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TommyLove
06-07-22, 03:14
What was the damage?It's $70 for an hour for the massage. I tipped $60.

You can PM me if you want any other details.

RajuBat
06-08-22, 00:29
Hello seniors, I am a newbie here. I request you guys to please share some value contacts (any in call or massage parlour) My budget is 100 - 200.

I will share my experience in form of a review here.

Thanks in advance.

ClosetPervert9
06-11-22, 02:40
Hello seniors, I am a newbie here. I request you guys to please share some value contacts (any in call or massage parlour) My budget is 100 - 200.

I will share my experience in form of a review here.

Thanks in advance.Be prepared to spend that whole $200.

TommyLove
06-14-22, 15:45
I wanted to add a few more notes to my post about the PM offering:

1) I forgot to mention that I did some web research, and learned that HALF of men in the US over 50 years of age and up to 90% of men older than 80 years experience benign prostatic hyperplasia (BPH), aka "enlarged prostate" syndrome. I had no idea. I thought it was only 5-10% of older men.

2) Apparently, it's due to our sedentary lifestyle and sitting too much. When we were hunters (chasing prey) and farmers, we would move around enough to "pump" the prostate and keep it healthy. But as we age and slow down, our prostates get old and fat too. A regular, vigorous prostate massage can clean it out and re-establish better circulation to keep the tissue healthy.

3) In Thailand, when I last visited, before the pandemic, I learned that they offer prostate and testicle massages (PM / TM) as a regular men's health practice. It's called jabkasai. The typical pattern for a guy living the life in Bangkok is to go and get a PM / TM in the early afternoon, without ejaculating because it was with an older lady with the training, and then head over to a soapy in the late afternoon for a 2 hour bath / nuru / massage / fuck with a hottie. Then to dinner, which would either be with expat friends or one of your bargirl girlfriends who keep telling you her mother's water buffalo died and she needs $300. After dinner, some drinking in strip club bars in Soi Cowboy or Nana Plaza, where you'd find a gal, pay the bar fine, and have her come back to your hotel. If you paid for ST (short time), you'd wake up and rinse and repeat the day before. If you paid for LT (long time), you'd usually get a BBBJ in the morning, followed by breakfast with her at the buffet, where she'd eat enough for the whole day ahead. I tried this pattern, and it was really fun, but as an older man, I simply couldn't keep up the ejaculatory schedule! I did find that the PM / TM acted like a natural Viagra though. And like medical services, having sex in Bangkok is incredibly cheap. The PM / TM is usually $20, the 2 hr soapy is usually $70, and the evening with a bargirl usually sets you back $100 or so. And entire day of sexual stimulation with multiple pops with different women, for about $200. It's almost an order of magnitude cheaper than hobbying in the US.

By the way, in Pattaya, I sought out a lady who was considered to be the top PM / TM expert in Thailand, named Saranya. Like Grace, she's an older lady with significant knowledge. Anyway, even though she had a very thorough website about her work (the site went down during the pandemic, but you can reach her at: https://www.facebook.com/prostate.saranya/) - I found Grace's technique to be about ten times more effective in controlling BPH! BTW, because Saranya is older and the Bangkok market is so competitive, she worked with a younger hottie who did part of the massage.

Finally, I just learned that Grace is retiring when her spa closes down later this year, so the next few months is pretty much your only chance to experience something so rare and unique. Anyway, let's send her off with some positive energy and respect, rather than ragging on her because she's older. Dude, you're no spring chicken either.

Tom.


Grace sent me a PDF to answer any questions about this, um, wellness program. And I've attached it for you reference. If you need, you can also download here: https://ufile.io/zgkxzkmh.

Again, this is for older guys who are dealing with any enlarged prostate issues. If you are looking for a hot young thing for nice sloppy extras, I'd advise looking elsewhere.

She told me to keep this absolutely to yourself, as alternative health practices sometimes draw negative attention. If you want to share this with a friend with BPH issues, maybe print it out and hand it to him.

Also, if you do go to see her for this treatment, I would appreciate a private message from you with how it went for you and what the results were.

Tommy.

Papip
06-17-22, 13:18
Hey guys, new here, was wondering if anyone knew any legit nuru massages in the Bay Area, thanks!

Tendo
06-18-22, 01:32
Aloha all,

I'm visiting sf for a week or so and if anyone could get me the 411 on Asian palace massage in Chinatown it would be most appreciated. Is it worth the visit and what is the damage. ? Are there better times to visit?

Mahalo and Stay safe.

T.

ClosetPervert9
06-19-22, 15:40
Aloha all,

I'm visiting sf for a week or so and if anyone could get me the 411 on Asian palace massage in Chinatown it would be most appreciated. Is it worth the visit and what is the damage. ? Are there better times to visit?

Mahalo and Stay safe.

T.What are you looking for? And are you willing to travel outside of SF? Feel free to pm.

Tendo
06-20-22, 09:25
Aloha all,

Stuck in the Chinatown area, no rental car, and unable to leave area due to circumstances. Specifically looking for info on places in Chinatown. Asian palace spa is convenient,. Could hit green door or other nearby joints. Any and all info appreciated. Always looking for a good deal.

Mahalo and stay safe.

T.

Neo12
06-20-22, 16:54
Aloha all,

Stuck in the Chinatown area, no rental car, and unable to leave area due to circumstances. Specifically looking for info on places in Chinatown. Asian palace spa is convenient,. Could hit green door or other nearby joints. Any and all info appreciated. Always looking for a good deal.

Mahalo and stay safe.

T.Don't go to Asian Palace or Green Door. They only have old and ugly workers.

Tendo
06-24-22, 12:28
Thanks everyone for the 411.

Mahalo and stay safe.

T.

ClosetPervert9
06-24-22, 13:32
Don't go to Asian Palace or Green Door. They only have old and ugly workers.If he's limited to chinatown. He might have to hope for the best. Neo is right however, your chances of an older lady is much higher in chinatown.

HeMooo
06-29-22, 11:27
Anyone know if Sasha at Lux moved anywhere?


I took a stab and can confirm that Lux ha shut down. Looks like covid killed them.

ClosetPervert9
06-30-22, 01:22
Anyone know if Sasha at Lux moved anywhere?Unfortunately, I never met her. Was she the Russian? If so I heard rumor that she was indie working out of the sunset. Not from a teribly reliable source so that may be a dead end. Sorry friend.

AverageJoe520
07-03-22, 17:11
I travel a lot for work and job has landed me in sf for a few weeks, I keep seeing info about empire massage. Can someone DM me donation info? Some people say its great, others say its MEH LOL so I need some insider info.

Neo12
07-04-22, 23:20
I travel a lot for work and job has landed me in sf for a few weeks, I keep seeing info about empire massage. Can someone DM me donation info? Some people say its great, others say its MEH LOL so I need some insider info.Hour is about 6 zero to 8 zero. FS is about 2 oh oh. I don't really recommend it. The workers are Asian and like mid 30's and below average looking. There are no more places in SF with hot workers. Places got shut down a while ago in the big bust. If you want to see some hot Asian workers, drive south about 45 min and check out the San Jose Escort page on here.

ImageCreator
07-10-22, 03:12
Hour is about 6 zero to 8 zero. FS is about 2 oh oh. I don't really recommend it. The workers are Asian and like mid 30's and below average looking. There are no more places in SF with hot workers. Places got shut down a while ago in the big bust. If you want to see some hot Asian workers, drive south about 45 min and check out the San Jose Escort page on here.I actually think Monica at Nikkis isn't bar. Huge rack, as well, amd the service there. God damn!

ClosetPervert9
07-10-22, 16:06
I actually think Monica at Nikkis isn't bar. Huge rack, as well, amd the service there. God damn!Nikki? I don't think I've ever heard of this place. Can you elaborate. You can pm if you'd prefer.

ScabNipples
07-11-22, 00:17
Nikki? I don't think I've ever heard of this place. Can you elaborate. You can pm if you'd prefer.Nikki's Oriental massage on Sutter street.

Venom2090
07-12-22, 00:29
Any recommendations on AMPs and LMPs in downtown SF? Apart from Nikki's of course.

ClosetPervert9
07-12-22, 17:38
Nikki's Oriental massage on Sutter street.Thanks I'll keep this place in Mind. Do you know if they're late night?

ScabNipples
07-12-22, 17:41
Thanks I'll keep this place in Mind. Do you know if they're late night?I think its listed as 10 pm closing. All night go to golden pearl on Taylor street, its 24/7.

ClosetPervert9
07-12-22, 18:51
I think its listed as 10 pm closing. All night go to golden pearl on Taylor street, its 24/7.Golden pearl has been kind at times and rough at other times but overall they keep my business. That said I'm always happy to see a new spots talent and potential.

PervertIndian
07-24-22, 02:01
Read about the golden pearl spa here and wanted to check it out. It's on 629 taylor ave, looks like an old abandoned building with a doorbell at the gate. Chickened out at the last moment and did not go in.

ClosetPervert9
07-29-22, 01:00
Read about the golden pearl spa here and wanted to check it out. It's on 629 taylor ave, looks like an old abandoned building with a doorbell at the gate. Chickened out at the last moment and did not go in.What was the point of this post?

Sexaholic777
07-30-22, 22:24
Anyone knows BIBI from the La Area?

She is working up here. Late 30's, angelic body goood fake boobs. Great GFE, BBBJ and cfs for about $240. Lost her digits. Please help LOL. I got some good trades.

Zach29
07-31-22, 18:51
I think its listed as 10 pm closing. All night go to golden pearl on Taylor street, its 24/7.Yes, I confirm it is open 24/7.

I went to Golden Pearl Spa at 5 am. Angelina was a very good choice, awesome face and body.

LawLisKid
08-03-22, 17:05
I actually think Monica at Nikkis isn't bar. Huge rack, as well, amd the service there. God damn!What was the total donation and service being offered? You can PM if you'd like. Thank you.

WilsonnBennett
08-04-22, 12:46
Anyone got a good recommendation for first time in SF or the bay? Looking for massage with extras or an agency.

ClosetPervert9
08-06-22, 05:32
Anyone knows BIBI from the La Area?

She is working up here. Late 30's, angelic body goood fake boobs. Great GFE, BBBJ and cfs for about $240. Lost her digits. Please help LOL. I got some good trades.Korean Bibi that lives in la but usually works in Vegas? I think she's working through an agency not an AMP if we're talking about the same BiBi.

TommyLove
08-07-22, 15:53
So WellCare is closing down. And if you're a fan of Grace's therapeutic prostate massage technique. Which has worked to fix my BPH problem. This is your last chance to experience it.

A few notes:

1) I'm not exaggerating about her PM technique, it was actually quite miraculous for me. I'm not a shill, I just want my elderly brothers-in-arms to get some holistic treatment for their enlarged prostates. It actually worked, and it could help you avoid surgery. Plus, she gives one of the best deep tissue massages I've had.

2) The place is closing down. Due to the impact of COVID. Sometime in September. They've basically been open only to service the rent obligation, at break even. The end of an era.

3) if you're new, you can probably score a session with Kiki, who also works there, by begging Grace after your session. But Angie is absolutely regulars only.

I've had lovely experiences there over the years, with several of the providers there. Good times, good mammaries. Truly the end of an era for a place deserving of the moniker "MILF Central".

Finally, I request no age-shaming or "you must be gay" comments. Remember, karma means when you get older, your prostate will swell to the size of a grapefruit and you'll be running to the loo every 20 minutes.

And let's let Grace retire with some dignity okay? Maybe post "thank you for your service" 🤣 🤣 🤣.

Note: it's located on Geary near 12th, not far from Lamps Plus.

BlackGuySex
08-11-22, 00:42
Working in area this week, decided to have some fun, walked to Bay st saw the massage open sign, I came in and was introduced to Yoyo. She was awesome. She's hot. Hot body, hot smile and very hot service. I decided to go later in the evening so it was a bit more discrete. When I walked in she came out of the back rooms wearing a sexy skin tight black lace dress. Beautiful hair. She took me to a room and gave me a somewhat decent massage. She is very sexy. I said "everything" and we went at it nonstop for the rest of the session. She really gets in to it and is very vocal in telling you how much she likes it too! Many delights on the plate, I have some favorites and she was happy to oblige. I will come back, Enjoy!

ClosetPervert9
08-11-22, 12:48
Working in area this week, decided to have some fun, walked to Bay st saw the massage open sign, I came in and was introduced to Yoyo. She was awesome. She's hot. Hot body, hot smile and very hot service. I decided to go later in the evening so it was a bit more discrete. When I walked in she came out of the back rooms wearing a sexy skin tight black lace dress. Beautiful hair. She took me to a room and gave me a somewhat decent massage. She is very sexy. I said "everything" and we went at it nonstop for the rest of the session. She really gets in to it and is very vocal in telling you how much she likes it too! Many delights on the plate, I have some favorites and she was happy to oblige. I will come back, Enjoy!Thanks for the report. How old would you say yoyo is?

JanFromNoma
08-13-22, 22:01
Hi,

I am visiting SF and staying at Menlo Park. Any FS massage parlors / apt near by? Any recommendations? I like Korean agencies but not ready to send DL for verification. You can also send me PM if you are fine with it.

Thanks guys for your help.

Jizzm3
08-14-22, 07:23
Hi,

I am visiting SF and staying at Menlo Park. Any FS massage parlors / apt near by? Any recommendations? I like Korean agencies but not ready to send DL for verification. You can also send me PM if you are fine with it.

Thanks guys for your help.Menlo park is not SF dude, check the SJ forum.

ClosetPervert9
08-14-22, 13:06
Hi,

I am visiting SF and staying at Menlo Park. Any FS massage parlors / apt near by? Any recommendations? I like Korean agencies but not ready to send DL for verification. You can also send me PM if you are fine with it.

Thanks guys for your help.Menlo Park is pretty far down the peninsula. You might find something but your best bet will come if you're mobile. If you have a car you're not far from San Jose. You can still drive to SF but San Jose is probably an easier trek and as jizz said, there is a san jose forum that could help you.

JanFromNoma
08-14-22, 19:01
Menlo Park is pretty far down the peninsula. You might find something but your best bet will come if you're mobile. If you have a car you're not far from San Jose. You can still drive to SF but San Jose is probably an easier trek and as jizz said, there is a san jose forum that could help you.Thanks guys. I am in process of screening peach cafe for San Jose. How is donation structure? Thanks again.

ClosetPervert9
08-15-22, 02:59
Thanks guys. I am in process of screening peach cafe for San Jose. How is donation structure? Thanks again.I've not dealt with them though they are on my radar. I'd (probably we'd) be really appreciative if you came back and shared your experience with them afterwards.

Johnny Shakes
08-15-22, 06:25
Anyone know this which is the best Massage Parlor?

Neo12
08-15-22, 15:31
Thanks guys. I am in process of screening peach cafe for San Jose. How is donation structure? Thanks again.Hourly rate is two eighty. You should post and look for info on the San Jose Massage Parlor thread.

Fancoll420
08-15-22, 17:50
Hi guys, I am looking for my first MP experience and just wonder are there places around the Bay Area that provide BJ or BBBJ? Or I need to look elsewhere?

ClosetPervert9
08-15-22, 21:45
Hi guys, I am looking for my first MP experience and just wonder are there places around the Bay Area that provide BJ or BBBJ? Or I need to look elsewhere?Yo might be able to get BBBJ at a mp but in all honesty you're better off looking for an indie provider if you want a sure-ish thing.

Fancoll420
08-15-22, 23:15
Yo might be able to get BBBJ at a mp but in all honesty you're better off looking for an indie provider if you want a sure-ish thing.How do I find them tho? What do you know about the range of donations for those services?

Mister Rogers
08-16-22, 00:12
I prefer to play it safe and want to know if it's still possible to just get a Happy Ending at the Golden Pearl for the hr rate?

Thanks!

Mister Rogers
08-16-22, 00:28
I'm in town for one night and want to play it safe. Is a happy ending still possible at the Golden Pearl for hr rate plus tip?

Thanks!

ScabNipples
08-16-22, 22:23
I'm in town for one night and want to play it safe. Is a happy ending still possible at the Golden Pearl for hr rate plus tip?

