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Kaamper
09-01-21, 10:40
by the way whoever was in the other room, Miso's roommate sounded hot, heard her moaning the entire time LOL.Pretty sure Adela is in the room next to Miso. Adela is hot and does moan loudly. She is more "normal" sized compared to Miso, but still small and thin. Big upgrade in service. Recommended, but be prepared for her to cancel at the last minute. Saw that Adela and Miso were offering double. I might need to check that out!

LonerRanger
09-01-21, 11:20
Anyone getting in any awkward situation during pillow talk, listening to Kgirl go on about how she wants to go in halfs on a baby, to the point of awkwardness? I experienced a similar situation a few years ago in a massage parlor, but that was before all the Ancestry dotcom bullshit. Even though I can't imagine how it would work, with homegirl taking loads all day, I'm also slightly paranoid that if I don't know who "the mark" is, it might be me!If you heard this from Allie with Booker "M" she is just joking.

IAmGib1
09-01-21, 11:39
Anyone try Daphne? Someone said she is Sinbi or Sinvee of the past?

Bunny Whip
09-01-21, 11:50
It doesn't show up on with all browsers. I had to switch to MS edge and it now shows.


This will help you explore the Bay Area: https://bayareakoreangirls.com/.

If you scroll down to the bottom, it looks like he set up domains and directories for other K-girl hotspots in the US, too. That wasn't there a few weeks ago.

Toungsten
09-01-21, 11:51
M. Nicole.

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/........

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/........

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/........

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana, Nina, Nicole.

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung, Soyoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/......

RocketManP
09-01-21, 12:50
If you heard this from Allie with Booker "M" she is just joking.LOL, yeah. Allie literally tells it to everyone who BBs her or CIP. "Honey we have kids and go to Korea together". Don't worry about it, that's her humor. Nut and forget.

SsStuntCock
09-01-21, 16:15
LOL, yeah. Allie literally tells it to everyone who BBs her or CIP. "Honey we have kids and go to Korea together". Don't worry about it, that's her humor. Nut and forget.If there was anyone not named Hana, to star in one of those '50 Guy Creampie' movies it'd be Allie.

RealSexyPanda
09-01-21, 16:58
I normally stick to OC but will be changing things up in near future as I will be LA based more often.

Is 9-10 pm still the most common latest schedules for bookers here? Wondering if any recommendations for late (midnight - 2 am) sessions even exists?

Eponymously
09-01-21, 17:13
I normally stick to OC but will be changing things up in near future as I will be LA based more often.

Is 9-10 pm still the most common latest schedules for bookers here? Wondering if any recommendations for late (midnight - 2 am) sessions even exists?Providers set their own hours. I have definitely seen some listed on Bookergray and Candygirl going as late as 2 AM, but the majority have their last call at 10-11 PM.

SsStuntCock
09-01-21, 17:25
I normally stick to OC but will be changing things up in near future as I will be LA based more often.

Is 9-10 pm still the most common latest schedules for bookers here? Wondering if any recommendations for late (midnight - 2 am) sessions even exists?If the girl is down for it, she can always advocate on your behalf and see you later / earlier than the rest.

Veni1
09-01-21, 18:37
LOL, yeah. Allie literally tells it to everyone who BBs her or CIP. "Honey we have kids and go to Korea together". Don't worry about it, that's her humor. Nut and forget.She also tells you that you are so sexy and that you've got one of the biggest dicks out there. She's a charmer, no doubt.

Member #2210
09-01-21, 19:04
Pretty sure Adela is in the room next to Miso. Adela is hot and does moan loudly. She is more "normal" sized compared to Miso, but still small and thin. Big upgrade in service. Recommended, but be prepared for her to cancel at the last minute. Saw that Adela and Miso were offering double. I might need to check that out!Just finished a 30-min BBFS session with Adela. Overall, very enjoyable.

L: Pretty and very cute face, short hair. She's not tall but not real short either, height about the same as Viki (maybe slightly taller), taller than Nicole, listed as 5'2 on Candygirl website. Nice slender and proportional body, nice sized fake tits, has a tattoo on her left abdomen, nice round ass esp. when she's giving me a BBBJ squatting in front of the mirror or being doggied.

A: Very friendly. Gave me a hug at the door and at end of session to make me feel welcome.

S: Typical, decent service. BBBJ good, no teeth, good suction but not as vacuum-suction tight as Viki's BBBJ. Good kissing but not 100% dfk, rode me CG hard and grinded me hard I mean real hard. Good moaning at times.

R: Yes, I would repeat. Damage $2.6

Kaamper
09-01-21, 19:55
rode me CG hard and grinded me hard I mean real hard. LOL CG is Adela's specialty. She has killed lesser men with that CG coochie.

Rei311
09-01-21, 19:58
If you heard this from Allie with Booker "M" she is just joking.Goddamn I thought I was special lmao. Allie's shower fuck is wild though. Calling my dick my brother and measuring my dick with a zigzag ruler was equally crazy but she's been by far my most pse experience while she was full GFE between breaks. Ara used to say such things too.

Abaddon143
09-01-21, 21:26
I prefer petite, Great service, and not fat body, I don't bit overweight. You think Becky from the Palace is worth it? I want bbf also. For this Answer I will give you European MILF. Ahah. She banging.

HexenDuction
09-01-21, 21:26
If Allie ever said it to me, I took it as a joke and forgot all about it.


If you heard this from Allie with Booker "M" she is just joking.

NintyNine
09-01-21, 21:39
Other girls should learn from Allie.

It's hot, and it's not hard to put up an act like that.

I lose my boner when girls are boring.

StorMalt1
09-01-21, 22:51
Seeing Pink for the first time tomorrow and I have what might be a dumb question. Girls who do BB have covers as an option, right? I don't really care about the hygiene thing everyone went on about a couple months ago, but just want to be a little safer is all. I've only been with the Newtop girls and they all do covers so I didn't think about it until now.

Cricket79
09-01-21, 23:03
I prefer petite, Great service, and not fat body, I don't bit overweight. You think Becky from the Palace is worth it? I want bbf also. For this Answer I will give you European MILF. Ahah. She banging.I was fucking Pepsi all through that apartment last week. Becky walked out she's tall and a bit heavy.

Ghost626
09-01-21, 23:55
I mostly book at the evening. Do girls stop taking appointment once they reach their booking goal.

Ghost626
09-01-21, 23:59
If you heard this from Allie with Booker "M" she is just joking.Probably said that to all first timer. Pepsi said same thing too. I love when Allie go ahead suck my dick after I"m about to change position.

Humyiy
09-02-21, 00:16
I normally stick to OC but will be changing things up in near future as I will be LA based more often.

Is 9-10 pm still the most common latest schedules for bookers here? Wondering if any recommendations for late (midnight - 2 am) sessions even exists?I've wondered the same because I work late.

I found that ********. Is / Newasianvibe. Is may be willing to go as late as 1 am-2 am.

ktownescort.com used to go as late as 3 am but now have go back to maybe latest at 12 am-1 am.

No one else goes late anymore.

Humyiy
09-02-21, 00:41
Just finished a 30-min BBFS session with Adela. Overall, very enjoyable.

L: Pretty and very cute face, short hair. She's not tall but not real short either, height about the same as Viki (maybe slightly taller), taller than Nicole, listed as 5'2 on Candygirl website. Nice slender and proportional body, nice sized fake tits, has a tattoo on her left abdomen, nice round ass esp. when she's giving me a BBBJ squatting in front of the mirror or being doggied.

A: Very friendly. Gave me a hug at the door and at end of session to make me feel welcome.

S: Typical, decent service. BBBJ good, no teeth, good suction but not as vacuum-suction tight as Viki's BBBJ. Good kissing but not 100% dfk, rode me CG hard and grinded me hard I mean real hard. Good moaning at times.

R: Yes, I would repeat. Damage $2.6How accurate especially for the face are those photos?

Abaddon143
09-02-21, 05:34
Becky is a cheerful fuck! She's pleasant and very accommodating. Her passionate DFK, awesome BBBJ, thorough Rim, and instantly jumping on your cock is just super cool. Her skills are so much like Pepsi's and I can only assume she has trained her very well. However, when I saw her last time, she has gained some weight around her waist in ugly way and it really turned me off.If service is like Pepsi I'm all in. But her body petite or, just little overweight? I like petite to normal body weight.

CrunchEazy
09-02-21, 09:11
I prefer petite, Great service, and not fat body, I don't bit overweight. You think Becky from the Palace is worth it? I want bbf also. For this Answer I will give you European MILF. Ahah. She banging.Becky is the one I keep seeing from the palace. Excellent service and nice ass but she is not petite. I would say around 120,130 lbs but she puts on the weight really well.

Ghao13
09-02-21, 09:36
I am sure this dates me and likely many on this board won't remember, but I might be visiting LA in Oct and was wondering if the Pepsi I saw way back in 1996 at an AMP off (I think) Manchester in Inglewood is likely the same one people have reviewed at the Palace. I found the name pretty unusual and always remembered it. She was fairly young then, maybe 20's which puts Pepsi into her late 40's.

Kaamper
09-02-21, 10:14
How accurate especially for the face are those photos?Current pics are fake. Search the forum for "Elena" and you can find real pics.

GoldDust58
09-02-21, 11:18
Seeing Pink for the first time tomorrow and I have what might be a dumb question. Girls who do BB have covers as an option, right? I don't really care about the hygiene thing everyone went on about a couple months ago, but just want to be a little safer is all. I've only been with the Newtop girls and they all do covers so I didn't think about it until now.Tell the booker you want to be safe. They will alert the girl and she will be ready. No change in the service flow if you do that. I used to request that a few years ago when I was safe only. Only one time did some crazy girl not comply. Vivi o Vivi.

StorMalt1
09-02-21, 11:32
Tell the booker you want to be safe. They will alert the girl and she will be ready. No change in the service flow if you do that. I used to request that a few years ago when I was safe only. Only one time did some crazy girl not comply. Vivi o Vivi.Appreciate it! Booker understood it.

Love Em
09-02-21, 12:25
Seeing Pink for the first time tomorrow and I have what might be a dumb question. Girls who do BB have covers as an option, right? I don't really care about the hygiene thing everyone went on about a couple months ago, but just want to be a little safer is all. I've only been with the Newtop girls and they all do covers so I didn't think about it until now.When I saw her recently for the first time, Pink asked if I wanted a cover. Have a great time!

Toungsten
09-02-21, 15:14
M. Nicole.

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/.........

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/.........

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/.........

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana, Nina, Nicole.

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung, Soyoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/.......

Hobovertise
09-02-21, 15:57
How do I contact M for screening / verification?

I don't see it listed on the myalbum.

Mainly want to try Allie as her reviews are really good.

RocketManP
09-02-21, 16:42
Seeing Pink for the first time tomorrow and I have what might be a dumb question. Girls who do BB have covers as an option, right? I don't really care about the hygiene thing everyone went on about a couple months ago, but just want to be a little safer is all. I've only been with the Newtop girls and they all do covers so I didn't think about it until now.of course. Just make sure you ask before they jump on you. With girls who do upcharge, I guess it's easier for them to keep track. LOL.

Jbjb1983
09-02-21, 17:57
Anyone getting in any awkward situation during pillow talk, listening to Kgirl go on about how she wants to go in halfs on a baby, to the point of awkwardness? I experienced a similar situation a few years ago in a massage parlor, but that was before all the Ancestry dotcom bullshit. Even though I can't imagine how it would work, with homegirl taking loads all day, I'm also slightly paranoid that if I don't know who "the mark" is, it might be me!When I first said it to Pink when she was fresh off the boat she was a little weirded out. But now she's screaming "give me your baby" as I am pounding her and busting inside of her. I also said it to Eunji and she now says to give her a baby in her belly when I bust in her too. I don't find it awkward LOL.

LngTimeMongr
09-02-21, 18:18
M. Nicole.

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/........

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/........

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/........

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana, Nina, Nicole.

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung, Soyoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/......How do you get into ktown girls?

AhardLanding
09-02-21, 19:18
Can also book via MarieK on Hx. MILFy sweetheart. K-town location. Gentle sweet smile. Lots of DFK. Shower average. Very nice slow BBBJ. Her pussy was clean and sweet and DATY was very tasty and good. She has beautiful natural B's with sensitive nipples. Cute little ass, reminded me of Cami with her strut into the shower. Her CG was average but she looked like was enjoying at at least. I wore the bag to keep up my fucking time. Standard positions, played with her asshole a bit, cum in mish with nice kissing. She takes it deep and fast but I didn't have the heart to pound her. Nice cuddles after. Her English and Mandarin exist but minimal. No small white dog. Gave me half her sandwich for lunch and we sat around for a few extra minutes. 280, BBFSCIP available for 340. But sex was average. Very nice girl, no regrets, no repeat.

HexenDuction
09-02-21, 22:00
This is what I wanted to know!


When I first said it to Pink when she was fresh off the boat she was a little weirded out. But now she's screaming "give me your baby" as I am pounding her and busting inside of her. I also said it to Eunji and she now says to give her a baby in her belly when I bust in her too. I don't find it awkward LOL.

LonerRanger
09-02-21, 22:25
Seeing Pink for the first time tomorrow and I have what might be a dumb question. Girls who do BB have covers as an option, right? I don't really care about the hygiene thing everyone went on about a couple months ago, but just want to be a little safer is all. I've only been with the Newtop girls and they all do covers so I didn't think about it until now.Of course the ladies who go BBFS will also use a cover if you request it. I would suggest you bring your own sheer / quality condom.

Toungsten
09-02-21, 23:50
How do you get into ktown girls?What are you looking for?

PepsiLover
09-03-21, 01:27
Can also book via MarieK on Hx. MILFy sweetheart. K-town location. Gentle sweet smile. Lots of DFK. Shower average. Very nice slow BBBJ. Her pussy was clean and sweet and DATY was very tasty and good. She has beautiful natural B's with sensitive nipples. Cute little ass, reminded me of Cami with her strut into the shower. Her CG was average but she looked like was enjoying at at least. I wore the bag to keep up my fucking time. Standard positions, played with her asshole a bit, cum in mish with nice kissing. She takes it deep and fast but I didn't have the heart to pound her. Nice cuddles after. Her English and Mandarin exist but minimal. No small white dog. Gave me half her sandwich for lunch and we sat around for a few extra minutes. 280, BBFSCIP available for 340. But sex was average. Very nice girl, no regrets, no repeat.How was the sandwich though?

