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Hos Def
03-20-07, 19:38
Hope that place RM talked about is still there. Been going to amp's since 1998, never had a latina!

Trying to put together a mongering handbook for the newbies. Gotta have some etiquette, when going to these places and posting reports.

Keep the Valley alive!

Johnnie F
03-20-07, 20:53
I'm a newbie to this board and seek some advice. The last few months I've been exploring places around LA and managed to find a nice fs KAMP with good to great girls. However, every time I go there (8 times) I get a new girl! Shouldn't complain, but a couple of the girls have been *great* and I've asked which days they work, return those days but they're not there! In contrast, with the other categories of AMPS (from legit to bj) the staff is pretty regular from my experience.

What gives? Is there a circle of experienced fs girls who circulate around various places and pass each one only once every few months? Do they go back to the homeland? Do they just do this when they're not employed in a porno or something? I'm going to ask the next one but for the most part their language skills aren't geat and I don't like to appear nosy.

Confused

Kampfire
03-21-07, 15:06
Get to know the mamasan. Call her ahead of time. If she knows who you are, and likes you, she'll tell you. You are a walking $ for them. Let her know who your favorite is. What about the girl too? Treat her very well, and she'll want you coming back asap. Those girls LOVE their regular$! Keep on amp'n!


I'm a newbie to this board and seek some advice. The last few months I've been exploring places around LA and managed to find a nice fs KAMP with good to great girls. However, every time I go there (8 times) I get a new girl! Shouldn't complain, but a couple of the girls have been *great* and I've asked which days they work, return those days but they're not there! In contrast, with the other categories of AMPS (from legit to bj) the staff is pretty regular from my experience.

What gives? Is there a circle of experienced fs girls who circulate around various places and pass each one only once every few months? Do they go back to the homeland? Do they just do this when they're not employed in a porno or something? I'm going to ask the next one but for the most part their language skills aren't geat and I don't like to appear nosy.

Confused

Vlad De Sade
03-22-07, 01:23
Newbie,

JF, bro its the nature of the beast. Yes, they rotate to other Kamps. Yes, they do go home. And sometimes they create completely new lives!

Just keep on going back if YOU found a "real Kamp" and keep on banging. If YOU can afford it?

Do not over think this hobby. YOU got a dick & $$$. Each K girl has a pussy & deep pockets... Thus, the circle is complete. YOU get laid & she gets paid...

Smile & enjoy those sweet LBFM's! I do...

Peace, V da Sadist

Courtrat
03-22-07, 14:28
I remember one K girl even saving up to open a jewelry store. She had been saving for over 3 years. I think she got busted right before her plan came true.

But sometimes if you are friendly the girl will tell you where else she works on which days. Usually they work at different places owned by the same person.


Newbie, JF, bro its the nature of the beast. Yes, they rotate to other Kamps. Yes, they do go home. And sometimes they create completely new lives!

Just keep on going back if YOU found a "real Kamp" and keep on banging. If YOU can afford it?

Do not over think this hobby. YOU got a dick & $$$. Each K girl has a pussy & deep pockets. Thus, the circle is complete. YOU get laid & she gets paid.

Smile & enjoy those sweet LBFM's! I do.

Peace, V da Sadist

Kampfire
03-22-07, 17:32
Oh yes, and for god sake LISTEN to Vlad here "Do Not Get Attached".

You can find 20 just like her at any given moment if you do your homework.

Christ, and with Jackson here, you can increase your game 10-fold in a week. Careful, you'll burn your wick out! ;)

Keep on amp'n!


Newbie, JF, bro its the nature of the beast. Yes, they rotate to other Kamps. Yes, they do go home. And sometimes they create completely new lives!

Just keep on going back if YOU found a "real Kamp" and keep on banging. If YOU can afford it?

Do not over think this hobby. YOU got a dick & $$$. Each K girl has a pussy & deep pockets. Thus, the circle is complete. YOU get laid & she gets paid.

Smile & enjoy those sweet LBFM's! I do.

Peace, V da Sadist

Kampfire
03-22-07, 17:38
Here is the new report in the L.A. Times about the O.C. massage/chiro/accupunture clinic busts. I realize most have probably read or heard about it, but for those that may have not, here is the info.

ps- I nearly spit coffee all over my screen reading the lines about the "plastic wrap". LOL

Here is the article:

Six charged after O.C. investigation turns up ring of 10 brothels
By H.G. Reza, Times Staff Writer
2:31 PM PDT, March 22, 2007

Six people were in custody today and charged with pimping and operating 10 brothels staffed by Chinese prostitutes.

Law enforcement officials said the ring was broken up after a three-year investigation by local and federal agencies in the largest such investigation in Orange County. The ring, which police suspect may have included 30 brothels, also allegedly operated in Los Angeles and Riverside counties.
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FOR THE RECORD:
An earlier version of this story said that police broke up a prostitution ring of more than 30 brothels, but the correct number is 10. Police suspect the ring could be as large as 30 houses of prostitution.—

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The brothels, operated by five Chinese nationals and an American, were advertised as acupuncture centers and massage parlors, but sex was the only service offered, Orange County Dist. Atty. Tony Rackauckas said at a news conference today.

In an apparent effort to economize, customers were asked to use plastic food wrap instead of condoms. Jian Shi, a 49-year-old Montebello resident and ringleader, purchased 7,500 square feet of plastic wrap over a two-month period, said Rackauckas.

"I really don't think about [plastic food wrap] in the same way anymore," the district attorney said.

Anaheim police Capt. Joe Reiss said 15 of the massage parlors and acupuncture centers allegedly run by Shi were in that city and 16 were elsewhere in Orange, Riverside and Los Angeles counties.

William J. Hayes, an investigator with U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, said the prostitutes were willing participants. Federal officials are checking the immigration status of those involved, who authorities said are ethnic Chinese. Ten women who are Chinese citizens have been charged with misdemeanor counts of prostitution, authorities said.

The others arrested were Hong Jun Bai, 42, of Rowland Heights; Guo Hua Chen, 56, Monterey Park; and Xueyan Yu, 49, Huntington Beach. Also arrested were John Couch, 46, and his wife, Yu Mei Cheng-Couch, 38, of San Clemente. The Couches allegedly operated a brothel in Dana Point.


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hgreza@latimes.com

Webcams
03-27-07, 00:19
That's a whole lot of Plastic Wrap!

I have heard they are moving away from the retail establishment and back to the residential houses which they have used for years, keeping the girls there to avoid detection from LE.

I am 1000% confident this activity continues with nearly a dent to the people who run these places.

Downside to heavy LE enforcement is the fact that they treat the women much worse and now in the shadows can abuse children as well.

Good Job LE!

Hos Def
03-27-07, 12:19
Hey Guys,

Last week I went back to this place in NOHO I've been to a few times before but didn't have enough to nego over f/s.

The girls I've had gave a pretty good massage w/ HJ. Both had cute faces with better than average bodies. So I stumble in last week about 6: 30 for my usual 30 min, but this time I had enough to nego some fs.

Usually the girl that answeres the door is what you get. No mama san. So this chick let's me in and I'm thinking damn, finally I got some paper and this girl is broken. She was 34 from China, when she smiled, it looked like she had been chewing on rocks. Her body was ok I guess, decent rack with a wierd mom asian girl ass, looked like a bag of socks.

She gave an ok massage, then on the flip she pulled the towel, so now I'm chillin aiming at the sky. I start to rub her leg and she gestures for a HJ. I them point to her mouth, she says 1. I then pointed at her puss she says same but we don't have time next time get one hour. So I said proceed with the HJ. I then began rubbing her tits and she says 2 to touch me. I laughed and put my hands back on the table and let her finish.

So I'm trying to go back when this particular girl is working. If she offers fs believe me fellas, she's worh it. Hott!

I will keep you guys posted. Go Valley!

Hos Def
04-04-07, 16:54
Hey Guys,

Someone mentioned they went to an amp and got a latina in the valley.

Can anyone pm me some info w/directons?

Getting bored with K,C,J girls.

Thanks

Patbutter
04-06-07, 03:09
Hey Guys,

Someone mentioned they went to an amp and got a latina in the valley.

Can anyone pm me some info w/directons?

Getting bored with K,C,J girls.

Thanks

I don't know about the valley, but if you really want a latina, pick up an LAXpress - several MP's in Inglewood and near downtown LA are advertising latinas

Hos Def
04-06-07, 13:33
I don't know about the valley, but if you really want a latina, pick up an LAXpress - several MP's in Inglewood and near downtown LA are advertising latinasThanks for the tip, might head out there today! They should start printing coupons in LAXpress, been spending too much on these little b@#ches!

God Bless there little hearts, if I had a girlfriend that would massage my grundle I would never spend another dime.

Webcams
04-09-07, 02:53
...........God Bless there little hearts, if I had a girlfriend that would massage my grundle I would never spend another dime.
Ya you would it would just be on other things, not to mention every woman get's old and boring.

We need variety, it's just the way were built.

Johnnie F
04-14-07, 16:00
Thanks to all for feedback on my message of 3/22. Good advice. Since then I've gone back a few times and run into repeat performances by luck (and by calling ahead); guess what, not so exciting second time around! Also went to a new place in West SFV (CAMP) advertized in LA Weekly where the girl asked if I was married; odd I thought. Then went to a place near the airport and ran into the same girl ... and the same question! She offered to pay me to take on a Chinese wife for the green card ... this was kind of a turnoff, as was the bj which reminded me of the world champ weiner eater (100 lb asian woman with amazing mouth speed).

So now I'm thinking maybe I'd prefer the escort/gfe experience. Getting tired of mediocre msg, mediocre extras (esp. with rotating girls), threat of le, etc. But I've been told that half of cl ads are by le -- any thruth in that? Safer seems to be thatmall with the reviews, but I guess that could also be rigged?

ReallyaNiceGuy
05-07-07, 01:12
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Checked out a new place today. Saw their ad on CL.
When I called I asked how much the massage was well when she said it was 120/30 & 140/60 I knew it wasn't one of those HJ places. Made an appointment for an hour later. The boss is Judy.

Saw Co Co, 25, Chinese from Beijing, in the US 4 months, good English. I guess about 5'2", 110-120, A/B cup, cute little ass and great legs.

I paid for 1 hour, took a quick shower and Co Co went right to work. I did what I could to slow her down but to no avail. She and the service was nice but rushed.

Light kissing on the lips, body kisses, CBJ, several positions and she did take a pounding and seemed to enjoy herself.

Understand there are several other girls there so I'll go back.

Mike

Richard More
05-07-07, 06:52
Place was advertising in CL and it was near my house. My neck was hurting so I said what the hell. This place is in tarzana, got the back massage and she tickled and rubbed my sack so on the flip mr happy was awake. Got the rubdown and I touched her tits and poped one out. I asked for FS but said can not do. Lady was Chinese about late 30's, be sized tits and full set of straight teeth. The massage was really good and the release was alright. Kind of getting bored of this though and I will haunt down some young latinas.

Webcams
05-08-07, 04:37
I am so tired of these overweight dirty Asians with there hairy snatch it is nasty.

I'll stick to the young Latinas, I can't imagine paying a 40 year old fat ugly Asian to suck my cock anymore. I miss the hot young shaved Asians.

The Flatline
05-11-07, 03:53
I am so tired of these overweight dirty Asians with there hairy snatch it is nasty.

I'll stick to the young Latinas, I can't imagine paying a 40 year old fat ugly Asian to suck my cock anymore. I miss the hot young shaved Asians.

You still find them from time to time... But I'm getting tired of the old ugly asian chicks too. They have to clench their thighs tight to even produce a sensation for you they're so worn out.

ReallyaNiceGuy
05-15-07, 17:53
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A friend of mine is located in this complex and told me LE was there today. Several were arrested and taken away.
Don't know about any others but I'll keep my eyes open and report back.

Be careful out there.

RaNG

soulassasin
05-15-07, 17:59
Went to 3 amp's and got lucky at one. Avoid the ones on Sunland Blvd and Van Nuys Blvd, totally legit and you will not get any extras. At the amp on SB I got a mid thirties korean who had a nice friendly attitude but was not really that good looking. I paid .50 at the door and .85 for fs. Saw another girl as I walked out but she was nothing special either. Will not go back unless they get better looking girls. If anyone has any info on any hot latinas please post or hit me up with a private message.

MPseeker
05-20-07, 16:09
Checked out an AMP on Riverside and Laurel Canyon last week. I arrived and was offered a table shower, which I accepted. The chinese girl (older) spent a fair bit of time focusing on my wang and balls. Got back to the room and had an average massage, after the flip I was offered a HJ but opted for a BBBJ for $80. Okay, but nothing great,

Spank Me
05-25-07, 04:12
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A friend of mine is located in this complex and told me LE was there today. Several were arrested and taken away.
Don't know about any others but I'll keep my eyes open and report back.

Be careful out there.

RaNG

Now that I think back, I saw all the sheriff cars and officers standing around the complex...they even blocked the driveways to the entire wing, and stood out in the center median on Lindero (no escaping that bust I guess). My original thought was it was a odd speed trap... I'll miss that place, it was nice.

ReallyaNiceGuy
05-25-07, 09:19
Now that I think back, I saw all the sheriff cars and officers standing around the complex...they even blocked the driveways to the entire wing, and stood out in the center median on Lindero (no escaping that bust I guess). My original thought was it was a odd speed trap... I'll miss that place, it was nice.

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I was talking about another place on TOB.
And I stopped by another further down the road and their sign was off.

So that makes at least 3 places they hit. Well at least we are all safe now being protected from all that going on in our neighborhood. LOL

Mike

Hos Def
05-30-07, 19:46
Hey Fellas,

Went to this spot last fri at around 8 pm. Been there before but it was a while ago. I must keep this location secret, as requested by the person who told me about this place. You would never know it was a kamp unless you walked through the door. There's no sign, no name, just a poster of a human body as you walk in, (something you would see in a doctor's office).

When I walked in, the lady who greeted me said, "hola". I thought YES! Been searching for a spot with latinas for sometime now. Never got any love/info from the seniors members on this web-site. Not gonna name any names, you know who you are.

So, I stroll in and she says mama-san not here tonight, I've never seen you. You've been here before? I say, "yes". She says ok, I have a good girl for you. I caght a glimps of the girl sitting behind the counter and I could tell she was latina and cute. So I head for the room strip down w/no towel on the butt she comes in. WOW, she's about 5'4, 110 lbs. Great ass and a nice rack.

She's wearing a mini skirt and a tube top. She says Hello,, with almost no accent. I ask her where she's from, she says, "Mexico City". Says she's 22. Says she's been in LA for 20 years. She had almost no accent at all.

I say, "what days to you work? " She says, "don't know yet today's my first day". YEEESSSSS! It's only getting better and better. She begins to grind her knuckels into my back, very weak attemp at a massage. After a minute of that, she begins with the rubbing/teasing with her nails, mostly on my ass and balls. She then did one of the best things ever. She basically was jerking me from underneath. She did a full reach from under the grundle for a good five minutes.

At that point, It was so good I almost busted lying face down. So, without anything being said, I decided to turn over voluntarily. She goes, "ok, well you want everything? " I say, "yes". She says, "How much do you usually pay here? " I say about 8. " She says, ok leaves the room and comes back 1 minute later ready to go. She starts with a great cbj for about a minute. We then did mish, she was rubbing herself and saying f**k me over and over. She's a true nymph. She really got into it. When I asked to go doggie, she walked over and turned the radio up so you couldn't hear her moaning and saying f**k me. She walked back over and stuck her ass in the sky and said ok give it to me hard. I'm thinking, finally got a winner. Finished after about 5 min of some serious doggie. She came back cleaned me up, and I asked if I could get her digits. She said yes. As I'm walking out, I noticed two other girls in the (breakroom/holding area). Both looked hispanic and hott. Can't wait to go back.

Overall, this place was great will definetly go back.

5 at door
8 for extras

service = 10
location = 8
girls = 9

Peace out, play safe.

Johnnie F
05-30-07, 23:07
Went by 3 places in Tarzana/Reseda today -- all closed with no signs. Haven't been there in a few weeks so not sure when they closed. I assume LE?

The Flatline
05-31-07, 19:20
Hey Fellas,

Went to this spot last fri at around 8 pm. Been there before but it was a while ago. I must keep this location secret, as requested by the person who told me about this place. You would never know it was a kamp unless you walked through the door. There's no sign, no name, just a poster of a human body as you walk in, (something you would see in a doctor's office).

When I walked in, the lady who greeted me said, "hola". I thought YES! Been searching for a spot with latinas for sometime now. Never got any love/info from the seniors members on this web-site. Not gonna name any names, you know who you are.


I'm detecting some anger here, and while I can understand it, it's a little bit unfair for those that *do* share what info they have. That being said, if you intent to keep the place a total secret, why even bother posting? I guess it's a bragging thing.

Hos Def
05-31-07, 21:45
I'm detecting some anger here, and while I can understand it, it's a little bit unfair for those that *do* share what info they have. That being said, if you intent to keep the place a total secret, why even bother posting? I guess it's a bragging thing.Not angry bro, just a bit frustrated. Since I started posting, I've sent a couple pm's to some of the senior members w/info on places I've been to in the valley.

Now, on the flip side, when I've asked for info the response I get is, " I don't think I know you, with so little posts you seem to be asking for info quite often. "

I can understand if someone is paranoid that I'm le which I'm not! Or whatever the reason may be for not sharing. But what do I gotta do to show you I'm a fellow monger? Some guys are savvy enough to get pictures. Thats cool, I get to see these chicks that you're banging but you won't let anyone else get some. I'd consider that bragging!

So ultimatly, what do we use this site for?

I thought it was to give detailed but discreet reports on these places and to share with each other?

So why am I driving from sylmar to west la for a rub & tug?

I guess you could call this trade bait. Would like to find a place like this without having to put $25 in gas. Perhaps someone else is in the same bind?

Honestly, this place was so good I don't mind making the drive. (just expensive and time consuming). I am happy to say that my quest is over. I've found my mini version of tj!

What kind of world do we live in, when we can't even share rented twat?

Peace out

Vlad De Sade
06-01-07, 03:12
HD,

Bro, just gotta say: YOU have a very utopian ideal of mongering. YOU are probably a nice guy.

However, the SFV is dead. RTFF has been officially since Oct' 2004!!!

Now, as far as "real KAMPs" are concerned we are left w/only ROB's and jokes...

Sad to say it agian but YOU missed the salad days of mongering for fine Latinas & Asians in da valley. That s**t lasted from 1998 - 2004. And it was GOOD!!!

I feel for YOU only because YOU missed the ride. Either YOU are too young, from another county or YOU just figured out that hunting for pussy is a great hobby.

To little to late what ever the case may be. YOU are gonna have to pay for gas $$$ and drive to: SGV, SM, H, BP, I. These are the only choices YOU have left for real Amp fun in LA County.

So good luck, relax and quit being frustrated w/a bunch of strange dudes YOU will never monger w/cause our valley is dead.

Seriously, anybody that gives this guy, or anyone else for that matter, vital intel over the open threads is an idiot. Use our valuable PM feature. And if YOU are ignored by seniors deal w/it on the down lo like everyone else.

At this point newbies beware: YOU are on your own!!!

RTFF!!! LE has destroyed "real amp" hobbying in the SFV forever. And any incalls are a closed circle. Sorry, but YOU are not granfathered in. So YOU are SOL...

Peace, V da Sadist

Webcams
06-01-07, 15:15
LE closed the AMPS.

Amp owners responded by going underground, "hiring" much much younger chicas, adding certain extras to the menu, this increased there bottom line as now they make money on the backside of the party favors, they found upscale clientele they do quality not quantity.

In the end LE got what they wanted out of sight out of mind.

Only "problem" is organized crime is making millions somewhere maybe next door to you?

No one lucky enough to really know of these places is stupid enough to post about them.

1) No one is helping the pigs waste taxpayer money.
2) No one is risking there cool Sopranos style hangout with illegal drugs, gambling, young w.hores etc etc.
3) No one is risking angering there new found Gangster friends.

LE won the battle but sadly lost the war.

Hos Def
06-01-07, 19:40
Vlad,

Didn't mean to cause any turmoil with my last post. Just sharing my thoughts.

As you may think I'm a "newbie" having so few posts. I've been mongering in SFV since the late 90's. Just recently saw this site and read reports for sometime before posting one myself.

I learned quickly about PM'S and not reporting anything detailed in these threads. (common sense).

Was just a bit irritated with a senior whom I've shared more than one spot with. (one being my top spot before I found mini TJ). So, you can understand why I was frustrated when he wouldn't give me any intel on a spot he posted about.

However, I appreciate your opinions and I take everthing in stride. Don't want to make any enemies here, just wanted to be part of this underground mongering society. U.M.G. (gonna try to form a union).

Aslo, not sure if anyone cares to meet others from this site, but I thought it would be fun to rent a bus/van and take a trip to Mexico's red light district. Don't know how many people would be down, but we should try to coordinate a friday trip there and back. I don't really have friends who monger so I never have anyone to go to TJ with.

Any thoughts?

HD

The Flatline
06-01-07, 23:12
Not angry bro, just a bit frustrated. Since I started posting, I've sent a couple pm's to some of the senior members w/info on places I've been to in the valley.

Now, on the flip side, when I've asked for info the response I get is, " I don't think I know you, with so little posts you seem to be asking for info quite often. "

I can understand if someone is paranoid that I'm le which I'm not! Or whatever the reason may be for not sharing. But what do I gotta do to show you I'm a fellow monger? Some guys are savvy enough to get pictures. Thats cool, I get to see these chicks that you're banging but you won't let anyone else get some. I'd consider that bragging!

So ultimatly, what do we use this site for?

I thought it was to give detailed but discreet reports on these places and to share with each other?

So why am I driving from sylmar to west la for a rub & tug?

I guess you could call this trade bait. Would like to find a place like this without having to put $25 in gas. Perhaps someone else is in the same bind?

Honestly, this place was so good I don't mind making the drive. (just expensive and time consuming). I am happy to say that my quest is over. I've found my mini version of tj!

What kind of world do we live in, when we can't even share rented twat?

Peace out


Understood where you're coming from, but I started in the same position too. I didn't ask questions much, usually I could glean the info I needed from posts, but in the end I just started posting useful information, while being somewhat oblique. I hit popular places, made reports on girls others hadn't tried, interjected myself into a few conversations, and while I don't have a high post count, if I ask someone for some info (which I rarely do unless I am positive I want to indulge) chances are I'll get it.

I wasn't frustrated, or upset, I know this is how it goes. This is about LE and trust. You see people coming in with less than 5 posts asking for numbers and hook ups and you have to wonder.

I'm more than willing to share what info I have, as you can see elsewhere in the forum.

ReallyaNiceGuy
06-02-07, 12:24
Hey HD,

I just read your post and felt your pain. I might even be one of the ones you were referring to.

But you, and other new people, have to understand that things are a lot different today than they were a few years ago on this board. Back then hardly anybody know about this site and we felt kind of safe posting and sharing info with others. Then everything changed and we saw it time and time again, someone would post about a place and in no time at all it was closed. We just can't do that anymore. We have to play it safe now.

I like your style of writing and not giving out exact info about location/phone etc. That's wise and safe for everybody. Thank You!

I'll tell you what, I'd be up for meeting you sometime. If you want to do that just send me a PM.

And oh yea, I'm going to TJ next weekend.

Remember that old saying, "Good things come to those who wait"

See ya.

Hos Def
06-02-07, 14:57
Understood where you're coming from, but I started in the same position too. I didn't ask questions much, usually I could glean the info I needed from posts, but in the end I just started posting useful information, while being somewhat oblique. I hit popular places, made reports on girls others hadn't tried, interjected myself into a few conversations, and while I don't have a high post count, if I ask someone for some info (which I rarely do unless I am positive I want to indulge) chances are I'll get it.

I wasn't frustrated, or upset, I know this is how it goes. This is about LE and trust. You see people coming in with less than 5 posts asking for numbers and hook ups and you have to wonder.

I'm more than willing to share what info I have, as you can see elsewhere in the forum.Hey Flatline,

You are right, it is about trust and LE. I understand that now being on both sides of the spectrum. I had to recently deny some top secrtet intel to a member with less than 5 posts. I should have realized that it may take sometime to get into the "circle of trust". But, like I said I was frustrated and as a result you had to read it in my post. So sorry if I've offended any of you seniors members. Just spent way too much $$ getting denied at legit amp's. (probably one of the worst things ever)!

I'm willing to share intel, but as one of the more decorated seniors has suggested, it might be safer to exchange info in person. (as much as I don't want to meet any of you dirtbags) JK. It's probably the best way as sending a pm can be risky if you don't know who's on the other end.

Unfortunatly, I have to suspend my mongering for the next couple of months as I'm traveling out of the country. (Gotta save some $$$ for the international "physical therapists").

Play safe fellas.

HD

The Flatline
06-03-07, 00:34
Hey Flatline,

You are right, it is about trust and LE. I understand that now being on both sides of the spectrum. I had to recently deny some top secrtet intel to a member with less than 5 posts. I should have realized that it may take sometime to get into the "circle of trust". But, like I said I was frustrated and as a result you had to read it in my post. So sorry if I've offended any of you seniors members. Just spent way too much $$ getting denied at legit amp's. (probably one of the worst things ever)!

I'm willing to share intel, but as one of the more decorated seniors has suggested, it might be safer to exchange info in person. (as much as I don't want to meet any of you dirtbags) JK. It's probably the best way as sending a pm can be risky if you don't know who's on the other end.

Unfortunatly, I have to suspend my mongering for the next couple of months as I'm traveling out of the country. (Gotta save some $$$ for the international "physical therapists").

Play safe fellas.

HD

No sweat. I know how it can be frustrating, but time and effort will pay off. I lucked out in that I work frequently in oxnard and ventura, and so I didn't have to travel far to get some AMP action going. Hell, at that point I could randomly pick an AMP down in Oxnard and so long as I acted like I knew what I was doing, I scored gold.

