. St. Louis. "
Country Boy, it's nice to see that *both* Google Maps and Pilot's web site agree that the truck stop on Route 203 has an East St. Louis address. Willy Word, I guess you were mistaken when you said the truck stop is in Fairmont City. Willy, a little research beforehand can do wonders when answering folks' questions.
By the way, Willy, a few days ago I said there was a "triple shooting" that happened at 13th and Lake, not a "triple homicide" which is what you wrote in reply. There's a difference between a triple shooting (where all folks survive) and a homicide where folks die.
Anyway, Willy Word, I'm not getting on your case, just pointing out some errors since you weren't exactly polite to me a week ago. Just like research, a little politeness goes a long way ;)
Regarding Gateway Raceway, both Nascar's web site and Google Maps agree that the race track located across the street from the truck stop has a Madison, Illinois address. Google Maps, however, also gives the Raceway a Fairmont City address. So Google Maps shows the raceway as having 2 addresses a hundred feet apart: one Madison and one Fairmont City. Like I said, it's possible both cities share in the tax revenue of the track, but this is pure speculation on my part.
Both facilities, the race track and the truck stop, are NOT located within the normal city boundaries of East St. Louis, Fairmont City, or Madison. This makes sense since the race track is huge and wouldn't fit easily inside Madison's city limits.
Back to the truck stop. Perhaps when the truck stop was built many years ago, the ideal spot for it wasn't inside East St. Louis's city limits, but East St. Louis wanted jurisdiction over it, for tax purposes, etc. And so, that could explain why Country Boy says he saw an East St. Louis police officer patroling the truck stop even though the truck stop is located outside the municipality. ...Just some ideas.
Mister Quick
08-07-07, 12:30
Country Boy #3 wrote, "The girl said [the cop] was Fairmont city, but I think he was E. St. Louis."
Country Boy, thanks for letting us know about your police encounter of the unpleasant kind. I hope you were still able to have a Close Encounter of the Sexual Kind with the lady afterwards.
According to the municipal boundaries drawn on Yahoo Maps, Gateway International Raceway and its neighbor across the street, Gateway Truck Plaza, are in unincorporated parts of the county--well, either unincorporated county areas or parts of National City/Eagle Park (it's not exactly clear on the map). I'm guessing unincorporated, though.
Now if you turn to Google Maps (maps.google.com) and click "find business," Google Maps lists the truck plaza as having an "East St. Louis, IL" address. So although, the Truck Plaza is not within the boundaries of East St. Louis proper, it may still be under East St. Louis jurisdiction. A case of non-contiguous jurisdiction, possibly.
The truck plaza's neighbor directly across the street, Gateway International Raceway, has two addresses. One is Raceway Boulevard with a Madison, Illinois address. The other is Route 203 with a Fairmont City address. Maybe Madison and Fairmont City share in the tax proceeds of the raceway? That could explain those nice Hemi Chargers the Fairmont City cops drive, even though Fairmont City has a very small population of 2,000 and
dropping fast (city-data.com).
Like the truck stop, the raceway also does not lie within the city boundaries of Madison, IL or Fairmont City, as shown on Yahoo Maps.
I would say Yahoo Maps (maps.yahoo.com) is better than Google Maps at drawing city boundaries and for finding businesses (Yahoo Maps updates businesses on the fly as you scroll the map), but Google is better than Yahoo at displaying streets clearly and their direction of travel--gotta know where the one-way streets begin and end--and know where the 2-way streets suddenly and unexpectedly become one-way. So for some stuff, I love using Yahoo Maps; for other stuff Google is better, I think.
So if the raceway has a Madison address AND a Fairmont City address, I wonder who patrols it: the Madison cops or the Fairmont City police? Perhaps the county sheriff or the Illinois state police? Maybe all. Anybody go to the races on race day? What cops do you see over there?
Country Boy, great to hear nothing horrible happened! But the officer's threat of confiscating your car next time certainly must not feel good. Anyone know how likely confiscation is with East St. Louis police and/or the other departments? Has anyone ever even heard of a hobbyist's car being taken on the east side? I'd like to think the cop was just trying to scare you, but there's no need to take any chances.
There are ssome places that for unknown reasons are "in" different cities for different purposes. When I was a kid my cousin, in the Peoria suburbs, had a mailing address from one city, a phone number from another and he went to the schools from yet a third. His family actually did not live in any of these cities but rather in an unincorporated area between them. This could be the case for the truck stop.
I was talking with Kelly, who has walked for a very long time in this area and her comment was that the LE was probably not interested in the monger at all, but was seeing how much money the SW had to take his cut.
Just another observation.
Passive aggressive much Rosco? lol
I'm not sure it really matters what jurisdiction Country Boy was in but I see why he's wondering. A place could very well have one address and wind up in the corporate boundaries of another city. This is especially true if the place started out as an unincorporated area with a mail route address of city X and then got annexed into city Y. I would not rely on Google or Yahoo to give accurate municipal boundary information. If you really want to know the best bet is to contact the county supervisor of assessments. Most counties are using some form of GIS so it wouldn't take long find the answer.
If the lady said the officer was Fairmont I don't see any reason not to believe her. She's probably very familiar with who is who in this department.
I was not aware that Illinois had a confiscation law in regards to prostitution. I know there is one regarding drug offenses but never heard of it with prostitution. Also several recent court cases have thrown some of these laws into question in other states.
Rosco, I'm not sure if I've seen a Fairmont Dodge Charger. The ISP is using them but the Fairmont ones I've seen have been Crown Vics or Impalas. The Chargers at base price are actually cheaper than the Crown Victoria. Depending on options chosen the prices can vary a lot.
What happened to Country Boy is why I almost always get a room at one of the notels. I've not tried the Indian Mounds Motel yet though, has anybody checked out their rooms? For just a bit less than one private dance at the Hollywood Club ($25) I can get a room for several hours at Relax Inn. Now I understand for local guys getting a room every time seems like an undue expense but you guys because of proximity have more mongering opportunities than some of us. Since for me this is about a 2 or 3 time a month thing its a little different.
Jannisary, thanks for that exposition, sweetheart, but you don't exactly have a stellar record when it comes to accuracy :)
Remember when you answered someone's question by writing that Collinsville Road is the same street as Collinsville Avenue.
Perhaps you're still upset with me for pointing out the difference between the two streets? They are two very different streets.
If you want to refresh your memory about the differences, my old post about that is here:
http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=509320&highlight=Collinsville+Avenue#post509320
By the way, when I corrected your error, I made sure not to mention your name, as a courtesy to you. I only said a "third party" had mentioned such-and-such.
Cheers : - )
Willy Word
08-07-07, 17:25
Country Boy #3 wrote, "According to Pilot's website, the address for the truckstop is E. St. Louis."
Country Boy, it's nice to see that *both* Google Maps and Pilot's web site agree that the truck stop on Route 203 has an East St. Louis address. Willy Word, I guess you were mistaken when you said the truck stop is in Fairmont City. Willy, a little research beforehand can do wonders when answering folks' questions.
By the way, Willy, a few days ago I said there was a "triple shooting" that happened at 13th and Lake, not a "triple homicide" which is what you wrote in reply. There's a difference between a triple shooting (where all folks survive) and a homicide where folks die.
Anyway, Willy Word, I'm not getting on your case, just pointing out some errors since you weren't exactly polite to me a week ago. Just like research, a little politeness goes a long way ;)
Regarding Gateway Raceway, both Nascar's web site and Google Maps agree that the race track located across the street from the truck stop has a Madison, Illinois address. Google Maps, however, also gives the Raceway a Fairmont City address. So Google Maps shows the raceway as having 2 addresses a hundred feet apart: one Madison and one Fairmont City. Like I said, it's possible both cities share in the tax revenue of the track, but this is pure speculation on my part.
Both facilities, the race track and the truck stop, are NOT located within the normal city boundaries of East St. Louis, Fairmont City, or Madison. This makes sense since the race track is huge and wouldn't fit easily inside Madison's city limits.
Back to the truck stop. Perhaps when the truck stop was built many years ago, the ideal spot for it wasn't inside East St. Louis's city limits, but East St. Louis wanted jurisdiction over it, for tax purposes, etc. And so, that could explain why Country Boy says he saw an East St. Louis police officer patroling the truck stop even though the truck stop is located outside the municipality. ...Just some ideas.Alright Alright. I apologize if I got snippy with you. Lets not nit pick at insignificant details though. The reason I accidently put homicide is because we were discussing the stuffed animals on the pole at 13th and Lake and somehow that turned into the triple shooting at 13th and Lynch. As far as the fairmount city comment. My bad. I was just going off what a girl I know from the Park told me. I should have researched it a little better. No hard feelings and no need for us to go back and forth anymore as we are here to share info to help one another out. Hope you feel the same way about the situation.
Anyways though a heads up to all. I was out today (Tuesday) at about 1:30 or 2pm and police were on the hunt. There was one hiding right on exchange. As soon as you turn onto exchange from CR he was on the left right at the beginning of the overpass scoping any and everything. Another one was making laps around the area. Just so you know they do watch out around that time. I did myself a favor and got out of there.
Hey guys,
First, I want to thank Country Boy for posting about his close encounter of the LE kind. That's important information that benefits all of us to know.
Second, while jurisdiction matters, it doesn't absolutely matter. You are more likely to get hassled by cops in certain jurisdictions than in others. So it's good to know where you are and which ones are relatively safe. However, the police are not strictly limited by boundary lines. Fairmont City cops have been known to patrol in neighboring jurisdictions. I read an article about six months ago describing how East St. Louis had requested Fairmont to help them beef up their patrols. About a year ago I was stopped just off route 3 in National City and a Fairmont City officer pulled up and gave me the third degree. The first thing he wanted to know was "You don't have a girl in this car, do you?" He followed me all the way to the freeway to make sure I was leaving as I told him I was.
Third, the race track and truck stop are definitely in Madison. I attended the races a few weeks ago and the pre-race ceremonies included greetings from the Mayor of Madison whose picture was included in the program book. Also, my Rand-McNally St. Louis and Vicinity Streetfinder shows that area as being well within Madison city limits. FWIW, Madison has very irregular boundaries extending as far north as Venice in Madison County and as far south as Collinsville Rd. in St. Claire County. The city is contiguous only by going through part of Horseshoe Lake.
Fourth, don't be fooled by mailing addresses. As has been pointed out by a couple of you, you can be in one jurisdiction but have a mailing address for another. This has to do with post office boundaries. According to my Rand-McNally, both this part of Madison and Fairmont City have an East St. Louis zip code (62201).
Finally, I'm glad to hear Patti is still around. I have some unfinished business with her and the number she gave me is no good.
What happened to Country Boy is why I almost always get a room at one of the notels. I've not tried the Indian Mounds Motel yet though, has anybody checked out their rooms? For just a bit less than one private dance at the Hollywood Club ($25) I can get a room for several hours at Relax Inn. Now I understand for local guys getting a room every time seems like an undue expense but you guys because of proximity have more mongering opportunities than some of us. Since for me this is about a 2 or 3 time a month thing its a little different.I have been to Indian Mound. Their rooms are the same size/quality as Relax and Royal Budget. But, at least as of a year ago, they were charging $30 for 2 hours, whereas Relax and Royal Budget only charge 20.
Indian Mounds no longer has hourly rates. I stayed there a few times this year and it cost $40 per day plus a one time $5 key deposit. I felt that the rooms were a little nicer than the other two Fairmont notels. It's a good deal if you plan on having two or more dates before checkout time.
I have been to Indian Mound. Their rooms are the same size/quality as Relax and Royal Budget. But, at least as of a year ago, they were charging $30 for 2 hours, whereas Relax and Royal Budget only charge 20.
Thanks for the info Tommy Boy. I'll probably stick to the Relax and Royal Budgets motels then. One thing that bothers me about both places is that the locks on the doors are cheap and don't have a deadbolt. I suppose the Indian Mound is the same way? I can understand its easier to change the cheap locks when somebody drives off with the key but it is a worry from the customer point of view.
Talking about motels, I saw on the NewsDemocrat that a couple of guys have been robbed at the Best Western in Collinsville. So anybody else who travels into the area for fun might want to avoid the place. I've stayed there once and didn't feel particularly safe and there was also too much highway noise.
Jannisary wrote, "One thing that bothers me about both places is that the locks on the doors are cheap and don't have a deadbolt. I suppose the Indian Mound is the same way?"
Jannisary, I can confirm for you that the Indian Mound motel does not have deadbolts. Deadbolts are nice, but I'm kinda wondering why they're so important to you? Are you worried about pimps having their homo-erotic way with you? Or maybe drug dealers breaking in? Just curious : - )
Thanks for mentioning the robberies at the Best Western. My session with April from CL happened a few hundred feet away from there at the Horizon Hotel (formerly, America's Best Value Inn). In June, there was no sign up for the Horizon, but it's right up the road from Best Western, on Ramada Boulevard.
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Actually, let me modify that. If I remember right, there was a deadbolt on the door of the room I had, but there was no hole in the wooden door frame for the bolt to fit into, so it was a useless deadbolt.
Something I forgot to mention from my trip to the Lou. You know me; I like to get the non-ethanol gasoline like we have in Columbia, MO, so I went to fill-er-up at the Phillips 66 in Sauget. (Many question whether ethanol is environmentally-friendly; many think it's only farmer friendly as in big agri-business).
Anywho, the Phillips is right by Pop's Nightclub and PT's Sauget. So I drive by Pop's and PT's parking lots to see what's shakin', if anything. And there was a whole lot shakin'. I can't remember if it was in the Pop's parking lot or PT's lot, but there was a 20-something fella sitting in the front seat of his big, late-model pickup getting a screwing from a young 20-something woman who was sitting on his lap, facing him, and bouncing up and down, up and down.
This was right out in the open, sometime at night, probably between 9 and 11. Other folks besides myself were in the lot and saw. I figured she must be his girlfriend, but now I'm not so sure. After she was done, she opened his driver-side door, left the truck, and walked toward a group of folks closer to the club (either Pop's or PT's). He steps out of his cab with a big smile on his face.
She was dressed nicely, so I can't say she was an SW, but I also can't say she was his gf.
I personally would not do it in that parking lot, because I've seen cop cars in that lot, two at a time.
Anywayz, the Sauget Phillips 66 is the only gas station I've found so far in the St. Lou and metro Illinois area that doesn't have the "10% ethanol" stickers on its gas pumps. So I always fill-er-up there.
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I need to modify this posting a bit. I assumed he was getting a good screwing from the lady. But they were both dressed, so it's possible she was just dry-humping him, but the way she was moving and the smile he had on his face when he stepped out of the truck makes me think it was a real screwing. From his high cab, you couldn't tell if his pants were unzipped or down to his knees.
Zero Cool07
08-10-07, 17:34
I have hit "paydirt" more than one time at PoPs and the parking lot there.
If you hit that parking lot about 2-5am there are a ton of cute girls looking for a ride, a good time, some cash, or just about anything else they can get. Good looking-club hopping girls that are looking to party. You can get a drink at PoPs 24hrs a day. I know alot of dancers that go there after work at 4,5,and 6am.
All I know is a cute 22 or 23 year old little hotty is a "hit of life" for this middle age guy.
All I can say is give it a shot.
Country Boy #3
08-10-07, 18:39
Something I forgot to mention from my trip to the Lou. You know me; I like to get the non-ethanol gasoline like we have in Columbia, MO, so I went to fill-er-up at the Phillips 66 in Sauget. (Many question whether ethanol is environmentally-friendly; many think it's only farmer friendly as in big agri-business.
Anywayz, the Sauget Phillips 66 is the only gas station I've found so far in the St. Lou and metro Illinois area that doesn't have the "10% ethanol" stickers on its gas pumps. So I always fill-er-up there.
What have you got agaist the american farmer. You think the towel heads need you money. Ethanol may not be the only answer, but it's part of it. Ethanol has been a big boost to the agriculture industry. An industry that is getting the same price for it's product as it was 50 years ago, while input cost have skyrocketed. If we lose our american farmers, where are we going to eat. It doesn't come from the store, like you uneducated people think. If we have to rely on other countries, like China, to feed us it will come back to bite us on the ass. I sure Uncle Wal-Mart will feed us.
Zero Cool07
08-10-07, 21:45
When I first seen the ethanol comment I just knew it would not be a popular one.
KC Questor
08-10-07, 22:13
What have you got agaist the american farmer. You think the towel heads need you money. Ethanol may not be the only answer, but it's part of it. Ethanol has been a big boost to the agriculture industry. An industry that is getting the same price for it's product as it was 50 years ago, while input cost have skyrocketed. If we lose our american farmers, where are we going to eat. It doesn't come from the store, like you uneducated people think. If we have to rely on other countries, like China, to feed us it will come back to bite us on the ass. I sure Uncle Wal-Mart will feed us.
I can see where this discussion is gonna go, and it could get ugly. Please can we keep politics out of this forum?
What have you got agaist the american farmer. You think the towel heads need you money. Ethanol may not be the only answer, but it's part of it. Ethanol has been a big boost to the agriculture industry. An industry that is getting the same price for it's product as it was 50 years ago, while input cost have skyrocketed. If we lose our american farmers, where are we going to eat. It doesn't come from the store, like you uneducated people think. If we have to rely on other countries, like China, to feed us it will come back to bite us on the ass. I sure Uncle Wal-Mart will feed us.First off,
I must say I am not for ethanol. I see no reason to spend tax money to pay for the ethanol that we then buy again. It costs nearly $5 to produce a gallon of ethanol. There is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gas (which is why your mileage goes down with ethanol mixed gas). I am not against farmers, but I don't like to pay someone not to grow something and then pay a subsidy for growing the same thing elsewhere. Our energy needs greatly outweigh the ability to grow corn (or anything else to pruduce ethanol). We need to be looking at solar generation, wind generators and water to make electricity. This would reduce our need for oil by itself, but when you add the possibility of electric cars for short and medium range trips the usage drops greatly. Now back to our forum.
First off,
I must say I am not for ethanol. I see no reason to spend tax money to pay for the ethanol that we then buy again. It costs nearly $5 to produce a gallon of ethanol. There is less energy in a gallon of ethanol than a gallon of gas (which is why your mileage goes down with ethanol mixed gas). I am not against farmers, but I don't like to pay someone not to grow something and then pay a subsidy for growing the same thing elsewhere. Our energy needs greatly outweigh the ability to grow corn (or anything else to pruduce ethanol). We need to be looking at solar generation, wind generators and water to make electricity. This would reduce our need for oil by itself, but when you add the possibility of electric cars for short and medium range trips the usage drops greatly. Now back to our forum.
If we all stoped driving around looking for SW, and started walking to church. My My, just think of the gas we could save :). Some how I had to tie this into the forum.
Monger Forever
08-11-07, 15:48
If we all stoped driving around looking for SW, and started walking to church. My My, just think of the gas we could save :). Some how I had to tie this into the forum.
And many of the church girls are better they are free skanks. Man I am going to church to save on gas and get free A$$.
Thanks Jesus freaks.
My new name will be Church Monger
I was cruising along Collinsville Rd when I spotted a pretty WSW standing on Winstanley Ave between 9th and 11th street. She was wearing a white top and blue jean shorts and flip-flops. I saw a lot of guys drive up to her but none of them picked her up. After a few laps around the block I finally got a chance to talk to her. Very nice face and a good body that didn't show any signs of street wear. She talked thru the window which made me wonder if she was a cop. When she said her name was Sugar, that helped me to relax a little bit. Quoted me $30 to get in the car in drive to her spot. I wanted to take her to a notel for FS but she refused. Claimed that there was too much trouble from the police in Fairmont lately. She said that she'd go to a hotel for $100. I decided to just drive to her spot. But I told her if I didn't like her spot I'd drive someplace else or taker her back.
We get to her spot which turned out to be a decent location. She gave a BBBJTC but her oral skills weren't that good. At least I enjoyed the view of her hot body and nice legs while she did the deed!. I hope to try FS with her someday.
OK guys, on a count of three, forget about politics,
think about:
P - U - S - S- Y!!!!!
1,2,3.............
I usually have fairly good luck with morning mongering, but this morning was an exception. I hit the stroll between 10 and 11 and only saw one bsw near the railroad overpass. She had short hair and was wearing a white top and brown shorts. She wasn't fat but wasn't thin either and I like them thin. So I made the circuit again and came back and she was still there, waving like crazy when I drove by. On my third time around I saw an unmarked police car pulling someone over on 1st one block east of St. Claire. It was dark blue and had the small flashing lights in the grill, none on top. It was sporty looking, a Dodge Intrepid, perhaps.
Then I went back around from St. Claire onto CR and headed east. The same bsw was still there so I decided to slow down and turn onto Lynch to see who else might be on the back streets. She was coming toward me fast as I slowed to make the turn. Just as I turn onto Lynch a state police cruiser is coming toward me on Lynch up to CR. If I had stopped for that girl, he would have seen the whole thing. I took that as an omen and headed for home.
