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Was driving up 163 last night and saw a whole bunch of police action just off the Balboa exit to the right side driving northbound.
Anyone know what was going down?
Sir Bishop
12-15-23, 18:21
Was driving up 163 last night and saw a whole bunch of police action just off the Balboa exit to the right side driving northbound.
Anyone know what was going down?I heard that some business was passing out free donuts!
Was driving up 163 last night and saw a whole bunch of police action just off the Balboa exit to the right side driving northbound.
Anyone know what was going down?I saw the same thing when I was headed southbound. My immediate thought was I hope they weren't ruining somebodies Christmas by visiting the fbsm spot in that business park.
Was driving up 163 last night and saw a whole bunch of police action just off the Balboa exit to the right side driving northbound.
Anyone know what was going down?I saw on reddit that the popular non mention-able place got visited by the police. But it's reddit so take it with a grain of salt.
I saw on reddit that the popular non mention-able place got visited by the police. But it's reddit so take it with a grain of salt.SanDiego subreddit or is there a local AMP subreddit?
I'm definitely interested where you saw this on reddit.
RolfTorren
12-16-23, 22:26
I was always concerned about the lack of security and high profile. I've not seen the Reddit info. We always assume its a raid when LE converges on an AMP. However if it was that obvious (lights, lots of vehicles, etc.) then chances are it wasn't a bust, but more of an emergency. One thing that continually strikes me about the AMPs around the county is their location and vulnerability. They are open long after normal business hours, and habitually deal in cash. The locations are frequently in run-down strip malls. Its a formula for trouble. Not saying this is what happened off the 163, but its something to keep in mind.
I saw on reddit that the popular non mention-able place got visited by the police. But it's reddit so take it with a grain of salt.
RocketManP
12-19-23, 20:25
I should have seen this early and steer you guys down the right path. Nova has good looks with a toned, hot, body, ass and long blondish hair. I've uploaded pics from a few years ago when I saw her in LA and the longer hair for today. She may not be the superstar of the OC Daisy, she's got skills you just didn't experience, I did. Yes, I found her very attractive. Remember, YMMV. I booked an hour, extra shot, was a gentlemen at the door and our session met all of my needs. Nova has very good reviews when she worked in LA and OC. She has used different names and she said bookers wanted to change. She's been Nova, Nuri, Vera and probably more. I'm guessing mid-30's and her DFK, BBBJ, shower preview, damn hot outfit and cute as fuck attitude seals it for me. Leg wraps, doggy, RCG, ACG, you name it, she's down for it. I'll give this lady a full thumbs up and overall 8/10. Yes, I can recommend her.May I ask, if he thought she isn't attractive and you think she is attractive. How could have you steered him down the right path? I feel like the end result would be the same. He'd see her and consider her unattractive.
May I ask, if he thought she isn't attractive and you think she is attractive. How could have you steered him down the right path? I feel like the end result would be the same. He'd see her and consider her unattractive.My thoughts exactly. I find it useful to keep track of other members who have similar tastes. I've found many reports of positive experiences from certain members to be mediocre at best for me so have learned to take them all with a grain of salt.
Sir Bishop
12-20-23, 01:48
May I ask, if he thought she isn't attractive and you think she is attractive. How could have you steered him down the right path? I feel like the end result would be the same. He'd see her and consider her unattractive.RocketManP, the purpose of this forum is to exchange information, honest information gained from visits, on the ladies. I see no reason or purpose that is gained by this monger group by disputing or discouraging other mongers to partake. I do not bash other mongers nor question "why" they do anything. However, I do not see any value or addition of reliable information in your questioning of what I posted when that post has a target audience of every monger on this board. Every monger on this board clearly sees who is legit and who is not in this forum. Thank you for your contributions.
May I ask, if he thought she isn't attractive and you think she is attractive. How could have you steered him down the right path? I feel like the end result would be the same. He'd see her and consider her unattractive.I don't think he was talking about steering the guy he responded to "down the right path", but the rest of the board. And based on the pics he posted being accurate (they are based on my visits with Nova over the past few years), I personally agree.
I do acknowledge many here are enamored of more "curvy girls" as they like to call it. So maybe "right path" is indeed subjective. But Bishop is a long-standing member who has contributed a ton to this forum and doesn't need chastising over something as simple as one word / phrase out of place ("right path" vs "my experience"). I wouldn't even hate on him for posting "right path" all that much as we have seen in the past MANY forum members with post counts under 50 or so posting very unreliable info as they may be bookers / competitors / shills / etc. I'm not claiming that's what was up with the OP re: Nova who Bishop was responding to, but it's not unreasonable he COULD have had that idea in mind when he posted his response / review as a correction.
And to add something positive and hopefully useful for everyone: I've seen Nova many times. If you like small / petite toned and enhanced and SOLID if not absolutely spectacular service (still above the average on the overall Kgirl scale in my experience) - you will enjoy Nova very much. As always, YMMV and "clicking" can make a difference. But from what I've read of her many reviews over the years lines up pretty much with my personal experience. Good to above average service with a tight / toned / enhanced spinner body.
DrPornDawger
12-20-23, 13:23
Well sometimes we get BS (bait and switch).
Asked for Pictures of available talent, and see the results.
Well sometimes we get BS (bait and switch).
Asked for Pictures of available talent, and see the results.LOL my guy. We all know these pictures aren't real. If there were just real pictures of these women available for everyone to look up at anytime. I don't think there would be much reason for this forum to exist to be completely honest.
With that being said, I wouldn't consider this a "bait and switch" IMO. Normally that would be you book an appointment for Ashley and you have an accurate description from reliable mongers on this forum. But they send in Bobo the clown. Who is nothing like what your homies described. That's what I would call the bait and switch.
I don't ever pay any attention to pictures, nor do I ask for them.
SuperFly79
12-23-23, 03:20
I will be in SD next month for a week for my birthday and I wanted to do some gambling. Are the casinos in SD worth going to or should I take a day trip to Vegas?
I will be in SD next month for a week for my birthday and I wanted to do some gambling. Are the casinos in SD worth going to or should I take a day trip to Vegas?Depends on what you plan to play. Sycuan, Viejas, Jamul and Barona are great options in East county SD. If you're up north, Harrah's is a good option. They use the bullshit cards out here in CA, so do Vegas or TJ if you want the real craps and roulette games without the bullshit cards. Table games, poker and slots are all pretty decent in SD as far as limits and options.
The cool thing about TJ is you can gamble at caliente + sports bet, then walk over to Hong Kong to spend your winnings or get your mind off losses LOL.
Sir Bishop
12-23-23, 20:42
I will be in SD next month for a week for my birthday and I wanted to do some gambling. Are the casinos in SD worth going to or should I take a day trip to Vegas?
Depends on what you plan to play. Sycuan, Viejas, Jamul and Barona are great options in East county SD. If you're up north, Harrah's is a good option. They use the bullshit cards out here in CA, so do Vegas or TJ if you want the real craps and roulette games without the bullshit cards. Table games, poker and slots are all pretty decent in SD as far as limits and options.
The cool thing about TJ is you can gamble at caliente + sports bet, then walk over to Hong Kong to spend your winnings or get your mind off losses LOL.Agree 100% the way we have to play craps with cards! Bullshit game. Drive 5 hours to Vegas and enjoy true gambling or hit TJ if you have a passport.
RocketManP
12-23-23, 21:48
RocketManP, the purpose of this forum is to exchange information, honest information gained from visits, on the ladies. I see no reason or purpose that is gained by this monger group by disputing or discouraging other mongers to partake. I do not bash other mongers nor question "why" they do anything. However, I do not see any value or addition of reliable information in your questioning of what I posted when that post has a target audience of every monger on this board. Every monger on this board clearly sees who is legit and who is not in this forum. Thank you for your contributions.I found this response only today since I didn't realize posts have been moved here.
Let me make this clear: I had no problems with you posting info. I share your sentiment about information sharing, as I've written before.
What I did find interesting wast that your post was a reply to a poster who didn't like the girl, and you've said that you should have set him on the right path. So it wasn't clear to me, it seemed you made a claim that if you posted your post earlier he'd somehow like her more.
And as far as questioning other mongers, I beg to differ. You yourself have told me what to do and what I should post (or "focus" on) when I haven't explicitly asked you for an opinion on what I post about. .
Since we're posting in "stupid shit" thread now, let me add something.
It is a disturbing trend that negative evaluations and negative experiences are swept routinely under the proverbial rug.
SuperFly79
12-23-23, 22:16
Agree 100% the way we have to play craps with cards! Bullshit game. Drive 5 hours to Vegas and enjoy true gambling or hit TJ if you have a passport.Thanks for the great advice. Blackjack is my game of choice so I'll check those places out in SD. I totally forgot about gambling in TJ when I was in SD a few months ago, I was so excited about going to HK for the first time so that's all that was on my mind. Are the casinos in SD and TJ 24 hours?
Lascivious
12-23-23, 23:05
Was driving up 163 last night and saw a whole bunch of police action just off the Balboa exit to the right side driving northbound.
Anyone know what was going down?I read some speculation previously that some of the higher profile establishments may be under heightened scrutiny. Seemed plausible.
I went to see a certain DT queen that moved from one banned location to another. When I pulled up, a couple of chubby Mx / Am guys were hanging out in front, giving me the stink eye. Undaunted, I went in to partake of the festivities, all above board of course. Upon exiting, the same two douche fuxs were still there.
My thoughts about police action at that location would be this. If there were any LEO activity, who would execute such action? Marked vehicles with lights, sirens and uniforms? No.
Probably vice, right? Unmarked vehicles, plain clothes, etc. What the fuck do I know? But it seems as though while that location is ripe for scrutiny, overt action with marked cars, uniforms and lights seems implausible.
Thanks for the great advice. Blackjack is my game of choice so I'll check those places out in SD. I totally forgot about gambling in TJ when I was in SD a few months ago, I was so excited about going to HK for the first time so that's all that was on my mind. Are the casinos in SD and TJ 24 hours?LOL I can relate. Caliente became a nice chill spot from the loudness of HK at times for me. A small location is right across the from the back exit of HK. Yeah 24 hrs for SD casinos and TJ. Caliente in TJ has peso and US $ tables + legit craps / roulette. Some of the sportsbooks in TJ do close down during certain hours I believe though. If you have the Caliente card, you can bet on their machines and don't need a teller other than to deposit $ onto the card or collect on a bet. They have larger locations all over with attached hotels.
For SD, the 21 tables at Sycuan are my go to. They have regular, double deck, free bet and a few other variants. The freebet 21 table has a pot of gold side bet that's cool. Other spots have the dealer buster side bet. Most are usually $10 or $15 minimums I think, though can vary on the spot and day / time. I noticed Barona had higher minimums. If you get their players card they might shoot you some freeplay. Most tier match if you have a high level card from another reputable spot too.
Good luck!
MaximusKahn
12-26-23, 11:18
Hopefully one of our Eskimo brothers didn't' have a medial emergency like a Penile Fracture or Heart Attack.
Tough place to explain how you got injured.
Was driving up 163 last night and saw a whole bunch of police action just off the Balboa exit to the right side driving northbound.
Anyone know what was going down?
More of a rant about being ghosted by these flaky escorts than anything.
I had the day off work so I decided to drive up to Carlsbad from CV. I did not schedule an appointment with any provider, but I confirmed beforehand, with three different escorts, that they'd be available during the timeframe 10-1 pm, so I figured I try my luck and start calling when I got up there. I take Palomar Airport exit, parked and made my first round of calls and texts, nothing. Then on and on again deliberately more comms at random intervals during the three hours timespan I fired off multiple rounds, nothing.
I know they sometimes have to check out and wait until later to return, but I would guess just as many pay for rooms in advance. Are they all asleep after a long night? It seems to me that the best time for a guy to get away from family and work would be lunchtime, but all three couldn't have been occupied for the entire time, right? Well, now that it's later the same afternoon guess who texts me back "hey, I'm available now" texts?
I love the popular AMP down in CV, but sometimes I crave the trashy MILF variety, however every time I seek out BP escorts I'm drawn to the conclusion I would have been far better off had I stuck with the AMP scene.
These ladies have all been regular providers here for some time, so I thought risk of getting ghosted was low.
https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/162568686
https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/162534957
https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/162566055
More of a rant about being ghosted by these flaky escorts than anything.
I had the day off work so I decided to drive up to Carlsbad from CV. I did not schedule an appointment with any provider, but I confirmed beforehand, with three different escorts, that they'd be available during the timeframe 10-1 pm, so I figured I try my luck and start calling when I got up there. I take Palomar Airport exit, parked and made my first round of calls and texts, nothing. Then on and on again deliberately more comms at random intervals during the three hours timespan I fired off multiple rounds, nothing.
I know they sometimes have to check out and wait until later to return, but I would guess just as many pay for rooms in advance. Are they all asleep after a long night? It seems to me that the best time for a guy to get away from family and work would be lunchtime, but all three couldn't have been occupied for the entire time, right? Well, now that it's later the same afternoon guess who texts me back "hey, I'm available now" texts?
I love the popular AMP down in CV, but sometimes I crave the trashy MILF variety, however every time I seek out BP escorts I'm drawn to the conclusion I would have been far better off had I stuck with the AMP scene.
These ladies have all been regular providers here for some time, so I thought risk of getting ghosted was low.
https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/162568686
https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/162534957
https://milfy.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/162566055Brother I hear that. On the few occasions I have a whole day flexibility to schedule and indulge and resort to the escort side, it's nothing but fruitless texts and waiting around. Finally maybe a response 3 hours to 3 days later. My favorite AMP girl left town so I'm trying to find a regular that I can cultivate a comfortable relationship with. North County has become somewhat of a wasteland for AMPs so I'm resigned to more driving.
Brother I hear that. On the few occasions I have a whole day flexibility to schedule and indulge and resort to the escort side, it's nothing but fruitless texts and waiting around. Finally maybe a response 3 hours to 3 days later. My favorite AMP girl left town so I'm trying to find a regular that I can cultivate a comfortable relationship with. North County has become somewhat of a wasteland for AMPs so I'm resigned to more driving.Stick with the mamasan.
So I've been mongering for a while and have had my fair share of fun with streetwalkers, escorts, massage parlors, dating apps, etc. But one thing I'm not familiar with is the vibes of "adult stores" such as adult emporium, jolars, etc.
I've gone into them to pick things up (lube, toys, etc.) and walked around out of curiosity but I'm wondering if anyone can educate me on what goes on and what to expect.
What I do know. Places like adult emporium on convoy sometimes have live shows from nude girls, I've seen one or two and they are usually really ugly and not tempting at all.
What I don't know.
These places also have "movie rooms" where you can rent DVDs to watch. The few times I've walked around, it's always just a bunch of dudes walking around suspiciously. What's the deal? LOL.
Are these dudes waiting for someone to rent a movie / room to ask to join? Are they looking to join other dudes watching porn for gay stuff? Why are people paying to watch shitty porn instead of just using their phones to watch stuff online?
I guess maybe they are people with no privacy at home and just want to rub one out in peace? LOL.
These are some of the questions that go through my head. If anyone is familiar with what goes on in these places and what to expect, I'd appreciate it. Mostly just curious about the dudes that walk around aimlessly looking guilty as fuck LOL.
Sadddkdwwws
01-03-24, 00:51
So I've been mongering for a while and have had my fair share of fun with streetwalkers, escorts, massage parlors, dating apps, etc. But one thing I'm not familiar with is the vibes of "adult stores" such as adult emporium, jolars, etc.
I've gone into them to pick things up (lube, toys, etc.) and walked around out of curiosity but I'm wondering if anyone can educate me on what goes on and what to expect.
What I do know. Places like adult emporium on convoy sometimes have live shows from nude girls, I've seen one or two and they are usually really ugly and not tempting at all.
What I don't know.
These places also have "movie rooms" where you can rent DVDs to watch. The few times I've walked around, it's always just a bunch of dudes walking around suspiciously. What's the deal? LOL.
Are these dudes waiting for someone to rent a movie / room to ask to join? Are they looking to join other dudes watching porn for gay stuff? Why are people paying to watch shitty porn instead of just using their phones to watch stuff online?
I guess maybe they are people with no privacy at home and just want to rub one out in peace? LOL.
These are some of the questions that go through my head. If anyone is familiar with what goes on in these places and what to expect, I'd appreciate it. Mostly just curious about the dudes that walk around aimlessly looking guilty as fuck LOL.A long time ago I went into an adult store and went into the private room to watch some porn and the guy behind the front counter said "let me know if you need a hand in there". I left.
MaximusKahn
01-03-24, 11:18
For Most Mongers, don't bother.
Unless you take a woman with you, plan to meet a woman there, or know for sure a gang bang is planned don't go.
The chances of finding and meeting a random female there is slim to none. If a female just happened to be there, you'd probably not want to fuck her anyway.
I'd figure that the guys who just roam around are in a fantasy land thinking women will show up in such a sleezy place for a hook up, or looking for gay action, maybe both.
Pick up your supplies and leave. Keep to mongering for your fun.
So I've been mongering for a while and have had my fair share of fun with streetwalkers, escorts, massage parlors, dating apps, etc. But one thing I'm not familiar with is the vibes of "adult stores" such as adult emporium, jolars, etc.
I've gone into them to pick things up (lube, toys, etc.) and walked around out of curiosity but I'm wondering if anyone can educate me on what goes on and what to expect.
What I do know. Places like adult emporium on convoy sometimes have live shows from nude girls, I've seen one or two and they are usually really ugly and not tempting at all.
What I don't know.
These places also have "movie rooms" where you can rent DVDs to watch. The few times I've walked around, it's always just a bunch of dudes walking around suspiciously. What's the deal? LOL.
Are these dudes waiting for someone to rent a movie / room to ask to join? Are they looking to join other dudes watching porn for gay stuff? Why are people paying to watch shitty porn instead of just using their phones to watch stuff online?
I guess maybe they are people with no privacy at home and just want to rub one out in peace? LOL.
These are some of the questions that go through my head. If anyone is familiar with what goes on in these places and what to expect, I'd appreciate it. Mostly just curious about the dudes that walk around aimlessly looking guilty as fuck LOL.
Bushexplorer
01-03-24, 18:21
For Most Mongers, don't bother.
Unless you take a woman with you, plan to meet a woman there, or know for sure a gang bang is planned don't go.
The chances of finding and meeting a random female there is slim to none. If a female just happened to be there, you'd probably not want to fuck her anyway.
I'd figure that the guys who just roam around are in a fantasy land thinking women will show up in such a sleezy place for a hook up, or looking for gay action, maybe both.
Pick up your supplies and leave. Keep to mongering for your fun.I agree with Max, but I've had two occasions with one couple where they wanted to meet in one of the private rooms at the Adult Emporium on Convoy. He likes to watch his GF with other men and I was happy to volunteer. They said they would host at what I assumed was a motel, but it was this place. Very weird vibe there. The private room was only $15 for the length of a movie (about 90 minutes). This was a room at the back of the store. It had a couple of couches that were fake leather and cracked. Didn't feel real sanitary. There were paper towels and low lighting. Not sure I would do it again if it wasn't for the woman being hot. The second time we went to a private room down some stairs. It was smaller but the feeling the same. In another part of the downstairs were booths and only guys walking around.
On the positive, it's cheap and cash and we only needed an hour. On the negative, it's not that sanitary and the staff (a big bald guy) were bordering on rude. Like an AMP, you can hear people and videos in the next room. I can't imagine that a couple would go there without having something set up beforehand. As I said, some of the guys walking around that place were creepy.
Muncher8888
01-06-24, 01:28
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Pic which I cannot seem to transfer is very decent looking blond dyed with some brown American looking.
Take your pic. Same ad, same pics run in dozens of cities at the same time. A fool and his money are soon parted.
Ad on bodyrubsmap.
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Pic which I cannot seem to transfer is very decent looking blond dyed with some brown American looking.
Pic which I cannot seem to transfer is very decent looking blond dyed with some brown American looking.Surprised that you even have to second guess obviously fake ads like this. Please stay safe.
Muncher8888
01-09-24, 02:24
Surprised that you even have to second guess obviously fake ads like this. Please stay safe.Rob attempt?
Car jack?
Muncher8888
01-09-24, 02:27
Take your pic. Same ad, same pics run in dozens of cities at the same time. Now here is where LE could do some good.
Or get a gang of a dozen of us to do some vigilante work.
I know I know it's not going to happen.
ImNotWeird
01-14-24, 18:36
Has anyone ever been able to resist? Fuck I'm mad at myself but bare = best, plus no upsell.
Anything I can do preemptively? Industrial soap? I'm allergic to penicillin.
MaximusKahn
01-19-24, 11:03
Guys, sure you can ask about favorite spots, favorite girls, but asking about someone's favorite UTR is not likely going to be answered.
Establishing an UTR girl takes time, money, and a little chemistry. It is more a relationship at that point than just a business transaction.
They have to trust you, and even like you on some level. Just learning the name and place of an UTR won't necessarily get you UTR privileges.
That doesn't mean UTR action is exclusive, but it's usually reserved for a few. Maybe only one, if he's got the magic.
To get your own UTR, spend the time, money, and charm with a non-full service provider and see how much she will allow.
Once you developed your own UTR girl, you'll understand why they are a personal provider.
Like I mentioned before, once you find your UTR favorite, or unicorn, try hard not to fall in love.
Max.
AeroStartC
01-20-24, 03:00
Guys, sure you can ask about favorite spots, favorite girls, but asking about someone's favorite UTR is not likely going to be answered.
Establishing an UTR girl takes time, money, and a little chemistry. It is more a relationship at that point than just a business transaction.
