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SN: Cymanta.
I have her contact info and even the address to her Apartment Building.
She set up a meeting then started making excuses as to how I should cashapp her $40 for train Fare / Hat and mittens.
My instincts say she is her scam.
DM me if you have info, or you want to TOFTT.
Great tips. I follow all except #1. Why ignore new profiles? I have had good luck getting them to meet before they get jaded with all the messages and going GPS etc. If they still linger after about a month, either they are one and done type, something wrong with them or just unsure of what they are doing. Genuine SB's find daddies and leave off site quickly. May be I am missing something?
Play Safe.
Dr. S.
Place has been really quiet lately, guess I am not sure if everyone is too busy with their arrangements or just given up LOL.
After one of my arrangements ended abruptly last summer, I stumbled into a situation that was much better than I deserve. Unfortunately, she had some family issues come up recently and dealing with those, school and work she decided she needed a break. Yet to be determined if it is temporary or permanent. Maybe I will post more on that relationship later, so there is some positive reports on here.
Thought I would share some of my thoughts on the current status of SA, not that anyone necessarily cares, but you never know. Overall, I think things have improved over the last 6-9 months or maybe I have gotten better at weeding out the new forms of BS. Don't get me wrong, I think the majority of profiles are waste of time, but believe there are more hidden gems if you can find them.
Just for fun, here are few things I look for I profiles and how I decide who to contact. I make a lot of assumptions based on passed experience. Although there are always exceptions to these and will occasionally take a chance if I am really interested in someone.
1. I ignore new profiles. The exception to this is if they say something about being on before and just got back on after arrangement ended. If I am interested in them I will favorite and see if they are still around in 4-6 weeks. Usually they are not.
2. A I look for something reference to Minneapolis / Minnesota in there profile or photo that was obviously taken locally. Too many of these woman are not local and just pick a random location to sell photos or want online arrangement.
2. B. Kind of goes along with 2. A, if their profile just contains a lot of flowery mumbo jumbo without any specific about them or what they are looking for I will pass.
3. If they refer to themselves as Princess I will pass.
4. If they want an investor I will pass.
5. If they have a picture in in front of an expensive car I will pass.
6. If they have a picture on a yacht I will pass.
7. If they say they "know their worth" I will pass.
8, If they want a mentor (means no sex) I will pass.
9. If they only have head shots for photos, they are fat. It necessary a pass, but good to have realistic expectations.
10. Posting Myers Briggs results, not a pass but why? I would prefer to know their favorite sexual positions.
I have a few more, but will start with these. Please feel free to share other thoughts.
Great tips. I follow all except #1. Why ignore new profiles? I have had good luck getting them to meet before they get jaded with all the messages and going GPS etc. If they still linger after about a month, either they are one and done type, something wrong with them or just unsure of what they are doing. Genuine SB's find daddies and leave off site quickly. May be I am missing something?
Play Safe.
Dr. S.For me it is more a matter of saving time. So many of the new one's are fake or just running some type of scam and quickly disappear. Obviously, there are some legitimate ones in there, but for me it just seems more work trying to figure out which are real.
Here is another one using fake photos. Conversation was good and seemed legit, but photos are of an Instagram model. She has either blocked me for calling her out on it or deleted her profile. Links below.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5143c7c1-6b7c-40dd-934f-bf5d4be690cb
https://www.instagram.com/susievie/?hl=en
HooliganMike23
02-03-22, 14:28
Here is another one using fake photos. Conversation was good and seemed legit, but photos are of an Instagram model. She has either blocked me for calling her out on it or deleted her profile. Links below.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5143c7c1-6b7c-40dd-934f-bf5d4be690cb
https://www.instagram.com/susievie/?hl=enShe blocked you because I can see her profile. Some of these girls are so dumb and think that most guys won't do an image search.
Traveling Hottie, has informed me that her prices have gone up.
3 $ only includes one quick pop, and her bad attitude.
I've been doing more ME massage girls. A lot of hot chicks there and I know I'll be nutting at the end. On SA and SB it's been a lot of work and not a lot of payout. Too many GPS etc. Very few can host too.
But I did get together with TravellimgHottie. And she is hot and could host. It was weird though going to her place which she has with her BF apparently. She says he doesn't fuck because of emotional trauma in the past so she does this because she needs dick, likes to fuck and pays some bills. I had more of a problem that she is looking to meet more than I can. Only saw her once but that was pretty decent. It's just the vibe of going at her in some dudes bed and also wondering if he might come home.
She's texting me recently to see if I'm up for a meet. She has a great body and well above average face, likes to go at it, but I'm not sure. She also has a bit of an odd affect that is a little weird. I'm still looking, so if you have any good leads, let me know.
ParkingGuy
02-07-22, 00:15
Place has been really quiet lately, guess I am not sure if everyone is too busy with their arrangements or just given up LOL.
After one of my arrangements ended abruptly last summer, I stumbled into a situation that was much better than I deserve. Unfortunately, she had some family issues come up recently and dealing with those, school and work she decided she needed a break. Yet to be determined if it is temporary or permanent. Maybe I will post more on that relationship later, so there is some positive reports on here.
Thought I would share some of my thoughts on the current status of SA, not that anyone necessarily cares, but you never know. Overall, I think things have improved over the last 6-9 months or maybe I have gotten better at weeding out the new forms of BS. Don't get me wrong, I think the majority of profiles are waste of time, but believe there are more hidden gems if you can find them.
Just for fun, here are few things I look for I profiles and how I decide who to contact. I make a lot of assumptions based on passed experience. Although there are always exceptions to these and will occasionally take a chance if I am really interested in someone.
1. I ignore new profiles. The exception to this is if they say something about being on before and just got back on after arrangement ended. If I am interested in them I will favorite and see if they are still around in 4-6 weeks. Usually they are not.
2. A I look for something reference to Minneapolis / Minnesota in there profile or photo that was obviously taken locally. Too many of these woman are not local and just pick a random location to sell photos or want online arrangement.
2. B. Kind of goes along with 2. A, if their profile just contains a lot of flowery mumbo jumbo without any specific about them or what they are looking for I will pass.
3. If they refer to themselves as Princess I will pass.Great information and insights. One of my biggest frustrations is the lack of responses to messages. When I find a profile I like, I read it carefully. When I write my message, I try to include things the SB mentioned. I'm just trying to connect and show that I actually read their profile. While things can be streaky, the response rate is rather low. Maybe 10%. It's rather frustrating to put time and effort into messages and get nothing back. I suppose that's just how the sugar bowl works. When I send a message, I also provide access to my pics. Maybe that's the problem. They don't like my pics. LOL. It's impossible to know why they don't respond. Maybe they didn't like what you wrote. Maybe they were never serious to begin with. It's still annoying.
PhillipPlein
02-07-22, 11:11
It goes without saying but it definitely helps if you're more on the attractive side. At the end of the day money is money for some of these women but I've found after numerous discussions that some of the more attractive SBs just don't have it in them to sleep with a man double their age. The older gentlemen that are able to score really attractive SBs are throwing thousands at these women and unlimited shopping sprees. At least that's what I've been hearing after being apart of this scene for a few years.
Great information and insights. One of my biggest frustrations is the lack of responses to messages. When I find a profile I like, I read it carefully. When I write my message, I try to include things the SB mentioned. I'm just trying to connect and show that I actually read their profile. While things can be streaky, the response rate is rather low. Maybe 10%. It's rather frustrating to put time and effort into messages and get nothing back. I suppose that's just how the sugar bowl works. When I send a message, I also provide access to my pics. Maybe that's the problem. They don't like my pics. LOL. It's impossible to know why they don't respond. Maybe they didn't like what you wrote. Maybe they were never serious to begin with. It's still annoying.
Member #6100
02-08-22, 12:48
It goes without saying but it definitely helps if you're more on the attractive side. At the end of the day money is money for some of these women but I've found after numerous discussions that some of the more attractive SBs just don't have it in them to sleep with a man double their age. The older gentlemen that are able to score really attractive SBs are throwing thousands at these women and unlimited shopping sprees. At least that's what I've been hearing after being apart of this scene for a few years.Yes, some sugar babies are hesitant to sleep with guys twice their age. But I don't think that is a major contributor to why sugar babies are flakey and unresponsive. And yes a 10 percent response rate is normal. Given my 5 years of sugar dating experience, this is what I think. 90 percent of the sugar baby profiles represent scammers and attention seekers that have no intent to meet. And over 50 percent of the profiles are inactive after a week or two. Now to the 10 percent that responds. Let's assume you get 10 babies to reply on the site. Maybe you will text with three of them, and two of those three will ghost you before you ever meet. And after you have dated a sugar baby a few times they will often ghost you. Why? There are many reasons, for most, I think their life circumstances and their mental health are unstable. I have experimented with various fake pictures. Older, younger, attractive, average, etc. Honestly, the pictures don't seem to impact the response rate. And yes my own pic is fairly attractive IMHO.
PhillipPlein
02-09-22, 02:08
Oh I agree, this is scene is a numbers game and it only works if you cast a wide wide net. It's incredibly time consuming but it can be worth it when you find diamonds in the rough. I do think it becomes exponentially easier to lay with an attractive SB if you are somewhat attractive, which was my point. If you're a older gentlemen that doesn't have a significant amount of wealth or attractive features it will be difficult to land a 8+ at least that's the evidence I've gather over the years talking to these women.
Yes, some sugar babies are hesitant to sleep with guys twice their age. But I don't think that is a major contributor to why sugar babies are flakey and unresponsive. And yes a 10 percent response rate is normal. Given my 5 years of sugar dating experience, this is what I think. 90 percent of the sugar baby profiles represent scammers and attention seekers that have no intent to meet. And over 50 percent of the profiles are inactive after a week or two. Now to the 10 percent that responds. Let's assume you get 10 babies to reply on the site. Maybe you will text with three of them, and two of those three will ghost you before you ever meet. And after you have dated a sugar baby a few times they will often ghost you. Why? There are many reasons, for most, I think their life circumstances and their mental health are unstable. I have experimented with various fake pictures. Older, younger, attractive, average, etc. Honestly, the pictures don't seem to impact the response rate. And yes my own pic is fairly attractive IMHO.
Oh I agree, this is scene is a numbers game and it only works if you cast a wide wide net. It's incredibly time consuming but it can be worth it when you find diamonds in the rough. I do think it becomes exponentially easier to lay with an attractive SB if you are somewhat attractive, which was my point. If you're a older gentlemen that doesn't have a significant amount of wealth or attractive features it will be difficult to land a 8+ at least that's the evidence I've gather over the years talking to these women.Without a doubt if you are unattractive and poor, you probably need to keep your expectations low LOL. I think of myself pretty average in looks and have have had a number of longer term (6 months or more) with very attractive 8+ 19-22 yr olds. I think there are number of woman on the site that are concerned about your age, but there are many who once you meet them they don't really care. In some cases, I am older than their parents and they are younger than my kids, but it still works. It does help if you work to build a relationship with them that is about more than just about sex.
We all would love to go back to the days were 200-300 was sufficient to satisfy 95% of the woman on the site, but believe those days are gone. My most recent arrangement was with a 21 yr old who is a 9+ on anyone's scale and have no idea why she ever responded to my message on SA. When we meet for drinks, out conversation about allowance went like this:
Me: My last arrangement we did ppm since we didn't meet on regular schedule and I usually gave her 350-400. Was your last arrangement monthly or ppm?
Her: He gave me money monthly.
Me: I have had some bad experiences with trying to do a monthly allowance in the past, would you be ok starting ppm and after we get to know each other we can talk about monthly.
Her: I think that is a good idea and don't have any issues ppm to start.
Me: How much did he give you per month?
Her: $2,000.
Me: How often did you meet up?
Her: Usually every week, unless one of us was out of town.
So, in a round about way she just told me she is okay with $500 per meeting. While that is still a lot, it is a better starting point than 600-800 that you hear from a lot of the more attractive woman. Won't say where we ended up for our final agreement other than to say it was mostly one sided in her favor from there on out and I don't have any regrets.
Just one other thought for today. Occasionally, I see posts where guys say they mainly stay with more average looking girls since they don't have an attitude and are more fun and I understand that strategy. But don't be afraid to swing for the fences once in a while with hotter and / or younger woman. Yes, many of them are entitled bitches but are easy to weed out quickly by reading their profile or initial conversations. The reality is the attractive woman love sex just as much as the average ones do.
Member #6100
02-09-22, 20:44
I can't host and I find hotels to be less than ideal for several reasons. They remind me of high-stress business trips. It's annoying and stressful to have to check in when with a sugar baby. Yes, I have tried to do the hotels that let you skip the check-in desk and let you use your phone to unlock the room door. But sometimes they don't send me the virtual key in time so I still end up at the desk. Then there is the cost. Prices have increased in the past year or two.
Have any of your daddies found a better solution?.
I can't host and I find hotels to be less than ideal for several reasons. They remind me of high-stress business trips. It's annoying and stressful to have to check in when with a sugar baby. Yes, I have tried to do the hotels that let you skip the check-in desk and let you use your phone to unlock the room door. But sometimes they don't send me the virtual key in time so I still end up at the desk. Then there is the cost. Prices have increased in the past year or two.
Have any of your daddies found a better solution?.I do not really think there are alternatives to hotels if they cannot host either, although I have used my office and car few times in a pinch. I know there was some discussion a while back about getting a shared apartment, which I believe has been done in some places. There are drawbacks to that as well and think you would really need to trust the people you that shared the apartment.
In one arrangement, she was reluctant to have someone at her apartment, so I offered to give her the money I would spend on the hotel in addition to the allowance. Didn't save any money, but made things easier and we were both happy.
I have not really had any issues with hotels over the years, but las summer a desk clerk made things difficult for me. Kind of long story, but might be interesting or it might not LOL I would also be curious to hear how others might have handle the situation.
I mentioned in a previous post about someone I meet last summer. We had agreed to meet for drinks and I suggested one of my go to places from when I worked DT Minneapolis. We are going to meet at 5:00 on a Monday and I get there little early only to find they are not open on Mondays (assume it is a Covid thing). So, I am in a little bit of panic and message here the place closed. She responds saying she just parked and will be there in a minute.
She shows up in a crop top and tight cut off shorts and I about fell over when I saw her, even better than her pictures which are outstanding. We end up walking about a couple blocks to nearby place and had a good discussion, but I am thinking that the original place being closed is strike one against me.
We agree to move forward with an arrangement She says she is busy all week but might be available next weekend and will let me know later in the week. Even though we got along very well, almost felt like this might be a little bite of brush off and might never hear from her again.
I offer to walk her to her car, and she accepts. While we are waking down Nicollet Mall, I look up and see a police car with it lights on driving down the sidewalk straight towards us. They are chasing some young fellow and suddenly there are police cars everywhere and we are on the edge of swarm of officers arresting this guy, so we turn around and take a different route. So, that really felt like strike two against me and didn't think things were going my way. We did have a nice make out session at here car, so did feel a glimmer of hope.
She messaged me a few times during the week and on Friday she says Sunday afternoon might work. We agree to meet at 2:00. I confirmed again with her on Sunday morning and made the hotel arrangements. I get to the hotel at around 1:30 and go to check-in and the clerk says check-in time is not until 3:00 so he will not check me in. I have had this happen a couple times in the past where there were not any rooms ready, but this was not the case. I mean there were only like 8 cars in the parking lot, so they were not busy. I asked him to confirm that there were no rooms ready and he said that it was not due to no rooms being ready just that I would need to come back at check-in time which is 3. I thought about raising a stink, but really try to keep a low profile and just walked out.
When I got to my car, I send her a message saying they won't let me check-in until 3:00 and see if she is ok moving it back an hour. She says that she had just finished getting ready and was about to head out, so would prefer not to wait until 3:00 since she has a family dinner later.
At this point, I am feeling like I am on the verge of strike 3 and never seeing her again. So, I go into a hotel right next store and say I will take a room if I check in now. They saw no problem and I take the room without asking the price, which ended up being double the cost of my Priceline room next door that I had already paid for in advance.
In the end everything worked out and we had a great 6 months together. Just wondering what others would have done in that situation. Raise a stink at the first hotel, call it off and try to reschedule or get another room like I did?
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220214005266/en/
Member #6100
02-20-22, 16:04
I do not really think there are alternatives to hotels if they cannot host either, although I have used my office and car few times in a pinch. I know there was some discussion a while back about getting a shared apartment, which I believe has been done in some places. There are drawbacks to that as well and think you would really need to trust the people you that shared the apartment.
In one arrangement, she was reluctant to have someone at her apartment, so I offered to give her the money I would spend on the hotel in addition to the allowance. Didn't save any money, but made things easier and we were both happy.
I have not really had any issues with hotels over the years, but las summer a desk clerk made things difficult for me. Kind of long story, but might be interesting or it might not LOL I would also be curious to hear how others might have handle the situation.
I mentioned in a previous post about someone I meet last summer. We had agreed to meet for drinks and I suggested one of my go to places from when I worked DT Minneapolis. We are going to meet at 5:00 on a Monday and I get there little early only to find they are not open on Mondays (assume it is a Covid thing). So, I am in a little bit of panic and message here the place closed. She responds saying she just parked and will be there in a minute.
She shows up in a crop top and tight cut off shorts and I about fell over when I saw her, even better than her pictures which are outstanding. We end up walking about a couple blocks to nearby place and had a good discussion, but I am thinking that the original place being closed is strike one against me.
We agree to move forward with an arrangement She says she is busy all week but might be available next weekend and will let me know later in the week. Even though we got along very well, almost felt like this might be a little bite of brush off and might never hear from her again.
I offer to walk her to her car, and she accepts. While we are waking down Nicollet Mall, I look up and see a police car with it lights on driving down the sidewalk straight towards us. They are chasing some young fellow and suddenly there are police cars everywhere and we are on the edge of swarm of officers arresting this guy, so we turn around and take a different route. So, that really felt like strike two against me and didn't think things were going my way. We did have a nice make out session at here car, so did feel a glimmer of hope.
She messaged me a few times during the week and on Friday she says Sunday afternoon might work. We agree to meet at 2:00. I confirmed again with her on Sunday morning and made the hotel arrangements. I get to the hotel at around 1:30 and go to check-in and the clerk says check-in time is not until 3:00 so he will not check me in. I have had this happen a couple times in the past where there were not any rooms ready, but this was not the case. I mean there were only like 8 cars in the parking lot, so they were not busy. I asked him to confirm that there were no rooms ready and he said that it was not due to no rooms being ready just that I would need to come back at check-in time which is 3. I thought about raising a stink, but really try to keep a low profile and just walked out.
When I got to my car, I send her a message saying they won't let me check-in until 3:00 and see if she is ok moving it back an hour. She says that she had just finished getting ready and was about to head out, so would prefer not to wait until 3:00 since she has a family dinner later.
At this point, I am feeling like I am on the verge of strike 3 and never seeing her again. So, I go into a hotel right next store and say I will take a room if I check in now. They saw no problem and I take the room without asking the price, which ended up being double the cost of my Priceline room next door that I had already paid for in advance.
In the end everything worked out and we had a great 6 months together. Just wondering what others would have done in that situation. Raise a stink at the first hotel, call it off and try to reschedule or get another room like I did?I would have done what you did. And yes its stressful when you want to check in and they say wait until 3 PM.
Member #6100
02-20-22, 16:12
https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20220214005266/en/Rest assured this rebranding was purely a business decision. Most likely an attempt to cleanse the reptuation of the website to avoid future litigation. Note that Instagram is getting sued for their content and treatment of young women. If you look at the new home page, I can't see how this is going to drive more paying sugar daddies to the site. To me it looks like a fresh coat of paint on what will continue to be a sugar dating site.
WiseTraveler
02-22-22, 14:39
I can't host and I find hotels to be less than ideal for several reasons. They remind me of high-stress business trips. It's annoying and stressful to have to check in when with a sugar baby. Yes, I have tried to do the hotels that let you skip the check-in desk and let you use your phone to unlock the room door. But sometimes they don't send me the virtual key in time so I still end up at the desk. Then there is the cost. Prices have increased in the past year or two.
Have any of your daddies found a better solution?.I have a separate AirBnB profile I've used when traveling though there's no reason I couldn't set something up here. Ideally, you find someone who is open to short-term and even last minute bookings. The first time you have to just try it and see if the host is open to texting. If it goes well, you can broach booking directly with him instead of the site and see if he's open to shorter term / more flexible arrangements. Generally, look for single male hosts. I found one immediately in Dallas that served me well but had a tougher time in Phoenix and Florida though did find some eventually.
Other tips:
Check availability and places with fewer reviewers. If there are few reservations, they may not be that serious about hosting and would welcome the extra cheddar.
Don't talk about bringing different women to the place. You could be reported by a puritan, pearl-clutching do gooder. If you have to give a reason, share you are seeing someone and need a quiet, conveniently located place and since she sometimes works odd hours, hotels are challenging with 3 pm /11 am check-in / out.
Double-check 'entire place to self' options. Sometimes they are backyard cottages / mother-in-law houses or attached units. May still be fine but once the hosts were kind of nosey / lonely and tried to introduce themselves to each person I was bringing over. Awkward.
