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Michael1967
I picked her up in the Denny park scroll area, near Jones Soda company. That would be... 9th and Thomas? Don't have the maps in front of me ATM.
Headsnap:
I too, always see fellow mongers out there, and have often wondered if any of them are contributors on this board. Apparently, Civ2k and I probably cross paths early Sunday morning. At least, we saw the same girls out.
To the lurkers:
You can always tell the newbies by the way they drive in circles. Here's a hint for you newbies: following other mongers in a Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade fashion around the block again and again won't get you ANYWHERE. I make a point not to ride someone's tail more than 2 intersections. Call it common courtesy, you would probably feel nervous if someone else is hanging onto YOUR a$$, esp if you're trying to go for a pickup.
Stay frosty.
John Quakman
12-01-03, 01:24
Went on a little cruise this afternoon and picked up a kinda cute bleached blond named Nicky (Niki, Nikki?)near the AAA. She looked to be be in her twenties and had freckles. Like I said cute and had a stunning bod. Nice rack, probably B/C. Laid back and not pushy and her service was similar and not inspiring. She said she moved out here about 3 years ago from New York. Says she works only in the afternoon till about 8 or 9. Wanted 1$ for 50/50 but took .7. Wasn't cracked out and didn't have that crack ho look about her.
Thing is I just did a search and see reviews on several Nicky's none of which seem to match this girl exactly. Some scary things said about the various spellings. Any info would be of interest.
Battousai, I didn't see the bike pimp but did see her with a guy, maybe at this point he ditched the bike. I saw c-monster Jen walk and it looks like she has one leg shorter than the other--it was a really strange gait. But I find her kind of cute also, and she did give me one of my best bbbj's ever. She got completely down on her knees on the passenger floor and went to town. I bet she could suck a watermellon through a garden hose. But if she's twisting I don't pick her up.
Civ
Sunday Afternoon/Monday Lunch:
On Sunday about 3:00 PM I drove up Aurora from Winona to about 155th. As I was waiting to turn north onto Aurora, I saw a very cute, young, blonde girl with braided pigtails to her breasts, white sweater, blue jeans and a big, like camping size big, backpack standing by the phones at the 7-11. She spoke to two guys coming out of the store and I figured she was on the road and panhandling. However, the second guy stopped for a second then got in his car. She leaned on his driver side door and kept talking. I had to make my turn but did a quick circle around PCC and into the 7-11 parking lot just in time to see her ride away east on Winona. She's certainly a possible.
There was a brownish-blonde haired WSW working a shopping center parking lot. Probably 5'8", thick thighs but not fat. She had the typical cell phone and soft drink with straw. She spent most of her time leaning up against the door of the closed burger place, which I thought was a particularly obvious spot. I made one pass mid-parking lot to assess the situation, another to park for a while to see if LE was in play and finally a close pass to get a look at her. As I went by and turned to look out the passenger window, she gave me a great smile and slowly licked the straw sticking out of the soda container with her tongue. I didn't have the time to stop but she certainly made an impression. I noticed her again today, Monday about noon, in front of the lumberyard way farther south. She has fantastic bright green eyes.
Cheers,
HS
Hello Gentlemen,
Long time hobbyist here that found this site a few months ago and finally decided to quit lurking and join the conversation.
I have noticed lately a very quiet AAA and AMP area in the late evenings, but quitting time rush hour is nice and busy in north Aurora between 145 to 125. Last week Mon. or Tues a very nice looking bsw that was in parking lot in front of Albertsons just got done talking to two men in a maroon sedan that gave me the LE chills so I bailed from the area.
Fri. night I did get to meet an attractive hsw (Melissa ?) on Dexter and John area and we had a nice talk about fs for .80. I would think she was a 7 or more on looks and a 7+ for attitude too. Would like to talk again if finances agree.
Monday Night:
I hooked up with a new girl (for me) tonight. Her name is Michaela (pronounced Mick-cale-ah). She's mid 30's, short curly blonde hair, nice average body (too small up top for you T-man), and very nice. She was bundled up with a 70's British rocker-style cap on. I first saw her heading south on Aurora up north. She was carrying two large white shopping bags and was walking in a determined manner. I passed once facing her and didn't get any kind of look. About 40 minutes later I saw her again still headed south crossing 105th on the east side. I circled back into the Oak Tree lot and grabbed my usual view-front parking spot. She walked right by the car without a look, hung a left into the parking lot, walked right up to my car and jumped right in without a bit of hesitation. No check, no conversation just a big cheerful smile and we were off. I like a true professional sometimes (even though I am partial to amateurs--even the fulltime amateurs as T-Man and Civ2000 have informed me). We drove to may favorite spot about 1 minute away and she asked what, I replied and asked how much and she said whatever. So BBBJTCWS for $.3. Nice slow technique--I actually had to speed her up due a former arranged appointment I need make, both top and bottom exposed to play with and she even had paper towels in her bag for a cleanup. She's newly returned from LA and just getting started. Be nice to her she's a keeper.
Cheers,
HS
Headsnap, did you get a number on Michaela?
Tarl,
Sorry, she said she just moved up from LA and hadn't installed a phone yet. She said she'd giver me her number next time we hook up. I don't give out my number to SWs anymore, it's a little difficult to explain phone calls on my cell at 2:00 AM.
Cheers, HS
6:30ish on Aurora around Burgermaster- Furhat Kelly.
I almost picked her up. She was looking good.
For those of you who don't know, I have yet to partake in the goods, I just like looking.
Lookin for Stuff
12-03-03, 01:06
Hey Fellas
Had the occasion to drive thu White Center around 2:30 pm on Tues. the 2nd.
Drove down the main street saw a cute HSW on the 4 way stop .standing in front of the asain store. On the So. West corner.
Made eye contact and smiled . She was in her early 20's long black hair , thin seemed to be a little light in the top , but was cute.
Cutest I've ever seen in White Center thats for sure!
BE SAFE
LFS
It's been a long time since I last posted.
I was out on Aurora late Sunday afternoon (around 5) and met a BSW near the video store around 140th. Nice bod - we found a spot out of the neighborhood - started at 30 for a CBJ, but she was pretty cool and into it, so I upgraded to 50/50 for another 20. Took her time. Can't remember her name and didn't get her digits.
She did tell me that she preferred days because the money was better (businessmen on the way home, etc) and that a lot of the other ladies felt the same. That might explain why there are a lot of good reports on day sightings.
So, I cruised today from Winona to past 145 for about 1 1/2 hours from 3 until 4:30 and finally, as I was leaving the area, saw two bsw's walking no on Aurora on 145th - one tall and thicker, the other shorter and pretty cute. When I swung around the short cute one was gone, and the taller one was going in the wrong direction. Other than that, the street was dead the entire time.
One for the Books:
Having found this board recently, I was wondering if I could inquire about an amazing event that occurred to me back more than a year and a half ago and see if anyone else has witnessed this.
It was summer and I was making a cruise of one of my standard strolls headed south on Aurora. I was just north of the new donut mega-shop (that was a vacant lot at the time). I was watching the sidewalk area a number of cars ahead of me when I spotted this very likely candidate headed my direction. She was relatively young, short, blonde (might have been a wig since it looked liked a Doris Day pageboy cut) and she was dressed in a very short skirt and tight blouse with black knee boots. Anyhow, I did my standard pre-stop procedure, check mirrors for LE, unlocked my doors and was ready to hit my turn signal when I see a very new silver Lexus pull over in front of me and stop. I drove on by cussing the bastard that sniped me and turned to scowl when I see this very elegantly looking middle class woman in the driver seat. I am totally surprised and confused. I move down a quarter of a block and pull over in front of an auto repair shop and watch in my rear view mirror. The SW is leaning in the passenger window talking and then steps back laughs and then jumps in. They pass me and I pull out and follow. I am now thinking this woman is hooking up her SO with a SW. But a few blocks south the woman turns right into one of those $29.95/night motels. I turn left across Aurora and into a parking lot so I can watch. The woman does what I have done a number of times, parks her car so the office staff can't see it, makes the SW get out of the car and wait by the passenger side and then she goes in the office. She comes out 5 minutes later with a key and they both go into the room. It was all I could do not to go over knock on the door and offer a $1.0 to watch. Anyhow, they are in there for a good 45 minutes and then out they come out and off they both go in the car. I probably should have followed and interviewed the SW after the woman dropped her off but I didn't. It gives me the willies thinking I might run into my SO on the same stroll cruise.
Cheers, HS
I was driving home through Fed Way Tuesday and spotted several SW. There where three HSW walking together wearing very tight pants and highheels. They were very young and had real tight pants on. There was also a BSW in a jumpsuit with a bubble butt. She also looked very young. Daytimes seem to be picking up down south.
11/21/03 I was just passed the tunnel on 99 near the Holiday Inn and decided to take a look around. Got on Dexter and saw a possible WSW. She was wearing a black cocktail dress very stylish glass' and at first I thought she might be heading to work at the hotel restraunt but pulled over anyway to see. She got in the car and off we went. She was new to the business and when I suggested that we do the check she gave me a puzzled look. I showed her and what she showed me was unbeliveable. She slowly slides her dress up to show me a nicely trimmed pussy and freshly shaved legs with no pantyhose. Here is where I screwed up. She said she had a place to go, so off we went. What she really meant is that she knew of a street to go to, which she could not find. I was running late and decided to use the parking lot of a restraunt down by by lake union. Pull in, and she starts on a bad bbbj, but she takes to coaching real well. So now things are cooking and I am starting to think about which position to do this girl in when a car pulls up about four stall from mine. The guy doesent even see us but she freaks all the same. She stops what she is doing and slinks in the seat. He finally leaves but buy now she scared and wants to leave, which I wasn't going to do in my position. I convince her to keep going and shoot on her face. I wanted fs, but had drop her off. Lost 60.00 on that one. She lives with her parents and did not have a cell phone. I told her to meet me later, but I was 2hrs late. Easy come, easy go.
Lookin for Stuff
12-03-03, 23:24
12/03/03
Went out for a drive around 3pm today on Aurora within 5 min. I saw 3 WSW between 125th and 140th , 1 of the girls I remembered from the summer, I haven't seen her in several months. She told me her name was MANDY has a limp, shoulder length blonde hair a little thick but not over wieght. The second was an older gal in her 40's I'd say, short , short hair not much to look at.
The third young gal got picked up quick b4 i got a good look.
Went out again at 6pm saw 1 at phone booth 7/11 nice loking WSW, then down by 90-100th saw the girl that wears the fur hat, I see you call her Kelly, whats the info on her? Then down by 107th saw cute WSW 20's tight jeans, blonde. I have seen her b4 too. Looks to be a good day for the hobbiest.
BE SAFE
LFS
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to capitalize the word "I". To avoid future delays, please refrain from using "i" instead of a capital "I" in future reports. Thanks!
Hey John Quakman,
I also was with Nikki Monday (12/1). Picked her up also at AAA and got the same info (New York, etc.). You are right, she doesn't look like a crack user, but she is. We talked about it and she said she spends about $100 per day on it. (her boyfriend does too) She was nice though.
Tom
Picked up a gal just north of 99 on Aurura Wednesday night. She gave her name as Dizzy, and said she had worked White Center but had moved because the area had gotten hot due to the recent shooting.
Dizzy has shoulder-length black hair, and is Hispanic, I think.
She offered BJ and FS, both covered, for $0.4.
Despite being reasonably good-looking (a 7 on the SW scale), it was not a satisfactory encounter. She is very rushed and rough, and wanted to get done with me as soon as possible.
Also, she freaked at every possible passing car light, with the result that I got some contact, but nothing came to completion.
She may be okay if you got a room with her, and got her to take her time, but she was lousy as a car date.
Lookin for Stuff
12-05-03, 04:04
Fellow Hobbiests,
Got a call from my buddy tonight seems he finally hooked up with LALinda again. He told me he passed her at least 3 times today b4 he remembered it was her. Picked her up near Winnoa and Aurora , 10 pm on 12/04 went for a pleasant drive and chat before settling on a place to take care of a little 1/2-1/2 , again no rush , always askin him if he was enjoying himself, no need to rush .they spent about 1 1/2 together.
He told me, he told her of this web page and asked if she had some digits where the fellas here could get ahold of her. She said she liked the idea and told him if we talk about her here call her LALinda so as not to confuse her with the old Linda.
She gave him some digits for a voice mail any seniors intrested contact me and I'll pass it on gladly.
BE SAFE
LFS
Felt rest less tonight, so decided to go for a drive. Off the freeway into Denny park area, saw what appeared to be a HSW and a WSW one block south of Denny Park. The HSW was discreet, the WSW looked kinda cute, did the obvious smile and beckon. Usually I make a point not to jump at the first bait no matter how tempting - that way I can properly scope the place out first, LE, etc, to make sure I'm not walking into a trap.
Circled around, she was gone. Dang. Circled through belltown and area, then back to Denny Park - and there she was again. After losing a newbie that was tailing me (again - all you lurkers - don't ride someone's tail, that's just rude and makes the game harder for everyone!) she jumped in.
Sure she's cute, but awful attitude. "Go here, I don't want to go far, how much do you got? what's it to ya?" More attitude than a sorority princess, so I kicked her to the curb.
Continued up north to Aurora. On my second loop, came accross a slighty chubby white gal. 26, 5'6, nice supple soft rack, named Beth. Got in, she invited me to her place in the UDistrict area. Okay, this is going to be interesting.
Her phone's disconnected, she's trying to get it hooked back up, so I thought I could help her out by donating $30.00 to her worthy cause. In return I was offered dinner, a drink, a shower, a massage with baby oil, and we played around in multiple positions and various things for a bit. Over an hour later her only request was that I give her a lift back. My goodness.
And you know what the funny thing is? She was the girl that keyed my car a few months back when I first started. Horrible attitude then, I decided I didn't need to drop her back off at the stroll because of the poor job she did, and next think I know, scratch on my new car's door. I recognized her halfway through the drive, she had no idea. Anyway, I was nice, and got some really nice treatment.
It pays to treat these girls nice. My best experience to date was with goth girl at her place. A cheap $5.00 bottle of wine did wonders there.
Be safe out there, folks.
Joint Action
12-05-03, 18:23
Greetings fellow lab techs,
I am a long time “researcher” (1975) and have been satisfied being a lurker on WSG for the past few years but I am seeing a trend not only in Seattle but in my travels to other parts of the world that has me concerned. Apparently too many mongers have way too much money, too little patience and are changing expectations among providers around the world. Gentlemen, look at what the senior members are paying and use that as your guide. This is one of the few free markets left where you can actually negotiate a price and the senior members are giving you inside information (ala Pentagon - Boeing). Rest assured that in 2003 you can get a BJ for .15-.25 and FS for .25-.40 (or less) from a 7, 7, 7 quality provider, if you work at it. Just because she asks for .6 doesn’t mean she won’t take .2. Once she is in your car it is in her best interest to complete the transaction and not be sent packing with no $. If she hasn’t learned that lesson yet start the teaching processes. She will eventually catch on if enough mongers do it. To most SW’s a .2 now is better than standing out in the cold for who knows how long.
A few of my and my fellow tech’s rules follow. Not a complete list but a few suggestions.
1. Anyone can get laid for $$$ but it takes skill to do it for .2 or .3. Learn a new skill.
2. Any sign of attitude and to the curb she goes. No exceptions.
3. If you car date, have more than one parking place in mind. You never know when your favorite spot will suddenly become unavailable.
4. Never go to her spot unless you enjoy the thrill of a 9mm staring at you through your car window. Besides, if she takes you there she probably takes everybody there and it's not a spot unknown to LE for long.
5. Don't dump your napkins and used condoms where you park. Do you think people enjoy seeing that stuff on the ground? You might as well put up a sign that says "car dates done here". Also see #4 above.
6. Show her the agreed amount of $ but only give her half until the job is done. If she doesn't like this policy refer to #2.
7. Never drop her back at Ho Central. She can walk a block or two to get back on the stroll but you don't need to have LE see a known SW get out of your ride.
8. Check your car completely before you go home. You would be surprised what they will leave or will have fallen out of their pockets/purses. Want to explain to your S.O. why you have decided to wear orange lipstick or worse, why you didn't tell her you were a diabetic and needed insulin shots?
9. There are plenty of nice SW's out there who will treat you right if you will do the same for them. Treating them right does not mean breaking the bank. They won't respect you for that and will just look at you as a rich fool. See rule #1. They walk most places that they go so swing by the drive-thru and treat them to dinner. That $5 dinner will earn you a more GFE next time out.
10. If you get ripped off or have a bad experience please share the details here. Yes it is embarrassing (we’ve all had it happen) but we need to make sure that the provider in question does not receive any of our hard earned money.
Thanks to all of you who have taken the time to “research” and post your findings here.
JA
Battousai:
Your last post mentioned a "goth" girl and a $5 bottle of wine. I was wondering if it’s the same "goth" girl I had a date with about 2 years ago. She was 5'7", white, I mean really white skin, black hair and dressed like something out of a vampire movie. She was sitting on a handrail outside the old theater across from the destroyed dome theater near the Hurricane. I cruised her twice and no eye or other contact. Third time I barely slowed the car and she jumped in. From the time she hit the seat she never stopped talking, sort of manic off topic, first thought in her head type of conversation. I had had a couple of drinks so I sort of went with the flow. She had me stop at the liquor store on 6th for "anything I liked". I bought a 5th of George Dickel and we headed to her brownstone apartment nearby. Things got really weird. The manager wanted to keep my driver's license to let me go in. I was pretty freaked out since I am listed in the phone book and figured this guy was either going to call my house or get my number and threaten to call my house unless I unloaded big bucks. But the little head got the best of the big head and on I went. I had about two shots out of the fifth of Dickel and she just about drained the rest while I was there. It was like a acid trip, this woman never stopped talking. We did about four positions and even during the BJ she was mumbling away. I stuck it out, finished my business, left the two or three shots of Dickel, recovered my license and threatened to kill the SOB manager if I ever heard from him again. I saw her a couple of times after that but never stopped. I haven't seen her in over a year of cruising that area. I wonder what happened to her.
Cheers, HS
Joint Action that was an excellent well written post. Perhaps others will learn and take heed to your advice.
Head Snap: The "goth" girl you mention is the same girl Battousai mentions. In my experience, Goth Girl and Carmen have been my personal favorites. Unfortunately I haven't seen either in at least six months.
I haven't been around much lately, but the times I've spun around the Hurricane/Denny Park area I haven't seen much. Not nearly as active as a year ago. You can always find some late at night when the AMP is open, but they like to inflate the price.
Joint Action is also completely right. I've gotten BBBJ for as little as .05, and FS for .20. I make it a personal rule not go above .20 for BJ and .40 for FS. Most times I can get 1/2 and 1/2 for .40.
If you want to pay $$$ for this, call a service or go to the parlors. Keep the SW scene affordable for all.
Thanks, and good luck everyone.
Good report Joint Action. I agree with it 100%. It definately jibes with my experiences out there. Welcome to the board.
Carmen and Goth Girl: I see Carmen out maybe once a month and don't think I've ever seen Goth Girl but would like to. If anyone gets a glimpse of this "fabled" goth chick please report it ASAP.
Thx.
Civ
Michael1967
12-06-03, 19:28
My maximum is $25 for BBJTC (up from $20, which I pay a majority of the time). I won't pay a cent for CBJ. I usually pay $30 to $40 for F/S (never more than $40 and occasionally $25). I only do F/S if the girl is truly hot and clean (with the exception of my Peru trip, maybe 4-5 times this year).
Dyna Ryder
12-07-03, 02:09
Nice sunny afternoon...went trolling on the scoot on Pac Hiway. Saw three BSW around 240th. One walking by herself on the East side of 99, and two walking together on the West side. This was around 3:30ish.
Lookin for Stuf: would appreciate LaLinda's digits.
JointAction, if there were an award for "Best First Post" you would walk away with it.
Your list is as good as I have ever read. Real pros understand those rules. I recall one of my early encounters in which the young lady explained to me why it would be a bad idea to drop her back at "Ho Central". I hadn't thought about it before.
Good work!
T-Man
Cruised Aurora several times yesterday.
Midday - from Winona to 175th. Saw nothing from 11:00 am to 12:30. Nothing again from 3:30-4:30.
After 4:30, things seemed to pick up.
Saw one taller bsw at about 140th, reddish hair, heels. A little thicker than I like.
Saw two up from Krispy Kreme, thinner. Picked up Melissa.
Tiny, bsw, cute - you can grab her butt in one hand. 30 for a bbbjcim, not bad. Didn't talk much. She had an accent, was from West Africa, but had lived in the US most of her life.
After I dropped her off, I saw a wsw, looked cute, with pretty long curly hair walking south past KFC on about 140th.
Would have stopped but I hadn't had time to reload yet.
SeattleCyclist
12-07-03, 15:34
update on "gothgirl". Saw her a few weeks ago crossing the street near the market. She has put on weight so not that recognizable. I recall she once told me that when she is on her
psych meds she gains alot of weight.
sean_double
12-07-03, 16:03
I agree with Seattlecyclist about the "Goth Girl" having gained some weight. I've seen her a couple of times in the last few weeks between 5-5:30pm on the east side of the street around 5th and I believe Virginia St.
