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Would you care to elaborate on the bar (s) that have predominately Thai girls?
I feel Evergreen seems to have the best mix. 1 or 2 girls circulate thru there from various non-Korean countries, but they don't seem to stick around for long. If there's a club that leans toward the Thai persuasion, I'd sure love to find it.
Thanks in advance
Kathy's Place in Kalihi, Club Bankok on Queen St and another I can't remember.
You should never get stuck sitting with a girl or buying her drinks if you do not like her. Just tell her "next time" or "maybe later" in a nice way.
Thanks Tiantian,
Let this be a lesson to everyone. Don't make the mistakes that I did when I started. Wish I knew about this site back then.
Niner Whiner
01-12-08, 05:15
Actually in addition to what was posted here are others. Many of the patrons of kb's/vb's are not in their 20's but older. They don't like the club scene or sports bar scene so need someplace else to relax and have a few. Unlike many places on the mainland, many of us would rather go to a kb and not worry about trying to hook up with a girl at a regular bar. To me IMHO that is a bigger crapshoot. At least at the kb's and vb's the girls working know the score so a guy can hook up with a girl for a few drinks without worrying about all the emotional crap going on at a regular bar.
As others have said, we also go to kb's to relax with friends and have a few. No need to sit with the girls, but nice to watch as some of them wear some sexy outfits.
Unlike AMP's, to get fs isn't the primary reason we go to kb's, yes it's great if that is the end result but for many of the older guys (especially over 50 or 60), to have a young girl fawn over you and spend time with you, the kb's and vb's are probably the only places where they can sit with a girl many years younger and not be out of place.
And then there is the thrill of the hunt to try to hook up with a kb or vb girl.
Besides, how many hot looking girls at pick up bars would even think about sitting with some ordinary looking or older guy.True, there are lots of eye candy to be seen, but I've met a lot of old timers who go to the bars to eat and drink for free...some of them are retired carpenters or electricians who fix things that get broken...some are fishermen who bring fish, crab, seaweed, tako, etc...some guys bring the beer from the storage into the coolers... some of these girls like having "non-customers" around for safety and/or conversation during the slow times.
Hwnfrontier
01-15-08, 06:25
Kathy's Place in Kalihi,Where in kalihi is this place and are they nice looking chicks working.
Where in kalihi is this place and are they nice looking chicks working.
Haven't been inside Kathy's Place, but it's located at 1336 Dillingham Boulevard, slightly southeast of the Waiakamilo Road intersection.
808scorpio
01-17-08, 17:58
Which bar(s) has a high turnover?
girls that come for a short time from the mainland or outside? I like new girls better. My friends like the locals, but they're not my preferance.
I have frequented Romantei in the past, but i still see some of the same faces and some of them you don't want to see again, for whatever reason.
Thanks in advance.
808scorpio
01-17-08, 18:05
Wow I have 2 memberships? haha.
Haven't read any info for while on the champagne room at Sky lounge or do they even call it that there?
My real question is: How much can I expect to pay for action there and is it worth it or is it a ripoff like I read in previous posts a while back?
I know Misty I has play available from certain girls for a lot less than $$$ but sometimes depends on whether you're a regular and the mood of the girl.
As always YMMV.
CheapCharlie
01-20-08, 01:53
Stopped in last night,been awhile since I've been here. As expected place is practically empty.Total of 5 girls working and 4 guys(including myself). Saw the pretty owner,Liz,Linn,Mailee(?), another girl who I never saw before and the infamous Jennifer. Was surprised and relived that Lily and her protege Lisa weren't there. First one to approach me was Jennifer,made a little small talk;then asked for a good luck drink. Told her maybe later on and left after I told her later about 5 times. Looks like shes starting to put back on the weight that she lost. Long story short,was approached by the other girl who I never saw before and blew her off too. Ended up sitting with Mailee,pretty good GFE;but drinks too fast and needs to slow down. Total of $63 down the toilet.
I stopped by Secret couple nights ago and like usual got Ripped Off by Mailee. She drinks too fast and need to slow down a little bit else that's it. Secret is kinda dead lately. I saw Tracy again and heard she just got back from her vacation. I wonder if anyone know where's Linda go? I haven't see her here for a while. Is she working at a new bar or what?
I am trying to leave the island in style and visiting all my old haunts. Anybody been to Cache lately? Used to hang out with Tracy, but that was two years ago. Stopped by last year and was greeted by a stunner, easily a 9.5, but she knew it and wanted $$$$$. Surely someone has some info.
Curiosity got the better of me and I had to go answer my own question about the Cache tonight. Walked in about midnite and the place was dead. Just the guy who I believe is one of the owners, mama, and some woman cleaning the tables in the back. I ordered a drink and hoped some hot chick would make an appearance. The woman in the back finished up and sat next to me. Damn, she looked better than I thought and she had a huge rack pouring out of her dress. She was older than I was hoping for (mid-thirties), but she was a dead ringer for my neighbor's wife. She probably needs some work on her approach, but she asked if I wanted to have some fun in the back, if I would buy her a drink, and if I was a cop in that order. She asked for $$$, told her I only had $$ plus enough for one drink. Good thing it was a slow night because she accepted. She told me her name was Susie and five minutes after I walked in the door we went to a room in the back. Got CBJ and CFS. My only complaint was she doesn't do doggie. Not too bad considering I wasn't going to go out tonight. Now I can fantasize about my neighbor's wife the next time I see her.
Damn, she looked better than I thought and she had a huge rack pouring out of her dress. She was older than I was hoping for (mid-thirties), but she was a dead ringer for my neighbor's wife.
Wow ... where do you live? lol
Seriously ... how "huge" was the rack? D? DD? bigger? Real or enhanced? Ethnicity?
Aloha!
Seriously ... how "huge" was the rack? D? DD? bigger? Real or enhanced? Ethnicity?
Aloha!She's about a D and they were real. She said she was viet.
Primal Needs
01-24-08, 04:48
I haven't been to Cache in a while, but if you're looking for Tracy, I last saw her at Misty II on Kona street. Not dancing, just working drinks.
Primal Needs
Anyone ever hooked up with any of the bartenders at romantei?
Anyone ever hooked up with any of the bartenders at romantei?No- but I have with one of thier sisters.
Hwnfrontier
01-27-08, 03:43
Anyone ever hooked up with any of the bartenders at romantei?Good luck with that.
Went to Cache just because of the reports on this place. An older gal started talkin to me but I forget her name. 40 somethin, I was pretty drunk. Bought the younger bartender a drink, got FIV for that, I got kinda turned on by smelling my fingers after, forget her name too LOL think it was Judy..
"Judy" asked me repeatedly if I was LE. I kept tellin her no. Just about when I was ready to leave, (my first time there) she asks me if I like anything else. I told her, what you mean by that? She looks at me, looks at the back, points for me to go sit down there.
First she says, $$$ for BJ. I told her you gotta be kidding. I dont have that! Then she asks how much I got. I said I get $.60. she said ok, half and half. I said what is that. She said half BJ, then if I cannot finish then HJ. I said OK, and since I was so wasted I couldnt finish, but I asked her to take the cover off and she said OK.
Blew my load all over her hand, she didnt even flinch, just cleaned me up and told me thank you, come again next time. I told her, what about upstairs? She said no more nothing over there. Come back next time.
To be continued..
Hinode
I haven't been to Cache in a while, but if you're looking for Tracy, I last saw her at Misty II on Kona street. Not dancing, just working drinks.
Primal Needs
Brother PN,
Is that what is upstairs at Cache? Lap dancing? It doesnt look like a SB, nor do the reports indicate it being so..or is that girl Tracy a ex-dancer from another SB or VB? Seriously, I dont know; thanks in advance..
Hinode :cool:
P.S. That bartender had a not so bad looking face, her skin was pretty tight; been a while since I been with a 20 somethin year old (she said she was 21); I wouldnt mind seein her body wrapped around a pole baby~ or even better, wrapped around my pole! LOL!
Primal Needs
01-28-08, 07:45
Brother Hinode,
I have no idea. Sorry. I posted that same question before myself. I've been in the dark, back booths a few times for BJ. The problem is, I was only interested in BJ for a while. When I asked a girl I sat with a few times about what's up there (her name was Christy), she gave me the same answer as you got.
One mongerer posted an answer -sorry, I'm too lazy to look it up-and said FS was available in a back room that was more like a storage closet, on the ground floor. But nothing upstairs.
That's still odd to me, because I've seen people come downstairs before.
I wanna know what's up there, but I haven't been an active mongerer for many, many months. Plus, I was quoted for $$$ for that kind of action, which I wasn't willing to spend. Back then, $$$ meant three times at LH. Memories...
Primal Needs
Brother Hinode,
I have no idea. Sorry. I posted that same question before myself. I've been in the dark, back booths a few times for BJ. The problem is, I was only interested in BJ for a while. When I asked a girl I sat with a few times about what's up there (her name was Christy), she gave me the same answer as you got.
One mongerer posted an answer -sorry, I'm too lazy to look it up-and said FS was available in a back room that was more like a storage closet, on the ground floor. But nothing upstairs.
That's still odd to me, because I've seen people come downstairs before.
I wanna know what's up there, but I haven't been an active mongerer for many, many months. Plus, I was quoted for $$$ for that kind of action, which I wasn't willing to spend. Back then, $$$ meant three times at LH. Memories...
Primal NeedsIf you go upstairs at cache you'll end up on the side of the building outside. thats where they lead to.
Peckerwood
01-28-08, 11:18
There is no upstairs at Cache's, those stairs lead to the driveway outside and theres also a business above them. Unless you guys are talking about a different stairs which I have never seen. I know theres the karaoke room next to the stairs and the backroom in the kitchen both of which I have never been in.
PW
Thumperforq
01-29-08, 03:08
Ladies,
Since so many of you read the boards and are interested in what we think, please go to this link:
http://www.redtube.com/2350
and learn how to give a good bbbj. I'm always available for you to practice on. ;)
Thumperforq
Ladies,
Since so many of you read the boards and are interested in what we think, please go to this link:
http://www.redtube.com/2350
and learn how to give a good bbbj. I'm always available for you to practice on. ;)
Thumperforq
Damn, that girl can suck a dick!
Damn, that girl can suck a dick!Nah, too much hand action.
So who is the stupid ***** who likes to smoke in the bar? She acts like her s**t dont stink.
Night Colors
02-02-08, 19:04
So who is the stupid ***** who likes to smoke in the bar? She acts like her s**t dont stink.
Cool! I'd buy her a drink just for standing up to the oppression. They also have seats right next to the door - can you say advertising what you're doing to the world - it's not legal to smoke in those chairs either, they're too close ( <20 ft ), and it still blows in the bar anyways. So what's the diff?
Most of the places on Kap. blvd are discriminatory to smokers - so we should and do just go elsewhere and support the good places. Places like the old By Nite. I know of at least three smoker friendly places within a half mile of Sandy's. That's why places like Evergreen and Saigon Passion don't see my face in there anymore since they only respect non-smokers.
So who is the stupid ***** who likes to smoke in the bar? She acts like her s**t dont stink.Is she pretty skinny? I don't know her name but she got mad one time when my friend asked her what she was drinking. She is pretty snobby though!!!
Night Colors
02-04-08, 04:35
Is she pretty skinny? I don't know her name but she got mad one time when my friend asked her what she was drinking. She is pretty snobby though!!!
Is she a member of Tiffany's gang? Tiff is cool.
He name is Vickie. She is a C**t. Money sucking bimbo.
Captin Crunch
02-05-08, 02:08
Who is she. What did she do to you?
He name is Vickie. She is a C**t. Money sucking bimbo.
You guyz want action. Go to Club Happiness across Comp usa. They have action there. The girls play.
Another fact is that the girls in the bars are fashion model quality. I mean perfect 10s. A BBBJ or DATY from one of them for $$$ vs. all you can get in an AMP for $$ may be considered a better deal by some.
I'm an AMP guy myself, but definitely see the attraction and stunning beauty of the K/VB girls.I obviously didn't go to the right bar. I live in CA, and go to honolulu 3 or 4 times a year, so I can't play the long game. I don't have time to try to seduce or get to know a gal. I also have almost NO experience with hostessy type bars. I tried to do my homework on these boards without asking any stupid questions. Considering my time restraints and goals I chose LH. I've been there twice, back in June and August of 07. I got satisfaction at a reasonable price from some nice old ladies. Is it kind of like strip clubs, where the higher you go up in quality, the higher the price and the lower the chance of happyfuntime? I certainly didn't see anything at LH that I would consider fashion model quality.
You guyz want action. Go to Club Happiness across Comp usa. They have action there. The girls play.How are the girls?
Is it kind of like strip clubs, where the higher you go up in quality, the higher the price and the lower the chance of happyfuntime? I certainly didn't see anything at LH that I would consider fashion model quality.
Although I don't currently visit hostess bars, when I frequented hostess bars in the past, I found that the proposition you state was generally true: "the higher you go up in quality, the higher the price and the lower the chance of happyfuntime." London Hub (at least the version you visited) wasn't considered an upscale bar. By comparison, if you visit some of the more upscale bars in the Kapiolani Boulevard / Keeaumoku Street area, you will likely see some of the "fashion model quality" ladies mentioned by Hypo Luxa.
Although I don't currently visit hostess bars, when I frequented hostess bars in the past, I found that the proposition you state was generally true: "the higher you go up in quality, the higher the price and the lower the chance of happyfuntime." London Hub (at least the version you visited) wasn't considered an upscale bar. By comparison, if you visit some of the more upscale bars in the Kapiolani Boulevard / Keeaumoku Street area, you will likely see some of the "fashion model quality" ladies mentioned by Hypo Luxa.And these more upscale bars have back rooms but you have to buy overpriced bottles and don't get what you might have gotten at the old LH?
Dan,
Some are pretty hot actually. Some are gross. Nikki is kina gross but more on the easy side. Small, petite, easy to put out.
How are the girls?
And these more upscale bars have back rooms but you have to buy overpriced bottles and don't get what you might have gotten at the old LH?
As I said, I don't currently visit hostess bars (I'm now more focused on relaxation/massage places and downtown street prostitution, which provide more bang for the buck in my opinion), so I don't have recent experience in hostess bars. However, from past experience, at upscale bars with beautiful young women the average customer will have a lower probability of receiving sexual services (either in the bar or away from the bar) and will be spending substantially more if he does receive sexual services. Although a hostess bar with ladies of "fashion model quality" who provide sexual services as easily and at the same cost as in the old London Hub would be a hobbyist's dream, I've never heard of such a bar in Honolulu.
How are the girls?I went there a couple of times the girls are gross, one needed a bath! Another needs to brush her teeth and use mouth wash!
And these more upscale bars have back rooms but you have to buy overpriced bottles and don't get what you might have gotten at the old LH?
Nowadays, don't expect much at the kb's and vb's. There really is no guarantee (with the exception of a few skanky bars like happenis or chche). This is also an election year so LE may be stepping up raiding places to look good to politicians, also so they can justify their undercover team. So if the mamasans or bar girls don't know you, you may be out of luck in getting any action. You may end up spending $$$$ buying ovepriced stuff and not getting squat.
As others have said, the skankier the bar and lower quality girls the better chance you have of getting serviced. The higher quality girls don't have to put out because customers still pay money to sit with them (not me though).
Sorry for being so negative but I regularly visit kb's and vb's and don't have much opportunity to get serviced at the kb's and vb's. Even though you may read of guys getting serviced at many kb's (and vb's) that isn't the norm.
Take the sure thing and go to an mp. You can sit with a girl at the kb or vb for a few drinks and get a buzz and then go to the mp when you are in the mood.