Jack926
09-03-21, 01:52
Can also book via MarieK on Hx. MILFy sweetheart. K-town location. Gentle sweet smile. Lots of DFK. Shower average. Very nice slow BBBJ. Her pussy was clean and sweet and DATY was very tasty and good. She has beautiful natural B's with sensitive nipples. Cute little ass, reminded me of Cami with her strut into the shower. Her CG was average but she looked like was enjoying at at least. I wore the bag to keep up my fucking time. Standard positions, played with her asshole a bit, cum in mish with nice kissing. She takes it deep and fast but I didn't have the heart to pound her. Nice cuddles after. Her English and Mandarin exist but minimal. No small white dog. Gave me half her sandwich for lunch and we sat around for a few extra minutes. 280, BBFSCIP available for 340. But sex was average. Very nice girl, no regrets, no repeat.Bambi never met a dick that she did not want to fuck! She definitely enjoy her job and Yes, she is a nice Lady.

Ghost626
09-03-21, 02:13
Seeing Pink for the first time tomorrow and I have what might be a dumb question. Girls who do BB have covers as an option, right? I don't really care about the hygiene thing everyone went on about a couple months ago, but just want to be a little safer is all. I've only been with the Newtop girls and they all do covers so I didn't think about it until now.Pink ass is natural, she got the best looking ass I have seen For a girl that is not built like Eunji and Becky. To me She kinda look like the Kpop idol Jessica.

Atrr1
09-03-21, 14:49
How do you get into ktown girls?Text them a picture of your drivers license, picture of license next to your face, and pay stub so they can call your boss to verify that you want to make visits.

Owliee
09-03-21, 15:02
Sasha Candygirl picture looks ridiculously good. Anyone saw her? GFE only means she could be hot.Body is tight and b cup boobs.

Face is pretty bad.

Owliee
09-03-21, 15:03
Text them a picture of your drivers license, picture of license next to your face, and pay stub so they can call your boss to verify that you want to make visits.Also need to send full social security number.

RawrHard
09-03-21, 15:56
I remember I posted a review of someone a while back, and someone responded, "Yeah, but is she good at sex?" Maybe some heavy grinding does it for some of you, but I'm finding more and more that good communication is the biggest turn on. Hana's hot and I recently saw Nicole who gave a great sensual BJ. Nicole understood words like "fast" or "slow", but I always found it awkward when I couldn't get anything past beyond that.

Case in point: Saki. Man, this girl was awkward at first, like she wasn't quite there. She didn't understand a single thing I said. I somehow motioned that I would like to start and thought to myself at least she would be tight, right? But. I feel like I've had tighter, to say the least. Or maybe I was just turned off and couldn't keep a full erection. Then I tried to tell her I'd like to cuddle, and she made a weird face and starting humping me from behind. Awkward. I was about to leave half an hour in when she asked if I spoke Chinese. I do, roughly. So we started speaking in Chinese, LOL. She had an accent but it was understandable. And it turns out she was an exchange student in China, so she says. From that point on, the session got infinitely better, and I managed to finish twice, which I almost never do. Hana, Jenny, and Nina have never gotten a second shot out of me. Because I could never communicate to them what kind of stimulation I need. I think the last time was Kiss, years ago, because she just had masterful BJ technique.

So yeah, Saki's a weird girl, but if you speak Chinese or Korean, she might be okay. Unlike Emma, also a weird girl, but remains weird no matter what you speak.

P.S. Some of you have funny words about Nicole's face. I feel like the best description would be a stereotypical Asian auntie. Wasn't really my cup of tea.

Cricket79
09-03-21, 19:14
How do you get into ktown girls?Sometimes you knock gently but sometimes the Booker ask you to txt them when you're at the door.

TD Leafs
09-03-21, 21:26
Anyone know if she's still in LA?

Someone mentioned Allah is working as Adela but some also mentioned she's not?

Used to be Nicole's roomie.

Humyiy
09-03-21, 21:41
Pink ass is natural, she got the best looking ass I have seen For a girl that is not built like Eunji and Becky. To me She kinda look like the Kpop idol Jessica.Jessica Lee or Jessica Jung?

GoldDust58
09-03-21, 21:46
Anyone know if she's still in LA?

Someone mentioned Allah is working as Adela but some also mentioned she's not?

Used to be Nicole's roomie.Adela iso former Tia of NorCal. She has used the name Elena in LA. She has a tattoo either the word Allah. That is why it is confusing.

Allah is a different girl, unsure where she is at now.

Jack926
09-04-21, 00:30
Jessica Lee or Jessica Jung?Jessica Jung.

AhardLanding
09-04-21, 09:52
How was the sandwich though?Bought from local Tex-Mex place I think, sourdough bread, like Philly cheesesteak without the cheese. I went for the green sauce although the rojo was also available. I was offered the full Monty but I already have a gut so I turned down the second half. Water was consumed in the apartment, cold, small bottle, so as not to suggest that I had just paid for sex with an Asian woman when I walked out onto the street.

Hope this helps (LOL).

But, man, she speaks like no English at all.

Toungsten
09-04-21, 11:08
M. Nicole.

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/.........

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/.........

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/.........

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Nicole.

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung, Soyoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/.......

DaddyChill
09-04-21, 13:20
How do I contact M for screening / verification?

I don't see it listed on the myalbum.

Mainly want to try Allie as her reviews are really good.Look for one of her girl's reviews on TER. Her number will be listed on the providers profile.

This is what I did but she has yet to respond LOL. Seriously is M like an inner circle kind of booker?

Francescoo
09-04-21, 15:08
Look for one of her girl's reviews on TER. Her number will be listed on the providers profile.

This is what I did but she has yet to respond LOL. Seriously is M like an inner circle kind of booker?I tried for a very long time getting in!

Until one day I texted m and she asked me who I wanted to see and I went! Ever since I've been in her stables seeing the girls she brings! Can't complain.

DaddyChill
09-04-21, 16:01
I tried for a very long time getting in!

Until one day I texted m and she asked me who I wanted to see and I went! Ever since I've been in her stables seeing the girls she brings! Can't complain.So just hope and pray she responds one day? Ayayay.

PsuGuy911
09-04-21, 17:59
I tried for a very long time getting in!

Until one day I texted m and she asked me who I wanted to see and I went! Ever since I've been in her stables seeing the girls she brings! Can't complain.Yup I second that for the longest time years I could not get in covid hit and I guess times were tough and she responded been easy cruising ever since.

BonerAppetitty
09-04-21, 19:36
Wow she has 3 different names Etude / Lucky / Rose with same booker. I owed somebody a link to Lucky's more accurate pics which booker Gray is nice enough to posted for Etude / Rose. I have only seen good / decent reviews for her if you are into spinner with a good body.

Speaking of hot spinner with a great body, I guess nobody here wanted to review a girl who upcharged. Ktownkgirlz Suzi is hotter and younger than many girls mentioned here.

JungleFun
09-04-21, 19:38
So just hope and pray she responds one day? Ayayay.If business is slow she might get on hx and that's the easiet way to get in with her. With so many mongers having a hard time getting in makes me feel lucky. I didn't even know who M was or how notorious her agency is until a year later, but I was already in by then. Kinda like when I went up north and was able to book Yuna without realizing how hard it was for other to get in and be able to see her. She just happen to be available and the other agency either ignored me or "couldn't verify" my references. Got back here and then I found out how lucky I was to be able to see the NorCal version our Nana. Right place at the right time I suppose. Keep trying and it will pay off.

StopTheMonger
09-04-21, 22:09
Ktownkgirlz Suzi is hotter and younger than many girls mentioned here.Yo Boner.

Booker / site doesn't mention MSOG? I would try if MSOG offered, but CIP is a no so I have stayed away.

Ghost626
09-05-21, 02:02
Yo Boner.Booker / site doesn't mention MSOG? I would try if MSOG offered, but CIP is a no so I have stayed away.They are part of Ktownescorts. The agency that started the up charge I think.

Tony1628
09-05-21, 03:14
Anyone have intel on Karen from candygirl /2 pop? Thinking about checking her out this weekend.

TWill182
09-05-21, 10:43
They are part of Ktownescorts. The agency that started the up charge I think.I contacted the booker, no MSOG options on the current girls, even with uncharge.

Atrr1
09-05-21, 12:25
I contacted the booker, no MSOG options on the current girls, even with uncharge.Guess their girls are too special to take in more than one load, I rather go to another agency that lets me unload 3 x without surcharge.

Toungsten
09-05-21, 13:31
M. Nicole. (Viki returning Tuesday).

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/..........

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/..........

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/..........

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Nicole. (Viki returning Tuesday).

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung, Soyoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/........

JungleFun
09-05-21, 15:54
Guess their girls are too special to take in more than one load, I rather go to another agency that lets me unload 3 x without surcharge.Fuck this trend, fuck these gps booker. I'm boycotting any agency / girls that upcharge for every little thing. It's turning into Spirit Airline. Doesn't help too that there are old fat monger with money but can only go for one round supporting these stupid agency to keep this trend going. BOycott until this ridiculousness blows over.

Owliee
09-05-21, 21:21
Pics are completely fake aside from having tanned skin. Definitely on the thicker side if you're into it.

-Tattoos.

-Tanned.

-5'5 ish.

-Blonde.

-Tries hard with good service.

-Cute personality.

-Youngish? 25-30 ish. ?

Curious about SAG. Ria or Joa. Please let me know!

Sonicus
09-05-21, 23:52
Fuck this trend, fuck these gps booker. I'm boycotting any agency / girls that upcharge for every little thing. It's turning into Spirit Airline. Doesn't help too that there are old fat monger with money but can only go for one round supporting these stupid agency to keep this trend going. BOycott until this ridiculousness blows over.I'm with you brother I will never pay those ridiculous prices I just hope more fellow mongers will join us kinda like a union mongers united. Boycott! Boycott! We can do this together anything is possible to bring back the k-girl scene back to it's original glory of the legendary service and hotness of the former legends of the likes of Megan, Lohan, Rain, thick big tits big booty Anal Emma etc., and yes for the record Ktownescort started this whole 400+ upcharge BS.

DaSmith
09-06-21, 02:48
Pics are completely fake aside from having tanned skin. Definitely on the thicker side if you're into it.

-Tattoos.

-Tanned.

-5'5 ish.

-Blonde.

-Tries hard with good service.

-Cute personality.

-Youngish? 25-30 ish. ?

Curious about SAG. Ria or Joa. Please let me know!Ria is using pictures of Chinese model "Luna".

https://mrcong.com/mfstar-vol-141-nguoi-mau-luna-51-anh/

Joa is using pictures of Chinese model Lu Xuan Xuan.

https://mrcong.com/xiuren-no-2498-lu-xuan-xuan-83-anh/

Toungsten
09-06-21, 12:45
M. Nicole. (Viki returning Tuesday).

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/...........

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/...........

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/...........

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Nicole. (Viki returning Tuesday).

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung, Soyoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/.........

BuddhaHead
09-06-21, 13:19
I'm with you brother I will never pay those ridiculous prices I just hope more fellow mongers will join us kinda like a union mongers united. Boycott! Boycott! We can do this together anything is possible to bring back the k-girl scene back to it's original glory of the legendary service and hotness of the former legends of the likes of Megan, Lohan, Rain, thick big tits big booty Anal Emma etc., and yes for the record Ktownescort started this whole 400+ upcharge BS.Good luck with that. Boycotts don't work. Most guys who really want it will pay for it, because the little head supercedes. If the extras are the reason you see a girl, then self service is not an alternative, and it won't be long before the little head says he needs a fix.

Omfgitzjin
09-06-21, 14:25
Anyone seen jay 2 at 2 popshop? Her pics look familiar.

Kent747
09-06-21, 18:16
Good luck with that. Boycotts don't work. Most guys who really want it will pay for it, because the little head supercedes. If the extras are the reason you see a girl, then self service is not an alternative, and it won't be long before the little head says he needs a fix.Guys will not outright boycott rather cut back on number of sessions. A guy who used to hobby weekly at $250 each time will likely cut back to three times a month at $320 each time now.

Eddy68
09-06-21, 18:32
Guys will not outright boycott rather cut back on number of sessions. A guy who used to hobby weekly at $250 each time will likely cut back to three times a month at $320 each time now.I usually hit up 2 massage parlors and 2-3 times k spots BBFS a week.

Then my girlfriend yes. I got steady pussy at home but.

I do what I want and bare back my kchicks it's an.

Addiction that now that I have money I won't stop.

So boycott us useless because I will end up with a better spot time slot guys oops.

Toungsten
09-06-21, 21:56
Guys will not outright boycott rather cut back on number of sessions. A guy who used to hobby weekly at $250 each time will likely cut back to three times a month at $320 each time now.It's either cutting down on sessions or on time (1/2 hour sessions). Either way it cuts into the provider's income unless she can make up for it with new customers. What they get out of it is less work if that's what they want. I don't think that's what they're looking for based on the movement from booker to booker and city to city. If someone takes a noon half hour the next customer will probably at 1 and they lose a hallf hour's worth of income.

SuperMan333
09-06-21, 22:21
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HapaBoy86
09-06-21, 23:05
Fuck this trend, fuck these gps booker. I'm boycotting any agency / girls that upcharge for every little thing. It's turning into Spirit Airline. Doesn't help too that there are old fat monger with money but can only go for one round supporting these stupid agency to keep this trend going. Boycott until this ridiculousness blows over.100% agree Boycott will never work!

Cause as you mentioned the fat monger that smells like cookies got money and will still go. Just like Urkel looking dude with coke bottle eyeglasses, skinny and greasy hair looking dude got money, sloppy looking 50 and 60 yo got money doesn't care about boycotting.

I left the old KFC street location and as I was walking out of the front. Some 5'2 fat ass dude that was pushing 3 bills was standing there with a white envelope in back pocket and texting booker talking to himself ***** booker I'm here buzz me in. I had to laugh.

I feel sorry for that girl. Hubba Bubba going to get some.

PepsiLover
09-07-21, 01:50
Ria is using pictures of Chinese model "Luna".

https://mrcong.com/mfstar-vol-141-nguoi-mau-luna-51-anh/

Joa is using pictures of Chinese model Lu Xuan Xuan.

https://mrcong.com/xiuren-no-2498-lu-xuan-xuan-83-anh/Good work Detective Smith.

Sometimes you guys amaze me. Collectively, we have pretty decent resourceful community.

BonerAppetitty
09-07-21, 03:00
Not when I was trying to find new HYA girls and ran into Luv again. Both Luv and Joa had been around with other names and pics. Ria is a favorite but she prefers condom. You can PM me and I try to provide more details. My memory is pretty bad though.


Pics are completely fake aside from having tanned skin. Definitely on the thicker side if you're into it.

-Tattoos.

-Tanned.

-5'5 ish.

-Blonde.

-Tries hard with good service.

-Cute personality.

-Youngish? 25-30 ish. ?

Curious about SAG. Ria or Joa. Please let me know!

IAmGib1
09-07-21, 09:52
Pics are completely fake aside from having tanned skin. Definitely on the thicker side if you're into it.

-Tattoos.

-Tanned.

-5'5 ish.

-Blonde.

-Tries hard with good service.

-Cute personality.

-Youngish? 25-30 ish. ?

