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Here is an example of a popular conspiracy theorist who influenced thousands of people to distrust covid news reports and fears via his radio talk shows. Of course, you know how this ends. He contracted covid and died. During his battle with covid he expressed his regret in not taking covid seriously and reversed his position on advising folks against getting the vaccine and mask wearing. He regretted that his earlier advice caused thousands to avoid getting the vaccine.Unsurprisingly, the largest misinformed group of anti-vaccinators are always (addicted) online. Anti-vaccination support on Twitter is associated with a general belief in conspiracy theories coupled with emotionally and mentally disturbed behaviors; a virtual community led by influencers and you-know-who, IMO.
If I was sick I would wear a mask out in public. But DogStar is right a masks in-itself will not prevent the transfer of covid, it's hand to mouth transmission, when a someone has it and get mucus on their hand and touches a door for example then you go touch that door then touch your mouth or nose, that's how germs, flu and most bacteria and viruses spread. If masks make people feel comfortable then so be it, but if someone has covid and they are sneezing for example and they don't have a mask on and you are withing 3 feet of them and you don't have a mask on then chances of you catching it are much higher than if you both had masks on. That's just common scene. If you are that close to someone then chances are you are touching things they are touching as well, like at dinner or a party, etc. I would never wear a mask outside unless I'm sick, but unfortunately you have these control freaks that are making people wear masks to shop, it is what it is.
The size of the hole of the average cloth mask you buy at a store is 2. 5 microns and a Covid particle is. 1 micron. Do the math. So that means the particle will go right through the mask without any difficulty. Therefore, masks don't work. It's all a scam to control people.
Like getting the flu shot getting the vaccine should be an individual choice. My personally feeling is, First, Never believe these numbers you read in the media and the ones coming out of the hospitals can be inflated as well. . Secondly, people pushing other people to get vaccinated are pushing a political agenda, never ever ever listen to them. They are political puppets.
For people that want the truth and people considering getting vaccinated, The pfizer and moderna vaccines using mRNA delivery seem to be safer then the older way of producing these vaccines using traditional virus-based technology called adenovirus. Like the J&J method. I have never got a flu shot in my life, I know that by the time the flu shot comes out, another mutated flu strain is already out and the current vaccine is not relevant, they have used the adenovirus techniques for flu shots. Having said that, the mRNA vaccines they have developed for covid-19 specifically using spike protein are safer (pfizer and moderna) and I would highly recommend getting the two shot's treatment so when you do get covid your body will have some soldiers within your immunity system to help fight the virus so you don't end up in the hospital. There are no guarantees that you won't end up in the hospital, but your chances are better, you might not get as sick or you might not even get symptoms. Also, You can get covid being vaccinated, you can be a carrier passing covid with no symptoms. It's called Asymptomatic. People that had covid and recovered have already built immunity so I would never recommend getting vaccinated for these people as they get ALL the risk with no benefit. I wish I had covid and recovered but I didn't, I'm vaccinated. But that doesn't help ANYONE but me.
Recent and newest COVID-19 new daily case count at 890+ for the state; latest future estimate for October 2021 is 1200 new cases (the estimates and calculations by a mathematician using Probability and Statistics have been accurate thus far). It is estimated that 13% of the unvaccinated Hawaii population going get COVID sick, suffering, dying (along with long-termers), etc. Pitiful, but too late already (try make last, last chance for vaccinate today ASAP; go). The vaccine more better than ingesting/injecting the Clorox as once suggested by the lolo orange moron. Moe I Ka Maluhia.
Time to let go--let them all go. No sense spending any money, time, energy on the unvaccinated. They have chosen their fate, good for them, good for mankind. Let them go. Focus the new money on the vaccinated, safety from the unvaccinated. Lets turn the page already. This is Natural Selection at its best. Watch it play out, better than any streaming drama, LOL.Yups, looks like game over already for the chosen unvaccinated. Since get FDA approval for the Pfizer vaccine they no can win on the science already. So they stay looking for other / new excuses: (1) the public process and (2) independent oversight; they going try beat these two mechanisms to one pulp and going take long time. In the meantime, I guess they no know that more people going get sick and die for nothing. Sadly, 'time did tell' and when run out (with no overtime), IMO.
ReallyOldGuy
08-25-21, 01:27
Read that it's for deworming horses. Guess it works deworming people too.
Enjoy life, rog.Oh, forgot to add. If they die from covid and go to their graves, the worms will get them anyway. Enjor life, rog.
Yups, looks like game over already for the chosen unvaccinated. Since get FDA approval for the Pfizer vaccine they no can win on the science already. So they stay looking for other / new excuses: (1) the public process and (2) independent oversight; they going try beat these two mechanisms to one pulp and going take long time. In the meantime, I guess they no know that more people going get sick and die for nothing. Sadly, 'time did tell' and when run out (with no overtime), IMO.I wonder, do they also don't believe in the vaccines for polio and smallpox? I guess those vaccines didn't work either.
The flu vaccine has not all of the strains of flu that is out there. They guess and pick the ones that they believe will become the most widespread and most dangerous for the upcoming flu season. They don't always get that right. COVID still doesn't have that many mutations yet so a seasonal COVID shot might be a lot more effective than the flu shot.
Way too many cold viruses to even try.
Good one, Mits. Game is over, na na na, hey, hey, goodbye, LOL.
All these unvaccinated are like that second rate nfl QB kaperdilly--only half way committed, didn't risk everything, hurting others along with themselves, pretty selfish stuff.
No more excuses, no more attention, tests, no more. Done. Let them go, isolate on the Big Island somewhere under the volcano or at home with their entire family.
The rest who care can wear masks, get booster, social distance. Natural Selection will fast forward on Maui and Waianae / West Oahu among the unvaccinated--I predict 80% will get sick. Bet you dollar, LOL.
And all the states who proudly stood strong against the government -- please, please, please go all the way now and refuse any and all new drugs, vaccinations, for you and your family. Natural Selection, baby, be a part of History!
Wondering why the unvaccinated even bother to have their kids and themselves take any shots at all--should punt on all vaccines, all boosters, flu shots, heck, even new antibiotics count here-.
Be 100% committed and live the conspiracy theories out to the limit--don't let the government tell you want to do.
I fully support and applaud all those who don't take another vaccine or shot, and prevent their kids from doing it too. You have my support folks, 100% all in.
Now, you be all in, too, and embrace the commitment. Lucky we live America, free will, free will.
Come on, Gov, you on the right track. Let them go already--spend the. Money on the vaccinated, and all the business that comply should be rewarded. Make the strong stronger.
Yups, looks like game over already for the chosen unvaccinated. Since get FDA approval for the Pfizer vaccine they no can win on the science already. So they stay looking for other / new excuses: (1) the public process and (2) independent oversight; they going try beat these two mechanisms to one pulp and going take long time. In the meantime, I guess they no know that more people going get sick and die for nothing. Sadly, 'time did tell' and when run out (with no overtime), IMO.
FleshPrince
08-25-21, 05:08
Like getting the flu shot getting the vaccine should be an individual choice. My personally feeling is, First, Never believe these numbers you read in the media and the ones coming out of the hospitals can be inflated as well. . Secondly, people pushing other people to get vaccinated are pushing a political agenda, never ever ever listen to them. They are political puppets.
For people that want the truth and people considering getting vaccinated, The pfizer and moderna vaccines using mRNA delivery seem to be safer then the older way of producing these vaccines using traditional virus-based technology called adenovirus. Like the J&J method. I have never got a flu shot in my life, I know that by the time the flu shot comes out, another mutated flu strain is already out and the current vaccine is not relevant, they have used the adenovirus techniques for flu shots. Having said that, the mRNA vaccines they have developed for covid-19 specifically using spike protein are safer (pfizer and moderna) and I would highly recommend getting the two shot's treatment so when you do get covid your body will have some soldiers within your immunity system to help fight the virus so you don't end up in the hospital. There are no guarantees that you won't end up in the hospital, but your chances are better, you might not get as sick or you might not even get symptoms. Also, You can get covid being vaccinated, you can be a carrier passing covid with no symptoms. It's called Asymptomatic. People that had covid and recovered have already built immunity so I would never recommend getting vaccinated for these people as they get ALL the risk with no benefit. I wish I had covid and recovered but I didn't, I'm vaccinated. But that doesn't help ANYONE but me.I read your post and I don't really understand it. On the one hand, you're advising people to not believe the media, nor hospitals, nor people who say that getting the vaccine is a good idea because those people are pushing a political agenda. But on the other hand, you're advocating for the vaccine in your post. You sound like a proponent of the vaccine and a semi- proponent of masks. How can you advocate for this stuff but simultaneously tell people to rebel against PEOPLE WHO ADVISE the public to do the same thing you are advocating? I must be missing something.
I read your post and I don't really understand it. On the one hand, you're advising people to not believe the media, nor hospitals, nor people who say that getting the vaccine is a good idea because those people are pushing a political agenda. But on the other hand, you're advocating for the vaccine in your post. You sound like a proponent of the vaccine and a semi- proponent of masks. How can you advocate for this stuff but simultaneously tell people to rebel against PEOPLE WHO ADVISE the public to do the same thing you are advocating? I must be missing something.Yes. You missed something. Carl1985 has a similar view as mine except about his views on getting the flu shot.
It is a personal matter dealing with one's health and the government has little business to make somebody to get vaccinated when they can get major health issues from the vaccine itself. I got real sick from it for a couple of days. Forcing people to get vaccinated with a vaccine that has some health risks for some sounds a bit communistic and not so American where you generally have the freedom to do stupid things and die because of it. I have heard about people getting major health problems from the vaccine. Or is that also fake news?
My views about the COVID shot are similar to my views about mongering. Should the government have the right to tell me that I am not allowed to go mongering because people can spread diseases that way? Should I force a provider to do bareback if she is not willing to take that risk? Since the government has made it illegal to go mongering I guess the government has to ability to make not getting the vaccine or not wearing a mask illegal as well. Doesnt mean that I agree with that view.
We all should be able to decide what risks we should take and not have that forced upon us. Although I believe that risks in getting the vaccine is less than not getting the vaccine doesn't give me the right to make that decision for you. If this vaccine was 100% safe then you would have a stronger case to force people to do it. That is the piece of the argument that you seem to have missed.
I got the COVID shots and I don't think it will prevent me from getting COVID at all now. I believe that it will hopefully let me have no symptoms or just mild symptoms that will keep me out of the hospital and dying when I do get it. But I still get a 15% chance of the vaccine of having no effect at all. This is the way this new kind of vaccine seems to be working.
I wonder, do they also don't believe in the vaccines for polio and smallpox? I guess those vaccines didn't work either. The flu vaccine has not all of the strains of flu that is out there. They guess and pick the ones that they believe will become the most widespread and most dangerous for the upcoming flu season. They don't always get that right. COVID still doesn't have that many mutations yet so a seasonal COVID shot might be a lot more effective than the flu shot. Way too many cold viruses to even try.One 'blockbuster' drug is 80-85% efficacy for the population; asking for 100% efficacy is showing beaucoup naivete, being arcane and unrealistic. The vaccines are doing what they were designed to do for its recipients and, due to the variant (s), we probably going need one booster (still being debated; ask your doctor about your particular case). Anyway, vaccination stay moot already (the Pfizer vaccine is FDA approved) and the flu shot is separate; no get information from the lolos online (ask one qualified, respected medical professional; second opinion if you must). No can eat personal choices and liberties-starvation going happen if personally inflexible and no can use the fn upper head. If some people no can because they born that way and their DNA prevents this, then no can help and no more chance, IMO.
Natural Selection will fast forward on Maui and Waianae / West Oahu among the unvaccinated--I predict 80% will get sick. Bet you dollar, LOL. Make the strong stronger.Ho, if 80% Westside get sick then all wipeout over there. Crime (arson, attempted murder, murder, animal cruelty, fraud, etc.) and societal problems (homelessness, domestic violence, abuse, etc.) all going down; going be lonely out there but get enough shat all over the island chain for cover the losses. According to news, efficacy of the original vaccines down to 60% now (due to the variant (s)) so guarans going need the voluntary booster for 9 X efficacy and hopefully cover the Lambda; pretty good and worth it (better than long term illness / symptoms, and / or one undignified death). I wish finish already so can go KB with complete confidence.
FleshPrince
08-25-21, 18:13
Yes. You missed something. Carl1985 has a similar view as mine except about his views on getting the flu shot.
It is a personal matter dealing with one's health and the government has little business to make somebody to get vaccinated when they can get major health issues from the vaccine itself. I got real sick from it for a couple of days. Forcing people to get vaccinated with a vaccine that has some health risks for some sounds a bit communistic and not so American where you generally have the freedom to do stupid things and die because of it. I have heard about people getting major health problems from the vaccine. Or is that also fake news?
My views about the COVID shot are similar to my views about mongering. Should the government have the right to tell me that I am not allowed to go mongering because people can spread diseases that way? Should I force a provider to do bareback if she is not willing to take that risk? Since the government has made it illegal to go mongering I guess the government has to ability to make not getting the vaccine or not wearing a mask illegal as well. Doesnt mean that I agree with that view.
We all should be able to decide what risks we should take and not have that forced upon us. Although I believe that risks in getting the vaccine is less than not getting the vaccine doesn't give me the right to make that decision for you. If this vaccine was 100% safe then you would have a stronger case to force people to do it. That is the piece of the argument that you seem to have missed.
I got the COVID shots and I don't think it will prevent me from getting COVID at all now. I believe that it will hopefully let me have no symptoms or just mild symptoms that will keep me out of the hospital and dying when I do get it. But I still get a 15% chance of the vaccine of having no effect at all. This is the way this new kind of vaccine seems to be working.You completely missed my point. My point was that carl1985 stated in his post to "never ever ever" listen to those who are pushing for the vaccine because they are political puppets. Yet, he ironically said that he "highly recommends getting the two shot treatment" so that your body can fight the virus if you do contract it. So my point is he sure sounds like someone who is pushing for people to get the vaccine. Which makes him one of the people who everyone should not listen to, right? In other words it seems hypocritical or hella ironic to say the least. That's all.
You completely missed my point. My point was that carl1985 stated in his post to "never ever ever" listen to those who are pushing for the vaccine because they are political puppets. Yet, he ironically said that he "highly recommends getting the two shot treatment" so that your body can fight the virus if you do contract it. So my point is he sure sounds like someone who is pushing for people to get the vaccine. Which makes him one of the people who everyone should not listen to, right? In other words it seems hypocritical or hella ironic to say the least. That's all.LOL. Yes. I sure did. Thanks for clarifying.
FleshPrince
08-25-21, 20:34
LOL. Yes. I sure did. Thanks for clarifying.To further clarify, I'm not faulting him for supporting getting the vaccine. I'm just pointing out that his post was sorta contradictory against himself.
GreenTrees
08-25-21, 22:49
Good one, Mits. Game is over, na na na, hey, hey, goodbye, LOL.
All these unvaccinated are like that second rate nfl QB kaperdilly--only half way committed, didn't risk everything, hurting others along with themselves, pretty selfish stuff.
No more excuses, no more attention, tests, no more. Done. Let them go, isolate on the Big Island somewhere under the volcano or at home with their entire family.Why such harsh criticisms for those not vaxed? No can live and let live? This not the forum where people say To Each His Own? So be it. Everyone's Mileage May Vary. Is this not America where we have the Freedom of choice?
Exhaled aerosols can be as small as 0. 2 micrometers = 200 nanometers. The rona is said to be 80-140 nanometers. We are really supposed to walking around wearing 3 M P100 hepa filter respirators if you want to be safe at 99.97% efficiency at 0. 3 microns.
Some people have jobs that did not shut down due to rona. They have been working right through it this whole time while the rest of the state got shut down. A place that employs 6000 people, but a huge chunk of that workforce went on leave during the state shut down. A place where new personnel is flown in every month to swap out with other personnel. And till this day, the coconut wireless has only brought up 1 person that recently passed away from rona, post jab period. People don't realize, that in such cases, certain entities do not have to disclose case counts. There are hundreds of people that work in this type of clandestine hot spot, many unvaxed, they seen people pop hot on tests. Then the contact tracing, then 20 employees go on leave for isolation for 2 weeks. Prior to the vax, these workers seen lots of people take rona tests. Some entities required a negative test for you to enter their space, they get swabbed and 15 minutes later they find out if they get to enter the space or not.
I like see your guys faces when you find out that the jab was part of a binary b10 wep0 n that you voluntarily took, so technically it is not a human rights violation. Trust the science. In the end, you might be wishing that those vials were really just filled with pure water and that it was just a pure water injection. If that jab is part of a binary wep, embrace the suck. Some people no like the jab because they know that rona passed thru oahu in Dec. 2019 thru Feb. 2020 and they been working in the hot zone the whole time while the island was shutdown. But others can trust the science, that's how it is for General Population, while those that got exposed over a year ago possibly have natural immunity now so why should they take the jab, better off give it to someone else that trust the science and needs the immunity that the jab will provide. Taking the jab when you have natural immunity could be seen as wasteful.
Bumbai bachi.
No criticism, hate, distain just no make any sense to throw any more of my tax dollars trying to get everyone vaccinated. Let them go. Spend the money on more important things.
Wow, so the vaccine is really a biological weapon? Now, that is not Natural Selection, but. A. purge. No can trust anybody. Anymore.
Why such harsh criticisms for those not vaxed? No can live and let live? This not the forum where people say To Each His Own? So be it. Everyone's Mileage May Vary. Is this not America where we have the Freedom of choice?
Exhaled aerosols can be as small as 0. 2 micrometers = 200 nanometers. The rona is said to be 80-140 nanometers. We are really supposed to walking around wearing 3 M P100 hepa filter respirators if you want to be safe at 99.97% efficiency at 0. 3 microns.
Some people have jobs that did not shut down due to rona. They have been working right through it this whole time while the rest of the state got shut down. A place that employs 6000 people, but a huge chunk of that workforce went on leave during the state shut down. A place where new personnel is flown in every month to swap out with other personnel. And till this day, the coconut wireless has only brought up 1 person that recently passed away from rona, post jab period. People don't realize, that in such cases, certain entities do not have to disclose case counts. There are hundreds of people that work in this type of clandestine hot spot, many unvaxed, they seen people pop hot on tests. Then the contact tracing, then 20 employees go on leave for isolation for 2 weeks. Prior to the vax, these workers seen lots of people take rona tests. Some entities required a negative test for you to enter their space, they get swabbed and 15 minutes later they find out if they get to enter the space or not..
I like see your guys faces when you find out that the jab was part of a binary b10 wep0 n that you voluntarily took
Bumbai bachi.You are not afraid of the government coming to get you for reporting that top secret info that you have acquired? Or did you get it backwards and the government is going to release the bio weapon and only those that didn't get the shots will die?
I would think that the government would rather keep the ones that do as they are told and only get rid of the ones that disobey.
You are one brave guy.
It's fairly simple, doesn't take a rocket scientist, the media is BIAS, when you have bias you have an agenda, Pushing a particular medication in a lot of cases is political and money driven, I work in a hospital and we are paid more to initially code and designate patience with let say influenza as covid so we get more money. Do you know the difference between, influenza, pneumonia and covid? Hundreds of thousands die from influenza but the media doesn't talk about that. Why? Why is the influenza rate lowest in history and covid rates high? People that push a risky vaccine on people ether have an agenda whatever that may be or they do not know the full story and just listing to the politicians and media. I "choose" to get vaccinated for the reasons I stated. It's up to the individual if they want to or not. I advocate and promote individual rights and knowledge. I would NOT however, recommend people to get vaccinated if they had covid and recovered. I would NOT recommend this vaccine for children.
I read your post and I don't really understand it. On the one hand, you're advising people to not believe the media, nor hospitals, nor people who say that getting the vaccine is a good idea because those people are pushing a political agenda. But on the other hand, you're advocating for the vaccine in your post. You sound like a proponent of the vaccine and a semi- proponent of masks. How can you advocate for this stuff but simultaneously tell people to rebel against PEOPLE WHO ADVISE the public to do the same thing you are advocating? I must be missing something.
FleshPrince
08-26-21, 21:33
It's fairly simple, doesn't take a rocket scientist, the media is BIAS, when you have bias you have an agenda, Pushing a particular medication in a lot of cases is political and money driven, I work in a hospital and we are paid more to initially code and designate patience with let say influenza as covid so we get more money. Do you know the difference between, influenza, pneumonia and covid? .Are you a doctor? Who are the hospital personnel responsible for "coding" or "designating" illnesses of "patience" as covid or something else?
GreenTrees
08-26-21, 22:08
You are not afraid of the government coming to get you for reporting that top secret info that you have acquired? Or did you get it backwards and the government is going to release the bio weapon and only those that didn't get the shots will die?
I would think that the government would rather keep the ones that do as they are told and only get rid of the ones that disobey.
You are one brave guy.Top Secret. ? Really? Do you know what it takes to get a Top Secret clearance? Guarantee you need to take a polygraph. I did not take a polygraph, only g00 gle search.
https://irp.fas.org/threat/cbw/nextgen.pdf
https://media.defense.gov/2019/Apr/11/2002115517/-1/-1/0/53ALMOSARAMONO.PDF
Info on g00 gle aint top secret. Whether or not the jab is part of a binary, I don't know that sort of info, however it is a possibility.
But don't be so naive to think that citizens in cities have not been lab rats unknowingly. Dig and research s at and fr at ncisc0. Even now, don't you notice how you get bubble guts every time the haze appears, oh then again, everyone here calls it vog. Pretty neat, never knew vog came from the northerly winds. Neat how stuff changes, while growing up vog only showed up with the Kona winds, not trade winds. Many will call it vog but those that know can tell the difference. Vog has sulfur dioxide. When it's thick, you can taste the vog because when you breathe it in and contacts water (in your lungs or mouth) it turns into sulfuric acid, hence the taste. The haze on the other hand, that is something different.
You ever checked c0 r0 nav1 rus patents on d-ckdu-kgo? Just one example.
https://patents.google.com/patent/US10130701B2/en
It's a good read. Look what falls under the category of d3 lt at. There is bulbul c0 r0 nav1 rus and thrush c0 r0 navi1 rus. Here in Hawaii we have both types of birds, 2 kinds of bulbuls and the surinam thrush. You no think we have been exposed to these types of c0 r0 na. Is it not a possibility that here in Hawaii we have better resistance naturally to c0 r0 nas because of our previous exposures? We have bulbuls, thrushes, cattle ranches (beta group bovine c0 v.), pig farms (porcine c0 v in alpha and d3 lta group), rats (rat c0 v in beta group), pheasants (gamma group pheasant c0 v), cats (alpha group feline c0 v), dogs (alpha and beta group). Just remember, the tests no can differentiate between alpha, beta, delta, gamma. The test was derived from strands of influ3 nza because there was no available sample of c0 v19 for them to make the test. What is your reasonable assurance that everyone not popping hot for influ3 nza A or B. Has anyone ever had flu A or B, either one can kill you if you are not in good health.
--Gain of function is the kicker.