You guyz want action. Go to Club Happiness across Comp usa. They have action there. The girls play.
Thanks for the location info, brother DD, but can you be more in-depth in your report? Names, age, ethnicities? Please advise.
Hinode
Take the sure thing and go to an mp. You can sit with a girl at the kb or vb for a few drinks and get a buzz and then go to the mp when you are in the mood.That's pretty much what I've decided to do. I'm going to be on the island from Sunday afternoon until Thursday morning, probably. I plan to run around with my dick sticking out like an animal every single night, so I can try a couple of places and combinations of bars and AMPs. Plus I've decided that I like skanky, so that opens up some more options. All I was really hoping for was a bar that is a sure thing like the old LH, but with better quality. I don't mind paying more for that, we live under capitalism. I just want to avoid bars that are like the asian hostess bars in Los Angeles. I'm not going to be around long enough for one of those places to pay off. Also, I didn't know the pro-bowl was this weekend until yesterday. I don't know how that will affect the bar skank supply/pricing.
Club Bankok on Queen St.
Just wanted to mention, for anyone who may go looking for that bar, that its name was recently changed to Club Sabai.
Thanks for the location info, brother DD, but can you be more in-depth in your report? Names, age, ethnicities? Please advise.
HinodeI went there once. One girl needed a bath, another needed to brush her teeth and use mouth wash!
Thanks for the location info, brother DD, but can you be more in-depth in your report? Names, age, ethnicities? Please advise.
Hinode
Only went to Happiness twice. Last time in early Dec. Both times place was empty and the hostess who latched onto me immediately took me to a back secluded booth and proceeded to take off her top and panties and rub my crotch. Afternoon with Lena was CBJ and CHJ to finish. Short (5') petite bod; A cups. Night time with Lin was BBHJ (no BJ) to finish. Lin has terrific petite bod with perfect B cups. Also short. Both very young. Both cost around $.5 total. No backroom there so FS hard to get. Will only repeat if I want variety. Both girls Vietnamese with heavy accents. Lin was working until 10:00 at Camelot, then went to Happiness for the remainder of the evening.
Just wanted to mention, for anyone who may go looking for that bar, that its name was recently changed to Club Sabai.Yup, the new sign went up on Thursday.
Hinode,
I think Kalani explained it best. I had Nikki. Short, petite, kinda ugly but cnat beat a .5 bbbj. I think they all give action there but some probably cost more than others. All vietnamese and there are aome very hot ones there. AMP caliber women.
Thanks for the location info, brother DD, but can you be more in-depth in your report? Names, age, ethnicities? Please advise.
Hinode
Candy Addict
02-10-08, 06:05
No backroom there so FS hard to get.
I haven't been there since it was called Autumn Moon. Hell, haven't been in nearly three years! But unless they've remodeled again, they do have a backroom. It's also a storage room with all kinds of junk, but it also has a spare bench like they use in the booths. When I went, FS was indeed available. Obviously things might have changed since then.
This place has gone through many owners and name changes over the years. I was originally a regular there when it was Magazine Girl. Anyway, regardless of the name, from everything I've seen and heard, the place has always been about the action. So I wouldn't give up on FS there without a few more visits. These days, all the clubs are being far more cautious because a few nosy politicians and citizen activist groups don't want us to have any fun!
I'd better go to bed before I get on my soapbox and start another rant about the politics of the sex industry...
Happy Mongering, brothers!
CA
Mr. Bar butterfly, why dont you go there and find out. I'm just saying that because that is the way she is.
Primal Needs
02-11-08, 06:04
I haven't been there since it was called Autumn Moon. Hell, haven't been in nearly three years! ... This place has gone through many owners and name changes over the years. I was originally a regular there when it was Magazine Girl.
CA
The weird thing is that Thu seems to still be the owner. I didn't have a chance to ask her why she changed the name (I thought that usually only happens when management changes).
Unfortunately, I can't report of any action there from personal experience. I always go there with business acquaintances who don't play, we go just for drinks. A couple of nice looking girls, though.
Primal Needs
Thu told me she just wanted a change, thus Happiness Lounge. She said something like when people are happy, they feel good. She wants everybody to be happy that's why she chose that name. I should have told her how she can make me happy!
Primal Needs
02-12-08, 04:15
She said something like when people are happy, they feel good. She wants everybody to be happy that's why she chose that name. I should have told her how she can make me happy!
Yeah, yeah, I know how she could make me feel good AND happy at the same time! So far, no one's ever reported any play from her, though, huh?
I've never even tried. Something about her... I think she's one of those who tries to have that air of dignity, since she's the boss.
Primal Needs
Candy Addict
02-12-08, 06:53
The weird thing is that Thu seems to still be the owner. I didn't have a chance to ask her why she changed the name (I thought that usually only happens when management changes).
Unfortunately, I can't report of any action there from personal experience. I always go there with business acquaintances who don't play, we go just for drinks. A couple of nice looking girls, though.
Primal Needs
Back when I used to hang out there, it was run by a guy named Ford. Don't know if he was the owner, or just managed the place. I never actually met him, but I did have occasion to talk to him on the phone once to straighten out a credit card issue caused by one of the Bon Soire dancers. She gave me BBFS in a dark booth, but had "pre-authorized" a lot more than I'd actually spent, temporarily maxing out the card just before I was scheduled to make a buisness trip. He was very cool about the whole thing and called the credit card company had the authorization released immediately. Seemed like the kinda guy you'd want to hang out with. And for the record, that's the last time I ever charged mongering directly to a card. Strictly cash advances after that. What can I say? I was young, single, and foolish back then. Now I'm old, single, and foolish! :D
Thumperforq
02-12-08, 11:37
Back when I used to hang out there, it was run by a guy named Ford. Don't know if he was the owner, or just managed the place. I never actually met him, but I did have occasion to talk to him on the phone once to straighten out a credit card issue caused by one of the Bon Soire dancers. She gave me BBFS in a dark booth, but had "pre-authorized" a lot more than I'd actually spent, temporarily maxing out the card just before I was scheduled to make a buisness trip. He was very cool about the whole thing and called the credit card company had the authorization released immediately. Seemed like the kinda guy you'd want to hang out with. And for the record, that's the last time I ever charged mongering directly to a card. Strictly cash advances after that. What can I say? I was young, single, and foolish back then. Now I'm old, single, and foolish! :D
Thu took over the location in 1998 after Gina and her family were convicted of tax evasion and all of the assets (Bon Soirre and Magazine Girl, houses, cars, bank accounts, etc.) were seized. Ford thought that he would get a reduced sentence by pleading guilty and providing evidence against the others, but he ended up with the longest sentence (27 months) in the case.
Thu took over the location in 1998 after Gina and her family were convicted of tax evasion and all of the assets (Bon Soirre and Magazine Girl, houses, cars, bank accounts, etc.) were seized. Ford thought that he would get a reduced sentence by pleading guilty and providing evidence against the others, but he ended up with the longest sentence (27 months) in the case.Wow, 27 months is a long time.
Visited Happiness for the first time Sunday evening after the Pro Bowl. It was around 10pm. I don't remember the name of the woman that said she was the boss, it might have been Thu. I don't speak any language other than English so I probably only caught about 4 percent of what was going on. I thought Boss Lady was hot, looked to be late 30's, C cup (relatively discreet bolt ons, my guess). I think she was Korean, but I didn't grow up around asians so I could easily be wrong. She looked like she could be very very mean if she wanted to, but also wanted her customers and girls taken care of. There were a couple of women there that seemed mid to late 20's and attractive by my standards, but Lin latched onto me before the bead curtain thing stopped rattling. She looked mid to late 40's, petite but not particularly toned. Boss Lady asked why she'd never seen me before, how I had heard about the place, what I do for a living. When I go to AMPs I always say I've been there before and rattle off names I got from a website. I told them the truth sort of. I told them I was on the island for business, but a coworker that lives in Hi recommended. I ended up buying Lin WAY too many drinks, but I figured if I tried to get her into a back booth too quickly they would think I am LE. I'm a tubby middle aged white guy, which screams cop where I live, I don't know what screams cop in Hi. Boss Lady and Lin talked for a while in Vietnamese I think while I ate pretzels and then left us alone. Anyway, Lin would ask for a drink, I would say yes and give her 20 bucks, she would come back with a little glass and suck it down in 40 seconds and ask for another drink. She also asked for a 40 dollar drink at some point. I think I ended up buying her five 20 dollar ones. I felt like a sucker, but whatever. The 6th time she asked for a drink I just kind of shook my head and pointed to a back booth. I couldn't understand her, she pretended not to understand me very well. She said $$$. I laughed. I said $. 5, she said $$ and I shook my head. She said something about 50 for Boss Lady and I shook my head. She said she needed to talk to Boss Lady, I gave her $. 5, she left and came back and we moved to one of the booths that are against the front wall. Like to get to them you would come in the door and go around to the right. She pulled the table out so that there was room between the little booth seats that face each other and told me to take off my pants. At LH I just kind of slid my pants down, she wanted my pants OFF. I started to wonder if I was going to get chased out of there in my socks and shoes with my junk flapping. Lin got naked except for her top, which she kind of pushed down so that her little boobs were showing. 2. 5 seconds of BBBJ, then BBHJ, CFS. After I finished she cleaned me up, I helped her move the table back, she pointed to my hands and then pointed to the bathroom, I washed my hands and left. As I was backing out she came out into the parking lot and I realized that I had left without saying goodbye. I rolled down the window, she thanked me and pecked me on the lips and told me to come back sometime. She was nice I guess, but I wish I had talked to one of the other two women that were there.
Ford thought that he would get a reduced sentence by pleading guilty and providing evidence against the others, but he ended up with the longest sentence (27 months) in the case.
In a news report on that case in 1998, the Honolulu Star-Bulletin stated that Ford Ushijima "pleaded guilty after the trial began and was sentenced to 30 months," but that Michelle Lindberg (also known as Gina) received a longer sentence of 97 months.
On a travel website, there was a reference last month to "Ford Ushijima" being the food and beverage manager at the Royal Lahaina Resort on Maui. Wonder if he's the same guy? If so, it would be good to see that he was able to overcome the effects of the conviction and sentence.
Thumperforq
02-13-08, 06:45
In a news report on that case in 1998, the Honolulu Star-Bulletin stated that Ford Ushijima "pleaded guilty after the trial began and was sentenced to 30 months," but that Michelle Lindberg (also known as Gina) received a longer sentence of 97 months.
On a travel website, there was a reference last month to "Ford Ushijima" being the food and beverage manager at the Royal Lahaina Resort on Maui. Wonder if he's the same guy? If so, it would be good to see that he was able to overcome the effects of the conviction and sentence.
Gina never served 97 months. She was out of prison in 2001, just after Ramon and Bobby were released and before Ford was released.
Visited Happiness for the first time Sunday evening after the Pro Bowl. It was around 10pm. I don't remember the name of the woman that said she was the boss, it might have been Thu. I don't speak any language other than English so I probably only caught about 4 percent of what was going on. I thought Boss Lady was hot, looked to be late 30's, C cup (relatively discreet bolt ons, my guess). I think she was Korean, but I didn't grow up around asians so I could easily be wrong. She looked like she could be very very mean if she wanted to, but also wanted her customers and girls taken care of. There were a couple of women there that seemed mid to late 20's and attractive by my standards, but Lin latched onto me before the bead curtain thing stopped rattling. She looked mid to late 40's, petite but not particularly toned. Boss Lady asked why she'd never seen me before, how I had heard about the place, what I do for a living. When I go to AMPs I always say I've been there before and rattle off names I got from a website. I told them the truth sort of. I told them I was on the island for business, but a coworker that lives in Hi recommended. I ended up buying Lin WAY too many drinks, but I figured if I tried to get her into a back booth too quickly they would think I am LE. I'm a tubby middle aged white guy, which screams cop where I live, I don't know what screams cop in Hi. Boss Lady and Lin talked for a while in Vietnamese I think while I ate pretzels and then left us alone. Anyway, Lin would ask for a drink, I would say yes and give her 20 bucks, she would come back with a little glass and suck it down in 40 seconds and ask for another drink. She also asked for a 40 dollar drink at some point. I think I ended up buying her five 20 dollar ones. I felt like a sucker, but whatever. The 6th time she asked for a drink I just kind of shook my head and pointed to a back booth. I couldn't understand her, she pretended not to understand me very well. She said $$$. I laughed. I said $. 5, she said $$ and I shook my head. She said something about 50 for Boss Lady and I shook my head. She said she needed to talk to Boss Lady, I gave her $. 5, she left and came back and we moved to one of the booths that are against the front wall. Like to get to them you would come in the door and go around to the right. She pulled the table out so that there was room between the little booth seats that face each other and told me to take off my pants. At LH I just kind of slid my pants down, she wanted my pants OFF. I started to wonder if I was going to get chased out of there in my socks and shoes with my junk flapping. Lin got naked except for her top, which she kind of pushed down so that her little boobs were showing. 2. 5 seconds of BBBJ, then BBHJ, CFS. After I finished she cleaned me up, I helped her move the table back, she pointed to my hands and then pointed to the bathroom, I washed my hands and left. As I was backing out she came out into the parking lot and I realized that I had left without saying goodbye. I rolled down the window, she thanked me and pecked me on the lips and told me to come back sometime. She was nice I guess, but I wish I had talked to one of the other two women that were there.
Epoch,
I'm not sure how much longer you'll be here in HI or if you're living here now, but some advice if you go to any of these bars in the future.
I tend to only buy one drink for the girl and then start telling her to wait for a little while before she gets another one. That establishes that you are not Mr. Moneybags. I'm not saying this is true with all these girls, but in most cases when dealing with Asians like myself, it is very much acceptable to deal and be smart about your money. The key of course is if you do decide upon a price, it ends up reasonable (and you can use this site to make sure that is). I'm sorry to say that now you've established yourself as someone that is willing to spend $$.5 by the time you walk out the door.
The last time I visited Happiness it was called a different name and I got a HJ for $ plus one drink.
Some girls will rub your dick through your pants to get you to buy them more drinks which is fun, but if you rather spend the money in your pocket on getting down to business rather than buying drinks, then you should tell her to wait. That slows things down with money draining out of your pocket. Then you can make comments on how nice her tits are or body is so she'll feel more comfortable about you not being LE. I kind of keep it light and joke around and sometimes if I know she plays, I'll take my index finger and use the back of it and rub her nipple over her clothes to see if I can get it hard. She'll definitely know you are horny and willing to play and probably not LE, so she'll start negotiating. Sometimes I'll put my hand down between her legs and rub her legs, much like you were playing games with your girlfriend. I think you get the idea.
You were right to drop the price and refuse to pay for the mama's drink in my opinion. But remember, often the girl is required to push drinks for the bar to get their cut. In some cases where you've only bought one drink, she might be required to have to share some of the money with the bar, but not always.
Funny story over a year ago when I visited Cache on Kona Street during the early evening. I sat at the bar with a couple of other guys and this girl sits next to me. I bought her a drink and she wants me to move to a table. I tell her I'm not sure if I should and she starts rubbing my leg (I was wearing loose shorts). I kept hesitating and she starts going up my pant leg and starts playing with me, pretty much jacking me and pulling at my dick to try to get me to go the the booth right there at the bar. It was like being in a place where everyone knows what was going on but ignored it. Funny. I negotiated a good price and off we went and very soon after, off I went, if you know what I mean. LOL!
I know some will criticize those that go to bars to get off and spend the same as an AMP, but I think it fun when you're doing it in the back booth when everyone outside is drinking. I like an occassional AMP visit though.