They have to trust you, and even like you on some level. Just learning the name and place of an UTR won't necessarily get you UTR privileges.
That doesn't mean UTR action is exclusive, but it's usually reserved for a few. Maybe only one, if he's got the magic.
To get your own UTR, spend the time, money, and charm with a non-full service provider and see how much she will allow.
Once you developed your own UTR girl, you'll understand why they are a personal provider.
Like I mentioned before, once you find your UTR favorite, or unicorn, try hard not to fall in love.
Max.So true. UTR Girls are golden if you find the right one.
I walked into Castenedas to grab a burrito and two older Asians were at the counter ordering food. My spidey monger senses were at alert. I took a closer look and both girls were wearing unattractive sweats and jeans. They both looked pretty rough, one may have had acne. I walked up and ordered as they were just hanging out at the counter. I sat in the back and yup they both walked into Pine. LOL.
Jeez, I guess that is what they look like in the wild and with lights on. I am crossing Pine spa off the list.
Jaguar300ZX
01-30-24, 01:49
I walked into Castenedas to grab a burrito and two older Asians were at the counter ordering food. My spidey monger senses were at alert. I took a closer look and both girls were wearing unattractive sweats and jeans. They both looked pretty rough, one may have had acne. I walked up and ordered as they were just hanging out at the counter. I sat in the back and yup they both walked into Pine. LOL.
Jeez, I guess that is what they look like in the wild and with lights on. I am crossing Pine spa off the list.Like seeing a Stripper exit out the back door of the Club in her street clothes at the end of her shift. They dress down on purpose so not to attract attention, but why complain about it, it's your spank-bank imagination that gets you across the finish line anyway.
RolfTorren
01-30-24, 19:35
Couldn't agree more. One way of losing your UTR is to share too much about the special benefits you get (and of course its just just you right. I mean she couldn't possibly be a UTR for some other guy LOL! I've actually found Chinese AMP girls kind of open to the experience of at least communicating outside the AMP environment. Right now I probably have four or five I correspond with via WeChat. They let me know when they will be back in town or where they are going to next. And it seems to pay off with better sessions and occasional encounters beyond the AMP environment. You have to play the long game, but its been fun for me and hopefully for them too.
So true. UTR Girls are golden if you find the right one.
Rey KittyHawk
02-02-24, 12:43
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I mean it takes 5 minutes to scroll and find the generic info he's asking for.
Whether a lazy newbie or LE, best to let them do their own work if they can't offer even minimal evidence that they are legit customers.
Saw a post. Wondering if he's LE.
His very first post.
He says he is an active Monger. Says he's become a regular as some places, but doesn't give names of those places.
Says he's gotten FS at one place in and County, but again no name of the place or provider.
Says he gets FS at a place in Oceanside and Temecula, but still no names.
Then at the end he asks for places that offer FS, and says PMs are ok.
I sent a PM requesting a few names from him to see if he is legit and can share something. So far he hasn't responded.
Since I have seen the North County LE crack down close spa after spa, I'm a bit leary of new guys asking for FS locations in their first post.
Maybe I'm too careful, but if the first post gives nothing, but is asking for FS locations I am suspicious. Maybe he's being careful too, but it makes me think of LE right away.
RChangDatyKing
02-02-24, 15:30
I mean it takes 5 minutes to scroll and find the generic info he's asking for.
Whether a lazy newbie or LE, best to let them do their own work if they can't offer even minimal evidence that they are legit customers.Yeah, I don't even bother with newbies that claims they've been hobbying for years, been to "lots" of places, but no posts / reviews and their first post is to ask for specific information. That's why I keep my inbox full so I don't continue getting PMs from them asking for intel.
RolfTorren
02-02-24, 22:47
Agreed. For me theres an unspoken rule. If you want specifics, then earn the right to be repected here by providing detailed and relevant information of your experiences. When I read "Long time lurker, first time poster" I basically ignore the rest of the message. Same goes for PMs. Its occurred to me more than once that the vast majority of hobbyists here in SD share NOTHING of their experiences but basically use this and a couple of other sites for information. Think of how many individuals post here weekly. And compare that to the number of guys who frequent the most popular indies, spas and AAMPS. I don't mind sharing experiences here, but I've become more circumspect in recent times.
Yeah, I don't even bother with newbies that claims they've been hobbying for years, been to "lots" of places, but no posts / reviews and their first post is to ask for specific information. That's why I keep my inbox full so I don't continue getting PMs from them asking for intel.
DMichaels69
02-03-24, 09:15
Send me one of your UTR's! LOL.
Yeah, I don't even bother with newbies that claims they've been hobbying for years, been to "lots" of places, but no posts / reviews and their first post is to ask for specific information. That's why I keep my inbox full so I don't continue getting PMs from them asking for intel.
MaximusKahn
02-03-24, 12:00
More like send me a 'list" of all your favorite places, ATFs, and your UTR women.
Send me one of your UTR's! LOL.
Sir Bishop
02-03-24, 13:21
Yeah, I don't even bother with newbies that claims they've been hobbying for years, been to "lots" of places, but no posts / reviews and their first post is to ask for specific information. That's why I keep my inbox full so I don't continue getting PMs from them asking for intel.We can probably count on a very small number of mongers on this board that truly do contribute whether it's a review or information from personal experience. New Kids on the Block need to contribute several times with both reviews and verifiable information. Lurkers are ignored. Mongers with personal agendas are ignored. I think there are fewer than a dozen mongers on this board that I trust their contributions. Earn your stripes then you'll get attention.
I walked into Castenedas to grab a burrito and two older Asians were at the counter ordering food. My spidey monger senses were at alert. I took a closer look and both girls were wearing unattractive sweats and jeans. They both looked pretty rough, one may have had acne. I walked up and ordered as they were just hanging out at the counter. I sat in the back and yup they both walked into Pine. LOL.
Jeez, I guess that is what they look like in the wild and with lights on. I am crossing Pine spa off the list.Pine was one of the first places I frequented regularly back in the day when it was Hana- they had some pretty impressive talent back then. Guess not so much anymore. 5.
Pine was one of the first places I frequented regularly back in the day when it was Hana- they had some pretty impressive talent back then. Guess not so much anymore. 5.It doesn't take much to get my imagination going and understand when providers wear civilian clothing out. The two I saw were not attractive and this is coming from someone who doesn't mind seeing grannies from time to time. LOL.
I have nothing against Pine, I have never been as the place always seemed to charge higher than places nearby. Who knows maybe the two were dropping off food to their friends and didn't work there. Manny.
ToddRichards12
02-03-24, 15:54
We can probably count on a very small number of mongers on this board that truly do contribute whether it's a review or information from personal experience. New Kids on the Block need to contribute several times with both reviews and verifiable information. Lurkers are ignored. Mongers with personal agendas are ignored. I think there are fewer than a dozen mongers on this board that I trust their contributions. Earn your stripes then you'll get attention.I'm relatively new at this hobby and very new to this board. I am trying to contribute where I can but my experience is lacking and thus I don't have as much to contribute as more experienced posters like yourself.
Maybe we need a mentorship program? I could definitely use some tips from someone who has been in this hobby a long time. So far I have been lucky and haven't had any terrible experiences but I still have lots to learn and tons of questions.
Sir Bishop
02-04-24, 00:55
Yeah, I don't even bother with newbies that claims they've been hobbying for years, been to "lots" of places, but no posts / reviews and their first post is to ask for specific information. That's why I keep my inbox full so I don't continue getting PMs from them asking for intel.
I'm relatively new at this hobby and very new to this board. I am trying to contribute where I can but my experience is lacking and thus I don't have as much to contribute as more experienced posters like yourself.
Maybe we need a mentorship program? I could definitely use some tips from someone who has been in this hobby a long time. So far I have been lucky and haven't had any terrible experiences but I still have lots to learn and tons of questions.Here's a quick tip to get you started. Join Humaniplex (HX), see a few ladies there and rate each other. Tell us about those experiences. HX on its own is well situated to help you avoid the terrible experience with its rating system. HX may seem daunting at first but take time to look at each of its features. Rating is how the boys and girls there know each other is safe and not a rip off.
I'm relatively new at this hobby and very new to this board. I am trying to contribute where I can but my experience is lacking and thus I don't have as much to contribute as more experienced posters like yourself.
Maybe we need a mentorship program? I could definitely use some tips from someone who has been in this hobby a long time. So far I have been lucky and haven't had any terrible experiences but I still have lots to learn and tons of questions.
I stick to nonFS AMPs and most of my best sessions have come from DMs from the handful of us that are out there combing through the mediocre spots looking for diamonds. I share what I know in detail and get intel in return. I also keep quiet when I do get intel as it's not mine to share.
So if you're into AMPs, go to a few sleepy spots and report back. Even if they're a bust that's useful intel for the rest of us.
ToddRichards12
02-04-24, 23:30
I stick to nonFS AMPs and most of my best sessions have come from DMs from the handful of us that are out there combing through the mediocre spots looking for diamonds. I share what I know in detail and get intel in return. I also keep quiet when I do get intel as it's not mine to share.
So if you're into AMPs, go to a few sleepy spots and report back. Even if they're a bust that's useful intel for the rest of us.This makes a lot of sense to me but unfortunately I'm not an AMP guy. I have seen quite a few providers from PD and RR though. Currently I'm parading through Cuddle Comfort. I use the same name on TER and I've already had a couple people PM me to ask about providers I have reviewed.
My biggest questions aren't related to specific establishments or providers but about more general stuff. For example what is the standard for a hhr session? Does that always include FS or sometimes not? Or how do you know if an hr session includes msog if it's not specified?
DrPornDawger
02-05-24, 13:55
This makes a lot of sense to me but unfortunately I'm not an AMP guy. I have seen quite a few providers from PD and RR though. Currently I'm parading through Cuddle Comfort. I use the same name on TER and I've already had a couple people PM me to ask about providers I have reviewed.
My biggest questions aren't related to specific establishments or providers but about more general stuff. For example what is the standard for a hhr session? Does that always include FS or sometimes not? Or how do you know if an hr session includes msog if it's not specified?In a nutshell, one can always text or call the establishment, rates have gone up. PD and RR, T3 R, etc have the rates posted are they always correct?.
When you read inbetween the lines, it's always YMMV, but when you see the reports on a specific place, like the establishment that was just shut down, as the saying goes "when you know, you know". There's already a list of places that people have reviewed and sometimes quite excessively.
Or.
RR, do you get what you paid for? When it's advertised $260/ hour FBSM, what's the extra fee you have paid to get extras? Where are your reviews of the people you provided beside T3 R, which needs a subscription. (contribute here as well as T3 R, I know writing reviews on that site, gives one a limited amount of days free.
To everyone, it's the looks of provider, and others it's wam bam thank you ma'am. (I. E. Jen https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6195000688; or Breezy https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Breezy1 https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/breezy-escort-orange-county-95287 or another older Selma https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6196326380.
Again to each their own.
Examples of ads for AMPs:
Rates posted:
https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/6904-miramar-rd-210-sd/23158481.html
Some are little more indiscreet:
https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/linda-vista/23144576.html
https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/3659-india-st-200-san-diego/23158140.html
No rates posted, but one can assume.
Long story short, the information is out there.
ToddRichards12
02-05-24, 19:05
In a nutshell, one can always text or call the establishment, rates have gone up. PD and RR, T3 R, etc have the rates posted are they always correct?.
When you read inbetween the lines, it's always YMMV, but when you see the reports on a specific place, like the establishment that was just shut down, as the saying goes "when you know, you know". There's already a list of places that people have reviewed and sometimes quite excessively.
Or.
RR, do you get what you paid for? When it's advertised $260/ hour FBSM, what's the extra fee you have paid to get extras? Where are your reviews of the people you provided beside T3 R, which needs a subscription. (contribute here as well as T3 R, I know writing reviews on that site, gives one a limited amount of days free.
To everyone, it's the looks of provider, and others it's wam bam thank you ma'am. (I. E. Jen https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6195000688; or Breezy https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/Breezy1 https://www.eroticmonkey.ch/breezy-escort-orange-county-95287 or another older Selma https://listcrawler.eu/last_phone_post/6196326380.
Again to each their own.
Examples of ads for AMPs:
Rates posted:
https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/6904-miramar-rd-210-sd/23158481.html
Some are little more indiscreet:
https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/linda-vista/23144576.html
https://sandiego.bedpage.com/Bodyrubs/3659-india-st-200-san-diego/23158140.html
No rates posted, but one can assume.
Long story short, the information is out there.Rates are easy and I have found them to be accurate as posted. And yes obviously if the rate is 260 for FBSM you're going to pay more for something other than a standard FBSM.
I was asking about what the "standard" hhr rate includes for an escort, not FBSM provider.
DrPornDawger
02-06-24, 12:10
Rates are easy and I have found them to be accurate as posted. And yes obviously if the rate is 260 for FBSM you're going to pay more for something other than a standard FBSM.
I was asking about what the "standard" hhr rate includes for an escort, not FBSM provider.IMHO and experience for hhr.
CBJ / BBBJ.
CFS most often times only 1 position (might be lucky with more).
YMMV with each provider. (Most reports from providers that I've had a pleasure to chat with, most guys are done in less than the hhr).
ToddRichards12
02-06-24, 14:03
IMHO and experience for hhr.
CBJ / BBBJ.
CFS most often times only 1 position (might be lucky with more).
YMMV with each provider. (Most reports from providers that I've had a pleasure to chat with, most guys are done in less than the hhr).Thanks for the info. Do you mean both BJ and CFS? Or only one or the other?
My concern with hhr is expecting CFS and then being told it's only BJ. I have read some reviews places of times that has happened and I was just wondering if there is a "standard" to expect or if hhr is just kind of all over the map.
Sir Bishop
02-06-24, 18:52
Rates are easy and I have found them to be accurate as posted. And yes obviously if the rate is 260 for FBSM you're going to pay more for something other than a standard FBSM.
I was asking about what the "standard" hhr rate includes for an escort, not FBSM provider.Perhaps you should make an appointment and meet someone in person. Then post here what your experience was like. Honestly, that is how most people learn and that includes a lot of us here. You can ask lots of questions here, but the best way to learn is to experience. Oh yes, YMMV on what you are asking.
RChangDatyKing
02-06-24, 19:44
YMMV with each provider. (Most reports from providers that I've had a pleasure to chat with, most guys are done in less than the hhr).
When you read inbetween the lines, it's always YMMV, but when you see the reports on a specific place, like the establishment that was just shut down, as the saying goes "when you know, you know".
This makes a lot of sense to me but unfortunately I'm not an AMP guy. I have seen quite a few providers from PD and RR though. Currently I'm parading through Cuddle Comfort. I use the same name on TER and I've already had a couple people PM me to ask about providers I have reviewed.
My biggest questions aren't related to specific establishments or providers but about more general stuff. For example what is the standard for a hhr session? Does that always include FS or sometimes not? Or how do you know if an hr session includes msog if it's not specified?Standard? Again, YMMV, YMWV! A 20 something hottie is going to ask for a larger donation amount than a 40 something average looking provider. The service will also be significantly different. YMMV. Like Bishop suggested, see an ad you like, search for reviews to get an idea of service, make the appointment and go experience the session yourself. Not all sessions are going to be the same.
Perhaps you should make an appointment and meet someone in person. Then post here what your experience was like. Honestly, that is how most people learn and that includes a lot of us here. You can ask lots of questions here, but the best way to learn is to experience. Oh yes, YMMV on what you are asking.The message / tips I hear everyone telling you in their replies are- YMMV!
ToddRichards12
02-06-24, 20:46
Standard? Again, YMMV, YMWV! A 20 something hottie is going to ask for a larger donation amount than a 40 something average looking provider. The service will also be significantly different. YMMV. Like Bishop suggested, see an ad you like, search for reviews to get an idea of service, make the appointment and go experience the session yourself. Not all sessions are going to be the same.
The message / tips I hear everyone telling you in their replies are- YMMV!
Perhaps you should make an appointment and meet someone in person. Then post here what your experience was like. Honestly, that is how most people learn and that includes a lot of us here. You can ask lots of questions here, but the best way to learn is to experience. Oh yes, YMMV on what you are asking.I have made several appointments and have met several people in person. I have also read lots of reviews about providers I have seen and others I have not. And that is why I am asking this specific question. From what I have read and experienced personally, when you book an HR it seems that CFS is standard. I have never had a provider try to tell me that's not included in an hour.
What I am trying to avoid is booking a HHR and then show up only to have the provider say sorry that does not include CFS and it's only CBJ. So what I'm asking is does HHR generally include CFS or is that more often YMMV or "optional"?
RChangDatyKing
02-06-24, 20:57
I have made several appointments and have met several people in person. I have also read lots of reviews about providers I have seen and others I have not. And that is why I am asking this specific question. From what I have read and experienced personally, when you book an HR it seems that CFS is standard. I have never had a provider try to tell me that's not included in an hour.
What I am trying to avoid is booking a HHR and then show up only to have the provider say sorry that does not include CFS and it's only CBJ. So what I'm asking is does HHR generally include CFS or is that more often YMMV or "optional"?You've met several people, yet no reviews. You mentioned in a post about seeing Paige 5-6 years ago, so you've been hobbying at least that long. Yet, no to very little reviews, at least on this board.
Good luck to you with the hobby!
ToddRichards12
02-06-24, 21:09
You've met several people, yet no reviews. You mentioned in a post about seeing Paige 5-6 years ago, so you've been hobbying at least that long. Yet, no to very little reviews, at least on this board.
Good luck to you with the hobby!I just discovered this board and started posting here. Paige was one of my first and I didn't really start hobbying until several years later.
I have lots of reviews posted on TER and PD. It seems silly for me to repost them all on here just to gain some kind of street cred with you and the senior posters. Would you guys really like me to cut and paste about 50 reviews? I'm pretty sure if I did that you'd all complain that I was spamming the board with old reviews.
If you or anyone else would like to read them, my profiles are accessible on the other sites.
RolfTorren
02-06-24, 23:10
Ok Todd, fair enough you "just discovered" this board. Your posts appear to be full of questions but not much on the way of sharing your experiences. Try posting some detailed reviews including rates etc. You may find a more positive response. As I mentioned in an earlier post, SD is full of hobbyists who take but give back very little when it comes to sharing useful information. This board is its own community. What happens elsewhere is not particularly useful. TER is compromised as is RM. Not to say that every poster here is without agenda. There are lots of glowing reports written by management or their proxies. Similarly, some negative reports are designed to bankrupt the competition. Give and you shall eventually receive my friend.
I just discovered this board and started posting here. Paige was one of my first and I didn't really start hobbying until several years later.
I have lots of reviews posted on TER and PD. It seems silly for me to repost them all on here just to gain some kind of street cred with you and the senior posters. Would you guys really like me to cut and paste about 50 reviews? I'm pretty sure if I did that you'd all complain that I was spamming the board with old reviews.
If you or anyone else would like to read them, my profiles are accessible on the other sites.
RChangDatyKing
02-07-24, 01:15
I just discovered this board and started posting here. Paige was one of my first and I didn't really start hobbying until several years later.
I have lots of reviews posted on TER and PD. It seems silly for me to repost them all on here just to gain some kind of street cred with you and the senior posters. Would you guys really like me to cut and paste about 50 reviews? I'm pretty sure if I did that you'd all complain that I was spamming the board with old reviews.
If you or anyone else would like to read them, my profiles are accessible on the other sites.You don't need to gain / show any "street cred" with me. A lot with the hobby is YMMV. I think most of us are saying, post some reviews instead of just asking. You have 30 plus posts and they are almost all questions. I think one monger said it best; Give to Get! You didn't just discovered this forum. You're a Senior Member and had to be a member of the forum for at least 6 months. You haven't seen anyone in the past 6 months since being on the board that you can share?
DrPornDawger
02-07-24, 10:54
I just discovered this board and started posting here. Paige was one of my first and I didn't really start hobbying until several years later.
I have lots of reviews posted on TER and PD. It seems silly for me to repost them all on here just to gain some kind of street cred with you and the senior posters. Would you guys really like me to cut and paste about 50 reviews? I'm pretty sure if I did that you'd all complain that I was spamming the board with old reviews.
If you or anyone else would like to read them, my profiles are accessible on the other sites.Could you start with someone you've seen recently in the past, let's say, month? Is that fair to ask?
I don't post all the time myself, because I've been doing the same women for that I've already reviewed, what more can one say about BBBJ / dt and cfs from k9-mish.
Or all around the world with the same provider. Only time, if I'm willing to share if that provider allows me to share another terrific session.
The agenda for them is that they want more clients and repeat business.
So here's a question for you. What is it you are looking for? I think I answered your question and how did you like the answer?
DrPornDawger
02-07-24, 11:02
Thanks for the info. Do you mean both BJ and CFS? Or only one or the other?
My concern with hhr is expecting CFS and then being told it's only BJ. I have read some reviews places of times that has happened and I was just wondering if there is a "standard" to expect or if hhr is just kind of all over the map.I didn't read too far down enough and you were not satisfied with the answer I gave.
Let me spell it clearly.
The examples of the providers I gave you. You can scroll down and search.
Selma not a looker but a nympho in bed.
BBBJ and CFS for 120 for 15 min. Not a clock watcher. Went to hhr.
She will post specials.
Recent post. https://escortalligator.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/164619143
She may not be your cup of tea and I’ve seen her many times. I’ve stopped because she found out I’ve fucked her daughter and she won’t have sex with anyone that does that
Go figure. Selma will also make you wait up to 45 min. Which I don’t care for.
Ace McNasty
02-07-24, 15:00
You didn't just discovered this forum. You're a Senior Member and had to be a member of the forum for at least 6 months. You haven't seen anyone in the past 6 months since being on the board that you can share?Dammit DatyKing will you please stop making sense LMAO!