Negotiate down. You could offer to clean the place (not something I'd be interested in but.) for a reduced rate. Swap in new sheets, wipe down bathroom, done.
Hipcamp can work in warmer times but again, be careful. You have to use your real name to book (upload I'd, credit card). It's pretty much renting a space in someone's backyard or farm for $20-40/ night so if you have 'glamping' equipment, it can work. Avoid if you or your partner are loud. Also check on water, electricity, bathroom, shower options. I use ones where I / we can use an indoor bathroom or shower as needed.
Aafakljgadkg
02-23-22, 12:15
https://members.seeking.com/member/3a146b45-35f4-4654-9b38-d189845f35e4
Anyone got intel on this or photo you can share?
Member #6100
03-01-22, 20:06
https://members.seeking.com/member/3a146b45-35f4-4654-9b38-d189845f35e4
Anyone got intel on this or photo you can share?That profile is no longer available.
Seeking SN: Saro_21.
She texted me amazingly sexy pictures.
She is promising 1 hr of entertainment (No Sex) for a $2. 5 at her apartment in Saint Louis Park.
If you are interested in TOFTT, and reporting back, please DM me for her Contact info.
PhillipPlein
03-02-22, 17:44
She is sexy and real, but it wasn't worth it. We settled on 1.5 for a HJ and lapdance but it was meh. Save your money IMO.
Seeking SN: Saro_21.
She texted me amazingly sexy pictures.
She is promising 1 hr of entertainment (No Sex) for a $2. 5 at her apartment in Saint Louis Park.
If you are interested in TOFTT, and reporting back, please DM me for her Contact info.
It's been a while, but I'm back in the sugar market.
Over the past few months, I've been working both SA and Secret Benefits in search of a new long-term SB but have thus far come up empty. Any solid leads out there? I'm open to anyone meeting the following criteria.
Must haves: Bareback, psychologically stable.
Hard Disqualifiers: Excess weight (the thinner / fitter the better), baby damage, bolt-ons.
Soft Preferences (in rank order): College student / educated, no to minimal ink, 5'7" or taller, natural body hair.
In trade, I have intel on the following SBs I've not mentioned before. Some profiles may be inactive, but I list them as a few on this roster have been on and off over time. It's not an exhaustive list, but it is representative of the women I typically go for, and it includes those I think might be a good fit for someone else.
Met and dox'd:
Afirmgrasp - https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/28b4099e-c2ba-4834-9133-07edf62af48c.
FastAndTheCurious23 - https://members.seeking.com/member/8285f5d6-81c0-4435-9aa5-94d5400ca157.
BumbleKiss - https://members.seeking.com/member/fcf2162e-1fa1-4f62-a2a0-528fe0edfb1e.
Luxeluddite - https://members.seeking.com/member/2d3950d2-199e-4f2e-b53c-44b0aa03b0f1.
Met, not dox'd:
BabyAugust - https://members.seeking.com/member/d6e8b5fc-bcf4-48dd-b7bb-2861d9f1e3a4.
Ireallylikestartrek - https://members.seeking.com/member/5c68a298-c6fb-4032-9b8d-6a8dc3609881.
Written and dox'd:
Hullabaloo - https://members.seeking.com/member/c3ef704c-5865-4619-a9de-20194507b23b.
Yourgirl - https://members.seeking.com/member/b4eec78c-92b0-4db3-9556-a39de699d801.
SweetAngel - https://members.seeking.com/member/1d1c8dfd-57b1-476e-b026-6e130ca29e8e.
Kmaexox - https://members.seeking.com/member/03dad10d-d426-4494-ad9b-6a26a806b727.
BraveDame - https://members.seeking.com/member/840d9e35-a7f9-4378-a0ef-fcd90598ceb9.
Written, found links to other sites:
Greenbaby514 - https://members.seeking.com/member/cd6a5dc5-c57d-4b20-9082-370746121e8b.
WiseTraveler
03-21-22, 19:29
Met and dox'd:.I don't have options right now but will keep your criteria in mind.
What do you mean by "dox'd"? The only usage I'm aware of means to publicly out someone's identity against their wishes or without their consent. Do you more mean you checked their info and matched it to a real name / verified they're legit?
HooliganMike23
03-21-22, 22:20
I don't have options right now but will keep your criteria in mind.
What do you mean by "dox'd"? The only usage I'm aware of means to publicly out someone's identity against their wishes or without their consent. Do you more mean you checked their info and matched it to a real name / verified they're legit?I was wondering the same thing.
Spaniard21
03-22-22, 15:02
I don't have options right now but will keep your criteria in mind.
What do you mean by "dox'd"? The only usage I'm aware of means to publicly out someone's identity against their wishes or without their consent. Do you more mean you checked their info and matched it to a real name / verified they're legit?I'm pretty sure he means "blocked" or ignored. Some of the ones he's posted, I've done the same, I've blocked them because their profiles were either BS or a scam.
Member #6100
03-22-22, 17:38
It's been a while, but I'm back in the sugar market.
Over the past few months, I've been working both SA and Secret Benefits in search of a new long-term SB but have thus far come up empty. Any solid leads out there? I'm open to anyone meeting the following criteria.
Must haves: Bareback, psychologically stable.
Hard Disqualifiers: Excess weight (the thinner / fitter the better), baby damage, bolt-ons.
Soft Preferences (in rank order): College student / educated, no to minimal ink, 5'7" or taller, natural body hair.
In trade, I have intel on the following SBs I've not mentioned before. Some profiles may be inactive, but I list them as a few on this roster have been on and off over time. It's not an exhaustive list, but it is representative of the women I typically go for, and it includes those I think might be a good fit for someone else. Interesting that you mentioned being psychologically stable. That indeed is not easy to find. I think the most stable sugar babies happen to be foreign college students.
I likely misused the term -- I meant more like "I'd'd" in that I determined their real name, social media presence, etc. I wouldn't out anyone publicly. Thank you for the correction on that.
My main goal in I'd'ing women is to determine how safe of a fuck they are -- my two main concerns being STD status and birth control. I probably mentioned this before but on the whole, this an area where college students and college-educated women have an edge over the some / no college crowd IMO. Women pursuing a four-year degree generally have a good reason not to get pregnant, and those who made it through college are more likely to be smart and disciplined enough to use birth control. They're also at objectively lower risk for harboring STDs. (Of course there are plenty of exceptions but without a referral, I like to play the numbers.) If I can validate education and employment status outside the site, I feel much better about going bareback with them when we meet.
I'm pretty sure he means "blocked" or ignored. Some of the ones he's posted, I've done the same, I've blocked them because their profiles were either BS or a scam.
The general quality of SBs has declined alot over the past 5 years or so. Back in 2015 there were alot of decent middle class girls on there, some upper middle class depending on your area.
All SA is now is backpage with a cover charge.
Agreed. As late as the fall of '19, I had an 8.5, a 9 and a 10 in regular rotation. The past year has been particularly challenging in my experience. Could be the rise of OF providing easy money from behind the glass, as others have mentioned. Any chance that at least some traditional sugar activity is moving to another platform?
The general quality of SBs has declined alot over the past 5 years or so. Back in 2015 there were alot of decent middle class girls on there, some upper middle class depending on your area.
All SA is now is backpage with a cover charge.
Member #6100
03-28-22, 19:29
Agreed. As late as the fall of '19, I had an 8.5, a 9 and a 10 in regular rotation. The past year has been particularly challenging in my experience. Could be the rise of OF providing easy money from behind the glass, as others have mentioned. Any chance that at least some traditional sugar activity is moving to another platform?I agree that its become more difficult over the past three to five years. But I had a hot streak on Seeking from November 2021 to Feb 2022 where I met in person five babies and they all wanted long-term arrangements with me. Their PPM allowance request ranged from "its up to me" to as high as 600, averaging 400. I decided to stop meeting with two of the babies because I look for a certain vibe along with the sex. Of the remaining three. Two of three are often slow to reply to texts, are emotionally unstable, and seem to go hot and cold. One is reliable and emotionally stable and she is my favorite.
I had to send many messages on Seeking to find these ladies. I would say that if I send 100 messages I end up meeting in person 3 ladies. So it's a numbers game but of course, it's also about how you communicate on the site.
SA Games happening again.
SN: Exploringblonde.
Comes across as an Entitled Brat.
DM me for her contact info.
NerdyGuy12
03-31-22, 09:27
Have a link?
SA Games happening again.
SN: Exploringblonde.
Comes across as an Entitled Brat.
DM me for her contact info.
Abcxyz1234
03-31-22, 20:02
The past year has been particularly challenging in my experience. Could be the rise of OF providing easy money from behind the glass, as others have mentioned. This.
But if you put in the effort you can still find some beautiful, sexy, horny girls. The key is you have to spend time at it and you have to try to get to know them. Not just "how much for hh"? But message and TALK to them. See if you would get along with them as a person, don't just go to the finish line. Meet up, so that you aren't a creep THEN bang um like the filthy ****** they want to be. Seriously. Just be a nice guy and you can still find girls that WANT you to have fun with them. Typically a month membership might get me a dozen numbers and 2-3 meetups that may or may not continue.
SA Games happening again.
SN: Exploringblonde.
Comes across as an Entitled Brat.
DM me for her contact info.I have seen her profile before and think there are a few red flags that clearly stand out, in addition to her being average at best as far as her looks. First is she says right in her profile that she wants a monthly allowance, right there is enough reason for me to pass.
Second is she says " Always on the look out for new and exciting: friendships, mentorship, and maybe even more" I already have plenty of friends, so not necessarily what I am looking for and there should not be a maybe in front of the even more.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5b6293fa-ad9b-4fc6-9e81-747a011d8f61
This.
But if you put in the effort you can still find some beautiful, sexy, horny girls. The key is you have to spend time at it and you have to try to get to know them. Not just "how much for hh"? But message and TALK to them. See if you would get along with them as a person, don't just go to the finish line. Meet up, so that you aren't a creep THEN bang um like the filthy ****** they want to be. Seriously. Just be a nice guy and you can still find girls that WANT you to have fun with them. Typically a month membership might get me a dozen numbers and 2-3 meetups that may or may not continue.Absolutely agree with this!
Anyone have suggestions on how to pay for a premium membership on Seeking anonymously? Tried a vanilla gift card and it's not being accepted.
Member #6100
04-03-22, 23:06
Anyone have suggestions on how to pay for a premium membership on Seeking anonymously? Tried a vanilla gift card and it's not being accepted.I had luck using the Google Seeking app and then using Google's payment system for the Seeking membership. I downloaded a free Android Emulator called Bluestacks so I can run the Seeking Android app on my PC.
Sorry guys, I cannot provide links cause my burner phone is very inconvenient.
SN: HaileeBaby69.
Wants to meet at a coffee shop and then have Car fun.
Not my style.
DM me for her contact info.
Sorry guys, I cannot provide links cause my burner phone is very inconvenient.
SN: HaileeBaby69.
Wants to meet at a coffee shop and then have Car fun.
Not my style.
DM me for her contact info.https://members.seeking.com/member/271314ad-9555-4c8e-8f8f-ec1068ef143b
I agree that its become more difficult over the past three to five years. But I had a hot streak on Seeking from November 2021 to Feb 2022 where I met in person five babies and they all wanted long-term arrangements with me. Their PPM allowance request ranged from "its up to me" to as high as 600, averaging 400. I decided to stop meeting with two of the babies because I look for a certain vibe along with the sex. Of the remaining three. Two of three are often slow to reply to texts, are emotionally unstable, and seem to go hot and cold. One is reliable and emotionally stable and she is my favorite.
I had to send many messages on Seeking to find these ladies. I would say that if I send 100 messages I end up meeting in person 3 ladies. So it's a numbers game but of course, it's also about how you communicate on the site.Sadly in a distance of 100 mile from MSP, there are not even a 100 decent girls / woman I can message, that have been active in the past week.
Lots of broke ass, online only, scammers or drama queens I just end up blocking. I might have to expand my distance, or end up empty handed on this 1 month run.
ElloMuppet
04-09-22, 21:41
Any info on Rosy, I think I saw her advertise on tryst.
https://members.seeking.com/member/88442511-1a17-4633-b98f-610d12203046
Rejoined SA. Must be needing members. I have been getting 20% off adds all the time. Pretty poor selection in my area. Same retreads and occasional new member that is on a day to a week and never logs on again.
It was I know my worth. Now have been getting "I want to be taken care of. " WTF is that? Do they want someone to pay for everything?
Temptingmermaid.
Might be a scammer only had one profile pic. Messaged her a bit, then got blocked. Wanted 1200 monthly not sure if this was and / or 400 weekly. Blocked when I asked to clarify.
https://members.seeking.com/member/9af1dec4-bed1-4da5-87b7-7ed194d11b24
Wisetemptress.
Would like a monthly allowance and lots of travel. Pass.
https://members.seeking.com/member/5c5b3c51-621d-4af4-9f15-e2394cb195a2
Xoxosi.
Profile says MN. When asked, she is 4 hours west of Fargo.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b1d257f0-cc66-408e-b447-3efebe0dc238
Luckylucy21.
When asked what she is looking for? Wants to be taken care of. I asked what she meant by that, has not responded, but also has not logged in since.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d667c0df-6627-4150-baa2-229fc966672a
Babynessa.
Best one so far. When asked what she is looking for? Quote: I'm only looking for digital arrangements. Like sexual fting for money, and me being here for you and keeping you company for a weekly / "daily" allowance.
I responded, Thanks, not interested that. Good luck. (I forgot to put a space between interested and in).
She responded: learn how to spell.
I sent back. "LOL. I missed a space. Learn how to capitalize sentences. Get a real job. ".
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL She was replying but I blocked her. So bitter. Can't handle that I have no interest in such a great deal of an arrangement. A weekly and daily allowance. GTFO. If any you can't find her in search and need more details so you can set something up with her, I can give you a few more details that may aid in your search. Get your dictionary out before you contact her though. Otherwise, I will be taking some online spelling courses.
Best of luck out there.
Seeking SN: InnocentLover.
She wants to meet at her apartment in Bloomington.
Claims she is new, but in text conversations she uses professional terms.
And the big give way was "My friend told me, I should not do. ".
DM me if you want to TOFTT with this player.
PhillipPlein
04-12-22, 14:08
I've been offered 33% off SA memberships so it's clear they're looking to increase sales due to lack of memberships. The selections in MN are so lackluster right now, I wouldn't recommend signing up.
Seeking SN: InnocentLover.
She wants to meet at her apartment in Bloomington.
Claims she is new, but in text conversations she uses professional terms.
And the big give way was "My friend told me, I should not do. ".
DM me if you want to TOFTT with this player.
Coyote7033
04-16-22, 09:53
Coming to milwaukee and contacted me, looking for some fun while she is in town, looking for $500 anyone know anything about her? Been texting and DAM the pictures. Looks like fun but a little steep.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a64fbd5a-497f-4a9e-b20f-ea49e0109bac
Coming to milwaukee and contacted me, looking for some fun while she is in town, looking for $500 anyone know anything about her? Been texting and DAM the pictures. Looks like fun but a little steep.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a64fbd5a-497f-4a9e-b20f-ea49e0109bacAfter a bit of digging: She is a professional, https://www.models-world.com/nevada/jasminelv/.
Travelingsurfr
04-17-22, 17:23
How were you able to dig out that pro?
After a bit of digging: She is a professional, https://www.models-world.com/nevada/jasminelv/.
Travelingsurfr
04-17-22, 17:29
I can confirm she is a total pro. She is already claiming she is in Chicago.
After a bit of digging: She is a professional, https://www.models-world.com/nevada/jasminelv/.
Does anyone have any intel on or experience with LibraCutie? It's a new profile, but she looks so familiar and I can't quite place it.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f68ce301-c747-455b-9e40-e448405436ac
FunGuySeattle
04-18-22, 12:31
I was trying to set something up with AJ but seem to have lost her # and am locked out of my account. Anyone that could hook me up with it again or a review would be much appreciated.
Does anyone have any intel on or experience with LibraCutie? It's a new profile, but she looks so familiar and I can't quite place it.
https://members.seeking.com/member/f68ce301-c747-455b-9e40-e448405436acShe has an escort profile: https://www.69butterfly.com/escorts/carnaughty/ and https://chicagoerotic.com/all-chicago-escorts/carnaughty/.
How were you able to dig out that pro?Nothing special. I did an image search on cropped areas of the pictures available on her SA profile, which led to an expired ad with name. The name connected to the escort profile.
Interesting. There appear old and out of use. Also, she's using a different number now.
She has an escort profile: https://www.69butterfly.com/escorts/carnaughty/ and https://chicagoerotic.com/all-chicago-escorts/carnaughty/.
Her new Seeking SN=LovingAngel.
Same bad attitude and unreliability.
Traveling Hottie, has informed me that her prices have gone up.
3 $ only includes one quick pop, and her bad attitude.
Seeking SN: SexySmartgal.
It would normally be 400/ hr but I could do 700 $ for 2 hrs.
Yes, she sounds very new. Smh.
Texting with this game player is fun.
She is always too busy to meet in person. But keeps mentioning that she is looking for something financially mutually beneficial.
QUOTE=Anonyminn;5832755]It's been a while, but I'm back in the sugar market.
Yourgirl - https://members.seeking.com/member/b4eec78c-92b0-4db3-9556-a39de699d801.
Coming to milwaukee and contacted me, looking for some fun while she is in town, looking for $500 anyone know anything about her? Been texting and DAM the pictures. Looks like fun but a little steep.
https://members.seeking.com/member/a64fbd5a-497f-4a9e-b20f-ea49e0109bacShe's back with a new profile. "Diamondsdancing". I'd post a link but she blocked me as soon as I declined her $500 ask.
Also, the "Naughty_Nadia22" and "SexySeductiveSunny" profiles are sharing the same phone number and their fake pics are taken from the same website.
We'd lined up a M&G at a pub early this year. About 20 minutes before our date time, she texted to say that training for a new job ran late and asked if I'd reschedule for sometime the following week. I responded that I don't accept last-minute rain checks and blocked her.
She is local, has done some modeling, and is better looking than her profile pics suggest IMO (9.5 to 10 in my book). She also began a new job around that time -- but it's still no excuse for not communicating until the last minute.
Texting with this game player is fun.
She is always too busy to meet in person. But keeps mentioning that she is looking for something financially mutually beneficial.
QUOTE=Anonyminn;5832755]It's been a while, but I'm back in the sugar market.
Yourgirl - https://members.seeking.com/member/b4eec78c-92b0-4db3-9556-a39de699d801.
WiseTraveler
04-24-22, 17:29
Rejoined SA. Must be needing members. I have been getting 20% off adds all the time. Pretty poor selection in my area. Same retreads and occasional new member that is on a day to a week and never logs on again.
It was I know my worth. Now have been getting "I want to be taken care of. " WTF is that? Do they want someone to pay for everything?
It's maddening. Like a stupidity virus. I've never looked at SD profiles but there are probably some overused / generic taglines and phrases as well.
I don't get how many still use the tagline "here for a good time, not a long time" and think, "Yeah, that's original and works for me". It's the Live Laugh Love of taglines.
Thoughts:
Once I explain I can only meet 1 x a month (not anything regular) and they agree to keep chatting, it pretty much means an allowance is off the table. If they really want a single SD, I'm not a good fit. That weeds out the 'pay my rent / take me to Qatar' queens. If they are way too professional about the chat and bring up boundaries, mutually beneficial, etc. It usually means $500+ PPM so I end those quickly. They're probably fine but I like to find the diamonds in the rough.
Slow down and play the numbers game. Try to at least give the illusion you're seeking a connection that includes but isn't only focused on intimacy it gives them cover psychologically to move forward. Bonus points if you mean it. After a few days (sometimes months) of chatting, I tend to get agreements at a lower price than their usual ask because I treat them with respect and make them laugh. I weave in inside jokes based on our chats and follow up 'How was your appointment? Is your mom doing better?' whatever is important to them. It takes a few minutes of chatting every few days. I can keep 5-10 chats going though I'll try to weed out some quickly. If they aren't responsive or seem boring, I'll move to numbers and lowball and only go forward if they can host. Those make good backups / variety but I've even stopped trying with them as it's rarely that good.
The gems are the ones that take a while to seduce. One took a year. She's fun to chat with, very attractive, interesting so when we finally did hook up it was phenomenal. Another took just three days of more intense chatting but she was so eager we moved up our next week coffee meet to her asking me to rush over there in the morning. Very much a GFE experience.
I avoid "Don't waste my time", ". Like the princess I am", "want a man who has the desire and means", "I'm not cheap" and any mention of "alpha male", "splenda / salt daddy", "not an escort", or "virtual at first".
I also avoid anyone who's desperate. You'd think it could be great because they'll be more willing but it's just sad and usually ends up with pressure to give advances which then makes the next meetings less fun. One offered 'anything goes with her and her friend' if I'd prepay their airbnb for a month. Declined / blocked. I screen for that now and explain it's just something I can't stand. Please don't ask for advances, period.
