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As soon as tna is back up I'm logging in a closing my shit. Adios to the shit show that is tna, this breach was the final straw for me. +1 for having built up regulars and other boards (this one, private d, tryst). Saving grace for tna was that it couldn't be beat for ensuring you're actually seeing a legit provider. Scams were few and far between (not including new providers with no presence).
For anyone that has twitter, check out the latest tna board (one word) hashtags. Some interesting reading by one user TAT_dena. She reports that tna has been under investigation since 2014. Lots of opportunities for down the rabbit hole type reading but as for me, I'm out.I am under the impression they're building from scratch. But you make it sound like they're rebuilding the site and will automatically add existing profiles as new accounts on the new site.
My issue with that is deleting your account entirely requires some REALLY stupid steps like having a provider acknowledge your review and blah-blah-blah. I hope it's an opt-in process for the "new" TNA.
So are these sites you recommend to have an account on?You van make an account on any of these; just be sure to not diaclose any personal info.
This can be done with an email account that requires no personal info (proton. Me for example) and a vpn. The vpn is there to prevent your IP from leaking. More security can be obtained with tor and strict settings which turn js off. But even that isn't foolproof. You can move to long range wifi antennas with a dedicated laptob running tails or whonix, piggybacking off of nearby business open wifi. Just be sure not to do it from a vechile with a transceiver or while having your cellphone anywhere nearby. Stay off cameras.
There is always an attack vector. Your mitigation should depend on threat level. From tna ransomtheives, probably fine with an email that doesn't tie back to you only. LEO: you may want to up your game.
Even if you delete your account, your messages and all activity is likely logged in the databases the hackers took over. Often deleting a post, account, message, etc. Only flips the value of that record from isDeleted=0 to isDeleted=1 in the database, so the site knows whether to exclude it from the front end. Such a design is called a logical delete opposed to a physical delete.
I am under the impression they're building from scratch. But you make it sound like they're rebuilding the site and will automatically add existing profiles as new accounts on the new site.
My issue with that is deleting your account entirely requires some REALLY stupid steps like having a provider acknowledge your review and blah-blah-blah. I hope it's an opt-in process for the "new" TNA.The way I understood it is they have a clean database that they are building off of. Per their twitter updates they said you will log in and they'll prompt you to change your password and everything else will be as it was before. I've heard there were potentially a couple weeks of data loss. If whoever hacked them has passwords, I see loads of potential issues with that so who knows. I just want to get into my account so I can delete it.
Bobby ShafToe
07-06-22, 17:59
Since TNA is down, does anyone happen to have Sevyn77's phone number?She is on Instagram. Sevyn7 heaven. You can message her there.
She is on Instagram. Sevyn7 heaven. You can message her there.Can you grab her at username? A search for "Sevyn7 heaven" returns a lot of results.
The way I understood it is they have a clean database that they are building off of. Per their twitter updates they said you will log in and they'll prompt you to change your password and everything else will be as it was before. I've heard there were potentially a couple weeks of data loss. If whoever hacked them has passwords, I see loads of potential issues with that so who knows. I just want to get into my account so I can delete it.That doesn't sound super great. They are probably doing the minimal update to get it running.
These days it isn't super hard to build a message forum. Strapi has a tutorial using their database.
NodeJS, you can run NodeBB and have full stack Javascript making it simpler to maintain (by way of only one programming language).
Just another reason this whole industry should be legal. However, it looks like the government wants more control over women's bodies. Not less.
Member #6078
07-06-22, 19:34
Can you grab her at username? A search for "Sevyn7 heaven" returns a lot of results.https://callescort.org/971-277-4033
That has the number for you.
Bobby ShafToe
07-07-22, 09:59
Can you grab her at username? A search for "Sevyn7 heaven" returns a lot of results.That literally is her username. Except for the stupid autocorrect space that was added. Its sevyn7 heaven.
That literally is her username. Except for the stupid autocorrect space that was added. Its sevyn7 heaven.
https://callescort.org/971-277-4033
That has the number for you.Why'all are great. Appreciate the response.
Join date.
Birthdate you provided TNA.
Email (obviously).
State you reside, and the region ("West".
A full transcript of your active chats.LOL only thing I'm worried about is if I was a dumdum and used my name for signup. I imagine if they had they wouldn't have addressed the email to "insertusernamehere".
Providers got screwed over big time tho so I can't say what info they might have give out.
HankChristine
07-08-22, 16:57
As much as I used to rely on it, if they don't have the new / repaired site up soon, it won't matter how shiny it is, all of the providers and hobbyists will come to rely on other sites and just won't come back.
My take is that there's no coming back if they are offline for more than a couple of weeks, certainly no chance if it's a month or more.
HankChristine
07-08-22, 17:15
As much as I used to rely on it, if they don't have the new / repaired site up soon, it won't matter how shiny it is, all of the providers and hobbyists will come to rely on other sites and just won't come back.
My take is that there's no coming back if they are offline for more than a couple of weeks, certainly no chance if it's a month or more.
SouthernCupid
07-10-22, 01:33
Looks TNA won't be back any soon.
My guess is either a current or ex boyfriend. She has a few videos and pictures on her OF of her fucking a black dude (could be this guy) bareback and pictures of creampies.How is her OF? Worth it?
Drex Diggler2
07-17-22, 20:54
With them being hacked so thoroughly, why are people wanting to rush back? Lmao Idiots in my opinion.
Shy Guy 69
07-18-22, 02:48
And it was a way to get updated contact info for the ladies that change their number frequently. I fucked up and didn't immediately update some numbers and I haven't been able to reach a few providers I've been wanting to see.
Haven't found a good alternative, or haven't seen some providers on other sites. Fuck.
Looks TNA won't be back any soon.Speaking of online security why does this board not use https? It's a glaring security issue that be fixed cheaply by just provisioning an SSL cert. As it is right now all traffic to this board including username / password are sent in the clear so it would incredibly easy for a malicious actor to sniff traffic including PMs. I'm not sure how to contact the admins to ask about it.
LOL only thing I'm worried about is if I was a dumdum and used my name for signup. I imagine if they had they wouldn't have addressed the email to "insertusernamehere".
Providers got screwed over big time tho so I can't say what info they might have give out.Did anything ever come out of this for the guys we got email threats?
I suspect not.
Not for me. I had a provider that contacted me that I had recently seen. She was really worried. Not sure if she paid or not.
Did anything ever come out of this for the guys we got email threats?
I suspect not.
With them being hacked so thoroughly, why are people wanting to rush back? Lmao Idiots in my opinion.While the reviews were curated and you had to wear a Sherlock hat to figure out who was BS and what service to expect. TNA at least offered enough information to make a poorly informed decision.
There are not nearly enough reviews posted here, while this site seems to have the most honesty of all the ones in PDX. It is also somewhat hard to find reviews here, as some will review with a link that will eventually stop working, the incorrect provider name or old name that you might not know, or just a review in a reply to someone else that is super hard to find via search.
Private Delights seems to have a handful of reviews. They are more useless than TNA was. Some people think Dominos Pizza is "great", so when all these reviews basically say "it was a great time" or "she was great" I have to think are they talking fast food with food poisoning later, or gourmet dinner with dessert? The only think I have to say about those reviews is that they are "great".
Tryst seems to have a lot of provider activity. If you search for an area as half the search results will be providers who one day might visit PDX. The rest are often providers that are well known, but for some reason I think Tryst is adjusting their rates up because they are often a couple bills higher on this site than the same ad elsewhere.
Even E-Alligator has a few reviews, that also seem more honest than most other sites. But as that site is basically all fake ads, it is sort of pointless to check other than entertainment.
