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I see the term a lot with regards to BBFS / CIP. Is that just the price tag for extras?It's exactly what it is bud, MSRP=manufacturers suggested retail price. Like buying a car you can attempt to negotiate a lower price, but it's all YMMV. If you have good looks, good charms and good vibes you can get away with freebies or way below suggested price. If the gods aren't in your favor then it's YMMV.
Genghis Dong
11-01-23, 00:28
I would say the pretty Yuki pics are her but she is slightly cuter. Very nice meaty ass on her. Good shape. She looked so innocent. 100/200. She took the D.
P.S. FULL Bush.
Go easy on Manami haha. I may be interested in seeing her myself.
On a related note, I tried to see PPC Yiwa last weekend but was denied. PPS told me she can't take a big one but still let me get a look and try to persuade her otherwise. I went into the room with her, made my pitch and showed her my cock. She told me that my flaccid penis was the same size as an erect Chinese penis LOL. I remembered reading your review of her so I was thinking: "WTF is the problem? This girl has already taken some big ones" hehe. Seems you put quite the scare into her! It was her first day back at PPC and when she saw my dick she must have been having flashbacks of your visit LOL. Tall Papa even tried to put in a good word for me, but to no avail. So that's one hairy crab I won't be munching on. Thanks GD!LOL if I had a nickel for every time I was told my flaccid dick is as big as a fully erect Chinese / japanese.
Yeah, it was her first day. That is one reason I try to get in there early before they know any better. Dude, I could swear she used olive oil for lube.
The j girls #1 selling point is that they are the youngest (legal). Schoolgirl fetish is probably the biggest fetish as far as clothing goes.
I don't want some ****, okay? I want a nice girl in college with her head on straight. And yes, maybe hair in coffee is indicative of a drinking problem but this is the best drinking problem to have. She has that picture of her dressed up to work at the office. Maybe she has an internship.
Now, excuse me while I prepare to defile her.
P.S. Seriously, I would take these pics over them in bra and panties any day.Definitely something not right with the photos. Her left hand with the purse is weird. Her left hand with the cup cannot possibly hold a large cup in that position.
Yukiko R8 https://risingsun8.com/view/289 - tits still big, she was tall I think 5'7.
Rita R8 https://risingsun8.com/view/231 - heard raw possible but may just be a false rumor.
Kaneme XO https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/439 - don't love the name, rhymes with another word.
Manami SL probably on injured reserved as GD may have seen her.
I'd still go for Jenny and Tiffany for now as priority Omakase. Meg if shaved.
Genghis Dong
11-01-23, 11:03
Yukiko R8 https://risingsun8.com/view/289 - tits still big, she was tall I think 5'7.
Rita R8 https://risingsun8.com/view/231 - heard raw possible but may just be a false rumor.
Kaneme XO https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/439 - don't love the name, rhymes with another word.
Manami SL probably on injured reserved as GD may have seen her.
I'd still go for Jenny and Tiffany for now as priority Omakase. Meg if shaved.She is on the twitter schedule today.
Definitely something not right with the photos. Her left hand with the purse is weird. Her left hand with the cup cannot possibly hold a large cup in that position.Her hand looks pretty similar IRL from what I recall.
Definitely something not right with the photos. Her left hand with the purse is weird. Her left hand with the cup cannot possibly hold a large cup in that position.There's an app called AI Photo Editor that will do a series of 'senior pictures' like that. It's a social media meme right now. That's almost certainly how she generated those pictures.
Well big tits are the main draw and CIP was just $100 so maybe some of you guys can get it down even lower. Massive melons, lots of Russian including in the shower right away when she lowered herself and basically washed my cock between her soap tits. When I was on the bed, she sucked my dick then gave me more Russian and kissed my cock while my dick was stroked by her tits also. Pussy not terribly tight for me but maybe it's the lube or my dick is just not big enough. I pulled out to wiped my cock down to have less lube and went back in to fill her pussy up!
Overall, cheap CIP and big tits are the best thing.
ThreeDeeIsMe
11-01-23, 16:39
Nice bunny style; seems like she's ready for some rabbit bang against turtle shell (yes puns intended) LOL;.
$230/30 Mins.
$280/45 Mins.
$340/60 Mins.I've seen there's usually an upcharge for CIP but do these prices include BBFS or is that going to be an upcharge too?
Sorry for the noob question. I'm new to the city and have been hobbying in Dallas prior to this. Still working on getting verified at XOXO.
DrunkenKid
11-01-23, 16:42
Happy 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/439.
Who wants to get happy?One of the senior reviews over at that other AMP Review site just ejected from a session with Happy. No touching of pussy, no kissing, no service and bad attitude given as reasons. He even referred to her as a Baka LOL.
DrunkenKid
11-01-23, 16:46
Meg if shaved.Meg pushed back her departure time from 11/3 to 11/10, so there maybe some time to get her to shave.
VidLover69
11-01-23, 17:04
Manami SL probably on injured reserved as GD may have seen her.
I'd still go for Jenny and Tiffany for now as priority Omakase. Meg if shaved.Manami def has ptsd if GD gave her the D. Pussy tightness is probably down at least 50%.
Today is tiffany's last day at 1010. Where is she going?
Jenny is a hard no on video. Like WTF, she's a JAV, right?
Manami def has ptsd if GD gave her the D. Pussy tightness is probably down at least 50%.
Today is tiffany's last day at 1010. Where is she going?
Jenny is a hard no on video. Like WTF, she's a JAV, right?When I saw Ayase Kokoro (3), she told me that some JAV girls are owned by certain studios, as in cannot film with any other entity or person. I offered her way more than the norm too.
DrunkenKid
11-01-23, 17:44
Today is tiffany's last day at 1010. Where is she going?
Weird. That was quick. I wonder if the agents are telling the girl to keep moving around? Mio PPC had like 4 day as well and this new Momo girl https://10tenclub.com/view/441 is only here until 11/5.
Genghis Dong
11-01-23, 17:54
Weird. That was quick. I wonder if the agents are telling the girl to keep moving around? Mio PPC had like 4 day as well and this new Momo girl https://10tenclub.com/view/441 is only here until 11/5.They don't get "enough" business they move. IDK in a way it seems we are oversaturated with J girls. I also think we were getting better ones a year ago.
I've seen there's usually an upcharge for CIP but do these prices include BBFS or is that going to be an upcharge too?
Sorry for the noob question. I'm new to the city and have been hobbying in Dallas prior to this. Still working on getting verified at XOXO.BBFS is an additional charge and CIP standard ask for J girls is $200.
Some Name Huh
11-01-23, 18:52
Hey fellas visiting for just 2 nights. How do you get into that places like 1010 and Shangri la without giving your driver license linked in Id, etc? Any tips greatly appreciated!
StinkyFeet
11-01-23, 20:39
Hey fellas visiting for just 2 nights. How do you get into that places like 1010 and Shangri la without giving your driver license linked in Id, etc? Any tips greatly appreciated!No way around it.
StinkyFeet
11-01-23, 20:49
Manami def has ptsd if GD gave her the D. Pussy tightness is probably down at least 50%.
Today is tiffany's last day at 1010. Where is she going?
Jenny is a hard no on video. Like WTF, she's a JAV, right?Minami / asuka had her when she was napping at 9 pm a week ago at Prettyyucki spa. Very cute nice youthful gnd. Slim, nice ass, Bush is more like a soft fuzz which in no ways hinder daty. Maybe she was in a bad mood but had a lot of rules regarding daty like no fiv.
Honestly tall Yoko really ruined me now. All the amp girls don't do it for me anymore.
VidLover69
11-01-23, 21:56
When I saw Ayase Kokoro (3), she told me that some JAV girls are owned by certain studios, as in cannot film with any other entity or person. I offered her way more than the norm too.Seems like a reason NOT to see JAV girls BTW, ayumi at PP is also a 'no'. The current crop of jgirls aren't working out for me. The summer jgirl were much more amendable.
Hey fellas visiting for just 2 nights. How do you get into that places like 1010 and Shangri la without giving your driver license linked in Id, etc? Any tips greatly appreciated!Travel back in time 5 years before the stricter screening went into effect.
Weird. That was quick. I wonder if the agents are telling the girl to keep moving around? Mio PPC had like 4 day as well and this new Momo girl https://10tenclub.com/view/441 is only here until 11/5.Moving around so much is BAD for business especially with the name changes.
DrunkenKid
11-01-23, 23:16
They don't get "enough" business they move. IDK in a way it seems we are oversaturated with J girls. I also think we were getting better ones a year ago.I think they are getting bad advice. The new girls won't be able to establish themselves if they don't get good word of mouth, reviews, and buzz going. IMHO, they need to stay at one place for at least a week to establish themselves. Good service and good reviews will get them the 10+ bangs a day that they are looking for. Rebranding or relocating in the attempt to get new customers is just repeating the same mistake.
Manami def has ptsd if GD gave her the D. Pussy tightness is probably down at least 50%.
Today is tiffany's last day at 1010. Where is she going?
Jenny is a hard no on video. Like WTF, she's a JAV, right?I banged her. Apparently PrettyYuki is getting some decent J-girls after all haha. She does match the yuki pics. Pussy tightness did feel a bit down but I enjoyed her. Probably took some BBCs at Yuki plus GD in Manhattan LOL. Will leave a review later.
BTW they finally finished those shower renovations at SL. They have 3 of them now. Looks pretty nice.
When I saw Ayase Kokoro (3), she told me that some JAV girls are owned by certain studios, as in cannot film with any other entity or person. I offered her way more than the norm too.She was so hot! Still mad I only got to fuck her once! That LoverPink888 place was great too.
They don't get "enough" business they move. IDK in a way it seems we are oversaturated with J girls. I also think we were getting better ones a year ago.We are definitely oversaturated, I think they're looking for some alternatives to NY these days. Supposedly there's an influx of J-girls in CA lately. Boston, Seattle, Chicago and DC are popular stops as well.
I'm not sure whether quality has truly gone down or if some NYC mongers have just gotten used to bare sex with hot young Japanese girls LOL. Maybe both things can be true at the same time. I do think we had more quality girls in fall 2022 through spring 2023, but I also started mongering in fall 2022, so I don't really trust my own judgment on this. I do recall that prices were higher in Manhattan during 2022. There were many girls going for $400 H, occasionally $420 H and $450 H. Not sure if that's because quality was better or economy just wasn't as shitty as it is now.
Weird. That was quick. I wonder if the agents are telling the girl to keep moving around? Mio PPC had like 4 day as well and this new Momo girl https://10tenclub.com/view/441 is only here until 11/5.Pretty sure Momo is PPC Yuria: Look at the second pic on 10 TC website. The shots with the white dress. https://www.pleasure-palace.club/yuria. The 10TC website says she is an international student that speaks English, which seems to be a match for Yuria.
God damn fake pics in Manhattan being used to confuse us!
DrunkenKid
11-02-23, 00:05
Pretty sure Momo is PPC Yuria: Look at the second pic on 10 TC website. The shots with the white dress. https://www.pleasure-palace.club/yuria.Good eye as always. I was like who is this noobie student that wants $400/ hr!? WTFBBQ!
When I saw Ayase Kokoro (3), she told me that some JAV girls are owned by certain studios, as in cannot film with any other entity or person. I offered her way more than the norm too.Those are the girls that are generally the stars though. It's like Jenna Jameson was with VIVID. They get paid more than other girls and only shoot once a month or so.
Most of these JAV girls working in the US did a handful of porn movies to increase their escort rates in Japan. According to her Wikipedia. Jp page it does look like Ayase Kokoro was briefly a 'contract girl' so it's certainly possible that she couldn't film with anyone else while she was providing.
Miro DDY http://dreamdreamyou.com/index.php/about-the-model/?smid=1978 - the only real new?
All other are moved or recyclables.
Demi now Noa https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/602 - cheaper, boob just just as big.
Rina SE is back https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/601 - new pics.
Momo 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/441 - yes Yuria.
Aoi is back XOXO https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/441.
Suya xoxo https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/440 - forgot her name. Almost return trip.
We are definitely oversaturated, I think they're looking for some alternatives to NY these days. Supposedly there's an influx of J-girls in CA lately. Boston, Seattle, Chicago and DC are popular stops as well.
I'm not sure whether quality has truly gone down or if some NYC mongers have just gotten used to bare sex with hot young Japanese girls LOL. Maybe both things can be true at the same time. I do think we had more quality girls in fall 2022 through spring 2023, but I also started mongering in fall 2022, so I don't really trust my own judgment on this. I do recall that prices were higher in Manhattan during 2022. There were many girls going for $400 H, occasionally $420 H and $450 H. Not sure if that's because quality was better or economy just wasn't as shitty as it is now.I have noticed something that I'm not sure you guys see it. Maybe it's because I'm on hibernation mode but I still lurk, but I have been seeing a huge increase in shills and simps (across all review boards) pushing girls 200 MSRP "firm" or even paying it on multiple occasions. This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps. During those times of $400+ you were more likely to receive freebies and they gain repeat customers at $400+ or upcharge was much cheaper. Now the base rate is lower and upcharge is higher / firm with a higher chance of one and done.
To all you shills / simps that are reading, you're only ruining the girls businesses and causing them to move elsewhere where they can find more business. I can guarantee that whichever girl offers $100/ flexi they will be booming in business. That's my 2 cents.
Manami def has ptsd if GD gave her the D. Pussy tightness is probably down at least 50%.
Today is tiffany's last day at 1010. Where is she going?
Jenny is a hard no on video. Like WTF, she's a JAV, right?Tiffany was in Dc for a while so not there.
Jenny video was about 4 years ago. She has since changed her face and body so could just be not wanting to get videoed again.
I can only recognize her from the tattoo.
I suspect this is why Yuki Etsuko was so popular too on top of her good looks.
I did read on ThER that she was getting $200 but seems to be much later in the tour.
Meaning she was also doing some low bb to some
I have noticed something that I'm not sure you guys see it. Maybe it's because I'm on hibernation mode but I still lurk, but I have been seeing a huge increase in shills and simps (across all review boards) pushing girls 200 MSRP "firm" or even paying it on multiple occasions. This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps. During those times of $400+ you were more likely to receive freebies and they gain repeat customers at $400+ or upcharge was much cheaper. Now the base rate is lower and upcharge is higher / firm with a higher chance of one and done.
To all you shills / simps that are reading, you're only ruining the girls businesses and causing them to move elsewhere where they can find more business. I can guarantee that whichever girl offers $100/ flexi they will be booming in business. That's my 2 cents.
I suspect this is why Yuki Etsuko was so popular too on top of her good looks.
I did read on ThER that she was getting $200 but seems to be much later in the tour.
Meaning she was also doing some low bb to someRaising her price towards the end of the tour makes sense because she already has a web of customers. She knows she's almost done so she's ok with them not returning if she got them to return previously 5+ times. This is a business and economics game after all, it's the shills and the simps that are ruining for the girls not us mongers. We lose nothing as we still keep our cash, the girls though they lose cash for being firm / paying shills and simps and not getting business.
That's probably how yume ppc stayed in the game, she knew she couldn't compete with the younger girls, so she went freebie route to maintain repeats.
Raising her price towards the end of the tour makes sense because she already has a web of customers. She knows she's almost done so she's ok with them not returning if she got them to return previously 5+ times. This is a business and economics game after all, it's the shills and the simps that are ruining for the girls not us mongers. We lose nothing as we still keep our cash, the girls though they lose cash for being firm / paying shills and simps and not getting business.
That's probably how yume ppc stayed in the game, she knew she couldn't compete with the younger girls, so she went freebie route to maintain repeats.This is a business but I don't like girls that make it a business with me LOL.
I visited a regular yesterday and from start to finish happy to see me and thank me for visiting blah blah blah.
As opposed to another regular the other day who noted I do not pay for CIP. I will be passing her when she is up in the rotation.
There are too many girls available to stay with a girl that does not give you their A game without bs.
That's probably how yume ppc stayed in the game, she knew she couldn't compete with the younger girls, so she went freebie route to maintain repeats.From a year ago, there are many more C girls opening up their BBFS game to stay competitive with the younger C girls and J girls.
As JavLuvr puts it, why go to aunties when you can have younger, prettier J girls that have not been fucked by half of Manhattan LOL.
GFE service can be hit or miss with the younger set but the over the top fake GFE from veteran C girls is not very appealing either.
Genghis Dong
11-02-23, 10:47
I banged her. Apparently PrettyYuki is getting some decent J-girls after all haha. She does match the yuki pics. Pussy tightness did feel a bit down but I enjoyed her. Probably took some BBCs at Yuki plus GD in Manhattan LOL. Will leave a review later.
BTW they finally finished those shower renovations at SL. They have 3 of them now. Looks pretty nice.
She was so hot! Still mad I only got to fuck her once! That LoverPink888 place was great too.
We are definitely oversaturated, I think they're looking for some alternatives to NY these days. Supposedly there's an influx of J-girls in CA lately. Boston, Seattle, Chicago and DC are popular stops as well.I saw Yuria at WSD. She is the only japanese girl to ask me for a tip. She was not really my type but attractive.
Manami was fucking tight. I can't say what she did before me but damn that girl had the wide eyed I can' escape from this dick look on her. It was pretty good.
Checking out K girl Lorina today there. . .
I think they are getting bad advice. The new girls won't be able to establish themselves if they don't get good word of mouth, reviews, and buzz going. IMHO, they need to stay at one place for at least a week to establish themselves. Good service and good reviews will get them the 10+ bangs a day that they are looking for. Rebranding or relocating in the attempt to get new customers is just repeating the same mistake.The Chinese girls are the worst. Most of them quit after one day if they don't get a ton of clients first day. I don't even get a chance to look at half of them at DDY / Sl before they are gone.
For J girls. We have so many J places now. The average 1st day clients has to be down but also they have so many more options of where to jump to now.
Genghis Dong
11-02-23, 10:50
Hey fellas visiting for just 2 nights. How do you get into that places like 1010 and Shangri la without giving your driver license linked in Id, etc? Any tips greatly appreciated!I would text them and work with them. Sometimes they do video chats. Or know a trusted customer really well for a long time.
WellHung123
11-02-23, 10:52
Given the ton of Asian BBFS discussions, here's a change of pace. I have a girl from SA I met, been seeing her on and off for a couple years in Jersey. She will be in the Bronx visiting a friend this weekend and wanted to get gangbanged possibly Saturday night. I've double teamed her with another NJ senior member on a few occasions and have posted about this GB in the NJ area too.
She's 21, latina, very small like 4'10", super pettite, no fat, nice body.
Unlimited MSOG, BBFS and CIP for 3 hours. She wants about 400 per guy (375 to her and 25 for the hotel room). Open to trying greek CIA and DPs though she is very tiny, I was only able to DP her pussy once before. Toys, handcuffs, blindfolds, rough play, face fucking etc fine as well.
Preferably senior members and also well hung, as she wants to get stuffed. PM me and I can share pics. And I would prefer to do a quick call with you, just to make sure you're chill.
WellHung123
11-02-23, 10:53
Given the ton of Asian BBFS discussions, here's a change of pace. I have a girl from SA I met, been seeing her on and off for a couple years in Jersey. She will be in the Bronx visiting a friend this weekend and wanted to get gangbanged possibly Saturday night. I've double teamed her with another NJ senior member on a few occasions and have posted about this GB in the NJ area too.
She's 21, latina, very small like 4'10", super pettite, no fat, nice body.
