Stupid Shit In San Diego

[Pete The Great]

He would say he wishes he could find a good looking WSW for a reasonable price.

Oh and he also drove around looking for Brittany.

LOL CC.LOL. He would probably say he was on his way back from TJ and stopped at the AMP. But the price they were asking for a BJ was outlandish. That's why he goes to TJ. The girls are just as good looking but a third of the price. Then he'd advise us all to use due caution coming and going from the AMP LOL.

[CuriousJo8]

I drove down fig once. I found the required multitasking of checking out a girl and safely driving one's vehicle not worth the two hour drive to LA County. Better to just head south and check out the girls in Hong Kong. No worries about getting into a car accident and a bed is conveniently available nearby.

To each their own, but that is my humble opinion.


Agree. Never picked one up, but that world is fascinating to me. I, too, love that thread. I'm even a little too chicken to make a drive by. Used to go to LA for work once a week, and was tempted to drive down Fig, but never did. Keep it up guys, it's the real world.

[Admin2]

My IP address is 2600:8801: a003:8000:5087: f07 b:7640: e885 dip shit. Or I can change that to "Not detected" or maybe even 185.236. 203.13 from Denmark. Label me Jackson. I'm calling your ass out as an admin on this board that is indiscriminate in how you administer this board. You have not followed the overall guidelines by publicly attacking me, "you're a fucking idiot". As an admin, I would not have expected you to attack a member of this forum, which you have done.

I was not looking for attention. I've been in the tech business for over 40 years and was offering suggestions. You may have used some of my black hat tricks. You don't want to take those suggestions, fine. Do not attack other forum members which is counter to forum guidelines. Now send your private email message to me again. I'd put the admin for this forum on my ignore list but that option has been disabled. Have a good day.I'll talk to anybody that talks to me with contempt any fucking way I want ESPECIALLY on a fight thread. If you have 40 years in tech then why am I schooling you about NAT. If you already know that you can spoof an IP address why in the fuck are you suggesting I IP ban people?

This is a designated fight thread where people, and I'm people, can argue, we created them to keep the stupid shit off the review threads, if you want to participate on this thread I suggest you put on your big girl panties.

I know you're used to shitting on people because you're a customer, but you aren't a customer here, you're a user, we appreciate our users very much until they forget that they are guests not owners, then I spank them.

Maybe these people can help you with the trauma.

https://www.mhasd.org/

[Admin2]

Honestly this forum was running fairly smoothly for awhile until one or two users started becoming really aggressive and applying unethical business practices. I wish the admins were more proactive about banning the accounts because it is night and day which accounts are associated.

Before, we used to have people post reviews, some a little over the top, but more or less honest at least. Some users would get offended at other's ratings and there would be a small discussion about it and that was that.

And then the bookers started showing up and kept pushing their subpar products on to us. There was also even a point in time where said individual would post blatantly negative reviews for competing agencies, but stopped when they started getting called out on it. They would try to promote poor business tactics as necessary actions, ie. Fake photos to protect girl's identities. But the worse of it. Was promoting trash providers in order to generate unwarranted business.

The forum has been poisoned, but it can recover. But the users need to be vigilant in identifying and removing these users if they do not wish to operate honestly.

Unfortunately it's still bad. I received a PM from a user after I left some negative reviews on SDAG girls telling me "he wanted to talk to me". For damn shame.I don't remove them anymore because then they make new users and the people who have them on ignore have to do it again. They are pretty good at what they do they use tons of emails and vpns but the content always gives them away.

Please report them and I'll always look at them.

A2.

[Sir Bishop]

I'll talk to anybody that talks to me with contempt any fucking way I want ESPECIALLY on a fight thread. If you have 40 years in tech then why am I schooling you about NAT. If you already know that you can spoof an IP address why in the fuck are you suggesting I IP ban people?

This is a designated fight thread where people, and I'm people, can argue, we created them to keep the stupid shit off the review threads, if you want to participate on this thread I suggest you put on your big girl panties.

I know you're used to shitting on people because you're a customer, but you aren't a customer here, you're a user, we appreciate our users very much until they forget that they are guests not owners, then I spank them.

Maybe these people can help you with the trauma.

https://www.mhasd.org/Thanks for the well thought out reply. No wonder your fellow admins hold you in such high regards. 🤣.

[Admin2]

Thanks for the well thought out reply. No wonder your fellow admins hold you in such high regards. 🤣.That was absolutely the WORST ad hominem attack I have ever seen. My fellow admins, I have no fellow admins unless you're talking about some user / admins on other forums. I know there are people who REALLY dislike the character I play on this forum I've never let it trouble me, I can't do my job if I don't piss some assholes off.

You started this by calling us out on a fight thread, I'm just going to keep making you look stoopid as long as you keep standing up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHDVCZICo4I

Have a nice weekend.

A2.

[Bogey The Last]

That was absolutely the WORST ad hominem attack I have ever seen. My fellow admins, I have no fellow admins unless you're talking about some user / admins on other forums. I know there are people who REALLY dislike the character I play on this forum I've never let it trouble me, I can't do my job if I don't piss some assholes off.

You started this by calling us out on a fight thread, I'm just going to keep making you look stoopid as long as you keep standing up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HHDVCZICo4I

Have a nice weekend.

A2.Thank you. Been years coming.

[Sir Bishop]

That was absolutely the WORST ad hominem attack I have ever seen. My fellow admins, I have no fellow admins unless you're talking about some user / admins on other forums. I know there are people who REALLY dislike the character I play on this forum I've never let it trouble me, <strong>I can't do my job if I don't piss some assholes off.</strong>
You started this by calling us out on a fight thread, I'm just going to keep making you look stoopid as long as you keep standing up.
Have a nice weekend.
A2.Yes, I called you out in this forum and you took the bait. By the tone of your responses to my posts, you take great pride to "piss some assholes off". Just as if this was your own little playground and you make the rules, don't have to follow the USASexGuide rules about Admin behavior, and everyone has to follow. As the admin of this forum, I asked you to list the guidelines for this Stupid Shit in San Diego forum since the top level General Rules state


"do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member."

"I'll talk to anybody that talks to me with contempt any fucking way I want"- I asked a question and no foul language or contempt was in my post. That does not sound like a response that an Admin for USASexGuide should use. You assumed contempt in a question that showed no contempt.


"The way to get rid of trolls is really fucking simple, trolls CRAVE attention, every single fucking time you guys address them you encourage them to post more.
I identify them, label them, and suggest you ignore them. You do not, you are part of the problem."- This statement shows your embedded contempt to the user base of this site with your assumption that multiple posts are trolls looking for attention. Then you state I am a part of the problem even though I've been a very good contributing member. Why am I the problem? Because I post a lot and give opinions?


...I identify them, label them, and suggest you ignore them. You do not, you are part of the problem."- Again, I called out dude in the first month he was here. You sent me a personal email, not the forum personal message, to stop.

These are my observations and I am not saying you are a complete fucked up pyscho running this forum. Not one bit. If you think that's what I said, read that statement again. I say what I mean. I'm too fucking old to not tell people the truth. I have no "inner child" you can hurt. Unlike others, talk shit to me all day. I'll still give you my advice because you are the only admin for this single forum but not all the forums. You got a tough job. I offered a way to you to find the abusers. Yes, IP address are still in use for tracking purposes. Your IP address is embedded in the private email you sent me. Yes, I can trace it.

[Admin2]

Yes, I called you out in this forum and you took the bait. By the tone of your responses to my posts, you take great pride to "piss some assholes off". Just as if this was your own little playground and you make the rules, don't have to follow the USASexGuide rules about Admin behavior, and everyone has to follow. As the admin of this forum, I asked you to list the guidelines for this Stupid Shit in San Diego forum since the top level General Rules state


- I asked a question and no foul language or contempt was in my post. That does not sound like a response that an Admin for USASexGuide should use. You assumed contempt in a question that showed no contempt.

- This statement shows your embedded contempt to the user base of this site with your assumption that multiple posts are trolls looking for attention. Then you state I am a part of the problem even though I've been a very good contributing member. Why am I the problem? Because I post a lot and give opinions?

- Again, I called out dude in the first month he was here. You sent me a personal email, not the forum personal message, to stop.

These are my observations and I am not saying you are a complete fucked up pyscho running this forum. Not one bit. If you think that's what I said, read that statement again. I say what I mean. I'm too fucking old to not tell people the truth. I have no "inner child" you can hurt. Unlike others, talk shit to me all day. I'll still give you my advice because you are the only admin for this single forum but not all the forums. You got a tough job. I offered a way to you to find the abusers. Yes, IP address are still in use for tracking purposes. Your IP address is embedded in the private email you sent me. Yes, I can trace it.There's a lot to unpack here so I'll go point by point. Hopefully the guys are finding this entertaining.


Yes, I called you out in this forum and you took the bait.So now you're the master manipulator who's intention was to draw me out for counterfire? Do you seriously expect anybody to believe that was your intention? You were bloviating and I responded there was no master plan.


By the tone of your responses to my posts, you take great pride to "piss some assholes off". Just as if this was your own little playground and you make the rules, don't have to follow the USASexGuide rules about Admin behavior, and everyone has to follow. As the admin of this forum, I asked you to list the guidelines for this Stupid Shit in San Diego forum since the top level General Rules stateI don't really take "great pride" in it. It does amuse me sometimes to do this when I run across a self involved self righteous prick like yourself but A2 is a character I inhabit for work, he shares some aspects of my personality, my abhorrence of bullies, my resistance to dysfunctional communication and my contempt for liars but I'm not nearly as big an asshole as A2 is, don't get me wrong, I can be a fucking dick but generally only when needed. As to rules governing my behavior on this forum there are none, this is indeed my playground and I do make the rules. You seem to be operating under the misunderstanding that I'm only an admin on this forum, I am not, I have global responsibilities on the USASG. If you doubt that I'll be happy to give you a custom user title that says "bloviating knucklehead who was stupid enough to challenge the forum Admins" and it will say that on every post you have ever made or will make. " My power on the USASG is nearly godlike. I know you will seize that phrase to portray me as a power mad fool who thinks he's something he's not even though right here I'm saying that I understand that godlike power is limited and doesn't define my life nor me as a person, it's just my job. Don't get me wrong, it's a great job, it has given me the freedom and resources to travel the world and work from home in my underwear for a really long time but I get it that it's a job and not a life.

I don't recall you ever asking about the rules for the fight threads, if I missed it apologies, the rules are simple, you can argue here. You can't threaten people, you can't dox people, you can't break any of the other rules but you can break some of the parts of these rules".

No Flaming: Please do not post any messages that harrass, insult, belittle, threaten or flame another member.

No Trolling: Please do not post any topic that disrupts the peace and harmony of this board. Don't create meaningless threads with the sole purpose of starting a dispute.

A long time ago I explained it like this on "The Rat Trap" which is the Orlando fight thread:

"There are a different set of rules in here. I won't redact fighting, you can call each other cocksuckers, stupid motherfuckers, whatever you want but no hate speech. The words, nigger, spick, kike, jap, ect. Or any use of words intended to be racially or ethnically derogatory are still not allowed.

No posting real personal info. Mostly what you can do it argue. What this means of course if there is ZERO tolerance on the review threads for that now. Normally it takes one infraction for a regular member to get put on permanent moderation and two for a senior to go back on. In Orlando now that number is the same for both, 1. ".

Hope that helps.



This statement shows your embedded contempt to the user base of this site with your assumption that multiple posts are trolls looking for attention. Then you state I am a part of the problem even though I've been a very good contributing member. Why am I the problem? Because I post a lot and give opinions?I don't have contempt for our user base, 95% of our user base are just guys looking for pussy that come here to not get robbed and find better pussy. I love our user base, they are just like me. I have contempt for self righteous pricks like you that make up facts to fit your argument. Trolls irritate me but it's the internet, there's no getting away from them. Guys who insist on engaging them while somehow thinking of themselves as better sort of irritate me too but again, part of the landscape.


Again, I called out dude in the first month he was here. You sent me a personal email, not the forum personal message, to stop.This is what I mean by making up facts, I have never sent you a "personal" email. I have communicated with you through my work accounts. You know nothing of me as a person.


These are my observations and I am not saying you are a complete fucked up pyscho running this forum. Not one bit. If you think that's what I said, read that statement again. I say what I mean. I'm too fucking old to not tell people the truth. I have no "inner child" you can hurt. Unlike others, talk shit to me all day. I'll still give you my advice because you are the only admin for this single forum but not all the forums. You got a tough job. I offered a way to you to find the abusers. Yes, IP address are still in use for tracking purposes. Your IP address is embedded in the private email you sent me. Yes, I can trace it.This is where you really go off the fucking rails. You don't tell people the truth anymore than I do, you tell people what you think, you tell them YOUR truth, not THE truth. I'm not an admin for just this forum, among my many responsibilities here (it's a small shop) is I'm the lead admin for the entire USASG and also the ISG as well. The last part where you say you can "trace it" it being my IP is really fucking funny, like you're some black hat who can look in my windows if you want. There are only about a gazillion web sites where you can plug in an IP address and find out what ISP issued it. Since I have posted publicly a million times that I live in Medellin you finding that out is no shock but you act like you can find me, the real me, you cannot, its just you making up shit again. The reason you can do that is because I'm not a troll and I'm not hiding, trolls don't do that, and you still have ignored the issue of NAT due to smart devices, mostly because it kills your entire argument and makes mine.

Bishop I'm bored with this. You will undoubtably make up more lies to respond and I'll give you the last word. Oh, one more thing, I'm not Jackson. Jax is a friend of mine but he got out of the forum when Fosta / Cesta was signed. He's been gone for years.

It's been fun but I'm out now.

[SirJizAlot]

I hope everyone had a great weekend in beautiful San Diego! For a bunch of guys claiming to have so many awesome massage and releases, some of you seem to be rather uptight, hypersensitive and confrontational. You would think the opposite of fun loving sex addicts enjoying San Diego's AMP scene and surroundings. This is a hobby yet some of you take it so seriously and clearly some of you are consumed. This is a hobby that I enjoy and enjoy sharing in one form or another on these forums.

Though I sense the bitterness and aggressiveness in your words, the triviality of it all is brought into perspective as I sit on the pussy whipped bench of shame. These benches are strategically placed inside or in front of most women's stores / departments that I share with other PW'd guys, as we wait for our ladies to finish their shopping. Watching over their numerous bags of overpriced clothing, accessories, whatever, fully aware that the next pussy whipping will be returning at least half of it. How a day at the beach turned into a shopping marathon befuddles me, but it's what gentleman do for their ladies. . . Or at least that's what I tell myself to rationalize missing several other things I'd rather be doing in hopes, but no guarantee, of a little piece of loving later today. Actually, this little darling has my heart for the week and anything I can do to see her smile makes my day. So I pass the time, waiting for my sweetheart of the week, catching up on the forum and WOAH, when I run across your post.

I've never attacked you or called you out so why the animosity? We both know why and I'm sorry. It was never personal. All is fair in love and war, depending which end of that proverb you're on. Jealousy is one of many emotions that's such a waste of energy and seriously, not healthy for your mind, body and soul. I've said it before and I'll say it again, most of us mongers have more in common than the petty differences that pollute this forum. In fact, aside from your grudge against me, there's no doubt we could be friends. Actually, I could probably be friends with most of you guys.

What really chaps my ass are the financial, political and conspiracy forums. That and the bad mongers that scam and hurt these working girls and the places they work at. If only we could focus our energy towards these real assholes, I wonder how much we could truly help our favorite working girls and establishments.

That said, I've always said there is that fine line between shilling and a positive report. You and I both know you've done your fair share of shilling as well, which I think is cool since we generally support the same spas and girls. My distinction between a shiller and a monger, that supports a girl and establishment, is their overall contributions to this forum. Aside from praise and fantasies, do they share any wisdom or advice based on experience or do they use phrases like "there's no need to go anywhere else. " Easy enough for me to see the difference.

Then there are the shillers that ask for or except payment for shill reports. You should know from your sources I have refused these requests numerous times and I never expect freebies on the house. Again, it's easy for me to distinguish the ones getting paid, but at least they're writing for the spas I support. But do they really need the money that bad that they can't graciously refuse any compensation and write an honest report that would still be favorable?

So you think you know me, but I know many of you or at least what you look like and for the record many of the girls say you're a pretty good guy. You can tell a lot about a member by what they write confirmed by what the girls tell me. Occupation, generosity or frugalness (polite for cheap ass), how you treat the ladies, perversions, risks, sexual performance or lack of, etc. . . I take it mainly as a fun fact and don't need to dox anyone, but it certainly adds another level of entertainment for me as I read some reports.

It's a shame that this thread has become a war of words as mine are more in jest. Probably not as amusing to the persons my flippant remarks are made, but seriously guys. . . Some of you need to toughen your skin.

The difference between me and some other members are my posts are unapologetically in support of these working girls and their spas as opposed to pride, seeking attention, notoriety, revenge, spite, etc. Admittedly I am a smart ass, but that's part of my charm and the ladies seem to like it.

In short, I hope your little rant towards me made you feel better. And to all you mongers that support these working girls, I apologize if I've offended any of you but I am what I am and I really wish you all the best.

Happy mongering!


The problem with replying to your various Pseudonyms Roger is that you use so many on this forum.

Sometimes it's laughable how you reply to your own posts with different usernames.

You have been a shill on this forum for years and gracious is not the term I would use to describe you, petty little vindictive ***** is a little more like it. I have known who you are for a couple of the years after some drama at a spa that doesn't get much Discussion nowadays (do you still hate the owners dog? Mostly I don't give a shit about your shill nonsense but it can get tiring.

You're a goddamn hypocrite to post about shills and if you want to look me in the eye little man and have this conversation face to face we can do that too as you know we have mutual friends.

I'm told overall your not a bad guy but from my point of your an annoying shill for a variety of places at different times and the Hypocrisy of some of your posts is galling.

[Bogey The Last]

So funny how these cheerleaders made such a big deal about VIP closing. Claiming they have a guy on video who was responsible for everything. When the truth is Mina and Lisa are back in San Diego and working and nothing has changed.

Like I originally stated, Mina texted me a couple of days before she came to San Diego that her and Lisa are doing very well and are returning to San Diego to work. So you numbnuts out there that claim that there was one person responsible for a ghetto Spa in Spring Valley closing can stop all of your BS.

And hopefully when brokeback mountains returns he and the muff can finally shut up. We're tired of hearing about all of this fake crap.

Bottom line Mina and Lisa are back and everything is just fine.

You're welcome.

[BlueSkyBlue]

Edited for brevity.


We both know why and I'm sorry. It was never personal. All is fair in love and war, depending which end of that proverb you're on.
Admittedly I am a smart ass,

In short, I hope your little rant towards me made you feel better.!Having a hard time keeping the pseudonyms separated Sir Jizz?

Funny, I thought this reply was to Ryan 1979 but oh yeah I'm still on moderation for some strange reason So you will read this later.

[Mr MuffMan]

I'm probably more lost that you are, EH09 M3. I feel like there are more than two factions at odds and I can't seem to figure which members side with whom.

I recently made the leap to AMP from independents and don't browse the agency forums so I might be missing a lot of background stories.


Edited for brevity.

Having a hard time keeping the pseudonyms separated Sir Jizz?

Funny, I thought this reply was to Ryan 1979 but oh yeah I'm still on moderation for some strange reason So you will read this later.It's pretty simple Penguin. You've got two mongers and their multiple handles. You've got thedude, with his handles like bogeythelast, that bacon guy and of course DelMarSurDog. He typically shills for the Asian agencies like Cris and then will provide close, but always a little off info about VIP and some other FS Spas. I've documented this in previous posts. He claims to be a fan of the VIP girls, but would say things to deter mongers from going to their Spring Valley location. It's pretty comical how two faced he is.

Then of course you got Ryan1979, who has god knows how many handles (SirJiz, Jaguar, Tomcruisssse, SeanMendendez, JohnRobe) and the list goes on and on and on. He typically shills for the less popular FS spas. As a matter of fact, I would say just about every review for Erma on here is from him. I can always count on seeing a review for Erma when I check this site in the morning. Typically the handle only has a few posts. He has so many handles he can't even keep them straight. Look at this post above. He's replying to BlueSkyBlue as SirJizalot, when BlueSkyBlue was replying to Ryan1979 LOL! So it's those two against just about every other credible monger on here. It's funny because they call things that myself, and other credible mongers post on here "fake crap", but if you look closely, you'll clearly see what we're saying is correct.

Mr MuffMan.

[RChangDatyKing]

We suspected these "two" members with the multiple handles back in March 2022. I've said this back then and will say it again- it's all about CREDIBILITY! They have none. They use their multiple handles to promote the "less traveled" spas because they are "in bed" with them. Everything they've accused mongers of doing they are doing themselves, but to a more extensive degree. They tried to disguised it with their multiple clones / handles. Why have multiple handles unless you have an agenda to promote? They tried to discredit PTJohnny and other trusted mongers that wrote honest reviews because they weren't writing reviews for spas / establishments they are trying to promote. Yes, they will still be around. Know who the reviewers are fellas!

Happy mongering! Go see your favorite girls and write those reviews so we know where the true hotties are.


Edited for brevity.

Having a hard time keeping the pseudonyms separated Sir Jizz?

Funny, I thought this reply was to Ryan 1979 but oh yeah I'm still on moderation for some strange reason So you will read this later.


Hey PTJ, Happy Spring Break! There has been so many wise and intelligent mongers on the forum that have reached out to me to say how ridiculous they think some of these guys are. This will be my last post about this topic because people have read these / this guy's posts and can see their / his agendas. This monger posted about SV "raids" four time recently but instead of just saying the name of the spa he wants to discourage people from visiting and taking jabs about he'll refer to them as a "very popular spa" on the forum. When the spa had a license check visit months ago who took the lead about the license check discussion and continued to add what the spa was lacking, security cameras and doors, etc. making it risky to visit. Yes, this same monger.

I personally wouldn't waste anymore time posting on the topic because it's not worth the trouble. People can see themselves when they read the past posts from him.

Now look who's jumping on his train to back him up. A monger who MANY have already said they don't even read anything he posts or write reviews about because of all the shillings he was doing for Cris and her crew who is known for bait and switch, shorting mongers on time, etc. This other monger already lost credibility with many. Now both wants to talk about mutual respect? Where was the mutual respect for you when he called you out after you posted facts about construction work being done at VIP. His words, "So much for the under construction story. Where's Poontang-J with his bogus report when we need him. " Now they want to talk about respect when people are calling them on their crap!

VIP2 remains to be busy because many mongers support them. These guys can continue with their jabs about VIP but they will remain open.

I'm with what another respected monger posted. Just put the fakes on your ignore list.

Happy hobbying and be safe all!


Thank you! I for one, really appreciate having an intelligent voice of reason defending VIP and us hobbyists from such allegations. You are without question 1 of the most respected, highly reputable member's on this forum, and your word's, speak volumes. The suggestion, that all of the reviews I've written for several of these hot VIP girls /3 somes, and all the glowing stellar reviews written by so many other reputable member's / peers here, have all been falsely exaggerated or made up, is beyond delusional. I'm not married, nor do I have anything to feel ashamed of or hide from. Hell, I'm actually really proud of all the hot fun porn like sexual exploits and 3 somes I've had with so many of these amazing VIP starlets.

I can name 4 usernames along with this person whom you quoted, whom I'd be willing to wager a large amount of money, are quite possibly, all the same person. With all these false allegations swirling about VIP, it's only fair for the both sides to be able to cast any and all aspersions, IMHO. I'd like to know if this is fair game and we can have this discussion out in the SS thread?

And to set the record straight: VIP Spring Valley, was Not raided recently (as previously posted), nor were they cited. They weren't even opened that day. Period. That, is a Fact! And if anyone here still feels the need to continue making more of these allegations up, then show proof / evidence of the written citation, which we both know you can't, because it doesn't exist.

[Trusty Hairlip]

I don't have any idea what all this drama is about. I'm only aware of the dude's shill activity, but this seems unrelated (No good shows on tv at the moment, so maybe someone could post something in here and ELI5 for some entertainment value. Thanks.

[SirJizAlot]

Edited for brevity.

Having a hard time keeping the pseudonyms separated Sir Jizz?

Funny, I thought this reply was to Ryan 1979 but oh yeah I'm still on moderation for some strange reason So you will read this later.My little gift to you. Happy mongering.

[Trojan713]

He would say he wishes he could find a good looking WSW for a reasonable price.

Oh and he also drove around looking for Brittany.

LOL CC.He'd also be miffed that the girl was not interested in pleasing him in exchange for his $11 donation.

[Bogey The Last]

We suspected these "two" members with the multiple handles back in March 2022. I've said this back then and will say it again- it's all about CREDIBILITY! They have none.Speaking of credibility, I was just checking your profile over at TER. Not bad you have 27 reviews since 2017. Averaging about five per year. Not sure how many you have at RM.

In comparison the dude has 48 reviews at RM, and 88 reviews at TER. A total of 136 reviews and yes there was a review for Cris, but not one for any of the girls that she has brought.

Pretty credible if you ask me.

[CityboysUp]

It's pretty simple Penguin. You've got two mongers and their multiple handles. You've got thedude, with his handles like bogeythelast, that bacon guy and of course DelMarSurDog. He typically shills for the Asian agencies like Cris and then will provide close, but always a little off info about VIP and some other FS Spas. I've documented this in previous posts. He claims to be a fan of the VIP girls, but would say things to deter mongers from going to their Spring Valley location. It's pretty comical how two faced he is.

Then of course you got Ryan1979, who has god knows how many handles (SirJiz, Jaguar, Tomcruisssse, SeanMendendez, JohnRobe) and the list goes on and on and on. He typically shills for the less popular FS spas. As a matter of fact, I would say just about every review for Erma on here is from him. I can always count on seeing a review for Erma when I check this site in the morning. Typically the handle only has a few posts. He has so many handles he can't even keep them straight. Look at this post above. He's replying to BlueSkyBlue as SirJizalot, when BlueSkyBlue was replying to Ryan1979 LOL! So it's those two against just about every other credible monger on here. It's funny because they call things that myself, and other credible mongers post on here "fake crap", but if you look closely, you'll clearly see what we're saying is correct.

Mr MuffMan.You can add Bogey the Last to the list of the Dude's alternates. New member who is sufficiently vocal about the ongoing with only recent reports from SDAG? Yeah, plain as day.

My guy (Bogey the Last), if you want to advertise your stuff, go ahead. If you want to lie about your garbage stock, go ahead. But keep your shitty "activism" to yourself.

[Dog Rice]

Right-on, BlueSkyBlue.

I was laughing pretty hard with the identity mess-up you pointed out.


Edited for brevity.

Having a hard time keeping the pseudonyms separated Sir Jizz?

Funny, I thought this reply was to Ryan 1979 but oh yeah I'm still on moderation for some strange reason So you will read this later.

[MacAndCheese]

This is crazy that all this stuff, drama and everything being said and done. I didn't know how much craziness is entailed into this. You guys are troopers pushing for the support of all of them. I'm just a simple customer but big props to all of you LOL.