The various review sites that have a pay-to-read fee seem to all be at a price just high enough to be annoying. Maybe they are super informative and helpful?
With women's rights being eroded, we are father than ever to have sex worker's professions legal. Honest reviews are a form of protection, just like TNA had a way for providers to report clients to avoid. While it wasn't formal. There was a slight form of client review on TNA as well.
It would be nice to have a site that has some of the TNA features (reviews, ads, forums), but that is operated by a group looking to keep everyone safe. Not just curating out any negative review or white-knighting.
TmiSmith2000
07-19-22, 11:31
I imagine with Tnas return tomorrow, maybe, the providers will have raised rates to compensate for lost work time. I'll never understand that concept. I missed 3 weeks of work so I'm going to double my rates To make up for it then complain when no one sees me. If you need $2000, it's better to see 10 dicks than struggle to see 5 at $400.
Smart providers will lower rates.
While the reviews were curated and you had to wear a Sherlock hat to figure out who was BS and what service to expect. TNA at least offered enough information to make a poorly informed decision....With women's rights being eroded, we are father than ever to have sex worker's professions legal. Honest reviews are a form of protection, just like TNA had a way for providers to report clients to avoid. While it wasn't formal. There was a slight form of client review on TNA as well. It would be nice to have a site that has some of the TNA features (reviews, ads, forums), but that is operated by a group looking to keep everyone safe. Not just curating out any negative review or white-knighting.I don't think you can ever have a site that can stay 100% neutral. I think this site is great for spotting the bullshit and for men being men who frequent the business, even if it's not super welcoming to the ladies of the night. I think a TNA style site is great for covering the other half of the equation, giving the girls a 'safe place' so to speak. I've talked to one provider post-TNA shutdown, and she's mostly upset at not having a place to vet johns and their reputations. That and her fear of having her info hacked and everything distributed. But she's in a vulnerable position, being a regular gal who took up the trade to pay the bills last year. I think most of the TNA girls would just be annoyed at being doxxed. But those are also the girls who get the most complaints on here, so there ya go.
As for the rest. States-level rights rock (in my fence-sitting humble libertarian opinion, LOL) and I think you're far more likely to see some states where some things are restricted and some things are wide open, with the state next door being the opposite. Being able to choose to say, come to blue Oregon and enjoy the drugs and prostitution for a weekend (you know they're going to legalize it here, just give it time), then go home to your red state where there aren't homeless on every street corner, well, 'Murica! If that means folks have to travel out of state to buy mags and ammo OR to get their last-minute abortions and drugs, that's better than having restrictive country-wide rules that piss off one half and please the other half of the voting populace, and maybe this will start helping to cool things down instead of polarizing everyone to opposite ends of the spectrum once the true meaning of states rights soaks into everyone's collective consciousness.
Agreed with what Quickfoot said. T nA was imperfect, but still had the best organized review system where if you read inbetween the lines, and avoid the white knights, you could make an informed decision.
As for the rest. States-level rights rock (in my fence-sitting humble libertarian opinion, LOL) and I think you're far more likely to see some states where some things are restricted and some things are wide open, with the state next door being the opposite. Being able to choose to say, come to blue Oregon and enjoy the drugs and prostitution for a weekend (you know they're going to legalize it here, just give it time), then go home to your red state where there aren't homeless on every street corner, well, 'Murica! If that means folks have to travel out of state to buy mags and ammo OR to get their last-minute abortions and drugs, that's better than having restrictive country-wide rules that piss off one half and please the other half of the voting populace, and maybe this will start helping to cool things down instead of polarizing everyone to opposite ends of the spectrum once the true meaning of states rights soaks into everyone's collective consciousness.Oh please. It's states rights for me but not for thee mentality. Most Red states can only survive by leeching off wealthy blue states.
https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/
I'm not sure how to contact the admins to ask about it.A2 is very good about replying to any forum related questions you might have.
Send him a pm at Admin2.
NachoCheese
07-20-22, 02:40
Oh please. It's states rights for me but not for thee mentality. Most Red states can only survive by leeching off wealthy blue states.
https://www.moneygeek.com/living/states-most-reliant-federal-government/Besides confusing correlation with causation, your referenced URL has horribly low resolution for a state's political affiliation. "Red" vs "Blue" sounds like a roosterteeth production.
It would be much more meaningful to view this information as a gradient: how Republican or Democrat is a given state? Better yet would be a visualization and point plot of the federal aid spending breakdown and political leaning by county.
NachoCheese
07-20-22, 03:01
Speaking of online security why does this board not use https? It's a glaring security issue that be fixed cheaply by just provisioning an SSL cert. As it is right now all traffic to this board including username / password are sent in the clear so it would incredibly easy for a malicious actor to sniff traffic including PMs. I'm not sure how to contact the admins to ask about it.I always thought it was because this is clearly an NSA / Malaysian Special Branch front. Seriously though, while not using TLS isn't nearly as dangerous as it seems, it's 2022, and free Lets Encrypt certificates fall from the skies like mana from heaven. Either that or the management could voluntarily MiTM all of us by using Cloudflare.
Either way, I just wish they'd be smarter about their daily backups. It's 2022, there is zero excuse for even a second of regularly scheduled downtime.
PoorOldMan
07-20-22, 07:53
From Twitter:
We have to delay the live date to Sunday the 24th as we need to ensure security of our site. We are almost here after days of testing. Here is what happend.
This is a copy and paste of the information on their Twitter account. Not going to take the time to put in the paragraphs or correct typos.
What happened? On June 26th our site was hacked by a professional hacking group who claims to have been paid by a competitor to steal our database and publish it. When we activated our twitter account to let users know of our status we were verbally attacked andthreaten by a particular user who also knew details about our database that someone without direct access to it shouldn't know. This user has apparently been doing her best to shut down sites like ours that she's allegedly workedfor in the past. You can draw your own conclusions as to her involvement with this illegal attack. The hackers also gained access to our backups and deleted them. Luckily we had an offline backup, although it is 2 weeks older than the date of the attack. So recent data will no longer exist. The hackers then started emailing certain users extortion attempts. *Note: Every single user who was extorted received the same threatening email and given the same Bitcoin address to submit payment to. This means that they have no way of knowing YOU sent them payment. So, they are either going to publish everything anyway, or they are not publishing anything and it was a scare tactic to steal money from people. In either case, you should not pay them a cent. What did they steal? Usernames, email addresses, IP addresses, saved private messages. They sat on this information for over a week. Given that this attack was specifically geared towards removing a platform from the internet that is intended to provide a safe environment for people to connect, and to extort it's users, we can be assured that anything they publish will have been modified by them to cause the most damage. Nothing published can be considered true or accurate information. What did they NOT steal? Real names, physical addresses, passwords, deleted private messages. As you know we do not collect personal information for Hobbyist accounts. Documentation submitted by providers for age verification never reaches our servers in any way and is stored offline, so none of this information was compromised.