Unlimited MSOG, BBFS and CIP for 3 hours. She wants about 400 per guy (375 to her and 25 for the hotel room). Open to trying greek CIA and DPs though she is very tiny, I was only able to DP her pussy once before. Toys, handcuffs, blindfolds, rough play, face fucking etc fine as well.
Preferably senior members and also well hung, as she wants to get stuffed. PM me and I can share pics. And I would prefer to do a quick call with you, just to make sure you're chill.Looking for maybe 3 or 4 senior members to join me.
This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps.I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.
To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.
I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.
https://10tenclub.com/view/442
Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.
Damn, so interesting. Reading this economic theory has me reflecting on my past experiences, and it's reeling me back to the reality of things. So wild. Thanks for your insight.
Does anyone know the general split a girl takes from an hour rate?
I have noticed something that I'm not sure you guys see it. Maybe it's because I'm on hibernation mode but I still lurk, but I have been seeing a huge increase in shills and simps (across all review boards) pushing girls 200 MSRP "firm" or even paying it on multiple occasions. This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps. During those times of $400+ you were more likely to receive freebies and they gain repeat customers at $400+ or upcharge was much cheaper. Now the base rate is lower and upcharge is higher / firm with a higher chance of one and done.
To all you shills / simps that are reading, you're only ruining the girls businesses and causing them to move elsewhere where they can find more business. I can guarantee that whichever girl offers $100/ flexi they will be booming in business. That's my 2 cents.
https://10tenclub.com/view/442
Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.I was going to say new fresh meat!
Looks new to me.
CreaminThePie
11-02-23, 12:05
https://10tenclub.com/view/442
Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.https://www.pleasure-palace.club/misatorurika
Looks like she was here in July at PPC and advertised as a JAV.
4 New ones?
Rurika 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/442 - looks nice, someone asked if new, I am not certain but don't recall these pics.
Suyen NJ https://myluxeescape.com/content/ - real pics?
Suzu PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/suzuchan - tiny spinner with flat everything is back. Some of you like this, not my type.
Oto PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/otomizuhara - looks good.
Miro DDY http://dreamdreamyou.com/index.php/about-the-model/?smid=1978 - the only real new?
All other are moved or recyclables.
Demi now Noa https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/602 - cheaper, boob just just as big.
Rina SE is back https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/601 - new pics.
Momo 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/441 - yes Yuria.
Aoi is back XOXO https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/441.
Suya xoxo https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/440 - forgot her name. Almost return trip.
Raising her price towards the end of the tour makes sense because she already has a web of customers. She knows she's almost done so she's ok with them not returning if she got them to return previously 5+ times. This is a business and economics game after all, it's the shills and the simps that are ruining for the girls not us mongers. We lose nothing as we still keep our cash, the girls though they lose cash for being firm / paying shills and simps and not getting business.
That's probably how yume ppc stayed in the game, she knew she couldn't compete with the younger girls, so she went freebie route to maintain repeats.100% on Yume. A lot of returns because it's a simple economics. If I can save $200 on some hot girl, I'd go back because I'm getting a great return.
Yuki was very fucking smart but I had to cut it while it was good before she asks for MSRP. She never did but I'd like to go out on top... or from behind when it's still good.
I think the number of mongers has gone down while the volume of girls has gone up.
Supply and Demand are already out of wack. And I do see some evidence of price changes.
Demi was $260/500 a PPC and is now much cheaper at Smilingeyes.
I do see more $230 price range girls. Not going to change or make them cheap enough if mongers are fucking poorer due to inflation or out of the job though.
There will always be exceptions but I think the norm price seems to be lowering a little bit.
I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.
Some girl know the value of repeat and getting $100 CIP and repeats is better for the overall bottom line. Some would do it even lower since multiple visits would yield more $ in the end.
I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.
To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.
I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.
This is a business but I don't like girls that make it a business with me LOL.
I visited a regular yesterday and from start to finish happy to see me and thank me for visiting blah blah blah.
As opposed to another regular the other day who noted I do not pay for CIP. I will be passing her when she is up in the rotation.
There are too many girls available to stay with a girl that does not give you their A game without bs.It's still a business if you're not fucking them for 100% free and 100% $0. Don't forget that brah. No CIP $ is still business. Just more discounts for you.
CreaminThePie
11-02-23, 13:13
https://www.prettyyukinyc.com/view/439
New girl at pretty yuki FH. Chance to fuck her for cheap before she potentially shows up in NYC LOL.
She was in CA for a week or two at 200/400 hr.
https://mimi16888.com/view/224
https://www.miyahouse.com/copy-of-in-house-4
It's still a business if you're not fucking them for 100% free and 100% $0. Don't forget that brah. No CIP $ is still business. Just more discounts for you.Absolutely. As long as you visit, they get cash and they win.
Yuki was very fucking smart but I had to cut it while it was good before she asks for MSRP. She never did but I'd like to go out on top... or from behind when it's still good.Go out on top? Not exactly. She is still laughing all the way to the bank LOL.
I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.Assuming you want the $200 CIP, it is $430 for the half and $560 for the hour.
Assuming you can pop number 2, that is still an extra $130 you need to pay.
Some folks may not want to pay the $130. No need to throw more money than needed at that pussy.
I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.
To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.
I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.But you said it yourself "to compete with the other girls", the shills and simps are feeding these thoughts to them hoping that they can match that offer here in NYC. The be competitive they need to be flexible or lower their prices because once mongers hear "blah blah is flexible or giving $100" they will flock to her causing a surge in high demand. It's a supply and demand business, over saturated like some are saying mongers are now looking at reviews and perks on to see. If someone offers better upcharge, than of course they will go see that provider. It's the same for videos and videophiles, I bet if the upcharge price is $100 or less you will see many video mongers. I've heard from multiple provider sources that the girls that are known to be $100 or less are seeing 8-10++ guys a day where as the girls offering $200 firm are only seeing 4-6 a day.
Can't be comparing City to City because much like economics the cost of living is different in each city so the income will be higher or lower. It's really about people feeding the girls false hope and dreams that every monger will pay the same which is 7/10 not the case.
Go out on top? Not exactly. She is still laughing all the way to the bank LOL.Not sure if you understood what I meant. Go out on top as is not have to pay MSRP.
I don't care if she makes money. That's her job. Good for her.
I do think CIP MSRP is still around because girls getting a bit lower cut on the regular session price so they hope to get it back on the CIP MSRP. They're just fucking retarded because why would anyone want to pay $200 for CIP if half is $230. CIP $200 for full hour $360 is also expersive but why the fuck would anyone pay $200 for half hour CIP? Like. It's 1 shot vs 2 shots.
Some girl know the value of repeat and getting $100 CIP and repeats is better for the overall bottom line. Some would do it even lower since multiple visits would yield more $ in the end.Exactly, that's why I was saying it's the shills and simps that are brainwashing the girls. They're probably feeding them stuff like "I'm VIP and write a lot of reviews, you shouldn't lower prices but if you give me $20-40 discount I'll help you out" or however they work I have no idea. My success rate of seeing a girl on day 1 is 90% vs day 3+ which is a 50/50 coin flip. And it could also be the long standing girls who say "don't budge from 100/200" because they are flexible themselves UTR to get that business from the new girls. If it was up to me, if my sources don't tell me a girl is flexi and it's day 3++ I won't visit the girl. I would rather coin flip day 1-2 than to coin flip days 3+, statistics show most people aren't willing to TOFTT on new girls, the ones that do are either 1. Credible mongers or 2. Shills aka you have your coin flip.
Disclaimer: I have no real intel, but this is me projecting business trends as I am a business owner of 4 businesses. This is just what I'm seeing and it's the same as any business, stay competitive to stay relevant that's all it is.
DrunkenKid
11-02-23, 17:26
Does anyone know the general split a girl takes from an hour rate?I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.
The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.
I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.
The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.Good enough data.
Disclaimer: I have no real intel, but this is me projecting business trends as I am a business owner of 4 businesses. This is just what I'm seeing and it's the same as any business, stay competitive to stay relevant that's all it is.Yes. People who can actually do some analysis are the winners in this MSRP game.
I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.
The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.It varies between stores and agents. I think in Manhattan the store takes at most 50% of the total fee. I've had two situations where the house fee was (I think) waived in its entirety. Once was at 10 TC and it was $100 house fee out of a $300 HH base price. Another time was at Nurugirls, house fee there was $120 out of $320 H base price. Obviously if the girl is Japanese, there's the agent as well, who takes another 10%. This is why extra tips are so important to J-girls, they kinda get a raw deal on the base price split compared to C-girls. Although some may be smart / popular enough to try and negotiate a more favorable arrangement.
In Flushing it's more like a 60/40 split with the house taking at least 60%. I think when you buy an overpriced Flushing C-girl for $500 H she only keeps maybe $200-$240. Part of the reason the damn prices are so high is that Chinese operators take a hefty house fee. CA has K-orgs where you can fuck comparable girls for like 300 H with BB included. The main reason for the lower rates is the house doesn't take a huge cut. They also don't have as much overhead and have fewer peeps on the payroll. Some of these popular places in Flushing / LA are operating out of upscale single family homes and sometimes even a mansion. They got bills to pay!
DrunkenKid
11-02-23, 17:51
would rather coin flip day 1-2 than to coin flip days 3+, statistics show most people aren't willing to TOFTT on new girls, the ones that do are either 1. Credible mongers or 2. Shills aka you have your coin flip.
Ah, this explains why we can't seem to get you off your ass to see popular girls. For me, I understand why many want to get in the room first because the girls are maybe more flexible on negotiations. But for me, I like to wait a week first to make sure the girl is "proven". My success rate is 90% on 7+ days. I go in there like a hurricane and the girls probably think I am insane (I speak 100 miles a minute) but they realize that they want to see me again so they work with me. I also skip girls when initial reports are free BBFS. I actually get a high off the negotiations.
Yes. People who can actually do some analysis are the winners in this MSRP game.Yup and knowing how to read in between the lines of reviews so you know who to avoid.
Ah, this explains why we can't seem to get you off your ass to see popular girls. For me, I understand why many want to get in the room first because the girls are maybe more flexible on negotiations. But for me, I like to wait a week first to make sure the girl is "proven". My success rate is 90% on 7+ days. I go in there like a hurricane and the girls probably think I am insane (I speak 100 miles a minute) but they realize that they want to see me again so they work with me. I also skip girls when initial reports are free BBFS. I actually get a high off the negotiations.Public reports of free BBFS are shills trying to get people through the door unless proven (Yume). That's also why I avoid popular girls because the hype is driving them (more shills / simps) I've had much better luck avoiding those girls and going based off of what I like and if it's day 1-2, that formula has worked well for me so don't fix what's not broken. But it's not like I'm sleeping completely, there are UTR girls that I'm seeing that still give me freebies who normally don't publicly offer them.
Yup and knowing how to read in between the lines of reviews so you know who to avoid.
Public reports of free BBFS are shills trying to get people through the doorIf it's reported as FREE, there is no challenge and boring and low interest. Unless she's hot then I'll go still
Ah, this explains why we can't seem to get you off your ass to see popular girls. For me, I understand why many want to get in the room first because the girls are maybe more flexible on negotiations. But for me, I like to wait a week first to make sure the girl is "proven". My success rate is 90% on 7+ days. I go in there like a hurricane and the girls probably think I am insane (I speak 100 miles a minute) but they realize that they want to see me again so they work with me. I also skip girls when initial reports are free BBFS. I actually get a high off the negotiations.Same. LOL.
IronClad999
11-02-23, 21:07
https://www.pleasure-palace.club/misatorurika
Looks like she was here in July at PPC and advertised as a JAV.Just saw her multiple times today; will post follow ups.
IronClad999
11-02-23, 21:08
https://10tenclub.com/view/442
Does anyone recognize? She looks familiar.She's not bad; will post the feedbacks asap.
Laura PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/laura ass looks good.
She's not bad; will post the feedbacks asap.
Just saw her multiple times today; will post follow ups.So you're saying they are the same girl?
Rurika https://10tenclub.com/view/442
https://www.pleasure-palace.club/misatorurika
I do see some resemblance but I would not if you didn't say they were the same girl
edit: god damn you write too much wall of text. can't read all that much!
IronClad999
11-02-23, 21:12
I have noticed something that I'm not sure you guys see it. Maybe it's because I'm on hibernation mode but I still lurk, but I have been seeing a huge increase in shills and simps (across all review boards) pushing girls 200 MSRP "firm" or even paying it on multiple occasions. This does make it harder for mongers (especially the lurkers) who cannot afford to pay the MSRP so they are shopping elsewhere, which in economic theory means less business for those girls who have shills / simps. During those times of $400+ you were more likely to receive freebies and they gain repeat customers at $400+ or upcharge was much cheaper. Now the base rate is lower and upcharge is higher / firm with a higher chance of one and done.
To all you shills / simps that are reading, you're only ruining the girls businesses and causing them to move elsewhere where they can find more business. I can guarantee that whichever girl offers $100/ flexi they will be booming in business. That's my 2 cents.Yup, in full concurrence with you my homie:
TL; DR (yes its long, bear with it or tear up the greenies LOL);.
After checking out miona same day, mariko was lonely from early noon til dinner time so I decided to test her waters based on the popular reps she's gained. Curtailed synopsis:
-the new pics with her in black bunny ears are 90-95% her in terms of accuracy. She's a lot more slimmer / skinnier in person and has a rabbit voice (naughty flirty pussycat tone; I can see why most iron boys are infatuated with her LOL). Natural soft B-C's but not saggy nor firm (medium rare with plenty of milks for nourish game). Fully shaven kitty about 68-70% tight (I was expecting premium pussy since she's known to be firmy 200 cip with no budge). Just about right amount of meats on her double buns near greek area for fondle and nurturing game.
-asked donation upfront but pretty polite so no beef. At first hhr game cas she's having a pop up quiz from me. She's better at flipping greenies than half of the wagyus in town LOL. Quick shower with few teasing game after the room greetings. Her skin is very white like bleached with tofu LOL. Lfk dfk lemon peasy with no greasy; she has pretty decent GFE vibes and enjoys using BBBJ / HJ combo (no dt but she knows her strength around the ironman; could tell based on her exp and skills).
-while cuddling, it seems she checked most of the boxes that exceeds the average wagyu (not the dudy ones), her eng game is mod conversational / competitive vs other wagyus. Likes to giggle / laugh to match our humor vibes. I decided to give her a mini queens promotion from hhr to 45 minutes. She was playing with her phone at that time while waiting for me to give bookers heads up on the extension game.
-she's pretty warmed up at this point and while I'm fully aware she's mrsp cip gig based on the folks here, I let her demonstrate more skills on BBBJ and then when she's ready to play "connect more" aka "banging game" LOL, she didn't even bother asking about rubber or option and bypassed it prob cas she knows I won't take any bs on upcharge games, I told her to grab mine. She smoothly patched the 001 on with her oral skills, then hopped on exercising her full CG powers for a few minutes before we rotate with my turn on super marikomadbullbang001 LOLOL. This lasted over 12 minutes cas I couldn't pop on MISH after her CG style. She was also holding the base of the ironman to avoid the rubber from slipping inside / off the pussy. It felt like her pussy got way looser as we tabbed MISH-bang continuously and while fondling and sampling her natural B / C's, her sexy dfk has no odor prob cas she was using chapsticks in between lfk time to time.
-after a few more karatebangs on her loosy pussy (more like 66% cas she did prelube a bit before advancing the rubber), the rubber was already halfway off when she tried to grip it / cockblock in MISH, while continuing the deed cas she was locking me with her hands around my back and her legs like a spiderlady, the juices released inevitably but I couldn't stop cas she had her limbs around me tight while moaning like a rabbit (those bunny ears does match her vibes LOL). It seemed she was interested in MSOG at this point so I kept piledriving more wagyu yoga game after the 1st shot without pulling out, soon after about a few more minutes (7-9), the tank released another set of coconut juice. We were both sweating like burning hotdogs at a camp. She still didn't let go of my body with those spidey limbs LOL; I slowly pulled out ironman like playing matrix; surprisingly the rubber was jammed inside her with the juices, and my ironman has no cover LOLOL (some juices leaked out of her pussy; basically freebie CIP). Mariko was curious why I pulled out and assumed I didn't pop when it was very obvious cas she pulled the rubber out herself and tossed it (rubber has small fragments of juice but most of it was inside her pussy and still leaked a bit). She noticed it but didn't seem to care. I was shocked cas she literally gave me golden ezpass on freebie CIP knowing that my juices were jammed in with the rubber inside the dungeon and yet she didn't care and kept playing BBBJ / HJ combo while having me laid back down so she kept performing msog duties despite its obvious that the juices are exposed. Maybe her lonelyness got melted when I saw her after miona cas marikos room is literally right across mionas old room next to the tiny narrow standing shower with white interface. I was totally surprised she didn't bother nor react to the CIP when rubber with juice was jammed inside her (it was hard to tell the rubber was off while MISH-bang cas its 001, but as I slowly pulled out the rubber was trapped inside and juices leaking slowly and whole ironman was in her along with the tip of head squirting more juices). Her pussy is also really hollow on top of being loosy; most peeps can't tell but she might actually had hysterectomy done before which contributed to hollow mariko LOL. The hollow / loosy pussy prob made her not care about the CIP, who knows.
-after the session, despite being 45 minutes it was pretty long and no rushy at all cas she seems very adapted to the game. She briefly said she wants to see me again cas I'm funny and she likes the humor game LOL. She vaguely mentioned she might tour chicago after 1010, and return either early or near end of December while asking me to see her again. Bon voyage, even though CIP game wasnt expected, but prob unlikely to repeat cas pussys super hollow LOL.
#flappybirdsbowlingballgameLOL.
P.S.: it seems like its confirmed that there are many simps / shills often spoiling the chicks into upcharging full mrsp and a few of them are over-tipping / paying the chicks extremely well and then spreads false sht online about discounted / freebie cip (you know who you are, don't insult our intelligence) IMHO, they are full of balonies cas it happens often whenever we check the chicks after them, the girls are a lot more challenging to melt on CIP / discounts cas they are spoiled by the credentialed seniors here that spreads false info and plays 2 sided face; dress extremely well attire to impress the chicks and over tips them on first visit, then post back online about freebie / discounts which doesn't corresponds to the logical events that the chick got jaded a lot faster after they saw the girls. From now on, I don't believe a fking crap anything they say cas its obviously fake af, we are adults so stop trying to blame it on YMMV factor; theres nothing more logical to explain than chicks being jaded after being overtipped from sneaky jerks that ruins the market up making our session hunts a lot more fked up than it already is.
Miyu / Aka Snow 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/357.
Laura PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/laura ass looks good.
Tami due soon in couple of days
StinkyFeet
11-02-23, 21:46
https://www.prettyyukinyc.com/view/439
New girl at pretty yuki FH. Chance to fuck her for cheap before she potentially shows up in NYC LOL.
She was in CA for a week or two at 200/400 hr.
https://mimi16888.com/view/224
https://www.miyahouse.com/copy-of-in-house-4LMAO she's not going anywhere. Unless there's a surge for really REALLY thick super young looking Asian girls. She's the thiccest Asian girl without belly rolls I ever seen.
Miyu / Aka Snow 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/357.
Tami due soon in couple of daysLook at this gatekeeper LMFAO Tami starts tomorrow. Got my appointments booked already!
IronClad999
11-02-23, 22:26
Look at this gatekeeper LMFAO Tami starts tomorrow. Got my appointments booked already!Yup she already booked her flights way earlier and lots of secret admirers trying to confine her til she's burned out so the rest will have mediocre exp when she's burned out.