But devils advocate because everything online can be fabricated. I'm just putting my two cents here, what if, everyone who thinks the other side to blame, is blaming the wrong side. And the real perpetrator and person pulling the strings isn't even in question. Like some kind of master plan LOL.

Can't the businesses just run their business simply off the good nature of reviews and not attack others with subterfuge? Idk. Guess I'm too honest and humble.

[Bogey The Last]

If you want to advertise your stuff, go ahead.I call them reviews. 10 of them to be exact. No idea how I could advertise for 10 different girls and almost all of them work at different shops or apartments.

Alma the Columbian yesterday, Mina the Superstar, Lucy, cherry down in Lemon Grove, summer, EJ, Sophia at massage Oasis on Convoy, Eleven, Ivy at Flanders.

You nailed me to the wall, I am advertising for all of these shops. Yes I have an advertising firm LOL.

[RChangDatyKing]

Speaking of credibility, I was just checking your profile over at TER. Not bad you have 27 reviews since 2017. Averaging about five per year. Not sure how many you have at RM.

In comparison the dude has 48 reviews at RM, and 88 reviews at TER. A total of 136 reviews and yes there was a review for Cris, but not one for any of the girls that she has brought.

Pretty credible if you ask me.Let me see if I got this correct? You're comparing the number of TER reviews I have compared to the "Dude. " Why would you give a shit how many reviews he or I have? I already know the answer and I think everyone on this forum who has been a member more than 1 day also already knows as well.

I / we get it, you're trying to save face and defend your old banned handle. We all know you're the Dude! Your reviews give you away. What you write gives you away. The way you take jabs at mongers when you think you're providing intel gives you away. Why can't you just post reviews and give intel, without taking jabs at others while posting reviews / intel? I think another monger said it best, you always want to up everyone and want to be known as the MAN! Sorry, dude you have no credibility to me!

Why do you even care if I think you have no credibility to me or not? Why take so much interests in me to look and see how many reviews I have on TER. You did it once already as Delmar Surfdog where you tried to see how many actual reviews I had on this forum in my 70 posts or something like that. How did that go for you?

The funny thing is you keep wanting to call me out, but I'm not hiding behind multiple handles. There's many reasons why I or others think you lack credibility. One reason is the multiple handles you're using to promote your agenda and certain spas and establishments. Secondly, you continue to shill for the worse Chinese AAMP in SD and post fake reviews for them, while trying to discourage others from visiting the popular spas, saying they lack security, that the MMS is greedy, etc. I can go on and on but I think people get the point.

Back to my TER reviews. Another monger also said it best about how you like to report things but never actually give the entire facts. Yes, if someone had written 27 reviews in 5 years, I think it's not bad either. That's what you reported I have on TER since 2017. Well, you left out lots of significant details. Again you were only reporting what you thought you support your message. What you didn't tell everyone is, my last TER review was in December 2021. I had not been on there for 8 months. I just logged on today and counted how many reviews I wrote and was approved and it was actually 29. What you also didn't tell people was I didn't post any reviews in 2019 and 2020. So the 29 reviews was only in a 3 year period. Wow that makes me look pretty good, about 10 reviews per year. You also left out that I wrote 19 reviews in 2021. Holy shit, I must have been horny that year.

People who knows me know that after SDASP shut down, I spent 90 percent of my hobbying at the AMPs. I don't write reviews for going to AMPs. If I did I would have 100 plus reviews per year.

Again, I don't give a shit if you or the Dude wrote 136 reviews compared to my 29 in 3 years that are recorded on TER. You can have 10,000 reviews and it still won't matter to me because you've already established yourself to be a shill who post fake reviews and inaccurate information.

Maybe if you just post reviews from your personal experiences and not worried about everyone else, or what they post, or try to outdo everyone else then people might forget you're the Dude.

Cheers!

[MaximusKahn]

This is the perfect place people can spill their guts, shill for their bonuses, attack, defend, and others wise dump their crap.

It is brilliant to have such a thread. It keeps all the garbage out of the other threads that are more interesting and useful.

And as of late it has become very entertaining.

But of course if it's not for you or all this crap bothers you, don't come in.

Stupid Shit is the perfect name too.

[RChangDatyKing]

Below are some examples of what I'm talking about. You give intel, but you always take jabs at contributing members. Why is that? BogeyTG has 33 posts, you stated you just stumbled on this thread, but yet you have history of all the members you took jabs at as the DUDE. It's interesting how you take so much interests with the same guys that reported accurate information about VIP. It was great you made the first post about Mina being back. A monger politely thanked you for it. But when Mr. Muffman posted true and accurate information and detailed updates you must of felt the thunder was taken away from you. You were the first to post the breaking news. But now ALL the praises are going to Mr Muffman and you are no longer the MAN. Let it go. Let the folks in the know post the accurate updates. Be happy that Mina is back and go enjoy her and her girls. You will never be the MAN when you continue to take jabs at members that are posting positive intel.

Thanks for your interests in US!


Thanks A2 . 100 %.


Who wants to make the over and under on when the old. "VIP vips" show up talking about how they are the special guys that know all of these girls, should be funny because none of them have appeared at all but I know they're coming and claiming that they knew that Mina and Lisa were coming back. Absolutely hilarious.

Place your bets.
Agree 100%, it's been very refreshing these past 5 days with little Johnny up in the brokeback mountains on vacation, and the other FPF guys that are constantly high-fiving and telling each other that. "you're the man brother, thank you so much brother". But never contributing anything at all.

Also refreshing that Mina is back in town and hotter than ever. Thanks to all of the guys out there that actually write reviews rather than blowing each other.


So funny how these cheerleaders made such a big deal about VIP closing. Claiming they have a guy on video who was responsible for everything. When the truth is Mina and Lisa are back in San Diego and working and nothing has changed.

Like I originally stated, Mina texted me a couple of days before she came to San Diego that her and Lisa are doing very well and are returning to San Diego to work. So you numbnuts out there that claim that there was one person responsible for a ghetto Spa in Spring Valley closing can stop all of your BS.

And hopefully when brokeback mountains returns he and the muff can finally shut up. We're tired of hearing about all of this fake crap.

Bottom line Mina and Lisa are back and everything is just fine.

You're welcome.

[MacAndCheese]

Below are some examples of what I'm talking about. You give intel, but you always take jabs at contributing members. Why is that? BogeyTG has 33 posts, you stated you just stumbled on this thread, but yet you have history of all the members you took jabs at as the DUDE. It's interesting how you take so much interests with the same guys that reported accurate information about VIP. It was great you made the first post about Mina being back. A monger politely thanked you for it. But when Mr. Muffman posted true and accurate information and detailed updates you must of felt the thunder was taken away from you. You were the first to post the breaking news. But now ALL the praises are going to Mr Muffman and you are no longer the MAN. Let it go. Let the folks in the know post the accurate updates. Be happy that Mina is back and go enjoy her and her girls. You will never be the MAN when you continue to take jabs at members that are posting positive intel.

Thanks for your interests in US!I'm not all invested in this keyboard fight over who's who and which agency / spa did wack subterfuge tactics to another agency / spa but, why does it HAVE to be the ones in the know? Did this forum have a label for the ones in the know? Are they the end all be all for information? What if someone had a perspective or heard something different that's true as well. Seems very media / news controlling to me. Let free speech be free speech. Of course you'll trust the high post count person more but it doesn't hurt to see another perspective.

Of course a non-thrashing perspective without the ulterior motive of slandering mongers / providers alike. That ain't it. It just feels like everyone is trying to be that man, cmon, everyone here is just to have fun and share info. But I guess as men, we really do like trying to beat our chest and prove who's the alpha male. LOL.

Don't trust me though, I'm new and low count too, I posted at the wrong time since you guys will think I'm another clone. I'm just here sitting back enjoying the show with some popcorn doing my own thing.

[SirJizAlot]

Right-on, BlueSkyBlue.

I was laughing pretty hard with the identity mess-up you pointed out.For a number of reasons I've exposed these pseudonyms essentially killing them. Consider it a gift, especially to the boys I've been poking fun at. It's just a forum and I've had fun, at some of your boys expenses, so here you go. I knew some of you would revel in it and some maybe disappointed but again, it's just a forum.

I hold no animosity towards any of you and only towards the bad mongers that cause issues for our working girls. I'll continue to enjoy this forum and to my favorite member, I always look forward to him helping with my bowel movements. One final smart ass jab. I have many other ways to help these working girls that create a whole other world of drama for me so this is one less thing I have to worry about.

I can ramble on and I life has it's ups and downs, but I lead a blessed life.

All the best and monger on!

[CityboysUp]

Below are some examples of what I'm talking about. You give intel, but you always take jabs at contributing members. Why is that? BogeyTG has 33 posts, you stated you just stumbled on this thread, but yet you have history of all the members you took jabs at as the DUDE. It's interesting how you take so much interests with the same guys that reported accurate information about VIP. It was great you made the first post about Mina being back. A monger politely thanked you for it. But when Mr. Muffman posted true and accurate information and detailed updates you must of felt the thunder was taken away from you. You were the first to post the breaking news. But now ALL the praises are going to Mr Muffman and you are no longer the MAN. Let it go. Let the folks in the know post the accurate updates. Be happy that Mina is back and go enjoy her and her girls. You will never be the MAN when you continue to take jabs at members that are posting positive intel.

Thanks for your interests in US!If it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck, it's a duck.

I'm glad that you also see what I'm seeing. He went from a new member to someone who had seemingly good knowledge and then started acting all tough and shit. It's getting tiring with all the drama and nonsense, I just want to see good honest reviews from mongers so that we don't waste our time.

[Admin2]

Below are some examples of what I'm talking about. You give intel, but you always take jabs at contributing members. Why is that? BogeyTG has 33 posts, you stated you just stumbled on this thread, but yet you have history of all the members you took jabs at as the DUDE. It's interesting how you take so much interests with the same guys that reported accurate information about VIP. It was great you made the first post about Mina being back. A monger politely thanked you for it. But when Mr. Muffman posted true and accurate information and detailed updates you must of felt the thunder was taken away from you. You were the first to post the breaking news. But now ALL the praises are going to Mr Muffman and you are no longer the MAN. Let it go. Let the folks in the know post the accurate updates. Be happy that Mina is back and go enjoy her and her girls. You will never be the MAN when you continue to take jabs at members that are posting positive intel.

Thanks for your interests in US!By reposting all his posts you have done nothing but help him get traction. You're never, EVER going to "win" anything because his goal is attention and eyeballs and you FALL INTO HIS GAME ON A DAILY BASIS.

Seriously, just report them, explain why you think he's a shill, add him to your ignore list, and then move the fuck on and STOP HELPING HIM ADVERTISE.

The more you post, the more they post and here's a news flash for you, every fucking guy on this forum can see what you see, you don't need to point it out.

Seriously, stop this, I know you're about 80% troll yourself but stop or I'm going to ban you. No, that is not me taking the trolls side, I've labled him a troll, this is me trying to prevent them from getting what they are looking for which only serves to make them do it more.

Note this is in blue, I'm not asking you, I'm telling you, as the admin, stop doing this.

A2

[Jaguar300ZX]

A lot of interesting entertainment happening here!

[Rey KittyHawk]

Unfortunately the "Shill Wars" are not long long ago in a galaxy far far away. The are right now, right here in our own galaxy.

Maybe Luke ShillStomper will save us!


A lot of interesting entertainment happening here!

[Fonmyj]

As I was waiting for the go ahead from a provider I've seen several times previously last night, I see something pretty shitty unfold. Watched as the outside hotel room door bursts open and a younger dude comes running out wearing only his boxers, socks and one sandal. Has other clothing in his hands as he's sprinting towards the nearest stairs to exit the hotel. Right behind him is a visibly upset provider trying to quickly pull on something so she's not fully nude. She's screaming at this dude who I watch make his way towards a cargo van. He jumps in and proceeds to tear out of the parking lot when I notice the USG plates. The noise has now drawn the attention of other hotel guests nearby who poke their heads out. I contemplate leaving but decide to wait a little longer and finally go up to the providers room. She explains this loser showed up for a QV then when he couldn't finish the job decided to dash off with a donation. Not sure what the thrill of this was for him but clearly a dick move. This sort of BS ruins it for everyone. Pretty damn foolish do pull a stunt like this and even more when driving a USG vehicle. Hopefully karma catches up to this dude soon.

[Member #6468]

As I was waiting for the go ahead from a provider I've seen several times previously last night, I see something pretty shitty unfold. Watched as the outside hotel room door bursts open and a younger dude comes running out wearing only his boxers, socks and one sandal. Has other clothing in his hands as he's sprinting towards the nearest stairs to exit the hotel. Right behind him is a visibly upset provider trying to quickly pull on something so she's not fully nude. She's screaming at this dude who I watch make his way towards a cargo van. He jumps in and proceeds to tear out of the parking lot when I notice the USG plates. The noise has now drawn the attention of other hotel guests nearby who poke their heads out. I contemplate leaving but decide to wait a little longer and finally go up to the providers room. She explains this loser showed up for a QV then when he couldn't finish the job decided to dash off with a donation. Not sure what the thrill of this was for him but clearly a dick move. This sort of BS ruins it for everyone. Pretty damn foolish do pull a stunt like this and even more when driving a USG vehicle. Hopefully karma catches up to this dude soon.Takes some real cajones to pay for trim while whipping a govvie. Probably couldn't pay that guy enough money to give a fuck.

[MaximusKahn]

It can be difficult to reconcile the situation when a Monger posts a negative review about a Provider or Spa where you have a great time and posted a great review. We've heard the YMMV many times, but when you feel is was great, and they post it was the worst ever, it makes you wonder what happened.

What I'm guessing is that there was something about the Monger that changed the equation.

First of all, the Monger should know what he's after. If the positive report mentioned Milfs, he better not be expecting some 20 something spinner. If a monger wants full service, don't go to spas were only massages and HE's are mentioned. If he wants a good massage maybe, he should avoid half hour FS Monger Mills that talk about DATY, BJs, Analinguis, and shagging.

When the monger is not impressed or happy with the place or talent right away he should leave. If he is not happy going in and continues it's his own fault when he ends up leaving unhappy too. Figure out your own polite exit strategy if you want to leave. Staying when you feel it's not for you and ending up unhappy is solely on the Monger.

First time clients should recognize that they will not get the same treatment as a trusted regular. If they're going someplace for first time, based on a regular's recommendation, their experience will naturally be different. This is one reason many Veteran Mongers carefully share about their regular rotation locations, or their girls who give them specials. If they told you all they get, you will no doubt leave disappointed because new customers don't' usually get special treatment. Want the specials? Become a trusted regular.

Mongers had best check their own attitudes too. If they have a fucked up attitude towards the women, it's very likely the women will respond in kind. They might have to service a customer but they don't have to like them. Quality of service very often depends on how much you're liked, or disliked. Along with that, being rough and rude isn't a successful strategy either. Realize if you act like an ass, smell like an ass, you'll probably be treated like an ass and end up very disappointed.

Always consider cleanliness, grooming, and overall attraction. Some Mongers are hot studs some aren't. You probably can't change if you're a hot stud or not, but you can be clean, smell nice, and be well groomed. If you like teasing and special attention down there, trimming and shaving such places actually makes a difference to many providers.

Whenever I read a hostile and aggressive rebuttal or counter opinion of a Spa or Provider it's sometimes easy to see who's the problem.

Assuming you are not a shill or a troll. Should you go to a place on a recommendation and you leave disappointed, don't freak out and go on the warpath. Take a second, consider why you thought is wasn't your thing, and share your opinion.

Contrasting opinions are not a problem, starting a fight over contrasting opinions is a waste of this space. When you consider the many variables, arguing and getting angry over the level of services rendered is stupid shit.

As they say, you can disagree, just don't be disagreeable.

[Reds101]

Changing topics here. I would love to learn more about the people if y'all don't mind sharing some info to see if there's some things I could improve on, etc.

What are y'alls "routine" when going to an AMP or seeing an escort?

I always shower (even if they have a table shower, never know if it will be unavailable), groom myself and look presentable.

This doesn't mean I'm wearing a 3 piece suit or a button up shirt, ill still show up in gym shorts and a tanktop but I'm clean and fresh and it's pretty easy to tell.

I have a stock of 100 mg sildenafil pills and I'll usually split it into 1/4 or 1/3 and take one 30 min before I head out to an AMP (I don't always take them but I feel like it makes the visit more "worth it" since I can last longer) - if I take any more, I usually get a bad headache and super stuffy nose for the next 12-24 hours and 20 30 mg seems to be enough for me to be efficient without side effects.

Running pretty low so may visit TJ to pick up some more soon.

I also usually smoke a j before heading out or on my way there to get a nice high just because things feel better LOL.

Some providers are sensitive to the smell so I typically sanitize my hands / chew some gum after I'm done smoking.

I try to avoid late night visits since I understand that these girls are doing a job and nobody is in the mood to do a great job at work towards the end of your day.

I also try to avoid weekends because I figure that's when they have the most traffic.

[UCBaja2]

"What are why'alls "routine" when going to an AMP or seeing an escort? I always shower (even if they have a table shower, never know if it will be unavailable), groom myself and look presentable. ".

Me too, I even have a bidet at home, so even if I'm not fresh out of the shower I'm clean and smelling fresh under the hood. If I'm feeling horny I usually text 3 or 4 escorts to see who's available in within an hour.

"I have a stock of 100 mg sildenafil pills and I'll usually split it into 1/4 or 1/3 and take one 30 min before I head out to an AMP. ".

I have 50 mg pills and split that in half, so I'm always confident I can complete the mission twice. The pills work within 20 minutes of taking them so I can't be lurking in a provider's hotel parking lot asking if she has immediate availability. Once I have playtime confirmation set I take a pill and I'm on my way. That viagra headache is for real though! If you can't get a script from your doctor then TJ is the place to get a 10-pack for less than $5.

"I also usually smoke a j before heading out or on my way there to get a nice high just because things feel better LOL. ".

If I smoke a J before leaving my house I usually end up whacking off, so I usually refrain from weed before seeing any provider. When asked about weed Willie Nelson once said "weed is a lot like sex. It's all good, but some is a lot better than others".

"I try to avoid late night visits since I understand that these girls are doing a job and nobody is in the mood to do a great job at work towards the end of your day. I also try to avoid weekends because I figure that's when they have the most traffic. ".

95% of the time I visit the AMP / Escort before lunchtime. My libido is stronger in the morning. However, this strategy doesn't always coincide with the provider's schedule, as many of them are awake all night and don't come back online until after lunch. I also love seeing APMs / Escorts on weekends. My ATF escort always told me her slowest days are Saturday and Sunday. I imagine this is because for married / attached mongers it is easier to get away from work on a weekday than it is to get away from the family on a weekend.

[Waylay]

If I'm feeling horny I usually text 3 or 4 escorts to see who's available in within an hour.I'm guilty of this. What do you do when 2-3 of them respond back? How do you gracefully cancel on the ones you're not seeing.

[UCBaja2]

I'm guilty of this. What do you do when 2-3 of them respond back? How do you gracefully cancel on the ones you're not seeing.They know the game!

But what if one says "okay, come on over" and when you get there she ghosts you. Now you have no standby unless one of the other responders has nothing going.

I totally prefer "hit it while I'm horny" over "make an appt tomorrow at 2 pm". Should I make two appointments precluding that one will ghost me?

[Reds101]

I'm guilty of this. What do you do when 2-3 of them respond back? How do you gracefully cancel on the ones you're not seeing.This is why I've been sticking more to AMP's or sometimes SW, I also hate scheduling in advance and partake in this hobby pretty impulsively.

[Skajikhan]

We all need an outlet pussy pass since fucking is much more enjoyable then jacking off ever was.

[BillyIsTheOne]

Changing topics here. I would love to learn more about the people if y'all don't mind sharing some info to see if there's some things I could improve on, etc.

What are y'alls "routine" when going to an AMP or seeing an escort?
Crazy. This is my exact routine except for smoking LOL! BTW, you can get sildenafil in 20 mg tablets. Its prescribed that way for pulmonary hypertension. My doctor wasnt aware of that but found it in the computer and prescribed it for me so I can get it at Costco. Now I can take 2 or 3 of those depending on how I'm feeling that morning and it almost guarantees 2 pops within the hour. Definitely a confidence booster as well. Take an ibuprofen at the same time to avoid the headache.

[ArtVandalayy]

Crazy. This is my exact routine except for smoking LOL! BTW, you can get sildenafil in 20 mg tablets. Its prescribed that way for pulmonary hypertension. My doctor wasnt aware of that but found it in the computer and prescribed it for me so I can get it at Costco. Now I can take 2 or 3 of those depending on how I'm feeling that morning and it almost guarantees 2 pops within the hour. Definitely a confidence booster as well. Take an ibuprofen at the same time to avoid the headache.If you want cheap Sildenafil the best way to get it IMO is to download the GoodRx app and sign up. It's 19 dollars to do a text consultation with a doctor to get a prescription. Then you can pick it up at your local pharmacy. I get 30 x 50 mg pills for $12.86 and just pick them up at my local CVS. The whole process takes about 30 minutes and you can grab your script about an hour after.

[Member #6293]

"What are why'alls "routine" when going to an AMP or seeing an escort? I always shower (even if they have a table shower, never know if it will be unavailable), groom myself and look presentable. ".

Me too, I even have a bidet at home, so even if I'm not fresh out of the shower I'm clean and smelling fresh under the hood. If I'm feeling horny I usually text 3 or 4 escorts to see who's available in within an hour.

"I have a stock of 100 mg sildenafil pills and I'll usually split it into 1/4 or 1/3 and take one 30 min before I head out to an AMP. "

I have 50 mg pills and split that in half, so I'm always confident I can complete the mission twice. The pills work within 20 minutes of taking them so I can't be lurking in a provider's hotel parking lot asking if she has immediate availability. Once I have playtime confirmation set I take a pill and I'm on my way. That viagra headache is for real though! If you can't get a script from your doctor then TJ is the place to get a 10-pack for less than $5..I get Sildenafil from my doctor but my insurance only allows 10 pills per month. Otherwise I'm ordering them online from Hims and it's like $30 for only 8 doses. I don't have access to TJ but if anybody's willing to pick a bunch up for me I'll gladly pay them for it!

[Reds101]

If you want cheap Sildenafil the best way to get it IMO is to download the GoodRx app and sign up. It's 19 dollars to do a text consultation with a doctor to get a prescription. Then you can pick it up at your local pharmacy. I get 30 x 50 mg pills for $12.86 and just pick them up at my local CVS. The whole process takes about 30 minutes and you can grab your script about an hour after.Thanks for the rec, definitely seems like less of a hassle than going to tj. Ill give it a try when I run out.

[SDHobbyGuy]

If you want cheap Sildenafil the best way to get it IMO is to download the GoodRx app and sign up. It's 19 dollars to do a text consultation with a doctor to get a prescription. Then you can pick it up at your local pharmacy. I get 30 x 50 mg pills for $12.86 and just pick them up at my local CVS. The whole process takes about 30 minutes and you can grab your script about an hour after.Damn dude, thank you for sharing! I got to say, when I read your post it sounded like one of those fake customers you see in commercials, but you were spot on! Did as you said and within the hour I was set! My prescription is getting filled as I type this. I did have to run down to my pharmacy before as I needed to provide a recent blood pressure reading (had not had one in a while), but it was a smooth process and getting 30 x 50 mg of Sildenafil for $15.32.

[DragonBorn69]

Damn dude, thank you for sharing! I got to say, when I read your post it sounded like one of those fake customers you see in commercials, but you were spot on! Did as you said and within the hour I was set! My prescription is getting filled as I type this. I did have to run down to my pharmacy before as I needed to provide a recent blood pressure reading (had not had one in a while), but it was a smooth process and getting 30 x 50 mg of Sildenafil for $15.32.That's without going through any insurance, CVS doesn't need it?

[DRaj123]

Damn dude, thank you for sharing! I got to say, when I read your post it sounded like one of those fake customers you see in commercials, but you were spot on! Did as you said and within the hour I was set! My prescription is getting filled as I type this. I did have to run down to my pharmacy before as I needed to provide a recent blood pressure reading (had not had one in a while), but it was a smooth process and getting 30 x 50 mg of Sildenafil for $15.32.Thanks this is helpful for old guys 😀.

[SDHobbyGuy]

That's without going through any insurance, CVS doesn't need it?Correct, without going through insurance. I guess GoodRX doesn't work with insurance companies, they just give you "coupons" for negotiated rates with the individual pharmacies. They'll give you a list of your options near your address and what their prices are for that particular prescription. I have a CVS and Rite Aid walking distance, but for some reason, for my CVS, the same prescription was much more expensive, in the hundreds, so I went with Rite Aid.

[SDGuy1965]

After being ghosted by this chick for the last 3 months or so, I was finally able to schedule a hook-up with Lily DDD.

Then, this morning, I receive this e-mail message from her:

"Hey I wanted to give you a heads up, I got Covid and I cannot make it. Just wanted to let you know as soon as I found out. I am sorry!

Can I ask you something? Me not being able to come bc I'm sick really fucked me over. Can you Venmo me or cash app me $1400. Please? I'll take care of you and send you some sexy stuff. ".

One more thing.

I received a DM saying that she's been in Chicago this week. He even sent me the Eros link, but it has 2 new (bikini) photos in the ad. However, those bikini photos look like they're from a different girl.
Also, the ad also says that she's a XXX porn star?

(https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/3988162.htm?cat=32).

If any of why'all have ever been with her before, is this for real? Or has someone hacked her account?

I would really appreciate any info y'all could pass along.

Thank you.

[BlueSkyBlue]

Scam scam scam scam scam lovely scam.

Dude seriously this screams of you're about to lose money and get nothing out of it on every single fucking level delete and forget you had any fucking thought of this this provider giving you pleasure you find out it's a 50-year-old dude he's just trying to con you are worse.

Seriously red flag alert, To give a complete fucking stranger $1400 just because they asked for it.

Why the fuck is it up to you to compensate for their lost cash flow, seriously how deep are your pockets and how stupid do you want to throw your money away to seriously consider this.

Those are the questions you should be asking yourself and if for some region a complete stranger that you've never had a session with is worthy of you giving 1400 bucks please PM me because I could use the same cash actually I'm feeling really bad today could you send me 30,000 just to help me get through.


After being ghosted by this chick for the last 3 months or so, I was finally able to schedule a hook-up with Lily DDD.

Then, this morning, I receive this e-mail message from her:

"Hey I wanted to give you a heads up, I got Covid and I cannot make it. Just wanted to let you know as soon as I found out. I am sorry!

Can I ask you something? Me not being able to come bc I'm sick really fucked me over. Can you Venmo me or cash app me $1400. Please? I'll take care of you and send you some sexy stuff. ".

One more thing.

I received a DM saying that she's been in Chicago this week. He even sent me the Eros link, but it has 2 new (bikini) photos in the ad. However, those bikini photos look like they're from a different girl.
Also, the ad also says that she's a XXX porn star?

(https://www.eros.com/illinois/chicago/files/3988162.htm?cat=32).

If any of why'all have ever been with her before, is this for real? Or has someone hacked her account?

I would really appreciate any info y'all could pass along.

Thank you.

[SDGuy1965]

Thank you for your advice.