I joined SA because all of my regulars and ATFs were not available for the time being and I wanted to try a different avenue. When I joined SA I went the girl next door route, pretty, fit, sexy, but avoided those who were too self involved as you identified. It wasnt the best route for me. I treated it like a new found addiction and was chatting with babes all day getting laid often too but doing really stupid shit like bringing them to my local bar before bagging them at home. I was in search of the special someone and found her. Her name was Marg, an old lady name for such a young vibrant redhead. She had full D tits and when I took her for coffee she wasnt wearing a bra. I realized that when the vent above us was causing her to nip out. When I asked if she would like to continue the conversation my place I knew we would be fucking very soon and indeed true. It was the most passionate sex I ever had in my life. She wanted to use a condom for the first date but it broke in mid session. I was a gentleman and told her it broke and she was like fine fuck me bare. Ill never forget her scream for me to cum deep inside her. Did the neighbors hear LOL? This was the first of many dates that eventually ended in a breakup because I wasnt willing to pay her rent and I knew I wasnt the only thief in the house so to speak. When she dumped me it hurt like hell. I wasnt there for any emotional attachment but I guess it happened. Luckily for me my ATF came back in the picture.
I won't return to SA. Its just not the right fit for me. So much involvent and playing jedi mind games like "of course your not a ***** even though you fuck like one".
It's maddening. Like a stupidity virus. I've never looked at SD profiles but there are probably some overused / generic taglines and phrases as well.
I don't get how many still use the tagline "here for a good time, not a long time" and think, "Yeah, that's original and works for me". It's the Live Laugh Love of taglines.
Thoughts:
Once I explain I can only meet 1 x a month (not anything regular) and they agree to keep chatting, it pretty much means an allowance is off the table. If they really want a single SD, I'm not a good fit. That weeds out the 'pay my rent / take me to Qatar' queens. If they are way too professional about the chat and bring up boundaries, mutually beneficial, etc. It usually means $500+ PPM so I end those quickly. They're probably fine but I like to find the diamonds in the rough.
Slow down and play the numbers game. Try to at least give the illusion you're seeking a connection that includes but isn't only focused on intimacy it gives them cover psychologically to move forward. Bonus points if you mean it. After a few days (sometimes months) of chatting, I tend to get agreements at a lower price than their usual ask because I treat them with respect and make them laugh. I weave in inside jokes based on our chats and follow up 'How was your appointment? Is your mom doing better?' whatever is important to them. It takes a few minutes of chatting every few days. I can keep 5-10 chats going though I'll try to weed out some quickly. If they aren't responsive or seem boring, I'll move to numbers and lowball and only go forward if they can host. Those make good backups / variety but I've even stopped trying with them as it's rarely that good.
The gems are the ones that take a while to seduce. One took a year. She's fun to chat with, very attractive, interesting so when we finally did hook up it was phenomenal. Another took just three days of more intense chatting but she was so eager we moved up our next week coffee meet to her asking me to rush over there in the morning. Very much a GFE experience.
I avoid "Don't waste my time", ". Like the princess I am", "want a man who has the desire and means", "I'm not cheap" and any mention of "alpha male", "splenda / salt daddy", "not an escort", or "virtual at first".
I also avoid anyone who's desperate. You'd think it could be great because they'll be more willing but it's just sad and usually ends up with pressure to give advances which then makes the next meetings less fun. One offered 'anything goes with her and her friend' if I'd prepay their airbnb for a month. Declined / blocked. I screen for that now and explain it's just something I can't stand. Please don't ask for advances, period.
We'd lined up a M&G at a pub early this year. About 20 minutes before our date time, she texted to say that training for a new job ran late and asked if I'd reschedule for sometime the following week. I responded that I don't accept last-minute rain checks and blocked her.
She is local, has done some modeling, and is better looking than her profile pics suggest IMO (9.5 to 10 in my book). She also began a new job around that time -- but it's still no excuse for not communicating until the last minute.She got back to me.
Wants to see my picture before discussing any allowance. Should I send a picture and play along?
FYI she responds, maybe once a week.
Part of how I recieved reponses from the ladies on SA was that upfront I sent a pic before they even asked. It doesn't guatantee anything but gives them credibility that you are for real. What can I say, I wanted to get laid LOL so in terms of risk that is the choice you will have to make. I did have a couple situations where I felt like I was being invited to a lions den and if something doesn't feel right go with your instincts.
She got back to me.
Wants to see my picture before discussing any allowance. Should I send a picture and play along?
FYI she responds, maybe once a week.
I'm surprised you guys get any bites here. The pickings are slim.
Has it always been like this?
Absolutely agree with this!X2 I'm agree.
https://members.seeking.com/member/70c9ec93-61ac-4ecc-971a-bb4863d847f3
She wants cash for platonic dates, refused to be accountable to any timeline for intimacy (despite stating an openness to BBFS), and cancelled the date we were set to go horizontal. ID made.
SN: FunnyGirl.
Has a Pro Vibe. No reply over text.
DM me if you would like her phone number.
HooliganMike23
05-01-22, 17:14
SN: FunnyGirl.
Has a Pro Vibe. No reply over text.
DM me if you would like her phone number.The lipstick kiss tattoo on her ass, I am pretty sure I have seen that same picture in an ad either on STG or Megapersonals. So your guess about her being a pro is probably correct.
I have been ghosted by YourGirl.
DM me if you want to try your luck / waste your time on Yourgirl.
She got back to me.
Wants to see my picture before discussing any allowance. Should I send a picture and play along?
FYI she responds, maybe once a week.
Was able to connect with a pretty good one last week. I had planned on seeing ElleT, but she never responded to messages till 9 pm while I was waiting to meet a new SB.
Bandanagirl.
https://members.seeking.com/member/076aba5c-1ab8-4f76-af4a-48579d8eb663
BBFS and BBJCIM. I was the first guy she met so she charged a little more than what I usually do, but seemed to be down to do less since she felt more comfortable with the situation and that she did not get murdered. LOL Had a good time, was straightforward. She knows what we are here for and holds up her end of the deal.
Prior to meeting her this one wanted 400 for a BJ. LOL.
StrawbryFields4 ever.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ce2574a3-8f96-44e0-8d8f-5f91e98bb18e
ParkingGuy
05-05-22, 09:01
Was able to connect with a pretty good one last week. I had planned on seeing ElleT, but she never responded to messages till 9 pm while I was waiting to meet a new SB.
Bandanagirl.
https://members.seeking.com/member/076aba5c-1ab8-4f76-af4a-48579d8eb663
BBFS and BBJCIM. I was the first guy she met so she charged a little more than what I usually do, but seemed to be down to do less since she felt more comfortable with the situation and that she did not get murdered. LOL Had a good time, was straightforward. She knows what we are here for and holds up her end of the deal.
Prior to meeting her this one wanted 400 for a BJ. LOL.
StrawbryFields4 ever.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ce2574a3-8f96-44e0-8d8f-5f91e98bb18eI believe StrawberryFields4 ever has been on and off the site several times. See pic. I believe one of her more recent screen names was "SushiFlower" or something like that. I never met her in person but had a very negative experience with her via texting. I messaged her recently but then blocked her once I realized who she was. Assuming I have the right person, she has had a lot of negative feedback on this site.
Member #6100
05-12-22, 10:06
Have you noticed how the average age of the sugar babies on the site has increased? Used to be dominated by 18 to 23-year-old babies, but now it's mostly 25-35 babies.
Have you noticed how the average age of the sugar babies on the site has increased? Used to be dominated by 18 to 23-year-old babies, but now it's mostly 25-35 babies.As a percentage wise, I don't think I agree with that, but my opinion is the number of legitimate profiles has decreased dramatically over the last few years. When I first started in the site I tracked the number of profiles within 50 and 100 miles of Minneapolis. This was not a scientific process but would just pay attention to the numbers.
When I joined in 2015 there were about 6800 profiles within 50 miles of Minneapolis. That number grew somewhat steadily of the years and although I didn't record them I seem to recall the number reaching around 8500 and was over 10,000 if you expanded to 100 miles.
Then you have to account for fake or inactive profiles and those that were really not serious about and arrangement. I estimated this to be 25-30% of the overall profiles going back a few yrs.
Today there are 7460 profiles within 50 miles, which isn't that different. But the change is really in the number of legitimate profiles. Now you have to deal with:
1. Increase in fake / scam profiles.
2. Online only.
3. Selling pictures.
4. Platonic only (seriously, when the hell did that even become an option).
5. Increase in number of professional escorts.
6. Inactive / not serious about an arrangement profiles.
With all of that I am not even sure how to estimate the percentage these profiles account for, but I would say it is at least 45-50% and it could be higher. So, overall there is a big decrease in opportunities even though you see the same number of profiles when you search.
At one time I also knew the number of male profiles and the ratio was very favorable for men I seem to recall about 4. 5 to 1 after adjusting for the fakes / inactive on both sides. I have not checked that in quite awhile, so don't have a clue on the current ratio currently.
As for the age groups you mention there are in the 18-23 group there are 3146 and the 25-35 have 3009, so not sure that ratio had changed that much over the years. However there might be more BS profiles in the younger group, there are so many of them it is really had to say.
I have been considering posting something on my perspective on other changes to Seeking over my time on the site and might put something together in the near future.
SA Games happening again.
SN: Exploringblonde.
Comes across as an Entitled Brat.
DM me for her contact info.She has a new phone#.
Makes statements like "I get between 350-500 for every meeting".
She stopped responding because she got upset about a conversation we had. So, Anger issues?
Her number is up for grabs.
Member #6100
05-15-22, 10:18
As a percentage wise, I don't think I agree with that, but my opinion is the number of legitimate profiles has decreased dramatically over the last few years. When I first started in the site I tracked the number of profiles within 50 and 100 miles of Minneapolis. This was not a scientific process but would just pay attention to the numbers.
When I joined in 2015 there were about 6800 profiles within 50 miles of Minneapolis. That number grew somewhat steadily of the years and although I didn't record them I seem to recall the number reaching around 8500 and was over 10,000 if you expanded to 100 miles.
Then you have to account for fake or inactive profiles and those that were really not serious about and arrangement. I estimated this to be 25-30% of the overall profiles going back a few yrs.
Today there are 7460 profiles within 50 miles, which isn't that different. But the change is really in the number of legitimate profiles. Now you have to deal with:
1. Increase in fake / scam profiles.
2. Online only.
3. Selling pictures.
4. Platonic only (seriously, when the hell did that even become an option).
5. Increase in number of professional escorts.
6. Inactive / not serious about an arrangement profiles.
With all of that I am not even sure how to estimate the percentage these profiles account for, but I would say it is at least 45-50% and it could be higher. So, overall there is a big decrease in opportunities even though you see the same number of profiles when you search.
At one time I also knew the number of male profiles and the ratio was very favorable for men I seem to recall about 4. 5 to 1 after adjusting for the fakes / inactive on both sides. I have not checked that in quite awhile, so don't have a clue on the current ratio currently.
As for the age groups you mention there are in the 18-23 group there are 3146 and the 25-35 have 3009, so not sure that ratio had changed that much over the years. However there might be more BS profiles in the younger group, there are so many of them it is really had to say.
I have been considering posting something on my perspective on other changes to Seeking over my time on the site and might put something together in the near future.That is interesting information. Your numbers are correct. However, if you sort all the profiles by recently active, I feel like the average age of recently active sugar babies has increased as compared to maybe a year ago.
The issues you mentioned are spot on. For those sugar babies that actually want to meet to get money to help with their finances, they focus too much on price and not enough on volume. They can't find anyone to meet with them for 500 but could have met with three guys already for 300. Then of course they often flake out and stop communicating after a meeting or two.
On an unrelated note, check out the verification videos on Secret Benefits. You don't need to pay anything to do that. Its shocking how the pictures can look great and then the video shows the baby is actually not attractive and / or seems to have an unpleasant personality.
That is interesting information. Your numbers are correct. However, if you sort all the profiles by recently active, I feel like the average age of recently active sugar babies has increased as compared to maybe a year ago.
The issues you mentioned are spot on. For those sugar babies that actually want to meet to get money to help with their finances, they focus too much on price and not enough on volume. They can't find anyone to meet with them for 500 but could have met with three guys already for 300. Then of course they often flake out and stop communicating after a meeting or two.
On an unrelated note, check out the verification videos on Secret Benefits. You don't need to pay anything to do that. Its shocking how the pictures can look great and then the video shows the baby is actually not attractive and / or seems to have an unpleasant personality.So secret benefits videos help a lot. It is truly amazing how many women have these great pics and when you see the videos it's incredibly disappointing how ugly or no where close they are to the pics. These girls want money. Would they go to a job interview looking like horse shit? They have a 3 second video to make an impression and they do that. On the opposite side I have actually seen some where I wasn't interested and saw the video and it was great. I had one ppm date a few months ago with one I found like that.
Happy hunting.
MD.
She has a new phone#.
Makes statements like "I get between 350-500 for every meeting".
She stopped responding because she got upset about a conversation we had. So, Anger issues?
Her number is up for grabs.The first sign of any bullshit or bad attitude and I block them. There is 4 billion pussies on the planet that mostly feel the same. Just like I treat any other business in this day and age when business treats you like shit. It's one strike and Yer out a there!
I had to send many messages on Seeking to find these ladies. I would say that if I send 100 messages I end up meeting in person 3 ladies. So it's a numbers game but of course, it's also about how you communicate on the site.I have been thinking about the some lately, trying to decide if it is a problem with them or me. At one time I could send out 15-20 messages and get maybe 6-10 legitimate responses, most of which could easily turn into face-to-face meeting If our schedules matched up. I could easily meet 3 or 4 in a week for happy hour or sometimes just coffee if I had time. Obviously, not all of them turned into arrangements.
Today if I send out 15-20 messages, I feel lucky if I get 1 or 2 legitimate responses and even those seem much less likely to go anywhere. It could have something to do with me, since I am older, and I maybe aged out of some of the younger ones. Could be my profile needs to update to attract more interest or my messaging skills, which were never that great, have diminished. I am also, picky on who I message, so might be I need to lower my sights some.
However, it is more likely as discussed in our last coupe posts that Seeking has changed so much that it is just that much more difficult to navigate the BS.
I really can't complain that much. I have a couple great situations over the last year, Although, 2 of them ended in unique ways.
I posted majority of this before and this an just an update, but I had the one that ended last July when she found a "boyfriend" on the Seeking. They ended up getting engaged after about 8 months and are scheduled to get married next summer. He is 52 and she is 22.
About that time, I somehow stumbled into an arrangement with a 21 yr. Old student. I knew I was lucky to be seeing her and figured it could end at any time, so I saw her as much as possible from July to December and I loved every minute of it. In January, she told me she had a death in the family and needed a break and would get back in touch with me when her life settled down.
I thought we were getting along well and would hear form her again, but apparently I was mistaken. She has not reached out to me or responded to my messages since January. She has recently become active on Seeking most days and has new pictures that seem to show she had her breasts enlarged. Which is unfortunate as her natural ones were amazing and do not think you could really improve on them. Certainly, no regrets with her just disappointed she would ghost me after seeing each other as often as we did over the 6-months. And no, I am not giving out her information, somethings I will keep to myself.
I am seeing a new one now that I started messaging well over a year ago. Her communication skills are incredibly bad. Also, not always the most dependable. A few years ago I probably would have quickly moved on from her for those reasons. But she is hot and is good in bed. So, I will try and keep seeing her occasionally until hopefully someone better comes along, which looks like it might take longer than it would in past.
Have you noticed how the average age of the sugar babies on the site has increased? Used to be dominated by 18 to 23-year-old babies, but now it's mostly 25-35 babies.Also, the number of woman with Queen, Princess, Need Spoiling, in their profiles have increased dramatically in the MSP area.
I do have to say, most 18 -23 yr old profiles are scams. And Seeking is doing a good job of kicking scammers off the site.
The first sign of any bullshit or bad attitude and I block them. There is 4 billion pussies on the planet that mostly feel the same. Just like I treat any other business in this day and age when business treats you like shit. It's one strike and Yer out a there!Pussies are like snowflakes.
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Member #6100
05-17-22, 18:11
I will give you a status report. I have two current sugar babies. Baby X was fun to talk to until I learned that at times she feels the urge to check out. I suggested she get help and she said that won't happen. She resolved the issue for me by moving in with her sister and saying she didn't want to meet anymore because her sister would not approve of it. The other baby is young and extremely quiet. Intelligent. Sometimes less verbal communication is a good thing. The sex is awesome. There is another potential baby that I texted with 4 months ago and it didn't go anywhere. Recently I texted her from a different number. She is thick and curvy with a cute face and huge boobs. College-educated and started a job with a Fortune 500 company here in the Cities. She wants to meet in person. Not sure if I will yet.
I have been thinking about the some lately, trying to decide if it is a problem with them or me. At one time I could send out 15-20 messages and get maybe 6-10 legitimate responses, most of which could easily turn into face-to-face meeting If our schedules matched up. I could easily meet 3 or 4 in a week for happy hour or sometimes just coffee if I had time. Obviously, not all of them turned into arrangements.
Today if I send out 15-20 messages, I feel lucky if I get 1 or 2 legitimate responses and even those seem much less likely to go anywhere. It could have something to do with me, since I am older, and I maybe aged out of some of the younger ones. Could be my profile needs to update to attract more interest or my messaging skills, which were never that great, have diminished. I am also, picky on who I message, so might be I need to lower my sights some.
However, it is more likely as discussed in our last coupe posts that Seeking has changed so much that it is just that much more difficult to navigate the BS.
I really can't complain that much. I have a couple great situations over the last year, Although, 2 of them ended in unique ways.
I posted majority of this before and this an just an update, but I had the one that ended last July when she found a "boyfriend" on the Seeking. They ended up getting engaged after about 8 months and are scheduled to get married next summer. He is 52 and she is 22.
About that time, I somehow stumbled into an arrangement with a 21 yr. Old student. I knew I was lucky to be seeing her and figured it could end at any time, so I saw her as much as possible from July to December and I loved every minute of it. In January, she told me she had a death in the family and needed a break and would get back in touch with me when her life settled down.
I thought we were getting along well and would hear form her again, but apparently I was mistaken. She has not reached out to me or responded to my messages since January. She has recently become active on Seeking most days and has new pictures that seem to show she had her breasts enlarged. Which is unfortunate as her natural ones were amazing and do not think you could really improve on them. Certainly, no regrets with her just disappointed she would ghost me after seeing each other as often as we did over the 6-months. And no, I am not giving out her information, somethings I will keep to myself.
I am seeing a new one now that I started messaging well over a year ago. Her communication skills are incredibly bad. Also, not always the most dependable. A few years ago I probably would have quickly moved on from her for those reasons. But she is hot and is good in bed. So, I will try and keep seeing her occasionally until hopefully someone better comes along, which looks like it might take longer than it would in past.
I will give you a status report. I have two current sugar babies. Baby X was fun to talk to until I learned that at times she feels the urge to check out. I suggested she get help and she said that won't happen. She resolved the issue for me by moving in with her sister and saying she didn't want to meet anymore because her sister would not approve of it. The other baby is young and extremely quiet. Intelligent. Sometimes less verbal communication is a good thing. The sex is awesome. There is another potential baby that I texted with 4 months ago and it didn't go anywhere. Recently I texted her from a different number. She is thick and curvy with a cute face and huge boobs. College-educated and started a job with a Fortune 500 company here in the Cities. She wants to meet in person. Not sure if I will yet.What's your point exactly?
What's your point exactly?I was going to say don't be such a fucking asshole, but looks like you are new so will try to give you the benefit of the doubt. I guess the point of the board is post information or experiences they want to share with others. This will hopefully help people have success on the various SB sites. Also, since these are experiences that can't always be shared with even the closest friends it is an outlet share them with others here.
We have enough trouble getting people to post on this board, so we don't need trolls or others questioning what is posted or discouraging people to post about their experiences either good or bad.
Spaniard21
05-18-22, 10:32
We have enough trouble getting people to post on this board, so we don't need trolls or others questioning what is posted or discouraging people to post about their experiences either good or bad.Thank you.
I agree 100% We do need more posts.
I have finally found a SB that is worth the time and effort, it took me 3 months of trial and error, many messages. Will see how it goes, but I agree with what's been posted by others, it's a numbers game and you have to weed out the scammers and be very patient.
Spaniard21
05-18-22, 12:23
I believe StrawberryFields4 ever has been on and off the site several times. See pic. I believe one of her more recent screen names was "SushiFlower" or something like that. I never met her in person but had a very negative experience with her via texting. I messaged her recently but then blocked her once I realized who she was. Assuming I have the right person, she has had a lot of negative feedback on this site.I have connected with her in the past. She was great. On my last recent stint in the site, came across her profile, reached out to her. She immediately text me and gave me a sermon of how her time is valuable blah blah blah and she is now worth more blah blah blah. I played along and she kept going with her sermon, I offered her $$$ and she went ballistic! LOL Not worth it, she seems less mentally stable than before (5+ years ago) and will blow up when things don't go according her way.
I was going to say don't be such a fucking asshole, but looks like you are new so will try to give you the benefit of the doubt. I guess the point of the board is post information or experiences they want to share with others. This will hopefully help people have success on the various SB sites. Also, since these are experiences that can't always be shared with even the closest friends it is an outlet share them with others here.
We have enough trouble getting people to post on this board, so we don't need trolls or others questioning what is posted or discouraging people to post about their experiences either good or bad.Got it. Point taken. My bad.