G'luck with the trip. I've wanted to take one, I've heard some wild stories.

Webcams
06-04-07, 06:21
Vlad,

I don't really have friends who monger so I never have anyone to go to TJ with.

Any thoughts?

HDGood Idea I am up for Vegas as well, but LE would have fun catching our bus so maybe not the best idea.

I am torn. Oh and hosdef you DO have friends that monger it just hasn't come up yet. Don't bring it up first, but I am under the impression men go to s/w's strippers escorts amps kamps lamps and any and everything they can put there cock into, including there wives sisters if given half the chance Keep your head up tj sounds good.

Webcams
06-04-07, 06:25
.....made reports on girls others hadn't tried ..That is always a good thing I guy that will TOFTT is Great, we have all done it it works out maybe 50/50% of the time. But it is always nice to get others input on things. RTFF is a good rule, I had to RTFF this weekend and it wasn't anywhere as interesting as our LA boards where i went, reports spaced weeks apart sometimes. Easily amps were not as popular there but s/w risky out of state. Settled on High Class CG which will upset the guys in Vegas when I post the breakdown. Fuck ya only live once, Might head out and catch a bargain tonight as well.

Tigers777
06-04-07, 19:41
Hello gentleman,

Does any one have any info on massage parlors in sfv that have Armenian, russian or some hot latinas working there. I used to know few but they are all closed down now. Thanks for the help.

Tiger

Vlad De Sade
06-05-07, 03:36
New guy,

I got YOU.

Get in your car. Head for the nearest freeway. The 101 or the 118. Get to the 405 and exit at Nordhoff. Turn towards SB. Now head for Parthenia. At SB & Parthenia head east towards Columbus, Noble, etc. On the South side of Parthenia, east of SB, is your destination Mia's!

Park on the sidewalk in front. Or in the back if the hood scares YOU!

Ask for Mia or Tina the mamasan's. They will have both Asians & Latins available. Sorry, no Armenians. I recommend Angie & Heidi respectively. Sweet jesus Heidi has some great fake bolt ons. What a Hyna. And Angie looks like Miss South Korea.

Dropframe, CrazyBuzz1985, Buddhahead, Northridgeboy, EasyRider2, etc. know what I am talking about.

Don't forget to pay the house fee. $40 for 1/2 hr. Or $70 for an hour. Plus, a tip. Atleast $80 for FS.

Then head for your private room, w/locking door, and ask for a free bottle of water from the fridge.

Wait about 3 minutes for an amazing asian, 10+ model type, to knock on your door. Get naked. I do. And have fun. Yeah, YOU can skip the massage. And get busy tapping that LBFM's ass!

Have fun and dont forget to post all your favorite exploits here...

Seriously, RTFF!!!

Peace, V da Sadist

Hos Def
06-05-07, 11:39
I am torn. Oh and hosdef you DO have friends that monger it just hasn't come up yet. Don't bring it up first,QUOTE]Funny you say that web. One of my good (conservative) friends asked me over the weekend if I new of a good rub & tug? "Hell yeah", I responded. Sent him to a decent hj spot in the valley just to brake him in. Didn't want to scare him with a thirty something, over weight, cock-eyed asian lady. (have seen my share of those).

In the process of recruiting some troops for TJ. I want to go down there with a mongering army and destroy everything in our path!

Viva la Mexico!

Tigers777
06-05-07, 12:32
Vlad De Sade,

Thanks for the info, I live not to far from that location.

Tiger

DropFrame
06-05-07, 17:24
Vlad De Sade

Please don't be giving away out well kept secrets to the OBVIOUS newcomers on the site. You know as well as I do what a wonderful surprise he is in store for at the appointed place. I can only hope that he will post and tell us about his adventures. The maybe next time he will be the one telling someone RTFF.

ReallyaNiceGuy
06-07-07, 09:24
Vlad De Sade,

Thanks for the info, I live not to far from that location.

Tiger

. . . we don't like to share info with new guys!
Unbelievable.
Can you imagine this guy running around YOUR favorite place telling them that you sent him? Not me.

RaNG

Wireless91910
06-07-07, 18:10
What Mia's is re-open. I'm on my way up the 405!!

I remember one session I couldn't concentrate because the guy next to me was killing her. I couldn't stop laughing. Anyone know who that was?

Wireless91910

Bobby O
06-08-07, 02:25
Mia's was great! Ahhhh the good old days.

Moondr
06-08-07, 03:13
Will try too. I have a lot of experiance in SGV but never had anything in SFV


New guy,

I got YOU.

Get in your car. Head for the nearest freeway. The 101 or the 118. Get to the 405 and exit at Nordhoff. Turn towards SB. Now head for Parthenia. At SB & Parthenia head east towards Columbus, Noble, etc. On the South side of Parthenia, east of SB, is your destination Mia's!

Park on the sidewalk in front. Or in the back if the hood scares YOU!

Ask for Mia or Tina the mamasan's. They will have both Asians & Latins available. Sorry, no Armenians. I recommend Angie & Heidi respectively. Sweet jesus Heidi has some great fake bolt ons. What a Hyna. And Angie looks like Miss South Korea.

Dropframe, CrazyBuzz1985, Buddhahead, Northridgeboy, EasyRider2, etc. Know what I am talking about.

Don't forget to pay the house fee. $40 for 1/2 hr. Or $70 for an hour. Plus, a tip. Atleast $80 for FS.

Then head for your private room, w/locking door, and ask for a free bottle of water from the fridge.

Wait about 3 minutes for an amazing asian, 10+ model type, to knock on your door. Get naked. I do. And have fun. Yeah, YOU can skip the massage. And get busy tapping that LBFM's ass!

Have fun and don't forget to post all your favorite exploits here.

Seriously, RTFF!

Peace, V da Sadist

Vlad De Sade
06-09-07, 04:23
Mongers,

I was playing w/that newbie!

Mia's is an Iglesia, or church of Christ, now.

For that matter my old favorite is now a f**king Numero Uno pizza parlor. Holy s**t, I left a lot of jizz splattted all over the K girls @ T thearapy...

WTF!!!

I am sorry if I got anybody excited.

I thought my sarcasm & RTFF comment were enough to make a point!

The SFV is dead!

Peace, V da Sadist

Wireless91910
06-09-07, 20:38
Mongers,

I was playing w/that newbie!

Mia's is an Iglesia, or church of Christ, now.

For that matter my old favorite is now a f**king Numero Uno pizza parlor. Holy s**t, I left a lot of jizz splattted all over the K girls @ T thearapy...

WTF!!!

I am sorry if I got anybody excited.

I thought my sarcasm & RTFF comment were enough to make a point!

The SFV is dead!

Peace, V da Sadist

Vlad,

Trust me I would have known if Mia's was re-open again.

Have fond memories of cycling thru the talent one day. 3 in 4 hours. Slept like a baby.

Hey I heard about a new AMP opening near Atlantic/Firestone. Hou.. something. :-)


Wireless91910

AMPaddict
06-11-07, 00:02
Lmao! Actually don't know if I should laugh at this post, or cry in memory of the good old Mia's.

Ampaddict


New guy,

I got YOU.

Get in your car. Head for the nearest freeway. The 101 or the 118. Get to the 405 and exit at Nordhoff. Turn towards SB. Now head for Parthenia. At SB & Parthenia head east towards Columbus, Noble, etc. On the South side of Parthenia, east of SB, is your destination Mia's!

Park on the sidewalk in front. Or in the back if the hood scares YOU!

Ask for Mia or Tina the mamasan's. They will have both Asians & Latins available. Sorry, no Armenians. I recommend Angie & Heidi respectively. Sweet jesus Heidi has some great fake bolt ons. What a Hyna. And Angie looks like Miss South Korea.

Dropframe, CrazyBuzz1985, Buddhahead, Northridgeboy, EasyRider2, etc. Know what I am talking about.

Don't forget to pay the house fee. $40 for 1/2 hr. Or $70 for an hour. Plus, a tip. Atleast $80 for FS.

Then head for your private room, w/locking door, and ask for a free bottle of water from the fridge.

Wait about 3 minutes for an amazing asian, 10+ model type, to knock on your door. Get naked. I do. And have fun. Yeah, YOU can skip the massage. And get busy tapping that LBFM's ass!

Have fun and don't forget to post all your favorite exploits here.

Seriously, RTFF!

Peace, V da Sadist

FedEx
06-13-07, 16:51
That was hillarious!

In case you guys don't know, Vlad was the lettuce in the salad days of the SFV... LOL

Peace,
Fedex




New guy,

I got YOU.

Get in your car. Head for the nearest freeway. The 101 or the 118. Get to the 405 and exit at Nordhoff. Turn towards SB. Now head for Parthenia. At SB & Parthenia head east towards Columbus, Noble, etc. On the South side of Parthenia, east of SB, is your destination Mia's!

Park on the sidewalk in front. Or in the back if the hood scares YOU!

Ask for Mia or Tina the mamasan's. They will have both Asians & Latins available. Sorry, no Armenians. I recommend Angie & Heidi respectively. Sweet jesus Heidi has some great fake bolt ons. What a Hyna. And Angie looks like Miss South Korea.

Dropframe, CrazyBuzz1985, Buddhahead, Northridgeboy, EasyRider2, etc. know what I am talking about.

Don't forget to pay the house fee. $40 for 1/2 hr. Or $70 for an hour. Plus, a tip. Atleast $80 for FS.

Then head for your private room, w/locking door, and ask for a free bottle of water from the fridge.

Wait about 3 minutes for an amazing asian, 10+ model type, to knock on your door. Get naked. I do. And have fun. Yeah, YOU can skip the massage. And get busy tapping that LBFM's ass!

Have fun and dont forget to post all your favorite exploits here...

Seriously, RTFF!!!

Peace, V da Sadist

Latnlykr
06-20-07, 12:55
First time writing a post so please be patient with me.

I was pretty horny and decided to try this place TOFTT

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/ers/354669290.html

1St lady was not in pic. Pd. 5 for hr on entering, took me to a nice private room but no showers, she comes back (same one who answers phone) she doesn't speak much english, not a looker, but very good hands started with straight massage, let my hands roam then on the flip tried to negotiate DATY but refused. So I settled w/tug (. 5).

What I wanted to know is this a normal first visit, and should I go back and try again. Note I did see another girl who looked better but couldn't get her to tell me how I can see any other girls. Any one can help?

Zlmmm
06-20-07, 22:05
Latnlykr,

It is very unlikely you will get more than a tug at any of the places that advertise on CL with "No Full Service", no matter how many times you revisit. Best skip those. For AMPs you should probably skip the SFV entirely and hit Oxnard if that is accessible for you.


http://losangeles.craigslist.org/sfv/ers/354669290.html

1St lady was not in pic. Pd. 5 for hr on entering, took me to a nice private room but no showers, she comes back (same one who answers phone) she doesn't speak much english, not a looker, but very good hands started with straight massage, let my hands roam then on the flip tried to negotiate DATY but refused. So I settled w/tug (. 5).

What I wanted to know is this a normal first visit, and should I go back and try again. Note I did see another girl who looked better but couldn't get her to tell me how I can see any other girls. Any one can help?

Hofodickfo
06-21-07, 22:29
Was browsing the CL.. are these BS? Seems the pics must be fake.

http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/ers/357484852.html
http://losangeles.craigslist.org/lac/ers/357483344.html

Vlad De Sade
06-23-07, 02:25
Newbie,

This is a terrible time to begin mongering in da SFV.

Our beloved valley is dead!

YOU will not get anything, (FS, bj, hj, etc) at any of these places. Either in NoHo or anywhere else for that matter. All that are left for YOU are: Rob's, wasted gas $$$, ridiculous quotes to get an old Chinese woman to tug your crank. Ha, ha, ha LOL.

It is a damn shame YOU missed out when the valley was off da hook w/hot, young providers all the way from Woodland Hills to Sherman Oaks. Streets like SB, VN, Roscoe, Sherman Way, Devonshire, Topanga, etc were all laden w/top notch Amps. They all had a nice mix of mostly Kgirls.

Oh well, bro take my advice. Get on the road and travel for all the LBFM's YOU can slay...

Incall is a private circle in da valley. No newbies. LE has ruined it for YOU all. And any ad that says no full service is a scam. Also, I dont trust craigs list 85% of the time. Try City Vibe. Enter escorts. And begin your fun. Good times, good times I say. Expensive but worth it IMHO!

Peace, V da Sadist

P.S. FedEx, bro happy I made YOU smile... (let me know if ya need any new valley incall intel?)

Hofodickfo
06-23-07, 22:22
Vlad, thanks for the information. Appreciate it very much.

The Flatline
06-26-07, 14:38
Latnlykr,

It is very unlikely you will get more than a tug at any of the places that advertise on CL with "No Full Service", no matter how many times you revisit. Best skip those. For AMPs you should probably skip the SFV entirely and hit Oxnard if that is accessible for you.

Quoted for truth.

Come to Oxnard. There's a good 8 or so AMPs in Oxnard alone (don't bother with Ventura) that have achieved legendary status. I've gotten action at every amp I've visited in, often times without having to negotiate anything. Good times.

Richard More
06-27-07, 05:36
Yes I found me another spot in the valley with FS.

Fine looking Columbian girl. Nice the size tits implants but looked and felt awsome, nice snatchy, damm cute too. Nice body and nice ASSS dammm I was in love. Sorry I can not share the info with you guys, but I found this spot with just a little research on the net.

Marlowe
06-27-07, 19:38
Yes I found me another spot in the valley with FS.

Fine looking Columbian girl. Nice the size tits implants but looked and felt awsome, nice snatchy, damm cute too. Nice body and nice ASSS dammm I was in love. Sorry I can not share the info with you guys, but I found this spot with just a little research on the net.

Yeah, a real man who won't share a good thing. Take your LE ass off this site before J****** kicks your ignorant ass off. OINK, OINK, OINK...

Ritchey Rich
06-27-07, 23:32
Typical LE trying to sucker us in for info.



Yeah, a real man who won't share a good thing. Take your LE ass off this site before J****** kicks your ignorant ass off. OINK, OINK, OINK...

Richard More
06-28-07, 01:02
Me LE LOL I don't think so. I would love to prove it to you guys that I am not but for what. If you want to know the spot hit me up and I will tell you after I research your lasts posts to make sure you your self are not LE.

Vlad De Sade
06-28-07, 01:58
Flatline,

Bro, don't rub it in our face!

Ha, ha ,ha, lol.

Seriously, PM me w/your favorites I gotta go north young man...

Marlowe,

Brother, I love it. YOU, make me smile, smile, smile!

I get so frustrated when I do log in and I see a new post on our thread and then...

Its a f**king LE post.

Or worse yet Just Another Stupid Monger popping in to tell me some s**t I already know. That he is full of s**t! A little searching "on the net." Mia's was the last real KAMP that actually had a website if I remember correctly. That was over 5 years ago. Oh well, those who know, know and those that dont, dont...

Peace, V da Sadist

P.S. RM if YOU did get laid, and I hope YOU did, at the 1 place left that I know of w/latinas... DO NOT POST THE NAME, LOCATION, OR ANY INTEL!!!
Thanks, and take the Flatline's advice head north...

ReallyaNiceGuy
06-28-07, 08:52
When will I learn to stay away from these places? What a joke.

Yea I got FS but it was too much work and too much money for what you get. Another old Chinese woman.

Oh yea, she didn't want to use the cover I had so she used a plastic sandwich bag.

RaNG

Ritchey Rich
06-28-07, 11:37
Been seeing the ads for that place all over CL and wondered what could get there. Thanks for the info and think will stay clear of it.


When will I learn to stay away from these places? What a joke.

Yea I got FS but it was too much work and too much money for what you get. Another old Chinese woman.

Oh yea, she didn't want to use the cover I had so she used a plastic sandwich bag.

RaNG

Bobby O
06-29-07, 00:14
I wonder if she put the sandwich bag in her lunchbox when you were done!

Thanks for the warning RNG.

ReallyaNiceGuy
07-26-07, 08:42
You're welcome.

If I didn't love the hunt so much it'd be easy to never got to one of these places again. They're all the same.

RaNG

King310
07-26-07, 14:44
Found a new LMP in Woodland Hills.

Its on Canoga near by 76 Gas Station.

.4 for door fee.

Girls are average, but you do get FS.

Vlad De Sade
07-28-07, 21:25
Mongers,

I had a nice afternoon escape w/another curvy Kgirl Fri afternoon.

I love Woodland Hills. So close to home!!!

I love mamasans who leave me perverted text messages on my cell phone from month to month...

I arrived 37 minutes late. WTF! It was too hot 106 in Chastsworth and I was busy working and playing all day long.

I did not despair cause Angela told Connie, age 24, to wait patiently and she did.

I fell into her loving, soft, naked arms for an hour of lust!

I listened to the sweet sounds of Stevie Nicks and company on her stereo as my cock began growing in anticipation of another K girl conquest.

I almost bursted my nut in her surprisingly tight K girl snatch after only 15 minutes.

I maintained. Literally banging her in 4 different positions just to keep it from ending...

I finally blasted her bare hands, minus condom, w/what had to be a teaspoon or more of love.

She said, "YOU big one and make too much messy..." I LOL for real she was so cute. Having known her for all of about 48 minutes. I was very satisfied w/my $160 donation.

She has been here 3 years barely speaks english. Yet, she understood all of my disgusting racist fantasy f**k nasty talk. Oh, I am a sick puppy.

My play time is extreme. As is the conventional boredom and relentless normalcy of my married life. When I escape, if even for only an hour, I take off!

Ha, ha, ha I had fun. Even met a fly white college coed named Megan in the parking structure as I was leaving. Nice!

Too bad I am no longer free...

Peace, V da Sadist

P.S. Do not PM for intel. Unless, I know YOU!

Webcams
07-29-07, 02:57
Hey Vlad,

I checked this ******* and found a few spots With Latina and Asian massage, will share the info when it is in front of me see if you hit it for the rest of you feel free to spend years on the site, post a few hundred times and then others might share the days of Sepulveda and oxnard white building #202 13000 Sepulveday # 818-555-1212 Are long gone.

As are the amps camps tramps lamps kamps.

The way it is is the way it has to be.

Loki
07-29-07, 14:54
Oxnard is a nice little oasis of AMPs. God bless Tanya at OSpa, who goes above and beyond the call of duty. She's old but I assure you that as far as attention to detail goes, she's high on my list.

There are other places, too. Just visit the boards. I mean, it's a 40 minute drive and you get FS for either 40/40 or 40/60. Don't be a big spender from LA and give any more NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE SERVICE WAS. All this does is raise the donation bar and perhaps lower the mileage for the rest of us.

It has been a while since I lived in the 805, but from what I remember, the places I frequented were:

1. Oriental Spa (On Saviers west of Channel Islands Blvd) - Tanya is the must-try in at this location. But everyone I was with was pleasant.

2. Oriental Accupressure (On Saviers and Bard) - I stopped going to this place for some reason. But one of the best-looking (solid 8) girls I ever f***ed in an AMP worked here. She was like a Korean Jenna Haze. On two occasions, I doggied her and ripped the condom off and nutted on her ass and back. She didn't like it the second time. I also had a 2-girl FS experience here, but they were not all that good looking (one was a 3 and the other was a 3.5)

3. MXM Chinese (On Channel Islands north of Ventura) - This place recently closed, but there were at least 2 girls that gave the most tantalizing soft massages. I haven't had one that compared to them since. And this was at least 3 years ago.

4. St. Mary's (Off of Oxnard Boulevard before the RR tracks when heading W from the 101) - Coco is worth a shot if she' still around. Leaving it to chance and letting the mamasan pick has never been upsetting for me either.

5. A1 - This is near the first two places but is off of Saviers. I wanna say Street J. Anyway, the draw of this place is latinas. Of the three times I tried this place, I just left a few teaspoons lighter. It is only a last resort in my opinion if you are craving latina twat. Latina providers generally suck. I don't mean to offend anyone, but the only time I had excellent Latina service was in that shady house in Pasadena off of Allen....and if anyone went there, you know exactly what I'm talking about: Rosie and Alex were f**king awesome. And if you knew about that place (which was called Honey's), you would know about Latinas Therapy off of Alhambra Rd near CSULA (Mya was a solid 8.5 stipper from the Hofbrau and Angela was a 1/2 Chinese 1/2 Mexican cutie. And if you knew about this place you know about their other location in Huntington Park, which of the three, is the last LMP standing.

Anyway, I monger a bit, but only post when I'm inspired. I mean, I went to GS in BP last night, but who hasn't?

I have 2 SGV Condo hookups that are not Mike/Jay/Ken/Sam from CL. One of them is a mamasan who has a very loyal Chinese lady named Katie who loves BBBJ and gives a lot of ball attention. She also showers with you and starts there with the BJ. She either enjoys sex with me very much or is a very convincing actress. And after you bust your nut, she gives you a hard massage (which sometimes hurts).

You can PM me for info, but don't ask for details if you are not someone that has more posts than me. I am not a "Senior" Member, but honestly, I am not a weekly monger. I have other hobbies. Mongering is distant third in my list of hobbies. But if you are a senior member who I have seen on here a bit feel free.

And for those with their own situations, I am in search for a latina provider (the younger the better) that is not some gangsta hoe who provides excellent service. I know that TJ is only 2.5 hours away, but like I said before, I don't monger on a weekly basis. I need some local meet to feed my d**k.

Ordinary A
08-09-07, 02:59
Loki,

Excellent Writeup.

Loki
08-13-07, 01:40
I was wondering if anyone can confirm the existence of any sort of Armenian incall operation which is actually organized, like the condos throught Alhambra, Monterey Park, and Arcadia.

I figure that Armenians connected with Russian organized crime must have some sort of prostitution ring going. Perhaps the girls are not Aremenian, but Ukrainian or perhaps Russian.

I heard a rumor that a certain bakery in Glendale has a 2nd floor where mongering happens. I am very curious and would be delighted if the place was friendly to non-Armenians.

Any info would help. It's nice to see all the Armenian/Persian/Russian hotties around Glendale, but it would even be more nicer to go up in some of them.

Eastern European tail seems to be a rare commodity here in California. Such was not the case in Toronoto, where a lot of MPs featured beautiful Russian help. And when I say beautiful, I mean model material.

AsianEater
08-13-07, 14:54
Tanya is no longer at Oriental spa... She opened her own place in Oxnard on Pleasant Valley Rd, name is Q spa... She still provides same great service but is always busy....

Oxnard is a nice little oasis of AMPs. God bless Tanya at OSpa, who goes above and beyond the call of duty. She's old but I assure you that as far as attention to detail goes, she's high on my list.

There are other places, too. Just visit the boards. I mean, it's a 40 minute drive and you get FS for either 40/40 or 40/60. Don't be a big spender from LA and give any more NO MATTER HOW GOOD THE SERVICE WAS. All this does is raise the donation bar and perhaps lower the mileage for the rest of us.

It has been a while since I lived in the 805, but from what I remember, the places I frequented were:

1. Oriental Spa (On Saviers west of Channel Islands Blvd) - Tanya is the must-try in at this location. But everyone I was with was pleasant.

2. Oriental Accupressure (On Saviers and Bard) - I stopped going to this place for some reason. But one of the best-looking (solid 8) girls I ever f***ed in an AMP worked here. She was like a Korean Jenna Haze. On two occasions, I doggied her and ripped the condom off and nutted on her ass and back. She didn't like it the second time. I also had a 2-girl FS experience here, but they were not all that good looking (one was a 3 and the other was a 3.5)

3. MXM Chinese (On Channel Islands north of Ventura) - This place recently closed, but there were at least 2 girls that gave the most tantalizing soft massages. I haven't had one that compared to them since. And this was at least 3 years ago.

4. St. Mary's (Off of Oxnard Boulevard before the RR tracks when heading W from the 101) - Coco is worth a shot if she' still around. Leaving it to chance and letting the mamasan pick has never been upsetting for me either.

5. A1 - This is near the first two places but is off of Saviers. I wanna say Street J. Anyway, the draw of this place is latinas. Of the three times I tried this place, I just left a few teaspoons lighter. It is only a last resort in my opinion if you are craving latina twat. Latina providers generally suck. I don't mean to offend anyone, but the only time I had excellent Latina service was in that shady house in Pasadena off of Allen....and if anyone went there, you know exactly what I'm talking about: Rosie and Alex were f**king awesome. And if you knew about that place (which was called Honey's), you would know about Latinas Therapy off of Alhambra Rd near CSULA (Mya was a solid 8.5 stipper from the Hofbrau and Angela was a 1/2 Chinese 1/2 Mexican cutie. And if you knew about this place you know about their other location in Huntington Park, which of the three, is the last LMP standing.

Anyway, I monger a bit, but only post when I'm inspired. I mean, I went to GS in BP last night, but who hasn't?

I have 2 SGV Condo hookups that are not Mike/Jay/Ken/Sam from CL. One of them is a mamasan who has a very loyal Chinese lady named Katie who loves BBBJ and gives a lot of ball attention. She also showers with you and starts there with the BJ. She either enjoys sex with me very much or is a very convincing actress. And after you bust your nut, she gives you a hard massage (which sometimes hurts).

You can PM me for info, but don't ask for details if you are not someone that has more posts than me. I am not a "Senior" Member, but honestly, I am not a weekly monger. I have other hobbies. Mongering is distant third in my list of hobbies. But if you are a senior member who I have seen on here a bit feel free.

And for those with their own situations, I am in search for a latina provider (the younger the better) that is not some gangsta hoe who provides excellent service. I know that TJ is only 2.5 hours away, but like I said before, I don't monger on a weekly basis. I need some local meet to feed my d**k.

Webcams
08-14-07, 15:29
I was wondering if anyone can confirm the existence of any sort of Armenian incall operation which is actually organized, like the condos throught Alhambra, Monterey Park, and Arcadia.

I figure that Armenians connected with Russian organized crime must have some sort of prostitution ring going. Perhaps the girls are not Aremenian, but Ukrainian or perhaps Russian.