Had a good time with Patty. Picked her up right on Collinsville Road, yeah not the brightest idea but I wasn't thinking with the big head I guess. I was headed east just past Exchange and saw her on the other side of the street with Kelly. They both crossed over after I pulled over and then we spent what felt like an eternity sitting there as Patty rummaged through her purse for some "aspirin" to give to Kelly. She found something and gave it to her, I didn't want to know what it really was but wouldn't you keep "aspirin" in the bottle and not floating around your purse? But if it was something else why is she just giving it away?
We finally pull out, headed for Fairmont. Just about 2 blocks up the road but who do we see, our faithful public servants and probably the main bulwarks of civilization holding ESL together, two ISP. They were at the intersection with Lynch or Lake, not sure and someone was talking to the lead car at the stop sign. I think I was very lucky because if they were paying any attention they had to see my stopped car or my car pulling back onto the road. Patty reclined her seat and tried to make herself as small as possible as we went by. We really didn't have any options since by the time we spotted the cars I was already past the preceding intersection and even turning there may have made me look suspicious. So she pressed herself into the seat has hard as she could and I made real sure to keep to speed limit.
As we passed the ISP they were still talking to someone at the car window. Not long after though I see the lead car pull out and follow us. Now at this time neither one of us had really done anything. I hadn't even asked her if she needed a ride. I had just made eye contact, smiled, pulled over and she was climbing in the passenger door. After she took care of Kelly, we introduced ourselves and she put on her seatbelt as I pulled onto the road. Then we saw the ISP and even though we may not have done anything, yet lol, we were both pretty worried.
Patty asked where we were going and I told her I had planned on Fairmont but wasn't so sure about it now. Figured if he was still following us by that point pulling into the Relax Inn probably wouldn't be a good idea. But what else could we do? Thought about taking her into Collinsville for a bite to eat or something. Well evidently he had better things to do or we were just lucky because he turned off somewhere. We get to the Relax and she suggests we just pull directly into the back before getting the room in case the ISP was actually still following but back further.
We get into a room and then she finally asks "you're not a cop are ya?" I hadn't been too worried about her being LE because she'd been with Kelly but I had to reply "No,...you're not one are you!" Eh, guess it was only funny for the two of us. Right after I replied I pulled her to me, grabbed her ass firmly with both hands, she lightly kissed me on the lips, and then I ran my hands up her body and finally tweaked her nipples through her shirt. She smelled, looked, and felt very clean.
Patty wanted 100 for her time and talents. That seemed kinda steep for a sw but she did look pretty darn good. Blond hair, nice makeup, slim athletic body, a nice attractive smile with good looking teeth. I countered with 75, cause her boobies are pretty small and she has what I tend to think of as "smoker's face". She says she's 37 and if it wasn't for her face you'd probably think she was younger. Wound up giving her 80 cause I didn't have the right change and didn't want to get my wallet out of the trunk.
After the deal was struck she told me she needed to take her "sex drug" which made me a bit uncomfortable. She went into the bathroom for just a few seconds so I'm assuming it was a pill or something she took orally; guessing meth/ speed but she didn't really act like the methheads I've seen before. She told me she needed it for work and felt she also had to take it in order to fit in on the streets. I can somewhat see her point about that, I'm sure the other girls and their "boyfriends" would be very suspicious of someone who wasn't doing one thing or another.
We chilled for awhile watching tv, talking and letting our hands roam. Guessing she was waiting to let whatever she took take effect before really starting in on her job.
For round one she gave a decent bbj, a bit too much hand action and she immediately pulled off as I started to come. She did keep stroking with her hand and I did get a bit on her face so it wasn't a total let down.
Intermission was nice with some interesting conversation, mainly about her street experiences and we watched some more tv. Patty says she used to dance at several of the clubs and gave a pretty good demonstration of those skills to start round number two. Round number two was a bit disappointing because she wouldn't do cg, said it was a rule for her that she wouldn't get on top. Wound up doing the old standard missionary, didn't ask about doggie so I'm not sure if that's available or not. It was a good time even though we just didn't seem to click at several points.
I would definitely pick her up again and hopefully our paths will cross sometime soon. She seemed to have most of her stuff together, was nice and very pleasant.
Alex P Keaton
08-18-07, 12:40
Word on the street is that Doug beat Melissa this week after she caught him in bed with crazy Heather and freaked out. So you might not see her out for awhile, or you might see her in pretty bad shape.
Word on the street is that Doug beat Melissa this week after she caught him in bed with crazy Heather and freaked out. So you might not see her out for awhile, or you might see her in pretty bad shape.Could someone describe Melissa to me. I have heard and read about her but I do not know what she look like. A picture would be nice.
Thanks.
Alex P Keaton
08-19-07, 01:03
Melissa
A picture would be nice.
Here are eight.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=461443&postcount=170
Here are eight.
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=461443&postcount=170Thanks. I have seen her. Saw her yesterday and she looked really rough. I don't know if it was the weather, the boyfriend or the drugs.
Alex P. Keaton wrote, "Word on the street is that Doug beat Melissa this week..."
Are you tellin' me Doug's a domestic abuser?
Alex P. Keaton wrote, "Word on the street is that Doug beat Melissa this week..."
Are you tellin' me Doug's a domestic abuser?Just for the record, I assume this Doug is someone Melissa knows and is definitely NOT me.
Alex P Keaton
08-20-07, 20:05
Are you tellin' me Doug's a domestic abuser?
I would never say such a thing about an upstanding pillar of the community.
(But her bruises and cigarette burns might give you that impression.)
Taco Hunter
08-21-07, 07:43
she was out on 1st street across from the washrack this morning about 6:00 but I did not get a chance to see what kind of shape she was in
The Doug in question is the brother of "Cheese," Jennifer's boyfriend/pimp. Whereas Jennifer is beaten on a regular basis, Melissa is not. This marks a new low for her. She has been with this guy a while and has broken up with him before. A while back when she temporarily moved into a motel in Collinsville, it was because she had just broken up with him. Apparently she keeps going back to him just like she does with crack.
Melissa also has a history with crazy Heather. She told me once how she beat the shit out of Heather for "dissing" her. Heather is at low end of the SW pecking order and is not respected by anyone. There is no sympathy for mental illness in the hood. These girls always get mad when they find their guy in bed with one of the other girls. But finding your guy with Heather is the ultimate insult. I'm sure Melissa went ape shit and attacked both of them.
Tommy Boy wrote, "The Doug in question is the brother of "Cheese," Jennifer's boyfriend/pimp."
Does Cheese or Douglass drive a small white car, maybe 1999 vintage, possibly an economy-size Mazda? Looks vaguely like a late-nineties' Toyota Tercel, but isn't a Toyota.
At the Indian Mound Motel, I saw Jennifer with a black fellow driving this kind of car. I don't know if this man was her date or boyfriend/pimp.
Later, when this fella saw me heading to my car, he thought I might be leaving and asked if I could give him a drive to a nearby store because he needed to buy something for his car that had a flat tire or something. But I was only going to my car to get some paperwork and told him I wasn't leaving.
Later at the motel, this older 45- to 55-year-old fella seemed to put out some feelers as to whether I might be interested in Jennifer. But I told him in a polite voice that Jennifer was "weird."
He was somewhat put off and worked the word "shiit" into his next sentence, but as you will recall, Jennifer pulled a steak knife stunt with me the day earlier at 9th and Exchange when I exited my vehicle to speak to the 3 ladies and one black man there. (She wanted the $5 bill showing in my hand, or threatened to scratch my car with the knife.)
The black man at 9th and Exchange was not the white car-driving black man at the motel. Maybe they were the brothers Douglass and Cheese? The black fella on 9th was not happy to see Jennifreak pull the steak knife. He was more level-headed than Jennifer.
I have hit "paydirt" more than one time at PoPs and the parking lot there.
If you hit that parking lot about 2-5am there are a ton of cute girls looking for a ride, a good time, some cash, or just about anything else they can get. Good looking-club hopping girls that are looking to party. You can get a drink at PoPs 24hrs a day. I know alot of dancers that go there after work at 4,5,and 6am.
All I know is a cute 22 or 23 year old little hotty is a "hit of life" for this middle age guy.
All I can say is give it a shot.Is it anywhere near Brooklyn?
There was a girl working at Roxys named Chrystal. I heard she ran from the cops and got clocked at 140mph. Does anyone know any details or a link to the story they could direct me to? Thanks in advance.
Big Dog 101
08-21-07, 16:15
Hey fellas,
I did a little mongering from about 11:30 to 12:15 this morning and there were girls on Collinsville Rd and several of the side streets. But apparently so were many fellow mongers. It seemed everytime that I would get turned around they were being picked up. If any of the guys out there were on the beat today, there was a BSW in white shorts and a white top. She really looked hot but all I ever got to do is drive by and then she was gone. Didn't see and barney fives around today though, that is a ggod thing. If any fellow mongers have digits of favorites on the east side that they wouldn't mind passing along that would be great.
Happy Mongering
Would you fellas date a girl after she has been beaten by her boyfriend?
Sometimes they look so bad you can't even recognize them.
Rosco2
I have seen Cheese many times over the last two years. I've never seen him driving anything! The only time I saw him in a car, it was a small red one and his girlfriend was driving it. He is about 45 years old but looks older.
Tommy Boy wrote, "The Doug in question is the brother of "Cheese," Jennifer's boyfriend/pimp."
Does Cheese or Douglass drive a small white car, maybe 1999 vintage, possibly an economy-size Mazda? Looks vaguely like a late-nineties' Toyota Tercel, but isn't a Toyota.
Later at the motel, this older 45- to 55-year-old fella seemed to put out some feelers as to whether I might be interested in Jennifer. But I told him in a polite voice that Jennifer was "weird."
Alex P Keaton
08-22-07, 00:12
Is it anywhere near Brooklyn?
Pops is on Route 3 in Sauget.
http://www.popsrocks.com/
Alex P Keaton
08-22-07, 00:22
There was a girl working at Roxys named Chrystal. I heard she ran from the cops and got clocked at 140mph. Does anyone know any details or a link to the story they could direct me to? Thanks in advance.
From a review of your posts, it seems like the only reason you venture over to the Brooklyn forum from the Bloomington forum is to ask about Chrystal. Also, the apparent extent of what you "heard" is the rumor that was posted in the Roxy's forum on www.stripclublist.com. So, go fish.
I was driving along Collinsville road around 4pm today looking for a little Sugar. Between Winstanley and Exchange, I saw a group of people standing around a WSW who was laying on the ground. I couldn't see her well enough to tell who she was. An ambulance showed up shortly and carried her away. No sign of any type of LE on the scene.
I went around the block and saw some guy picking up Sugar on one of the side streets. Well at least I know it wasn't her in the ambulance.
Taco Hunter
08-23-07, 08:16
I picked up Sugar yesterday and took her to a notel not a good time she had just been jumped and had the shit beat out of her and claimed to have been raped and sodomized the day before so she was a mess as usual then she spilled a huge soda all over my vehicle and then it was off to a very uninspired session where I got mine and took her back that is when I saw the gal on the side of the road it was crystal or red she has a couple of names she was waving cars down when I picked up sugar now she was just crumpled up on the sidewalk I dont know what happen however on my way out of town down exchange across the railroad track down by where jennifer stays there were about 20 marshalls or the like all in black bullet proof vests all over
Chiapet9 wrote, "I saw the gal on the side of the road - it was crystal or red - she has a couple of names"
Well, Crystal and Red are two different ladies. Whether or not they share multiple names, I don't know.
From a review of your posts, it seems like the only reason you venture over to the Brooklyn forum from the Bloomington forum is to ask about Chrystal. Also, the apparent extent of what you "heard" is the rumor that was posted in the Roxy's forum on www.stripclublist.com. So, go fish.
Yeah well I figured that the place to ask would be this place.
Sorry for your trouble
KC Questor
08-23-07, 18:03
Chiapet9, I think these must be yours. I found them all over the floor and I'm sure that you must have dropped them.
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Chiapet9 wrote, "[The SW crumpled up on the sidewalk was] mid 30's, a little chunky with straight bownish-red hair, used to be at the rack and stay at the [Royal Inn]."
Chiapet, sounds like it was Crystal crumpled up on the sidewalk, then, and not Red. I hope she's alright.
If she's a little chunky and has stayed at the Royal Inn, it sounds like Crystal (my first-ever SW).
Henis wrote, "I saw a group of people standing around a WSW who was laying on the ground...An ambulance showed up shortly and carried her away."
If anybody sees Crystal in the future, try to find out what happened and why she had to be taken to the hospital.
God bless all street walkers everywhere. It's a tough job.
There is a girl who uses both names Crystal and Red. The girl I saw on the ground could have been her. Fred posted a picture of her a few years ago. I think that it's still on the forum somewhere.
Chiapet9 wrote, "I saw the gal on the side of the road - it was crystal or red - she has a couple of names"
Well, Crystal and Red are two different ladies. Whether or not they share multiple names, I don't know.
Was just starting my stroll on CR from I-70, exit 4 a little after 12 am. I was a little ways behind a fire truck (with lights on) that I let pass. I was going to follow the fire truck to see were it was going. But by the time I got to N 9th and Exchange, LE turned down exchange in front of me. So I kept straight after the 4 way stop.
Saw a slim wsw and a slim bsw as I passed Bowman ave. I was getting ready to make my loop on down N 9th to St Clair ave and up Katherine Dunham pl to check out the wsw, but saw LE sitting on the dead end part of St Clair ave and Katherine Dunham PL so I kept straight on down N 9th.
Ten minutes later I get back to N 9th and Bowman and theres one other wsw that was not there before in all black suit thats very tight on the as$. I make the pickup and she said her name was RED. OK, I had just read the board before I went out, but didn't remember if she was a thumbs up or not.
Well I felt the puss to put her at ease and she said she had a room about five blocks away. As we headed down N 9th toward MLK I knew where we were going. Now from reading on the board, I know it's not the best place to go.
As we walk to the door, this lady sitting outside said Crystal, is that you? But then said Oh, it's Red, Red hair Red as we got closer.
The room was ten and had to pay at the window. We got to the room and I closed the door. (no dead bolt, just like I remember reading about) Red didn't readly seem into it. She made a phone call while my one eyed buddy was in her mouth. I heard her say, "I am in the room, I will call you back when I'm done".
Things I didnt like with Red.
1.Made a call while giving head
2.Did a hit before starting
3.Stores all on legs
4.Puss was dry, I had to use spit
I asked Red if she and Crystal look alike. She said that Crystal was her wife and Crystal's butt is a little bigger.
UpForFun, when you went to the Royal Inn on 10th near MLK to have your session with Red, did you park your car in the inn's back parking lot, or somewhere else?
Did you see any other cars in the back parking lot, or was your's the only one there? I'm guessing the lot was deserted. I hope that camera back there works and covers the whole lot.
When Crystal, my first-ever SW, guided me to that lot at about 10 or 11 PM in March, I saw a tall, HWP, younger black lady there and a Toyota 4-Runner type SUV with its lights on that seemed to be headed out of the lot. Crystal said the black woman was her sister--perhaps her half-sister since Crystal is white.
Anyway, it was late and I got an uneasy feeling leaving my car in a deserted lot, so I drove to the Discreet Hotel instead, paid $20 for the room there, and had a lackluster session with Crystal.
Has anybody been inside the Discreet since March? Have they fixed it up? When I drove by in late June, the hotel had a big new sign up with the words "For Your Eyes Only" or something James-Bondish like that. I guess "For Your Eyes Only" might be some sort of new upstairs bar I've heard about, but don't really know for sure.
Any intel on that place and the Discreet in general?
UpForFun,
Crystal, who also uses the name Red. has large stretch marks on her tummy. Her puss is loose from having so many kids. Being dry would not have made it hard to get in.
I can't recall her having sores on her legs.
I suspect that the Red you saw was Dirty Red because she did have sores on her legs when I saw her a few days ago. I don't know if Dirty Red has stretch marks on her too!
Was just starting my stroll on CR from I-70, exit 4 a little after 12 am. I was a little ways behind a fire truck (with lights on) that I let pass. I was going to follow the fire truck to see were it was going. But by the time I got to N 9th and Exchange, LE turned down exchange in front of me. So I kept straight after the 4 way stop.
Saw a slim wsw and a slim bsw as I passed Bowman ave. I was getting ready to make my loop on down N 9th to St Clair ave and up Katherine Dunham pl to check out the wsw, but saw LE sitting on the dead end part of St Clair ave and Katherine Dunham PL so I kept straight on down N 9th.
Ten minutes later I get back to N 9th and Bowman and theres one other wsw that was not there before in all black suit thats very tight on the as$. I make the pickup and she said her name was RED. OK, I had just read the board before I went out, but didn't remember if she was a thumbs up or not.
Well I felt the puss to put her at ease and she said she had a room about five blocks away. As we headed down N 9th toward MLK I knew where we were going. Now from reading on the board, I know it's not the best place to go.
As we walk to the door, this lady sitting outside said Crystal, is that you? But then said Oh, it's Red, Red hair Red as we got closer.
The room was ten and had to pay at the window. We got to the room and I closed the door. (no dead bolt, just like I remember reading about) Red didn't readly seem into it. She made a phone call while my one eyed buddy was in her mouth. I heard her say, "I am in the room, I will call you back when I'm done".
Things I didnt like with Red.
1.Made a call while giving head
2.Did a hit before starting
3.Stores all on legs
4.Puss was dry, I had to use spit
I asked Red if she and Crystal look alike. She said that Crystal was her wife and Crystal's butt is a little bigger.
Why do they call Red "Dirty Red?" Is it just a matter of hair color, or is she known to have some sort of STD like herpes, maybe? Or is it just competition among SWs (someone said Shannon referred to Red as Dirty Red).
By the way, Red is thinner than Crystal and younger.
I first got a glimpse of Red in late June when I was in town. Is she fairly new to the scene, like just a few months, or has she been working a long time?
I'm not thrilled that Red calls Crystal her wife, because I was considering trying Red. However, when I was with Crystal in March, Crystal seemed to have something on her fingers. Not sure if they were cuts, sores, or herpes (called "whitlow" when herpes is on the fingers--I learned that at the old, defunct web site).
Since I let Crystal give me a hand job in March, when I got back to Columbia, I got my pecker checked out by the doc. Everything's fine with your pecker, he said. But I still should have checked out Crystal's fingers before I let her start the HJ.
I noticed Crystal seemed to be using her palms more than her fingers for the HJ, which struck me as odd. Anyway, my pecker escaped unscathed. And I can't say for certain what was on her fingers: cuts or something else.
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UpForFun,
Crystal, who also uses the name Red. has large stretch marks on her tummy. Her puss is loose from having so many kids. Being dry would not have made it hard to get in.
I can't recall her having sores on her legs.
I suspect that the Red you saw was Dirty Red because she did have sores on her legs when I saw her a few days ago. I don't know if Dirty Red has stretch marks on her too!
RFLMAO! OMG!
Behind Curtain #1: Crystal with the blown-out ****
Behind Curtain #2: Dirty Red with the open leg sores
Jeeesssssuuuuussssss H. Christ!
"Dirty Red" is probably referring to her hair color. She probably has darker red hair that is close to be being brown? I think I've seen her on the stroll a few times.
Crystal, the hj specialist reported on by Doug, Rosco, and myself, has more than just stretch marks going on. She's got so much flabby loose flesh from the waist down it was scary. She hides it pretty well while clothed and wears a padded bra!
There's a bsw who is usually just off Collinsville Rd, has shoulder length hair. She is usually wearing tight revealing clothing with well defined and muscular legs. Anybody know who I'm referring to? I was going to pick her up last week but by the time I circled back around she was gone. Any info on her?
Country Boy #3
08-25-07, 13:45
Has anyone seen her this week, or weekend? I haven't been able to get a hold of her or her boyfriend on the phone.
There seems to be a white family that lives in a house on Exchange not too far from 1st Street. I saw a couple good-looking women, a man, and a little kid moving stuff (perhaps groceries) from a car to the house. I don't think the women work the street, unless someone knows differently? The house is on the south side of Exchange.
I was surprised to see a white family there.
I'll tell ya another little unpleasant story. I won't name
the SW because she is a nice lady.
Anyway, in 39 years on this planet, I've never once had
bugs in my bed. No bed bugs, ever. One day I'm with an
SW in her bed at her place, and midway through the session,
I notice there are little bugs in the bed! Giminy! I get up and ask her,
"What are these?"
"What are what?" she says.
What are what! The bugs are right there in the bed, clearly
visible [LOL].
Anyhow 5 or 6 days later, I notice bugs in my bed! Immediately,
I wrap up both the top, flat sheet and the bottom, fitted sheet
and throw them out. And I wash everything that had been in contact
with the bed: towels, undies, bed clothes, etc.
The bugs were small. You wouldn't have known what they were unless
you looked at them up-close. These bed bugs aren't like cockroaches.
They're much, much, smaller. Longer than they are wide, and they
had wings that were non-functional. So thankfully, none of them
were able to fly away.
The simple washing and throwing out the bed sheets worked. Haven't
seen any bugs since. What a relief. Luckily, I'm not married, so
I didn't have anything to explain. Can you imagine your wife having a
cow if she found bugs in your bed? LOL
"Honey, where have you been?!"