Primal Needs
02-14-08, 03:46
I tend to only buy one drink for the girl and then start telling her to wait for a little while before she gets another one. That establishes that you are not Mr. Moneybags.
I've got way more AMP experience than bar experience, but I've noticed that at the bars, when I was assertive, it only helped. And conversely, if I let the girls run over me, they certainly wouldn't stop pushing. You're there to be taken advantage of, if that's the case. I realized that they test you not unlike bratty children.
When I asked them to slow down, I always say it in a nice, joking way. I try my best to be cool about it. I mention that I don't have much to spend.
Then, I pay careful attention to their reactions. If they're not good at hiding it, they'll either show disgust, which will make me want to leave (they could at least hide their greed, no?), or respectfully abide. If they listen and abide, they still might be greedy, but the ball is in your court. I think the experienced ones know that they could scare a guy away before the big payoff - the back room or booth action. Or make him "run out" of pre-action cash before they can arrange the "bigger deal." I think most of us guys show when we're reaching our limits from our behaviors, too. When we start pushing for play, I bet we make different pantomimes - a difference between "just horny" faces and "I don't have any more money so let's get to it" faces.
Primal Needs
Gina never served 97 months. She was out of prison in 2001, just after Ramon and Bobby were released and before Ford was released.
Yes, from what I've read, most defendants don't serve their full sentences. Interestingly, the release dates for federal inmates are public information. According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, Ford Ushijima (inmate #85424-022) was released on October 28, 1999, while Gina -- actually named Michelle Lindberg (inmate #85423-022) -- was released afterward on March 15, 2002.
Captin Crunch
02-15-08, 08:56
Wasn't Ramon married? What was his wife's name?wasn't he married to Tip? Have lost track of her. She was working in the bar scene. Boy, she was a player before!
Yes, from what I've read, most defendants don't serve their full sentences. Interestingly, the release dates for federal inmates are public information. According to the Federal Bureau of Prisons, Ford Ushijima (inmate #85424-022) was released on October 28, 1999, while Gina -- actually named Michelle Lindberg (inmate #85423-022) -- was released afterward on March 15, 2002.
Thumperforq
02-15-08, 13:52
Wasn't Ramon married? What was his wife's name?wasn't he married to Tip? Have lost track of her. She was working in the bar scene. Boy, she was a player before!
Several times. He never married Tip, but had a daughter with her. He married Nicole, then Marissa, then May. Tip and Marissa both are living on the mainland with new husbands.
Dropped by around midnight on the 13th. Sat with Li or Lee. Probably early 40's, firm fake c's, fairly pretty I thought. I bought her 2 drinks, then she pulled the "we can move to the back booth but the drinks are 40 dollars" routine. I bought her a 40 dollar drink because I'm a tourist and not aggressive enough. She asked for another one and I said let's wait. By that time there was LFK and crotch groping going on. She asked what I do when I get horny. I said "I come here. " I didn't understand that she was asking me what I wanted from her, because I'm slow. She asked if I can get off by hand and I said oh sure all the time and I cracked my knuckles. She didn't laugh. She said if I bought her a hundred dollar drink she would do HJ. I said ok. The hundred dollar drink turned out to be a brandy snifter with baby oil in it. That thing led to the other and I left feeling like an asshole for not doing my part in keeping prices low. While she was walking me to the door she said come back tomorrow and we can go to the back room and I can sit on your lap. Man if I lived in hawaii and could get used to the weirdo garlic breath I'm pretty sure I'd go to these bars every week.
Dropped by around midnight on the 13th. Sat with Li or Lee. Probably early 40's, firm fake c's, fairly pretty I thought. I bought her 2 drinks, then she pulled the "we can move to the back booth but the drinks are 40 dollars" routine. I bought her a 40 dollar drink because I'm a tourist and not aggressive enough. She asked for another one and I said let's wait. By that time there was LFK and crotch groping going on. She asked what I do when I get horny. I said "I come here. " I didn't understand that she was asking me what I wanted from her, because I'm slow. She asked if I can get off by hand and I said oh sure all the time and I cracked my knuckles. She didn't laugh. She said if I bought her a hundred dollar drink she would do HJ. I said ok. The hundred dollar drink turned out to be a brandy snifter with baby oil in it. That thing led to the other and I left feeling like an asshole for not doing my part in keeping prices low. While she was walking me to the door she said come back tomorrow and we can go to the back room and I can sit on your lap. Man if I lived in hawaii and could get used to the weirdo garlic breath I'm pretty sure I'd go to these bars every week.
Sounds like you're get the hang of it. $ is about right for a HJ in the bar if they are average looking, but you might consider not buying that .4 drink.
As for the breath, my friend carries that "minti-fresh" and offers the girl and that takes care of that issue.
could get used to the weirdo garlic breath I'm pretty sure I'd go to these bars every week.
LOL. Im born and raised here and I still cant stand that breath
Man if I lived in hawaii and could get used to the weirdo garlic breath I'm pretty sure I'd go to these bars every week.
Thanks for your detailed bar reports, which I enjoy reading. It seems that you've spent about $180 at Club Secret, resulting in a hand job, and about $250 at Happiness, resulting in full service inside a booth. Just a helpful suggestion -- you might also want to try some relaxation places in Honolulu, where for a total expenditure of $200 (or sometimes less) a customer can receive full service, unhurried and with comfort and privacy. After experiencing the service at some relaxation places, you may conclude that they provide a good value for the money.
Gotta love those "relaxation" places.
I especially enjoy the nice warm shower. (-;
Bobby Gunn
02-17-08, 04:24
Thanks for your detailed bar reports, which I enjoy reading. It seems that you've spent about $180 at Club Secret, resulting in a hand job, and about $250 at Happiness, resulting in full service inside a booth. Just a helpful suggestion -- you might also want to try some relaxation places in Honolulu, where for a total expenditure of $200 (or sometimes less) a customer can receive full service, unhurried and with comfort and privacy. After experiencing the service at some relaxation places, you may conclude that they provide a good value for the money.
There not exactly unhurried, you'll get an hour to an hour in a half max. For me, that's too short of time to get a full pleasurable experience.
There not exactly unhurried, you'll get an hour to an hour in a half max. For me, that's too short of time to get a full pleasurable experience.
By using the word "unhurried," I didn't mean to imply an unlimited amount of time. Rather, I meant unhurried in comparison to most sexual intercourse that occurs inside bars.
Yes, I thought I'd enjoy the bars more because I could sit around and drink booze and relax, but it turns out getting hit up for 20 bucks every 4 minutes isn't really very relaxing. I'm glad it's an option though, sometimes I'm definitely in the mood to handle business semi-publicly in a sticky booth. I ended up working long and weird hours so I didn't get the chance to hit any MP's or the bars with "model quality" hostesses. I wanted to hit Evergreen after the other bars closed too, but it just wasn't in the cards. I'm back in LA now where I think the sheer number of MP's keeps the prices a little lower than in Hi. We have some hostess bars, but they are nothing like what you guys have for any price. The ones that I know of where play can sometimes be found are full of Latinas. I love them too. There are asian hostess bars but I don't know where they are and I have heard that there is no play. Thanks for all the information in the threads and in PM, I was able to snipe for exactly what I was looking for. I can't wait to get back out there. Oh and after I went to Secrets, I had some noodles at Sorabol around 2am. If I had gone there first I wouldn't have even noticed the breath.
Hwnfrontier
02-19-08, 23:29
I drove by last night wanted to see what craziness the bartenders was up to, and it was closed.
Does anybody know whats up?
I drove by last night wanted to see what craziness the bartenders was up to, and it was closed.
Does anybody know whats up?
closed for a week from 19th to 26th.
Fuck this bar. The owner Lan does not know how to take care of her customers. If you all were such good customers and your patronage was appreciated then they would have let you all know that they went on a little vacation to Vietnam for a week.
Slowly the girls are leaving because they are also tired of the way they are being treated. To the fucking idiot, pussy whip mother fucker that goes and tells the girls that we post on here fuck you you dumb fuckheads. This site will never be sacred just for us guys because of all the faggets out there.
I went through a lot of shit cause someone dumb ass told the girls I was posting on here. DUMB FUCKS!
closed for a week from 19th to 26th.
Aaron Colt
02-22-08, 04:54
Fuck this bar. The owner Lan does not know how to take care of her customers. If you all were such good customers and your patronage was appreciated then they would have let you all know that they went on a little vacation to Vietnam for a week.
Slowly the girls are leaving because they are also tired of the way they are being treated. To the fucking idiot, pussy whip mother fucker that goes and tells the girls that we post on here fuck you you dumb fuckheads. This site will never be sacred just for us guys because of all the faggets out there.
I went through a lot of shit cause someone dumb ass told the girls I was posting on here. DUMB FUCKS!
Did a twelve yr old, snot nose kid write this?
Candy Addict
02-22-08, 06:48
I went through a lot of shit cause someone dumb ass told the girls I was posting on here. DUMB FUCKS!
Um, forgive me, but this begs the question. Just how in the hell would any of us here know who you were to tell the girls you post here? Do you use the name "Skulzz" with them when you go bar-hopping or something? I agree that talking about this web site with bar-girls and providers is probably not in our best interests, but your claim sounds really suspect. In any case, you could calmly describe the problem without resorting to the insults and you'd probably get a lot more sympathy from your brother mongerers.
Just my $.02 worth.
First off~ never mention the content of the board to any provider, bartender, hostess, doorman, bouncer etc. Having read this board, the GAIH board I have never read any autobiographical description of a monger that would separate himself from the crowd. I take that back, Hinode got the big chagi [peace brother Hinode]. To tell you the truth we would be very poor witnesses because we would give terrible and cookie cutter description of fellow mongers~ uh you know local mix 5" 6" - 5" 8" tan complexion buzz hair maybe short, blue jeans, UH WAC Champion T shirt.
BUT, when it comes to providers were are expert witnesses!
I have no idea what my fellow mongers' names are but I see you all the time. I don't know who the USASG posters are. Who in their right would go up to a girl and say do you read the USASG board and remember what a very specific poster wrote. If it makes you feel better as Kap said you tell us what happened .
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I don't care about sympathy let me get that straight to everyone out there. All I am doing is passing along what we all want out there the truth. If Lan cared about her regulars she would have told you folks that they would be away for a week on vacation going to Vietnam.
I did not specify anyone out on this web. I meant us in general. Think about it? If we were all brothers then the providers would never have found out about this site, so this tells me there are a lot of sisters out there if you know what I mean.
As far as Skulzz goes I would take it as an insult if people out there would think that I would tell any provider what this name means or even use it with them. I am totally a straight shooter and I don't beat around the bush. When I get really upset I admit I resort back to my Kid mentality but don't we all at sometime do that?
Everyone just be straight up.
Um, forgive me, but this begs the question. Just how in the hell would any of us here know who you were to tell the girls you post here? Do you use the name "Skulzz" with them when you go bar-hopping or something? I agree that talking about this web site with bar-girls and providers is probably not in our best interests, but your claim sounds really suspect. In any case, you could calmly describe the problem without resorting to the insults and you'd probably get a lot more sympathy from your brother mongerers.
Just my $.02 worth.
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1 down, 2 to go
Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack via the "Report this Post to a Moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.
Thanks,
Jackson
Okay my quote to you got deleted because it was mostly arguementive. Although I don't agree so be it. Mr. Colt you can't tell me that you don't get upset and blow your stack. If you don't then good for you. We must all agree though thos site was developed for us brothers looking for providers and that is all I am tryimg to get across.
If we don't stick together and we go putting each other down then why even have this website?
Did a twelve yr old, snot nose kid write this?
Okay my quote to you got deleted because it was mostly arguementive. Although I don't agree so be it. Mr. Colt you can't tell me that you don't get upset and blow your stack. If you don't then good for you. We must all agree though this site was developed for us brothers looking for providers and that is all I am trying to get accross.
If we don't stick together and we go putting each other down then why even have this website?
I don't know about you but I go on here so I don't waste my time going after a provider I thought was worth it. This gives insite to us providers. Maybe you are a friend of Lan? I do not know, but it seems you are taking there side.
Have a wonderful day and hope I see you on the streets one day!
Did a twelve yr old, snot nose kid write this?
Anyone gotten any play from the girl at sandy & jens that looks sort of like Lucy Lui?
Member #3973
02-22-08, 21:08
If we were all brothers then the providers would never have found out about this site...
Ofcourse they would find out. If they don't find it on their own, they have MS, BFs and other providers to spread the word. Try Google any of the more well-known places and you're likely to find one or more links to this site.
Try searching for "VIP relaxation" + honolulu and you'll see.
I actually found this website years ago because I googled a massage parlor to get their phone number and found links to reviews on this site!
Other than that, I agree that it is best not to mention any of the boards to the providers as they do seem to be nervous about the additional exposure.
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1 down, 2 to go
Will somebody please report this guy's next personal attack via the "Report this Post to a Moderator" link, and be sure to note that it will be his 2nd violation.
Thanks,
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Peckerwood
02-23-08, 01:04
Anyone gotten any play from the girl at sandy & jens that looks sort of like Lucy Lui?
Thats Vicky, she does play. I've only gotten a HJ back when the bar had the old set up. She does go in the room.
PW
Just for informational purposes, Lan went to LV to visit her son. Not sure if she took everyone else with her and not sure if it was on the spur of the moment but the bar has been rather slow lately.
Also btw, Lan has changed her attitude at the bar. She isn't into the "play" anymore since getting rapped by LE and LC so the girls weren't sticking around and the other girls were awaiting their court appearances.
As for this forum, it should be known that many providers are aware of it. In the many years that I have been mongering, many of the providers have been aware of sites around, from the delphi to various msn groups. This group was also mentioned in the media last year so we should be aware of the possibility of detection. As for the providers, they can read posts and figure out who the poster was. I got caught by a provider who read my post on delphi years ago, she knew that it was me and confronted me by it, even showing me the post. That's why we all need to be wary of detection.
As for your problem Skulzz, it's possible that a provider read your post and figured out who you were. I can't verify and would never tell a provider about the site but some providers like lyna asked me about the sites, Lan also. I feigned ignorance and asked her for more details and Lan had a good laugh years ago mentioning the posts. She never gave me the name of the site but I figured that it was this site or the other public site.
We all need to remember the fight club rules (say nothing, give out no information) but also gather as much information from the providers to find out if someone is giving it to the providers.
Night Colors
02-23-08, 04:34
closed for a week from 19th to 26th.
Their business is already slow. Most bars would have someone else run it in the owner's absence. I wonder why they don't mind losing a fourth of their business this month on top of it. However, It's Lan's bar and she has the right to do what she wants there. We have the right to go or not go, also.
On top of that, the fun and bouncy girls that bartend there are openly talking about their post-Romantei era already.
Thats Vicky, she does play. I've only gotten a HJ back when the bar had the old set up. She does go in the room.
PWHow many bills am I looking at giving up to get more than a HJ?
Thanks PW!
Also btw, Lan has changed her attitude at the bar. She isn't into the "play" anymore since getting rapped by LE and LC so the girls weren't sticking around and the other girls were awaiting their court appearances.
I never heard about Lan getting rapped, when did this happen?
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2 down, only 1 to go
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I never heard about Lan getting rapped, when did this happen?
The Honolulu Liquor Commission report for December 6, 2007, states that Club Romantei "was fined a total of $2,000 for two violations of Rule 3-84-78.042 (fondling), fined $250 for violation of Rule 3-82-38.5(e) (failing to ensure employee have his/her certificate of registration available for inspection while on duty), fined $250 for violation of Rule 3-82-38.5(a) (non-registered employee), fined a total of $600 for two violations of Rule 3-84-78.01(b) (employee consumption of liquor while on duty), and fined a total of $500 for two violations of Rule 3-82-38.4 (b) (time card)."