I heard a rumor that a certain bakery in Glendale has a 2nd floor where mongering happens. I am very curious and would be delighted if the place was friendly to non-Armenians.

Any info would help. It's nice to see all the Armenian/Persian/Russian hotties around Glendale, but it would even be more nicer to go up in some of them.

Eastern European tail seems to be a rare commodity here in California. Such was not the case in Toronoto, where a lot of MPs featured beautiful Russian help. And when I say beautiful, I mean model material.You get the intel on that please pass that on, we all know including LE that every ethnic race in LA runs there own type of "ring" there use to be places west of topanga that had nice houses were there was drinking gambling and ****** straight out of the Sopranos, the eventual downfall of every place is unsatisfied or slighted customers who dime them out to the P.D., or nosy neighbors.

Le stands to reason claims mafia money and gangs, wouldn't this go by the wayside if it was legal?

I imagine a full service spa casino with model material girls where you can get a legit massage gamble party hang out in the sauna and bang a hottie.

Wait Vegas is already here .

I have always heard of Armenian "gangs" running Russian girls for hire, only found one r.m.p. off of devonshire that is now closed Many thanks to whoever turned me on to that, I think it was a friend not a poster but I have gotten the best advice from either friends or posters here.

If anything is found in the valley remember keep it to a select few who have given you intel in the past, or those you trust without reservation.

LE already is ahead of us getting complaints from neighbors and customers, we shouldn't make it any easier for them after all they get Paid to do what we pay for.

Keep hunting for those Quality secretive amps and other M.P.s I know Asians have quality joints, not open to Americans, some make exceptions if you are with someone who speaks the language and frequents the place I trust the secretive nature of things make it hard for us to find but it can't be that hard can it?

Hos Def
08-14-07, 21:00
You get the intel on that please pass that on, we all know including LE that every ethnic race in LA runs there own type of "ring" there use to be places west of topanga that had nice houses were there was drinking gambling and ****** straight out of the Sopranos, the eventual downfall of every place is unsatisfied or slighted customers who dime them out to the P.D., or nosy neighbors.

Le stands to reason claims mafia money and gangs, wouldn't this go by the wayside if it was legal?

I imagine a full service spa casino with model material girls where you can get a legit massage gamble party hang out in the sauna and bang a hottie.

Wait Vegas is already here .

I have always heard of Armenian "gangs" running Russian girls for hire, only found one r.m.p. off of devonshire that is now closed Many thanks to whoever turned me on to that, I think it was a friend not a poster but I have gotten the best advice from either friends or posters here.

If anything is found in the valley remember keep it to a select few who have given you intel in the past, or those you trust without reservation.

LE already is ahead of us getting complaints from neighbors and customers, we shouldn't make it any easier for them after all they get Paid to do what we pay for.

Keep hunting for those Quality secretive amps and other M.P.s I know Asians have quality joints, not open to Americans, some make exceptions if you are with someone who speaks the language and frequents the place I trust the secretive nature of things make it hard for us to find but it can't be that hard can it?Interesting report. I've got some connects in Glendale, am looking into it. Not sure if I'd want to go there w/out a local. Used to know a couple russian-armenians (ruthless lunatics)!!

Vlad De Sade
08-16-07, 02:35
Mongers,

This reminds me of the good old days in da SFV.

I remember 1 spot "John Kallie" hooked me up w/in Sherman Oaks. This was 2-3 years ago. A Hungarian incall apt!!! Yes, they were 10+ model types.

And, I really do miss the China Doll house off of Vanalden. Something naughty about going into a residential address and banging LBFM's in broad day light.

Okay, boys find that hot Armenian incall pad. I'm sure it exists only for Russian/Armenian mobsters. Maybe w/enough $$$ they would open up to outsiders. Again I doubt it. Seems only Koreans & Mexicans in LA know how to pimp their women for profit on the open market...

Peace, V da Sadist

Webcams
08-16-07, 16:20
It's a culture thing, they think by keeping out foreign races it allows them to continue unnoticed. They seem to be into body shops and insurance fraud things from what hit's the newspapers. I am sure they have girls for rent too though.

To bad for them Glendale has many Armenian cops, who unlike white cops seem to be harder to bribe.

Glendale is scary as far as LE goes white, black, old, young it doesn't matter to the Jesus they bust everyone for anything there crazy.

For the tough stance on everything they take, it is amazing they have any crime there.

If LAPD worked 1/10th as hard LA could be beautiful.

Hos Def
08-16-07, 20:49
Has anyone seen the "Brow Down" video on youtube? Originated from the kroq morning show. Go to youtube and search "brow down". Pretty hilarious for anyone who's ever had the daunting task of driving thru Glendale. No offense to any mongers who fit this description. It's all in fun.

Vlad De Sade
08-17-07, 02:24
Mongers,

Burbank & San Fernando PD are no joke either!

Both departments are filled w/motivated LE who, because they swim in a very small bowl, actually make an impact daily.

Slow down in all 3 of these 818 incorporated cities...

Peace, V da Sadist

Loki
08-18-07, 04:59
So aside from the expensive Eros or ******** girls, is there anyway of getting some Baltic lovin'? Anything east of the Danube would do: Hungarian, Slovakian, Czech, Armenian, Turkish, you name it.

FedEx
08-23-07, 02:05
Of course there is, Loki...

Book a ticket to Prague, the cheapest East European capital with model material girls... See my mid May 2006 trip report in ISG. $25 per 30 minutes with a 24 y.o. Russian who doesn't speak a word of English, but DFK's like a teenager in love... Or $45 per 30 minutes with a Czech cutie who DFK's too and bbbj's like the Russian girl. Some will offer Greek for an extra $25 - $50...

Anyway, the L.A. Xpress or the L.A. weekly always have ads for Russian girls in the 323 area code (West Hollywood has a large Russian community). I never checked those out, 'coz Asians are my cup of tea, but you can...

Hey, that was my No. 100 post!!!

Don't I deserve a plastic watch with the USG logo?... LOL



So aside from the expensive Eros or ******** girls, is there anyway of getting some Baltic lovin'? Anything east of the Danube would do: Hungarian, Slovakian, Czech, Armenian, Turkish, you name it.

Vlad De Sade
08-23-07, 04:17
Brother,

Your USG watch is in the mail!!! Ha, ha, ha.

Loki,

Please, start calling all of those Russian numbers in the LA weekly. Sadly, I have no time...

If it pans out PM us the results. I will gladly trade intel for worthy Eastern block tang!!!

Peace, V da Sadist

Webcams
08-23-07, 04:32
You aint kiddin about glendale I refuse to buy anything or even go to the town, I know the cops are plain crazy, LAPD could learn a thing or too, but damn they have no mercy black and white there it doesn't matter if your old young black white asian aremenian they will write ya a ticket slam you for dui littering it is harsh, I wonder if it keeps crime down though?

Hmmmm.

Chief69
08-23-07, 08:10
[QUOTE=Loki]Oxnard is a nice little oasis of AMPs. God bless Tanya at OSpa, who goes above and beyond the call of duty. She's old but I assure you that as far as attention to detail goes, she's high on my list. Unquote.


Pardon if someone already pointed this out, but Tanya is not there anymore. She's at a spa on Pleasant Valley Rd. One of only two there, if you're familiar with the area. I don't consider A-1 Pleasant Valley Road since it's on a cross street. This spa is the newest one in the area, currently having a grand opening special, cutting 15 from 50 entrance. I am just a happy customer of Tanya.

Vlad De Sade
08-25-07, 03:47
Mongers,

The ghosts of Topanga Therapy have managed to shut down the crappy pizza parlor that took hold after TT closed their hallowed doors in Aug 2004.

Now, if some Kguy mobsters would only drive by and reopen my old Shangrila...

I gotta keep believing a "real" Kamp will return to the west valley!

Peace, V da Sadist

StikkyOne
08-27-07, 17:40
Mongers,

The ghosts of Topanga Therapy have managed to shut down the crappy pizza parlor that took hold after TT closed their hallowed doors in Aug 2004.

Now, if some Kguy mobsters would only drive by and reopen my old Shangrila...

I gotta keep believing a "real" Kamp will return to the west valley!

Peace, V da SadistI admit it, it was me, haha.

I closed them down by continuously reporting them to the health dept. in an outside chance that my last bastion of glory would miraculously re-appear.

Hey, a miracle happened once before when Charlie's place re-opened in Granada Hills.

Vlad, I hate to admit this, but when you posted that fake report that Mia's had re-opened, I did a drive-by... s#%t

soulassasin
09-01-07, 18:56
Finally found hot Latinas to bang. I was tired of nothing but thirty something koreans. This LMP is located in the back of a strip mall with no sign outside and is not visible from the streets which is a plus. Its $40 for a half hour and $60 for an hour. They let you choose the girl you want, that way you can't complain about getting a fugly chick. Anyway my experience was with Sylvia a 28 year old fine ass mexican girl. She was light skinned with black hair and an amazing body. The only thing missing was a pair of water ballons in her chest, I guess she'll get them once she saves a little cash. Overall the experience was great. A hot girl with a friendly attitude and great service. I paid for a half hour but was there for an entire hour and nobody knocked on the door to hurry us up. The guy in charge is a young hispanic dude who seems pretty cool. At the end of it all I tipped her. 90 got a hug goodbye and was on my way. I found this LMP through another member on here. They might advertise in a spanish paper but I'm not sure so I won't put the address up since it does keep a pretty low profile. I will however give it to anyone who contributes on here and to mongers who can give up some info on their connections.

Vlad De Sade
09-02-07, 02:23
Mongers,

Do not post vital intel on this thread.

Use the PM feature to trade intel w/trusted members.

Soulguy, that is one of my standby LAMP's here in Canoga Park.

And it is not to be tossed around in public. Nor are any of the new ones I have found this summer.

E's herbs is a rare gem in that it has operated for over 2 years w/no hassels.

They do not need any free press here or anywhere. The local Latino population keeps the dinero flowing in and out everyday...

If ya want intel just PM and then trade discreetly.

LE is the enemy.

So do not help them destroy the small resurgence the valley is experiencing this late summer.

Thanks new guy. We all appreciate it.

Peace, V da Sadist

FedEx
09-12-07, 01:06
No wonder!

They could never produce the amount and the quality of the mayo sauce we have been producing there for years... LOL

Peace,
Fedex



Mongers,

The ghosts of Topanga Therapy have managed to shut down the crappy pizza parlor that took hold after TT closed their hallowed doors in Aug 2004.

Now, if some Kguy mobsters would only drive by and reopen my old Shangrila...

I gotta keep believing a "real" Kamp will return to the west valley!

Peace, V da Sadist

Boner Jams 03
09-13-07, 03:28
Finally found hot Latinas to bang. I was tired of nothing but thirty something koreans. This LMP is located in the back of a strip mall with no sign outside and is not visible from the streets which is a plus. Its $40 for a half hour and $60 for an hour. They let you choose the girl you want, that way you can't complain about getting a fugly chick. Anyway my experience was with Sylvia a 28 year old fine ass mexican girl. She was light skinned with black hair and an amazing body. The only thing missing was a pair of water ballons in her chest, I guess she'll get them once she saves a little cash. Overall the experience was great. A hot girl with a friendly attitude and great service. I paid for a half hour but was there for an entire hour and nobody knocked on the door to hurry us up. The guy in charge is a young hispanic dude who seems pretty cool. At the end of it all I tipped her. 90 got a hug goodbye and was on my way. I found this LMP through another member on here. They might advertise in a spanish paper but I'm not sure so I won't put the address up since it does keep a pretty low profile. I will however give it to anyone who contributes on here and to mongers who can give up some info on their connections.Dude, this place sounds like the shit. What are the cross streets? If you ever go to Oxnard, I can tell you where the LAMPS are and who to ask for if you don't already know.

King310
09-13-07, 13:07
Found a quiet/sweet spot in Van Nuys. Its an lamp.

Tried out the latina and it was an excellent choice. Want to keep her a secret but willing to trade information with others. PM only.

Larks Tongue
09-13-07, 14:44
Finally found hot Latinas to bang. I was tired of nothing but thirty something koreans. This LMP is located in the back of a strip mall with no sign outside and is not visible from the streets which is a plus. Its $40 for a half hour and $60 for an hour. They let you choose the girl you want, that way you can't complain about getting a fugly chick. Anyway my experience was with Sylvia a 28 year old fine ass mexican girl. She was light skinned with black hair and an amazing body. The only thing missing was a pair of water ballons in her chest, I guess she'll get them once she saves a little cash. Overall the experience was great. A hot girl with a friendly attitude and great service. I paid for a half hour but was there for an entire hour and nobody knocked on the door to hurry us up. The guy in charge is a young hispanic dude who seems pretty cool. At the end of it all I tipped her. 90 got a hug goodbye and was on my way. I found this LMP through another member on here. They might advertise in a spanish paper but I'm not sure so I won't put the address up since it does keep a pretty low profile. I will however give it to anyone who contributes on here and to mongers who can give up some info on their connections.

Glad to hear about your experience. Good to hear things can be found in the Valley.

Vlad De Sade
09-17-07, 03:24
Mongers,

What are YOU doing?

Does anybody RTFF?

Does anybody care that LE will destroy every good thing in the SFV.

Does anybody wanna dispute this claim?

Does anybody here remember the SFV in say the summer of 2002 or say 2004?

Does the fact that LE has systematically dismantled every "real Kamp" in every one of the valley's 35 cities for more than 4 years straight concern anyone other than me?

Why can't new posters just use the PM feature?

At this point, I would prefer this method. Even if I am sceptical about a newbie's intentions I can form a relationship and decide later if I wanna divulge, privately, any intel to this person.

Why is this so difficult to understand?

BJ03, Bro, we are not in da Nard. We are in da Valley.

Where LE has decimated our hobby!

We don't post vital intel, like cross streets, on an open thread.

Instead we PM to other mongers. Thanks.

ASC, Bro, nice I appreciate your discreet report.

Actually, a monger named Stickyone is interested in a Lamp.

Stickyone, PM this guy. And then PM me if its "real".

I got some vital intel for YOU.

And this would really help me to trust YOU as a monger.

LT, YOU know "things" can be found in da SFV!

We just don't post openly.

Because we have been under LE attack for nearly 4 years straight now.

Peace, V da Sadist

===============================================

Hi guys,

Just to put this in perspective:

1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.

2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.

3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.

4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada.

Thanks,

Jackson

Oc Amper
09-17-07, 12:38
I'll be visiting soon, hopefully.

Palm
7551 Topanga Cyn
Canoga Park

Vlad De Sade
09-17-07, 15:25
Oc AMP fuck,

Dude, thats wrong.

YOU don't live in the valley.

And YOU post openly one of the few spots left to monger.

FUCK YOU!

KEEP THIS SHIT OFF THE THREAD!

What are YOU a fucking cop or just stupid?

Or just wanna little attention?

We don't need any help mongering in the SFV!

Guys like YOU are what ruins this hobby for everyone.

Just shut the fuck up about any AMP action YOU find via PM or newspapers.

We need to be smarter than LE.

Or we will loose it all for another 36 months.

Would YOU all like that to happen again?

Fucking stupid little.

No peace, Vlad da Sadist

===============================================

Hi guys,

Just to put this in perspective:

1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.

2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.

3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.

4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada.

Thanks,

Jackson

Oc Amper
09-17-07, 16:36
Dude, give it a break! This isn't your board, although you'd love for everyone to run every place by you. Fact of the matter is, the cops know of these places. If it has the name Massage in the name, then it is very likely that they had to run it by LE just to get an OK to open the business. If they didn't, then the cops on patrol would have reported it.

This specific place is no secret. This place was mentioned on another site 9 different times, 7 girls. Keeping with the policy of the forum, I won't be mentioning its name. Most of us who don't refuse to admit that this forum isn't the only source know very well of the other site.

Folks, don't be intimidated by Vlad De Sade.



OC Amp fuck,

Dude, thats wrong.

YOU dont live in the valley.

And YOU post openly one of the few spots left to monger.

FUCK YOU!!!

KEEP THIS SHIT OFF THE THREAD!!!

What are YOU a fucking cop or just stupid?

Or just wanna little attention?

We dont need any help mongering in the SFV!

Guys like YOU are what ruins this hobby for everyone.

Just shut the fuck up about any amp action YOU find via PM or newspapers.

We need to be smarter than LE.

Or we will loose it all for another 36 months.

Would YOU all like that to happen again???

Fucking stupid little...

No peace, Vlad da Sadist

DropFrame
09-17-07, 20:17
Vlad De Sade Speaks the truth.
Every thing you say may be true. However, LE is more likely to be watching CNN or Fox News instead of Current TV (it just won an EMMY) or Versus.
All 4 of these are Cable TV Channels. Which are you most likely to watch? Same for LE and the internet. The more chatter there is about a place, the more likely they will be forced to do something about it. Especially if it is a story on CNN instead of Versus.

Furthermore, According to the rules of the forum:

No Personal Contact Information: Please do not post any personal email address, telephone numbers or street addresses in the Forum. Please use the Forum's Private Messaging system to exchange this information. Please review the Posting Guidelines below for more information.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/announcement-forumrules.php

Oc Amper
09-17-07, 20:56
Furthermore, According to the rules of the forum:

No Personal Contact Information: Please do not post any personal email address, telephone numbers or street addresses in the Forum. Please use the Forum's Private Messaging system to exchange this information. Please review the Posting Guidelines below for more information.

http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/announcement-forumrules.php

Yep, saw that. The rule is quite clear. No PERSONAL Contact Information.

Since we're now going over the rules, I'll repeat it here for reference:

No Flaming: Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member.

I'm not so sure about the chatter thing. Nearly all of the places in Inglewood had been talked about in various forums for over 10 years. Current speculation is that Inglewood took all of them down due to corrupt police, not because they were spoken about in forums like these.

Zlmmm
09-17-07, 22:18
Speaking of the threat of LE.

Does anyone know if Yoyo's / Nana's place in WH is still open? I called the private insiders number on Saturday and it went right to voicemail with a mailbox full message. Next I called the CL advertised number and found that it has been disconnected. So I searched CL and noticed they posted 4-6 times every single day up until Thursday, September 13 and then all posting ceased.

Does anyone have the 411? Please post or PM me.

Thanks.

We now return you to your regularly scheduled squabble.

Vlad De Sade
09-18-07, 04:23
Oca, Why would YOU do this?

What could YOU possibly gain?

Why can't YOU, and a few others, learn to use the PM feature?

If YOU had PM'the me and said, "hey Vlad is Palm cool I wanna come up to the SFV? " I would have said, "yeah bro its great. Here is the lowdown. Please, keep it off the thread. Thanks. "

YOU say why PM a local about a spot first?

The answer if YOU cared to ever RTFF is that we have been destroyed by LE here in the SFV!

And not because of the rationale YOU use. That states corrupt cops got Inglewood busted by their actions alone. Wrong!

In the valley the cops go to these places too. And perhaps they do get FS. However, the important thing is that immediately afterwards they bust the joint.

Tragically, its stupid people bringing attention to a "known spot" that causes LE to act. Obviously, its "known" they advertise in the LA weekly.

However, the new smart places are still opening in ghetto areas, are discreet and never draw attention to themselves. Period!

Also, places haven't used the words massage, therapy or health on their facades since atleast 2004 in the SFV. Its kept discreet and off the radar here. These places attempt to blend into their minimall locations. They do not need to be outed on a public forum! They do not need your help OCA in finding clients!

I am going to tell Emu tomorrow to be prepared for being busted any week now. I will tell her why too. Because some lilly ass white boy from the OC decided to blurt out the Name/Location, (he probably would have listed the # if he had it), on a public internet forum!

WTF?

Why must guys like YOU ruin it for those of us who understand discretion, common sense, and integrity?

I was guilty back in '04 of posting about some legendary Chatsworth Kamps. I was an idiot. I was bragging about my conquests w/reckless abandon. I never thought anything of it. This even after Mias was destroyed in '02. How stupid was I?

I had to personally witness the systematic destruction of every "real Kamp" w/in a 20 mile radius of my castle.

Being gangsta and connected I have been fine. Its just been more expensive & complicated to get tang now in the valley. However, its newbies, not me, who have been the ones to suffer. Why? Because they have no scene to even fuck up today.

And sadly its guys like YOU who are to blame for this sad state of affairs.

The more YOU post about anything the more it gets attention. This is bad for us mongers OCA.

Why might YOU inquire is this?

The answer is because this hobby we all love is ILLEGAL!

A fixed location AMP is vulnerable. So remember that while YOU are blabbing all the vital intel YOU have about its dirty deeds.

If its intel about a SW thats different. They are transient in nature. So posting where YOU found her, names, etc is less likely to get her busted.

And finallly, I attacked YOU after YOU posted about this spots name/location on an open thread thats under LE attack!

This is not the first time I have witnessed YOU starting s**t on threads. However, I have refrained from commenting. Always telling myself as long as YOU don't mess w/the SFV thread. So I come home from Vegas to see your post. If ever there was a time to comment its was now!

Good luck SFV newbies. I hooe OCA, and his ilk, can keep ya in tang?

I hope I don't intimidate anyone here. I just keep it honest and real for those mongers who get it!

Late, VDS

===============================================

Hi guys,

Just to put this in perspective:

1. There is no club, massage parlor, escort service, streetwalker location or other place described on this website that the local police don't already know about, with or without this website. Don't be so naive as to think that local LE doesn't already know what's going on in their town.

2. No Forum Members have ever been detained, questioned or investigated as a result of information that they or others posted on this Forum.

3. No information in this Forum has ever been used in any prosecution. It's simply not qualified evidence.

4. The police have never contacted me or requested any information from me about any forum member, and they never will because the forum's servers are located in Montreal, Canada.

Thanks,

Jackson

Vlad De Sade
09-18-07, 12:01
Jackson,

I have no doubt LAPD knows about this particular place...

Thats not the point.

Why inflame an already delicate situation.

YOU remember the valley.

YOU lived here once long ago.

LE is psycho about vice in the SFV nowadays.

The less attention given to a specific Amps location, name and xxxtras given means they can service us longer.

Period!

End of discussion...

Late, VDS

SteveLee333
09-18-07, 15:33
Vlad, I have been in this hobby for a long time as well, a little longer than 20 years in SFV. I've seen a lot of things go down. I had also gotten in trouble once from street action. Since then, I turned to safer spots. I'd hate to see those places go down like you do.

However, as Jackson put it, I'm sure LAPD or PD in any city for that matter knows much more than you or anyone else about these places. If you are talking about businesses that have massage/chiro/accupressure licenses, they need to go through police or health department commission. So the PD has the info in their hands before anyone even finds them. They do make routine trips to check them out after the opening.

And there are few reasons why the heat comes down to these places, as most of you probably know already; neighbor complaints, calls from disgruntled former employees and customers who don't get what they want... trust me, some of asshole do file complaints to PD..., and immigration issues (FED problem). Like the one that took place in SF, LA, and NY. It actually started in NY before coming to Cal.

One of the girls I knew who worked at this huge establishment in NY, that had been a landmark there for a long time, told me one day the FED's came in and literally took everyone including customers. And some media were there taking pictures of the bust. I'm sure FED's or NYPD tipped them in advance to publicize the great work they were doing to get rid of human trafficking sex slaves, which is hilarious. The girl I knew said all of her co-workers came in on their own. She even had a green card.

In my opinion, none of those causes is a direct result of reports on this or any other board. Increased traffic from other forum members who read about a particular place and decide to pay a visit is one that I think may contribute to that a little. But then, the whole purpose of the forum is to share the goods, I thought.

Since I speak the same language, I've talked to and known many AMP owners/managers/girls. Before they open a place they decide whether to go for long term or cash out quickly. So they know what they are getting into. If they decide to go for a short term hit-and-get out plan, they offer FS while long term strategy is to offer HJ or BJ only. The aggressive short term investers are not too concerned about postings on boards. They are more concerned about complaints from neighbors, employees and customers as I mentioned above since LE needs to formally investigate once they receive a complaint.

I don't want to blabber on too long about this. It's basically up to individuals. I can't or won't tell anyone to share info on any place since I haven't been able to do so myself. I haven't had anything worthwhile to post or share unfortunately. Most if not all the places I know have been covered on several boards already before I found them and the only places I can share requires speaking korean. However, I firmly believe that posting on this board doesn't bring down good places by themselves.

Just my opinion.

Hos Def
09-18-07, 19:32
Fellas,

I just had to tell you guys this. I play in a weekly poker game in woodland hills. Last night we got 2 new guys in our game. One is (vice/prostitution task force) the other is (vice/narcotics task force) both in SFV.Friends of my buddy who's a fire fighter. Aside from being Johnny Law, they were actually really cool. I took a break from the game and smoked a bob marley, while vice # 2 smoked a cig. Not that he can say anything playing in an illegal high stakes cash game. Anyways, i thought that was cool, indulging in some douja infront of the man.

Now, vice # 1 (prostitution task force) was a bit more reserved, didn't talk much and said almost nothing about work. I really wanted to pick his brain, but as you know this is a delicate matter. Not sure if I want to say anything at all. Might criminilize myself by asking or showing too much interest in his line of work. Last night I didn't say anything.

Any thoughts or suggestions for some Q & A, incase these guys show up next week? (in particular vice #1)

What if we had a 1st anual mongers fund raiser. Bribe the sfv vice squad, keep these places open and the LE in our pockets? Just like in the movies.

Also, in the process of writing a short film about the underground world of mongering. No names of mongers or forums like this will be published. (disclaimer)

Need help w/some titles. These are just some examples.

Monger and the Man, Rub & Tug, Pros and Cons ect...

Hos

Oc Amper
09-19-07, 18:21
Any thoughts or suggestions for some Q & A, incase these guys show up next week? (in particular vice #1)


Sounds like your poker pals are just regular guys doing a job. If vice is watching this board, then they've know who you are. That part could be unfortunate, just because they might not be so willing to talk shop with you.

