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SaintChuck
03-29-20, 14:27
Clear your in box. Rocket Dork.I cleared my inbox. SaintChuck.

Rocket Dork
03-29-20, 16:07
Clear your in box. Thanks Rocket Dork.

ReadyForRub
03-29-20, 16:23
I will wait and see what happens, unfortunately I think that you are 100% correct. If these girls end up missing a month of work, they are going to want us to make up for it. I am sorry that they are missing work, but there is no way in hell that I am going to start paying Sixty or Seventy bucks for a HJ. If all of the Mongers hold their ground and say no, maybe some of the ladies will expand the menu in order to make up for lost wages. I know that this is just a dream and when the AMP's finally open up again it will probably cost $100 for a HJ and that is the sad reality. SaintChuck.When the C-note for a HJ job is universally refused, reality will set in. They will leave the business, or the basic rules of economics will prevail. Buyers can determine pricing.

Devlin
03-29-20, 17:33
When the C-note for a HJ job is universally refused, reality will set in. They will leave the business, or the basic rules of economics will prevail. Buyers can determine pricing.

Right On!

As it is,we have some hobbyists over paying just to touch some decent gal's ass while self-serving.

Please do us working guys a favor, stay home and whack off to porn.

Reality - This week, I received quite a few texts from Providers looking for business.

ZzTopSterZz
03-30-20, 07:54
A Chicago area public health doctor indicated oral sex does not violate the idea of social distancing. Her opinion said it was a good way to eliminate the possibility of swapping spit, and it helps to keep faces from coming in contact with each other.That recommendation is for monogamous (haha spellcheck tried to make that monotonous!) couples who still want to limit potential transfer, which is virtually guaranteed with kissing and other face to face contact. Just being in the same room with a new girl increases your risk, and the more people you are around the more likely you are to get it and then to spread it. I guess everything is relative but I'm not taking any chances until this virus goes away.

ReadyForRub
03-30-20, 15:38
That recommendation is for monogamous (haha spellcheck tried to make that monotonous!) couples who still want to limit potential transfer, which is virtually guaranteed with kissing and other face to face contact. Just being in the same room with a new girl increases your risk, and the more people you are around the more likely you are to get it and then to spread it. I guess everything is relative but I'm not taking any chances until this virus goes away.But there was no reference to monogamy in the advise.

Rocket Dork
03-30-20, 20:17
Tried to contact 3 guys who sent me a message, all their inboxes were full. Please clear inboxes. Thanks Rocket Dork.

Sam Spade
04-16-20, 22:25
The good news. I just saw a report. Tucker Carlson interviewing a doctor, professor of medicine and Stanford. The doctor is saying that as the data comes in, it appears that a whole lot more people were infected with the coronavirus, as the antibodies in their bloodwork shows, but were asymptomatic the entire time. Based on this, the probably death rate is going to be more like 1 / 1000, a tenth of a percent, and not the 4 to 6 percent we've been hearing about.

The bad news. The good doctor says we don't have a vaccine and won't for some time. So if you are in an At Risk group, maybe you want to still practice your social distancing.

I'd love to try and convince myself that my almost 60 year old ass is not at risk, since I don't smoke, take care of myself, and was healthy all winter. On the other hand, I had a flu shot in October.

DirtyCopper
04-26-20, 19:14
She used to work out of Springfield area then moved to the Peoria and Bloomington area.

https://www.missinginillinois.org/post/haley-marie-decker-18-january-20-2020-normal-mclean-county-illinois

Avg Joe
04-27-20, 21:17
The good news. I just saw a report. Tucker Carlson interviewing a doctor, professor of medicine and Stanford. The doctor is saying that as the data comes in, it appears that a whole lot more people were infected with the coronavirus, as the antibodies in their bloodwork shows, but were asymptomatic the entire time. Based on this, the probably death rate is going to be more like 1 / 1000, a tenth of a percent, and not the 4 to 6 percent we've been hearing about.

The bad news. The good doctor says we don't have a vaccine and won't for some time. So if you are in an At Risk group, maybe you want to still practice your social distancing.

I'd love to try and convince myself that my almost 60 year old ass is not at risk, since I don't smoke, take care of myself, and was healthy all winter. On the other hand, I had a flu shot in October.March 10 - April 15 40,000 people died from Covid. According to the CDC, as of today there are approx 1 million cases with 56,000 deaths which is 5.6%. That's not a political statement from either side but rather a mathmetical fact and it's all I need to know to stay away from this hobby until this all settles down.

ReadyForRub
04-28-20, 17:04
March 10 - April 15 40,000 people died from Covid. According to the CDC, as of today there are approx 1 million cases with 56,000 deaths which is 5.6%. That's not a political statement from either side but rather a mathmetical fact and it's all I need to know to stay away from this hobby until this all settles down.Reported cases are being found to be dramatically smaller than actual cases, thus the inflation in your numbers. Use better ones.

Avg Joe
04-28-20, 19:14
Reported cases are being found to be dramatically smaller than actual cases, thus the inflation in your numbers. Use better ones.Those are numbers from Fox, CNN, CDC, CNBC, the White House and almost every reporting agency. I didn't make it up so why don't you look it up yourself.

On the CDC website today, as of April 28th, recorded are 981,246 cases and 55,258 deaths which equates out to 5. 5%.

So how many actual cases are there and where do you get your info?

GMan25
04-29-20, 00:46
Those are numbers from Fox, CNN, CDC, CNBC, the White House and almost every reporting agency. I didn't make it up so why don't you look it up yourself.

On the CDC website today, as of April 28th, recorded are 981,246 cases and 55,258 deaths which equates out to 5. 5%.

So how many actual cases are there and where do you get your info?First of all 25% (some say 50% have it and don't know it) of people with a positive test do not develop symptoms. What that means, many have been exposed, but had no need to get tested be / c they never felt sick. Which means the percentage of people with the virus is probably much greater. Those that were tested and had zero symptoms were tested because they were in close proximity with someone that got sick and tested positive.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-with-covid19-not-aware-have-virus

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-to-know-about-controversial-study-finding-85-of-people-with-covid-dont-have-symptoms#Study-findings-and-concerns-from-statisticiansIt has also been documented and reported on, many deaths were automatically being coded as covid-19. (because the reimbursement rates were greater ie:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/yes-hospitals-get-paid-more-for-coronavirus-coded-patients-even-if-they-havent-been-tested

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829506542/after-deaths-at-home-in-nyc-officials-plan-to-count-many-as-covid-19

Lastly, if you look at the death totals and the demographics, almost all deaths were elderly and / or people with existing medical conditions. Very few, a statistically insignificant number have been young and relatively healthy, but obviously the death was significant to the victim and their family. I think we will all get exposed eventually. Social distancing just drags out the inevitable. Social distancing was implemented as a way to avoid hospitals from getting overwhelmed, not a means to keep people from catching the virus. Slow the spread, but you can't stop it.

Avg Joe
04-29-20, 14:56
First of all 25% (some say 50% have it and don't know it) of people with a positive test do not develop symptoms. What that means, many have been exposed, but had no need to get tested be / c they never felt sick. Which means the percentage of people with the virus is probably much greater. Those that were tested and had zero symptoms were tested because they were in close proximity with someone that got sick and tested positive.

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/50-percent-of-people-with-covid19-not-aware-have-virus

https://www.healthline.com/health-news/what-to-know-about-controversial-study-finding-85-of-people-with-covid-dont-have-symptoms#Study-findings-and-concerns-from-statisticiansIt has also been documented and reported on, many deaths were automatically being coded as covid-19. (because the reimbursement rates were greater ie:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/yes-hospitals-get-paid-more-for-coronavirus-coded-patients-even-if-they-havent-been-tested

https://www.npr.org/sections/coronavirus-live-updates/2020/04/08/829506542/after-deaths-at-home-in-nyc-officials-plan-to-count-many-as-covid-19

Lastly, if you look at the death totals and the demographics, almost all deaths were elderly and / or people with existing medical conditions. Very few, a statistically insignificant number have been young and relatively healthy, but obviously the death was significant to the victim and their family. I think we will all get exposed eventually. Social distancing just drags out the inevitable. Social distancing was implemented as a way to avoid hospitals from getting overwhelmed, not a means to keep people from catching the virus. Slow the spread, but you can't stop it.I'm not an expert on Covid 19 or the reporting like some on here. All I was saying is that considering the number of cases, it's enough to keep me away from this until everything settles down. And, that's all I was saying.

To that point, it's interesting that the 3 AMP girls I see outside of their shops are now considering other careers out of fear of returning too soon. And, from what they say, several of their MP friends are considering the same. Can't wait for all this to be over so we can get back to business as usual.

