2000-2004 Archived Reports

[TheWiz]

Yo Gent’s,
Murphy’s Law hit The Wiz on Friday night. I had a legit date with a chick who lived in the Frankfurt section of Philly. I dropped her off at her place at 1030 PM and headed south on K ave to hit Girard for my exit out of the city. Well, on the way south on K ave I decided to stop and get a six pack at Little Lou’s (They have great prices on take out beer -6 pack of Bud 16 oz for $6) Because there were some idiots on the road I had to make a u-turn to park near the bar. Instead of making an illegal u-turn, I made a left at the nest block and did a circle back. I pull up to the bar, and wouldn’t you know it, a phucking pig pulls in behind me with the lights rolling. He said my tail lights were “Very dim” and that I did not come to a complete stop at the stop sign a few blocks back. After he saw my license, he asked what I was doing in that area. Now, I honestly had a legit reason to be in that part of town and he just laughed at me and walked back to his car. After making me sit for twenty minutes he walked up to my car, told me to drive more carefully, and threw me my paperwork and a ticket for $104.00 – for the stop sign.

I will say though that I did not come to a complete stop. WHO DOSE IN PHILLY. Since I was not perusing any wrong doing, I just drove around with a reckless abandon. If I was mongering, I would of stopped completely for every stop sign. So maybe the moral of the story is I should of been mongering.

Anyway, I did notice a blond walking around the Taco Bell area and she was picked up quick. Other than that, it was dry until I hit Front st and the real torn up crack ****** were plentiful.

Everyone knows it is near election time and cities hot spots are being diligently patrolled. Be careful and mind LE.

[JohnnyBlazze]

Its official - D&L on 52nd & Lancaster is closed. Drove by again last night and was very disappointed. Ending up making a trip to NOB, the place is a lot bigger than D&L but no alcohol and restricted smoking areas were a real bummer. Infact there were no drinks at all - not even water. I had a couple of lap dances - but I really wanted a bj. Was my first time in NOB so was not sure how to approach the girls. Can anyone clue me in on protocol at NOB, what is the best line to use to get a girl in the back room for something other than a lapdance. I am pretty sure that there are good times to be had - cause the nastiest girl in there walked right up and asked if I was F@#$ing. I said not tonite - what I wanted to say was not any night (ugly). Since i just got hornier at NOB, I cruised K at 3:30 in the morning - was surprised at all the activity. Immediately picked up a latin SW by the Taco Bell, short brunette - a little heavy, maybe about a 5 - but was very clean. She had awful service, 40 for a CBJ, and man was she pushy, she wanted more money for touching her boobs, wouldnt let me touch her head, wouldn't teabag, and couldnt get me off, so I had to take matters into my own hand, hate that when I just paid for it. Was disappointed so I cruised further down K - towards Girard, saw about 5 more latin and White SW. Picked up a cute LSW about a 6 or 7. 25 for BBBJ, service was nice and relaxed. Her name was Jahida, would definetly see her again. Ok fellas if you have any insight on how to pick up a girl at NOB, please let me know.

[Kilgore Trout #2]

This is my first post. I've got plenty of stories to share of Philly & the South Jersey area, so more will be coming.

Since BF was closed down I decided to try a new AMP. Last night I went to "Heaven" on 1800 Ludlow--it's in the Citypaper. There is a canapy over the door with the address "1800 Ludlow", it's hard to miss. The mamasan gave me the typical "oh you look so young, have you been here before" speech--I do look young so it doesn't bother me. I asked her if there was a lineup available, but was told there is only one girl available. I asked if I could see, I can be a little picky. Wow, this girl was cute. Her name was Youme, she explained it by pointing at me then her and said "You--Me". Anyway the room and hallways were a bit worndown, especially the 20 year-old carpet. I paid the standard $50.

YouMe was hot. She said she was 25, but I'd suspect closer to 30--but still very pretty face and great body. She is about 5'2, with a very tight body. She has large fake breasts that look great in a bikini. Once naked I could notice the implants were not put in properly, you could see a ridge where the silicon ended and reall breast began. But all in all she was very sexy, one of my top 5 AMP experiences. I'd give her face an 8, body an 9, and attitude a 9.

I usually decine the "shower" but decided to get the full treatment and was happy I did. After a good scrub down, with much attention focused on my balls & ass, she wlaked me to a suana that was attached to the shower room--nice touch, didn't have to walk out into a cold hallway. She brought a beer to me, as I requested--Mini Bud can. She then proceed to towel me dry in the sauna.

Once back to the room she proceeded with the standard massage--nothing great, more like a sexy backrub but at least she took her time. When she was finished she undressed and asked me to turn face down--she still hadn't asked for additional $$, which I usually expect by now. She then gave me the best tongue massage i've ever had, licking me from head-to-toe while dragging her huge breast across me--while doing this she would whisper "you like" in a quite sexy voice. After a bit of teasing she gave my backdoor a very nice licking. Then gave me a quick CBJ, 3 minutes top. For the next 25 minutes we did missionary, doggy, missionary--she orgasmed, was not faking. After 20 minutes, asked very nicely, not pushy, if I was going to come. Her english was bad so I couldn't understand alot of what she said. After 25 minutes I pulled out, earlier in the night she asked me to tittu-F her to completion, and with some baby oil gave her the pearl necklace she asked for. What a great ending I was exhausted. She just laid there and kept saying "superman"...lol, I'm not trying to brag, but I was in rare form and had a few drinks in me which also helps. Anyway after she dressed me I realized that she still hadn't asked for any extra money--I wasn't sure if she forgot or what. During this entire experience I had the feeling she kinda liked me, it was very much a GFE. Anyway, I took out $100 (5/20's) and handed it to her--she did not look to see how much money it was, simply put it in her waist band and walked me to door asking me "when you come back". At the door she tried, once again to make out with me, was very odd but enjoyable. I will definitely be back.

A few months ago I was at the BF. They did not have lineup available. My girl's name was Jude, she was mid twenties. Body 6, face 7, personality 9. Backrub was above average. I then paid the standard $100. Once she was naked I realized she had hairy armpits, kinda freaky not really my thing. Anyway, she was very nice. Gave me a great CBJ, so good that I accidently finished off within a couple of minutes--unlike my recent trip to Heaven, I was sober and had a hair trigger. At this point I was very disappointed, this had actually happened once before--what a waste of money. But to my suprise Jude said "you relax, I bring you another beer." She came back with the beer and wiped me down with a warm towel. She then said "I be back in few minutes, you relax". A few minutes later she returned and proceeded to give me a second CBJ the CFS in several postions. I was in this place for about an hour-and-a-half. I gave her a $20 tip, which is very uncharacteristic of me. I'm wondering if I got the free second round perhaps due to the fact that it was early afternoon on a weekday? Anyway it was a great experience, two shots for the price fo one.

I will post some storied tommorow of my SW experiences, usually on Broad and some side streets. All my years of mongering and I've never been to K ave. I'm from South Jersey. Could someone please tell me the EASIST & SAFEST way to get to K ave coming off of the Ben Franklin Bridge? It would be greatly appreciated. Also, if you could tell me the best way to get out of their and back on the bridge--I have a fear of getting lost in the hood.

Sorry this posting is so long, I'm new at this. You can expect plenty of posts in the near future but I will cut out all the extraneous info.

[Mr. Wet Wooly]

kilgore,

hard to get lost on k ave. its under an elevated subway -- follow the el.

to get to it, take 95 N to E. Girard exit, go west on Girard to Front St. (the el), make a right and Front turns into K ave in about a mile. Girard is a main thoroughfare so its safe. its election time (bullshit quality of life arrests) so you may want to lay low for a while.

[Xray]

Hey Trout,

It is easy to get to from the ben Franklin Bridge. I am from South Jersey, too. Stay in the Right lane on the bridge take I-95 north. Go two exits and take Allengany. Go down the ramp and make a left. The sign is bent and hard to see. Go down allegany for about ten lights. It is easy to find the K it is right under the El tracks. Turn either right or left. I perfer going left down to the KFC and back to see what is out there. Just take Allegany back and there is a huge sign for I-95 south. There is aot of Le out. So, just don't any to draw attenion to yourself. Drive two mile an hour or never make a u-turn. Good hunting.

I just got back from the K. I picked up Nicole. Looks like she is young 21 to 23. Redhead, very cute. 30 for bbbjtcim. Very nice. She was near the KFC.

Xray

[MSJ44]

JonnyBlaze,

I'm a regular at NoB. All you really have to do is ask basically. The majority of the chicks in there are looking to provide extras.

I tend to just make arrangements to hook-up outside where you can really enjoy them. In particular, I would recommend, Sexsation, Satin (latin), Buttercup, Butterscotch and Imani. All provide services outside ranging from $.1 to one and a half, with most providing Greek as well.

Another spot for you to peep is Moet on Monday and Wed. They serve liqour and have a very active VIP/backroom. Club moet is off of broad, just pass temple. Nice club lay-out, much like a normal club (which it is any other time). If you hit citysearch for Philly you will get the address for Club Moet.

[Rumbler]

Since the local PD has shut down numerous AMP in the Northeast area of Phila., I thought we all could get together and recommend any MPs or local stops where the good areas are as of this date. Their is a great massage parlour just outside Phila. on Townshipline road. That is Cottman Ave and when you pass Church St it becomes Townshipline. The addy is 875 1/2. There is a side entrance behind the Nail salon. Big numbers on the side of the bldg. Just walk in -2 or 3 girls usually. $40 house cost-prices neg. with the girls. Most 7-10's.

[Kilgore Trout #2]

Thanks for the directions guys. I'll keep you posted when I visit.

I've been on the prowl alot lately. I hit Shogun AMP yesterday afternoon, I forget address address but in the city paper--maybe 16 & Sansom. No choice of girls. Forget my girl's name, actually the entire experience was forgetable. She was mid-twenties. Face 6, body 6, attitude 7 She was chubby for an asian, not fat, just chubby (Kilgore is very picky when it comes to body, extremely high standrads). Large breasts, but too saggy. Horrible massage--10 minutes tops. I said "Is that it?", but got little response. I should have turned down FS at that point, but once I get started hard for me to stop. So I went ahead, sex was average. Very mechanical, very rushed.

I do not recomend this place, I had better experice at Heaven.

[Flaco]

Hey,

Just a heads up for Sunday. Along the area between Girard and Allegeny there will be alot of streets closed, detours and heavy presence of LE due to the festival after the Puerto Rican day parade downtown is done. For those looking for non pros there will be plenty of chiks around.

Be safe and happy hunting

[Kilgore Trout #2]

My old stomping grounds used to be Broad Street. I'm bad with street names and directions but I will try and explain where my cruising area was.