I'd say, some of the things that are more interesting to know, is what causes them to focus in on one particular area of prostitution, ie whether it be a massage parlor, street walkers, escort agencies, independant girls advertising on any number of places, newpapers, craigslist, or escort malls.

Just my opinion, I firmly believe LAPD is like any other very large organization. Those actually doing the work, like your poker playing vice pal, really have nothing to do with the decisions on where they spend their investigative efforts. So, if leadership says to focus on massage parlors, there isn't anything anyone can do to prevent a bust on a massage parlor, except to temporarily close the business until LAPD leadership has decided to focus on some other area of prostitution. I believe this is why it is not unusual for all massage parlors in a given city/area get busted all in the same day.

Moondr
09-20-07, 21:24
I like the idea. How about "Monger survival guide"

Also, in the process of writing a short film about the underground world of mongering. No names of mongers or forums like this will be published. (disclaimer)

Need help w/some titles. These are just some examples.

Monger and the Man, Rub & Tug, Pros and Cons ect.

Hos[/QUOTE]

Webcams
09-21-07, 15:06
First moondr, You do realize that Vice handles prostitution, as well as illegal gambling correct?

Second the Valley is screwed, posting or not LE has nothing better to do.

It is always best to keep down low information exactly that we all remember topanga therapy and the rest.

Finally if you find an AMP, make sure you don't become part of the problem don't park in assigned spaces or in front of other business spots, that pisses people off and they Will call LE you can't do anything about the other two types of losers/mongers those who call le because the girl asked to much or whatever and the loser monger who falls in love with and needs to free her from her captors. These idiots who call le think they are helping, but there screwing someone out of there dream to be in this country. Cause guess what to pay of the debt they owe they do this, once there done they move on, or stay and continue to work and make money and drive rather nice cars with great tit implants and lot's of cash. Guess there real victims there, funny thing is after they pay there debt they continue to work and visit there former employers and have good relations with them. Stop acting like these are victims who unknowingly came here, they were working in there country now there working here and making a million times what they were, I would rather fuck for $100. 00 then 0. 11 cents and a grain of rice, and so would they. If YOU believe LE, you also believe in the mythical weapons in Iraq, and many other bamboozlings, stop falling in love with hookers and figure out when your getting worked.

Moondr
09-21-07, 20:19
I completelly agreed with you dude. What I meant under Monger survival gude that some tips which will help play game more safe. like you said Dont park in front of other business spots etc.

Take care


First moondr, You do realize that Vice handles prostitution, as well as illegal gambling correct?

Second the Valley is screwed, posting or not LE has nothing better to do.

It is always best to keep down low information exactly that we all remember topanga therapy and the rest.

Finally if you find an AMP, make sure you don't become part of the problem don't park in assigned spaces or in front of other business spots, that pisses people off and they Will call LE you can't do anything about the other two types of losers/mongers those who call le because the girl asked to much or whatever and the loser monger who falls in love with and needs to free her from her captors. These idiots who call le think they are helping, but there screwing someone out of there dream to be in this country. Cause guess what to pay of the debt they owe they do this, once there done they move on, or stay and continue to work and make money and drive rather nice cars with great tit implants and lot's of cash. Guess there real victims there, funny thing is after they pay there debt they continue to work and visit there former employers and have good relations with them. Stop acting like these are victims who unknowingly came here, they were working in there country now there working here and making a million times what they were, I would rather fuck for $100. 00 then 0. 11 cents and a grain of rice, and so would they. If YOU believe LE, you also believe in the mythical weapons in Iraq, and many other bamboozlings, stop falling in love with hookers and figure out when your getting worked.

The Flatline
09-22-07, 02:41
My two cents on the issue:

I figure LE knows about all of the AMPs and only goes after them if they become an appealing target.

How do they become an appealing target? Business I would imagine. If they get too busy, and you get complaints about parking spaces and such as referenced earlier, or you have people double-parking and acting like idiots to run in and get some trim, that creates a "problem". The more the information gets around, the faster the business will hit that critical point where it becomes lucrative enough for LE to bust the place.

I understand both sides of the argument. Mayhaps it's best to not share the "Mongering Guide for Dummies" level of information, because there are lurkers here that will help push things along to where LE will take notice. Maybe a bit of information isn't such a horrible thing, as it lets folks who truly are devoted think and read between the lines and figure it out for themselves. That way, people who have some self-awareness about them get the info, while it may fly over the heads of idiots who would foul things up.

Or maybe I'm completely off base here.

Larks Tongue
09-22-07, 12:19
Second the Valley is screwed, posting or not LE has nothing better to do.

LE has better things to do but it is a hell of a lot safer busting an AMP than it is going after gangs and drug dealers.

Superhawk
10-15-07, 12:42
Hi Squid to the MP scene; 1st visit the other day. The therapist told me typical gratuity was 60, 80, 100. Is that about right?

Superhawk
10-15-07, 19:23
Hi,

A CMT at an AMP told me this weekend that expected gratuity is 60, 80 or 100 depending on level of treatment. Is that about right?

Napretep123
10-19-07, 11:42
Yesterday I found an AMP in the valley that employees Latinas. The girl I had was amazing. She was an LA 10. The girl was approximately 5'4" with very large tits for her frame. She had a nice round ass. She had amazing lips and she knows how to use them. I walked in, and started to undress. She started asking me question and than just flashed her shaved pussy. Than she took my hand and had me rub her pussy. She asked me if I wanted everything, I said yes but that I was not planning on visiting this place so I only have .5 left on me. She singled a hj so I pointed at her mouth. She agreed and after a nice cbj, she asked if I can do her. I jumped at the oppertunity.

I felt like I hit the Jack Pot. PM me if anybody is interested.

Mike Franccis
10-19-07, 19:17
PostHey guys, I just moved temporarily to the San Fernando Valley and I am looking for asian micros. I've read the forum and it seems what we up in Seattle refer to as micros are referred to as KAMPs here.

Basically, I am looking for a full service massage that is run out of apartments. Since I am an older gentlemen I prefer asian women 25 and up.

I realize that people have been commenting that this information should be posted on the open forum so could someone PM me?

As well, I don't read any asian languages, but can someone point me in the direction of the local classifieds where this information would be posted. I find that for KAMPs, craigslist is pretty useless?

Sorry about the long post and I look forward to contributing some reviews.

Vlad De Sade
10-20-07, 02:56
Newbie,
Thanks!
Respond to my PM.
Keep the board clean...
Peace, VDS

Zlmmm
10-20-07, 13:55
Hi Mike,

Actually I prefer the term micro brothel which started up in Vancouver and spread to Seattle, but throughout California and much of the rest of the country they are referred to as an AAMP (Asian Apartment MP), or depending upon the ethnicity as KAMP or CAMP (these are often used generally here for both storefront and apartment establishments). Unfortunately most of these in the SFV have been closed down by LE the past few years. Occasionally new AAMPs are advertised on CL with an all inclusive price and typically the phone contact will have at least basic English skills.

Those AMPs on CL that advertise the base hourly price and say No Full Service are a WOT and WO$. Lots of action still in Oxnard so check that board out. The San Gabriel Valley also has some good options but it is way too far for me and I have no intel. In addition to CL check out the LA Weekly ads also. Some of the CL chicks will advertise that they have TER reviews specifically.

A good bet is to try some places, post some general reviews and trade intel via PM.

Good luck.

Zlmmm


Hey guys, I just moved temporarily to the San Fernando Valley and I am looking for asian micros. I've read the forum and it seems what we up in Seattle refer to as micros are referred to as KAMPs here.

Authorize
10-20-07, 23:22
Hello all. I am a newbie when it comes to this "hobby". I didn't know where to start, so I picked up a copy of L. A. Xpress to try my luck. Found a listing, and decided to give it a shot. I contacted the joint and headed there (which was a pretty long drive). I was surprised that she actually asked me what service I want on the phone before I even got there. Anyhow, I stopped by, and got in. Dropped $. 6 upon entering. Then, was led to a room at first, but she asked if I wanted another room. I said "sure", and was taken to another room that is so cold it can give the morgue a run for its money. She was giving a decent massage. To the point in which I thought it was a legit massage joint. Next thing I know, she goes "how about a HJ? " I go "fs", and she goes "how much you pay me? " (typical English from these ladies). I go "$. 8". Then, she asks if I had a raincoat. I took it out, and gave it to her. Started with a CBJ, then Mish, then Doggie, and finished with a HJ. She looks like she's in her mid to late 30's. Decent looking for that age, body was average, but attitude was VERY nice. Always had a smile on her face. Breakdown would be:

Face: 6
Body: 6
Attitude: 9

Total damage was $140 ($60 entrance, $80 for FS).

2 tips:

1) BYOP (Bring You Own Protection). {I believe everyone knows this already}

2) Parking is metered-street parking. Make sure you have change.
(Quarter for an hour, dime for 12 min, and nickel for 6 min).

Upon leaving, she said that when I return (it'll probably be a while), I need to make an appointment. If anyone's interested, PM me.

Sorry for the long post, but I thought it's nice to give an accurate report. I also tried to remain as anonymous as I possibly could.

Vlad De Sade
10-22-07, 01:59
Mongers,

This guy got lucky.

Pure & simple.

The odds are against a newbie even getting a hj at this point in 9 outta 10 spots operating in da SFV!

He should go to Vegas and gamble big while his mojo is hot...

Anyways, follow his lead explore, spend $$$, gas, and time looking for that elusive yellow tang!

And most importantly keep it vauge on the board. And PM the "real intel" off da radar. Make LE work to kill our hobby. Don't mine gold for them on an open thread!!!

Peace, V da Sadist

Napretep123
10-22-07, 03:14
Also, the chance of me going to a regular bar and at the end of the night getting a BJ (without paying) is higher than 1 out of 10.


Mongers,

This guy got lucky.

Pure & simple.

The odds are against a newbie even getting a HJ at this point in 9 outta 10 spots operating in da SFV!

He should go to Vegas and gamble big while his mojo is hot.

Anyways, follow his lead explore, spend $$$, gas, and time looking for that elusive yellow tang!

And most importantly keep it vauge on the board. And PM the "real intel" off da radar. Make LE work to kill our hobby. Don't mine gold for them on an open thread!

Peace, V da Sadist

Superhawk
10-22-07, 12:50
Mongers,

This guy got lucky.

Pure & simple. I'm not so sure about that. My first-ever vist to an AMP rendered similar results. Albeit the "cmt" was older, skinnie and somewhat of a biatch!

Oc Amper
10-23-07, 03:28
Wtf, I may have posted very little but it does not mean that I'm not experienced. Or that I do not have other ways of finding great intel. Anyway in order to keep this place open I'm only transfering this information to people that I feel comfortable that are not LE, so if you did not get a reply and your not LE, I'm sorry. Good luck.

Napretep123, don't be insulted by this fool. He would like everyone to run EVERYTHING by him, so that he knows all. So, he uses intimidation tactics against everyone. Calling people LE, calling them LUCKY, etc. Just review the posts and you will realize this.

Napretep123 has the right idea. Useful information is what keeps this forum open. Posts in this forum DO NOT close a parlor, nor is it likely that they increase the odds of a bust, nor do they bring ANY useful evidence to LE.

Think for yourselves.

The Flatline
10-23-07, 05:09
Napretep123, don't be insulted by this fool. He would like everyone to run EVERYTHING by him, so that he knows all. So, he uses intimidation tactics against everyone. Calling people LE, calling them LUCKY, etc. Just review the posts and you will realize this.

Napretep123 has the right idea. Useful information is what keeps this forum open. Posts in this forum DO NOT close a parlor, nor is it likely that they increase the odds of a bust, nor do they bring ANY useful evidence to LE.

Think for yourselves.

Actually, Vlad has shared some pretty good intel with me, and I hooked him up with my Oxnard/Ventura Black Book in return. I understand where he's coming from, and I think he meant that the guy that picked up the LA XPress was lucky, as opposed to the LAMP report.

Someone just starting out and picking up LAXP I would qualify as lucky for not getting scammed or screwed (and not in the happy way).

I have no problem PMing for intel, and am willing to offer info in return. The way I think of it, you advertise what you found generally in the forum, and if it piques someone's interest, you PM, get the 411, and go handle your business, and post a follow-up. No fuss, no muss.

Vlad De Sade
10-24-07, 02:00
Flatline,

My old friend...

Brother, dont bother using logic or common sense.

YOU actually have a mongering mindset.

YOU actually have a clue as to how the game is played.

YOU use your brain to further your knowledge w/out stepping on toes.

YOU enjoy the thrill of the hunt, taking notes, calling #s, and hitting & missin

YOU get it!!!

Others never will...

So ignore or stomp them as YOU wish!

At this point, I am tired of explaining. Mongering is the special forces of XXX. I get no love, $ or credit for leaving my sage wisdom here. So why bother sharing or trying to convert someone who is not on the same page. My time is short & precious. If I click w/ya I will have your back till the end. If not your dead! No gray areas for me.

I love everybody w/a brain.

If YOU are stupid I have no time for YOU!!!

Use your head here and in "reality" where life happens.

Why is PM'ing, using common sense, resisting LE, being vauge, and fighting rude/pretentious newbies and seniors alike so difficult???

This should be the easiest thing any of us do in the course of our days. Log on, read some clues, PM for details, take notes, go on an adventure, report back vaguely and share the intimate details via PM w/the guy who hooked it up!!!

Period!

Is this so complicated?

I am not that smart but I know that some things work a certain way.

To be successfull in life YOU must have discipline and a plan.

And I would say if YOU monger the same applies...

Good luck newbies, VDS

Superhawk
10-24-07, 11:55
Flatline, My old friend.

Brother, don't bother using logic or common sense.

YOU actually have a mongering mindset.

YOU actually have a clue as to how the game is played.

YOU use your brain to further your knowledge w/out stepping on toes.

YOU enjoy the thrill of the hunt, taking notes, calling #s, and hitting & missin

YOU get it!

Others never will.

So ignore or stomp them as YOU wish!

At this point, I am tired of explaining. Mongering is the special forces of XXX. I get no love, $ or credit for leaving my sage wisdom here. So why bother sharing or trying to convert someone who is not on the same page. My time is short & precious. If I click w/ya I will have your back till the end. If not your dead! No gray areas for me.

I love everybody w/a brain.

If YOU are stupid I have no time for YOU!

Use your head here and in "reality" where life happens.

Why is PM'ing, using common sense, resisting LE, being vauge, and fighting rude/pretentious newbies and seniors alike so difficult?

This should be the easiest thing any of us do in the course of our days. Log on, read some clues, PM for details, take notes, go on an adventure, report back vaguely and share the intimate details via PM w/the guy who hooked it up! Period!

Is this so complicated?

I am not that smart but I know that some things work a certain way.

To be successfull in life YOU must have discipline and a plan.

And I would say if YOU monger the same applies.

Good luck newbies, VDSBwahahahaha classic! Do you really take yourself this seriously? Special forces? Successful in life w/discipline and a plan? OMG, If nothing else this forum is great comedy relief!

Napretep123
01-08-08, 14:00
A couple days ago I visisted a new AMP in the SFV. The girl I got was a younger (20s) looking Korean (I think). Her looks were 9 and her service was an 8. She got strainght to business, no bad massage first. The cost was .4 at the door and .8 for fs. On the way out, I thought I saw a beutiful Latina in her early 20s.

Virgil1216
01-09-08, 17:55
Saw 3, 2 bsw and 1 lsw on sf road near roxford last night around 10:30pm. I did not partake but both the bsw's looked typical of the sw you see in the valley. One of them quoted $. I cruise that area quite a bit. This is the first sighting there in some time.

Virgil, Out.

JankyFreak
01-24-08, 20:49
does anyone know anything about VIP Therapy on Van Nuys blvd? Legit or happy place.

JF

Yowzaa
01-25-08, 10:05
Tried to check out the place on Darby, not sure if it's new or not. It's a couple of blocks off of Reseda/Hart.

It was about noon. Door was locked, rang the bell, had a sign w/a phone # to call if nobody answers bell. I didn't bother, and split.

Has anyone been here?

Craig53
01-31-08, 12:04
Tried to check out the place on Darby, not sure if it's new or not. It's a couple of blocks off of Reseda/Hart.

It was about noon. Door was locked, rang the bell, had a sign w/a phone # to call if nobody answers bell. I didn't bother, and split.

Has anyone been here?It's ok. I've been there twice. Thay actually give good massages and hand jobs. Never had a full service there.

Trojan Swinger
02-04-08, 03:06
Nice report...Now that I work in the Valley...could pay them a visit.
Could you point me to the right way?
Thanks
Trojan


Yesterday I found an AMP in the valley that employees Latinas. The girl I had was amazing. She was an LA 10. The girl was approximately 5'4" with very large tits for her frame. She had a nice round ass. She had amazing lips and she knows how to use them. I walked in, and started to undress. She started asking me question and than just flashed her shaved pussy. Than she took my hand and had me rub her pussy. She asked me if I wanted everything, I said yes but that I was not planning on visiting this place so I only have .5 left on me. She singled a hj so I pointed at her mouth. She agreed and after a nice cbj, she asked if I can do her. I jumped at the oppertunity.

I felt like I hit the Jack Pot. PM me if anybody is interested.

Webcams
02-07-08, 06:15
A couple days ago I visisted a new AMP in the SFV. The girl I got was a younger (20s) looking Korean (I think). Her looks were 9 and her service was an 8. She got strainght to business, no bad massage first. The cost was .4 at the door and .8 for fs. On the way out, I thought I saw a beutiful Latina in her early 20s.New AMP? With Latinas? In the Valley? Oh where is this mythical place you speak of?

I have not heard of Any NEW amps that have latinas. Actually there mostly all gone from the valley so I would be very intrested in hearing this and which girl it was that was so generous.

Thanks

Craig53
02-07-08, 11:48
New AMP? With Latinas? In the Valley? Oh where is this mythical place you speak of?

I have not heard of Any NEW amps that have latinas. Actually there mostly all gone from the valley so I would be very intrested in hearing this and which girl it was that was so generous.

ThanksI would like to know myself! Someone drop me a line please.

Hos Def
02-08-08, 14:50
I went to this place in the valley w/latinas. It was ok, kinda wierd if you don't know what to expect as I didn't. First off I found this place by random luck. I noticed some guy in a new benz walking into a shady lookiing door w/no sign in the middle of the day. I thought, " Jackpot". I go in and this little lady says. 4 for the half, I knew right away this was it, the place I argued with senior membors over for not sharing intel. This place is rundown and kinda reminds me of tj.

So I pay the. 4 and go into a room, strip down and get onto a single bed, not a massage table but a single mattress. I strip down and lay face down as I do at any AMP I go to. Btw, just wondering does anyone cover their ass with the towel that's usually on the table/bed? I know I never do, just trying to reassure miss therapist I'm cool, but as I was saying.

I'm naked face down, this decent looking kinda thick latina walks in wearing a tight hoochie red dress w/half of her ass hanging out and a nice rack. She says turn over, which was a little embarrasing at first cause it's cold and the little guy's not ready so I'm short and to the left like my putts. This is where it's a catch 22 to lie about if you've been there or not. I know as a rule of thumb, you're always supposed to say, "no it's not my first time". But then you look like an idiot if you don't how the procedure works in a particular place. So now I'm kinda trippin cause there's usually a weak massage and some light teasing before the flip. She then reaches for these oils which smelled like knock off cologne and dips a cotton ball in the oil and puts the swab in front of my nose and says smell. Now I'm thinking WTF? She does this a couple times and I don't know what to make of this. Funny how this site helps, I thought back to someone's post a while back about the same thing hapenning and he just starting touching her and got no resistance. So within 30 seconds I got both fingers inside her and she likes it. She then strips down and goes right for a cbj. Great suction, in fact so good I never got to any pounding. I think I gave her. 6 and I was out. I went back once more, got the same girl but noticed she was much uglier than I had realized. Must have been real stoned that day. The second time I think she recognized me and began serious negotiating and was upset cause I didn't have enough for her standards. Still gave me a cbj and I was on my way. I might go back, I saw a good looking girl in their breakroom on my way out. Webcams pm me if you don't already know where this place is. But after reading this post you probably do. Peace out mongers.

looks:5
service:7
place:3

Courtrat
02-08-08, 18:41
I went to this place in the valley w/latinas. It was ok, kinda wierd if you don't know what to expect as I didn't. First off I found this place by random luck. I noticed some guy in a new benz walking into a shady lookiing door w/no sign in the middle of the day. I thought, " Jackpot". I go in and this little lady says. 4 for the half, I knew right away this was it, the place I argued with senior membors over for not sharing intel. This place is rundown and kinda reminds me of tj.

So I pay the. 4 and go into a room, strip down and get onto a single bed, not a massage table but a single mattress. I strip down and lay face down as I do at any AMP I go to. Btw, just wondering does anyone cover their ass with the towel that's usually on the table/bed? I know I never do, just trying to reassure miss therapist I'm cool, but as I was saying.

I'm naked face down, this decent looking kinda thick latina walks in wearing a tight hoochie red dress w/half of her ass hanging out and a nice rack. She says turn over, which was a little embarrasing at first cause it's cold and the little guy's not ready so I'm short and to the left like my putts. This is where it's a catch 22 to lie about if you've been there or not. I know as a rule of thumb, you're always supposed to say, "no it's not my first time". But then you look like an idiot if you don't how the procedure works in a particular place. So now I'm kinda trippin cause there's usually a weak massage and some light teasing before the flip. She then reaches for these oils which smelled like knock off cologne and dips a cotton ball in the oil and puts the swab in front of my nose and says smell. Now I'm thinking WTF? She does this a couple times and I don't know what to make of this. Funny how this site helps, I thought back to someone's post a while back about the same thing hapenning and he just starting touching her and got no resistance. So within 30 seconds I got both fingers inside her and she likes it. She then strips down and goes right for a cbj. Great suction, in fact so good I never got to any pounding. I think I gave her. 6 and I was out. I went back once more, got the same girl but noticed she was much uglier than I had realized. Must have been real stoned that day. The second time I think she recognized me and began serious negotiating and was upset cause I didn't have enough for her standards. Still gave me a cbj and I was on my way. I might go back, I saw a good looking girl in their breakroom on my way out. Webcams pm me if you don't already know where this place is. But after reading this post you probably do. Peace out mongers.

looks:5
service:7
place:3

Back a few years ago I had the same experience at a Valley location on Burbank Blvd. What you went through my friend is aromatherapy. That other location years ago also had a Latina provider, although she was thick she was nice thick.
PM me if you can. I would love to check this place out.

Moondr
02-08-08, 21:26
Is this place on De Soto? I think I paid a visit there a couple months ago. No luck at all. She didn't let me touch her and walk out of the room. I was naked to show them that I am not LE but still nothing. I think they provide services to spanish speaking dudes only.

Peace


I went to this place in the valley w/latinas. It was ok, kinda wierd if you don't know what to expect as I didn't. First off I found this place by random luck. I noticed some guy in a new benz walking into a shady lookiing door w/no sign in the middle of the day. I thought, " Jackpot". I go in and this little lady says. 4 for the half, I knew right away this was it, the place I argued with senior membors over for not sharing intel. This place is rundown and kinda reminds me of tj.

So I pay the. 4 and go into a room, strip down and get onto a single bed, not a massage table but a single mattress. I strip down and lay face down as I do at any AMP I go to. Btw, just wondering does anyone cover their ass with the towel that's usually on the table/bed? I know I never do, just trying to reassure miss therapist I'm cool, but as I was saying.

I'm naked face down, this decent looking kinda thick latina walks in wearing a tight hoochie red dress w/half of her ass hanging out and a nice rack. She says turn over, which was a little embarrasing at first cause it's cold and the little guy's not ready so I'm short and to the left like my putts. This is where it's a catch 22 to lie about if you've been there or not. I know as a rule of thumb, you're always supposed to say, "no it's not my first time". But then you look like an idiot if you don't how the procedure works in a particular place. So now I'm kinda trippin cause there's usually a weak massage and some light teasing before the flip. She then reaches for these oils which smelled like knock off cologne and dips a cotton ball in the oil and puts the swab in front of my nose and says smell. Now I'm thinking WTF? She does this a couple times and I don't know what to make of this. Funny how this site helps, I thought back to someone's post a while back about the same thing hapenning and he just starting touching her and got no resistance. So within 30 seconds I got both fingers inside her and she likes it. She then strips down and goes right for a cbj. Great suction, in fact so good I never got to any pounding. I think I gave her. 6 and I was out. I went back once more, got the same girl but noticed she was much uglier than I had realized. Must have been real stoned that day. The second time I think she recognized me and began serious negotiating and was upset cause I didn't have enough for her standards. Still gave me a cbj and I was on my way. I might go back, I saw a good looking girl in their breakroom on my way out. Webcams pm me if you don't already know where this place is. But after reading this post you probably do. Peace out mongers.

looks:5
service:7
place:3

The Flatline
02-11-08, 02:24
I went to this place in the valley w/latinas. It was ok, kinda wierd if you don't know what to expect as I didn't. First off I found this place by random luck. I noticed some guy in a new benz walking into a shady lookiing door w/no sign in the middle of the day. I thought, " Jackpot". I go in and this little lady says. 4 for the half, I knew right away this was it, the place I argued with senior membors over for not sharing intel. This place is rundown and kinda reminds me of tj.

So I pay the. 4 and go into a room, strip down and get onto a single bed, not a massage table but a single mattress. I strip down and lay face down as I do at any AMP I go to. Btw, just wondering does anyone cover their ass with the towel that's usually on the table/bed? I know I never do, just trying to reassure miss therapist I'm cool, but as I was saying.

