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[ThePussyHunter]

Now that she is no longer working, how does she support herself and help family? Are you now a sugar daddy.She just started working a few months ago, she would only be on the track like three times a week, she did it to make money for someone in her family, her then BF suggested it to her to help her make fast money, later he became more like a pimp from what she tells me, she was looking for a way out of that life, after she found me I guess she decided to make a split from that life. She now has a regular job, and no, I'm not her sugar daddy, I'm not wealthy LOL. Its like a 50\50 relationship, we both look out for one another.

[Tjinla2001]

She just started working a few months ago, she would only be on the track like three times a week, she did it to make money for someone in her family, her then BF suggested it to her to help her make fast money, later he became more like a pimp from what she tells me, she was looking for a way out of that life, after she found me I guess she decided to make a split from that life. She now has a regular job, and no, I'm not her sugar daddy, I'm not wealthy LOL. Its like a 50\50 relationship, we both look out for one another.It's nice to know that if something goes wrong she can quickly get into flipping tricks all day long and make that money right up.

[Black Ice 21]

It sounds like you really care about her, nothing wrong with that. However, to quote the great Wu Tang Clan "Protect Ya Neck" son. I have a buddy who's brother met a girl who was a SW with a white powder problem in rehab while he was working there as a counselor. When I first me her, I thought, bad move. To my surprise, they got married! To my even greater surprise, they now have two kids and have been married now for 18 years. I see them from time to time and they both seem very happy. My buddy tells me there have been no issues regarding her former lifestyle or drug use. So, it can be done. Do your thing man.

Now, I've read the responses to your post and can say, some are accurate with regard as to how this situation ends a majority of the time. However, some have haterade sprinkled all over then. Like damn, is your life so fucked up that you can't give someone a little encouragement instead of trying to shit on his happiness? You only live once, enjoy what and who makes you happy. The funny thing is I know "regular girls" that are bigger hoes than many SW. Shit, chicks talked about in the non-pro section here are probably somebody's girlfriend.

Anyway, PH ride this shit till the wheels fall off.

[Poppa Chubby]

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[Raider1206]

I haven't been on here that much because I've fallen in Love with a SW.

A few months ago I was driving down a track and saw this pretty SW walking, I didn't pick her up because I was on my way to pay some bills, I saw her once again a few days later, I was going to pick her up, I circled the block and she was gone, two days later I saw her again and finally got the chance to pick her up, I asked her how much for sex, she said $100. I said why not since I've been fiending for her for a while, on the way to the motel we had a really nice conversation, we both realized that we had many things in common, this pretty SW was very sweet and was working the streets to help her family.

We got to the motel, went in and since I was so attracted to her I just had to make a move to kiss her on her lips, she let me, and before I knew it, we were passionately french kissing each other as if she was my high school sweet heart. I was so into this experience that we went at it for about 3 hrs. During sex she kept telling me how she has never had a guy make love to her the way I did. After the sex, we kissed romantically, I licked her neck, her ear and gave her a massage, we talked about life and all kinds of stuff.

I told her that I wanted to see her again, she said "of course" since no man had ever banged her like I did in her life. But I stated that since I was the best lover she's ever had I wasn't going to pay her for sex, she was cool with it. We exchanged numbers, she gave me her personal number, we put our clothes back on, talked some more.

I called her the next day, we talked until her cell ran out of battery, she called me when it was charged and scheduled a booty call. I went over to her home, at first I was cautious about going inside, but brushed it aside, I went in, looked around to see if everything was ok, it was, and she was waiting for me in her bedroom on her bed, we had great sex for about 5 hrs, I went home afterwards, called her the next day and asked her if she would want to go on an actual date with me, she said yes.

As time went on I began to have feelings for her, she did for me also. We have so much in common, we get along great. I've met her family, she's met mine, we are now living together and are very happy with one another.

I've had other SW's that I've become personal lovers to in the past, I even have some that became my friends, I've been a monger for a little over a decade and have seen and experienced many things but I never thought I would actually fall in love and move in with a SW but this one is different, she is like my soul mate, I know some of you may laugh at me or think I'm crazy but this woman is unlike orhers I've come across in my life. I've actually previously been in a relationship with a SW in 2010, I went from being her client, to personal lover, to dating and being in a relationship with her, we broke up because she still wanted to work while being my GF.

I don't think I'll ever stop being a monger though, I'm addicted to it, I guess this former SW is also keeping my urges to monger low since we do a lot of role playing where I play a john and she's the nympho SW hahahahaha. I also think that her being a former SW has also helped since deep down in my head I still feel she is a SW except I bang her for free LOL.

During the days when my mongering was at its highest, I would come across SW's that would tell me how many of their SW friends would run off with their clients and get into real relationships with them.

Don't get me wrong guys, some of these SW's are con artists and will try to play us, get close, take all our money and run back to their pimps or where ever the fuck they came from so be careful. I got lucky with this one.

Stay safe everyone.Congrats bro enjoy it for however long it last. Wishing you the best.

[Sucker Bill]

I haven't been on here that much because I've fallen in Love with a SW.

Don't get me wrong guys, some of these SW's are con artists and will try to play us, get close, take all our money and run back to their pimps or where ever the fuck they came from so be careful. I got lucky with this one.

Stay safe everyone.Good for you.

As far as prostitutes go, I think a lot of the guys on this site consider all or at least most women some form of prostitutes. Hell, even guys are prostitutes. If you're doing a shit job that you are overqualified for and just doing it for the money even though you fucking hate every second of it, aren't you a prostitute? Just because you don't suck a dick, you're still a prostitute. So many women will marry anyone and fuck a little just to have a house and some financial security. I personally respect a woman who will go out and hustle up some money because her family needs some cash a lot more than I respect someone sitting on her ass collecting welfare.

Best to you. I hope it works out. You're not the only one to scoop a good one off the street. Maybe the two I did that with weren't the best choices. Or, more likely, I just suck at relationships and find it easier to pay a girl when I need some sex and then go home to my own life.

[Hornyag]

Good for you PussyHunter!

I have tried without much luck to have relationships with providers but mostly it has been my fault, I can't seem to be satisfied with the same pussy for too long.

I wish you all the best and hope it works out for you.

[RiqShaw]

Good for you.

As far as prostitutes go, I think a lot of the guys on this site consider all or at least most women some form of prostitutes. Hell, even guys are prostitutes. If you're doing a shit job that you are overqualified for and just doing it for the money even though you fucking hate every second of it, aren't you a prostitute? Just because you don't suck a dick, you're still a prostitute. So many women will marry anyone and fuck a little just to have a house and some financial security. I personally respect a woman who will go out and hustle up some money because her family needs some cash a lot more than I respect someone sitting on her ass collecting welfare.

Best to you. I hope it works out. You're not the only one to scoop a good one off the street. Maybe the two I did that with weren't the best choices. Or, more likely, I just suck at relationships and find it easier to pay a girl when I need some sex and then go home to my own life.Don't you know that they legalized prostitution? Yeah, it's called marriage.

RS.

[Pinche Gringo]

I posted this in the OC forum but realized I probably should have posted here.

I hate using my real I'd when I go to no-tels. Does anyone know where I can get a quality second one with my "play around" name?

PM me please.

[Ivonnahumpalot]

Don't you know that they legalized prostitution? Yeah, it's called marriage.

RS.I thought it was Senior Prom.

[Poon Hound]

I posted this in the OC forum but realized I probably should have posted here.

I hate using my real I'd when I go to no-tels. Does anyone know where I can get a quality second one with my "play around" name?

PM me please.Last week went to a rm on fig. They used a scanner (like the bars) on my dl. Don't think you can get by with a play one. Also getting caught with one prob be pretty bad.

[Pinche Gringo]

My ID has NEVER been scanned at a no-tel. Strip clubs are another story. I would only use it at no-tels. Hell, taking a prostitute to a no-tel is illegal. It is my problem if I get caught. I am a big boy.


Last week went to a rm on fig. They used a scanner (like the bars) on my dl. Don't think you can get by with a play one. Also getting caught with one prob be pretty bad.

[Marlowe]

I am not sure which of these it was. What I am sure of is that I was laying on the bed naked in the Notel when she (still dressed) asked me for the condom and the $. When I gave it to her she pushed me down on the bed and whipped out a badge (which was definitely real) and identified herself as UCLE.

You are immediately wondering why I would be stupid enough to follow her to her room, and I can tell you that isn't how it went down. What actually happened, if in fact she was truly UCLE changes the game for all of us. Let me start at the beginning.

I was on my way home, went through the old HG on Fig, saw nothing of interest, a couple of BSW that looked way too young, so I turned on Florence to head over to Western. I had driven about a block, in the middle lane when this girl in a white Toyota 4 Runner pulls along side and asks me how I am. She yells pull over and let's talk, so I pull to the curb, but she goes further up the block and pulls into a carwash stall, so I pull along side. She gets out of the 4 Runner and jumps into my passenger seat, exposes one of her breasts (nice see cups) to give me a good look. Then she asks me if I want to have some fun for $50. I ask where and she has me drive to a Notel on Hoover. I get the room ($35) and we go in. I go take a piss and she says I should undress, so I do. This is where we get to what I described at the start. Obviously once I see the badge, I am worried about jail, even though I know this is a best a misdemeanor and I would probably get OR'd, but she has threatened that they will tow and impound my vehicle, and I am some 40 miles from home. She empties my pants pockets, takes the cash in my wallet, calls for back up and sends my DL# to them to check to see if I have any warrants (I don't). Just then I get a text from some girl, and she confiscates my cell phone and claims that this girl's text is further evidence that I frequently pick up SW and she will have to call her partner to take me in. At this point she throws me my t-shirt and briefs, so I can cover myself.

After about five minutes, she says let me turn off my body mic. Then she says that she can give me a $1000 ticket and I won't go to jail or have my vehicle impounded. This is a lot of money, I had about $400 with me, but I am $600 short. She says we will get into her UC vehicle, now being driven by another female LE (supposedly). She has my wallet, keys and cell phone, so who am I to argue. First we go to a service station with an ATM, but it has a $200 limit. Next we go to the drive thru ATM at Chase and she realizes that what I told her about a $500 daily limit on ATM withdrawals is true, since I can only get $300 more which leaves me $100 short. Here is where it gets weird and I get suspicious. She has her partner drive me to the Sheikkh store on Imperial and Hoover where they go on a $470 shopping spree at my expense. This takes the better part of two hours, whereupon they finally return me to my vehicle and speed off, with a final warning never to pick up SW.

Even if they are just ROB, everyone needs to beware of two Black girls, one fairly cute white top, black bra, tight fitting pants, and her "partner" much less attractive, driving a white Toyota 4 Runner. If they really were UCLE, then the limits of what decoys can and will do have changed drastically, and most of our rules in this forum will not keep you even remotely safe.

I would say I was entrapped, because she drove along side me on the street, Florence Avenue, not Figueroa, LBB, or Western and aksed me to pull over to talk to her, whereupon she exposed her breast, and asked me to date her, even quoting a price.

I would welcome anyone else's take on this. I was out about $1400 but at least I got to go home in my car, with no paper record being made.

[Cres Prophet2]

I am not sure which of these it was. What I am sure of is that I was laying on the bed naked in the Notel when she (still dressed) asked me for the condom and the $. When I gave it to her she pushed me down on the bed and whipped out a badge (which was definitely real) and identified herself as UCLE.If this was posted by someone else I would be calling bullshit.

I'm guessing rogue cop that needs cash.

[Marlowe]

If this was posted by someone else I would be calling bullshit.

I'm guessing rogue cop that needs cash.I was wondering about that. Maybe she was just a Sheriff's reserve member. I don't know if they are well paid. Maybe she was just looking for some extra Christmas cash and saw an opportunity. All I know is that I was naked and she had a badge, so I was just worried about my life being ruined. The money was a little more than 1/3 a month's pay. I can make that back because I still have a job, and will still have a pension. If I were arrested formally, all bets are off on that.

It happened exactly as I described, I don't have any reason to make it up. Everyone should be on the lookout for two Black chicks ina white Toyota 4 Runner and give them a wide berth.

[HollywoodGuy]

[QUOTE=Marlowe;2303549
I would welcome anyone else's take on this. I was out about $1400 but at least I got to go home in my car, with no paper record being made.[/QUOTE]

There are LEO that steal under the cover of authority.

Then there are professional con artists. I think you just met two of them.

[Christophe1]

I was wondering about that. Maybe she was just a Sheriff's reserve member. I don't know if they are well paid. Maybe she was just looking for some extra Christmas cash and saw an opportunity. All I know is that I was naked and she had a badge, so I was just worried about my life being ruined. The money was a little more than 1/3 a month's pay. I can make that back because I still have a job, and will still have a pension. If I were arrested formally, all bets are off on that.

It happened exactly as I described, I don't have any reason to make it up. Everyone should be on the lookout for two Black chicks ina white Toyota 4 Runner and give them a wide berth.A third possibility is that they are parking enforcement, aka meter maids. If memory serves me right, those people have official metal badges and are ruthless as hell. Overtime is dependent on writing tickets and some make triple digit incomes from stealing our money.

I know there is corruption in LA LEO, but it's hard to think that cops would be that dumb. I mean, who really doesn't know ATMs have limits? LEO = YES, Meter Maid = NO.

PS. That sucks Marlowe. You were breaking a few monger rules. Don't have so much cash on hand. Sex for money is illegal. Don't break the law.

[Gpc1085]

Personally it sounds like a well executed scam / hustle to me. Marlowe. Did you not question the chick? I know I would of! LOL. IDK. Maybe ask for a badge #? It goes against all rules and probably would be thrown out in court (I am not no lawyer though) and does sound like entrapment or a really dedicated UC to show you her che che's. Hmm. That would have cleared all these "what if" questions up surely though. Should of just had them arrest you. Or would that of mean their Pimp shows up? Hmm. Idk man. 2 black fm ucr officers? I mean not impossible. But when they do these stings 99.9% of the time isn't there a male or 2 male officers standing by just in case "ish goes down" ie: a struggle and or fight! I mean just a little while ago there was that botched sting off fig that ended up all over the news and a chase that followed and the UC I believed was harmed. I don't know I'm calling BS and thinking someone impersonated and that is a serious offense if so. Any more details you may have left out? Reads like a good novel nonetheless. Sucks being -$1400 though. Wow.

[ChrisPoontang]

I am not sure which of these it was. What I am sure of is that I was laying on the bed naked in the Notel when she (still dressed) asked me for the condom and the $. When I gave it to her she pushed me down on the bed and whipped out a badge (which was definitely real) and identified herself as UCLE.

I would welcome anyone else's take on this. I was out about $1400 but at least I got to go home in my car, with no paper record being made.Marlowe,

Sorry to hear this happened to you but you got robbed. There is no question about it:

1 - This is Los Angeles. Cars that pull up along side you want to do something bad. When it happens to me a I shrug my shoulders and say "no hablo ingles".

2 - Pulling into a location where someone can jump into your car. Not good. You never know who is hiding in the back seat.

3 - Real undercover cops will never get into a mongers car. Its too dangerous. An undercover cop posing as a hooker was robbed and had her gun taken in South LA just a few weeks ago!!

4 - LAPD badges can be purchased on Ebay for around $8. A little piece of shiny metal means nothing to me.

5 - Undercovers don't need to call for backup. They are being monitored at all times.

6 - Taking your cash? That should have been a flashing red flag to you that you were being robbed.

7 - Turn of the body mic? For what? To save the batteries? No, its called a "confidence move". Its her attempt to reinforce to you that she a make believe cop.

8 - $1000 ticket? 2 things. 1 - This is not Mexico. You don't pay tickets on the spot. 2 - Tickets don't have prices on them. You find at the cost when you goto court.

9 - Getting into the supposed UC car did you see police radios or just the sticker from the rental car saying not to smoke? Communication is super important to cops. They use super heavy duty radios (not ones you can get at Big 5 Sports). No commo no cops.

10. Driven around to get cash from ATMs? In my native Colombia its called "paseo millionario" or the millionaire ride.

11. A two hour shopping spree? Please, please please tell me you made that up or are joking!! I'm having trouble computing that. . .

[FunTrust]

I was wondering about that. Maybe she was just a Sheriff's reserve member. I don't know if they are well paid. Maybe she was just looking for some extra Christmas cash and saw an opportunity. All I know is that I was naked and she had a badge, so I was just worried about my life being ruined. The money was a little more than 1/3 a month's pay. I can make that back because I still have a job, and will still have a pension. If I were arrested formally, all bets are off on that.

It happened exactly as I described, I don't have any reason to make it up. Everyone should be on the lookout for two Black chicks ina white Toyota 4 Runner and give them a wide berth.I go with the con artist, I don't think a real LEO would spend that much time, and in a store they will be seen and photographed surveillance in you change your mind. If by chance you had their license number, I would call in in to LEO and thye would jump on it for impersonating a cop.

However, I might have done the same thing in your position, so I home I won't get in that position.

I think in LB, on LBB someone was working it the same way. As an old white guy, a hot black chick in a car rolled her window down and asked if I wanted a date, I said no and reported it here (and the response back they were working a scam.

Alos, anything in the world can be faked, so why not a fake badge.

[Poon Hound]

My ID has NEVER been scanned at a no-tel. Strip clubs are another story. I would only use it at no-tels. Hell, taking a prostitute to a no-tel is illegal. It is my problem if I get caught. I am a big boy.Just letting you know dude. They in fact did scan my I'd (so it does happen.) I had the same thought to get one (decided not to.) Yes, dating ****** is illegal. Fake ids are federal felonies!

[Poon Hound]

Hey, marlow was one of the BSW lite skin / cute? Was flagged by a suv a while back. Don't remember the model tho.

[Marlowe]

Hey, marlow was one of the BSW lite skin / cute? Was flagged by a suv a while back. Don't remember the model tho.1st of all it was a Rav4, not a 4 Runner, the Rav4 is smaller, but definitely white. The one that made the "bust" in the room was not really lite skinned, more medium complected. Actually she resembled Tye, that crazy BSW that used to cruise LBB trying to get people to pull over and date her, the one that stole BC's cameras, but she would have to be older than this chick was.

I guess I would add the following addendums to try to prevent such a situation happening to any of you: #1-don't ever disrobe until the girl takes her clothes off-we all have probably done this several times, but no more. #2-$50 is a lowball offer, be suspicious of any girl who starts at that price, no matter where you are discussing it.

I am pretty sure it was a scam, but then there was that badge! Also the way she was speaking at first was very believable, as we were driving around I became more and more suspicious, especially because of her skanky friend's driving. However, since they had my keys, phone and wallet, there was nothing I could do but play along and hope for the best.

Some of us might have just slapped her phone out of her hand, told her hell no, beat it, put on our clothes and left, but that only works if she didn't have back up. When the black and whites break down the door and cuff you, you would have regretted it. Anyway, that is not how I roll.

[Marlowe]

I go with the con artist, I don't think a real LEO would spend that much time, and in a store they will be seen and photographed surveillance in you change your mind. If by chance you had their license number, I would call in in to LEO and thye would jump on it for impersonating a cop.