Curious about SAG. Ria or Joa. Please let me know!How thick is she? How does she compare to others you have seen?

IAmGib1
09-07-21, 10:00
Anyone have intel on Karen from candygirl /2 pop? Thinking about checking her out this weekend.I found her to be less than satisfying. Her body is dumpy, not firm or in good shape her face is average to below average and service was uninspired. I paid for 1 hr. But decided upon seeing her that I only wanted a BBBJ and she was mediocre at best for 5-10 minutes. Then complained her jaw hurt from too much BBJ I shortened my session to half hour and left.

Perhaps your taste is different than mine and YMMV. Try and let us all know what you think.

LegendKilla
09-07-21, 10:30
100% agree Boycott will never work!

Cause as you mentioned the fat monger that smells like cookies got money and will still go. Just like Urkel looking dude with coke bottle eyeglasses, skinny and greasy hair looking dude got money, sloppy looking 50 and 60 yo got money doesn't care about boycotting.

I left the old KFC street location and as I was walking out of the front. Some 5'2 fat ass dude that was pushing 3 bills was standing there with a white envelope in back pocket and texting booker talking to himself ***** booker I'm here buzz me in. I had to laugh.

I feel sorry for that girl. Hubba Bubba going to get some.This is gold. Prior to working remote I used ro drive past west LA location and you will always see a midget fat monger just standing around waiting for that text.

Toungsten
09-07-21, 16:03
M. Nicole, Allie. (Viki returning next week).

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/............

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/............

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/............

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana, Nina, Nicole. (Viki returning next week).

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung, Soyoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/..........

Eddy68
09-07-21, 16:59
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TheAbc
09-07-21, 18:16
This is gold. Prior to working remote I used ro drive past west LA location and you will always see a midget fat monger just standing around waiting for that text.In all my years, the times I've possibly ran into a possible or confirmed client was just a handful of times. A few times the timing was off and I saw someone leave the apt I was going into. I've seen a few guys outside the apt, but nothing obvious or conspicuous enough for me to think they are a customer. A few other times I heard another customer with the other girl in the apt but that's it. When are you guys going to see these creatures?

Ghost626
09-07-21, 19:11
In all my years, the times I've possibly ran into a possible or confirmed client was just a handful of times. A few times the timing was off and I saw someone leave the apt I was going into. I've seen a few guys outside the apt, but nothing obvious or conspicuous enough for me to think they are a customer. A few other times I heard another customer with the other girl in the apt but that's it. When are you guys going to see these creatures?Fucking hell. One time I order for double session at the palace, saw a half nake client coming out from my session room to Becky room were he suppose be at in the beginning. Pepsi came over from another building room to apologize. Wish she stayed for foursome!

GoldDust58
09-07-21, 19:20
In all my years, the times I've possibly ran into a possible or confirmed client was just a handful of times. A few times the timing was off and I saw someone leave the apt I was going into. I've seen a few guys outside the apt, but nothing obvious or conspicuous enough for me to think they are a customer. A few other times I heard another customer with the other girl in the apt but that's it. When are you guys going to see these creatures?Many mongers get to the appt early and stake out. I used to whip around the block for back page and Corgs in NorCal to just make sure there wasn't funny business or a black van waiting for me LOL. I trust korgs enough that I don't get there early anymore but many guys do. You can see them sitting in their cars staring at their phones or scrolling through websites. Once a monger you notice fellow mongers by their behavior.

Some advice to those who are not pros. Memorize the code, room, and directions. No flowers, candy and stuffed animals. If anything just bring food and you'll blend in with delivery workers. Don't stare at your phone at the call box. Dumb and not discreet unless a delivery person. I know some booker will tell you to memorize their text before getting out of the car. One more thing, don't sit on the damn bench and wait for your appointment in WLA. I see guys there all the time or standing around by the codebox. Some privacy please, wait in your damn car. Maintenance people can be nosy too so best to not be hanging around the door.

Ovrbst277
09-07-21, 20:08
Nope, got to see her one time. Super sweet and attractive. But now she is on long Vacation.Jenny at SA is back.

Good value at current rate.

Ramen25
09-07-21, 21:23
Many mongers get to the appt early and stake out. I used to whip around the block for back page and Corgs in NorCal to just make sure there wasn't funny business or a black van waiting for me LOL. I trust korgs enough that I don't get there early anymore but many guys do. You can see them sitting in their cars staring at their phones or scrolling through websites. Once a monger you notice fellow mongers by their behavior.

Some advice to those who are not pros. Memorize the code, room, and directions. No flowers, candy and stuffed animals. If anything just bring food and you'll blend in with delivery workers. Don't stare at your phone at the call box. Dumb and not discreet unless a delivery person. I know some booker will tell you to memorize their text before getting out of the car. One more thing, don't sit on the damn bench and wait for your appointment in WLA. I see guys there all the time or standing around by the codebox. Some privacy please, wait in your damn car. Maintenance people can be nosy too so best to not be hanging around the door.Agree don't loiter around the callbox. If you're unlucky enough to encounter him, you'll run into the SOB ass-hat security guard at one of the known K-town locations and he'll start asking you questions about who you are trying to see / contact. Best to just not loiter around and avoid these situations all together.

GoofyPanda
09-07-21, 21:49
Jenny at SA is back.

Good value at current rate.Need to know if she gained weight again.

Cream Inside
09-07-21, 22:24
100% agree Boycott will never work!

Cause as you mentioned the fat monger that smells like cookies got money and will still go. Just like Urkel looking dude with coke bottle eyeglasses, skinny and greasy hair looking dude got money, sloppy looking 50 and 60 yo got money doesn't care about boycotting.

I left the old KFC street location and as I was walking out of the front. Some 5'2 fat ass dude that was pushing 3 bills was standing there with a white envelope in back pocket and texting booker talking to himself ***** booker I'm here buzz me in. I had to laugh.

I feel sorry for that girl. Hubba Bubba going to get some.Personally, I don't mind all these guys boycotting. It just means that it will be easier to get the time slots I want. I stopped seeing Hana and Pink because I can never get a time slot that I want on short notice. Much easier with the upsell girls. These guys are going to sit at home crying about the prices while everyone else is getting action and the prices will continue to move without them anyways.

Cream Inside
09-07-21, 22:24
Need to know if she gained weight again.Still has that pooch.

Fat Jerk76
09-07-21, 23:51
No flowers, candy and stuffed animals. If anything just bring food and you'll blend in with delivery.I often think of the sad sack I passed in the hallway. He was carrying a lovely bouquet of flowers to hand deliver to the girl who moments earlier was receiving back-to-back cream deposits from yours truly.

Nice flowers.

HapaBoy86
09-08-21, 03:03
You can see them sitting in their cars staring at their phonesr.Speaking of sitting in cars. I'm on the westside a lot early in the morning and I always drive on the street where the old KFC used to be. So, anytime after 4 pm on both sides from the old kfc to the first and 2nd stop light parking is pretty much full.

Well, after 8 am it's "empty" on both sides from old kfc to 1st stop light.

As I drive south I see cars on both sides with dudes sitting in there cars waiting for there text from booker (s). It so funny.

Usually after 1 or 2 hrs I drive back north on that street and those same cars are gone. But with another few dudes sitting in there cars waiting.

Humyiy
09-08-21, 04:43
Fuck this trend, fuck these gps booker. I'm boycotting any agency / girls that upcharge for every little thing. It's turning into Spirit Airline. Doesn't help too that there are old fat monger with money but can only go for one round supporting these stupid agency to keep this trend going. BOycott until this ridiculousness blows over.https://rentry.co/la_bbfs

Only go to the non upcharge places listed here.

Go hard for 30 minutes sessions it' like buy 10 get 2 free.

NObserver
09-08-21, 09:52
Personally, I don't mind all these guys boycotting. It just means that it will be easier to get the time slots I want.
The very nice woman who now operates the M phone number (she's fantastic) texted me before 10 am yesterday (Monday morning) that Allie and Nicole were available for 320 and 300, respectively.

I was able to see both of them, pretty much back to back, at my desired time block.

I absolutely believe that the low demand is actually connected to unemployment insurance drying up for good this past week. If it had continued until the end of the year, demand for these women would still be high -- even with the price increase.

Don't get me wrong, Allie and Nicole are old news at this point and might be too old for the young barebacking baller, but they each still offer good service and CIP x 2 for the cost of a higher priced traditional date with an average woman (arrogant, overweight, not DTF, no CIP, etc).

Still, 320 and 300 for 50 minutes of barebacking is a rip-off in the grand scheme of things, but I love tiny women, small pussy, big tits and finishing inside them.

That's exactly what you're getting when you see Allie and Nicole, even at their new high rate and advanced age.

HexenDuction
09-08-21, 11:57
Whatever gets you through the night.

It's all right, it's all right.

It's your money or your life.

It's all right, it's all right.

Don't need a sword to cut through' flowers.

Oh no, oh no.

Whatever gets you through your life.

It's all right, it's all right.

Do it wrong, or do it right.

It's all right, it's all right.

Don't need a watch to waste your time.

Oh no, oh no.

Hold me, darlin', come on, listen to me.

I won't do you no harm.

Trust me, darlin', come on, listen to me.

Come on, listen to me; come on, listen, listen.

Whatever gets you to the light.

It's all right, it's all right.

Out of the blue, or out of sight.

It's all right, it's all right.

Don't need a gun to blow you mind.

Oh no, oh no.

Hold me, darlin', come on, listen to me.

I won't do you no harm.

Trust me, darlin', come on, listen to me.

Come on, listen to me, come on, listen, listen.

Elton John.


I often think of the sad sack I passed in the hallway. He was carrying a lovely bouquet of flowers to hand deliver to the girl who moments earlier was receiving back-to-back cream deposits from yours truly.

Nice flowers.

GoofyPanda
09-08-21, 12:16
What does it mean when someone used to offer BB but all of sudden stop offering?

Are they tested positive for something or are they afraid they will catch something?

Humyiy
09-08-21, 12:28
In all my years, the times I've possibly ran into a possible or confirmed client was just a handful of times. A few times the timing was off and I saw someone leave the apt I was going into. I've seen a few guys outside the apt, but nothing obvious or conspicuous enough for me to think they are a customer. A few other times I heard another customer with the other girl in the apt but that's it. When are you guys going to see these creatures?Lately, bookers and girls are getting sloppy or are unaware. Yesterday, as I was leaving, the roommate was also bringing her client out and we stood there for 5 seconds staring at each other. I thought on "I think that guy used to work in my building". Then they ran back into their room and I left.

Humyiy
09-08-21, 12:38
What does it mean when someone used to offer BB but all of sudden stop offering?

Are they tested positive for something or are they afraid they will catch something?Impossible to speculate correctly.

I think there's a 64% chance it means she's tired of taking 6 creampies every day, day after day.

Or 17% chance she heard a friend got something and she wants to minimize her risks.

Even if you ask and she gives a reason, it might not be the real reason.

So many non upcharge girls right now. Best to go bone 3 others.

Check out the fantastic list our fellow banger made.

Rdyn Nvu
09-08-21, 13:55
Good info, thanks!

Would love to see OC ones.


https://rentry.co/la_bbfs

Only go to the non upcharge places listed here.

Go hard for 30 minutes sessions it' like buy 10 get 2 free.

GoldDust58
09-08-21, 14:15
What does it mean when someone used to offer BB but all of sudden stop offering?

Are they tested positive for something or are they afraid they will catch something?How long has she been offering bb? If only for a short period of time then likely she caught something and got scared. Many girls who first arrive and offer bb will sometimes stop if they catch somethings. Not always and depends on the org they work at.

Another reason is potentially a boyfriend. Either new SO or long term who isn't happy to see reviews saying she offers bb service.

Usually girls who stop suddenly will UTR continue to offer to their regular guys.

TheAbc
09-08-21, 14:54
How long has she been offering bb? If only for a short period of time then likely she caught something and got scared. Many girls who first arrive and offer bb will sometimes stop if they catch somethings. Not always and depends on the org they work at.

Another reason is potentially a boyfriend. Either new SO or long term who isn't happy to see reviews saying she offers bb service.

Usually girls who stop suddenly will UTR continue to offer to their regular guys.I never understood about guys hooking up in a real relationship with one of these girls. Is there something I am missing? I don't get the appeal of my woman taking in random dicks on a regular basis.

Ramen25
09-08-21, 15:03
I never understood about guys hooking up in a real relationship with one of these girls. Is there something I am missing? I don't get the appeal of my woman taking in random dicks on a regular basis.Maybe they do like the idea of their woman being sausage-fested everyday and sloppy seconds etc sort of like those swinger type people. (I don't get the appeal either).

GoldDust58
09-08-21, 15:34
Maybe they do like the idea of their woman being sausage-fested everyday and sloppy seconds etc sort of like those swinger type people. (I don't get the appeal either).Don't forget that while you may be a normal dude, there are others with all kinds of issues. This is a industry of fantasy and addicts to that fantasy. Some guys get off by just giving them money, the daddy fantasy. Just think about all the crazy fantasies a guy would want to fulfill. Some guys might get off on watching their girl get gang banged. There are many vids out there in that genre.

Toungsten
09-08-21, 15:37
Maybe they do like the idea of their woman being sausage-fested everyday and sloppy seconds etc sort of like those swinger type people. (I don't get the appeal either).I've seen it a number of times over the years. What the monger wants is free pussy while enjoying the cash that the live in girl spends on him as they usually continue paying for new pussy elsewhere. Eventually they get busted for still looking for new pussy and the free days come to an end. For those who stick with one provider as his one and only it's a matter of self respect or the lack thereof.

Toungsten
09-08-21, 16:38
M. Nicole, Allie. (Viki returning next week).

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/.............

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/.............

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/............ Jenny.

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana, Nina, Nicole. (Viki returning next week).

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung, Soyoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/...........

Slim129
09-08-21, 16:58
I often think of the sad sack I passed in the hallway. He was carrying a lovely bouquet of flowers to hand deliver to the girl who moments earlier was receiving back-to-back cream deposits from yours truly.

Nice flowers.I think sometimes guys do it to get better service. It's a small price to pay for better service. I'm not saying I do that, but I'd imagine that some will do it for that reason.

Ghost626
09-08-21, 17:58
Lately, bookers and girls are getting sloppy or are unaware. Yesterday, as I was leaving, the roommate was also bringing her client out and we stood there for 5 seconds staring at each other. I thought on "I think that guy used to work in my building". Then they ran back into their room and I left.One time Viki's client was about to head out, they close the entrance door after they saw me waiting for Allie to welcome me in but viki didn't take her client back to room, she just open the entrance door again and let the dude out while I was still outside lol

HobbyRusty
09-08-21, 18:52
One time Viki's client was about to head out, they close the entrance door after they saw me waiting for Allie to welcome me in but viki didn't take her client back to room, she just open the entrance door again and let the dude out while I was still outside lolIf you had said Nicole then I believe that was me. No communication. Viki was leading me out while Nicole was waiting in front of her room, waved at her. When I go out the front door there is a guy coming in.