I wasn't planning on sending her ANYthing anyways.

However, the purpose of my post was to ask the other people who've been with her if this is how she really is.

Because she was a rather popular provider on TER and Erotic Monkey.

[Rey KittyHawk]

Changing topics here. I would love to learn more about the people if y'all don't mind sharing some info to see if there's some things I could improve on, etc.

What are y'alls "routine" when going to an AMP or seeing an escort?

I always shower (even if they have a table shower, never know if it will be unavailable), groom myself and look presentable.I'm always conscious about being clean when I visit a provider. When I can't see them right after my shower, I always clean up my ass to be sure there is no fart residue stinking up the playground.

One day I went to see a provider and stopped in the bathroom to clean up. I needed to check because I had dropped a deuce since my shower, and although I wipe my ass well I wanted to be sure. So I dropped my drawers and got a paper towel, put water and some of that flowery foo-foo hand soap on it and really cleaned my ass crack and balls.

When we get to the fun part of my visit I am getting the usual pleasant HJ and as she keeps getting her head closer and closer to my cock as she said, "clean" and soon starts sucking my balls, I mean that full on in mouth balls sucking like a woman who's having fun does. All this eventually turned into a BBBJ with her tickling my ass. She strips her top down and then pulls her yoga pants down so I can play with her pussy as she's pleasing me. She mumbled "clean" two more times between sucking my cock and sucking my balls. This bonus ending was more than I expected, but thoroughly enjoyed.

The other day I had a similar situation, where I was stopping in later in the day and went to the bathroom to clean up. That morning I had done some manscaping so I was trimmed up nicely. Again, I used the foo foo hand soap with water all up and down my ass crack and balls till I was flowery fresh.

When fun time comes we negotiate for a CBJ and she wraps me up and goes to work. All's good but suddenly she's alternating between sucking my cock, or my balls, and starts liking my taint (perineum) almost rimming me. Then all of a sudden she stops and strips naked. She then pulls me up off the table and lies on it legs wide open, which surprises me since we negotiated a CBJ, but I'm game. After a while she initiates taking it doggie, which is fun as hell, and then she flips over again and I'm now standing and she's lying legs wide open as we continue fucking. As I'm enjoying this amazing upgrade I lose my concentration and explode.

So all I'm saying is that these two times I thoroughly washed my ass crack and balls with hand soap and water till I was smelling like flowers right before the session and both times I got amazing unrequested upgrades. Although this isn't scientific, I am going to do this process every time right before I see them. We know women have very sensitive noses and it appears the smell of flowers has a good effect on them. It also seems that when my ass smells like flowers I get spontaneous upgrades.

[MainJamacha]

I'm always conscious about being clean when I visit a provider. When I can't see them right after my shower, I always clean up my ass to be sure there is no fart residue stinking up the playground.

One day I went to see a provider and stopped in the bathroom to clean up. I needed to check because I had dropped a deuce since my shower, and although I wipe my ass well I wanted to be sure. So I dropped my drawers and got a paper towel, put water and some of that flowery foo-foo hand soap on it and really cleaned my ass crack and balls.

When we get to the fun part of my visit I am getting the usual pleasant HJ and as she keeps getting her head closer and closer to my cock as she said, "clean" and soon starts sucking my balls, I mean that full on in mouth balls sucking like a woman who's having fun does. All this eventually turned into a BBBJ with her tickling my ass. She strips her top down and then pulls her yoga pants down so I can play with her pussy as she's pleasing me. She mumbled "clean" two more times between sucking my cock and sucking my balls. This bonus ending was more than I expected, but thoroughly enjoyed.

The other day I had a similar situation, where I was stopping in later in the day and went to the bathroom to clean up. That morning I had done some manscaping so I was trimmed up nicely. Again, I used the foo foo hand soap with water all up and down my ass crack and balls till I was flowery fresh.

When fun time comes we negotiate for a CBJ and she wraps me up and goes to work. All's good but suddenly she's alternating between sucking my cock, or my balls, and starts liking my taint (perineum) almost rimming me. Then all of a sudden she stops and strips naked. She then pulls me up off the table and lies on it legs wide open, which surprises me since we negotiated a CBJ, but I'm game. After a while she initiates taking it doggie, which is fun as hell, and then she flips over again and I'm now standing and she's lying legs wide open as we continue fucking. As I'm enjoying this amazing upgrade I lose my concentration and explode.

So all I'm saying is that these two times I thoroughly washed my ass crack and balls with hand soap and water till I was smelling like flowers right before the session and both times I got amazing unrequested upgrades. Although this isn't scientific, I am going to do this process every time right before I see them. We know women have very sensitive noses and it appears the smell of flowers has a good effect on them. It also seems that when my ass smells like flowers I get spontaneous upgrades.I'm the same way, just got to be clean. As Austin Powers said, "Personally before I'm on the job, I like to give my undercarriage a bit of a how's your father!"

[Jaguar300ZX]

I'm always conscious about being clean when I visit a provider.
I used the foo foo hand soap with water all up and down my ass crack and balls till I was flowery fresh.
I thoroughly washed my ass crack and balls with hand soap and water till I was smelling like flowers right before the session and both times I got amazing unrequested upgrades.Where can I buy some of tha Foo Foo Hand Soap? . Asking for a Friend.

[SteveCarlter]

I'm always conscious about being clean when I visit a provider. When I can't see them right after my shower, I always clean up my ass to be sure there is no fart residue stinking up the playground.

One day I went to see a provider and stopped in the bathroom to clean up. I needed to check because I had dropped a deuce since my shower, and although I wipe my ass well I wanted to be sure. So I dropped my drawers and got a paper towel, put water and some of that flowery foo-foo hand soap on it and really cleaned my ass crack and balls.

When we get to the fun part of my visit I am getting the usual pleasant HJ and as she keeps getting her head closer and closer to my cock as she said, "clean" and soon starts sucking my balls, I mean that full on in mouth balls sucking like a woman who's having fun does. All this eventually turned into a BBBJ with her tickling my ass. She strips her top down and then pulls her yoga pants down so I can play with her pussy as she's pleasing me. She mumbled "clean" two more times between sucking my cock and sucking my balls. This bonus ending was more than I expected, but thoroughly enjoyed.

The other day I had a similar situation, where I was stopping in later in the day and went to the bathroom to clean up. That morning I had done some manscaping so I was trimmed up nicely. Again, I used the foo foo hand soap with water all up and down my ass crack and balls till I was flowery fresh.

When fun time comes we negotiate for a CBJ and she wraps me up and goes to work. All's good but suddenly she's alternating between sucking my cock, or my balls, and starts liking my taint (perineum) almost rimming me. Then all of a sudden she stops and strips naked. She then pulls me up off the table and lies on it legs wide open, which surprises me since we negotiated a CBJ, but I'm game. After a while she initiates taking it doggie, which is fun as hell, and then she flips over again and I'm now standing and she's lying legs wide open as we continue fucking. As I'm enjoying this amazing upgrade I lose my concentration and explode.

So all I'm saying is that these two times I thoroughly washed my ass crack and balls with hand soap and water till I was smelling like flowers right before the session and both times I got amazing unrequested upgrades. Although this isn't scientific, I am going to do this process every time right before I see them. We know women have very sensitive noses and it appears the smell of flowers has a good effect on them. It also seems that when my ass smells like flowers I get spontaneous upgrades.Only common sense here.

I mean what do you all think when you go down a gal and she smells?

[Reds101]

Where can I buy some of tha Foo Foo Hand Soap? . Asking for a Friend.Any fragrance soap works LOL even just the target brand lavender for example.

I use Dr bronners as body wash normally and always give my butthole and balls extra love if I'm prepping for an adventure and I've had multiple times where providers comment how fresh / clean I am / smell and receive a lot more intimate service than if I was musty.

[Reds101]

If you want cheap Sildenafil the best way to get it IMO is to download the GoodRx app and sign up. It's 19 dollars to do a text consultation with a doctor to get a prescription. Then you can pick it up at your local pharmacy. I get 30 x 50 mg pills for $12.86 and just pick them up at my local CVS. The whole process takes about 30 minutes and you can grab your script about an hour after.Ran out of my Tj Viagra so went this route earlier this week and had no problems.

The only hold up was the 'prescriber' wanted my blood pressure readings which I didn't have on me. I just used 'average healthy measurements' on google just to get through the process.

Was prescribed 20 mg Sildenafel and picked it up without issues for less than $10.

[Rey KittyHawk]

Only common sense here.

I mean what do you all think when you go down a gal and she smells?The point isn't the importance of being clean. The need to be clean is a no-brainer.

I'm saying that when I smelled like flowers from the foo foo hand soap I got great spontaneous upgrades.

[DragonBorn69]

Ran out of my Tj Viagra so went this route earlier this week and had no problems.

The only hold up was the 'prescriber' wanted my blood pressure readings which I didn't have on me. I just used 'average healthy measurements' on google just to get through the process.

Was prescribed 20 mg Sildenafel and picked it up without issues for less than $10.Do you need to show proof of insurance when you do this, when picking it up at CVS, etc. ?

[SheriffBart]

Do you need to show proof of insurance when you do this, when picking it up at CVS, etc. ?You don't need insurance if you go through GoodRX. There will be a coupon for a discount that you can use when you choose where you are going to pick it up.

[SteveCarlter]

The point isn't the importance of being clean. The need to be clean is a no-brainer.

I'm saying that when I smelled like flowers from the foo foo hand soap I got great spontaneous upgrades.I hear you. And do so as well. It makes a huge difference.

[TheFishsd]

The point isn't the importance of being clean. The need to be clean is a no-brainer.You'd think so, but some of the OG's might remember a famous skid mark thread on a now defunct site.

[Captain Solo]

OK got you. There are quite a few girls in HK looking Euro. Girls from Guadalajara are some of the most wholesome in looks and personalities.

Argentina has a lot of beautiful, healthy, nice, sweet, gentle and happy. I am impressed with the characters of Argentinians.

The peso exchange rate used to be 3:1, now it's 400:1 in the black market. Guys in BS As have been bagging top-notch escorts for $25-30.

Avianca flies from LAX via Bogota to Bs As for around $450. Year end is good time to go as it's the summer in South America.


No, its a different Cecilla I saw is what they call a White Latina. Could pass for a Spain lady or from Argentina. Her unique look caught my eye from the 1st second.

[FuckedUp]

OK got you. There are quite a few girls in HK looking Euro. Girls from Guadalajara are some of the most wholesome in looks and personalities.

Argentina has a lot of beautiful, healthy, nice, sweet, gentle and happy. I am impressed with the characters of Argentinians.

The peso exchange rate used to be 3:1, now it's 400:1 in the black market. Guys in BS As have been bagging top-notch escorts for $25-30.

Avianca flies from LAX via Bogota to Bs As for around $450. Year end is good time to go as it's the summer in South America.Where do you exchange dollar to black market rate in Buenos Aires? Also any recommended websites to hook up with the girls over there? Thank you Captain!

[Captain Solo]

People do exchange on the streets. Ask your hotel management for referral to reputable ones. Make sure not get stuck with counterfeit bills.

Most sex providers in Bs As work through escort web sites like Argentina Baires etc. With lots of pics. Check the Argentina thread.

I booked a few beautiful young girls, nice, sweet and fun. If they send someone not to your liking, just tip her and request another.

Guys reported lots of bars with hot semi pros around the Recoleta cemetery area.


Where do you exchange dollar to black market rate in Buenos Aires? Also any recommended websites to hook up with the girls over there? Thank you Captain!

[Admin2]

OK got you. There are quite a few girls in HK looking Euro. Girls from Guadalajara are some of the most wholesome in looks and personalities.

Argentina has a lot of beautiful, healthy, nice, sweet, gentle and happy. I am impressed with the characters of Argentinians.

The peso exchange rate used to be 3:1, now it's 400:1 in the black market. Guys in BS As have been bagging top-notch escorts for $25-30.

Avianca flies from LAX via Bogota to Bs As for around $450. Year end is good time to go as it's the summer in South America.The blue rate on the peso is hovering around 280 not 400 and that doesn't mean that shit is 100 times cheaper than when it was 3-1 (November 2002) it just means stuff is cheap, purchasing power of dollars in Argentina is a complicated issue that depends a lot on timing.

Flights from LAX to EZE including AV are around 800 if you have to sit in the back. If I was going to do it it would be AM through CDMX for about 2500 in Biz. South America is really fucking big (google Peters projection and see how big it really is, all most of you know is the Mercator projection which distorts your understanding of distances in South America).

Top Shelf Escorts on AreaVIP are going to run around 100 USD to 150 USD better value is found on Solo Independientes but you're still going to be looking at 60-70. You can find tons of pussy in the 25-40 range on Bairesgirls. They will be way fucking hotter than run of the mill pussy in the US but if you want to bone chicks that look like pornstars it's going to be more than 30 bucks.


Where do you exchange dollar to black market rate in Buenos Aires? Also any recommended websites to hook up with the girls over there? Thank you Captain!On Lavalle (It's a street) between Esmeralda and Maipu on the right hand side (if you're walking towards Maipu) there will be a gallaria around 750 Lavalle that you can walk into and there will be a great big fucking guy sitting on a chair by the staircase. Just past him on the right hand side there will be something that looks like a leather shop but it's a cueva. There may be people lined up along the wall on the opposite side, if there is just get in line. Have new series 100 dollar bills that have no tears nor marks of any kind and when it's your turn go in and lay them on the counter and she will give you the right amount of pesos and none of them will be fakes.

Before anybody says anything, I know what I'm talking about, I'm Argentinian.

A2.

[Reds101]

Had the day off today (10/3 Monday) so I was productive. Cleaned my apartment, my car, did groceries, etc.

Got home and decided to smoke a joint and browse this site and rubmaps for fun but man rubmaps is such a shitshow. I've posted about this before but today I finally canceled my paid subscription after 10 years of membership there (my username is reds101 there). What a buzzkill rubmaps is these days.

And it wasn't the trolls that caused it. I may get some hate for this here but I honestly feel like the white knights are worst than the trolls.

I know that there's a lot of users that use this site that are also active on rubmaps (similar usernames, reviews, etc.)

The review and comments section for 108/ ocean has gotten to be a complete shitshow. And a continuation of the drama in the "stupid shit in san Diego" forum from months ago.

I may get some hate for this but I just want to get this off my chest:

What do some people get out of defending the parlor as if their life depended on it? I feel like the "defenders" of 108/ ocean make the problem worst than the trolls.

They give the trolls the most attention by replying 20-30 times to these fake reviews and that makes people click on those reviews even more.

As a former internet troll in my teenage years 10-20 years ago, I highly recommend just ignoring them and moving on with your life. Going off at the trolls and defending the AMP as if someone insulted your mother makes the trolls happier and makes them feel like they accomplished their "job" and will encourage them to continue doing so even more.

Think about it. These trolls spend 5 minutes top on creating a bs review and the same 5-10 people spend the next 3 days replying to each other and calling people out.

A lot of the white knights try to claim that these trolls are paid shills or owners of other parlors but if I had to bet money on it, I would guess that most of them are the same one or two people that are just getting a kick out of seeing the reaction that he gets from the defenders. Maybe I'm blissfully ignorant but just looking at their writing styles and responses, most of them are probably the same person.

There are plenty of fake 5 star reviews for other parlors but those users and reviews don't get called out. If anything, these are the types of reviews that we need to call out.

As a now (ex) member of rubmaps, don't trust reviews at the first glance. Click through to the user's profile and IMO it's a red flag if their profile is private.

You'll notice some spas have the same 5 star reviews by the same 2-3 people out of the blue. Most likely fake but it's getting harder to catch these accounts since they have started to make their profiles private.

Even just a few months ago, you could see somewhere like spa bello or rancho Bernardo spa (coming up with 4-5 star reviews out of nowhere and if you checked the user profiles before they were private, they were posting the same review in multiple spas across different cities and states.

108/ ocean is so well established at this point, the troll reviews are so easy to spot and ignore.

There's a reason the phrase "don't feed the troll" has been around since the beginning of the internet.

Anyways my high is completely gone but at least I'm saving 20 bucks a month on my rubmaps membership now.

[Reds101]

Do you need to show proof of insurance when you do this, when picking it up at CVS, etc. ?It's been answered by someone else but I can confirm I did not go through my insurance at all. I am familiar with Goodrx due to past employment and they are a legit company that offers coupons for common drugs that can be used without insurance.

[Waylay]

Maybe its just me but I'm noticing fewer reports getting posted of late. I'm definitely posting less, have been mongering less generally. Most of my favorites are out of town. But is it something else? Any of you guys tapering off for a while? I went almost a whole week with no mongering recently, was crazy. I felt rich, too, haha.

[Bushexplorer]

Maybe its just me but I'm noticing fewer reports getting posted of late. I'm definitely posting less, have been mongering less generally. Most of my favorites are out of town. But is it something else? Any of you guys tapering off for a while? I went almost a whole week with no mongering recently, was crazy. I felt rich, too, haha.Not sure if things are slowing down, but I agree there is less posting. So much so that I find myself looking at the ads on the sides which I've always ignored. Maybe it's been there all the time, but I noticed now that there is one for "Power Divorce. " I assume it's targeted advertising. It got me wondering how much business they get from mongers who got caught or decided that they'd rather monger than deal with their wives. How many of us have clicked on that ad? Are these ads linked to the forum you're in? I frequent the Ind Massage and in the top left is the divorce ad. If I go over to MP's, I see the Sugar Babies ad. Is that on purpose? The answer is, there is less to read in the forms and I need to focus on something that matters.

[Rocketron1006]

Maybe its just me but I'm noticing fewer reports getting posted of late. I'm definitely posting less, have been mongering less generally. Most of my favorites are out of town. But is it something else? Any of you guys tapering off for a while? I went almost a whole week with no mongering recently, was crazy. I felt rich, too, haha.Man, compared to the San Gabriel Valley section I usually read, you guys are burning it up. I realize that SD is a city and SGV is just a part of LA, but SGV has about 2 million residents--and more Chinese residents than the next 44 states *combined*vs San Diego's 1. 5 million. You re posting way more in proportional terms, and it's great stuff. So hats off to you gents, regardless of any minor speed bumps! I get my daily reading fix here (and visit your lovely city every week or two).

[Lovable]

Maybe its just me but I'm noticing fewer reports getting posted of late. I'm definitely posting less, have been mongering less generally. Most of my favorites are out of town. But is it something else? Any of you guys tapering off for a while? I went almost a whole week with no mongering recently, was crazy. I felt rich, too, haha.I think part of the problem is there are so many fake adds it's hard to pick out what's real. Much more convenient to hit a nearby AMP, no waiting for an reply, and easier to just walk away.

[RillaGawd]

I think part of the problem is there are so many fake adds it's hard to pick out what's real. Much more convenient to hit a nearby AMP, no waiting for an reply, and easier to just walk away.I've definitely just been to the places I've known or that's been reported 1000 x. The new leads I do find usually are dead ends.

[MaximusKahn]

After the amazing number of posts that came from the V. I. P. Storm it is only natural for everyone to kinda burn out on repeat "I got mine too" posts that flooded the forum. How many times can you read the same type of post about how great a girl is or how great a spa is before you stop reading them?

And when mostly FS action became the main topic of interest, I think many of the hour massage HE guys backed away from posting.

Eventually it will pick up as people feel they have something to say or contribute. We definitely have a great market for our hobby and SD outshines many areas in this respect.


Maybe its just me but I'm noticing fewer reports getting posted of late. I'm definitely posting less, have been mongering less generally. Most of my favorites are out of town. But is it something else? Any of you guys tapering off for a while? I went almost a whole week with no mongering recently, was crazy. I felt rich, too, haha.

[KingOfTheCrop]

Maybe its just me but I'm noticing fewer reports getting posted of late. I'm definitely posting less, have been mongering less generally. Most of my favorites are out of town. But is it something else? Any of you guys tapering off for a while? I went almost a whole week with no mongering recently, was crazy. I felt rich, too, haha.I wonder if it has anything to do with an economic downturn or the perception of one. Do we monger less if inflation and gas prices are high? I feel like I do even if it's subconscious.

I'm not old enough to have seen how both frequency and prices were affected by the 2008 economic crash Let alone how and if the posting cadence on a message board like this was affected.

[Trusty Hairlip]

Has the avalanche of fake Cris reviews begun?

[Tijuaniko]

Has the avalanche of fake Cris reviews begun?Same thought occurred to me.

-TJNiko.

[RolfTorren]

Yep. Here we go again. Been quiet. Too quiet. Caveat emptor.


Same thought occurred to me.

-TJNiko.

[CityboysUp]

Has the avalanche of fake Cris reviews begun?Yep. He's been trying to play quiet, but he keeps trying to drum up support for these low tier girls at Cris's.

These girls have to be better instead of advertising falsely. I mean, there are already tons of good AAMPs, and they're offering mediocre girls for regular prices. No thanks.

[CityboysUp]

Has the avalanche of fake Cris reviews begun?I would also add TruReviews to that list. He keeps trying to change up how he types but his messages are a dead giveaway.

The best way to know if a girl is good or bad, is basically to avoid any new SDAG girls that get reviewed and to avoid any from Cris's agency.

One good girl did come from SDAG though, which was Millie, but they will probably move her up to LA where she can bring in more business.

[RezzakSD]

I would also add TruReviews to that list. He keeps trying to change up how he types but his messages are a dead giveaway.

The best way to know if a girl is good or bad, is basically to avoid any new SDAG girls that get reviewed and to avoid any from Cris's agency.

One good girl did come from SDAG though, which was Millie, but they will probably move her up to LA where she can bring in more business.I'm not sure if the Admins here have the power to do it.

They could make user's have a post count for before you're able to create your own post.

Say you make it 30 posts. User would have reply to 30 posts before being able to creating one.

It would stop "New Users" from posting reviews.

Just my thoughts. I don't post reviews. I'm a lurker LOL.

[Cruzier1]

Maybe its just me but I'm noticing fewer reports getting posted of late. I'm definitely posting less, have been mongering less generally. Most of my favorites are out of town. But is it something else? Any of you guys tapering off for a while? I went almost a whole week with no mongering recently, was crazy. I felt rich, too, haha.I've been using the ignore function pretty heavily and now there isn't much to see. I'm also one of them 1 hour HE guys and outside of new places to check out, there isn't much information to be had. I don't blame others for not sharing either. The name of the game for nonFS is YMMV so care should be taken on what is shared publicly because others swarm the provider with inflated expectations. We've all heard those stories.

I have been wanting to branch out to indies but struggle with scheduling because I'm a short notice sort of monger. That's a big reason why I'm into AMPs.

I think you're also on to something regarding economic concerns. Prices have gone up across the board too.

At one point I was searching back in some threads before the pandemic and couldn't believe the prices and how much they have gone up. What is funny is we were all complaining about how expensive it was back then. If only we knew what was to come!

[AJaxer11]

I've been using the ignore function pretty heavily and now there isn't much to see. I'm also one of them 1 hour HE guys and outside of new places to check out, there isn't much information to be had. I don't blame others for not sharing either. The name of the game for nonFS is YMMV so care should be taken on what is shared publicly because others swarm the provider with inflated expectations. We've all heard those stories.

I have been wanting to branch out to indies but struggle with scheduling because I'm a short notice sort of monger. That's a big reason why I'm into AMPs.

I think you're also on to something regarding economic concerns. Prices have gone up across the board too.

At one point I was searching back in some threads before the pandemic and couldn't believe the prices and how much they have gone up. What is funny is we were all complaining about how expensive it was back then. If only we knew what was to come!I agree, the prices are significantly higher especially for independent MP and escorts. I'm lucky enough that my income has risen steadily over the past few years due to career growth so I am able to continue mongering frequently. I don't think we have a lot of new talent coming onto the Independent MP (RubMD) scene as of late, and a lot of older / established providers have taken themselves off the site and rarely post because their schedules are filled with their regulars. I know quite a few that just don't post anymore. It's so fortunate we have so much talent across various mongering styles (AMP, escort, FBSM, etc) but I wouldn't mind an influx of a bunch of new / hot independent providers to go check out. I've seen almost every person that's been mentioned and just stick with my rotation of AMP and independents nowadays.

[RolfTorren]

Not sure where to ask this but here goes. I find myself in the Convoy area a lot these days. The AMPs. Both FS and non. Are mentioned on various boards a lot. Its an incredible concentration of talent and opportunity. But what do you guys recommend for food after or before if you're in the area? Mexican, Asian, Med. , I'll eat it. Nothing too fancy, but good value, taste, and portions. Not looking to wait in a line as obviously part of my "lunch hour" has already been expended. Thanks in advance.

[Reds101]

Not sure where to ask this but here goes. I find myself in the Convoy area a lot these days. The AMPs. Both FS and non. Are mentioned on various boards a lot. Its an incredible concentration of talent and opportunity. But what do you guys recommend for food after or before if you're in the area? Mexican, Asian, Med. , I'll eat it. Nothing too fancy, but good value, taste, and portions. Not looking to wait in a line as obviously part of my "lunch hour" has already been expended. Thanks in advance.Some of my go-to's in the area since I live nearby as well. Nothing too fancy with not too much of a line because I work from home and go to these places for takeout often.

I also typically get them after the gym so higher protein places.

Carne asada nachos from Lolita's on Clairemont mesa (or California burrito) - their red salsa is great.

Bulgogi rice plate from H mart food court "Bann Cuisine".

Chick fil a on balboa.

Poke bowls from poke one and half on armour st.

In-and-out across the street from poke.

Tigris Mediterranean grill on Clairemont mesa.

Havana grill on Clairemont mesa (Cubano sandwiches).

If I feel like I want to save a little money, I go to the Costco on convoy to get a chicken bake and slice of pizza. This one normally doesn't check if you have a Costco card for the food area.

If I have more time, I like to go to raising canes in Santee (it's more miles than the one in Mira Mesa but way less traffic so only takes 10-15 min to get there from convoy area).

Most places you can order over the phone for pickup to reduce waiting time.

[CuriousJo8]

Arby's or Jack in the Box, mainly the latter is my go-to.

I am awful and the ladies do not approve, hehe.


Not sure where to ask this but here goes. I find myself in the Convoy area a lot these days. The AMPs. Both FS and non. Are mentioned on various boards a lot. Its an incredible concentration of talent and opportunity. But what do you guys recommend for food after or before if you're in the area? Mexican, Asian, Med. , I'll eat it. Nothing too fancy, but good value, taste, and portions. Not looking to wait in a line as obviously part of my "lunch hour" has already been expended. Thanks in advance.

[AJaxer11]

Not sure where to ask this but here goes. I find myself in the Convoy area a lot these days. The AMPs. Both FS and non. Are mentioned on various boards a lot. Its an incredible concentration of talent and opportunity. But what do you guys recommend for food after or before if you're in the area? Mexican, Asian, Med. , I'll eat it. Nothing too fancy, but good value, taste, and portions. Not looking to wait in a line as obviously part of my "lunch hour" has already been expended. Thanks in advance.Chopstix is a nice japanese style diner, food comes out pretty fast. Although the downside is I always end up fighting a nap the rest of the afternoon at work.