I came from Bala Cynwyd to 76E to Roosevelt. Then from Roosevelt to the Broad Street exit, making a right onto Broad. I would cruise from there until I hit Spring Garden and then loop back. The most action tended to be closer to Spring Garden. I usually went on weekends after 10. There is never alot of action on Broad but if your persistent enough you will usually see a few, mostly black but some white. They rate between 1 - 6, with an occasional 7--alot of crackheads and bottom-feeders. There is a sidestreet about 2 - 3 blocks from Spring Garden--heading towards Spring Garden it's on the left. The street runs parrallel to Broad. It may be Masters but not sure...anyway, sometimes there will be a few BSWs hanging out there in a group. The LE is always around, but I've never had a problem, you just have to make sure the coast is clear before pulling over.

Kilgore Trout hasn't tried K ave. yet but will keep you posted.

What other hotspots are there, preferably for WSWs?

[shyguyphilly]

AssCon style parties in Philly:

Was in NYC last week and attended an AssCon!!!! Boy, it's wild. And cheap. Read more about it here: http://www.wsgforum.com/vforum/showthread.php?threadid=228

The interesting part was that the organizer told me that there are similar parties in Philly too! Dont know just where. Anyone got any clue?

[Raw]

I will say though that I did not come to a complete stop. WHO DOSE IN PHILLY.

As one who once beat a stop sign violation in Lancaster County, I can tell you that you do not have to come to a precipitous stop in PA at a stop sign in a visibly clear intersection. This does not mean that you can just blow through the sign. If you slowed to the point just before stopping and rolled gradually through, you can beat the ticket by sighting any of a dozen or so court cases that have affirmed that ruling. A little time in either Temple's or Penn's law library will give you all of the info that you need.

[Philly Doc]

Zaphod,

Where does this Jamie hang and what does she look like?

Thanks for the info on the BSW. May have to try and let you guys know.

[Mr. Wet Wooly]

re: shogun

they usually give you a line up if you ask for it.

if you're just stuffed in a room, politely turn down the first girl they send you (you can always go back) and you'll usually get another.

the last time i went to shogun (a sat. night i think) saw the lineup, saw nothing worth $150, and left. politely asked if wendy (made up name) was working, they said no, and was on my way.

anyone checked out the 13th st. spot?

[DX Freak]

Was out on Saturday night between midnight and 2 am. Same ol' same ol'. Lots of action on the K, but no real lookers. I'm sure the torrential downpours didn't help me differentiate between 4s and 7s, thanks to umbrellas. hooded sweatshirts, and the like. For once, the best seemed to be closer to Front St. The hot blonde was once again hanging at Coral and Dauphin, but this time with a white guy in a Flyers jersey instead of the black guy she is normally with. Still didn't look at me. Still don't know the deal.

Anyway, I was also in DC and Baltimore a couple of weeks ago and am just curious about why things seem so different in Philly. In Baltimore, the girls look about the same as here, but there are a ton more of them in a lot more locations. Here, we basically have K avenue with a little bit on broad. I can name 5 locations in Baltimore off the top of my head that have just as much or more action. And DC just blows both of them away. It has it's areas where philly-level girls are available, but the SWs on K and L are unbelievable. I mean, they are hot (some being real hot, on a normal scale, not an SW scale.) They totally dress the part, showing lots of skin, and for the most part, don't appear to be addicts as the majority of the girls here are. Most of the girls look better than the dancers at low-end places like TTS. From what I've read, these girls charge more too, but the looks make me think it's worth it. I was really tempted when I was there, but the fact that DC repossosses john's cars made me think that it was not worth the risk, as LE are pretty prevalant. I just find it out that two smaller nearby cities have a much better scene than us.

[CC Boy]

Can someone give me some scoop on and AMP called West Chester therapy in West Chester? Is anyone scoring any more than a rub and a tug there?

[Lion]

I too hit Shogun a while back-walked up and waited 2 minutes and met one who was too old (35?), asked for a smaller girl and got a 28yr old who was about 5' but heavy (130lbs?). Said no thanks and left. They didn't seem surprised actually...

[PervAlbert]

I still haven't perfected the knack of walking out, and should have on last 2 visits to new places (for me) on 11th and 216 13th. Asked to see 'more than one girl' both places and was presented a bevy of 5 on 11th and only 2 on 13th. None of them appealed to me-am i getting jaded or is the quality slipping-and yet I chose one each place and was not rewarded. Weren't my type, no particular chemistry or desire, and yet the deed was done and I realize the time between my visits wil grow longer. The one on 13th (didn't even get a name-didn't really care in her case but she had a vague resemblance to a Korean Olive Oyle- wasted no time on preliminaries and had me out in about 35 minutes-no pretence of a massage before or after. And these are both in the same dodgy hood full of street people loitereing everywhere offering to escort you or watch your car. So the AMPs are dwindling down to a precious few-most of the good ones gone and the bad and ugly remain. Maybe a good time for a short break-hell u can whack it for free and it frequently feels better too.

[Mr. Wet Wooly]

shogun never had much quality anyway. ive never actually did the act there. i walked out twice -- and my standards are low!

sad to hear 13th is a dissapointment. no massage?! that's just unacceptable.

[Zaphod]

Doc

Jamie is I would say is tall 5' 8 -5'9 mabie. Long blond hair, little below her shoulders and a killer body. She usually has one of those little backpaks on. I usually see her between Erie-Torresdale and Castor, this is usually where Teddys girls work, they all come out at the same time.

I have not been out for a few days but was down there like 3 times last week....ziltch. I agree with the others, going to be few and far between till after the election is over. I have not been down much as my fav is in jail, and seems for quite a while.

Good Luck

Zappy

[ExtremeSex]

I've enjoyed the company of Paula at Shogun, and I would rate her services rather high. She is a bit heavier than the typiccal AMP model type, but I kind of like that change every now and then.

The state of AMPs in the city has become deplorable. Maybe a change in the administration will revitalize things.

[JohnnyBlazze]

I am planning a trip to K ave tonite - I noticed from alot of previous posts that you guys mostly attempt a BBBJ. I have reduced the amount of times I get BBBJ in the last 2 years. Very rarely will I let a girl do that- I am afraid of what I can catch. I heard in a report that if the girl gargles w/ mouthwash first (listerine) then it kills any STD's that would be transferred over. I always have the girl use MW prior to giving me a BBBJ. Can anyone tell me of there experiences - and what caliber of girl they allow to give them bare back. I have seen some real bottom feeders - and there is no doubt that they are carrying something you don't want.

Johnny

[Spock962]

Hey,

This is my first post I used to monger heavily in the K&A area and in Camden on the blvd about 4 to 5 years ago but got married and have the family thing going. Any way cruising on K this morning from 8:45 till around 9:50. I saw light LE { total of 3} but one LE was a new crownvic with police stickers no lights on the roof acting “ aggressive” with 2 LSW’s both times he quickly pulled up beside them they tried to avoid him and I only briefly noted he was speaking to them threw the window one LSW {Latino} about a 8-9 looked very young wearing a blue denim jacket and matching pants but she was giving the look and another I think also LSW was wearing long white coat looked kinda tall 5’ 10” nice slim build cant recall the rest she was eating a sandwich. This was between Lehigh and Somerset. One of the three LE was near the 7 –11 driving on both sides of the street also saw a small 5’ wsw couldn’t see her so good seamed to be about a 4 had the crackhead thing going. Saw a wsw 7-8 {looked good I wanted to stop but not confortable yet} dark red hair showing the belly button at ven and k.

About 2 weeks ago I also saw much LE marked and un marked in late morning 11:30 to 12:45 saw some in newer tarsus/sables 00-03 they stick out because their so clean and 2 suvs with tinted windows 1 black dodge Durango 99 to 03 and the other was a green ford explorer 4 door about a 01-02 but they had the windows cracked so I could see their blue shirts.

Well that’s some intell for you guys I really wish I could find a decent regular I could hit with out cruising and the escorts are way too pricey for me.

[Carbon]

This 22yo girl from India stayes here illegally. I have known her for half a year but never thought that something may happen between us. Lately she was in the very big need of money (for her family in india) and right after I realized how desperate she was I began to act. I found her a job for cash in good restaurant and politely hinted her how she may THANK me. The plan worked, the offer was so good that she could not reject it.

So there she was naked in my badroom after some action. She was a little bit ashamed I should say.

[Lobo]

Cruised Kensington Ave last night around 10:30 PM. I usually avoid this area on Friday and Saturday because of LE and the fact that everyone is out - I'm not talking about the girls but all the lowlifes and sketchy characters that wobble around on the Ave. Anyway, there was a huge LE presence - the only time I've seen more was at the beginning of Operation Sunrise a few years back. Their were cops parked everywhere, cops on foot and cops on bikes. And no girls anywhere.

I left and came back around midnight. LE had pretty much disappeared but still there wasn't a girl to be seen from Girard all the way up to where K merges with Front. Turning around, I saw a girl behind the park on Front but she wanted $40 for a bj. I don't mind paying money, but 40 on the Ave? It's just too steep. 25, maybe 30 but not 40 on Kensington Ave, so I declined.

I tried one more time around 3 AM. Saw an older woman who I picked up because I was getting desperate. However, she talked so much and reeked like booze so I dumped before doing anything. Then saw a cute blond but the car in front of me got her first. Ended up going home with nothing! A lot of time for nothing. Where have all the girls gone?

I also cruised N. Broad from Spring Garden all the way up to Hunting Park - nothing at all. Even the Carlyle Hotel on Poplar and the blocks around it were dead. There was just nothing out last night. I even cruised over to Camden and Broadway was also dead. What the hell is going on?

Lobo

[Flaco]

Hey,

Since most of the good amps in Philly are shut down, I went to try the mp on Township Line Rd that was mentioned a few post back but it was closed. I then went to Sunshine Spa on Old York but they wanted 60 and 110 and the provider looked to be in her late 40s, so I walked out. Drove up further and tried Majic for the first time. Had a great time there with Ming. Good conversation, relaxing massage and was charged 50 and an unbeleivable 70 for fs at an amp. I intended the 70 to be for cbj, but after she put the cover on she said get on top, I couldn't beleive what I was hearing. So I went right to work. After the session was done she asked if I wanted to stay for an extended massage and I agreed. I like the fact that even though they where busy she didn't rush me in and out. Stayed there for a relaxing hour and a half. I would highly recommend.

BTW...carefull on K ave. went by last week at 11pm and saw a wsw standing near at the corner where the adult theater is. I went around the block and on my way back to K on the small street before K hits Frankford, I believe its Adams, there was a silver merc sable with LE sitting watching her.

Be safe.