However, I might have done the same thing in your position, so I home I won't get in that position.

I think in LB, on LBB someone was working it the same way. As an old white guy, a hot black chick in a car rolled her window down and asked if I wanted a date, I said no and reported it here (and the response back they were working a scam.

Alos, anything in the world can be faked, so why not a fake badge.I didn't get the license # unfortunately and they drove off in a rush after tossing me my belongings so I didn't really have a chance to. I will never accept any type of solicitation from any girl, no matter how hot, it isn't worth the risk. However, if what she told me is true, that you can pick up a UCLE decoy on the street and take them to a Notel, and experience the same scenario, then I will confine myself to dating only girls that I know.

My questions are, she drove up and asked me to pull over and talk to her, she exposed herself to me in my vehicle and solicited the act and even quoted the price, then rode in my vehicle three blocks to the notel. Isn't this entrapment? Are there no longer any limits on the actions of UCLE decoys?

[Marlowe]

Marlowe,

Sorry to hear this happened to you but you got robbed. There is no question about it:

1 - This is Los Angeles. Cars that pull up along side you want to do something bad. When it happens to me a I shrug my shoulders and say "no hablo ingles".

2 - Pulling into a location where someone can jump into your car. Not good. You never know who is hiding in the back seat.

3 - Real undercover cops will never get into a mongers car. Its too dangerous. An undercover cop posing as a hooker was robbed and had her gun taken in South LA just a few weeks ago!!

4 - LAPD badges can be purchased on Ebay for around $8. A little piece of shiny metal means nothing to me.

5 - Undercovers don't need to call for backup. They are being monitored at all times.

6 - Taking your cash? That should have been a flashing red flag to you that you were being robbed.

7 - Turn of the body mic? For what? To save the batteries? No, its called a "confidence move". Its her attempt to reinforce to you that she a make believe cop.

8 - $1000 ticket? 2 things. 1 - This is not Mexico. You don't pay tickets on the spot. 2 - Tickets don't have prices on them. You find at the cost when you goto court.

9 - Getting into the supposed UC car did you see police radios or just the sticker from the rental car saying not to smoke? Communication is super important to cops. They use super heavy duty radios (not ones you can get at Big 5 Sports). No commo no cops.

10. Driven around to get cash from ATMs? In my native Colombia its called "paseo millionario" or the millionaire ride.

11. A two hour shopping spree? Please, please please tell me you made that up or are joking!! I'm having trouble computing that. . .I am not making any of this up. It sure seemed like we were in there that long, it may have been less than an hour, but they kept asking for different items, and adding to them. I wasn't even going to report about it, I was so embarrassed, but then I remembered how I have been helped by others posting their misfortunes, so I felt I owed it all of you to put out the word so nobody else falls for this. I wonder what would have happened if I had had less that $100 in my wallet, if the extra cash created the opportunity. What would you have done once she had your wallet, keys and phone?

[Marlowe]

Personally it sounds like a well executed scam / hustle to me. Marlowe. Did you not question the chick? I know I would of! LOL. IDK. Maybe ask for a badge #? It goes against all rules and probably would be thrown out in court (I am not no lawyer though) and does sound like entrapment or a really dedicated UC to show you her che che's. Hmm. That would have cleared all these "what if" questions up surely though. Should of just had them arrest you. Or would that of mean their Pimp shows up? Hmm. Idk man. 2 black fm ucr officers? I mean not impossible. But when they do these stings 99.9% of the time isn't there a male or 2 male officers standing by just in case "ish goes down" ie: a struggle and or fight! I mean just a little while ago there was that botched sting off fig that ended up all over the news and a chase that followed and the UC I believed was harmed. I don't know I'm calling BS and thinking someone impersonated and that is a serious offense if so. Any more details you may have left out? Reads like a good novel nonetheless. Sucks being -$1400 though. Wow.The point is that I couldn't afford to challenge her. I had to be at work today, the last day before a three week break, and if I had been arrested, that would have been a problem. I am sure it was a scam now, but at the time I had no choice but to play along. I am home, safe, and I have my car. Wasn't willing to risk any of that by being difficult.

[Marlowe]

A third possibility is that they are parking enforcement, aka meter maids. If memory serves me right, those people have official metal badges and are ruthless as hell. Overtime is dependent on writing tickets and some make triple digit incomes from stealing our money.

I know there is corruption in LA LEO, but it's hard to think that cops would be that dumb. I mean, who really doesn't know ATMs have limits? LEO = YES, Meter Maid = NO.

PS. That sucks Marlowe. You were breaking a few monger rules. Don't have so much cash on hand. Sex for money is illegal. Don't break the law.Agreed. The reason that I had that much money is that a friend had paid me back what he owed me, and I was too lazy to find an ATM and deposit it. I wasn't trying to find a date, I was just on my way home, as unbelievable as that might seem, but it had been a hard day at work, and I wasn't thinking too clearly when the opportunity presented itself. We learn from our experiences, both good and bad, and I certainly learned from this one. Had I seen anything in the HG that I liked, I would have stopped and put the extra cash in the trunk in my briefcase before approaching her, I'm not a novice, it was just a crime of opportunity and I got caught slipping.

[Cres Prophet2]

I am home, safe, and I have my car. Wasn't willing to risk any of that by being difficult.In the end, that may have been cheaper. I never trip about losing some cash in a screwed up situation. The potential downside to many confrontations makes the money lost trivial by comparison.

[Marlowe]

In the end, that may have been cheaper. I never trip about losing some cash in a screwed up situation. The potential downside to many confrontations makes the money lost trivial by comparison.That says it all. We can always make more money.

[Gpc1085]

The point is that I couldn't afford to challenge her. I had to be at work today, the last day before a three week break, and if I had been arrested, that would have been a problem. I am sure it was a scam now, but at the time I had no choice but to play along. I am home, safe, and I have my car. Wasn't willing to risk any of that by being difficult.I see. Thanks for sharing! There's a lot of possibilities at play here. Could of been UC rogue / shady LE that went against standard practices? You never know these days. But really really really unlikely. 0001% chance if you ask me. I see you're a senor member so I don't discount this story is real one bit & that this happened to you and I do feel for you that that in fact happened. And yes some are saying it's better to just cut losses and fork the $ over especially since like you said you had work next day. The problem is (I don't post much on here used to read moresoRB but I'm sure you guys had a safety & rules thingy on here at some point as well) You did (even as a senior member) go against a couple golden rules though my brother which done different I don't know if it puts you in the same situation regardless if these 2 blk UC's were legit or really really good scam artists and essentially "scum". (We could debate whether they were real or not all day here).

1- You said they had a badge but did they have handcuffs and ever threaten or say they would cuff you?

2- A Badge # is key as I said before. I know in the moment you didn't think of it.

So one got in your car at carwash and the other followed in their own car?. Is this correct? I mean LE has been bending a lot of rules if you haven't watched the news lately but for the life of me I can't see them being LE. Risking their jobs for $1,400? Last I checked they get paid pretty well. And the fact that they went shopping for 2 hours as you stated with the cash while having you there? (were you in car? Or store with them? This makes 0 sense to me here hmm.) would just be dumb because like someone else stated they would have been on surveillance.

Curious to know what you're going to do, if anything, now Marelowe? Keep us updated and thanks for sharing bro. We need to share so these 2 can be exposed. That is what msg boards like this are essentially for in the first place! So thanks again for sharing your story and stay up bro!

[Ivonnahumpalot]

That says it all. We can always make more money.Marlowe that sucks. It's a scam not UCLE in my opinion. I've had the girls pull along side and try to offer it up I just look at them like I'm completely offended and roll up the windows, especially after reading about other victims here. This is an elaborate scam that you had done on you. They know you're unlikely to call the Po po because you don't want your name on it. I think you did the right thing forking over your pocket money.

[Marlowe]

Marlowe that sucks. It's a scam not UCLE in my opinion. I've had the girls pull along side and try to offer it up I just look at them like I'm completely offended and roll up the windows, especially after reading about other victims here. This is an elaborate scam that you had done on you. They know you're unlikely to call the Po po because you don't want your name on it. I think you did the right thing forking over your pocket money.Thanks, and if this ***** rolls up on anyone else, don't fall for it, but report, report, report. The more that we report on her, the faster she will have to give this scam up. I hope you are all correct, and that UCLE decoys can't openly entrap us.

[The Tall Man]

Thanks, and if this ***** rolls up on anyone else, don't fall for it, but report, report, report. The more that we report on her, the faster she will have to give this scam up. I hope you are all correct, and that UCLE decoys can't openly entrap us.Marlowe, thanks for sharing this, we can all learn from this, a good reminder for me to never let my guard down when I'm on the hunt, no matter what.

Was there ever a gun shown?

The Tall Man.

[Tipisil]

Thanks, and if this ***** rolls up on anyone else, don't fall for it, but report, report, report. The more that we report on her, the faster she will have to give this scam up. I hope you are all correct, and that UCLE decoys can't openly entrap us.Thanks for the heads up. Hope that never happens to you again. I am a big fan of your reports.

[Marlowe]

Marlowe, thanks for sharing this, we can all learn from this, a good reminder for me to never let my guard down when I'm on the hunt, no matter what.

Was there ever a gun shown?

The Tall Man.No guns were shown, just the badge. After that she had all of my things, car keys, wallet and phone, so I was pretty much at their mercy. I didn't think that the UC decoys carried guns anyway. She couldn't have hidden one given the tight clothing she was wearing. I am pretty sure this was a scam, but I couldn't afford to take the risk of challenging them. Money can be replaced.

[Marlowe]

What I am waiting for is for these two con artists to pull this scam on another monger and to see if: 1) they report about it, and 2) how they react to it given that they have info that it is probably a scam. If I had known about this, most likely I would have just driven off without stopping to even talk to her, let alone let her get into my car to discuss business. That was my 1st inclination anyway, but it had been a hard day at work, and the little head got the better of me.

On another note, what a difference a day makes. Yesterday was my last day working, I retired after 37 years. It means that now if I did get arrested, I wouldn't have to worry about losing my license, because I no longer need it, so I might have been more likely to brazen it out with these bitches, actually only the one, because I would never have gotten into their vehicle, if it was a scam I would have retrieved my belongings got dressed and left, and if it was a legit bust I would have left in cuffs in the back of a squad car. I don't know if I would have challenged her but I like to think that I would have.

Whatever the case, will the next victim or intended victim be brave enough to report about it. This helps us all.

[ChrisPoontang]

What I am waiting for is for these two con artists to pull this scam on another monger and to see if: 1) they report about it, and 2) how they react to it given that they have info that it is probably a scam. If I had known about this, most likely I would have just driven off without stopping to even talk to her, let alone let her get into my car to discuss business. That was my 1st inclination anyway, but it had been a hard day at work, and the little head got the better of me.

On another note, what a difference a day makes. Yesterday was my last day working, I retired after 37 years. It means that now if I did get arrested, I wouldn't have to worry about losing my license, because I no longer need it, so I might have been more likely to brazen it out with these bitches, actually only the one, because I would never have gotten into their vehicle, if it was a scam I would have retrieved my belongings got dressed and left, and if it was a legit bust I would have left in cuffs in the back of a squad car. I don't know if I would have challenged her but I like to think that I would have.

Whatever the case, will the next victim or intended victim be brave enough to report about it. This helps us all.All information is helpful. Hopefully you don't think I was ragging on you as that was not my intention. I've made plenty of mistakes mongering myself.

Glad to hear that you can monger in peace now. Did you treat yourself to some of LA tastiest SWs last night?

After 37 years I would have tried my best to overdose on hookers.

[Trunk Monkey]

I am sure they didn't spot you on Florence. They probably tracked you down fig. An old white guy rubernecking for pussy. They spotted a target. That target was you.

Bummer. 1400 scratch buys a lot of street pussy. Glad you are ok.

[Marlowe]

All information is helpful. Hopefully you don't think I was ragging on you as that was not my intention. I've made plenty of mistakes mongering myself.

Glad to hear that you can monger in peace now. Did you treat yourself to some of LA tastiest SWs last night?

After 37 years I would have tried my best to overdose on hookers.No. I am still a little gun shy, not to mention what the loss put a dent in my budget for such things. And there wasn't anything worth loking at on SB last night, lately there rarely is.

[ChrisPoontang]

No. I am still a little gun shy, not to mention what the loss put a dent in my budget for such things. And there wasn't anything worth loking at on SB last night, lately there rarely is.The best way to get over being gun shy is to pull your weapon out of its holster and let off a few rounds.

I know I always feel better after a good discharge (internal or other wise).

My current favorite is a girl named Pleasure. She Hawaiian / Asian is usually on Western from 1 am to 4 am and then Sepulveda from 4 am to 6:30 am.

You should look her up.

[ElliottRich]

www.usasexguide.info amazing. Thank you and success in your work!

[Azesus]

Remember street mongering we're dealing with the lower end of society after about one year ago an angry dude suddenly ambushed me when I was about get into a motel saying that's her underage sister immediately demanded all my material belonging as compensation. Well I am not stupid if you want to rob me just say so don't lie, anyways that's why I stick to sex parlor now no need worry about safety.

[Christophe1]

Retirement = Extreme boredom. Anyone who is soon retiring should look at this period as a new opportunity to expand into something new.

Paying for friends. Sometimes I'm too busy or too lazy to try something other than defaulting to the easiest thing. Then again, why not lay your money down on something you believe in?

Nothing beats being with people that get you, and accept you for who you are. To me, we're all a bunch of bros by the camp fire spending the things that matter; time, life experience, and comradery. Viva "Amor Vincit Omnia" muchachos.

Be safe. Be in love. Live like you're dying.

[HollywoodGuy]

No. I am still a little gun shy, not to mention what the loss put a dent in my budget for such things. And there wasn't anything worth loking at on SB last night, lately there rarely is.After getting in trouble a few years ago due to my association with a particular girl I was convinced every other girl was some UC tryin to get me. I broke numerous dates with girls over it. And it was all in my head. I still keep my guard up but not to the point of being overly paranoid. You"ll get over it soon enough.

[Johng 021]

You never pull over or acknowledge a SW trying to get your attention or waving you down while you are driving.

Never.

The sheikh shopping spree is pretty hilarious.

Learn from your mistakes and don't let it happen again.

Also.

Don't ever take off your clothes first and just jump on the bed waiting and lying completely nude.

While girl does nothing.

(That even sounds stupid).

That's for anyone out looking for SW.

[Marlowe]

You never pull over or acknowledge a SW trying to get your attention or waving you down while you are driving.

Never.

The sheikh shopping spree is pretty hilarious.

Learn from your mistakes and don't let it happen again.

Also.

Don't ever take off your clothes first and just jump on the bed waiting and lying completely nude.

While girl does nothing.

(That even sounds stupid).

That's for anyone out looking for SW.I wouldn't be so critical if I were you. Lots of us have made mistakes and been scammed or robbed, it takes a man to report about it and try to spare others from having the same experience. I guess you have never had a SW who likes to suck your dick while clothed, then strips for F / S when she realizes you aren't going to cum from her giving you head.

[Johng 021]

I was more pointing out what others shouldn't do.

In no way did I mention others nor their mistakes.

[Marlowe]

I was more pointing out what others shouldn't do.

In no way did I mention others nor their mistakes.But stay civil. Calling someone's actions stupid is stepping over the line IMHO.

[Wicked1]

Retirement = Extreme boredom. Anyone who is soon retiring should look at this period as a new opportunity to expand into something new.

Paying for friends. Sometimes I'm too busy or too lazy to try something other than defaulting to the easiest thing. Then again, why not lay your money down on something you believe in?

Nothing beats being with people that get you, and accept you for who you are. To me, we're all a bunch of bros by the camp fire spending the things that matter; time, life experience, and comradery. Viva "Amor Vincit Omnia" muchachos.

Be safe. Be in love. Live like you're dying.Perspective, fellas. We're all boys here.

[Poppa Chubby]

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[Marlowe]

He said it sounds stupid, which it really does. You're 60 yrs old, you live in the valley. You drive thru the hood daily.

But now its over. $1,400 scratch is friggin hilarious!! Boy, what were you thinking during the 2 hour shopping spree?

Man, I would kill to see a video of the whole thing.Wouldn't we all. If there were a video, there would be a chance of identifying this thieving ho and putting a stop to this particular scam of hers.

[Member #5725]

I'm sure the drive thru ATM got a shot of them.

[Marlowe]

As did the store shopping spree video. Marlowe doesn't have the balls to go to the cops & explain how he got robbed of 1400.

And of course he didn't get the license number of the Rav4.Sure and you would have (like hell you would have). You are forgetting about Misfit and his troubles with the Ontario Oinkers just for posting pics of SW in this forum. The police are not our friends, and that s especially true during the current climate of combating Human Trafficking by focusing on the consumer (us). I might as well walk into 77th street station, hold out my hands to be cuffed, and get ready to spend $20,000 plus defending myself against a solicitation charge!

I don't think anyone in this forum is going to take a situation like this to the cops. Stop talking through your ass and face the reality of the situation.

[HollywoodGuy]

Sure and you would have (like hell you would have). You are forgetting about Misfit and his troubles with the Ontario Oinkers just for posting pics of SW in this forum. The police are not our friends, and that s especially true during the current climate of combating Human Trafficking by focusing on the consumer (us). I might as well walk into 77th street station, hold out my hands to be cuffed, and get ready to spend $20,000 plus defending myself against a solicitation charge!

I don't think anyone in this forum is going to take a situation like this to the cops. Stop talking through your ass and face the reality of the situation.I posted somewhere on this site about a guy that got robbed of 15 k by a crazy girl (short blond in hollywood). So one tenth of that? All knowledge comes with a price.

[Dildo Baggens]

Hey Pappa, give it a rest. He was doing something in the eyes of LE that is an illegal act, not to mention the myriad of other thoughts that might have been going through his head at the time, I don't know, like maybe getting getting killed. So back off! I appreciate he's still alive to tell us the tale, I'm sure he's learned from the experience. It's a teachable moment for all.

Baggens.


As did the store shopping spree video. Marlowe doesn't have the balls to go to the cops & explain how he got robbed of 1400.

And of course he didn't get the license number of the Rav4.

[Marlowe]

Hey Pappa, give it a rest. He was doing something in the eyes of LE that is an illegal act, not to mention the myriad of other thoughts that might have been going through his head at the time, I don't know, like maybe getting getting killed. So back off! I appreciate he's still alive to tell us the tale, I'm sure he's learned from the experience. It's a teachable moment for all.

Baggens.Thanks for the support. It isn't always a lack of balls that prevents one of us from committing some rash act. All I was hoping for was to get back into my car and get the hell out of there. MIssion accomplished.

[Tipisil]

Sure and you would have (like hell you would have). You are forgetting about Misfit and his troubles with the Ontario Oinkers just for posting pics of SW in this forum. The police are not our friends, and that s especially true during the current climate of combating Human Trafficking by focusing on the consumer (us). I might as well walk into 77th street station, hold out my hands to be cuffed, and get ready to spend $20,000 plus defending myself against a solicitation charge!

