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PoonTangJohnny
03-03-22, 21:46
Damn.Any other good sites to find independent massage providers listings?https://sandiego.rubmd.com/
The DudeInSd
03-03-22, 22:06
I've been accused of the same, because I rarely right any negative reviews. First, I'm experienced enough to know how to avoid disasters. Second, there are enough negative Charlie's out there to vent their inexperience.
Last shill I was accused of was Michelle at 7 Spa and I predicted there would be plenty more shilling going about her, then there was. Vindicated!Yes agree 100% with you Ryan. You are an excellent contributor to many websites out there and I for one appreciate it. I think in my 120 reviews I've only left 3 that were negative in regards to the girl. I am not talking about shady neighborhoods are places where I feel unsafe. I'm simply stating the girl specifically. The Vietnamese girl at serenity and Yo-Yo at Erma and Thai Emily.
These girls work really hard for their money so I hate to bash them when they are already struggling. I will admit 100% that there has been about 5 or 6 girls that Cris brought in that she did not know that I did not like their service. I did not bash them because I knew they were going to be gone in 5 days anyway, because Cris does not put up with stuff like that and will not allow them to stay there 10 days or 2 weeks if they have a bad attitude or bad service.
Cheers.
The DudeInSd
03-03-22, 23:17
Why you ask, do these few member's you mentioned (who in reality could be 1 person with multiple accounts?) continue their negative attack campaign against one specific AMP'?
Because they know, that there isn't a single AMP in all of San Diego who can compete with the level of service and girls that VIP is providing. Nobody. So their last resort are these continual nasty smear and fear tactics.But we really.
Appreciate all three of your reviews, we are waiting with bated breath for your next great review on.
Welcome to the big leagues kid and welcome to the board by the way with all of your 22 post and 3 reviews LOL.
The DudeInSd
03-04-22, 00:26
The funniest thing that just dawned on me is that you have a total of 3 reviews and they're all for the same shop. And you want to call me a shill? I have 120 freaking reviews as listed. Who is the shill? Lmao.
Keep up the good work, can't wait for your next educated response.
ADwightSchrute
03-04-22, 05:27
To each their own. We just have to take every review with a grain of salt and be aware of our own experience with the spa. I appreciate everyone’s reviews.
Wish I could add the Michael Jackson eating popcorn gif here.
Since you responded to my post I'll take that as an invitation for me to respond back.
Are you really a fan because I can recall most of your posts about VIP has been more jabs about them rather than recommendations to go visit their establishments.
You did wrote a positive review about VIP SV once on 12/10/21 (post # 16283) after you saw CiCi. You said your experience was crazy awesome and said other spas need to raise their game.
After that review its been all jabs about VIP (and you also mentioned 108 in this post) being unsafe, they need cameras, there's no defense on the doors (post #135 on 12/19/21).
You said you're a fan of VIP2, have you really been there? On 1/1/22 post #16691 you asked for the VIP2 location.
Maybe you weren't given the address to VIP2 and/or was never invited so on 1/3/22 post #16740 you mock people posting about VIP2 saying it's not some exclusive club.
On 1/4/22 post # 151 you again posted something about talking to a cop friend, VIP license check and that if people visit VIP they are at risk.
On 1/13/22 post #16867 you mock VIP2 again and said it's comical that people needing an invite that it's not an exclusive club.
What fan would posts so many negative things about a place they enjoy going to. So it makes me wonder, Are you really a fan? Have you actually been to VIP2 exclusive club?
In this post you say you love MiMi at 108. Is this the same MiMi you say is greedy like in post # 16134 on 12/2/21? You talked about 108 being super risky with the setup in the business building, they are setting up to get busted, no bolt on doors, no password like Pine. That you were out!
Are you really now a fan of VIP and 108?
Again, we all have our favorite AMPs, independents, AAMPs, etc. Write your reviews for your favorite providers, but don't take jabs at places without a personal experience that you can share.
ADwightSchrute
03-04-22, 05:30
The office building area that 108 is in is far from ghetto. Never seen homeless people in that area.
There was that one time a homeless lady was loitering outside of 7 Spa. She never entered the premises.
People ignore my report of two cop cars chilling in the cul-de-sac by Flanders back in June, but there is this paranoid fear of 108, exclusively. I mean, when I was entering the cul-de-sac, the cops shined their light at my car. No other person here has corroborated their presence, but Flanders is a pretty popular and busy place as well. Also, never any talk of concerns with Smile and Super Spa which are all in the same neighborhood as 108.I haven't been to Flanders in a while or dropped by. But I could see other reasons for popo to be there. But always a good idea to check around. Maybe one of the other business near Flanders filed a complaint as they have assigned parking spots and maybe a monger took one of them?
PoonTangJohnny
03-04-22, 12:27
But we really.
Appreciate all three of your reviews, we are waiting with bated breath for your next great review on.
Welcome to the big leagues kid and welcome to the board by the way with all of your 22 post and 3 reviews LOL.Thank you.
It's interesting how you deflected responding to all the senior member's who called you out in the past. Perhaps you may have missed my post, where I quoted several of the reputable senior member's here? You may want to read or re-read their comments where they torched you and respond to them as well. It's very clear how these senior member's (GDAloha, Baller55, SDJaziKing, Sir Bishop, Rolf Torren, Waylay, Trusty Harilip) feel in regards to your obvious agenda here. These highly respected member's called you out for doing this exact same thing (shilling) about a year ago, yet here you are, continuing your shill agenda. The problem is, you're not very good at it.
I am new here but I'm not new to this hobby. I've been following this place for about 2 years now. All of the hoopla surrounding VIP brought me out of my shell. Up until my experiences at VIP, I've never had experiences anything close to what they've been provided me. Personally, there is no need for me to go anywhere else now. I'm sorry if I may have offended you and struck a nerve for posting what I feel the truth to be. It isn't personal. Happy mongering.
Please, read these again, then get back to me.
I reached out to Cris about her friend and she was unwilling to provide pictures or info about this Kelly. Just kept asking me when I would like to come. I appreciate all your input over the years SD and our pms, but I don't think Cris and her friends provide the same service to most as they might to you. I've visited Cris and figured it would be fine with her giving info about new girl, but she was reluctant for some reason. She'll post it in an ad but not give out to former clients? Was interested in seeing her, but Cris has a lot to learn in this business if she plans to stay around.
I do find it comical though that your Asian guess of "26 years old, looks really young. 5'2" and 105 lbs" is 'exactly' what Cris puts in the add for Kelly. Ha.
So I checked Cris out, given from the review that she provides FS upgrade and I have to say, I honestly still don't even know if I fucked "Cris" or not. Txted her number on RR, she txted me back fairly quickly and I showed up on her incall in no time. When the door was opened, there was a lady who doesn't resemble anything from the pictures.
- She looked way taller; Probably 5'7 or taller. Doesn't look attractive, but keeping the mask on helped me enough to get distracted.
- Not so great in English.
- Handed her 140 for an hr and she told me to undress.
- Apparently there was another girl in the apartment since she was talking to someone else while I was getting undressed. (Perhaps "real" Cris?
- Before I was done undressing, she just walked in and gave me a big smile; proceeded to get on her knees and began sucking my dick (BBBJ) for good 5 minutes. Honestly, her BBBJ was pretty great though.
- She has multiple tattoos on her, especially on the left side.
- Then proceeded on putting covers then we began fucking in multiple positions. Mish, Doggy, standing doggy, CG, RCG.
- After some doggy, she was kinda insisting taking off the cover and just BBFS her, but her hemorrhoid was so bad, I thought that shit was a wart for a sec. So I kept the rubber on just in case. Just a little warning.
- Popped in the bag after 15 minute of non-stop fucking..
Lastly, I think a majority of people on this board have caught on to your ways and are tired of you posting about cris and her friends. Please feel free to start your own thread on the topic. I'm not sure where your attacks on me are coming from, but all I pointed out was somehow you had the exact details or in what you said was your Asian guess, as the post Cris put up.
Please fellow mongers, chime in on the topic!
I have commented a couple times on how the dude is schilling for this booker Cris and is the only one posting reviews of the girls here. It seems really sketchy, so I am not going to ever visit.
I will stick with SDAG and FEC and Sandra99 for now.
I 100% agree with you. Thedudeinsd gets all butt hurt if anyone disagrees with him about kris and gang and accuses you of being poor or rude to his supposively amazing girls. I saw them and they are not nearly as attractive. Perhaps he just had lower standards. But whatever to each his own.
He's butt hurt. Is he a pimp, manager or booker? IDGAF since he has clearly posted misleading info. I'm avoiding Cris and this crew based on what TheDudeInSd has posted. I don't need an image search to recognize the rants of a guy that is promoting his crew.
He's way too defensive in his perspective of these girls. It's a dead give away that he's getting kickbacks from these girls or is their manager / promoter.
He should be disqualified of senior member status.
I don't know that guy from adam, but I also have observed his pattern of shilling and it is highly suspicious. Whatever his connection is to Cris and the rest of them, it's resulting in less-than unbiased reviews.
I've noted previously that there is something weird about those posts. If the services are legit and the girls hot, then the word will get around soon enough. The fact that it hasn't is telling. Personally I don't have the time to do systematic searches on images, names and reputations. I really appreciate it when guys who have made this a real hobby do, and share that info. You guys have saved me from wasting a lot of money. For me 2020 has been mixed. Some fantastic experiences (Ash, Bora in the Asian FS market). A cool encounter at KK with Jenny; and some phenomenal fbsm activity (Natalie, Michelle, Alyson). A significant number of others have been just "OK". And a couple of money and time wasters. I've talked about these in various threads over the year. The bottom line is I've learned to trust a few seasoned hobbyists and had some fun as a result. Hoping for better times in 2021.
What the hell is happening to this board! Not only are there TWO first time posting on this Asian thread, but there are also TWO first time posting on the independent massage thread! Can anyone guess what they all have in common. That's right! Thy all talk about or mention Cris and her friends!
I'm all for adding new members and getting input, but common! In just one day we have FOUR new members and each one of them has their first post talking about Cris and her friends.
Does anyone else see this?
The DudeInSd
03-04-22, 17:45
Thank you.
It's interesting how you deflected responding to all the senior member's who called you out in the past. Perhaps you may have missed my post, where I quoted several of the reputable senior member's here? You may want to read or re-read their comments where they torched you and respond to them as well. It's very clear how these senior member's (GDAloha, Baller55, SDJaziKing, Sir Bishop, Rolf Torren, Waylay, Trusty Harilip) feel in regards to your obvious agenda here. These highly respected member's called you out for doing this exact same thing (shilling) about a year ago, yet here you are, continuing your shill agenda. The problem is, you're not very good at it.
I am new here but I'm not new to this hobby. I've been following this place for about 2 years now. All of the hoopla surrounding VIP brought me out of my shell. Up until my experiences at VIP, I've never had experiences anything close to what they've been provided me. Personally, there is no need for me to go anywhere else now. I'm sorry if I may have offended you and struck a nerve for posting what I feel the truth to be. It isn't personal. Happy mongering.
Please, read these again, then get back to me.How can I be a shill when I have reviewed over 100 girls that are not affiliated w Cris? Am I a shill for all of them?
How can I be a shill when I have reviewed over 100 girls that are not affiliated w Cris? Am I a shill for all of them?Don't sweat it. The smarter readers can determine who is shilling, white knighting, bull shitting and even if they can't, they'll figure it out at the point of action and hopefully set the record straight.
Personally, I suspect the more adamant posts are from boyfriends or pussy whipped mongers chiming in. I'm with the other dude that mentioned grabbing the popcorn and enjoy the entertainment.
MaximusKahn
03-05-22, 12:14
One day, Bill had a monger urge and went to the spa Asia Zill.
There he got to fill a beauty named Jill who gave him such an amazing thrill.
Bill told Phil, and so Phil went to see Jill at Asia Zill.
But Jill was busy, so Phil got to see Lill who was as cute as Jill.
Phil put the drill to Lill and found she had such skill that he too felt a thrill.
Bill posted his thrill with Jill, and Phil shared the skill he found with Lill.
Will read the posts and went to see Jill or Lill at Asia Zill.
Will got Jill and thought she was ill because she lied there completely still which lacked any thrill as he worked his drill.
Will prefers to drill his favorite girl Yill at Asian Dill for an amazing thrill and posts for all to read.
Will was not happy with Jill at Asia Zill, because he got nill, and said Bill must be a Shill.
Bill read the post were Will said he was a Shill and said WTF?
Phil told Bill to just swallow the pill and go back and drill Jill for another thrill and not bother with Will.
Gill then posts that Yill at Asian Dill was a thrill, and Will agrees, so Gill is not a Shill to Will, but Bill is.
Bill and Phil go fill and drill Jill and Lill for the thrill and the skill again, and then go get a few beers and laugh.
I think the next day Bill and Phil played golf.
(If anything here resembles anything or anyone, it is by pure coincidence, or the result of a guilty conscience. The names have been changed to hide the guilty and protect the innocent, it is for entertainment purposes only. If you find it humorous I'm glad, if you take it too seriously I think that is sad).
The DudeInSd
03-05-22, 13:32
One day, Bill had a monger urge and went to the spa Asia Zill.
There he got to fill a beauty named Jill who gave him such an amazing thrill.
Bill told Phil, and so Phil went to see Jill at Asia Zill.
But Jill was busy, so Phil got to see Lill who was as cute as Jill.
Phil put the drill to Lill and found she had such skill that he too felt a thrill.
Bill posted his thrill with Jill, and Phil shared the skill he found with Lill.
Will read the posts and went to see Jill or Lill at Asia Zill.
Will got Jill and thought she was ill because she lied there completely still which lacked any thrill as he worked his drill.Love it, thanks for the laugh.
Keep on rockin' in the Free world.
RChangDatyKing
03-06-22, 21:17
Personally, I suspect the more adamant posts are from boyfriends or pussy whipped mongers chiming in. I'm with the other dude that mentioned grabbing the popcorn and enjoy the entertainment.Hell yeah, I like to think I'm their boyfriends when we are passionately making love; and they continue to think of me even days after our sessions. Thanks for all the I miss you texts ladies. LOL.
Pussy whipped- I think we all are, otherwise why would we be paying so much money when we all can be dating a civi girl. Also I believed some of us are probably married or in relationships. Yes, I’m a little pussy whipped. Lol
RChangDatyKing
03-06-22, 21:57
Yep, I am definitely pussy whipped. I met a masseuse at a nonFS spa and think I'm in love. LOL. I saw her twice yesterday, and already saw her again this afternoon. She couldn't do multiple hours earlier because she had other appointments, but I have another appointment with her later this evening. She gives the most sensuous HJ for my first appointment. My second appointment she let me massaged her beautiful body. Her boobs are amazing. Earlier today we did some light kissing. Baby steps but I'm loving the slow getting to "know you" moments. This might be my favorite UTR yet. Hell yeah, I'm pussy whipped.
Yep, I am definitely pussy whipped. I met a masseuse at a nonFS spa and think I'm in love. LOL. I saw her twice yesterday, and already saw her again this afternoon. She couldn't do multiple hours earlier because she had other appointments, but I have another appointment with her later this evening. She gives the most sensuous HJ for my first appointment. My second appointment she let me massaged her beautiful body. Her boobs are amazing. Earlier today we did some light kissing. Baby steps but I'm loving the slow getting to "know you" moments. This might be my favorite UTR yet. Hell yeah, I'm pussy whipped.Baby steps til she pops the question batting her eyes at you!
"Baby" or "Honey" can I borrow $500?
Than she whispers we go all the way next time, than never getting all the way?
Are you going to do it?
DragonWolf
03-06-22, 23:53
Yep, I am definitely pussy whipped. I met a masseuse at a nonFS spa and think I'm in love. LOL. I saw her twice yesterday, and already saw her again this afternoon. She couldn't do multiple hours earlier because she had other appointments, but I have another appointment with her later this evening. She gives the most sensuous HJ for my first appointment. My second appointment she let me massaged her beautiful body. Her boobs are amazing. Earlier today we did some light kissing. Baby steps but I'm loving the slow getting to "know you" moments. This might be my favorite UTR yet. Hell yeah, I'm pussy whipped.Stupid shit in SD has me seeking Fun Times in TJ. LOL.
Saw an old favorite here in southern SD (AMP FS massage), and while it was pretty decent, it actually didn't meet expectations and didn't compare to sooo many of the other sessions w / her.
So I hopped the border and had one dud of a session, followed-up by an awesome session that I extended for another hour, because I couldn't let her go before getting inside her one last time (until next time). This 2nd provider, if she were any better looking and w / o kids, could very possibly have me whipped. She's definitely on my to-do (again) list. *whip-crack off in the distance*.
RChangDatyKing
03-07-22, 02:00
Baby steps til she pops the question batting her eyes at you!
"Baby" or "Honey" can I borrow $500?
Than she whispers we go all the way next time, than never getting all the way?
Are you going to do it?First lesson in hobbying- Never loan money to an escort, especially one that gives promises that next time will be better; let's get dinner, etc.
I did say my new friend is an UTR nonFS masseuse and not a GPS escort. LOL. Yeah this hottie didn't even want the tip the second appointment that I gave her a massage so she's not a GPS want-to-be escort. She's definitely an UTR candidate. LOL.
ADwightSchrute
03-07-22, 06:44
Hell yeah, I like to think I'm their boyfriends when we are passionately making love; and they continue to think of me even days after our sessions. Thanks for all the I miss you texts ladies. LOL.
Pussy whipped- I think we all are, otherwise why would we be paying so much money when we all can be dating a civi girl. Also I believed some of us are probably married or in relationships. Yes, Im a little pussy whipped. LolCivi pussy can have lots of baggage with it. Sometimes it's the thrill of an AMP girl that helps get you off. You get to do things you normally wouldn't do and won't be judge for it per day. Sometimes we all just want a different flavor, like a kid at ice cream store "I just want to try different flavors out. ".
MaximusKahn
03-07-22, 11:05
The providers are in the business to make money.
If you visit a lot, it probably follows that you spend a lot, and if you also treat them very nicely they are very likely going to give you special privileges.
They'll be happy to play girl friend, and let you play boyfriend. You are a good steady source of money, and you treat them right, what's not to like about you?
If you visit them so much and treat them so well that they won't take your money, or give you money back because you tipped "too much" well I say good for you.
If you share contact information, it would only follow that they would want to have you come back and would send you texts to bring you back. Wouldn't you call a good customer back who brings money to your business?
It would not be a surprise to learn that many of the women are searching for their American White Knight, so watch out for the ones who get too close.
What ever your impression of your relationship with the girls, thanks to all the mongers who spend their time and money with the girls and share their experience in these forums.
AeroStartC
03-07-22, 11:07
First lesson in hobbying- Never loan money to an escort, especially one that gives promises that next time will be better; let's get dinner, etc.We learn it, we teach it, and we preach it. Then wham, a few good times with a nice looking, down on her luck girl, and we do it again.
Meeting a nice looking gal outside one of the local hotel chains, led to her phone number. Shortly after that, voice and text started flowing, and our first "date" was set up. It went perfectly, and she mentioned that it was her first time going to a hotel with a guy that she had just met who was able to help her out. I found that hard to believe, but accepted. A second meeting followed, and this was better than the first.
I was out of town for a few days, and she wanted me to send her some cash via Venmo or CashApp. Red Flag. I told her that I did not use either, and was unable. She thanked me anyway. After my return, we had plans to meet again. She came up with a need for the cash that I would have paid her, needing it right away. She promised a friend was going to join us the next day in return for my advancing the cash to her. So I advanced (gave) her the cash, and immediately had a bad feeling about all of this. She never did show up, and does not answer her texts or phone now.
As in all endeavors that take years to perfect, mistakes will be made along the way. Many endeavors are very successful, but if you forget the basics, you can be hurt. The only difference between a novice and an experienced veteran, is that the vet knows how to cover up his mistakes better. LOL. Enjoy the journey gentlemen, it is a great ride.
It takes a real man to admit they're pussy whipped. LOL! JK bro. But seriously, some of the posts are obvious who's who.
Personally I do date civi's but love women and variety. From my perspective I'm not paying these working girls to be my 1 hour or more girlfriend. I'm paying them so I can walk away no strings attached.
Stay thirsty my friend!
Hell yeah, I like to think I'm their boyfriends when we are passionately making love; and they continue to think of me even days after our sessions. Thanks for all the I miss you texts ladies. LOL.
Pussy whipped- I think we all are, otherwise why would we be paying so much money when we all can be dating a civi girl. Also I believed some of us are probably married or in relationships. Yes, Im a little pussy whipped. Lol
No baby, but if you're ever lonely and need some good loving, I'm always here for you. Booyah!
BTW: "No" in Mandarin is pronounced Bu or Boo.
Baby steps til she pops the question batting her eyes at you!
"Baby" or "Honey" can I borrow $500?
Than she whispers we go all the way next time, than never getting all the way?
Are you going to do it?
DragonWolf
03-08-22, 05:25
First lesson in hobbying- Never loan money to an escort, especially one that gives promises that next time will be better; let's get dinner, etc.
I did say my new friend is an UTR nonFS masseuse and not a GPS escort. LOL. Yeah this hottie didn't even want the tip the second appointment that I gave her a massage so she's not a GPS want-to-be escort. She's definitely an UTR candidate. LOL.I learned this lesson the hard way, way back in the day w / strippers. Never loan them money based on almost certainly empty promises. If they want to earn it right away, then let's talk, otherwise GTFO w / that nonsense.
I learned this lesson the hard way, way back in the day w / strippers. Never loan them money based on almost certainly empty promises. If they want to earn it right away, then let's talk, otherwise GTFO w / that nonsense.With any girl in the sex industry, that I see outside of their work environment, I make it clear that I am not a sugar daddy. This usually leads to fun conversation, but if not the red flags start waving and that girl becomes history or strictly a pleasurable business relationship. BTW I never do loans for family, friends and especially girls I hardly know. Loans break many relationships so best not to "loan" anyone you care about money.
With both spa girls or civies, if they "expect" money or luxuries from me, our friendship ends. Before anyone starts chiming in that's what all girls are looking for, I've made many long lasting friendships with both working girls and civies that insist on paying for dining, buying me things, exchanging red envelopes, etc. Just like regular friends that treat and care for each other, because we are true friends or FWB's (Friends with benefits) as I like to think of them.
On the sly side, it depends on the girl. If I sense a girl is waving their pussy carrot in front of me, I can wave that cash carrot in front of them taking advantage of their charms while never actually spending any real cash. Tit for tat.
MaximusKahn
03-09-22, 10:53
According to the Urban Dictionary, being pussy whipped is when a man loses his testicles to a woman.
A situation where he allows her to walk all over him, and control every aspect of his life.
Liking, enjoying, and seeking pussy doesn't make a man Pussy whipped.
Just being a Monger or Hobbiest is evidence enough you are not pussy whipped.
According to the Urban Dictionary, being pussy whipped is when a man loses his testicles to a woman.
A situation where he allows her to walk all over him, and control every aspect of his life.
Liking, enjoying, and seeking pussy doesn't make a man Pussy whipped.
Just being a Monger or Hobbiest is evidence enough you are not pussy whipped.Anytime I see the term pussy whooped, I imaging being surrounded by beautiful women's vaginas, and these women air humping my face. Then I get angry at myself for having 1 tongue!
Sorry. Moving on.
Fellas can we agree that the drama between the various FS spas is insane? The constant shilling on here by users with 1-2 posts is ridiculous- in some cases it's clearly a massage girl or MMS making the posts under new accounts. Now we have screenshots in the massage forum of people reporting Spas to the police!? What the fuck is going on? Is there some way we can limit the posting ability of new members or something because it's getting out of control.
MilfLoverr
03-17-22, 22:11
Fellas can we agree that the drama between the various FS spas is insane? The constant shilling on here by users with 1-2 posts is ridiculous- in some cases it's clearly a massage girl or MMS making the posts under new accounts. Now we have screenshots in the massage forum of people reporting Spas to the police!? What the fuck is going on? Is there some way we can limit the posting ability of new members or something because it's getting out of control.I agree it's ridiculous. I feel like it's very hard to tell what's real and what's not anymore. I get where you're coming from with limiting posts but at the same time don't. Not all of us are acting a fool on here. Yes I haven't contributed a ton but I also don't partake very often.
RolfTorren
03-17-22, 23:46
Agreed. I must have missed the pics calling out spas but the shill first time posters with limited English are a dead give away. Its actually working against them in my opinion. When I see a post like that, I now know what provider to avoid.
Fellas can we agree that the drama between the various FS spas is insane? The constant shilling on here by users with 1-2 posts is ridiculous- in some cases it's clearly a massage girl or MMS making the posts under new accounts. Now we have screenshots in the massage forum of people reporting Spas to the police!? What the fuck is going on? Is there some way we can limit the posting ability of new members or something because it's getting out of control.
ADwightSchrute
03-18-22, 05:15
Agreed. I must have missed the pics calling out spas but the shill first time posters with limited English are a dead give away. Its actually working against them in my opinion. When I see a post like that, I now know what provider to avoid.Exactly. Couldn't have said it better.
RChangDatyKing
03-18-22, 10:29
I agree with both. There are guys on here that don't post much at all and I exchange information with them daily because I know their intel are solid. We all have to start somewhere with our first post so why not review a beauty from a top spa. I'm not going to a granny shop and post about that for my first review. We just need to see if these first time posters continue contributing or if they are just fakes. The fakes are probably senior members with multiple handles going at once. These are the yahoos I'm more suspicious about because they have agendas. You can see it in their reviews (how they write, make certain references) how they take slight jabs at other spas when reviewing a certain establishment or girl.
Maybe some reviews are written by the girls or MMS, but if it stops after just one review then we'll know. If reviews continue to flow in like for Petra, Kimberly6969, Mina, Eva, Mia then we know the girls are real.
It's not the name of the spa that makes me frequent an establishment. I will go where my favorites are or where I know the hotties are going. It's also how I'm treated as a client. Does the establishment do bait and switch, short me on time, etc.
I just ignore the drama!
I agree it's ridiculous. I feel like it's very hard to tell what's real and what's not anymore. I get where you're coming from with limiting posts but at the same time don't. Not all of us are acting a fool on here. Yes I haven't contributed a ton but I also don't partake very often.
Fellas can we agree that the drama between the various FS spas is insane? The constant shilling on here by users with 1-2 posts is ridiculous- in some cases it's clearly a massage girl or MMS making the posts under new accounts. Now we have screenshots in the massage forum of people reporting Spas to the police!? What the fuck is going on? Is there some way we can limit the posting ability of new members or something because it's getting out of control.
InstinctGoku
03-18-22, 15:10
I dislike how providers from PD have GPS, meanwhile you can get top notch looks, service, and quality from another site.
DreamFreez
03-18-22, 15:19
What do you think about the guy who said his wife found out and she reported MP's to SD Cops? His Username is PutsyLover.
His first few posts are of him visiting a few MP's, his English in some of the posts is good, and on some it is broken!
Is he stealing other's reviews to build up authenticity?
I dislike how providers from PD have GPS, meanwhile you can get top notch looks, service, and quality from another site.Agree 100%. Providers that jump ship to PD always increase their rates and mysteriously get tons of positive reviews from bullshit accounts. I think PD is trash and just use it to see who is in town. I try to reach on other sites where GPS isn't as rampant. If I don't get grandfathered in at the old rate (for ladies I previously have seen) it's tough for me to justify repeating at GPS rates. Too many options available to cave in to GPS.
Agree 100%. Providers that jump ship to PD always increase their rates and mysteriously get tons of positive reviews from bullshit accounts. I think PD is trash and just use it to see who is in town. I try to reach on other sites where GPS isn't as rampant. If I don't get grandfathered in at the old rate (for ladies I previously have seen) it's tough for me to justify repeating at GPS rates. Too many options available to cave in to GPS.But GPS is a choice they make as an initial client screening tool. Guys with money to burn don't think twice and leave tips too.
DeeeezNutss
03-18-22, 17:04
Can't we just get a long and stop the drama? Guess this possibly impossible but just wishful thinking. Guess that's part of being in this type of business, haters going to hate.
I agree with both. There are guys on here that don't post much at all and I exchange information with them daily because I know their intel are solid. We all have to start somewhere with our first post so why not review a beauty from a top spa. I'm not going to a granny shop and post about that for my first review. We just need to see if these first time posters continue contributing or if they are just fakes. The fakes are probably senior members with multiple handles going at once. These are the yahoos I'm more suspicious about because they have agendas. You can see it in their reviews (how they write, make certain references) how they take slight jabs at other spas when reviewing a certain establishment or girl.
Maybe some reviews are written by the girls or MMS, but if it stops after just one review then we'll know. If reviews continue to flow in like for Petra, Kimberly6969, Mina, Eva, Mia then we know the girls are real.
It's not the name of the spa that makes me frequent an establishment. I will go where my favorites are or where I know the hotties are going. It's also how I'm treated as a client. Does the establishment do bait and switch, short me on time, etc.
I just ignore the drama!
Rrichards619
03-18-22, 19:33
Fellas can we agree that the drama between the various FS spas is insane? The constant shilling on here by users with 1-2 posts is ridiculous- in some cases it's clearly a massage girl or MMS making the posts under new accounts. Now we have screenshots in the massage forum of people reporting Spas to the police!? What the fuck is going on? Is there some way we can limit the posting ability of new members or something because it's getting out of control.Seriously. It's made the forum unusable. I just want a nice massage with a rub and tug. Not a well known ***** house where I'll probably get arrested.
RChangDatyKing
03-19-22, 15:09
Can't we just get a long and stop the drama? Guess this possibly impossible but just wishful thinking. Guess that's part of being in this type of business, haters going to hate.I hear you bro! I know some speculate that spas are intentionally sabotaging one another but I personally don't believe that is true. If they / spas bring negative attention to one spa by making reports to LE I would think it could potentially bring the same attention to lots more spas including their own. So I don't think it's spas doing this to others.
I have heard and do believe SO, or GF have made reports to LE when they catch their SOs going to spas for sexual services.
I personally think it's Ahole mongers that wants freebies or extras from the girls and spas owners and when they don't get what they want they make demands for their money back or post shit on review sites to deter other from going, that's why many of these posts are from first time posters or even seasoned mongers with multiple handles.
Yes, I hear you bro. Why can’t we all get along! Post your reviews (honest, balanced, unbiased, positive or negative). Support who your favorite girls, spas or establishments are- no need to take jabs at other spas.
Just my 2 cents.
Some spas are simply posting negative reports or comments towards their perceived competitors. They are definitely not reporting to the police. L as this would also put themselves at risk.
I hear you bro! I know some speculate that spas are intentionally sabotaging one another but I personally don't believe that is true. If they / spas bring negative attention to one spa by making reports to LE I would think it could potentially bring the same attention to lots more spas including their own. So I don't think it's spas doing this to others.
I have heard and do believe SO, or GF have made reports to LE when they catch their SOs going to spas for sexual services.
I personally think it's Ahole mongers that wants freebies or extras from the girls and spas owners and when they don't get what they want they make demands for their money back or post shit on review sites to deter other from going, that's why many of these posts are from first time posters or even seasoned mongers with multiple handles.
Yes, I hear you bro. Why cant we all get along! Post your reviews (honest, balanced, unbiased, positive or negative). Support who your favorite girls, spas or establishments are- no need to take jabs at other spas.
Just my 2 cents.
First of all Max, I agree with most of your posts and enjoy reading someone with the same mindset when it comes to this hobby. But I'll have to disagree with your posting of the definition "Pussy Whipped. " As some have already confessed to being PW'd they are certainly not the definition, rather referring to a certain level or degree of being PW'd.
When I'm reading some reports, I'm thinking this guy's a definite 10 on the PW scale or maybe only a 5. Just saying.
According to the Urban Dictionary, being pussy whipped is when a man loses his testicles to a woman.
A situation where he allows her to walk all over him, and control every aspect of his life.
Liking, enjoying, and seeking pussy doesn't make a man Pussy whipped.
Just being a Monger or Hobbiest is evidence enough you are not pussy whipped.
RChangDatyKing
03-20-22, 00:36
I agree with both. There are guys on here that don't post much at all and I exchange information with them daily because I know their intel are solid. We all have to start somewhere with our first post so why not review a beauty from a top spa. I'm not going to a granny shop and post about that for my first review. We just need to see if these first time posters continue contributing or if they are just fakes. The fakes are probably senior members with multiple handles going at once. These are the yahoos I'm more suspicious about because they have agendas. You can see it in their reviews (how they write, make certain references) how they take slight jabs at other spas when reviewing a certain establishment or girl.
Maybe some reviews are written by the girls or MMS, but if it stops after just one review then we'll know. If reviews continue to flow in like for Petra, Kimberly6969, Mina, Eva, Mia then we know the girls are real.
It's not the name of the spa that makes me frequent an establishment. I will go where my favorites are or where I know the hotties are going. It's also how I'm treated as a client. Does the establishment do bait and switch, short me on time, etc.