[Tijuaniko]

Not sure where to ask this but here goes. I find myself in the Convoy area a lot these days. The AMPs. Both FS and non. Are mentioned on various boards a lot. Its an incredible concentration of talent and opportunity. But what do you guys recommend for food after or before if you're in the area? Mexican, Asian, Med. , I'll eat it. Nothing too fancy, but good value, taste, and portions. Not looking to wait in a line as obviously part of my "lunch hour" has already been expended. Thanks in advance.Lolita's. Cali burrito, Carne Asada fries, or 2 in 1 burrito.

Tofu House. House Special with Galbi or Bulgogi.

Shanghai Saloon. Dumplings and a Fried Rice or any entree.

Mental Ultra Ramen.

Raki raki Ramen.

-TJNiko.

[PoonTangJohnny]

Has the avalanche of fake Cris reviews begun?Thanks to the anonymity that the internet provides these cowards (being able to anonymously create new shill accounts / usernames), this pathetic toxic cancer which has permeated this forum for so long with so many BS bogus reviews for Cris / SGAG, will never stop.


It's getting tiring with all the drama and nonsense, I just want to see good honest reviews from mongers so that we don't waste our time.This!


It's pretty simple. You've got two mongers and their multiple handles. You've got the dude, with his handles like bogeythelast, that bacon guy and of course DelMarSurDog. He typically shills for the Asian agencies like Cris and then will provide close, but always a little off info about VIP and some other FS Spas. I've documented this in previous posts. He claims to be a fan of the VIP girls, but would say things to deter mongers from going to their Spring Valley location. It's pretty comical how two faced he is.

Then of course you got Ryan1979, who has god knows how many handles (SirJiz, Jaguar, Tomcruisssse, SeanMendendez, JohnRobe) and the list goes on and on and on. He typically shills for the less popular FS spas. As a matter of fact, I would say just about every review for Erma on here is from him. I can always count on seeing a review for Erma when I check this site in the morning. Typically the handle only has a few posts. He has so many handles he can't even keep them straight. Look at this post above. He's replying to BlueSkyBlue as SirJizalot, when BlueSkyBlue was replying to Ryan1979 LOL! So it's those two against just about every other credible monger on here. It's funny because they call things that myself, and other credible mongers post on here "fake crap", but if you look closely, you'll clearly see what we're saying is correct.

Mr MuffMan.You nailed this never ending, every growing shill BS, perpetrated by these 2 fucking little cowards, perfectly MMM; however, you neglected to add his other shill accounts, used by that little smart ass Jaguar punk and that little JaziQueen gina to your list.


Edited for brevity.

Having a hard time keeping the pseudonyms separated Sir Jizz?

Funny, I thought this reply was to Ryan 1979 but oh yeah I'm still on moderation for some strange reason So you will read this later.Great job exposing this 1 shill using multiple accounts here, BSB. Bravo and thank you!


Honestly this forum was running fairly smoothly for awhile until one or two users started becoming really aggressive and applying unethical business practices. I wish the admins were more proactive about banning the accounts because it is night and day which accounts are associated.

Before, we used to have people post reviews, some a little over the top, but more or less honest at least. Some users would get offended at other's ratings and there would be a small discussion about it and that was that.

And then the bookers started showing up and kept pushing their subpar products on to us. There was also even a point in time where said individual would post blatantly negative reviews for competing agencies, but stopped when they started getting called out on it. They would try to promote poor business tactics as necessary actions, ie. Fake photos to protect girl's identities. But the worse of it. Was promoting trash providers in order to generate unwarranted business.

The forum has been poisoned, but it can recover. But the users need to be vigilant in identifying and removing these users if they do not wish to operate honestly.

Unfortunately it's still bad. I received a PM from a user after I left some negative reviews on SDAG girls telling me "he wanted to talk to me". For damn shame.Nailed it!

These toxic BS / disinformation tactics being used here, are not isolated to just a couple of multiple shill accounts posting here daily, but is also sadly enough, by some of the very Spa / AAMP owners, who are desperately trying to sabotage these highly successful AMP's (108/7's / VIP), they've been unable to compete against. These AMP's have taken a big chuck of income away from them. And it's crystal clear, that AAMP's like Cris / SDAG, are very desperate right now, and willing to stoop to a new all time slime ball level. I mean look at what these cowardly little fucks did to the girls at VIP.


The problem with replying to your various Pseudonyms Roger is that you use so many on this forum.

Sometimes it's laughable how you reply to your own posts with different usernames.

You have been a shill on this forum for years and gracious is not the term I would use to describe you, petty little vindictive ***** is a little more like it. I have known who you are for a couple of the years after some drama at a spa that doesn't get much Discussion nowadays (do you still hate the owners dog? Mostly I don't give a shit about your shill nonsense but it can get tiring.

You're a goddamn hypocrite to post about shills and if you want to look me in the eye little man and have this conversation face to face we can do that too as you know we have mutual friends.

I'm told overall your not a bad guy but from my point of your an annoying shill for a variety of places at different times and the Hypocrisy of some of your posts is galling.Once again, great job exposing this pathetic, "petty little vindictive little man" who has to hide behind all of these internet user names he's constantly creating. How delusional this little sick fuck must be. Creating all of these accounts making himself out to be a Doctor. Having conversations with himself. Seriously- 1 majorly fucked up person. One of these days, his BS will catch up to him and end up biting him in the a $$. What's funny, is after that fat gross little Dude gina got banned, then Ryan & his little Jiz fuck shill account were exosed, how they they both suddenly disappeared, and left with his cowardly tail tucked between his vagina.

I'd be willing to bet $$ that PoonTangJohnny will once again trigger this cowardly little shill to come back and throw yet another one of his temper tantrum internet outbursts. Which is exactly the way boys like him with "Peter Pan Syndrome inferiority complex, behave.


: D Just found out this forum. Read through 4 pages. Pretty nasty and awesome!

SDAG. Their gals are definitely going downhill especially in the age category. Wth their price, I would expect sub-35's ladies, but most of them are 40's+.Exactly Dog. They've (SDAG) has gone to shit and can no longer compete with the newer business model / girls these AMP's here have brought us. FWIW: I'm done ever again, giving Cris, SDAG and FEC or any other AAMP for that matter, my business.

And if you AAMP owner's are reading this (which we know you are), I have some very valuable advice to give you: Tread lightly. Keep this up, and YOUR Karma D-Day, will arrive when you least expect it. And if and when that day comes, good luck finding a new residential community to move into, to offer your prostitution services.

Keep fucking with these AMP's. And you'll find out just how easy it will be, to have you evicted. Two can play at this internet game. LOL.

Cheers.

[KingOfTheCrop]

Not sure where to ask this but here goes. I find myself in the Convoy area a lot these days. The AMPs. Both FS and non. Are mentioned on various boards a lot. Its an incredible concentration of talent and opportunity. But what do you guys recommend for food after or before if you're in the area? Mexican, Asian, Med. , I'll eat it. Nothing too fancy, but good value, taste, and portions. Not looking to wait in a line as obviously part of my "lunch hour" has already been expended. Thanks in advance.Cross street chicken and beer is some of the top rated food in all of San Diego.

[Rawzillaman]

Mental Ultra Ramen.

Raki raki Ramen.

-TJNiko.My order of ramen selections on / near convoy is Menya ultra tajima (one on convoy. Garlic edamame is a definite must get) raki raki.

Aside from that sushi deli 3 is great. Izakaya Sakura (basically right next door to aria massage) is extremely good. Cross street chicken is pretty good, I haven't been there in a while but bon chon is another great Korean fried chicken place with more options. I can order a 16 count and drive 45 minutes home for the wings to still be crispy.

For desert, you can get somi somi if you're craving some great ice cream. My current go to is cake de party. They have amazing soufflé pancakes and crepe cakes you can order by the slice.

[RolfTorren]

Welcome back John. Nice to see you hit the deck running.


Thanks to the anonymity that the internet provides these cowards (being able to anonymously create new shill accounts / usernames), this pathetic toxic cancer which has permeated this forum for so long with so many BS bogus reviews for Cris / SGAG, will never stop.

This!

You nailed this never ending, every growing shill BS, perpetrated by these 2 fucking little cowards, perfectly MMM; however, you neglected to add his other shill accounts, used by that little smart ass Jaguar punk and that little JaziQueen gina to your list.

Great job exposing this 1 shill using multiple accounts here, BSB. Bravo and thank you!

Nailed it!

These toxic BS / disinformation tactics being used here, are not isolated to just a couple of multiple shill accounts posting here daily, but is also sadly enough, by some of the very Spa / AAMP owners, who are desperately trying to sabotage these highly successful AMP's (108/7's / VIP), they've been unable to compete against. These AMP's have taken a big chuck of income away from them. And it's crystal clear, that AAMP's like Cris / SDAG, are very desperate right now, and willing to stoop to a new all time slime ball level. I mean look at what these cowardly little fucks did to the girls at VIP.

Once again, great job exposing this pathetic, "petty little vindictive little man" who has to hide behind all of these internet user names he's constantly creating. How delusional this little sick fuck must be. Creating all of these accounts making himself out to be a Doctor. Having conversations with himself. Seriously- 1 majorly fucked up person. One of these days, his BS will catch up to him and end up biting him in the a $$. What's funny, is after that fat gross little Dude gina got banned, then Ryan & his little Jiz fuck shill account were exosed, how they they both suddenly disappeared, and left with his cowardly tail tucked between his vagina.

I'd be willing to bet $$ that PoonTangJohnny will once again trigger this cowardly little shill to come back and throw yet another one of his temper tantrum internet outbursts. Which is exactly the way boys like him with "Peter Pan Syndrome inferiority complex, behave.

[Trusty Hairlip]

Just a circle-jerk of posting and replying to himself. Forgot he already pimped Christy Love in the porn star San Diego section, then criticized himself on another post for "seeing her" saying that he could do better.

[Dog Rice]

Truereviews called me "Mr. Rice." LOL. Sounds like booker of SDAG. LOL.


Just a circle-jerk of posting and replying to himself. Forgot he already pimped Christy Love in the porn star San Diego section, then criticized himself on another post for "seeing her" saying that he could do better.

[PoonTangJohnny]

I 100% agree with the Admin here, that when you continuously quote and interact with these cowardly shit disturbing shills posting here, and give them the attention they so desperately seek, then you're helping them achieve their end game.

With that stated, it's a slippery slope. Some of these little cowardly little fucking pussies, absolutely need to be called out. These damaging attacks (using disinformation tactics against certain popular AMP's has caused them significant financial damage and so much unneeded stress). My word to Admin here- This will be the only time I address this member in question, whom I feel, is crystal clearly just another in a very long list of shill / troll accounts, made & used by that little man boy coward POS, Ryan, for nefarious purposes. I will then add this person to my growing list of Ignored shill member's and won't mention his shill name again.

This member I'm calling out (FO9999), has been a member on here for just under a year, yet just about every single 1 of his 27 posts, have consisted of trolling; personal attacks against 108 and their girls as well as his blatant trolling against a few of the more reputable contributing member's here. All I ask is that you fellow member's read his post history here, then draw your own conclusions, and hopefully never give him the satisfaction of dignifying another word he posts here, again.

I'm pretty certain that he's never left an honest review for a single AMP girl here, yet he's constantly falsely claiming a few of the108 girls (Amanda & Yiyi to name a couple), offer Greek services, which I can say from personal experience, that they don't. He's also attacked 108 alleging "bait and switch" over an alleged appointment he had booked with Eva (just 1 of his many suspect BS posts here). And about the only member FO9999 has agreed with publicly here. Surprise! Yes, you guessed it: Ryan! Mr. JizInMyMouth himself! I could go on and on. But I digress.

Oh, and while I'm at it, it's worth mentioning that brand new reputable member from RM (LOL) who just joined here; the guy who joined only to share with his very first post here, making allegations that he got crabs (body lice) from a girl over at 108. I'm calling fucking BS on that cowardly little POS as well!

FO9999's post history:

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/search.php?searchid=12443404

FO9999's very 1st post here on USASG:


RChangDatyKing posts on average: posts two per day, visits masseuse every other day, does PR. I wonder if he / she manages or owns parlors / agency.FO9999's 2nd post:


"Over 1400 mostly positive and informative posts" let say half are actual encounters then he is a king $$ math does not add up unless they are Ads_Erotica. Then there is / are CuriousJo8 or it is Curios_108 averages 2 visits daily and counting.FO9999's M. O, is crystal clear to me!


Had the day off today (10/3 Monday)

Got home and decided to smoke a joint and browse this site and rubmaps for fun but man rubmaps is such a shitshow. I've posted about this before but today I finally canceled my paid subscription after 10 years of membership there (my username is reds101 there). What a buzzkill rubmaps is these days.

And it wasn't the trolls that caused it. I may get some hate for this here but I honestly feel like the white knights are worst than the trolls.

I know that there's a lot of users that use this site that are also active on rubmaps (similar usernames, reviews, etc.)

The review and comments section for 108/ ocean has gotten to be a complete shitshow. And a continuation of the drama in the "stupid shit in san Diego" forum from months ago.

I may get some hate for this but I just want to get this off my chest:

What do some people get out of defending the parlor as if their life depended on it? I feel like the "defenders" of 108/ ocean make the problem worst than the trolls.

They give the trolls the most attention by replying 20-30 times to these fake reviews and that makes people click on those reviews even more.

As a former internet troll in my teenage years 10-20 years ago, I highly recommend just ignoring them and moving on with your life. Going off at the trolls and defending the AMP as if someone insulted your mother makes the trolls happier and makes them feel like they accomplished their "job" and will encourage them to continue doing so even more.

Think about it. These trolls spend 5 minutes top on creating a bs review and the same 5-10 people spend the next 3 days replying to each other and calling people out.

A lot of the white knights try to claim that these trolls are paid shills or owners of other parlors but if I had to bet money on it, I would guess that most of them are the same one or two people that are just getting a kick out of seeing the reaction that he gets from the defenders. Maybe I'm blissfully ignorant but just looking at their writing styles and responses, most of them are probably the same person..I do agree with some of what you wrote, although I don't feel these "White Knights", you referred to over on RM, are worse than than these dozens and counting of shills Ryan & Dude have created / still creating and have used / are still using, here. And definitely no where near as bad, as the continuous viscous attacks (filing false police reports of sexual human trafficking & smashing in VIP's windows) this masked fucking coward perpetrated against the most successful AMP in SD AMP history (albeit short lived). Not even close!

Thankfully, I don't have a "paid membership" account associated with RM. What a fucking shit show and joke that place is! I joined only a few months back and I've only left 2 reviews for a couple of the AMP girls I've seen, under a different username there. FWIW- I don't plan of ever logging back on that place again and thankfully I never gave RM any of my hard earned $$. I'd much rather spend that annual $240 they charge you, on an AMP girl or some escort.

Which leads me to this site, and the difficult job that Admin & the Moderator's here have, spending much of their valuable time working hard trying their best to filter and silence some of these parasites off of this forum, or labeling some of these other accounts as "shill account" which is pretty much like a death sentence for any future credibility.

As of late, Admin has done an awesome job taking out and addressing quite a bit of this BS drama recently, & FWIW I'm really appreciative for them doing so. This is supposed to be a fun enjoyable hobby, a place where we like minded hobbyists can come and share personal experiences, and expand our horizons.

I've met some really awesome guys here, and have exchanged a lot of really helpful Intel with these guys, which has helped save me $$$ seeing bad providers, as well as some great recommendations. There are a real good core group of guys here whom I can relate with and share personal details with. On the same token, I'm learning whom I need to ignore; which has become pretty easy spotting with so many new shill accounts being created here. It's a never ending battle with these sick fucks!

And yes, I agree- it does work both ways. There are a couple of "White Knights," who do nothing but shill 24/7 for some of the more popular AMP's here. I ignore them as well. It really gets tiring.

People can think or say whatever they want about me (I frankly don't give 2 fucks), but I'll say this: I stand behind every single hot review I've posted here for the many hot girls I've been so deeply blessed to be able to fuck!

Let the Good Times Roll. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7BDBzgHXf64.

[PoonTangJohnny]

Welcome back John. Nice to see you hit the deck running.Thank you, RT- I really appreciate it! While I really loved being up in the remote, beautiful high country of Idaho. It really is so nice, being back in San Diego, where there's such a wonderful abundance of hot women / opportunities, and awesome surf!

[Dudeonthecouch]

Just a circle-jerk of posting and replying to himself. Forgot he already pimped Christy Love in the porn star San Diego section, then criticized himself on another post for "seeing her" saying that he could do better.We have a CSI among us. There is a thread about local pornstars, so I shared that I was in contact with Christy Love prior to her porn career and shared her seeking profile. I commented about another poster overpaying for her and you call that shilling? I was upset and shocked at how much he overpaid.

Go get laid man, you clearly have a lot of pent up anger.

[CityboysUp]

Add Sdalexsd to the list.

He's sent me several PMs accusing me of being a different "booker" because I leave bad reviews for clearly bad providers in SDAG. Also early on, he said the booker for SDAG wanted to talk to me.

Like Jesus Christ, we can't leave honest reviews anymore without getting suspected of being another booker.

It's getting really pathetic.

[RezzakSD]

Add Sdalexsd to the list.

He's sent me several PMs accusing me of being a different "booker" because I leave bad reviews for clearly bad providers in SDAG. Also early on, he said the booker for SDAG wanted to talk to me.

Like Jesus Christ, we can't leave honest reviews anymore without getting suspected of being another booker.

It's getting really pathetic.Pretty sure Sdalexsd is the booker for SDAG. It's literally the contact I saved for SDAG on my phone "SDAlex".

[MaximusKahn]

I've watched lots of guys do the walk of shame that it's obvious when you see it. I know this doesn't apply to all mongers who hobby, or which method you choose to hobby, but it seems to apply more to those who enjoy the AMP experience. And I think much of this is because our AMPs are often in very open, public, and popular business areas.

Obviously there are some family men, and men who have a significant other who really prefer their participation in this hobby to remain a secret for all time. Sure, you have to watch out who might see you, and it's best to choose your times and locations wisely, but nobody has to do the walk of shame. Even the new guys coming into the hobby, can learn to avoid doing it.

I've seen so many mongers look so guilty, entering or exiting a spa, or sitting in the lobby waiting like a chastised boy avoiding eye contact and trying to be invisible. More than one monger has noted the uncomfortable, and awkward, waiting time.

You can spot the guys who display a guilty mind set just by watching the parking lot. If you don't believe me, find a popular spa near a bar, and sit at the bar and watch. I sometimes grab a beer after a good massage and just people watch. Some guys will stroll so slow you know where they're pretending they are not going. Other guys will dash across the parking lot just short of a run trying to duck in unseen, but you can guess from their speed and trajectory where they are going. I've seen guys change course in mid step if they run into a guy going in or leaving a spa they are heading to. They suddenly making a sharp left or right, and some have even just stopped in their tracks looking completely lost. In each of these case it's their guilt ridden actions that drew my attention.

The guilty usually have their heads down, eyes locked low, shoulders forward, and try to not see anyone as if that means nobody will see them. The hats and sun glasses, and masks are convenient, but if you're behaving like someone with a guilty conscience they might help you avoid being easily recognized, but they won't keep you from being noticed and looking guilty of something. And if everyone walks in with a hat, shades and masks that almost unto itself looks suspicious. Especially on cloudy days, and when masks are not required. If you look like you're wearing a disguise, it will look like you are wearing a disguise.

I appreciate the concern about being seen, but realize if you think you're guilty of something, you will look guilty. And if you look guilty you'll draw more attention to yourself because of that. When you catch someone's attention they will wonder what you're up to. To avoid this, you have to dump the guilt.

Walk in or out or wait with confidence that you are just getting a good massage. Even if someone you know spots you, be open about it. I'm getting a massage for a bad back. End of story. If they try to imply it is something naughty, make them feel bad and say they have a dirty mind, then follow up and say it's not like that. You can even recommend the place to them if you feel so bold. Staying in the conversation and acting like you're happy to see them will further support you're doing nothing wrong. Trying to disengage quickly like you are terrified they saw you, will only compound their suspicions.

Other ways to avoid standing out with a guilty sign glowing over your head. We're all recognizable by our cars, so don't part right in front of the Spa. Don't make bee line across the parking lot to the front door if you parked far out. Walk down the side walk and survey the area a little, but don't be looking around like Mr. Nervous or strolling too slowly like you are window shopping. When you come out you can casually turn into the closest store, bar, or restaurant nearby and get a refreshment. Whatever you do, just use your regular walk. Keep your head up, shoulders back, and walk.

If you want to do the "disguise" thing, sure hats, sunglass, and masks will make you harder to recognize. You can also wear boring clothes that don't stand out. When I get my "massages" in the summer, I wear a black logo-less tee, shorts and flip flops. Easier to get naked in 10 seconds, and dressed in 20.

If you are being a naughty guy it also helps if you learn to lie well, just in case you are spotted and need to come up with a cover story. Personally I find a convincing truth to be more successful than a weak lie. Everyone is not a good liar, so it's easier if you drop the guilt altogether and believe you aren't doing anything illegal, immoral, or fattening.

Don't forget that the business around the spas tend to notice who goes in and out, how often and how many. So if you're acting all guilty and slinking around or basically looking suspicious you'll draw unnecessary attention to our favorite spas. One reason LE gets involved with Spa business is "complaints" by local businesses around them. Don't make other businesses want to complain about our spas due to what they think is suspicious behavior on your part.

If you have a SO, it might be a good idea to just open up about getting massages. Try finding a legit Spa, get a massage, and let your SO know that your back hurt after a workout and you got a massage, and it helped. You can even do a couples thing so she's a part of the legit "massage" experience. Maybe even request a massage as a birthday present. Then get one at least once a month and let them know about it. This way they won't be freaked out if they hear you got a massage, or spot you going in or coming out of a spa. You've integrated it into your normal behavioral patter.

Years ago I had a SO and every time she got her nails done, I told her I was getting "pampered" with a massage. She never gave me getting a massage a second thought (as far as I know). I only say that because we never discussed it further other than asking me how was it? And my answer was, great, you should come with me next time.

No matter what your plans or activities, your thoughts should always be; I'm just getting a massage, no big deal, no guilt here. Do the "walk of shame" no more!

[Member #6293]

I've watched lots of guys do the walk of shame that it's obvious when you see it. I know this doesn't apply to all mongers who hobby, or which method you choose to hobby, but it seems to apply more to those who enjoy the AMP experience. And I think much of this is because our AMPs are often in very open, public, and popular business areas.

Obviously there are some family men, and men who have a significant other who really prefer their participation in this hobby to remain a secret for all time. Sure, you have to watch out who might see you, and it's best to choose your times and locations wisely, but nobody has to do the walk of shame. Even the new guys coming into the hobby, can learn to avoid doing it.

I've seen so many mongers look so guilty, entering or exiting a spa, or sitting in the lobby waiting like a chastised boy avoiding eye contact and trying to be invisible. More than one monger has noted the uncomfortable, and awkward, waiting time.

You can spot the guys who display a guilty mind set just by watching the parking lot. If you don't believe me, find a popular spa near a bar, and sit at the bar and watch. I sometimes grab a beer after a good massage and just people watch. Some guys will stroll so slow you know where they're pretending they are not going. Other guys will dash across the parking lot just short of a run trying to duck in unseen, but you can guess from their speed and trajectory where they are going. I've seen guys change course in mid step if they run into a guy going in or leaving a spa they are heading to. They suddenly making a sharp left or right, and some have even just stopped in their tracks looking completely lost. In each of these case it's their guilt ridden actions that drew my attention.This is hilarious LOL. I literally give zero fucks. I park right in front of 108 and walk like 5-7 steps and I'm in. Never ran into other mongers while inside though. Always imagined I would just strike up some conversation. Who they're here to see or if they are on USASG. When I leave I usually leave with a big smile on my face, crack open the little water bottle they gave me and drink it before I get in the car.

[Bushexplorer]

I've watched lots of guys do the walk of shame that it's obvious when you see it. I know this doesn't apply to all mongers who hobby, or which method you choose to hobby, but it seems to apply more to those who enjoy the AMP experience. And I think much of this is because our AMPs are often in very open, public, and popular business areas.

Obviously there are some family men, and men who have a significant other who really prefer their participation in this hobby to remain a secret for all time. Sure, you have to watch out who might see you, and it's best to choose your times and locations wisely, but nobody has to do the walk of shame. Even the new guys coming into the hobby, can learn to avoid doing it.

I've seen so many mongers look so guilty, entering or exiting a spa, or sitting in the lobby waiting like a chastised boy avoiding eye contact and trying to be invisible. More than one monger has noted the uncomfortable, and awkward, waiting time.

You can spot the guys who display a guilty mind set just by watching the parking lot. If you don't believe me, find a popular spa near a bar, and sit at the bar and watch. I sometimes grab a beer after a good massage and just people watch. Some guys will stroll so slow you know where they're pretending they are not going. Other guys will dash across the parking lot just short of a run trying to duck in unseen, but you can guess from their speed and trajectory where they are going. I've seen guys change course in mid step if they run into a guy going in or leaving a spa they are heading to. They suddenly making a sharp left or right, and some have even just stopped in their tracks looking completely lost. In each of these case it's their guilt ridden actions that drew my attention.

The guilty usually have their heads down, eyes locked low, shoulders forward, and try to not see anyone as if that means nobody will see them. The hats and sun glasses, and masks are convenient, but if you're behaving like someone with a guilty conscience they might help you avoid being easily recognized, but they won't keep you from being noticed and looking guilty of something. And if everyone walks in with a hat, shades and masks that almost unto itself looks suspicious. Especially on cloudy days, and when masks are not required. If you look like you're wearing a disguise, it will look like you are wearing a disguise.This was a great read. I'm more of an FBSM guy and also do the occasional AMP and have run into someone I knew (I posted that quite some time back). It reminds me of a scene from a movie I saw where two characters are playing hooky from work and rowing a boat in Central Park and one says to the other, "What if someone from work sees me here. " The other replies, "What are you worried about, if he's here, he's playing hooky too!" That's the way I feel. When they see me, I also see them. The more natural you act the less people notice you. BTW, I wish I could recall the movie. LMK if anyone recalls that scene.

[Trusty Hairlip]

We have a CSI among us. There is a thread about local pornstars, so I shared that I was in contact with Christy Love prior to her porn career and shared her seeking profile. I commented about another poster overpaying for her and you call that shilling? I was upset and shocked at how much he overpaid.

Go get laid man, you clearly have a lot of pent up anger.So easy to spot the shill.

[PoonTangJohnny]

This is hilarious LOL. I literally give zero fucks. I park right in front of 108 and walk like 5-7 steps and I'm in. Never ran into other mongers while inside though. Always imagined I would just strike up some conversation. Who they're here to see or if they are on USASG. When I leave I usually leave with a big smile on my face, crack open the little water bottle they gave me and drink it before I get in the car.Literally, "ZERO FUCKS!" < +1.

I always park right in the very front like I own the gosh damn place! I really could care less who I run into at any of these places,. WE ALL KNOW, the only reason why, we're there!

I just wanted to say, DeadAzz- that I really so many of your posts while I was away and out of State for the past 2 1/2 months. Thank you, for keeping me so entertained!