I don't think anyone in this forum is going to take a situation like this to the cops. Stop talking through your ass and face the reality of the situation.I appreciate your posts since they are informative and can help others avoid situations.

[Marlowe]

I appreciate your posts since they are informative and can help others avoid situations.Thanks. I have tried to keep them to the point, if not always short. I hope that at least nobody else is going to fall for a BSW in a white Rav4 pulling up along side them while they are driving and asking them to pull over to discuss a date. I am hoping that one of the more aggressive members of this forum (assuming that they aren't all talk) catches up to these two bitches and teaches them a lesson that they will never forget. I am also hopeful that I won't have anymore expensive educational experiences to share.

[Onelakerfan]

I haven't been on here that much because I've fallen in Love with a SW.

A few months ago I was driving down a track and saw this pretty SW walking, I didn't pick her up because I was on my way to pay some bills, I saw her once again a few days later, I was going to pick her up, I circled the block and she was gone, two days later I saw her again and finally got the chance to pick her up, I asked her how much for sex, she said $100. I said why not since I've been fiending for her for a while, on the way to the motel we had a really nice conversation, we both realized that we had many things in common, this pretty SW was very sweet and was working the streets to help her family.

We got to the motel, went in and since I was so attracted to her I just had to make a move to kiss her on her lips, she let me, and before I knew it, we were passionately french kissing each other as if she was my high school sweet heart. I was so into this experience that we went at it for about 3 hrs. During sex she kept telling me how she has never had a guy make love to her the way I did. After the sex, we kissed romantically, I licked her neck, her ear and gave her a massage, we talked about life and all kinds of stuff.

I told her that I wanted to see her again, she said "of course" since no man had ever banged her like I did in her life. But I stated that since I was the best lover she's ever had I wasn't going to pay her for sex, she was cool with it. We exchanged numbers, she gave me her personal number, we put our clothes back on, talked some more.

I called her the next day, we talked until her cell ran out of battery, she called me when it was charged and scheduled a booty call. I went over to her home, at first I was cautious about going inside, but brushed it aside, I went in, looked around to see if everything was ok, it was, and she was waiting for me in her bedroom on her bed, we had great sex for about 5 hrs, I went home afterwards, called her the next day and asked her if she would want to go on an actual date with me, she said yes.

As time went on I began to have feelings for her, she did for me also. We have so much in common, we get along great. I've met her family, she's met mine, we are now living together and are very happy with one another.

I've had other SW's that I've become personal lovers to in the past, I even have some that became my friends, I've been a monger for a little over a decade and have seen and experienced many things but I never thought I would actually fall in love and move in with a SW but this one is different, she is like my soul mate, I know some of you may laugh at me or think I'm crazy but this woman is unlike orhers I've come across in my life. I've actually previously been in a relationship with a SW in 2010, I went from being her client, to personal lover, to dating and being in a relationship with her, we broke up because she still wanted to work while being my GF.

I don't think I'll ever stop being a monger though, I'm addicted to it, I guess this former SW is also keeping my urges to monger low since we do a lot of role playing where I play a john and she's the nympho SW hahahahaha. I also think that her being a former SW has also helped since deep down in my head I still feel she is a SW except I bang her for free LOL.

During the days when my mongering was at its highest, I would come across SW's that would tell me how many of their SW friends would run off with their clients and get into real relationships with them.

Don't get me wrong guys, some of these SW's are con artists and will try to play us, get close, take all our money and run back to their pimps or where ever the fuck they came from so be careful. I got lucky with this one.

Stay safe everyone.Pussy Hunter, I can empathize with you. Something similar is happening with me, but it's not with a SW. It's with a non-pro. I have a significant other, with whom I live and whom I love. She works nights, which allows me to monger. Back in August, this true non-pro answered an ad I placed on CL. She's a 35 yr. Old Latina who is tall with a thin build. She has a daughter who is a senior in high school and she needed something extra to pay for all of her daughter's senior things, like pictures, college apps, yearbook, and a host of other senior things. Senior year can be expensive. We actually e-mailed each other for a few days and talked on the phone several times before meeting for coffee. She was understandably nervous. But from the moment we met, we hit it off. There was a connection between us. We agreed to go to a hotel and we did the deed. At first our session was wham bam thank you ma'am. Every week since then we would meet up for coffee or dinner and then go to a hotel. Now we are making love and our sessions are getting emotionally deep. I have developed feelings for her, and she of me. Now I don't know if I'm the best sex she's ever had, but our lovemaking have been steamy. The problem is I love my significant other. As much as it pains me I have to let go of my non-pro. Financially, she has gotten over the hump, but my feelings are deep.

[Ivonnahumpalot]

In needing to feed that victim narrative for the SW, sting arrestee's will be publicly shamed:

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2014/12/10/calling-all-johns-los-angeles-to-publicly-shame-solicitors-of-prostitutes/

[Marlowe]

In needing to feed that victim narrative for the SW, sting arrestee's will be publicly shamed:

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2014/12/10/calling-all-johns-los-angeles-to-publicly-shame-solicitors-of-prostitutes/STF is chid trafficking? Seriously, their copyreaders should be fired! What about those who don't date underage girls? In their opinion are ALL SW victims of Human Trafficking? This is the type of bullshit that I was worrying about during my "ordeal", when these fake cop hookers were questioning me about being married, and how would I like them to call my employer, etc.

[Willie23]

Unsurprisingly, a 'plan' that is 'being submitted' is written up as if it were a law. You really have to watch sensationalist blogs like Breitbart and double check what they say in the real world.

[Hadez]

In needing to feed that victim narrative for the SW, sting arrestee's will be publicly shamed:

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2014/12/10/calling-all-johns-los-angeles-to-publicly-shame-solicitors-of-prostitutes/Anyone who thinks going after the Johns is going to stop child trafficking in the USA are either morons or do not understand the social situations the ends up with "pimps" putting children on the street. It would be far more effective to go after the "pimps".

Going after the Johns is like having a leak, ignoring the hole the water is coming through but trying to fill in the places the water is trying to go to. The water is just going to find another place to go. Meanwhile the hole is going to let more water through.

[CreamyBare]

This looks interesting.

Crabalockerfishwife. Coo coo cachoo.

[HollywoodGuy]

STF is chid trafficking? Seriously, their copyreaders should be fired! What about those who don't date underage girls? In their opinion are ALL SW victims of Human Trafficking? This is the type of bullshit that I was worrying about during my "ordeal", when these fake cop hookers were questioning me about being married, and how would I like them to call my employer, etc.The governments response to any problem is to treat the symptom and not the root cause of the problem. Its the path of least resistance. Hence the continued decline of western civilization. One day hundreds of years from now students will be reading about it like it was the fall of the roman empire.

Sex, drugs. arms, trafficking, oil, graft and corruption are the only growth industries in the world. They issue the police band aids and expect them to stop a heart attack. Legalize, tax and regulate. Its the only solution.

[Poppa Chubby]

Hey Marlowe,

Check this out.

Could be your girls.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-news/20150113/police-say-two-women-dressed-as-deputies-robbed-men-near-carson

[Chato74]

Thanks. I have tried to keep them to the point, if not always short. I hope that at least nobody else is going to fall for a BSW in a white Rav4 pulling up along side them while they are driving and asking them to pull over to discuss a date. I am hoping that one of the more aggressive members of this forum (assuming that they aren't all talk) catches up to these two bitches and teaches them a lesson that they will never forget. I am also hopeful that I won't have anymore expensive educational experiences to share.Maybe it was the same girls, 2 female fake cops were arrested after robbing two different people, it came out today on the channel 11 news. Ck it out.

[Slugfest2]

Hey Marlowe,

Check this out.

Could be your girls.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-news/20150113/police-say-two-women-dressed-as-deputies-robbed-men-near-carsonGood find Poppa.

[HollywoodGuy]

Chloe Goins, a 24-year-old model and dancer, told The Daily Mail that she attended a party with a friend at Hugh Hefner's Playboy Mansion in Los Angeles in 2008, when she was 18 years old. Goins says that Cosby drugged and then led her into a bedroom where she later woke up, completely naked and in a daze, to find the comedian masturbating while licking and biting her toes.

Wouldn't this be more fun if the girl is awake? And she is or was a pro. Why not just pay for it dude? This is the epitome of no game. Or a fetish for unconscious pussy. I wish he would let us know.

[Seephor]

Chloe Goins, a 24-year-old model and dancer, told The Daily Mail that she attended a party with a friend at Hugh Hefner's Playboy Mansion in Los Angeles in 2008, when she was 18 years old. Goins says that Cosby drugged and then led her into a bedroom where she later woke up, completely naked and in a daze, to find the comedian masturbating while licking and biting her toes.

Wouldn't this be more fun if the girl is awake? And she is or was a pro. Why not just pay for it dude? This is the epitome of no game. Or a fetish for unconscious pussy. I wish he would let us know.Good point. I think there are some factors for famous people when it comes to mongering for obvious reasons (Tiger Woods a good example). While you and I could hit up a provider without thinking twice, someone who's in the spotlight has a lot more to lose for their actions. Not that drugging and raping are any less risky but I think in his mind he thought that well if she's drugged and has no idea what happened then there's less chance for consequences. If you read up on some of his history, he had self image issues and him and his friends one day had the idea to have a girl drink some Spanish Fly he got from a sailor. Nothing ever came of that but I can see how that pattern could continue throughout his life. Anyway, sad story any way you look at it.

I don't want to get into politics but in my opinion, he is one of very few black celebrities who is outspoken about the issues that face blacks in this country. I would much rather believe the status quo having a hand in bringing him down for this reason but there comes a point where the scales really tip the other direction and you just have to accept him having major issues.

On the light side, I would much rather munch on Chloe Goins toes than a pro provider. While she's conscious of course.

[Marlowe]

Hey Marlowe,

Check this out.

Could be your girls.

http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-news/20150113/police-say-two-women-dressed-as-deputies-robbed-men-near-carsonThanks, but probably not, unless they changed cars and altered their act drastically. I wish they had released more info about these women. The girl that pulled this bs was wearing a pair of tight fitting jeans and a skin top white top with a black slip, but no bra, hardly your standard Sheriff's ensemble. She was pretending to be UCLE, pulled out a badge, and her friend who was apparently hiding in the back, I surely didn't see her, drove the car to the motel. It was a Rav4, I saw the Toyota emblem on the steering wheel.

[Seephor]

Thanks, but probably not, unless they changed cars and altered their act drastically. I wish they had released more info about these women. The girl that pulled this bs was wearing a pair of tight fitting jeans and a skin top white top with a black slip, but no bra, hardly your standard Sheriff's ensemble. She was pretending to be UCLE, pulled out a badge, and her friend who was apparently hiding in the back, I surely didn't see her, drove the car to the motel. It was a Rav4, I saw the Toyota emblem on the steering wheel.I'm still trying to wrap my head around what happened to you. What I'd like to know most is how they presented themselves. As we all know, LEO just hold themselves different, talk different and usually can spot undercover cops in crowds pretty easily. I can't imagine some ghetto girl from the hood pulling this off no matter how you slice it. I think the first sign it was all BS was when they took you on a shopping spree. What did you talk about in the car while they were driving?

[Marlowe]

I'm still trying to wrap my head around what happened to you. What I'd like to know most is how they presented themselves. As we all know, LEO just hold themselves different, talk different and usually can spot undercover cops in crowds pretty easily. I can't imagine some ghetto girl from the hood pulling this off no matter how you slice it. I think the first sign it was all BS was when they took you on a shopping spree. What did you talk about in the car while they were driving?She was wearing tight jeans and a tight fitting white top, with a black slip underneath, no bra. She got me to pull over, got into my vehicle and suggested having "some fun" for $50. Directed me to drive to a motel (one that a friend of mine and I have previously used). If I was guilty of anything it was being unobservant. I went to the bathroom, came out and got undressed, handed her the agreed upon amount and a condom, whereupon she whipped out the badge and told me she was UCLE! She rifled my wallet and confiscated my cellphone, then apparently called the other girl, whom I never saw when she pulled up along side of me on the street.

I didn't say anything while I was in their car, just, yes and no, which I would recommend to anyone should LE stop you.

[Christophe1]

Boss man said, "You've been slacking son and I'm going to write you up. " What did I do? "Son, you don't get paid to think, you're getting paid to work!"

We punters got it so good. I feel bad for all the guys out there that rely on game alone. Sure she looks good at first. Two hand waist, nice top, fat bottom, angelic attractiveness. But she's been bred to breed. Hooks you in with her flirtatious batting eyelash ways without revealing her entitlement issues.

"OH SHIT. " Now she's pregnant.

You're only in your 20's bro. Wait until she fattens up from child birth. Her hips won't ever be the same. Later you'll leave each other. Get back. Leave. You'll do it with another chick who gets pregnant too. Baby Mommas' Drama.

(Shaking my head). Don't do it. There's too much good free pun tang out there. Don't get them pregnant. Get a couple Cougars. Pay for a female's companionship. Or this may happen to you.

[Tipisil]

Boss man said, "You've been slacking son and I'm going to write you up. " What did I do? "Son, you don't get paid to think, you're getting paid to work!"

We punters got it so good. I feel bad for all the guys out there that rely on game alone. Sure she looks good at first. Two hand waist, nice top, fat bottom, angelic attractiveness. But she's been bred to breed. Hooks you in with her flirtatious batting eyelash ways without revealing her entitlement issues.

"OH SHIT. " Now she's pregnant.

You're only in your 20's bro. Wait until she fattens up from child birth. Her hips won't ever be the same. Later you'll leave each other. Get back. Leave. You'll do it with another chick who gets pregnant too. Baby Mommas' Drama.

(Shaking my head). Don't do it. There's too much good free pun tang out there. Don't get them pregnant. Get a couple Cougars. Pay for a female's companionship. Or this may happen to you.I'm a fan of older women. After menopause, no real need to worry.

[Christophe1]

I'm a fan of older women. After menopause, no real need to worry.Dude I miss my Cougar days. Nothing beats having a woman, that knows what she wants, say bang my ass. or Cum in my mouth. Loves to get in odd sex positions and makes you bang her hard while she screams out obscenities. Then before she squirts grabs a mirror so as to help you watch.

I met one MILF that welcomed me to her boudoir by saying, "I love my job and I don't like protection. "

Ah MILFs. Is there anything that milfs can't do?

Besides having most of the Gilf 10 FWY Asian crew I abstain from geriatrics. At least that I'll admit to. (wink wink)

[Poppa Chubby]

Happy MLK Day everyone!!

[Christophe1]

Happy MLK Day everyone!!Happy MLK for sure BROTHERS.

If only I could be just a quarter the man that Martin Luther King was. I second his dream.

[Chuppi]

In needing to feed that victim narrative for the SW, sting arrestee's will be publicly shamed:

http://www.breitbart.com/california/2014/12/10/calling-all-johns-los-angeles-to-publicly-shame-solicitors-of-prostitutes/A variant of the idea was tried elsewhere, but it flopped. There was a public backlash in MD, but as I don't know what you guys did in CA...
The Live-Tweeted Prostitution Sting Was a Total Bust, and Not in a Good Way
http://www.slate.com/blogs/future_tense/2014/05/07/_pgpdvice_prince_george_s_county_pd_s_live_tweeted_prostitution_sting_was.html

[Marlowe]

According to these documents, Anthony was lured to this room at the DoubleTree Hotel, where the LE decoy quoted him a price of $80. I thought that LE wasn't allowed to quote prices, that by doing so it strengthened the case for entrapment. Are the laws different from state to state with regard to this? Used to be they needed to get you to make them an offer of money for a specific act prior to calling their backups and making the arrest. Did this LE decoy jump the gun?

[CreamyBare]

According to these documents, Anthony was lured to this room at the DoubleTree Hotel, where the LE decoy quoted him a price of $80. I thought that LE wasn't allowed to quote prices, that by doing so it strengthened the case for entrapment. Are the laws different from state to state with regard to this? Entrapment laws do very quite a bit from state to state in fact, entrapment laws are generally caselaw, and while there are some notable Supreme Court cases that affect the entire nation there are some differences at the state level.

Stating an amount doesn't affect entrapment. Entrapment is getting an otherwise innocent person to do something that they wouldn't normally do. If you're looking at ads for hookers, and calling them well you're obviously "in the market" - this is how a "Sting" is not entrapment.

So, to avoid "Imperial entanglements" never ever use the word "condom", never talk about specific sexual acts, never use the word sex.

Most importantly, never, ever, continue discussions with someone who's obviously trying to get YOU to make statements. YOU should never make statements.

If the provider is an unknown, then the only thing you should discuss is an amount for a total amount of time, and no discussion of any sexual acts. Once you've actually had sex, then you can discuss various "extras".

Oh, and by the way, police officers are legally allowed to do drugs with you and expose themselves to you. In fact, part of how they got into Heidi Fleiss's network was some undercover LE had sex with some of Heidi's girls, and the girls thereafter trusted them. Now, the girls that had sex with LE were busted – but they Weren't the target, Heidi was.

[Marlowe]

Entrapment laws do very quite a bit from state to state in fact, entrapment laws are generally caselaw, and while there are some notable Supreme Court cases that affect the entire nation there are some differences at the state level.

Stating an amount doesn't affect entrapment. Entrapment is getting an otherwise innocent person to do something that they wouldn't normally do. If you're looking at ads for hookers, and calling them well you're obviously "in the market" - this is how a "Sting" is not entrapment.

So, to avoid "Imperial entanglements" never ever use the word "condom", never talk about specific sexual acts, never use the word sex.

Most importantly, never, ever, continue discussions with someone who's obviously trying to get YOU to make statements. YOU should never make statements.

If the provider is an unknown, then the only thing you should discuss is an amount for a total amount of time, and no discussion of any sexual acts. Once you've actually had sex, then you can discuss various "extras".

Oh, and by the way, police officers are legally allowed to do drugs with you and expose themselves to you. In fact, part of how they got into Heidi Fleiss's network was some undercover LE had sex with some of Heidi's girls, and the girls thereafter trusted them. Now, the girls that had sex with LE were busted but they Weren't the target, Heidi was.I guess that on the road, another good guideline would be to not do incalls. Once he got there, they were going to bust him, they would have just made up the particulars.

[Dildo Baggens]

Not so, in California.

Not in California, which prohibits the use of paid informants in vice operations and has a specific protocol for street-level and massage parlor prostitution in which suspects must verbally offer sex for money. An officer may not ask for sex or offer to pay.

"You don't have someone go in and actually have sex with a suspected prostitute," said John Lovell, legislative advocate for the California Peace Officers Association. "That would cross the line into entrapment. Prostitution is a crime for both parties in the transaction. That's why I'm frankly puzzled by that kind of procedure. ".

So is defense attorney Maureen Coggins, representing Shiatsu employee Sun Cha Chon. She has asked Judge Robert L. Steinberg to throw out the charges. She said the informant, by engaging in intercourse and other acts, went far beyond what was legally necessary to make a case and further victimized women who are almost certainly involved in prostitution against their will. Steinberg continued the hearing to November.