[T Man]

Hello there,

I'm in downtown Philly (market st) for the next couple of days, and I'm determined to hit one of the local spas. Since it's been years since I've actually been to one (getting full service in Detroit isn't an easy task!), I have a few questions that I'm hoping some of fellas can help me out with:

1) What's the closest (and best) Massage Parlor within WALKING distance of the downtown Marriott on Market st? And who would you recommend?

2) I want to get a nice massage, table shower AND full service...should I go with the hour massage?

3) When exactly do I ask mamasan to show me all available girls, when I first enter or after I'm in my room and about to pay the house fee?

4) Can a bbbj be had at these local spas?

Thanks in advance guys,

T-Man

[T Man]

Hello there,

I'm in downtown Philly (market st) for the next couple of days, and I'm determined to hit one of the local spas. Since it's been years since I've actually been to one (getting full service in Detroit isn't an easy task!), I have a few questions that I'm hoping some of fellas can help me out with:

1) What's the closest (and best) Massage Parlor within WALKING distance of the downtown Marriott on Market st? And who would you recommend?

2) I want to get a nice massage, table shower AND full service...should I go with the hour massage?

3) When exactly do I ask mamasan to show me all available girls, when I first enter or after I'm in my room and about to pay the house fee?

4) Can a bbbj be had at these local spas?

Thanks in advance guys,

T-Man

[Lobo]

T-Man,

There are actually quite a few AMP places within walking distance of the Marriott. You should pick up a City Paper or Philadelphia Weekly (available for free on most street corners - I prefer City Paper) and look at the ads in the back. I'm sure others on this board can provide more details about each one. I've only been to the one at 1211 Race and it was pretty good. Attractive girls, thorough service. The girls and ownership seem to change all the time though.

The prices are usually pretty much the same. 40 or 50 for the "massage" then negotiate with the girl. Usually about 100 for FS. I highly doubt you'll find anyone to provide bbbj in any of these places, at least that's my experience. I have never been able to look at all the girls. Luckily, I've always liked the one that mamasan brings out.

Most of the AMP's will be either on Arch or Race (1 or 2 blocks behind the hotel). These areas can have some sketchy people late at night, but just keep to yourself and you should be cool.

Lobo

[T Man]

Lobo, thanks for the info!

The first place I tried was 1211 Race St, but it appeared to be closed. I tried the glass door on Race st (could see the door inside saying new horizion), but the door was locked. I looked around for another entrance, but had no luck.

Luckily I read about another AMP right around the corner at 216 N. 13th. Good thing I had the address, there were no markings what so ever to show they were an AMP.

Let me say this, you guys in Philly are so damn lucky. The couple of AMPS in my neck of the woods in Michigan aren't half as good. At my amp, this is the routine: Enter the door and are usually greated by either the mamasan or masseuse. Massage will run 50-60, and you pay that right up front. There isn't a table shower, but some do have saunas that you sit in by yourself. Once back to the room you get a nice massage with a happy ending, never get FS. Usually 20-40 for tip.

This is how it was for me, which was a total shock: I rang the buzzer at 216 n. 13th (no clue what it's called) and the mamsan let me in. She led me to a room and asked if I've been here before, I said yes even though it's my first time in Philly. I asked to see a lineup so I can pick and she nodded her head. A minute later, a tall beautiful Korean girl with long hair (down to her waist) and large breasts walked by. I don't think she was planing to come into the room but when she saw my mouth drop she came into the room. At this point, I didn't need a lineup....I had my girl! She introduced herself as June, she was about 30 years old and tall (maybe 5'10') with large natural breasts. Something to keep in mind, money was never mentioned. She asked me to get undressed for the table shower, which she led me to.

I've had a couple table showers in my days, but never one like this. She actually took all her clothes off too while she gave me the shower. This left me easy access to her beautiful breasts, which I took advantage of. She gave me an excellent shower (hitting all the right spots) which must of lasted 15 minutes.

When we get back to the room I took out my money and left it on the table (as I've been taught here in the WSG). I put $140 down, she never counted it or mentioned anything about it. She took off her clothes again and gave me a nice hard massage. Before I flipped over, she ran her tounge all over...very nice! When I flipped over, well...I think you can guess the rest. Basically CBJ, CFS, DFK and i did manage two pops.

Overall an excellent experience, I wish I had more money to explore so more!

[Tymonas]

"Lately she was in the very big need of money (for her family in india) and right after I realized how desperate she was I began to act"

Carbon, man you are one lucky dude. Do you think she would take on another benefactor. I would be very generous to her cause I have a thing for Indian women.

[JohnnyBlazze]

Fellas,

I will be heading down to NOB tonite, but will check D&L again as I hope that it might open up again. Figure the weather hasn't been this nice in a while, maybe I'll make a trip to K ave also. Either way, I'll let you know how it goes.

[Capt Kirk]

Does anyone know if Yuki Spa is still available? Its in Chinatown near the Greyhound Station at around 2nd street or so. Its a good place.

[hohunter]

forgive me if this is old news, but I've not been to Philly in a while. Is the Hill still open for biz? I recall it being shut down, but that happened before and lasted a month.

[Jimm Mosier]

Good afternoon Mr. Lobo and Philly Mongers -

1st visit next week staying at HI at 400 Arch. Any suggestions for an incall with a mature, slender to curvy Latino GFE? Could I also use, based on my location, the comments to T Man? Enjoy your weekend.

[Rumbler]

Yo Freeway,

I saw the photo of 42B-Basement Ich ban what street Bro.?

[jamesb]

Anybody know what the deal is with the nudie shops on Market between 22nd and 23rd? Is there any action to be had upstairs at the live shows? Or am i just wasting my money. Not looking for FS but for a BJ or an HJ.

[PhillyBoys]

Report from K:

3 days ago, 11pm-1am

Freaking LE was everywhere, must at least see 30+ on bike and on car per block!!! WHAT THE FU*K?? is going on? An election I guess, better stay low for awhile.

[Pazx]

Is Ichi Ban an AMP?

[JohnnyBlazze]

Cruised K ave yesterday between 4 to 6pm, saw what looked like a lot of SW action, but even more LE action. Didn't see any BSW, does anyone know where the best place to pick up BSW during the day is. Now that D&L is closed - my supply has dried up. Need to refill, any help would be greatly appreciated.

[hallowolverine]

When did D&L close? Does anyone know any details.

[JohnnyBlazze]

Hallowolverine,

I don't have any specifics. I drove by D&L about 3 times last month and it was closed, I checked it between 1 and 3 am every time. I never got a chance to visit the back room in the place, but I had a lot of fun upfront, and got a number froma hot black girl at least a 7-8 body and 7 face, the number worked for a while but is no longer in service.

If any one has any info please post.

[Kilgore Trout #2]

Philly AMP Questions:

1. Please provide more details about Ichi Ban? Is it an AMP? Is it listed in Citypaper? I've been around awhile and never heard of it.

2. Any news about Callowhill? I knocked on the door a few months ago and got no reply. Has it shut down for good? Has anyone checked it out lately?

3. What's up with Blue Fox? That was my favorite since the Hill shutdown. Has the Fox reopened yet? Any info?

4. What is the consensus favorite AMP now that BF & the Hill are seemingly gone? I had a good experience recently at Heaven, but only went there once and did not get to choose from lineup. Ichi Ban sounds good but have only heard reports from one person.

5. Has anyone ever managed to get the phone# from an AMP girl? Has anyone ever setup a date for outside the AMP? Do most of these girls live at the AMP. I have met a few who have their own apartment, but it seems like most live at these places.

Thanks in advance for the updates fellas!

[daty guy]

Went to the Magic Spa a few days ago and hooked up with "Bobbie." She's about 5'7" tall. Nice body, no implants and very friendly.

I would highly recommend her.

Yes, I will see her again.

[Kilgore Trout #2]

Props out to Freeway for his Ichiban info. Even though Kilgore couldn't find the address in the CityPaper, Kilgore was able to locate the Ichiban with the use of Freeway's directions; the picture he included of the front door was very helpful.

IchiBan Report

Kilgore checked out the Ichiban on a Thursday night around 10pm. The mamasan was younger and more attractive than most, and Kilgore did not find her particularly mean like Freeway had stated--although when asked for a lineup she laughed. Once in the room a girl entered and just stood there, after a minute of akward silence she asked, "am I ok?". Kilgore said "yes". Kilgore believes this may be the Ichiban version of a lineup--sending one girl at a time into room. Kilgore is used to the traditional lineup where a few girls are presented at once. Kilgore found it difficult so simply turn away a girl and prefers a true lineup.

Her name was Toni. She was Chinese, but from NY. When asked for her age she laughed and said "21 and a half". More like early thirties. Very nice tight body. The best part was she did not wear bikini, she wore a sexy, slutty pink dress. She had kinda wild, long hair with streaks in it.

The table shower was very nice, Toni took her time. However, Kilgore was startled to see Toni put on huge red rubber boots before entering the shower room; Kilgore has always been weary of the table showers, it isn't the most sanitary place in the world, and the rubber boots put a scare in me. I'm sure this is to prevent any foot/bacteria type infection. After the shower, Kilgore went to the sauna for a few becuase I was shivvering cold. To Kilgore's suprise Toni explained that she could not get him a beer, they did not have any (she offered soda instead). This is the first AMP that did not serve Mr. Trout a beer.

Back to the room, the massage was great, again, Toni took her time. Toni did not have underwear on, she showed me earlier during the shower. Mr. Trout was impressd with a very trimmed up bush, most AMP girls keep it longer than I prefer. During the massage she straddled me and grinded her pussy into my back, so that I could feel her stubble rub back and forth. When I turned over she procceded to undress. Great body, very tight, very nice fake tit's. She then began kissing my body (not licking) working her way to my mouth where she would kiss my lips lightly (no tongue). It was very sensual. She then worked down stairs kissing her way to my balls, which she licked and sucked for at least 2 minutes. She then licked my cock for a minute or two before sucking on my head (no rubber, which was a suprise). After working my head for a minute she proceeded to put on a condom and gove me a good CBJ. We ended up having a great session. Missionary, then doggy, then missionary with legs on my shoulders for about 15 minutes (was drinking earlier). Toni sensed that I wasn't going to come too soon, so instead of bitching/complaining and trying to rush, she said "can I get comfortable", while taking her from behind, keeping me inside her, she laid flat on her stomach with her head in the pillow. I rode her in the positiona for almost another 10 minutes- towards the end she clenched her cheeks together making it very very tight. Was really a good time.

When I was finished, she wiped me down and to my suprise asked if I could stay with her a little longer. I thought she may want more $$, so I was cautious. Turns out she wanted to cuddle in bed, lol. We laid there together while I rubbed her fake tit's for quite sometime, at least 4 songs played on the radio. She told me stories about some of the guys that go in there. How sometimes the guy cums during the massage!!lol! Finally she said she had to get going but begged me to come back soon. All in all it was a great experience. Freeway has found a gem. The only negative was that there was no ass-licking which is always a plus. Face 6 (but had really sexy lips), body 8.5 (the shaved trim was a nice touch), service 9. I'll be going again!