This came out today, but I have read up on f0 rt d3 trick a while ago. Read up on f0 rt d3 trick, interesting stuff.
https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202108/1232467.shtml
Top Secret. ? Really? Do you know what it takes to get a Top Secret clearance? Guarantee you need to take a polygraph. I did not take a polygraph, only g00 gle search.
https://irp.fas.org/threat/cbw/nextgen.pdfThanks greentrees. I misunderstood you. I thought you were saying you had proof that the COVID vaccine was part of a bio weapon.
I looked at your first source which was written in 2002 and I was surprised to see that he went into detail about novel vaccines like we now using for COVID-19.
It is in part V when he discussed the six ways science can defend against the bio weapons that you described.
So what I understood from that author is getting vaccinated with these new style vaccines is a good defense for us to use for these genetically engineered viruses.
Boys and girls, sorry the number changes fast. Google and experts more smart than me, said 90+% of non vaccinated will get COVID. I. stand corrected.
Disproportionate number of West Oahu, Maui and Big Island residents chose no to the shot.
Lets see what happens in the next few months. Natural selection plays out in real time around the world including Hawaii.
Why such harsh criticisms for those not vaxed? No can live and let live? This not the forum where people say To Each His Own? So be it. Everyone's Mileage May Vary. Is this not America where we have the Freedom of choice?
Exhaled aerosols can be as small as 0. 2 micrometers = 200 nanometers. The rona is said to be 80-140 nanometers. We are really supposed to walking around wearing 3 M P100 hepa filter respirators if you want to be safe at 99.97% efficiency at 0. 3 microns.
Some people have jobs that did not shut down due to rona. They have been working right through it this whole time while the rest of the state got shut down. A place that employs 6000 people, but a huge chunk of that workforce went on leave during the state shut down. A place where new personnel is flown in every month to swap out with other personnel. And till this day, the coconut wireless has only brought up 1 person that recently passed away from rona, post jab period. People don't realize, that in such cases, certain entities do not have to disclose case counts. There are hundreds of people that work in this type of clandestine hot spot, many unvaxed, they seen people pop hot on tests. Then the contact tracing, then 20 employees go on leave for isolation for 2 weeks. Prior to the vax, these workers seen lots of people take rona tests. Some entities required a negative test for you to enter their space, they get swabbed and 15 minutes later they find out if they get to enter the space or not.
Boys and girls, sorry the number changes fast. Google and experts more smart than me, said 90+% of non vaccinated will get COVID. I. stand corrected. Lets see what happens in the next few months. Natural selection plays out in real time around the world including Hawaii.Well, get more than one thousand (1,034+) active COVID cases reported today for the state. No need wait for what happens in the next few months; if 90% of the unvaccinated get sick, health care costs going sky ukupaila.
LegendLuvr
08-27-21, 18:42
Well, get more than one thousand (1,034+) active COVID cases reported today for the state. No need wait for what happens in the next few months; if 90% of the unvaccinated get sick, health care costs going sky ukupaila.Have you been quarantining with Fate Yanagi?
Have you been quarantining with Fate Yanagi?No, because "My friend Bernard came in and said "Waste time I came, I thought you was dead".
I said "Bernard, do one favor for me, give my aloha to the people you see.
And especially. Tell Fate Yanagi I love her (I love her); Tell Fate Yanagi I need her; Tell Fate Yanagi no go cry.
And no go out with Mits Funai." Now you know why?
Well let's hear your legit ideas only thing I can think of is shut down again?
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Have you been quarantining with Fate Yanagi?Who is that? You wanted to quarantine with her?
Who is that? You wanted to quarantine with her?She was one awesome wahine from the 70's that became very famous along with our very own MitsuFunai that she was warned about. Like in another popular song, she had a "Sweet Okole".
Well let's hear your legit ideas only thing I can think of is shut down again?Back to March 2020.
Maybe our governor will ask former Mayor Harry Kim to take over like he did with the TMT. Make him take the rap.
Microbiologist explains the Coronavirus vaccine will depopulate the world:
https://www.remnant-tv.com/video/they-are-killing-people-with-covid-vaccines-to-reduce-population
Why such harsh criticisms for those not vaxed? No can live and let live? This not the forum where people say To Each His Own? So be it. Everyone's Mileage May Vary. Is this not America where we have the Freedom of choice?
Exhaled aerosols can be as small as 0. 2 micrometers = 200 nanometers. The rona is said to be 80-140 nanometers. We are really supposed to walking around wearing 3 M P100 hepa filter respirators if you want to be safe at 99.97% efficiency at 0. 3 microns.
Some people have jobs that did not shut down due to rona. They have been working right through it this whole time while the rest of the state got shut down. A place that employs 6000 people, but a huge chunk of that workforce went on leave during the state shut down. A place where new personnel is flown in every month to swap out with other personnel. And till this day, the coconut wireless has only brought up 1 person that recently passed away from rona, post jab period. People don't realize, that in such cases, certain entities do not have to disclose case counts. There are hundreds of people that work in this type of clandestine hot spot, many unvaxed, they seen people pop hot on tests. Then the contact tracing, then 20 employees go on leave for isolation for 2 weeks. Prior to the vax, these workers seen lots of people take rona tests. Some entities required a negative test for you to enter their space, they get swabbed and 15 minutes later they find out if they get to enter the space or not.
I like see your guys faces when you find out that the jab was part of a binary b10 wep0 n that you voluntarily took, so technically it is not a human rights violation. Trust the science. In the end, you might be wishing that those vials were really just filled with pure water and that it was just a pure water injection. If that jab is part of a binary wep, embrace the suck. Some people no like the jab because they know that rona passed thru oahu in Dec. 2019 thru Feb. 2020 and they been working in the hot zone the whole time while the island was shutdown. But others can trust the science, that's how it is for General Population, while those that got exposed over a year ago possibly have natural immunity now so why should they take the jab, better off give it to someone else that trust the science and needs the immunity that the jab will provide. Taking the jab when you have natural immunity could be seen as wasteful.
Bumbai bachi."Binary weapon"? Wassat? One thing is real is over a half million dead due to covid. So maybe that is "inflated" because they had underlying conditions but half of us probably have underlying conditions we don't even know about. Too bad the conservatives lose the next election because so many of them died off because they wouldn't take the vaccine or wear masks. Sure, your choice but not a rational choice. Even if you have an allegory to the vax, they can pull you out of allergic anaphylactic shock with an epi pen. If you get bad covid they can't pull you out. Oh, yea, maybe just maybe that monoclonal antibody treatment will keep you from dying if it is even available. Oh, wait, isn't that experimental too?
About the virus size and mesh size of masks. The mask is not to screen the virus out. It's to screen out that big blob of mucous coming out of your mouth that has a bunch of virus in it so that blob don't land in grandma's eye.
This is Blangiardi's current statement regarding the COVID situation in Honolulu county: "This is not a circumstance about individual rights. This is about community health," he said. "I don't know what else I can possibly say to those people that I've seen firsthand, they're so hostile and angry about this. I just hope you don't get sick, and I hope you don't die. " One 937+ active COVID cases day today statewide; no mercy. Paisan: Accentuate the positive; eliminate the negative.
Incogfilipino
08-29-21, 02:07
"Binary weapon"? Wassat? One thing is real is over a half million dead due to covid. So maybe that is "inflated" because they had underlying conditions but half of us probably have underlying conditions we don't even know about.This is from a related reddit thread.
https://twitter.com/AllysonBlairTV/status/1431495263772758018
Here's a transcription of the details attached in the tweet:
Most of the people dying of COVID are listed as having "underlying conditions."
I asked Hilton Raethel, head of the Healthcare Association of Hawaii to review the agency's data and compile a specific list of conditions that have been most associated with hospitalization and deaths in the islands.
That list includes:
-Chronic kidney disease
-Heart disease
-Lung disease
-Stroke
-Obesity
"Obesity is a challenge," he said. "The body has to work harder. The heart and the lungs have to work harder to circulate air and oxygen and blood through the body -- as the body gets larger. "So it puts a lot more strain on the organs."
Raethel says there have also been a significant number of COVID patients with complications of infections -- like sepsis and cellulitis-- who have been hospitalized or died.We have a ton of obese people in the US. People think of underlying conditions as something major, but get plenty fat people who don't ever think it is a health risk.
Why such harsh criticisms for those not vaxed? I suspect partially because they are viewed as being stubborn and selfish. Filling up approx 90% of the beds in the ER and ICU units due to a condition that would otherwise be avoidable if only they were vaccinated. As a result, the hospitals are being forced to place many needed surgeries on hold because of these people. You probably won't hear this publicly, but there is a lot of resentment out there among the hospital staffing, I've been told.
This is from a related reddit thread. We have a ton of obese people in the US. People think of underlying conditions as something major, but get plenty fat people who don't ever think it is a health risk.The medical people use CDC (P) guidelines for what is considered an "underlying health risk" versus the "immunocompromised" for high risk / severe conditions requiring hospitalization; CDC (P) has an extensive, detailed breakdown and classification of such conditions, if interested (please go their site for specifics). For example, I inquired if being obese would be an "underlying health risk" and therefore a condition of being "immunocompromised" but it was not. Although obesity is a health risk it was not a condition of being "immunocompromised" (cancer, COPD, too many to list) as defined by the CDC (P); so go the site to confirm and ask your physician to double-check. Being obese could be more than just one physical disease, as we all may know (info deemed accurate, but not guaranteed).
River Raid
08-29-21, 16:57
I suspect partially because they are viewed as being stubborn and selfish. Filling up approx 90% of the beds in the ER and ICU units due to a condition that would otherwise be avoidable if only they were vaccinated. As a result, the hospitals are being forced to place many needed surgeries on hold because of these people. You probably won't hear this publicly, but there is a lot of resentment out there among the hospital staffing, I've been told.I don't blame the hospital staffing, they are being overwhelmed when they shouldn't have to.
Dam it's getting worst 1678 count today.
Dam it's getting worst 1678 count today.Yeah, probably one big announcement this coming Wednesday. Beach Party Bingo 400+, unvaccinated, insurers, hospitals, medical personnel, etc. , all applying the pressure for drastic measures, IMO. Some people just love ferking themselves and others in the okole.
Incogfilipino
08-30-21, 06:10
The medical people use CDC (P) guidelines for what is considered an "underlying health risk" versus the "immunocompromised" for high risk / severe conditions requiring hospitalization; CDC (P) has an extensive, detailed breakdown and classification of such conditions, if interested (please go their site for specifics). For example, I inquired if being obese would be an "underlying health risk" and therefore a condition of being "immunocompromised" but it was not. Although obesity is a health risk it was not a condition of being "immunocompromised" (cancer, COPD, too many to list) as defined by the CDC (P); so go the site to confirm and ask your physician to double-check. Being obese could be more than just one physical disease, as we all may know (info deemed accurate, but not guaranteed).I'm vaccinated and not obese, so I'm not worried about that. Just the conversation with my friends who don't want to get the vaccination believe all the "underlying conditions" are people with stuff like cancer or whatever. The twitter link specifically talks the conditions they are seeing in Hawaii.
Dam it's getting worst 1678 count today.AND more than half are "A" or have very minimal symptoms. How many.
DEATHS?
Mo better just shut down the West side. Numbers there are astronomical and rising, but good news is that it will peak soon as virus will run out of people to infect.
Testing centers are full but not surprisingly vaccination places are slow. Changing beliefs and behaviour very difficult.
Dam it's getting worst 1678 count today.
[QUOTE=DogStarMicrobiologist explains the Coronavirus vaccine will depopulate the world:
I love conspiracy theories. I especially like youy become magnetized. Its amazing that people repeat the crap as truth. LOL let the dimwits ones die as in the south. We don't need them anyway. , humans arent endangered species. Get rid of the old dumb republicans and white trash. BTW I am white so don't start w the racists bs.
Sadly, some lolos stay radicalized already; they have adopted radical positions on political or social issues that deviate from the norm. For example, both international, domestic terrorism and extremist groups are seeking to radicalize Americans, and they have begun to use and master social media as a means to spread their kaka as truth (aka: mind control; mind bending). More easy to fill one empty jug than vice versa when using psychological warfare. The master and his vehicles of staging, framing and 'the con' has further ruined our country.
TrialnError
08-30-21, 17:22
Going to be junk holiday season if UH researchers are correct with their projections.
https://www.kitv.com/story/44622599/uh-researchers-discuss-pandemic-predictions-heading-into-fall
FleshLight69
08-30-21, 17:29
Mo better just shut down the West side. Numbers there are astronomical and rising, but good news is that it will peak soon as virus will run out of people to infect.
Testing centers are full but not surprisingly vaccination places are slow. Changing beliefs and behaviour very difficult.People will die no matter if there are restrictions (shut down temporarily) or open everything. Let the virus take it's course.
Mo better just shut down the West side. Numbers there are astronomical and rising, but good news is that it will peak soon as virus will run out of people to infect. Testing centers are full but not surprisingly vaccination places are slow. Changing beliefs and behaviour very difficult.Good one; only get one roadway in / out anyway down dea. That's funny, waiting for either the vehicle to run out of gas or breakdown for solve the problem. Seriously, get some guys rather die than get vaccinated; death wish all-around without one out (should always get one exit strategy, IMO).
YogiBear007
08-30-21, 22:49
Dam it's getting worst 1678 count today.Just shut it down. Too much idiots partying and don't give a sh*t.
FleshLight69
09-01-21, 15:08
Just shut it down. Too much idiots partying and don't give a sh*t.State better start getting more containers available, unless there already on backorder?
Just shut it down. Too much idiots partying and don't give a sh*t.Cops should issue fines and tickets for these idiots who make it worst for everyone else, just like those who refuse vaccinations and end up clogging the limited supply of hospital ICU beds, often forcing those to postpone their surgeries, prolonging the agony and suffering for those who really need that critical care all because selfish jerks doing what they please and messing it up for everyone. Seems like the State might again lock down Hawaii and put more people out of work and more business filing for bankruptcies.
FleshLight69
09-03-21, 12:05
Cops should issue fines and tickets for these idiots who make it worst for everyone else, just like those who refuse vaccinations and end up clogging the limited supply of hospital ICU beds, often forcing those to postpone their surgeries, prolonging the agony and suffering for those who really need that critical care all because selfish jerks doing what they please and messing it up for everyone. Seems like the State might again lock down Hawaii and put more people out of work and more business filing for bankruptcies.The DNLR quoted they are serious about the virus and will be issuing citations and so are HPD. They did this last year and most of the citations were put into the paper shredded.
People know the prisons are full with virus again and still they refuse the vaccine.
Hospitals should NOT give treatment to unvaccinated individuals. Send those to pull a number and wait till their number is called.
If you think you can't wait for treatment, go directly to the containers.
Get lots of clean beds waiting to be filled.
To many assholes! Causing problems for the vaccinated individuals.
The DNLR quoted they are serious about the virus and will be issuing citations and so are HPD. They did this last year and most of the citations were put into the paper shredded.
People know the prisons are full with virus again and still they refuse the vaccine.
Hospitals should NOT give treatment to unvaccinated individuals. Send those to pull a number and wait till their number is called.
If you think you can't wait for treatment, go directly to the containers.
Get lots of clean beds waiting to be filled.
To many assholes! Causing problems for the vaccinated individuals.If you are one of the people refusing the vaccinations, can you give me your reasons for NOT getting vaccinated to help me understand your point of view. A guy I know just attended the funeral of his 27 year old friend last week who died due to catching covid. When my friend asked him why he did not get vaccinated, all he was told was that he would rather die than get vaccinated. No other reason was given. The guy got his wish and it is so sad.
When my friend asked him why he did not get vaccinated, all he was told was that he would rather die than get vaccinated. No other reason was given.Choices and Consequences. If they don't know why themselves, what we going to do? Can make all the mandates, policies, etc. , but no can force them; they question everything because they born liddat (it's in their DNA). Just going make one excuse after another one; endless.
If you think you can't wait for treatment, go directly to the containers. To many assholes! Causing problems for the vaccinated individuals.Pretty soon got to fill Aloha Stadium with the frozen cadaver containers. The future unvaccinated tenants just hollow; for them, it's only about "me, my, I, mine." Protect and reward the majority.
I really don't understand why people need to gas light the issue of being vaccinated or not. Look at Oscar De La Hoya, fully vaccinated and in the hospital with Covid. You will get Covid whether your vaccinated or not!, why can't people understand that? Stupidity is like cancer. If you are vaccinated you will get covid if you don't take precautions. If you are not vaccinated you will get covid if you don't take precautions. Do you need me to tell you what those precautions are? Simple, if you touch something other people have touch sanitize your hands before you touch your face. Stay clear of people at least 3 feet. If someone is sneezing or coughing near you if they are not wearing a mask a mask will help you as droplets can travel a couple feet. This is not an airborne virus so it's not flying around. However, it transfers just like the flu does.
Choices and Consequences. If they don't know why themselves, what we going to do? Can make all the mandates, policies, etc. , but no can force them; they question everything because they born liddat (it's in their DNA).
Pretty soon got to fill Aloha Stadium with the frozen cadaver containers. The future unvaccinated tenants just hollow; only about "me, my, I, mine. ".
I really don't understand why people need to gas light the issue of being vaccinated or not. Look at Oscar De La Hoya, fully vaccinated and in the hospital with Covid. You will get Covid whether your vaccinated or not!, why can't people understand that? Stupidity is like cancer. If you are vaccinated you will get covid if you don't take precautions. If you are not vaccinated you will get covid if you don't take precautions. Do you need me to tell you what those precautions are? Simple, if you touch something other people have touch sanitize your hands before you touch your face. Stay clear of people at least 3 feet. If someone is sneezing or coughing near you if they are not wearing a mask a mask will help you as droplets can travel a couple feet. This is not an airborne virus so it's not flying around. However, it transfers just like the flu does.Does this answer your question (s)? I rest my case.
There is a way you guys can prove everyone wrong think about this. You all think by getting vaccine it won't help save lives. Right now look at the numbers ok this is how you prove them wrong get Vaccinated and let's see what happens with the numbers if numbers continue to be high and people still dying all you unvaccinated will be right.
I've asked residents and those touring through before making appointments and many have NOT been. So although they may have tested negative up to 72 hr in advance (touring), they likely did NOT do a pre-quarantine since their last test before arriving here to see us (you, me, others) and thus may be a vector for more Covid spread to whoever comes in close contact.
If clients are not vaccinated then they can become quite ill; and for both un-vax'd & vax'd (to a lesser extent) they can further spread the virus (esp Delta) to their extended circle of family, friends and cohorts.
My non-vax'd sister caught CV-19; spread it to my family & others; now my Dad's passed without family being able to see him and Sis, Mom & bro suffering from long term effects. Sis is a pariah in her circle while being guilty of death and sickness. So if that happens, are these non-vax non-precaution believers still going to hold onto their reasons for not taking preventative measures against such a highly transmissible virus that can result in a miserable death in a quarantine ward?
Will you ask the question of your partner to the point of asking for proof? (Peeps lie.).
After having intimate contact with someone you know is seeing lots of others in similar close circumstances, are you getting tested 2-3 days after and self isolating 5 days if vax'd and 10 days if not?
Be safe, healthy, and alive so you can play another day!
Be safe, healthy, and alive so you can play another day!Condolences on your brave and candid depiction of personal sadness and reality. While unfairly treated as a pariah, your mother's inner strength is needed and shall prevail past the naysayers. Take care.
ReallyOldGuy
09-04-21, 02:28
Taking the shots is not like flipping a light switch, they don't give protection.
Instantaneously. From what I remember full protection is given 2 weeks after the second shot. Even then it is not 100% immunity.
Some people could get the first shot today and get covid tomorrow. Some people would blame getting covid from taking the shot.
Rog is waiting to get the booster shot.
Get the shots and stay safer. The wise once said, "live long and prosper. " rog.
CDC protocol and money-hungry hospitals are killing patients with Covid. Watch this video of a lady's first-hand experience when she admitted her husband who contracted pneumonia to the hospital:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KID0h5qtoYxM/
CDC protocol and money-hungry hospitals are killing patients with Covid. Watch this video of a lady's first-hand experience when she admitted her husband who contracted pneumonia to the hospital:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KID0h5qtoYxM/I would not believe any hearsay that does not come with solid data and with professionals.
10 to 15 days from now we should see a jump in Cv-19 cases if people did not listen to avoid gatherings. But Hawaii's culture is to picnic or gather at Mom and dad's home for Holidays and Football games with pot luck lunch and or dinner. I'm looking out my Lanai and see so many vehicles on the road and can hear Motorcycles and or vehicles racing around the streets. Stay safe guys and mask up.
Prudential808
09-05-21, 10:58
10 to 15 days from now we should see a jump in Cv-19 cases if people did not listen to avoid gatherings. But Hawaii's culture is to picnic or gather at Mom and dad's home for Holidays and Football games with pot luck lunch and or dinner. I'm looking out my Lanai and see so many vehicles on the road and can hear Motorcycles and or vehicles racing around the streets. Stay safe guys and mask up.Sure we put mask and no liquid exchange with well known bb stars. Right?
I don't blame young guys' date with gfs and friends meeting either.
PriceIsRight39
09-05-21, 12:56
I would not believe any hearsay that does not come with solid data and with professionals.Like Fauci? LOL.
PriceIsRight39
09-05-21, 12:59
Taking the shots is not like flipping a light switch, they don't give protection.
Instantaneously. From what I remember full protection is given 2 weeks after the second shot. Even then it is not 100% immunity.
Some people could get the first shot today and get covid tomorrow. Some people would blame getting covid from taking the shot.
Rog is waiting to get the booster shot.
Get the shots and stay safer. The wise once said, "live long and prosper. " rog.Oscar De La Hoya got both shots, now in the hospital with the Rona. Vax I'm sure had nothing to do with it. Must be he underlying health condition because the shot is " safe and effective" LOL. Lost a co worker last week to Rona. Double vaxed. I'm sure it's not the vax though. I'll keep telling myself that until I find " data " that proves me right. LOL.
PriceIsRight39
09-05-21, 13:07
I've asked residents and those touring through before making appointments and many have NOT been. So although they may have tested negative up to 72 hr in advance (touring), they likely did NOT do a pre-quarantine since their last test before arriving here to see us (you, me, others) and thus may be a vector for more Covid spread to whoever comes in close contact.
If clients are not vaccinated then they can become quite ill; and for both un-vax'd & vax'd (to a lesser extent) they can further spread the virus (esp Delta) to their extended circle of family, friends and cohorts.
My non-vax'd sister caught CV-19; spread it to my family & others; now my Dad's passed without family being able to see him and Sis, Mom & bro suffering from long term effects. Sis is a pariah in her circle while being guilty of death and sickness. So if that happens, are these non-vax non-precaution believers still going to hold onto their reasons for not taking preventative measures against such a highly transmissible virus that can result in a miserable death in a quarantine ward?
Will you ask the question of your partner to the point of asking for proof? (Peeps lie.).
After having intimate contact with someone you know is seeing lots of others in similar close circumstances, are you getting tested 2-3 days after and self isolating 5 days if vax'd and 10 days if not?
