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Ptown24
01-12-25, 10:40
Spent some time in the military and plenty brought working girls or flat out poor women back from their respective countries and 9/10 ended up miserable. Know who few guys who fell for providers here stateside and ended up broke and hurt. Working girls are for recreational use only! You can always play the part like you're going to rescue her her from the life, take her on dates and hit for free, but do not get it twisted for one minute! You're just a john to her at the end of the day and even if she does develop real feelings for you, are you ready to take full financial responsibility for a woman with no skillset who will be full dependent on you? All the money you will save on her house fee and tip will be quickly ate up by all the extra cost of saving that broad LOL. She sucks and fucks for a living. Have your fun and leave her where she's at my man. Like the old saying goes, can't turn a hoe into a housewife my man!By looking at those stats, it sounds more financially responsible to rent, rather than own. Killer response, puts everything into context perfectly. The little head will make you think like an idiot sometimes and alcohol doesn't help much either LOL. Don't wife up the neighborhood bicycle, just wait your turn.

VinDrake
01-12-25, 12:37
That we all need to review from time to time, no matter how long we've been at it.100 percent. Some real connections might be made in the process but we have to look out for our own long term interests. But fun to day dream every now and then.

BKane80
01-12-25, 13:26
Spent some time in the military and plenty brought working girls or flat out poor women back from their respective countries and 9/10 ended up miserable. Know who few guys who fell for providers here stateside and ended up broke and hurt. Working girls are for recreational use only! You can always play the part like you're going to rescue her her from the life, take her on dates and hit for free, but do not get it twisted for one minute! You're just a john to her at the end of the day and even if she does develop real feelings for you, are you ready to take full financial responsibility for a woman with no skillset who will be full dependent on you? All the money you will save on her house fee and tip will be quickly ate up by all the extra cost of saving that broad LOL. She sucks and fucks for a living. Have your fun and leave her where she's at my man. Like the old saying goes, can't turn a hoe into a housewife my man!
That we all need to review from time to time, no matter how long we've been at it.Unfortunately, no matter how many times this is reviewed, there will always be those guys who think they are the unicorn.

MaximusKahn
01-16-25, 11:22
Unfortunately, no matter how many times this is reviewed, there will always be those guys who think they are the unicorn.Many guys want to be the white night, the savior, the hero who saves the damsel in distress.

Or he just plain old falls in love. IMHO, very rarely is there anything good at the end of this road.

Ptown24
01-21-25, 12:55
Has anyone ever encountered a pregnant AMP provider? Any stories or intel would be appreciated. Thanks boys.

ArrogantBstrd
01-27-25, 20:05
How often do you guys think that mongers fall for providers? Meaning, I can save her and she will be mine, and only mine. It's easy money for these girls and they're good at seducing guys. Only reason I ask, is because I met up with one the other day and my mind went wild thinking if I could hit it every day without paying a hefty price, then and only then, would it be worth it. Money flows for these girls, it comes too easy for them. Unless they need citizenship, I doubt they're going to stop their hustle for some guy with good dick. Her moans weren't too dramatic, and she seemed to like the session, so maybe I have a shot boys LOL. Just curious if you gentlemen have ever heard of guys pulling providers, it would be interesting to hear any stories. I could deal with only using a translator app instead of conversating haha.Working women are working for something. If you can provide that woman with the same kind of money that she made without you, then good on you! It might work out! However; don't ever think that she'll just submit to your wits and charm. You have to have money to show for it.

I rolled with a sugar baby before. Family Practitioner. $150 K+/ annual easily. If you can't provide for their lifestyle, don't get into a relationship. You're not her only client.

MaximusKahn
01-28-25, 09:46
Mongers are starting to post about getting serious with a provider to maker her all their own. Don't forget, it's the money that brough you two together.

I found that the women you see for a while will eventually start hinting they would "need" more money. Some ask out right. Some just hint. They need money for sick family, an important trip home, a car repair bill, their canary needs an operation. Even if they call it a loan, don't do it. If your refusal changed her enthusiasm in your sessions, time to dump her.

Not long ago, one of my regulars started emphasizing how she appreciates me "taking care of her", and by the end of the session, how sick her mother is and that she doesn't have enough money to help. Things are to slow at the spa.

I'm going to see how the next session goes, and if she's less fun, and the "hints" continue, she is about to be rotated out. There are more where she came from. I'm not being harsh, I'm being real. I'm willing to pay for what I get, not the extra luxuries for her lifestyle.

Fonmyj
01-28-25, 17:52
Mongers are starting to post about getting serious with a provider to maker her all their own. Don't forget, it's the money that brough you two together.