[Member #6293]

Literally, "ZERO FUCKS!" < +1.

I always park right in the very front like I own the gosh damn place! I really could care less who I run into at any of these places,. WE ALL KNOW, the only reason why, we're there!

I just wanted to say, DeadAzz- that I really so many of your posts while I was away and out of State for the past 2 1/2 months. Thank you, for keeping me so entertained!Hahaha that's the way to do it! Glad you enjoyed my posts during your break! I'm kind of on something of a break myself. Trying to cut down and build up my discretionary funds supply so posts won't be as frequent. But I did post a long report just now so that should be up later today hopefully!

[Nannersd]

That is funny!

I stopped by to see a buddy at the bar down on Mission Gorge with my wife last month. The only empty parking spot was right in front of Moon Spa so I pulled in and mentioned to the wife "everybody is going to think we are stopping in for a couple's happy ending". She laughed and said well at least they are thinking we are going to have fun. LOL.

When we did see my friend he said "Hey, I thought you guys were going for a rub and tug". LOL.


Hahaha that's the way to do it! Glad you enjoyed my posts during your break! I'm kind of on something of a break myself. Trying to cut down and build up my discretionary funds supply so posts won't be as frequent. But I did post a long report just now so that should be up later today hopefully!

[Waylay]

Speaking of holding your head up high -.

When your friends or anyone else asks you about your body count, do you tell them the TRUTH-truth? On the rare occasions it comes up I share my civilian number. I don't think I could give the real number (some innumerable amount of AMP / massage girls) without having to explain it. A lot of us on here are probably into the triple digits by now. Most people close to me in my life have no idea.

[RChangDatyKing]

Speaking of holding your head up high -.

When your friends or anyone else asks you about your body count, do you tell them the TRUTH-truth? On the rare occasions it comes up I share my civilian number. I don't think I could give the real number (some innumerable amount of AMP / massage girls) without having to explain it. A lot of us on here are probably into the triple digits by now. Most people close to me in my life have no idea.I met a possible unicorn at a non FS AMP a couple weekends ago when I was back home and she asked me how many girls I've been with. LOL. I could not give her a number that was even close to the real number. She was new to the spa I visited and I think she was trying to figure out if I had been with any of the other girls that work there. Yeah, I don't think I can ever tell the truth. Even my best friends have no idea.

[Cobra Comander]

I met a possible unicorn at a non FS AMP a couple weekends ago when I was back home and she asked me how many girls I've been with. LOL. I could not give her a number that was even close to the real number. She was new to the spa I visited and I think she was trying to figure out if I had been with any of the other girls that work there. Yeah, I don't think I can ever tell the truth. Even my best friends have no idea.I don't even remember the civilian number LOL. I've been doing this shit for 22 years and I depend 2007 to 2010 in TJ at least once a week but on occasions I would go 4 times a week. My conservative estimate on the total number is between 250 and 300. Could be more.

YIKES.

CC.

[Member #6293]

Speaking of holding your head up high -.

When your friends or anyone else asks you about your body count, do you tell them the TRUTH-truth? On the rare occasions it comes up I share my civilian number. I don't think I could give the real number (some innumerable amount of AMP / massage girls) without having to explain it. A lot of us on here are probably into the triple digits by now. Most people close to me in my life have no idea.Nobody in my personal life knows a thing so I give my civilian number which before this year it was around 13 with around 4 or 5 TJ girls mixed in when I went to Adelitas a couple times back in 2005. Then 2013 I took a solo trip to the Philippines and in 10 days picked up 6 chicks, some working girls and some just picked up because it was that easy. Banged one hooker in Vietnam in 2016 and been clean until this year. It's been 10 months and my number has skyrocketed since I started mongering and especially at the pace that I'd been doing it. I'm not in the triple digits yet but I'm so close. Currently at 92! I can't even imagine myself saying that number to even my best friend without having to explain it.

[RChangDatyKing]

I don't even remember the civilian number LOL. I've been doing this shit for 22 years and I depend 2007 to 2010 in TJ at least once a week but on occasions I would go 4 times a week. My conservative estimate on the total number is between 250 and 300. Could be more.

YIKES.

CC.Right there with you, CC. I'm approaching my 20 years anniversary of hobbying. LOL.

Yes, I can't remember my college days, grad school and adulthood body counts either. All the college parties and girls coming to our campus apartments when there were beers.

[MaximusKahn]

I don't count my drinks or the number of women I've been with. If anyone asks I say I don't know and mean it. Civilian or otherwise.


Nobody in my personal life knows a thing so I give my civilian number which before this year it was around 13 with around 4 or 5 TJ girls mixed in when I went to Adelitas a couple times back in 2005. Then 2013 I took a solo trip to the Philippines and in 10 days picked up 6 chicks, some working girls and some just picked up because it was that easy. Banged one hooker in Vietnam in 2016 and been clean until this year. It's been 10 months and my number has skyrocketed since I started mongering and especially at the pace that I'd been doing it. I'm not in the triple digits yet but I'm so close. Currently at 92! I can't even imagine myself saying that number to even my best friend without having to explain it.

[TheFishsd]

Speaking of holding your head up high -.

When your friends or anyone else asks you about your body count, do you tell them the TRUTH-truth? On the rare occasions it comes up I share my civilian number. I don't think I could give the real number (some innumerable amount of AMP / massage girls) without having to explain it. A lot of us on here are probably into the triple digits by now. Most people close to me in my life have no idea.Sometimes way late at night when I can't sleep, I try to come up with a number of either civilians or pros. It's a hell of a lot better memory than counting sheep. I don't think I've ever gotten close on either side. Maybe one day I'll set up a spreadsheet hidden away somewhere for when I have those sudden memory flashes. But probably not.

[Miguel Honcho]

Hahaha that's the way to do it! Glad you enjoyed my posts during your break! I'm kind of on something of a break myself. Trying to cut down and build up my discretionary funds supply so posts won't be as frequent. But I did post a long report just now so that should be up later today hopefully!Once in AZ, I was getting a BBBJ and for some reason she didn't shut the door and a monger walked by. The look on his face was priceless. I also bumped into other mongers several times and remember once saying, "This place is awesome!

[DrPornDawger]

If I had game and money.

Anyone up for the challenge?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GnTgEHjFpQ&t=87s

From an article:

Possible? Absolutely. The man lived to be 63. Given that he apparently was very shy as a teenager, let's go with the very conservative assumption that he was only sexually active starting in 1958 when he joined the Harlem Globetrotters. He would have been 22. If we again conservatively assume that he stopped at the age of 50, this gives us a 28-year-long time span.

If he had sex with 2 women per day.

20,000 women ÷ 2 women / day ÷ 365 days / year = 27.4 years.

If you tweak the time span or the number of women per day (based on the fact that he was known to be something of an insomniac), then the notion that he accomplished such sexual promiscuity gains some more credibility.

A quote from Wilt himself in the final year of his life: "With all of you men out there who think that having a thousand different ladies is pretty cool, I have learned in my life I've found out that having one woman a thousand different times is much more satisfying. " (link: http://static.espn.go.com/nba/news/1999/1012/110905.html).

[Nothing24]

I kinda wish I knew my mongering number. I lost count before I even hit 20. I would probably guess in the 125-150 range but who knows 🤷*♂️

[Rey KittyHawk]

I'm sure Hugh Hefner has a pretty good tally. He was doing models and Hollywood actresses and very open about all his fun.

As for us, are we're counting different women or the number of times we've had sex? I'm sure many of us have sex with the same woman multiple times.

Are we counting blow jobs and hand jobs too?

Civilian and professional encounters?

Does swinging, swapping, sharing, and college orgies count too?

Are we counting the not so pretty ones we never told anyone about?

If everything counts, I lost count long ago.

[DrPornDawger]

I'm sure Hugh Hefner has a pretty good tally. He was doing models and Hollywood actresses and very open about all his fun.

As for us, are we're counting different women or the number of times we've had sex? I'm sure many of us have sex with the same woman multiple times.

Are we counting blow jobs and hand jobs too?

Civilian and professional encounters?

Does swinging, swapping, sharing, and college orgies count too?

Are we counting the not so pretty ones we never told anyone about?

If everything counts, I lost count long ago.I think different women should be the requirement. , Example You can see multiple movies, and but watching a favorite title more than once, counts as 1.

My. 02 cents.

[RealAccount123]

If I had game and money.

Anyone up for the challenge?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GnTgEHjFpQ&t=87s

From an article:

Possible? Absolutely. The man lived to be 63. Given that he apparently was very shy as a teenager, let's go with the very conservative assumption that he was only sexually active starting in 1958 when he joined the Harlem Globetrotters. He would have been 22. If we again conservatively assume that he stopped at the age of 50, this gives us a 28-year-long time span.

If he had sex with 2 women per day.

20,000 women 2 women / day 365 days / year = 27.4 years.

If you tweak the time span or the number of women per day (based on the fact that he was known to be something of an insomniac), then the notion that he accomplished such sexual promiscuity gains some more credibility.

A quote from Wilt himself in the final year of his life: "With all of you men out there who think that having a thousand different ladies is pretty cool, I have learned in my life I've found out that having one woman a thousand different times is much more satisfying. " (link: http://static.espn.go.com/nba/news/1999/1012/110905.html).There's a pretty good chance Genghis Khan had Wilt beat.

[Waylay]

I think different women should be the requirement. , Example You can see multiple movies, and but watching a favorite title more than once, counts as 1.

My. 02 cents.Different women is the rule for sure.

[Member #6293]

I'm sure Hugh Hefner has a pretty good tally. He was doing models and Hollywood actresses and very open about all his fun.

As for us, are we're counting different women or the number of times we've had sex? I'm sure many of us have sex with the same woman multiple times.

Are we counting blow jobs and hand jobs too?

Civilian and professional encounters?

Does swinging, swapping, sharing, and college orgies count too?

Are we counting the not so pretty ones we never told anyone about?

If everything counts, I lost count long ago.I count any pussy or ass I stuck my dick inside of. Even if I didn't bust a nut. I don't count handjobs or blowjobs. I don't count the times I got with a girl but couldn't get it up or only got the tip in before it went soft. Different women for sure. Threesomes would count as 2 if I stick both of them. Only blowjob I really count in mine is old lady Lindsey in Point Loma because even though I didn't fuck her I was fucking her face hard like a pussy.

[UCBaja2]

Someone who partakes in the this forum broke the 1st and 2nd rules of fight club! Whoever it was I hope karma fucks you real good.

[Member #6293]

Someone who partakes in the this forum broke the 1st and 2nd rules of fight club! Whoever it was I hope karma fucks you real good.What happened?

[Waylay]

What happened?I'm guessing someone showed a provider a review about her here.

[FuzzyDuck]

So someone talked?


Someone who partakes in the this forum broke the 1st and 2nd rules of fight club! Whoever it was I hope karma fucks you real good.

[Trusty Hairlip]

I'm guessing someone showed a provider a review about her here.Not hard to get an account here and browse the review area.

[Waylay]

Not hard to get an account here and browse the review area.Yeah agreed. Tbh I don't know what the original poster is talking about re: fight club, was just guessing.

[TheGirth]

Not hard to get an account here and browse the review area.You don't even have to have an account to just read.

[UCBaja2]

I'm guessing someone showed a provider a review about her here.This is exactly what happened. She was pissed off! It is easy to read these threads but there's no way she found it without someone showing her. This is our fight club guys!

1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB. 2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.

[Lion1]

This is exactly what happened. She was pissed off! It is easy to read these threads but there's no way she found it without someone showing her. This is our fight club guys!

1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB. 2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.She'll get over it. No reason for her to take it out on you.

[Member #6293]

This is exactly what happened. She was pissed off! It is easy to read these threads but there's no way she found it without someone showing her. This is our fight club guys!

1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB. 2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.Who was the provider? Hoping it's not one of the ones I've seen and reviewed on here LOL. But there are a lot of providers who know about it already. Sex workers and even mongers on Reddit talk so much shit about this forum all the time and get super worked up about it.

[UCBaja2]

Who was the provider? Hoping it's not one of the ones I've seen and reviewed on here LOL. But there are a lot of providers who know about it already. Sex workers and even mongers on Reddit talk so much shit about this forum all the time and get super worked up about it.Don't want to say publicly. Tried to PM you but your PM is full.

[RChangDatyKing]

This is exactly what happened. She was pissed off! It is easy to read these threads but there's no way she found it without someone showing her. This is our fight club guys!

1st RULE: You do not talk about FIGHT CLUB. 2nd RULE: You DO NOT talk about FIGHT CLUB.We know providers, spa owners, pimps, MMS / PPS read the forum and mongers telling providers they saw a review so they booked with her. It's the dbags that uses the reviews to pressure the providers into doing services that she's declined to them before, showing her the post (s) that she has offered the services. If the provider is not offering you certain services is because she doesn't want to. Don't use a monger's post to try pressuring her!

[Rey KittyHawk]

Even thought I agree we should not talk about "fight club" with the professionals, there is little chance they would not know about it if they've been in the business for any length of time.

And just like how they all talk about us mongers, they have to know we talk about them.

But it is up to us to post wisely, not to ruin a good thing, or share secrets better kept a while.

Did she object to the fact a post existed? Or was it the content of the post? Or both?

[Waylay]

We know providers, spa owners, pimps, MMS / PPS read the forum and mongers telling providers they saw a review so they booked with her. It's the dbags that uses the reviews to pressure the providers into doing services that she's declined to them before, showing her the post (s) that she has offered the services. If the provider is not offering you certain services is because she doesn't want to. Don't use a monger's post to try pressuring her!Exactly right, amigo. I've been in the position where a provider isn't offering me what she offered one or some of you guys. I don't like it but I know showing her some post isn't going to change her mind. Jealous behavior never looks good.

[PoonTangJohnny]

I have to give a big warning, I forgot to leave my wallet in the car and when I got dressed it wasn't in my pants. It wasn't below them either so it didn't fall out. When I said it was missing everybody suddenly acted stupid. I'm not 100% sure but I think maybe somebody took it.

This report may have been edited to show the fucking shills
Thank you to all the guys who did. These fucking shills need to figure out that the game has changed, people really hate them.

A2I was actually there in the adjacent room when this all went down! I could literally hear this shill screaming, hysterically, at the top of his lungs: "MY WALLETS GONE. MY WALLETS GONE! LOL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajmdnSKL5vM

And thank you once again A2, and welcome as well.

[Reds101]

The white knights / shills on rubmaps are a surprising breed. Wish admins there would take similar action as this FREE site.

Left an honest review for 108 - similar to a review I posted here a month or so back. Within 5 minutes of the review going live (it takes several hours for them to be approved and show on the site), multiple people marked it as "fake" and "not good" and someone even commentating that a review that is a month old is useless while hiding behind a private profile.

It's becoming kinda pathetic that I can recognize usernames of a website that reviews parlors that give handjobs LOL and this gave me sort of an epiphany that I am emotionally investing myself in the hobby more than I should. Of course I recognize contributors on this forum that I've been reading from for years and I can't thank y'all enough for that. But the fact that I'm recognizing trolls / shills / obvious simps is kind of a wakeup call for me like "WTF are you doing with your life" - and makes me feel even worst for those people that are constantly refreshing both sites to defend their favorite parlor as if we are insulting their mother.

It's not like I left a bad review. I gave 4 out of 5 stars! And because I didn't leave a perfect review, these white knights and shills jump on it immediately calling my review fake and useless.

I've had amazing times at 108, but what is another 5 star review of a provider that's been reviewed multiple times going to do? For places as popular as this I'd rather contribute something that might be helpful. I did not discourage anyone from going, just providing additional info from MY perspective so whoever reading can make an informed decision for themselves.

When you check yelp reviews before going to a restaurant, do you only look at the 5 star reviews? Don't you also take a look at some of the 2-4 star reviews just to see what they were about so you can make a decision?

There are currently OVER 620 REVIEWS for ocean with an average rating of what looks like more than 4. 5 out of 5 stars.

Let the reviews speak for themselves. We all know they provide great service most of the time. The handful of people that are always defending the place as if their life depended on it are really sad and ruin the purpose of sites like this and rmaps so if you are one of those people and reading this, take a long hard look in the mirror and ask yourself if you are actually helping out your fellow mongers or if you're just being a mouthpiece for pussy that you are paying for.

[MaximusKahn]

Some guys Shill because they are a part of the business, or are asked to report positive things by the MMS, owners, or even the providers. They may even be paid or compensated.

A shill may also just be a regular, who likes the Spa or provider and wants to let everyone know how great they are but in exaggerated posts.

Still a shill may be "in love" and have delusions that the providers are "in love" back. Their romantic delusions make them emotional about negative reports and can trigger emotional responses.

No matter, I'm glad Admin is on it to remove as many shill accounts as they can.

Let's get back to sharing honest intel, good, bad, or ugly and always, always keep in mind there are many factors that go into how good or bad a visit is. In all cases your mileage may vary, live with it.

[Member #6293]

Some guys Shill because they are a part of the business, or are asked to report positive things by the MMS, owners, or even the providers. They may even be paid or compensated.

A shill may also just be a regular, who likes the Spa or provider and wants to let everyone know how great they are but in exaggerated posts.

Still a shill may be "in love" and have delusions that the providers are "in love" back. Their romantic delusions make them emotional about negative reports and can trigger emotional responses.

No matter, I'm glad Admin is on it to remove as many shill accounts as they can.

Let's get back to sharing honest intel, good, bad, or ugly and always, always keep in mind there are many factors that go into how good or bad a visit is. In all cases your mileage may vary, live with it.Yup just got a PM from a shill on Humaniplex. One of the bookers is lurking on here and said he saw my posts and banned me from seeing their girls and then negatively rated me.

[RolfTorren]

Similar thing happened to me on HX. Now I leave a discreet time between visit and review and I never comment in the private clubs over there about negative experiences. Some are owned by bookers or management and are basically advertizing forums. Its hilarious to see the entitled attitudes of some bookers who tell us we should be grateful for sub par performance. Just keep paying and someone good might come along. The rule of thumb is keep your profile here undetectable and never let them know who you are. HX is a problem for honest reviewers because of the rating and verification system that's built into the site. I never rely on it much these days.


Yup just got a PM from a shill on Humaniplex. One of the bookers is lurking on here and said he saw my posts and banned me from seeing their girls and then negatively rated me.

[SkankHuntt42]

Similar thing happened to me on HX. Now I leave a discreet time between visit and review and I never comment in the private clubs over there about negative experiences. Some are owned by bookers or management and are basically advertizing forums. Its hilarious to see the entitled attitudes of some bookers who tell us we should be grateful for sub par performance. Just keep paying and someone good might come along. The rule of thumb is keep your profile here undetectable and never let them know who you are. HX is a problem for honest reviewers because of the rating and verification system that's built into the site. I never rely on it much these days.Yoo DM me think I know what happened.

[CityboysUp]

Similar thing happened to me on HX. Now I leave a discreet time between visit and review and I never comment in the private clubs over there about negative experiences. Some are owned by bookers or management and are basically advertizing forums. Its hilarious to see the entitled attitudes of some bookers who tell us we should be grateful for sub par performance. Just keep paying and someone good might come along. The rule of thumb is keep your profile here undetectable and never let them know who you are. HX is a problem for honest reviewers because of the rating and verification system that's built into the site. I never rely on it much these days.Same situation with me and the SDAG booker / shill account. I've been harassed constantly for putting up honest reviews.

And now they think I'm a different booker posting false reviews. LOL, that is just silly.

Fortunately I'm white, and I think most of the SDAG customers are white as well, so trying to figure out which monger to block would be a difficult task.

[DilDaddy]

Checked out this ad: https://rubmd.com/san-diego-ca/309ea767-6f88-4d3c-ac27-1bedb453682e.

No surprise pictures aren't real, but caught a glimpse of Bunny and had Coco. Bunny definitely has the larger rack, is friendly and flirtatious. Maybe I'll try her next but today I got Coco.

Coco is like an Asian model. Tall, thin and pretty. She is much stronger than she looks providing an awesome massage. Perfect amount of pressure and I like a very hard massage. She knows what she's doing hitting all my tight spots and trigger points. She wasn't shy about touching my junk during the massage. I wasn't sure if this was teasing or being thorough but regardless it sure felt good. On the flip she continues her massage. After she's done giving every part of my body a good rub she focuses on Junior.

She taps Junior and asks if I'd like this massaged. I nod then she oils up Junior and begins a variety of strokes also giving my balls plenty of attention. Every once in awhile she would glide her hands over my butt hole but I didn't give any signals so there might be more in this department. When I was on the brink of cumming I'd move her hands away so I could enjoy her technique longer. She asks if I want her to kiss it as in a BJ but I just wanted a handy today.

I believe there's more options with Coco but I forgot to ask. She seemed to know when I was just about to cum, holding her hand over the tip of Junior, then I blast into her hand. She presses her other hand against my chest feeling my heart racing and body shudder as I empty my sacs. Afterwards she gets several tissues and wipes me clean.

Nothing like a good old handy from a cutie but next time I think I'll ask for the full menu.

[Admin2]

Just a quick evening session with the best girl. The shop hit a busy spike towards the second half of the day, so I had the pleasure of being able to catch up a bit with Mimi in one of the front rooms before taking a seat on the couch.

After a short wait, Eva enters, greeting me with her signature smile before bouncing over to sit in my lap, looking as fresh as a person just starting their day. Hair recently colored, so she's back to full blonde. Deep, violet dress with a wide skirt. As much as I enjoy the silhouette of a tight club dress, I love that the extra fabric makes it possible to play the "slide my hands up her legs and feel what's underneath" game. The prize: the feeling of smooth skin on the fingertips all the way up the inner thigh. Today's answer: a completely bare and moistening slit.

A very satisfying DFK session, peeling clothes off of each other, hands moving over her tits and her c*nt. She pours a bit of lube onto her clit and tells me to play. Barely a few moments of fun and she's already soaked. I'm fully excited, like a dog finding the perfect spot to bury a bone.

We play on the couch until we decide we need more room, moving over to the table. I DATY, holding her in place with one hand while giving her something to squeeze with the other. Her body shifts a lot, she tenses, she squeezes. She pulls me up for more DFK, pulls down a pillow from the shelf, and mounts me for 69. Gentle with the BLS, not-so-gentle with the BBBJ. Exceptional.

She slips the cover on, gets on top, and tells me how horny she is before she slides it in. She rides slow, she pounds hard, she grinds deep, she talks some shit. I'm convinced. After she's had her fill, we lay her down. It's my turn, but she doesn't miss the opportunity to speak her piece. She tells me how she wants to be used, I tell her how I want to use her. A unique joy possible when people share a language and a predilection for the coarser stuff. She holds her legs back so I can use her in missionary, unobstructed.

Almost too few minutes later, I have her flip over and lay prone so I can get some real leverage. Ever the power bottom, she shakes her hips and keeps talking nasty as I indulge myself. I start to go harder. Her words devolve into just sounds, her movement begins to slow, and my sense of satisfaction swells. This session has stirred up an unusual sense of competition in me, so I decide to repay her vigorous pounding earlier with some of my own. Her delicate sounds morph into deep guttural noises and, feeling another kind of satisfaction swelling, I go ahead and empty out the last one of November into her.

Great session. I'd be hard pressed to forget this one (even if I hadn't written this review).Whichever one of you guys is close to Mimi tell her this, she either stops fucking paying guys for reviews (this guy has been a member for 9 years and the ONLY reviews he has ever done are for 108) or I will do the same thing to her that I did to 7 spa and tell her to NOT insult my intelligence by saying she isn't.

I'm not bullshitting, the next time I see some shit like this no posts about 108 will be permitted on this forum.

I'm fucking sick of chasing down shills in San Diego, if I have to I will close all Massage threads in this town. I'm serious, you guys need to tell her that I'm fucking done with this shit.

A2

[Reds101]

Whichever one of you guys is close to Mimi tell her this, she either stops fucking paying guys for reviews (this guy has been a member for 9 years and the ONLY reviews he has ever done are for 108) or I will do the same thing to her that I did to 7 spa and tell her to NOT insult my intelligence by saying she isn't.

I'm not bullshitting, the next time I see some shit like this no posts about 108 will be permitted on this forum.

I'm fucking sick of chasing down shills in San Diego, if I have to I will close all Massage threads in this town. I'm serious, you guys need to tell her that I'm fucking done with this shit.

A2Curiousjo since you always have inside info for 108 tell Mimi to chill LOL.

[PoonTangJohnny]

Curiousjo since you always have inside info for 108 tell Mimi to chill LOL.No, it's these "White 108 knights," that need to STFU & fucking chill!

Mimi/108 girls, don't need your "SELF-SERVING," f'ing help!!!

[DMichaels69]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xg02yTx1kXA


No, it's these "White 108 knights," that need to STFU & fucking chill!

Mimi/108 girls, don't need your "SELF-SERVING," f'ing help!!!

[CuriousJo8]

Feel free to do so yourself when you're on site.

I've told her to simply focus on what she is good at: finding and recruiting amazing talent, which in my humble opinion, she is second to none at, and interfacing with the customers who are actually on site whose issues, she can actually handle and take care of.

I have also stressed to not give a fuck on what happens in the online space. She honestly has better and more important things to do.


Curiousjo since you always have inside info for 108 tell Mimi to chill LOL.

[Sir Bishop]

Whichever one of you guys is close to Mimi tell her this, she either stops fucking paying guys for reviews (this guy has been a member for 9 years and the ONLY reviews he has ever done are for 108) or I will do the same thing to her that I did to 7 spa and tell her to NOT insult my intelligence by saying she isn't.
I'm not bullshitting, the next time I see some shit like this no posts about 108 will be permitted on this forum.
I'm fucking sick of chasing down shills in San Diego, if I have to I will close all Massage threads in this town. I'm serious, you guys need to tell her that I'm fucking done with this shit.
A2The shills and white knights seem to have gotten rather annoying in the San Diego Massage section. Personally, they have sent me private PMs complaining about posts in other sections as well. It sounds like A2 is about to nuke an entire forum just for the sake of cutting off the head of a snake. It's a drastic measure that will probably just push those shills into another forum or create another forum for the subject. I'm not an admin and don't know the options of how to punish a member. I'm sure there are varying levels of actions that can be taken to the single member and not the entire forum. Can't we just mark that member's profile as "Shill" like we do "Senior Member"?

Closing all massage threads may not be the answer. Identify them, mark them, mute them, turn their fucking names red. Please don't punish all members when it's a few that fuck things up. Just my two cents.

[SDJaziKing]

No, it's these "White 108 knights," that need to STFU & fucking chill!

Mimi/108 girls, don't need your "SELF-SERVING," f'ing help!!!Funny how this guy is a genuine shill fuck for VIP and demanding people to shut the fuck up LOL. Hilarious.

[DRaj123]

The shills and white knights seem to have gotten rather annoying in the San Diego Massage section. Personally, they have sent me private PMs complaining about posts in other sections as well. It sounds like A2 is about to nuke an entire forum just for the sake of cutting off the head of a snake. It's a drastic measure that will probably just push those shills into another forum or create another forum for the subject. I'm not an admin and don't know the options of how to punish a member. I'm sure there are varying levels of actions that can be taken to the single member and not the entire forum. Can't we just mark that member's profile as "Shill" like we do "Senior Member"?