Thanks for your inputs. This stuff is turning more interesting and provides some insight on what goes on in the background. This sort of information is helpful when it comes to negotiations and how to approach things. I treat negotiations like an IRL hentai game, attacking at different points, trying to get the likeness meter up before I try. Although things can go terribly wrong and I can't reload a save point, failing is also part of the experience. This is all fascinating stuff.
I don't have enough data on this, but it has come up in conversations after multiple sessions with some JGirls. In general, the new ones are getting less than 50% of the hourly fee. Girls that come back for another tour are smarter and on the other side of the 50%.
The best deal that I have heard about? One popular girl that was here for 2 months was getting 60% and her agent fees were being paid by the house.
It varies between stores and agents. I think in Manhattan the store takes at most 50% of the total fee. I've had two situations where the house fee was (I think) waived in its entirety. Once was at 10 TC and it was $100 house fee out of a $300 HH base price. Another time was at Nurugirls, house fee there was $120 out of $320 H base price. Obviously if the girl is Japanese, there's the agent as well, who takes another 10%. This is why extra tips are so important to J-girls, they kinda get a raw deal on the base price split compared to C-girls. Although some may be smart / popular enough to try and negotiate a more favorable arrangement.
In Flushing it's more like a 60/40 split with the house taking at least 60%. I think when you buy an overpriced Flushing C-girl for $500 H she only keeps maybe $200-$240. Part of the reason the damn prices are so high is that Chinese operators take a hefty house fee. CA has K-orgs where you can fuck comparable girls for like 300 H with BB included. The main reason for the lower rates is the house doesn't take a huge cut. They also don't have as much overhead and have fewer peeps on the payroll. Some of these popular places in Flushing / LA are operating out of upscale single family homes and sometimes even a mansion. They got bills to pay!
RazGrizace00
11-02-23, 22:43
Here is my setup. I have a tripod for the phone I will grab one for the light since the one it comes with is flimsy. Hopefully I can find someone who doesn't mind showing her face.
CreaminThePie
11-02-23, 22:45
LMAO she's not going anywhere. Unless there's a surge for really REALLY thick super young looking Asian girls. She's the thiccest Asian girl without belly rolls I ever seen.Yea. Whenever I see pictures where they don't show their faces I already know she's on the thicker side. Her face does look pretty though if close to pics IRL. How was she?
Genghis Dong
11-02-23, 22:47
It varies between stores and agents. I think in Manhattan the store takes at most 50% of the total fee. I've had two situations where the house fee was (I think) waived in its entirety. Once was at 10 TC and it was $100 house fee out of a $300 HH base price. Another time was at Nurugirls, house fee there was $120 out of $320 H base price. Obviously if the girl is Japanese, there's the agent as well, who takes another 10%. This is why extra tips are so important to J-girls, they kinda get a raw deal on the base price split compared to C-girls. Although some may be smart / popular enough to try and negotiate a more favorable arrangement.
In Flushing it's more like a 60/40 split with the house taking at least 60%. I think when you buy an overpriced Flushing C-girl for $500 H she only keeps maybe $200-$240. Part of the reason the damn prices are so high is that Chinese operators take a hefty house fee. CA has K-orgs where you can fuck comparable girls for like 300 H with BB included. The main reason for the lower rates is the house doesn't take a huge cut. They also don't have as much overhead and have fewer peeps on the payroll. Some of these popular places in Flushing / LA are operating out of upscale single family homes and sometimes even a mansion. They got bills to pay!340 girls (Chinese) the house keeps like 100-120 in Manhattan. Girls definitely keep most of the money.
Looks like 2 days. WTF?
Tami SE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/442.
Strange they buried her deep below the fold.
Yuki SE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/603
Miyu / Aka Snow 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/357 - looks good. new pics?
Laura PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/laura ass looks good
Yup she already booked her flights way earlier and lots of secret admirers trying to confine her til she's burned out so the rest will have mediocre exp when she's burned out.If Tami is touring, what makes you think she is not burnt out already when she hits NYC again?
CreaminThePie
11-03-23, 09:09
Yuki SE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/603https://www.pleasure-palace.club/yuri
She's a returnee. Cute face and looks pretty good.
DrunkenKid
11-03-23, 09:37
Looks like 2 days. WTF?
Tami SE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/442.
Strange they buried her deep below the fold.LOL. Those MFs are still using my review of her.
340 girls (Chinese) the house keeps like 100-120 in Manhattan. Girls definitely keep most of the money.Yeah I have no idea WTF clowns are yapping about. Its tier pricing broken down by time 1/2'hour 45 min, hour. Doesn't matter if a girl is a 320 or 400 shop keeps the same amount plus room and board fees. Girls set their rates and agencies get a cut if they have an agency to begin with. All extras are pure profit for the girls. Simps needs to stop simping they sound like the chicks yapping now.
LOL. Those MFs are still using my review of her.I guess you are the MVP with the real dates on Tami too. I was off by one day but got it right anyway since she is starting tomorrow which is a couple of days when I posted about her. I think the review is just left from the last time. I think the system keeps the profile so they can just bring it back judging from the number in the URL.
So funny to be right anyway. Hahaha.
RIP to those who was able to scheduled her and got canceled today. Can't count the chicken before it hatched. It definitely sucks if you scheduled today on this beautiful Friday morning so sunny and bright only to get the bad news that she's not working.
You got it more accurate on 11/03 arrival but shit happened and she's off today.
Maybe she will get better later today but I will stick to my plan of 11/4 when I thought she was coming in the first place. I wonder about the bush, you said she shaved.. or someone said at end of the last trip.
🥇.
VidLover69
11-03-23, 10:34
Looks like 2 days. WTF?
Tami SE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/442.
Wow so much chatter about Tami. If she stays longer than two days, I might have to give her a try assuming she hasn't been booked full two weeks in advance. For the video lurkers, she is a hard 'no' on video.
Here is my setup. I have a tripod for the phone I will grab one for the light since the one it comes with is flimsy. Hopefully I can find someone who doesn't mind showing her face.You can get a little clip to attach the light to the smartphone. You'll just have to make sure it is stable.
You might want to consider seeing Gina Rollins for your first video rodeo. She is still in town for another couple of days. She is very open to video and 600 VIP gets you everything. She is a def a MILF and most of manhattan that can afford it has probably fucked her.
Oops I am wrong with 1 thing on Tami.
I guess you are the MVP with the real dates on Tami too. I was off by one day but got it right anyway since she is starting tomorrow which is a couple of days when I posted about her. I think the review is just left from the last time. I think the system keeps the profile so they can just bring it back judging from the number in the URL.
So funny to be right anyway. Hahaha.
RIP to those who was able to scheduled her and got canceled today. Can't count the chicken before it hatched. It definitely sucks if you scheduled today on this beautiful Friday morning so sunny and bright only to get the bad news that she's not working.
You got it more accurate on 11/03 arrival but shit happened and she's off today.
Maybe she will get better later today but I will stick to my plan of 11/4 when I thought she was coming in the first place. I wonder about the bush, you said she shaved.. or someone said at end of the last trip.
🥇.
I'm sure it's more than 2 days. I think they just keep her down below the fold to give more girls a chance to get looked at to get some bookings on their own.
Good business tactic to spread the wealth.
Gina is a bit old for my taste.
I like that he got the new DJI hand held in the picture he posted earlier. Compact kit.
Wow so much chatter about Tami. If she stays longer than two days, I might have to give her a try assuming she hasn't been booked full two weeks in advance. For the video lurkers, she is a hard 'no' on video.
You can get a little clip to attach the light to the smartphone. You'll just have to make sure it is stable.
You might want to consider seeing Gina Rollins for your first video rodeo. She is still in town for another couple of days. She is very open to video and 600 VIP gets you everything. She is a def a MILF and most of manhattan that can afford it has probably fucked her.
MLE Suyen update. No PSE per website.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 11:11
Yeah I have no idea WTF clowns are yapping about. Its tier pricing broken down by time 1/2'hour 45 min, hour. Doesn't matter if a girl is a 320 or 400 shop keeps the same amount plus room and board fees. Girls set their rates and agencies get a cut if they have an agency to begin with. All extras are pure profit for the girls. Simps needs to stop simping they sound like the chicks yapping now.This is very accurate; better than lots of simps including certain seniors here that's spreading false sht (iykyk) without backing it up with concrete proof. In general, the girls are most profittable at the end of the day and they know that on top of chicks being firm with upcharges just shows their greedy game on top of the large profit margins. The popular ones certainly makes over many doctors and lawyers, esp those that want to charge clients for outcall dating scenes (pretty much indie rates at this point) cas they name their price.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 11:18
If Tami is touring, what makes you think she is not burnt out already when she hits NYC again?Go ask the girls, this is the situation where big ass YMMV kicks in (iykyk). While she may have jet lags, but she's still seeing a few here and there but not exactly burned out. And who knows what she was doing prior to flying out to NYC. My point was its up to the girls; not from certain peeps here to determine when she's arriving (unless that person is her personal assistant / boss / shill / simp), PERIOD. Re-read the post again jedi. I was replying to ewe's post.
VidLover69
11-03-23, 11:22
Gina is a bit old for my taste.
I like that he got the new DJI hand held in the picture he posted earlier. Compact kit.Gina is definitely older but that is plus for those that don't have experience with video. Gina also looks damn good for her age. She has a body of a early 30 something.
So far, I'm disappointed with the current crop of jgirls. So many hard no's lately. Hopefully there'll be some gems in the newest crop that just showed up.
CreaminThePie
11-03-23, 11:31
LMAO she's not going anywhere. Unless there's a surge for really REALLY thick super young looking Asian girls. She's the thiccest Asian girl without belly rolls I ever seen.https://risingsun8.com/view/290
You were saying? She coulda been had for 140/30 m LOL.
She's at r8 now we all missed our chance to bang for cheap haha.
RazGrizace00
11-03-23, 11:44
Wow so much chatter about Tami. If she stays longer than two days, I might have to give her a try assuming she hasn't been booked full two weeks in advance. For the video lurkers, she is a hard 'no' on video.
You can get a little clip to attach the light to the smartphone. You'll just have to make sure it is stable.
You might want to consider seeing Gina Rollins for your first video rodeo. She is still in town for another couple of days. She is very open to video and 600 VIP gets you everything. She is a def a MILF and most of manhattan that can afford it has probably fucked her.I ordered a new tripod and it has the clip for a cold shoe so I can add that with phone and light. I wanted to see Gina but she is leaving on the 5th but I get there on the 6th.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 11:59
Pics are 88% accurate in terms of her face game and body wise; nose is more bend and flat, natural b's (c according to her standards LOL). And soft tofu skin with no bean curds (barely any scars but a tiny fuzzy mark behind her right shoulder near the center of her spine if you pay close attention).
It was her first day at the spot, pics are pretty accurate with slight P.S. On her nose in face game, but body wise she's actually a lot more petite and slimmer than the pics (double buns behind is slight meaty but not hardcore despite smooth skin. Lots of manicures and pedicures (more designs on the toes LOL). At first she might be shy with lfk dfk, but slowly transitioned to dfk after warming her up (yes she's that type for slow starter). Quick shower template out the way (she does moderate thorough washups and cleans herself pretty well too). Kindly asked for donation upfront and length of session in the beginning but not biggie (she does take a while to count them just like miona; and be wary that she may miscount the cash cas she repeatedly counted them over 4 times by herself near the bed LOLOL).
-despite being shy and timid even after melting, her eng game is kinda half baked where she understands very basic terms but not vocabulary queen. She's here for about a week or so according to her verbal game then prob hops over to LA near koreatown soon then back to japan. Fully shaven kitty without stubbles (83-86% tight both in morning and noon LOL and filled up with antibacterial lubes which tasted like dry anesthetics, iykyk). Sensitive near armpit and feet with limited licking / sampling cas she will giggle and squirm away LOL. Lfk dfk lemon peasy after melty game. First visit she was easygoing on p2 p and potential freebie but she would hold our girth with mild motions of HJ and ask "condom or extra? I went along with 001 cas when the girls have to ask, its usually a giveaway.
-she kindly asked for BBBJ with no dt but she enjoys taking her time without rush on this game. Another pointer is she doesn't allow or strongly prefers NO CIM. While in MISH-bang, she sometimes would ask if we want to switch position when she's bored LOL. Lots of wagyu moans (kimochi / ikuiku game) while the whole beds shaking. She also likes to frequently ask us to perform DATY cas she seem to enjoy that the most but takes darn long to melt and stares at us time to time. Moderate cockblocking on multiple visits cas she's very conscious of rubber slipping off and likes to hold the base of the ironman after blowing off the juices in steam bag LOL. She's not bad and smiles / giggles time to time when striking chit-chats to avoid awkward game in the room (she's in the room across from mariko; yes mionas old room).
P.S.: a few miss but not bad overall, and yes she is firmy (200 cip; no budge even with repeat visit). She's also very honest with us that "we" are not special even though she claimed she doesn't like condom neither LOL.
Recommendation game: yes, not stellar, but once a while isn't too bad and maybe as backup so not really lady gaga material LOL. Her winning point is attitude; very polite and quiet vibes, if she puts on glasses she might be diff like library girl LOL.
Tami is working until 3 pm today as she is jet lagged I got in on the good stuff this morning. If a gatekeeper gets a gold medal then where’s my fucking crown! Lol
Kawaii txted at 11 saying she will work until 3 PM and 3 customers total.
I already declined for the day then. Can't change my plans for any girl.
Her bff said she is feeling better now though so maybe she will open up more time slots You animals can call and try.
This is very accurate; better than lots of simps including certain seniors here that's spreading false sht (iykyk) without backing it up with concrete proof. In general, the girls are most profittable at the end of the day and they know that on top of chicks being firm with upcharges just shows their greedy game on top of the large profit margins. The popular ones certainly makes over many doctors and lawyers, esp those that want to charge clients for outcall dating scenes (pretty much indie rates at this point) cas they name their price.If shops took anywhere near 50% it's not worth it for girls to come over. With travel cost, agency fees and incidentals. A girl isn't going to trick for 80 bucks profit. Never trust simp logic.
VidLover69
11-03-23, 13:09
I ordered a new tripod and it has the clip for a cold shoe so I can add that with phone and light. I wanted to see Gina but she is leaving on the 5th but I get there on the 6th.Aoi at Xoxo might be your next best choice. When I saw her in the spring, she was firm MSRP on extras (for each) but she also wasn't camera shy. BTW, don't shine a light in her face when you are shooting POV BBBJ. This way, she'll look into your POV camera while giving the BBBJ and playing with jr. Very few girls actually do this and Aoi is one of them. Looks damn hot on the replay.
RazGrizace00
11-03-23, 13:36
Aoi at Xoxo might be your next best choice. When I saw her in the spring, she was firm MSRP on extras (for each) but she also wasn't camera shy. BTW, don't shine a light in her face when you are shooting POV BBBJ. This way, she'll look into your POV camera while giving the BBBJ and playing with jr. Very few girls actually do this and Aoi is one of them. Looks damn hot on the replay.Ohh shit I hope she is still around when I'm there. I was looking at her too. Yeah I was planning to have the light to illuminate the room not directly in her face since the DJI has a 1 inch sensor so low light is pretty good. Thanks for all the info I'm so excited!
Guess Meg decided to stay a little longer? She had originally told me and a few other people that she was leaving today, anyone know if she moved her return date to Japan? I'm thinking of seeing her again but it would be my fourth time. Want to cum in someone else before cumming in Meg again one last time.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 14:45
Tami is working until 3 pm today as she is jet lagged I got in on the good stuff this morning. If a gatekeeper gets a gold medal then wheres my fucking crown! LolFull reunion with her on your end today man; she still retains her skills and beauty LOL.
Full reunion with her on your end today man; she still retains her skills and beauty LOL.She still all that and more. Said my skills have improved since last time. I told her I've been practicing LOL.
Leroy came to SE last night and broke the glass screen door with a brick spray painted the cameras and wrote 'brothal' in spray paint on the wall outside the shop. I see this ending badly for him.OMG. What the fuck is wrong with this guy!
BloodHounds
11-03-23, 15:34
Did they catch him? I hope they got him! This is so fucked up beyond imagination.
Leroy came to SE last night and broke the glass screen door with a brick spray painted the cameras and wrote 'brothal' in spray paint on the wall outside the shop. I see this ending badly for him.
BloodHounds
11-03-23, 15:39
Leroy came to SE last night and broke the glass screen door with a brick spray painted the cameras and wrote 'brothal' in spray paint on the wall outside the shop. I see this ending badly for him.That may be a deterrent for mongers going there.
It's embarrassing enough to wait at the door if papa is slow to open.
Now I have to stand next to this "Brothel" paint you mentioned and people walking behind me to take the elevator will surely see that shit. WTF man.
This Leroy motherfucker needs to calm the fuck down.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 16:01
If shops took anywhere near 50% it's not worth it for girls to come over. With travel cost, agency fees and incidentals. A girl isn't going to trick for 80 bucks profit. Never trust simp logic.A few exceptions might be fast house gigs like prettyyuki in flushy LOL; but even then girls got no choice if they are banished to those spots cas they still in dire needs of income support.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 16:02
She still all that and more. Said my skills have improved since last time. I told her I've been practicing LOL.She's not as picky as others and retains her secret recipe with strong friendly attitude; but that's double edge sword cas it can lead to other weirdos taking advantage of her kindness.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 16:03
Tami is working until 3 pm today as she is jet lagged I got in on the good stuff this morning. If a gatekeeper gets a gold medal then wheres my fucking crown! LolIf she's still hustling while on jet lag mode; she's ready for next batch of shopping list to fill her collection shelf LOL.
Yup, in full concurrence with you my homie:
TL; DR (yes its long, bear with it or tear up the greenies LOL);.
After checking out miona same day, mariko was lonely from early noon til dinner time so I decided to test her waters based on the popular reps she's gained. Curtailed synopsis:
-the new pics with her in black bunny ears are 90-95% her in terms of accuracy. She's a lot more slimmer / skinnier in person and has a rabbit voice (naughty flirty pussycat tone; I can see why most iron boys are infatuated with her LOL). Natural soft B-C's but not saggy nor firm (medium rare with plenty of milks for nourish game). Fully shaven kitty about 68-70% tight (I was expecting premium pussy since she's known to be firmy 200 cip with no budge). Just about right amount of meats on her double buns near greek area for fondle and nurturing game.
-asked donation upfront but pretty polite so no beef. At first hhr game cas she's having a pop up quiz from me. She's better at flipping greenies than half of the wagyus in town LOL. Quick shower with few teasing game after the room greetings. Her skin is very white like bleached with tofu LOL. Lfk dfk lemon peasy with no greasy; she has pretty decent GFE vibes and enjoys using BBBJ / HJ combo (no dt but she knows her strength around the ironman; could tell based on her exp and skills).
-while cuddling, it seems she checked most of the boxes that exceeds the average wagyu (not the dudy ones), her eng game is mod conversational / competitive vs other wagyus. Likes to giggle / laugh to match our humor vibes. I decided to give her a mini queens promotion from hhr to 45 minutes. She was playing with her phone at that time while waiting for me to give bookers heads up on the extension game.