I'm naked face down, this decent looking kinda thick latina walks in wearing a tight hoochie red dress w/half of her ass hanging out and a nice rack. She says turn over, which was a little embarrasing at first cause it's cold and the little guy's not ready so I'm short and to the left like my putts. This is where it's a catch 22 to lie about if you've been there or not. I know as a rule of thumb, you're always supposed to say, "no it's not my first time". But then you look like an idiot if you don't how the procedure works in a particular place. So now I'm kinda trippin cause there's usually a weak massage and some light teasing before the flip. She then reaches for these oils which smelled like knock off cologne and dips a cotton ball in the oil and puts the swab in front of my nose and says smell. Now I'm thinking WTF? She does this a couple times and I don't know what to make of this. Funny how this site helps, I thought back to someone's post a while back about the same thing hapenning and he just starting touching her and got no resistance. So within 30 seconds I got both fingers inside her and she likes it. She then strips down and goes right for a cbj. Great suction, in fact so good I never got to any pounding. I think I gave her. 6 and I was out. I went back once more, got the same girl but noticed she was much uglier than I had realized. Must have been real stoned that day. The second time I think she recognized me and began serious negotiating and was upset cause I didn't have enough for her standards. Still gave me a cbj and I was on my way. I might go back, I saw a good looking girl in their breakroom on my way out. Webcams pm me if you don't already know where this place is. But after reading this post you probably do. Peace out mongers.

looks:5
service:7
place:3

I'm pretty sure this is the place I'm familiar with. If it is, I can vouch for the story as being pretty accurate. The place smelled of ganja, incense, and was about 95 degrees and stuffy. If it was the place that had the chain on the door so it was harder than hell to go in and out of I know it.

My experience was positive. Cute girl, probably 18-20, spoke maybe 5 words of english. I speak no spanish, so it was interesting getting through it.

Jam Jam
02-13-08, 00:50
Quote:" Originally Posted by Hos Def

I went to this place in the valley w/latinas. It was ok, kinda wierd if you don't know what to expect as I didn't. First off I found this place by random luck. I noticed some guy in a new benz walking into a shady lookiing door w/no sign in the middle of the day. I thought, " Jackpot". I go in and this little lady says. 4 for the half, I knew right away this was it, the place I argued with senior membors over for not sharing intel. This place is rundown and kinda reminds me of tj............"

Don't post much and usually stick to Ventura County but I was just at that place last week. They usually let you pick from whoever is working.

That place is just plain GROSS! The girl gave a lousy massage and then was playing games about extras even though I'd seen her once before. She did make up for it by demonstrating her kegal exercises but after I blew my load, there was some spillage on the sheet when I removed the cover. We get dressed and the girl starts straightening up the towel and very dirty sheet. She had no intention of changing the sheet. NASTY!

Doubt I will be back.

Azz Warrior
02-19-08, 01:30
I haven't posted here in years, kept in touch with a couple of members here who I thought were loyal but turned out not to be the case (Vlad de Sade).

Who cares if you post the name of an MP here, the cops already know about it. Mias Therapy gone, Topanga Therapy gone, Magnolia gone, Rainbow gone, Best Spa gone, etc.

Marlowe
02-19-08, 03:12
I haven't posted here in years, kept in touch with a couple of members here who I thought were loyal but turned out not to be the case (Vlad de Sade).

Who cares if you post the name of an MP here, the cops already know about it. Mias Therapy gone, Topanga Therapy gone, Magnolia gone, Rainbow gone, Best Spa gone, etc.

Excuse me!! A punk (most likely an LE punk) with six posts to his name criticizing VDS? Go to hell muthaf*cka.

Azz Warrior
02-19-08, 23:54
Phuck VDS, I have better things to do with my life than post here, that's why you see 6 posts only. Try to get p***y without paying for it, loser.

Hos Def
02-27-08, 13:45
Funny thing, Best Spa was the first kamp I'd ever been to and it was good back then. So, a couple months back I'm passing by and I notice their open sign is on, so I thought let me drop in and say hi.

Not sure if I payed .4 or .5 for the 1/2 but anyways now i'm naked face down ready for what's coming. A minute later there's a knock on the door and in walks this pretty cute chinese girl in her mid 20's but she's wearing a white lab coat. Seriously, a labcoat. Now I'm not sure what to think at this point, it was kinda funny and sexy in a wierd hot woman in uniform kinda of a way. So she proceeds with the half ass massage w/some light teasing. Then the flip. This was when it got wierd. She puts the towel over my johnson but she's giving me compliments, saying "you're handsome and I like your muscles". I'm not sure if this chick wants me to ask her out or if she's just prepping to pull my goalie.

So I take this as an invite to start rubbing her. On the bottom she was wearing a long flower dress, not sleezy at all, very profesional. So i reach under her dress and start rubbing her cooch thru her panties. She gave no resistance. As I'm doing this, she starts rubbing me thru the towel and I'm thinking ok this is a start. I pulled the paties aside and started rubbing her pink and she started getting into it. Then she pulls the towel off and starts polishing the shaft while sucking my nipples. No joke!

Within a minute or two i shot my load, she cleans me up and gives me this little lecture on how I'm not supposed to touch the girls and she's not supposed to do that. It didn't make sense, partly because I couldn't understand her broken english and she just rubbed me out. So i tipped her and bounced. Stange experience. I haven't gone back since but I'm curious to know if anyone has dropped in to check it out lately?

Peace out fellas

The Flatline
02-27-08, 15:07
Phuck VDS, I have better things to do with my life than post here, that's why you see 6 posts only. Try to get p***y without paying for it, loser.

The average man who gets laid pays more for the privilege after gas, movies, candy, gifts, dinner, and an immeasurable amount of time, than one who goes, drops a hundred or so, and handles his business in an hour. Back when I had a steady girlfriend, yes I'd get laid a lot, but the cost of entry to set up the weekend was at least 1-200 dollars, sometimes more if she wanted to be "entertained". Plus, when I saw her, that's all I did that day, was spend time with her. Anything I wanted to do got put on hold.

My time is too valuable to spend on flakes that may or may not hop in the sack with me. If someone wants to give it up easy I'm all for it. Otherwise, screw it. Sex is not the raison d'être in my life.

Oh, and what are you? 16?

The Flatline
02-27-08, 15:10
Funny thing, Best Spa was the first kamp I'd ever been to and it was good back then. So, a couple months back I'm passing by and I notice their open sign is on, so I thought let me drop in and say hi.

Not sure if I payed .4 or .5 for the 1/2 but anyways now i'm naked face down ready for what's coming. A minute later there's a knock on the door and in walks this pretty cute chinese girl in her mid 20's but she's wearing a white lab coat. Seriously, a labcoat. Now I'm not sure what to think at this point, it was kinda funny and sexy in a wierd hot woman in uniform kinda of a way. So she proceeds with the half ass massage w/some light teasing. Then the flip. This was when it got wierd. She puts the towel over my johnson but she's giving me compliments, saying "you're handsome and I like your muscles". I'm not sure if this chick wants me to ask her out or if she's just prepping to pull my goalie.

So I take this as an invite to start rubbing her. On the bottom she was wearing a long flower dress, not sleezy at all, very profesional. So i reach under her dress and start rubbing her cooch thru her panties. She gave no resistance. As I'm doing this, she starts rubbing me thru the towel and I'm thinking ok this is a start. I pulled the paties aside and started rubbing her pink and she started getting into it. Then she pulls the towel off and starts polishing the shaft while sucking my nipples. No joke!

Within a minute or two i shot my load, she cleans me up and gives me this little lecture on how I'm not supposed to touch the girls and she's not supposed to do that. It didn't make sense, partly because I couldn't understand her broken english and she just rubbed me out. So i tipped her and bounced. Stange experience. I haven't gone back since but I'm curious to know if anyone has dropped in to check it out lately?

Peace out fellas

She might have liked you enough to "bend" the rules, or more likely was giving you the "you're a naughty boy, don't tell anyone" speech I've heard from countless strippers and working girls.

DevilDog101
03-06-08, 19:20
Well I have been reading this for a while now, so I figured I'd better start earning my keep with a report. Went to a place called "Riverside" On Riverside listed in the LA Xpress. It is on the second floor in a building behind a doctors office. Looks like it used to be an apartament in a former life. The Place had no idication of being an AMP other than the OPEN sign in the window. (I took it as a good thing). Well went in & the chick had a nice body in loose clothes. She was real attentive & gave me a hug Kept telling me what a great massage she was going to give me. Then she asked me to tip in advance which was a first for me but I told her if it was a good time she would get a good tip. Did the usual moaning & started to grab her ass. She did not move away so I figured I was good to go. Asked me to flip then told me my time was up and If I wanted to pay for more massage. Made the usual gestures but nothing. Place is a Dud. So anyway save your money on this one. Man I miss the days before Bratton.

Mad Monk
03-07-08, 04:31
Well I have been reading this for a while now, so I figured I'd better start earning my keep with a report. Went to a place called "Riverside" On Riverside listed in the LA Xpress. It is on the second floor in a building behind a doctors office. Looks like it used to be an apartament in a former life. The Place had no idication of being an AMP other than the OPEN sign in the window. (I took it as a good thing). Well went in & the chick had a nice body in loose clothes. She was real attentive & gave me a hug Kept telling me what a great massage she was going to give me. Then she asked me to tip in advance which was a first for me but I told her if it was a good time she would get a good tip. Did the usual moaning & started to grab her ass. She did not move away so I figured I was good to go. Asked me to flip then told me my time was up and If I wanted to pay for more massage. Made the usual gestures but nothing. Place is a Dud. So anyway save your money on this one. Man I miss the days before Bratton.I know this place and have been a few times. Managed in '07 to get some fs happiness from the masseuse, but it took 1. 0 for the tip, a lot of convincing, and byo protection (luckily, I was prepared). Since then, have seen two different girls. One offered clothed r&t only and I tipped modestly at the end (. 4, she was cute and attentive). Another also went for r&t, but wanted the tip up front. I went to. 8 and up went the bra, down came the panties, and I got to manually explore. Worth it for the rack. But am unlikely to return again.- too much work to get some relief.

Hos Def
03-07-08, 16:48
I've been to that place and it sux. The girl i got was ok, mid 20's but all business. On the flip i started touching her ass and she says for .2 more she'll drop her pants and allow some light touching. I said ok. She drops her pants and lets me pet the kitty for a minute as she yanks away.

That was it. I've never been back since. However, when i go to these places i like to share with my friends so they can have a similar experience. So my boy decides to drop in. He said the same thing happened to him but the lady was at least 40 and he swears she was the same lady that served him chinese food the night before. Nasty!!

BTW, If anyone has any info on a provider from Toluca Lake/Studio City calls herself crystal blue. Drop me a line, would be much appreciated.

Have a great weekend fellas!

Vlad De Sade
03-12-08, 03:10
Marlowe & Flatline,

Thanks brothers dont even bother w/that kid!

Flatline says he is 16teen. LOL I say he is maybe 22 going on fourteen.

Regardless, he has alot of maturing to do if he thinks that having a girlfriend or worse yet a wife is cheaper than mongering...

What a FOOL!!!

It is little boys like this that get destroyed by every bi**h they meet!

I have had non stop LE issues for 6 months.

I will say this jail is not cool.

Okay, I am free and back to having fun.

SO, now I find my good name sullied by AW on this thread.

WTF, I tolerated that looser for years PMing me, asking me ?s and telling me s**t like he was still in High School.

And everytime I had compassion and tried to give him knowledge & advice. (breaking my own rules giving intel to a newbie w/less than 10 posts it serves me right.)

Thats it no more MR NICE GUY!!!

If I know YOU we are cool.

Otherwise, every monger for himself...

F**king little boys & girls make me sick.

P.S. Yeah, some amps are closing... so be smart AND SHUT THE F**K UP ABOUT THE GOOD ONES!!!

V da Sadist

OC Man
03-12-08, 17:48
Thank you NatPreTep123!
**** Cindy was out - Kiki & Lizzy took GREAT care of me.

OC man


Napretep123, don't be insulted by this fool. He would like everyone to run EVERYTHING by him, so that he knows all. So, he uses intimidation tactics against everyone. Calling people LE, calling them LUCKY, etc. Just review the posts and you will realize this.

Napretep123 has the right idea. Useful information is what keeps this forum open. Posts in this forum DO NOT close a parlor, nor is it likely that they increase the odds of a bust, nor do they bring ANY useful evidence to LE.

Think for yourselves.

Illan Jr
03-12-08, 18:57
Hey guys,

I'm new to this forums and the mp scene and was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to help me. I'm normally a CL user or a SPB wanderer but as of late I've been having no luck on both (CL is too pricey):

And SPB seems to be slow for action). I have lived in sfv for almost all my life and have never tried an AMP or MP, could someone please be kind enough to refer me to a safe latina or asian MP and and give me tips on what I should expect from an mp?

Thanks,

Illan Jr

The Flatline
03-13-08, 16:17
Hey guys,

I'm new to this forums and the mp scene and was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to help me. I'm normally a CL user or a SPB wanderer but as of late I've been having no luck on both (CL is too pricey):

And SPB seems to be slow for action). I have lived in sfv for almost all my life and have never tried an AMP or MP, could someone please be kind enough to refer me to a safe latina or asian MP and and give me tips on what I should expect from an mp?

Thanks,

Illan Jr

Check out the Oxnard board and make the 45 minute drive until you get your feet under you. You practically need a divining rod to find a provider in the valley these days.

Craig53
03-13-08, 16:50
Check out the Oxnard board and make the 45 minute drive until you get your feet under you. You practically need a divining rod to find a provider in the valley these days.Yes Oxnard and Ventura is known for great AMPs. Look at the Oxnard & Ventura threads and you'll see what's going on over here....All I ask is don't tip too much because it kills it for everyone else. Usual 40/60 is good enough for full service. Another hint to save some money, pick up a free newspaper called the Reporter which is in most gas stations and donut shops. You'll see a $10 discount for A-1 Massage.

iguy35
03-14-08, 22:44
Pick up a free copy of El Classificado, look for Masajes towards the end. You should find at least 10 ads with a 818 area code, in the latest edition. Some of them have street addresses as well. Most of them are LAMPs, so it will help you only if you are into Latinas.


Hey guys,

I'm new to this forums and the mp scene and was wondering if anyone would be kind enough to help me. I'm normally a CL user or a SPB wanderer but as of late I've been having no luck on both (CL is too pricey):

And SPB seems to be slow for action). I have lived in sfv for almost all my life and have never tried an AMP or MP, could someone please be kind enough to refer me to a safe latina or asian MP and and give me tips on what I should expect from an mp?

Thanks,

Illan Jr

Vlad De Sade
03-16-08, 05:12
Newbie,

Do not jump into the SFV amp scene cold!

I cannot stop YOU from exploring new territory.

I can say this: The world of Amping in the SFV has never been the same since summer 2002. Every 2 years it gets worse. This year is the best its been in a looooooooooong looooooooong timmmme!!!

That being said: We still get laid in the valley.

My advice is pop your cherry in Ventura County.

It is clean, safe and cheap.

It will build your confidence.

It is a guaranteed good time.

YOU will learn the ropes in a relaxed and professional environment.

Remember, this hobby is illegal!

In some spots in the SFV the girls will not relax, get completely naked or even pretend to enjoy it. They are terrified of LE. And it shows in the subpar/rushed service that is pawned off as FS for $200 in some locations.

WTF?

So new guy enjoy the mongering life and all our hobby has to offer.

YOU get out what YOU put in...

Be safe & always stay smarter than the man.

Late, V da Sadist

Luv Pussy
03-25-08, 02:07
Been trying to get fs from Thai since last year. Finally got HJ at one place. 2 tip

Couldn't get more. No closed doors. Don't want to say too much. PM for number if you want legit w/ HJ.

Luv Pussy
03-27-08, 17:32
I while back I went to this AMP on victory. Can't remember how far east. Might have been burbank could have still been north hollywood. Advertised lots of young girls. Anyway. There was a number which I no longer have. When I arrived mamasan answered the door. Pd. 6 for an hour. She took me to a room where I got ready for my massage. I was surprised to find that SHE was the one who was to do the job. I told her "I want a young girl" to which she replied "I am a young girl" WTF! I was pissed. But I had already paid the house fee so I went ahead. I don't think there were any other girls in the place. It was around 11am. The women was easily in her 50's. Not pretty. Had that old lady fat.

Anyway she started the massage which was half-assed at best. But then she started playing with my butt. Teasing the crack of my ass. This went on for about 10 minutes then she ask if I wanted HJ. For. 40 BJ for. 6. I was so worked up that I went for the. 6 BJ

She left the room and came back a few minutes later. I was horrified with what happened next. Wrapped my willy with plastic WRAPPING PAPER to give me the covered BJ

It was TERRIBLE. I was sooo pissed that I had already given up the. 6. So I asked her to finish with HJ which she attempted totally dry! Can't believe I had to ask for some lube.

What I DO remember about the location is that it was on the north side of the street and unmarked next to some other businesses. Might have been a print shop. Not sure. You definitely had to know it was there to find it. Front entrance with a looong corridor. Anyway if you come acrss a spot that sounds like this. Keep on walking. Big time rip.

Boner Jams 03
03-28-08, 04:36
I while back I went to this AMP on victory. Can't remember how far east. Might have been burbank could have still been north hollywood. Advertised lots of young girls. Anyway. There was a number which I no longer have. When I arrived mamasan answered the door. Pd. 6 for an hour. She took me to a room where I got ready for my massage. I was surprised to find that SHE was the one who was to do the job. I told her "I want a young girl" to which she replied "I am a young girl" WTF! I was pissed. But I had already paid the house fee so I went ahead. I don't think there were any other girls in the place. It was around 11am. The women was easily in her 50's. Not pretty. Had that old lady fat.

Anyway she started the massage which was half-assed at best. But then she started playing with my butt. Teasing the crack of my ass. This went on for about 10 minutes then she ask if I wanted HJ. For. 40 BJ for. 6. I was so worked up that I went for the. 6 BJ

She left the room and came back a few minutes later. I was horrified with what happened next. Wrapped my willy with plastic WRAPPING PAPER to give me the covered BJ

It was TERRIBLE. I was sooo pissed that I had already given up the. 6. So I asked her to finish with HJ which she attempted totally dry! Can't believe I had to ask for some lube.

What I DO remember about the location is that it was on the north side of the street and unmarked next to some other businesses. Might have been a print shop. Not sure. You definitely had to know it was there to find it. Front entrance with a looong corridor. Anyway if you come acrss a spot that sounds like this. Keep on walking. Big time rip.Damn, that was a terrible thing that happened to you, yet funny. Thanks for the tip, I'm sure no one on this board is going to go there (if it still exists).

If you want a HJ by a smokin' hot chick, go to the strip clubs in Van Nuys. The Rhino in Van Nuys is almost always a guaranteed hand job at the least (at least the ones that I've taken there which is 3 diff. Girls). It's $120 for 3 nudes in the VIP (which is only $20 more than what you paid at the AMP) and the girls are a lot hotter and younger than a 50 year old grandma, and there's also mutual touching. You don't even have to pay them extra for the HJ. I've reported on the 3 clubs that I've been to in the valley in the "Strip Club" forum for SFV, so you can read that and decide for yourself if you want to try it out.

Better luck next time

BJams 03

Moondr
04-01-08, 21:45
Found a good new MP in SFV. They have latina and asian girls. Had a nice session with Tina. She is tall, nice looking soft and sweet asian doll. She has nice boobs unfortunately not natural. Service was CBJ includes some b liking then cowgirl riding and finish mish. Damage was standart for such places .5 hhr mamasan fee plus .10 tip. Saw latina in hallway she was short and dark skinned. Pm for address if interested. Senior members only please

Peace

Larks Tongue
04-02-08, 12:59
Damn, that was a terrible thing that happened to you, yet funny. Thanks for the tip, I'm sure no one on this board is going to go there (if it still exists).

If you want a HJ by a smokin' hot chick, go to the strip clubs in Van Nuys. The Rhino in Van Nuys is almost always a guaranteed hand job at the least (at least the ones that I've taken there which is 3 diff. Girls). It's $120 for 3 nudes in the VIP (which is only $20 more than what you paid at the AMP) and the girls are a lot hotter and younger than a 50 year old grandma, and there's also mutual touching. You don't even have to pay them extra for the HJ. I've reported on the 3 clubs that I've been to in the valley in the "Strip Club" forum for SFV, so you can read that and decide for yourself if you want to try it out.

Better luck next time

BJams 03


I wonder how long till undercover LEO start to go after the strip clubs for this? It is only a matter of time. The morality police want everything that offends them out of our cities. I thought that in my lifetime that SB would be the ghost town that it is. When I lived in the SFV it was never a problem finding tail on SB or even on Sherman Way but those days are long gone. Enjoy them while you can.

The Flatline
04-02-08, 14:30
I wonder how long till undercover LEO start to go after the strip clubs for this? It is only a matter of time. The morality police want everything that offends them out of our cities. I thought that in my lifetime that SB would be the ghost town that it is. When I lived in the SFV it was never a problem finding tail on SB or even on Sherman Way but those days are long gone. Enjoy them while you can.

Oh I'm sure sooner or later something will happen. Either cameras will be put in (XPosed) or someone somewhere will get busted (KH8) and at least for a while the good times will not be so good. It's a safe thing to go after, and it makes the cops look like they're being tough on crime.

The problem is that by making it outlawed, they can't regulate it, which opens the activity up to even more crime through trafficking, robs, and whatnot. If you regulated (and taxed, more income) the industry, you could cull down on all the nasty stuff that goes on when the cops aren't around, and generate some more money too. Too bad we live in such a puritanical country though. I mean, we won't even tell kids what condoms are for, and how they're used, because that might encourage them to get it on.

Jpalom 1981
04-02-08, 23:03
Now that I found all these places from the SFV I also found out that they're long time gone. It's like when I discover the band Deep Purple was pretty good and then I find out they were already gone. Jejeje

Guys all these stories are great, thanks for sharing your experiences.

Webcams
04-05-08, 02:52
The entire board has taken a shit, Real conversations take place behind closed doors with seniors, Locations no longer have signs out front no aromatherapy, no massage, many are in run down apartments or Industrial complexes.

By far the best intel comes from Vlad and a few other guys.

I toftt often, but I have yet to find a place vlad doesn't know about.

I keep hoping to surprise him by sending him a PM on My latest find and he already has it.

Sure here is one for you go to ________ st. Look for the orange building and next door to it in the house on the corner you can find hot 18-21 year olds.

Next week the exact address would be revealed by some newbie only to be shut down in a month coincidence, I think not.

Keep the places off the radar they do not need the heat.

there was a time when there were to many amps now is not that time.

If they don't know you they won't provide service simple as that, no matter what get naked stick a wiffle ball bat in your ass so what it ain't happening.

I am way too tired of coming here to here people slam other members for being cautious sometimes with s/w it doesn't matter but with amps things have changed greatly.

I for one ain't saying shit to anyone but a handful of people.

Vlad De Sade
04-07-08, 01:24
Mongers,

Listen clearly: PM vital intel to fellow trusted members!

This is war.

War against the LAPD vice unit and all the council members & chiefs who believe that my banging a hot 20 yr old K girl is some how akin to terrorism.

LOL!!!

The war on VICE, DRUGS & now TERROR are all a joke IMHO...

These are all good ideas on paper but they never pan out in real life!!!

Late, VDS

The Flatline
04-07-08, 01:32
The entire board has taken a shit, Real conversations take place behind closed doors with seniors, Locations no longer have signs out front no aromatherapy, no massage, many are in run down apartments or Industrial complexes.

By far the best intel comes from Vlad and a few other guys.

I toftt often, but I have yet to find a place vlad doesn't know about.

I keep hoping to surprise him by sending him a PM on My latest find and he already has it.

Sure here is one for you go to ________ st. Look for the orange building and next door to it in the house on the corner you can find hot 18-21 year olds.

Next week the exact address would be revealed by some newbie only to be shut down in a month coincidence, I think not.

Keep the places off the radar they do not need the heat.

there was a time when there were to many amps now is not that time.

If they don't know you they won't provide service simple as that, no matter what get naked stick a wiffle ball bat in your ass so what it ain't happening.

I am way too tired of coming here to here people slam other members for being cautious sometimes with s/w it doesn't matter but with amps things have changed greatly.

I for one ain't saying shit to anyone but a handful of people.

I'm sorry to hear the frustration man. I know I haven't had exactly the biggest report poster, I have far too many hobbies to make this a regular thing, but a couple years ago you took a bit of a chance on me and trusted me, and I really appreciate it. Same with Vlad. He gets some shit for his aggressive attitude, but really his intel is golden, and if you have something to even try to share back, he's a good man.

To the folks complaining, it's not impossible to get the rare, juicy intel. You may have to drive a bit to hit the "sure places" (like in the 'Nard) and build up your rep, and you'll probably have to contribute a bit here and there even in normal discussions, and you have to learn to either trade, or only ask for freebies occasionally when you're particularly interested. Wandering around the world in general with your hand out saying "gimmie" won't get you far. Coming in and reading the proper method of conduct, figuring out how to be subtle about what you're doing, and balancing thinking with your dick versus thinking with your brain will get you a long, long way here.

Heinlein said it best in "The Moon is a Harsh Mistress": There ain't no such thing as a free lunch.

AMPaddict
04-07-08, 17:31
vlad nailed it.

It took me literally a few month to find the replacements for the inglwood's lost paradise. Some I found on my own, some by sharing with senior members. It took time and $$. Will I be risking having my fav. place closed because some newb advertized it for uncle Leo?

Nope


Mongers,

Listen clearly: PM vital intel to fellow trusted members!

This is war.

War against the LAPD vice unit and all the council members & chiefs who believe that my banging a hot 20 yr old K girl is some how akin to terrorism.

LOL!!!

The war on VICE, DRUGS & now TERROR are all a joke IMHO...

These are all good ideas on paper but they never pan out in real life!!!

Late, VDS

Nootral
04-16-08, 02:13
Well I used to frequent this one place in Tarzana in a medical brick building, basically total ripoff for HJ lady requested an extra 20 for a shitty HJ. That is all LOL hope to post more as for hte year of 2007 I kept getting ripped off my AMPs in the valley!

Oc Amper
04-16-08, 04:38
I will agree, the war against vice, drugs and terror are good ideas that never really in the end show any true progress.