Like I said in 39 years, I never once had bugs in my bed, and never
once had an STD like gonorrhea. And in 12 years of visiting both Massage parlor and
Newspaper-advertising ladies, I never once had a problem either. But
in just a few months fooling with SWs, I get bed bugs.
Fellas, check out the beds and the hands/fingers of your SW ladies
before the session begins. And report back to your USAsexGuide buddies
if you find anything odd. We gotta watch out for each other :-)
Alex P Keaton
08-26-07, 11:28
Has anyone seen (Patti) this week, or weekend?
I believe it was her who I saw at 8 p.m. on Saturday on the southwest corner of Collinsville Road and Lake Avenue. I could be mistaken because I merely drove by without stopping.
Alex P Keaton
08-26-07, 11:31
When I drove by in late June, the hotel had a big new sign up with the words "For Your Eyes Only"
"For Thine Eyes Only," I think.
Taco Hunter
08-28-07, 08:23
She has reappered in ESTL on CR by the white house I caught her this morning for a little session it was nice as always
Knucklebuck
08-28-07, 11:58
...Rosco's horrifying bug story...
Rosco...were these bed bugs, pubic lice, crabs...etc?
Did you notice any bites on you?
Unfortunately I got scabies about 10 years ago and that treatment required covering your body with a lotion that basically contained an insecticide I believe.
NOT FUN!
Knucklebuck wrote, "Were these bed bugs, pubic lice, crabs...etc?"
Knucklebuck, just a simple case of bed bugs. Thankfully, they were easy to get rid of. Haven't seen one in a long time, since I threw out the old sheets, and washed clothes in contact with the bed.
She's actually a pretty clean lady and obviously showers regularly. Plus her room was well kept. Just some bugs in her bed. Hopefully, she's gotten rid of them by now.
She's a drug user, though--crack probably, so she may not have been paying close attention to her bed. Who knows, maybe a John gave her bed bugs!
As for the bush, I checked it for days. Nothing there but the usual hair ;-)
The white house, right down the street, from the tire place has a "condemned" sign on it. There was no activity around the house. The Discreet Motel now has a "Dangerous" sign on the fencing. Not sure what else was on the sign because I was on the other side of the road going home. Also at the corner of 9th street and I believe exchange is a brand new really tall light fixture. The type that you see on the highway. If it is old I have never noticed it before. It appears that the city is on crusade the get the SW of the area.
I drove by the white house around noon today. I saw Crystal a.k.a. Red going inside the house. About 4pm, I drove by again and saw that the condemmed building signs were up. Wish I knew if the girls were busted or moved to another house.
The white house, right down the street, from the tire place has a "condemned" sign on it. There was no activity around the house. The Discreet Motel now has a "Dangerous" sign on the fencing. Not sure what else was on the sign because I was on the other side of the road going home. Also at the corner of 9th street and I believe exchange is a brand new really tall light fixture. The type that you see on the highway. If it is old I have never noticed it before. It appears that the city is on crusade the get the SW of the area.
Willy Word
09-01-07, 03:43
Watch out this weekend. I was just out (Friday night early Sat at about 1:30am) and drove up and down 9th and saw nothing the first time. I drove back threw and there was a white or silver pickup truck pulled over by a police van and a police car with high powered lights on it. It was right there at 9th and Lynch and looked like the truck must have just turned down lynch where the SW's usually stand. So I kept going down 9th under the railroad past the westin and turned to get on the highway toward st. louis and there was another guy pulled over by two police cars and they were going threw his trunk. Now before this I had gone towards the washrack and the usual black tranny was by the bridge and there were two bsw's (3's on the scale) right on the street by the washrack where they stand. But after I saw all that on 9th I decided it was time to get out of there. Just wanted to let everyone know that it looks like they are trying to get the labor day quotas of tickets and they were definitely targeting that area.
UpForFun, when you went to the Royal Inn on 10th near MLK to have your session with Red, did you park your car in the inn's back parking lot, or somewhere else?
Did you see any other cars in the back parking lot, or was your's the only one there? I'm guessing the lot was deserted. I hope that camera back there works and covers the whole lot.
There were 4, maybe 5 cars in the back where I parked. One lady sitting in a lawn chair outside and two dudes hanging around the half window outside. I paid the ten for the room inside at the counter, then when thur another door that had the rooms. There was one older lady walking in the hallway and another sitting in a chair in the hallway.
Things I didnt like with Red.
1.Made a call while giving head
2.Did a hit before starting
3.Stores all on legs
4.Puss was dry, I had to use spit
When I was with red, she was looking for jel for her puss and could not find any.
She said just let me suck it. I said ok, but after a few minutes of sucking, she was act like she was giving up. So I said let be spit on you puss.
About a month ago I got the chance to do some day hunting. I was around 8am when I hit CR and pick up a wsw. She was about 5'7", 140 lbs, C-cup with dirty blond hair almost shoulder length. I know that her name started with a D, but can't remember the name. Donna, Diana, I don't know?
We did the LE check and she said she was from Alabama. She had driver license on her. So I gave her the money for the room for Budget Inn she booked the room. I think she was new to the area. She was very nice and sweet. She talked about LE stopping her because of the crack in her windshield.
We get to the room and she gave some very nice and slow head before I got on top of her. The plan was for two pops. After the first one, we just talked in bed.
Oh, I think this was about a week after the wash rack was busted, she talked about that.
Well she is very tire and having a hard time staying awake. Now I didn't want her to pull a Jennnifer on me and fall asleep, so we start round two. I know it is to soon for me but was going to give it a try.
She started out with some good head then me on top again, but that wasn't working. Doggie for a bit, but that was no good. So she then lays on her back and starts rubbing her puss. Her clit was a very nice size one too and she was into it. I was rubbing my little head on her puss at the same time. Well I got my two pops and had a very nice time with D. I give her eighty for her windsheild fund.
I give her an (A) because most sw's will be rushing you and not go the extra mile.
I hope she is still around, I would like to see her again.
September 1, 2007
East St. Louis shuts down two motels
Code violations, signs of illegal activity found
BY CAROLYN P. SMITH
News-Democrat
EAST ST. LOUIS --
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A trail of evidence from a Friday morning burglary at Royal Beauty Supply in the 900 block of St. Louis Avenue led police to the Royal Inn Motel, 320 N.10th St.
There, the smell of crack and marijuana led police to do a more extensive investigation, which eventually led to the motel being shut down.
"We found sufficient fire (and) life safety violations to recommend that the motel is not safe for occupancy," Fire Chief William H. Fennoy said.
Later, police also shut down the Discreet Motel at Eighth Street and St. Clair Avenue for suspected drug and prostitution activity.
East St. Louis Detective Mario Fennoy said police found signs of illegal drug activity and possible illegal liquor sales at the Discreet Motel. He also said that police found small amounts of marijuana inside the Royal Inn, and that several females who were at the business had been arrested before on drug and prostitution charges.
Mario Fennoy, who is William Fennoy's son, said business owners can not rent any rooms for any reason at either business.
"It will be shut down until the owners come into compliance with several ordinance, fire code and occupancy violations," Fennoy said of the Royal Inn. "Some people have been living here for between two months to five years. This is a motel, and no one should be living here."
Police found derelict cars parked on the parking lot. They were tagged to be towed. Some people started moving their things out Friday morning.
Nalini and Nilang Trivedie, owners of the Royal Inn Motel, said all of the rooms were for single occupancy. They said they were not aware they had as many safety violations as the investigators found. They said they plan to comply and fix all of the violations.
The Trivedie's said they were not aware of any illegal activity going on at the business.
Contact reporter Carolyn P. Smith at csmith@bnd.com or 239-2503.
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The owners of the Royal Inn charge men $10 to go inside and see a girl. Now they claim they are not aware of any illegal activity. I just don't believe them
Alex P Keaton
09-02-07, 11:03
I have Sugar's cell phone number for any senior member or well-established regular member who wishes to send me a private message.
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Henis quoting the newspaper: "Later, police also shut down the Discreet Motel...for suspected drug and prostitution activity."
Really, how long have the police *suspected* drug activity at the Discreet [chuckle]?
I once mentioned I saw 20-something Amanda using a crack pipe. I didn't mention at the time that I saw Amanda using the crack pipe *inside* the Discreet Motel [double chuckle].
While inside the Discreet Hotel--don't know why they call it a motel (it's a hotel)--I happened to stroll beyond the rooms open to the public. Crystal said, "You're not suppose to go back there." In a small back room, Amanda was toking on a crack pipe. This was in March.
I guess the Discreet is a combination "whorehouse" and crackhouse. I wonder if they had a rule saying you had to be a woman to use crack there?
I also mentioned once that the ladies paid a lot of respect and close attention to the old 60-something black gentleman who sits in the rocking chair, quietly watching everything that goes on. I think he or his daughter is the owner of the Discreet.
The ladies paid very close attention to him and closely followed his instruction--I got the impression he was also their drug dealer.
Crystal introduced me to the 40-something daughter and said she is the owner of the Discreet--could be the rocking chair man passed ownership down to her or it's joint ownership.
Anyhow, now that the Discreet and the Royal Inn have been shut down, I don't see how my revelations above can hurt. I didn't say anything 6 months ago while they were still open.
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This is how the Discreet seemed to operate for prostitutes. Get laid, use the money to buy crack from the owner, smoke it on premises [kinda funny].
Well if I remember right, a known prostitute was raped and beat to death at the Discrete about a year, heck maybe two years ago. Also it was reported by a member here that one SW claimed to have been kept there against her will by the owner.
Here's a link to Fred's post about the death at the Discreet
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=459703#post459703
I also found TommyBoy's post about Katie claiming to have been kept at the Discreet
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491723&highlight=alabama#post491723
Heard enough bad things about the place here that I never ventured inside. The Royal Inn, I foolishly ignored the warnings about it and had a very lackluster session with Crystal. I can't see how the owners didn't know about the violations. I wonder where all the girls who were staying there have gone now? There might be more out on the stroll looking to score quick money now.
Rosco, recently I found out that Fairmont does in fact have at least one Dodge Charger patrol car. I actually got a nice up close look at it, thankfully my vantage point wasn't the rear seat. Not really mongering related, except I was headed to the Hollywood Club!, so I won't go into the details.
Jennifer
Had a nice time with Jennifer recently. Picked her up and we headed to a notel. She told me about getting run over by a whacked out guy. She had gotten into his vehicle but he started acting strange. Scared her to the point that she jumped out of the vehicle while it was still moving as he slowed to get onto the interstate. The rear tire ran over her lower leg, ankle, and foot. She had tire rubber imbedded into her skin on her leg.
She also asked if I had seen Shannon out, which I had not. Said she had heard that she had been beaten up by a customer earlier in the week. Had also heard that Melissa had been raped and beaten also. That is on top of both of them having abusive boyfriends.
The time with Jennifer was pretty good. She took a shower and then we got comfortable on the bed. Sometimes she can seem in a bit of a rush but this time she wasn't. Maybe it was because the room was nice and cool while it was hot as hell outside. We watched some tv and spent about half an hour fooling around before starting the main event. I don't DATY with providers but I do enjoy having some fun with my fingers. The main event was good, lasting two rounds.
Lady
I also recently picked up a bsw who goes by Lady. This was the second time I've picked her up. She gave a very good bbj. She knew how to work it good and didn't mind gagging on me as she went deep. After that I went for a second round of fs but was a bit disappointed. She was in way too much of a rush to get the match over with. Might pick her up again just for the bj but not fs.
Blue Sterling
09-02-07, 15:57
Here's a link to Fred's post about the death at the Discreet
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=459703#post459703
I also found TommyBoy's post about Katie claiming to have been kept at the Discreet
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=491723&highlight=alabama#post491723
One trip to Discreet was enough for me. Started with 1 provider, half way through she stopped and sent someone else into the room. On the way out, the "doorman" hit me up for a tip for watching my car. Yes, classy.
There is nothing worth that experience. Avoid this place.
Blue Sterling wrote, "There is nothing worth that experience."
Yes, I agree. Like you, I just used the Discreet once, and only once. It was with Crystal, the first street walker I ever picked up.
But it was interesting to see the kind of places the girls sometimes work in.
I'd like to learn more about the death that happened inside the Discreet--like if anyone was ever charged.
I was friend of Mercedes the lady that was murdered and no one was ever charged and from what I have learned from the family it was not even really investigated. No one cares about a crack ***** except their families. The room the murder took place in amazing was gutted by fire the next day so no evidence could be collected and the video that taped everyone going in and out of the place was you guessed it broken that night.
I'd like to learn more about the death that happened inside the Discreet--like if anyone was ever charged.
Well Rosco, there are several of us around here that feel the same way. Unfortunately what news is reported about such crimes in the East St. Louis area has little to no follow up. There has been several missing persons and deaths over the last few years that to the best of knowledge have never had anymore reported on them. Just off the top of my head: the woman found dead by the railroad tracks in Brooklyn, the woman found strangled in E. St.Louis, Staci a sw from the area who was found dead in Michigan, and the woman killed at the Discreet.
Jannisary wrote, "...there are several of us around here that feel the same way."
Well, you guys live near that area. I would suggest calling the local newspapers up and ask them to follow up on the "Death inside the Discreet" story. They will sometimes act on your request.
Yesterday's newspaper article doesn't make clear whether the owner of the Discreet was charged with promoting prostitution or "possible illegal liquor sales," just saying the Discreet has been shut down. Sloppy reporting.
I would guess the owner has not been charged, then. Let's all pray for him/her.
Illegal alcohol sales are better than being suspected and/or charged with illegal crack cocaine sales [chuckle].
The officer said, "...police found signs of illegal drug activity and possible illegal liquor sales at the Discreet Motel."
Let's hope the cops are being lenient with the Discreet owner since "signs of illegal" activity are not the same as "evidence" of illegal activity. Same applies to "possible" alcohol sales.
Willy Word
09-02-07, 18:50
Jannisary wrote, "...there are several of us around here that feel the same way."
Well, you guys live near that area. I would suggest calling the local newspapers up and ask them to follow up on the "Death inside the Discreet" story. They will sometimes act on your request.
Yesterday's newspaper article doesn't make clear whether the owner of the Discreet was charged with promoting prostitution or "possible illegal liquor sales," just saying the Discreet has been shut down. Sloppy reporting.
I would guess the owner has not been charged, then. Let's all pray for him/her.
Illegal alcohol sales are better than being suspected and/or charged with illegal crack cocaine sales [chuckle].
The officer said, "...police found signs of illegal drug activity and possible illegal liquor sales at the Discreet Motel."
Let's hope the cops are being lenient with the Discreet owner since "signs of illegal" activity are not the same as "evidence" of illegal activity. Same applies to "possible" alcohol sales.Why would you even worry about the Discreet Motel. You said you've only used it once so whats the issue? Its the worst place for SW's anyways. Thats usually the ugliest ones that hang out around there. Royal Inn shouldn't effect you either. For the most part you have no business in any of these areas and should probably just be sticking to exchange and the washrack. Let's be serious, you thought I was a cop because I said I took a SW near the corner of 13th and lake. If you had any business in the area and really knew the streets you would know there's an alley right there around the corner where you can pull up in and be secluded. For those that do know I'm talkin about the one with the big stones that you have to watch for when you back up. And do you honestly think that I'm a cop trying to get you to go down there and get shot. You obviously have no streetsmarts and are probably fortunate you've never been robbed or anything yet. I always stick to the area between 15th, exchange, 9th, and gross. If you know the area and what houses are good to park near its the safest place to be away from cops. However, if your have a zero in streetsmarts (like it sounds like you do) you shouldn't be back there to much because you will be a target. Step it up a little bit and stop worrying about cops on a message board or what happened to what hotel. If you know the streets you don't have to worry about police on this board (as if they would waste their time anyways) Every cop in East Stl knows where all the drags are. You should already know that. This board is more of a good way for us to communicate the skills of different girls, where stings are going on, and where to find certain girls. Get it together.
Jennifer
Had a nice time with Jennifer recently. Picked her up and we headed to a notel. She told me about getting run over by a whacked out guy. She had gotten into his vehicle but he started acting strange. Scared her to the point that she jumped out of the vehicle while it was still moving as he slowed to get onto the interstate. The rear tire ran over her lower leg, ankle, and foot. She had tire rubber imbedded into her skin on her leg.
She also asked if I had seen Shannon out, which I had not. Said she had heard that she had been beaten up by a customer earlier in the week. Had also heard that Melissa had been raped and beaten also. That is on top of both of them having abusive boyfriends.
I wish the guys will quit beating up the sw. It just makes it hard on the next guy looking for fun. The sw will tin to rush service or worst.
Years ago I had a car date with a sw which was good. Later that night I was checking my front seats and floor to make sure all was clear and found a small pocket knife that she had dropped. You just never know what they have on them. She may had a very bad date and started carrying the knife.
Willy Word,
I don't agree that that you only find the ugliest ones at the Discreet Hotel & the Royal Inn. I have found Jennifer & Shannon, both pretty girls, working at both hotels this year. It's just that the better looking girls only go there when business is slow, their homes get raided or boyfriends get locked up and they only stay a few days. Jennifer told me once that the owner will give the girls food even if they aren't making any money.
Why would you even worry about the Discreet Motel. You said you've only used it once so whats the issue? Its the worst place for SW's anyways. Thats usually the ugliest ones that hang out around there. Royal Inn shouldn't effect you either...
Willy Word wrote, "Let's be serious, you thought I was a cop because I said I took a SW near the corner of 13th and lake."
Willy Word, you are really an annoying little fart.
I never said you were a cop, and I never even thought such a thing. Believe me, you're not half as smart as most cops.
You haven't learned much in the few months you've been here.
Let's hope the cops are being lenient with the Discreet owner since "signs of illegal" activity are not the same as "evidence" of illegal activity. Same applies to "possible" alcohol sales.[/color][/QUOTE]Rosco, I can't help but think of Casablanca here when the head cop says: "I'm shocked, totaly shocked, to learn that gambling is going on in this establishment".
Keep up the good work! We all enjoy your reports.
Willy Word
09-03-07, 13:24
Willy Word,
I don't agree that that you only find the ugliest ones at the Discreet Hotel & the Royal Inn. I have found Jennifer & Shannon, both pretty girls, working at both hotels this year. It's just that the better looking girls only go there when business is slow, their homes get raided or boyfriends get locked up and they only stay a few days. Jennifer told me once that the owner will give the girls food even if they aren't making any money.I have seen some decent ones down at Royal Inn and I've taken some there. To be honest I can't believe Royal Inn lasted as long as it did. They were charging rent to some people but quite a few had been living there. That had been known for so long as a crack spot that I'm amazed it lasted as long as it did. Lots of girls had been recycled through there. As for discreet I guess I just never really saw anything good there personally.
Willy Word
09-03-07, 14:06
Willy Word wrote, "Let's be serious, you thought I was a cop because I said I took a SW near the corner of 13th and lake."
Willy Word, you are really an annoying little fart.
I never said you were a cop, and I never even thought such a thing. Believe me, you're not half as smart as most cops.
You haven't learned much in the 4 months you've been here.You make a lot of little slick comments so someone had to take you down to reality thats all. If you just keep it conversation without the slick talk then there is no problems and everyone can share good information.
Everybody has different posting styles. Rosco has his style, Willy Word has another. Some members like to post about stuff happening in the area in general or stuff thats only tangentially related to mongering, others like to keep it to the bare minimum facts. Whatever works for you I say but bickering and attacking, even passive aggressively, other members really doesn't contribute much to the board.
The Discreet Hotel is worth discussing simply because its there. It is a landmark something we all drive by on a regular basis and its been an active part of the mongering scene for quite some time. Henis has a point about it being a place for any of the girls to go who are even more down on their luck than usual. But it does have its dark and sinister side of the coin too. I'm definitely not going to be praying the he/she gets off. I might pray for the girls who are scampering trying to find a place to stay; but not for the owner.
The Royal Inn is worth discussing because it also was a haven of sorts for many of the girls. I can't remember her name, which I hate to admit, but this summer I met an older blond sw who stayed there. She claimed to only sporadically work the streets, relying mostly on regulars who'd call her. She was clean, had a nice body and gave a really terrific bj (and best of all was in absolutely no rush) and I can't help but wonder where she is sleeping tonight.
This view may be controversial but personally I think the city HAD to shut those two places down. The Royal Inn was a death trap just waiting to happen from what I saw in my one visit. I'm not a trained code inspector but it was pretty obvious to me. It was also pretty obvious that illegal activities were taking place. The Discreet has a history of drugs, prostitution, and violence. Many of you guys probably think it would be best if E. St. Louis was just wide open; everything and anything available for a price with little or no law enforcement interference. But for the city to survive and have any chance at more than a minimal existence they have to take action on places like this. I believe a certain minimum level of law enforcement and proper governance is needed even though I only go to the city to monger and these two places fall below that level.
Willy Word
09-03-07, 23:13
Everybody has different posting styles. Rosco has his style, Willy Word has another. Some members like to post about stuff happening in the area in general or stuff thats only tangentially related to mongering, others like to keep it to the bare minimum facts. Whatever works for you I say but bickering and attacking, even passive aggressively, other members really doesn't contribute much to the board.