Rocket Dork
04-29-20, 15:16
I'm not an expert on Covid 19 or the reporting like some on here. All I was saying is that considering the number of cases, it's enough to keep me away from this until everything settles down. And, that's all I was saying.

To that point, it's interesting that the 3 AMP girls I see outside of their shops are now considering other careers out of fear of returning too soon. And, from what they say, several of their MP friends are considering the same. Can't wait for all this to be over so we can get back to business as usual.I'm out til I feel safe. I have 3 lined up for after everything settles down. Rocket Dork.

Avg Joe
04-29-20, 19:26
I'm out til I feel safe. I have 3 lined up for after everything settles down. Rocket Dork.Good choice my friend.

ReadyForRub
04-29-20, 22:20
I'm not an expert on Covid 19 or the reporting like some on here. All I was saying is that considering the number of cases, it's enough to keep me away from this until everything settles down. And, that's all I was saying.

To that point, it's interesting that the 3 AMP girls I see outside of their shops are now considering other careers out of fear of returning too soon. And, from what they say, several of their MP friends are considering the same. Can't wait for all this to be over so we can get back to business as usual.What others are being considered so we can BOLO for future opportunities.

SaintChuck
04-30-20, 16:05
I'm out til I feel safe. I have 3 lined up for after everything settles down. Rocket Dork.If you don't mind sharing the info on the Asian woman, I will go see her next week. SaintChuck.

Avg Joe
04-30-20, 20:13
If you don't mind sharing the info on the Asian woman, I will go see her next week. SaintChuck.Sent you both a PM.

PussyPoker
05-04-20, 00:11
Has anyone else noticed an add between every two or three post? It is on every forum I look into.

Plus I can not PM anyone. Any info would help.

Thanks.

PP.

HanginBalls
05-12-20, 20:46
I'm not an expert on Covid 19 or the reporting like some on here. All I was saying is that considering the number of cases, it's enough to keep me away from this until everything settles down. And, that's all I was saying.

To that point, it's interesting that the 3 AMP girls I see outside of their shops are now considering other careers out of fear of returning too soon. And, from what they say, several of their MP friends are considering the same. Can't wait for all this to be over so we can get back to business as usual.Careers can these ladies be contemplating?

SaintChuck
05-13-20, 12:51
Careers can these ladies be contemplating?I hate to say it, but the AMP scene is going to be even shittier than it was before, when the AMP's do re-open. I have talked to 2 girls that will not return to AMP work, they will go to work at nail salons. I talked to a woman yesterday and her boss plans re-open on June 1. This woman said that she absolutely won't return on June 1 and that the earliest she would go back would be September. The AMP scene might be slim pickings when they finally re-open. SaintChuck.

Rocket Dork
05-13-20, 16:13
Got a private message from a monger who has one post from 2005. He wanted some information. Should I give it to him? LOL Rocket Dork.

FranklySports
05-13-20, 22:28
I hate to say it, but the AMP scene is going to be even shittier than it was before, when the AMP's do re-open. I have talked to 2 girls that will not return to AMP work, they will go to work at nail salons. I talked to a woman yesterday and her boss plans re-open on June 1. This woman said that she absolutely won't return on June 1 and that the earliest she would go back would be September. The AMP scene might be slim pickings when they finally re-open. SaintChuck.I hope that you are wrong sir. I stopped in at a shop in the KC K area (area still under lock down) I was greeted by 2 new ladies that were younger and cuter than the ones there in March. They weren't by any stretch of the imagination young spinners, probably a 7 on most scales. I was given good service at an expected price. My point is that the gals may change or move but I think there are others that will ready and willing to step up.

Avg Joe
05-13-20, 22:42
Got a private message from a monger who has one post from 2005. He wanted some information. Should I give it to him? LOL Rocket Dork.I got a message today from a "regular" member but can't find any posts associated with the name. I'm not even answering and I wouldn't either if I were you. Interesting that 2 members with high post counts get messages asking for info at almost the same time from members with almost zero history going back several years. Very strange.

TJGeek
05-13-20, 22:45
I got a message today from a "regular" member but can't find any posts associated with the name. I'm not even answering and I wouldn't either if I were you. Interesting that 2 members with high post counts get messages asking for info at almost the same time from members with almost zero history going back several years. Very strange.Can either of you give more details on what was being asked?

Avg Joe
05-13-20, 22:53
I hate to say it, but the AMP scene is going to be even shittier than it was before, when the AMP's do re-open. I have talked to 2 girls that will not return to AMP work, they will go to work at nail salons. I talked to a woman yesterday and her boss plans re-open on June 1. This woman said that she absolutely won't return on June 1 and that the earliest she would go back would be September. The AMP scene might be slim pickings when they finally re-open. SaintChuck.One girl I know has now gone into real estate and already has 1 listing. The other is going to work for a bank as a teller starting 6/1.

Another one I know says her boss who owns 3 shops is contemplating a $10-20 per hour increase for a full hour. Her thinking is that the demand will be so great that raising prices will have little effect on the business. And, she is probably right.

Wenger
05-14-20, 06:49
Another one I know says her boss who owns 3 shops is contemplating a $10-20 per hour increase for a full hour. Her thinking is that the demand will be so great that raising prices will have little effect on the business. And, she is probably right.Chinese shops will probably go to Korean rates, Korean shops to Vegas rates.

-w.

Avg Joe
05-14-20, 20:17
Can either of you give more details on what was being asked?Sure, Chinese apartments. Wanted a list of the ones still open. Also any AMP doing business out of the back door with both requests for Chicago only.

SaintChuck
05-15-20, 14:02
Got a private message from a monger who has one post from 2005. He wanted some information. Should I give it to him? LOL Rocket Dork.I generally know most of the people that PM me, they are Senior members that I have PM'd with before. When I get a PM from an unknown, I always check their profile and then decide if I am going to answer or not. A few years ago there was a spa getting a lot of attention on a daily basis. I received a PM from a lurker with ZERO reports, asking for a lot of information. I brushed it off and didn't answer. Then he kept sending me PM's about this certain spa and wouldn't stop. I finally sent him a PM telling him that I wasn't comfortable giving intel to a guy with zero posts, therefore no credibility. Then this nut job sends me a PM that he will meet up with me to prove that he is real and not Uncle LEO. Needless to say, I didn't go meet up with him. LOL. SaintChuck.

SmileySam
05-15-20, 20:58
I hate to say it, but the AMP scene is going to be even shittier than it was before, when the AMP's do re-open. I have talked to 2 girls that will not return to AMP work, they will go to work at nail salons. I talked to a woman yesterday and her boss plans re-open on June 1. This woman said that she absolutely won't return on June 1 and that the earliest she would go back would be September. The AMP scene might be slim pickings when they finally re-open. SaintChuck.Who knows. Service may limited and cautious. As time goes by it get back to normal. For the girls it's quick way to make a buck.

Not Dead Yet
05-16-20, 10:45
I hate to say it, but the AMP scene is going to be even shittier than it was before, when the AMP's do re-open. I have talked to 2 girls that will not return to AMP work, they will go to work at nail salons. I talked to a woman yesterday and her boss plans re-open on June 1. This woman said that she absolutely won't return on June 1 and that the earliest she would go back would be September. The AMP scene might be slim pickings when they finally re-open. SaintChuck.For those who don't already have a nail license, at most places. Plus, two to ten dollar tips for nail work will get real old, real fast. We'll find out which girls have been addicted to the casinos, and which have been saving their money. I'm guessing that most will be back at some time. Exceptions might be like those who AvgJoe knows, who have better job qualifications and prospects.

Avg Joe
05-16-20, 20:15
For those who don't already have a nail license, at most places. Plus, two to ten dollar tips for nail work will get real old, real fast. We'll find out which girls have been addicted to the casinos, and which have been saving their money. I'm guessing that most will be back at some time. Exceptions might be like those who AvgJoe knows, who have better job qualifications and prospects.Totally agree. These girls can and do make tons more money working at AMP's than working traditional jobs. The best part is, most if not all is tax free.

SaintChuck
06-03-20, 22:22
I don't understand the logic behind the whole thing with only offering 30 minute sessions. If a woman is working a 12 hour shift and can only do 30 minute sessions, potentially she can see 24 customers in a day. If they would allow 1 hour sessions then she could only see 12 customers a day. If they offered 90 minute sessions then she could only see 8 customers a day. I thought that for safety purposes they would want the staff seeing less customers, thus seeing less customers would equal less chances of contracting the virus. So can somebody please explain why they have made it so that the girls are potentially seeing far more customers. I really don't understand the logic behind this. SaintChuck.