I just ignore the drama!
Some spas are simply posting negative reports or comments towards their perceived competitors. They are definitely not reporting to the police. L as this would also put themselves at risk.Yes, I initially wrote in one of my posts (above) that I believed some posts are from girls or MMS from competitor spas. Yeah I don't think they are reporting to the poo poo (popo. Lol)
RChangDatyKing
03-20-22, 00:39
First of all Max, I agree with most of your posts and enjoy reading someone with the same mindset when it comes to this hobby. But I'll have to disagree with your posting of the definition "Pussy Whipped. " As some have already confessed to being PW'd they are certainly not the definition, rather referring to a certain level or degree of being PW'd.
When I'm reading some reports, I'm thinking this guy's a definite 10 on the PW scale or maybe only a 5. Just saying.I'm a 10 on the PW scale for all the lovely ladies. The tastier the better. LOL.
Sir Bishop
03-20-22, 01:44
First of all Max, I agree with most of your posts and enjoy reading someone with the same mindset when it comes to this hobby. But I'll have to disagree with your posting of the definition "Pussy Whipped. " As some have already confessed to being PW'd they are certainly not the definition, rather referring to a certain level or degree of being PW'd.
When I'm reading some reports, I'm thinking this guy's a definite 10 on the PW scale or maybe only a 5. Just saying.
I'm a 10 on the PW scale for all the lovely ladies. The tastier the better. LOL.Wow! I'm gone a week and you guys have just given me some crazy new ideas how playing with pussy! Pussy Whip Cream all around the pussy while I slurp up the rum pouring down from her fucking awesome boobs! At least 800 calories and who gives a f**k if you get all the rum because you're lapping up all that cream. If you miss some of her cream, spread it on your balls and have her slurp up the rest. Hell Yea!! I'm down for Pussy Whip!!
DeeeezNutss
03-20-22, 02:31
Haha this just made my day! But welcome back man!
Wow! I'm gone a week and you guys have just given me some crazy new ideas how playing with pussy! Pussy Whip Cream all around the pussy while I slurp up the rum pouring down from her fucking awesome boobs! At least 800 calories and who gives a f**k if you get all the rum because you're lapping up all that cream. If you miss some of her cream, spread it on your balls and have her slurp up the rest. Hell Yea!! I'm down for Pussy Whip!!
Is this recent? When anything is good to be true it probably is.I'm told this past Thursday morning. IMO, this spa was more hype than reality.
It will be nice to see this San Diego massage forum return to normal and this spas friends, paid or influenced reports no longer dominating this forum. Some other spas will also no longer need to do similar.
Wow! I'm gone a week and you guys have just given me some crazy new ideas how playing with pussy! Pussy Whip Cream all around the pussy while I slurp up the rum pouring down from her fucking awesome boobs! At least 800 calories and who gives a f**k if you get all the rum because you're lapping up all that cream. If you miss some of her cream, spread it on your balls and have her slurp up the rest. Hell Yea!! I'm down for Pussy Whip!!BevMo has my new favorite find. It looks like readiwhip, but it is a nondairy vodka shot. Comes in Mocha and vanilla.
RChangDatyKing
03-21-22, 18:32
I'm told this past Thursday morning. IMO, this spa was more hype than reality.
It will be nice to see this San Diego massage forum return to normal and this spas friends, paid or influenced reports no longer dominating this forum. Some other spas will also no longer need to do similar."This spa's friends?" I'll say it; I'm assuming you're talking about VIP? Are you implying that all the reviews for VIP are written by their friends? The reviews for VIP are written by so many mongers and I am one of them. I visited them after seeing a positive review and continued going there because they had "young and beautiful" girls as advertised. The only two FS spas in San Diego IMO that have consistently brought young and beautiful girls has been 108 and VIP thats why they both are being reviewed and talked about daily. 108 and VIP are dominating the forum because they deserve to be talked about.
I don't think the forum will ever be back to normal because there will still be senior members with multiple usernames / handles that want to promote their agendas, spas, establishments, independents.
Just my 2 cents!
PoonTangJohnny
03-21-22, 21:20
"This spa's friends?" I'll say it; I'm assuming you're talking about VIP? Are you implying that all the reviews for VIP are written by their friends? The reviews for VIP are written by so many mongers and I am one of them. I visited them after seeing a positive review and continued going there because they had "young and beautiful" girls as advertised. The only two FS spas in San Diego IMO that have consistently brought young and beautiful girls has been 108 and VIP thats why they both are being reviewed and talked about daily. 108 and VIP are dominating the forum because they deserve to be talked about.Thank you! I for one, really appreciate having an intelligent voice of reason defending VIP and us hobbyists from such allegations. You are without question 1 of the most respected, highly reputable member's on this forum, and your word's, speak volumes. The suggestion, that all of the reviews I've written for several of these hot VIP girls /3 somes, and all the glowing stellar reviews written by so many other reputable member's / peers here, have all been falsely exaggerated or made up, is beyond delusional. I'm not married, nor do I have anything to feel ashamed of or hide from. Hell, I'm actually really proud of all the hot fun porn like sexual exploits and 3 somes I've had with so many of these amazing VIP starlets.
I don't think the forum will ever be back to normal because there will still be senior members with multiple usernames / handles that want to promote their agendas, spas, establishments, independents.I can name 4 usernames along with this person whom you quoted, whom I'd be willing to wager a large amount of money, are quite possibly, all the same person. With all these false allegations swirling about VIP, it's only fair for the both sides to be able to cast any and all aspersions, IMHO. I'd like to know if this is fair game and we can have this discussion out in the SS thread?
And to set the record straight: VIP Spring Valley, was Not raided recently (as previously posted), nor were they cited. They weren't even opened that day. Period. That, is a Fact! And if anyone here still feels the need to continue making more of these allegations up, then show proof / evidence of the written citation, which we both know you can't, because it doesn't exist.
DeeeezNutss
03-21-22, 21:22
I mean if repeat customers that keep goin to their favorite spas wouldn't that kind of consider them as kind of a friend? IMO LOL. But I do agree with RCDK, the reviews speak for themselves good or bad but I just don't understand why members have to have multiple accounts and put one spa down. This is a first I've seen people stating things about other spas. What happened to just giving reviews and info so that other mongers can experience that certain spa? Like I said before, can't we all just get along and enjoy this hobby?
Just my 2 cents as well!
"This spa's friends?" I'll say it; I'm assuming you're talking about VIP? Are you implying that all the reviews for VIP are written by their friends? The reviews for VIP are written by so many mongers and I am one of them. I visited them after seeing a positive review and continued going there because they had "young and beautiful" girls as advertised. The only two FS spas in San Diego IMO that have consistently brought young and beautiful girls has been 108 and VIP thats why they both are being reviewed and talked about daily. 108 and VIP are dominating the forum because they deserve to be talked about.
I don't think the forum will ever be back to normal because there will still be senior members with multiple usernames / handles that want to promote their agendas, spas, establishments, independents.
Just my 2 cents!
RChangDatyKing
03-21-22, 22:39
I mean if repeat customers that keep goin to their favorite spas wouldn't that kind of consider them as kind of a friend? IMO LOL. But I do agree with RCDK, the reviews speak for themselves good or bad but I just don't understand why members have to have multiple accounts and put one spa down. This is a first I've seen people stating things about other spas. What happened to just giving reviews and info so that other mongers can experience that certain spa? Like I said before, can't we all just get along and enjoy this hobby?
Just my 2 cents as well!Bro, you are a freakin genius. Yes, I guess I am friends with all the lovely ladies I've seen at VIP, 108,7, Diamond, MRC, Pines, KK, SDAG, FEC, Sakura, Paradise, MBC, Massage Oasis to name a few LOL.
ADwightSchrute
03-22-22, 07:16
I mean if repeat customers that keep goin to their favorite spas wouldn't that kind of consider them as kind of a friend? IMO LOL. But I do agree with RCDK, the reviews speak for themselves good or bad but I just don't understand why members have to have multiple accounts and put one spa down. This is a first I've seen people stating things about other spas. What happened to just giving reviews and info so that other mongers can experience that certain spa? Like I said before, can't we all just get along and enjoy this hobby?
Just my 2 cents as well!
Bro, you are a freakin genius. Yes, I guess I am friends with all the lovely ladies I've seen at VIP, 108,7, Diamond, MRC, Pines, KK, SDAG, FEC, Sakura, Paradise, MBC, Massage Oasis to name a few LOL.Love the 2 cents. We are all fellow mongers whom should for good and bad give an honest review. If spas produce young and excellent talent then of course we will keep coming back and posting great reviews. It's kinda like Yelp but for our Juniors. We can "Delp" each other out so we can enjoy our visits. As always we should take everyone's review with a grain of salt.
We're in beautiful Sunny San Diego and I'm enjoying the beach with a lady friend. Yoga by the beach, 11:00 AM daily at Pacific Beach. Cute young college girls conduct this donation based yoga class. Super chill and go at your own pace. No judgment, unlike some of you. Not sure why you keep calling me out as I think we have more in common than this one difference in opinion about a specific spa.
A simple look at a members history and their posts is a pretty good indication of who is fake and which spa they favor. Though you claim to be friends of all spas, it's clear which spa you defend as I merely mentioned another popular spa for those that may want to save a little gas and time of driving out to Spring Valley and I'm accused of discouraging VIP customers. Where are you when the other spas you claim to be friends with are slandered? And let's be honest, we all know which spa (s) are being over hyped.
Quite frankly, I'm surprised you're so adamantly defending this spa as it doesn't seem like your type of place. Currently half hour quickies pumping out around a 100 mongers daily. Good for VIP and I know many spas are jealous hence 1-time smear posts obviously from competitors.
Though some of you seem to think I'm condemning a spa, that can't be furthest from the truth. I like to think of myself as a "white knight" for all the spas and girls and some may recall my defense for VIP on a couple of occasions. E. g. When a bogus one time poster tried fear tactics to discourage us from going to said spas. I got a "thank you" PM from VIP and offered other assistance that I thought they would appreciate. But they're a proud group, though my assistance is always available to them if they ask. With the exception of shilling.
Mongers that share favorable reports is what this forum is all about and if they embellish or feel the need to share and relive their awesome experiences with a short novel, that's cool. It makes for great bathroom reading.
But the mongers that offer their shill services for payment, shame on you! I've been asked and refused. Though sometimes also offered a pass on the house fee, I also refuse. However some spas will not except my money so I simply pass that on to the girl that services me. And that my friends is how you develop integrity and trust with these spas and working girls.
I understand spas do not like to see anything negative written about them and I've gotten a little heat from a few, but they always come to realize my true intent as I share info about bad customers and LE warnings.
I have plenty more info to share, but in the grand scheme of things, I'll kick back and let the forum normalize itself.
You boys stay thirsty and always treat these working girls with the respect and appreciation they deserve!
I bow to the king.
"This spa's friends?" I'll say it; I'm assuming you're talking about VIP? Are you implying that all the reviews for VIP are written by their friends? The reviews for VIP are written by so many mongers and I am one of them. I visited them after seeing a positive review and continued going there because they had "young and beautiful" girls as advertised. The only two FS spas in San Diego IMO that have consistently brought young and beautiful girls has been 108 and VIP thats why they both are being reviewed and talked about daily. 108 and VIP are dominating the forum because they deserve to be talked about.
I don't think the forum will ever be back to normal because there will still be senior members with multiple usernames / handles that want to promote their agendas, spas, establishments, independents.
Just my 2 cents!
MaximusKahn
03-22-22, 20:15
Ryan, I appreciate your positive influence in the hobby and the forum and enjoy your posts as well.
No doubt I like your interpretation of PW much better than the formal definition. PussyWhip by DeeeezNutss is interesting, but I really like Dwykz619's view of "Pussy Whooped" best!
Sometimes I just get the urge to be the Devil's Advocate, and as I said, by the definition of the Urban D. Nobody in here is PW'd, but I have to agree with you, by many other interpretations of PW, we all are PW'd to some degree.
First of all Max, I agree with most of your posts and enjoy reading someone with the same mindset when it comes to this hobby. But I'll have to disagree with your posting of the definition "Pussy Whipped. " As some have already confessed to being PW'd they are certainly not the definition, rather referring to a certain level or degree of being PW'd.
When I'm reading some reports, I'm thinking this guy's a definite 10 on the PW scale or maybe only a 5. Just saying.
I'm sure some of the posts are legit and some are fake / shills but damn when for weeks at a time the entire massage section is dominated with posts about one spot then ya that is sketchy.
The DudeInSd
03-23-22, 22:50
We're in beautiful Sunny San Diego and I'm enjoying the beach with a lady friend. Yoga by the beach, 11:00 AM daily at Pacific Beach. Cute young college girls conduct this donation based yoga class. Super chill and go at your own pace. No judgment, unlike some of you. Not sure why you keep calling me out as I think we have more in common than this one difference in opinion about a specific spa.
A simple look at a members history and their posts is a pretty good indication of who is fake and which spa they favor. Though you claim to be friends of all spas, it's clear which spa you defend as I merely mentioned another popular spa for those that may want to save a little gas and time of driving out to Spring Valley and I'm accused of discouraging VIP customers. Where are you when the other spas you claim to be friends with are slandered? And let's be honest, we all know which spa (s) are being over hyped.
Quite frankly, I'm surprised you're so adamantly defending this spa as it doesn't seem like your type of place. Currently half hour quickies pumping out around a 100 mongers daily. Good for VIP and I know many spas are jealous hence 1-time smear posts obviously from competitors.Thanks Ryan you are spot on. 650 spas in San Diego. Comical how one massage parlor section can be focused on 1 spa.
Keep up the genuine reviews on many different spas.
Cheers.
Yup, we've disagreed on a few spas and girls but are thick skinned and mature enough not to attempt to smear each other over disagreements in tastes in women or spas we support.
I'll leave it that. Monger on!
Thanks Ryan you are spot on. 650 spas in San Diego. Comical how one massage parlor section can be focused on 1 spa.
Keep up the genuine reviews on many different spas.
Cheers.
For some of you players that are able to lure one of these Asian dolls out of the spa, a way to an Asian girls pussy is through their stomach. Food plays such a major role in Asian culture representing more than just sustenance. There's a lot of symbolism, health and fortune associated with the foods Asians indulge. For instance noodles are many times served at birthdays symbolizing long life and prosperity. Animal organs are thought to enhance the persons same organs. E. g. Animal brains to increase intelligence and animal's penis to. . . Well you know.
One of the most popular and reveled Chinese dining experiences is hot pots whether at home or at restaurants. Many of these girls are from the LA area and love a hot pot restaurant called Shancheng Lameizi Hot Pot. A new one just opened in the Kearny Mesa area a few months ago and I'm told it's better than the one in LA. My tip is to avoid the weekends and go during the week for lunch. No reservations and long waits on the weekends plus very difficult parking.
You want to impress your Asian lady friends, eat what they eat if you dare. Pigs blood, intestines, brains, etc. I've tried them all to apease my dates and honestly it didn't taste bad, but I could never cone to terms with the thought of what I was putting in my mouth. Warning: Nearly every Asian girl I've been with loves spicy foods that will emasculate most men. A guaranteed experience if you've never been and I can also guarantee you that the Asian girls will love it. You're welcome.
The DudeInSd
03-24-22, 17:52
Yup, we've disagreed on a few spas and girls but are thick skinned and mature enough not to attempt to smear each other over disagreements in tastes in women or spas we support.
I'll leave it that. Monger on!Agreeing with you. It's all good brother.
The DudeInSd
03-24-22, 23:01
Oh dude, yes 100% I was chatting with a buddy who is a cop and I asked him about it. I told him about the license check and he just started laughing, he said anybody that goes and visits that place is really at risk now because they were simply setting up their next sting which will end up closing down the shop and putting all of the girls in jail along with the mongers. It was fun while it lasted.100%, we called this a long time ago. All of the cheerleaders wanted to argue but it was ultimately just a super bad operation. No lock on the front door, no security guard, no cameras, etc. etc. etc. which is why they are gone. Amateur hour!
Stay safe.
RChangDatyKing
03-25-22, 00:21
Thank you! I for one, really appreciate having an intelligent voice of reason defending VIP and us hobbyists from such allegations. You are without question 1 of the most respected, highly reputable member's on this forum, and your word's, speak volumes. The suggestion, that all of the reviews I've written for several of these hot VIP girls /3 somes, and all the glowing stellar reviews written by so many other reputable member's / peers here, have all been falsely exaggerated or made up, is beyond delusional. I'm not married, nor do I have anything to feel ashamed of or hide from. Hell, I'm actually really proud of all the hot fun porn like sexual exploits and 3 somes I've had with so many of these amazing VIP starlets.
I can name 4 usernames along with this person whom you quoted, whom I'd be willing to wager a large amount of money, are quite possibly, all the same person. With all these false allegations swirling about VIP, it's only fair for the both sides to be able to cast any and all aspersions, IMHO. I'd like to know if this is fair game and we can have this discussion out in the SS thread?
And to set the record straight: VIP Spring Valley, was Not raided recently (as previously posted), nor were they cited. They weren't even opened that day. Period. That, is a Fact! And if anyone here still feels the need to continue making more of these allegations up, then show proof / evidence of the written citation, which we both know you can't, because it doesn't exist.Hey PTJ, Happy Spring Break! There has been so many wise and intelligent mongers on the forum that have reached out to me to say how ridiculous they think some of these guys are. This will be my last post about this topic because people have read these / this guy's posts and can see their / his agendas. This monger posted about SV "raids" four time recently but instead of just saying the name of the spa he wants to discourage people from visiting and taking jabs about he'll refer to them as a "very popular spa" on the forum. When the spa had a license check visit months ago who took the lead about the license check discussion and continued to add what the spa was lacking, security cameras and doors, etc. making it risky to visit. Yes, this same monger.
I personally wouldn't waste anymore time posting on the topic because it's not worth the trouble. People can see themselves when they read the past posts from him.
Now look who's jumping on his train to back him up. A monger who MANY have already said they don't even read anything he posts or write reviews about because of all the shillings he was doing for Cris and her crew who is known for bait and switch, shorting mongers on time, etc. This other monger already lost credibility with many. Now both wants to talk about mutual respect? Where was the mutual respect for you when he called you out after you posted facts about construction work being done at VIP. His words, "So much for the under construction story. Where's Poontang-J with his bogus report when we need him. " Now they want to talk about respect when people are calling them on their crap!
VIP2 remains to be busy because many mongers support them. These guys can continue with their jabs about VIP but they will remain open.
I'm with what another respected monger posted. Just put the fakes on your ignore list.
Happy hobbying and be safe all!
MaximusKahn
03-25-22, 01:02
The Dog Bit the Hardest Yelps the Loudest.
Rock on!
. . . I'm with what another respected monger posted. Just put the fakes on your ignore list.
Happy hobbying and be safe all!Anyway here's the recipe for brownies:
1/2 cup butter.
2 eggs.
1 cup sugar.
1/3 cup cocoa powder.
2 teaspoon vanilla extract.
1/2 cup milk.
100%, we called this a long time ago. All of the cheerleaders wanted to argue but it was ultimately just a super bad operation. No lock on the front door, no security guard, no cameras, etc. etc. etc. which is why they are gone. Amateur hour!
Stay safe.If they say they're under construction for renovations and telling all their customers this, it must be true. I can't wait to see the new and improved VIP in Spring Valley, but they'll need to reestablish it on RubMaps.
Seriously, their other VIP location on fourth is so much nicer and I'm sure whatever new locations they open has got to be better than VIP SP. I'm kinda a snob clean freak.
RChangDatyKing
03-25-22, 15:56
Anyway here's the recipe for brownies:
1/2 cup butter.
2 eggs.
1 cup sugar.
1/3 cup cocoa powder.
2 teaspoon vanilla extract.
1/2 cup milk.
For some of you players that are able to lure one of these Asian dolls out of the spa, a way to an Asian girls pussy is through their stomach. Food plays such a major role in Asian culture representing more than just sustenance. There's a lot of symbolism, health and fortune associated with the foods Asians indulge. For instance noodles are many times served at birthdays symbolizing long life and prosperity. Animal organs are thought to enhance the persons same organs. E. g. Animal brains to increase intelligence and animal's penis to. . . Well you know.
One of the most popular and reveled Chinese dining experiences is hot pots whether at home or at restaurants. Many of these girls are from the LA area and love a hot pot restaurant called Shancheng Lameizi Hot Pot. A new one just opened in the Kearny Mesa area a few months ago and I'm told it's better than the one in LA. My tip is to avoid the weekends and go during the week for lunch. No reservations and long waits on the weekends plus very difficult parking.
You want to impress your Asian lady friends, eat what they eat if you dare. Pigs blood, intestines, brains, etc. I've tried them all to apease my dates and honestly it didn't taste bad, but I could never cone to terms with the thought of what I was putting in my mouth. Warning: Nearly every Asian girl I've been with loves spicy foods that will emasculate most men. A guaranteed experience if you've never been and I can also guarantee you that the Asian girls will love it. You're welcome.I rarely eat sweets, but will eat all Asian style foods.
Yes, this Hot Pot restaurant is one of the best in town. Was there the second day they opened. They have some tasty proteins not found in many restaurants. LOL.
I rarely eat sweets, but will eat all Asian style foods.
Yes, this Hot Pot restaurant is one of the best in town. Was there the second day they opened. They have some tasty proteins not found in many restaurants. LOL.I do much rather like discussing what we agree on. Peace brother!
The Dog Bit the Hardest Yelps the Loudest.
Rock on!Throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that yelps the loudest is usually the one that got hit.
Louis L'Amour.
PoonTangJohnny
03-26-22, 13:17
This will be my last comment on this Stupid Shit subject. I am here for 1 reason. Poon Tang. Nothing else.
But I do agree with RCDK, the reviews speak for themselves good or bad but I just don't understand why members have to have multiple accounts and put one spa down. This is a first I've seen people stating things about other spas. What happened to just giving reviews and info so that other mongers can experience that certain spa? I don't understand any of this either. It's so ridiculous.
We are all fellow mongers whom should for good and bad give an honest review. If spas produce young and excellent talent then of course we will keep coming back and posting great reviews.Perfectly stated.
I'm sure some of the posts are legit and some are fake / shills but damn when for weeks at a time the entire massage section is dominated with posts about one spot then ya that is sketchy.No rudeness intended, nor do I mean this as being argumentative, but I have 1 question for you. Have you ever been to VIP and have you experienced one of their 3/4 some experiences so many of the other mongers here have? If you haven't, then you don't know what you're missing out on, and maybe then you would be able to understand what all this crazy over the top hoopla is all about My reviews for VIP speak for themselves- no embellishment, just the facts.
There has been so many wise and intelligent mongers on the forum that have reached out to me to say how ridiculous they think some of these guys are. This will be my last post about this topic because people have read these / this guy's posts and can see their / his agendas.
I personally wouldn't waste anymore time posting on the topic because it's not worth the trouble. People can see themselves when they read the past posts from him.
I'm with what another respected monger posted. Just put the fakes on your ignore list.This too will be my last post on this topic. The "fakes" you mentioned; I have been added 4 of these shill accounts to my ignore list.
This will be my last comment on this Stupid Shit subject. I am here for 1 reason. Poon Tang. Nothing else. . .
Anyone here with half a brain knows why you're here. But I'll hold you to your word on who's on your ignore list and if this is your last comment on stupid shit.
Lascivious
03-30-22, 23:02
Ever think about a being in a Bob Craft situation, where the spa is recording the session? I'm not quite as famous as him-but.
Years ago I saw a girl Felicia in a downtown loft that had a smoke detector with a flashing red light on the ceiling very near the massage table. I couldn't help but wonder if there was a camera in it. Not that it stopped me from returning.
I often have that thought in the back of my mind at spas and private residences.
Someone wondered that after the a popular spa's license check, if the cops may have hidden cameras. Probably silly and it certainly didn't stop me from going. I'm sure they don't-and that the girls would know / find them if they did.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
Speaking of that, there was some STD talk. I haven't often opted for BBBJ but I did splurge a couple of times recently. I decided to test before reading the scuttlebutt. I got the all clear, just in case anyone was worried about the girls having something. No doubt that they test frequently.
NineInches
03-31-22, 09:53
Maybe that's the reason why I still come into the establishment with my shades and mask on. The only time I remove them is in the room.
I don't think there's cameras in the room since they don't want to be on camera either. I've seen some have monitors in the room and noticed the other clients leaving the rooms. No masks, some half naked to go the bathroom and some fully nude.
Geez.
Ever think about a being in a Bob Craft situation, where the spa is recording the session? I'm not quite as famous as him-but.
Years ago I saw a girl Felicia in a downtown loft that had a smoke detector with a flashing red light on the ceiling very near the massage table. I couldn't help but wonder if there was a camera in it. Not that it stopped me from returning.
I often have that thought in the back of my mind at spas and private residences.
Someone wondered that after the a popular spa's license check, if the cops may have hidden cameras. Probably silly and it certainly didn't stop me from going. I'm sure they don't-and that the girls would know / find them if they did.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
Speaking of that, there was some STD talk. I haven't often opted for BBBJ but I did splurge a couple of times recently. I decided to test before reading the scuttlebutt. I got the all clear, just in case anyone was worried about the girls having something. No doubt that they test frequently.
MaximusKahn
04-04-22, 19:49
Intelligence, common sense, and a grain of salt is all you need to enjoy these forums.
For me, 20% of the posts in these forums are interesting and useful, but the other 80% of the time they are pure humor and entertainment.
We all should be able to post what we want to post, within the rules of course. If others like our posts, great, if not, so be it. They can go read something else.
We should be able to enjoy the posts we like, and avoid the posts we don't like. All we have to do is look closely and we can tell what the post is all about and decide if it is worth our time.
If the post is filled with over the top praise about a provider, consider the monger posting it.
Do they get defensive and protective?
Do they seem to have been everywhere, done everything, and know everyone?
Do they self-promote a lot as if they are some kind of Casanova or the Lord of the AMP / Provider universe?
Do they openly disparage or start negative rumors about another Spa or provider?
Or do the posts just tell you about their experiences? Long or short, good or bad?
Naturally we want to know where to go to spend our hard earned time and money, but knowing where not to go is important too. All posts are not going to be positive recommendations. I find hearing of a bad experience to be as valuable as hearing about a great time.
You have to admit, once you weed out the junk and the BS we do get a fair amount of good intel to work with. Even the shills might point you in a good direction now and then.
All we have to do is read carefully, employ intelligence, use some common sense, and add a grain of salt, and you'll probably get a good understanding of who is posting and why. Then like a buffet, take what you want, leave the rest behind.
DrPornDawger
04-05-22, 17:04
There are stories that are worth reading and some don't give much info (wam, bam, thank you ma'am).
These stories are for entertainment use only. LOL.
Intelligence, common sense, and a grain of salt is all you need to enjoy these forums.
For me, 20% of the posts in these forums are interesting and useful, but the other 80% of the time they are pure humor and entertainment.
We all should be able to post what we want to post, within the rules of course. If others like our posts, great, if not, so be it. They can go read something else.
We should be able to enjoy the posts we like, and avoid the posts we don't like. All we have to do is look closely and we can tell what the post is all about and decide if it is worth our time.
If the post is filled with over the top praise about a provider, consider the monger posting it.
Do they get defensive and protective?
Do they seem to have been everywhere, done everything, and know everyone?
Do they self-promote a lot as if they are some kind of Casanova or the Lord of the AMP / Provider universe?
Do they openly disparage or start negative rumors about another Spa or provider?
Or do the posts just tell you about their experiences? Long or short, good or bad?
Naturally we want to know where to go to spend our hard earned time and money, but knowing where not to go is important too. All posts are not going to be positive recommendations. I find hearing of a bad experience to be as valuable as hearing about a great time.
You have to admit, once you weed out the junk and the BS we do get a fair amount of good intel to work with. Even the shills might point you in a good direction now and then.
All we have to do is read carefully, employ intelligence, use some common sense, and add a grain of salt, and you'll probably get a good understanding of who is posting and why. Then like a buffet, take what you want, leave the rest behind.
MaximusKahn
04-16-22, 11:52
The Bob Craft situation was sparked because an inspector found signs that the women were living there and they suspected human trafficking. With that being LE's motivation they set up a sting where they went in under the guise as repair men and set up their own cameras.
In SD, there are really only a few things what would focus LE on Spa in general or a spa specifically.
One is they suspect Human Trafficking. This is a huge topic and LE is tasked to address this with full force.
Another is that they are just in the regular cycle of "cracking" down on prostitution in all forms, SWalkers, Spas, Independent providers, etc. There will be an increased effort, they'll make an impact, and then move onto the next hot topic that occupies their man power. This is why we hear of sting's and busts, and guys get burned and then it's over. Till the next cycle of course. And it would suck to be "caught" in this cycle. Thus this hobby has risks.
The other is excessive business that draws the attention of the community or local businesses who complain about the activities. LE is compelled to respond to "complaints" and tips coming in from the community of suspicions behavior. So if your Spa stands out way too much and people complain, it will be under the eye of LE. A lot of "traffic" can look suspicious if it is a line of all men.
When LE does raid or bust a Spa, they're showing the community they're taking action responding to complaints or tips of illegal actions. When they speak with the providers and learn they are not being trafficked and have their credential in order it may go no further.
As for providers who have their own cameras set up. I personally don't worry about it because that feed is internal, and even if LE raids the place and reviews the feeds, I don't care because I'm not there.
Ever think about a being in a Bob Craft situation, where the spa is recording the session? I'm not quite as famous as him-but.
Years ago I saw a girl Felicia in a downtown loft that had a smoke detector with a flashing red light on the ceiling very near the massage table. I couldn't help but wonder if there was a camera in it. Not that it stopped me from returning.
I often have that thought in the back of my mind at spas and private residences.
Someone wondered that after the a popular spa's license check, if the cops may have hidden cameras. Probably silly and it certainly didn't stop me from going. I'm sure they don't-and that the girls would know / find them if they did.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
Speaking of that, there was some STD talk. I haven't often opted for BBBJ but I did splurge a couple of times recently. I decided to test before reading the scuttlebutt. I got the all clear, just in case anyone was worried about the girls having something. No doubt that they test frequently.
The DudeInSd
04-18-22, 23:05
I have been watching crimemapping website. It is very informative. It confirms the five citations issued back on 12/15/2021 at VIP in Spring Valley. What is missing is any data on any subsequent citations or arrests at that location, which has led me to question was there a second "bust" as many have reported.
Because of the lack of a second incident I have felt that the heat may have gotten to be too much and they bailed to another jurisdiction.It did not take a rocket scientist to see this coming from a mile away. I predicted it way back in the day when you have a location with homeless people sleeping on the sidewalk, drug dealers on the corner slinging crack, walls that do not go to the ceiling, No cameras, No locked door, every amateur mistake that you could possibly make.
The funny part is you had all of these cheerleaders screaming from the rooftops stating how beautiful this place was.
Dead and done.
I still feel bad for all of the customers that got bloodied and beat up and arrested because there were three separate times that the police came and ultimately they shut it down.
Mr MuffMan
04-19-22, 17:47
It did not take a rocket scientist to see this coming from a mile away. I predicted it way back in the day when you have a location with homeless people sleeping on the sidewalk, drug dealers on the corner slinging crack, walls that do not go to the ceiling, No cameras, No locked door, every amateur mistake that you could possibly make.
The funny part is you had all of these cheerleaders screaming from the rooftops stating how beautiful this place was.
Dead and done.
I still feel bad for all of the customers that got bloodied and beat up and arrested because there were three separate times that the police came and ultimately they shut it down.This is 100% incorrect. You guys are just making shit up at this point. You can read my post below, but there was not "three separate times that the police came". LE only made one visit to VIP and that was in December of last year. As I've already mentioned, I am very very close friends with one of the owners. I am friends with the other owners as well. So much so, that I've become a fixture at their owners meetings and get togethers. Just about everything I'm reading here is untrue. Nobody on this board has a fraction of the information I have about this. If it doesn't come from me, take it with a grain of salt, as it is more than likely untrue.
Mr MuffMan.
PoonTangJohnny
04-21-22, 22:30
Been with SDAG and FEC over 15 years, and never receive a text initiated from booker nor the gal. A bit skeptical about this.
I'm with Dog Rice on this one. I've been in this game long enough to distinguish between reality and fantasy.
The only time I've ever received an unsolicited communications from an AA booked was when they threatened to blacklist me if I ever wrote another negative review. That was before I used my common sense and made sure my hobby handle was different from my hobby email.
Why do you always feel the need to brag or 1 up people all the time. Wine with Cris. Sushi with this person.
Yah yah my post count is less than 10.
So, when she asks you to borrow 5 k to pay for her shopping bills I bet you give it to her.
Or, soon as a negative comment comes over you're social butterfly skills kicks in and text her I bet?