I found that the women you see for a while will eventually start hinting they would "need" more money. Some ask out right. Some just hint. They need money for sick family, an important trip home, a car repair bill, their canary needs an operation. Even if they call it a loan, don't do it. If your refusal changed her enthusiasm in your sessions, time to dump her.

Not long ago, one of my regulars started emphasizing how she appreciates me "taking care of her", and by the end of the session, how sick her mother is and that she doesn't have enough money to help. Things are to slow at the spa.

I'm going to see how the next session goes, and if she's less fun, and the "hints" continue, she is about to be rotated out. There are more where she came from. I'm not being harsh, I'm being real. I'm willing to pay for what I get, not the extra luxuries for her lifestyle.Great advice. I know a few women who reach out asking how I'm doing and if I respond they'll hit me up with a sob story. I learned to start looking for their ads to be up and recently active in my area before responding. Many times they're not even in the area and are fishing for an electronic "loan" or help. Never asked but I seriously doubt they'd be willing to let me hit it on credit, even if I was in a financial pickle.

TurnOvah
01-29-25, 08:03
Ask them to get a freebie because you are close enough for her to ask for a loan or give them a so. Story and you just need a session to get you through. Then you will never here from them again. It works perfectly everytime.


Great advice. I know a few women who reach out asking how I'm doing and if I respond they'll hit me up with a sob story. I learned to start looking for their ads to be up and recently active in my area before responding. Many times they're not even in the area and are fishing for an electronic "loan" or help. Never asked but I seriously doubt they'd be willing to let me hit it on credit, even if I was in a financial pickle..

Cram1904
02-17-25, 22:34
Any of you mongers keep track of how many of these ladies you've seen?

I entered the new year a single man, so I've been at it pretty steady. So far I'm at 25 since the new year LOL, anyone else keeping track of numbers?

BluesBalls
02-18-25, 10:52
Any of you mongers keep track of how many of these ladies you've seen?

I entered the new year a single man, so I've been at it pretty steady. So far I'm at 25 since the new year LOL, anyone else keeping track of numbers?I stopped counting many years ago and I'm not an old man. I don't even want to know anymore.

I only remember certain experiences now, I don't remember the girls anymore.

I was hoping to use this site as a kind of tracker and diary but didn't really work out that way.

Mad Gypsy
02-18-25, 13:27
Great advice. I know a few women who reach out asking how I'm doing and if I respond they'll hit me up with a sob story. I learned to start looking for their ads to be up and recently active in my area before responding. Many times they're not even in the area and are fishing for an electronic "loan" or help. Never asked but I seriously doubt they'd be willing to let me hit it on credit, even if I was in a financial pickle.Many times its not the girl asking but the manager.

Plasma Spray
02-18-25, 13:52
Try fucking the mom! LOL!.


I'm not much in to trainwrecks, especially if I'm on the train.

To get a woman on the hate train fucking her roommate is pretty good. Fucking her best friend is better. And if you really want to get her fury, fuck her sister..

AsianMax
03-24-25, 11:53
Could guys in the Asian section talk about girls who are actually in San Diego.

Maybe you could start a new section for where are they now or I remember this one hot chick.

It would really be helpful to read about the ladies who are actually in San Diego.

Trusty Hairlip
03-24-25, 22:15
Could guys in the Asian section talk about girls who are actually in San Diego.

Maybe you could start a new section for where are they now or I remember this one hot chick.

It would really be helpful to read about the ladies who are actually in San Diego.Just do some searches in the section for ladies who show up and hopefully you find some matches. It is difficult for me to post about all the ladies I see as I have a job that keeps me busy and I am not going to post from my work network.

Anyway, your point is a good one.

The ladies in town right now I recommend Allie, Seri, Sienna, Viki, Naomi in that order. There are reviews of all these ladies in the Asian forum, just do a search.

Trusty Hairlip
03-24-25, 22:20
Any of you mongers keep track of how many of these ladies you've seen?

I entered the new year a single man, so I've been at it pretty steady. So far I'm at 25 since the new year LOL, anyone else keeping track of numbers?Hmmm, I've been doing this since around 2007 or so. I think I can safely say I've been with 250 to 300 ladies. I started back when SDASP was a thing, then HX.

My recommendation is to not keep track of these details. You'll wind up with someone finding it and then having to discuss or answer questions. Best keep things to yourself and not leave a trail. Speaking from experience here.

Ddy3831
03-24-25, 23:18
Could guys in the Asian section talk about girls who are actually in San Diego.

Maybe you could start a new section for where are they now or I remember this one hot chick.

It would really be helpful to read about the ladies who are actually in San Diego.That thread has plenty of info on currently residing ladies or even perspective ones. Maybe dig a little bit.