HapaBoy86
06-03-20, 22:24
I don't understand the logic behind the whole thing with only offering 30 minute sessions. If a woman is working a 12 hour shift and can only do 30 minute sessions, potentially she can see 24 customers in a day. If they would allow 1 hour sessions then she could only see 12 customers a day. If they offered 90 minute sessions then she could only see 8 customers a day. I thought that for safety purposes they would want the staff seeing less customers, thus seeing less customers would equal less chances of contracting the virus. So can somebody please explain why they have made it so that the girls are potentially seeing far more customers. I really don't understand the logic behind this. SaintChuck.Ask her pimp? LOL.

More action = mo money!

Avg Joe
06-04-20, 21:01
I don't understand the logic behind the whole thing with only offering 30 minute sessions. If a woman is working a 12 hour shift and can only do 30 minute sessions, potentially she can see 24 customers in a day. If they would allow 1 hour sessions then she could only see 12 customers a day. If they offered 90 minute sessions then she could only see 8 customers a day. I thought that for safety purposes they would want the staff seeing less customers, thus seeing less customers would equal less chances of contracting the virus. So can somebody please explain why they have made it so that the girls are potentially seeing far more customers. I really don't understand the logic behind this. SaintChuck.Probably money. The girls I know would rather do 1/2 hour massages anyway simply because they make more money. Generally about $50 an hour more.

From a safety point of view I agree with you. Less customers, less risk.

Bob521
06-05-20, 02:30
I'm also curious abut this 30 minute thing. As some of you remember, Mei and I moved to Temecula California last year but we're still running Sunshine Health from afar with our local partner Anna. Still legit by the way. So Anna has tried to convince Mei and I (or is it me) that the rules state 30 minutes. Heard some sort of pronouncement. I've heard zero from the village of Buffalo Grove though. We're aiming to re-open on June 15 pending clearance from the Village. Masks, extra sanitizing, appointments an no hanging out in the lobby.

So. What's the origin of this 30 minute thing? It's obviously riskier to see more people each day. Is there any specific mandate?

Thanks,

Bob.


Probably money. The girls I know would rather do 1/2 hour massages anyway simply because they make more money. Generally about $50 an hour more.

From a safety point of view I agree with you. Less customers, less risk.

Bob521
06-05-20, 02:35
We're sticking with the old rates. I feel like most people aren't swimming in cash these days. We're a few thousand in arrears on our rent, but the landlord was pretty decent about it.

Bob.


Chinese shops will probably go to Korean rates, Korean shops to Vegas rates.

-w.

Bob521
06-05-20, 02:40
I'd say all the girls I know are scared shitless to resume work. Now, granted these are mostly ordinary Chinese women who are just trying to make a living and sending money back home to China. I don't know any serious pros. (That's my official story and I'm sticking to it.).

Bob.


I hope that you are wrong sir. I stopped in at a shop in the KC K area (area still under lock down) I was greeted by 2 new ladies that were younger and cuter than the ones there in March. They weren't by any stretch of the imagination young spinners, probably a 7 on most scales. I was given good service at an expected price. My point is that the gals may change or move but I think there are others that will ready and willing to step up.

Sam Spade
06-10-20, 17:51
Does anyone know how to get a post removed? I tried sending to the moderator of the forum, but when I do I get a message saying that user has opted not to receive private messages. Using the Contact Us page has not gotten me a response. Someone is starting to hate me.

SaintChuck
06-10-20, 20:09
Does anyone know how to get a post removed? I tried sending to the moderator of the forum, but when I do I get a message saying that user has opted not to receive private messages. Using the Contact Us page has not gotten me a response. Someone is starting to hate me.I don't think that you can delete a post after a few hours. About 4 years ago I wrote an extremely detailed report about a session that I had with a Korean provider. I didn't give her a glowing review, to say the least. A few hours after I wrote my review, she started sending me angry text messages and she was super pissed. I was going to delete the post, but had no way to do so. I don't regret making the post, the problem was that this woman knew a lot of personal info about me and I didn't want to start a pissing match with her. SaintChuck.

Starks
06-11-20, 18:37
I don't think that you can delete a post after a few hours. About 4 years ago I wrote an extremely detailed report about a session that I had with a Korean provider. I didn't give her a glowing review, to say the least. A few hours after I wrote my review, she started sending me angry text messages and she was super pissed. I was going to delete the post, but had no way to do so. I don't regret making the post, the problem was that this woman knew a lot of personal info about me and I didn't want to start a pissing match with her. SaintChuck.Details man. Tell us the story. You can't put something out there like this without the story.

Indian Chief
06-12-20, 10:12
I don't think that you can delete a post after a few hours. About 4 years ago I wrote an extremely detailed report about a session that I had with a Korean provider. I didn't give her a glowing review, to say the least. A few hours after I wrote my review, she started sending me angry text messages and she was super pissed. I was going to delete the post, but had no way to do so. I don't regret making the post, the problem was that this woman knew a lot of personal info about me and I didn't want to start a pissing match with her. SaintChuck.Hahah. That's why I don't put details. These chic are smart, maintaining high profile life outside. Just up or down vote and some subtle info does it.

Bildo
06-12-20, 15:50
Is it just me, or has Listcrawler been hijacked? The only posts I see today are from the scammers who only leave an email address for contact. I haven't seen any of the known regulars with local phone numbers.

Inquiring minds would like to know.

- Bildo.

Mish6667
06-13-20, 07:07
Is it just me, or has Listcrawler been hijacked? The only posts I see today are from the scammers who only leave an email address for contact. I haven't seen any of the known regulars with local phone numbers.

Inquiring minds would like to know.

- Bildo.I have been using the search bar on Listcrawler with a provider's name or search a town to see what's out there.

Harbinger147
06-21-20, 09:51
https://www.justice.gov/usao-ndtx/pr/us-attorney-s-office-shuts-down-website-promoting-prostitution-and-sex-trafficking

Despite Terms of Use purportedly forbidding the advertisement of illegal sexual services, CityXGuide and its affiliated websites (Backpage. Co, CAPleasures.com, and BodyRubShop.com, among others) allegedly allowed brothels, pimps, and prostitutes to post hundreds of thousands of advertisements for sexual services, which users could then filter by geography and preference.

Looks like a few websites have been seized under fosta.

PussyPoker
07-14-20, 11:59
Hey guys. Hope your mongering in the masked times is going well. Question for anyone that will reply. My RM premium ran out. I just can't see spending $150 for a year subscription of fake reviews from owners. My question is are a lot of you still on RM and are you purchasing new subscriptions?

PP.

Sam Spade
07-14-20, 13:11
Hey guys. Hope your mongering in the masked times is going well. Question for anyone that will reply. My RM premium ran out. I just can't see spending $150 for a year subscription of fake reviews from owners. My question is are a lot of you still on RM and are you purchasing new subscriptions?

PP.I use RM if I'm looking for an AMP in a town I'll be visiting, and get the address. But after that I come back here to learn the truth, or what passes for the truth. Sorry guys, but you know you exaggerate. "And then we used the bars on the ceiling to do inverted K9. ".

FranklySports
07-14-20, 16:13
Hey guys. Hope your mongering in the masked times is going well. Question for anyone that will reply. My RM premium ran out. I just can't see spending $150 for a year subscription of fake reviews from owners. My question is are a lot of you still on RM and are you purchasing new subscriptions?

PP.I haven't sent them Nickle yet. Just posting spa pics for 18 months. I travel a lot. So I use it to narrow. Down the. Choices. I know where to find what I need around home and that doesn't change much.

HappyJack42
07-14-20, 16:31
Hey guys. Hope your mongering in the masked times is going well. Question for anyone that will reply. My RM premium ran out. I just can't see spending $150 for a year subscription of fake reviews from owners. My question is are a lot of you still on RM and are you purchasing new subscriptions?

PP.Yea, I still subscribe and I really don't know why.

SaintChuck
07-14-20, 19:42
Hey guys. Hope your mongering in the masked times is going well. Question for anyone that will reply. My RM premium ran out. I just can't see spending $150 for a year subscription of fake reviews from owners. My question is are a lot of you still on RM and are you purchasing new subscriptions?

PP.I am done with RM. Way too many BS and fantasy reports. The final straw for me was this guy in Chicago who was obsessed with one of the girls. The reports started out kind of funny and entertaining. After a while it was clear that he had mental issues and his reports were becoming more and more disturbing. The last few reports he wrote were borderline on sexual assault and sounded more like an episode of Law and Order SVU. SaintChuck.

Hrodebert
07-15-20, 02:09
I dropped my subscription. 60% bull shit in Chicago area in the last 4 months on RM. All written by a spa manager and his cronies.