You obviously don't give a crap about your personal life since you want to give a booker your true identity info. Such as personal work info, personal emails, cdl.
So, go ahead and ride that wave I've got noting to hide cause if that day comes I guarantee you wish I never was so lazy about using personal info to bookers.
And, if you think that bookers delete info you send them.
Me too, been doing this for about 8 years and I've only been texted twice by a booker, once was when I wrote a negative review on here right after I left, I guess I was the only person who'd seen the girl so it was easy to put 2 and 2 together and yeah pretty much same thing happened, booker threatened to blacklist me and share my info with other local bookers if I didn't delete the review. Second time was a few days after cris pulled a bait and switch on me. Never been there before so I didn't know whaf cris looked like, read one of dudeinsd's reviews and figured I'd try out said girl, ended up getting cris instead (verified by people on here after I posted about it). Either way cris texts me a week after and tells me she has new a girl.
If the Dude gets busted the whole agency goes down. It's impossible not to know who he is by now.
He really should stop hyping up bad girls at the agency, and he should stop trying to sell people on Cris's girls here.Although I may be a newer member here on this platform, I have been very active partaking in this hobby off and on for a very long time and I have an extensive history of knowledge and personal experiences. My TER, Erotic Monkey, My RB, along with several other platforms (which I won't share here) validate this. I could post in practically every single sub-forum (with the exception of Streetwalkers and Gangbangs), regarding personal experiences with provider's who have been discussed here.
It's nice seeing, so many of you highly reputable, tenured member's (along with Moderator Dog Rice), call this "Shill" in question, out. I wouldn't be weighing in my $. 02 here, but for the simple fact that this shill in question, also cost me $200 and one of the worst experiences I've had in this hobby, with a girl he highly touted here, with you guessed it- Cris' agency. And yes, I'm still not happy about that!
Furthermore, if any of you were to actually spend the time, and research the "Modus operandi" of this member in question, along with Ryan, Sirjjzalot and that the Jaguar300 guy, it's crystal clear to see this 1 member and the same, agenda here on this forum, and the great lengths he will go to, to try to justify / validate, his continual, shilling; creating multiple accounts, and actually go the extreme length with his / hers attempts trying to be clever by mingling these member's support for 1 another.
If Moderator Dog Rice would like me to elaborate on this further (regarding a correlation between said member's mentioned above and a particular AMP under constant attack / sabotage), I'd more than happy to discuss this, privately.
I hope this anonymous shill here realizes (whomever he / she is), that 2 people can play dirty playing this game.
The DudeInSd
04-21-22, 23:04
So, when the le busts happens and local le and the feds come pay you a visit and take you away in metal cuffs or plastic ones and into the backseat of a car to the popo house.
Le Interviewer. We have all your texts exchanges between the house / apt in question and certain individuals.
Le Interviewer. We busted the operation and now want to go after all the customers!We really appreciate you coming into the San Diego area from the city of lost assholes. You must really be bored to come up with brilliant ideas like this. As we all know and have been doing this for 15 years law enforcement's main objective is to follow text messages and to come to people's houses and arrest the John's. You are 100% right and super brilliant. You have 5,000 posts on this website and I think you've contributed about 2 reviews. Thank you so much for contributing and thank you so much for coming down to San Diego and getting evolved in our community.
Keep up the great work.
The DudeInSd
04-22-22, 22:58
These are non-Cris reviews LMAO. Because I am her shill. Ummm whatever.
Keep in mind this is only going back to 2021, I have 90+ reviews on TER, 1 of which is Cris LOL.
1. Middle East Sally.
2. SDAG--the best Korean agency in town-Ash.
Kiko.
Arisa.
Sema.
Susette.
Cuban Ginger man her BBBJ is mind blwoing.
Binna.
Mannie.
10. FEC-Gia.
Seya.
Ace.
Sia.
14. Sandra 99 Nira and Emily.
16. Massage Parlor reviews-Amy Happy Foot.
Amy Leisure.
Apple Diamond in Hilcrest.
Japanese Mia in Hilcrest Mimi traveler.
Ava You spa in LG.
Serenity Viet girl don't remember name, 1 of few negative reviews I ever do.
Erma Yoyo.
Cici VIP in SV.
Golden A Summer.
Rainbow Lucy.
Smile spa Angela / Angel.
Fountain Lisa.
Unique on EBC Thai girl named May.
You spa Lulu in LG.
There's 29 reviews and add that to the 90+ on TER and you get a shit ton.
Shill? Ummmm yeah OK. 120 girls I shill.
When you finally reach the age of 27 years old and can actually contribute something to this forum other than what happened in the ghetto of the homeless in Spring Valley please enlighten us and let us know. You have contributed nothing.
Cheers.
Sir Bishop
05-16-22, 13:34
Well dude, your source for information is pretty good, however they got one pretty important detail wrong. It's VIP in Spring Valley that's for sale, not NLBC. After being closed for about 2 months, and contemplating what they wanted to do, they decided it's best to sell and move on. Sadly, after all the bullshit some of you guys put them through (you know who you are) it just isn't worth the trouble to continue to operate in San Diego. It's the mongers loss really. A few idiots ruined one of, if not THE best thing in town for the rest of us. Thanks a lot.
Mr MuffMan.It is indeed a sad day when competition begins to use the social media tactics of mis-information and shilling, techniques more commonly used by politicians, to belittle, badger, harass, confuse and mis-lead. The information shared in these forums is public, not protected by passwords or elite membership. It appears to anyone. What's worse? People believe this s**t without doing some basic research and the shills and fake posters know this fact. It only takes one person to make multiple fake accounts to spread the same mis-information and harassment on this board. Mis-information, that if repeated enough times, appears to be the truth because it's been said so many times. When the people that are truly involved and know the inner circle truths speak up, they become ignored because they have not made the same statement more times than the hater. The demise of VIP is an example of how competition and hate can shut down a thriving, needed, innovative business.
Congrats to the hater with multiple accounts spreading false and mis-leading information on eliminating one competitor. This competitor has and will re-establish the business. You will not be aware of where, when or how. It will happen. Your efforts to shut down VIP and get business for yourself has been in vain. We know who you are, what you are doing. The mongers on this board take notes and are smart.
Mr MuffMan
05-16-22, 14:13
It is indeed a sad day when competition begins to use the social media tactics of mis-information and shilling, techniques more commonly used by politicians, to belittle, badger, harass, confuse and mis-lead. The information shared in these forums is public, not protected by passwords or elite membership. It appears to anyone. What's worse? People believe this s**t without doing some basic research and the shills and fake posters know this fact. It only takes one person to make multiple fake accounts to spread the same mis-information and harassment on this board. Mis-information, that if repeated enough times, appears to be the truth because it's been said so many times. When the people that are truly involved and know the inner circle truths speak up, they become ignored because they have not made the same statement more times than the hater. The demise of VIP is an example of how competition and hate can shut down a thriving, needed, innovative business.
Congrats to the hater with multiple accounts spreading false and mis-leading information on eliminating one competitor. This competitor has and will re-establish the business. You will not be aware of where, when or how. It will happen. Your efforts to shut down VIP and get business for yourself has been in vain. We know who you are, what you are doing. The mongers on this board take notes and are smart.Well said Sir Bishop. That is certainly a big part of it. There's other things that went into this decision, that I will not speak about on an open forum, but you nailed this part of it. And yes, most of us who participate on this board see right through it. It's the casual reader, who may not even have an account, who probably fall for this.
Mr MuffMan.
Mr MuffMan
05-16-22, 17:37
It is indeed a sad day when competition begins to use the social media tactics of mis-information and shilling, techniques more commonly used by politicians, to belittle, badger, harass, confuse and mis-lead. The information shared in these forums is public, not protected by passwords or elite membership. It appears to anyone. What's worse? People believe this s**t without doing some basic research and the shills and fake posters know this fact. It only takes one person to make multiple fake accounts to spread the same mis-information and harassment on this board. Mis-information, that if repeated enough times, appears to be the truth because it's been said so many times. When the people that are truly involved and know the inner circle truths speak up, they become ignored because they have not made the same statement more times than the hater. The demise of VIP is an example of how competition and hate can shut down a thriving, needed, innovative business.
Congrats to the hater with multiple accounts spreading false and mis-leading information on eliminating one competitor. This competitor has and will re-establish the business. You will not be aware of where, when or how. It will happen. Your efforts to shut down VIP and get business for yourself has been in vain. We know who you are, what you are doing. The mongers on this board take notes and are smart.
Well said Sir Bishop. That is certainly a big part of it. There's other things that went into this decision, that I will not speak about on an open forum, but you nailed this part of it. And yes, most of us who participate on this board see right through it. It's the casual reader, who may not even have an account, who probably fall for this..Let me also add that we're getting close to figuring out who's behind this. My friends and I aren't stupid, and we've complied some compelling evidence. I'm probably saying too much today, but The MuffMan is pissed off! OK, deep breaths.
Mr MuffMan.
DeeeezNutss
05-16-22, 18:05
Think the best thing to do is give the girls a visit NLBC and give them a welcome back session! Think an ATF is with them as well.
Let me also add that we're getting close to figuring out who's behind this. My friends and I aren't stupid, and we've complied some compelling evidence. I'm probably saying too much today, but The MuffMan is pissed off! OK, deep breaths.
Mr MuffMan.
Mr MuffMan
05-16-22, 18:18
Think the best thing to do is give the girls a visit NLBC and give them a welcome back session! Think an ATF is with them as well.Thanks Dee and don't worry, I see these girls everyday, trust me you have no idea. LOL.
Mr MuffMan.
The DudeInSd
05-16-22, 23:17
Think the best thing to do is give the girls a visit NLBC and give them a welcome back session! Think an ATF is with them as well.The beauty of it is.
We get NLBC which is a great place. NLBC aka VIP#2 is so much safer, cleaner, and has much better security. Def a higher class version of the SV location.
It all worked out. Great girls and Mina and Lisa are coming back.
Cheers!
Poon tang is the definition of the pot calling the kettle black. As you've eluded to, other than agreeing or adding to others posts and relentlessly defending VIP, PTJ has contributed nothing. Let's not forgot his VIP remodel under construction and other false nonsense he's posted. E. g. This is my last post on stupid shit. LOL!
Some seem to forget that I've defended VIP on multiple occasions and I have nothing against these beautiful ladies or their spa. On the contrary, I support all working girls and spas, but also call out the BS. So what, they got busted like every FS spa on this forum has been busted at one time or another. The SV location was a shit pit of a spa and as far as I'm concerned it's a blessing in disguise as they've acquired several nicer spas. But it does go to show that location, amenities and an actual massage are of little importance to most mongers.
Support their new spas, all working girls and move on for crying out loud.
When you finally reach the age of 27 years old and can actually contribute something to this forum other than what happened in the ghetto of the homeless in Spring Valley please enlighten us and let us know. You have contributed nothing.
Cheers.
MaximusKahn
05-23-22, 17:42
I appreciate learning about new things in other cultures, especially things that can help us connect with people and create good feelings. Thank you Ryan for sharing the romantic significance of May 20 and May 21 in the Chinese culture.
I think it's great to make the women feel good about the business, what they do with us, and to feel good about themselves overall. In fact, I encourage all of us to create good feelings all around. It is good for the business, the hobby, for the providers, and of course it's better for us.
If any monger wants to play the "I love you" "you love me" game with a provider that's fine, but to keep it real, it would be best to probably not share this special gesture with too many women at once. We know the women review this site, and they talk to each other, so sending a 5/20 message of "I love you" to multiple providers may get you a reply on 5/21, but I'm sure they think such a gesture to so many women is just a love struck puppy who is Fuck-Struck happy.
Passing out "red envelopes" for the holiday is different and I'm sure you can pass out as many as you want without them thinking it's anything but nice. But saying "I love you" to many providers at once is a little different when you consider it's being said to women who, probably have many men "in love" with them many times a day. I'm sure the compliments and offers they get after an amazing session would not be compete without being told "I love you" by a half joking thoroughly satisfied client.
We can say we "love them" but we need to be real about them replying they "love us. " If any client really thinks they "love" you see what you get if you stop paying. Don't pay directly, don't give gifts, don't take them on trips, and try to get some "love" with no payment at all. If she wants to be your girlfriend and gives you the goods for free, then by all means fall in love. If she still wants money for the honey, then, try not to fall too deeply in love, it will only break your heart. And probably your wallet too.
What's the first rule of mongering? "don't fall in love with a provider!
What's the first rule of being a provider? "don't get emotionally attached to any clients!
Jaguar300ZX
05-28-22, 01:47
If any monger wants to play the "I love you" "you love me" game with a provider that's fine, but to keep it real, it would be best to probably not share this special gesture with too many women at once. We know the women review this site, and they talk to each other, so sending a 5/20 message of "I love you" to multiple providers may get you a reply on 5/21, but I'm sure they think such a gesture to so many women is just a love struck puppy who is Fuck-Struck happy.
We can say we "love them" but we need to be real about them replying they "love us"
If any client really thinks they "love" you see what you get if you stop paying. Don't pay directly, don't give gifts, don't take them on trips, and try to get some "love" with no payment at all. If she wants to be your girlfriend and gives you the goods for free, then by all means fall in love. If she still wants money for the honey, then, try not to fall too deeply in love, it will only break your heart. And probably your wallet too.
What's the first rule of mongering? "don't fall in love with a provider!
What's the first rule of being a provider? "don't get emotionally attached to any clients!When I was One and Twenty, I heard a Wiseman say;
"Give Pounds and Crowns and Rubys, -but not your Heart away”
Well, now I'm One and Sixty, and this I'll say to you.
Regarding what that Wiseman said; -it's True, it's True, it's True.
I brought up the 520 and 521 as a point of interest and in hopes some of you boys would make some of these Chinese working girls feel appreciated and acknowledged during these dates of Chinese affection. But it isn't so much if you know the significance of 520 with a Chinese woman, it's if they feel you are worthy of their attention during these Chinese Valentine days.
As I had mentioned in my original post concerning 520, if a Chinese girl brings these dates to your attention, they most likely have some interest in you. In fact this is how I discovered the significance of these dates in modern Chinese culture. Several Chinese ladies mentioned these dates to me. The juggling of multiple women is a whole other topic but I find honesty to be the best policy and if you can find women that accept you as a man *****, you've achieved nirvana IMO.
I appreciate learning about new things in other cultures, especially things that can help us connect with people and create good feelings. Thank you Ryan for sharing the romantic significance of May 20 and May 21 in the Chinese culture.
I think it's great to make the women feel good about the business, what they do with us, and to feel good about themselves overall. In fact, I encourage all of us to create good feelings all around. It is good for the business, the hobby, for the providers, and of course it's better for us.
If any monger wants to play the "I love you" "you love me" game with a provider that's fine, but to keep it real, it would be best to probably not share this special gesture with too many women at once. We know the women review this site, and they talk to each other, so sending a 5/20 message of "I love you" to multiple providers may get you a reply on 5/21, but I'm sure they think such a gesture to so many women is just a love struck puppy who is Fuck-Struck happy.
Passing out "red envelopes" for the holiday is different and I'm sure you can pass out as many as you want without them thinking it's anything but nice. But saying "I love you" to many providers at once is a little different when you consider it's being said to women who, probably have many men "in love" with them many times a day. I'm sure the compliments and offers they get after an amazing session would not be compete without being told "I love you" by a half joking thoroughly satisfied client.
We can say we "love them" but we need to be real about them replying they "love us. " If any client really thinks they "love" you see what you get if you stop paying. Don't pay directly, don't give gifts, don't take them on trips, and try to get some "love" with no payment at all. If she wants to be your girlfriend and gives you the goods for free, then by all means fall in love. If she still wants money for the honey, then, try not to fall too deeply in love, it will only break your heart. And probably your wallet too.
What's the first rule of mongering? "don't fall in love with a provider!
What's the first rule of being a provider? "don't get emotionally attached to any clients!
Those are HPV.
Human papillomavirus infection https://g.co/kgs/2B116Z.
If you have vaccine, you are safe against most HPV. I got my HPV vaccine back in 2017, I noticed similar spots on a Nuru massage girl, she had like 30-40 around the kitty, I got scared that I was going to get that shit, it spreads through skin-to-skin contact, I didn't see them on me which means the vaccine worked against it. You need to be below age 26 to get the vaccine though to see maximum benefit.
https://www.cdc.gov/hpv/parents/vaccine-for-hpv.html
You will see them on or around your dick, Bill Burr has a stand up comedy bit about these spots on the New Netflix special that was released a few days back, its called Bill Burr presents: Friends who kill the joke starts around 3 minute markFalse information.
HPV looks like a lesion has wider surface area on the outer skin.
Those are papules. Similar to skin tags. Harmless.
The DudeInSd
06-12-22, 14:49
First off I would like to apologize if I ruffled anyone's feathers with my post. I am not trying to fight or cause harm to any mongers or girls. I just have some questions / thoughts on what is permitted to post on this website.
Multiple AMP spa girls have been known over the past few years to offer BBFS and it has been discussed on this website. Not until this week has anyone got upset about posting reviews on a review site concerning this? Without mentioning their specific names but made up names. 1) pixie haircut 2) Strawberry at you spa in LG 3) Yuyulemon at you spa in LG 4) Yella at L spa on EC Blvd. And the list goes on. I texted pixie purple this week as she is working up in Washington state and asked if it bothered her that customers know she offers this service and she texted back "no problem". I also texted YYLemon and she said "she offers it to who she feels comfortable with but denies many requests". The agency girls advertise "open minded with no guarantee" which means they may say "sorry honey need to use condom today". Many agency girls do not advertise BB but will offer it if they feel comfortable with you.
Just like when we ask a spa girl for a kiss, a BBBJ, CFS, or any other service and they say "sorry honey only HJ, or sorry honey only CBJ or sorry honey only blah blah". Bottom line is they say no to many requests each and every day. No big deal.
Again my apologies if I made a mistake with my reviews.
First off I would like to apologize if I ruffled anyone's feathers with my post. I am not trying to fight or cause harm to any mongers or girls. I just have some questions / thoughts on what is permitted to post on this website.
Multiple AMP spa girls have been known over the past few years to offer BBFS and it has been discussed on this website. Not until this week has anyone got upset about posting reviews on a review site concerning this? Without mentioning their specific names but made up names. 1) pixie haircut 2) Strawberry at you spa in LG 3) Yuyulemon at you spa in LG 4) Yella at L spa on EC Blvd. And the list goes on. I texted pixie purple this week as she is working up in Washington state and asked if it bothered her that customers know she offers this service and she texted back "no problem". I also texted YYLemon and she said "she offers it to who she feels comfortable with but denies many requests". The agency girls advertise "open minded with no guarantee" which means they may say "sorry honey need to use condom today". Many agency girls do not advertise BB but will offer it if they feel comfortable with you.
Just like when we ask a spa girl for a kiss, a BBBJ, CFS, or any other service and they say "sorry honey only HJ, or sorry honey only CBJ or sorry honey only blah blah". Bottom line is they say no to many requests each and every day. No big deal.
Again my apologies if I made a mistake with my reviews.Bravo, very well said! Thanks for throwing that out there.
I read your post and did not see anything malicious, rather you just sharing an opinion and experiences. My post about BBFS was not meant to be critical of yours, rather just sharing my opinion and experiences as well.
In general, if I think I'm going to post a report about a girl, I ask them if it's okay. So if they provided BBFS, I'm happy to share. That said, there only been one girl that didn't care about me posting BBFS. I don't recall if I actually mentioned it or not, but several other mongers did and I generally don't like to repeat what's already been reported.
Appreciate your consideration.
First off I would like to apologize if I ruffled anyone's feathers with my post. I am not trying to fight or cause harm to any mongers or girls. I just have some questions / thoughts on what is permitted to post on this website.
Multiple AMP spa girls have been known over the past few years to offer BBFS and it has been discussed on this website. Not until this week has anyone got upset about posting reviews on a review site concerning this? Without mentioning their specific names but made up names. 1) pixie haircut 2) Strawberry at you spa in LG 3) Yuyulemon at you spa in LG 4) Yella at L spa on EC Blvd. And the list goes on. I texted pixie purple this week as she is working up in Washington state and asked if it bothered her that customers know she offers this service and she texted back "no problem". I also texted YYLemon and she said "she offers it to who she feels comfortable with but denies many requests". The agency girls advertise "open minded with no guarantee" which means they may say "sorry honey need to use condom today". Many agency girls do not advertise BB but will offer it if they feel comfortable with you.
Just like when we ask a spa girl for a kiss, a BBBJ, CFS, or any other service and they say "sorry honey only HJ, or sorry honey only CBJ or sorry honey only blah blah". Bottom line is they say no to many requests each and every day. No big deal.
Again my apologies if I made a mistake with my reviews.
The DudeInSd
06-14-22, 09:50
I read your post and did not see anything malicious, rather you just sharing an opinion and experiences. My post about BBFS was not meant to be critical of yours, rather just sharing my opinion and experiences as well.
In general, if I think I'm going to post a report about a girl, I ask them if it's okay. So if they provided BBFS, I'm happy to share. That said, there only been one girl that didn't care about me posting BBFS. I don't recall if I actually mentioned it or not, but several other mongers did and I generally don't like to repeat what's already been reported.
Appreciate your consideration.Ok cool and yes I guess that's a good idea going forward. Ask the spa girl if she is cool with it. The Korean agency girls mostly advertise so it's not a secret.
Cheers.
I've noticed that a lot of the hobbyists who consistently post having a great time with the ladies seem to be the same guys who show respect, compassion, and a genuine interest in the ladies' wellbeing and their connection to them.
Hmmmmm. Imagine that. Maybe something to consider as we are out there trying to enjoy the hobby.Been on here for over a decade and rarely post. I've never disrespected anyone and have always had a good time. But to show a genuine interest in the ladies' well-being? Naw. I'll pass on that.
You going to ask Shirley out on a date or pay for her rent for the month? C'Mon. My white knighted brotha.
If this is too combative (although meant in jest) mods are welcome to not post.
I'm more along the lines of Max's opinion. I'd like to think I'm just one of many that have a genuine concern for these working girls well being, but I am aware that there are many of you that could give a rats ass other than your own pleasure from these girls.
To your point, you are helping them pay their rent when you pay for these working girls services. To my point, I have developed many good friendships with these working girls and spa owners where we take care of each other as friends with benefits as well as just good old friends sharing life's pleasures and troubles together.
To only know these working girls from a sexual perspective, you are only touching the surface of the beauty and depth that lies beneath their flesh. I know this sounds corny to you based on your post, but from the stories shared by these working girls, there are many mongers that wish they could have more than just the sex.
I have the most respect for mongers with reports that reflect a genuine interest in these working girls well being, even if I disagree with their taste in women and their expectations.
Been on here for over a decade and rarely post. I've never disrespected anyone and have always had a good time. But to show a genuine interest in the ladies' well-being? Naw. I'll pass on that.
You going to ask Shirley out on a date or pay for her rent for the month? C'Mon. My white knighted brotha.
If this is too combative (although meant in jest) mods are welcome to not post.
I believe there's always been a handful of mongers that were rewarded in some way for posting reports about spas and specific providers. A pass on the house fee, a freebie or discount on services, etc. Then there are the spa owners themselves that would create accounts and post their own reports attempting to promote their spas and girls. Most are painfully obvious with their lack of English and writing skills, but even newbies would read them and think WTF.
As of recent, when a flood of reports dominated this forum, even senior mongers would elude to "creative" marketing skills by a spa that need not be mentioned. My point is, it was during this time that this forum began being flooded with long detailed Penthouse forum type of reports. Sure there were always those fantasy stories shared every once in awhile, to relive and share an awesome experience, me included. But the sheer number of these types of reports currently seems to be the new normal.
I like supporting a good spa and girl as much as the next guy, but I don't usually bother repeating what several reports have already said. I've mentioned this before and I'm mentioning it again only because it's become painfully obvious to me. As you read some reports and some blatant white knighting for the slightest of criticisms towards a spa or girl, just know that some mongers are being paid healthy amounts for their reports.
For the record, I've been given a pass on a house fee from time to time, but never asked for and never for an expected report. More so for being a good customer that treats the girls and spa owners / managers well. I've been offered healthy amounts of cash for reports and have always refused. I'm still treated with respect and appreciation by the spa owners and girls and I suspect a bit more respect then you poor saps that need the money more than integrity.
Just my 2 cents.
I like supporting a good spa and girl as much as the next guy, but I don't usually bother repeating what several reports have already said. I've mentioned this before and I'm mentioning it again only because it's become painfully obvious to me.
I like those guys who write those reviews, and I like those spas, but yes, I agree. We don't need a hundredth report on Eva or Mina! I've created the FS subforum to try and create space in the massage forum for what that forum was originally about: places to go get a real massage and a happy ending. Talking about 108/ VIP / NLBC / Diamond / Smile etc in there is silly as those girls aren't usually real massage girls and FS is guaranteed.
I will admit that I became self conscious reading your post, because I frequently post about two particular spas.
Speaking only for myself, I can guarantee I have never been paid for a review or offered a discount or any special service. I would say the only "special" thing I receive, and not for my reviews, is a heads up when a new girl is coming. I have been asked to write a review without seeing a girl, and I have always refused (but I have never been offered money or sex! That might have changed things haha).
RChangDatyKing
06-24-22, 23:52
I like those guys who write those reviews, and I like those spas, but yes, I agree. We don't need a hundredth report on Eva or Mina! I've created the FS subforum to try and create space in the massage forum for what that forum was originally about: places to go get a real massage and a happy ending. Talking about 108/ VIP / NLBC / Diamond / Smile etc in there is silly as those girls aren't usually real massage girls and FS is guaranteed.
I will admit that I became self conscious reading your post, because I frequently post about two particular spas.
Speaking only for myself, I can guarantee I have never been paid for a review or offered a discount or any special service. I would say the only "special" thing I receive, and not for my reviews, is a heads up when a new girl is coming. I have been asked to write a review without seeing a girl, and I have always refused (but I have never been offered money or sex! That might have changed things haha).Self conscious? Waylay, bro you are a respected member and always offer great intel / guidance / recommendations. Why give a shit what some of these guys think. Even if you only reviewed one spa, you will still be respected by mongers because your reviews would be honest and the girls with the positive reviews would all be incredible, and you would never discouraged anyone from going to their competitions. I can always rely on your reviews on the 2 spas, independents, non FS spas if that's where I am visiting.
Also, shout out to these other mongers for their intel and making this FUN!
If I am looking for intel about spas. I would look for your reviews, as well as those from PTJohnny, Mr. Muffman, CuriousJo8, FsSDMon. And of course Blue Sky Blue the one who got me to signed up.
If I want to know about Independents I would look for posts from. JackeRouac, Lion1, SDFitLife, Heywood, AJaxer11, BigChopper.
If I want HX, Asian agencies and FS escorts- Sir Bishop, IslandFan, Kwaze, SDPewPew, The Ass Man.
All these other gentlemen for everything else. LOL- Dog Rice, Stupitt, Denutss, DragonWolf, RolfTorren.
Thanks fellas! Happy mongering and stay safe.
I believe there's always been a handful of mongers that were rewarded in some way for posting reports about spas and specific providers. A pass on the house fee, a freebie or discount on services, etc. Then there are the spa owners themselves that would create accounts and post their own reports attempting to promote their spas and girls. Most are painfully obvious with their lack of English and writing skills, but even newbies would read them and think WTF.
As of recent, when a flood of reports dominated this forum, even senior mongers would elude to "creative" marketing skills by a spa that need not be mentioned. My point is, it was during this time that this forum began being flooded with long detailed Penthouse forum type of reports. Sure there were always those fantasy stories shared every once in awhile, to relive and share an awesome experience, me included. But the sheer number of these types of reports currently seems to be the new normal.
I like supporting a good spa and girl as much as the next guy, but I don't usually bother repeating what several reports have already said. I've mentioned this before and I'm mentioning it again only because it's become painfully obvious to me. As you read some reports and some blatant white knighting for the slightest of criticisms towards a spa or girl, just know that some mongers are being paid healthy amounts for their reports..Right on. There are 50+ spas that are FS anyway. As they say $$ talk.
I like these spas too and most of their girls. The long winded reports used to be entertaining but not when they comprise of the majority of reports. Then you have the members that will repost the whole novel with something short to add to their reports count and earn their pay with something like "I agree. " Also becoming ever so popular is the tagging of several reports to reply to. Sigh.
Note the popular mongers that didn't defend themselves. Take a good hard look at their history and recent trends. Some previously sincere members have unfortunately been corrupted. Know that these members not only make up pseudo reports, but also try to paint themselves as players, usually lying about their age and out of spa escapades. But there are also many truths to these reports, fake or not, so take all posts with a grain of salt. I still like to check out some reports for myself, which usually separates the shills from the sincere.
I took a little heat from the spas that pay these mongers for their posts. They've shared who these members are though I'm not going to reveal for the sake of the spas, but I think it's pretty obvious. When the spas contacted me about this post, I told them plain and simple, I don't like you paying these fuckers to post shill reports for you. All of them said the same thing; all the spas are doing it so we have to or lose business.
I told them they don't need to. Let the reports happen organically like they used to, but the feeling is they will not stop until the other spas stop paying for these shill reports. How much some of you wonder? I've been offered between $500 and a $1000+/ month as well as paid accounts on RubMaps and other forums / websites that have reviews.
There are even some mongers with the nerve to ask to be paid for reports or do the opposite with straight out blackmail reporting to the police if not paid in some way. To the blackmailers, we have your numbers and most times your picture and plates. They've been distributed to many spas and working girls. In case you haven't noticed, you didn't close any of them or cost them the thousands you threatened as opposed to paying you off. If a spa closed that you threatened, it was not due to you, it was other circumstances. If a spa payed you for your blackmail, it's only because I didn't know them or you would be in my radar.
The good news is there are many hidden treasures out there that many of us like for their laid back, no rush services. They work harder to please because they do not succumb to paying for fake shill reports. I don't mind keeping them under the radar, but you know how to get a hold of me if you'd care to know some of these hidden treasures.
Number one rule always applies, if you don't like what you see or not feeling it, walk away. If you choose to stay, it's on you not whatever report influenced you.
I like those guys who write those reviews, and I like those spas, but yes, I agree. We don't need a hundredth report on Eva or Mina! I've created the FS subforum to try and create space in the massage forum for what that forum was originally about: places to go get a real massage and a happy ending. Talking about 108/ VIP / NLBC / Diamond / Smile etc in there is silly as those girls aren't usually real massage girls and FS is guaranteed.
I will admit that I became self conscious reading your post, because I frequently post about two particular spas.
Speaking only for myself, I can guarantee I have never been paid for a review or offered a discount or any special service. I would say the only "special" thing I receive, and not for my reviews, is a heads up when a new girl is coming. I have been asked to write a review without seeing a girl, and I have always refused (but I have never been offered money or sex! That might have changed things haha).
I like these spas too and most of their girls. The long winded reports used to be entertaining but not when they comprise of the majority of reports. Then you have the members that will repost the whole novel with something short to add The reports are entertaining, but I've been finding myself lately quoting GySgt Hartman. .
"You think you are Mickey Spillane?" LOL.
RChangDatyKing
06-28-22, 07:36
I actually do have reviews for NLBC here in this forum. I have seen Sunny, Apple, and Cici at NLBC (VIP2).Go back and read my posts. And my resource is a publicly available website called; Crimemapping.ComI went back and looked at your 56 posts as you suggested, not one was a review for any of the girls from VIP, VIP2 or NLBC. LOL.
The posts do paint a clear picture!
Jaguar300ZX
06-28-22, 10:52
I went back and looked at your 56 posts as you suggested, not one was a review for any of the girls from VIP, VIP2 or NLBC. LOL.
The posts do paint a clear picture!
Post #19043.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4989-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=5960466&viewfull=1#post5960466
O-M-G, I wonder if this is the same 'Sunny' that worked at NLBC back in late March of this year!?
I had an awesome session with her!
4 ft-11 in tall, Big Fake D-cup boobies, (cartoonishly oversized for her frame) sweet tasting baby-smooth Kitty, Very Pretty Face & Light-Brown dyed Hair. Perfectly proportioned body shape (Spank-Bank worthy).
She Licks & Kisses everything, then the "Ten-Thousand Tongue Turbo Hurricane-BBBJ", followed by CFS Asian-CG, & Rev-CG.
Then finished in DATY-69 with BBBJCIM.
Only downside was in 69, her frame is so short that every time I pulled her pussy up to my tongue, her mouth would separate from my dick. (I'm 6 ft-1in to her 4 ft-11in) 30 min HF =$60 / Extra Tip =$160 with no drama.
I would repeat with her again without hesitation.
I really hope she is the OG Sunny!!
Post #108.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34196-V-i-p&p=5964498#post5964498.
I stopped into the Old VIP1 on Friday morning at about brunch-time, And Yes, it is Open -but just barely.