Passwords were hashed and salted. This means it is very unlikely they would have access to this data. Still, in your best interest you should change your password to any site where you use the same username / email. Password combination. Private messages are permanently removed from the database when you delete them. What have we done about it? Since we've been down we've taken multiple steps to secure our platform, including but not limited to: Thoroughly reviewing and updating our codebase. Implementing high-end protections not normally required on a site like ours. Customizing additional server protections to work with some of the limitations we previously faced with our VB4 platform. Hiring our own team of professionals to attempt to hack into our system to ensure our efforts have been effective. What are we doing going forward? Even the biggest corporations with many more resources than us have been hacked in the past. Once someone becomes the target of this illegal act it's hard to say if anyone could 100% guarantee they could prevent it. We certainly never thought we were important enough to become the target for something as cruel as this. Now that we know there are forces out there who wish to weaken your support base, and who will go to great lengths and expense to do so, we will remain focused on monitoring and improving our defenses on a regular basis. We will also begin working on building out a new site over the coming months, which will provide even more benefits to our users. We have listed to your requested and these will all be taken into account with the new site. Some additions will include: Credit Card payments- Blocking of users-There will be more and as you request them will we liaise with our developers to have all these implemented. We initially stated that we will be live on Wednesday but as need to extend this till Sunday (24th) as we do not want to "jump the gun". We will only put the site online only if it it secure and we can assure members that the site will be secure from future attacks which come Sunday we are confident we will be.
We are extremely apologetic and we will do better to ensure our members can feel safe to again use our platform. This has been a wake-up call and we have taken this seriously and we will assure members that moving forward, the privacy and security of both members and our site is paramount. What can you do? If you're concerned about your anonymity, start operating using best practices if you haven't already: Create and use an email address not associated to your personal life in any way. Use a VPN when connecting to the site (given our new security measures, you will likely need to make sure the VPN address is US-based). Do not save private messages you're not comfortable potentially being exposed. Instead copymessages you wish to save to your personal device and delete them from our system, and make sureyour personal device is secure. These tips should be applied to any site or service where you value your privacy above all else. Warm Regards, Admin.
Use a VPN when connecting to the site (given our new security measures, you will likely need to make sure the VPN address is US-based). Do not save private messages you're not comfortable potentially being exposed. Instead copymessages you wish to save to your personal device and delete them from our system, and make sureyour personal device is secure. These tips should be applied to any site or service where you value your privacy above all else. Warm Regards, Admin.
Literally makes zero sense to block international VPN's.
Also deleting sensitive PM's aren't 100% because if the receiving side doesn't delete it, you're still f'ed.
Besides confusing correlation with causation, your referenced URL has horribly low resolution for a state's political affiliation. "Red" vs "Blue" sounds like a roosterteeth production.
It would be much more meaningful to view this information as a gradient: how Republican or Democrat is a given state? Better yet would be a visualization and point plot of the federal aid spending breakdown and political leaning by county.I agree with you, the more granular the data is, the more facts and trends you know. Let me know if you find information on such granularity as you described.
In the meantime, the best correlation we have is that, overall and with few exceptions, Red states are leeches subsidized by Blue states.
WarpFactor69
07-20-22, 13:17
From Twitter:What happened? On June 26th our site was hacked by a professional hacking group who claims to have been paid by a competitor to steal our database and publish it. When we activated our twitter account to let users know of our status we were verbally attacked andthreaten by a particular user who also knew details about our database that someone without direct access to it shouldn't know. This user has apparently been doing her best to shut down sites like ours that she's allegedly workedfor in the past. You can draw your own conclusions as to her involvement with this illegal attackI wonder who the "she" is.
Pussyholic
07-20-22, 17:06
I wonder who the "she" is.I am guessing it's her:
https://twitter.com/tat_dena
Pussyholic
07-20-22, 18:35
What did they steal? Usernames, email addresses, IP addresses, saved private messages. This is the first time TNA has publicly acknowledged that IP addresses were stolen as part of the database, although the hackers mentioned this also in their blackmail note, without providing an example of the stolen IP data. I am not too worried as I have been diligent at always using a VPN, but I am also curious for how long TNA kept IP logs. Could somebody with a throwaway Twitter handle ask this question of @ tnaboard ?
I don't think you can ever have a site that can stay 100% neutral. I think this site is great for spotting the bullshit and for men being men who frequent the business, even if it's not super welcoming to the ladies of the night. I think a TNA style site is great for covering the other half of the equation, giving the girls a 'safe place' so to speak. I've talked to one provider post-TNA shutdown, and she's mostly upset at not having a place to vet johns and their reputations. That and her fear of having her info hacked and everything distributed. But she's in a vulnerable position, being a regular gal who took up the trade to pay the bills last year. I think most of the TNA girls would just be annoyed at being doxxed. But those are also the girls who get the most complaints on here, so there ya go.
As for the rest. States-level rights rock (in my fence-sitting humble libertarian opinion, LOL) and I think you're far more likely to see some states where some things are restricted and some things are wide open, with the state next door being the opposite. Being able to choose to say, come to blue Oregon and enjoy the drugs and prostitution for a weekend (you know they're going to legalize it here, just give it time), then go home to your red state where there aren't homeless on every street corner, well, 'Murica! If that means folks have to travel out of state to buy mags and ammo OR to get their last-minute abortions and drugs, that's better than having restrictive country-wide rules that piss off one half and please the other half of the voting populace, and maybe this will start helping to cool things down instead of polarizing everyone to opposite ends of the spectrum once the true meaning of states rights soaks into everyone's collective consciousness.Well said. Couldn't agree more. It's the 10th Amendment.
This is the first time TNA has publicly acknowledged that IP addresses were stolen as part of the database, although the hackers mentioned this also in their blackmail note, without providing an example of the stolen IP data. I am not too worried as I have been diligent at always using a VPN, but I am also curious for how long TNA kept IP logs. Could somebody with a throwaway Twitter handle ask this question of @ tnaboard ?Even if they have IP addresses, what can the world do with them? Sure, your ISP has the assignment, and other sites may aggregate and sell the data, but it's unlikely that it would ever actually point back to you personally. And even if it does, what proof is there that the data wasn't fabricated?
NachoCheese
07-20-22, 22:02
Literally makes zero sense to block international VPN's.What's worse is that they're likely going to block tor if they haven't already, not that a Cloudflared site isn't already a pain to use with tor, but for a site that's so concerned with "valuing privacy," it doesn't get much more bone-headed than that.
I agree with you, the more granular the data is, the more facts and trends you know. Let me know if you find information on such granularity as you described.
In the meantime, the best correlation we have is that, overall and with few exceptions, Red states are leeches subsidized by Blue states.You're doing it again. Here's an alternative hypothesis that hopefully better illustrates my point: States without large international freight ports are leeches subsidized by states with large international freight ports.
While there are still exceptions to that statement, there's an even stronger positive correlation of this hypothesis in the supporting data, but it is still not a clear indication of causation.
Additionally I can't agree with calling red states (or states without large international freight ports) leeches. In your last post you stated that "Most Red states can only survive by leeching off wealthy blue states," which is fine since you used leeching as a verb, but switching to a noun is a slippery slope, and descending into dehumanization and tribalism isn't my idea of a productive Wednesday.
Even if they have IP addresses, what can the world do with them? Sure, your ISP has the assignment, and other sites may aggregate and sell the data, but it's unlikely that it would ever actually point back to you personally. And even if it does, what proof is there that the data wasn't fabricated?Not much. Besides it being trivially easy to change your ISP provided IP address, even if someone were to correlate your IP address to you visiting the site, so what?
What's worse is that they're likely going to block tor if they haven't already, not that a Cloudflared site isn't already a pain to use with tor, but for a site that's so concerned with "valuing privacy," it doesn't get much more bone-headed than that.Agreed. It makes no sense to block international IPs. My only guess is that they think this will somehow prevent foreign attackers. But those same attackers could just tunnel through a domestic IP themselves.
Tor may not be explicitly blocked, but any non-domestic exit nodes sound like they will be by virture of their physical location anyway.
It's pretty funny too. For a site like TNA that seemed to have mininal js play, it would be advantageous for them to run a no-js, no-script variant of their site. Just pass every request through servers, which seemed to be happening largely in their archaic setup anyway.