Hey guys. Hope your mongering in the masked times is going well. Question for anyone that will reply. My RM premium ran out. I just can't see spending $150 for a year subscription of fake reviews from owners. My question is are a lot of you still on RM and are you purchasing new subscriptions?

PP.

Harbinger147
07-15-20, 10:00
I am done with RM. Way too many BS and fantasy reports. The final straw for me was this guy in Chicago who was obsessed with one of the girls. The reports started out kind of funny and entertaining. After a while it was clear that he had mental issues and his reports were becoming more and more disturbing. The last few reports he wrote were borderline on sexual assault and sounded more like an episode of Law and Order SVU. SaintChuck.Damn dude, which one? I kinda want to go look for it in my RM account.

SaintChuck
07-15-20, 11:41
Damn dude, which one? I kinda want to go look for it in my RM account.It was Ruby Spa in Chicago. The girls name was Cici or Coco. You can't miss it because each one of the reports has like 20 comments from other members. Some really twisted crap. SaintChuck.

Avg Joe
07-15-20, 11:43
Hey guys. Hope your mongering in the masked times is going well. Question for anyone that will reply. My RM premium ran out. I just can't see spending $150 for a year subscription of fake reviews from owners. My question is are a lot of you still on RM and are you purchasing new subscriptions?

PP.I quit a long time ago. Didn't take me long to figure out that many, if not most of the reports are fake. One report was about an AMP girl I knew very well who had returned to China and after she left the reports continued for 6 months. I know because on one of my business trips there I saw her several times at her family home in Beijing. When I returned, there was a new report about someone seeing her while I was gone LOL. Total waste of time and money in my opinion.

Hrodebert
07-15-20, 23:34
There was a guy who was quite obsessed and very weird about Yoyo.


Damn dude, which one? I kinda want to go look for it in my RM account.

AcrossTheUnive
07-16-20, 12:17
I was searching as normal on listcrawler this morning. Seems totally fine. Hope it stays that way.

ChiExplorer
08-15-20, 17:50
Hey I am new to this just adding my 2 cents I have been a regular with this one nice normal basic service at first is nervous when I first after she is just normal and ok for the price. 8 for a qv not bad guys https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/53276637/.

ReadyForRub
08-16-20, 14:43
Hey I am new to this just adding my 2 cents I have been a regular with this one nice normal basic service at first is nervous when I first after she is just normal and ok for the price. 8 for a qv not bad guys https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/illinois/chicago/53276637/.Which roll accommodates the penetration?

LeeOskar
09-03-20, 16:13
Seems that Escortfish is now sumosearch. All old links to escortfish come up as sumosearch, It's a little different, you can search phone #s and they have direct links to the ads, but mostly the same.

https://sumosear.ch/

https://escortfish.ch/photos/view/217-706-1926

SaintChuck
09-04-20, 16:11
I saw this ad on BP and couldn't stop laughing. They might as well have posted the price for extras. https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/spring-grove-il-mdash-new-management-young-korean-girls/9727943.html Probably won't take very long for this place to get popped. SaintChuck.

FnlvnGuy
09-04-20, 17:12
I saw this ad on BP and couldn't stop laughing. They might as well have posted the price for extras. https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/spring-grove-il-mdash-new-management-young-korean-girls/9727943.html Probably won't take very long for this place to get popped. SaintChuck.It is almost by Wisconsin. Too far for a ride.

BitterRoot56
09-04-20, 17:59
I saw this ad on BP and couldn't stop laughing. They might as well have posted the price for extras. https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/spring-grove-il-mdash-new-management-young-korean-girls/9727943.html Probably won't take very long for this place to get popped. SaintChuck.Unreal. That's pretty obvious, upfront.

Sam Spade
09-04-20, 20:12
I saw this ad on BP and couldn't stop laughing. They might as well have posted the price for extras. https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/spring-grove-il-mdash-new-management-young-korean-girls/9727943.html Probably won't take very long for this place to get popped. SaintChuck.I was there recently. First it is a Korean place, even with a full time mammasan with a wicked sense of humor. She checks you out, asks questions, takes your temp, then sanitizes you, everything short of a hazmat suit. Once she leads you inside, she will start introducing you to the very friendly staff. Then, with your wrist held by her, mammasan will then start putting your hand on, a, things, just to see how you react, I'm sure. Since I reacted in a positive manner and a smile you could see through my mask, I got a room, then an MT, then a table shower and a strong massage, including back walking. My MT was nice enough in the body, but they are all a little older and a little rougher than what you would get in Mt. Prospect places, or Algonquin for that matter. On the way out I was "passed" from my MT, back to mammasan, who then called the girls out of their rooms to say goodbye to me. Back in my car I had to laugh.

Matchstick
09-05-20, 00:24
I was there recently. First it is a Korean place, even with a full time mammasan with a wicked sense of humor. She checks you out, asks questions, takes your temp, then sanitizes you, everything short of a hazmat suit. Once she leads you inside, she will start introducing you to the very friendly staff. Then, with your wrist held by her, mammasan will then start putting your hand on, a, things, just to see how you react, I'm sure. Since I reacted in a positive manner and a smile you could see through my mask, I got a room, then an MT, then a table shower and a strong massage, including back walking. My MT was nice enough in the body, but they are all a little older and a little rougher than what you would get in Mt. Prospect places, or Algonquin for that matter. On the way out I was "passed" from my MT, back to mammasan, who then called the girls out of their rooms to say goodbye to me. Back in my car I had to laugh.Spring Grove is a small town (was once known for its speed trap and still may be, I haven't been there in 15 years) so I don't see this place staying for more than another month. . . If lucky. Kinda like the place that opened up right off the square in Woodstock, was closed in under a month.

SaintChuck
09-10-20, 18:38
I am getting a little tired of the same old routine at the AMP's. I saw this ad and it seemed very interesting. Has anybody taken the plunge with this one? https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/bp/9745118.html You can PM me if need be. Thanks, SaintChuck.

Bateman97
09-14-20, 22:04
I am getting a little tired of the same old routine at the AMP's. I saw this ad and it seemed very interesting. Has anybody taken the plunge with this one? https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/bp/9745118.html You can PM me if need be. Thanks, SaintChuck.I am curious as well. My dragon muscle is sore!

Sully1234
09-28-20, 09:20
I am curious as well. My dragon muscle is sore!I live in town and trying to figure out how to check it out because everyone knows me and my vehicle. I was picking up dinner from a place in the same mall and was driving slow in the parking lot checking it out and the mammasan was having a smoke outside and walked over to my car and invited me in for some fun. Very bold not sure how long it will last here.

Bateman97
10-05-20, 22:31
I live in town and trying to figure out how to check it out because everyone knows me and my vehicle. I was picking up dinner from a place in the same mall and was driving slow in the parking lot checking it out and the mammasan was having a smoke outside and walked over to my car and invited me in for some fun. Very bold not sure how long it will last here.I went to the place street no. 2705 in the city. Storefront. Buzzed in. Masks on whole session. Temp taken. Wanded with UV light and doused with hand sanitizer. $. 1 for 30 min with L1 and prostate. Short Chinese woman. Spinneresque. Anywher from 35 to 50. Cute in a dress. She got right to business. Face up the whole time. Massaged in and around boys. Great technique. Some but play. Knows what she's doing. She was fully clothed and took her time. Was there for full half hour. 15 min play 15 min massage. Definitely a nice change of pace. Won't be a regular but I thought it was good. Sometimes its nice to get away from the scams and the bullsh!.

Sully1234
10-14-20, 08:56
Maybe taking a que from restaurants. I was doing some business at another place in the same mall the other morning when I noticed a petite Asian dressed in sweats and wearing a mask standing at the opposite end of the mall (looking a little nervous) when a 50 ish white dude in a suv pulled up and she jumped in.

Sam Spade
11-02-20, 15:25
I don't mean to scare anybody, but.

Went to an AMP two weeks ago and there was no temp check. MT let me stay unmasked which she stayed masked. Just got back from an AMP this morning, a different one in the far northern burbs where I live. Again, no temp check and I was not required to mask up. The girl who took my money wasn't wearing one at all.

Now that I think about it, I went to a FS Korean place in the far, far, far northern burbs about a month ago, and they did temp check, sprayed me, scrubbed me over and over and gave me mouthwash, and then let me be with no mask on during some rather adventurous maneuvers. Of course on the way out of all these establishments I masked up so that no one on the outside would have that to complain about.

Has anyone else noticed this? When the AMPs first opened up after the lockdowns the precautions were very evident. I don't really care because I am healthy and take my vitamins. But if you have a weak immune system, are in your 60's or over, you may want to insist.