[JohnnyBlazze]

I hit Wild Things last night - was not bad - some pretty good looking girls - all black most with nice bodies and faces. I got a LD for 30 (2 songs) Once of the best LD's I've had in a long time - was able to grope on her tits and ass. she was not totally nude - said she would get buck naked in the private room, but she wouldn't jerk me off, she said she doesnt do that stuff. I am sure that other girls in there do. Private room is $80, but I wasn't a sucker and correctly turned it down. Great LD though. I tried to get into NOB but I got there at 11:30, I am guessing they dont open till later at nite. Hopefully they are not closed as well. I headed down K ave after the bar. Saw a WSW around K and Lehigh. She was pretty worn down from working the street - she was proabbly a 8-9 2 years earlier, from far away she looks good - close up you can tell she is beat. For 25 she gave a CBJ, lickd my nuts and tossed my salad. She was ready to give a BBJ - but I wasn't about to let her. Surprisingly there were a few girls out there, andfewer then average LE.

Keep safe and keep the posts coming.

[Mack Mittens]

Guys,

It's 4:18 in the morning and I just came back from the Ichi Ban (now called Sunset or something but I like the word Ichi Ban a lot better) and, well back to the point! FS was great, I even got to hit it from the back door and busted on her back.

I'm a little dizzy from all the nut bustin so I'm going to sleep I'll post detail up later.

EDITOR's NOTE: Posting of this report was delayed pending revisions for capitalization and punctuation. To avoid future delays, please refrain from using the "chat room" style of writing with no caps or punctuation. Thanks!

[vasu_cupid]

Can someone give me the street address of ichi ban? I am not from the city so can't follow if you say between 7 th and 8 th kind of directions. Give me the door number and I will get directions from internet.

Thanks,

VC

[Rumbler]

Go to 3rd and Market St. in Center City-Walk south-that is towards Chestnut St. it is 42 B between Market and Chestnuts Sts on 3rd St.

Ichi Ban

[Carbon]

Did anyone ever try to use city paper for incall or outcall? Let me know, I am curious.

[Danzig19]

Hey Trout Gore,

Have you ever gone to the AMP girls' apartments?

[ExtremeSex]

An opposing view point:

I've sampled the talent at IchiBan several times though the last was over 6 months ago. Every time I was dissapointed.

There was no line up, mamasan just gives you a girl. I was able to see several of the girls working, but none were very attractive. They ranged from young, and moderately attractive to old an homely. It wasn't so much the looks that turned me off, but the service. It was a complete rush job everytime I was there. In the door, quick shower, short and not very good massage, flip, short BJ, and onto mish. Same exact thing with every girl I tried there. Once I asked for doggie, and she said no. So I've nver been back.

Maybe they ve changed since then.

[Dutch Treat]

DATY Guy

Could you give us the whereabouts of the Magic Spa? It isn't in the papers or the yellow book.

[daty guy]

Dutch,

It's on Old York Rd in Jenkinsville. They a small ad in the city paper. The ad is also a $10.00 off coupon.

Good luck

[Black]

Meet Jessica on the ave. good looking WSW, some college also so she was pretty intelligent, except for the drugs and all. saw her by the Church on Kensington near Leigh ave. Great job 40 poiints for everything. We went to the mo' off Girard. Anyway good time and also meet another girl, looked indian, she lives on New Orleans very pretty needs to put up more of an effort.

[Good Neighbor]

As far as I'm concerned, KA must be the best place in the world for SW. Nothing like it in Columbus OH. When I'm in Philly I can go shopping any time of day and buy something. Wow!

Friday night from 10 to midnight were a few SW out, nothing to stop for, but all the time fun to look, and to get them to wave at you when you drive by for the third for forth time. I saw almost no LE. This time they were all the way from the south end of KA north on Frankford to the new construction.

Saturday am I went again, about 10 am. Saw a few older, not to pretty WSW. Still only a couple LE. One time I was going around the block, and I stopped (a full stop at the stop sign) only to have one come over and get in - I didn't ever see her til she was in. I wasn't buying yet, so told her I'd get back to her. I felt bad for the hurt look on her face. Wow!

I saw a couple pretty ones, but kept shopping til I found Megan. Megan was near Front, just sitting on the edge of a parking lot with her back pack looking straight ahead. I thought she was a school girl waiting for a ride. After the third time past, I gave her a stare, and she stared back. I turned around, went down the side street, and she got in. Megan is young, early 20's at the oldest, small, cute, easily an 8 in her sweats, and a 9 when dressed up.

We went to a local no-tell motel, she knew a place, what a dump, and we did the deed. We settled on 40 for everything, with a tip if earned. I tipped her 10. Except for hard to see stretch marks, and slightly deflated small tits, heard to tell she'd had a kid. She told me all about her being arrested the night before, 4 am (I went home at midnight), and how it would get her in trouble with her parole. She said there are fewer girls, most are in jail, but when I asked her if they moved to a new area, she changed the subject. She showed me the station where she was booked the night before. Nice station.

The service was so-so. As always she wanted to get me off as soon as possible, hopefully with her mouth, and was very quiet during the session. I know her mind was someplace else, trying to keep herself out of the session, but a bit too mechanical for me.

I asked for digits, but alas, her cell phone was stolen. Might be interesting to hear a new story some day.

I dropped her off, back pack and all, near where I found her, and I went on my way.

All in all, maybe I shoulda been less interested in looks, she could've been my daughter, and gone more for experience.

Anyway, KA rocks for the SW, you lucky guys. I'll be back again next month.

Trying to be a good neighbor.

[Tech Man]

Cruised the Ave last week. Picked up Courtney on Vengano. 20 for BBBJ. Very nice job, small tits, but very young looking. She said she was 21 but I was thinking more like 19-19. Do alot of my cruising between 10am-2pm, not alot of LE and a good collection of girls mostly WSW, between 5-7. Does anyone know where Krista is? She is tall reddish hair and very thin. I heard she might be locked up.

Any info would be appreciated.

Good luck and stay safe.

[ExtremeSex]

Black,

I have to agree with you 100% on Jessica, she is a great girl, just wish she could manage her habit. She is cute, smart, funny, and provides excellent service.

Another good choice is Janet, blonde 20ish WSW hangs around Torresdale & Errie. Another who provides exceptional service.

Both these girls prefer regulars, and their service is a notch above what you would expect on the Ave.

I've noticed several new faces on the avenue lately, that's promising.

[Lion]

Stopped by Heaven at 1800 Ludlow for the first time around 9pm on Wed.

Walked in like I knew what time it was, and mamasan took me to a room. I told her young, thin and pretty, since Shogun had not impressed me the last time out.

"Ai" came in and fit the bill-a 8 or 9 perhaps. She is Korean, like all the girls there I think, and her real name is something like Chi Han Chen (but don't quote me on that). A bit taller than usual at 5'6-7", age 24-26, with natural B tits and great smile. Her English was only fair, but she giggled a lot and called me Honey.

Paid $50 for shampoo and massage. Shampoo was good-I was cold though and she got concerned and turned up the water temp. I skipped the sauna since that would have been solo. Massage lasted about 15-20 minutes and was decent. I tried to make a move but she told me "not now- massage time". When that finished I got up and reached for my $, but she thought I was leaving and told me to lie back down.

She came back in 2-3 minutes, stripped quickly and gave me a nice tongue massage and CBJ. A bit of DATY, then onto the main action. She was good and responsive, and I held back for as long as possible-but finally let go.

We chatted a bit in broken English until the hour was up. She was happy I spoke slowly, since a lot of guys speak too fast and she can never understand them. She wanted English practice and may have been up for meeting me outside, but I was in town only briefly. I told her I'd be back next trip, but she planned to go back to English school in San Francisco soon. Too bad.

She helped me get dressed and I slipped her $100. She never asked for it, which makes me think this is a new way to avoid LE problems. Of course no legit LE would fuck and then arrest, so they are pretty safe once the guys clothes are off I think.

As I left she and the mamasan were quite nice. I saw one other girl in the hall who was also a looker, only shorter and smaller all around. My advice is to wear a suit, go in sober, and speak slowly in order to get a premium experience.

[JohnnyBlazze]

Black,

Did you date the girl that looks Indian, does she hang around the Ave. do you have any contact info on her? If so please send me a private message via the WSG Forum's Private Messaging system.

Thanks,

Johnny

[Banshee]

Sorry guys, I know this is probably a common question but what are the areas for someone to shop for SWs in Phily? I'll be coming to town soon for a business trip and would like to check things out.

Any other tips on the Phily scene would also be greatly appreciated.

Banshee

[Jim in Philly]

Hi Guys,

This past Sunday I went to Ridge Spa on Ridge Avenue by the Ikea in Conshohocton. They just opened about 3 weeks ago and I was hopeful that it would be a great place. I called before going and was told that there were 3 women working and that I could pick. I went to the spa and please don't be confused there is a ridge spa in in house right on the corner of the ikea turnoff but the ridge spa that you want is just next to it in the little strip of shops around back. After walking up to the spa I was buzzed in and I did have my choice of women. I selected Judy who was probably late 20's (who can tell?) and about a 7. She took me to a room and I disrobed, she came in gave me a towel and then we went to shower. I laid on a table while she washed me and she paid alot of attention to my cock and to my ass, it was really nice. It took about 20 minutes. She stayed completely clothed. We then went back to the room and while the door was open she gave me a massage for another 20 minutes often brushing my cock with her hand. I asked her if I could tip her for extras and she then closed the door and immediately went to work on my cock. I asked her to undress but she said that she couldn't but she did allow me to play with her breasts through her clothes and underneath her shirt. I was so excited by that point that I came within just a few minutes at which point she cleaned me up and gave me another short massage. While no tip was asked for I did give her an extra $20. While it wasn't what I wanted it was still nice and I will probably go back sometime soon since it is close to where I live.

Have fun.

[Kilgore Trout #2]

IchiBan Report #2

Kilgore went back to the Ichi last Saturday night, about 4 AM. When Kilgore arrived he noticed a group of rowdy young men, probaly in early twentites, standing at the Ichi entrance. The woman at the door would not let them in, and stated that they were closed. The obviously drunk young men then proceeded to yell and carry on. I decided to come back another time becuase I did not want to be associated with them. Does anyone know if the IchiBan actually closes? Is it open 24/7? I assumed the mamasan was lying about being closed becuase she didn't want a bunch a rowdy drunk young kids in there.

