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QuantumFlux359
05-14-20, 17:09
Any intel on this one? We're in the early going but she seems eager to meet. (Maybe a little too eager.).
https://www.seeking.com/member/c4ae5af1-a5b4-4a23-bed8-29686e32a996I have her blocked (or she has me blocked) and I scrolled back a couple years in my messages. Man I've messaged a lot of women. , and gave up there, LOL, so take that for what it's worth, idk if I blocked her or she blocked me or whatever happened, but I had some sort of interaction that didn't go well. But yea, in general, when they look like that and ready to meet right off the bat, imo, 80% of the time they flake / arent legit, 20% they are pros and it's everything covered, in and out in 45 min.
Had similar response with this one, if anyone knows any specifics. Seems way too ready to meet.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7a08a23b-bd81-457d-b044-7be65f39f63c
Any intel on this one? We're in the early going but she seems eager to meet. (Maybe a little too eager.).
https://www.seeking.com/member/c4ae5af1-a5b4-4a23-bed8-29686e32a996Here is her site.
https://onlyfans.com/kittykatpole
Here is her site.
https://onlyfans.com/kittykatpoleThat's KendraQueenxx (ex: Bella Ava), right? The other girl is similar in her face and build but is different.
Thanks for the link in any case; I'm a Kendra / Bella fan.
That's KendraQueenxx (ex: Bella Ava), right? The other girl is similar in her face and build but is different.
Thanks for the link in any case; I'm a Kendra / Bella fan.Oops, my mistake you are correct. Although they are friends and were available for doubles in the past, but not sure if that is still the case.
Oops, my mistake you are correct. Although they are friends and were available for doubles in the past, but not sure if that is still the case.Any details on rate? PM please.
For those in the market, Katiefulloflife reached out to me the other day asked if I'd like to meet. I've not met her, but she left a good impression; a few extra pounds were all that kept me from pursuing her.FYI, Katie reached out once again, this time saying she's deleting her profile this week. Said she's looking for long-term only but after hearing a firm no on bareback (as others have reported), I'm giving her a final pass.
Oops, my mistake you are correct. Although they are friends and were available for doubles in the past, but not sure if that is still the case.That makes sense. Lindsey messaged me last week, then Kendra (for the first time in a while) when she rolled into town. Both of their profiles then said they were back in Fargo. Now at least Kendra has returned here.
I know Kendra runs with a crew, but they're high volume from what I've heard, so I'd hesitate with BB even if it's on the menu. I think I'll at least inquire though.
That makes sense. Lindsey messaged me last week, then Kendra (for the first time in a while) when she rolled into town. Both of their profiles then said they were back in Fargo. Now at least Kendra has returned here.
I know Kendra runs with a crew, but they're high volume from what I've heard, so I'd hesitate with BB even if it's on the menu. I think I'll at least inquire though.I think you would be crazy to do BB with her.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1c3b5508-b279-4f9c-b372-8b33c2306d98?&locale=en_US
I was attracted by her body hair and, earlier this week, set up a lunch meeting for noon today. I sent a message this morning with my number asking whether we were still on; she responded 20 minutes before noon stating that she was cancelling because she'd found another arrangement she's happy with.
Guess that explains why she's online right now!
I think you would be crazy to do BB with her.I don't disagree. Tempting as it may be, I've now thought the better of it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/44d88eae-f955-4380-9286-7e2863c9b5fd
Any scoop on this one? Appearance is 9+, messages are decent, and we're heading toward a meeting.
https://www.seeking.com/member/44d88eae-f955-4380-9286-7e2863c9b5fd
Any scoop on this one? Appearance is 9+, messages are decent, and we're heading toward a meeting.
We set up a downtown rendezvous early this week for noon Friday (tomorrow). On Monday night, she asked if Thursday (today) would work as she'd been scheduled to work Friday afternoon; I agreed to the change and suggested we catch lunch beforehand. That message remains unread; she shows online early this afternoon. Profile blocked; pics attached.
90% of woman on SA are Professional Escorts / Hookers. Yes, they are real.
I have met and played with about 6 woman off SA in about a year.
Then an interesting thing happened. I was kicked off SA, because I was breaking their rules.
Customer service said that they verified that I was, "promoting criminal behavior", and they were going to report me to LE.
WOW! Never realized this could happen in a Free country.
Good Riddance SA.
My advice: Watch your back. And never pay for more than a month to month membership.
I still have a few SBs to choose from. And since SA I Have been sampling other SB apps and websites.
SA definitely has the most traffic, which also comes with more fakes and games.
It is nice to use the SB vetting process learnt from weeding thru garbage on SA, on quieter SB sites.
HardWoodsman
06-28-20, 00:10
Any information on either of these 2 blonds. Information and PMs welcome.
Kittybb15.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2ad4af18-1a34-4b82-b2e7-8378002fd6c2
Elitepinkbarbie.
https://www.seeking.com/member/51c70681-6e59-eeb4-310a-2049f83868ac
90% of woman on SA are Professional Escorts / Hookers. Yes, they are real.
.Obviously, saying 90% of the woman are professions is an exaggeration and they are usually fairly easy to identify. I am sure that varies some by location as well.
Interestingly, when I first joined Seeking a few years ago, there were just under 7,000 profiles within 50 miles of Minneapolis, now there are over 10,000. Yes many of them are scammers, professionals, inactive or interested in platonic only, but still plenty of legitimate opportunities just takes some work, patience and maybe a little luck.
It has been a few months since I last renewed my membership. Just sticking with a 2 that I have been seeing for a while, one is 20 and the other turns 23 next month (I am 58) Only issue may be that it looks like they both might have legitimate boyfriends now, so not sure if that will change things with either of them. The 23 yr old told me about her "boyfriend" who is older, rich and lives out of town. He is not here often and I fuck her more than he does, so likely won't see much of a change there.
The other hasn't said anything, but have seen pictures of him on Instagram. It looks like he is a skateboarder who doesn't have much of a job or money (other than his parents). I think this arrangement might change if they end up moving in together or something. She has told me before she only gives a guy 90 days and if she doesn't feel it is going anywhere, will move on. So will see how long he makes it, I have been seeing for her for 19 months.
Right at the start of the lockdown I meet another in I really liked, but didn't have enough time for her. She seemed a little too business like, but think things might have relaxed some if I had continued to see her.
I am hoping I don't have to renew my membership for awhile, but sometimes I miss meeting up with new woman.
NerdyGuy12
07-07-20, 11:09
I've seen fentyqueen before for BBBJ / BBFS (had to pull out, because she's not on birth control). It was a fun time. She's attractive in person and has a great attitude, but I seem to have lost her number. Anyone else had experience / have updated contact info?
NerdyGuy12
07-07-20, 11:10
Forgot the link: https://www.seeking.com/member/5ec97b09-bf30-4d34-b216-b2651b592e7b.
I've seen fentyqueen before for BBBJ / BBFS (had to pull out, because she's not on birth control). It was a fun time. She's attractive in person and has a great attitude, but I seem to have lost her number. Anyone else had experience / have updated contact info?
PhillipPlein
07-07-20, 14:28
Forgot the link: https://www.seeking.com/member/5ec97b09-bf30-4d34-b216-b2651b592e7b.What are her rates / price?
NerdyGuy12
07-07-20, 18:14
You know, I remember it being very negotiable. I think I ended up doing $$ but I'm pretty sure you could do better.
What are her rates / price?
BumbaCloth
07-31-20, 11:59
I'll be traveling to Minneapolis for work. Want to know about the SB scene out there? I saw someone post about there being more "Pros" than "SBs" and a few busts.
After some bad Customer Service experiences. I am back on SA.
A monopoly like SA does not have to treat you right.
Follow the rules, and you will find a UTR gem on SA.
Lots of traffic will keep you amused on SA.
Although traffic is low, I have also had luck on SDM App.
DO NOT Recommend: Tinder, Bumble, Match, Sugardaddie.com, Secretbenefits.
I'll be traveling to Minneapolis for work. Want to know about the SB scene out there? I saw someone post about there being more "Pros" than "SBs" and a few busts.
How did you get from "Customer service said that they verified that I was, "promoting criminal behavior", and they were going to report me to LE. ".
To this? Glad you were able to turn it around, but, that seemed like a pretty big turnaround, considering they wanted to get LE involved.
After some bad Customer Service experiences. I am back on SA.
A monopoly like SA does not have to treat you right.
Follow the rules, and you will find a UTR gem on SA.
Lots of traffic will keep you amused on SA.
Although traffic is low, I have also had luck on SDM App.
DO NOT Recommend: Tinder, Bumble, Match, Sugardaddie.com, Secretbenefits.
I'll be traveling to Minneapolis for work. Want to know about the SB scene out there? I saw someone post about there being more "Pros" than "SBs" and a few busts.Is there a particular "type" that you are looking for?
BumbaCloth
08-03-20, 23:10
I'm more into Spanish woman but I'm openminded seen a lot of thick white girls.
Is there a particular "type" that you are looking for?
I'm more into Spanish woman but I'm openminded seen a lot of thick white girls.Just sent you a message.
BumbaCloth
08-08-20, 22:25
Any info on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/c78295fe-017a-43c1-8213-76bc1fcbcd89
Any info on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/c78295fe-017a-43c1-8213-76bc1fcbcd89She is into bondage and very active on FetLife, or at least she was a few years ago. She also had a girlfriend back than, not sure if they are still together.
BumbaCloth
08-20-20, 16:05
Any info on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/2dd99e00-94fb-4f17-b33c-d0625fe56a31
NerdyGuy12
09-09-20, 08:32
It looks like she now splits time between Minneapolis and Charlotte, but does anyone have experience? I feel like she's had other profiles before.
https://www.seeking.com/member/47c5efbe-2e12-4d20-ba00-d8e046b9df7c
WiseTraveler
09-09-20, 13:10
It looks like she now splits time between Minneapolis and Charlotte, but does anyone have experience? I feel like she's had other profiles before.
https://www.seeking.com/member/47c5efbe-2e12-4d20-ba00-d8e046b9df7cNo personal experience but I think you're right. She looks familiar. FWIW I'm finding potential SBs are not just agreeing to text / email / KIK outside of the SA site but often suggesting it quickly as SA has gone completely insane with their ban hammer logic. SBs also aren't avoiding PPM discussions where before they would dance around weekly / monthly allowances before caving.
Just a guess. She'll ask for $500 but settle for $300-400. As always can be impacted if she is hosting, BB vs covered, and more adventurous activities. Curious what you find out.
It looks like she now splits time between Minneapolis and Charlotte, but does anyone have experience? I feel like she's had other profiles before.
https://www.seeking.com/member/47c5efbe-2e12-4d20-ba00-d8e046b9df7cNice to see some activity here! I agree she had been around before and she looks more like 45 years old than 36.
See that SA has a 25% off deal. I haven't renewed since March and not sure I am ready to sign up again. I have had two regulars, but just recently let one go, she didn't take it real well. The other now has a boyfriend and from his social media seems like he is really serious about her. She has never mentioned him and I keep thinking she may end things with me, but she is as anxious to fuck as ever.
Also, have few others I meet over the years who have reconnected with me and are interested in getting together again. So, may see what comes from that before spending the money. Although, it is tempting to meet someone new.
NerdyGuy12
09-11-20, 16:52
Yeah, I ended up not pursuing her. You should share some intel on your girls. Agreed that we need some more activity in here.
Texting with this one now. She sent me some pics. Very cute with a really nice body (just a bit of pudge). We have a date for next week, and she's down for basically anything, including BBFS and anal. Anyone seen her? Says one of her fantasies is to do a gangbang. Could be interesting to organize ha.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3e89d0a5-7e11-4abe-a4b2-37c42d8be1e6
Nice to see some activity here! I agree she had been around before and she looks more like 45 years old than 36.
See that SA has a 25% off deal. I haven't renewed since March and not sure I am ready to sign up again. I have had two regulars, but just recently let one go, she didn't take it real well. The other now has a boyfriend and from his social media seems like he is really serious about her. She has never mentioned him and I keep thinking she may end things with me, but she is as anxious to fuck as ever.
Also, have few others I meet over the years who have reconnected with me and are interested in getting together again. So, may see what comes from that before spending the money. Although, it is tempting to meet someone new.
Yeah, I ended up not pursuing her. You should share some intel on your girls. Agreed that we need some more activity in here.
Texting with this one now. She sent me some pics. Very cute with a really nice body (just a bit of pudge). We have a date for next week, and she's down for basically anything, including BBFS and anal. Anyone seen her? Says one of her fantasies is to do a gangbang. Could be interesting to organize ha.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3e89d0a5-7e11-4abe-a4b2-37c42d8be1e6Seems like she is a better option. DM me if she wants to fulfill that fantasy haha.
She quoted me $$ which is just too much for my budget. Could not get her to moveSounds like fun.
Any info on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/c78295fe-017a-43c1-8213-76bc1fcbcd89
WiseTraveler
09-12-20, 15:41
She quoted me $$ which is just too much for my budget. Could not get her to moveSounds like fun.I chatted with her 2 years ago and she wanted 4hun+ per meet. She was too pro-like / jaded so I didn't pursue. She really played up her head game back then.
WiseTraveler
09-12-20, 16:14
https://www.seeking.com/member/b3c3a006-1fbe-4226-a26f-64a4aedbffc1 Wanted 4 but didn't really hash out details. She texted often so seemed motivated. Forget if she could host.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0aaea4b7-c308-4605-a568-177010142859 Wants 500, can host, but just not my type.
Have a few others I'm finalizing PPMs with to have options. Will share ones as I learn more as long as others share here or via DM.
Edit: Both were aggressive/interested so you could probably negotiate down. Never got to details of covered/BB, etc. Didn't seem like meth heads or total flakes but not public SB material.
NerdyGuy12
09-12-20, 16:40
I'll tack on a couple more:
Babee - 250 ppm, but does want to grab a drink first to assess chemistry. Pretty open menu. https://www.seeking.com/member/ab6b88c7-0518-4980-88cf-6b8b47350019.
Sarina Boudoir. 500 ppm. Way over "market value" considering comparable or better alternatives for cheaper. https://www.seeking.com/member/d4216774-08bc-436b-b02c-8132a16db0f1.
Armybrat. Locked in my date with her. She's down to get down and sent me the attached pic. Will report back.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3e89d0a5-7e11-4abe-a4b2-37c42d8be1e6
https://www.seeking.com/member/b3c3a006-1fbe-4226-a26f-64a4aedbffc1 Wanted 4 but didn't really hash out details. She texted often so seemed motivated. Forget if she could host.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0aaea4b7-c308-4605-a568-177010142859 Wants 500, can host, but just not my type.
Have a few others I'm finalizing PPMs with to have options. Will share ones as I learn more as long as others share here or via DM.
Edit: Both were aggressive/interested so you could probably negotiate down. Never got to details of covered/BB, etc. Didn't seem like meth heads or total flakes but not public SB material.
WiseTraveler
09-12-20, 18:47
https://www.seeking.com/member/b3c3a006-1fbe-4226-a26f-64a4aedbffc1 Wanted 4 but didn't really hash out details. She texted often so seemed motivated. Forget if she could host.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0aaea4b7-c308-4605-a568-177010142859 Wants 500, can host, but just not my type.
Have a few others I'm finalizing PPMs with to have options. Will share ones as I learn more as long as others share here or via DM.
Edit: Both were aggressive/interested so you could probably negotiate down. Never got to details of covered/BB, etc. Didn't seem like meth heads or total flakes but not public SB material.Adding one more: https://www.seeking.com/member/0664ff16-210e-4b6e-aeef-b84af6eaf142.
Very *able, $300, get the sense anything goes but is now in Appleton, WI. She might be worth connecting with if she ever comes into town. Not a mental giant but she's all natural and not shy.
HardWoodsman
09-13-20, 15:19
https://www.seeking.com/member/0aaea4b7-c308-4605-a568-177010142859 Wants 500, can host, but just not my type.
.That's Misha, She's a pro and been around a little while. You can find her on Tryst and Eros.
https://tryst.link/escort/mischa-york
https://www.eros.com/minnesota/files/738230.htm?cat=26
Yeah, I ended up not pursuing her. You should share some intel on your girls. Agreed that we need some more activity in here.
Texting with this one now. She sent me some pics. Very cute with a really nice body (just a bit of pudge). We have a date for next week, and she's down for basically anything, including BBFS and anal. Anyone seen her? Says one of her fantasies is to do a gangbang. Could be interesting to organize ha.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3e89d0a5-7e11-4abe-a4b2-37c42d8be1e6Appreciate latest updates on Amy.
WiseTraveler
09-14-20, 09:52
That's Misha, She's a pro and been around a little while. You can find her on Tryst and Eros.
https://tryst.link/escort/mischa-york
https://www.eros.com/minnesota/files/738230.htm?cat=26Thanks for the info. I figured as much. Glad I passed. She wasn't crazy / weird or anything but yeah, very business-like and didn't care about 'making a connection' etc. I'll have a few more to add later this month once I let my premium status lapse.
BumbaCloth
09-14-20, 19:07
Elisia7000.
Wants you to take her out for dinner and compensate her for time.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4627a494-6ddc-41a6-be0b-f20a89c88e7b
SeekingMyOwn.
Wants online / cam arrangement.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d94bdc2e-3494-42d4-8336-89b1e1f17457
Sarina Boudoir. 500 ppm. Way over "market value" considering comparable or better alternatives for cheaper. https://www.seeking.com/member/d4216774-08bc-436b-b02c-8132a16db0f1.I'd lined up a spontaneous lunch date with Sarina earlier today, but she canceled a couple hours later stating she was just offered a job interview in the afternoon.
I agreed to 500 based on her appearance; I thought she was in line with other model-level SBs for whom I've dropped 500. I'd be very interested in others in the market who can run with her on looks and may be easier on the wallet.
WiseTraveler
09-15-20, 13:16
Favorited / messaged me, shared pics quickly, texted, immediately suggested PPM but wants me to make offer. Any intel?
TJdoesit420.
https://www.seeking.com/member/38befbfe-5ee8-4c7d-9202-681c6a73649d
Not really my type but might work as a stress relief option on short notice as she can host during the day. Thanks.
I'd lined up a spontaneous lunch date with Sarina earlier today, but she canceled a couple hours later stating she was just offered a job interview in the afternoon.
I agreed to 500 based on her appearance; I thought she was in line with other model-level SBs for whom I've dropped 500. I'd be very interested in others in the market who can run with her on looks and may be easier on the wallet.I stand corrected: I just got some bonus pics from her, and she's not quite as hot as her profile photos indicate. She's no longer in 500 territory for me.