"In my opinion the probable cause for an arrest is a situation where someone asks for money and they say what specific act they're going to do for the money," Coggins said. "There's no requirement that a sexual act be performed. ".

But Northampton County District Attorney John Morganelli said the completion of sexual acts allows police to bring more substantive charges against suspects -- felony-level prostitution rather than misdemeanor attempt, for example. That can give authorities ammunition to close a spa.

Baggens.


Entrapment laws do very quite a bit from state to state in fact, entrapment laws are generally caselaw, and while there are some notable Supreme Court cases that affect the entire nation there are some differences at the state level.

Stating an amount doesn't affect entrapment. Entrapment is getting an otherwise innocent person to do something that they wouldn't normally do. If you're looking at ads for hookers, and calling them well you're obviously "in the market" - this is how a "Sting" is not entrapment.

So, to avoid "Imperial entanglements" never ever use the word "condom", never talk about specific sexual acts, never use the word sex.

Most importantly, never, ever, continue discussions with someone who's obviously trying to get YOU to make statements. YOU should never make statements.

If the provider is an unknown, then the only thing you should discuss is an amount for a total amount of time, and no discussion of any sexual acts. Once you've actually had sex, then you can discuss various "extras".

Oh, and by the way, police officers are legally allowed to do drugs with you and expose themselves to you. In fact, part of how they got into Heidi Fleiss's network was some undercover LE had sex with some of Heidi's girls, and the girls thereafter trusted them. Now, the girls that had sex with LE were busted but they Weren't the target, Heidi was.

[Marlowe]

Not so, in California.

Not in California, which prohibits the use of paid informants in vice operations and has a specific protocol for street-level and massage parlor prostitution in which suspects must verbally offer sex for money. An officer may not ask for sex or offer to pay.

"You don't have someone go in and actually have sex with a suspected prostitute," said John Lovell, legislative advocate for the California Peace Officers Association. "That would cross the line into entrapment. Prostitution is a crime for both parties in the transaction. That's why I'm frankly puzzled by that kind of procedure. ".

So is defense attorney Maureen Coggins, representing Shiatsu employee Sun Cha Chon. She has asked Judge Robert L. Steinberg to throw out the charges. She said the informant, by engaging in intercourse and other acts, went far beyond what was legally necessary to make a case and further victimized women who are almost certainly involved in prostitution against their will. Steinberg continued the hearing to November.

"In my opinion the probable cause for an arrest is a situation where someone asks for money and they say what specific act they're going to do for the money," Coggins said. "There's no requirement that a sexual act be performed. ".

But Northampton County District Attorney John Morganelli said the completion of sexual acts allows police to bring more substantive charges against suspects -- felony-level prostitution rather than misdemeanor attempt, for example. That can give authorities ammunition to close a spa.

Baggens.But if an LE decoy were to do so, wouldn't they just lie about it and bust you anyway?

[CreamyBare]

Not so, in California.
.You say not California, and then you quote a news article which talks about Northampton County law-enforcement doing exactly that. Do you have a link to the actual news article?

[Dildo Baggens]

http://articles.mcall.com/2007-09-23/news/3776616_1_massage-parlor-prostitution-informant


You say not California, and then you quote a news article which talks about Northampton County law-enforcement doing exactly that. Do you have a link to the actual news article?

[IsopMan]

I have met me a Sexy BL Teen. This is a NON-Pro attitude chick. About 5' and only 98 lbs she is a Monster in doing what needs to be done. If you want to meet this Chick contact me on PM but make sure you have posted some things before so. I can't talk to Non Posters.

I will give you the Skinny on her then 350863350864350865.This is one HOT CHICK. But she is never available so today she contacted me and she decided to hang with me a few today. I told her a knew a few Gents and she is onboard but only today she said. So if interested contact me asap this Super Bowl Sunday and I will get it to her ASAP.

[Gpc1085]

Heard on news a week ago they wanted to cut down on the worlds oldest profession at and around this event (the SB). (guess it has been increasing every year) and look who gets caught in one of the stings. HOF-er and NFL analyst Warren Sapp. LOL. This just after basketball analyst and former NBA player Greg Anthony was arrested two weeks ago for solicitation a prostitute in an Atlantic City Hotel lobby. LOL. Guess no one's immune to it is the moral of the story. Not just senators but two prominent sorts analyst / ex players in less then a month. Wow. Waiting for more details to come out on it. Sure it was a lucrative high end girl he wanted to come to his hotel or maybe he solicited in Lobby I'm thinking. Doubt with his $ it would have been a street girl.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/02/us/warren-sapp-arrest/index.html

[Rockhard 441]

This is one HOT CHICK. But she is never available so today she contacted me and she decided to hang with me a few today. I told her a knew a few Gents and she is onboard but only today she said. So if interested contact me asap this Super Bowl Sunday and I will get it to her ASAP.WOW! She is the definition of SPECTACULAR! Sorry I didn't log in and see this yesterday.

[Marlowe]

If LE were to arrest a girl I had dated previously, and then began texting the numbers in her cell phone, asking the person if they could meet her that day, would that be considered to be entrapment? I got a text from a girl, one that had never texted me before except in response to one of my texts. Fortunately I had a real reason why I couldn't meet her, and I never received another text from her. Now I am wondering if they would stoop so low as to do that, and if so, if it would be entrapment.

[JParkLa]

I think that is entrapment and impersonation. I personally don't see how the police could use another person's phone without their permission, but who knows now days. I guess that would have to be your defense, where it was under false impersonation and due to that it led to entrapment. You would have to read the text and see if it seems like an entrapment and to be safe, be vague in your response. After these recent high profile busts I am having second thoughts of meeting someone without any reviews, even if they have a humaniiplex account.


If LE were to arrest a girl I had dated previously, and then began texting the numbers in her cell phone, asking the person if they could meet her that day, would that be considered to be entrapment? I got a text from a girl, one that had never texted me before except in response to one of my texts. Fortunately I had a real reason why I couldn't meet her, and I never received another text from her. Now I am wondering if they would stoop so low as to do that, and if so, if it would be entrapment.

[Dildo Baggens]

I suppose if that were to happen again and depending on your relationship with her, I would text "call me", so you have voice confirmation. If she did call, just say lets hook up, without any incriminating details.


If LE were to arrest a girl I had dated previously, and then began texting the numbers in her cell phone, asking the person if they could meet her that day, would that be considered to be entrapment? I got a text from a girl, one that had never texted me before except in response to one of my texts. Fortunately I had a real reason why I couldn't meet her, and I never received another text from her. Now I am wondering if they would stoop so low as to do that, and if so, if it would be entrapment.

[CreamyBare]

If LE were to arrest a girl I had dated previously, and then began texting the numbers in her cell phone, asking the person if they could meet her that day, would that be considered to be entrapment? I got a text from a girl, one that had never texted me before except in response to one of my texts. Fortunately I had a real reason why I couldn't meet her, and I never received another text from her. Now I am wondering if they would stoop so low as to do that, and if so, if it would be entrapment.1) yes the police can use a phone confiscated as part of a criminal enterprise.

2) no it would not be entrapment per se, that would depend on other specific circumstances.

[Dolato]

Heard on news a week ago they wanted to cut down on the worlds oldest profession at and around this event (the SB). (guess it has been increasing every year) and look who gets caught in one of the stings. HOF-er and NFL analyst Warren Sapp. LOL. This just after basketball analyst and former NBA player Greg Anthony was arrested two weeks ago for solicitation a prostitute in an Atlantic City Hotel lobby. LOL. Guess no one's immune to it is the moral of the story. Not just senators but two prominent sorts analyst / ex players in less then a month. Wow. Waiting for more details to come out on it. Sure it was a lucrative high end girl he wanted to come to his hotel or maybe he solicited in Lobby I'm thinking. Doubt with his $ it would have been a street girl.

http://www.cnn.com/2015/02/02/us/warren-sapp-arrest/index.htmlSapp wasn't taken down in a sting. The story is that there was a noise complaint and a LEO doing security at the hotel showed up to find Sapp and 2 ladies at the room. The 2 working gals claimed Sapp assaulted them and it came out that they were prostitutes. To make it worse when Sapp got taken in for questioning, he admitted the girls were hookers.

So the key takeaways here for everyone is: avoid drama with the hookers. Fuck them, Pay them, Leave them. And if anything happens, know how to handle questions from the l. E.

[ChrisPoontang]

Sapp wasn't taken down in a sting. The story is that there was a noise complaint and a LEO doing security at the hotel showed up to find Sapp and 2 ladies at the room. The 2 working gals claimed Sapp assaulted them and it came out that they were prostitutes. To make it worse when Sapp got taken in for questioning, he admitted the girls were hookers.

So the key takeaways here for everyone is: avoid drama with the hookers. Fuck them, Pay them, Leave them. And if anything happens, know how to handle questions from the l. E.When he saw two girls at the door he should have pretended he wasnt there. Two hookers always means problems. You might THINK it means double the fun but it doesn't.

It means one girl will either be stealing things, being bored as hell or telling the girl servicing you to hurry up.

He big mistake was admitting they were ******. You always need to play stupid on that issue. Play stupid to the very end.

Even if they had video of me giving the girl the money I'd say I was giving them taxi money back home. I'd still never admit they were ******.

[Marlowe]

Sapp wasn't taken down in a sting. The story is that there was a noise complaint and a LEO doing security at the hotel showed up to find Sapp and 2 ladies at the room. The 2 working gals claimed Sapp assaulted them and it came out that they were prostitutes. To make it worse when Sapp got taken in for questioning, he admitted the girls were hookers.

So the key takeaways here for everyone is: avoid drama with the hookers. Fuck them, Pay them, Leave them. And if anything happens, know how to handle questions from the l. E.So why was the onus immediately on the male, Warren Sapp? These two females admitted to being prostitutes, and to having broken the "law" with him in the hotel room. Why weren't they arrested and charged with what society persists in labelling a crime? Basically this was a negotiation gone bad, after any illegal act had been finished, why was he charged on the basis of the word of these two femalses, both of whom probably have long criminal records?

[Dolato]

So why was the onus immediately on the male, Warren Sapp? These two females admitted to being prostitutes, and to having broken the "law" with him in the hotel room. Why weren't they arrested and charged with what society persists in labelling a crime? Basically this was a negotiation gone bad, after any illegal act had been finished, why was he charged on the basis of the word of these two femalses, both of whom probably have long criminal records?Women were charged as well. He admitted himself during questioning what he had done.

[Hornyag]

Sapp wasn't taken down in a sting. The story is that there was a noise complaint and a LEO doing security at the hotel showed up to find Sapp and 2 ladies at the room. The 2 working gals claimed Sapp assaulted them and it came out that they were prostitutes. To make it worse when Sapp got taken in for questioning, he admitted the girls were hookers.

So the key takeaways here for everyone is: avoid drama with the hookers. Fuck them, Pay them, Leave them. And if anything happens, know how to handle questions from the l. E.Not surprising if in fact Warren Sapp assaulted these woman, he is a world class douche bag and the NFL network was probably happy to finally have a reason to fire him. Prostitution should be legal but assault is another story and I hope he gets what he deserves.

[CreamyBare]

Just for the record, 85% of convictions are because people opened their fucking mouth to LE.

Keep mouth SHUT. It never EVER helps you to talk. The system will NOT go easier on you. EVER.

[Dolato]

Just for the record, 85% of convictions are because people opened their fucking mouth to LE.

Keep mouth SHUT. It never EVER helps you to talk. The system will NOT go easier on you. EVER.He could / would have had some good lawyers working for him to get him off (in the other sense then the hookers) if he kept his mouth shut.

I could see him getting the prostitution charge off and maybe settle out of court for the assault issue and walking away with just bad press, but now he's got an uphill battle to fight.

[DinnerOut35]

The non LEO perils of mongering.

We have all discussed the perils of mongering as it pertains to LEO. Some of these perils also apply to non pros and pros we repeat with. Recently-within a week span of time-despite being well treated and at times overpaid my entire stable of providers has bailed. It was surprising at first but given thought it is not surprising at all. But losing an entire stable of providers in a week is just one of the pitfalls of this hobby.

1. The Relationships.

I have lost not one but two girlfriends because of my mongering. And yes despite using burner phones, fake apps, always buying condoms just before the act and disposing of them right afterwards (guys if you are in a relationship never keep condoms. But the pack of 3, use what you need, and throw away the rest. Don't keep them.) women always seem to be snooping. I actually had one pay some Indian guy online to hack my monger email once years ago. Given that I will never stop mongering the loss of my gf's I hate to say is part of the chance you take. Oh well.

2. The disappeared provider.

Some providers you see for weeks at a time. You even might fix their door in the house or have a Starbucks together. All is fine. And then poof! They disappear. Phone disconnected, emails either not responded to or email account is deleted. Given we all know a P4 P situation can't last forever after having such a good business relationship you wonder why these women disappear. The human in us makes us wonder-did she find more business, is she hurt / injured etc. I learned that after two emails and two calls I no longer try again and never respond if they ever reach out again.

3. The Never contact me again.

Non Pros are famous for this. One day, out of the blue, you get an email or sms saying "please never contact me again". This is despite all the extra things you did that you shouldn't have done for the non pro and all the the extra money you would give sometimes. Now most of the time these non pros suddenly get a bf or find a job and thus you are not needed anymore. What I always find funny is when you check their Facebook or Instagram you find out the real story. They now have a husband or something. The non pros are always the hardest to swallow because you do generate a relationship with the person. I had a UCLA girl that did that after I lent her $200 bucks. And that angered me because clearly she used me and I saw on her Instagram she went out the night before with her new boyfriend (with my money). So stupid girl that she is I found her mom in Facebook and forwarded her all of her daughters slutty emails. Wrong yes I know but her actions were uncalled for.

4. Diseases.

A part of this hobby rarely discussed. After seeing a video about herpes I no longer even get BBBJ anymore. One provider I saw recently in Long Beach had some seriously suspect healing sores down there. I simply packed up and left. I even know where boxers when getting FS to avoid as little skin to skin contact as possible. Sounds extreme I know but take the time to see a video about herpes and the LIFELONG horror it brings. You will be the same.

With that said if any of you guys have a provider or two to share this week pass it on. As with past instances when I build up my stable again I will be happy to share.

Now if I can find ANY provider at all or especially a pregnant one.

Dinnerout.

[Chazm69]

. I had a UCLA girl that did that after I lent her $200 bucks. And that angered me because clearly she used me and I saw on her Instagram she went out the night before with her new boyfriend (with my money). So stupid girl that she is I found her mom in Facebook and forwarded her all of her daughters slutty emails. Wrong yes I know but her actions were uncalled for.
That was pretty fucked up dude. If life, whenever you give a "loan", especially to a ho, never expect to get it back.

No wonder you can't maintain relationships.

[Dolato]

That was pretty fucked up dude. If life, whenever you give a "loan", especially to a ho, never expect to get it back.

No wonder you can't maintain relationships.I try not to judge in this line of hobby, but somebody in one of the boards mentioned the golden rule when dealing with nps that you should do no harm.

I agree that in all parts of life I don't loan anything that I can't live without. Especially someone fucking me specifically for the cash.

[Chazm69]

I try not to judge in this line of hobby, but somebody in one of the boards mentioned the golden rule when dealing with nps that you should do no harm.

I agree that in all parts of life I don't loan anything that I can't live without. Especially someone fucking me specifically for the cash.If it's only their life they're affecting, fine, no judgement. I hear ya but I'm calling this one as I see it. Who knows the amount of damage / ramifications that was inflicted over a couple of bucks.

I guess Karma's going to be kicking someone's ass.

[Seephor]

The non LEO perils of mongering.
I had a UCLA girl that did that after I lent her $200 bucks. And that angered me because clearly she used me and I saw on her Instagram she went out the night before with her new boyfriend (with my money). So stupid girl that she is I found her mom in Facebook and forwarded her all of her daughters slutty emails. Wrong yes I know but her actions were uncalled for.
I actually don't see this being wrong in any way as apposed to all you mongers out there. The guy went out of his way to loan out money, doesn't matter who it is, ho or a lawyer. She should have thought twice about jacking someone like that. It's this type of attitude you guys have that turn these women in robs and the ability to walk all over you. They see how easy it is to rob you and get away with it so hey, why not.

[Poon Hound]

I actually don't see this being wrong in any way as apposed to all you mongers out there. The guy went out of his way to loan out money, doesn't matter who it is, ho or a lawyer. She should have thought twice about jacking someone like that. It's this type of attitude you guys have that turn these women in robs and the ability to walk all over you. They see how easy it is to rob you and get away with it so hey, why not.No. Lending money in the first place is what makes you weak. These girls are attracted to thugs and you aint nuthin (because you payin 4 pussy.) you will never be anything but a trick and they going to milk you for everything they can. You will be better off keepin it bizness and treat them like dirt.

[SaltyDog]

The non LEO perils of mongering.

We have all discussed the perils of mongering as it pertains to LEO. Some of these perils also apply to non pros and pros we repeat with. Recently-within a week span of time-despite being well treated and at times overpaid my entire stable of providers has bailed. It was surprising at first but given thought it is not surprising at all. But losing an entire stable of providers in a week is just one of the pitfalls of this hobby.

1. The Relationships.

I have lost not one but two girlfriends because of my mongering. And yes despite using burner phones, fake apps, always buying condoms just before the act and disposing of them right afterwards (guys if you are in a relationship never keep condoms. But the pack of 3, use what you need, and throw away the rest. Don't keep them.) women always seem to be snooping. I actually had one pay some Indian guy online to hack my monger email once years ago. Given that I will never stop mongering the loss of my gf's I hate to say is part of the chance you take. Oh well.

2. The disappeared provider.

Some providers you see for weeks at a time. You even might fix their door in the house or have a Starbucks together. All is fine. And then poof! They disappear. Phone disconnected, emails either not responded to or email account is deleted. Given we all know a P4 P situation can't last forever after having such a good business relationship you wonder why these women disappear. The human in us makes us wonder-did she find more business, is she hurt / injured etc. I learned that after two emails and two calls I no longer try again and never respond if they ever reach out again.

3. The Never contact me again.

Non Pros are famous for this. One day, out of the blue, you get an email or sms saying "please never contact me again". This is despite all the extra things you did that you shouldn't have done for the non pro and all the the extra money you would give sometimes. Now most of the time these non pros suddenly get a bf or find a job and thus you are not needed anymore. What I always find funny is when you check their Facebook or Instagram you find out the real story. They now have a husband or something. The non pros are always the hardest to swallow because you do generate a relationship with the person. I had a UCLA girl that did that after I lent her $200 bucks. And that angered me because clearly she used me and I saw on her Instagram she went out the night before with her new boyfriend (with my money). So stupid girl that she is I found her mom in Facebook and forwarded her all of her daughters slutty emails. Wrong yes I know but her actions were uncalled for.

4. Diseases.

A part of this hobby rarely discussed. After seeing a video about herpes I no longer even get BBBJ anymore. One provider I saw recently in Long Beach had some seriously suspect healing sores down there. I simply packed up and left. I even know where boxers when getting FS to avoid as little skin to skin contact as possible. Sounds extreme I know but take the time to see a video about herpes and the LIFELONG horror it brings. You will be the same.