Kilgore returned the following evening. The mamasan immediately recognized me and asked if I would like to see Toni again. I was going to try something new, but decided to try Toni again (since the first time was so good). Needless to say, Toni was happy to see Kilgore. Whenever Kilgore goes to an AMP, he only brings the essentials: $150. Kilgore always removes credit cards and such from his wallet prior to entering. However, on this night Mr. Trout only had 2 hundreds and didn't feel like driving around the city for exact change. After paying the initial 50$, Toni brought Kilgore his 50$ change. During Kilgore's massage Toni asked, "you tip Toni if she does good?"--Kilgore does not like this kind of pandering and was taken back by such a question (Kilgore was upset with himself for bring extra cash). After being asked a second time kilgore said, "Yes, but only if very good".

After the massage Toni proceed to kiss her way to my dick, she then began giving Kilgore a great BBBJ (Kilgore however does not like BBBJs with pros) so I politely nugged her--she then put on a condom and continued the BJ. Sex was great again. Multiple positions, for at least 20 mins: missionary, doggy, doggy with her flat on belly, missionary again, then finished with her riding (she was great on top and really got into it). When we finished she once again wanted to cuddle. We laid together for about 10 minutes while touching each other all over. Then she said are you ready again? This made Kilgore very happy. She began giving Kilgore a great HJ after about 5 minutes she began licking my head while jerking hard--this was incredible. After another 5 minutes of this I exploded--some went into her mouth, it was obvious she did not expect it.

After getting dressed she made a reference to the tip (which she definitely deserved). She knew exactly what Kilgore had 2 twenties and a ten. Kilgore was not sure how much she expected. As I flipped through my wallet, Toni said "you don't have to give alot just a little"--this was a refreshing change from the typical money sponges that work at these places. Kilgore gave her a 20$ and she was very happy. Once again, another great experience.

I love variety, but I will be tempted to get Toni the next time. how can I turn down two pops for the price of one--and I assume the next time I will get the same treatment. This is the FIRST time Kilgore used the same girl twice, has anyone ever had a similiar experience? Do they always treat you better if your a repeat customer? Has anyone ever hooked-up with one of these girls outside of the AMP? If I see her again I will try and set something up.

Any news on Callowhill? has any tried it out lately?

Keep the posting coming fellas!

[Black]

Johnny -

She lives on New Orleans about 6 houses in on the left from Kessington ave. it is the house without a number on it. She is upstairs. She walks around that block in the eveining she said, very cute. No marks and sweet ass. I am terrible with names when I don't care and for the most part if I don't document this stuff right after it happens I forget. Sorry I can't be more helpful

[Mr Parker]

I cruised K Friday night, around 7-8pm and again between 1-2am.

The streets were dead, very few ladies, little or no LE, mostly toughs just hanging around. Drove by NOB, not sure a really good spot for a cracker. Saw a few fine looking ladies around Moet and past posts indicate it's worth the trip. Again, not sure if I would be welcome. Any ideas?

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[ExtremeSex]

Freeway, are you telling us that the woman in the photo is working at Ichiban? If so I would love to get her name.

[ExtremeSex]

Kilgore, great report!

Could you provide a description of Tori?

[ExtremeSex]

Banshee,

SW's can be found on Kensignton Ave. DO a search on mapquest for Kensington and Alleghaney, and you should be able to find it. Don't expect much in the way of looks, most of these girls are downright scary.

I would reccomend instead that you try out one of the Philly AMPs on your visit. You cna find a complete listing in the back of the City Paper, which is found on almost every street corner in the city.

[ExtremeSex]

Freeway, Heaven is in center city. on 18th street just off of market street.

[ExtremeSex]

Black, this indian girl, does she wear a denim jacket? I've noticed this girl walking around a lot lately, but she doesn't look at all like a SW.

[PhillyBoys]

FINALLY! after 14 years of street Hunting, I've finally found a perfect 10! ON the K.

WSW 19/5'8/120 first time out on street. offer.75 for bbbj (expensive on K), it was so good, I ask her to stay over night for $$$. If she is not hooked on drug, I'll ask her to be my wife...Oh well. She told me she just out tonight to see how is like out in the street, but think she is planing to work for one of high-class escort service next month.

Over all spent $$$.75, she makes the girls from www.*********.net look like 5-6's

[eastsideguy]

Mr. Parker,

Absolutely fine to visit Moet and NOB. I also was concerned but I've been there many times with no problems.

[Lion]

1800 Ludow is between Chestnut and Market. Very easy to find, although Ludlow is a small street. Just go up 18th and park around Chestnut.

[Dutch Treat]

COMPARISON SHOPPING – Heaven

Short review: Worth it.

Long review:
As a monger from DC who will be visiting the Philly area for a bit (followed this board for some time), I’ve decided to do some comparison shopping, starting with Heaven. As my AMP gold standards, I’ll use my past experiences at the Downtown in DC (unbelievable PSE action including full deep anal rimming, toe suck, etc. - see my posts on the DC board from October), Golden Flower in San Francisco (an unbelievable line-up, but somewhat mechanical action and no shower), and the Blue Fox in Philly (a local standard, RIP).

Heaven is at 1800 Ludlow. Short flight of stairs up, and into a typical AMP interior. Rooms in Heaven are a bit larger and cleaner than most. Older mamasan introduced me to Chi-Chi (pronounced she-she). Cute face, slender, about 5’5”, A/B cup breasts, looked to be in her twenties (she claimed she was 24). 7- face; 7-8 body (if you like small breasts with small, dark, pert nipples, tight ass, long legs). English was ok, and she was fairly chatty in a nice way. Shower was average. Massage that followed lasted 15 minutes, which was nice, but somewhat light in touch. Then, curiously, Chi-Chi, asked if I would massage her. Interesting, and I obliged allowing me to get a full sense of her backside (tight back, nice ass) for about 5 minutes. Then snuggled down and got full DFK. Very nice. After undressing, more message to my back, followed by slow tongue lick up my leg, to a fairly decent rim session (not as deep or as long in DC, but never got this at the BF or GF). After a flip, average CBJ, followed by a reverse for CBJ with enthusiastic DATY – lovely small bush with very lubbed pussy - dark entryway with even darker thin lips, but a very cute pink clit – nice. Fingering of her cute browneye led me to believe she was not up for Greek. Finished it off with missionary, raised doggie style, flat doggie style, and more missionary (with DATY and DFK in between). Fairly enthusiastic, but not as tight as some. Good finish that was not rushed, with some GFE with cuddling at end.

In sum, Heaven is worth it. No line up (like the Golden Flower), not quite a PSE (like the Downtown), but rim, DATY, DFK, and full selection of positions. Better than the Blue Fox, and way better than the ratholes that surround the convention center, that are constantly changing their names.

Next stop: Ichi Ban – can it really measure up?

[CC Boy]

Kilgore,

Thanks to you for all the good info on 42B. Very impressive. I went in and asked for Toni based on your reccomendations. I found out that they are open from 10:00AM to 3:00AM.

Toni looked very good. Wearing a slutty little dress with her chest hanging out. I give her body a good 8.5, and her face a 6. And I agree with Kilgore- her lips are sultry.

She took me in and gave me a nice shower, followed by a quick stay in the Sauna. She took me back to the room, gave me a nice massage and was big in grinding her pussy into my back. After she had me flip, she whispered to me to see if I wanted more. I said yes and she motioned for me to get my money. I grabbed $100 (again, thank you Kilgore) and handed it off. She quickly went down on me with her ass up against a mirror so I could watch her from all angles. She gave a great CBJ and slid it on with her mouth which was pretty impressive. While she was performing, she untied her dress.

She then leaned back and offered a nice FS with her legs up on my shoulders. After, she laid besides me and we felt each other for about 10 minutes. She got me cleaned up and dressed and I was out. Oh- the woman who came to let me out was smoking hot, kinda young, but very hot. I might have to look her up next time. However it will be tough knowing that Toni is so accomidating.

Again- Kilgore, thanks for the intel.

[CC Boy]

Freeway,

At 42B/Ichi, what other names of girls have you had? I am curious who else is impressive outside of Toni. Any suggestions?

[Rumbler]

Does anyone have anything on 216North 13th St?

They say you need an appt. What is it called and what is the number? Anyone with an experience there.

Let us know!

[Kilgore Trout #2]

Heaven Report #2

Kilgore returned to Heaven last weekend, about 3am on a Sat. night. The mamasan did not recognize me. I asked for YouMe, who I had a great experience with last time (as documented on this site)--but was told she no longer works there. Kilgore asked for a lineup but did not get one; however, the girl who was brought in was cute enough for Kilgore. I forget her name. She was petite with a tight body, and fake breasts--just the way Kilgore likes 'em. The only flaw with her body was her very knobby knees and a large scar on the back of her shoulder.

The girl spoke little english and seemed to be all business. As soon as we were in the room alone she said, "you need shower?"--this was a bad sign. Kilgore doesn't always like showers but he should be the one turning it down, not her. It was obvious she wanted to skip the shower, and for that reason Kilgore said, "yes, shower please". The shower was rushed, with little small talk.

Back to the room, the massage was one of the worst I've ever had. Lasted less than 10 minutes and was flat out bad. Kilgore had sex in multiple positiona. As usual, Kilgore lasted long time--close to 20 minutes. While taking her from behind she said, "you almost done?" Kilgore hates being rushed, completely ruins the moment. After forcing himself to an early completion Kilgore quickly began dressing. While dressing the girl said, and I quote, "why you take so long?"--with the tone in her voice sounding like I had a problem. I explained to her I took long becuase I was TRYING to enjoy myself.

It was one of my worst AMP experiences ever. Hard to believe there was such a difference in experiences from 2 sessions there less than a month apart. Either my first girl YouMe was really good, or maybe I just got stuck with a girl with a bad attitude at 3am? Either way, I will be going to the Ichi for now on, or until someone tells me of a new spot to check out.

Any news on Callowhill? Has anyone tried it lately? Any new AMPs in the city? Lets get this board moving fellas!

[Dutch Treat]

Rumbler,

Was at 216 N 13th under whatever name it went by back then about 4 months ago - sucks. Worst AMP experience ever with a 40 y/o saggy, unenthusiastic provider. Unless something radical has changed there would avoid at all cost.

[ExtremeSex]

Rumbler, no appointment is necessary, but if it's your first time, its better if you call first, they will want to know what time you are coming.

I went once, but left because I didn't like the girl they brought me. They seemed short staffed at the time, so I wasn't offered another choice, I said I would stop back another time (never did).

I believe the place is called Midori, but I might be getting it confused with another one. 215 563-8987

[ExtremeSex]

Freeway,

Sunset is in Cheltenham, I forget the exact address.