Thanks!Yes, most likely is available there.

Neo12
08-17-22, 18:07
How do I find them tho? What do you know about the range of donations for those services?Try to search on The Erotic Review website online. But the prices can be expensive.

TommyLove
08-24-22, 02:12
Hey everyone,

I've learned that the final closure is happening in late September. If you'd like for any of the ladies to contact you later, especially Winnie after she returns from China, please fill out this form: https://bit.ly/wellcare-connect.

Grace asked me to extend a thank you to all of their patrons over the years. You can PM me any questions and I'll relay to her.

End of an era guys!


So WellCare is closing down. And if you're a fan of Grace's therapeutic prostate massage technique. Which has worked to fix my BPH problem. This is your last chance to experience it.

A few notes:

1) I'm not exaggerating about her PM technique, it was actually quite miraculous for me. I'm not a shill, I just want my elderly brothers-in-arms to get some holistic treatment for their enlarged prostates. It actually worked, and it could help you avoid surgery. Plus, she gives one of the best deep tissue massages I've had.

2) The place is closing down. Due to the impact of COVID. Sometime in September. They've basically been open only to service the rent obligation, at break even. The end of an era.

3) if you're new, you can probably score a session with Kiki, who also works there, by begging Grace after your session. But Angie is absolutely regulars only.

I've had lovely experiences there over the years, with several of the providers there. Good times, good mammaries. Truly the end of an era for a place deserving of the moniker "MILF Central".

Finally, I request no age-shaming or "you must be gay" comments. Remember, karma means when you get older, your prostate will swell to the size of a grapefruit and you'll be running to the loo every 20 minutes.

And let's let Grace retire with some dignity okay? Maybe post "thank you for your service" 🤣 🤣 🤣.

Note: it's located on Geary near 12th, not far from Lamps Plus.

RockNRoll72
08-27-22, 18:48
Going to be in SF for the day (flying in for a morning meeting then flying out that night) and going to have quite a few hours to kill. Any intel on any black or latina providers worth checking out? I won't have a car so preferably looking for someone within the city as opposed to me having to go out to Oakland or surrounding areas. Independent or massage place is ok. DM me if you have any leads.

Stay safe out there.

- RnR.

ClosetPervert9
08-28-22, 01:39
Going to be in SF for the day (flying in for a morning meeting then flying out that night) and going to have quite a few hours to kill. Any intel on any black or latina providers worth checking out? I won't have a car so preferably looking for someone within the city as opposed to me having to go out to Oakland or surrounding areas. Independent or massage place is ok. DM me if you have any leads.

Stay safe out there.

- RnR.Give goden pearl a spin and when you get there ask to see the line up.

ClosetPervert9
08-28-22, 01:45
Hey everyone,

I've learned that the final closure is happening in late September. If you'd like for any of the ladies to contact you later, especially Winnie after she returns from China, please fill out this form: https://bit.ly/wellcare-connect.

Grace asked me to extend a thank you to all of their patrons over the years. You can PM me any questions and I'll relay to her.

End of an era guys!What is the long version of that url?

ImageCreator
08-28-22, 07:41
What is the long version of that url?The link is fine. I clicked it. It just takes you to a Google doc to submit your info if you want them to reach out.

TommyLove
08-29-22, 06:11
What is the long version of that url?https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSdTE6mxJe-xJQyT26a0i4_T44qYXhRe0wbHU3IY2zlnDgYC1Q/viewform

TomThumb1232
08-29-22, 17:36
So WellCare is closing down. And if you're a fan of Grace's therapeutic prostate massage technique. Which has worked to fix my BPH problem. This is your last chance to experience it.

A few notes:

1) I'm not exaggerating about her PM technique, it was actually quite miraculous for me. I'm not a shill, I just want my elderly brothers-in-arms to get some holistic treatment for their enlarged prostates. It actually worked, and it could help you avoid surgery. Plus, she gives one of the best deep tissue massages I've had.

2) The place is closing down. Due to the impact of COVID. Sometime in September. They've basically been open only to service the rent obligation, at break even. The end of an era.

3) if you're new, you can probably score a session with Kiki, who also works there, by begging Grace after your session. But Angie is absolutely regulars only.

I've had lovely experiences there over the years, with several of the providers there. Good times, good mammaries. Truly the end of an era for a place deserving of the moniker "MILF Central".

Finally, I request no age-shaming or "you must be gay" comments. Remember, karma means when you get older, your prostate will swell to the size of a grapefruit and you'll be running to the loo every 20 minutes..How much do you tip? Are we supposed to ask for prostate play? I've only gone Asian massage parlors a few times and I've always been asked for tip while I'm being massaged.

RockNRoll72
08-31-22, 00:42
Hey everyone,

I've learned that the final closure is happening in late September. If you'd like for any of the ladies to contact you later, especially Winnie after she returns from China, please fill out this form: https://bit.ly/wellcare-connect.

Grace asked me to extend a thank you to all of their patrons over the years. You can PM me any questions and I'll relay to her.

End of an era guys!So glad I caught your post in time. This spot sounds incredible. I'll be in town next week, looks like I'll have to stop by. Any recommendations on who to ask for?

Jimmyliu
09-01-22, 02:15
So glad I caught your post in time. This spot sounds incredible. I'll be in town next week, looks like I'll have to stop by. Any recommendations on who to ask for?I believe you can only get Grace if you're not a regular.

RockNRoll72
09-02-22, 12:35
I believe you can only get Grace if you're not a regular.Is that good or bad?

Runon99
09-02-22, 16:32
I believe you can only get Grace if you're not a regular.


Is that good or bad?I guess that depends on how much you like Grace. My personal feeling is, this place is about to close and a first time visitor would have close to zero chance of seeing anyone by Grace, so why bother?

My own history with Wellcare is this: it was among the first places I ever went when I started hobbying. I think they advertised heavily on CL at the time. I probably went 4-5 times and never saw anyone but Grace, although there were good reviews of the other girls (like Winnie and Angie?) on RB. Grace gave a solid, strong massage and she must have been in great shape because her butt felt like steel when felt up during the finish. Her HJ, at least for me, was too strong and hurried. She would go slower / softer on request, but not for too long. Anyway, I did like her but she was a little on the older side and I eventually gravitated to other places.

This was around 2008-2009 ish.

I went back once in 2020, possibly during the time when most shops were still officially closed. My provider was older than I was hoping for but did a solid job all around. I mentioned that I hadn't been there in a long time and the last time I was there I had seen Grace. She smiled and said "I am Grace! It was a nice moment of nostalgia and I was grateful for the service during a difficult time.

I guess it depends on what kind of experience you're looking for, but I personally wouldn't recommend it now to a visitor.

LawLisKid
09-02-22, 19:53
Any recommendations for visitors that are located inside SF?


I guess that depends on how much you like Grace. My personal feeling is, this place is about to close and a first time visitor would have close to zero chance of seeing anyone by Grace, so why bother?

My own history with Wellcare is this: it was among the first places I ever went when I started hobbying. I think they advertised heavily on CL at the time. I probably went 4-5 times and never saw anyone but Grace, although there were good reviews of the other girls (like Winnie and Angie?) on RB. Grace gave a solid, strong massage and she must have been in great shape because her butt felt like steel when felt up during the finish. Her HJ, at least for me, was too strong and hurried. She would go slower / softer on request, but not for too long. Anyway, I did like her but she was a little on the older side and I eventually gravitated to other places.

This was around 2008-2009 ish.

I went back once in 2020, possibly during the time when most shops were still officially closed. My provider was older than I was hoping for but did a solid job all around. I mentioned that I hadn't been there in a long time and the last time I was there I had seen Grace. She smiled and said "I am Grace! It was a nice moment of nostalgia and I was grateful for the service during a difficult time.

I guess it depends on what kind of experience you're looking for, but I personally wouldn't recommend it now to a visitor.

Ninhphu
09-03-22, 00:20
Working in area this week, decided to have some fun, walked to Bay st saw the massage open sign, I came in and was introduced to Yoyo. She was awesome. She's hot. Hot body, hot smile and very hot service. I decided to go later in the evening so it was a bit more discrete. When I walked in she came out of the back rooms wearing a sexy skin tight black lace dress. Beautiful hair. She took me to a room and gave me a somewhat decent massage. She is very sexy. I said "everything" and we went at it nonstop for the rest of the session. She really gets in to it and is very vocal in telling you how much she likes it too! Many delights on the plate, I have some favorites and she was happy to oblige. I will come back, Enjoy!What the location of this place?

Runon99
09-04-22, 17:38
Any recommendations for visitors that are located inside SF?My number one recommendation for you as a user with a handful of posts is to file some reports to build up a little credibility. I see that all four of your posts (as of this moment) are asking for information. The first two are from months ago looking for help in Las Vegas and New York. No reports filed after those trips. People are less likely to want to help you if all you do is sponge from veterans without contributing anything. That goes for the other review site you've recently joined as well.

Second recommendation is to read through many pages of reports to read about places that have been visited and use Google to get more info about specific places you see mentioned. You can learn a lot from doing your own research based on what you read here and elsewhere.

And along with that would be the next recommendation to be more specific with your requests. Asking such a broad question as you did could be theoretically beneficial in getting a wide swathe of responses and options, but more likely it will just be ignored and you'll learn nothing. Something like "I will be staying near Union Square and looking for FS" or ". Near Fisherman's Wharf and looking for a HJ" or whatever could get an actual answer.

RockNRoll72
09-04-22, 17:45
I guess that depends on how much you like Grace. My personal feeling is, this place is about to close and a first time visitor would have close to zero chance of seeing anyone by Grace, so why bother?

My own history with Wellcare is this: it was among the first places I ever went when I started hobbying. I think they advertised heavily on CL at the time. I probably went 4-5 times and never saw anyone but Grace, although there were good reviews of the other girls (like Winnie and Angie?) on RB. Grace gave a solid, strong massage and she must have been in great shape because her butt felt like steel when felt up during the finish. Her HJ, at least for me, was too strong and hurried. She would go slower / softer on request, but not for too long. Anyway, I did like her but she was a little on the older side and I eventually gravitated to other places.

This was around 2008-2009 ish.

I went back once in 2020, possibly during the time when most shops were still officially closed. My provider was older than I was hoping for but did a solid job all around. I mentioned that I hadn't been there in a long time and the last time I was there I had seen Grace. She smiled and said "I am Grace! It was a nice moment of nostalgia and I was grateful for the service during a difficult time.

I guess it depends on what kind of experience you're looking for, but I personally wouldn't recommend it now to a visitor.Thanks for your two cents, Runon.

You bring up some good points and I may end up exploring other options there then in that case. If you have any recommendations, feel free to DM me and I'll do the same if you're ever in LA! I'm actually flying up to SF for work and only have a few hours to kill before I need to fly back again so I'm looking for something decent (either massage or ending) for a new client such as myself.

- RnR.

ClosetPervert9
09-06-22, 10:51
My number one recommendation for you as a user with a handful of posts is to file some reports to build up a little credibility. I see that all four of your posts (as of this moment) are asking for information. The first two are from months ago looking for help in Las Vegas and New York. No reports filed after those trips. People are less likely to want to help you if all you do is sponge from veterans without contributing anything. That goes for the other review site you've recently joined as well.

Second recommendation is to read through many pages of reports to read about places that have been visited and use Google to get more info about specific places you see mentioned. You can learn a lot from doing your own research based on what you read here and elsewhere.

And along with that would be the next recommendation to be more specific with your requests. Asking such a broad question as you did could be theoretically beneficial in getting a wide swathe of responses and options, but more likely it will just be ignored and you'll learn nothing. Something like "I will be staying near Union Square and looking for FS" or ". Near Fisherman's Wharf and looking for a HJ" or whatever could get an actual answer.Couldn't agree more!

Gibson1970
09-08-22, 14:21
Senior Member from TN where the massage scene is dead. Was going to be in the SF area for a visit so I checked the local Forum, read, re-read and settled on the Golden Pearl as it was nearby. Rang the doorbell and an Asian lady around 30 answered the door. She was petite, long black hair with a nice set of man made tits. $60 to the house for a light rubbing with no teasing. Then asked for what I wanted. I told her and we agreed on the price and left happy. Just wanted to say I appreciate everyone who leaves valuable info on the site. If anyone is in TN, let me know.

ClosetPervert9
09-09-22, 16:07
Senior Member from TN where the massage scene is dead. Was going to be in the SF area for a visit so I checked the local Forum, read, re-read and settled on the Golden Pearl as it was nearby. Rang the doorbell and an Asian lady around 30 answered the door. She was petite, long black hair with a nice set of man made tits. $60 to the house for a light rubbing with no teasing. Then asked for what I wanted. I told her and we agreed on the price and left happy. Just wanted to say I appreciate everyone who leaves valuable info on the site. If anyone is in TN, let me know.Glad you had a good experience. If you're in Memphis, I'd say that Pearl is similar to Tokyo. So I know the locals complain about the price but if you don't mind paying the price you paid at pearl, then don't let the locals scare you aware. They ask high but I offered roughly pearl prices and I got EVERYTHING and some post session GFE. Then they took me and introduced me to the rest of the staff so if I was a local, they'd definitely know me and would take good care of me. As always YMMV.

VisibleNinja
09-10-22, 16:39
Intrigued by Golden Pearl. Will have to investigate next weekend.

ClosetPervert9
09-11-22, 00:25
Intrigued by Golden Pearl. Will have to investigate next weekend.Be sure to report back.

ClosetPervert9
09-11-22, 00:36
I made a late night visit to the pearl a couple of weeks ago. I think it was a weekend. I did my usual spin around the block and walked to the door. Once let in I was greeted by a stunning young thang with man mades. Racially ambiguous. Latina, Indian, Arabic I would'v ebeen none the wiser. She was thin but a 10/10 in the face! I was offered her but instead I requested a line up. I saw someone who looked a little out of place. We went back I discovered she didn't really speak english so we used my limited spanish her limited english and some app talk. Showered solo, followed by a decent session. She was into it butt I've had better performances. I discovered her giant ass was fake but so soft. I can still look down and see the impact waves. Afterwards she gave me a massage and it was a good 8/10 massage.

We talked she's from Columbia but touring the states and was in San Francisco for just one day to see what she thought of the scene. She said she didn't like it and it ssounded like she wouldn't be back. If I had my burner pphone I wouldve gotten her details so I could see her in another city another time. Once time was up we talked for another 5 minutes or so, I asked to play with her ass one time and you can tell she loved the ass attention so much so she gave me a lapdance afterwards and we ended up going past time by about 10-15 minutes. All in all, the pearl once again didn't fial me. Writing this review makes me think I may go today. Unfortunately none of you will get her as she's gone and isn't' interested in coming back but you may find something just as magical. Good luck and happy hunting.

ClosetPervert9
09-11-22, 16:05
Does anybody have any intel on Paradise? Any pearl vs paradise comparisons?

WhileImSingle
09-12-22, 17:17
I made a late night visit to the pearl a couple of weeks ago. I think it was a weekend. I did my usual spin around the block and walked to the door. Once let in I was greeted by a stunning young thang with man mades. Racially ambiguous. Latina, Indian, Arabic I would'v ebeen none the wiser. She was thin but a 10/10 in the face! I was offered her but instead I requested a line up. I saw someone who looked a little out of place. We went back I discovered she didn't really speak english so we used my limited spanish her limited english and some app talk. Showered solo, followed by a decent session. She was into it butt I've had better performances. I discovered her giant ass was fake but so soft. I can still look down and see the impact waves. Afterwards she gave me a massage and it was a good 8/10 massage.

We talked she's from Columbia but touring the states and was in San Francisco for just one day to see what she thought of the scene. She said she didn't like it and it ssounded like she wouldn't be back. If I had my burner pphone I wouldve gotten her details so I could see her in another city another time. Once time was up we talked for another 5 minutes or so, I asked to play with her ass one time and you can tell she loved the ass attention so much so she gave me a lapdance afterwards and we ended up going past time by about 10-15 minutes. All in all, the pearl once again didn't fial me..I've been wanting to check our pearl but don't what to expect. Overall what was the damage?