With that said if any of you guys have a provider or two to share this week pass it on. As with past instances when I build up my stable again I will be happy to share.

Now if I can find ANY provider at all or especially a pregnant one.

Dinnerout.Man. I'd love to see who th is you CLA gal is. Any way for me to see how she looks?

I've heard of gAls doing this rip off shit getting stood up lots. They play gAmes and so do guys.

[Marlowe]

No. Lending money in the first place is what makes you weak. These girls are attracted to thugs and you aint nuthin (because you payin 4 pussy.) you will never be anything but a trick and they going to milk you for everything they can. You will be better off keepin it bizness and treat them like dirt.While this might be words to live by, it's too general. I wouldn't lend money to any girl, but that doesn't mean you have to treat her like and object rather than a person. Each situation is different and a wise man plays it accordingly.

[ChrisPoontang]

While this might be words to live by, it's too general. I wouldn't lend money to any girl, but that doesn't mean you have to treat her like and object rather than a person. Each situation is different and a wise man plays it accordingly.I don't know of any working girls that provide loans?

If you know of a young, busty working girl that will let me bone her on Monday but wait until Friday for payment please let me know.

[St Stephen]

If you want to get laid get a hooker. On the street, on-line, or where ever. If you want a girlfriend use a dating site or whatever. Hookers don't make good girlfriends. There are exceptions to the rule but not many. I had a friend who spent a lot of money on HX girls looking for girlfriend. I kept trying to explain that they are just taking your money. He was paying for multiple hours, overnighters and wasting his cash. Now he has a girlfriend and is getting married. Treat a hooker like a lady and you will get your moneys worth. That's my 2 cents. I've been doing this since the late 70's. I tried dating a couple of girls form an MP, but they were looking for citizenship not a boyfriend.

[Seephor]

If you want to get laid get a hooker. On the street, on-line, or where ever. If you want a girlfriend use a dating site or whatever. Hookers don't make good girlfriends. There are exceptions to the rule but not many. I had a friend who spent a lot of money on HX girls looking for girlfriend. I kept trying to explain that they are just taking your money. He was paying for multiple hours, overnighters and wasting his cash. Now he has a girlfriend and is getting married. Treat a hooker like a lady and you will get your moneys worth. That's my 2 cents. I've been doing this since the late 70's. I tried dating a couple of girls form an MP, but they were looking for citizenship not a boyfriend.These are the best words I've heard in a long time from this board. Some of you guys are looking for girlfriends from these women. I could sort of understand because working girls are probably the only breed of women who don't judge you so you instantly feel comfortable around them, I get it. Even non-pros fall into that category. There are exceptions to the rule like Stephen says but these are few and far between. You could in theory come across a women who has maybe JUST started and you two click in a way and you take her in and support her. I'm not saying it's impossible but there could be a chance there but a working girl who has been doing this for years isn't going to be phased by you in any way. I have seen these women during and after their "work" and have been them enter into a completely different mental state when they're "working". Most have major life issues and are unstable in general. I don't disrespect them for what they do but I see them serving only one purpose in "my" life at least. If you think you can be capt. Save-a-ho then more power to you. I can assure you that you will spend a shit ton of money and probably end up empty handed in the end. You are way better off throwing your money around at bars and clubs if you're looking for a slutty gf.

I eat at a local fast food joint near my work a few times a week. This women and her child always hang around the entrance and asks for assistance for food. I would rate her a 6 as working girl material. Hell I have paid 100+ for women who are worse looking than her in the past. I don't know how much she collects begging all day but I always think to myself if she were to turn ho (which she could easily do), she could make good money. But obviously she isn't. She'd rather hang around the food joint asking for food money. I guess the point I'm trying to make is that it takes a special breed of women to be able to ho and generally speaking, these are women you want nothing to do with in your everyday life.

That's my 2 cents.

[Willie23]

If you want to get laid get a hooker. On the street, on-line, or where ever. If you want a girlfriend use a dating site or whatever. Hookers don't make good girlfriends. There are exceptions to the rule but not many. I had a friend who spent a lot of money on HX girls looking for girlfriend. I kept trying to explain that they are just taking your money. He was paying for multiple hours, overnighters and wasting his cash. Now he has a girlfriend and is getting married. Treat a hooker like a lady and you will get your moneys worth. That's my 2 cents. I've been doing this since the late 70's. I tried dating a couple of girls form an MP, but they were looking for citizenship not a boyfriend.

Solid advice there.

Further to the citizenship marriage, I think it should pay about $25 K, over and above expenses, so I could be open to that under certain circumstances. But that means she'd need to keep working to produce the payment. Assuming she's paying off the folks who brought her here, and the cost of jumping through immigration hoops, she could be continuing work for a few years.

[The Camel]

Solid advice there.

Further to the citizenship marriage, I think it should pay about $25 K, over and above expenses, so I could be open to that under certain circumstances. But that means she'd need to keep working to produce the payment. Assuming she's paying off the folks who brought her here, and the cost of jumping through immigration hoops, she could be continuing work for a few years.I have no claim to understanding the whole SoCal universe of asian women paying prospective husbands for an "immigration marriage", but the few that I've personally witnessed among friends who have been both grooms and brides and also fiancés in cases where the marriage never came about, it has been universal that the payment means there will be no marital relationship at all. It's strictly business. I've seen it go the other way too when "true love" blossomed and the brides paid no bounty for a marriage that they hope will enhance their immigration status.

Whatever, its all a Hall of Mirrors to be avoided as a general rule. But do what I say not as I do as I'm currently involved in relationships with two immigrants who have student and travel Visas, but not the green card they'll eventually need.

[Alexander314]

http://eccie.net/showthread.php?t=1296880

Pretty great looking girl from Texas is due here Wed. Pretty great reviews on eccie (bigger in the midwest) I have not seen her personally yet just wanted to give some heads up. Above is the link to her add if you click on her profile she has a few pics if you are a member some of her reviewers shared some pics of her.

[Christophe1]

I think this one is from Tijuana.

[HapaBoy86]

I think this one is from Tijuana.Nice and hairy.

[Livinitup]

There is a link on this sit to website called something like Blackgirls Wanting to Hookup with Whiteguys.

Has anyone tried it or checked it out?

Interested to hear your comments good bad or indifferent.

[Dash Belli]

I think this one is from Tijuana.Yummy. Too bad she's not in LA.

[Christophe1]

There is a link on this sit to website called something like Blackgirls Wanting to Hookup with Whiteguys.

Has anyone tried it or checked it out?

Interested to hear your comments good bad or indifferent.I haven't tried the website. Since you're cruising already, ask for your friend's facebook info. I haven't worked this angle other than a preliminary expedition of exploration. Some of the Compton girls will charge an extra few bucks for an intro service fee though. Girls love guys with a few bucks to spend. Might get your freak on with an around the world with a golden Non-Pro on a week where gov checks aren't given out. Just saying.


Yummy. Too bad she's not in LA.Actually that was poor posting on my part. I went to Tijuana and her name is Crystal. She is a street girl working with a cute face, nice body and who offered a fair rate. Note to self: Go to Tijuana to pick up some spice.

[Marlowe]

I haven't tried the website. Since you're cruising already, ask for your friend's facebook info. I haven't worked this angle other than a preliminary expedition of exploration. Some of the Compton girls will charge an extra few bucks for an intro service fee though. Girls love guys with a few bucks to spend. Might get your freak on with an around the world with a golden Non-Pro on a week where gov checks aren't given out. Just saying.

Actually that was poor posting on my part. I went to Tijuana and her name is Crystal. She is a street girl working with a cute face, nice body and who offered a fair rate. Note to self: Go to Tijuana to pick up some spice.It's basically bullshit. Like all of these meet online sites they let you join for free, but if you want to text or otherwise contact anyone that "likes" you, you have to pay their premium fee to upgrade, usually around $45-$50 per month, and it renews automatically. It is a pain to get it off your account once they have done this. Not worth the aggravation, just for the chance that you might find a gem, IMHO.

[Greeekman]

It's basically bullshit. Like all of these meet online sites they let you join for free, but if you want to text or otherwise contact anyone that "likes" you, you have to pay their premium fee to upgrade, usually around $45-$50 per month, and it renews automatically. It is a pain to get it off your account once they have done this. Not worth the aggravation, just for the chance that you might find a gem, IMHO.I agree totally that this is a bullshit shit and should be avoided. I would go one step further that I would recommend never using a credit card to pay for anything. It just leaves a paper trail you don't want coming back to you. Many years ago when I lived in LA, I used to frequent a place that accepted credit cards as payment. I can't remember what they charge it as but it was probably spa services. I always paid cash except for one time when I was broke and horny (never a good combination). A couple of years later they were busted and they got credit card records as part of the investigation. I had left LA by then and was contacted by the LAPD by phone. I had an attorney for some other stuff at the time so before I called them back, I talked to them. His advice was that I couldn't remember the transaction and to stick to that line. I did so and they moved on but others were not as lucky and several traded testifying for the cops in return for not being charged. I assume others were charged. If you have to use a credit card, buy a prepaid at the grocery store and only use if for that reason and then get rid of it. Use it as a burner card.

[Seephor]

I agree totally that this is a bullshit shit and should be avoided. I would go one step further that I would recommend never using a credit card to pay for anything. It just leaves a paper trail you don't want coming back to you. Many years ago when I lived in LA, I used to frequent a place that accepted credit cards as payment. I can't remember what they charge it as but it was probably spa services. I always paid cash except for one time when I was broke and horny (never a good combination). A couple of years later they were busted and they got credit card records as part of the investigation. I had left LA by then and was contacted by the LAPD by phone. I had an attorney for some other stuff at the time so before I called them back, I talked to them. His advice was that I couldn't remember the transaction and to stick to that line. I did so and they moved on but others were not as lucky and several traded testifying for the cops in return for not being charged. I assume others were charged. If you have to use a credit card, buy a prepaid at the grocery store and only use if for that reason and then get rid of it. Use it as a burner card.Why would you get busted for visiting a spa service even if they were turning tricks? It's not like they have any hard evidence whatsoever what went on that day. If I were to guess, they probably were not looking to bust you but instead question you or maybe threaten you to testify against the agency.

[HollywoodGuy]

Why would you get busted for visiting a spa service even if they were turning tricks? It's not like they have any hard evidence whatsoever what went on that day. If I were to guess, they probably were not looking to bust you but instead question you or maybe threaten you to testify against the agency.A couple of years ago I was dating a BP girl and she got busted in the room. The room was in my name. They never called me. She said the LAPD told her to tell me I was on some kind of list. End of story.

[Seephor]

A couple of years ago I was dating a BP girl and she got busted in the room. The room was in my name. They never called me. She said the LAPD told her to tell me I was on some kind of list. End of story.Interesting. I just want to clarify what you meant by this list. Like a blacklist? Does this mean they have a record of you as a "potential" in case they do bust you, they could use this evidence against you?

[IsopMan]

I have met me a Sexy BL Teen. This is a NON-Pro attitude chick. About 5' and only 98 lbs she is a Monster in doing what needs to be done. If you want to meet this Chick contact me on PM but make sure you have posted some things before so. I can't talk to Non Posters.

I will give you the Skinny on her then 350863350864350865.FYI: This Tenderoni will be in town today. She told me she'll be here from 9-3 P. I've already given out her number to a few so give her a text. (I'm trying to get a discount).

[HollywoodGuy]

Interesting. I just want to clarify what you meant by this list. Like a blacklist? Does this mean they have a record of you as a "potential" in case they do bust you, they could use this evidence against you?They called it a pimp list. I did have a run in with them after that, and they never mentioned it. It was a sting. She had pics of herself when she was a little younger than her 21 years and they got suspicious. They were very disappointed when they saw her ID.

[Livinitup]

I haven't tried the website. Since you're cruising already, ask for your friend's facebook info. I haven't worked this angle other than a preliminary expedition of exploration.Thanks for the good advise C1. Yeah the Blackgirls looking for Whiteguys website is probably TGBT. And as for Facebook info I have read accounts of fellow mongers good results for pursuing leads through a SW "Friends". But there again I don't do FB. Makes you easy too trace.

Cheers.

L.

[RomeyClone]

Just for the record, 85% of convictions are because people opened their fucking mouth to LE.

Keep mouth SHUT. It never EVER helps you to talk. The system will NOT go easier on you. EVER.No truer words have been spoken. I have experienced this firsthand, they aren't your pals, they're trying to prosecute you, remember you have a RIGHT to remain silent. Exercise your rights.

Anywho, I've been out of the loop for a while, how's everyone doing?

[IsopMan]

Hey Fellow Lurkers, I passed on a couple of Names to a Member who, called the Girls up and they both felt uncomfortable with him. They Felt he was LE because of the way he asked question. I noticed too he had no reports. No sure if I should mention it to Admin and not sure if I could give you name privately. But beware.

[Poon Hound]

Hey Fellow Lurkers, I passed on a couple of Names to a Member who, called the Girls up and they both felt uncomfortable with him. They Felt he was LE because of the way he asked question. I noticed too he had no reports. No sure if I should mention it to Admin and not sure if I could give you name privately. But beware.Should only pass to Seniors who contribute! Its not hard to become one. LE or not, anyone not active deserves nothing! Post about a BBBJ contact and leaches come out in droves!

[Kampfire]

Hey Fellow Lurkers, I passed on a couple of Names to a Member who, called the Girls up and they both felt uncomfortable with him. They Felt he was LE because of the way he asked question. I noticed too he had no reports. No sure if I should mention it to Admin and not sure if I could give you name privately. But beware.I would NEVER, and don't, share info (that is not already in the public domain) with other hobbyists who do not have a clear long history of being in the game. Period.

[Tipisil]

I would NEVER, and don't, share info (that is not already in the public domain) with other hobbyists who do not have a clear long history of being in the game. Period.Share with trusted senior members only.

[Dolato]

Hey Fellow Lurkers, I passed on a couple of Names to a Member who, called the Girls up and they both felt uncomfortable with him. They Felt he was LE because of the way he asked question. I noticed too he had no reports. No sure if I should mention it to Admin and not sure if I could give you name privately. But beware.You could share the username, but if he's got no reports, he'll just make a new account.

It seems like alot of work for LEO and I'd guess just a guy new to the hobby unaware how to make contact, but better safe then sorry for everyone.

[Member #5725]

Share with trusted senior members only.Yeh- I made the mistake of giving someone the name of a Thai spot that I scored a BJ in and they called up the joint and said they heard they could get BJ there.

Asshats!!

[Sucker Bill]

We have all discussed the perils of mongering as it pertains to LEO. Some of these perils also apply to non pros and pros we repeat with. Recently-within a week span of time-despite being well treated and at times overpaid my entire stable of providers has bailed. It was surprising at first but given thought it is not surprising at all. But losing an entire stable of providers in a week is just one of the pitfalls of this hobby.

2. The disappeared provider.

Some providers you see for weeks at a time. You even might fix their door in the house or have a Starbucks together. All is fine. And then poof! They disappear. Phone disconnected, emails either not responded to or email account is deleted. Given we all know a P4 P situation can't last forever after having such a good business relationship you wonder why these women disappear. The human in us makes us wonder-did she find more business, is she hurt / injured etc. I learned that after two emails and two calls I no longer try again and never respond if they ever reach out again.This is the one I never get. The girls that you don't want to see, they call you three times a day for a month before they stop bugging you. The non-stop phone calls during dinner and in the middle of the night are half the reason I'm turned off to seeing them anymore. But, the really great girls that you enjoy, they lose their phone or whatever and that's it. They're just gone. I would think that they would have a phone book and keep my number since we worked out so well, but, no.

This is the life they lead. If they were able to have any order in their lives at all, they probably wouldn't be blowing strangers to survive. One girl I've known for several years who I know depends on me tremendously for help loses her phone book and purse constantly, and, with it, my number. I'll just lose touch with her, then find her four months later walking down the street one day just out of sheer luck. I wonder why she doesn't memorize my number or tattoo it on her fucking foot. Again, this is what we're dealing with. It's a package deal.

[Socalimp]

I would sum it all up to this as I have experience this as well.

It comes down to a matter of importance which is completely subjective.


This is the one I never get. The girls that you don't want to see, they call you three times a day for a month before they stop bugging you. The non-stop phone calls during dinner and in the middle of the night are half the reason I'm turned off to seeing them anymore. But, the really great girls that you enjoy, they lose their phone or whatever and that's it. They're just gone. I would think that they would have a phone book and keep my number since we worked out so well, but, no.

This is the life they lead. If they were able to have any order in their lives at all, they probably wouldn't be blowing strangers to survive. One girl I've known for several years who I know depends on me tremendously for help loses her phone book and purse constantly, and, with it, my number. I'll just lose touch with her, then find her four months later walking down the street one day just out of sheer luck. I wonder why she doesn't memorize my number or tattoo it on her fucking foot. Again, this is what we're dealing with. It's a package deal.

[Seephor]

This is the one I never get. The girls that you don't want to see, they call you three times a day for a month before they stop bugging you. The non-stop phone calls during dinner and in the middle of the night are half the reason I'm turned off to seeing them anymore. But, the really great girls that you enjoy, they lose their phone or whatever and that's it. They're just gone. I would think that they would have a phone book and keep my number since we worked out so well, but, no.

This is the life they lead. If they were able to have any order in their lives at all, they probably wouldn't be blowing strangers to survive. One girl I've known for several years who I know depends on me tremendously for help loses her phone book and purse constantly, and, with it, my number. I'll just lose touch with her, then find her four months later walking down the street one day just out of sheer luck. I wonder why she doesn't memorize my number or tattoo it on her fucking foot. Again, this is what we're dealing with. It's a package deal.This is a constant reality for me as well. I lean towards human psychology when it comes to this however. I think it's sort of like give them attention / help / shelter and they will walk all over you. Treat them like shit and they come running back. Most women (working or otherwise) tend to have a keen sense for this. It's sort of like as soon as they see that it's YOU who is running after them, they tend to see desperateness, not take you seriously and walk the other direction for some reason, ignoring all logic even though there's $$ involved. I often times have to force myself to keep it cool when I find a girl I really really dig. Not make too many compliments, not texting right after a session, treat the session as if it's like every other session even though it was fucking awesome. Basically keep it businesslike as much as possible. Maybe it's all superstition who knows but it tends to work for me most of the time. The few times that I couldn't book another session with someone have been the times where I've been head-over-heels so to speak for the girl.

[Marlowe]

This is the one I never get. The girls that you don't want to see, they call you three times a day for a month before they stop bugging you. The non-stop phone calls during dinner and in the middle of the night are half the reason I'm turned off to seeing them anymore. But, the really great girls that you enjoy, they lose their phone or whatever and that's it. They're just gone. I would think that they would have a phone book and keep my number since we worked out so well, but, no.