The only thing that a no-js site kind of kills is e2 e where the server can never know your secrets. You can encrypt-at-rest in a server-only framework, but at some point that server will have to encrypt / decrypt in memory, which could cause an issue if an attacker plays mitm. With js, you could store encrypted creds on the server then decrypt them locally in brower, then encrypt with decrypted creds, such that the server never gets access to the decrypted data. But even then an attacker could inject malicious js and mitm the client-side decryption / encryption.
Really the only way to solve that is via an installed app where the hash matches peer reviewed code to be sure the server can never grab secrets.
Even if they have IP addresses, what can the world do with them? Sure, your ISP has the assignment, and other sites may aggregate and sell the data, but it's unlikely that it would ever actually point back to you personally. And even if it does, what proof is there that the data wasn't fabricated?I can't trust that site anymore.
Someone has it in for them. These people want to do damage to the members.
Does anyone find it interesting that the twitter account was inactive for over a decade?
NachoCheese
07-21-22, 15:24
Tor may not be explicitly blocked, but any non-domestic exit nodes sound like they will be by virture of their physical location anyway.Cloudflare will challenge requests from tor exit nodes with nearly continual captchas due to the sheer volume of automated malicious traffic that passes through them unless the site operator fully disables that behavior on the Cloudflare console, which nobody does. That's on top of new circuits with different exit nodes being created every few minutes, many of which won't be domestic as you correctly point out.
The only thing that a no-js site kind of kills is e2 e where the server can never know your secrets. You can encrypt-at-rest in a server-only framework, but at some point that server will have to encrypt / decrypt in memory, which could cause an issue if an attacker plays mitm. With js, you could store encrypted creds on the server then decrypt them locally in brower, then encrypt with decrypted creds, such that the server never gets access to the decrypted data. But even then an attacker could inject malicious js and mitm the client-side decryption / encryption.Yes, though e2 e is nonsensical for a review board. The majority of the data being uploaded is either intended for a wide audience through public posts, or a narrow audience through private messages without any kind of trust framework in place. Encrypting a public post would therefore be completely pointless, and encrypting private messages only make sense if you can verify that you received the correct recipient private keys.
Based on TNA's track record, I'm not holding my breath.
Really the only way to solve that is via an installed app where the hash matches peer reviewed code to be sure the server can never grab secrets.Imagine Apple or Google approving that app on their store.
I can't trust that site anymore.
Someone has it in for them. These people want to do damage to the members.
Does anyone find it interesting that the twitter account was inactive for over a decade?I wouldn't put much stock into their inactive Twitter. Likely they grabbed the handle specifically to be used as an information disseminator for events just like this. That or they had marketing ambitions that were promptly abandonded.
As far as trust: I'm not sure you should have ever trusted them in the first place. You potentially had reputation-ruining spi on it, and no assurance your data was safe. They were running outdated forum software on outdated php, likely on an outdated os, and potentially even on vunerability-ridden firmware. I wouldn't trust them aby more than I do this site, which operates on http, which means absolutely all your information is sent in clear text. What that means is that anyone on the same network as you can see all the info you send and receive: username, password, posts, messages. But that site was and this site is still best in class.
Imo, it's more likely that a group targeted TNA because they were running outdated software with known vunerabilities. The group probably recognized that people had sensitive info and would be easily scammed into paying to keep it from "being leaked". But in reality, paying doesn't stop the info from being leaked. They also probably tried to target the site owners thinking they would pay up instead of risking their reputation. Both targets would be unlikely to go to LE due to the nature of the site.
In reality, you should treat any data that isn't end-to-end encrypted* as potentially exploitable. You may trust some institutions more than others, but I wouldn't put much trust into any site where your activity could burn your reputation.
*Only trust e2 e if you are the sole owner of your keys, and you've verified they are never sent off of your local device. In which casw they are only as secure as your device.
I wouldn't put much stock into their inactive Twitter. Likely they grabbed the handle specifically to be used as an information disseminator for events just like this. That or they had marketing ambitions that were promptly abandonded.
As far as trust: I'm not sure you should have ever trusted them in the first place. You potentially had reputation-ruining spi on it, and no assurance your data was safe. They were running outdated forum software on outdated php, likely on an outdated os, and potentially even on vunerability-ridden firmware. I wouldn't trust them aby more than I do this site, which operates on http, which means absolutely all your information is sent in clear text. What that means is that anyone on the same network as you can see all the info you send and receive: username, password, posts, messages. But that site was and this site is still best in class.
Imo, it's more likely that a group targeted TNA because they were running outdated software with known vunerabilities. The group probably recognized that people had sensitive info and would be easily scammed into paying to keep it from "being leaked". But in reality, paying doesn't stop the info from being leaked. They also probably tried to target the site owners thinking they would pay up instead of risking their reputation. Both targets would be unlikely to go to LE due to the nature of the site.
In reality, you should treat any data that isn't end-to-end encrypted* as potentially exploitable. You may trust some institutions more than others, but I wouldn't put much trust into any site where your activity could burn your reputation.
*Only trust e2 e if you are the sole owner of your keys, and you've verified they are never sent off of your local device. In which casw they are only as secure as your device.Other types of message boards are also targets. Sports boards and cooking boards are just as frequently hacked and mined for information.
From Twitter:
We have to delay the live date to Sunday the 24th as we need to ensure security of our site. We are almost here after days of testing. Here is what happend.
This is a copy and paste of the information on their Twitter account. Not going to take the time to put in the paragraphs or correct typos.
What happened? On June 26th our site was hacked by a professional hacking group who claims to have been paid by a competitor to steal our database and publish it. When we activated our twitter account to let users know of our status we were verbally attacked andthreaten by a particular user who also knew details about our database that someone without direct access to it shouldn't know. This user has apparently been doing her best to shut down sites like ours that she's allegedly workedfor in the past. You can draw your own conclusions as to her involvement with this illegal attack. The hackers also gained access to our backups and deleted them. Luckily we had an offline backup, although it is 2 weeks older than the date of the attack. So recent data will no longer exist. The hackers then started emailing certain users extortion attempts. *Note: Every single user who was extorted received the same threatening email and given the same Bitcoin address to submit payment to. This means that they have no way of knowing YOU sent them payment. So, they are either going to publish everything anyway, or they are not publishing anything and it was a scare tactic to steal money from people. In either case, you should not pay them a cent. What did they steal? Usernames, email addresses, IP addresses, saved private messages. They sat on this information for over a week. Given that this attack was specifically geared towards removing a platform from the internet that is intended to provide a safe environment for people to connect, and to extort it's users, we can be assured that anything they publish will have been modified by them to cause the most damage. Nothing published can be considered true or accurate information. What did they NOT steal? Real names, physical addresses, passwords, deleted private messages. As you know we do not collect personal information for Hobbyist accounts. Documentation submitted by providers for age verification never reaches our servers in any way and is stored offline, so none of this information was compromised.
