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Is Liza / Lisa uptown still the best BBFS lady in Manhattan? Given cost, availability & service etc.I have to say she is to me she's the best BBFS provider and gives a decent message as well. It's 220 the hour she's a really lovely lady.
Is Liza / Lisa uptown still the best BBFS lady in Manhattan? Given cost, availability & service etc.Any link or number which you can share? Thanks!
Has anyone seen Star Demarco? Seems like she's in the area and I've heard she offers a Gina Rollins style pornstar experience (BBFS, bbgreek, watersports, etc). Would be curious to get a confirmation before making a booking though.
KingOfFours
11-30-18, 08:26
I just don't get the fascination with fucking with pornstars. And dropping the cash for it.
I would feel like such a sucker dropping 1500-2000 on pussy.
Even if I were Donald j trump.
I guess dudes want to make reality their fantasies of watching countless videos for hours a day on porn hub and x videos.
I'm good.
I stick to fucking regular girls pussy that I get for free.
And my massage parlor Asian chicks and Russian bitches on eros.
I've heard so many horror stories from the porn industry.
They only get tested every two weeks and try to pass it off like it's brand new.
And they got meds that hide hiv / aids and you have no break outs.
I've heard stories of girls telling me doing anal in a scene and the chocolate pudding coming out.
Girls having pus coming out their pus.
Using tampons to stop the crimson tide while getting gangbanged.
Dudes in the industry being bi. Meaning they fuck men and women and the gay industry is so lax on testing.
Half of these pornstars are druggies and fucking nuts.
I'm OK just net flixing and chilling with an actual girl in real life and watching pr0n and Renacting the positions.
But to you dudes that have money to drop 1500-2000 on some Pussy because she is on xvideos and pornhub and got Instagram followers.
More power to you.Who pays 1500 to 2000? I've raw-dogged Chenin Blanc, Dana Hayes, Kelly Leigh, Sammy Banks, Nastaya Simmons, Shasha Chanel (now retired), Harmony Heart, Briana Wildman, in LA and Vegas, and I never paid more than 400. In fact, many of those were around 250 or 300. In some cases, videotaping the session was included in the price.
But I agree, just because they are well-known porn stars with films of them getting inseminated online, that is not reason enough, alone, to select them over well-reviewed unknowns. But with "porn stars", you can, at least, see them in action beforehand, and that is worth something. I've found that most of the time, they do indeed perform pretty much just as in their films.
Does anyone here know if any providers will be available during the Christmas Day? You can also PM me. Thinking of seeing one during that day. Thank you very much!
AQuietExit
11-30-18, 12:04
I haven't been doing this for long, but I've been through quite a few porn stars in the short time I've been hobbying. This is what I've generally experienced. Here's my two cents on the subject:
Keep in mind that it's a bit trickier dealing with stars that don't manage themselves. Having to deal with an agent means that they may just shut you out even if she may have been willing to provide the service.
I typically try to avoid stars that don't answer their own emails, or solely go through an agency.
Adonia at TLC seems to be the exception to that rule.
There's also the possibility that they have an agent acting as them, but you really can't tell at that point anyway.
In any event, HOW you ask is more important than anything else.
It's important to be discreet but clear. What I usually do is mention that I'm D / D free and have recent tests to prove it and I also ask if they have and rules or requirements that I should know beforehand.
Most of the time, if they don't do BBFS or anything extra they'll immediately say something like "nothing uncovered" or "I don't provide GFE services". Many of them also usually say no Greek as well. Just my observation that those two responses tend to be paired up. If they do offer anything they'll tell you what it is and they'll tell you exactly what they require in terms of recent testing. I've never had them get so technical regarding the type of testing and what to test for, but many won't accept a test older than 5-10 days.
Once in a while, depending on your approach, if they like you they may backtrack on one or more of their "donts". But don't count on it and assume it's a hard no.
That's been what I've experienced so far.Gave the assistant your line. No negative response but no details either. Guess I'll find out soon enough.
Has anyone seen Star Demarco? Seems like she's in the area and I've heard she offers a Gina Rollins style pornstar experience (BBFS, bbgreek, watersports, etc). Would be curious to get a confirmation before making a booking though.Where have you heard BBFS is avail and if so I'm down next time she's in the area she's 100 percent my type.
AQuietExit
11-30-18, 18:54
I know this is the BBFS thread but I think this question is applicable. Anyone here have any experience with: Perfection Models, Anna Bell Peaks, Madison Ivy, or Skyla Novea.
Perfection Models screening is making me regret I didn't start seeing pornstars sooner so I'd have suitable references available. They also want rs2 k or date check, not P411 which I thought was the standard.
Anna Bell Peaks and Madison Ivy: trying to find out if they are reachable another way and how best to make that approach.
Skyla Novea and Eva Karera are on P411 so I'm good there. I'm waiting on TLC screening to pan out as well to see if things work out for other providers too. Mainly I just want to know what to expect here. This is def a milestone for me guys. I'm hoping it all pans out. I appreciate any advice y'all can give as always.
Oh and not tryna shill for Gina rollins but I'm a regular of hers but apparently she has some new Gabrielle french-american spinner available on her website and gina confirmed she's BBFS. Its the best contribution I can give y'all rn.
That's what I meant. I know it has no bearing on your individual experience but knowing that she did do it makes it easier to ask. That's also why I asked if it was more of a first date happening with you vs multiple dates.
I'm not trying to burn bridges so to speak.
Unless you've been asking for extreme freaky stuff like in stereotypical japanese porn. Asking for greek and daty are pretty normal fare as far as porn / escorting goes.
And if you're showing her your papers, does that means she's showing you hers?I've almost never had a second date with a porn star (my choice. I like variety) so, yes, the BBFS, when it happened, was on the first date.
You'd be surprised what will set someone off if they are having a bad day.
But, anyway, remember, that porn star I mentioned that freaked out? She didn't freak out because I asked for BBFS. She just turned me down and told me why. She also wouldn't do BBBJ, or even dfk. I was very disappointed by all that because this was a major hottie in the 80's and the subject of many of my wildest fantasies. So, I was having trouble getting hard and started stroking myself. She wasn't facing me at the time, saw out of the corner of her eye my moving my hand around my cock. And she accused me of trying to take the condom off to fuck her against her wishes (something I'd never do). She freaked out and it went downhill from there.
I know this is the BBFS thread but I think this question is applicable. Anyone here have any experience with: Perfection Models, Anna Bell Peaks, Madison Ivy, or Skyla Novea.
Perfection Models screening is making me regret I didn't start seeing pornstars sooner so I'd have suitable references available. They also want rs2 k or date check, not P411 which I thought was the standard.
Anna Bell Peaks and Madison Ivy: trying to find out if they are reachable another way and how best to make that approach.
Skyla Novea and Eva Karera are on P411 so I'm good there. I'm waiting on TLC screening to pan out as well to see if things work out for other providers too. Mainly I just want to know what to expect here. This is def a milestone for me guys. I'm hoping it all pans out. I appreciate any advice y'all can give as always.
Oh and not tryna shill for Gina rollins but I'm a regular of hers but apparently she has some new Gabrielle french-american spinner available on her website and gina confirmed she's BBFS. Its the best contribution I can give y'all rn.I think Madison Ivy is available through TheLuxuryCompanion and Adonia is far more reasonable in terms of screening (or at least used to be). Anna Bell Peaks can often be found on cam sites like MyFreeCams. You can always book a private with her, talk with her, and discuss your desires with her directly. I don't think either of them do BBFS though. In fact, I'm pretty sure Anna Bell will shut you down if you ask but I could be wrong.
Serena Santos no go on BBFS; she's currently in NYC until Monday for 600/ hr. Rather new into the porn industry with a recent scene on Bangbus.
Anyone know about Katrina Jade? She's at 1500 but seems to be managing her own account / emails.
Who pays 1500 to 2000? I've raw-dogged Chenin Blanc, Dana Hayes, Kelly Leigh, Sammy Banks, Nastaya Simmons, Shasha Chanel (now retired), Harmony Heart, Briana Wildman, in LA and Vegas, and I never paid more than 400. In fact, many of those were around 250 or 300. In some cases, videotaping the session was included in the price.
But I agree, just because they are well-known porn stars with films of them getting inseminated online, that is not reason enough, alone, to select them over well-reviewed unknowns. But with "porn stars", you can, at least, see them in action beforehand, and that is worth something. I've found that most of the time, they do indeed perform pretty much just as in their films.There used to be a list floating around TER about porn stars that could be had for under $500. That list is obsolete now. A lot of them having retired. But yes, a lot of "porn stars" are available for under $1000. These are porn stars that generally have less than 50 films to their credit. Once a porn star starts to become popular, and does more films, her fee goes up to the $1000-$1500 range. Those are ladies that have done 50-100 or so films. After that, the price goes up. The stars that have done 200 or more films generally charge about $2500 or more. In other words, the more films she's done, the more she gets for escort work. Other types of fame will drive up the cost too: Isabella Soprano used to be available for about $500/ hr at the BunnyRanch in Nevada until Dennis Hof featured her on his HBO series and then she went up to about $1500/ hr. Alas, she retired before I had a chance to see her, or to find out actual fees.
This is all generalities though and there are plenty of exceptions. But, if you want to figure out how much a particular porn star is likely to ask for a date, check IAFD.com and see how many films she's done. The more films, the more you can expect to pay.
My first porn star, BTW: Micky Lynn who still charges $250/ hr. .
I've almost never had a second date with a porn star (my choice. I like variety) so, yes, the BBFS, when it happened, was on the first date.
You'd be surprised what will set someone off if they are having a bad day.
But, anyway, remember, that porn star I mentioned that freaked out? She didn't freak out because I asked for BBFS. She just turned me down and told me why. She also wouldn't do BBBJ, or even dfk. I was very disappointed by all that because this was a major hottie in the 80's and the subject of many of my wildest fantasies. So, I was having trouble getting hard and started stroking myself. She wasn't facing me at the time, saw out of the corner of her eye my moving my hand around my cock. And she accused me of trying to take the condom off to fuck her against her wishes (something I'd never do). She freaked out and it went downhill from there.Sometimes they catch something and get burnt badly then they stop. I had a regular BBFS at kiss kiss pop few years back and one day she said she not doing BBFS or BBBJ anymore. I got the memo LOL.
SpaspaHunter
11-30-18, 23:21
I've almost never had a second date with a porn star (my choice. I like variety) so, yes, the BBFS, when it happened, was on the first date.
You'd be surprised what will set someone off if they are having a bad day.
But, anyway, remember, that porn star I mentioned that freaked out? She didn't freak out because I asked for BBFS. She just turned me down and told me why. She also wouldn't do BBBJ, or even dfk. I was very disappointed by all that because this was a major hottie in the 80's and the subject of many of my wildest fantasies. So, I was having trouble getting hard and started stroking myself. She wasn't facing me at the time, saw out of the corner of her eye my moving my hand around my cock. And she accused me of trying to take the condom off to fuck her against her wishes (something I'd never do). She freaked out and it went downhill from there.I'm tempted to ask for that now not that I would do it.
Isn't it awkward to ask for their papers?
Damn. Sounds like some really bad communication right there. How do you handle bad dates when that happens?
AQuietExit
12-01-18, 00:00
I think Madison Ivy is available through TheLuxuryCompanion and Adonia is far more reasonable in terms of screening (or at least used to be). Anna Bell Peaks can often be found on cam sites like MyFreeCams. You can always book a private with her, talk with her, and discuss your desires with her directly. I don't think either of them do BBFS though. In fact, I'm pretty sure Anna Bell will shut you down if you ask but I could be wrong.Run that last bit by me again. What did she do that made you so sure about that? And I take it shutdown means blacklisting huh. Don't want that and don't want to offend / make anyone uncomfortable either. I just want to fulfill a fantasy real quick, nbd.
AQuietExit
12-01-18, 00:47
I'm tempted to ask for that now not that I would do it.
Isn't it awkward to ask for their papers?
Damn. Sounds like some really bad communication right there. How do you handle bad dates when that happens?Sounds like she crashed hard. Reminds me of one of my ex's manic episodes. You might dealt with bipolar on an off day? Who the fuck knows. I assume you got out pretty clean MrFrench?
UncleThrax
12-01-18, 10:22
Gave the assistant your line. No negative response but no details either. Guess I'll find out soon enough.At that point I would just flat out ask if BBFS CIP is on the menu (unless you want to see the star anyway even if it isn't). If you've already provided verification info and told them you're D / D free and have papers to prove it, they know you're not LE and they know you're serious.
Either they'll answer you candidly and tell you what's available and what isn't or they'll terminate the convo or they'll warn you about explicit talk and threaten to terminate the convo. Adonia at TLC will tell you to pick some providers and she'll find out for you.
Personally, I don't do guessing games or surprises and I've had LONG but polite arguments via email with some providers or their agents until they just flat out decided to speak with me over the phone.
Again, civility, kindness, decorum, and respect are key. Don't lose your cool. They understand that you're looking to make sure you're getting what you pay for and nobody wants misunderstandings in the bedroom. But you've got to be willing to spend a little time getting them comfortable with you before you can be straightforward about what you want. It varies with each provider and agent. Some are VERY straightforward like Chennin Blanc, Lacey Duvalle, Sexy Vanessa, and Kiki Daire. But they're also older and with the exception of Chennin Blanc charge A LOT.
Some who work through agents like Nicolette Shea (NO BBFS but BBBJ according to her assistant BTW as an FYI) aren't going to be so straightforward. You have to use your discretion, feel out the situation, and know that you can always take your money elsewhere.
Again just my experience.
AQuietExit
12-01-18, 10:58
At that point I would just flat out ask if BBFS CIP is on the menu (unless you want to see the star anyway even if it isn't). If you've already provided verification info and told them you're D / D free and have papers to prove it, they know you're not LE and they know you're serious.
Either they'll answer you candidly and tell you what's available and what isn't or they'll terminate the convo or they'll warn you about explicit talk and threaten to terminate the convo. Adonia at TLC will tell you to pick some providers and she'll find out for you.
Personally, I don't do guessing games or surprises and I've had LONG but polite arguments via email with some providers or their agents until they just flat out decided to speak with me over the phone.
Again, civility, kindness, decorum, and respect are key. Don't lose your cool. They understand that you're looking to make sure you're getting what you pay for and nobody wants misunderstandings in the bedroom. But you've got to be willing to spend a little time getting them comfortable with you before you can be straightforward about what you want..I appreciate the hell out ya for this. I misspoke when I said I got no negative response but no details either. I meant that I didn't get shutdown or blown up for asking but I was warned off of explicit details. I'm going to post up what I said so you.
This is how this part of the convo went.
Me: I am looking to spend an hour for the first meeting. I'm D&D free and have recent tests to prove it. I would like to know if Shay has any rules or requirements I should be aware of before we meet? Thank you.
Shay's Agent:
We dont discuss any explicit details but she likes good hygiene if that helps. Holly😊
Me: That's never a problem with me. Anyway thank you so much. You've been very helpful and I look forward to seeing her when she comes to NYC. Have a good one.If I hear "no explicit talk" that's my cue to shut up and color. The way I figure it, this is one I'm TOFTTing anyway because I always wanted to see Shay Sights. She's one of my favorites. Worse comes to worse, I come correct, get told no BBFS, have my fun and get a reference out of it. Then I try my luck with someone else.
I appreciate the headsup with Nicolette Shea. Definitely skipping her. Hope Madison Scott has no issues with that.
AQuietExit
12-01-18, 11:04
Also Uncle Thrax, let me know what your take is on that snippet of email convo.
UncleThrax
12-01-18, 17:20
Also Uncle Thrax, let me know what your take is on that snippet of email convo.Ok, so that would have been a game ender for me.
I would have stated something like, "I understand and respect your boundaries. However I'm looking for some very particular services and if I can't be assured that they'll be offered prior to making the appointment then I'm not simply interested in going forward. It would be greatly appreciated if there was some way, perhaps via phone conversation or text, that we could resolve this. If not, I'll simply move along thank you for your time. ".
BUT, since you want to see Shay regardless and would apparently be fine with TOFT, what you did was fine.
I would suggest following some of Me Frenchs pointers. Bring your papers with you and try to see what she'll say.
Also, in my general experience with women, if you're gentle (unless they tell you that they specifically like rough play) and you go down on a woman well enough, for long enough, they'll forget their own names and will be begging for you to fill them up.
That goes with quite a few porn stars too. If you can afford it, that's why it's sometimes worth it to do a few hours. They're people just like anyone at the end of the day. In any service industry, you get what you give, whether you're a provider or a customer.
Whether she's a porn star, escort, SA girl, or a regular girl you met in your normal life, treat a woman right, she'll almost always reciprocate
Hope that helps.
AQuietExit
12-01-18, 17:41
Ok, so that would have been a game ender for me.
I would have stated something like, "I understand and respect your boundaries. However I'm looking for some very particular services and if I can't be assured that they'll be offered prior to making the appointment then I'm not simply interested in going forward. It would be greatly appreciated if there was some way, perhaps via phone conversation or text, that we could resolve this. If not, I'll simply move along thank you for your time. ".
BUT, since you want to see Shay regardless and would apparently be fine with TOFT, what you did was fine.
I would suggest following some of Me Frenchs pointers. Bring your papers with you and try to see what she'll say.
Also, in my general experience with women, if you're gentle (unless they tell you that they specifically like rough play) and you go down on a woman well enough, for long enough, they'll forget their own names and will be begging for you to fill them up.
That goes with quite a few porn stars too. If you can afford it, that's why it's sometimes worth it to do a few hours. They're people just like anyone at the end of the day. In any service industry, you get what you give, whether you're a provider or a customer.
Whether she's a porn star, escort, SA girl, or a regular girl you met in your normal life, treat a woman right, she'll almost always reciprocate
Hope that helps.That helps a great deal. Thank you so much.
SpaspaHunter
12-01-18, 18:49
Ok, so that would have been a game ender for me.
I would have stated something like, "I understand and respect your boundaries. However I'm looking for some very particular services and if I can't be assured that they'll be offered prior to making the appointment then I'm not simply interested in going forward. It would be greatly appreciated if there was some way, perhaps via phone conversation or text, that we could resolve this. If not, I'll simply move along thank you for your time. ".
BUT, since you want to see Shay regardless and would apparently be fine with TOFT, what you did was fine.
I would suggest following some of Me Frenchs pointers. Bring your papers with you and try to see what she'll say.
Also, in my general experience with women, if you're gentle (unless they tell you that they specifically like rough play) and you go down on a woman well enough, for long enough, they'll forget their own names and will be begging for you to fill them up.
That goes with quite a few porn stars too. If you can afford it, that's why it's sometimes worth it to do a few hours. They're people just like anyone at the end of the day. In any service industry, you get what you give, whether you're a provider or a customer.
Whether she's a porn star, escort, SA girl, or a regular girl you met in your normal life, treat a woman right, she'll almost always reciprocate
Hope that helps.That's a great way to put it. Almost meme-like haha.
Coincidentally I was eyeing Kiki Daire but damn if you're saying she's over charging her fame I'll wait or pass.
Just super curious because one of her porn she was saying she has no cervix.
Serena Santos no go on BBFS; she's currently in NYC until Monday for 600/ hr. Rather new into the porn industry with a recent scene on Bangbus.
Anyone know about Katrina Jade? She's at 1500 but seems to be managing her own account / emails.I haven't seen her myself but before she became a pornstar, Katrina was an upscale provider and she used to offer bb as stated in her ads, had to provide papers from what I recall. The strange thing about her back then was that you had to meet her bf before seeing her, for her safety.
AQuietExit
12-01-18, 20:21
Probably not the smartest move but I enjoyed calling keith / chloe out when dude emailed me talking about "not too confident college kids can afford the appointment. " He got livid when I was like no worries keith, accused me of being a weirdo fanboy, threatened public blacklisting etc. He shut up after I followed up and made it clear I knew his deal and to not contact me again.