As far as the PM vital intel BS, look folks, this info is on other sites, if you wish to make this site useless, then follow and PM Vlad with all of your finds. If you want to make this site useful, then you don't buy into this whole BS.

The current spots seem to be
Pinks which still hasn't been busted despite Vlad's prediction months ago.
and Yeye on 8464 Reseda Blvd




vlad nailed it.



Mongers,

Listen clearly: PM vital intel to fellow trusted members!

This is war.

War against the LAPD vice unit and all the council members & chiefs who believe that my banging a hot 20 yr old K girl is some how akin to terrorism.

LOL!!!

The war on VICE, DRUGS & now TERROR are all a joke IMHO...

These are all good ideas on paper but they never pan out in real life!!!

Late, VDS

OC Man
04-16-08, 05:51
Thanks for the info


Killer Diller

OC Man


A couple days ago I visisted a new AMP in the SFV. The girl I got was a younger (20s) looking Korean (I think). Her looks were 9 and her service was an 8. She got strainght to business, no bad massage first. The cost was .4 at the door and .8 for fs. On the way out, I thought I saw a beutiful Latina in her early 20s.

Vlad De Sade
04-21-08, 02:46
MONGERS,

OCA is a pig.

And if he is not LE he is one of the stupidest mongers I have observed in over 4 years of posting on this forum!

What guy in cyber space, or the streets, refuses to listen to sage wisdom gleened by real world experience.

Who can say they know it all?

I certainly can't.

I learn every day that I am alive.

What would prompt a guy to be so confrontational w/a complete stranger?

I did not start this flame war out of the blue.

It was OCA posting openly about choice spots in the sfv late last year that pissed me off.

Since then he has started s**t w/me constantly...

I admit that I selfishly attempt to preserve my hobby from those who wish to destroy it.

Clearly, LE activity & stupid monger behavior are the only 2 things that threaten my favorite hobby.

I will say this one more time.

In the hopes that some newbie w/a brain takes heed.

Mongers, PM all vital intel to trusted members only.

I always respond to PM's sent to me from seniors and newbies alike.

And anybody that knows me will vouch for my integrity and my quality intel.

Please, do not use this public thread to post relevant intel about a fixed location amp.

The operators of these places do not need help getting business.

In fact, most are horrified when they realize that they are being posted about openly in this manner.

Why does this guy, who doesnt even live here in the sfv, refuse to acknowledge the hell we real mongers have encountered at the hands of LE since 2002?

Go to Santa Monica: destroyed.

Go to Inglewood: destroyed.

Go to Baldwin Park: destroyed.

Go to Hollywood: destroyed.

Go to my beloved SFV: destroyed...

Now, after more than 2 years of waiting patiently we finally have the first resurgence of lamps & kamps here and this guy wants to put it all out in the open.

No f**king way!

I do not care if other forums have threads that post about the SFV in this way.

If someone else jumps off of a cliff should I be stupid and jump too?

Use your logic boys.

This hobby is illegal.

Getting arrested, especially if U r married, could destroy U forever.

Why must we mine gold and do the hard work for the man.

We all need to be smarter than the man on a daily basis.

All LE has ever done for me, and many others, is to stick me in a cage, steal my $$$ and destroy my crops!

F**k da Police.

And F**k U OCA.

U r like my herpes just when I think U are gone U come back and bother me!

Do U smoke da KINE?

I know U dont.

If U did U would have a brain.

F**king pig.

And if U r not a pig U r a lame ass playa hater.

I have known other fake b**ches like U.

I see reality for what it is.

U either can't get laid even w/$$$.

Or U cant handle another man being smarter than U.

Punk ass little boys like U make me sick...

Late, VDS

Hos Def
04-21-08, 16:51
C'mon guys, let's sanction this shit and get it on!! We'll donate a % od the profits to city vibe :)

Bigjohn75
04-21-08, 19:40
I'm wit you Vlad. OCA is a snitch and a *****. I started coming on this site in hopes of finding tips on SW action. What can I say, I'm cheap and broke and horny. But it seems like LE has things on lock as anyone who's been mongering in LA over the last 4 years can tell you. And anyone with 1/2 a brain that's a true veteran would be able to figure out that it's probably not a good idea to put out "top secret" info to the public. Unless that person, of course, is and idiot or made of chorizo. Oink, oink buster.

The Flatline
04-21-08, 20:10
MONGERS,

OCA is a pig.

[Trimmed for brevity]

Late, VDS

In anticipation of the hellfire Vlad is about to get, I've gotten some of the best, hottest, and indeed cheapest tail I've ever gotten in this hobby, courtesy of Vlad's intel.

Truth of the matter is that there are two types of AMP neighborhoods. There are the ones that operate as an open secret, like Oxnard, and then there are high heat areas like SFV. I'll say that the talent I've had in SFV is fantastic, compared to places like the 'nard.

It does seem like OCA wants to sink amps to spite Vlad, but really, all it takes is one idiot who doesn't know how to behave to ruin it for everyone else. The more open the intel, the higher the odds that this will happen.

I understand this board is nothing without the sharing of intel, but I also realize that's how the AMPs get shut down.

Everyone needs to chill out. Like him or hate him, Vlad's got info most people only wish they had. His request, to keep the info on the down low, and not broadcast it, is not so horrible a request.

Luv Pussy
04-28-08, 15:02
Anybody know anything about the Riverbottom in Burbank? It's closed now. But keep hearing some interesting stuff about where they moved to. Anybody know anything? Like where I can find that action again? I really want to hang out with a Thai provider from that spot. NOt sure if and HOW I can make it happen. If you know the place than you probably know what I'm talking about.

Please PM me with more info if you have it.

Oc Amper
05-10-08, 14:32
Rather than respond to a 57 line tirade, I'll actually post info that is valuable to the community here. Seems like this place is a popular location:

Green Health Spa
18542 Sherman Way

MasterPelican
05-11-08, 16:22
Anybody know anything about the Riverbottom in Burbank? It's closed now. But keep hearing some interesting stuff about where they moved to. Anybody know anything? Like where I can find that action again? I really want to hang out with a Thai provider from that spot. NOt sure if and HOW I can make it happen. If you know the place than you probably know what I'm talking about.

Please PM me with more info if you have it.Q's is hist?

That's a bummer. That place used to jam right outta the gate every day.

Nootral
05-11-08, 21:05
Whats up guys. I've been a lurker and wanted to build a rapport with you guys. Let's start. I've only started the year of 2007 early February. I went to places that I don't think advertise on CL anymore such as winnetka area, 22318 woodland hills, and the spots on tampa and topham. I haven't gotten any tail from the women here. I'm just a noob when it comes to this. Do I ask for a shower option or something? Anyways I hope to start posting more places soon but I live in the SFV which = ass for finding a good AMP. So hopefully I can build a trust with some guys here.

Mike61
05-12-08, 15:14
Hit Green Health Spa yesterday. Seen Angie, got right down to business, there was no pussy footing around with a massage first, she came right in and asked what I wanted to try I said everything, she said it would be $ I said let's go twice and I walked out lighter and $$.4 poorer.

Roomba
05-22-08, 03:04
I've been reading here for a bit now and wanted to get some posts in. Not expecting anything from anyone given my noobiness, but hey, have to start somewhere. I started mongering recently after having some great professional massages for a couple years and getting tired of wondering if I should feel embarrassed for getting a woodie.

Anywho, I did my own research and had my first AMP experiences from CL intel. Was an AMP in the SFV, industrial area, girl was mebe 38 or so, about a 5. 5. Anywho, I could tell things were different right away (no cover sheet, locked door, tinted windows, etc). I was very nervous to say the least. Though she wasn't hot, I was excited what might happen. Ended very satisfied and what I was looking for (. 4 door hlfr. 4 tip for HJ (too much I'm sure now)). Tried a 2 girl same place but again looks were lacking and I'm a visual guy so need a bit more than just a HJ second time around.

Found many more in sfv and have had some "ok" experiences, two FS even, but still looking for a 9+ FS someday. I can say for newbies, treating the girls friendly goes a long way to getting what you want (and looking groomed and clean urself). Anywho, I sent a couple PMs already with some intel to hopefully prove I'm no LE, just a guy looking for a shortcut around many waste of times.

Peace

Roomba
05-26-08, 12:40
Well, went to Green. Bad experience for me. Based on Mike's intel I thought we could get down to business. I asked to choose a girl, there were 2, both of them a bit chubby (one asian and one latina maybe). Both 6's for me. I tried to open up with business but doing so scared the girl, thought I was LE or something. After 10 minutes, the "management" approved me, but by that time mood was lost. Oh, and it was. 5 door and I was asked for $. 2. Crazy. I went home poorer with nothing to say.

Mike61
05-26-08, 14:53
Well, went to Green. Bad experience for me. Based on Mike's intel I thought we could get down to business. I asked to choose a girl, there were 2, both of them a bit chubby (one asian and one latina maybe). Both 6's for me. I tried to open up with business but doing so scared the girl, thought I was LE or something. After 10 minutes, the "management" approved me, but by that time mood was lost. Oh, and it was. 5 door and I was asked for $. 2. Crazy. I went home poorer with nothing to say.

Wow, that sucks. I had a pretty awesome time.

Buck Nasty
05-26-08, 20:42
All these hot chicks on CL want the money up front and that kills it for me. I'm used to going to an MP, getting teased with a massage and then closing the deal. I drove to Culver City to 'hook up' with this hot CL provider, it took me 2 hours to get there (traffic), she was hot, she asked for $100 up front, I figure is OK, I go to the restroom to take a piss and I see a fuckin' condom in the toilet, this chick had apparently fucked someone else before I got there and she did not even bother to flush the toilet. That killed my hard on right there and then guess what? She kept my money, $100. On top of that this chick had his cousin downstairs providing security for her so I did not want to force her to give me my money back. I had a similar experience a month ago but this time I was smart enough to not give the money to the chick up front, I just walked out on her.

The action at an MP is different, most of the time you get the service first and pay later. Fuckin' CL, hot babes but most of them (the black ones) want the money up front.

Buck

The Flatline
05-28-08, 11:24
All these hot chicks on CL want the money up front and that kills it for me. I'm used to going to an MP, getting teased with a massage and then closing the deal. I drove to Culver City to 'hook up' with this hot CL provider, it took me 2 hours to get there (traffic), she was hot, she asked for $100 up front, I figure is OK, I go to the restroom to take a piss and I see a fuckin' condom in the toilet, this chick had apparently fucked someone else before I got there and she did not even bother to flush the toilet. That killed my hard on right there and then guess what? She kept my money, $100. On top of that this chick had his cousin downstairs providing security for her so I did not want to force her to give me my money back. I had a similar experience a month ago but this time I was smart enough to not give the money to the chick up front, I just walked out on her.

The action at an MP is different, most of the time you get the service first and pay later. Fuckin' CL, hot babes but most of them (the black ones) want the money up front.

Buck

That's pretty much the MO. Remember, you're dishing 50 bucks or whatever for what's usually a really, really lame massage. They get a few bucks even if you don't go for the action, and you get some chick dragging fingers over you.

It's not as bad as a strip club, where you're paying by the nanosecond.

Roomba
05-31-08, 13:33
Saw the place near Reseda Blvd/Parthenia get busted on 5/28 around 7pm. When I drove by I saw customers/providers were all in the back parking lot, some handcuffed. It's not what I thought it would be though, totally quiet and discrete, no marked cars or officers or flashing sirens, all undercover. Got some info down though to keep an eye out for but not releasing it on boards. I saw a white guy in cuffs discretely put in an LE vehicle and a few LE cars pull out with providers.

Can't believe this crap is still a crime. I know it's been said before, but hell, legalize and tax it. It's been around forever and ain't going away because of the "moral right" in this country who secretly do it too (ie NY governor). The feds/state should at least regulate it and make some cash. Doing so would put the scum out of business who really do abuse and treat the girls inhumanely.

Anywho, wanted to let you guys know:

Vlad De Sade
06-01-08, 03:14
R,

Thanks man.

We need to know about this stuff as sad as it is.

It affects all of us that still monger in da SFV.

We are still at war w/LE everyday.

Learn from it!

OCA, (and any others) please stop posting openly on this thread.

PM all vital intel to trusted members only.

Keep it off the radar.

Otherwise, this summer could be as awful as 2005.

When we had no where to monger at all...

Peace, da Irie Sadist

Hititnquitit
06-02-08, 02:12
Hey guys!

I'm new here and recently discovered this site and was surprised to find fellow mongers! Tonite I cruised around SFV to see if I could find anything open around 10pm; hell, I was trying to find something new! I failed and resorted to going to the last place I went to thats around Van Nuys, but that was closed and honestly, not all that. Last time I was there, the lady in the front didn't let me pick and choose the girl. The girl's breath stank and wasn't too good with the HJ. So, I was hoping that one of you guys can help me out on where to go?

Dgoesinyours
06-02-08, 10:59
Has anyone ever been caught in one of these places when LE came around?

Just wondering what happened, what the outcome was. If they were taken to lockup, etc.


Saw the place near Reseda Blvd/Parthenia get busted on 5/28 around 7pm. When I drove by I saw customers/providers were all in the back parking lot, some handcuffed. It's not what I thought it would be though, totally quiet and discrete, no marked cars or officers or flashing sirens, all undercover. Got some info down though to keep an eye out for but not releasing it on boards. I saw a white guy in cuffs discretely put in an LE vehicle and a few LE cars pull out with providers.

Can't believe this crap is still a crime. I know it's been said before, but hell, legalize and tax it. It's been around forever and ain't going away because of the "moral right" in this country who secretly do it too (ie NY governor). The feds/state should at least regulate it and make some cash. Doing so would put the scum out of business who really do abuse and treat the girls inhumanely.

Anywho, wanted to let you guys know:

Buck Nasty
06-03-08, 00:01
The fuckin' pigs pulled me over once as I was leaving my favorite MP. Apparently they had the place under surveilance. I don't want to disclose too many details but let's just say I got lucky. These pieces of shit could have taken me to jail if they had wanted to, not sure why they let me go. They could have made up some BS just to take me to jail. What a waste of tax payer's money, people get shot and killed in the valley just about every weekend and these mother fuckers (cops) have nothing better to do than have an MP under surveilance and arrest consenting adults, only in America (sorry Don King).

Oh and to answer your second question, if you get caught fuckin' inside the place, you're going to jail, not sure what the charges will be.


Has anyone ever been caught in one of these places when LE came around?

Just wondering what happened, what the outcome was. If they were taken to lockup, etc.

Oc Amper
06-03-08, 02:17
Has anyone ever been caught in one of these places when LE came around?

Just wondering what happened, what the outcome was. If they were taken to lockup, etc.

From reading news reports of busts, it seems that nearly all of the time the customers are not dealt with. For example, this monger in Inglewood:
http://usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?p=526840&highlight=bust#post526840

Then again, there is the flip-side to that at this link where LA County Sheriff ran a sting after their bust:
http://www.whittierdailynews.com/ci_8144678

Oc Amper
06-03-08, 02:47
We are still at war w/LE everyday.


It is really society at large that are passing their religious morals upon all of society and that is who we are actually at war with.

LE could care less about prostitution, what they care about are the laws that they are expected to enforce.

Obviously, we here as a community of sorts don't share that view, that a consensual act between two adults when money or things of value are traded for the act is illegal.

It is that time again. Exercise your rights, find out the opinions of your favorite politicians, especially on the topic of prostitution and vote for those that are friendly to our hobby.

Vlad De Sade
06-03-08, 03:09
Mongers,

During a rather sensational adventure of mine back at Mias, during the summer of 2002, I had a near miss w/LE...

I believe I have posted about this a long time ago, on another thread, regarding something of a similar nature.


Long story short my K girl Michelle was tied up (literally) and I was buck naked w/a g-26 in my Dr bag of tricks. I had it for my personal safety. That intersection on Parthenia just west of Noble where Mias once was, now its still an iglesia of christ I believe, was rough. Not the worst spot in the valley but at night or when your are high on yayo and a white guy it is not a great spot to loiter alone.

Enough said, I usually pack a heater everywhere I roam. Especially, in the northeast valley. That being said, I should have known better and left it in the ride. Yet, that summer my cravings for asian tang combined w/my drug habit were getting the best of me. I was a bit paranoid. And very wierd. Thankfully, Mia and later Tina, who is a friend, were cool w/me. Tina liked to get high too. So did some of her girls at Topanga therapy. Good times... I digress. Sadly, Mia had already been arrested during the spring time. And now Tina was basically running MT by herself.

All of a sudden I hear screams, my girl tries to get up, and Tina tellls us Police now!!! Oh s**t, I am fucked for sure. OMG it was a false alarm. One of the new girls was watching the 4 way camera monitor and thought LE had pulled up out front on Parthenia. Well of course the mood was destroyed. I wanted to bail. Tina gave me 2 bottles of water and told me to come back tomorrow to get 30min for free. Of course, I did w/Michelle, we finished our play time together. Plus, I returned w/a new dress for her from Ardvark's thrift store. During the drama of the almost bust I ripped off her dress it was in the way of the restraints. LOL. She was thrilled and Tina laughed.

Please, remember this our favorite hobby is highly illegal. It is extemely scrutinized everywhere in LA county. Especially, the SFV. Where I live and play. We must adjust and fight LE w/their own cunning tactics. Things like PMing vital intel to trusted members only. Not giving away everything in detail about fixed location amps. Obviously, sw's on SB are different. Post everything about that fun. I certainly do. Be smarter than the man. Do not mine gold for these bastards. Make them work to find the "real amps" in a sea of fakes. Please, this just takes alittle bit more effort on our parts to fight back. However, in the long run it will save our hobby from extinction.

Peace, da Irie Sadist

The Flatline
06-03-08, 20:38
The fuckin' pigs pulled me over once as I was leaving my favorite MP. Apparently they had the place under surveilance. I don't want to disclose too many details but let's just say I got lucky. These pieces of shit could have taken me to jail if they had wanted to, not sure why they let me go. They could have made up some BS just to take me to jail. What a waste of tax payer's money, people get shot and killed in the valley just about every weekend and these mother fuckers (cops) have nothing better to do than have an MP under surveilance and arrest consenting adults, only in America (sorry Don King).

Oh and to answer your second question, if you get caught fuckin' inside the place, you're going to jail, not sure what the charges will be.

If I had to guess why you got off the hook, I can only think of 2 reasons.

1. They couldn't impound your car, as you had no working girl in it, so no money to be made.

2. When it boils right down to it, unless you admit what you did, there is zero proof you did anything illicit as soon as you walk out the door. We've all been to AMPs that offer "service", but we gave off the wrong vibe and got a half-assed massage.

Buck Nasty
06-04-08, 00:32
You're right, still, it was a fucked up experience. The issue is that these fuckin' pigs could have made up a lie just to take me in. They did give me a break but what bothers me is that there are more serious problems in the valley, read the Daily News, shootings at least twice a week now, and they happen in Van Nuys (Sherman Way street, Sepulveda Blvd., Van Nuys street, etc.) yet these pieces of shit waste their fuckin' time surveiling an MP, following MP customers, arresting consenting adults, etc.


If I had to guess why you got off the hook, I can only think of 2 reasons.

1. They couldn't impound your car, as you had no working girl in it, so no money to be made.

2. When it boils right down to it, unless you admit what you did, there is zero proof you did anything illicit as soon as you walk out the door. We've all been to AMPs that offer "service", but we gave off the wrong vibe and got a half-assed massage.

Buck Nasty
06-04-08, 00:38
Mias and Topanga wouldn't last a week open given the current LE action in the valley and way too many 'lose lips'. I'm surprised Topanga stayed open for almost a year (guessing), Mias stayed open for a while also. I know Mias fought hard to stay in business. They tried but these fuckin' pigs had nothing better to do than keep the place under surveilance and closed it down for good.

The business has to evolve, the MP business model in the valley does not work anymore, sure there are a couple of places here and there but it is not the same. Mias used to have up to 10 girls (or more) to choose from and the mama san made sure the girls 'pleased' the customers, that place was no joke, you got your money's worth there.


Mongers,

During a rather sensational adventure of mine back at Mias, during the summer of 2002, I had a near miss w/LE...

I believe I have posted about this a long time ago, on another thread, regarding something of a similar nature.


Long story short my K girl Michelle was tied up (literally) and I was buck naked w/a g-26 in my Dr bag of tricks. I had it for my personal safety. That intersection on Parthenia just west of Noble where Mias once was, now its still an iglesia of christ I believe, was rough. Not the worst spot in the valley but at night or when your are high on yayo and a white guy it is not a great spot to loiter alone.

Enough said, I usually pack a heater everywhere I roam. Especially, in the northeast valley. That being said, I should have known better and left it in the ride. Yet, that summer my cravings for asian tang combined w/my drug habit were getting the best of me. I was a bit paranoid. And very wierd. Thankfully, Mia and later Tina, who is a friend, were cool w/me. Tina liked to get high too. So did some of her girls at Topanga therapy. Good times... I digress. Sadly, Mia had already been arrested during the spring time. And now Tina was basically running MT by herself.

All of a sudden I hear screams, my girl tries to get up, and Tina tellls us Police now!!! Oh s**t, I am fucked for sure. OMG it was a false alarm. One of the new girls was watching the 4 way camera monitor and thought LE had pulled up out front on Parthenia. Well of course the mood was destroyed. I wanted to bail. Tina gave me 2 bottles of water and told me to come back tomorrow to get 30min for free. Of course, I did w/Michelle, we finished our play time together. Plus, I returned w/a new dress for her from Ardvark's thrift store. During the drama of the almost bust I ripped off her dress it was in the way of the restraints. LOL. She was thrilled and Tina laughed.

Please, remember this our favorite hobby is highly illegal. It is extemely scrutinized everywhere in LA county. Especially, the SFV. Where I live and play. We must adjust and fight LE w/their own cunning tactics. Things like PMing vital intel to trusted members only. Not giving away everything in detail about fixed location amps. Obviously, sw's on SB are different. Post everything about that fun. I certainly do. Be smarter than the man. Do not mine gold for these bastards. Make them work to find the "real amps" in a sea of fakes. Please, this just takes alittle bit more effort on our parts to fight back. However, in the long run it will save our hobby from extinction.

Peace, da Irie Sadist

Allover
06-04-08, 02:02
The fuckin' pigs pulled me over once as I was leaving my favorite MP. Apparently they had the place under surveilance. I don't want to disclose too many details but let's just say I got lucky.

Actually you didn't get lucky. The cops were just f'king with you. All they did was harass an AMP's customer. They were just being assholes. You did nothing illegal.

Vlad, great story. Funny as hell now but I'm sure it wasn't at the time. Personally I would keep your piece at home.

Buck Nasty
06-04-08, 23:51
I disagree, they decided to give me a break at some point during the 'street interrogation'. I was not a dick to them, I played it cool, knowing how corrupted cops (pigs) are, all they had to do is make up some BS and take me to jail. They had three police cars behind my vehicle and 6 fuckin' cops present at the time. All that drama to attempt to arrest someone leaving an MP. These pieces of shit ruined my game, once you experience what I had to go through, things are not the same ever again, yes, I still visit MPs, but not quite as much as I used to.

The MP I was leaving from that day was closed a few days later. That was the last 'half decent MP' left in the valley in my opinion.


Actually you didn't get lucky. The cops were just f'king with you. All they did was harass an AMP's customer. They were just being assholes. You did nothing illegal.

Vlad, great story. Funny as hell now but I'm sure it wasn't at the time. Personally I would keep your piece at home.

Roomba
06-05-08, 21:40
I agree, the business model needs to change a bit. OCA, thanks for those links, very interesting information that I have been curious about.

I'm actually curious about what laws are being violated by the customer. I have read that AMPs can be cited for even inappropriate attire, but what are the "johns" being charged with. If the LE do not have video/audio of the act of offering money for sex, where is the crime. Even if you get caught in the act, is it illegal to have sex with a woman in a private business? If so, it can't be prostitution cause there is no proof of money exchanging right? I'm still confused on all the legal aspects of it.

I honestly think that FS establishments need to go the HJ way. In a HJ only place, you pay for massage and never (or at least shouldn't) discuss anything sexual. The HJ just happens at some point. When done, you choose to give the girl a tip or not (you should). From my understanding of prostitution laws, no prostitution laws have been violated because I never offered or was requested to give money for something sexual. My tip was cause the girl gave a good massage.

If FS places did the same thing, perhaps they would get stiffed outta $ from some aholes, but it would happen only once from that unique person since they wouldn't service that person again. And, after the FS deed, it would be sorta ok to talk money anyways since obviously neither are LE. Whatya think?


Mias and Topanga wouldn't last a week open given the current LE action in the valley and way too many 'lose lips'. I'm surprised Topanga stayed open for almost a year (guessing), Mias stayed open for a while also. I know Mias fought hard to stay in business. They tried but these fuckin' pigs had nothing better to do than keep the place under surveilance and closed it down for good.

The business has to evolve, the MP business model in the valley does not work anymore, sure there are a couple of places here and there but it is not the same. Mias used to have up to 10 girls (or more) to choose from and the mama san made sure the girls 'pleased' the customers, that place was no joke, you got your money's worth there.

Krayzie2124
06-06-08, 02:02
1st post, but been reading the boards now and then. Haven't been in the MP scene but curiosity is tempting me to check it out for my self. From what I've read so far from past posts. That MP's are dying or dead all round The Valley. Well I've done some CL ads and had good experiences but I find it pretty risky to continue meeting up some of them CL chicks after I've heard stories of people gettin jacked. Ripped off and so on. I'm around the Northridge area and I see a few massage spots here and there some of them are even clumped pretty close to each other. Dunno if they are good ones or bad ones. And don't want to drive too far as gas prices have soared to what 4.40+ a gallon =(. Just wanted some tips from senior members if its possible to spot one with the naked eye or if you gotta juss go in and test it out for yourself. And if I do test a spot out anything I should keep a lookout for?

Sorry for such a noob post. Its juss my curiosity talkin is all.