NerdyGuy12
09-15-20, 13:47
Yeah, I was basing that off selfies I received from her too. I'd say both the other girls I mentioned in the post below are more attractive and for almost half the price.
I stand corrected: I just got some bonus pics from her, and she's not quite as hot as her profile photos indicate. She's no longer in 500 territory for me.
Spaniard21
09-15-20, 16:03
Scam Artist 101. Beware. Real name is Lauren. Tried to get one past me, plays innocent, she is not.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4be9dbca-680e-4cb9-ac7a-a8632013352e
Spaniard21
09-15-20, 16:06
This one needs to retire. LOL.
Great rack, has definitely been around. Was fun 3 years ago.
https://www.seeking.com/member/cc2ef3bc-e0c7-4bf1-af67-a2f92bd78b3f
Spaniard21
09-15-20, 16:08
She's a pro, wanted 500, got her down to 300.
https://www.seeking.com/member/edc02096-e203-42da-8cf5-fa046647980b
Spaniard21
09-15-20, 16:12
I've seen this profile several times, I figured to good to be true, Plus she's on several sites. Anyone have info:
https://www.seeking.com/member/648f6519-83e6-4a51-a8c2-8e49d667db49
Scam Artist 101. Beware. Real name is Lauren. Tried to get one past me, plays innocent, she is not.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4be9dbca-680e-4cb9-ac7a-a8632013352eYes, she's had other profiles in the past. Here's my review from last October:
Had her teed up for BBFS at 400, but she'd only meet for an hour. When I explained that an hour is really too little for that kind of money, she pulled the tired old "I'm so busy with work and school" line and stated that she's "never going to be able to spend hours and hours with (me)". Decided to pull the plug at that point. A bit of a shame too, because she's the perfect blend of cute and hot IMO, and seemed eager to meet due to a supposed past-due bill. (Offer less out of the gate if you choose to pursue.).
Spaniard21
09-15-20, 16:54
Yes, she's had other profiles in the past. Here's my review from last October:
Had her teed up for BBFS at 400, but she'd only meet for an hour. When I explained that an hour is really too little for that kind of money, she pulled the tired old "I'm so busy with work and school" line and stated that she's "never going to be able to spend hours and hours with (me)". Decided to pull the plug at that point. A bit of a shame too, because she's the perfect blend of cute and hot IMO, and seemed eager to meet due to a supposed past-due bill. (Offer less out of the gate if you choose to pursue.).Ha, similar story here. I let her go, couple months later she came back and said she broke her arm and needed help, she was desperate and would do anything. She wanted money first via Venmo.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2db85235-ab05-40eb-9fc6-8e88e46ada14
I traded a number of messages with her on the site today. Definitely would have moved forward, but being married is a showstopper for her. She was appropriate and respectful about it when I told her.
The story in her bio checks out via third-party sources. She seems completely legit, and might make a great catch for somebody else.
https://www.seeking.com/member/442d7692-fdf0-417f-bf34-34612c9067e7
She's not up for anything physical, but it took a few messages to uncover that. Save your breath.
Spaniard21
09-16-20, 01:05
https://www.seeking.com/member/442d7692-fdf0-417f-bf34-34612c9067e7
She's not up for anything physical, but it took a few messages to uncover that. Save your breath.So many SB seeking the "platonic" relationship, gets old.
https://www.seeking.com/member/5708622d-617f-42b6-ba4d-2b900314b053
She's asking for 300 PPM, which seems like a decent value. Any experience with her?
WiseTraveler
09-16-20, 17:24
https://www.seeking.com/member/5708622d-617f-42b6-ba4d-2b900314b053
She's asking for 300 PPM, which seems like a decent value. Any experience with her?No but often when someone mentions previous bad experiences like she did in her profile, it can be a setup to ask for $ in advance. Could be a rinser. [edit - probably genuine given post above but still can be a red flag]
https://www.seeking.com/member/5708622d-617f-42b6-ba4d-2b900314b053
She's asking for 300 PPM, which seems like a decent value. Any experience with her?I meet her for drinks a while back and she was very nice. Got little friendly in the parking lot, but nothing too much. She is originally from Australia and works as personal trainer. Think she would be lot of fun and had intended on seeing her, but got distracted by few others. Definitely, genuine person and not a scammer.
HardWoodsman
09-16-20, 19:41
https://www.seeking.com/member/5708622d-617f-42b6-ba4d-2b900314b053
She's asking for 300 PPM, which seems like a decent value. Any experience with her?I met with her about a year ago. She's open minded and submissive. She's a little thicker than her pictures, or at least she was, but like Ryan said she is a personal trainer so she is solid. I would have seen her again but I got serious with another SB at the time.
Great to see the group activity picking up lately. Fall has historically been good for me on the site, and this season is shaping up well too, knock on wood.
I have a few other promising prospects I'd to run by the group. I'm currently working to set up dates with the following:
https://www.seeking.com/member/d6eb29f5-8eb0-43a6-a467-46ea8ee95e5d
https://www.seeking.com/member/7404a61c-ef44-4484-94a6-35bd49a30317
https://www.seeking.com/member/487736d6-fcf5-4803-a681-db9b16acd756
I'm also messaging this one, but she seems uncertain about what she's willing to do. Probably the most attractive of this bunch to me, which is saying something.
https://www.seeking.com/member/484abb65-bf56-440c-b8a5-30a4a54fcdb9
HardWoodsman
09-16-20, 21:47
Great to see the group activity picking up lately. Fall has historically been good for me on the site, and this season is shaping up well too, knock on wood.
I have a few other promising prospects I'd to run by the group. I'm currently working to set up dates with the following:
https://www.seeking.com/member/d6eb29f5-8eb0-43a6-a467-46ea8ee95e5d
https://www.seeking.com/member/7404a61c-ef44-4484-94a6-35bd49a30317
https://www.seeking.com/member/487736d6-fcf5-4803-a681-db9b16acd756
I'm also messaging this one, but she seems uncertain about what she's willing to do. Probably the most attractive of this bunch to me, which is saying something.
https://www.seeking.com/member/484abb65-bf56-440c-b8a5-30a4a54fcdb9That's a nice selection. I wish I could help you out but they all are new to me. I'm always cautious the ones that hide their join date. Let us know how it goes. If you need a third with an of them let me know. LOL.
Cheers.
Wood.
New experience today, I took my SB golfing before heading off to the hotel. Since I am married, I am very discrete so don't do outings like this very often. We paired up with a couple older ladies, which worked out well. I was worried we would end up playing with couple guys who would be staring at her all day. The ladies never asked what our connection was, but believe they thought she was my daughter since she is 35 yrs younger than me LOL. It was fun to spend they day with her instead of just a few hours in the hotel room.
She still has not mentioned to me that she has a now boyfriend, but I finally figured out that when she says she is hanging out with her cousin it is code for boyfriend. Wonder if he knows about me? Her lease was up the end of August and I was concerned she might move in with him, but she moved into an apartment with her twin sister.
New experience today, I took my SB golfing before heading off to the hotel. Since I am married, I am very discrete so don't do outings like this very often. We paired up with a couple older ladies, which worked out well. I was worried we would end up playing with couple guys who would be staring at her all day. The ladies never asked what our connection was, but believe they thought she was my daughter since she is 35 yrs younger than me LOL. It was fun to spend they day with her instead of just a few hours in the hotel room.
She still has not mentioned to me that she has a now boyfriend, but I finally figured out that when she says she is hanging out with her cousin it is code for boyfriend. Wonder if he knows about me? Her lease was up the end of August and I was concerned she might move in with him, but she moved into an apartment with her twin sister.Here is a photo she sent me from earlier this summer, which is why I thought guys might be staring if they were paired with us for golf LOL. It was cooler yesterday, so she was in jeans but still looked amazing. If you saw picture of me you never think we were together haha.
https://www.seeking.com/messages/inbox/7d9a5bc3-21c1-40e4-b2af-1b6f0c8278ca
Messaging was going well until she said, "An initial $200 for a coffee date to see if we're a good match is where I usually start. " Of course, I declined; we respectfully parted ways.
HardWoodsman
09-17-20, 09:06
Messaging was going well until she said, "An initial $200 for a coffee date to see if we're a good match is where I usually start. " Of course, I declined; we respectfully parted ways.The Link leads to your messages not her profile.
Thanks for the heads-up. The correct link is below.
https://www.seeking.com/member/cc332492-81ed-4d06-a987-7158efd35e43
Messaging was going well until she said, "An initial $200 for a coffee date to see if we're a good match is where I usually start. " Of course, I declined; we respectfully parted ways.
WiseTraveler
09-17-20, 13:43
Ha, similar story here. I let her go, couple months later she came back and said she broke her arm and needed help, she was desperate and would do anything. She wanted money first via Venmo.Two thoughts (not exactly new / innovative but.) but before M&Gs with SBs I'm not sure about (which is most), I often send these messages, adjusting as needed:
Hiya! Excited about potentially meeting but wanted to avoid confusion and as your profile says, 'not waste your / my time' so here goes. Not interested in platonic / online. If you need time to feel comfortable, that's fine (chemistry is important, right?) but I'll only cover meal / transport costs.
100% real talk: Please don't put me on the spot for financial emergencies, especially the first few months. I do not give advances or cover emergencies.
Some do cancel or get pissed but I take it as having dodged a bullet.
This one is back with a new profile. Seems she's gained a fair amount of weight since last fall.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f14f3d43-4875-4d4b-9491-e16dd9809307
https://www.seeking.com/member/e1c0a923-68c8-4a3d-a25f-34242a998be1
Made plans last week; she agreed to meet tonight at 6:00 for dinner with a return to my place paying 250. At 4:45, she asked if I'd be willing to reschedule because she thought she ate some bad food and was feeling sick. Answer: Absolutely not.
https://www.seeking.com/member/dc957749-43ef-4ea9-8afd-001944157503
"I don't want to meet up with anyone, I just want someone online that I can talk to and not be judged and just someone who can financially support me. ".
Spaniard21
09-18-20, 09:12
Two thoughts (not exactly new / innovative but.) but before M&Gs with SBs I'm not sure about (which is most), I often send these messages, adjusting as needed:
Hiya! Excited about potentially meeting but wanted to avoid confusion and as your profile says, 'not waste your / my time' so here goes. Not interested in platonic / online. If you need time to feel comfortable, that's fine (chemistry is important, right?) but I'll only cover meal / transport costs.
100% real talk: Please don't put me on the spot for financial emergencies, especially the first few months. I do not give advances or cover emergencies.
Some do cancel or get pissed but I take it as having dodged a bullet.Exactly, I need to change my initial responses to weed out the bad ones and dodge the bullets.
Spaniard21
09-18-20, 09:13
This one is back with a new profile. Seems she's gained a fair amount of weight since last fall.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f14f3d43-4875-4d4b-9491-e16dd9809307Being the boob guy I am, the curves are talking to me. Must resist.
Two thoughts (not exactly new / innovative but.) but before M&Gs with SBs I'm not sure about (which is most), I often send these messages, adjusting as needed:
Hiya! Excited about potentially meeting but wanted to avoid confusion and as your profile says, 'not waste your / my time' so here goes. Not interested in platonic / online. If you need time to feel comfortable, that's fine (chemistry is important, right?) but I'll only cover meal / transport costs.
100% real talk: Please don't put me on the spot for financial emergencies, especially the first few months. I do not give advances or cover emergencies.
Some do cancel or get pissed but I take it as having dodged a bullet.I also make it clear that I am not looking for platonic or online and actually say that in my profile. I normally don't say anything about compensating for meet and greet and just assume they know that there is no payment for those type of dates. If they bring it up, I just say no and explain there are too many scammers that try and take advantage of the guys in the site. I also say no to dinners, strictly drinks and maybe an appetizer. I don't want to be stuck sitting there if we don't get along.
Sometimes I would be little more straight forward and tell them I am little spoiled from my previous arrangement where if we were short on time we would just have fun in my car for $100 (which is true) If they were interested in that I could certainly give them a small allowance. Got mixed responses on that LOL.
There is a guy in Seattle that I exchanged strategies, tips and shared stories with for a few years. He was a Dr and a master of hooking up with 18 and 19 yr olds who were new to the site and some within weeks or day of turning 18. He Certainly had his type. Also had few scares with some who claimed they were 18, but that's a different story. Anyway, he would buy perfume with the cute little bag at Sephora and bring them as a gift for the first date. Said it worked wonders and only cost him about $25.
BumbaCloth
09-18-20, 19:06
Any info on her? Profile seems straight forward.
https://www.seeking.com/member/98aee03e-5194-45c7-b25d-e3d207be6f75
NerdyGuy12
09-18-20, 21:24
Yeah, Army is good to go. She literally has a closet of sex toys and is super into this. We hung for 3 hours at her apartment in dinkytown. She's down for 3 holes bare. Good time all around.
Appreciate latest updates on Amy.
I had a good date that ended well with one of the prospects I'd listed earlier. I was set on moving forward with her until doing some sleuthing today.
Using info she shared and an hour or so of my time, I determined her identity. Parts of her story checked out; others didn't. For instance, she told me that she's a currently enrolled undergrad student at UMN but in fact, she graduated last fall and has not been enrolled since. On the other hand, she stated she's selling a home that she (ostensibly) bought with a boyfriend; her story around this checked out, including where the house is located, how long it's been on the market, and co-ownership with a younger guy. She was also factual about at least one of her majors.
How do / would you handle this issue? Part of me wants to simply walk away; if she can't be honest about being in school, what else is she hiding? Part of me wants to tell her that I don't think she was entirely honest about her bio and (without revealing what I know) ask if she'd like to correct the record on anything. I already know the name she provided at the start of our date is a pseudonym, which I can easily look past and might be a good intro: "I forgot to ask, is xxxx your real name?" "Yes? Come on." That said, I don't want to come off as a stalker.
Interested to hear your thoughts.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f4b5b0ac-e901-4d48-a241-363dc9b079ad
Sent me an unsolicited offer of 850 PPM today. When challenged that this is well above market rate even for top-shelf SBs, she responded with, "Well I must be top shelf LOL. I've been doing this for 5 years. I'm young, I'm pretty, I'm a sweetheart. This is top shelf hunny. ".
What little we can see looks great IMO, but there's even better locally for less.
I really wouldn't get too worked up about it, unless there is something about what she held back is a dealbreaker for you. There are so many scammers and just flat out creepy people on the site, I wouldn't expect them to share everything about themselves on the first meeting. If you continue to see her she will most likely share more as you build trust.
I also make it clear that I am not looking for platonic or online and actually say that in my profile. I normally don't say anything about compensating for meet and greet and just assume they know that there is no payment for those type of dates. If they bring it up, I just say no and explain there are too many scammers that try and take advantage of the guys in the site. I also say no to dinners, strictly drinks and maybe an appetizer. I don't want to be stuck sitting there if we don't get along.
Sometimes I would be little more straight forward and tell them I am little spoiled from my previous arrangement where if we were short on time we would just have fun in my car for $100 (which is true) If they were interested in that I could certainly give them a small allowance. Got mixed responses on that LOL.
There is a guy in Seattle that I exchanged strategies, tips and shared stories with for a few years. He was a Dr and a master of hooking up with 18 and 19 yr olds who were new to the site and some within weeks or day of turning 18. He Certainly had his type. Also had few scares with some who claimed they were 18, but that's a different story. Anyway, he would buy perfume with the cute little bag at Sephora and bring them as a gift for the first date. Said it worked wonders and only cost him about $25.FWIW, I say no online-only arrangements in my profile. Like Ryan, I assume they understand that an initial M&G will be uncomp'd; if they want something for it, I state that I don't pay unless we move on to another location for more fun. I'll cover her lunch / dinner since I have to eat anyway and it's often a chance to eat somewhere I wouldn't ordinarily go. They're on their own for transportation to the date.
I typically suss out their interest in a physical relationship via messaging. Also, my profile hints about as strongly as SA will seemingly allow to my need for intimacy.
I don't give advances or cover emergencies either. My current long-termer tried this early on and I shot her down; she actually told me much later that she respected me more for it.
HardWoodsman
09-19-20, 16:53
https://www.seeking.com/member/f4b5b0ac-e901-4d48-a241-363dc9b079ad
Sent me an unsolicited offer of 850 PPM today. When challenged that this is well above market rate even for top-shelf SBs, she responded with, "Well I must be top shelf LOL. I've been doing this for 5 years. I'm young, I'm pretty, I'm a sweetheart. This is top shelf hunny. ".
What little we can see looks great IMO, but there's even better locally for less.This type of GPS is why I rarely mess with profiles that aren't at least a few weeks old. As much as I would like to be the first to meet new talent, it's often a waste of time as they either turn out to be fake, they are bombarded with messages or their expectations have yet to be reset. Many are dipping theirs toes in the water with some kind of Pretty Woman dreams for a white knight to sweep them off their feet and shower them with gifts and money. If they are still around in a few weeks and they are still logging on they are much more open to a reasonable arrangement.
Thanks to all who've contribute information to this threat the least few days. It's nice to have see some activity and good Information here.
WiseTraveler
09-19-20, 20:02
https://www.seeking.com/member/77796a80-90e5-4a5d-a628-1b2870e219e0
Or at least a likely one. Newer profile, immediately moved to text, wanted to meet, never asked for my pics, then claims she'll need $90 to "cover her shift at the army base" before she can meet. Trolled her for fun and might continue to do so.
Quick way to see least make sure she's the one in her profile is to insist she sends a selfie with the fingers up. That's when scammers ghost / or tell you to fuck off.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f4b5b0ac-e901-4d48-a241-363dc9b079ad
Sent me an unsolicited offer of 850 PPM today. When challenged that this is well above market rate even for top-shelf SBs, she responded with, "Well I must be top shelf LOL. I've been doing this for 5 years. I'm young, I'm pretty, I'm a sweetheart. This is top shelf hunny. ".
What little we can see looks great IMO, but there's even better locally for less.She looks like total BS to me, new profile, only one picture and many of the scammers use kind of obscure towns as their locations. The top shelf girls know they have to sell themselves to get the big money and create good profiles with pictures that will grab your attention and they don't need to make unsolicited offers because they get more messages than they can read.
https://www.seeking.com/member/77796a80-90e5-4a5d-a628-1b2870e219e0
Or at least a likely one. Newer profile, immediately moved to text, wanted to meet, never asked for my pics, then claims she'll need $90 to "cover her shift at the army base" before she can meet. Trolled her for fun and might continue to do so.
Quick way to see least make sure she's the one in her profile is to insist she sends a selfie with the fingers up. That's when scammers ghost / or tell you to fuck off.Yes definitely red flags, again only one picture and in my opinion they need at least 3 on their profile. Even if they are private and they can open them after chat some. Also, when is the last time you meet a woman who didn't want to know what you looked like LOL.