I walked right past the old homeless man who mumlbles to himself, strait into a slightly improved front lobby.
Improved only by the new metal security door that all AMP's use to seperate Business from Pleasure.
But it only offers some privacy, because you can still see strait thru the metal mesh down the hallway.
Business was slow, with only one girl working today, named Alisa, (pronouced 'A-Liz-a' -not 'A-Lee-cia')
I must've caught her off guard as she was actually in the kitchen cooking, and had to dash into the Manager's office for a quick outfit change.
Her spoken English is passable, but a few misspellings in her written English.
She escorted me down the hall to Rm. #5 on the right, and I was offered Half-Hour or One-Hour.
(Oh-Wow, -an entire hour! -that would've been unheard of during VIP1's former glory).
She asked me if I had been there before, I replied Yes and I mentioned Daisy, Lisa, & Jojo as my prior conquests, but she seemed unphased by any of VIP's Hall-of-Fame A-List.
I'm guessing that the new owners & staff are unrelated to the former ownership, so I just paid $50 for 30-Min's and assumed the position.
She started off very professional, asking Hard? Or Soft?, Do you want Oil Yes?/ No?, Blah-blah-blah.
(I'm really not used to these long introductions at VIP1, I mean normally I'd be waist-deep in Breast's, Asses, & Vagina's within the first 5-Min's here).
Ok, I get it, she wants some reassurances that I'm a safe customer, because my nefarious reputation does not proceede me here under the new management.
So I ask her to spray my hands with her bottle of Alcohol (so that I can grope her Ass in a sanitary fashion to pass her LE check).
I know they appreciate these little attemps at cleanliness. So, after wipeing my hands dry, I immeadiatly flip over and ask her "How about Junior?
She looks at me puzzled for a moment, but I quickly relieve her suspiscions by gliding my hand up underneath her dress to cup and fondle her Ass Cheeks without any protest from her.
I'm pleasently surprised to discover that she goes Commando.
Ok its Game-On, and now were cool with each other.
She then asks "What would you like? And how much you Tip?
It's been a long week for me and I'm not feeling too energetic, so I just request to be serviced without working up a sweat.
I request the basic, DATY-69 w / BBBJ, with CFS Asian-CG finish. And I offer her $140, she aggrees quickly without an issue.
Off with her one-piece dress, she's full-figured, -but not chubby, Soft Youthful skin, Natural D-Cup, Clean Smelling, Trimmed Kitty, Cute Face (she wears glasses, but not during the session).
I'd put her age at 31-34, and she likes it when you to fondle her boobs.
Now the weird part, I asked her if she had a Business Card with the AMP's Name & Phone number, and she said "No Business Cards, No Names, and no plans to get any" . WTH!?
But she then pulls out her phone and shows me the phone number on a cut-off image of a different AMP's Business Card. . WTH!?
She then tells me that the Phone number is for a Different AMP in SV which she is going to refer me to, and tells me to ask for 'Jenny'.
Then she gives me her personal Phone Number with a L. A. Area code, and the hand-written address of the other AMP in SV.
I get the feeling that that there's no intention to develop the talent at this spot, which is just riding upon the reputation of its prior success, and diverting customers to their other AMP (5-Star) only until the lease at this location runs out.
I think that I am shareing pretty good information here on the forum, so maybe instead of making public accusations you should contact me via PM
DelMar Surfdog
06-28-22, 11:43
Post #19043.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4989-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=5960466&viewfull=1#post5960466
Post #108.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34196-V-i-p&p=5964498#post5964498.
I am glad that you reposted those reviews. You're one of the better reviewers on here and feel that your reviews are honest and are not being compensated. Keep up the great work.
I don't always agree with all of your posts, but it's clear to me that you are being sincere.
There are those that use this forum to share sincere info, those that shill, have some fun, relive amazing experiences, supporting their favorite spas and girls, etc. . .
Then you've got those whose life exists on these forums. Keyboard kings. The member with the most posts is the king, if only in their minds. Then you've got the members that like jerking each other off by reposting their butt buddies reports with additional words of love and admiration.
It's all entertaining to me. Personally, I enjoy reading and adding my two cents most while sitting on the can. Some reports really inspire a good shit. LOL!
Be safe, support these working girls and enjoy life.
Post #19043.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?4989-Massage-Parlor-Reports&p=5960466&viewfull=1#post5960466
Post #108.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?34196-V-i-p&p=5964498#post5964498.
I think that I am shareing pretty good information here on the forum, so maybe instead of making public accusations you should contact me via PM
MaximusKahn
06-29-22, 08:59
Yes it is true, I tend to be a bit quixotic at times.
If by treating women right, speaking of treating women right, and encouraging mongers to treat women right makes me a White Knight, well I guess that I'm a White Knight.
I can live with that.
Believe me, I've been called much worse. And that is by very reliable sources who know what they're talking about. Max.
Well sir, there is the true definition of a "white knight" and you have the forum's version of a white knight.
I think most know the difference and I strive to fall within your definition.
If you're going to be quixotic, your way is most noble.
Respect!
Yes it is true, I tend to be a bit quixotic at times.
If by treating women right, speaking of treating women right, and encouraging mongers to treat women right makes me a White Knight, well I guess that I'm a White Knight.
I can live with that.
Believe me, I've been called much worse. And that is by very reliable sources who know what they're talking about. Max.
Ok cool and yes I guess that's a good idea going forward. Ask the spa girl if she is cool with it. The Korean agency girls mostly advertise so it's not a secret.
Cheers.Know that the agency or spa advertises whatever they think will entice the reader, not what the provider may actually allow. I'm sure many have experienced this conflict of what's advertised as opposed to what's actually provided.
If at a new place with a new girl, I treated it like a box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get, but once you get a little bite, the rest is up to you to enjoy it or spit it out.
The DudeInSd
06-30-22, 22:36
Can we just have a thread for the guys that get paid from 108,7 Spa, and Diamond on Hillcrest?
I mean there are basically 3 guys that are getting paid and leaving these 7 paragraph reviews of these 3 shops. I personally have left about 125 reviews outside of Cris. I have been offered money to leave reviews, but why would I do it when I have a private practice in infectious disease and I'm about to retire. I'm not looking for money. I've never taken a penny and I don't think it's fair to leave an honest review.
So again, can we just create a thread for Poontang, the muffguy, and somebody they call the king for their 3 shops?
I am not sure what it takes to create a thread, can somebody please let me know so that we can get back to honest reviews?
Thanks.
SDJaziKing
07-01-22, 03:19
Scored another Genuine BBFS with a girl from 108. She already left SD so I won't disclose the name, but man, it always feels so amazing when girls straight want to fuck me raw without even a hesitation. She began teasing me with "just the tip" play while she was on top of me, DFKing vigorously. Had her laid on the table and gave her the oral service she deserved. Less than 5 minutes in, she begged me to kiss her again and the she basically grabbed my dick and put it inside her moist pussy. After making her cum twice from non-stop pounding in MISH, she begged me to cum but not inside. Pulled my dick out and shoot my load all over her body. Hell, shit even made it all the way to her chin LOL. I helped her get clean, and she pretty much collapsed in my arms and enjoyed her little 20 minute nap. She said she might come back in August but I will most likely pay her visit in LA soon. This girl was beyond addicting. Probably the best GFE experience in my 10+ years of mongering in San Diego.
Glad you posted this under "Stupid Shit" where it belongs. Nice fantasy though.
Scored another Genuine BBFS with a girl from 108. She already left SD so I won't disclose the name, but man, it always feels so amazing when girls straight want to fuck me raw without even a hesitation. She began teasing me with "just the tip" play while she was on top of me, DFKing vigorously. Had her laid on the table and gave her the oral service she deserved. Less than 5 minutes in, she begged me to kiss her again and the she basically grabbed my dick and put it inside her moist pussy. After making her cum twice from non-stop pounding in MISH, she begged me to cum but not inside. Pulled my dick out and shoot my load all over her body. Hell, shit even made it all the way to her chin LOL. I helped her get clean, and she pretty much collapsed in my arms and enjoyed her little 20 minute nap. She said she might come back in August but I will most likely pay her visit in LA soon. This girl was beyond addicting. Probably the best GFE experience in my 10+ years of mongering in San Diego.
The DudeInSd
07-01-22, 09:16
Scored another Genuine BBFS with a girl from 108. She already left SD so I won't disclose the name, but man, it always feels so amazing when girls straight want to fuck me raw without even a hesitation. She began teasing me with "just the tip" play while she was on top of me, DFKing vigorously. Had her laid on the table and gave her the oral service she deserved. Less than 5 minutes in, she begged me to kiss her again and the she basically grabbed my dick and put it inside her moist pussy. After making her cum twice from non-stop pounding in MISH, she begged me to cum but not inside. Pulled my dick out and shoot my load all over her body. Hell, shit even made it all the way to her chin LOL. I helped her get clean, and she pretty much collapsed in my arms and enjoyed her little 20 minute nap. She said she might come back in August but I will most likely pay her visit in LA soon. This girl was beyond addicting. Probably the best GFE experience in my 10+ years of mongering in San Diego.It's always a bonus when it happens, hopefully you won't be attacked and called a liar lmao.
Cheers.
Mr MuffMan
07-01-22, 13:24
Can we just have a thread for the guys that get paid from 108,7 Spa, and Diamond on Hillcrest?
I mean there are basically 3 guys that are getting paid and leaving these 7 paragraph reviews of these 3 shops. I personally have left about 125 reviews outside of Cris. I have been offered money to leave reviews, but why would I do it when I have a private practice in infectious disease and I'm about to retire. I'm not looking for money. I've never taken a penny and I don't think it's fair to leave an honest review.
So again, can we just create a thread for Poontang, the muffguy, and somebody they call the king for their 3 shops?.LOL. Let's see, I've never been to Diamond Spa in Hillcrest in my life, I've been to 108 once in 2022 (saw Kiki, she was great but I did not leave a review), and I've been to 7 Spa a handful of times and left two reviews (Sophia and Amy). In the meantime, I've been to VIP and NLBC over 100 times, have left many many reviews of the girls there, and I'm literally like best of friends with one of the owners, but you think I'm being paid by 108,7 Spa and Diamond to leave reviews for them LOL. That might be the funniest thing I've ever read on this site.
Mr MuffMan.
A few simple clicks will add them to your ignore list and you won't have to read their 7 paragraph reviews. Quit being a drama queen and move on dude lmao.
Can we just have a thread for the guys that get paid from 108,7 Spa, and Diamond on Hillcrest?
I mean there are basically 3 guys that are getting paid and leaving these 7 paragraph reviews of these 3 shops. I personally have left about 125 reviews outside of Cris. I have been offered money to leave reviews, but why would I do it when I have a private practice in infectious disease and I'm about to retire. I'm not looking for money. I've never taken a penny and I don't think it's fair to leave an honest review.
So again, can we just create a thread for Poontang, the muffguy, and somebody they call the king for their 3 shops?
I am not sure what it takes to create a thread, can somebody please let me know so that we can get back to honest reviews?
Thanks.
The DudeInSd
07-01-22, 23:47
A few simple clicks will add them to your ignore list and you won't have to read their 7 paragraph reviews. Quit being a drama queen and move on dude lmao.I am under the impression that people leave honest reviews. I also was under the impression that this site was meant to share stuff so that we can all gain knowledge and know where to go and who to see. I never thought that I would need to put people on some sort of ignore list. I always see the good in people and I have always left 100% honest reviews and where have been and who I have seen.
Very sad.
SDJaziKing
07-02-22, 05:08
It's always a bonus when it happens, hopefully you won't be attacked and called a liar lmao.
Cheers.What really shocked me was that it was my first time seeing her. Yet we instantly clicked and fucked like as if I just came back from a year long deployment. What a fucking memory.
I am under the impression that people leave honest reviews. I also was under the impression that this site was meant to share stuff so that we can all gain knowledge and know where to go and who to see. I never thought that I would need to put people on some sort of ignore list. I always see the good in people and I have always left 100% honest reviews and where have been and who I have seen.
Very sad.Bubba why do you think there is an ignore function. It's a free site, there will always be trolls and bullshitters. Using the ignore function will increase your enjoyment of the forum.
A2.
MaximusKahn
07-02-22, 12:01
If it is too long, too perfect, too good to be true, then it's easy enough to spot as a shill post.
If he's telling you he's god gift to women and she's madly in love with his manhood it's a fantasy post.
I have no idea who's getting paid to post or not, but I do know keyboard kings will always be lurking and peddling bull shit in a free room.
PoonTangJohnny
07-02-22, 12:08
Bubba why do you think there is an ignore function. It's a free site, there will always be trolls and bullshitters. Using the ignore function will increase your enjoyment of the forum.
A2.Thank you!
The ignore function, is one of the best feature on this forum, and it does work!
It would be so wonderful, if people here were allowed to actually "ENJOY" this hobby, without having these clowns with multiple shill accounts, incessantly pissing on our otherwise, fun, enjoyable hobby.
A few simple clicks will add them to your ignore list and you won't have to read their 7 paragraph reviews. Quit being a drama queen and move on dude lmao.Brother- I sure wish I could buy you an IPA or a drink! Or 2!
Scored another Genuine BBFS with a girl from 108. She already left SD so I won't disclose the name, but man, it always feels so amazing when girls straight want to fuck me raw without even a hesitation. She began teasing me with "just the tip" play while she was on top of me, DFKing vigorously. Had her laid on the table and gave her the oral service she deserved. Less than 5 minutes in, she begged me to kiss her again and the she basically grabbed my dick and put it inside her moist pussy. After making her cum twice from non-stop pounding in MISH, she begged me to cum but not inside. Pulled my dick out and shoot my load all over her body. Hell, shit even made it all the way to her chin LOL. I helped her get clean, and she pretty much collapsed in my arms and enjoyed her little 20 minute nap. She said she might come back in August but I will most likely pay her visit in LA soon. This girl was beyond addicting. Probably the best GFE experience in my 10+ years of mongering in San Diego.You're the man, SDJK! I'd like to buy you a beer as well, and listen to you tell me this story again, in person!
And FTR: I don't doubt the veracity of what went down for a second. Sometimes, instinctive uninhibited animal magnetism mode between 2 in heat animals, clicks on in BOTH animals. It's rare, but when it happens, it's a truly special, mind blowing experience.
Self conscious? Waylay, bro you are a respected member and always offer great intel / guidance / recommendations. Why give a shit what some of these guys think. Even if you only reviewed one spa, you will still be respected by mongers because your reviews would be honest and the girls with the positive reviews would all be incredible, and you would never discouraged anyone from going to their competitions. I can always rely on your reviews on the 2 spas, independents, non FS spas if that's where I am visiting.
Also, shout out to these other mongers for their intel and making this FUN!
If I am looking for intel about spas. I would look for your reviews, as well as those from PTJohnny, Mr. Muffman, CuriousJo8, FsSDMon. And of course Blue Sky Blue the one who got me to signed up.
If I want to know about Independents I would look for posts from. JackeRouac, Lion1, SDFitLife, Heywood, AJaxer11, BigChopper.
If I want HX, Asian agencies and FS escorts- Sir Bishop, IslandFan, Kwaze, SDPewPew, The Ass Man.
All these other gentlemen for everything else. LOL- Dog Rice, Stupitt, Denutss, DragonWolf, RolfTorren.
Thanks fellas! Happy mongering and stay safe.
I went back and looked at your 56 posts as you suggested, not one was a review for any of the girls from VIP, VIP2 or NLBC. LOL.
The posts do paint a clear picture!Excellent post, RCK! I absolutely agree, regarding the credible, esteemed, respectable member's here, whom you mentioned above.
When you know, you know. And WE know the M. O. Of this ONE member with his / her multiple shill accounts. And growing by the day. That Mission Impossible actor, is just 1 more shill account to this person's resume; Along with the 2 guys who "I'm not a Doctor in real life, but I play one on the USA Sex Guide. " LMAO!
LOL. Let's see, I've never been to Diamond Spa in Hillcrest in my life, I've been to 108 once in 2022 (saw Kiki, she was great but I did not leave a review), and I've been to 7 Spa a handful of times and left two reviews (Sophia and Amy). In the meantime, I've been to VIP and NLBC over 100 times, have left many many reviews of the girls there, and I'm literally like best of friends with one of the owners, but you think I'm being paid by 108,7 Spa and Diamond to leave reviews for them LOL. That might be the funniest thing I've ever read on this site.
Mr MuffMan.The only type of people here on this forum, who would behave this way; accuse people here in this otherwise, fun exciting hobby we all enjoy / relate to each other, of being shills, would be the competition (other AMP / AAMP owners). The bottom line is: "THEY," couldn't compete (NOBODY COULD) with VIP / VIP2 when they arrived on the scene and the unprecedented experiences they have to us lucky guys. So this person / people, resorted to their ugly despicable tactics and did everything in their power, to sabotage everything these amazing girls worked so hard to bring us lucky guys. Until they finally drove them out of business / town.
I will be addressing some facts of what these girls suffered through shortly in a follow up post, and some of the personal details as to what these poor girls had to suffer through and the videos they've shared with me, which speak volumes.
I will say this: There will be retribution and hell to pay for the people responsible for doing this. I for one, am still livid, for the loss of these wonderful amazing girls of VIP / VIP2- Mina, Lisa, Cici, Layla. Diasy and Jenny (to name a few), and the terror some of the poor girls had to suffer through. And it was tactically planned, well thought out, orchestrated terror.
When this campaign of retribution begins, I promise you, it will be Biblical. And there will be other casualties who will suffer the same fate as VIP, when it's all said and done. These past 4 months. I've been patiently acquiring as much factual data on some of these people (whom I feel are the responsible parties behind VIP relentless attacks). And I too, am on the "INSIDE" now, just like this shill person on these forums was, with VIP. I'll leave it at that for now, but I've seen this person on video, at VIP2/ NLBC.
Two can play at this ugly game. And it's about to start. If this BS continues, and any other of the popular AMP's here are targeted and fall victim to this multiple account "shill" member in the future (the 1 person using at least 6 accounts).
It's game on. And the AAMP / Shill who's first name starts with the letter "C," will be the first to find out.
Cheers.
A few simple clicks will add them to your ignore list and you won't have to read their 7 paragraph reviews. Quit being a drama queen and move on dude lmao.The increasing number of short novels is a little annoying, especially since it makes me sit on the can that much longer. But some reports give me the best bowel movements. So personally, I can't ignore something that gives me a nice big shit. LOL!
PenguinsAndieg
07-02-22, 17:48
Can someone explain WTF is going on? Up until about 2 months ago I avoided AMPs until all this NLBC talk had me curious. Pretty sure I left with a small crush on Mina after my second visit there. For the next week or so I couldn't stop fantasizing about her smile. I Was also really looking forward to having some time with Yoona after briefly meeting her in passing.
Are you saying the arrest report someone posted about is true? Even worse, are you saying someone on this forum helped orchestrate the sting and shut them down for good?
I may be oblivious (or just plain dumbass) because I haven't been able to figure out all these shill accounts that get paid. Like RCDK mentioned earlier, there's a well established core of reliable posters that I usually scan for. If I don't see their name I tend to skip over.
Stay safe gents and happy hunting.
Thank you!
When you know, you know. And WE know the M. O. Of this ONE member with his / her multiple shill accounts. And growing by the day. That Mission Impossible actor, is just 1 more shill account to this person's resume; Along with the 2 guys who "I'm not a Doctor in real life, but I play one on the USA Sex Guide. " LMAO!
The only type of people here on this forum, who would behave this way; accuse people here in this otherwise, fun exciting hobby we all enjoy / relate to each other, of being shills, would be the competition (other AMP / AAMP owners). The bottom line is: "THEY," couldn't compete (NOBODY COULD) with VIP / VIP2 when they arrived on the scene and the unprecedented experiences they have to us lucky guys. So this person / people, resorted to their ugly despicable tactics and did everything in their power, to sabotage everything these amazing girls worked so hard to bring us lucky guys. Until they finally drove them out of business / town.
I will be addressing some facts of what these girls suffered through shortly in a follow up post, and some of the personal details as to what these poor girls had to suffer through and the videos they've shared with me, which speak volumes.
I will say this: There will be retribution and hell to pay for the people responsible for doing this. I for one, am still livid, for the loss of these wonderful amazing girls of VIP / VIP2- Mina, Lisa, Cici, Layla. Diasy and Jenny (to name a few), and the terror some of the poor girls had to suffer through. And it was tactically planned, well thought out, orchestrated terror.
When this campaign of retribution begins, I promise you, it will be Biblical. And there will be other casualties who will suffer the same fate as VIP, when it's all said and done. These past 4 months. I've been patiently acquiring as much factual data on some of these people (whom I feel are the responsible parties behind VIP relentless attacks). And I too, am on the "INSIDE" now, just like this shill person on these forums was, with VIP. I'll leave it at that for now, but I've seen this person on video, at VIP2/ NLBC.
Two can play at this ugly game. And it's about to start. If this BS continues, and any other of the popular AMP's here are targeted and fall victim to this multiple account "shill" member in the future (the 1 person using at least 6 accounts).
It's game on. And the AAMP / Shill who's first name starts with the letter "C," will be the first to find out.
Cheers.
The DudeInSd
07-02-22, 18:24
Can someone explain WTF is going on? Up until about 2 months ago I avoided AMPs until all this NLBC talk had me curious. Pretty sure I left with a small crush on Mina after my second visit there. For the next week or so I couldn't stop fantasizing about her smile. Was just texting her 3 weeks ago as she had plans to come down in a couple of months. Hoping her schedule opens up as I saw her 3 times last visit about 6 weeks ago. I will check in with her again soon and update the board.
Cheers.
The DudeInSd
07-02-22, 18:45
The beauty of it is.
We get NLBC which is a great place. NLBC aka VIP#2 is so much safer, cleaner, and has much better security. Def a higher class version of the SV location.
It all worked out. Great girls Mina and Lisa are coming back.
Cheers!Not sure of the situation there. But hoping Mina might work some in the Chula Vista location as well.
Cheers.
You may want to take a harder look at whom you believe as established reliable posters. Hint: They generally don't have to repeatedly support and provide admiration for their butt buddies and their butt buddies are the ones that reciprocate.
God forbid you mention police and anything VIP related to trigger USASexGuide drama central. Regardless of all that nonsense, the number one rule eliminates the shills from the thrills, true or not. If you don't like what you see or not feeling it, walk away. Most FS places are cash only, so asking if they take credit cards is the most polite way out. If a place happens to take CC or has an ATM (very rare) then just say sorry, I'm at the wrong place.
Can someone explain WTF is going on? Up until about 2 months ago I avoided AMPs until all this NLBC talk had me curious. Pretty sure I left with a small crush on Mina after my second visit there. For the next week or so I couldn't stop fantasizing about her smile. I Was also really looking forward to having some time with Yoona after briefly meeting her in passing.
Are you saying the arrest report someone posted about is true? Even worse, are you saying someone on this forum helped orchestrate the sting and shut them down for good?
I may be oblivious (or just plain dumbass) because I haven't been able to figure out all these shill accounts that get paid. Like RCDK mentioned earlier, there's a well established core of reliable posters that I usually scan for. If I don't see their name I tend to skip over.
Stay safe gents and happy hunting.
Man, this post gave me the best shit yet! Thanks for that.
But you are apparently oblivious that you're accusing others of what you yourself do. Those parts of your poop manifesto did give me a little diarrhea.
Thank goodness I have a bidet. LOL!
Thank you!
The ignore function, is one of the best feature on this forum, and it does work!
It would be so wonderful, if people here were allowed to actually "ENJOY" this hobby, without having these clowns with multiple shill accounts, incessantly pissing on our otherwise, fun, enjoyable hobby.
Brother- I sure wish I could buy you an IPA or a drink! Or 2!
You're the man, SDJK! I'd like to buy you a beer as well, and listen to you tell me this story again, in person!
And FTR: I don't doubt the veracity of what went down for a second. Sometimes, instinctive uninhibited animal magnetism mode between 2 in heat animals, clicks on in BOTH animals. It's rare, but when it happens, it's a truly special, mind blowing experience.
Excellent post, RCK! I absolutely agree, regarding the credible, esteemed, respectable member's here, whom you mentioned above.
When you know, you know. And WE know the M. O. Of this ONE member with his / her multiple shill accounts. And growing by the day. That Mission Impossible actor, is just 1 more shill account to this person's resume; Along with the 2 guys who "I'm not a Doctor in real life, but I play one on the USA Sex Guide. " LMAO!
The only type of people here on this forum, who would behave this way; accuse people here in this otherwise, fun exciting hobby we all enjoy / relate to each other, of being shills, would be the competition (other AMP / AAMP owners). The bottom line is: "THEY," couldn't compete (NOBODY COULD) with VIP / VIP2 when they arrived on the scene and the unprecedented experiences they have to us lucky guys. So this person / people, resorted to their ugly despicable tactics and did everything in their power, to sabotage everything these amazing girls worked so hard to bring us lucky guys. Until they finally drove them out of business / town.
I will be addressing some facts of what these girls suffered through shortly in a follow up post, and some of the personal details as to what these poor girls had to suffer through and the videos they've shared with me, which speak volumes.
I will say this: There will be retribution and hell to pay for the people responsible for doing this. I for one, am still livid, for the loss of these wonderful amazing girls of VIP / VIP2- Mina, Lisa, Cici, Layla. Diasy and Jenny (to name a few), and the terror some of the poor girls had to suffer through. And it was tactically planned, well thought out, orchestrated terror.
When this campaign of retribution begins, I promise you, it will be Biblical. And there will be other casualties who will suffer the same fate as VIP, when it's all said and done. These past 4 months. I've been patiently acquiring as much factual data on some of these people (whom I feel are the responsible parties behind VIP relentless attacks). And I too, am on the "INSIDE" now, just like this shill person on these forums was, with VIP. I'll leave it at that for now, but I've seen this person on video, at VIP2/ NLBC.
Two can play at this ugly game. And it's about to start. If this BS continues, and any other of the popular AMP's here are targeted and fall victim to this multiple account "shill" member in the future (the 1 person using at least 6 accounts).
It's game on. And the AAMP / Shill who's first name starts with the letter "C," will be the first to find out.
Cheers.
BlueSkyBlue
07-02-22, 19:34
I never visited in NLBC nor did I feel like driving out to spring valley to visit VIP1 when the were a thing but all this drama tales of intrigue sounds a bit fucking crazy to me.
Can somebody post a short an accurate statement as to current status of this location please.
I looked at the crime map link that was posted and there was three citations issued, 2 for prostitution on that block so the original poster assumed it was NLBC, but this same drama was kicked up the first time when VIP one got ticketed and eventually shut down. At the time people denied it and there was just a whole lot of crazy confusion around this.
Short answers only.
Are they shut down or are they open?
VIP two or NLBC has always on my to do list to visit that place but it always seems like there's lines or some drama associated with it.
I honestly go to a spa for relaxation and release with a pretty girl but I'm just curious why there's so much drama associated with this place. If you're on his most shops just don't seem to have these kind of dramatic issues going on.
I seriously don't get it Could somebody offer some clarification.
Can someone explain WTF is going on?
Are you saying the arrest report someone posted about is true?
Even worse, are you saying someone on this forum helped orchestrate the sting and shut them down for good?
Stay safe gents and happy hunting.
Mr MuffMan
07-02-22, 20:36
When you know, you know. And WE know the M. O. Of this ONE member with his / her multiple shill accounts. And growing by the day. That Mission Impossible actor, is just 1 more shill account to this person's resume; Along with the 2 guys who "I'm not a Doctor in real life, but I play one on the USA Sex Guide. " LMAO!
The only type of people here on this forum, who would behave this way; accuse people here in this otherwise, fun exciting hobby we all enjoy / relate to each other, of being shills, would be the competition (other AMP / AAMP owners). The bottom line is: "THEY," couldn't compete (NOBODY COULD) with VIP / VIP2 when they arrived on the scene and the unprecedented experiences they have to us lucky guys. So this person / people, resorted to their ugly despicable tactics and did everything in their power, to sabotage everything these amazing girls worked so hard to bring us lucky guys. Until they finally drove them out of business / town.
I will be addressing some facts of what these girls suffered through shortly in a follow up post, and some of the personal details as to what these poor girls had to suffer through and the videos they've shared with me, which speak volumes.
I will say this: There will be retribution and hell to pay for the people responsible for doing this. I for one, am still livid, for the loss of these wonderful amazing girls of VIP / VIP2- Mina, Lisa, Cici, Layla. Diasy and Jenny (to name a few), and the terror some of the poor girls had to suffer through. And it was tactically planned, well thought out, orchestrated terror.
When this campaign of retribution begins, I promise you, it will be Biblical. And there will be other casualties who will suffer the same fate as VIP, when it's all said and done. These past 4 months. I've been patiently acquiring as much factual data on some of these people (whom I feel are the responsible parties behind VIP relentless attacks). And I too, am on the "INSIDE" now, just like this shill person on these forums was, with VIP. I'll leave it at that for now, but I've seen this person on video, at VIP2/ NLBC.
Two can play at this ugly game. And it's about to start. If this BS continues, and any other of the popular AMP's here are targeted and fall victim to this multiple account "shill" member in the future (the 1 person using at least 6 accounts).
It's game on. And the AAMP / Shill who's first name starts with the letter "C," will be the first to find out.
Cheers.
Can someone explain WTF is going on? Up until about 2 months ago I avoided AMPs until all this NLBC talk had me curious. Pretty sure I left with a small crush on Mina after my second visit there. For the next week or so I couldn't stop fantasizing about her smile. I Was also really looking forward to having some time with Yoona after briefly meeting her in passing.
Are you saying the arrest report someone posted about is true? Even worse, are you saying someone on this forum helped orchestrate the sting and shut them down for good?
I may be oblivious (or just plain dumbass) because I haven't been able to figure out all these shill accounts that get paid. Like RCDK mentioned earlier, there's a well established core of reliable posters that I usually scan for. If I don't see their name I tend to skip over.
Stay safe gents and happy hunting.OK, I suppose it's time for me to clear some of this up. Pennguin, NLBC has been sold once again and that is why it is closed. The police did pay a visit on Tues. 6/21, but they did not "shut it down". As a matter of fact they continued operating until Sat 6/25, when an offer was accepted for the sale. I believe they will be reopening soon but with all new talent. The girls we all know and love who used to work there (Kiki, Yuna, Mina, Lisa, Daisy, Amber etc.), will sadly no longer be available to us mongers here in SD (although The MuffMan will still be able to see some of them, Lucky me) Sorry guys, you can thank some of your fellow SD mongers for "running them out of town". If anything ever changes in the future, I will let you know.
PoonTang is correct. There has been an organized "coup", (I know that's the incorrect use of the term, but sounds about right for this for some reason), to destroy them and run them out of town. A certain monger on this board (who does have many handles) has been conspiring with, let's just say their competition, to try to ruin them. There have been criminal acts committed, as well as false accusations leveled against them with the authorities. This "monger" has been very sloppy however. I've seen the surveillance footage that PoonTang has eluded to as well. We not only have a face, we now have a positive identification and a name. I'm sure he's reading this, and will probably send me another PM from one of his other handles "fishing" for info, like he did last time I brought some of this up. I'm not going to use the "retribution" rhetoric, like PoonTang did. I would prefer to say we're looking at all legal and ethical avenues, as like I mentioned, criminal acts were committed, and work with the authorities to bring this person to justice.
Mr MuffMan.
RolfTorren
07-02-22, 21:15
Thanks King. Its an honor to be included in such illustrious company. And a sincere thanks to the hobbyists you listed. Yiu guys have really given me the opportunity to experience some amazing moments in the hobby.
Self conscious? Waylay, bro you are a respected member and always offer great intel / guidance / recommendations. Why give a shit what some of these guys think. Even if you only reviewed one spa, you will still be respected by mongers because your reviews would be honest and the girls with the positive reviews would all be incredible, and you would never discouraged anyone from going to their competitions. I can always rely on your reviews on the 2 spas, independents, non FS spas if that's where I am visiting.
Also, shout out to these other mongers for their intel and making this FUN!
If I am looking for intel about spas. I would look for your reviews, as well as those from PTJohnny, Mr. Muffman, CuriousJo8, FsSDMon. And of course Blue Sky Blue the one who got me to signed up.
If I want to know about Independents I would look for posts from. JackeRouac, Lion1, SDFitLife, Heywood, AJaxer11, BigChopper.
If I want HX, Asian agencies and FS escorts- Sir Bishop, IslandFan, Kwaze, SDPewPew, The Ass Man.
All these other gentlemen for everything else. LOL- Dog Rice, Stupitt, Denutss, DragonWolf, RolfTorren.
Thanks fellas! Happy mongering and stay safe.
The DudeInSd
07-02-22, 22:31
There has been an organized "coup", (I know that's the incorrect use of the term, but sounds about right for this for some reason), to destroy them and run them out of town.Sad because I for one miss Mina. She's amazing and she told me she's coming back to San Diego in August so I'm looking forward to it.