No worries gents, I kept it generic. I just fucking hate anyone who beats on women. That shit don't make you a man and neither does living off them. Let me know if I actually need to worry. Otherwise fuck it, it was worth it.
Sometimes they catch something and get burnt badly then they stop. I had a regular BBFS at kiss kiss pop few years back and one day she said she not doing BBFS or BBBJ anymore. I got the memo LOL.In this particular case, she had "gone sober and clean". She was a heavy drug user at one point and a major alcoholic according to a former colleague and friend of hers. She had gone into rehab and came out clean. And not doing anything that involved any exchange of bodily fluids of any kind. It really was a shame because I booked a date with her some years earlier, and the date got cancelled because she had just gone into rehab at that point. I wish I had seen her before the rehab; she probably would have been a lot more fun.
I'm tempted to ask for that now not that I would do it.
Isn't it awkward to ask for their papers?
Damn. Sounds like some really bad communication right there. How do you handle bad dates when that happens?It is awkward to ask for their papers but if they are asking you for yours, they should be able to reciprocate. One of the nice things about TTS is that they give you an online link and code so you can call the tests up right on your electronic device of choice and view it, or show it to someone else so the papers are there if you someone needs to see them. At least that's the way they did it the last time I got tested by TTS which was about 10 years ago. Since then I've had my own doctor do it because if something does turn up (God forbid), I can get immediate treatment.
Run that last bit by me again. What did she do that made you so sure about that? And I take it shutdown means blacklisting huh. Don't want that and don't want to offend / make anyone uncomfortable either. I just want to fulfill a fantasy real quick, nbd.I don't think she'd blacklist you but she'd probably stop communicating and there wouldn't be a date.
The reason I say that is just her general attitude and demeanor when I talked to her at Exxxotica. While I didn't try to set up a date, or talk about BBFS, she was pretty cold when I brought up the subject of "dating a fan".
Of course, it could just have been me. I'm not the best-looking of guys and she might have thought "ew, go away". .
Sounds like she crashed hard. Reminds me of one of my ex's manic episodes. You might dealt with bipolar on an off day? Who the fuck knows. I assume you got out pretty clean MrFrench?See my explanation in another post. Essentially, I got out clean. But it lead to some back and forth on the now defunct porn star discussion board of TER. Before she went UTR. It was a whole thing. It led to her demanding that they pull the review I posted, and then claimed that I "outed" her because she was always UTR. The dickheads at TER put me on a month-long ban taking her side of it which was pretty fucking funny since she was claiming she was UTR just 2 days after posting an ad on the same discussion board.
AQuietExit
12-01-18, 21:26
See my explanation in another post. Essentially, I got out clean. But it lead to some back and forth on the now defunct porn star discussion board of TER. Before she went UTR. It was a whole thing. It led to her demanding that they pull the review I posted, and then claimed that I "outed" her because she was always UTR. The dickheads at TER put me on a month-long ban taking her side of it which was pretty fucking funny since she was claiming she was UTR just 2 days after posting an ad on the same discussion board.Heard on all the posts you made so far. I got some drama to tell you about re: the perfection models shit, if you want to hear it. Waiting on a post mentioning it to be approved.
At that point I would just flat out ask if BBFS CIP is on the menu (unless you want to see the star anyway even if it isn't). If you've already provided verification info and told them you're D / D free and have papers to prove it, they know you're not LE and they know you're serious.Well, actually no, they don't know that you're not LE. LE have ready-made identities that look good on paper so that they can get into places undercover. This is one of the most common misconceptions in this hobby. That verification means not LE. Another common misconception is that once the guy touches you, or you touch him sexually, that you can't be arrested. Total bullshit. The cop can fuck any escort and then turn around and arrest her. Will it hold up in court? Maybe yes, maybe no. There are so many misconceptions about what cops can and cannot do and many people are pretty self-delusional about it. But, I have friends who are cops. And I know some of the stuff they've actually done. Hell, there was a local police department that actually ran a brothel for a year and THEN arrested all the girls and johns.
Either they'll answer you candidly and tell you what's available and what isn't or they'll terminate the convo or they'll warn you about explicit talk and threaten to terminate the convo. Adonia at TLC will tell you to pick some providers and she'll find out for you.That's one of the things I love about Adonia and why I recommend her so highly. She'll actually take time (if she's not too busy with a crunch) to find out what makes the client happy and will go out of her way to make it happen. I know some guys have been blown away after talking to Adonia because Adonia talked them out of seeing particular porn stars on the basis that they wouldn't be happy with her because they aren't compatible! Now, how many agents will talk a guy out of seeing an escort?? This is why Adonia has so much respect in the hobby.
Some are VERY straightforward like Chennin Blanc, Lacey Duvalle, Sexy Vanessa, and Kiki Daire. But they're also older and with the exception of Chennin Blanc charge A LOT.I'm not sure Kiki still does BBFS. I haven't talked to her in two years. She used to. Then she got married and left the hobby. Now I think she's divorced, and back in it, but I'm not sure if she's still as open. When I saw her at Exxxotica a couple of years ago, she had put on a lot of weight, too. As for fees. She was on the lower end. I think it was $800 last I asked. Definitely more than Chennin but a lot less than others charge.
Some who work through agents like Nicolette Shea (NO BBFS but BBBJ according to her assistant BTW as an FYI) aren't going to be so straightforward.Not only no BBFS but no GFE from what I'm told. FWIW, I saw her at Exxxotica and I wouldn't touch her. She looked very skanky. And mostly plastic. She was as shiny as a store mannequin. Definitely not my type at all. Oh, and I've heard her fee is $2500.
That's a great way to put it. Almost meme-like haha.
Coincidentally I was eyeing Kiki Daire but damn if you're saying she's over charging her fame I'll wait or pass.
Just super curious because one of her porn she was saying she has no cervix.I prefer what my father said: "Never treat a woman like a w h o r e, even if she is one. " Grin.
I haven't seen her myself but before she became a pornstar, Katrina was an upscale provider and she used to offer bb as stated in her ads, had to provide papers from what I recall. The strange thing about her back then was that you had to meet her bf before seeing her, for her safety.I've been a member of Adultwork for a while now since I travel to Europe occasionally and one of the things I notice is that a lot of the escorts there are now asking you to book a private cam session with her first. I don't know if it's just a scam to get you to plunk down dollars and she's never going to meet you, or if it's their way of making sure you're real.
AQuietExit
12-01-18, 22:00
I've been a member of Adultwork for a while now since I travel to Europe occasionally and one of the things I notice is that a lot of the escorts there are now asking you to book a private cam session with her first. I don't know if it's just a scam to get you to plunk down dollars and she's never going to meet you, or if it's their way of making sure you're real.I dunno if the cam sessions are pricey but maybe little column a, little column b based on who it is?
SpaspaHunter
12-01-18, 22:49
It is awkward to ask for their papers but if they are asking you for yours, they should be able to reciprocate. One of the nice things about TTS is that they give you an online link and code so you can call the tests up right on your electronic device of choice and view it, or show it to someone else so the papers are there if you someone needs to see them. At least that's the way they did it the last time I got tested by TTS which was about 10 years ago. Since then I've had my own doctor do it because if something does turn up (God forbid), I can get immediate treatment.I think that's what I meant. If you're offering her your papers that means that you're willing to take that risk without asking her for her status assuming that she's clean too. Not sure if she'd be offended by me asking for hers.
I'm tempted to TTS but unless they're specifically asking me for that like if I were a porn star it's pointless to pay extra out of pocket unless they're asking for it.
I've been a member of Adultwork for a while now since I travel to Europe occasionally and one of the things I notice is that a lot of the escorts there are now asking you to book a private cam session with her first. I don't know if it's just a scam to get you to plunk down dollars and she's never going to meet you, or if it's their way of making sure you're real.I've seen some of the profiles on AW and I wouldn't be surprised if some of them were scams given how fake some of them appear. Here in NA, I'm also noticing providers using snapchat / facetime for verification and many of whom have some sort of premium membership set up via snapchat / onlyfans.
SpaspaHunter
12-02-18, 01:11
Well, actually no, they don't know that you're not LE. LE have ready-made identities that look good on paper so that they can get into places undercover. This is one of the most common misconceptions in this hobby. That verification means not LE. Another common misconception is that once the guy touches you, or you touch him sexually, that you can't be arrested. Total bullshit. The cop can fuck any escort and then turn around and arrest her. Will it hold up in court? Maybe yes, maybe no. There are so many misconceptions about what cops can and cannot do and many people are pretty self-delusional about it. But, I have friends who are cops. And I know some of the stuff they've actually done. Hell, there was a local police department that actually ran a brothel for a year and THEN arrested all the girls and johns.
That's one of the things I love about Adonia and why I recommend her so highly. She'll actually take time (if she's not too busy with a crunch) to find out what makes the client happy and will go out of her way to make it happen. I know some guys have been blown away after talking to Adonia because Adonia talked them out of seeing particular porn stars on the basis that they wouldn't be happy with her because they aren't compatible! Now, how many agents will talk a guy out of seeing an escort?? This is why Adonia has so much respect in the hobby.
I'm not sure Kiki still does BBFS. I haven't talked to her in two years. She used to. Then she got married and left the hobby. Now I think she's divorced, and back in it, but I'm not sure if she's still as open. When I saw her at Exxxotica a couple of years ago, she had put on a lot of weight, too. As for fees. She was on the lower end. I think it was $800 last I asked. Definitely more than Chennin but a lot less than others charge.
Not only no BBFS but no GFE from what I'm told. FWIW, I saw her at Exxxotica and I wouldn't touch her. She looked very skanky. And mostly plastic. She was as shiny as a store mannequin. Definitely not my type at all. Oh, and I've heard her fee is $2500.Should I introduce myself to Adonia even if I might not be able to see any of the girls?
I believe Kiki is higher than that now.
2500 is crazy because shit she's rank 50 on Pornhub.
KingOfFours
12-02-18, 11:45
KingOfFours: your tastes and mine seem to differ a lot. The leads you've given me in the past have never worked out. Either the numbers changed, or they weren't available, or they weren't my type. I won't be back in the Philly area for a while so maybe next time.There are SO many girls now that are either playing hard-to-get, or else are only advertising on the "civilian" dating sites, or else have become referral only, post-SESTA. Sorry the previous ones I sent never worked out for you.
But if you get up to Providence in the near future, I've got a mid-20's big natural tit little full-GFE cutie, who will rawdog for 100 hh, who is now UTR. At least 3 others have inseminated her recently, besides myself. Here are a couple pics. I can send face pics with tits, etc, and contact info, if you are going to be in Providence, if you want to contact me privately. She does have some minor stretch marks and her belly is a tad thicker than you might expect from the clothed picture I attached below. But that pic is from just last month. I do think she will be around for a while--she's younger than most of those I've found recently, and maybe she would be more your type?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NVKuVCqFJE10AHXrQLMbhUy4nRo6l3e9/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TkmPqbjnjDkWgZ2VyYAcukzR3oIbP79W/view?usp=sharing
Hines Karlton
12-02-18, 16:41
LOL at paying 2500/2000.
Keep being an ATM machine for these ladies.
The porn companies don't even pay them that.
They pay them 800-100 which you can get at any 9-5 job.
But here you are paying them 2000-2500 because they appeared on pornhub and xvideo.
BBPornoGeek
12-02-18, 19:48
No go on BB. Adamantly refuses it but she did get scolded by Gaga on my way out for refusing BB with me. Angel was previously known as Daria. Greek is tight as fuck though for an extra benji.
There are SO many girls now that are either playing hard-to-get, or else are only advertising on the "civilian" dating sites, or else have become referral only, post-SESTA. Sorry the previous ones I sent never worked out for you.
But if you get up to Providence in the near future, I've got a mid-20's big natural tit little full-GFE cutie, who will rawdog for 100 hh, who is now UTR. At least 3 others have inseminated her recently, besides myself. Here are a couple pics. I can send face pics with tits, etc, and contact info, if you are going to be in Providence, if you want to contact me privately. She does have some minor stretch marks and her belly is a tad thicker than you might expect from the clothed picture I attached below. But that pic is from just last month. I do think she will be around for a while--she's younger than most of those I've found recently, and maybe she would be more your type?
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1NVKuVCqFJE10AHXrQLMbhUy4nRo6l3e9/view?usp=sharing
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1TkmPqbjnjDkWgZ2VyYAcukzR3oIbP79W/view?usp=sharingWon't be in Providence any time soon. So, thanks but no thanks.
LOL at paying 2500/2000.
Keep being an ATM machine for these ladies.
The porn companies don't even pay them that.
They pay them 800-100 which you can get at any 9-5 job.
But here you are paying them 2000-2500 because they appeared on pornhub and xvideo.You're paying for the '"celebrity" status. Truth be told, there are plenty of guys out there who will pay that much and more for an "introduction" to a hot celebrity that they've got a crush on. I know one guy who paid $10 K for an "introduction" to one of the actresses who was on the older version of Charmed (and no, I won't say who). Claims to have bedded her too but I don't know about that. In any case, some guys do think with their little heads.
As I've said many times, most porn stars are in the $1200-1500 range. You can sometimes negotiate down. And sometimes, if you're respectful and courteous, etc. You can get them to stay longer than the hour for no extra.
FWIW, porn stars negotiate contracts and have agents that have to get paid. So, they typically get paid anywhere from $1000 - $2000 per scene if they are an "established" actress with some getting paid more.
SpaspaHunter
12-03-18, 10:20
LOL at paying 2500/2000.
Keep being an ATM machine for these ladies.
The porn companies don't even pay them that.
They pay them 800-100 which you can get at any 9-5 job.
But here you are paying them 2000-2500 because they appeared on pornhub and xvideo.You're just as much an ATM giving 300-600 or what not to your Russian eros girls.
Like MrFrench says, it's all about the celebrity status and as KingofFours mentioned, you can find porn stars that are more market rate.
AQuietExit
12-03-18, 18:44
Personally I just want to see some of my favorites stars and knock them off my bucketlist before I'm done with schooling and move onto whatever career path I want to go for. I'm not going to have time for that shit, or any of this hobby really, whenever I get there, so I'm just frontloading it now.
Kinosellis
12-05-18, 13:18
Does anyone know if Ashley does videos? Gina Rollins will give you a video session if you request it. I wonder if Ashely would allow it too. She sounds very submissive. So I'm thinking she might let it go.
ShawnRespert
12-05-18, 22:11
I have to say she is to me she's the best BBFS provider and gives a decent message as well. It's 220 the hour she's a really lovely lady.Contact info, please?
UncleThrax
12-06-18, 13:18
Does anyone know if Ashley does videos? Gina Rollins will give you a video session if you request it. I wonder if Ashely would allow it too. She sounds very submissive. So I'm thinking she might let it go.You can ask her assistant Anna, but given that she actively models and competes under an alter ego, she probably doesn't want to risk any possibility of her identity as an escort getting out. So I doubt it.
She might be ok with it though.
I found her info on Twitter and have made some correspondence with her. She is touring NYC around the 15th and is confirmed open to BBFS cip upon her fetish. I'll try to schedule to see her and let you guys know how it goes. She is also from Philly, so can any of you guys that frequent the area confirm this.
Depending on how things are I may pay extra to record the session as a keepsake.
I found her info on Twitter and have made some correspondence with her. She is touring NYC around the 15th and is confirmed open to BBFS cip upon her fetish. I'll try to schedule to see her and let you guys know how it goes. She is also from Philly, so can any of you guys that frequent the area confirm this.
Depending on how things are I may pay extra to record the session as a keepsake.What is the damage for the hour and is BBFS CIP extra (Total). Does she have any requirements. IE: test results. I have been eyeing her for a minute and didn't know she was open to BBFS.
I may have to see her if she does. Thanks for the heads up on this one.
I found her info on Twitter and have made some correspondence with her. She is touring NYC around the 15th and is confirmed open to BBFS cip upon her fetish. I'll try to schedule to see her and let you guys know how it goes. She is also from Philly, so can any of you guys that frequent the area confirm this.
Depending on how things are I may pay extra to record the session as a keepsake.Please do, she seems like fun.
SpaspaHunter
12-06-18, 15:32
I found her info on Twitter and have made some correspondence with her. She is touring NYC around the 15th and is confirmed open to BBFS cip upon her fetish. I'll try to schedule to see her and let you guys know how it goes. She is also from Philly, so can any of you guys that frequent the area confirm this.
Depending on how things are I may pay extra to record the session as a keepsake.She asks for a non-negotiable deposit though so if that's not an issue she seems like a gem.
UncleThrax
12-06-18, 17:28
I found her info on Twitter and have made some correspondence with her. She is touring NYC around the 15th and is confirmed open to BBFS cip upon her fetish. I'll try to schedule to see her and let you guys know how it goes. She is also from Philly, so can any of you guys that frequent the area confirm this.
Depending on how things are I may pay extra to record the session as a keepsake.Can't seem to find her as there's several, can you provide her Twitter handle?
SpaspaHunter
12-06-18, 18:58
Can't seem to find her as there's several, can you provide her Twitter handle?/ MandyPhilly tour dates confirm.
If you are new here with one post don't pm asking for Lisa's number cause I won't give it you until you contribute a bit on here or have some real info to trade with me. For all I know your a fucking pig and I'm not interested in giving my friends info out to the wrong people.
Can't seem to find her as there's several, can you provide her Twitter handle?Got a switter under at MandyLynnePhilly.
Wild Walleye
12-06-18, 21:07
Personally I just want to see some of my favorites stars and knock them off my bucketlist before I'm done with schooling and move onto whatever career path I want to go for. I'm not going to have time for that shit, or any of this hobby really, whenever I get there, so I'm just frontloading it now.Good luck with that. You don't know the itch until you're 40-something an up to your ass in South American hotties. For the first few years, after my (20-year) marriage broke up, I was probably good for 100-200 new chicas per year.
I found her info on Twitter and have made some correspondence with her. She is touring NYC around the 15th and is confirmed open to BBFS cip upon her fetish. I'll try to schedule to see her and let you guys know how it goes. She is also from Philly, so can any of you guys that frequent the area confirm this.
Depending on how things are I may pay extra to record the session as a keepsake.If this is Mandy Lynn from http://mandylynnegfephilly.freeescortsite.com be VERY careful. I contacted her recently when I was going to be in the area and I've gotten nothing but SPAM from her email address since. Seems like a scammer especially if she's asking for a deposit up front.
Got a switter under at MandyLynnePhilly.That's the I'd that led me to the website I posted, which has led to nothing but SPAM.
BBPornoGeek
12-06-18, 22:58
If you are new here with one post don't pm asking for Lisa's number cause I won't give it you until you contribute a bit on here or have some real info to trade with me. For all I know your a fucking pig and I'm not interested in giving my friends info out to the wrong people.Good on you! So many 1 posters asking for details these days. Bet a bunch of them are LEs as well. I never respond to any of them until they provide credible reports.
Good on you! So many 1 posters asking for details these days. Bet a bunch of them are LEs as well. I never respond to any of them until they provide credible reports.Word shit is starting to piss me off help out toward the cause of entering pussies bare and I'll gladly give you info ask anyone here I rarely turn anyone down on here. Please people if any of these new one posters come up don't give them shit.
SpaspaHunter
12-06-18, 23:41
If this is Mandy Lynn from http://mandylynnegfephilly.freeescortsite.com be VERY careful. I contacted her recently when I was going to be in the area and I've gotten nothing but SPAM from her email address since. Seems like a scammer especially if she's asking for a deposit up front.Just have to point out that not all girls that ask for deposits are scammers. From their point of view there's too many bad apples just as well that book and do a no show.