Be safe, healthy, and alive so you can play another day!I mongered full time during Rona (ok I took two weeks off actually) and not a sniffle. I could care less who is vaxed or not!! I'm mid 50's, fit vitamin D at 76/ ml. It's not that I'm healthy though because Fauci says that doesn't help. LOL.
Wake up!!
I'm done commenting.
PriceIsRight39
09-05-21, 13:34
I really don't understand why people need to gas light the issue of being vaccinated or not. Look at Oscar De La Hoya, fully vaccinated and in the hospital with Covid. You will get Covid whether your vaccinated or not!, why can't people understand that? Stupidity is like cancer. If you are vaccinated you will get covid if you don't take precautions. If you are not vaccinated you will get covid if you don't take precautions. Do you need me to tell you what those precautions are? Simple, if you touch something other people have touch sanitize your hands before you touch your face. Stay clear of people at least 3 feet. If someone is sneezing or coughing near you if they are not wearing a mask a mask will help you as droplets can travel a couple feet. This is not an airborne virus so it's not flying around. However, it transfers just like the flu does.COVID is super aerosolized and cdc (a joke now) published that it doesn't transmit via fomites (that's touching surfaces for the cnn viewers). Although it is found in shit! Ones have washing us as important as ever due to the risk of poke through!! LOL. But yes, a cloth face diaper stops the micro mini AEROSOLIZED virus as evidenced by only the red states having increased covid. Of course. LOL. Psst cnn leaves out the blue states with their absolute love of face diapers and the EXPLOSION of Rona! Stop listening to liberals! They have no more credibility. Trust me, I used to be one. LOL.
It's not a liberal or conservative issue (it became one after our fascist dictator blamed his failed campaign on it, which led to white nationalists and cultists storming our capital), it's a public health issue. And the face diaper has saved thousands of livesnot everyone, but many.
YogiBear007
09-05-21, 22:50
Oscar De La Hoya got both shots, now in the hospital with the Rona. Vax I'm sure had nothing to do with it. Must be he underlying health condition because the shot is " safe and effective" LOL. Lost a co worker last week to Rona. Double vaxed. I'm sure it's not the vax though. I'll keep telling myself that until I find " data " that proves me right. LOL.Even you are vaxed and have underlying health issues you still going to be hospitalized and most likely die (knock on wood).
It's not a liberal or conservative issue (it became one after our fascist dictator blamed his failed campaign on it, which led to white nationalists and cultists storming our capital), it's a public health issue. And the face diaper has saved thousands of livesnot everyone, but many.Wasn't able to edit this post and delete the political inferences (I will stand by the face diaper comment, however). Carry on, ladies and gentlemen.
If you are one of the people refusing the vaccinations, can you give me your reasons for NOT getting vaccinated to help me understand your point of view. A guy I know just attended the funeral of his 27 year old friend last week who died due to catching covid. When my friend asked him why he did not get vaccinated, all he was told was that he would rather die than get vaccinated. No other reason was given. The guy got his wish and it is so sad.From the beginning something about this didn't smell right. Test positive, told go home and hope to get better. Don't go to the hospital until things are almost life threatening. Never has there been any mention of treatments in between those 2 extremes. Wasn't the case with Swine Flu (70's), SARS, Bird Flu, H1 N1. Research Dr. Peter McCullough and his work with actual patients in Texas, as opposed to a bureaucrat doctor that hasn't treated a patient in at least 30-40 years. And just how many COVID deaths were really from COVID? Remember the motorcycle accident ruled COVID. Or the gunshot victim? Bulk up the numbers to keep the fear alive. And don't forget to push the face diapers so no one will forget we have a crisis on our hands.
Media blackout / misinformation on any possible treatments. Fakebook / Twatter actively censoring information that goes against the company line. What happened to the free exchange of ideas? Disagree with me? Great, support your position and try and change my mind. But to say "I'm right and you're wrong" without supporting evidence, well that's just lazy adherence to a belief system. Shutting down discussion is for when you don't have a winning argument but don't want the truth to be heard. I personally know of 3 people at work that tested positive and took ivermectin. All 3 felt better within 24 hours and were back to work after a 2 week quarantine. Anecdotal? Absolutely! But is it reasonable to think more research is warranted? Not according to FB / Twatter / Network News.
This shot is not a vaccine, by definition. Rushed to market. In fact we are still the clinical trail stage now. FDA approval? Don't get me started, follow the money. Those that are pushing this jab are invested in it's financial success / failure. At this time, mRNA is still new technology. Maybe in 10 years we will know about any possible long term negative effects. Remember the Swine Flu shot was pulled after only 50 shot related deaths. VAERS reports much more than that for this shot. Remember the J&J being "pulled"? Think Pfiser had a hand in that? Your competition has a product that only requires 1 visit instead of 2. Which one will most consumers prefer?
Finally, why is getting the jab the only alternative? What about natural immunity, which can be confirmed with an antibody test? We used to have chickenpox parties before there was a shot for it. Bet I am still safe from chickenpox. No, you must submit to a medical procedure with a drug that is authorized under EUA, nothing else will be accepted. And if you don't submit, it could cost you your job. All for an illness with a 99.8+% recovery rate. But listening to a lot of people, you would think this was Ebola or Black Death.
In answer to the original question: I don't trust the government, social media, or the news to have MY best interests first and foremost. Good ideas do NOT require force. Bad ideas on the other hand.
FleshPrince
09-06-21, 05:42
Oscar De La Hoya got both shots, now in the hospital with the Rona. Vax I'm sure had nothing to do with it. Must be he underlying health condition because the shot is " safe and effective" LOL. Lost a co worker last week to Rona. Double vaxed. I'm sure it's not the vax though. I'll keep telling myself that until I find " data " that proves me right. LOL.Please carry on with your current modus operandi. And report in 3 months on your health status. But please don't let up on your anti-vax preaching and your rebelling against any health protocol guidances and follow your own advice incessantly, without any waver. Also don't stop your illegal private gatherings. If you are able to report that you have no covid symptoms after 3 more months of your strict adherence to your own preaching with no precautions, then I willl join your efforts to educate the public that you've been right all along and the govt sucks in trying to prevent covid from becoming a bigger health problem. However if I don't hear from you in 3 months then good luck.
Sharing a ventilator with 3 others might be coming to an end soon.
If you are the weakest link you'll be pulled and an individual with a better chance of survival will take your spot.
I know there's lots of scuba tanks available.
Get yours now.
The gov has signed an order (this past Wednesday) giving medical facilities immunity from liability and protection if they "ration care. " They stay at almost one point of moving to one "crisis standards of care. " Once the legals are amended, it is indicative of the situation stay getting worser during this COVID surge. For all you LOL guys, this not going be LOL for youse guys, trust me. Good luck to all.
Darkman808
09-06-21, 22:53
From the beginning something about this didn't smell right. Test positive, told go home and hope to get better. Don't go to the hospital until things are almost life threatening. Never has there been any mention of treatments in between those 2 extremes. Wasn't the case with Swine Flu (70's), SARS, Bird Flu, H1 N1. Research Dr. Peter McCullough and his work with actual patients in Texas, as opposed to a bureaucrat doctor that hasn't treated a patient in at least 30-40 years. And just how many COVID deaths were really from COVID? Remember the motorcycle accident ruled COVID. Or the gunshot victim? Bulk up the numbers to keep the fear alive. And don't forget to push the face diapers so no one will forget we have a crisis on our hands.Thank you.
I refuse to be a sheep.
I don't trust govt at all.
I'm not a doctor or scientist. But I'm smart enough to know how to go and do my own research on the internet and find ample factual and documented information from scientists, practicing doctors, epidemiologists that know far and away more than I ever will, who counsel against taking this COVID shot.
Yes. It is NOT a vaccine, even though people call it that.
If Hawaii and Americans would would only look to where others are today, far ahead of us, they would learn the errors of our current path. The nation of Israel has the highest percentage of vaxed citizens on the planet. But the vast majority of hospitalized COVID patients are vaccinated.
Wow!?
What gives?
Israel is poised to start administering the Fourth booster shot. Because the original shot is a failure.
Why should anybody take any drug that does not work? Doesn't stop the spread? Doesn't prevent you from getting sick? What's the point?
I've gotten every true vaccine my entire adult life for work and recreation. I also get the flu shot each year. They are all proven drugs and safe. I'm Not an anti-vaxer.
This COVID shot is for ignorant sheep. With more and more transmission everyday, while even more and more people are getting the jab, Josh Green wants people to believe the dwindling number of unvaccinated citizens are causing the dramatic rise in cases.
How stupid does one have to be to actually believe his crap?
Vaccinated people carry a higher bacterial load than unvaccinated people. The Delta variant is being spread by the vast majority of sheep that are running around thinking the are Superman. Invincible!
It never ceases to amaze me how gullible people can be listening to the likes of Josh Green and other gov't worker flunkies. These are the same people that run the DMV and are currently building our future train, HART.
And you want to trust their judgement as being good?
Not me.
Its been 18 months of scramble, and covid is still in charge. That is the only thing I know for certain. Covid makes leaders looks like idiots, is amplified by social media and full of fake news. And brings out the worse in posers like the LG who now disagrees with everything the Governor says--political posturing. Covid divides people, disrupts nations, causes fear, uncertainty and death. It is the ultimate terrorist.
Agree to disagree, shot or no shot, and focus on the common foe--Covid. Its time to let natural selection take its course and have Covid chose who survives, who dies. I say stop trying to get vaccinations already, and let it play out for the next 3-6 months. Enough of this could have should have shit. How do we beat Covid? That's what I want to know.
Its been 18 months of scramble, and covid is still in charge. That is the only thing I know for certain. Covid makes leaders looks like idiots, is amplified by social media and full of fake news. And brings out the worse in posers like the LG who now disagrees with everything the Governor says--political posturing. Covid divides people, disrupts nations, causes fear, uncertainty and death. It is the ultimate terrorist.
Agree to disagree, shot or no shot, and focus on the common foe--Covid. Its time to let natural selection take its course and have Covid chose who survives, who dies. I say stop trying to get vaccinations already, and let it play out for the next 3-6 months. Enough of this could have should have shit. How do we beat Covid? That's what I want to know.I agree. I hope covid gets you go real good LL.
Thank you.
I refuse to be a sheep.
I don't trust govt at all.
I'm not a doctor or scientist. But I'm smart enough to know how to go and do my own research on the internet and find ample factual and documented information from scientists, practicing doctors, epidemiologists that know far and away more than I ever will, who counsel against taking this COVID shot.
Yes. It is NOT a vaccine, even though people call it that.
If Hawaii and Americans would would only look to where others are today, far ahead of us, they would learn the errors of our current path. The nation of Israel has the highest percentage of vaxed citizens on the planet. But the vast majority of hospitalized COVID patients are vaccinated.
Wow!?
What gives?
Israel is poised to start administering the Fourth booster shot. Because the original shot is a failure.
Why should anybody take any drug that does not work? Doesn't stop the spread? Doesn't prevent you from getting sick? What's the point?Again I ask the same question and funny how absolutely nobody that's complaining answered. What would you or the people your listening too suggest to fix this covid problem? Everyone one here see what everyone saying take vaccine or don't take vaccine but what I like see is what is your solution of how to fix this? Bottom line whether they right or wrong the Gov Mayor trying to save lives which is BTW part of there jobs so tell us for those who don't like it what is your solution? Don't take vaccine let everyone stay as is and let people die? As a public officials they not going to let that happen and take heat from other people.
Again I ask the same question and funny how absolutely nobody that's complaining answered. What would you or the people your listening too suggest to fix this covid problem? Everyone one here see what everyone saying take vaccine or don't take vaccine but what I like see is what is your solution of how to fix this? Bottom line whether they right or wrong the Gov Mayor trying to save lives which is BTW part of there jobs so tell us for those who don't like it what is your solution? Don't take vaccine let everyone stay as is and let people die? As a public officials they not going to let that happen and take heat from other people.No easy answer for this one. Our govt is only following what other states / countries have done. We'll be experiencing our 3rd and 4th surges next year unless things change. One thing I would bring back would be testing for all incoming travelers, vaxed or not. You still going to spread the virus so why aren't we testing?
Again I ask the same question and funny how absolutely nobody that's complaining answered. What would you or the people your listening too suggest to fix this covid problem? Everyone one here see what everyone saying take vaccine or don't take vaccine but what I like see is what is your solution of how to fix this? Bottom line whether they right or wrong the Gov Mayor trying to save lives which is BTW part of there jobs so tell us for those who don't like it what is your solution? Don't take vaccine let everyone stay as is and let people die? As a public officials they not going to let that happen and take heat from other people.They say they no like vaccine because they skaid no know what the vaccine made of but: (1) they take Novocaine for numb the pain for dentist (what stay inside Novocaine?); (2) they take acetaminophens for pain (what stay inside Tylenol?); (3) take the aspirin, ibuprofens, codeine, cortisol, etc. (what stay made of?); (4) go surgery and take anesthetics (what made of, that one?). The vaccine stay FDA approved, just like the others. What the next excuse (s)?
This COVID shat supposed to be over with one year ago, already, if everybody when take the vaccine (just like measles, chickenpox, etc.). Tired of this crup.
They say they no like vaccine because they skaid no know what the vaccine made of but: (1) they take Novocaine for numb the pain for dentist (what stay inside Novocaine?); (2) they take acetaminophens for pain (what stay inside Tylenol?); (3) take the aspirin, ibuprofens, codeine, cortisol, etc. (what stay made of?); (4) go surgery and take anesthetics (what made of, that one?). The vaccine stay FDA approved, just like the others. What the next excuse (s)?This COVID shat supposed to be over with one year ago, already, if everybody when take the vaccine (just like measles, chickenpox, etc.). Tired of this crup.Nah keep in mind everyone should have there own choice but what irrates me is these guys who complain about Gov and Mayor making decisions that they don't like but don't Come up with a solution? It's so easy to say shit but if you were in there position what would you do because if you honest with yourself you be doing the same dam thing trying to protect your State of Hawaii and if not you will have people come down on you hard and probably being voted out next election.
No easy answer for this one. Our govt is only following what other states / countries have done. We'll be experiencing our 3rd and 4th surges next year unless things change. One thing I would bring back would be testing for all incoming travelers, vaxed or not. You still going to spread the virus so why aren't we testing?Yes I agree there is no easy answer but as everyone who comes on here can see all these guys that like complain and call people who making decisions dumb stupid. I like know what would they do which BTW tells me since no one coming up with solutions they only here to complain. These people are like some of the people I work with management makes a decision but because they don't like it they file grieve and I'm a union guy and don't agree with these complainers. And they reason I don't agree with these complainer is they complain but when asked do you have a better way to do this they don't have an answer.
GreenTrees
09-08-21, 23:31
To DaViper, if I ruled Hawaii, I would shut down all travel in and out. Got to isolate. Just like how Hawaii was isolated for so long that when the westerners brought Influenza, the natives were decimated because their immune systems were never exposed to Influenza prior to western contact. Each island would have to isolate as well. We need to factor in asymptomatic carriers as well. If it is such that even Vaccinated people can be carriers, even more so, we would have to isolate populations / islands. If the stay time for C-vid can be as long as 20 days for those that are infected, a quarantine of 30-40 days should suffice. We were once close, and then we opened back up, and then the numbers went back up. Did we not reach a point of 1% and below? What would 2-3 more weeks of lock-down have really costed us as a state?
So, first step isolate. Next step, test. State misallocated funds by buying one useless robodog, and has anyone seen the new state vehicles, the Tesla SUV's? All that money could be spent on tests. Why the phuck does general population have to take tests that go to a lab for results? I heard of a whole school bus being turned around because a student popped hot of the daily covid test -- I think they use the spit test. Some people have seen many people take the swab test and get their results within 5-15 minutes, no lab to process it. So, isolate the islands, and provide enough rapid tests for people to take a test every other day. If it's a shut down for 30 days, 15 tests each. If it's a shutdown for 40 days, 20 tests each. As long as people can travel in and out of the state, it will never be sanitized.
But any offer of a solution is moot. With the way the military cycles in and out on a monthly basis, you never going to stop it. Bases are on sovereign soil, commands do not have to divulge data because opsec. General population lives in one realm while the people inside the gates operate in a different realm.
But for the other folks.
Afghanistan: pop= 38 M. CoV cases= 154 k. CoV deaths= 7144. Total mort rate= 0. 0188% coV mort= 4. 638961%.
Russia: pop= 144.4 M. CoV cases= 6. 95 M. CoV deaths= 185 k. Total mort rate= 0. 12842722% coV mort= 2. 661871%.
And Korea: pop=25.67 M. CoV cases= 219 M. CoV deaths= 4. 55 M. Total mort rate= 18% coV mort= 2. 077626%.
Turkey: pop= 82 M. CoV cases= 6. 54 M. CoV deaths= 58,651. Total mort rate= 0. 07153293% coV mort= 0. 8968043%.
Mexico: pop= 127.6 M. CoV cases= 3. 45 M. CoV deaths= 265 k. Total mort rate= 0. 2086614% coV mort= 7. 681159%.
Columbia: pop= 50.34 M. CoV cases= 4. 92 M. CoV deaths= 125 k. Total mort rate= 0. 25% coV mort= 2. 54065%.
Ununited States: pop= 328.2 M. CoV cases= 40.5 M. CoV deaths= 652 k. Total mort rate= 0. 1986594% coV mort= 1. 609877%.
Hawaii: pop= 1. 416 M. CoV cases= 66,554. CoV deaths= 623. Total mort rate= 0. 04399718% coV mort= 0. 936082%.
CDC stats:
2017 Influenza: 637 Cancer: 2456 Heart disease: 2575.
2016 Influenza: 507 Cancer: 2401 Heart disease: 2488.
2015 Influenza: 557 Cancer: 2462 Heart disease: 2605.
2014 Influenza: 438 Cancer: 2493 Heart disease: 2528.
So if only 623 deaths in Hawaii attributed to c-vid for almost 2 years, and let's say 0 deaths due to Influenza for the past 2 years, C-vid is really not that bad. 623 divided by 2 is 311.5 so let's just say 310.310 per year is still better than any of the 3's posted by the CDC. From the numbers, looks like Cancer and Heart Disease is more of a pandemic than this Rona. You know they got cures for cancer and heart disease but big farma makes too much money off of prescriptions. Me 40+ and take no prescriptions, not a fan of big farma.
We really need vaccines for Cancer and Heart Disease. From my g00 gle research on numbers, those 2 kill a lot more people than Rona. Better hope that mRNA jab doesn't lead to Auto Immune Disease.
By the way, anyone notice that the 2 top people from the FDA resigned after the vax was approved? Ever wonder what their reason was? And it's funny how the head of Pfizer could not travel to a foreign country because he is not vax'd. Jokes on all of us.
Darkman808
09-09-21, 01:46
Again I ask the same question and funny how absolutely nobody that's complaining answered. What would you or the people your listening too suggest to fix this covid problem? Everyone one here see what everyone saying take vaccine or don't take vaccine but what I like see is what is your solution of how to fix this? Bottom line whether they right or wrong the Gov Mayor trying to save lives which is BTW part of there jobs so tell us for those who don't like it what is your solution? Don't take vaccine let everyone stay as is and let people die? As a public officials they not going to let that happen and take heat from other people.More people die from the flu each year, before COVID. How many people are dying from the flu now? You don't know? Why is that?
The statistics show that the vast majority of people will survive the COVID, like 99.6% of the general population. Even those who catch the COVID, can be treated given the knowledge doctors have today.
Most of the people who are in the hospital, are there for a variety of other medical issues (pre-existing or not) and they also happen to have COVID. So it isn't truly a case of people dropping dead everywhere BECAUSE of COVID. So your question requires context.
The solution? Do what Sweden did. Nothing basically. Yes, they had people die. But NOT a statistically higher amount than anywhere else by population proportion, compared to countries that "locked down" and freaked out. Sweden did NOT lock down and go into a panic. They lived their lives normally. At work, school, and socially. Get herd immunity quickly by letting the virus run its course through the population entirely. The normal thing.
Take prophylactics and drugs that slow or prevent COVID. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine are accepted drugs elsewhere. Not in the USA, because Pharmaceutical Corporations don't make billions of dollars on inexpensive drugs readily available for decades that have been proven safe. Please don't believe the crap about this "deworming" drug killing people. Long since proven that story was an outright lie.
Those who are susceptible to immune deficiency issues, or are sick, or elderly, or any other category of people prone to being very ill; THEY should be self quarantined and monitor their own situation. At no time in history have we ever quarantined perfectly healthy people. Who does that? It will never end?! Let people live their lives normally, accept the deaths as they come. They will not be anymore 'extra-deaths' (statistically higher amounts more than normal).
Today they are now announcing the next variant. The new "mu" variant. You see how that works? It will never end. It will always be something new, some NEXT variant. They will continue to proclaim that there is yet ANOTHER REASON to control people and keep them down, to spoon feed you all that you need to know and to depend upon the government to feed you and care for you.
Nobody in life gets out of this alive. We're all going to die at some point. Some earlier than later. I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees. I will never allow some ignorant twat like Ige or Green to tell me how to live my life in accordance with their ridiculous rules for sheep.
My solution? Leave us alone. Take the good with the bad. Those who are worried about COVID, stay home and live in your closet. Order delivery. Don't go to work. But the rest of us will live our lives like normal human beings.
The vast majority of Americans across the US are living normal lives without masks on, their kids are going to school while parents go to work like normal everyday people. Sadly, in Hawaii we are not. The local media and politicians want everyone here to believe what Ige and Green are serving up, THAT is normal. It isn't. But what people in Hawaii are suffering more from is fear and loathing, served up in ample quantities by our politicians and lap dog media.
I would expect nothing less.
More people die from the flu each year, before COVID. How many people are dying from the flu now? You don't know? Why is that?
The statistics show that the vast majority of people will survive the COVID, like 99.6% of the general population. Even those who catch the COVID, can be treated given the knowledge doctors have today.
Most of the people who are in the hospital, are there for a variety of other medical issues (pre-existing or not) and they also happen to have COVID. So it isn't truly a case of people dropping dead everywhere BECAUSE of COVID. So your question requires context.
The solution? Do what Sweden did. Nothing basically. Yes, they had people die. But NOT a statistically higher amount than anywhere else by population proportion, compared to countries that "locked down" and freaked out. Sweden did NOT lock down and go into a panic. They lived their lives normally. At work, school, and socially. Get herd immunity quickly by letting the virus run its course through the population entirely. The normal thing.
Take prophylactics and drugs that slow or prevent COVID. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine are accepted drugs elsewhere. Not in the USA, because Pharmaceutical Corporations don't make billions of dollars on inexpensive drugs readily available for decades that have been proven safe. Please don't believe the crap about this "deworming" drug killing people. Long since proven that story was an outright lie.