How many bills am I looking at giving up to get more than a HJ?
Thanks PW!Look to drop anywhere from $$$ to $$$$, not counting drinks. She will drain you dry.
Peckerwood
02-23-08, 20:12
How many bills am I looking at giving up to get more than a HJ?
Thanks PW!
Sorry, no info about the cost to go into room. I've been in the bar when she took a customer in.
PW
I hate to burst your bubble but Lan went to Vietnam with Danny, Shiela, The waiter Brandon and one of the girls Kim.
I am not going to argue with anyone but when you drop them off at the airport and see their tickets I should know where and who went.
VJ and Sara already left romantei because they do not like the way Lan treats them. What kind of mama would have her bartenders go out and use their own money to buy snacks for the clients. I am not saying it is right or wrong I just don't agree with it and that is why I do not patronize her establishment anymore.
Just for informational purposes, Lan went to LV to visit her son. Not sure if she took everyone else with her and not sure if it was on the spur of the moment but the bar has been rather slow lately.
Also btw, Lan has changed her attitude at the bar. She isn't into the "play" anymore since getting rapped by LE and LC so the girls weren't sticking around and the other girls were awaiting their court appearances.
As for this forum, it should be known that many providers are aware of it. In the many years that I have been mongering, many of the providers have been aware of sites around, from the delphi to various msn groups. This group was also mentioned in the media last year so we should be aware of the possibility of detection. As for the providers, they can read posts and figure out who the poster was. I got caught by a provider who read my post on delphi years ago, she knew that it was me and confronted me by it, even showing me the post. That's why we all need to be wary of detection.
As for your problem Skulzz, it's possible that a provider read your post and figured out who you were. I can't verify and would never tell a provider about the site but some providers like lyna asked me about the sites, Lan also. I feigned ignorance and asked her for more details and Lan had a good laugh years ago mentioning the posts. She never gave me the name of the site but I figured that it was this site or the other public site.
We all need to remember the fight club rules (say nothing, give out no information) but also gather as much information from the providers to find out if someone is giving it to the providers.
The Honolulu Liquor Commission report for December 6, 2007, states that Club Romantei "was fined a total of $2,000 for two violations of Rule 3-84-78.042 (fondling), fined $250 for violation of Rule 3-82-38.5(e) (failing to ensure employee have his/her certificate of registration available for inspection while on duty), fined $250 for violation of Rule 3-82-38.5(a) (non-registered employee), fined a total of $600 for two violations of Rule 3-84-78.01(b) (employee consumption of liquor while on duty), and fined a total of $500 for two violations of Rule 3-82-38.4 (b) (time card)."
Okay, now I understand. I thought she was fiscally rapped.
Skulzz - Most bartenders buy the snacks like peanuts/chips for their shift. They have that for their customers and the cost is made up with drinks for them and tips.
As for Lan, how's her kids Jennifer and Jeffrey?
Well where I usually visit the Owner's usually but the pupu's. Poke, steak, sushi, etc. Well you must know them well and I don't wish to get into any more debates. This is a web about providers and I am going to stick to that unless I feel I have to respond to a guote.
You sound like a very upscale gentleman Mr. Ross.
Aloha,
Skulzz
Skulzz - Most bartenders buy the snacks like peanuts/chips for their shift. They have that for their customers and the cost is made up with drinks for them and tips.
As for Lan, how's her kids Jennifer and Jeffrey?
I hate to burst your bubble but Lan went to Vietnam with Danny, Shiela, The waiter Brandon and one of the girls Kim.
I am not going to argue with anyone but when you drop them off at the airport and see their tickets I should know where and who went.
VJ and Sara already left romantei because they do not like the way Lan treats them. What kind of mama would have her bartenders go out and use their own money to buy snacks for the clients. I am not saying it is right or wrong I just don't agree with it and that is why I do not patronize her establishment anymore.I won't fight with you as to where lan and the gang went, I just heard from some other viet girls and assumed they knew the scoops so it sounds about right what you are saying. Doesn't matter to me where they went anyway. I know that a few of the mamas take their girls to las vegas. Maya did and chanel did too.
As for Sara leaving Romantei because of Lan, no, that's not true at all. She just graduated in December. She looked for a regular job and found a good job so quit the night job. It was about the right time to start looking for a regular job and settle down and I agree. Although the money is probably better at the bar, there is no job security there, no raises or medical benefits so it's good for her to find a job that is stable. I saw VJ a week ago working before they left so not sure about her work status. Actually they hired Sara's older sister to work the bar and I saw Sara last week (or was it the week before, I forget) at the bar visiting.
As someone else said, at all the bars, especially the kb's, the bartenders buy the chips and small pupus. Camelot, evergreen, new Casino and Club Business the bartenders all buy their own chips for the people sitting at the bar and if you hear differently about those bars then they are bs'ing you as I took out a few of the girls (bartenders) working at those bar.
But you are correct about some of the girls not liking the way Lan is running the place, but it's been like that for many years. Many of the popular girls at other places like lyna, tiffany (by nite and mistique), kayla, and many girls at sky lounge all started out at Romantei years ago and left because of differences. It was like that before and will continue to be like that.
Yes, best to not get into any heated debates here, everyone has their own opinion and some think they know more than others (sorry if I sound like one of them but it's more from experience) and best to let them think they know.
Is this the Vietnamese Vicky? If it is you can get full BBFS right in the booth from her. I use to see her all the time and we use to have FS right in the booth for $. Put the raincoat on. She will offer BBFS though.
How many bills am I looking at giving up to get more than a HJ?
Thanks PW!
I respect your honesty and pretty much agree with you. I just get a little ticked that we (Patrons) don't get treated like the old and days. Especially when the play is so expensive and so hard to get nowadays. Brother enjoy and I respect you.
I won't fight with you as to where lan and the gang went, I just heard from some other viet girls and assumed they knew the scoops so it sounds about right what you are saying. Doesn't matter to me where they went anyway. I know that a few of the mamas take their girls to las vegas. Maya did and chanel did too.
As for Sara leaving Romantei because of Lan, no, that's not true at all. She just graduated in December. She looked for a regular job and found a good job so quit the night job. It was about the right time to start looking for a regular job and settle down and I agree. Although the money is probably better at the bar, there is no job security there, no raises or medical benefits so it's good for her to find a job that is stable. I saw VJ a week ago working before they left so not sure about her work status. Actually they hired Sara's older sister to work the bar and I saw Sara last week (or was it the week before, I forget) at the bar visiting.
As someone else said, at all the bars, especially the kb's, the bartenders buy the chips and small pupus. Camelot, evergreen, new Casino and Club Business the bartenders all buy their own chips for the people sitting at the bar and if you hear differently about those bars then they are bs'ing you as I took out a few of the girls (bartenders) working at those bar.
But you are correct about some of the girls not liking the way Lan is running the place, but it's been like that for many years. Many of the popular girls at other places like lyna, tiffany (by nite and mistique), kayla, and many girls at sky lounge all started out at Romantei years ago and left because of differences. It was like that before and will continue to be like that.
Yes, best to not get into any heated debates here, everyone has their own opinion and some think they know more than others (sorry if I sound like one of them but it's more from experience) and best to let them think they know.
Aaron Colt
02-26-08, 03:21
I won't fight with you as to where lan and the gang went, I just heard from some other viet girls and assumed they knew the scoops so it sounds about right what you are saying. Doesn't matter to me where they went anyway. I know that a few of the mamas take their girls to las vegas. Maya did and chanel did too.
As for Sara leaving Romantei because of Lan, no, that's not true at all. She just graduated in December. She looked for a regular job and found a good job so quit the night job. It was about the right time to start looking for a regular job and settle down and I agree. Although the money is probably better at the bar, there is no job security there, no raises or medical benefits so it's good for her to find a job that is stable. I saw VJ a week ago working before they left so not sure about her work status. Actually they hired Sara's older sister to work the bar and I saw Sara last week (or was it the week before, I forget) at the bar visiting.
As someone else said, at all the bars, especially the kb's, the bartenders buy the chips and small pupus. Camelot, evergreen, new Casino and Club Business the bartenders all buy their own chips for the people sitting at the bar and if you hear differently about those bars then they are bs'ing you as I took out a few of the girls (bartenders) working at those bar.
But you are correct about some of the girls not liking the way Lan is running the place, but it's been like that for many years. Many of the popular girls at other places like lyna, tiffany (by nite and mistique), kayla, and many girls at sky lounge all started out at Romantei years ago and left because of differences. It was like that before and will continue to be like that.
Yes, best to not get into any heated debates here, everyone has their own opinion and some think they know more than others (sorry if I sound like one of them but it's more from experience) and best to let them think they know.
I wish Lan would rotate the girls more often. Its exhausting seeing the same girls there for months and months. Take Kim for example, she needs to move on.
Is this the Vietnamese Vicky? If it is you can get full BBFS right in the booth from her. I use to see her all the time and we use to have FS right in the booth for $. Put the raincoat on. She will offer BBFS though.
Was there around 10pm last Fri. Kinda quiet. Best looking one there might have been one of the owners. She was wearing jeans but showed some nice tits. But didn't bother to ask for a drink. I sat at the bar. Vicky introduced herself and every time she walked by she touched me somewhere but she had a customer who didn't seem likely to leave any time soon so I left. I would like to return for a try at Vicky. Was some kind of commotion outside. A woman and one of the guys who works there were yelling and arguing. Finally cops came to interview her. Thought it time to move on.
I wish Lan would rotate the girls more often. Its exhausting seeing the same girls there for months and months. Take Kim for example, she needs to move on.Lan is having a hard enough time trying to bring in girls to work. Since most of the girls don't play, many customers like me have moved on to other pastures for play. Sad but guess she got raided once too often so now doesn't offer as much play as in years past.
Kim is a waitress/hostess. Not very friendly, looks more like a stuck up biatch. Other girls not much play either, especially the bartenders. Don't expect any changes in the near future there.
I wish Lan would rotate the girls more often. Its exhausting seeing the same girls there for months and months. Take Kim for example, she needs to move on.I think that's the situation at almost all the bars. It's getting so boring I'm thinking about just staying home with the gf.
Member #4374
03-05-08, 03:06
I checked out Mystique last night, had a lot of hot chicks there! I sat with Marissa for one drink, but I wasn't feeling her vibe (she was hot though). So next I sat with Tina, she's a very sexy Viet/Chinese chick who claimed to be the owners little sister. I bought her a few drinks, but I wasn't getting any play. But she was fine and I was enjoying myself just kicking back. I also met Lani (tall) and Nancy (kind of chunky) at the bar. I think some of these girls are Cali imports. There is definitely eye candy all over the place here, but I prefer a more hands on bar experience. I'll probably go again and see what happens. I wish I had gone on lingerie night.
Lingerie nites were OK - You probably have a better chance of success when it isn't so crowded IMHO. Tina is Tiffany's older sister. Not sure if I like the Calif. hustle - I think the girls that were there before are more receptive to play.
On another note, it looks like Sky Lounge is fighting back with a School Girl Nite on 3/13 and Lingerie on 3/14. Competition is good!
Last nite, I was in Sky Lounge. That place is a ghost town. They only had 2 girls and the owner's sister, Lina (damn she is hottt). I guess she had run it awhile ago or maybe she is running it now, I am confusing my ownself. There was signs up for nextweek, there will be a lingerie nite and something else. I was in for only a short time and the electricity went out for the building.
Whats up with this ghost town?
Last nite, I was in Sky Lounge. That place is a ghost town. They only had 2 girls and the owner's sister, Lina (damn she is hottt). I guess she had run it awhile ago or maybe she is running it now, I am confusing my ownself. There was signs up for nextweek, there will be a lingerie nite and something else. I was in for only a short time and the electricity went out for the building.
Whats up with this ghost town?
Talking about ghost towns. Went to stop by at Romantei Monday night and that place was a ghost town too.
Hwnfrontier
03-14-08, 05:59
OMG that has to be the best idea yet most of the girls was hot with the short plaid skirts the button down shirts showing the midrift and the pigtails but lyna she was looking FINE she had her pigtails braided all the other girls had theirs in a bunch even jackie with the teacher look all she needed was that whip thing and she would do it for me.
Member #4374
03-14-08, 15:34
I haven't been there since it was called Autumn Moon. Hell, haven't been in nearly three years! But unless they've remodeled again, they do have a backroom. It's also a storage room with all kinds of junk, but it also has a spare bench like they use in the booths. When I went, FS was indeed available. Obviously things might have changed since then.
CAChecked out Happiness for the second time and was dissapointed. Sat with Mina, who has nice tits and an okay face. But there was only talk, no action, so I departed.
The first time I went there (about a month and a half ago), I sat with Kim who is 31 with a somewhat cute face and a sexy body. I buy her one drink and we talk a little (I lie that I had been there before). A couple more questions and she's already rubbing Mr. Happy. Asks if I want to go to the backbooth and right when we get back there she whips out her titties and lifts up her skirt (wearing thong). So I'm sucking titties and rubbing her ass and pussy and she asks if I want to go to the backroom for $$$. I had a lot of dough, so I didn't care this would be a $ more than a MP. So the backroom is just like the quote and I got BBBJ, CCG, Cmish, and CDS. It was a fun adventure.
So after that experience, I was under the impression that Happiness was like the old Yokohama. I didn't see Kim working my second time, but I wanted to try someone new anyway. I don't think anyone recognized me, and maybe they were suspicious of me (one of the girls at the bar was whispering something to Mina when she was getting her drink). Who knows. I will not be returning.
Checked out Happiness for the second time and was dissapointed. Sat with Mina, who has nice tits and an okay face. But there was only talk, no action, so I departed.
The first time I went there (about a month and a half ago), I sat with Kim who is 31 with a somewhat cute face and a sexy body. I buy her one drink and we talk a little (I lie that I had been there before). A couple more questions and she's already rubbing Mr. Happy. Asks if I want to go to the backbooth and right when we get back there she whips out her titties and lifts up her skirt (wearing thong). So I'm sucking titties and rubbing her ass and pussy and she asks if I want to go to the backroom for $$$. I had a lot of dough, so I didn't care this would be a $ more than a MP. So the backroom is just like the quote and I got BBBJ, CCG, Cmish, and CDS. It was a fun adventure.
So after that experience, I was under the impression that Happiness was like the old Yokohama. I didn't see Kim working my second time, but I wanted to try someone new anyway. I don't think anyone recognized me, and maybe they were suspicious of me (one of the girls at the bar was whispering something to Mina when she was getting her drink). Who knows. I will not be returning.
What day of the week and what time were you there each time?
I will not be returning.
Unless something very bad happened that's not included in the report, it may be premature to abandon the place on the basis of one disappointment. The first time you easily obtained full service and had "a fun adventure." So your batting average there is .500, which is pretty good. Might want to wait a while, then return and see if you can hit another home run. ;)
Member #4374
03-15-08, 22:22
The first time I went to Happiness was a Saturday around midnight. And the second time was a Tuesday around 9 or 10. Maybe I will give it another try (closer to closing) and see what happens.
To change the subject, I had a beer at Sky on lingerie night and it was dope! I showed up when most of the girls were occupied already, but it was an eye candy buffet. I also find Club Secret to be a cool spot (except for the roaches crawling around). Still may want to check out Mystique again and see if those Cali girls have learned how to do it 808-style yet. Club Sabai is cool, got a couple cute girls there, but wasn't getting any touching going on (has a very festive atmosphere, but I expected more Thailand-style of the carnal nature). Also Vicki at Sandy and Jens was rubbing Mr. Happy when I visited her, but didn't offer anything more.