ClosetPervert9
09-13-22, 00:59
I've been wanting to check our pearl but don't what to expect. Overall what was the damage?I'll be honest. Not to sound like mr. Deep pockets but I honestly don't know. I think its 60 to the house but I don't remember what I paid to her I think it depends on the girl but expect to pay more than an AMP.

Tk2015
09-16-22, 18:30
I'm not from SF but visit semi regularly, so I've tried a couple places recently to understand the scene, here are the reports:

Cindy at Laurel Health. Interior of the place is surprisingly nice compared to the exterior. Very modern and spacious rooms with massage table in the middle. Cindy is probably early 40's-ish, nice full Bs maybe C's with a little pooch but overall skinnier. Cindy started off with a nice rub of my back, Swedish style. As she worked her way down to my legs I brushed her inner thighs to give her an idea which worked. Quick flip over and sensual massage. After I finished, she wiped me down and had me turn back over to complete my 30 min massage. Would recommend! Oh, also, as she was masked up, I couldn't see her face. $50 for 30, $60 tip.

Yoyo at North Beach. Yoyo is an older 50-60+year old mature looking woman. Larger all around. Overall not my type. She.

Gave a massage for 10-15 minutes on the back. Would not really call it teasing but she did poke the sack a couple of times when massaging my ass. On the flip she rubbed my chest and worked her way down. Hammer away with a massaging of the sack. Finish. Probably won't repeat, not my style. $45 for 30, $60 tip.

VisibleNinja
09-17-22, 22:21
Intrigued by Golden Pearl. Will have to investigate next weekend.Hit up Golden Pearl on Friday. There's no signage out front, so you have to know the house number to find the place. The girl who let me in was Latina. I asked to "meet everybody" and she rounded up the other girls for a lineup. I picked Jessica. She is Vietnamese, about 5'5", all natural, probably in her 30's. There was one other Asian girl; the rest were probably Latina. Jessica me to a tiny room that was nearly pitch-dark, or rather my eyes were still adjusting from coming off the street. It was dim red light. The room has a shower so it's nice not having to shuffle down a hallway.

It was the usual parlor fare: Pay for time ($60 to the house), get comfortable and then she rubs me down. On the flip, she asked me what I want and I said I wanted to go all the way. Cost was $$. Handed Jessica two Benjies and she stripped down. Let me play with her tits while she gave me a CBJ. Started with her on top, then we switched to mish. It wasn't mind-blowing or anything, but I still managed to bust. She showered off and then I took my turn getting cleaned up. Jessica led me out to the lobby (there's an ATM LOL) and then out the front door.

Intrigued by the place. I think a followup visit is in order.

ClosetPervert9
09-18-22, 01:29
I'm not from SF but visit semi regularly, so I've tried a couple places recently to understand the scene, here are the reports:

Cindy at Laurel Health. Interior of the place is surprisingly nice compared to the exterior. Very modern and spacious rooms with massage table in the middle. Cindy is probably early 40's-ish, nice full Bs maybe C's with a little pooch but overall skinnier. Cindy started off with a nice rub of my back, Swedish style. As she worked her way down to my legs I brushed her inner thighs to give her an idea which worked. Quick flip over and sensual massage. After I finished, she wiped me down and had me turn back over to complete my 30 min massage. Would recommend! Oh, also, as she was masked up, I couldn't see her face. $50 for 30, $60 tip.

Yoyo at North Beach. Yoyo is an older 50-60+year old mature looking woman. Larger all around. Overall not my type. She.

Gave a massage for 10-15 minutes on the back. Would not really call it teasing but she did poke the sack a couple of times when massaging my ass. On the flip she rubbed my chest and worked her way down. Hammer away with a massaging of the sack. Finish. Probably won't repeat, not my style. $45 for 30, $60 tip.Thanks for reporting back and safe travels.

Benny354
09-18-22, 21:34
Hello I'm new to this type of stuff and was wondering if any of why'all could pm with any good AMPs around Bay Area, Walnut Creek, Concord or Sj? Looking for like CBJ or FS type places. Tried to pm someone but they're inbox got full LOL. Any help would be appreciated thanks.

ImageCreator
09-19-22, 11:30
Hello I'm new to this type of stuff and was wondering if any of why'all could pm with any good AMPs around Bay Area, Walnut Creek, Concord or Sj? Looking for like CBJ or FS type places. Tried to pm someone but they're inbox got full LOL. Any help would be appreciated thanks.Best place in the bay is Great Massage in Concord. You're welcome.

Neo12
09-19-22, 12:22
Hello I'm new to this type of stuff and was wondering if any of why'all could pm with any good AMPs around Bay Area, Walnut Creek, Concord or Sj? Looking for like CBJ or FS type places. Tried to pm someone but they're inbox got full LOL. Any help would be appreciated thanks.Try Body Health Center in Saratoga. Go on a Wednesday or Friday and ask for Selina. Another place is Hummingbird Spa in Cupertino. All other places mostly have just older ugly Asian ladies.

Runon99
09-20-22, 00:45
Hello I'm new to this type of stuff and was wondering if any of why'all could pm with any good AMPs around Bay Area, Walnut Creek, Concord or Sj? Looking for like CBJ or FS type places. Tried to pm someone but they're inbox got full LOL. Any help would be appreciated thanks.Here is some more help, Benny. This website breaks up the Bay Area into multiple different sections. This page you posted on is really just for San Francisco proper (even though many of us reading this page also frequent other parts of the area). Walnut Creek and Concord would be covered by the Oakland / East Bay page and San Jose would be covered by the San Jose page. And if that's not enough, there is also a San Mateo page which is very lightly trafficked but in theory covers San Mateo and I guess the rest of the Peninsula north of SJ and there is a North Bay page as well.

And FYI, if you're interested in AAMPs, which is where the best looking Korean women with the most open menus are usually found, they are most often discussed in the Escort Section of the San Jose page, even though many of them are found in or close to San Mateo.

Basically, if you do a lot of reading of all of the sections I mentioned above, you can learn a lot. You're welcome.

Stang613
09-21-22, 23:50
My recent SFO report. I had read on here about Golden Pearl, but had done some research and nearby Empire Spa looked like a similar option.

First visit was to Empire, got Ruby from Argentina, attractive, straight to business, overall good experience.

Next to Pearl, got Cindy from Panama, just okay.

Last to Empire, got Ana from Thailand, she was grea in all aspects, Funtime, massage, etc.

Minor side note, Empire has a better shower setup IMO.

So overall, Empire seemed better anecdotally.

CoffeeKingg
09-22-22, 15:18
Last to Empire, got Ana from Thailand, she was grea in all aspects, Funtime, massage, etc.Real high quality massage? Looking for someone that's like 9/10 on massage, did you ask for a lineup or request Ana?

CoffeeKingg
09-22-22, 15:23
I've been wanting a mutually naked sensual massage with limited (even none) extras. Does a place / provider like this exist? I've had so many bad massages that just kill the mood.

TomThumb1232
09-22-22, 18:00
My recent SFO report. I had read on here about Golden Pearl, but had done some research and nearby Empire Spa looked like a similar option.

First visit was to Empire, got Ruby from Argentina, attractive, straight to business, overall good experience.

Next to Pearl, got Cindy from Panama, just okay.

Last to Empire, got Ana from Thailand, she was grea in all aspects, Funtime, massage, etc.

Minor side note, Empire has a better shower setup IMO.

So overall, Empire seemed better anecdotally.Do you ask for lineup or do they normally send someone randomly?

Llama256
09-22-22, 20:26
Ok, so how do I report LE activity without it getting deleted? People have a right to know.

Runon99
09-22-22, 21:49
Ok, so how do I report LE activity without it getting deleted? People have a right to know.Anything you post will get moderated anyway, so just post what you want and see what happens.

Neo12
09-23-22, 20:56
Do you ask for lineup or do they normally send someone randomly?For Empire, there's maybe 2 or 3 girls sitting on the big couch in the lobby to choose from. Last time I went to Empire awhile ago, they only had older Asian girls. Like maybe mid to late 30's.

LicknItGood200
09-23-22, 23:34
Called Anna and girls were available. Rang the bell and lined up all Latinas. Different makes and models so I drew Cindy the 20 year old Panamanian. Nice body small B sized boobs, round booty and pretty face. Told her daty she responded "no" she. I get up to leave then she says "yes" but I didn't know about the saran wrap though. Damn. Sucked right through the wrap and she was squirming and then came. Best CBJ I've had though the suction was on point. $260 hr. She was inexperienced so it got stupid and she went for he. Nope suck it more I say. She said "me no understand" so I get up then she said wait wait. Got another Jimmie and went to town and jr. rose back up. Went doggy and smacked that ass til she said stop. Got good rhythm then blew. Will not repeat but there are nice looking latinas and all different sizes.

KnoxNenters
09-25-22, 17:15
Hi. I'm visiting from Seattle soon, and am seeking an authentic Japanese FS provider who happens to have massage skills, preferably in SF. Not an older gal, if possible. But not a newbie, either. In the past, I've had a few encounters with Japanese women. I prefer their reserved personality and yet straightforward sexual drive. Someone fit, not unattractive, but from Japan. There's plenty of imposters out there. I don't know why some Chinese girls play the Japanese card, but I've seen it, and the facade quickly wears off.

Please PM me recommendations, and I'll be happy to share Seattle intel. Although at the moment, there are very few, if any Japanese providers at the AMPs there. Not even any independents. I think in general, culturally, it's not their thing to massage men and have sex for money. At least for Americans.

Please help a visitor out, especially senior members. Thanks.

Stang613
09-25-22, 23:37
Do you ask for lineup or do they normally send someone randomly?In either, I got the impression a line-up could be arranged, the layout of Empire seemed more amenable to such, but early at the Pearl most apparently were asleep and at each I just took the random and it was fine.

ClosetPervert9
09-26-22, 01:04
Called Anna and girls were available. Rang the bell and lined up all Latinas. Different makes and models so I drew Cindy the 20 year old Panamanian. Nice body small B sized boobs, round booty and pretty face. Told her daty she responded "no" she. I get up to leave then she says "yes" but I didn't know about the saran wrap though. Damn. Sucked right through the wrap and she was squirming and then came. Best CBJ I've had though the suction was on point. $260 hr. She was inexperienced so it got stupid and she went for he. Nope suck it more I say. She said "me no understand" so I get up then she said wait wait. Got another Jimmie and went to town and jr. rose back up. Went doggy and smacked that ass til she said stop. Got good rhythm then blew. Will not repeat but there are nice looking latinas and all different sizes.Sounds like an unfortunate draw, but thanks for the report. Sounds like she is one to avoid but DATY isn't a standard menu item there.

Idiot Boy
09-29-22, 20:31
Hello. Visiting San Francisco in a week or two. Can anyone recommend a place? Would like a good full hour massage with grazing / teasing, girl who is easy on the eyes. Don't need FS. HE is enough. Thanks!

NewToTheGame16
09-30-22, 02:25
Tried it, got the line up place was dead at 10 ish. Picked out someone who was from brazil supposedly. Black dress long black hair decent boobs slimish.

Tbh it was very robotic and vanilla. No kissing, she acts tired and totally out of it. I never came cause when a girl sucks at fucking it just bores me after a second. No bbj all covered. Pussy felt loose af too. She asked me if good at end I said okay and left it at that, she knew I knew how bad she was.

The only plus is a lot of girls, I would say 2 others that were pretty of about 10 (I like slim young girls) but they need to get rid of the one I saw. Waste of 260 plus I think I got ripped off about 15-20 minutes probs but I was ready to go anyways. Being young I am picky and my fwbs are a million times more fun than this chick.

SmellsSoGood
09-30-22, 18:05
Tried it, got the line up place was dead at 10 ish. Picked out someone who was from brazil supposedly. Black dress long black hair decent boobs slimish.

Tbh it was very robotic and vanilla. No kissing, she acts tired and totally out of it. I never came cause when a girl sucks at fucking it just bores me after a second. No bbj all covered. Pussy felt loose af too. She asked me if good at end I said okay and left it at that, she knew I knew how bad she was.

The only plus is a lot of girls, I would say 2 others that were pretty of about 10 (I like slim young girls) but they need to get rid of the one I saw. Waste of 260 plus I think I got ripped off about 15-20 minutes probs but I was ready to go anyways. Being young I am picky and my fwbs are a million times more fun than this chick.LFK / DFK sort of rare in my MP experience. Sucks to hear that you pulled a dud tho. I'm looking forward to trying this place, hopefully I have some good luck.

Thanks for the intel tho!

ClosetPervert9
10-01-22, 07:38
Tried it, got the line up place was dead at 10 ish. Picked out someone who was from brazil supposedly. Black dress long black hair decent boobs slimish.

Tbh it was very robotic and vanilla. No kissing, she acts tired and totally out of it. I never came cause when a girl sucks at fucking it just bores me after a second. No bbj all covered. Pussy felt loose af too. She asked me if good at end I said okay and left it at that, she knew I knew how bad she was.

The only plus is a lot of girls, I would say 2 others that were pretty of about 10 (I like slim young girls) but they need to get rid of the one I saw. Waste of 260 plus I think I got ripped off about 15-20 minutes probs but I was ready to go anyways. Being young I am picky and my fwbs are a million times more fun than this chick.Sorry to hear you had a bad time but kissing is VERY rare in the bayarea in these places. If you want to kiss, you're probably better off going through a k org. You'll have a much better go at it for roughly the same price.

Feffil2
10-01-22, 20:20
Tried it, got the line up place was dead at 10 ish. Picked out someone who was from brazil supposedly. Black dress long black hair decent boobs slimish.

Tbh it was very robotic and vanilla. No kissing, she acts tired and totally out of it. I never came cause when a girl sucks at fucking it just bores me after a second. No bbj all covered. Pussy felt loose af too. She asked me if good at end I said okay and left it at that, she knew I knew how bad she was.

The only plus is a lot of girls, I would say 2 others that were pretty of about 10 (I like slim young girls) but they need to get rid of the one I saw. Waste of 260 plus I think I got ripped off about 15-20 minutes probs but I was ready to go anyways. Being young I am picky and my fwbs are a million times more fun than this chick.Same fat Chinese guy seems to be parked in front of the Olympic club on Sutter every morning around 5-6 in the morning. I've thought about directing my GP complaints to him but I don't want him to whip out any Kung Fu.

ElPokeman007
10-07-22, 18:22
Stop at Nikki's in SF after 2 years hiatus, was told they have made some changes, now prices increase from $200 to 250. I paid the $200 before FS and $50+$5 Atm withdrawal, normally I just give what I usually pay but it was her birthday so I gave her extra $50. I started back in 1998 San Francisco AMP during the myredbook days, the rate where 150 and up now I guess $250-260 is standard rate in the Bay Area at AMP.

Runon99
10-07-22, 20:07
Stop at Nikki's in SF after 2 years hiatus, was told they have made some changes, now prices increase from $200 to 250. I paid the $200 before FS and $50+$5 Atm withdrawal, normally I just give what I usually pay but it was her birthday so I gave her extra $50. I started back in 1998 San Francisco AMP during the myredbook days, the rate where 150 and up now I guess $250-260 is standard rate in the Bay Area at AMP.LOL, I just mentioned Nikki's in a PM to someone and was wondering if it's still open. I personally haven't been there in more than 12 years, probably because I didn't get lucky and see one of the legends the time I went, I saw a chubbo with lame service instead. Anyway, my question to you is, are the same legendary GILFs still there? Same hot tea / etc services?

ElPokeman007
10-08-22, 00:12
LOL, I just mentioned Nikki's in a PM to someone and was wondering if it's still open. I personally haven't been there in more than 12 years, probably because I didn't get lucky and see one of the legends the time I went, I saw a chubbo with lame service instead. Anyway, my question to you is, are the same legendary GILFs still there? Same hot tea / etc services?Nikki's is still open 8 am-10 pm, are you talk about Tammy she's 70+ Golf that still works at Nikki', the other are about 45-50 and providing the hot tea, I just call and ask call and ask who was working and what time they start working and make an appointment if I don't have their phone number. This is a YouTube video with Tammy 19:39 https://youtu.be/liLdOK-E5TU.