Passwords were hashed and salted. This means it is very unlikely they would have access to this data. Still, in your best interest you should change your password to any site where you use the same username / email. Password combination. Private messages are permanently removed from the database when you delete them. What have we done about it? Since we've been down we've taken multiple steps to secure our platform, including but not limited to: Thoroughly reviewing and updating our codebase. Implementing high-end protections not normally required on a site like ours. Customizing additional server protections to work with some of the limitations we previously faced with our VB4 platform. Hiring our own team of professionals to attempt to hack into our system to ensure our efforts have been effective. What are we doing going forward? Even the biggest corporations with many more resources than us have been hacked in the past. Once someone becomes the target of this illegal act it's hard to say if anyone could 100% guarantee they could prevent it. We certainly never thought we were important enough to become the target for something as cruel as this. Now that we know there are forces out there who wish to weaken your support base, and who will go to great lengths and expense to do so, we will remain focused on monitoring and improving our defenses on a regular basis. We will also begin working on building out a new site over the coming months, which will provide even more benefits to our users. We have listed to your requested and these will all be taken into account with the new site. Some additions will include: Credit Card payments- Blocking of users-There will be more and as you request them will we liaise with our developers to have all these implemented. We initially stated that we will be live on Wednesday but as need to extend this till Sunday (24th) as we do not want to "jump the gun". We will only put the site online only if it it secure and we can assure members that the site will be secure from future attacks which come Sunday we are confident we will be.
We are extremely apologetic and we will do better to ensure our members can feel safe to again use our platform. This has been a wake-up call and we have taken this seriously and we will assure members that moving forward, the privacy and security of both members and our site is paramount. What can you do? If you're concerned about your anonymity, start operating using best practices if you haven't already: Create and use an email address not associated to your personal life in any way. Use a VPN when connecting to the site (given our new security measures, you will likely need to make sure the VPN address is US-based). Do not save private messages you're not comfortable potentially being exposed. Instead copymessages you wish to save to your personal device and delete them from our system, and make sureyour personal device is secure. These tips should be applied to any site or service where you value your privacy above all else. Warm Regards, Admin.Wow. For all we know, the goverment now has the information.
I don't believe a word they say.
The * Twitter account deleted their tweet that said they'd be opening back up tomorrow / Sunday, and they haven't Tweeted or posted anything to clarify.
Would really like to know what's actually going on. I doubt the story that a competitor brought them down (perhaps that's what the hackers said, but I doubt it's true). But I wonder if the board was more compromised / damaged than they've let on so far.
Said it before and I'll say it again: Why providers choose to pay for that site is beyond me.
It's unreliable, is offline far too often, and only serves to create animus within the community providers need to survive.
The only draw I can see is toxic: people can snipe at each other with often baseless accusations and misleading statements.
Anyway, rant over, and for the providers reading this, take a minute and think about it. TNA is a shitshow and you're the ones suffering.Almost a month later.
Private information was hacked and the site is still down.
HankChristine
07-25-22, 16:29
Looks like they got the site back up, but at lease when I went to look there was no content loaded at all.
Guess we will see how much the providers missed it / were able to get by with other sites.
Even if they have IP addresses, what can the world do with them? Sure, your ISP has the assignment, and other sites may aggregate and sell the data, but it's unlikely that it would ever actually point back to you personally. And even if it does, what proof is there that the data wasn't fabricated?Not much. Most people have WiFi routers and it's difficult to prove that your device operating within that WiFi router did the specified activities.
You're doing it again. Here's an alternative hypothesis that hopefully better illustrates my point: States without large international freight ports are leeches subsidized by states with large international freight ports.
While there are still exceptions to that statement, there's an even stronger positive correlation of this hypothesis in the supporting data, but it is still not a clear indication of causation.
What you have is mere speculation. Whereas there is the actual data that Blue States, as a whole, give billions more Federal tax money than they receive.
I can easily speculate that the blue / red deficit would worse if Blue states actually charge red states to use their big freight ports. Because red states are using them for free.
Looks like they got the site back up, but at lease when I went to look there was no content loaded at all.
Guess we will see how much the providers missed it / were able to get by with other sites.Zero redesign. Seems they prioritized getting up and running over a quality experience, which only means nothing has changed at TNA.
Just seeing the interface resurfaces the terrible feelings that site gives. Given that nothing has changed on its face, I'd expect the things we all hate. Entitled providers, honest reviews removed, etc. - to be even worse in this iteration. The site owners clearly make good money if they went through the trouble to recreate it. They'll cater even harder to providers and that will only diminish the experience for hobbyists further.
I have no idea if the underlying architecture has changed. At this point, I'd assume not. Assume it's the same old TNA, just worse.
(I remember the good 'ol days when the site was actually moderated pretty fairly by Mr. J. I hope he's doing well.).
TmiSmith2000
07-26-22, 21:23
I think you are right. Nothing will change except prices will go up even more to make up for lost wages.
Zero redesign. Seems they prioritized getting up and running over a quality experience, which only means nothing has changed at TNA.
Just seeing the interface resurfaces the terrible feelings that site gives. Given that nothing has changed on its face, I'd expect the things we all hate. Entitled providers, honest reviews removed, etc. - to be even worse in this iteration. The site owners clearly make good money if they went through the trouble to recreate it. They'll cater even harder to providers and that will only diminish the experience for hobbyists further.
I have no idea if the underlying architecture has changed. At this point, I'd assume not. Assume it's the same old TNA, just worse.
(I remember the good 'ol days when the site was actually moderated pretty fairly by Mr. J. I hope he's doing well.).
NachoCheese
07-26-22, 23:30
What you have is mere speculation. Whereas there is the actual data that Blue States, as a whole, give billions more Federal tax money than they receive.
I can easily speculate that the blue / red deficit would worse if Blue states actually charge red states to use their big freight ports. Because red states are using them for free.Mere speculation? If you're talking about my assertion of an inverse correlation between international shipping ports and federal dependency, the actual data on shipping volume through US ports is a google search away for the curious and capable. You're missing my point though, a point that is actually mirrored in the article itself:
But a correlation between states' economic health and political affiliation may reflect economic factors beyond those explained by political philosophy.
"If red states pay less in taxes than they receive in benefits, that's because they are generally poorer and program rules are progressive not because they are 'takers' while blue states are 'donors' in any value-laden sense," says Mark Shepard, assistant professor at the Harvard Kennedy School of Government and faculty research fellow at the National Bureau of Economic Research (NBER).That's followed by a very clear indication that there's a stronger correlation between GDP per Capita and Federal Dependency.
You wouldn't be hating on poor people now, would you?
HankChristine
07-27-22, 00:58
Looks like they got the site back up, but at lease when I went to look there was no content loaded at all.
Guess we will see how much the providers missed it / were able to get by with other sites.Wonder if they offered cut rate deals to get the providers going again. Or if anyone has heard from the local providers who depended on tna if they had less business without it.
Wonder if they offered cut rate deals to get the providers going again. Or if anyone has heard from the local providers who depended on tna if they had less business without it.They had an announcements that providers would see funds in their account when they logged in, as an apology of sorts.
I think this was on twitter, and then a bunch of comments by providers saying "thanks, we'll need that. " or something to that effect.
So ya, providers are being given free ads to get the place back up and going.
MeeLikeeAsians
07-27-22, 17:08
Almost a month later.
Private information was hacked and the site is still down.Only a fool would've had any of their real info attached to a profile on that site. If anyone had anything other than their ISP available through there, they have nobody to blame for possible losses but themselves.
Member #6858
07-28-22, 22:06
Anyone else kind of come to a realization with TNA being down? I didn't miss it a whole lot LOL most of these pdx hoes are either bland, fat, or just too expensive. Also check out fitbodydreams prices now if you thought they were high before LMAO.
Anyone else kind of come to a realization with TNA being down? I didn't miss it a whole lot LOL most of these pdx hoes are either bland, fat, or just too expensive. Also check out fitbodydreams prices now if you thought they were high before LMAO.
I consider myself pretty well off in salary. I'm sure not the 1% but I'm working in tech and you can do pretty well there.
When I see $500 for an hour, I'm seriously wondering who is keeping up that rate? Maybe there is more wealth in PDX than I thought.