Also she seems to have content out so that lessens the chance of her being a fake in my books. Quality of service on the other hand would be a different story.
That's why I tell you that if your references will vouch for you that you're good and not going to do a no show then that deposit usually can be waived.
End of the day, bills still need to be paid especially when they touring they just want to be sure you're not going to flake. Though I hate when they flake or radio silent on me.
I tell girls straight up that if you 100% need a deposit, then guess we're not meant to see each other because I have no way to do it for them.
She asks for a non-negotiable deposit though so if that's not an issue she seems like a gem.It's not that bad. And since she seems legit so I'll take a chance. Plus she does seem like a lot of fun based on her site.
KingOfFours
12-07-18, 10:01
This lady is not in NYC, but pretty close, she is often in the Edison, NJ area. She also gets to the Philly suburbs, which is why I'm interested.
http://jessrabbit2010.escorts.biz/contact/
I would very much like to know if anyone has succeeded in getting BBFS with her? Or if anyone has ever tried?
And if you ever get up to Providence, RI, or to the Philly area, there are several for BBFS I can recommend, if you are contributing seniors, and want to trade info.
But I'm mainly interested in finding more in the Philly area!I TOFTT and answered my own question: Getting bare cock into her cunnt was impossible. No DFK either, despite the bullshit monkeyshit reviews. She's a nice lady, but both looks and service were disappointing. Ad pictures are deceiving as well, there is much baby damage. She did provide a decent BBBJCIM. But I will NEVER wear a rubber tournequet, so 225 was AWFULLY expensive just for a blow job. : (.
Does anyone know what the difference between her GFE and Pse services are? Is BBFS on the menu for both? Asking for a friend
VidLover69
12-07-18, 12:21
Does anyone know what the difference between her GFE and Pse services are? Is BBFS on the menu for both? Asking for a friendI think it is just Greek for Gina.
UncleThrax
12-07-18, 13:37
Does anyone know what the difference between her GFE and Pse services are? Is BBFS on the menu for both? Asking for a friendI believe PSE includes a trip to Greece but in any case, when I contacted her directly she said she charges a flat rate of 400. I don't think she's updated her website in some time, especially since I got everything on the menu for 400 when I went to see her for the first time.
JohnnyNuemonic
12-07-18, 13:37
Does anyone know what the difference between her GFE and Pse services are? Is BBFS on the menu for both? Asking for a friendSupposedly anal, but others have reported getting it no problem.
I spoke to her about 6 months ago when I was down near Philly. She was definitely open to BBFS, CIP, greek, but wanted 1 k for everything including video. Didn't end up seeing her.
I have been seeing the acronym BBF on Switter both in handles and lists of services. Does anyone know what they mean? Is it a short version of BBFS? The online dictionaries only give Best Buddy Forever which seems very unlikely.
I believe PSE includes a trip to Greece but in any case, when I contacted her directly she said she charges a flat rate of 400. I don't think she's updated her website in some time, especially since I got everything on the menu for 400 when I went to see her for the first time.Yes, PSE means Greek, but I've always been confused by Gina and her friends. BBgreek isn't my thing, but it is definitely included with Gina for $400, and I get the feeling it is with Alexis Cain as well. It's odd though because Gina would ask me in advance if I want GFE or pse, and then even though I prefer GFE she (and Alexis) were both begging basically for greek. I don't even know what the expectation is if that scenario were to play out. I'd just leave 500, but I almost expect Gina's try to give some back. Have heard plenty of stories of Gina giving guys back a bit of cash if they left after half an hour, etc.
Kinosellis
12-07-18, 18:59
Supposedly anal, but others have reported getting it no problem.She does not upcharge so you can do whatever you want. Including Greek. Feel free to enter any hole and cum anywhere. She's always going to satisfy you. I personally didn't because I'm not that into anal. But it's there for the taking.
Just have to point out that not all girls that ask for deposits are scammers..Well, maybe not.
But, in this case.
In response to a request to set up a date, I received one message asking me for money for videos and pics. And I received another message asking me to send her $10 as a "tip" to subscribe to receive pics and videos on a regular basis, etc.
Not one word in response to my request to set up a date. Not one word in answer to the questions I asked regarding availability.
All of that, coupled with the fact that she is asking for a deposit from someone who asked for a date, makes me very, very, very, suspicious.
As far as deposits for dates go: it's never going to happen as far as I'm concerned. There is absolutely no upside for me, and no way to get it back if the girl never shows up.
Does anyone know what the difference between her GFE and Pse services are? Is BBFS on the menu for both? Asking for a friendI asked her about that. To her "PSE" means Greek. BBFS is always on the menu.
BBPornoGeek
12-07-18, 22:59
Does anyone know what the difference between her GFE and Pse services are? Is BBFS on the menu for both? Asking for a friendJust straight up 400. There's no extra charge. PSE is really and old entry on the website from long ago. All holes open at the regular rate, cum anywhere, fuck however you like.
I have been seeing the acronym BBF on Switter both in handles and lists of services. Does anyone know what they mean? Is it a short version of BBFS? The online dictionaries only give Best Buddy Forever which seems very unlikely.BBF stands for bareback f-cking.
UncleThrax
12-08-18, 09:16
Just straight up 400. There's no extra charge. PSE is really and old entry on the website from long ago. All holes open at the regular rate, cum anywhere, fuck however you like.Exactly, when I emailed her directly for the first time everything was open season for 400 an hour.
UncleThrax did you get in contact with Liza and if you see her please leave a review I'd like to hear how it went.
UncleThrax
12-11-18, 04:31
UncleThrax did you get in contact with Liza and if you see her please leave a review I'd like to hear how it went.No I didn't because I don't have her contact info and location. If someone can send it to me I'll check her out and post a review.
UncleThrax
12-11-18, 11:03
So, I've previously expressed my disdain in dealing with booking agents for obvious reasons. While I've generally found that most of them are not as bad as I expect, I have to say that one agent in particular is the sole reason for my negative view on dealing with them and desire to avoid them overall. This agent was the first one I had ever dealt with and I recently had the unpleasant surprise of having to deal with them again.
Going by the name of Chloe and the number 646-XXX-3695, this person claims to work for an agency that represents numerous high end adult stars including some such as Kendra Lust, Brooklyn Chase, Ava Addams and Kaylani Lei.
This agent is particularly adamant in not discussing details of service, however this is not the problem in dealing with them. This individual is extremely nasty, unwarrantedly disrespectful and insulting and immediately launches into a tirade of insults, calling my listed references "low rent providers", attempting to gaslight you when you don't simply agree to blindly hand over money, and exhibits ridiculously aggressive and rude behavior for no reason. On top of that Chloe threatened to blacklist me and tarnish my RS-AVS info with a bad review.
Those of you who have seen my posts know that I'm not one to do or say anything that warrants that kind of reaction or response.
It's unbelievable that an agent this insane somehow has business. I highly recommend avoiding them at all costs.
Hunter Jay
12-11-18, 12:49
So, I've previously expressed my disdain in dealing with booking agents for obvious reasons. While I've generally found that most of them are not as bad as I expect, I have to say that one agent in particular is the sole reason for my negative view on dealing with them and desire to avoid them overall. This agent was the first one I had ever dealt with and I recently had the unpleasant surprise of having to deal with them again.
Going by the name of Chloe and the number 646-XXX-3695, this person claims to work for an agency that represents numerous high end adult stars including some such as Kendra Lust, Brooklyn Chase, Ava Addams and Kaylani Lei.
This agent is particularly adamant in not discussing details of service, however this is not the problem in dealing with them. This individual is extremely nasty, unwarrantedly disrespectful and insulting and immediately launches into a tirade of insults, calling my listed references "low rent providers", attempting to gaslight you when you don't simply agree to blindly hand over money, and exhibits ridiculously aggressive and rude behavior for no reason. On top of that Chloe threatened to blacklist me and tarnish my RS-AVS info with a bad review..None of these women escort I wish Kendra Lust would escort but it will never happen.
No I didn't because I don't have her contact info and location. If someone can send it to me I'll check her out and post a review.You remember you pmd me and I sent you the info you needed. Did You not get the info I sent you
UncleThrax
12-11-18, 15:10
You remember you pmd me and I sent you the info you needed. Did You not get the info I sent youI hadn't checked my PMs. I just did, thanks. I'll give her a text and will post a review once I see her thanks!
SpaspaHunter
12-11-18, 16:32
So, I've previously expressed my disdain in dealing with booking agents for obvious reasons. While I've generally found that most of them are not as bad as I expect, I have to say that one agent in particular is the sole reason for my negative view on dealing with them and desire to avoid them overall. This agent was the first one I had ever dealt with and I recently had the unpleasant surprise of having to deal with them again.
Going by the name of Chloe and the number 646-XXX-3695, this person claims to work for an agency that represents numerous high end adult stars including some such as Kendra Lust, Brooklyn Chase, Ava Addams and Kaylani Lei.
This agent is particularly adamant in not discussing details of service, however this is not the problem in dealing with them. This individual is extremely nasty, unwarrantedly disrespectful and insulting and immediately launches into a tirade of insults, calling my listed references "low rent providers", attempting to gaslight you when you don't simply agree to blindly hand over money, and exhibits ridiculously aggressive and rude behavior for no reason. On top of that Chloe threatened to blacklist me and tarnish my RS-AVS info with a bad review.
Those of you who have seen my posts know that I'm not one to do or say anything that warrants that kind of reaction or response.
It's unbelievable that an agent this insane somehow has business. I highly recommend avoiding them at all costs.I think I know which one you're talking about 4 X2? I saw the number and how most of them tag with VIP at the end similar so I avoided those. I don't like it when they listing as independent when they're being managed.
UncleThrax
12-11-18, 16:47
I think I know which one you're talking about 4 X2? I saw the number and how most of them tag with VIP at the end similar so I avoided those. I don't like it when they listing as independent when they're being managed.Yep, I didn't realize that they were all managed by Chloe. Now I'll pay more attention.
Honestly, I hope that "Chloe" earns a bad reputation and ends up getting blacklisted and loses all "her" talent as a result.
None of these women escort I wish Kendra Lust would escort but it will never happen.Kendra Lust does provide as do the others he named. Or at least they used to provide. Kendra used to be available through Pamela Peak's agency and the others through various other agencies. There used to be reviews...
So, I've previously expressed my disdain in dealing with booking agents for obvious reasons. While I've generally found that most of them are not as bad as I expect, I have to say that one agent in particular is the sole reason for my negative view on dealing with them and desire to avoid them overall. This agent was the first one I had ever dealt with and I recently had the unpleasant surprise of having to deal with them again.
Going by the name of Chloe and the number 646-XXX-3695, this person claims to work for an agency that represents numerous high end adult stars including some such as Kendra Lust, Brooklyn Chase, Ava Addams and Kaylani Lei.
This agent is particularly adamant in not discussing details of service, however this is not the problem in dealing with them. This individual is extremely nasty, unwarrantedly disrespectful and insulting and immediately launches into a tirade of insults, calling my listed references "low rent providers", attempting to gaslight you when you don't simply agree to blindly hand over money, and exhibits ridiculously aggressive and rude behavior for no reason. On top of that Chloe threatened to blacklist me and tarnish my RS-AVS info with a bad review.
Those of you who have seen my posts know that I'm not one to do or say anything that warrants that kind of reaction or response.
It's unbelievable that an agent this insane somehow has business. I highly recommend avoiding them at all costs.LMFAO. "Chloe" is the front name for Perfection Models. If you have ever been on TER in the porn discussion group, you would know the reputation this agency has and it's NOT good. FWIW, "Chloe" is usually a dude, although he sometimes has women answering the emails and the phone. The owner of this agency is well known for the tactics you described, and has also been rumored to blackmail clients. He has also, supposedly, beaten clients and some of his girls, most notably his "girlfriend" who is one of the top escorts on his site. I've had numerous verbal exchanges on TER with the owner of this agency and not only would Hell freeze over before I recommended this agency but Satan would have to ride to work in a sleigh being pulled by eight tiny elephants wearing pink tutus and green tennis shoes. LOL.
If you are interested in porn stars, I STRONGLY advice you to try Adonia at TheLuxuryCompanion.com. She is nothing at all like "Chloe". I've had lunch with Adonia and hung out with her at Exxxotica a few times and I've booked stars through her. She's a real person unlike "Chloe". And, she's interested in client satisfaction. You will be pleasantly surprised.
Yep, I didn't realize that they were all managed by Chloe. Now I'll pay more attention.
Honestly, I hope that "Chloe" earns a bad reputation and ends up getting blacklisted and loses all "her" talent as a result."Chloe" and Perfection Models already has a bad reputation for anyone who is "in the know" and for those who hung out on the porn discussion board on TER. "She" (who is really a "he") won't lose their talent though as the mainstay is his girlfriend and her friends. But, they should be avoided.
As I've said: try TheLuxuryCompanion.com.
UncleThrax
12-11-18, 18:33
LMFAO. "Chloe" is the front name for Perfection Models. If you have ever been on TER in the porn discussion group, you would know the reputation this agency has and it's NOT good. FWIW, "Chloe" is usually a dude, although he sometimes has women answering the emails and the phone. The owner of this agency is well known for the tactics you described, and has also been rumored to blackmail clients. He has also, supposedly, beaten clients and some of his girls, most notably his "girlfriend" who is one of the top escorts on his site. I've had numerous verbal exchanges on TER with the owner of this agency and not only would Hell freeze over before I recommended this agency but Satan would have to ride to work in a sleigh being pulled by eight tiny elephants wearing pink tutus and green tennis shoes. LOL.
If you are interested in porn stars, I STRONGLY advice you to try Adonia at TheLuxuryCompanion.com. She is nothing at all like "Chloe". I've had lunch with Adonia and hung out with her at Exxxotica a few times and I've booked stars through her. She's a real person unlike "Chloe". And, she's interested in client satisfaction. You will be pleasantly surprised.Had no idea who this scumbag was as I've never really used TER beyond basic searching, and I honestly had no intention of trying again after my first run in with him. Thanks for the info.
Hello fellow mongers.
I've been away from the NYC scene for a while now and I was wondering if you guys could point me in the right direction. I'm looking for the best BBFS provider that's 300 or below. I know of some but I wanted to put some feelers out there to see if there is anyone I have missed. I'd happily trade info for info just pm me and we can work something out.
Thanks,
Stayhrny.
UncleThrax
12-11-18, 19:58
"Chloe" and Perfection Models already has a bad reputation for anyone who is "in the know" and for those who hung out on the porn discussion board on TER. "She" (who is really a "he") won't lose their talent though as the mainstay is his girlfriend and her friends. But, they should be avoided.
As I've said: try TheLuxuryCompanion.com.Yep, I already am aware of TLC, and had I remembered my first experience with Chloe and had I known that the VIP email and that phone number were associated with him, I would have steered clear. I definitely know better now and will do. Thanks again.
Summerinthecity
12-12-18, 17:53
She does not upcharge so you can do whatever you want. Including Greek. Feel free to enter any hole and cum anywhere. She's always going to satisfy you. I personally didn't because I'm not that into anal. But it's there for the taking.I have always experience $$ for everything, including a six pack of corona that came back out as watersports.
I had Gina Rollins, Alexis Cain, Ingrid, Ashley Talor, Asian Gina and Gaga BBFS regualarly in the past 10 years. Two weeks ago I had an unamed girl at asian sensation. Gaga was on break. I asked the "mother" for anither BBFS and she asked me to come by. The girl does not have an official name as she was new. I BBFS her. Last week I caled again to inquire about other BBFS. She just told me it is up to me to convince the girls. I assume she implied there are many more BBFS at asian sensation.
I also BBFS Sofia and Aiko from GC now diamomd desire. Last time CIA Sofia two months ago. She gained a lot of pounds. She told me she is retiring temporaly to take care of her mom.
Hunter Jay
12-13-18, 00:25
Kendra Lust does provide as do the others he named. Or at least they used to provide. Kendra used to be available through Pamela Peak's agency and the others through various other agencies. There used to be reviews...I have to do some research on Kendra Lust.
Tex Longhorn
12-13-18, 01:44
I came across this website recently quite by accident when I was looking for information on another provider. I've been in this hobby for about 10 years and I never knew there were this many BBFS providers around. Some of these girls I have been with in the past and never knew what they offered. I will dispense some of my experiences:
Ashley Taylor. I first started seeing her about 10 years ago just for the BJs but in recent years I found it more difficult to schedule with her. I did just see her last week finally. I walked in and she looked a little different like she had some work done on her face. She remembered from all the years ago and as I was hopping into the bed she said to just let her know if there was anything special I wanted. I let her proceed with her BJ for a while, and then I ate her out until she had her orgasm. She then blew me some more and then I put her on her back and just slid right in. We did missionary and doggie until I pulled out and blew in her mouth. She wants to satisfy but it doesn't seem like she really gets into it. The only sounds she makes is some squeaks and whimpers. As for the question about whether or not she allows recording, I don't know. YMMV but she keeps the room very dark so I doubt you would be able to view anything later.
Ingrid. She said absolutely no to BBFS. There was also rumors on another board that she provides free services to some people that provide overwhelming positive reviews.
Gina Rollins. I have read lately about her openness to BBFS, but when I met her 10 years ago, I had no knowledge. During our second round, I was on top of her rubbing my cock on her pussy. She was just giving me this look like she was waiting for me to slip in but I was hesitant and just did it covered except for the BJs.
Geena Bella. I had BBFS with her on a regular basis and she was really into it. She also liked gag bangs although I didn't partake. Her numbers are all disconnected now and I think she moved to Florida.
Krista here in Westchester. No to BBFS, but gives awesome blowjobs. She loves jizz all over her. She is older (55+) but has an insatiable appetite and likes 2 guys at once. No greek.
UTR retired pornstar. I saw her advertising on a site once and I couldn't believe it because I had always fantasized about her. I quickly contacted her via email and met her at a hotel in Tribeca. On my first visit, sex was covered but bare BJ. On her next "tour" she didn't advertise but emailed me directly. I went to see her and we were getting really hot and heavy and she screamed that she wanted my cock and so I just stuck it in. It was incredible. She told me afterwards that I was the only one that had come to see her during that first tour and that she hadn't been laid in a year and half. We stay in contact but I haven't been able to see her in about 2 years because of personal reasons on her end. She is not a regular provider.
Janine Lindenmulder. Some say she is too mechanical but I didn't experience that. I had an awesome time with her twice. The second time, she almost slipped it in bare. I can't really get over all the tattoos but she still has the hottest body. It is incredible.
Jill Kelly. No BBFS but an awesome time nonetheless. She is retired now for the past few years.
Raquel Devine. Probably the most fun pornstar I have been with. She stays in shape. Never had kids. Her body is incredible. BBFS is on the table but you need to establish a good rapport with her first. Then you will be directed to a place to get tested. She has too be able to login and see the results.
As for agencies, I have used a few. I see some discussion about "Chloe". I had never had an issue with that agency, just maybe a couple of the girls. The prices are a bit too high, so I haven't used the as much but I did have great experiences with Puma Swede (allowed video), Bridgette B, Alexis Ford, and some others. There was one girl who was forgettable. I honestly can't even remember her name. I saw her during a late morning appointment. She basically fell asleep. I know these girls are night owls, but then don't make morning appointments.
I may remember more shit later but its late.
I know I'm a newbie here and I don't have much street cred, but if anyone has info on Erica James here in NYC and wants to share, that would be great! That is who I was originally looking for a review.
Kinosellis
12-13-18, 10:18
I'd like to add that I've had a number of experiences with BBFS in years past with different people. It was definitely a YMMV situation. I know that they've been discussed before and they were very clear that they do not offer bb. I can't say their names cause they do not openly offer it and it was definitely not planned, so it'd pretty much wreck my personal situation.