ElPokeman007
10-08-22, 00:23
LOL, I just mentioned Nikki's in a PM to someone and was wondering if it's still open. I personally haven't been there in more than 12 years, probably because I didn't get lucky and see one of the legends the time I went, I saw a chubbo with lame service instead. Anyway, my question to you is, are the same legendary GILFs still there? Same hot tea / etc services?Tammy is the only Gilf that I know, she's 70+ 19:39 YouTube video https://youtu.be/liLdOK-E5TU. Nikki's opened 8:00 to 10:00 I just call and ask what time she starts working, if I don't have their personal phone number and make an appointment with her. The others Michelle, Monica are 45-50 are still working and they still provided hot tea service.

KnoxNenters
10-10-22, 18:15
Publicly thanking this guy for insightful advice on the downtown scene. I'm visiting from out of town and he took extra time to explain some history and known dynamics about the AMPs there. Thanks. Buddy.

Please don't message me for the info. I'm happy to help if you're ever in Seattle.

TommyLove
10-11-22, 20:17
Grace managed to get a lease extension, month-to-month, and decided to keep it open for a while.

Winnie is back now, but still only taking regulars, at least for now.

Grace says that she has the numbers of guys who wanted to stay in touch after the closure - that came via the form at https://bit.ly/wellcare-connect - and she thanks everyone, and will use the info after they do close, so you can stay in touch. You can still use the form to stay connected.

Anyway, for now, you can book Grace and maybe KK by calling the shop.

This has been a public service announcement.


Hey everyone,

I've learned that the final closure is happening in late September. If you'd like for any of the ladies to contact you later, especially Winnie after she returns from China, please fill out this form: https://bit.ly/wellcare-connect.

Grace asked me to extend a thank you to all of their patrons over the years. You can PM me any questions and I'll relay to her.

End of an era guys!

Bourbon Neat
10-14-22, 19:33
Hey all,

I'll be visiting SF next week and want to get some insights into the AMPs. Any recommendations? I won't have a car so walking / public transpo from Unioin Square-ish is best.

I've been following the threads on Golden Pearl and Empire. Is one better than the other, or avoid both?

And what about Nikki's? I'm intrigued by the GILF thing.

Thanks.

BN.

ClosetPervert9
10-15-22, 13:22
Hey all,

I'll be visiting SF next week and want to get some insights into the AMPs. Any recommendations? I won't have a car so walking / public transpo from Unioin Square-ish is best.

I've been following the threads on Golden Pearl and Empire. Is one better than the other, or avoid both?

And what about Nikki's? I'm intrigued by the GILF thing.

Thanks.

BN.Sorry bro, but I notice that you don't report back to the cities you visit afterwards. You should consider contributing to the community and not just being all take.

VisibleNinja
10-16-22, 18:22
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TommyLove
10-17-22, 00:02
I was in the neighborhood on an errand, and stopped in on a lark, to say hi and try my luck. I ran into Winnie, and she looks at me and says, "Oh it's you, okay, I'll see you. " And yep, it was a great session! I really like this gal, she gives one of the best sessions in SF I think. When I have time, I'll leave a proper trip report for her and also KK who I also managed to see fortuitously.

Anyway, Winnie told me her old phone broke and she lost all her phone numbers. She did get the list of guys trying to reach her from Grace, but her English isn't so good and she's not quite ready to move out of "regulars only" mode. So she hasn't texted anyone from the list yet, but I sense that she's open to doing so soon. And you know, you can always try what I did! It's worked twice in a row to get to KK and Winnie, but not yet with Angie! I was hoping to do them all before the place closed up (haha).

I spoke with Grace afterward, and she says she decided to provide some continuity for her workers, so she's continuing month to month, until the landlord finds a new tenant. So the place is going to stay open for the time being, even though the lease has expired. She did tell me that she has the list of regulars from https://bit.ly/wellcare-connect, and will send out an announcement once things settle down so regulars can find their favorites.

Hope this PSA helps!


Grace managed to get a lease extension, month-to-month, and decided to keep it open for a while.

Winnie is back now, but still only taking regulars, at least for now.

Grace says that she has the numbers of guys who wanted to stay in touch after the closure - that came via the form at https://bit.ly/wellcare-connect - and she thanks everyone, and will use the info after they do close, so you can stay in touch. You can still use the form to stay connected.

Anyway, for now, you can book Grace and maybe KK by calling the shop.

This has been a public service announcement.

Bourbon Neat
10-17-22, 23:54
Places shut down early here in SF, so when I was in Chinatown I went to Yellow Orchid, the only place open.

I got there after 9 pm (they close at 10), paid house. 6, was told "no more table shower," and got on the table. The, uh, massage was just a lot of rubbing on my back with way too much lotion. We negotiated 1. 6 for FS, she hiked up her dress, and started a CBJ. She was fat, which I don't mind and she had great tits. Very readily allowed FIV. BTW, I don't remember her name, but it doesn't matter. You're not going. Then she climbed on for RCG. I stuck my thumb up her ass, then my forefinger up to the 3rd knuckle. When I told told her I wanted to fuck her ass, she chuckled but just kept riding me. I blew in the bag. She climbed off and sort of cleaned me off. She must have forgotten I had a finger all the way up her ass because she didn't clean it so I was left with a lubed ass-finger. Anyway, she said OK and left.

I TOFTT so you don't have to.

Ntea237
10-18-22, 14:15
Wanted to the try the scene in SF for the first time. Had trouble finding the place without any signs. Once I buzzed the mamasan let me in. It was around 5 pm and not much traffic. Didn't really get a line up or anything, just some random lady took my arm and led me to a room. I think her name was Alanis? From the Dominican Republic or something. Big fake boobs (she said they were real but I doubt it) and fake ass, but they're nice enough. $60 for the house fee and then immediately she said $$ for everything which is a little unusual but I'm grateful to get the formalities out the way.

She gave a little massage then gave a light CBJ, hopped on top for CW for a bit, I finished in doggy. Overall a decent experience. Straight to the point, but she was not really my type. I prefer all natural. I might try them again.

ClosetPervert9
10-21-22, 23:07
Wanted to the try the scene in SF for the first time. Had trouble finding the place without any signs. Once I buzzed the mamasan let me in. It was around 5 pm and not much traffic. Didn't really get a line up or anything, just some random lady took my arm and led me to a room. I think her name was Alanis? From the Dominican Republic or something. Big fake boobs (she said they were real but I doubt it) and fake ass, but they're nice enough. $60 for the house fee and then immediately she said $$ for everything which is a little unusual but I'm grateful to get the formalities out the way.

She gave a little massage then gave a light CBJ, hopped on top for CW for a bit, I finished in doggy. Overall a decent experience. Straight to the point, but she was not really my type. I prefer all natural. I might try them again.Thanks for reporting. You can ask for a line up if you're comfortable enough with all those woemn staring at you. Could be 3-8 women plus mamsan just staring at you intently.

CityDweller
10-25-22, 14:46
Gents,

Does anyone know of a place where you can get some manscaping done (trim, shave and / or wax) - by a woman of course. And then also maybe get some extras / relief? Will be visiting SF for work next week and hoping to get the nether regions cleaned up! Thanks in advance! Cheers. CD.

Neo12
10-26-22, 18:43
Gents,

Does anyone know of a place where you can get some manscaping done (trim, shave and / or wax) - by a woman of course. And then also maybe get some extras / relief? Will be visiting SF for work next week and hoping to get the nether regions cleaned up! Thanks in advance! Cheers. CD.Unfortunately, I haven't seen a place that does both. Either a place will do all that work and nothing else, and a massage place that only does extras.

SuroAwei
10-28-22, 22:27
Tried Blue Sky Health Center. Monica is a slim older lady, probably late 40's. Actually really good massage, worked out my knots. HE also very good. Lasted the full hour.

ClosetPervert9
10-29-22, 03:06
Unfortunately, I haven't seen a place that does both. Either a place will do all that work and nothing else, and a massage place that only does extras.The only place like this shut down. A while ago.

LookingX
10-29-22, 11:26
Unfortunately, I haven't seen a place that does both. Either a place will do all that work and nothing else, and a massage place that only does extras.So any suggestions about a place that just does the manscapping part? Prefer to have a women do it.

CityDweller
10-30-22, 13:39
The only place like this shut down. A while ago.I came across this woman. SugarNadya that advertises on craigslist beauty services. Anyone know anything about her?

CityDweller
10-30-22, 17:55
So I see this place getting pretty bad reviews on here, but I went today and drew Angel. A very cute mid-30's Viet girl. She was a tiny bit curvy, but definitely not chubby at all. Actually made her a little sexier than if she had been too skinny. Nice bolt-ons, an amazing ass that was perfect for grabbing in doggy. CBJ followed by nice CFS. Her opening bid was $3 which I laughed at and just gave her $2 and she was fine with it. Very pleasant girl who actually gave a very solid massage for the first 10-15 minutes. Honestly, I have never had a bad experience here and Angel was no exception. It's super convenient at the bottom of the hill in Chinatown.

StubbornMule
10-31-22, 00:19
Tried Blue Sky Health Center. Monica is a slim older lady, probably late 40's. Actually really good massage, worked out my knots. HE also very good. Lasted the full hour.How much was the damage?

CityDweller
10-31-22, 12:00
I came across this woman. SugarNadya that advertises on craigslist beauty services. Anyone know anything about her?OK, so I TOFTT and set up an appointment with her. She responded via text and was very prompt in getting back to me. Her studio was very clean and professional and while her manscaping prices are kind of on the expensive side, she was actually very thorough and professional and did a great job. I got some areas of my back waxed and she trimmed my nether region with clippers and all told, she spent a good 90 minutes of her time on this and was not in a hurry. If you do a google search on her, she basically runs a porn website where apparently some dudes pay her to film content with her and she does BBBJ and he for some guys. She told me she had a husband and an older kid. She's a very pretty woman and has amazing skin and doesn't look a day over 40 in person. But after seeing jr. Semi-erect after she was almost done with my bikini trim, she just king of pointed and smiled but would not offer any help after my repeated attempts to get her to do something about it. She told me she'd like to watch if I wanted to take care of myself, but that was as far as she would go, which I thought was pretty fucked up given her website. Oh well.

LAblu
11-07-22, 18:40
Hey guys,

I'm visiting SF for first time in a while. Looking for an AMP that has BBBJ, doesn't need to be FS. I'm happy to share LA info. I'm active down here and can be a good guide if you can help me out.

ImageCreator
11-08-22, 13:39
Hey guys,

I'm visiting SF for first time in a while. Looking for an AMP that has BBBJ, doesn't need to be FS. I'm happy to share LA info. I'm active down here and can be a good guide if you can help me out.Nikkis, for a sure thing.

You can also try these but YMMV and some providers may tell you they only offer CBJ.

Shine.

City Lights (- the one on Sacramento Street)

Devi.

SuroAwei
11-08-22, 15:29
How much was the damage?6 house, . 6 tip.

SmellsSoGood
11-09-22, 14:09
First time to Golden Pearl. Arrived at maybe 10 pm. Found the door and rang the bell, greeted by the only 1 girl available, Latin, kind of curvy, friendly.

Paid the fee and off to the races. A little massage started, it was not too bad all in all, and then the flip. CBJ, actually one of the better CBJ's I've experienced.

FS, clean up done. Same rate as all have posted.

I was quite a few drinks in when I got here. The place isn't exactly luxury. LOL. Mamasan etc. were all nice enough.

Be smart, be discreet, be nice, and you'll have a good time.

Runon99
11-09-22, 21:26
I'm visiting SF for first time in a while. Looking for an AMP that has BBBJ, doesn't need to be FS. I'm happy to share LA info. I'm active down here and can be a good guide if you can help me out.Aside from the suggestions you already got, some have recently reported receiving that service at Union Square Stress Reduction (USSR) on Sutter Street. It's on the 7th floor of the building, so don't go to the other AMP on the 3rd floor (Refresh Oasis), which has nicer facilities but where that particular service is very highly unlikely.

BuckeyeNerd
11-14-22, 07:51
Anyone have any intel on Siam Orchid on Polk? Legit or not?

Tk2015
11-15-22, 01:09
Anyone have any intel on Siam Orchid on Polk? Legit or not?I went to the one on Taylor which I believe is the same owner and it was completely legit. Got a great massage though!

KevinLeelUK
11-15-22, 16:33
I don't travel to SF often, but when I do, I'm now heading all the way out to The Richmond to see Grace. Her massage skills (particularly around and inside the glutes) are simply unparalleled. It's a unique experience and just extraordinary if like me, you enjoy a little (or a lot) of digital stimulation of the prostate from time to time.

Thanks Tommy for keeping us updated on Wellcare. I'm finding more reasons to return to SF as I know they won't be around forever.


I was in the neighborhood on an errand, and stopped in on a lark, to say hi and try my luck. I ran into Winnie, and she looks at me and says, "Oh it's you, okay, I'll see you. " And yep, it was a great session! I really like this gal, she gives one of the best sessions in SF I think. When I have time, I'll leave a proper trip report for her and also KK who I also managed to see fortuitously.

Anyway, Winnie told me her old phone broke and she lost all her phone numbers. She did get the list of guys trying to reach her from Grace, but her English isn't so good and she's not quite ready to move out of "regulars only" mode. So she hasn't texted anyone from the list yet, but I sense that she's open to doing so soon. And you know, you can always try what I did! It's worked twice in a row to get to KK and Winnie, but not yet with Angie! I was hoping to do them all before the place closed up (haha).

EdTulip
11-15-22, 21:25
Yoyo at North Beach. Yoyo is an older 50-60+year old mature looking woman. Larger all around. Overall not my type. She.I'm wondering if this is the same YoYo from Ai Rose? Is there any tattoo on her belly?

Jaycee101
11-16-22, 19:27
OK, so I TOFTT and set up an appointment with her. She responded via text and was very prompt in getting back to me. Her studio was very clean and professional and while her manscaping prices are kind of on the expensive side, she was actually very thorough and professional and did a great job. I got some areas of my back waxed and she trimmed my nether region with clippers and all told, she spent a good 90 minutes of her time on this and was not in a hurry. If you do a google search on her, she basically runs a porn website where apparently some dudes pay her to film content with her and she does BBBJ and he for some guys. She told me she had a husband and an older kid. She's a very pretty woman and has amazing skin and doesn't look a day over 40 in person. But after seeing jr. Semi-erect after she was almost done with my bikini trim, she just king of pointed and smiled but would not offer any help after my repeated attempts to get her to do something about it. She told me she'd like to watch if I wanted to take care of myself, but that was as far as she would go, which I thought was pretty fucked up given her website. Oh well.Her website notes that clients can opt to be filmed, wonder if that would illicit anything else if it were for content. Did you opt out or just not brought up? In any case I'm intrigued, may have to set up a time.

Tk2015
11-18-22, 20:46
I'm wondering if this is the same YoYo from Ai Rose? Is there any tattoo on her belly?Did not go there so wouldn't know. As I mentioned, not really my type.

Textor21
11-23-22, 04:00
A *buddy* of mine has been pursuing these forums ahead of his last min seminar trip to SF this week. He stopped by Empire spa just west of union Square and was greeted by a very pushy and rude mamasan. Quoted 70 for 35 min (odd) and was pushed to choose girls, sounds like almost yelled at IMHO. Mamasan kept calling him and a few other patrons "poor" in Chinese, very derogatory attitude. He didn't like the choices, no one was really smiling, and my buddy doesn't get off on sadism so he turned around and saved a few coin. More for the Witcher it seems.

He adds that there were about 5 girls when he went in late evening, ages ranging from late 20's to late 30's. Some clearly had lots of work done. Some seemed Chinese, others were definitely south Asian, the rest were ambiguous.

ClosetPervert9
11-30-22, 06:48
A *buddy* of mine has been pursuing these forums ahead of his last min seminar trip to SF this week. He stopped by Empire spa just west of union Square and was greeted by a very pushy and rude mamasan. Quoted 70 for 35 min (odd) and was pushed to choose girls, sounds like almost yelled at IMHO. Mamasan kept calling him and a few other patrons "poor" in Chinese, very derogatory attitude. He didn't like the choices, no one was really smiling, and my buddy doesn't get off on sadism so he turned around and saved a few coin. More for the Witcher it seems.