I don't give advances or cover emergencies either. My current long-termer tried this early on and I shot her down; she actually told me much later that she respected me more for it.There are a few times I have been asked to help with rent after the first meeting and before anything physical and those obviously were a hard no. They still saw me again despite my declining to help.
I did give an advance to someone I had been seeing for around 5 months. She had been and and car accident and had agreed to pay the owner of the other vehicle for the damage to their car (She had hit a parked car) We were scheduled to meet that day and she texted me asking to essentially prepay for few meetings. Long story short, I agreed but the amount would be less than I would pay if payed for each on separately kind of a prepaid discount. She definitely showed her appreciation that day when we meet.
Afterwards, I had feeling that I probably was out the money I just gave her, even though I knew her story was legit. We didn't communicate that much between meeting just occasional text, she was using a texting app and only checked her messages on it once in awhile. But when I didn't her from her in a very weeks, figured I had been screwed. After about 4 or 5 weeks I finally get a response from her to my text and she asks if I hadn't received her messages she sent a few weeks earlier. I said I had not received anything.
Turns out she had sent me a message saying that she wouldn't be able to see me without getting an allowance despite our agreement. She had figured I was upset with her which is why I had responded to those message, but I had never received it. I was feeling totally fucked at this point, but didn't get lose my temper. I counter offering to pay half of what I had paid her previously for the next 8 times I saw her and we ended up settling on half for next 6 meetings. In the end it was probably a break even situation on our regular PPM.
So, I guess it worked out as it is year and half later and I am still seeing her (she is the girl in the golf pic I post earlier this week) Hope, I am not posting to much here, but I was on the site for almost 5 years and probably meet over 100 woman. I am not sure how many I actually have had arrangements with since I stopped counting somewhere in the 40's and the was almost 2 years ago. I have some amazing experiences, both good and bad, including having a SB rob me at gun point. I can't really share them with my friends and they wouldn't believe me if I told them LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e872d0c7-a51c-4c54-9bb9-ac1d2287992b
After three days of back and forth: "I don't do fwb sorry".
https://www.seeking.com/member/70dad473-f033-4541-a969-b6cb7d218262
At least it was in her first reply: "I prefer not to meet up".
WiseTraveler
09-20-20, 11:35
Yes definitely red flags, again only one picture and in my opinion they need at least 3 on their profile. Even if they are private and they can open them after chat some. Also, when is the last time you meet a woman who didn't want to know what you looked like LOL.Called it. Either deleted or blocked me. Good riddance.
WiseTraveler
09-20-20, 11:48
....So, I guess it worked out as it is year and half later and I am still seeing her (she is the girl in the golf pic I post earlier this week) Hope, I am not posting to much here, but I was on the site for almost 5 years and probably meet over 100 woman. I am not sure how many I actually have had arrangements with since I stopped counting somewhere in the 40's and the was almost 2 years ago. I have some amazing experiences, both good and bad, including having a SB rob me at gun point. I can't really share them with my friends and they wouldn't believe me if I told them LOL.In the middle of something similar but it looks like it might work out. Found one just my type, 24, was actually even more adorable in person than pics (most SDs would next her based on limited pics and her profile). Great breakfast M&G. Totally not jaded in any way but nervous. Said all the right things. I was ready to head directly to a hotel but had meetings. She messaged after in a panic needing double PPM rate that day knowing it sounded like a scam as I'd talked her through all of the scams both SDs and SBs have to deal with and my view on emergency requests, etc. I was 95% sure she was telling the truth as we'd talked about finances for over 90 minutes so I had a good sense of how she managed money. She just literally hit a bad spot. I took the risk for a meet that afternoon and it was worth the advance alone even if we never met again. I ended up getting basically three meets for the price of two as she felt bad for imposing. I gifted the extra to show good faith.
Sometimes taking a risk pays off and Ryan33 nailed it with the 'figured it was lost $' view since that's exactly the right view to take, same as if you lent $ to friends / family. Expect the worst and you might be pleasantly surprised.
Sometimes taking a risk pays off and Ryan33 nailed it with the 'figured it was lost $' view since that's exactly the right view to take, same as if you lent $ to friends / family. Expect the worst and you might be pleasantly surprised.That it is exactly right, I think you have to take some risks to get the full benefit of SA. Sometimes they pay off and sometimes not, just have to take the bad ones as learning experiences. My best experiences are situations that were totally unexpected.
Apparently I worked it quite differently than a lot of you, as many seem to explain exactly what they are expecting from them before meeting. While I would make it clear that I expected intimacy as part of the arrangement, I usually didn't discuss many details before the first meeting. So, I go into the initial meetings somewhat blind and to be honest they may not have even known what they were willing to offer LOL.
An example is a 21 yr old St Thomas student I meet last year. She was very attractive and we meet without having much discussion all. She tells me she I was the first guy she had meet with off the site and and has only slept two guys in her life. One was her freshman year boyfriend and the other was an older guy. Sounded like neither one really gave her want she needed in bed. She said that she was ok with a physical relationship, but wanted to take it slow and all I am hearing is blah, blah blah. About 90 minutes later I have her bent over my desk back at my office and she is screaming at me to fuck her harder. So much for taking to slow.
My objective is get get them to an in person meeting and than it is up to me to close the deal. If I had told that young woman I expect this or that sexually before we meet, she would have most likely never would have shown up. The point being, there is great risk reward opportunities on SA if you are willing to accept some risks.
The same goes for the use of protection, I never bring it up and assume it won't be needed (but always have some with me). If they ask I say I am good with whatever they are comfortable with, so it is their choice. Once you get in the heat of the action, they usually forget about it unless they aren't using any other type of birth control. Also, many woman have told me asking about bareback before meeting in person is a big turnoff even if they are ok with it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4c8c4bf2-ff07-4209-b15a-77c3b9a53936
Offered 400 PPM and she asked if 500 was "acceptable" instead. I explained that I reserve that level for exceptional women and/or perks and wouldn't commit to 500 without the benefit of a meeting. She was agreeable to this. My expectation was to hold at 400 if we went forward.
Over the past couple days, I'd been working to set up a date. Asked her Saturday night when she'd be available next (now this) week. She replied tonight (Sunday) that she was free "Monday and Tuesday next week" so I inquired about tomorrow, thinking she echoed my terminology for consistency.
Unexpectedly, she said she was "busy all day for sure". No availability anytime this week in fact. ("I work a lot this week. I NEED to work this week. I'm struggling".)
I then suggested that we pencil in "next Tuesday" instead. She responded, "I just said I'm not available on Tuesday". Decided to cut her off at that point; I'm not wasting my breath on how we define weeks.
Also, she's too skittish about COVID-19 for me: "Patio dining still has a lot of people so it makes me nervous".
https://www.seeking.com/member/1dce093d-bf9a-4a41-b927-4683f49cb164
Quickly exchanged private pics and she seemed appropriately eager to meet. Claims to be in a decently rigorous degree program. She initially proposed "400-600" PPM; I countered that 400 seemed reasonable.
I then asked if she was up for a public meeting to gauge chemistry. Her response: "I honestly would rather meet at your place or in a intimate setting". Explained that it's too risky and I no longer do that; crickets in the three days since.
https://www.seeking.com/member/843bd301-dd92-47e2-b85e-a20c5a86ef3e
Despite her profile location, she's a full-time student up in ND who rarely returns apart from breaks. Getting her to quantify how often was like pulling teeth. Save your effort.
The same goes for the use of protection, I never bring it up and assume it won't be needed (but always have some with me). If they ask I say I am good with whatever they are comfortable with, so it is their choice. Once you get in the heat of the action, they usually forget about it unless they aren't using any other type of birth control. Also, many woman have told me asking about bareback before meeting in person is a big turnoff even if they are ok with it.Going bareback is crucial for me, and I too approach each encounter as though it will be sans condom. If they want to discuss protection (and have me decline it), it's up to them.
I agree that resistance to bareback is a lot weaker once they're wet. Also, I've never heard it said, but I think if they're already at your place (particularly in the sack) when you say you won't wear one, they figure they won't get paid for their time if they don't play along and acquiesce accordingly.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4cc695d0-6932-4241-b906-69e95d96d299
I have a funny feeling about her. Any scoop?
After four days, she replied this (Monday) morning and immediately provided her number to text. I inquired about desired frequency of meets and rates; she began her reply with, "Hey handsome man" even though my pics are private, and she punted on a rate: "I am pretty open to PPM negotiation, I want it to be fair for both of us. " She then suggested I send a pic. Along with her profile comment on looking 13, I'm a little suspect.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ece351ce-97c2-4a88-8171-8140f440da31
"Not looking to meet up on a consistent basis".
https://www.seeking.com/member/4cc695d0-6932-4241-b906-69e95d96d299
I have a funny feeling about her. Any scoop?
After four days, she replied this (Monday) morning and immediately provided her number to text. I inquired about desired frequency of meets and rates; she began her reply with, "Hey handsome man" even though my pics are private, and she punted on a rate: "I am pretty open to PPM negotiation, I want it to be fair for both of us. " She then suggested I send a pic. Along with her profile comment on looking 13, I'm a little suspect.Wish I could help you out more on some of these, but haven't renewed my membership since March. So, I don't have any intel on the newer ones and many I had contact with have disappeared since Covid.
Nothing in her profile really sets off any alarms. I agree if they call you handsome before seeing pictures, it is not a positive signal. Only other concern I would have is she says she is looking for guys age 23-30 and I am twice that LOL.
WiseTraveler
09-21-20, 12:57
Wish I could help you out more on some of these, but haven't renewed my membership since March. So, I don't have any intel on the newer ones and many I had contact with have disappeared since Covid.
Nothing in her profile really sets off any alarms. I agree if they call you handsome before seeing pictures, it is not a positive signal. Only other concern I would have is she says she is looking for guys age 23-30 and I am twice that LOL.Seeing a trend with these 1-2 pic profiles that move to text quickly. It's just such a detailed profile though that I doubt it's some fat dude in Estonia trying to scam SDs. Maybe ask for access to her other pic and send her a fake pic that looks similar to you. She'll show her colors quickly enough.
https://www.seeking.com/member/477ad4e2-3ce3-4405-8b68-5e07b5655b7a
Inquired about PPM in my open; she responded with 3 k. Told her that that's the most insane number I've ever heard for PPM in this market, and blocked her.
Seeing a trend with these 1-2 pic profiles that move to text quickly. It's just such a detailed profile though that I doubt it's some fat dude in Estonia trying to scam SDs. Maybe ask for access to her other pic and send her a fake pic that looks similar to you. She'll show her colors quickly enough.Agree that her detailed profile weighs in her favor. I requested her private pic early, but she didn't share it.
On their own, I wouldn't have thought much about the issues I mentioned but combined, they made me think she might be a LEO. I'll let her slide.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c1065627-4aa0-49d4-8ddd-f636768bdc5c
Rapidly moving downfield with this one; she's very eager to meet. She's been on and off the site for a couple years I believe, but I can't quite place her old handle (s). Any intel?
BumbaCloth
09-21-20, 19:01
Any info on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/9e9aee22-b030-43d8-aa82-16b67d0be5da
WiseTraveler
09-21-20, 19:20
https://www.seeking.com/member/c1065627-4aa0-49d4-8ddd-f636768bdc5c
Rapidly moving downfield with this one; she's very eager to meet. She's been on and off the site for a couple years I believe, but I can't quite place her old handle (s). Any intel?She really looks familiar. I could swear I've seen her profile before but with different pics. Don't recall any GPS or scam vibe buy maybe that she looked older (saggy?) than her pics. Don't hold me to it but I agree she ain't new.
HardWoodsman
09-21-20, 19:27
https://www.seeking.com/member/c1065627-4aa0-49d4-8ddd-f636768bdc5c
Rapidly moving downfield with this one; she's very eager to meet. She's been on and off the site for a couple years I believe, but I can't quite place her old handle (s). Any intel?She used to go by Preppy free spirit. She's a lot of fun and open to about anything but she's no spinner.
She used to go by Preppy free spirit. She's a lot of fun and open to about anything but she's no spinner.Yes, Preppy Free Spirit, that was it. Thanks.
I am slightly concerned about her weight based on her pics. I seem to recall her looking thinner in her previous profile. Would you say she's overweight at all? Some of you already know that I draw a hard line on that.
HardWoodsman
09-21-20, 21:34
Yes, Preppy Free Spirit, that was it. Thanks.
I am slightly concerned about her weight based on her pics. I seem to recall her looking thinner in her previous profile. Would you say she's overweight at all? Some of you already know that I draw a hard line on that.She not a BBW by any means but knowing your usual body type she's not it.
https://www.seeking.com/member/73d09667-2447-4a65-ba5b-a2ee2ef77fb5
We have a lunch date set for tomorrow. Friendly, pics look good, and no games so far. Any experience with her?
WiseTraveler
09-22-20, 09:57
Any info on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/9e9aee22-b030-43d8-aa82-16b67d0be5daNo but odd that she has had a profile since March, and literally nothing in the About me or Seeking sections until yesterday / today when she added, "I'm 26 and a teacher. Looking to go back to school to get my Master's. " Reach out, sure, but I'd lock down if she's done this before and what she's looking for before meeting.
https://www.seeking.com/member/73d09667-2447-4a65-ba5b-a2ee2ef77fb5
We have a lunch date set for tomorrow. Friendly, pics look good, and no games so far. Any experience with her?Confirmed via text this morning that we were still on to meet at noon in Bloomington. Apparently she went to the gym this morning, and forgot (or didn't care) when and where we were supposed to meet. Since we'd had that conversation on the site, and were now texting, I didn't hold that too heavily against her. She said she arrived home at 11:15.
Turns out she lives in Owatonna, not Lakeville as stated in her profile, and reported that it would take an hour to get up to the MoA. I then flexed to 12:30, saying that's as late as I could go. She responded asking if we could meet for breakfast tomorrow instead. My answer: Absolutely not.
Confirmed via text this morning that we were still on to meet at noon in Bloomington. Apparently she went to the gym this morning, and forgot (or didn't care) when and where we were supposed to meet. Since we'd had that conversation on the site, and were now texting, I didn't hold that too heavily against her. She said she arrived home at 11:15.
Turns out she lives in Owatonna, not Lakeville as stated in her profile, and reported that it would take an hour to get up to the MoA. I then flexed to 12:30, saying that's as late as I could go. She responded asking if we could meet for breakfast tomorrow instead. My answer: Absolutely not.Funny, I was actually going to post that I ignore profiles listing Lakeville as their location. My experience has been they are usually form somewhere south like Owatonna or Waseca, which makes it harder to schedule meetings, or just flat out fakes.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7404a61c-ef44-4484-94a6-35bd49a30317
Tentatively set a date last Wednesday for this past Saturday, pending a possible trip north with her family. Exchanged a few messages later on Wednesday and into Thursday, but she hasn't logged into the site since then.
If she bounces back, I'd give her another shot as her appearance is dead center in my wheelhouse. Definitely a 10 in my book.
https://www.seeking.com/member/4cc695d0-6932-4241-b906-69e95d96d299
I have a funny feeling about her. Any scoop?
After four days, she replied this (Monday) morning and immediately provided her number to text. I inquired about desired frequency of meets and rates; she began her reply with, "Hey handsome man" even though my pics are private, and she punted on a rate: "I am pretty open to PPM negotiation, I want it to be fair for both of us. " She then suggested I send a pic. Along with her profile comment on looking 13, I'm a little suspect.Another curious interaction with this one.
She texted today asking if I was still interested. I replied that I was not. She then wrote, "Can I ask what changed your mind?" Almost like someone wanted to know how to better lure guys in, bolstering my earlier hunch.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7404a61c-ef44-4484-94a6-35bd49a30317
Tentatively set a date last Wednesday for this past Saturday, pending a possible trip north with her family. Exchanged a few messages later on Wednesday and into Thursday, but she hasn't logged into the site since then.
If she bounces back, I'd give her another shot as her appearance is dead center in my wheelhouse. Definitely a 10 in my book.She does look like a good possibility, but has the platonic flag on her profile.
WiseTraveler
09-23-20, 13:20
Another curious interaction with this one.
She texted today asking if I was still interested. I replied that I was not. She then wrote, "Can I ask what changed your mind?" Almost like someone wanted to know how to better lure guys in, bolstering my earlier hunch.Usually I'd agree but I don't get that sense from her profile. Even the 'looks like a 13 year old' just seems to be her sense of humor, bonus points for hating the Patriots. If anything, she comes across more as someone who'd be very serious about the arrangement. She listed 'looking for guys 23-30' in her profile which rules me out by decades. I do wonder if she'd be high maintenance or a toe dipper. She's 26, has two huskies (so likely living with parents or has $$ of her own as those hairy lovable dumb bastards are expensive to have), and just some college (so leaning towards living with parents).
Basically, no real red flags, cute, has sense of humor. I'd just want to know a lot more.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c1065627-4aa0-49d4-8ddd-f636768bdc5c
Rapidly moving downfield with this one; she's very eager to meet. She's been on and off the site for a couple years I believe, but I can't quite place her old handle (s). Any intel?Had a lunch date set for noon today in St. Paul, but she ran late and I pulled the plug. I only give a 15-minute window now, especially on a first date.
My 15-minute rule is perhaps a bit strict, but I've found over the years that you need some boundaries, especially early in the relationship, to help set expectations and establish respect.
https://www.seeking.com/member/a9bb45a9-74c8-462e-8ab1-b000d53db764
Lists Minneapolis as her location, but actually lives at her school two hours away. Seemed like a decent prospect until discovering that.
Had a lunch date set for noon today in St. Paul, but she ran late and I pulled the plug. I only give a 15-minute window now, especially on a first date.
My 15-minute rule is perhaps a bit strict, but I've found over the years that you need some boundaries, especially early in the relationship, to help set expectations and establish respect.Did she let you know she would be late or just go silent? If they communicate that they are running late, I will usually give them extra time if I can, since I always assume they will be late. Wherever we are meeting, I do like to get their first and stake out where I want to sit, so I never minded when they were little late. If we were meeting at a bar, I would get a drink or two while I am waiting and hopefully they show.
What I hate is when they confirm and then never respond after that. In those cases 15-20 minutes is plenty of time, only takes a minute to send a text that you are going to be late. Although, they were a few times they arrived after I left and then I would have to decide if I wanted to go back or not.
Did she let you know she would be late or just go silent? If they communicate that they are running late, I will usually give them extra time if I can, since I always assume they will be late. Wherever we are meeting, I do like to get their first and stake out where I want to sit, so I never minded when they were little late. If we were meeting at a bar, I would get a drink or two while I am waiting and hopefully they show.