Those who are susceptible to immune deficiency issues, or are sick, or elderly, or any other category of people prone to being very ill; THEY should be self quarantined and monitor their own situation. At no time in history have we ever quarantined perfectly healthy people. Who does that? It will never end?! Let people live their lives normally, accept the deaths as they come. They will not be anymore 'extra-deaths' (statistically higher amounts more than normal).It that to say even if the had pre-conditions they would have died now if they didn't get Covid? A lot of people have pre-existing conditions and live a normal life. Yes it does mean that they are a greater risk of death but yes they do die because they caught COVID.
More people die from the flu each year, before COVID. How many people are dying from the flu now? You don't know? Why is that?
The statistics show that the vast majority of people will survive the COVID, like 99.6% of the general population. Even those who catch the COVID, can be treated given the knowledge doctors have today.
Most of the people who are in the hospital, are there for a variety of other medical issues (pre-existing or not) and they also happen to have COVID. So it isn't truly a case of people dropping dead everywhere BECAUSE of COVID. So your question requires context.
The solution? Do what Sweden did. Nothing basically. Yes, they had people die. But NOT a statistically higher amount than anywhere else by population proportion, compared to countries that "locked down" and freaked out. Sweden did NOT lock down and go into a panic. They lived their lives normally. At work, school, and socially. Get herd immunity quickly by letting the virus run its course through the population entirely. The normal thing.
Take prophylactics and drugs that slow or prevent COVID. Ivermectin and Hydroxychloriquine are accepted drugs elsewhere. Not in the USA, because Pharmaceutical Corporations don't make billions of dollars on inexpensive drugs readily available for decades that have been proven safe. Please don't believe the crap about this "deworming" drug killing people. Long since proven that story was an outright lie.Ok so you don't see any problem going on? Everything is the way it use to be people dying like normal? Everyone not only in Hawaii but the world over reacting to this made up name called Covid? All the hospitals are the way it use to be they just making up all these story's to keep people in there hses. All the morgs are the way they use to be filled with dead bodies where NY and other places including here using trailers to hold bodies. So right now Everything is normal except every one over reacting to this thing someone made up called Covid? Alright happy you responded ill let others respond to you if they like.
Biden requiring 100+ employee business to test. Or vaccinate all employees. Non compliant will be put on leave. If you are all in. And believe the vaccine is. Fake and. The pandemic is fake, refuse the test and the vaccine. And go all in I support you 100%. Don't be like Kaperdick and still get money. From. Endorsements and donations poser commitment. Be like Ali and put it all on the line, risk everything for what you believe. Its your rights and that is not fake news. If all of he 48% non vaccinate stay together and call bullshit, that will change. Biden's mind and cause global reform guaranteed. Let it. Play. Out. And see. Good luck.
Bestest thing to happen for Hawaii all unvaccinated can quit their jobs and go work for all the thousands. Of. Small businesses here who need employees. Winnahs for. Small business. Biden just did us all a big favour our economy going. Explode upwards while rest of. The world. Going tank. All of the politically controlled. Big business who been screwing us since forever going get screwed finally close up go back mainland and leave us alone. We need Slippah. House to come back Walmart, Costco go home we don't want or need you here. With. Covid now fully exposed, none of the unvaxed need to. Go doctor of hospitals they take care. Of themselves at their home it will go away. In a day or two. No hospital or doctor crowding, small business thriving these folks are really smart. No need vaccinate, quit work, close all big businesses, plenty jobs at small businesses, no go doctor or hospital. All good, all good. Let it play out and see.
Ok so you don't see any problem going on? Everything is the way it use to be people dying like normal? Everyone not only in Hawaii but the world over reacting to this made up name called Covid? All the hospitals are the way it use to be they just making up all these story's to keep people in there hses. All the morgs are the way they use to be filled with dead bodies where NY and other places including here using trailers to hold bodies. So right now Everything is normal except every one over reacting to this thing someone made up called Covid? Alright happy you responded ill let others respond to you if they like.You are correct. The majority of anti vaxers are repeating conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory, Its only another jab of which they probably have had many. If it works and indications are it helps great , if it doesn't work oh well. They are blinded by propaganda and social media BS. I see said the blind man as he sawed off his leg.
Problem is you can try to help stupid but you can't fix it.
You are correct. The majority of anti vaxers are repeating conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory, Its only another jab of which they probably have had many. If it works and indications are it helps great , if it doesn't work oh well. They are blinded by propaganda and social media BS. I see said the blind man as he sawed off his leg.
Problem is you can try to help stupid but you can't fix it.Fist off, most of us who don't want this test vaccine have had every other vaccines available plus others that most of you haven't. Get your anthrax series yet? Secondly, it's funny how people who swallow corporate media blindly and ignore anyone outside of the realm of their narrative see opossing views as conspiracy theories. Joe Rogan gets covid, is PRESCRIBED ivermectin and other theroputics, which makes him recover in a day, and CNN announced that he took horse dewormer. The corporate media echoes the horseshit and the feeble minded swallow it. Ivermectin gets a Nobel prize for positive use in other ailments in 2015. But, it's horse dewormer to those that keep the CNN dongle deep in their throat. Your POS govener and mayor use case increases of "Covid " to justify his vaccine passport shit. I took my SO in for a test we both got the rt pcr test, the one that looses its emergency use authorization December 2021,it was the first to be used December 2020. Mine said not detected, hers said detected. This test does not differentiate between covid or Influenza, "indicative of active infection but do not rule out bacterial infection or other viral infections. " Right on the sheet. I called Hawaii department of heath and asked, so, if it's just the flu, it's still counted as covid? Her response, "THAT'S CORRECT ". So, now you know how case counts have gone up and Influenza has pretty much disappeared. More case counts mean more federal $$ I'm leaving Hawaii for Texas. Enjoy your booster shots every six months, Pfizer loves you. 😉.
https://jeffreydachmd.com/2021/08/director-of-cdc-rochelle-walensky-warns-of-ade-antibody-dependent-enhancement-from-israel-data/
Good you moving, now post when you find the Happiness and Rejuve girls working there. No vaccine needed, no testing, no masks in Texas its the perfect shining example to show the rest of the world that COVID is a global hoax. Don't forget to post, the girls have been working all throughout the pandemic and will never return to Hawaii.
Fist off, most of us who don't want this test vaccine have had every other vaccines available plus others that most of you haven't. Get your anthrax series yet? Secondly, it's funny how people who swallow corporate media blindly and ignore anyone outside of the realm of their narrative see opossing views as conspiracy theories. Joe Rogan gets covid, is PRESCRIBED ivermectin and other theroputics, which makes him recover in a day, and CNN announced that he took horse dewormer. The corporate media echoes the horseshit and the feeble minded swallow it. Ivermectin gets a Nobel prize for positive use in other ailments in 2015. But, it's horse dewormer to those that keep the CNN dongle deep in their throat. Your POS govener and mayor use case increases of "Covid " to justify his vaccine passport shit. I took my SO in for a test we both got the rt pcr test, the one that looses its emergency use authorization December 2021,it was the first to be used December 2020. Mine said not detected, hers said detected. This test does not differentiate between covid or Influenza, "indicative of active infection but do not rule out bacterial infection or other viral infections. " Right on the sheet. I called Hawaii department of heath and asked, so, if it's just the flu, it's still counted as covid? Her response, "THAT'S CORRECT ". So, now you know how case counts have gone up and Influenza has pretty much disappeared. More case counts mean more federal $$ I'm leaving Hawaii for Texas. Enjoy your booster shots every six months, Pfizer loves you. 😉.
https://jeffreydachmd.com/2021/08/director-of-cdc-rochelle-walensky-warns-of-ade-antibody-dependent-enhancement-from-israel-data/
Good you moving, now post when you find the Happiness and Rejuve girls working there. No vaccine needed, no testing, no masks in Texas its the perfect shining example to show the rest of the world that COVID is a global hoax. Don't forget to post, the girls have been working all throughout the pandemic and will never return to Hawaii.Unless you believe it came from eating a bat. 😏That's what the ccp China fed and the CNN swallowing masses and they went with it. I will miss the Asian pussy I'm sure, however, my end state is relocating to Thailand. When their nanny state hopefully unfuck themselves. Nothing beats Thailand, unless you prefer pinay.
Fist off, most of us who don't want this test vaccine have had every other vaccines available plus others that most of you haven't. Get your anthrax series yet? Secondly, it's funny how people who swallow corporate media blindly and ignore anyone outside of the realm of their narrative see opossing views as conspiracy theories. Joe Rogan gets covid, is PRESCRIBED ivermectin and other theroputics, which makes him recover in a day, and CNN announced that he took horse dewormer. The corporate media echoes the horseshit and the feeble minded swallow it. Ivermectin gets a Nobel prize for positive use in other ailments in 2015. But, it's horse dewormer to those that keep the CNN dongle deep in their throat. Your POS govener and mayor use case increases of "Covid " to justify his vaccine passport shit. I took my SO in for a test we both got the rt pcr test, the one that looses its emergency use authorization December 2021,it was the first to be used December 2020. Mine said not detected, hers said detected. This test does not differentiate between covid or Influenza, "indicative of active infection but do not rule out bacterial infection or other viral infections. " Right on the sheet. I called Hawaii department of heath and asked, so, if it's just the flu, it's still counted as covid? Her response, "THAT'S CORRECT ". So, now you know how case counts have gone up and Influenza has pretty much disappeared. More case counts mean more federal $$ I'm leaving Hawaii for Texas. Enjoy your booster shots every six months, Pfizer loves you. 😉.
https://jeffreydachmd.com/2021/08/director-of-cdc-rochelle-walensky-warns-of-ade-antibody-dependent-enhancement-from-israel-data/So you were in the military and you took that anthrax vax why? Because it was mandated. Joe Rogan IS fake news. It is a horse dewormer among other things. Try it, I heard it works. I think you can get it at Waimanalo feed store. Until then you cannot smoke in a restaurant and now can't spew virus either unless you are vaccinated. I guess all those patients in the hospital have the flu. Gee I don't remember that in 2018 flu season. Have fun in Texass.
You guys got this all backwards, man. People with non-Covid life threatening illnesses in Florida, Texas and Alabama are willingly forfeiting their ICU reservations to the unvaccinated pro-Covid freedom fighting patriots because they too resent government overreach and CNN brainwashing, and anyway they must stand up for civil liberties and against Fauci, that hoax inspired communist, and against the DNA-altering vaccine with government-embedded geo-locating tracers. C'Mon.!
Good you moving, now post when you find the Happiness and Rejuve girls working there. No vaccine needed, no testing, no masks in Texas its the perfect shining example to show the rest of the world that COVID is a global hoax. Don't forget to post, the girls have been working all throughout the pandemic and will never return to Hawaii.I'm assuming you didn't check how many covid and death counts in Texas this made up name called Covid has caused?
Just tired arguing, now trying to see the other side. I no longer going provide the facts, simply waiting to see how. Many of the unvaccinated get sick and die, vs the vaccinated.
The terrorist COVID is regrouping into new cells, ready to launch its next round of attacks around the world. The. Needle not going move on unvaccinated, so 30% of the unvaccinated going get sick, 10% + going die. I would never support a terrorist, and this is exactly what the unvaccinated are doing, paying with their own lives, and lives. Of others. Shame.
I'm assuming you didn't check how many covid and death counts in Texas this made up name called Covid has caused?
Thumperforq
09-15-21, 03:01
Biden requiring 100+ employee business to test. Or vaccinate all employees. Non compliant will be put on leave. If you are all in. And believe the vaccine is. Fake and. The pandemic is fake, refuse the test and the vaccine. And go all in I support you 100%. Don't be like Kaperdick and still get money. From. Endorsements and donations poser commitment. Be like Ali and put it all on the line, risk everything for what you believe. Its your rights and that is not fake news. If all of he 48% non vaccinate stay together and call bullshit, that will change. Biden's mind and cause global reform guaranteed. Let it. Play. Out. And see. Good luck.No they won't many of us are skilled or hold the license for the company to operate. We leave, company shuts down. Better move would be to have everyone become a contractor, then you have 0 employees and get around the 100 employee requirement.
Competition is a good thing. This mandate is a hassle, sooner than later doing daily, weekly, testing going be a hassle and local people going quit. Companies going out of business, too bad tough luck.
Another big mainland business will come in and pick up the slack. The power of the Covid terrorist movement accelerate the the gentrification of Hawaii no more any local companies anymore. Thank you unvaccinated--you do so much more that ever imagined.
Clear as day to me.
No they won't many of us are skilled or hold the license for the company to operate. We leave, company shuts down. Better move would be to have everyone become a contractor, then you have 0 employees and get around the 100 employee requirement.
Just tired arguing, now trying to see the other side. I no longer going provide the facts, simply waiting to see how. Many of the unvaccinated get sick and die, vs the vaccinated.
The terrorist COVID is regrouping into new cells, ready to launch its next round of attacks around the world. The. Needle not going move on unvaccinated, so 30% of the unvaccinated going get sick, 10% + going die. I would never support a terrorist, and this is exactly what the unvaccinated are doing, paying with their own lives, and lives. Of others. Shame.No need assist, already. If the unvaccinated (170,000 pax) no care about the severe care for COVID ICU patients (intubation; tube up the rectum and down the esophagus) then whatevers. No need see things "the other side" because no more one nodda side in a public health pandemic; they get no rights because they contributing to the problems (at the expense of others) while the rest sacrifice for a solution to these problems. In the end, pay the" Dealer."
Thumperforq
09-15-21, 15:20
No need assist, already. If the unvaccinated (170,000 pax) no care about the severe care for COVID ICU patients (intubation; tube up the rectum and down the esophagus) then whatevers. No need see things "the other side" because no more one nodda side in a public health pandemic; they get no rights because they contributing to the problems (at the expense of others) while the rest sacrifice for a solution to these problems. In the end, pay the" Dealer."The vaccine is not curbing covid. Singapore is 81% vaccinated with Pfizer or Moderna and is experiencing a spike, which is overwhelming the medical system. Will not be effective until over 90% have the vaccine or prior infection. Prior infection showing to be 7 x more effective than the vaccine.
The vaccine is not curbing covid. Singapore is 81% vaccinated with Pfizer or Moderna and is experiencing a spike, which is overwhelming the medical system. Will not be effective until over 90% have the vaccine or prior infection. Prior infection showing to be 7 x more effective than the vaccine.This whole thing has been overblown for political reasons.
So do the math:
660 deaths over almost two years.
In a state with a total population of 1,250,000.
It is highly age stratified.
If you are young with no complications you are safe.
Just tired arguing, now trying to see the other side. I no longer going provide the facts, simply waiting to see how. Many of the unvaccinated get sick and die, vs the vaccinated.
The terrorist COVID is regrouping into new cells, ready to launch its next round of attacks around the world. The. Needle not going move on unvaccinated, so 30% of the unvaccinated going get sick, 10% + going die. I would never support a terrorist, and this is exactly what the unvaccinated are doing, paying with their own lives, and lives. Of others. Shame.If you are concerned with facts, you should realize these mRNA shots are not vaccines. They are therapeutics. Meaning they don't provide immunity (many so-called vaccinated have been infected). They simply lessen symptoms if you get sick. Natural T-cell immunity is 100 times better, which the universal shutdowns / mandates have weakened.
The vaccine is not curbing covid. Singapore is 81% vaccinated with Pfizer or Moderna and is experiencing a spike, which is overwhelming the medical system. Will not be effective until over 90% have the vaccine or prior infection. Prior infection showing to be 7 x more effective than the vaccine.These witty tools are well fed from corporate media. They got it all figured out. Isreal same. Majority vaccinated with majority cases and death spikes. Don't worry guys, keep getting your boosters 😉.
https://youtu.be/jVWB91wDm8k
This whole thing has been overblown for political reasons.
So do the math:
660 deaths over almost two years.
In a state with a total population of 1,250,000.
It is highly age stratified.
If you are young with no complications you are safe.You realize the lockdown slowed down the spread and helped out the hospitals which are now overloaded.
So its Ainokea if your young?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/alabama-couple-trashed-vaccines-youtube-155144869.html
Let them die, ainokea.
Say 10 wins.
Let them die, ainokea. Say 10 wins.Tired hearing all the lame proud boys, white supremacists, qanon, internet misinformation, conspiracy theorists, insurrectionists, disgruntled (fired) hires, quack mds, big lies, etc., bleachman words and phrases. Time to leave them behind to rid our nation of these ballyhoos that are unable to use evidence, citations, warrants, rebuttals, ethics, appeals and logic to render an intelligent argument. Sadly, we have to ainokea them and us guys imua for the betterment.
If you are concerned with facts, you should realize these mRNA shots are not vaccines. They are therapeutics. Meaning they don't provide immunity (many so-called vaccinated have been infected). They simply lessen symptoms if you get sick. Natural T-cell immunity is 100 times better, which the universal shutdowns / mandates have weakened.MRNA "shots" are vaccines; they protect against infectious diseases. MRNA vaccines teach our cells how to make a protein or even just a piece of a protein that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. The benefit of mRNA vaccines, like all vaccines, is those vaccinated gain protection without ever having to risk the serious consequences of getting sick with COVID-19. Prove me wrong. Or better yet, prove yourself right, as it relates to COVID 19.
Oh, you guyses go check on the "negative effects of instagram on mental health" study (for teens, regulars and teens-like mentalities) just came out recently; then maybe youse guys understand.
Mahalos for the education. Please don't take the vaccine, and for Christ sake, don't seek medical treatment for COVID. Fight the fake virus naturally, no drugs, no doctors because its fake news and your natural immunity is 100 X better. I personally support this 100%.
If you are concerned with facts, you should realize these mRNA shots are not vaccines. They are therapeutics. Meaning they don't provide immunity (many so-called vaccinated have been infected). They simply lessen symptoms if you get sick. Natural T-cell immunity is 100 times better, which the universal shutdowns / mandates have weakened.
This whole thing has been overblown for political reasons. It is highly age stratified. If you are young with no complications you are safe.This is one big, bad, boldface, harmful, pilau lie ("As Hawaii sees a rise in youth COVID cases, doctors and medical leaders say children under 12, who can't get vaccinated, are susceptible to the delta variant. The state Health Department reported that COVID cases among children 17 and under made up 17% of all infections in Hawaii (HNN, 09/10/2021)). " There are youth deaths nationwide (516 deaths, 0-18 yo, 09/15/2021, DATA. CDC. Gov).
This is one big, bad, boldface, harmful, pilau lie ("As Hawaii sees a rise in youth COVID cases, doctors and medical leaders say children under 12, who can't get vaccinated, are susceptible to the delta variant. The state Health Department reported that COVID cases among children 17 and under made up 17% of all infections in Hawaii (HNN, 09/10/2021)). " There are youth deaths nationwide (516 deaths, 0-18 yo, 09/15/2021, DATA. CDC. Gov).You are misinformed. Children are not, and have not, been statistically affected by COVID.
You're mistaking testing positive for the SARS-2 virus with actually being sick with COVID.
How many children without complications have been hospitalized with or died from COVID?
Look it up.
Overall, 660 people have died since the start out of a total state population of 1,250,000.
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MRNA "shots" are vaccines; they protect against infectious diseases. MRNA vaccines teach our cells how to make a protein or even just a piece of a protein that triggers an immune response inside our bodies. The benefit of mRNA vaccines, like all vaccines, is those vaccinated gain protection without ever having to risk the serious consequences of getting sick with COVID-19. Prove me wrong. Or better yet, prove yourself right, as it relates to COVID 19.
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The mRNA injections are a therapeutic. The company literature from Moderna and Pfizer even say it is not a vaccine.
You probably also think that these masks people stop the virus. Again, check the box they come in. Says clearly the mask do not protect against the SARS-2 virus.
SixtyNiner69
09-17-21, 21:48
I'm sick of covid-19. I'm sick of black vs white. I'm sick of democrats vs republican. I'm sick of gay vs straight. I'm sick of Christians vs atheist. I'm really sick of the media I'm sick of no one being allowed to think what they want and feel what they do without offending someone. I'm sick of the nosey ass people who call the cops when anyone does anything they don't approve of. I'm sick of blaming the whole for the sins of a few.
We're one race the human race. You want to support the vaccine? You do so. It's your choice you want to support the unvaccinated fine also your choice. You want to believe in god? Okay believe in god. You want believe in magical creatures that fly around and sprinkle fairy dust to make life better? Awesome you do you. But stop bullying and thrusting your beliefs on others and not being able to deal with the fact that everyone doesn't have the same mindset as you. Having our own minds is what makes us all individual and beautiful. If you can't handle the fact that you may have a friend that has opposing views as you, then you are not any better than the bigots and the racists. Not everyone has to agree with everything you believe in to be a decent human being. By the way I have friends covering all the above LOL stay safe fellow mongers.
Here is one explanation from an Israeli source:
"What they are being asked to inject is not a vaccine as defined by the CDC as "A product that stimulates a person's immune system to produce immunity to a specific disease. " (5) Rather, it is an experimental and novel technology. By definition of the FDA (6) as a component used as treatment to affect a body's function, it is in fact a medical device, a physical device that comes in a molecular sized package. ".
5. CDC Website, Vaccines & Immunizations, Immunization: The Basics accessed on the 12th January from https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm.
6. US Food and Drug Administration Website, Medical Device Overview, accessed on the 12th January from https://www.fda.gov/industry/regulated-products/medical-device-overview#What%20 is%20 a%20 medical%20 device.
A vaccine is designed to PREVENT infection.
The mRNA injection lessens symptoms IF you come down with the disease.
There are many other treatment options available if you come down with the COVID.
The mRNA injections are a therapeutic. The company literature from Moderna and Pfizer even say it is not a vaccine. You probably also think that these masks people stop the virus. Again, check the box they come in. Says clearly the mask do not protect against the SARS-2 virus.Take one pikcha and show (no buy cheap kine masks; buy the surgical or N95 one); show your credible evidence and citation(s). You know how?
You are misinformed. Children are not, and have not, been statistically affected by COVID. You're mistaking testing positive for the SARS-2 virus with actually being sick with COVID. How many children without complications have been hospitalized with or died from COVID? Look it up.You look it up and show your mistakes; show your credible evidence and citation(s). You mad?
https://www.yahoo.com/news/alabama-couple-trashed-vaccines-youtube-155144869.html
Let them die, ainokea.
Say 10 wins.Ok...Their body; their choice. Sad that it had to end this way for this young couple. RIP.
Meanwhile, anti-vaxxers continue to dominate the space at Queens. Their body; their choice.
Ok...Their body; their choice. Sad that it had to end this way for this young couple. RIP. Meanwhile, anti-vaxxers continue to dominate the space at Queens. Their body; their choice.Local epidemiological MD (Queen's Punchbowl) was attempting to provide an analysis on the mindset of an "antivaxxer (KITV, 09/17/2021). " His reply was one of confusion, disgust and disdain at antivaxxers because the vaccines (those approved by the FDA) have been, in paraphrasing his words, "marvelous, safe and effective as shown from data and clinical trials; I have provided formulae and made such vaccines in the past. ".
Back to the mindset of antivaxxers, he suggested that they have a strong need to be seen, heard, understood, successful and recognized; emotional needs that they are desperate to experience (but have never gotten). It all stems from birth, childhood and DNA, IMO.