Closing all massage threads may not be the answer. Identify them, mark them, mute them, turn their fucking names red. Please don't punish all members when it's a few that fuck things up. Just my two cents.Honestly it looks like massage forum has been taken over by 108 guys.

[GilfLover]

The shills and white knights seem to have gotten rather annoying in the San Diego Massage section. Personally, they have sent me private PMs complaining about posts in other sections as well. It sounds like A2 is about to nuke an entire forum just for the sake of cutting off the head of a snake. It's a drastic measure that will probably just push those shills into another forum or create another forum for the subject. I'm not an admin and don't know the options of how to punish a member. I'm sure there are varying levels of actions that can be taken to the single member and not the entire forum. Can't we just mark that member's profile as "Shill" like we do "Senior Member"?

Closing all massage threads may not be the answer. Identify them, mark them, mute them, turn their fucking names red. Please don't punish all members when it's a few that fuck things up. Just my two cents.I too find it amusing when Admin changes description to "Shill for *blank".

[Sudcciv]

Whichever one of you guys is close to Mimi tell her this, she either stops fucking paying guys for reviews (this guy has been a member for 9 years and the ONLY reviews he has ever done are for 108) or I will do the same thing to her that I did to 7 spa and tell her to NOT insult my intelligence by saying she isn't.

I'm not bullshitting, the next time I see some shit like this no posts about 108 will be permitted on this forum.

I'm fucking sick of chasing down shills in San Diego, if I have to I will close all Massage threads in this town. I'm serious, you guys need to tell her that I'm fucking done with this shit.

A2Just a suggestion: Since there are posts on here dating back to the 2000's, you think maybe ELIMINATING ALL ADS OLDER THEN 90 DAYS would "clear out" the "shills", "dead posts", "non-existent providers", etc. This board, and its "interneationsexguiide. Nl" must be using countless "GB's" to maintain so much "dead" information. I respectfully suggest a full-blown "vaporization" of every ad posted PRIOR TO 01/01/2023, ON: 01/01/2023. See what "threads" re-appear" and what "local entities" emerge. Dead information over the last 22 years does not do anyone any favors, so why have it?

[Admin2]

Just a suggestion: Since there are posts on here dating back to the 2000's, you think maybe ELIMINATING ALL ADS OLDER THEN 90 DAYS would "clear out" the "shills", "dead posts", "non-existent providers", etc. This board, and its "interneationsexguiide. Nl" must be using countless "GB's" to maintain so much "dead" information. I respectfully suggest a full-blown "vaporization" of every ad posted PRIOR TO 01/01/2023, ON: 01/01/2023. See what "threads" re-appear" and what "local entities" emerge. Dead information over the last 22 years does not do anyone any favors, so why have it?We eliminated all ads 4 years ago when Fosta / Sesta got signed.

The pictures on the forum take up way more gigs than the reports, text doesn't take space. The entire Library of Congress would be less than 50 terabytes less the pictures. You could put everything we store including photos on a thumb drive and since reports are our bread and butter why not save them all.

What we need to do is archive them maybe.

Thanks for the suggestion though.

[Admin2]

The shills and white knights seem to have gotten rather annoying in the San Diego Massage section. Personally, they have sent me private PMs complaining about posts in other sections as well. It sounds like A2 is about to nuke an entire forum just for the sake of cutting off the head of a snake. It's a drastic measure that will probably just push those shills into another forum or create another forum for the subject. I'm not an admin and don't know the options of how to punish a member. I'm sure there are varying levels of actions that can be taken to the single member and not the entire forum. Can't we just mark that member's profile as "Shill" like we do "Senior Member"?

Closing all massage threads may not be the answer. Identify them, mark them, mute them, turn their fucking names red. Please don't punish all members when it's a few that fuck things up. Just my two cents.I mark them as shills all the time and ban their accounts. The issue here is this lady at 108 is twisting seniors to write bullshit over the top reviews. I hate banning seniors but it's going to start happening.

Nuking the forum for 6 months is the last resort but I've done it before and will do it again.

A2.

[DesertFun]

Art, and anyone else who has used GoodRx.

I followed the basic setup instructions for the app, got the price and location for pickup etc. , but I'm missing finding the route for the text messaging with the "prescriber", where do I find that part? I got the discount codes etc, called the pharmacy to find out how it worked on their end but they are waiting for the prescription to come in. (30) 20 mg Tadalafil for $9. 83 with the discounts etc. Much better than my Canadian pharmacy and faster too if I can figure out how to get the "prescription" to the pharmacy, thanks for filling in the blanks everyone.


If you want cheap Sildenafil the best way to get it IMO is to download the GoodRx app and sign up. It's 19 dollars to do a text consultation with a doctor to get a prescription. Then you can pick it up at your local pharmacy. I get 30 x 50 mg pills for $12.86 and just pick them up at my local CVS. The whole process takes about 30 minutes and you can grab your script about an hour after.

[SkankHuntt42]

Art, and anyone else who has used GoodRx.

I followed the basic setup instructions for the app, got the price and location for pickup etc. , but I'm missing finding the route for the text messaging with the "prescriber", where do I find that part? I got the discount codes etc, called the pharmacy to find out how it worked on their end but they are waiting for the prescription to come in. (30) 20 mg Tadalafil for $9. 83 with the discounts etc. Much better than my Canadian pharmacy and faster too if I can figure out how to get the "prescription" to the pharmacy, thanks for filling in the blanks everyone.Alright so GoodRX is a little confusing in that regard. GoodRx is just a discount program for medications. If you don't have insurance you can use them for free to get your medications on discounted prices. They also offer another service for telehealth. That's completely separate and not free. If you download the app, go to the tab on the bottom that says, "care" and press "start a visit" it should cost 25 or 30 I believe. They'll have you go through a questionnaire and what not and ask what symptoms you're having just follow the steps and then they'll connect you with a doctor to receive your prescription. After they prescribe it to you pick out the pharmacy you want to use and let the doctor know to send it there. Call the pharmacy about 15-20 minutes after to confirm they received it and you should be good to go. Side note, GoodRx has a subscription program called GoodRX gold. It's 9. 99 a month and gives you more discounts from more stores for your prescriptions. It may or may not be worth it for you but before signing up for it go to the prices you see for the medication you want and check if theirs discounts that say "gold" next to them. If any of them are more then 9. 99 cheaper then the others then it's worth signing up for. If the pharmacy you were picking the medication up from doesn't say "gold" next to it then don't sign up because you won't be using the gold discount regardless.

[DesertFun]

Thank you SKH42!

I knew there was something that I had to be missing and it wasn't readily apparent how to make it all work, thanks for the explanation. I saw something that gave a phone # but it wasn't telling you that this was where you could get the prescription etc. I appreciate your help. Hopefully this makes it easier for the other guys who go to use it too.


Alright so GoodRX is a little confusing in that regard. GoodRx is just a discount program for medications. If you don't have insurance you can use them for free to get your medications on discounted prices. They also offer another service for telehealth. That's completely separate and not free. If you download the app, go to the tab on the bottom that says, "care" and press "start a visit" it should cost 25 or 30 I believe.

[SkankHuntt42]

Thank you SKH42!

I knew there was something that I had to be missing and it wasn't readily apparent how to make it all work, thanks for the explanation. I saw something that gave a phone # but it wasn't telling you that this was where you could get the prescription etc. I appreciate your help. Hopefully this makes it easier for the other guys who go to use it too.I got you, feel free to DM me if you have any other questions.

[SkankHuntt42]

I just moved to SD about 5-6 months ago from OC. What do why'all like to eat down here (besides pussy) LOL I live in Kearny Mesa so I'm pretty close to Convoy. Any Asian food recommendations? Ramen? Tacos? Etc. Also is there any fire food open after 10?! Seems like San Diego shuts down at 10 can barely even find taco trucks. Interested to learn and try what you degenerates eat.

[DesertFun]

SKH42,

There's a wealth of Asian food places on Convoy, my fav is a Korean BBQ place Jeong Won. There's a great sports bar at Bullpen Bar and Grill next to to the all nude Cheetahs and another FS massage shop. There's also a very good Ramen place in the same shopping center between Bullpen and the Wood Shoppe. If you're looking for Mexican you have to get a little out of the KM area, my take out shop is JV's on Morena, if I want a sit down restaurant with waiters etc then Guadalajara Grill down in Old Town is pretty good as is La Pinata just a block away. Late night eating is either bar foods or you have to go to the beach area for Saska's or downtown and deal with all of that headache.


I just moved to SD about 5-6 months ago from OC. What do why'all like to eat down here (besides pussy) LOL I live in Kearny Mesa so I'm pretty close to Convoy. Any Asian food recommendations? Ramen? Tacos? Etc. Also is there any fire food open after 10?! Seems like San Diego shuts down at 10 can barely even find taco trucks. Interested to learn and try what you degenerates eat.

[NudeBeachPerv]

I just moved to SD about 5-6 months ago from OC. What do why'all like to eat down here (besides pussy) LOL I live in Kearny Mesa so I'm pretty close to Convoy. Any Asian food recommendations? Ramen? Tacos? Etc. Also is there any fire food open after 10?! Seems like San Diego shuts down at 10 can barely even find taco trucks. Interested to learn and try what you degenerates eat.There's a decent Mexican Food place next to the legendary Pine Spa. (Haven't ben but heard tons about it.).

You can also find tons of Ramen and Korean BBQ on Convoy. Usually stuff will be open closer to midnight on the weekends. And I think there are a couple of 24 hr places in Hillcrest, though I'm not really sure Covid seems to have reduced operating hours for most places.

[Reds101]

I just moved to SD about 5-6 months ago from OC. What do why'all like to eat down here (besides pussy) LOL I live in Kearny Mesa so I'm pretty close to Convoy. Any Asian food recommendations? Ramen? Tacos? Etc. Also is there any fire food open after 10?! Seems like San Diego shuts down at 10 can barely even find taco trucks. Interested to learn and try what you degenerates eat.Some of my go-to's in the area since I live nearby as well. Nothing too fancy with not too much of a line because I work from home and go to these places for takeout often.

I also typically get them after the gym so higher protein places.

Carne asada nachos from Lolita's on Clairemont mesa (or California burrito) - their red salsa is great.

Bulgogi rice plate from H mart food court "Bann Cuisine".

Chick fil a on balboa.

Poke bowls from poke one and half on armour st.

In-and-out across the street from poke.

Tigris Mediterranean grill on Clairemont mesa.

Havana grill on Clairemont mesa (Cubano sandwiches).

If I feel like I want to save a little money, I go to the Costco on convoy to get a chicken bake and slice of pizza. This one normally doesn't check if you have a Costco card for the food area.

If I have more time, I like to go to raising canes in Santee (it's more miles than the one in Mira Mesa but way less traffic so only takes 10-15 min to get there from convoy area).

For tacos I really like the adobada tacos from "tacos el g" in national city. I think they have two locations but one of them is less busy than the other.

Bronx pizza is a few minutes down the 163 and has great NY style pizza by the slice. Cash only though.

[Usgyinyang]

I just moved to SD about 5-6 months ago from OC. What do why'all like to eat down here (besides pussy) LOL I live in Kearny Mesa so I'm pretty close to Convoy. Any Asian food recommendations? Ramen? Tacos? Etc. Also is there any fire food open after 10?! Seems like San Diego shuts down at 10 can barely even find taco trucks. Interested to learn and try what you degenerates eat.Theres a few Korean places open til 1/2 if you stay up late regularly. For mexican you'd probably find yourself at the Vallarta's on Genesee near Balboa. If you can stomach all the drunk / high UCSD students. Honestly if you want good mexican food you're going to want to drive a little ways south.

Otherwise yes, most of the food scene shuts down by 10 especially in that area.

For Ramen my favorite is still the Santouka inside the Mitsuwa. Or Raki Raki if you want something a little more artisanal.

[Lascivious]

Sorry to beat a very dead horse, but this is the stupid shit thread after all.

Seeing some of the VIP girls coming through again had me thinking. Now that it's all said and done, wouldn't it be impossible to be a shill for VIP? What ever hyperbolic shit a shill could say about them, couldn't top the reality of those girls, right? I was very skeptical at first.

Mina leveraged this board to let me know through a PM that I was welcome as a senior member to come see them and what number to call. I ended up walking in anyway before I saw it. I might have been too sketched out before I knew her.

The way they their ad said to come see a line-up and they actually gave it to you when you showed up. The way they all immediately started to grope and kiss you as soon as you walked in. 3 and 4 somes. Mostly no extra charge. Too bad they can't all be that way. I'm sure most spas will open up once you become a regular.

Was it their over the top behavior that brought them down or was it other jealous spas?

[RolfTorren]

I had a similar experience to yours. I was enviously eyeing what seemed to be TGTBT reports of the fuck fests going down at VIP. Then there was the raid over there and I determined never to set foot in the place. But then NLBC opened up and Mina reached out to me and suggested I try that location. The sessions there were amazing, and with more options offering at VIP I threw caution to the wind and became a frequent visitor. And it was amazing. Basically no upsell for services that would have cost two or three times as much at either AAs or AMPs, if you could ever find it elsewhere. And that was the problem I think. Despite this ostensibly being a free market economy, there are unspoken rules about pricing and services. VIP effectively upended the comfortable status quo and they paid a price for it by being harassed in all sorts of ways. The business model didn't count on the unscrupulous behavior of rivals. Things have died down. Every so often there's an attempt to cast dispersions on Unique but nothing too serious. It bears monitoring, however, given the rumors that some of the VIP alumni may visit from time to time this year.

In short VIP foundered because they were sabotaged and because they offered something amazing that deeply threatened other operations in town.


Sorry to beat a very dead horse, but this is the stupid shit thread after all.

Seeing some of the VIP girls coming through again had me thinking. Now that it's all said and done, wouldn't it be impossible to be a shill for VIP? What ever hyperbolic shit a shill could say about them, couldn't top the reality of those girls, right? I was very skeptical at first.

Mina leveraged this board to let me know through a PM that I was welcome as a senior member to come see them and what number to call. I ended up walking in anyway before I saw it. I might have been too sketched out before I knew her.

The way they their ad said to come see a line-up and they actually gave it to you when you showed up. The way they all immediately started to grope and kiss you as soon as you walked in. 3 and 4 somes. Mostly no extra charge. Too bad they can't all be that way. I'm sure most spas will open up once you become a regular.

Was it their over the top behavior that brought them down or was it other jealous spas?

[GilfLover]

Its a shame, I feel like the VIP / NLBC "boom" exposed how effective a couple reviews can be for a spa and it is being taken advantage of by other owners by offering house fee discounts for positive detailed reviews.And it's so blatant. Too bad their posts can't be redirected to Stupid Shit forum.

[Lascivious]

Its a shame, I feel like the VIP / NLBC "boom" exposed how effective a couple reviews can be for a spa and it is being taken advantage of by other owners by offering house fee discounts for positive detailed reviews.I don't want to be largely argumentative, this is the stupid shit thread though.

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your post-but are you saying the VIP / NLBC boom was due to a couple of positive reviews? At the time their reviews did seem to be way over the top. Mina worked this board like a rib, directly PMing senior members etc. But in hindsight, it isn't hypothetical or speculative, Mina ushered in an absolute paradigm shift to the local scene.

When she gave me a free threesome and I mentioned giving her an extra tip she did say, just give me a good review. But the old cliche is, it ain't bragin' if it's true. It's not like I had to write a positive review before she gave me the extra VIP treatment. That's just sheer service excellence, earning her seemingly hyperbolic praise.

If other shops give discounts for positive reviews, they'll quickly be weeded out if they don't deliver the goods, right?

I've read that 108 has been pulling the shit you're talking about. I don't get out nearly as much as many of you but I've had nothing but great sessions at 108 and wouldn't bullshit this board. But if they want to PM me I'd entertain a discount. <JK .

I'm just drunk posting, mourning the Eagles blow out win. Don't mind me.

[Reds101]

I don't want to be largely argumentative, this is the stupid shit thread though.

Forgive me if I'm misunderstanding your post-but are you saying the VIP / NLBC boom was due to a couple of positive reviews? At the time their reviews did seem to be way over the top. Mina worked this board like a rib, directly PMing senior members etc. But in hindsight, it isn't hypothetical or speculative, Mina ushered in an absolute paradigm shift to the local scene.

When she gave me a free threesome and I mentioned giving her an extra tip she did say, just give me a good review. But the old cliche is, it ain't bragin' if it's true. It's not like I had to write a positive review before she gave me the extra VIP treatment. That's just sheer service excellence, earning her seemingly hyperbolic praise.

If other shops give discounts for positive reviews, they'll quickly be weeded out if they don't deliver the goods, right?

I've read that 108 has been pulling the shit you're talking about. I don't get out nearly as much as many of you but I've had nothing but great sessions at 108 and wouldn't bullshit this board. But if they want to PM me I'd entertain a discount.Oh no not at all and definitely easy to misunderstand re-reading my post. I meant that with how great VIP / NLBC was compared to other spas, it shook things up and made these forums very popular just in general and brought in a lot of new users. Not always a bad thing but it's not common to see tons of new users in such a short period of time but I don't blame them. The VIP days were insane and mina is probably one of my atfs in my many years of mongering.

[Usgyinyang]

Not necessarily, the biggest factor would be the gap between what the review says and what is offered. In the case of VIP, there is no argument against the fact that the ad-hoc free FFM upgrades happened. And that was a primary driver for the VIP craze. VIP was ACTUALLY disrupting the market. In the case of 108, nothing is being offered that is impossible to find elsewhere but the shills try to make it sound like every girl there is a 10/10 sex machine. Its very very easy to hide behind the ol "YMMV" whenever a review turns out to be massively over embelished. "oh you must have got her on a bad day" "oh she must have just liked me more" "maybe she was tired" anytime a dissenting opinion is offered.

In reality, the biggest advantage 108 gets out of drafting shills isn't even the additional traffic they get from one-off visitors who read through all the posts. For them its the ability to get repeat business out of their shills.


I don't want to be largely argumentative, this is the stupid shit thread though.


If other shops give discounts for positive reviews, they'll quickly be weeded out if they don't deliver the goods, right?

I've read that 108 has been pulling the shit you're talking about. I don't get out nearly as much as many of you but I've had nothing but great sessions at 108 and wouldn't bullshit this board. But if they want to PM me I'd entertain a discount. <JK .

[Reds101]

Not necessarily, the biggest factor would be the gap between what the review says and what is offered. In the case of VIP, there is no argument against the fact that the ad-hoc free FFM upgrades happened. And that was a primary driver for the VIP craze. VIP was ACTUALLY disrupting the market. In the case of 108, nothing is being offered that is impossible to find elsewhere but the shills try to make it sound like every girl there is a 10/10 sex machine. Its very very easy to hide behind the ol "YMMV" whenever a review turns out to be massively over embelished. "oh you must have got her on a bad day" "oh she must have just liked me more" "maybe she was tired" anytime a dissenting opinion is offered.

In reality, the biggest advantage 108 gets out of drafting shills isn't even the additional traffic they get from one-off visitors who read through all the posts. For them its the ability to get repeat business out of their shills.You said it much clearer than I did, thanks!

[Lascivious]

Random crap.

I've got to admit that I drew a bit of a clunker for my first VIP session. She was smoking hot but not the best service. Complaining about too many positions and actually bit my cock a bit when I gently pushed it deep. Probably just having an off day. Still pretty good. I documented that at the time. Subsequently, my sessions were superlative.

Today at UFS I got groped with a hand down my pants on my ass and my cock cranked practically half way to completion. Wouldn't tell me her name. But I didn't want a session with her. Not bad but I'd rather save my cash for someone better.

A while back I went to 108 because someone said that a certain girl could take it all the way down. I've always wanted that and never quite got it. She did go at it hard. On her back with her head hanging off the table. She was getting close and I gently pushed it, to try to really get it all the way into her throat. She took it pretty well but when she spit out my cum, she showed me that I made her bleed. I felt insanely terrible and told her how sorry I was. She actually took it well and was really sweet. Seemed weird.

Has anyone seen Peach at 108? She's like an anime character come to life.

Seems like 108 has the best girls lately.

[Stl Danish]

In the case of 108, nothing is being offered that is impossible to find elsewhere but the shills try to make it sound like every girl there is a 10/10 sex machine. 100% this. It's not that it's a bad place. It isn't. But the non-stop cheerleading is beyond old. I posted a review awhile back about a 108 experience with one of the girls that people just gush about incessantly and my review was basically: "She was good, but not THAT good" and at least a couple of the usual suspects jumped right in "defending her honor. " Mercifully, I didn't get any PMs or anything about it.

I miss the days when there were a variety of places talked about, with more focus on the HJ places. Love to hear about the FS places too, but right now the balance is way off. A certain other site we are all familiar with that operates on a subscription model to read reviews is just 100% shilling now. Completely worthless. So it's not just here. Seems like the owners of parlors are really enlisting shill services to push their brand, across the board.

[JulianK]

100% this. It's not that it's a bad place. It isn't. But the non-stop cheerleading is beyond old. I posted a review awhile back about a 108 experience with one of the girls that people just gush about incessantly and my review was basically: "She was good, but not THAT good" and at least a couple of the usual suspects jumped right in "defending her honor. " Mercifully, I didn't get any PMs or anything about it.

I miss the days when there were a variety of places talked about, with more focus on the HJ places. Love to hear about the FS places too, but right now the balance is way off. A certain other site we are all familiar with that operates on a subscription model to read reviews is just 100% shilling now. Completely worthless. So it's not just here. Seems like the owners of parlors are really enlisting shill services to push their brand, across the board.It would be good to have one section for FS and another for HJ only. It would save a little reading time for me.

[Hector58]

It would be good to have one section for FS and another for HJ only.
We already have that. Check out the FS Spas in San Diego thread in the lower section.

[RolfTorren]

So here's a question. In the world of AMPs in particular we meet many women in that expansive age group from mid-30's to mid-50's. We see them labeled as milfs and gilfs. But what do we call them if I take one look and say to myself "not in a million years"? Miwlfs and Giwlfs? (w=wouldn't). Just ruminating here.

[DesertFun]

Rolf,

To me they would just be NFWIFT's, aka no fucking way would I fuck that!


But what do we call them if I take one look and say to myself "not in a million years"? Miwlfs and Giwlfs? (w=wouldn't). Just ruminating here.

[Lascivious]

I went to 108 a while back. When I pulled up, I noticed that there was a guy sitting in his truck out front waiting. Then another guy pulled up and sat there for a bit. I was thinking dang, this place is blowing up. The church, or whatever next door was having something going on out front, with people milling about. Awkward.

I was thinking about waiting for the first and / or second guy to make their move, give them minute, then go in. Both of them ended up going next door and I decided to slip in.

I've been wondering if they were going to be a problem for 108. They've got to know that something weird is going on. I've heard other legitimate businesses adjacent to spas complaining about them. Especially since they are religious types right next door. They might think they've got competition. Hearing us yelling, oh gawd, oh gawd. Jesus, Jesus I'm coming.

I know that that was dumb but kind of fits in the stupid shit thread.

Edit: It's actually even more stupid because I think someone already made that pathetic excuse for a joke. FTW.

[JulianK]

We already have that. Check out the FS Spas in San Diego thread in the lower section.I've seen it, but there are 278 posts in that thread vs 22,000 in the Massage Parlor Reports thread.

[Tub And Rug]

We already have that. Check out the FS Spas in San Diego thread in the lower section.There's not a forum that talks about HJ places only.

[RChangDatyKing]

So here's a question. In the world of AMPs in particular we meet many women in that expansive age group from mid-30's to mid-50's. We see them labeled as milfs and gilfs. But what do we call them if I take one look and say to myself "not in a million years"? Miwlfs and Giwlfs? (w=wouldn't). Just ruminating here.


Rolf,

To me they would just be NFWIFT's, aka no fucking way would I fuck that!I agree with DFun! There is NFWIFT! I hope it's a matter of taste because I go check out some of these nonFS spots that people have reviewed and 8 out of 10 times I had to walk out. I know some of the girls I like or see some guys may say they are too skinny, their butt or boobs are too big, etc. So I'm thinking it's our different tastes.

I'm back from my short trips and ready to do some more windows shopping. I did some a few weeks ago that I will post about later, just catching up with some of my favorite independents for the time being.

Happy hobbying guys!

[MaximusKahn]

I enjoy guys telling us about a provider who gives them a Great Rim Job, offers Bare Back Full Service with CIP, or gets a Bare Back Blow Job with CIM action, and then gets all excited posting how much they enjoy all the Deep French Kissing, and the DATY they do with the same provider.

It occurs to me that if they get a BB CIM, or BB CIP, and an exciting Rim Job then she offers these pleasures to her other customers as well. Just knowing some guy probably released his load in her face or pussy minutes ago is enough keep me focused on just getting a HJ, head, or sex.

We all have our thing, but I can't enjoy DFK or DATY with providers who do BBBJCIM, or BBFSCIP, and Rim Jobs to numerous customers daily.

I don't know if I should share this, but I will because it's fair to let you know. Some girls do laugh at guys who DATY them knowing the last customer just released all his joy in her bare back, and know part of what you might be tasting are his left overs. They will freely straddle your face so you have an open invitation to dine out while they are secretly laughing as you do. Or think it's funny how many guys will love to DFK them right after they took their tongue out of some other guy's ass or finished tasting his release. I've been told by a few that the way they see it is, if they have to taste it and you want to Fk them, then you should too. Why do you think some greet you with DFK right away? They are letting you have a taste of the last guy, and laughing about how much you're enjoying it.

This is not a slam to anyone if DFK and DATY are your chosen pleasures, I just think it's important I share some of the truths I know about how some women see it. But don't' worry this is just one man's opinion and there is still plenty of participating providers for you, besides, if you don't care, then you don't care.

I just know too much, and from my perspective, I don't want to be tasting some other guys action, so I avoid DFK, and DATY with any provider who performs Rim Jobs, BBBFCIM, BBFSCIP, or Bare Back anything to her other customers. I'm not saying DFK and DATY are not great, we all know they are, but I can tell you why I'm very selective who I do it with.

[NudeBeachPerv]

I don't know if I should share this, but I will because it's fair to let you know. Some girls do laugh at guys who DATY them knowing the last customer just released all his joy in her bare back, and know part of what you might be tasting are his left overs. They will freely straddle your face so you have an open invitation to dine out while they are secretly laughing as you do. Or think it's funny how many guys will love to DFK them right after they took their tongue out of some other guy's ass or finished tasting his release. I've been told by a few that the way they see it is, if they have to taste it and you want to Fk them, then you should too. Why do you think some greet you with DFK right away? They are letting you have a taste of the last guy, and laughing about how much you're enjoying it.