He adds that there were about 5 girls when he went in late evening, ages ranging from late 20's to late 30's. Some clearly had lots of work done. Some seemed Chinese, others were definitely south Asian, the rest were ambiguous.They aren't the best facility but that's odd behavior. I've seen this happen when people who appeared to be A) under some kind of influence or B) lollygagging around where at play but if you weren't either and you weren't trying to haggle a better price. I can't imagine what went so wrong. Because even when closing they rush you in and out in a semi polite manner.

Evolon702
11-30-22, 13:55
A *buddy* of mine has been pursuing these forums ahead of his last min seminar trip to SF this week. He stopped by Empire spa just west of union Square and was greeted by a very pushy and rude mamasan. Quoted 70 for 35 min (odd) and was pushed to choose girls, sounds like almost yelled at IMHO. Mamasan kept calling him and a few other patrons "poor" in Chinese, very derogatory attitude. He didn't like the choices, no one was really smiling, and my buddy doesn't get off on sadism so he turned around and saved a few coin. More for the Witcher it seems.

He adds that there were about 5 girls when he went in late evening, ages ranging from late 20's to late 30's. Some clearly had lots of work done. Some seemed Chinese, others were definitely south Asian, the rest were ambiguous.I stopped by this place after work and had a similar experience. The mamasan's attitude was enough for me to leave. The girls were decent enough, but looked miserable to be there.

ClosetPervert9
11-30-22, 14:21
I stopped by this place after work and had a similar experience. The mamasan's attitude was enough for me to leave. The girls were decent enough, but looked miserable to be there.I guess something must've happened since I was last there. Sorry to hear. They were never home of the best girls but they were always friendly and accommodating. Must be a sign of the times.

ImageCreator
12-01-22, 17:41
I guess something must've happened since I was last there. Sorry to hear. They were never home of the best girls but they were always friendly and accommodating. Must be a sign of the times.SF sucks in general, and prices everywhere are on the rise.

Textor21
12-01-22, 23:52
I think my *buddy* would describe himself as "an attractive young professional" so I'm not sure why that was the attitude. Evolon702 had a good point too, most of the girls didn't bother to look up from their phones when my buddy inquired about the price and was looking at the girls on the couch he was asked to choose from. My pal says that Golden pearl was so much better that he went twice.


I guess something must've happened since I was last there. Sorry to hear. They were never home of the best girls but they were always friendly and accommodating. Must be a sign of the times.

Textor21
12-02-22, 02:09
My *pal* decided to give SF another try last weekend and checked out Golden pearl. He rang the bell in the mid afternoon but was left standing outside since the mamasan apparently fell asleep ha. Eventually a stunning Colombian "masseuse" spinner about mid-20's opened the door and lead him in. My pal asked for a lineup per the advice on this board and requested asians since Empire was a bust, but none were available. The original Colombian spinner had a rockin' bod and was his favorite out of the Latina bunch, so they headed to the shower / massage room which he requested. Transaction was simple and straight forward, 60 and $$, and my pal was able to shower off and lie on the table in anticipation of getting that knot out of his back. Apparently *spa* was just a name and the Colombian only lightly kneaded his back and was more interested in getting to the main course- for which she was *very* skilled at. So on popped the hat and my friend forgot about the knot in his back for the next 45 min with CBJ and all sorts of positions. He wasn't too dismayed at the shortened time since he was running late to something afterwards anyway and mentioned this to the girl. He considered it a tip since she put a lot of skillful effort into it.

My pal enjoyed Shakira so much he visited her again this week before he left town. She happened to be the next available and and they went straight to business, skipping any semblance of a massage. She opened up more on the second visit, literally and figuratively, and further demonstrated to him her limber skills. My pal commented on what a pity it was that she was going to be leaving next week and not going anywhere near his home. She shorted him 15 min again, which my pal mentioned he was bummed about, but he also said he's never experienced anyone put as much constant effort into the main course as she's had. Like porno levels of effort and ending in a mutual shower. My pal, being a nice guy, chalked it up as another *tip* for her while I chided him about getting slightly cheated. Ah well, it's his money, at least he felt like he got what he needed out of it; except that he still has the knot in his back.

ClosetPervert9
12-02-22, 02:39
My *pal* decided to give SF another try last weekend and checked out Golden pearl. He rang the bell in the mid afternoon but was left standing outside since the mamasan apparently fell asleep ha. Eventually a stunning Colombian "masseuse" spinner about mid-20's opened the door and lead him in. My pal asked for a lineup per the advice on this board and requested asians since Empire was a bust, but none were available. The original Colombian spinner had a rockin' bod and was his favorite out of the Latina bunch, so they headed to the shower / massage room which he requested. Transaction was simple and straight forward, 60 and $$, and my pal was able to shower off and lie on the table in anticipation of getting that knot out of his back. Apparently *spa* was just a name and the Colombian only lightly kneaded his back and was more interested in getting to the main course- for which she was *very* skilled at. So on popped the hat and my friend forgot about the knot in his back for the next 45 min with CBJ and all sorts of positions. He wasn't too dismayed at the shortened time since he was running late to something afterwards anyway and mentioned this to the girl. He considered it a tip since she put a lot of skillful effort into it.

My pal enjoyed Shakira so much he visited her again this week before he left town. She happened to be the next available and and they went straight to business, skipping any semblance of a massage. She opened up more on the second visit, literally and figuratively, and further demonstrated to him her limber skills. My pal commented on what a pity it was that she was going to be leaving next week and not going anywhere near his home. She shorted him 15 min again, which my pal mentioned he was bummed about, but he also said he's never experienced anyone put as much constant effort into the main course as she's had. Like porno levels of effort and ending in a mutual shower. My pal, being a nice guy, chalked it up as another *tip* for her while I chided him about getting slightly cheated. Ah well, it's his money, at least he felt like he got what he needed out of it; except that he still has the knot in his back.Pearl is always my recommendation if you can afford it. I only had a bad experience once. Of MANY trips. Bad reports are pretty rare. I think I drew Shakira her first time in SF. She was testing the market to see if she was going to add it into her touring rotation. She was also columbian. If the girl your friend saw had a big gorgeous fake ass, then it may be the same girl. IF so, he definitely drew a marvelous provider. One time we had a semi GFE session that included a little cuddling, a deep conversation (despite her limited english and my limited spanish,) talking about our dreams, twerking, and a second but rushed BJ as time was up (initiated by her.) a true winner of a draw.

MrPresident
12-02-22, 17:54
In town for the weekend. Looking for a good quality massage and HE. Any recommendations? Thank you and I can help if you're ever on the east coast. Thank you!

Neo12
12-02-22, 17:56
SF sucks in general, and prices everywhere are on the rise.Yes, sadly SF is pretty dead now. It's pretty sad. Everywhere you go it's just ugly old Asian aunt providers. A long time ago, SF was the capital of massage in the Bay Area. My favorite place was Rainbow Spa near Chinatown. They had a bunch of tall, beautiful model looking Korean girls. But it's gone now along with the other places after the big local /, stare / ederal bust.

ImageCreator
12-03-22, 12:59
Yes, sadly SF is pretty dead now. It's pretty sad. Everywhere you go it's just ugly old Asian aunt providers. A long time ago, SF was the capital of massage in the Bay Area. My favorite place was Rainbow Spa near Chinatown. They had a bunch of tall, beautiful model looking Korean girls. But it's gone now along with the other places after the big local /, stare / ederal bust.It's strange, because politics have changed and I believe that (outside of sex trafficking) SF law enforcement and the the are not focused on policing the industry. However, commercial rental costs probably make it unappealing for any new business to establish here now. Most of the ones that exist are just age old places still hanging on.

ClosetPervert9
12-05-22, 09:10
It's strange, because politics have changed and I believe that (outside of sex trafficking) SF law enforcement and the the are not focused on policing the industry. However, commercial rental costs probably make it unappealing for any new business to establish here now. Most of the ones that exist are just age old places still hanging on.I largely expect it to go un-bothered with the exception of election time or when a city official gets called out for something and they need an accomplish so they "bust" a sex trafficing wing and "rescue" a few victims made to "work 12 -16 hour days.

MrPresident
12-07-22, 14:52
I had an evening of time to use so I decided to stop by a place with the initials USSR. Took the elevator up to 7th floor, spent 6 for a robotic massage, hit a few good spots but I can massage better. On the flip she wanted 8 but neg for 6. Prices has gone up high! The job was not so good either. I kept time and she went 45 min which was sad.

Deal5
12-12-22, 00:44
Hey friends, I will be in San Francisco on Christmas week, any good places for cheap massages?

Tk2015
12-15-22, 11:56
Was in the City and dropped by Asian Palace to see what it was about. Cute short Asian gal let's me in after I ring the buzzer and leads me to a room. Get undressed and wait. A different, older (50+), unattractive (IMO) skinny woman walks in a bit later and says her name is Jenny. Gives me a crappy two minute massage while screening me with q's. On the flip she asks what I want with a starting point of 3 benji's. I look at her and she is not attractive to me and tell her I'll pass on top level and ask for the menu. A bill for a HJ! I should have listened to my rational voice and walked but was there and lazy so opted for nude HJ for twenty more. Jack hammer city, no technique and she got frustrated a couple minutes in cause I wouldn't finish. She starts that I'm almost out of time and I need to hurry up. WTF! Saw another older provider, also not very attractive IMO walking out. I'll keep up the search but will not return to this shop.

TommyLove
12-16-22, 23:54
Sure, glad it went well for you!


I don't travel to SF often, but when I do, I'm now heading all the way out to The Richmond to see Grace. Her massage skills (particularly around and inside the glutes) are simply unparalleled. It's a unique experience and just extraordinary if like me, you enjoy a little (or a lot) of digital stimulation of the prostate from time to time.

Thanks Tommy for keeping us updated on Wellcare. I'm finding more reasons to return to SF as I know they won't be around forever.

TommyLove
12-18-22, 16:30
Before I relate my experience with Winnie, I thought I'd explain why I'm such a fan of the place. I'm not a shill, I promise.

Here's a good example of why I'm a loyal fan. I'm in my 60's and I recently went to a high school reunion, and man, everyone sure is getting old. But what really hit me was the number of guys who were having prostate problems. Two guys, one of whom was quite athletic in his youth, now have to wear catheters because their prostates are so enlarged that they cannot pee anymore. One got a diagnosis of cancer, and is getting a second opinion. The other did not and is thanking his lucky stars, but still needs to get a surgical procedure that is similar to rotorootering the prostate. Yikes! I didn't tell any of them about Grace's procedure, which I've done once a month for quite a while now. Which has kept the BPH (benign prostatic hyperplasia) at bay. I am like, so fucking grateful to her for this new age-why technique that has, up to now and fingers crossed, ensured my reproductive health!

This is why I'm an avid fan, and wanted guys here to show a little respect here for Grace. I am like, really really grateful for this special therapeutic service she offers. I mean, you can't get this anywhere else! Plus, why diss an older provider who is retiring, when YOU are the kind of guy who needs to pay for it. Am I right?

Anyway, the sessions with Grace are now basically therapeutic for me, so I thought I'd spice it up by seeing Winnie, who I used to see regularly, before hooking up with Grace. First, she has not started accepting walk-in's formally, but it is now possible to book her, if she happens to be at the place, waiting between clients. She usually bails in the afternoon, to do some shopping and not forced to be there. She has plenty of regulars, enough to "quiet quit" the normal massage parlor routine, to live a more balanced life. But if she's there between clients, and you're lucky, you can book her now.

So I really like this gal, and really appreciate her deep tissue bodywork moves, her beautiful eyes peeking over the mask (she is still masking up), and her exquisite sensuality. Oh, and she does this thing during backwalk, on my lower back that feels like a massage thumper machine that is indescribably delicious. Like any other red-blooded guy, I love the young kgirls at southbay AAMPs (do any of you remember Leah, Sky, Uri? You can PM me for the details, but I must say, there is something really special, even spectacular, about Winnie. For me, she's a 10.

Thanks for reading!


I don't travel to SF often, but when I do, I'm now heading all the way out to The Richmond to see Grace. Her massage skills (particularly around and inside the glutes) are simply unparalleled. It's a unique experience and just extraordinary if like me, you enjoy a little (or a lot) of digital stimulation of the prostate from time to time.

Thanks Tommy for keeping us updated on Wellcare. I'm finding more reasons to return to SF as I know they won't be around forever.

ClosetPervert9
12-19-22, 16:27
Hey friends, I will be in San Francisco on Christmas week, any good places for cheap massages?Cheap. Srry pal. This isn't the market for that sadly.

ClosetPervert9
12-19-22, 16:28
Before I relate my experience with Winnie, I thought I'd explain why I'm such a fan of the place. I'm not a shill, I promise.

Thanks for reading!Tommy, you're a well known, read, and respected member around these parts. We know you're not a shill account.

TommyLove
12-31-22, 07:41
Thanks! That's very kind of you to say!


Tommy, you're a well known, read, and respected member around these parts. We know you're not a shill account.

P1970
01-06-23, 14:26
I used to be a frequent visitor and had some really high quality sessions at various spas that have since closed. One was called CEO on an office building and another one that closed years ago that had a ton of young pretty Korean girls. My last few visits have been disappointing. Any recommendations? I am happy paying up for quality. Is Golden Pear on Taylor just OK or worth the visit?

ClosetPervert9
01-07-23, 01:22
I used to be a frequent visitor and had some really high quality sessions at various spas that have since closed. One was called CEO on an office building and another one that closed years ago that had a ton of young pretty Korean girls. My last few visits have been disappointing. Any recommendations? I am happy paying up for quality. Is Golden Pear on Taylor just OK or worth the visit?I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to find out. Rephrase your question.

P1970
01-07-23, 09:09
I'm not sure I understand what you're trying to find out. Rephrase your question.Sure: Are there any parlors / spas in SF that you would recommend today? Ideally with staff on the younger side and good service. Thank you.

RobGooble1
01-08-23, 12:39
Hey fellow mongers, I'm not much in asking for something without providing any content. I'm a fellow monger form the mid-Atlantic, and currently on a military deployment, which has no fame here. I'll be coming to Petaluma for 2 weeks of training at the end of Feb, and will definitely be interested in paying a visit to a "spa". I've never been in this area of the country before. I'll be flying into either SF or Oakland.

So how is the menu? How are the providers? And what are the fees? I'm typically looking for the full menu in either Asian or Latin flavors. What are the good places, and what are the places to avoid? Any help would be greatly appreciated.

ClosetPervert9
01-11-23, 00:34
Sure: Are there any parlors / spas in SF that you would recommend today? Ideally with staff on the younger side and good service. Thank you.Pearl if you have the money and the time. Ask for a line up.

ClosetPervert9
01-11-23, 00:35
Hey fellow mongers, I'm not much in asking for something without providing any content. I'm a fellow monger form the mid-Atlantic, and currently on a military deployment, which has no fame here. I'll be coming to Petaluma for 2 weeks of training at the end of Feb, and will definitely be interested in paying a visit to a "spa". I've never been in this area of the country before. I'll be flying into either SF or Oakland.

So how is the menu? How are the providers? And what are the fees? I'm typically looking for the full menu in either Asian or Latin flavors. What are the good places, and what are the places to avoid? Any help would be greatly appreciated.Will you be mobile or willing to pay for an uber? If not to either one then it's important that you know whether you'll be in oakland or san francisco.

WhoreMaster 91
01-11-23, 11:22
OK, so I TOFTT and set up an appointment with her. She responded via text and was very prompt in getting back to me. Her studio was very clean and professional and while her manscaping prices are kind of on the expensive side, she was actually very thorough and professional and did a great job. I got some areas of my back waxed and she trimmed my nether region with clippers and all told, she spent a good 90 minutes of her time on this and was not in a hurry. If you do a google search on her, she basically runs a porn website where apparently some dudes pay her to film content with her and she does BBBJ and he for some guys. She told me she had a husband and an older kid. She's a very pretty woman and has amazing skin and doesn't look a day over 40 in person. But after seeing jr. Semi-erect after she was almost done with my bikini trim, she just king of pointed and smiled but would not offer any help after my repeated attempts to get her to do something about it. She told me she'd like to watch if I wanted to take care of myself, but that was as far as she would go, which I thought was pretty fucked up given her website. Oh well.Thanks bro what was the damage? Could you touch her? Maybe YMMV.