Strange situation.
The DudeInSd
07-02-22, 22:44
You may want to take a harder look at whom you believe as established reliable posters. Hint: They generally don't have to repeatedly support and provide admiration for their butt buddies and their butt buddies are the ones that reciprocate.
God forbid you mention police and anything VIP related to trigger USASexGuide drama central. Regardless of all that nonsense, the number one rule eliminates the shills from the thrills, true or not. If you don't like what you see or not feeling it, walk away. Most FS places are cash only, so asking if they take credit cards is the most polite way out. If a place happens to take CC or has an ATM (very rare) then just say sorry, I'm at the wrong place.Agree 100%, not really sure what people are trying to say about the Spring Valley police. I mean there are totally different City, the operation was super sketchy.
The Hillcrest location was always great because it's San Diego City and not Spring Valley so the police are totally different. The Hillcrest location had tons of cameras other businesses to deflect. This Spring Valley location was on an island and had no walls that went to the ceiling so you could hear if you're putting doing their business LOL. Total amateur League operation.
I spoke to Mina about it and she was grateful for the insight and then she remodeled everything and made the Hillcrest location much safer. I am not sure what happened there but we will see what happens in the end.
Cheers.
Mr MuffMan
07-03-22, 14:49
Not sure of the situation there. But hoping Mina might work some in the Chula Vista location as well.
Cheers.
Sad because I for one miss Mina. She's amazing and she told me she's coming back to San Diego in August so I'm looking forward to it.
Strange situation.Not sure what you're talking about here. There is, and never was, a Chula Vista location. Maybe you're thinking of another girl?
Mina from VIP / NLBC, was going to return around late July / August to work at NLBC, but that ship has sailed with NLBC being sold. She has no plans to return or work in San Diego at this time. I speak to her regularly, and if she ever does come back to work in San Diego, I would of course let everyone know.
Mr MuffMan.
RChangDatyKing
07-03-22, 16:09
Mr. Muffman and PTJohnny- thank you both for posting current and accurate information regarding VIP / NLBC. I too was a fan of Mina and all the VIP / NLBC girls and hate to see them go. Yes, please keep us all updated if Mina returns.
Not sure what you're talking about here. There is, and never was, a Chula Vista location. Maybe you're thinking of another girl?
Mina from VIP / NLBC, was going to return around late July / August to work at NLBC, but that ship has sailed with NLBC being sold. She has no plans to return or work in San Diego at this time. I speak to her regularly, and if she ever does come back to work in San Diego, I would of course let everyone know.
Mr MuffMan.
OK, I suppose it's time for me to clear some of this up. Pennguin, NLBC has been sold once again and that is why it is closed. The police did pay a visit on Tues. 6/21, but they did not "shut it down". As a matter of fact they continued operating until Sat 6/25, when an offer was accepted for the sale. I believe they will be reopening soon but with all new talent. The girls we all know and love who used to work there (Kiki, Yuna, Mina, Lisa, Daisy, Amber etc.), will sadly no longer be available to us mongers here in SD (although The MuffMan will still be able to see some of them, Lucky me) Sorry guys, you can thank some of your fellow SD mongers for "running them out of town". If anything ever changes in the future, I will let you know.
PoonTang is correct. There has been an organized "coup", (I know that's the incorrect use of the term, but sounds about right for this for some reason), to destroy them and run them out of town. A certain monger on this board (who does have many handles) has been conspiring with, let's just say their competition, to try to ruin them. There have been criminal acts committed, as well as false accusations leveled against them with the authorities. This "monger" has been very sloppy however. I've seen the surveillance footage that PoonTang has eluded to as well. We not only have a face, we now have a positive identification and a name. I'm sure he's reading this, and will probably send me another PM from one of his other handles "fishing" for info, like he did last time I brought some of this up. I'm not going to use the "retribution" rhetoric, like PoonTang did. I would prefer to say we're looking at all legal and ethical avenues, as like I mentioned, criminal acts were committed, and work with the authorities to bring this person to justice.
Mr MuffMan.
Thank you!
The ignore function, is one of the best feature on this forum, and it does work!
It would be so wonderful, if people here were allowed to actually "ENJOY" this hobby, without having these clowns with multiple shill accounts, incessantly pissing on our otherwise, fun, enjoyable hobby.
Brother- I sure wish I could buy you an IPA or a drink! Or 2!
You're the man, SDJK! I'd like to buy you a beer as well, and listen to you tell me this story again, in person!
And FTR: I don't doubt the veracity of what went down for a second. Sometimes, instinctive uninhibited animal magnetism mode between 2 in heat animals, clicks on in BOTH animals. It's rare, but when it happens, it's a truly special, mind blowing experience.
Excellent post, RCK! I absolutely agree, regarding the credible, esteemed, respectable member's here, whom you mentioned above.
When you know, you know. And WE know the M. O. Of this ONE member with his / her multiple shill accounts. And growing by the day. That Mission Impossible actor, is just 1 more shill account to this person's resume; Along with the 2 guys who "I'm not a Doctor in real life, but I play one on the USA Sex Guide. " LMAO!
The only type of people here on this forum, who would behave this way; accuse people here in this otherwise, fun exciting hobby we all enjoy / relate to each other, of being shills, would be the competition (other AMP / AAMP owners). The bottom line is: "THEY," couldn't compete (NOBODY COULD) with VIP / VIP2 when they arrived on the scene and the unprecedented experiences they have to us lucky guys. So this person / people, resorted to their ugly despicable tactics and did everything in their power, to sabotage everything these amazing girls worked so hard to bring us lucky guys. Until they finally drove them out of business / town.
I will be addressing some facts of what these girls suffered through shortly in a follow up post, and some of the personal details as to what these poor girls had to suffer through and the videos they've shared with me, which speak volumes.
I will say this: There will be retribution and hell to pay for the people responsible for doing this. I for one, am still livid, for the loss of these wonderful amazing girls of VIP / VIP2- Mina, Lisa, Cici, Layla. Diasy and Jenny (to name a few), and the terror some of the poor girls had to suffer through. And it was tactically planned, well thought out, orchestrated terror.
When this campaign of retribution begins, I promise you, it will be Biblical. And there will be other casualties who will suffer the same fate as VIP, when it's all said and done. These past 4 months. I've been patiently acquiring as much factual data on some of these people (whom I feel are the responsible parties behind VIP relentless attacks). And I too, am on the "INSIDE" now, just like this shill person on these forums was, with VIP. I'll leave it at that for now, but I've seen this person on video, at VIP2/ NLBC.
Two can play at this ugly game. And it's about to start. If this BS continues, and any other of the popular AMP's here are targeted and fall victim to this multiple account "shill" member in the future (the 1 person using at least 6 accounts).
It's game on. And the AAMP / Shill who's first name starts with the letter "C," will be the first to find out.
Cheers.
With all the BS happening with NLBC / VIP, I found it disturbing that "fellow" (and I use that term loosly) mongers have caused them to leave town. I have my suspicions as well, but it was fairly obvious from recommendations and they way you would stroke your own ego with multiple handles and such. But I digress.
I may not report too often, but I'm fairly new to the board, and have used this resource and offered my own experience and insight to help others if asked. That ended when my info was offered and caused the end of a great long term relationship I had with an escort that was built from 2008. Unless it's a mutual acquaintence, my info is for my eyes only. You're going to have to earn it or TOFTT.
But Like I said. It may not matter to some of you guys. Just know the ones I have contacted, know you are appreciated and I salute you guys who make it safe for all of us.
For those guys who caused this, "Karma's a *****". And she will piss and shit all your house and grave. Unless you're into that sort of thing.
Hopefully Amber comes back. I still want to see a tall Asian.
RolfTorren
07-04-22, 15:04
Yes Amber was phenomenal. Tall, attractive and an animal in the sack. I really hope she returns too. Or I'd willingly travel north to see her.
Hopefully Amber comes back. I still want to see a tall Asian.
The DudeInSd
07-06-22, 20:22
Man, this post gave me the best shit yet! Thanks for that.
But you are apparently oblivious that you're accusing others of what you yourself do. Those parts of your poop manifesto did give me a little diarrhea.
Thank goodness I have a bidet. LOL!Is full.
Keep on rocking in the Free world!
Man, this post gave me the best shit yet! Thanks for that.
But you are apparently oblivious that you're accusing others of what you yourself do. Those parts of your poop manifesto did give me a little diarrhea.
Thank goodness I have a bidet. LOL!Long live the bidet! I don't know how Americans have done without them for so long in our society. I've lived in Japan and Italy, both countries have a strong bidet culture. Japanese bidets should be one of the engineering marvels of the world! When I was moving back to the USA from Japan I bought an Americanized version of one., and it's my favorite household appliance. If I ever move from this house I am ripping it out and bringing it with me!
ClarkKent34
07-06-22, 21:57
Hey guys, long time lurker and first time post. I had a little scare today after hitting up a popular AMP here in San Diego: My condom slipped off unbeknownst to me while pounding the girl. She felt that it slipped off my cock entirely (I didn't even notice) and stopped the action. There was jizz inside the condom and some of it leaked or was outside the bag when she pulled it out of her. Is there a probability that my jizz could lead to pregnancy and are these girls on birth control? I'm scared to think this mishap could lead to some pregnancy.
Trusty Hairlip
07-06-22, 22:20
Can we just have a thread for the guys that get paid from 108,7 Spa, and Diamond on Hillcrest?
I mean there are basically 3 guys that are getting paid and leaving these 7 paragraph reviews of these 3 shops. I personally have left about 125 reviews outside of Cris. I have been offered money to leave reviews, but why would I do it when I have a private practice in infectious disease and I'm about to retire. I'm not looking for money. I've never taken a penny and I don't think it's fair to leave an honest review.
So again, can we just create a thread for Poontang, the muffguy, and somebody they call the king for their 3 shops?
I am not sure what it takes to create a thread, can somebody please let me know so that we can get back to honest reviews?
Thanks.I was just reading through some older posts to try and figure out what the hell is happening with the AMPs and ran across this gem.
CuriousJo8
07-07-22, 09:42
Did you talk to your partner about this? What did she say?
Hey guys, long time lurker and first time post. I had a little scare today after hitting up a popular AMP here in San Diego: My condom slipped off unbeknownst to me while pounding the girl. She felt that it slipped off my cock entirely (I didn't even notice) and stopped the action. There was jizz inside the condom and some of it leaked or was outside the bag when she pulled it out of her. Is there a probability that my jizz could lead to pregnancy and are these girls on birth control? I'm scared to think this mishap could lead to some pregnancy.
ClarkKent34
07-07-22, 10:24
Did you talk to your partner about this? What did she say?I unfortunately didn't get a chance to talk with the girl about this because it was hot and heavy and my brain wasn't really thinking that far ahead in the moment. It was only after the session when I drove away that I was like "Oh shit, I hope the jizz in the bag didn't leak into her body too much that one of my swimmers fertilized an egg" Of course, it also depends on if the girl is in her monthly menstrual cycle or not.
She seemed completely fine though and didn't express any shock or outrage when I pulled out and the condom was off, so perhaps she didn't think it was a big deal and I'm overthinking the situation. I just wanted to throw this question out there because even though they use protection, condoms are never 100% guarantee in the act and so was wondering if they're on birth control as a secondary line of protection.
ClarkKent34
07-07-22, 11:57
So I drove back to the venue where this event occurred and spoke with the girl herself. She said everything was fine and the condom was not "deep enough" when I pulled out or something to that effect and that I don't need to worry about anything. I guess I made a mountain out of a molehill. Interestingly, she also told me that she doesn't take birth control pills because they are "very unhealthy" for the body and mess up the hormones.
Hi!
I have enjoyed and learned a lot from everyone here on this forum.
So, I would like to ask a question:
I was wondering how many of y'all have ever been ghosted by a Provider?
It seems like "being ghosted" is usually related to being scammed somehow?
Is this true?
I can understand the anger when that Provider disappears after someone gave a deposit in advance as a sign of good faith.
However, what I am curious about is when you go thru the effort of scheduling a session with a Provider (no deposit in advance), but she then flakes out.
She never gave you advanced notice that she has to cancel.
How many of y'all have experienced either version this? What happened?
And, if it's not a problem / won't get you in trouble, could you share who the ones that ghosted you.
(Since we all know that Providers never use their real-life civilian names anyways).
I think that sharing this info will help us all from having to go thru your disappointment.
Think of this as a place where you could post negative reviews related to this topic.
Let's turn your lemons into lemonade!
I used to follow a couple of other forums.
I've seen some posts (reviews?) about this topic.
I also received many DM's about how certain Providers have ghosted many guys.
I ask because this forum so friendly and helpful.
There is a comradery amongst you all.
I have read so many helpful, excellent reviews / info on many different threads.
{I am very willing & happy to share about the Providers that were shared with me from those other forums}.
Thank you all for checking out this post.
I look forward to reading about your experiences.
I unfortunately didn't get a chance to talk with the girl about this because it was hot and heavy and my brain wasn't really thinking that far ahead in the moment. It was only after the session when I drove away that I was like "Oh shit, I hope the jizz in the bag didn't leak into her body too much that one of my swimmers fertilized an egg" Of course, it also depends on if the girl is in her monthly menstrual cycle or not.
She seemed completely fine though and didn't express any shock or outrage when I pulled out and the condom was off, so perhaps she didn't think it was a big deal and I'm overthinking the situation. I just wanted to throw this question out there because even though they use protection, condoms are never 100% guarantee in the act and so was wondering if they're on birth control as a secondary line of protection.You need to tell your provider, today, and she will take a plan b.
The DudeInSd
07-07-22, 16:11
she also told me that she doesn't take birth control pills because they are "very unhealthy" for the body and mess up the hormones.Ummmm now that is some funny shit.
DelMar Surfdog
07-07-22, 22:05
So this clown has left $199 comments since May 5th. Half of them are as follows. "hey bro, thank you so much for the review, I totally agree with you bro you are the man!
"Keep up the great work bro, yes these ladies are so beautiful and so awesome and I can't wait to go see them again!
100% total blow fest without any contributions of reviews and yet so many other people are constantly blowing him.
#Shitshow.
RChangDatyKing
07-08-22, 08:56
So this clown has left $199 comments since May 5th. Half of them are as follows. "hey bro, thank you so much for the review, I totally agree with you bro you are the man!
"Keep up the great work bro, yes these ladies are so beautiful and so awesome and I can't wait to go see them again!
100% total blow fest without any contributions of reviews and yet so many other people are constantly blowing him.
#Shitshow.LMAO! It's interesting for someone with 12 posts to take so much interests in me that you read all my posts going back to May 5th. I had my suspicions who your other handle is after your 5 or 6th posts. Then after your 9 or 10th posts my suspicion was almost confirmed. The above post just gave me that confirmation who I really think you are. It's funny because out of your 12 posts more than half of what you say I'm doing is exactly what you've done. You mainly spoke highly of one provider (with several names of course) similar to someone who spoke of an unpopular Chinese AAMP, but I digress. At least all my 199 posts were all under my one handle and I don't have to hide behind my "primary" handle with 700 plus posts.
It's all about credibility. At least now I believed I confirmed my suspicions. Thanks for reading my posts since May 5th. I hope you find some useful! Welcome to the forum dude!
DelMar Surfdog
07-08-22, 10:47
LMAO! It's interesting for someone with 12 posts to take so much interests in me that you read all my posts going back to May 5th. I had my suspicions who your other handle is after your 5 or 6th posts. Then after your 9 or 10th posts my suspicion was almost confirmed. The above post just gave me that confirmation who I really think you are. It's funny because out of your 12 posts more than half of what you say I'm doing is exactly what you've done. You mainly spoke highly of one provider (with several names of course) similar to someone who spoke of an unpopular Chinese AAMP, but I digress. At least all my 199 posts were all under my one handle and I don't have to hide behind my "primary" handle with 700 plus posts.
It's all about credibility. At least now I believed I confirmed my suspicions. Thanks for reading my posts since May 5th. I hope you find some useful! Welcome to the forum dude!At least I have 6 reviews. 6 more than you. Keep up the great reports bro!
RChangDatyKing
07-08-22, 10:58
At least I have 6 reviews. 6 more than you. Keep up the great reports bro!I'm sure someone appreciated those 6 reviews, even though they were all for Bora, Ari, etc. Hummmm! But I guess your other 700 plus post makes this handle credible? LMAO!
Thanks for your contribution dude.
Pete The Great
07-08-22, 11:07
So this clown has left $199 comments since May 5th. Half of them are as follows. "hey bro, thank you so much for the review, I totally agree with you bro you are the man!
"Keep up the great work bro, yes these ladies are so beautiful and so awesome and I can't wait to go see them again!
100% total blow fest without any contributions of reviews and yet so many other people are constantly blowing him.
#Shitshow.Give me a break! The datyking has provided so much useful intel I have used over the years with both the massage parlors and independent providers. He's made my hobbying infinitely easier. Who the hell are you and what have you done? I hate when these new idiots come in here and start criticizing other members, in this case a legend. Get off the board loser!
BlueSkyBlue
07-08-22, 12:02
Since you reference back to May 5, why don't you try going back a few years longer than that.
Years newbie, go back over the years and see that RChangDatyKing is an extremely valuable insight for contributor to this forum.
You show up for a few months and think you know the whole San Diego scene?
Try to live a little life before you have an opinion on life, RChangDatyKing Absolutely has walk the walk many times.
I personally think this, truly does deserve to be in the "stupid shit category".
So this clown has left $199 comments since May 5th. Half of them are as follows. "hey bro, thank you so much for the review, I totally agree with you bro you are the man!
"Keep up the great work bro, yes these ladies are so beautiful and so awesome and I can't wait to go see them again!
100% total blow fest without any contributions of reviews and yet so many other people are constantly blowing him.
#Shitshow.
MaximusKahn
07-08-22, 12:36
You not tell me I could have gotten paid to post?
Thousands of dollars? Freebies? Special "favors"?
Someone should have told me about this YEARS ago!
If I had gotten a dime for every post I'd have about 10 bucks by now!
I don't know what you are talking about here with the paid to post stuff but I post because I hate having to pay for shit others have already gone through. Escort Skyy is dittsey and half retarded but loves to cum and will flood the bed. That is good information. When I tell you her rates are gps and she is all covered with no affection at all. Now you have enough to work with. Do I want no affection, condom blow and fuck a 25 year old for 250/30 or do I want a 50 year old to BBBJ / BBFS cip for 80/30,after some hugs and licking? Information is what we turn the data into. Her data is 25/260/30. My information is "cold dead fish, either you get it up urself or it is a no go buy you still have to pay full price. ".
My only incentive here is to be as good as I get. The better my reviews the better others will be. I like that. Community. Now where is the next BBFS cip gangbang, I want to fuck a fully loaded cream filled pie.
You not tell me I could have gotten paid to post?
Thousands of dollars? Freebies? Special "favors"?
Someone should have told me about this YEARS ago!
If I had gotten a dime for every post I'd have about 10 bucks by now!
Mr MuffMan
07-08-22, 19:52
Since you reference back to May 5, why don't you try going back a few years longer than that.
Years newbie, go back over the years and see that RChangDatyKing is an extremely valuable insight for contributor to this forum.
You show up for a few months and think you know the whole San Diego scene?
Try to live a little life before you have an opinion on life, RChangDatyKing Absolutely has walk the walk many times.
I personally think this, truly does deserve to be in the "stupid shit category".Pay no attention to this A-Hole BlueSkyBlue. We know who he is. He doesn't like some of us because we prefer to have "fun" with this hobby. Like the other monger said, he's a loser.
Mr MuffMan.
DelMar Surfdog
07-08-22, 22:56
Pay no attention to this A-Hole BlueSkyBlue. We know who he is. He doesn't like some of us because we prefer to have "fun" with this hobby. Like the other monger said, he's a loser.
Mr MuffMan.It is really simple math. This guy they call the king has left comments but not one review since May. It's not that complicated people. It becomes nauseous to watch him comment about nothing. Just leave one review I mean one review is not too much to ask right?
SDJaziKing
07-09-22, 10:41
Pay no attention to this A-Hole BlueSkyBlue. We know who he is. He doesn't like some of us because we prefer to have "fun" with this hobby. Like the other monger said, he's a loser.
Mr MuffMan.I got to say, veteran mongers tend to have different fun times than the newbies though. (ie. YMMV situation tends to happen more often than usual). Then all of sudden newbies get angry about "fake" reviews. Just because she is a cold, dead fish to you, doesn't mean she's not going to have a BBFSCIP session with anybody. Learn how to be the exception surfdog.
RChangDatyKing
07-09-22, 11:46
It is really simple math. This guy they call the king has left comments but not one review since May. It's not that complicated people. It becomes nauseous to watch him comment about nothing. Just leave one review I mean one review is not too much to ask right?I didn't have to go back to May 5th to see that I left 2 reviews on 6/30/22 for Sunny Massage and Spa (great place BTW) and Convoy Massage (saw a popular well known masseuse there now). I don't have to explain shit further to you because YOU have no credibility to me. Your other handle with 700 plus reviews also has no credibility to me. Again thanks for taking interest in my posts. You should check out some of my recommended spots and maybe you can review more than just Bora and Eleven. Don't get me wrong, I love SDAG as well but I don't need to brag with another handle how many reviews you've completed.
I get that this is the "shit talking" subforum and I guess I'm glad for it, because it keeps the other threads pretty clean. But fellas, can we chill please? Some member is using a burner account to try and slander RChangDATYKing, which is totally unnecessary and also cowardly. If you have something to say, say it under your real account. I've butted heads with many of you and whether it's publicly or over DMs, we've at least used our real handles.
If anyone doesn't like King's posts, use the mute button. For me, King is a trusted monger and a great reporter of visits. If he posted a review every time he went to a massage parlor, he'd have 5 k posts. It's like, are you complaining that he posts too much or too little?
Everyone here is here for one thing: the girls. All the big names fighting with each other, you're all great reporters and I've gotten good intel from all of you. The fights start when we disagree about the girls. But that's fine. When members start beating each other up and going after who the member is, as a person, we're just creating pointless drama and not furthering the forum at all.
We don't have to get along or agree with each other, but I encourage everyone fighting in here to chill. Review your girls, comment on posts, have fun. And if things get personal, try to hash it out privately instead of trying to dunk on each other (or worse, creating fake handles to argue with each other). I'm guilty of this too, so definitely not taking any moral high ground here. Just noticing the deterioration of things and felt like speaking up. My. 02.
Mr MuffMan
07-09-22, 17:50
So this clown has left $199 comments since May 5th. Half of them are as follows. "hey bro, thank you so much for the review, I totally agree with you bro you are the man!
"Keep up the great work bro, yes these ladies are so beautiful and so awesome and I can't wait to go see them again!
100% total blow fest without any contributions of reviews and yet so many other people are constantly blowing him.
#Shitshow.
I get that this is the "shit talking" subforum and I guess I'm glad for it, because it keeps the other threads pretty clean. But fellas, can we chill please? Some member is using a burner account to try and slander RChangDATYKing, which is totally unnecessary and also cowardly. If you have something to say, say it under your real account. I've butted heads with many of you and whether it's publicly or over DMs, we've at least used our real handles.
If anyone doesn't like King's posts, use the mute button. For me, King is a trusted monger and a great reporter of visits. If he posted a review every time he went to a massage parlor, he'd have 5 k posts. It's like, are you complaining that he posts too much or too little?
Everyone here is here for one thing: the girls. All the big names fighting with each other, you're all great reporters and I've gotten good intel from all of you. The fights start when we disagree about the girls. But that's fine. When members start beating each other up and going after who the member is, as a person, we're just creating pointless drama and not furthering the forum at all.
We don't have to get along or agree with each other, but I encourage everyone fighting in here to chill. Review your girls, comment on posts, have fun. And if things get personal, try to hash it out privately instead of trying to dunk on each other (or worse, creating fake handles to argue with each other). I'm guilty of this too, so definitely not taking any moral high ground here. Just noticing the deterioration of things and felt like speaking up. My. 02.Well said Waylay. Apparently some mongers are jealous that some of us other mongers are having fun. Stupid if you ask me. Yes, if you don't like my posts, or Kings posts, or Waylay's posts, please by all means, block us. But to come on here and attack one of, if not THE most credible reviewer / monger on this forum, it's not only ridiculous, but basically crossed the line. That's why many of us came to his defense. But in the end, anyone with half a brain, can see right through this "posters" agenda. So I would encourage mongers reading this to just delete / pass over any of this "posters" posts. As they're absolutely meaningless.
Mr MuffMan.
DelMar Surfdog
07-09-22, 22:29
I didn't have to go back to May 5th to see that I left 2 reviews on 6/30/22 for Sunny.You have left 199 comments but yet on June 30th you didn't leave anything at all. You said you left reviews you did not. Convoy massage nothing. I have no idea what you're talking about. The bottom line is a little Vietnamese man you do not contribute anything other than saying hello to your Bros. Again 199 comments and not one review please contribute something Jesus Christ.
DelMar Surfdog
07-09-22, 22:33
[Deleted by Admin]
Greetings Everyone,
DelMar Surfdog posted that he/she will no longer be participating in the forum.
Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his/her membership.
Thanks,
Jackson
Actually he didn't quite he doxxed a guy but doxxing somebody is like quitting.
I also banned your real user "The DudeInSd" and am going to make it a point to ban all new users you create.
A2
SDJaziKing
07-10-22, 14:56
Greetings Everyone,
DelMar Surfdog posted that he/she will no longer be participating in the forum.
Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his/her membership.
Thanks,
Jackson
Actually he didn't quite he doxxed a guy but doxxing somebody is like quitting.
I also banned your real user "The DudeInSd" and am going to make it a point to ban all new users you create.
A2I find this to be extremely funny LOL WTF. Why bother making burner accounts to troll?
Hey all, relatively new Sr. Member to the forum but monger for quite a while. Is it just me or is some of the over-hyping of a spot kind of leading it to it's demise. Case in point is VIP and NLBC. So many people posting how those places were best ever, "crushing competition" etc. And now both are gone. Anyone aware of other spa's that have suffered the same fate because of this? I'm just curious because it would suck to have some of the other spots shut down for the same reasons like 7, 108 etc. Any thoughts?
Hey all, relatively new Sr. Member to the forum but monger for quite a while. Is it just me or is some of the over-hyping of a spot kind of leading it to it's demise. Case in point is VIP and NLBC. So many people posting how those places were best ever, "crushing competition" etc. And now both are gone. Anyone aware of other spa's that have suffered the same fate because of this? I'm just curious because it would suck to have some of the other spots shut down for the same reasons like 7, 108 etc. Any thoughts?Back in the Hana spa days I know this got them too. They had the hottest ladies and provided the best experience, especially compared to other spots in the convoy area. All the attention contributed to them closing and relocating as Pine.
Not sure there's a way to avoid this though. Seems like anytime someone posts an overwhelmingly positive review about an AMP or HX / PD / Indie girl, it inevitably leads to a lot of attention. Results in more foot traffic, eyes on a spot, menu changing, GPS etc. Can also rarely lead to other providers stepping their game up to compete. It feels like once the "cat is out of the bag", you just got to enjoy it though. I often question if it's worth leaving a review or report on some ladies, since it's already been said by others, so why restate or confirm it? It's a tough balance to maintain sometimes since some posters definitely have ulterior motives on here and I am not up to speed with some of that drama that may have played a part in VIP / NLBC closing. All good things come to an end, so joy it while you can I say.
ArrogantBstrd
07-10-22, 18:46
Hey all, relatively new Sr. Member to the forum but monger for quite a while. Is it just me or is some of the over-hyping of a spot kind of leading it to it's demise. Case in point is VIP and NLBC. So many people posting how those places were best ever, "crushing competition" etc. And now both are gone. Anyone aware of other spa's that have suffered the same fate because of this? I'm just curious because it would suck to have some of the other spots shut down for the same reasons like 7, 108 etc. Any thoughts?I'm not sure if over-hyping a spot would directly result in that spot getting shut down; However, I tend to avoid certain spots that are concurrent in monger reports. In all my travels, I've noticed that Mongers tend to follow each other--That includes the lurkers as well as the avid report writers. I'm not into fist-bumping the last guy coming out (take that as you will) and the next guy arriving. I prefer low-volume.
DrPornDawger
07-11-22, 14:18
Following the recommendations of other mongers (reviews) are for entertainment purposes only. Just like some men, I don't want sloppy seconds and enjoy that a provider cleans herself afterwards (or do they?) I prefer to get the 1st appt in the morning, but sometimes the horniness happens and I just walk in, get'er done, and I'm out happy.
In terms of service, have they really served that many men or the amount of sex they've had?
In terms of McD's, it's burgers, not customers. So if I saw Mina, multiple times, was that 1 time, or shall I record multiple times?
Following the recommendations of other mongers (reviews) are for entertainment purposes only. Just like some men, I don't want sloppy seconds and enjoy that a provider cleans herself afterwards (or do they?) I prefer to get the 1st appt in the morning, but sometimes the horniness happens and I just walk in, get'er done, and I'm out happy.
In terms of service, have they really served that many men or the amount of sex they've had?
In terms of McD's, it's burgers, not customers. So if I saw Mina, multiple times, was that 1 time, or shall I record multiple times?You can really tell who's a germaphobe when you get to know a provider a little, but some are sloppier than others. I know girls who can watch you take a shower or shower with you and they'll still make you gargle listerine and they'll spray down your hands dick balls and asshole with disinfectant spray.
Monica at 108 was amazing because she was always fresh out of the shower. She'd try to shower after every monger. Love that about her.
But, I will admit. I have sent a provider off to the next guy with a pussy full of cum. Seen her walk right into his room. Hope he did not dine at the why that day LOL.
DrPornDawger
07-11-22, 16:21
You can really tell who's a germaphobe when you get to know a provider a little, but some are sloppier than others. I know girls who can watch you take a shower or shower with you and they'll still make you gargle listerine and they'll spray down your hands dick balls and asshole with disinfectant spray.
Monica at 108 was amazing because she was always fresh out of the shower. She'd try to shower after every monger. Love that about her.
But, I will admit. I have sent a provider off to the next guy with a pussy full of cum. Seen her walk right into his room. Hope he did not dine at the why that day LOL.I have to admit, I've done that as well. I've left that provider with all my seed. Immediately as I left, I noticed the next guy knock on her door and was left in luckily he didn't notice me leaving her.
Sir Bishop
07-11-22, 16:45
You can really tell who's a germaphobe when you get to know a provider a little, but some are sloppier than others. I know girls who can watch you take a shower or shower with you and they'll still make you gargle listerine and they'll spray down your hands dick balls and asshole with disinfectant spray.
Monica at 108 was amazing because she was always fresh out of the shower. She'd try to shower after every monger. Love that about her.
But, I will admit. I have sent a provider off to the next guy with a pussy full of cum. Seen her walk right into his room. Hope he did not dine at the why that day LOL.One leaves, one comes, sloppy seconds. A story as old as sex and I'm sure the ladies have their ideas about it as well. Several ladies I've seen over the years were completely puzzled over why a guy, knowing she was just jizzed and had another guys lubricants inside her, even wanted to DATY or go bare! They even laughed at the guys that came second and dined on them. But $$ spoke louder than hygiene and they hurried one out while another one was on the way up. To the ladies I just spoke of. Well they thought their hygiene was just fine because they "wiped with baby wipes".
Unless you are in a 100% monogomous relationship, there is no guarantee of hygiene. The Asian houses / AMPs at least give you the impression of being clean with the shower / blue toast. Some Indies will also insist you shower, alone. I've seen both Asians and Indie girls go to the shower after the session, squat in the shower and clean. Bottom line to this rant? Even if you are first you may not be "first"! What about that BF she has sex with in the morning before YOU see her? Yes, that happens also.
SDJaziKing
07-12-22, 12:08
Following the recommendations of other mongers (reviews) are for entertainment purposes only. Just like some men, I don't want sloppy seconds and enjoy that a provider cleans herself afterwards (or do they?) I prefer to get the 1st appt in the morning, but sometimes the horniness happens and I just walk in, get'er done, and I'm out happy.
In terms of service, have they really served that many men or the amount of sex they've had?
In terms of McD's, it's burgers, not customers. So if I saw Mina, multiple times, was that 1 time, or shall I record multiple times?To be honest, sometimes DFKing with a provider who is well-reviewed for CIM makes you double think about the action. But then, as long as I don't taste someone else's cum, shit I'm golden.
I'm not sure if over-hyping a spot would directly result in that spot getting shut down; However, I tend to avoid certain spots that are concurrent in monger reports. In all my travels, I've noticed that Mongers tend to follow each other--That includes the lurkers as well as the avid report writers. I'm not into fist-bumping the last guy coming out (take that as you will) and the next guy arriving. I prefer low-volume.I don't like crowded restaurants, waiting for a table, distracted servers, etc. . . Finding hidden treasures and a businesses slow times is my current joy with this hobby.