RocketManP
09-08-21, 19:13
Hey folks,

Does anyone remember hanging with that girl?

Was she a tiny 5'0 spinner?

Much appreciated if you have any info and any memories of her. We have a Lily here in the bay that I think might be her. Advertised as a tiny spinner, no BBFS, and offering rimming. If it rings a bell to anyone please lmk.

Thanks in advance!

JustALil
09-08-21, 20:05
If you had to choose between Allie or Nicole, which one and why? I'm looking to set up a meet next week. Any feedback appreciated Thanks.


The very nice woman who now operates the M phone number (she's fantastic) texted me before 10 am yesterday (Monday morning) that Allie and Nicole were available for 320 and 300, respectively.

I was able to see both of them, pretty much back to back, at my desired time block.

I absolutely believe that the low demand is actually connected to unemployment insurance drying up for good this past week. If it had continued until the end of the year, demand for these women would still be high -- even with the price increase.

Don't get me wrong, Allie and Nicole are old news at this point and might be too old for the young barebacking baller, but they each still offer good service and CIP x 2 for the cost of a higher priced traditional date with an average woman (arrogant, overweight, not DTF, no CIP, etc).

Still, 320 and 300 for 50 minutes of barebacking is a rip-off in the grand scheme of things, but I love tiny women, small pussy, big tits and finishing inside them.

That's exactly what you're getting when you see Allie and Nicole, even at their new high rate and advanced age.

GoofyPanda
09-08-21, 20:27
Still has that pooch.I know some of you doesn't mind that. And I know she has great service. But that's a big turn off for me.

GoofyPanda
09-08-21, 20:44
Impossible to speculate correctly.

I think there's a 64% chance it means she's tired of taking 6 creampies every day, day after day.

Or 17% chance she heard a friend got something and she wants to minimize her risks.

Even if you ask and she gives a reason, it might not be the real reason.

So many non upcharge girls right now. Best to go bone 3 others.

Check out the fantastic list our fellow banger made.


How long has she been offering bb? If only for a short period of time then likely she caught something and got scared. Many girls who first arrive and offer bb will sometimes stop if they catch somethings. Not always and depends on the org they work at.

Another reason is potentially a boyfriend. Either new SO or long term who isn't happy to see reviews saying she offers bb service.

Usually girls who stop suddenly will UTR continue to offer to their regular guys.You guys are right on point.

Well today I found out from her friend that she caught something a while ago. Nothing serious and she is fine now.

Alex60
09-08-21, 21:15
Whatever gets you through the night.

It's all right, it's all right.

It's your money or your life.

It's all right, it's all right.

Don't need a sword to cut through' flowers.

Oh no, oh no.

Whatever gets you through your life.

It's all right, it's all right.

Do it wrong, or do it right.

It's all right, it's all right.

Don't need a watch to waste your time.

Oh no, oh no.

Hold me, darlin', come on, listen to me.

I won't do you no harm.

Trust me, darlin', come on, listen to me.

Come on, listen to me; come on, listen, listen.

Whatever gets you to the light.

It's all right, it's all right.

Out of the blue, or out of sight.

It's all right, it's all right.

Don't need a gun to blow you mind.

Oh no, oh no.

Hold me, darlin', come on, listen to me.

I won't do you no harm.

Trust me, darlin', come on, listen to me.

Come on, listen to me, come on, listen, listen.

Elton John.That song was written by John Lennon.

GG1234
09-08-21, 21:32
https://rentry.co/la_bbfs

Only go to the non upcharge places listed here.

Go hard for 30 minutes sessions it' like buy 10 get 2 free.


Good info, thanks!

Would love to see OC ones.I'm glad people are getting good use out of the la_bbfs (https://rentry.co/la_bbfs) list. These days, it overlaps a lot with Toungsten's daily updates, but there is still info that's unique to both.

Unfortunately, I'm not that familiar with the OC K-girl scene, so someone else will have to compile a list of OC K-girl agencies who provide BBFS with no upcharge. However, skimming through the OC ➡ Korean Agency BB (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB) thread, the pickings look slim. I see a lot of upcharging.

Ramen25
09-08-21, 21:49
I'm glad people are getting good use out of the la_bbfs (https://rentry.co/la_bbfs) list. These days, it overlaps a lot with Toungsten's daily updates, but there is still info that's unique to both.

Unfortunately, I'm not that familiar with the OC K-girl scene, so someone else will have to compile a list of OC K-girl agencies who provide BBFS with no upcharge. However, skimming through the OC ➡ Korean Agency BB (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?31130-Korean-Agency-BB) thread, the pickings look slim. I see a lot of upcharging.Non-upcharge is pretty much non-existent down in OC. Sadly quite apparent now by the lack of updates in the OC Korean BB thread. Dahee was the closest to non-upcharge (I believe she was 260 + 40 for bb before) but now even she's part of the stupid upcharge gang. The only thing good about OC is that they do get a few CFS HYAG's from time to time.

HexenDuction
09-09-21, 00:32
Fucked by the internet again!


That song was written by John Lennon.

SsStuntCock
09-09-21, 01:08
Non-upcharge is pretty much non-existent down in OC. Sadly quite apparent now by the lack of updates in the OC Korean BB thread. Dahee was the closest to non-upcharge (I believe she was 260 + 40 for bb before) but now even she's part of the stupid upcharge gang. The only thing good about OC is that they do get a few CFS HYAG's from time to time.Speaking of non-upcharge bb OC orgs, whatever happened to fruitkcup / fruitkstand? Not the hottest / youngest, but ezcip was the draw.

BonerAppetitty
09-09-21, 02:13
I treat MSOG and CIP as a YMMV thing so I didn't pay attention to menu. I didn't pay any upcharge with Suzi either. I still had the best time in the past few weeks.

Suzi was shuddering over and over again with my pounding her made me want to pound longer. There were queefings between positions. Too good to cum early.

I support you guys boycotting but how can I boycott a girl who looks like this: (click here) (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=5524436&viewfull=1#post5524436)

I already boycott upcharge MILFs but I want to spend all money on young honeys.


Yo Boner.

Booker / site doesn't mention MSOG? I would try if MSOG offered, but CIP is a no so I have stayed away.

HapaBoy86
09-09-21, 03:01
I will gladly boycott if you guys can tell me a new upcharge girl is an MILF before I TOFTT.Boycotting never Works!

Im Yours
09-09-21, 03:14
Need to know if she gained weight again.She most definitely did, but it stuck on her fairly well. There's def some extra heft. Perhaps a little decline in stamina as well.

IAmGib1
09-09-21, 09:35
Agree don't loiter around the callbox. If you're unlucky enough to encounter him, you'll run into the SOB ass-hat security guard at one of the known K-town locations and he'll start asking you questions about who you are trying to see / contact. Best to just not loiter around and avoid these situations all together.Solid advice.

Cream Inside
09-09-21, 10:44
Just finished a 30-min BBFS session with Adela. Overall, very enjoyable.

L: Pretty and very cute face, short hair. She's not tall but not real short either, height about the same as Viki (maybe slightly taller), taller than Nicole, listed as 5'2 on Candygirl website. Nice slender and proportional body, nice sized fake tits, has a tattoo on her left abdomen, nice round ass esp. when she's giving me a BBBJ squatting in front of the mirror or being doggied.

A: Very friendly. Gave me a hug at the door and at end of session to make me feel welcome.

S: Typical, decent service. BBBJ good, no teeth, good suction but not as vacuum-suction tight as Viki's BBBJ. Good kissing but not 100% dfk, rode me CG hard and grinded me hard I mean real hard. Good moaning at times.

R: Yes, I would repeat. Damage $2.6Was she CIP or cum dodger "cum outside honey" type of girl? Pics are fake right?

GoldDust58
09-09-21, 11:19
Was she CIP or cum dodger "cum outside honey" type of girl? Pics are fake right?Yes she is CIP. She is former Tia of NorCal. In LA she was recently Elena at Keikoagency. Search for Elena and you'll find her body selfie posted. She has a tattoo with allah on her arm. Her pics as Adela are fake.

Have a backup plan when booking. She is often off or will take off suddenly and cancel. Worth a visit if you can catch her working.

Jack926
09-09-21, 11:19
Speaking of hot spinner with a great body, I guess nobody here wanted to review a girl who upcharged. Ktownkgirlz Suzi is hotter and younger than many girls mentioned here.What is the website?

GG1234
09-09-21, 11:37
Yes she is CIP. She is former Tia of NorCal. In LA she was recently Elena at Keikoagency. Search for Elena and you'll find her body selfie posted. She has a tattoo with allah on her arm. Her pics as Adela are fake.

Have a backup plan when booking. She is often off or will take off suddenly and cancel. Worth a visit if you can catch her working.For reference, I found these posts that contained pics of Adela/Tia/Elena.

#22496 (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=5507038&viewfull=1#post5507038)

#22269 (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?26373-Korean-Agency-BB&p=5490580&viewfull=1#post5490580)

https://switter.at/@Loveangels/102798933208095007 (higher res Tia pic).

Adela @ CandyGirlLA (https://www.candygirlla.com/%ED%95%91%ED%81%AC)

Canon88
09-09-21, 11:46
If you had said Nicole then I believe that was me. No communication. Viki was leading me out while Nicole was waiting in front of her room, waved at her. When I go out the front door there is a guy coming in.In my 15+ years of mongering this has never happened to me. And if it did, I would immediately let the booker know. That can never happen!

I hope you all mentioned it to the booker to make sure they correct it moving forward.

Toungsten
09-09-21, 13:01
M. Nicole, Allie. (Viki returning next week).

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/..............

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/..............

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/............ Jenny.

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana, Nina. (Viki returning next week).

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji, Saki.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung, Soyoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/............

Ramen25
09-09-21, 13:45
Speaking of non-upcharge bb OC orgs, whatever happened to fruitkcup / fruitkstand? Not the hottest / youngest, but ezcip was the draw.I recall seeing their HX ads early last year they must have disappeared / dissolved or is now Chuck Norris MIA.

Veni1
09-09-21, 17:09
If you had to choose between Allie or Nicole, which one and why? I'm looking to set up a meet next week. Any feedback appreciated Thanks.I have seen them both and I personally prefer Allie. Nicole is a bit more slender and is more subdued than Allie, but they offer basically the same services. However, Allie's BBBJ is wild, basically one of the best (if not the best) that I have experienced in my years of hobbying. Nicole's, while good is not up to Allie's. For me, that's the separating factor. Naturally, what's most important to me may not be the same as that for someone else.

GG1234
09-09-21, 19:25
What is the website?Suzi - https://ktownkgirlz.com/home?product_id=462.

5'2" / 95 lbs / C-cup.

Member #2210
09-09-21, 19:41
Was she CIP or cum dodger "cum outside honey" type of girl? Pics are fake right?CIP. No dodging. Can't really tell if pics are fake since her face is covered in the pics. But her body is as I described. No complaint from me, but I won't repeat because $2.6 for hhr bb is kind of expensive compared to girls at SA or SFG.

Ghost626
09-09-21, 19:41
If you had said Nicole then I believe that was me. No communication. Viki was leading me out while Nicole was waiting in front of her room, waved at her. When I go out the front door there is a guy coming in.I haven't seen nicole yet. It happen last year.

EasyPeasyDong
09-09-21, 20:30
In my 15+ years of mongering this has never happened to me. And if it did, I would immediately let the booker know. That can never happen!

I hope you all mentioned it to the booker to make sure they correct it moving forward.100% agree. I don't want anyone recognizing me.

Cream Inside
09-09-21, 21:56
Suzi - https://ktownkgirlz.com/home?product_id=462.

5'2" / 95 lbs / C-cup.Aren't they affiliated with ktownescort, known for using fake pics? If those pics real then she would be considered a must see.

The Sexorcist
09-09-21, 21:57
Pepsi is now 350. God that hurts.

GG1234
09-09-21, 23:05
Aren't they affiliated with ktownescort, known for using fake pics? If those pics real then she would be considered a must see.I haven't seen her, so I don't know. However, Boner first said fake but pretty (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=5524436&viewfull=1#post5524436). But then he second guessed himself and said the beach pics might be real. Also, reverse image search doesn't bring up anything.

Humyiy
09-09-21, 23:55
Why? Why does this girl have no reviews, no info anywhere? If there is some secret club where guys are hiding the top tier girls, somebody better invite me in. Because I'm about to drop all the wisdom.

Rose looks almost nothing like the photos. Maybe 10% similar. That girl looks sexy too. Reddish hair, nice rack decent face, some curves etc.

But wow this girl was gorgeous. Looks like a 23 yo Korean Juliette Lewis with perfect natural puffy eraser nips with that youthful upslope. And that ass! Not only magnum approved but she wanted more more more. Somebody with a bigger dong than me needs to go pound her out. Incredible.

Oh and she has that super wetness onl a 20 something has.

Tony1628
09-10-21, 01:16
I haven't seen her, so I don't know. However, Boner first said fake but pretty (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=5524436&viewfull=1#post5524436). But then he second guessed himself and said the beach pics might be real. Also, reverse image search doesn't bring up anything.Definitely fake pics but the girl is hot. Great service and very chill attitude.

Cream Inside
09-10-21, 03:17
I haven't seen her, so I don't know. However, Boner first said fake but pretty (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=5524436&viewfull=1#post5524436). But then he second guessed himself and said the beach pics might be real. Also, reverse image search doesn't bring up anything.More likely it's fake, KTE is known for blatantly using fake pics. Never trust that org.

JustALil
09-10-21, 08:01
Thanks for the info. There nothing like a good blow.


I have seen them both and I personally prefer Allie. Nicole is a bit more slender and is more subdued than Allie, but they offer basically the same services. However, Allie's BBBJ is wild, basically one of the best (if not the best) that I have experienced in my years of hobbying. Nicole's, while good is not up to Allie's. For me, that's the separating factor. Naturally, what's most important to me may not be the same as that for someone else.

NObserver
09-10-21, 09:29
Why? Why does this girl have no reviews, no info anywhere? If there is some secret club where guys are hiding the top tier girls, somebody better invite me in. Because I'm about to drop all the wisdom.

Rose looks almost nothing like the photos. Maybe 10% similar. That girl looks sexy too. Reddish hair, nice rack decent face, some curves etc.

But wow this girl was gorgeous. Looks like a 23 yo Korean Juliette Lewis with perfect natural puffy eraser nips with that youthful upslope. And that ass! Not only magnum approved but she wanted more more more. Somebody with a bigger dong than me needs to go pound her out. Incredible.

Oh and she has that super wetness onl a 20 something has.Thanks a lot for the intel! Going to see if she's available today.

How's her sass level? Does she get into the session or is she counting the minutes in her head until you're out of there?

Ramen25
09-10-21, 10:34
Pepsi is now 350. God that hurts.Double-you. Aitch. Wai.