BluesBalls
02-07-24, 18:19
She may not be your cup of tea and Ive seen her many times. Ive stopped because she found out Ive fucked her daughter and she wont have sex with anyone that does that
...
Otherwise can't wait until her granddaughter comes of age and then it will be a trifecta.Fucking legend lmao.
ToddRichards12
02-07-24, 20:52
Could you start with someone you've seen recently in the past, let's say, month? Is that fair to ask?
I don't post all the time myself, because I've been doing the same women for that I've already reviewed, what more can one say about BBBJ / dt and cfs from k9-mish.
Or all around the world with the same provider. Only time, if I'm willing to share if that provider allows me to share another terrific session.
The agenda for them is that they want more clients and repeat business.
So here's a question for you. What is it you are looking for? I think I answered your question and how did you like the answer?Sure, I'm happy to post a review with someone I have seen recently. I'll do it today.
I was looking to find out if there is a standard for what's included in a hhr session or if that varies a lot between different providers. Basically if that always includes CFS or not. Your answer confused me a bit as I was unclear if you meant in your experience it included both CBJ / BBBJ and CFS (one position) or just one or the other.
ToddRichards12
02-07-24, 21:03
I think most of us are saying, post some reviews instead of just asking. You have 30 plus posts and they are almost all questions. I think one monger said it best; Give to Get!
Your posts appear to be full of questions but not much on the way of sharing your experiences. I'm happy to start posting some reviews on here. I think you guys must have missed some of my posts.
My first post on this forum was less than 2 months ago. In the first 2 weeks or so, I asked about 2 different providers while at the same time answering questions from other posters about 3 different providers I have seen before. So there I gave more than I received.
I also made a post asking for recommendations for new FBSM providers that actually have real massage skills. That post included me sharing 2 of my own recommendations so that anyone who was willing to answer my question already had my recommendations without having to ask. Giving before I received anything.
Since then I've asked a few more questions. I haven't answered any because I haven't had any info to provide anyone who has asked. However, I have exchanged some info with a few posters via PM that you obviously wouldn't be privy to.
HermanMiller
02-08-24, 02:29
Here's a quick tip to get you started. Join Humaniplex (HX), see a few ladies there and rate each other. Tell us about those experiences. HX on its own is well situated to help you avoid the terrible experience with its rating system. HX may seem daunting at first but take time to look at each of its features. Rating is how the boys and girls there know each other is safe and not a rip off.This is great advice. I also go to HX when I need a reset. If I had some bad experiences, I go to some Hx girls where I'll know what I'm going to get and should leave happy. Then, I'll try to take some chances on the other websites where the girls might be riskier.
Especially the Asian agencies now are great. Really impressed with the talent they bring in.
https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2024/feb/09/sdqt-massage-parlor-allowed-to-re-open-after-re-branding-as-church/?amp&page=all
https://www.sandiegoreader.com/news/2024/feb/09/sdqt-massage-parlor-allowed-to-re-open-after-re-branding-as-church/?amp&page=allThats fucking insane. Guess they just want to get shut down.
Thats fucking insane. Guess they just want to get shut down.In case it's not clear, this is a parody news article. It's tagged with "SD on the QT: Almost Factual News". If you follow the link, all the other stories with that tag are clearly joke articles.
SDJaziKing
02-11-24, 18:29
Thats fucking insane. Guess they just want to get shut down.They will literally be the perfect example of "Fuck Around and Find Out. ".
StubbornMule
02-17-24, 23:56
I'm 95% sure Sevendayswolf is a shill. His account is relatively new, and he keeps posting glowing reviews for Blue Sky Spa. In particular, he posted two word-for-word identical reviews for two different providers:
On 1/4/24 he wrote:
"Tiffany is worth the time.
She was one of the great masseuses here. She's in 40's, sexy and cute. Tiffany is everything that is written about her and more. Sweet lady that's willing to do what it takes for your and her pleasure. Yes she enjoys it as well. Started off with some shoulder rubbing to break the ice. It quickly turned into a BBBJ which damn near had me. Excellent BBBJ not even a hint of teeth. The cover was on and CG before I knew it. I wanted some Missionary and she was all for it. Tiffany can and will take a good pounding and enjoys it.
Finished off with some more BBBJ and a HJ.
Treat her right and she'll definitely take care of you. ".
On 2/8/24 he wrote:
"Wendy is everything that is written about her and more. Sweet lady that's willing to do what it takes for your and her pleasure. Yes she enjoys it as well. Started off with some shoulder rubbing to break the ice. It quickly turned into a BBBJ which damn near had me. Excellent BBBJ not even a hint of teeth. The cover was on and CG before I knew it. I wanted some Missionary and she was all for it. Wendy can and will take a good pounding and enjoys it.
Finished off with some more BBBJ and a HJ.
Treat her right and she'll definitely take care of you. ".
Literally the same words, and more than half of his meager posts are about this one place. Also suspect that TexiMex/Cowboy5 are also shills (possible even the same person using different accounts).
Admins please address this. Can't stand shills / simps!
LipLover 88
02-18-24, 11:20
I'm 95% sure Sevendayswolf is a shill. His account is relatively new, and he keeps posting glowing reviews for Blue Sky Spa. In particular, he posted two word-for-word identical reviews for two different providers:
On 1/4/24 he wrote:
"Tiffany is worth the time.
She was one of the great masseuses here. She's in 40's, sexy and cute. Tiffany is everything that is written about her and more. Sweet lady that's willing to do what it takes for your and her pleasure. Yes she enjoys it as well. Started off with some shoulder rubbing to break the ice. It quickly turned into a BBBJ which damn near had me. Excellent BBBJ not even a hint of teeth. The cover was on and CG before I knew it. I wanted some Missionary and she was all for it. Tiffany can and will take a good pounding and enjoys it.
Finished off with some more BBBJ and a HJ.
Treat her right and she'll definitely take care of you.Yes sir I actually believe the same thing is happening. Quite obvious.
Pete The Great
02-18-24, 13:31
I'm 95% sure Sevendayswolf is a shill. His account is relatively new, and he keeps posting glowing reviews for Blue Sky Spa. In particular, he posted two word-for-word identical reviews for two different providers:
On 1/4/24 he wrote:
"Tiffany is worth the time.
She was one of the great masseuses here. She's in 40's, sexy and cute. Tiffany is everything that is written about her and more. Sweet lady that's willing to do what it takes for your and her pleasure. Yes she enjoys it as well. Started off with some shoulder rubbing to break the ice. It quickly turned into a BBBJ which damn near had me. Excellent BBBJ not even a hint of teeth. The cover was on and CG before I knew it. I wanted some Missionary and she was all for it. Tiffany can and will take a good pounding and enjoys it.
Finished off with some more BBBJ and a HJ.
Treat her right and she'll definitely take care of you. ".
On 2/8/24 he wrote:
"Wendy is everything that is written about her and more. Sweet lady that's willing to do what it takes for your and her pleasure. Yes she enjoys it as well. Started off with some shoulder rubbing to break the ice. It quickly turned into a BBBJ which damn near had me. Excellent BBBJ not even a hint of teeth. The cover was on and CG before I knew it. I wanted some Missionary and she was all for it. Wendy can and will take a good pounding and enjoys it.
Finished off with some more BBBJ and a HJ.
Treat her right and she'll definitely take care of you. ".
Literally the same words, and more than half of his meager posts are about this one place. Also suspect that TexiMex/Cowboy5 are also shills (possible even the same person using different accounts).
Admins please address this. Can't stand shills / simps!Yes, I agree with StubornMule. The massage forum is littered with shills! Every morning there's glowing reviews for Erma, Blue Sky Spa, Mesa Ridge Ct. , GU Studio, 201 and A to Z, usually from users with just a few posts. Look below at this glowing review of Mesa Ridge Ct. By LovelyL6969, perfect example!
I too suspect it's the same guy. He sometimes gets sloppy trying to keep his many, many handles straight. He'll comment on one of his shill posts with another shill handle, in an effort to try to deceive the public to believe there's more interest in these spa's then there really is. It's disgusting! Admin, please address.
Yes, I agree with StubornMule. The massage forum is littered with shills! Every morning there's glowing reviews for Erma, Blue Sky Spa, Mesa Ridge Ct. , GU Studio, 201 and A to Z, usually from users with just a few posts. Look below at this glowing review of Mesa Ridge Ct. By LovelyL6969, perfect example!
I too suspect it's the same guy. He sometimes gets sloppy trying to keep his many, many handles straight. He'll comment on one of his shill posts with another shill handle, in an effort to try to deceive the public to believe there's more interest in these spa's then there really is. It's disgusting! Admin, please address.I do write many reviews for the spas you mention, but that's simply because I visit the places that are most popular. I would hope that most on this forum don't consider me a shill, but there are places that I frequent purely because they are convenient, tend to have decent talent, and I feel safe entering these stores.
I agree with you when it comes to these shill accounts and it has bothered me for quite some time. I don't get why these store owners feel the need to litter these forums with lots of reviews when I've already written a good review for one of their girls. If you speak with the providers, they are often under this idea as well that more reviews is better for them as well. But this belief is actually quite stupid.
The only reason I started writing reviews is because I don't trust anything I read anymore. I at least will provide people with my description of a girl or the events that happened. I don't need to make anything up as there's no benefit for me to do so.
Maybe we should adopt some sort of approval process to write about spas, I dunno. Call me crazy, but maybe having guys who typically write about certain spas become the "trusted sources" for those spas isn't such a bad idea? I dunno, just thinking out loud. Maybe have a forum sticky post with a list of known trusted sources that people can ask to be put on to help forum members sift through the bullshit reviews.
RolfTorren
02-19-24, 00:52
There's a reason why shills persist. The business model works, until it doesn't. Someone is either a co-owner, owner, or is getting steep discounts. As soon as someone posts about a great experience, and has it backed up by another shill or by themselves using a different account, then that spa's business takes off. In similar fashion, faux reportd of STD infections or bad experiences will torpedo s spa. Weve seen rivals do just that. Keep in mind that the vast majority of local hobbyists contribute nothing, but will happily follow a lead offered here. Once you know how to spot a shill cluster, its kind of obvious. And ironically I will never darken the door of those spas.
I do write many reviews for the spas you mention, but that's simply because I visit the places that are most popular. I would hope that most on this forum don't consider me a shill, but there are places that I frequent purely because they are convenient, tend to have decent talent, and I feel safe entering these stores.
I agree with you when it comes to these shill accounts and it has bothered me for quite some time. I don't get why these store owners feel the need to litter these forums with lots of reviews when I've already written a good review for one of their girls. If you speak with the providers, they are often under this idea as well that more reviews is better for them as well. But this belief is actually quite stupid.
The only reason I started writing reviews is because I don't trust anything I read anymore. I at least will provide people with my description of a girl or the events that happened. I don't need to make anything up as there's no benefit for me to do so.
Maybe we should adopt some sort of approval process to write about spas, I dunno. Call me crazy, but maybe having guys who typically write about certain spas become the "trusted sources" for those spas isn't such a bad idea? I dunno, just thinking out loud. Maybe have a forum sticky post with a list of known trusted sources that people can ask to be put on to help forum members sift through the bullshit reviews.
MaximusKahn
02-21-24, 10:33
I admit I'm not great at spotting shill posts because I don't visit the forum enough to catch the series, but I can spot what may be an over the top review or something that reads too perfect.
My big defense of shill BS is that I don't rush out to a spa just because it gets a great review. Especially if the review is glowing. I'm happy waiting till the rush dies down, and maybe see if there are more posts on the place.
There is also the problem of over advertising. The place becomes famous like VIP did, and suddenly everyone was posting about spontaneous fmf's without extra pay, and the place almost became the only place posted about for a while. Then the competition got jealous, and the shit started and now look, the famous VIP is gone.
One way to stop shills is to call out the BS. If you read a report and its glowing but you go and it's a let down. Post that your experience wasn't as suggested. Yes YMMV, but if they say it's full of young girls and you find only grannies. Well easy enough to call BS.
All in a day of mongering.
There's a reason why shills persist. The business model works, until it doesn't. Someone is either a co-owner, owner, or is getting steep discounts. As soon as someone posts about a great experience, and has it backed up by another shill or by themselves using a different account, then that spa's business takes off. In similar fashion, faux reportd of STD infections or bad experiences will torpedo s spa. Weve seen rivals do just that. Keep in mind that the vast majority of local hobbyists contribute nothing, but will happily follow a lead offered here. Once you know how to spot a shill cluster, its kind of obvious. And ironically I will never darken the door of those spas.
SheriffBart
02-21-24, 11:29
I know a lot of escorts never age (Sexy Sophia has been 39 for at least 3 years) but I just noticed Selma the MILF is now 42. She was 46 the last time I saw her in December. I need birthdays like that.
BBBJ skills? DFK?
Thanks again.Alright, I'm jumping in now- we will see of this guy is FOS.
Alright, I'm jumping in now- we will see of this guy is FOS.Let us know how it goes. I have 600 posts on here and started most of the sub forums in San Diego. I think I'm fairly credible but who knows.
Just wanted to see if anybody has been getting scam calls lately. I've gotten called 4 x's now for asking for a Vincent who drives a Dodge Charger. When I say no, they start asking me the make and model of my vehicle to see if I qualify for something or some bullshit. I "kindly" tell them to go fucks themselves and it would be a cold day in hell before I tell them any personal details. Blocked the number but would get a call from a different number. Just curious if anyone else is getting the same calls.
I appreciate you bro. Don't feed the trolls.
Let us know how it goes. I have 600 posts on here and started most of the sub forums in San Diego. I think I'm fairly credible but who knows.
RChangDatyKing
02-21-24, 21:42
I appreciate you bro. Don't feed the trolls.
Let us know how it goes. I have 600 posts on here and started most of the sub forums in San Diego. I think I'm fairly credible but who knows.What's up, Waylay! I was wondering who the guy was referencing when he said to see if this guy is FOS? I agree with BrianLara, don't feed the trolls. The guy has 41 posts, been here for a quick minute and wants to call out a longtime standing member who has contributed valuable intel to this board and someone who started the FS Spa thread in SD with now almost 300 posts? I too appreciate you brother!
Let us know how it goes. I have 600 posts on here and started most of the sub forums in San Diego. I think I'm fairly credible but who knows.Looks like this chic.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C3jApPcv-Uu/?igsh=NzBmMjdhZWRiYQ==
I give it 7. 5.
Chest like a gymnastics girl.
Good english.
Nice butt.
Smooth skin.
Nothing to write home about.
Well I'm here to say that Waylay is credible IMO. I've read his reviews in this forum and the other 3 letter forum where a lot more details are provided on sessions with providers. I've seen several of the same providers and know his experiences sound solid and honest with no extra BS.
I also want to say that I'm not here to bash or pile on "CCC" as it is a difference in opinions although CCC has a rather strong opinion. One of the guys on this board loves to jump in when he sees a dispute between two hobbyists and take sides then proceed to attack like a tough guy. Which is why I want to reiterate that Waylay is credible but I'm not bashing CCC.
Let us know how it goes. I have 600 posts on here and started most of the sub forums in San Diego. I think I'm fairly credible but who knows.
RChangDatyKing
02-24-24, 11:54
Well I'm here to say that Waylay is credible IMO. I've read his reviews in this forum and the other 3 letter forum where a lot more details are provided on sessions with providers. I've seen several of the same providers and know his experiences sound solid and honest with no extra BS.
I also want to say that I'm not here to bash or pile on "CCC" as it is a difference in opinions although CCC has a rather strong opinion. One of the guys on this board loves to jump in when he sees a dispute between two hobbyists and take sides then proceed to attack like a tough guy. Which is why I want to reiterate that Waylay is credible but I'm not bashing CCC.Okay, I'll play your little girlie games. We all fuckin know you are referring to me. You've continued to take jabs at me and about my posts after I stopped giving you intel. I know you're envious and jealous and you've always wondered how I can pay for all my hobbying. Maybe if you weren't such a weirdo and creep the girls might actually let you fuck them. I know it's sad when they don't even want to fuck you after you give them the donations. You've recently become more upset because you told everyone that Eveline retired when she in fact did not and was only seeing her normal customers. When I told her people missees her and wished she would advertise again she decided to "come out of retirement. " She told you she retired because she didn't want to see you anymore. No wonder why. She's a lady and don't want to have anything to do with you. I'm a fuckin dude with a penis and you continue to stalk me online. Maybe you like penis more than pussy. You're more worried about what my name is, what race I am. I'm on this site to exchange info with other dudes where to find pussy. But you like / want to take jabs at other dudes's post. Go on with your bad self.
You will never achieve my status. I will always get more pussy than you. Yes, I've paid for it like everyone on the site but the girls love my penis and what I do to them. You just creep them out!
Out of your 100 something plus posts. Almost 1/4 of them are to take jabs at me or others. Pathetic! Maybe you should go get laid!
RChangDatyKing
02-24-24, 15:24
There's a reason why shills persist. The business model works, until it doesn't. Someone is either a co-owner, owner, or is getting steep discounts. As soon as someone posts about a great experience, and has it backed up by another shill or by themselves using a different account, then that spa's business takes off. In similar fashion, faux reportd of STD infections or bad experiences will torpedo s spa. Weve seen rivals do just that. Keep in mind that the vast majority of local hobbyists contribute nothing, but will happily follow a lead offered here. Once you know how to spot a shill cluster, its kind of obvious. And ironically I will never darken the door of those spas.Well said RolfT! I think all reviews have some value. I read them but do my own research to see if any were written by trusted mongers. Yes, shills are easy to spot. Just like AmpBlazer who was recently labeled as a shill. All his reviews were for those questionable spas with all the reported bait and switch, girls not providing consistent service, etc but all his reviews were 10/10 for service and 10/10 for looks for all of the girls. Way over the top, very obvious and purposeful of his reviews. Same patterns like the "Dude" with all his fake reviews for Cris and all her girls being 10 for looks and service.
Little man. You're giving me way too much credit. I must be an influencer if she went to all of the trouble of pulling her 100+ reviews from the 3 letter forum then scouring the internet to pull as many of her ads as possible. Anyway, I saw her last Tuesday and it was great.
Okay, I'll play your little girlie games. We all fuckin know you are referring to me. You've continued to take jabs at me and about my posts after I stopped giving you intel. I know you're envious and jealous and you've always wondered how I can pay for all my hobbying. Maybe if you weren't such a weirdo and creep the girls might actually let you fuck them. I know it's sad when they don't even want to fuck you after you give them the donations. You've recently become more upset because you told everyone that Eveline retired when she in fact did not and was only seeing her normal customers. When I told her people missees her and wished she would advertise again she decided to "come out of retirement. " She told you she retired because she didn't want to see you anymore. No wonder why. She's a lady and don't want to have anything to do with you. I'm a fuckin dude with a penis and you continue to stalk me online. Maybe you like penis more than pussy. You're more worried about what my name is, what race I am. I'm on this site to exchange info with other dudes where to find pussy. But you like / want to take jabs at other dudes's post. Go on with your bad self.
You will never achieve my status. I will always get more pussy than you. Yes, I've paid for it like everyone on the site but the girls love my penis and what I do to them. You just creep them out!
Out of your 100 something plus posts. Almost 1/4 of them are to take jabs at me or others. Pathetic! Maybe you should go get laid!
NuruBrowser
02-25-24, 21:32
Little man. You're giving me way too much credit. I must be an influencer if she went to all of the trouble of pulling her 100+ reviews from the 3 letter forum then scouring the internet to pull as many of her ads as possible. Anyway, I saw her last Tuesday and it was great.There's one of these in every city! I do a lot of business in the OC so I tend to do most of my mongering there away from home and there are so many fake and paid reviews there it is ridiculous. There is one particular clown that constantly leaves 5 star reviews and amazing experiences but come to find out, he is their booker / advertiser. Best to find users that you trust and have similar experiences with and follow their reviews or trade intel directly. Just ranting here. Monger on.
RChangDatyKing
02-28-24, 10:39
I received a text from one of my favorite masseuse that works at a nonFS spa to let me know that she has relocated to another spa. She told me that MMS / owner was asking her why customers tipped her so much more than other masseuses there. The customers were tipping her by using their credit cards. The ladies definitely appreciate a big tip but it definitely bring suspicion to MMS when guys tip higher than normal, especially using their credit cards. When at the end of shift MMS sees 2-3 large tips on credit cards for 1 or 2 masseuse it brings attention to them. I always give the tip to the ladies in the room.
RChangDatyKing
02-28-24, 10:52
Several guys have asked me about extras have I gotten with some of my favorite independent FBSM providers. I leave the details out intentionally because it's YMMV. I was talking to 2 of them who I saw this past week and both have in their ads with comments like, extras at my discretion, open minded but discreet and / or menu discuss in person. Both of them told me they do not offer extras or upgrades to everyone and both said they want to be in the mood and to have / feel some chemistry with a customer if they will be offering FS, kissing, etc. If you like their ad / pictures and good reviews from mongers you trust I recommend making the appointment and asking the ladies when you're there. Good luck!
MaximusKahn
02-28-24, 12:02
When you're getting FS at a non-FS spa from one of your UTR girls you have to consider all aspects of discretion.
Keeping the secret of course, but also the less obvious things.
Keep the noise down, wild aggressive sex has a sound all of it's own, so with your UTR you'll both have to keep it quiet. A rhythmic squeaky table is a dead give away.
Keep to the regular pattern of massages. Does she leave at Half time to get a hot towel, to remove oil, before the flip as is normal?
No pubic displays of affection anywhere outside of the room. Even what you say and how you say it when you greet them or leave can give others a clue how close you've become.