Got it. Point taken. My bad.No worries, nice to have someone new willing to post. Glad to have you here!
Member #6100
05-19-22, 09:29
Got it. Point taken. My bad.Yes, since we can't share our experiences with close friends it's good to share them here. Also, we all learn something from our experiences.
I have connected with her in the past. She was great. On my last recent stint in the site, came across her profile, reached out to her. She immediately text me and gave me a sermon of how her time is valuable blah blah blah and she is now worth more blah blah blah. I played along and she kept going with her sermon, I offered her $$$ and she went ballistic! LOL Not worth it, she seems less mentally stable than before (5+ years ago) and will blow up when things don't go according her way.She is on the crazy river ride.
Stay way from her.
Seeking SN: luckypolischuk.
She is Active on snapchat. Another entitled 20 yr old. Besides negative attitude, and drama stories of how badly she has been treated in the SB world, you are not going to get far with her.
If you are wondering, she mentioned allowance of $3-500 for the whole meet intimacy: Whatever that means.
Seeking SN: luckypolischuk.
She is Active on snapchat. Another entitled 20 yr old. Besides negative attitude, and drama stories of how badly she has been treated in the SB world, you are not going to get far with her.
If you are wondering, she mentioned allowance of $3-500 for the whole meet intimacy: Whatever that means.I looked for her profile but couldn't find it. She maybe be gone or already blocked me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/76b697a3-3c79-452c-852e-ccd0243d8967
Hit her up yesterday (Saturday) and conversation moved quickly. I asked if she'd like to meet sometime soon and she suggested tonight (Sunday). I promptly responded with a proposed time and place, but she never read the message and apparently hasn't been on SA since. I've now blocked her.
Can confirm that Bananagirl (MidwestGirl now) delivers. I saw her for BBBJ / BBFSCIP recently. She looks good in person.
Was able to connect with a pretty good one last week. I had planned on seeing ElleT, but she never responded to messages till 9 pm while I was waiting to meet a new SB.
Bandanagirl.
https://members.seeking.com/member/076aba5c-1ab8-4f76-af4a-48579d8eb663
BBFS and BBJCIM. I was the first guy she met so she charged a little more than what I usually do, but seemed to be down to do less since she felt more comfortable with the situation and that she did not get murdered. LOL Had a good time, was straightforward. She knows what we are here for and holds up her end of the deal.
Prior to meeting her this one wanted 400 for a BJ. LOL.
StrawbryFields4 ever.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ce2574a3-8f96-44e0-8d8f-5f91e98bb18e
Has anyone had any luck with this SB?
https://members.seeking.com/member/8302edd1-68fb-47a0-ba7a-6a2a4f6cd510
She has been on and off the site since at least last fall. Her username now is NeverEnoughCPie; last year it was OnThe DL. We corresponded last year and were setting up a meeting, then she ghosted. She said that she goes back and forth to Vegas.
Yes, I've seen her a few times for $$$ 5. More of a pro than a sugar baby, but she's very hot, reasonable price, and a good menu (BBFSCIP, BBBJ, etc). She hosts at her apartment in Uptown and prefers to meet there and get right to it vs doing the meet and greet thing.
Has anyone had any luck with this SB?
https://members.seeking.com/member/8302edd1-68fb-47a0-ba7a-6a2a4f6cd510
She has been on and off the site since at least last fall. Her username now is NeverEnoughCPie; last year it was OnThe DL. We corresponded last year and were setting up a meeting, then she ghosted. She said that she goes back and forth to Vegas.
Member #6100
06-09-22, 08:09
This from LoveGambler:
When love cannot be perfect, I prefer to choose no regrets; no matter how beautiful the next life is, I do not want to lose the memory of you in this life. I don't ask for a long and beautiful day, I just want to have you in the cycle of life and death!
Seeking.
Active lifestyle.
Fine dining.
Flexible schedule.
Romance.
True Love.
Cigarettes in love with matches, belong to the dedication to love. A mouse in love with rice belongs to the pursuit of self-love. I fell in love with you, belongs to the arrangement of God, you have no reason not to become my favorite.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3fa16760-fab7-444f-863c-4acd650d9d29
Why would anyone post something like this LOL?
I receive this earlier this week when I asked about allowance expectations. Apparently, she has found guys who will pay this.
For public dates I require 250 for the first hour and 50 for every 30 minutes after that. This can be simple as some drinks at the bar, a dinner, shopping, bowling, golf, musuems, concerts, painting, pool, anything really! I'm very open and make everything fun (private dates start at 550 an hour, and 100 every 30 minutes after that. Private dates consist of me undressing for you, with music / massaging you / slow tease / etc. Touch can be included at a higher price. Anything more in detail can be discussed upon first public date. This way we are both comfortable in getting to know each other before deciding on going for a private date. I do want to make clear that I do take this serious. I do this as a side job to take care of myself and family and have had good experiences. I do not do prostitution and will not negotiate my prices. And more than anything I need a real genuine connection so that will always come first (:
Member #6100
06-11-22, 09:00
I receive this earlier this week when I asked about allowance expectations. Apparently, she has found guys who will pay this.
For public dates I require 250 for the first hour and 50 for every 30 minutes after that. This can be simple as some drinks at the bar, a dinner, shopping, bowling, golf, musuems, concerts, painting, pool, anything really! I'm very open and make everything fun (private dates start at 550 an hour, and 100 every 30 minutes after that. Private dates consist of me undressing for you, with music / massaging you / slow tease / etc. Touch can be included at a higher price. Anything more in detail can be discussed upon first public date. This way we are both comfortable in getting to know each other before deciding on going for a private date. I do want to make clear that I do take this serious. I do this as a side job to take care of myself and family and have had good experiences. I do not do prostitution and will not negotiate my prices. And more than anything I need a real genuine connection so that will always come first (:She seems to be a good writer. But I question whether many sugar daddies would go for her terms. The way she puts a price on everything it would feel like being with a pro.
She is definitely not a newbie, but I don't think she is a scammer either.
She sent me pictures, that do not show her face.
And she is offering cold fish CFS for $4-$5.
If you have had experience with her, Please DM me.
Member #6100
06-12-22, 12:10
She is definitely not a newbie, but I don't think she is a scammer either.
She sent me pictures, that do not show her face.
And she is offering cold fish CFS for $4-$5.
If you have had experience with her, Please DM me.What is cold fish CFS LOL? And how did you get to that with her via text LOL?
Cold fish / lame duck sex = girl just lays there eyes closed waiting for it to get over.
How do I know this? In out texting conversations she says she does not give head and condoms required. Mentioning this upfront, almost guarantees a not fun time in the bedroom.
What is cold fish CFS LOL? And how did you get to that with her via text LOL?
https://members.seeking.com/member/1afda4de-72ce-472a-8a6c-7e2593180c6f
Met this one for lunch recently. She showed up an hour and a half late but was communicative throughout the process. She looks damn good for 43 -- definitely better than her pics and I'd select her over many women in their 20's on SA. Has a young-adult daughter so she's now seeing what's out there. She looks trim and tight, but apparently doesn't work out despite looking like she does. Has legit and stable employment but works second shift. Her personality/affect is slightly odd but nothing off-putting for me in this context. I disclosed early on that I'm married with kids.
Our date went three hours between lunch and ice cream down the street. It ended with some DFK on the sidewalk so I figured it was a lock. (I would've moved to bag her then if I wasn't due home within an hour.) She'd readily accepted my offer of 400/wk and we'd agreed to meet the next week at my place. I forgot however that my old lady was off work then and later tried to reschedule for a different day. She then asked where we'd meet -- she remembered that my wife is usually off on the day I proposed -- I said lunch followed by a hotel. She then asked if 400/wk was for sex. I answered that I'd only pay for her time. She never replied.
I was a bit puzzled by the question, as I'd asked her point blank if she understood what the site was about and she came off as street smart. She's since clarified on her profile that she doesn't want anything sexual with married men.
Cold fish / lame duck sex = girl just lays there eyes closed waiting for it to get over.
How do I know this? In out texting conversations she says she does not give head and condoms required. Mentioning this upfront, almost guarantees a not fun time in the bedroom.I don't think that is an accurate assumption for a couple of reasons. There are many things that can happen once you are alone with them. I have had many experiences on SA where they didn't give head and required a condom, but we're amazing in bed and open to many other things.
One example is a college student I meet few yrs ago. It is a long story, but I had meet her almost a year and half before we finally moved forward with our arrangement. I knew a condom was required since she was not on birth control. When she got to the hotel room I gave her a hug and a small kiss and she said she wasn't really into kissing that much. I had something for us to drink, but she really wasn't into drinking. I suggested we start with with some mutual oral and she said she really didn't like giving or receiving.
So, at this point I thought it was going to be a bust, so I asked her what she did like and she said "I love to fuck and I like it rough. You can do whatever you want just don't pull pull my hair" Believe me, she was not lying about that at all, I would be completely drained after several rounds and she would be begging to go again. Turns out I was only the third guy she had slept with in her life, the other two being her boyfriend during her freshman year and a previous SD. She eventually loosed upon the kissing and the oral and really was a lot of fun.
The other reason is somewhat similar is that they don't always green light every thing they are willing to do with a stranger they have not meet in person. My experience has been they will always hold little something back until they feel comfortable and trust you. Once they get to that point they are likely to be more open to different things.
Were you just connecting with her online for that time or did you go on platonic dates? I don't think I could put up with platonic dates with a hottie that doesn't signal she wants to move things forward.
I don't think that is an accurate assumption for a couple of reasons. There are many things that can happen once you are alone with them. I have had many experiences on SA where they didn't give head and required a condom, but we're amazing in bed and open to many other things.
One example is a college student I meet few yrs ago. It is a long story, but I had meet her almost a year and half before we finally moved forward with our arrangement. I knew a condom was required since she was not on birth control. When she got to the hotel room I gave her a hug and a small kiss and she said she wasn't really into kissing that much. I had something for us to drink, but she really wasn't into drinking. I suggested we start with with some mutual oral and she said she really didn't like giving or receiving.
So, at this point I thought it was going to be a bust, so I asked her what she did like and she said "I love to fuck and I like it rough. You can do whatever you want just don't pull pull my hair" Believe me, she was not lying about that at all, I would be completely drained after several rounds and she would be begging to go again. Turns out I was only the third guy she had slept with in her life, the other two being her boyfriend during her freshman year and a previous SD. She eventually loosed upon the kissing and the oral and really was a lot of fun.
The other reason is somewhat similar is that they don't always green light every thing they are willing to do with a stranger they have not meet in person. My experience has been they will always hold little something back until they feel comfortable and trust you. Once they get to that point they are likely to be more open to different things.
Member #6100
06-15-22, 14:51
https://members.seeking.com/member/1afda4de-72ce-472a-8a6c-7e2593180c6f
Met this one for lunch recently. She showed up an hour and a half late but was communicative throughout the process. She looks damn good for 43 -- definitely better than her pics and I'd select her over many women in their 20's on SA. Has a young-adult daughter so she's now seeing what's out there. She looks trim and tight, but apparently doesn't work out despite looking like she does. Has legit and stable employment but works second shift. Her personality/affect is slightly odd but nothing off-putting for me in this context. I disclosed early on that I'm married with kids.
Our date went three hours between lunch and ice cream down the street. It ended with some DFK on the sidewalk so I figured it was a lock. (I would've moved to bag her then if I wasn't due home within an hour.) She'd readily accepted my offer of 400/wk and we'd agreed to meet the next week at my place. I forgot however that my old lady was off work then and later tried to reschedule for a different day. She then asked where we'd meet -- she remembered that my wife is usually off on the day I proposed -- I said lunch followed by a hotel. She then asked if 400/wk was for sex. I answered that I'd only pay for her time. She never replied.
I was a bit puzzled by the question, as I'd asked her point blank if she understood what the site was about and she came off as street smart. She's since clarified on her profile that she doesn't want anything sexual with married men.That is strange. Are you going to follow up and ask her to explain why she apparently changed her mind about your arrangement?
Member #6100
06-15-22, 14:59
I don't think that is an accurate assumption for a couple of reasons. There are many things that can happen once you are alone with them. I have had many experiences on SA where they didn't give head and required a condom, but we're amazing in bed and open to many other things.
One example is a college student I meet few yrs ago. It is a long story, but I had meet her almost a year and half before we finally moved forward with our arrangement. I knew a condom was required since she was not on birth control. When she got to the hotel room I gave her a hug and a small kiss and she said she wasn't really into kissing that much. I had something for us to drink, but she really wasn't into drinking. I suggested we start with with some mutual oral and she said she really didn't like giving or receiving.
So, at this point I thought it was going to be a bust, so I asked her what she did like and she said "I love to fuck and I like it rough. You can do whatever you want just don't pull pull my hair" Believe me, she was not lying about that at all, I would be completely drained after several rounds and she would be begging to go again. Turns out I was only the third guy she had slept with in her life, the other two being her boyfriend during her freshman year and a previous SD. She eventually loosed upon the kissing and the oral and really was a lot of fun.
The other reason is somewhat similar is that they don't always green light every thing they are willing to do with a stranger they have not meet in person. My experience has been they will always hold little something back until they feel comfortable and trust you. Once they get to that point they are likely to be more open to different things.A few months ago I met this hot looking Asian sugar baby. She was quiet and seemed shy. We met for drinks and apps on our first date. Next date was a hotel meet. She told me she doesn't like "to do anything" to me. Basically, she wanted to lay there like a dead fish while we had sex. I told her that would make me very uncomfortable. She finally admitted it was her fault and she is "weird. " We ended that date with no sex. Tried one more time and we had bbcip, but surprise she was not that into it. So that ended it for me. Moral of the story is a cute face and hot body can't offset a cold fish attitude and mental health issues.
Were you just connecting with her online for that time or did you go on platonic dates? I don't think I could put up with platonic dates with a hottie that doesn't signal she wants to move things forward.It was actually quite different than that. We originally meet for coffee and I think it was January 2108. It was very quick meeting, like 20 minutes. She was very attractive, but seemed little shy. We had some slight difference on allowance, she was little higher than what was common back then (but would be a bargain now). We worked that out and were trying to set up a time and she disappeared on me.
Later that summer, we reconnected through the site again and meet for coffee a second time which was again a quick meeting. She had a new phone number then, which she had not shared with me yet and we were just messaging through the site. She still seemed little shy so I was on the fence about moving forward and my SA subscription expired. I didn't renew it right away but when I did her profile was gone, so had no way to contact her.
Fast forward a year and I had set up a new profile during that time. I messaged someone I found interesting and she responded asking if I previously had a different profile name. I let her know I had and she told me she was CaribbeanGirl and had also set up a new profile. I thought she would probably be angry with me, but explained when I renewed my account her profile was gone. Surprisingly she was not mad and wanted to meet. This time we decided to go right to a hotel meeting since we had already had coffee twice LOL. She put on little weight over that time but still very attractive. In the end things worked out pretty good from my perspective.
I talked her down to $4 for a meet with play. Originally she wanted $5+.
Red Flags so far: She has sent me 3 pictures, none of them showing her face.
But the pictures show her tall, lean body.
Ok, I will pursue this one and report.
I don't think that is an accurate assumption for a couple of reasons. There are many things that can happen once you are alone with them. I have had many experiences on SA where they didn't give head and required a condom, but we're amazing in bed and open to many other things.
One example is a college student I meet few yrs ago. It is a long story, but I had meet her almost a year and half before we finally moved forward with our arrangement. I knew a condom was required since she was not on birth control. When she got to the hotel room I gave her a hug and a small kiss and she said she wasn't really into kissing that much. I had something for us to drink, but she really wasn't into drinking. I suggested we start with with some mutual oral and she said she really didn't like giving or receiving.
So, at this point I thought it was going to be a bust, so I asked her what she did like and she said "I love to fuck and I like it rough. You can do whatever you want just don't pull pull my hair" Believe me, she was not lying about that at all, I would be completely drained after several rounds and she would be begging to go again. Turns out I was only the third guy she had slept with in her life, the other two being her boyfriend during her freshman year and a previous SD. She eventually loosed upon the kissing and the oral and really was a lot of fun.
The other reason is somewhat similar is that they don't always green light every thing they are willing to do with a stranger they have not meet in person. My experience has been they will always hold little something back until they feel comfortable and trust you. Once they get to that point they are likely to be more open to different things.
SN: CleverMermaid.
This 20 yr old does have something stuck up, somewhere.
First of she mentions going to Wales. Wierd. Then turns out she is located 1 hour away from TC. Her Expectation $750 for first meet.
When I questioned that GPS amount, she gave me big speech about market rates and replies "we clearly already do not click, so thank you for my time. ".
Another Crazy from the 715 area code.
That is strange. Are you going to follow up and ask her to explain why she apparently changed her mind about your arrangement?No, I just let her drop. I very rarely pursue women who show signs of waning interest in the early going.
Yes, I've seen her a few times for $$$ 5. More of a pro than a sugar baby, but she's very hot, reasonable price, and a good menu (BBFSCIP, BBBJ, etc). She hosts at her apartment in Uptown and prefers to meet there and get right to it vs doing the meet and greet thing.Reached out via SA last Thursday and quickly moved to text. There, we lined up a Saturday night meet for 400. Discussion clearly indicated that she's into creampies as her handle implies. Confirming prior reports, she said that her place is in Uptown and we planned to meet directly there. I texted Saturday morning to confirm (per plan) but heard nothing back. I took the rare step of texting again in the evening, also to no avail. Blocked her the next day.
SN: Fungirl.
She has a area code 303 phone number. Unreliable on text. Makes meets and then claims she fell asleep. Will not video chat, cause it makes her nervous.
Her latest game is, she is asking for a commitment.
If you have met her, DM me with details.
A few months ago I met this hot looking Asian sugar baby. She was quiet and seemed shy. We met for drinks and apps on our first date. Next date was a hotel meet. She told me she doesn't like "to do anything" to me. Basically, she wanted to lay there like a dead fish while we had sex. I told her that would make me very uncomfortable. She finally admitted it was her fault and she is "weird. " We ended that date with no sex. Tried one more time and we had bbcip, but surprise she was not that into it. So that ended it for me. Moral of the story is a cute face and hot body can't offset a cold fish attitude and mental health issues.That's not great at all. You remember the username?
MaWilliams
06-19-22, 07:18
I had the same experience, she promises a lot and will set a meet then requests a commitment to meet.
SN: Fungirl.
She has a area code 303 phone number. Unreliable on text. Makes meets and then claims she fell asleep. Will not video chat, cause it makes her nervous.
Her latest game is, she is asking for a commitment.
If you have met her, DM me with details.
SN: Fungirl.
She has a area code 303 phone number. Unreliable on text. Makes meets and then claims she fell asleep. Will not video chat, cause it makes her nervous.
Her latest game is, she is asking for a commitment.
If you have met her, DM me with details.I have not messaged her or met her. But based on her profile and your experiences so far, I definitely vote scammer.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c0987a81-dc9a-4840-958d-028f54a6d417
Appreciate this active group.
SN: SharpCharmer.
Has a 281 area code. She is out in Red Wing. Very easy to talk to. Wants $350.
When I countered with less, she said she wants some upfront as a commitment.
DM or post with any info.
Member #6100
06-20-22, 14:54
Appreciate this active group.
SN: SharpCharmer.
Has a 281 area code. She is out in Red Wing. Very easy to talk to. Wants $350.
When I countered with less, she said she wants some upfront as a commitment.
DM or post with any info.Can you post the link? Hard to find the profile without that.
I blocked her a while back on SA, so can't provide her link.
Can some kind soul look her up and post her link?
BBQ, I will DM you her phone number.
Can you post the link? Hard to find the profile without that.
HardWoodsman
06-21-22, 08:28
I blocked her a while back on SA, so can't provide her link.
Can some kind soul look her up and post her link?
BBQ, I will DM you her phone number.Is this the one?
https://members.seeking.com/member/d6949012-5175-4483-9049-103e4bfffbae
HardWoodsman
06-21-22, 22:10
Is this the one?
https://members.seeking.com/member/d6949012-5175-4483-9049-103e4bfffbaeShe a scam. In March she was listing Orlando as he home city and asking for deposits and ghosting. Post 3512.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?19532-Sugar-Baby/page11
Thanks for providing the links.
These scammers are getting very sophisticated. Watch your back everyone.
She a scam. In March she was listing Orlando as he home city and asking for deposits and ghosting. Post 3512.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?19532-Sugar-Baby/page11
NerdyGuy12
06-22-22, 22:59
Anyone else seen her? Anyone will to share her number? I have some to trade.
Can confirm that Bananagirl (MidwestGirl now) delivers. I saw her for BBBJ / BBFSCIP recently. She looks good in person.
I set a meet with her.
Before the meet, she sent me a bunch of canned texts saying how she is an experienced SB, she is sorry about my bad experiences in the past, Blah Blah Blah.
And wants a deposit before our meeting.
Smh, Girls from Colorado.
I have not messaged her or met her. But based on her profile and your experiences so far, I definitely vote scammer.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c0987a81-dc9a-4840-958d-028f54a6d417
WiseTraveler
06-24-22, 10:57
I had the same experience, she promises a lot and will set a meet then requests a commitment to meet.Started chatting, very friendly / flirty, gets to 'was thinking about you' though she hadn't even seen my pics. She was pushing for a meet but when I offered times / dates and added my usual disclaimer that I only give money in person, she stopped replying.