MrGeorge
09-10-21, 13:11
Sounds pretty good. Was bare included with the 300 listed on the site?


Why? Why does this girl have no reviews, no info anywhere? If there is some secret club where guys are hiding the top tier girls, somebody better invite me in. Because I'm about to drop all the wisdom.

Rose looks almost nothing like the photos. Maybe 10% similar. That girl looks sexy too. Reddish hair, nice rack decent face, some curves etc.

But wow this girl was gorgeous. Looks like a 23 yo Korean Juliette Lewis with perfect natural puffy eraser nips with that youthful upslope. And that ass! Not only magnum approved but she wanted more more more. Somebody with a bigger dong than me needs to go pound her out. Incredible.

Oh and she has that super wetness onl a 20 something has.

Toungsten
09-10-21, 15:55
Sounds pretty good. Was bare included with the 300 listed on the site?Sorry to inform you guys but Rose does not exist. Straight from the horses mouth. Only Jenny is available of the Sexy Angels girls right now.

Toungsten
09-10-21, 15:58
M. Nicole, Allie. (Viki returning next week).

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/.

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/...............

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/ Jenny.

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana, Nixole. (Viki returning next week).

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/.............

GoofyPanda
09-10-21, 17:01
Why? Why does this girl have no reviews, no info anywhere? If there is some secret club where guys are hiding the top tier girls, somebody better invite me in. Because I'm about to drop all the wisdom.

Rose looks almost nothing like the photos. Maybe 10% similar. That girl looks sexy too. Reddish hair, nice rack decent face, some curves etc.

But wow this girl was gorgeous. Looks like a 23 yo Korean Juliette Lewis with perfect natural puffy eraser nips with that youthful upslope. And that ass! Not only magnum approved but she wanted more more more. Somebody with a bigger dong than me needs to go pound her out. Incredible.

Oh and she has that super wetness onl a 20 something has.She BB or not? If so, how much up charge?

BuddhaHead
09-10-21, 17:45
I haven't seen her, so I don't know. However, Boner first said fake but pretty (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=5524436&viewfull=1#post5524436). But then he second guessed himself and said the beach pics might be real. Also, reverse image search doesn't bring up anything.I don't trust what anyone says about how a girl looks compared to her pictures. Why? Because.

1. Most guys cannot seem to tell whether someone looks like their pictures or not (e. G. , guys swear that fake pictures of Korean models are "real".

2. Most guys word descriptions are totally useless - "pictures are representative", "they're her, but heavily photo shopped", "90% looks like her", "not skinny, but not fat", "typical Korean look".

3. As we all agree, looks are subjective, so, of what use is it when someone has a "big ass" preference, or "big boob" preference, or "MILF" preference, and gives them high ratings, and you have a different preference?

4. Hobbyists seem to rate girls based on other Kgirls they've seen (which may be limited). I see so many girls rated as "model material", who are average looking when compared with real models. If you've only seen 5 Kgirls (who are all average looking MILFs), then you might rate an average looking 20-something as an 8 or 9. They may be "cute" or may be your preference, or the best looking you've seen in the hobby, but that doesn't make them "model material" to the discriminating guy.

5. Hobbyists seem to bias their looks opinion based on their (PSE) service, and vice versa. Someone doesn't become better looking just because they do BBFS.

I've spent a lot chasing the latest "hot" girls, and only a small percentage turned out to be truly hot.

So, I am cautious about trying out the latest and greatest, but sometimes will have to TOFMT (Take One for My Team) even if others have tried.

Ghost626
09-10-21, 17:55
Pepsi is now 350. God that hurts. i enjoy Dana service more than pepsi right now.

PlutoKiller
09-10-21, 23:38
I don't trust what anyone says about how a girl looks compared to her pictures. Why? Because.

1. Most guys cannot seem to tell whether someone looks like their pictures or not (e. G. , guys swear that fake pictures of Korean models are "real".

2. Most guys word descriptions are totally useless - "pictures are representative", "they're her, but heavily photo shopped", "90% looks like her", "not skinny, but not fat", "typical Korean look".

3. As we all agree, looks are subjective, so, of what use is it when someone has a "big ass" preference, or "big boob" preference, or "MILF" preference, and gives them high ratings, and you have a different preference?

4. Hobbyists seem to rate girls based on other Kgirls they've seen (which may be limited). I see so many girls rated as "model material", who are average looking when compared with real models. If you've only seen 5 Kgirls (who are all average looking MILFs), then you might rate an average looking 20-something as an 8 or 9. They may be "cute" or may be your preference, or the best looking you've seen in the hobby, but that doesn't make them "model material" to the discriminating guy.

5. Hobbyists seem to bias their looks opinion based on their (PSE) service, and vice versa. Someone doesn't become better looking just because they do BBFS.

I've spent a lot chasing the latest "hot" girls, and only a small percentage turned out to be truly hot.

So, I am cautious about trying out the latest and greatest, but sometimes will have to TOFMT (Take One for My Team) even if others have tried.Very well said. I agree 100%.

Cream Inside
09-11-21, 00:02
Definitely fake pics but the girl is hot. Great service and very chill attitude.Imagine you go to a restaurant and order a steak and then they bring you a salad. You tell them this isn't what I ordered and they say "yes but the salad is really really good!

PepsiLover
09-11-21, 00:15
Pepsi is now 350. God that hurts.Goodbye Pepsi.

BuddhaHead
09-11-21, 00:17
Imagine you go to a restaurant and order a steak and then they bring you a salad. You tell them this isn't what I ordered and they say "yes but the salad is really really good!Bad analogy. Also, the jury is out as to whether her pics are real (see my post below). So, if your expectations are that you will see exactly the girl in the pics (how often does that happen?) then that's an issue with your expectations. If you are just looking for a hot girl and a good experience, then your expectations will have been met.

Jack926
09-11-21, 01:49
Imagine you go to a restaurant and order a steak and then they bring you a salad. You tell them this isn't what I ordered and they say "yes but the salad is really really good!Not surprised at all. I figured that it is TGTBT an I have burned twice on a hype before.

Humyiy
09-11-21, 02:40
Sorry to inform you guys but Rose does not exist. Straight from the horses mouth. Only Jenny is available of the Sexy Angels girls right now.Days.

So then when I texted "Is Rose available?" the booker saying yes then just sends me to Jenny. Sounds about right these days.

I have never seen Jenny so I don't know. All I do know is that the girl I saw was young hot kinda thick, with a pretty face and perfect tits.

Only downside was a slight stank breath and slightly odd looking teeth, maybe those veneers that always look like horse teeth to me.

I just stared at those natural C bombs bouncing the whole time.

Yes you can glaze her pink for 300.

And at 10 am, next available was 7 pm.

And she said she's busy. I believe her.

Paul Sgv
09-11-21, 08:17
Pepsi is now 350. God that hurts.To be quite honest, from my perspective at least Pepsi kinda checked out along time ago. The last time I saw her was in May of last year during that hectic time when the Palace was giving surprise foursomes to some lucky bastards out there. For the first time since I've been seeing Pepsi, she failed to please me and she always knew how to drain me dry.

In the last couple of years, she always seemed to be completely disinterested in giving any sex whenever I would show up and normally she would be energetic, filthy and enthusiastic. She likely just doesn't want to see too many guys anymore. You have to keep in mind that she has been doing this for probably 11 years now. Can you imagine how many dicks she's taken? Raw?

Currently, mistress x is the one who does it for me. She still has the passion and the technique that I crave. Even at that, X is starting to show signs of burnout and her enthusiasm is starting to wane ever so slightly.

All I can do is just look back on those mind-blowing memories when Pepsi gave it her all. In 2017 I got to enjoy a threesome with Pepsi and her then protégé, Namu. This was at the apartments closer to Beverly Hills.

Namu let me in and we had to traverse a very narrow and very steep staircase at this two-story condo inside the building. As Namu let me in and during the shower, I kept scanning the room looking for Pepsi but she was nowhere to be found. Namu saw me looking around and she automatically knew I was looking for the veteran K girl.

After we dried ourselves off, we entered the bedroom where, lo and behold, Pepsi was sitting casually and sexily on a chair near the bedroom door with her legs crossed, rocking her top leg almost as if she were calling me to her and then I excitedly shouted "long time no see!

The next hour was a mindbending experience: Lots of making out between me and Pepsi, me and Namu, Namu and Pepsi. Double blowjobs, eating out Namu. Pepsi sucking on Namu's tits while Namu rode me like a jackhammer. Occasionally they would stop and, in Korean, Pepsi would provide some pointers to Namu on how to fuck like a pro.

The last 10 or 15 minutes of the session, Pepsi hopped on cowgirl and we decided to fuck each other nonstop and as hard as possible while Namu laid next to me and vigorously masturbating herself. I had been holding in that load for about three weeks and it was one of the most explosive releases I had. Shocked and feeling left out, Namu exclaimed "what about me? What about me? To which Pepsi replied in her thick accent "oh, so sorry. So sorry, baby."

Namu finished masturbating herself and boy, did she get wet. She lifted up her fingers which were absolutely soaked, literally dripping wet and she proceeded to shove those fingers in my mouth. Then, without a single care in the world for the mess we would leave behind, Pepsi dismounted herself and a gigantic wad of cum and pussy juice fell right out of her box, all over my dick and proceeded to disappear somewhere into the towel lazily protecting the bed. Pepsi sauntered off to the shower to clean herself out.

Namu then rolled over and didn't even hesitate to pop me back in her mouth to try and get me to blow a second load. Didn't care that I had spent 15 minutes jackhammering Pepsi, didn't care that my dick was covered in Pepsi's pussy juice, my cum and probably the cum of whoever Pepsi fucked that day as well. Man. That's what I loved about the Palace so much is that the girls just didn't give a you-know-what about swapping juices with their clients and with each other. Good times!

Eddy68
09-11-21, 08:19
Goodbye Pepsi.Pepsi needs to learn her place she isn't on the young side to be upcharging LOL.

Eddy68
09-11-21, 08:23
I don't trust what anyone says about how a girl looks compared to her pictures. Why? Because.

1. Most guys cannot seem to tell whether someone looks like their pictures or not (e. G. , guys swear that fake pictures of Korean models are "real".

2. Most guys word descriptions are totally useless - "pictures are representative", "they're her, but heavily photo shopped", "90% looks like her", "not skinny, but not fat", "typical Korean look".

3. As we all agree, looks are subjective, so, of what use is it when someone has a "big ass" preference, or "big boob" preference, or "MILF" preference, and gives them high ratings, and you have a different preference?

4. Hobbyists seem to rate girls based on other Kgirls they've seen (which may be limited). I see so many girls rated as "model material", who are average looking when compared with real models. If you've only seen 5 Kgirls (who are all average looking MILFs), then you might rate an average looking 20-something as an 8 or 9. They may be "cute" or may be your preference, or the best looking you've seen in the hobby, but that doesn't make them "model material" to the discriminating guy.

5. Hobbyists seem to bias their looks opinion based on their (PSE) service, and vice versa. Someone doesn't become better looking just because they do BBFS..Your some one right. But for me I don't like judging my taste is different then any one here.

Plus talent level has gone way down hill I was 19 when I first got a taste of this and can remember for 2 bills.

The chicks were hotter. Now we have slim pickings. And am mid 30's now so am pretty picky.

Cream Inside
09-11-21, 09:15
New pics from Sophia look great. Anyone see her recently?

https://www.sweetasiangem.com/sophie

Cream Inside
09-11-21, 09:45
Seems like Amora is in Seattle (under GIA) but only offering CFS even though they have the upcharge option over there. That's interesting.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?32857-KAngels-Discussion&p=5510770&viewfull=1#post5510770

https://bellevueservices.net/Gallery.html

AhardLanding
09-11-21, 09:58
Pepsi is now 350. God that hurts.She is now out of her price range. Sorry, old girl.

BootyWatcher69
09-11-21, 10:33
Saw Pepsi for maybe the last time yesterday. Her price is just way too high. I cannot justify the price tag. Maybe for an hr and a half session but not for the hr. I will say tho, her service is incredible. I took control of the session a bit because I saw she wanted to drag the time out & I ended up having a blast. She's a true ****. She goes out of her way to give you the full experience & then some.

Cream Inside
09-11-21, 10:48
Pepsi is now 350. God that hurts.I'm assuming that all the non-upcharge girls (who are now 320) will eventually be 350 by end of next year. Happy hunting.

Owliee
09-11-21, 12:07
Any info on her?

https://mykupcake.com/L_A?product_id=528

Kaamper
09-11-21, 12:35
Bad analogy. Also, the jury is out as to whether her pics are real (see my post below). So, if your expectations are that you will see exactly the girl in the pics (how often does that happen?) then that's an issue with your expectations. If you are just looking for a hot girl and a good experience, then your expectations will have been met.Reality often doesn't match the brochure.

Toungsten
09-11-21, 13:03
M. Nicole, Allie. (Viki returning next week).

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/..

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/................

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/ Jenny.

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana, Nicole. (Viki returning next week).

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji. Saki.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/..............

Ramen25
09-11-21, 13:05
I don't trust what anyone says about how a girl looks compared to her pictures. Why? Because.

1. Most guys cannot seem to tell whether someone looks like their pictures or not (e. G. , guys swear that fake pictures of Korean models are "real".

2. Most guys word descriptions are totally useless - "pictures are representative", "they're her, but heavily photo shopped", "90% looks like her", "not skinny, but not fat", "typical Korean look".

3. As we all agree, looks are subjective, so, of what use is it when someone has a "big ass" preference, or "big boob" preference, or "MILF" preference, and gives them high ratings, and you have a different preference?

4. Hobbyists seem to rate girls based on other Kgirls they've seen (which may be limited). I see so many girls rated as "model material", who are average looking when compared with real models. If you've only seen 5 Kgirls (who are all average looking MILFs), then you might rate an average looking 20-something as an 8 or 9. They may be "cute" or may be your preference, or the best looking you've seen in the hobby, but that doesn't make them "model material" to the discriminating guy.

5. Hobbyists seem to bias their looks opinion based on their (PSE) service, and vice versa. Someone doesn't become better looking just because they do BBFS.

I've spent a lot chasing the latest "hot" girls, and only a small percentage turned out to be truly hot.

So, I am cautious about trying out the latest and greatest, but sometimes will have to TOFMT (Take One for My Team) even if others have tried.I know this has probably been mentioned dozens of times over the years and I recall this was talked about some months ago but you always have to keep in mind that everyone's standards are different. Everyone has an their own idea of what a "model" looks like which could differ from someone else's definition. Some people have a very narrow window / criteria of what that is and some people have a wide idea of what that would be (in terms of Kgirl standards).

Also I think people are looking for different things- some people value the experience / service over attractiveness. While others only care about appearance and body. Nothing wrong with that. But what if they're truly model material but they lay there like a dead fish and keep asking you- are you finished yet? Are you finished yet? Does that still make them hot?