What I hate is when they confirm and then never respond after that. In those cases 15-20 minutes is plenty of time, only takes a minute to send a text that you are going to be late. Although, they were a few times they arrived after I left and then I would have to decide if I wanted to go back or not.I arrived at noon, poked around and didn't see her, then texted to see if she was there. She replied about 5 after to say she was running late and calling an Uber, so I knew she wouldn't make 12:15. I asked for an ETA anyway and she said 12:20 to 12:25, which was just too late for me.
Had she reached out first and earlier, I may have extended her some grace. When they're already late before saying anything, I'm unlikely to wait around.
She does look like a good possibility, but has the platonic flag on her profile.I never know which way to take that platonic flag. Sometimes it seems that if it's checked, platonic is all they're looking for. In other cases, it seems they're open to platonic or something more.
What's been your experience?
HardWoodsman
09-23-20, 19:20
Had a lunch date set for noon today in St. Paul, but she ran late and I pulled the plug. I only give a 15-minute window now, especially on a first date.
My 15-minute rule is perhaps a bit strict, but I've found over the years that you need some boundaries, especially early in the relationship, to help set expectations and establish respect.She's not know for being on time. She's definitely a free spirit. A lot of fun but she has a lot of drama in her life.
HardWoodsman
09-23-20, 19:26
I never know which way to take that platonic flag. Sometimes it seems that if it's checked, platonic is all they're looking for. In other cases, it seems they're open to platonic or something more.
What's been your experience?I've had the same experience. With some it means that's all they are up for and just want to be arm candy while you take them shopping and to dinner. Others have been open to more. If I'm attracted to them I'll send a message and ask. It's free and doesn't take much time.
I never know which way to take that platonic flag. Sometimes it seems that if it's checked, platonic is all they're looking for. In other cases, it seems they're open to platonic or something more.
What's been your experience?Since the number of women looking looking for platonic arrangements has increased in the last few years, I started to ignore them if the say platonic. Most were a waste of time and there are so many other options. If they would reach out to me, I may ask for clarification of their expectations.
NerdyGuy12
09-24-20, 11:34
This is definitely the most entertaining profile I've seen. Always been curious about her, and we finally struck up a bit of a convo. I might grab a drink with her just for shits. Anyone else have any experience?
https://www.seeking.com/member/26d0dc62-d34a-4277-bce8-423afdc2cd6c
https://www.seeking.com/member/69810a9a-41c0-4ea7-94ac-2828f0e0de74
This was a surprise: She's been around awhile (with another profile) and had some decent reviews. I'd even messaged with her previously but didn't wind up meeting.
On Monday, we set a time to meet today at a nature center in the north metro. I texted upon arrival to see whether she was there, but the message remains unread more than an hour later. She won't be given another chance.
At least my second strikeout in as many days is tempered by a second date with an excellent long-term prospect this weekend.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7bfcc0a0-cd4d-4161-8d8a-b4608cf53d05
"I am not looking for sex, however we can do other things".
HotCoffeeCake4
09-24-20, 17:49
https://www.seeking.com/member/3356dc49-7d5a-4c8c-ac2b-73d3e1ab44d6
Anyone tried there hand with this one? Also woop woop first post!
https://www.seeking.com/member/69810a9a-41c0-4ea7-94ac-2828f0e0de74
This was a surprise: She's been around awhile (with another profile) and had some decent reviews. I'd even messaged with her previously but didn't wind up meeting.
On Monday, we set a time to meet today at a nature center in the north metro. I texted upon arrival to see whether she was there, but the message remains unread more than an hour later. She won't be given another chance.
At least my second strikeout in as many days is tempered by a second date with an excellent long-term prospect this weekend.I feel your pain LOL. Hope your weekend date works out.
https://www.seeking.com/member/3356dc49-7d5a-4c8c-ac2b-73d3e1ab44d6
Anyone tried there hand with this one? Also woop woop first post!Welcome, nice to see someone new posting on here. Be nice to build up some more discussions. Nothing for you on her, sorry.
Not sure how I feel about this, but went golfing again this morning with my main girl today. Today was just golf and nothing after. However, she did ask me for $100 allowance for today. I agreed, mostly since we have been see each other for long time and I know she has been out of job since March due to the pandemic. Also, about a year ago she agreed to drop her allowance for our regular meetings by $100 from our original agreement.
Not sure I would have done this if we didn't have a long relationship and wondered what others thought about an allowance for this. She did look hot in her red dress (see pic).
Also, getting the feeling I may be on borrowed time with her due to the boyfriend situation. I Previous lost one of my favorites when her relationship become more serious and didn't want to feel like she was cheating on him. Really has not impacted our physical relationship, but doesn't have the same amount time to hang out and maybe get something to eat after. So, guess I will see what happens.
WiseTraveler
09-25-20, 18:07
https://www.seeking.com/member/7bfcc0a0-cd4d-4161-8d8a-b4608cf53d05
"I am not looking for sex, however we can do other things".Reply, "That's perfect! I'll pay with other things like coupons and money-like instruments. ".
https://www.seeking.com/member/089b440c-62e1-4ec9-b35f-f53b623b36e3
Went back and forth trying to get a PPM figure out of her before offering 400. Her reply: "That's a very insulting amount. Take care". I explained that there are better options in this market for the same or a bit more money before blocking her.
BumbaCloth
09-25-20, 19:45
Any info on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/cdc84020-6593-4c24-a393-2412af454457
Any info on her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/cdc84020-6593-4c24-a393-2412af454457I've messaged her last two profiles, most recently late last night, but no response yet. I'm VERY interested to hear from her though -- she's one of the hottest local SBs I've seen in a while.
https://www.seeking.com/member/089b440c-62e1-4ec9-b35f-f53b623b36e3
Went back and forth trying to get a PPM figure out of her before offering 400. Her reply: "That's a very insulting amount. Take care". I explained that there are better options in this market for the same or a bit more money before blocking her.That is little surprising. I chatted with her last fall, but we never meet. Think she may have found someone before we schedule something. Her initial ask was $500 and I felt she would probably take $400. So, your $400 offer shouldn't have insulting. Did she say anything about her other arrangements, maybe she meet someone who overpaid and now thinks that is what she is entitled too.
That is little surprising. I chatted with her last fall, but we never meet. Think she may have found someone before we schedule something. Her initial ask was $500 and I felt she would probably take $400. So, your $400 offer shouldn't have insulting. Did she say anything about her other arrangements, maybe she meet someone who overpaid and now thinks that is what she is entitled too.No mention of past arrangements but like you, I sense that she may have hit the mother lode last time and now expects the same going forward. When asked what an ideal arrangement might look like, she responded with some fanciful notions:
"An ideal arrangement for I am looking for someone who will be there for me. A man that can show me the world with a genuine effort to give. One I can learn from. I understand that as a successful man you are busy, but checking in between dates would be nice. I'm looking for everything a successful relationship has with luxury. I'm also a hopeless romantic that appreciates romantic efforts. Mutual respect, communication, and trust creates a great foundation of all interpersonal relationships. I'd love to explore new things while discretion is somewhat important to me. Whether it's dining out, boating, traveling, a theatre show, museums, you showing me your favorite places, and things to do. . . The possibilities are endless. I would like a man who genuinely cares and supports me and my dreams. Since I'm young having you be a mentor would be a great bonus. Learning from each other is a positive thing I'd say. So in conclusion, a genuine, romantic, goal driven man that I can create memories with. As for the financial side of things, I'm open as to seeing what you have to offer. I view myself as a very rewarding companion with a wonderful personality".
I almost diagnosed her with GPS and dropped her right there, but instead said that very few to no fancy dates would happen and that I wanted something FWB based, at least initially. She seemed cool with the idea until my offer.
No mention of past arrangements but like you, I sense that she may have hit the mother lode last time and now expects the same going forward. When asked what an ideal arrangement might look like, she responded with some fanciful notions:
"An ideal arrangement for I am looking for someone who will be there for me. A man that can show me the world with a genuine effort to give. One I can learn from. I understand that as a successful man you are busy, but checking in between dates would be nice. I'm looking for everything a successful relationship has with luxury. I'm also a hopeless romantic that appreciates romantic efforts. Mutual respect, communication, and trust creates a great foundation of all interpersonal relationships. I'd love to explore new things while discretion is somewhat important to me. Whether it's dining out, boating, traveling, a theatre show, museums, you showing me your favorite places, and things to do. . . The possibilities are endless. I would like a man who genuinely cares and supports me and my dreams. Since I'm young having you be a mentor would be a great bonus. Learning from each other is a positive thing I'd say. So in conclusion, a genuine, romantic, goal driven man that I can create memories with. As for the financial side of things, I'm open as to seeing what you have to offer. I view myself as a very rewarding companion with a wonderful personality".
I almost diagnosed her with GPS and dropped her right there, but instead said that very few to no fancy dates would happen and that I wanted something FWB based, at least initially. She seemed cool with the idea until my offer.Really long and boring response, hard even read the entire thing.
RoSteele65
09-26-20, 16:06
I've messaged her last two profiles, most recently late last night, but no response yet. I'm VERY interested to hear from her though -- she's one of the hottest local SBs I've seen in a while.I agree. She is so hot. I messaged and haven't heard back. I see she has a wishlist. My guess is she is waiting to get something before she will respond. My other thought is that the pics are not her and she is just expecting to get something from the wishlist.
I've been away from the scene for a while and just got back on SA. I don't remember any wishlists before. I've been ignoring them, but wondering how it works. Are you supposed to send them something off the wishlist or is it to clue you in on a gift to bring when you meet?
RoSteele65
09-26-20, 16:20
I've messaged her last two profiles, most recently late last night, but no response yet. I'm VERY interested to hear from her though -- she's one of the hottest local SBs I've seen in a while.I agree. She is so hot. I messaged and haven't heard back. I see she has a wishlist. My guess is she is waiting to get something before she will respond. My other thought is that the pics are not her and she is just expecting to get something from the wishlist.
I've been away from the scene for a while and just got back on SA. I don't remember any wishlists before. I've been ignoring them, but wondering how it works. Are you supposed to send them something off the wishlist or is it to clue you in on a gift to bring when you meet?
I've been away from the scene for a while and just got back on SA. I don't remember any wishlists before. I've been ignoring them, but wondering how it works. Are you supposed to send them something off the wishlist or is it to clue you in on a gift to bring when you meet?I think it's the former. Several profiles say something like, "Stand out by buying me a gift", i.e., "Buy me a gift and then we'll talk". Thus far, I've ignored the wishlists as I'm sure many are just gift collectors with no intention of talking, let alone meeting anyone.
Her profile has no verification badges, so she could be fake. (I've not reverse searched any of her pics.) FWIW, her former profile popped up in Miami shortly before it went dark.
WiseTraveler
09-27-20, 09:40
I think it's the former. Several profiles say something like, "Stand out by buying me a gift", i.e., "Buy me a gift and then we'll talk". Thus far, I've ignored the wishlists as I'm sure many are just gift collectors with no intention of talking, let alone meeting anyone.
Her profile has no verification badges, so she could be fake. (I've not reverse searched any of her pics.) FWIW, her former profile popped up in Miami shortly before it went dark.If you buy from wish lists, SA gets a cut. You might look at them for inspiration and then get an even better version for your SB. I don't blame them for asking, but there's a really low correlation between SBs who hint at wish lists and what I find appealing. If I wanted to have to impress women to get their attention, I'll go to a bar or get on Tinder.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d6eb29f5-8eb0-43a6-a467-46ea8ee95e5d
I had a couple dates with her over the past two weeks. She's very smart, well spoken and a straight-up 10 (nearly tied with the hottest girl I've ever fucked), but I'm moving on.
Initial communication was timely and articulate. She claimed that in her last arrangement, she received 4,000 a month after starting with 800 PPM. This figure included some travel and overnights. I said that I would not meet her at 800, but we could negotiate something between 500 and 800 in person, depending on what she was willing to give. We then agreed to meet over lunch at a local restaurant.
There, she gave a somewhat fanciful story about her arrangement with a French national who was frequently in town on business. She claimed that she'd travel frequently with him, even overseas, but this didn't seem to square with her status as a full-time student. I took it as a scheme to bid me up and didn't ask much about it.
We wound up splitting the difference between 500 and 800, and went back to my place. She is absolutely beautiful: Legit model-level looks with no tattoos and a nearly full bush. She stands a true 5' 10".
Using info she shared on the date, I was able to identify her and determine that her name is not Victoria, and she's not a currently enrolled student at the University of Minnesota as she stated. In fact, she graduated last fall. As mentioned in a previous post, this raised some suspicions but I decided to move ahead with a second date.
After setting our date for this weekend, I noticed that she blocked me on the site. (Confirmed as a block through an alternate profile.). I debated calling her on it at lunch or after hitting it with her, and chose the latter. When I asked her about it, she came back with a tale about winding down her profile and possibly taking a job in another city. This conflicted with our conversation at lunch, when she said she was looking at moving into a new apartment in the area with no mention of possible relocation. In any case, it didn't rationally explain why she blocked me.
The last straw came when she skipped out after less than four hours, after I asked her about the block. This was less than the date time we had negotiated.
Her old man is managing partner of a local law firm (confirmed), and she claims her mother is a physician. This may help explain her high expectations. Again, I suspect that the story about her previous arrangement is make-believe, especially given that her join date is not visible.
Given her inconsistencies, it's not worth keeping things up with her -- especially for that kind of money.
HardWoodsman
09-27-20, 14:06
That's a high price to pay for any SB to have them run off and cut a pre-arranged date short. I hope you got to filled her up a couple of times before she left at least. The model types can be fun but they usually are pains to deal with over the long haul. I've found the 7/8's are easier to deal with and work a bit harder to make sure you come back. She does look very tempting though.
https://www.seeking.com/member/d6eb29f5-8eb0-43a6-a467-46ea8ee95e5d
I had a couple dates with her over the past two weeks. She's very smart, well spoken and a straight-up 10 (nearly tied with the hottest girl I've ever fucked), but I'm moving on.
Initial communication was timely and articulate. She claimed that in her last arrangement, she received 4,000 a month after starting with 800 PPM. This figure included some travel and overnights. I said that I would not meet her at 800, but we could negotiate something between 500 and 800 in person, depending on what she was willing to give. We then agreed to meet over lunch at a local restaurant.
There, she gave a somewhat fanciful story about her arrangement with a French national who was frequently in town on business. She claimed that she'd travel frequently with him, even overseas, but this didn't seem to square with her status as a full-time student. I took it as a scheme to bid me up and didn't ask much about it.
We wound up splitting the difference between 500 and 800, and went back to my place. She is absolutely beautiful: Legit model-level looks with no tattoos and a nearly full bush. She stands a true 5' 10".
Using info she shared on the date, I was able to identify her and determine that her name is not Victoria, and she's not a currently enrolled student at the University of Minnesota as she stated. In fact, she graduated last fall. As mentioned in a previous post, this raised some suspicions but I decided to move ahead with a second date.
After setting our date for this weekend, I noticed that she blocked me on the site. (Confirmed as a block through an alternate profile.). I debated calling her on it at lunch or after hitting it with her, and chose the latter. When I asked her about it, she came back with a tale about winding down her profile and possibly taking a job in another city. This conflicted with our conversation at lunch, when she said she was looking at moving into a new apartment in the area with no mention of possible relocation. In any case, it didn't rationally explain why she blocked me.
The last straw came when she skipped out after less than four hours, after I asked her about the block. This was less than the date time we had negotiated.
Her old man is managing partner of a local law firm (confirmed), and she claims her mother is a physician. This may help explain her high expectations. Again, I suspect that the story about her previous arrangement is make-believe, especially given that her join date is not visible.
Given her inconsistencies, it's not worth keeping things up with her -- especially for that kind of money.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0ca65714-add3-4668-a4ba-f1dafc9f3620
Messaged me today and immediately moved to Kik. She sent a face and full-body nude, then wanted to see my pics, but I made her tell me more about herself first. She wrote a good introduction and I shared my pictures in return.
I've already found a Facebook profile for her, which boosts my confidence. She's been on the site since July 1; anyone here have contact with her?
That's a high price to pay for any SB to have them run off and cut a pre-arranged date short. I hope you got to filled her up a couple of times before she left at least. The model types can be fun but they usually are pains to deal with over the long haul. I've found the 7/8's are easier to deal with and work a bit harder to make sure you come back. She does look very tempting though.I agree with your comments. Historically, 8s have been my sweet spot in terms of bang vs. bucks / BS. I've let several good 8s go in pursuit of the 9s and 10s who really excite me, and some days I regret that a bit.
BumbaCloth
09-27-20, 19:51
Anyone seen her?
https://www.seeking.com/member/a257c121-9f75-4464-ab7a-c2efdd440e43
Was going through some of my old messages and here are couple that some of you might be interest in meeting.
Meet her few year back was ok with 300 and was fun time BBFS. She has not updated her photos, so not sure if she has changed much since I saw her.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c553b865-8c85-1f4b-9400-4b742e99c32c
Just meet this one for coffee and ended up not following up. She was living in Wyoming, MN and I am in south metro, so just never worked out. Again was ok with $300 open to most everything, but no butt stuff. Is in the military reserve.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0a48f719-b620-4f6a-8698-9969c4bb8dbc
https://www.seeking.com/member/d6eb29f5-8eb0-43a6-a467-46ea8ee95e5d
Using info she shared on the date, I was able to identify her and determine that her name is not Victoria, and she's not a currently enrolled student at the University of Minnesota as she stated. In fact, she graduated last fall. As mentioned in a previous post, this raised some suspicions but I decided to move ahead with a second date.
After setting our date for this weekend, I noticed that she blocked me on the site. (Confirmed as a block through an alternate profile.). I debated calling her on it at lunch or after hitting it with her, and chose the latter. When I asked her about it, she came back with a tale about winding down her profile and possibly taking a job in another city. This conflicted with our conversation at lunch, when she said she was looking at moving into a new apartment in the area with no mention of possible relocation. In any case, it didn't rationally explain why she blocked me.
The last straw came when she skipped out after less than four hours, after I asked her about the block. This was less than the date time we had negotiated.
Her old man is managing partner of a local law firm (confirmed), and she claims her mother is a physician. This may help explain her high expectations. Again, I suspect that the story about her previous arrangement is make-believe, especially given that her join date is not visible.
Given her inconsistencies, it's not worth keeping things up with her -- especially for that kind of money.Usually when the block you like that it is because they don't want you to know they are still looking at other guys. It is no big deal if you are ok with that, if not it is best to move on.
My guess on her based on her profile and what you shared is that this is how she is currently making her living. It is easier to just tell you she is still in school than say what is really going on.
Usually when the block you like that it is because they don't want you to know they are still looking at other guys. It is no big deal if you are ok with that, if not it is best to move on.