-she's pretty warmed up at this point and while I'm fully aware she's mrsp cip gig based on the folks here, I let her demonstrate more skills on BBBJ and then when she's ready to play "connect more" aka "banging game" LOL, she didn't even bother asking about rubber or option and bypassed it prob cas she knows I won't take any bs on upcharge games, I told her to grab mine. She smoothly patched the 001 on with her oral skills, then hopped on exercising her full CG powers for a few minutes before we rotate with my turn on super marikomadbullbang001 LOLOL. This lasted over 12 minutes cas I couldn't pop on MISH after her CG style. She was also holding the base of the ironman to avoid the rubber from slipping inside / off the pussy. It felt like her pussy got way looser as we tabbed MISH-bang continuously and while fondling and sampling her natural B / C's, her sexy dfk has no odor prob cas she was using chapsticks in between lfk time to time.
-after a few more karatebangs on her loosy pussy (more like 66% cas she did prelube a bit before advancing the rubber), the rubber was already halfway off when she tried to grip it / cockblock in MISH, while continuing the deed cas she was locking me with her hands around my back and her legs like a spiderlady, the juices released inevitably but I couldn't stop cas she had her limbs around me tight while moaning like a rabbit (those bunny ears does match her vibes LOL). It seemed she was interested in MSOG at this point so I kept piledriving more wagyu yoga game after the 1st shot without pulling out, soon after about a few more minutes (7-9), the tank released another set of coconut juice. We were both sweating like burning hotdogs at a camp. She still didn't let go of my body with those spidey limbs LOL; I slowly pulled out ironman like playing matrix; surprisingly the rubber was jammed inside her with the juices, and my ironman has no cover LOLOL (some juices leaked out of her pussy; basically freebie CIP). Mariko was curious why I pulled out and assumed I didn't pop when it was very obvious cas she pulled the rubber out herself and tossed it (rubber has small fragments of juice but most of it was inside her pussy and still leaked a bit). She noticed it but didn't seem to care. I was shocked cas she literally gave me golden ezpass on freebie CIP knowing that my juices were jammed in with the rubber inside the dungeon and yet she didn't care and kept playing BBBJ / HJ combo while having me laid back down so she kept performing msog duties despite its obvious that the juices are exposed. Maybe her lonelyness got melted when I saw her after miona cas marikos room is literally right across mionas old room next to the tiny narrow standing shower with white interface. I was totally surprised she didn't bother nor react to the CIP when rubber with juice was jammed inside her (it was hard to tell the rubber was off while MISH-bang cas its 001, but as I slowly pulled out the rubber was trapped inside and juices leaking slowly and whole ironman was in her along with the tip of head squirting more juices). Her pussy is also really hollow on top of being loosy; most peeps can't tell but she might actually had hysterectomy done before which contributed to hollow mariko LOL. The hollow / loosy pussy prob made her not care about the CIP, who knows.
-after the session, despite being 45 minutes it was pretty long and no rushy at all cas she seems very adapted to the game. She briefly said she wants to see me again cas I'm funny and she likes the humor game LOL. She vaguely mentioned she might tour chicago after 1010, and return either early or near end of December while asking me to see her again. Bon voyage, even though CIP game wasnt expected, but prob unlikely to repeat cas pussys super hollow LOL.
#flappybirdsbowlingballgameLOL.
P.S.: it seems like its confirmed that there are many simps / shills often spoiling the chicks into upcharging full mrsp and a few of them are over-tipping / paying the chicks extremely well and then spreads false sht online about discounted / freebie cip (you know who you are, don't insult our intelligence) IMHO, they are full of balonies cas it happens often whenever we check the chicks after them, the girls are a lot more challenging to melt on CIP / discounts cas they are spoiled by the credentialed seniors here that spreads false info and plays 2 sided face; dress extremely well attire to impress the chicks and over tips them on first visit, then post back online about freebie / discounts which doesn't corresponds to the logical events that the chick got jaded a lot faster after they saw the girls. From now on, I don't believe a fking crap anything they say cas its obviously fake af, we are adults so stop trying to blame it on YMMV factor; theres nothing more logical to explain than chicks being jaded after being overtipped from sneaky jerks that ruins the market up making our session hunts a lot more fked up than it already is.Sometimes girls click with you so well if the hat busted they don't want you to stop giving them the good stuff just to redress. Nicely done to melt Mariko's heart IC.
Go ask the girls, this is the situation where big ass YMMV kicks in (iykyk). While she may have jet lags, but she's still seeing a few here and there but not exactly burned out. And who knows what she was doing prior to flying out to NYC. My point was its up to the girls; not from certain peeps here to determine when she's arriving (unless that person is her personal assistant / boss / shill / simp), PERIOD. Re-read the post again jedi. I was replying to ewe's post.I think Tami is ready, despite jet lag. She literally texted all her loyal fan base she's arriving and ready to work before the shop even knew she was coming. That's some real early bird shit LOL.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 16:14
Well big tits are the main draw and CIP was just $100 so maybe some of you guys can get it down even lower. Massive melons, lots of Russian including in the shower right away when she lowered herself and basically washed my cock between her soap tits. When I was on the bed, she sucked my dick then gave me more Russian and kissed my cock while my dick was stroked by her tits also. Pussy not terribly tight for me but maybe it's the lube or my dick is just not big enough. I pulled out to wiped my cock down to have less lube and went back in to fill her pussy up!
Overall, cheap CIP and big tits are the best thing.Her overall menu doesn't sound bad esp not firmy on cip gig which is a plus. She can easily be a keeper down the road assuming she's not jaded LOL.
Genghis Dong
11-03-23, 16:24
I think Tami is ready, despite jet lag. She literally texted all her loyal fan base she's arriving and ready to work before the shop even knew she was coming. That's some real early bird shit LOL.Every time someone says "X gave me her wechat / number" I am like, yeah, so she can text you that she misses you when business is slow. That is how I got started on WeChat.
StinkyFeet
11-03-23, 16:26
https://risingsun8.com/view/290
You were saying? She coulda been had for 140/30 m LOL.
She's at r8 now we all missed our chance to bang for cheap haha.I guess there is a tree for every bird. I passed on her, too thick for my taste.
StinkyFeet
11-03-23, 16:36
Well big tits are the main draw and CIP was just $100 so maybe some of you guys can get it down even lower. Massive melons, lots of Russian including in the shower right away when she lowered herself and basically washed my cock between her soap tits. When I was on the bed, she sucked my dick then gave me more Russian and kissed my cock while my dick was stroked by her tits also. Pussy not terribly tight for me but maybe it's the lube or my dick is just not big enough. I pulled out to wiped my cock down to have less lube and went back in to fill her pussy up!
Overall, cheap CIP and big tits are the best thing.This girl I saw briefly at the lineup at her former shop, how can I describe her. 18-21 yo and THIC body. No rolls on her but big thighs, has a belly but like fat. Muscular fat (Belly, body reminds me of the thick short black girls that wait at the hip-hop dance club a block away from my place.
Same girl?
Saw that Snow was coming back as Miyu at 1010 late last night and booked an appointment to see her. I get to the shop and am escorted to her room.
Face: 8/10.
The pictures of her are accurate. Her smile is very cute! As it was a bit chilly out, just seeing her smile felt very welcoming to me and warmed me up inside. And she is beautiful in person.
Body: 9/10.
She's about 5'2-5'4. Verrrry nice C-cups, maybe small Ds, that felt soft to the touch. Her body looks great and she looks quite fit. She's got a landing strip for those who need to know. It was well trimmed and didn't get in the way of anything or distract at all.
Service: 9/10 and Attitude: 8/10.
Meeting her in the room, she started off quiet and timid for the first few minutes but as the session went on Miyu opened up more and became a bit more talkative and flirty. Shower was the typical J-girl shower: light cleaning with very little preview outside of kissing and touching here and there, so at this point I don't hold this against any J-girl as I think it's just standard.
Back in the room, I laid on the bed and she immediately goes on top of me for some very nice LFK and DFK. Her DFK game, to me, was pretty good! She was receptive when our tongues touched and in my opinion / from my experience, one of the better J-girls at DFK. A little while into it the wonderful kissing fest, she starts playing with with an already hard junior and the boys. She kisses my neck, my chest, my nipples and my stomach as she makes her way down. I let her do her thing. Her BBBJ game was good. I would rate it a little better than average. I usually prefer a sloppier BBBJ but she had good hand, mouth, and tongue work, I felt no teeth, and she kept a good speed throughout. Overall, it felt pretty darn good and kept me hard and interested for more.
As she was about to mount for CG, I stopped her and laid her down for some DATY. I kept at this for way longer than I expected and intended. Because of this, I didn't get to go into many positions during this session with her. I think I went down on her for a good 15-20 minutes of the session but she was just so damn tasty and she smelled like vanilla! I felt like I was licking at vanilla ice cream at some points. A few moans here, closed eyes there, some eyerolls and body jerks / convulsing every now and again. I think she enjoyed herself as much as I enjoyed going down on her. She kept getting wetter and wetter.
I start kissing up her body and go in for some DFK as she embraces me with her legs and arms. I engage in some P2 P play as we kiss, then stand up on the side of the bed and slide it in slowly. She's got a tight one. She's not the tightest I have had, but she is pretty tight. We do some standing mish for a while before I go back onto the bed to lean into her more in laying mish so that I could suck on her nipples on those beautiful mounds of hers as I thrust into her. After enjoying the peaks of her mountains, I kiss her neck and start to thrust faster. We DFK and she wraps her legs around me. I let her know I am about to cum and she starts DFK'ing me with more intensity / tongue action and embracing me with her arms and legs harder. I shoot my "3 days of no action" load inside of her. It felt great! We embrace for about 1 or 2 minutes after the act before the alarm goes off and she helps clean me and her up. The alarm is when I realized in my head "Wow I guess I spent a longer time in DATY than I thought. " as I am usually a 2-3 pop guy. I should have booked a 90 minute. I kind of wanted to get another pop out and extend the time, but I had work related obligations to run out to right after the session, so I didn't really even have the option to ask to extend the time. She turned off the alarm and we laid down on the bed for a little bit just to embrace and chat about random things before going for a clean up shower.
340 girls (Chinese) the house keeps like 100-120 in Manhattan. Girls definitely keep most of the money.
Yeah I have no idea WTF clowns are yapping about. Its tier pricing broken down by time 1/2'hour 45 min, hour. Doesn't matter if a girl is a 320 or 400 shop keeps the same amount plus room and board fees. Girls set their rates and agencies get a cut if they have an agency to begin with. All extras are pure profit for the girls. Simps needs to stop simping they sound like the chicks yapping now.
If shops took anywhere near 50% it's not worth it for girls to come over. With travel cost, agency fees and incidentals. A girl isn't going to trick for 80 bucks profit. Never trust simp logic.The split GD mentioned is consistent with what I've seen for C-girls in Manhattan. $120/340 is a roughly 35% cut for the house. Japanese girls will have an agent too so that's another 10% or about $30 bucks for the agent. Now we're looking at about a 45% cut for the house / agent. That's pretty damn close to 50%, is it not? Chinese girls also tend to get most favored nation treatment from these Chinese operated shops, and I'm quite sure they keep a higher percentage than the J-girls, even putting the agents cut aside. Shops are more inclined to work with C-girls on the split, especially since they tend to stay long term.
Japanese girls usually charge about 20,000 yen per hour in Japan ($120 USD). At a more high end Soaplands they might charge closer to 40,000 yen per hour ($260 USD) but they still have to give the house at least 30% in Japan. Tips for video and BBFS are usually pretty small in Japan, maybe another 10,000 yen max. So even with the near 50% split they're still making more money in the US per session than in Japan. Not to mention the big tips they get for extras here. If someone buys an hour for $340 and tips $100-200 for BB or video, the girl makes at least double what she would for an hour of work in Japan.
Not sure why you feel the need to discredit other posters who are just trying to share some useful intel. As usual, I see you're posting a lot of cringey shit, starting drama over nothing and deleting your posts.
RazGrizace00
11-03-23, 16:51
Aoi at Xoxo might be your next best choice. When I saw her in the spring, she was firm MSRP on extras (for each) but she also wasn't camera shy. BTW, don't shine a light in her face when you are shooting POV BBBJ. This way, she'll look into your POV camera while giving the BBBJ and playing with jr. Very few girls actually do this and Aoi is one of them. Looks damn hot on the replay.Trying to verify at Xoxo. They replied ok then went radio silent. I pinged them and hour after but nothing. I'll try again tomorrow if no word.
The split GD mentioned is consistent with what I've seen for C-girls in Manhattan. $120/340 is a roughly 35% cut for the house. Japanese girls will have an agent too so that's another 10% or about $30 bucks for the agent. Now we're looking at about a 45% cut for the house / agent. That's pretty damn close to 50%, is it not? Chinese girls also tend to get most favored nation treatment from these Chinese operated shops, and I'm quite sure they keep a higher percentage than the J-girls, even putting the agents cut aside. Shops are more inclined to work with C-girls on the split, especially since they tend to stay long term.
Japanese girls usually charge about 20,000 yen per hour in Japan ($120 USD). At a more high end Soaplands they might charge closer to 40,000 yen per hour ($260 USD) but they still have to give the house at least 30% in Japan. Tips for video and BBFS are usually pretty small in Japan, maybe another 10,000 yen max. So even with the near 50% split they're still making more money in the US per session than in Japan. Not to mention the big tips they get for extras here. If someone buys an hour for $340 and tips $100-200 for BB the girl makes at least double what she would for an hour of work in Japan.
Not sure why you feel the need to discredit other posters who are just trying to share some useful intel. As usual, I see you're posting a lot of cringey shit and starting drama over nothing. You like to try and present yourself as the guy with the inside scoop, but your intel is just not good LOL.It's good to know what a girl makes. I get a bigger kick knowing what a girl is not making because I dropped them from my rotation LOL. I visit mid-afternoon when it is usually not busy so my time slot is not likely taken up by another monger.
The split GD mentioned is consistent with what I've seen for C-girls in Manhattan. $120/340 is a roughly 35% cut for the house. Japanese girls will have an agent too so that's another 10% or about $30 bucks for the agent. Now we're looking at about a 45% cut for the house / agent. That's pretty damn close to 50%, is it not? Chinese girls also tend to get most favored nation treatment from these Chinese operated shops, and I'm quite sure they keep a higher percentage than the J-girls, even putting the agents cut aside. Shops are more inclined to work with C-girls on the split, especially since they tend to stay long term.
Japanese girls usually charge about 20,000 yen per hour in Japan ($120 USD). At a more high end Soaplands they might charge closer to 40,000 yen per hour ($260 USD) but they still have to give the house at least 30% in Japan. Tips for video and BBFS are usually pretty small in Japan, maybe another 10,000 yen max. So even with the near 50% split they're still making more money in the US per session than in Japan. Not to mention the big tips they get for extras here. If someone buys an hour for $340 and tips $100-200 for BB or video, the girl makes at least double what she would for an hour of work in Japan.
Not sure why you feel the need to discredit other posters who are just trying to share some useful intel. As usual, I see you're posting a lot of cringey shit, starting drama over nothing and deleting your posts. You like to try and present yourself as the guy with the inside scoop but your intel is just not good LOL.I'm not sure why you feel you have the inside scoop on anything. Every shop is pushing for Jgirls now because the volume of clients they bring. Which shop is making more with Cgirls than Jgirls today? And Chinese nationalist favoritism, give me a break sounds like some racist shit you're implying. Show me on the doll where the bad Chinese lady touched you.
Now for others, Jgirls are charged less than cgirls at shops because shops realize jgirls have higher overhead. Usually about 100/360-400. Many show up without agencies so the cut is greater for the girls. And yes they tend to charge or be firm with upgrades. Not factoring in upgrades jgirls cuts tend to hover around 60%-65% with upgrades then its 70-80% if they are getting 50% or less then they broke even.
You can troll me all you want, but this bad simp logic is the reason you're struggling paying for 30 minutes sessions and trying to squeeze into baby sized Japanese condoms. Glad you're not my accountant.
DrunkenKid
11-03-23, 17:43
Guess Meg decided to stay a little longer? She had originally told me and a few other people that she was leaving today, anyone know if she moved her return date to Japan? I'm thinking of seeing her again but it would be my fourth time. Want to cum in someone else before cumming in Meg again one last time.Yup, you have one more week. She'll be leaving on 11/10 now. She is freezing her ass off but the work and money has been very good.
DrunkenKid
11-03-23, 17:46
Not sure why you feel the need to discredit other posters who are just trying to share some useful intel. As usual, I see you're posting a lot of cringey shit, starting drama over nothing and deleting your posts.LOL. Just hit the ignore button and move on. Life is too short to engage in forum wars.
LOL. Just hit the ignore button and move on. Life is too short to engage in forum wars.Simps got to do what a simps got to do LMFAO.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 17:54
I'm not sure why you feel you have the inside scoop on anything. Every shop is pushing for Jgirls now because the volume of clients they bring. Which shop is making more with Cgirls than Jgirls today? And Chinese nationalist favoritism, give me a break sounds like some racist shit you're implying. Show me on the doll where the bad Chinese lady touched you.
Now for others, Jgirls are charged less than cgirls at shops because shops realize jgirls have higher overhead. Usually about 100/360-400. Many show up without agencies so the cut is greater for the girls. And yes they tend to charge or be firm with upgrades. Not factoring in upgrades jgirls cuts tend to hover around 60%-65% with upgrades then its 70-80% if they are getting 50% or less then they broke even.
You can troll me all you want, but this bad simp logic is the reason you're struggling paying for 30 minutes sessions and trying to squeeze into baby sized Japanese condoms. Glad you're not my accountant.IMHO, this seems to be as accurate it can be besides involving in the business itself cas its something majority of the public won't have any insight unless they in the business themselves or have the background / exp to back it up. In general, most wagyus can overpower a lot of hairyducks in terms of volume with a few exceptions, but Chinese abalones with premium calibers are rare nowadays and wagyus are slowly swarming up the map LOL.
I go with a main and a handheld cell phone for pov. It's way too distracting with more and too much time is wasted setting up and taking down. You can try it but you will quickly know what I mean.I've tried video but it just takes me out of the moment. I'm thinking this: https://www.ray-ban.com/usa/electronics/RW4006RAY-BAN%20|%20META%20WAYFARER-Black/8056597988377. Yes, I know this in not professional, only 1 min videos at a time, probably lower resolution BUT hands free POV might be the way to go for some.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 17:57
Simps got to do what a simps got to do LMFAO.Not just this board, many other simpshillcrew also enjoys attacking / insulting others instead of moving on (yes, they are double standard types; telling others one way and they themselves does the opposite). Internet game filled with raw fantasies are addicting for them to keep trolling LOL.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 17:59
Saw that Snow was coming back as Miyu at 1010 late last night and booked an appointment to see her. I get to the shop and am escorted to her room.
Face: 8/10.
The pictures of her are accurate. Her smile is very cute! As it was a bit chilly out, just seeing her smile felt very welcoming to me and warmed me up inside. And she is beautiful in person.
Body: 9/10.
She's about 5'2-5'4. Verrrry nice C-cups, maybe small Ds, that felt soft to the touch. Her body looks great and she looks quite fit. She's got a landing strip for those who need to know. It was well trimmed and didn't get in the way of anything or distract at all.
Service: 9/10 and Attitude: 8/10.
Meeting her in the room, she started off quiet and timid for the first few minutes but as the session went on Miyu opened up more and became a bit more talkative and flirty. Shower was the typical J-girl shower: light cleaning with very little preview outside of kissing and touching here and there, so at this point I don't hold this against any J-girl as I think it's just standard.