Concerning over-hyped places getting shut down more so than others? I think San Diego's spa history can speak to that. Many spas that are rarely reported or have zero reports have been shutdown for various reasons. The spas mentioned the most get the most attention when something happens because they were so popular, but how many times have we read about a spa being closed that we've never been to? Short memories will have to look at this forum pre-pandemic, but pay attention to future closures from little known spas.
BTW, Rafela was recently closed and now reopened under new ownership. Same name and same services in case anyone is wondering. You may be pleasantly surprised with some of the ladies you'll see there.
Don't you feel foolish now after trying to convince a popular working girl, with what I'm told was a very detailed analysis, that I was DelMar Surfdog. LOL!
As you're aware, she never believed you in the first place, but I don't blame you. She is a siren, but really? Don't worry buddy, I was looking out for you and told her it was probably petty jealousy that motivated your actions. A forgivable offense in this business so you can still go see her.
While some may claim to be "best friends" with some of these working girls, I wouldn't say that as that would make any reference to them biased or simply my own wishful thinking. However, developing a kinship with these working ladies is something I value more than busting a nut. There are plenty of fish in the sea, but when you find a mermaid that values you as much as you value them, you treasure it like your own flesh and blood. That bond supersedes any "good customer" or "old customer" relationship.
Let's please get back to enjoying and supporting these working girls without the drama.
Deleted by Admin
Greetings Everyone,
DelMar Surfdog posted that he/she will no longer be participating in the forum.
Pursuant to Forum Policy, I have deleted this resignation post and retired his/her membership.
Thanks,
Jackson
Actually he didn't quite he doxxed a guy but doxxing somebody is like quitting.
I also banned your real user "The DudeInSd" and am going to make it a point to ban all new users you create.
A2
SDJaziKing
07-12-22, 18:18
Don't you feel foolish now after trying to convince a popular working girl, with what I'm told was a very detailed analysis, that I was DelMar Surfdog. LOL!
As you're aware, she never believed you in the first place, but I don't blame you. She is a siren, but really? Don't worry buddy, I was looking out for you and told her it was probably petty jealousy that motivated your actions. A forgivable offense in this business so you can still go see her.
While some may claim to be "best friends" with some of these working girls, I wouldn't say that as that would make any reference to them biased or simply my own wishful thinking. However, developing a kinship with these working ladies is something I value more than busting a nut. There are plenty of fish in the sea, but when you find a mermaid that values you as much as you value them, you treasure it like your own flesh and blood. That bond supersedes any "good customer" or "old customer" relationship.
Let's please get back to enjoying and supporting these working girls without the drama.I'm still rather shocked to hear there's whole bunch of shit drama happening in the back. Hobbying doesn't need to be transactional only but jeez, easy guys LOL.
Hello gentlemen. I'd like to start by saying that I very much appreciate this forum and the community that has grown around it. Here, we've been afforded an opportunity to seek out those things we are interested in and even to experience those others that perhaps we were never aware existed or could be of interest to us. I am grateful for the knowledge, experience, and anecdotes that are shared here and which have been very helpful in making my efforts more fruitful. Many of you already know that I am more than happy to share my own experiences when my time permits. Having said all that, I may now be risking taking a stance that may prove unpopular with some. That is, I don't fucking care who gets what for free, who pays less for what, or whether my mileage varies. It's part of the game we play and I am not troubled that others are more astute at receiving the aforementioned gifts from the phenomenal women we all seek. If anything, God bless them for getting freebies and gimmies. Not a single one of us would decline such an offer in exchange for a review that is honest but favorable. All I propose is that we take this forum for what it is, an opportunity to share and build community. If some members want to spend hours debating, arguing, and spewing hateful rhetoric then I will simply ignore it and mine the information that is useful for me from their comments. Believe me, I have never had a bad experience with any of the ladies or places that have been shared here favorably before. So who gives a shit what the transactional component of the arrangement was between a member and a provider? Please, just focus on the purpose of this forum and put suppositions and jealousy aside. Let's just get along and hope that we continue to be as fortunate through our shared information as we all have been already. Thanks for reading.
Trusty Hairlip
07-17-22, 09:54
Hello gentlemen. I'd like to start by saying that I very much appreciate this forum and the community that has grown around it. Here, we've been afforded an opportunity to seek out those things we are interested in and even to experience those others that perhaps we were never aware existed or could be of interest to us. I am grateful for the knowledge, experience, and anecdotes that are shared here and which have been very helpful in making my efforts more fruitful. Many of you already know that I am more than happy to share my own experiences when my time permits. Having said all that, I may now be risking taking a stance that may prove unpopular with some. That is, I don't fucking care who gets what for free, who pays less for what, or whether my mileage varies. It's part of the game we play and I am not troubled that others are more astute at receiving the aforementioned gifts from the phenomenal women we all seek. If anything, God bless them for getting freebies and gimmies. Not a single one of us would decline such an offer in exchange for a review that is honest but favorable. All I propose is that we take this forum for what it is, an opportunity to share and build community. If some members want to spend hours debating, arguing, and spewing hateful rhetoric then I will simply ignore it and mine the information that is useful for me from their comments. Believe me, I have never had a bad experience with any of the ladies or places that have been shared here favorably before. So who gives a shit what the transactional component of the arrangement was between a member and a provider? Please, just focus on the purpose of this forum and put suppositions and jealousy aside. Let's just get along and hope that we continue to be as fortunate through our shared information as we all have been already. Thanks for reading.I think the purpose of this forum is to provide accurate information and to be helpful to fellow mongers. It is not helpful when someone is being paid (paid in free service, or kickback or whatever) to post false reports in an attempt to increase business to a specific girl or group. Or, to do the opposite, and talk shit about a girl / organization in an attempt to hurt their business.
Concur. I would like to further add that reposting ads and reiterating the obvious in an attempt to obtain free service, kickback, or just plain attempt to get the providers to see you outside of the hobby.
I think the purpose of this forum is to provide accurate information and to be helpful to fellow mongers. It is not helpful when someone is being paid (paid in free service, or kickback or whatever) to post false reports in an attempt to increase business to a specific girl or group. Or, to do the opposite, and talk shit about a girl / organization in an attempt to hurt their business.
CityboysUp
07-18-22, 00:01
Hello gentlemen. I'd like to start by saying that I very much appreciate this forum and the community that has grown around it. Here, we've been afforded an opportunity to seek out those things we are interested in and even to experience those others that perhaps we were never aware existed or could be of interest to us. I am grateful for the knowledge, experience, and anecdotes that are shared here and which have been very helpful in making my efforts more fruitful. Many of you already know that I am more than happy to share my own experiences when my time permits. Having said all that, I may now be risking taking a stance that may prove unpopular with some. That is, I don't fucking care who gets what for free, who pays less for what, or whether my mileage varies. It's part of the game we play and I am not troubled that others are more astute at receiving the aforementioned gifts from the phenomenal women we all seek. If anything, God bless them for getting freebies and gimmies. Not a single one of us would decline such an offer in exchange for a review that is honest but favorable. All I propose is that we take this forum for what it is, an opportunity to share and build community. If some members want to spend hours debating, arguing, and spewing hateful rhetoric then I will simply ignore it and mine the information that is useful for me from their comments. Believe me, I have never had a bad experience with any of the ladies or places that have been shared here favorably before. So who gives a shit what the transactional component of the arrangement was between a member and a provider? Please, just focus on the purpose of this forum and put suppositions and jealousy aside. Let's just get along and hope that we continue to be as fortunate through our shared information as we all have been already. Thanks for reading.That's great and all, but this former member was divisive as hell. Anytime anyone made an honest negative remark about the girls he represented, he would lash out at them. And not only that, they used to post negative reviews here and on TER until they got called out for it. And then he would create mediocre but slightly positive reviews for girls from non-SDAG or Cris's Crap group to make it seem like he was impartial. He would always make glowing review for girls that were CLEARLY not good and likely not getting enough bookings. If you can't understand that person's intentions now, then you're very naive.
This behavior is unacceptable. And the number of alternate accounts posting reviews and shilling the original ad is overwhelming. I am confident there are still several accounts that are tied to them simply based on the content. No one else is posting any kind of crap in favor of any the masseuses at Cris's group, because they are overpriced and not good to look at.
RolfTorren
07-18-22, 00:25
Agreed. That Dude and his many clones effectively poisoned honest discussion here with self-serving disinformation. I'm now "moderated" because I dared to question the integrity of one such clone. So be it. Sure, we can all "just get along" so long as we all play fair. I think it was allowed tonfester for far too long. And its not over yet by a long shot.
That's great and all, but this former member was divisive as hell. Anytime anyone made an honest negative remark about the girls he represented, he would lash out at them. And not only that, they used to post negative reviews here and on TER until they got called out for it. And then he would create mediocre but slightly positive reviews for girls from non-SDAG or Cris's Crap group to make it seem like he was impartial. He would always make glowing review for girls that were CLEARLY not good and likely not getting enough bookings. If you can't understand that person's intentions now, then you're very naive.
This behavior is unacceptable. And the number of alternate accounts posting reviews and shilling the original ad is overwhelming. I am confident there are still several accounts that are tied to them simply based on the content. No one else is posting any kind of crap in favor of any the masseuses at Cris's group, because they are overpriced and not good to look at.
Sir Bishop
07-18-22, 19:37
Agreed. That Dude and his many clones effectively poisoned honest discussion here with self-serving disinformation. I'm now "moderated" because I dared to question the integrity of one such clone. So be it. Sure, we can all "just get along" so long as we all play fair. I think it was allowed tonfester for far too long. And its not over yet by a long shot.I was told to stop "arguing" with those clones or I would be moderated. And that was the first month one of the clones appeared on the board. First question that hit me when I saw the notice of the removal, "how do you know which clone he is"? What I do know about websites is this. Every time you visit a site, your IP address, Device Name, User name, etc are captured in a log. What the public can't see in a post is the IP Address of the poster. Doesn't take much to gather data on the IP Address and associate it with a User then check the email address of that user. That's all part of the backend of this system. Easy to track people.
Now that I wake up every morning to bacon and can't but wonder of these admins are going to start researching and see if these new clones go back to a dude. Geolocation will certainly help them. No, this is not over by a long shot.
Concur. I would like to further add that reposting ads and reiterating the obvious in an attempt to obtain free service, kickback, or just plain attempt to get the providers to see you outside of the hobby.Personally I don't mind reading the shills because I unapologetically support these working girls and I know how to walk away. If a monger gets a pass on the house fee for a favorable report, that's cool, just like getting discounts or freebies from any business that appreciates a good report on Yelp, Google, etcetera, but. . .
It's the leaches that expect or demand a freebie for writing a shill report that chaps my ass. Sometimes threatening to do the opposite, write a bad report or report to the police if not compensated in some way.
It's unfortunate that some spas have literally succumbed to paying some mongers for reports. When I'm offered this from a spa, I'm quick to politely refuse but realize I'm not the only one that's been made this offer. Easy for me to tell who's who on the forums. Even some well respected members have become corrupted, but lately many reports really help with my bowel movements when I'm on the can. My favorite time to catch up on this forum. LOL!
Reading some of these mongers ass fucking each other reminds me of the first time I saw Brokeback Mountain. The homo scenes were nauseating to watch, but I just had to know what was happening.
Oh well, if the spas feel it's worth it, then more power to them, but I have no respect for the mongers that are basically taking advantage of these spas and taking credibility away from the forum. In the grand scheme of things it doesn't effect me so que sara sara, but I do feel a bit sorry for the newbies and the gullible. That's why I always preach the number one rule. . .
No matter what you've read, if you don't like what you see or not feeling it, walk away.
This can be said for any service related business. My eyes always roll when I read a report that starts with something like "I should've walked away, but. . ." proceeded by a bad report. Trust your instincts especially at AMPs.
The San Diego area is the Macau for AMPs. If your not lucky at one AMP, you've got hundreds of others to go to. Also know that your luck is always changing at some spas so take a break from a spa, but never cross them off your list. Personally, the hunt is just as much fun as the kill and I always go back to an old hunting ground as the AMP scene is as dynamic as life itself.
I'm more concerned about the mongers, clones, whatever that diss and try to extort these spas by threatening to get them busted, pretending to be police and other tactics that cause distress to these spas, girls and generally fuck up the service for the good mongers that appreciate these working girls.
I'd really like to see more mongers calling out these types of assholes more so than each other. With some mongers claiming to be good friends with some spas and girls they must hear about these ass fucks and be able to obtain videos and photos to share and warn other spas and girls. Trust me, the AMP network is tight and just sharing with a girl or two has an exponential effect.
If you want to really be appreciated by these spas and girls, help protect them from these assholes.
And to those worried about the shills, just learn how to walk away and it's all good.
Personally I don't mind reading the shills because I unapologetically support these working girls and I know how to walk away. If a monger gets a pass on the house fee for a favorable report, that's cool, just like getting discounts or freebies from any business that appreciates a good report on Yelp, Google, etcetera,.The thing with the dude and his reviews is once you have explored one or two of what he had shilled you have calibrated your threshold. For me if the dude shilled it. It was likely no good. Saved me a lot of time.
The thing with the dude and his reviews is once you have explored one or two of what he had shilled you have calibrated your threshold. For me if the dude shilled it. It was likely no good. Saved me a lot of time.I think you have forgotten that "the dude" was a big fan of NLBC which was no doubt one of the premier FS spots after some of the VIP personnel acquired it. The same could be said for VIP Spring Valley when this group initially acquired that location even though though it's facilities were lacking.
I have yet to see a valid explanation for why NLBC closed, but hopefully this group will open another location in San Diego as they seem to have a knack for finding some of the best talent San Diego has ever seen. Also, has anyone else noticed how some of the other spas had to step up their game to be competitive?
Competition breeds excellence.
MaximusKahn
07-21-22, 10:05
I can't speak for others but I seem to be attracted to, and find, the spas and women who don't want me to tell our secrets. I'm very much into UTR action.
I'm also anonymous at the spas and on this site, and have never been asked to post.
IMHO, any "report" or post that is a first hand experience and genuine I can appreciate.
It is easy to suspect any report that is grossly over the top to be a shill. For that matter any report that is leaning towards warning others about something is equally suspicious. A monger can give an honest poor report with out making it sound like a warning.
We can all apply the "YMWV" lenses to a report we read and make our own judgment as to it's validity.
Many Mongers are known by the girls by name and by their handle here, thus also making me suspicious of their motives and intent. But even if a monger knows the girls, spa owners, mms, they can still give a honest positive report that is useful. So long as it is first hand knowledge by their own experience.
One style of report that always makes me laugh are the guys who tell us where where they "plan" to go, or praise the places they have to check out, and never follow up. Or the ones who toss out a lot of names and say any one will make you happy without giving personal details of their own experiences with them. These guys are clearly shilling for a thrilling in some way.
They also tend to be the piggy back posters, who reinforce what other post. Or parrot back what others have said adding nothing new.
If someone knows the girls personally, reports positively and gets a little back, I'm okay with that so long as the report is honest.
And so long as they don't keep flooding the site with repeats, piggy back, or parrot posts.
CityboysUp
07-22-22, 12:37
I know you guys probably think these are just overzealous supporters, but you should guy be aware that this forum is frequented very often by bookers and pimps. As I have stated to others privately, I will say it here now. I'm pretty certain that was a booker or someone affiliated with management. They have a strong incentive to get you to check out their business, and at some point it started becoming really unethical.
They didn't put up reports for their more popular members for obvious reasons. The reports would always come for usually newer girls or girls whose business was likely slowly down. And this would be okay to do in my opinion. If they were accurate reports. But they weren't. All the girls did not look like their pictures, and they would always say, "we don't post real pictures to protect their identities". Yeah okay that's great, but they LITERALLY look nothing like the picture that was posted.
And the excessive amount of name changes for some girls. You guys are aware of why they do this right? If a girl has a bad rep or is simply not getting enough business, they keep rebranding the girl. And then they try to package the shit back to us as if we don't know any better. That's not good. If the girls don't look as good or don't provide good service, they should be punished with fewer customers until they do better.
Does Petra need a name change? No. Does Ash need a name change? No. Even Tatum, does she need a name change? No, because they either provide good service, look good, or both.
And then there were rumors that might have been true that this person was sabotaging operations at NLBC and VIP to promote Cris's girls. And that group literally sucks but they keep getting glowing reports here, even though the reports on TER are mediocre for the price.
This is all bad for mongers. It's very bad business.
ArrogantBstrd
07-22-22, 14:54
How do you even get invited to "shill"? If I'm understanding everyone's long ass posts correctly, shilling means writing some report in return for free house fees? Something along those lines? How do you come to that arrangement? Do you just show up and say, "Hi! I'm ArrogantBsttrd from ISG/USG/TER/HX. " LOL
I guess it makes since it's mostly the AAMPs that have house fees. I typically roll with independents and sugar babies. No house fees.
Some bold, loser, ass fucks offer their shill services. Some regulars are offered to shill because of reports a spa manager liked.
It's become more than just a free pass on the house. It's become a side business for this new breed of professional shiller's being paid $500, $1000+ for their shill reports.
Anyone with some intelligence should be able to figure out who's up to these shillanigons, but. . .
Just remember the number one rule: No matter what you've read or heard, if you don't like what you see or not feeling it, walk away.
There are many ways to politely walk away. Most FS places only take cash, so asking if they take credit cards is a polite way out. At spas that do take credit cards, ask if Felicia works there. Nobody named Felicia works at any AMPs and if they think you said Fellatio and say "yes" I'd take a chance.
How do you even get invited to "shill"? If I'm understanding everyone's long ass posts correctly, shilling means writing some report in return for free house fees? Something along those lines? How do you come to that arrangement? Do you just show up and say, "Hi! I'm ArrogantBsttrd from ISG/USG/TER/HX. " LOL
I guess it makes since it's mostly the AAMPs that have house fees. I typically roll with independents and sugar babies. No house fees.
How do you even get invited to "shill"? If I'm understanding everyone's long ass posts correctly, shilling means writing some report in return for free house fees? Something along those lines? How do you come to that arrangement? Do you just show up and say, "Hi! I'm ArrogantBsttrd from ISG/USG/TER/HX. " LOL
I guess it makes since it's mostly the AAMPs that have house fees. I typically roll with independents and sugar babies. No house fees.Just wanted to point out the title. All I got to say is "Golden Era Souls". Never thought I'd see it used in here! Hahaha.
But forreal. Props on that one!
Carry on!
CityboysUp
07-22-22, 20:20
How do you even get invited to "shill"? If I'm understanding everyone's long ass posts correctly, shilling means writing some report in return for free house fees? Something along those lines? How do you come to that arrangement? Do you just show up and say, "Hi! I'm ArrogantBsttrd from ISG/USG/TER/HX. " LOL
I guess it makes since it's mostly the AAMPs that have house fees. I typically roll with independents and sugar babies. No house fees.Where do I sign up? Hahaha.
There are no shills here, just bookers / pimps advertising their product and mongers sharing their experiences with others.
PoonTangJohnny
07-22-22, 23:16
First & foremost: One would assume / hope, that the Admin / moderator's who spend their valuable time policing this forum, are hobbyists to some degree in their own right. I only say this, because hopefully one of them is an AMP hobbyist and can hopefully relate and empathize with what we hobbyist have lost here!? All I'm asking for, is hopefully a little empathy / fairness, for everything that has transpired here in this AMP sub-forum and on the outside, these past few months, driving VIP / VIP2 out of business and out of San Diego.
Can someone explain WTF is going on? Up until about 2 months ago I avoided AMPs until all this NLBC talk had me curious. Pretty sure I left with a small crush on Mina after my second visit there. For the next week or so I couldn't stop fantasizing about her smile. I Was also really looking forward to having some time with Yoona after briefly meeting her in passing.
Are you saying the arrest report someone posted about is true? Even worse, are you saying someone on this forum helped orchestrate the sting and shut them down for good?
I may be oblivious (or just plain dumbass) because I haven't been able to figure out all these shill accounts that get paid. Like RCDK mentioned earlier, there's a well established core of reliable posters that I usually scan for. If I don't see their name I tend to skip over.
Stay safe gents and happy hunting.Please read JuvyNiled (post #433), he pretty much nailed it in his spot on assessment.
And FWIW, you and me both (regarding VIP / Mina), brother! This is exactly what we're saying happened and went down! The AAMP's and this 1 shill with all of his untold countless multiple USA shill accounts (I'd be willing to guesstiimate around 20+ currently, and counting), working in concert here, to accomplish their objective. And what they did here, and what they did on the outside (terrorizing these girls), is f-ing disgusting and needs to be dealt with. Or this is what they will continue to do anytime there is any new competition here taking away business revenue away from them. The fact that there are so many member's here, who actually feed into this 1 pathetic asshole / coward, and what he's doing / done, is quite astounding!
The bottom line: Nobody, & I repeat, NOBODY, here in San Diego, (AMP or AAMP), could compete with the level of service that VIP / VIP 2 was providing to us hobbyist, and the lost revenue was hitting them in their pocket books big time, so they resorted to both sabotage and vandalism and attacked them in every way possible until they finally succeeded in driving them out of town.
The disgusting low level (criminal terror) this thug stooped to, driving VIP out of town. And cost us hobbyist (some of us) some of the most amazing times we've ever experienced (and that includes independents and travelling abroad for me anyway).
So what did this lowlife COWARD POS do? He went out not once, but twice (in the early morning am All masked up dressed in black) around 2-3 am And armed with a pipe, and smashed in the big front window and front door, terrorizing the 3 girls as they were sleeping in their front quarters, less than 10 feet away. This happened on 2 different nights and cost the VIP owner's over $2 k to repair the damages. I've watched both videos many times. And when you think about Mina, and Lisa, and Cici. And all the other girls, who had to work / live in fear, for what, giving us the most amazing service (threesomes) many of us have ever experienced!? And that's not mentioning all of the calls / letters to the LEO / Social Services / Fed's forcing them to do their welfare checks to investigate the human sexual trafficking / underage girls constantly being anonymously reported.
I can tell you this: These girls at VIP read everything here, & they really appreciated the support / wonderful reviews, but despised this 1 A-hole (Dude / Ryan / Jizalot and Jaguar-all 1 in the same) just to name a few of his countless USA accounts. Go back to December of 21 and read these guys posts and connect the dots. It's crystal clear his M. O. And what his objective was. Thinking he's being overly clever; but he's clearly not. He started with 108 when they were getting popular and monopolizing all the business / reviews here, saying they were unsafe and all the traffic would get them busted (did everything towards 108 until VIP took this hobby to the next level providing most insane service we've ever seen in San Diego County. Which took 108 off his cross hairs.
OK, I suppose it's time for me to clear some of this up. Pennguin, NLBC has been sold once again and that is why it is closed. The police did pay a visit on Tues. 6/21, but they did not "shut it down". As a matter of fact they continued operating until Sat 6/25, when an offer was accepted for the sale. I believe they will be reopening soon but with all new talent. The girls we all know and love who used to work there (Kiki, Yuna, Mina, Lisa, Daisy, Amber etc.), will sadly no longer be available to us mongers here in SD (although The MuffMan will still be able to see some of them, Lucky me) Sorry guys, you can thank some of your fellow SD mongers for "running them out of town". If anything ever changes in the future, I will let you know.
PoonTang is correct. There has been an organized "coup", (I know that's the incorrect use of the term, but sounds about right for this for some reason), to destroy them and run them out of town. A certain monger on this board (who does have many handles) has been conspiring with, let's just say their competition, to try to ruin them. There have been criminal acts committed, as well as false accusations leveled against them with the authorities. This "monger" has been very sloppy however. I've seen the surveillance footage that PoonTang has eluded to as well. We not only have a face, we now have a positive identification and a name. I'm sure he's reading this, and will probably send me another PM from one of his other handles "fishing" for info, like he did last time I brought some of this up. I'm not going to use the "retribution" rhetoric, like PoonTang did. I would prefer to say we're looking at all legal and ethical avenues, as like I mentioned, criminal acts were committed, and work with the authorities to bring this person to justice.
Mr MuffMan.Many of us here, lost one of the most amazing, mind blowing fantasy hot Disneyland we've ever experienced. And I lived in S / E Asia for 2+ years.
Whatever I may, or may not do, will be on the up and up. I want to make that perfectly clear! I wouldn't dare ever behave in the low life despicable criminal manner, this pathetic coward did. And that's exactly what this person I've seen on camera is: A fat truck tire for a waistline, ugly gray haired POS COWARD. Who's not a Doctor in real life, but he plays one here on the internet. And all that fine dining this person has to do with with the ladies to get laid. It's no wonder, he's got to pay for sex and shill for Cris. And SDAG. None of these girls would ever agree to see him, othewise!
Mr. Muffman and PTJohnny- thank you both for posting current and accurate information regarding VIP / NLBC. I too was a fan of Mina and all the VIP / NLBC girls and hate to see them go. Yes, please keep us all updated if Mina returns.
With all the BS happening with NLBC / VIP, I found it disturbing that "fellow" (and I use that term loosly) mongers have caused them to leave town. I have my suspicions as well, but it was fairly obvious from recommendations and they way you would stroke your own ego with multiple handles and such. But I digress.
I may not report too often, but I'm fairly new to the board, and have used this resource and offered my own experience and insight to help others if asked. That ended when my info was offered and caused the end of a great long term relationship I had with an escort that was built from 2008. Unless it's a mutual acquaintence, my info is for my eyes only. You're going to have to earn it or TOFTT.
But Like I said. It may not matter to some of you guys. Just know the ones I have contacted, know you are appreciated and I salute you guys who make it safe for all of us.
For those guys who caused this, "Karma's a *****". And she will piss and shit all your house and grave. Unless you're into that sort of thing.FWIW: If I seen passionate and angry over what went down and what these innocent girls were put through; it's because I am! I've received many PM's from a few of the really awesome "nice reputable trusted guys" here, and I've exchanged a lot of Intel with these member's, helping them and providing them with contact information / intel with these girls / VIP / VIP2 to try and help them along. I don't need anybody's approval / validation here, these girls know who I am & when they came into town and arrived on the scene, I was a loyal customer and they became my only go to action in town.
And I was greatly rewarded of my loyalty, with perks! I'm sure not too many other guys got to enjoy; the unicorn type services. As well as the on about half a dozen different occasions, when VIP2 was under supposedly under renovation (NEWS ALERT: THEY WERE'NT).
I was given Carte Blanche VIP2 privileges and would have the entire place to myself along with 2 girls who would make the drive over from VIP in SV around 11 p,m. And 2 other times when Cici over there alone and met me. Complete with candles, champagne and music.
So fuck yeah, if I'm feeling "pretty mother fucking far from ok" at the moment- It's because I am! We will never, ever, get this level of VIP Disneyland service back.
And anyone who really got to know some of these girls- they were true genuine sweethearts, and very kind heart-ed people.
What I will say is this, (I'm only pontificating hypothetical's here): It would be very easy (much easier than the ugly criminal tactics used against an AMP / VIP), to disrupt an illegal business operation (prostitution) in a residential community (condominium / town-homes), taking place right next door to families / children, governed by HOA's / Office management,. It really wouldn't take much for neighbors to start taking notice, with all the foot traffic coming and going along with the ads and reviews documenting everything. Especially if someone was on the inside and privy to highly protected information. I know for a fact, that Cris, and that agency that uses 4 letter's, operate, is such places.
FWIW: I'm now, a level 3 HX member.
Cheers LOL.
RChangDatyKing
07-23-22, 10:53
That's great and all, but this former member was divisive as hell. Anytime anyone made an honest negative remark about the girls he represented, he would lash out at them. And not only that, they used to post negative reviews here and on TER until they got called out for it. And then he would create mediocre but slightly positive reviews for girls from non-SDAG or Cris's Crap group to make it seem like he was impartial. He would always make glowing review for girls that were CLEARLY not good and likely not getting enough bookings. If you can't understand that person's intentions now, then you're very naive.
This behavior is unacceptable. And the number of alternate accounts posting reviews and shilling the original ad is overwhelming. I am confident there are still several accounts that are tied to them simply based on the content. No one else is posting any kind of crap in favor of any the masseuses at Cris's group, because they are overpriced and not good to look at.
Agreed. That Dude and his many clones effectively poisoned honest discussion here with self-serving disinformation. I'm now "moderated" because I dared to question the integrity of one such clone. So be it. Sure, we can all "just get along" so long as we all play fair. I think it was allowed tonfester for far too long. And its not over yet by a long shot.You both are spot on! He has at least 2 more accounts. When both handles' FIRST reviews are for the same AAMP that has averaged looking girls, over priced for lack of service and shorting mongers on time, etc. When there are hundreds of AMPs and 2 great Korean AAMPs in town, it's very obvious and highly suspicious.
RChangDatyKing
07-23-22, 13:02
I was told to stop "arguing" with those clones or I would be moderated. And that was the first month one of the clones appeared on the board. First question that hit me when I saw the notice of the removal, "how do you know which clone he is"? What I do know about websites is this. Every time you visit a site, your IP address, Device Name, User name, etc are captured in a log. What the public can't see in a post is the IP Address of the poster. Doesn't take much to gather data on the IP Address and associate it with a User then check the email address of that user. That's all part of the backend of this system. Easy to track people.
Now that I wake up every morning to bacon and can't but wonder of these admins are going to start researching and see if these new clones go back to a dude. Geolocation will certainly help them. No, this is not over by a long shot.
Agreed. That Dude and his many clones effectively poisoned honest discussion here with self-serving disinformation. I'm now "moderated" because I dared to question the integrity of one such clone. So be it. Sure, we can all "just get along" so long as we all play fair. I think it was allowed tonfester for far too long. And its not over yet by a long shot.I too am being moderated now and was told to stop arguing with the dbags. Yes, the Dude and his clones poisoned honest discussions and yes it's not over because there is one more member with upwards of 10 handles that is worse IMO. He's easy to spot if you look back at the dialogues between him (and his 10 plus clones with Dude and his handles). I don't respond to these yahoos anymore. I will post my experiences, knowledge, respond to trusted mongers to confirm my experiences.
Mr MuffMan
07-23-22, 14:34
I can't speak for others but I seem to be attracted to, and find, the spas and women who don't want me to tell our secrets. I'm very much into UTR action.
I'm also anonymous at the spas and on this site, and have never been asked to post.
IMHO, any "report" or post that is a first hand experience and genuine I can appreciate.
It is easy to suspect any report that is grossly over the top to be a shill. For that matter any report that is leaning towards warning others about something is equally suspicious. A monger can give an honest poor report with out making it sound like a warning.
We can all apply the "YMWV" lenses to a report we read and make our own judgment as to it's validity.
Many Mongers are known by the girls by name and by their handle here, thus also making me suspicious of their motives and intent. But even if a monger knows the girls, spa owners, mms, they can still give a honest positive report that is useful. So long as it is first hand knowledge by their own experience.
One style of report that always makes me laugh are the guys who tell us where where they "plan" to go, or praise the places they have to check out, and never follow up. Or the ones who toss out a lot of names and say any one will make you happy without giving personal details of their own experiences with them. These guys are clearly shilling for a thrilling in some way.
They also tend to be the piggy back posters, who reinforce what other post. Or parrot back what others have said adding nothing new.
If someone knows the girls personally, reports positively and gets a little back, I'm okay with that so long as the report is honest.
And so long as they don't keep flooding the site with repeats, piggy back, or parrot posts.I mostly agree with this. I would say I was a shill for VIP and NLBC, I'll admit it. My definition of a shill is someone promoting a certain business or product. But I never got anything for free, or was paid, or anything like that. I'm simply good friends with one of the owners, so I tried to help by promoting their product. Every review I did though was firsthand, 100% honest and all those girls were absolutely incredible! Many many senior members here will back me up on this, as they too had amazing experiences with these girls. I would also receive many PM's from newer mongers, thanking me for my recommendations, and telling me how they had such an incredible experience with one of the girls. So, the way I see it, I was helping out both the girls and our monger community, it was a win / win situation.
What I never do though is discourage mongers from going to other spas. And that's where I have a real problem. There are a couple mongers here (well one I guess is no longer here, although he's already resurfacing with new handles. And we all know who the other one is and his 10+ handles. And yes, IMO, it's TWO different people), who literally would say things like, if you go to VIP in Spring Valley, you risk being mugged or getting arrested. What the hell is that? And one of these "mongers" conspired with the "competition" to commit criminal acts and leveled false accusations against them with the authorities (we have proof of this). So yeah, that's kinda where I draw the line.
Mr MuffMan.
SDJaziKing
07-23-22, 17:09
if you go to VIP in Spring Valley, you risk being mugged or getting arrested.