Night Colors
03-17-08, 07:55
This man rates Mystique A++.
The first time I went to Happiness was a Saturday around midnight. And the second time was a Tuesday around 9 or 10. Maybe I will give it another try (closer to closing) and see what happens.
To change the subject, I had a beer at Sky on lingerie night and it was dope! I showed up when most of the girls were occupied already, but it was an eye candy buffet. I also find Club Secret to be a cool spot (except for the roaches crawling around). Still may want to check out Mystique again and see if those Cali girls have learned how to do it 808-style yet. Club Sabai is cool, got a couple cute girls there, but wasn't getting any touching going on (has a very festive atmosphere, but I expected more Thailand-style of the carnal nature). Also Vicki at Sandy and Jens was rubbing Mr. Happy when I visited her, but didn't offer anything more.
I went to Club Sabai this weekend and they have new booths that are very low. They are your typical bar booths, but built to couch height. Looks like there's no play there with that setup.
Peckerwood
03-17-08, 11:28
This man rates Mystique A++.
details, details...
Captin Crunch
03-17-08, 15:37
Went to Sandy and Jens yesterday afternoon and meet Michelle. She's a
little older lady who bartends during the day. She was pretty nice to me, so
I decided to buy her one drink. She started to get a little touchy, so I bought
her one more drink. We moved to the booth and became very interesting.
We get very oral with each other and next thing I know I'm down there
wining and dining. A customer comes in a little later so she wants my
number and tells me that she wants me to come over and finish what we
started. She is very horny and wants more. We'll see if she calls..........
Stay tune if anything comes out of this.
Went to Club Secret a few times met up with Lin. Any 411? She's a little older (40's) but incredible looks and tight bod.
I guess she's on vacation but don't mind going back for a few. Does she play?
The first time I went to Happiness was a Saturday around midnight. And the second time was a Tuesday around 9 or 10. Maybe I will give it another try (closer to closing) and see what happens.
Went to Happiness last Thursday - early, around 7:30pm. Absolutely no girls - nada. Very disappointing. Left after one beer in search of Nirvana.
Night Colors
03-24-08, 02:54
Romantei girls in 2006.
Hwnfrontier
03-24-08, 18:19
Romantei girls in 2006.Sarah, Jenny and I'm not sure.
Romantei girls in 2006.Hmmmm. Lemme guess from L to R: Sara, Jenny, and? (not sure if that's the girl with those wicked fangs).
Thumperforq
03-25-08, 01:37
Romantei girls in 2006.
Sara, Vietnamese Jenny, Japanese Jenny
Went to Club Secret a few times met up with Lin. Any 411? She's a little older (40's) but incredible looks and tight bod.
I guess she's on vacation but don't mind going back for a few. Does she play?Yes she does play, but you need to bring some cash with you as she is expensive.
Anyone been to sky lounge in the past week? I normally dont do korean bars but camelot has some nice eye candy. especially that girl yujin she is very FRIENDLY!!!
Heard that Jada (Jayda) is running Upstairs (fka Allure - above D'Amour) and will provide some competition to Sky Lounge.
Been told there is only 1 Jada in town - and the one I knew was at Saigon PIII several years ago. She ran quite a "scam" working you over and promising you the world...but I must say, she had a knockout looking partner named Nancy.
Jada setup up a 3 girl room visit, but the only action I got from her was when she took my money!
Would love to see Nancy again (and hopefully this time I can do it w/o interference) - Might check it out later this week.
Heard that Jada (Jayda) is running Upstairs (fka Allure - above D'Amour) and will provide some competition to Sky Lounge.
Been told there is only 1 Jada in town - and the one I knew was at Saigon PIII several years ago. She ran quite a "scam" working you over and promising you the world...but I must say, she had a knockout looking partner named Nancy.
Jada setup up a 3 girl room visit, but the only action I got from her was when she took my money!
Would love to see Nancy again (and hopefully this time I can do it w/o interference) - Might check it out later this week.Beware of her and Nancy, they both are scammers. She also works at Exotic Nights also and does the exact same thing there!
Went to Happiness last Thursday - early, around 7:30pm. Absolutely no girls - nada. Very disappointing. Left after one beer in search of Nirvana.Well, it's a little early. I think the best time to come to Happiness is around 11:00pm. If you want some action I think you should try Nikki. She is hot, fun and a little crazy. Stay away from Mimi, she was terrible. Last time I sat with her, she tried to cheat when she added more drinks on my tab.
Beware of her and Nancy, they both are scammers. She also works at Exotic Nights also and does the exact same thing there!Thanks for the warning about Jayda. Her and Gina at exotics wanted me to pay them $x5 for a threesome. Tempted to almost try it.
Thumperforq
03-28-08, 17:56
Did the rounds last night and checked out Mystique and Upstairs Bar. Mystique is run by Tina, Tiffany, and Ivy. Most of the girls were the OC variety of Vietnamese girls; nothing really special. Didn't see any customers going into the back or getting any play.
Upstairs bar is owned by Nancy, Jenny, Wendy, and Vicky (Jada is not involved with ownership, but does bring her customers by to get drinks early, before she goes into EN). I ran a tab to see what they would do. Nancy immediately ordered $40 drink and had the bartender give Jenny a $40 drink after I told her no. When they thought I wasn't watching, Jenny had the bartender give Nancy another $40 drink and add to my tab without asking. I told Wendy what happened, but since she is a minority stakeholder, she couldn't make it right.
It's a bar in search of an identity. They want to keep the sports bar setup in the front and have a live DJ and a hostess bar in the back area close to the bar and bathrooms. I only saw 5 booths for customers and almost no privacy in any of the booths. They are trying to hire a mix of local, Korean, and mainland Vietnamese girls. If Jenny and Nancy's actions are any indication, this will be a bar with rip-off action. I would not go back.
Well, it's a little early. I think the best time to come to Happiness is around 11:00pm. If you want some action I think you should try Nikki. She is hot, fun and a little crazy. Stay away from Mimi, she was terrible. Last time I sat with her, she tried to cheat when she added more drinks on my tab.Horney28,
Its been awhile since I've been to Happiness. Can you describe Nikki & the type of action.
Magic Fingers
03-28-08, 23:32
I was there last night too. I only saw 6 girls no new faces and nothing special to look at. Half of them don't even speak or understand english. I brought a girl a drink and she came back with a $40 drink. Wasnt happy with that but i paid always. I'm never going back there again. What a RIP OFF!!! Those $$$ hungry B****es just lost themselves a good customer.
Night Colors
03-28-08, 23:35
Did the rounds last night and checked out Mystique and Upstairs Bar. Mystique is run by Tina, Tiffany, and Ivy. Most of the girls were the OC variety of Vietnamese girls; nothing really special. Didn't see any customers going into the back or getting any play.
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Ivy has "disappered" last I checked, see also moved out of her old place months ago. I haven't seen her at the bar in half a year or so. I don't miss her, she was always too strict on a number of "rules".
Did the rounds last night and checked out Mystique and Upstairs Bar. Mystique is run by Tina, Tiffany, and Ivy. Most of the girls were the OC variety of Vietnamese girls; nothing really special. Didn't see any customers going into the back or getting any play.
Upstairs bar is owned by Nancy, Jenny, Wendy, and Vicky (Jada is not involved with ownership, but does bring her customers by to get drinks early, before she goes into EN). I ran a tab to see what they would do. Nancy immediately ordered $40 drink and had the bartender give Jenny a $40 drink after I told her no. When they thought I wasn't watching, Jenny had the bartender give Nancy another $40 drink and add to my tab without asking. I told Wendy what happened, but since she is a minority stakeholder, she couldn't make it right.
It's a bar in search of an identity. They want to keep the sports bar setup in the front and have a live DJ and a hostess bar in the back area close to the bar and bathrooms. I only saw 5 booths for customers and almost no privacy in any of the booths. They are trying to hire a mix of local, Korean, and mainland Vietnamese girls. If Jenny and Nancy's actions are any indication, this will be a bar with rip-off action. I would not go back.Agree with the upstairs bar. I think it will be renamed to "club charm" or something like that. Beware of the $40 drinks, they seem to be charging $40 for drinks, total rip off. There really aren't any private booths, they can't have it both ways so they have to make a decision on what they want over there. I doubt they will be around if they keep charging $40 drinks. I visited and grumbled about the $40 drinks, wendy just brought another drink and said that I had to pay for both. I did but she brought over her "cousin" vi. No play and total waste of money. Don't think they will be able to compete with sky with no private booths.
This may sound a little funny, but could someone give me the heads up on girls at Romantei who do NOT play?
I find many of them very attractive, but have only really gone a handful of times. Sometimes these 'reverse' questions tend to generate a little more dialogue anyway.
Thanks guys.
I was there last night too. I only saw 6 girls no new faces and nothing special to look at. Half of them don't even speak or understand english. I brought a girl a drink and she came back with a $40 drink. Wasnt happy with that but i paid always. I'm never going back there again. What a RIP OFF!!! Those $$$ hungry B****es just lost themselves a good customer.The only girl worth getting any play from is vicky! If she likes you she will play and of course there has to be drinks bought for her. But if you're smart you can talk her into leaving the bar with you for a short period and then come back. I found that to be a money saver than buying $$$$ worth of cranberry juice!
This may sound a little funny, but could someone give me the heads up on girls at Romantei who do NOT play?
I find many of them very attractive, but have only really gone a handful of times. Sometimes these 'reverse' questions tend to generate a little more dialogue anyway.
Thanks guys.
Your best bet is to ask the girl your interested in, you should be able to get a good idea from her reaction. If she smiles and ask if you want to go to the room, you have a good chance of play. If she is not interested and does not play she will let you know.
Horney28,
Its been awhile since I've been to Happiness. Can you describe Nikki & the type of action.Nikkie is a young and very attractive woman. She is pettie with nice natural tits. She has the most sexiest lips that I had ever kissed (her lips makes her looked super hot when she sucked my ding-ding, I gave her A++++). I had sit with 3 girls at Happiness. Mimi is rip off and no longer working there. Lina is a little bit older, very friendly but honestly I couldn't understand anything she said. As for the price, I think it would depends on how much tequila she had drink (She is the only one that speak English fluently and drinks the real tequila instead of tea/water). I went to the private room with her the second time we met. I paid $$$ for a complete service, which was incredible. Her pussy is super tight, but the most amazing thing is I had no freaking clue how she can squeeze her pelvic muscle which makes me feel extremely good.
You should give it a try, I think it worthed, I probably come to see her sometimes next week.
*PS: There were couple chubby girls working over there that I saw. Let me know if you sit with any one of them.
Have fun!
Is Lin back at Secret?
Haven't had time to stop by.
Nikkie is a young and very attractive woman. She is pettie with nice natural tits. She has the most sexiest lips that I had ever kissed (her lips makes her looked super hot when she sucked my ding-ding, I gave her A++++). I had sit with 3 girls at Happiness. Mimi is rip off and no longer working there. Lina is a little bit older, very friendly but honestly I couldn't understand anything she said. As for the price, I think it would depends on how much tequila she had drink (She is the only one that speak English fluently and drinks the real tequila instead of tea/water). I went to the private room with her the second time we met. I paid $$$ for a complete service, which was incredible. Her pussy is super tight, but the most amazing thing is I had no freaking clue how she can squeeze her pelvic muscle which makes me feel extremely good.
You should give it a try, I think it worthed, I probably come to see her sometimes next week.
*PS: There were couple chubby girls working over there that I saw. Let me know if you sit with any one of them.
Have fun!Does the $$$ include the drinks and everything?
Has anyone seen Kayla? She used to be at Sky for awhile and then went to Romantei.
CheapCharlie
04-01-08, 08:39
Anybody checked out SL this past friday night at around 12:30. I heard this guy yelling and seemed to be causing a big commotion. Was he drunk or felt he got ripped off by a girl?
Member #4374
04-04-08, 01:55
Nikkie is a young and very attractive woman. She is pettie with nice natural tits. She has the most sexiest lips that I had ever kissed (her lips makes her looked super hot when she sucked my ding-ding, I gave her A++++). You should give it a try, I think it worthed, I probably come to see her sometimes next week.
Have fun!I went to Happiness on Sunday night and one of the girls pointed Nikkie out to me. She didn't look all that terrific. Is this you writing your own reviews Nikkie? Nah, just joking. I know how it is after you've had a good fuck and have that feeling of euphoria.
The only one that looked good when I went around 11:30 on Sunday night was the one who didn't give me any play last time. So I just told her "next time" when she asked for a drink. This one fat girl (with bad breath), Lisa, sat down at the booth with me and my friend and asked for a drink. I told her "next time". But she kept hanging around and was fun to joke with, so I bought her one. 2 drink. She was rubbing Mr. Happy and also stuck her tongue down my throat. I think from when she sat down to when we left, she was there about half an hour (of course she kept asking for another drink, but I said No). Pretty good mileage for one. 2 drink. Of course I wouldn't repeat.
Maybe I'll check this place out on a "prime time night" and see if they got any hot chicks I can take to the backroom and bone.
She's alright lookin. I think that was her writing her own reviews, notice the bad English. She does play in the back booths. The other girls aren't the greatest looking either, but there was this local hottie, Jessica (? ) that works whenever she needs to. Great eye candy, but I don't think she plays.
Member #4374
04-06-08, 09:19
Checked out Sky bar and a older but hot chick, Cindy, asked for a drink and I said sure. She had a nice body and decent face, and was drinking liquor. She was fun to play with, rubbing Mr. Happy and then straddled me while I caressed her ass and tits. She asked if I wanted to go to the champagne room for $$$, so I asked if I get to use the condom. She said I scared her and got off me and sat next to me and tried to hustle another drink. I had already bought two 20-cent drinks and one 40-cent drink in a relatively short amount of time, so I declined. I like to get bang for my buck (literally). They did have some lookers working Saturday night at Sky.
I also went to Napa Valley to grind after. They had junk chicks there. I was tempted to go to the MP next to Napa's, but didn't.
Checked out Sky bar and a older but hot chick, Cindy, asked for a drink and I said sure. She had a nice body and decent face, and was drinking liquor. She was fun to play with, rubbing Mr. Happy and then straddled me while I caressed her ass and tits. She asked if I wanted to go to the champagne room for $$$, so I asked if I get to use the condom. She said I scared her and got off me and sat next to me and tried to hustle another drink. I had already bought two 20-cent drinks and one 40-cent drink in a relatively short amount of time, so I declined. I like to get bang for my buck (literally). They did have some lookers working Saturday night at Sky.
I also went to Napa Valley to grind after. They had junk chicks there. I was tempted to go to the MP next to Napa's, but didn't.Cindy is a hustler and a regular at sky lounge. Fake boobs look kind of funny when you get a close look at them. Not sure how much play you get from her in the room but I do know that she hustles lots of drinks, although you do get some play from her.
Name will change later this week. Saturday is victoria secret night so i'm planning to stop by to see if the secret is let out. Seems like all the hottest viet girls from the other bars have been recruited there. Drinks are EXPENSIVE though.
Thumperforq
04-07-08, 13:31
Is Lin back at Secret?
Haven't had time to stop by.
She's back. I sat with her on Saturday. A little play, but expensive. Tracy sent her over too me. Bought her drinks, but did not know she was charging $0.40 drinks. Derek and Tracy know me, so they were keeping track of how much I was spending and cut her off before my bill got too high. Only play I got from her was fiv. She asked if I wanted to go to the room, but wouldn't tell me how much it cost. Total damage $$.