The Discreet Hotel is worth discussing simply because its there. It is a landmark something we all drive by on a regular basis and its been an active part of the mongering scene for quite some time. Henis has a point about it being a place for any of the girls to go who are even more down on their luck than usual. But it does have its dark and sinister side of the coin too. I'm definitely not going to be praying the he/she gets off. I might pray for the girls who are scampering trying to find a place to stay; but not for the owner.
The Royal Inn is worth discussing because it also was a haven of sorts for many of the girls. I can't remember her name, which I hate to admit, but this summer I met an older blond sw who stayed there. She claimed to only sporadically work the streets, relying mostly on regulars who'd call her. She was clean, had a nice body and gave a really terrific bj (and best of all was in absolutely no rush) and I can't help but wonder where she is sleeping tonight.
This view may be controversial but personally I think the city HAD to shut those two places down. The Royal Inn was a death trap just waiting to happen from what I saw in my one visit. I'm not a trained code inspector but it was pretty obvious to me. It was also pretty obvious that illegal activities were taking place. The Discreet has a history of drugs, prostitution, and violence. Many of you guys probably think it would be best if E. St. Louis was just wide open; everything and anything available for a price with little or no law enforcement interference. But for the city to survive and have any chance at more than a minimal existence they have to take action on places like this. I believe a certain minimum level of law enforcement and proper governance is needed even though I only go to the city to monger and these two places fall below that level.I understand that and respect what you said here. Only reason I really typed what I did is because I was talked to slickly on two occasions and I thought I would give a response to it after I had went back and looked at it again. To all I apologize for what I said about discreet having the ugly girls and your right it is most definitely relevant to discussion. I said nothing bad about Royal Inn but to be honest I won't really miss the place. I used to go there from time to time but I don't get along with a few people that hang out there so I hadn't been there in a couple months really. I knew they were gonna shut it down eventually considering the crack smoking was so out in the open. I've been in there standing in the hall talking to people while they were hittin the pipe right there. You had to figure police would come in sooner or later and catch them. I usually stick to neighborhood mongering because I feel safer from police. I know alot of the girls back in there to so I don't really have to do open street pickups. Also I only deal with BSW's because everytime I've ever heard about someone gettin busted. 9 times out of 10 it is when dealing with white SW's. Plus the black ones back there get more selection and I always find new ones. But your right there is no reason for back and forth stuff and I tried to say that from the jump if you check the post history but I don't like being slick talked to or about so I had to speak up.
Thanks for the info and heads up. Do you happen to have a pic or a link to a pic? That way we can identify who it is, otherwise we will have no way of knowing.
Willy Word
09-04-07, 21:26
All -
I had posted a positive report on Katie in Indiana\Indianapolis\Escorts. She was indeed a good provider. However there is a concern with her level of integrity. We had previously agreed upon a return appointment. During our first appointment we had agreed on an exchange of services of two meetings for two hours a piece in exchange for a very handsome electronic item that was worth almost 2x the cost of both meetings. She seemed very amiable to this. I now know why.
After a couple of weeks of our first meeting, I made several attempts to contact Katie. I had left voicemails and sent emails to no avail. After about 3 weeks of this and speaking with another monger, I was told she had left for Illinois for good. I
Just thought that you good folks should be aware of this unfortunate situation with Katie in the event she would continue to ply her trade in your state.
Cruising on By..............
Indy CruiserAll I have to say is that you are a very trusting individual.
This view may be controversial but personally I think the city HAD to shut those two places down. The Royal Inn was a death trap just waiting to happen from what I saw in my one visit. I'm not a trained code inspector but it was pretty obvious to me. It was also pretty obvious that illegal activities were taking place. The Discreet has a history of drugs, prostitution, and violence. Many of you guys probably think it would be best if E. St. Louis was just wide open; everything and anything available for a price with little or no law enforcement interference. But for the city to survive and have any chance at more than a minimal existence they have to take action on places like this. I believe a certain minimum level of law enforcement and proper governance is needed even though I only go to the city to monger and these two places fall below that level.I’ve only been in the Royal once & the Discreet twice but would have to agree with your remarks about the hotels. For the safety of all involved they should be brought up to code, though I do hope they reopen soon and wonder where the girls will stay in the meantime. In the news article Detective Fennoy says, "Some people have been living here for between two months to five years. This is a motel, and no one should be living here." Apparently the good detective has never heard of “street people”? Where would he suggest these girls stay? In one of the many abandoned buildings in the area? This whole thing just doesn’t pass the smell test with me. If a burglary led them to the Royal why shut down the Discreet as well. My friends it looks to me like the new mayor may be making good on his law & order campaign pledges. That can be nothing but bad for the hobby the way I see it. The sad thing is that crime is only the tip of the iceberg where ESL’s problems are concerned.
Just my .02
I’ve only been in the Royal once & the Discreet twice but would have to agree with your remarks about the hotels. For the safety of all involved they should be brought up to code, though I do hope they reopen soon and wonder where the girls will stay in the meantime. In the news article Detective Fennoy says, "Some people have been living here for between two months to five years. This is a motel, and no one should be living here." Apparently the good detective has never heard of “street people”? Where would he suggest these girls stay? In one of the many abandoned buildings in the area? This whole thing just doesn’t pass the smell test with me. If a burglary led them to the Royal why shut down the Discreet as well. My friends it looks to me like the new mayor may be making good on his law & order campaign pledges. That can be nothing but bad for the hobby the way I see it. The sad thing is that crime is only the tip of the iceberg where ESL’s problems are concerned. Just my .02
I was wondering the same thing.
Indy Cruiser
09-06-07, 19:12
Thanks for the info and heads up. Do you happen to have a pic or a link to a pic? That way we can identify who it is, otherwise we will have no way of knowing.
Someone posted photos of her on the Kentucky\Louisville\General Reports section. As always, YMMV.
Cruising On By..
Indy Cruiser
Willy Word
09-09-07, 03:08
Seriously this new mayor is trying to make an impact. Was out tonight Sat/Early Sun around 12:30-2:00 and in that time I saw cops pull up on 2 different sets of girls around the washrack so them cuffing and taking away one. Only went down towards the rack because when I went down CR rd and took the brick rd (9th that turns into gross) to go back to the complex back there. There were 2 cop cars pulling around the perimeter so I kept going down gross and turned on 15th but they were glaring at me before I took off. Came back to CR rd about 15 minutes later going the other direction towards fairmount and as luck would have it the cop that was glaring at me is going the other way. He looks at me again and does a you-turn at lynch. Luckily I had someone behind me and I kept going under the bridge and he stopped there. But to make along story short police everywhere. And I even came to find out the girl I was going to see in the complex got arrested earlier in the evening. To sum this all up. Be careful and before you pick anyone up make sure you drive the area first because they are trying to hide and watch from a distance. Check the area first!
Around 8am this morning, I saw the girl known as Dirty Red near the Western Inn and Phillips 66 Gas station on Collinsville Rd. She was wearing a white top, white jeans, dark glasses and a baseball cap. The owner of the Western Inn was watching her closely. I know that he has kicked out a few SW's before dispite the fact that he dates them too. I drove by about a thirty minutes later and she was on Collinsville Rd. near Lynch street.
The Wash Rack is still dead! I saw an Illinois State Police car parked on Exchange Ave. near the Hillcrest Hotel. Natually, I steered clear of Exchange Ave. LE seemed to be watching people down the street.
Henis wrote, "Hey Rosco2! How do you change the text colors in your posts?"
Henis, I used the red text just to say to guys that the post had been updated since its original posting. This way I didn't have to write a whole new post.
I'm sure you know we have 24 hours to edit our posts.
To create red text, type [ color=red ] Your Text [/color]. Don't include any spaces, though, like I have. If I hadn't include spaces, you wouldn't have seen the instructions, instead "Your Text" would have appeared red :-)
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I posted in the open forum in case anybody else had the same question.
Don't try to use blue as that color is reserved for Jackson, our host.
KC Questor
09-09-07, 20:09
Codes to modify the text in your posts (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode)
Scroll down to see examples of each of the codes. Rosco2 could have used [red] rather than [color=red] since both [red] and [blue] are pre-coded. Note that some of these codes are not enabled on this particular bulletin board.
Are these codes and other formatting commands listed somewhere on this forum?
Codes to modify the text in your posts (http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/misc.php?do=bbcode)
Scroll down to see examples of each of the codes. Rosco2 could have used [red] rather than [color=red] since both [red] and [blue] are pre-coded. Note that some of these codes are not enabled on this particular bulletin board.
Do you guys know if Thunder Road is actually a strip bar, or is it like a coyote ugly type of place? I was a huge regular and fan of 64, I had some of the best times ever (beside of the old Fantasy Land club) in that place. I'm thinking about hitting TR this weekend, any heads up?
Sometimes I like to hit the stroll in the morning (8:30 to 9:00) before work, but lately it seems that the pickings have been slim and the police presence has been heavy. Two mornings ago an ISP cruiser was parked by the wash rack. Yesterday morning an ESL patrol car was parked across from the rack. Seeing no girls on the main stroll I hit the side streets. Picked up Jenna on 13th between Lake and Lynch.
Jenna has been reported on before. WSW, I'm guessing mid 30s, with light brown hair, good size tits, over-all reasonably thin but with loose belly skin hanging down a bit. Agreed on FS at notel for .5. Service was decent, nothing outstanding. She was patient and didn't rush me, but didn't show much enthusiasm either. One complaint would be that she did CBJ whereas I prefer BBBJ.
Conversation on the way back: She hasn't seen Jennifer in a long time. She saw Melissa a few nights ago in panties only having recently been beaten and raped. Melissa is still with Doug despite his beating her. (She must be hitting a new low; she used to leave guys when they got abusive.) Jenna also confirmed what has been reported on this board about the heavier police presence as of late. She's not sure where all the girls are who were staying at the Royal Inn and Discrete. Of course, there are lots of houses where girls can get a bed at $20 a night.
On way back saw Nina, an overweight BSW at corner of CR and Lake. She has a large belly hanging down over her shorts from having recently had a baby. Dropped Jenna off at crack house and split.
BTW, if you are looking for BSWs on the side streets in the AM, be aware that there are civilians out on their way to work, school or whatever. Especially if they are walking toward the Metrolink, do not assume they are SWs. I saw this gorgeous cute little college-age black girl with the most amazing ass walking toward the Metro-link. I figured she probably was not a SW but I drove past her anyway just to get a closer look. She gave me a very disgusted go-to-hell look and continued on her way. Can't say as I blame her.
Alex P Keaton
09-13-07, 20:37
Jenna has been reported on before. WSW, I'm guessing mid 30s, with light brown hair, good size tits, over-all reasonably thin but with loose belly skin hanging down a bit.
I learned that she spells her name Gena although it is pronounced like Jenna, and that she is 32.
An aside to anyone who got Sugar's cell phone number from me: Sugar left town a couple of days ago and Gena inherited her phone.
Alex P Keaton wrote, "Sugar left town a couple of days ago and Gena inherited her phone."
Alex, thanks for that info. Would you happen to know if Sugar will be back, or is she gone for good?
Alex P Keaton
09-13-07, 23:32
Would you happen to know if Sugar will be back, or is she gone for good?
I do not know. Sugar was closest with Gena right before she left, so if Sugar is going to return, maybe we'll hear about it from Gena.
Cruised Wednesday evening around nine and Friday evening around midnight on the loop of 1st, CR and Exchange. Never seen it so dead. Wednesday I saw a couple BSW, very chunky and not my type so I passed and there was LE seemingly on every corner. Friday I went off CR onto a couple of the side streets and saw 2 girls but was very leary of the neighborhood so passed. Saw three local LE and had one shine his spotlight at me so figured better horny than jailed.
Picked up Amanda, WSW, 20, thin, today around 2. Quick motel, not really worth the effort. Cracked to the hilt, very nervous. Cute girl, but doesn't like what she does and isn't very good at it. Says she's been on the streets four years. You'the think after that long she could at least pretend.
She told me everyone is laying low. Also, she's been in a car wreck, several bruises and a large redstomach scar she says is from surgery after the wreck. Still ugly and red, can't be being helped by the drugs.
Mr New Mayor, please move onto something else. This is becoming a real pain.
Zero Cool07
09-16-07, 19:00
It was also dead today 10am or so.
I was told everyone moved off of cr and went to the side roads (west off of cr) I was back there a few years ago, it looked a little ruff for me.
He did the white house, that we all know, burn? I was by there today and the windows are covered with wood. The home is still standing and does not look burnt from the outside, but the wood on the windows can't be a good thing.
Cruised Wednesday evening around nine and Friday evening around midnight on the loop of 1st, CR and Exchange. Never seen it so dead. Wednesday I saw a couple BSW, very chunky and not my type so I passed and there was LE seemingly on every corner. Friday I went off CR onto a couple of the side streets and saw 2 girls but was very leary of the neighborhood so passed. Saw three local LE and had one shine his spotlight at me so figured better horny than jailed.
Picked up Amanda, WSW, 20, thin, today around 2. Quick motel, not really worth the effort. Cracked to the hilt, very nervous. Cute girl, but doesn't like what she does and isn't very good at it. Says she's been on the streets four years. You'the think after that long she could at least pretend.
She told me everyone is laying low. Also, she's been in a car wreck, several bruises and a large redstomach scar she says is from surgery after the wreck. Still ugly and red, can't be being helped by the drugs.
Mr New Mayor, please move onto something else. This is becoming a real pain.On CR, Fri. night at about 12:30-1, a wsw was hanging near the tavern place. Looked cute, young blond in a short skirt. I didn't partake. You must have just missed her.
On rte 3 the same night, kitty corner to the rack, 3 bsw and a dude were hanging in front of hardware store.
Member #3213
09-17-07, 12:42
She saw Melissa a few nights ago in panties only having recently been beaten and raped. If this happened at about midnight, north of the hardware store, by the park, on the night in question, I saw it in progress. I wasn't sure which SW it was, but the pimp/assailant was going to town with a 2x4 on her. Being alone, and in that neighborhood, I was not about to get involved.
Larks Tongue
09-17-07, 13:26
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/laworder/story/C964C89BC6C9EE5986257359000C2441?OpenDocument
BROOKLYN: Former massage parlor is damaged by fire
09/17/2007
The Illinois state fire marshal's office is investigating a suspicious fire late Saturday that extensively damaged a vacant building that once housed the Fantasyland massage parlor on Route 3 in Brooklyn, said Brooklyn Police Chief Leon Hughes.
Several fire departments spent several hours extinguishing the fire, and firefighters were called to the scene again about 6 a.m. Sunday because of a rekindling, Hughes added. No one was injured.
The building, which also housed a topless nightclub and an adult bookstore, has been vacant since federal agents seized it in late 1998 during an investigation.
I saw the three bsw and guy at the entrance to store opposite rack. Frankly, based only on the size of the girls, I thought there was a good possibility they might not be girls.
I made the circuit several times and they were always right there. Maybe they were just ugly, maybe more guys are not happy about stopping when there is a guy there, maybe they were there that long because they were LE?
In any event, I renew my plea: Mr Mayor go arrest the drug dealers. Leave the ladies alone!
The building that was originally Free Spirit Massage Parlor and later became Buddy's burned down a few years ago. Real strange that two buildings that have been vacant for almost ten years catch on fire. Both buildings had been seized by the federal government. Wonder if the feds had a motive to burn the places down.
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/news/stories.nsf/laworder/story/C964C89BC6C9EE5986257359000C2441?OpenDocument
BROOKLYN: Former massage parlor is damaged by fire
09/17/2007
The Illinois state fire marshal's office is investigating a suspicious fire late Saturday that extensively damaged a vacant building that once housed the Fantasyland massage parlor on Route 3 in Brooklyn, said Brooklyn Police Chief Leon Hughes.
Several fire departments spent several hours extinguishing the fire, and firefighters were called to the scene again about 6 a.m. Sunday because of a rekindling, Hughes added. No one was injured.
The building, which also housed a topless nightclub and an adult bookstore, has been vacant since federal agents seized it in late 1998 during an investigation.
Alex P Keaton
09-17-07, 18:25
The Illinois state fire marshal's office is investigating a suspicious fire late Saturday that extensively damaged a vacant building that once housed the Fantasyland massage parlor on Route 3 in Brooklyn, said Brooklyn Police Chief Leon Hughes.
As I was the night of the Buddy's fire -- http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=412321&postcount=27 -- I was at Roxy's during the Fantasyland fire Saturday night. (Just a coincidence, Chief Hughes, I promise.) The firefighters arrived around 10 p.m. and the police blocked Route 3, which kept a fair number of aspiring strip club patrons away from Roxy's and PT's Brooklyn on what should otherwise have been a busy (Cubs vs. Cards) night.
Alex P Keaton
09-17-07, 18:35
He did the white house, that we all know, burn? I was by there today and the windows are covered with wood. The home is still standing and does not look burnt from the outside, but the wood on the windows can't be a good thing.
The white house, which the girls refer to as "Wes's house," was reportedly condemned. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=564099&postcount=597 After that, the windows were boarded up. Since then, however, I've seen someone using a weed whacker powered by an extension cord plugged in inside the house, which is an interesting level of upkeep for a condemned house.
Jazzy Pepsi
09-17-07, 18:56
At this point in time there is a lawsuit pending about fantasyland to see who really owns it, because rumor has it that Mr. Baker did not own it. It is being said he owned the building but not the ground it is on.
Larks Tongue
09-17-07, 18:57
Both buildings had been seized by the federal government. Wonder if the feds had a motive to burn the places down.
Yeah the feds needed the insurance money. *grins* You'd think that the feds would have either leveled those buildings by now or try to get someone to buy them and rehab them. We can always use more place for a little relief/release on that side of the river.
The Fantasyland building was in sad shape. If you took a close look at it in the daylight it was obviously in very poor condition. Probably had no upkeep done to it since being seized by the feds. Looked pretty cheaply built to begin with though. It also appeared to be a target of vandals or vagrants breaking into it from the side right next to the adult bookstore. I mentioned in a previous post seeing workmen boarding up a hole in that area of the building.
The federal judge in charge of the whole mess does not want the Fantasyland property or the Buddy's property being used for adult businesses. Guess he would rather the properties rote and then be vandalized, burnt, and eventually torn down (at our expense!) than be redeveloped by the ONLY viable business model in the area. Brooklyn is getting screwed by this judge if you think about the lose of property tax revenue, business license fees, and sales tax. Plus the properties just looked terrible and probably hurt the property value of the surrounding buildings. But a holier than though federal judge doesn't care about that.
On a related note, do you think the reopening of the Mckinley bridge (planned for November) will have a positive impact on Brooklyn and the clubs?
The white house, which the girls refer to as "Wes's house," was reportedly condemned. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showpost.php?p=564099&postcount=597 After that, the windows were boarded up. Since then, however, I've seen someone using a weed whacker powered by an extension cord plugged in inside the house, which is an interesting level of upkeep for a condemned house.
What happens to a "condemned" house really depends on which process was used and the ability of the property owner to fight it. Posting the sign is just a first step and the property owner can take steps to fix the situation. Part of those steps would be to mow, trim and pick up the property. The owner would probably also have to petition the St. Clair circuit court to stop the condemnation. It really depends on what process the city is using. The city may have also not condemned it which is really declaring it a dangerous property; they may have declared it a nuisance property. It can get complicated.
Larks Tongue
09-17-07, 23:22
The federal judge in charge of the whole mess does not want the Fantasyland property or the Buddy's property being used for adult businesses. Guess he would rather the properties rote and then be vandalized, burnt, and eventually torn down (at our expense!) than be redeveloped by the ONLY viable business model in the area. Brooklyn is getting screwed by this judge if you think about the lose of property tax revenue, business license fees, and sales tax. Plus the properties just looked terrible and probably hurt the property value of the surrounding buildings. But a holier than though federal judge doesn't care about that.
That's too bad. There are plenty of people that don't appreciate places like Las Vegas and Atlantic city. The simple solution is for those people don't go there and allow those areas that want business like that to reap the benefits from it. It is too bad that Brooklyn couldn't have rehab that area and make it into a sinners paradise. Again if you don't want to go to it no one is making you. The city of Brooklyn would have had all those tax dollars from the last 10 years.
I don't want to sound paranoid here but I just came through our favorite stroll. There was 3 wsw and one bsw on the streets. They were all dressed very clean and tidy. Their hair was in in place and all a healthy look to them. Had never seen any of them before. Stopped in front of tall red head girl with high heels on and wearing very short shorts. Then she did something that surprised me she asked if she could get into my car. She did not engage in any conversation nor did she just hop in. I thought why was she asking my permission to get in? Am I paranoid or not?
Country Boy #3
09-19-07, 11:34
I don't want to sound paranoid here but I just came through our favorite stroll. There was 3 wsw and one bsw on the streets. They were all dressed very clean and tidy. Their hair was in in place and all a healthy look to them. Had never seen any of them before. Stopped in front of tall red head girl with high heels on and wearing very short shorts. Then she did something that surprised me she asked if she could get into my car. She did not engage in any conversation nor did she just hop in. I thought why was she asking my permission to get in? Am I paranoid or not?