This is the life they lead. If they were able to have any order in their lives at all, they probably wouldn't be blowing strangers to survive. One girl I've known for several years who I know depends on me tremendously for help loses her phone book and purse constantly, and, with it, my number. I'll just lose touch with her, then find her four months later walking down the street one day just out of sheer luck. I wonder why she doesn't memorize my number or tattoo it on her fucking foot. Again, this is what we're dealing with. It's a package deal.Maybe it's the pimps. This happened with this girl Tiffany, and she sent me a voicemail, totally personalized (after about 4 dates, the last three with BBBJ) in which she promised to call me again soon with her new number. Apparently her brother, who was pimping her (sick situation there) didn't like her frequently dating a white guy and took away her phone. Never did hear from her again.

[Cres Prophet2]

Maybe it's the pimps. This happened with this girl Tiffany, and she sent me a voicemail, totally personalized (after about 4 dates, the last three with BBBJ) in which she promised to call me again soon with her new number. Apparently her brother, who was pimping her (sick situation there) didn't like her frequently dating a white guy and took away her phone. Never did hear from her again.Always a weird one when they disappear. There was a latina girl that rotated through the San Dimas area. She and I got along great. She stopped working with that group and as far as I can tell has stopped providing.

She calls and leaves me a message with her personal number. We exchange a few text messages and then she drops off the face of the earth. Bummer as I really liked her quite a bit.

[Christophe1]

NPs and then sum.

[Christophe1]

NPs and then sum.Sum More and then sum. Can you pick the one I dated?

[Christophe1]

Sum More and then sum. Can you pick the one I dated?Sum More Dim Sum.

Stayed clear of the 1st one. Whoah Momma.

[AsianPussy]

Hey Fellow Lurkers, I passed on a couple of Names to a Member who, called the Girls up and they both felt uncomfortable with him. They Felt he was LE because of the way he asked question. I noticed too he had no reports. No sure if I should mention it to Admin and not sure if I could give you name privately. But beware.I ignore PM's from anyone with a post count under 50.

If I do reply I just tell them to RTFF.

[Mw Jrp]

Hey Fellow Lurkers, I passed on a couple of Names to a Member who, called the Girls up and they both felt uncomfortable with him. They Felt he was LE because of the way he asked question. I noticed too he had no reports. No sure if I should mention it to Admin and not sure if I could give you name privately. But beware.Any member, here, that passes info privately indiscriminately is an idiot, IMO. How can you separate the LE, from the weirdoes, from the kooks, from the decent guys on USASG? By reading their history. Let me repeat! BY READING THEIR HISTORICAL REPORTS!

You would be amazed by how many guys ask for info and have ZERO reports. And just as many have 15 or 20 reports and everyone is a question or worthless also-type comment. The poor bastard never dated a gal and reported getting sucked or fucked off; just worthless comments.

I read a guys last 10 posts, if he has any, that is, to see what sort of guy he is; mostly to weed out LE. And then if he seems to be a decent, respectful, safe guy similar to me, I share info. But about 85% of the members on here, get deleted without any answer from me. Because I have read their historical reports and just can't figure out who or what they are.

Error on the side of caution, or prepare for consequences. This may sound harsh, but think about all of the down side to sharing info like you just did. Be safe and good hunting. MW.

[Dildo Baggens]

I concur. If I get PM's from anyone with 5 posts or less, I don't bother replying. I'll be damned if I'll risk my Recon work, I've worked very hard for and give it to a potential troll, jerk or LE.

Baggens.


Any member, here, that passes info privately indiscriminately is an idiot, IMO. How can you separate the LE, from the weirdoes, from the kooks, from the decent guys on USASG? By reading their history. Let me repeat! BY READING THEIR HISTORICAL REPORTS!

You would be amazed by how many guys ask for info and have ZERO reports. And just as many have 15 or 20 reports and everyone is a question or worthless also-type comment. The poor bastard never dated a gal and reported getting sucked or fucked off; just worthless comments.

I read a guys last 10 posts, if he has any, that is, to see what sort of guy he is; mostly to weed out LE. And then if he seems to be a decent, respectful, safe guy similar to me, I share info. But about 85% of the members on here, get deleted without any answer from me. Because I have read their historical reports and just can't figure out who or what they are.

Error on the side of caution, or prepare for consequences. This may sound harsh, but think about all of the down side to sharing info like you just did. Be safe and good hunting. MW.

[Marlowe]

I concur. If I get PM's from anyone with 5 posts or less, I don't bother replying. I'll be damned if I'll risk my Recon work, I've worked very hard for and give it to a potential troll, jerk or LE.

Baggens.Then again, there are Senior Members with thousands of posts that have said nothing! Would you give up the digits to Hizark20, Hargow20, SoCalMonger, or any of his other aliases? Also, doesn't the quality of the girl in question limit the number of PMs you would accept to give out her info? If I don't feel a comfort level with someone after reviewing their posts, I don't give them anything. Even then you get a troll that pretends to be you when calling a girl, and spooks her so that she won't even take your calls. You would think since your # was in her phone, she would be less suspicious, but then some of these girls aren't the sharpest knives in the kitchen.

[DinnerOut35]

Guys its Friday and my former stable is empty. Any Senior members have some provider info to share with me today? As usual I will post a blow by blow report and share my stable info as soon as I build it up again.

Preggos especially.

Dinnerout.

[Livinitup]

Help us help you by giving us some basic info.

What area OC LA westside, east LA.

Asian, Latina, Black, White what?

Spinner, BBW, tall or shorty?

MILF WTF?


Guys its Friday and my former stable is empty. Any Senior members have some provider info to share with me today? As usual I will post a blow by blow report and share my stable info as soon as I build it up again.

Preggos especially.

Dinnerout.

[KweGibo]

New here, look forward to sharing info and reviews with you guys figured I'd start contributing.

[Ddddan218]

Is this real?

I mean, WTF?

I just found this website, exposingjohns dot com.

It said it does sting operations by civilians and they posted pictures and phone numbers of the guys who just responded any ad of girls offering any sexual favors.

They also posted those Johns' text messages (that's how they got them) and the messages are insane.

Most of them are like, "Hello, are you available?" or "How much would cost for a massage of 90 minutes" or "I just saw your ad and wondering how much for your companionship" or "how much, and where?

I even saw one busted johns' text message only saying "hello".

That's it!

You texted someone "hello" and they said the man was busted by them and posted picture, phone number, etc.

I mean, WTF?

Is this legal?

Can they do this legally?

Anybody knows anything about this 'sting operation' organization by civilians?

Either way, be careful everyone.

[NotTom]

All mongers should have prepaid throw away phone. Or the Burner app on your smartphones only $4. 99 a month. Never give these girls your personal # !

[HollywoodGuy]

Is this real?

I mean, WTF?

I just found this website, exposingjohns dot com.

It said it does sting operations by civilians and they posted pictures and phone numbers of the guys who just responded any ad of girls offering any sexual favors.

They also posted those Johns' text messages (that's how they got them) and the messages are insane.

Most of them are like, "Hello, are you available?" or "How much would cost for a massage of 90 minutes" or "I just saw your ad and wondering how much for your companionship" or "how much, and where?

I even saw one busted johns' text message only saying "hello".

That's it!

You texted someone "hello" and they said the man was busted by them and posted picture, phone number, etc.

I mean, WTF?

Is this legal?

Can they do this legally?

Anybody knows anything about this 'sting operation' organization by civilians?

Either way, be careful everyone.Actually it is a grey area that is fast becoming illegal and I believe already is in california. The sole pupose of the site is to direct you to this site.

http://www.internetreputation.com/remove-posts-by-an-ex-girlfriend-or-boyfriend/exposingjohns-com/

You then pay a fee to be removed. Its called a shaming site. Cases in california have already come down against site operators. Similar to escort listing sites that escorts have never signed up to and then demand $$$ to be removed. Just another internet scam.

[GolferSphen]

All mongers should have prepaid throw away phone. Or the Burner app on your smartphones only $4. 99 a month. Never give these girls your personal # !I just got a Google voice number linked to my mongering Google account and it is free.

[Max #01]

Actually it is a grey area that is fast becoming illegal and I believe already is in california. The sole pupose of the site is to direct you to this site.

http://www.internetreputation.com/remove-posts-by-an-ex-girlfriend-or-boyfriend/exposingjohns-com/

You then pay a fee to be removed. Its called a shaming site. Cases in california have already come down against site operators. Similar to escort listing sites that escorts have never signed up to and then demand $$$ to be removed. Just another internet scam.I found a pretty comprehensive article about the site: http://johntv.com/exposingjohns-com-exposed/.

Some interesting facts from the article:

"In reality the site works something like this. Fake ads for erotic massage, escort services, prostitution, dating, one night stands, etc. Are posted to websites like Backpage.com and Craigslist. The ads specifically request that you text the ad's author to contact them. When you send them a text even something as innocuous as "Hello" in response to an online ad is likely to get you highlighted on their website.

UPDATE: Many people are reporting that they were posted on ExposingJohns.com after responding to a non-adult ad (like for a used microwave or lawn mower). ".

And:

"The text message is captured as a screen grab and published as 'evidence' of solicitation of prostitution. If you have a social media presence on a site like Facebook, they grab a photo of you, along with your name and the phone number you used and post it to their website.

Reportedly, not long after your information is published on their website they begin sending texts to your phone encouraging you to pay one of several fees to have the information removed. This is where the extortion comes into play.

As shown in the graphic below (click for larger image), ExposingJohns.com would have those who appear on their site pay $195.97 all the way up to $495.97 to have their information deleted. ".

I checked out myself using all the names, handles, and phone numbers I could think of and nothing turned up. (WHEW!

[Dildo Baggens]

One more reason not to be on Facebook.


I found a pretty comprehensive article about the site: http://johntv.com/exposingjohns-com-exposed/.

Some interesting facts from the article:

"In reality the site works something like this. Fake ads for erotic massage, escort services, prostitution, dating, one night stands, etc. Are posted to websites like Backpage.com and Craigslist. The ads specifically request that you text the ad's author to contact them. When you send them a text even something as innocuous as "Hello" in response to an online ad is likely to get you highlighted on their website.

UPDATE: Many people are reporting that they were posted on ExposingJohns.com after responding to a non-adult ad (like for a used microwave or lawn mower). ".

And:

"The text message is captured as a screen grab and published as 'evidence' of solicitation of prostitution. If you have a social media presence on a site like Facebook, they grab a photo of you, along with your name and the phone number you used and post it to their website.

Reportedly, not long after your information is published on their website they begin sending texts to your phone encouraging you to pay one of several fees to have the information removed. This is where the extortion comes into play.

As shown in the graphic below (click for larger image), ExposingJohns.com would have those who appear on their site pay $195.97 all the way up to $495.97 to have their information deleted. ".

I checked out myself using all the names, handles, and phone numbers I could think of and nothing turned up. (WHEW!

[Christophe1]

Alright I've earned my membership. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10894-Los-Angeles-County-Asian-Providers&p=2274742&viewfull=1#post2274742

For awhile she was at my beck and call. Once she even hand fed me fries as we stood naked eating. The best part was how she dabbed the ketchup onto each frie bite. Dreams do come true. This from a women that no one else connected with. 2014 was a GREAT YEAR.

About a month ago she went to work in OC. Afterward she left to work in San Francisco. When she first got there she said, "Call me anytime. " For some reason, I decided to give her some room and didn't call her for days. I stupidly just sent a couple texts which she never responds to anyway(prefers to talk). Then a week ago I get The Letter in text form.

"I introduce you to new girl. You going to be ok?"

Ha ha ha. My ego was thinking how thoughtful as I replied, "No thanks. I just want you. " A couple days go by and I call. A couple rings and she sent me to voice mail. Ok busy I guess. A couple more days, BLOCKED.

No real explanation as to why. Did she quit. Find someone to take care of her. Get upset with me. Have a mental reset. This. That. Who knows?

Wish I would of bought her flowers and shared a few more intimate moments. Fairwell Happy Sad.

2015 Have been less than great. The way things have been going I'd probably be better sitting this one out.

[Zauriel]

Oh, Christophe! I am so sorry to hear this. I thought you two were perfect together. Her loss. You need to get some ice cream, watch Bridget Jones and have a good cry. You'll be okay.


Alright I've earned my membership. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10894-Los-Angeles-County-Asian-Providers&p=2274742&viewfull=1#post2274742

For awhile she was at my beck and call. Once she even hand fed me fries as we stood naked eating. The best part was how she dabbed the ketchup onto each frie bite. Dreams do come true. This from a women that no one else connected with. 2014 was a GREAT YEAR.

About a month ago she went to work in OC. Afterward she left to work in San Francisco. When she first got there she said, "Call me anytime. " For some reason, I decided to give her some room and didn't call her for days. I stupidly just sent a couple texts which she never responds to anyway(prefers to talk). Then a week ago I get The Letter in text form.

"I introduce you to new girl. You going to be ok?"

Ha ha ha. My ego was thinking how thoughtful as I replied, "No thanks. I just want you. " A couple days go by and I call. A couple rings and she sent me to voice mail. Ok busy I guess. A couple more days, BLOCKED.

No real explanation as to why. Did she quit. Find someone to take care of her. Get upset with me. Have a mental reset. This. That. Who knows?

Wish I would of bought her flowers and shared a few more intimate moments. Fairwell Happy Sad.

2015 Have been less than great. The way things have been going I'd probably be better sitting this one out.

[Socalimp]

It's part of the game. So is moving on.

I have had a couple of Providers go MIA. I learned the best way to cope with this is like the Hydra Mantra. If you cut off 1 head, 2 heads grow back in its place.


Alright I've earned my membership. http://www.usasexguide.info/forum/showthread.php?10894-Los-Angeles-County-Asian-Providers&p=2274742&viewfull=1#post2274742

For awhile she was at my beck and call. Once she even hand fed me fries as we stood naked eating. The best part was how she dabbed the ketchup onto each frie bite. Dreams do come true. This from a women that no one else connected with. 2014 was a GREAT YEAR.

About a month ago she went to work in OC. Afterward she left to work in San Francisco. When she first got there she said, "Call me anytime. " For some reason, I decided to give her some room and didn't call her for days. I stupidly just sent a couple texts which she never responds to anyway(prefers to talk). Then a week ago I get The Letter in text form.

"I introduce you to new girl. You going to be ok?"

Ha ha ha. My ego was thinking how thoughtful as I replied, "No thanks. I just want you. " A couple days go by and I call. A couple rings and she sent me to voice mail. Ok busy I guess. A couple more days, BLOCKED.

No real explanation as to why. Did she quit. Find someone to take care of her. Get upset with me. Have a mental reset. This. That. Who knows?

Wish I would of bought her flowers and shared a few more intimate moments. Fairwell Happy Sad.

2015 Have been less than great. The way things have been going I'd probably be better sitting this one out.

[Ddddan218]

OK, it is my understanding that as long as there was no money was exchanged, LEO cannot arrest johns.

LEO needs to lure johns to actually hand out the money and right at the moment, they can arrest you, right?

But recent sting operations got me paranoid.

Let's assume that I responded a craigslist ad from a girl and we discussed price for specific sex acts over text messages.

And then when we finally meet at a motel room, can they arrest me even before I handing out the money to her? (based on the fact that I promised to give her certain amount of money for certain sexual acts.).

I always thought LEO can only arrest johns after they handing out the money but I just want to be sure because someone mentioned that there's sting operations in craigslist.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

[Joelaro]

OK, it is my understanding that as long as there was no money was exchanged, LEO cannot arrest johns.

LEO needs to lure johns to actually hand out the money and right at the moment, they can arrest you, right?

But recent sting operations got me paranoid.

Let's assume that I responded a craigslist ad from a girl and we discussed price for specific sex acts over text messages.

And then when we finally meet at a motel room, can they arrest me even before I handing out the money to her? (based on the fact that I promised to give her certain amount of money for certain sexual acts.).

I always thought LEO can only arrest johns after they handing out the money but I just want to be sure because someone mentioned that there's sting operations in craigslist.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.Please don't believe anything you read on the internet. People who post responses to questions probably don't know any more about the subject than you do. (and that includes me). If a sting is in operation, LEO intends to scoop up customers. By any means necessary. If you stumble into a sting, it is your word against theirs--guess who wins?

[Marlowe]

OK, it is my understanding that as long as there was no money was exchanged, LEO cannot arrest johns.

LEO needs to lure johns to actually hand out the money and right at the moment, they can arrest you, right?

But recent sting operations got me paranoid.

Let's assume that I responded a craigslist ad from a girl and we discussed price for specific sex acts over text messages.

And then when we finally meet at a motel room, can they arrest me even before I handing out the money to her? (based on the fact that I promised to give her certain amount of money for certain sexual acts.).

I always thought LEO can only arrest johns after they handing out the money but I just want to be sure because someone mentioned that there's sting operations in craigslist.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.I don't know (IDK). As I have said several times, after various bad experiences, the rules of engagement seem to be changing. I, for one don't want to be the one who has to find out by going to court to see if it is admissible and / or evidence of a crime. Besides doesn't LE just lie if they really want to get you?

[Zauriel]

They can absolutely arrest johns if no money was exchanged. They may not get a conviction, but they certainly can arrest.


OK, it is my understanding that as long as there was no money was exchanged, LEO cannot arrest johns.

LEO needs to lure johns to actually hand out the money and right at the moment, they can arrest you, right?

But recent sting operations got me paranoid.

Let's assume that I responded a craigslist ad from a girl and we discussed price for specific sex acts over text messages.

And then when we finally meet at a motel room, can they arrest me even before I handing out the money to her? (based on the fact that I promised to give her certain amount of money for certain sexual acts.).

I always thought LEO can only arrest johns after they handing out the money but I just want to be sure because someone mentioned that there's sting operations in craigslist.

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

[Ddddan218]

Whoooa!

I think I have to retire from this game!

Getting arrested even without giving any money?

I can't believe this crap!

(I don't give any money until the completion of thorough LEO checks such as letting her squeeze my junior with her bare hand and let me suck on her tities for couple of seconds.).

Will that type of arrest (solicitation without actual money exchange: I. E. Just by texting her certain amount of money for certain actions) remain on my record?

What I mean is, even if I don't get convicted, will that arrest remain on my record and accessible to various agencies?

I'm asking this question because I'm a healthcare professional with active license.

If the review board of my profession found out about the arrest, my license can be suspended!

If this is the possibility, then I have to retire from this game for good because I cannot risk my livelihood.

Is there any SAFE way to play other than thorough LEO checks (which I am already doing)?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


They can absolutely arrest johns if no money was exchanged. They may not get a conviction, but they certainly can arrest.

[Steve4100]

Whoooa!

I think I have to retire from this game!

Getting arrested even without giving any money?

I can't believe this crap!

(I don't give any money until the completion of thorough LEO checks such as letting her squeeze my junior with her bare hand and let me suck on her tities for couple of seconds.).

Will that type of arrest (solicitation without actual money exchange: I. E. Just by texting her certain amount of money for certain actions) remain on my record?

What I mean is, even if I don't get convicted, will that arrest remain on my record and accessible to various agencies?

I'm asking this question because I'm a healthcare professional with active license.

If the review board of my profession found out about the arrest, my license can be suspended!