Kings Spa, is at the Blvd & Rising Sun (where the old sears used to be)

A few I'm not familiar with:

Queen Spa 9150 Marshall St.
Sunflower 247 Clarion (no idea where this is)
Best Oriental 46 N 10th
Ocean Spa ????
Ridge Spa Plymouth meeting
Mona Spa

[Carbon]

So what about city paper ads? Anyone ever tried them? There is number of outcall services in the newspaper.

[Ghost Man]

I tried the new AMP Ridge Spa last week. I received an altogether excellent massage ... very strong and enthusiastic. No FS or BJ there .. although a playful HJ was had for a modest tip (although none requested). My attendant was "Ginny", nice but aging (35 or so) .. 6 on a 10 scale. Noticed "Judy" who I would rate a 7. A bit expensive at $70 for the hour, but the place was very clean and convenient to the burbs. The place is close to the Blue Route exit on Ridge Ave.

[CC Boy]

Made it to Ichi today. Stopped in around 10:30 AM. The Mamasan met me at the door and made small talk while leading me to first room on left. This room, similar to the first I had been in was setup the same: Place to put shoes, and clothes, and of course the mirror on the wall. Took notice that the mirror was on the same side as the entrance, so no fear about it being two way. (Gotta keep an eye out for LE)

She left and brought back a young korean girl with long black hair, standing about 4 foot 10 inches. Nice face, not a whole lot for tits though. Face-8, body-6. She smiled and helped me undress. She wrapped me in a towel and took me down to the shower room. I noticed the red boots that Kilgore mentioned in a previous post sitting on the floor, however she did not put them on. Instead, she took off her high heels and slipped into some flip flops. Shower was nice. No conversation to speak of however she payed nice attention to my ass and balls.

After standing, she dried me off and blew on my cock and looked up at me and smiled. I then went into the Sauna. Good selction of magazines, and good chance to warm up.

She came to get me and lead me back to the room we started at. This time I laid the $100 bill out on the white shelf before we started. I dont like the "break in action" just to get the cash.

She gave me a decnt massage for about 15 minutes and then had me flip. With that, she brushed her hair along my cock while looking up at me. She kissed and stroked my cock unitl it got hard and then slid a condom on with her mouth. (Still impressive!)

She gave a nice CBJ followed my multiple positions. My favorite being doggy style while watching her tits in the mirror. She also did a great job of feeling her pussy and my cock with her hand while I was inside her.

Afterwards, she took the money and helped me get dressed. She asked me to come back soon, and I was out.

Over all, Ichi has it going on. I will be a repeat customer unless one of your fellas can offer up somewhere better. I was sorry to hear Kilgores report on Heaven. I was going to give a shot until I read the review.

Keep 'em coming.

[Lion]

Tried a City Paper ad and the girl (Candy-black about 35yrs) was living in a dump of a place in a bad neighborhood. Paid $150 for "a full hour" thinking I could get a couple shots in, but after letting go it was bye-bye. She was good though, and liked to talk dirty a bit.

[eastsideguy]

Found Carla last night at the Dunkin Donuts in K. 23 yrs old, very slim (a teenie), dirty blonde hair. Excellent deep bbbj. Gave her my number and she called today to see if I wanted to get together with her and her girlfriend. Well I just got back from that little adventure. Went to the Carlyle (wow, what a dive). $30 for the room for 1 hour. They wanted $130 each but settled for 65 each for FS. They were really into each other. I wouldn't repeat the action, but I would meet Carla alone again.

[Mr Parker]

East Side Guy,

Where exactly is Dunkin Donuts in "K"?

Thanks,

[Kilgore Trout #2]

"Hey Kilgore,

What other AMPs have you been to besides the good Ichi Ban and Heaven?

And how do they match up?"

Freeway,

The AMPs I've visited recently were Shogun, Ichi and Heaven--all of which I've posted reports on. In the past I used to frequent Blue Fox, was my personal favorite. Also, went to Lemana on Ludlow--I think that actaully may be Heaven now (their always changing owners and name). Callowhill was great, but those days are gone. Back in the day I used to just pick up the city paper and try new spots, I'm less adventurous now--I prefer going to places I KNOW will be good.

Let's check out some new spots and keep the postings going. Any news on Blue Fox or Callowhill?

[York]

Please post a phone number for Heaven at 1800.
The old number for 1800 is not in service.
If you have both local and 800, please post.
I want to schedule an appoinment.
Any chance the mamasan is Joann or Lily from Callowhill?

[eastsideguy]

Mr. Parker,

Dunkin Donuts is at Kensington and Torresdale, next to the high school. By the way, did you ever get to try Moet? I think it was you that was inquiring about it.

[PhillyBoys]

Alright man, this ain't cool!

I was sitting in a dinner near mayfair Northeast. Over heard 3 LE talking about "WordSexGuide". Man what the Fu*K. Let just keep the details to youself. I think if you from out of town or you don't know where to look, it is not safe for outer towner to be driving around K lookin'.

Anyway, here is Undercover LE update on K

Look out for:

White 1990 Chevey truck
White 1999? Vitoria
Black 1995? Cavalier

All have municipal tag and they come in pairs. I think Reno911 really depict Philly cops.

After Street is re-elected, they might loosen its grip on the k, but still becareful.

Peace out!

[CC Boy]

York,

Any reason you are going to Heaven as opposed to Ichi? Do you know something we dont? If you look at Kilgore's last post on Heaven, it should steer us all away.

Let us know your results.

[Willing To Pay]

Just met a girl name Angel from up around Allentown. We hooked up for a session in Quakertown. Blonde, 21 about 5’6” thin and a great F…..Average size tits, nice ass. F/S Rate 100/ hr, 150 for two. Man she was sweet. She goes to school during the day and works a couple nights a week for rent money. She is new at this, has a manager that is pretty easy to get along with. Not a druggie, really worked hard for her money. What a deal. If anyone is interested, let me know. She will only come down as far as Quakertown.


Willing

[Knite]

I've been checking out the forum and decided to try out Ichiban first. The mama-san let me inside and introduced me to Toni. (sp?) I give her face a 5 and body a 7. I didn't want any from her so I bailed and checked out Heaven.

Man, am I glad that I bailed. The mama-san introduced me to this korean girl. I forget her name. She was very cute, a 9. She claimed to be 25 and looked 20. She claimed to be very new (she said I was her first customer) We went to get a table shower together, then went back to the room to get an ok massage. Afterwards, she she gave me a CBJ and returned the favor by DATY. We went multiple positions and finished doggy.

Afterwards we started to cuddle and joke around a little bit. She liked spanking my ass, so we started to spank each other. Very silly girl, which is good. A definite GFE.

Highly recommend this place. I'm gonna start avoiding Ichiban from now on.

[Msaunders6969]

Hey Willing,

Let me know the info on Angel!

Thanks

M

[Litigator]

Willing to pay,

I would be interested in angel. Please let me know how to meet her. Please contact me via a private message using the WSG Forum's Private Message service.

Thanks

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[Mack Mittens]

Listen Mongers,

You players better stay away from Angel. I been hearing some foul shit about that one. I don't know if it's true. Knite, What do you mean you are going to stay away from the Ichi?? You won't be dissapointed when Kim arrives, Give it another go, Kilgore even chose Ichi over Heaven.

[Sam Katz]

I've been feeling a bit down lately.

Anyone have any good AMP suggestions?

What happened to Blue Fox?

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[City Guy #2]

First time writer here. I dunno what ever possessed me to get into the whole scene. Maybe its all the drama with women or wutever but jus plain sex is so much easier this way :) LOL Anyway on to my experiance.

A few months ago I was driving on Germantown near the hospital and I saw a LSW flashing plain as day. I went past then turned around and looked again and pulled a u-turn and finally stopped. She got into the car and we negotiated 60 for FS and I must say she was atleast an 8 very attractive. She said she had a place but I would have to pick her up later. Never seen her since unfortunatly.

Next stop was on the K from Alleghany. I had just found it. I drove for maybe 5 min (I was on break from work) on a Friday night around 2 am and I saw a bombshell get booted out of a car. From afar wouldve rated it a 9 but she was old maybe a 6 up close but I picked her up right on K (stupid of me dont EVER do this cuz LE is everwhere) I've gotten stopped so many times for dumb things. I never got into any trouble tho I guess I dont look like the type to be pickin up SW but regardless I gave this gurl like 12 bucks for BBJ and I pretty much grabbed her head and slammed it up and down for like 5 minutes LOL because she was just goin way to slow. Anyway she got tired quick so we pulled off and I dropped her off. We parked somewhere I dunno way off where not even a cricket chirped. She was bad tho blonde nice bod but prolly nasty when naked she said she worked off her phone didnt bother gettin the ##.

Next experiance was a bit after that on a wednesday night. Oh man this night was SW EVERYWHERE and sooo obvious at that. Way down on K where it curves right about the bridge area after the seven elev there was like a latin squad just hangin and I have to say some of them were gorgeous atleast 8-9's very nice. After driving past them bout 9-10 times and seeing many get scooped I turned in the street b4 the bridge area and the best walked over to my car. At least a 9 with clothes on huge D's and fatty on her. Said she was 19, I believed her, and she wanted 240 for 1 hr FS and these girls looked pro with their 2-way nextels and whole squad lookin out for them seemed legit so I talked her down to 150 and we went to a place of the boulevard hourly rates 30 trashy but good enough. Was very nice personable girl. got to the place and she was naked ASAP and started with the CBJ for bout 6-7 min then started FS which was a total crock of BS cuz she "had" to keep a hand on the wrapper to make sure it didnt come off then said it was hurting to much etc etc basically I wasted my 180 and didn't even let my boys out. Been on K a lot since then no action really cept some nasty ones I'd rate 2-3.

1 night was at the sev not the one on K but right behind it with my GF around 2 am and OMG this brunette atleast a 9 was inside went out to her car jus waited. I FELT SOOOOOO DUMB because I couldn't even do nuthin and I know she was a good one. I would've approached her but WTF. I messed up bringin my GE because she wanted to see the "SW" cuz we from furthur out in the burbs like 30 min away from N Philly.

Since then nuthin but crusin and carefully at that. LE pulls you over left and right for everything so I suggest driving flawlessly. I'm thinking about heading over to Heaven or the Ichi Ban soon to check out how that experiance is? I'm guessing the typical rate is 150 there? I dunno but sounds ok. I'm not exactly sure of directions but I have some vague ones. I'd really like to know of some BSW cuz I've never been with 1 and I'd like to experiance it but I wanna steer away from the nasty ones. The LSW I spoke to said they had gurls on almost every street from K to Lehigh? I don't know about that as I havent seen SW anywhere but K except for a few.

I've been thinking about heading to NJ or DE but before I do I'm definatly going to check out an AMP either heaven or the ichi ban but im seeing mixed reviews by you all so I guess Ill try both. Whats good times to go? morning or night? Also the gurl angel I would be very interested in getting info on her? Possible to post a phone? or EMAIL?