Every girl I have stopped for over there has tried to get in as soon as I stopped. I think you were wise to be suspicious. You may have saved yourself a lot of trouble. As Chick Megee sez, The hottest hookers are cops.
Gonzo,
Always check the street for local males nearby. Whenever SW's are out, a "boyfriend" or some other fella is watching the street. When the cops are out, you will only see the decoys on the street.
I don't want to sound paranoid here but I just came through our favorite stroll. There was 3 wsw and one bsw on the streets. They were all dressed very clean and tidy. Their hair was in in place and all a healthy look to them. Had never seen any of them before. Stopped in front of tall red head girl with high heels on and wearing very short shorts. Then she did something that surprised me she asked if she could get into my car. She did not engage in any conversation nor did she just hop in. I thought why was she asking my permission to get in? Am I paranoid or not?
Mookie1733
09-20-07, 10:07
I too ran thru our favorite trail around 9:30pm and noticed a wsw that looked too good to be true, so be careful the le might decide to get rid of the johns if they can't run the tricks out! Be careful out there.
Alex P Keaton
09-22-07, 16:40
There certainly has been a larger presence by county and state police recently. In case it helps anyone, here is where I've seen them with cars pulled over during evenings in the past week.
September 14: I-64 eastbound nearest the 25th Street exit.
September 19: St. Clair Avenue southbound, just before the I-55/64/70 westbound onramp.
September 21: Collinsville Avenue westbound, having just turned off St. Clair Avenue.
September 21: Exchange Avenue northbound, having just turned off 9th Street. (Trunk opened, multiple patrol cars, glad I wasn't him.)
In any event, I renew my plea: Mr Mayor go arrest the drug dealers. Leave the ladies alone!
Surely Doug realizes why this would be short-sighted from a monger's perspective: without anything to buy, what would be the ladies' incentive to earn money servicing creepy men for low, low prices? I don't think they'd be inclined to save up for Manolo Blahnik shoes or downpayments on houses.
Back in August, I picked a girl up on Exchange Ave. & 4th Street. As we headed toward 1st Street, I noticed an IL State Trooper following us. I made a right turn onto a side street and the trooper turned too. I turned again and so did he. Decided to take the girl back to her house where she got out. When I dropped the girl off the trooper stopped following me. After that incident, I decided to stay off Exchange for awhile.
There certainly has been a larger presence by county and state police recently. In case it helps anyone, here is where I've seen them with cars pulled over during evenings in the past week.
September 14: I-64 eastbound nearest the 25th Street exit.
September 19: St. Clair Avenue southbound, just before the I-55/64/70 westbound onramp.
September 21: Collinsville Avenue westbound, having just turned off St. Clair Avenue.
September 21: Exchange Avenue northbound, having just turned off 9th Street. (Trunk opened, multiple patrol cars, glad I wasn't him.)
Surely Doug realizes why this would be short-sighted from a monger's perspective: without anything to buy, what would be the ladies' incentive to earn money servicing creepy men for low, low prices? I don't think they'd be inclined to save up for Manolo Blahnik shoes or downpayments on houses.
Willy Word
09-23-07, 21:47
Back in August, I picked a girl up on Exchange Ave. & 4th Street. As we headed toward 1st Street, I noticed an IL State Trooper following us. I made a right turn onto a side street and the trooper turned too. I turned again and so did he. Decided to take the girl back to her house where she got out. When I dropped the girl off the trooper stopped following me. After that incident, I decided to stay off Exchange for awhile.Anybody who does the exchange route is braver then me. There has been some on here who have in a round about way said I'm crazy for taking sw's in the area back off lynch, lake, 13th, etc. But to me the worst place to go is the exchange route cause you are boxed in the route for cops to get you. It's like the perfect trap for them. I will always stick to CR RD and the streets around it personally.
Well I got ripped off this weekend. She only got me for 20 but it still pisses me off. Let the little head do the thinking even though at least part of the big head was saying "this is a stupid move". I'd prefer if no one ever picks her skanky ass up again but if you just have to well at least cum in her eye for me!
After that I gave up and headed to WP where the girls at the Hollywood had their sweet ways with my wallet. I think I'm going to back off the street stuff and go back more to the clubs. Its more expensive but its more fun at least for me. Recently the only sw I've had real fun with was Sugar. Sure the rest (with the exception of Amanda) could and did get their jobs done but its not the same.
Luvtheladies
09-24-07, 00:30
...After that I gave up and headed to WP where the girls at the Hollywood had their sweet ways with my wallet. I think I'm going to back off the street stuff and go back more to the clubs. Its more expensive but its more fun at least for me...
Jannisary
Re: Zero Cool07 post on 91607, "Hollyextras" on the WP board here, any indications that there is one non-video booth?
Hate the neon interior @ Hollywood, but the ladies are usually hot, especially sometimes the private dance.
LTL
A week ago I hit Thunder Road for the first time since it changed names.
On the way there, I saw the "normal" looking activity at the wash rack. Most of the mongers here are in the area a lot more than I am, but it didn't seem any slower than normal to me. But, I did see 3 pigs on route 3 on my short span to get to Club 64/Thunder Road. WTF?
Anyways, if you are looking to take your game indoors to avoid the fuzz, Thunder Road "might" work for ya. When I dropped by last weekend, there were two white women working that night that had been working there 2 years ago. Both I had gotten BBBJ in the back for minimal money back then. One came and sat with me, and I asked her straight up, "so what's the scoop"? She said straight up that it was the same as it's always been. Meaning, everything was available. With the scammer girls, it costs a lot. With the older/nastier or typical black chic, it's very affordable (anything sort of f/s anyways). Some chics aren't a 100% sure thing there, that's why I typically test the well with my finger at the table before I head to the back. Although, there have been several chics who didn't pass the test at the table, but were more than willing in the back. YMMV. Typical prices I've paid in the past have ranged from 20-100 for BBBJ at this joint. I've never paid the big bucks to head upstairs, always had as much, or more fun than I could have gotten there doing regular "private dances".
My last trip, I took the older white chic I was talking to, to the back. She's older, but has Awesome tits. Thick NYC accent to her voice. I remember her because she digs kissing, although I'm not found of it with SW or strippers. Very oral overall. 40 later I was walking out a happy guy.
The place was redone to more suite "bikers". So it's been remodeled, nothing fancy of course, but not a huge pit. They now play country music there, which I can't stand, but I'll put up with it to get some cheap pussy.
Well I got ripped off this weekend. She only got me for 20 but it still pisses me off. Let the little head do the thinking even though at least part of the big head was saying "this is a stupid move". I'd prefer if no one ever picks her skanky ass up again but if you just have to well at least cum in her eye for me!
Amanda will definitely rip you off if given the chance. I would put her in the same category with the original Ashley (Shorty A) or Cherokee (Mindy). It's possible to have a successful date with them, but you have to watch your back and constantly be alert.
I had one date with Amanda about a year ago and she tried to rip me off. I didn't post it here before because it reads like an embarrassing list of things not to do on a date, but here goes: I picked her up on CR near the tavern. She asks me to pull onto the side streets and give her $20 so she can buy a rock before the date (mistake # 1). That goes off OK, but now she starts playing my radio loudly (104.1 of course), with the window down, bouncing up and down and sticking her head and both arms out the window making those whatever-you-call-them two fingers up in the air hip-hop signs to every local dude she sees on the street. Not exactly my idea of keeping a low profile when driving dirty.
We get to the motel and she asks me to buy her a room for the night (mistake # 2) and set it up where she is the guest but we use my ID to get the room (mistake #3). At this point I had already spent all the date money on the rock and the room; we had agreed she wasn't getting any additional cash. So I knew she had zero motivation to follow through with the date. I made sure I was in a position in front of her to receive the room key from the clerk which I did. Once I have the key Amanda says, "Why don't you give me the key; I'll go ahead and get the room open while you park the car." That made no sense at all and I knew she was setting me up for the classic "lock-out" rip off. So I said, "No, I'll keep the key and meet you at the room." She just pouts and says, "Why bother, you've got the key!" and jumps in the car. So we drive to the room together, and go in together.
Now that we're in the room together, she resigns herself to giving me the previously paid for date. But the performance was less than stellar. In fact, it was one of the worst that I've had. She gets naked. She is a young pretty girl with a great body, but with all the antics leading up to this, I'm not hard, so I ask her to give me head. She says, "I don't suck dick; I lick pussy." Well, that's an awfully convenient thing to say when there's only a dick in the room! She claims she likes to do doubles with Lisa and Lisa gives the head while she goes down on Lisa.
So I ask if I can lick her pussy. She says yes and I proceed to DATY. But while I'm doing it she picks up the phone and calls her mother! She talks to her mother the whole time I'm licking her pussy and obviously isn't getting into it. After she's finally off the phone, I glove up and start fucking her. She is on her back, legs spread and very compliant while I go at it but get this: she has the remote in her hand and is channel surfing the whole time!
This could easily be the worst date ever, but I said to myself, "Here is a young pretty girl who has no interest in me whatsoever and the last thing she wants to do is have sex with me, but because she is a stupid little crack head, I get to fuck her anyway!" Putting myself in that frame of mind worked and I was able to get off. Date over.
On the way out she asked me for a tip! I declined.
Jannisary wrote, "Well I got ripped off this weekend. [Amanda] only got me for 20 but it still pisses me off."
Jannisary, sorry to hear about your rip-off. Can you tell us what happened? Did she get into your car, accept your $20, then simply exit the vehicle--or did something else happen?
By the way, guys, when Sugar is back in town, let us know. I may make a trip to East St. Louis even on crutches...
Sugar is a cute gal and I had several fun times with her. With that said, its pretty clear some have not had great experiences. Definitely a YMMV situation with her.
I'm not sure if I want to tell the embarrassing details of my time with Amanda. Trying to think of a way to cutout identifying details just in case someone from here talks about it to her or some other street girls. Picked her off CR. Like Tommy Boy, I messed up and gave her $20 upfront. Said she needed to "pay the rent" (i figured buy crack), she exited my vehicle and eventually got back into it but then exited it again for good at a stop sign a block south of CR on Exchange. We were supposed to be headed to Fairmont where she could have earned at least twice that amount if not more if I had gone for multiple rounds.
Well I got ripped off this weekend. She only got me for 20 but it still pisses me off. Let the little head do the thinking even though at least part of the big head was saying "this is a stupid move". I'd prefer if no one ever picks her skanky ass up again but if you just have to well at least cum in her eye for me!
After that I gave up and headed to WP where the girls at the Hollywood had their sweet ways with my wallet. I think I'm going to back off the street stuff and go back more to the clubs. Its more expensive but its more fun at least for me. Recently the only sw I've had real fun with was Sugar. Sure the rest (with the exception of Amanda) could and did get their jobs done but its not the same.Any pics of Amanda on the site?
Thanks
Any pics of Amanda on the site?
Thanks
This is a link to a photo posted by Fred Reed. The girl on the right is Amanda.
http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29983
This is a link to a photo posted by Fred Reed. The girl on the right is Amanda.
http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29983
I'm not sure if that's the same gal Tommy Boy. The Amanda I picked up had blonder hair probably a bit longer and a much nicer looking face. It could be the same girl but usually they get worse looking as the years go by not better.
Jannisary wrote, "I'm not sure if I want to tell the embarrassing details of my time with Amanda."
Jannisary, thanks for providing the details of your rip-off. I'm sure many of us appreciate it a lot. There's nothing at all to be embarrassed about. Rip-offs happen to all of us. I described my rip-off a few months ago.
I guess the important thing to remember is not to blow one's cool
and to try to feel better by keeping in mind that we're sometimes more honest than some of the folks working the stroll :-)
Some ladies are great, but others are dishonest. It happens to all of us. The only good thing to do is just move on :-)
Seconding the earlier comment, I'm not sure it's the same girl either. The scam I experienced a week or so ago was identical to that reported, but I think the girl is younger than the one in the photo with Kelly.
This one is very blonde, bleached, thin, cute face. Claims to be 20 years old and nothing I saw says she's any older than that.
She will, however, take your money and run if you let her, and if she ends up in the room, it will be a lazy and unenthusiastic session. I would suggest your money would be better served by going to your local video store and buying something to watch while you satisfy yourself (Can you tell I wasn't happy?)
Well, somebody was killed as a result of a gunshot on Lynch Avenue today...in the 1400 block. That's just 3 blocks west of 9th and close to Exchange. I know I've driven down that scary-ass street when I was in town looking for SWs. (Pot holes big enough to swallow your car...)
Here's the BND.com story:
Police release name of man shot to death today in ESL
News-Democrat
EAST ST. LOUIS --
One man was killed and another shot overnight, according to East St. Louis police.
Franklin Jones, 23, of the 600 block of North 37th Street in East St. Louis, was shot to death. He was pronounced dead at Kenneth Hall Regional Hospital early today.
The other shooting victim, whose name was not released, remained hospitalized this afternoon. His condition was not available.
It was not known if the shootings are related.
The homicide represents the 24th this year in East St. Louis. There were 25 homicides during all of 2006 in the city.
Police received calls about 6 a.m. about shots fired in the 1400 block of Lynch Avenue but when officers arrived, they didn't find a victim. Officers subsequently found the victims at Kenneth Hall.
No suspects have been identified and a motive has not been established in Jones' death.
Guys, I am here to give you a warning. I have been to the Exchange area before and have picked up 3 differant girls. All have been legit. But today was differant.
First, let me say that I saw more girls out this afternoon than ever! And I picked the wrong one. I am sorry but I do not remember her name. She is a 30ish brunette. Nice slender body and a cute face. She was wearing a demin jacket and skirt. Also wearing black stockings and boots.
I first saw her walking across the street from Rio's. I was coming up behind her and thought "Damn what a nice ass and a great set of legs." I drove past her and made eye contact and she gave me that nod. I went around the block and met her on a side street. I asked her if she need a ride and she asked if she could get in. Once in the car, I asked her where she wanted to go. She replied "Hwy BJ" After the your not LE back and forth, she pulled her bra down and shwed me some nice titties and then I gave her nipples. With that out of the way, she asked what I wanted. I said a blow job and she stated .5 and I said .4 with CIMWS. She moaned and I told her that .4 was all I had. She agreed. As we drove she asked if I want to start, she started by rubbing my cock thru my jeans. She told me to go to the Metro Link parking lot. I thought it is easier to hide in plain site. When I got there she told me to park on the street. Me being the dumbass I am, did it. She pulled my dick out and then said money first. I gave it to her. At this point she stroked me and then asked if I had a napkin and then said she had to pee. RED FLAG! I said no way she was getting out with my money with out finishing her job. After a bit of a argument she stayed in the car. She start playing with my cock and did some sucking and then whispered that she wanted to fuck. I said no money, she said so what. we agreed to a quick CFS. She started giving me a pretty good blow job. Then all went bad.
I kneels in the seat and starts has me move my seat back and lean it back. Then, "OH SHIT IT IS MY CRAZY BOYFRIEND" My mind went oh fuck and my dick went limp. There about 2 feet from my door was a black man acting all pissed off. She jumps up, I start the car and she gets out to starts yelling at him as he walks away. I start pulling away and I see them hug.
Dumbass me!!! Out .40 but still alive and uninjured. Sorry about the length of this, but I wanted you guys to know so you can avoid her or if you do pick her up, some of this might help you.
Sam
Since my date with Amanda was over a year ago, my recollection of exactly what her face looks like is a little fuzzy. But I agree she has a prettier face than it looks in that picture. Since it's Fred's picture and he was always good about getting the names of the girls right, I just assumed it was a bad picture--the sun appears to be at an angle where it's putting shadows under the cheeks which always makes one look older--or maybe it was taken after an all-night crack binge? Or maybe there were two Amandas?
From the date details Doug and Jannisary have reported, we are definitely talking about the same girl: young, pretty, unenthusiastic, opportunistic, buyer beware.
Seconding the earlier comment, I'm not sure it's the same girl either. The scam I experienced a week or so ago was identical to that reported, but I think the girl is younger than the one in the photo with Kelly.
This one is very blonde, bleached, thin, cute face. Claims to be 20 years old and nothing I saw says she's any older than that.
She will, however, take your money and run if you let her, and if she ends up in the room, it will be a lazy and unenthusiastic session. I would suggest your money would be better served by going to your local video store and buying something to watch while you satisfy yourself (Can you tell I wasn't happy?)
First, thank you for this report. It would be great if you had remembered the name, but that's OK. Whenever I stop to pick up someone new, the first thing I ask through the window before letting her in is, "What's your name?" If it's someone who has been reported as a rip-off artist on this forum, I just tell her, "I've heard you rip guys off" and drive away. That's the only way they'll ever learn that their bad business practices have consequences.
Second, my hat is off to you guys that are adept at car dates. Between the possibility of being a cash & dash victim, being confronted by a "boyfriend" or other local or by the police, I just find it safer and easier to go to a motel. From what I've read, the key to a successful car date is taking her to your spot and never going to her spot. Ideally that spot is outside of the SWs comfortable walking range.
My main concern, though, is are there really any spots out there that the police don't know about? Obviously, I'm not asking for anyone to list any here on a public forum! I'm just saying are you really as safe as you think you are?
Finally, Crash, her suggestion that you drive to the Metro Link parking lot is a red flag. My understanding is that locals involved in either the sex or drug trades won't go onto Metro Link property because it has regular security patrols. One time I was doing something stupid. I drove a SW to a dope-buy and all did not go well as some dudes had unresolved issues with her (Lorna). We are pulling away from the scene but a car full of gang bangers is pursuing us! She told me to drive to Metro Link because they won't follow us onto Metro Link property. Sure enough, when they saw that's where I was headed, they peeled away.
Guys, I am here to give you a warning. I have been to the Exchange area before and have picked up 3 differant girls. All have been legit. But today was differant.
First, let me say that I saw more girls out this afternoon than ever! And I picked the wrong one. I am sorry but I do not remember her name. She is a 30ish brunette. Nice slender body and a cute face. She was wearing a demin jacket and skirt. Also wearing black stockings and boots.
I first saw her walking across the street from Rio's. I was coming up behind her and thought "Damn what a nice ass and a great set of legs." I drove past her and made eye contact and she gave me that nod. I went around the block and met her on a side street. I asked her if she need a ride and she asked if she could get in. Once in the car, I asked her where she wanted to go. She replied "Hwy BJ" After the your not LE back and forth, she pulled her bra down and shwed me some nice titties and then I gave her nipples. With that out of the way, she asked what I wanted. I said a blow job and she stated .5 and I said .4 with CIMWS. She moaned and I told her that .4 was all I had. She agreed. As we drove she asked if I want to start, she started by rubbing my cock thru my jeans. She told me to go to the Metro Link parking lot. I thought it is easier to hide in plain site. When I got there she told me to park on the street. Me being the dumbass I am, did it. She pulled my dick out and then said money first. I gave it to her. At this point she stroked me and then asked if I had a napkin and then said she had to pee. RED FLAG! I said no way she was getting out with my money with out finishing her job. After a bit of a argument she stayed in the car. She start playing with my cock and did some sucking and then whispered that she wanted to fuck. I said no money, she said so what. we agreed to a quick CFS. She started giving me a pretty good blow job. Then all went bad.
I kneels in the seat and starts has me move my seat back and lean it back. Then, "OH SHIT IT IS MY CRAZY BOYFRIEND" My mind went oh fuck and my dick went limp. There about 2 feet from my door was a black man acting all pissed off. She jumps up, I start the car and she gets out to starts yelling at him as he walks away. I start pulling away and I see them hug.
Dumbass me!!! Out .40 but still alive and uninjured. Sorry about the length of this, but I wanted you guys to know so you can avoid her or if you do pick her up, some of this might help you.
Sam
It was dark when I picked Amanda up and I didn't get the best look at her face but she was better looking than that picture. Could possibly be her though. One of these days I'm going to get one of those fancy cameras and take a few shots. I've been looking at a Kodak with a good telephoto lens but somehow I always wind up spending my money on something else. Right now the only digital camera I got is the one in my non-mongering cell phone and it stays securely locked and hidden away.
So far I've only once made the mistake of going to the girl's place and that was with Crystal, taking her to the royal. My other dates have been notels. Do you ever wonder what those guys think, they've got to recognize me. Its not like I'm at either place every week but at least once or twice a month. Always figured the motels were safer. Also its easy to clean up when done and most girls will hop in the shower beforehand. Also the distance makes it less likely the girl will decide to run and might make them more agreeable since they don't want to get left in Fairmont. Sometimes I get a room before heading out to the stroll. Since I'm not from the immediate area it gives me a base of operations so to speak. I can cruise for a while, if I strike out I can come back watch some tv and relax, take a shit, whatever, and then head out again later. I've had good luck with this approach and its only a few dollars more.
I would like to find a parking place or two though. Some place out of the way and where I can enjoy a nice slow bj in the cool fall air.
I thought that you fellas would get a chuckle out of this video I found on YouTube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0PbYLuDEQQ
Country Boy #3
09-29-07, 18:33
I thought that you fellas would get a chuckle out of this video I found on YouTube.com
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H0PbYLuDEQQ
Hell I'd pick her up.