Blackbriar
09-18-21, 12:48
https://www.sorryantivaxxer.com/
FUCK AKU BIRDS.
Ok...Their body; their choice. Sad that it had to end this way for this young couple. RIP.
Meanwhile, anti-vaxxers continue to dominate the space at Queens. Their body; their choice.I was just at Queens Hospital yesterday for a routine check up and asked the doctor how he felt about those anti-vaccinators filling up the critical ICU and bedspaces. He was hesitant at first and asked me, so I told him that these people had a choice to get the vaccine but choose not to and now what gives them the right to move to the front of the line and take up valuable bedspace while denying others who have no choice in this matter, but told to hold off on their scheduled appointments. He nodded in agreement, but can't voice his opinion because he has taken an oath to help all those in need of treatment regardless. Because COVID-19 is a bio-weapon, in the interest of public safety, I think all should be given the shots and those who still refuse, should sign a waiver forgoing treatment to take this burden off the hospital staff so they can psychologically be exempt from making this decision, which was already decided by the anti-vax people for refusing to take the shots. The governor has no balls neither are your coward politicians to take a lead in this matter.
5. CDC Website, Vaccines & Immunizations, Immunization: The Basics accessed on the 12th January from https://www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac-gen/imz-basics.htm.
6. US Food and Drug Administration Website, Medical Device Overview, accessed on the 12th January from https://www.fda.gov/industry/regulated-products/medical-device-overview#What%20 is%20 a%20 medical%20 device.
A vaccine is designed to PREVENT infection. The mRNA injection lessens symptoms IF you come down with the disease. There are many other treatment options available if you come down with the COVID.#5, Here it is: "Understanding mRNA COVID-19 Vaccines: mRNA vaccines are a new type of vaccine to protect against infectious diseases. Learn about how COVID-19 mRNA vaccines work (taken directly from your citation above). ".
#6, Reuters Fact Check: "In it a man referred to as "Dr David Martin", who has been linked to previous misinformation about the pandemic is seen speaking on a video call. In the clip, Martin claims that the vaccine is not actually a vaccine, but a "medical device" that makes people sick. "
To wit: The Delta variant causes more infections and spreads faster than earlier forms of the virus that causes COVID-19. It might cause more severe illness than previous strains in unvaccinated people (CDC 24/7).
(1) Vaccines continue to reduce a person's risk of contracting the virus that cause COVID-19, including this variant; (2) Vaccines continue to be highly effective at preventing hospitalization and death, including against this variant; (3) Fully vaccinated people with breakthrough infections from this variant appear to be infectious for a shorter period; (4) Get vaccinated and wear masks indoors in public spaces to reduce the spread of this variant.
Note: "Dr. David Martin" is not a medical doctor but featured on ultra-conservative media vehicles (such as 'bitchute') known for accommodating far-right individuals and conspiracy theorists, and for hosting hate speech.
YogiBear007
09-19-21, 01:00
I was just at Queens Hospital yesterday for a routine check up and asked the doctor how he felt about those anti-vaccinators filling up the critical ICU and bedspaces. He was hesitant at first and asked me, so I told him that these people had a choice to get the vaccine but choose not to and now what gives them the right to move to the front of the line and take up valuable bedspace while denying others who have no choice in this matter, but told to hold off on their scheduled appointments. He nodded in agreement, but can't voice his opinion because he has taken an oath to help all those in need of treatment regardless. Because COVID-19 is a bio-weapon, in the interest of public safety, I think all should be given the shots and those who still refuse, should sign a waiver forgoing treatment to take this burden off the hospital staff so they can psychologically be exempt from making this decision, which was already decided by the anti-vax people for refusing to take the shots. The governor has no balls neither are your coward politicians to take a lead in this matter.Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us.
Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us.All this unvax and crybaby philosophy; let's go "real world. " As the unvaccinated are becoming the bane of the medical, insurance carriers, social, health care (and much more) world, they will be (1) rationed for COVID-related medical care; (2) scrutinized and responsible for COVID-related health care insurance copays; (3) long-termers for COVID health after effects; (4) TBA.
All because: "Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us." I beg to differ. These are times of emergency conditions and the unvaccinated are the main cause of making things worse and they are to be judged because "Thats their choice." Lastly, if they are human then they should start acting like humans instead of selfish twits.
All this unvax and crybaby philosophy; let's go "real world. " As the unvaccinated are becoming the bane of the medical, insurance carriers, social, health care (and much more) world, they will be (1) rationed for COVID-related medical care; (2) scrutinized and responsible for COVID-related health care insurance copays; (3) long-termers for COVID health after effects; (4) TBA.
All because: "Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us." I beg to differ. These are times of emergency conditions and the unvaccinated are the main cause of making things worse because "Thats their choice."Yes, I would agree, stupid people who signed their death wish by refusing to vaccinate should do everyone a favor and go jump off the cliff and not take anyone else with them as in the case when they catch COVID-19, then expect to go to the front of the line taking up valuable ICU and hospital beds when they had a choice to get the vaccination shots. What do you say to parents who got the shots and taken every pre-caution to protect their school age kids who have no choice in this matter because they are too young to get vaccinated, but somehow catch COVID-19 and told "sorry brudda, no more ICU or hospital beds for your son / daughter" Now the question remains, should the hospital base their tri-age decision between and older mature anti-vac person or a youngster that has a bright future ahead who had no choice in this matter? If was I, I would put that anti-vac patient on a wheel barrow and dump him on the street to make room for that school age kid.
Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us.I, for one, have no sympathy for the ones who chose not to get vaccinated. It's been approved so what's the problem? It's a means of staying alive. The doctors have a choice too. They can choose who they feel has the best chance to survive. It's coming to that there has already been discussion.
I, for one, have no sympathy for the ones who chose not to get vaccinated. It's been approved so what's the problem? It's a means of staying alive. The doctors have a choice too. They can choose who they feel has the best chance to survive. It's coming to that there has already been discussion.Additionally, if anybody cares, the days of full coverage for COVID illnesses are coming to an end; some insurers are asking for copays, leaving some COVID patients with huge medical bills (you know how that goes). And all unpayable costs related to the critically unvaccinated COVID lolos eventually trickles down to everybody else until whatevers collapses. In agreement with and in fairness to others, the unvaccinated should receive rationed, separate, triaged care. Legally categorize the eligible, voluntarily unvaccinated as liabilities (in order to legally seek compensation for their negligence).
GreenTrees
09-19-21, 13:15
All this unvax and crybaby philosophy; let's go "real world. " As the unvaccinated are becoming the bane of the medical, insurance carriers, social, health care (and much more) world, they will be (1) rationed for COVID-related medical care; (2) scrutinized and responsible for COVID-related health care insurance copays; (3) long-termers for COVID health after effects; (4) TBA.
All because: "Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us." I beg to differ. These are times of emergency conditions and the unvaccinated are the main cause of making things worse and they are to be judged because "Thats their choice." Lastly, if they are human then they should start acting like humans instead of selfish twits.All you provide is your crybaby philosophy about the unvax. Just because you afraid to die, don't mean other people need to be afraid of dying like you are." If they are human then they should start acting like humans instead of selfish twits." You and your opinion is Selfish. All you do is whine about the unvaxed, why does it bother you so much? Civil servants had to work in close quarters, unvaxed, during the whole ordeal while the state was "shut down". Doing their work on clandestine hot spots so that people like you have the liberty to provide your crybaby philosophy about the unvax. You have your own worries. For some people, the dangers of their work environment is more pressing: dying onboard a burning sub, or knowing that they will possibly be locked into the compartment alive in order to save the ship and the environment, or being trapped in a confined space while the ship is flooding or burning. "The unvaccinated are the main cause of making things worse and they are to be judged." No worry, get plenty unvaxed civil servants that work on boats and keep them fit to destroy. Those boats provide you the opportunity to have Liberty and your own opinion. Judge all you like.
I had Covid and healed myself with vitamin D3/ K2, C, Zinc and Chlorine Dioxide. It took 21 days but I just stayed home, rested and healed myself. Going to the hospital is a death sentence. They do the PCR test and everything is diagnosed as Covid; flu will test positive, pneumonia will test positive, etc. That's why there are more cases of Covid. When you're diagnosed as Covid they don't put you on a regular treatment protocol but under the CDC mandated Covid protocol which doesn't include high dosage of vitamin supplements but they overmedicated you and put you under a ventilator and then 80% of patients die with a ventilator. Stay away from hospitals!
All you provide is your crybaby philosophy about the unvax. Just because you afraid to die, don't mean other people need to be afraid of dying like you are." If they are human then they should start acting like humans instead of selfish twits." You and your opinion is Selfish. All you do is whine about the unvaxed, why does it bother you so much? Civil servants had to work in close quarters, unvaxed, during the whole ordeal while the state was "shut down". Doing their work on clandestine hot spots so that people like you have the liberty to provide your crybaby philosophy about the unvax. You have your own worries. For some people, the dangers of their work environment is more pressing: dying onboard a burning sub, or knowing that they will possibly be locked into the compartment alive in order to save the ship and the environment, or being trapped in a confined space while the ship is flooding or burning. "The unvaccinated are the main cause of making things worse and they are to be judged." No worry, get plenty unvaxed civil servants that work on boats and keep them fit to destroy. Those boats provide you the opportunity to have Liberty and your own opinion. Judge all you like.Those that chose to be unvaccinated have already signed their death certificate, but somehow they expect to be given priority to move ahead in line and get ICU or beds in the hospital. Now with your theory of being stuck in some sinking submarine are just delusional example and completely off topic to the COVID-19 and the rapid spread of the Delta mutation infecting the very ones the most who refused to be vaccinated and now infesting the valuable ICU and hospital beds so that now those who follow the CDC guidelines are told "sorry, no room for you" because of these fools who are too coward to face the consequences they place upon themselves and "honor" that death certificate they obligated themselves when they refuse to be vaccinated. Its the same principle during the HIV pandemic during the 1980's when more than 90% of all HIV cases were amongst homosexual men who later spread it widely to women and became everyone's problem. It is these fools who refuse vaccination that will again spread it to everyone else.
FleshPrince
09-19-21, 22:00
Who are you to judge people if they don't want to b vaxed. Thats their choice. And if they do catch covid. They should be in front line. They are humans like us.Here's a hypothetical for you:
So if you are on a cruise ship 3 months from now with 2500 other unvaccinated passengers, and there is a covid outbreak, and there is a vax available that is immediately effective upon being administered, would you take the shot? In this hypothetical, the ship is 3 weeks from shore and there are only 5 ICU beds available on board. Also, it is suspected that the outbreak is potentially due to a new strain so no one on shore wants to take the chance to have passengers ferried off the ship. So the only way to ensure survival without any ill effects (short or long term) is to either take the shot or let the virus go thru the ship, eventually developing herd immunity, but not before taking lives or causing lingering ailments. How would you handle yourself in this situation? I wonder how many anti vaxxers would suddenly become willing to take the shot.
Blackbriar
09-19-21, 23:03
Here's a hypothetical for you:
So if you are on a cruise ship 3 months from now with 2500 other unvaccinated passengers, and there is a covid outbreak, and there is a vax available that is immediately effective upon being administered, would you take the shot? In this hypothetical, the ship is 3 weeks from shore and there are only 5 ICU beds available on board. Also, it is suspected that the outbreak is potentially due to a new strain so no one on shore wants to take the chance to have passengers ferried off the ship. So the only way to ensure survival without any ill effects (short or long term) is to either take the shot or let the virus go thru the ship, eventually developing herd immunity, but not before taking lives or causing lingering ailments. How would you handle yourself in this situation? I wonder how many anti vaxxers would suddenly become willing to take the shot.That's more worse than a 3 hour boat tour on the S. S. Minnow.
Incogfilipino
09-20-21, 01:37
I had Covid and healed myself with vitamin D3/ K2, C, Zinc and Chlorine Dioxide. It took 21 days but I just stayed home, rested and healed myself. Going to the hospital is a death sentence. They do the PCR test and everything is diagnosed as Covid; flu will test positive, pneumonia will test positive, etc. That's why there are more cases of Covid. When you're diagnosed as Covid they don't put you on a regular treatment protocol but under the CDC mandated Covid protocol which doesn't include high dosage of vitamin supplements but they overmedicated you and put you under a ventilator and then 80% of patients die with a ventilator. Stay away from hospitals!I don't know where you are getting that information from, but from personal experience, the flu will not test positive in a COVID test. I have been tested numerous times (over 10 times this year due to travel and tests during quarantine in other countries) and when I caught the flu this year, I got a COVID test to be safe. It was negative, just the flu. Coincidentally, this year I didn't get the flu shot until after I caught the flu since I normally don't catch the flu and wasn't going out much so I skipped it, although I did get one when I got my first COVID vaccine.
That's more worse than a 3 hour boat tour on the S. S. Minnow.And there's no Mary-ann or Ginger to easy the pain!
Ige has mandated no spectators in the last 2 home games at Ching field due to covid but he accommodates 245 UH band members to perform at halftime? WTF!
Thumperforq
09-20-21, 20:43
"In July, reporter Alex Berenson flagged emerging data from Israel suggesting a rise in cases and, potentially, even hospitalizations and deaths.
Israel was perhaps the earliest and most broadly vaccinated nation on earth.
Was this a signal of the vaccine's failure to block transmission and its lack of durability?
For asking this question, Twitter suspended Berenson for a week.
Unfortunately, Berenson was onto something.
Over the next few months, Israeli cases and illnesses surged.
Of the 607 Israelis who died of Covid-19 in the month of August, 375 (61.8%) had received either two or three doses of the Pfizer vaccine, while 232 (38.2%) had either zero or one dose.
Because a high proportion of Israelis had been fully vaccinated, the rate of illness among the vaccinated was still lower than the unvaccinated.
The vaccines reduce the severity of disease – at least for several months.
For most high-risk individuals, vaccination probably still makes sense.
Yet the rationale for universal vaccination, for coercive measures, and for the vaccination of young people had crashed. ".
https://www.realclearmarkets.com/articles/2021/09/20/as_the_rationale_for_total_vaccination_sputters_censorship_soars_795066.html
Ige is an idiot.
Ige has mandated no spectators in the last 2 home games at Ching field due to covid but he accommodates 245 UH band members to perform at halftime? WTF!
"Although no "spectators" will be permitted for a second consecutive UH home game, a waiver was granted to allow the fully vaccinated (no exemptions or exceptions) UH Band to attend and perform. The band is situated in the Mauka stands socially distanced and more 40 yards away from the UH sideline (Honolulu Star-Advertiser, 09/19/2021). ".
"The band, an academic course made up of more than 250 students, has been allowed to rehearse in-person. Their request to perform at the outdoor football games, however, has been denied. Band members point out that all members are required to be fully-vaccinated (no exemptions or exceptions) and they are following all safety protocols based on nationwide guidance for marching bands and to allow the students who are taking an accredited class to engage in their assessments (UH News, 09/17/2021). ".
They was making use of an educational exemption and was "granted a waiver because membership in the marching band requires registration in a music class. The full marching band earns a university credit for completing work in Music 419-E and Music 419 F, different skill-level courses that meet for 90-minute sessions three times a week (Stephen Tsai, Honolulu Star-Advertiser, 09/20/2021). ".
Check out his story on Hawaii News Now BTW He Co-founded the anti-vaccine mandate group. For those of you and you know who you are think this covid is just a made up virus to keep you at home go see what this guy Chris has to say now after he landed in the hospital with this made up covid. Sometimes I guess people need to be hurt in order to see what's really going on.
I was just at Queens Hospital yesterday for a routine check up and asked the doctor how he felt about those anti-vaccinators filling up the critical ICU and bedspaces. He was hesitant at first and asked me, so I told him that these people had a choice to get the vaccine but choose not to and now what gives them the right to move to the front of the line and take up valuable bedspace while denying others who have no choice in this matter, but told to hold off on their scheduled appointments. He nodded in agreement, but can't voice his opinion because he has taken an oath to help all those in need of treatment regardless. Because COVID-19 is a bio-weapon, in the interest of public safety, I think all should be given the shots and those who still refuse, should sign a waiver forgoing treatment to take this burden off the hospital staff so they can psychologically be exempt from making this decision, which was already decided by the anti-vax people for refusing to take the shots. The governor has no balls neither are your coward politicians to take a lead in this matter.20% of all hospitalization in Hawaii have anything to do with covid. Swallow some more corporate media sploodge. 20%. I just finished my covid infection, it was like catching a cold. Oh shit, I'm still alive! You people are pathetic.y your logic, all fat people out there dying of heart disease should not have been eating all those plate lunches, no health care for you!
I don't know where you are getting that information from, but from personal experience, the flu will not test positive in a COVID test. I have been tested numerous times (over 10 times this year due to travel and tests during quarantine in other countries) and when I caught the flu this year, I got a COVID test to be safe. It was negative, just the flu. Coincidentally, this year I didn't get the flu shot until after I caught the flu since I normally don't catch the flu and wasn't going out much so I skipped it, although I did get one when I got my first COVID vaccine."If Detected: indicative of active infection but do not rule out bacterial infection or other viral infections. ".
By viral infections, that also includes influenza. 😏 Mine was DETECTED, huh, felt like a cold. Maybe I'm just not brainwashed like most here thinking everyone going to die cause they catch the man made China virus.
FleshPrince
09-20-21, 23:29
"If Detected: indicative of active infection but do not rule out bacterial infection or other viral infections. ".
By viral infections, that also includes influenza. 😏 Mine was DETECTED, huh, felt like a cold. Maybe I'm just not brainwashed like most here thinking everyone going to die cause they catch the man made China virus.The obvious flaw in your argument lies in your own claim that the covid test you took has the potential for false positives. So since you're taking that position, how do you know that you were actually infected with covid and recovered, as you claim. Of course it's possible to recover from it but how do you know that you ACTUALLY DID?
Those that chose to be unvaccinated have already signed their death certificate, but somehow they expect to be given priority to move ahead in line and get ICU or beds in the hospital. Now with your theory of being stuck in some sinking submarine are just delusional example and completely off topic to the COVID-19 and the rapid spread of the Delta mutation infecting the very ones the most who refused to be vaccinated and now infesting the valuable ICU and hospital beds so that now those who follow the CDC guidelines are told "sorry, no room for you" because of these fools who are too coward to face the consequences they place upon themselves and "honor" that death certificate they obligated themselves when they refuse to be vaccinated. Its the same principle during the HIV pandemic during the 1980's when more than 90% of all HIV cases were amongst homosexual men who later spread it widely to women and became everyone's problem. It is these fools who refuse vaccination that will again spread it to everyone else.This is how you can tell when you're brainwashed. Every person I know who has gotten the China virus just drank lots of water and vitamins for a week or so. Including me. No fear from death. Only the media fear porn people swallow and recount andectodal Bullshit of hearing about a friend of a friend who's on deaths doorstep on social butt hurt media. I hear the same garbage from you, who hide from the inevitable. You're going to get covid just like you catch the cold. If you got comorbidities, issues with your lungs, you may have a tough time. Take your miracle Vax if you're scared. I now have 27 times less chance of catching the China virus again because of natural immunity. I can see you butt hurt vaccine pushing twats fuming at this thought. 🤣.
The obvious flaw in your argument lies in your own claim that the covid test you took has the potential for false positives. So since you're taking that position, how do you know that you were actually infected with covid and recovered, as you claim. Of course it's possible to recover from it but how do you know that you ACTUALLY DID?That IS a good question. Why don't we also ask this about ALL of those positives out there with this same pcr test? My SO tested first with me 2 days prior. She tested positive, I was negative. That night, I felt the chills. So went back and retested for a positive result. Both so and I recovered quickly, me quicker, but she's way more healthy than I. I'm mid 50's diabetic. Huh, I should be dead eh? 😏.
So, we can conclude it's a mass of false positives contributing to the covid numbers or, it was covid and it felt like the flu..... Which do you prefer?
Maybe I'm just not brainwashed like most here thinking everyone going to die cause they catch the man made China virus.
Oh shit, I'm still alive! You people are pathetic.y your logic, all fat people out there dying of heart disease should not have been eating all those plate lunches, no health care for you!
Going to the hospital is a death sentence. 80% of patients die with a ventilator. Stay away from hospitals!
Just because you afraid to die, don't mean other people need to be afraid of dying like you are: dying onboard a burning sub.Notice how all these conspiracy theory, misinformation, anti-vax, Big Lie, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Fux Newts, social antidisestablishmentarianism, and the like lolos are so preoccupied with death. Sad their life; mo bettah ma'ke, pau. Tough buggahs no can figure out the COVID data, clinical and medical results. Oy vey.
RoadRally2
09-21-21, 00:00
Covid is not a death sentence. The majority of people recover fine and beat covid (vac or unvaccinated) . Sure some people don't do very well and end up make but that's the minority.
No fear from death. Who's on deaths doorstep on social butt hurt media. Take your miracle Vax if you're scared.
I'm mid 50's diabetic. Huh, I should be dead eh?Death, skaid, dead. All the COVID misinformation, conspiracy theories, BS. Prove / show whatever comes out of your diarrhea mouth with credible facts, evidence and citations. Lay off the mac salad.
Notice how all these conspiracy theory, misinformation, anti-vax, Big Lie, Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, Fux Newts, social antidisestablishmentarianism, and the like lolos are so preoccupied with death. Sad their life; mo bettah ma'ke, pau. Tough buggahs no can figure out the COVID data, clinical and medical results. Oy vey.You still don't get it. Every post from you well fed corporate media recepticals is about Unvaccinated dying and "signing their death warrant ". I'm pro vaccine too, just not this shit. This Lolo does not fear it because I don't swallow that fear porn, shot daily in your face.
It's ok, you stay happy and take your boosters every 6 months and hope the mu varient doesn't kill you. 😉.
Death, skaid, dead. All the COVID misinformation, conspiracy theories, BS. Prove / show whatever comes out of your diarrhea mouth with credible facts, evidence and citations. Lay off the mac salad.Credible facts will bounce off your feeble minded forhead. It's out there, you won't look. , just follow CNN. 🤣.... I don't eat Mac salad, it's bad for your health. 😉
You still don't get it. Every post from you well fed corporate media recepticals is about Unvaccinated dying and "signing their death warrant ". I'm pro vaccine too, just not this shit. This Lolo does not fear it because I don't swallow that fear porn, shot daily in your face. It's ok, you stay happy and take your boosters every 6 months and hope the mu varient doesn't kill you. 😉."Corporate media recepticals (receptacle), fear porn, shot daily, kill. " You'll never get it so take care of your health instead. Aloha.
FleshPrince
09-21-21, 05:25
You still don't get it. Every post from you well fed corporate media recepticals is about Unvaccinated dying and "signing their death warrant ". I'm pro vaccine too, just not this shit. This Lolo does not fear it because I don't swallow that fear porn, shot daily in your face.