Maximus, I know I shared a few Thad's stories with you but perhaps this is my best (or worst depending on your viewpoint.) A few years back on a beautiful summer evening, I saw a stunning woman with her husband at the bar. I figured they would most likely sequester themselves in the couples area. Maybe an hour later, I was wandering off the beaten path so to speak and walked into one of the side trailers where the AC was on full blast. This same woman and her husband were lying on a bed. He asked if I would like to play. Boy, would I ever. He said there was only one thing, she was allergic to condoms but they tested regularly, so if I was ok with bare it was all good. The little head overtook the big head and I agreed to their terms. She was super fun and really got into it with moaning and thrust her hips as I was entering her. Still, I was a little nervous and after 8 minutes or so, I hadn't came and was going soft. I finished up and thanked them both. The husband asked if I came and I told him that I was a bit nervous and didn't. He looked a little disappointed but said it was ok.

Another guy who had wandered in agreed to their terms and began playing. He came immensely. The next thing shocked both the new guy and myself. The husband began performing oral on his wife. Licking up every last drop. He seemed to love this and so did she. IDK if the guy is gay or a cuck but he did let me play with his wife so he is all good with me. I later saw both of them in the lockers gathering their things. She looked even better under the bright lights. They were both friendly and I wished them a safe trip home.

[MaximusKahn]

Hi NBP, the post wasn't for those who like to taste other guys joy, or for those who don't care one way or the other. It was more for the guys who didn't give it much thought and possible really don't want to be "clean up. ".

I know there are many people with wild kinks and perversions out there, and few surprise me anymore, but I have to admit even being open to a lot of crazy sexual things, some things still turn me off. In most cases, I'm pretty much a to each their own, and a live and let live guy.

Since you brought up THADs I'll jump into a THADs story.

Quite a while ago, me and two other guys got invited to join a couple for some fun. She started sitting on bed taking turns blowing or playing with our cocks as her boyfriend just watched on the side lines. Out of the blue one guy orders me to eat her pussy, and I said "no!" She immediately said you don't want to eat my pussy? I said yes I do but I don't take orders from him, but I'll take orders from you, and she said "eat my pussy" so I went down on her as she lied back with legs wide open. Of course in such a situation I have no idea what she may have done with that pussy before we entered this room, but I took the risk it was clean. Fortunately, it passed all the obvious tests, looks, smell, wetness, and taste. After some moaning and convulsing, she wanted to be fucked.

So we all took turns fucking her with condoms on, and getting blowjobs and some stroking here and there, with her BF watching and tugging away. After a while she stopped the last guy fucking her and said I want my boyfriend to fuck me now, and he dutifully got off her and let her bf mount her with his already hard cock that he kept hard as he watched us. He fucked her like he stole her for a while, with us feeling her up, or sticking our cocks in her mouth or hand still somewhat engaged in the action.

Then out of the blue she says to us three guys, I want my boyfriend to cum in me, who's going to eat it out? The silence from the three of us was funny as hell. None of us was up for that, but obviously to them that was a hot thing to do. I remember her being shocked and then realizing she couldn't command any of us to do it, as she said, nobody will eat me out? Her boyfriend started to unload as I said thank you and left the room. I have no idea if either of the other two guys ate her out after her bf unloaded, but I knew that part wasn't for me. I was glad I ate her before he filled her up instead of meeting them after. I appreciated be a part of the action, but I do have my limits regardless of what they want to do. It's all a gamble when it comes to sex games.

Everyone has their own way to enjoy their kinks and perversions, me included, I guess I may not be the typical monger in more ways than one. I intend no offense to anyone.


Maximus, I know I shared a few Thad's stories with you but perhaps this is my best (or worst depending on your viewpoint.) A few years back on a beautiful summer evening, I saw a stunning woman with her husband at the bar. I figured they would most likely sequester themselves in the couples area. Maybe an hour later, I was wandering off the beaten path so to speak and walked into one of the side trailers where the AC was on full blast. This same woman and her husband were lying on a bed. He asked if I would like to play. Boy, would I ever. He said there was only one thing, she was allergic to condoms but they tested regularly, so if I was ok with bare it was all good. The little head overtook the big head and I agreed to their terms. She was super fun and really got into it with moaning and thrust her hips as I was entering her. Still, I was a little nervous and after 8 minutes or so, I hadn't came and was going soft. I finished up and thanked them both. The husband asked if I came and I told him that I was a bit nervous and didn't. He looked a little disappointed but said it was ok.

Another guy who had wandered in agreed to their terms and began playing. He came immensely. The next thing shocked both the new guy and myself. The husband began performing oral on his wife. Licking up every last drop. He seemed to love this and so did she. IDK if the guy is gay or a cuck but he did let me play with his wife so he is all good with me. I later saw both of them in the lockers gathering their things. She looked even better under the bright lights. They were both friendly and I wished them a safe trip home.

[NudeBeachPerv]

Since you brought up THADs I'll jump into a THADs story.
Maximus,

That's a great story! I have noticed that some women seem to think consent is a 1 way street where they make the rules and the guys blindly follow. Probably a bad influence is those horrible "dommes" from that House of Black crap palace.

Here is kind of a silly story:

I was flirting with a woman at the bar. Her hubby had rounded up two guys. They began heading to the open play room behind the pool. (I think this was before they had the BDSM Cross.) I followed hoping I might get an invite. They were all on the bed. IDK the proper term, double penetration, triple penetration. I am sure there is some kind of term but the best can come up with was "love sandwich" as the man and his wife were all intertwined with the two guys.

I was a respectable distance watching the action unfold. One of the so-called "Bulls" walked in and instead of politely observing, he gave me a little shove and a dirty look as if to say "Get out of here little guy. " He was right at the edge of the bed stroking himself and playing with his nipple (yeah, he ain't quite right in the head.) The husband grabbed him by the shoulder as if to say "Get on the bed. " As he grabbed his shoulder, it almost looked as if his hand slipped because it was now on the "Bull's" wiener. The "bull" had a look of alarm. And if it may have appeared to be mistake on the husbands part, it certainly wasn't as he reached up again and began stroking the "bull's" schlong. His look of alarm went to sheer terror. I guess he experienced "bi-sexual" night before Thad's had bi-sexual night. But I am glad he stepped on the landmine instead of me. I guess that was the kindest shove I got in my life, haha. Later that night, Mr. Bull was sitting in the hot tub looking really sad.

I don't have any hate towards bi or gay people. I did think it was funny that one pushy guy got his though.

[Member #6293]

I enjoy guys telling us about a provider who gives them a Great Rim Job, offers Bare Back Full Service with CIP, or gets a Bare Back Blow Job with CIM action, and then gets all excited posting how much they enjoy all the Deep French Kissing, and the DATY they do with the same provider.

It occurs to me that if they get a BB CIM, or BB CIP, and an exciting Rim Job then she offers these pleasures to her other customers as well. Just knowing some guy probably released his load in her face or pussy minutes ago is enough keep me focused on just getting a HJ, head, or sex.

We all have our thing, but I can't enjoy DFK or DATY with providers who do BBBJCIM, or BBFSCIP, and Rim Jobs to numerous customers daily.

I don't know if I should share this, but I will because it's fair to let you know. Some girls do laugh at guys who DATY them knowing the last customer just released all his joy in her bare back, and know part of what you might be tasting are his left overs. They will freely straddle your face so you have an open invitation to dine out while they are secretly laughing as you do. Or think it's funny how many guys will love to DFK them right after they took their tongue out of some other guy's ass or finished tasting his release. I've been told by a few that the way they see it is, if they have to taste it and you want to Fk them, then you should too. Why do you think some greet you with DFK right away? They are letting you have a taste of the last guy, and laughing about how much you're enjoying it.

This is not a slam to anyone if DFK and DATY are your chosen pleasures, I just think it's important I share some of the truths I know about how some women see it. But don't' worry this is just one man's opinion and there is still plenty of participating providers for you, besides, if you don't care, then you don't care.

I just know too much, and from my perspective, I don't want to be tasting some other guys action, so I avoid DFK, and DATY with any provider who performs Rim Jobs, BBBFCIM, BBFSCIP, or Bare Back anything to her other customers. I'm not saying DFK and DATY are not great, we all know they are, but I can tell you why I'm very selective who I do it with.LOL this thought has crossed my mind with many providers I've CIM or CIP and also DFK'd and even DATY'd. That's why now if I'm seeing one that does GFE and lets me CIM I always find out what time they start their day and do my best to be the first one at the door. That way I can also laugh inside at the next guy. I remember when I was leaving after visiting Fiji a few weeks ago she mentioned she forgot her face was still sticky from all my cum and we had a laugh about it. She did wash it though.

[Sudcciv]

At least she had a real pussy to be eaten! Given that Thad's is now getting over-run with gender-jumpers (the men who "think" they are women, and dress as such! It's nice to see you found an "accommodating" Real woman! They are becoming few and far between at Thad's. There are still the obscenely OBSESE women (who have no business being naked! And those only there for the black guys. Makes for very "slim pickings" for single males to get pleasured by (and give pleasure to!


Hi NBP, the post wasn't for those who like to taste other guys joy, or for those who don't care one way or the other. It was more for the guys who didn't give it much thought and possible really don't want to be "clean up. ".

I know there are many people with wild kinks and perversions out there, and few surprise me anymore, but I have to admit even being open to a lot of crazy sexual things, some things still turn me off. In most cases, I'm pretty much a to each their own, and a live and let live guy.

Since you brought up THADs I'll jump into a THADs story.

Quite a while ago, me and two other guys got invited to join a couple for some fun. She started sitting on bed taking turns blowing or playing with our cocks as her boyfriend just watched on the side lines. Out of the blue one guy orders me to eat her pussy, and I said "no!" She immediately said you don't want to eat my pussy? I said yes I do but I don't take orders from him, but I'll take orders from you, and she said "eat my pussy" so I went down on her as she lied back with legs wide open. Of course in such a situation I have no idea what she may have done with that pussy before we entered this room, but I took the risk it was clean. Fortunately, it passed all the obvious tests, looks, smell, wetness, and taste. After some moaning and convulsing, she wanted to be fucked.

[NudeBeachPerv]

At least she had a real pussy to be eaten! Given that Thad's is now getting over-run with gender-jumpers (the men who "think" they are women, and dress as such! It's nice to see you found an "accommodating" Real woman! They are becoming few and far between at Thad's. There are still the obscenely OBSESE women (who have no business being naked! And those only there for the black guys. Makes for very "slim pickings" for single males to get pleasured by (and give pleasure to!The evening started off okay. I was hanging out by the bar and a "lady" walked by. One of the guys at the bar said, "Is that I dude?

I answered that I didn't think so. "She" had kind of meaty arms and shoulders but nothing that screamed "man. " We are in San Diego so a woman could get arms and shoulders like that if she did a lot of swimming or surfing. I then passed by "her" and said "Hello" to which "she" replied with a warm smile. At this point I though "she" was a she.

Then I saw "her" sit down. Guys, if you want to be well liked by the ladies in your life, tell 'them that you know that are real ladies because their thighs flare out when they sit down. On second thought don't do that. Well, when "she" sat down, "her" thighs didn't flare out but "her" belly did. Guys tend to put the extra weight on their bellies and ladies on their thighs.

As the night progressed, "she" did a train at the side room where there used to be chairs and people would congregate to smoke and tell stories. I was standing outside with the guy from the bar watching this as if watching a car wreck (or maybe train wreck, haha) in slow motion. One of the guys who just finished joined us. He was a young guy, maybe 19 or so. The guy from the bar told him, "You just got with a dude. " He had a look of absolute horror on his face. I felt really awful for the guy, he might be traumatized for life. I told the dude from the bar that maybe he shoulda kept that to himself but he seemed to think it was funny.

Anyways, as the negative experiences seemed to outweigh the positive, I have since moved on from going to Thad's. I may revisit if word on the street is it's a cool place but I haven't been back since the pandemic.

[MaximusKahn]

From your posts here and in the Gangbang thread no doubt you've been disappointed with Jolar and Thads.

Adult Theaters and Swingers clubs are generally not good hunting grounds for Mongers who expect guaranteed great sex from attractive women.

Sorry to hear you've not been lucky in either place, but as we always say your Mileage will Vary.

I can't speak to the Adult Theaters but I can say at Thads I've only noticed two "gender-jumpers" as you call them in my many visits, and found them easy to avoid.

As mentioned in my previous posts, if older, or heavier women are not your thing, and the competition from numerous single guys bothers you, then accept the fact Thads is not for you and don't go. I've enjoyed some amazing nights that have encouraged me to go back, but every night isn't amazing and I accept the bad with the good.

Stick to our wonderful providers at the Agencies, or AMPs and enjoy the pay to play guarantee for your sexual pleasures. When you solicit the right places to your tastes, you won't be disappointed.


At least she had a real pussy to be eaten! Given that Thad's is now getting over-run with gender-jumpers (the men who "think" they are women, and dress as such! It's nice to see you found an "accommodating" Real woman! They are becoming few and far between at Thad's. There are still the obscenely OBSESE women (who have no business being naked! And those only there for the black guys. Makes for very "slim pickings" for single males to get pleasured by (and give pleasure to!

[MaximusKahn]

I just have to respond because your post if funny.

It can be tough to identify some, but once you're in a sexual situation, if you can't tell male from female, then you either like it, don't care, or need to pay closer attention or cut back on the booze.

Personally I like feminine women, so anything that looks masculine, or even too muscular is not attractive to me. Thus I'm not attracted to anything man-ly so the chances of me being "surprised" when the action gets going is very slim. The fact the guy had a sexual encounter and din't know it was male, is completely funny to me.

I find spotting the masculine women, or the men who want to be women, easy enough when you pay attention, and easier to avoid once you spotted them.


The evening started off okay. I was hanging out by the bar and a "lady" walked by. One of the guys at the bar said, "Is that I dude?

I answered that I didn't think so. "She" had kind of meaty arms and shoulders but nothing that screamed "man. " We are in San Diego so a woman could get arms and shoulders like that if she did a lot of swimming or surfing. I then passed by "her" and said "Hello" to which "she" replied with a warm smile. At this point I though "she" was a she.

Then I saw "her" sit down. Guys, if you want to be well liked by the ladies in your life, tell 'them that you know that are real ladies because their thighs flare out when they sit down. On second thought don't do that. Well, when "she" sat down, "her" thighs didn't flare out but "her" belly did. Guys tend to put the extra weight on their bellies and ladies on their thighs.

As the night progressed, "she" did a train at the side room where there used to be chairs and people would congregate to smoke and tell stories. I was standing outside with the guy from the bar watching this as if watching a car wreck (or maybe train wreck, haha) in slow motion. One of the guys who just finished joined us. He was a young guy, maybe 19 or so. The guy from the bar told him, "You just got with a dude. " He had a look of absolute horror on his face. I felt really awful for the guy, he might be traumatized for life. I told the dude from the bar that maybe he shoulda kept that to himself but he seemed to think it was funny.

Anyways, as the negative experiences seemed to outweigh the positive, I have since moved on from going to Thad's. I may revisit if word on the street is it's a cool place but I haven't been back since the pandemic.

[NudeBeachPerv]

I just have to respond because your post if funny.

It can be tough to identify some, but once you're in a sexual situation, if you can't tell male from female, then you either like it, don't care, or need to pay closer attention or cut back on the booze.

Personally I like feminine women, so anything that looks masculine, or even too muscular is not attractive to me. Thus I'm not attracted to anything man-ly so the chances of me being "surprised" when the action gets going is very slim. The fact the guy had a sexual encounter and din't know it was male, is completely funny to me.

I find spotting the masculine women, or the men who want to be women, easy enough when you pay attention, and easier to avoid once you spotted them.You may want to avoid the glory hole. I've heard from a reliable source (bartender) it is sometimes a guy there. Personally I never partook because I enjoy the visuals even more than the sensation so a GH wouldn't be enjoyable. But if that doesn't bug you, enjoy!

[MaximusKahn]

I'm Only interested in Women, but hold no judgment about people's orientation, proclivities, kinks, or perversions.

To go along with your sound advice. You should exercise caution with the GH. Even if you see a woman enter the GH from inside, be aware someone can also enter from outside, so anyone can come in from that direction once the inner door is closed.

So, even if you see a woman go in, there is no guarantee, she won't let one of her male friends come in from the outside.

And don't forget, couples sometimes like to be in the GH together, and you don't always know why. Caution is always advised in a swinger's environment. I appreciate the advice.


You may want to avoid the glory hole. I've heard from a reliable source (bartender) it is sometimes a guy there. Personally I never partook because I enjoy the visuals even more than the sensation so a GH wouldn't be enjoyable. But if that doesn't bug you, enjoy!

[Lascivious]

I hate seeing so many deletions in the Massage forum. I don't get out nearly as much as many other mongers but I've been through the VIP era and now 108.

VIP lived up to the hype in my experience. 108 is great. They don't need any extra BS hype. They let you see a lineup and always have a lot of pretty good to great choices. It would be a shame if they get banned here.

I've joked about them never offering a discount for giving good reviews. These guys getting deleted have given me a lot of good intel.

We don't need another spa go the way of the other lucky number spa.

[Sudcciv]

Given the number of Gender-Jumpers (Men that "think" they are women-and dress as such! It would not surprise me in the least if they are the "consistent" GH occupiers!


I'm Only interested in Women, but hold no judgment about people's orientation, proclivities, kinks, or perversions.

To go along with your sound advice. You should exercise caution with the GH. Even if you see a woman enter the GH from inside, be aware someone can also enter from outside, so anyone can come in from that direction once the inner door is closed.

So, even if you see a woman go in, there is no guarantee, she won't let one of her male friends come in from the outside.

And don't forget, couples sometimes like to be in the GH together, and you don't always know why. Caution is always advised in a swinger's environment. I appreciate the advice.

[NudeBeachPerv]

Given the number of Gender-Jumpers (Men that "think" they are women-and dress as such! It would not surprise me in the least if they are the "consistent" GH occupiers!The was a rumor that when famous podcaster Joe Rogan was in LA, he would drive down and get some GH time. Had nothing to do with being "gay" but Milo Yianopolous had told him that giving BJ's was the best way to get free range testosterone. That's why so many gays were so jacked. IDK the veracity but it sure is funny!

[JayLake]

The was a rumor that when famous podcaster Joe Rogan was in LA, he would drive down and get some GH time. Had nothing to do with being "gay" but Milo Yianopolous had told him that giving BJ's was the best way to get free range testosterone. That's why so many gays were so jacked. IDK the veracity but it sure is funny!It's YaknowIpoopondicks.

[NudeBeachPerv]

It's YaknowIpoopondicks.That's hilarious.

I guess since Rogan is no longer in driving distance, that Jocko Willnick guy took over.

[NudeBeachPerv]

I guess this is more of an LA thing that a San Diego thing but I've seen a few parties where they say Porn Star X,why, Z will be here. Then when you enquire they say you need to have recent test, be ok with filming and pay some money via CashApp or Venmo. Is this a way to make sure they don't get busted for prostitution? I know many would say never pre pay, but as a few of these events are reoccurring, it doesn't look like they are scamming.

[Member #6293]

[Deleted by Admin]

Greetings Everyone,

DeadAzz posted that he/she will no longer be participating in the forum.

Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his/her membership.

Thanks,

A2

[Admin2]

Put up a post talking about how fucked up we are because we protect the forum against shill accounts and you get to join them.

I tried for months to put an end to that shit and both the MGT at Spa 7 and 108 refused and worse their white nights refused. We believe very strongly in free expression, it's a value we hold dear but shill reports are not free expression, they are advertising.

As far as telling me how fucked up we are because we do something. The members of this forum are not customers, they are guests, very valuable guests who, as long as they behave as guests, are welcomed to come into our home and hang out as long as they want. However when you come into my house and put your dirty fucking feet on my sofa and then have the audacity to complain about the home you are a guest in, just like in the real world you will be shown the fucking door.

Both Spa 7 and 108 were incentivizing guys to post over the fucking top penthouse forum posts in order to advertise their places, they were told dozens of times to stop and refused. So they were shown the fucking door, if you want to tell me how bad a moderator I am for that use a PM but if you want to run down this forum then you can fucking well join them, I don't care if you were the first fucking guy that joined this site, disrespect us in our own fucking house and you have to go.

A2

[FO9999]

Put up a post talking about how fucked up we are because we protect the forum against shill accounts and you get to join them.

I tried for months to put an end to that shit and both the MGT at Spa 7 and 108 refused and worse their white nights refused. We believe very strongly in free expression, it's a value we hold dear but shill reports are not free expression, they are advertising.

As far as telling me how fucked up we are because we do something. The members of this forum are not customers, they are guests, very valuable guests who, as long as they behave as guests, are welcomed to come into our home and hang out as long as they want. However when you come into my house and put your dirty fucking feet on my sofa and then have the audacity to complain about the home you are a guest in, just like in the real world you will be shown the fucking door.

Both Spa 7 and 108 were incentivizing guys to post over the fucking top penthouse forum posts in order to advertise their places, they were told dozens of times to stop and refused. So they were shown the fucking door, if you want to tell me how bad a moderator I am for that use a PM but if you want to run down this forum then you can fucking well join them, I don't care if you were the first fucking guy that joined this site, disrespect us in our own fucking house and you have to go.

A2Well said!

[Sudcciv]

ANY time and EVERY time, a "provider" (of an individual "service" or a "party", etc. Asks for a "pre-payment" that does NOT involve giving cash at the door, or when the activity is going to occur, then IT IS A SCAM! EACH AND EVERY TIME!


I guess this is more of an LA thing that a San Diego thing but I've seen a few parties where they say Porn Star X,why, Z will be here. Then when you enquire they say you need to have recent test, be ok with filming and pay some money via CashApp or Venmo. Is this a way to make sure they don't get busted for prostitution? I know many would say never pre pay, but as a few of these events are reoccurring, it doesn't look like they are scamming.

[MaximusKahn]

In my experience, paying in advance is only going to get you a smaller bank account.

When any advertising is amazingly good be suspicious, when it ask for payment up front there is little doubt it's too good to be true.


I guess this is more of an LA thing that a San Diego thing but I've seen a few parties where they say Porn Star X,why, Z will be here. Then when you enquire they say you need to have recent test, be ok with filming and pay some money via CashApp or Venmo. Is this a way to make sure they don't get busted for prostitution? I know many would say never pre pay, but as a few of these events are reoccurring, it doesn't look like they are scamming.

[Lion1]

How can anyone be so thoughtless and tasteless as to post pics of random women that they fucked?

[NudeBeachPerv]

In my experience, paying in advance is only going to get you a smaller bank account.

When any advertising is amazingly good be suspicious, when it ask for payment up front there is little doubt it's too good to be true.Thanks Maximus and Suddiv.

One thing I didn't ad in the go post was that I had met one of the featured ladies before the pandemic at a play party. Still point taken!

[RChangDatyKing]

How can anyone be so thoughtless and tasteless as to post pics of random women that they fucked?I have had many sessions with ladies where we took pictures and videos, more so during the SDASP days. I would post the pictures in my TAG reviews on that site and it was with their approval. The discussions and agreements were always that the pictures / videos that I was allowed to have would be for my personal use. Of course the ladies themselves have used the pictures in their ads, but I would never post any pictures of them without their approval.

[DrPornDawger]

I have had many sessions with ladies where we took pictures and videos, more so during the SDASP days. I would post the pictures in my TAG reviews on that site and it was with their approval. The discussions and agreements were always that the pictures / videos that I was allowed to have would be for my personal use. Of course the ladies themselves have used the pictures in their ads, but I would never post any pictures of them without their approval.You are not by chance Gentleman1949 or 1946 some number in that range that I think might be the birth year. Gentleman always had a top hat covering the face or put on the back of the women as their bottom is up. Plus a rose.

Whatever happened to that site. (Aging myself here).

[DrPornDawger]

Both Spa 7 and 108 were incentivizing guys to post over the fucking top penthouse forum posts in order to advertise their places,
A2Man I am missing out. Should have asked to be paid for advertising. LOL.

How much was the compensation or was it all for free future services.

[RChangDatyKing]

You are not by chance Gentleman1949 or 1946 some number in that range that I think might be the birth year. Gentleman always had a top hat covering the face or put on the back of the women as their bottom is up. Plus a rose.

Whatever happened to that site. (Aging myself here).What's up DrPorn!

LOL. No I'm not Gentleman19 xx (I just turned 50 brother! Gentleman was a legend on that defunct site. Just like BlueSkyBlue on this site who inspired me to become a member. Gentleman's TAG reviews with the roses were awesome. TAG reviews was big on that site and lots of the ladies wanted them done.

My signature TAG reviews had the ladies wearing my dress shirts and / or just my tie. I also used sports jerseys which were also popular then.

Yeah I'm aging myself as well, but I started hobbying in late 20's / early 30's. Those were some fun hobbying times.

Alexdd (link to her HX ad) still uses pictures from one of her TAG reviews.

https://www.humaniplex.com/classifieds/3849

[Member #6437]

You are not by chance Gentleman1949 or 1946 some number in that range that I think might be the birth year. Gentleman always had a top hat covering the face or put on the back of the women as their bottom is up. Plus a rose.

Whatever happened to that site. (Aging myself here).I remember that site! There was a guy that would put the girls in a Yankee's jersey for pics!

Man that was the good old days. Do you remember the North Park Girls crew?

[TheFishsd]

It was Gentleman1948, IIRC. And no, that's not me.

It was a fun site with a good bit of camaraderie. Not as much misogyny, though sadly the men's only forum got some of that. I prefer to fool around with women I like, not hate the women I fool around with. Alas, it turned out the owner got himself in a bit of trouble.

Unfortunately (in a way) I stuck with that site rather than HX, so I don't have squat for reviews on HX.


What's up DrPorn!

LOL. No I'm not Gentleman19 xx (I just turned 50 brother! Gentleman was a legend on that defunct site. Just like BlueSkyBlue on this site who inspired me to become a member. Gentleman's TAG reviews with the roses were awesome. TAG reviews was big on that site and lots of the ladies wanted them done.

My signature TAG reviews had the ladies wearing my dress shirts and / or just my tie. I also used sports jerseys which were also popular then.

Yeah I'm aging myself as well, but I started hobbying in late 20's / early 30's. Those were some fun hobbying times.

Alexdd (link to her HX ad) still uses pictures from one of her TAG reviews.

https://www.humaniplex.com/classifieds/3849

[DrPornDawger]

What's up DrPorn!

LOL. No I'm not Gentleman19 xx (I just turned 50 brother! Gentleman was a legend on that defunct site. Just like BlueSkyBlue on this site who inspired me to become a member. Gentleman's TAG reviews with the roses were awesome. TAG reviews was big on that site and lots of the ladies wanted them done.

My signature TAG reviews had the ladies wearing my dress shirts and / or just my tie. I also used sports jerseys which were also popular then.

Yeah I'm aging myself as well, but I started hobbying in late 20's / early 30's. Those were some fun hobbying times.

Alexdd (link to her HX ad) still uses pictures from one of her TAG reviews.

https://www.humaniplex.com/classifieds/3849I remember her, oh good times. Does she look good for being 50? If that's the correct age on HX. What happened to all those ladies on SDASP. We are getting up in age. If Nick cage can fuck a person 40 years younger or even when I get to 70. I hope I can still bang those 20's with no problems.

Kind of like oldje videos lucky basstards.