Oc Amper
06-06-08, 17:53
If so, it can't be prostitution cause there is no proof of money exchanging right?

I think part of what is at play here, the police are only responsible for collecting evidence. The collect what they can, arrest you, hope that you make a statement. Then they turn it over to the presecution.

The prosecution is responsible for turning that evidence into proof of a crime. If they don't have enough or good enough evidence they could either drop it all together or try to get you to take a plea.

In the case of prostitution laws, the prosecution can size you up pretty easily. Not too many guys want prostitution charge, not too many guys are going to fight the charges if a plea is offered.

Looks like ca pc 647b and 653.20c are the primary penal code sections.

The attorney explains it pretty well.
http://www.lacriminaldefenseattorney.com/Prostitution.html

Accoding to him, the prosecution only needs to prove one of the following. I don't think so many juries will be willing to side with the defense here:

Solicit (strongly urge or entice) for an act of prostitution
Agree to engage in an act of prostitution
Engage in an act of prostitution

Defense Lawyer
06-09-08, 00:25
Long time lurker. I found this site while investigating a prostitution case I ended up doing a trial on. I've been lurking ever since. I think these prostitution laws are absurd, I represent people who are the worst of the worst (murders, rapes, robberies, shootings, etc), so when I see the amount of resources expended on these bullshit cases, it really pisses me off as a citizen. And if you want to talk about the expending of resources, I'll give you an example. In your typical day in WLA, the LAPD have, for the whole WLA station (that goes from Pacific Palisades down to Brentwood, east to LaCienega, south to Culver City, and north to Mullholland) a total of 1-2 cars for regular patrol. This means that if you have someone who robs you in your home and runs away, and you call 911, you have one, maybe 2 cars for that whole area protecting you. Mind you, they have plenty of traffic officers (lots of revenue there), vice (gotta love the stats), narcotics (more statistics), and gang (real, actual societal concerns, but generally going about it the wrong way) officers, but who knows if they're working at that time, and they don't have to respond to radio calls if they don't want to (and believe me, this is why they choose those units, so they don't have to respond to as many radio calls).

On a recent trial I did, they had about 20-25 police officers involved in a sting on Figueroa for 12 hours. You got that? They had 10 times as many officers on one Figueroa sting as they have patrolling all of West Los Angeles! That's outrageous.

Now, I've done some explanation of the crimes you could be popped for on the Fig Street walker section, but the MP are a totally different gig. You are far safer in that area. First of all, you don't face an arrest for 653. 22 (loitering with the intent to commit an act of prostitution). This is a "crime" where you do innocuous acts (ie. No actual acts of prostitution), but a cop "opines" that you were doing these acts with an intent to do an act of prostitution. Absurd, I know, but juries tend to give a lot of credence to this bullshit police officer "opinion" testimony.

Then there's the actual act of prostitution, or soliciting an act (which is how they usually get johns). The key here is to make sure that the person you're dealing with is not a cop. The best way to do that in the street is to get the girl in your car, or at least cop a good feel (cops won't typically get in your car or let you cop a feel). In a MP, the best bet is to get the girl somewhat naked, or at least get some feels on her so that you know she's not a cop. Don't discuss any money right off. Don't do it until she's massaged you quite a bit, and done things that cops would not do.

I would avoid all talk of money for sex. One suggestion I heard someone talk about in court was taking some money out of your wallet and leaving it partially viewable, so that you can say "I like to leave nice tips for great massages. " But, unless you're sure that girl is not a cop (by feeling her up or having her rub you down well), don't ever make arrangements.

If you can, try to do the negotiating without speaking, in case she's miked (although, in all of my years of doing this, I can't remember a case where they miked an actual provider in a sting. Only cops). I can't imagine they've video'd it. You'd have a great invasion of privacy issue if you didn't actually do any act of prostitution and they video'd you getting a naked. Legal. Massage.

Remember, these MPs are not illegal. You're not breaking any law by being there. If you are stopped by the police, tell them that you were getting a massage for your [insert high scool sporting injury here]. Continue to insist that you do not pay for sex, or better yet, say "I was getting a massage, nothing illegal about that, " and then tell them you want a lawyer if they're accusing you of doing something wrong.

Just be aware, police lie, and they may make up a case against you regardless. From reading these boards, I'd have to say your best bet may be driving 2 hours south to TJ, and doing it legally there (just don't get shot in a drug cartel war)

Stay safe all you guys, and if you have any questions about this stuff, feel free to PM me (although I'm not up on these boards all that often, so be patient if I don't get back to you quickly). Good luck mongering everyone, and don't become my client, please.

Krayzie2124
06-10-08, 02:05
Well I made an earlier noob post and a couple days later decided to juss try this AMP that was being advertised on a paper. Since it was nearby and I even called ahead for prices and such and as I did the mamasan sounded very convincing that there were sexy asians and latinas at the spot. So it helped me more on my decision to pick this as my first spot to hit up. I got there and it was. 4 for half. She was from China I believe and she was bout I'd guess 30ish but dressed very provocatively. In a short skirt and cute top. She led me into the room and told me to undress. She came back and rubbed me down with lotion for a few minutes then on the turn asked if I wanted some domeage. Well I wanted to experience the full potential of the place so I said eveything. I wanted to play it safe by using tips I read on these boards and on other sites. But she asked for $ up front for the whole enchilada. But I was a little hesitant but I told myself fuck it. Ends up it was koo and she wasn't LE or anything so we went right thru with the plan. With sum cbj to start. Followed by doggie. With mish to finish it off. Was an interesting first MP experience. Finally got my beak wet. Juss wanted to put this up as a little update to my last post.

Vlad De Sade
06-12-08, 02:23
Krazy,

Welcome to the fun.

Now YOU are a real full fledged monger.

Continue to explore the papers w/reckess abandon.

I did when I got the yellow fever more than a decade ago...

However, remember this always.

YOU have arrived late to the party.

Honestly, it ended in the SFV during the summer of 2004.

As such be forewarned.

This hobby is addictive.

This hobby is expensive.

This hobby is risky.

This hobby can get YOU either VD or the dreaded HIV...

In short, play safe and always be smarter than the man.

And never mine gold here, on an open thread, for LE.

Please, do PM all those that YOU do trust.

True, I ignored YOU initially.

As I do all newbies w/1 post asking for a hook up?

Thankfully, YOU were intrinsicly motivated.

Even better YOU knew enough to post just the important s**t w/no vital intel given away to LE or idiots who dont deserve to be mongering here.

Anyway, have fun KAMPing newbie.

I know I still do!!!

Peace, da Irie Sadist

Hititnquitit
06-18-08, 02:21
Hey guys, I went cruising AGAIN to find me an AMP but failed, AGAIN. I found this one thai massage that was open at around 10pm so I decided to check it out. I came in and the ambiance just seemed legit, however the young girl at the front kind've gave made me a double take. I noticed that two other places seemed closed down, so I was thinking that the whole ambiance thing was a front or a disguise. She looked too young to be a worker, so I decided not to spend 55 for an hour just to "test" it out. I obviously was not looking for a massage.

I really need some help here guys! I ended up at a bikini dancing bar where I met Nina, had 2 beers to ease the pain of my lakers losin to the celts. Anyways, the place was a disappointment as it did not offer any lapdances. Its along de soto if any of you guys are interested in just a show.

I think I wasted about 1/4 of gas just driving around the valley, so if any of you guys can give me some tips, it would help a ton!

Deez Nut
06-18-08, 15:03
Hey guys, I went cruising AGAIN to find me an AMP but failed, AGAIN. I found this one thai massage that was open at around 10pm so I decided to check it out. I came in and the ambiance just seemed legit, however the young girl at the front kind've gave made me a double take. I noticed that two other places seemed closed down, so I was thinking that the whole ambiance thing was a front or a disguise. She looked too young to be a worker, so I decided not to spend 55 for an hour just to "test" it out. I obviously was not looking for a massage.

I really need some help here guys! I ended up at a bikini dancing bar where I met Nina, had 2 beers to ease the pain of my lakers losin to the celts. Anyways, the place was a disappointment as it did not offer any lapdances. Its along de soto if any of you guys are interested in just a show.

I think I wasted about 1/4 of gas just driving around the valley, so if any of you guys can give me some tips, it would help a ton!You're obviously not looking hard enough. Pick yourself up a LA Weekly and that's were you can find almost all the AMP in the valley. Happy Hunting!!

Deez Nut

Oc Amper
06-19-08, 01:41
I think I wasted about 1/4 of gas just driving around the valley, so if any of you guys can give me some tips, it would help a ton!
It doesn't get any easier than looking at some of my previous posts.

Vlad De Sade
06-19-08, 03:05
OCA,

Please, do not help this guy at all.

He has PM'd me too.

He is either another lapd vice pig...

Or he is JAFO that seems to be stupid, lazy and not somebody any of us would probably wanna hang out with...

My point is this.

There are NO SHORTCUTS NEWBIES to be learned here.

YOU get out what YOU put into this hobby.

We have all gleaned invaluable experiences while wasting our time, $$$ and gas looking for tang.

In fact, its the hard work, numerous failure's and the all to real life drama that makes it all worth it.

Get off your ass and figure it out already.

This is not rocket science.

Its f**king sex for $$$.

Its not even a real relationship.

We f**k strangers that we pretend are our gfe's...

I am so sick of this s**t.

I am not going to send some punk kid to one of the few spots that are still operating!

Why should I risk loosing what I barely have left for someone who brings nothing to the table.

WTF can YOU do for us...

Quit complaining and asking questions that have already been addressed here.

And finally, start mongering, wasting your time, gas & $$$ like all of us real mongers have done and still do...

And then get a clue.

This, our favorite hobby, is highly illegal and it is under intense pressure from all LE agencies in LA county.

If YOU dont know what to do already this thread is not the place to be learning.

This is a place where real mongers share real intel w/other trusted members via our forums PM feature so we can all get laid.

Damn, dude just RTFF already!!!

Late, da Irie Sadist

Craig53
06-24-08, 11:23
I went to the AMP off Darby in Reseda on late Sunday. Not FS. I never tried for FS because the girls aren't my type but they provide a REALLY good professional massage along with a HJ. I get legit massages at other places and they aren't as good as the girls there. They must train these girls good in China! The prices are good as well. Never a hassle there and they never talk about money for the extras. She said business was slow. The girls there are skinny but not attractive in my opinion. All Asian staff. Some allow touching. I recommend this place if you just want to unwind and get a good massage with HE.

Hititnquitit
06-24-08, 23:45
To turn away from the negative energy I'm receiving, I will post my first official (since I am a newbie in this forum) AMP experience. I wanted to dedicate this one to the all mighty great monger, Vlad. So anyways, I did my homework and came accross an ad that noted, "she do good job". So it was quite obvious what they offered, especially with the broken english. I do not know the name of the place since it did not have a name in front and the complex itself looked pretty much abandoned. I drove around it just to do my own scoping out, I noticed a white SUV parked directly accross from it with tinted black windows and the way it was parked was just suspicious since it was alone and not close to any of the business'. When I came back it was gone. So I went for it even though my gut said no. I was greeted by about a 35 yearold Chinese lady, tall, but not attractive. The front desk had a monitor with the camera views outside and inside which really gave it away. I laid face down nakid as she came back in. I played it safe, stayed quiet, and let her lead the way as she started to give me a decent massage. At first we were alone but then I heard voices, the doorbell rang like 3 times during massage and it seemed like a package was being delivered, she left the room whenever the doorbell rang as well or sometimes not even when the doorbell rang. I was pretty much a little freaked out to be honest since that never happened to me before. Finally another door bell, she walked out, came back in, she did not say a word at the door (since my room was right next to the front door) and then I hear a helicopter. Right when the helicopter sounded she whispered "oh sh! T". She brushed it off and said, "oh no, too many customer. " She later tried to fish for a quick hand job in which I decided to not even go for. I left with a pretty good massage, . 6 out of my pocket and I'm probably not going back to that one ever again.

So just to "help" out, I wouldn't recommend this place to any of you guys if any of you are looking in the Winnetka area.

Anonymous
07-10-08, 13:26
They advertise on CL in Reseda on corner of Saticoy and Canby. (If I liked this place I would of course not post their address here).

$40 for a 1/2 hour which was a horrible 10 minute massage before the flip. She then asked for $100 to take off her top and HJ, I told her no way and gave her $40 for just the HJ and still feel like I got ripped off. The chick was smoking though, cute little Thai girl with beautiful big tits, but no way worth a $100 just to see them.

I've got my spot where for $80-$100 total you get an awesome 1 hour massage and a nice HE, which is all I need. I should just stick to it but as you all know half the fun is discovering new spots!

Blitz Dog
07-19-08, 20:42
The Dog is back it’s been awhile since my last post BUT damn I am on the move. I was in the San Fernando Valley and came across a spot called Orchid therapy on Van Nuys Blvd (sixsixfoursix) near Vanowen. The door is normal price $40 for 30 min. I walked in and saw some nice providers, young Latina girls 20 -25. I had a great session with Gabby or was her name Linda? Damn I forgot! I am horrible with names BUT in this game do we really need to remember a name? hahaha! Just ask for one and then the other if you get a strange look! I know she spoke English! Anyways she is a real nice Latina who’s service is good! (Mish/doggie/CBJ) tip was $100 Well worth it! She told me to send friends her way and that she could get them a small special at the door (35 min for $35), SO hey guys tell the hostess Blitzdog sent you and get $5 off door and 5 extra minuets of play! SO I can get a special gift (whatever that is)? Hahaha! I think they close at 9pm!

Vlad De Sade
07-20-08, 03:16
Mongers,

Nico, has provided a nice simple one page article for all newbies to read!

Peace, da Irie Sadist

Ritchey Rich
07-20-08, 17:31
Very good info on there. Thanks for posting the link.



Stumbled upon this site http://www.********.net/ has some pretty good useful information

OC Man
07-25-08, 04:31
Same place on Sepulveda....the two hotties from Fridays past were not there (Gina says Economy is bad so they are not busy)

Gina proves not to dissappoint last 3 visits.

Nice. ***
.5 + $

OC Man

Blitz Dog
07-25-08, 20:31
Hey I hit Orchid again (address in previous post) and had an excellent time with a girl named Paula a thin latina blond girl about 24 - 25 tall and light skinned. She gave me amazing service and $1.00 was the tip, good action MIS/CBJ/Ball massage! I am getting to like this spot, hey tell the hostess that teh dog sent you!

Peace and Release

Blitzdog

The Flatline
07-31-08, 20:54
Sometimes the water is sweetest in the desert (when you find it).

Had some extra cash on me, and had taken a break from the hobby for a while because of other hobbies, but today I decided to change things up. I ended up hitting up a place that had been recommended to me by Vlad some time back, and so I swung in and splurged the money for 45 minutes of time (70 bucks).

I'm still dropping trou when in walks this little korean girl with one of THE best bodies I've ever seen. I've instantly got a semi just from watching her walk in. She introduces herself as yumi or yui or something like that. We start talking during her lame massage (though she does get my back to crack and worked out a knot of stress I had, so I guess it was a passable massage) and we small talk about her time here (1 year) what the weather's like in Korea (rains a lot in the summer) and how old she is (23 she says but she looks like she's 18). She's probably about 97 pounds soaking wet, and has what can only sadly be described as a butterface to be gentle. Just not my thing at all, and the teeth were atrocious too. It's okay though, because besides the little B cups she had (with eraser nips) she had a *tight* ass and was thin, thin, thin with the softest skin.

She's pummelling my back halfheartedly when she asks "do you want everything?". I say "hell yes I'd pout if I didn't" and she laughs and says "be right back" and splits. No mention of a tip! I don't know about anyone else, but I hate it when they haggle with you up front. Usually tells me it's going to be mechanical and half-hearted. My ATFs have never mentioned price, even when they have never met me before.

She comes back in with some lube and a condom, and strips down. God what a body! Thick thatch of what I can only describe as "asian bush" which I'm not a huge fan of (though sometimes it's nice, dated an asian girl for a while and to change things up she'd grow it out a bit) and basically stretches herself over me. Light kissing, nibbling of my nipples, the usual stuff, but she's rubbing that fine-ass body all over me and Junior's raring to go. I'm running fingertips all over her and well before she gets down to the little dude at full attention her nips are hard as granite. That's another good sign, when their body responds to teasing. On goes the rubber and the CBJ, which is not the best, but still pretty good considering her mouth is probably too small for my member. She still deep throats it though, which I was impressed. A little bit of lube (caressing me too, not just slather it on) and she's off CG style, slowly, letting herself stretch out on me. I grind up into her in the mean time, hoping she gets some clit action going to relax her, and soon enough she starts with the asian equivalent of moaning: the squeal. Yeah, you guys know the squeal I'm talking about. Half squeak, half moan. She's getting her hips into it, and we're speeding up. After a few minutes and her nearly hitting the O (not sure why she stopped) she offered to switch positions. Doggy style now, oh. my. god. she's got a cute cooch and the nicest little ass. I go to town, meaning to be slow (I'm too big apparently) but she drops her shoulders and shoves her ass up and it's ON. After a while I push her hips down and get nice and over her and start probing for where her Gspot is. I find it and rock my hips so I'm hitting the spot like a jackhammer, and she wraps her legs around me (bends them backwards to do it too!) and shoves her face down into the pillow so she can let go full volume. Her tight little cooch goes from warm to hot (aroused) to freaking furnace hot (out of control) and her cute little ass tenses up into a solid brick of muscle.

We flip her over next and go mish, which she says she prefers, and by now the lube is totally abandoned, she's that wet. I rock my hips up again and start grinding her clit and what I can only describe as "popping" into her with each thrust, and her eyes go freaking wild when I don't stop. Started to rub her clit too but she asked to stop since it tickled too much, which was okay. I pulled her up to me (as I said, she weighed nothing) and go to town again, and she buries her face in the nape of my neck and squeaks and squeals.

I asked her to finish me off CG again, and at this point she's glowing with sweat, I'm hot and starting to sweat good, and she just wraps around me and lets me brutalize her with a nice, long, hard bang, until I finally pop. She sits up with a dazed look and tells me she couldn't believe that. I apologize and said that I had to rush because we only had 45 minutes, which made her thighs (she was straddling me) twitch as she thought about it.

Warm towel, talked a little (she loves starcraft, I think it's in the korean's genetics at this point), and I mentioned thinking about going to blizzcon to check out starcraft 2, which she immediately asked if she could go. I told her we'd get together a few more times before I decided (bullsh*t, I've already decided. Unless I get like ungodly amounts of 'tang from her the answer is no) and she was cool with that.

I tipped her 100, which is 20 bucks more than I usually have to tip in the 'nard, but for prime korean tail (aside from the dogface), and that asian squeak I haven't heard in a while, it was more than worth the higher cost of entry & tip. She never mentioned or went for the tip either, which was deeply welcome. She works Wednesdays & Thursdays, and Senior Members can message me for the location (Vlad, you know the place already, you let me onto it!).

I suspect if I went there a couple more times I could easily get digits and hook up outside. She all but asked me to take her out tonight after work, but I made some crap up about working late and not partying on a work night. Not sure how I feel about spending time around someone when I only want to tap the ass.

Vlad De Sade
08-01-08, 01:17
My old friend,

Brother, IMHO just keep having fun w/her.

I would not recommend dating any of the girls at the spot.

The turn over there is very high and they are all kids.

Just keep having fun w/her via no strings attached pay for play.

If YOU date her all your $$$ will probably start flowing out of your pockets for what will likely be less fun than YOU have had banging her amp style (all that illegality makes me nut harder LOL)!

If it works out for YOU then great I say.

Just don't hold your breath.

Remember this she always has 3 holes for rent...

Peace, da I Sadist

The Flatline
08-01-08, 02:26
My old friend,

Brother, IMHO just keep having fun w/her.

I would not recommend dating any of the girls at the spot.

The turn over there is very high and they are all kids.

Just keep having fun w/her via no strings attached pay for play.

If YOU date her all your $$$ will probably start flowing out of your pockets for what will likely be less fun than YOU have had banging her amp style (all that illegality makes me nut harder LOL)!

If it works out for YOU then great I say.

Just don't hold your breath.

Remember she is has 3 holes for rent...

Peace, da I Sadist

That's exactly why I don't date right now. Too friggin expensive. It's easier to go drop a bill or so and get my nut off. And you're right, her nearly suffocating herself so that she didn't scream out and alert the neighbors was a pretty big turn on.

I never have dated or seen someone OTC as it were, and I'm not about to change that streak. It'd be nice to nail her for a few hours without watching the clock, but in the end it's not worth it. I'd have to reactivate the disposable... I mean pre-paid phone, and start all that crap up again.

Besides, I'd be sort of embarrassed to be seen with this girl's face next to me. She looks great sucking cock, but otherwise yikes...

Dochi83
08-17-08, 00:17
Anybody else been to Orchid? I tried to find it, but it doesn't seem to have a front entrance. Is the entrance in the back, off the alley?

Vlad De Sade
08-17-08, 04:33
Mongers,

Friday was fun...

I was done w/my business in Reseda at around 11:45am.

I was ready to play.

I drove west on Roscoe to Canoga.

I hit up the Wet Spot for some pregame fun.

I just wanted to get my head right for the fun to come...

I immediately had a black spinner named Kimberly all over me.

I gave in.

Her body was a perfect 10.

Sadly, her face was just a 5 for me.

Anyways, she is from Henderson, NV.

We chatted for a few and I told her $40 for 3 songs was cool w/me.

And away we went to a booth.

Needless to say my 8" f**k stick began creeping out of my underwear & shorts w/in minutes.

During the first song I had her telling me she loves anal sex.

Yeah, right my ass.

LOL!!!

I have never met a sista that did anal w/a smile...

Well her nasty talk, all lies for sure, was fun.

By the second song I had already grabbed her shaved twat.

She freaks and says slow down "cant let the manager see" this.

Then I sucked her perfect little girl tits.

Next, I decided to spank.

And spank her I did.

I popped that left butt cheek w/all I had 3 quick times in a row.

She freaked again and turned full frontal on me to defend her naked ass.

At this point, I was fully hard and flashing her often.

Now, she says, "YOU got a big dick; damn white boy its thick."

Just what we all wanna hear in the club....

So I laugh, having fun pushing the envelope, wondering what crap is gonna spew out of her lying ass mouth next.

I do despise these stripper wh**es!

Every last one...

Knowing that my time is short, and because I cant wait to see one of my girlfriends in the next 1/2 hr, I said wtf and took out my entire cock and rubbed it onto her bare rt thigh moving it towards her p**sy.

She actually grabbed my naked junk and pushed it away.

I just pushed it back onto her, skin on skin, w/my shorts covering the deed.

Good times messing w/another lame ass hoe.

At this point, she starts selling me on her Asian girlfriend.

"Wanna have us both?" they ask.

Do I like Asian girls?

Do I like these tits? (as her friend undoes her bra and rubs her nipples in my face).

I laugh and tell her my girl is Asian, and I do love her fat titties (she was a thick Amerasian girl), but no thanks I am leaving to go and bang one of my Kgirlfriends immediately!

I pay my new black friend her $40 and say my farewells to one and all...

I get followed out by 2 white s**ts who ask if I am coming back or leaving?

I say its been a nice afternoon interlude ladies but now I am on my way to bust a real nut!!!

I leave happy and excited.

Just what I wanted from my 20 min diversion.

I arrive at the hole in a wall as I call it...

W/in a half hour I am w/my regular Kgirl girlfriend sucking on her mouth as she bbbj's me into total exxxstacy.

After an hour of exploring my girls beautiful pale naked body I was nearly ready to explode.

I had a hard decision to make boys.

Should I shoot my load down her throat again, onto her face/hair or into the condom as I continued pumping her mercilessly?

I decide on a compromise by ripping off the condom as I spew violently onto her belly and hands...

I do love this girl.

She is 38 and still fucks me like a lbfm.

Actually, better than many of my young girlfriends.

For one reason.

Little girls are clueless about what I like and how to get it done.

W/my favorite she just knows naturally what to do.

I call it chemistry.

I wish I could have many wives...

Because I love many, many women!

After she cleaned me up we talked for a few and then I gave her much love.

I would give her a-lot more if she was my real girl and not just a great sexual escape...

Alas, she is what she is and I love her for it!

Peace, da I Sadist

The Flatline
08-19-08, 00:48
You are my goddamn hero. Not only did I head back to bang that little kgirl I reported on (and nutted off even harder, she's officially hit ATF status) thanks to your intel, but you f*cked with the cheap bitchy strippers at the wet spot. I used to love that place and it went downhill hard. Haven't been back in a year or so after one of my favorite girls there tried to jack the price of some lapdances up like 60-80 bucks or so.

I love that you didn't get f*cked with. I love that you turned the tables on them. I love that you got your nut off better with your kgirl.

As I said, you are too damn awesome.

Now if only wednesday would roll around quicker so I can bang the shiat out of the kgirl I keep seeing!

Vlad De Sade
08-19-08, 02:43
Brother,

I do despise the girls at the Wet Spot!

Actually, I hate all the cock teasing, fake bolt on, complaining, immature, manipulating bi**hes I always find in SFV strip clubs...

Why of course I already know they are scheming inside before I roll in.

I just can't resist having fun, whether I am high or straight, w/lame ass girls that I would gladly bang but would never spend my time w/in real life.

Its rare but when the urge arises and I have an xxxtra 40 - 60 to throw away on a living doll its all good stimulation for the fire works to cum...

Finally, my old friend, I am glad YOU nailed your star-craft girl again she sounds like a-lot of fun.

Later, Da I Sadist

Mr Sixty
08-21-08, 03:08
Hi Vlad,

I have enjoyed your reports for a long time, but I'm a little confused with your latest. You mentioned getting a lap at the Wet Spot. I've been there a zillion times, and never even been offered a lap. I didn't know they even had them! I was wondering if you meant Xposed next door? (Wet Spot is the alcohol bar, Xposed is the nude club.)