But, I thought it was worth noting that it happens when you develop a rapport with someone for what it's worth. But, with a lot of these women you'll be let down if you're walking in expecting it. Even women that I've had in the past may not necessarily offer it again in the future.
I also BBFS Sofia and Aiko from GC now diamomd desire. Last time CIA Sofia two months ago. She gained a lot of pounds. She told me she is retiring temporaly to take care of her mom.Does anyone know if Savannah Rae at Diamond Desires does BBFS?
Noticed these obviously fake ads and wondered what is going on. Anyone know what is going on here? Are they selling something? Trying to trap punters? L. E. ?
https://escortbabylon.net/#newyork / post /7176077830/27890395/27890395.
https://escortbabylon.net/#newyork / post /0000234503/27965257/27965257.
I think girls were more comfortable to answer the BBFS question on ter. Went through my messages, and I saw some hard no, maybe and soft yes. Hope fosta will be reverse.
Hello honey. I would love to meet. Where is best? Do you have a reference?
XOXOXO.
Me:
I have looking to meet you. I think the time maybe right. Looking for the ultimate GFE / fuul service with CREAM on top of PIE.
I deleted my ter infos as well her name. I ended up creampie her in one hour session including in her ass. Of course she does not advertise BBFS or creampie nor she does not want publicity. Over the year we are very close. Ahe want her privacy. My other ATF Gina on the other diea not care about her privacy.
RE from her: I am full service, I just don't offer greek.
Me:
I wish you were a full service. Just asking.
Ended up fucking her bare on one condition or two: don't come inside and don't tell.
Really miss Ter. Most of the BBFS I had where open to answer that question on ter rather via text or phone call. And they ask me shut my mouth.
UncleThrax
12-13-18, 17:07
I came across this website recently quite by accident when I was looking for information on another provider. I've been in this hobby for about 10 years and I never knew there were this many BBFS providers around. Some of these girls I have been with in the past and never knew what they offered. I will dispense some of my experiences:
Ashley Taylor. I first started seeing her about 10 years ago just for the BJs but in recent years I found it more difficult to schedule with her. I did just see her last week finally. I walked in and she looked a little different like she had some work done on her face. She remembered from all the years ago and as I was hopping into the bed she said to just let her know if there was anything special I wanted. I let her proceed with her BJ for a while, and then I ate her out until she had her orgasm. She then blew me some more and then I put her on her back and just slid right in. We did missionary and doggie until I pulled out and blew in her mouth. She wants to satisfy but it doesn't seem like she really gets into it. The only sounds she makes is some squeaks and whimpers. As for the question about whether or not she allows recording, I don't know. YMMV but she keeps the room very dark so I doubt you would be able to view anything later.
Ingrid. She said absolutely no to BBFS. There was also rumors on another board that she provides free services to some people that provide overwhelming positive reviews.
Gina Rollins. I have read lately about her openness to BBFS, but when I met her 10 years ago, I had no knowledge. During our second round, I was on top of her rubbing my cock on her pussy. She was just giving me this look like she was waiting for me to slip in but I was hesitant and just did it covered except for the BJs.
Geena Bella. I had BBFS with her on a regular basis and she was really into it. She also liked gag bangs although I didn't partake. Her numbers are all disconnected now and I think she moved to Florida.
Krista here in Westchester. No to BBFS, but gives awesome blowjobs. She loves jizz all over her. She is older (55+) but has an insatiable appetite and likes 2 guys at once. No greek.
UTR retired pornstar. I saw her advertising on a site once and I couldn't believe it because I had always fantasized about her. I quickly contacted her via email and met her at a hotel in Tribeca. On my first visit, sex was covered but bare BJ. On her next "tour" she didn't advertise but emailed me directly. I went to see her and we were getting really hot and heavy and she screamed that she wanted my cock and so I just stuck it in. It was incredible. She told me afterwards that I was the only one that had come to see her during that first tour and that she hadn't been laid in a year and half. We stay in contact but I haven't been able to see her in about 2 years because of personal reasons on her end. She is not a regular provider.
Janine Lindenmulder. Some say she is too mechanical but I didn't experience that. I had an awesome time with her twice. The second time, she almost slipped it in bare. I can't really get over all the tattoos but she still has the hottest body. It is incredible.
Jill Kelly. No BBFS but an awesome time nonetheless. She is retired now for the past few years.
Raquel Devine. Probably the most fun pornstar I have been with. She stays in shape. Never had kids. Her body is incredible. BBFS is on the table but you need to establish a good rapport with her first. Then you will be directed to a place to get tested. She has too be able to login and see the results.
As for agencies, I have used a few. I see some discussion about "Chloe". I had never had an issue with that agency, just maybe a couple of the girls. The prices are a bit too high, so I haven't used the as much but I did have great experiences with Puma Swede (allowed video), Bridgette B, Alexis Ford, and some others. There was one girl who was forgettable. I honestly can't even remember her name. I saw her during a late morning appointment. She basically fell asleep. I know these girls are night owls, but then don't make morning appointments.
I may remember more shit later but its late.
I know I'm a newbie here and I don't have much street cred, but if anyone has info on Erica James here in NYC and wants to share, that would be great! That is who I was originally looking for a review.I recently inquired about Raquel Devine. Her agent got back to me, and much to my surprise, informed me that BBFSCIP was available at a premium rate with recent tests. No greek and no multi hour discounts though.
Nonetheless, it was nice dealing with an agent who was straightforward and willing to work with you.
Dreamcoil27
12-13-18, 18:36
Does anyone know if April of KissApril is willing to do BBFSCIP and / or bare Greek and CIA?I've tried before with her and it was a no go. Still great dfk, BBBJ, and fuck (tho covered).
Ashley Taylor. I first started seeing her about 10 years ago just for the BJs but in recent years I found it more difficult to schedule with her. I did just see her last week finally. I walked in and she looked a little different like she had some work done on her face. She remembered from all the years ago and as I was hopping into the bed she said to just let her know if there was anything special I wanted. I let her proceed with her BJ for a while, and then I ate her out until she had her orgasm. She then blew me some more and then I put her on her back and just slid right in. We did missionary and doggie until I pulled out and blew in her mouth. She wants to satisfy but it doesn't seem like she really gets into it.
This is a pretty solid and accurate review of Ashley. I have seen her a few times in recent months and while I really like my time with her I wish she was more engaged with the session. Not a knock and I will see her again just an observation.
Noticed these obviously fake ads and wondered what is going on. Anyone know what is going on here? Are they selling something? Trying to trap punters? L. E. ?
https://escortbabylon.net/#newyork / post /7176077830/27890395/27890395.
https://escortbabylon.net/#newyork / post /0000234503/27965257/27965257.Neither of those urls worked for me, even with removing the spaces.
FWIW escortbabylon has a lot of "honeypot" ads: these are ads that are designed to get you to reply to them so that the poster can harvest your email address to send you spam. Switter seems to have the same problem.
I came across this website recently quite by accident when I was looking for information on another provider. I've been in this hobby for about 10 years and I never knew there were this many BBFS providers around. Some of these girls I have been with in the past and never knew what they offered. I will dispense some of my experiences:
Ashley Taylor. I first started seeing her about 10 years ago just for the BJs but in recent years I found it more difficult to schedule with her. I did just see her last week finally. I walked in and she looked a little different like she had some work done on her face. She remembered from all the years ago and as I was hopping into the bed she said to just let her know if there was anything special I wanted. I let her proceed with her BJ for a while, and then I ate her out until she had her orgasm. She then blew me some more and then I put her on her back and just slid right in. We did missionary and doggie until I pulled out and blew in her mouth. She wants to satisfy but it doesn't seem like she really gets into it. The only sounds she makes is some squeaks and whimpers. As for the question about whether or not she allows recording, I don't know. YMMV but she keeps the room very dark so I doubt you would be able to view anything later.
Ingrid. She said absolutely no to BBFS. There was also rumors on another board that she provides free services to some people that provide overwhelming positive reviews.
Gina Rollins. I have read lately about her openness to BBFS, but when I met her 10 years ago, I had no knowledge. During our second round, I was on top of her rubbing my cock on her pussy. She was just giving me this look like she was waiting for me to slip in but I was hesitant and just did it covered except for the BJs.
Geena Bella. I had BBFS with her on a regular basis and she was really into it. She also liked gag bangs although I didn't partake. Her numbers are all disconnected now and I think she moved to Florida.
Krista here in Westchester. No to BBFS, but gives awesome blowjobs. She loves jizz all over her. She is older (55+) but has an insatiable appetite and likes 2 guys at once. No greek.
UTR retired pornstar. I saw her advertising on a site once and I couldn't believe it because I had always fantasized about her. I quickly contacted her via email and met her at a hotel in Tribeca. On my first visit, sex was covered but bare BJ. On her next "tour" she didn't advertise but emailed me directly. I went to see her and we were getting really hot and heavy and she screamed that she wanted my cock and so I just stuck it in. It was incredible. She told me afterwards that I was the only one that had come to see her during that first tour and that she hadn't been laid in a year and half. We stay in contact but I haven't been able to see her in about 2 years because of personal reasons on her end. She is not a regular provider.
Janine Lindenmulder. Some say she is too mechanical but I didn't experience that. I had an awesome time with her twice. The second time, she almost slipped it in bare. I can't really get over all the tattoos but she still has the hottest body. It is incredible.
Jill Kelly. No BBFS but an awesome time nonetheless. She is retired now for the past few years.
Raquel Devine. Probably the most fun pornstar I have been with. She stays in shape. Never had kids. Her body is incredible. BBFS is on the table but you need to establish a good rapport with her first. Then you will be directed to a place to get tested. She has too be able to login and see the results.
As for agencies, I have used a few. I see some discussion about "Chloe". I had never had an issue with that agency, just maybe a couple of the girls. The prices are a bit too high, so I haven't used the as much but I did have great experiences with Puma Swede (allowed video), Bridgette B, Alexis Ford, and some others. There was one girl who was forgettable. I honestly can't even remember her name. I saw her during a late morning appointment. She basically fell asleep. I know these girls are night owls, but then don't make morning appointments.
I may remember more shit later but its late.
I know I'm a newbie here and I don't have much street cred, but if anyone has info on Erica James here in NYC and wants to share, that would be great! That is who I was originally looking for a review.Maybe different people are talking about different Ingrid's? I've been told that Ingrid Johnson: http://www.ingrid4you.com/ does BBFS. Maybe it's a different Ingrid? Or maybe it's a YMMV? Or maybe she used to, had a scare, and decided not to any more? I don't know. Never met her since her price is too high, IMO.
"Chloe": - no you'll never have a problem with "Chloe" as long as you pay his price and never complain and give all his girls glowing reviews, especially Bridgette B. The first time one of his girls doesn't show up and you complain, or you complain about a price, or give a poor review that he doesn't like, or do something else other than agree to everything he asks for, you'll have nothing but problems.
Ashley Taylor: one of the reasons I never repeated with her was her total lack of enthusiasm. Sure, she just lays there and takes it bare, but there's no emotion. I had the feeling after I left that I would have had more enthusiasm from a rubber doll. . I still recommend her to guys who like BBFS because she takes it without complaint and some actually enjoy women who behave like she does. I prefer more. As for keeping the room dark: she didn't when I saw her but that was 10 years ago. Maybe she keeps it dark now so she looks better. That reminds me of the time I went to a hotel many, many years ago to meet a woman and I walked in and the room was pitch dark. I couldn't see a thing. I asked her to turn on the lights so I could see to take out my money for her and. As soon as the lights came on I saw this 60-year-old, well, hag, is the only word I can think of to describe her. I ran. .
Raquel: She is one of many, many porn stars that will do BBFS if you are tested. The testing site is TTS and the fact that they can log in and look at your results is one of the reasons why the porn industry uses them. Because each star can look up their co-star's records and see that they are clean.
Jill Kelly: I'm told she still provides but only if she knows you as a former client and you are in LA.
Erica James: I had asked about her on TER and was told she did not provide BBFS. But, again, it could be a YMMV situation. However, when others like Gina are offering it for less, I'd rather go to someone I know I can do BBFS with than take a chance on an unknown that costs more. Really, why pay $600 when I can pay $400? The only reason I would consider more than $400 is if it's a porn star.
Tex Longhorn
12-13-18, 23:29
I'd like to add that I've had a number of experiences with BBFS in years past with different people. It was definitely a YMMV situation. I know that they've been discussed before and they were very clear that they do not offer bb. I can't say their names cause they do not openly offer it and it was definitely not planned, so it'd pretty much wreck my personal situation.
But, I thought it was worth noting that it happens when you develop a rapport with someone for what it's worth. But, with a lot of these women you'll be let down if you're walking in expecting it. Even women that I've had in the past may not necessarily offer it again in the future.Developing a good rapport is essential. It can't be one way. Being sensual and easing into the situation goes a long way, which is why I usually book multiple hours. Performing good oral on them makes them very suggestible. I feel that with some, and possibly many of the girls, they are looking for a boyfriend experience just as much as we may be looking for a girlfriend experience.
And to your point, keep your expectations low and you may be pleasantly surprised. To me the fun part is the challenge, to have them eating out of your hands.
Tex Longhorn
12-14-18, 00:00
Maybe different people are talking about different Ingrid's? I've been told that Ingrid Johnson: http://www.ingrid4you.com/ does BBFS. Maybe it's a different Ingrid? Or maybe it's a YMMV? Or maybe she used to, had a scare, and decided not to any more? I don't know. Never met her since her price is too high, IMO.
"Chloe": - no you'll never have a problem with "Chloe" as long as you pay his price and never complain and give all his girls glowing reviews, especially Bridgette B. The first time one of his girls doesn't show up and you complain, or you complain about a price, or give a poor review that he doesn't like, or do something else other than agree to everything he asks for, you'll have nothing but problems.
Ashley Taylor: one of the reasons I never repeated with her was her total lack of enthusiasm. Sure, she just lays there and takes it bare, but there's no emotion. I had the feeling after I left that I would have had more enthusiasm from a rubber doll. . I still recommend her to guys who like BBFS because she takes it without complaint and some actually enjoy women who behave like she does. I prefer more. As for keeping the room dark: she didn't when I saw her but that was 10 years ago. Maybe she keeps it dark now so she looks better. That reminds me of the time I went to a hotel many, many years ago to meet a woman and I walked in and the room was pitch dark. I couldn't see a thing. I asked her to turn on the lights so I could see to take out my money for her and. As soon as the lights came on I saw this 60-year-old, well, hag, is the only word I can think of to describe her. I ran. .
Raquel: She is one of many, many porn stars that will do BBFS if you are tested. The testing site is TTS and the fact that they can log in and look at your results is one of the reasons why the porn industry uses them. Because each star can look up their co-star's records and see that they are clean.
Jill Kelly: I'm told she still provides but only if she knows you as a former client and you are in LA.
Erica James: I had asked about her on TER and was told she did not provide BBFS. But, again, it could be a YMMV situation. However, when others like Gina are offering it for less, I'd rather go to someone I know I can do BBFS with than take a chance on an unknown that costs more. Really, why pay $600 when I can pay $400? The only reason I would consider more than $400 is if it's a porn star.I was referring to Ingrid Johnson. I had booked a 2 hr appointment with her. When I arrived for the appointment, she told me she could only do one hour. I went anyway. At the time, she was also living in posh pad. I hate having to go to doorman buildings. Its very uneasy having to wait in a lobby with all the porters and staff looking at you. Anyway, I go upstairs and she was a lot older than her photos, but still a great body. Porn playing on the big screen and she got down and dirty right away. BBJ but covered full service both vag and anal. Blew in her mouth. I asked about BBFS to which she said, "NO".
Ashley Taylor: When I used to see her, she always had the lights on. I hadn't seen her in about 3 years until a couple of weeks ago. This is the first time she kept the room dark. She is a cool girl and we reminisce about Sound Factory all the time. I would see her again. This time she told me that her assistant is very reference friendly and she turned me onto Touring Girls dot com. She informed that the pics of the girls on there are pretty legit. I haven't found any reviews, yet.
Raquel is a total sweetheart and is pretty smart. I think she looks better now than when she first started doing movies. She is totally classy outside the room but once we get back up to the room, she gets totally into it. Her dirty talk alone will make you want to blow your load. I have seen her several times for multiple hours each time. She is very engaging.
Jill Kelly I first saw in 2013 for my birthday. She was totally cool and gave me her private number when we were done. Janine was also staying in the same hotel. If I had known that ahead of time, it would have been the ultimate fantasy come to life for that birthday. Anyway, I texted back and forth on her private number and met her again in Vegas a few months later. Another great session. She has since retired because she got married. The private number is disconnected.
Erica James: I wasn't specifically asking if BBFS was on the table but just a general review of her personality, typical session, etc.
Chloe: My first experience was to meet Puma Swede. I had made an 11 am appointment. They mixed up and thought I meant 11 pm. I showed up but they were very accommodating. They set me up for 1 pm, so I ducked into a bar and grabbed lunch. I had tried to see Lezley through her (I had met Lezley one time before by contacting her direct), but at the time of the appointment, she couldn't be reached. Then found out she had to go to the ER. I really wouldn't have to write a bad review about Bridgette B. I had a good time with her. I saw Alexis Ford also. She was cool, but I had to wait in the lobby of the building. It was very awkward because the doorman had the wrong number and I was simultaneously trying to text her. The last time I used Chloe, she had recommended some up and coming Danish model. I forgot her name, it was that bad. She basically fell asleep while I was on top of her. I didn't immediately complain to Chloe but I did when I was contacted at a later time to set something with another up and comer. I was hoping for some sort of discounted rate but the conversation just ended. I haven't used her services since.
Tex Longhorn
12-14-18, 00:08
I recently met with Sultrie Sam here in Westchester. I think the photo she posts is fake. It only shows a torso and in real life her chest isn't that big. She definitely has an athletic body. We started getting undressed and I went in to kiss her and she told me that she doesn't do that. I thought the session was going to totally suck, but then she did a pretty enthusiastic BBJ. I reciprocated with some good oral on her but then as I was moving up her body, she said my cock was to close to her (eventhough I was like nowhere near her). So I covered up and we fucked in different positions, then I pulled off the rubber and started jacking myself. I told her I was about to cum in the hopes that she would finish me off, but she just said, "alright". And I was like, what the hell. I left. She was nice but most likely would not repeat eventhough she gave a direct number to call. As always, YMMV. I guess we just didn't connect.
Kinosellis
12-14-18, 02:09
I had heard she offered BBFS in the past but I wanted to see if anyone else had experienced that too? Thanks.
She used to be a regular at gc.
How is this post relevant in BBFS section? Was BBFS promised and not delivered?
Agreed, how is this post relevent in the BBFS review thread? I see no review, no provider named, no links, no discussion of sex. Nothing at all to qualify it to being in this thread.
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UncleThrax
12-14-18, 11:33
I've tried before with her and it was a no go. Still great dfk, BBBJ, and fuck (tho covered).I appreciate the info. I'm sure she's great but I simply will not spend $450 to put on a hat.
In retrospect since I ended up losing an hour anyway I probably should have given her a try. She was really nice, and I'm sure I probably would have had a good time with her.
But at that point my mind was just set on "I'm not paying for anything less than CIP and I asked your agent if there were any rules or anything off limits and your agent never said anything was off limits so I want my money back. " I should have cooled my jets a bit and thought that out a little bit better.
But at the very least I got a reference out of her.
Not trying to be a dick but what's up with the reviews with girls that don't do BBFS. This is the forum for fucking girls with no condom on your bbj and cfs reviews can go on the escort forum.
Had a session with Queeny earlier today (http://queenyporn.vividproviders.com) and I'm still recovering. She's a dynamo. DFK, DATY, BBBJ, BBFSCIP, multiple positions. Had a blast with her. Highly recommended for 4 Franklins.