Dodged a bullet.
Member #6100
07-02-22, 11:26
This board has been kinda quiet. A few months ago I had three sugar babies on my phone. One of them turned out to be a dead fish in bed and wanted 500 ppm so I stopped that. Another one is having mental health issues and has ghosted me. The third one, who is young and extremely quiet, is my favorite. But we have not been able to make schedules work. I am just a regular member on SA. I enjoy browsing the profiles.
For my taste this lady has a really cute face: https://members.seeking.com/member/baa49b81-f1fd-41e4-913c-cb00e9bf90eb What do her private pics look like?
This one interests me because I have never been with a Muslim girl: https://members.seeking.com/member/baa49b81-f1fd-41e4-913c-cb00e9bf90eb.
Here is a new profile that looks good to me: https://members.seeking.com/member/d293b123-0acb-4b31-82a7-7eff05214218.
If you have any 411 or comments on these profiles let us know.
I am banned from SA. I know how to get back on but it takes some work. So in a moment of weakness, I paid $90 for credits on Secret Benefits. It's a blast watching the verification videos and comparing what you see in the video with the edited pictures. Also some of them look decent but after hearing two words come out of their mouth you want to run LOL. Anyway, I used the credit to contact about 15 girls. I think I got replies from maybe three of them. And it didn't go anywhere.
I did some browsing as an upaid member on What Is Your Price. Seems like at any point in time there are only about 10 recently visited profiles. Does anyone have success on this site?
Have a good 4th!
Any intel on this one? In talks. She seems down to clown.
https://members.seeking.com/member/dc7162d9-c2a7-4eaa-b323-211c35eaf53f
Member #6100
07-10-22, 11:23
Any intel on this one? In talks. She seems down to clown.
https://members.seeking.com/member/dc7162d9-c2a7-4eaa-b323-211c35eaf53fI recognize one of her face pictures from an older profile. She looks pretty hot. How much PPM is she asking for?
We agreed on 3. 5 ppm.
I recognize one of her face pictures from an older profile. She looks pretty hot. How much PPM is she asking for?
Any intel on this one? In talks. She seems down to clown.
https://members.seeking.com/member/dc7162d9-c2a7-4eaa-b323-211c35eaf53fSearch this forum for armybrat.
Member #6100
07-10-22, 20:52
Search this forum for armybrat.Per Ryan's suggestion I searched the forum for Armybrat. Sure enough, there are comments on her from 2020. I found a link to her old profile that is still working.
https://members.seeking.com/member/3e89d0a5-7e11-4abe-a4b2-37c42d8be1e6?_cf_ref=aHR0cDovL3d3dy51c2FzZXhndWlkZS5ubC8%3D
Blondes are more fun: Has a 947 area code. Clearly a scammer. Wants $50 deposit. When I refused, Scammer got mean.
InnocentLover: 715 area code. Wisconsin Girl wants 70-100 gas money to drive to the cities.
Senior members if you want to mess with these scammers, DM me for their phone numbers.
Any girl who asks for 300+ for a first meet is a Professional, money grab / money hound. Here are a few:
CutieJ: Has a 914 area code. Gives a BS story about how she is in Minnesota due to a death in family. Demands 300. Gets bitchy when offered less than 300.
PrettyGirl: 507 area code. Claims to be from Mankato, but readily available to meet in TC. Demands 300-500 for 1st meet.
Seniors, DM me for these GPS Phone numbers.
I received contact info from Bblover1 for a young woman on SA.
She is no longer interested in meeting more men. Sigh. Those are the breaks.
I attempted to message Bb directly but either he isn't receiving messages anymore or the box is full.
Sidebar. Thanks Bblover1 for her contact info. She sounds great and intelligent but no longer on the market.
Weirdo.
WiseGirlie wants 600 for a first meeting. 300 as a deposit.
628 area code.
Member #6100
07-17-22, 18:04
Search this forum for armybrat.Did you meet with her? Report?
Scammer.
Chatted with her on the site and moved to text after a bit.
Needed to reschedule the first meet. Met for coffee near her place. She was wearing a top with her tits popping out and her nipples on full display (they were quite the site). Conversation was totally boring.
Offered to go to her place or a hotel. She said she wanted first meet to be platonic and she needed to be up early for her job (delivery driver).
Texted next day asking why no PPM for platonic meet.
Good luck to someone else. https://members.seeking.com/member/8ffad1ee-d5ee-48a5-9821-661edd49d7e9.
Nino Pacino
07-21-22, 17:22
Did you meet with her? Report?I think these profiles are the same person. Who can report? Others have reported she's legit but what is she like? She seems to be marketing pretty hard.
Member #6100
07-22-22, 18:20
Curious what your average number of dates is with a new SB.
For me I would say 1 or 2.
WiseTraveler
07-23-22, 12:39
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I am banned from SA. I know how to get back on but it takes some work. So in a moment of weakness, I paid $90 for credits on Secret Benefits. It's a blast watching the verification videos and comparing what you see in the video with the edited pictures. Also some of them look decent but after hearing two words come out of their mouth you want to run LOL. Anyway, I used the credit to contact about 15 girls. I think I got replies from maybe three of them. And it didn't go anywhere.
I did some browsing as an upaid member on What Is Your Price. Seems like at any point in time there are only about 10 recently visited profiles. Does anyone have success on this site?
Have a good 4th!I've had better success on SB than SA in terms of $300 or less but I'm getting to upper 50's and care more about the face and experience than a perfect figure. I prefer chubby or even thick so I get far less competition. 100% agree on the verification videos though. I see some with sexy pics, some clearly professional and then they have a video of them with a fucking haircap on, or what looks like a meth den in the background. It's so common it should be a meme.
WYP was interesting but a bust. In most cases, you can find their profiles on SB or Seeking so there's no point in paying at least $50 and usually a $100 or more to just meet. If you have disposable income and some game, I've heard of some who've gotten laid for just dinner / drinks and no extra beyond the $150-200 initial meet but it's more likely you'll just have an awkward meal and get a hug at best.
Seeking is good every few months to set up a new pipeline, especially if I'm traveling but the potentials in Minnesota have really declined. Even more scammers, ones who change their location every few days, or like others have mentioned, suddenly need gas money (what a crock of shit) to meet. I just reply I don't send $ in advance ever and don't do arrangements with anyone so desperate as it never works out.
Member #6100
07-23-22, 14:57
I've had better success on SB than SA in terms of $300 or less but I'm getting to upper 50's and care more about the face and experience than a perfect figure. I prefer chubby or even thick so I get far less competition. 100% agree on the verification videos though. I see some with sexy pics, some clearly professional and then they have a video of them with a fucking haircap on, or what looks like a meth den in the background. It's so common it should be a meme.
WYP was interesting but a bust. In most cases, you can find their profiles on SB or Seeking so there's no point in paying at least $50 and usually a $100 or more to just meet. If you have disposable income and some game, I've heard of some who've gotten laid for just dinner / drinks and no extra beyond the $150-200 initial meet but it's more likely you'll just have an awkward meal and get a hug at best.
Seeking is good every few months to set up a new pipeline, especially if I'm traveling but the potentials in Minnesota have really declined. Even more scammers, ones who change their location every few days, or like others have mentioned, suddenly need gas money (what a crock of shit) to meet. I just reply I don't send $ in advance ever and don't do arrangements with anyone so desperate as it never works out.I actually did end up meeting a lady in her 50's that was on SB. I got her down to 200 and we met at a hotel. She seemed emotionally unstable and sure enough she ghosted me. Which is fine. The rest of my credits were used to contact about 12 hot-looking ladies and I got two brief replies and then nothing.
I feel like the average age of the ladies on Seeking has increased a fair amount. On the other hand, most of the ladies on SB are under 25.
Why do you think the number of legit profiles has declined on SA?
Curious what your average number of dates is with a new SB.
For me I would say 1 or 2.I have seen one woman 60+ times, so my numbers are probably skewed somewhat LOL. But if I see someone only 1 or 2 times, it probably means something didn't go well. It could mean a variety of things such as the sex was not great or they wanted more money than I thought was reasonable. It could also be as simple as our schedules just don't match up or I meet someone I like better.
Assuming things go well the first couple meeting, it is usually around the 3rd or maybe 4th that I decide if might be something longer term. By then you should have gotten to know them somewhat and if they are someone you like spending time with.
Also, the sex should get better the each time you see them for at least the first 3 or 4 times as you learn about what gets them off in bed and their best skills. Even if the sex was great the first time, my feeling is that if you only see them them 1 or 2 times you probably won't know what they are really capable of in bed.
WiseTraveler
07-24-22, 14:41
I actually did end up meeting a lady in her 50's that was on SB. I got her down to 200 and we met at a hotel. She seemed emotionally unstable and sure enough she ghosted me. Which is fine. The rest of my credits were used to contact about 12 hot-looking ladies and I got two brief replies and then nothing.
I feel like the average age of the ladies on Seeking has increased a fair amount. On the other hand, most of the ladies on SB are under 25.
Why do you think the number of legit profiles has declined on SA?With the SB site, it's partly luck but also having a good memory for seeing a profile you've seen on seeking before. Generally, if a Secret Benefits SB has a seeking profile, they'll be higher priced and may not even respond to messages on SB.com. It also depends on your type. If you are messaging college age / under 30, fit, well dressed types, you know the ones who always have a pic of themself on a yacht, somewhere in Europe, or on a sports car, they generally end up seeking and want more PPM or a full arrangement.
Seeking has fewer legit profiles as the job market is overall pretty good and the target audience has learned more about the realities of sugaring: Old pervs, younger guys trying to date free / cheap, splenda daddies, scammers, time wasters, and *gasp* that there aren't hundreds of local lonely men who will throw money, trips, and shopping sprees at them for cute selfies, dinner, and the ubiquitous "deep conversations" combined with only hearing success stories from only their hottest friends. It's like Crypto. It was great while it lasted but now the downsides are far clearer and not worth the risk for most people.
That said, inflation has increased the number of active profiles on SB.com. I'm getting 2-5 unsolicited messages per week and I haven't logged in for over a month. There are more unique profiles that aren't just toe dippers 'seeing what's out there'.
After reading thousands of profiles, I've developed a pretty good sense of who is likely to be active and in my $ range. I avoid sparse profiles that just say 'weekly dinners and travel' or long dear diary entries where they pour their hearts and dreams into every paragraph. Neither are realistic.
Re: Avg # of meets is hard to say but the most typical outcomes are either 1-2, 5-6, or 15-20. 1-2 is because we don't click or they're not reliable (ask for advances, bring drama, etc.). 5-6 if they seem to get bored or complacent or I lose interest. It happens. They might also move or find a new boyfriend. The few who got to 15-20 was because they could host close by and loved sex and often didn't even want $.
Member #6100
07-27-22, 10:48
I have seen one woman 60+ times, so my numbers are probably skewed somewhat LOL. But if I see someone only 1 or 2 times, it probably means something didn't go well. It could mean a variety of things such as the sex was not great or they wanted more money than I thought was reasonable. It could also be as simple as our schedules just don't match up or I meet someone I like better.
Assuming things go well the first couple meeting, it is usually around the 3rd or maybe 4th that I decide if might be something longer term. By then you should have gotten to know them somewhat and if they are someone you like spending time with.
Also, the sex should get better the each time you see them for at least the first 3 or 4 times as you learn about what gets them off in bed and their best skills. Even if the sex was great the first time, my feeling is that if you only see them them 1 or 2 times you probably won't know what they are really capable of in bed.Wow 60 times ha ha. How often do you meet with your sugar babies? I can only meet about twice a month. Do you seek out any particular age, ethnicity, body type etc? Wisetraveler seems to have good results with the thicker ladies.
Are you able to host? I am not able. How often can your sugar babies host? One thing you did not mention was that you stop meeting because the sugar baby ghosts you. Or you have texted a sugar baby for a few weeks but not met yet, and then she ghosts you. Most of my arrangements have ended because my sugar baby was having some mental health issues and was not stable or consistent.
Member #6100
07-27-22, 11:08
With the SB site, it's partly luck but also having a good memory for seeing a profile you've seen on seeking before. Generally, if a Secret Benefits SB has a seeking profile, they'll be higher priced and may not even respond to messages on SB.com. It also depends on your type. If you are messaging college age / under 30, fit, well dressed types, you know the ones who always have a pic of themself on a yacht, somewhere in Europe, or on a sports car, they generally end up seeking and want more PPM or a full arrangement.
Seeking has fewer legit profiles as the job market is overall pretty good and the target audience has learned more about the realities of sugaring: Old pervs, younger guys trying to date free / cheap, splenda daddies, scammers, time wasters, and *gasp* that there aren't hundreds of local lonely men who will throw money, trips, and shopping sprees at them for cute selfies, dinner, and the ubiquitous "deep conversations" combined with only hearing success stories from only their hottest friends. It's like Crypto. It was great while it lasted but now the downsides are far clearer and not worth the risk for most people.
That said, inflation has increased the number of active profiles on SB.com. I'm getting 2-5 unsolicited messages per week and I haven't logged in for over a month. There are more unique profiles that aren't just toe dippers 'seeing what's out there'.
After reading thousands of profiles, I've developed a pretty good sense of who is likely to be active and in my $ range. I avoid sparse profiles that just say 'weekly dinners and travel' or long dear diary entries where they pour their hearts and dreams into every paragraph. Neither are realistic.
Re: Avg # of meets is hard to say but the most typical outcomes are either 1-2, 5-6, or 15-20. 1-2 is because we don't click or they're not reliable (ask for advances, bring drama, etc.). 5-6 if they seem to get bored or complacent or I lose interest. It happens. They might also move or find a new boyfriend. The few who got to 15-20 was because they could host close by and loved sex and often didn't even want $.I appreciate the great overview! I had typed out a long reply but I got logged out and lost it. So I will post more later.
One last thing. I am attracted to Asian and Hispanic sugar babies. If anyone had phone numbers for me, please PM me!
Here are a few Seeking Screen names, that are best to avoid, unless you want unnecessary drama:
Seraphina: Major headcase. Another crazy from the 507 area code.
PrimaDonna: This one is interesting. Calls out of the blue, multiple times. Claims she butt dialed.
FlirtyBae: Basic questions annoy her. Wants $4 to meet and a ride to the cities.
Also, for sheer volume, fun, and bang for buck nothing beats Seeking. I have tried them all and more.
Member #6100
08-03-22, 17:49
I signed up for the site. Its free. There are maybe like 5 to 10 active cuddlers in the Twin Cities area. Similar to Seeking, there are those that will engage you and then block you just for the fun of it.
I agreed to $120 for an hour with the cuddler hosting. I won't say anything here that could identify her. For the first 30 minutes or so, we just cuddled and talked. Then I asked if she wanted me to massage her and she said yes. I played the AMP game and began to graze her inner thighs etc. Soon I was fingering her and she seemed to enjoy it. I didn't ask her to do anything to me since it was our first session and I had no idea how open her menu was.
For me, it was a better experience than an AMP. Cuddling and good conversation is more intimate than a massage followed by a robotic HE. It feels more like a regular date and there is excitement to see what can happen.
I got banned because a cuddler reported me because a cuddler went PMS on me when I asked for two regular pictures instead of just one. And once that happens, if you try to create a new profile, they track your IP and Email address and even your picture. And the site admin is reading messages. So be careful.
WiseTraveler
08-04-22, 11:12
I signed up for the site. Its free. There are maybe like 5 to 10 active cuddlers in the Twin Cities area. Similar to Seeking, there are those that will engage you and then block you just for the fun of it.
I agreed to $120 for an hour with the cuddler hosting. I won't say anything here that could identify her. For the first 30 minutes or so, we just cuddled and talked. Then I asked if she wanted me to massage her and she said yes. I played the AMP game and began to graze her inner thighs etc. Soon I was fingering her and she seemed to enjoy it. I didn't ask her to do anything to me since it was our first session and I had no idea how open her menu was.
For me, it was a better experience than an AMP. Cuddling and good conversation is more intimate than a massage followed by a robotic HE. It feels more like a regular date and there is excitement to see what can happen.
I got banned because a cuddler reported me because a cuddler went PMS on me when I asked for two regular pictures instead of just one. And once that happens, if you try to create a new profile, they track your IP and Email address and even your picture. And the site admin is reading messages. So be careful.CC is great if you are traveling but you have to be paranoid and come across as legit in every on site communication. If you get banned, you can create a new profile using a new device (cheap tablet from Walmart, an old iPad) but it has to be something you've never visited the CC site before on and you cannot use your regular wifi. You should also use a very different email (so if you were cuddlebang01, don't use cuddlebang02) and completely different pictures (which they match as well). They not only track your email / IP address but wifi logins, device IDs, and pictures (via exif data and possibly facial recognition). CC has also gotten much more strict on anything that might be fun. Wouldn't be surprised if they go full legit and require verification. Some of the loudest 'keep it platonic / report everyone' types on the forums gave me extras LOL.
CuddleCompanions dot org tends to have more open minded cuddlers but you have to pay a 40% deposit and it's a pain to schedule since they will stop replying even after booking. You have to just be patient and keep trying to schedule. Pay for the first time then get their # and text after that.
Member #6100
08-04-22, 11:49
CC is great if you are traveling but you have to be paranoid and come across as legit in every on site communication. If you get banned, you can create a new profile using a new device (cheap tablet from Walmart, an old iPad) but it has to be something you've never visited the CC site before on and you cannot use your regular wifi. You should also use a very different email (so if you were cuddlebang01, don't use cuddlebang02) and completely different pictures (which they match as well). They not only track your email / IP address but wifi logins, device IDs, and pictures (via exif data and possibly facial recognition). CC has also gotten much more strict on anything that might be fun. Wouldn't be surprised if they go full legit and require verification. Some of the loudest 'keep it platonic / report everyone' types on the forums gave me extras LOL.
CuddleCompanions dot org tends to have more open minded cuddlers but you have to pay a 40% deposit and it's a pain to schedule since they will stop replying even after booking. You have to just be patient and keep trying to schedule. Pay for the first time then get their # and text after that.Yes at first I thought CC was a small company created by an amateur web developer. Everything you said is spot on. I created a new profile with a different IP, and different Email, and didn't use my real pictures. That seems to be working.
I have done two cuddling sessions with ladies on CC. The first lady had a professional job and seemed reasonably normal. The next lady was a hot mess. Mental health, drug and alcohol issues, notwithstanding a college degree and high intelligence. I went into her bathroom after the session to wash my hands and was shocked to see at least ten prescription bottles sitting on her sink. She told me she watches porn three times a day.
The apartments for both cuddlers were trashed. Clothes all over the place, sink full of dishes, junk sitting around, etc.
The first lady I met with got banned because she gave me her address and the session was not booked on the site.
Both ladies let me fiv, but neither of them made any moves on me. The first lady said she refuses to cum in front of guys, only herself. Right. The second lady said she couldn't come because she had already masturbated three times that day.
I took a look at the other site you mentioned. A few of the same profiles as on CC, and less local profiles than CC.
The trashed apartments and mental issues bring me down. I probably won't pursue these two again.
Seems like sex would be possible with these cuddlers at a lower price point than sugar babies or escorts. So if I find one I feel good about we will see.
Wow 60 times ha ha. How often do you meet with your sugar babies? I can only meet about twice a month. Do you seek out any particular age, ethnicity, body type etc? Wisetraveler seems to have good results with the thicker ladies.
Are you able to host? I am not able. How often can your sugar babies host? One thing you did not mention was that you stop meeting because the sugar baby ghosts you. Or you have texted a sugar baby for a few weeks but not met yet, and then she ghosts you. Most of my arrangements have ended because my sugar baby was having some mental health issues and was not stable or consistent.How often I seem them really varies, but usually 1-3 times per month if it turns into a longterm arrangement. I have been seeing the one for just over 3 1/2 years, which is why the number is so high. I am also frequently seeing 2-3 woman at the same time.
As for age group I usually am looking in the 19-24 age group and my sweet spot over the years has been between 19-22. Having said that, my longterm arrangement was 21 when we first meet and she just recently turned 25. Also, the most recent woman I started seeing is a much older women who is 28 LOL. I turn 60 in a few months so getting a response from the younger ones is getting more difficult dispute the fact I lie about my age.
As for body type, I am slim and up to curvy, but not really thick, and well above average in looks. I know some avoid the hotter woman thinking they might have stuck up attitude, which is sometimes true, but if find one without the attitude they love to fuck as much as an average looking woman does. If I am going to spend the time and money on this there is no way I am settling for average.
As for location, the majority of the time it is a hotel and there have been a few that have lived alone and we meet at their place. I have also occasionally had them at my place. Prior the the pandemic I had one that would come to my place in the morning after my wife left for work, but now my wife works from home. There have been a variety of other places, one had a friend who let us use their place when they were at work, I have had 6 or 7 who have come to my office after work hours and had one who loved to do it in the car when we just had time for a quickie. Sometimes it helps to use you imagination instead of just doing the same thing all the time.