I went to CR last weekend. I picked up a cute woman named Chocolate. We started to go the the hotel but I was reluctant because I did not want to use a credit card there (will they take cash only?) Anyway, she did a great bj in the car. She was nice, pleasant, and attentive. She did not rush. Great experience.
The notels in Fairmont don't require a credit card. They'd probably laugh or faint if somebody actually offered to pay with one! I'm not sure if they'd even accept a credit card. They do require a copy of your driver's license which they will make when you fill out the registration card. The registration card asks for your name, street address, and license plate number. There is no way around giving out your personal information unless you want to risk obtaining and using a fake id but then you'd need fake plates too. You pay in cash and if you bring the key back at checkout they'll give you a couple bucks back as the "key deposit".
The notels in Fairmont don't require a credit card. They'd probably laugh or faint if somebody actually offered to pay with one! I'm not sure if they'd even accept a credit card. They do require a copy of your driver's license which they will make when you fill out the registration card. The registration card asks for your name, street address, and license plate number. There is no way around giving out your personal information unless you want to risk obtaining and using a fake id but then you'd need fake plates too. You pay in cash and if you bring the key back at checkout they'll give you a couple bucks back as the "key deposit".At least at the Fairmont notel I frequent, I've been getting away with leaving the license plate line blank. I just fill in name & address and they seem to be satisfied with that.
When they first started asking for drivers licenses, I was taken aback because before that time I had always filled in a fake name and address. So that first time I tried to fill in my real information real sloppy so it couldn't really be read. But what the guy did was ever so slowly copy it down from my license (I learned my lesson). But I've never been asked for my vehicle information.
Over the years this country has been getting tighter and tighter on ID requirements in any number of circumstances. We are becoming more and more like Europe. So a fake id is probably not a bad idea if you really want to keep your mongering tracks covered. But even merely possessing one is probably illegal nowadays. Plus it's one more thing to keep hidden from the spouse.
Does anybody know how long the notel people keep the registration slips and license photocopies?
Luvtheladies
10-01-07, 10:12
At least at the Fairmont notel I frequent, I've been getting away with leaving the license plate line blank. I just fill in name & address and they seem to be satisfied with that.
When they first started asking for drivers licenses, I was taken aback because before that time I had always filled in a fake name and address. So that first time I tried to fill in my real information real sloppy so it couldn't really be read. But what the guy did was ever so slowly copy it down from my license (I learned my lesson). But I've never been asked for my vehicle information.
Over the years this country has been getting tighter and tighter on ID requirements in any number of circumstances. We are becoming more and more like Europe. So a fake id is probably not a bad idea if you really want to keep your mongering tracks covered. But even merely possessing one is probably illegal nowadays. Plus it's one more thing to keep hidden from the spouse.
Does anybody know how long the notel people keep the registration slips and license photocopies?
Good question, TB.
Some of the notels, even as dilapidated as they are, probably even have a security camera or two. I'm sure the chains (Motel 6, etc.) do, although the cameras are probably hidden/disguised.
So, to follow TB's question, wonder how long they keep the security camera tapes?
I have worked in hotels/motels for many years. The only time any registration information is requested by any authorities is when the registered guest is suspected of trafficking drugs. I know that in a hotel registration information must be kept for 5 years, sometimes longer depending on if it's a franchise or chain.
The places that I've worked that had a security system, the tapes were kept for a maximum of 30 days. Again, any authorities that wanted to see security tapes were for reasons other than bringing a "date" to the establishment.
I cruised Collinsville Rd and the area around the wash rack today around 4 pm. Didn't see any street walkers out.
I cruised Collinsville Rd and the area around the wash rack today around 4 pm. Didn't see any street walkers out.The area is dead. During the past two weeks I have seen mostly BSW. The few WSW are not that attractive either. One morning I saw the state LE with a portable truck scale in their attempts to catch overweight trucks. In addition I have seen more than the normal LE cars in the area. I believe the new mayor is serious in his attempts to clean up this area.
Gonzo7,
Who is the new mayor? Maybe we should all pitch in and buy him a date.
The area is dead. During the past two weeks I have seen mostly BSW. The few WSW are not that attractive either. One morning I saw the state LE with a portable truck scale in their attempts to catch overweight trucks. In addition I have seen more than the normal LE cars in the area. I believe the new mayor is serious in his attempts to clean up this area.
Gonzo7,
Who is the new mayor? Maybe we should all pitch in and buy him a date.Not sure but somebody else on this board said they had a new one.
Mister Quick
10-02-07, 11:19
Does anybody know how long the notel people keep the registration slips and license photocopies?
Not sure about down in your area but can relate experiences about a notel in Davenport IA.
The last time I got a room there I saw a cop going through all the registrations and comparing them against some type of list he had. There was no cruiser in the parking lot. I got the room as normal and went there with the girl I had picked up. I had been with her a few times before and felt comfortable with her. Told her about the cop. A few minutes later had a big scare when someone knocked on the door. Feared it might be the cop. It was the hotel clerk who told me I had parked at a weird angle and was taking up parts of two spaces. He wanted me to move my car. Annoying but better than the cop.
Next time I went there a few weeks later I checked in as normal. When the clerk saw 2 on the number of guests I was told he needed to see the ID of the other guest. Never had this happen before. Was with the same girl as last time and she had no ID on her. I went to check. When I retirned and told him this he said he could not rent me the room. I have not gone back there. This place knows the type of business they are getting since they have a porno shop in the lobby and rent regular rooms for3 hours. So folks coming there are either picking up girls like we do and chances are she has no ID. Or else are cheating on spouses so they would not both be wanting to show ID. So this may be a legal requirement.
Hi,
I saw a light skinned BSW there tues around 5:00.
Light colered hair, smoking hot body.
does anyone know anything about her?
I had a friend who worked at a real motel on the interstate. This was not a national chain motel. She said they kept them for five years. She did not know if it was for IRS/accounting, or the Law.
On another note, I remember reading in the St.Louis board a couple years ago a fellow monger reported on seeing registration books in the trash with the persons info, address, ccard reciepts, etc. This so called trash can was in public view, not in the trash dumpster out back. This was reported on the Congress Inn by the airport in St.Louis.
Not sure but somebody else on this board said they had a new one.That would have been me Gonzo7. Alvin Parks Jr. beat Carl Officer by 33 votes earlier this year. Parks often mentioned crime in his speeches which is why I suggested he was making good on his promises.
Time To Dive
10-03-07, 05:51
Picked up a WSW last week while in town on buisness. She looked good from a distance, but once inside only a four or so. Took her to a notel and once the clothes came of the rolls of loose skin came out. She said her name was Pebbbles or something like that. The service was so-so and she never stopped talking. Would not pick her up again if I saw her.
Hi,
I saw a light skinned BSW there tues around 5:00.
Light colered hair, smoking hot body.
does anyone know anything about her?Hard to say from the description you've given who she might be. I know a light skinned BSW named Lala. She is young with a very pretty face, firm thin body, around 20-21 years old. In fact, she is easily the prettiest girl on the stroll but also a bundle of trouble if you're not careful. I have not seen her around lately. Last time I saw her, her hair was not colored light; it was natural.
Alex P Keaton
10-03-07, 17:52
She said her name was Pebbbles or something like that.
A physical description to help others avoid Pebbles (which I agree they should do): white crackhead; short, probably 5'2" or so; shorter, curly brownish-blonde hair; brown eyes; weathered skin, somewhat tanned; used to stay at the "white house"/"Wes's house" until it was condemned.
I went to Roxys about 5:00pm Thursday 10/4/07. Just got in went to the bathroom and when I walked out of the bathroom I was met by Leah, black dancer, with a great body. She started hugging me, rubbing her body against mine, and grabbing me through my pants. Asked me about doing a private, I told her that I just got there and she told me that she would give me a sample private for 20. for one song, I agreed. We went to the back and she started off with a good private for part of a song. Then she told me that she would do 5 songs for 100. and that she would take care of me along with of BS. I told her that the last time I paid for two songs the dancer did one and then left. After much talking she told me that she did not want to get ripped off ether, how did she know that I had the money. So I took a wad of 20.00’s out of my wallet and put them in my shirt pocket. I told her that I would give her 80.00 at the end of 5 songs. I had given her 20 before we went to the back. At this she started talking a lot about doing what ever I wanted, she undid my pants and took my cock out. She then told me that I needed to give her the money and she would suck me off and let me cum in her mouth. At that I had a lot of alarms going off in my brain. I was thinking that I was ether going to get ripped off or given a STD. Nether of these things did I want. I was trying to think of what to say or do, when she reached up and tried to put her hand in my pocket. I blocked her, she stood up shoved me back into the chair and went for the pocket again, and I blocked her. She had her hand in my pocket I had a hold of her hand and she went to kick me in the nuts. I moved one hand to block her and she yanked the wad of money out of my pocket and ran to the back. I got up and did up my pants. I then realized that she had grabbed a wad of ones that I had gotten as change when I entered Roxys. She had missed the 20’s. I started to leave but she got to me before I got out. She told me to give her the rest of her F’n money. I told her that she had stolen all that she was going to get. She then ripped my eyeglasses off of my face cutting the side of my face. She then told me that if I did not give her the f’n money that she would break my glasses. I said nothing I was too mad to talk. She then told me to come on to the back. I said hell no I started walking to the bar. She said that if I did not give her the money that she would call the cops, I said, “GOOD please do” as I walked to the bar. I thought that if I got her to the bar that the bartender or manager would get involved and help me out. We got to the bar and she was still saying that she was going to break my glasses. I looked at the bartender and said can you help me, she said “sorry I can not get involved. The manager was ten feet away and he just looked down at the floor. My glasses cost over 400.00 and I did not want them broken. So I told the dancer that I would give her another 40.00 for my glasses. She said give me the F’n money. I told her that I would hand the money to the bartender and she should hand her my glasses, she agreed. So I handed the bartender 40.00 and she handed it to Leah. Who then told me to give her another twenty for the eyeglasses. I made her give the glasses to the bartender first I then handed the twenty to the bartender and got my glasses. The Asian girl next to the bartender the looked at me and said goodbye and pointed towards the door. I am mad at the dancer and at the PT’s chain because they let this happen.
My Attorney told me that I should take a sworn affidavit to the Illinois state patrol and have charges brought against the dance for Stealing, Assault, and Extortion. Then file charges against the bartender for Extortion. This would also set up a lawsuit against the PT’s chain. I don’t know what I am going to do.
Traveler One
10-05-07, 16:56
I went to Roxys about 5:00pm Thursday 10/4/07. Just got in went to the bathroom and when I walked out of the bathroom I was met by Leah, black dancer, with a great body. She started hugging me, rubbing her body against mine, and grabbing me through my pants. Asked me about doing a private, I told her that I just got there and she told me that she would give me a sample private for 20. for one song, I agreed. We went to the back and she started off with a good private for part of a song. Then she told me that she would do 5 songs for 100. and that she would take care of me along with of BS. I told her that the last time I paid for two songs the dancer did one and then left. After much talking she told me that she did not want to get ripped off ether, how did she know that I had the money. So I took a wad of 20.00’s out of my wallet and put them in my shirt pocket. I told her that I would give her 80.00 at the end of 5 songs. I had given her 20 before we went to the back. At this she started talking a lot about doing what ever I wanted, she undid my pants and took my cock out. She then told me that I needed to give her the money and she would suck me off and let me cum in her mouth. At that I had a lot of alarms going off in my brain. I was thinking that I was ether going to get ripped off or given a STD. Nether of these things did I want. I was trying to think of what to say or do, when she reached up and tried to put her hand in my pocket. I blocked her, she stood up shoved me back into the chair and went for the pocket again, and I blocked her. She had her hand in my pocket I had a hold of her hand and she went to kick me in the nuts. I moved one hand to block her and she yanked the wad of money out of my pocket and ran to the back. I got up and did up my pants. I then realized that she had grabbed a wad of ones that I had gotten as change when I entered Roxys. She had missed the 20’s. I started to leave but she got to me before I got out. She told me to give her the rest of her F’n money. I told her that she had stolen all that she was going to get. She then ripped my eyeglasses off of my face cutting the side of my face. She then told me that if I did not give her the f’n money that she would break my glasses. I said nothing I was too mad to talk. She then told me to come on to the back. I said hell no I started walking to the bar. She said that if I did not give her the money that she would call the cops, I said, “GOOD please do” as I walked to the bar. I thought that if I got her to the bar that the bartender or manager would get involved and help me out. We got to the bar and she was still saying that she was going to break my glasses. I looked at the bartender and said can you help me, she said “sorry I can not get involved. The manager was ten feet away and he just looked down at the floor. My glasses cost over 400.00 and I did not want them broken. So I told the dancer that I would give her another 40.00 for my glasses. She said give me the F’n money. I told her that I would hand the money to the bartender and she should hand her my glasses, she agreed. So I handed the bartender 40.00 and she handed it to Leah. Who then told me to give her another twenty for the eyeglasses. I made her give the glasses to the bartender first I then handed the twenty to the bartender and got my glasses. The Asian girl next to the bartender the looked at me and said goodbye and pointed towards the door. I am mad at the dancer and at the PT’s chain because they let this happen.
My Attorney told me that I should take a sworn affidavit to the Illinois state patrol and have charges brought against the dance for Stealing, Assault, and Extortion. Then file charges against the bartender for Extortion. This would also set up a lawsuit against the PT’s chain. I don’t know what I am going to do.
DO WHAT YOUR ATTORNEY SAID TO DO. SCREW THAT HO AND THE HO SHE SHE RODE IN ON.
Slick Dick
10-06-07, 00:38
I went to Roxys about 5:00pm Thursday 10/4/07. Just got in went to the bathroom and when I walked out of the bathroom I was met by Leah, black dancer, with a great body. She started hugging me, rubbing her body against mine, and grabbing me through my pants. Asked me about doing a private, I told her that I just got there and she told me that she would give me a sample private for 20. for one song, I agreed. We went to the back and she started off with a good private for part of a song. Then she told me that she would do 5 songs for 100. and that she would take care of me along with of BS. I told her that the last time I paid for two songs the dancer did one and then left. After much talking she told me that she did not want to get ripped off ether, how did she know that I had the money. So I took a wad of 20.00’s out of my wallet and put them in my shirt pocket. I told her that I would give her 80.00 at the end of 5 songs. I had given her 20 before we went to the back. At this she started talking a lot about doing what ever I wanted, she undid my pants and took my cock out. She then told me that I needed to give her the money and she would suck me off and let me cum in her mouth. At that I had a lot of alarms going off in my brain. I was thinking that I was ether going to get ripped off or given a STD. Nether of these things did I want. I was trying to think of what to say or do, when she reached up and tried to put her hand in my pocket. I blocked her, she stood up shoved me back into the chair and went for the pocket again, and I blocked her. She had her hand in my pocket I had a hold of her hand and she went to kick me in the nuts. I moved one hand to block her and she yanked the wad of money out of my pocket and ran to the back. I got up and did up my pants. I then realized that she had grabbed a wad of ones that I had gotten as change when I entered Roxys. She had missed the 20’s. I started to leave but she got to me before I got out. She told me to give her the rest of her F’n money. I told her that she had stolen all that she was going to get. She then ripped my eyeglasses off of my face cutting the side of my face. She then told me that if I did not give her the f’n money that she would break my glasses. I said nothing I was too mad to talk. She then told me to come on to the back. I said hell no I started walking to the bar. She said that if I did not give her the money that she would call the cops, I said, “GOOD please do” as I walked to the bar. I thought that if I got her to the bar that the bartender or manager would get involved and help me out. We got to the bar and she was still saying that she was going to break my glasses. I looked at the bartender and said can you help me, she said “sorry I can not get involved. The manager was ten feet away and he just looked down at the floor. My glasses cost over 400.00 and I did not want them broken. So I told the dancer that I would give her another 40.00 for my glasses. She said give me the F’n money. I told her that I would hand the money to the bartender and she should hand her my glasses, she agreed. So I handed the bartender 40.00 and she handed it to Leah. Who then told me to give her another twenty for the eyeglasses. I made her give the glasses to the bartender first I then handed the twenty to the bartender and got my glasses. The Asian girl next to the bartender the looked at me and said goodbye and pointed towards the door. I am mad at the dancer and at the PT’s chain because they let this happen.
My Attorney told me that I should take a sworn affidavit to the Illinois state patrol and have charges brought against the dance for Stealing, Assault, and Extortion. Then file charges against the bartender for Extortion. This would also set up a lawsuit against the PT’s chain. I don’t know what I am going to do.Pursue it, dude. No excuse for that bullshit to happen to you. Maybe that will discourage any more dancers from trying that shit.
I have posted about Kim before. She is a BSW, very thin, wears a wig, not a pretty face. Saw her on CR near Lake the other night. She was with another woman, middle-aged and overweight, not SW material. This other woman was sitting on the curb hitting a crack pipe for all the world to see. So despite the recent crackdown, people are sitting on the main drag smoking crack openly! And these girls wonder why they end up getting arrested sometimes!
Kim recognized me and sprints to my car. Then she tells me to wait while she grabs the pipe from the other woman. Then she wants to get dope. Of course, this is all stuff you should not do with a SW. It's way too risky. But I'm doing it anyway because I know from my past experience with Kim that she becomes a nympho once she's high.
We head to the motel. In the past, she would take a hit and then she would want to fuck and fuck. This time it was a little different. She had me lick her pussy while she took her first hit. Then she starts riding me cowgirl telling me she doesn't want me to cum for a while. Then we're both on our sides and I'm fucking perpendicular to her while she takes another hit. (If there's a name for that position, I don't know what it is.) Then I do her missionary and then it's back to cowgirl and she takes a third hit while riding me. Eventually I came and she was disappointed because I'm not a two-shot guy.
Obviously this is not the kind of date for everyone. I get a kick out of these girls who want a crack high and an orgasm at the same time. There was a girl on the stroll a year or two ago name Jasmine. She was a real bad crack addict and she told me that for her the greatest feeling in the world was having an orgasm while high on crack. I remember watching Jasmine take a hit on her pipe and then masturbate furiously. She did this repeatedly until her rock was gone. Watching that was kind of a turn-on but also pathetic at the same time. Pathetic because she was chasing a euphoria she would never actually be able to reach, but sacrificing everything she has to try to get there.
Back to my date. I drive Kim back to drop her off and she starts giving this bullshit about how on our last date several months ago I paid her less than usual and said I would give her extra the next time. That never happened! In her crack-addled brain she was confusing me with someone else. There's no convincing this b*tch, so we argued the whole way back. I'll be passing on her for a while.
My Attorney told me that I should take a sworn affidavit to the Illinois state patrol and have charges brought against the dance for Stealing, Assault, and Extortion. Then file charges against the bartender for Extortion. This would also set up a lawsuit against the PT’s chain. I don’t know what I am going to do.
Think this over very carefully. So you swear out an affidavit, that's your sworn testimony on what happened. Then what? Maybe, the ISP won't laugh in your face but at most they'll refer it to the Brooklyn PD. A Brooklyn officer might actually take the time and ask some questions about the incident the next time he stops in at Roxy's. He's sure to get this story, "I gave the guy some dances and he refused to pay me!" The bartender, manager, and other dancer will probably all say the same thing. Could it be possible that they thought that was actually the situation when you approached the bar? I think you'd be better off raising a ruckus with the PT's management.
Member #3937
10-06-07, 23:57
Being a former manager of Roxy's I can tell you there is a camera pointed down at the bar. I am sure it was all caught on tape.
Strp Clb Fn
10-07-07, 01:29
Your going to swear out a statement on the Entertainer? Are you sure? How will you start that out? I was negotiating for oral sex with the stripper when she proceeded to rip me off? DOH!
You can't file a report, since it would seem you were breaking the law yourself. Asking for or having any SEX in a club is Illegal! For you, the dancer and the club.
I do not believe this happened. Your lying! How do I know? Had you told any competent attorney what you wrote here, they would have informed you have have no case. As you were culpable to illegal activity yourself.
Second. At Roxys, had you created any disturbance like you describe in the club, you would have been bounced HARD out the door. Club security always sides with and protects the dancer (Who do you think pays them? The dancers share their tips with the DJ, bartender and SECURITY. Its called tipping out.) And had Brooklyn PD become involved, you would have been arrested and booked. Who do you think pays their salary and provides most of the income for the city of Brooklyn? DOH!
I think your lying and have a personal grudge against the young lady in question.
But if you do decide to pursue this, please let us know your court date. I would love to be there when you explain to the court your suing because you got ripped off while participating in prostitution in a strip club! You'll make the judges day when he throws your ass out of jail, idiot!