I work downtown and ride home with the SO, so I haven't been able to stop and talk to her. Hope this helps.
If you can mentally tune out the alcoholic babble she can be a great lay.
Take Care
Sean
Joint Action
12-07-03, 17:33
Nico, Enigma, Civ and T-Man,
Thanks for the props. I’ll try to be a quality contributor to the group although I don’t play as much as I used to.
Several posters have mentioned “Goth Girl” putting on weight recently and in her case it could be the meds but with most of them it's because they have been in jail for several weeks. Jail to a SW is like a reverse “fat farm” where instead of diet and exercise they get three very high calorie meals a day and sit around exchanging information on how to fleece uninformed and undisciplined mongers. Almost every time I’ve seen an old familiar face who I noticed had put on a few pounds (just like your S.O., you don’t ask if she’s gained weight) and inquired about the absence the usual answer is “jail”. Has anyone else wondered how many miles some of these ladies walk in a week? I have seen some women in their 40’s with absolutely great bodies and they didn’t get it at the gym.
Here is one more to add to my rules of the street.
#11 Don’t pick-up the Ho who steps into traffic, waves her arms or does anything else that would cause embarrassment to the average citizen. These are the ones that piss off even the most tolerant of neighborhoods and cause LE to put pressure on an area. This type of SW needs to stay out until LE comes by and takes them away for a little vacation. There’s usually a good reason why they are being so aggressive and it’s not because they are about to give you the best .20 FS you ever had. Don’t reward the stupid.
JA
Anonymous One
12-08-03, 10:33
All right,
Well I guess apologies are in order for the rest of you fellas. Personally, I don't spend too much time haggling over price and probably end up paying above market price. I never really considered the negative consequences it might have on fellow mongers (my bad), I am just too aware of what the "worth" to me is. Since I'm not out there very often (maybe once a month, or less these days), I'm certain that I'm not affecting the market.
I always go for BJ, never FS. I am willing, and not really unhappy to go .4 for that, especially with a first-timer who gives me a phone number. It keeps them happy, and when they're happy I'm happy. Also, I have found that if you OVER-spend a bit, girls will be willing to introduce you to their friends. Seems counterintuitive, because you would figure they would be disinclined to share the golden goose, but it has happened to me on several occasions.
I always try to establish a long-term relationship with providers. If I can get a number and see them repeatedly over a few months (and I always give them the carrot of introducing them to other fellas in the hobby), then things work out better long-term. Also, I have had times where a girl I've overpaid on earlier sessions gave me some for less if I was short of cash.
I'm not saying to be a sucker, I'm just saying that if I have a real girlfriend, and I have to take her out for a 1.0 dinner to tap that ass, then why would I quibble over paying .4 for someone who will leave the moment I'm done? And I'm also not going to pay .6 for what I could get for .2...but I would pay the .4.
But, like I said, I'll keep in mind how I might be affecting the rates out there. One last thing to add to Joint Action's list - spending .05 at Burgermaster or Burger King to get your girl a hot meal will go so, so incredibly far towards building up goodwill, that it will make you wonder why you ever date a girl who insists on going to Chez Paniche for 1.50 caviar. They are actually thankful that you bought them a cheeseburger! Imagine that, a girl showing gratitude for you buying her a meal. Weird concept.
AnonymousOne
"Customer service is when the hooker licks your balls, too."
Anonymous One
12-08-03, 11:23
Holy smokes boys - I just noticed all the messages in my inbox. Lots of requests for Katie's number. I'm getting back to y'all now, don't want you to think I've been flaky! When you have about 100 email aliases (sound familiar?) you tend to forget to check some every now and then!
AnonymousOne
"Customer service is when the hooker licks your balls, too, which she damn well ought to, since you're paying her .4 and the rest of these cheap-ass, skin-flint mother-effers are paying you half that."
Fellow Researchers,
It would seem that Joint Action and I have been conducting research for about the same period of time. His wisdom is great.
If I may be so bold, I would like to add to his work.
One of JA's suggestions concerned treating your provider to lunch. Great idea! I routinely do the same. This not only helps improve the GFE experience, but also provides an opportunity to ask questions about other providers and LE, and obtain other useful bits of intelligence. You may develop a few longstanding relationships, that may result in credit being offered from time to time. Kindness does in deed make good things happen.
Gaining some understanding of the local street culture can be helpful. Places like the AM/PM hangout can sort of become your hangout as well. I have always gotten to know the clerks and stopped by often enough to purchase coffee or a soft drink so that I am a part of the regular crowd. My goal is to let my face be known and to lessen the notion that I may be an outside threat.
If you have an SO, checking your car after a research session is absolutely neccessary. I would suggest the going to your place to conduct research could be far worse. Just try explaining where a sweater, not belonging to your SO, came from. It is easy to miss something obvious. Also, your guest could be a scout or intelligence analyst for unwanted visitors interested in your new PC or your priceless works of art.
Just incase you might have someone in your vehicle that may be untrustworthy, stash your wallet in the trunk. Keep only the cash you want to spend for the evening and your DL in an easy to reach pocket. If LE stops you, you want to be able to whip out your DL, registration, and insurance without hesitation. This limits somewhat the opportunity for LE to visually examine your vehicle and its contents. As a reminder, in Washington state, make sure both you and your guest stay belted until you have been approached by LE.
Thought of the Day - It occurred to me that for under $100 you can get both state and city retail business licenses to sell condoms part time. What better reason could you have for a case of condoms and a SW in your car. SW's are your customers and you have to go when and where business takes you!
Have a nice day - Hooah
P.S. Addendum to Thought of the Day - Vehicle business expenses could be an added tax bonus.
JA:
Good post, its interesting how most of us develop the same sort of rules through experience. Had I had this board when I started out, I would have avoided a lot of mistakes. One thing I have done is researching the parking spots I use. I, like others, avoid FS car dates, as this is almost impossible to recover from in time to avoid a bust. Somebody suggested getting a room and I agree. A BJ, you zip up, start the car and you're down the road. When I find a good spot, I'll take part of an evening and actually park in the spot alone for a while around the time I expect to be using it. I'll do this sometime five or six times on different nights before I use a spot. It gives you the opportunity to see what goes on. I find that remote areas are actually more dangerous than fairly openly used area. If LE turns into a commercial parking lot and sees a lone car in the shadows they are on it in a heartbeat. I like locations where I can see approaching cars from quite a distance so I can be presentable if anybody shows up. I rotate spots on a fairly routine basis. I almost never use a SW's spot unless I really know her and then I do a couple of passes by before stopping. If I am going to do some serious cruising, I check two or three of my spots to make sure they are in play before I pick anybody up. I've found most SWs will get really agitated if you drag them to more than one or two locations. You're point about not throwing away stuff at a spot is right on. I usually carry paper towels and a plastic bag. I put anything to dispose of in the plastic bag, tie it up and put it in the first available trashcan.
Cheers,
HS
Head snap Yup, that would be the same goth girl. And yeah, when you visit one of those places, you have to surrender your license. It's part of the sign in procedure. I am not too sure what the deal is, maybe it has something to do with low income housing and the amount of crime that's there. It'd be a hard sell trying to prove that sex occured and money changed hands though.
Joint action , I can't agree more with your points. Espcecially the part about going to the girl's spot. Along the same notes, don't repeat the same spot over and over again. You never know when people catch on. I've been rudely interrupted before. Fortunately it wasn't with a 9mm.
Most of the time I figured I'd be nice and drop them back fairly close to the hot zone. I just check my mirrors and make sure I'm not being tailed, and I make sure that the girl has everything so it's just literally a 3 - 5 second stop. Which is why I was so pissed that Crack Monster Jen took a good 3 minutes to get out of my car with her damn leg shaking. Fortunately I had the foresight to drop her in an alley.
Be safe out there.
*SIGH*
You guys are making me reminisce about Goth Girl. A long time ago somebody said she was a pretty good lay if you could ignore the constant alcoholic chatter. Now I hear she's put on some weight.
Mindless chatter, pretty good lay, putting on weight? Are you SURE Goth Girl isn't my ex-wife? Or yours, for that matter? I know we all look for a GFE, but maybe we have an XWE--Ex Wife Experience.
T-Man
Un_Circumcised
12-08-03, 20:48
For any newbies who haven't seen it, check out my Police tactics & john countermeasures essay (http://www.geocities.com/un_csd/legal.html#police). It's more focused on avoiding trouble with LE, but also contains tips about avoiding SW rip-offs.
OuttaPlumb mentioned ho's on both sides of Pacific Hwy S around S 240th, and I want to point out that the east side from S 272nd St to Kent-Des Moines Rd is completely within Kent's jurisdiction (white cop cars), while most of the west side is in Des Moines' jurisdiction (black cop cars). Pick up a good map (like the Thomas Guide street atlases) to see the exact locations of the jurisdictional boundaries. I don't know if the two cities have given each other permission to harass prostitution suspects on either side of the highway, but this could make a difference if you're trying to pick someone up on the Des Moines side and you see Kent LE coming, or vice versa.
Finally managed to make it up to Seattle. Unforteunately came up with some other people so I did not have a chance to cruise. I was had a cold and did not have much time anyways.
I think my new job will have traveling up there a lot so it will give more time to cruise...
Joint Action
12-09-03, 00:35
T-Man, great line about XWE. Been there, done that.
Un_Circ, props to you. Your site is full of great information for those that will take the time to read. Good job.
This afternoon (12/8, 14:30) while heading down E. Pine from Broadway I spotted a tall, slender, late 30’s – early 40’s possible WSW wearing jeans and a light blue parka, between Belmont & Summit. I gave her the smile and she gave me the look so I made three quick right turns and sure enough she was coming at me on the side street. As I approached I again smiled and she gave me the nod. Bingo! Unfortunately, I had a car on my ass (the side streets are very narrow), I really didn’t have time, and I wasn’t really prepared (like I said in my first post I don’t play as much as I used to). Anyone regularly cruise the First Hill area, specifically Union to Denny & Bellevue to Broadway? It used to be a good area to snag semi-pros just hanging out or pros on their way to work on the main strolls. Many of them lived in the area so if you could find a place to park you could usually have a nice, relaxed time at their place. I think I may give this area some attention over the next few months and see what develops.
JA
Michael1967
12-09-03, 18:57
Battousai said:
"Head snap Yup, that would be the same goth girl. And yeah, when you visit one of those places, you have to surrender your license. It's part of the sign in procedure. I am not too sure what the deal is, maybe it has something to do with low income housing and the amount of crime that's there. It'd be a hard sell trying to prove that sex occured and money changed hands though."
If you're talking about the sort of high rise, low-income or welfare housing that is on 1st avenue in Belltown, they take your ID for several reasons (I dated someone that used to live there...). First off, there are alot of single mothers that are trying to avoid abusive boyfriends, etc. (the case of my girlfriend). There is also quite a bit of crime in the building (I have never understood why the poor rob the poor when there are so many rich people around). If anything out of the ordinary happens in the building, they have your ID and information (when I was there several years ago, they wrote down my license number also, sometimes while I stood there, other times after I left. I don't know if they still do that). My girlfriend told me they used the information mainly when there was vandalism (people would constantly spray paint the walls) or someone's apartment was forcefully broken into.
Uncircumsized said:
"OuttaPlumb mentioned ho's on both sides of Pacific Hwy S around S 240th, and I want to point out that the east side from S 272nd St to Kent-Des Moines Rd is completely within Kent's jurisdiction (white cop cars), while most of the west side is in Des Moines' jurisdiction (black cop cars). Pick up a good map (like the Thomas Guide street atlases) to see the exact locations of the jurisdictional boundaries. I don't know if the two cities have given each other permission to harass prostitution suspects on either side of the highway, but this could make a difference if you're trying to pick someone up on the Des Moines side and you see Kent LE coming, or vice versa"
Now that I've dumped my current girlfriend and her lazy children. I'll be moving back to Des Moines in a couple of weeks. In the past, from the many times I've been pulled over what you say seems correct. I must mention that when I used to live in the area, State patrol always seemed to hang out around Kent Des Moines Rd also. They would watch for people cutting through alleys and driveways to avoid traffic. I must say that the Kent cops are definitely meaner and more aggressive than the Des Moines cops I've encountered. Several years back, I picked up a girl at the AM/PM and then went to the Key Bank ATM at Bookworld to get cash (for her to borrow of course). Two cops came racing in behind me and started asking questions. They saw me pick her up and wanted to know why I suddenly needed to go to the ATM. Another time I got pulled over at Bookworld and the cop would not tell me why he pulled me over, took my license, sat in his car for about 10 minutes, came back handed me my license and said "have a nice day". He could of had the decency to invent a reason for pulling me over. Des Moines cops have always been pleasant, even when I had obviously broken the law and have never given me a ticket.
Tube Steak
12-09-03, 19:34
New to the forum, but glad to find it. Long-time Seattle monger who's moved "up north". Reading the posts I too met "goth girl" once last year. In front of the UA theater -since gone. She was too wacky for me. I had to let her go before negotiations were complete.
I used to get pretty good service from a SP whose hangout was east of Eastlake troll. I can't remember her name, but she always wore these ridiculuos outfits, "school girl" etc. and had skinny legs. She proclaimed herself the BJ queen, and she was. Anyone seen her lately?
Joint Action
12-09-03, 20:39
Head Snap, good tips on the fine art of parking.
Hooah, good advice on street culture and intelligence gathering, these ladies are extremely street wise and a wealth of information. How about adding adult toys to your business license and then you could have a real party.
I don’t want anyone to think that I was singling out all guys who pay higher prices than I would pay. If you only get out once a month and only have an hour to score your shopping criteria will be different than someone who can get out several times a week for several hours at a time. Just understand than an asking price of .6 is just that, an asking price. You are free to negotiate down from there. You are also free to tip for good service, extra services, more time or any other added nicety. I also understand that it is easier for me to get .20 FS in my ’85 P.O.S. than it is in a new Lexus. Those of us who pay less for more would be doing this forum a disservice if we did not publish what we pay and try to keep the market free and price competitive.
JA
Speaking of of Fed Way I picked up a very cute BSW in a short skirt and boots. She said she was twenty years old. She is slim with b-cups and real nice legs. She also has a smooth runway. She says she does it all. You have to haggle a bit with her to come to a resonable price. She gave me a contact number. It is a pay as you cell phone, so it probably does not have minutes. Next time I see here I am going to see how much she is really willing to do.
Well gents I lost my SW cherry last night. It's been a rough week at work so far (I just started a new position) and I needed some release. I saw that chubby tall WSW on Aurora and attempted to pick her up but she was chatting on a cellphone and probably missed my pull up and park a quarter block a head of her path. (Anyone got any info on her? She's been out alot lately And I do like the bigger ladies too)
So I have to say this... It can only get better from here.
I picked up Linda. Dark hair, old, near Winona. She tried to get me to pay 4.0 for a bbbj but I told her I only had 2.0. She relented. Was rushed and not very good. It was also not a red letter day for me stamina-wise either. I think the whole experience was between 15-20 minutes.
I took a piss when I got home and my business was covered in sparkles which made me laugh.
Keep on keeping on.
Joint Action,
Your sighting on Pine brought back some great memories of that area. It must have been the mid to late 80's that area around Pike and Belmont hopped. Lots of girls. I remember seeing one who was standing in front of that little store on Belmont and Pike wearing only a bathing suit and high heels. She was a hottie too. That used to be a good track. You used to be able to go up Yesler from 23rd to Broadway, and then down Broadway to Pike and then down Pike to the Freeway. Lots of ladies. It finally died out in the early 90's, I think.
WellHungGuy
12-10-03, 03:07
One reason NOT to use an escort service or anything else that takes down your contact information...
11pm news on King5 TV tonight. Police bust mother/daughter pair running "Garden of Eden" and nab client book with 150 names. Police may contact the names in book, etc. How'd you like to be on the receiving end of that call/contact?...
I was reading on another discussion board that it might just be a case of the cops blowing smoke up people's asses. GOE is supposingly fairly experienced about this sort of thing, I'm pretty sure after the fiasco with Heidi Fleiss the smart ones know to not keep records.
Chances are, it's a psychological warfare ploy. Make a big hoola about it, to make people think twice about seeing escorts. If they bust a drug dealer, do you think they'd broadcast it over Channel 9 news and call up everyone in the dealer's cell phone? What a crock of sh!t.
Now I understand why there are people who put "self destruct" codes on their computers. Or storing data off shores.
Sh*t like this pisses me off though. I can understand rounding up street walkers to present a cleaner image, but for f*ck's sake, these guys are discreet enough, don't cause trouble for the neighboorhood, why go out of trouble to bust them? It's one thing if a cop sneaks up on someone screwing in a car, at least that's public. And to think that they paid a police informant too. What the hell did he do, go screw one of the girls then report back to HQ?
Fuckin' waste of tax payer's money. Get off your donut inhalin' asses and go after murderers and drug dealers and quit shovin' your right wing Christian morals down everyone's throat and behind everyone's door. Or are the cops too chicken to do that because the murderers and drug dealers could be packin'?
Joint Action
12-10-03, 08:19
I am so relieved that GOE got busted yesterday. I can’t tell you how many sleepless nights I have spent worrying about those high priced hookers and their white collar clientele and how much trouble they were making for everyone. Why I’ll bet we see a double digit drop in our local crime rate now that this band of hard core hoodlums has been taken off the streets. Assaults, burglaries, car thefts, drug dealing, rapes, robberies and murder are no longer to be feared because of this wonderful use of LE resources. Just a tip for LE, the crack you should be worried about is not between a woman’s legs but in a street punk’s pocket.
JA
WellHungGuy
12-10-03, 12:17
Battousai, in the late 90's I actually called one of these high-end places since I was feeling rich on stock options... They wanted my name, work number, and said they would call me at that number and ask for me by name. After that they promised to destroy my complete details. I told them to shove it...
I also hope that LE would have better things to pursue than this, but it's possible that "Garden of Eden" pulled a Heidi Fleiss (spelling?) and did keep more details than desired in their list of contacts. There is nothing to stop LE from taking half a day and cold-calling through the list - either to cause embarrassment or find someone who's willing to act as a witness in court to protect their privacy.
In general I am not confident that most of these gals are smart enough to only keep essential contact details or to keep none at all.
So we'll see where this one lands...
Tyler Durden
12-10-03, 12:41
Dudes,
Trust no one. Remember the rules. Don't talk about sex club!
Seriously, though, who are we kidding. Records are kept. Oh, not all the time and not all the agencies or independent ladies perhaps, but some do. For various reasons - likes/dislikes of their clients, birthdays, kinks, contact info, etc.
I mean, how can they expect to remember all the details? I can barely remember the b'days of my own kids let alone scores of clients!
There are risks in this hobby as many of us are aware. Agencies and indy's need to screen to minimize their risk. Plain and simple. Those of us who play in that arena, must be willing to provide some information. Consider it part of the entry fee. Sure there are risks, but sometimes the rewards are pretty f**king incredible. Risk and benefit. Balance. Fun. Choices. What is life without risks? One that is not nearly as fun! Have fun, but be careful out there.
Later Dudes!
TD
Well said Tyler.
King Co. sheriff Detectives..wow.I didn't catch all the info but didn't someone rat GOE out or a pig went online and put it all together? A "black book" with some bigwigs. Big deal. Everyone likes f**king. I'll take a SW or low profile indie anytime.
P
Well said, Pariah. This is the first time that being poor kept anybody out of trouble. Those of us who can't drop a couple bills to get laid are in the clear. Whew!
But does everybody like f***ing? Clearly the good citizens of the King County Sheriff's Office don't seem to like the idea of other people f***ing.
By the way, CDL, please P.M. me so we can discuss the corpus delecti rule.
T-Man
I picked up Theresa last night just north of the bridge. I pulled the ambush at the cross street routine and she almost passed me by but then recognized me and got it. She's a long time SW that usually works downtown around the Hurricane/Denny Park area. I don't go down there much any more after having had a couple of bad experiences a couple of years ago. She's late 30's early 40's, brown hair, a little plump but has a lot of experience and uses it successfully to provide a good job. However, last night she had this terrible cough and explained she wasn't planning on dating but was headed up to visit a friend at a motel before the park. She said she was hungry and so I drove her on up Aurora for a burger and shake and then dropped her back at her friend's motel. She provided a little hand action as we were headed back south which was cool but as sick as she sounded, I didn't want anything further. As per JA's post, a burger goes a long ways in the karma department.
PS: One other rule, don't let SWs use your cell phone. I had one call herself and leave a message. When she got home she captured my number from her caller ID and then drove me crazy for about a month.
Cheers, HS
petedragon
12-10-03, 18:45
GOE - High Priced Escorts. I gotta laugh at that one. They are, er were, in the 250/hr range. That's one step up from AMP pricing. Basically middle market prices.
Up from there, 300-350 is common and you see some at 400 and up. The traveling pornstar usually start at 750/hr. Expensive but at least its not a quick blowjob in the front seat of a car with the neighborhood watch looking on...