Does a Kgirl have to look like Hyuna or Lisa from BlackPink or Nancy from Momoland to be considered model material? But what if their service sucked and they were dead fishes in the bedroom?

And what if a "not so hot" looking girl, lets say like, IU, gave unforgettable PSE pornstar-like experience with BB everything CIP, CIA, CIM, CIE (ear), CIN (nose), CIE (eye) every orfice you can think of. Does that make them hotter in a sense more so than Hyuna, Lisa, or Nancy over their shitty service?

I don't know. It always just turns into a philosophical question at this point and you just have take everyone's word with a grain of salt. I've learned to just use the info people have contributed and make a informed decision based on what I know, what other people have said, and how they compare to what I've observed personally. Then you can kind of get a gauge on whose opinions and views align mostly with yours and whose doesn't and just go from there.

Fat Jerk76
09-11-21, 14:12
Goodbye Pepsi.You know its bad when PepsiLover is rejecting Pepsi.

DaddyChill
09-11-21, 15:12
Pepsi is now 350. God that hurts.OOF, anyeonghee keseyo Pepsi.

Abaddon143
09-11-21, 15:23
New pics from Sophia look great. Anyone see her recently?

https://www.sweetasiangem.com/sophieGo for it she is LIT.

Abaddon143
09-11-21, 15:25
You think Becky worth a try? Ahah I'm glad I did two two hr session with pepsi.

RawrHard
09-11-21, 15:37
In my 15+ years of mongering this has never happened to me. And if it did, I would immediately let the booker know. That can never happen!

I hope you all mentioned it to the booker to make sure they correct it moving forward.This has happened to me a couple times. They try to stagger the appointments so no one run into each other, but sometimes people arrive late, finish late, or finish early. Then, sometimes the girls don't have good communication between each other, and one might flag the other to wait, but they ignore it.

CarInPark12
09-11-21, 16:29
OOF, anyeonghee keseyo Pepsi.Is Mistress X upcharging as well? I think Leah (Haper) has the best big tits and ass. She just hapns to take to many vacations.

CarInPark12
09-11-21, 16:56
You think Becky worth a try? Ahah I'm glad I did two two hr session with pepsi.I think she is worth it. She likes tossing your salad. She enjoys edibles as well. Let me know if she swallows?

Love Em
09-11-21, 17:02
I know this has probably been mentioned dozens of times over the years and I recall this was talked about some months ago but you always have to keep in mind that everyone's standards are different. Everyone has an their own idea of what a "model" looks like which could differ from someone else's definition. Some people have a very narrow window / criteria of what that is and some people have a wide idea of what that would be (in terms of Kgirl standards)...

Does a Kgirl have to look like Hyuna or Lisa from BlackPink or Nancy from Momoland to be considered model material? But what if their service sucked and they were dead fishes in the bedroom?

And what if a "not so hot" looking girl, lets say like, IU, gave unforgettable PSE pornstar-like experience with BB everything CIP, CIA, CIM, CIE (ear), CIN (nose), CIE (eye) every orfice you can think of. Does that make them hotter in a sense more so than Hyuna, Lisa, or Nancy over their shitty service?...Yup, well there you go. Personally, looking at them, I'd pick the "not so hot" IU over HyunA, Lisa, or Nancy (given equal service), so yeah, everyone has different tastes in appearance and expectations in service. (LOL, I guess I value cuteness over hotness).

Toungsten
09-11-21, 17:14
Days.

So then when I texted "Is Rose available?" the booker saying yes then just sends me to Jenny. Sounds about right these days.

I have never seen Jenny so I don't know. All I do know is that the girl I saw was young hot kinda thick, with a pretty face and perfect tits.

Only downside was a slight stank breath and slightly odd looking teeth, maybe those veneers that always look like horse teeth to me.

I just stared at those natural C bombs bouncing the whole time.

Yes you can glaze her pink for 300.

And at 10 am, next available was 7 pm.

And she said she's busy. I believe her.I don't know who you saw but Rose does not exist. It was a name and pics that were going to be used for Sarah but never was and then Sarah left. It's just a picture and nothing more.

Owliee
09-11-21, 17:39
I'm almost certain she just changed her fake pics to REAL pics on the site because of me. It's probably because it happened literally right after my session ended. I tried to be as nice as possible but I definitely TOFTT. I'm actually getting scared that I have ED because I literally couldn't stay hard for her. Certain girls look decent with weight on but there are girls who definitely don't look attractive and it looks out of place. She is the latter.

Personal Rating: 2/10.

Rating: 3. 5/10.

- Cute Face because she definitely fixed her eyes and nose (IF she loses like 30 lbs).

- Complete Back tattoo of some kind of wing with some words written vertically.

- Rush to finish (It might have been because I wasn't in a good mood after seeing her so she could've reciprocated?

- 4'11 - 5'1.

- 120 - 130 lbs.

- Smokers breath.

- Kept picking her nose (Might do the yeye?

- Dyed hair (I think blonde?

- Performance sub-par (Again, it could've been because she could tell I wasn't attracted to her).

I need to stop masturbating so much because this was the first time in my life that I couldn't stay hard during sex and I'm in my early 30's that runs marathons. I can definitely see guys being attracted to her but unfortunately I am not one of them.

https://mykupcake.com/L_A?product_id=528

Owliee
09-11-21, 18:05
I'm almost certain she just changed her fake pics to REAL pics on the site because of me. It's probably because it happened literally right after my session ended. I tried to be as nice as possible but I definitely TOFTT. I'm actually getting scared that I have ED because I literally couldn't stay hard for her. Certain girls look decent with weight on but there are girls who definitely don't look attractive and it looks out of place. She is the latter.

Personal Rating: 2/10.

Rating: 3. 5/10.

- Cute Face because she definitely fixed her eyes and nose (IF she loses like 30 lbs).

- Complete Back tattoo of some kind of wing with some words written vertically.

- Rush to finish (It might have been because I wasn't in a good mood after seeing her so she could've reciprocated?

- 4'11 - 5'1.

- 120 - 130 lbs.

- Smokers breath.

- Kept picking her nose (Might do the yeye?

- Dyed hair (I think blonde?

- Performance sub-par (Again, it could've been because she could tell I wasn't attracted to her).

I need to stop masturbating so much because this was the first time in my life that I couldn't stay hard during sex and I'm in my early 30's that runs marathons. I can definitely see guys being attracted to her but unfortunately I am not one of them.

https://mykupcake.com/L_A?product_id=528Forgot to mention one of the most important things.

-Young (early 20's).

Abaddon143
09-11-21, 19:48
I think she is worth it. She likes tossing your salad. She enjoys edibles as well. Let me know if she swallows?I'm asking what kind body does she have? I pefer petite type.

PaulRew
09-11-21, 21:49
I know this has probably been mentioned dozens of times over the years and I recall this was talked about some months ago but you always have to keep in mind that everyone's standards are different. Everyone has an their own idea of what a "model" looks like which could differ from someone else's definition. Some people have a very narrow window / criteria of what that is and some people have a wide idea of what that would be (in terms of Kgirl standards).

Also I think people are looking for different things- some people value the experience / service over attractiveness. While others only care about appearance and body. Nothing wrong with that. But what if they're truly model material but they lay there like a dead fish and keep asking you- are you finished yet? Are you finished yet? Does that still make them hot?

Does a Kgirl have to look like Hyuna or Lisa from BlackPink or Nancy from Momoland to be considered model material? But what if their service sucked and they were dead fishes in the bedroom?

And what if a "not so hot" looking girl, lets say like, IU, gave unforgettable PSE pornstar-like experience with BB everything CIP, CIA, CIM, CIE (ear), CIN (nose), CIE (eye) every orfice you can think of. Does that make them hotter in a sense more so than Hyuna, Lisa, or Nancy over their shitty service?

I don't know. It always just turns into a philosophical question at this point and you just have take everyone's word with a grain of salt. I've learned to just use the info people have contributed and make a informed decision based on what I know, what other people have said, and how they compare to what I've observed personally. Then you can kind of get a gauge on whose opinions and views align mostly with yours and whose doesn't and just go from there.Is this the IU you are referring too?

https://bostontopten10.com/iu

CarInPark12
09-11-21, 23:20
Go for it she is LIT.Too bad none of these do BBFS. Yuni is fucking Hot if those are real pics.

Member #6292
09-11-21, 23:48
I'm almost certain she just changed her fake pics to REAL pics on the site because of me. It's probably because it happened literally right after my session ended. I tried to be as nice as possible but I definitely TOFTT. I'm actually getting scared that I have ED because I literally couldn't stay hard for her. Certain girls look decent with weight on but there are girls who definitely don't look attractive and it looks out of place. She is the latter.

https://mykupcake.com/L_A?product_id=528Saw her at kwap agency on Hx. Service sucked, looks were ok. Personality she was cool person but I wasn't there to just hang out. Ended a mediocre session by smoking with her. Accidentally kneed her in they face changing BBBJ to 69. Only reason I know it's her is that giant tattoo with wings on her back.

Abaddon143
09-11-21, 23:55
Too bad none of these do BBFS. Yuni is fucking Hot if those are real pics.She does BBFS 320. LOL.

GG1234
09-12-21, 00:34
Is this the IU you are referring too?

https://bostontopten10.com/iuHe's talking about IU, the singer.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D1PvIWdJ8xo



And what if a "not so hot" looking girl, lets say like, IU, gave unforgettable PSE pornstar-like experience with BB everything CIP, CIA, CIM, CIE (ear), CIN (nose), CIE (eye) every orfice you can think of. Does that make them hotter in a sense more so than Hyuna, Lisa, or Nancy over their shitty service?


I prefer IU over Hyuna, Lisa, or Nancy. I unironically think she is cuter than all of them, and if she could back it up with service, that would be a win-win.

GG1234
09-12-21, 00:59
Is Mistress X upcharging as well? I think Leah (Haper) has the best big tits and ass. She just hapns to take to many vacations.MistressX is still 280.

https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/pepsiclub

Cream Inside
09-12-21, 09:31
MistressX is still 280.

https://www.humaniplex.com/profiles/pepsiclubShe is going to be busy.

CarInPark12
09-12-21, 10:01
Go for it she is LIT.Too bad none of these do BBFS. Yuni is fucking Hot.

PepsiLover
09-12-21, 12:00
You know its bad when PepsiLover is rejecting Pepsi.LOL.

Even though Pepsi has passed her prime I still saw her at 300 because she has that special quality that makes the whole experience so exciting. For someone who has not seen her or someone who is fairly new to the hobby, she may still be worth seeing even at 350. Imagine she retires, which could very well happen given how long she has been in this game, giving little bit more to experience her ultimate carnal debauchery may be worth it to some. We will be talking about her long after she retires, and those who haven't seen her will be wondering what might have been.

Bigjohnrm
09-12-21, 12:04
I'm asking what kind body does she have? I pefer petite type.She is not petite; she is thick and around 5' 6" with long black hair. I think she is attractive and she passionate but as always YMMV.

Kent747
09-12-21, 12:22
I know this has probably been mentioned dozens of times over the years and I recall this was talked about some months ago but you always have to keep in mind that everyone's standards are different. Everyone has an their own idea of what a "model" looks like which could differ from someone else's definition. Some people have a very narrow window / criteria of what that is and some people have a wide idea of what that would be (in terms of Kgirl standards).

Also I think people are looking for different things- some people value the experience / service over attractiveness. While others only care about appearance and body. Nothing wrong with that. But what if they're truly model material but they lay there like a dead fish and keep asking you- are you finished yet? Are you finished yet? Does that still make them hot?

Does a Kgirl have to look like Hyuna or Lisa from BlackPink or Nancy from Momoland to be considered model material? But what if their service sucked and they were dead fishes in the bedroom?

And what if a "not so hot" looking girl, lets say like, IU, gave unforgettable PSE pornstar-like experience with BB everything CIP, CIA, CIM, CIE (ear), CIN (nose), CIE (eye) every orfice you can think of. Does that make them hotter in a sense more so than Hyuna, Lisa, or Nancy over their shitty service?

I don't know. It always just turns into a philosophical question at this point and you just have take everyone's word with a grain of salt. I've learned to just use the info people have contributed and make a informed decision based on what I know, what other people have said, and how they compare to what I've observed personally. Then you can kind of get a gauge on whose opinions and views align mostly with yours and whose doesn't and just go from there.Compared 2010's, there are more fake / exaggerated pics, fewer really hot girls, and more inflated scores due to BBFS now. True stunners are far and few in between now days. Back in the 2010's, I would see 3-5 true hot girls a year vs maybe 1 or 2 if that now days. For BBBF girls, I would down grade their looks since I know guys will inflate their looks scores.

Toungsten
09-12-21, 12:32
M. Off.

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/...

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/.................

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/ Jenny.

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana.

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji. Saki.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/...............

CarInPark12
09-12-21, 13:10
She does BBFS 320. LOL.I contacted Booker he stated she doesn't do BBFS. Explain how you got BBFS?

CarInPark12
09-12-21, 13:23
Too bad none of these do BBFS. Yuni is fucking Hot.Is RoxyBugatti 300 Hhr BBFS all hr three hole or any Korean BBFS a better choice. Too bad Yuni doesn't offerbbfs.

SsStuntCock
09-12-21, 13:39
If someone said Xia Ling and Eye were sisters, it's probably true.

HiKeke
09-12-21, 15:17
I contacted Booker he stated she doesn't do BBFS. Explain how you got BBFS?Book her. If she gives it up to you, good. If not, move on. Plain and simple.

CrunchEazy
09-12-21, 15:19
Is RoxyBugatti 300 Hhr BBFS all hr three hole or any Korean BBFS a better choice. Too bad Yuni doesn't offerbbfs.Roxy is a waste of time. Will make you wait god knows how long and waste your whole day. She has no respect for peoples time. Plus she works out of her place and you have to wait till someone comes out to enter so your waiting at the door for a while looking awkward LOL. You might be lucky and not have this issue happen just saying.

CarInPark12
09-12-21, 15:39
Roxy is a waste of time. Will make you wait god knows how long and waste your whole day. She has no respect for peoples time. Plus she works out of her place and you have to wait till someone comes out to enter so your waiting at the door for a while looking awkward LOL. You might be lucky and not have this issue happen just saying.Thanks for the Intel. I was sure planning to raw dog that juicy ass. I was planning inseminating all three holes.

DaddyChill
09-12-21, 16:33
Saw her at kwap agency on Hx. Service sucked, looks were ok. Personality she was cool person but I wasn't there to just hang out. Ended a mediocre session by smoking with her. Accidentally kneed her in they face changing BBBJ to 69. Only reason I know it's her is that giant tattoo with wings on her back.Aha! I knew that was Lily from when I saw her on kwap. Saw her for an hour but I honestly wanted to leave after 30 minutes. For thicc a girl she has zero ass. Service wasnt memorable either. No dfk.