[RChangDatyKing]

I remember her, oh good times. Does she look good for being 50? If that's the correct age on HX. What happened to all those ladies on SDASP. We are getting up in age. If Nick cage can fuck a person 40 years younger or even when I get to 70. I hope I can still bang those 20's with no problems.

Kind of like oldje videos lucky basstards.I haven't seen AlexDD in 15 years so I'm not sure if she look as good as when she was in her 30's. I'm sure many of those SDASP ladies are in their 40's and 50's and are married, retired. A few might still be around but I'm not sure where they are advertising. I know one of my fav Eva Bliss went off and got married.

Hell yeah if Nick Cage can do it so can we. I just turned 50 and still see ladies in their 20's and 30's. I am definitely keeping up with my training, boxing to maintain my stamina. LOL. Yeah I want to be like those guys in the videos when I'm in my 80's. LOL.

[Trojan713]

You are not by chance Gentleman1949 or 1946 some number in that range that I think might be the birth year. Gentleman always had a top hat covering the face or put on the back of the women as their bottom is up. Plus a rose.

Whatever happened to that site. (Aging myself here).Things ended terribly with that site. One of the promoters got a 4 year jail term, the other (I think it was Gentleman 1948) was hit with a 1 year sentence. Big sex trafficking bust:

https://timesofsandiego.com/crime/2016/09/28/pimp-ran-sex-website-gets-4-years-state-prison/

The bad thing is that the website membership info was turned over to prosecutors.

[Sudcciv]

Things ended terribly with that site. One of the promoters got a 4 year jail term, the other (I think it was Gentleman 1948) was hit with a 1 year sentence. Big sex trafficking bust:

https://timesofsandiego.com/crime/2016/09/28/pimp-ran-sex-website-gets-4-years-state-prison/

The bad thing is that the website membership info was turned over to prosecutors.You linked to a story that was 6.5 years ago (Sept. 2016). In what universe is this recent news?

[Trojan713]

You linked to a story that was 6.5 years ago (Sept. 2016). In what universe is this recent news?A previous poster asked about what had happened to that site, and I told him.

Please try to keep up.

[TheFishsd]

I haven't seen AlexDD in 15 years so I'm not sure if she look as good as when she was in her 30's.I've only been seeing her for about 7 years, so I can't compare to 15 years ago. But I'd say that the recent pics in her HX account are 100% accurate. And that many much younger women would be jealous to have a body like that. Yeah, she still looks great. Especially given the size breasts she fighting gravity with.

With. Be warned, she does like to chat first, so maybe not your style if you're into wham bam.

[RChangDatyKing]

I've only been seeing her for about 7 years, so I can't compare to 15 years ago. But I'd say that the recent pics in her HX account are 100% accurate. And that many much younger women would be jealous to have a body like that. Yeah, she still looks great. Especially given the size breasts she fighting gravity with.

With. Be warned, she does like to chat first, so maybe not your style if you're into wham bam.Yes, I remembered her boobs being amazing. And her body back then was exactly like the picture's with her wearing the black hat and holding the rose which were from gentleman1948's tag review from the old sdasp days.

[RChangDatyKing]

Things ended terribly with that site. One of the promoters got a 4 year jail term, the other (I think it was Gentleman 1948) was hit with a 1 year sentence. Big sex trafficking bust:

https://timesofsandiego.com/crime/2016/09/28/pimp-ran-sex-website-gets-4-years-state-prison/

The bad thing is that the website membership info was turned over to prosecutors.Thank you for attaching the link to the article. It helped explained what happened to that site. Those were some fun days.

[TantraMan]

I've only been seeing her for about 7 years, so I can't compare to 15 years ago. But I'd say that the recent pics in her HX account are 100% accurate. And that many much younger women would be jealous to have a body like that. Yeah, she still looks great. Especially given the size breasts she fighting gravity with.

With. Be warned, she does like to chat first, so maybe not your style if you're into wham bam.AlexaDD is alive and well (and available). She looks the same to me as always. Agree with the comment about her liking to sit in the LR and gab first. You just have to proactively manage this. Contact info is in the Hx link below.

Enjoy.

Tantraman.

[JitMarc]

Man, recently started some new meds and now I can't seems to cum. And one else have experienced this problem? Went to see a provider and got to enjoy a nice long fuck. However, thr blue balls at the end really sucked.

[RobXx7]

Man, recently started some new meds and now I can't seems to cum. And one else have experienced this problem? Went to see a provider and got to enjoy a nice long fuck. However, thr blue balls at the end really sucked.Are you sure it's the meds? I have a similar problem of having to much fun and it got to the point where I can't cum. I think it's the to much fun for me I think. It's harder for me to have a good orgasm. I used to have the best orgasm to pussy and used to cum a lot, my cum has decreased and I get soft while fucking I used to stay super hard and cum a lot.

[Waylay]

Man, recently started some new meds and now I can't seems to cum. And one else have experienced this problem? Went to see a provider and got to enjoy a nice long fuck. However, thr blue balls at the end really sucked.This happens to me if I've taken an Adderall that day. It helps a lot if you haven't cum in more than a day. If you're going to be taking this medication daily, whatever it is, you should try not to cum for a day or two before you spend time with your partner.

[BeachDrone]

Are you sure it's the meds? I have a similar problem of having to much fun and it got to the point where I can't cum. I think it's the to much fun for me I think. It's harder for me to have a good orgasm. I used to have the best orgasm to pussy and used to cum a lot, my cum has decreased and I get soft while fucking I used to stay super hard and cum a lot.I doubt it is the meds, although it could be. I'm 70, and happy I can still have fun with ladies. Now, however, I cannot cum with a condom anymore (it is still fun, though). And the volume has definitely decreased. So, selective BBFS works, or a very good BBBJ, and sometimes a good HJ. Part of it is the connection I feel with the provider, too. I'm very happy I'm still having fun. On my way to Spain in two weeks. Should be an interesting trip.

[JitMarc]

Thank you. I'm probably going to take a break for a little bit and see what happens. Hopefully, after some time away I can resume and enjoy myself again.

[SDLover]

Thank you. I'm probably going to take a break for a little bit and see what happens. Hopefully, after some time away I can resume and enjoy myself again.Try At Least 2 weeks that helped me. No jacking off bring back that sensation.

[Senior Leche]

Man, recently started some new meds and now I can't seems to cum. And one else have experienced this problem? Went to see a provider and got to enjoy a nice long fuck. However, thr blue balls at the end really sucked.I'm 65 years old and have been having the same problem for the past few years. The solutions are a caring and patient provider and lots of foreplay, being well rested, and relaxed. I don't find that holding off on sex for any period of time really helps. It sucks to get old.

[Tendancer]

I had to get circumcised a couple of years ago, in my mid 50's. Apart from being painful af afterwards for weeks, now I find it's very hard to cum with a condom, and bare I cum quite fast. And I used to give facials to be proud of but now it's barely a dribble, my ATF is sad.

[UCBaja2]

This is getting kinda funny with the old timers calling out their own performance. I'll join the chorus.

Early 50's and have a hard time cum with a condom, bare is absolutely phenomenal. I've had too many anxious / nervous / sketchy encounters over the years that resulted in boner failure, so viagra is a must. Volume has decreased significantly.

I usually bring a 004 ultra thin condom and the provider has always been cool with that. Now, if I'm fucking with a condom and if I feel the urge to cum I don't hold back, regardless of whether I paid for a QV or hhr / hr. Holding back to get more pussy is great when it works but, usually, if I suppress the initial urge to cum it can be hard to get back to that apex again and often results in mission failure.

There seems to be a catch with the 004 condoms though. If the provider puts it on it stays in place during sex, but if I put it on it usually breaks, and I can feel the difference immediately. At that point I don't look down or change positions so the provider isn't aware of breakage and I finish as quick as possible.

[RichJ8991]

I hate seeing so many deletions in the Massage forum. I don't get out nearly as much as many other mongers but I've been through the VIP era and now 108.

VIP lived up to the hype in my experience. 108 is great. They don't need any extra BS hype. They let you see a lineup and always have a lot of pretty good to great choices. It would be a shame if they get banned here.

I've joked about them never offering a discount for giving good reviews. These guys getting deleted have given me a lot of good intel.

We don't need another spa go the way of the other lucky number spa.Is VIP even called that still? I think they took the sign down and just left a lot of cheap window dressing. I hope we are talking about the same place next to the smoke shop on Campo. BTW the roof that is connected to the smoke shop has drywall that does not run up all the way. So they can hear what's going on. Which is stupid because there are rooms on the east and west side, and they always provide on the west side next to the shop. Oh well. The artist formerly known as VIP is still pretty good, all young girls in their 20's and early 30's, but nothing spectacular lately. I'll take a 7 that really knows what they are doing and gets into it over a 9 that is a fish.

[Lovable]

This is getting kinda funny with the old timers calling out their own performance. I'll join the chorus.

Early 50's and have a hard time cum with a condom, bare is absolutely phenomenal. I've had too many anxious / nervous / sketchy encounters over the years that resulted in boner failure, so viagra is a must. Volume has decreased significantly.

I usually bring a 004 ultra thin condom and the provider has always been cool with that. Now, if I'm fucking with a condom and if I feel the urge to cum I don't hold back, regardless of whether I paid for a QV or hhr / hr. Holding back to get more pussy is great when it works but, usually, if I suppress the initial urge to cum it can be hard to get back to that apex again and often results in mission failure.

There seems to be a catch with the 004 condoms though. If the provider puts it on it stays in place during sex, but if I put it on it usually breaks, and I can feel the difference immediately. At that point I don't look down or change positions so the provider isn't aware of breakage and I finish as quick as possible.Hang in there youngsters, I just turned 80 and can still get over the line with the right TLC. Sometimes it's a little hit or miss but always fun.

[RolfTorren]

Good to hear there's hope. I'm about 20 years behind you. Viagra has done wonders for my performance and confidence. I've sometimes wondered how long I'll keep going with the hobby. Just today I saw someone who told me I needed to bring my own rubbers because I was "too big" for the standard house issue. It was the vitamin V doing it's job. My advice: if this is really important experiment with supplements, diet and exercise. There are a ton of resources online. And be patient with yourself. Women are well aware of the body clock ticking. Us guys less so. You don't have to age out of this. You just have to adapt.


Hang in there youngsters, I just turned 80 and can still get over the line with the right TLC. Sometimes it's a little hit or miss but always fun.

[RolfTorren]

I checked out the old VIP many months ago after the owner and cohort that we all loved moved on. Didn't see any younger talent but I got the distinct impression that all was on the table. I've not been back since. As for the relationship with the smoke shop, an impeccable source told me that freebies were offered in exchange for a certain amount of tolerance related to the activities in the old VIP.


Is VIP even called that still? I think they took the sign down and just left a lot of cheap window dressing. I hope we are talking about the same place next to the smoke shop on Campo. BTW the roof that is connected to the smoke shop has drywall that does not run up all the way. So they can hear what's going on. Which is stupid because there are rooms on the east and west side, and they always provide on the west side next to the shop. Oh well. The artist formerly known as VIP is still pretty good, all young girls in their 20's and early 30's, but nothing spectacular lately. I'll take a 7 that really knows what they are doing and gets into it over a 9 that is a fish.

[Rey KittyHawk]

Definitely hang in there, and keep plowing along. I'm not quite there chronologically, but I can see it down the road.

Few years back had a "performance" issue that worried me. Had to go on the wagon with a strict diet for a while for medical reasons. Low and behold, something came alive again and has been fine since. Of course the good diet and serious exercise helps too, but I think cutting out the booze for a while helped. Don't know how much anyone drinks, but I really love my craft beer.

I also found finding the right provider who really turns me on influences my stiffness, quality of orgasm, and the cum volume. Have tried Vit "V" but found the right girl worked better than medical chemistry. If she is hot and does it right, it is great.

Another thing a fellow monger told me, which I really have not tried yet, was to spark your hormones up with porn before you visit a provider. I'm a fairly horny guy, so have I not tried this specifically, but it make sense to show up horny to assist arousal. Just a thought to share.

As for condoms. I bring my own. If I put it on, I wipe off Jr. So he's not slippery wet, and I make sure to leave room in tip for expansion, thrusting, and the load that's sure to come.

So far the only one's I've broken were the house condoms, which is why I always bring my own.


This is getting kinda funny with the old timers calling out their own performance. I'll join the chorus.

Early 50's and have a hard time cum with a condom, bare is absolutely phenomenal. I've had too many anxious / nervous / sketchy encounters over the years that resulted in boner failure, so viagra is a must. Volume has decreased significantly.

I usually bring a 004 ultra thin condom and the provider has always been cool with that. Now, if I'm fucking with a condom and if I feel the urge to cum I don't hold back, regardless of whether I paid for a QV or hhr / hr. Holding back to get more pussy is great when it works but, usually, if I suppress the initial urge to cum it can be hard to get back to that apex again and often results in mission failure.

There seems to be a catch with the 004 condoms though. If the provider puts it on it stays in place during sex, but if I put it on it usually breaks, and I can feel the difference immediately. At that point I don't look down or change positions so the provider isn't aware of breakage and I finish as quick as possible.

[SukijoSeiwaka]

Have a friend developing a cure requiring no drugs. He claims it's based on encoding neuron energy and flow of energy. Example, if a specific neuron causes allergic reaction then, rerouting energy away will discharge the area and prevent allergic reaction at the root. It may seem out there but, I've watched this guy have violent allergic reactions to pollen and food. Now he's cured and we all think it was a supernatural miracle. However, he claims he studied neurology and physics to cure himself. I did see hin doing this. What are your thoughts?

[ArtVandalayy]

Have a friend developing a cure requiring no drugs. He claims it's based on encoding neuron energy and flow of energy. Example, if a specific neuron causes allergic reaction then, rerouting energy away will discharge the area and prevent allergic reaction at the root. It may seem out there but, I've watched this guy have violent allergic reactions to pollen and food. Now he's cured and we all think it was a supernatural miracle. However, he claims he studied neurology and physics to cure himself. I did see hin doing this. What are your thoughts?My thoughts are this for sure fits into the "stupid shit in San Diego" category.

[Sudcciv]

Have a friend developing a cure requiring no drugs. He claims it's based on encoding neuron energy and flow of energy. Example, if a specific neuron causes allergic reaction then, rerouting energy away will discharge the area and prevent allergic reaction at the root. It may seem out there but, I've watched this guy have violent allergic reactions to pollen and food. Now he's cured and we all think it was a supernatural miracle. However, he claims he studied neurology and physics to cure himself. I did see hin doing this. What are your thoughts?All of the above is clearly about as "effective" as "faith-healing", and practiced by people with the same level of intelligence that "believe" in THAT CRAP!

[SukijoSeiwaka]

My thoughts are this for sure fits into the "stupid shit in San Diego" category.I'm just imagining where this could lead. Programming neuron energy could lead to many uncurable illnesses ceasing to exist. Think about it. I he can program neurons to not react a certain way then, things like mental illness and body self harm would logically be curable vs a life of pills and therapy.

At least he's not saying it was a miracle like everyone else.

[MaximusKahn]

If you want us to respond with our "thoughts" on that topic give us enough intelligent information to form a realistic opinion.

Your example falls into the "okay, anything is possible category" but you have not told us how he did it, and demonstrated it working. You seeing a claimed result just isn't enough evidence to qualify as proof.

That is similar to saying my friend discovered the way to travel the speed of light (although current scientific evidence says that is not possible) and claim you saw him do it, and end the statement there.

Okay, intelligently lay out how he can do it, then consistently show us him doing it, and provide everything needed for others to demonstrate they can do it using his methods.

Then it becomes repeatable scientific information that reaches beyond opinion, feelings, and personal information from non-experts. Just my thoughts.


Have a friend developing a cure requiring no drugs. He claims it's based on encoding neuron energy and flow of energy. Example, if a specific neuron causes allergic reaction then, rerouting energy away will discharge the area and prevent allergic reaction at the root. It may seem out there but, I've watched this guy have violent allergic reactions to pollen and food. Now he's cured and we all think it was a supernatural miracle. However, he claims he studied neurology and physics to cure himself. I did see hin doing this. What are your thoughts?

[Reds101]

Have a friend developing a cure requiring no drugs. He claims it's based on encoding neuron energy and flow of energy. Example, if a specific neuron causes allergic reaction then, rerouting energy away will discharge the area and prevent allergic reaction at the root. It may seem out there but, I've watched this guy have violent allergic reactions to pollen and food. Now he's cured and we all think it was a supernatural miracle. However, he claims he studied neurology and physics to cure himself. I did see hin doing this. What are your thoughts?I have a magnetic bracelet that will improve your bloodflow / circulation for $20.

[Jaguar300ZX]

I had to get circumcised a couple of years ago, in my mid 50's. Apart from being painful af afterwards for weeks, now I find it's very hard to cum with a condom, and bare I cum quite fast. And I used to give facials to be proud of but now it's barely a dribble, my ATF is sad.You could try an 'Adjustable Urethral Sounding Dilator Stretcher' (Google it).

[Rey KittyHawk]

My friend has developed a cure for a flaccid Penis, its called an awesome blow job by a beautiful Asian woman.

He has a cure for work, it's called play.

He has a cure for boredom, it's called entertainment.

He has cure for insomnia, it's called hard strenuous work, or an alternative, an exhausting work out.

He has a cure for people posting stupid shit, it's called the ignore button.

He really does, I saw it.

Unfortunately he has not yet developed the cure for crazy, stupid, or ignorant, but I know he's working on them.

Any thoughts?

[SukijoSeiwaka]

If you want us to respond with our "thoughts" on that topic give us enough intelligent information to form a realistic opinion.

Your example falls into the "okay, anything is possible category" but you have not told us how he did it, and demonstrated it working. You seeing a claimed result just isn't enough evidence to qualify as proof.

That is similar to saying my friend discovered the way to travel the speed of light (although current scientific evidence says that is not possible) and claim you saw him do it, and end the statement there.

Okay, intelligently lay out how he can do it, then consistently show us him doing it, and provide everything needed for others to demonstrate they can do it using his methods.

Then it becomes repeatable scientific information that reaches beyond opinion, feelings, and personal information from non-experts. Just my thoughts.Witnessed:

Experiment 1: Allergies: Using Methid to prevent formation of Hemorrhoids.

For a year, he turned on his food allergies. Repeatable symptoms: Rectal Bleeding and Hemorrhoids after consumption. During 4/2023's experiment, he did the same routine as always but, after rerouting and dishcharging neuron synaptic energy, no symptoms were present. 2. He then, consumed higher amounts of allergens such as wheat, dairy, etc. No symptoms present. 3. He then caused open tears and inserting excrement into the rectal tears. No symptoms present.

Experiment 2: Drug and Substance Addiction: For a year, subject indulged in addictive substances to the point of consuming overdose levels. Using his methods, subject hasn't had any relapses, or displayed any symptoms associated with quiting cold turkey or seen with modern rehab methods. 5 years ago, same subject suffered from relapse and rehab side effects seen in modern substance users.

Experiment 3: Allergic Rhinitis and Hay Fever.

Subject has 10+ years of allergic reaction to pollens and pet fur. Symptoms: Larynx swelling, congested sinuses, consistent mucus running, hoarse throat, vocal fold soarness and bleeding. Subject displayed no symptoms to allergen at beginning of experiment. After reactivating allergies, subject displayed typical symptoms. After turning allergies off, all symptoms ceased.

There's many more experiments actually. People think it was supernatural miracles or that he has magical powers. Not claiming he doesn't but, obviously this method he has is highly advanced knowledge. Problems:

1. Our technology is too primitive: He's talking about encoding energy as a storage medium vs solid matter. We don't even know how to store information in DNA molecules yet. Storing infor in DNA is the big thing now. This guy is so advanced, he's programming individual neurons and their synapeses.

Unlike others who give up because of modern science's limitations, he's attempting to develop a more primitive version of his concepts. I saw his math and scientific method. The characters and symbols seem to be from another dimension or some advanced alien civilization. Using modern math as an example, I couldn't even get real or possibly real sum. It just looked like really advanced concepts. Which makes sense because he's basically rewritting synaptic functions. Do you understand how many neurons a brain has? BILLIONS or Trillions.

I'm a scientist and a skeptic. However, I don't disparage supernatural claims. I just believe supernatural claims are unexplained scientific phenom we don't have technology to understand yet. A better example would be: My friend can travel faster than light. He keeps bringing strange unexplainable metals back. We don't have the scientific capabilities to comprehend how but, he's repeatedly bringing metals back which don't exist in our solar system.

[SukijoSeiwaka]

I have a magnetic bracelet that will improve your bloodflow / circulation for $20.That's great. His methods require no external factors. He just uses the body's own natural energy.

[SukijoSeiwaka]

All of the above is clearly about as "effective" as "faith-healing", and practiced by people with the same level of intelligence that "believe" in THAT CRAP!Read my reply to MaximusKahn. There are many demonstrable experiments.

[SukijoSeiwaka]

I had to get circumcised a couple of years ago, in my mid 50's. Apart from being painful af afterwards for weeks, now I find it's very hard to cum with a condom, and bare I cum quite fast. And I used to give facials to be proud of but now it's barely a dribble, my ATF is sad.I feel for you. They at least let me choose to get cut or not. I had a botched circumcision which resulted in scarring. I just decided to keep it natural. If I ever practice my traditions again, technically I did try and had a bad result. Plus, you get to enjoy sex more if you have the skin. Now my penis can be easily cleaned since the skin keeping the penis connected is torn off but csn be sheathed.

[SukijoSeiwaka]

My friend has developed a cure for a flaccid Penis, its called an awesome blow job by a beautiful Asian woman.

He has a cure for work, it's called play.

He has a cure for boredom, it's called entertainment.

He has cure for insomnia, it's called hard strenuous work, or an alternative, an exhausting work out.

He has a cure for people posting stupid shit, it's called the ignore button.

He really does, I saw it.

Unfortunately he has not yet developed the cure for crazy, stupid, or ignorant, but I know he's working on them.You're describing normally functioning people. A leader like you would ruin people's lives. Your logic is similar to, "just add duct tape. " You clearly have no understanding of how defects can alter bodies.

Basically, a drug addict's body has been altered at such a micro level that simply quitting cold turkey often sends the body into shock subconsciously and can result in long term ramifications. People like you are the reason why cures Europe and Asian countries have keep getting pestered when touching English soil. I'm not disparaging you just trying to fix your logic. Saying, just put a banaid on it doesn't help people with serious problems. Most people can't quit cold turkey. It's medically advised not to. Long-term binge drinkers often experience seizures and stroke during their first week of quitting. This is why we have rehab LOL. You can seriously get screwed up just by quitting but, with your logic: All you need to do is be a man and tough it out.

Even though alcohol has fundamentally changed your physiology at a microcosm.

[NudeBeachPerv]

IDK the veracity of this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blacksbeach/comments/12ozmei/mod_post_there_will_be_a_law_enforcement_crack/

I will say I have seen lifeguards running up and down the beach not in uniform. The tell tale is they have walkie talkies. FWIW, I would rather have a beach with a really laid back atmosphere where hotties feel comfortable sunbathing, someone can discretely have a drink (but not get drunk and start fights,) and one can take a dip in the ocean au natural as they say. Wether or not if there is a crackdown, I hope this beach does not go the way of San Onofre.

[MaximusKahn]

Come on, guys and girls, lets not fuck this up. The beach is long and deep. If you want to drink, or get frisky with someone walk way North away from the main trail (the one near the glider port) between the second trail (at the end of the parking lot) and find a comfortable spot away from everyone. If you really want perverted privacy go even further North beyond the second trail.

Don't do it between the main trail down and the Volley ball nets, this is the common area most families might go and is most crowded. Don't do it around or near the volley ball courts, this is where the nudists, and naturalists go. They are the ones who like to pretend they don't notice pussies, cocks, and hard bodies. And they will confront you for jerking off or being drunk or lewd.

Don't go south, this is where the surfers go, and they will think you are creepy in every way.

If you want to suck, fuck, jerk and drink, expect to hike far to a secluded spot well beyond the Volley Ball courts.

Walk North, find a secluded and quiet spot away from everyone, and stay alert. Be ready to stop any action and cover up, and conceal your drinks. Be fucking discrete for god sakes.

The problems is the pervs and drunks want to be around other people. Yea we know you want to see as many naked people as you can. But this is counter productive, and will get your behavior reported, and possibly ticketed. Imagine a ticket of lewd and indecent behavior on your record? Of even just public intoxication? Or both?

I'd be lying if I said I never got frisky or enjoyed a beverage or two on Black's beach. I have, and I've had my share of fun. But I do it in such a way nobody objects, complains, or sees a need to report my behavior. Really, unless you come sit by me, most can't even tell what I'm up to with my friends, but we stay clear of the crowds too. And we are discrete, we don't act like anything goes.

If you want to see more nudity, go for a walk along the beach and scout the scenes. Then go back to your spot and enjoy yourself away from concerned citizens and lifeguards.

I do appreciate this post because I'm use to keeping an eye out for the Lifeguard Truck cruising back and forth, now I have to watch out for walkers in plain clothes too.

But when you walk north far enough, and are way back on the beach far from the waves, it's real easy to see anyone coming your way for a long way off.

Lets not fuck this one up, because it is a STATE BEACH that tolerates nudity and can stop tolerating it in a heart beat on the whim of one politician responding to complaints.


IDK the veracity of this.

https://www.reddit.com/r/blacksbeach/comments/12ozmei/mod_post_there_will_be_a_law_enforcement_crack/

I will say I have seen lifeguards running up and down the beach not in uniform. The tell tale is they have walkie talkies. FWIW, I would rather have a beach with a really laid back atmosphere where hotties feel comfortable sunbathing, someone can discretely have a drink (but not get drunk and start fights,) and one can take a dip in the ocean au natural as they say. Wether or not if there is a crackdown, I hope this beach does not go the way of San Onofre.

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You're describing normally functioning people. A leader like you would ruin people's lives. Your logic is similar to, "just add duct tape. " You clearly have no understanding of how defects can alter bodies.

Basically, a drug addict's body has been altered at such a micro level that simply quitting cold turkey often sends the body into shock subconsciously and can result in long term ramifications. People like you are the reason why cures Europe and Asian countries have keep getting pestered when touching English soil. I'm not disparaging you just trying to fix your logic. Saying, just put a banaid on it doesn't help people with serious problems. Most people can't quit cold turkey. It's medically advised not to. Long-term binge drinkers often experience seizures and stroke during their first week of quitting. This is why we have rehab LOL. You can seriously get screwed up just by quitting but, with your logic: All you need to do is be a man and tough it out.

Even though alcohol has fundamentally changed your physiology at a microcosm.People CAN and DO QUIT ADDICTIONS all the time! Ever hear of people quitting their "nicotine" (tobacco smoking) addiction? Guess how most of them do it? That is right, COLD TURKEY! Yes, there are dangers to quitting some drugs like alcohol and benzodiazapines. Medical supervision, and medication withdrawals MAY be in order. But a person that really wants to quit and STAY QUIT from an addictive substance can do it with NO "relapse requirement" at all. I once had a client that said if she put HALF as much mental effort into staying off her "stuff" as she did into "scoring it" and ingesting it, then being and remaining clean would be as easy as breathing. Make a decision and stick to it. It IS that simple!