E2304
11-02-20, 18:08
I don't mean to scare anybody, but.

Went to an AMP two weeks ago and there was no temp check. MT let me stay unmasked which she stayed masked. Just got back from an AMP this morning, a different one in the far northern burbs where I live. Again, no temp check and I was not required to mask up. The girl who took my money wasn't wearing one at all.

Now that I think about it, I went to a FS Korean place in the far, far, far northern burbs about a month ago, and they did temp check, sprayed me, scrubbed me over and over and gave me mouthwash, and then let me be with no mask on during some rather adventurous maneuvers. Of course on the way out of all these establishments I masked up so that no one on the outside would have that to complain about.

Has anyone else noticed this? When the AMPs first opened up after the lockdowns the precautions were very evident. I don't really care because I am healthy and take my vitamins. But if you have a weak immune system, are in your 60's or over, you may want to insist.There is complacency. Look up Rt are sub t values for the states. Rt. Live website. Value over one means exponential growth in virus cases. There is a human cost to propaganda. Many will get sick. Some will die. Please be safe.

Sam Spade
12-15-20, 18:21
Since March I've seen a lot of comments by guys saying it is way too scary to go to an AMP, EMP or escort right now, because of the high risk of infection. Well, I'm going to try and change your mind about that.

Stress leaves you vulnerable to infection, as your immune system does not operate well when you are stressed. So doesn't a nice massage leave you feeling a lot better, even without the happy ending? And if you do get that happy ending and the girl is not a jackhammer operator, rude or demanding of a ridiculous tip, you feel better still, right?

Get plenty of rest, eat right, lay off the booze, exercise and get off, and you'll do just fine. Healthy living.

SouthSideRed
12-31-20, 19:37
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JackRam
02-12-21, 07:15
Do something nice to your favorite Chinese Spa girl today. A small basket of fruit and some candy goes a long or just send a message.

NitroPimp
02-12-21, 16:58
Do something nice to your favorite Chinese Spa girl today. A small basket of fruit and some candy goes a long or just send a message.Agreed! Today is the biggest holiday in China and some other countries in that region. Koreans and Thais also celebrate the "Lunar New Year". It is the beginning of the Spring Festival and is celebrated for 15 days. It's supposed to mark the end of the coldest day. In NE IL, it's Debatable this year! 4719, This is the year of the Ox. This is a good time to visit your ATF or any spa for that matter. Bring flowers, Lilies or peonies. Or any flower. Chocolate is good. Some like dark chocolate though. Get both!

Greet your provider, with "Happy New Year" they will be happy that you even know it is there new year. If you tip a little extra, they will associate you with good omens and always remember you.

However, a few providers could be hungover today, I know a couple who indulged last night!

PeterPan123
02-20-21, 22:35
Do something nice to your favorite Chinese Spa girl today. A small basket of fruit and some candy goes a long or just send a message.Its good.

I loved asian girls.

SuburbGuy96
03-03-21, 22:43
Is anyone aware or has anyone experienced TER not accepting online payment for a membership? There is reviews I would like to read but cannot gain access. Have tried several cards.

Nelson Muntz
03-25-21, 22:22
Is anyone aware or has anyone experienced TER not accepting online payment for a membership? There is reviews I would like to read but cannot gain access. Have tried several cards.If you give a review, you get in. If you become a premium member, you get very detailed reviews. The very best forum set up but not a lot of the lower end girls. It would be nice if all these sex aides could combine. It would be like NSA or BI info.

Waking521
04-06-21, 01:01
I wasn't sure where else to put this, so here it is!

I'm also going to put this up in the Chicago General Reports.

Does anyone have info on any local camgirls that are also providers? Like MFC or Chaturbate models? And by local. I guess I mean in the near Midwest area, too, if that helps.

I've been in contact with certain camgirls (definitely not local) who were open to it. But with COVID, well, long distance travel plans have been canceled.

Hotwad
05-19-21, 22:43
I got to my next place to load early (I drive a truck), so I dollied down and went and got a room for a shower and a little sleep. I went to a truckstop and fueled up and met this hot, young looking chick that said she needed a ride across town and would get in the sleeper with me. She got in and she looked very young so I asked for an I'd. It Said she was 22. Surprised she let me see it. Down the road I got lights and sirens. I had nothing to hide so I consented to search, telling the officers I had a weapon and a CCP. All went well till they searched her. She had a false I'd and more drugs on her than a pharmacy and had dropped some in the truck. They arrested her and she had a record for multiple prostitution arrests. Then they came back to me. They were going to charge me with transporting a known prostitute, inappropriate actions with a minor, delivery of controlled substance, and soliciting and were going to confiscate my $200,000 Kenworth. Luckily another cop came along that I knew from a shooting club I attend and I told him I knew nothing, just giving her a ride home. He knew me so he let me go. BE CAREFUL what you pick up off the street. Woke my ass up.

Sam Spade
05-23-21, 10:27
On the Il-Other Areas forum a few days ago, I posted about all 3 AMPs being shut down, all with Keep Out signs stuck to their doors. Now it is not that unusual for us to see spas get shut down, but it is usually one at a time after charges have been pressed or the town government passes some stupid ordinance. But that is it. They just get shut down. No one puts up Keep Out signs, directing you to contact the building department.

So yesterday a fellow monger sent me a PM, saying he'd been in contact with some of the girls who work the Wauconda shops and they said the fire department shut them down. Now the only reason a fire department can shut you down is if you do something to break the fire codes. I always figured that would be oily rags stuffed in a corner, something like that. And I am hard pressed to thing of anything in the dozens (possibly hundreds over 30 years) of AMPs I have been to that would make for a fire hazard. And all three at once?

My fellow monger pointed out that this could be the same thing that happened in Florida to the owner of a rather famous team a couple years ago. AMP gets shut down for a Mickey Mouse violation, and while the place is empty, the No Fun squad comes in and installs hidden cameras with a live feed.

The owner of said sports team skated after a judge dropped the charges and ordered the tapes sealed. Good for him. But we can't count on that. If the spas open and you visit, you may want to ask the MTs if they have taken a really, really serious look around. Like removing ceiling tiles and looking for cables that end pointed inside the rooms.

HenryA77
06-20-21, 19:48
On the Il-Other Areas forum a few days ago, I posted about all 3 AMPs being shut down, all with Keep Out signs stuck to their doors. Now it is not that unusual for us to see spas get shut down, but it is usually one at a time after charges have been pressed or the town government passes some stupid ordinance. But that is it. They just get shut down. No one puts up Keep Out signs, directing you to contact the building department.

So yesterday a fellow monger sent me a PM, saying he'd been in contact with some of the girls who work the Wauconda shops and they said the fire department shut them down. Now the only reason a fire department can shut you down is if you do something to break the fire codes. I always figured that would be oily rags stuffed in a corner, something like that. And I am hard pressed to thing of anything in the dozens (possibly hundreds over 30 years) of AMPs I have been to that would make for a fire hazard. And all three at once?

My fellow monger pointed out that this could be the same thing that happened in Florida to the owner of a rather famous team a couple years ago. AMP gets shut down for a Mickey Mouse violation, and while the place is empty, the No Fun squad comes in and installs hidden cameras with a live feed.

The owner of said sports team skated after a judge dropped the charges and ordered the tapes sealed. Good for him. But we can't count on that. If the spas open and you visit, you may want to ask the MTs if they have taken a really, really serious look around. Like removing ceiling tiles and looking for cables that end pointed inside the rooms.Sometimes these places also serve as living quarters for the women. I've seen that before. Might well have been what nailed them.

I know of a house in elgin that is home to many a Chinese lady whom I suspect of visa overstaying. I nailed one.

Emiglio
06-22-21, 19:25
Looked everywhere? Does anyone know what CW allowed, and no ss. Means? I e mailed the model, but as I expected, " I do not discuss this in e mail. " She was kind enough to at least reply.

LeeOskar
06-23-21, 20:22
Looked everywhere? Does anyone know what CW allowed, and no ss. Means? I e mailed the model, but as I expected, " I do not discuss this in e mail. " She was kind enough to at least reply.SS = Stripper Slide, rubbing her bare pussy up & down you bare dick.

CW = Don't know. Only guessing CoWgirl? Most would say CG.

LeeOskar
06-27-21, 23:33
Looked everywhere? Does anyone know what CW allowed, and no ss. Means? I e mailed the model, but as I expected, " I do not discuss this in e mail. " She was kind enough to at least reply.Saw CW on another site & it finally clicked. "Cock Worship", if you want a long drawn out BJ, where worshiping your cock, and not just getting you off is the priority.