How often you go may make her stand out.
I don't recommend any gifts other can see, like bringing her flowers, or candy, or meals as that could expose how close you feel to her. Cash handed to her in the room is a gift she'll like anytime.
And as it has been brought up, if the tip is on a credit card and is larger than usual, it will stand out. I work with cash, but everyone can't do that. So plan a regular tip on the credit card, but have additional cash to give it to her in the room. MMS will see a regular tip, but the extra will be a secret.
If you text with your UTR to arrange an appointment, that's great, but also call MMS on the business line to set up an appointment. I think it is best if MMS isn't aware you're in direct communication with your UTR.
Once I find a girl I like at a place I tend to only see her. But if you want to throw MMS off the trail go and see another girl and get what ever you get. This will break the pattern that you only see one.
Happy Mongering, enjoy your UTRs.
Several guys have asked me about extras have I gotten with some of my favorite independent FBSM providers. I leave the details out intentionally because it's YMMV. I was talking to 2 of them who I saw this past week and both have in their ads with comments like, extras at my discretion, open minded but discreet and / or menu discuss in person. Both of them told me they do not offer extras or upgrades to everyone and both said they want to be in the mood and to have / feel some chemistry with a customer if they will be offering FS, kissing, etc. If you like their ad / pictures and good reviews from mongers you trust I recommend making the appointment and asking the ladies when you're there. Good luck!King, for the FBSM providers that don't advertise extras or say no FS. Do you ask about upgrades during the first visit? If I think a provider is hot and worth repeating I usually make a move on the second or third visit.
RChangDatyKing
02-29-24, 02:53
King, for the FBSM providers that don't advertise extras or say no FS. Do you ask about upgrades during the first visit? If I think a provider is hot and worth repeating I usually make a move on the second or third visit.Hey Bane! I'm assuming when you say upgrades that you are referring to more than just a nude massage w / a handy release. For me, it depends on how the session starts and progresses will determine when I will ask about extras. I do try to make small talk to see if the provider engages in conversation. If there are mirrors in the room I will let her know I like the placements of the mirrors and I like how they show off her sexy body, etc. I also limit the mutual touching until I see how the provider does her body slides. If I'm on my stomach and she's sitting on my back or legs with her bare kitty, sliding on my body then I know it's a good sign that extras are available. I also let both my arms hang off the table and if the provider brushes on them often or allow them to go between her legs touching her kitty then I know it's a good sign that extras might be available. If after the flip and her touches become more sensual and playful and / or she is sitting on my stomach in RCG playing with junior and allowing me to touch her butt, then I'll give compliments about how nice her booty looks and let her know I love the view of her exposed kitty, etc. If she spread more for me to see I will make comments about how good they look and to taste, etc. LOL. If any of these occur during the session then I'll ask. Yes, all these happened. LOL.
If the provider doesn't engage in conversation much at the first appointment then I will let her do her thing. If she's hot then I'll repeat at least a second time. If she opens up on the 2nd visit then I'll repeat the 3rd time quickly if she hasn't already brought up extras on the 2nd visit. I usually know by the 2nd visit if extras will be available. If not, I won't repeat with an independent. I posted about my experience with one independent where I repeated with her 3 times in one day and during the 3rd visit she asked if I wanted to fuck her. LOL. We now have sex about 50 percent of the time I see her. I say "about 50%" because I don't ever schedule a VIP appointment. The sex thing happens naturally because we both want it. I also never do 30 minutes sessions. It doesn't allow for the getting to "know you" with the provider.
I have not met an independent FBSM provider that didn't offer extras (meaning more than a handy) sometimes in their massage "career. " Again these are just the ones I have personally seen 3 or more visits. Many have the 3rd dates rule. LOL.
Hope this makes sense. Trying to respond late when I should already be asleep because I have an early start tomorrow.
I will only repeat, even when there's no extras, if the provider's massage is really good, like at an AMP just for the massage / handy and will tip accordingly.
Lascivious
03-01-24, 01:17
Hello, Sugar!
Fuck me now 👉 HERE, sweetie ❤.
Anyone else get this?
MaximusKahn
03-01-24, 11:35
Hello, Sugar!
Fuck me now 👉 HERE, sweetie ❤.
Anyone else get this?I'm sure you are doing this, but iF you don't know the number they are coming from, block them. Someone, somewhere, shared your number.
I do get suggestive spam texts every once in a while from unknown numbers, but not that explicit. I block them all immediately.
And like other active hobbists, I get the "hello darling" or the "I miss you" texts from my regulars. Even though I know who these are from, I interpret them as, it's slow here, or I need some money. Sometimes I have been away for a while and think she really does miss me. I will usually respond with something nice, but I don't show up when called. I let them know I'll see them when I can. Then maybe show up or make an appointment in a week or so. I don't want to be that dog who comes right away every-time he's called.
I don't monger with the intent to know all the women, or go around charming all the MMS so they know what I "like" or make it a point of viewing all the girls to make my selection, so I seldom get the "new girls" texts. That to me is also a call for your money. I don't worry about them.
Just know, any number you use, can be shared, and they do track numbers. Consider a burner, or google number.
Well said. You're especially spot on with the interpretation "it's slow here or I need some money".
I'm sure you are doing this, but iF you don't know the number they are coming from, block them. Someone, somewhere, shared your number.
I do get suggestive spam texts every once in a while from unknown numbers, but not that explicit. I block them all immediately.
And like other active hobbists, I get the "hello darling" or the "I miss you" texts from my regulars. Even though I know who these are from, I interpret them as, it's slow here, or I need some money. Sometimes I have been away for a while and think she really does miss me. I will usually respond with something nice, but I don't show up when called. I let them know I'll see them when I can. Then maybe show up or make an appointment in a week or so. I don't want to be that dog who comes right away every-time he's called.
I don't monger with the intent to know all the women, or go around charming all the MMS so they know what I "like" or make it a point of viewing all the girls to make my selection, so I seldom get the "new girls" texts. That to me is also a call for your money. I don't worry about them.
Just know, any number you use, can be shared, and they do track numbers. Consider a burner, or google number.
May be a stupid question for veteran mongers who have been in the game a while, but for relatively new guys like me, I just wanted to know how you guys deal with kissing providers that consistently provide rimming and / or CIM? For me, DFK is something that helps me alot in getting in the mood for a session, so it's something I look for in a provider, but when I read that she also offers rimming and CIM, it makes me reluctant to see her because I don't trust that she does a thorough cleaning before each appointment. For example, Giyo from SDAG, I am reading on other review sites that she does rimming and toe sucking without requiring clients to take a shower. Holy smokes. Do you guys just block it out of memory? Accept it as part of the game? Or do you not care?
ToddRichards12
03-06-24, 14:52
May be a stupid question for veteran mongers who have been in the game a while, but for relatively new guys like me, I just wanted to know how you guys deal with kissing providers that consistently provide rimming and / or CIM? For me, DFK is something that helps me alot in getting in the mood for a session, so it's something I look for in a provider, but when I read that she also offers rimming and CIM, it makes me reluctant to see her because I don't trust that she does a thorough cleaning before each appointment. For example, Giyo from SDAG, I am reading on other review sites that she does rimming and toe sucking without requiring clients to take a shower. Holy smokes. Do you guys just block it out of memory? Accept it as part of the game? Or do you not care?For me, it's simple. I enjoy a good GFE session with DFK so I just don't see providers who offer rimming or CIM.
If I get the urge for a CIM session, then I refrain from kissing during that session.
RChangDatyKing
03-06-24, 14:59
May be a stupid question for veteran mongers who have been in the game a while, but for relatively new guys like me, I just wanted to know how you guys deal with kissing providers that consistently provide rimming and / or CIM? For me, DFK is something that helps me alot in getting in the mood for a session, so it's something I look for in a provider, but when I read that she also offers rimming and CIM, it makes me reluctant to see her because I don't trust that she does a thorough cleaning before each appointment. For example, Giyo from SDAG, I am reading on other review sites that she does rimming and toe sucking without requiring clients to take a shower. Holy smokes. Do you guys just block it out of memory? Accept it as part of the game? Or do you not care?I will only kiss a provider if we both do a blue toast at the start of the session.
For me, it's simple. I enjoy a good GFE session with DFK so I just don't see providers who offer rimming or CIM.
If I get the urge for a CIM session, then I refrain from kissing during that session.Appreciate the feedback. I guess I'm wondering how other mongers still DFK even after knowing the provider provides rimming or CIM. I'll chalk it up to being in the heat of the moment.
RolfTorren
03-06-24, 23:37
I try not to think about it too much. I really enjoy daty, and find it opens some doors to great experiences. But I try not to think about the fact that some random dick has been there within the last hour. Same thing with dfk. I love it, and find it really gets me hard. I guess its one reason why my preferred locations for FS these days offer table showers in which the provider gets naked and slides all over you. So I know she's nice and clean. Never caught anything, but I guess I've been lucky. If I thought about it too much I'd probably just stick to non-FS providers.
May be a stupid question for veteran mongers who have been in the game a while, but for relatively new guys like me, I just wanted to know how you guys deal with kissing providers that consistently provide rimming and / or CIM? For me, DFK is something that helps me alot in getting in the mood for a session, so it's something I look for in a provider, but when I read that she also offers rimming and CIM, it makes me reluctant to see her because I don't trust that she does a thorough cleaning before each appointment. For example, Giyo from SDAG, I am reading on other review sites that she does rimming and toe sucking without requiring clients to take a shower. Holy smokes. Do you guys just block it out of memory? Accept it as part of the game? Or do you not care?
I will only kiss a provider if we both do a blue toast at the start of the session.I hear you on that one, but that's difficult sometimes when she comes at you aggressively and starts kissing you right away. May have to put the brakes on that from now on.
RChangDatyKing
03-07-24, 10:41
I hear you on that one, but that's difficult sometimes when she comes at you aggressively and starts kissing you right away. May have to put the brakes on that from now on.I have not been to a FS spa in almost a year, but the ones that I have gone to all do the blue toast. Also, I never do 30 minutes so I always get to do a shower with my providers so both of us are clean and minty fresh. All the AAMPs do the blue toast as well before the showers so I'm good there.
I go see independent FBSM providers and "providers" at nonFS spas as of late. These ladies are YMMV when it comes to GFE experiences. I carry individual mouthwash to my appointments and leave them out with my tips when I am seeing regulars that I know I am going to kiss, enjoy mutual oral with, etc.
MaximusKahn
03-07-24, 10:53
Personally I don't entertain providers who allow CIM, or CIP action. Bare in any way is too risky for me.
I definitely would not kiss let alone DFK any provider who gives RIM, performs BBBJs, and certainly not one who allows a CIM finish.
That said, I don't DATY any regular full service provider, and certainly not one who accepts BBFS sex, or BBCIP action.
I always seek the girl less traveled.
But to each their own.
May be a stupid question for veteran mongers who have been in the game a while, but for relatively new guys like me, I just wanted to know how you guys deal with kissing providers that consistently provide rimming and / or CIM? For me, DFK is something that helps me alot in getting in the mood for a session, so it's something I look for in a provider, but when I read that she also offers rimming and CIM, it makes me reluctant to see her because I don't trust that she does a thorough cleaning before each appointment. For example, Giyo from SDAG, I am reading on other review sites that she does rimming and toe sucking without requiring clients to take a shower. Holy smokes. Do you guys just block it out of memory? Accept it as part of the game? Or do you not care?
All valid points. Will definitely take into consideration in future sessions.
I think he might be a monger. LOL.
RChangDatyKing
03-11-24, 19:52
I think he might be a monger. LOL.That's funny! It could also be a provider who likes being fingered. LOL.
I wonder if those that aren't in the hobby scene will know what FIV is. LOL.
MaximusKahn
03-12-24, 08:18
I think he might be a monger. LOL.Little red car, my guess is that it would be a provider.
Personally I don't entertain providers who allow CIM, or CIP action. Bare in any way is too risky for me.
I definitely would not kiss let alone DFK any provider who gives RIM, performs BBBJs, and certainly not one who allows a CIM finish.
That said, I don't DATY any regular full service provider, and certainly not one who accepts BBFS sex, or BBCIP action.
I always seek the girl less traveled.
But to each their own.She uses Listerine for at least 30 seconds. Saw her twice and she also gives a thorough scrubbing to you and herself after the fun time.
She is a bucket list for sure. Never been with anyone like her.
She uses Listerine for at least 30 seconds. Saw her twice and she also gives a thorough scrubbing to you and herself after the fun time.I think key word here is AFTER the fun time. I've read a few reviews on "the other site" that she will do foot licking and rimming without requiring the client to shower beforehand. That is wild to me. As Maximus said, "to each his own".
LipLover 88
03-14-24, 06:18
She uses Listerine for at least 30 seconds. Saw her twice and she also gives a thorough scrubbing to you and herself after the fun time.
She is a bucket list for sure. Never been with anyone like her.Good morning T. M. V. Question, where can I find this woman would very much appreciate it. Thank you. Happy hunting.
Lascivious
03-21-24, 19:19
Personally I don't entertain providers who allow CIM, or CIP action. Bare in any way is too risky for me.
I definitely would not kiss let alone DFK any provider who gives RIM, performs BBBJs, and certainly not one who allows a CIM finish.
That said, I don't DATY any regular full service provider, and certainly not one who accepts BBFS sex, or BBCIP action.
I always seek the girl less traveled.
But to each their own.The great Mina from the old VIP days did some awesome rimming. It was more than just tickling the rim. She and most others surreptitiously use a condom on their tongue.
Monica at Unique did some amazing back-door tounge action. She was wild. She probably didn't use one but who knows? Best table shower ever, that while jacking it and then some good DT action.
I don’t generally don’t kiss and never DATY.
The thread below on rimming got me thinking. I miss the old smile spa Annie / Anna used to lift my legs up on her shoulders and rim like it was going out of style. What happened to those gilfs that used to work there?
Specifically Coco, she had long curly hair, thin, hairy Bush. Anybody know? Looks like new ownership happened right before covid. New business model now. Manny.
I think he might be a monger. LOL.These days everyone is a **** and know what fiv is.
SheriffBart
03-24-24, 16:45
My inbox had a message this morning from "XxsDorothysx" that said "Hi, Sweet!" in the subject line and said "fuck me HERE sweetie" with a link embedded. No way I'm clicking on that. Did anyone else get a message today (or recently)?
LipLover 88
03-25-24, 05:49
My inbox had a message this morning from "XxsDorothysx" that said "Hi, Sweet!" in the subject line and said "fuck me HERE sweetie" with a link embedded. No way I'm clicking on that. Did anyone else get a message today (or recently)?Good morning SVS I did receive a weird message deleted it.
I think he might be a monger. LOL.I used to see that car on my morning commute before the pandemic. Then I saw it in my company's parking garage. Then I saw who got out. Always wanted to find some way to determine if he was a hobbyist, but didn't want to out myself.
MaximusKahn
03-26-24, 07:38
Good morning SVS I did receive a weird message deleted it.Junk with a potentially dangerous link in it.
NudeBeachPerv
04-14-24, 19:29
Hello Everyone,
We are approaching the time of year where there will be some great beach days. A few days back was one of those days, unfortunately there was a stabbing at Blacks Beach.
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/one-person-in-custody-after-blacks-beach-stabbing/
This will likely mean more police presence in the upcoming weeks.
Trusty Hairlip
04-15-24, 11:49
Just seems very similar to me in posting style and dissing certain providers / pushing others.
MaximusKahn
04-16-24, 11:26
Thanks for sharing this, not much protection when you're naked.
People are crazy, and going nuts, so everyone be careful.
Hello Everyone,
We are approaching the time of year where there will be some great beach days. A few days back was one of those days, unfortunately there was a stabbing at Blacks Beach.
https://fox5sandiego.com/news/local-news/one-person-in-custody-after-blacks-beach-stabbing/
This will likely mean more police presence in the upcoming weeks.
NudeBeachPerv
04-19-24, 15:25
Thanks for sharing this, not much protection when you're naked.
People are crazy, and going nuts, so everyone be careful.It's unfortunate that wherever we go we must stay on alert these days.
There's more on reddit if you want to read up on it:
https://www.reddit.com/r/blacksbeach/comments/1c1xu6s/stabbing_more_information/
Good morning T. M. V. Question, where can I find this woman would very much appreciate it. Thank you. Happy hunting.I texted her and she is in OC working now but will be coming back to San Diego in a month or two.
Sir Bishop
04-20-24, 13:58
Just seems very similar to me in posting style and dissing certain providers / pushing others.That is a very good catch. Looking at the posting style and who is dissed or even shilled, yup.
That is a very good catch. Looking at the posting style and who is dissed or even shilled, yup.My list of reviews here.
Healthy massage. Snow.
Sdag Giyo.
Hans Mali.
Alley Cici.
SDAG Precious.
LollyGirls Rocky Amor.
Capri Spa Ella and Sophia.
Friars Massage Ella.
F Spa Coco.
Level 2 Sophia.
Porn Star Christy Love.
Luxe Spa Baby.
Alyson / Miyuki.
Kiki Latina now going by Bibi on RR.
FEC Diva.
Sandra99 Emily.
MBC Gigi.
Asian Mya on Miramar.
Black Mya in KM.
Arjons Julie.
FEC Amy.
SDAG Dallas and Jaine.
Sakura Wendy.
SAG Japanese Hite.
So those are the reviews that I've currently left, not sure which of these means that I am a shill although I still don't know the definition of that word LOL.
I googled it and it says a con man LOL.
I will keep contributing like a good hunting dog, and others can play high school drama.
DrPornDawger
04-26-24, 16:41
I've been telling my client's this thing all the time.
They don't need the pimps.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2r2Nfel8-sE&t=1201s
DrPornDawger
04-26-24, 21:09
Is that the same thing as wanking off to porn videos or magazines?
ArrogantBstrd
04-29-24, 13:33
I travel a lot. My dick has taken me on walks through several dark, sketchy alleys and roads. We have still have to maintain our situational awareness and street smarts.
Here's a screen shot of one of my favorites from one of my recent travels. They sent death threats and a bunch of goodies. They sent this message after I declined their rates. This isn't in San Diego, but I'm sure there are scammers here:
Trusty Hairlip
04-29-24, 19:25
My list of reviews here.
Healthy massage. Snow.
Sdag Giyo.
Hans Mali.
Alley Cici.
SDAG Precious.
LollyGirls Rocky Amor.
Capri Spa Ella and Sophia.
Friars Massage Ella.
F Spa Coco.
Level 2 Sophia.
Porn Star Christy Love.
Luxe Spa Baby.
Alyson / Miyuki.Same kind of post from the dude here http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?32870-Stupid-Shit-In-San-Diego&p=5808576&viewfull=1#post5808576.
I travel a lot. My dick has taken me on walks through several dark, sketchy alleys and roads. We have still have to maintain our situational awareness and street smarts.
Here's a screen shot of one of my favorites from one of my recent travels. They sent death threats and a bunch of goodies. They sent this message after I declined their rates. This isn't in San Diego, but I'm sure there are scammers here:I've recieved a few of these when asking rates. It's a scam. I just ignore it. They are most likely in China anyhow.
NudeBeachPerv
05-05-24, 19:59
This video is hilarious even though it has nothing to do with mongering or San Diego.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=576&v=2Um-0QlZjnU&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.aaronsleazy.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title
(Hopefully OK to post in Stupid Sh! T.).
This video is hilarious even though it has nothing to do with mongering or San Diego.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=576&v=2Um-0QlZjnU&embeds_referring_euri=https%3A%2F%2Fblog.aaronsleazy.com%2F&source_ve_path=MjM4NTE&feature=emb_title
(Hopefully OK to post in Stupid Sh! T.).Wow, that is disgusting. There's got to be a reason for that, like no bathrooms around for miles. Like seriously, can you not wait for the elevator to get to the lobby or your room to use the bathroom? Luckily the Chinese ladies we see are more hygienic than that, at least the one's I've seen. Haven't had one that straight smells like shit *knock on wood.
MaximusKahn
05-16-24, 09:18
I admit, I'm one of the mongers who won't miss DATY Boy. Didn't follow why he got banned, but I do know he and I jousted a few times over stupid shit. No winner, just some entertaining shit flinging. The type of immature cock measuring that annoys everyone else.
I will say that he did share some good advice when it came to treating women right. He had sever grandiose delusions about his importance in the mongering community and his value to this site, but from what I read in some of his posts, was that he always encouraged treating the women right. In those posts I though he contributed in a good way.
He also gave good reminders to observe the Chinese holidays and how you can please the women.
I won't be surprised when he pops up with a new handle form a new IP address. There is no doubt these days he's reading these posts as a full-fledged lurker.
NudeBeachPerv
05-28-24, 11:35
Went to BB this memorial day. It was crowded as well as cloudy and overcast. Very few people were naked and even less beautiful woman. If you go to BB, go with the expectation of good excursive hiking the trail and you won't be let down if you don't see beauties. You may but it is far from guaranteed.
Here is my complaint, the beach is pack in pack out but dozens of dumbasses left their half eaten lunches and beer bottles in the sand. Clean up your sh!t, these are probably the same dumbasses who leave their condoms on the floor at sex parties.
Is that the same thing as wanking off to porn videos or magazines?I have, years ago, with inexpensive European women. Usually in Siberia or eastern Europe. Basically you talk to them online on webcam and then ask them to take their clothes off and then they ask to see you on cam and to take your dick out and so on.
Not my proudest wank and yeah major limitations but it is slightly better than rubbing one out alone and it can cost about $30. Or about what gets you a bbbj in tj LOL.
Now that genAI is a thing presumably this will be a similar service offered via purely computer generated women. Again it's no substitute but it's extremely cheap.