I don't think I have ever had to end an arrangement because she had psychological problems, I try to weed those out at the front end and never get involved with them. I did have the one that ghosted me earlier this year. Here is summary of who over the last yr or so and why things ended, not include the one I have been seeing for fee 3 years.
1. 21 yr old African American woman I was seeing on and off since she was 19 and it ended last summer. She was using me for sex until she found a older rich guy to marry, which she finally did. They are schedule to get married next July.
2. 21 yr old college student who is the one that ghosted me. She was the definition of hot college girl. Saw her from July to December and than she stopped responding to me, which was perplexing since we got along well and have no idea why she stopped seeing me or even communicating. She was back in seeking about a month later and from her new photos it looked like she may put the money I gave her toward breast augmentation, which was not needed.
3. 22 yr old who I had been pursuing off and on for over a yr and we finally hooked up. She was a lot of fun and great in bed, but her communication was horrible. Saw her 5 or 6 times and than decided to move on. It also looks like she now has a boyfriend. I attached a photo of her body, she definitely was not thick.
4. 22 yr old who I only saw couple times. We had fun and real issues, but something seemed little off with her and just drifted apart.
5. 28 yr old I just started seeing in June. She more on the curvy side compared to the others. Her photos on her profile are so good they almost look fake, but they were really her.
Probably more information than you wanted.
Member #6100
08-06-22, 20:05
How often I seem them really varies, but usually 1-3 times per month if it turns into a longterm arrangement. I have been seeing the one for just over 3 1/2 years, which is why the number is so high. I am also frequently seeing 2-3 woman at the same time.
As for age group I usually am looking in the 19-24 age group and my sweet spot over the years has been between 19-22. Having said that, my longterm arrangement was 21 when we first meet and she just recently turned 25. Also, the most recent woman I started seeing is a much older women who is 28 LOL. I turn 60 in a few months so getting a response from the younger ones is getting more difficult dispute the fact I lie about my age.
As for body type, I am slim and up to curvy, but not really thick, and well above average in looks. I know some avoid the hotter woman thinking they might have stuck up attitude, which is sometimes true, but if find one without the attitude they love to fuck as much as an average looking woman does. If I am going to spend the time and money on this there is no way I am settling for average.
As for location, the majority of the time it is a hotel and there have been a few that have lived alone and we meet at their place. I have also occasionally had them at my place. Prior the the pandemic I had one that would come to my place in the morning after my wife left for work, but now my wife works from home. There have been a variety of other places, one had a friend who let us use their place when they were at work, I have had 6 or 7 who have come to my office after work hours and had one who loved to do it in the car when we just had time for a quickie. Sometimes it helps to use you imagination instead of just doing the same thing all the time.
I don't think I have ever had to end an arrangement because she had psychological problems, I try to weed those out at the front end and never get involved with them. I did have the one that ghosted me earlier this year. Here is summary of who over the last yr or so and why things ended, not include the one I have been seeing for fee 3 years.
1. 21 yr old African American woman I was seeing on and off since she was 19 and it ended last summer. She was using me for sex until she found a older rich guy to marry, which she finally did. They are schedule to get married next July.
2. 21 yr old college student who is the one that ghosted me. She was the definition of hot college girl. Saw her from July to December and than she stopped responding to me, which was perplexing since we got along well and have no idea why she stopped seeing me or even communicating. She was back in seeking about a month later and from her new photos it looked like she may put the money I gave her toward breast augmentation, which was not needed.
3. 22 yr old who I had been pursuing off and on for over a yr and we finally hooked up. She was a lot of fun and great in bed, but her communication was horrible. Saw her 5 or 6 times and than decided to move on. It also looks like she now has a boyfriend. I attached a photo of her body, she definitely was not thick.
4. 22 yr old who I only saw couple times. We had fun and real issues, but something seemed little off with her and just drifted apart.
5. 28 yr old I just started seeing in June. She more on the curvy side compared to the others. Her photos on her profile are so good they almost look fake, but they were really her.
Probably more information than you wanted.Thanks for sharing all that! Very interesting! I am around your age but look younger I am told.
I will share some of the train wrecks that I recall over the past two or three years:
18 or 19-year-old Korean girl that was enrolled in a private high school and living with a host family. Smoking body and great sex. Decent communication. Dated maybe 4 months. Out of the blue, she said she needed to go home. Back to Korea with her family. She admitted later that she had told her host family she was going to commit suicide. Nothing to do with her circumstances, just crashed for no good reason.
Asian 21-year-old that was smart and fun to text with, but didn't want to rush into sex. I kept in touch with her for six months and gave her less than 1 K for all our lunches. Then she told me a bigger chuck of change would open the door to sex. So tried it and of course, nothing changed. I ended it.
Asian 21-year-old attending college. Sex was pretty good but communication was very inconsistent, which upset me for a variety of reasons. We were on and off again for 18 months. Very quirky, the mother is nuts, no father, etc. Never said thank you for extra help when most normal people would do so. Might lean toward women more than men. Very beautiful face and hot body. Oh well. Reminds me of the flaws that I perceive in many young women. Self-centered, inconsistent communication, do not show appreciation.
Asian 28-year-old, very intelligent, was on her own in China at age 12, would go quiet on me when depressed, told me after our arrangement ended that I had likely saved her from suicide. She left MN and ghosted me.
Here are a few more recent ones:
20-year-old Latina, very quiet, I am the only guy she has ever fucked. Generally reliable, but works a lot and has limited availability. Happily, the arrangement has been pretty much drama free.
26-year-old Asian, recently broke up with long term boyfriend, has a full-time job, parents were messed up so she grew up with siblings, she continued to live with the boyfriend's parents. And possibly the boyfriend. Even after they broke up. After about three dates with her. Say maybe six weeks. She crashed mentally and went to live with her sister. The sister treated her like a prisoner that needed to be watched so no more sugar dating. Last thing I heard she was going to live with family out of state. She ghosted me. She was very passionate and had some really good sex.
26-year-old foreign Latina student. Living with a host family that watches her. English is so so. Intelligent, sweet, and honest. Reliable so far. Very worried that someone will see her with an older guy, wants to be very discreet. After two dates we have been to third base but have not crossed home base yet, but that will change on the next date.
I have many more that I texted a few times but never met.
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NerdyGuy12
08-15-22, 21:41
I noticed this one popped up again on both SA and a pro site, quoting 300 for an hour. Going to try and see her later tonight.
https://www.minnesotaerotica.com/classified/north-loop-30-amazing-header-and-more/
https://members.seeking.com/member/8302edd1-68fb-47a0-ba7a-6a2a4f6cd510
Yes, I've seen her a few times for $$$ 5. More of a pro than a sugar baby, but she's very hot, reasonable price, and a good menu (BBFSCIP, BBBJ, etc). She hosts at her apartment in Uptown and prefers to meet there and get right to it vs doing the meet and greet thing.
I noticed this one popped up again on both SA and a pro site, quoting 300 for an hour. Going to try and see her later tonight.
https://www.minnesotaerotica.com/classified/north-loop-30-amazing-header-and-more/
https://members.seeking.com/member/8302edd1-68fb-47a0-ba7a-6a2a4f6cd510How did it go? I had her scheduled for Monday evening and she ghosted. Now that she is advertising on ME, she'll probably have a line out the door.
NerdyGuy12
08-16-22, 10:23
We didn't end up connecting. Not her fault. I'm trying for tonight now.
How did it go? I had her scheduled for Monday evening and she ghosted. Now that she is advertising on ME, she'll probably have a line out the door.
PenilePerson15
08-16-22, 11:35
We didn't end up connecting. Not her fault. I'm trying for tonight now.I've interacted with her too and wonder about those pics, they appear to be different women. She also texted me this pic a few weeks ago. Not saying she isn't legit, just saying maybe don't expect the girl in the pics. She also used to host in Uptown and now North Loop. I've narrowly missed her a few times and have moved on.
Nino Pacino
08-16-22, 12:50
I've interacted with her too and wonder about those pics, they appear to be different women. She also texted me this pic a few weeks ago. Not saying she isn't legit, just saying maybe don't expect the girl in the pics. She also used to host in Uptown and now North Loop. I've narrowly missed her a few times and have moved on.No, that pic is her. I can vouch for her. She's great.
NerdyGuy12
08-17-22, 07:44
Yeah, I ended up seeing her and can confirm too. She's hot and loves to get creampied. I guess she was having some issue with her phone if you've been having trouble getting ahold of her.
No, that pic is her. I can vouch for her. She's great.
Member #6100
08-17-22, 19:15
Yeah, I ended up seeing her and can confirm too. She's hot and loves to get creampied. I guess she was having some issue with her phone if you've been having trouble getting ahold of her.How much PPM?
I have been texting Natty / OnthDL / NeverEnough? Whatever since June 2021.
She always makes a date and then disappears.
Sounds so much like CreamyGal. Oh well, glad some actually had fun with her.
Yeah, I ended up seeing her and can confirm too. She's hot and loves to get creampied. I guess she was having some issue with her phone if you've been having trouble getting ahold of her.
Seeking SN: Iwantabellyring.
She has a phone number with 541 area code. Only offers various car date options.
Will not meet in public, and rants off how I will force her to do things against her will, when I suggested meeting for coffee / lunch / dinner.
She sent me a few hot pictures and videos. But her crazy rants are a huge Turn Off.
Seniors DM me for her phone number, if you want to take a ride on this crazy train.
HooliganMike23
08-19-22, 15:08
I have been texting Natty / OnthDL / NeverEnough? Whatever since June 2021.
She always makes a date and then disappears.
Sounds so much like CreamyGal. Oh well, glad some actually had fun with her.She stood my buddy up today, and while texting with me stopped replying when it came time to set up a date and time to meet.
PenilePerson15
08-19-22, 15:27
She stood my buddy up today, and while texting with me stopped replying when it came time to set up a date and time to meet.Same thing happened to me couple weeks ago, she texted around noon-1 pm saying come fill me up, goes dark for 15 minutes, and then replies with "never mind I'm a little full of cum at the moment!
There must be dudes parked on her street waiting for her text, like a lottery ticket 😂.
I had a chance with CreamyGal before she vanished. She wanted same day and I couldn't--never could after that. With Natty she seemed cool with a date 2 days out but ghosted me day of so maybe her pussy is on ice after her 1st few days going at it from her public post. I had the feeling when I was texting her that she may only be really interested on a same day setup. I'm sure her phone was blown up this week LOL but that just puts her in the flake category.
I will say this, guys who are on SA do read this forum and harass women who are discussed here. Some have taken my reviews and posted it on their chat.
I have been texting Natty / OnthDL / NeverEnough? Whatever since June 2021.
She always makes a date and then disappears.
Sounds so much like CreamyGal. Oh well, glad some actually had fun with her.
Nino Pacino
08-19-22, 18:56
Same thing happened to me couple weeks ago, she texted around noon-1 pm saying come fill me up, goes dark for 15 minutes, and then replies with "never mind I'm a little full of cum at the moment!
There must be dudes parked on her street waiting for her text, like a lottery ticket..Yep, pretty much. And going bare becomes more and more risky.
I will say this, guys who are on SA do read this forum and harass women who are discussed here. Some have taken my reviews and posted it on their chat.Unfortunately this is very true, that is why I am careful who I share my best information with and don't post specific information about the good ones here.
For example, this week I meet a woman who moved to Minneapolis area about a year ago. She had several long term arrangements in Florida before she moved back. She was 24 yrs old, a nice girl, attractive, good conversation offered multiple rounds and let me finish inside her. Overall, very solid experience that I am guessing most who read this forum would love as it was no drama and good sex with a attractive young woman. But no way in hell am I ever going to post her profile information or even blindly share it through a DM for exactly that reason. I wish things were different and I could share more information as I have in the past but there are just too many assholes who read this and do shit like that while contributing nothing back.
She also had an interesting perspective on her overall experience with the men in the Minneapolis are and it is not favorable. It doesn't have anything to do with money, but the way majority of men in the Minneapolis area who are on Seeking act and they way they treat the woman compared to when she was in Florida. I know we complain about many of the woman and some of the things they do, which is usually justified, but some of it my be in response to they way they have treated.
Just a thought and would be interested to hear other opinions.
Member #6100
08-20-22, 09:36
Unfortunately this is very true, that is why I am careful who I share my best information with and don't post specific information about the good ones here.
For example, this week I meet a woman who moved to Minneapolis area about a year ago. She had several long term arrangements in Florida before she moved back. She was 24 yrs old, a nice girl, attractive, good conversation offered multiple rounds and let me finish inside her. Overall, very solid experience that I am guessing most who read this forum would love as it was no drama and good sex with a attractive young woman. But no way in hell am I ever going to post her profile information or even blindly share it through a DM for exactly that reason. I wish things were different and I could share more information as I have in the past but there are just too many assholes who read this and do shit like that while contributing nothing back.
She also had an interesting perspective on her overall experience with the men in the Minneapolis are and it is not favorable. It doesn't have anything to do with money, but the way majority of men in the Minneapolis area who are on Seeking act and they way they treat the woman compared to when she was in Florida. I know we complain about many of the woman and some of the things they do, which is usually justified, but some of it my be in response to they way they have treated.
Just a thought and would be interested to hear other opinions.Did she give some examples of the poor treatment she has experienced in Minnesota?
PenilePerson15
08-22-22, 12:02
Did she give some examples of the poor treatment she has experienced in Minnesota?Not necessarily treatment related, but I've had several instances where escorts and sugars mention poor hygiene in others as major turnoffs.
Guys with shit stains in their underwear, body odor, dirty clothes, bad breath, unkempt private areas, and the like. Not sure if this is a regional thing (hooray for us if it is!) but has definitely been a theme I've heard.
It is a ruthless world.
If you do not spend time vetting, doing your homework, watching your back: You are going to be mistreated.
After being in the sugaring world for years. I have an amazing vetting process. Sadly in the past 4 months, I have not been on any meets, because no girl has passed my vetting process.
Just last week, I got an "Inflation lecture"= She is raising her prices due to inflation, from one of my regulars. She started as a SB, now turned into a Pros money hound.
That said, I have sugared in different regions of Florida. And agree, the Sugar Pool is much bigger in FL. But, same rules apply. If you do not Vet, you will Fret.
Unfortunately this is very true, that is why I am careful who I share my best information with and don't post specific information about the good ones here.
For example, this week I meet a woman who moved to Minneapolis area about a year ago. She had several long term arrangements in Florida before she moved back. She was 24 yrs old, a nice girl, attractive, good conversation offered multiple rounds and let me finish inside her. Overall, very solid experience that I am guessing most who read this forum would love as it was no drama and good sex with a attractive young woman. But no way in hell am I ever going to post her profile information or even blindly share it through a DM for exactly that reason. I wish things were different and I could share more information as I have in the past but there are just too many assholes who read this and do shit like that while contributing nothing back.
She also had an interesting perspective on her overall experience with the men in the Minneapolis are and it is not favorable. It doesn't have anything to do with money, but the way majority of men in the Minneapolis area who are on Seeking act and they way they treat the woman compared to when she was in Florida. I know we complain about many of the woman and some of the things they do, which is usually justified, but some of it my be in response to they way they have treated.
Just a thought and would be interested to hear other opinions.
FlirtyKitten: A curvy 20 yr old from Owatonna. Uses sentences like " I charge extra for that". Pass for me.
Redchick36: A 35 yr old headcase from Owatonna? Here is an exact convo: Let us talk terms before we meet. What is your allowance amount? If I approve, then I will agree to meet.
Bunnie: This is an interesting one. She sent me pictures, but said that she charges for sending explicit ones. Agreed to meet, but did not know when she was available to meet. And then mentioned she charges $100 an hour. Another hard pass.
This is a big reason I haven't resubscribed. I don't need to pay to go on platonic dates which also seems to be a popular demand now on SA.
It is a ruthless world.
If you do not spend time vetting, doing your homework, watching your back: You are going to be mistreated.
After being in the sugaring world for years. I have an amazing vetting process. Sadly in the past 4 months, I have not been on any meets, because no girl has passed my vetting process.
Just last week, I got an "Inflation lecture"= She is raising her prices due to inflation, from one of my regulars. She started as a SB, now turned into a Pros money hound.
That said, I have sugared in different regions of Florida. And agree, the Sugar Pool is much bigger in FL. But, same rules apply. If you do not Vet, you will Fret.
Member #6100
08-23-22, 16:14
This is a big reason I haven't resubscribed. I don't need to pay to go on platonic dates which also seems to be a popular demand now on SA.I feel like communicating with sugar babies via text is difficult, and a big reason that things go off the rails before an in-person meeting takes place.
The two main communication issues I face are slow replies to my texts, and misunderstanding something we are discussing. For the former, I sometimes act upset, and for the latter, it's really hard to sort out a misunderstanding via text.
I guess I should start suggesting phone calls, yet I suspect most sugar babies prefer to text.
Seeking has a video chat feature. But nobody wants to be recorded, right?
I recently met a sugar baby twice and things seemed to be going well. But then she ghosted me in the middle of a conversation. I was drunk at the time and called her out for not finishing the conversation. That was the beginning of the end. I think she is bi-polar tbh.
It is a ruthless world.
If you do not spend time vetting, doing your homework, watching your back: You are going to be mistreated.
After being in the sugaring world for years. I have an amazing vetting process. Sadly in the past 4 months, I have not been on any meets, because no girl has passed my vetting process.
Just last week, I got an "Inflation lecture"= She is raising her prices due to inflation, from one of my regulars. She started as a SB, now turned into a Pros money hound.
That said, I have sugared in different regions of Florida. And agree, the Sugar Pool is much bigger in FL. But, same rules apply. If you do not Vet, you will Fret.Do you have any tips you would be willing to share on your vetting that go beyond the obvious? Might be helpful to less experienced people who read this. I posted some a while back in post #749, not sure everyone agrees with those but it has worked for me.
I feel like communicating with sugar babies via text is difficult, and a big reason that things go off the rails before an in-person meeting takes place.
The two main communication issues I face are slow replies to my texts, and misunderstanding something we are discussing. For the former, I sometimes act upset, and for the latter, it's really hard to sort out a misunderstanding via text.
I guess I should start suggesting phone calls, yet I suspect most sugar babies prefer to text.
Seeking has a video chat feature. But nobody wants to be recorded, right?
I recently met a sugar baby twice and things seemed to be going well. But then she ghosted me in the middle of a conversation. I was drunk at the time and called her out for not finishing the conversation. That was the beginning of the end. I think she is bi-polar tbh.In a way you have answered your own question from a few days ago regarding mistreatment. Since knowledge is power when I meet someone new from Seeking I casually ask questions about their previous experiences and what they like and what they didn't like. I may also ask what prompted them to respond to my message, was it something about the message or something they like in my profile. I would also ask if there was anything that might be red flag in what they saw from me. Over the years this has greatly helped me improved my success rate by updating my profile and my how I approached the woman.
A couple things that are almost universal in their response is they don't like it when guys are controlling and act like they own them or are disrespectful. These may not be the biggest issues, but they are both certainly in the top 5 of dislikes from the woman's prospective and you hit on both in your post.
First, getting upset because you don't get a quick response is seen as controlling and big red flag from their perspective. For example they have personal lives and could be out with friends or family and not in a position to respond. If you are paying several thousand dollars per month for an exclusive arrangement I think you might have more of an argument. But in a PPM arrangement they don't feel like they need to stop what they are doing and response to a guys text immediately and I don't necessarily disagree with them.
Obviously, if you are trying to schedule something that day or the next and time is of the essence then expecting a quick reply certainly understandable.
As for the other issue, there is no kind way to say it but drunk texting is seen as about as disrespectful as anything you could do. Granted there are certain arrangements where it can be playfully done, but that is not the norm. If you have an arrangement you would like to end it quickly, ghosting or drunk texting are two of the most effective ways.
This post is not meant to be critical or judgmental as I don't don't know anything about your specific situations, I am just sharing what I have learned from talking with many different women I have met through Seeking.
Member #6100
08-25-22, 22:26
In a way you have answered your own question from a few days ago regarding mistreatment. Since knowledge is power when I meet someone new from Seeking I casually ask questions about their previous experiences and what they like and what they didn't like. I may also ask what prompted them to respond to my message, was it something about the message or something they like in my profile. I would also ask if there was anything that might be red flag in what they saw from me. Over the years this has greatly helped me improved my success rate by updating my profile and my how I approached the woman.
A couple things that are almost universal in their response is they don't like it when guys are controlling and act like they own them or are disrespectful. These may not be the biggest issues, but they are both certainly in the top 5 of dislikes from the woman's prospective and you hit on both in your post.
First, . For example they have personal lives and could be out with friends or family and not in a position to respond. If you are paying several thousand dollars per month for an exclusive arrangement I think you might have more of an argument. But in a PPM arrangement they don't feel like they need to stop what they are doing and response to a guys text immediately and I don't necessarily disagree with them.
Obviously, if you are trying to schedule something that day or the next and time is of the essence then expecting a quick reply certainly understandable.
As for the other issue, there is no kind way to say it but drunk texting is seen as about as disrespectful as anything you could do. Granted there are certain arrangements where it can be playfully done, but that is not the norm. If you have an arrangement you would like to end it quickly, ghosting or drunk texting are two of the most effective ways.