RobGooble1
01-18-23, 20:27
Will you be mobile or willing to pay for an uber? If not to either one then it's important that you know whether you'll be in oakland or san francisco.My plan is to rent a car. I'll be flying into SF, and working in Petaluma. Don't want something too far away, cause I'll be working into the evening.

Jjonsno
01-20-23, 12:24
Heading up to Calistoga next week and I know there are plenty of places to get massages but any with legit rubdown then HE?

ClosetPervert9
01-21-23, 11:53
My plan is to rent a car. I'll be flying into SF, and working in Petaluma. Don't want something too far away, cause I'll be working into the evening.Check your pm.

LeafyPotato
01-23-23, 17:35
OK, shot in the dark here. I know Island Dream Spa in West Portal has been closed for a few years now, but there was one provider there who threw me for a total loop and who I never saw again. I don't know her name or what days she worked, but for some reason she popped into my mind recently. Normally you would just get the kinda heavier lady who worked the front desk, who gave a really good massage (I actually think she's down the peninsula now), but if she was busy, sometimes it was possible to draw someone else randomly. One of those times, I got a very enthusiastic, relatively young (maybe 30) woman, cute, natural, thin but curvy, who was quick to climb up on the table with me, kissed me, hugged me, cuddled me. And eventually (again, unsolicited) rode me bareback, and then went into a more standard massage followed by a second (MSOG, just hands) ending. It freaked me out a lot, but when little brain does the thinking, big brain goes AWOL. You know what I mean. Anyway, this was probably 4-5 years ago, and I was pretty new to the hobby. I'm curious if anyone knows who she is and where she went. Now that I'm a little more experienced, I might want to try again with her, and try to be a little more principled and safe about it.

ImageCreator
01-27-23, 12:01
My plan is to rent a car. I'll be flying into SF, and working in Petaluma. Don't want something too far away, cause I'll be working into the evening.Honestly, if you're in petaluma, go to Heaven Spa in Napa. You're welcome.

MrLxtxrxtx
02-07-23, 22:09
Any recommendations in and around the Dublin and / or Pleasanton area?

Thank you for any information!

Runon99
02-08-23, 16:20
Any recommendations in and around the Dublin and / or Pleasanton area?You're better off posting your question in the Oakland forum, which also covers the greater East Bay including the area you're asking about. Places out there (and elsewhere?) might be a little cautious after some recent coordinated LE activity shut down a popular place in Concord.

Paradigum
03-09-23, 05:29
I was in SF for the weekend and decided to visit a couple MP's recommended here. Do not recall the names of either of the women however stopped in at Golden Pearl Spa the first night followed by Empire Spa the next as I chose a hotel in the area. My recommendation is to go to both.

Golden Pearl Spa was an older woman with a smoking body who really made sure I was satisfied. Zero complaints with service.

At Empire, Mamasan had an absolute stunning young beauty come to the room who again did not disappoint. I could not have imagined a better body. Slightly less eager than at Pearl but she warmed up quickly.

I did not ask for the lineup at either location. My recommendation is to enter in decent attire and look clean as I was treated to top knotch without the awkwardness of a lineup. Very envious of the SF scene.

ClosetPervert9
03-09-23, 13:40
I was in SF for the weekend and decided to visit a couple MP's recommended here. Do not recall the names of either of the women however stopped in at Golden Pearl Spa the first night followed by Empire Spa the next as I chose a hotel in the area. My recommendation is to go to both.

Golden Pearl Spa was an older woman with a smoking body who really made sure I was satisfied. Zero complaints with service.

At Empire, Mamasan had an absolute stunning young beauty come to the room who again did not disappoint. I could not have imagined a better body. Slightly less eager than at Pearl but she warmed up quickly.

I did not ask for the lineup at either location. My recommendation is to enter in decent attire and look clean as I was treated to top notch without the awkwardness of a lineup. Very envious of the SF scene.Thanks for reporting back. I've been to golden pearl many times. I've never dealt with anyone in their 30's. Only in the 20's and I don't always get the lineup. I've only had one bad experience so I'm glad they didn't disappoint. Do you recall how much was paid at either location?

I'm glad you enjoyed yourself.

Murrican
03-10-23, 02:07
Asking here because there is no sugar thread in the SF forum.

Anyone know how the sugar scene is in SF? What are going rates for cute 18-25's? Is it polluted by all the tech money 😕?

ClosetPervert9
03-10-23, 09:07
Asking here because there is no sugar thread in the SF forum.

Anyone know how the sugar scene is in SF? What are going rates for cute 18-25's? Is it polluted by all the tech money 😕?You should ask this in escort or general. But you may be better off going to the east bay or san jose sb threads.

Murrican
03-10-23, 09:57
You should ask this in escort or general. But you may be better off going to the east bay or san jose sb threads.Thanks. Will do.

WillHelick
03-10-23, 18:29
Several of the gals in that age range that I contacted when I was on SA were looking for 600+ for an hour or so, once you add hotel cost you are well over 700.


Asking here because there is no sugar thread in the SF forum.

Anyone know how the sugar scene is in SF? What are going rates for cute 18-25's? Is it polluted by all the tech money 😕?

Pupsnu
04-12-23, 22:30
Haven't been to SF in years. Was hoping to get advice from this board where I can find "spa" that has girls who offer rimming. Thanks.

TheGreatOne22
04-14-23, 03:00
Haven't been to SF in years. Was hoping to get advice from this board where I can find "spa" that has girls who offer rimming. Thanks.I'll be in San Francisco on Friday April 14th and I'm looking for the same kind of spa. Any and all information is greatly appreciated.

Jjonsno
04-15-23, 13:32
Anyone know if they are still open and looking for suggestions on masseuse suggestions. Just want to get a legit rub with HE.

ClosetPervert9
04-16-23, 10:56
I'll be in San Francisco on Friday April 14th and I'm looking for the same kind of spa. Any and all information is greatly appreciated.I don't think any of the spas offer this. You'll likely have to find an escort, c-org, or a k-org worker.

TommyLove
04-16-23, 18:16
Hey everyone,

It's been a while since I was online here, but here's some news about Wellcare. The sale of the parlor was completed and a new operation called Beaufort Day Spa has now opened. I went in to see Grace and met the new owner, who is cute and used to run a successful AMP in SF. She moved out of state for several years but now she's back. Anyway, here are the details:

It's physically the same, with the same rooms and sauna, which are all very clean and tidy now. I dunno what I can add, except that the lighting is better and the towels are new. And the music system is fixed so there's spa music playing now. Winnie and Angie have left for China, and a new staff is starting up on Tuesday 4/18, which kicks off a couple of months of "grand opening" activities.

Jessica directed me to their website: https://beaufort-dayspa.com.

Grace says she'll stick around for a while to help Jessica with the handover and to get things restarted.

Oh, and she adds that we can call 415-668-1381 to make an appointment to see her before she's gone.

I'll return on Tuesday to check out the new talent, but I am already feeling a tad wistful about this being the end of an era. If you have question, PM me, and I'll make an effort to be online more.

JoeHans
04-16-23, 21:57
Relatively new to the scene, visited Golden Pearl 3 times, first and third time were immediately met by Colombian hotties that really made the visit worth it. The second time was a Cuban girl that wasn't into it whatsoever and I'm almost sure she gave me a pretty nasty flu. Overall I'd still return in the future.

However with that said, the girls there from my experience don't really do too much massaging and get to the FS. I'm looking for any recommendations for places that offer FBSM / Nuru massage. Preferably with happy ending and NOT from east-asian girls as a personal preference. TIA!

ElPokeman007
04-17-23, 06:38
Relatively new to the scene, visited Golden Pearl 3 times, first and third time were immediately met by Colombian hotties that really made the visit worth it. The second time was a Cuban girl that wasn't into it whatsoever and I'm almost sure she gave me a pretty nasty flu. Overall I'd still return in the future.

However with that said, the girls there from my experience don't really do too much massaging and get to the FS. I'm looking for any recommendations for places that offer FBSM / Nuru massage. Preferably with happy ending and NOT from east-asian girls as a personal preference. TIA!What the charge for FS at GP, do they charge 60 plus $$ for the tip, I'm looking for a spa that not charging over $$. Since Covid the AMP that I go to are asking $260 for FS.

ClosetPervert9
04-18-23, 05:08
Relatively new to the scene, visited Golden Pearl 3 times, first and third time were immediately met by Colombian hotties that really made the visit worth it. The second time was a Cuban girl that wasn't into it whatsoever and I'm almost sure she gave me a pretty nasty flu. Overall I'd still return in the future.

However with that said, the girls there from my experience don't really do too much massaging and get to the FS. I'm looking for any recommendations for places that offer FBSM / Nuru massage. Preferably with happy ending and NOT from east-asian girls as a personal preference. TIA!I get a massage everytime I go. You just got to ask for it or assume the position and let them massage you.

TommyLove
04-20-23, 00:09
The new owner of Beaufort called me today and asked me if I wanted to book something special on Friday. A new girl named Lucy who she says is gorgeous and only 27 years old. She will be giving Beaufort a try for a day on Friday. She really wants to recruit Lucy, so she's pulled out all the stops to make sure this gal has a full dance card, and will agree to come work full time. Anyway, she asked me to pitch in by taking a slot, and also, to spread the word. So if you want to check out this new establishment, call Jessica at 415.668. 1381 and beg, "I want to book Lucy on Friday, please!

Jessica says Lucy's about half booked up already, so you should hurry. She also sent me a pic that she's using for an ad, and asked me to share it, so here I am being a good lap dog.

Okay, that concludes this public service announcement!


Hey everyone,

It's been a while since I was online here, but here's some news about Wellcare. The sale of the parlor was completed and a new operation called Beaufort Day Spa has now opened. I went in to see Grace and met the new owner, who is cute and used to run a successful AMP in SF. She moved out of state for several years but now she's back. Anyway, here are the details:

It's physically the same, with the same rooms and sauna, which are all very clean and tidy now. I dunno what I can add, except that the lighting is better and the towels are new. And the music system is fixed so there's spa music playing now. Winnie and Angie have left for China, and a new staff is starting up on Tuesday 4/18, which kicks off a couple of months of "grand opening" activities.

Jessica directed me to their website: https://beaufort-dayspa.com.

Grace says she'll stick around for a while to help Jessica with the handover and to get things restarted.

Oh, and she adds that we can call 415-668-1381 to make an appointment to see her before she's gone.

I'll return on Tuesday to check out the new talent, but I am already feeling a tad wistful about this being the end of an era. If you have question, PM me, and I'll make an effort to be online more.

Vick1957
04-21-23, 23:12
Visiting SF soon from the East Coast. Interested in a Massage Parlor with American ladies or Latinas, where you have the choice of 2-3 ladies upon entering. Not interested in AMPs. Welcome to send me a Private Message. Thanks in advance!

Seeker B12
04-24-23, 22:35
Greetings fellow people I will be traveling to SF in a week for about a week from VA. I checked a few pages and discovered that Golden Pearl, Empire, and nikkis are worth visiting.

Since other places had mixed reviews. I have a few follow-up questions for you guys. I could not find the Empire spa, the only one I found is in San jose and it is temporarily closed. Maybe I found the wrong one if I did can you direct me to the correct location?

About nikkis place, who is worth the visit? Finally, a few comments stated that to visit the golden pearl and ask for a line up for that need to have a good amount of paper on hand. Can anyone say the exact amount of paper that is needed to have a good and long visit?

You can either answer here or you can pm me.

Thank you in advance guys.

I am eager to visit your places since my town in VA is sad to the point that you have to drive to another town to see someone ok LOL.

Neo12
04-26-23, 16:03
Greetings fellow people I will be traveling to SF in a week for about a week from VA. I checked a few pages and discovered that Golden Pearl, Empire, and nikkis are worth visiting.
Since other places had mixed reviews. I have a few follow-up questions for you guys. I could not find the Empire spa, the only one I found is in San jose and it is temporarily closed. Maybe I found the wrong one if I did can you direct me to the correct location?
About nikkis place, who is worth the visit? Finally, a few comments stated that to visit the golden pearl and ask for a line up for that need to have a good amount of paper on hand. Can anyone say the exact amount of paper that is needed to have a good and long visit?
You can either answer here or you can pm me.
Thank you in advance guys.
I am eager to visit your places since my town in VA is sad to the point that you have to drive to another town to see someone ok LOL.Empire Spa is still there. Just type: "empire spa san francisco" in Google and all their info will be shown. Golden Pearl is okay. It's about 60 for the house charge and 200 for FS. I don't think Nikki's is worth it anymore.

ElPokeman007
04-27-23, 02:12
Empire Spa is still there. Just type: "empire spa san francisco" in Google and all their info will be shown. Golden Pearl is okay. It's about 60 for the house charge and 200 for FS. I don't think Nikki's is worth it anymore.Nikki's is still open, the owner has increased the rate to $260 total for FS and hot tea, it might be less for massage with happy ending or BBBJ they have a Atm if you need extra funds. They have mostly MILF 45-70. Tammy is still there and Tina got married and retired.

Seeker B12
04-27-23, 19:42
Nikki's is still open, the owner has increased the rate to $260 total for FS and hot tea, it might be less for massage with happy ending or BBBJ they have a Atm if you need extra funds. They have mostly MILF 45-70. Tammy is still there and Tina got married and retired.70? LOL that's crazy. I do not think that such an old provider is worth spending that much for a massage. I guess I will take that place off my list. Unless they have some 45 with the hottest body.

Seeker B12
04-27-23, 19:45
Empire Spa is still there. Just type: "empire spa san francisco" in Google and all their info will be shown. Golden Pearl is okay. It's about 60 for the house charge and 200 for FS. I don't think Nikki's is worth it anymore.Can you or someone else recommend the hottest one in both Pearl and empire?

About rates thank you for the info.

JoeSchmoe2014
04-27-23, 20:17
Can you or someone else recommend the hottest one in both Pearl and empire?

About rates thank you for the info.Hoping for a quick intro massage at GP, I popped in today afternoon. After asking for lineup, I saw at least 2 if not 3 hotties that caught my interest. The first two were slender perhaps Latin American. One was super tall with a medium bootie, the other average height. Either way they piqued my interest. There was a 3rd Asian (maybe Vietnamese?) girl that was also cute and petite. I didn't realize they ask for full donation upfront. Not used to that. I only brought standard entry donation for today. D'oh! I'll be back next week hopefully. But my only concern is that I currently only have limited funds. Seems wrong of me to dish out 2. 6 for non-GFE service, when a touch more (say 3. 2 or so) can get me full Kgirl bb service, albeit a lot more inconvenient travel issues.

I've been following the Beaufort / Wellness thread and hoping to reconnect with Angie or Kiki, even added myself to their contact list recently. But no word from them yet and I'm not sure the new gig has girls offering Angie's level of service.

ClosetPervert9
04-28-23, 19:52
Can you or someone else recommend the hottest one in both Pearl and empire?

About rates thank you for the info.Pearl is usually touring talent so its not likely you'll find someone you like who will still be there when you get back.

Seeker B12
04-28-23, 20:10
Pearl is usually touring talent so its not likely you'll find someone you like who will still be there when you get back.I see, work with what they got or leave LOL thanks for the info.

TommyLove
04-29-23, 22:31
So I went in and had a good time with Eva, but don't have time right now to upload a review. Instead, the owner asked me to relay a message to y'all.

Monday 5/1 is the start of their grand opening month, and they will have four girls available on Monday. Amy, Grace, Sophie and Wendy. They are hiring aggressively and have 8 girls either on staff or trying out. You can check out the website at https://beaufort-dayspa.com/ for more details, but more importantly, you can get discount coupons and new girl announcements by signing up for flash coupons on your phone by signing up on the website or at the shop. I did, in order to get an instant discount coupon, and have been getting useful info. The texts they send are pretty discreet. I remember when I was in New York, a parlor sent me unsolicited text ads. At least they use an opt-in service.