CheapCharlie
04-08-08, 08:24
She's back. I sat with her on Saturday. A little play, but expensive. Tracy sent her over too me. Bought her drinks, but did not know she was charging $0.40 drinks. Derek and Tracy know me, so they were keeping track of how much I was spending and cut her off before my bill got too high. Only play I got from her was fiv. She asked if I wanted to go to the room, but wouldn't tell me how much it cost. Total damage $$.
Aren't most if not all of the girls at Secret big time hustlers? The only one I partially trust is Mailee. Watch out for Lily, the biggest ROB at Secret.
Aren't most if not all of the girls at Secret big time hustlers? The only one I partially trust is Mailee. Watch out for Lily, the biggest ROB at Secret.
Is this the Mailee that use to work in Kalihi? She's local Vietnamese in her mid to late 30's?
Magic Fingers
04-09-08, 08:19
You mean all the RIP OFF GIRLS. That's why the drinks are EXPENSIVE. Good Luck Man!
Name will change later this week. Saturday is victoria secret night so i'm planning to stop by to see if the secret is let out. Seems like all the hottest viet girls from the other bars have been recruited there. Drinks are EXPENSIVE though.
CheapCharlie
04-09-08, 08:19
Is this the Mailee that use to work in Kalihi? She's local Vietnamese in her mid to late 30's?
I dunno,the only bar I know her from is Secret.
Has anyone got some bbfs or bbbj from her?
Does she do take out?
How much?
Has anyone got some bbfs or bbbj from her?
Does she do take out?
How much?
yes, she does if she likes you. also, she does take out, only did it once for $$$.
yes, she does if she likes you. also, she does take out, only did it once for $$$.How does Vicki look like?
Where does she let you finish if she let you go BB?
Has anyone got some bbfs or bbbj from her?
Does she do take out?
How much?
Heard she might have moved to that new place above D'Amour.
Heard she might have moved to that new place above D'Amour.Yes she is now working as part manager of the bar above d'amour. She looks sort of like lucy lui, and if she likes you she'll give you great service but no freebies though!
Yes she is now working as part manager of the bar above d'amour. She looks sort of like lucy lui, and if she likes you she'll give you great service but no freebies though!
While she was at Secret I got a BBBJ and CFS (she sat on me spoon-like in the booth). It was about 1.5 all told with drinks and all. It was supposed to just be a BBBJ, but she was horny and sat on me w/o extra negotiation.
The funny part was the TV was on above our booth and Lucy Liu was on the Tonight Show promoting her new movie (Lucky Number Slevin) at that time.
THAT was a cool experience because I was able to fantasize about fucking L.L.
Name will change later this week. Saturday is victoria secret night so i'm planning to stop by to see if the secret is let out. Seems like all the hottest viet girls from the other bars have been recruited there. Drinks are EXPENSIVE though.New name of the bar is called Club Charm. Mama's are nancy (from romantei), jennifer (thick girl, worked at romantei, club velvet, by nite and s & j's), wendy (also worked at velvet, by nite and s & j's) and I think sticky vicki. You can see their pictures in the advertiser, sports section the last couple of days.
Is this the Mailee that use to work in Kalihi? She's local Vietnamese in her mid to late 30's?.No it isn't the same mailee.
New name of the bar is called Club Charm. Mama's are nancy (from romantei), jennifer (thick girl, worked at romantei, club velvet, by nite and s & j's), wendy (also worked at velvet, by nite and s & j's) and I think sticky vicki. You can see their pictures in the advertiser, sports section the last couple of days.
No it isn't the same mailee.Do the viets at charm play? Names of best players? Do the mamas play? Or did they stop when they became mamas? Last nite was going to TOFFT but got sidetracked at Nirvana.
CheapCharlie
04-12-08, 23:45
Checked it out last night and was crowded! Tried to order a drink,was waiting for 5 mins. then said fuck it! Lots of hot looking viet. girls,some were decked out in lingerie. Will definitely check this place out later when the crowd dies out. Also stopped in at Sky Lounge and was slow due to all their customers going to Charm. But people started to come in after 12.
Aaron Colt
04-13-08, 01:32
Do the viets at charm play? names of best players? do the mamas play? or did they stop when they became mamas? last nite was going to TOFFT but got sidetracked at nirvana.Jennifer plays but you gotta have your beer goggles on to partake.
Nancy is a tease, but fun, just dont let yourself get out of hand with her. You can spend alot of money on her. She keeps the carrot just long enough out there for you to desire more.
CheapCharlie
04-13-08, 04:54
Jennifer plays but you gotta have your beer goggles on to partake.
Nancy is a tease, but fun, just dont let yourself get out of hand with her. You can spend alot of money on her. She keeps the carrot just long enough out there for you to desire more.
Is the Jennifer you're talking about 5 feet tall,bleached hair,c-cups and little on the chubby side. She jumped around various bars(Sandy&Jens,Romantei,Happiness,By nite,Asia and last time I saw her Secret)
Aaron Colt
04-13-08, 14:14
Is the Jennifer you're talking about 5 feet tall,bleached hair,c-cups and little on the chubby side. She jumped around various bars(Sandy&Jens,Romantei,Happiness,By nite,Asia and last time I saw her Secret)Mixed haole, vietnamese. That is her.
Is the Jennifer you're talking about 5 feet tall, bleached hair, c-cups and little on the chubby side. She jumped around various bars(Sandy & Jens, Romantei, Happiness, By nite, Asia and last time I saw her Secret)Actually I think that chunky jennifer works at new saigon nites (old s & j's). Saw her this past Monday night so maybe she still is moving around.
Btw, there is another jennifer working at club charm, she is one of the mamas. This one worked at by nite and velvet. She drove a bmw 745i a few years ago. She is one of the girls on the outside of the charm ad (in the advertiser) last week. I think she was on the top left corner. Nancy is on the bottom left corner of the ad and wendy is on the right bottom corner. Is that vicky on the right top corner?
Not sure about play at charm, the main room is too open so looks like play would only be in the rooms, IMHO. They need to make it more "private" in the main area like sky does before the place fills up.
Since nobody mentioned, there was a raid at club secret on Monday night. Many LE came in and busted some girls there. I think one girl was lily, good for her. Think another girl also got busted but not sure who. Actually I'm kind of surprised that she hasn't gotten busted earlier since she is a major player there (and ROB too).
Actually I think that chunky jennifer works at new saigon nites (old s & j's). Saw her this past Monday night so maybe she still is moving around.
Btw, there is another jennifer working at club charm, she is one of the mamas. This one worked at by nite and velvet. She drove a bmw 745i a few years ago. She is one of the girls on the outside of the charm ad (in the advertiser) last week. I think she was on the top left corner. Nancy is on the bottom left corner of the ad and wendy is on the right bottom corner. Is that vicky on the right top corner?
Not sure about play at charm, the main room is too open so looks like play would only be in the rooms, IMHO. They need to make it more "private" in the main area like sky does before the place fills up.
Since nobody mentioned, there was a raid at club secret on Monday night. Many LE came in and busted some girls there. I think one girl was lily, good for her. Think another girl also got busted but not sure who. Actually I'm kind of surprised that she hasn't gotten busted earlier since she is a major player there (and ROB too).Anyone been there since change name? Worth visiting for play?
Anybody see the fight on Wednesday night, around midnight in the sky lounge parking lot? Any idea what the fight was about? One guy got beat up pretty bad against 3 guys. Not sure where the guys came from but the waiter at Sky Lounge knew the 3 guys.
Anyone been there since change name? Worth visiting for play?
Don't know about play, but I saw two nice looking girls there. One that use to be at By Nite and this bartender girl that I also notice bartends at Mystique once in awhile. Good luck.
Anyone know about Secret getting raided?
Neko Hunta
04-19-08, 21:24
Anyone know about Secret getting raided?Don't know the specifics, but happened Wednesday night. Went to Camelot, was empty,
bartender said that Secret got raided. I guess kinda scared the girls at the other 2 bars.
Anyone know about Secret getting raided?
Did Lin get arrested?
Got to Happiness at 10:00 on Friday. Only one customer at the bar. 3-4 girls lounging around. Sat down for a beer and Nikki appears in very short dress, strapless and asks for drink. I suggest back booth and as soon as we sit she's rubbing johnny and telling me she's a party girl. In the course of buying her 2 drinks - real stuff, not tea - she uses her mouth on outside of pants, does lapdance, lets me fiv with loose fitting thong, rubs, rubs, rubs. Slim bod, face about a 6 or 7, nice long wavy hair, terrific legs, and both of our hands are roaming all over. On to the back room for $$. Small room with a wall mirror opposite one half of a booth (the part to sit on - no table). She gets me naked then loses the dress. I sit on the seat, she kneels on the floor and bbbj. Her sucking has got good suction, good technique includes the jewels. Then she kneels on the seat next to me and continues bbbj so I can fiv. Real wet. Wondering if I'm feeling fellow monger's cum. Tight, slippery hole all the way to the g-spot. bbbjcim no problem, even shots on her chest and in her hair. I'm no longer a cim virgin. If you mongers need a quickie, Nikki's the answer. This place is dead. Don't know how they stay open. Girls must be ez in order to make $.
More To Love
04-27-08, 02:22
Got to Happiness at 10:00 on Friday. Only one customer at the bar. 3-4 girls lounging around. Sat down for a beer and Nikki appears in very short dress, strapless and asks for drink. I suggest back booth and as soon as we sit she's rubbing johnny and telling me she's a party girl. In the course of buying her 2 drinks - real stuff, not tea - she uses her mouth on outside of pants, does lapdance, lets me fiv with loose fitting thong, rubs, rubs, rubs. Slim bod, face about a 6 or 7, nice long wavy hair, terrific legs, and both of our hands are roaming all over. On to the back room for $$. Small room with a wall mirror opposite one half of a booth (the part to sit on - no table). She gets me naked then loses the dress. I sit on the seat, she kneels on the floor and bbbj. Her sucking has got good suction, good technique includes the jewels. Then she kneels on the seat next to me and continues bbbj so I can fiv. Real wet. Wondering if I'm feeling fellow monger's cum. Tight, slippery hole all the way to the g-spot. bbbjcim no problem, even shots on her chest and in her hair. I'm no longer a cim virgin. If you mongers need a quickie, Nikki's the answer. This place is dead. Don't know how they stay open. Girls must be ez in order to make $.Thanks, great to know. I saw her last week.
Thanks, MTL
Just had to mention that I went by for a viewing - and the botox monster must have attacked Nancy. Cho cho lips have a new pic in my dictionary now.
Oh well, she used to be a cutie.
Funds are tight, so I wasn't able to sample any delicacies -but I thought Wendy was kind of cute (no make up and she was covering her hair) but she had her mama mojo on, so nothing would be easy.
Vicky was trying to get drinks out of everyone - nothing has changed.
Some local girls came in to work and it probably would have been a fun nite, if I were rich.
Just had to mention that I went by for a viewing - and the botox monster must have attacked Nancy. Cho cho lips have a new pic in my dictionary now.
Oh well, she used to be a cutie.
Funds are tight, so I wasn't able to sample any delicacies -but I thought Wendy was kind of cute (no make up and she was covering her hair) but she had her mama mojo on, so nothing would be easy.
Vicky was trying to get drinks out of everyone - nothing has changed.
Some local girls came in to work and it probably would have been a fun nite, if I were rich.Not sure but nancy had pocho lips for awhile now. Wendy is a cutie, local girl from florida with nice natural tits but because she is one of the mama's she tries to pawn you off on one of the working girls.
Beware of the $40 drinks!
Local girls are eye candy but not worth the money as you don't get squat from them, no play at all. Not much better than the girls at allure, all hotties but no play.
Neko Hunta
04-30-08, 08:15
Club Mystique? Beware! Somethings are mystique about this place! Went there the other night with the boys. Earlier serveillance found some eye candy that needed to taste. Sat down, had a few rounds then they came. 2viet, 1 Chinese. I think. All solid looking and young! How you doing?
Sat with the Chinese girl Nani a little bit chunky but still sexy, nice personality, can! Could be that the air was thin from all the oxygen she was robbing with her set of lungs! Finally, 20 minutes later the question popped. Buy us drinks? My compadre was the first to say ok, so one round for the girls coming up. Waiter came by, dropped the drinks off and said $. 4 each. WTF? I don't mind and I know there is $. 4 drinks if they ask, most say before hand that they want $. 4 instead of $. 2 drinks. Not normally without asking, right? And it looked like 1 teaspoon of so called Hennesey in a brandy snifter glass. We all hesitantly paid. Talked more and tried to do a little touchy touchy. She stops my hand then tells me there is a no touch policy here! WTF? Again. Couldn't even put my hand on her thigh! PISSED OFF NOW! Downed my GB, waited outside for the others to finish to get the F! At# out of there.
Oh yah, by the way, there were some people smoking inside the place! Brings back memories. Cigarette, incents, fish sauce smelling bars. Mean da dope! Isn't it againt the law? To add, the Karaoke in there sucks! Ears was bleeding from the distortion and volume! No wonder the place is dead. No can!
I will never go back!
Lataz,
Neko
Mystique and Charm are bringing this "concept" to Oahu. Apparently it is now the norm on Maui and their friends and relatives say they are making $$$$$ on Maui because of it.
Yvonne does it at Rock Za but at least those are private show prices, so you know what you are getting.
Misty I used to do it (I haven't been there in a while) but those were back booth prices, so it only took 2 trips for the waiter - less interruptions.
I am not proclaiming a boycott - however, JUST SAY NO to a standard price of $40 - especially if you aren't given an option. A bartenderess told me not to let them (the hostesses) get away with it - of course, being polite and charming while declining the offer of spending your money 2x as fast.
The laws of economics will prevail. There are fewer customers with money and these girls are trying to squeeze money from rocks.
It is bad enough to pay $20 for green tea (watered down) - as I remember $10 drinks.
It all comes down to "value per dollar" and the competition (AMPs etc) has set the bar at a certain level. A $40 drink almost covers the house fee, so it better be a door opener with these girls, not a "don't touch" fee.
Just had to mention that I went by for a viewing - and the botox monster must have attacked Nancy. Cho cho lips have a new pic in my dictionary now.Oh well, she used to be a cutie.
Funds are tight, so I wasn't able to sample any delicacies -but I thought Wendy was kind of cute (no make up and she was covering her hair) but she had her mama mojo on, so nothing would be easy.
Dude, ChoCho lips for shure! Lol! I thought the same, but yeah, Wendy is a cutie. I saw her one night that she had the boobs on display and I could not stop staring. She seems to always be smiling and very friendly.
Night Colors
05-02-08, 22:42
Mystique and Charm are bringing this "concept" to Oahu. Apparently it is now the norm on Maui and their friends and relatives say they are making $$$$$ on Maui because of it.
Yvonne does it at Rock Za but at least those are private show prices, so you know what you are getting.
Misty I used to do it (I haven't been there in a while) but those were back booth prices, so it only took 2 trips for the waiter - less interruptions.
I am not proclaiming a boycott - however, JUST SAY NO to a standard price of $40 - especially if you aren't given an option. A bartenderess told me not to let them (the hostesses) get away with it - of course, being polite and charming while declining the offer of spending your money 2x as fast.
The laws of economics will prevail. There are fewer customers with money and these girls are trying to squeeze money from rocks.
It is bad enough to pay $20 for green tea (watered down) - as I remember $10 drinks.