Back in the room, I laid on the bed and she immediately goes on top of me for some very nice LFK and DFK. Her DFK game, to me, was pretty good! She was receptive when our tongues touched and in my opinion / from my experience, one of the better J-girls at DFK. A little while into it the wonderful kissing fest, she starts playing with with an already hard junior and the boys. She kisses my neck, my chest, my nipples and my stomach as she makes her way down. I let her do her thing. Her BBBJ game was good. I would rate it a little better than average. I usually prefer a sloppier BBBJ but she had good hand, mouth, and tongue work, I felt no teeth, and she kept a good speed throughout. Overall, it felt pretty darn good and kept me hard and interested for more.
As she was about to mount for CG, I stopped her and laid her down for some DATY. I kept at this for way longer than I expected and intended. Because of this, I didn't get to go into many positions during this session with her. I think I went down on her for a good 15-20 minutes of the session but she was just so damn tasty and she smelled like vanilla! I felt like I was licking at vanilla ice cream at some points. A few moans here, closed eyes there, some eyerolls and body jerks / convulsing every now and again. I think she enjoyed herself as much as I enjoyed going down on her. She kept getting wetter and wetter.
I start kissing up her body and go in for some DFK as she embraces me with her legs and arms. I engage in some P2 P play as we kiss, then stand up on the side of the bed and slide it in slowly. She's got a tight one. She's not the tightest I have had, but she is pretty tight. We do some standing mish for a while before I go back onto the bed to lean into her more in laying mish so that I could suck on her nipples on those beautiful mounds of hers as I thrust into her. After enjoying the peaks of her mountains, I kiss her neck and start to thrust faster. We DFK and she wraps her legs around me. I let her know I am about to cum and she starts DFK'ing me with more intensity / tongue action and embracing me with her arms and legs harder. I shoot my "3 days of no action" load inside of her. It felt great! We embrace for about 1 or 2 minutes after the act before the alarm goes off and she helps clean me and her up. The alarm is when I realized in my head "Wow I guess I spent a longer time in DATY than I thought. " as I am usually a 2-3 pop guy. I should have booked a 90 minute. I kind of wanted to get another pop out and extend the time, but I had work related obligations to run out to right after the session, so I didn't really even have the option to ask to extend the time. She turned off the alarm and we laid down on the bed for a little bit just to embrace and chat about random things before going for a clean up shower.Sounds like an amazing gig scy, well done. Might give her a shot soon too. Another winner in the bangers list LOL.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 18:00
I think Tami is ready, despite jet lag. She literally texted all her loyal fan base she's arriving and ready to work before the shop even knew she was coming. That's some real early bird shit LOL.Seems like there was a few glitch / lags on our end with recent duds too LOL, but with both premium wagyus making their comeback, this winter doesn't seem too dull yet LOL.
Saw that Snow was coming back as Miyu at 1010 late last night and booked an appointment to see her. I get to the shop and am escorted to her room.
Face: 8/10.
The pictures of her are accurate. Her smile is very cute! As it was a bit chilly out, just seeing her smile felt very welcoming to me and warmed me up inside. And she is beautiful in person.
Body: 9/10.
She's about 5'2-5'4. Verrrry nice C-cups, maybe small Ds, that felt soft to the touch. Her body looks great and she looks quite fit. She's got a landing strip for those who need to know. It was well trimmed and didn't get in the way of anything or distract at all.
Service: 9/10 and Attitude: 8/10.
Meeting her in the room, she started off quiet and timid for the first few minutes but as the session went on Miyu opened up more and became a bit more talkative and flirty. Shower was the typical J-girl shower: light cleaning with very little preview outside of kissing and touching here and there, so at this point I don't hold this against any J-girl as I think it's just standard.
Back in the room, I laid on the bed and she immediately goes on top of me for some very nice LFK and DFK. Her DFK game, to me, was pretty good! She was receptive when our tongues touched and in my opinion / from my experience, one of the better J-girls at DFK. A little while into it the wonderful kissing fest, she starts playing with with an already hard junior and the boys. She kisses my neck, my chest, my nipples and my stomach as she makes her way down. I let her do her thing. Her BBBJ game was good. I would rate it a little better than average. I usually prefer a sloppier BBBJ but she had good hand, mouth, and tongue work, I felt no teeth, and she kept a good speed throughout. Overall, it felt pretty darn good and kept me hard and interested for more.
As she was about to mount for CG, I stopped her and laid her down for some DATY. I kept at this for way longer than I expected and intended. Because of this, I didn't get to go into many positions during this session with her. I think I went down on her for a good 15-20 minutes of the session but she was just so damn tasty and she smelled like vanilla! I felt like I was licking at vanilla ice cream at some points. A few moans here, closed eyes there, some eyerolls and body jerks / convulsing every now and again. I think she enjoyed herself as much as I enjoyed going down on her. She kept getting wetter and wetter.
I start kissing up her body and go in for some DFK as she embraces me with her legs and arms. I engage in some P2 P play as we kiss, then stand up on the side of the bed and slide it in slowly. She's got a tight one. She's not the tightest I have had, but she is pretty tight. We do some standing mish for a while before I go back onto the bed to lean into her more in laying mish so that I could suck on her nipples on those beautiful mounds of hers as I thrust into her. After enjoying the peaks of her mountains, I kiss her neck and start to thrust faster. We DFK and she wraps her legs around me. I let her know I am about to cum and she starts DFK'ing me with more intensity / tongue action and embracing me with her arms and legs harder. I shoot my "3 days of no action" load inside of her. It felt great! We embrace for about 1 or 2 minutes after the act before the alarm goes off and she helps clean me and her up. The alarm is when I realized in my head "Wow I guess I spent a longer time in DATY than I thought. " as I am usually a 2-3 pop guy. I should have booked a 90 minute. I kind of wanted to get another pop out and extend the time, but I had work related obligations to run out to right after the session, so I didn't really even have the option to ask to extend the time. She turned off the alarm and we laid down on the bed for a little bit just to embrace and chat about random things before going for a clean up shower.Yeah good shit bro! I almost missed it. Like animals house today on here! Post that to her 1010 profile!
Seems like there was a few glitch / lags on our end with recent duds too LOL, but with both premium wagyus making their comeback, this winter doesn't seem too dull yet LOL.I got both on schedule upcoming. I'm just waiting for the day they show up at one location my dick is going to be so confused to which direction to go LOL.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 18:32
Exactly, that's why I was saying it's the shills and simps that are brainwashing the girls. They're probably feeding them stuff like "I'm VIP and write a lot of reviews, you shouldn't lower prices but if you give me $20-40 discount I'll help you out" or however they work I have no idea. My success rate of seeing a girl on day 1 is 90% vs day 3+ which is a 50/50 coin flip. And it could also be the long standing girls who say "don't budge from 100/200" because they are flexible themselves UTR to get that business from the new girls. If it was up to me, if my sources don't tell me a girl is flexi and it's day 3++ I won't visit the girl. I would rather coin flip day 1-2 than to coin flip days 3+, statistics show most people aren't willing to TOFTT on new girls, the ones that do are either 1. Credible mongers or 2. Shills aka you have your coin flip.
Disclaimer: I have no real intel, but this is me projecting business trends as I am a business owner of 4 businesses. This is just what I'm seeing and it's the same as any business, stay competitive to stay relevant that's all it is.Spot on homie, theres also one other type of simp / shill factor:
They claim to have senior ranks online and didn't bother negotiations and instead, over-tip / funding the chicks very well for egofreak purposes then writes back online about "discounts / freebies etc" for misleading intentions which is aka "2 faced snake" that ruined the chicks into jadey game and making it a lot more challenging for us on freebies cas chicks already color coded with "tips" from "2 faced shill / simp". And its these shillsimps that white knight guards certain wagyus into attacking other clients and eventually some of those white knights got banned from some shops (theres a few of them, you know who are you LOL; laughing stock).
IronClad999
11-03-23, 18:35
I got both on schedule upcoming. I'm just waiting for the day they show up at one location my dick is going to be so confused to which direction to go LOL.Easy resolve is to bang both same time and leave the riddle / puzzle game to the wagyus to figure out cas its their "job" LOLOL.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 18:37
Yeah good shit bro! I almost missed it. Like animals house today on here! Post that to her 1010 profile!Large cattle to squeeze milk and juice LOL, pretty sure theres going to be a city of lineup waiting to sample that snowy pussy soon LOLOL.
Easy resolve is to bang both same time and leave the riddle / puzzle game to the wagyus to figure out cas its their "job" LOLOL.A double!? You just blew my mind! LOL.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 18:46
A double!? You just blew my mind! LOL.Play super smash bros brawl / melee with both of them; tag, tami's it!
Play super smash bros brawl / melee with both of them; tag, tami's it!Snow told me they don't do that but Tami today said she's all up for it. LOL I might get slapped by one girl and kissed by the other.
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BloodHounds
11-03-23, 19:35
So what happens now? Did they clean it up or what? I hope they called the cops on this Leroy guy.
Thanks for letting us know man! I don't need this kind of shit or attention when I am looking for a quick lay.
I jerked off today instead. Saved money and potential embarrassment.
Leroy came to SE last night and broke the glass screen door with a brick spray painted the cameras and wrote 'brothal' in spray paint on the wall outside the shop. I see this ending badly for him.
Did they catch him? I hope they got him! This is so fucked up beyond imagination.
IronClad999
11-03-23, 20:00
Face game looks neat, need the full body image to project the kinky affections;.
$230/30 Mins.
$280/45 Mins.
$340/60 Mins.
DrunkenKid
11-03-23, 21:08
Yes, heard that's the case. I think DK wrote it mid November when I said I won't see her because she has a Bush. Maybe there is still hope.Nov 10th. The clock is running. I'm currently hungover AF waiting for a plane back to NY. I will hit up Meg when I get back, to see what she wants in order to shave it all off. I didn't plan to bang FakeBPLisa again but I am committed to #NBC.
RazGrizace00
11-03-23, 22:26
Try again, I thought you got verified one some place already? Tell them you can get a referral. That should work.
Yeah, I got verified at 1010 referrals from NYAF and Metrogirls. I will try again in the morning.
VidLover69
11-04-23, 00:28
So the forum isn't just about Tami or Javlur / Ewe's flame war, here is my take on Noa at SE (aka Demi at PP).
The best reason to see Noa is her amazing, almost gravity defying E cups. They are truly wow and for titty fans, those all natural, fun bags alone are worth the price of admission.
For everything else, it's a bit meh. Service was unenthusiastic but passable. Her face isn't nearly as cute as the posted pics. So if the posted pic is a 8. 5, IRL it is a 6. 5-7. She is firm on her extras which includes CIM (yeah, CIM is extra for her).
So overall, Noa is probably worthwhile for a hhr to enjoy those titties while banging her with some 001's. Unless of course, you really are a titty aficionado, then pay up and make a video.
RazGrizace00
11-04-23, 07:15
So the forum isn't just about Tami or Javlur / Ewe's flame war, here is my take on Noa at SE (aka Demi at PP).
The best reason to see Noa is her amazing, almost gravity defying E cups. They are truly wow and for titty fans, those all natural, fun bags alone are worth the price of admission.
For everything else, it's a bit meh. Service was unenthusiastic but passable. Her face isn't nearly as cute as the posted pics. So if the posted pic is a 8. 5, IRL it is a 6. 5-7. She is firm on her extras which includes CIM (yeah, CIM is extra for her).
So overall, Noa is probably worthwhile for a hhr to enjoy those titties while banging her with some 001's. Unless of course, you really are a titty aficionado, then pay up and make a video.With all the Tami hype does she do video?
With all the Tami hype does she do video?Nope, she's not a video gal.
RazGrizace00
11-04-23, 07:44
Nope, she's not a video gal.Aww that's too bad. But she is really hot so I might take a stab if she is not fully booked. Thanks!
IronClad999
11-04-23, 08:17
Another pure tofu hairyduck on the yoga game list; she was former rebrand as "Kaya SL / DDY".
Pre cashtag:
280/ hh.
340/45 mins.
380/ h.
Now at xo:
$230/30 Mins.
$280/45 Mins.
$340/60 Mins.
Xxx: 387901.
Time to make some excavation game soon LOL.
IronClad999
11-04-23, 08:18
Face and body game looks juicy and creamy;.
$240/30 Mins.
$300/45 Mins.
$360/60 Mins.
IronClad999
11-04-23, 08:19
Seems familiar from one of the spots in flushy (prettyyukinyc) before and now got upgraded which usually is a good sign for piledriver game;.
$230/30 Mins.
$280/45 Mins.
$340/60 Mins.
IronClad999
11-04-23, 08:21
So the forum isn't just about Tami or Javlur / Ewe's flame war, here is my take on Noa at SE (aka Demi at PP).
The best reason to see Noa is her amazing, almost gravity defying E cups. They are truly wow and for titty fans, those all natural, fun bags alone are worth the price of admission.
For everything else, it's a bit meh. Service was unenthusiastic but passable. Her face isn't nearly as cute as the posted pics. So if the posted pic is a 8. 5, IRL it is a 6. 5-7. She is firm on her extras which includes CIM (yeah, CIM is extra for her).
So overall, Noa is probably worthwhile for a hhr to enjoy those titties while banging her with some 001's. Unless of course, you really are a titty aficionado, then pay up and make a video.She was worthwhile for young wagyu doll vid; saw her multiple times on same day cas she's pretty submissive and likes to accommodate; no attitudes nor anything negative which is another keeper. Flexy on cip game too when she was at ppc, but might be a bit more firmy now. She's meltable on chest and daty game, iykyk.
IronClad999
11-04-23, 08:23
It looks like she might have some geisha vibes; face and body not bad.
$240/30 minutes.
$300/45 minutes.
$360/60 minutes.
IronClad999
11-04-23, 09:29
Sometimes girls click with you so well if the hat busted they don't want you to stop giving them the good stuff just to redress. Nicely done to melt Mariko's heart IC.Thanks bud, if she ever returns to NYC I might consider more patrons cas her GFE game is on point and better than half of the wagyus in the city. Cheers.
IronClad999
11-04-23, 09:38
MLE Suyen update. No PSE per website.She could be another may1010 with gatekeeper LOL; pics look ok with mod charm game.
RazGrizace00
11-04-23, 09:42
OK boys, I am verified at XOXO, NYCSmilingeyes, Tenten. I'm aiming for Aoi for video and Tami for the hype. But I would love any other suggestions for video if Aoi leaves early or any suggestions are great, thanks.
IronClad999
11-04-23, 09:44
I'm pretty new to the NYC / East coast scene, but am a vet in California and especially in SF Bay. I don't think you are going to get price drops during the current glut of providers. You are much more likely to get either a more open menu from some girls (2 girl shows, Greek) or what you are seeing now, which is girls trying to show the illusion of scarcity by only working in one place for a short time and then moving to a different city or moving to another org under a different name. Most guys like novelty and are far more likely to see the new hotness vs the known quantity, unless it's a stunner that gives good service who can essentially name her own price because her dance card is going to be full regardless.
To use economic terms, I think the $460/560 price is relatively inelastic not (only) because of the simps but because Jgirls that are giving BB service in a soapland in Kyushuu where the yen is in the toilet hear through word of mouth that they could be making the going rate and are on the first plane to JFK, only to have to compete with every other girl that's done the same along with the existing cast of Kgirls and Cgirls.
I doubt prices will drop much because you aren't going to get simps or anyone else to freeze out these girls, or turn down the upcharge.Thanks for the great shares man, back to back between west and east games, if wagyus eventually conquers and overwhelms the kgirl market (most are milfys / grannies nowadays with most peeps couldn't tell behind their mileage makeups LOL), its going to be oversaturation and price menus will stagger with many choppy ranges (the really popular wagyus can prob even charge indie rates and still maintain volume cas of simps / shills). With japans economy game nowadays, more wagyus will dash overseas to compensate that coin gap difference which can be favorable for us or tread downhill depending on how the community handles it (yes, paying full mrsp and over tipping will just crash the market into depression and possibly derail folks to resume back on kgirls or cgirls) hard to have win win if majority wants to play the "gentleman spoil" game, iykyk. Appreciate the info meiji.
IronClad999
11-04-23, 10:24
https://risingsun8.com/view/290
You were saying? She coulda been had for 140/30 m LOL.
She's at r8 now we all missed our chance to bang for cheap haha.If she doesn't last long here, she might rebound back to prettyyuki in flushy LOL; unless she learns her valuable skillset in the right spot (pics doesn't look too bad); to each their own flavors.
Jav is just saying what many are thinking.
Demi was decent and new at PPC. Maybe she has gotten comfortable. I am surprised her price is lower now. The extra for CIM is strange. GFE house doesn't do that.
So the forum isn't just about Tami or Javlur / Ewe's flame war, here is my take on Noa at SE (aka Demi at PP).
The best reason to see Noa is her amazing, almost gravity defying E cups. They are truly wow and for titty fans, those all natural, fun bags alone are worth the price of admission.
For everything else, it's a bit meh. Service was unenthusiastic but passable. Her face isn't nearly as cute as the posted pics. So if the posted pic is a 8. 5, IRL it is a 6. 5-7. She is firm on her extras which includes CIM (yeah, CIM is extra for her).
So overall, Noa is probably worthwhile for a hhr to enjoy those titties while banging her with some 001's. Unless of course, you really are a titty aficionado, then pay up and make a video.
https://risingsun8.com/view/290
You were saying? She coulda been had for 140/30 m LOL.
She's at r8 now we all missed our chance to bang for cheap haha.There is currently a Momoko on the PrettyYuki website that looks like someone that is here or was here in Manhattan. Her price is $140 for 30-minutes; $240 for 30-minutes GFE. It seems the GFE service at Pretty Yuki is similar to GFE Manhattan pricing. If you don't want GFE, then you can go cheaper at PrettyYuki.
CreaminThePie
11-04-23, 11:03
https://www.prettyyukinyc.com/view/439
Another girl that was at XOXO I believe for 360 hr (correct me if I'm wrong) can be had for a discount at yuki FH. Scheduled to leave Nov 5th? Don't miss your opportunity!
https://twitter.com/XOXOGirlsNY/status/1720425602984112167
MLE Suyen update. No PSE per website.That's too bad. In my mental list of girls I want to see when I'm in town soon, she was near the top of the list. She appears to look a lot like JAV girl Eri Ouka. No PSE offered is probably going to be a deal breaker for me with all the other hot girls working right now.
Kisaki R8 https://risingsun8.com/view/291 - late arrival. One of the pics showed her tits with tats. Other pics have tats so I think it's her real body with big nips for your milkers.
Karen XO https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/443 - nice pussy. Very cute looking on the pics on the petite side.
MLE NJ Rika https://myluxeescape.com/content/?7 - looks cute too, 5'5 not a petite girl but weight distribution looks good. Giving me Ichika vibes.
Laura PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/laura - last few pics face look different but probably just weird angles.
Moved
Added
Suyen 1010 https://10tenclub.com/view/443 - now offers PSE when Meji saw her listed.
Omakase
Miyu 1010 - Snow white. Well, she's not tall so you won't be her dwarf. you can pretend to be her prince I guess.
Tami SE. Top hot girl all around.
Karen XO - pics are actually very cute
Kisaki R8 ? - nice tits indeed. I do like them pink and smaller nips and areola usually.
Jenny 1010 - top hot tattoos girl. Still a nice one to try and unlikely to bang a girl with a large tat so it's a check off of whatever list you might have.
Laura PPC? -- not near the top 3 though.