Anyway, they're trying to do it better, and you got to admire that! And the owner, Jessica, certainly understands customer service. Super friendly. For example, she set up a drinks table to offer a welcome drink - an espresso, tea, or something from a Sodastream. Well, I was impressed by that! The place feels like, sorta, or at least they're trying to be a "business class" massage parlor!

I'll upload a review about Eva soon. And I did catch a glimpse of Emily, who looked really delicious to me. Please PM me with deets about her, if you have any.

Seeker B12
04-30-23, 12:00
So I went in and had a good time with Eva, but don't have time right now to upload a review. Instead, the owner asked me to relay a message to y'all.

Monday 5/1 is the start of their grand opening month, and they will have four girls available on Monday. Amy, Grace, Sophie and Wendy. They are hiring aggressively and have 8 girls either on staff or trying out. You can check out the website at https://beaufort-dayspa.com/ for more details, but more importantly, you can get discount coupons and new girl announcements by signing up for flash coupons on your phone by signing up on the website or at the shop. I did, in order to get an instant discount coupon, and have been getting useful info. The texts they send are pretty discreet. I remember when I was in New York, a parlor sent me unsolicited text ads. At least they use an opt-in service.

Anyway, they're trying to do it better, and you got to admire that! And the owner, Jessica, certainly understands customer service. Super friendly. For example, she set up a drinks table to offer a welcome drink - an espresso, tea, or something from a Sodastream. Well, I was impressed by that! The place feels like, sorta, or at least they're trying to be a "business class" massage parlor!

I'll upload a review about Eva soon. And I did catch a glimpse of Emily, who looked really delicious to me. Please PM me with deets about her, if you have any.It looks legit, can you get full relaxation there?

TommyLove
05-01-23, 15:45
Hey everyone, as requested by the manager, Jessica the sweetiepie, I'm passing this message along. Today is Beaufort's grand opening event. They will have 4 girls available, today only. Amy, Sophie, Vivian & Wendy. And the full lineup is pretty impressive, they have 10 girls on staff now, and still seeking PYTs. Jessica suggested that you call to book ahead to book someone, if there's someone special you want for today, 415.668. 1381.


So I went in and had a good time with Eva, but don't have time right now to upload a review. Instead, the owner asked me to relay a message to y'all.

Monday 5/1 is the start of their grand opening month, and they will have four girls available on Monday. Amy, Grace, Sophie and Wendy. They are hiring aggressively and have 8 girls either on staff or trying out. You can check out the website at https://beaufort-dayspa.com/ for more details, but more importantly, you can get discount coupons and new girl announcements by signing up for flash coupons on your phone by signing up on the website or at the shop. I did, in order to get an instant discount coupon, and have been getting useful info. The texts they send are pretty discreet. I remember when I was in New York, a parlor sent me unsolicited text ads. At least they use an opt-in service.

Anyway, they're trying to do it better, and you got to admire that! And the owner, Jessica, certainly understands customer service. Super friendly. For example, she set up a drinks table to offer a welcome drink - an espresso, tea, or something from a Sodastream. Well, I was impressed by that! The place feels like, sorta, or at least they're trying to be a "business class" massage parlor!

I'll upload a review about Eva soon. And I did catch a glimpse of Emily, who looked really delicious to me. Please PM me with deets about her, if you have any.

TommyLove
05-01-23, 15:47
Jessica sent me these pics.


Hey everyone, as requested by the manager, Jessica the sweetiepie, I'm passing this message along. Today is Beaufort's grand opening event. They will have 4 girls available, today only. Amy, Sophie, Vivian & Wendy. And the full lineup is pretty impressive, they have 10 girls on staff now, and still seeking PYTs. Jessica suggested that you call to book ahead to book someone, if there's someone special you want for today, 415.668. 1381.

Kense
05-02-23, 12:42
Jessica sent me these pics.Reports are the women are still fairly old and not very hot. Only HJ shop.

Seeker B12
05-03-23, 01:28
Reports are the women are still fairly old and not very hot. Only HJ shop.Always go yourself to know for sure. I went there and saw Emmy. In her 30's but sexy body and a nice rack. Since it was a grand opening I brought large lolly pop as a gift. She managed to take a good pounding while trying to eat it 0. 50/0. 110.

Kense
05-03-23, 11:24
Always go yourself to know for sure. I went there and saw Emmy. In her 30's but sexy body and a nice rack. Since it was a grand opening I brought large lolly pop as a gift. She managed to take a good pounding while trying to eat it 0. 50/0. 110.Can you translate those numbers?

Seeker B12
05-04-23, 00:37
Can you translate those numbers?Move the dot to the very end.

Seeker B12
05-04-23, 00:42
Girl was hot and fake but I don't really care about that. But those fake sounds kept turning me off. I am a big boy and still. She must be not new to the place LOL.

Also, no foreplay I mean like zero. For such a tips it should be included. I am not sure maybe I pulled the wrong person and there are others who go all in. Good thing that they are open 24/7 and I believe there are like 12 people in a team.

All in all good, but I enjoyed more at the location from my previous post.

You guys are spoiled here compare to VA, I was getting tired of asians and some Dominican chick was a good choice.

Anyhow, thanks for having me it was a good vacation :) peace out.

ImageCreator
05-04-23, 12:41
Move the dot to the very end.You have 3 decimals mixed in there. I'm assuming 50 + 110, but looks odd.

HeadRooster
05-04-23, 15:11
Gentlemen. I'm sure you get asked for help a lot from visitors, so thank you in advance for any suggestions.

I'll be visiting next week for work, and can stay anywhere in the area. I like Korean massage places, and my questions are. Are they mostly in and around China Town? Would that be a good place to stay? I'll have a car but since I hate traffic and don't really know the area should I stay in or around that area?

I've read that the SW scene is good with younger hotties on Capp St. Should I avoid as I read it's closed to vehicles.

Thank you in advance for anyone that can help.

HR.

JoeSchmoe2014
05-05-23, 17:02
Gentlemen. I'm sure you get asked for help a lot from visitors, so thank you in advance for any suggestions.

I'll be visiting next week for work, and can stay anywhere in the area. I like Korean massage places, and my questions are. Are they mostly in and around China Town? Would that be a good place to stay? I'll have a car but since I hate traffic and don't really know the area should I stay in or around that area?

I've read that the SW scene is good with younger hotties on Capp St. Should I avoid as I read it's closed to vehicles..No, the Korean AAMPS are mostly down south in San Jose, with a few sprinkled around the Penninsula (San Mateo) and East Bay (Emeryville). There's some kind of negotiated rule (my personal hypothesis) between the C-orgs and K-orgs that k-orgs stay out of the city. I've been at this for over 20 years and have always found the Asian talent to be elsewhere in the Bay.

Don't stay in Chinatown. Not enough AMPs there, and downtown is relatively dead. Plus a pain in the ass to park / drive. If you have a choice, stay near San Mateo, Foster City (30-45 minutes south of here).

JamesHolden
05-06-23, 21:24
I got a message from the receptionist that they've published a massage therapist schedule: https://beaufort-dayspa.com/schedule/.

She asked me to spread the word, so I thought I'd post it here. When I have time I'll upload a review of my experience there.

Peace out.


Hey everyone, as requested by the manager, Jessica the sweetiepie, I'm passing this message along. Today is Beaufort's grand opening event. They will have 4 girls available, today only. Amy, Sophie, Vivian & Wendy. And the full lineup is pretty impressive, they have 10 girls on staff now, and still seeking PYTs. Jessica suggested that you call to book ahead to book someone, if there's someone special you want for today, 415.668. 1381.

ClosetPervert9
05-07-23, 13:52
Girl was hot and fake but I don't really care about that. But those fake sounds kept turning me off. I am a big boy and still. She must be not new to the place LOL.

Also, no foreplay I mean like zero. For such a tips it should be included. I am not sure maybe I pulled the wrong person and there are others who go all in. Good thing that they are open 24/7 and I believe there are like 12 people in a team.

All in all good, but I enjoyed more at the location from my previous post.

You guys are spoiled here compare to VA, I was getting tired of asians and some Dominican chick was a good choice.

Anyhow, thanks for having me it was a good vacation :) peace out.Thats interesting. I've never heard of that being an issue and I usually even get a little massage too.

SwiperWiper
05-07-23, 19:56
Reports are the women are still fairly old and not very hot. Only HJ shop.I had a schedule with another provider that was listed on the usual sites. Address wasn't revealed until right before session and it ended up being at the Wellcare spot.

My day was back in April and they had Grace there and the other ladies working on doing some maintenance before the opening.

They recognized me and said they were having a new owner and new opening the next week.

Seems that they were recruiting other people around the city to start working out on the Geary location.

Previously the person I was seeing had her place at the workspace building on 18th st before she changed address to the Geary location.

At the Geary location it was still just regular HJ and they had not change out any flooring or updated electricals yet (turning on the heater made the circuits turn off).

WardTerry
05-15-23, 21:39
I'm going to be in San Francisco in a few weeks for business and have read some of the reviews on these places I have enough discretionary income to visit one of these places.

From one of the posts it sounds like GP has 12 girls working at the same time?? Wow. Hard to believe it wouldn't be one hottie in the bunch.

I can spend 300.

Who.

Has best selection and hottest women? I'm equal distance from each place.

ClosetPervert9
05-19-23, 23:02
I'm going to be in San Francisco in a few weeks for business and have read some of the reviews on these places I have enough discretionary income to visit one of these places.

From one of the posts it sounds like GP has 12 girls working at the same time?? Wow. Hard to believe it wouldn't be one hottie in the bunch.

I can spend 300.

Who.

Has best selection and hottest women? I'm equal distance from each place.I would say GP. Ask for a lineup when you get there. They usully have better lookers in my opinion. Empire can host some gems but you have a better chance with a line up of 8 girls.

Neo12
05-20-23, 08:44
For those that have been to GP lately, are there young Asian girls (20-30) currently working? If so, do you know their names and schedules?

JonSnow3311
05-20-23, 12:54
I went to Empire last week in the afternoon. There was about 6-7 wg. Saw mostly Viet ladies late 30's to 40's in the lobby. I picked out a Venezuelan chick that looked pretty young. Mid to late 20's that didn't speak English. I asked mms for 1 hour and she said. 9 and the WG wanted $$ for everything. No GFE (LFK or DATY) CBJ and cfs was what I got. She was like 5 foot with a huge ass and nice c's that hung to the side. Tiny little nipples and good attitude. She gave me about 20 minutes of massage at the beginning and end. She was super sexy to look at in the mirrors. Hope this helps.

ElPokeman007
05-20-23, 19:50
I went to Empire last week in the afternoon. There was about 6-7 wg. Saw mostly Viet ladies late 30's to 40's in the lobby. I picked out a Venezuelan chick that looked pretty young. Mid to late 20's that didn't speak English. I asked mms for 1 hour and she said. 9 and the WG wanted $$ for everything. No GFE (LFK or DATY) CBJ and cfs was what I got. She was like 5 foot with a huge ass and nice c's that hung to the side. Tiny little nipples and good attitude. She gave me about 20 minutes of massage at the beginning and end. She was super sexy to look at in the mirrors. Hope this helps.The old days are gone now, Nikki's used to be $150 now it's $260. Empire is young provider cfs, CBJ for $$, provider at Nikki's or MILF hot tea BBBJ and cim for $$. I starting to miss the days. I guess I can look around for CBJ on escort site like https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/northbay/135583615.

JamesHolden
05-28-23, 16:20
I went in today, and holy shit I hit the jackpot. Jennifer is gorgeous, 20's, first day. I'm walking on sunshine, and want her happy, so I'm spreading the news. I'll do a review soon.

Form an orderly line around the block!

Neo12
05-30-23, 09:06
I went in today, and holy shit I hit the jackpot. Jennifer is gorgeous, 20's, first day. I'm walking on sunshine, and want her happy, so I'm spreading the news. I'll do a review soon.
Form an orderly line around the block!Yeah, tell us everything. And where is this place? I can't find an address on Google.

ImageCreator
05-30-23, 13:45
Yeah, tell us everything. And where is this place? I can't find an address on Google.It's literally mentioned multiple times on this very page. Scroll down. It's on Geary. Just a new name for Well Care.

JamesHolden
05-30-23, 14:51
Yeah, tell us everything. And where is this place? I can't find an address on Google.Beaufort is on Geary at 11th, I think? Same block as Lamps Plus. It used to be called Wellcare.

This place is different. It's the first massage parlor that offered me a free espresso.

Anyway I booked Jennifer for an hour. She looks mid 20's, has a really nice body and pretty face, just like I like 'them. Her massage isn't too great, as she's only been doing this for a year, but like, who cares. She's full service and great at the sensual side! Good English too.

I'll write a full report later, when I have time. I'm on a deadline at work right now, haha.

JamesHolden
06-01-23, 02:45
Quick note. I got a text from the MMS that Jennifer would be back on Saturday and Sunday, and to pre-book because her dance card will be full soon.

She also mentioned that a new hottie named Ashley would be working for a day on Friday.

Just thought I'd pass this along.

WardTerry
06-01-23, 12:00
Quick note. I got a text from the MMS that Jennifer would be back on Saturday and Sunday, and to pre-book because her dance card will be full soon.

She also mentioned that a new hottie named Ashley would be working for a day on Friday.

Just thought I'd pass this along.What is the door fee and tip at this place?

Sounds like GP and Empire it is close to $260-300 out the door. ?

JamesHolden
06-01-23, 16:39
What is the door fee and tip at this place?
Sounds like GP and Empire it is close to $260-300 out the door. ?This place is not like Empire, it is more massage oriented, but I think the prices are roughly comparable.

An hour is $70 for the massage, and tips run $60-160 depending on service. And I think full service is not guaranteed.

The MMS texted me again, yet another new girl is in today, trying it out. Jenny.

And Ashley is in tomorrow, and then Jennifer Sat / Sun, but she suggested booking for Jennifer early as she is getting fully booked early in the day.

I'm tempted to check out the new girls, but I'm going to save my spunk up for Jennifer this weekend. Maybe next week.

Attached is a pic of a porn star that is very similar in body type to Jennifer, who I admit is a bit under my skin.

WardTerry
06-04-23, 16:57
Do these places supply their own cover or should I source my.

Own? Would love if they used Okamoto 001 !

Won't be able to source my.

Own it f those this time.

Balogna8D
06-04-23, 19:41
Do these places supply their own cover or should I source my.

Own? Would love if they used Okamoto 001 !

Won't be able to source my.

Own it f those this time.If you want a specific condom always bring your own. These girls will always provide some if they offer covered service. You should also bring some lube if you want to use that.

JP316
06-07-23, 09:38
I'm heading to the area in about 10 days for work and it looks like GP is the way to go (it's within a block or two of my hotel and sounds like it's got a lot of options). I just have a few questions:

1. Am I wrong and there is a better choice in the same general area (5-10 minute walk).

2. Is there a best time to go where you'll have the best choice of ladies?

3. Any particular ladies there now that are top notch?

4. What's the 5-0 status in the area? Two of our biggest AMPs in our area have been raided lately so the normal paranoia is ratcheted up a little bit.

Thanks in advance!

JamesHolden
06-12-23, 22:26
Hey guys,

The MMS at Beaufort asked me to relay a note to "the forums" out there, and she is so sweet to me that I'm happy to do so. (FYI, I am NOT getting a discount or anything for this, I'm just being nice to all the girls there.) Anyway, this is what she sent me, and I'm passing it along!

1) First, Jennifer is working three days a week now – Tuesday, Friday and Sunday. She's the star and if you want to see her, you need to prebook. She's usually fully booked every day. (I've reviewed Jennifer and I'm quite smitten, am I a simp? Who cares, deal with it.).

2) They have three new girls trying out this week – Amber, Mia and Jasmine. You can learn more on the website (www.beaufort-dayspa.com) about their availability. Amber is here Mon-Thursday only and then heading home to Vietnam, and is getting extremely good reviews.

3) They have announced that hot stone massage is available now, and costs $30 to upgrade your session. Hot cupping will be offered starting next week as will PEMF therapy (if you'd like to learn more about PEMF, read this: https://thesaltsuite.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/1-The-Science-Behind-PEMF-Therapy-and-How-It-Can-Fix-Your-Pain.pdf).