Ace McNasty
05-30-24, 15:03
Win stupid prizes.
San Diego Police Officer resigns after getting locked in the backseat of his police cruiser for over an hour with a woman who he had arrested. Officer PoPo Cop arrested the woman due to a suspected car theft. On the way to police headquarters, the woman could be heard in the backseat telling Cop that she wanted to have sex.
Woman: Are you single?
Cop: Yeah. But you're not.
Woman: I'm down to fuck right now.
Cop then pulled down a residential street and turned his car and bodycam off. After about 20 minutes, Cop called a fellow officer asking if he had a master key to open the back door of his police cruiser because he had locked himself in. The officer arrived and opened the back door, finding Cop with the woman in the back seat. Throughout the investigation, Cop claims he was just "checking" on the woman and claimed the door accidentally locked behind him. The San Diego Police Department however found traces of semen on his belt. He later resigned.
(I doubt if either of these 2 Einsteins had a rubber on them, so you know the action in the San Diego PD cruiser was some nasty bbfscip pleasure oh yeah)! The hour long post-nut clarity in the backseat must have been super awkward while waiting for backup to arrive to unlock the door from the outside LOL. And the chick suspect still went to jail despite giving up her pussy, or would this case be dismissed? Can't imagine the prosecutor would add more insult to injury by having Cop testify and the defense grilling him on what positions they fucked, mish? Doggie? CG? How was her BJ skills?
Bad boys, bad boys, watchagonnado, watchagonnado when they CUM for you. All suspects are innocent until proven guilty in a court of law. All names have been redacted but if you do a Search I suggest clicking on the FOXLAnews link. It has all the videos and pictures LOL.
That is one of the gayest threats I have ever seen. He was sad that he wasn't going to get fed by her after that.
I travel a lot. My dick has taken me on walks through several dark, sketchy alleys and roads. We have still have to maintain our situational awareness and street smarts.
Here's a screen shot of one of my favorites from one of my recent travels. They sent death threats and a bunch of goodies. They sent this message after I declined their rates. This isn't in San Diego, but I'm sure there are scammers here:
When I try to access this site on mobile, I get a quick alert saying "deceptive website warning" and it immediately hits 'back' and I go back to wherever I was. IPhone user and its in the safari browser. Maybe specific to that combo since everything works fine on desktop. Anyone else dealing with this? It's a recent issue.
InstinctGoku
06-12-24, 18:42
When I try to access this site on mobile, I get a quick alert saying "deceptive website warning" and it immediately hits 'back' and I go back to wherever I was. IPhone user and its in the safari browser. Maybe specific to that combo since everything works fine on desktop. Anyone else dealing with this? It's a recent issue.I have the same issue. I let the page load to the deceptive website and let it take me back.
I then press the "forward" button and it'll load the website.
When I try to access this site on mobile, I get a quick alert saying "deceptive website warning" and it immediately hits 'back' and I go back to wherever I was. IPhone user and its in the safari browser. Maybe specific to that combo since everything works fine on desktop. Anyone else dealing with this? It's a recent issue.I reported it and was told they are working on it, but the problem is only with Safari so if you can use Opera or other browser it will work. So I switched to Opera and all is good again.
When I try to access this site on mobile, I get a quick alert saying "deceptive website warning" and it immediately hits 'back' and I go back to wherever I was. IPhone user and its in the safari browser. Maybe specific to that combo since everything works fine on desktop. Anyone else dealing with this? It's a recent issue.I have same problem.
TugSpinosa
06-13-24, 10:34
I have same problem.Safari users need to turn off fraudulent website warning.
Safari users need to turn off fraudulent website warning.Thanks. That worked.
NineInches
06-25-24, 19:39
https://www.sandiego.gov/sites/default/files/2024-01/nr240130a.pdf
Tried early morning and only got error message.
Tried just now again and page doesn't load.
I just hope we didn't lose that valuable site.
It's up again with functionality errors. Seems it was only a technical issue and not a govt action.
Tried early morning and only got error message.
Tried just now again and page doesn't load.
I just hope we didn't lose that valuable site.
She was a fine a fine Vietnamese Beauty. I think maybe part Latina. Her service was not stupid but here is what I remember the first time I met her. It was I think at that CA hotel or something off CMB where Ariana and her friend would be at. Anyways found her off if I think back then was CL or BP. And when I got to the room she was laying on the bed all naked. I closed the door took all my clothes off quickly and she showed me her clit ring and right when I was about to get a piece of her. All of a sudden all I could here were all these loud footsteps and the the door bursted open with like 6 to 10 hoodrats saying' "is everything ok?" Then Jennysjuicy waved her hand and told them, "He cool. " WTF. I was able still enjoy the HH. This is probably almost 20 years ago and I thought I saw her post about a year or so ago on HX. Wondered if she might be looking good like that still.
The weirdest thing too is I think I may have first met her before she became a stripper or CL girl off a party line. I could if sworn it was her. But if it was her I remember picking her up and she wanted Starbucks and somehow ended up at a park. She wanted to talk to a black dude and she was taking so long so I left her there. I wasn't too patient back then. But then again maybe she thought I was nerdy or something. Anyways small world but I think she was the same person.
Is little Trina still around? Another weird encounter. This was a little Cambodian hottie Anyways this was almost 20 years ago too. I remember finding her in CL back when one rose went a long way. Got to the room. She had this little necklace with her parents pictures In it. She was so hot man I wanted to take her home. Anyways I remember her hopping on me bare and I was in heaven. After about 10 minutes no joke these two Mexican guys start banging on the door and open it and she tells me to get distressed quick said don't let him see you. WTF? So I leave and around the corner as I am walking I see this brother walking there swiftly like he was about to kick some ass. WTF. Didn't even get to cum.
Saw her another time maybe a year or two later at a different spot and she acted a little distant. She had a baby bump but still looked good though Anyways I saw the same dude was there so I'm sure he approves of her work. And my friend who is white got her too with no problems.
Anyways now I see some porn videos with the same guy probably her man. She can take a dick for sure and makes her do this but why would a pimp be so jealous? Just thought that was stupid.
Later saw her on HX. Is she still around?
Anyone else out to have an incredible time with some HX girls and then later it seems like they are trying to tell you something?. Is it just me? Here are a few examples. I've pulled some crazy good ones over the years. But here are a few examples.
* when I'm leaving "button up your shirt. Don't let him see you.
*"you got to change your phone."
*"they are recording".
* when I arrive, "follow me. Unbutton your jacket. I do t normally see guys like you" mind you I have pumped this girl more than two times.
* after I have an amazing time I get a text later from booker saying, "I don't like what you said in there. " LOL WTF.
She was a hot Cambodian or Laotian girl. Maybe 5 ft 90#. Anyways she was fun. One day I bumped into her and her and a big brother at a casino while playing blackjack. I did not speak to her or know if she recognized me but I recognized her. , she was kind of hiding behind a chair and I know her panties were wet. I Don't know if he recognized me but he said, "it was written. " Anyways wish I got that one a little more. Anyone know if that was her pimp or maybe she was doing seeking arrangement.
Anyone else out to have an incredible time with some HX girls and then later it seems like they are trying to tell you something?. Is it just me? Here are a few examples. I've pulled some crazy good ones over the years. But here are a few examples.Hi, I can translate:
* when I'm leaving "button up your shirt. Don't let him see you.
Be discreet or the pimp gets mad.
*"you got to change your phone. ".
I'm superficial and so should you.
*"they are recording".
Pimp has an audio feed for safety. It's also to make sure other pimps don't recruit her or guys try to take her out and cut out the middle man. Nobody would keep such recordings, would be too stupid. In California it's a misdemeanor for the girl and guy, a felony for the pimp.
* "Unbutton your jacket. I don't normally see guys like you" mind you I have pumped this girl more than two times.
You get undressed first to reassure me. You have a huge cock and I love it.
* after I have an amazing time I get a text later from booker saying, "I don't like what you said in there. " LOL WTF.
You stretched her pussy loose after her booker thought he had already made it loose with his tiny cock. "Oh you so tight I must be your first guy..now you so loose that's better" as you speak into the mic. He don't like hearing that. No sir.
Welcome.
Hi, I can translate:
* when I'm leaving "button up your shirt. Don't let him see you.
Be discreet or the pimp gets mad.
*"you got to change your phone. ".
I'm superficial and so should you.
*"they are recording".
Pimp has an audio feed for safety and also because they are insecure you will ask her to see you outside without the middleman. Two birds in one. I want to point out the obvious no way they will record video, because you don't record your own crimes and pimping is a lot more serious than solicitation anyways. But audio, all you can hear is two people having fun missing the key parts. And if someone cared about the first two reasons they would still delete the evidence if it went as planned. The business is about turning as many tricks as possible without problems, not to cause problems.
* "Unbutton your jacket. I don't normally see guys like you" mind you I have pumped this girl more than two times.
You get undressed first to reassure me. You have a huge cock and I love it.
* after I have an amazing time I get a text later from booker saying, "I don't like what you said in there. " LOL WTF.
You stretched her pussy loose after her booker thought he had already made it loose with his tiny cock.
Welcome.Awesome. Thanks. Here's another question.
1) Why did troothsayrz transition to HX? Didn't seem like the system was broken but I do like HX better by the way. HX is great.
Now what are the chances if this happening? One day I went to the MCRD exchange with my parents (yeah I'm a mommas boy) and while I was in the parking lot this gangsta dude kept staring at me. I thought he was staring me down so I went up to him. Hey how you doing. He was being nice and I said so you got some girls we can talk to tonight? He said yeah and I gave him my beeper number. Yeah this is a long time ago. Next thing I know he beeps me and says we can meet up with this girl. (Yea the girl I saw at the races). Anyways we climbed into her window and she was sucking both of us off. I was able to come back a couple of times and pound her well and another time pound the shit out of her when I was still living with my parents. How on earth does that happen?
It sucks getting old. Really miss those times and it does feel great when we find a gem out there that makes us feel like we still might have it. I remember giving my friend one of them because I was overwhelmed. Oh where are they now. ? This is so stupid. Why do they all want money nowadays?
They acted like big tech, facebook and twitter. They removed my access. I was a Senior member there too. I had dozens of reviews. No explanation. Just bang "you have violated our standards. ". Their whole reason to exist is for reviews of hookers. I had written quite a few in the weeks prior to my membership being terminated so I have no idea what it was. Or if it was even an inconveniently worded review. At this point I have left that website for good. I won't even fake up a new alias to get back on let's go brandon ter.
It's up again with functionality errors. Seems it was only a technical issue and not a govt action.
Trusty Hairlip
07-15-24, 17:57
Just thought I'd pass this tip along.
I like to monitor certain websites for content change, and then have any content changes trigger an alert to me. I do this to stay on top of availability changes for various providers (SDAG for example). I also use some configuration to alert me to specific ladies becoming available. For example, I have an alert in place to tell me if Petra / Flynn ever shows up again (this is a text filter). My standard alerts are triggered on comparing snapshots of the webpage from one day to the next and comparing the images for differences. I also pick up all the text on a page, so I can trigger alerts on that (the Petra example). I use some pretty straightforward python code and libraries to do this along with tools including selenium. I run my check only once a day, so as to not abuse a website and be. Nuisance.
Since I am an IT nerd and do this kind of thing as my job I built this system using my own code. But there is a site called visualping. Io that does what my code does with various tiers of service with associated increase in cost. They have a free tier to try, so give it a look if this sounds useful. I have no involvement with visualping, but I started using this site couple years back and it was the impetus for me creating my own version. Visualping is very graphically oriented and easy to configure compared to my bare-bones approach in my custom solution, so it would be easy for anyone to setup if this was of interest.
Never had car dates.
How do you choose a spot for car dates?
I want to experience but bit anxious.
Please share your stories and advise.
NineInches
08-01-24, 15:57
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cnk4en7ev3po
MaximusKahn
08-07-24, 09:40
I read many posts, the good and the bad, and usually find it easy to sense the attitude of the author.
Guys who write reasonably good or even bad realistic posts seem to possess a good attitude about the hobby and especially about the women in general. Yes there are bad experiences, and bad providers, but they are explained with a realistic attitude.
Then you spot the guys who seem to complain about stupid stuff, or whine about not being treated as they felt they should be treated, or are pissed the girl didn't give them all they wanted the way they wanted it. You can sense their contempt or even misogynistic views of women just by the way they write their reviews. The guys are angry to begin with, and it shows.
I'd bet they are creating their own problems and disappointment by showing their open contempt for women. Women sense how we think of them by the way we speak to them. Our own behavior and attitude gives them clues, to like, dislike, or even fear us. So if you have contempt for the women, the business, or have hostile attitudes, the women will pick up on that and guess what. Treat you differently than a guy who they feel they can trust.
So, if you are one of those guys who has contempt for women or is misogynistic, I suggest learning to hide it well if you want a better experience with women. Just because you're paying for it, doesn't mean you can get anything you want or can do anything you want. They have the final word in most cases. If you want to leave happier, start by walking in the door happy.
Rey KittyHawk
08-08-24, 09:56
Never Try to Teach a Pig to Sing, It wastes your time, and it annoys the pig.
I read many posts, the good and the bad, and usually find it easy to sense the attitude of the author.
Guys who write reasonably good or even bad realistic posts seem to possess a good attitude about the hobby and especially about the women in general. Yes there are bad experiences, and bad providers, but they are explained with a realistic attitude...
...So, if you are one of those guys who has contempt for women or is misogynistic, I suggest learning to hide it well if you want a better experience with women. Just because you're paying for it, doesn't mean you can get anything you want or can do anything you want. They have the final word in most cases. If you want to leave happier, start by walking in the door happy.
BluesBalls
08-08-24, 21:01
I read many posts, the good and the bad, and usually find it easy to sense the attitude of the author.
Guys who write reasonably good or even bad realistic posts seem to possess a good attitude about the hobby and especially about the women in general. Yes there are bad experiences, and bad providers, but they are explained with a realistic attitude.
Then you spot the guys who seem to complain about stupid stuff, or whine about not being treated as they felt they should be treated, or are pissed the girl didn't give them all they wanted the way they wanted it. You can sense their contempt or even misogynistic views of women just by the way they write their reviews. The guys are angry to begin with, and it shows.
I'd bet they are creating their own problems and disappointment by showing their open contempt for women. Women sense how we think of them by the way we speak to them. Our own behavior and attitude gives them clues, to like, dislike, or even fear us. So if you have contempt for the women, the business, or have hostile attitudes, the women will pick up on that and guess what. Treat you differently than a guy who they feel they can trust.
So, if you are one of those guys who has contempt for women or is misogynistic, I suggest learning to hide it well if you want a better experience with women. Just because you're paying for it, doesn't mean you can get anything you want or can do anything you want. They have the final word in most cases. If you want to leave happier, start by walking in the door happy.Agree with your sentiment, disagree with your advice.
Never tell guys to hide their misogyny unless you're also a misogynist. Guys displaying that, as you said, is how women get a sense of the guy. If a guy comes off misogynistic then the woman gets red flags and may be able to dip or avoid the situation. If a guy hides it, that only helps misogynistic guys trick women into potentially dangerous situations for the women. You're not helping women out with this advice.
MaximusKahn
08-09-24, 09:28
Agree with your sentiment, disagree with your advice.
Never tell guys to hide their misogyny unless you're also a misogynist. Guys displaying that, as you said, is how women get a sense of the guy. If a guy comes off misogynistic then the woman gets red flags and may be able to dip or avoid the situation. If a guy hides it, that only helps misogynistic guys trick women into potentially dangerous situations for the women. You're not helping women out with this advice.Well right off the bat I have to make it clear that I am not a misogynist. Read some of my posts and hopefully they support that statement without further question. And thus, I have to disagree that only a misogynist would tell misogynists to hide their misogynistic feelings.
I do like your point about me suggesting they hide their misogynistic feelings to get better results while mongering, and you do make me think.
I'm not offering that advice suggesting they "hide" it until they get an advantage over a female and then no longer hide it and start abusing her once she drops her guard. I'm suggesting they go in with good attitude, and they may get better results, and ultimately leave happier. This means they hide it through the whole encounter and never reveal how they really feel. If that happens, she's more comfortable, and none the wiser to what an asshole he truly is.
People hide their true feeling all the time. In most cases, negativity, and ill will towards others is best kept locked away in the dark recesses of their minds and never acted upon. It is difficult to change their minds, but hopefully with the lure of getting better service I can change their behavior. And if their behavior is better it is better for everyone, especially for the women.
In a professional setting, if a guy conceals his contempt through out the session, which hopefully leads him to be on his best behavior, everyone, including the female, is better off. If he enters angry and hostile towards her, she'll know to use caution, and he'll probably get less than desirable service. She's uncomfortable and he's still pissed off, and then posts a pissed off opinion of his experience. That scenario servs none of us.
Unfortunately in private relationships misogynists hide all the time. They know how to lure women in to get control and then start abusing their power over them. We see it all too often and it's a shame.
I'll share this quote from a movie I recently saw and agree with. "Strong men don't hurt women; weak men hurt women. " I'm going to suggest based on your comments you are a strong man.
Thanks for your comments and sharing your opinion. You give me great advice to watch how I phrase the advice I give more closely.
DomBlkMilitar
08-10-24, 19:55
Well right off the bat I have to make it clear that I am not a misogynist. Read some of my posts and hopefully they support that statement without further question. And thus, I have to disagree that only a misogynist would tell misogynists to hide their misogynistic feelings.
I do like your point about me suggesting they hide their misogynistic feelings to get better results while mongering, and you do make me think.
I'm not offering that advice suggesting they "hide" it until they get an advantage over a female and then no longer hide it and start abusing her once she drops her guard. I'm suggesting they go in with good attitude, and they may get better results, and ultimately leave happier. This means they hide it through the whole encounter and never reveal how they really feel. If that happens, she's more comfortable, and none the wiser to what an asshole he truly is.
People hide their true feeling all the time. In most cases, negativity, and ill will towards others is best kept locked away in the dark recesses of their minds and never acted upon. It is difficult to change their minds, but hopefully with the lure of getting better service I can change their behavior. And if their behavior is better it is better for everyone, especially for the women.
In a professional setting, if a guy conceals his contempt through out the session, which hopefully leads him to be on his best behavior, everyone, including the female, is better off. If he enters angry and hostile towards her, she'll know to use caution, and he'll probably get less than desirable service. She's uncomfortable and he's still pissed off, and then posts a pissed off opinion of his experience. That scenario servs none of us.
Unfortunately in private relationships misogynists hide all the time. They know how to lure women in to get control and then start abusing their power over them. We see it all too often and it's a shame.
I'll share this quote from a movie I recently saw and agree with. "Strong men don't hurt women; weak men hurt women. " I'm going to suggest based on your comments you are a strong man.
Thanks for your comments and sharing your opinion. You give me great advice to watch how I phrase the advice I give more closely.The attitude of the people posting shouldn't really matter. Most seek a professional woman for her to help them achieve their goals. What would you define as the threshold for being misogynistic or not? If one were to define misogyny as the hatred of, aversion to, or prejudice against women, I don't see how those of us who utilize professional women and write about them are necessarily misogynistic. I haven't seen any misogynistic posts against women yet. If you invested your time and money in someone who wasted both, wouldn't you be angry? The anger isn't directed towards them because they are a woman, it's because they offered and were paid for something they advertised but didn't follow through on.
From my point of view, discussing one's personal experiences with professional women does not make someone a misogynist. There are expectations when dealing with a professional. If I'm paying for something I have preferences and expectations regarding the professional's service. If she's advertising certain services and I book those services, I will definitely communicate with her and review the experience. My reviews are usually short; I don't try to create a novella. It may seem trivial to some to include details such as whether the woman's hosting site was clean or dirty, the accuracy of her pictures, and the services she was willing to provide that one paid for, but I view this as a business transaction for services.
I don't connect with professionals to establish personal relationships; I'm just there to use their services for a specific amount of time. If I'm paying a woman and she asks me to masturbate instead, I will leave and post a review to warn others. If that makes me a misogynist, so be it. If I pay for 60 or 90 minutes and she can complete the task in 5 or 15 minutes, then I'll leave happier than when I came in and will boost her for anyone who values efficiency.
MaximusKahn
08-16-24, 10:48
The attitude of the people posting shouldn't really matter... If you invested your time and money in someone who wasted both, wouldn't you be angry?...
I don't connect with professionals to establish personal relationships.Attitude always matters whether you know it or not. Even if you don't think it should. Being friendly and agreeable tends to get you better service than being hostile and disagreeable, even and often especially in business transactions.
Why be "angry" at all? If you have a disappointing experience, so be it. Our hobby is a crap shoot when trying out new providers and many factors go into the event. If it is disappointing, leave before you're upset, if its over, don't go back, and maybe post us a warning. No need to be angry.
Maybe if its a bait a switch, or false advertising, sure get angry because they are trying to screw you over, but I don't think bad service or service that doesn't meet your expectations is a cause for anger.
If you can't afford the time or the money to explore this hobby, and risk disappointment, then be sure you do your homework well, and only seek out sure things that will be guaranteed to satisfy you according to your standards.
We may not seek a personal relationship, but all contact with people is a relationship for the time we are interacting, and relationships respond to emotions and attitudes. No matter if personal, professional, casual, short or long term. A lot of people don't care about the other person in the relationship or their position because they don't see it as a relationship or they view the relationship as disposable. I think that is a miscalculation of how relationships work, and that attitude can work against them being satisfied themselves.
So I still suggest, have a better attitude and you may have a better experience. No matter who you are dealing with. If nobody likes the better attitude term, then try having the right attitude that gets you what you want. And in many cases, it is having a "good" attitude, towards the people you are dealing with.