Rika MLE. If people don't mind crossing the river. The teeth totally remind me of a girl named Ichika from long ago
That's too bad. In my mental list of girls I want to see when I'm in town soon, she was near the top of the list. She appears to look a lot like JAV girl Eri Ouka. No PSE offered is probably going to be a deal breaker for me with all the other hot girls working right now.She's already gone from the site. Replaced by another who looked younger.
The surprised no PSE is def rare among J-girls. Some times they simply forgot the pills and don't know where to get them so they don't go bare.
Nov 10th. The clock is running. I'm currently hungover AF waiting for a plane back to NY. I will hit up Meg when I get back, to see what she wants in order to shave it all off. I didn't plan to bang FakeBPLisa again but I am committed to #NBC.#NBC only and clock will run out on her. I don't have much interest right now on her. LOL.
VidLover69
11-04-23, 12:30
OK boys, I am verified at XOXO, NYCSmilingeyes, Tenten. I'm aiming for Aoi for video and Tami for the hype. But I would love any other suggestions for video if Aoi leaves early or any suggestions are great, thanks.Tami is 100% not open to video. No negotiation. Just 'no'. I tried in-person and she made it very clear that it's not on the table. So my suggestion is to see Tami for the experience and leave your video gear behind.
There are other jgirls that offer video in manhattan (see my previous posts) but other than Aoi, none that I would recommend for a newbie video experience.
Outside of jggirls, if you are around Nov 12th to Nov 14th, Christie Lamour will be in town. Latina MILF offering standard GFE. 550/ hr+150 video (no BBFS. If you ask about BBFS, she will most likely block you). Super video friendly and she will give you directions on how to do it right if she thinks you are not doing it right. She tours a lot too.
She was worthwhile for young wagyu doll vid; saw her multiple times on same day cas she's pretty submissive and likes to accommodate; no attitudes nor anything negative which is another keeper. Flexy on cip game too when she was at ppc, but might be a bit more firmy now. She's meltable on chest and daty game, iykyk.
Jav is just saying what many are thinking.
Demi was decent and new at PPC. Maybe she has gotten comfortable. I am surprised her price is lower now. The extra for CIM is strange. GFE house doesn't do that.IC / Ryanlar, did you guys see her when she first showed up at WSD / PP? If so, that might explain the difference. Also, she could be taking a hard line on extras since she is charging lower on the base. Or maybe I'm just not as young or charming as you casanovas.
What I can say for sure is that I saw her this past week and I stand 100% behind what I wrote. I tell it 'as is' guys and my previous posts show that. And it definitely was her (aka Demi). I asked and she confirmed it. So I'm not questioning your good times with her, but I am saying I saw her recently and I found her to be meh other than her titties. Those milkers do look spectacular on the replay.
What I can say for sure is that I saw her this past week and I stand 100% behind what I wrote. I tell it 'as is' guys and my previous posts show that. And it definitely was her (aka Demi). I asked and she confirmed it. So I'm not questioning your good times with her, but I am saying I saw her recently and I found her to be meh other than her titties. Those milkers do look spectacular on the replay.There are certainly times when 99% of mongers will love a girl and you and her may not click for whatever reason.
NYAF Zoey has great reviews and my first session with her last year was not good. Limited GFE kissing, service and attitude.
I thought it was a fluke and tried her again recently. Same limited GFE kissing, service and attitude.
My worst session ever but everyone else loves her.
Never a loss since there are plenty of other girls to throw your money away at LOL.
IronClad999
11-04-23, 12:52
IC / Ryanlar, did you guys see her when she first showed up at WSD / PP? If so, that might explain the difference. Also, she could be taking a hard line on extras since she is charging lower on the base. Or maybe I'm just not as young or charming as you casanovas.
What I can say for sure is that I saw her this past week and I stand 100% behind what I wrote. I tell it 'as is' guys and my previous posts show that. And it definitely was her (aka Demi). I asked and she confirmed it. So I'm not questioning your good times with her, but I am saying I saw her recently and I found her to be meh other than her titties. Those milkers do look spectacular on the replay.This was my whole multiple banging exp with her back on the week of 10/19;.
http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26902-BBFS-Providers-Manhattan&p=6644744&highlight=demi+ppc#post6644744.
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Maybe she's slowly jaded but not crazy heavy depending on our individuals charmy game vid69; cas when I saw her multiple times within few hrs back to back on her first few days, she only had about few clients here and there but they showed up late and she was happy but same time started asking more on cip after already warmed up (yes, she was almost 99% freebie with chest / daty pussy melting game; that's a testament to individual A game skills). The multiple times after the 1st visit wasnt as thrilling cas of the greenies (she still prefers to collect tickets upfront with polite manners). She wasnt really gaining much revenues on the week when daria joined the team. I'm thinking she's either outpaced or demotivated then slowly wanting lower price but better volumes + firmy tickets. Her skills werent spectacular but signature phrase is her youth game (fresh to bang and eat). She could be semi-jaded based on your recent exp vid, or she's just depressed or simply got some other things going on that affects her performance. Her face game with mild crooked bunny teeth kinda killed my boner game so I'm not motivated to screen her double milky racks anytime soon LOL.
She's already gone from the site. Replaced by another who looked younger.
The surprised no PSE is def rare among J-girls. Some times they simply forgot the pills and don't know where to get them so they don't go bare.Suyen now at Top Ten and offering 'extras with tips'. More and more curious. https://10tenclub.com/view/443.
Suyen now at Top Ten and offering 'extras with tips'. More and more curious. https://10tenclub.com/view/443.Haha. Odd indeed. No PSE in NJ but PSE in Manhattan. Maybe it's "required" to offer PSE in manhattan.
Haha. Odd indeed. No PSE in NJ but PSE in Manhattan. Maybe it's "required" to offer PSE in manhattan.Just confirmed with the MMS at 1010. She just asked Suyen and they said that she doesn't offer extras. So the description is an error.
Just confirmed with the MMS at 1010. She just asked Suyen and they said that she doesn't offer extras. So the description is an error.Sometimes the PPS / MMS lie and go by the profile and say they asked. Because actually asking the girl requires more work LOL.
Just confirmed with the MMS at 1010. She just asked Suyen and they said that she doesn't offer extras. So the description is an error.Yup, just updated to "GFE is great. No pse".
RazGrizace00
11-04-23, 14:37
Tami is 100% not open to video. No negotiation. Just 'no'. I tried in-person and she made it very clear that it's not on the table. So my suggestion is to see Tami for the experience and leave your video gear behind.
There are other jgirls that offer video in manhattan (see my previous posts) but other than Aoi, none that I would recommend for a newbie video experience.
Outside of jggirls, if you are around Nov 12th to Nov 14th, Christie Lamour will be in town. Latina MILF offering standard GFE. 550/ hr+150 video (no BBFS. If you ask about BBFS, she will most likely block you). Super video friendly and she will give you directions on how to do it right if she thinks you are not doing it right. She tours a lot too.
IC / Ryanlar, did you guys see her when she first showed up at WSD / PP? If so, that might explain the difference. Also, she could be taking a hard line on extras since she is charging lower on the base. Or maybe I'm just not as young or charming as you casanovas.
What I can say for sure is that I saw her this past week and I stand 100% behind what I wrote. I tell it 'as is' guys and my previous posts show that. And it definitely was her (aka Demi). I asked and she confirmed it. So I'm not questioning your good times with her, but I am saying I saw her recently and I found her to be meh other than her titties. Those milkers do look spectacular on the replay.Thanks again. I just want to see Tami for the experience, read good reviews and I like her looks. I can't afford 2 video sessions but Aoi is top of my list. There are some offerings in Flushing for latina BBFS so I'm going to try there. If not, I have plenty of other options that I will be happy with.
Looking to go see someone on Monday. Have the taste for a young Japanese girl with fatty pussy. Big lump to suck on. Had my eye on Akari but her reviews aren't very good. She needs to be nympho. Ill make nice review for any suggestions.
Visited Noa "Demi" last night and her service was pretty unremarkable I wouldn't repeat and for the premium rates the NYC girls are going for I expect better. It was the end of the night and the timing could be a factor, but if that's the case then stop taking appointments after a certain time (I almost think she was taking a nap when I showed up).
It started with the usual greeting in the room but nothing special on her end (really warm inside with heat on blast) lfk and asked for donations before going to the shower (glad I only did hh).
In the shower same thing business like treatment nothing special, no bbj preview even after getting scrubbed and the lystersine toast, light fiv but nothing more.
Back in the room I asked her to lay down for daty which felt dry and odorless (odorless vag isn't always a good thing iykyk). She has a small vag and very close to her asterisk so I licked them both very well to get her juices going while rubbing her nips and it worked. Speaking of nips she's got nice tits DDs which look big on her but not huge, complained of her left nips hurting after sucking for some time (not even rough or aggressive sucking). After I felt she was wet I initiated lfk leading to dfk with some p2 p, switching from nipple sucking to dfk and slowly more p2 p spreading her lips getting the head in slowly. She felt pretty wet and was still tight getting the head in and before I could sneak all the way in she stops me and asks for extras. Negotiations didn't go in my favor and decided to wrap it but before I could reach my 001 she opened one of her own which surprisingly looked pretty thin so I went with it but not before she insisted on some lube (I asked to only use very little).
Bc of negotiations I went soft and required some bbj b4 wrapping it up and she just looked at me like a lost puppy until I did hand signals for her to do it.
Started with mish, very tight going in but less all the way in (strange anatomy) after 5 min flipped her and went K9 but she couldn't handle my full thrust and started dropping her hips if I tried to go all in which was a turn off. At one point she dropped her hips I followed her and laid on top of her thrusting all the way in until I filled the bag. I declined the shower and after clean up she was ready to kick me out with short of 10 minutes left (I wasn't feeling her vibes so I nutted faster than usual) but after pointing out how much time we had left I asked for a massage which she accepted to do and wasn't all that bad. Noa is friendly, but I'm not a simp looking for friends in a place like that, it's about the service and she didn't offer much of it.
Looks: 6.
Body: 6.
BBJ: 2
Service: 5.
Coms: Poor English, uses phone translator
Negotiations: Hard 100/200 (she gives the go to atm and come back option lmao).
Wish you had posted this sooner and saved me the trip last night LOL.
Noa = meh.
So the forum isn't just about Tami or Javlur / Ewe's flame war, here is my take on Noa at SE (aka Demi at PP).
The best reason to see Noa is her amazing, almost gravity defying E cups. They are truly wow and for titty fans, those all natural, fun bags alone are worth the price of admission.
For everything else, it's a bit meh. Service was unenthusiastic but passable. Her face isn't nearly as cute as the posted pics. So if the posted pic is a 8. 5, IRL it is a 6. 5-7. She is firm on her extras which includes CIM (yeah, CIM is extra for her).
So overall, Noa is probably worthwhile for a hhr to enjoy those titties while banging her with some 001's. Unless of course, you really are a titty aficionado, then pay up and make a video.
There are certainly times when 99% of mongers will love a girl and you and her may not click for whatever reason.
NYAF Zoey has great reviews and my first session with her last year was not good. Limited GFE kissing, service and attitude.
I thought it was a fluke and tried her again recently. Same limited GFE kissing, service and attitude.
My worst session ever but everyone else loves her.
Never a loss since there are plenty of other girls to throw your money away at LOL.Wow, Zoey is super GFE and probably the best kisser of anyone in my entire life (not an exaggeration, I can kiss her for hours). I guess it's part connection and YMMV. My buddy also did not like his time with her but she is on my repeat list for at least once a month or two (I also don't get to AMPs very often).
VidLover69
11-04-23, 19:12
Visited Noa "Demi" last night and her service was pretty unremarkable I wouldn't repeat and for the premium rates the NYC girls are going for I expect better. It was the end of the night and the timing could be a factor, but if that's the case then stop taking appointments after a certain time (I almost think she was taking a nap when I showed up).
Negotiations: Hard 100/200 (she gives the go to atm and come back option lmao).Sounds like you had a similar 'meh' experience like me. It could have been worse like my session with kayo. That was a bloody mess (pun intended).
Wow, Zoey is super GFE and probably the best kisser of anyone in my entire life (not an exaggeration, I can kiss her for hours). I guess it's part connection and YMMV. My buddy also did not like his time with her but she is on my repeat list for at least once a month or two (I also don't get to AMPs very often).Does Zoey offer BBFS?
Sounds like you had a similar 'meh' experience like me. It could have been worse like my session with kayo. That was a bloody mess (pun intended).
Does Zoey offer BBFS?Oh hell no, a bloody experience would scar me for life lmao.
Hi guys, any recommendations on a young horny jap girl with a fatty pussy? I'm trying to go Monday and am thinking about Akari, looks like she might have a thick one, but the reviews aren't so good. Any suggestions would be great. Ill make a good review of my experience.
IronClad999
11-04-23, 23:36
New jellyfish popped up;.
$230/30 Mins.
$280/45 Mins.
$340/60 Mins.
Face looks like pussycat waiting for drilljackhammer game LOL.
IronClad999
11-04-23, 23:38
The former soap opera queen has made her stage comeback for karaoke games;.
$240/30 Mins.
$300/45 Mins.
$360/60 Mins.
Another screaming game pending soon LOL.
Wow, Zoey is super GFE and probably the best kisser of anyone in my entire life (not an exaggeration, I can kiss her for hours). I guess it's part connection and YMMV. My buddy also did not like his time with her but she is on my repeat list for at least once a month or two (I also don't get to AMPs very often).I hit up an AMP every 3 days with over 100 visits thus far. I certainly recognize bad GFE and attitude when I experience it. We actually argued over her limited kissing. Zoey said you pay me so I kiss you. Tried again. No change. Got up dressed 15 minutes into a 30 minute. Session. Don't need this garabge. MMS offered a discount. I declined. Told her I will not be back for awhile.
Hey guys, I'm on the hunt for a young horny jap girl that has a fat pussy or at least gets extremely wet. I'm planning to go visit Monday. Ill write a detailed review after I go.
The former soap opera queen has made her stage comeback for karaoke games;.
$240/30 Mins.
$300/45 Mins.
$360/60 Mins.
Another screaming game pending soon LOL.Which one of the BBFS youngins has the fattest pussy. I'm looking to give her a good licking and then cream all in her fat pussy and watch it ooze out. Any recommendations would be great. Ill post a nice review.
The former soap opera queen has made her stage comeback for karaoke games;.
$240/30 Mins.
$300/45 Mins.
$360/60 Mins.
Another screaming game pending soon LOL.Soap opera queen?
IronClad999
11-05-23, 08:35
Soap opera queen?Soprano moans too in bed or anywhere LOL.
CreaminThePie
11-05-23, 08:39
New jellyfish popped up;.
$230/30 Mins.
$280/45 Mins.
$340/60 Mins.
Face looks like pussycat waiting for drilljackhammer game LOL.Anyone seen her yet? Face looks cute and body looks pale and soft.
The former soap opera queen has made her stage comeback for karaoke games;.
$240/30 Mins.
$300/45 Mins.
$360/60 Mins.
Another screaming game pending soon LOL.Wow she's lasted this long without snipe attack so far! What has it been 2 hours?
IronClad999
11-05-23, 10:26
Wow she's lasted this long without snipe attack so far! What has it been 2 hours?She prob going to text a bunch of her loyalfanbase for her "terminator catchy return phrase" and maybe ask for a microphone this time LOL.
Bree PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/bree - looks alright.
Omakase.
Tami SE.
Miyu 1010.
Jenny 1010.
Nothing of high interest. Deleted a couple of candidates.
Genghis Dong
11-05-23, 11:03
I wanted to bang her the f out and she disappeared before I had the chance.
Does anyone have intel on links to her videos? TIA.
Does anyone have intel on links to her videos? TIA.Yeah, I found a few a few days ago. I do like the microspinner type sometimes. She worked under 'Suzu-chan' but also under Chinami Moriyama (apparently this site eats Kanji). Have your popup blockers ready, as always JAV sites are annoying.
https://www4.javhdporn.net/video/ktkz-100/ (full service / censored).
https://javcv.com/movie/548201/TSDS-42623 (solo modeling).
Yeah, I found a few a few days ago. I do like the microspinner type sometimes. She worked under 'Suzu-chan' but also under Chinami Moriyama (apparently this site eats Kanji). Have your popup blockers ready, as always JAV sites are annoying.
https://www4.javhdporn.net/video/ktkz-100/ (full service / censored).
https://javcv.com/movie/548201/TSDS-42623 (solo modeling).She filling a niche I'm not looking to be filled LOL.
VidLover69
11-05-23, 16:26
She filling a niche I'm not looking to be filled LOL.If you mean the daddy-daughter hentai niche, she definitely fits the bill.
RS8 Erina 30-minutes $230.
Random thoughts.
BBFS Ask 200; declined.
Absolutely zero business for Erina and she lamented and moped around about no business a few times. If fact. I woke her up mid afternoon.
Cute and sweet GND.
Limited GFE to kissing after all the preliminaries like donation, shower, etc.
More into HJ than BJJJ even in 69.
Condom game is zero in mish.
Spent most of. Time in 69 with no finish.
Clock watcher 10 minutes.
Offered to repeat if she dropped her upcharge. She laughed. I laughed as well LOL.
Vaped once at end of session.
GFE game is weak so difficult to recommend.
As usual, I do not repeat if girl upcharges me for BBFS.
IronClad999
11-05-23, 17:48
New paag hottie wagyu popped up!
$230/30 Mins.
$280/45 Mins.
$340/60 Mins.
Face game and body looks super smokey bomberino that needs some grindarino game! LOLOL.
IronClad999
11-05-23, 17:59
Slimy gucci model in the potential makings; ready for some juicy bangs soon LOL;.
$230/30 Mins.
$280/45 Mins.
$340/60 Mins.
If you mean the daddy-daughter hentai niche, she definitely fits the bill.Yeah nah I'm good with the daughter / schoolgirl thing. 😂.
IronClad999
11-05-23, 19:54
Yeah nah I'm good with the daughter / schoolgirl thing. 😂.Diff level of fetish and maybe some loli's too LOL.
Does Zoey offer BBFS?With Zoey YMMV.
With Zoey YMMV.Zoey may also be very YMMV Greek as well.
Saw one TER review but do not know if it is credible.
One of the girls who I fucked in the ass also said a couple of times that I should fuck Zoey in the ass.
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Seriously, you just posted that you knew I created a thread for stupid shit like this and you STILL posted it on a review thread which are for "healthy discussion among adults."
Seriously? I hope you think it was worth the cost.
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Genghis Dong
11-05-23, 21:32
Diff level of fetish and maybe some loli's too LOL.I am going to be all over those titties. I love being a big oaf next to these little J Sluts.
The Admin has graciously opened a stupid shit rant for you to join your friend Javluvr there. Don't wait up on me there I'm all about the healthy discussion amongst grownups which some can't seem to handle. And you can also tell the Admin how much you disagree with giving us contributor editing and deletion abilities while you're there.Why's there so many people hitting the ignore button on each other? Honestly if someone had an issue with me I would man it out and defend myself. By avoiding the healthy discussion and hitting the ignore button, just makes you look suspicious.
Anywho, someone I've been eyeing for a while has finally came back to NYC to pull me out into the wild. I'll report back on my thoughts.
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VidLover69
11-06-23, 00:04
Zoey may also be very YMMV Greek as well.
Saw one TER review but do not know if it is credible.
One of the girls who I fucked in the ass also said a couple of times that I should fuck Zoey in the ass.So I take this to mean that she might give it up to LT repeat customers to get them coming back. Or am I missing something?