While I do support the providers making more where possible, after all we are all trying to earn the most we can, it just seems like a lot. How many other things in your life do you buy for $500 or more? Of those purchases, how many last only an hour?
And that is low. I think I saw someone post today on Private Delights $1200 an hour, 2 hours min for new clients. And I think it even said it was their first visit here.
Man my life would be easier if dropping a couple grand for a fleeting experience was no big deal.
I consider myself pretty well off in salary. I'm sure not the 1% but I'm working in tech and you can do pretty well there.
When I see $500 for an hour, I'm seriously wondering who is keeping up that rate? Maybe there is more wealth in PDX than I thought.
While I do support the providers making more where possible, after all we are all trying to earn the most we can, it just seems like a lot. How many other things in your life do you buy for $500 or more? Of those purchases, how many last only an hour?
And that is low. I think I saw someone post today on Private Delights $1200 an hour, 2 hours min for new clients. And I think it even said it was their first visit here.
Man my life would be easier if dropping a couple grand for a fleeting experience was no big deal.My theory:
1. Supply of providers in PDX is relatively low still. And of those, ones that are hot women even less so.
2. PDX does not have much Asian competition like Bay Area (where you can get a hot GFE K-girl for less than $3. 0).
3. The many years of cheap money and other stimulus (e. G. , PPP loan forgiveness) made people flush with cash.
There's a poll on TNA right now: https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?2384627-Zero-changes-Thoughts.
More than one-third of respondents are "just grateful" it's back.
On the bright side only 12% actually thought it would actually change. Why'all are blissfully ignorant but not dumb haha.
Any one seen LuLu white recently? I tried seen her before she retired it never worked out. https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?557727-LuLu-White.
TNA is down again. First I got a message that my IP address was banned then a cloudfire error message.
PoorOldMan
08-04-22, 03:01
TNA is down again. First I got a message that my IP address was banned then a cloudfire error message.Better cal Sara so she can put it on her report to the owners. LOL.
Any one seen LuLu white recently? I tried seen her before she retired it never worked out. https://www.tnaboard.com/member.php?557727-LuLu-White.Ever? Yes. Quite a few times. PM if you want more details.
What's the deal with Bosnian bombshell? Menu? What's your experience? Not asking for a friend.
What happened to her?
https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?2318789-Christina-Marie-just-wants-to-say-thank-youVery very nice mature lady. I enjoy her. I went for my birthday once and she even had a cake for me. Good people.
She's kinda going through a rough period on her life, some personal issues and got a boyfriend and he treated her like shot. Blah blah.
I did go over about 2 or 3 months ago and she is always amazing.
Hoping I get a text from her wanting to go again. I think she's just seeing her favorites right now.
Very very nice mature lady. I enjoy her. I went for my birthday once and she even had a cake for me. Good people.
She's kinda going through a rough period on her life, some personal issues and got a boyfriend and he treated her like shot. Blah blah.
I did go over about 2 or 3 months ago and she is always amazing.
Hoping I get a text from her wanting to go again. I think she's just seeing her favorites right now.Hard pass for me. If she was only younger. She doesn't have soft skin. She took it like a champ, didn't tap out, cip cia msog. Nice gated incall. No repeat from me, to each their own, if you like them really old BBFS slamdunk no upsell, then she's your type.
GrandIllusions
10-30-23, 12:10
She sure puts out the vibe like she belongs here, anyone have any experience with her?
She sure puts out the vibe like she belongs here, anyone have any experience with her?I think this is in the wrong forum. She posts to TNA so she absolutely belongs here.
GrandIllusions
10-31-23, 02:34
I think this is in the wrong forum. She posts to TNA so she absolutely belongs here.Ment for the BBFS section.
Pop yourself some popcorn and read this alert thread on TNA. It's got something for everyone. Long screeds on both sides, fake accounts weighing in to support providers, legal threats and possible outings. I suspect the whole thread will be deleted soon.
https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?2683364-Moonshine-took-large-deposit-and-had-me-book-room-then-no-showed
This only adds to my sense that nothing good can come of interacting with that board beyond posting positive reviews. Unhappy? Just don't post a review. And for god's sake don't play in the discussion section. Say one thing "wrong" and your reputation will be burned to a crisp. In this case the evidence and prevailing opinion is that the client was telling more truth than the provider. The provider's initial response wasn't cogent in the least. But it didn't matter the client got threats and is now facing being outed and the provider is $400 richer for doing nothing. Just the information in the thread is probably enough for someone familiar with him to put two and two together. Looks like he will be having a very shitty day today.
EoCowbooy 1
11-06-23, 17:56
Pop yourself some popcorn and read this alert thread on TNA. It's got something for everyone. Long screeds on both sides, fake accounts weighing in to support providers, legal threats and possible outings. I suspect the whole thread will be deleted soon.
https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?2683364-Moonshine-took-large-deposit-and-had-me-book-room-then-no-showed
This only adds to my sense that nothing good can come of interacting with that board beyond posting positive reviews. Unhappy? Just don't post a review. And for god's sake don't play in the discussion section. Say one thing "wrong" and your reputation will be burned to a crisp. In this case the evidence and prevailing opinion is that the client was telling more truth than the provider. The provider's initial response wasn't cogent in the least. But it didn't matter the client got threats and is now facing being outed and the provider is $400 richer for doing nothing. Just the information in the thread is probably enough for someone familiar with him to put two and two together. Looks like he will be having a very shitty day today.Pronouns popular over there are driving me crazy. "They"? Is it a fucking due?
PoontangChaser
11-06-23, 19:07
Pronouns popular over there are driving me crazy. "They"? Is it a fucking due?I once had the misfortune of communicating with (ahem) "her" where I addressed her as Ms. Moonshine. Lost her shit for presuming her gender and asked me to address her as Mx. I told her to go pound sand.
My theory:
1. Supply of providers in PDX is relatively low still. And of those, ones that are hot women even less so.
2. PDX does not have much Asian competition like Bay Area (where you can get a hot GFE K-girl for less than $3. 0).
3. The many years of cheap money and other stimulus (e. G. , PPP loan forgiveness) made people flush with cash.I can fly to barbadois and have a week of some of the most hottest chicks for under 1000 for new one every night including hotel. They're like 85 bones but smokin.
I just saw some rates at 425 and 500 bucks. I'm like no way.
Not trying to be cheap, but there is a line and they cross it at 300.00 and they better be fun. I just don't get it.
Somebody must be paying it because they keep posting it and if just quit, the prices will come down. Everyone has to eat. Think I'll sit out awhile and see what's what.
Again not trying to be cheap, but this is outrageous for what you're not getting. Just my thoughts.
I can fly to barbadois and have a week of some of the most hottest chicks for under 1000 for new one every night including hotel. They're like 85 bones but smokin.
I just saw some rates at 425 and 500 bucks. I'm like no way.
Not trying to be cheap, but there is a line and they cross it at 300.00 and they better be fun. I just don't get it.
Somebody must be paying it because they keep posting it and if just quit, the prices will come down. Everyone has to eat. Think I'll sit out awhile and see what's what.
Again not trying to be cheap, but this is outrageous for what you're not getting. Just my thoughts.All safety no BBBJ! WTF!