I've seen ladies at the 250 level and if you are careful, you can get a GFE. Otherwise, a SW with the right attitude is a 10X better value.
SeattleGman
12-11-03, 02:30
Picked up what I think might be a holiday ho tonight. She goes by Kay Kay and I picked her at Aurora and 145th at about 7:30PM tonight. She is a WSW in her late 20's nice natural rack, but not oversized. Great face and awesome attitude. Told me that FS was off limits because of the red tide came in. She offered 30 for covered bj so I told her the 20 was the going price. She got a little upset, but agreed to 25. After parking, I realized I only had a 10 and 20 so offered her the 30 if she did a good job. She started the covered bj with good action. Let me suck and fondle her very nice rack. She offered anal after she got really hot, but I was in a hurry so I passed. I would have taken her up on it, but I absolutely had to be somewhere. Daaam! I am certain that FS would be awesome with this girl. She didn't have a mobile phone so I gave her my digits. Hope I can hook up with her again.
One the way to drop her back off noticed an LE talking to a girl near 145th. She recognized her as a friend. She kinda freaked a little and asked me to take her home in Greenwood. I would have, but again I was in hurry so I dropped her off near 130th. I would rate her a 10 on service, 9 on looks, and 9 on attitude (on the Aurora Ave scale). Didn't rush me or anything. I got the feeling she enjoys her work. I think she would likely be a PSE on a FS experience. Admitted that she was an alcoholic and drug user, but couldn't really tell to be honest. Very clean and smelled nice. She said that she was funding Christmas actitivies.
Michael1967
12-11-03, 08:10
Well I had the SW from hell last night. I did the White Center cruise last night and there was absolutely 0 law enforcement out (of course they're never there when you need them). There were 3 young black SWs out (there were actually very good looking, but I learned years ago to leave the black girls alone) and that was about it.
I made a couple of circles and decided to try down Delridge - there is usually activity by the 7/11 north of Roxbury. I saw a solid 8, latina that was completely wasted walking to the 7/11. She hit up three cars in the parking lot and then went in the 7/11 to try and buy a drink. I made a stop to "look at the magazines". She looked better up close than she did on the street. Then came my dilemma, I don't like to pick up SWs when they are that wasted, you never know what they'll do, but she was hot, I've never seen her before AND she was Latina.
I figured I would circle around the block one more time. As I was coming around to Delridge she was waiting for me on a side street. I figured "what the hell" and let her in. She wanted $40 for a BJ and I told her never. She came back with $20. At this point she was twitching and I realized that I really didn't want her in my car so I told her to forget it. She tried to talk me into it and I told her no and to get out.
At this point she says, "I'm not getting out until I get compensated for my time" (the total of 45 seconds that she was in the car). I said forget it, I don't play that shit, get out. She said, "you've wasted my time, now I'm going to waste your time. I'm not going anywhere". I just spent the last 2 hours yelling at my moneygrubbing ex-wife and now I had a moneygrubbing ho trying to blackmail me. I said fine, I'll look for a cop. I drove around White Center and....you guessed it, not a cop anywhere.
I finally decided to take her to the police station on Delridge and she was talking shit the whole way there. How I was going to jail unless I gave her money. How much of an upstanding citizen she was etc..,. I pulled into the parking lot at the old K-mart and gave her 3 chances to get out. She still continued to talk shit, so I pulled behind a police car with a cop in it and started honking my horn. At this point, she apologizes and tells me if I take her back, she'll get out. Ummm....too late.
The lady cop in the car called backup and immediately there were 6 cops out there. She gave her story...which was that she asked me for a ride, I told her to give me a blowjob for $40. She refused and I took her to the police station against her will. My story was that I was at a stop sign, she waved at me, I waved back she got in asked to give me a blow job for $40. I told her no and she refused to get out. I took her to the police station to get rid of her.
They ran my id and couldn't find anything...the lady cop said something that got my attention when she was talking to the other cop. She said, "I checked everywhere and could find absolutely nothing on him, I flagged his ID just in case." Does this mean if I get pulled over again, they will find out about this if they run my driver's license?
They ran her ID and found several warrants including a SOAP order. How stupid can someone be? They let me go with the warning that if this happens again, they will spend more time trying to get to the bottom of it.
How dumb could this chick be? She told the cops I wouldn't let her out, but the female cop watched me stop in the K-mart parking lot where this girl could've gotten out. They searched my car and found nothing (Thank God). The male cop was cool, he told me if I kept my mouth shut, I would be out of there in a few minutes. I started arguing with the SW and he stopped me and said, "It's not worth it, the more you talk, the bigger chance that you're going to let something slip and then we'll have to arrest you." While they were running my license, he said more than once "Damn, she's hot!". Then he would look at me and say,"But she's not worth the risk."
Anyway, that was my screwed up evening. The only highlight to all of this is that I won a contract that I've been working on forever and I get to take another trip out of the country in March. Honduras this time...my all-time favorite spot for cheap sex.
Later
Michael,
Wow, that does sound like the date from hell. I've always kind of avoided that area around White Center and Delridge because it's been my experience that the girls are more interested in ripping you off than actually completing a date. The Belltown/Aurora hookers are usually out there day after day and wouldn't last long if they were ripping off customers. But the ones in White Center just don't seem to care.
I must say though (IMHO) that as my mom used to say "you were penny-wise and dollar-foolish. I think I would have tossed her ten bucks to get her to leave. Driving around looking for a cop could have landed you in deep shit. Several times I've found crack pipes in my car after a date. It would have been real easy for her to discard one in yours with the cops showing up. And if you get pulled over again with a SW it will be hard to convince the cops that it happened again.
I know it's hard to give into some SW's blackmail, but all things considered it may have been the thing to do.
I did a quick cruise through Denny Park and Hurricane Cafe yesterday around dinner-time and saw nothing.
Civ2K
Michael1967
12-11-03, 17:03
Civ 2000,
I think on a normal day I would have given her money, but I had one of those fights with my ex-wife. I give her $800 per month in child support and she's getting evicted from her house. She calls me and tells me I need to give her some extra money to keep her from getting evicted. Several months ago, I gave her $575 extra to keep her car from getting repossessed and she never paid it (she now drives a $200 car) and refused to tell me what happened with the money. She then told me if I don't give her the money, I couldn't see my kids anymore (she has pulled this six or seven times in the last several years). In the past, I've stopped paying child support until I see the kids again, but now I have the State Gestapo that will seize my assets if I don't pay her and...."child support and visitation are separate issues." I then went to see my children's Christmas performance at school and sat through 45 minutes of horrid elementary school singing to find out that she went and pulled them from the performance so I couldn't see them....
Now fast forward to a few hours later and some SW refusing to get out of my car unless I gave her some money for her 45 seconds of time and you would understand my reaction.
Later,
Michael
Hey, Completely understandable, we've all had days like that. Sometimes you just have to stand your ground. You and I must have that "nice guy" look about us. At least I do. A SW takes one look at me and she knows I'm not going to toss her sorry ass out of the car like a lot of guys would. Now I have a buddy who has kind of a psycho look about him. He gives them the look and tells them to get out and they hit the ground running. I just returned home from White Center where I thought I might catch a glimpse of this SW. I didn't see her or anyone else but did see a lot of LE, mostly on the King County side. Of course when you don't need one.
Brethren,
Same thing has happened to me a couple of times, which is why I refer to my vehicle as the Trashmobile: When it has happened, I just take the key, get out, and walk to the nearest pay phone. I never cruise with anything in the car I wouldn't mind losing, and so far all I've lost is a pack of smokes.
T-Man
Micheal,
you got bigger nuts than I do, man! I have to agree with Civ,toss her a 5 spot, make a post and continue to march. Now that you're flagged, you gave the pigs another reason to f**k with you in the area(but who cares you'removing right?) Can't loose your head in this hobby. Discretion is best. I think we all have an ex we'd like to take a chainsaw to.
White Center, S. Park, Boulvard Park used to be the Bomb! Now all you get is lousy service or a half azz hustle...still, its better than Everett!:.)
P
Play A Pimp
12-11-03, 18:35
Gentlemen,
I think we've all had this situation on our hands, demanding street walkers that think they should get the same rate as shrinks. Michael, I'm glad you've stood your ground. It was the right thing to do. If these chicks take one or two guys for a ride, they think that they can take everyone for a ride. I also agree with you Civ2000, these chicks think that just because you're a nice guy, or that you wear a suit, you won't be mean. Guys, don't worry about threatening to knock a couple of teeth out of chicks like Michael's Latina. After you politlely ask these girls to leave, follow it up with a threat. Most of these chicks have been beaten within an inch of their life and know that it's not worth taking a chance with you. Cops don't give two shits about a beat up crack addict hooker, and they know it. I don't have the patience to drive some snatch to a police station. Michael, you're a better man than I.
PP
On a side note. Always remember gents, you NEVER have to consent to a car search, and there's nothing a cop can do if you don't consent. The cops have less power than you may think. Also, say as little as possible to a cop and NEVER admit to breaking the law. They'll give you some story about making it easier on you... That's crap, it'll just get you a night in jail.
Just out of curiosity. In Michael's situation, would driving to a rather desserted spot and forcably removing her from the car work?
If police intervenes, give the same explaination. She *is* tresspassing on your property (your car).
Joint Action
12-11-03, 21:38
Battousai, if she scratches you and claims you tried to rape her you are in for months of hell and your life will never be the same (that's if you're lucky). Pay the small blackmail fee and know that someday, somewhere, somebody will kick her ass for you.
JA
Battousai, I believe at this point you just need to get her out of your car as peacefully as possible. You take her to a deserted spot and forcibly remove her and she fights back. Then what? You hit her and she gets a welt above her eye. The cop shows up and you get nailed for assault. Or possibly she has a knife or something. Things can get ugly in a hurry with a drunk SW. And as they say on COPS, "we'll make the arrest and let the courts figure it out".
My philosophy is never to involve LE; especially when I'm breaking the law. Along with a various assortment of crack pipes, cigarettes, makeup, etc that I've found in my car, I've also found a couple of knifes, a chop stick sharpened to a point, a knitting needle, and a can of mace. If five or ten bucks will get her out of my car without problems or having to explain something to LE so be it. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.
Civ2K
sean_double
12-11-03, 22:42
I agree with CIV2000 and Pariah, you never want to get the cops involved in anything when you can avoid it; they aren't too nice to johns when they get the chance.
About 15 years ago I actually got caught in the middle of getting a blow job in a parking garage around Pine and Bellevue St. I told them that she was my girlfriend, but they didn't buy it and took us both to the East Precinct. They obviously knew she was a SW.
They asked me a bunch of questions, threatend to call call my (now) ex-wife, and made me sit around in a holding cell for about 4 hours; then just let me go on my way.
When I think about it now it kind of makes me laugh because of the stern faced lecture I had to endure about the dangers of sex
and the brutal underworld of street prostitution, but it scared the sh*t out of me at the time and I think they enjoyed f*cking with me.
Take Care,
Sean
Brethren:
Thank you for your wisdom and insight in these troubled times.
Civ2000, I hope you found that trash in your car over a period of time, not all at once. Although it sounds like my weekly clean-out of the Trashmobile.
I've already discussed my rather Zen way of dealing with the squating hoes, just taking the keys and walking away. I figure that the worst that can happen is she'll rip the upholstery apart and, Hell, it ain't much now.
But what I really want to write about is this: Go scratch thru the recycling bin for that copy of Thursday's P.I. There is a long Page One article about the Garden of Eden and how the snakes got in because of domestic disharmony. The informant in the case sounds like a real loser. He got his ass bounced from the house on a d.v. order, thereby losing his dog, which pissed him off, etc. There's enough in the P.I. article to discredit him anyway. Add to that he has AIDS and Hep "C" and, considering how he probably got those bugs, if the politzei are relying on his credability, their case is lame in both legs.
Do well and be careful out there.
T-Man
Mariners Man
12-12-03, 08:42
Hi all:
My buddy who passes his escapades on to me has been a slacker lately. I apologize for him.
Approx one month ago he runs into Jeanette, a friendly BSW around Fariview and Republican around 3am. They agree to a CBJ at his place for .40. Good technique with breasts exposed. A 5-6 on the scale.
Next night he runs into the gal who I believe is known as Crack Head Jen, WSW w/ reddish hair between Jones Soda and Denny Park. Settles for CBJ for .20. Again with good technique. Very quick and easy, he says.
My buddy goes out again after the Rams/Browns game and, after a few drinks, has a less-than-stellar night. Meets up with Ronny/Roni, WSW, by Jones Soda. She's slightly chunky but tall and agrees to go to her place.
After agreeing for FS for .50, his radar went into high gear when she told him her 'Grandpa' was in the other room. He turns out to be an older black man (she's white) who stumbles out in the room while my buddy has his pants around his legs. Holy.
She cons him into giving her a ride to a different spot, after which time she'll finish with him. He does, but never finishes.
Later that same evening (5am-ish), he runs into Kelly, a short, young WSW with a super rack. Agrees to CBJ for .30 and they zip off to a spot. She's freakin a little because it's gettin lighter outside, altho he tells me it was still nearly dark.
Long story short, he's too tired and wished he were at home with more cold drinks.
A tip: Pay the girls half before and half at completion. My friend would have saved .55!
Sorry 4 the long post.
Be safe!
MM
Seattle-area mongers, and lurkers from elsewhere, here are links to the P-I stories about the Garden of Eden bust that Titman mentioned below:
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/151842_prostitution10.html?searchpagefrom=1&searchdiff=3
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/152023_prostitutefolo11.html?searchpagefrom=1&searchdiff=1
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/jamieson/152239_robert12.html?searchpagefrom=1&searchdiff=1
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/local/152240_gardenofeden12.html?searchpagefrom=1&searchdiff=1
Make note of the name on one of the writers (Ho). Wonder if she's related to Don.
It appears that the GOE fiasco has prompted TRB to shut it's doors, too. My motto is to be very careful about what I post on a board that logs IP addresses, and to be careful about what I say in emails.
Titman,
I saw that BS about GOE on the news las night. the "rat" got bent out of shape over a friggin dog? What a doofis looser! He was probably moooching off those women anyway. Now the media is trying to push the hidden "treasure" in the back yard.
P
Report for December 10th, 2003
Time: 7pm-8:30pm
Location: Aurora 145th to Denny.
I heard about this guy who took a cruise from 145th to Denny park, seeing only 3 in the area. He told me about some guy that sniped a hot WSW in front of KK on Aurora -- you win some you loose some he says. After that incident he spotted a blonde walking by the cemetery with some dude on a bike, kind of eye-balling traffic. He waited until she lost the BMX-kid and picked her up. She was white, ~30 years old, 5'8, 130 pounds, and 'needed' a ride. I have my doubts about what happened next -- and to tell you the truth, I think the guy is a liar. I mean why would he tell me such an story, especially with the recent GOE bust in Seattle. He did mention somthing about missing .3 from his wallet after he gave her a ride, whatever that means.
I’m glad I don’t participate in this kind of activity. I'll be talking to my friend about his actions, later.
-D
Tried TRB for the first time for a few days and got the no server response. Does anyone know for sure if shut down in relation to GOE bust. Also how secure, if any, were posts to TRB?
I picked up Kim on Aurora Wednesday night. She's a WSW about 5'6" tall, reddish blonde hair, probably early 30's although I'm terrible at ages the older I get. I have seen her on her usual north Aurora stroll for a probably a year but never connected before for some reason. During the summer I noticed she wore the same turtle shell RayBan sunglasses that I do. She was very clean, nice and polite. She walked the 1/2 block off the boulevard that I require to get in the car without a complaint. She started at $.5 for CBJ but accepted $.22 (including two bucks in change from my parking meter stash). Ain't the free market system great. She had great technique, slow and deep. A good experience all around. She says she's homeless and doesn't have a contact number but she's a pretty regular player in the area.
Michael: I have not had the same problem you had the other night, but I agree with the other guys, better to pay the bribe and then report her on the board. Never, ever get LE involved unless you think you're life is in danger. I also try and determine if the SW is impaired before I make the stop. You mentioned you knew she was wasted before you picked her up. No matter how hot, I recommend avoiding obviously drunk and particularly drug tweaking girls. My limited experience with them is they are incoherent at best and unreasonable and violent at worst. The worst I have experienced is a drunk SW that pissed in the passenger seat of my car. I told my SO that I picked up a wayward dog out of the middle of the street and it did it before I took it to the animal shelter.
Cheers,
HS
Had a nice meeting with a HSW named victoria that I met around 145 and aurora around 5:30 pm Fri. We talked about cbj for .30 and how she has been known to be seen in a red dress while pregnant a couple of years ago. It seems she has a few friends and one of them is Kay kay previously mentioned by Seattlegman. All in all a nice talk to a decent looking 7. Got sidetracked while driving her north to someplace and did not ask what some of her other services might include but I enjoyed our talk.
Play safe all.
All right guys- Who had the threesome with Sparkle and her friend tonight?
About 9:15 I'm cruising Aurora and I see what I think was Sparkle and a skinner BSW leaving a motel together. If it was you. Good on ya.
I saw Furhat Kelly waiting for the bus and reading a book. When I passed back down that way about 5 minutes later she was gone... having gotten on the bus I guess.
A wsw dressed pretty much like a boy was out around 90th. Other than that I saw nuthing.
Anyone who has sampled Furhat Kelly could you PM me or post here about it. If memory serves she is pricey but is so cool she's worth it.
TRB is down due to a hosting issue, only indirectly related to the GoE bust. Seems its host decided they didn't want to TRB because it may end up catching some heat. TRB is supposed to be up as soon as they can get the issue resolved.
Friday night Midnight report: Decided to end my self-imposed moritorium on picking up hookers and hit the strolls. Nothing at Denny Park or Belltown. Then I headed up Aurora and saw a blonde possible near Winona and nothing up to 145th and back. In the AAA area I saw two very young BSW's who were without a doubt "Felony" material. I didn't even want to be seen slowing down to take a look so I hit the tunnel and on to White Center. Saw two fairly nice Hispanics who I would have picked up had it not been White Center. A lot of unsavory characters and gang banger types lurking around and I decided against it. I saw one fat one near 7-11 in Boulevard Park and decided if I were going to end almost a month without SW's it surely wouldn't be with her.
Titman, Yes that collection took probably two or three hundred car dates to accumulate. My record for one date was with Rondonna of the Denny Park area: one cell phone, one pack Newports with crack pipe inside and two rocks in the cellophane, a lighter, two condoms, and the money I had given her. I drove around for almost an hour looking for her to give her stuff back and I've never seen a SW so grateful. Well not grateful enough to give me a free date the next time.
Civ2000
GettingTang
12-13-03, 06:49
Got a quick question for anyone knowledgeable in law. I'm down here in SD and decided for a late night cruise tonight. Found myself a hot blonde. She jumped in, grabbed my package and named her price. She seemed high and a little off center. We drove to a park and when we arrived, she whips out a crack pipe, loaded it up at which point I asked her to please wait until we were done and I dropped her off. She refused and lit up her pipe at which point I got out of the car while she finished and blew her crap out the window. After we got back and I dropped her off, I looked down on the seat and lone behold, there was a broken crack pipe and a needle! Freaked me out!
My question is, we all know many if not most of these girls are on drugs. You're being dishonest with yourself if you think otherwise. Who gets busted if a cop pulls up on you and they find drugs or drugs stuff in the car? What if she tries to shove it under the seat and they find it, am I busted? This has always been a concern of mine over the years, I have noticed many hookers with drugs. How do you protect yourself from getting a wrap for possession of drugs for picking up a working girl? I mean if they tested me for drugs, I'm negative, guaranteed, I do not smoke crack or use any other narcotic, but am I still liable?
Thanks in advance for the answers!
GETTINGTANG~!
Joint Action
12-13-03, 13:24
Gettingtang,
Even though any cop that’s smarter than a Golden Retriever could figure out that the “goods” are probably hers, they always have the option of arresting you and letting the courts decide. That in itself is a very nasty proposition and even if eventually found innocent you still could face arrest, car impound, bail, court appearances, attorney fees, time lost from work and more just to exonerate yourself. WA State has very strict drug paraphernalia laws so you (or her) don’t even have to be in possession of drugs to get busted. The bottom line is that almost all of them imbibe and carry their stuff with them and you are always at some risk. The best way to protect yourself is to try not to do ANYTHING to attract LE attention and if stopped try to remember all of the tips you have read here and on the Un_Circumcised site.
JA
SeattleCyclist
12-13-03, 15:17
In response to Tang's question: Generally, LE will know exactly whose drugs are whose after a few questions. Just because LE thinks that the it is the gal's stuff, it will not prevent them from making a charge against all parties in the vehicle and let the prosecutor make the call on moving forward. I doubt that a hobbyist would be convicted if the case went to trial, the only drawback is it will cost you a minimum of 10-15K for legal fees and the related secondary problems a trial would cause. I have always been of the opinion that just about every SW is hooked on something and expect that potential liability. Just remember, say nothing without talking to your attorney.