Abaddon143
09-12-21, 18:31
I contacted Booker he stated she doesn't do BBFS. Explain how you got BBFS?Well she taken like to me. Ahah idk YMV?

Kaamper
09-12-21, 20:12
From Top Girls / Kakao Girls. Young looking. Pretty tall. Her face was cute, but not beautiful. Her body is not my style. Bottom heavy with a pooch. She's friendly. Service was just OK. Her BBBJ was average and short. She didn't seem to want to do much work. Usually bigger girls can take any position, but there were several where she was uncomfortable. BBFSCIP. I'm more of a spinner lover, so no repeat for me.

Kaamper
09-12-21, 20:18
From KTE. Her face is beautiful and her body is outstanding. Young girl. Very thin with natural B cups. She has a certain classy demeanor that many girls can't carry off. BBBJ is good. Full jungle below, so DATY is tricky. She seems new to this, so I did have to go slow with some positions. Very engaged during the deed. Nice chatting after. One of the best looking girls I have seen in years. I will see her again for sure!

JustALil
09-12-21, 20:22
Ok. So every year I decide on a theme for my little hobby.

This year I'm thinking ATF MILF / GILF, so I'm soliciting feedback from the collective mind LOL.

I've seen MistressX and Pepsi, they are great, and are in my normal rotation. Becky is my favorite at PP and I book every week when she's available. Sofia from SAF and Candygirl was fun.

I heard good things about Nana (losAngelesAsian), Yoco (MilknHoney? Sera (Just to let you know. It is all about the experience / fantasy for me. I can deal with age, extra pounds, GND faces etc. My only no's are hygiene, one of the reasons I like the korean houses, all think all ladies should shower and scrub up with you, and of course the blue toast.

Thanks to Nobserver, I definitely have Allie at M's on my list.

Any feedback is appreciated. .

Kaamper
09-12-21, 20:26
From KTownKGrilz. Good looking small girl. Many have argued if the pics are her. Let's just say if they aren't her, they are very close. Especially the ones with dark hair. With all the P.S. And fake pics around, those pics are as honest as they come these days. Small girl with nice enhanced tits and a thin body. Overall, she has the attitude of a S. L. you. T. That just wants to be fucked. She kept telling me how good my dick felt while her perky little nipple were rock hard. She seemed to love having me shoot my load deep inside her pussy. Only downside is the location is one of the worst KTown apartments I've been to. Not horrible, but others are much better. I will repeat!

Owliee
09-12-21, 21:16
I haven't seen her, so I don't know. However, Boner first said fake but pretty (http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?33078-Hot-Young-Asian-Girls&p=5524436&viewfull=1#post5524436). But then he second guessed himself and said the beach pics might be real. Also, reverse image search doesn't bring up anything.I definitely trust BA's ratings now. I can also agree with his assessment. The beach photo can really be her without filter and good angles. Info on her page is accurate.

Personal Rating: 6/10.

Rating: 8/10.

-HYA.

-Pretty (fixed eyes, nose, lips).

-Great body (Very nice B & decent A).

-95 lbs.

-decent service.

-young.

-talkative (if you're into it).

-tight v.

-Very petite.

I'm pretty sure she's busy all the time so she really doesn't need any recommendations. She's personally not my type but I wouldn't mind repeating.

https://ktownkgirlz.com/home?product_id=462

HapaBoy86
09-12-21, 21:51
Is RoxyBugatti.Several years ago she was very friendly and easy to cip and cia. But the last year and 1/2 she has become GPS, a Rob, and will upsell the shit out of you!

Money should be on kgirl not this BMW (big mexican woman)!

Jack926
09-12-21, 23:26
Compared 2010's, there are more fake / exaggerated pics, fewer really hot girls, and more inflated scores due to BBFS now. True stunners are far and few in between now days. Back in the 2010's, I would see 3-5 true hot girls a year vs maybe 1 or 2 if that now days. For BBBF girls, I would down grade their looks since I know guys will inflate their looks scores.In 2010, the girls were all from 8-9 in term of look and once in in awhile, you encounter sub 5 in term of look. These days, most girls are 4 to 6 in term of look and once in a blue moon, you encounter a girl who is 7-8 in term of look. It is SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS.

StopTheMonger
09-13-21, 03:02
She seemed to love having me shoot my load deep inside her pussy.!Just to confirm CIP offered now? MSOG? Same service as well with KTE Baby Sohee?

I've been burned too many times so just want to check.

HapaBoy86
09-13-21, 03:12
In 2010, the girls were all from 8-9 in term of look and once in in awhile, you encounter sub 5 in term of look. These days, most girls are 4 to 6 in term of look and once in a blue moon, you encounter a girl who is 7-8 in term of look. It is SAD STATE OF AFFAIRS.I'll agree with that assessment about 2010.

CarInPark12
09-13-21, 06:06
Just to confirm CIP offered now? MSOG? Same service as well with KTE Baby Sohee?

I've been burned too many times so just want to check.Do you have a link to share? Please.

NObserver
09-13-21, 09:40
Ok. So every year I decide on a theme for my little hobby.

This year I'm thinking ATF MILF / GILF, so I'm soliciting feedback from the collective mind LOL.

I've seen MistressX and Pepsi, they are great, and are in my normal rotation. Becky is my favorite at PP and I book every week when she's available. Sofia from SAF and Candygirl was fun.

I heard good things about Nana (losAngelesAsian), Yoco (MilknHoney? Sera (Just to let you know. It is all about the experience / fantasy for me. I can deal with age, extra pounds, GND faces etc. My only no's are hygiene, one of the reasons I like the korean houses, all think all ladies should shower and scrub up with you, and of course the blue toast.

Thanks to Nobserver, I definitely have Allie at M's on my list.

Any feedback is appreciated. .Nana. Sucks cock with vigor. Will also lick your asshole for 5 minutes straight or more.

Incredible DFK and CIP x 2.

Gives an extremely painful massage. She has very strong hands.

Maybe one of the last escorts who actually gets sweaty while servicing you.

280/60.

Kaamper
09-13-21, 10:29
Just to confirm CIP offered now? MSOG? Same service as well with KTE Baby Sohee?

I've been burned too many times so just want to check.Both Suzi and Sohee are BBFSCIP. Didn't try MSOG, but ad says +$40.

Slim129
09-13-21, 11:07
They just added a new girl named tiny, looks promising anyone try yet?

IAmGib1
09-13-21, 11:18
Nana. Sucks cock with vigor. Will also lick your asshole for 5 minutes straight or more.

Incredible DFK and CIP x 2.

Gives an extremely painful massage. She has very strong hands.

Maybe one of the last escorts who actually gets sweaty while servicing you.

280/60.Nana, Yoco are Service Queens ad will take care of your needs. I would also throw Jay / JayDD / Cierra in with that crowd as well in there as well.

StopTheMonger
09-13-21, 11:27
Do you have a link to share? Please.Ktowngirlz: https://ktownkgirlz.com/home FYI Suzi is not there today.

Ktownescorts (KTE): https://ktownescort.com/home.

Toungsten
09-13-21, 11:52
Tiny. 4'11" Natural 34 B. Young Starts today.

http://preciousklove.com/show/infolist.php?c=JkxaakTTOEEawHQN

Toungsten
09-13-21, 12:26
M.

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/....

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/..................

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/ Jenny.

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana.

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji. Saki. Tiny (new).

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home Dayoung.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/................

Toungsten
09-13-21, 12:32
In these days of chaos in K-girl land PKL seems to have the best all around combination of looks, service and donations. The girls are pretty with nice bodies and the service is always above par. They don't try to gouge you with upcharges and stipulations in their service. BBFS, CIM, MSOG and with some Swallow is part of the basic menu. Now they have four new girls starting this week with Tiny starting today. Check my post or the website. The agency with the best bang for the buck.

GoldDust58
09-13-21, 12:47
They just added a new girl named tiny, looks promising anyone try yet?I'm booked with Tiny today so will report back. Below what I prefer in height and tits but was sold on her by booker. I will try Sierra too next as her tits look delicious.

Darlina I saw maybe maybe 3 years ago under another name in NorCal so she'll be next later in the week. From what I remember good service and a nice slender body. She wasn't fat and seemed to work out. Those are definitely her pics. I will confirm it's her.

Toungsten
09-13-21, 12:48
Two new PKL girls starting tomorrow.

http://preciousklove.com/show/infolist.php?c=JwOOTETaaTwaKHQ3

http://preciousklove.com/show/info.php?id=iOwxSaSwTTawQQpF

BtfdShortVix
09-13-21, 12:54
I'm booked with Tiny today so will report back. Below what I prefer in height and tits but was sold on her by booker. I will try Sierra too next as her tits look delicious.

Darlina I saw maybe maybe 3 years ago in NorCal so she'll be next later in the week. From what I remember good service and a nice slender body. She wasn't fat and seemed to work out. Those are definitely her pics. I will confirm it's her.Thanks for TOFTT. Awaiting your updates. I don't have much to add to the discussion but I did enjoy my time with Miso despite 1 shot only and no doppio.

Mina was an upcharge girl and I found her to v cute and sensual. But she is definitely one of the types to pretend that she likes you and is all sweet to get you to come back. I would see her regularly but 480 every time is quite fiscally irresponsible considering my hobbies outside of this hobby.

Dlee9753
09-13-21, 13:32
I know this has probably been mentioned dozens of times over the years and I recall this was talked about some months ago but you always have to keep in mind that everyone's standards are different. Everyone has an their own idea of what a "model" looks like which could differ from someone else's definition. Some people have a very narrow window / criteria of what that is and some people have a wide idea of what that would be (in terms of Kgirl standards).

Does a Kgirl have to look like Hyuna or Lisa from BlackPink or Nancy from Momoland to be considered model material? But what if their service sucked and they were dead fishes in the bedroom?

And what if a "not so hot" looking girl, lets say like, IU, gave unforgettable PSE pornstar-like experience with BB everything CIP, CIA, CIM, CIE (ear), CIN (nose), CIE (eye) every orfice you can think of. Does that make them hotter in a sense more so than Hyuna, Lisa, or Nancy over their shitty service?Even in your k-pop examples of "hot" versus "not so hot" some commonalities have surfaced.

I have never seen any of these celebrities naked but it is reasonable to assume that Hyuna, Lisa, Nancy AND Iu all have slim / spinner bodies. We would all be disappointed if any of those girls took off their clothes and we saw belly rolls, love handles or cottage cheese thighs.

Even for guys that prefer "big" girls. They know that the generally accepted definition of "model" means lack of belly rolls, love handles, or cottage cheese thighs.

Similarly, even for slim / spinner bodies, some sort of cleavage-- B cups or so-- Is necessary. That's why people that like Pocketgirl generally don't describe her as a model. She definitely has a slim / spinner body but her small A cup breasts-- While expected given her small size-- Sort of disqualifies her from the "model" designation.

That narrows down the field but now we're stuck with outliers: Is Pink slightly too "thick" to be a model? Is Joanne "too skinny"? I like both Pink and Joanne so I'm more willing to trust posters that also like them. I've avoided Eunji because it seems even the people that like her allude to the fact she is "thicker" than Pink. I've similarly avoided Emma because enough people have said she is "too skinny".

At some point I'll have to see both Eunji and Emma myself to calibrate the reviews and ignore / block people that have different tastes than mine.

PS: Personality/service should never be a factor in the "model" designator. That's why most reviewers-- Regardless of body preference-- Give separate grades/impressions on looks/service.

RamShackled
09-13-21, 15:20
Anyone have any info on Marina from 2 Pop? Tried to look her up but couldn't find nothing.

Bince33
09-13-21, 16:08
Ok. So every year I decide on a theme for my little hobby.

This year I'm thinking ATF MILF / GILF, so I'm soliciting feedback from the collective mind LOL.

I've seen MistressX and Pepsi, they are great, and are in my normal rotation. Becky is my favorite at PP and I book every week when she's available. Sofia from SAF and Candygirl was fun.

I heard good things about Nana (losAngelesAsian), Yoco (MilknHoney? Sera (Just to let you know. It is all about the experience / fantasy for me. I can deal with age, extra pounds, GND faces etc. My only no's are hygiene, one of the reasons I like the korean houses, all think all ladies should shower and scrub up with you, and of course the blue toast.

Thanks to Nobserver, I definitely have Allie at M's on my list.

Any feedback is appreciated..What's your review of Mistress X? In terms of her riding skill, DFK, and taking doggystyle? I've been thinking about trying her for a while even though I like 'them younger.

Francescoo
09-13-21, 18:57
Two new PKL girls starting tomorrow.

http://preciousklove.com/show/infolist.php?c=JwOOTETaaTwaKHQ3

http://preciousklove.com/show/info.php?id=iOwxSaSwTTawQQpFThank you boss man will update this week who I see.

Toungsten
09-13-21, 19:29
In these days of chaos in K-girl land PKL seems to have the best all around combination of looks, service and donations. The girls are pretty with nice bodies and the service is always above par. They don't try to gouge you with upcharges and stipulations in their service. BBFS, CIM, MSOG and with some Swallow is part of the basic menu. Now they have four new girls starting this week with Tiny starting today. Check my post or the website. The agency with the best bang for the buck.Forget to post the website.

http://preciousklove.com/

Woahhi
09-13-21, 19:50
How do you guys keep up with all the new sites / bookers?

Cream Inside
09-13-21, 22:50
She only started working in May but already has 93 total reviews. I wonder how many customers she has seen already to accumulate that many reviews in such a short time frame. Talk about high volume. I wonder if she is starting to suffer from burn out or if service is still really good as when she first started.

Doinmaithang
09-13-21, 22:57
Forget to post the website.

http://preciousklove.com/I agree with Tounsten. PKL is a new addition to my go-to list. Their pricing is reasonable IMO for the current market situation. Just visited Tiny earlier today and I was happy. I had an avg visit with Saki in the past so didn't return to them for awhile, but they changed my mind now. Will be back to check out the two new addition.

Paul Sgv
09-13-21, 23:50
What's your review of Mistress X? In terms of her riding skill, DFK, and taking doggystyle? I've been thinking about trying her for a while even though I like 'them younger.Mistress X is one of the MILFs that must be sampled at least once by every monger. Her riding skill is decent. One time she blew all others out of the water by pounding me hard in cowgirl as I was coming. Being so sensitive already during orgasm, she made me scream at the top of my lungs with pleasure with every thrust of that vintage pussy. I swear I could feel every molecule of her hot box.

Doggy style is pretty damn fine with that big, smooth ass to slam against, but what really gets me going is her BBBJ and make out skills.

She was gifted by the sex gods with the other-worldly talent to hit all my spots with those lips and that tongue during BBBJ. Her suction skills cannot be outdone, even by Dyson, and her eye contact is great. She did this thing one time where she pulled my foreskin as far back as it could go and flicked my glans with her serpent tongue. I goddamned hit the ceiling!