Had a session with Queeny earlier today (http://queenyporn.vividproviders.com) and I'm still recovering. She's a dynamo. DFK, DATY, BBBJ, BBFSCIP, multiple positions. Had a blast with her. Highly recommended for 4 Franklins.Correct me if I'm wrong but there was already discussion here about her and it was mentioned she does not require any paperwork for BBFS. Is that correct? Also would you know if all activities are allowed during hh session?
Had a session with Queeny earlier today (http://queenyporn.vividproviders.com) and I'm still recovering. She's a dynamo. DFK, DATY, BBBJ, BBFSCIP, multiple positions. Had a blast with her. Highly recommended for 4 Franklins.She is great. Try for the ass? Claims it is off limits except for the hubby.
Danginfantry
12-15-18, 00:18
I was referring to Ingrid Johnson. I had booked a 2 hr appointment with her. When I arrived for the appointment, she told me she could only do one hour. I went anyway. At the time, she was also living in posh pad. I hate having to go to doorman buildings. Its very uneasy having to wait in a lobby with all the porters and staff looking at you. Anyway, I go upstairs and she was a lot older than her photos, but still a great body. Porn playing on the big screen and she got down and dirty right away. BBJ but covered full service both vag and anal. Blew in her mouth. I asked about BBFS to which she said, "NO".
Ashley Taylor: When I used to see her, she always had the lights on. I hadn't seen her in about 3 years until a couple of weeks ago. This is the first time she kept the room dark. She is a cool girl and we reminisce about Sound Factory all the time. I would see her again. This time she told me that her assistant is very reference friendly and she turned me onto Touring Girls dot com. She informed that the pics of the girls on there are pretty legit. I haven't found any reviews, yet.
Raquel is a total sweetheart and is pretty smart. I think she looks better now than when she first started doing movies. She is totally classy outside the room but once we get back up to the room, she gets totally into it. Her dirty talk alone will make you want to blow your load. I have seen her several times for multiple hours each time. She is very engaging.
Jill Kelly I first saw in 2013 for my birthday. She was totally cool and gave me her private number when we were done. Janine was also staying in the same hotel. If I had known that ahead of time, it would have been the ultimate fantasy come to life for that birthday. Anyway, I texted back and forth on her private number and met her again in Vegas a few months later. Another great session. She has since retired because she got married. The private number is disconnected.
Erica James: I wasn't specifically asking if BBFS was on the table but just a general review of her personality, typical session, etc.
Chloe: My first experience was to meet Puma Swede. I had made an 11 am appointment. They mixed up and thought I meant 11 pm. I showed up but they were very accommodating. They set me up for 1 pm, so I ducked into a bar and grabbed lunch. I had tried to see Lezley through her (I had met Lezley one time before by contacting her direct), but at the time of the appointment, she couldn't be reached. Then found out she had to go to the ER. I really wouldn't have to write a bad review about Bridgette B. I had a good time with her. I saw Alexis Ford also. She was cool, but I had to wait in the lobby of the building. It was very awkward because the doorman had the wrong number and I was simultaneously trying to text her. The last time I used Chloe, she had recommended some up and coming Danish model. I forgot her name, it was that bad. She basically fell asleep while I was on top of her. I didn't immediately complain to Chloe but I did when I was contacted at a later time to set something with another up and comer. I was hoping for some sort of discounted rate but the conversation just ended. I haven't used her services since.I agree with Ashley keeping the lights low. When I saw her in Manhattan, I caught a glimpse of her when I was in the bathroom and she does still look good but definately has a lot of work done to her face. When she was laughing, it seemed like her face wouldn't smile naturally. But she's still hot none the less. She told me she recently had some butt injections done too.
Has anyone ever notice that Ashley also wears a lot of hair extensions or weaves? While she was performing oral, I placed my hand on her head and I felt all the tracks on her head. I was kind of surprised she was wearing them because her hair is already thin. I wonder what she would look like without them in.
She does have a lack luster performance and just lays there waiting for a creampie.
Correct me if I'm wrong but there was already discussion here about her and it was mentioned she does not require any paperwork for BBFS. Is that correct? Also would you know if all activities are allowed during hh session?Fuck she's dumb totally lost my business last time she was in Long island told me I needed paper work to do BBFS had I known she doesn t ask to see it would have seen her someone also posted a review back when she was in Long Island and said he brought his papers but she didn't even look at them or ask for them.
Fuck she's dumb totally lost my business last time she was in Long island told me I needed paper work to do BBFS had I known she doesn t ask to see it would have seen her someone also posted a review back when she was in Long Island and said he brought his papers but she didn't even look at them or ask for them.So it's good we clarified this point here. On one hand I understand how shw does things (and respect that) but on the other it's just a hassle for me to generate paperwork just to see her and so there are more convenient options out there.
When I saw Ingrid it was definitely BBFS, but she asked me not to cum inside. Told me she preferred to swallow it instead. Her body is still really good, but her pics are touched up and she is older in person. I probably wouldn't see her again, but the experience was fine for me.
I had a buddy who also saw her and he had a pretty lackluster experience. Told me they just didn't click. He did not get BBFS, and right when he was leaving she asked him if he was going to leave a review about their session. He said that he wouldn't, but I guess she was worried bc 20 minutes after he left, she called him and offered to return some of his money. Probably why she had all 9's and 10's on Ter.
It's always YMMV with any girl.
If Ashley Taylor was one of those ladies that advertised Greek like crazy then I would theorize she was a post op since they would do something like that but I don't know. . I know guys get sensitive when certain things are said about their ATF but its just so unusual to me that she is that open with BBFS, especially as an alleged famous model and for that price. Yes I know not all models are super famous but the BBFS given up to us so easily and for a fair price to anyone?
I had heard she offered BBFS in the past but I wanted to see if anyone else had experienced that too? Thanks.
She used to be a regular at gc.I'd also appreciate some intel on this as she's smoking hot. Have seen her a few times, but she always had covers ready and made it quite evident that BBFS was a no go, but if it's a YMMV situation I'd probably see her again, even regularly if it were offered.
Hines Karlton
12-15-18, 19:25
Convinced there isn't pornstar mr French hasn't fucked.
I'd really like to know if you are loaded like that. But that's private.
Because at the rates these pornstars are asking.
For 1 nut 1 hour.
You'd have to be Wall Street huncho.
Raquel Devine.
This guy has had them all.
You going to have good stories to tell your son and grandson.
UncleThrax
12-15-18, 19:48
If Ashley Taylor was one of those ladies that advertised Greek like crazy then I would theorize she was a post op since they would do something like that but I don't know. . I know guys get sensitive when certain things are said about their ATF but its just so unusual to me that she is that open with BBFS, especially as an alleged famous model and for that price. Yes I know not all models are super famous but the BBFS given up to us so easily and for a fair price to anyone?She does model and has been on several magazines. Once she's comfortable enough with you, she'll share her modeling name and you can look up her Twitter, Facebook, etc.
Admittedly, when you look at her pictures from her younger years, it seems she hasn't aged too well. Also, she's dealing with a lot of stressful personal issues which she's mentioned with her more regular clients, so that's got to be taking a toll on her as well.
If Ashley Taylor was one of those ladies that advertised Greek like crazy then I would theorize she was a post op since they would do something like that but I don't know. . I know guys get sensitive when certain things are said about their ATF but its just so unusual to me that she is that open with BBFS, especially as an alleged famous model and for that price. Yes I know not all models are super famous but the BBFS given up to us so easily and for a fair price to anyone?I had had amazing experiences with her over tje year. So far 2018 was very difficult one her. You can put your best face forward but in some situation it is hard to smile. Don't judge her.
She does model and has been on several magazines. Once she's comfortable enough with you, she'll share her modeling name and you can look up her Twitter, Facebook, etc.
Admittedly, when you look at her pictures from her younger years, it seems she hasn't aged too well. Also, she's dealing with a lot of stressful personal issues which she's mentioned with her more regular clients, so that's got to be taking a toll on her as well.Her modeling name and twitter and Facebook isn't hard at all to find.
Correct me if I'm wrong but there was already discussion here about her and it was mentioned she does not require any paperwork for BBFS. Is that correct? Also would you know if all activities are allowed during hh session?She didn't ask me for any paperwork. She has hers available if you want to see it.
I don't know what she allows during a hh session since I went for a full hour.
She is great. Try for the ass? Claims it is off limits except for the hubby.I'm not into anal so I didn't even try.
Fuck she's dumb totally lost my business last time she was in Long island told me I needed paper work to do BBFS had I known she doesn t ask to see it would have seen her someone also posted a review back when she was in Long Island and said he brought his papers but she didn't even look at them or ask for them.As with many women who offer BBFS, it's a YYMV thing. She needs to feel safe doing it. If you show up drunk or high, or have track marks, or she thinks you might have something, or there's something else suspicious about you, or she just plain doesn't like you, she may not be willing to do BBFS. I've seen that happen before. Women that I've gotten BBFS from without any question have refused it from others, and vice versa. It's all about her assessment of you, your attitude, your looks, and a gut feeling she has. Look at other messages in this thread of people who say they got BBFS from Gaga but others saying they didn't. It's the same thing. It's always a YMMV situation and with some it varies more than with others.
That's yet another reason I'm hesitant to mention porn stars who I've had BBFS with without their permission. They may have done it with me because of how we met, recommendations from mutual friends, or the fact that she liked me but she wouldn't necessarily do it with everyone (or anyone else) who books a session.
If Ashley Taylor was one of those ladies that advertised Greek like crazy then I would theorize she was a post op since they would do something like that but I don't know. . I know guys get sensitive when certain things are said about their ATF but its just so unusual to me that she is that open with BBFS, especially as an alleged famous model and for that price. Yes I know not all models are super famous but the BBFS given up to us so easily and for a fair price to anyone?She's not that open about it. In fact, I've heard that if you ask her booker about it, she'll hang up on you. But, Ashley is well-known on the boards for allowing it so I don't see discussing it to be a problem.
When I saw Ingrid it was definitely BBFS, but she asked me not to cum inside. Told me she preferred to swallow it instead. Her body is still really good, but her pics are touched up and she is older in person. I probably wouldn't see her again, but the experience was fine for me.
I had a buddy who also saw her and he had a pretty lackluster experience. Told me they just didn't click. He did not get BBFS, and right when he was leaving she asked him if he was going to leave a review about their session. He said that he wouldn't, but I guess she was worried bc 20 minutes after he left, she called him and offered to return some of his money. Probably why she had all 9's and 10's on Ter.
It's always YMMV with any girl.Anyone have a link to her?
I had had amazing experiences with her over tje year. So far 2018 was very difficult one her. You can put your best face forward but in some situation it is hard to smile. Don't judge her.This comment you made doesn't really make sense. "Best face forward" "don't' judge her. Hard to smile"? What are you talking about?
UncleThrax
12-16-18, 04:29
Her modeling name and twitter and Facebook isn't hard at all to find.It's not at all, but I'm sure she would prefer if her clients didn't disclose anything themselves. On her escorting website, she seems to be a bit secretive about it, I'd imagine for obvious reasons.
You'd think she would have chosen a harder to find pseudonym, but hey, it's her life.
HardOne666
12-16-18, 14:14
I'll be in town for the next week and I was wondering if someone could send me some suggestions to visit in Manhattan. Really appreciate the help.
This comment you made doesn't really make sense. "Best face forward" "don't' judge her. Hard to smile"? What are you talking about?She had a tough year. Some problems may affect even the most optimistic person.
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Wow, you almost lasted two months this time.
A2
"Chloe" and Perfection Models already has a bad reputation for anyone who is "in the know" and for those who hung out on the porn discussion board on TER. "She" (who is really a "he") won't lose their talent though as the mainstay is his girlfriend and her friends. But, they should be avoided.
As I've said: try TheLuxuryCompanion.com.What's the usual damage at tlc?
Friday evening I called an older Japanese mix provider who advertises as a 24 hour "independent" provider, but I'll get into this later on and break down my first and second experience with her. This is actually the second time I have seen her, but never left a review because there wasn't a BBFS forum in NYC section. I called and in simplified English said, "you working today" to which she replies yes. I told her I be around her spot around 11 PM but actually got to her spot around midnight. She is located in Flushing Queens, around northern blvd. I put this here because Queens doesn't have a BBFS section.
I arrived at her spot and give her the half hour donation. We both strip off our clothes and she washes my junk with a spray bottle filled with alcohol. I lay down on the bed, yes, bed and she proceeds to give me a BBBJ. The BJ started out lackluster until I told her to put it in her mouth and suck without using her hands. She followed my instructions, which resulted in a much better BBBJ. She was bopping her head up and down fast while trying to suck the nut out of my dick.
It actually felt so good that I had to stop her midway because.
1). I didn't want to nut in her mouth quick and the sessions ends.
2). The BBBJ felt really good that my penis was getting too sensitive with her sucking.
As I stopped the blowjob, I DATY to get her warm up for the penetration, which I think worked because she wanted me to fuck her now. We started in Mish and I was giving her slow strokes for a few minutes until she grabbed my hips and motion for me to fuck her hard. She was moaning and telling me to cum baby. In my head, I'm like, nah baby, not yet. I tell her to turn around for doggy and started pounding her hard and fast. She starts to say lets cum at the same time, but I'm in this position for a good minute until I finally shoot my load inside. She cleans me up and off I go.
The Break Down.
Okay, looks and body wise I give her a 6/10. The service was maybe a 7/10. Her age probably 40-50 years old. She will text you her actual address and rates for hour (150) and half-hour (100). She will provide everything except anal. Now I know some guys go to 98 Mott for the cheap service, but to me I like her location because its a private apartment with an actually bed in her room. She is the only girl there and is "independent", but as she put it to me she has a "boss" that is in the other room. I don't know if its her pimp or husband, as I notice while doing the deed she was wearing a wedding ring on her finger. I would like to think its the latter. I fantasize during the session that it was her husband in the other room as I was pounding her. I didn't feel uncomfortable or in danger knowing there was a dude in the other room. I don't think they would want any ruckus considering they live next to neighbors.
The first time I saw her, I went for the hour date which she allows 2 x MSOG, but the only con was in the hour date she wanted me to wear a condom for the first nut. I told her no, but she insisted. My guess is she doesn't want her "boss" to know she does BBFS. Anyway, mid act the condom broke and I just proceeded to fuck her bare. At the end of the hour she gave me a good massage which felt great. The massage left my legs wobble after I left there the first time I saw her.
This second date with her was for half-hour, 1 x shot. The difference here is when I call her to tell I have arrived she was trying to ask me in broken English if I was Black, which I told her no. Some tips, which I will apply next time I see her, is to be forward with what you want and how you like it. You must take command of the session. One other thing she did say was I have a big dick as I undress, but I'm average size at best. She must of meant the girth of my penis. Which is probably why she asked if I was black when I got the apartment number, I don't know. That's another tip for guys who are packing, warm her up by foreplay so she doesn't feel discomfort with your big member. If you want some kind of privacy in a chill comfortable clean environment setting you might enjoy her. One other thing, it is best to call then to text. With text I waited a long time for a response. Just call and use simplified English with her and she will text you her info.
Anyone have a link to her?http://ingrid4you.com
What's the usual damage at tlc?There is no "usual damage" at TLC. Each porn star has different rates. You can expect to pay, on the average, somewhere between $1200-1800 per hour. Some are less. Some are more. Sometimes the rates are higher if the girl is in your city on tour, sometimes not. Sometimes the rates are higher or lower depending on whether it's incall or outcall, sometimes the rates are the same regardless. It really depends on a lot of different factors that are too numerous to list. The best thing to do is to ask Adonia.
Hines Karlton
12-17-18, 03:06
There is no "usual damage" at TLC. Each porn star has different rates. You can expect to pay, on the average, somewhere between $1200-1800 per hour. Some are less. Some are more. Lmfao. Hahahaha.
UncleThrax
12-17-18, 06:42
Does anyone know if Hitomi Tanaka has ever provided escorting services for her fans?
I'm inclined to believe that she'd probably be willing to do BBFS CIP if she did, given all her movies.
I spoke to her about 6 months ago when I was down near Philly. She was definitely open to BBFS, CIP, greek, but wanted 1 k for everything including video. Didn't end up seeing her.After further communication she wanted 800 for BBFS with multiple cip. So I not going to see her. Apparently 400 is a limited PSE menu and 800 if the full.
I had heard she offered BBFS in the past but I wanted to see if anyone else had experienced that too? Thanks.
She used to be a regular at gc.I texted her and she told me she doesn't offer it. Now idk if that's a YMMV situation but take it as you will.
Trickster666
12-17-18, 22:10
Each porn star has different rates. You can expect to pay, on the average, somewhere between $1200-1800 per hour.$1800 for a session with a 50 year old ex-porn star? Sounds reasonable. That's what I call money well spent.
BBPornoGeek
12-17-18, 23:11
I had heard she offered BBFS in the past but I wanted to see if anyone else had experienced that too? Thanks.
She used to be a regular at gc.YMMV with her. Buddy of mine did but I wasn't getting it until he told her I'm good for it. Feels way better going rawdawg with her than with the rubber on.
Danginfantry
12-17-18, 23:48
Since the NJ thread is dead I figured I'd post this here.
I feeling horny and I was on Eros and I stumbled onto this Latina girl. I asked for BBFS and she was hesitant at first but said if I did the 400/ hr, it would be ok. I met her at a location in Avenel, NJ and she does look like her pictures; however, she's a little ratchet for me. She gave a nice BBBJ and then I proceeded to enter her bare. Pussy was tight and wet. She was ridding me and I was about to cum and asked if I could creampie her. She said no and that next time I could. I held out and fucked her doggy and when I was about to cum, I pulled out and sprayed her pussy all over with my cum. She proceeded to push back and rubbed her pussy on my cock and I entered her again. It was some pornstar shit! Cum was all over her pussy and some even went inside of her.
She may not be for everyone because she's rather ratchet but she's def worth a try. YMMV with BBFS.
https://www.eros.com/new_jersey/files/558221.htm?cat=26
YMMV with her. Buddy of mine did but I wasn't getting it until he told her I'm good for it. Feels way better going rawdawg with her than with the rubber on.I'm going to have to go see her again then, because she's literally a younger, hotter, more involved version of Ashley Taylor. And she's actually in NYC not the meadowlands. Hell, I'd probably see Talia 2-3 x a week if BBFS were on the table. She's a great fuck even without it.
Kinosellis
12-18-18, 11:01
Since the NJ thread is dead I figured I'd post this here.
I feeling horny and I was on Eros and I stumbled onto this Latina girl. I asked for BBFS and she was hesitant at first but said if I did the 400/ hr, it would be ok. I met her at a location in Avenel, NJ and she does look like her pictures; however, she's a little ratchet for me. She gave a nice BBBJ and then I proceeded to enter her bare. Pussy was tight and wet. She was ridding me and I was about to cum and asked if I could creampie her. She said no and that next time I could. I held out and fucked her doggy and when I was about to cum, I pulled out and sprayed her pussy all over with my cum. She proceeded to push back and rubbed her pussy on my cock and I entered her again. It was some pornstar shit! Cum was all over her pussy and some even went inside of her.
She may not be for everyone because she's rather ratchet but she's def worth a try. YMMV with BBFS.
https://www.eros.com/new_jersey/files/558221.htm?cat=26Thanks for the info! She looks like a stripper more than ratchet. But, usually pics are better than in real life. But, I know what you mean with all the tattoos. I say stripper cause I've seen the booty injections and fake boob look a lot in southern florida. She's got a little belly stretch from having a baby left over.
If we're spreading the radius out then I'd suggest for DaDaDa spa in Sewell, nj. Tina and Mimi are known for it. But, I know a number of their staff is bb friendly. But, they're older like 40's to 50's.
I'll be honest I get paranoid about BBFS, so often it's more fantasy and curiosity than actively seeking it.