SC
Yesterday there was a Seattle Times article about TRB and how "hobbyists" actually rate the "providers" on line. TRB was down and probably out the same day. I doubt they'll be up and running anytime soon even if they do find a new server host. Now that the publics aware of it, the do gooders will hound LE into acting. Let's hope there is no jealous idiot with a stupid little stomp dog on Jackson's board.
Cheers, HS
Play A Pimp
12-13-03, 18:29
GettingTang,
The key to this is preparation my dear friend. You HAVE to have a simple, plausible story before you get in trouble. Know it by heart. Rehearse it. Remember, most of time we give cops the information they need to screw us.
If you get pulled over with a street walker, tell her to shut up and not say a word other than her name and that she was hitchhiking and you were nice enought to give her a ride. When the cops ask what you were doing, tell them you were giving a woman a ride. Don't tell them it's your girlfriend, niece, sister, whatever. You don't know this chick, and that will be apparent soon enough. Also, never give the cops permission to search your car or your person. They have no right to. Why invite them to find something when there's no cause? Sure, you might get a ticket for not having a front license plate, or no mud flaps or something stupid like that as retaliation, but it's much easier than the possibility of them finding a crack pipe and rock and you trying to talk your way out of that. Pay the fine for the ticket and call it a day.
In your situation Tang, the best thing to do is to get that shit out of your car, ASAP, without actually touching it. Find a 7-11 or a gas station or whatever, get some napkins. Find a very dark spot, pull over (turn your lights off, don't let someone write down you license plate number) pick the shit up out of you car and leave it on the side of the road. Next step. Get the hell out of there. You have to remember, police response time to a bank robbery is consistantly over three minutes. A call to the cops about a man litering is not going to get top priority. You have plenty of time to leave.
If, you do find yourself in the unexpected situation of being arrested, because the crack pipe/drugs were in plain view, etc. You'll probably also be charged with operating the vehicle under the influence of a controlled substance. This is a VERY good thing. Most states give you the right to request a BLOOD test for alcohol, drugs, etc. Ask that this be done immediately as proof you are not the owner. Recite your hitchhiker story and tell them you had no idea.
The key here is, don't make up a lie on the fly. You'll screw up. You'll tell a different story when asked about it multiple times. Get a plausible, little white lie, and then stick with it. The best lies are ony slightly false. Example, fact: You did pick up a woman, give her description, tell them what you think her name is, etc. Fact: You did give her a ride. Tell them approximately where you picked her up, and where you dropped her off. Tell them you thought it was odd that she wanted such a short ride (i.e. two blocks). The lie part - She wanted a ride only, not sex in exchange for money. That's the only part of your story that needs to be a lie. The rest can be true and it doesn't hurt you, it actually helps you. And the last thing to remember is, give as little information as possible, that way you won't give too much information. If you're SW was blond, 5'3, 37 years old, smoked newports, had a mole on her left cheeck and was dressed in a black leather jacket and jeans, when asked what she looked like, say "Blond, short, thirties." It's the truth, but it's still vague. When asked a yes or no question, answer "yes" or "no." You can only hang yourself by providing more info.
Believe me, I've had enough encounters with the legal system to know this is what you need to do. Cops never want to help you out, they only want to arrest you.
PP
Also, to respond to Tang's question: From what I understand if the stuff is in your car it is your responsibility. Under the law you are liable for anything in your car. Not only could you get charged with a VUCSA (violation uniformed controlled substance act) a felony, you can and probably will have your vehicle seized. Even though you can test clean for drug use the cops can always claim that you intended to use the drug as a bargaining chip for the SW. The SW is always going to vehemently deny the drugs are hers, otherwise why would she take them out of her pocket and toss them under the seat. And what cop/prosecutor wouldn't love to get a felony bust/car seizure on a monger.
Very likely you could beat a first offense VUCSA. Often they don't even prosecute a first offense. And with drug court and deferred prosecution you could almost certainly have it squashed if you jumped through all the hoops. But I don't think you can get the car back. This whole scenario is my biggest fear while mongering. I don't worry too much about getting robbed, or busted for solicitation or lewd behavior, etc, etc, but getting busted with drugs is another matter altogether. I would love to hear CDL's opinion on this matter.
Civ2K
Curious One
12-13-03, 20:27
Hi guys,
A lurker stepping out of the shadows for a second to ask your opinion on a question I have. For those who do car dates, I think it's a pretty fair assumption that if LE rolls up on you in the act, you're getting hit with at least a lewdness charge and maybe more depending on how things go down.
My question is, what happens if you're not caught in the act by LE, but caught on film or video by a normal citizen? There is probably more of a chance of it happening to those who go out during the daylight hours, but with nightvision cameras it could happen at any time. What's the chance that you'll be sitting at home a few days after your encounter and LE rolls up at your house? In my mind, it seems unlikely for them to waste the resources to track down someone for what would probably amount to a public indecency or lewdness charge.
Your thoughts?
Thanks.
C-O
DENNY PARK ALERT
I picked up a young Native SW with short dyed blonde hair tonight about 11:00 in the Denny Park area on 9th between Thomas and John. I've picked her up quite a few times with no problems so when she said she had a good spot I agreed. We drove about 8 blocks east of where I picked her up and parked on a side street where I could see traffic coming either way for a couple of blocks. We're just getting started with BBBJ when I see two blk males approaching fairly quickly on foot from either direction. They were about 75 feet away when I asked her if these were friends of hers. She said yes and rolled down the window and shouted at the top of her lungs "back off, he's a friend, I'll be done in a few minutes".
I asked her what that was all about and she said that she'd had some "scandalous dates recently" and these guys were helping her get even. I believe had I been a new customer instead of a semi-regular I would have either gotten robbed or at best she would have hopped out of the car with my money before completing the date. As it turned out I finished the date quickly and the whole time I could see these guys standing off in the shadows a hundred or so feet away. Definately a waste of time and money and not a bit of fun. Be careful out there.
Civ2K
GettingTang
12-14-03, 05:26
Well, I called the SDPD and asked them just the question I asked here about drugs on the girls. I did not get a fair response. I was treated rather rudely. I explained the exact set of scenarios about an SW having drugs on her possession, who would go down for it. The cop on the phone told me I would, because I should not be picking up SWers. I tried politely to explain to him, I was no law expert, but even I knew the rights of due process and this not to be true. There is some burden of proof. I explained it would be quite obvious to any officer who's drugs they are. He told me they simply do not care. "If we pull you over, or pull up on you, and there are narcotics in the car, or on any person in the car, that everyone is going to jail and facing charges! " (His exact words!)
Now I tried to reason with this individual. He had the old; "I know it all attitude" and because my question pertained to picking up a working girl, it basically stopped there as far as he was concerned. I had to slap myself and try and remember we are in America here. So what I got from the brief phone conversation, is that the police will basically show you no mercy if they catch you with an SW. They will use any tactic they can to stick you with some sort of a charge. This is not good news for us mongers. Makes me want to take to only paying for indoor providers. There aint no way I'm going down for a drug charge because some crack hoe has dope on her!
You would think common sense would prevail with these police officers. The prostitute has likely a criminal record five pages long, most likely drug offenses, she is probably high and under the influence of drugs. Her pee will come back dirty. The monger, being me. Will have no criminal record, not even a parking ticket, be sober and clean, tests will reveal no drug use. I explained this to the cop on the phone. He told me I still would be charged and would get to try and prove my case in court. I told him it's the other way around. I'm innocent, he gets to prove it, not me. He laughed, said "ya right" and hung up the phone! Can you believe that!
Best check for drugs boys when picking up the girls! What a joke!
GETTINGTANG~!
Tang:
Civ2000 and I are children of the Sixties. We understand your outrage. And we agree with each other and with the cop.
Most of my life has been spent in and around the criminal justice system. I have no illusions.
First, there is such a thing as "constructive possession". The law presumes you know what's in your car and you own it all. It is up to you to prove it's not, and it is damnned hard to prove.
Second, I've known people who have been acquitted of felonies. I've also known a couple people who were run over by trucks and lived. The experience is pretty much the same.
T-Man
Hello all,
Let me first start by thanking everybody who continues to post their experiences and wisdom on this board. I'm very new to the hobby, truth be told I have yet to actually pick up my first SW, but with all the tips I've picked up from you all I should be in the game in no time. I'm currently living out here in N. Seattle and have seen a TON of posts for Aurora SW on this board.
So here's my question, and I apologize in advance for it's insipid tone but please bare with me. How can you tell if a girl is a SW? I drive up and down 99 all the time and for the life of me I can't tell if a girl is a SW or just waiting for the bus. I have NO radar when it comes to this so any help on this would be greatly appreciated. Once again, thanks for all your wisdom guys!
Also, while I'm asking, does anyone know of any decent AMPs out here in N. Seattle / Shoreline area? Just wanting to have a hassle free first experience. I'm sure you all can appreciate that :)
Thanks again, guys!
Hi all,
Been a lurker to this board for some time now. Great information shared here. My question is I recently picked up Nikki near the AAA, she was a good expirence and good looking for a sw - bleach blond hair & drugs have yet to take a toll on her. Went looking for her this past weekend and did not see her. Did anybody see her this past week, I saw where a couple of you have picked her up before.
Tang, Unfortunately the burden of proof IS satisfied when the drugs are found in your car. It even extends beyond what you described. In a lot of places you can get your car conviscated even if you're not driving it. Say you loan it to a friend who then picks up a SW and they find drugs. In my experience though it's been the homeless SW's that carry drugs on their person. Most SW's if they have a home or motel nearby where they are staying will leave the dope at home to avoid a more serious charge themselves. Which is another good reason not to pick anyone up in the Denny Park stroll.
Xero242, If you are casually driving 99 you probably won't see anything. But if you are out there putting on the miles you will start to see things. Park across the street and watch the girl at the bus stop. When the bus comes the SW will move on perhaps to the bus stop on the other side of the street. Does she get picked up by a guy in a car? Chances are in 30 minutes she will be back. SW's will generally make eye contact with you. Or give a nod. Some are blatant and will smile and wave. Pull up to the next side street. The SW will come running up. Most non-working gals would be afraid of walking alone down Aurora at night. If you see a gal strolling along confidently looking towards traffic bingo.
Civ2K
Tang,
Re: your phone talk with the cop. Their initial response is always no mercy and to overcharge you for any and everything. Also they might correctly believe that the reason the SP can afford to buy her drugs is because of mongers contributions. There was quite a long thread on the Tacoma board awhile ago about this connection of knowingly supporting their drug habits and the conclusion seemed to be: oh well, it just is part of the territory.
Rick
Lookin for Stuff
12-14-03, 19:51
Cruised Aurora several times today 12/14 didnt see any all day.
Around 3 pm saw a WSW I've seen in the past . Stopped and waited about 1/4 mile further up the road. Stood outside my car and waited to talk to her. Her name is Teresa in her 30's nice looking gal, tight body for her age. She's clean doesn't use , just supliments her income out here from time to time to help make rent. She strolls between 130th and 145th wears a black full length jacket and sometimes carries an umbrella. Definitley worth the stop.
Be Safe
LFS
Joint Action
12-15-03, 02:39
SeattleGman, check your PM.
JA
Tube Steak
12-15-03, 03:04
Sat. night report: Came down for an X-mas party from the far north. Thought I might do a little shopping pre-party, but alas nothing available from 205th down to Winona, and I mean nada. On way home, around midnight saw a blond SP with dark roots @ 103rd (looked not too bad from afar, slightly intoxicated and in the dark). Turned around at Larry's and she was gone. Was that one of you dogs?
Nothing else the whole way north. Probably in no condition to drive 80 miles let alone up and Aurora, so I hopped on the freeway and winged my way home. Let me tell you , I wish that party was in Vancouver.
Can anybody please tell me about any activities available in Renton? SW, AMP, etc.
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Sunday night I hooked up with Linda (I presume the younger Linda), blonde hair, 20s, nice girl though a little talkative. She surprised me by telling me she really loved giving head and to make sure I told her exactly what I wanted her to do. Great technique and she actually listened and followed instructions. BBBJTC $.30. She actually brought up the fact that she was reviewed on this board.
Cheers, HS
Lookin for Stuff
12-16-03, 02:07
Cruised Aurora 12/15 around 2pm saw three WSW , LALinda , Teresa and a short gal maybe in her 40's , short blonde hair , petite gal not very atractive. Better than yesterday, but of course it was a sunnier day.
BE SAFE
LFS
sean_double
12-16-03, 10:43
I was just reading the Seattle Times this morning and this caught my eye. It seems pretty germain to the recent discussion concerning SWs bringing drugs into your car without your knowledge.
I suppose it'll still be at the cop's discretion, but this looks like an ominous development.
http://seattletimes.nwsource.com/html/nationworld/2001816109_scotus16.html
Take Care,
Sean
HS, could you give us an idea of where you hooked up with Linda?
Hello all.
Thanks again for the info posted on this board. I was wondering if anyone out there might have any recomendations on any SW for a first timer like me? Head Snap, I was wondering if I could inquire about Linda? What area does she frequent?
Thanks again fellas for all your help.
Xero
Lookin for Stuff
12-16-03, 17:11
Fellas
Just got a call from my buddy , 12/16 12pm. Says he was out and about spotted a WSW with a chest that wouldn't quit . He had to stop couldn't help himself. She's walkin so. on Aurora across from Albertsons right at the stop light , gives him the eye so he turns up to the road she follows and in to his car . They say hi and he reaches right over befor any small talk and starts to play with those funbags, she moans softly and says hi again.
She wants .5 for cbj he says he'll do .5 for 1/2 & 1/2 she agrees after 1-2 seconds worth of thinking . They go to a place where they spend the next hour together. Turns out they are 34 "G" !!
He Says when she unleashed them what a wonderful surprise.
Her name is Aereol she is 25 years old. Says she used to dance .
She does the Aurora stroll from 145th-125th between noon and 4pm .Says she see's only 1-2 guys a day , no contact number , what a bummer.
What a wonderful gift for himself for Christmas
BE SAFE
LFS
Hello all,
Can anyone send me e-mail contact info for: India, Josefina, and Thai? They advertize in the seattle weekly.
Thanks-longtime hobbiest.
Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.
I hooked up with Angel the other day after talking with her on a telephone chat line. At the time I had no idea she was as SW, but as soon as I met her in person at her N Aurora motel it was pretty obvious. Angel is about 5-7, 130 lbs, a little junk in the trunk from child bearing, blonde, about 35 I'd say, and gave a great little BBBJTC.
At the time I was pretty psyched to be able to relax and kick back without having to worry about Ellie stopping by for a visit. I thought it was a little strange that she wanted to leave the window open...so she could listen for the manager's approach. As we were relaxing in the afterglow, she suddenly jumped out of bed, peeked out the window and said, 'Oh SHIT, it's my roommate!. Get your pants on NOW!' What the heck? I did as I was told as she scurried around the room putting stuff away. Not more than a second after I got my shoes on, the door opened and in walked a HUGE brother. I decided it was time to say goodbye, as my heart was pumping a couple hundred beats per minute.
I got to my car, locked the doors, and breathed a huge sigh of relief. It could have easily turned out worse. It will be a long time before I get caught in that potential pitfall again.
I had a similar incident several years ago in SD. I visited this one girl that I knew. I was not sure where her apt was so I asked some black guys. We were doing the deed and some one knocks on the door. These 2 black guys and one of them pulled a knife and asked for some money. The girl yelled out window for cops and the gangbangers took off.
Geronimo,
I call B.S. Not on you. On Angel.
I've had that pulled on me too. It's a great way to get you out the door. You were lucky. At least you were basking in the afterglow.
I remember once when that happened to me - We had barely begun. Did I get my money back? Not. I made it out of there tho and then thought about it afterwards. Makes you feel pretty dumb, and yet fortunate that you didn't get slammed by some gangsta.
SeattleGman
12-16-03, 23:26
Update on Kay Kay I mentioned in a post a week or so ago. I gave her my digits because she said that she didn't have a cell phone. I got a call from her at 3AM Saturday night. She wanted to meet at the AM/PM in Greenwood. She is HOT so I agreed. I was all worked up and waited for her to arrive. She didn't show, so I called the number that my caller ID picked up. Called her and she seemed really drunk and came up with a bunch of excuses and finally said she had to cancel. Anyone else have a similar experience? I called the number again and it appears she doesn't live there (or at least anymore). By then I decided to cruise back on Aurora and saw a young WSW at about 145th at about 4AM. She was quickly picked up by another monger.
Anyone know how to get in touch with Kay Kay PM me...or post if anyone has seen her.
Carmen Update. I saw Carmen near the 'Cain this evening around 7:30 PM this evening. Didn't have time to turn around before she was picked up.
For Renton. If you keep your eye's out you might find a SW in Renton. I saw a possible near the Fred Myer giving the eye to traffic on a Saturday a few weeks ago. I saw her hop into a car as I was turning around in the parking lot.
That all for now,
i25
WellHungGuy
12-17-03, 11:32
Are things actually getting more difficult out there with the SWs, or is everyone just sharing their war stories lately? I had my first bad experience about two months ago...
WellHung, I think things are getting more difficult out there. LE seems to have been cracking down fairly hard the last 6 months or so, with the result being a lot of the nice SW's leave town. As a result you have more of the desperate SW's out there. The hardcore drug addicts; those who go out despite having a SOAP order; those who don't care enough to leave their drugs at home; etc, etc. Conversely when pickings are slim the mongers judgement is sometimes questionable. E. G. me picking up the Denny Park girl and Michael1967 picking up that drunk Hispanic; against our better judgement.
Civ2K
Mariners Man
12-17-03, 18:34
Hi all:
Been reading lately about the decline in our economy, etc and I noticed that people are harpin on the Denny Park area.
Why is it 'worse' than other areas like Broadway, MLK Way, etc? Different women? Just a question.
Also the other day I was reading about how LE wasn't bein 'fair' in regards to a phone conversation asking about the law, bla bla bla.
That struck me as funny. Morality of the hobby or drugs aside, don't expect a police officer to be 'fair' to you if you've been caught with a hooker and her crack pipe is found rollin around in your car. Life's not fair.
If you want to be treated fairly, stay home, cook a frozen pizza and watch Meet the Press.
Random thoughts...
Be safe
MM
Lookin for Stuff
12-17-03, 20:00
Cruised Aurora around noon 12/17 nothing but this older gal I see quite abit lately , in her late 40's or life has been hard. She strolls down by the Oak Tree area. A little to old for my taste but to each his own.
Be Safe
LFS
Tube Steak
12-18-03, 14:20
Just wanted to update the Vancouver entry thing for youse guys who can cruise Aurora for hours on end to no avail. Finally settling on that awful crack ho for way too much dough. I realize it's a long drive to BC, but for those who haven't tried it, it is highly reccomended.
1) If you want to cross easily, get a passport. Totally easy and it gives you a lot of options besides Canada. Otherwise bring your birth certificate. I can't think of any other way way to cross.
2) Be inconspicuous. Keep your flash level to a minimum, they are looking for terrorists and drug dealers, not mongers.
3) Empty your car out before you go. Maybe even wash it. That way if they decide to search you, you will have that much less work to put it back together and less for them to sift through, faster service. (a note on that, a friend of mine, non-monger I think,goes grocery shopping there every other week, been doing that for years got searched and his car is a mess. It took them 45 mins. to go through it. AND they left it a mess. .)
4) Have a reason to go. Shopping, sight-seeing ect. I live close, so going to dinner at a nice resturant is reason enough.
5) OBVIOUSLY- do not bring anything illegal. Viagra is legal, just put it in your wallet, or somewhere easy to explain. Not your pants pocket -ready for use. They sell condoms in Canada. Get them there.
6) Wear your seat belt and carry insurance. This is not Mexico fer christ's sake.
7) For some reason if you get your license run, a DUI is really bad news- so...don't drink before or during the trip unless you're staying and walking.
8) Get cash when you get there from an ATM. You get the most favorable exchange rate, usually without a fee. Don't pay with US dollars, not a good deal. A girl told me once that a $20 was a $20, no matter what color it was.
9) Re-entering is harder I think, because they ask you what you did there ;). Keep it simple. They grilled me for a while the other night, cause I was solo and it was at 1AM. There is a lot to do, you know? Once I left my underwear on the floor. They were all slobbered on, ya know. They looked in and didn't say a word, but I can imagine what they were thinking.
10) Duty Free- not open at the I-5 entry. You have to go through the truck entry or Blaine. You must stay 24 hrs. to avoid duty tax. A fair deal on Booze and smokes. I would pay the duty to get booze after hours on short notice sometimes, esp. on a Sat. night or holliday rather than tell them I wasn't bringing anything back.
11) Don't wise off to the border guards in either direction. They will make life difficult.
All for now- Happy mongering.
S.
Mariners Man, Since I'm one of the guys thats been harping on Denny Park, I'll answer your question. If Seattle has what could be considered the "low track" Denny Park would be it. Although an occaisonal gem can be found there, most of the SW's are bottom of the barrel type. Homeless, crack and heroin addicted SW's are the norm here. Most carry their drugs on them because at this stage of their lives jail is not a punishment, rather a vacation from the elements, three squares a day, a chance to meet up with all their friends, and time to get healthy again.