This post is not meant to be critical or judgmental as I don't don't know anything about your specific situations, I am just sharing what I have learned from talking with many different women I have met through Seeking.Thanks for the great feedback! Your screening questions are excellent, assuming the sugar baby is willing to reply. The slow responses to text issue is interesting. Yes, when a sugar baby is slow to reply and is called out on that she may say don't try to control me. But on the other hand there are so many sugar babies that ghost daddies, and sugar babies must understand why sugar daddies get worried and upset with slow replies. I think sugar babies want it both ways. They enjoy the extra attention they get when they are slow to reply to the daddie's text, but then when they are called out for slow replies they play the don't control me card. Of course we are talking about the five to ten percent of sugar babies that will actually communicate for more than a few texts. The rest of them go silent after a few days. If you want backup for that idea, just look at how many profiles go dead after a week on Seeking.
Just wanted to thank you.
This is good info and saves us all some time and a headache dealing with the flakes, poor communication, craziness and scams that want to be paid just to show up for a first meeting.
Here are a few Seeking Screen names, that are best to avoid, unless you want unnecessary drama:
Seraphina: Major headcase. Another crazy from the 507 area code.
PrimaDonna: This one is interesting. Calls out of the blue, multiple times. Claims she butt dialed.
FlirtyBae: Basic questions annoy her. Wants $4 to meet and a ride to the cities.
Also, for sheer volume, fun, and bang for buck nothing beats Seeking. I have tried them all and more.
First, thanks for info.
One thing I've learned is that is any girl charges any money before the "meet & greet" (explicit pics, gas, etc.) that's a scam.
FlirtyKitten: A curvy 20 yr old from Owatonna. Uses sentences like " I charge extra for that". Pass for me.
Redchick36: A 35 yr old headcase from Owatonna? Here is an exact convo: Let us talk terms before we meet. What is your allowance amount? If I approve, then I will agree to meet.
Bunnie: This is an interesting one. She sent me pictures, but said that she charges for sending explicit ones. Agreed to meet, but did not know when she was available to meet. And then mentioned she charges $100 an hour. Another hard pass.
What he said.
This is helpful info for the most part.
If anyone disagrees with info posted, please use your own personal filter. Experiences can be vary for different people.
I was going to say don't be such a fucking asshole, but looks like you are new so will try to give you the benefit of the doubt. I guess the point of the board is post information or experiences they want to share with others. This will hopefully help people have success on the various SB sites. Also, since these are experiences that can't always be shared with even the closest friends it is an outlet share them with others here.
We have enough trouble getting people to post on this board, so we don't need trolls or others questioning what is posted or discouraging people to post about their experiences either good or bad.
This is good perspective, thank you for taking the time to post for our benefit.
I've been on Seeking for about 5 years and have some thoughts about what you've said.
Your points (very well organized, if I may say so):
1. Increase in fake / scam profiles.
2. Online only.
3. Selling pictures.
4. Platonic only (seriously, when the hell did that even become an option).
5. Increase in number of professional escorts.
6. Inactive / not serious about an arrangement profiles.
MY comments below:
# 2 and # 3 are a product of Covid. SA used to actively discourage this and remove these profile, but I seem to see far more of these profiles around over the past year or so. These girls are just taking advantage that SA seems to have become more lax. Or perhaps this could be SA's way of getting more profiles on their site? I don't know.
# 4 seems crazy but I feel its a product of 2 situations -.
(a) SA has actively started cracking down on language used that denotes anything related to money or negotiation and "platonic" seems to be a way to escape the SA algorithm.
(b) There are genuinely many girls (far more so of late) who think guys will pay for them to just be arm candy. Its a seriously WTF situation for many of us but if there are truly some desperate SDs (and perhaps grandpa types) who pay for this silliness, it destroys the market for the 80% of us who think its a WTF profile.
I haven't seen a rise in # 5, but I can't argue with someone who's done the research; I haven't.
# 6 seems to be a stunning increase over the past year, I did do the research on this, its a brand new category. You'll see the difference between the profile creation date and the last active date. They're sometime as little as 1 day apart, many average a week apart. But the crazy thing is the last active date is from months ago! That implies they either found their SD in a day or a week (given higher number of guys on SA, it could be possible, but I doubt it) or they just flaked out and disappeared. If its the latter, how come that proportion increased over the past year?
I can (anecdotally of course) see that the proportion of these types have increased from being rare (< 1%) in 2019 and 2020 to being easily 10-15% of the profiles these days! Depends on search criteria of course, but the trend seems to hold true.
Does anyone have an explanation that would make more sense, for this phenomenon?
As a percentage wise, I don't think I agree with that, but my opinion is the number of legitimate profiles has decreased dramatically over the last few years. When I first started in the site I tracked the number of profiles within 50 and 100 miles of Minneapolis. This was not a scientific process but would just pay attention to the numbers.
When I joined in 2015 there were about 6800 profiles within 50 miles of Minneapolis. That number grew somewhat steadily of the years and although I didn't record them I seem to recall the number reaching around 8500 and was over 10,000 if you expanded to 100 miles.
Then you have to account for fake or inactive profiles and those that were really not serious about and arrangement. I estimated this to be 25-30% of the overall profiles going back a few yrs.
Today there are 7460 profiles within 50 miles, which isn't that different. But the change is really in the number of legitimate profiles. Now you have to deal with:.
Thanks for posting this.
I was wondering why she ghosted me for no reason, after a long back and forth (July 2022 for reference for other guys).
This explains why. I was discussing a long term arrangement with her.
Love this site for the help it provides!
Yes, I've seen her a few times for $$$ 5. More of a pro than a sugar baby, but she's very hot, reasonable price, and a good menu (BBFSCIP, BBBJ, etc). She hosts at her apartment in Uptown and prefers to meet there and get right to it vs doing the meet and greet thing.
This may be a bit late, but I've met this girl.
She wanted me to pick her up at the Starbucks on 55/ Winnetka and then go straight to her place without even discussing the amount.
When I asked again, she said "oh we'll discuss at my place". However, she'd already told me that her "ex-bf" was getting us a room at a hotel close by.
Don't know what she's on, but I ran like hell. Lots of red flags with this one.
She used to post as "Babyrose" or something like that, out of New Hope in 2020.
She's slim, face about 5 or 6, body about 8 or 9. Showed up with no bra and her nips were poking out. LOL. About 5'9 or so.
Any info on Rosy, I think I saw her advertise on tryst.
https://members.seeking.com/member/88442511-1a17-4633-b98f-610d12203046
PenilePerson15
08-29-22, 00:47
This may be a bit late, but I've met this girl.
She wanted me to pick her up at the Starbucks on 55/ Winnetka and then go straight to her place without even discussing the amount.
When I asked again, she said "oh we'll discuss at my place". However, she'd already told me that her "ex-bf" was getting us a room at a hotel close by.
Don't know what she's on, but I ran like hell. Lots of red flags with this one.
She used to post as "Babyrose" or something like that, out of New Hope in 2020.
She's slim, face about 5 or 6, body about 8 or 9. Showed up with no bra and her nips were poking out. LOL. About 5'9 or so.That's Rosy, no? Escort on Tryst, long time sugar. Has her own place now downtown apparently. Great bod, saw her twice recently, first time was good, second visit I was getting heavy opiate vibes, noticed arm bruising and completely dead fished her way through things.
Sounds about right.
That's Rosy, no? Escort on Tryst, long time sugar. Has her own place now downtown apparently. Great bod, saw her twice recently, first time was good, second visit I was getting heavy opiate vibes, noticed arm bruising and completely dead fished her way through things.
WiseTraveler
08-29-22, 20:47
This is good perspective, thank you for taking the time to post for our benefit....
I can (anecdotally of course) see that the proportion of these types have increased from being rare (< 1%) in 2019 and 2020 to being easily 10-15% of the profiles these days! Depends on search criteria of course, but the trend seems to hold true.
Does anyone have an explanation that would make more sense, for this phenomenon?
I'll add my thanks to both posters. My take:
I think there's a significant increase in organized scams, similar to the plague of ads on Escort Alligator / Babylon. Red flags:
* All three holes available.
* Incall / outcall / car date (very rare to offer all three unless bottom of the barrel and the pics are Instagram-level hotties).
* Lonely / housewife / horny.
* TG2 BT pricing / hot pics.
* Includes prominent 'sell vids / pics' - now many providers do sell but when it's clearly the actual intent, it's almost always a waste of time.
On sugar sites:
* New profile, single pic, often professional looking.
* Messages me within a week of their join date. I promise you, no new / sane SB would pick my profile. I very much it set up to dissuade most SBs that I'm not Mr. Grey, not looking for arm candy, online, platonic, or even more than 1 x / month. I might as have it be *Salt Daddy. The only deposit I'll make is in your pussy⟨™⟩*
* Very short descriptions, often clearly not native writer but pic looks all American.
* Honey trap type. New pics, enticing 'open minded', 'message me now', 'let's meet' - sometimes pros but usually more trying to get you to meet quickly, doesn't even blink at a lowball # (150 bones. SURE!) But wants to meet ASAP and thennnnn comes the hammer: "I need money for gas" or "I need money for my security". WTF does a deposit have to do with security?
It's easy money and there are enough gullible dudes out there that make it worthwhile. The sites have little incentive to clean it up as it pumps the #s up and makes it look active. Two years ago I could go through 1500 profiles within 50 miles of MSP before I got past 'last logged in more than a week ago' - now it's more like 700 and there's a higher % of fake profiles and toe dippers. I usually end up taking two hours and blocking (hide often doesn't take) the eternal SBs, I know my worth!, I deserve. , online / platonic / tranny, fake eyebrow / WTF DID YOU DO TO YOUR FACE? Crowd.
That all said, it's still the best game around. I can almost always find a '7/ cute enough for me' enthusiastic almost anything goes SB for $200-300 who seems to enjoy our arrangement. I've stayed friendly with two for 2 and 5 years respectively.
Member #6100
08-29-22, 22:06
I'll add my thanks to both posters. My take:
I think there's a significant increase in organized scams, similar to the plague of ads on Escort Alligator / Babylon. Red flags:
* All three holes available.
* Incall / outcall / car date (very rare to offer all three unless bottom of the barrel and the pics are Instagram-level hotties).
* Lonely / housewife / horny.
* TG2 BT pricing / hot pics.
* Includes prominent 'sell vids / pics' - now many providers do sell but when it's clearly the actual intent, it's almost always a waste of time.
On sugar sites:
* New profile, single pic, often professional looking.
* Messages me within a week of their join date. I promise you, no new / sane SB would pick my profile. I very much it set up to dissuade most SBs that I'm not Mr. Grey, not looking for arm candy, online, platonic, or even more than 1 x / month. I might as have it be *Salt Daddy. The only deposit I'll make is in your pussy⟨⟩*
* Very short descriptions, often clearly not native writer but pic looks all American.
* Honey trap type. New pics, enticing 'open minded', 'message me now', 'let's meet' - sometimes pros but usually more trying to get you to meet quickly, doesn't even blink at a lowball # (150 bones. SURE!) But wants to meet ASAP and thennnnn comes the hammer: "I need money for gas" or "I need money for my security". WTF does a deposit have to do with security?
It's easy money and there are enough gullible dudes out there that make it worthwhile. The sites have little incentive to clean it up as it pumps the #s up and makes it look active. Two years ago I could go through 1500 profiles within 50 miles of MSP before I got past 'last logged in more than a week ago' - now it's more like 700 and there's a higher % of fake profiles and toe dippers. I usually end up taking two hours and blocking (hide often doesn't take) the eternal SBs, I know my worth!, I deserve. , online / platonic / tranny, fake eyebrow / WTF DID YOU DO TO YOUR FACE? Crowd.
That all said, it's still the best game around. I can almost always find a '7/ cute enough for me' enthusiastic almost anything goes SB for $200-300 who seems to enjoy our arrangement. I've stayed friendly with two for 2 and 5 years respectively.Great points! Why do you think the number of sugar baby profiles has dropped so much over the past few years?
HardWoodsman
08-30-22, 00:58
Great points! Why do you think the number of sugar baby profiles has dropped so much over the past few years?Covid and only-fans. Why meet someone when you can use the pics you send your boyfriend and have guys pay you for them.
HardWoodsman
08-30-22, 01:38
That's Rosy, no? Escort on Tryst, long time sugar. Has her own place now downtown apparently. Great bod, saw her twice recently, first time was good, second visit I was getting heavy opiate vibes, noticed arm bruising and completely dead fished her way through things.Rosy / Ruby and her older sister Ava have been posting for years on SA. Each has had numerous profiles. Rosy will try to do as little as possible. Ava is the better date but is just as much the hustler as her sister.
Member #6100
08-30-22, 10:53
I'll add my thanks to both posters. My take:
I think there's a significant increase in organized scams, similar to the plague of ads on Escort Alligator / Babylon. Red flags:
* All three holes available.
* Incall / outcall / car date (very rare to offer all three unless bottom of the barrel and the pics are Instagram-level hotties).
* Lonely / housewife / horny.
* TG2 BT pricing / hot pics.
* Includes prominent 'sell vids / pics' - now many providers do sell but when it's clearly the actual intent, it's almost always a waste of time.
On sugar sites:
* New profile, single pic, often professional looking.
* Messages me within a week of their join date. I promise you, no new / sane SB would pick my profile. I very much it set up to dissuade most SBs that I'm not Mr. Grey, not looking for arm candy, online, platonic, or even more than 1 x / month. I might as have it be *Salt Daddy. The only deposit I'll make is in your pussy⟨⟩*
* Very short descriptions, often clearly not native writer but pic looks all American.
* Honey trap type. New pics, enticing 'open minded', 'message me now', 'let's meet' - sometimes pros but usually more trying to get you to meet quickly, doesn't even blink at a lowball # (150 bones. SURE!) But wants to meet ASAP and thennnnn comes the hammer: "I need money for gas" or "I need money for my security". WTF does a deposit have to do with security?
It's easy money and there are enough gullible dudes out there that make it worthwhile. The sites have little incentive to clean it up as it pumps the #s up and makes it look active. Two years ago I could go through 1500 profiles within 50 miles of MSP before I got past 'last logged in more than a week ago' - now it's more like 700 and there's a higher % of fake profiles and toe dippers. I usually end up taking two hours and blocking (hide often doesn't take) the eternal SBs, I know my worth!, I deserve. , online / platonic / tranny, fake eyebrow / WTF DID YOU DO TO YOUR FACE? Crowd.
That all said, it's still the best game around. I can almost always find a '7/ cute enough for me' enthusiastic almost anything goes SB for $200-300 who seems to enjoy our arrangement. I've stayed friendly with two for 2 and 5 years respectively.A few days ago I bought credits on Secret Benefits. A few observations:
-Surprising number of 18 year old profiles, and average age much lower than Seeking.
- Lots of unsolicated favorites to my profile, but when messaging these likes, practically no responses. So as comapred to Seeking, way more unsolicated favorties but way less response to messages. Very odd considering that the ladies on Secret Benefits should get way less messages than the ladies on Seeking. Why? It costs money for each message a daddy sends on SB.
-Profiles language on SB are missing the typical poor grammer and typos that appear on Seeking. Makes me wonder if the site is editing the profiles.
All in all a very disappointing experience so far.
A few days ago I bought credits on Secret Benefits. A few observations:
Why? It costs money for each message a daddy sends on SB.
I think you answered the question.
Feels like a site tactic (perhaps a bot) to generate more revenue, to get the SD to spend credits replying to profiles of younger ladies.
PhillipPlein
08-30-22, 12:16
Do you still have Avas number? I remember reaching out awhile ago and it was pretty difficult to get a response.
Rosy / Ruby and her older sister Ava have been posting for years on SA. Each has had numerous profiles. Rosy will try to do as little as possible. Ava is the better date but is just as much the hustler as her sister.
Member #6100
08-30-22, 15:01
I think you answered the question.
Feels like a site tactic (perhaps a bot) to generate more revenue, to get the SD to spend credits replying to profiles of younger ladies.You are spot on. According to a forum on Reddit, ex-employees of Secret Bots I mean Benefits have confirmed the use of Bots.
Does anyone have an explanation that would make more sense, for this phenomenon?Covid made everyone rich. Everyone made $56,000 for two years. Minnesota was the worst in the USA. They paid and paid. And kept paying. We need a depression to hit HARD. That will reset things.
https://members.seeking.com/member/015871c6-093b-405c-831e-90c99d2e27cd
https://members.seeking.com/member/015871c6-093b-405c-831e-90c99d2e27cdI met up with her today. Not rushed at all. Excellent BBBJ, options for BBFS -- was a good time.
MrBreeder2
09-06-22, 08:46
https://members.seeking.com/member/015871c6-093b-405c-831e-90c99d2e27cdI've met her before. We are meeting again this week. She's going to wear a skirt so my load drops down her leg at dinner and afterwards. She's definitely into BBFS. I'd keep her to myself but I have other options.
I was going message this MILF by purchasing premium, but Seeking suspended my account.
Would anyone willing to private message me her digits? I was hoping to set something up while I'm in town.
I've met her before. We are meeting again this week. She's going to wear a skirt so my load drops down her leg at dinner and afterwards. She's definitely into BBFS. I'd keep her to myself but I have other options.
A few days ago I bought credits on Secret Benefits. A few observations:
-Surprising number of 18 year old profiles, and average age much lower than Seeking.
- Lots of unsolicated favorites to my profile, but when messaging these likes, practically no responses. So as comapred to Seeking, way more unsolicated favorties but way less response to messages. Very odd considering that the ladies on Secret Benefits should get way less messages than the ladies on Seeking. Why? It costs money for each message a daddy sends on SB.
-Profiles language on SB are missing the typical poor grammer and typos that appear on Seeking. Makes me wonder if the site is editing the profiles.
All in all a very disappointing experience so far.A agree Secret Benefits is disappointing. I've bought credits 3 times with little success so I stopped buying credits. I was lucky enough to actually meet a really nice girl and we meet regularly but the effort and money are not worth continuing in my opinion.
WiseTraveler
09-08-22, 15:19
A agree Secret Benefits is disappointing. I've bought credits 3 times with little success so I stopped buying credits. I was lucky enough to actually meet a really nice girl and we meet regularly but the effort and money are not worth continuing in my opinion.* Never reply to unsolicited messages. Secretbenefits has bots and there are enough time wasters / scammers who carpet bomb message that it's a waste of time.
* Don't pay to boost your message, see read receipts or to see hidden pictures. It's all just ways to get you to burn through your credits.
* Skip any who like they have professional pics. They're usually bots or think you'll give them thousands to chat with them.
1. Set up your filters and save links of potentials a spreadsheet or blank email. I don't use Favorite as it alerts them and nags you to message them.
2. Choose which ones you are truly interested in for PPM / quick hits and rank top to bottom.
3. Start messaging 1-2 at a time and transition to text then meets. Repeat.
4. Refresh and rerank your list every few weeks. Long term, even take an hour and block the annoying / super active ones you aren't interested in.
Your credits will last longer that way.
Secret benefits is better for short term / PMM, especially for travel.
* Never reply to unsolicited messages. Secretbenefits has bots and there are enough time wasters / scammers who carpet bomb message that it's a waste of time.
* Don't pay to boost your message, see read receipts or to see hidden pictures. It's all just ways to get you to burn through your credits.
* Skip any who like they have professional pics. They're usually bots or think you'll give them thousands to chat with them.
1. Set up your filters and save links of potentials a spreadsheet or blank email. I don't use Favorite as it alerts them and nags you to message them.
2. Choose which ones you are truly interested in for PPM / quick hits and rank top to bottom.
3. Start messaging 1-2 at a time and transition to text then meets. Repeat.
4. Refresh and rerank your list every few weeks. Long term, even take an hour and block the annoying / super active ones you aren't interested in.
Your credits will last longer that way.
Secret benefits is better for short term / PMM, especially for travel.Thanks for the advise. The site also is set up to make you spend credits when you don't want to like needing to uncheck private photos and I have hit the request private pics by accident. I know my fault but that just suck! I was really on there to try yo get the 18 or 19 YO babies but that is probably the toughest. I've had a few first meets. Buy lunch kind of thing but I am probably to old! One thing I do look for is pictures that are actually from the area. Taking a break for awhile. I still have my one success to see.
Member #6100
09-08-22, 23:06
Thanks for the advise. The site also is set up to make you spend credits when you don't want to like needing to uncheck private photos and I have hit the request private pics by accident. I know my fault but that just suck! I was really on there to try yo get the 18 or 19 YO babies but that is probably the toughest. I've had a few first meets. Buy lunch kind of thing but I am probably to old! One thing I do look for is pictures that are actually from the area. Taking a break for awhile. I still have my one success to see.I have tried Secret Bots (Benefits) a few times. I got many unsolicited messages from hot profiles, many more than on Seeking, but the response rate to messages is much lower than Seeking. You can draw your own conclusions about whether the messages are coming from bots on a site where it costs money to send each message. Even when I initiated the message the response rate was horrible as compared to Seeking.
NerdyGuy12
09-11-22, 23:36
I'd appreciate Ameenah's digits, as well.
I was going message this MILF by purchasing premium, but Seeking suspended my account.
Would anyone willing to private message me her digits? I was hoping to set something up while I'm in town.