About 2 weeks ago when I had a session with Gina Rollins, I asked why Amanda was taken off of her friends list on her site. She told me the reason is because she has a boyfriend. I asked being that she now has a boyfriend if she still is still BBFS. Gina told me to be skeptical about it.
My question is this. Does anyone know if or can confirm of Amanda is still BBFS? BBFSCIP? I'm planning a possible session with her next week but don't want to blow away roses if she isn't at least BBFS!
Thank you in advance!
Since the NJ thread is dead I figured I'd post this here.
I feeling horny and I was on Eros and I stumbled onto this Latina girl. I asked for BBFS and she was hesitant at first but said if I did the 400/ hr, it would be ok. I met her at a location in Avenel, NJ and she does look like her pictures; however, she's a little ratchet for me. She gave a nice BBBJ and then I proceeded to enter her bare. Pussy was tight and wet. She was ridding me and I was about to cum and asked if I could creampie her. She said no and that next time I could. I held out and fucked her doggy and when I was about to cum, I pulled out and sprayed her pussy all over with my cum. She proceeded to push back and rubbed her pussy on my cock and I entered her again. It was some pornstar shit! Cum was all over her pussy and some even went inside of her.
She may not be for everyone because she's rather ratchet but she's def worth a try. YMMV with BBFS.
https://www.eros.com/new_jersey/files/558221.htm?cat=26This chick has been around a long time. Heard rumors she allowed BBFS on a popular NJ forum that she used to post ads on. Never had the chance to meet her.
Thanks for the info.
Thanks for the info! She looks like a stripper more than ratchet. But, usually pics are better than in real life. But, I know what you mean with all the tattoos. I say stripper cause I've seen the booty injections and fake boob look a lot in southern florida. She's got a little belly stretch from having a baby left over.
If we're spreading the radius out then I'd suggest for DaDaDa spa in Sewell, nj. Tina and Mimi are known for it. But, I know a number of their staff is bb friendly. But, they're older like 40's to 50's.
I'll be honest I get paranoid about BBFS, so often it's more fantasy and curiosity than actively seeking it.I visit dddd weekly. Had Tina many times. I can't go back to covered service. I go limp.
After further communication she wanted 800 for BBFS with multiple cip. So I not going to see her. Apparently 400 is a limited PSE menu and 800 if the full.I wrote her off as a complete waste of time a while ago. All I got in response to my trying to book a date when I was down in Philly was offers of sale of pics and videos and no actual info about booking a date, or availability or anything like that. From what I've heard so far, she'll probably take the 800 and then say "that doesn't cover everything" and then start nickel-and-diming you for more.
$1800 for a session with a 50 year old ex-porn star? Sounds reasonable. That's what I call money well spent.Some of the 20-year-olds are charging that too. It's all about what they think they are worth. Just like when they go in to sign a contract for a movie they ask for high rates for scenes too.
Unless we're talking about someone specific, this is all just guesses, generalities and assumptions. Which may or may not be true.
I'm going to have to go see her again then, because she's literally a younger, hotter, more involved version of Ashley Taylor. And she's actually in NYC not the meadowlands. Hell, I'd probably see Talia 2-3 x a week if BBFS were on the table. She's a great fuck even without it.Is there a link to an ad or website for Talia?
UncleThrax
12-18-18, 22:16
Some of the 20-year-olds are charging that too. It's all about what they think they are worth. Just like when they go in to sign a contract for a movie they ask for high rates for scenes too.
Unless we're talking about someone specific, this is all just guesses, generalities and assumptions. Which may or may not be true.The 20 something year olds charge significantly more than that. Unless they like you and are willing to negotiate down. I've had one such experience with one whose identity I won't give away because she isn't even on regular birth control because she doesn't normally do BBFS and hates the "ride" of dealing with the pill.
I managed to get a multi hour discount rate that you wouldn't even get with most 50 year olds.
As you said, it really is subjective.
Is there a link to an ad or website for Talia?Here you go. https://www.foxylists.com/talia.
Very similar body type to Ashley Taylor. To be honest I'd actually say Talia is definitely hotter. She looks like she just fell off the cover of penthouse or playboy. Some people complain about her face, but I think she's quite pretty. She does have some "sharp" features though and her nose isn't the best. Kind of like a Russian version of sarah jessica parker in that halloween movie where she plays a witch. And for all the people here saying AT is not involved Talia is the opposite. She gets really into it and is a hell of a lot of fun, can get loud, might meow or make some cat noises, is more on the submissive side, etc.
Here you go. https://www.foxylists.com/talia.
Very similar body type to Ashley Taylor. To be honest I'd actually say Talia is definitely hotter. She looks like she just fell off the cover of penthouse or playboy. Some people complain about her face, but I think she's quite pretty. She does have some "sharp" features though and her nose isn't the best. Kind of like a Russian version of sarah jessica parker in that halloween movie where she plays a witch. And for all the people here saying AT is not involved Talia is the opposite. She gets really into it and is a hell of a lot of fun, can get loud, might meow or make some cat noises, is more on the submissive side, etc.That's the former GC / diamonddesires number. I fucked her before. They were rumors at GC that she offered bareback. On my only meeting with her, I did not inquire.
Hi,
Seen a few ads for this girl and she looks super cute. Anyone know if she is BBFS friendly? She is up for Greek and CIM so curious.
Hines Karlton
12-19-18, 13:43
Some of the 20-year-olds are charging that too. It's all about what they think they are worth. Just like when they go in to sign a contract for a movie they ask for high rates for scenes too.
Unless we're talking about someone specific, this is all just guesses, generalities and assumptions. Which may or may not be true.Bruh.
Are you talking about Hollywood movie acting industry or porn.
Because the first one you actually have to have talent.
The latter anyone can do it.
The days of pornstars making millions off porn are over.
There will be no more Jenna Jameson's Lisa Ann's Ava Devine Sasha grey.
The porn industry is very low paying now.
They took a hit with the free porn and people not paying for porn anymore.
Chicks in average are getting paid 800-1200 per scene.
Some even less. There is no money in porn.
These Thots are charging dudes 1500-2000 to fuck them because they know dudes jerk off to their vids.
Fuxk out of here.
Philly sucks and the burbs are even worse. Nothing here at all so was just wondering if any BBFS ladies from NY or NJ would be willing to come down. Any recommendations would be much appreciated. Looking for a sure thing great time. I've asked a couple of the well known ladies from NY and none were willing to drive down. Would love to see Ashley Taylor but the closest she gets is the Meadowlands and it's still really far for me. Feel free to pm me with any utr info or girls.
That's the text messages I exchanged with her earlier today. From my understanding and past BBFS experiences, BBFS is in the yes column with the right price tag.
UncleThrax
12-19-18, 18:37
Bruh.
Are you talking about Hollywood movie acting industry or porn.
Because the first one you actually have to have talent.
The latter anyone can do it.
The days of pornstars making millions off porn are over.
There will be no more Jenna Jameson's Lisa Ann's Ava Devine Sasha grey.
The porn industry is very low paying now.
They took a hit with the free porn and people not paying for porn anymore.
Chicks in average are getting paid 800-1200 per scene.
Some even less. There is no money in porn.
These Thots are charging dudes 1500-2000 to fuck them because they know dudes jerk off to their vids.
Fuxk out of here.Talking about girls that have appeared in Brazzers etc.
Yes, there are definitely a lot fewer A-listers. But the ones that remain are still on TLC and Lourdes. And yes, eventually they'll get older and have to charge a lot less too.
I've had situations where a semi-older, but well known and still fairly attractive pornstar or two tried to over charge me, to which my response was similar to yours: F*ck out of here (though I said it in a nicer way).
You're right about the general trend, but I think it's going to take a while for the rest of the hobbying world to catch on and realize that they can get better deals.
Also, when you're looking for BBFSCIP and other extras, it significantly narrows your options. So you're kinda stuck with whoever you're stuck with, unless you want to endlessly fish through a bunch of "no I don't do that". So far, I feel like the ratio I tend to see is about 10 to 1 (for every 10 or so providers I ask, 1 of them agrees). And you also run the risk of being blacklisted if you run into a provider or agent who doesn't like the fact that you asked for it. So, sometimes it's best not to try your luck too much.
I've also seen that once you've seen a provider once, if they like you, they're more willing to give you a better rate sometimes significantly lower than what you've mentioned.
But I'm pretty new to this anyway. Been only doing this for about a year, and I've only seen 8 porn stars so far. Maybe with more experience I'll get better at negotiating?
Juliansntg69
12-19-18, 19:33
Hi,
Seen a few ads for this girl and she looks super cute. Anyone know if she is BBFS friendly? She is up for Greek and CIM so curious.There was a girl in NYC about 3-4 yrs ago with that name who had alot of positive reviews. Where did you find the ads?
Summerinthecity
12-19-18, 20:22
Anyone have a link to her?Is this Ingrid Johnson? Anyone dona do with her and gina?
Here you go. https://www.foxylists.com/talia.
Very similar body type to Ashley Taylor. To be honest I'd actually say Talia is definitely hotter. She looks like she just fell off the cover of penthouse or playboy. Some people complain about her face, but I think she's quite pretty. She does have some "sharp" features though and her nose isn't the best. Kind of like a Russian version of sarah jessica parker in that halloween movie where she plays a witch. And for all the people here saying AT is not involved Talia is the opposite. She gets really into it and is a hell of a lot of fun, can get loud, might meow or make some cat noises, is more on the submissive side, etc.I don't know anyone more submissive than Ashley Taylor. .
Does Talia do outcall or only incall? I'll be in Westchester soon and might want her to visit me.
Bruh.
Are you talking about Hollywood movie acting industry or porn.
Because the first one you actually have to have talent.
The latter anyone can do it.
The days of pornstars making millions off porn are over.
There will be no more Jenna Jameson's Lisa Ann's Ava Devine Sasha grey.
The porn industry is very low paying now.
They took a hit with the free porn and people not paying for porn anymore.
Chicks in average are getting paid 800-1200 per scene.
Some even less. There is no money in porn.
These Thots are charging dudes 1500-2000 to fuck them because they know dudes jerk off to their vids.
Fuxk out of here.I don't know where you get your info but, from what the girls are saying, things haven't changed on their side. There are plenty of girls still demanding, and getting, big bucks for scenes. While this is slightly old, from what I'm told, it's still accurate, with some girls that have been around in the industry for a few years getting more: https://www.dailydot.com/irl/porn-star-salaries-income/.
Jenna Jameson and the others you mention didn't get their money from doing scenes. They got their money from running their own businesses and producing porn as well. They also have pay web sites where they got roughly $40-$50 per month from millions of subscribers who wanted access to the content they put up exclusively on their site. Porn stars are still doing this. There's still plenty of money in porn. The porn industry is reportedly worth upwards of $90 billion.
Yes, there's a lot of free porn on the Internet. Most of it is clips. The majority of the rest are behind pay sites of one kind or another where you're paying a monthly fee to get access. The rest. The places that are showing whole scenes and even whole movies for free. Well, they won't be around for long. From what I hear, the industry is planning to take the tactic that the music industry did and start getting the sites that are illegally offering these movies shut down. I don't know for sure what will happen since I'm not a lawyer or involved at that end of the industry but, it wouldn't surprise me if the companies started taking action.
Talking about girls that have appeared in Brazzers etc.
Yes, there are definitely a lot fewer A-listers. But the ones that remain are still on TLC and Lourdes. And yes, eventually they'll get older and have to charge a lot less too.
I've had situations where a semi-older, but well known and still fairly attractive pornstar or two tried to over charge me, to which my response was similar to yours: F*ck out of here (though I said it in a nicer way).
You're right about the general trend, but I think it's going to take a while for the rest of the hobbying world to catch on and realize that they can get better deals.
Also, when you're looking for BBFSCIP and other extras, it significantly narrows your options. So you're kinda stuck with whoever you're stuck with, unless you want to endlessly fish through a bunch of "no I don't do that". So far, I feel like the ratio I tend to see is about 10 to 1 (for every 10 or so providers I ask, 1 of them agrees). And you also run the risk of being blacklisted if you run into a provider or agent who doesn't like the fact that you asked for it. So, sometimes it's best not to try your luck too much.
I've also seen that once you've seen a provider once, if they like you, they're more willing to give you a better rate sometimes significantly lower than what you've mentioned.
But I'm pretty new to this anyway. Been only doing this for about a year, and I've only seen 8 porn stars so far. Maybe with more experience I'll get better at negotiating?FWIW, it's very easy to get around blacklisting these days if (a) you don't use your real name and always use an alias and (b) don't use your real phone number.
There are apps like https://www.burnerapp.com/ that lets you create burner numbers on the fly, and get rid of them when you don't need them any more. So, if someone blacklists you, you just change the burner number you're using and move on to the next escort or agency.
There was a girl in NYC about 3-4 yrs ago with that name who had alot of positive reviews. Where did you find the ads?Switter. Same girl. I remember nearly seeing her a few years ago but something came up. Will take one for team when she is next in town and let you know.
I don't know anyone more submissive than Ashley Taylor. .
Does Talia do outcall or only incall? I'll be in Westchester soon and might want her to visit me.I think she is only incall, either in NYC or Secaucus most days.
But back to Ashley Taylor. How submissive exactly is she? Does she receive watersports? That was always what got me going back to Gina Rollins, although I wouldn't say it's submissiveness per-se, but her desire to leave me totally drained. BBFSCIP followed by a golden shower and then BBFSCIA is just about the best way to finish off a week, but I haven't found anyone but Gina who does that. (I guess Alexis Cain and Amanda Manhattan do as well, but neither are really my type).
Kinosellis
12-22-18, 14:47
White girl Emma Grace at lear talent is BBFS friendly. She's a spinner / small As. GFE overall. You'll like her.
I think she is only incall, either in NYC or Secaucus most days.
But back to Ashley Taylor. How submissive exactly is she? Does she receive watersports? That was always what got me going back to Gina Rollins, although I wouldn't say it's submissiveness per-se, but her desire to leave me totally drained. BBFSCIP followed by a golden shower and then BBFSCIA is just about the best way to finish off a week, but I haven't found anyone but Gina who does that. (I guess Alexis Cain and Amanda Manhattan do as well, but neither are really my type).Watersports and submissiveness are two different things. I know plenty of submissive women who do not do watersports.
I don't believe Ashley engages in watersports but it's not my thing so I didn't ask. But I don't recall anyone ever mentioning it. I'm not sure Alexis or Amanda do that either. It's kind of more of a niche than BBFS, I think.
UncleThrax
12-23-18, 20:04
White girl Emma Grace at lear talent is BBFS friendly. She's a spinner / small As. GFE overall. You'll like her.Site is password protected. What does she look like?
ZenMeister007
12-24-18, 00:51
Based on the fact that she asks guys to supply champagne or wine, I'm guessing she's probably an alcoholic. That's probably also why she seems flaky.BBFS ladies.
Veronica of desiresofnewyork. Not on schedule now but came two times visit from North Carolina this past year.
Tara of Dreamgirls who is either on vacation or moved on this past month not on schedule.
Talia. YMMV. Was during her GC days. As indy, I have not visited again.
Adrianna / Brianna. UTR or retired.
Dr Liza- Early 50's but she is good looking and toned body. Very long black hair. The security guard may ask you where you came from on the way out from elevator. Ignored her and walked out.
Autumn. Miss her badly.
Addie. Allows all now at Diamonds.
Is Ivanka going by another name?
Hines Karlton
12-24-18, 02:29
BBFS ladies
Dr Liza- Early 50's but she is good looking and toned body. Very long black hair. The security guard may ask you where you came from on the way out from elevator. Ignored her and walked ouT
Is Ivanka going by another name?Ivanka yes is going by another name.
As for your comment on dr Liza I guess we have different standard.
Hello all, unfortunately my first post doesn't add anyone new. But I have seen Gina Rollins a few times, once as a duo with Alexis. Both are as advertised, and Alexis really seems to get off when you CIP her. Tried to set up an appointment with Gina and her new friend Gabrielle today but sadly she is away for the holidays. I hope to be able to share more soon but wanted to break the ice. Happy hunting all.
Kinosellis
12-24-18, 12:20
BBFS ladies.
Veronica of desiresofnewyork. Not on schedule now but came two times visit from North Carolina this past year.
Tara of Dreamgirls who is either on vacation or moved on this past month not on schedule.
Talia. YMMV. Was during her GC days. As indy, I have not visited again.
Adrianna / Brianna. UTR or retired.
Dr Liza- Early 50's but she is good looking and toned body. Very long black hair. The security guard may ask you where you came from on the way out from elevator. Ignored her and walked out.
Autumn. Miss her badly.
Addie. Allows all now at Diamonds.
Is Ivanka going by another name?Tara is YMMV. She does not openly do it anymore. She had gotten a bf so she moved away from those services. At the very least don't walk in expecting it to be a guarantee.
BBFS ladies.
Addie. Allows all now at Diamonds.
Is Ivanka going by another name?Addie. Do you mean nydiamondgirls.com? If so, they've changed their name again. The link takes you to http://mvpescorts.com/ and Addie is no longer listed.
Ivanka. She's gone by a number of different names. And there are a number of girls now in NYC using the name Ivanka. I wonder why. Anyway, I'd heard that the one that did BBFS if you brought champagne had moved. Someone told me she's now in Vegas. Don't know if she's there permanently, on tour, or splits her time between there and NYC though.
NYExplorer
12-25-18, 02:20
Site is password protected. What does she look like?White, young, blond type. About 5' Tall. Still has that baby fat. GND look.
Martin0028
12-25-18, 23:38
BBFS ladies.
Talia. YMMV. Was during her GC days. As indy, I have not visited again
Dr Liza- Early 50's but she is good looking and toned body. Very long black hair. The security guard may ask you where you came from on the way out from elevator. Ignored her and walked out.
Is Ivanka going by another name?Talia- saw her after she went independent. Was very adamant that FS is always covered.
Dr. Liza sent me an email saying she has retired as she has a 9-5 now.
Ivanka moved away to the west coast last I heard.
Talia- saw her after she went independent. Was very adamant that FS is always covered.
Dr. Liza sent me an email saying she has retired as she has a 9-5 now.
Ivanka moved away to the west coast last I heard.Damn you for real. Good for Liza but damn that sucks she's out was a damn good lay.
Hines Karlton
12-26-18, 10:27
Talia- saw her after she went independent. Was very adamant that FS is always covered.
Dr. Liza sent me an email saying she has retired as she has a 9-5 now.
Ivanka moved away to the west coast last I heard.I find that hard to believe. Dr Liza when I saw her said she was making crazy money. All tax free or cash. Liquid.
She would see 4-5 dudes a day at 300-400 dollars a pop. Easily.
You won't get that in a 9-5 I'm sorry.
But wteva.
Usually those women don't completely retired. I have seen a couple that has officially retired. Just this past November, I saw Arabella Boxxer. She was shocked that I contacted her. She said she has retired. With a combination of stubbornness and charm, I met her. BBFS was not on the table. Now that I have Liza contact, thanks to nice gentleman, I will try my luck.
I find that hard to believe. Dr Liza when I saw her said she was making crazy money. All tax free or cash. Liquid.
She would see 4-5 dudes a day at 300-400 dollars a pop. Easily.
You won't get that in a 9-5 I'm sorry.
But wteva.Did her rate go up. When I saw her it was 220.
RmSlayer88
12-26-18, 14:39
BBFS ladies.
Veronica of desiresofnewyork. Not on schedule now but came two times visit from North Carolina this past year.
Tara of Dreamgirls who is either on vacation or moved on this past month not on schedule.
Talia. YMMV. Was during her GC days. As indy, I have not visited again.
Adrianna / Brianna. UTR or retired.
Dr Liza- Early 50's but she is good looking and toned body. Very long black hair. The security guard may ask you where you came from on the way out from elevator. Ignored her and walked out.