4) Finally, she urges guys who want an amazing deep tissue massage to try out Lina. Who doesn't speak English too well and is a MILF. But turns out to have trained under a famous master of Tuina in China. She says guys are raving about her bodywork.

I would go TOFTT with some of the other girls, but honestly, I'm running out of sperm. And I'm behind on reviews here, really busy at work right now.

End of PSA.

Kense
06-13-23, 13:31
Hey guys,

The MMS at Beaufort asked me to relay a note to "the forums" out there, and she is so sweet to me that I'm happy to do so. (FYI, I am NOT getting a discount or anything for this, I'm just being nice to all the girls there.) Anyway, this is what she sent me, and I'm passing it along!

1) First, Jennifer is working three days a week now Tuesday, Friday and Sunday. She's the star and if you want to see her, you need to prebook. She's usually fully booked every day. (I've reviewed Jennifer and I'm quite smitten, am I a simp? Who cares, deal with it.).

2) They have three new girls trying out this week Amber, Mia and Jasmine. You can learn more on the website (www.beaufort-dayspa.com) about their availability. Amber is here Mon-Thursday only and then heading home to Vietnam, and is getting extremely good reviews.

3) They have announced that hot stone massage is available now, and costs $30 to upgrade your session. Hot cupping will be offered starting next week as will PEMF therapy (if you'd like to learn more about PEMF, read this: https://thesaltsuite.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/02/1-The-Science-Behind-PEMF-Therapy-and-How-It-Can-Fix-Your-Pain.pdf)...You've been hyping this place up on several forums, you sure you're not getting some sort of kick backs? Other reports say this place is t that great.

JamesHolden
06-14-23, 18:43
Really, I'm not a shill. I'm just a guy who likes to be nice to girls.

It's my nature to be positive and respectful, but there seems to be a "bros before WG's" contingent that seems to feel threatened by this.


You've been hyping this place up on several forums, you sure you're not getting some sort of kick backs? Other reports say this place is t that great.

Kense
06-15-23, 18:28
Really, I'm not a shill. I'm just a guy who likes to be nice to girls.

It's my nature to be positive and respectful, but there seems to be a "bros before WG's" contingent that seems to feel threatened by this.That's great and all but you're on 3 different forums for this one spa that has mixed reviews. It raises red flags when you're only interested in information on one location.

VisibleNinja
06-15-23, 19:21
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BuckeyeNerd
06-21-23, 01:12
That's great and all but you're on 3 different forums for this one spa that has mixed reviews. It raises red flags when you're only interested in information on one location.+1 odd af. Over course of a few days you posted more on a single page about this place than the rest of the posts combined.

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06-26-23, 02:13
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JP316
06-26-23, 11:47
I'm heading to the area in about 10 days for work and it looks like GP is the way to go (it's within a block or two of my hotel and sounds like it's got a lot of options). I just have a few questions:

1. Am I wrong and there is a better choice in the same general area (5-10 minute walk).

2. Is there a best time to go where you'll have the best choice of ladies?

3. Any particular ladies there now that are top notch?

4. What's the 5-0 status in the area? Two of our biggest AMPs in our area have been raided lately so the normal paranoia is ratcheted up a little bit.

Thanks in advance!Heading to SFO today, anyone have any insight on this MP?

JP316
06-26-23, 21:14
Heading to SFO today, anyone have any insight on this MP?Ok, went to Golden Pearl today and would highly recommend nobody else bother wasting your time or money. Had a very lackluster line up and chose Shakira, she was boring and mechanical. No foreplay, no GFE, no MSOG, just in and out in 25 minutes.

ClosetPervert9
06-27-23, 13:49
Ok, went to Golden Pearl today and would highly recommend nobody else bother wasting your time or money. Had a very lackluster line up and chose Shakira, she was boring and mechanical. No foreplay, no GFE, no MSOG, just in and out in 25 minutes.Sorry to hear you had a bad time. Most of the girls there are touring girls they have 2 regulars and the other 4-10 girls are usually touring and there for a short time.

Ed Haskell
06-30-23, 18:45
+1 odd af. Over course of a few days you posted more on a single page about this place than the rest of the posts combined.Yes, the shill alarms are really going off. I've been to this place three times, and it's nothing like the way this guy describes it. First time was a decent massage and reluctant HJ by Grace, who was not remotely young or attractive, so no point going back. Now, after the re-brand, I've visited twice, and in my experience the talent is terrible. Can't recall the names, but both times the women were so fugly that I did want them to get near my junk and asked to see someone else. Then an over-the-hill but slightly more attractive Chinese lady with an OK body comes in to make fake moaning sounds while giving a mediocre handy. Will never return, and these sort of shill reviews really don't help.

The situation is so bad in SF these days compared to years past that it's really annoying to get your hopes up and then be presented with these options. Better to try your luck at Asian Palace, Empire or even Golden Pearl if you want anything approaching eye candy. The place way out on Geary is not worth the drive.

KittyElectro
07-08-23, 19:10
I'm visiting for the first time in a decade soon.

The last time I was here, I had a great happy massage at a place that I'm having trouble remembering.

I know it's a long shot asking, but the place was. Classy. In a decent part of the downtown area, I walked from my hotel, close to but not in chinatown. It was in an office a few floors up, well decorated, peaceful, and one of the best massages and endings I've ever had and I've been mongering for decades. It wasn't full service, just a massage and a handshake; I ended up getting FS at another place a few blocks up, but. I'm not looking for that, I'm looking for this. High quality massage, great handshake, peaceful classy / upscale joint.

Can anyone think of that place and know whether or not they're open?

If not, NBD, I'm sure I can find something here or on the San Mateo thread. Looks like Beufort is the big name right now, maybe I'll try Lina since she's apparently really good at the massage part.

Hartford473
07-09-23, 13:28
I'm visiting for the first time in a decade soon.

The last time I was here, I had a great happy massage at a place that I'm having trouble remembering.

I know it's a long shot asking, but the place was. Classy. In a decent part of the downtown area, I walked from my hotel, close to but not in chinatown. It was in an office a few floors up, well decorated, peaceful, and one of the best massages and endings I've ever had and I've been mongering for decades. It wasn't full service, just a massage and a handshake; I ended up getting FS at another place a few blocks up, but. I'm not looking for that, I'm looking for this. High quality massage, great handshake, peaceful classy / upscale joint.

Can anyone think of that place and know whether or not they're open?

If not, NBD, I'm sure I can find something here or on the San Mateo thread. Looks like Beufort is the big name right now, maybe I'll try Lina since she's apparently really good at the massage part.Might be Refresh spa on Sutter Street near Grant Ave.

KittyElectro
07-09-23, 21:04
Might be Refresh spa on Sutter Street near Grant Ave.Hmm. Google maps street view sparks a memory.

That could be it.

Are they still operating? I don't seem to be able to search an ad for them. Google only gives me old yelp and Facebook links, website listed there appears down, nothing on Rubrankings or STG.

ImageCreator
07-10-23, 10:22
Hmm. Google maps street view sparks a memory.

That could be it.

Are they still operating? I don't seem to be able to search an ad for them. Google only gives me old yelp and Facebook links, website listed there appears down, nothing on Rubrankings or STG.They're still there. You could also be remembering Union Square Stress Reduction, which I'd recommend if you want a BJ.

KittyElectro
07-10-23, 14:42
They're still there. You could also be remembering Union Square Stress Reduction, which I'd recommend if you want a BJ.Interesting. Google puts them in. The same building? Maybe I'll try both. Thanks for the update!

KittyElectro
07-10-23, 19:16
Interesting. Google puts them in. The same building? Maybe I'll try both. Thanks for the update!Actually, since I can't seem to find any additional info, is anyone willing to list what the damage there might be, or at AMPs downtown in general?

Back in the day, it was about. 7 to the house plus. 4 tip for a handshake, but tips have been going up in my neck of the woods, sometimes as high as $ or higher just for happiness. Is that the case here too?

ClosetPervert9
07-11-23, 17:25
Actually, since I can't seem to find any additional info, is anyone willing to list what the damage there might be, or at AMPs downtown in general?

Back in the day, it was about. 7 to the house plus. 4 tip for a handshake, but tips have been going up in my neck of the woods, sometimes as high as $ or higher just for happiness. Is that the case here too?It would depend on which location. Some of the places don't offer handshakes alone rather its a package. In the places that do allow handshakes you can get them for 40 but the provider will be unhappy with that usually. On the upper end handshakes are 80 (some quote 100 but this is just a bargaining trick so they can start high.) you can still get a 40 handshake though. I'm not a handshaker so I don't have a number for that personally.

ElPokeman007
07-11-23, 23:40
It would depend on which location. Some of the places don't offer handshakes alone rather its a package. In the places that do allow handshakes you can get them for 40 but the provider will be unhappy with that usually. On the upper end handshakes are 80 (some quote 100 but this is just a bargaining trick so they can start high.) you can still get a 40 handshake though. I'm not a handshaker so I don't have a number for that personally.I remember back in the day AMP in San Francisco was $50 for the house and $100 for FS for 45-60 minutes, now the price have gone up to $60 and $200 to provider. The provider told me if they give just handshake or BBBJ for less than the $200 they lose their turn, and appointment have to be for $260 total.

Raoul Duke
07-14-23, 18:44
You've been hyping this place up on several forums, you sure you're not getting some sort of kick backs? Other reports say this place is t that great.Cute 20-something year old with long hair showed me to a room, but the therapist who worked on me was easily in her 40's. Session was ok, but I was hoping for the girl who greeted me. I guess I'm shallow that way. If the greeter offers massage, I'd be happy to return. Unfortunately I didn't catch her name. Perhaps I'll try once more if I'm in the area. At least the place appeared to be relatively clean in comparison to some of the other joints sprinkled throughout the city.

Kiphmi
07-15-23, 01:52
I'm going to stay until next week. If you know a place you can recommend, please share it.

ImageCreator
07-15-23, 11:00
Cute 20-something year old with long hair showed me to a room, but the therapist who worked on me was easily in her 40's. Session was ok, but I was hoping for the girl who greeted me. I guess I'm shallow that way. If the greeter offers massage, I'd be happy to return. Unfortunately I didn't catch her name. Perhaps I'll try once more if I'm in the area. At least the place appeared to be relatively clean in comparison to some of the other joints sprinkled throughout the city.I wouldn't even say Beaufort is clean or unclean. It's tidy. Nothing special. If you care about facilities, there are far more updated places around the city, as far as floors / bathrooms / tables etc go. Enchanting, just a few blocks away, is more updated.

MagistyX
07-19-23, 21:39
Visiting and Lookin for AMPs in Daly city or San Bruno! I'm ok with he but wondering if there are an FS ones?

ImageCreator
07-22-23, 01:13
Visiting and Lookin for AMPs in Daly city or San Bruno! I'm ok with he but wondering if there are an FS ones?None come to mind, but Nirvana Bay Spa is down at the south end of SF (by city college) so fairly close to Daly city, and it's FS (60 house plus 140-200 tip depending on your negotiating).

TPotSum
07-22-23, 16:18
None come to mind, but Nirvana Bay Spa is down at the south end of SF (by city college) so fairly close to Daly city, and it's FS (60 house plus 140-200 tip depending on your negotiating).Young or Old? Hows service like?

Liwela2073
07-24-23, 17:33
I've been seeing these posts on PD for FBDM from a beautiful (9+/10) girl for $180 over HH. They all have a few reviews (5-15) that makes them appear real. I'm mainly looking in LA and SF.

My issue is that while they appear real, $180 feels like it's below market rate, and the pics are obviously not real. This is only for FBSM, they're clear about not being full service. Now, the reviews do mention that the pics aren't real but still favorably attractive (which I understand as many massage places use fake pics), there are profiles that use similar usernames (uppercase + lower case etc), and that there are multiple profiles at the $180 mark, similarly attractive girls, and similar description in the bio.

Am I over thinking this? Is this a new group of provider (who're advertising on behalf of the provider?) Or is this LE?

JP316
07-24-23, 21:38
I've been seeing these posts on PD for FBDM from a beautiful (9+/10) girl for $180 over HH. They all have a few reviews (5-15) that makes them appear real. I'm mainly looking in LA and SF.

My issue is that while they appear real, $180 feels like it's below market rate, and the pics are obviously not real. This is only for FBSM, they're clear about not being full service. Now, the reviews do mention that the pics aren't real but still favorably attractive (which I understand as many massage places use fake pics), there are profiles that use similar usernames (uppercase + lower case etc), and that there are multiple profiles at the $180 mark, similarly attractive girls, and similar description in the bio.

Am I over thinking this? Is this a new group of provider (who're advertising on behalf of the provider?) Or is this LE?I was just thinking about this as I scrolled through and my first thought was "this has to be LE", so, even if everyone on this board tells me it's not, I'm not going to be putting that risk out there for myself.

Kense
07-24-23, 22:57
I've been seeing these posts on PD for FBDM from a beautiful (9+/10) girl for $180 over HH. They all have a few reviews (5-15) that makes them appear real. I'm mainly looking in LA and SF.

My issue is that while they appear real, $180 feels like it's below market rate, and the pics are obviously not real. This is only for FBSM, they're clear about not being full service. Now, the reviews do mention that the pics aren't real but still favorably attractive (which I understand as many massage places use fake pics), there are profiles that use similar usernames (uppercase + lower case etc), and that there are multiple profiles at the $180 mark, similarly attractive girls, and similar description in the bio.

Am I over thinking this? Is this a new group of provider (who're advertising on behalf of the provider?) Or is this LE?PD reviews are fake. Nobody that is above a 5 in looks is charging less than $400 per hour.

Asphalt
07-27-23, 10:18
Might be Refresh spa on Sutter Street near Grant Ave.I'll be in that area in a week or so as well. Also for me it's been a long time since I've been downtown San Fran. This looks like a place I'll try as it's close to my hotel and I have only a short time. It seems they only off HE but will they get nude as well, or at least allow access?

JoeHans
07-31-23, 23:32
Looking into new places and saw an ad for this place, looks relatively new. Has anyone been?

Neo12
08-02-23, 14:26
Looking into new places and saw an ad for this place, looks relatively new. Has anyone been?I haven't been myself, but it looks like a place where they would have old ugly aunt Asian women. Go check it out and let us know.

ClosetPervert9
08-03-23, 02:06
Looking into new places and saw an ad for this place, looks relatively new. Has anyone been?Looks new?! Nope. This place is old as dirt.

Perving
08-14-23, 11:52
Yes, the shill alarms are really going off. I've been to this place three times, and it's nothing like the way this guy describes it. First time was a decent massage and reluctant HJ by Grace, who was not remotely young or attractive, so no point going back. Now, after the re-brand, I've visited twice, and in my experience the talent is terrible. Can't recall the names, but both times the women were so fugly that I did want them to get near my junk and asked to see someone else. Then an over-the-hill but slightly more attractive Chinese lady with an OK body comes in to make fake moaning sounds while giving a mediocre handy. Will never return, and these sort of shill reviews really don't help.

The situation is so bad in SF these days compared to years past that it's really annoying to get your hopes up and then be presented with these options. Better to try your luck at Asian Palace, Empire or even Golden Pearl if you want anything approaching eye candy. The place way out on Geary is not worth the drive.I'm heading to SF next month. Was thinking of trying the Golden Pearl. Anyone been here recently or the other's that are mentioned here? Any idea on damage I can expect?

Spontaneous
08-15-23, 18:18
I am heading to Fisherman's Wharf next Sunday. Anyone have any suggestions in the vicinity? Thanks!!

WoodWorker72
08-16-23, 10:15
Hoping there's a good one that's near the sfo area. I'll be there this Wednesday evening and Thursday late morning.

Thanks!

ImageCreator
08-16-23, 11:38
I am heading to Fisherman's Wharf next Sunday. Anyone have any suggestions in the vicinity? Thanks!!I assume you're looking for something close. Go to the massage spot on Bat street. It's right next to Goodfellas pizza, across the street from a big gym. It's up a little flight of stairs that lead to the front door.