How do you use the WSG messaging service? Dunno so far. Anyway hope my info helped out!

Good cruisin to everyone.

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[Jacken]

I once heard of an AMP near 309 in Colmar (north of the montgomery mall). Can anyone provied me with information about this place? Location or a # would be great. I need to drop the GF off at the mall for some shoping and would love to kill and Hr or 2 there befor heading back.

Thanks

[ExtremeSex]

Knite, any other details on this little asian babe?

Since you don't have a name, a description would help a lot.

[Kang]

Hello,

I was wondering if anyone has ever tried the AMP called Kobe? It's just outside of West Philly. Let me know.


Thanks

[Knite]

Mack Mittens,

When is Kim coming to Ichi? Right now, I'm in San Dog checking out the Tijuana scene, so I might be back to Philly in December. I hope she will be worth it.

ExtremeSex,

It's kinda hard to describe her, but I'll try. I think her name is somthing like Jin Jae Min. She said it so fast, I could barely catch it. She is about 5'5", straight black hair, and petit. I'll try to find out more when I come back.

[Timber Tree]

Willing to pay,

Can you PM me the infomation about Angel?

Thanks!

Timbertree

[daty guy]

I went to Club Moet last Wednesday night. I got there early (around 9:30 PM.) There were a few girls there. All black and good locking.

All that offered was couch dances. I had a few.

I was told that VIP rooms weren't open at this time.

Does antone have any info about the status of the VIP rooms?

I didn't stick around very long. I was out of there before 11:00 PM

[ExtremeSex]

Mack Mittens, what have you heard about Angel?

[Mack Mittens]

ExtremeSex,

Ah, Angel A.K.A. "The Whale". Don't let her fool you.

I heard she has more crabs then red lobster boy! I don't know if its true but watch out! don't think she don't got them since shes shaved. Also it is rumored that she has the Clap!

ExtremeSex, use ExtremeCaution.

[CC Boy]

Kilgore,

Where are you at? I have been looking for a few posts from you on your AMP experiences. What is the latest?

[JohnnyBlazze]

Aside for Club Moet and NOB, is there any other spots that compare to D&L. Does NOB have a private room, I have only seen the open couch area, this prevents any real fun from happening. Not sure if club moet is the same way. Also it really sucks that NOB doesn't serve drinks or allow you to smoke everywhere. And everytime I've been there - I've been disappointed with the outcome, I gues there will never be another D&L.

Johnny

[Sam Katz]

Around 2 A.M. I was traveling down 4th st and around Cuyuga and I spotted a beautiful girl. I didn't know if she was a SW for sure so I pulled up and talked to her. She said used to be an escort in New Jersey and man did she look like an escort! About 5 5 , 110lbs, she was hispanic though but very sexy 9 face 9 body. She quoted 80 dollars for FS, i took this deal in a heartbeat. She was great BBJ DATY doggy and everything at her place a couple blocks down.

All in all I will be returning to this area.

This was the best SW I have ever seen and got the opportunity to do her!

Keep the posts coming.

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[Milf1968]

I just visited Playhouse in NJ Rte 130N. Depending on the girl you can get HJ. VIP room is $30 per song. Usually it takes 2 songs to get the job done.

Good luck and have some fun.

[Rumbler]

Anyone been to 875 1/2 Townshipline Rd. just over the Cottman Ave side of Philly-I think it is Cheltenham township?

[hallowolverine]

There's a new club which opened last month. i cant remmember the name but i heard about it through my yahoo groups. it's on germantown just north of hunting park. It's only open on thursdays, fridays and saturdays from 9-2am. I'm going tomorrow to peep it out. I'lll tell you about it. I got to find a new D&L type spot. One thing i dont like so far is that LDs are $15.

[ExtremeSex]

Sam Katz, did you get any contact info?

I met a girl named Jeanie around Erie/Torresdale. $60 FS, real GFE, I suspect she's doing something but she doen's have the crackwhore look just yet. She looks around 19, blonde, thin.

We went to a hotel, and spent a nice relaxing hour together. She is really a sweet girl, and she is worth every penny. She was better then some $$$ escorts I've used.

[ThePerson]

Hey Extreme,

Do you have any contact info on Jeanie. I would love to give her a try if you dont mind. PM if you prefer. Thanks.

[Sam Katz]

I could not get any contact info.

But I will try to find her again around the her street if she really lives there.

Anybody been to Best Oriental or Kings Sauna?

How is it?

Or Spaexit?

www.spaexit.com

I'm not going to try any of these places until I heard some good reviews.

Keep the posts coming!

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[Tech Man]

How's it going fellas? Went cruising the Ave again last Monday. Usually I have no trouble finding a decent girl, but, alas, no one was out. I was making my final pass when I saw "Jessica". Short, WSW, alittle on the chubby side, but cute. I picked her up in front of the El station on Torresdale. We agreed on 20 for a BBBJ. She was actually very good, she played with my nuts and rubbed my thigh, which you rarely ever get. She told me that she always hangs out on that corner.

I also have a question for all the guys trolling the Ave, have you notice alot of new girls out there? I don't know if it is me or what, but during the day I have seen atleast 10 new girls over the past two weeks. Well stay safe and good luck out there.

[Lion]

I had someone private message me, and I thought I might as well answer publically, since the info may be of interest to others:


I've got a real weakness for Korean women. I've recently been worried that these girls are some sort of slaves. Why do they come here? Is it that bad in Korea?

I really enjoy my visits to these places but feel guilty every time. Are these place some how connected to organized crime?

I just can't get my brain around the fact that some one as beautiful as **, who is also clearly very bright, moving to the US and becoming a ***** voluntarily. It just doesn't add up.

Maybe I'm naive.

MY ANSWER:
I understand your concern, but you are a bit naiive.

I agree that Korean women can be really fun. They are more animated than Japanese, more honest than Chinese, and less money-grubbing than Thais. Korea is a developed country, and there is work, but for a beautiful woman who wants to make some cash, the sex industry is a sure way (just as it is in the USA-look at all the $300/hr escorts on eros.com!).

Some Koreans who come here may be tricked into it, but some I have met did the same work in Japan until they got kicked out for overstaying their visas. Koreans can visit the USA fairly easily, and a roundtrip flight can be around $500, so I think it's not usually a case of "slavery" in which they owe a ton of money to someone just to get here. The ones who don't speak English tend to get tired of the USA scene faster, since they can't enjoy the city. But that is normal for anyone with a language problem in a new country.

Someone a while back posted that AMP girls can make $100,000/year, and even double that or more.

So keep enjoying them, and if you find one who will spend time with you for free, by all means go for a date. But beware they may want some serious commitment before they give up their $500/day job.

[18Wheels12Roses]

Hello Philly, I haven’t been back here for over a year now. I posted about a particular escort that I enjoyed and was chastised by one of your posters; but, who am I to hold a grudge. I am only here for the night so I thought I would try out one of the Strip Clubs on the Jersey side. After reading your posts I decided on The Play House. Not the best of places I have been or the worse. Little did I know the stage would be behind the bar. The girls all walk around and solicit that dollar from you with a lot of grinding and small talk, this more than made up for the distant stage show! As recommended, I opted for the $30 VIP dances. As usual, different girls had different qualities of friction dances. I spent a small fortune in here! At least two months payment on a 'vette and was never offered any of the side action (although the dances were worth the $$). I left a little disappointed as the place closed. Sitting in my vehicle talking to my GF (a dancer in OKC and a 10 in my book), the little lady who gave me my last set of 5 dances knocked on the window. I took her to the little dinner south of the club for some breakfast and conversation. On the way back to her car she gave me one of the best BBBJ I think I have ever had. Question? Since the only money I gave her was in the club for the dances, does this qualify as side action? Anyway guys, I just wanted to let you all know that I still feel the Love in (and around) Philly. I will be back in December so please post some more on the club scene.

[Sam Katz]

Hey Lion,

Your response to a question does not seem all correct. The Korean AMP workers are basically slaves to the mamasan here in Philly. They work on tip and they basically live at the AMP. Most of the time they either owe somebody money here in Philadelphia or back in Korea. I know some girls that have been asked to work at an AMP so it is possible they are not slaves and just doing it for extra money. The sex industry in Korea is very open and there are over a million in Korea that work as sex workers, slaves or not. The ones that don't get that much money in Korea in my opinion are the ones that come here and work at AMPs. They are 100% against doing foriegners in Korea so i guess it's the ones that aren't getting so much business in Korea. Korean girls are very conservative and don't turn into AMP girls overnight. These girls have an important reason for coming to the US in the first place whether it's going to school or visiting or making money. Nobody is tricked into it. And Organized Crime? yes it exists right now in Philadelphia with Koreans but i don't think its connected to AMPs.

How do I know this?

I'm Korean and lets just say I was told even once by an AMP girl.

[Mack Mittens]

Has anyone been to QB Oriental Spa on Byberry Rd.?

Or the Queen Spa on Marshall St?

If so how was it and what race are the girls?

I just picked up the City Paper there are so many AMPs , much more than the Philadelphia Weekly. I plan to check out Mona Spa, best Oriental and Kings Sauna once I get paid this friday.

Anyways, post your experiences my friends.

MM

[Lion]

Sam,
I am a bit confused by you comments.

Since you agree that Koreans coming willingly and are not forced into the business, why do you think they are "slaves"? To me a slave is someone who has no choice in the matter. I also think that the ones who enter the AMP business in the States are more adventurous types, since as you said they often have palns to go to school or travel, rather than the "ones who don't get much money" in Korea.

While it is true that in Korea many professional sex workers won't service foreign men, it is still VERY easy for a white guy to get laid in Korea. There are delivery sex services where they come to your room, as well as defined red light districts, and then there are lots of girls who just want to find a foreign boyfriend.

[CC Boy]

Sam and Lion,

Why they are here we should not concern ourselves over. Instead, lets discuss which AMP has the best women, the best service and where they are located. Dont over guilt yourselves.

And beyond that, where are Kilgore's latest reports?

Stay safe

CC

[Sam Katz]

Lion,

I understand what you are saying but they are basically slaves to SOMEONE. Money can make any worker more adventurous my friend trust me these women don't enjoy doing what they do for a living. I have talked to AMP girls and they all say they came to the states to make money and some have debts in Korea. Im not saying they are forced in to it but some people just gotta do what they gotta do to make the money. But lets stop all the arguing as CC boy said.

Anyways, I went to the shady allyway with the 1800 sign, yes, I hit up Heaven last night. I got to see the whole house line up of about 7-9 girls, this was my first time at Heaven so i did not know what to expect. I picked the finest girl while my friend picked the second finest girl. Instead of FS i talked my way into just a BJ, no condom, no swallow though. She was overall a 9. Very enthusiastic. I got her cell number so i don't think i will ever have to return.