StinkyFeet
11-06-23, 01:43
Zoey may also be very YMMV Greek as well.
Saw one TER review but do not know if it is credible.
One of the girls who I fucked in the ass also said a couple of times that I should fuck Zoey in the ass.Not sure if I I actually saw Zoey, but after waiting for about forty minutes and rejecting a few of their of the other staff, eventually (I think) I saw her (eventually I walked out, didn't think she was worth the price), was offered the entire menu including Greek for additional tip. I forgot what the fee was since it was last year.
So I take this to mean that she might give it up to LT repeat customers to get them coming back. Or am I missing something?I have not tried so I do not know under what circumstances Zoey would give her ass up.
Other girls have given up their ass to me simply because they liked me and I expressed an interest in Greek.
Just because you are LT does not mean they like you enough to give you perks.
IronClad999
11-06-23, 07:38
Seems like rika mle has rotated over from NJ, cute face and body looks edible hehe LOL;.
$230/30 Mins.
$280/45 Mins.
$340/60 Mins.
Looks like a yummy neko appetizer.
IronClad999
11-06-23, 07:40
Body can trigger boner game easily LOL;.
$230/30 Mins.
$280/45 Mins.
$340/60 Mins.
IronClad999
11-06-23, 07:45
Face and body game looks super bangable LOL;.
$240/30 Mins.
$320/45 Mins.
$380/60 Mins.
Not sure about personality yet cas usually 380 or steeper chicks are jaded already LOL.
Why's there so many people hitting the ignore button on each other? Honestly if someone had an issue with me I would man it out and defend myself. By avoiding the healthy discussion and hitting the ignore button, just makes you look suspicious.
Anywho, someone I've been eyeing for a while has finally came back to NYC to pull me out into the wild. I'll report back on my thoughts.A healthy discussion is key. Beyond that, I would not waste time with bs.
IronClad999
11-06-23, 08:02
Seems like she's in PA flushy now rebranded as "Asuka" in case anyones interested.
So I take this to mean that she might give it up to LT repeat customers to get them coming back. Or am I missing something?Not sure if first response went through.
I do not know her YMMV criteria. In my experience, perks come because they like you and obviously want you to come back. Not the number of times you have visited. Those are the girls that make you earn their perks. I do not visit these girls.
Not sure about personality yet cas usually 380 or steeper chicks are jaded already LOL.Cheaper girls with limited GFE and no business coming in the door like RS8 Erina can be jaded as well. Still wants 200 for BBFS.
Hina SE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/607 - was just in NJ.
Tomoe SE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/606 - same as the famed sushi place that changed ownership.
Moka SE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/605.
Maika PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/maika.
Ayala XO https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/445.
Bree PPC open for greek... innocent girl doing greece trips.
I wanted to bang her the f out and she disappeared before I had the chance.Went to DC then gone West.
1010 Rose https://10tenclub.com/view/409 - she's back, forgot her other name at PPC.
Hina SE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/607 - was just in NJ.
Tomoe SE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/606 - same as the famed sushi place that changed ownership.
Moka SE https://nycsmilingeyes.com/view/605.
Maika PPC https://www.pleasure-palace.club/maika.
Ayala XO https://xoxogirlsny.com/view/445.
Bree PPC open for greek... innocent girl doing greece trips.
I have not tried so I do not know under what circumstances Zoey would give her ass up.
Other girls have given up their ass to me simply because they liked me and I expressed an interest in Greek.
Just because you are LT does not mean they like you enough to give you perks.If the girl doesn't normally give it up, She may not have her hygiene kept up to date for the visit to Greece. One time a surprise visit to Greece yielded a dirty smelly condom. It was a bit of a turn actually.
Wiped up, covered up again and went back to regular Vag Island after but the boner was affected haha.
1010 Rose https://10tenclub.com/view/409 - she's back, forgot her other name at PPC.https://www.pleasure-palace.club/kelly - name was Kelly at PPC. Javluvr said he had a good time with her. Mixed reviews on her service tho. She might be a bit jaded. A lot of rebrand/rotations
If the girl doesn't normally give it up, She may not have her hygiene kept up to date for the visit to Greece. One time a surprise visit to Greece yielded a dirty smelly condom. It was a bit of a turn actually.
Wiped up, covered up again and went back to regular Vag Island after but the boner was affected haha.There is always that risk with any type of ass play including FIA that a lot of folks do.
IronClad999
11-06-23, 11:05
Cheaper girls with limited GFE and no business coming in the door like RS8 Erina can be jaded as well. Still wants 200 for BBFS.Just saw your exp with her; I think she was in NYC and toured other states before too but keeps rebranding so its a great hint. Sometimes we got to remind the chicks firmy200 will LIKELY destroy their revenues. Thanks jedi.
CreaminThePie
11-06-23, 11:22
https://risingsun8.com/view/292
Aria R8 is back for another tour. She is a throat goat!
Genghis Dong
11-06-23, 11:58
Seems like rika mle has rotated over from NJ, cute face and body looks edible hehe LOL;.
$230/30 Mins.
$280/45 Mins.
$340/60 Mins.
Looks like a yummy neko appetizer.Does she look like that? Seems my type. And she knows how to do BBFS.
A healthy discussion is key. Beyond that, I would not waste time with bs.Exactly, say your piece and if a healthy discussion cannot be formed then simply don't respond. But making a blatant response of "ignore list" without attempting to have a healthy discussion screams suspicion. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, but I've been seeing this a lot lately across 2 other forums. When hard facts (proof) are provided and a discussion can not be resolved then it makes the person in question suspicious.
It's not a coincidence that I've been noticing more of this, lots of shills / simps across all forums are pushing a particular girl because the shops are snail pace business right now. There's no way in hell that 10+ people are getting the same exact service and quality from the same girl. Everyone has different tastes and different YMMV, it should be a 70% positivity rate at best. I personally have tried some of the "hype" girls and it was nothing like everyone claimed it to be. Now I just go based on my YMMV and who I think is attractive, because truth be told it's a 50/50 that I find the girls to be attractive of what everyone thinks anyways. For example: everyone thinks Helen NYAF is hot when I saw her I thought she was just average, I would put her and Allyssa SL in the same category, Kylie DDY I would say is a step above them but my UTR girls triumph all three. There are some popular jgirls that are pushed and I bet some guys would also agree with me.
IronClad999
11-06-23, 13:24
Exactly, say your piece and if a healthy discussion cannot be formed then simply don't respond. But making a blatant response of "ignore list" without attempting to have a healthy discussion screams suspicion. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, but I've been seeing this a lot lately across 2 other forums. When hard facts (proof) are provided and a discussion can not be resolved then it makes the person in question suspicious.
It's not a coincidence that I've been noticing more of this, lots of shills / simps across all forums are pushing a particular girl because the shops are snail pace business right now. There's no way in hell that 10+ people are getting the same exact service and quality from the same girl. Everyone has different tastes and different YMMV, it should be a 70% positivity rate at best. I personally have tried some of the "hype" girls and it was nothing like everyone claimed it to be. Now I just go based on my YMMV and who I think is attractive, because truth be told it's a 50/50 that I find the girls to be attractive of what everyone thinks anyways. For example: everyone thinks Helen NYAF is hot when I saw her I thought she was just average, I would put her and Allyssa SL in the same category, Kylie DDY I would say is a step above them but my UTR girls triumph all three. There are some popular jgirls that are pushed and I bet some guys would also agree with me.Very much concur with the above, cas these activities have been damaging the market as well as promoting avg to mediocre chicks that wants more but give less; if they are constantly being spoiled, we would rather see less quantities of abysmal chicks and wait for quality ones to hop aboard. Well put homie.
Genghis Dong
11-06-23, 13:33
It's not a coincidence that I've been noticing more of this, lots of shills / simps across all forums are pushing a particular girl because the shops are snail pace business right now. There's no way in hell that 10+ people are getting the same exact service and quality from the same girl. Everyone has different tastes and different YMMV, it should be a 70% positivity rate at best. I personally have tried some of the "hype" girls and it was nothing like everyone claimed it to be. Now I just go based on my YMMV and who I think is attractive, because truth be told it's a 50/50 that I find the girls to be attractive of what everyone thinks anyways. For example: everyone thinks Helen NYAF is hot when I saw her I thought she was just average, I would put her and Allyssa SL in the same category, Kylie DDY I would say is a step above them but my UTR girls triumph all three. There are some popular jgirls that are pushed and I bet some guys would also agree with me.I don't think so necessarily. If I don't like a girl I jump right out. When a guy says, "she was gross and not hot at all" I am like are you serious or full of shit? What kind of pussy would shell out $300+ for a girl he is not attracted to? I can't believe it. Have a sack and say "she's not my type". I've showered with so many girls and denied them after that I know the going rate is $40 for that. Also, I read the reviews. I have stopped going to a girl's first day in a lot of cases. Now of course I lucked out and saw Fairy her first day only because I ditched someone else before.
Also, it depends on what you want. If you want service and the girl to seduce you. And if you don't get your way you cry like a baby, then you will have a shit time. I have many ways to get my money out of a hooker. I know with J girls I am tearing up that pussy and their BJ is going to suck and that finish is going to have to come from hard ass banging them. I know I have to push and dominate the session and make them laugh while getting naked and in the shower. I know they can hate me or love me but I am getting that pussy.
I also go around checking out the girls before booking them.
A girl is a hard 100/200 OK, I have an 001 L that might feel better than bb and save 100.
Helen, Kylie, and Victoria are easily the hottest active Chinese providers in Manhattan. Of course the 1st two have my favorite body type.
https://www.pleasure-palace.club/kelly - name was Kelly at PPC. Javluvr said he had a good time with her. Mixed reviews on her service tho. She might be a bit jaded. A lot of rebrand/rotationsOh yes, I recall now. Seems like she likes what she likes and if she doesn't like you then you'll get a diff service.
There is always that risk with any type of ass play including FIA that a lot of folks do.Ah yes but when it comes back out smelly. It really ruins it for me.
IronClad999
11-06-23, 13:37
https://www.pleasure-palace.club/kelly - name was Kelly at PPC. Javluvr said he had a good time with her. Mixed reviews on her service tho. She might be a bit jaded. A lot of rebrand/rotationsYup she was the same kelly ppc / rose 1010 as before; she toured LA after DC last time too. Its easily browsable on the search bar here with very accurate exp with her, iykyk.
I think people mix up Service and Looks. I know Helen and Alyssa are both service queens. There is a big crazy thread on another website dedicated for Alyssa so she has a legion of fans.
For service, she's up there and def best rim jobs I've ever gotten came from these 2 girls. Helen of course has greek which puts her higher for most since she's C girl and Greek option being open most of the time is rare for a C girl. On top of openly offering BBFS also.
J girl are the opposite, some people put looks and add it to the service department score because they are young, and if hot with "normal service" they will get higher overall value because most J girl service are dismall so any resemblance of C Girl service ever just 50% will garner them high praises.
Exactly, say your piece and if a healthy discussion cannot be formed then simply don't respond. But making a blatant response of "ignore list" without attempting to have a healthy discussion screams suspicion. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, but I've been seeing this a lot lately across 2 other forums. When hard facts (proof) are provided and a discussion can not be resolved then it makes the person in question suspicious.
It's not a coincidence that I've been noticing more of this, lots of shills / simps across all forums are pushing a particular girl because the shops are snail pace business right now. There's no way in hell that 10+ people are getting the same exact service and quality from the same girl. Everyone has different tastes and different YMMV, it should be a 70% positivity rate at best. I personally have tried some of the "hype" girls and it was nothing like everyone claimed it to be. Now I just go based on my YMMV and who I think is attractive, because truth be told it's a 50/50 that I find the girls to be attractive of what everyone thinks anyways. For example: everyone thinks Helen NYAF is hot when I saw her I thought she was just average, I would put her and Allyssa SL in the same category, Kylie DDY I would say is a step above them but my UTR girls triumph all three. There are some popular jgirls that are pushed and I bet some guys would also agree with me.
Exactly, say your piece and if a healthy discussion cannot be formed then simply don't respond. But making a blatant response of "ignore list" without attempting to have a healthy discussion screams suspicion. I'm not pointing fingers at anyone, but I've been seeing this a lot lately across 2 other forums. When hard facts (proof) are provided and a discussion can not be resolved then it makes the person in question suspicious.
It's not a coincidence that I've been noticing more of this, lots of shills / simps across all forums are pushing a particular girl because the shops are snail pace business right now. There's no way in hell that 10+ people are getting the same exact service and quality from the same girl. Everyone has different tastes and different YMMV, it should be a 70% positivity rate at best. I personally have tried some of the "hype" girls and it was nothing like everyone claimed it to be. Now I just go based on my YMMV and who I think is attractive, because truth be told it's a 50/50 that I find the girls to be attractive of what everyone thinks anyways. For example: everyone thinks Helen NYAF is hot when I saw her I thought she was just average, I would put her and Allyssa SL in the same category, Kylie DDY I would say is a step above them but my UTR girls triumph all three. There are some popular jgirls that are pushed and I bet some guys would also agree with me.LOL I remember reading one shill's report claiming a girl was utr anal and it actually got posted to her profile page on the website. And she had to fight off a string of guys bringing in anal plugs and beads. 😂.
Forgot about her. My eyes just glossed over earlier because I don't usually see Latinas and she's def Latina right? Even though Russian / Japanese listing and people said she knows Russian and apparently she speaks very good English too. Even if someone says she's good. I am just not into it. ala Shynerd and Jedi's thread on girls.
Same for Meg R8 mix, she looks good but I didn't see her cuz I need her shaved lol but I am just not motivated.
Aria R8 https://risingsun8.com/view/292.
IronClad999
11-06-23, 13:48
LOL I remember reading one shill's report claiming a girl was utr anal and it actually got posted to her profile page on the website. And she had to fight off a string of guys bringing in anal plugs and beads. 😂.I think I recall that chick was at either xo or se; some senior here claimed seeing her offering anal / greek / cookie hole game, but she outright denied it when a bunch of clients went to book her and got super pissed LOLOL.
I think people mix up Service and Looks. I know Helen and Alyssa are both service queens. There is a big crazy thread on another website dedicated for Alyssa so she has a legion of fans.The are like Swifties LOL.
IronClad999
11-06-23, 14:15
It looks like she might have some geisha vibes; face and body not bad.
$240/30 minutes.
$300/45 minutes.
$360/60 minutes.It seems like she's touring dc, maybe ppc slow af for her LOL.
I think people mix up Service and Looks. I know Helen and Alyssa are both service queens. There is a big crazy thread on another website dedicated for Alyssa so she has a legion of fans.
For service, she's up there and def best rim jobs I've ever gotten came from these 2 girls. Helen of course has greek which puts her higher for most since she's C girl and Greek option being open most of the time is rare for a C girl. On top of openly offering BBFS also.
J girl are the opposite, some people put looks and add it to the service department score because they are young, and if hot with "normal service" they will get higher overall value because most J girl service are dismall so any resemblance of C Girl service ever just 50% will garner them high praises.For Helen her extra menu is how she stays relevant, just like Yume. Most people think she's mid 30's but she definitely looks late 30's early 40's, same as Allyssa. But like I said with the whole fan base / shills / simps it's all YMMV. Those girls are also much older than I am which is why I don't find them as attractive.
When it comes to jgirls, the reason why I say it's a 50/50 flip is because half the girls that come in (girls we know you lurking, don't take any offense to this) are nerds / losers. They use their youth to persuade the older crowd into liking them where as some of the other jgirls who are a few years older but much prettier yet no business. There are many jgirls that fit this category yet are highly popular (10+ clients but weak GFE, firm menu etc.) for no reason. This leads to suspicion of shills / simps getting some kind of perk or just simping hard and pushing the girl. Fine example was yumiko ddysl, lots of positive reviews but she was a dud for me. Everything in those reviews (note they're from "active" mongers) was completely the opposite for me (guarantee it's not my appearance because she was blocking me when supposedly big boys weren't blocked by her), only positive was her youth I just never got around to writing a review for her.
LOL I remember reading one shill's report claiming a girl was utr anal and it actually got posted to her profile page on the website. And she had to fight off a string of guys bringing in anal plugs and beads. 😂.Shills are the most brainless people you can run into LOL. There's a reason why they're shills, because they were nerds / losers in the younger days, simps are just as bad. Just because YMMV wasn't on their side there's no need to drag others down who are likely to succeed.
For Helen her extra menu is how she stays relevant, just like Yume. Most people think she's mid 30's but she definitely looks late 30's early 40's, same as Allyssa. But like I said with the whole fan base / shills / simps it's all YMMV. Those girls are also much older than I am which is why I don't find them as attractive.
When it comes to jgirls, the reason why I say it's a 50/50 flip is because half the girls that come in (girls we know you lurking, don't take any offense to this) are nerds / losers. They use their youth to persuade the older crowd into liking them where as some of the other jgirls who are a few years older but much prettier yet no business. There are many jgirls that fit this category yet are highly popular (10+ clients but weak GFE, firm menu etc.) for no reason. This leads to suspicion of shills / simps getting some kind of perk or just simping hard and pushing the girl. Fine example was yumiko ddysl, Damn you and writing some fighting words, their fans will come for you. LOL. Helen is def older but she does keep her body in great shape. Despite no tits, she's got a legend of following.
Her service is def the differentiator and come on in dim lights. Every girl is like +2 points automatically.
Was Yumiko the Australian accented girl? Very skinny, little six pack on her. Ass was surprising soft and not hard. She then went to xoxo and then PPC? Maybe I'm mixing up the girls. The girl I am thinking is Yumiko ended up at PPC but ran into a big wall. I recall some hotter girls with real service basically rendered her 3rd string pussy.
The are like Swifties LOL.Yes. I forgot the title of that post on the other website. Something about precious or never change her.
It's a funny title and she definitely has a big fan base. Her ThER review count always climbing. I look because I can't believe a C girl has got such staying power whenever I see a review for her popup.
I think she's going to surpass Victoria H at some point.
Genghis Dong
11-06-23, 18:11
For Helen her extra menu is how she stays relevant, just like Yume. Most people think she's mid 30's but she definitely looks late 30's early 40's, same as Allyssa. But like I said with the whole fan base / shills / simps it's all YMMV. Those girls are also much older than I am which is why I don't find them as attractive.Yume is not hot. She isn't. It is not about her being older.
Allyssa is definitely younger than Helen.
Cary is way older than you and you were all over that. Cary is about same age about as Allyssa and probably Yume (as Japanese women age like shit for Asians).
With Helen a lot of dudes like getting pegged and stuff.
With Helen a lot of dudes like getting pegged and stuff.Another girl told me Helen is the most popular girl because of that.
I said because guys like fucking Helen in the ass?
She corrected me and said the guys like Helen fucking them in their ass LOL.
VidLover69
11-06-23, 20:22
So I finally saw Tami. Given all of the previous reviews / comments, I'll just give my quick take. Yeah, she has a super rockin body with large, pillowy tits (all natural tits on a stick) and is service orientated (decent BBBJ / cg action). Downside is that she was a bit business like (no Yuki / Estuko GFE fantasy here) and was firm on extra.
BTW, double confirmed, hard 'no' on video. MSNBC will back Trump for president before Tami agrees to video.
No need for me to repeat with her since I need to add to my hentai collection but it seems like she is plenty busy banging 10-14 guys a day.
DrunkenKid
11-06-23, 22:02
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Neither do I, you said his post went back to you, I checked, it didn't.
Do you know how the ignore function works?