MaximusKahn
03-29-25, 11:10
I agree with Trusty Hairlip, it's best to keep things to yourself. Maybe not today but some day someone you don't want to see it may stumble on it. Women are natural snoops and have a weird way of finding things you thought we're well hidden, or out of the way.

To answer your question about numbers. I have no idea how many I've been with, an haven't tracked to thought about a number with either personal sex or provider sex. I'm not sure how many races or ethnicities I've been with. I'm just in it for the fun.

I'd also suggest scrubbing your computer from searches and web sits you may visit. Use a non tracking web page. Anything you insist on keeping you keep on an external drive you lock with a password and remove from the computer every time you leave the computer. Compete separation, or as they say physical and psychological compartmentalization.


Hmmm, I've been doing this since around 2007 or so. I think I can safely say I've been with 250 to 300 ladies. I started back when SDASP was a thing, then HX.

My recommendation is to not keep track of these details. You'll wind up with someone finding it and then having to discuss or answer questions. Best keep things to yourself and not leave a trail. Speaking from experience here.

CunningLnguist
03-29-25, 12:20
Any of you mongers keep track of how many of these ladies you've seen?

I entered the new year a single man, so I've been at it pretty steady. So far I'm at 25 since the new year LOL, anyone else keeping track of numbers?I started around New Year 2022 and being the nerd that I am, I kept a spreadsheet with names, number of visits, a quick review, and how much the visit was. The count was combined with my pre monger count which was around 20.

20 women I had organically been with over the last 25 years.

Since I started this hobby (addiction would be a better word these days) I got my list up to 324 before I stopped counting. The encrypted hard drive I had all spreadsheet along with all the videos I made got corrupted and I lost it all. But I still keep a list in my notes that loosely documents the count and I think I'm somewhere around 375 now.

Be careful dude. This life can get out of control.

BeachDrone
03-29-25, 14:11
I started around New Year 2022 and being the nerd that I am, I kept a spreadsheet with names, number of visits, a quick review, and how much the visit was. The count was combined with my pre monger count which was around 20.

Since I started this hobby (addiction would be a better word these days) I got my list up to 324 before I stopped counting. I think I'm somewhere around 375 now.

Be careful dude. This life can get out of control.After a 21-year relationship ended, I started exploring erotic massage parlors and escorts in 2016. Not counting duplicates with the same provider, and only counting sessions with FS or BJ, that would be 185 different ladies. Adding in HJ sessions, and not counting duplicates, the total would be about 325 different ladies. (I repeat a lot when I have a good time with a lady.) Yes, it can get a little out of control, but a hell of a lot of fun!

ArrogantBstrd
03-29-25, 18:16
I can't say I keep track. I have been doing this since 2010. I have made several treks down those suspicious dark alleyways to meet providers for the first time, both in the US and abroad. You know that gut-wrenching feeling. That anxiety. Am I going to fight someone today? Will I get robbed? Mugged? Will the provider offer any real satisfaction?

In Japan, there are places called "Pink Salons". Pretty much blow job bars. BBBJCIM, all you can drink sake for about $70/45 minutes. The idea sounds nice, but those spots weren't open until after midnight. You had to work with some Papa-san outside to have him guide you to the place. Sketchy seating arrangements. Cubicles formed by curtains stapled to the ceiling. A couch and a coffee table with a bottle of sake and a box of tissues, and some topless Japanese girl kneeling down in front of you. Craziness. Some of those spots were open until 9 am (overnight). I became a regular at a certain spot. I was able to go there at 4:30 am, quick BBBJCIM, then still make it to the gym by 5:30 am before work.

I'm neither proud nor ashamed of my numbers. The numbers come with this lifestyle. I typically find a provider, then stick with her. I bounce between independent massage parlors and sugar babies. My current sugar baby is a light-skinned Latina. BBFSCIP. She doesn't do CIM, but she does those vaginal contractions while I'm CIM, it's crazy. I squeal and squirm every time. Post-nut clarity so clear that I was able to focus through exams for promotions at work. LOL.

Senior Leche
04-01-25, 00:13
Any of you mongers keep track of how many of these ladies you've seen?

I entered the new year a single man, so I've been at it pretty steady. So far I'm at 25 since the new year LOL, anyone else keeping track of numbers?Interesting question. I'm an old timer. Started in the hobby in LA in 1985 in the good old days when HJ was usually all you could get. FS was available at a few places but BBBJ which seems to be common now was basically non-existent unless you found an UTR GFE.

After reading your post, I went back and tried to figure out how many encounters I've had. I'm not really active now, really scaled down around 10 years ago. From 1985 when I started until around 2015, I probably averaged one visit to an AMP every week. Not really into escorts although I tried them and no experience with streetwalkers. Basically just a massage guy.