Member #6100
09-12-22, 14:24
I'd appreciate Ameenah's digits, as well.Can you post the link?
FunGuySeattle
09-13-22, 19:45
Still hoping someone may have AJs # saved.
I was trying to set something up with AJ but seem to have lost her # and am locked out of my account. Anyone that could hook me up with it again or a review would be much appreciated.
NerdyGuy12
09-14-22, 21:24
Sure. Managed to get her number, so we'll see how it goes.
https://members.seeking.com/member/015871c6-093b-405c-831e-90c99d2e27cd
Can you post the link?
HardWoodsman
09-17-22, 08:57
Frenchieinmn.
Any reports on this MILF? She been on the site for 3 years. One of you must have taken a ride. Post or PM.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c4b8b07d-fe97-4720-adbd-d32e9a1c374d
Member #6100
09-17-22, 15:00
Wow.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b1d6f7b0-ef00-4d65-babe-9f00b5912d23
Yep:
https://www.instagram.com/oliviacastaxx/?hl=en
ParkingGuy
09-17-22, 16:53
Wow.
https://members.seeking.com/member/b1d6f7b0-ef00-4d65-babe-9f00b5912d23
Yep:
https://www.instagram.com/oliviacastaxx/?hl=enI noticed her profile as well on Seeking. I had a gut feel the ad was not legit. That begs another question. Is her profile a bot? Is the ad from a scammer? Did the site create the profile? I sense there are several non legit profiles and have always wondered where they originate and the motives.
AaronForks
09-17-22, 18:29
She's legit. Active in the local LS community.
Frenchieinmn.
Any reports on this MILF? She been on the site for 3 years. One of you must have taken a ride. Post or PM.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c4b8b07d-fe97-4720-adbd-d32e9a1c374d
Member #6100
09-20-22, 13:46
I noticed her profile as well on Seeking. I had a gut feel the ad was not legit. That begs another question. Is her profile a bot? Is the ad from a scammer? Did the site create the profile? I sense there are several non legit profiles and have always wondered where they originate and the motives.Yes I also wonder about the motives for the many fake profiles.
Member #6100
09-20-22, 20:41
I am a regular member. Are any of you having any luck with ladies between 20 and 35 that are not pros?
I am a regular member. Are any of you having any luck with ladies between 20 and 35 that are not pros?Yes, with the most active age group being 24-28, although I had a nice time with a 20 year old last week. I have been trying to target ones that had previously had arrangements pre-COVID and are now back on the site for one reason or another. They seem to have the best attitude and not caught up in the BS that is so prevalent these days.
Curiosity413
09-20-22, 23:45
Has anyone ever seen Sparkleplants before? She looks cute. Wonder if she has an Onylfans.
https://members.seeking.com/member/d4364497-2e89-49cb-bd1f-57bfa759d490
The games continue:
AdorableNerd= 657 area code. Open for anything as as long as you Venmo 50 to at jmtgoun7.
Lucky Girlfriend777= Headcase. She has moved on to other candidates, cause I do not meet her communication standards.
Loraaura= 919 area code. Will not share pictures on text. Wants 500 for a platonic meet. Wanted my pictures. When I refused, I was told to go Fmyself.
Mostly silence from:
Sugarbqbylily.
DaddysBaby.
Seniors, if you want phone numbers of any of the girls listed, DM me.
MaWilliams
09-22-22, 07:52
The games continue:
AdorableNerd= 657 area code. Open for anything as as long as you Venmo 50 to at jmtgoun7.
Lucky Girlfriend777= Headcase. She has moved on to other candidates, cause I do not meet her communication standards.
Loraaura= 919 area code. Will not share pictures on text. Wants 500 for a platonic meet. Wanted my pictures. When I refused, I was told to go Fmyself.
Mostly silence from:
Sugarbqbylily.
DaddysBaby.
Seniors, if you want phone numbers of any of the girls listed, DM me.I had the same experience with Adorablenerd and Loraaura. A lot of scammers on the site right now or looking for online and platonic.
I noticed her profile as well on Seeking. I had a gut feel the ad was not legit. That begs another question. Is her profile a bot? Is the ad from a scammer? Did the site create the profile? I sense there are several non legit profiles and have always wondered where they originate and the motives.I'm fairly sure the site has started doing two things that they weren't doing before:
1) They're creating some profiles themselves.
2) They're not clamping down on the "online only" ads like they used to.
Reasoning:
There are far too many of the "online only" ads these days. More like a proliferation. Their AI tools would've caught these a long time ago. The only reason they aren't, is because the site wants to generate more traffic.
This could also be during Covid, girls realized they could get some gullible saps to pay for pictures that they were sending their bfs for free (not to my credit for realizing this, but someone else came up with this explanation in response to one of my questions; I agree).
They may be trying to generate some data for analysis via the fake profiles.
It could also be they're working with LE as well and creating entrapment cases.
What do you guys think?
I had a nice time with her:
https://members.seeking.com/member/2545f84f-b69b-4be7-aff7-0a10560af428
Not a full menu: covered only, no oral. But a nice tight body, very pleasant personality, and eager to please.
Member #6100
09-24-22, 11:59
I'm fairly sure the site has started doing two things that they weren't doing before:
1) They're creating some profiles themselves.
2) They're not clamping down on the "online only" ads like they used to.
Reasoning:
There are far too many of the "online only" ads these days. More like a proliferation. Their AI tools would've caught these a long time ago. The only reason they aren't, is because the site wants to generate more traffic.
This could also be during Covid, girls realized they could get some gullible saps to pay for pictures that they were sending their bfs for free (not to my credit for realizing this, but someone else came up with this explanation in response to one of my questions; I agree).
They may be trying to generate some data for analysis via the fake profiles.
It could also be they're working with LE as well and creating entrapment cases.
What do you guys think?I did read that the founder of Seeking, Brandon Wade, hired another guy to run the company. The new guy has experience with dating platforms of course. Yes, the site is a business that needs paying customers. All of the things you mentioned are possible, but I don't think LE would approach Seeking and ask them to help, nor do I think Seeking would be willing to cooperate. LE has much easier ways of busting guys than using a sugar dating platform, imo. That said, one could ask why a multi-agency LE task force will spend six months staking out an AMP when they could simply run some fake ads on escort websites and get some same-day arrests. Could it be they want the publicity of shutting down the AMPs and showing how they are such a help to the community? Perhaps some day some sugar baby arrests would help their image as well.
Does it seem like the number of new profiles each week has dropped? I don't have any data, just a feeling I get.
I think its unlikey that Seeking is creating fake profiles. So if they are not, then I have often wondered what the motivation is of the people that create the fake profiles? Especially the profiles where the location changes every few days.
Arisvangua
09-24-22, 17:51
I had a nice time with her:
https://members.seeking.com/member/2545f84f-b69b-4be7-aff7-0a10560af428
Not a full menu: covered only, no oral. But a nice tight body, very pleasant personality, and eager to please.Not 100% sure, but I'm pretty adamant I've seen her ads before. Did she feel more like a pro?
ParkingGuy
09-24-22, 19:37
Not 100% sure, but I'm pretty adamant I've seen her ads before. Did she feel more like a pro?I had some limited interaction with her. She wanted to go right from the site to Snapchat with virtually no small talk. She also got right to the point about money and all of her rules. I found her to be rather rude and was really pushing an in person meeting within minutes of connecting on the site. I was turned off and never saw her. But, she had a total Pro vibe about her. Hard pass.
Not 100% sure, but I'm pretty adamant I've seen her ads before. Did she feel more like a pro?You could be right -- her vibe wasn't really a sugar-baby vibe. She could be a pro.
I think its unlikely that Seeking is creating fake profiles. So if they are not, then I have often wondered what the motivation is of the people that create the fake profiles? This is what I'm really confused about. What drives the proliferation of fake profiles?
Especially the profiles where the location changes every few days.I think I can answer this. The girls trying to sell online content are driving this phenomenon.
This is what I'm really confused about. What drives the proliferation of fake profiles?
I think I can answer this. The girls trying to sell online content are driving this phenomenon.I work in cybersecurity, many of the fake profiles online are phishing attempts, especially if you have personal photos and answer questions casually about yourself personally. Make sure you don't give any information that may be used to validate who you are as a person.
Also, there are plenty of crypto scammers out there still who use dating sites as an avenue.
Member #6100
09-25-22, 15:21
I work in cybersecurity, many of the fake profiles online are phishing attempts, especially if you have personal photos and answer questions casually about yourself personally. Make sure you don't give any information that may be used to validate who you are as a person.
Also, there are plenty of crypto scammers out there still who use dating sites as an avenue.Yes I am sure there is some of that. My gut says the biggest driver of the fake profiles is people that are looking for games and attention.
WiseTraveler
09-28-22, 17:19
Yes I am sure there is some of that. My gut says the biggest driver of the fake profiles is people that are looking for games and attention.Something has changed recently (last month or two) on secretbennies. I deleted my old profile for a few months and started a new one. No credits. I'vebeen getting 3-7 messages a day even after not logging in for two weeks. Usually it dies down as they focus on online / recently online, right? There's clearly been an algorithm or other change and it's fishy as hell.
Some are from known time wasters or semi-pros who use the spam / drift net approach but the majority are new / recent accounts which makes me think scammer / phisher or bots.
I find the SB site far better than seeking for very specific reasons: <$250/ PPM, short-term (and sometimes same day), and when traveling. On seeking, I'll get a very low response rate when setting up a pipeline but on SB, I'll still get a good 50% reply rate and very few ask for deposits, $ for meets, or even an allowance. It is known that's it's a PPM site.
I'll repeat: Only use credits to send initial messages, period. Don't message anyone who's also on seeking. Don't pay to read messages, see hidden pics, boost messages, get message read confirms, or anything else. 95% of messages you receive are from time wasters, scammers, online / platonic, bots, or skanky pros. Everyone complains about how expensive it is but blows 2/3 of their credits on low value stuff.
Babyluv92= 300.
Prettyinpink= Brooklyn Park. 400.
CheerfulGorgeous=Does not have money to pay her phone bill. But wants to SnapChat: Lmao!
Shalyn= Needs to get her brakes fixed.
MN tall brunette= 250-300. Then a weekly allowance.
Sucessful=700.
Alliexxx=350.
Sweetbabyabbs= Wants to chat on telegram or WhatsApp.
PossiblyYours="My time is very valuable to me".
Here are a few, that are mostly nonresponsive:
Flywithmyownwings.
Daddysbaby.
Sugarbqbylily.
And the Very cunning Flakes:
Sweetbabyj= Jlily. 702 area code. Lives in East Bethel. Had a very great phone conversation with her. Setup a date, sent her the address to meet at. And she Flaked on me. I always say, only scams, rippoffs and games come out of Las Vegas. Turned out to be true in this case.
Luciousduchess=619 area code. Claims to live in Eden Praire. Texting with her was entertaining, sexy and raunchy. She is very responsive on text. The day of our inperson meeting, I asked for full body pictures, and the excuses started. She said I was too demanding, and made her anxious so she will not meet me.
As always, Seniors DM me if you want any phone numbers.
Member #6100
09-29-22, 13:44
Something has changed recently (last month or two) on secretbennies. I deleted my old profile for a few months and started a new one. No credits. I'vebeen getting 3-7 messages a day even after not logging in for two weeks. Usually it dies down as they focus on online / recently online, right? There's clearly been an algorithm or other change and it's fishy as hell.
Some are from known time wasters or semi-pros who use the spam / drift net approach but the majority are new / recent accounts which makes me think scammer / phisher or bots.
I find the SB site far better than seeking for very specific reasons: <$250/ PPM, short-term (and sometimes same day), and when traveling. On seeking, I'll get a very low response rate when setting up a pipeline but on SB, I'll still get a good 50% reply rate and very few ask for deposits, $ for meets, or even an allowance. It is known that's it's a PPM site.
I'll repeat: Only use credits to send initial messages, period. Don't message anyone who's also on seeking. Don't pay to read messages, see hidden pics, boost messages, get message read confirms, or anything else. 95% of messages you receive are from time wasters, scammers, online / platonic, bots, or skanky pros. Everyone complains about how expensive it is but blows 2/3 of their credits on low value stuff.Do you post a public picture on SB? Is it your real pic? Maybe you are super handsome and that is why you are getting so many unsolicited messages? .
Prettyinpink= Brooklyn Park. 400.I found 2 matching that name. Which one is this?
https://members.seeking.com/member/59a3175a-6b89-4af5-8817-c46d16679a48
https://members.seeking.com/member/fbe1ea79-511a-44f1-97c3-5a557a00cc26
I found 2 matching that name. Which one is this?
https://members.seeking.com/member/59a3175a-6b89-4af5-8817-c46d16679a48
https://members.seeking.com/member/fbe1ea79-511a-44f1-97c3-5a557a00cc26F.
Actually, now that I look deeper into it, I think you are referring to the 1st link. She lists Minneapolis, but I thought I recognized her. So I went back and looked at some old stuff I saved. She used to go by "Puurfectone2." I met her once last year. Initial contact was quick. She went right to text quickly, and threw out a PPM number quickly. Then wanted to meet right away at her place. At the time, she was living in a hotel in Brooklyn Park (had been living at the hotel for a couple months she said, as she had recently moved from Florida). She had at least 6+ cats with her at her hotel room. At any rate, I gave her a try. After arriving, she wasn't wasting any time. Right at it. Everything covered, no kissing. It was rushed, and overall not much fun. 1 pop and your time is up. After that, I just didn't contact her again. Just wasn't my thing. Also, at that time, she a 300.
WiseTraveler
09-29-22, 21:27
Do you post a public picture on SB? Is it your real pic? Maybe you are super handsome and that is why you are getting so many unsolicited messages? .Oh gawd, never. I don't even think I have private pics. I share them via text only.
My profile is funny but blunt. No online, no platonic, can only meet during the day (never evenings), and will never send $ in advance. 10 more messages in the last 24 hours.
It could be that I haven't bought credits yet so the site algorithm is promoting the fuck out of my profile to drive traffic and get me to buy more credits. I would guess that as soon as I buy and use some, the messages will die down.
I'm trying to set something up with Wittyflirt. She seems pretty forward. Anyone seen her? https://members.seeking.com/member/f47b6b74-977e-44f0-941d-06c73b00be0e.
I'm trying to set something up with Wittyflirt. She seems pretty forward. Anyone seen her? https://members.seeking.com/member/f47b6b74-977e-44f0-941d-06c73b00be0e.Jeez her ad is like an old Craigslist ad. Makes me wonder why the site mods haven't taken it down. Wonder if there's a reason?
I'm trying to set something up with Wittyflirt. She seems pretty forward. Anyone seen her? https://members.seeking.com/member/f47b6b74-977e-44f0-941d-06c73b00be0e.I had set up a meeting with her about a month ago. We agreed on the ppm and meet at her place. She said she was submissive and very open in the bedroom. The day of I sent a message to confirm and never heard back. I followed up a couple days later and nothing. I moved on. Too bad, her pics remind me of Meadow Soprano.
AaronForks
10-03-22, 07:30
Not sure if any members are up near the F / M area (or travel that way) but I go together up with this one last night. 31. Attractive.
Nice body. Very open. PM for more details.
https://members.seeking.com/member/467bc484-c8e4-44e2-8e5d-37bafdb8026d
AaronForks
10-03-22, 15:49
Hooked up with this one today. She's taller, open, and eager. Lives south of the Merto but will make the trip to MsP. Again, PM for details.
https://members.seeking.com/member/2d571916-c075-4c18-94bf-6da090560a6a
Has anyone seen her recently? There was a report back in 2020 that sounded ideal, curious if there were any recent reports.
https://members.seeking.com/member/52ddaa01-2103-46aa-a4bf-9d4298f1885a
MrBreeder2
10-04-22, 00:45
Very interesting girl. She blew off a prior engagement to hang out with me. Bbfscip about 5-6 times at my hotel. Really fun girl, down to earth. I will see her again. YMMV but she's open minded.
https://members.seeking.com/member/15334c26-ddc3-4f39-b732-b448656e9701
MaWilliams
10-09-22, 16:36
Received a text last night with a picture attached saying pay 500 or the chats you have on Seeking will be sent to your family and business associates. Number is one from a someone I communicated with awhile back and the account is gone. I'm not concerned, numbers I use are burners with burner email addresses. I Just wanted to give people a heads up of a new scam and be careful.
WiseTraveler
10-15-22, 15:53
Received a text last night with a picture attached saying pay 500 or the chats you have on Seeking will be sent to your family and business associates. Number is one from a someone I communicated with awhile back and the account is gone. I'm not concerned, numbers I use are burners with burner email addresses. I Just wanted to give people a heads up of a new scam and be careful.Definitely report on the Seeking site. If even two guys report, they'll get banned.
Also seeing more putting greater effort into connecting, move quickly to texts, then asking for just $50 gas / whatever money. No way in hell. They all use the same phrases but they are using more stolen / real pics rather than the usual 'stolen off a travel / magazine site' polished ones.
Never pay deposits without meeting first. It screws it up for everyone else.
SixtyNineX10
10-18-22, 14:34
https://members.seeking.com/member/49214e39-fee9-4842-bce5-6483f48d6152
Has anyone met her, seems a little TGTBT. PM me if you prefer. Thanks.
SixtyNineX10
10-19-22, 14:19
https://members.seeking.com/member/4f371f6f-57e9-4d7b-bcac-0ab98909ed74
Was also curious about this one. Sent me a face pic from waist up that I know is fake. But I have had some great luck with ladies with fake pics. Obviously that can go both ways. LOL. Feel free to pm if you prefer.
I found 2 matching that name. Which one is this?
https://members.seeking.com/member/59a3175a-6b89-4af5-8817-c46d16679a48
https://members.seeking.com/member/fbe1ea79-511a-44f1-97c3-5a557a00cc26Because I have already blocked her profile.
Seeking SN:2 brokegirls.
Age listed is 27.
I was given a 651 phone number ending in 8269. Turns out it is not their phone number.
Some person got upset with me when I texted that number. And wants to investigate how I got that phone number.
I have already blocked the 2 brokegirls profile. Can some kind soul contact them, be smooth, and get their phone#?
DM me with any info.
https://members.seeking.com/member/49214e39-fee9-4842-bce5-6483f48d6152
Has anyone met her, seems a little TGTBT. PM me if you prefer. Thanks.I have contacted her a couple times. No response either time.
https://members.seeking.com/member/4f371f6f-57e9-4d7b-bcac-0ab98909ed74
Was also curious about this one. Sent me a face pic from waist up that I know is fake. But I have had some great luck with ladies with fake pics. Obviously that can go both ways. LOL. Feel free to pm if you prefer.I contacted her, and she wrote back claiming that we had met before, and she would send me a photo that I could recognize her from. I think that I would have remembered her, but she doesn't seem familiar at all. She never followed up with the photo.
Anyone hooked up with her? Seems DTF almost semi-pro. Found a no-show report on ECCIE so there's that.
https://members.seeking.com/member/701f9e7d-4503-4ed8-914d-efa475d4747f
I went back in the history here and couldn't find any review on this one. Please DM me or reply here if anybody has met her in person. I'm curious what your experience was.
https://members.seeking.com/member/c74a0247-8138-465c-af2d-92e7a2814c88
PenilePerson15
10-22-22, 18:24
Anyone hooked up with her? Seems DTF almost semi-pro. Found a no-show report on ECCIE so there's that.
https://members.seeking.com/member/701f9e7d-4503-4ed8-914d-efa475d4747fNot a premium member, but I would be interested in taking a run at her, if anyone has more info, feel free to PM, happy to exchange digits as well.
I contacted her, and she wrote back claiming that we had met before, and she would send me a photo that I could recognize her from. I think that I would have remembered her, but she doesn't seem familiar at all. She never followed up with the photo.Thought I had something set up with her. Negotiations seemed specific enough to think she is real. When I thought it was set she tossed out a rule about first meet can't be at a hotel. Something seemed off on the way this came about and how it was pushed.
Either my expectations are way off, or there is are gangs / businesses in the MSP running girls on seeking. Here is a list of girls wanting 500 or more.
K= 500.
Cleaobabii= 500.
Cynth1 a = 500.
CheerfulMadame= 650.
Disco Dom= Major headcase. 600.
And the scammers:
Prettyreadhead96= Wants 30. Venmo at Sophiec45.
Kaitliniscool= Wants the money to buy a car: No not a car. Wants me to send the money to buy a car.
FeminineSiren=Online only.
Sunny=Snapchat only.
Kittykatkaila=kik only.
SophieJ= No phone number.
Sa_ready=307 area code. Flake.
I have phone numbers of lots more headcases. Will post when able.
Kittykatkaila=kik only.
I have phone numbers of lots more headcases. Will post when able.Was Kittykatkaila kik only as in not meet up or that is her preferred way to text? I love her look but don't need drama.
Never a good sign when a **** talks ultra sexual before I bring up the topic. And even worse when she ghosts after requesting a phone call to verify she's real. But if she's real, she's hot.
90% sure she does not have good intentions. If anyone can confirm she is legit, please reply here or DM me.
https://members.seeking.com/member/ea6a3a5f-7daf-4419-afd6-d4de8cdf086d
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