Autumn. Miss her badly.
Addie. Allows all now at Diamonds.
Is Ivanka going by another name?Addie from diamonddesiresexclusive? Thanks.
Hines Karlton
12-26-18, 15:23
Did her rate go up. When I saw her it was 220.220 was her rate. Which is kinda high for her age and how she looks.
But she would brag about how dudes would tip her without her asking and give her more like 300-400 cash.
Either way she will not make that doing a 9-5 job.
You talking about someone that can barely speak English and has no education.
Get real.
No disrespect to her.
220 x 5.
1100 a day clean. No tax. Straight cash.
I would like to see her career 9-5 that gives her that.
She isn't even a doctor she is a nurse in Russia.
Good look with having that translate in the us.
Hines Karlton
12-26-18, 15:26
Usually those women don't completely retired. I have seen a couple that has officially retired. Just this past November, I saw Arabella Boxxer. She was shocked that I contacted her. She said she has retired. With a combination of stubbornness and charm, I met her. BBFS was not on the table. Now that I have Liza contact, thanks to nice gentleman, I will try my luck.They always come back dude.
They always do.
Their heroin and coke money runs out. Back at it.
That secretary job that pays a 15 an hour doesn't cut it or work out. They back at it.
I run into retired strippers and retired prostitutes all the time. "I don't do that anymore I have a job now. Actual career".
Sure ya do.
You have no talents you have no education and you have nothing to offer.
LOL.
Invalid Login
12-26-18, 17:48
Was a bit hungover the other day and had a morning itch that needed scratching, but I was light in the wallet from all the Christmas gifts. I remembered this place and took the train down to Chinatown.
Walked in and a dude at the stand in front of the elevators was talking to a big group. I realized they were all waiting for the elevators so I decided to take the stairs. On my way up some super old granny with a cane was taking her sweet ass time to get up the stairs. By the time I got to lap her at another floor she started yelling at me in Chinese so I picked up the pace to get away from that old horse.
Got to the 6th floor and remembered to go down the hall to the suite on the left. Walked in to two ladies wanting my business (CiCi and Tina). I told them I was there to see Lily. Tina guided me to one of those little rooms and I could hear a monger banging out Lily while I waited. Tina came back to check on me and let me suck on her tits and play with her vag for a few to kill some time, and tried to get me to go with her instead. Negative. I told her I'd wait.
Lily got done and I was praying I wasn't going to be plowing into some other dude's load when it was my turn. Met Lily and def has to be late 50's or 60's. I had the bluest balls so IDGAF. She washed me at the sink and wiped me down from all the sweat I had from running up the stairs. Got some BBBJ and then she want to get a cover. I told her it wasn't needed and let her hop on. CG, Mish, doggie, and I blew all up in her guts. I could hear another monger in a different room slapping Cici's cheeks. Lily asked me how I'd heard about her and that when I come back I should only see her. Said no to the massage and was on my way hoping I don't test dirty at my next test.
Gave her. 9 since I never got a chance to break a. 5 bill I had on me. Not as seedy as I thought, but not sure I'll ever return. I felt it was a right of passage I had to bear in order to be a true NY monger.
Staying at the Manhattan Hotel BBFS was on the menu for $250. Service was decent but not a looker. Beats a visit to the Chinese granmas.
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/sexy-stefany-colombian-917-708-3402-13462498/
220 was her rate. Which is kinda high for her age and how she looks.
But she would brag about how dudes would tip her without her asking and give her more like 300-400 cash.
Either way she will not make that doing a 9-5 job.
You talking about someone that can barely speak English and has no education.
Get real.
No disrespect to her.
220 x 5.
1100 a day clean. No tax. Straight cash.
I would like to see her career 9-5 that gives her that.
She isn't even a doctor she is a nurse in Russia.
Good look with having that translate in the us.It was 220 just a couple of weeks ago. Personally, I think she looks great and has a very warm personality. I said it before, I will say it now. She is a gem. Definitely one of the best in NYC.
Staying at the Manhattan Hotel BBFS was on the menu for $250. Service was decent but not a looker. Beats a visit to the Chinese granmas.
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/sexy-stefany-colombian-917-708-3402-13462498/I'm going to fucking kiss you just my type and an affordable price going to go fuck her tomorrow or Friday.
MateoCast98
12-27-18, 03:06
Staying at the Manhattan Hotel BBFS was on the menu for $250. Service was decent but not a looker. Beats a visit to the Chinese granmas.
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/sexy-stefany-colombian-917-708-3402-13462498/Do you mean 250 $ total or a 250 tip.
UncleThrax
12-27-18, 08:22
Staying at the Manhattan Hotel BBFS was on the menu for $250. Service was decent but not a looker. Beats a visit to the Chinese granmas.
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/sexy-stefany-colombian-917-708-3402-13462498/This is great, thanks for the find. She do CIP and Greek / CIA too?
This is great, thanks for the find. She do CIP and Greek / CIA too?I didn't but I think CIP was on the menu greek was not. $250 total.
This is great, thanks for the find. She do CIP and Greek / CIA too?That's the only thing I want to know as well.
I didn't but I think CIP was on the menu greek was not. $250 total.Did you ask for BBFS beforehand or when you met her?
Member #6225
12-27-18, 15:48
Staying at the Manhattan Hotel BBFS was on the menu for $250. Service was decent but not a looker. Beats a visit to the Chinese granmas.
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/sexy-stefany-colombian-917-708-3402-13462498/Not a looker? Was she old or young? From the pics body wise looks good. Just called her she picked up right away and kinda of curious on checking but could you describe on what you meant not a looker? Were the pics not accurate??
Staying at the Manhattan Hotel BBFS was on the menu for $250. Service was decent but not a looker. Beats a visit to the Chinese granmas.
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/sexy-stefany-colombian-917-708-3402-13462498/When you google the phone number, different ads with different women pop up. . .
When you google the phone number, different ads with different women pop up. . .I text her today. When the bareback question came up, she just replied that she doesn't like bareback too much. As alternative she offered me her asshole. Either way I like. I did search the number and so far did not see any flags. Keep looking into it. Did not jump yet. I already planned a double with Gina and Alexis tomorrow, otherwise I would have take one for the team.
UncleThrax
12-27-18, 22:06
When you google the phone number, different ads with different women pop up. . .Might be an agency that rotates girls. Uses the same address and phone number but different girls every few weeks or months. There's a place like that in Queens that does that.
Or, it could be Uncle LEO with a surprise for you. Who knows.
Might be an agency that rotates girls. Uses the same address and phone number but different girls every few weeks or months. There's a place like that in Queens that does that.
Or, it could be Uncle LEO with a surprise for you. Who knows.No sign of uncle LEO this time. To answer your other questions. She told me that she had a boss (which possibly made her more accommodating to my requests) and that there was another girl. I negotiated terms in advance via text after trying first with her companion (who stated that she was not up for BBFS). Re: looks her body is not the greatest but she is not out of shape just very thick with a slightly strange. She doesn't look as hot as the photos. A couple of distinguishing features of the service was that she used an unusual amount of lube for the service (I assume that she was feeling sore) with the related loss in feeling for me. She's a nice enough lady and told me all about herself if you are into that. I spoke to her in Spanish the whole time so I don't know if that helped my case (YMMV).
BTW I'd really appreciate it if someone with Dr Liza's personal number would forward it as I've managed to delete it from my phone. If you can give me just the last four digits I can probably work out the rest.
Thanks.
Cj man I fucking love you thanks man I was kinda paranoid because you don't post a lot and I'm always a little paranoid of getting set up but your info was good. So talked with her all day today and finally saw her earlier today. I asked about BBFS before and she said yes but nothing about prices. When I got to her room I was about to pay her when I asked because she forgot about the convo about BBFS she was reluctant and kept asking why I want to do it without but I told her I like it without makes me feel better and I turned on the charm and fortunate for me I have a baby face and look like I'm 16 seriously everybody tells me at work and when I see providers so she said she'll do it but for the 50 tip no cip. She said if I wanted to cip it was 100 so I was already there she wouldn't budge and I needed to bust my nut and her ass was nice I said yes. She isn't no model but I liked her look pics are not accurate she's a little thicker which I prefer. We started with missionary and when I went in damn it was nice and warm in there. Hit it in doggy then did reverse cowgirl and finished in missionary but with me standing on the side of the bed and her on the edge and I blew deep inside her. Had a good time she isn't a model but if I wanted to fuck models I would have stayed and finished college so I can make more then I am with my old man but fuck it I never liked school and looks aren't my thing I just need a decent body and a phat ass and I'm all good. BBFS is definitely YMMV I'm guessing what has happened is probably all the god damn lurkers started texting asking about BBFS after seeing cjs post and she probably got scared off of doing BBFS.
MateoCast98
12-28-18, 07:37
Cj man I fucking love you thanks man I was kinda paranoid because you don't post a lot and I'm always a little paranoid of getting set up but your info was good. So talked with her all day today and finally saw her earlier today. I asked about BBFS before and she said yes but nothing about prices. When I got to her room I was about to pay her when I asked because she forgot about the convo about BBFS she was reluctant and kept asking why I want to do it without but I told her I like it without makes me feel better and I turned on the charm and fortunate for me I have a baby face and look like I'm 16 seriously everybody tells me at work and when I see providers so she said she'll do it but for the 50 tip no cip. She said if I wanted tohttps://manhattan.bedpage.com/escorts/manhattan-new-york-ny-usa/6454609.html cip it was 100 so I was already there she wouldn't budge and I needed to bust my nut and her ass was nice I said yes. She isn't no model but I liked her look pics are not accurate she's a little thicker which I prefer. We started with missionary and when I went in damn it was nice and warm in there. Hit it in doggy then did reverse cowgirl and finished in missionary but with me standing on the side of the bed and her on the edge and I blew deep inside her. Had a good time she isn't a model but if I wanted to fuck models I would have stayed and finished college so I can make more then I am with my old man but fuck it I never liked school and looks aren't my thing I just need a decent body and a phat ass and I'm all good.Is she the girl in the video on her ad?
https://manhattan.bedpage.com/escorts/manhattan-new-york-ny-usa/6454609.html
Is she the girl in the video on her ad?
https://manhattan.bedpage.com/escorts/manhattan-new-york-ny-usa/6454609.htmlNo not her but she still looks good.
UncleThrax
12-28-18, 10:18
No sign of uncle LEO this time. To answer your other questions. She told me that she had a boss (which possibly made her more accommodating to my requests) and that there was another girl. I negotiated terms in advance via text after trying first with her companion (who stated that she was not up for BBFS). Re: looks her body is not the greatest but she is not out of shape just very thick with a slightly strange. She doesn't look as hot as the photos. A couple of distinguishing features of the service was that she used an unusual amount of lube for the service (I assume that she was feeling sore) with the related loss in feeling for me. She's a nice enough lady and told me all about herself if you are into that. I spoke to her in Spanish the whole time so I don't know if that helped my case (YMMV).
BTW I'd really appreciate it if someone with Dr Liza's personal number would forward it as I've managed to delete it from my phone. If you can give me just the last four digits I can probably work out the rest.
Thanks.Thanks, I PMd you the number I have but I read earlier that she's out of the game and has a regular 9-5 now. So good luck with that.
UncleThrax
12-28-18, 11:45
Is she the girl in the video on her ad?
https://manhattan.bedpage.com/escorts/manhattan-new-york-ny-usa/6454609.htmlSide note, I just saw a posting on Switter from a reputable provider that bedpage may be affiliated with LEO. Just a heads up.
Hines Karlton
12-28-18, 12:01
I effed dr Liza once and that's it.
I would get checked out if I were you dudes.
She lets all types of dude bust in her mouth and pussy.
Shit had me paranoid. You claim to be a doctor in Russia but so reckless.
Black Spanish white she will take you in her and let you let off in her.
Dirty clean she don't give a eff.
Side note, I just saw a posting on Switter from a reputable provider that bedpage may be affiliated with LEO. Just a heads up.Damn that sucks can trust any place these days but I saw her and she's legit.
UncleThrax
12-28-18, 15:20
Damn that sucks can trust any place these days but I saw her and she's legit.That's good to know, thanks for the info. Just be careful with electronic communication because apparently LEOs can hack it. I don't know exactly how much of what was in the picture was truth and what was speculation.
I've also heard of providers occasionally turning tail and helping the cops set up stings as part of deals to avoid jailtime. I don't know how much truth there is to that either though.
I effed dr Liza once and that's it.
I would get checked out if I were you dudes.
She lets all types of dude bust in her mouth and pussy.
Shit had me paranoid. You claim to be a doctor in Russia but so reckless.
Black Spanish white she will take you in her and let you let off in her.
Dirty clean she don't give a eff.Re: BBFS risks this hobby is very common in Europe and I've had many discussions there afterwards when I ask the girls to show me their medications. Those who were being careful were taking BOTH antibiotics and antivirals. Dr Liza was definitely smart enough to know these things also but I never asked her to show me her meds. These days they are advertised in the subway of course.
Fun Traveler
12-28-18, 21:31
Unless I see a provider from years gone by (with the same phone number), I pretty much don't trust much anything on Bedpage and the other Backpage knockoffs. Some of the ads are so obviously fake, it's kind of comical. First rule for me for any ad, from any provider on any listing platform: Cross-check their phone number.
Is the number on any review sites? Have they been placing ads on various platforms for a while now? All of these signs indicate that the ad is most likely legit.
Side note, I just saw a posting on Switter from a reputable provider that bedpage may be affiliated with LEO. Just a heads up.
Side note, I just saw a posting on Switter from a reputable provider that bedpage may be affiliated with LEO. Just a heads up.This "rumor" has been floating around for a while now. I say "rumor" because as far as I or anyone I know can tell, it's not owned or operated by LEO. But they do post ads there just like they do on ALL the boards. And they do monitor it, just like they do ALL the boards. As a friend of mine who used to work for one of those 3-initial agencies said: LEO wouldn't own any of the sites. It's too much money, time and effort to keep it running, and too easy for word to spread that they own the site defeating the purpose of owning the site. But, when the mood strikes (such as during election time, or when budgets are up for renewal) they do post ads and call girls who post ads so they can make as many busts as they can.
That's good to know, thanks for the info. Just be careful with electronic communication because apparently LEOs can hack it. I don't know exactly how much of what was in the picture was truth and what was speculation.
I've also heard of providers occasionally turning tail and helping the cops set up stings as part of deals to avoid jailtime. I don't know how much truth there is to that either though.It's absolutely true that at times the cops will get some escort to work for them temporarily in order to avoid jail time.
But it's far more likely for them to just put up a fake ad with a fake picture and have dudes come to their hotel room where a female cop is waiting for them.
Staying at the Manhattan Hotel BBFS was on the menu for $250. Service was decent but not a looker. Beats a visit to the Chinese granmas.
https://cityxguide.com/escorts/sexy-stefany-colombian-917-708-3402-13462498/Are her pics accurate?
Are her pics accurate?No pics are not her at all she's thicker but still got nice phat ass and a decent body.
UncleThrax
12-29-18, 18:08
Saw her last night. Cute but a little bit too slender and too young (she really is 19) for my tastes.
She reluctantly did BBFSCIP, though she didn't really seem to mind it. Doesn't do Greek (she didn't even know what that meant until I explained it.).
Sex was meh, but she did the job.
Fun to talk to and smoke with but not sure if the experience was worth 300/ hr. Especially if that Latina that someone posted earlier (Stefany?) is 250/ hr and has a way better body.
Emma comes to NYC every month supposedly, so I guess she's good for a regular thing?
Not sure if I'd repeat but nice to have as a relatively affordable option.
Kinosellis
12-29-18, 19:24
Saw her last night. Cute but a little bit too slender and too young (she really is 19) for my tastes.
She reluctantly did BBFSCIP, though she didn't really seem to mind it. Doesn't do Greek (she didn't even know what that meant until I explained it.).
Sex was meh, but she did the job.
Fun to talk to and smoke with but not sure if the experience was worth 300/ hr. Especially if that Latina that someone posted earlier (Stefany?) is 250/ hr and has a way better body.
Emma comes to NYC every month supposedly, so I guess she's good for a regular thing?
Not sure if I'd repeat but nice to have as a relatively affordable option.Yup glad I could help.
Hi mongers,
From my experience Stefany's offerings truly are YMMV. Via text I requested BBFS (hh) for 190. When I showed up I was happy to see an attractive but not stunning white Hispanic (about 5'4" with some curves, nice altered Ds, and an athletic ass and the larger size). Unfortunately (for me) there was no happy ending. She immediately employed the "my manager promised bare" game but offered BBBJ with covered FS for 190. I motioned for my cash back and she seemed to relent and said "okay let me check you first". These were some of the few english words she used. She spoke spanish in order to put on the front that she did not know I wanted uncovered FS.
Stefany motioned for me to pull down my drawers and she carefully inspected my junk. She then said okay. I assumed this meant BBFS was clear for take off. Moments laters she motions to her month and motions as to make it clear she was once again only offering bbj. After a minute more of back and forth I took my cash and left.
I will say, Stefany is worth a visit for covered service. I just wouldn't go with the expectation of BBFS. I will say I am young and black and was not able to convey much charm in my broken spanish LOL.
UncleThrax
12-29-18, 21:28
Hi mongers,
From my experience Stefany's offerings truly are YMMV. Via text I requested BBFS (hh) for 190. When I showed up I was happy to see an attractive but not stunning white Hispanic (about 5'4" with some curves, nice altered Ds, and an athletic ass and the larger size). Unfortunately (for me) there was no happy ending. She immediately employed the "my manager promised bare" game but offered BBBJ with covered FS for 190. I motioned for my cash back and she seemed to relent and said "okay let me check you first". These were some of the few english words she used. She spoke spanish in order to put on the front that she did not know I wanted uncovered FS.
Stefany motioned for me to pull down my drawers and she carefully inspected my junk. She then said okay. I assumed this meant BBFS was clear for take off. Moments laters she motions to her month and motions as to make it clear she was once again only offering bbj. After a minute more of back and forth I took my cash and left.
I will say, Stefany is worth a visit for covered service. I just wouldn't go with the expectation of BBFS. I will say I am young and black and was not able to convey much charm in my broken spanish LOL.One of the lessons I've learned more than a few times is that if something seems to good to be true, it probably is.
Whether I was on SA, Switter, or just looking through BP, CL, etc.
In general, (CDPs like the dollhouse seem to be SOMEWHAT of an exception), it seems like any provider offering their services for below 400/ hr, especially if they claim to offer BBFS / CIP and other extras is one of the following:
- An online scammer.
- A "rinser".
- Lying and planning on a bait / switch tactic like.
Stefany did according to the previous post.
- Not the girl in the photos.
- Really old AND unattractive. There are older providers and ex adult stars who are still good looking and will offer good multi hour rates if they like you, but it STILL won't come out to less than 3-400/ hr.
-A set up for a robbery. Thankfully I haven't run into this.
- LEO looking for a quick bust. Thankfully I also haven't run into this since I absolutely cannot risk having an arrest record tarnish my career / employment.
Did I miss anything?
That's just my two cents worth of experience thus far. Mostly I've just run into rinsers and online scammers and they all have extremely predictable patterns. So they're easy to spot once you've run into them once.
UncleThrax
12-30-18, 01:01
Yup glad I could help.Definitely, thanks for your initial review. Much appreciated.
In general, (CDPs like the dollhouse seem to be SOMEWHAT of an exception), it seems like any provider offering their services for below 400/ hr, especially if they claim to offer BBFS / CIP and other extras is one of the following:I'm not sure if I follow you. There are plenty providers out there at 200/ hr or under who are perfectly fine by all means and some even offer BBFS. Admittedly I am not talking particularly about Manhattan scene but I'm under an impression (perhaps incorrect one) you are generalizing for the entire NYC metro area.