It's ok, you stay happy and take your boosters every 6 months and hope the mu varient doesn't kill you. 😉.Sorry I lost track. What is your main reason for not supporting the covid vaccine again?
https://www.cdc.gov/csels/dls/locs/2021/07-21-2021-lab-alert-Changes_CDC_RT-PCR_SARS-CoV-2_Testing_1.html
This is what's really happening in hospitals:
https://www.brighteon.com/b6761eab-841c-49c9-85c4-ff75f3559696
This is what's really happening in hospitals:https://www.brighteon.com/b6761eab-841c-49c9-85c4-ff75f3559696Caution: "As one of the internet's oldest and most prolific sources of health misinformation and conspiracy theories, Natural News is a hub for climate change deniers and anti-vaxxers. While it poses as a news outlet, Natural News is actually a network of sites filled with bylined articles and flanked by ads for survivalist gear and dodgy health cures. The internet trust tool NewsGuard reports that Natural News "severely violates basic standards of credibility and transparency. " Various fact-checking organizations have repeatedly flagged Natural News content as false. " (James Bareham, Vox / Recode, June 25,2020).
Affiliation: Mike Adams (deceased; suicide) began building out the Natural News network, affording him more opportunity to develop his particular brand of viral paranoia as well as to build connections with other conspiracy theorists and members of the far right, including Alex Jones.
Thumperforq
09-22-21, 00:27
Sorry I lost track. What is your main reason for not supporting the covid vaccine again?It's killed about 14,000 people in the US. There are about 40,000 people that have had reactions ro the vaccine, resulting in blood clots, gas, enlarged testicles, myocardial inflammation, peritoneal inflammation, strokes, heart attacks, etc. With no compensation from the manufactures or the government entities calling for mandatory vaccines.
Caution: "As one of the internet's oldest and most prolific sources of health misinformation and conspiracy theories, Natural News is a hub for climate change deniers and anti-vaxxers. While it poses as a news outlet, Natural News is actually a network of sites filled with bylined articles and flanked by ads for survivalist gear and dodgy health cures. The internet trust tool NewsGuard reports that Natural News "severely violates basic standards of credibility and transparency. " Various fact-checking organizations have repeatedly flagged Natural News content as false. " (James Bareham, Vox / Recode, June 25,2020).
Affiliation: Mike Adams (deceased; suicide) began building out the Natural News network, affording him more opportunity to develop his particular brand of viral paranoia as well as to build connections with other conspiracy theorists and members of the far right, including Alex Jones.Where did you copy that disinformation from. Google, CNN, MSM fake news? Mike Adams is not dead.
Caution: "As one of the internet's oldest and most prolific sources of health misinformation and conspiracy theories, Natural News is a hub for climate change deniers and anti-vaxxers. While it poses as a news outlet, Natural News is actually a network of sites filled with bylined articles and flanked by ads for survivalist gear and dodgy health cures. The internet trust tool NewsGuard reports that Natural News "severely violates basic standards of credibility and transparency. " Various fact-checking organizations have repeatedly flagged Natural News content as false. " (James Bareham, Vox / Recode, June 25,2020).
Affiliation: Mike Adams (deceased; suicide) began building out the Natural News network, affording him more opportunity to develop his particular brand of viral paranoia as well as to build connections with other conspiracy theorists and members of the far right, including Alex Jones.Ok, so you don't like Brighteon. Here's the same video on YouTube:
http://www.yoganandaji.org/board/showthread.php?t=10720&page=127
JusAnoddaGuy
09-22-21, 05:27
Caution: "As one of the internet's oldest and most prolific sources of health misinformation and conspiracy theories, Natural News is a hub for climate change deniers and anti-vaxxers. While it poses as a news outlet, Natural News is actually a network of sites filled with bylined articles and flanked by ads for survivalist gear and dodgy health cures. The internet trust tool NewsGuard reports that Natural News "severely violates basic standards of credibility and transparency. " Various fact-checking organizations have repeatedly flagged Natural News content as false. " (James Bareham, Vox / Recode, June 25,2020).
Affiliation: Mike Adams (deceased; suicide) began building out the Natural News network, affording him more opportunity to develop his particular brand of viral paranoia as well as to build connections with other conspiracy theorists and members of the far right, including Alex Jones.Brah. Braahhh. What you doing? Fact checking. Try look, Mike Adams do video yesterday brah. Rumble September 21 2021. Not dead not suicide. Anybody can see that bugger alive. Okay so not trying for start shit or get in your hair, but you got to let live. People make life decisions themselves. Some needs more time for see studies and long term effects. What? We going TRUST drug companies? They don't know enough yet. Period. Me? I'm talking to doctors, nurses, care workers, real people working the hospitals. Just today I'm talking to nurse working California hospital. She's got over forty Covid patients in hospital. All, every single one, had the vaccine. That's small kind data, but all? I'm not fucking stupid, I remember haole Fauci said you get vaccine you take off mask and live life, everything okay. Is that what we doing now? J&J vaccine one shot, you good. No more. All bullshit. More sick people than ever. Doctors I'm talking to saying same as nurses. Vaccine aint doing shit. All for making money. All this right and left is bullshit for divide people, make huhu. Coronavirus is for real. Dangerous for many people. I know two in hospital; one asthma patient in for two weeks. Another strong Tahitian in for one week. So not telling you virus is minors. But this making fun of people and opinions got to stop. Name calling. Anti vaxxers? WTF is that? I tell you: psychological operation. Maybe bumbai get vaccinated, maybe not. All personal decisions and you got to make them yourself not on pressure or headfuck. You like get vaccinated? I give Aloha. You not? Aloha. Division got to stop. More information needed, more studies, tracking vaccinated. This is serious shit and everyone work together.
Brah. Braahhh. What you doing? Fact checking. Try look, Mike Adams do video yesterday brah. Rumble September 21 2021. Not dead not suicide. Anybody can see that bugger alive.Oi, you seeing ghosts?
Ok, so you don't like Brighteon. Here's the same video on YouTubeBrighteon, etal. You know what 'etal' mean?
FleshPrince
09-22-21, 19:03
It's killed about 14,000 people in the US. There are about 40,000 people that have had reactions ro the vaccine, resulting in blood clots, gas, enlarged testicles, myocardial inflammation, peritoneal inflammation, strokes, heart attacks, etc. With no compensation from the manufactures or the government entities calling for mandatory vaccines.Of course those are all indisputable stats from impeccable sources without cause for reproach right? No, I didn't think so either. Sounds like more politically biased baseless conspiracy theories hatched by Qanon followers.
Ok, so you don't like Brighteon. Here's the same video on YouTube:
http://www.yoganandaji.org/board/showthread.php?t=10720&page=127Because you have to be credible to post a video on YouTube? I'm willing to bet I can find a video telling me that is I drink horse piss it's beneficial to me, doesn't mean I'm going to do it.
Because you have to be credible to post a video on YouTube? I'm willing to bet I can find a video telling me that is I drink horse piss it's beneficial to me, doesn't mean I'm going to do it.Don't you see it's not about YouTube or Brighteon? Did you watch the video? Project Veritas reports the truth and exposed fraud as they've done in the past with numerous whistleblowers. Watch the video! The nurse is very credible and works at the Federal Health and Housing Dept. In Alaska and the actual footage of the videos are real doctors talking about horrendous things going on in the hospital. One doctor said the vaccine is "full-of-sh*t. " Are you saying all that is BS and made up?.
Thumperforq
09-23-21, 12:44
Of course those are all indisputable stats from impeccable sources without cause for reproach right? No, I didn't think so either. Sounds like more politically biased baseless conspiracy theories hatched by Qanon followers.Data is from the vaers website, which records all the incidents for government. Media not covering, because doesn't support the government spin. Learn to actually look at sources, not media spin or Faucci.
Don't you see it's not about YouTube or Brighteon? Did you watch the video? Project Veritas reports the truth and exposed fraud as they've done in the past with numerous whistleblowers. Watch the video! The nurse is very credible and works at the Federal Health and Housing Dept. In Alaska and the actual footage of the videos are real doctors talking about horrendous things going on in the hospital. One doctor said the vaccine is "full-of-sh*t. " Are you saying all that is BS and made up?.Yuups. Project Veritas is a conservative media organization dedicated to secretly infiltrating progressive organizations to produce unflattering and often selectively edited videos. Project Veritas operates under the guise of citizen journalism, but serves a conservative political agenda without adhering to basic journalistic ethics. The organization was founded by James O'Keefe, a protg of Andrew Breitbart, in 2010.
Project Veritas has frequently been criticized for editing its videos to deceive its audience and misrepresent its subjects. New York magazine described O'Keefe's ACRON videos as having been "edited in a highly misleading way."
(1) A 2010 investigation into the ACRON videos found that O'Keefe's videos were "severely edited," and an accompanying press release described O'Keefe as a "partisan zealot."
(2) In 2016, Andrew Seaman, chair of the Society of Professional Journalists' ethics committee wrote that O'Keefe is "not an ethical journalist" and has a "history of distorting facts or context."
(3) Project Veritas' deceptive editing has been a source of continuing legal trouble for the group, which is currently fighting at least two defamation lawsuits filed by individuals featured in its videos, and has paid three settlements to individuals who brought defamation claims.
Wow I thought that would be more like 10% of total vaccinated, which would be 28 million dead from the shot. People. Die from penicillin. Benadryl, aspirin over the counter stuff not even the death shot. From the government. Mahalo for sharing that positive information.
It's killed about 14,000 people in the US. There are about 40,000 people that have had reactions ro the vaccine, resulting in blood clots, gas, enlarged testicles, myocardial inflammation, peritoneal inflammation, strokes, heart attacks, etc. With no compensation from the manufactures or the government entities calling for mandatory vaccines.
It's killed about 14,000 people in the US. There are about 40,000 people that have had reactions ro the vaccine, resulting in blood clots, gas, enlarged testicles, myocardial inflammation, peritoneal inflammation, strokes, heart attacks, etc. With no compensation from the manufactures or the government entities calling for mandatory vaccines.They be scared that's why they look for anything that supports their no vax views. People are always afraid of new things they don't understand. Its called change and people don't like it. Covid has changed things and they are scared. They say its about freedom but they put on a seatbelt when told to. They say its dangerous but they cross the streets not in sidewalks. Millions of doses very few side effects. On this forum I call pussies.
They be scared that's why they look for anything that supports their no vax views. People are always afraid of new things they don't understand. Its called change and people don't like it. Covid has changed things and they are scared. They say its about freedom but they put on a seatbelt when told to. They say its dangerous but they cross the streets not in sidewalks. Millions of doses very few side effects. On this forum I call pussies.Chances are you may not be not familiar with the Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System, or VAERS. Co-managed by the USA Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration, VAERS was established in 1990 to detect possible safety problems with vaccines.
Unfortunately, the anti-vaccine movement has used this once-obscure database to spread misinformation about the COVID-19 vaccine.
VAERS is ripe for exploitation because it relies on unverified self-reports of side effects. Anyone who received a vaccine can submit a report. And because this information is publicly available, misinterpretations of its data has been used to amplify COVID-19 misinformation through dubious social media channels and mass media, including one of the most popular shows on cable news.
FleshPrince
09-23-21, 16:32
Data is from the vaers website, which records all the incidents for government. Media not covering, because doesn't support the government spin. Learn to actually look at sources, not media spin or Faucci.The Vaers website reports data that is collected from healthcare workers, vaccine manufacturers, and the public related to adverse effects of vaccines. Regarding the deaths reported after taking the covid vaccine, the CDC and FDA have stated that there is NO causality link between taking the vaccine and deaths resulting from it. "The FDA requires healthcare providers to report any death after COVID-19 vaccination to VAERS, even if it is unclear whether the vaccine was the cause. " So if someone had died after having had the vaccine, the death was reported to Vaers regardless of the actual cause of death. Obviously this creates data that is misleading, although the intent was to provide transparency.
Of course, Qanon followers and other conspiracy theorists will jump on the data and distort facts, claiming that the vaccine causes deaths.
Keep believing what you want.
Thumperforq
09-24-21, 00:24
They be scared that's why they look for anything that supports their no vax views. People are always afraid of new things they don't understand. Its called change and people don't like it. Covid has changed things and they are scared. They say its about freedom but they put on a seatbelt when told to. They say its dangerous but they cross the streets not in sidewalks. Millions of doses very few side effects. On this forum I call pussies.No we don't. I never wear a seat belt or wear a helmet when on a bike. Where do you come up with these assumptions? The vaccine has caused deaths and other long term effects. Burying your head in the sand isn't going to change that. Also natural immunity from being exposed to covid is a lot stronger than the vaccine. The fact that you constantly need boosters points to how ineffective this vaccine is. Data from Israel and Singapore also show how weak this vaccine is against a virus that has a low percentage of deaths. Your immune system is 99.6% able to overcome the virus. If anything, they should have concentrated on therapeutics, instead of buying them up and making them scarce. If you obese, you have a problem, diabetic or other underlying condition, you have a problem. If you have a strong immune system and practice basic hygiene, you ok.
DrtHackery808
09-24-21, 00:44
No we don't. I never wear a seat belt or wear a helmet when on a bike. Where do you come up with these assumptions? The vaccine has caused deaths and other long term effects. Burying your head in the sand isn't going to change that. Also natural immunity from being exposed to covid is a lot stronger than the vaccine. The fact that you constantly need boosters points to how ineffective this vaccine is. Data from Israel and Singapore also show how weak this vaccine is against a virus that has a low percentage of deaths. Your immune system is 99.6% able to overcome the virus. If anything, they should have concentrated on therapeutics, instead of buying them up and making them scarce. If you obese, you have a problem, diabetic or other underlying condition, you have a problem. If you have a strong immune system and practice basic hygiene, you ok.I agree but be honest, do people stick with their sides as mentioned? I was a never her and a never Trumper. Dems lost me when they forced crooked hill into the spot, I voted Indy 2016 then 2020, I went orange-man. I think since I got older and made more money, I see red tie as my side. I don't want higher taxes and now see the ignorance of my youth. Doesn't make me want the orange man again but I would take him over this bum any day.
With this, What we see is a division like no other. If trump won and was pushing vax the other side would be antivax. Since he lost, blue people jumped to whatever creepy pops says and flipflop Fauchi. They all crooked, we the pawns and the guinea pigs. I don't want to be forced to do anything. That is un-American. People don't know how good we have it until they go other places. I wish they could See what the non free world is like. Seat belt and helmet talk is stupid, there's no reasoning with some people but we live in a place where this can take place. Soon, blue ties will ensure they keep control and it will never be relinquished.
I agree but be honest, do people stick with their sides as mentioned? I was a never her and a never Trumper. Dems lost me when they forced crooked hill into the spot, I voted Indy 2016 then 2020, I went orange-man. I think since I got older and made more money, I see red tie as my side. I don't want higher taxes and now see the ignorance of my youth. Doesn't make me want the orange man again but I would take him over this bum any day.
With this, What we see is a division like no other. If trump won and was pushing vax the other side would be antivax. Since he lost, blue people jumped to whatever creepy pops says and flipflop Fauchi. They all crooked, we the pawns and the guinea pigs. I don't want to be forced to do anything. That is un-American. People don't know how good we have it until they go other places. I wish they could See what the non free world is like. Seat belt and helmet talk is stupid, there's no reasoning with some people but we live in a place where this can take place. Soon, blue ties will ensure they keep control and it will never be relinquished.Don't completely agree (20%) with this post but I liked your honesty and personal revelations. At least you made some sense this time so I'll apologize for my past remark regarding your "ignore" status (for now; temporarily). No need worry too much about Orange Boy because he going be in the hoosegow soon and more broke than ever, IMO.
I was just at Queens Hospital yesterday for a routine check up and asked the doctor how he felt about those anti-vaccinators filling up the critical ICU and bedspaces. He was hesitant at first and asked me, so I told him that these people had a choice to get the vaccine but choose not to and now what gives them the right to move to the front of the line and take up valuable bedspace while denying others who have no choice in this matter, but told to hold off on their scheduled appointments. He nodded in agreement, but can't voice his opinion because he has taken an oath to help all those in need of treatment regardless. Because COVID-19 is a bio-weapon, in the interest of public safety, I think all should be given the shots and those who still refuse, should sign a waiver forgoing treatment to take this burden off the hospital staff so they can psychologically be exempt from making this decision, which was already decided by the anti-vax people for refusing to take the shots. The governor has no balls neither are your coward politicians to take a lead in this matter.I totally agree with this!
News report today: "Hawaii sets new record with 3,484 new coronavirus cases". Although there are differing opinions about the statistics, unfortunately I've temporarily suspended mongering, and especially any mongering involving DFK.
Have any other forum members modified or temporarily suspended their monger activities because of the virus resurgence?
News report today: "Hawaii sets new record with 3,484 new coronavirus cases". Although there are differing opinions about the statistics, unfortunately I've temporarily suspended mongering, and especially any mongering involving DFK.
Have any other forum members modified or temporarily suspended their monger activities because of the virus resurgence?Happy Mongering New Years Guys, when this new variant was first reported. I put the brakes on any AMP mongering. I agree with you Red, especially DFK. Be safe fellow mongers. Hoping for better servicing, new fresh girls and worldwide travel to visit and bang those girls around the world. Hono1.
News report today: "Hawaii sets new record with 3,484 new coronavirus cases". Although there are differing opinions about the statistics, unfortunately I've temporarily suspended mongering, and especially any mongering involving DFK.
Have any other forum members modified or temporarily suspended their monger activities because of the virus resurgence?I have put on the brakes for this great hobby until this variant and covid shit is under control. I personally think the risk is great as we know these providers see multiple clients in a day. My friend has covid and he is not sure where he caught it, but he did see one of his favorites recently. He warned me so I am playing it safe for now. If I'm horny like in my younger years, I would risk it and go all in and fuck them all. But as we all get older, we come to realize that life is too short. Staying home for now. LOL.
One of my favorites is coming back soon. I'll have to give it some thought if I want to risk it for the boobs and sweet personality.
Stay safe. Happy new year to all you mongers.
Prudential808
12-31-21, 13:34
News report today: "Hawaii sets new record with 3,484 new coronavirus cases". Although there are differing opinions about the statistics, unfortunately I've temporarily suspended mongering, and especially any mongering involving DFK.
Have any other forum members modified or temporarily suspended their monger activities because of the virus resurgence?Honestly I really did not care that much and don't care.
The reason I got vaccine was life itself is not easy without it. That's it.
If he is afraid of virus, then it is he who must put butt at home. No force others to sacrifice their own lives to make his life longer.
I have put on the brakes for this great hobby until this variant and covid shit is under control. I personally think the risk is great as we know these providers see multiple clients in a day. My friend has covid and he is not sure where he caught it, but he did see one of his favorites recently. He warned me so I am playing it safe for now. If I'm horny like in my younger years, I would risk it and go all in and fuck them all. But as we all get older, we come to realize that life is too short. Staying home for now. LOL.
One of my favorites is coming back soon. I'll have to give it some thought if I want to risk it for the boobs and sweet personality.
Stay safe. Happy new year to all you mongers.I am limiting my other activities. I feel safe to see Yuna at Happiness. I see how well she keeps her body clean and fit and she has had all of her shots. She eats very healthy as well. I figure at most she can possibly see is 24 guys a day if she is busy all 24 hours.
I cant say the same for the young Chinese providers that seem to have questionable hygiene.
I don't feel safe when I go to foodland or Best Buy. A whole lot more people there in the stores than at happiness. I just try to avoid going to places that have a lot of people around. So I don't go out to eat or go shopping but I still pay my visits to see my favorite girl of all time.
News report today: "Hawaii sets new record with 3,484 new coronavirus cases". Although there are differing opinions about the statistics, unfortunately I've temporarily suspended mongering, and especially any mongering involving DFK.
Have any other forum members modified or temporarily suspended their monger activities because of the virus resurgence?I've been hearing that quite a few vaccinated people are contracting this Omicron variant--even some who have received the booster shot. So, if a provider claims she is vaccinated, I wouldn't completely believe she is COVID-free. For the time being, I am hesitant to be inside an enclosed space with any provider.
I've been hearing that quite a few vaccinated people are contracting this Omicron variant--even some who have received the booster shot. So, if a provider claims she is vaccinated, I wouldn't completely believe she is COVID-free. For the time being, I am hesitant to be inside an enclosed space with any provider.Stay safe.
The reason I got vaccine was life itself is not easy without it. That's it.No shame for fear the enemy; fear can be used as guidance for winning.
I am limiting my other activities. I feel safe to see Yuna at Happiness.
Kinda contradictory for see one GOAT but that's how you feel and it's your business. See last quote.
So, if a provider claims she is vaccinated, I wouldn't completely believe she is COVID-free. For the time being, I am hesitant to be inside an enclosed space with any provider.Good to know people are "on it" when it comes to something like a novel variant of any virus.
Stay safe.Amen, and all that. Happy New Year to all.
GreenTrees
01-01-22, 13:20
Run for the hills the Flu is back!
"Get vaccination. Get boosters." For what? It's one of the bunkest vaccines Ever!
Earlier in the week Josh Green said 120+ in hospital for covid. 60 unvaccinated and 60+ were fully vaccinated. 12 people on ventilators. 50% of people on ventilators end up with problems and potentially die.
Get the vaccine. ! More people got vaccinated and now more people are getting sick. Piss poor vaccine quality.
FDA approved vaccine Comirnaty not even available in the United States. Records to remain hidden for 75 years.
Run for the hills. The Flu is back!
All fake news. We all have to adjust with it and live with it. It's going to be I be around for years.
The vaccine is not going to prevent you from getting COVID, but it helps with the effects / symptoms when you do get it. It's almost inevitable that everyone will catch it sometime. I have it now and if it wasn't for the test, I wouldn't think I have COIVD. Two others I know have it and were not vaccianted, they are still having a lot more symtpoms over a week into it. Cough, fatigue, headache, fever.
Kinda contradictory for see one GOAT but that's how you feel and it's your business.I have no plans on becoming a hermit because of a virus. The only entertainment I have is seeing Yuna at Happiness. Should I change into a hermit and never leave my home again? I feel safer there than at other places like 7-11 and ABC stores that have many people breathing the same air. I do admit that I am breathing the same air as Yuna when I am there.
Earlier we were all promised that we just needed to wear a mask until we got vaccinated and to buy time so our healthcare professionals can get ready. I wonder what they have been doing the last two years. They must be really ready for anything by now but I must have missed that. Now we are being told that the vaccine wears off only after a half a year's time. I don't remember being told that when I got vaccinated.
Now the vaccine doesn't seem very effective in preventing anyone from getting sick. I wonder what the next line that our politicians will tell us about Covid-19. Are they still thinking that we have the science and technology to stop a virus from spreading and from getting people sick? Or if we wear a piece of cloth on our faces, it can stop a virus from spreading?
I see everyone wearing masks when I go to the grocery store so how come we have over three thousand catching the virus? Doesn't seem like anything I am being told is truly science but more like propaganda. All viruses including the flu and the common cold mutate. Why is anyone surprised that the coronavirus mutates as well?
I wonder how long they are going to take before they tell us that the coronavirus is not going away.