Happy Meal
08-18-24, 18:42
Attitude always matters whether you know it or not. Even if you don't think it should. Being friendly and agreeable tends to get you better service than being hostile and disagreeable, even and often especially in business transactions.
Why be "angry" at all? If you have a disappointing experience, so be it. Our hobby is a crap shoot when trying out new providers and many factors go into the event. If it is disappointing, leave before you're upset, if its over, don't go back, and maybe post us a warning. No need to be angry.
Maybe if its a bait a switch, or false advertising, sure get angry because they are trying to screw you over, but I don't think bad service or service that doesn't meet your expectations is a cause for anger.
If you can't afford the time or the money to explore this hobby, and risk disappointment, then be sure you do your homework well, and only seek out sure things that will be guaranteed to satisfy you according to your standards.
We may not seek a personal relationship, but all contact with people is a relationship for the time we are interacting, and relationships respond to emotions and attitudes. No matter if personal, professional, casual, short or long term. A lot of people don't care about the other person in the relationship or their position because they don't see it as a relationship or they view the relationship as disposable. I think that is a miscalculation of how relationships work, and that attitude can work against them being satisfied themselves.
So I still suggest, have a better attitude and you may have a better experience. No matter who you are dealing with. If nobody likes the better attitude term, then try having the right attitude that gets you what you want. And in many cases, it is having a "good" attitude, towards the people you are dealing with.Very well said. This is what is needed not only in this hobby, but a good general rule all the time!
Bros I 100% own the rake I stepped on.
I still need to vent though.
I have been seeing girls going on 20 something years. I have had plenty of 18-20 bodies. And there are some that kinda stick with you.
Its been mostly Asian girls out here in Cali but back in my home state there were plenty of young white girls and even red heads with perfect pink cupcake titties.
I remember the cute little cowboy hat and booty shorts. I thought hey its only ten years it can be that bad. Lets see her again.
She was using the same photos. And now after the regret of boning out what felt like her mom. I remembered the negatives. The tooth she never fixed. The condom holding.
And now I see clearly the psychological manipulation. (oh you love me right. , oh are you disappointed because I am fatter.)
Bros I don't think I can get married anymore. That's what 10 years does to a woman. I. I can't commit. I want to be just like LEO di Caprio.
TugSpinosa
08-27-24, 18:40
Besides seeing an increase of AMPs post on HX. Which is annoying since they spam the classifieds. Along with their fake ass pics.
I have noticed that ladies are making accounts and referring you to other sites. I don't mean only fans type of websites. If they were serious about setting stuff up they could include that in the message they send you. Instead I get "you can check out what I offer at the following sites. ". I really hope HX doesn't get overrun. End Rant.
Up until now, I've been using virtual numbers for communications. More recently, I have a need for a secondary physical phone to maintain communication with providers. I'm not familiar with whether or not true burner phones still exist where your personal info is not registered and you only pay as needed. I remember these phones existing back in the day where you would go to a convenience store and buy a card to add minutes, and could even buy the actual phone at the convenience store too.
I'm looking for tips, tricks, and recommendations from the members of the community that have experience on these areas. Just to reiterate, I am not looking for a virtual number on my primary phone. I have plenty of those.
Thanks.
- TJNiko.
Up until now, I've been using virtual numbers for communications. More recently, I have a need for a secondary physical phone to maintain communication with providers. I'm not familiar with whether or not true burner phones still exist where your personal info is not registered and you only pay as needed. I remember these phones existing back in the day where you would go to a convenience store and buy a card to add minutes, and could even buy the actual phone at the convenience store too.
I'm looking for tips, tricks, and recommendations from the members of the community that have experience on these areas. Just to reiterate, I am not looking for a virtual number on my primary phone. I have plenty of those.
Thanks.
- TJNiko.The easiest is probably going to Walmart and getting a TracFone.
If you have an unlocked phone, ultra mobile paygo sims may be available from resellers on ebay and they can be topped off with prepaid cards.
The easiest is probably going to Walmart and getting a TracFone.
If you have an unlocked phone, ultra mobile paygo sims may be available from resellers on ebay and they can be topped off with prepaid cards.Does TracFone require personal info to setup / register?
Does TracFone require personal info to setup / register?I haven't used one in several years but if I remember correctly all you need to provide to register an account / activate is an email address which you can just use your spam gmail, not even credit card as long as you buy the phone and prepaid card at a store in person.
I haven't used one in several years but if I remember correctly all you need to provide to register an account / activate is an email address which you can just use your spam gmail, not even credit card as long as you buy the phone and prepaid card at a store in person.Good to know. Thanks for the info.
SereniteeNow
09-17-24, 11:31
Besides seeing an increase of AMPs post on HX. Which is annoying since they spam the classifieds. Along with their fake ass pics.
I have noticed that ladies are making accounts and referring you to other sites. I don't mean only fans type of websites. If they were serious about setting stuff up they could include that in the message they send you. Instead I get "you can check out what I offer at the following sites. ". I really hope HX doesn't get overrun. End Rant.I have half a mind to report these AMPs to the authorities with all their useless classified postings. They've already ruined other websites now they want to take down the stalwarts.
NineInches
09-18-24, 20:52
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9rKYCtEy3g
Anyone tried these services?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9rKYCtEy3g
Anyone tried these services?It's a dude.
NineInches
09-19-24, 14:03
It's a dude.That's right, that's the best scam there is. Get paid and get laid.
That's right, that's the best scam there is. Get paid and get laid.Your inbox is full.
I wish women would stop getting lip injections, fake butts, tummy tucks, botox, and breast enhancements. I've seen some real beauties ruin their looks. I don't want to kiss filler lips, I don't want to suck on nipples that have been sewn on, the fake asses make bodies look out of proportion. I'll take a natural woman any day over enhanced.
ToddRichards12
09-22-24, 14:11
I wish women would stop getting lip injections, fake butts, tummy tucks, botox, and breast enhancements. I've seen some real beauties ruin their looks. I don't want to kiss filler lips, I don't want to suck on nipples that have been sewn on, the fake asses make bodies look out of proportion. I'll take a natural woman any day over enhanced.I'm with you on this. There was an Eastern European girl that I met off PD. She was absolutely naturally gorgeous. I saw her again about 6 months later and walked into the room surprised to see she had a bunch of unnecessary work done that actually made her less attractive. Her body looked somewhat robotic LOL.
NudeBeachPerv
09-24-24, 14:11
I don't think this will surprise anyone but Fetlife is a sewer.
You will see ads for weird parties mentioning MMF, "straight" guys will reply "add me. " (For those who don't know, MMF means the guys play with each other.).
Random women will "host" a party but cancel the day of.
Weirdo Findommes expect you to Venmo them money.
And every legit party has 800 people saying they will show up and virtually none of them do. I think it is a bunch of keyboard warriors who pretend the are wild but are really mild. What a bunch of idiots.
Rant over.
MaximusKahn
10-01-24, 09:44
We all feel the pain and possible frustration when dealing with fakes, frauds, and fools.
I don't think this will surprise anyone but Fetlife is a sewer.
You will see ads for weird parties mentioning MMF, "straight" guys will reply "add me. " (For those who don't know, MMF means the guys play with each other.).
Random women will "host" a party but cancel the day of.
Weirdo Findommes expect you to Venmo them money.
And every legit party has 800 people saying they will show up and virtually none of them do. I think it is a bunch of keyboard warriors who pretend the are wild but are really mild. What a bunch of idiots.
Rant over.
We all feel the pain and possible frustration when dealing with fakes, frauds, and fools.I feel your pain about fakes on fetlife. I have gang bangs and it amazes me how many guys do not show up or are fakes.
NaughtyBlu
10-11-24, 14:57
I saw this pop up on Reddit, I just thought it was interesting.
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/city-attorney-settled-massage-parlor-prostitution-accusations/509-63c10e4f-930c-4264-af4c-5203490161f5
I learned about the exploits of Peter Griffin from a thread there. Just wow.
I saw this pop up on Reddit, I just thought it was interesting.
https://www.cbs8.com/article/news/local/city-attorney-settled-massage-parlor-prostitution-accusations/509-63c10e4f-930c-4264-af4c-5203490161f5
Rey KittyHawk
10-13-24, 13:39
I learned about the exploits of Peter Griffin from a thread there. Just wow.To justify going after business where consenting adults exchange gratuity for sexual pleasure, they always include "trafficking.
In all of my mongering travels I never encountered anyone who seemed under age, forced to participate, or appeared to be held against their will.
I see nothing wrong with a women who wants to share herself for financial rewards. The reason I would suggest they don't get many true traffickers is because they can't find them. A Massage Spa is an easy target to find.
Just my 2 cents.
Download X
10-13-24, 14:13
To justify going after business where consenting adults exchange gratuity for sexual pleasure, they always include "trafficking.
In all of my mongering travels I never encountered anyone who seemed under age, forced to participate, or appeared to be held against their will.The definition of trafficking is so broad and vague that it always includes fully consenting activity. The definition covers "recruiting or transporting" and "aim to profit" as long as it's illegal. That's it.
If you ship rare birds that are banned from export due to being endangered, you are trafficking birds. 100% no question about it. If the birds weren't endangered and thereby legal to export, no trafficking.
If a woman says she wants you to help her work at a korg in the US and you help her with the process, you are trafficking. 100%. Doesn't matter the consent or willingness.
But if that woman asks for your help to do it in Australia or Germany where it is legal, you aren't trafficking. Even though it's 100% identical in act. It just so happens the destination country allows the act. It's still dick in pussy work whether Australia or the US of course, 100% identical. But one is trafficking.
The word doesn't mean what people are using it as, so people conflate slavery with consenting but illegal activity. They're completely equal acts under the word trafficking. It is by design.
NaughtyBlu
10-14-24, 02:34
To justify going after business where consenting adults exchange gratuity for sexual pleasure, they always include "trafficking.
In all of my mongering travels I never encountered anyone who seemed under age, forced to participate, or appeared to be held against their will.
I see nothing wrong with a women who wants to share herself for financial rewards. The reason I would suggest they don't get many true traffickers is because they can't find them. A Massage Spa is an easy target to find.
Just my 2 cents.It was all just local politics imo. The / ADA / Police Chief all threw in some political buzz words to try and use the closing of the largest brothel in SD as a springboard for their own personal gain. Human trafficking was a popular term and it's always a topic of concern in SD since we are so close to the border. It didn't matter if it was true or not, but having the topic discussed was enough to win over some votes and gain some donations I'm sure.
Okay, I get it, rules are rules. But I had zero intention of breaking them. And to be fair, I posted "Yesterday 18:08" before your ban list was posted today, so it wasn't visible at the time of writing my post. Once your list was published, I sent you a DM explaining my post may be in violation and asked how I could edit or delete it? As I didn't see an "edit" function as mentioned in the FAQ. That said, I will be much more careful in the future. Thanks.
Everyone should be careful when leaving reviews especially if your anonymity is important to you.
There are people (likely banned from these forums for being a shill) that lurk here and monitor rubmaps to stand up for the spas that they unfortunately are too emotionally invested in as a monger.
Recent example is Waples Spa.
Here is a portion of a review that someone left recently:
"Stripped down to my birthday suit and San San came in and started to stretch me. No massage just stretching. Nothing e. About this. 5 minutes later she told me to flip over and told me full service for 1 hour is $250 and 30 minutes is $200. I told her I have $180 and San San told me that will only get me 30 minutes. Would not budge on the price. OK 30 minutes it is since I don't want to shelled out more money.
Wiped me down and started bbj that last long enough get me hard and on came the condom. I have not fuck in weeks so it took maybe 30 seconds to get me hard. This is how long the BBJ was. No kissing so no GFE here. No DATY or 69 because the condom went on after 30 seconds and she mounted me in CG. Yeah it was that quick. Rode me for a few minutes and I unload into the bag. Wham bam thank you mam. L've visited a handful of spa in the areas and for $260, the girls at the other spas would gave me a great time for 1 hour. GFE, 69,daty and even sometime MSOG for $260. I do not recommend this spa because of the high price and subpar service."
Nothing crazily negative about this review except that this person personally doesn't recommend it due to the cost to service ratio.
One of the classic San Diego Rubmaps stooges predictably came in to save the day.
It's insane to me that some of these people will defend a spa full of prostitutes just because someone wants to share their honest experience.
Attached screenshots of the comment section to the above review but in case the attachments don't work here are some highlights:
From chino619 - classic white knight of the spa:
I'm the previous guy that you're talking about. I had an excellent session with Sansan. You have to know that in this hobby we all have bad experiences. Even I had terrible experiences, but I don't ***** and moan in the review forums. I talk to management and have them make it right for me during my next visit. I think you're a shill or an owner. If you're trippin in the house fees, go find a hole in the wall and stick your dick in it. Then find a reason to complain about it. You're a straight up ***** if you ask me. Unblock your profile then get some reviews under your belt. Come holla at me.
From 10 point5 inches. Another white knight of the spa:
Let's play Devil's Advocate She didn't do you good service. Why bash the place, when you know and everyone else knows these girls aren't here for long or they change names. Been to one location where it was Coco and the next week come see Ceecee and it's the same damn provider. Now that sucks balls. Bring it up to the group here and ask before you buy. Caveat Emptor.
And the main highlight of why I decided to post this.
From Chino619:
"You were customer number 6 of San San I'll just look at the camera footage to see who you are. ".
I am sure that a lot of these people aren't actual owners of the spa but mongers that are way too emotionally invested into these prostitutes after being 40 year old virgins. Some of these mongers wear it as a sign of pride. Often talking about how they pick up some of these girls from the airport and drop them off at the spa, hanging out at the spa lobby to chat with the girls and leave reviews for them without actually partaking in their services. And of course monitoring rubmaps 24/7 to make sure the pussy on the pedestal doesn't get any non 5 star reviews.
And of course there are another level of psychopaths that will go back and review security cam footage with the owner to try and identify users that leave mediocre reviews.
This is why I typically don't leave reviews the day of seeing a provider and also do my best to not include any personally identifying information in the reviews. We all enjoy this hobby to get off and have some fun but there are people that are mentally ill and fall in actual love with these girls that we need to be aware of and be careful of.
Anyways the rant went longer than intended. Stay safe out there.
I know the rules on these forums can sometimes feel strict but I appreciate admin for banning these nutjobs even though they for sure still lurk here on different accounts to make sure nobody talks bad about their prostitute girlfriends.
Everyone should be careful when leaving reviews especially if your anonymity is important to you.
There are people (likely banned from these forums for being a shill) that lurk here and monitor rubmaps to stand up for the spas that they unfortunately are too emotionally invested in as a monger.If you run the numbers, guys like Chino (and a couple others) are either independently wealthy (I doubt), lying (I suspect), or absolute shills getting freebies form the owners (very possible). Of course, a combination is also highly likely. Chino and the other "shills" are posting at least one, sometimes two reviews every week. DO the math. Avg half hour in San Diego is $50-60 (say $50). Avg tip STARTS at $140 (cheap ass) going to $180-200). So each session is Over $190. That's close to $10 k a year at once a week. Seriously! San Diego Median income is just over $42 k. Even at the higher end of say $80 k, your take home after taxes is around $50 k-now you're dropping 20% on mongering at AMPs? Do these guys live at home with mommy?
Plus, I've called him and others out on that review site for posting reviews of providers listing different names in the text of the review. They claim they saw a Yumi, they reverence Yumi in the first paragraph of their Penthouse style review, then a couple paragraphs down her name has mysteriously changed to Akikio (I just mad up the names, but this is legit what I've seen). And many times, the reviews are similar in tone-similar details and experience.
MaximusKahn
10-21-24, 10:21
Everyone should be careful when leaving reviews especially if your anonymity is important to you.
There are people (likely banned from these forums for being a shill) that lurk here and monitor rubmaps to stand up for the spas that they unfortunately are too emotionally invested in as a monger.
Yes anonymity is important to many mongers. And getting back lash about your posts from Shills, Owners, and White Nights can be a pain in the ass.
Being threatened on line, or with the statement of "watching the video to find out who you are" will deter many from posting anything negative. A threat of watching the video, will definitely have the wrong effect on people like me. I'll avoid that place forever more knowing such assholes "work" for the establishment. Face facts, the illegal sex trade attracts some people from the lower echelons of our society, and as soon as they self identify, you know where to avoid. And when they post such threats in the open forum, everyone can see where to avoid.
But we need the bad reviews as much as the good ones. So protect your anonymity. Don't post on the same day, wait a week or two. Don't give too much detail in your posts, or describe anything that would help them figure out who you are. I suggest always paying in cash, so no credit card name is available. And if you use one phone, make sure the name that comes up is not your actual name. Yes, you can change this with your carrier, usually right on-line. I don't discuss posting, or any web sites with the women.
I also just keep it professional, even with my regulars. I never hang out, or socialize away from the spa. I'm not into smooshing with the owners, or Mama-sans, or looking for a "girl friend" I want a fuck buddy type relationship. My plan is to come and go with the lowest possible profile. All because I know there are assholes out there, and dealing with them online is a nuisance, dealing with them in person is a real pain in the ass. So be careful in your mongering.
JWalker350
10-21-24, 19:22
If you run the numbers, guys like Chino (and a couple others) are either independently wealthy (I doubt), lying (I suspect), or absolute shills getting freebies form the owners (very possible). Of course, a combination is also highly likely. Chino and the other "shills" are posting at least one, sometimes two reviews every week. DO the math. Avg half hour in San Diego is $50-60 (say $50). Avg tip STARTS at $140 (cheap ass) going to $180-200). So each session is Over $190. That's close to $10 k a year at once a week. Seriously! San Diego Median income is just over $42 k. Even at the higher end of say $80 k, your take home after taxes is around $50 k-now you're dropping 20% on mongering at AMPs? Do these guys live at home with mommy?
Plus, I've called him and others out on that review site for posting reviews of providers listing different names in the text of the review. They claim they saw a Yumi, they reverence Yumi in the first paragraph of their Penthouse style review, then a couple paragraphs down her name has mysteriously changed to Akikio (I just mad up the names, but this is legit what I've seen). And many times, the reviews are similar in tone-similar details and experience.I have no comments about Chino's stories but you said people do not have 10 K per year for their hobby is absolutely incorrect. You might be correct for your financial status but a good number of mongers have enough income to support their hobby much more than 10 K per year. It can be 30 K-40 K each year for local sugar daddies.
NineInches
10-21-24, 21:41
Somehow I remember someone else posting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQF7RDSjQYQ&t=595s
TLTR.
By John Doe.
Why Marriage is Costlier?
Is it cheaper to have sex with normal women than with prostitutes? No, and here is why.
When you have sex with a normal girl, it's by no means "free". You have to take her out to dinner, buy her drinks, and you might have to go on two or even three dates before you will have sex with her. If you add up the total costs of these three dates, it would be approximately around 400 dollars.
Now let's look at the cost of the average high-quality prostitute. You can bang a prostitute for 2 hours for 250 dollars.
What are the benefits of using prostitutes instead of dating normal women?
The average prostitute is far hotter than the average normal woman you can date.
You get to do the choosing, and the power of choice is in YOUR hands, instead of in the woman's hands.
With a prostitute, you have sex with her and that's it. No emotional drama, no mind games, no bullshit, like there is with normal women.
You don't have to waste hours of your valuable time that you could otherwise spend on making money, taking women out on dates or trying to pick up women in bars and clubs. No, instead you pay a prostitute for one or two hours of her time, have sex with her, and leave.
You choose When you want to have sex. So let's say you're a busy businessman, instead of wasting 5 hours at a bar or on a date, instead, you'd spend only one or two hours with a prostitute, and that at your convenience too. YOU are the one who chooses When, and so you save a Lot of time.
Prostitutes are Definitely cheaper than getting married. Overall, through a 10-year marriage and divorce, you'd end up spending at least 250,000 dollars. Now let's take that number and divide it by 250 dollars, which is the average price of a high-quality prostitute in a Western country. That is sex with 1000 different high-quality prostitutes. Now if you talk to any married man, who is Honest, he will admit that sex with the wife after the first 6 months or year starts to get boring. And this is why people in long-term relationships barely have sex because it's BORING having sex with the same person time after time. Variety is the spice of life! You could have sex with 1000 different women for the same price it would cost to marry one woman and have sex with her. And considering how unstable most western women are nowadays, the chance of divorce is around 60%, with the woman initiating the divorce 90% of the time. You are likely to lose at least 50% of your assets and savings in a divorce, and so marriage to a western woman may end up costing you up to 500,000 dollars or even a million dollars, once you add in the divorce costs and long-term child payment and alimony costs.
So let's take that number, one million dollars, and divide it by 250. That's 4000 DIFFERENT women you could pay to have sex with, instead of marrying one woman who will just end up turning into a ***** and divorcing you anyway. So it's your choice guys. Would you rather marry one woman, who will get bored of sex after 6 months, and end up stealing all your assets and savings in divorce, or would you rather have sex with 4000 different beautiful women for the same price?
It's Love or Rape?
Another very relevant point is that the world of modern dating has become quite risky. Most women see nothing wrong with making a false rape accusation against a man. Most rape cases are fake and are done out of a motive of REVENGE by the woman. Did you break up with your girlfriend? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation against you just to get revenge. Did you cheat on your girl with another girl? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation just to get revenge on you. Forgot to tell your girlfriend "happy birthday"? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation against you in order to get revenge on you. At least 90% of rape cases are False, the sex was Consensual and the woman later changed her mind AFTER the act and decided "oh it was rape". LOL. And this is why the police no longer take rape cases seriously because literally, 90% of women who claim to have been raped are Lying!