Mr MuffMan.Lots of other mongers (including myself) preferred NLBC location than Spring Valley, simply because it was more secured and safe location. If you really think about how reckless the whole operation was, it's actually mind blowing. Girls walking around the hallway completely naked sometimes, wearing no panties under super short dress, whole parlor sounds like a fuckfest if fully occupied and shit. While it might make you feel like you're in Disneyland of Porn to experience the sensory overload, it's extremely delusional. It was rather a SUPER risky operation. Don't get me wrong, I too was addicted to the services they offered and the beauty they provided but I'm just glad I didn't get my ass busted by LEs because the heat was getting really hot at that place. Who can I blame, I am a risk-chaser though.
And on a completely side note, they honestly got to San Diego in December and began operating like they were trying to take over the whole city LOL. Yes, the services they provided far exceeds the quality of other spas, there's no doubt about that. But if you are going to jump into an unregulated, rather illegal market, you should do your research first. I honestly think the services they provided should've cost more than $$, for the sake of preventing any competitor's reckless behavior. Competitors do pop up here and there, ALL THE TIME. What they DON'T usually do is disrupting the market price.
I mean come on, tons of mongers reported paying only $$ for a threesome as soon as they began to be noticed by us mongers. Not just a threesome but a mind-blowing threesome with insatiably beautiful Chinese girls. Can you imagine how many of other mongers got instantly interested / attracted by those posts? Try selling high grade pure cocaine for 20 bux a gram for months. I'm sure you will be found dead on the street in no time, not by cops but by other competitors. Some of you mongers call them innocent, but I got to call them naive instead. Just purely from a business perspective. Street is tough boys. If you know, you know.
SDJaziKing
07-23-22, 17:16
I too am being moderated now and was told to stop arguing with the dbags. Yes, the Dude and his clones poisoned honest discussions and yes it's not over because there is one more member with upwards of 10 handles that is worse IMO. He's easy to spot if you look back at the dialogues between him (and his 10 plus clones with Dude and his handles). I don't respond to these yahoos anymore. I will post my experiences, knowledge, respond to trusted mongers to confirm my experiences.Like, how did you guys even notice all this? Just by doing a simple math, I come to an only conclusion; we have insanely few 'real' members who actually contribute on the forums. It's pretty fucking sad actually.
SDJaziKing
07-23-22, 17:53
The bottom line: Nobody, & I repeat, NOBODY, here in San Diego, (AMP or AAMP), could compete with the level of service that VIP / VIP 2 was providing to us hobbyist, and the lost revenue was hitting them in their pocket books big time, so they resorted to both sabotage and vandalism and attacked them in every way possible until they finally succeeded in driving them out of town. For the right price, yeah. You can find way better services in San Diego. That's the beauty of hobby; The never ending unicorn hunt. Never say never in this field man. That's the dumbest shit you can actually say to veteran hobbyists LOL.
But seriously though bro, don't you dare worry about their money. It's probably the least thing you need to actually worry about.
But despised this 1 A-hole (Dude / Ryan / Jizalot and Jaguar-all 1 in the same) Regardless of how direct and straightforward Ryan writes, I highly doubt Ryan had any malicious intent toward VIP? What the fuck is this accusation? He seems to be the most stable person I've seen on this forum so far, who isn't fully swung by emotions when writing reports / posts.
And I was greatly rewarded of my loyalty, with perks! I'm sure not too many other guys got to enjoy; the unicorn type services. As well as the on about half a dozen different occasions, when VIP2 was under supposedly under renovation (NEWS ALERT: THEY WERE'NT).
I was given Carte Blanche VIP2 privileges and would have the entire place to myself along with 2 girls who would make the drive over from VIP in SV around 11 p,m. And 2 other times when Cici over there alone and met me. Complete with candles, champagne and music.
So fuck yeah, if I'm feeling "pretty mother fucking far from ok" at the moment- It's because I am! We will never, ever, get this level of VIP Disneyland service back.I mean, Can you not hear what you are saying? You're literally obsessed and completely biased. Step back and chill bro. You are literally going through some heavy withdrawal shit man.
We were the clients, they were the awesome providers. We all had good times with them but things have changed. Some of you might still be banging the infamous girls personally on the side, but seriously, who cares??
Show is over, why do we need to still talk about this dead business on the forum and get fucking mad about it? If they resurface, nice! Do let us know! If they don't, that's fine too. But let's not talk like we have some weird ass obligations to end this aggression. Let them handle their business, don't be their pawns.
RChangDatyKing
07-23-22, 21:09
Like, how did you guys even notice all this? Just by doing a simple math, I come to an only conclusion; we have insanely few 'real' members who actually contribute on the forums. It's pretty fucking sad actually.Actually, there are lots of real and contributing members but you just need to know who they are and find those with your similar tastes and avoid the clone accounts.
I don't think the judgement is out on you yet. Your very first reviews was for a poor AAMP group and you mentioned you are a longtime lurker who recreated an account to post about Cris. Some may say you created the "clone" account to boost her business with your reviews for her group.
Mr MuffMan
07-23-22, 21:36
Lots of other mongers (including myself) preferred NLBC location than Spring Valley, simply because it was more secured and safe location. If you really think about how reckless the whole operation was, it's actually mind blowing. Girls walking around the hallway completely naked sometimes, wearing no panties under super short dress, whole parlor sounds like a fuckfest if fully occupied and shit. While it might make you feel like you're in Disneyland of Porn to experience the sensory overload, it's extremely delusional. It was rather a SUPER risky operation. Don't get me wrong, I too was addicted to the services they offered and the beauty they provided but I'm just glad I didn't get my ass busted by LEs because the heat was getting really hot at that place. Who can I blame, I am a risk-chaser though.
And on a completely side note, they honestly got to San Diego in December and began operating like they were trying to take over the whole city LOL. Yes, the services they provided far exceeds the quality of other spas, there's no doubt about that. But if you are going to jump into an unregulated, rather illegal market, you should do your research first. I honestly think the services they provided should've cost more than $$, for the sake of preventing any competitor's reckless behavior. Competitors do pop up here and there, ALL THE TIME. What they DON'T usually do is disrupting the market price.
I mean come on, tons of mongers reported paying only $$ for a threesome as soon as they began to be noticed by us mongers. Not just a threesome but a mind-blowing threesome with insatiably beautiful Chinese girls. Can you imagine how many of other mongers got instantly interested / attracted by those posts? Try selling high grade pure cocaine for 20 bux a gram for months. I'm sure you will be found dead on the street in no time, not by cops but by other competitors. Some of you mongers call them innocent, but I got to call them naive instead. Just purely from a business perspective. Street is tough boys. If you know, you know.So you are saying you have no problem with posts that openly discouraged mongers from going to VIP in Spring Valley because they were "reckless" and "disrupted the marketplace"? Are you theDude? Or are you Mr RubMaps? Just askin.
Mr MuffMan.
PoonTangJohnny
07-23-22, 22:43
Had I not taken the advice of a highly respected fellow hobbyist here, I'd be willing to bet that VIP / VIP2 would still be in operation today. And probably would've had a date with one of my VIP girls last night.
FWIW: The ball is in their court now. If this person / rival business wants to continue playing their cowardly games here (targeting the competition (like they did VIP who clearly had better talent / services than them), then I would be willing to bet, some of these places will soon cease operating in the residential communities they currently reside in offering their prostitution services, and be forced to find a different hosting venue. Just the collateral damage / Karma. For what's been done. LOL.
For the right price, yeah. You can find way better services in San Diego. That's the beauty of hobby; The never ending unicorn hunt. Never say never in this field man. That's the dumbest shit you can actually say to veteran hobbyists LOL."Veteran hobbyist" <LOL WAFJ.
I'd be willing to bet that I've been in this hobby longer than most of the "veteran hobbyists" here.
I've banged some of the higher end dime pieces escorts. And don't get me started regarding some of the stripper's I dated back in my strip club days at Cheetah's, Dirty Dan's, Pure Platinum, Club Expose. That didn't cost me a cent. Or all of the hot chicks I've dated in my life time. That you paying monger's here never would've had a shot at in your lifetimes. My whole life, has been 1 big pussy chasing fantasy, from my High School, military, college. On. So if I decide now, that AMP's are my cup of tea, I could give 2 fucks what anyone else here thinks, or how they feel. You, most of all, aren't going to change my attitude and what I like.
So with all due respect, you can kindly take your condescending "veteran hobbyist" attitude and preach your BS to all of those "veteran hobbyists" you referred to. The fact that you enable and feed into this cowardly asshole shill here, is part of the problem / hypocrisy that permeates the AMP / VIP thread's.
The fact that "veteran hobbyists" like yourself here, just turn a blind eye, to what these girls at VIP were put through, speaks volumes to your moral character, or lack thereof. And I have Zero respect for you.
So keep preaching & I'll just heed the wonderful advice posted by Admin 2 a couple of pages back and add you to my "ignore list," basically making you, irrelevant, just like that Ryan / Dude / Jiz and all of his other online personalities he's been using here. But just remember 1 thing "veteran hobbyists": Try resorting to these same type of cowardly tactics against another AMP, and just see how fast, hypothetical s, become a reality! LOL.
Cheers.
PoonTangJohnny
07-23-22, 23:04
To all of you member's quoted below: I just wanted to express my sincerest thanks / gratitude, for all of you speaking up here. We hobbyist's, lost a very wonderful group of girls (VIP) and the dynamic services and a level of excitement, that just doesn't come along very often. We who were lucky enough to enjoy and experience this ride for ourselves. WE KNOW, what a hot fantasy ride this was, and more importantly, what we lost, needlessly!
This should, never be allowed to happen again. I'm pissed, and I won't be taking a step back! It's just not how I was raised (core values) and who I am. I'm old school- I much more prefer discussing things / issues, man to man. But unfortunately, we live in the day of the internet, and cowards. Where people like this, shill / competition, can do pretty much whatever they want, with anonymity. Until they blow their cover that is. Which is exactly what this person did, when he went to VIP2 casing their joint out. It's all on video, and he wasn't wearing a mask this time, like the 2 late nights of terror when he smashed in the front window / door at VIP SV. As the girls were sleeping literally within a few feet away.
I want thank you guys, for showing compassion, in regards to what the sweet girls (innocent victims) were put through, and most of all, didn't deserve. This was 100% done by a competition! This was vindictive and pure evil.
I know you guys probably think these are just overzealous supporters, but you should guy be aware that this forum is frequented very often by bookers and pimps. As I have stated to others privately, I will say it here now. I'm pretty certain that was a booker or someone affiliated with management. They have a strong incentive to get you to check out their business, and at some point it started becoming really unethical.
They didn't put up reports for their more popular members for obvious reasons. The reports would always come for usually newer girls or girls whose business was likely slowly down. And this would be okay to do in my opinion. If they were accurate reports. But they weren't. All the girls did not look like their pictures, and they would always say, "we don't post real pictures to protect their identities". Yeah okay that's great, but they LITERALLY look nothing like the picture that was posted.
And the excessive amount of name changes for some girls. You guys are aware of why they do this right? If a girl has a bad rep or is simply not getting enough business, they keep rebranding the girl. And then they try to package the shit back to us as if we don't know any better. That's not good. If the girls don't look as good or don't provide good service, they should be punished with fewer customers until they do better.
Does Petra need a name change? No. Does Ash need a name change? No. Even Tatum, does she need a name change? No, because they either provide good service, look good, or both.
And then there were rumors that might have been true that this person was sabotaging operations at NLBC and VIP to promote Cris's girls. And that group literally sucks but they keep getting glowing reports here, even though the reports on TER are mediocre for the price.
This is all bad for mongers. It's very bad business.
I was told to stop "arguing" with those clones or I would be moderated. And that was the first month one of the clones appeared on the board. First question that hit me when I saw the notice of the removal, "how do you know which clone he is"? What I do know about websites is this. Every time you visit a site, your IP address, Device Name, User name, etc are captured in a log. What the public can't see in a post is the IP Address of the poster. Doesn't take much to gather data on the IP Address and associate it with a User then check the email address of that user. That's all part of the backend of this system. Easy to track people.
Now that I wake up every morning to bacon and can't but wonder of these admins are going to start researching and see if these new clones go back to a dude. Geolocation will certainly help them. No, this is not over by a long shot.
Agreed. That Dude and his many clones effectively poisoned honest discussion here with self-serving disinformation. I'm now "moderated" because I dared to question the integrity of one such clone. So be it. Sure, we can all "just get along" so long as we all play fair. I think it was allowed tonfester for far too long. And its not over yet by a long shot.
That's great and all, but this former member was divisive as hell. Anytime anyone made an honest negative remark about the girls he represented, he would lash out at them. And not only that, they used to post negative reviews here and on TER until they got called out for it. And then he would create mediocre but slightly positive reviews for girls from non-SDAG or Cris's Crap group to make it seem like he was impartial. He would always make glowing review for girls that were CLEARLY not good and likely not getting enough bookings. If you can't understand that person's intentions now, then you're very naive.
This behavior is unacceptable. And the number of alternate accounts posting reviews and shilling the original ad is overwhelming. I am confident there are still several accounts that are tied to them simply based on the content. No one else is posting any kind of crap in favor of any the masseuses at Cris's group, because they are overpriced and not good to look at.
I think the purpose of this forum is to provide accurate information and to be helpful to fellow mongers. It is not helpful when someone is being paid (paid in free service, or kickback or whatever) to post false reports in an attempt to increase business to a specific girl or group. Or, to do the opposite, and talk shit about a girl / organization in an attempt to hurt their business.
Hello gentlemen. I'd like to start by saying that I very much appreciate this forum and the community that has grown around it. Here, we've been afforded an opportunity to seek out those things we are interested in and even to experience those others that perhaps we were never aware existed or could be of interest to us. I am grateful for the knowledge, experience, and anecdotes that are shared here and which have been very helpful in making my efforts more fruitful. Many of you already know that I am more than happy to share my own experiences when my time permits. Having said all that, I may now be risking taking a stance that may prove unpopular with some. That is, I don't fucking care who gets what for free, who pays less for what, or whether my mileage varies. It's part of the game we play and I am not troubled that others are more astute at receiving the aforementioned gifts from the phenomenal women we all seek. If anything, God bless them for getting freebies and gimmies. Not a single one of us would decline such an offer in exchange for a review that is honest but favorable. All I propose is that we take this forum for what it is, an opportunity to share and build community. If some members want to spend hours debating, arguing, and spewing hateful rhetoric then I will simply ignore it and mine the information that is useful for me from their comments. Believe me, I have never had a bad experience with any of the ladies or places that have been shared here favorably before. So who gives a shit what the transactional component of the arrangement was between a member and a provider? Please, just focus on the purpose of this forum and put suppositions and jealousy aside. Let's just get along and hope that we continue to be as fortunate through our shared information as we all have been already. Thanks for reading.
PoonTangJohnny
07-23-22, 23:15
Lastly, I would just like to convey my "thanks," to the Admin here, for giving us this platform (perfect thread title BTW) and the latitude, to discuss this highly volatile subject at hand, and what's transpired these past few months. It's greatly appreciated!
We hobbyists here (whether you're into Escorts, Independents, AMP's / AAMP, have lost a wonderful venue / girls, because of it. And this really needs to be nipped in the bud, stat!
CityboysUp
07-24-22, 03:15
Show is over, why do we need to still talk about this dead business on the forum and get fucking mad about it? If they resurface, nice! Do let us know! If they don't, that's fine too. But let's not talk like we have some weird ass obligations to end this aggression. Let them handle their business, don't be their pawns.For starters, without awareness to the issue, it will continue to happen. You cannot simply push things aside and expect normalcy again. The guy who started this mess was extremely aggressive. And I love SDAG, but it's gone downhill in many ways. It started with the name changes, it continued with the fake reviews, and now I'm starting to believe these awesome AMPs were indeed being driven out by them.
I don't believe in shilling, I believe in honest reviews. It helps each other, but also keeps agencies honest. They began to game us and started to literally market shit to us. I was tired of that, but driving away the great talent at NLBC / VIP is very disappointing. I was not one to favor AMPs but that group was exceptional. The AMP business died out for quite a bit over a decade ago, and was only beginning to resurge over the previous few years. Now we've taken a step back.
If the guy had stuck to the SDAG girls, that would've been fine, but he kept peddling Cris's agency with their mediocre service and those poor ethics spilled over to SDAG.
I was told to stop "arguing" with those clones or I would be moderated. And that was the first month one of the clones appeared on the board. First question that hit me when I saw the notice of the removal, "how do you know which clone he is"? What I do know about websites is this. Every time you visit a site, your IP address, Device Name, User name, etc are captured in a log. What the public can't see in a post is the IP Address of the poster. Doesn't take much to gather data on the IP Address and associate it with a User then check the email address of that user. That's all part of the backend of this system. Easy to track people.
Now that I wake up every morning to bacon and can't but wonder of these admins are going to start researching and see if these new clones go back to a dude. Geolocation will certainly help them. No, this is not over by a long shot.From the fucking 80's. IP information is fucking useless which is why we don't log it. I'm not going to give a class to help trolls improve their game on how to spoof your IP but even without doing anything since the explosion of smart phones IP info is less than useless for what you're describing. Because the internet still pretty much functions on IP 4 but has so many devices that IP 6 addressing is needed what ISP's do is something called NAT (Network Address Translation) https://avinetworks.com/glossary/network-address-translation/#:~:text=Network%20Address%20Translation%20(NAT)%20is,private%20network%20a%20public%20address I'll just thumbnail it for you since you're a fucking idiot.
ALL of these trolls, AND YOU come from the same IP as we see it. Your phone has an IP 6 address (looks like this fe80 d4 a8:6435: d2 d8: d9 f3 b11) but then when it hits your ISP it's converted to IP 4 (looks like XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX) so literally 10's of thousands of people have the same IP address publicly.
The way to get rid of trolls is really fucking simple, trolls CRAVE attention, every single fucking time you guys address them you encourage them to post more.
I identify them, label them, and suggest you ignore them. You do not, you are part of the problem.
Next time know what the fuck you're talking about.
A2.
SDJaziKing
07-24-22, 10:31
So you are saying you have no problem with posts that openly discouraged mongers from going to VIP in Spring Valley because they were "reckless" and "disrupted the marketplace"? Are you theDude? Or are you Mr RubMaps? Just askin.
Mr MuffMan.What do you think? Do you think just because I brought up facts I am automatically the competitor? So do you think girls walking around the hallway naked is just "sexy?" They were careless as fuck. Have you actually seen the trash can inside NLBC rooms? That shit was filled with cum wipes and sometimes with condoms too man. Leaving all the evidences like a fucking maniac, where shit should've been cleaned up after each session; they were either too busy or lazy. I am simply stating what happened and what I've seen. Also about market disruption; Tons of people miss VIP / NLBC simply because of whole 2-ben worth of threesome fuckery. Not everyone here on the forum is well-established gentlemen who don't need to worry about money in their life. Shit was an insane budget deal for a regular monger who wanted to experience the threesome package. It's not like four hands massage was just magically invented by VIP girls. You just had to pay double for the same amount of "time" you spend there. But we all know VIP simply crushed the paywall and attracted insane amount of attention from mongers. If this was not a market disruption, I don't know what was. Shit almost changed the entire dynamic of AMP scene.
You too are also heavily biased sir. I am neither "thedude" or "rubmap. " Just an ordinary monger who has no interest in getting my ass busted by LEs. Go ask admin if you still think I am just another burner account. I seriously don't give a jack fuck about the whole VIP vs. Agency bullshit. Who gives a fuck? What the fuck are we, AMP vigilantes? I am just sick and tired of seeing people biased af on their reports. There's always pros and cons. Not everything is perfect in life. Yet yall folks only want to talk about the "good things. ".
SDJaziKing
07-24-22, 10:54
Had I not taken the advice of a highly respected fellow hobbyist here, I'd be willing to bet that VIP / VIP2 would still be in operation today. And probably would've had a date with one of my VIP girls last night.
FWIW: The ball is in their court now. If this person / rival business wants to continue playing their cowardly games here (targeting the competition (like they did VIP who clearly had better talent / services than them), then I would be willing to bet, some of these places will soon cease operating in the residential communities they currently reside in offering their prostitution services, and be forced to find a different hosting venue. Just the collateral damage / Karma. For what's been done. LOL.
"Veteran hobbyist" <LOL WAFJ.
I'd be willing to bet that I've been in this hobby longer than most of the "veteran hobbyists" here.
I've banged some of the higher end dime pieces escorts. And don't get me started regarding some of the stripper's I dated back in my strip club days at Cheetah's, Dirty Dan's, Pure Platinum, Club Expose. That didn't cost me a cent. Or all of the hot chicks I've dated in my life time. That you paying monger's here never would've had a shot at in your lifetimes. My whole life, has been 1 big pussy chasing fantasy, from my High School, military, college. On. So if I decide now, that AMP's are my cup of tea, I could give 2 fucks what anyone else here thinks, or how they feel. You, most of all, aren't going to change my attitude and what I like.
So with all due respect, you can kindly take your condescending "veteran hobbyist" attitude and preach your BS to all of those "veteran hobbyists" you referred to. The fact that you enable and feed into this cowardly asshole shill here, is part of the problem / hypocrisy that permeates the AMP / VIP thread's.
The fact that "veteran hobbyists" like yourself here, just turn a blind eye, to what these girls at VIP were put through, speaks volumes to your moral character, or lack thereof. And I have Zero respect for you.
So keep preaching & I'll just heed the wonderful advice posted by Admin 2 a couple of pages back and add you to my "ignore list," basically making you, irrelevant, just like that Ryan / Dude / Jiz and all of his other online personalities he's been using here. But just remember 1 thing "veteran hobbyists": Try resorting to these same type of cowardly tactics against another AMP, and just see how fast, hypothetical s, become a reality! LOL.
Cheers.Jesus,
I've never seen a person who emits more SIMP energy than this guy does LOL. Shit is actually hilarious.
I tell you what Mr. Johnny the Simp, these girls haven't gone through some human trafficking shit. It's all about business and they obviously sucked at it, regardless of their extraordinary services. Sabotage? Glass breaking and shit? What the fuck is this, a legal business with a legal operation? This shit ain't a well respected mom & pop shop we all need to protect as a community.
SDJaziKing
07-24-22, 11:13
Actually, there are lots of real and contributing members but you just need to know who they are and find those with your similar tastes and avoid the clone accounts.
I don't think the judgement is out on you yet. Your very first reviews was for a poor AAMP group and you mentioned you are a longtime lurker who recreated an account to post about Cris. Some may say you created the "clone" account to boost her business with your reviews for her group.If you actually read my review on Cris, I wasn't even siding on their business. I actually talked shit about my session being shorted and the girl didn't even look like the pictures. Now ask yourself, does that help promoting their business at all?
Mr MuffMan
07-24-22, 19:18
What do you think? Do you think just because I brought up facts I am automatically the competitor? So do you think girls walking around the hallway naked is just "sexy?" They were careless as fuck. Have you actually seen the trash can inside NLBC rooms? That shit was filled with cum wipes and sometimes with condoms too man. Leaving all the evidences like a fucking maniac, where shit should've been cleaned up after each session; they were either too busy or lazy. I am simply stating what happened and what I've seen. Also about market disruption; Tons of people miss VIP / NLBC simply because of whole 2-ben worth of threesome fuckery. Not everyone here on the forum is well-established gentlemen who don't need to worry about money in their life. Shit was an insane budget deal for a regular monger who wanted to experience the threesome package. It's not like four hands massage was just magically invented by VIP girls. You just had to pay double for the same amount of "time" you spend there. But we all know VIP simply crushed the paywall and attracted insane amount of attention from mongers. If this was not a market disruption, I don't know what was. Shit almost changed the entire dynamic of AMP scene.
You too are also heavily biased sir. I am neither "thedude" or "rubmap. " Just an ordinary monger who has no interest in getting my ass busted by LEs. Go ask admin if you still think I am just another burner account. I seriously don't give a jack fuck about the whole VIP vs. Agency bullshit. Who gives a fuck? What the fuck are we, AMP vigilantes? I am just sick and tired of seeing people biased af on their reports. There's always pros and cons. Not everything is perfect in life. Yet yall folks only want to talk about the "good things. ".You're definitely Mr RubMaps. You wouldn't be so passionately trying to defend these actions if you weren't. You're using one of your clone accounts, rather than your main account, in an effort to try to seem credible. Please, by all means, keep responding and debating us. It just provides us with more evidence. You're guilty and we know it.
Mr MuffMan.
SDJaziKing
07-25-22, 00:13
You're definitely Mr RubMaps. You wouldn't be so passionately trying to defend these actions if you weren't. You're using one of your clone accounts, rather than your main account, in an effort to try to seem credible. Please, by all means, keep responding and debating us. It just provides us with more evidence. You're guilty and we know it.
Mr MuffMan.I honestly hope your delusional conspiracy theory is proved wrong one day LOL. Try as much as you like, keep the simp energy high sir. Admin should know who is just making shit up at this point.
VIP was never a perfect establishment, yet why'all SIMP fucks just can't take any negative reviews about them. I don't know who keeps sucking your dick to pursue this weird crusade of yours, but I do wish you a good luck finding this Mr. Rubmaps guy because I am not him and I have no affiliation with any of the establishments mentioned here.
Hell, I've never even tried to contact SDAG due to their screening bullshit LOL. It's hilarious to see some people genuinely believe I am one of the "clones. ".
Oh by the way, what am I guilty of? Prostitution? LOL.
RChangDatyKing
07-25-22, 01:06
If you actually read my review on Cris, I wasn't even siding on their business. I actually talked shit about my session being shorted and the girl didn't even look like the pictures. Now ask yourself, does that help promoting their business at all?It's all good!
I believed with my MBA degree I might know a little bit about business practices. There are lots of ways to promote a business, even if a review was totally all negative but yours wasn't all negative. LOL.
By posting about the business, you were promoting it. By giving the girl you saw an overall 8 out 10 for service, you were promoting the business, even if she was only a 4 in looks. By stating and restating the $140 value for BBBJ and CFS session you received you (a bargain) were promoting the business. Just sayin.
But to answer your original question, YES there are many real contributing members on the forum.
When someone's first post is for a place already known by many trusted mongers to deliver poor service, bait and switch, etc. And by you stating that you are a long time lurker who recreated the account for the purpose of writing the review for that establishment, it makes people wonder your true intentions especially with the history with the "Dude" and this establishment. It's all about credibility! Only time will tell. Thanks for showing interests, reading and responding to my original post that was a reply and intended to those members. LOL.
SDJaziKing
07-25-22, 11:54
It's all good!
I believed with my MBA degree I might know a little bit about business practices. There are lots of ways to promote a business, even if a review was totally all negative but yours wasn't all negative. LOL.
By posting about the business, you were promoting it. By giving the girl you saw an overall 8 out 10 for service, you were promoting the business, even if she was only a 4 in looks. By stating and restating the $140 value for BBBJ and CFS session you received you (a bargain) were promoting the business. Just sayin.
But to answer your original question, YES there are many real contributing members on the forum.
When someone's first post is for a place already known by many trusted mongers to deliver poor service, bait and switch, etc. And by you stating that you are a long time lurker who recreated the account for the purpose of writing the review for that establishment, it makes people wonder your true intentions especially with the history with the "Dude" and this establishment. It's all about credibility! Only time will tell. Thanks for showing interests, reading and responding to my original post that was a reply and intended to those members. LOL.If writing an honest but negative review is considered promotion, well then so be it. But I see where you are coming from.
You are right though, only time will tell. Can't wait to see you guys actually find this mysterious guy and wonder "then who the fuck is this SDJaziKing guy?" I'm just going to say I told you so.
CityboysUp
07-25-22, 11:59
Case in point, I posted an honest but critical review of a girl from SDAG by the name of EJ. Thought she was cute but the connection and service were lacking.
One of the alts I suspected responded by claiming that she was awesome (which is perfectly fine) but then had the gall to claim that my post history was full of negative comments about girls from the agency.
Like really? If the stock of providers is providing less and less quality than they use to, then it's every right of ours to call it out. I am tired of SDAG peddling subpar shit to us for a much greater up charge.
RolfTorren
07-25-22, 12:56
SDAG always had "attitude" but most of us sucked it up because they were the best Kgirl show in town. I suspect they have new management now. Someone who is feeling the impact of lower quality therapists and a more discerning clientele. They've bumped up the rates but the quality has remained fairly ordinary. They imported the whole "open-minded" phenomenon from further north, and made sure to remind us of it here through reviews that very clearly inserted (pardon the pun) the new business model. They've also developed a new attitude on HX. I like Petra and a few others and repeat when I can. But I'm in no rush to support a failing enterprise. Pity really. I've had some great times there over the years.
Case in point, I posted an honest but critical review of a girl from SDAG by the name of EJ. Thought she was cute but the connection and service were lacking.
One of the alts I suspected responded by claiming that she was awesome (which is perfectly fine) but then had the gall to claim that my post history was full of negative comments about girls from the agency.
Like really? If the stock of providers is providing less and less quality than they use to, then it's every right of ours to call it out. I am tired of SDAG peddling subpar shit to us for a much greater up charge.
Case in point, I posted an honest but critical review of a girl from SDAG by the name of EJ. Thought she was cute but the connection and service were lacking.
One of the alts I suspected responded by claiming that she was awesome (which is perfectly fine) but then had the gall to claim that my post history was full of negative comments about girls from the agency.
Like really? If the stock of providers is providing less and less quality than they use to, then it's every right of ours to call it out. I am tired of SDAG peddling subpar shit to us for a much greater up charge.Thanks for providing reviews.
I see people avoiding generally negative reviews.
I do out my faith on senior members here.
RChangDatyKing
07-25-22, 15:42
Case in point, I posted an honest but critical review of a girl from SDAG by the name of EJ. Thought she was cute but the connection and service were lacking.
One of the alts I suspected responded by claiming that she was awesome (which is perfectly fine) but then had the gall to claim that my post history was full of negative comments about girls from the agency.
Like really? If the stock of providers is providing less and less quality than they use to, then it's every right of ours to call it out. I am tired of SDAG peddling subpar shit to us for a much greater up charge.Hey JuvyNiled! Hope all is well! Yeah, I saw his reply to your post / review. He did that to another monger. The guys has no real reviews other than posts with 2-3 sentences in them and they are not helpful at all. He has 11 posts total and one of them was deleted by Admin because the content was considered as pointless drama, etc. His has one or 2 other posts where he's taking jabs at other members about their reviews. It's their experience, why care?
It's all about credibility and the guy with his 2-3 sentence posts / reviews has no credibility. People are going to trust your reviews / intel over his every time.
Mr MuffMan
07-25-22, 15:52
I honestly hope your delusional conspiracy theory is proved wrong one day LOL. Try as much as you like, keep the simp energy high sir. Admin should know who is just making shit up at this point.
VIP was never a perfect establishment, yet why'all SIMP fucks just can't take any negative reviews about them. I don't know who keeps sucking your dick to pursue this weird crusade of yours, but I do wish you a good luck finding this Mr. Rubmaps guy because I am not him and I have no affiliation with any of the establishments mentioned here.
Hell, I've never even tried to contact SDAG due to their screening bullshit LOL. It's hilarious to see some people genuinely believe I am one of the "clones. ".
Oh by the way, what am I guilty of? Prostitution? LOL.What the fuck are you talking about. We're not saying it was the "perfect establishment" or that we can't take "any negative reviews" towards them. That ship and discussion has long since sailed. We're talking about crimes that were committed against them, get it? We know who Mr RubMaps is. We have him on video, we know what he looks like, and we have him positively identified. Are you him? That I cannot prove, but I have a hard time understanding why anybody who's not him would be debating us this passionately about this. If you are indeed not him, and just some idiot behind a keyboard, my suggestion to you is to shut up and stay out of this. This is very serious and we're not messing around. If you are him, then by all means, keep replying, you're doing us a favor.
Mr MuffMan.
Sir Bishop
07-25-22, 17:42
Ok, we've got members here that shill and / or promote. Nothing new and the posts are not against site policy. It just makes it harder for us to weed through the shit. What would you do if someone started calling out, in public on YouTube, that your site is promoting sex trafficking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqvyfD0F6x4
This video is going to cause problems. Issues way above a few shills. Someone took down SDASP and My Red in a public fashion because they didn't get their way and felt entitled to fuck it up for everyone else.
CityboysUp
07-25-22, 18:30
SDAG always had "attitude" but most of us sucked it up because they were the best Kgirl show in town. I suspect they have new management now. Someone who is feeling the impact of lower quality therapists and a more discerning clientele. They've bumped up the rates but the quality has remained fairly ordinary. They imported the whole "open-minded" phenomenon from further north, and made sure to remind us of it here through reviews that very clearly inserted (pardon the pun) the new business model. They've also developed a new attitude on HX. I like Petra and a few others and repeat when I can. But I'm in no rush to support a failing enterprise. Pity really. I've had some great times there over the years.Wholeheartedly agreed. Even Candygirl up in LA is beginning to realize that some girls are simply not marketable because they look like shit or their service sucks, so they put out "Specials" ads for them at lower rates. Now this isn't completely ideal but it's a huge step in the right direction. When a girl is not good, she deserves to get less business and should opt for lower rates. It's just how a free market of pussy should work.