The vaccine is not going to prevent you from getting COVID, but it helps with the effects / symptoms when you do get it. It's almost inevitable that everyone will catch it sometime. I have it now and if it wasn't for the test, I wouldn't think I have COIVD. Two others I know have it and were not vaccianted, they are still having a lot more symtpoms over a week into it. Cough, fatigue, headache, fever.There is the "virus", SARS-cv-2, and there is the "disease", COVID. You can test positive for the virus but not be sick with COVID.
People just aren't making the distinction.
If you do get COVID, the survival rate is 99% if you are under 40. It is all a crock of shit and propaganda!
The chance of dying from covid is highly age stratified, and dependent on risk factors (obesity, diabetes. Etc).
The survival rate is 97% even if you include the above in the calculation.
If you are young and healthy, there is little to fear.
So try using your critical thinking skills, if you have them, and stop the freaking hysteria!
99.74% not 97
Of the .26% that die 94% of them had an average of 4 risk factors.
A2
All fake news. We all have to adjust with it and live with it. It's going to be I be around for years.800,000+ dead unvaccinated Americans and their friends and families would like a word.
The chance of dying from covid is highly age stratified, and dependent on risk factors (obesity, diabetes. Etc).
The survival rate is 97% even if you include the above in the calculation.
If you are young and healthy, there is little to fear.
So try using your critical thinking skills, if you have them, and stop the freaking hysteria!
99.74% not 97
Of the .26% that die 94% of them had an average of 4 risk factors.
A2California deputy the who opposed vaccine mandate dies of COVID. She was 46. Of course this is fake news. But its really the deep state George Soros and the Clintons conspiracy to kill off old white republicans and stupid people. Go, go COVID!
California deputy the who opposed vaccine mandate dies of COVID. She was 46.
Didn't you know its a conspiracy by Soros, Clintons and the deep state to kill off old white men and stupid people?
Oh but this is fake news, don't believe it. No need vax. Social security fund will last longer. GO GO COVID!
GreenTrees
01-05-22, 23:05
Breaking news today, now there is Flurona. All over the main stream media this afternoon. Influenza and Coronavirus at the same time. Run for the hills, the flu is back.
Try gewgle "cdc influenza graph 2020" under images. Look at the graphs that goes from 2017-2018 season to 2020-2021 season. Per CDC graph, flu virtually disappeared in 2020. Now it's back. You ever had Influenza B? It can put you in the same conditions as the rona. The flu must have been place on lock down as well when rona was on a world tour in 2020. And now it's back and the new monster is Flurona. Never ending story.
Prudential808
01-06-22, 15:27
Breaking news today, now there is Flurona. All over the main stream media this afternoon. Influenza and Coronavirus at the same time. Run for the hills, the flu is back.
Try gewgle "cdc influenza graph 2020" under images. Look at the graphs that goes from 2017-2018 season to 2020-2021 season. Per CDC graph, flu virtually disappeared in 2020. Now it's back. You ever had Influenza B? It can put you in the same conditions as the rona. The flu must have been place on lock down as well when rona was on a world tour in 2020. And now it's back and the new monster is Flurona. Never ending story.As 30 something healthy man in healthy weight. I will not give up my activity including AMP clubbing.
So if he worry cause he is old, sick any reason, he should keep his butt at home. Don't ask others to give up their lives for his own life.
And in Honolulu I think it is "old grandpas" who get pissed by "mask rule" "no kiss" "shortening time" at AMP?
As 30 something healthy man in healthy weight. I will not give up my activity including AMP clubbing.
So if he worry cause he is old, sick any reason, he should keep his butt at home. Don't ask others to give up their lives for his own life.
And in Honolulu I think it is "old grandpas" who get pissed by "mask rule" "no kiss" "shortening time" at AMP?Healthy 30-year-old NJ baseball coach dies of coronavirus. Google it it happens all the time. But I know you think you are special. Special ed maybe.
Get vaxed and stay out of the hospital. Give the doctors and nurses a break, let grandma get her surgery.
Get vaxed and stay out of the hospital. Give the doctors and nurses a break, let grandma get her surgery.So what are you planning to do in 2023 or 2024 about Covid-19? Or are you still thinking that by wearing your mask the virus will disappear and not stay around like the flu?
These new kind gene therapy vaccines we are now being told only lasts for six months so are you going to be a good boy and get your flu shot once a year and your Covid shot twice a year? And if you are mongering, don't forget about your hepatitis A and B vaccines. The old style Johnson & Johnson Covid vaccine is supposed to last longer but the cdc is pushing the mRNA gene therapy vaccine for Covid. I guess side effects of heart inflammation is better than getting blood clots.
Seems like any symptoms that you tell your doctor are Covid symptoms. Symptoms of Heart disease? Might be Covid. Pain in your belly? That too might be Covid. So get ready for your nose to be tested with any new doctor visit.
Everyone should stop going out and work from home, become hermits and use Amazon and door dash. Just hope that the mailman and the delivery guy doesn't bring you Covid so grandma can get her surgery. If you dont do that then you are just being selfish.
Prudential808
01-07-22, 19:42
Healthy 30-year-old NJ baseball coach dies of coronavirus. Google it it happens all the time. But I know you think you are special. Special ed maybe.
Get vaxed and stay out of the hospital. Give the doctors and nurses a break, let grandma get her surgery.And never complain about all the mandatory rules set by private establishment and government.
And also I don't complain about AMP girls who don't like dfk with new customers while complain about 18 yo kids going to party with their gfs. As many old mongers here do.
Little Dickie
01-08-22, 17:43
Seems like any symptoms that you tell your doctor are Covid symptoms. Symptoms of Heart disease? Might be Covid. Pain in your belly? That too might be Covid. So get ready for your nose to be tested with any new doctor visit.I just spent 5 hours in the ER. I was not tested for covid, and covid was not even mentioned while I was there. I was tested and treated for the symptoms I went in for.
Here's an interesting article on which face masks provide more effective protection:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/why-you-should-upgrade-your-face-mask-to-an-n95.html
Here's an interesting article on which face masks provide more effective protection:
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/12/why-you-should-upgrade-your-face-mask-to-an-n95.htmlInteresting that the doctor seems to say that cloth masks don't work and everyone need to be wearing a n95 mask.
I just spent 5 hours in the ER. I was not tested for covid, and covid was not even mentioned while I was there. I was tested and treated for the symptoms I went in for.I am glad that your experience was different from mine. I guess the ER doctors you had were different from the ones I saw at pali Momi last year. The first thing they did before I got treated was to test my nose.
Interesting that the doctor seems to say that cloth masks don't work and everyone need to be wearing a n95 mask.Here's another article that appears to take the same view:
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/23/1066871176/mask-n95-omicron-contagious
Excerpt: "given how contagious omicron is, experts say, it's seriously time to upgrade to an N95 or similar high-filtration respirator when you're in public indoor spaces. 'Cloth masks are not going to cut it with omicron,' says Linsey Marr, a researcher at Virginia Tech who studies how viruses transmit in the air".
Yep my experience was different. ER no COVID test at Kaiser. Maybe its timing--maybe they tested everyone before vaccine and early on since nobody around the world had a clue. Virus was clearly winning the war in a big way early on. I went post vaccine last year. No test.
I am glad that your experience was different from mine. I guess the ER doctors you had were different from the ones I saw at pali Momi last year. The first thing they did before I got treated was to test my nose.
COVID 19 (omicron) testing recommended 48-72 hours (incubation period) after notification of possible COVID 19 (omicron) infection. If you test too soon then not going be accurate; but test ASAP if you get obvious symptoms. Check the current guidance at state DOH or federal health agencies as this virus is in constant flux. Take care.
Here's another article that appears to take the same view:
http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/23/1066871176/mask-n95-omicron-contagious
Excerpt: "given how contagious omicron is, experts say, it's seriously time to upgrade to an N95 or similar high-filtration respirator when you're in public indoor spaces. 'Cloth masks are not going to cut it with omicron,' says Linsey Marr, a researcher at Virginia Tech who studies how viruses transmit in the air".No masks can stop SARS-cv-2 virus particles which are smaller than red blood cells. The conventional wisdom within the medical field in the past has been that masks are not effective against upper respiratory viruses. No medical evidence that they do. In fact, you can't really stop the spread of viruses like this. It will spread, some will get sick, recover, and then produce anti-bodies against it. That is the science behind viruses.
NPR? Give me a break. Propaganda network.
RoadRally2
01-12-22, 20:40
Yep my experience was different. ER no COVID test at Kaiser. Maybe its timing--maybe they tested everyone before vaccine and early on since nobody around the world had a clue. Virus was clearly winning the war in a big way early on. I went post vaccine last year. No test.Maybe it's Kaiser. Kaiser Save money if no need waste money on Covid tests right?
No masks can stop SARS-cv-2 virus particles which are smaller than red blood cells. The conventional wisdom within the medical field in the past has been that masks are not effective against upper respiratory viruses. No medical evidence that they do. In fact, you can't really stop the spread of viruses like this. It will spread, some will get sick, recover, and then produce anti-bodies against it. That is the science behind viruses.
NPR? Give me a break. Propaganda network.Yes they may not be 100% but they will stop that spit coming out when you talk. It also helps w your drool and drival. If they don't work why don't all hospital workers get covid?
Maybe it's Kaiser. Kaiser Save money if no need waste money on Covid tests right?Although I don't belong to any political party, this article seems to recap nicely what as happened with the response to Covid.
https://www.lp.org/end-it-now/?bbeml=tp-I2McIaygZkuj4K6TFTDwbA.joX6c_Pv_8kC_neiBNaAroQ.rB7jrIqHUPE2dErurTnL10A.l8sNcGJrynEe3nEpfAmxSpw
COVID 19 (omicron) testing recommended 48-72 hours (incubation period) after notification of possible COVID 19 (omicron) infection. If you test too soon then not going be accurate; but test ASAP if you get obvious symptoms. Check the current guidance at state DOH or federal health agencies as this virus is in constant flux. Take care.Be safe all for the long weekend.
Be safe all for the long weekend.Can order free rapid COVID home test kits starting next Wed. (01/19): "Starting Jan. 19, Americans will be able to request four free at-home COVID-19 tests per household at COVIDTests.Gov, with kits shipping within seven to twelve days."
No masks can stop SARS-cv-2 virus particles which are smaller than red blood cells. The conventional wisdom within the medical field in the past has been that masks are not effective against upper respiratory viruses. No medical evidence that they do. In fact, you can't really stop the spread of viruses like this. It will spread, some will get sick, recover, and then produce anti-bodies against it. That is the science behind viruses.
NPR? Give me a break. Propaganda network.The cloth mask is more to keep your spit blobs filled with virus from flying out of your mouth and hitting my face. To use the blood analogy, the blood cells are small but he cloth mask will keep your liquid blood you cough up from getting on me.
Anybody that doesn't "believe" masks help why don't you have your surgical team take off their surgical masks the next time you go in for surgery. Let them breath and cough all over your open surgical incision.
News headline yesterday:
"Hawaii sets record with 6,252 new coronavirus cases".
The cloth mask is more to keep your spit blobs filled with virus from flying out of your mouth and hitting my face. To use the blood analogy, the blood cells are small but he cloth mask will keep your liquid blood you cough up from getting on me.
Anybody that doesn't "believe" masks help why don't you have your surgical team take off their surgical masks the next time you go in for surgery. Let them breath and cough all over your open surgical incision.Thanks for your insights. I guess I would not have figured that out. And I was thinking that this was an airborne virus like the flu. I still don't know effective cloth masks are with this airborne virus. I wouldn't want my doctors wearing a cloth mask instead of a fresh surgical mask that they haven't been wearing all day. The article that Redneck1 posted seems very believable to me and said that a cloth mask won't stop me from spreading Covid to you. It said that I would have to wear a n95 mask to slow down an airborne virus, but still not prevent the virus from spreading. I am still waiting for my free n95 masks from the government so I can comply with the next government mandate.
I am now very reluctant to go get my third vaccine shot. My second shot made me very sick for a couple of days and I don't want to go through that again. That was the only time that I got sick from any vaccine shot and I have had many during my lifetime. Now when the manufacturers are immune from any product liability, it makes me wonder how safe this vaccine really is.
Thanks for your insights. I guess I would not have figured that out. And I was thinking that this was an airborne virus like the flu. I still don't know effective cloth masks are with this airborne virus. I wouldn't want my doctors wearing a cloth mask instead of a fresh surgical mask that they haven't been wearing all day. The article that Redneck1 posted seems very believable to me and said that a cloth mask won't stop me from spreading Covid to you. It said that I would have to wear a n95 mask to slow down an airborne virus, but still not prevent the virus from spreading. I am still waiting for my free n95 masks from the government so I can comply with the next government mandate.
I am now very reluctant to go get my third vaccine shot. My second shot made me very sick for a couple of days and I don't want to go through that again. That was the only time that I got sick from any vaccine shot and I have had many during my lifetime. Now when the manufacturers are immune from any product liability, it makes me wonder how safe this vaccine really is.No need its just the flu, LOL. I suggest hanging in bars and around people and find out for yourself. Of course don't listen to the medical professionals you should listen to guys on a fuck forum. LOL.
No need its just the flu, LOL. I suggest hanging in bars and around people and find out for yourself. Of course don't listen to the medical professionals you should listen to guys on a fuck forum. LOL.The article Redneck1 posted from what I can tell was done by medical researchers and not by mongers. I probably don't trust Much of the news on the tv about Covid anymore. Now I understand that we all can get 3 n95 masks for free. Is that so we can wear a new mask each month so we only need to get 3 for free? If it is still a new mask every day then that won't last too long.
I guess you don't take the flu too seriously when tens of thousands of Americans die from it every year and like not hundreds of thousands as reported with Covid. But I don't know how accurate any of the reporting is since I don't trust the news or the cdc to tell me the truth when they have a political agenda to push.
All I know is I dont get sick from the vaccine when I get my annual flu shot. I did get sick from the vaccine with my 2nd Covid shot.
All I know is I dont get sick from the vaccine when I get my annual flu shot. I did get sick from the vaccine with my 2nd Covid shot.You sure the vaccine (second shot) when cause the illness? Or recently and coincidently when contract COVID (with mild symptoms) from being reckless during a laxed moment? Not accusing or criticizing; just asking and invading your privacy.
I when get mild (1/5) soreness at the vaccination spot twice for two days; little more soreness (2/5) at the vaccination spot for booster for three days; no other symptoms. Everybody different.
FYI, I when test twice using the rapid OTC COVID kit and both neg (starter at one golf shop tested +; two cashiers one large market tested +). Good for know but not guarans; when still follow the protocol for five days; always wear mask anyway.
FarFarAway
01-22-22, 14:17
Thanks for your insights. I guess I would not have figured that out. And I was thinking that this was an airborne virus like the flu. I still don't know effective cloth masks are with this airborne virus. I wouldn't want my doctors wearing a cloth mask instead of a fresh surgical mask that they haven't been wearing all day. The article that Redneck1 posted seems very believable to me and said that a cloth mask won't stop me from spreading Covid to you. It said that I would have to wear a n95 mask to slow down an airborne virus, but still not prevent the virus from spreading. I am still waiting for my free n95 masks from the government so I can comply with the next government mandate.
I am now very reluctant to go get my third vaccine shot. My second shot made me very sick for a couple of days and I don't want to go through that again. That was the only time that I got sick from any vaccine shot and I have had many during my lifetime. Now when the manufacturers are immune from any product liability, it makes me wonder how safe this vaccine really is.You don't understand a lot. Most vaccine manufacturers deal w / liability via a large deep pockets organization. So that is not an indication of whether it is safe or not. Or, apply your logic to every vaccine.
What would you prefer? A day or two of feeling crappy (as your immune system ramps up its response to the virus protein it is seeing with a slug of interferon and interleukins), or getting intubated.
FarFarAway
01-22-22, 14:23
Thanks for your insights. I guess I would not have figured that out. And I was thinking that this was an airborne virus like the flu. I still don't know effective cloth masks are with this airborne virus. I wouldn't want my doctors wearing a cloth mask instead of a fresh surgical mask that they haven't been wearing all day. The article that Redneck1 posted seems very believable to me and said that a cloth mask won't stop me from spreading Covid to you. It said that I would have to wear a n95 mask to slow down an airborne virus, but still not prevent the virus from spreading. I am still waiting for my free n95 masks from the government so I can comply with the next government mandate..I wear a cloth mask that has a PM2. 5 filter in a pocket inside. These are supposedly good for 12 hours of use. And you can buy them off of Amazon at something like $10 for 30, so you throw them away (if you wear your mask all day). I wear mine only when I am indoors near others, so I should really be fine for longer use. And, if I wore it two days ago, any virus particles it caught will die soon when they can't infect any cells. Right? A virus isn't a free-living organism.
On high-risk occasions, like airplanes, IK some people like to use an N95 but it isn't that comfortable. Put the N95 on your face but hold it in place w / your cloth mask. You will have really pretty good protection from this, of course nothing is perfect.
There is a chart in a recent AARP bulletin about masks, no doubt N95's are best, but a cloth mask w / a filter was 2nd best.
You sure the vaccine (second shot) when cause the illness? Or recently and coincidently when contract COVID (with mild symptoms) from being reckless during a laxed moment? Not accusing or criticizing; just asking and invading your privacy.
I when get mild (1/5) soreness at the vaccination spot twice for two days; little more soreness (2/5) at the vaccination spot for booster for three days; no other symptoms. Everybody different.
FYI, I when test twice using the rapid OTC COVID kit and both neg (starter at one golf shop tested +; two cashiers one large market tested +). Good for know but not guarans; when still follow the protocol for five days; always wear mask anyway.I had no reaction at all with the 1st shot. With the 2nd shot It was too painful to move my whole arm that got the shot. Just like my nerves were on fire in my whole arm for almost a week. And I had a fever, headache, and body chills that lasted 3 days which started later on the same day as my vaccine shot.
So I don't know what will happen if I get another shot. I don't understand this mRNA gene therapy and what it does. Why I get no reaction to the 1st shot and a big reaction to the 2nd shot. I don't think I will chance getting another shot to find out what will happen next as the shot they now are saying only lasts for 6 months.
Incogfilipino
01-23-22, 05:37
On high-risk occasions, like airplanes, IK some people like to use an N95 but it isn't that comfortable. Put the N95 on your face but hold it in place w / your cloth mask. You will have really pretty good protection from this, of course nothing is perfect.
Airplanes aren't very high risk considering the air being filtered and completely replaced in the cabin every few minutes. The only thing is spending hours in close proximity to someone who is sick on the plane, that would obviously be risky, more so due to the proximity and other factors like if they aren't wearing a mask themselves, etc. Flying first or business basically eliminates that risk too.
MattTuthill
01-23-22, 13:01
Also a good way for government to not pay social security that is running out.
The covid deceased can't file complaints or law suit once they die from Covid complications.
Airplanes aren't very high risk considering the air being filtered and completely replaced in the cabin every few minutes. Flying first or business basically eliminates that risk too.Unless you get one jackass onboard who disrupt the flight by no respect airplane policy compliance (masking) and they turn the plane around, divert or deplane somewhere else. Up to the crew and pilot following their procedure for unruly passengers (aka jackasses). Then the filters no matter that much, LOL.
MatthewCain
01-24-22, 07:22
Vaccines seem to be free. After all pharmaceuticals get paid from tax money. Must be better business than the opioid addiction they started. All has to take the shot and it's good for only 6 months if he / she want to go out to restaurants gym and etc like a normal person.
Unless you get one jackass onboard who disrupt the flight by no respect airplane policy compliance (masking) and they turn the plane around, divert or deplane somewhere else. Up to the crew and pilot following their procedure for unruly passengers (aka jackasses). Then the filters no matter that much, LOL..
Vaccines seem to be free. After all pharmaceuticals get paid from tax money. Must be better business than the opioid addiction they started. All has to take the shot and it's good for only 6 months if he / she want to go out to restaurants gym and etc like a normal person.I no know about your data, but via WHO: "Monitoring vaccine effectiveness is critical to *Optimize use of limited resources, *Demonstrate impact of vaccine on health outcomes (justify cost), *Optimize vaccine uptake, *Stimulate development of improved vaccines. " They no doubt the efficacy of vaccines and stay advocating for cost effective, reliable, safe COVID vaccine product (s); nothing is perfect or guarans. What is (besides death and taxes)?
I found out that I can get an appointment to get the Johnson and Johnson shot at my doctors office. I will probably try that one and hopefully I won't get sick like the Pfizer shot.
Yuna is telling me that she got her Covid booster shot and her flu shot done and has talked me into trying a different booster shot other than the Pfizer one.
I found out that I can get an appointment to get the Johnson and Johnson shot at my doctors office. I will probably try that one and hopefully I won't get sick like the Pfizer shot.
Yuna is telling me that she got her Covid booster shot and her flu shot done and has talked me into trying a different booster shot other than the Pfizer one.Everyone is different I got the Pfizer didn't get sick just arm was sore for a day then all good my friends had merderna and J&J and Pfizer and got sick chills but after a day all good.
I found out that I can get an appointment to get the Johnson and Johnson shot at my doctors office. I will probably try that one and hopefully I won't get sick like the Pfizer shot.
Yuna is telling me that she got her Covid booster shot and her flu shot done and has talked me into trying a different booster shot other than the Pfizer one.I just got my JnJ booster shot yesterday and now I am sick in bed. At least I am not as sick as I was with the second Pfizer shot and my arm isn't causing me too much grief. I just have flu like symptoms and Tylenol seems to be working very well. I am thinking that I will be back to normal tomorrow.
WetAndWild
02-16-22, 02:39
I just got my JnJ booster shot yesterday and now I am sick in bed. At least I am not as sick as I was with the second Pfizer shot and my arm isn't causing me too much grief. I just have flu like symptoms and Tylenol seems to be working very well. I am thinking that I will be back to normal tomorrow.Read that having side effects is not all bad. Some say that side effects means that the body is recognizing the virus and is fighting it, therefore more side effects.
I'm not a medical professional, just what I heard and read.
Read that having side effects is not all bad. Some say that side effects means that the body is recognizing the virus and is fighting it, therefore more side effects.
I'm not a medical professional, just what I heard and read.I read some article about people boosting their immune system prior to getting the COVID-19 vaccines and not getting the after-effects. So I did just that by taking at least 1000 mg vitamin C and 200 mg Zinc every day for a month prior to getting the Moderna two shot plus the third booster without any ill effects. My brother in law got really sick from the second Moderna shot, he never took those Vitamin C or Zinc.
Ray Purchase
03-03-22, 12:32
I hear the wearing of masks will no longer be required sometime in March.
I for one have enjoyed wearing the masking going to and from AMPs.
Kinda feel safe wearing it knowing you won't be easily recognized on the walk of shame.
I saw some people I know coming out of CC once and I walked straight passed them, I'm sure I'd have been spotted without the mask on.
Anyway stay safe guys.
I hear the wearing of masks will no longer be required sometime in March.
I for one have enjoyed wearing the masking going to and from AMPs.
Kinda feel safe wearing it knowing you won't be easily recognized on the walk of shame.
I saw some people I know coming out of CC once and I walked straight passed them, I'm sure I'd have been spotted without the mask on.