If this is the possibility, then I have to retire from this game for good because I cannot risk my livelihood.

Is there any SAFE way to play other than thorough LEO checks (which I am already doing)?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.Just watch Cops on TV and every arrest made is for the agreement of an unlawful event, no money ever exchanges hands. In Illinois where I live your mugshot is posted in the paper and on TV for everyone to see, even before you get to go to court. Oh and they tow your car. Those mugshots stay connected to your name for a long time, probably forever. All someone needs to do is Google your name and it will be on the 1st page or 2, unless you are lucky enough to have a very common name.

[Christophe1]

Oh, Christophe! I am so sorry to hear this. I thought you two were perfect together. Her loss. You need to get some ice cream, watch Bridget Jones and have a good cry. You'll be okay.


It's part of the game. So is moving on.

I have had a couple of Providers go MIA. I learned the best way to cope with this is like the Hydra Mantra. If you cut off 1 head, 2 heads grow back in its place.Thanks kindred spirits. That's why we need more Baldy Cruisers in this world. Look at what happens when I'm left to my own devices? I end up wanting to fall in love with hot Asian women and get my feelings bruised. I'm going to go to the beach, meet hot women in bikinis, and eat ice cream a la Venice Beach stylee.


OK, it is my understanding that as long as there was no money was exchanged, LEO cannot arrest johns.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfF8OSlGhKk

Don't risk it. Stick to safe places and recommendations by trusted members.

[Ddddan218]

Christophe1, thanks for your reply.

BTW, how risky is meeting non-pro girls off craigslist?

Does LEO posting ad on craigslist pretending to be a non-pro girl wanting some friends wit benefits / favor for favor arrangement?

Let's assume that, I replied to an ad by this non-pro, single mom (with 2 kids) some time ago and supposed to meet for the first time at a motel room in near future.

In this case, how risky do you think this is?

I mean, while I am waiting for her in a motel room, cops could forcefully enter the room and arrest me on the spot?

Am I being paranoid or craigslist for non-pro action is that risky?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.


Thanks kindred spirits. That's why we need more Baldy Cruisers in this world. Look at what happens when I'm left to my own devices? I end up wanting to fall in love with hot Asian women and get my feelings bruised. I'm going to go to the beach, meet hot women in bikinis, and eat ice cream a la Venice Beach stylee.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfF8OSlGhKk

Don't risk it. Stick to safe places and recommendations by trusted members.

[Dildo Baggens]

I think that's highly problematic from a LE perspective. The NP would have to be in on the sting and you're the only fish they can net. Kind of a big waste of resources just to get one guy, don't you think?

Baggens.


Christophe1, thanks for your reply.

BTW, how risky is meeting non-pro girls off craigslist?

Does LEO posting ad on craigslist pretending to be a non-pro girl wanting some friends wit benefits / favor for favor arrangement?

Let's assume that, I replied to an ad by this non-pro, single mom (with 2 kids) some time ago and supposed to meet for the first time at a motel room in near future.

In this case, how risky do you think this is?

I mean, while I am waiting for her in a motel room, cops could forcefully enter the room and arrest me on the spot?

Am I being paranoid or craigslist for non-pro action is that risky?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

[HollywoodGuy]

I think that's highly problematic from a LE perspective. The NP would have to be in on the sting and you're the only fish they can net. Kind of a big waste of resources just to get one guy, don't you think?

Baggens.This is why I stick to sugar daddy sites. Even there I have become paranoid. But I know its BS. I have used CL but I think the risk is low. Very low. For AMPs and escorts. Probably verifyably trusted girls are best.

[Marlowe]

I think that's highly problematic from a LE perspective. The NP would have to be in on the sting and you're the only fish they can net. Kind of a big waste of resources just to get one guy, don't you think?

Baggens.And running a 7 hour sting with 29 LE personnel to arrest 12 people on a track (LBB) that has been dead for four months isn't? I don't think that LE cares about the cost as long as they stay on this human trafficking kick.

[Ddddan218]

Thanks for your input.

Ok, so craigslist non-pro ad is relatively safer compared to other outlets?

I hope that is the case because I am very interested in this particular girl (single mom) from craigslist.


This is why I stick to sugar daddy sites. Even there I have become paranoid. But I know its BS. I have used CL but I think the risk is low. Very low. For AMPs and escorts. Probably verifyably trusted girls are best.

[HollywoodGuy]

Thanks for your input.

Ok, so craigslist non-pro ad is relatively safer compared to other outlets?

I hope that is the case because I am very interested in this particular girl (single mom) from craigslist.Don't worry. Be happy. LOL. But seriously, just go for it.

[Raider1206]

Thanks for your input.

Ok, so craigslist non-pro ad is relatively safer compared to other outlets?

I hope that is the case because I am very interested in this particular girl (single mom) from craigslist.Good luck with that single mom they are the best.

[Ddddan218]

Thanks for your encouragement!

Well, it was her who posted the ad on craigslist.

So I think, technically speaking, 'solicitation' might not apply on me since I was simply responding to her ad.

Anyway, she was cool and we chatted over KIK messenger for almost 1 hour on Saturday about pizza, foods, cooking, etc.

Plus, she said she swallows so it is really difficult to resist the temptation to see her despite of recent sting horrors.

I guess I am leaning toward seeing her.

My weakness is girls who swallow.

It seems I just cannot say no to girls who swallow. LOL.

Plus she agreed to drive 50 minutes to meet me (of course I am paying for her driving effort as well) so it is really difficult to say no.

I really hope that she's not some undercover cop.

Recent sting operations really made me super paranoid.

Then again, since her location is 50 miles from my place, I guess the chance of her being undercover cop is lower since cops would work under their jurisdiction and would not bother to arrest someone outside of their jurisdiction (I am not 100% sure about this. This is just my guess.).

Gosh, this hobby brings so much headache!


Don't worry. Be happy. LOL. But seriously, just go for it.

[Ddddan218]

Yes! I think single moms are the horniest.

I think many young girls are not experienced enough to fully please men.

I prefer girls with skills, not just looks.

And, it was her who posted the ad on craigslist.

So I think, technically speaking, 'solicitation' might not apply on me since I was simply responding to her ad.

Anyway, she was cool and we chatted over KIK messenger for almost 1 hour on Saturday about pizza, foods, cooking, etc.

Plus, she said she swallows so it is really difficult to resist the temptation to see her despite of recent sting horrors.

I guess I am leaning toward seeing her.

My weakness is girls who swallow.

It seems I just cannot say no to girls who swallow. LOL.

Plus she agreed to drive 50 minutes to meet me (of course I am paying for her driving effort as well) so it is really difficult to say no.

I really hope that she's not some undercover cop.

Recent sting operations really made me super paranoid.

Then again, since her location is 50 miles from my place, I guess the chance of her being undercover cop is lower since cops would work under their jurisdiction and would not bother to arrest someone outside of their jurisdiction (I am not 100% sure about this. This is just my guess.).

Gosh, this hobby brings so much headache!


Good luck with that single mom they are the best.

[Raider1206]

Yes! I think single moms are the horniest.

I think many young girls are not experienced enough to fully please men.

I prefer girls with skills, not just looks.

And, it was her who posted the ad on craigslist.

So I think, technically speaking, 'solicitation' might not apply on me since I was simply responding to her ad.

Anyway, she was cool and we chatted over KIK messenger for almost 1 hour on Saturday about pizza, foods, cooking, etc.

Plus, she said she swallows so it is really difficult to resist the temptation to see her despite of recent sting horrors.

I guess I am leaning toward seeing her.

My weakness is girls who swallow.

It seems I just cannot say no to girls who swallow. LOL.

Plus she agreed to drive 50 minutes to meet me (of course I am paying for her driving effort as well) so it is really difficult to say no.

I really hope that she's not some undercover cop.

Recent sting operations really made me super paranoid.

Then again, since her location is 50 miles from my place, I guess the chance of her being undercover cop is lower since cops would work under their jurisdiction and would not bother to arrest someone outside of their jurisdiction (I am not 100% sure about this. This is just my guess.).

Gosh, this hobby brings so much headache!I think your safe to see this one I mean if it was me I'd go for it. Good luck let us know how it goes. Just stay away from the streets and if possible stick to your little loyal circle of girls till shit cools down that's what I do and even if I hit the streets there are only 2-3 girls I'd pick up because I know they are cool and give me what I want.

[Ddddan218]

Last month, one sting operation arrested 570 johns and 408 of them were responded to fake backpage ad and 40 of them were 'responded to fake craigslist ad'.

Yes, 'craigslist ad'!

http://www.nola.com/news/index.ssf/2015/02/illinois_sheriff_posts_fake_ad.html

And according to the article, it seems they arrested johns after only the negotiation of the trading part (how much money for what sexual act) without actually handing out the money!

WTF!

Now I am scared to death!

[Dildo Baggens]

I can tell you from my experience, (Family members are LE). Most of these sting ops are about publicity with the media. Most media outlets aren't going to pick up on a story about 1 or 2 johns with a NP unless it's a extreme case of serial abuse or worse. Busting SW's and Johns always makes good print and pretty much gets a positive response from the community at large.

Baggens.


And running a 7 hour sting with 29 LE personnel to arrest 12 people on a track (LBB) that has been dead for four months isn't? I don't think that LE cares about the cost as long as they stay on this human trafficking kick.

[Dolato]

WTF!

Now I am scared to death!All forms of this hobby. Np, escorts, SW, sb. Carry a risk. There will always be medical, social, criminal risks involved. Best you can do is be smart and minimize those risks as much as you can. It's either that or find another hobby.

I'm personally terrified of picking up a SW. I've never done it, and don't feel comfortable enough to try it. It'd be interesting, but that's a risk I won't take.

I'm even a bit uneasy about an AMP. It sounds like a lot of fun, but rather than swimming into untested waters I stick to what I know.

Whatever you decide, stay safe and hope you have fun if you decide to play.

[Ddddan218]

I just had sex 1 hour ago and while I was anally penetrating this girl, my condom broke.

Also there was small amount of bleeding from her anus.

I freaked out, ran into the bathroom and wash my penis with a soap (but did not urinate immediately. I urinated just now, 1 hour after the exposure to the blood.).

She is NOT a pro and she said that she's clean and she always uses condom.

But I cannot take the risk.

Even without her knowledge, she'd be a HIV patient!

So I'm thinking of getting "HIV Post-exposure Prophylaxis Service" right away (either tonight or tomorrow morning since it is supposed to be done within 72 hours).

What do you guys think?

Also, is there any place you would recommend in or around downtown Los Angeles to get "HIV Post-exposure Prophylaxis Service"?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!

[Zman429]

I just had sex 1 hour ago and while I was anally penetrating this girl, my condom broke.

Also there was small amount of bleeding from her anus.

I freaked out, ran into the bathroom and wash my penis with a soap (but did not urinate immediately. I urinated just now, 1 hour after the exposure to the blood.).

She is NOT a pro and she said that she's clean and she always uses condom.

But I cannot take the risk.

Even without her knowledge, she'd be a HIV patient!

So I'm thinking of getting "HIV Post-exposure Prophylaxis Service" right away (either tonight or tomorrow morning since it is supposed to be done within 72 hours).

What do you guys think?

Also, is there any place you would recommend in or around downtown Los Angeles to get "HIV Post-exposure Prophylaxis Service"?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!Call your doctor / urgent care / er for this hopefully you can find an ER open late enough.

fyi there is an over the counter test called oraquick if you could find one and have her take it you might save yourself so sleepless nights.

[Dolato]

fyi there is an over the counter test called oraquick if you could find one and have her take it you might save yourself so sleepless nights.What he said about the otc test for hiv. If she's a np that you've been seeing, then ask her to take that test for your peace of mind. Maybe even comp her for it.

For what it's worth, the recipient is more likely to contract an sti / std.

For future meets, be sure to keep things lubricated during anal. There's much more friction that can cause breaks.

Good luck.

[Ddddan218]

I went to urgent care last night and got the prescription for 28 days HIV post-exposure prophylaxis medications.

I started taking them from this morning (20 hours after the exposure).

Oraquick sounds good.

I will talk to her about it (although not sure whether she'd follow it since she was very certain that she's 100% clean.).


Call your doctor / urgent care / er for this hopefully you can find an ER open late enough.

fyi there is an over the counter test called oraquick if you could find one and have her take it you might save yourself so sleepless nights.

[Ddddan218]

Thanks for the tip.

And lucky for her, she'd not get sti / std from me since I'm a healthcare professional and 100% clean (I work in the healthcare industry and I get regular check ups).

I hope I didn't get anything from her.


What he said about the otc test for hiv. If she's a np that you've been seeing, then ask her to take that test for your peace of mind. Maybe even comp her for it.

For what it's worth, the recipient is more likely to contract an sti / std.

For future meets, be sure to keep things lubricated during anal. There's much more friction that can cause breaks.

Good luck.

[Zman429]

Oraquick sounds good.

I will talk to her about it (although not sure whether she'd follow it since she was very certain that she's 100% clean.).I'd just get one and bring it with me sure she'd give you swab if you asked. They aren't that expensive.

[Ddddan218]

Yeah, I should buy that ASAP!


I'd just get one and bring it with me sure she'd give you swab if you asked. They aren't that expensive.

[Camaro2010]

I just had sex 1 hour ago and while I was anally penetrating this girl, my condom broke.

Also there was small amount of bleeding from her anus.

I freaked out, ran into the bathroom and wash my penis with a soap (but did not urinate immediately. I urinated just now, 1 hour after the exposure to the blood.).

She is NOT a pro and she said that she's clean and she always uses condom.

But I cannot take the risk.

Even without her knowledge, she'd be a HIV patient!

So I'm thinking of getting "HIV Post-exposure Prophylaxis Service" right away (either tonight or tomorrow morning since it is supposed to be done within 72 hours).

What do you guys think?

Also, is there any place you would recommend in or around downtown Los Angeles to get "HIV Post-exposure Prophylaxis Service"?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks!What I would do is be super cool with the chick and very tactfully try to talk her into going with you so she can get tested too. I would put on an oscar worthy perfomance and just feed her lines to get her to get go. Don't rely on her word alone. Even if you have to come out of pocket to get her to go. Would be worth peace of mind.

[MartyBreger]

Anyone have any info on the availability of working girls on cruise ships out of Long Beach? Any help would be appreciated.

[Bronsonator]

Anyone have any info on the availability of working girls on cruise ships out of Long Beach? Any help would be appreciated.LBC is fulla p4 p. The cruise ships, I don't know, but I bet if you pay for their trip, you can get most to go with you. See, problem solved.

[Ddddan218]

Thank you for the great advice.

But it seems she's pretty much adamant about her being clean.

Either way, I am going to finish this 28 day post exposure medications.

The chance is low but still, I don't want to take any risk.


What I would do is be super cool with the chick and very tactfully try to talk her into going with you so she can get tested too. I would put on an oscar worthy perfomance and just feed her lines to get her to get go. Don't rely on her word alone. Even if you have to come out of pocket to get her to go. Would be worth peace of mind.

[Rohan Cid]

If this question is in the wrong thread, let me know. Does anyone know of any Viet coffee shops in the Los Angeles area that are anything like the ones in the OC? I've been to Guangzhou Café in Garden Grove and I liked the place and am hoping for something like it closer to home.

[Willie23]

If this question is in the wrong thread, let me know. Does anyone know of any Viet coffee shops in the Los Angeles area that are anything like the ones in the OC? I've been to Guangzhou Caf in Garden Grove and I liked the place and am hoping for something like it closer to home.Funny. I drove past Miss Saigon yesterday and was thinking the same thing: something in LA, but maybe without all the patrons smoking. I've looked for a while, but I've seen nothing like that outside of Garbage Grove. Maybe if I win the lottery, I'll set one up. .

[Jack Reacher]

If this question is in the wrong thread, let me know. Does anyone know of any Viet coffee shops in the Los Angeles area that are anything like the ones in the OC? I've been to Guangzhou Caf in Garden Grove and I liked the place and am hoping for something like it closer to home.Cafe Lotus in Gardena.

https://www.facebook.com/cafelotus310?ref=profile

[Ddddan218]

I got a call from the clinic that I did blood test after that broken condom incident.

The result is negative for everything (HIV and all the known STD).

I was certain that she had no disease but I still had to take the blood test because I don't like to take any risk.

This is a good news but still, from now on, I will try to use 2 condoms on my dick.

I heard about it but never tried it.

But since this incident really scared me, I will give it a try. LOL.

[Ddddan218]

I think some of us have been active on sugar daddy date sites and I have a question regarding that.

I am a member of SugarDaddyForMe site and have been talking to several girls over there.

I have not met anyone yet but there are 2 chicks who I might meet in the very near future.

Both of them are strippers with nice body.

But the funny thing is, each of them asked me to meet at the same local shopping mall (Cerritos Mall).

And one chick told me to help her shopping over there when we meet and then she will have sex with me afterward.

But that sounds like a huge red flag to me.

I think, most likely scenario in this case is, the stripper chick made me pay for all her shopping and then would not honor her words about having sex part.

I mean, basic 101 of business is the swap of goods and services and if I paid someone beforehand in the form of shopping (even before we get into the motel room), an unethical person would ignore her part of the deal.

So it smells like a setup to rip me off.

What do you think?

What should be my best move?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

[JParkLa]

I wouldn't use two condoms if I were you. I thought the same that if you wear two condoms that it would give more protection. However, I heard it increases the chances for breakage. Supposedly the two condoms rubbing creates friction which leads to a higher chance of breakage. Just FYI.


I got a call from the clinic that I did blood test after that broken condom incident.

The result is negative for everything (HIV and all the known STD).

I was certain that she had no disease but I still had to take the blood test because I don't like to take any risk.

This is a good news but still, from now on, I will try to use 2 condoms on my dick.

I heard about it but never tried it.

But since this incident really scared me, I will give it a try. LOL.

[Marlowe]

I think some of us have been active on sugar daddy date sites and I have a question regarding that.

I am a member of SugarDaddyForMe site and have been talking to several girls over there.

I have not met anyone yet but there are 2 chicks who I might meet in the very near future.

Both of them are strippers with nice body.

But the funny thing is, each of them asked me to meet at the same local shopping mall (Cerritos Mall).

And one chick told me to help her shopping over there when we meet and then she will have sex with me afterward.

But that sounds like a huge red flag to me.

I think, most likely scenario in this case is, the stripper chick made me pay for all her shopping and then would not honor her words about having sex part.

I mean, basic 101 of business is the swap of goods and services and if I paid someone beforehand in the form of shopping (even before we get into the motel room), an unethical person would ignore her part of the deal.

So it smells like a setup to rip me off.

What do you think?

What should be my best move?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.If it were me, I would meet her, get to know her, and see if I felt a comfort level with her, and if so, I would go shopping with her, and expect that she would do as promised. It isn't good to assume that everyone of these girls is an asshole, looking to rip us off, though some in this forum expose that theory. If she seems phony, you can always leave.