My guess on her based on her profile and what you shared is that this is how she is currently making her living. It is easier to just tell you she is still in school than say what is really going on.My thought, too: Since she continued to text with me, she probably figured that even if I noticed her profile was unavailable, I'd assume that she took it down. Particularly since she said she was looking for just one arrangement. Unfortunately for her, I've been doing this too long to take such moves at face value.
With her daytime availability, she may well be doing this for a living. She lists a job on her Facebook profile, but it may not be full time and is certainly not well paying.
Here are couple more I have seen in the past.
This one is really sweet and definitely attractive. Just never seemed to work out on scheduling a second visit, which was my fault. Looks like she has not been active for a few weeks, but well worth the time if she comes back.
https://www.seeking.com/member/48aa0214-48a1-4837-9b82-43417e6a1867
This one is more of a hot mess and not real reliable at least in my experience, but up for anything.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c99538de-b4c9-4a4b-8f2e-1c43c9eb0542
HardWoodsman
09-28-20, 22:41
This one is more of a hot mess and not real reliable at least in my experience, but up for anything.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c99538de-b4c9-4a4b-8f2e-1c43c9eb0542Who doesn't love a hot mess every once in a while.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f8b9e25e-566a-46e6-b9fe-0f4880849296
I'm encountering a trend on SA: Women who agree to meet at a given date and time -- but often not a place -- and disappear. Crest69 is another who fits that bill.
WiseTraveler
09-29-20, 19:15
https://www.seeking.com/member/f8b9e25e-566a-46e6-b9fe-0f4880849296
I'm encountering a trend on SA: Women who agree to meet at a given date and time -- but often not a place -- and disappear. Crest69 is another who fits that bill.You can't fix flakes but I've found that doing a phone call before can help. It's weird but I've never had someone suggest it to me but when I did, it was a good thing. We actually agreed we probably shouldn't meet but it was very amicable. Another time it led to a M&G followed by a memorable session at a Day hotel. Just a thought.
HardWoodsman
09-30-20, 13:22
Nice find. Thans for the information. Might be worth the time if she open on the first meet.
I met her for coffee in the North Loop. The pictures she sent were current and accurate; she's a solid 8. My only knock is excessive makeup; her whole face was covered, which I don't care for.
We shared an enjoyable, direct conversation over our beverages for about a half hour before agreeing to move on to a downtown hotel. She claimed she had to run home first so our start was delayed a bit, but nothing objectionable.
Once in the room, it was clear she knew why we were there. If you're into slender, fit, A-cup women, she fits the bill. No tattoos. Even picky me was pleased with what I saw.
In keeping with strategies we've discussed on this board, I did not bring up protection prior to our encounter. After warming each other up with oral, I attempted to mount her bareback but she stopped me just as I was entering her, asking whether I used protection. I stated that I do not, and we went back to foreplay for a while.
After verbally working her for a while, she agreed to bareback but indicated she was not on birth control so I pulled out to finish. As we left, she said that she wanted to use protection going forward; on that basis, I will not repeat.
She reportedly lives with her "best friend". I clarified that this best friend is female but based on her Facebook profile, there's a guy in the picture. This may help explain why she wants to use protection; I suspect she's doing this on the side without his knowledge.
Overall, she's a pleasant, attractive and somewhat naive girl who likely won't give you any trouble. If you're willing to wrap it, she's a good find. Notably, she did not ask for any particular amount before we met; she left it my discretion based on how well I felt she performed. I slipped 200 in her purse as we got to her car and she later sent me a positive message on Kik.
Spaniard21
09-30-20, 15:05
https://www.seeking.com/member/651f0e52-52ac-45e8-ad6a-54f21ad794d8
Man I need to stop going after the too good to be true type.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0ca65714-add3-4668-a4ba-f1dafc9f3620
Messaged me today and immediately moved to Kik. She sent a face and full-body nude, then wanted to see my pics, but I made her tell me more about herself first. She wrote a good introduction and I shared my pictures in return.
I've already found a Facebook profile for her, which boosts my confidence. She's been on the site since July 1; anyone here have contact with her?I met her for coffee in the North Loop. The pictures she sent were current and accurate; she's a solid 8. My only knock is excessive makeup; her whole face was covered, which I don't care for.
We shared an enjoyable, direct conversation over our beverages for about a half hour before agreeing to move on to a downtown hotel. She claimed she had to run home first so our start was delayed a bit, but nothing objectionable.
Once in the room, it was clear she knew why we were there. If you're into slender, fit, A-cup women, she fits the bill. No tattoos. Even picky me was pleased with what I saw.
In keeping with strategies we've discussed on this board, I did not bring up protection prior to our encounter. After warming each other up with oral, I attempted to mount her bareback but she stopped me just as I was entering her, asking whether I used protection. I stated that I do not, and we went back to foreplay for a while.
After verbally working her for a while, she agreed to bareback but indicated she was not on birth control so I pulled out to finish. As we left, she said that she wanted to use protection going forward; on that basis, I will not repeat.
She reportedly lives with her "best friend". I clarified that this best friend is female but based on her Facebook profile, there's a guy in the picture. This may help explain why she wants to use protection; I suspect she's doing this on the side without his knowledge.
Overall, she's a pleasant, attractive and somewhat naive girl who likely won't give you any trouble. If you're willing to wrap it, she's a good find. Notably, she did not ask for any particular amount before we met; she left it my discretion based on how well I felt she performed. I slipped 200 in her purse as we got to her car and she later sent me a positive message on Kik.
I received this message today from someone I talked with several years ago, but never meet. For some reason she thought I would send her money LOL.
"Anyway you can send me 15. I just paid my rent and I'm broke. Need gas to get to work. Please?? Can you cash app me? 12345 chels".
Met a SB over the weekend, off a SD app. It was an OK time.
After our play, we were getting to know each other.
She mentioned she is also on Seeking. Turns out she was banned twice on seeking, but being female, she is always let back on.
She did say, she prefers the SD app over Seeking. Apparently Seeking, has way more men scammers.
Will I repeat with her?
Lately the SB game has gotten desperate. Quality is down, scams and " Send me gas / rent / nail money", requests way up.
This SB was clearly not smoke free. She showed up famished, and was a lame duck in bed.
In Desperate times. She is a Strong Maybe.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c3dd0a08-0e6f-42fb-8ec9-af8e5de63079
"Nothing beyond cuddling".
NerdyGuy12
10-12-20, 17:41
Any intel on this cutie? https://www.seeking.com/member/28cd406d-294a-4217-9379-3489921da4dc.
Who doesn't love a hot mess every once in a while.I exchanged messages with this one a while back. Wow, something else. We quickly agreed on a time and place for a M&G. Her profile states she wants a public meeting or two to feel comfortable, which I was fine with. She then asked for 2 bills for said M&G. I declined and she went on a rambling incoherent rant about me not willing to pay an allowance for the M&G.
Please note, I have only dipped my toe in this world a few times. I have read plenty, here and a few other sites, and believe it is not common to provide and allowance for a M&G. I do cover any costs associated with the M&G plus will cover gas / uber if needed, and usually that is appreciated by the POT. Are dudes actually paying for M&G's with no BCD time?
I exchanged messages with this one a while back. Wow, something else. We quickly agreed on a time and place for a M&G. Her profile states she wants a public meeting or two to feel comfortable, which I was fine with. She then asked for 2 bills for said M&G. I declined and she went on a rambling incoherent rant about me not willing to pay an allowance for the M&G.
Please note, I have only dipped my toe in this world a few times. I have read plenty, here and a few other sites, and believe it is not common to provide and allowance for a M&G. I do cover any costs associated with the M&G plus will cover gas / uber if needed, and usually that is appreciated by the POT. Are dudes actually paying for M&G's with no BCD time?My first meeting with her was little different. It was last minute and I didn't pay for the M&G part. It was definitely fun night and things progressed very well and I did provide an allowance for what we did later. She didn't seem to have any boundaries I don't usually pay for a M&G either, but you may want to offer $100 to meet and agree on full amount if get along and proceed to BCD as you say. If she shows up odds are you will proceed to second part, so not really risking much. I have done that a few times when they asked for M&G allowance and always worked. Probably greater odds she will be very late or not show up at all.
WiseTraveler
10-16-20, 14:18
My first meeting with her was little different. It was last minute and I didn't pay for the M&G part. It was definitely fun night and things progressed very well and I did provide an allowance for what we did later. She didn't seem to have any boundaries I don't usually pay for a M&G either, but you may want to offer $100 to meet and agree on full amount if get along and proceed to BCD as you say. If she shows up odds are you will proceed to second part, so not really risking much. I have done that a few times when they asked for M&G allowance and always worked. Probably greater odds she will be very late or not show up at all.Something that's worked recently is I tell them "all you have to do is show up and I'll give you $50/$100". I won't send $ in advance but if they physically show up and match the pics, I'll give an advance as a goodwill gesture. If they balk at that they're scammers or not worth the effort.
WiseTraveler
10-18-20, 15:22
SA definitely has a larger number of potential SBs and is cheaper when you can consider the cost per message and has far more robust profile and privacy options. Secret Benefits has some advantages if you are in a large enough metro area. Miami was fantastic. It's a bigger / pricier market but I still found 7-8's at $300-400, one who stayed all night and told me it was 'all you can eat / bang'.
I bought 500 credits, which is $170. That's twice the monthly SA membership but the main benefit is SBs don't expect allowances and are generally more willing to meet quickly and start with PPM. If your profile isn't a dumpster fire, you'll stand out. You can also carry your credits over so it's easier to go dormant for a while.
You pay 10 credits (3. 50) to see or send the first message to a new SB. Additional messaging is free after that. Most SBs also have secret / hidden pics or videos that you have to pay 10 credits more to see. Pro tip. Never pay to see hidden pics. Just chat enough to get their #, then ask for them offline. Every single SB I messaged replied which didn't always happen on SA. The negative is you'll get a few messages from SBs that just say 'heyyyy' and then they don't reply again so I became very picky on who I replied to. There were also some who it seemed like we were about to agree on a time / place and then they dropped, "Oh, I'm in fucking Indiana until next week / month. ".
In the Twin Cities, the SB pool is pretty small, maybe 5-10% of what you'd find on SA and there's some overlap with the most active SBs on both sites. Not sure if it's worth it for just here but if you travel to any larger cities, then it's a good way to enhance your chances.
Get your elevator speech / message ready to save time. "Not interested in platonic, online, or flying you in to me. No advance payments. Let's have some fun. " A few insisted on advance payments to show I'm real, serious, not a murderer (huh?) but I just replied that's up to them but they're cutting their potential M&Gs by 90% - good luck. It's a SD market.
Just had one block me. She wanted $500 for non-sexual meets and if she feels comfortable later on then the sex. I told 50-100 for non-sex meets. That was not met well. But I knew this wasn't going anywhere. Her comeback " She is not a prostitute" Whatever helps you sleep at night. "This is not Burger king and cannot have it my way" "She makes the rules and there are plenty of guys paying just to see her" LOL. Decent looking body, but already has had a kid. So.
Been putting out a lot of feelers but they are so slow and sporadic in replying.
WiseTraveler
10-20-20, 10:59
Just had one block me. She wanted $500 for non-sexual meets and if she feels comfortable later on then the sex. I told 50-100 for non-sex meets. That was not met well. But I knew this wasn't going anywhere. Her comeback " She is not a prostitute" Whatever helps you sleep at night. "This is not Burger king and cannot have it my way" "She makes the rules and there are plenty of guys paying just to see her" LOL. Decent looking body, but already has had a kid. So.
Been putting out a lot of feelers but they are so slow and sporadic in replying.Just found one who reached out to me, swapped #s, was fine with $200-300 PPM, and she can host. She had only done this once before and was super nervous but it ended up being fantastic. Sometimes you get lucky.
Any info on this SB? Please let me know thanks.
https://www.seeking.com/member/04f32fda-6a37-499e-a38a-e8761d4b63b5
She is ready to meet.
This SB is ready to meet for the right allowance but wanted to get some Intel if anyone has any. Appreciate.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8c1ab354-d6c5-45ac-b246-80a94bab806c
I'm talking to the below SBs on SA and trying to gather intel. Appreciate any information on these. Most of them responded and ready to meet. I'll keep you posted if make any progress.
Lyss091.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1a059358-2cef-4614-856a-ddfa127c44e1
Sexytoegirl.
https://www.seeking.com/member/eed68710-0a7f-4d19-8ef0-48340edad5ee
Alexasugarbabe.
https://www.seeking.com/member/dcaa7c60-1ff8-42f4-b89b-5f01265c7ff9
Monalisasmiles79.
https://www.seeking.com/member/38f3d564-6459-4552-acca-339b394c6710
HardWoodsman
10-24-20, 13:25
I'm talking to the below SBs on SA and trying to gather intel. Appreciate any information on these. Most of them responded and ready to meet. I'll keep you posted if make any progress.
Monalisasmiles79.
https://www.seeking.com/member/38f3d564-6459-4552-acca-339b394c6710She's had a couple of profiles before this one. I don't remember the names. We messaged back and forth a bit but never ended up meeting.
This SB is ready to meet for the right allowance but wanted to get some Intel if anyone has any. Appreciate.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8c1ab354-d6c5-45ac-b246-80a94bab806cThis one says she can host and started from $350 and gone as low as 150. Sounds like a pro because she talks about time, she can do only 45 minutes for 150. Let me know if anyone wants digits.
https://www.seeking.com/member/539094e5-ea4e-47bd-868d-eda2387c85e3
This SB is ready to meet and she agreed for 150 per meet. Also can host at saint paul area. Anyone have any Intel on this one?
This SB is ready to meet for the right allowance but wanted to get some Intel if anyone has any. Appreciate.
https://www.seeking.com/member/8c1ab354-d6c5-45ac-b246-80a94bab806cIgnore this one, she is dumb to ask for upfront money without even meeting once. Time wasters and may be scammer.
Arisvangua
10-26-20, 00:42
Yeah, Army is good to go. She literally has a closet of sex toys and is super into this. We hung for 3 hours at her apartment in dinkytown. She's down for 3 holes bare. Good time all around.What was the damage brother?
https://www.seeking.com/member/7d908c7c-8cd0-4753-a361-13f5d8d2711c
Curvy girl is ready for ppm, I'm talking to her but any Intel will help.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7d908c7c-8cd0-4753-a361-13f5d8d2711c
Curvy girl is ready for ppm, I'm talking to her but any Intel will help.Update 10/26: she can't host but open to drive and asking for 200/250 ppm. Usually available between 8-12 on weekdays.
https://www.seeking.com/member/abb1666e-350e-4abc-a2ff-3b469fa92d1b
Any Intel on this big BBW? LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/77645340-993b-462c-9662-e42d5806cc89
This one is trying to scam for gas money she texted from number ending with 760 xxx7453.
https://www.seeking.com/member/7d908c7c-8cd0-4753-a361-13f5d8d2711c
This SB is open to meet for 200 per meet. Trying to setup something. Any Intel is appreciated.
Profile says NSA, FWB. When setting up a meet asks for gas money. Sent the money. No replies with texting or calling. I messaged her through SA asking what happened? She replied "huh? I said we were supposed to meet. Then she blocked me, realizing who I was. Not smart enough to keep track of who she is scamming. Normally I have stuck with what others say, no money upfront or before we meet. But gas money, not a big deal. Just giving a heads up. I reported her on SA. Not expecting them to do anything.
Deemarie6543.
918xxxx660.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b3c3a006-1fbe-4226-a26f-64a4aedbffc1
Profile says NSA, FWB. When setting up a meet asks for gas money. Sent the money. No replies with texting or calling. I messaged her through SA asking what happened? She replied "huh? I said we were supposed to meet. Then she blocked me, realizing who I was. Not smart enough to keep track of who she is scamming. Normally I have stuck with what others say, no money upfront or before we meet. But gas money, not a big deal. Just giving a heads up. I reported her on SA. Not expecting them to do anything.
Deemarie6543.
918xxxx660.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b3c3a006-1fbe-4226-a26f-64a4aedbffc1When they say gas money or any money before meeting that's means it's a scam. All the pictures that they show us online are not true until we meet them and confirm. Many profiles are fake on SA so think with head before doing any financial transactions.
WiseTraveler
11-04-20, 14:15
When they say gas money or any money before meeting that's means it's a scam. All the pictures that they show us online are not true until we meet them and confirm. Many profiles are fake on SA so think with head before doing any financial transactions.Very true. Same girl wanted to meet, badly, but we never set a date as she was really a backup in case others fell through. Am guessing she would have hit me up then for gas money (which is the stupidest fucking excuse nowadays -- gas is so cheap and how many women have cars running on empty?
WiseTraveler
11-05-20, 12:58
If someone is on Secret Benefits, we could share intel but I'll keep this thread to seeking.
OceanlovesD - https://www.seeking.com/member/4c9ac300-efdc-4bf0-a99f-eefaaa165a72 - too young for me but would be a great find for someone else. I can't meet that often so really have to keep it PPM but she doesn't want to feel like a ho so it's just not a good match. $250 per meet is good considering she's young and hot but know that you can't just make it a booty call. I don't want to pay $1,000 over four months for two intimate sessions and two chatty meals with a teenager but that's me.
Funsizebbby - https://www.seeking.com/member/308d9552-5431-4886-a643-64552ee93b54 - has had arrangements before. Wants $300 but can host which is huge. Probably my top new option right now. Fun to chat with, doesn't spam 'how are you daddi?' messages thinking that's sexy / supporting. Is curvy but I like that when they're younger. At 30, I hope she doesn't have stretch marks but no kids so worth exploring.
Mobaby233 - https://www.seeking.com/member/ad03900c-32ea-4492-aacc-f005ed167856 - has been around a while. Almost set something up over a year ago but she was so flaky responding I moved on. Was far far more aggressive / interested so likely a semi-pro. $250 but you have to Uber her to hotel so it could get close to $400 total. Good backup plan when top choices aren't available.
Nakia - https://www.seeking.com/member/0aab9f69-4668-4c97-82bf-3405d55798f4 - Just chatting now. Appreciate an intel.
There were others who ended up being in Mankato (not Chaska) or Hastings or BFE so not worth sharing. Welcome intel / experiences on any of the above.
[QUOTE=DrSuess;5039767]I'm talking to the below SBs on SA and trying to gather intel. Appreciate any information on these. Most of them responded and ready to meet. I'll keep you posted if make any progress.
Lyss091.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1a059358-2cef-4614-856a-ddfa127c44e1[/URL]
19 yr old, Mankato College student. YMMV.
We chatted for 3 days and decided on a hotel meeting.
Day of the meeting, there was no response, and she was a No Show.