UncleThrax
12-30-18, 07:23
One of the lessons I've learned more than a few times is that if something seems to good to be true, it probably is.
Whether I was on SA, Switter, or just looking through BP, CL, etc.
In general, (CDPs like the dollhouse seem to be SOMEWHAT of an exception), it seems like any provider offering their services for below 400/ hr, especially if they claim to offer BBFS / CIP and other extras is one of the following:
- An online scammer.
- A "rinser".
- Lying and planning on a bait / switch tactic like.
Stefany did according to the previous post.
- Not the girl in the photos.
- Really old AND unattractive. There are older providers and ex adult stars who are still good looking and will offer good multi hour rates if they like you, but it STILL won't come out to less than 3-400/ hr.
-A set up for a robbery. Thankfully I haven't run into this.
- LEO looking for a quick bust. Thankfully I also haven't run into this since I absolutely cannot risk having an arrest record tarnish my career / employment.
Did I miss anything?
That's just my two cents worth of experience thus far. Mostly I've just run into rinsers and online scammers and they all have extremely predictable patterns. So they're easy to spot once you've run into them once.I forgot to add to the list: requesting unusually high deposit rates. I know some here subscribe by never paying a deposit, but I've actually had good experiences so far with anyone off of Eros. That being said, anyone who requests more than 10-25% MAX of the appointment as an initial deposit, I would consider HIGHLY SUSPECT, especially if it's someone you haven't previously seen.
UncleThrax
12-30-18, 13:00
I'm not sure if I follow you. There are plenty providers out there at 200/ hr or under who are perfectly fine by all means and some even offer BBFS. Admittedly I am not talking particularly about Manhattan scene but I'm under an impression (perhaps incorrect one) you are generalizing for the entire NYC metro area.Yeah I definitely meant the metro area (mostly Manhattan) and SA too for the most part. I was also generalizing about providers offering BBFSCIP. If you want regular covered services, yeah you can find that for 200 and below. I just wouldn't pay for that.
I've met a few SA girls who are willing to do uncovered for that low but they were all outside of the 5 boroughs and some wouldn't do CIP.
So I was talking about finding a provider or SB, etc. Who would do ALL services uncovered including CIP / CIA / CIM w / swallow and wasn't really old or fat / unattractive / a tranny etc.
That seems to be impossible to find for under 3-400/ hr or 3-400 per meet for SBs.
Yeah I definitely meant the metro area (mostly Manhattan) and SA too for the most part. I was also generalizing about providers offering BBFSCIP. If you want regular covered services, yeah you can find that for 200 and below. I just wouldn't pay for that.
I've met a few SA girls who are willing to do uncovered for that low but they were all outside of the 5 boroughs and some wouldn't do CIP.
So I was talking about finding a provider or SB, etc. Who would do ALL services uncovered including CIP / CIA / CIM w / swallow and wasn't really old or fat / unattractive / a tranny etc.
That seems to be impossible to find for under 3-400/ hr or 3-400 per meet for SBs.I am sure some will attest that they are out there, including myself. Maybe you are not mongering hard enough. Hahaha. . .
UncleThrax
12-30-18, 19:20
I am sure some will attest that they are out there, including myself. Maybe you are not mongering hard enough. Hahaha. . .Haha entirely possible as I'm relatively new to this hobby. But in my experience, especially on SA, the lower thr rate goes, the more drama and problems you encounter. Flakiness, excuses, drug habits, etc.
Not sure if it's the same with semi pro and professionals, but that's what I've found.
If you have any tips or leads on how (or WHO) to get a better bang for my buck, I'd greatly appreciate it if you shared that knowledge with me.
The only other girls below $400 that you can get raw dog with on the regular are big booty crackheads Its funny because we can say that the $400 girls do b. Are but I almost never hear of the $1000 and up girls doing that service. I think anyone is crazy to pay those prices anyway LOL. But look at the girls we have named in this long thread notice they are always in that ball park of $400/$500? The guys spending 500 dollars more I wonder if its worth it to them and if they are getting anything extra at all cause I can't see it. Of all the ladies charging 1000 I can't recall the last review of them with someone saying they did bare. Also not shockingly these are the same ones to use that line about how they think "a real man wouldn't write reviews" "I think what happens with us should be discreet and I'm against reviews".
Something else I wish though is that there were more Black women in Manhattan that were doing bareback.
Tex Longhorn
12-31-18, 00:19
The only other girls below $400 that you can get raw dog with on the regular are big booty crackheads Its funny because we can say that the $400 girls do b. Are but I almost never hear of the $1000 and up girls doing that service. I think anyone is crazy to pay those prices anyway LOL. But look at the girls we have named in this long thread notice they are always in that ball park of $400/$500? The guys spending 500 dollars more I wonder if its worth it to them and if they are getting anything extra at all cause I can't see it. Of all the ladies charging 1000 I can't recall the last review of them with someone saying they did bare. Also not shockingly these are the same ones to use that line about how they think "a real man wouldn't write reviews" "I think what happens with us should be discreet and I'm against reviews".
Something else I wish though is that there were more Black women in Manhattan that were doing bareback.I see many advertising on listcrawler.
Haha entirely possible as I'm relatively new to this hobby. But in my experience, especially on SA, the lower thr rate goes, the more drama and problems you encounter. Flakiness, excuses, drug habits, etc.
Not sure if it's the same with semi pro and professionals, but that's what I've found.
If you have any tips or leads on how (or WHO) to get a better bang for my buck, I'd greatly appreciate it if you shared that knowledge with me.It depends. If you work out a long term arrangement you can find a knockout for like $1500 a month.
But for just a one time fuck you're probably best off doing like $400-500 for an afternoon with a lady who can host. It never fails and you can pick pretty much any model out there. I usually prefer the eastern European bombshells and always start by being very direct, and telling them I'm looking for a kinky, and submissive SB that's discreet. I prefer it they host, etc. When we get to allowance I tell them it depends on what they're comfortable with, but up to $800/ meet or $5-6 k / month. That gets their attention. Then they inevitably ask how can they get $800/ meet and I tell them. 1, they must host. 2, I get into some of the specifics about sexual preferences and mention CIM, CIP, and CIA. Some will say no anal and boom, price drops by $200-300.3- I mention golden showers and rimming. Again, many scoff so again, price can drop. Once in a while I'll get a kinky **** who is OK with everything and then I tell her I expect her to leave me totally drained, 3 pops and will reward her accordingly, $400 for 1, $600 for 2, $800 for 3.
Kinosellis
12-31-18, 00:29
The only other girls below $400 that you can get raw dog with on the regular are big booty crackheads Its funny because we can say that the $400 girls do b. Are but I almost never hear of the $1000 and up girls doing that service. I think anyone is crazy to pay those prices anyway LOL. But look at the girls we have named in this long thread notice they are always in that ball park of $400/$500? The guys spending 500 dollars more I wonder if its worth it to them and if they are getting anything extra at all cause I can't see it. Of all the ladies charging 1000 I can't recall the last review of them with someone saying they did bare. Also not shockingly these are the same ones to use that line about how they think "a real man wouldn't write reviews" "I think what happens with us should be discreet and I'm against reviews".
Something else I wish though is that there were more Black women in Manhattan that were doing bareback.In my experience, when meeting that price level it isn't spoken about openly but being open is almost something that's just unspoken. But that's my experience. This is excluding pornstars.
Something else I wish though is that there were more Black women in Manhattan that were doing bareback.That's surprising. I don't see many black or Asian providers as I'm partial to European women, but literally every single black escort I've seen (something like six out of six) has offered BBFS. And these were all ladies in the $200-400/ hour range.
I see many advertising on listcrawler.I think a lot of those are setups by pimps though or just blatant trolling. Many girls have lost business since BP and CL went down so on listcrawler many have been being extra desperate in their posts. Some do go through with the extra services advertised but the majority are lazy just like in the BP era and just say those services to trick the guy into coming.
I am sure some will attest that they are out there, including myself. Maybe you are not mongering hard enough. Hahaha. . .Yeah, I can confirm they are out there but ot requires some trail and error process. Just for example, I once found this Russian chick, in her 30's, not beautiful but not ugly either, and she would take it bare in both holes, allowing switching from one to another, back and forth and finishing in whichever one you wanted. All this just for 100. I was under impression she just liked it. She was bot my type so I saw her only two times but yeah, it's possible to find those out there.
Went to see Emma Rose from Diamonds. No go on BBFS and I received a lecture from her on the risks associated with that. She did confirm that Chanel died from drug overdose.
Also went to see Chloe from Pearls, but she was busy with another dude even though we had an appointment together. Ended up with some chick (Stephanie I think). Also no go on BBFS. But I was glad she refused since she seemed cracked out. Probably won't visit either place again.
Looking at Gaga from AS. It's 300 per session. Anyone who has seen her, how much tip do you provide on top for BBFS / CIP?
Thanks!
Went to see Emma Rose from Diamonds. No go on BBFS and I received a lecture from her on the risks associated with that. She did confirm that Chanel died from drug overdose.
Also went to see Chloe from Pearls, but she was busy with another dude even though we had an appointment together. Ended up with some chick (Stephanie I think). Also no go on BBFS. But I was glad she refused since she seemed cracked out. Probably won't visit either place again.
Looking at Gaga from AS. It's 300 per session. Anyone who has seen her, how much tip do you provide on top for BBFS / CIP?
Thanks!No tip at least with me she straight up told me as long as I see her for the hour which is 300 I don't need to give tip. I saw her first time for half and it was 180 but she doesn't want to do half and BBFS is YMMV she will say no but if your charming enough she'll let you fuck raw if not your shit out of luck. I thought I was shit out of luck cause we were already fucking with a Jimmy on and I told her I'm clean I'm young and when I come back I'll only see you worked like a charm and my youthful trusting face smiling at her she trusted me and ripped the condom off but said no cip but I blew my load in her mouth. Random people have stopped me asking for directions because I LOOK like I can be trusted guess it is true because it worked with Stefany and gaga cause I got BBFS and Stefany didn't even check my junk like the other dude she just got into position and told me to put it in
The only other girls below $400 that you can get raw dog with on the regular are big booty crackheads Its funny because we can say that the $400 girls do b. Are but I almost never hear of the $1000 and up girls doing that service. I think anyone is crazy to pay those prices anyway LOL. But look at the girls we have named in this long thread notice they are always in that ball park of $400/$500? The guys spending 500 dollars more I wonder if its worth it to them and if they are getting anything extra at all cause I can't see it. Of all the ladies charging 1000 I can't recall the last review of them with someone saying they did bare. Also not shockingly these are the same ones to use that line about how they think "a real man wouldn't write reviews" "I think what happens with us should be discreet and I'm against reviews".
Something else I wish though is that there were more Black women in Manhattan that were doing bareback.I've been doing this for nearly 40 years. I've met LOTS of women who charged less than $400/ hr who did bare who were not "big booty crackheads" or even skinny crackheads. And there are plenty of porn stars who charge $800 and up, who do bare.
I don't always post reviews for various reasons. I've probably only posted a review for about 1 in 10 or maybe 20 dates (most of the reviews were on another board that is now effectively gone at least as far as the USA Is concerned). But, just because you don't see reviews doesn't mean that these women don't exist. In fact, I'd be willing to wager that the number of "clients" that read and post reviews are smaller than the number of "clients" that don't post. One agent told me that they don't care what we say on the boards because we (the guys who use the boards) make up a small percentage of their clientele.
Teclis1283
01-01-19, 14:20
So there is this switter profile that claims she offers BBFS. She is a pornhub mod but it seems to good to be true. She goes by keriloveesyou411. I want to take the plunge but at the same time I am scared it might be Uncle five O waiting for me. Her prices are ridiculous as well. Anyone had any experience with her or know if this is legit.
Went to see Emma Rose from Diamonds. No go on BBFS and I received a lecture from her on the risks associated with that. She did confirm that Chanel died from drug overdose.
Also went to see Chloe from Pearls, but she was busy with another dude even though we had an appointment together. Ended up with some chick (Stephanie I think). Also no go on BBFS. But I was glad she refused since she seemed cracked out. Probably won't visit either place again.
Looking at Gaga from AS. It's 300 per session. Anyone who has seen her, how much tip do you provide on top for BBFS / CIP?
Thanks!Is she really the girl on the pictures. I was looking forward to see her but our schedule does not synchronize. Besides no bareback, is she good.
So there is this switter profile that claims she offers BBFS. She is a pornhub mod but it seems to good to be true. She goes by keriloveesyou411. I want to take the plunge but at the same time I am scared it might be Uncle five O waiting for me. Her prices are ridiculous as well. Anyone had any experience with her or know if this is legit.This one might be real. Just make sure you are actually talking to that person. This probably isn't a sting but I'm thinking it could be a scam. Don't send deposit money LOL.
UncleThrax
01-01-19, 18:36
So there is this switter profile that claims she offers BBFS. She is a pornhub mod but it seems to good to be true. She goes by keriloveesyou411. I want to take the plunge but at the same time I am scared it might be Uncle five O waiting for me. Her prices are ridiculous as well. Anyone had any experience with her or know if this is legit.I looked keri love up via Google and found her email through her tweets. I emailed her asking about the switter account and got the response in the attached screenshot.
She also told me that she doesn't see fans.
So feel free to use the screenshot to call "her" out on switter.
UncleThrax
01-01-19, 18:41
I looked keri love up via Google and found her email through her tweets. I emailed her asking about the switter account and got the response in the attached screenshot.
She also told me that she doesn't see fans.
So feel free to use the screenshot to call "her" out on switter.I'm honestly starting to wonder if Switter is worth it, as it seems to be a hotbed of scammers. Who knows when you might end up running into a DT instead.
SpaspaHunter
01-01-19, 19:05
I'm honestly starting to wonder if Switter is worth it, as it seems to be a hotbed of scammers. Who knows when you might end up running into a DT instead.It's the same as any other site, do your homework to confirm who you're talking with best you can.
If you're specifically searching NYC you're not going to have much choices anyway.
I know for a fact that some local girls near me use it but I can't see them because I don't shit where I eat or at least try not to.
UncleThrax
01-01-19, 20:15
It's the same as any other site, do your homework to confirm who you're talking with best you can.
If you're specifically searching NYC you're not going to have much choices anyway.
I know for a fact that some local girls near me use it but I can't see them because I don't shit where I eat or at least try not to.Many of these providers don't seem to have a website, social media accounts, etc.
Eros at least has a verification system, and I avoided any provider that wasn't Eros verified.
Switter is lacking that and it seems impossible to get positive verification most of the time.
If anything, it seems easier to determine whether or not they're a scammer because all scammers tend to hit the same red flags.
One of the big things that bothers me on switter for example, is it seems that every provider, scam or not, wants booking deposits in the form of hotel gift cards.
Regardless of whether or not you agree with the idea of paying deposits, the whole gift card thing reeks of scam to me.
WhyTF can't they just accept PayPal, Venmo, Zelle etc. Like so many adult stars and Eros providers do?
SpaspaHunter
01-01-19, 23:56
Many of these providers don't seem to have a website, social media accounts, etc.
Eros at least has a verification system, and I avoided any provider that wasn't Eros verified.
Switter is lacking that and it seems impossible to get positive verification most of the time.
If anything, it seems easier to determine whether or not they're a scammer because all scammers tend to hit the same red flags.
One of the big things that bothers me on switter for example, is it seems that every provider, scam or not, wants booking deposits in the form of hotel gift cards.
Regardless of whether or not you agree with the idea of paying deposits, the whole gift card thing reeks of scam to me.
WhyTF can't they just accept PayPal, Venmo, Zelle etc. Like so many adult stars and Eros providers do?Um. I have read about how girls using fake profile pictures were getting the verified tag so verified means shit in that case. There's a few on Eros I wanted to see too that are verified but they're coming off as risky because they have the same hotel room photos and have a similar style advert and seem to sign on at the same times so you can say it's safer but is it really? It's good to see a verified tag but they need to have a history too.
The only reason they ask for deposit is they're scared you'll do a no show on them. If they don't have a history and can't lock down a date with you without a deposit, walk.
For real you can get that shit waived 9/10, they have bills to pay too.
They might not have a website or other accounts but their phone numbers will usually get you some hits back. Not all girls have that and even Eros doesn't let them list websites now. Hell they don't even let you see who's GFE anymore.
Teclis1283
01-02-19, 00:42
I looked keri love up via Google and found her email through her tweets. I emailed her asking about the switter account and got the response in the attached screenshot.
She also told me that she doesn't see fans.
So feel free to use the screenshot to call "her" out on switter.Thanks for the detective work. On the real Kerri Love pornhub account, she posted that she is bed ridden with the flu since Christmas Day. Now I am certain 100% this is a scam or Uncle Five O. I emailed the fake Keri Love on exactly this, and provide more proof and haven't gotten a reply. When I texted the fake a few days back, she quoted 250 for BBFS with initial deposit of 175. LOL! Hence my skepticism.
Many of these providers don't seem to have a website, social media accounts, etc.
Eros at least has a verification system, and I avoided any provider that wasn't Eros verified.
Switter is lacking that and it seems impossible to get positive verification most of the time.
If anything, it seems easier to determine whether or not they're a scammer because all scammers tend to hit the same red flags.
One of the big things that bothers me on switter for example, is it seems that every provider, scam or not, wants booking deposits in the form of hotel gift cards.
Regardless of whether or not you agree with the idea of paying deposits, the whole gift card thing reeks of scam to me.
WhyTF can't they just accept PayPal, Venmo, Zelle etc. Like so many adult stars and Eros providers do?That's because the hotel gift card thing IS a scam and has been reported as such else where. There's a string of fake profiles on switter most likely operating under the same person / organization using this method. I've been using switter since it started and frankly it has never been worth using. Unfortunately there are few options available as the community in my area is pretty much based on switter.
Is she really the girl on the pictures. I was looking forward to see her but our schedule does not synchronize. Besides no bareback, is she good.Hard to say if that's her in the pics, because her face is hidden. But I do remember thinking that she's a bit thicker than her profile pics. She's pretty good otherwise. DFK while fucking is nice. I've come across lots of girls who don't do that any more. She is a sweet girl and besides no BBFS, I'd recommend.
I'm honestly starting to wonder if Switter is worth it, as it seems to be a hotbed of scammers. Who knows when you might end up running into a DT instead.I have found plenty gems on switter based in Brooklyn and Manhattan. Unfortunately almost all of them are not BBFS gems. LOL.
UncleThrax
01-02-19, 19:43
That's because the hotel gift card thing IS a scam and has been reported as such else where. There's a string of fake profiles on switter most likely operating under the same person / organization using this method. I've been using switter since it started and frankly it has never been worth using. Unfortunately there are few options available as the community in my area is pretty much based on switter.Has ANYONE had any positive experiences on Switter? I just looked it up and the Reddit is full of complaints from everyone who uses it. They range from talking about the shitty interface to SWs talking about almost getting busted.
I don't see much about hobbysists experiences though with regards to SWs they've met there.
Has ANYONE had any positive experiences on Switter? I just looked it up and the Reddit is full of complaints from everyone who uses it. They range from talking about the shitty interface to SWs talking about almost getting busted.
I don't see much about hobbysists experiences though with regards to SWs they've met there.I've met 2 people from switter, but that was for covered FS.
If you're looking for switter for BBFS, you're not going find many.
UncleThrax
01-02-19, 20:06
I've met 2 people from switter, but that was for covered FS.
If you're looking for switter for BBFS, you're not going find many.Yeah, and it seems like the scammers use the scarcity of BBFS as bait. I'm done with this site.
Yeah, and it seems like the scammers use the scarcity of BBFS as bait. I'm done with this site.Yea, I think the girls on the site don't like BBFS or even the mention of it. Also I think in the rules of switter advertising BBFS is not allowed.
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