Pop yourself some popcorn and read this alert thread on TNA. It's got something for everyone. Long screeds on both sides, fake accounts weighing in to support providers, legal threats and possible outings. I suspect the whole thread will be deleted soon.
https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?2683364-Moonshine-took-large-deposit-and-had-me-book-room-then-no-showed
This only adds to my sense that nothing good can come of interacting with that board beyond posting positive reviews. Unhappy? Just don't post a review. And for god's sake don't play in the discussion section. Say one thing "wrong" and your reputation will be burned to a crisp. In this case the evidence and prevailing opinion is that the client was telling more truth than the provider. The provider's initial response wasn't cogent in the least. But it didn't matter the client got threats and is now facing being outed and the provider is $400 richer for doing nothing. Just the information in the thread is probably enough for someone familiar with him to put two and two together. Looks like he will be having a very shitty day today.What an absolute incoherent mess that was. I couldn't read 90% of it. This is basically the worst of the worst about that board from providers to WKs. I never comment on there any longer. I don't give reviews. I go there to see if some of my regulars are posting. Just absolutely toxic behavior.
What an absolute incoherent mess that was. I couldn't read 90% of it. This is basically the worst of the worst about that board from providers to WKs. I never comment on there any longer. I don't give reviews. I go there to see if some of my regulars are posting. Just absolutely toxic behavior.Haha, that thread has disappeared without a trace (as I predicted) so Moonshine gets away Scot-fret and the hobbyist that posted the alert is fucked.
Haha, that thread has disappeared without a trace (as I predicted) so Moonshine gets away Scot-fret and the hobbyist that posted the alert is fucked.Okay my last post on this. A different provider reported:
The owners here have made it clear that as long as you put money into their pockets, you can do whatever you want, even when there is hard proof of rules being violated! LUCKILY the hobbyist reached out to me and let me know that the authorities have his phone so hopefully she will be held accountable. I know for a damn fact I will NOT be covering for her if they reach out to me seeing as I had contact with him.
(Yes a PROVIDER said that!)
https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?992181-It-s-unfortunate-when-threads-are-deleted&p=14264236&viewfull=1#post14264236.
Okay my last post on this. A different provider reported:
The owners here have made it clear that as long as you put money into their pockets, you can do whatever you want, even when there is hard proof of rules being violated! LUCKILY the hobbyist reached out to me and let me know that the authorities have his phone so hopefully she will be held accountable. I know for a damn fact I will NOT be covering for her if they reach out to me seeing as I had contact with him.
(Yes a PROVIDER said that!)
https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?992181-It-s-unfortunate-when-threads-are-deleted&p=14264236&viewfull=1#post14264236.Sara Foxxx said that the fellas on this site are in support of Moonshine on don't believe or don't care that he was ripped off. I did a search and don't find anything to support her claim. She also suggested that Moonshine was offering BBFS. That may be true but I hadn't heard that she did. I have seen her and didn't get BBFS she didn't give me the vibe that it would be. The two providers that were defending the guy that got rippped of. Sara and Layla Rain are queens of the alert section. It seems fishy that they are whinig openly about board ownership.
Haha, that thread has disappeared without a trace (as I predicted) so Moonshine gets away Scot-fret and the hobbyist that posted the alert is fucked.And she is back posting ads today, with nothing but green jellybeans.
Okay my last post on this. A different provider reported:
The owners here have made it clear that as long as you put money into their pockets, you can do whatever you want, even when there is hard proof of rules being violated! LUCKILY the hobbyist reached out to me and let me know that the authorities have his phone so hopefully she will be held accountable. I know for a damn fact I will NOT be covering for her if they reach out to me seeing as I had contact with him.
(Yes a PROVIDER said that!)
https://www.tnaboard.com/showthread.php?992181-It-s-unfortunate-when-threads-are-deleted&p=14264236&viewfull=1#post14264236.Man, am I glad I don't engage in that absolute shit show any longer. Reminds me of back in the day when the most infamous they / them lost her collective schizophrenic mind and started outing people who were on this board or who she claimed were misgendering her, but at least, she got permanently banned. That's not happening now apparently. Wow. I'd rather go to the other boards that are supposedly less safe.
TheDinoKing
02-09-24, 14:35
CindyLin has returned back to downtown Portland. You can see her profile in TNA. She is a 5'9 Chinese American beauty around 100-105 pounds. Very petite with a nice small yet well shaped ass. Every single one of you has to see her. She is one of the best and she just about does everything. Before she use to allow bare but not so much now or not at all. Perhaps if you pay extra she might. But gets everyone check her out. You will thank me later.
CindyLin has returned back to downtown Portland. You can see her profile in TNA. She is a 5'9 Chinese American beauty around 100-105 pounds. Very petite with a nice small yet well shaped ass. Every single one of you has to see her. She is one of the best and she just about does everything. Before she use to allow bare but not so much now or not at all. Perhaps if you pay extra she might. But gets everyone check her out. You will thank me later.I thought ct crew don't offer BBFS?
TheDinoKing
02-10-24, 13:35
No they don't. But I am telling you what she use to do in Los Angeles. I'm stating maybe with an extra tip she might do it. But she is the best. Everyone seen her.
Sugar Daddy PDX
05-01-24, 12:18
So tna is down for the next twelve hours or so for a major site overhaul. What's the over and under that these changes will make any difference whatsoever on the quality of that board?
So tna is down for the next twelve hours or so for a major site overhaul. What's the over and under that these changes will make any difference whatsoever on the quality of that board?Like the last overhaul that took them down for weeks, which resulted in the same exact board?
TNA is running a very out of date PHP forum board software. The whole thing needs to be rebuilt from scratch. There are so many features that they could add to make everyone's life easier. I assume they make little profit though.
What I honestly find interesting is that the other sites like private delights or tryst don't add in robust review and discussion forums. That is all a community needs. PD has reviews. Reviews need to be not just a set of stars, but rather clear ratings on service, hygene, location, saftey, etc. Escort Alligator has better review categories than TNA, but that site is a wreck of scammers.
I get that there are fears about details and prosecution. But, really, it would be so much better for everyone if there was a better system to find what you are looking for. Happier clients lead to happier providers I bet too.
JuxtaPosedPdx
05-02-24, 00:13
It won't be any better as far as actually truth in advertising goes. The mods don't really give a crap about that as much as how much they can make off the providers who buy premium ad spots.
I recently left a negative review, got threats from the provider and her "Mexican Mafia", reported to TNA with screenshots (rule 4 (no threats), and they didn't do a thing about it until I asked them to just remove the whole review. So it's a win for the provider, a win for TNA looking like there is quality talent there and a lose for the hobbiests.
RammerRammer
05-02-24, 15:02
Some of ya'lls careers are over. All that fake ass work and reputation, estuvo. What are you going to do with your Alt ass barebacker accounts? You'll be searching for free email accounts today. And when you finally arrive back new with nothing, you won't even be able to navigate. Schadenfreude. Wholeheartedly hope that fake ass sight, with all the fat underperforming Providers that ya'll Simp over caves in on itself.
Motherfuckers on the Rip will eat when the TNA 304's diversify. They'll have to take that 60 $ out here. Fuck everthing, only the streets are real.
Pour some liquor Mane.
Sugar Daddy PDX
05-02-24, 15:39
Nice, LOL! So rep is resetting too? I guess I didn't catch that. Damn, I've been building my fake rep over there for years! LOL.
Some of ya'lls careers are over. All that fake ass work and reputation, estuvo. What are you going to do with your Alt ass barebacker accounts? You'll be searching for free email accounts today. And when you finally arrive back new with nothing, you won't even be able to navigate. Schadenfreude. Wholeheartedly hope that fake ass sight, with all the fat underperforming Providers that ya'll Simp over caves in on itself.
Motherfuckers on the Rip will eat when the TNA 304's diversify. They'll have to take that 60 $ out here. Fuck everthing, only the streets are real.
Pour some liquor Mane.
Nice, LOL! So rep is resetting too? I guess I didn't catch that. Damn, I've been building my fake rep over there for years! LOL.There isn't a fire extinguisher big enough to put out that dumpster fire over on the GPS site.