You are right about having similiar types on Broadway, MLK, etc. But not many of us mongers are picking up SW's in these areas so we don't often come in contact with them. It would be a dream come true for me if Broadway was a stroll. It's hard for me to walk down Broadway without getting a hard on for all those young, homeless punk and doper chicks. Same goes for the Ave. But they mostly just seem disinterested in anything sexual. In my experience of course.
Civ2K
N. Discreet
12-18-03, 17:01
Tuesday Night. 2:00 AM. Near Oak Tree Cinemas. Found a surprisingly cute early 20s SW, name was Faith. 34D. Nice shape. High as a kite but mellow. Kind of trashy in a good way if you know what I mean. Looked like the tramp teenage hitchhiker from a slasher movie. She was walking with two guys: one white, one black. I usually pass on that kind of situation but it was mighty late and her shirt was wide open. well you understand.
Went for CBJ and she did that simulated BJ trick. I hadn't seen that one in years! You know the one where they use their hand and think you won't notice it's a hand. Then at the end she kind of moves her mouth into position like it's been there the whole time.
At least she had the good sense not to ask for a tip.
If you like nice tits and covered handjobs she's your gal. Otherwise I'd urge you to pass her by
Mariners Man, I just wanted to add a couple of things to what Civ2K just said:
We just finished discussing what can happen to a monger if he's dating an SW who's holding drugs. Rule of thumb: Any girl you pick up at Denny Park is addicted, holding, and carrying paraphrenalia. Figure any girl around the AMP is addicted and her "boyfriend" is holding, and she wants to get back to him (with your money) to fix. Around Denny Park you might meet Jen. Ten years ago she was 17, clean, very pretty, and on the pipe. Now she still gives good service, but she limps, flexes, and tends to lose coordination. Note some recent reports about Jen. I have suggested that DEA might hire her as a model of what ten years of crack smoking will do.
The mangy hotels along East Marginal Way are slightly different-- The girls tend to be younger than Denny Park, but they probably have so much residue that they wouldn't pass the sniff test, and they can't wait to get back to their source to fix. They also tend to be less experienced and more desperate, a dangerous combination.
On Aurora I have gotten acquainted with a fair number of the girls, and I would guess that chances are at least 50% that a random SW is not holding either drugs or paraphrenalia. Of course, if you're worried, remember that there is almost a 50% chance she IS holding. The range of drugs on Aurora, on the other hand, varies widely: "Brain Dead Julie" and "Peaches" (to name two) probably smoke more grass in a day than I did in all of the Sixties, but I've never seen indications of any other drug. I've also never known either of them to be holding, and I must confess that in the remote and shameful past I've taken the opportunity to inspect every place Julie could have hidden it...
T-Man
Pitching a Tent
12-18-03, 23:09
With the nice weather and the sun shining brightly I thought it would be a perfect day to look for streetwalkers. I drove up and down Aurora a couple of times and Denny Park and I parked in the Hurricane parking lot for a while. I saw a few of those bottom feeders and nothing else. Jennifer was making her rounds but didn't want to go there.
Take it sleazy!
Xero242 Check your PM for info on Linda.
Cheers, HS
WhoAmi
Xero242
Linda typically strolls the farthest northern reaches of Aurora, just south of the dreaded Shoreline Gestapo border at 145th. She likes the west side of the street and prefers heading south. If you stop for a burger and then head south you'll have the best luck. She never passes the cemetery. She has a very definite, deliberate walk--arms crossed under breasts and no look back. She looks like a girl with some place to go. However, she is very good and picking up subtle signals. She is willing to walk the 1/2 block or go through the parking lot to meet you off the street, but don't expect a nod or a wave of the hand from her to acknowledge your signal. You have to make the active move like the turn and ambush at the cross street, where you can provide your signal and then move to a nearby safe pick up spot. She's very careful and knows what she's doing. If she doesn't bite in an obvious situation, look around, she probably sees a situation that you have missed.
Cheers, HS
Lookin for Stuff
12-19-03, 03:49
Drove through White Center around 7:30 pm on the 18th. I saw 1 WSW on main it was dark , but she didn't look to bad.
Came down Aurora 11pm not one the whole stroll.
What happened to Sparkle? Haven't seen her in her spot in a month or better.
BE SAFE
LFS
Titman Holy felines, Crack Monster Jen had been out there for 10 years?!? I can only imagine how she looked 10 years ago, must have been like a skanky prom queen. She is not bad looking, even now, and yes, great service. I had the misfortune of trying to get her out of my car while she's twitching and flexing. not a fun experience.
Sad, at her age she really should be in the prime of her life.
Thursday PM / Friday early AM:
Was down by Denny Park to run errands today. saw a WSW at the bus stop at 9th and John. (approx 4:30 pm) I thought she was waiting for a bus, but as a cycled through there the second time she made eye contact and gave me the hitchhiker's sign. I didn't pay too much close attention to looks, wasn't anything out of the ordinary, more like just your typial office worker in her late 30s or early 40s. Also saw a blonde SW by the church at 8th and Thomas. She was trying to negociate through an open passenger side window on the first pass (that's how I spotted her) and negociations seemed to have failed on the second pass. Newbies lurking, here's an easy question for ya, what mistake did this hobbist made? To have a girl stick her head into your window, her ass out in the side walk and you sitting there talking to her instead of paying attention to your surroundings is the equivalent of popping flares on a moonless night.
Later in the evening (approx 12:15am), went for a drive up and down Aurora. Registered one maybe at 145 and Shoreline, blonde girl, not skinny, not chubby, wearing a gray sweatshirt. She was waiting for the bus and by the time I had made a U-Turn 15 blocks away and back up the other side she was walking away from the bus stop. Eyecontact on both passes, but no smile. or "the look".
Saw a BSW at about 135th en route downtown. Provocatively dressed, I'd say maybe a 5 in looks (this is highly subjective). Wisdom distlled from these boards tell me that I shouldnt' partake. They are not my type anyway.
Cruised downtown. Saw 4 police cars en route, 2 were assisting at a traffic accident on Aurora bridge, and 2 were parked in a parking lot near the Shell at Aurora. Noted 1 BSW down by AAA, one WSW on 5th Ave 2 blocks from the Cinerama The WSW looked good, but I couldn't pry her away from her "friend". I wasn't 100% sure that she's working anyway, she tried to strike up conversation when I approached on foot, but I am kinda wary of the guy there.
On a second run up Aurora (circa 1:30 am) saw a femeline figure talking to the driver of a garbage truck in the shopping mall accross from KMart. Sensing something was up I detoured in to check. It was the original BSW I saw on my first pass.
Nothing again back downtown on my way home.
***
In my opinion, Denny stroll is the most visible. I dont' know about the workers there being bottom of the barrel, I've gotten good service from a majority of them, while my Aurora pickups had been 50-50 split between ok and downright shitty. As mentioned before Crack Monster Jen and goth girl can give fantastic BBBJs. For me, it had always been easier to pick up at Denny / Belltown than Aurora: higher ho density, more side alleys for discreet pickups and drops, and the area is one big patch on the map that you can thread your way through, where the Aurora stroll is a thin narrow stretch that's a few miles long. I started hobbying on the Denny stroll (on a bike, ah the days being a poor college student) and so it's kinda "home grounds" for me. I do realize it's more dangerous, more bike cops, and more alleys for cops to hide in to stake out the area too.
On any given day I am out I can always see newbie cruisers around that area. These are the guys that drive, Macy's parade fashion, through the blocks surrounding Denny Park. (God that clueless I *hope* they are newbies!). I think because of the high abundence of newbies, girls tend to cluster there too. There's always people willing to pay outrageous prices there.
Just my 2 longwinded cents. Stay safe out there.
-K
SweetWillyP
12-19-03, 07:43
Crackmonster Jen. aka TwistoflexJen,
I started seeing jennifer in 97, she just turned 23 a couple of weeks ago, you guys do the math! I will occasionally be desperete enough to get a bbbj from her. I have paid anywhere from $10 to 30$, as recently as a couple weeks ago.I remember when i first met her she was pretty hot.There use to be this redhead street walker named Rose that turned her out.The funny thing is that she comes from a very prominant Seattle family. The only reason why i know this is because I use to know the family. Anyway I will be off to another weekend in Vancouver tommorow.I hope everone is getting what they want out there seeya
SWP, I stand corrected. Make that six years, not ten. When I got to be older than the hills, the diff between five and ten faded.
By the way, I haven't seen Sparkle for about a month either, and I check her usual stroll three or four times a week.
And N.Discreet, could fake-cbj Faith be the sweet young thing from the 'Caine a few months ago? Did she wear glasses?
T-Man
N. Discreet
12-19-03, 16:41
Titman
No glasses on Faith. Reddish hair if that helps any.
Saw Sparkle out on Tuesday night but only during one pass her usual spot. She was wearing a black coat.
Like I said, there are some gems to be found in Denny Park, though I wouldn't exactly classify Jen as a gem. She does give excellent bbbj, however.
What worries me about Jen and Denny Park in particular is just how visible you are there. Like Battousai said there are innumerable places for LE to hide and observe. Every employee of the West Precinct probably knows Jen better than they know their own kids. A cop pulls up to you at a light and he instantly knows what is up. He also knows that Jen always (100% of the time) carries a crack pipe. He also knows Jen is in violation of her SOAP order giving him the PC to pull you over and search Jen. Given the recent Supreme Court decision, her crack pipe is now your crack pipe.
That's why (I may be in denial here) I prefer the relative annonimity of Aurora. It's easier to pick up on a side street where you might not be observed. Many of the girls (not all of course) are able to slip beneath the radar. Question: who would you rather get pulled over with in your car: LA Linda, Sparkle, Bonnie from Portland, or c-monster Jen by a West Precinct cop who's busted her 50 times before. No brainer. I like the park too, I just don't see a safe way to monger there. I do anyway, but risk and danger are part of the thrill for me.
I was out and about on lunch-hour today. Saw a tall and very pretty BSW on about 130th and Aurora. Gave me a big smile and eye contact. I also saw a rather chubby blonde near Burger Master and a couple of fair WSW's near the Denny Park playfields but they were too busy talking to their pimps to notice me. Didn't see anything else including South Park and Boulevard Park.
Happy Hunting!
Civ2K
Tube Steak
12-19-03, 19:52
If Jen is who I think it is (blondish, young) I dated her when she was living out of the sleazy motel on Aur. and 40th or so. That was a while ago, like 7yrs or so. Does she mention living in Tacoma w/ her SO?. If that's the one she is a tweaker and a half. She told me she was preggo last year. Whoo Boy. That would be a sad story.
Tube Steak
12-19-03, 20:20
Hey Snackman,
I remember the Pike/Pine stroll. Them was the days. 1st Ave was a good stroll too. Full of strip joints and sailor bars. Do you remember the "church" that had live sex? Man, that WAS a long time ago. I don't understand? I mentally feel like I'm 25, but I don't get the urge as often. I would go mongering like 3-5 times a week back then. Aurora was wide open back then. There were even good looking girls back then, I mean, crack wasn't a known entity. Smack just didn't seem to make the SP's look like death warmed up.
SweetWillyP
12-19-03, 21:33
Reality Check,
Remember if you are in any prostitution zone the likelyhood is good that you are being noticed, thats why I like Vancouver B.C. Just about Everyone cruising the low or mid tracks are johns and there seems to be a certain tolerance for cruising by the Police. These things are only what I have personally experianced. If you want to see a bunch of dumb a@ses, just park your car and take a walk around and see single males cruising around Denny park for hours. watch out for the hoodlums though.
Seeya
Head Snap,
Thanks for the info on Linda, and once again let me thank you all for your insight. From what it sounds like the good ol' Denny stroll should best be avoided.
Thanks again!
Xero242
Brethren:
Whenever I sense a disturbance in The Force, I seek spiritual counsel from my spiritual counselor, Aurora Linda No. 2.
That's a very awkward name, but she works Aurora near Winona and she was the second provider named Linda mentioned on this board. She is not LA Linda. She is also not blonde.
We parked and discussed many things. She asked my screen name. I told her. She said, "So THIS is the Trashmobile!" Yes, she does read this board.
First, the Sparkle mystery. Sparkle got a "straight" job in telephone sales about a month ago. Recently Sparkle has returned to working the area around Winona on weekends. She has to make a living.
Second, we discussed pricing. She said that most providers will make price concessions for mongers who intend to become regular clients. But recently she has had a couple of unsatisfactory experiences with mongers who make that promise and then don't come back. Speaking only from memory, of course, given my decision to abide by the fantasy world Greg Nickles thinks we live in, Linda is a reliable provider and provides a completely satisfactory service.
Third, we discussed potential marketing strategies for a world without Greg Nickles, in which the hobby is legal. Ethnically she considers herself Indian. She has been thinking about commercial messages: "Steel head's no good; copper head's no good; Indian head's the best." It's a start.
Let's be kind out there.
T-Man
Hello All: Last night there were hookers everywhere. This was from 10:00 to about 12:00.
First off Sparkle, Linda #2, and a blonde were all huddled together in a doorway just north of Winona. A couple of WSW's in the 95th to 105th area and about 6 of all persuasions in the N. 143rd neck of the woods. Three more in the AAA area but two police cruisers came in and the action dispersed. Two more at the Hurricane including one I thought was Alison. She almost got in and then I noticied it wasn't her so I pulled away. I hate doing that but at night it's reaally hard to tell.
Finally, I saw a couple more at the park. Decided I would return to Winona and pick up Sparkle who I haven't dated in a while but she was now long gone.
Can't figure out these gals. Last couple of days the weather was warm and dry and not a one to be found. Last night pouring down rain and LE out in force and they're all out.
Salivatore, Yes those were the days. It was called the Venusian Church. I think it moved to Redmond where I think it might still be listed in the phone book. t was as of a few years ago. And there was the girl dancing in the window next to the Champ Arcade. Lot's of live girl peep shows. It was great. I used to walk up Pike Street to Larry's Take-5 Broiler at 7th and Pike and back down to First. Lot's of nice, cheap, and sleazy motels to take your hooker. Were things really so bad then that the religious folk thought they must shut the area down? I think every town should have an area like that. Where prostitution and strip bars are not necessarily legalized but tolerated. The old combat zone in Boston is another good example. Then the police resources could be reallocated to pursuing real crime.
Civ2K
Champ arcade. I like it.
Remember the place upstairs? Live Girls? Late 80's. It was a strip club, but they had these funky rooms in the back where supposedly you got live shows, with the glass in between.
Except, you'd pick the girl, she'd pay the guy the show fee, and then sneak around to the front with you, and you'd get a real live show. BBBJ, FS, you name it.
I remember driving by once and the girls were outside trying to get the guys to come in. I just parked in the lot and invited one of them to join me in my van for a quickie. Wish that place was still open, instead of that place that's there now.
Still a Wildman
12-20-03, 21:03
Greetings,
Very long time lurker, posted long ago like a different lifetime.
Cruised from Federal Way to Denny Saturday afternoon. Slim pick'ins. Detoured to White Center where there was a decent looking W or H SW rather tall and reasonable decent looking for the area walking south past the fruit stand and even past the donut shop. She was walking towards me there but was intercepted by a different guy in a red car that looked like he could've been Ridgeway's bother (really no joke).
Very little in Denny area so far this afternoon.
Still a Wildman
12-20-03, 21:16
The AMP with no name in Bellevue, like 103rd and 10th.
I too met the girl who is leaving back to LA. No trouble getting her to offer up, however like the previous poster said she maneuvered herself every which way to avoid any contact with me during the massage portion. Had on a lot of heavy clothes during the massage and I really doubted anything else was going to happen.
Good BBBJ and FS for 1.00 + the door. Rather than finish her massage as the other poster received, she hopped up and cuddled and stroked me. Got me thinking second cup, but then said more would be coming if she got dinner (as they were closing). Passed, as it was getting late.
Damned if I cannot remember her name, though she is probably gone back to LA now. I believe the earlier post might've had it.
Unusual place, no sign, no "open" light, no shower offered and even sort of a daytime only suite of businesses. In other words it was very hard to tell it was open in the dark. That may be a strength though.
Ah, the old days! Civ2K, I think there were two: The Venusian Church and the Temple of Aphrodite on First. A contrast between the Roman and Greek, as it were.
And I don't think the bluenoses closed things down so much as land use planning. Now Pike Street is for upscale shoppers and First has become a row of upscale condos. *SIGH*
Lemme see. Some smaller memories: The Spot-Nik Bar-Be-Que actually had pretty good food, for a restaurant less than five feet wide.
And Pike was that wonderful carnal restaurant where you got whatever you wanted, including Alice. One of the things that offended the bluenoses was that the girls would ask any guy if he was dating. As if anyone went there for any other reason. Alas, we won't see its like again. Except maybe, Lynnwood has the potential, but no providers. Damn! That's a joke, of course. Too much big hair in Lynnwood.
T-Man
Tube Steak
12-21-03, 00:43
Yeah, I did a good one in front of that little store on Pike?Pine?. There was a SW dressed in full regalia and I was rubbernecking her and unfortunately so was the guy in front of me. He stopped and I didn't. Fortunately he had a tow hitch and I drove off with my front bumper looking like a bow tie. He didn't give a shit, was as embarassed as I was.
Those were the good ole pre-AIDS days, I might add.
brethren:
it's been a few hours, and i'm just chatting up a storm out here.
salivatore, i think we are talking about the same jen, although i hadn't heard about her living in tacoma. she did have a baby about six months ago, and she is indeed a tweaker and a half.
as civ2000 mentioned, we grow our hoes waterproof around here. about midnight amber was available for business at 41st and aurora. we need to keep an eye out for our providers. i also saw a straggle of sws strung out (and not-so-strung-out) from winona up to 145th
i decided to do some fine dining from the north aurora jack in the box, and i parked in a lot at what would be 132nd or 133rd, on the west side of aurora. i was clogging my arteries with a jumbo jack, listening to the bbc in the trashmobile, when a young lady(?) knocked on the window and asked for a ride. i wasn't shopping and i explained that to her, but she(?) really only wanted a ride to a nearby 7-11, which i obliged her(?) with. her name is anne and i have seen her several times: tall, thin bsw. but the reason for all those question marks is that anne reminds me of the few male-to-female transexuals i have known. i don't know whether i'm quite ready for that experience. does anyone know more about anne?
finally (don't geezers ever stop writing?) before we leave the stroll down memories of pike street, there are a couple of things i want to say.
since gary ridgeway has been in the news several pundits have associated prostitution and mongering with somehow "helping" ridgeway. i cannot recall a single green river victim who disappeared from pike street, although that is certainly possible. i do recall that his first victim, a refugee from the soviet union named almitra aggaschiff, was taken by him while she walked down union street from third to first to catch a bus. it is likely she didn't understand a word he said. i have often wondered if he was scared off by all the people on pike.
the other thing i wanted to say was that there were dark sides to pike street, many of them from law enforcement. over the years i have known three women who started working on pike as **** sws and who ran into the revised version of the old spd payoff system. after a session of terrorizing a "newbie" the local cops would trade off periodic favors for tips on when vice was organizing an operation. i also heard tales, though not first hand, that the vice unit officers would occasionally take troublesome sws out to issaquah, take their clothes, and leave them.
remember, nothing matters but kindness.
t-man
Last night I had my first encounter with Fur Hat Kelly. Like everyone has said she looks like a young hip gal on her way to a club or something. She was walking down Aurora near Oak Tree Plaza reading a book. She got in and I said "hi, you must be Kelly." She looked rather surprised and I said I had read about her here.
She immediately said she only does oral CBJ (no FS) and needed a .40 donation. Talked her down a bit and had an overall good experience. Definately a cut above most and seems a bit intellectual (I like that). She also said she is a pro-dominatrix and has an ad in the stranger under "Mistress Kelly".
Civ2K
Saturday night looked like a slim pickins kind of night from 11pm til 2 am. I started my search in north Aurora (145) down to AAA and AMP area with only a couple of sightings and no girl that peaked my interest. Finally around 2 am I see Kathy an old friend that I have talked to before just north a block from AMP at her favorite corner. So we get together for a real good talk. One thing about Kathy I like is in the year or so from our first meeting to now she has not changed much and may be one of the few SW's out there not on any serious drugs thats ruining her mind and body. Always a good attitude with a good 7 for looks (cleanliness does count) and reasonable rates.
T-Man
Is Amber a brunette, skinney, but not crack ho skinney, with some native american in her and pretty cute? I remember a good talk with her but have not seen her lately, lives in Fremont close by that 37th to 45th stroll. And about Anne, I have seen her quite often by the donut shop bus stop and my impression of her? is the same but I think many years ago I did talk to her and was not disappointed but her looks do throw me off and she did claim to be all woman ( I did ask) and felt to make sure.
Play safe
Tube Steak
12-22-03, 02:11
Boy, that would be something if Jen was related to an upstanding family. I'll bet I dated her a few times her first week in the biz. You know, I've never even asked for FS from her. I don't know why that is. I guess cause I've seen her pimp . On the other hand, she sure knows how to wax a rocket. She used to have this outfit that unzipped from neck to crotch. Anyone ever see that? I think I asked her once if she spoke greek and the answer was NO. Times could be harder now. Anyone?