The Next day I sent her a chat: Why were you a No Show?
Her Response: I got Busy and Forgot.
Smh. I will wait around for you, my Highness.
WiseTraveler
11-06-20, 19:07
[QUOTE=Happtrav;5059125][QUOTE=DrSuess;5039767]I'm talking to the below SBs on SA and trying to gather intel. Appreciate any information on these. Most of them responded and ready to meet. I'll keep you posted if make any progress.
Lyss091.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1a059358-2cef-4614-856a-ddfa127c44e1[/URL].
19 yr old, Mankato College student. YMMV.
We chatted for 3 days and decided on a hotel meeting.
Day of the meeting, there was no response, and she was a No Show.
The Next day I sent her a chat: Why were you a No Show?
Her Response: I got Busy and Forgot.
Smh. I will wait around for you, my Highness. [ / QUOTE].
I've learned to put some gateways up.
For ones I'm pretty sure are not flakes: "I'll agree to this but want to protect both my time and yours. It's really simple. Text me by noon confirming our meet. Even earlier is okay! If you don't, I won't waste time reserving a hotel or following up with you. If something comes up, tell me early, not with excuses later or just 5 minutes before. ".
For unknowns / flakes: "For this to work you'll have to text me by noon to confirm. We'll then meet at (coffee shop or bar near hotel) and I'll book the hotel and then we can head over. ".
When I do meet and greets and even before then, I reinforce how important responsiveness and respect are to me. I understand if someone can't respond because they are at work, with family, whatever. What I won't tolerate is being ghosted or lack of response when we've agreed to meet.
I usually don't give second chances but when I do, I give them some times to meet and have them organize it. They have to send me the place, confirm the day of and then be there on time. One actually did it and said it helped her understand she had to grow up.
Arisvangua
11-06-20, 20:21
These two have the near same exact lines, had me kind of sus tbh. Both are gorgeous women too. Almost believed the first one was legit.
They might be, but I'm not playing that game, too good to be true imo haha.
https://www.seeking.com/member/560d89fd-10d4-4573-8d86-4ca142f0b0c7
https://www.seeking.com/member/1d2b842a-81c1-4720-be81-3f264ce5ad1f
These two have the near same exact lines, had me kind of sus tbh. Both are gorgeous women too. Almost believed the first one was legit.
They might be, but I'm not playing that game, too good to be true imo haha.
https://www.seeking.com/member/560d89fd-10d4-4573-8d86-4ca142f0b0c7
https://www.seeking.com/member/1d2b842a-81c1-4720-be81-3f264ce5ad1fI have seen Ash several times when she first joined the site, she was working at Instacart and in the military reserve at the time. She was a lot of fun. Since then she seems to have become more of a pro and traveled frequently pre-Covid. Probably won't be a bargain at this time, but should offer a good experience.
Be aware, she does get little testy while messaging, but was really easy to get along with in person. So, don’t let that throw you, but if you cant handle fiery Latin women you should stay away. If my account was active I would probably message her, just hope she hasnt become jaded over the last few years.
Also, just curious what game you thought they were playing on you?
Arisvangua
11-07-20, 12:33
I have seen Ash several times when she first joined the site, she was working at Instacart and in the military reserve at the time. She was a lot of fun. Since then she seems to have become more of a pro and traveled frequently pre-Covid. Probably won't be a bargain at this time, but should offer a good experience.
Be aware, she does get little testy while messaging, but was really easy to get along with in person. So, dont let that throw you, but if you cant handle fiery Latin women you should stay away. If my account was active I would probably message her, just hope she hasnt become jaded over the last few years.
Also, just curious what game you thought they were playing on you?
Ah, I see, thanks brother.
Thought it was auto generated bots haha.
The lines were near identical.
I use tinder for dates too, and there's time when I'd see 20 Kimberly in a row all with the same bio too. Than they'd message the same random link.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ce395478-5327-4213-b7f7-5fbb325e1587
Comewiths is back with a new profile. Anyone made contact with her? I reached out through her old profile but no dice; I imagine she's buried in replies.
I've messaged her last two profiles, most recently late last night, but no response yet. I'm VERY interested to hear from her though -- she's one of the hottest local SBs I've seen in a while.
https://www.seeking.com/member/ce395478-5327-4213-b7f7-5fbb325e1587
Comewiths is back with a new profile. Anyone made contact with her? I reached out through her old profile but no dice; I imagine she's buried in replies.I reached out to her last couple profiles, nothing. I did run across her Tinder profile this weekend, going by the name "Charli".
WiseTraveler
11-14-20, 11:46
Sugargirlmia: https://www.seeking.com/member/d4dccb4a-81a4-4e08-9377-82d925c750b1.
We had connected in the past as she messaged me on SA and texted me wanting to meet today (red flag). Wants $300 but I'd have to get hotel so pass for now.
__Skye_: https://www.seeking.com/member/269ac57a-8547-4447-a8b1-694eb09663fc.
Very attractive, nice bio, reached out with a great message. Saying all of the right things. Haven't talked money yet but almost TGTBT.
Lliillii: https://www.seeking.com/member/43edde11-2a6f-454b-b2cc-e39ed774540f.
Seems eager, was normal / cool via text. Reasonable ask for $. Just curious if anyone had more intel.
Thanks!
Sugargirlmia: https://www.seeking.com/member/d4dccb4a-81a4-4e08-9377-82d925c750b1.
We had connected in the past as she messaged me on SA and texted me wanting to meet today (red flag). Wants $300 but I'd have to get hotel so pass for now.
__Skye_: https://www.seeking.com/member/269ac57a-8547-4447-a8b1-694eb09663fc.
Very attractive, nice bio, reached out with a great message. Saying all of the right things. Haven't talked money yet but almost TGTBT.
Lliillii: https://www.seeking.com/member/43edde11-2a6f-454b-b2cc-e39ed774540f.
Seems eager, was normal / cool via text. Reasonable ask for $. Just curious if anyone had more intel.
Thanks!Sorry, no information to help you out, but agree that Skye's profile is intriguing. Pictures are little concerning as I usually like to see more natural photos instead of staged posses, but wouldn't be a deal breaker. She may seem TGTBT, but definitely worth taking a shot. I found it is always best to aim high on SA and use the average ones to fill in during the slow times.
Also, for anyone thinking of jumping in the SA pool, in my experience this has alway been one of the best times of year. With Thanksgiving and Christmas break they have more free time and can use extra money for Christmas. Of coarse things will be different due to Covid this year.
HardWoodsman
11-14-20, 20:38
Bri_lovely968455.
She has a total pro vibe. She dances and is all about the hustle. Once in her room the service was poor, uninterested and unconvincing.
She also had a heavy smoke smell on her but lists being a non smoker. Avoid!
https://www.seeking.com/member/d459bd9e-8a31-459b-8d17-f61d4a958e92
WiseTraveler
11-15-20, 13:00
Sorry, no information to help you out, but agree that Skye's profile is intriguing. Pictures are little concerning as I usually like to see more natural photos instead of staged posses, but wouldn't be a deal breaker. She may seem TGTBT, but definitely worth taking a shot. I found it is always best to aim high on SA and use the average ones to fill in during the slow times.
Almost certain Skye is a scammer. I shared my # and she said she couldn't get through with texts then her location now shows Connecticut. Sigh.
Sugargirlmia has been texting like a debt collector. I asked her to slow down since we'd never met and she was all about just meeting at hotel. TODAY? HOW ABOUT TOMORROW? SO NOON OR 1:30? Will probably block her. Total pro vibe which can be fine but the pushy ones usually don't give a great experience.
Almost certain Skye is a scammer. I shared my # and she said she couldn't get through with texts then her location now shows Connecticut. Sigh.
Sugargirlmia has been texting like a debt collector. I asked her to slow down since we'd never met and she was all about just meeting at hotel. TODAY? HOW ABOUT TOMORROW? SO NOON OR 1:30? Will probably block her. Total pro vibe which can be fine but the pushy ones usually don't give a great experience.That is unfortunate, but not surprising.
Here is one you may want to keep an eye on. She hasn't been on for few weeks, but expect she will may be back soon. Lot of fun and appears to be a much better option than Sugargirlmia LOL.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f7458679-d4ea-4e53-b036-31a88092746e
This one is can be tough to get an initial response from, but worth the effort.
https://www.seeking.com/member/2d97a649-b864-4ead-b92b-4e62e9469574
WiseTraveler
11-24-20, 14:31
I'm close to locking down my first choice SB for the time being. Checks all of the boxes for me (not sharing the link, sorry) but there is one who intrigues me as a backup plan. Any intel?
Brittaml - https://www.seeking.com/member/2d8a7fe4-0dfb-4cdd-beb1-d784a8b77eda.
At Ryan33 thanks for the suggestions. They no longer show as active but I did see their profiles before they hid them or went inactive (can't imagine they blocked me as I didn't reach out) and they looked good!
Hey fellas, I'm a newbie to SA (usually just go the escort route or do my mongering abroad) and was hoping I could get an idea of how it exactly works.
How do you ensure that you actually get to hook up? Can you get straight to the point and state you would like to hookup? Do you have to dance around your intentions (I. E. "hoping to have some fun" type talk) or can you explicitly say I am looking to hookup? Or is that legally iffy / against the site's etiquette? I'm not looking to pay triple digits just to share a meal and cuddle over a movie.
Are most of these women expecting allowances or will some accept pay-per-meeting? I guess I'm just asking if I can approach these women as escorts. Obviously some will be upset if they're expecting the traditional allowance and pampering arrangement, but I'm hoping there are escorts using SA as another avenue and I could approach them accordingly.
WiseTraveler
12-14-20, 14:46
Hey fellas, I'm a newbie to SA (usually just go the escort route or do my mongering abroad) and was hoping I could get an idea of how it exactly works.
How do you ensure that you actually get to hook up? Can you get straight to the point and state you would like to hookup? Do you have to dance around your intentions (I. E. "hoping to have some fun" type talk) or can you explicitly say I am looking to hookup? Or is that legally iffy / against the site's etiquette? I'm not looking to pay triple digits just to share a meal and cuddle over a movie.
Are most of these women expecting allowances or will some accept pay-per-meeting? I guess I'm just asking if I can approach these women as escorts. Obviously some will be upset if they're expecting the traditional allowance and pampering arrangement, but I'm hoping there are escorts using SA as another avenue and I could approach them accordingly.I had a write up I've used elsewhere so pasted it below. Short answer: It takes a lot of research but it's worth it for the variety and if you enjoy the search / hunt process. If you are really risk-averse and hate negotiating, it may not be for you.
Here's a quick guide on how to start:
Join seeking and set up a basic profile with no details. Wait a few days and you'll get an offer from the site for 20-50% off the $80 monthly membership fee. Immediately uncheck the automatic renewal box. You shouldn't need more than a month to get a pipeline / harem going. Sign up and hide your profile or you'll get a fuckton of scammer / hooker messages. Set it so others can't see you view their profile or favorite them. The goal is for you do all of the outreach. Don't even worry about your full profile yet. Just add enough that the site will let you do searches and hide your profile.
Set your filters and search. I filter out 'platonic' 'marriage minded' 'seeking trans' and anyone too tall / fat and within 50 miles, sort by last online. I avoid 'queen / spoil / get me to open up eventually / platonic / online / not ready to meet due to COVID' and anything angry / passive-aggressive 'don't waste me time' etc. They never work out. My filtered results = 8,000 but only around 1,000 have been online within the last three days. Searching is addictive so you'll probably be on a lot at first. It really is window shopping. Favorite / hide / block as you go.
Now work on your profile.
About me: Just give an idea of who you are beyond the basic stats. I don't do wine / dine / trips but I try to show I'm a fun hang and am attentive and respectful. I'm honest about my looks without being a downer.
What I'm looking for: I'm mainly trying to weed out the entitled prom queen types and scammers. "Not interested in platonic, online, or flying you to me. With COVID, I'm not going to dinners or clubs. I take it seriously and am not interested if those who don't. I can't get away that often so can only meet 1-2 times / month. Not really interested in the arm candy type anyways. I do want a connection and chemistry but am not going to pay someone just to chat or listen. I have my own friends and I'm not looking to change your or my relationship status or home lives. " You can adjust as you need but I've pretty much made it clear I'm looking for low volume Pay-Per-Meet (PPM).
Reach out to your favorites. Always note something about their profile or pics but you can use a templated message otherwise. "Hey there! I'm still getting my profile set up and figuring out this crazy sugar bowl but I wanted to reach out to you because you seem cool and my type. Let me know if you are interested in chatting more. " This will up your chat game and give you confidence if nothing else.
*Do not discuss $ or specific sexual activities on the site. This will get you banned. Connect enough to confirm there's potential, then you can share pics and chat via text. *.
*Reinforce you don't send $ in advance or for emergencies. Just say, "Even though I'm new at this, I've already been hit up for $ for surgeries, gas, emergency trips, sick pets, etc. I get that things like that happen in real life but please please don't ask or I'll end the arrangement and block you. It's just too common a scam. " I add that if they are that close to needing to hit me up for $, they shouldn't be in the bowl at all. It should enhance their lives, not be something they depend on for survival. *.
I target 6. 5-7. 5's and offer $150-200 per meet, more if they host or we go two rounds. I'll also surprise them with a gift sometimes (and I do). Some may block you or counter with $300 but it depends on their hotness level. I might try $300 but to continue, it better be world shaking unless they are hosting. Usually we settle on $200-250 which is fair as they are lower volume and more enthusiastic than pros and often allow bareback. If you are aiming more for 8's-9's, then offer $300 and accept $400 or even $500.
Set up a meet and greet. Pre-COVID, you'd meet at a coffee shop or bar (don't do dinner as it's agonizingly long if you don't click). Now you can grab coffee and chat in her car. Make sure you both match pics and there's some chemistry. One girl brought her baby to the meet and offered to blow me in the car. I declined.
Set up a time / place to meet. Reinforce that you value respect and communication so you expect to confirm the morning of and not have to chase / wait for responses. I have no tolerance for flakes. If you have to get a hotel, use the DayUse site / app. $60-70 for a good hotel for 4-8 hours and free cancellation. Just insist on meeting at the hotel before you check in. Check in and send her the room #. Pay her the agreed upon amount in the room once she's at least taken her shoes and coat off and gotten in the room. Have fun. Be respectful. Communicate. Focus on her pleasure. I've gotten freebies later because they missed just being cherished and feeling good.
If you have kinks or unusual requests, consider discussing before asking 'in the moment' but that's up to you. Many guys don't discuss condoms until they've eaten the girl out and have her revved up and then start to mount her. While that is probably more likely to work, it's kind of a dick move (pun intended).
Re: Secret Benefits. It's got an annoying token format where you buy $90/170/290 worth of credits that you then spend to send or read initial messages. Once you've started a chat, it's free to chat more after that. It costs ten tokens or $3-4 to send or read an initial message. Quick tips:
Only use tokens to send initial messages or read messages from girls you are interested in. Don't pay to read every message, view hidden pics, or send pics.
Move the chat to text if there's potential and share / get pics that way.
There are few fewer girls on SB but they are more willing to do short-term arrangements and PPMs. I've chatted a 10 am and been balls deep by 2 pm. There is a fair amount of overlap so you can also identify someone on SB but then actually reach out on SA.
I wouldn't load up tokens just for MSP area but if you are going to travel to a larger metro area, get $200 in tokens a few weeks before and work both cities. You can set up pipelines for home and travel.
Sorry for the manifesto but I've had a few PMs about the sites so I thought I'd paste this old guide in. Cheers.
I had a write up I've used elsewhere so pasted it below. Short answer: It takes a lot of research but it's worth it for the variety and if you enjoy the search / hunt process. If you are really risk-averse and hate negotiating, it may not be for you.
Here's a quick guide on how to start:
Join seeking and set up a basic profile with no details. Wait a few days and you'll get an offer from the site for 20-50% off the $80 monthly membership fee. Immediately uncheck the automatic renewal box. You shouldn't need more than a month to get a pipeline / harem going. Sign up and hide your profile or you'll get a fuckton of scammer / hooker messages. Set it so others can't see you view their profile or favorite them. The goal is for you do all of the outreach. Don't even worry about your full profile yet. Just add enough that the site will let you do searches and hide your profile.
Set your filters and search. I filter out 'platonic' 'marriage minded' 'seeking trans' and anyone too tall / fat and within 50 miles, sort by last online. I avoid 'queen / spoil / get me to open up eventually / platonic / online / not ready to meet due to COVID' and anything angry / passive-aggressive 'don't waste me time' etc. They never work out. My filtered results = 8,000 but only around 1,000 have been online within the last three days. Searching is addictive so you'll probably be on a lot at first. It really is window shopping. Favorite / hide / block as you go.
Now work on your profile.
About me: Just give an idea of who you are beyond the basic stats. I don't do wine / dine / trips but I try to show I'm a fun hang and am attentive and respectful. I'm honest about my looks without being a downer.
What I'm looking for: I'm mainly trying to weed out the entitled prom queen types and scammers. "Not interested in platonic, online, or flying you to me. With COVID, I'm not going to dinners or clubs. I take it seriously and am not interested if those who don't. I can't get away that often so can only meet 1-2 times / month. Not really interested in the arm candy type anyways. I do want a connection and chemistry but am not going to pay someone just to chat or listen. I have my own friends and I'm not looking to change your or my relationship status or home lives. " You can adjust as you need but I've pretty much made it clear I'm looking for low volume Pay-Per-Meet (PPM).
Reach out to your favorites. Always note something about their profile or pics but you can use a templated message otherwise. "Hey there! I'm still getting my profile set up and figuring out this crazy sugar bowl but I wanted to reach out to you because you seem cool and my type. Let me know if you are interested in chatting more. " This will up your chat game and give you confidence if nothing else.
*Do not discuss $ or specific sexual activities on the site. This will get you banned. Connect enough to confirm there's potential, then you can share pics and chat via text. *.
*Reinforce you don't send $ in advance or for emergencies. Just say, "Even though I'm new at this, I've already been hit up for $ for surgeries, gas, emergency trips, sick pets, etc. I get that things like that happen in real life but please please don't ask or I'll end the arrangement and block you. It's just too common a scam. " I add that if they are that close to needing to hit me up for $, they shouldn't be in the bowl at all. It should enhance their lives, not be something they depend on for survival. *.
I target 6. 5-7. 5's and offer $150-200 per meet, more if they host or we go two rounds. I'll also surprise them with a gift sometimes (and I do). Some may block you or counter with $300 but it depends on their hotness level. I might try $300 but to continue, it better be world shaking unless they are hosting. Usually we settle on $200-250 which is fair as they are lower volume and more enthusiastic than pros and often allow bareback. If you are aiming more for 8's-9's, then offer $300 and accept $400 or even $500.