Emiglio
06-29-21, 14:30
Saw CW on another site & it finally clicked. "Cock Worship", if you want a long drawn out BJ, where worshiping your cock, and not just getting you off is the priority.Thanks Lee, it was driving me crazy.

BrokenFire18
07-26-21, 18:41
Is anyone aware or has anyone experienced TER not accepting online payment for a membership? There is reviews I would like to read but cannot gain access. Have tried several cards.You might want to get a VPN or something. I think they passed some laws that prevented folks in the US to view but I think they reversed their course. Check with your bank too. I think TER uses a payment company that is foreign so your bank might think its fraud.

SaintChuck
08-04-21, 19:04
https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/naperville/9694974.html I was trolling through the ad's on BedPage today and I almost pissed my pants. The old ad's with the almost naked Asian models are gone. The ad's are now posted like something from a dating site. It has an obvious fake photo and then goes on with this total BS bio. The bio's are epic and whoever is writing them should get a huge pay raise. One bio had that the woman liked puppies and pizza etc. If you have been to an AMP you cleary know that these bio's were not written by the women. If you want a good laugh go to BedPage and read a few of these. SaintChuck.

DMichaels69
08-04-21, 21:02
I saw those, very funny.


https://chicago.bedpage.com/TherapeuticMassage/naperville/9694974.html I was trolling through the ad's on BedPage today and I almost pissed my pants. The old ad's with the almost naked Asian models are gone. The ad's are now posted like something from a dating site. It has an obvious fake photo and then goes on with this total BS bio. The bio's are epic and whoever is writing them should get a huge pay raise. One bio had that the woman liked puppies and pizza etc. If you have been to an AMP you cleary know that these bio's were not written by the women. If you want a good laugh go to BedPage and read a few of these. SaintChuck.

Ddaavvee1
09-04-21, 17:17
The last two spas I have been to in the last couple of weeks seem to have MTs with GPS. Both have offered "I kiss you and you kiss me" for $. I am not interested in this especially for $. Both massages were subpar. All I want is a good massage with a happy ending. What is happening with the MTs.

DMichaels69
09-04-21, 19:35
Its BS is what it is. Unfortunately the reason this has become so bad is some mongers pay them for it and all it takes is one monger to pay. I had an old granny try and get 40 out of me for just massage. I said your getting a massage tip only. I had another tell me she wanted 80 for a handy since I roamed UTC a little. I said no way. The only way to stop it is to say no and stop giving them business. I saw that happen once where the parlor actually closed because the ladies were such jack asses.


The last two spas I have been to in the last couple of weeks seem to have MTs with GPS. Both have offered "I kiss you and you kiss me" for $. I am not interested in this especially for $. Both massages were subpar. All I want is a good massage with a happy ending. What is happening with the MTs.

Sam Spade
10-03-21, 10:05
Did you ever worry that something would happen when visiting an AMP that would force you out in the public? Like a raid, getting questioned by Uncle LEO in the parking lot, a provider going nuts and giving you a black eye?

Well, mine was not nearly so dramatic, and I think I'm going to get away with it. Here's the story.

A couple days ago I'm visiting a west suburban spa in a strip mall. All done, I walk out and get in my car, start her up, check everywhere and back out of my parking spot. I put it in Drive, just in time to hear Bang. Look in the rear view mirror and there is an SUV, stopped right behind me. Oh damn. I get out, and he gets out, then his wife.

"Are you OK?" Yes, everyone is fine. We look at our cars. His SUV shows not a damn thing. My sedan has two scratches and a minor gash. He's apologizing, she's apologizing. I assure them it is OK, that the marks were there before (they weren't) and to not worry about it and have a nice day. I don't think they noticed that I was leaving an AMP, or that they knew what one was. Well, the guy probably did, maybe not his wife.

So my better half hasn't noticed yet. I figure the longer it takes her to notice, the better off I'll be because I can claim I don't know what happened or when.

Still, this sucks. If he had insisted on filing a report, I'd be in Creative Writing 101.

"Yeah honey, I was just driving around in a 'burb 30 miles from our house with no real purpose. Just bored, ya know? I saw a liquor store in a strip mall and decided to stop in and see if they had any of that 10 year old Chardonnay you like so much. And then Bam! Out of no where this guy hits me. ".

JackRam
10-03-21, 10:26
Did you ever worry that something would happen when visiting an AMP that would force you out in the public? Like a raid, getting questioned by Uncle LEO in the parking lot, a provider going nuts and giving you a black eye?

Well, mine was not nearly so dramatic, and I think I'm going to get away with it. Here's the story.

A couple days ago I'm visiting a west suburban spa in a strip mall. All done, I walk out and get in my car, start her up, check everywhere and back out of my parking spot. I put it in Drive, just in time to hear Bang. Look in the rear view mirror and there is an SUV, stopped right behind me. Oh damn. I get out, and he gets out, then his wife.

"Are you OK?" Yes, everyone is fine. We look at our cars. His SUV shows not a damn thing. My sedan has two scratches and a minor gash. He's apologizing, she's apologizing. I assure them it is OK, that the marks were there before (they weren't) and to not worry about it and have a nice day. I don't think they noticed that I was leaving an AMP, or that they knew what one was. Well, the guy probably did, maybe not his wife.

So my better half hasn't noticed yet. I figure the longer it takes her to notice, the better off I'll be because I can claim I don't know what happened or when.

Still, this sucks. If he had insisted on filing a report, I'd be in Creative Writing 101.

"Yeah honey, I was just driving around in a 'burb 30 miles from our house with no real purpose. Just bored, ya know? I saw a liquor store in a strip mall and decided to stop in and see if they had any of that 10 year old Chardonnay you like so much. And then Bam! Out of no where this guy hits me. ".I've been at a shop 2 times when raided. Got out unscathed both time. No matter where I visit I always have a "cover for action" plan in case I get jammed up.

Bkmsw
10-03-21, 12:18
I've been at a shop 2 times when raided. Got out unscathed both time. No matter where I visit I always have a "cover for action" plan in case I get jammed up.Would you mind sharing your experience at the raid? Did the cops question you? What was your story? Plus what is your "cover for action" plan? It might help some of us out if we ever get into a jam. I realize you may need to change some minor details to protect your anonymity but I think we could all learn something from you.

B.

Hobby Knobby
10-11-21, 19:41
Its BS is what it is. Unfortunately the reason this has become so bad is some mongers pay them for it and all it takes is one monger to pay. I had an old granny try and get 40 out of me for just massage. I said your getting a massage tip only. I had another tell me she wanted 80 for a handy since I roamed UTC a little. I said no way. The only way to stop it is to say no and stop giving them business. I saw that happen once where the parlor actually closed because the ladies were such jack asses.I'm not a cheap skate, but always start low. You don't buy a car for the asking price. More often than not these girls will cave because they want the cash.

LeeOskar
11-02-21, 10:50
I'm having issues with it. The manage attachments option isn't working for me. Any help?

Sam Spade
12-26-21, 11:40
I've made good use of my mongering free time over the holidays. But I've also noticed an overall rise in prices at the AMPs. 1. 6 for FS, 1. 2 for CBJ. At one of my favorite goto places in Buffalo Grove, girl wanted to charge me 1 for nude L1, and I had to argue with her for a couple minutes, getting very close to walking if she didn't accept my. 8. She gave in and performed good after that, but still it bugs me. In some of the cases I listed above I just said no and downgraded. I haven't walked, yet.

Inflation is all over the place, for every bit of good and services. And I understand it hits the girls as much as it hits us. But it's obvious they are taking advantage of the situation. Face it, the majority of us walk in there with nothing but a pocket full of Jacksons, they know this, and up their prices by a Jackson, not a Hamilton, and certainly not by an Abe.

And it's not as if I am getting much hotter, younger women for this extra. The quality you can expect around Chicago has pretty much remained the same. We get the leftovers, and the really hot ones either go to the high end escort agencies or to the warmer states, Cali and Florida.

I'm not just complaining. I'd like you guys to tell me if you've noticed the same, if you've walked or argued your way down. They are in a bargaining bind as well, if you refuse any extra service that is a lost investment of their time as well, and a good indication of getting a bad rep and less customers.

HenryA77
12-28-21, 19:26
I've made good use of my mongering free time over the holidays. But I've also noticed an overall rise in prices at the AMPs. 1. 6 for FS, 1. 2 for CBJ. At one of my favorite goto places in Buffalo Grove, girl wanted to charge me 1 for nude L1, and I had to argue with her for a couple minutes, getting very close to walking if she didn't accept my. 8. She gave in and performed good after that, but still it bugs me. In some of the cases I listed above I just said no and downgraded. I haven't walked, yet.