On shoppimg---you know, it's funny that if a service provider has been around a while, they don't appeal to me that much, but there are a few I look for. There used to be this older SW I looked for-maybe she wasn't that old, but a lot of miles-She gave the best BBJ EVER. She would take it the root and swirl her tongue around and around. If only she could give lessons Haven't seen her in ages. Alright enough for now
S
Still a Wildman
12-22-03, 03:24
Regarding blasts from the past,
Remember the old donut shop at 1st and Pike. A buddy turned me on to this one. As we were late teenage, some of the runaway type young kids that congregated there at the time would do most anything for a little food and a place to crash and some attention and a couple of bucks.
Those were pre-mongering days and we were kids too. The game was to act more like down on your luck kids rather than the college freshman we were. I was rather intimidated by the real pros at the time.
hooked up with LALinda today durng the afternoon. Decided to pay a bit more for a room and actually enjoy ourselves. It was worth it. Great, classy lady, actually can carry on a conversation, .6 for 1/2-1/2, unrushed, fs in multipe positions. Definately will repeat. Thx LFS for the contact info.
Monday Aurora about 5:30 PM: Kelly was out with a big shopping bag headed north on Aurora. She didn't last long, I did a three block circle and she was gone. I am going to have to concentrate on hooking up with her after the recent posts. There was a new, slightly heavy set redhead booking down the east side along the cemetery but by the time I made a turn at the donut mega-shop she was gone. Finally, I headed south and saw a mutt and Jeff couple of WSWs, one pretty big, tall, with nice rack, blonde ponytail, the other very short, maybe 5' or less with long blonde hair headed south past the Oak Tree. I made good eye contact with both girls on my slow cruise north. By that time I was out of playing time but still made and circle south and then again west and connected at 97th on a side street ambush course. They crossed right in front of my car and the big blonde first stared straight ahead chatting with the shorter girl, then right in front of my car she slowly did a half turn smiled and pulled her jacket down to reveal a great 1/2 rack in a tight halter top. She licked her lips, never missed a step and continued on south. Oh well, it got the right affect and I am sure one of you other guys made the score.
Cheers, HS
Lookin for Stuff
12-23-03, 00:45
Battousai,
You are welcome . What a pleasure huh? I have misplaced her digits if you could pm them back I would be in your debt.
Be Safe
LFS
Brethren:
For my spiritual needs I visit Linda #2, but for police gossip I visit my old friend Tommy, a/k/a Peaches, a/k/a Babyface out on North Aurora.
This evening she advised me that the intense coverage around Denny Park and the AMP results from a series of rapes in one of the park restrooms. I had noticed that coverage was pretty tight until Saturday or so.
She also tells me that North Precinct is using older officers, not the usual newbies, to entrap our quail, and LE is using undercover cars, particularly a dark brown Ford Taurus with exempt plates. There is also a strangely configured white Chevrolet widebody van, blocked windows and a goofy antenna on the back. Either LE or a younger Ridgeway warming up.
Keep your eyes open and be safe out there.
T-Man
If you're planning to travel to Vancouver for a little mongering, be careful. The rate of syphilis is soaring. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/cpress/20031221/ca_pr_on_na/syphilis_outbreak_1
Reading Titman's report reminded me of something I wanted to say in my last post. While talking to Kelley, she had mentioned that there were John stings going on most of last week in the vicinity of Oak Tree Plaza. She said most of the time the decoy would walk up to the driver's window and trick the guy into making some kind of offer and then agree to meet him in the parking lot. Gold's Gym parking lot was mentioned. Then they would surround the guy. I've successfully driven away from three stings in my mongering career and believe me those policewomen are tricky.
Oosikmans link to the syphilis epidemic makes me want to avoid Vancouver. I believe its transmissable through bbbj. In a strange twist of fate I think the illegality of prostitution in Seattle is responsible for our lower rates. Everytime one of our Denny Park/Hurricane or any of our SW's get arrested and booked into the King County jail for prostitution they get tested and treated for the usual STD's and get an HIV test. Someone like c-monster Jen who gets arrested a couple of times a month gets tested all the time. In some places (I don't know about Seattle) its a felony if you get caught working as a prostitute if your HIV positive. Does anyone know if this is true in Seattle?
I did notice that the one SW who was rumored to have HIV on this board, really hides when she's working. In doorways and off the main strolls. And when she does get busted she is gone for a long time. Whereas she used to strut all over the place. Anyway, just some thoughts from this monger. The other night I saw Linda (1960's vintage) at her usual spot for a long time without getting picked up. This is too bad because she is nice, gives great service, and all at a value price.
Happy Hunting and Happy Holidays!
Civ2K
I'm sorry, maybe I'm being a little overly sensitive but do we think that the Ridgeway references are really appropriate or in good taste. I have seen a number of these in the past weeks and each time, my first though about the author is "moron". Can we please show just a little class. Ridgeway killed at least 48 people, not just ******, people. Just my thought.
Michael1967
12-23-03, 19:58
In many countries where prostitution is legal and licensed you wouldn't have that problem. In Honduras, the "real" working women carry a "license" that identifies them (so if they rob you, you have their license number...I guess), age and when the last time they were tested for STDs (the women I spoke to, said they had to go once each month). If they had an STD or HIV they were no longer allowed to have a license. Honduras has a huge rate of HIV (and estimated 33% in some of the larger cities)Screwing a hooker was safer than screwing the normal girls in town. I know because I caught my first STD from a devout, conservative Christian girl in Honduras (those religious chicks can really screw). I now use condoms for sex no matter what. If I stuck with a hooker, I would at least have known she had been tested.
Good points Michael, Sad fact is however that no matter how much sense it makes, prostitution will probably never be legal in
Seattle, at least in our lifetimes. And street prostitution will never be legal ever. So at least our system of arresting prostitutes and compelling them to test has resulted in way lower rates of HIV and syphilis in our SW's than in our sisters to the north. In Vancouver as far as I know, very few SW's get tested until they become symtomatic and by that time they've infected hundreds, if not thousands. They are rarely arrested and testing is voluntary, so many if not most would rather not know. IMHO of course. I could be wrong and often am.
Civ2k
Bolide, I must be one of the morons bothering you by mentioning the recent events concerning Seattle's most prolific serial killer. The fact was that he prowled the less-busy strolls. He intended to kill prostitutes, and about half the time he did. In case I haven't been clear, I suggest that other mongers follow my example and keep their eyes open. Among other things, I copy license numbers and vehicle and driver descriptions while I'm watching the girls in case things happen. If we are going to do business with these girls, it is important that we do what we can to protect them.
T-Man
Un_Circumcised
12-24-03, 01:35
I wouldn't get too freaked-out about the syphilis epidemic in Vancouver's Downtown Eastside: I've had intercourse with over 100 Vancouver low-track ho's since circa 1990 (a large percentage of them since the syphilis outbreak took hold in 1998), and I'm still STD-free. But I've always used condoms, and I suspect the vast majority of the johns who caught syphilis did not. In my opinion, a greater threat for American johns visiting Canada is the US Protect Act which became law this year: It allows the US federal government to prosecute any US citizen caught with an under-18 ho in a foreign country--with a potential 30-year prison term and $250,000 fine. This is far more than the 0-5 years that we are subjected to under Canadian law (incidentally, the age of consent for nonpaid sex in Canada is 14). So far, the Protect Act has only been used to target American men caught with children and teens younger than 16 in notorious child-sex countries like Cambodia, but there is nothing in the law to stop the feds from applying it to a US john busted with a 17-year-old ho in Vancouver. Whether they have (or will ever have) the resources to pursue every violation of this type, I doubt, but everyone should be aware of the risk. You can read the Protect Act on my legal page (http://www.geocities.com/un_csd/legal.html#BC), and there are two articles about it on my news page (http://www.geocities.com/un_csd/news.html) (Man faces federal charges in U.S. for having sex with 15-year-old in Cambodia, U.S. Protect Act could threaten men who travel to Canada for lolitas).
Tube Steak
12-24-03, 15:58
Was in the big city yesterday. Cruised down around noon and proceeded south on Aurora. Nada, zip. Came back up at 4:00 and there was a herd of cows between 90th and 100th. Big ones. I saw the SW I mentioned from a few weeks ago that I thought looked good from afar,in the dark and drunk. Well, let me tell you , no too good in the light, close up and sober. Blond with dark or gray roots, pretty large. Did not warrant using up any brake pad for.
Up at 125th was a slimmer SW with pigtails and a white top. Did not partake, was mostly shopping.
Went for beverages with friends and should not have been driving (again).
I was going to get on up the road, but couldn't help myself. At 3:30am at the Walgrens (seems like no one out but she and I) Kathy (late 20's, blondish) hops in. --.3 BJ, up to .4 BBBJCIM. What can I say, I was under the influence. Nice firm bod, B/C cup. Offered full service for .6 or w/ greek for 1.00. The Bj was great. Sloppy, good DT skills. Declined the extras. No extra to finger the shaved puss and ass. She says she makes good money at that hour. I guess. No one else out. Insomniacs. Anyways, good service, good attitude.
Still a Wildman
12-24-03, 17:31
I perceive that the "Ridgeway comment" and "moron reference was directed at me.
I know, as well as all of you, that the vast majority of the SW's are abusers and some are in need of their next fix. At the same time, whether on the street or in business, someone that looks "off" or not normal usually isn't. Anyone that has spent any time on the street, on some level or another, knows that those on the street are very wary of those people thought to be somewhat crazy. Conversation with SW's almost often include some warning about a thieving ***** or a crazy one. As some have said, the girls are in a very vulnerable position and in the end, only they can try to protect themselves. There are alot of mongers out there, all I meant was they SW's should exercise the best judgement they can and avoid weird looking ugly suckers.
I also realize most of you think what I wrote was is stupid.
As for a report, I tried the Weekly and used Kat and Faith's ad for hot tub and massage. A repeat performance, I posted on the latter gal previously on the closed TRB board. Interesting fact is that the hot-tub is outside in view of several neighbors and we both are nude. Kat is mid 30's medium to slim and dark hair. 1.50 gets a massage and hj and a little tlc. Other FBSM and AMP's are better values with more attractive providers.
The street scene in Denny and up Aurora through 145th appears slower than what I thought, given alot of real part-timers come out of the woodwork during holiday times.
Peace and a Merry Christmas to you all
I had a dream a couple of days ago.
I was driving along Aurora and spotted Fur Hat Kelly. All descriptions of her here were very accurate. Slender, well dressed, and of course, the trademark hat.
I dreamt that I navigated my car to a proper location and when she approached, she decided to get in. "You must be Kelly", I said, to which she laughed and replied "How do you know?" I told her about this board, and she said she's heard of it before...it certainly broke the ice.
Anyway, as mentioned earlier, she quoted .4 for CBJ, which is all she does...she led me to a secluded spot where I enjoyed an enthusiastic performance. Afterwards, we talked for a few minutes, and in that time I could tell she was a very intelligent person who is a rarity on the street...a clean, smart, LADY who is so out of place there it's unbelievable. When she gets her website going for FBSM and DOM services, she will do fine.
My dream ended then and there. if you are lucky enough to meet Kelly, mention this board, and treat her with the utmost respect. Perhaps you will have a similar dream.
BigIrv
EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions to remove the multiple periods at the ends of sentences. To avoid future delays, please use just one period followed by a space at the end of sentences in future reports. Thanks!
Tight Grip
12-25-03, 12:58
Hello fellow mongers,
I'm new to the board but not to the scene. Just thought I would tell about my most recent adventure. I was out Monday in the Aroura area for a meeting. About 5:30 pm I saw the two sw's head snap wrote about in his post. I mase good eye cantact and did the side street ambush move that we all know and love. The shorter girl (the one I was going for) wanted to approach however it looked like the bigger gal was keeping her from coming over. I cruised a bit more just checking out the sites. I saw two ladies that were a 9 and 10 on the scale both white sitting at the bus stop with their pimp across the street from the Taco Bell/Pizza Hut building. I went in for a bite to eat and as I returned they were gone. I parked on 98th to eat before I had to be at my meeting and the shorter of the first two girls approached. She got in the car and we talked for a while. Her name is Monica and she is very sweet. She offered cbj for .4, she said she woud do fs for .20 more. She was very nice and liked to talk, I detected no intoxication and she has a good head on her shoulders. I was shocked when she said she had benn doing this for years, I would have never suspected she would have been a sw. As I was driving off I saw fur hat Kellly and ade a loop back to try and intercept but she was gone quick and I had to be off to my meeting. Well hapy hunting and keep posting. Oh yeah Monica said she would be out again Friday night then she would be out of town for new years.
el Gringo Norte
12-26-03, 13:55
I found this list of "Do's & Dont's on another board. Thought it was worth sharing:
Rule #1 When I am done, GET OUT OF MY CAR!
Rule #2 See rule #1, just needs to be said twice
Rule #3 If you think you are going to light the pipe in my ride, think again.
Rule #4 If You need a ride at the end and I am feeling gracious enough to bend rule #1, it better be close, and you better know where the hell you are going.
Rule #5 I am not as comfortable as you with my status as a 'john', this means yelling to your your cracker-jack friends out my window will get you no where fast.
Rule #6 I am paying you, at the very least act interested.
Rule #7 Acting like a Jerry Springer guest on crank is not cool, stop freaking out.
Rule #8 I have good eyesight, I don't need you to jump up and down, wave, send up flares, etc. before I pick you up. If I drive by you and pass you up, its becuase A) Not interested B) I'm busy C) You have a face/body that could stop a clock D) You look like Steve Buscemi on glue-bender. make eye contact.. thats all I need and thats all I prefer. I may well drive by a few times, it's all about my comfort level.
Rule #9 If you give me lack luster service, you will compensated accordingly. I mean really, is this why you are doing what your doing, did the formula for success as a waitress truly baffle you?
Rule #10 Act polite, small talk relaxs everyone involved. Small talk about your court date for felony assault doesn't.
Rule #11 Asking me if I am the police is about the stupidest thing I have ever heard of. Reach over and give me a gentle squeeze, thats the proof (or hey, at least it works for me.)
Rule #12 You need to supply the condoms, not me. I can't have that shit hanging around my car. I don't bring my own sugar for my coffee at Denny's.
Rule #13 State the way you want me to 'release' before hand...
Rule #14 Wash that funky ass (thanks net pro..good call)
Rule #15 Its my car, don't change the radio stations, adjust the seats or anything that I will have to reset later (or alternately forget to reset and have to answer the questions like 'Who adjusted this seat?')
Rule #16 I'm not sure about anyone else, but I will NEVER pick up a girl whos' pimp/boyfriend/WTF ever is following, lose the dude and we can do business. (If Cameron Diaz was turning tricks in Gastonia and her pimp was with her, I swear I would drive on by...)
Rule #17 Put out the cigarette..... unless you're like me and smoke in which case feel free (to smoke your own)
Rule #18 If you rip me off, I will make it my lifes work to find you and run you over. Lest you forget, you are a street WALKER, I am a street DRIVER, you must see the advantages of my situation.
Rule #19 GET OUT OF MY CAR WHEN I AM DONE!!
eGN
Tight Grip:
They weren't lying to you, both Monica and the big girl were out on Aurora beginning about 3:00 OM on Friday. Titman may want to check out the bigger gal as she flashed a pretty good looking boob the other night. Christina was working the Oak Tree, an older, hard looking blonde was working Gold's Gym and that super skinny BSW with the reddish black braids and white down jacket was working the Rite Aid. Gee, I wonder if anybody was running an after Chistmas special. I was pinched for time and couldn't play.
Happy New Year Everybody,
Cheers, HS
Lookin for Stuff
12-26-03, 21:09
First let me say Merry Christmas and a Happy mongering New Year.
Went for a ride around 3pm 12/26 saw LA Linda. Pulled over to see what was up. Had a nice chat gave her a ride to 7/11. She wants to say thanks to all you guys who have treated her with respect. And any of you that have called and missed a connection to please try again.
Saw that same WSW that I reported a week or so back, petite, long blonde older lookin gal, carries a day pack and walks quickly.
Also was in White Center this morning saw WSW around 30ish standing at the bus stop near the Chevron station, gave me the nod but I was on my way somewhere.
BE SAFE
LFS
Howdy fellas, I usually keep company with the fine ladies to the north, but tonight they were either to cold, or Sgt. Stadanko was harassing them.
So I cruised on down to Aurora just past the Edmonds cutoff and ran into Monica. Now Monica is just a bit chubby, some might say fat, but she was very nice and had a great attitude.
She did a different kind of "check" on me other than the skin to skin that I am used to. She had me drive into Edmonds on the theory that the local police couldn't or wouldn't cross city boundaries.
Anyway, 1/2 and 1/2 for .50 But she told me something interesting that I thought I would pass on. I guess there is a SW on Aurora named Avis that is HIV positive and is trying to pass it on through unprotected sex. Now I know that this might just be BS, and or that "Avis" isn't the only one who could be HIV +, and that everyone here is practicing safe sex..., but I figured I would pass it on anyway.
-A
Tight Grip
12-27-03, 12:25
Monica told me about Avis and the HIV thing too. I didn't want to mention it because all I could remember was that her name started with an A and I didn't want to ruin any business for all women with the names that start with A. Also I know everyone is wearing their safety gear right?
Stay Safe,
TG
Still a Wildman
12-27-03, 18:22
Just made a run throught the Denny area (2:00 pm) and it was very dead. Between the cold and the rain perhaps that's understandable.
Realizing I am paying more that street prices for somewhat less service, I still am fond of the FBSM joints that've popped up thought town. From the Weekly, Avalon, Earthangels, Light Body and most Indy practioners based in Lynwood are for real.
The positive, usually attractive and clean women in a very safe enviroment. Frequently a very good massage combined with a HJ finish (sometimes a tad more).
The negative, of course is no FS or even BJ.
Avoid Rio at Avalon
Anyone at Earthangels is fantastic.
Light Body has a web-site with accurate pics. I cansay that the "more experienced" looking women there tend to give the best service vs. the younger and prettier ones.
Truly avoid Tantra by Joy. Very costly for a 50+ yo with glove service.
Road trip south to Tacoma, unless better offer inside awaits.
Cricket Dick
12-28-03, 03:02
Was out on the prowl tonight and was fortunate enough to meet up with Fur Hat Kelly. Near Oak Tree about 9 PM. Everything said on this board is indeed true and then some. Very good looking, intelligent, and a total fiend for the flesh. Take Big Irv's advice and treat her well. Thanks all for the postings, it's nice to see all of the activity here.
Yes, the upstairs at Lou's Arcade was a great place to visit. As was My Place down south and Goodtime Charlie's in Woodinville. Anybody remember the name of the club that used to be in Factoria? Unbelievable women in that place.
c-dick
Personally I think that anything negative one SW says about another should be taken with a grain of salt. This is a fairly cutthroat business they're in and a lot of them simply hate each other.
That being said, anyone who has picked up more than 5 or 10 SW's off Aurora in their mongering careers has undoubtedly picked up someone who is HIV positive. To think otherwise is to be living in a world of denial. Be safe, keep it wrapped, watch your diet, and all should be fine.
Civ2K
Lookin for Stuff
12-28-03, 19:51
12/28 2-3pm
Cruised Aurora counted no fewer than 8 absolute SW's and 3 possibles. The sun sure brings them out.
Lisa is back, HSW in her 20's smells of smoke , always.
She looked rugged had a black eye down by 97-100th ave. I stopped talk to her for a minute,said she'd been in jail. saw another HSW same area was scooped up quick.Same lil petite older gal down on the west side near chinesse resteraunt.
Further N. Saw younger HSW walking near Block buster , then she hooked up with a BSW at the donut shop across the street.Both were early 20's.
Saw Theresa on her stroll cute gal WSW in her late 30's maybe tight bod.She strolls from 145th to 130th and back the other side.
Saw LA Linda on 140th pulled over and chatted to her, she'll be out till night falls.
BSW on the return so. near the cemetery.
To Bad im strapped coulda had a heck of a day.
BE SAFE
LFS
Hello All,
I took to the streets today in search of a good bbbj. I must say it has been elusive lately. At Denny Park there were three police cruisers parked inside the park and a fourth driving around the stroll. I drove out to Aurora and spotted a fine looking HSW at Harrison and Aurora. I circled the block and she had already been picked up and a police car was following them. I jetted up north and saw several between Winona and 145th but didn't pick up any. I was about to give up when I spotted LA Linda.
For .30 I got one of the best bbbj's ever. Drove around quite a while looking for the right spot and not one complaint out of her. Friendly, talkative, and definately service-oriented. We talked about this board and she said she had gotten quite a few calls lately and wasn't sure if she wanted me to give out her number to anyone else. She asked me if I was a Senior Member: I answered "yes I am and it's the crowning achievement of my life". We both got a good laugh out of that. She said in that case feel free to give my number out to other senior members that I know. Problem is that I got home and realized I could not locate the number. If anyone wants to PM me with it I would appreciate it.