I went to Roxys about 5:00pm Thursday 10/4/07. Just got in went to the bathroom and when I walked out of the bathroom I was met by Leah, black dancer, with a great body. She started hugging me, rubbing her body against mine, and grabbing me through my pants. Asked me about doing a private, I told her that I just got there and she told me that she would give me a sample private for 20. For one song, I agreed. We went to the back and she started off with a good private for part of a song. Then she told me that she would do 5 songs for 100. And that she would take care of me along with of BS. I told her that the last time I paid for two songs the dancer did one and then left. After much talking she told me that she did not want to get ripped off ether, how did she know that I had the money. So I took a wad of 20. 00’s out of my wallet and put them in my shirt pocket. I told her that I would give her 80. 00 at the end of 5 songs. I had given her 20 before we went to the back. At this she started talking a lot about doing what ever I wanted, she undid my pants and took my cock out. She then told me that I needed to give her the money and she would suck me off and let me cum in her mouth. At that I had a lot of alarms going off in my brain. I was thinking that I was ether going to get ripped off or given a STD.nether of these things did I want. I was trying to think of what to say or do, when she reached up and tried to put her hand in my pocket. I blocked her, she stood up shoved me back into the chair and went for the pocket again, and I blocked her. She had her hand in my pocket I had a hold of her hand and she went to kick me in the nuts. I moved one hand to block her and she yanked the wad of money out of my pocket and ran to the back. I got up and did up my pants. I then realized that she had grabbed a wad of ones that I had gotten as change when I entered Roxys. She had missed the 20’s. I started to leave but she got to me before I got out. She told me to give her the rest of her F’n money. I told her that she had stolen all that she was going to get. She then ripped my eyeglasses off of my face cutting the side of my face. She then told me that if I did not give her the f’n money that she would break my glasses. I said nothing I was too mad to talk. She then told me to come on to the back. I said hell no I started walking to the bar. She said that if I did not give her the money that she would call the cops, I said, "GOOD please do" as I walked to the bar. I thought that if I got her to the bar that the bartender or manager would get involved and help me out. We got to the bar and she was still saying that she was going to break my glasses. I looked at the bartender and said can you help me, she said "sorry I can not get involved. The manager was ten feet away and he just looked down at the floor. My glasses cost over 400. 00 and I did not want them broken. So I told the dancer that I would give her another 40. 00 for my glasses. She said give me the F’n money. I told her that I would hand the money to the bartender and she should hand her my glasses, she agreed. So I handed the bartender 40. 00 and she handed it to Leah. Who then told me to give her another twenty for the eyeglasses. I made her give the glasses to the bartender first I then handed the twenty to the bartender and got my glasses. The Asian girl next to the bartender the looked at me and said goodbye and pointed towards the door. I am mad at the dancer and at the PT’s chain because they let this happen.
My Attorney told me that I should take a sworn affidavit to the Illinois state patrol and have charges brought against the dance for Stealing, Assault, and Extortion. Then file charges against the bartender for Extortion. This would also set up a lawsuit against the PT’s chain. I don’t know what I am going to do.
Strp Clb Fn
10-07-07, 01:32
Your going to swear out a statement on the Entertainer?? Are you sure?? How will you start that out?? I was negotiating for oral sex with the stripper when she proceeded to rip me off?? DOH!!
You can't file a report, since it would seem you were breaking the law yourself. Asking for or having any SEX in a club is Illegal!! For you, the dancer and the club.
I do not believe this happened - your lying!! How do I know?? Had you told any competent attorney what you wrote here, they would have informed you have have no case. As you were culpable to illegal activity yourself.
Second - At Roxys, had you created any disturbance like you describe in the club, you would have been bounced HARD out the door. Club security always sides with and protects the dancer (Who do you think pays them?? The dancers share their tips with the DJ, bartender and SECURITY. Its called tipping out.) And had Brooklyn PD become involved, you would have been arrested and booked. Who do you think pays their salary and provides most of the income for the city of Brooklyn?? DOH!!
I think your lying and have a personal grudge against the young lady in question.
But if you do decide to pursue this, please let us know your court date. I would love to be there when you explain to the court your suing because you got ripped off while participating in prostitution in a strip club!! You'll make the judges day when he throws your ass out of jail, idiot!!
I did not ask for oral sex or any type of sex. I did not take my cock out. The dancer did this. When she told me that she would give me oral sex if I gave her more money, I refused to hand over more money. That is when the first act of assault happened. My expectations were to get five song private for a total of $100.00. The ISP is not found of the job that the Brooklyn police have done and take any opportunity to get involved, if you go to the right officer. You are right I do have a grudge against the dancer because she assaulted me and robed me. If the manager had bounced me I would have more repect for him, but he did nothing. If a fight breaks out is he going to piss his pants and go hide?
Your going to swear out a statement on the Entertainer?? Are you sure?? How will you start that out?? I was negotiating for oral sex with the stripper when she proceeded to rip me off?? DOH!!
You can't file a report, since it would seem you were breaking the law yourself. Asking for or having any SEX in a club is Illegal!! For you, the dancer and the club.
I do not believe this happened - your lying!! How do I know?? Had you told any competent attorney what you wrote here, they would have informed you have have no case. As you were culpable to illegal activity yourself.
Second - At Roxys, had you created any disturbance like you describe in the club, you would have been bounced HARD out the door. Club security always sides with and protects the dancer (Who do you think pays them?? The dancers share their tips with the DJ, bartender and SECURITY. Its called tipping out.) And had Brooklyn PD become involved, you would have been arrested and booked. Who do you think pays their salary and provides most of the income for the city of Brooklyn?? DOH!!
I think your lying and have a personal grudge against the young lady in question.
But if you do decide to pursue this, please let us know your court date. I would love to be there when you explain to the court your suing because you got ripped off while participating in prostitution in a strip club!! You'll make the judges day when he throws your ass out of jail, idiot!!
A few thoughts on BigKC's experience at Roxy's.
I don't think it helps to attack people on the board. Its possible that BigKC talked to his lawyer. Maybe he left out some details such as her offer of "extras" and his sorta passive acceptance. BigKC you let her take your dick out. From his report it sounds like she offerred more than mutual touching and he really wasn't inclined to accept. BigKC said he was worried about STD's. I think perhaps he was just looking for a "good deal" on some dirty dances. From his name we can assume BigKC isn't from the immediate area, so his lawyer probably isn't either. Maybe that's why he suggested contacting the ISP.
Occassionally in the clubs you'll come across some real hustlers who will try and take advantage of you anyway they can. If you have an incident with a dancer its best to remain calm and ask to speak to the manager. If that manager isn't helpful ask for the person above him. BigKC says the guy he thought was the manager just looked down at the floor. A friendly "hey..are you the manager cause we've got a little problem here." Would have drawn him in and if he still refused to do his job and help settle things then ask for his boss.
If you come across polite but firm you're not going to get bounced. If you come across as belligerent or close to blowing up with anger then you probably will. Yes the bouncers and managers tend to back their dancers but not in every situation. Especially if the dancer is new or a known problem they'll tend to listen to complaints.
Some general suggestions.
1.) Unless you absolutely have to, don't wear glasses into the clubs. Personally I think I get more attention from the dancers when I don't wear my glasses into a club. If you have to wear glasses all the time, then don't wear your $400 pair. I'm assuming its the frames that bring the cost up so much? My insurance won't pay $400 for glasses and I'm not paying it out of pocket. I've got two pair of glasses. My regular pair and a backup kept in the car incase mine get broke. I'm much more likely to get mine broke at work than in a club though. Some guys have their regular fancy pair and then a "lets get drunk and stupid pair" also.
2.) Avoid the dancers who try to hustle you right away upon entering the club. By putting up with that you're just reinforcing their bad behavior. Maybe I've missed out on some fun times but if a dancer hits me up as soon as I enter the club I'll automatically turn her down. Sure its nice when the dancers say "hi" or otherwise greet you when you first walk in but if they start trying to sell dances, get you to buy a drink, or offering a deal then its a polite but firm negative response from me.
3.) Be very wary of dancers offering deals. This is especially true if they offer it up right away. That marks them as potential ROB or desperate. Some may think finding a "desperate" dancer is good but no they are trouble in one way or another. If you pick a dancer and get PD's and she gives you a break, lets say she charges you for 4 when you really did 5 then that's great. If she offers you a deal as an enticement to get the PD's then I'd be very wary.
4.) Never pay up front or keep your money where it can be easily snatched. This can be tricky. At the Hollywood Club in WP the rules are the dancer is supposed to collect her money up front. Not many actually do but that's the rule cause Bob R. and management don't want to deal with non-paying customers. I've heard Bob R. tell a dancer "too bad, you should have got your money first!" But most dancers are willing to risk losing a bit of money and collect afterwards. I'm not sure what the actual rules are at the PT's clubs. I've told dancers we could do a couple, I'd pay for those and then we might continue with more.
I do not believe this happened. Your lying!
Big KC,
I believe you. It sounds just exactly like what a thief would pull. I thank you for the warning. I haven't been to ESL area in years but might be sent for work soon. I've been paying attention to this forum for that reason.
This isn't the only negativity I've heard about Roxy's since I started asking around a few weeks ago. And possibly others are right in saying the other girls and management believed the dancer that hassled you. Their mistake, but people can only be fooled for a while. Sadly, this will hurt the club and therefore all the girls until things turn around.
I have to agree I think you should let it go and learn from the experience. Like the saying goes, hope for the best, prepare for the worst. You need to go prepared. I go to different clubs for different reasons. When I used to run ESL I was there to drink, party, and pay for sex with no strings attached. I have a system for these types of clubs. I always park my bike or car so I have a clear exit path and can sprint away full throttle. I wear garage sale or Walmart jeans and T's, I carry my twenties in my back pocket in a clip wrapped in a rubber band so the clip doesn't slide out of the pocket easily, and keep ones in my front pocket. Easy enough for me to get the cash but hard to steal.
I started this after something very similar to what you describe happened to me. Twenty odd years ago I walked into a new place that offered the usual lap and couch dances you see now, but also a small dance floor to use with the girls. I'the never seen this before and asked about it. One took me to that floor and proceded to begin her grind, then her friend came up behind me and started in as well. They were sliding their hands under my shirt, and grabbing my crotch and ass, when I felt a tug on the jeans and turned to find my wallet in the dainty hand of the dancer that was behind me. I grabbed her wrist and she immediately screamed "He's refusing to pay". The bouncer turned to look, and I ripped the wallet from her hand, threw her into the bouncer closest to us, and ran like a sissy for the car. I was peeling out of the lot in reverse when the bouncers came through the door. Thank goodness they didn't have guns, you wonder at some of these places. Obviously that was the last time I ever went there, or pretty much any club in that town. And the last time I pulled in forward when I parked too.
These are just my suggestions. In fairness I very rarely have any trouble in any of these places, but then once is all it takes isn't it? I would also suggest you check into Wal Mart glasses if you party often. They have stuff that looks O. K. For less than $150. Still a lot to lose, but had you walked away from those you would have been out the cost but hopefully after having gotten some use from them and the dancer would still not have any cash in her pocket. It sounds to me like you are now out 60 bucks and change anyway, and the dancer gets to spend it. If she's going to rip you off, let her suffer from crack lack as retribution at least. Plus, if you make a grab for the glasses and they DO get broken, you are still just out the cost of low priced glasses not high dollar stuff.
Bottom line, don't take anything into a club you aren't willing to risk losing, and even your bad experiences won't be so awful. Good luck with whatever you decide.
My expectations were to get five song private for a total of $100.00. The ISP is not found of the job that the Brooklyn police have done and take any opportunity to get involved, if you go to the right officer.
The five for four deal was the trap. Con artists use your own greed against you. You're better off taking your time and finding a good dancer and paying full price for the songs than making a quick deal.
The ISP doesn't care much for the Brooklyn (Brooklyn police have improved over the last few years though) or Washington Park police. But they're aren't going to get involved unless its serious. The ISP knows what goes on in the clubs, they knew about C-Mowes and Chameleon Club but they didn't get involved. They know about and monitor this website, "hi guys!". They are involved in stuff in East St. Louis because they practically have no choice. If they weren't actively engaged in that city things would fall apart worse than they are already. A little spat between a dancer and customer at Roxy's isn't going to be worth their time. Sure they might take your statement, they may even tell you they'll look into it, but its going to be referred to the local Brooklyn police. The Brooklyn police are better and take their job much more seriously than they did ten years ago but there is little they can do either. They can take your statement and perhaps photograph and document your injuries. They can question the dancer, bartender, and manager but unless one of them openly admits to what happens or clearly backs up your story...
Hayley Bop's comment about the camera is informative. But in this case the film footage would be up for interpretation. The dancer could say "yeah i took his glasses cause he wouldn't pay me!....sorry but i just wanted my money." The bartender and manager might actually think that is what happened.
If you feel strongly about it then don't let me dissuade you from pursuing it. My suggestion is contact PT's about the incident.
Jannisary has laid out a lot of very good advice. I seem to always do better when I hang for a few moments to let my eyes adjust to the dark and see who appears to be a trolling shark. My general rule that I adhere too is simple, never show anything more than I care to loose. Plus, I carry in anything I don’t want broken, stolen, lost or held in evidence in any future criminal cases I may be walking into.
No phones, no house keys, no credit cards-debit cards, rings, watches or necklaces. All that stuff you wear to impress the hot soccer-mom at the local dance club gets left in the car. I only take in my driver’s license and cash. Beer money in one pocket, ones to tip for music or table dances, any serious “extras” money in a back pocket being held down by my rear-end.
Some guys are afraid to leave the goods in the car to keep it from being stolen from there. But if you don’t hide your car out-of-site, most clubs have more security on your car then your pocket.
Some good points Two Blue. I also just carry in the basics except for my phone which I'm willing to risk damage to. I also always wear my watch but its just a cheaper Timex and they can literally take a beating.
The parking at Roxy's and PT's which is just across the street is fairly secure. There is parking lot security who watches both clubs. If you park in the lots right in front of the clubs you should be fine. I am always more worried about my car getting scratched or bumped by another vehicle than getting broke into.
Luvtheladies
10-07-07, 21:39
I went to Roxys about 5:00pm Thursday 10/4/07. Just got in went to the bathroom and when I walked out of the bathroom I was met by Leah, black dancer, with a great body....My Attorney told me that I should take a sworn affidavit to the Illinois state patrol and have charges brought against the dance for Stealing, Assault, and Extortion. Then file charges against the bartender for Extortion. This would also set up a lawsuit against the PT’s chain. I don’t know what I am going to do.
Tough deal indeed, Big KC!
Assuming my math is right, you lost $.8 plus got scratched on the face/head by the ROB.
Litigating will easily cost 10 or 20 times as much counting atty fees, lost time, etc. plus epic delays and immeasurable frustration.... for what? Ask your atty what the % of success will be. Prob not good.
If I were in your shoes, I'd forget about it and move on. And never return.
Just my 2 cents.
Regarding the expensive glasses, I'm with Jannisary and Two Blue, all I take is cash, my driver license and a cheap watch.
Good luck!
Knucklebuck
10-08-07, 00:47
Some good points Two Blue. I also just carry in the basics except for my phone which I'm willing to risk damage to. I also always wear my watch but its just a cheaper Timex and they can literally take a beating.
The parking at Roxy's and PT's which is just across the street is fairly secure. There is parking lot security who watches both clubs. If you park in the lots right in front of the clubs you should be fine. I am always more worried about my car getting scratched or bumped by another vehicle than getting broke into.
Man...bad memories. I always took my wallet and had a nice watch on...been very lucky.
Except one time I got into my truck completely toasted and the windshield was shattered as if some fucker sat on my windshield right where the driver would look out. I was so pissed, but so drunk I said fuck it and drove it home.
My next trip over, I asked the manager about security and told him that my windshield had gotten shattered. He said he was sorry and wished I would have informed him so a police report could have been filed....fwiw.
I agree that from now on I will leave the glasses in the car. I also know that the lawsuit would have little chance of success. In all fairness to my attorney he did not recommend the lawsuit part, just setting up a meeting with the ISP. I expect the dancer to try and con me, that is just the way it is. When she assaulted me and took the money, because I was not going to let her con me, that broke the unwritten rules. If I go to the cops with this, that too is breaking one of the unwritten rules in my book. In the old day if this had happened in one of the clubs, I could have taken this to Art, or Art, or Tom, or Steve, or Humpre, or Sly depending on were it was. Now Humpre is at Miss Kittys, Art, Tom, and Steve are dead (God rest their souls) and I do not know what happened to the other Art and Sly. It is true that the bartenders, bouncers, and DJs get their money from the dancers through tip outs and the club gets the fines, but the good club owners know that the money comes from the guys coming in the door. I do not think that they will let one dancer run off business. I will contact PT about this, I use to know Denny O, but the last I heard he was in Denver. If someone has a good contact person please pm me. I will try not to bring this up again, but I did get the board talking. As a last happy thought, I now know of two construction companies that will not be taking their crews to any of PT's Clubs in the future.
Being a former manager of Roxy's I can tell you there is a camera pointed down at the bar. I am sure it was all caught on tape.When were you the manager?
Member #3937
10-09-07, 09:39
I actually managed there from 2001 to 2003 and then went to Kittys and then managed dollies. Thank god I am out of that business.
I actually managed there from 2001 to 2003 and then went to Kittys and then managed dollies. Thank god I am out of that business.Do you remember "Ivy" she quit in early 2001.
Actually my first day was 9-11 .Ouch. Not a really good way to start a new job. I am sure you remember Alexis. She is the asian chick in her panties.
I remembr her, how did you get the pic?I used to see Ivy off and on. They were good friends. What ever happened to Alexis?
Country Boy #3
10-12-07, 23:37
Thursday night I found Crystal near Wes's house. She was wearing a pink coat. She's pretty cute. Mid to late 20's, dirty blond. She started out with a pretty decent BJ for about 3 or 4 minutes, but then started getting a attitude about taking to long. She pissed me off, so I just took her back and kicked her out. Maybe she would be alright for a motel date, but I won't try her again.
Country Boy #3
10-13-07, 00:09
Talk about a complete 180. I drove around little more, determined to find some relief. I saw Jennifer walking north on Exchange, about a block north of were her and Cheese used to live. She was walking with some black guy. She looked pretty rough.
I'm glad I waited. I made a few passes a couple blocks off 9th st. I know this is a horrible place for a white boy to be, but "lack of pussy makes you brave." I saw a couple WSW, but I couldn't get a very good look at them. I made about 4 passes, and stopped to talk to the little blond. A very cute gal. She hoped in, off we went to the no-tel. She said her name is Ashley, and I think she said her real name is Jamie. She's 21, about 5'2", maybe 125 lbs. Just a little pudgy, but good for the pushing. She said she normally gets $.60, but agreed to $.50. We got to the room, and she went to the bathroom. After 5 min. I was starting to get concerned, but she finally came out, and proceeded to get naked. She joined me on the bed, and started in with one of the best BBBJ's I've ever had. She said she loves to do it, and it showes. I had to practically beg her to stop so we could fuck. Once we got to going at it, she started in with the dirty talk. She really showed a lot of enthusiasm. After I shot off, I pulled out and took the condom off. She got down her knees, and sucked me clean. A perfect ending to an awesome session.
With the exception of Glenda, This was my all time best time on the east side. She said she had two phones, but has lost both of them in the last week. She said she usually stays off 9th street. So you might have to check the back streets for her.
Mookie1733
10-14-07, 18:05
Have anybody have any reviews on her good or bad? please advise.
www.scarlettnstlouis.com
Have anybody have any reviews on her good or bad? please advise.
www.scarlettnstlouis.comThere are lots of reviews of her on TER and Escorts.com. All are good. I haven't had the pleasure yet, so am anxious to hear another comment.
Willy Word
10-16-07, 01:39
Talk about a complete 180. I drove around little more, determined to find some relief. I saw Jennifer walking north on Exchange, about a block north of were her and Cheese used to live. She was walking with some black guy. She looked pretty rough.
I'm glad I waited. I made a few passes a couple blocks off 9th st. I know this is a horrible place for a white boy to be, but "lack of pussy makes you brave." I saw a couple WSW, but I couldn't get a very good look at them. I made about 4 passes, and stopped to talk to the little blond. A very cute gal. She hoped in, off we went to the no-tel. She said her name is Ashley, and I think she said her real name is Jamie. She's 21, about 5'2", maybe 125 lbs. Just a little pudgy, but good for the pushing. She said she normally gets $.60, but agreed to $.50. We got to the room, and she went to the bathroom. After 5 min. I was starting to get concerned, but she finally came out, and proceeded to get naked. She joined me on the bed, and started in with one of the best BBBJ's I've ever had. She said she loves to do it, and it showes. I had to practically beg her to stop so we could fuck. Once we got to going at it, she started in with the dirty talk. She really showed a lot of enthusiasm. After I shot off, I pulled out and took the condom off. She got down her knees, and sucked me clean. A perfect ending to an awesome session.
With the exception of Glenda, This was my all time best time on the east side. She said she had two phones, but has lost both of them in the last week. She said she usually stays off 9th street. So you might have to check the back streets for her.Personally I stick to the back streets. I always find different stuff up and down 13th and lynch and lake. These streets never dissapoint. But I will say if you aren't familiar with people back there don't be stopping for anybody thats not a SW who is trying to stop you. Because they definitely will try to flag you down back there and if you don't know the people back there I wouldn't trust anyone if I was you.