Set up a meet and greet. Pre-COVID, you'd meet at a coffee shop or bar (don't do dinner as it's agonizingly long if you don't click). Now you can grab coffee and chat in her car. Make sure you both match pics and there's some chemistry. One girl brought her baby to the meet and offered to blow me in the car. I declined.
Set up a time / place to meet. Reinforce that you value respect and communication so you expect to confirm the morning of and not have to chase / wait for responses. I have no tolerance for flakes. If you have to get a hotel, use the DayUse site / app. $60-70 for a good hotel for 4-8 hours and free cancellation. Just insist on meeting at the hotel before you check in. Check in and send her the room #. Pay her the agreed upon amount in the room once she's at least taken her shoes and coat off and gotten in the room. Have fun. Be respectful. Communicate. Focus on her pleasure. I've gotten freebies later because they missed just being cherished and feeling good.
If you have kinks or unusual requests, consider discussing before asking 'in the moment' but that's up to you. Many guys don't discuss condoms until they've eaten the girl out and have her revved up and then start to mount her. While that is probably more likely to work, it's kind of a dick move (pun intended).
Re: Secret Benefits. It's got an annoying token format where you buy $90/170/290 worth of credits that you then spend to send or read initial messages. Once you've started a chat, it's free to chat more after that. It costs ten tokens or $3-4 to send or read an initial message. Quick tips:
Only use tokens to send initial messages or read messages from girls you are interested in. Don't pay to read every message, view hidden pics, or send pics.
Move the chat to text if there's potential and share / get pics that way.
There are few fewer girls on SB but they are more willing to do short-term arrangements and PPMs. I've chatted a 10 am and been balls deep by 2 pm. There is a fair amount of overlap so you can also identify someone on SB but then actually reach out on SA.
I wouldn't load up tokens just for MSP area but if you are going to travel to a larger metro area, get $200 in tokens a few weeks before and work both cities. You can set up pipelines for home and travel.
Sorry for the manifesto but I've had a few PMs about the sites so I thought I'd paste this old guide in. Cheers.Wow, nice! This is SD 101. LOL.
Yes, this is a true story. My arrangement partner stalked and called my wife. Outing me for cheating. This was 3 years ago, it almost completely destroyed my marriage and family and friend group. My advice to other married guys, if you must stray, pay an escort. The "girl next door" arrangement with complete discretion is a risky way to go. They develop feelings, and when you want to break it off, sometimes they want revenge! I suppose you run the same risk with a working girl, but at least it isn't as intertwined as an arrangement where they might learn your real name.
Spaniard21
12-21-20, 12:04
Yes, this is a true story. My arrangement partner stalked and called my wife. Outing me for cheating. This was 3 years ago, it almost completely destroyed my marriage and family and friend group. My advice to other married guys, if you must stray, pay an escort. The "girl next door" arrangement with complete discretion is a risky way to go. They develop feelings, and when you want to break it off, sometimes they want revenge! I suppose you run the same risk with a working girl, but at least it isn't as intertwined as an arrangement where they might learn your real name.That is the ultimate nightmare scenario. This is why I have a Google Voice # that is tied to my work cell phone with all notifications off, also I never bring anyone to my real home, have a separate bank account, cash is king, paper trails or any trail are your worst enemy. Also come up with a different name for yourself if you can.
I see they are raising the monthly price to $99.99 the first of the year. I think when I started it was only $60 and you could buy a 7 day member using their app and think that was around $20 or so.
I haven't renewed since March and was considering jumping back in for a month. Had hoped they might have a year end special deal, but doesn't appear that they will.
WiseTraveler
12-22-20, 10:51
I see they are raising the monthly price to $99.99 the first of the year. I think when I started it was only $60 and you could buy a 7 day member using their app and think that was around $20 or so.
I haven't renewed since March and was considering jumping back in for a month. Had hoped they might have a year end special deal, but doesn't appear that they will.If you start a new profile and then just wait a few days, they'll usually email you a discount code for 20% - 40% off.
I had a write up I've used elsewhere so pasted it below. Short answer: It takes a lot of research but it's worth it for the variety and if you enjoy the search / hunt process. If you are really risk-averse and hate negotiating, it may not be for you.
Here's a quick guide on how to start:
Join seeking and set up a basic profile with no details. Wait a few days and you'll get an offer from the site for 20-50% off the $80 monthly membership fee. Immediately uncheck the automatic renewal box. You shouldn't need more than a month to get a pipeline / harem going. Sign up and hide your profile or you'll get a fuckton of scammer / hooker messages. Set it so others can't see you view their profile or favorite them. The goal is for you do all of the outreach. Don't even worry about your full profile yet. Just add enough that the site will let you do searches and hide your profile.Thanks for sharing your great experience. This is what makes everyone better and why there's a forum for SB world. Hope everyone stays safe and happy mongering!
ElloMuppet
12-23-20, 23:54
https://www.seeking.com/member/1e01eded-e91e-49b0-b599-b8ff17bfd71f
Has anybody seen her or have any intel on her. There is a profile under avivababyyy888 that basically has the same bio and the pictures look like it's the same girl.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1e01eded-e91e-49b0-b599-b8ff17bfd71f
Has anybody seen her or have any intel on her. There is a profile under avivababyyy888 that basically has the same bio and the pictures look like it's the same girl.She contacted me under her older profile. I did not meet with her. IIRC her ask was 3 and she was not interested in any type of meet and greet, wanted to come over immediately.
HardWoodsman
12-24-20, 15:44
https://www.seeking.com/member/1e01eded-e91e-49b0-b599-b8ff17bfd71f
Has anybody seen her or have any intel on her. There is a profile under avivababyyy888 that basically has the same bio and the pictures look like it's the same girl.They are the same girl. She's been at this for a while. She starts messaging people when money gets short. Wears a ton of makeup to cover some acne scaring and she is a smoker but it is her in the pics and her body is rocking. She will get straight to it and will want to be out the door as soon as possible. Not a SB experience at all but if you want to fill up a 22 year old former gymnast send her a message. She has a 19 year old sister that she'll does doubles with too. I don't have the link to her profile but it's Rose or Ruby something. I would not be surprise if management was involved.
https://www.seeking.com/member/1e01eded-e91e-49b0-b599-b8ff17bfd71f
Has anybody seen her or have any intel on her. There is a profile under avivababyyy888 that basically has the same bio and the pictures look like it's the same girl.I saw her long time back and it was just as Hardwoodsman described. The sex was actually really good, she was easy to get along with and had an incredibly tight body. Also saw her at a reasonable price. But she had a very heavy smoke smell and was out the door in a flash.
What I don't get about her is that if she put little more effort into it, she could possibly be a great catch.
Lex: https://www.seeking.com/member/3e89d0a5-7e11-4abe-a4b2-37c42d8be1e6.
We've been talking on / off for the past few days about meeting up sometime in January. Apparently, she's currently located overseas for the holidays but plans on being back in MSP next month. Doesn't sound like a scam; says she's been doing this for a few years and has had many successful arrangements. Says she's flexible with many types of arrangements, but prefers PPM $350. Hosts at her single apartment, has many toys, and is comfortable with all 3 holes and barebacking. Should I pursue her?
NerdyGuy12
12-28-20, 09:55
She's legit and sexy. I met her at her place in Dinkytown. Can confirm all 3 holes and bareback. She literally has a sex shrine of toys in her closet and a stripper pole in her living room LOL. We agreed to 300 I believe and I tipped her up to a total of 350 because we hung out for like 3 hours.
Lex: https://www.seeking.com/member/3e89d0a5-7e11-4abe-a4b2-37c42d8be1e6.
We've been talking on / off for the past few days about meeting up sometime in January. Apparently, she's currently located overseas for the holidays but plans on being back in MSP next month. Doesn't sound like a scam; says she's been doing this for a few years and has had many successful arrangements. Says she's flexible with many types of arrangements, but prefers PPM $350. Hosts at her single apartment, has many toys, and is comfortable with all 3 holes and barebacking. Should I pursue her?
She contacted me under her older profile. I did not meet with her. IIRC her ask was 3 and she was not interested in any type of meet and greet, wanted to come over immediately.Check out my post #479 in MSP Escort Reports.
This one is downright abusive.
I chatted with her off a SD website.
She was rude, abusive and unprofessional.
A few days later, another woman, started chatting with me. And she sent me the same pictures as Aviva.
Turns out she is Aviva's Twin sister. So there are 2 abusive sisters out there looking for Rich Sugar Daddies: Or so they claim.
Avoid, unless you are looking for rude, money sucks.
She's legit and sexy. I met her at her place in Dinkytown. Can confirm all 3 holes and bareback. She literally has a sex shrine of toys in her closet and a stripper pole in her living room LOL. We agreed to 300 I believe and I tipped her up to a total of 350 because we hung out for like 3 hours.Sounds like this is old SA Screen Name: ArmyBrat from Posts #282,290 and 324. Can anyone confirm she is still legit, and available to meet?
NerdyGuy12
12-31-20, 08:41
Yes, that's Armybrat. She's legit, but I haven't seen her recently. She did say that she lived abroad a lot growing up (armybrat) and was planning to go visit over the holidays, so Jason's comments check out.
Sounds like this is old SA Screen Name: ArmyBrat from Posts #282,290 and 324. Can anyone confirm she is still legit, and available to meet?
HardWoodsman
01-03-21, 17:13
She's a dancer hustling while the clubs are closed. Doesn't meet for under 750 a week or 3 K a month. I passed. Dancers make for the worst SBs in my experience.
Decadentme
01-03-21, 18:15
Wow. This one sounds amazing. Too bad her profile is no longer active.
I met her for coffee in the North Loop. The pictures she sent were current and accurate; she's a solid 8. My only knock is excessive makeup; her whole face was covered, which I don't care for.
We shared an enjoyable, direct conversation over our beverages for about a half hour before agreeing to move on to a downtown hotel. She claimed she had to run home first so our start was delayed a bit, but nothing objectionable.
Once in the room, it was clear she knew why we were there. If you're into slender, fit, A-cup women, she fits the bill. No tattoos. Even picky me was pleased with what I saw.
In keeping with strategies we've discussed on this board, I did not bring up protection prior to our encounter. After warming each other up with oral, I attempted to mount her bareback but she stopped me just as I was entering her, asking whether I used protection. I stated that I do not, and we went back to foreplay for a while.
After verbally working her for a while, she agreed to bareback but indicated she was not on birth control so I pulled out to finish. As we left, she said that she wanted to use protection going forward; on that basis, I will not repeat.
She reportedly lives with her "best friend". I clarified that this best friend is female but based on her Facebook profile, there's a guy in the picture. This may help explain why she wants to use protection; I suspect she's doing this on the side without his knowledge.
Overall, she's a pleasant, attractive and somewhat naive girl who likely won't give you any trouble. If you're willing to wrap it, she's a good find. Notably, she did not ask for any particular amount before we met; she left it my discretion based on how well I felt she performed. I slipped 200 in her purse as we got to her car and she later sent me a positive message on Kik.
She's a dancer hustling while the clubs are closed. Doesn't meet for under 750 a week or 3 K a month. I passed. Dancers make for the worst SBs in my experience.Definitely agree with that, just seems to be a different mentality, Although I have meet a couple that danced part time that were okay. I recently renewed my SA membership and am working a few decent ones, but man what a shit show it has become. Ridiculous allowance expectations, asking for money upfront, wanting online only and those that are complete scammers.
Also, have little dilemma with my long time girl. As part of our arrangement, I occasionally help her out with trips where she will go somewhere with her sister or visit friends. She thinks it cost me a lot of money, but I am generally only spending few hundred or using airline miles. Issue is that I have booked her a place to stay several times lately and the has been bring her loser boyfriend, who she refers to as her cousin. I guess she doesn't realize I know how to find things on social media LOL. Anyway, I kind of accepted that last time, since I am married and we don't have an exclusive arrangement (I see other girls from SA as well).
She is on a trip this week and she had asked if I would also help her out some with the rental car if she got one in addition to the room (I got her a 2 br Marriott timeshare in Orlando for $350 for the week). I didn't really commit on way or the other on the car and wasn't sure if the boyfriend was going or just here sister. Anyway I see him posting pictures on social media so he is obviously on the trip. She has also asked me today if I would chip in a few hundred for the car.
I have been seeing her for over two years and we always have a good time and the sex as only gotten better as we have went along. But this rental car thing is really bothering me. Why can't her broke ass loser boyfriend put his bong down and get a job to pay for the rental car when he gets to stay in a room I paid for for free.
Just not sure if it worth making a big deal about it since we have a had a very good thing. Given the current state of what I am finding on SA, I may have hard time replacing her. We get along very well and she is very hot and a great fuck.
Decadentme
01-03-21, 19:50
Seems like she could be a fantastic anger fuck!
https://www.seeking.com/member/a4ba804d-92c3-4efa-b39d-3a245bc025af
Mega-hot girl who displays raging GPS. She lost it after I refused to comp the lunch M&G we'd scheduled for today; see the attached text exchange for details. After I blocked her initial number, she continued her tirade from a different number until I played an ace in the hole.
Spaniard21
01-04-21, 11:04
Definitely agree with that, just seems to be a different mentality, Although I have meet a couple that danced part time that were okay. I recently renewed my SA membership and am working a few decent ones, but man what a shit show it has become. Ridiculous allowance expectations, asking for money upfront, wanting online only and those that are complete scammers.
Also, have little dilemma with my long time girl. As part of our arrangement, I occasionally help her out with trips where she will go somewhere with her sister or visit friends. She thinks it cost me a lot of money, but I am generally only spending few hundred or using airline miles. Issue is that I have booked her a place to stay several times lately and the has been bring her loser boyfriend, who she refers to as her cousin. I guess she doesn't realize I know how to find things on social media LOL. Anyway, I kind of accepted that last time, since I am married and we don't have an exclusive arrangement (I see other girls from SA as well).
She is on a trip this week and she had asked if I would also help her out some with the rental car if she got one in addition to the room (I got her a 2 br Marriott timeshare in Orlando for $350 for the week). I didn't really commit on way or the other on the car and wasn't sure if the boyfriend was going or just here sister. Anyway I see him posting pictures on social media so he is obviously on the trip. She has also asked me today if I would chip in a few hundred for the car.
I have been seeing her for over two years and we always have a good time and the sex as only gotten better as we have went along. But this rental car thing is really bothering me. Why can't her broke ass loser boyfriend put his bong down and get a job to pay for the rental car when he gets to stay in a room I paid for for free.
Just not sure if it worth making a big deal about it since we have a had a very good thing. Given the current state of what I am finding on SA, I may have hard time replacing her. We get along very well and she is very hot and a great fuck.The car rental mess would really irk me. However, I understand the dilemma, the current situation in the site is disappointing. Good luck.
WiseTraveler
01-05-21, 13:56
Definitely agree with that, just seems to be a different mentality, Although I have meet a couple that danced part time that were okay. I recently renewed my SA membership and am working a few decent ones, but man what a shit show it has become. Ridiculous allowance expectations, asking for money upfront, wanting online only and those that are complete scammers.
Also, have little dilemma with my long time girl. As part of our arrangement, I occasionally help her out with trips where she will go somewhere with her sister or visit friends. She thinks it cost me a lot of money, but I am generally only spending few hundred or using airline miles. Issue is that I have booked her a place to stay several times lately and the has been bring her loser boyfriend, who she refers to as her cousin. I guess she doesn't realize I know how to find things on social media LOL. Anyway, I kind of accepted that last time, since I am married and we don't have an exclusive arrangement (I see other girls from SA as well).
She is on a trip this week and she had asked if I would also help her out some with the rental car if she got one in addition to the room (I got her a 2 br Marriott timeshare in Orlando for $350 for the week). I didn't really commit on way or the other on the car and wasn't sure if the boyfriend was going or just here sister. Anyway I see him posting pictures on social media so he is obviously on the trip. She has also asked me today if I would chip in a few hundred for the car.
I have been seeing her for over two years and we always have a good time and the sex as only gotten better as we have went along. But this rental car thing is really bothering me. Why can't her broke ass loser boyfriend put his bong down and get a job to pay for the rental car when he gets to stay in a room I paid for for free.
Just not sure if it worth making a big deal about it since we have a had a very good thing. Given the current state of what I am finding on SA, I may have hard time replacing her. We get along very well and she is very hot and a great fuck.Re: car rental. It would bother me as well but why ruin a good thing? Just chalk it up to the weirdness of the sugar bowl. The only reason you know is you went looking for 'the truth'. Still, I get your reaction.
Re: car rental. It would bother me as well but why ruin a good thing? Just chalk it up to the weirdness of the sugar bowl. The only reason you know is you went looking for 'the truth'. Still, I get your reaction.Yes, that is what I was thinking as well. I am sure he probably benefits from the money I give her when we meet as well, just isn't so obvious as this.
I am fairly certain that he doesn't know about me. So, wondering how she explains to him who is paying for the room.
Also, I have some intel in some new ladies from SA that I will post when I have time. Unfortunately most of it is bad with outrageous allowance requirements and upfront money requests. Also, working on a few good possibilities, but not sure where they will go yet.
They are the same girl. She's been at this for a while. She starts messaging people when money gets short. Wears a ton of makeup to cover some acne scaring and she is a smoker but it is her in the pics and her body is rocking. She will get straight to it and will want to be out the door as soon as possible. Not a SB experience at all but if you want to fill up a 22 year old former gymnast send her a message. She has a 19 year old sister that she'll does doubles with too. I don't have the link to her profile but it's Rose or Ruby something. I would not be surprise if management was involved.I've only met the younger sister. Couldn't find her profile today but yes, her screen name is usually Rose, Rosy or Ruby something. She's a couple inches taller and a bit thinner than her older sis and while she doesn't show her mug, their faces are strikingly similar. Sounds like both sisters have a similar style in the bedroom; Rose / Rosy / Ruby could be a gem with a better attitude, more effort and no smoke. I did bareback her but would never repeat or recommend her; seniors may PM me for details.
Ran across this video serious on TicTok given instructions how to get money from guys pretending you will meet them at some point. I think this is much more prevalent than before. Just a reminder to never send money before meeting, not even $10 for gas money. She contacts bunch of men hoping she can get a couple that will send he money, makes about $300 per day.
https://vm.tiktok.com/ZMJvF9KuQ/
PhillipPlein
02-16-21, 01:45
Just dropping in to provide some progress since I've joined the sugaring scene a couple months ago. Things have been pretty hit or miss for the most part, but when it's a hit it's a homerun. I've been able to nail some 9/10 women on that site since I've started, but for the most part the receptive one's are in the 6-7 appearance range. Loads of useful info and tips that I've been able to use on this site thanks to a bunch of local contributors so if you're reading this, comb through the entire thread as it's helped me a ton! Curious to know how everyone's sugaring experience on SA has been lately? The amount of new women on their seems to be slowing down.