Thanks,
Civ2K
Clyde the Glide
12-29-03, 13:44
I've been lurking in the weeds and working on my masters paper at Edmonds CC, here's an excerpt:
12/28/03, 1-3PM
Nice day for a drive so I headed south on north Aurora. There before me was a cute, young BSW, white parka, tight jeans, SB on west side at N137th. Continued south and found a 50ish, thin, might have left her teeth at home, WSW working west side at N90th. Was entertained at that light by another WSW, red head, staggering across while losing a vocal arguement with herself. Too nice a day for desperation so I headed north and at first thought a 40ish lady, determined walker, in black with backpack and umbrella was a local shopper, the eventual come hither look said otherwise.
Took a look at downtown around the 'cain. Lots of street action but no prospects, maybe I didn't look hard enough, rolled back up Aurora. Just south of B'master, east side found a hefty brunette WSW walking and looking, walking and looking. Too obvious and my car is too small.
At N135 east side noticed a brunette, pale blue coat, SB, smiling like she wants you to buy her a lollipop but without enough sense to step off Aurora into any of the side streets/parking lots. Stopping on Aurora with a butt sticking out your passenger window does so enrage the bible thumpers especially when they just got the sunday sermon.
Tried to get her attention but she continued south and hooked up with the lady in the white parka. I decided to take the white parka for an interview. Made arrangements quickly off street near 125th and departed the area. Her friend's name is Mandy, her name is Melissa, british/jamacian accent, from San Diego ("is it always so cold around here?"), shy and quiet, 21 yo, slender, great ass, perky b/c tits, wants $ for sex but takes less, didn't get beyond bbbj/cim. Nice technique, acknowledged the twins, life is good.
Tally 6 ladies strolling a beautiful north Seattle day!
Enjoy,
Clyde
Thanks to all who PM'ed me LaLinda's phone number. Much appreciated and I will try and return the favor.
Civ2K
Welcome to the board, Clyde. I wish you the best of luck with your "master's paper" research.
I've been surprised at the number of providers out there, considering the temps have been barely up to the low 30s for several days. Brrrr! When it gets this cold I like to keep the Trashmobile uncomfortably (for me) warm to provide a refuge for birds who need to warm up fast.
Like other recent posters, I've noticed more activity from noon to sunset than later, quite the opposite of the summer months. Of course, in summer the sun doesn't set until 9:30 or so.
And since the question of Avis has come up, maybe we should have another HIV discussion? Or not? Keeping it covered is a good rule. I agree with Civ2K about the odds-- Anyone who thinks you get HIV by shaking hands probably isn't out on Aurora, anyway. But it's a very good reason not to accept a "taste" of a provider's drug of choice.
T-Man
I took a little trip to Vancouver BC and was amazed at the opportunity there. It really has spoiled me for the Seattle girls for awhile. I literally saw over 50 women in one hour or less. There are a few blocks where there were at least 6 girls, and that went on for 3 or 4 blocks. It was crazy! I interviewed a couple to get a feel for the rates. First one quoted 20 for bj, 30 for fs, 40 for h/h. I thought it was just a fluke so I said thanks but no thanks and interviewed another, with the same rates quoted. Hmmmm.....I thought. I cruised around looking for the best I could find. Since this really isn't the place for a VanBC trip report I'll leave it at that and wrap it up by saying I had one of the best nights of my mongering life. I'll be heading up there much more often. fyi, the updated info on Uncirc's site was spot on.
Tight Grip
12-30-03, 21:31
Hello fellow mongers,
I went out round 5pm yesterday on Aroura. No action around Denny park (I think I just don't know where to look) and only one or two on north Aroura. There was a blonde with a light blue jacket on looks about mid-30's. I also saw a younger white gal with glasses In a full length jacket with a furry hood. I couldn't get an acknowledgement from her when I passed. She was pretty skinny and looked like she was on the stroll. I saw her in front of Oak Tree and she was walking north. Anyone have any idea who this would be? Also since I am kind of new to the area does anyone have any info on other websites like this one that would have info on the local providers? And on a more serious subject there seemed to be a larger than usual number of LE out yesterday.
Be Safe
TG
what happened to thereviewboard.net?
After the GOE fiasco I believe Tahoe Ted took it down. It will be back though he said.
SeattleGman
12-31-03, 01:28
I cruised the Aurora stroll last night between 8-10PM and I think I spotted LALinda, but I am not sure (can someone confirm that was her?). She was hanging around 135th near the Ivars intersection at about 9PM. A little chubbyish blonde gal. I have seen the same girl before near the Oak Tree area as stated as being LALinda's hangout.
Also saw another young blonde with her hair tightly pulled back at about 95th, but 2 other mongers were already swooping in for the attack so I passed. Really nice looking.
I ended picking up Amber near Winona for 30 FS less BJ. She says that she is 33, but she looked more like 43. The service was rushed and wouldn't recommend her to others. Laid there like a dead fish. Didn't see a lot of variety last night.
Tube Steak
12-31-03, 16:09
Geronimo,
You only confirm what I've said before. The Vancouver scene is sooo good. Most nights 20- 40 girls to pick from. A little patience gets you some 9's. A little less gets you good $15 head in US dollars. If you think about cruising Aurora for 3 hrs. and settling for someone you wouldn't do in daylight, when you can have your pick in a more LE friendly, more GFE environment in 15-30 mins. What are you waiting for?
It's New Years and not having a date I'm counting on having my little friend in a warm wet place at midnight. In Van city. Hope all the good ones aren't taken.
Happy hunting in the new year.
S
Tight Grip, the blonde in the light blue jacket was probably Tommy, a/k/a Peaches, a/k/a Babyface, a very long-time Seattle area provider who doesn't use the "heavy" drugs and works near the Black Angus/Krispy Kreame area. She's nice to talk with. I don't know the other one you mentioned.
SeattleGMan, welcome to the Amber experience (snicker). She's mostly fun for her imaginative way of establishing price (Small loan? Will act as guide?) and not for her service provision. And I don't know if LA Linda gets as far north as 135th; I didn't think so. You and I both have a fondness for chubby blondes. Or at least one chubby blonde.
Last night the snow wasn't much of a problem to drive in, but it did discourage the providers. And like others on the board, I've noticed a lack of activity around Denny Park. My guess is that some of the regulars are caged at the moment, because usually nothing keeps them in.
T-Man
Titman and Seattle G, I do think that was La Linda he saw. The other day when I nabbed her it was in the Blockbuster parking lot at 137th and Aurora. She's been working that area. And she does seem to be getting kinda chubby (more so) these days. She's probably eating good with all these mongers calling her voice mail. You know I got ten responses from my query all from members giving me her phone number. This board is great and you guys are great!
Happy Hunting and Happy New Year!!!
Civ2K
P. S. La Linda said that after dark and late night hours she has been working Pacific Highway in SeaTac between S. 170th and 200th. I never see much in that area anymore so I'm sure she would stand out.
re TheReviewBoard.net being taken down because of the "GOE fiasco;" what's GOE?
GOE is Garden of Eden, which was busted about a month or two ago for allegedly being a house of prostitution. RTFF (this one's in the list of terms and abbreviations link at the top of the page).
Tube Steak
01-01-04, 05:08
Ok, 12:40 am New Years day and still sober. How sad. Here's the Vancity Report. Did not not keep my resolution. Just couldn't wait 'til midnight. The vitamin V kinda changed my tune. Took it at the border crossing.
Went directly to Chinatown at 6PM. Did one circuit of the low stroll, including all the nooks and crannies. That is the indutrial area north and east of C-town. Lots of skanky out there and very few gems. Maybe only 25 providers altogether. Crappy weather (big slush) and New Years, what can you expect? Second time was the charm, found a really attractive native gal. Seattleites only have the Pioneer Square types ,so the opposite of them. H&H .4 Kinda substandard though. Nice enough, no rush, but CBJ is not my thing. The VD epidemic has everyone scared, good reason . On to the main course, she just laid there. Made a lot of appropiate noises though. I mean she got wet too, but I might not of even been there,ya know? The thing was she was sociable before and after. I said she didn't look like a cracker. She said she was a bad alcoholic. Got sick if she didn't have a drink in the morning. 26 yrs. old. Looked pretty good, even up close. Pretty flabby all over. I guess too much booze. I think she said her name was Genera or something.
I went cruising directly after, (good ole vitamin V) and found a real 9, but I am too tired to continue so I'll finish this tommorrow.
S.
LE Report
I saw what appeared to be a monger and ho in a dark blue Toyota Corolla pulled over at the 7-11 at Aurora and Winona this evening at 8:00 or so.
The Toyota was parked on the North side of the building, the cop car was behind it, blocking it in. I saw the cops go into the parking lot with their lights on, but could not tell from where I was if they followed the car in there, or if the cops simply pulled in on a parked car.
As I drove by both cops were out and it appeared they were doing an ID check as one stood on either side of the car. The cop car was a dark fullsized cruiser, but generally unmarked. LE had the jackets with 'POLICE' written on them in white so they weren't the regular beat cops.
Take it easy guys and be careful!
i25
15th Ave NW stroll not a myth?
As some of you know I live near 15th.. about one block off of it. The other night while my friends and I were heading out for a late dinner we saw a monger drop off a blonde SW right up the block from my house. Crazy!
Anyway, I haven't had time to cruise lately but tonight I might go check the scene. I have made a promise to myself to try furhat Kelly the next time I see her. I keep 40$ in the glove box just in case.
Pietro (and others who doubt),
I suspect I've been called many things for filing reports on 15th Northwest ("Moron" being one of the milder ones) but for someone willing to adapt to the surroundings, yeah! There are hoes all over the place!
It seems that each "stroll" in Seattle has a different ambiance. Girls on 15th Northwest don't flag cars down, they don't dress like Greg Nickles' fantasy of how a ho dresses. But if you look, you'll find them.
T-Man
I drove down last night looking for something new. I had never sen fur hat kelly before but I saw her and immediatly recognized her. I made two passes, stopped at a light and even yelled her name. She glanced around made eye contact with me then looked away. She then crossed the street and went into jack in the box. I was determined so I drove off and made another attempt. I saw her at the bus stop waiting. I parked around the corner and casually approached on foot. I asked her are you fur hat kelly? She replied in the softest voice yes I am. I was like wow. Well whats up? She said it was late and that she was going home. I said damn girl it's only 9:30 she said to come back tomorow. I said okay that's cool. She is so pretty and doesn't even look like she belongs out there. The location I saw kelly at was 75th I think. Theres a Jack in the box and a AM/PM across from each other.
After that I had a really good experience with a BSW that a fellow monger referred to me. Now first off I don't do BSW. But She came highly recommended so I took a chance. She was very nice and accomodating, the location we used was poor but she didn't complain. She's 21 nice tight small ass and also doesn't really look like SW. I have her number and she said it's okay for me to give it out. I picked her up near 105th on a side street after making visual and phone contact with her.
I used to have a buddy that lived right off of 15 NW and would see girls working all the time. You could tell because I would see them on the way in and they would still be walking the area when I left hours later. They were always dressed in "General Public" attire, so unless you knew what you were looking for, you would never suspect. Always thought they might be amatures looking to pay bills.
Someone was talking about a SW with a pony tail awhile back near Oak Tree? I picked her up, don't bother. She wants too much money, which I paid because she had a hot body. Her technique was great, for about 30 seconds. She then went to the fist technique. When I asked her to play with the sack she said she does not do that. I have a contact number for those of you how like a challenge.
I hooked up with fur hat Kelly. Great service. She is a pro. She told me that she walks the area in the daytime taking notes on good places to park and where the cameras are. She said look for her at Taco Bell or Starbucks.
Hooked up with Kathy from the EMP Newyears Eve. She has a good little body and good uncovered technique. She also will let you pummel her other orifices while she services you. She is a Nympho. She still will not let me give her a milkshake to drink, but will accept facials.
Just spoke to fur hat kelly she said she would be out at around 4 today. She offered a incall massage in W. Seattle for 100.00 but I passed on that.
Mr Peepers
01-03-04, 22:52
Hey all,
Well last night the adventure started about 1am Sat early Morning Jan 3rd 2004. I spotted a young Blond stripper on the corner of 5th ave and Blanchard st,under the monarail. There was 3 other mongers passing her up till I decided to pick her up.
Her name was Renee.Looks-7-9 personallity 10 tall slender like 20-24 and great attitude. She was broke and in between jobs and we came to a price of .30 for lolipop time. Renee was happy I stopped and picked her up. There was others but she was like a diamond in the emerald city of Seattle.
We drove around for like 15mins and took like some more time till we were done. Alot of girls working have heard of the board and excited. I will wait till next time around payday and try to get a pic from her and post it here. If you want to find her she is on Blanchard st and 5th ave on the corner.
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Lookin for Stuff
01-04-04, 03:10
Cruised Aurora four times in the past two days haven't seen not one SW. I'll go for a cruise tomorrow and hope for the best.
Anyone else seeing much out there ?
Maybe its time to pull out the phone numbers and see how many still work.
BE SAFE
LFS
Was cruising Aurora on Friday. Saw LaLinda using the phone at the donut shop about 3, but had to keep going because I had meetings downtown.
Cruised back up later (about 5), hoping to see either someone.
Actually was looking for Melissa, the bsw mentioned here earlier.
She is young, really tiny, great c cups. Gives a good bbbjcim. She is the one wearing the white puffy coat. Her mother is African, but she has lived in the US most of her life. Very quiet, but accomodating. I'm afraid she'd just lay there during fs, she's so passive.
Anyway, she wasn't around. I did run into Linda again tho, near the big donut shop. She is so cool. I agree with the poster who said she's filled out some - she has, for sure. Great service tho for $30. Talked about this board. She also said that when she got back to LA she was going to post up on ********. She'll need some pretty good pictures to be competitve in looks with some of those girls.
I have a question. Anyone seen both LaLinda and Marlo from Tacoma? From all that I've read about Marlo, LaLinda sounds like she could give her a run for her money as far as qualilty bbbjs. Just wondered if anyone can give a real comparison. I've looked for Marlo on Pacific in Tacoma, but haven't seen her. I'd be glad to make the personal comparison.
Took a Sunday afternoon stroll through the Denny Park area, only one very low quality provider around. This area is definitely in decline.
Regarding 15th NW, I lived in Ballard for some years and remember seeing SWs very infrequently. I can't imagine this area becoming an active stroll, but would be pleasantly surprised if it did.
Be Safe!
I have seen both lalinda and Marlo. I saw lalinda yesterday, I picked her up on Aurora by 130th and took her back to her hotel in kent. We both showered and She gave me a really nice slow BBBJ and then on to FS until completion. I can't really compare them both because I always have FS with Marlo. But I like Marlo's body way more then lalinda. I agree with the part though about better pictures, she told me about that site also.
As far as Melissa goes she does just lay there. But we were at a very FS unfriendly place. We used a school just off Aurora and did it on the concrete. But she is really nice just a little to quiet for me. If you need her # message me and I can give it to you.
I think I've seen Melissa that you guys are talking about. I've always passed because to me she doesn't look a day over sixteen. Have any of you guys done the ole ID check with her? I'd love to pick her up because I like the young looking ones but only if she's legal. If she is could someone PM me with her #. Thanks,
Civ2K
I never even thought to ask her for her id. But I did ask her age and she said 21. But of course SW do tell lies, but to me she didn't look like a SW. I sent you her #.
sean_double
01-04-04, 23:15
6:50pm
I just came back from cruising Aurora for about an hour and didn't see much at all. I stopped into the Taco Bell on 87th or 88th for a couple of chalupas and Fur Hat Kelly was sitting by the window totally absorbed in a book. She is a very cute girl.
She wasn't looking around at all and I couldn't make any sort of eye contact so I hung around for a while and left. I'm kicking myself for not just staying there until she finally decided to leave.
The point of this post is to second/third/or fourth the opinion that she is very good looking. I've got $40.00 stashed in the ashtray of my car with her name on it.
Nico, Thanks for the number.
Melissa aside, I've been noticing a lot of very young looking SW's working lately particularly around the AAA/AMP area on weekend nights. I've probably picked up literally 300 hundred gals that looked like they could be on the bubble over the years. By that I mean they appear to be 18 or 19 but who knows. I ask each one how old she is and in only one instance have I had one admit she was only 17. I also usually in the course of conversation ask how long the gals been working. A lot say they have been working five or six years (give or take). Which means even if they're legal now they weren't for most of their hooking career. I usually ask for ID and kick them out if they don't have it, but not everytime. I have more trouble guessing the age of African American and Hispanic gals than I do white women. Sometimes its just hard to tell. My point is just to be real careful out there. The young ones look so hot but getting caught soliciting a 17 year old hooker is a felony and have pity on the poor guy who has a 15 year old in his car. A lot of them will easily pass for 21 or older.
I guess I just feel fortunate never to have gotten into serious trouble over this hobby and am starting to be a little more cautious. For example LaLinda will not only give you a great BBBJ but even if the cops catch you with your pants down you'll probably end up with a couple hundred dollar fine and a slap on the wrist. Unpleasant? Yes. Life changing? No.
Civ2K
Joint Action
01-05-04, 08:16
Speaking of young stuff – A buddy picked up a young one (claimed she was 20) several years ago on the AVE and took her home for some fun. After a day and night of pleasure he happened to search her clothes while she was in the shower and found a citation for “Shoplifting” and it listed a DOB that made her 15. Needless to say he immediately got her the hell out of the house. If there is any doubt of the age check the ID. No ID, no play. These days you could end up a “Registered Sex Offender” and you can guess the kind of hell your life will be like forever more.
Here is your Joint Action Tip For The Day: Next time you are at the doctors office, use the rest room and if it’s the one where they collect the urine samples they will have these nice little antiseptic wipes on the counter. Grab a hand full of them and keep them in a zip lock bag in your car. They are great for cleaning off your “Johnson” after the dead. If the SO asks why you have them tell her they are for cuts and bee stings.
JA
Mr Peepers
01-05-04, 10:25
Hi all!
There was a older sw in Burien area near 128th st south from Military Road and 16th Ave sw/Ambuam Blvd. This was like 11am-5pm. Her nick was Jen / Jennifer something like that. For a BBCJ for .30 was good and took her time and is always around. For a
rating scale looks 5/service 8/attitude 9 real down to earth.
Jen is like 5'2 110 lbs and looks like a kid from the back.
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Clyde the Glide
01-05-04, 15:33
I changed my masters research program to Bates Vocational Technical Institute, here's some raw data;
1/2/04, 1-4PM. Canvassed N145 to the tunnel. Cold as a nun's pottutti on holy friday. All the Seattle ladies must be home in front of the fire watching ball games. I remember during Trans-alaskan pipeline construction in January in Fairbanks, AK being solicited by a lady in 4" spiked boots, 10" mini skirt, garters, short jacket open to the waist and Farrah Faucet hair. I passed figuring I'd need an ice pick and chipping hammer to get it open since it was 40 degrees below zero, no wind and the little guy was hiding under my navel even behind 8" of down parka.
11/4/04, 1-3PM. Same search as above. Clear and cold. Widened the area north and watched a brunette, blue coat and jeans walk SB west side from N155 to 148. Felt sorry but she smoked a lot. Continued north to N200th and interviewed Michelle, brunette, straight hair, biker look, quick mouth maybe tweakin', WSW. In car bbbjtc with sound effects, under five minutes, wheew. Says she lives in the area, no contact number. Most of the neighborhood trailer hitches were missing their chrome. Continuing research revealed a brunette HWP standing in the middle of the parking lot at Rite Aid just wildly looking around. Sometimes the entertainment value is priceless.
Have a good '04 and darn those 'hawks.
Clyde
Lookin for Stuff
01-05-04, 16:40
Had a great session with LALinda yesterday . Same Ole Linda, no hurry, no rush makin sure your havin a good time. I to agree she has put on a few pounds, She says she's been hibernating and will drop the pounds when it gets a bit warmer.
BE SAFE
LFS
Anonymous One
01-05-04, 17:43
Colnago - was that Jaime that wouldn't play with your nuts? If so, I remember her from a few years ago. I was flabbergasted, absolutely stupefied when she refused to fondle the fellows. She should be out of business by now. A hooker unwilling to go sack is like a restaraunt that doesn't serve beverages.
AnonymousOne
"Customer service is when the hooker licks your balls, too."
Michael1967
01-06-04, 04:02
I don't know whether to put this in Seattle or Tacoma but... because of all of the activity at S.272nd Street and Pacific Hwy. I decided to give the Redondo Bar & Grill a try.
This place used to be sort of a redneck bar and had karaoke most of the time. About 2 years ago, it switched to a bar that caters mainly to blacks (before you guys start whining, I'm black). I went there about a year and a half ago and it wasn't so bad. Now, it is gangsta and gangsta wannabe heaven. The reason why I'm posting about it here is because the women that hang around gangstas are there (fat white chicks and drug addicted prostitutes, with a few attractive black females added for variety). Yes, I went there tonight (Monday) and after 15 minutes I had a girl sit next to me and ask me if I was there alone. She wanted me to buy her a drink (I wouldn't) and then asked if I wanted to leave and "hang out" with her for awhile. I told her no (because there was someone hotter on the other side of the bar playing pool). She left about 10 minutes later with another guy.