So averaging an encounter a week for 30 years means I had 1,560 encounters. These were not with different women. Many repeat visits with the same providers. There just wasn't as much variety as there is now. But conservatively, I bet I've been with over 300 different providers. What a great ride its been!

The scary thing is when I consider the financial cost. Let's say the average amount I spent was $100 for HF and tip. That would mean I have spent more than $150,000 mongering! Wow!

These days seem to be the golden age of mongering with the quality of services and the variety of providers. Enjoy!

SuperFly79
04-08-25, 17:40
This is a non monger question if anyone can help. I'm from out of town and I'm going to a Padres game next Monday. Is it easier to drive and park or park and take the trolley?

Nannersd
04-08-25, 20:50
This is a non monger question if anyone can help. I'm from out of town and I'm going to a Padres game next Monday. Is it easier to drive and park or park and take the trolley?I street park for free around the Middletown station and take the Green Line trolley southbound to the Gaslamp Station. A block or two walk from there. The cost is $2.50 each way using the pronto pass that they sell and the ticket machines at the station. So add $5.00 to the card so you can use it both ways. The trolley ride is maybe 10 minutes. I go about two hours before game time to get something to eat with friends, then we go into the park.

Now my friend is driving from farther away. He does online and pre-pays / reserves a parking spot at one of the many structures. He finds one a number of blocks off for $18.00, but has to walk. He says the closer you get the more costly parking is. I stopped using the pay lots when I saw them charge $75.00 to park!

So the answer is, do what works for you!

Cram1904
04-08-25, 20:51
This is a non monger question if anyone can help. I'm from out of town and I'm going to a Padres game next Monday. Is it easier to drive and park or park and take the trolley?It's a giveaway night, so it'll surely sell out. Save yourself the trouble and trolley it. Depending where you're at, you can drive to a trolley station then hop on from there.

Bane858
04-08-25, 21:03
This is a non monger question if anyone can help. I'm from out of town and I'm going to a Padres game next Monday. Is it easier to drive and park or park and take the trolley?Easier to drive and park but expect to pay a fortune for parking.

Taking the trolley is easy and much cheaper and what I always do, but it is more time consuming.

SatisftyU247
04-08-25, 22:00
This is a non monger question if anyone can help. I'm from out of town and I'm going to a Padres game next Monday. Is it easier to drive and park or park and take the trolley?Another option is Uber or Lyft, depending on where you are staying. I live fairly close to the stadium, so the earlier you arrive, less traffic to contend with. The previous response is correct on parking prices. IMO, not worth the hassle. Uber or Trolley, hit one of the neighborhood breweries or bars, and don't worry about a DUI.

If you Uber or Lyft, after the game walk a few blocks up towards Market. That will probably make catching your ride home easier and less expensive.

SheriffBart
04-09-25, 10:05
This is a non monger question if anyone can help. I'm from out of town and I'm going to a Padres game next Monday. Is it easier to drive and park or park and take the trolley?The trolley AINEC. I'll never drive there again. Just a royal PITA. Pro tip: if you're taking the Blue or the Green line after the game don't get on the trolley at the Gaslamp. Make the short walk to the trolley center at 12th & Imperial and get on there. There is a direct path behind the VIP parking lot. You'll get on an almost empty trolley and get a seat before the horde of people get on at the Gaslamp stop.

Jaguar300ZX
04-14-25, 01:08
The scary thing is when I consider the financial cost. Let's say the average amount I spent was $100 for HF and tip. That would mean I have spent more than $150,000 mongering! Wow!Don't feel too badly about it, over the same amount of time (30 years) You probably spent more money on Car Insurance than on HJ's and BJ's. And although both are Nessessary Evil's, I'm sure we can all agree which one felt better.

Dmonn
04-16-25, 13:20
This is awhile back now. I was fucking at a spa and the power went out during my session. I was about finished and exploded when the lights and music went out. Anyone else know what happened?

SuperFly79
04-20-25, 10:29
Just wanted to thank everyone for the trolley suggestions. It was 100% the right decision. Even though it was a little bit of a hassle finding parking at the trolley station, getting to and from the game was fast and easy. So much so that I had time to make a last minute quick trip to Tijuana to cheer myself up after watching my Cubs get beat down.

StrongerMonger
04-27-25, 12:18
Any of you mongers keep track of how many of these ladies you've seen?

I entered the new year a single man, so I've been at it pretty steady. So far I'm at 25 since the new year LOL, anyone else keeping track of numbers?I started with AMPs in Feb 2024 and recently started Kgirl agencies in Jan 2025. I keep track of who and the repeats.

So it's easy to get my count. I have to always recall my AMP days though, since I didn't track them. But it was short lived so it's easy.

I just put them into a planner like schedule. So I can keep track of how often I do it per week, per month and how many times I've repeated with the same girl.