So that is another Huge benefit of prostitutes. A prostitute won't make a false rape accusation against you.
Why Men Choose Prostitutes?
What's another GREAT reason that men choose to use prostitutes? Because by paying for sex, they can have sex with a MUCH hotter quality of woman than they would normally. For example, if we rate women on a scale of 1 to 10 in terms of beauty. The average guy will be able to pick up and have sex with a 4 or a 5 from a bar, a club, or Tinder. Meanwhile, if the same man paid for sex with a high-quality prostitute for $250 dollars (about the same amount of money he would spend picking up a 4 or 5 from a bar, club, or Tinder), the prostitute he would have sex with would be an 8 or 9 on the beauty scale.
So for the same amount of money, he can have sex with a much hotter woman, and with much less effort too. Think about all the effort you have to put in to go to a bar or club. You have to buy good clothes, you have to spend lots of money on drinks and food, and also have to spend a lot of money on making sure your apartment is cool and stylish so the girl will feel comfortable there.
So unless you're a man who was blessed with the looks of Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise and have women chasing after you, the easiest and cheapest option for most men to have sex with the hottest quality of women is to simply PAY for sex with a hot prostitute. One guy was asked why he paid to have sex with prostitutes and his reply was "If I'm being brutally honest, the hottest women I've ever had sex with have been prostitutes. I would never be able to have sex with women who are ridiculously hot unless they were prostitutes. " I can also personally testify to this point. The types of chicks I was getting from Tinder were mostly fat or at best mildly hot, I would have rated them between a 3 and a 6 on the attraction scale. Then the first time I went to a prostitute, I have blown away by the options and the QUALITY too. Here were super hot girls who I could bang for such a cheap price. Needless to say, I gave up on dating and ONLY bang prostitutes now. I'm a much happier and peaceful person as a result.
Another couple of reasons that men gave as to why they choose to have sex with prostitutes are:
"Getting a prostitute is so easy: no strings attached, you can choose the woman you want before you purchase, then they arrive at your door. Couldn't be easier".
I can also testify to this. Getting a normal girl to have sex is a real pain in the ass and involves so much struggle, drama, and mind games. Then of course after you have sex with her, you have to deal with her stalking you, calling you so many times, and with her unrealistic expectation that you are going to have a committed and exclusively relationship with her. All that compared with the EASE of banging a hot prostitute, and the choice is simple. I chose to not waste time trying to date women anymore and only bang hot prostitutes now.
"We want to have sex without all the bullshit of pretending to be really interested in a girl. When you pay for sex, you don't have to swap numbers at the end when you know you won't call. You pay, have sex, she leaves. Everyone's happy. ".
This goes along with the above point. With normal women and dating, you have to Pretend to care about her and Pretend to be interested in her, when in reality all you want is to have sex with her. With a prostitute, there are no pretensions and that really is a beautiful thing because ultimately then sex becomes about the raw physical act as well as the pure attractiveness of the woman, and thus you are able to enjoy sex a lot more.
About the Author – Author John Doe is an avid reader of The Male Factor. Views expressed in this article are his personal.
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I have no comments about Chino's stories but you said people do not have 10 K per year for their hobby is absolutely incorrect. You might be correct for your financial status but a good number of mongers have enough income to support their hobby much more than 10 K per year. It can be 30 K-40 K each year for local sugar daddies.
I know the rules on these forums can sometimes feel strict but I appreciate admin for banning these nutjobs even though they for sure still lurk here on different accounts to make sure nobody talks bad about their prostitute girlfriends.Thank you, San Diego is the worst for shills. We appreciate the shout out.
A2
Jaguar300ZX
10-22-24, 17:45
I have no comments about Chino's stories, but you said people do not have 10K per year for their hobby is absolutely incorrect. You might be correct for your financial status but a good number of mongers have enough income to support their hobby much more than 10K per year. It can be 30K-40K each year for local sugar daddies.Not only Sugar-Daddies, but also Sugar-Ditty.
Usgyinyang
10-22-24, 18:31
If I had that much to blow on blowing my load I wouldn't be caught dead wasting my time white knighting on a review forum but that's just me.
I have no comments about Chino's stories but you said people do not have 10 K per year for their hobby is absolutely incorrect. You might be correct for your financial status but a good number of mongers have enough income to support their hobby much more than 10 K per year. It can be 30 K-40 K each year for local sugar daddies.
HungMexicano
10-22-24, 18:51
If you run the numbers, guys like Chino (and a couple others) are either independently wealthy (I doubt), lying (I suspect), or absolute shills getting freebies form the owners (very possible). Of course, a combination is also highly likely. Chino and the other "shills" are posting at least one, sometimes two reviews every week. DO the math. Avg half hour in San Diego is $50-60 (say $50). Avg tip STARTS at $140 (cheap ass) going to $180-200). So each session is Over $190. That's close to $10 k a year at once a week. Seriously! San Diego Median income is just over $42 k. Even at the higher end of say $80 k, your take home after taxes is around $50 k-now you're dropping 20% on mongering at AMPs? Do these guys live at home with mommy?
Plus, I've called him and others out on that review site for posting reviews of providers listing different names in the text of the review. They claim they saw a Yumi, they reverence Yumi in the first paragraph of their Penthouse style review, then a couple paragraphs down her name has mysteriously changed to Akikio (I just mad up the names, but this is legit what I've seen). And many times, the reviews are similar in tone-similar details and experience.I'm pretty sure there's a group of these guys that work for the owners on all the banned spas. With multiple accounts on RM and USA they're like a disease that just dog piles any negative reviews. Because of the way they react and post about these different girls and parlors I'm almost 100% sure they work for the owners. They always seem to know where these girls are going and coming back and just have a bunch of copy pasted reviews that get slightly altered every post. At this point it just seems like the owners pays them for these reviews as a way to advertise and get people in. Not everyone pays for premium and sees the comments they just see reviews being added with names and they go visit. None of them seem like actual visit reviews but they make it sound like they're buddy buddy with these girls because they're working with the owners. Essentially these girls' coworkers. Bringing food and other shit on the side. If they're not getting paid by these owners they're some of the dumbest shills ever lmao.
Thank you, San Diego is the worst for shills. We appreciate the shout out.
A2I wish we could find out who they are and permanently ban them. He gets a kick back from the spas / works for them so shilling is his job.
Somehow I remember someone else posting:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQF7RDSjQYQ&t=595s
TLTR.
By John Doe.
Why Marriage is Costlier?
Is it cheaper to have sex with normal women than with prostitutes? No, and here is why.
When you have sex with a normal girl, it's by no means "free". You have to take her out to dinner, buy her drinks, and you might have to go on two or even three dates before you will have sex with her. If you add up the total costs of these three dates, it would be approximately around 400 dollars.
Now let's look at the cost of the average high-quality prostitute. You can bang a prostitute for 2 hours for 250 dollars.
What are the benefits of using prostitutes instead of dating normal women?
The average prostitute is far hotter than the average normal woman you can date.
You get to do the choosing, and the power of choice is in YOUR hands, instead of in the woman's hands.
With a prostitute, you have sex with her and that's it. No emotional drama, no mind games, no bullshit, like there is with normal women.
You don't have to waste hours of your valuable time that you could otherwise spend on making money, taking women out on dates or trying to pick up women in bars and clubs. No, instead you pay a prostitute for one or two hours of her time, have sex with her, and leave.
You choose When you want to have sex. So let's say you're a busy businessman, instead of wasting 5 hours at a bar or on a date, instead, you'd spend only one or two hours with a prostitute, and that at your convenience too. YOU are the one who chooses When, and so you save a Lot of time.
Prostitutes are Definitely cheaper than getting married. Overall, through a 10-year marriage and divorce, you'd end up spending at least 250,000 dollars. Now let's take that number and divide it by 250 dollars, which is the average price of a high-quality prostitute in a Western country. That is sex with 1000 different high-quality prostitutes. Now if you talk to any married man, who is Honest, he will admit that sex with the wife after the first 6 months or year starts to get boring. And this is why people in long-term relationships barely have sex because it's BORING having sex with the same person time after time. Variety is the spice of life! You could have sex with 1000 different women for the same price it would cost to marry one woman and have sex with her. And considering how unstable most western women are nowadays, the chance of divorce is around 60%, with the woman initiating the divorce 90% of the time. You are likely to lose at least 50% of your assets and savings in a divorce, and so marriage to a western woman may end up costing you up to 500,000 dollars or even a million dollars, once you add in the divorce costs and long-term child payment and alimony costs.
So let's take that number, one million dollars, and divide it by 250. That's 4000 DIFFERENT women you could pay to have sex with, instead of marrying one woman who will just end up turning into a ***** and divorcing you anyway. So it's your choice guys. Would you rather marry one woman, who will get bored of sex after 6 months, and end up stealing all your assets and savings in divorce, or would you rather have sex with 4000 different beautiful women for the same price?
It's Love or Rape?
Another very relevant point is that the world of modern dating has become quite risky. Most women see nothing wrong with making a false rape accusation against a man. Most rape cases are fake and are done out of a motive of REVENGE by the woman. Did you break up with your girlfriend? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation against you just to get revenge. Did you cheat on your girl with another girl? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation just to get revenge on you. Forgot to tell your girlfriend "happy birthday"? Watch out, she might make a false rape accusation against you in order to get revenge on you. At least 90% of rape cases are False, the sex was Consensual and the woman later changed her mind AFTER the act and decided "oh it was rape". LOL. And this is why the police no longer take rape cases seriously because literally, 90% of women who claim to have been raped are Lying!
So that is another Huge benefit of prostitutes. A prostitute won't make a false rape accusation against you.
Why Men Choose Prostitutes?
What's another GREAT reason that men choose to use prostitutes? Because by paying for sex, they can have sex with a MUCH hotter quality of woman than they would normally. For example, if we rate women on a scale of 1 to 10 in terms of beauty. The average guy will be able to pick up and have sex with a 4 or a 5 from a bar, a club, or Tinder. Meanwhile, if the same man paid for sex with a high-quality prostitute for $250 dollars (about the same amount of money he would spend picking up a 4 or 5 from a bar, club, or Tinder), the prostitute he would have sex with would be an 8 or 9 on the beauty scale.
So for the same amount of money, he can have sex with a much hotter woman, and with much less effort too. Think about all the effort you have to put in to go to a bar or club. You have to buy good clothes, you have to spend lots of money on drinks and food, and also have to spend a lot of money on making sure your apartment is cool and stylish so the girl will feel comfortable there.
So unless you're a man who was blessed with the looks of Brad Pitt or Tom Cruise and have women chasing after you, the easiest and cheapest option for most men to have sex with the hottest quality of women is to simply PAY for sex with a hot prostitute. One guy was asked why he paid to have sex with prostitutes and his reply was "If I'm being brutally honest, the hottest women I've ever had sex with have been prostitutes. I would never be able to have sex with women who are ridiculously hot unless they were prostitutes. " I can also personally testify to this point. The types of chicks I was getting from Tinder were mostly fat or at best mildly hot, I would have rated them between a 3 and a 6 on the attraction scale. Then the first time I went to a prostitute, I have blown away by the options and the QUALITY too. Here were super hot girls who I could bang for such a cheap price. Needless to say, I gave up on dating and ONLY bang prostitutes now. I'm a much happier and peaceful person as a result.
Another couple of reasons that men gave as to why they choose to have sex with prostitutes are:
"Getting a prostitute is so easy: no strings attached, you can choose the woman you want before you purchase, then they arrive at your door. Couldn't be easier".
I can also testify to this. Getting a normal girl to have sex is a real pain in the ass and involves so much struggle, drama, and mind games. Then of course after you have sex with her, you have to deal with her stalking you, calling you so many times, and with her unrealistic expectation that you are going to have a committed and exclusively relationship with her. All that compared with the EASE of banging a hot prostitute, and the choice is simple. I chose to not waste time trying to date women anymore and only bang hot prostitutes now.
"We want to have sex without all the bullshit of pretending to be really interested in a girl. When you pay for sex, you don't have to swap numbers at the end when you know you won't call. You pay, have sex, she leaves. Everyone's happy. ".
This goes along with the above point. With normal women and dating, you have to Pretend to care about her and Pretend to be interested in her, when in reality all you want is to have sex with her. With a prostitute, there are no pretensions and that really is a beautiful thing because ultimately then sex becomes about the raw physical act as well as the pure attractiveness of the woman, and thus you are able to enjoy sex a lot more.
About the Author Author John Doe is an avid reader of The Male Factor. Views expressed in this article are his personal.
The Male Factor is Banned By Facebook in 2019. Follow this Blog For Regular Updates.I think this must have been written before I was born, because I never remember getting a high quality woman for 250 for 2 hrs!
AeroStartC
10-23-24, 01:52
I think this must have been written before I was born, because I never remember getting a high quality woman for 250 for 2 hrs!Never forget: If it flies, floats, or fucks, it is cheaper to rent it.
NineInches
10-23-24, 14:59
Never forget: If it flies, floats, or fucks, it is cheaper to rent it.At least we can choose to rent. The prostitutes whether they look good, fuck good, we pay a certain price for their service. Do we want to rent a POS or the high quality. And this again what is a POS and what is high quality. The ones that look for the street urchins, are probably looking for the "POS" types, it could also be a challenge for them to look for the diamond in the rough. There are others looking for the unicorn. The provider that will provide them "other services" not offered to others. (That's the rub, do you really know).
Hungmexicano and Reds101 and many others have alluded to other mongers (shills) who aide and work for these spas. So what, I'm kinda jealous that they are getting paid or getting some fringe benefits for fucking (who doesn't want free pussy).
Some men wouldn't want that, too much drama to handle among these women. Some can't handle one.
I just don't want to pay more than the going rate right now or refused service because of my race.
I think these spas are all interconnected in some way, since I have seen the providers going from one place to the other. (Hence my question to the admin about the banned list, it may seem that all the spas will be banned sooner or later).
Plus don't the owners know about this page?
I use this forum for my intel on which spas / escorts / agencies might have some nice ladies to visit (Saves me on the gas and time) used to pay 20 for half hour and 40 for the hour.
I find no problem in these "White Knights", it actually makes the forum fun to read. I like the drama.
Rey KittyHawk
10-25-24, 10:17
Never forget: If it flies, floats, or fucks, it is cheaper to rent it.If it has tits or wheels, sooner or later it is going to cause you trouble.
So, lease a nice car, and rent the beautiful woman. When you are done with them, return them and get new.
NudeBeachPerv
10-27-24, 20:00
Remember this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CAHRpY3srI
NineInches
10-28-24, 21:47
It's real guys, seems there are few hobbyists on here that are getting paid for these so called reviews, especially on rub a dub dub map. Fuck these schills.
It's real guys, seems there are few hobbyists on here that are getting paid for these so called reviews, especially on rub a dub dub map. Fuck these schills.Hahaha what made you change your mind from a couple posts below? I got some DM's after my last post of other people sharing their personal list of shills etc. Which has been interesting. Nothing mindblowing mostly confirming the same group of users that I've always been iffy about.
I've mentioned this in these forums in the past but pay close attention to reviews. Is the review trying to help the spa and the prostitutes? Or is the review trying to help us mongers? Once you can see through the BS it's pretty easy to identify shills.
To my knowledge these people aren't getting "paid" - I've talked to an owner that mentioned one of the banned members helped them write reviews when they first opened and that they would just come hang out and bring gifts and food to the providers like a good little lap dog. They aren't doing it for money, they enjoy being a "know it all" of this industry and want to come across as experts in the hobby when all they do is fuck things up for the rest of us.
NineInches
10-30-24, 11:30
I've been in business long enough and I beg to differ, no one in their right mind " just come hang out and bring gifts and food to the providers like a good little lap dog".
They are there for an ulterior motive. Those motives could be "paid" in anything free pussy is the first thing that comes to mind. "experts in the hobby" what are they sexologists, sex experts, or trying to get their higher education now. It's just sex with prostitutes. They might also be part of the spa. I just don't like it. It will possibly stop some people "mostly regulars like us" from going anymore. And who is this owner you mentioned?
Hahaha what made you change your mind from a couple posts below? I got some DM's after my last post of other people sharing their personal list of shills etc. Which has been interesting. Nothing mindblowing mostly confirming the same group of users that I've always been iffy about.
I've mentioned this in these forums in the past but pay close attention to reviews. Is the review trying to help the spa and the prostitutes? Or is the review trying to help us mongers? Once you can see through the BS it's pretty easy to identify shills.
To my knowledge these people aren't getting "paid" - I've talked to an owner that mentioned one of the banned members helped them write reviews when they first opened and that they would just come hang out and bring gifts and food to the providers like a good little lap dog. They aren't doing it for money, they enjoy being a "know it all" of this industry and want to come across as experts in the hobby when all they do is fuck things up for the rest of us.
To my knowledge these people aren't getting "paid" - I've talked to an owner that mentioned one of the banned members helped them write reviews when they first opened and that they would just come hang out and bring gifts and food to the providers like a good little lap dog...This made me chuckle as I saw a monger do this the other day, bringing food and gifts in a full blown suit as I left after my session. I wondered, "does that really give them better service? As I've received pretty good service for the most part just paying standard tip and showing up in jeans in a t-shirt.
TugSpinosa
10-30-24, 13:48
They are taking over spamming the erotic review. HX. And now they are spamming Reddit and telegram.
NineInches
10-30-24, 20:20
This made me chuckle as I saw a monger do this the other day, bringing food and gifts in a full blown suit as I left after my session. I wondered, "does that really give them better service? As I've received pretty good service for the most part just paying standard tip and showing up in jeans in a t-shirt.Maybe they are undercover pimps, saw one the other day Black truck bearded dude and plump dude just hanging about. Didn't venture in at all.
Hello all anyone checked out ojos locos? It's basically a Mexican hooters but in the past it other locations I have been able to get dates with the girls off the clock. Onlyfans accounts are cool also or if they are ex pornstars. Any news? I will need to check it out and report back.
NineInches
10-31-24, 21:20
The only thing I can see is if one user / screen name or userid. Pops for multiple ladies / spas on the same day and reported to have seen said girl. 3 girls in a row, plausible that's a lot of cash in the same fucking day and fucking a lot. Not unless on the blue pill and / or refractory period is bounces back.
Or too many reviews on one provider from different accounts. I see this on T3 R and RM.
What are the other telltale signs.
As far as reading the review I think it's informative on the provider and spa. I'd like to know what amenities are available and is it clean. The other we all know too well. Suck and fuck and positions available.
Hahaha what made you change your mind from a couple posts below? I got some DM's after my last post of other people sharing their personal list of shills etc. Which has been interesting. Nothing mindblowing mostly confirming the same group of users that I've always been iffy about.
I've mentioned this in these forums in the past but pay close attention to reviews. Is the review trying to help the spa and the prostitutes? Or is the review trying to help us mongers? Once you can see through the BS it's pretty easy to identify shills.
To my knowledge these people aren't getting "paid" - I've talked to an owner that mentioned one of the banned members helped them write reviews when they first opened and that they would just come hang out and bring gifts and food to the providers like a good little lap dog. They aren't doing it for money, they enjoy being a "know it all" of this industry and want to come across as experts in the hobby when all they do is fuck things up for the rest of us.
Remember this guy?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CAHRpY3srINo, but he seems like cool dude with an interesting channel. I'll have to check it out.
I wonder if the banned member in the suit bringing food to the girls was the former member with 3000 posts? He was known to show up at massage parlors in business attire. I guess he was thinking "dress to impress".
If it is the Little Man, then I guess he hasn't changed but he doesn't have this audience to try and impress. LOL!
This made me chuckle as I saw a monger do this the other day, bringing food and gifts in a full blown suit as I left after my session. I wondered, "does that really give them better service? As I've received pretty good service for the most part just paying standard tip and showing up in jeans in a t-shirt.
No, but he seems like cool dude with an interesting channel. I'll have to check it out.I feel like going.
The ones I hate the most are Gatekeepers.
You get something good and they try to throw salt in your game.
It never clicked, but I remember My ATF used to tell me, "Don't tell them I give you 2 hours. They get jealous. " In my mind, why would I want to tell anyone that? I'm keeping that to myself.
Then she would say, "you better not go to those Korean apartments or else I will know. ".
She used to cry to me saying, "I don't like this job anymore. " She would cuddle with me off the clock but not too long of course. I would hear her say funny things like refusing customers then she hangs out with me.
She used to be such a happy girl and would flaunt me to her other workers and say, "he's my boyfriend. " And pretend she was taking a selfie. She was the cutest.
One day a fat mamasan, I never seen before, took me in the other dark room and whispered with the lights off and said, "I'm not supposed to let you know she is here or I will get fired. ".
I visited her a week or so later and she do weird stuff and say, "I don't want you to get mad and then she recited some word for word stuff as if positioned in front of a camera or something because she winked pointed at the wall and said out loud, "I do not kiss, I do everything covered. " At this point we have seen each other so many times and I already knew that. We never did more than that anyways.
We drifted apart and I didn't see her for a long time. Many other things kept me busy but still she was my favorite until this day.
One day I found her at a different place, she was willing to see me but I walked out in her her because she refused BBBJ. She wasn't too happy about that. I'm not her little *****.
One day I came back. She would not see me. As I was leaving I could not help but notice some type of gatekeeper dude on a bike watching me from a distance like a faggot as if he was happy I was not able to see her.
Moral of the story. So many cock blockers out there. Better to be discreet. YMMV.
Trusty Hairlip
11-02-24, 14:23
The only thing I can see is if one user / screen name or userid. Pops for multiple ladies / spas on the same day and reported to have seen said girl. 3 girls in a row, plausible that's a lot of cash in the same fucking day and fucking a lot. Not unless on the blue pill and / or refractory period is bounces back.