For those of us that are normal. The place is scary. Avoid eye contact with everyone. If you read the Seattle Times, someone was killed there on Friday. Quite honestly, I'm surprised that they are still open, the police hang out there every night at closing and I'm sure they will suffer the same fate as every other black club in Seattle or Tacoma (this time righteously so). If you got balls, give it a try...but don't blame me if something bad happens to you.
Tight Grip
01-06-04, 06:51
Was out round the Denny Park area tonight around 10 pm. Saw one bsw by the Holiday Inn Express. Nothing at all around the usual Aroura Stroll. I think the cold and threat of weather has them in.
Anonyomous One
Her name was Katrina or kathrine.
Was on Des Moines Way S. near the 7-11 and hooked with a WSW named Ria. She is blonde with a medium build fair, size rack I think(hard to tell due to the amount of clothing she had on) and a large butt. She does BBBJCIM for 20.00. She takes instruction real well and not rushed. Have a contact number.
SeattleGman
01-06-04, 13:44
WARNING!
I picked up Veronica near Corson and E. Marginal Way last night around 9PM. Settled on 40 for 1/2 and 1/2. She is brunette, around 35 years old. A she is on the heavier side and older side, but still do-able. Nice rack. Said she was from Tukwila, but she normally works this area (I have never seen her before). We found a good spot in an industrial area and parked. Paid her the 40. Service was excellent with some dirty talk and DFK to go along. Dropped her back off near the same location I found her. About half way home, I had a strange feeling so I checked my wallet. Empty. I think I had about 20-25 left in there after paying her the 40.
Another lesson learned. This is only the 2nd time that this has happened to me in my many years of mongering. She is a pro lifter for sure. My wallet was in my pants on the floor and I don't know how the hell she did it! I suggest limiting the amount of cash you carry in your wallet at all times. I have done that recently and that limited my loss. Still pisses me off though!
Sucks to hear that she lifted your cash SeattleGman. I sometimes put my cash in my sock or my shoe if all I'm getting is a bj. That way I always have something for the ride back home incase I get hungry or feel like hunting again.
SeattleG, Yeah that's a bummer your wallet getting stolen. I hope all you lost was cash and not your ID and credit cards as well. It reminds me of a time I picked up this SW at that bus stop just south of Canlis near the bridge. I had the money for the date in my pocket and I had my wallet zipped up in my coat pocket in the back seat. We parked and I got a BJ and then I let her off. I drove off put on my jacket and not only was my wallet gone but the pocket was zipped back up. To this day I marvel and wonder how she was able to pull that off. Now days my wallet gets hidden in my trunk.
Civ2K
I picked up a new one for me Monday about 9:30 AM at 103rd and Aurora. Her name is Lisa, she's from New York and looks maybe 1/2 Puerto Rican. She had dark reddish-brown hair shoulder length and bright red lips. She did a good 1/2 and 1/2 for $55. Nice little body and good attitude. She was carrying a back pack with all her stuff in it so I don't know if she is on the move or not. She said she was staying with a friend in Edmonds. Worth the money it you see her.
Cheers,
HS
Civ2000,
I also had my money taken from my wallet (which was in my back pocket) and the wallet was replaced. She was a real lifter pro and I was stupid. It was in San Francisco, and I was young, probably 20 years ago. She said she was offering a $20 special to out of towners. She said she knew I was from out of town because she knew it was a rental car. She had me get in an odd position leaning back between the bucket seats to watch for people. It gets worse. She made a dash with the cash and then in a few seconds I figured out what she did. I jumped out of the car to run after her, slammed and locked the door and realized the keys were still in the ignition. She got about $150. Luckily I had about $40 stashed in a side pocket in my wallet and was able to pay a tow-truck driver $20 to open the car for me. Not a good night.
EasyTom
SeattleGman
01-06-04, 22:47
Civ2000
The wallet was still in my pocket w/all my ID and credit cards. That is why I was amazed at how she was able to lift my cash out of my wallet without me knowing. I recall her asking me to switch places so she would be more "comfortable". I'm still scratching my head and embarrassed at the same time. Honest and reliable providers are nice, but I guess we all take a risk every time we pick up someone new.
Michael1967
01-06-04, 23:01
I remember that the same thing happened to me a couple of years ago. I had my wallet under my seat and she "got comfortable" and gave me a very slow, very unrushed, bbbj. She was going slow to give herself time to get into my wallet.
Funny thing is that instead of being pissed and hunting her down (she was a Denny Park girl), I was just relieved that she only got the 20 or 25 bucks that was in my wallet and left everything else there. I think they may realize that if they take your wallet that they are going to be a target. I just figured I paid $45 for a very good BJ.
I have started the habit of locking my wallet in the glove box. I do it right in front of the SW to remove all other possible distractions from her mind.
John Quakman
01-07-04, 00:16
I caught a hooker going thru my pockets while she gave me the longest BBBJ in her life. Watched her turn over the pants till she found the $15 I had. We had a deal for $20 so I was not real upset. So she finishes and I drive her back to the drop off and pull up real close to a mailbox, trapping her in the car. I lokk at her and ask "wannna get`out?" She nods, I explain the fee is $20 for that privlege. As she starts to complain she realizes that I know what she did and agrees. Got $20 back for my $15 and spent $15. MacDonalds got nothing on that!
The same rip-off thing has happened to me, most recently a few weeks ago after meeting someone near Chinatown on a Sunday morning.
I had left some cash in the back pocket of my pants and by the time I realized what she was doing and I reached for my pants (finding the pocket empty) she bolted out of my car. My pants, of course, were around my ankles, making it that much harder to chase her down. I drove home upset at myself for my stupidity, cause I always keep my wallet, etc, hidden away. I made a mistake for a one-time screw-up.
Be safe out there, gang.
Big
Tube Steak
01-07-04, 02:19
A very long time ago I got picked once, but checked my wallet before she got out, can't remember why, but there was $800 in there and she had gotten it. We were on Cap Hill and she wasn't going to give it up and I wasn't going to let her go. BSW H-addict. Pre-crack. Got into a big brouhaha and the cops came. Got cited for soliciting a prostitute and she got soliciting. Spent the night in habdcuffs. Like a $60 fine. Had to go to court. They hauled her out, this is like a month later, she was still there on some other rap.It's still on my record. I guess I learned something that. No cash and no BSW's. They did give me the money back with my personal effects. Very white of the cops. I'm sure they could've kept it as "evidence".
S.
Had the same wierd stuff happen to me aobut 10 years ago. Actually, could be the same woman, as she was younger than you describe by quite a wide margin, but this one got my wallet, dropped it in a mail box. I had it in my back pocket and had absolutely no idea what she was doing. It was spooky. Had a hell of a time explaining that to the old lady, what happened to it. She bought dropping it digging something out of the back of the car.
I learned to put it in the glove compartment too, then keep my ready cash in a pocket and later got a clip I put to the left of the steering wheel that she could not see and clipped it there. Very handy little gadget.
Had to shut off two credit cards. it was a mess. You cannot be too careful and while we all want to trust human nature, some are just not trustworthy!
Brethren:
Wow! I'm saddened to hear these tales of loss in the hobby. I modestly suggest that, like all human activity, the hobby requires both thought and preparation.
I suggest, in all humility, that we remember the first rule of the market: Think about how much you feel comfortable spending, and don't go to the market with more, or less. If a seller won't meet my price, I look for another seller.
And I have several spots in the car where I can put a part of that price.
For some of us this discussion is academic. Once one finds a reliable provider, it pays to become a regular.
And nothing else to report: The snow kept me off the street. Anybody have any luck using skis?
T-Man
I've been playing on the LiveLinks chat line and have landed a few interesting SWs. Has anyone else played there? Any interest in comparing notes and trading info about those SWs here?
Some of them definitely sound shady, others sound like normal gals out trying to make a buck.
For instance, Barbie, 40, 5-6, 140, WSW, was calling out of Aurora Village asking for 60 for FS today.
I usually frequent the Ohio boards, but I was reading here and I saw the stories of how some of you have been ripped off by providers. This has been a subject of discussion on the Columbus board also as several have had problems in the last couple months.
The thing I thought I would mention is that several of the guys reported that they had locked their wallets in glove compartments or consoles, only to discover that the SW had somehow still managed to break into them. Guys, simply do not leave anything to chance. Make sure that you have nothing that they can steal anywhere inside your vehicle, or get extra creative in your hiding skills 'cause they are getting better at their thieving!
Also, just a thought about stashing the wallet in the trunk: Isn't that going to be rather suspicious if you get stopped by LE? Imagine them pulling you over to harass you because they see the SW get into your car. I can just imagine the grilling that you will get when you have to get your ID out of the trunk!
Be safe
Wing Star
Just noticed TRB is back up but when I checked it, no reports since Dec. 11. Anyone know its status?
Diet Coke, What is TRB?
Geronimo, As I've mentioned on the board before I have a friend who frequently meets hookers on Live Links. He has pretty good luck but often the gals are older like the one you mentioned was in her forties. It'll be a cold day in hell (or Seattle) before I pay to have FS with a woman in her forties. Well maybe Meg Ryan.
Approximately 3 p. m. today I saw whom I thought to be Angel (who was active in the strolls last summer) at 107th and Aurora standing under an umbrella. I'm not 100% sure as it was raining pretty hard and I didn't get a great look but I'm pretty sure it was her. She is a fairly nice 19-year-old HSW with big hooters. I think Titman would approve.
My M.O. with my cash is this. I carry a twenty, a ten, and a five in my pocket to cover a date ranging from twenty to thirty-five in five dollar increments. Then I have a twenty hidden in case I want some extras like FS. I have my cash card locked in the trunk with my wallet in case I want to splurge and get a motel or something. I haven't been ripped off in a long time. I think a lot of it is experience and confidence. If you act like you know what you're doing and show no signs of nervousness the liklihood of getting ripped off goes down dramatically.
Happy Hunting!
Civ2k
Civ
TRB is The Review Board. They went offline when the Garden of Eden Bust went down.
Hello all.
Hope the holiday hunting went well for everybody out there. I was hoping somebody could help me out on a realatively idiotic request. I am still not quite certain fow to check my private messages. I'm not totally clear on this process and could use a little help. Thanks again for all the sightings and info over the past few days! Stay safe!
Xero
petedragon
01-08-04, 12:01
trb is the review board. but its only kinda-sorta up. no new posts, search doesn't work and you can't farther back than the first page. other than that, its perfect.
P.
I was wondering, has anyone tried downtown seattle in or near chinatown. I was thinking perhaps there might be some asians down in and around there. Might need to stroll through there on foot.
Clyde the Glide
01-08-04, 15:17
TRB is just getting the kinks removed. Give Ted and UHP some time to resurect the NW's premier pooning resource.
Happy New Year!
Clyde
Michael1967
01-08-04, 18:06
Nico said:
I was wondering, has anyone tried downtown seattle in or near chinatown. I was thinking perhaps there might be some asians down in and around there. Might need to stroll through there on foot.
If you look around 11PM-3AM you will always find one or two in the area. Forget the Asians, I gave up that fantasy 5 or 6 years ago. You'll find the standard drug addicted,. non-asian females you'll find anywhere. You will see quite a few drunken asian females, but I can only think of one occasion where I actually saw one unescorted. At one point, I spent a bit of time out there thinking that I would hit on one of the drunken ones when they come out but they always had someone with them. There is no doubt in my mind that there are asian prostitutes there, but they only go with the asian men.
BTW, LE is usually pretty heavy there.
The best place to find girls is to the east of the area which has no regular pedestrians. If you're in the area make sure you drive around Beacon Hill and drive on Rainier up to the I-90 entrance. This was my favorite area for awhile (especially that park that overlooked the Kingdome...when it was there). I used to take the girls in the bathroom and do them and finally one said it was too dangerous to go in there, but the police never harass people looking at the view. I would look at the view of the city while she got a closeup of other sights. This area hasn't been lively for quite a few years but if I'm in the area, I always seem to find one worthy one.
Just had a full physical....HIV NEGATIVE...I like those words. Anyway have a great New Year and keep it covered! Especially with that report about some SW on Aurora who is confirmed HIV positive.
Going to Houston in a few weeks, will partake of the great action in the strip clubs and the AMPS'. We need more clubs like Houston.
Clyde the Glide
01-09-04, 20:58
1/9/04, 10-11am: Drove south on Aurora from N143 to the Zoo and found nothing. Aimed back north and found Debbie, WSW, brunette, HWP, 30's, nice ass in jeans, walking NB on east side at N205th. Decided on an interview. Her house in Edmonds worked just fine. Went there and negotiated two halves but only got through the bbbjtcim.
I wonder if crossing a county boundary causes jurisdictional problems? Gosh, I hope so.
Enjoy '04
Clyde
Wing Star Wrote:
Also, just a thought about stashing the wallet in the trunk: Isn't that going to be rather suspicious if you get stopped by LE?
Wing Star - Leave your wallet in your jacket in your trunk. Little suspicion there. I've been pulled over (for speeding not pooning) and had my registration and proof of insurance in the trunk. I think the cop was more nervous about me pulling a gun or something out of the trunk than suspicious. I offered to let him get it if he wanted to.
Tarl - Congrats! Have fun in Houston.
No sightings to report.
Lots of girls out last night adout 2 am between 105th and 135th. Lots of police out too, I did not partake in any of the dishes.
Greetings fellow hobbists,
I am new to the forum, but like some others, not new to the scene. I'm back after a nasty 2 year bout of unemployment. I can say that most of my experiences and cautions reflect those detailed by the senior members, so newbies take heed.
I was out about 6:45 - 7:30, and saw some activity around Oak Tree and farther north around 130th- 140th. I believe I caught a glimse of Monica?, the popular one so often referred to here. She had the trademark hat and was reading a book. Although subtle, It set off my Hodar right away. Tried to get turned around quickly, but alas, she dissapeared. Came back around 30 min. later, but nothing but a different SW, skanky, and swaying like a tweaker.
There was a black SW just north of the KMart, bright white high pump heels, and pencil thin. Not my body type. I am very intregued by Monica, and hope to be in the right place at the right time next time.
Good hunting.
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BEWARE
Saw a BSW south of the AAA, on the same corner as the Vagabond Inn last night acting very decoy like. should would not stray far from her corner, did not wave, give or make any "Come Hither" motions. In addition, she was older than most who work that area. There also were absolutely no other girls anywhere near the area. Could be wrong, but watch yourselves out there.
Colnago, You're probably right. The last couple of stings I observed were on that very corner with the cops hiding in the parking garage. What I like to do is drive to the other side of Aurora and watch the whole thing play out. The only difference is that the last time I saw a sting, the decoys were being extremely obvious. But another clue is that there were no other SW's working. Before a sting the LE trys to drive out all the other gals so that the decoys are the only game in town.
Civ2K
I was out last nite between about 10:30 and 1. I didn't see anything odd around the Vagabond.
There were a few ladies out.
Miranda is a tall wsw. About an 8. Wore tight jeans, bare midriff, bra top. Looked hot. I remembered her from last summer. We visited for a few minutes and got her digits. She spent a lot of time sitting in her car waiting for guys she recognized.
Joni is an older wsw (maybe 40). Very personable. Not bad looking. Saw her - bbbjcim $35. Great technique. You could tell she has had some real ups and downs in her life, tho.
There were a few others - a real slim bsw with her sister, a little heavier bsw working across the street from her, on the AAA parking lot corner.
Went up Aurora - saw a medium sized wsw, blonde - making eyes at me, didn't stop. That bsw that appears to be a TV, but isn't, according to some of you, was up at the donut shop.
Turned around and went back down.
There were a couple more on the east side of Aurora - slightly to more chubby wsw, and a short light skinned bsw who told me that she'd 'love to take care of me, baby' - those kind of comments are either true, or rip off, and you take your chances.
Hooked up with Jamaica, a very hot bsw, back down by the AMP.
Great attitude, great looking, great bod. Wanted 50 for a cbj. Settled at 40. Unrushed. Lots of fun to talk to. I'm keeping her digits until I can see her again.
Other than that, there were a lot of pimps around, driving, harassing, blocking traffic - these guys were major jerks. They just stop in the middle of the street, yell and stare down the girls.
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That was probably Kelly you saw near the Oak Tree with the hat and book, not Monica.
Cheers, HS
Mr Peepers
01-11-04, 21:07
Downtown, Sun 11th jan 04 about 5am-8am very few out that time.One girl black hair on the corner 5th an bell st heading south.
Smiled and her looks age 19-22, slim wsw. Then down to Denny park and John st around 8am another brunnette waving me over, then the local Boys in blue in the alleys looking-waiting. Time for me to go! Not good without money and just window shopping at that time of morning.
People here continually write about the AAA/AMP---to what are you referring? Sorry for what may be an obvious question.
Dion WR, The AAA is a motel just west of Aurora about three blocks North of Denny Way. AMP is a night club for teens (formerly called DV8) and is located a couple blocks west of Aurora on or near Thomas St.
Civ2K
I thought the AAA was the Automobile Assn of 'Merica at 6th and Harrison
Tight Grip
01-12-04, 21:35
Is anyone aware of the traffic camera at the pedestrian crossing by Larry's Market on Aroura. Any idea how long it has been there?
Also I visited Sugar's today located in Shorline. Any word if there are any possibilities with the girls there. I had a couple of lap dances that were nice and some good company. Everyting seems legit there to me. There is a girl named Gi Gi there, she is really nice to talk with. Also there was an older wsw with long blask hait and black clothes working the Jack in the box area of Aroura around 3:30 an also an auborn haired wsw that was cute but looked like she was tweakin.
Good luck guys,
TG
Geronimo, You're right. I meant to say next to the motel there.
Michael1967
01-13-04, 05:58
Spent most of the evening at the Redondo Bar & Grill tonight. Now that I've spent a little bit of time in the place, it really isn't that scary. Met up with Kim there a "massage therapist/adult entertainer"(her words). She spent the last couple of hours trying to convince me I needed a "massage". Her way of convincing me of this was by grabbing my crotch anytime she thought no one was looking. I didn't have the slightest bit of interest in her. When I arrived she was sitting with a smoking hot Latina. I kept trying to get the Latina's attention and but she finally left. Kim came over and sat down next to me because she saw that I was "checking out her friend big time". I tried to get the Latina's number but she was unwilling to give it to me.
Kim is black and somewhat attractive, though a little bit to heavy for me (I like my ladies thin). She is drug free, held a pretty good conversation and spoke perfect English, but (like me) when she needed to turn ghetto she could change in a second. After talking with me for about 30 minutes her phone rang and she left for an "appointment" and said she'd return in 45 minutes. I took a trip to Tacoma and when I returned about 1.5 hours later she was back again. She sat next to me again and really worked at convincing me that we needed to leave for a "massage". I spent that time feeling her up as much as I could without getting thrown out of the place and when she finally went to the bathroom, I quickly left (yes, I'm an asshole).
This is the third time in the last week I've been there and the third time I've been hit up by a prostitute. I asked the bartender about the girls and she said, "we're on Pacific Highway, that's what you find out there". I'm definitely going to keep going back...at least until I can get that Latina. If you're brave, it's also a great spot to sit at a window and watch the hookers enter and leave the parking lot at 272nd and Pac Hwy. That intersection is much busier than I thought.
Michael
BTW - In the parking lot a pimp was yelling at his SW about not making enough money. I thought that only happened in the movies, but I could understand why she didn't make much.
N. Discreet
01-13-04, 14:58
I saw a post on the Everett board today that reminded me of a fairly recent SW. Anyone experienced the cute deaf girl out there? Around 24, blonde, girl-next-door type. I picked her up at 175th and Aurora several months ago. Initally it was unnerving because she had no idea what I was saying, then I realized that was a plus!
Nothing like being able to say any nasty thing that pops into your head while her face is in your lap.
If you pick her up make the most of it but be nice nonverbally. She's more than a little vulnerable.
I found another deaf SW in Phoenix last summer. Same story. No chitchat, they don't want to change your radio station, and they don't care what you call say during the act. I'm sure she knew what was going on but didn't let on. Lots of fun.
Nothing new to report. Haven't seen anything worth sharing and I'm really bored with the same old faces and LE out there.
Tight Grip,
Yes, I think we've all seen the traffic camera near the Oak Tree. It really is a traffic camera. If you go to the state Department of Transportation site, click on traffic cams, click on "Seattle", and click on the appropriate spot on the map, you can see what it sees. It sees damn little.
T-Man
Anonymous One
01-13-04, 15:29
Michael1967 - That Redondo sounds like an excellent place to hang out and meet a ho. In your opinion, would it be safe for a solo white boy to go there? Are there particular times a solo white boy might want to avoid the place, and if so, are those the same times the ho's are likely to be there?
I always like the opportunity to snatch and grab some ass from inside a bar or place of business. It has a little bit of that "pick-up" feel to it, plus potentially a bit safer.
Any thoughts you have on the matter are appreciated.
AnonymousOne
"The ass is never on the rag"
petedragon
01-13-04, 17:01
tight grip - as titman said its a traffic cam and its been there for at least 3 years.
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