She lets me basically go to town during make out sessions. Our lips form a seal so tight, you'd need a combination to unlock us and our tongues hit areas of our mouths we never even knew existed. She's a gem.

Owliee
09-14-21, 00:10
From KTE. Her face is beautiful and her body is outstanding. Young girl. Very thin with natural B cups. She has a certain classy demeanor that many girls can't carry off. BBBJ is good. Full jungle below, so DATY is tricky. She seems new to this, so I did have to go slow with some positions. Very engaged during the deed. Nice chatting after. One of the best looking girls I have seen in years. I will see her again for sure!Personal rating: 5. 5/10.

Rating: 8. 5/10.

I now trust Kaamper's advice as well. Pictures 1,2, and 3 are all accurate. She might even be prettier than those 3 pics.

- 5'7.

- CYA & HYA (she's very pretty in a cute way).

- Completely Natural (B are real B's & A is just regular for a skinny girl).

- Young (early 20's for sure).

- no tattoos.

- also got the feeling that she is new to this.

- cute personality.

I'm not sure why but I don't really like the traditional pretty girl so she's not really my type but objectively speaking, she's gorgeous.

https://ktownescort.com/all_models?product_id=298

Toungsten
09-14-21, 00:37
She only started working in May but already has 93 total reviews. I wonder how many customers she has seen already to accumulate that many reviews in such a short time frame. Talk about high volume. I wonder if she is starting to suffer from burn out or if service is still really good as when she first started.Actually Eunji is better than ever. She went from always giving good service to understanding the nuances of providing. Making her customers feel special and treating them the way they would want to be treated. Exemplifies the term "forgot it was a service".

FrankTheTank78
09-14-21, 00:46
I've been out of the mongering game since March, and don't plan on coming back anytime soon, as I am now with someone.

However, since then, every few weeks or so, I get a new text message from an agency. Usually sixshop; reading "new girl available, BBFS, click here" blah blah blah. I've blocked the the number several times, but the text will still sometimes get through. I don't want my gf to see this, but she doesn't check my phone or anything. Although, once I did get a text while driving, text to speech app read the text through my car speakers, thankfully no one else was in the car. Idk what else to do, other than change my number. Any advice?

BonerAppetitty
09-14-21, 01:22
Thanks, I try to be consistent when talking about young girls and accuracy of pics. Hotness is YMMV so I went back to being careful who I rec. I would advise only trust me if you can take a few disappointments. My tastes are wider than I share. I have disappointed guys before.


I definitely trust BA's ratings now. I can also agree with his assessment. The beach photo can really be her without filter and good angles. Info on her page is accurate.

Personal Rating: 6/10.

Rating: 8/10.

-HYA.

-Pretty (fixed eyes, nose, lips).

-Great body (Very nice B & decent A).

-95 lbs.

-decent service.

-young.

-talkative (if you're into it).

-tight v.

-Very petite.

I'm pretty sure she's busy all the time so she really doesn't need any recommendations. She's personally not my type but I wouldn't mind repeating.

https://ktownkgirlz.com/home?product_id=462

PepsiLover
09-14-21, 01:56
She only started working in May but already has 93 total reviews. I wonder how many customers she has seen already to accumulate that many reviews in such a short time frame. Talk about high volume. I wonder if she is starting to suffer from burn out or if service is still really good as when she first started.I saw her today she was so good. I may post a review.

MrmikeUcla
09-14-21, 02:15
Forget to post the website.

http://preciousklove.com/Are the pics accurate?

StorMalt1
09-14-21, 02:32
She only started working in May but already has 93 total reviews. I wonder how many customers she has seen already to accumulate that many reviews in such a short time frame. Talk about high volume. I wonder if she is starting to suffer from burn out or if service is still really good as when she first started.I finally scheduled one with her tomorrow to see what the commotion is about!

I did like Pink when I finally saw her a couple weeks back, but I'm hoping for more with Eunji.

Abaddon143
09-14-21, 02:50
Well she taken like to me. Ahah idk YMV?She said, if you are returning customer and she got no issue from pervious test from you. She will give you bbf.

GoldDust58
09-14-21, 12:00
As advertised, she is short. 4'11 definitely under 5 ft. 90 lbs seems about right, not super spinner but she is a spinner. Super cute with her size and small face. Has an innocent young look to her. Definitely in her 20's. Mid 20's is guess. Has a little bit of hips so nicer in DG. Not Hana's rounded ass but she has a little padding.

DFK was allowed. She has natural B. Wish they were bigger for my own preference but I know many like that natural small look like Pink, Eye, Teenie. I would put her along side those in youthful bods. Delicious DATY. BBBJ will get better with practice. She was very willing for many positions and easy to toss around. CIP of course. Very sweet and fun personality. I will say she is definitely tight and shallow mags will have trouble. It would be best to not break her and ruin it for everyone LOL.

Like Pink was when she started, I see Tiny will continue to improve. She has the workings of a star. I think once she gets the hang of it and keeps building definitely will be a popular girl. Recommend give her a good if you love the little ones.

GoldDust58
09-14-21, 12:07
I finally scheduled one with her tomorrow to see what the commotion is about!

I did like Pink when I finally saw her a couple weeks back, but I'm hoping for more with Eunji.Eunji is my CF. I see her almost weekly nowadays. I am in love with her tits. Love her shape too. Hope you have fun.

Pink has improved so much since I saw her early on and my recent visit. Her BBBJ has gotten better. She got me to cim first pop easily. It was sensual and perfect rhythm. Sucked along shaft teasing and wanted to get the nut out of me.

I'm seeing Sierra today so will respite back. Darlina closer to the weekend. It is definitely a girl I remember from SJ.

Booker said they have 1-2 more starting soon. Wallets going to take a hit. Glad to see new talent flooding into LA. Can't complain right now with what we have. I wish Adela would be available more too.

GoldDust58
09-14-21, 12:25
Thanks, I try to be consistent when talking about young girls and accuracy of pics. Hotness is YMMV so I went back to being careful who I rec. I would advise only trust me if you can take a few disappointments. My tastes are wider than I share. I have disappointed guys before.Heard she was in Vegas before. Had a more accurate picture there I believe but buddy said her pics were close. He said YMMV attitude with some. A little gps but she was a hottie. Already disappeared from their org? Maybe pop up somewhere else or back to Vegas.

PepsiLover
09-14-21, 12:52
Eunji was so awesome the first time that I decided to see her again. She greeted me in white lace lingerie and great smile. She gave me a hug and light kiss on the lips.

I got undressed and we went to the bathroom to wash hands and mouthwash. Afterwards, I also took a leak. As I was washing my hands she asked me, "Want me to suck it for your?" I was thinking in my head, "Hey, lady, I just took a piss, I shook it, but some piss residue is still present, shouldn't we take a shower first?

Without waiting for my reply, she laid down a towel on the floor, held some cold water in her mouth, and proceeded to give me cold-water BBBJ, something that I haven't received in years. Hot-water / cold-water combo BBBJ was a fad many years ago. Anyways, blowing me right after I peed added a kinky layer of excitement, which made her BBBJ that much exciting.

Watching her lips wrapped around my hard cock was very arousing. She even looked up to look me in the eyes as she slowly slid her tongue up and down on my cock. When she was licking my balls, she no longer had water in her mouth, she spilled some on the floor, but she swallowed most of it.

Her preview BBBJ was hot, and I was anxious to get to the bedroom. So, I suggested we should go to the bedroom. She said, "Okay. " Then, she promptly took her panties off, laid a towel on top of the bathroom vanity counter, and put one leg on top of the vanity with her heels still on and another leg supporting her on the floor, sticking her butt-naked ass towards me.

I gulped. I immediately dropped to my knees, spread her ass cheeks wide, and stuck my tongue in her starfish as deep as I could. I don't know what my tongue was searching for, but it probed and licked every part of her ass and pussy. Although the angle was little bit awkward, but I still managed to munch on her sweet pussy as much as I wanted until my throbbing hardon couldn't take it anymore.

I got on my feet, and I slowly shoved the head on the entrance of her delicate pussy lips. Not that I was looking for one, but I assumed she doesn't keep raincoats in the bathroom and offering herself like that in the bathroom was an open invitation for coverless fuckfest. I gave in to her temptation without any resistance. Soon, we were like two bitches in heat. I grabbed edge of the vanity for support and pounded her phat ass. Apparently, she enjoyed my hard pounding as she was moaning, and turning her head with open mouth with her tongue sticking out. I sucked her tongue in my mouth and held it in my mouth as I continued to pound her. It was so good! No words could possibly describe adequately how good it was.

I stopped before I went over the edge, and we moved to the bedroom. I sat on the edge of the bed, and she got on her knees. She took hold of my cock in her hand, and she stared at it. All of sudden, she spit on it, like in the videos. OMG, it was nasty hot! Of course, she started another fabulous BBBJ. Then, she did something most providers rarely do, she wrapped her massive tits around my cock, spit on it, and proceeded to slide her soft tits up and down against my cock. Her English was very limited, but her Russian was so good.

She got up and turned around with her phat ass facing me. She placed my cock between her thighs, placed her hand underneath it to make sure it was rubbing against her pussy, and she started P2 P. Her bubbly ass bounced back and forth as my cock was sliding against her moist pussy. Then, I felt glowing warm euphoria as my cock found his way into her heavenly pussy. She bounced up and down on my cock. She even bent over to let me clearly see how her pink pussy gripped tightly around my cock as it pumped in and out of her glorious love box. So, freaking hot!

She asked me to lie down on bed and sucked me once more, licking away her pussy juice on my cock. I wanted to taste hers too, so, I asked for 69 and she swung her body around. My head was buried between her thighs, and I feasted on her pussy.

She sat on my cock CG. Her hips rocked back and forth as her pussy rubbed against my cock. She gave me another tease before taking me whole back inside her again. We grinded our pelvis together, she bounced up and down, she thrusted her hips back and forth, we were completely consumed in our lust. It was so hot! I asked her to spit in my mouth, she complied several times, but it was pretty weak, only one landed perfectly in my mouth, the rest landed around my lips.

She leaned over and I hugged her, we were lost in passionate DFK as we fucked each other. I felt warmness around my cock, her juice was running down on my inner thigh as she shuddered on top of me. I didn't have to ask her, she came, several times. I wished I could cum multiple times in succession too. But on this day, just one big nut.

When I came though, she didn't immediately jump off to go clean herself. No, she sat on me with belly full of cum and she chilled and hung out on top of me smiling. She even used her inner pussy muscle to squeeze the last drop out of me. What an incredible girl!

When she finally got off me, some of it leaked out of her pussy and landed on my cock. Another fucking hot visual that seared in my mind forever! She got some tissues to clean herself and me. She sucked me off one more time before going to the bathroom to clean herself. Just awesome and wonder girl. One of the most stellar experiences ever!

300 and I've seen her twice already, and planning to see her again.

SsStuntCock
09-14-21, 13:14
Like Pink was when she started, I see Tiny will continue to improve. She has the workings of a star. I think once she gets the hang of it and keeps building definitely will be a popular girl. Recommend give her a good if you love the little ones.Good work my G. Between Miso, Dana, Teenie, and now Tiny, it's a good time to be a spinner-lover.

Kent747
09-14-21, 13:33
Personal rating: 5. 5/10.

Rating: 8. 5/10.

I now trust Kaamper's advice as well. Pictures 1,2, and 3 are all accurate. She might even be prettier than those 3 pics.

- 5'7.

- CYA & HYA (she's very pretty in a cute way).

- Completely Natural (B are real B's & A is just regular for a skinny girl).

- Young (early 20's for sure).

- no tattoos.

- also got the feeling that she is new to this.

- cute personality.

I'm not sure why but I don't really like the traditional pretty girl so she's not really my type but objectively speaking, she's gorgeous.

https://ktownescort.com/all_models?product_id=298She is not quite as hot as pic #4 which is fake. She is attractive enough, slim, and young (probaby middle to late 20's). Fun factor not too high as she seems new and lacks skills.

HapaLovers
09-14-21, 14:45
New returning monger here. Anyone remember a girl that went by Zena out of familiar and building about 4-5 years ago and have any idea if she's still around? Great service and used to do duo w lily as well. Thanks!

Toungsten
09-14-21, 15:08
M.

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/.....

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/...................

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/ Jenny.

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana.

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji, Tiny. Saki, Darlina, Sierra.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/.................

Majieroero
09-14-21, 16:39
As advertised, she is short. 4'11 definitely under 5 ft. 90 lbs seems about right, not super spinner but she is a spinner. Super cute with her size and small face. Has an innocent young look to her. Definitely in her 20's. Mid 20's is guess. Has a little bit of hips so nicer in DG. Not Hana's rounded ass but she has a little padding.How would you compare her appearance / performance against Teenie and / or Miso? (the other spinners).

TheAbc
09-14-21, 17:51
M.

Newtopasian. http://newtopasia.cuties-sites.com/models/.....

Pink Angels. https://pinkangels.site/...................

Sexy Angels. https://sexyangels.site/ Jenny.

SFK. https://sexyfunkgirls.escortbook.com/ Dana.

PKL http://preciousklove.com/ Pink, Eunji, Tiny. Saki, Darlina, Sierra.

Angels of Ktown (AKT) http://angelsofktown.cuties-sites.com/home.

KGLA. https://kgirlsinla.wordpress.com/.................What happened to M? She hasn't had anyone for a few days now and my text to her the other day went on ignored. I can't remember a time when she had no one working or was closed for this long.

Member #6292
09-14-21, 18:04
New Tiny with PKlove. Her looks is cute but I didn't find her hott like Hana, body is decent and nice spinner. BBBJ was ok it wasnt the best she definitely needs to work on it, kind of soft. She looks early or mid 30's, in the dark she does look mid 20's but noticed she does wear a bit of makeup to look younger. She does need a bit of work in the service department. She wasnt really much of a PSE, soft GFE but with BBFS / cip. She did get tired easily and seemed like she didn't want to go for round two. But I told her to suck me and get me started again, she didn't complain luckily. She got 3 loads out of me all CIP, hope she doesn't get too worn out cause I would see her in a month to see how much she improved. Overall Looks is average and service was Good. I will repeat after I see the other two new girls in MW.

GoldDust58
09-14-21, 18:51
How would you compare her appearance / performance against Teenie and / or Miso? (the other spinners).Miso I haven't seen yet. I try to stay away from the super short ones but on a short list to try.

Teenie is more experienced but I don't find Teenie a service queen. She is a little business but I know guys who see her often have a better time. Teenie body is a bit too small for my taste. If I liked small girls like her I would see her again.

Tiny is more of your sensual cute girlfriend style not PSE. Similar to how pink was in the beginning. I think still will continue improve and be a star eventually. Let's hope. But she is a sweetheart and perfect if you like that style. If she becomes a freak, even better ha.