Or too many reviews on one provider from different accounts. I see this on T3 R and RM.
What are the other telltale signs.
As far as reading the review I think it's informative on the provider and spa. I'd like to know what amenities are available and is it clean. The other we all know too well. Suck and fuck and positions available.The telltale sign for me are:
1. humblebrags.
2. dissing some ladies, praising others and blaming discrepancy on YMMV. Even telling me when some lady is going to be in town, and posting about same lady in other cities forums (k-girls especially).
3. penthouse forum style reviews and too much verbiage.
4. language pattern usage being very similar to other accounts. It is easy to spot and I have thought about creating a stylometric analysis and posting it.
I.
This made me chuckle as I saw a monger do this the other day, bringing food and gifts in a full blown suit as I left after my session. I wondered, "does that really give them better service? As I've received pretty good service for the most part just paying standard tip and showing up in jeans in a t-shirt.I would never do that. But one time a mamasan told me she had a urinary tract infection. I gave her a massage.
I would think the strategy of this monger is so maybe see the lineup. LOL.
Yea that's funny one time I was dressed in not so fancy work clothes and my jealous ATF said, "why you look like that? Going on a date?" All I had was nice shoes and a watch and she was clowning on me. Thanks to her stupidity I wouldn't of tried so many different things.
Rey KittyHawk
11-03-24, 14:00
Face reality, if you treat them right, and pay an acceptable tip, you'll never really know how they feel about about you.
Even if she becomes your regular ATF, you have no way to know how she really feels about you. They are smart enough to make you feel you are special. This way you might come back.
Think of all the times you've been called a "good customer?" This means they don't mind serving you for the money, but you still have no idea if they like you.
Face reality, if you treat them right, and pay an acceptable tip, you'll never really know how they feel about about you.
Even if she becomes your regular ATF, you have no way to know how she really feels about you. They are smart enough to make you feel you are special. This way you might come back.
Think of all the times you've been called a "good customer?" This means they don't mind serving you for the money, but you still have no idea if they like you.You think? Well no sh*t sherlock.
After calling me her boyfriend, of course about two weeks later, she says. " I don't want boyfriend anymore. " And of course she is so hot that I just ignore what she says and can only see her mouth moving. Because it's all about my cock that's getting serviced.
We stand no chance. Only an idiot would believe that. Even if girls fought over you in the past we are just money to them. There will always be someone more handsome with more money.
She was just so cute it was stupid. She would say stuff like, “you dont want to smell like me.” Or “did the condom break? That’s ok.” Or “I don’t want to get sick.” Or “I don’t want to get pregnant.”
Gosh I miss her that little ****. I would trade all these new ones for her is the crazy thing
It was so fun fighting with her. One time I pounded her roommate at the spa and thats when she became so mean. I did it in purpose. lol. Loved making her mad
Maybe they are undercover pimps, saw one the other day Black truck bearded dude and plump dude just hanging about. Didn't venture in at all.
I wonder if the banned member in the suit bringing food to the girls was the former member with 3000 posts? He was known to show up at massage parlors in business attire. I guess he was thinking "dress to impress".
I would think the strategy of this monger is so maybe see the lineup. LOL...I don't know who or what the monger was trying to do, but I just find it funny to do that when you can get the same service just coming in normally. If he indeed is getting discounts for coming in that way, then by all means, more power to him. I would do that too if that was the case. One thing's for sure, it beats coming in looking like a bum / scum bag.
AeroStartC
11-04-24, 00:31
It was so fun fighting with her. One time I pounded her roommate at the spa and thats when she became so mean. I did it in purpose. lol. Loved making her madThis is beautiful. Love it.
Rey KittyHawk
11-06-24, 09:53
I'm not much in to trainwrecks, especially if I'm on the train.
To get a woman on the hate train fucking her roommate is pretty good. Fucking her best friend is better. And if you really want to get her fury, fuck her sister.
It was so fun fighting with her. One time I pounded her roommate at the spa and thats when she became so mean. I did it in purpose. lol. Loved making her mad
I'm not much in to trainwrecks, especially if I'm on the train.
To get a woman on the hate train fucking her roommate is pretty good. Fucking her best friend is better. And if you really want to get her fury, fuck her sister.One of my biggest regrets. I'm so dumb.
One of the funniest things I would do to one of my atf CL girls. I would pick her up. And when we would get close to my house I would have her get down and put a bonnet on her head. So fun.
NineInches
11-09-24, 10:20
Face reality, if you treat them right, and pay an acceptable tip, you'll never really know how they feel about about you.
Even if she becomes your regular ATF, you have no way to know how she really feels about you. They are smart enough to make you feel you are special. This way you might come back.
Think of all the times you've been called a "good customer?" This means they don't mind serving you for the money, but you still have no idea if they like you.I've heard from a buddy that got upgraded to BBFS and creampied her. Charged. No extra fees and also was taken to dinner. Might be luring him for something.
Stl Danish
11-10-24, 01:15
The telltale sign for me are:
1. humblebrags.
2. dissing some ladies, praising others and blaming discrepancy on YMMV. Even telling me when some lady is going to be in town, and posting about same lady in other cities forums (k-girls especially).
3. penthouse forum style reviews and too much verbiage.
4. language pattern usage being very similar to other accounts. It is easy to spot and I have thought about creating a stylometric analysis and posting it.
I.The shills are so irritating, RM has been completely ruined by them (at least for San Diego) and all because of a small number of guys. We all have our favorite places and that's fine, but when everyone is a 10 and a nymphomaniac, according to one guy and his dozen fake accounts, it's really hard to separate useful information from advertising. Glad Admin has cracked down on it here. If spas want to become the most successful and make the most money, then provide the hottest girls and the best service. The rest will take care of itself.
Rey KittyHawk
11-14-24, 10:02
I've heard from a buddy that got upgraded to BBFS and creampied her. Charged. No extra fees and also was taken to dinner. Might be luring him for something.Sounds like love, or maybe she is seeking a sugar-daddy, maybe a sponsor for citizenship, maybe an American husband, or someone to take care of her. Only she knows for sure.
Their affection can be genuine, tough to tell when they have so much to gain by attaching themselves to you.
I would say, if your buddy is rich, handsome, and charming he might want to be careful.
Sounds like love, or maybe she is seeking a sugar-daddy, maybe a sponsor for citizenship, maybe an American husband, or someone to take care of her. Only she knows for sure.
Their affection can be genuine, tough to tell when they have so much to gain by attaching themselves to you.
I would say, if your buddy is rich, handsome, and charming he might want to be careful.Your buddy must be really handsome. I already helped her with her us citizenship around 2019 if that's the same one. LOL. She used me for my cock and got in trouble. Her roommate probably ratted her out that she handle more work.
NineInches
11-15-24, 19:42
Looks like my buddy is in love with her. I told him she's just another cum dumpster, and don't be thinking your the only one she's barebacking, there's plenty if they give her enough, sometimes she will give it away if she's horny enough and finds them attractive. Dang this women are manipulative.
Your buddy must be really handsome. I already helped her with her us citizenship around 2019 if that's the same one. LOL. She used me for my cock and got in trouble. Her roommate probably ratted her out that she handle more work.
Looks like my buddy is in love with her. I told him she's just another cum dumpster, and don't be thinking your the only one she's barebacking, there's plenty if they give her enough, sometimes she will give it away if she's horny enough and finds them attractive. Dang this women are manipulative.Because I remember, other girl would tell her that someone was there and she would say, "I don"t see Chinese guys. " Then one time a white guy came and she was like, "ohh shit. " She definitely was not the type that liked working much. LOL. She never made me shower ever. We did one time when it was hot. We tween our one hour session and the older mamasan that was their was rude and would say stuff like I hate you.
SukijoSeiwaka
11-24-24, 11:21
The ones I hate the most are Gatekeepers.
You get something good and they try to throw salt in your game.
It never clicked, but I remember My ATF used to tell me, "Don't tell them I give you 2 hours. They get jealous. " In my mind, why would I want to tell anyone that? I'm keeping that to myself.
Then she would say, "you better not go to those Korean apartments or else I will know. ".
She used to cry to me saying, "I don't like this job anymore. " She would cuddle with me off the clock but not too long of course. I would hear her say funny things like refusing customers then she hangs out with me.
She used to be such a happy girl and would flaunt me to her other workers and say, "he's my boyfriend. " And pretend she was taking a selfie. She was the cutest.
One day a fat mamasan, I never seen before, took me in the other dark room and whispered with the lights off and said, "I'm not supposed to let you know she is here or I will get fired. ".
I visited her a week or so later and she do weird stuff and say, "I don't want you to get mad and then she recited some word for word stuff as if positioned in front of a camera or something because she winked pointed at the wall and said out loud, "I do not kiss, I do everything covered. " At this point we have seen each other so many times and I already knew that. We never did more than that anyways.
We drifted apart and I didn't see her for a long time. Many other things kept me busy but still she was my favorite until this day.
One day I found her at a different place, she was willing to see me but I walked out in her her because she refused BBBJ. She wasn't too happy about that. I'm not her little *****.
One day I came back. She would not see me. As I was leaving I could not help but notice some type of gatekeeper dude on a bike watching me from a distance like a faggot as if he was happy I was not able to see her.
Moral of the story. So many cock blockers out there. Better to be discreet. YMMV.There was a girl I liked at one parlor named jojo. Young. The other woman there continuously tried to compete with her despite being much older.
Think of it like hanging out with a girl group. They grow a connection whether good or not similar to coworkers. You as an outsider are stepping into that community. What may be fun for you could be jealousy rising in other members of that community.
Just curious what time is the preferred time to hobby. Personally for myself I like early day appointnents, the earlier the better. I wish there were more options available before 6 am.
Just curious what time is the preferred time to hobby. Personally for myself I like early day appointnents, the earlier the better. I wish there were more options available before 6 am.For Independents, I've seen them as early a 4 am, but they are sometime just a deadfish. LOL.
Bbfscip858
12-08-24, 13:45
Had some free time yesterday and decided to try the newly opened shop QQ Massage on ECB. Was able to see the lovely Chinese provider Tina.
She's on the taller side 5'3" or so. She has shoulder length brown hair with blonde highlights. She has natural B cup tits with suckable nipples. She has some ink on her right shoulder, midsection, and fingers. She has a clean shaved kitty, and long legs.
GFE: LFK, DFK, DATY, 69, FIV, BBBJ.
CFS: CG, Standing Missionary, Doggy.
Overall I had a good time. Tina spoke English, which always makes the session better.
Damage: one hour house fee: .6 extra tip: $.6.
Bbfscip858
12-08-24, 20:54
Had some free time yesterday and decided to try the newly opened shop QQ Massage on ECB. Was able to see the lovely Chinese provider Tina.
She's on the taller side 5'3" or so. She has shoulder length brown hair with blonde highlights. She has natural B cup tits with suckable nipples. She has some ink on her right shoulder, midsection, and fingers. She has a clean shaved kitty, and long legs.
GFE: LFK, DFK, DATY, 69, FIV, BBBJ.
CFS: CG, Standing Missionary, Doggy.
Overall I had a good time. Tina spoke English, which always makes the session better.
Damage: one hour house fee: .6 extra tip: $.6.My bad was supposed to be in Massage Parlor reports section.
NudeBeachPerv
12-24-24, 16:10
Some of the guys I worked with made references to visiting the Hong Kong in TJ. I think they think I am a nerd who doesn't know about that stuff. I said I would go with them if they would pay for it and let me recreate the scene from "Enter the Dragon" where they guy asks for multiple ladies.
(For those who don't know.).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRjOB4qy4zo
One guy then asked if I was familiar with Figuoroa. I have never ben but I have seen the youtube vids. I couldn't resist. I said in my fruitiest voice. "I used to work on Figuroa. I didn't always used to be Ryan, I used too be Rochelle. " The guy had a look of disgust and said not to joke about that stuff. Well, I thought it was funny.
Merry XXXmas and a Naughty New Year!
Hello all anyone checked out ojos locos? It's basically a Mexican hooters but in the past it other locations I have been able to get dates with the girls off the clock. Onlyfans accounts are cool also or if they are ex pornstars. Any news? I will need to check it out and report back.I went there today for the first time, and I couldn't believe how much ass was on display. After two beers and a burger I was ready for action! The girls are basically in sexy lingerie leaving little to the imagination. My only complaint is they needed more than one bartender. The one bartender was a smoking hot black gringa. She was the only non-latina working. No action taken afterwards but I was feeling it for sure. Makes me wonder if these chicks have side hustles.
BluesBalls
12-28-24, 05:47
I went there today for the first time, and I couldn't believe how much ass was on display. After two beers and a burger I was ready for action! The girls are basically in sexy lingerie leaving little to the imagination. My only complaint is they needed more than one bartender. The one bartender was a smoking hot black gringa. She was the only non-latina working. No action taken afterwards but I was feeling it for sure. Makes me wonder if these chicks have side hustles.I love and hate that place. Could do without all the damn TVs, I fucking hate sports, but I love the girls too much for my own good. I hate there's nothing extra, all wound up and no release. Worse than a strip club, at least it's cheaper though. I like Black girls but don't really find her attractive for whatever reason. There are some girls there with a lot of work done that I assume must have some side hustles because they look overqualified for the part, but never built any rapport to ask though. I also don't want to ask the wrong girl and get bounced. Again, love it and hate it.
The telltale sign for me are:
1. humblebrags.
2. dissing some ladies, praising others and blaming discrepancy on YMMV. Even telling me when some lady is going to be in town, and posting about same lady in other cities forums (k-girls especially).
3. penthouse forum style reviews and too much verbiage.
4. language pattern usage being very similar to other accounts. It is easy to spot and I have thought about creating a stylometric analysis and posting it.
I.Unusually high number of reports about the same lady and or the same venue is usually the biggest giveaway for me. You often will see these reports on multiple forums.
I went there today for the first time, and I couldn't believe how much ass was on display. After two beers and a burger I was ready for action! The girls are basically in sexy lingerie leaving little to the imagination. My only complaint is they needed more than one bartender. The one bartender was a smoking hot black gringa. She was the only non-latina working. No action taken afterwards but I was feeling it for sure. Makes me wonder if these chicks have side hustles.I would doubt there is too much side hustling going on. It's a pretty big chain across the southern border states, and having been to a couple of them in TX and AZ, my impression was that most of the girls were college age, making decent tips for showing a little more tush than they might on a Friday night! As another poster said, it's a Latina version of Hooters.
Perhaps our local CV place is offering more, but think a real FR would be needed before I believed it.
Lascivious
01-06-25, 01:43
I love and hate that place. Could do without all the damn TVs, I fucking hate sports, but I love the girls too much for my own good. I hate there's nothing extra, all wound up and no release. Worse than a strip club, at least it's cheaper though. I like Black girls but don't really find her attractive for whatever reason. There are some girls there with a lot of work done that I assume must have some side hustles because they look overqualified for the part, but never built any rapport to ask though. I also don't want to ask the wrong girl and get bounced. Again, love it and hate it.I've been loving this place. You could either go to a Buffalo Wild Wings, or some such place, or come her and see a bunch of hot girls, clad in thongs and skippy tops. Duh. I actually eat and have a couple drinks before I come here and bring a couple more with me in a cooler or flask. Then I just nurse one over priced $10 beer and admire the talent.
I try to catch the shift change just after 5:00. You get to see the early batch of girls, then see the little pussy parade that they do, where they do a lap around the entire bar waving around little flashing light sticks. Great way to see the entire shift and to compare and contrast them, in order to be sure that you choose the station that the hottest girl is serving.
I love to get all wound up here and then go release the hounds at an AMP or independent provider. I have to disagree with the TV complaint too but to each their own. I'm sure some are available for take-out. You'd just have to establish a rapport, then allude to what you're going to do after she's gotten you so revved up. Just like a strip club. You just have to be nuanced and discrete. I talked to a bunch of strippers this weekend. Most didn't seem to be down but didn't trip. One really hot one gave me her contact for future take-out though. Score.
ArrogantBstrd
01-06-25, 14:11
It's just a Mexican Hooters. Maybe a bit more risque?
In Texas, the staff wore just lingerie on some days. The food was more comparable to Taco Bell rather than some Mom / Pop shop that we're used to in SD. I would hope that our beer and food selection here would be better, but I wouldn't be surprised by chain restaurant strategy.
Hoots, Ojos Locos, Tilted Kilt, Twin Peaks. I like them. They're not overly aggressive like strip clubs. Nothing is expected, but you can definitely negotiate some sugar babies from those places.
Lascivious
01-06-25, 17:26
I went there today for the first time, and I couldn't believe how much ass was on display. After two beers and a burger I was ready for action! The girls are basically in sexy lingerie leaving little to the imagination. My only complaint is they needed more than one bartender. The one bartender was a smoking hot black gringa. She was the only non-latina working. No action taken afterwards but I was feeling it for sure. Makes me wonder if these chicks have side hustles.There were 3 bartenders early Friday night. I like the black gringa girl too. You just know some of these girls are up for more. I wouldn't be surprised if some pop up at local strip clubs.
ArrogantBstrd
01-07-25, 02:39
There were 3 bartenders early Friday night. I like the black gringa girl too. You just know some of these girls are up for more. I wouldn't be surprised if some pop up at local strip clubs.Yes, the girls at Hoots bartend part-time at Pacers or Candy Land (or Shop or whatever it is.). They also do big party busses to the same spots.
How often do you guys think that mongers fall for providers? Meaning, I can save her and she will be mine, and only mine. It's easy money for these girls and they're good at seducing guys. Only reason I ask, is because I met up with one the other day and my mind went wild thinking if I could hit it every day without paying a hefty price, then and only then, would it be worth it. Money flows for these girls, it comes too easy for them. Unless they need citizenship, I doubt they're going to stop their hustle for some guy with good dick. Her moans weren't too dramatic, and she seemed to like the session, so maybe I have a shot boys LOL. Just curious if you gentlemen have ever heard of guys pulling providers, it would be interesting to hear any stories. I could deal with only using a translator app instead of conversating haha.
BluesBalls
01-11-25, 14:39
How often do you guys think that mongers fall for providers? Meaning, I can save her and she will be mine, and only mine. It's easy money for these girls and they're good at seducing guys. Only reason I ask, is because I met up with one the other day and my mind went wild thinking if I could hit it every day without paying a hefty price, then and only then, would it be worth it. Money flows for these girls, it comes too easy for them. Unless they need citizenship, I doubt they're going to stop their hustle for some guy with good dick. Her moans weren't too dramatic, and she seemed to like the session, so maybe I have a shot boys LOL. Just curious if you gentlemen have ever heard of guys pulling providers, it would be interesting to hear any stories. I could deal with only using a translator app instead of conversating haha.I'm sure it happens often, we probably don't hear about it on this site because he would immediately and rightfully get ridiculed for it.
I know one provider I visited that was married to and had a kid with a monger, but he was never her client. But he was a client for and met her through another provider who was sharing space with her or just friends with her, I can't remember, and he saw her around, chatted her up, and just asked her out on a real date and she accepted. I think it might work if she's just a provider and you date her, but not if she's your provider and you're her client, she'll probably never stop seeing you as a client / atm.
I once dated an escort for real. I met her outside mongering world and we hit it off so I asked her out. She told me later she was an escort and I told her it was cool because I was a monger and we generally understood each other. This was in a different city, I won't say, but maybe some of you got to pound and fill her too. She was fucking hot. But she wanted me to be monogamous while she continued to do her thing, which she thought didn't count because it was "just work". Lmao Nah, I walked. Might've been nice otherwise.
How often do you guys think that mongers fall for providers? Meaning, I can save her and she will be mine, and only mine. It's easy money for these girls and they're good at seducing guys. Only reason I ask, is because I met up with one the other day and my mind went wild thinking if I could hit it every day without paying a hefty price, then and only then, would it be worth it. Money flows for these girls, it comes too easy for them. Unless they need citizenship, I doubt they're going to stop their hustle for some guy with good dick. Her moans weren't too dramatic, and she seemed to like the session, so maybe I have a shot boys LOL. Just curious if you gentlemen have ever heard of guys pulling providers, it would be interesting to hear any stories. I could deal with only using a translator app instead of conversating haha.Spent some time in the military and plenty brought working girls or flat out poor women back from their respective countries and 9/10 ended up miserable. Know who few guys who fell for providers here stateside and ended up broke and hurt. Working girls are for recreational use only! You can always play the part like you're going to rescue her her from the life, take her on dates and hit for free, but do not get it twisted for one minute! You're just a john to her at the end of the day and even if she does develop real feelings for you, are you ready to take full financial responsibility for a woman with no skillset who will be full dependent on you? All the money you will save on her house fee and tip will be quickly ate up by all the extra cost of saving that broad LOL. She sucks and fucks for a living. Have your fun and leave her where she's at my man. Like the old saying goes, can't turn a hoe into a housewife my man!
Spent some time in the military and plenty brought working girls or flat out poor women back from their respective countries and 9/10 ended up miserable. Know who few guys who fell for providers here stateside and ended up broke and hurt. Working girls are for recreational use only! You can always play the part like you're going to rescue her her from the life, take her on dates and hit for free, but do not get it twisted for one minute! You're just a john to her at the end of the day and even if she does develop real feelings for you, are you ready to take full financial responsibility for a woman with no skillset who will be full dependent on you? All the money you will save on her house fee and tip will be quickly ate up by all the extra cost of saving that broad LOL. She sucks and fucks for a living. Have your fun and leave her where she's at my man. Like the old saying goes, can't turn a hoe into a housewife my man!That we all need to review from time to time, no matter how long we've been at it.
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