[Orion1938]

If it were me, I would meet her, get to know her, and see if I felt a comfort level with her, and if so, I would go shopping with her, and expect that she would do as promised. It isn't good to assume that everyone of these girls is an asshole, looking to rip us off, though some in this forum expose that theory. If she seems phony, you can always leave.I would hold the purchases and give them to her after the deed.

"A bird in hand is worth two in a Bush. " Just pays to use logic.

Let us know how it went. "Nothing ventured, nothing gained. ".

Be safe.

[Clicker619]

I got a call from the clinic that I did blood test after that broken condom incident.

The result is negative for everything (HIV and all the known STD).

I was certain that she had no disease but I still had to take the blood test because I don't like to take any risk.

This is a good news but still, from now on, I will try to use 2 condoms on my dick.

I heard about it but never tried it.

But since this incident really scared me, I will give it a try. LOL.Don't use two condoms at once. More lube is your solution. Lube your covered tool, lube the outside and inside of her hole. After you get in, pull out and lube some more.

[HollywoodGuy]

I think some of us have been active on sugar daddy date sites and I have a question regarding that.

I am a member of SugarDaddyForMe site and have been talking to several girls over there.

I have not met anyone yet but there are 2 chicks who I might meet in the very near future.

Both of them are strippers with nice body.

But the funny thing is, each of them asked me to meet at the same local shopping mall (Cerritos Mall).

And one chick told me to help her shopping over there when we meet and then she will have sex with me afterward.

But that sounds like a huge red flag to me.

I think, most likely scenario in this case is, the stripper chick made me pay for all her shopping and then would not honor her words about having sex part.

I mean, basic 101 of business is the swap of goods and services and if I paid someone beforehand in the form of shopping (even before we get into the motel room), an unethical person would ignore her part of the deal.

So it smells like a setup to rip me off.

What do you think?

What should be my best move?

Any input would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.Never ever pay up front. Period.

[Fitibikeco]

Of course RED FLAG, Like HollywoodGuy say NEVER pay up front.


Never ever pay up front. Period.

[Dolato]

I think some of us have been active on sugar daddy date sites and I have a question regarding that.
I know others have already chimed in, but just throwing my 2 cents.

If they're strippers, they're already well versed in the art of separating a man from his dollars.

Read through the sugar babies threads in the la pages or the richmond, va. There's not much new we can add here that hasn't already been covered.

And congrats on the negs on the test.

[Marlowe]

I know others have already chimed in, but just throwing my 2 cents.

If they're strippers, they're already well versed in the art of separating a man from his dollars.

Read through the sugar babies threads in the la pages or the richmond, va. There's not much new we can add here that hasn't already been covered.

And congrats on the negs on the test.So how many of these "sugarbabies" are actually strippers? Some of these sites act like they are sweet college girls looking to make some $ on the side. Is this just a big scam?

[Ddddan218]

Thanks for the answer.

Yeah, and I am planning to carry a bottle of quality lubricant myself as well. .


I wouldn't use two condoms if I were you. I thought the same that if you wear two condoms that it would give more protection. However, I heard it increases the chances for breakage. Supposedly the two condoms rubbing creates friction which leads to a higher chance of breakage. Just FYI.

[Ddddan218]

Thanks for the input.

Yeah, maybe there are few strippers who are not an asshole.

Maybe I should just have a coffee or meal with her first before doing anything else.


If it were me, I would meet her, get to know her, and see if I felt a comfort level with her, and if so, I would go shopping with her, and expect that she would do as promised. It isn't good to assume that everyone of these girls is an asshole, looking to rip us off, though some in this forum expose that theory. If she seems phony, you can always leave.

[Ddddan218]

Yeah, that sounds less risky for sure.

Thanks for the input!


I would hold the purchases and give them to her after the deed.

"A bird in hand is worth two in a Bush. " Just pays to use logic.

Let us know how it went. "Nothing ventured, nothing gained. ".

Be safe.

[Ddddan218]

Thanks for the input.

Yes, I will definitely carry the best lubricant myself whenever I meet a girl.


Don't use two condoms at once. More lube is your solution. Lube your covered tool, lube the outside and inside of her hole. After you get in, pull out and lube some more.

[Ddddan218]

Thanks for the advice.

Yes, that does make sense.

They would not have any incentive if they get paid first.


Never ever pay up front. Period.

[Ddddan218]

Thank you for the advice!


Of course RED FLAG, Like HollywoodGuy say NEVER pay up front.

[Ddddan218]

Thanks for the input.

Yes, I am starting to read sugar babies threads and it is really informative.

I am planning to read up all the posts there to catch up.


I know others have already chimed in, but just throwing my 2 cents.

If they're strippers, they're already well versed in the art of separating a man from his dollars.

Read through the sugar babies threads in the la pages or the richmond, va. There's not much new we can add here that hasn't already been covered.

And congrats on the negs on the test.

[Ddddan218]

I have joined sugardaddyforme site couple days ago and sent out around 25 messages and received around 60 70 messages and kisses from girls.

But when I looked into it, a lot of girls who approached me first, appeared to be either strippers or straight up pros.

Not sure what to think yet but there are many strippers in that site for sure.


So how many of these "sugarbabies" are actually strippers? Some of these sites act like they are sweet college girls looking to make some $ on the side. Is this just a big scam?

[HollywoodGuy]

So how many of these "sugarbabies" are actually strippers? Some of these sites act like they are sweet college girls looking to make some $ on the side. Is this just a big scam?The number of college girls / regular girls far outnumber the strippers / utr's and pros. But it seems SA is far "cleaner" than SD4M.

[CreamyBare]

The number of college girls / regular girls far outnumber the strippers / utr's and pros. But it seems SA is far "cleaner" than SD4M.I found the opposite. SA seems to have a greater number of unrealistic girls, and a higher "scam" content. SDFM has that too, but I found more (many) "normal" girls on SDFM. Just my experience.

[Gpc1085]

Looking for info on a BSW I could have sworn I read about on here a while back!? But then again maybe I saw her on backpage or SFRB when that was around up in Northern CA / The Bay Area more so.

Anyways.

I know it's a shot in the dark but maybe you regulars know. She has a distinct identifying trait. A huge tattoo written "Beautiful T" I believe written with like a spider web like thingy just above her huge (at least the sized breast maybe bigger). Fairly dark for the most part BSW. About idk. 5'6 average height in heels. A little bit of a gut but overall not bad looking at all. I know that's kind of vague but. It's the best I can give you. The tattoo should garner a hit one would think though. She wasn't the one that robbed you Marlowe couple months back was she!? In that hummer with the other BSW fronting as cops!? I know this BSW looked ridiculous familiar from somewhere, but for the life of me I just couldn't figure out from where. Thanks all.

[Marlowe]

Looking for info on a BSW I could have sworn I read about on here a while back!? But then again maybe I saw her on backpage or SFRB when that was around up in Northern CA / The Bay Area more so.

Anyways.

I know it's a shot in the dark but maybe you regulars know. She has a distinct identifying trait. A huge tattoo written "Beautiful T" I believe written with like a spider web like thingy just above her huge (at least the sized breast maybe bigger). Fairly dark for the most part BSW. About idk. 5'6 average height in heels. A little bit of a gut but overall not bad looking at all. I know that's kind of vague but. It's the best I can give you. The tattoo should garner a hit one would think though. She wasn't the one that robbed you Marlowe couple months back was she!? In that hummer with the other BSW fronting as cops!? I know this BSW looked ridiculous familiar from somewhere, but for the life of me I just couldn't figure out from where. Thanks all.No, that wasn't her, unless she was the driver, who was fully clothed so I don't know if she had a tattoo or not. BTW, did anyone ever hear anything else about the two girls that were arrested for impersonating cops, or was that just another LE fishing expedition? Anyway, it was a white Rav4, not a Hummer.

[Christophe1]

Met this friendly beauty a year ago and she finally came back to LA for a little R & R. Took her all over and spent some replenishing time together. I was mesmerized by those eyes. Loved licking those legs all the way up to the Y. My my my.

[MikeFandango]

Met this friendly beauty a year ago and she finally came back to LA for a little R & R. Took her all over and spent some replenishing time together. I was mesmerized by those eyes. Loved licking those legs all the way up to the Y. My my my.A beauty, enjoy buddy.

[Tipisil]

Met this friendly beauty a year ago and she finally came back to LA for a little R & R. Took her all over and spent some replenishing time together. I was mesmerized by those eyes. Loved licking those legs all the way up to the Y. My my my.Wow. Any way you want to let others show her around town?

[Jak Hammer]

Weird how so many of the female Asians are cock eyed! Some even get spunk eyed!

[TW978]

Met this friendly beauty a year ago and she finally came back to LA for a little R & R. Took her all over and spent some replenishing time together. I was mesmerized by those eyes. Loved licking those legs all the way up to the Y. My my my.What a gentleman and a nice tour guide!

[Christophe1]

In the book with a man and some money who loved women...

Call me Mr. Moneybag.

Women love making money. What they love even more than making money is ____ SHOPPING!!!

I finally connected with a woman in a very deep and meaningful way. I asked her what she likes?

"Making money."

Okay..., but what do you love... What's your passion...

It hit me. (IT*) was deep, it was meaningful... It was spiritual as I dissolved into knowing myself within my core.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Ftvr7xzS7Y

Fucking Yeaaaaahhh!

[Samu Ray]

Is there a thread like "My red Book" or something similar with reviews on working girls?

Yes, it's called the USA Sex Guide and it has threads from cities all over the country. You just posted on it for the 3rd time in 11 years.

Just saying,

A2

[FunTrust]

Is there a thread like "My red Book" or something similar with reviews on working girls?

Yes, it's called the USA Sex Guide and it has threads from cities all over the country. You just posted on it for the 3rd time in 11 years.

Just saying,

A2I once heard a story about a guy who took a sex ed class. Finally he meets a hot girl who says put it in, but use a condom. He says yes, reaches in his pocket grabs a condom, puts it on a banana and sticks the banana in her snatch. She came, he didn't.

Sounds like this could be the guy. Just saying.

[Samu Ray]

Why does anybody takes the time to answer something he thinks is unworthy?

[Dolato]

Why does anybody takes the time to answer something he thinks is unworthy?For everyone else's enjoyment. Welcome to the internet.

[Willie23]

Why does anybody takes the time to answer something he thinks is unworthy?Because we were all noobs once and we are carrying on the tradition of noob abuse as an initiation process.

[Appius]

Hi I have been away and would like to hook up again with gangbang groups in the Los Angeles area. One group, The_view4 you, does not seem to exist and more.

Any suggestions?

[Tipisil]

Hi I have been away and would like to hook up again with gangbang groups in the Los Angeles area. One group, The_view4 you, does not seem to exist and more.

Any suggestions?The group is still around. They tend to have parties during the weekends. I have never gone to one though but I am part of the yahoo group.

[Rohan Cid]

The group is still around. They tend to have parties during the weekends. I have never gone to one though but I am part of the yahoo group.Their parties are mostly in the San Fernando area and mostly at night. A couple of other options are the sneak easy hedonistic society and the love shack. Search them on google and you will find the info you need.

[BCSteel10]

Never ever pay up front. Period.Yup never pay you will find yourself looking like Duh! What happen.

[Marlowe]

Yup never pay you will find yourself looking like Duh! What happen.I guess this is one of the most popular YMMV topics. I have rarely dated a girl that didn't demand to be paid up front, and have rarely been ripped off. Some girls after you have dated them a number of times will tell you to just pay them when you are done, but it's the exception, not the rule.

[Animal01]

Has anyone here fucked a midget? I've tried looking for one but no luck.

Can someone help? Thanks.

[Appius]

.... the sneak easy hedonistic society and the love shack.....The sneak easy hedonistic society is having a party this Friday. Have you been to any of these? If so a report please?

[Deerom]

Has anyone here fucked a midget? I've tried looking for one but no luck.

Can someone help? Thanks.It's on my bucket list. Have had then down to about 4'9" but not a real midget. Going to start looking for one.

[Watnow78]

A Korean girl who sometimes works in LA. I haven't seen her post in a long while.

http://www.adultfax.com/losangeles/escort/reviews/ling-ling/3067

http://myscarletbook.com/san%20jose/510-393-2474/

Good Luck!!

[CreamyBare]

This girl is reported as an undercover cop. I have this information second hand. It sounded more like she was a ROB, but at any rate, use caution.

http://la.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-love-2-please-let-me-and-my-36dds-help-you-start-your-day-right-incall-specials/49682246

[AnalPlay09]

I was approached by a well known white girl while walking in the Tenderloin district on San Fran. She was tiny. I was tempted, I figured mathematically it might make me feel like John Holmes.


It's on my bucket list. Have had then down to about 4'9" but not a real midget. Going to start looking for one.

[ChrisPoontang]

This girl is reported as an undercover cop. I have this information second hand. It sounded more like she was a ROB, but at any rate, use caution.

http://la.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-love-2-please-let-me-and-my-36dds-help-you-start-your-day-right-incall-specials/49682246She is not a cop! Her and her loser boyfriend have been posting on craigslist and backpage for some time.

I actually saw a posting in the casual section of craigslist where they were looking to "exchange" for a night on someones couch because they were broke.

A rob, very possible. A cop, no chance.

[Member #5794]

This girl is reported as an undercover cop. I have this information second hand. It sounded more like she was a ROB, but at any rate, use caution.

http://la.backpage.com/FemaleEscorts/i-love-2-please-let-me-and-my-36dds-help-you-start-your-day-right-incall-specials/49682246I almost saw this gal! She is impaired. I called her and set up a one oclock in a rather odd part of town for this stuff. But, I like going to this part of town during the day as there is a watch store I am addicted to there. So I get to her area around 1, start calling and it was endless google voice no answer, no message set up, no contact. I think I waited until 1:30 and she called me and said her service was no good. I assume she is either retarded or was sucking a dick for a half hour. She asks if I am still interested, and I say I am in my car heading east, but will she do a half hour. She says not really and I would need to buy party hats. Waste of time. If she is a cop, g-the help us as she could not bust al capone.

[Member #5794]

Has anyone here fucked a midget? I've tried looking for one but no luck.

Can someone help? Thanks.I once saw a midget take a shit, does that interest you.

[Grebo Guru]

Has anyone here fucked a midget? I've tried looking for one but no luck.

Can someone help? Thanks.Yeah, this one hits town from time to time. Here's her TER link:

I've considered it. I've wanted it. Just price / service ration didn't agree with me.

https://www.theeroticreview.com/reviews/show.asp?id=222477

[Christophe1]

Guys,

I got a confession to make, I got a case of the GDS. I know I should of been more careful, but what was I to do?

If 80% of the guys are chasing after 5% of the easy pickings called providers, that leaves a whole bunch of other women to be chasing after us while only using ourselves as bait. Because of that I developed a strong case of the Golden Dick Syndrome (GDS) and now I don't want to waste my time with just any chick who's giving up her pussy for free. Talk about issues. Too many crazy sex fiends!

As one lady asked, "What... Are you playing hard to get?"

Me: Who's playing?

I just don't want to meet any crazy fucks. My life is too good to mess with crazies.

Peace.

[ImGuyGadBois]

Are the girls on this site legit? I don't live in the area, but visit from time to time. I've tried contacting 2 or 3 and never get a response. Are they for real?

http://www.platinumphotomodels.com/

[IsopMan]

Oh my. The perfect cum dumpster for you lerkers on a budget. . I was able to do BB BBBJ Facial Anal. She was Thick. But a * indeed. No ways of transportation you would have to meet up with her and what luck she lives near the Fig / Gage area. I took a few pics I also fisted her too.

If getting a rock off is what you are looking for then she's your girl. If you are looking for 10+ in looks keep searching.

Inbox me for what she hit me up for I will give #. But only if you are a real member that has post. None of that 2 post stuff either. You must be some kind of contributor.

[The Tall Man]

Oh my. The perfect cum dumpster for you lerkers on a budget. . I was able to do BB BBBJ Facial Anal. She was Thick. But a * indeed. No ways of transportation you would have to meet up with her and what luck she lives near the Fig / Gage area. I took a few pics I also fisted her too.

If getting a rock off is what you are looking for then she's your girl. If you are looking for 10+ in looks keep searching.

Inbox me for what she hit me up for I will give #. But only if you are a real member that has post. None of that 2 post stuff either. You must be some kind of contributor.What?? I guess to each its own.

By the size of her it looks that you can not only fist her but foot & leg her too.

The Tall Man.

[IsopMan]

What?? I guess to each its own.

By the size of her it looks that you can not only fist her but foot & leg her too.

The Tall Man.Like it said. It your are looking for a 10+ she's not the one. But if you looking to get rocks off then she was perfect. I thought this post was to share info not ridicule selection. It was simple in the past. See something you like get info. Have info to share comment.

But I see some of us still don't understand the game of married men.

[ChrisPoontang]

Like it said. It your are looking for a 10+ she's not the one. But if you looking to get rocks off then she was perfect. I thought this post was to share info not ridicule selection. It was simple in the past. See something you like get info. Have info to share comment.

But I see some of us still don't understand the game of married men.I know there are tons of guys dying to DATY her.

Seriously, there are guys that will try to break their tongue off on her.

She is not my type but she is for someone.

[Raider1206]

Like it said. It your are looking for a 10+ she's not the one. But if you looking to get rocks off then she was perfect. I thought this post was to share info not ridicule selection. It was simple in the past. See something you like get info. Have info to share comment.

But I see some of us still don't understand the game of married men.Exactly if it's not your type keep moving no need to put someone else down because you don't like it. She's not really my type but hey fuck it you had a good time and got your nut off which is what it's all about.

[Chris Wake]

I am so tired of having mediocre to disappointing sessions. Even after doing the due diligence for decent looking women who offer GFE, I have had a streak of less than thrilling encounters. Yeah, my expectations are high for a guy who wishes to spend at the most 150. Maybe I've become an ogre in my middle age. I'm especially over being told "you've already been here 30 minutes" after I know it's been only 15. Perhaps it's time I took another break. I've spent probably 700 bucks the last few months looking for something that I'm not having luck finding. That figure and ratio are unacceptable. I wish I had more $ to spend. And a willingness to drive to OC and the IE. Although I did go to OC to see a provider who had great reviews and it was "eh." Totally not worth it. Does anyone remember Chelly in the IE? That's what I'm looking for. Only in LA. Or Terry Lynn in Beverly Hills? Man, she was great. Anyway, I've had a few glasses of whisky and am frustrated so I'm venting. Happy hunting fellows.I remember Chelly, back in 09 when she first appeared via Mr Parlor I had the privilege of being one of her first clients in the IE in her comfy home. Down to earth girl with an incredibly sharp head on her shoulders. Beautiful and knowledgeable of pop culture to boot. If she weren't a provider, or if I were looking to settle down, she'd be a perfect template of a woman you can spend the rest of your life with. Unfortunately I also had the distinction of being her last client in Oct 2012 before she had to retreat to Florida for a family issue. Haven't seen / heard from her since. All the providers I've seen since then do not compare to the weekly experiences with Chelly.

3 Years later hoping to see her again. Always keep my eye on the subscriptions page hoping her page updates on HX.