Mook,
I saw Scarlett about 2 years ago when she was in Tampa, pictures are accurate, very nice lady, good attitude, aims to please- I would recommend unless her skills or looks have deteriorated in the last 2 years, but based on reviews it seems she still got game
Is Sugar back in town yet? If so, please let us know. Thanks much :-)
Info on any other hotties would be welcome, too.
I know the one on the left, pictured here, to be named Kellie. She is pure scum also.
I picked her up on a side street off of CR. We went to a motel in Fairmont. She went in to take a shower. It was them that I began to have second thoughts. She looked ok with her clothes on, but she resembled a Sharpei dog without them. Since I already had her in the room, I resolved to continue anyway.
She then came out, demanded the money, and began to dry off. We had agreed on $20 for everything that I wanted, including pictures. I gave her the money and took out my camera. She then said, "no pictures". We had already agreed on all of the pictures that I wanted so I took them anyway. I also knew that she was out to rip me off. When they say, "no pictures", I always take as many pictures as possible for identification purposes.
She then began putting on her clothes. I would not let her. Things went downhill from there.
Ultimately, I retrieved my money and she limped away from the frey, much worse for the wear.
Another warning, SHE CARRIED A SWITCHBLADE and was prepared to use it. I still have it in my possesion, after relieving her of it.
This was all more than a year ago.
To add insult to injury, these girls rip off so many people that they can't remember them all. She still comes up to my car everytime that I am in that area. I don't remind her about out time together.
But I don't take her for a rematch either. I might not win the second round. Since I used her knife against her last time, she is likely to have a gun this time. Those aren't so easily wrestled away and used against the assailant.
Be prepared and don't let them rip you off, guys. Anytime that they try, make sure that it costs them much more than they stood to gain.
This is a link to a photo posted by Fred Reed. The girl on the right is Amanda.
http://usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=29983
If you're interested. There are several of which we should all beware. These are the ones in Brooklyn itself.
The first is Kellie. A little chubby, doesn't look like much, but a good solid performer. Very eager to please and open to ANYTHING. She was well worth the $20 that I paid her for more than an hour of full time sucking and fucking.
Next, there is Tara. She gives one of the best BBBJCIM ever. However, don't expect anything resembling a GFE. She will tell you repeatedly, "I'm a hooker, not a girlfriend". And she is an honest woman.
Next, there is this street rat. When I went to take the picture, she put this over her head. Of course, she tried to rip me off. We went to the room and she would do anything, then made a run for the door. I caught her by the foot. Things got really ugly from there, when she fell on her face and more mayhem ensued from there. I haven't seen her our since then, but beware anyway. She's a horrible crack monster and has to get her drugs somehow.
Those are a few that I know from Brooklyn. I'd appreciate updates if anyone has seen any of them lately.
Lotsoffun201
10-20-07, 20:50
Yep....that is definitely a Sharpei!!!!
Stormrider
10-20-07, 21:32
Yep....that is definitely a Sharpei!!!!
Dude, that it is classic! She does appear to have lost a lot of weight in a hurry. Crack will do that.
Alex P Keaton
10-21-07, 15:12
Is Sugar back in town yet?
It is my understanding that not only is she not in town, she is pregnant.
Member #3213
10-21-07, 15:24
Is anyone in the know on the VIP Spa being closed? I'm thinking of heading that way in a couple days.
Also, I spent some time with Rachel at Hollywood Showclub the other day in mid-afternoon. $125 and 5 private dances later, I still did not have the happy ending she promised. YMMV. She is a young blonde with nice, natural tits, and braces.
KC Questor
10-21-07, 18:23
I know the one on the left, pictured here, to be named Kellie. She is pure scum also.
I picked up Kelly a couple of months ago. She didn't try to rip me off at all, but it was a bad experience nonetheless. After we got back to the room she told me that she had gained and lost 200 pounds and had a lot of loose skin. She wouldn't get undressed. After seeing those photos I am glad.
She refused to take a shower, although she did take a washcloth and washed her legs and feet. She had been walking in flip-flops and when she was done the washcloth was BLACK. Totally gross.
She's pretty much the reason I've stayed away from SWs for a while. She actually looked pretty good by the road and in the car.
It is my understanding that not only is she not in town, she is pregnant.
Does she know who the father is?
Sometimes I worry that prostitutes accidentally get pregnant by clients and don't even know who the father is. I don't know if that's common or not.
I picked up Kelly a couple of months ago. She didn't try to rip me off at all, but it was a bad experience nonetheless. After we got back to the room she told me that she had gained and lost 200 pounds and had a lot of loose skin. She wouldn't get undressed. After seeing those photos I am glad.
She refused to take a shower, although she did take a washcloth and washed her legs and feet. She had been walking in flip-flops and when she was done the washcloth was BLACK. Totally gross.
She's pretty much the reason I've stayed away from SWs for a while. She actually looked pretty good by the road and in the car.
Her face is not bad and I too would have picked her up. Now that the weather will be getting colder, it's going to be harder to know what that body looks like with all those clothes on. Unless you know the SW, it will be like rolling dice.
I just hope I don't get a Sharpei on my next roll.
Does she know who the father is?
Sometimes I worry that prostitutes accidentally get pregnant by clients and don't even know who the father is. I don't know if that's common or not.
Its more likely they get pregnant from their "boyfriends" - pimps -who refuse to wear condoms.
Kellie was MUCH better than this one that I picked up a couple of years ago. When I saw her, it was winter and she had on a heavy parka type coat. The hood was pulled up around her face so that little was showing but the eyes. She looked cute and young.
When we got to the room and she took off the coat, she was skeletal, as you see. Instead of being cute and young, she was ugly and old. And, she had this horrible road rash on her face. I examined it to make sure that it wasn't an infection. It was merely from friction.
To top it all off, she began demanding, 'her', money, and ordering me to take off my clothes. Both are a sure sign that she intends to get the money and run. She was all of 5' and 80 pounds. And she really thought that she was going to tell ME what to do. Some of you guys must be letting her do it, though, or she wouldn't be trying it. I quickly, and surely, established who was in charge. And she, angrily, but meakly, succumbed to my leadership.
I didn't, at all, want her after all of that. But, I was there and had already paid for the room. And it was so cold that very few women of the evening were plying their wares at that time. And I had an itch that needed to be scratched. So I went on and let her give me a blowjob. I couldn't bring myself to actually fuck her. When you see the pics, you will know why she disgusted me.
It really is a crap shoot, a lot of the time. It would be easier to always get familiar ones. But they don't usually stay around that long. And when they do, they turn bad. Stay tuned for my next post of a personal favorite of mine by the name of Red/Crystal.
Her face is not bad and I too would have picked her up. Now that the weather will be getting colder, it's going to be harder to know what that body looks like with all those clothes on. Unless you know the SW, it will be like rolling dice.
I just hope I don't get a Sharpei on my next roll.
Crystal/Red was one of my favorites for about 3 years. She would disappear for awhile, then she would be right back out again a month or so later. I have an attraction for red hair, and hers was naturally red. She calls herself Red, but she has a tattoo that says, "Crystal and Gilbert". She also has one that says. "Gilbert, Jr".
She would give a fairly good blowjob, and she fucked with gusto. To me, she was a nearly perfect *****. Of course, her speech would be unintelligible most of the time, she mumbled in a rapid fire manner. But she was a *****. She didn't have anything to say that I wanted to hear anyway. We established a fee of $20 for everything that I wanted, when we saw each other for the first time, and that was that. She didn't even bother to collect her money in advance because she knew that I would pay her without a problem. And I always had a 10 pack of Twix bars in the car, to give to her when I saw her. Those were her favorite.
Until, one night. I hadn't seen her for some months prior. I saw her and she came to the car. But, instead of getting in, she stood at the window and told me that we couldn't go to our usual place in Fairmont City. I queried her as to why, but she was very vague. I wouldn't have thought much of any of this, but I could understand what she was saying. She wasn't stoned out of her mind, like usual.
We ended up going to a place that we knew in Downtown E. St. Louis. When we got there, she ask for her money. Again, unusual, but after several years, I trusted her. She got the money and went into the bathroom with it. This is very suspect behavior.
When she came out, I was waiting for her, with my clothes on. This surprised her and she began prancing around the room. I was right on her. She was trying to get an opening to break for the door. I never gave her such. I then convinced her to remove her clothing. Something of a struggle ensued. But she ended up without a stitch on. We went to the bed, and she jumped up and ran for the door. I got up and closed it behind her.
I casually put my clothes on and gathered up the tatters of hers. Shortly, she came back to the door, knocking and begging me to let her in. After some time, I let her back in. She then had the nerve to start screaming and ordering me around. I convinced her she was exhibiting the wrong behaviors.
Finally, she succumbed and gave me a most enjoyable time.
A few weeks later, I saw her again. She ran up to the car and apologized for the last time. Again, she said that she could not go to Farimont City because there was an arrest warrant out for her there.
We went back to the same fleabag place. When we got to the room, she began doing everything to stall. Again, I had to convince her to get down to business. She did, but, in the middle of things, jumped up and ran from the room, naked, again.
Shortly, a little, timid, man came to the door, stating that he was a friend of hers who happened to be staying there at the time with his wife. My best guess is that he was another one of her johns who happened to be there.
Anyway, he ask for her clothes. I told him that, if she wanted her clothes, she could come back, finish with me, then take them. And she would get her pay, which I had not yet given her.
When I said that, I heard her say, "oh shit". She had forgotten to get the money before she stormed out. Of course, she wouldn't come back. I waited a few minutes, then gathered her clothes and left with them.
I have seen her around a few times since then. But, strangely, she doesn't come running up to my car like before. And, she tells anyone else that is with her that I am bad. This is a good thing. If they're hanging with her, they're no eartly good. By telling them not to go with me, she is saving me some trouble.
Don't get comfortable with any of them, especially the regulars. They will all change eventually. And there's no telling when it will happen. I found out later that she really was wanted in Fairmont City. She had rolled guys at all of the hotels there. She would get them to undress, then run out with their clothes, and wallets. She would then make her exit in their cars.
The police wouldn't have done much, but the hotels themselves wanted to deal with her. They don't like have those things happen to their customers and they have their own way of dealing with repeat situations like hers. She was definitely right to be afraid for her life.
I found out when I went the with someone else, and the desk guy, whom I knew from seeing him all the time, ask me about her. He remembered that I came with her pretty regularly. He told me what she had done. All of those hotels are owned by the same family, and they talk at dinner. That's how they knew that she had done the same thing at all of the hotels. They resolved to find her.
I sent them all of the pictures of her that I had (they filled 2 CD's), and some old contact information that I knew to no longer be accurate, but it was someplace for the to start anyway.
Here she is, in all of her glory.
You are taking and posting great pictures, for which we are all grateful. Good job, keep up the good work.
But now the wet blanket part. The last set of pictures clearly show a serious outbreak of oral herpes on your provider:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=46689
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=46690
Remember that herpes is an incurable STD which can be spread by oral sex. So while we USUALLY do not wear a cover for oral sex, if the provider shows "herpetic lesions" (cold sores, fever blisters, what ever you want to call them), I would avoid contact, or at the least, use a cover.
Herpes I, usually associated with the oral cavity, CAN be spread to the genitals. Likewise, herpes II, usually genital, CAN infect the mouth. And once you have herpes, it is the gift that keeps on giving. You got it for the rest of your life. If there is good news, the first outbreak you have is usually the worst...
Giani
The Old Sarge
10-22-07, 11:52
I would avoid contact, or at the least, use a cover.
A cover will provide no protection in that lady's case. Herpes is spread by physical contact, period. It just so happens to thrive the longest in warm, moist parts of the body.
The best treatment, along with drugs, is cleanliness and baby powder.
When In Vegas
10-22-07, 14:33
He said he picked her up a few years ago. He would know by now. Plus he said he checked and it was scratches and not an infection.
But now the wet blanket part. The last set of pictures clearly show a serious outbreak of oral herpes on your provider:
Giani
A cover will provide no protection in that lady's case. Herpes is spread by physical contact, period. It just so happens to thrive the longest in warm, moist parts of the body.
The best treatment, along with drugs, is cleanliness and baby powder.
I would not touch her with obvious sores like that. Be safe.
Lust Full,
I recognized the little lady in pictures DSCF2355, DSC2341, etc. I met her about three years ago. She claimed to be mid thirties at the time. I saw her many times and always got good service from her. I have seen her look much better. I guess you met her when she was having a bad week. I was wondering what happened to her. She hasn't been on the streets for a long time.
Why did you wait so long to post your Brooklyn pictures!
Kellie was MUCH better than this one that I picked up a couple of years ago. When I saw her, it was winter and she had on a heavy parka type coat. The hood was pulled up around her face so that little was showing but the eyes. She looked cute and young.
When we got to the room and she took off the coat, she was skeletal, as you see. Instead of being cute and young, she was ugly and old. And, she had this horrible road rash on her face. I examined it to make sure that it wasn't an infection. It was merely from friction.
To top it all off, she began demanding, 'her', money, and ordering me to take off my clothes. Both are a sure sign that she intends to get the money and run. She was all of 5' and 80 pounds. And she really thought that she was going to tell ME what to do. Some of you guys must be letting her do it, though, or she wouldn't be trying it. I quickly, and surely, established who was in charge. And she, angrily, but meakly, succumbed to my leadership.
I didn't, at all, want her after all of that. But, I was there and had already paid for the room. And it was so cold that very few women of the evening were plying their wares at that time. And I had an itch that needed to be scratched. So I went on and let her give me a blowjob. I couldn't bring myself to actually fuck her. When you see the pics, you will know why she disgusted me.
It really is a crap shoot, a lot of the time. It would be easier to always get familiar ones. But they don't usually stay around that long. And when they do, they turn bad. Stay tuned for my next post of a personal favorite of mine by the name of Red/Crystal.
Thanks Gian. But I examined her carefully and closely. It was simply road rash. And abrasion. And it was hard and dry. There was no puss or discharge of any kind.
I was quite leary when I saw it too. And I did take something of a chance by having anything to do with it at all. But it seems to be worth it. I haven't died, yet.
Yur advice is very good for those who aren't sure.
You are taking and posting great pictures, for which we are all grateful. Good job, keep up the good work.
But now the wet blanket part. The last set of pictures clearly show a serious outbreak of oral herpes on your provider:
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=46689
http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=46690
Remember that herpes is an incurable STD which can be spread by oral sex. So while we USUALLY do not wear a cover for oral sex, if the provider shows "herpetic lesions" (cold sores, fever blisters, what ever you want to call them), I would avoid contact, or at the least, use a cover.
Herpes I, usually associated with the oral cavity, CAN be spread to the genitals. Likewise, herpes II, usually genital, CAN infect the mouth. And once you have herpes, it is the gift that keeps on giving. You got it for the rest of your life. If there is good news, the first outbreak you have is usually the worst...
Giani
I am new to this board, Henis. That is why I have never posted this intel before. But reading what was here, and wanting to share, I am giving what I have now.
Some of my pics are new, some are quite aged. However, this one is still out, from time to time. And she looks really bad now, unless she is hidden by clothes, which she was when I got her.
I'm glad to hear that your experience with her was better than mine.
Good luck!
Lust Full,
I recognized the little lady in pictures DSCF2355, DSC2341, etc. I met her about three years ago. She claimed to be mid thirties at the time. I saw her many times and always got good service from her. I have seen her look much better. I guess you met her when she was having a bad week. I was wondering what happened to her. She hasn't been on the streets for a long time.
Why did you wait so long to post your Brooklyn pictures!
Does anyone know what ever happened to Tracy? She's mixed, seemed to be mid-twenties, pregnant quite a bit of the time, had seen her for years then she disappeared in the last six months. Just wondering if anyone knew anything?
Did the usual east side cruise yesterday and all was dead last night. Washington Park, Collinsville Rd, Exchange, the rack, all dead and dry. Finally get into Brooklyn and see Tara in front of Roxy's. She hopped in and I got the usual highway BBBJCIM. That's her specialty. Other than that, it was an incredibly dry run on the east side.
Was out doing recon and saw a sign on the building that said "Now Open". Later on I was told that it opened back up Friday. Also saw a neon sign in the window of the Decreet Motel that said open, but I don't know if it is open or not.
I have not been to the Decreet Motel and only been to the Royal Inn once and really don't plan on going back. Just wanted to pass the info on.
Was out doing recon today. Started on STL side of the river first and now on to E. STL. Headed up Collinsville Rd and saw a thin wsw by the truck repair building right after Lake Ave. There were just too many people hanging out at the building on the other side of the street for me to stop. The sw had red hair that was kind of wild and blue jeans. I saw her from the back.
After making a big loop around the area, made my way to MLK to State St. Thought I saw a sw, but didn't get the look and she looked too young also. On my pass back, was a blond bsw with white jacket and jeans that looked good on her. Didn't really get the look, but you kinda know. Little head said it's time to drop the recon and start the hunt. So, I made a U and this time I got a look but was not sure if I should stop on the next u turn. She looked good and all, much better than what I usually see out. Passed her again and pulled down side street and and she came up and hopped in.
She say her name was Jennifer. Found a parking stop. She started talking about being hot and that she had on long johns under her clothes. I started thing, is this a good looking dude. So before we started, I said can I feel your pu$$y. Said sure and pulled down her pants and I got a good feel of that pu$$y. Then she asked me if is was checking to see if she was a guy. I said sure was.
I just got a bj, but it sure was some of the best I have had in a long time. She took her time with nice long strokes.
I was on States St. and saw her between Washington PL and Veronica Ave.
I didn't expect to find anythig worth picking up because it has been kinda dry out.
Checked out Collinsville Rd again and saw a bsw near Winstanley Ave. She gave me a big smile as I went by. She had a nice looking face and was large. Didn't look like she works the street everyday. I think she was out to make a few bucks.
If anyone knows where Rachel, formerly of Chameleon's, is now working, please let us know. Sugar, the streetwalker, is gone, but I hope Rachel is still dancing somewhere.
Taco Hunter
10-31-07, 10:59
Picked up a older Red head long straight hair that goes by Jennifer also (like we need another to confuse the issue) got a very nice long slow BBBJTCIM claims she used to work as a bartender and dancer at dollies must have danced a while back as she looks to be late 30's to earle 40's but had a preety good body for that age also claims to be down there staying with "FRIENDS" along with a dancer from dollies I picked her up crossing over the highway on Exchange tuesday early evening
I have seen at least four girls in the area calling themselves Jennifer.
Picked up a older Red head long straight hair that goes by Jennifer also (like we need another to confuse the issue) got a very nice long slow BBBJTCIM claims she used to work as a bartender and dancer at dollies must have danced a while back as she looks to be late 30's to earle 40's but had a preety good body for that age also claims to be down there staying with "FRIENDS" along with a dancer from dollies I picked her up crossing over the highway on Exchange tuesday early evening
Got a BBBJ from the girl Lust Full calls Tara today. Gave me the name of "Italy", and Lust Full was right on when he stated she gave a great BBBJCIM. Shes good at what she does. She was walking right down route 3 just North of Brooklyn.
I picked up a cute girl on Exchange. She was in her 30s. Got a great bj. She said she was an ex-dancer from Tennessee.
When I dropped her off on Exchange by the tracks, there were several guys lurking around behind the trees. What is up with that? I would not stop to pickup anyone there if the guys are there. Anyone know what is going or had any trouble there?
Small little sleepy town near St. Louis sure does have smoe action.
I'm just a Monger from Michigan, but I found your forum and wanted to check it out.
Keep up the good work.
Happy hunting gents.
Last week I picked up a wsw that said her name was Crystal. Blond shoulder length hair with blue jeans and a white coat on and about 5'6 115 lbs. I picked her up on CR and headed for a spot. She started asking all kinds of questions, "What kind of work do you do?", "Where do you live?". Then she starts saying that she is a escort and this and that and a bj would be 50. I said 20, then she comes back with 30. I come back with 25 and she said she need more than that. I made a U-turn and dropped her off where I picked her up.
I dropped her off because I felt that at this point the bj was not going to be good anyway. Maybe I will try her another time.
On the side streets off CR I saw a thin bsw with a hooded jacket on. I asked what her name was and she say Pooh, kind of like "winnie the pooh" I guess. Saw another sw out but not closeup. I didn't pick up anyone else, but there was a little action out.
Has anyone her of a bsw name Pooh?
I found this story in the Belleville News Democrat today. I deleted the name because the guy is just another monger like us. Sounds like there is a stroll in Granite City that we don't know about.
Supreme Court candidate's son arrested in prostitution sting
BY BRIAN BRUEGGEMANN
News-Democrat
The son of a candidate who ran for the Illinois Supreme Court has been arrested on a charge of soliciting a prostitute.
Xxxxxx Xxxxxxx Xxxxx, 32, of Highland, was arrested Friday during a sting operation conducted by Granite City Police.
Xxxxxx Xxxxx, an attorney, is the son of Xxxxxx Xxxx, a Democrat who ran in 2004 for a seat on the Illinois Supreme Court. The race between Xxxxxx Xxxx and Republican Lloyd Karmeier set a national record by attracting more than $9 million in campaign spending.
For more on this story, read the News-Democrat on Wednesday or visit www.bnd.com.
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