There isn't a fire extinguisher big enough to put out that dumpster fire over on the GPS site.It's already been six months since I've seen a new provider from that board and I may just abandon it at this point. What an absolute needless self-own. At least for me it's "just a hobby". I do feel some empathy for providers who had established some kind of funnel leading to regular business as that is all going to blow up for at least a few weeks.
To be honest though after hanging around on that board for a year and a half 90% or more of the ads were from the same 50 or so providers. Very little in the way of new providers. My guess is that ladies will see an uptick of traffic on tryst (but I've also been hearing of an increase of scams on that platform).
It's already been six months since I've seen a new provider from that board and I may just abandon it at this point. What an absolute needless self-own. At least for me it's "just a hobby". I do feel some empathy for providers who had established some kind of funnel leading to regular business as that is all going to blow up for at least a few weeks.
To be honest though after hanging around on that board for a year and a half 90% or more of the ads were from the same 50 or so providers. Very little in the way of new providers. My guess is that ladies will see an uptick of traffic on tryst (but I've also been hearing of an increase of scams on that platform).I saw Heartie post that she's considering leaving the board and only seeing her regulars. I was under the impression that she was championing the changes too. I think a lot of the ladies are going to have to re-examine their business model very soon. The site was good for locating talent but it was stagnant and allowed the robs and thieving scum to get a pass if they were paying the site or had some type of TNA cred. I suspect the board is on life support. STG is going to explode.
BookOfMorty
05-03-24, 01:51
I saw Heartie post that she's considering leaving the board and only seeing her regulars. I was under the impression that she was championing the changes too. I think a lot of the ladies are going to have to re-examine their business model very soon. The site was good for locating talent but it was stagnant and allowed the robs and thieving scum to get a pass if they were paying the site or had some type of TNA cred. I suspect the board is on life support. STG is going to explode.The site right now is an utter train wreck. They basically took everything good about TNA, took it out back and went to town on it with a baseball bat. Then, they took everything bad and doubled down on it. I very much expect to see other sites absolutely explode. Right now providers themselves don't even know how to post. Things as simple as sending a message to someone or deleting a message are vague and complicated.
At the end of the day, there were a few little nice things about TNA. I've never dealt with any fakes on or deposit scammers on that site and with the reviews / vouches / post history available for all to see, its pretty easy to figure out if someone is law enforcement or if they're a bunch of gang members waiting to jump you in a motel room. But man, right now its hard to look at what's going on over there.
Brickleton
05-03-24, 19:54
How did they wind up taking something that was easy to use and make it so much harder? The usefulness of the site has always been debatable but at least it was easy to use.
Well I signed in and surveyed the damage. With a free account I have no ability to post new reviews, threads, isos or anything. I had to delete a bunch of messages so my very limited inbox had capacity. I can send pms and read message so at least I can contact girls and they can see my vouches and rep, if not my reviews, so I can eke some use out of it, but it's not something I'd ever pay for, and I'd guess most will move to PD or tryst.
RamblinJavlin
05-05-24, 13:09
Well I signed in and surveyed the damage. With a free account I have no ability to post new reviews, threads, isos or anything. I had to delete a bunch of messages so my very limited inbox had capacity. I can send pms and read message so at least I can contact girls and they can see my vouches and rep, if not my reviews, so I can eke some use out of it, but it's not something I'd ever pay for, and I'd guess most will move to PD or tryst.Yeah, I cant see my TDL, and the format sucks. It absolutely sucks. I'll probably just delete my account.
RammerRammer
05-05-24, 13:52
All those fat underperformers got the best reality check with the April slowdown and TNA fuck up. All this will benefit the Streets.
JeffAllStar
05-05-24, 19:04
All those fat underperformers got the best reality check with the April slowdown and TNA fuck up. All this will benefit the Streets.This! Very true. Another failed site which means incoming more to the lesser sites and streets. Only downfall is there wasn't much worthy talent left in that site.
This! Very true. Another failed site which means incoming more to the lesser sites and streets. Only downfall is there wasn't much worthy talent left in that site.The prices are out of control, I'm sorry, the market is slowing and things are going to get very slow. The gals better be ready to do some price slashing. I'm telling you the real estate market, inflation the stock market. Maybe they get back to 275 to 300 bucks.
We will see.
TrimSchlong3
05-09-24, 23:58
Been so long since I had to enter my password that I don't know what it is and I can't get logged on. Plus there's no link to reset a forgotten password.
Stripped Thred
05-10-24, 15:02
Yeah, I cant see my TDL, and the format sucks. It absolutely sucks. I'll probably just delete my account.I read somewhere prior to the upgrade that the TDL wouldn't carry forward and would no longer be available.
BookOfMorty
05-10-24, 17:09
I read somewhere prior to the upgrade that the TDL wouldn't carry forward and would no longer be available.They restored the TDL the other day. The site is basically back to normal function. It looks weird and amateurish but all the prior basic stuff is there.
Asked for selfies and get attitude from booker / providers here.
Asking for $3-5 xx LOL what a joke.
No more wasted trips or TOFTTs. Selfies or next.
Even CT girls.
Just got back from the East. 18-21 girls everywhere for next to nothing.
Very hot and slim bodies.
Or get a 21 yo GF.
F feminist America.
PdxHobbiest
06-28-24, 22:18
https://www.tnaboard.com/community/threads/ghosted-me.2841566/
Looks like her pimp decided to rob someone else. I wonder how long til the mods remove another alert about her.
Any info on this londen chick from tnaboard? Thanks in advance.
https://www.tnaboard.com/community/members/londen.621049/recent-ads
So, now that we've had six months of the sand at TNA Board shifting under our feet, how do we like it now?
I've gotten used to it, and overall, I can't say I prefer it or not compared to the older design. To me it's a wash, and is just a different way to get the same info I used to.
I like not having to manage my Messages, and for correspondence to be kept in "Conversations" that can be monitored as to when people in the conversation have seen them.
I don't like the latest wrinkle, a tight control on LMA ads.
I also don't like the redacting of "alphabet soup". This only encourages those lame reviews with no informational quality in them whatsoever. Those are a waste of my time. "I went to see *name of provider*. Had a great time. I won't go into any details, but. " Well, why did you bother even posting a review?
So, now that we've had six months of the sand at TNA Board shifting under our feet, how do we like it now?
I also don't like the redacting of "alphabet soup". This only encourages those lame reviews with no informational quality in them whatsoever. Those are a waste of my time. "I went to see *name of provider*. Had a great time. I won't go into any details, but. " Well, why did you bother even posting a review?I won't share details is the fucking worst! At a bare minimum, is she BBBJ or not.
The new design. It's fine. I do hate that ladies can no longer comment on ISOs and we can no longer see who looked at ISOs or who looked at any post. In the past if a guy posted an iso for, let's say, a provider that will wear reindeer antlers, a lady could publicly respond, signaling to all the reindeer antler fetish guys that she's into it. Now we all have to post our own reindeer antler ISO and we have no idea if anyone is looking or who they may be. It was just easier when I could see that SexyVixen would fuck me with antlers on and just schedule her.
Also, what the hell with the snowflakes? The site looks like it's designed for kids! It's a hooker board. I'm there to get pussy, I don't need it to be snowing.
Legit great time. RBGFE type cfs BBBJ daty dfk. Reasonable rates.
She's pretty. Slim but with great tits and a grabbable ass just my cup of tea. Nice personality. Prompt and straightforward. Stays in mid level hotel and tries hard to make sure you stay out of the lobby. Repeat.
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