Inflation is all over the place, for every bit of good and services. I always make sure I bring several 5's and 10's, to avoid that issue.

But yes, I have walked, and I have said "just do massage, that is all I have" and have left a tip that is appropriate for a real massage.

Sucks to do it, but I think of it like TOFTT.

JolieThornDog
01-16-22, 16:19
I admit I must be the dumbest monger on her, and I have what many of you may consider a basic question. What is the difference between a Chinese and Korean AMP, and how do you know before going in, other than asking. If someone would be gracious enough to PM me 1 or 2 of each in the Naperville / Aurora area, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Ksterk
01-17-22, 12:31
I admit I must be the dumbest monger on her, and I have what many of you may consider a basic question. What is the difference between a Chinese and Korean AMP, and how do you know before going in, other than asking. If someone would be gracious enough to PM me 1 or 2 of each in the Naperville / Aurora area, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.I'll 2nd that Question. I don't know the difference either!

HenryA77
01-17-22, 13:27
I'll 2nd that Question. I don't know the difference either!Usually, its the price. Chinese tend to be cheaper, Korean tend to be more expensive.

These days most Chinese places are 65/ hr, Korean places used to be 70/ hr, but now want 80/ hr. One place in the western burbs wants 100/ hr. I laughed & walked out.

Korean places USUALLY have a table shower, and they USED to have a dry sauna, but the sauna is pretty hard to find now.

Chinese places USUALLY do NOT have a table shower. There are exceptions, though.

The Korean places tend to do a better massage, IMHO. Korean massage works the muscles more, They used to crack your back and neck, or walk your back. I no longer want any of these, and I think they are harder to come by.

Chinese massage is more repetitive, but their skull and foot massage is really good, if you like that.

Extras tend to be more common at Korean places, esp L2/ L3. Chinese places often are L1 only.

Age and looks are really similar, you'll find grannies at both, but also hot milfs at both. The latter are way less common than the former.

JolieThornDog
01-17-22, 14:05
Usually, its the price. Chinese tend to be cheaper, Korean tend to be more expensive.

These days most Chinese places are 65/ hr, Korean places used to be 70/ hr, but now want 80/ hr. One place in the western burbs wants 100/ hr. I laughed & walked out.

Korean places USUALLY have a table shower, and they USED to have a dry sauna, but the sauna is pretty hard to find now.

Chinese places USUALLY do NOT have a table shower. There are exceptions, though.

The Korean places tend to do a better massage, IMHO. Korean massage works the muscles more, They used to crack your back and neck, or walk your back. I no longer want any of these, and I think they are harder to come by.

Chinese massage is more repetitive, but their skull and foot massage is really good, if you like that.

Extras tend to be more common at Korean places, esp L2/ L3. Chinese places often are L1 only.

Age and looks are really similar, you'll find grannies at both, but also hot milfs at both. The latter are way less common than the former.Thank you.

CakeLover13
01-19-22, 05:50
Thats not a dumb question at all if you haven't been into the mongering scene as long as some of us. Besides what already has been spelled, I always look for how the place is decorated when you enter. For example, if you notice floral pattern posters and such on the outside of the building, and no door between front desk and rooms, odds are its Chinese, and also of the walls in room s do not go all the way up to the ceiling, also odds are its Chinese, but not guaranteed. When the masseuse comes in room, first 2 things I ask, is name and where she's from?

Lastly, here's an another example of a dumb question, a fellow, monger somewhere asked something along the lines of. "Is it ok to take off my underwear during massage?" Good luck though on finding a place.


I admit I must be the dumbest monger on her, and I have what many of you may consider a basic question. What is the difference between a Chinese and Korean AMP, and how do you know before going in, other than asking. If someone would be gracious enough to PM me 1 or 2 of each in the Naperville / Aurora area, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you..

PWood769
04-06-22, 07:46
Hey all, I work all around the northern suburbs, could really use a good massage, L1/ L2. Any independents, preferably Latina anyone would recommend? Or else I'll try one of the agencies. Tia!

Vegas Scott
04-12-22, 18:35
Hi all, coming to Niles IL for a few days for a Contract Job. Can you all recommend an L2 or L3 Chinese or Korean AMP. Hopefully younger attractive girls. Or at least attractive. WI is a mess right now AMP's are shutting down left and right an the average MT is 50-70 yrs old and ugly. Our Provider situation is even worse with nothing but scabbed up junkies and slores looking to rip off.

I couldn't figure out what city I would find "Niles" under in the forum menu, so I can't research the AMP scene, if someone could provide that info I would be happy to do my own due diligence and RTFF.

SpudNut21
05-24-22, 00:23
Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?

Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?

FnlvnGuy
05-24-22, 08:47
Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?

Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?I hear this a lot too, but maybe we just go to the same places.

Bkmsw
05-24-22, 10:28
Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?

Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?Technically there are no babies in there. It requires one sperm and one egg to make a baby. Putting aside the whole "when life begins concept" the sperm are nothing more than half the ingredients to produce a baby. Maybe you should keep copies of biology books around so you can hand them out when they make these comments? It's always a good thing to spread knowledge after spreading a girl's legs.

B.

JolieThornDog
05-24-22, 11:47
Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?

Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?My ex-wife used to say that when sh's spit after giving me a blow job. I thought it was weird then, but she gave a great BJ so I ignored it.

Sam Spade
05-24-22, 16:18
Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?

Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?Remember those stories about women who steal sperm the guy left behind, to make a baby without his consent or knowledge? And then the story of Drake who put hot sauce in the used condom before throwing it away, and the Instagram "model" who then burned her vag with it, trying to make a baby and get a ton of child support. It sounds like urban legends, but apparently it is a real thing.

And if you read through the articles, there are judges who set precedence, awarding the women child support money, even while acknowledging that the woman did a despicable thing, because the child that resulted from her actions shouldn't be punished for the actions of the mother. That's nice, but the judges aren't punishing the thief mothers either.

FranklySports
05-25-22, 13:55
Don't know if any you fellow mongers have experienced this (or I'm just attracting some weirdos)?

Several girls have done this same weird gesture afterward. After a covered service of any level; they would hold up the filled bag and say something along the line of: "so many babies in there!" I usually ignore and shrug it off, but it's happening more often and with different ladies. Anyone else have this happen?I smile, shake my head and tell them sorry but the doctor fixed. That.

Head First
07-12-22, 13:51
This is a story that I'm still shaking my head about.

Me and my son were out grocery shopping. He grabs a cart and says follow me. Head over to produce and he tells me to put a pineapple in. We head back to the entrance and begin our shopping.

I ask him why the pineapple. He says him and his buddy do this sometimes to pick up pussy. Huh?

He says putting a pineapple in your cart, upside down, is a sign to swingers that you're in the mood. It's a club that's been around for a while that started on cruise ships where swingers would put one outside their cabin door indicating they're looking to have some fun. It expanded to being out and about, where you can be wearing a tropical shirt or anything pineapple related as a way to start up a conversation. Does it work?

He said one time a guy approached them and asked if they wanted to grab a cup of coffee or a drink. They passed.

Another time about a month ago a guy started chatting them up and came right out and asked if they wanted to come back to his place and fuck his wife. They passed.

I'm like you got my attention.

Back to our shopping. I notice a bit of attention coming our way. Now he's young and fit so I'm not sure if the pineapple had anything to do with it but it's fun. No one approached.

We get to the checkout and then things changed. The girl is mid 30's and attractive. She's being really flirty and friendly to both of us. She talks about how she's a single mom and works hard and likes to party too. My son has good game so I just kept quiet. She was definitely waiting for him to make a move but he didn't. She grabs the pineapple out of the cart, holds it up and asks "Do you really want this?" I look at my son and I'm like did I hear what I just heard. Folks, we had a bingo!

We checked out but will definitely be going back, separately, hoping to get in her line again.

Blew my mind.

Hammerhead2
07-13-22, 11:38
Lately, as I view the ads concerning what they are willing to do, I see the terms, "classic sex" and in addition to "GFE" now there is also "GFE and VIP". So three questions. Does classic sex mean anything else than Missionary? And Is there a difference between GFE and VIP? If so, what is it?

Head First
10-11-22, 11:23
I'm not sure why but over the years I've noticed that the girls always increase their ask by 20. They want 60, I offer 40. They want 100, I offer 80. They want 160, I offer 140. So what I do is to always carry a 10. If they say no to my lowball as I'm reaching into my pocket to show them that's all I brought in, I'll bump it up 10, promising to bring more next time. Which is when they say ok, you bring more next time.

More times than not they take it. Win / Win.