Just dropping in to provide some progress since I've joined the sugaring scene a couple months ago. Things have been pretty hit or miss for the most part, but when it's a hit it's a homerun. I've been able to nail some 9/10 women on that site since I've started, but for the most part the receptive one's are in the 6-7 appearance range. Loads of useful info and tips that I've been able to use on this site thanks to a bunch of local contributors so if you're reading this, comb through the entire thread as it's helped me a ton! Curious to know how everyone's sugaring experience on SA has been lately? The amount of new women on their seems to be slowing down.Would you mind sharing what you have been giving for allowance?
PhillipPlein
02-22-21, 12:40
Would you mind sharing what you have been giving for allowance?I don't do allowance only PPM. The price is between $150-300 per meet. Personally, I think that's a great price point we should also strive to push towards. Far too many SBs are expecting $500 - $1000 per meet which is wishful thinking IMO.
I am new to the forum but experienced with sugaring. Can anyone recommend an Asian sugar baby that is currently on Seeking? Or perhaps have an interesting story about why we should avoid?
I don't do allowance only PPM. The price is between $150-300 per meet. Personally, I think that's a great price point we should also strive to push towards. Far too many SBs are expecting $500 - $1000 per meet which is wishful thinking IMO.You're doing well cost-wise in my opinion. My standard opens are 300 for 8's, 400 for 9's, and 500 for 10's (pro model level), and I've usually been successful. Perhaps I should dial down a bit.
How much time are you getting on your dates?
WiseTraveler
02-25-21, 12:25
You're doing well cost-wise in my opinion. My standard opens are 300 for 8's, 400 for 9's, and 500 for 10's (pro model level), and I've usually been successful. Perhaps I should dial down a bit.
How much time are you getting on your dates?Agree on range. I don't try to lowball since it can poison the arrangement but I also pass if they lead with something ridiculous. Once wanted $800 PPM but 'not sex every time. Just pay that for my company and occasional texting' - I told her to stop watching misleading TikTok videos and blocked her.
For BBWs or high 6/ low 7's I offer $150 with a take it or leave it mentality. I might go to $200 if they can host. For true 7's, $200,8's $300 though an 8 to me might include a newbie 7 who is my type and where there's chemistry. I've never even tried with 9's or 10's since there's rarely any chemistry. They want the Mr. Grey / travel / arm candy treatment and I'm basically offering a booty call / affair arrangement.
I also explain I'm not really looking to go multiple rounds or would rarely meet for more than two hours as I simply won't have the time or freedom to do so.
PhillipPlein
02-25-21, 15:32
You're doing well cost-wise in my opinion. My standard opens are 300 for 8's, 400 for 9's, and 500 for 10's (pro model level), and I've usually been successful. Perhaps I should dial down a bit.
How much time are you getting on your dates?It varies, but at a minimum 1-2 hours. I've had a few that slept overnight since they lived a couple hours away so we went multiple rounds. So it entirely depends on logistics sometimes. Part of it also depends on their level of attraction to you, so some are willing to take less if you attractive to them.
PhillipPlein
02-25-21, 15:43
I am new to the forum but experienced with sugaring. Can anyone recommend an Asian sugar baby that is currently on Seeking? Or perhaps have an interesting story about why we should avoid?I've had little to no success with Asian sugar baby's. First and foremost the options are pretty limited in the area and I believe most are a bit too timid and conservative to actually engage in an arrangement.
Agree on range. I don't try to lowball since it can poison the arrangement but I also pass if they lead with something ridiculous. Once wanted $800 PPM but 'not sex every time. Just pay that for my company and occasional texting' - I told her to stop watching misleading TikTok videos and blocked her.
For BBWs or high 6/ low 7's I offer $150 with a take it or leave it mentality. I might go to $200 if they can host. For true 7's, $200,8's $300 though an 8 to me might include a newbie 7 who is my type and where there's chemistry. I've never even tried with 9's or 10's since there's rarely any chemistry. They want the Mr. Grey / travel / arm candy treatment and I'm basically offering a booty call / affair arrangement.
I also explain I'm not really looking to go multiple rounds or would rarely meet for more than two hours as I simply won't have the time or freedom to do so.800 is an uncannily common ask among top-shelf locals, and the only two true 10's I've bagged thus far opened there. One accepted my counter of 500 after a few days and we've been going for over a year. The other I met at 650 and we fizzled after a couple dates (see my report on "2TheVictoria" for more detail -- she's still on SA).
8's are usually as low as I'll go, but I consider 7's with exceptional qualities (markedly thin or tall, varsity athlete, advanced degree, tough major, etc.) that (likewise) lead to better chemistry.
WiseTraveler
02-26-21, 13:07
You're doing well cost-wise in my opinion. My standard opens are 300 for 8's, 400 for 9's, and 500 for 10's (pro model level), and I've usually been successful. Perhaps I should dial down a bit.
How much time are you getting on your dates?
800 is an uncannily common ask among top-shelf locals, and the only two true 10's I've bagged thus far opened there. One accepted my counter of 500 after a few days and we've been going for over a year. The other I met at 650 and we fizzled after a couple dates (see my report on "2TheVictoria" for more detail -- she's still on SA).
8's are usually as low as I'll go, but I consider 7's with exceptional qualities (markedly thin or tall, varsity athlete, advanced degree, tough major, etc.) that (likewise) lead to better chemistry.It really is about 'finding your people / type' + as at PhillipPlein noted, the level of mutual attraction. I found a SB when traveling that would be a 7 for some but was a 9 to me. Perfect skin, super cute, great smile, perfect breasts, clean, a little baby fat, loved to kiss, incredibly responsive sexually, and agreed to $200. The funny thing was we had chatted on the SB site and exchanged numbers but it had been so long I couldn't go back to see the original chat. I led with $100-150 since I thought she was a different SB. A BBW with a cute face. I was floored when this one opened the door and I realized I had them mixed up. I would have done $300 without blinking.
I'm fortunate that I'm attracted to all most types except tall, athletic, model, fake boob, and arm candy types. It feels like realizing the fantasy of getting to bang the cute barista, lady in the grocery checkout line, or still attractive yummy mummy down the street.
I've had little to no success with Asian sugar baby's. First and foremost the options are pretty limited in the area and I believe most are a bit too timid and conservative to actually engage in an arrangement.My experience has been that the response rate from Asian babies on Seeking is about the same as other ethnicities. I had a two arrangements with Asian college students that were not citizens and don't quality for financial aid. Turned out to be the most interesting and memorable arrangements I have had.
I have not been premium on SA for several months because its time consuming to find a baby that is legit and serious about meeting.
https://www.seeking.com/member/c6e66879-2e21-4749-bdda-dc4dbf041781
Cute 18 why / o but, "I am just looking for someone to talk to and go on dates with. I am not looking for intimacy right now. I would like a weekly allowance before dates via Venmo. ".
https://www.seeking.com/member/e57413a6-9a6e-4f0b-85d0-478070b8a6d4
"My ideal arrangement is online right now with incentives. " I restated my need for in-person meets, and she pulled the tired ol' pandemic card. I countered that I'm fully vaccinated with the card to prove it, but no budge.
I'm more than tired of SBs milking COVID for online arrangements and look forward to the day when the excuse will be passé.
I am fine with some SB seekign this arrangement if they put it on the header and stop wasting my time.
I can flag or bypass them on the first pass. Other have it in their description which makes it a pain.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e57413a6-9a6e-4f0b-85d0-478070b8a6d4
"My ideal arrangement is online right now with incentives. " I restated my need for in-person meets, and she pulled the tired ol' pandemic card. I countered that I'm fully vaccinated with the card to prove it, but no budge.
I'm more than tired of SBs milking COVID for online arrangements and look forward to the day when the excuse will be pass.
This one wants to meet https://www.seeking.com/member/f748eab4-ded0-4071-9727-540f647aab1a#.
Straight up wants 6 to meet up with option of 10 for anal.
Any SD seen this one?
Made the mistake of dropping our agreed amount on the dresser.
Pulled a fast on me. Lives with BF somewhere on Lowry in St. Paul.
This one wants to meet https://www.seeking.com/member/f748eab4-ded0-4071-9727-540f647aab1a#.
Straight up wants 6 to meet up with option of 10 for anal.
Any SD seen this one?
https://www.seeking.com/member/c6e66879-2e21-4749-bdda-dc4dbf041781
Cute 18 why / o but, "I am just looking for someone to talk to and go on dates with. I am not looking for intimacy right now. I would like a weekly allowance before dates via Venmo. ".These girls are all over SA. And good for them. Onlyfans exists for a reason too. If a dumb, thirsty guy wants to do pay for what can be had for free, fine. Throw them to the cub. Quickly.
WiseTraveler
03-10-21, 12:08
These girls are all over SA. And good for them. Onlyfans exists for a reason too. If a dumb, thirsty guy wants to do pay for what can be had for free, fine. Throw them to the cub. Quickly.I filter out platonic tags and block those who are de facto platonic (Just want to chat, not looking for anything sexual) so they don't clutter my search. Makes a big difference.
PhillipPlein
03-11-21, 01:08
Has anyone contacted or seen this girl? Seems like she has two profiles on the site so seems a little suspect, but I did get her number and she seems real.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0762a423-eec5-4617-b9ea-0149501aa7fc
Has anyone contacted or seen this girl? Seems like she has two profiles on the site so seems a little suspect, but I did get her number and she seems real.
https://www.seeking.com/member/0762a423-eec5-4617-b9ea-0149501aa7fcI've seen her under a different profile over the past few months; not sure offhand if it's still active. Her appearance is right on the bubble for me, so I haven't reached out. (Her last pic pulls her down IMO.) Keep us posted.
RandMcNasty
03-13-21, 10:24
I've seen her under a different profile over the past few months; not sure offhand if it's still active. Her appearance is right on the bubble for me, so I haven't reached out. (Her last pic pulls her down IMO.) Keep us posted.Duck face aside, I'm more turned off by:
"but I want to pressure a career in avation! ".
https://www.seeking.com/member/61b7c028-84a5-47bc-b0f7-9da68d99e648
Save your time if (like me) you're looking for a local. On the 16th message, she reported that she's actually near Mankato, not in Minneapolis as her profile states.
ChrisHansen92
03-14-21, 00:26
That is usually in my opening message. Always when they are just listing the state as a location. "What area of town are you located"? Saves time.
https://www.seeking.com/member/61b7c028-84a5-47bc-b0f7-9da68d99e648
Save your time if (like me) you're looking for a local. On the 16th message, she reported that she's actually near Mankato, not in Minneapolis as her profile states.
What a pain to try to register again. I believe Seeking has a way of identifying the hardware you were using at the time you got banned. I got banned on my desktop PC and I don't like browsing the site on my Iphone. So I will need to run a virtual machine on my desktop PC so it looks like a different PC. And will probably need to buy a prepaid debit card. All for the joy of spending plenty of time to find a baby that actually wants to meet. Has anyone found an easier way to get back on the site after being banned?
I'm once again on the hunt. To save you some time, here are a few to avoid in my experience:
College_girl_123.
https://www.seeking.com/member/e689678f-7b58-47c9-938c-f25714200edd
Actually a high school senior, she says she won't meet due to the pandemic (yawn), even with fully vaccinated guys.
Brunettebaby87.
https://www.seeking.com/member/f8f95ccd-e14a-4af0-8f7e-d3c8e4150b66
Asked if I'd be interested in an arrangement with "two college girls". Rejected as I don't entertain offers from duos.
Xoxo2021.
https://www.seeking.com/member/b33d11be-7827-47e1-9be2-a7acedc72330
Claims she has a long-distance BF and doesn't want anything physical.
LolaLovesLingerie.
https://www.seeking.com/member/aaa195d6-0241-4555-b186-075c7fe9234a
Felt pretty confident about this one, but she asked for a rain check about an hour before our lunch date, claiming her out-of-town brother "just texted" and said he was here. Blew her off as I reject all last-minute first-date rain check requests. Too bad as she's unshaven, which I'm into.
Delaneydvn
https://www.seeking.com/member/960392e1-e0e3-4111-8625-38453729877d
Stood me up for a coffee date we'd set two days before. Claimed she'd been locked out of her account but (magically) got back in 20 minutes after our date time, *and* wasn't feeling well. Guessing she forgot. Her SA profile claims check out based on social media. She apparently has a boyfriend.
I'll post more as they come in.
https://www.seeking.com/member/42414353-6ae2-4994-b6e9-f1284430c2b6
Super sporadic communication with this one, extending over months. Came out of the blue today claiming she just saw my previous message (a lie) and wanted to meet for dinner tonight. I declined but said I was down for lunch today or tomorrow. She chose today. I proposed a time and place, but no reply in 20 minutes. (We were only a couple hours out and the convo was moving quickly up to that point.) I then asked her to let me know if the plan was a go as I had an "alternate plan" -- another SB -- lined up a half hour later, whom I would've blown off for Sophia. She said to go with my alternative plan, and was blocked.
https://www.seeking.com/member/42414353-6ae2-4994-b6e9-f1284430c2b6
Super sporadic communication with this one, extending over months. Came out of the blue today claiming she just saw my previous message (a lie) and wanted to meet for dinner tonight. I declined but said I was down for lunch today or tomorrow. She chose today. I proposed a time and place, but no reply in 20 minutes. (We were only a couple hours out and the convo was moving quickly up to that point.) I then asked her to let me know if the plan was a go as I had an "alternate plan" -- another SB -- lined up a half hour later, whom I would've blown off for Sophia. She said to go with my alternative plan, and was blocked.Thanks for sharing. Its comforting to know I am not the only one that has these kinds of experiences. I mean, the one that said she wanted platonic had fwb on her profile.
I am not premium atm, but here are some that interest me. I am a face guy and I like to see sweetness:
https://www.seeking.com/member/622d9618-d1a0-4013-b268-11846760a600
https://www.seeking.com/member/1f58d2f3-f5ab-42f8-9374-7149092f2aae
https://www.seeking.com/member/ca339386-1e2b-465a-bdd5-2a6127dfeb42
https://www.seeking.com/member/abe4ef8b-aa49-4615-81db-16f2c007f027 got to love red heads!
And I am really into Asian babies. Here are a few I like:
https://www.seeking.com/member/21678bc0-99d9-4cad-a47e-51ddcb7c51fd
https://www.seeking.com/member/e7579e87-750d-4556-b1f3-b8df24a8f1ab
https://www.seeking.com/member/34fda3a1-e89a-423d-9fab-1713013bae94
https://www.seeking.com/member/335737ef-cc65-4ce5-9a2c-3fae29a83888
https://www.seeking.com/member/2dc6fee1-1357-4a31-8ec5-84584f97bf8d
What do you think of my selections?
MileHighFreak
03-16-21, 22:39
Nice! Well done! Interestingly enough, I checked all of those links, and I already had all of them set to hidden! Hahaha.
Nice! Well done! Interestingly enough, I checked all of those links, and I already had all of them set to hidden! Hahaha.What were the main reasons you hid their profiles?
WiseTraveler
03-17-21, 12:33
Kudos to Ano and Rambo (others) for posting intel. Here are general tips for other salt / splenda daddies (if you can drop $2 k+/ month, you can have your pick of SBs. I aim for <$600/ month for 2-3 PPM). My search feed is so much cleaner now that at most I have just 20-25 profiles to review each week (takes 5 minutes) before I my feed just shows SBs who haven't been on in a week or more. Yeah, I use filters but I got tired of seeing the same active SBs who I had no interest in.
Platonic or online only = block. Yeah, they may change their minds but they'd probably set up a new profile in that case and the conversion / success rates are really low.
Duos = block. Twice the $ for 1/4 the fun. Kudos if you have success but it's a bad bet. They usually just want you to fund their partying / shopping / trips to act cute around you and send selfies.
Won't meet due to COVID = hide, review months later and either block or unhide if they changed.
Last-minute cancel = I warn before meeting that I've had so many bad experiences and am sure they have as well so to avoid frustration, the following are really important to me:
* Don't ask for $ in advance just to meet. I'll keep to whatever arrangement we agree to. Asking for $ on short-notice or for emergencies breaks that trust. The answer will be no. If you need emergency $ by SBing, you probably shouldn't be in the bowl. (you may end up relaxing this once trust is built but I make it a hard no the first three months).
* Respect each other's time. If I cancel on you last minute, I'll make it up to you. If you cancel on me, own it. Over the last 1,000 meetings with friends, coworkers, etc. I haven't had anyone just not show up without at least texting before the meetup time so know in advance I won't believe your excuse if you ghost me. Prioritize the meeting and communication or we're not a good fit.
* If you want to end an arrangement, end it. I'll do the same. We're adults. Act like it.
Setting tough guardrails up front and then giving unexpected gifts or a little more money = sploosh.
Edit: I even did a search for 'has the means', 'alpha', 'like I deserve' (and variations of that) and blocked them. Huge difference.
Kudos to Ano and Rambo (others) for posting intel. Here are general tips for other salt / splenda daddies (if you can drop $2 k+/ month, you can have your pick of SBs. I aim for <$600/ month for 2-3 PPM). My search feed is so much cleaner now that at most I have just 20-25 profiles to review each week (takes 5 minutes) before I my feed just shows SBs who haven't been on in a week or more. Yeah, I use filters but I got tired of seeing the same active SBs who I had no interest in.
Platonic or online only = block. Yeah, they may change their minds but they'd probably set up a new profile in that case and the conversion / success rates are really low.I love this post! What did you mean by this? "before I my feed just shows SBs who haven't been on in a week or more" ?
What about the phrase "I know my value. " That one really turns me off.
I have been sugaring for 3 years or so. I need to take wisetravelors advice and screen much harder on the site. A few months ago I had 10 or 15 SB phone numbers I got from Seeking. Their communication was somewhere between poor and radio silence. I didn't meet any of them. A few years ago it seemed much easier to find babies that actually wanted to meet. And I did meet with many. I believe most sugar babies have mental health issues due to their childhood and / or their current situation. While I want to bond to their personality along with the sex, I feel hurt when they flake out on me. So perhaps a change in mindset is required. I had a two-year off-and-on arrangement with a sugar baby. I helped her substantially with college tuition. Way beyond what a normal arrangement would entail. Well, when she graduated she went silent on me and didn't even thank me for the help that allowed her to graduate. Now I try not to take it personally because I saw plenty of evidence of her mental health issues that caused her to go silent on people. But still, I paid an emotional price for investing in an unstable baby.
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