A2
DrunkenKid
11-06-23, 22:12
#NBC only and clock will run out on her. I don't have much interest right now on her. LOL.I am in negotiations to remove the last patch of hair to the top of Tami's pussy. ALL Bush MUST GO!
DrunkenKid
11-06-23, 22:27
Damn you and writing some fighting words, their fans will come for you. LOL. Helen is def older but she does keep her body in great shape. Despite no tits, she's got a legend of following.
I also had a meh experience with Helen. She kept asking me if I was sure we haven't met before. I not sure what that was about. . . Hmmm, was I young and stupid? Was she trying to signal that she wanted to bang me raw? FFFFFFFFFFUCK.
I have appointment to see Yukiko Wednesday morning. MMS said she had the the biggest pussy out of all the girls. Hopefully she doesn't disappoint. At least I know ill get CIP for cheap. Review coming.
Genghis Dong
11-06-23, 22:45
Another girl told me Helen is the most popular girl because of that.
I said because guys like fucking Helen in the ass?
She corrected me and said the guys like Helen fucking them in their ass LOL.Its funny she never tried any of that shit on me. None of them have. Helen is just perfectly what I want in a woman. I do wish she didn't do anal (she don't let me do it with her) so I could bury my face in her ass.
Damn you and writing some fighting words, their fans will come for you. LOL. Helen is def older but she does keep her body in great shape. Despite no tits, she's got a legend of following.
Her service is def the differentiator and come on in dim lights. Every girl is like +2 points automatically.
Was Yumiko the Australian accented girl? Very skinny, little six pack on her. Ass was surprising soft and not hard. She then went to xoxo and then PPC? Maybe I'm mixing up the girls. The girl I am thinking is Yumiko ended up at PPC but ran into a big wall. I recall some hotter girls with real service basically rendered her 3rd string pussy.http://dreamdreamyou.com/index.php/about-the-model/?smid=1951
And yes I will I say it as it is, I'm not afraid to speak my thoughts. It's just like everyone else who tries the girls I review, they may not get the same experience as it truly is a YMMV game. But like I said there's nothing wrong against their following, majority of that following is much older than I am but she's still younger to them. For me most of them are older than I am so the girls I tend to see are truly younger than myself, the ones I repeat with I've confirmed.
Yume is not hot. She isn't. It is not about her being older.
Allyssa is definitely younger than Helen.
Cary is way older than you and you were all over that. Cary is about same age about as Allyssa and probably Yume (as Japanese women age like shit for Asians).
With Helen a lot of dudes like getting pegged and stuff.Unless you know how old I am and have hard facts like I do, I really doubt you know what you're talking about. I've seen multiple physical passports of girls from ddy / sl / nyaf, and unless you have seen a different passport than I did, you're just guessing where I have seen full birthdates and real names. Because if carry is "way older than me" and "about the same age as Allyssa" that means both of them are in the early-mid 40's. If Allyssa is "definitely younger" than Helen, than Helen is mid-late 40's. This of course is all by your logic.
I'll be in town later this week and trying to organize a 'to do' list. I prefer super-cute / pretty faces, slender with flat / toned bellies, and BB option (this is why I love Kgirls and Jgirls, where all the above is much more common). Big tits and non-asian asses aren't a priority for me but more than a handful upstairs is always a plus. I'm not a giant fan of big tattoos. Great service isn't necessary as long as the girl doesn't just lay there and can be guided.
Right now my list is (depending on availability obviously):
Meg at R8 (if I can see her before she leaves).
Tami at SE.
Miyu at Ten.
Am I missing anyone? Suyen at Ten would have been on the list but she's a hard no on BB, and Moka at SE looks hot too but extras are unknown.
IronClad999
11-07-23, 08:12
Another cute lychee with kimochi vibe LOL;.
$240/30 Mins.
$300/45 Mins.
$360/60 Mins.
https://www.pleasure-palace.club/michi
She looks familiar; didn't stay long last time in nyc and ratings seem avg or mediocre; not much yoohoo game
IronClad999
11-07-23, 09:29
Another cute lychee with kimochi vibe LOL;.
$240/30 Mins.
$300/45 Mins.
$360/60 Mins.
https://www.pleasure-palace.club/michi
She looks familiar; didn't stay long last time in nyc and ratings seem avg or mediocre; not much yoohoo gameLooks like she just finished her quick tour in dc and pretty sour taste in performance with semi-dud vibes that plays rushy game and lazy with clockwatching schemes. No dice.
DrunkenKid
11-07-23, 10:30
I'll be in town later this week and trying to organize a 'to do' list. I prefer super-cute / pretty faces, slender with flat / toned bellies, and BB option (this is why I love Kgirls and Jgirls, where all the above is much more common). Big tits and non-asian asses aren't a priority for me but more than a handful upstairs is always a plus. I'm not a giant fan of big tattoos. Great service isn't necessary as long as the girl doesn't just lay there and can be guided.
Right now my list is (depending on availability obviously):
Meg at R8 (if I can see her before she leaves).
Tami at SE.
Miyu at Ten.
.All fine choices.
Don't know when you are arriving but Meg said that she is leaving on the 10th. Do check with RS8 to confirm. She is cute with A cups. But may not fit your traditional JGirl and KGirl vibe. NY went crazy for her because she looked different and exotic. I banged her earlier in the tour and service was still good. She made an effort to bang me back. I might go back for seconds this week.
Tami is a good all around choice. But I am bias. She is still jet lagged. She is getting a lot of bookings but surprisingly I got my preferred time yesterday. But do try to book her in advance.
So I saw this wall of text when I woke up drunk AF in Tokyo, with 3 hours to go catch a plane on Saturday morning. I didn't realize that you were pointing the finger at me on the post and all the follow up posts from this weekend. These posts don't seem to be based on tangible facts. I had no idea where this beef came from. But I will address the accusation with facts.
I am not a Shill. Both Tami and Mariko are AAA JGirls. Both of them don't need me as a hypeman. Someone asked on the forums if Tami is coming back to NY. In the spirit of sharing, I gave privileged information on Tami's ETA. Shills would say chicks give away free or cheap BBFS in order to drum up their business. I've been trying to unsuccessfully CIP Mariko for less than $200 for the past 6 months. Are you now calling me a "reverse-shill" with Mariko because I keep confirming her price at $200? That's silly. I want to be able to hum brag about getting less than $200 from her.
I am not a Gatekeeper. Gatekeeping would be withholding privileged information from the general public in the attempt to see Tami first. I posted about her trip way in advance. I didn't withhold any information to be the first in line to see her or to keep anyone else from seeing her.
I am not a Simp. This one is too funny. For the past 6 months, I have been giving information about flexible girls and bitching and moaning about girls that keep to MSRP. This is the game that I am here to play. Do I have money? Fuck yes. Do I over tip? Fuck no. I'm on record on multiple posts stating that I am trying to get the best price that I can. But I would never pull up the ladder on anyone else for better position.
Do I dress well? Yes, I am slim and have broad shoulders. I'm generally in business casual because I am banging the girls during lunch. I've also banged girls while wearing hoodies and t-shirts. It makes no difference. This is a silly accusation. The girls know I am fucking money within 5 minutes of meeting me. I don't need to over tip, tell them I am VIP, or how to conduct their business to keep their attention. You have me confused with someone else.
The USASG forums have clear guidelines on shilling and harassment. You can report my posts and ask the admin for a ruling on the field if you feel that I am breaking the rules.
If you don't like my posts then fine. Please feel free to hit the ignore button. I do use the ignore button on users that are petty, troll, and don't add to the collective. My enjoyment of the forums is better because of it. The admin actually encourages people to use the ignore button. It should bring you better enjoyment of the forums if you don't agree with me or are no longer entertained by me as well.
It's a shame that we are no longer moving as one. There is definitely a cloud of toxicity in the air but I am moving on.
IT'S ALL GOOD BAYBEE!Dude I am not even sure they're talking about you. There has just been a bunch of random baseless accusations leveled against these supposed shills and simps since Friday. I'd sure like to know who these shills and simps that were talking about are, because I'm honestly clueless. DK is definitely not a shill. He is one of the more credible posters on this thread. You're one of the good ones DK, even if you do ruin my bushed girls LOL.
Another poster seemed to be implying I was a simp? Again I'm not entirely sure where these accusations are coming from, why they're being made or who they're being made at. Not to toot my own horn, but I think I am one of the most credible posters on here. Check my post history. I am just some young buck whose been mongering for little over a year and has been posting regularly since I've started. Seniors on here like GD, SNX and PB have seen me go from being a clueless newbie asking where to find the AV girls to a veteran who regularly drops good fuckin intel for all to enjoy. All my posts are made in a good faith effort to share intel, stimulate discussion and just have some lolz. PMs always welcome from those seeking guidance or just looking to chat. I do still have a soft spot for newbies.
On the subject of the ignore button, I still haven't used it on anyone. I am in favor of open discussion and the marketplace of ideas. Having said that, I don't want to deal with baseless accusations or personal attacks when I come onto the thread. I'm very busy with work, fucking these girls I write about and life in general. I use this website regularly because I get enjoyment out of it. If it ceases to be enjoyable because of too much BS, then I won't be posting here anymore.
I do agree about the cloud of toxicity and it's a shame. Can't we all just get along? I vibe quite well with everyone on the thread (with one notable exception) and I have no desire to engage in flame wars with anyone. I don't want to contribute to the toxicity and so will refrain from calling anyone out going forward. No matter how rude, thin skinned or obnoxious they may be. Let's all just try to coexist peacefully.
IronClad999
11-07-23, 10:50
In case anyones interested, she's now in nova dc rebranded as "YOKODDD" in a kgirl spot prob NYC was slow af for her. Might see her as backup one of these days in case NYC isn't doing any justice bangs LOL.
I am in negotiations to remove the last patch of hair to the top of Tami's pussy. ALL Bush MUST GO!Tami -- yes do it.
http://dreamdreamyou.com/index.php/about-the-model/?smid=1951
And yes I will I say it as it is, I'm not afraid to speak my thoughts. It's just like everyone else who tries the girls I review, they may not get the same experience as it truly is a YMMV game. But like I said there's nothing wrong against their following, majority of that following is much older than I am but she's still younger to them. For me most of them are older than I am so the girls I tend to see are truly younger than myself, the ones I repeat with I've confirmed.
Cannot see anything, I think they removed the images on that system instead of just "archive" like the normal websites we see.
I also had a meh experience with Helen. She kept asking me if I was sure we haven't met before. I not sure what that was about. . . Hmmm, was I young and stupid? Was she trying to signal that she wanted to bang me raw? FFFFFFFFFFUCK.I had a decent time though, but I only saw her twice and it was long ago back in the BG days. I didn't see her when she was on diamond street.
So I finally saw Tami. Given all of the previous reviews / comments, I'll just give my quick take. Yeah, she has a super rockin body with large, pillowy tits (all natural tits on a stick) and is service orientated (decent BBBJ / cg action). Downside is that she was a bit business like (no Yuki / Estuko GFE fantasy here) and was firm on extra.
BTW, double confirmed, hard 'no' on video. MSNBC will back Trump for president before Tami agrees to video.
No need for me to repeat with her since I need to add to my hentai collection but it seems like she is plenty busy banging 10-14 guys a day.I think you already said No on video, did you make an offer she cannot refuse or the standard $200 option these days?
Shame about the comparison to Yuki. Wait 3 months and Yuki will be back again.
Still good though, hard to compare to Yuki and natural tits are def better.
Yume is not hot. She isn't. It is not about her being older.
Allyssa is definitely younger than Helen.
Cary is way older than you and you were all over that. Cary is about same age about as Allyssa and probably Yume (as Japanese women age like shit for Asians).
With Helen a lot of dudes like getting pegged and stuff.Yes Alyssa def younger than Helen else my ability to guess Asian women's age is really fucked up. Helen does have a great body though, not sure how she kept her face and tits that smooth.
Another girl told me Helen is the most popular girl because of that.
I said because guys like fucking Helen in the ass?
She corrected me and said the guys like Helen fucking them in their ass LOL.Yes, she has a bag of tricks that guys sometimes let her fuck them in the ass. That's the only girl I know of that does that. I forgot about that, she is BBFS, Greek, plays with girl's ass beyond RIM she has the most service out of the regular AMP circuit.
CreaminThePie
11-07-23, 10:53
I'll be in town later this week and trying to organize a 'to do' list. I prefer super-cute / pretty faces, slender with flat / toned bellies, and BB option (this is why I love Kgirls and Jgirls, where all the above is much more common). Big tits and non-asian asses aren't a priority for me but more than a handful upstairs is always a plus. I'm not a giant fan of big tattoos. Great service isn't necessary as long as the girl doesn't just lay there and can be guided.
Right now my list is (depending on availability obviously):
Meg at R8 (if I can see her before she leaves).
Tami at SE.
Miyu at Ten.
Am I missing anyone? Suyen at Ten would have been on the list but she's a hard no on BB, and Moka at SE looks hot too but extras are unknown.Meg and Tami are slender and good safe picks. Haven't seen Miyu but pretty sure she isn't as slender as the former two. Miyu leans more towards averaged bodied but heard she has very nice tits and soft white skin.
Damn, you guys wrote a lot too.
Same replies.
One difference is that ignore is used because it's easier to skip over a fuck ton of messages. It's pointless to read disinformation and ignored messages show up as smaller formatted blocks that are very easy to just scan past. Efficiency is the game here. I don't have time to read messages on and off all day. I like to just do a quick check and send or reply to a bunch at once (as you can see that I normally do) then I'm out for a bit.
Dude I am not even sure they're talking about you. There has just been a bunch of random baseless accusations leveled against these supposed shills and simps since Friday. I'd sure like to know who these shills and simps that were talking about are, because I'm honestly clueless. DK is definitely not a shill. He is one of the more credible posters on this thread. You're one of the good ones DK, even if you do ruin my bushed girls LOL.
Another poster seemed to be implying I was a simp? Again I'm not entirely sure where these accusations are coming from, why they're being made or who they're being made at. Not to toot my own horn, but I think I am one of the most credible posters on here. Check my post history. I am just some young buck whose been mongering for little over a year and has been posting regularly since I've started. Seniors on here like GD, SNX and PB have seen me go from being a clueless newbie asking where to find the AV girls to a veteran who regularly drops good fuckin intel for all to enjoy. All my posts are made in a good faith effort to share intel, stimulate discussion and just have some lolz. PMs always welcome from those seeking guidance or just looking to chat. I do still have a soft spot for newbies.
On the subject of the ignore button, I still haven't used it on anyone. I am in favor of open discussion and the marketplace of ideas. Having said that, I don't want to deal with baseless accusations or personal attacks when I come onto the thread. I'm very busy with work, fucking these girls I write about and life in general. I use this website regularly because I get enjoyment out of it. If it ceases to be enjoyable because of too much BS, then I won't be posting here anymore.
I do agree about the cloud of toxicity and it's a shame. Can't we all just get along? I vibe quite well with everyone on the thread (with one notable exception) and I have no desire to engage in flame wars with anyone. I don't want to contribute to the toxicity and so will refrain from calling anyone out going forward. No matter how rude, thin skinned or obnoxious they may be. Let's all just try to coexist peacefully.
So I saw this wall of text when I woke up drunk AF in Tokyo, with 3 hours to go catch a plane on Saturday morning. I didn't realize that you were pointing the finger at me on the post and all the follow up posts from this weekend. These posts don't seem to be based on tangible facts. I had no idea where this beef came from. But I will address the accusation with facts.
I am not a Shill. Both Tami and Mariko are AAA JGirls. Both of them don't need me as a hypeman. Someone asked on the forums if Tami is coming back to NY. In the spirit of sharing, I gave privileged information on Tami's ETA. Shills would say chicks give away free or cheap BBFS in order to drum up their business. I've been trying to unsuccessfully CIP Mariko for less than $200 for the past 6 months. Are you now calling me a "reverse-shill" with Mariko because I keep confirming her price at $200? That's silly. I want to be able to hum brag about getting less than $200 from her.
I am not a Gatekeeper. Gatekeeping would be withholding privileged information from the general public in the attempt to see Tami first. I posted about her trip way in advance. I didn't withhold any information to be the first in line to see her or to keep anyone else from seeing her.
I am not a Simp. This one is too funny. For the past 6 months, I have been giving information about flexible girls and bitching and moaning about girls that keep to MSRP. This is the game that I am here to play. Do I have money? Fuck yes. Do I over tip? Fuck no. I'm on record on multiple posts stating that I am trying to get the best price that I can. But I would never pull up the ladder on anyone else for better position.
Do I dress well? Yes, I am slim and have broad shoulders. I'm generally in business casual because I am banging the girls during lunch. I've also banged girls while wearing hoodies and t-shirts. It makes no difference. This is a silly accusation. The girls know I am fucking money within 5 minutes of meeting me. I don't need to over tip, tell them I am VIP, or how to conduct their business to keep their attention. You have me confused with someone else.
The USASG forums have clear guidelines on shilling and harassment. You can report my posts and ask the admin for a ruling on the field if you feel that I am breaking the rules.
If you don't like my posts then fine. Please feel free to hit the ignore button. I do use the ignore button on users that are petty, troll, and don't add to the collective. My enjoyment of the forums is better because of it. The admin actually encourages people to use the ignore button. It should bring you better enjoyment of the forums if you don't agree with me or are no longer entertained by me as well.
It's a shame that we are no longer moving as one. There is definitely a cloud of toxicity in the air but I am moving on.
IT'S ALL GOOD BAYBEE!
GND J Girl versus Service Queens.
Over the past month every time I wanted to try out a new girl, I have been leaning toward a J Girl.
I ran into NYAF Helen recently while she was naked and was about to leave the room. We spoke a couple of minutes. She initiated a kiss and said something like see you soon. I am sure great GFE but I did not have the urge to see her.
Compared to my recent visits to J Girls Riri, Eri, Hanuka, Asuna and Erina. They are all young cute with GND vibe although their GFE is limited from bad to good. Nothing compared to Carry and Fairy GFE who I also saw recently.
Carry and Fairy are all DFK within a minute. Since I let the girls initiate, first kiss from a J Girl can almost be 10 minutes. For example, Erina was all business with greeting, donation, shower. Then we sat on the bed and she started kissing like this was the official start of the session and GFE LOL.
J Girls are definitely a hit or miss and at best, good GFE. However you cannot beat their youth and GND vibe.
One day I may get the full experience by paying for BBFS etc. But for now at 30-minutes with kissing, BBBJ, 69, limited condom action, they are great side additions to my main raw pussy bangs with regulars.
My regulars are my bread and butter and the J Girls are all dispensable with no repeats unless they are exceptionally nice to me LOL.
Variety is key.
IronClad999
11-07-23, 11:08
It looks like someone gave her a "no" recommendation and not worth the time, face and body looks neat with the white / pink bra bikini set.
Cannot see anything, I think they removed the images on that system instead of just "archive" like the normal websites we see.Oh she probably got the boot or snail pace business for her so she left because no longer on the schedule. I wouldn't be surprised with either, I've only been cockblocked by two girls and she was one of them she wouldn't let me I further than the head used her legs in mish to block me and held herself up in CG so I couldn't thrust up. Supposedly GD didn't get blocked and another monger somewhere else that reviews a lot also didn't get blocked. I guess by theory, I got blocked because I'm bigger than both of them? Because don't get me wrong she was tight for how much I got in anyways.
This was yumiko the Korean / Japanese girl that was at sl & ddy.
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