It all comes down to "value per dollar" and the competition (AMPs etc) has set the bar at a certain level. A $40 drink almost covers the house fee, so it better be a door opener with these girls, not a "don't touch" fee.
I am fond of both bars right now and the girls. However $40 standard is B.S. if your just hanging out and not looking for action. It should be $20 unless the girl is being extra fun or helpful. As it is now you gotta ask each time or end up with a surprise at tab time. I few other places are testing out the $40 as well. Maybe they should push for $25 or $30 - it would meet less resistance.
The viet bars are pushing the $40 drinks because customers are buying into it and paying the $40. This is happening at some Maui bars and also on the big island. Many girls working on maui and the big island either were from honolulu or have moved back to honolulu. Many that are coming back to honolulu are trying the $40 drinks here. Viet bar on Maui, saigon nites or something like that is charging $40 drinks. One of the managers there is michelle, who worked at romantei and club velvet. I bought her 1 $40 drink but that was it. She comes back and works at mistique once and a while when she needs a break from the Maui scene. I think she or mistique probably tried the $40 drinks here to see if it would work here.
Neko, unless you get some action, next time you buy them drinks and the waiter tells you $40 a drink, tell them to forget it, that you will only pay for $20 drinks. Usually the girls and waiter will allow the $20 drinks and if they don't then better to just not spend anything on the girls and let them go on their way. If they allow the $20 drinks then tell the girl after the waiter leaves that you only pay for $40 drinks if you get some action. The girl will either say no and leave (best to lose only $20) or will allow some play, but for $40 drinks.
Most of the girls at mistique don't play, especially the younger ones. If they are young or local you aren't going to get much play.
The bars are pulling that $40 drink shit because they figure you would pay it. Most of the time the girls will allow you to buy $20 drinks but may drink fast to make more money. Their game is to get as much money out of your wallet as they can.
Luckily we don't see that crap at the korean bars (yet) but many of the viet bars are pulling that shit, saigon nites (old s & j's), secret and charm are all pulling that scam. I told a girl at saigon nites that I could get laid for $. 6, why would I spend $40 for a drink she is going to drink fast. She lowered it down to $20 but drank fast so I left after the first drink.
IMHO unless the girl is playing with my johnson or I am playing with her, I ain't going to buy the f*n girl $40 drinks. I think we should all put a stop to this $40 drinkie crap then it may go away. If customers continue to pay the $40 then the bars will continue to pull that shit.
CheapCharlie
05-04-08, 02:03
I remember someone in a previous post asking whereabouts of Kayla. Well I was at SL last night and saw her.
Neko Hunta
05-04-08, 09:22
That's why I'm going to stay away from those Viet places! No can! Better off sitting at the bar, just look! Same thing, only cheaper! I cannot see myself paying $40 for a sip of whateva without any actions! I know that they are young and sexy, major eye candy. But still! WTF! Romatei, Sandy and Jens, Velvets was never like that! No touch policy? ! BS! If they going to play the game. They should go "all in"! Customer satisfaction? ! Right? ! Mo betta go sit with some o'lady from? , or etc. Touchy/Touchy? BBBJCIM? Mo bang for the buck! Or just go straight to a AMP! Maybe that shit going to work on Maui, or Kona but in Honolulu? IDTS(I don't think so! ) Too much "game" here!
Neko, unless you get some action, next time you buy them drinks and the waiter tells you $40 a drink, tell them to forget it, that you will only pay for $20 drinks. If customers continue to pay the $40 then the bars will continue to pull that shit.
LOL...theres a girl working at Join Us in Pearl City that said she worked in Maui. Told me if she sits at the table with a customer the drinks cost $40. Told her well you can sit by yourself at the table then...heh.
LOL...theres a girl working at Join Us in Pearl City that said she worked in Maui. Told me if she sits at the table with a customer the drinks cost $40. Told her well you can sit by yourself at the table then...heh.Dumb b*tch. Thinks we're f*n stupid? Like I said, unless I get action, no way am I going to pay f*n $40. Hope nobody pays, she will learn soon enough but if guys pay the $40 she and others are going to keep pulling that crap.
Member #4374
05-05-08, 19:43
So how much do you guys figure a "primetime" (hot & fun) bargirl makes in a week. I estimate $1500-$2000/week. Is this too high or too low?
Night Colors
05-05-08, 23:45
I agree totally. They drink the $40 just as fast as the $20. You're at your limit before you know it. :( I see almost no extra value from it.
Now if she's willing to sit and drink a whole bottle of beer for the $40 like some girls in the past would do, then ok.
I agree totally. They drink the $40 just as fast as the $20. You're at your limit before you know it. :( I see almost no extra value from it.
Now if she's willing to sit and drink a whole bottle of beer for the $40 like some girls in the past would do, then ok.
Actually, I have paid $40 for a full bottle of Heineken. For some reason, it's always Heine. At Vegas II, I bought this hostess 3 Heine's, and that got me the right to buy her 2 bottles of sochu @ $$, which got me bbhj, bbbj, bare boobs/nipple play and sucking, and he. Not a great return on investment but I was hot for her bod and left satisfied. However, since then I've discovered amps and will not repeat. Then, like a fool who only thinks with the wrong head, I ended up buying a couple of $40 Heines for Mina at D'Amour a couple of months ago. She's the late week nite time bartender. Nice personality, lots of fun, johnny got rubbed thru the trou, and got some boob and nipple play in the booth. And she did drink the whole bottle.
I guess you can't totally compare $ outlay with play provided, since sometimes you just can't help yourself because the girl is so enticing. But make sure the $40 goes for a real 12oz bottle of beer and she drinks the whole thing.
Happy mongering.
As I read this all I can think is that 3 of those drinks = 90min massage and the girl works you instead and depending where a HE
Ka-chang! Need massage anywhere else.
So how much do you guys figure a "primetime" (hot & fun) bargirl makes in a week. I estimate $1500-$2000/week. Is this too high or too low?
Depends on how many days a week she works. Primetime girls/real hustlers at the KBs can pull in $5k per week with bottles in the room. Heck, I've been with friends and the bar tab was $10k for the 4 of us and 4 girls. Hot new girls probably pull in $2k - $3k per week.
However, a lot of this has been changing as people aren't spending as much at the bars these days.
Neko Hunta
05-06-08, 03:28
So how much do you guys figure a "primetime" (hot & fun) bargirl makes in a week. I estimate $1500-$2000/week. Is this too high or too low?Try more like $1500 to $2000 in one night! You are talking about "primetime" ones, right? Most of them end up in the rooms. Champagne, bekseju, all add up. Try and go to Camelot and check it out. Notice the bar full? Notice all the booths full? Notice all the "primetime" bar girls gone? They are all in the rooms busy! I witnessed this a couple of times. Get there and the place is crowded. Maybe 3-5 girls are out on the floor. Ask Mama "where are all the girls"? Sorry, they all busy, in the rooms.
Too me most of the "regular" bar girls make that much.
Lataz,
Neko
I remember someone in a previous post asking whereabouts of Kayla. Well I was at SL last night and saw her.Were is SL?
Were is SL?
Sky Lounge (SL) is located at 1362 Kapiolani Boulevard, on the mauka side of Kapiolani, Diamond Head of the Sheridan Street intersection and Ewa of the Keeaumoku Street intersection.
Actually, I have paid $40 for a full bottle of Heineken. For some reason, it's always Heine. At Vegas II, I bought this hostess 3 Heine's, and that got me the right to buy her 2 bottles of sochu @ $$, which got me bbhj, bbbj, bare boobs/nipple play and sucking, and he. Not a great return on investment but I was hot for her bod and left satisfied. However, since then I've discovered amps and will not repeat. Then, like a fool who only thinks with the wrong head, I ended up buying a couple of $40 Heines for Mina at D'Amour a couple of months ago. She's the late week nite time bartender. Nice personality, lots of fun, johnny got rubbed thru the trou, and got some boob and nipple play in the booth. And she did drink the whole bottle.
I guess you can't totally compare $ outlay with play provided, since sometimes you just can't help yourself because the girl is so enticing. But make sure the $40 goes for a real 12oz bottle of beer and she drinks the whole thing.
Happy mongering.Thought I'd give you a heads up just in case. One night a couple of years ago at vegas II (or whatever it was called at that time) I noticed one of the bar girl splitting one bottle of beer, putting half of the beer into an empty bottle and filling both up with 7 up or some carbonated stuff. She did this for a few beers. I had a good laugh because when her customers sat with her she would bring out the beer, after a few "beers" the guy was surprised that she could drink the beer so fast and not get drunk. I thought about telling him about it but I figured that he was having fun with the girl so he probably got his money's worth.
Now I don't think your situation may be the same as most of the girls there do drink bottles of the real stuff but it's sometimes good to take a swig to see if it's for real sometimes.
As for Mina at D'Amour, is this the girl with short hair with the nice rack? She seems to get drunk a lot, didn't know she plays as I tried before but was unsuccessful.
I notice the new thing at the bars is for the girl to have a "mini" beer. It's a smaller bottle of miller lite or coors lite or some other beer.
Sky Lounge (SL) is located at 1362 Kapiolani Boulevard, on the mauka side of Kapiolani, Diamond Head of the Sheridan Street intersection and Ewa of the Keeaumoku Street intersection.Thanks for the 411, will ck it out.
Member #3973
05-10-08, 19:12
Thought I'd give you a heads up just in case. One night a couple of years ago at vegas II (or whatever it was called at that time) I noticed one of the bar girl splitting one bottle of beer, putting half of the beer into an empty bottle and filling both up with 7 up or some carbonated stuff. She did this for a few beers. I had a good laugh because when her customers sat with her she would bring out the beer, after a few "beers" the guy was surprised that she could drink the beer so fast and not get drunk. I thought about telling him about it but I figured that he was having fun with the girl so he probably got his money's worth.
Now I don't think your situation may be the same as most of the girls there do drink bottles of the real stuff but it's sometimes good to take a swig to see if it's for real sometimes.
Does it really matter if the girls drink real booze? most ladies drinks are tea or deluted with carbonated water. Think about it! How do you think the most successful and shapely girls would look after a year or two on constant booze. The calories alone would be enough to make them looks like their customers!
Does it really matter if the girls drink real booze? most ladies drinks are tea or deluted with carbonated water. Think about it! How do you think the most successful and shapely girls would look after a year or two on constant booze. The calories alone would be enough to make them looks like their customers!
If the girl really is having a good time with you. She would order Shochu (sp.?) I know I got a girl pretty wasted. I had a plant next to me and she kept on drinking. I did enjoy her comforts afterwards.
Primal Needs
05-11-08, 01:17
If the girl really is having a good time with you. She would order Shochu (sp.?) I know I got a girl pretty wasted. I had a plant next to me and she kept on drinking. I did enjoy her comforts afterwards.
It's fun when I can see a girl getting tipsy, but sometimes I see girls getting smashed, and that's not good either. We've all seen extremely-wasted girls get hauled away by their friends. Then, it's a loss of your investment, because it's not likely that you'll get play from a girl who's about to barf.
In the end, I don't really care if they're drinking or not.
Primal Needs
If the girl really is having a good time with you. She would order Shochu (sp.?) I know I got a girl pretty wasted. I had a plant next to me and she kept on drinking. I did enjoy her comforts afterwards.Do you mean soju?
It's Korean rice whiskey.
Night Colors
05-11-08, 16:07
It's fun when I can see a girl getting tipsy, but sometimes I see girls getting smashed, and that's not good either. We've all seen extremely-wasted girls get hauled away by their friends. Then, it's a loss of your investment, because it's not likely that you'll get play from a girl who's about to barf.
In the end, I don't really care if they're drinking or not.
Primal Needs
I've also seen girls that I knew personally outside the bar turn into raging alcoholics. Leaving the bar with a bottle of Crown in their purses, drinking straight off the bottle on the drive home, drinking whiskey first thing in the morning, vomiting in the street, getting DUI's and having accidents, having to be hospitalised for stomach ulcers, having liver problems, and so on. When you know the girl as a person, it really puts things straight.
That is why, I never push girls to drink alcohol when they don't want to. If they want to fine, but don't push. I just make sure my drink always includes plenty of Jack Daniels goodness. That's my choice and I don't have to drink every day.
Do you mean soju?
It's Korean rice whiskey.
"Some Japanese shōchū makers label their products for US export as soju, the Korean distilled liquor, due to a loophole in liquor licensing laws in New York and California that allows restaurants with a beer & wine license to sell soju. This allows these establishments to sell cocktails based on soju or shochu while avoiding the expense and restrictions of obtaining a full bar license."
It's the same thing.
More To Love
05-12-08, 05:15
Since the talk on $40 drinks came up, all girls I sat with this weekend were charging $40. My tab was over $$ in less than 65 minutes. I found out when I asked about my tab. The girl was only drinking tea at $40 shots for god's sake.
Girls said that they read the forum and that it's okay to charge these prices. This is a rip off, especially if there is little play. I can no longer afford to buy these women drinks at these prices. They are so money hungry.
I'm better off in Kalihi nowadays.
MTL
I've also seen girls that I knew personally outside the bar turn into raging alcoholics. Leaving the bar with a bottle of Crown in their purses, drinking straight off the bottle on the drive home, drinking whiskey first thing in the morning, vomiting in the street, getting DUI's and having accidents, having to be hospitalised for stomach ulcers, having liver problems, and so on. When you know the girl as a person, it really puts things straight.
That is why, I never push girls to drink alcohol when they don't want to. If they want to fine, but don't push. I just make sure my drink always includes plenty of Jack Daniels goodness. That's my choice and I don't have to drink every day.But isn't it a job? Lucky they have one and they are not paying taxes!
Does it really matter if the girls drink real booze? most ladies drinks are tea or deluted with carbonated water. Think about it! How do you think the most successful and shapely girls would look after a year or two on constant booze. The calories alone would be enough to make them looks like their customers!
I think most customers like the girl's to drink real booze so they will slow down on there drinks. If they drink tea, it is easier from them to slam there drink and want another one as soon as it hits the table. I use to request the girls to drink a real drink so they do not hound me for another drink and the girl's are more fun when they get tipsy.
Do you mean soju?
It's Korean rice whiskey.
Aloha,
there is a type of liquor called shochu.
It is a Japanese liqour made from barley or sweet potato
here are some of the brand names:
Ichiko
Kuro
Yama no mori
Kichon
alot of these drunks are mixed with oloong tea
or sweet sour to make a drink called chu hi
Soju is a distilled beverage native to Korea and traditionally made from rice. Most brands of modern soju are now made in South Korea, supplementing or even replacing the rice with other starches such as potato, wheat, barley, sweet potato, or tapioca (called dangmil in Korean). Soju is clear in color and typically varies in alcohol content from about 20% to about 45% alcohol by volume (ABV), with 20% ABV being most common. Its taste is comparable to vodka, though often slightly sweeter due to the addition of sugar in the manufacturing process.
Thank you, please drive through.
Hinode
Cali Girl.
Westminster Bar
Well I guess you learn something everyday, sorry for the confusion and the deviation from the main topic but thank you for the informative lesson on Japanese and Korean alcohol.
Does it really matter if the girls drink real booze? most ladies drinks are tea or deluted with carbonated water. Think about it! How do you think the most successful and shapely girls would look after a year or two on constant booze. The calories alone would be enough to make them looks like their customers!Tiantain is right. If the girl drinks tea or just tea splashed with liquor they can drink like a fish all night. Some girls try to act like they are drinking when they are just drinking either a watered down drink or a non alcoholic drink. Some customers want the girl to drink the real thing for the reason that tiantain mentioned. They won't last very long drinking real beers (well there are some girls that can drink a lot of beer but not many) so the customer doesn't have to spend a lot of money. The girl will either get drunk or get bloated and can't drink any more.