Anyway stay safe guys.As always, its those ignorant selfish ones who insist not taking the COVID-19 vaccination shots and not wearing a mask although it is a proven scientific fact that they are the ones who endanger not just themselves, but others around them. Just look at the statistical fact on the last two mass infections. Over 90% of intensive care patients consists of people who fit this category. And I wouldn't be surprised that we will have another spike in ICU cases when the State lifts this restriction and the unvaccinated ones again begin to spread it to others and get sick themselves to be admitted to the ICU units at hospital and again forcing doctors to suspend surgeries and other procedures simply for the fact that medical attention will be diverted to save these sorry s $$holes who again begin to flood the ICU units. Too bad the State Senate did not pass a law that anyone not vaccinated who gets sick from COVID-19 should be given less priority and stand in the back of lines for those who got the vaccine. There are no excuses since COVID-19 vaccination shots are FREE of charge.
As always, its those ignorant selfish ones who insist not taking the COVID-19 vaccination shots and not wearing a mask although it is a proven scientific fact that they are the ones who endanger not just themselves, but others around them. There are no excuses since COVID-19 vaccination shots are FREE of charge.Concur with your overview and well-placed statements. Had one guy at Walmart who always ignores the security and enters, uses the bathroom, goes around the store and exits empty handed; all without masking and irritating/frustrating shoppers. Just this past week somebody when warn him (with one slep) in the parking lot; now he wears one mask. Why got to come down to this? The learning curve.
As always, its those ignorant selfish ones who insist not taking the COVID-19 vaccination shots and not wearing a mask although it is a proven scientific fact that they are the ones who endanger not just themselves, but others around them. Just look at the statistical fact on the last two mass infections. Over 90% of intensive care patients consists of people who fit this category. And I wouldn't be surprised that we will have another spike in ICU cases when the State lifts this restriction and the unvaccinated ones again begin to spread it to others and get sick themselves to be admitted to the ICU units at hospital and again forcing doctors to suspend surgeries and other procedures simply for the fact that medical attention will be diverted to save these sorry s $$holes who again begin to flood the ICU units. Too bad the State Senate did not pass a law that anyone not vaccinated who gets sick from COVID-19 should be given less priority and stand in the back of lines for those who got the vaccine. There are no excuses since COVID-19 vaccination shots are FREE of charge.Not everyone needs the clot shot. You, fully brainwashed suffer from mass formation psychosis. The "Science" has never changed. Masks are useless and the clot shot creates more issues than it's intended goal. You swallowed the "If everyone is vaccinated, covid goes away". Keep swallowing. Many, like me had covid and fought a couple days of sniffles and fatigue without getting your lauded clot shot, meanwhile, all the vaccine takers are still getting sick and ask, How?? 🤣 You snowflakes warned those that didn't get the shot would end up on a ventilator, yet suprise, this whole bullshit scamdemic, more people died from Influenza and pneumonia last year than the ENTIRE "Pandemic" in Hawaii. I pointed this fact out monthly, linking Hawaii. Health. Gov website and it would get deleted on social media. Yeah, they should pass a law if you're a fat fuk eating too many big macs, you shouldn't be treated for heart disease. WTF kind of non thought process is that? Anyway, even the admin here knew long ago, and attempted to explain to you snowflakes what this was. Yet, you're still on it. 😘.
List of 30 studies showing face masks are useless against COVID-19
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.18.21257385v1.full-text
https://swprs.org/face-masks-evidence/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/29395560/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32590322/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15340662/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/26579222/
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31159777/
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4420971/
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.01.20049528v1
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Then, there is real event analysis, where Florida and Hawaii were tied for the lowest case counts one month. However, Hawaii essentially blocked all tourists and made Vax passports, Florida had a huge surge in tourism and have ZERO restrictions relating to Covid.
ArdentAries808
03-04-22, 20:03
As always, its those ignorant selfish ones who insist not taking the COVID-19 vaccination shots and not wearing a mask although it is a proven scientific fact that they are the ones who endanger not just themselves, but others around them. Just look at the statistical fact on the last two mass infections. Over 90% of intensive care patients consists of people who fit this category. And I wouldn't be surprised that we will have another spike in ICU cases when the State lifts this restriction and the unvaccinated ones again begin to spread it to others and get sick themselves to be admitted to the ICU units at hospital and again forcing doctors to suspend surgeries and other procedures simply for the fact that medical attention will be diverted to save these sorry s $$holes who again begin to flood the ICU units. Too bad the State Senate did not pass a law that anyone not vaccinated who gets sick from COVID-19 should be given less priority and stand in the back of lines for those who got the vaccine. There are no excuses since COVID-19 vaccination shots are FREE of charge.I don't think it's necessarily proper or correct to slander people who do not view things the way you do. The point is you cannot say in one breath trust the science and then in the exact same breath deny the facts as they come out. Science is not set in stone, it's ever evolving. One year ago, people who said that masks won't do anything to stop the spread were shamed and deplatformed, and their careers ruined. Now, the CDC, the media, and the Democrat party is pretty much saying the same thing as there is no mask mandate other than Hawaii. Beerflu will be around for years, maybe forever. Asking people to put their lives on hold for you, me, or anyone else it's not only irrational.
Whether you're vaccinated or not, you can spread the virus. This is a scientific fact. What is misleading is all the numbers that say these people died from Covid. What I would like to know is how many people actually died from nothing but Covid, and who died from other medical conditions that were exacerbated by Covid. I would imagine that there is a huge disparity. My friend caught it twice, then got double Vaxxed, and caught it again. She definitely did her part to stop the spread, and it still didn't help. And nothing is free. The shots were paid for by the government who gets their money from us. It was definitely bought and paid for, and I have a feeling that for the next decade will be feeling the after effects.
All of this is said without a political lien as I am right down the middle. What I've noticed is that there is extremist on both sides, and we could all use more civility and tact when speaking and dealing with others. In the end, I don't care what people do with their lives. It's theirs, not mine. I'm not going to infringe upon them, nor am I going to allow them to infringe upon me. If the mask mandate goes away and you still want to wear your mask, no one's stopping you.
Purpose for getting the COVID vaccine:
1. Getting vaccinated against COVID-19 can lower your risk of getting and spreading the virus that causes COVID-19. Vaccines can also help prevent serious illness and death.
2. All steps have been taken to ensure that vaccines are safe and effective for people ages 5 years and older.
3. If you already had COVID-19, you should still get a COVID-19 vaccine for added protection.
4. When you are up to date on COVID-19 vaccination, you can resume many activities with proper precautions (e. G. , mask wearing in indoor public spaces).
Key words and phrases: lower your risk; help prevent serious; proven safe and effective; added protection; resume many activities with proper precautions.
I don't think it's necessarily proper or correct to slander people who do not view things the way you do. The point is you cannot say in one breath trust the science and then in the exact same breath deny the facts as they come out. Science is not set in stone, it's ever evolving. One year ago, people who said that masks won't do anything to stop the spread were shamed and deplatformed, and their careers ruined. Now, the CDC, the media, and the Democrat party is pretty much saying the same thing as there is no mask mandate other than Hawaii. Beerflu will be around for years, maybe forever. Asking people to put their lives on hold for you, me, or anyone else it's not only irrational.
Whether you're vaccinated or not, you can spread the virus. This is a scientific fact. What is misleading is all the numbers that say these people died from Covid. What I would like to know is how many people actually died from nothing but Covid, and who died from other medical conditions that were exacerbated by Covid. I would imagine that there is a huge disparity. My friend caught it twice, then got double Vaxxed, and caught it again. She definitely did her part to stop the spread, and it still didn't help. And nothing is free. The shots were paid for by the government who gets their money from us. It was definitely bought and paid for, and I have a feeling that for the next decade will be feeling the after effects..I was assigned to several Air Force combat mobile Communication units for over 10 years and constantly trained in Bio-chemical warfare and know how to utilize different conditions in such an environment up to full suit ups. COVID-19 is a bio-weapon and highly contagious even more so than chemical ones including Anthrax spores. It fits into the micron category and only KN95 or N95 and higher graded masks can actually filter out this virus. The cloth ones or surgical ones do not, the virus will easily pass through them. If the vast majority of those who are unvaccinated and does take precautions by wearing these masks and are tested regularly, then fine. But most are not and go around risking exposure not just for themselves but also can spread it to others including those who are vaccinated. The ones who are vaccinated and somehow gets infected are less prone to spread it because the antibodies are already fighting and knocking down the intensity of the virus in contrast to those who are unvaccinated and become infected with the full force of the virus and the body is responding not reacting in contrast to those who already been vaccinated. This is the biggest difference and statistics shows clearly that the most venerable, those in the older age group with preconditions have a high rate of dying if they are unvaccinated verses those who are. Also just look at the numbers on the last surge to the ICU units, the vast majority was from unvaccinated people who clogged the hospitals resulting in patients who needed surgery or other treatment being turned away because of the unvaccinated flooding the available bed spaces in the hospitals. This is not what I'll call "compassion" ones who refused the free vaccinations and now get sick pushing others to the back of the line. I got no respect for these ignorant ones.
GreenTrees
03-05-22, 16:39
1334 (deaths in hawaii) ÷ 256,131 (positive cases in hawaii) = 0. 005208272%.
Very deadly virus at a mortality rate of less than 1%.
And still the FDA approved vax (Comirnaty) not available in US.
Then the people from Kaiser aministering biontech said there is not suppoes to be that much bod aches after the fist dose. They said to take Tylenol for body aches. Apparently Advil reduces the effect of the jab. As soon as we got jab #2, we popped Advil and popped Advil the day after. No more body ache after that dose.
My son, ex wife, and current supervisor were vacksed and boosted yet they still got sick and tested positive.
0. 005% of positive cases end in death. Very deadly.
I was assigned to several Air Force combat mobile Communication units for over 10 years and constantly trained in Bio-chemical warfare and know how to utilize different conditions in such an environment up to full suit ups. COVID-19 is a bio-weapon and highly contagious even more so than chemical ones including Anthrax spores. It fits into the micron category and only KN95 or N95 and higher graded masks can actually filter out this virus. The cloth ones or surgical ones do not, the virus will easily pass through them. If the vast majority of those who are unvaccinated and does take precautions by wearing these masks and are tested regularly, then fine. But most are not and go around risking exposure not just for themselves but also can spread it to others including those who are vaccinated. The ones who are vaccinated and somehow gets infected are less prone to spread it because the antibodies are already fighting and knocking down the intensity of the virus in contrast to those who are unvaccinated and become infected with the full force of the virus and the body is responding not reacting in contrast to those who already been vaccinated. This is the biggest difference and statistics shows clearly that the most venerable, those in the older age group with preconditions have a high rate of dying if they are unvaccinated verses those who are. Also just look at the numbers on the last surge to the ICU units, the vast majority was from unvaccinated people who clogged the hospitals resulting in patients who needed surgery or other treatment being turned away because of the unvaccinated flooding the available bed spaces in the hospitals. This is not what I'll call "compassion" ones who refused the free vaccinations and now get sick pushing others to the back of the line. I got no respect for these ignorant ones.
Oof, I was army 23 years and NBC course trained, BFD, also had my Anthrax series crap.
I'm well aware of how contagious coronavirus is, just like influenza virus. I also know that all the face diapers people wear are pretty much worthless unless it's kn95, enen then, nobody wears them in close proximity with close family and friends, the main way people get infected. Contrary to the narrative, your not catching it as you walk on by people on the sidewalk, contact tracers use close proximity for at least 15 minutes. The unvaccinated weren't "Clogging" the hospitals. A whopping 20% of Hawaii hospital ICUs were COVID-19 related during that hype. Those who've had covid, like me and 180 million others plus are now immune. Even though the CDC cherry picks its studies politically and uses some Kentucky study of 246 case patients to make the claim vaxxed are less likely to reinfect, vs the Israeli study of 3. 5 million that shows the opposite. Obviously many of us think the vaccine isn't worth it, proof? I spent 4 days with the sniffles and I'm diabetic, my co worker got her Vax and was sick for 3 weeks. Remember the surge a couple of months ago when cases went up in Hawaii with idiot Iges Vax passport in place? Contract tracing determined most came from bars and restaurants. Eh? Those vaccinated just showed their papers, the unvaxed had a negative test. Where do you think all those infections came from? That "Insight" where you think they should push unvaccinated out of medical care is pathetic. Where does it stop? Does the smoker get denied for any respiratory / cardiac tx? Does the promiscuous person get denied meds for HIV or any other sexually transmitted dz? Does the careless person who got pregnant bc they didn't use a contraceptive get denied an abortion?
Let me know how that 5th or 6th booster goes. 🤣.
Purpose for getting the COVID vaccine:
1. Getting vaccinated against COVID-19 can lower your risk of getting and spreading the virus that causes COVID-19. Vaccines can also help prevent serious illness and death.
2. All steps have been taken to ensure that vaccines are safe and effective for people ages 5 years and older.
3. If you already had COVID-19, you should still get a COVID-19 vaccine for added protection.
4. When you are up to date on COVID-19 vaccination, you can resume many activities with proper precautions (e. G. , mask wearing in indoor public spaces).
Key words and phrases: lower your risk; help prevent serious; proven safe and effective; added protection; resume many activities with proper precautions.The CDC conveniently changed their definition of "vaccine" so these Covid shots would qualify, even though they are not vaccines.
Key wording changes:
Pre-2015 "Prevents a disease".
2015 "Produces immunity".
Sept 2021 "Provides protection:
So, these shots do not prevent COVID or produce immunity. Yet they are calling them vaccines.
May this explains why do many people are getting the shot and still getting COVID.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E-xM0KOWEAEnkDE?format=jpg&name=small
What is going on with the WHO saying that Covid 19 vaccines maybe causing hearing loss?
What is going on with the WHO saying that Covid 19 vaccines maybe causing hearing loss?164 possible cases out of over 11 billion doses given. 75% of the possible cases were women and 1/3 of the total were healthcare workers. Cases occurred one day after shot was administered. This likely has very little to do with the vaccine and even if it does, I anecdotally know people who died from covid and some younger (unvaccinated) people who suffer from long covid. Personally, I'll take my chances with the vaccine. That's my cost-benefit analysis but to each his own, my friend.
AustinRamos1
04-29-22, 06:07
164 possible cases out of over 11 billion doses given. 75% of the possible cases were women and 1/3 of the total were healthcare workers. Cases occurred one day after shot was administered. This likely has very little to do with the vaccine and even if it does, I anecdotally know people who died from covid and some younger (unvaccinated) people who suffer from long covid. Personally, I'll take my chances with the vaccine. That's my cost-benefit analysis but to each his own, my friend.To each his own, 100%. But let's be clear that your statement held serious bias. I will tell you that I am vaccinated and boosted and understand that the actual reason for the vaccine is to mitigate / attenuate the severity of the disease. It does not prevent you from contracting the disease, simply makes it so that the one receiving said vaccination has a higher likelihood of surviving and not developing as bad of symptoms should one not be vaccinated. There is literally NO report to suggest otherwise. I will wait while you check the CDC, WHI, and Pfizer's direct website. Absolutely no claim outside of attenuation. They offer a break down of mRNA processes versus traditional weakened / dead vaccine processes. All of this is public information. When they say do your research, they mean look the infor up via CDC, who (which routes back to CDC or Pfizer on some links), and manufacturer's website direct. Similar to MSDS sheet, al vaccines have a data sheet detailing what it is comprised of. What's more, the manufacturer goes into detail the process in which the vaccine works. I implore all to do there own research first and if you decide to not get vaccinated then that is 100% your informed decision! No one else's but yours. And that fine. Do won't push you one way or the other on vaccination or not. But I will push you toward the information so you can make an informed decision, one way or the other.
Given the overall subject of this forum, have any of you who have declined to be vaccinated ever told a provider or AMP worker that you are not vaccinated at all? If so, I wonder whether they decided to go forward with their providing of service.
Given the overall subject of this forum, have any of you who have declined to be vaccinated ever told a provider or AMP worker that you are not vaccinated at all? If so, I wonder whether they decided to go forward with their providing of service.I don't understand why you would need to tell anyone except your health care provider about your vaccinations especially about the Covid vaccine. If I get vaccinated for hepatitis B which is spread by sexual contact it will prevent me from catching it but it doesn't do anything to prevent my provider from catching it from somebody else.
Covid vaccine doesn't even do that. It won't prevent me or anyone else from catching Covid. From what I understand, it is now advertised as making the symptoms less serious. So now this vaccine will let the vaccinated be asymptomatic spreaders of Covid which is bad for the unvaccinated.
The only provider that has ever brought up vaccines to me has been Yuna, and that is probably because she is the only provider that I have ever repeated with more than 100 times and she knows me very well now. I don't think she would say anything to me about vaccines if I didn't see her so often. She has been double boosted but I am probably going to stop getting my booster shots for now as I get some side effects that I don't want to go through again. Yuna did bring up to me about her hepatitis A and B vaccinations and It made sense for me to get those vaccines too as an active monger.
From what I have read now, Covid probably came from an accidental release from a research project at the Wuhan lab that was being paid for by the US Government with oversight being provided by Dr Fauci. Kind of makes sense about why our government is very concerned about this virus that Dr Fauci and our government have created.
ClaraForever
06-03-22, 23:17
I don't understand why you would need to tell anyone except your health care provider about your vaccinations especially about the Covid vaccine. If I get vaccinated for hepatitis B which is spread by sexual contact it will prevent me from catching it but it doesn't do anything to prevent my provider from catching it from somebody else.
Covid vaccine doesn't even do that. It won't prevent me or anyone else from catching Covid. From what I understand, it is now advertised as making the symptoms less serious. So now this vaccine will let the vaccinated be asymptomatic spreaders of Covid which is bad for the unvaccinated.
The only provider that has ever brought up vaccines to me has been Yuna, and that is probably because she is the only provider that I have ever repeated with more than 100 times and she knows me very well now. I don't think she would say anything to me about vaccines if I didn't see her so often. She has been double boosted but I am probably going to stop getting my booster shots for now as I get some side effects that I don't want to go through again. Yuna did bring up to me about her hepatitis A and B vaccinations and It made sense for me to get those vaccines too as an active monger.
From what I have read now, Covid probably came from an accidental release from a research project at the Wuhan lab that was being paid for by the US Government with oversight being provided by Dr Fauci. Kind of makes sense about why our government is very concerned about this virus that Dr Fauci and our government have created.Which means she is older than 50?
Given the overall subject of this forum, have any of you who have declined to be vaccinated ever told a provider or AMP worker that you are not vaccinated at all? If so, I wonder whether they decided to go forward with their providing of service.This vaccinated vs non-vaccinated status is pretty much meaningless, IMO. It doesn't matter if you are vaccinated or not; you can still catch Covid. I know firsthand because I'm vaccinated with two boosters and still caught Covid.
MakaKiller
06-04-22, 21:35
This vaccinated vs non-vaccinated status is pretty much meaningless, IMO. It doesn't matter if you are vaccinated or not; you can still catch Covid. I know firsthand because I'm vaccinated with two boosters and still caught Covid.Sorry to hear that you caught Covid despite completing the CDC recommended vaccination protocol. Yes it is well know that one can still become sick even after completing the series. TBS it is also recognized that the severity and length of your COVID-19 illness and the need for a hospital stay is greatly reduced if vaccinated. There will always be individual variation in protection provided by vaccination. However there are additional technics well known to all of us that one can utilize to mitigate getting sick. I truly understand your frustration. Just continue to Stay Safe.
LargeRocket69
06-04-22, 22:44
Which means she is older than 50?Isn't she? She's good looking for her age but I always thought she looked late 40's at the the youngest but always assumed at least early 50's looking.
Sorry to hear that you caught Covid despite completing the CDC recommended vaccination protocol. Yes it is well know that one can still become sick even after completing the series. TBS it is also recognized that the severity and length of your COVID-19 illness and the need for a hospital stay is greatly reduced if vaccinated. There will always be individual variation in protection provided by vaccination. However there are additional technics well known to all of us that one can utilize to mitigate getting sick. I truly understand your frustration. Just continue to Stay Safe.Thanks for your response. My bout with Covid lasted about two weeks--not really that bad, just an annoyance. I'd like to believe that the vaccine treatments kept me out of the hospital.
I managed to dodge Covid prior to this, and I never just stayed at home. So, I'm guessing I caught it because this latest variant is particularly nasty or it's because I was mingling with people not wearing masks--myself included. I do believe it is the latter.
Thanks for your response. My bout with Covid lasted about two weeks--not really that bad, just an annoyance. I'd like to believe that the vaccine treatments kept me out of the hospital.
I managed to dodge Covid prior to this, and I never just stayed at home. So, I'm guessing I caught it because this latest variant is particularly nasty or it's because I was mingling with people not wearing masks--myself included. I do believe it is the latter.2 weeks Whoa! I know of at least 12 friends, family members, co workers that got the recent Covid. All of them were vaccinated. All said they had slight fever and felt kind of weak but ONLY lasted for 2 days max.
Stinkfinga
07-14-22, 21:20
Mr. Chow catch covid, so Chow wonder if okay to exercise? Chow look at himself and like lean look. Chow notice more ab definition. But Chow upset at his legs! Chow have hard time with his legs. Skinny chicken legs! Also normal time for recovery and when can go back to normal activities. Chows symptoms started on Sunday. Appreciate advice and help. Thanks.
Mr. Chow catch covid, so Chow wonder if okay to exercise? Chow look at himself and like lean look. Chow notice more ab definition. But Chow upset at his legs! Chow have hard time with his legs. Skinny chicken legs! Also normal time for recovery and when can go back to normal activities. Chows symptoms started on Sunday. Appreciate advice and help. Thanks.Mr. Chow.
Johnny 14 and hi pickle pretty must much says it all, with creditability IMHO.
I had it, some of my symptoms was slight fever and a little fatigue, was like a cold but it was more like a dry cough, no mucus came out. But I worked out when I had it just didn't go as hard. So if you feel like working out I would. Take care Mr Chow.
Mr. Chow catch covid, so Chow wonder if okay to exercise? Chow look at himself and like lean look. Chow notice more ab definition. But Chow upset at his legs! Chow have hard time with his legs. Skinny chicken legs! Also normal time for recovery and when can go back to normal activities. Chows symptoms started on Sunday. Appreciate advice and help. Thanks.
Stinkfinga
07-15-22, 06:56
I had it, some of my symptoms was slight fever and a little fatigue, was like a cold but it was more like a dry cough, no mucus came out. But I worked out when I had it just didn't go as hard. So if you feel like working out I would. Take care Mr Chow.Chow try barbarianbody work out for legs on YT. Ho, Chow dying after 5 minutes! Chow maybe try next week. Thanks Mr. Toftt.
Param Ahmad
02-13-24, 09:19
If you still believe there was a COVID-19 pandemic or that COVID-19 "vaccination" is or was a good idea (as the CDC still claims), this statement by a group in the Union of South Africa will open your eyes:
PANDA statement on COVID-19 "vaccines":
https://pandata.org/covid-vaccines/
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