Or maybe there is some time of day when they do laps there? If so, where?

Thanks,

Mr. Sixty

Vlad De Sade
08-22-08, 02:55
Brother,

The door on the left enters club Xposed.

The door on the right enters the Wet Spot.

I went left and got a booth on the ground level, left hand side, behind the bar area.

Sorry about that bro...

Peace, VDS

The Flatline
08-22-08, 06:34
Brother,

The door on the left enters club Xposed.

The door on the right enters the Wet Spot.

I went left and got a booth on the ground level, left hand side, behind the bar area.

Sorry about that bro...

Peace, VDS

Speaking of XPosed, are they using the lapdance meter things that they installed in the booths? They had been there a couple of months last I went and nobody was using them yet.

Mr Sixty
08-22-08, 20:31
Brother,

The door on the left enters club Xposed.

The door on the right enters the Wet Spot.

I went left and got a booth on the ground level, left hand side, behind the bar area.

Sorry about that bro...

Peace, VDSNo apology needed. I was just afraid that maybe I had missing out all this time! :)

Peace,

Mr 60

Mr Sixty
08-22-08, 20:54
I have found two CAMPs in the Valley, that together I have tried five times in the last two months. I mistakenly posted reports in the Los Angeles forum before I discovered this separate forum for the Valley.

Both places advertise in CL, one of them in therapeutic services (let's call it VN1), the other in both therapeutic and occasionally erotic services (VN2). Both are in nondescript office buildings. I don't think either of them has ANY exterior sign.

The one that advertises in erotic services did not used to put any address in their ad, but now that they are advertising in therapeutic, they do show their address now and then.

Anyway, both of these places are very hit-and-miss with regard to quality. The caregivers tend to be older... I'd say young-looking 30-to-40-something range. Two have looked more like mamasans than caregivers. The last time I was at the VN2 place though, I had a spectacular, young, large-breasted caregiver, who was just amazing to look at.

For both places, the drill is the same: A different person answers the door every time I go. She takes the money and leads me to a room, then shuts the door. I disrobe, lie on the table, cover myself with the towel, and put $40 on a nearby countertop.

At that point, I get a fantastic massage. 4 of the 5 have been among the best I've ever had. The caregiver always removes the towel as soon as she enters the room. She gives me a massage, and on the flip, says something safely cryptic. (One just pointed at me and said, "Balls?" Another one pointed at me and said, "Oil?") I nod, and she gives me a nice finish. If we are short of the allotted time, she comes back after they clean me up and continue the session.

All have been polite, courteous, and thankful for the tip. I have never had an indication that more is available, and I don't seek it, but given how easy the basic rub'n'tug is, I can only assume that more *could* be available, at least some of the time. VN1 heavily advertises four-hands massage and table shower, but neither have been offered on any of my visits. (In fact, it usually seems at both places that there is only one provider available, though I sometimes hear voices outside the room during my session.)

And, as I said, the massages have been great. Better yet, two of the finishes I've received have been mind-numbingly good. I didn't think it was possible to have much of a quality range, but I don't think I've had my bar set high enough. These were exceptional; in terms of quality of effort, I'd say GFE is an insult, because I've never had a girlfriend do that good a job. (Though outside the task itself, there is ZERO sense of intimacy... sigh... you can't have it all.)

There is a new place I want to try, based on a report I saw recently from OC Man. It is also in the central valley, and is upstairs in a business plaza. I stopped by last week, and the elevator to get upstairs is apparently locked after hours. If anyone reading this thinks they know the place I'm talking about, and can confirm I'm heading in the right direction, I'd appreciate a nod.(Thanks!)

Mr. 60

The Flatline
08-24-08, 06:14
And, as I said, the massages have been great. Better yet, two of the finishes I've received have been mind-numbingly good. I didn't think it was possible to have much of a quality range, but I don't think I've had my bar set high enough. These were exceptional; in terms of quality of effort, I'd say GFE is an insult, because I've never had a girlfriend do that good a job. (Though outside the task itself, there is ZERO sense of intimacy... sigh... you can't have it all.)


It's entirely possible for you to find girls that give you intimacy. Look at my rave reviews of the AMP Vlad hooked me up with. I went 2 weeks ago or so again and got pretty much a GFE from the kgal and it was fantastic. The accent is almost impenetrable but she appreciates that I try to carry on a conversation. We talk like we see each other all the time (it's only been two or three times) and I think it helps her relax and enjoy the situation more.

I find that if you don't talk, you get mechanical service. If you chitchat with them, flirt lightly, etc etc, you get a lot better of a time out of them sometimes. Also, time of day, what day you go on, and so forth have an impact. If you're going late in the day, they're tired from working so long (they work 12 hour shifts many times), if you go on the weekend they're blown out busy. If you see the same girl a few times, you build up a rapport with them and they become more comfortable around you. If you get FS going, pay attention to them, unless you're an animal like Vlad, in which case you're there to use and abuse the talent LOL.

Finally, if a woman's worked at an AMP long enough she gets mechanical. The ones that are new or fresh are the keepers. It's sad but it's the way of the business, and part of why they keep running new girls through the amps constantly.

If you can hook up the board (or more specifically senior members) with some good intel, they'll hook you up in return, even if sometimes they already know what you're sharing. You have to put your time and money in like all of us, but afterwards the situation improves dramatically.

Courtrat
08-25-08, 14:21
Went to a MP in Van Nuys. Most people know where it is and if you are legit. I will give you the name if you PM me. Met up with Angelica. A Venezuelan beauty. She works on Wed. and Sat.
She is in her mid-20's and has an great body (with bolt-ons of course) and attitude. She gave me a great CBJ followed by CG. But the best thing was when I was laying some great pipe and she started to play with her clit until she came. I then turned her around and just pounded away to termination. She cleaned me up and got me some bottled water.
I've been here before and been with other Latinas. But this girl really aims to please.
.5 for mamasan and 1.0 for the full service.

Mr Sixty
08-25-08, 23:39
It's entirely possible for you to find girls that give you intimacy. Look at my rave reviews of the AMP Vlad hooked me up with. I went 2 weeks ago or so again and got pretty much a GFE from the kgal and it was fantastic. The accent is almost impenetrable but she appreciates that I try to carry on a conversation. We talk like we see each other all the time (it's only been two or three times) and I think it helps her relax and enjoy the situation more.

Thanks for the advice. I'm kind of in a middle ground... I absolutely don't want FS. Sometimes, a CBJ would be nice, but I'm not really looking for that either. I am a paradoxical perv-germophobe, so a handie is about all I can handle. :)

Same goes for intimacy... I don't want a machine, but I am not really looking to make friends either. I do chat a little bit, but I don't really want to get into anyone's personal life. The Olympics was a great icebreaker, because we could chat a little about China and the different regions and languages. (I discovered it is appreciated if you know that there is not a language called "Chinese"!)

So, quality of effort is really good enough for me. I don't need to cuddle afterwards, or kiss, or any of that.

Until recently, I was all about the clubs, but that whole scene has become boring and tiresome. Too much hustle, too little ROI. I prefer to leave the experience feeling pampered, not assaulted.

I will try the place I've been wanting to check out and report back here.

Mr 60

Mr Sixty
09-04-08, 02:31
I was really interested in finding the place OC_Man reported on a few weeks ago. Where he saw Gina. I narrowed down my choices to one place, in the central valley. It is on a well-known main thoroughfare, and is on the second floor of a strip mall/office building. I had stopped by a week ago, and the place was closed. You have to take an elevator to get to it, and the elevator is locked at 8:30pm. I got there at 8:10, but figured I would give it a try. I opened the door and walked in, and the place was dark. I rang the bell, and an mildly attractive but not very sexy woman came to the front desk. "Is it too late for a 30-minute massage? " I asked. "No, " she replied, "but didn't you notice the 'closed' sign? " I had walked right in without noticing it.

So, she says, "No worries, " leads me to the room, tells me to get ready. I strip down and lie on the table. There is no towel. She comes in, starts rubbing me, then reaches between my legs and plays with my balls. "You want? " she asks and makes the universal HJ motion. I say sure, and she gives me a light sexy massage across my back, with one hand, while paying constant to my balls and crack. After 2 minutes, she has me turn over, pours on the lotion and goes to town.

This isn't a happy ending, or a happy beginning. It's just happy-and-done. I ask her, "Don't I get a massage? " and she says not this time, because they are closed, but come back and she will take care of me. Her name is Annie.

So thanks OC_Man, assuming I found the right place!

Given that she didn't even pretend to start a massage, I'm sure more is available here than a handie. I'll have to go back and look for Gina. FWIW, the parking lot of this place is scary. I wouldn't go back much later than 8:30! Lots of "characters" hanging out all around.

Oh yeah. Cover was. 4 and tip was. 4. A rip-off for the 10-12 minutes of actual service, but it was worth TOFTT to confirm that this has the most potential of the three places I've found so far mid-valley.

Lbsmooth11
09-05-08, 01:53
Am I really posting here? I moved to this side of the country over a year ago and found that the Valley, compared to where I used to live, is far from dead my friends. I live in North Hollywood and have been to 4 providers w/in the area. One is my favorite. Out of respect for our hobby, I will not disclose the location, however, PM me and we can share information. From the first time I started going to this place, I always received a decent massage from the same girl. She pays close attention to the balls and ass. Enough, that I often find myself doing a bridge/spread eagle so she can fully reach around. After about the 3rd time, I told her I wanted to massage her. She was happy to hear than and layed down, legs spread. I was massaging her stark naked, fully aroused and giving her an ass massage and even rubbing the puss. At this time, she started giving me a HJ. I proceeded to pull her pants and underware down and she was all for it. 2 minutes later, we were totally nude. She asked me if I had a condom, but I didn't. However, she gave me a HJ while I straddled her stomach. Needless to say, everytime I go there, I am always prepared. 4 at the door and another. 4-. 6 depending on what I get.

Hofodickfo
09-08-08, 01:48
Whats up fellow mongers, havent posted in a while. Been busy with work trying to earn a living, with little to no extra income to blow on the hobby.

I wanted to give you all a heads up though that there is a bunch of new spots opening up here in Simi Valley. Some experiences I had so far, where not much worth reporting about. Few months back was driving and noticed a new little hole in the wall place. Figured I would stop by and window shop a bit. Walked in, was a room with 2 closed doors, camera in the corner of the room, 2 couches, business cards, and a coffee table. I grabbed a business card and sat down for a minute. No one came out, probably busy with other customers so I split. My other experience was few months backed, checked out this new amp that had just opened. Me and a friend went there it was right near closing, mamasan was an older, unattractive woman, we asked if anyone else was working, she said no, we split.

I will report more when I know more, be safe all.

Wander4fun
09-13-08, 16:33
There are a couple places in SV where you can get an exceptional massage and leave with a smile on your face, and with a youger provider (mid 20's), but you have to shop a lot till you find it. Many AMPs are very careful and really need to know you before they get too carried away. But there is variety to be had if you shop a bit.

Griddle Cakes
09-15-08, 19:12
Cozy (for those who know of it by name) is crap. I saw June there last week and her attitude is the only thing worse than her moves. I'm a pretty nice guy and didn't do anything impolite. Maybe others among you have had better experiences there, but I won't be going back.

Napretep123
09-16-08, 02:51
Does anyone have information on a new (I think) MP that has both aisan and latina staff in northridge on reseda? I walked in and a petite latina walked into the room near the entrance and an aisan chick came out and said .5 I asked if there are any latinas. She said yes but that she already has a customer. The place did not look like just a HJ type of place but a FS. Unfortunetly I was running late to an appointment so I could not wait for her to come out. If anybody has information about this place please PM me. Also if anbody want more information about the exact location, I can PM the information.

Napretep123
10-04-08, 01:56
I went to retry this place. The first time I was there, a nice looking latina came in with a cotton ball and some fragrances. I tried to make a move but she looked bothered, so I thought that maybe I'm in the wrong pplace. I did not understand what the f*** that was all about. But, since I've seen a few reviews, I decided to try again. I walked in and the lady at the front looked at me like she knew me so I asked who is working today. She told me she has too ladys. I asked her if I can see them since I did not recognize the names (how could I, I was their only one time almost a year ago). One of them looked OK but the second one was like an LA 9. I was amazed how hot and young she looked in such a dump.

I paid .4 (the time before it was .5, who knows maybe it is the economy) at the door and she asked what I want, I said everything, and she asked for 1.0 I countered with .8 and she accepted. I also asked about greek and she said she does not do that. After a couple more minutes she said if you have 3.0 I'll do greek. Unfortunetly or fortunetly depending on which head is being used at the time, I did not have 3.0. Does any one know the going rate for greek in a MP, if there is such a thing?

Anyway, we started the session and she looked amazing. I do not know if she had a bad day, but she did not seem happy to do what she was doing, she would not take the bra off, she did not want me to play with the kitty, she gave an ok cbj but nothing special. I started to lose my interest. Then came a surprise she climbed on top after lubing herself and she was as tight as can be. I don't think I've ever been with someone so tight, well since high school. It felt great and barely lasted 10 min. We started with CG than I bend her over went for Doggie. I f***ed her so hard and fast I was getting dizzy. Overall I had quite a lot of funwith a total demage of 1.2

James Compton
10-06-08, 19:52
I've been noticin the amp ladies in the valley have been gettin bruises and bite marks. Take care of them ladies gentlemen. No need to leave marks like the dogs we are. Ive seen them on three girls in the past two weeks.

James Compton
10-06-08, 20:02
Anybody else been to Orchid? I tried to find it, but it doesn't seem to have a front entrance. Is the entrance in the back, off the alley?Found same thing here. Locked front and back. Security camera in the back. Adjacent to a county building. Detective car parked on the side. Looks like trouble. Called #. Dude said its aroma.

James Compton
10-11-08, 21:34
I went to retry this place. The first time I was there, a nice looking latina came in with a cotton ball and some fragrances. I tried to make a move but she looked bothered, so I thought that maybe I'm in the wrong place.Went to stake out this place. Very difficult to find but got help from a fellow monger. I saw a hot blonde latina with contacts on. She saw me at the window and scrammed. I think that was NAPs girl. In walked this ugly latina at the window who confirmed it was $40 to get in. Open only till 8pm. Didn't feel like doing anything as I had just hit a nearby AMP. Yes, I am an addict. Anyways, the place is hot, stinky, rundown, etc. However, heard good ratings on one of the girls and decided I would return.

Here is what changed my mind about going back. As I am walking out, in walks a fat, dirty, day laborer. Looked like he just cleaned out somebody's yard. I'll call him Ramon. Excuse me, but if Ramon is putting his shlong on these chicks, they cannot be clean. I am sorry but most of the AMPs I hit would never take a customer dressed like that and looking like that. The most they would get is a HJ. And if that Ramon is telling his fellow laborers, then I can see why the girl in there did not enjoy what she was doing to one of the mongers here. That's probably why these girls get mechanical. Fat, ugly, undeducated dudes who treat them like crap. Sorry, I'll risk an STD and bad attitude somewhere else. And mongers, be careful the kind of people you tell about the good ones. If they have a loose mouth, they end up telling the scum of the earth HIV drug addict friend who will refer it to his scummy friends and put us and the girls at risk. Remember, not all advertise for a reason. It is to keep these people away. BTW, no racial hatred meant towards laborers. Just keepin it real.

CrackBack
10-12-08, 18:14
It is to keep these people away. BTW, no racial hatred meant towards laborers. Just keepin it real. I'm not sure that you are racist but you are definitely something ist.

First of all I don't think that dude is more likely to have diseases because he works hard outdoors.

Second a clean cut guy that likes trannies and then sees a girl before you is probably way more dangerous to you.

Third I try to keep out of the I'm better than other people thinking.

Might want to be a little more opened.

But in your defense you can certainly not want to go to a place because it is dirty and low budget.

James Compton
10-14-08, 19:39
1. Good point.

2. You're right.

3. Better than most.

Madmadhh
10-14-08, 20:59
Ok, So this is my very first post. I thought since I have read most of the post here, I would add my own. Last saterday I thought I would try this Amp place on Saticoy and Reseda.

So off I go, when I got to the place only two ladies were working. One was asian and the other latina. The latina was was the only one avalible at the time, she was not the best looking by my standards but the little head was doing the thinking, so off I go.

Although you know what was on the menu with out me saying. Personaly I think this place would fall under the catogory of close it down. The rooms were smelly, the message lasted 5min which was really bad. On the flip she had bad hand skills and when she got closer she smelled bad. Guys this place is bad news and is a rush joint. This is one place I suggest you dont go.

I hope you find this helpfull.

Vlad De Sade
10-15-08, 03:23
Mongers,

Some places are better than others.

That s**t about day laborers made me LOL.

YOU strike me as an elitist f**k wad.

Back in the day James both Topanga & Devonshire, in the way west SFV, were often frequented by filthy, dirty, day laborers, gardeners, pool cleaners, mail men, etc...

I know this because I used to hook Mama San Tina up w/her particular poison, which was blow, and as such I spent an inordinate amount of time at both locations...

Good times!

Anyways, many different men some rich, some middle class and some poor came through the doors...

And they all had two things in common; a stiff penis and a fist full of hard earned dollars!

Live and let live.

And do try and find a clean Amp...

Good luck newbie!

Peace, da I Sadist

Madmadhh
10-15-08, 22:05
So you say I am a F***K wad because I was only trying to relate a bad experance, thus possably saving someone else the mistake of going to a bad AMP?

It is my understanding that is what this board is all about. Helping other mongers find the best game in town.

So instead you come down on me for that, then what is the point in sharing information, so you can dump on the person. LOL

Zedra Nunye
10-16-08, 01:20
MAD,

I think V was talking to/about James.

Keep it coool mate.

But you're on the right track in regards to helping others on here!

Vlad De Sade
10-16-08, 03:25
Mad guy, YOU need to slow down bro and learn how to clearly read everything.

I gave YOU praise in my header I believe I said "Thanks for sharing intel about a lame Amp."

Period!

I have always believed that posting openly about a bad place is fine because we mongers do not want to go there anyways.

In fact, YOU are saving us headaches, gas $$$ and precious time.

It is the REAL KAMP's I choose to keep secret and thus off the public radar.

For one reason LE is on this forum and I will not mine gold for those pricks.

Now, the rest of my short rant, the elitist f**k wad comment specifically, was directed by name towards James how could YOU misconstrue this?

Are YOU sensitive or what?

I expected James to freak out; YOU I expected to be vindicated by my endorsement of your post.

Now, however I could give a s**t about either one of YOU!

Late, VDS

James Compton
10-16-08, 05:09
Yo Madmad, Vlad was talkin to me. Not you. Quit being so emotional dog. You hit one place (supposedly) and start trippin after some constructive criticism.

Vlad, you little legend you. I posted that sh. Just to make your a. Laugh. Just returnin the favor for all the laughs you've given us, whether you meant to or not. I may be a newbie on this post, but I ain't no newbie in the hunt. I already frequent a couple of the nice ones in valley. The fun part is finding new ones to conquer. I'll be continuing to be on the prowl. GRRRRRR!

I seemed to have touched some nerves with my observations. I seemed to come off as being better than everyone else and an elitist. This should be the time I should take back what I said. So here it is: Like it or not gentlemen, dudes do get turned down or are given less than satisfactory service based on appearance, grooming. At the "clean" AMPs I visit in the valley. It is what it is "gentle"men. I've seen a mama san turn away a guy with the "we are massage only" line while I'm waiting to do my business. I think it had to do with the fact that he looked homeless and drunk. I've heard a mama san yelling at the 19 year old latina provider while I'm doin my business after some Grandpa Ed can be heard complaining about the service before leaving. Dude sounded like he was ready to go any day. I've had a provider tell me "(.) can't fu. " complaining about a certain race. I personally did not agree with her but I think she had a thing against one of my band of brothers. Just tellin you all what I'm seein and hearin. Oh, wait, I forgot. I'm just a "newbie" so I must not know what I'm talking about. Let's just leave it at that. You ain't winnin this argument "gentle"men.

On a more serious note. In terms of STDs, there was a scare in Irvine about one of the providers having chlamydia. Any news of valley providers or AMPs employing providers with STDs? If so, post it boys.

Madmadhh
10-16-08, 19:14
To you fellow mongers.

Not to make excuses, but being new to the post one will tend to make mistakes. I do argee in part not to disclose the good hunts, but at the same time one whats to know and compare notes.

It is to bad LE uses the information in the post to close good hunting grounds, in regards to AMP's. Of the many I have visited, They have always practiced safe practices, cleanly and honestly. However opon this one case it was negitive.

As far as personal higine is consurned, you are right. A person should go freashly showered and dressed in well chosen attire. I guees I expect a provider to follow the same rules.

Sorry once again for the mixup.

Courtrat
10-16-08, 21:18
I was once turned down at an AMP because I had a girl with me. Yes, I convinced a friend of mine who happens to be a good looking MILF to try to get into a FS AMP in the Valley. This chick was married and I had done her before she got married and even after. She wanted to see me in action with a K-girl. This was about 4 years ago. The mamasan could not believe her eyes. She turned both of us away. When I went back a couple of hours later she still did not want me to come in. She gave some BS excuse.

James Compton
10-17-08, 00:31
That's some kinky sh**. Should've slipped her a .4

They're cool once they get to know you.

Vlad De Sade
10-17-08, 03:23
Courtrat,

Brother YOU should have gone to Mias, Topanga or Devonshire, 4 or more years ago, they would have loved YOU!

I used to do, and still do from time to time, the same thing.

It is a rush!

However, YOU need to first have an established relationship w/the Mama San before YOU pull a move like that.

Honestly, YOU probably blew her mind for real.

Remember, older K women are of a different culture than ours...

That or she thought YOU guys were part of some sorta weird LE vice sting.

LOL!

Either way try that adventure again in the future my man.

Mad guy, Mr. Compton and everyone else I do agree we should all aspire to treat the girls like they were really our girlfriends.

A mind f**k I know.

Seems lame but when YOU shave, shower, use cologne, dress sharp, use your best game and have enough $$$ w/YOU to do what YOU want to do, in the way in which YOU want to do it, it always seems to be a better experience IMHO!

And sadly some older K women are just racist bi**hes, James and Courtrat, and no amount of excuses will make up for their piss poor attitudes.

Fortunately, I have only run into maybe 2 or 3 older Mama Sans, in a very long time mongering, that fit into this miserable profile.

And yes boys always tip the Mama San, beyond the standard house fee, if YOU want access to all the extras available!

Just remember every man is different, so our chemistry w/the girls, the amount of $$$ we blow, how much we practice our dedication to the hobby, etc all has a direct bearing on how successful our hunting will be in the final analysis.

Peace, da I Sadist

Courtrat
10-17-08, 18:55
Well Vlad, I did take that same MILF to another AMP in West Hollywood. I always took an extra condom with me because no matter what this MILF said about wanting to just watch, she would get hot and wanted to partake. I had the mamasan there so trained that she would have an extra condom ready and brought in with the provider so I could be banging the provider, change condoms and switch to tapping the MIlF's ass.
This was pure heaven for me. Sometimes the provider would try to touch the MILF and get lesbo action going. I felt like I was in a porno.

Wander4fun
10-23-08, 16:31
I like to keep the majority of my trips closer to home, so spend more time in Simi. I have visited L&M, Evergreen, Pacific, WH, and the one by Taco Bell on LA (not sure what it's called). I have had some very good results from L&M and Evergreen, but very little more than a handshake from the last three.

Does anyone happen to have any info on the newer establishments? Pacific on Deodora, 779 LA Ave Massage (offers walk on back with a table shower), or the brand new JJ Spa on 1524 LA? Or, any other place I have missed. I really like a good hard massage (so a few skills are nice), plus a nice finish makes my day worthwhile.

Obviously, I can TOFTT, but if anyone has a more recent info to share, it would probably same me some time and energy?

Dgoesinyours
10-23-08, 19:02
Evergreen is ok, girls are homely.

I have been to all of the ones you listed below.

Make the trip to SFV, it is worth it.

PM me.


I like to keep the majority of my trips closer to home, so spend more time in Simi. I have visited L&M, Evergreen, Pacific, WH, and the one by Taco Bell on LA (not sure what it's called). I have had some very good results from L&M and Evergreen, but very little more than a handshake from the last three.

Does anyone happen to have any info on the newer establishments? Pacific on Deodora, 779 LA Ave Massage (offers walk on back with a table shower), or the brand new JJ Spa on 1524 LA? Or, any other place I have missed. I really like a good hard massage (so a few skills are nice), plus a nice finish makes my day worthwhile.

Obviously, I can TOFTT, but if anyone has a more recent info to share, it would probably same me some time and energy?

Napretep123
10-24-08, 01:18
Gentlemen,

I love all your new posts lately. This thread is becoming a lot more entertaining. Anyway, I finaly had the time to stop at the new place in Northridge (I posted previously a few weeks ago). I was right, it is a FS place, but the experience was not very good. I walked in, the place was small and there were only two ladys. One was an older aisan and the other was a cute but a little older (30s) and chubby latina. She seemed nervous and started with a lame massage. After 5 minutes I said to my self such a shitty place and lame massage lets just get start with the action. So I turned around set on the bed and started to pull her top off. She said so you want more, I said of course. She has great real breasts and puffie nipples (God I love that). After a little negotiation she agreed for FS for .6 (great price I thought). She put on the cover and started with a pretty good cbj. Then she took off the rest of what she was wearing and I realized that she is a little chubbier than what I was expecting, she had different scars, and she was not as cute as I thought. But I'm not pickie so I continued. We started mish and I was amazed. She was so loose I thought I heared an echo. I'm not huge but I'm definetly not small. This was such a turn off I started to loose my stiffness. Never had such an experience. I should of stuck to the cbj. At this point I thought I'll go back to the cbj, she did not want to. I did not want to make a seen, so I just told her I'm not interested and got dressed and walked away. My recommendation is to just not visit or if you do, if you see someone that resemble the description I gave, walk away.

PM me for more information if you would like.

Happy Hunting,

Nap