The problem is that some girls say they want $40 drinks with the justification that they are drinking a whole bottle of "real" beer. Personally I won't buy a girl $40 drinks but some customers will reluctantly buy the girl $40 drinks if they drink the real thing.
Btw, I even saw a girl at the old t-time when it was on sheridan st. She took an empty bottle of beer and filled it with non alcoholic stuff and laughed when I saw her doing it.
More to love, where did you get hustled with $40 drinks? Just wondering. Ticks me off that girls think they can scam us with the $40 drink crap. We need to send a message to these girls that this scam is unacceptable and make sure these girls know that we are on to them.
I heard she been doing some customers upstairs.
Is it still going on?
Maybe I'll try for some of that shit too.
Anyone knows if Kim still works at Happiness Lounge? Been seeing Nyna on my last few visits and would like a change of pace.
I heard she been doing some customers upstairs.
Is it still going on?
Maybe I'll try for some of that shit too.Yeah its true upstairs and even rolls out with customers to there place. It happened to me!
Johnnyblack
05-16-08, 19:33
hmmmdouble, triple post, my bad
Johnnyblack
05-16-08, 19:40
my bad, triple post, somehow
Johnnyblack
05-16-08, 20:29
New here but was AMP shopping and ended up in Club Secret a few nights ago, sat down with a girl with glitter eyes and a few tats. Slow as hell, so I buy her a few, but before I got comfortable a fellow monger calls me for a Downtown run through and this girl was drinking too fast for my wallet. Left before the fun began. Think her name was Samantha or Sandra or something. Anyone know if she plays? Thinking of going back for a "spin".
Yeah its true upstairs and even rolls out with customers to there place. It happened to me!Hey Twitch,
What club is Vickie at nowdays?
More To Love
05-17-08, 14:29
What club is Vickie at nowdays?Club Charm on Kapiolani Blvd.
As for Mina at D'Amour, is this the girl with short hair with the nice rack? She seems to get drunk a lot, didn't know she plays as I tried before but was unsuccessful.
I notice the new thing at the bars is for the girl to have a "mini" beer. It's a smaller bottle of miller lite or coors lite or some other beer.
I haven't been to D'Amour is over a month but I sat with Mina soon after the place got a new mama. I think she had short hair and definitely had a nice rack and was the bartender later in the week. Early 40s late 30s. We had lots of fun conversation and the $40 Heinekens seemed to loosen her up. I think I bought her 2-3 Heines, she started rubbing my cock through my pants and let me play with her boobs under her shirt. But there's not much privacy there. None of the booths are really hidden like at Happiness or Cheers Station (which just changed name with new mama) and the room is right along the hallway to the restrooms.
I first ran into the mini beers at Eclipse. Yuri and Yujin drink alot of them real fast - at least it's real beer because they bring them to the table unopened. I don't recall where else sells them. D'Amour? Camelot?
As for Mina at D'Amour, is this the girl with short hair with the nice rack? She seems to get drunk a lot, didn't know she plays as I tried before but was unsuccessful.
Mina is on "vacation" for a couple of months from D'Amour. There are two very friendly, young, cute nite time bartenders there now.
Thumperforq
05-22-08, 16:33
Decided to go out late last nite to TOFTT and went to Happiness Lounge. Upon entering I saw about 6 girls ranging from mid-20 to late-30 in age. A small spinner named Ly Na came and sat with me in a booth. I bought her (2) $20 drinks and had light conversation with her. Ly Na is about 4'-10", short hair, about 32A bust, weighed about 90 lbs, mid-30s. She asked me if I wanted to move to a back booth for $40 drinks. I went with her. First drink allowed tit sucking and fondling; second drink allowed pussy rubbing and fiv. Third drink DATY. Fourth drink BBBJ, taint, and BLS. Through all 4 drinks, had DFK and her sucking on my nipples and lite biting. She asked me if I wanted FS for $2. I told her no, she needed to lower her price because I already bought her a lot of drinks. She lowered to $1.5. She did CFS, ACG, Mish, RCG. I was having a hard time getting comfortable in the small booth, so she offered to help me by allowing BBFS as long as I finished outside (no CIP). Good BBFS, tight, and very wet with no odor. Very active under me until I came. Cleaned me up with her mouth and napkins.
On the way out, I spoke with Thuy. She told me that she had Nine other babies that needed to be taken care of and that I should try them out one at a time and tell her which was the best. Also, the next time I could use the back room, which is very private and can't be seen from the main bar. I gave Ly Na a $0.4 tip for the BBFS and Thuy a $0.2 tip for her offer. Total cost $3.5.
Ly Na L/A/S 6/8/9
Total cost $3.5.
Thanks for your detailed report. If I'm reading it correctly, it seems that the total expenditure was actually $410 rather than $350 (two $20 drinks, four $40 drinks, $150 payment, $60 in tips).
Thanks for your detailed report. If I'm reading it correctly, it seems that the total expenditure was actually $410 rather than $350 (two $20 drinks, four $40 drinks, $150 payment, $60 in tips).Don't think he was including the tip, cause most guys probably wouldn't have given it.
Not included in the arranged services.
Neko Hunta
05-23-08, 04:51
There are two very friendly, young, cute nite time bartenders there now.Fellow Bros,
What do you consider young and cute? IMHO young and cute would be someone in their 20's, like for example Yujin that "was" at Evergreen or Kay from D'Amours. We are talking about bartenders here. There are three night time bartenders at D'Amour's. Kay only works on Sundays after 8 by herself so I don't think she's included. June and Nami both work mostly Tues to Sat 7 to close. Both look like their in the late 30's, early 40's. One of them (not mentioning who) has a 14 yr old kid. If this was about a AMP, it would be posted in the "Mature Providers" thread! LOL! But I would have to agree on one aspect, they are very friendly.
No disrespect intended, you are just posting your opinion and I'm just posting my opinion for fellow K-bar bros. I wouldn't want to read some info and go to check the place out expecting young, cute bartenders and get older, kinda cute bartenders instead. Like I said earlier, this is my opinion, you can go see for yourselves. On another note, Monday nite at D'Amours get free KARAOKE til 12 for us singers, I gotta sing when I'm drunk, and there are 3-4 new girls in their mid to late 20's.
Lataz,
Neko
Decided to go out late last nite to TOFTT and went to Happiness Lounge. Upon entering I saw about 6 girls ranging from mid-20 to late-30 in age. A small spinner named Ly Na came and sat with me in a booth. I bought her (2) $20 drinks and had light conversation with her. Ly Na is about 4'-10", short hair, about 32A bust, weighed about 90 lbs, mid-30s. She asked me if I wanted to move to a back booth for $40 drinks. I went with her. First drink allowed tit sucking and fondling; second drink allowed pussy rubbing and fiv. Third drink DATY. Fourth drink BBBJ, taint, and BLS. Through all 4 drinks, had DFK and her sucking on my nipples and lite biting. She asked me if I wanted FS for $2. I told her no, she needed to lower her price because I already bought her a lot of drinks. She lowered to $1.5. She did CFS, ACG, Mish, RCG. I was having a hard time getting comfortable in the small booth, so she offered to help me by allowing BBFS as long as I finished outside (no CIP). Good BBFS, tight, and very wet with no odor. Very active under me until I came. Cleaned me up with her mouth and napkins.
On the way out, I spoke with Thuy. She told me that she had Nine other babies that needed to be taken care of and that I should try them out one at a time and tell her which was the best. Also, the next time I could use the back room, which is very private and can't be seen from the main bar. I gave Ly Na a $0.4 tip for the BBFS and Thuy a $0.2 tip for her offer. Total cost $3.5.
Ly Na L/A/S 6/8/9I yhink this is a rip off bar with be grade girls if there are any new girls they work anywhere from one day to two weeks and leave. Mama asks too much and pushes drinks every 5 minutes. Back room min $$$
CheapCharlie
05-25-08, 04:59
Stopped in last night after checking out Sky Lounge. Total of 4 girls working,didn't get their names. Ordered my drink,sat at the bar for awhile and left. Not worth going back.
I yhink this is a rip off bar with be grade girls if there are any new girls they work anywhere from one day to two weeks and leave. Mama asks too much and pushes drinks every 5 minutes. Back room min $$$
Nina is cutest viet I have ever sat witn IMHO. So cute that I lost my reasoning and bought lots of shots just to rub and be rubbed. She did however give a decent bbhj to he. Wouldn't go to backroom for less than $$$$$; she knows she's young (28) and cute. ymmv. Wouldn't repeat even tho she is the cutest. IMHO. Total;=$$+ (less than $$$=lost count) She said she had only been there for a week.
Fellow Bros,
What do you consider young and cute? IMHO young and cute would be someone in their 20's, like for example Yujin that "was" at Evergreen or Kay from D'Amours. We are talking about bartenders here. There are three night time bartenders at D'Amour's. Kay only works on Sundays after 8 by herself so I don't think she's included. June and Nami both work mostly Tues to Sat 7 to close. Both look like their in the late 30's, early 40's. One of them (not mentioning who) has a 14 yr old kid. If this was about a AMP, it would be posted in the "Mature Providers" thread! LOL! But I would have to agree on one aspect, they are very friendly.
No disrespect intended, you are just posting your opinion and I'm just posting my opinion for fellow K-bar bros. I wouldn't want to read some info and go to check the place out expecting young, cute bartenders and get older, kinda cute bartenders instead. Like I said earlier, this is my opinion, you can go see for yourselves. On another note, Monday nite at D'Amours get free KARAOKE til 12 for us singers, I gotta sing when I'm drunk, and there are 3-4 new girls in their mid to late 20's.
Lataz,
Neko
Yeah right. I keep forgetting that I'm an old fart and girls in their 30's are young IMHO. Nami and June are about 35 and I notice that they have their share of customers in their 60s and 70s. I don't see no wrinkles on them so they must be young LOL. Probably can't see the wrinkles because my eyesight so bad in the low light. LOL. See you on Monday singing drunk with girls my daughters age.
Nina is cutest viet I have ever sat witn IMHO. So cute that I lost my reasoning and bought lots of shots just to rub and be rubbed. She did however give a decent bbhj to he. Wouldn't go to backroom for less than $$$$$; she knows she's young (28) and cute. ymmv. Wouldn't repeat even tho she is the cutest. IMHO. Total;=$$+ (less than $$$=lost count) She said she had only been there for a week.She's been there for awhile!
Anyone ever try hitting on the mama at new saigon nites? she is hot! Pretty young to. The place gets a little busy on Fridays and Saturdays late in the nite.
More To Love
06-01-08, 19:10
Lately, I haven't seen any action posted for the Kapiolani Bars. Are all the VBs like Romantei, SL and Charm dead nowadays. Please post anything worth reading.
Happy hunting,
MTL
Nina is cutest viet I have ever sat witn IMHO. So cute that I lost my reasoning and bought lots of shots just to rub and be rubbed. She did however give a decent bbhj to he. Wouldn't go to backroom for less than $$$$$; she knows she's young (28) and cute. ymmv. Wouldn't repeat even tho she is the cutest. IMHO. Total;=$$+ (less than $$$=lost count) She said she had only been there for a week.Nina is cute for sure. Went to Happiness maybe a month ago and bought her a few drinks. Saw her boobs and that was about it. She got my phone number and has been calling every other day telling me how much she loves me, lmao!
Night Colors
06-12-08, 03:53
A pict. from Maui of pimp/Ho night.
Peckerwood
06-15-08, 20:41
Went by lastnight, Nina is by far the best looking one there but seems kinda iffy on the action. Nikki and another girl were the busiest there but not my style I guess.
Take it easy, PW
A pict. from Maui of pimp/Ho night.Is that Michelle from Glamour on the far left?
Went by yesterday evening and soon as I put my money on the bar for my beer Vicky was all over me asking for a drink. She is a sure bet for action but they need new girls in all the bars in the Kapiolani area. It just gets boring after a while of seeing and banging the same ones. After a while the service just get crappier because they know most of us will still pay!!! Another thing I noticed, which was mentioned a while back is the .4 drinks!!! Best bet is dont start a tab and bring only what you plan on spending with you!! I got a girl last night a Moonflower to go to the back for only $ and it was actually good. Forget her name but I'm gonna stop by tomorrow again and see if I cant catch another one. Normally K girls are harder to get than V girls, I was surprised.
FYI most of the girls there are from Guam. The k girls from Guam are all ****** and mostly have worked in the AMPs there. That is why they are easy. They try to hold da line here and make money but they are still ******.
Thumperforq
06-16-08, 15:05
Is that Michelle from Glamour on the far left?
That's Michelle.
That's Michelle.
Look's like she has put on some weight since the last time I saw her.
Does anyone go to that Bar across from the Cheveron gas station on Keeamoku st? There was plenty play there, from Michelle who now works at Oriental massage.
I got a HJ from one of the girls there the one with the short hair.
Does anyone go to that Bar across from the Cheveron gas station on Keeamoku st? There was plenty play there, from Michelle who now works at Oriental massage.
I got a HJ from one of the girls there the one with the short hair.I went there once and never again had one ice freak and two other old farts one at least 55 and other missing teeth and told me see got out of prison due to parloe due to ICE and it stinked and to ice machine they buy ice from for next door not water in bathrooms.
Peckerwood
06-17-08, 10:57
Does anyone go to that Bar across from the Cheveron gas station on Keeamoku st? There was plenty play there, from Michelle who now works at Oriental massage.
I got a HJ from one of the girls there the one with the short hair.
Isn't that leilani lounge? I've been there before, that place is pretty run down. Didn't really have any girls when I went there.
PW
Strong Mojo
06-17-08, 11:37
Jus.
Can you provide some additional information on Michelle from Oriental Massage? Where it's located. Her looks and stuff.
Thanks.
SM.
Does anyone go to that Bar across from the Cheveron gas station on Keeamoku st?
Unless the name of that bar at 1219 Keeaumoku Street has recently changed, it's currently Leilani Lounge (not "Club Autumn Moon"). The last three times I visited, I walked through the bar and then out the door, because none of the few bargirls who were there met even my admittedly low standards. :(
Unless the name of that bar at 1219 Keeaumoku Street has recently changed, it's currently Leilani Lounge (not "Club Autumn Moon"). The last three times I visited, I walked through the bar and then out the door, because none of the few bargirls who were there met even my admittedly low standards. :(And it stinked no water in bathroon and no ice machine older lady had bo.
Thumperforq
06-19-08, 18:29
Went by lastnight, Nina is by far the best looking one there but seems kinda iffy on the action. Nikki and another girl were the busiest there but not my style I guess.
Take it easy, PW
I've had CFS with Nina. She gets very wet, but is not tight. The whole time I was in her she was asking me to either hurry up and finish or buy her another bottle of champagne.
L8 A6 S5
Night Colors
06-20-08, 02:05
And it stinked no water in bathroon and no ice machine older lady had bo.
The place is trashed, even the Ms Pac Man machine had corrupted programming. I assume the ancient condom machine in the bathroom still works but looking around the place, I didn't care to find out.
I've had CFS with Nina. She gets very wet, but is not tight. The whole time I was in her she was asking me to either hurry up and finish or buy her another bottle of champagne.
L8 A6 S5
What was the damage?
... Oriental Massage? Where it's located.
It's located on the second floor of 1507 South King Street, in #205 of the A.Y. Wong Building (above Crystal Healing Massage).
Thumperforq
06-23-08, 23:41
What was the damage?
$5 for the champagne.
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