I have been paying upsell prices for BBFS girls down in SD for some time now but that is stopping unless I'm certain the girl is great (ie. If Diva / Amora were to ever come back).
SDJaziKing
07-25-22, 22:38
What the fuck are you talking about. We're not saying it was the "perfect establishment" or that we can't take "any negative reviews" towards them. That ship and discussion has long since sailed. We're talking about crimes that were committed against them, get it? We know who Mr RubMaps is. We have him on video, we know what he looks like, and we have him positively identified. Are you him? That I cannot prove, but I have a hard time understanding why anybody who's not him would be debating us this passionately about this. If you are indeed not him, and just some idiot behind a keyboard, my suggestion to you is to shut up and stay out of this. This is very serious and we're not messing around. If you are him, then by all means, keep replying, you're doing us a favor.
Mr MuffMan.Yes sir AMP police officer, please keep the neighborhoods safe sir LOL.
What we do behind each massage room door is crime, yet you folks are obsessed with finding other criminal. Ironically pathetic.
SDJaziKing
07-25-22, 23:51
What the fuck are you talking about. We're not saying it was the "perfect establishment" or that we can't take "any negative reviews" towards them. That ship and discussion has long since sailed. We're talking about crimes that were committed against them, get it? We know who Mr RubMaps is. We have him on video, we know what he looks like, and we have him positively identified. Are you him? That I cannot prove, but I have a hard time understanding why anybody who's not him would be debating us this passionately about this. If you are indeed not him, and just some idiot behind a keyboard, my suggestion to you is to shut up and stay out of this. This is very serious and we're not messing around. If you are him, then by all means, keep replying, you're doing us a favor.
Mr MuffMan.As much as you have hard time understanding why anybody who is not affiliated with Mr. RubMaps (or whatever this mysterious guy's name is) is debating over this stupidity, I have hard time understanding why you some mongers are on a serious mission to find this guy. VIP was not your business (Unless it was?) And from what I've seen and heard so far, only possible thing he could be charged for is vandalism at this moment. Whatever the allegation he might have with agency, that is completely not up to YOU to decide. That's up to the district attorney.
You know what bothers me the most? You keep saying "we have him on the camera" but that also tells me you have access to whole footage of other cameras inside the parlor as well, which probably has tons of US MONGERS' FACE on it too. I honestly don't care about this weird guy who broke the fucking windows for whatever reason, but where's OUR discretion? How about that? You want to know why I keep debating on this matter? Because I feel like yall going to fuck this shit up big time and cause some troubles for other mongers who were just there to fuck the beautiful ladies. Like, what's your end goal? You are going to bring this guy to justice and get him arrested for vandalism? That's 50 k fine or 3 years top man.
By the way, all this bullshit debate began with your accusation of me being a clone account. You just can't take any negative comments on VIP. I've stated multiple times why I thought their operation was not safe and you NEVER even bothered to comment on any of the things I've mentioned but to keep accusing me. You are mindlessly defending them, for what?
Canuck6234
07-26-22, 00:06
Ok, we've got members here that shill and / or promote. Nothing new and the posts are not against site policy. It just makes it harder for us to weed through the shit. What would you do if someone started calling out, in public on YouTube, that your site is promoting sex trafficking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqvyfD0F6x4
This video is going to cause problems. Issues way above a few shills. Someone took down SDASP and My Red in a public fashion because they didn't get their way and felt entitled to fuck it up for everyone else.We are still experiencing the aftershocks related to the loss of MyRedBook and SDASP. The loss of these two fine sites created a vacuum that was filled by the likes of PD. In NorCal, to this day, there is still no quality (IMHO) escort site. Even animals don't sh%t where they eat, why do some of our fellow pervs do so?
SDJaziKing
07-26-22, 01:57
We are still experiencing the aftershocks related to the loss of MyRedBook and SDASP. The loss of these two fine sites created a vacuum that was filled by the likes of PD. In NorCal, to this day, there is still no quality (IMHO) escort site. Even animals don't sh%t where they eat, why do some of our fellow pervs do so?Obviously "If I can't have it, yall can't have it" mentality. Pity isn't it?
Trusty Hairlip
07-26-22, 12:58
Ok, we've got members here that shill and / or promote. Nothing new and the posts are not against site policy. It just makes it harder for us to weed through the shit. What would you do if someone started calling out, in public on YouTube, that your site is promoting sex trafficking?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HqvyfD0F6x4
This video is going to cause problems. Issues way above a few shills. Someone took down SDASP and My Red in a public fashion because they didn't get their way and felt entitled to fuck it up for everyone else.There is always drama on that site it seems.
There is always drama on that site it seems.Yah, it was nice when all the wannabe old hags like GinaGalaxy and few just suddenly disappeared.
Now its just one dude against another dude.
But, there is still plenty of chicks to bang and get bare from the newbies.
Other clubs have just as much detail and even went to Discord mode several years ago. I'm is Discord club for Korean girl talk all day and all night with intel from the bay in it as well an itts 100% private.
PoonTangJohnny
07-27-22, 13:18
We are all here for fun time bro, but let's not forget what we are doing behind the curtains LOLThis is the most laughable / hypocritical statement I've read here on the USA; no surprise, coming from you.
The problem is, some of us here (who "are actually here, wanting to enjoy the 'FUN' are no longer able to enjoy the 'FUN' that we prefer (AMP VIP / VIP2). Because of this shill / competitor AAMP here with an agenda of sabotage. Everyone here, knows exactly who you are. It's so funny / predictable how you've been baited of your shell these past few days and exposed yourself, for who we knew you were. Only now, it's confirmed!
This Curb Your Enthusiasm YT video, reminds me a lot of you, SDJK, for 2 reasons: One, because you remind me so much of this "doth protest too much," actress. And secondly, because you act like / behave, just like the Big 'V' internet coward you've demonstrated yourself to be. LOL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zret7O8YoU
And just an FYI to all of the AAMP owner's reading this: The reality is, that it will be, a very sad (senseless) 'pity,' if you AAMP owner's, don't start policing your own. Because if any of you, ever again think about targeting another AMP here in San Diego (like you did VIP / VIP2). Be prepared for a very rude awakening. And the domino effect that will soon follow.
I just felt the need to finally address some of the hypocrisy "we're here for the fun" for quite sometime. Not to worry- On ignore you will stay, however, the ignore feature, unfortunately, doesn't hide the all the dribble / shill BS, when you're being quoted by the other reputable / respected member's here, calling you out, for who you are.
Cheers!
He has 11 posts total and one of them was deleted by Admin because the content was considered as pointless drama, etc. His has one or 2 other posts where he's taking jabs at other members about their reviews. It's their experience, why care?
It's all about credibility and the guy with his 2-3 sentence posts / reviews has no credibility. People are going to trust your reviews / intel over his every time.I didn't realize until 2 days ago, that that Dude pariah, and his other Del Mar Surfdog shill account were both banned by the Admin here. Where has that Ryan "Dude" been BTW? He's sure been really quiet lately. LOL Fucking lowlife coward! It's hilarious, how the cat's got his tongue, since these 2 douchbag shills were banned.
What the fuck are you talking about. That ship and discussion has long since sailed. We're talking about crimes that were committed against them, get it? We know who Mr RubMaps is. We have him on video, we know what he looks like, and we have him positively identified. Are you him? That I cannot prove, but I have a hard time understanding why anybody who's not him would be debating us this passionately about this. If you are indeed not him, and just some idiot behind a keyboard, my suggestion to you is to shut up and stay out of this. This is very serious and we're not messing around. If you are him, then by all means, keep replying, you're doing us a favor.
Mr MuffMan.He, 'IS' him! But he's just not smart enough, nor does he possess the the self control, to "shut up and stay out of this. ".
Ok, we've got members here that shill and / or promote. Nothing new and the posts are not against site policy. It just makes it harder for us to weed through the shit. What would you do if someone started calling out, in public on YouTube, that your site is promoting sex trafficking?
This video is going to cause problems. Issues way above a few shills. Someone took down SDASP and My Red in a public fashion because they didn't get their way and felt entitled to fuck it up for everyone else.I may be a newer member here on the USA, but I've been in this hobby, for a very long time. I too, was very active on MyRedbook, TER, Erotic Monkey, to just name a few. MyRedbook was my favorite, and FWIW, I had some of my best experiences with some of the amazing hotties while I was on there. That was back when I was living up in Monterey and Santa Cruz. Losing MyRedbook, was a huge blow to this hobby when they were shut down. I've only been partaking in the AMP / AAMP hobby (not counting Anna in Japan who I would drive up to the OC who I see about a half dozen times a few years back). Losing VIP / VIP2 and some of these amazing girls I had established a wonderful relationship / repor with. Along with those crazy fantasy hot threesomes they (Mina) would bless me / us with. Losing this as a "go to" option, is inexcusable and unforgivable! What was done to these girls at VIP / VIP2, should never be allowed to ever happen here in San Diego again. And if we don't nip this in the bud- who will!
Wholeheartedly agreed. Even Candygirl up in LA is beginning to realize that some girls are simply not marketable because they look like shit or their service sucks, so they put out "Specials" ads for them at lower rates. Now this isn't completely ideal but it's a huge step in the right direction. When a girl is not good, she deserves to get less business and should opt for lower rates. It's just how a free market of pussy should work.I want to express my profound thanks once again, for speaking up, in relation to what some of us veteran hobbyist, lost (VIP / VIP2), at the hands of the vindictive cowards (competition / shills) here in San Diego, who clearly couldn't compete and resorted to their despicable, low life criminal terrorist tactics.
I would like to emphasize and reiterate once again: I have been very patient, and shown great restraint, for not retaliating back when all of this senseless drama / these attacks, first began against VIP / VIP2. I heeded the advice of of one of the most reputable and respected member's on this forum. It was his keen perspective (empathy for his fellow hobbyists as well as some of the innocent awesome AAMP providers working here in San Diego), responsible for me, taking a step back. Most of all- these innocent AAMP girls, don't deserve to be collateral damage, for their greedy owners's actions. Hopefully, these AAMP owner's will wise up and can just get on with this hobby. But after what they've done to the VIP girls, the AAMP's here in SD have lost me as a customer for life.
I really do want to thank the Admin here once again, for taking out the trash (some of at least). This has to be a very difficult / time consuming job to do.
I realize my place here (as a hobbyist), and I really am trying my best not to over step any boundaries here. But somebody here needs to be a voice for these girls, from VIP / VIP2, in light of what they've suffered through (so much emotional trauma), needlessly.
Bottom Line: The power / business in this AMP / AAMP hobby has shifted. If Cris, SDAG, FEC (to name a few) want to be able to compete with the current level of service / quality talent, all they have to do is, bring in a better quality product to the table. It's pretty basic simple Business 101.
SDJaziKing
07-28-22, 05:24
This is the most laughable / hypocritical statement I've read here on the USA; no surprise, coming from you.
The problem is, some of us here (who "are actually here, wanting to enjoy the 'FUN' are no longer able to enjoy the 'FUN' that we prefer (AMP VIP / VIP2). Because of this shill / competitor AAMP here with an agenda of sabotage. Everyone here, knows exactly who you are. It's so funny / predictable how you've been baited of your shell these past few days and exposed yourself, for who we knew you were. Only now, it's confirmed!
This Curb Your Enthusiasm YT video, reminds me a lot of you, SDJK, for 2 reasons: One, because you remind me so much of this "doth protest too much," actress. And secondly, because you act like / behave, just like the Big 'V' internet coward you've demonstrated yourself to be. LOL.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0zret7O8YoU
And just an FYI to all of the AAMP owner's reading this: The reality is, that it will be, a very sad (senseless) 'pity,' if you AAMP owner's, don't start policing your own. Because if any of you, ever again think about targeting another AMP here in San Diego (like you did VIP / VIP2). Be prepared for a very rude awakening. And the domino effect that will soon follow.
I just felt the need to finally address some of the hypocrisy "we're here for the fun" for quite sometime. Not to worry- On ignore you will stay, however, the ignore feature, unfortunately, doesn't hide the all the dribble / shill BS, when you're being quoted by the other reputable / respected member's here, calling you out, for who you are.
Cheers!
I didn't realize until 2 days ago, that that Dude pariah, and his other Del Mar Surfdog shill account were both banned by the Admin here. Where has that Ryan "Dude" been BTW? He's sure been really quiet lately. LOL Fucking lowlife coward! It's hilarious, how the cat's got his tongue, since these 2 douchbag shills were banned.
He, 'IS' him! But he's just not smart enough, nor does he possess the the self control, to "shut up and stay out of this. ".
I may be a newer member here on the USA, but I've been in this hobby, for a very long time. I too, was very active on MyRedbook, TER, Erotic Monkey, to just name a few. MyRedbook was my favorite, and FWIW, I had some of my best experiences with some of the amazing hotties while I was on there. That was back when I was living up in Monterey and Santa Cruz. Losing MyRedbook, was a huge blow to this hobby when they were shut down. I've only been partaking in the AMP / AAMP hobby (not counting Anna in Japan who I would drive up to the OC who I see about a half dozen times a few years back). Losing VIP / VIP2 and some of these amazing girls I had established a wonderful relationship / repor with. Along with those crazy fantasy hot threesomes they (Mina) would bless me / us with. Losing this as a "go to" option, is inexcusable and unforgivable! What was done to these girls at VIP / VIP2, should never be allowed to ever happen here in San Diego again. And if we don't nip this in the bud- who will!
I want to express my profound thanks once again, for speaking up, in relation to what some of us veteran hobbyist, lost (VIP / VIP2), at the hands of the vindictive cowards (competition / shills) here in San Diego, who clearly couldn't compete and resorted to their despicable, low life criminal terrorist tactics.
I would like to emphasize and reiterate once again: I have been very patient, and shown great restraint, for not retaliating back when all of this senseless drama / these attacks, first began against VIP / VIP2. I heeded the advice of of one of the most reputable and respected member's on this forum. It was his keen perspective (empathy for his fellow hobbyists as well as some of the innocent awesome AAMP providers working here in San Diego), responsible for me, taking a step back. Most of all- these innocent AAMP girls, don't deserve to be collateral damage, for their greedy owners's actions. Hopefully, these AAMP owner's will wise up and can just get on with this hobby. But after what they've done to the VIP girls, the AAMP's here in SD have lost me as a customer for life.
I really do want to thank the Admin here once again, for taking out the trash (some of at least). This has to be a very difficult / time consuming job to do.
I realize my place here (as a hobbyist), and I really am trying my best not to over step any boundaries here. But somebody here needs to be a voice for these girls, from VIP / VIP2, in light of what they've suffered through (so much emotional trauma), needlessly.
Bottom Line: The power / business in this AMP / AAMP hobby has shifted. If Cris, SDAG, FEC (to name a few) want to be able to compete with the current level of service / quality talent, all they have to do is, bring in a better quality product to the table. It's pretty basic simple Business 101.Last post from this motherfucker clearly said he will put me on ignore list LOL. I guess you just couldn't do that huh. It's all good, I'm still here. Ryan is still active, just not on this thread. Time to wake up from your delusional dream Mr. PTJ.
And please stop saying "WE KNOW WHO YOU ARE" I mean like, you are going to embarrass yourself once you realize you've been barking at the wrong tree whole time LOL, trust me. It's just sad I won't be able to witness the disappointment on your face.
At this point, I feel like even Admin is just enjoying the whole shit show happening here hahaha. Good luck finding the other guy, and good luck finding me!
Oh by the way, you have over 100 posts yet you are still a regular member? I guess your reports are shitty as you talk!
: D Just found out this forum. Read through 4 pages. Pretty nasty and awesome!
SDAG. Their gals are definitely going downhill especially in the age category. Wth their price, I would expect sub-35's ladies, but most of them are 40's+.
Sir Bishop
08-03-22, 19:35
: D Just found out this forum. Read through 4 pages. Pretty nasty and awesome!
SDAG. Their gals are definitely going downhill especially in the age category. Wth their price, I would expect sub-35's ladies, but most of them are 40's+.Welcome to the shit show. Order another beer, sit back and watch the show.
Bogey The Last
08-03-22, 23:21
I'll just thumbnail it for you since you're a fucking idiot.
ALL of these trolls, AND YOU come from the same IP as we see it. Your phone has an IP 6 address (looks like this fe80 d4 a8:6435: d2 d8: d9 f3 b11) but then when it hits your ISP it's converted to IP 4 (looks like XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX) so literally 10's of thousands of people have the same IP address publicly.
The way to get rid of trolls is really fucking simple, trolls CRAVE attention, every single fucking time you guys address them you encourage them to post more.
Next time know what the fuck you're talking about Sir Bishop
A2.Thanks A2 . 100 %.
Bogey The Last
08-03-22, 23:30
Who wants to make the over and under on when the old. "VIP vips" show up talking about how they are the special guys that know all of these girls, should be funny because none of them have appeared at all but I know they're coming and claiming that they knew that Mina and Lisa were coming back. Absolutely hilarious.
Place your bets.
. . . Blah, blah, nonsense, more nonsense, blah blah. . .
Where has that Ryan "Dude" been BTW? He's sure been really quiet lately. LOL Fucking lowlife coward! It's hilarious, how the cat's got his tongue, since these 2 douchbag shills were banned.
He, 'IS' him! But he's just not smart enough, nor does he possess the the self control, to "shut up and stay out of this. "
. . .Blah, blah, nonsense, more nonsense, blah
PTJ, for another poop inducing post. I must commend you on your talent for wasting forum space with nonsense consisting of shills, tagging multiple other posts, repetition, parroting, fantasies and dissing other members. Outside of that, you really contribute nothing of value other than giving me some of the best bowel movements of the day. In case you weren't aware, a bowel movement is taking a shit.
Sorry, I have a life outside of this forum and don't feel the need to post daily and on multiple threads as some members whose life is sadly consumed here. I think the reason you keep calling me out is your subconscious desire for me to give you a good butt fucking, but sorry snowflake, only in your dreams.
There are members that I don't care for and vice verse, but I can still recognize their intellect, experience and wisdom with this hobby and their nobility in supporting their favorite spas and working girls. Then there are those members that just take up space with posts that reflect the shallowness of their mindset and lacking on several levels.
I think it's a shame that some encourage your nonsense and are so thin skinned as to forget that most of us have more in common than the petty differences that trigger them. We love working women and the spas they work at. We love supporting our favorites. We love sharing our experiences. We love helping our monger brothers. I've said it before and I'll say it again. . . I wish some of you "Senior" members would be sharing more info that protects these working girls as opposed to all the energy and space you expel on attacking other members over petty nonsense.
I was relieved not to be mentioned on posts by members I lovingly refer to as the "Fudge Pact Fraternity. " Their need to constantly praise each other is a bit nauseating, but I should point out that some of the members they mentioned I have great respect for. These are the members that did NOT respond to being mentioned and my guess are a bit embarrassed to be involuntarily included into the Fudge Pact Fraternity.
But I digress. I tease you PTJ only because you're so easy, but recognize that you do promote most of the same girls I've enjoyed at one time or another. Just because I don't feel the need to repeat what multiple other members praising a spa or girl have already said doesn't mean I haven't had similar pleasures at said spa and girl. I guess every forum has their "special needs" (That's PC for retard) member so that's why we all tolerate you.
Thanks again for the awesome shit. Ahhh. My bidet feels so refreshing.
Sir Bishop
08-04-22, 15:47
Thread Starter.Is this thread still following the posting guidelines or are you setting new guidelines?
Bogey The Last
08-04-22, 19:08
I was relieved not to be mentioned on posts by members I lovingly refer to as the "Fudge Pact Fraternity. " Their need to constantly praise each other is a bit nauseating, but I should point out that some of the members they mentioned I have great respect for. These are the members that did NOT respond to being mentioned and my guess are a bit embarrassed to be involuntarily included into the Fudge Pact Fraternity.Agree 100%, it's been very refreshing these past 5 days with little Johnny up in the brokeback mountains on vacation, and the other FPF guys that are constantly high-fiving and telling each other that. "you're the man brother, thank you so much brother". But never contributing anything at all.
Also refreshing that Mina is back in town and hotter than ever. Thanks to all of the guys out there that actually write reviews rather than blowing each other.
Agree 100%, it's been very refreshing these past 5 days with little Johnny up in the brokeback mountains on vacation, and the other FPF guys that are constantly high-fiving and telling each other that. "you're the man brother, thank you so much brother". But never contributing anything at all.
Also refreshing that Mina is back in town and hotter than ever. Thanks to all of the guys out there that actually write reviews rather than blowing each other.Really?! PTJ is in Brokeback Mountain? How appropriate. LOL!
Guys, cmon. Talking shit when people aren't here to defend themselves, calling people "gay. " Just chill. We are in a fuckin renaissance here right now, get out and enjoy yourselves.
CuriousJo8
08-04-22, 22:59
I ignore this thread because drama is just a waste of energy which I would rather drain in a bag in a hot girl's wet pussy.
However, I just wanted to chime in and agree wholeheartedly here. It is an incredibly rich environment right now with a shit ton of choices. There aren't enough reports of Sophia and Lucky in my opinion. I am always curious what's going down in Erma, Ocean Breeze, and Flanders. Lisa and Mina are back in town. I am honestly sad for PTJ if he hasn't reunited with his favorite ladies already. 108 has Abby, Helen, Hyuna, Stella, and Teresa. Helen and Teresa have that particular sexy Asian skinny figure that I just find so incredibly sexy and desirable. 7 Spa has sexy Kayla and voluptuous May and Juju. My point being we are incredibly fortunate to be in a city with a whole lot of choices and options.
And if that weren't enough, Hong Kong is just south of the border with their hundreds of hotties.
Let's have fun and write reports about it.
Cheers.
Guys, cmon. Talking shit when people aren't here to defend themselves, calling people "gay. " Just chill. We are in a fuckin renaissance here right now, get out and enjoy yourselves.
Bogey The Last
08-05-22, 00:27
I ignore this thread because drama is just a waste of energy.
Lisa and Mina are back in town.Thanks for ignoring this thread.
Yes Lisa has been here for a month and Mina is back.
You're welcome.
Sir Bishop
08-05-22, 00:35
From the fucking 80's. IP information is fucking useless which is why we don't log it. I'm not going to give a class to help trolls improve their game on how to spoof your IP but even without doing anything since the explosion of smart phones IP info is less than useless for what you're describing. Because the internet still pretty much functions on IP 4 but has so many devices that IP 6 addressing is needed what ISP's do is something called NAT (Network Address Translation) https://avinetworks.com/glossary/network-address-translation/#:~:text=Network%20Address%20Translation%20(NAT)%20is,private%20network%20a%20public%20address I'll just thumbnail it for you since you're a fucking idiot.
ALL of these trolls, AND YOU come from the same IP as we see it. Your phone has an IP 6 address (looks like this fe80 d4 a8:6435: d2 d8: d9 f3 b11) but then when it hits your ISP it's converted to IP 4 (looks like XXX.XXX.XXX.XXX) so literally 10's of thousands of people have the same IP address publicly.
The way to get rid of trolls is really fucking simple, trolls CRAVE attention, every single fucking time you guys address them you encourage them to post more.
I identify them, label them, and suggest you ignore them. You do not, you are part of the problem.
Next time know what the fuck you're talking about.
A2.My IP address is 2600:8801: a003:8000:5087: f07 b:7640: e885 dip shit. Or I can change that to "Not detected" or maybe even 185.236. 203.13 from Denmark. Label me Jackson. I'm calling your ass out as an admin on this board that is indiscriminate in how you administer this board. You have not followed the overall guidelines by publicly attacking me, "you're a fucking idiot". As an admin, I would not have expected you to attack a member of this forum, which you have done.
I was not looking for attention. I've been in the tech business for over 40 years and was offering suggestions. You may have used some of my black hat tricks. You don't want to take those suggestions, fine. Do not attack other forum members which is counter to forum guidelines. Now send your private email message to me again. I'd put the admin for this forum on my ignore list but that option has been disabled. Have a good day.
And let me repeat what I said in my last post. . . "We mongers have more in common than the petty differences that some are triggered by. " But if someone calls me out, I got to have my bit of fun.
You boys are schooling me on the best way to contribute to this forum. I bow in gratitude for the reminder.
Let's see if your pals are as gracious.
Guys, cmon. Talking shit when people aren't here to defend themselves, calling people "gay. " Just chill. We are in a fuckin renaissance here right now, get out and enjoy yourselves.
I ignore this thread because drama is just a waste of energy which I would rather drain in a bag in a hot girl's wet pussy.
However, I just wanted to chime in and agree wholeheartedly here. It is an incredibly rich environment right now with a shit ton of choices. There aren't enough reports of Sophia and Lucky in my opinion. I am always curious what's going down in Erma, Ocean Breeze, and Flanders. Lisa and Mina are back in town. I am honestly sad for PTJ if he hasn't reunited with his favorite ladies already. 108 has Abby, Helen, Hyuna, Stella, and Teresa. Helen and Teresa have that particular sexy Asian skinny figure that I just find so incredibly sexy and desirable. 7 Spa has sexy Kayla and voluptuous May and Juju. My point being we are incredibly fortunate to be in a city with a whole lot of choices and options.
And if that weren't enough, Hong Kong is just south of the border with their hundreds of hotties.
Let's have fun and write reports about it.
Cheers.
BlueSkyBlue
08-05-22, 11:57
The problem with replying to your various Pseudonyms Roger is that you use so many on this forum.
Sometimes it's laughable how you reply to your own posts with different usernames.
You have been a shill on this forum for years and gracious is not the term I would use to describe you, petty little vindictive ***** is a little more like it. I have known who you are for a couple of the years after some drama at a spa that doesn't get much Discussion nowadays (do you still hate the owners dog? Mostly I don't give a shit about your shill nonsense but it can get tiring.
You're a goddamn hypocrite to post about shills and if you want to look me in the eye little man and have this conversation face to face we can do that too as you know we have mutual friends.
I'm told overall your not a bad guy but from my point of your an annoying shill for a variety of places at different times and the Hypocrisy of some of your posts is galling.
And let me repeat what I said in my last post. ." But if someone calls me out, I got to have my bit of fun.
You boys are schooling me on the best way to contribute to this forum. I bow in gratitude for the reminder.
Let's see if your pals are as gracious.
Cobra Comander
08-05-22, 17:46
Sometimes I wish Hizark21 - Hargow 20 - Mongerseeker would frequent MPs so we could get his thoughts on all of this.
LOL! CC.
Are you referring to Rching? Based off of the description, I'm guessing Rching is who you are referring to. Did you know that Delmar Surfdog got bounced from this forum for revealing RChing's first name and ethnicity? If you didn't know, the first name is the same one you used in your post.
The problem with replying to your various Pseudonyms Roger is that you use so many on this forum.
Sometimes it's laughable how you reply to your own posts with different usernames.
You have been a shill on this forum for years and gracious is not the term I would use to describe you, petty little vindictive ***** is a little more like it. I have known who you are for a couple of the years after some drama at a spa that doesn't get much Discussion nowadays (do you still hate the owners dog? Mostly I don't give a shit about your shill nonsense but it can get tiring.
You're a goddamn hypocrite to post about shills and if you want to look me in the eye little man and have this conversation face to face we can do that too as you know we have mutual friends.
I'm told overall your not a bad guy but from my point of your an annoying shill for a variety of places at different times and the Hypocrisy of some of your posts is galling.
Guys, cmon. Talking shit when people aren't here to defend themselves, calling people "gay. " Just chill. We are in a fuckin renaissance here right now, get out and enjoy yourselves.Talking shit when people aren't here to defend themselves? Really? We are all anonymously hiding behind laptops, pads, smartphones (unless our IP address gives up our real identity). This is the age of digital courage where any geek can talk shit without being concerned about getting knocked out.
Blueskybkue sounds like he is ready to come out from behind the digital curtain and go toe to toe with someone. I'm just trying to figure out who.
Nothing personal Waylay. I just got a laugh out of your post. I know that you meant well.
SDJaziKing
08-05-22, 18:42
Talking shit when people aren't here to defend themselves? Really? We are all anonymously hiding behind laptops, pads, smartphones (unless our IP address gives up our real identity). This is the age of digital courage where any geek can talk shit without being concerned about getting knocked out.
Blueskybkue sounds like he is ready to come out from behind the digital curtain and go toe to toe with someone. I'm just trying to figure out who.
Nothing personal Waylay. I just got a laugh out of your post. I know that you meant well.It's always fun to watch people argue over stupid shits LOL so fitting for this thread.
BlueSkyBlue
08-05-22, 18:48
Absolutely not.
Somebody else entirely.
As far as I am able to tell after being on this forum for years, RChangDatyKing is an honest and honourable reviewer on this forum who is not a shill for a variety of spas nor does he use a variety of logins to promote some agenda.
I am definitely not referring to him.
Are you referring to Rching? Based off of the description, I'm guessing Rching is who you are referring to. Did you know that Delmar Surfdog got bounced from this forum for revealing RChing's first name and ethnicity? If you didn't know, the first name is the same one you used in your post.
Bogey The Last
08-05-22, 18:59
Talking shit when people aren't here to defend themselves? Really?.Are you trying to tell us that you have to physically be located in the city of San Diego to respond to something on the internet? I mean really? Just because one guy is in the broke back mountains does not mean that there is not internet up there. Just because one other guy is traveling somewhere in the United States does not mean that there is no internet. Hell I had great internet when I was visiting Thailand, Cambodia, Singapore, japan, Korea, China, etc.
Sheesh.
What are you talking about?
CityboysUp
08-05-22, 19:04
Honestly this forum was running fairly smoothly for awhile until one or two users started becoming really aggressive and applying unethical business practices. I wish the admins were more proactive about banning the accounts because it is night and day which accounts are associated.
Before, we used to have people post reviews, some a little over the top, but more or less honest at least. Some users would get offended at other's ratings and there would be a small discussion about it and that was that.
And then the bookers started showing up and kept pushing their subpar products on to us. There was also even a point in time where said individual would post blatantly negative reviews for competing agencies, but stopped when they started getting called out on it. They would try to promote poor business tactics as necessary actions, ie. Fake photos to protect girl's identities. But the worse of it. Was promoting trash providers in order to generate unwarranted business.
The forum has been poisoned, but it can recover. But the users need to be vigilant in identifying and removing these users if they do not wish to operate honestly.
Unfortunately it's still bad. I received a PM from a user after I left some negative reviews on SDAG girls telling me "he wanted to talk to me". For damn shame.
Pete The Great
08-05-22, 20:00
Sometimes I wish Hizark21 - Hargow 20 - Mongerseeker would frequent MPs so we could get his thoughts on all of this.
LOL! CC.LOL! I was thinking the same thing. Hey Mongerseeker, what are your thoughts on all this nonsense?
PenguinsAndieg
08-05-22, 20:39
Are you referring to Rching? Based off of the description, I'm guessing Rching is who you are referring to. Did you know that Delmar Surfdog got bounced from this forum for revealing RChing's first name and ethnicity? If you didn't know, the first name is the same one you used in your post.I'm probably more lost that you are, EH09 M3. I feel like there are more than two factions at odds and I can't seem to figure which members side with whom.
I recently made the leap to AMP from independents and don't browse the agency forums so I might be missing a lot of background stories.
Are you trying to tell us that you have to physically be located in the city of San Diego to respond to something on the internet? I mean really? Just because one guy is in the broke back mountains does not mean that there is not internet up there. Just because one other guy is traveling somewhere in the United States does not mean that there is no internet. Hell I had great internet when I was visiting Thailand, Cambodia, Singapore, japan, Korea, China, etc.
Sheesh.
What are you talking about?Ugh, that was Waylay's assertion if you go back to the original post. I was just having fun with it and pointing out how everyone has big balls in the digital correspondence era. If you don't comprehend, then never mind.
Cobra Comander
08-05-22, 20:54
LOL! I was thinking the same thing. Hey Mongerseeker, what are your thoughts on all this nonsense?He would say he wishes he could find a good looking WSW for a reasonable price.
Oh and he also drove around looking for Brittany.
LOL CC.
I got to say, I've never once picked up a SW or even thought about it. But I love that thread. You SW guys are out on the front lines, playing the real game. Not even making fun. Yall are on a different level with a whole different set of highs and lows.
BeachDrone
08-05-22, 23:53
I got to say, I've never once picked up a SW or even thought about it. But I love that thread. You SW guys are out on the front lines, playing the real game. Not even making fun. Yall are on a different level with a whole different set of highs and lows.Agree. Never picked one up, but that world is fascinating to me. I, too, love that thread. I'm even a little too chicken to make a drive by. Used to go to LA for work once a week, and was tempted to drive down Fig, but never did. Keep it up guys, it's the real world.
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