DMichaels69
10-11-22, 16:01
Exactly what I do except I counteroffer and don't show any cash.


I'm not sure why but over the years I've noticed that the girls always increase their ask by 20. They want 60, I offer 40. They want 100, I offer 80. They want 160, I offer 140. So what I do is to always carry a 10. If they say no to my lowball as I'm reaching into my pocket to show them that's all I brought in, I'll bump it up 10, promising to bring more next time. Which is when they say ok, you bring more next time.

More times than not they take it. Win / Win.

FranklySports
10-25-22, 18:45
I heard a provider that I used to enjoy in the Denver area has relocated to the Chicago Area. If anyone comes across her I would appreciate a heads up. - thanks.

She went by the name Lee, Korean, Around*50 yo. Short black hair Bs. FS gal enjoys giving BBBJ and TUMA. Worked at Blue Spa in Commerce city.

Jimbo7825
11-05-22, 13:55
I'm a little more aggressive on the cuts depending on price, for example 120 ill offer 60, they try to counter at 100 and settle on 80. I never offer to bring more the second time, but offer repeat business. In my area they all have habbits so if you catch them at the right time they will settle for the lower amount right away. In the end they are trying to get the most out of you for least amount service and I'm trying to get the most service out of them for the least amount and have no shame doing that. Remember they will give it away for free outside the biz to get things.


I'm not sure why but over the years I've noticed that the girls always increase their ask by 20. They want 60, I offer 40. They want 100, I offer 80. They want 160, I offer 140. So what I do is to always carry a 10. If they say no to my lowball as I'm reaching into my pocket to show them that's all I brought in, I'll bump it up 10, promising to bring more next time. Which is when they say ok, you bring more next time.

More times than not they take it. Win / Win.

Sam Spade
11-07-22, 18:26
I'm not sure why but over the years I've noticed that the girls always increase their ask by 20. They want 60, I offer 40. They want 100, I offer 80. They want 160, I offer 140. So what I do is to always carry a 10. If they say no to my lowball as I'm reaching into my pocket to show them that's all I brought in, I'll bump it up 10, promising to bring more next time. Which is when they say ok, you bring more next time.

More times than not they take it. Win / Win.They charge in increments of 20 because they know we hit up the ATMs before showing up, the majority of which spit out nothing by Jacksons. That bill is so common that I've heard them referred to as Yuppie Coupons.

AssMann82
03-15-23, 08:14
Anyone notice lately that List crawler (escort Babylon) has really turn to shit lately?

Its 99 percent scam and fake ads now. Obviously this isn't new but it's getting to the point where it's not worth it.

It should be easier than ever to find someone but it's all just nonsense.

Head First
08-03-23, 11:53
I know they're in here somewhere but I can't find them. Can somebody steer me towards the section or posts about Mongering rules for newbies. I have a friend that's just getting into this hobby of ours and would like to take advantage of all of our wisdom and knowledge as opposed to learning the hard way.

Coopertars
08-03-23, 15:11
I know they're in here somewhere but I can't find them. Can somebody steer me towards the section or posts about Mongering rules for newbies. I have a friend that's just getting into this hobby of ours and would like to take advantage of all of our wisdom and knowledge as opposed to learning the hard way.http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33100-What-I-learned-as-a-Monger-for-the-past-2-years.-Good-read-for-Newbies

Ruwetysm
10-24-23, 17:05
Gentlemen, be careful out there. Saw a post on Listcrawler 40 and up section. A woman who has been in the business for quite some time. She has retired due to Cook County sting. I searched Cook County and read the post. Sorry I didn't post a link. Be safe.

Emiglio
10-26-23, 08:17
Gentlemen, be careful out there. Saw a post on Listcrawler 40 and up section. A woman who has been in the business for quite some time. She has retired due to Cook County sting. I searched Cook County and read the post. Sorry I didn't post a link. Be safe.Read the 40 plus for the past few days and cannot find the post. Can I please have the poster's name or date and time of post?

TIA.

FPOman1969
10-31-23, 15:44
Anyone notice lately that List crawler (escort Babylon) has really turn to shit lately?

Its 99 percent scam and fake ads now. Obviously this isn't new but it's getting to the point where it's not worth it.

It should be easier than ever to find someone but it's all just nonsense.And they don't let you leave bad comment or reviews anymore.

TickForTack
12-30-23, 03:05
And they don't let you leave bad comment or reviews anymore.Its getting really bad its like no girl on there is even real anymore or not even that they are not good lookign at all.

BourbonRocks
11-05-24, 18:38
I use an iPad for the hobby, safari for the browser. Lately been getting a danger this is a bad site message. Anyone else enjoying the new frustrations from this site and hobby?

Kda Kodiac
01-28-25, 16:40
Just a quick PSA to our friends. You may want to send out a note or call any of your regular Asian providers and wish them a Happy New Year. Would expect something like that goes a long way. I myself enjoys the smile and surprise on their faces or voice when you do that. Just a thought.

MongForLong
01-28-25, 17:43
Just a quick PSA to our friends. You may want to send out a note or call any of your regular Asian providers and wish them a Happy New Year. Would expect something like that goes a long way. I myself enjoys the smile and surprise on their faces or voice when you do that. Just a thought.Very cool.

It is Asian or Chinese New Year? I never know the difference between Chinese and Korean providers LOL.

Wenger
01-29-25, 06:36
Just a quick PSA to our friends. You may want to send out a note or call any of your regular Asian providers and wish them a Happy New Year. Would expect something like that goes a long way. I myself enjoys the smile and surprise on their faces or voice when you do that. Just a thought.


Very cool.

It is Asian or Chinese New Year? I never know the difference between Chinese and Korean providers LOL.Lunar New Year in 2025 starts on Wednesday, Jan. 29, and lasts until the Lantern Festival on Feb. 12, it is also the year of the snake.

FranklySports
01-30-25, 16:04
Just a quick PSA to our friends. You may want to send out a note or call any of your regular Asian providers and wish them a Happy New Year. Would expect something like that goes a long way. I myself enjoys the smile and surprise on their faces or voice when you do that. Just a thought.I found that the price of a cheap bottle of read wine increases exponentially when it is placed in the hands of a favorite.

Kda Kodiac
04-07-25, 10:33
I guess I will take the label with this comment but that is what General is for. What is the deal with the change in AMP house charge. Anywhere from 60 to 80. I do not get it. Originally thought is was difference between Asia and Korean, or service available. Anybody want to shine a light or am I making too much of a deal out of nothing.

ThighSpreader
04-14-25, 08:11
Two things to watch out for. I drive over the road. Stopped in a truck stop, on the way out a nice looking chick asked me if I could give her a ride to the east of town. I was going that way so I said yes. She hops in and we drive about two miles and on come the red lights. I stop knowing I haven't broken traffic laws. The chick was a known hooker and I was about to be arrested and my truck confiscated for aiding prostitution, a county ordnance for giving her a ride. I was lucky that the cop happened to know my brother and let me go or they would have taken my truck so be careful about cruising with a hooker.

Second warning, I have lots of friends on the CB. One told me he saw a lady street walking with a sexy outfit, the dress was so short you could see her ass cheeks and almost her nipples. To let her know he was not a cop, he grabbed her breasts. It was a cop and he was arrested for criminal sexual assault so ask before you touch. If you just touch her it's simple assault but if you touch her tits or rub her snatch or butt, it's sexual assault. Fucking is a natural event, people all do it, so why can't they leave us alone and let us screw.

Rydin
04-14-25, 09:10
Two things to watch out for. I drive over the road. Stopped in a truck stop, on the way out a nice looking chick asked me if I could give her a ride to the east of town. I was going that way so I said yes. She hops in and we drive about two miles and on come the red lights. I stop knowing I haven't broken traffic laws. The chick was a known hooker and I was about to be arrested and my truck confiscated for aiding prostitution, a county ordnance for giving her a ride. I was lucky that the cop happened to know my brother and let me go or they would have taken my truck so be careful about cruising with a hooker.

Second warning, I have lots of friends on the CB. One told me he saw a lady street walking with a sexy outfit, the dress was so short you could see her ass cheeks and almost her nipples. To let her know he was not a cop, he grabbed her breasts. It was a cop and he was arrested for criminal sexual assault so ask before you touch. If you just touch her it's simple assault but if you touch her tits or rub her snatch or butt, it's sexual assault. Fucking is a natural event, people all do it, so why can't they leave us alone and let us screw.You are right that is a law, I used to pick up AMP girls at bus station and airports never had a problem but always in the back of my mind and if you cross state lines it's another charge. Sometimes the fucking your getting isn't worth the fucking your getting.