Anyone else with a good experience at Heaven?

[Sam Katz]

Good Question where is Kilgore? And Freeway?

Freeway was banned for demonstrating a consistent distain for the Forum's Posting Guidelines.

Thanks,

Jackson

[Dutch Treat]

Had so much fun at Heaven (see last post) decided to go back again (after all the negative reviews on Ichiban) and see Chi-Chi again. Good news mongers, house fee at Heaven has dropped to $40! Like my last visit I stopped at Heaven around the lunch hour. Unlike last time, when I heard only one other monger enter, this time five of you partied on in – hope to see all of your reviews too! Actually had to wait five minutes by the TV before Chi-Chi was free. No extras on being a repeat customer, and DFK this time was dropped from the menu. OK asian, decent CBJ with reverse to “69”. At first Chi-Chi wasn’t into it, but something clicked, and then she was all over my face with both her “Y” and her browneye – my tongue didn’t quit hit her cervix, but I’m sure it came close. Then missionary, side-by-side (fun in the mirror to watch, adding to the PSE), raised and flat doggie, and then something I didn’t get around to last time which was cowgirl – what made this fun is that Chi-Chi’s “Y” isn’t all that long, so that as she was “wrangling” me the head of my manhood kept banging into her cervix. For an average-sized guy this always manages to really get me off. Finished with a little cuddle and then an English lesson where Chi-Chi would point to a body part and then name it in English (Lip, tongue, nipple, dick, balls, etc.), reminding me of a X-rated Korean version of Eliza Doolittle. She also taught me the Korean for kiss, which curiously sounds something like “poo-poo” (go figure). She indicated that she would be there through X-mas, so mongers of Philly, go for it! But, lets hear some more reports on the other providers at Heaven as well (the few other girls I saw last time looked pretty hot…).

[JohnnyBlazze]

Hallowolverine,

How was that new spot that you were gonna visit. How did it compare to D&L. What was the name, and where exactly was it?

Johnny

[ExtremeSex]

ThePerson, sorry no contact info for her, but I will try and get it on my next visit with her.

18Wheels12Roses, give a shout before your trip, and we can fill you in. Sounds like you had a good time at PH, a little action outside the place is always a good thing. I think on your next visit you should try and hit the place in the afternoon, the extras are a bit better then.

As far as AMPs go, some are indeed akin to slavery, but most in the city hire girls, who willingly work. I've known several girls who live in the area, and work the amps, and they work there for 1 reason $! They make great money there, period.

Yes there are some shady amps, and some girls working there to pay off debts, and that may be considered slavery. Of course I could consider myself a slave as I'm working 12 hour days to pay off a home, car, credit card bills, kids schooling, etc.

[CC Boy]

Dutch,

Can you tell me what find of cash you had to offer at Heaven? I plan on going this week. I heard the house fee has dropped to $40, however I still want to know if you had to offer up the standard $100 for extra action. Also, please let us know if you are succesfull with the cell phone attempts.

CC

[Kilgore Trout #2]

Sam,

I've been out of action for the last couple of weeks. Have you hooked-up with the girl whose cellphone number you got from Heaven? If so, details.

If possible I'd love to get that number, private message me if you can.

Please provide more of a description for this girl.

Hey guys, why no new reviews of AMPs. I know people are still going. I may go back to Ichi this week; even though I will be tempted to get Toni (two pops for the $ of 1) she is just not attractive enough for me. I think it's time Kilgore tried something new.

[hallowolverine]

I tried to go last thursday, but there was a sign saying it would open the next night at 10. I have to plan these trips so my window was closed. I'm going to try again this thursday. I did go to Kobe that night. I paid 60 and got an old one. I asked for someone else and she gave a rushed table shower but a really good massage. After she gave a hj without me asking. I think this is the norm because last time i went the mamasan said no sex. I didnt tip and left.

[Kang]

Hey Guys,

Just wanted to tell you about Sunflower Spa. I think that's what it's called. Right off of vine just before 12st I think. First time I went there I had a nice girl with the name Melissa(I think). She was a chubby, but it was enjoyable. It was $50 for massage and $100 for FS. I had a good time and the experience was more like a GFE. Second time going looking for Melissa, but mama-san said she left to visit Korea. Had a girl about 5'1" and petite. Not too old. Had a nice time. Wasn't the greatest thought. Hopefully I will check Heaven this weekend. I will write another post when I do. Keep the post coming!

Thanks

[hallowolverine]

The club is at 4205 germantown ave. If you travel north on germantown its on the right after you cross hunting park under a red canopy.

[Sam Katz]

The house charge is dropped to 40 at Heaven?

I got charged 50 this Sunday night!

Oh well, I got 10 service with a 9 girl.

Heaven is the best AMP period.

[Sam Katz]

Which AMP does everyone else think has the hottest girls?

[CC Boy]

Kilgore- it is good to see your name back on the board. I look forward to hearing your weekend activiites.

I still dont know what all the negative press is about Ichi. It seems that it is still a home run every time somone visits. I agree with Kilgore that Toni is very impressive and big on service. Has anyone been to Ich and dealt with a different girl? I am very interested since the last time I was there and was walked to the door by a very young looking girl. She was wearing slippers and seemd very cute. I was hoping somone picked up her name and any experiences with her.

[ExtremeSex]

I'd have to say Heaven by far has the best looking girls right now. Then again they've alwasy been know for good looking girls there, but service was always something of a mixed bag.

Now with all the other good amps closed, Heaven is probably the safest bet.

[Sam Katz]

Kilgore,

No I have not tried to meet outside Heaven with this girl(im going to keep the name out) yet. But when I do I will ask if she would be OK with me giving out her personal cell phone number because as of now i'm the only one with it I think. Kilgore, I have read previous posts by you about Heaven but you have to go back. From the house line up I saw, atleast 8 out of 10 were HOT. And the other 2 were still OK. The service was more then great, and there were a few others in the lineup who could be next. 2 pops for the price of one??? But I heard Toni had a 5-face. I say give Heaven another go and do what i did and ask for the contact my friend.

Happy hunting everybody.

[Connaisseur]

Gentle Phillymongers...

Hailing from the MD board, but on the verge of a trip to Philly; thought I would sample some local cuisine while in town - AMPs are my preferred diet. I read with interest the reports on Heaven, Ichiban, Sunflower, etc. and was wondering if you could recommend one of these places more than another. Also, I am not too familiar with the local geography; any place close to downtown/convention center area?

Thanks and Happy Hunting!!

Conn.

[ThePerson]

Hey Connaisseur,

Lol there all by the convention center expect for Heaven which is around 10 blocks down market street at around 18th & Market.

Youll find many AMPs by 12-14th street and vine & race streets. If you would like a few addresses for a mapquest search send me a PM or post.

Have Fun.

[Mikey78]

Hi,

I am flying in Philly from Grenada for a night and I was wondering if someone knew of a good place to fine someone like sw or an escort for the night. I know Kenniston Ave is the place to find sw I read so far. But I was wondering if any of you knew of a girl or place. I do not like the amps so much, rather find one that I can have in a hotel.

[Dutch Treat]

CC Boy and Sam Katz:

In terms of the house fee I mentioned at Heaven, when I gave my provider $50, she brought back $10. Maybe I got charged less as a repeat and/or favored customer.

CC - As always, the standard and appropriate "tip" afterwards is appreciated at Heaven. No need to call in advance.

Sam, I'm curious - if you view the AMP providers as financial "slaves" as per you previous post, why do you continue to visit them?

[York]

To Connaisseur

Please email be at jeffrey041573 at hotmail dot com
for best info

[Sam Katz]

Dutch Treat, and others,

Continue to visit them? Frist of all, that was my first time going to an AMP. I never said I was not going to go because some girls may be in debt. I was just making a point. Your actaully helping the girl out if you go, if they are going to do that anyway you might as well help them get more money. I compared my experience with monger friends of mine and others that have posted on WSG. I feel that Heaven was the best experience. Ichi Ban i heard bad reviews, Sho gun i heard was just horrible and others the same. I got great service, whole house line up, condomless BJ, bust in mouth, was not rushed, very enthusiastic, cell number and she gave me back my $20 tip. Anyways I do not plan on going back because I got the number(BTW has anybody ever got a cell number?). If you guys never got a cell number, you guys should know why I got the number. I did see a few others that were hot in that line up but I will only return if my friends Indianman and KO comes with me this time.

I think Heaven is turning into the next Blue Fox...hope it don't get busted, monger overload can cause this.

Anyways, Happy Hunting Mongers

[18Wheels12Roses]

Hey Extreme,
18Wheels12Roses, give a shout before your trip, and we can fill you in. Sounds like you had a good time at PH, a little action outside the place is always a good thing. I think on your next visit you should try and hit the place in the afternoon, the extras are a bit better then.
Just wanted to say thanks and will do next time. Checking out what kind of trouble I can get into up in Boston right now!

[Khurg]

My first post. I lurked for a day or 2 before deceiding to sign up. I've been cruising K since 1990.

I was out today between 2 and 3pm. I picked up a nice one in KFC parking lot. Her name was Gina, 5'5", 130-140lbs, dark brown hair and eyes. Nice body (7) and nice looks (7). She was not strung out. She said she did not do anything just needed the cash. I haggled a bit but she was firm on $40 for CBJ. I normally would pass but she was cool and pretty damned good looking. She did a real nice job. I told her about the site and she was glad to hear the cruisers are banding together. No phone number. I suggested she get one so it is easier to get a hold of her. Only other gal I saw out was a redhead, looks (3-4) body (5), kinda strung out and looked to be in late 30s. I saw a couple of possibles but they were playing it coy so I could not be sure.

[Kilgore Trout #2]

Kilgore is now considering going back to Heaven this weekend, instead of Ichi. It's true, Kilgore had a great time with YouMe at Heaven a couple months ago (as noted in prev. post); however, Kilgore's return trip was a most unpleasant experience. While on the other hand, Ichi has been consistently good but I haven't seen any stunners there yet.

CC Boy,
The girl you described from Ichi is exactly the way I like them, I wish you knew her name--This only makes my decision that much harder.

Sam Katz,
What are you waiting for? Give this asain cutie a ring, and let us all know how it goes. I've asked multiple times for numbers and never got them--and Kilgore is usually pretty smooth, or so he thinks. What was your approach, what did you say?

Lets get some reviews up here fellas! Kilgore should have a new review shortly.

[Khurg]

As for my second post, a report on Ridge Spa on Ridge Pike in Conshohocken. This place is across the street from the theater and behind Papa John's Pizza. Both ladies that I have seen there are older than the norm for AMP (mid-late 30s). Table shower and massage will set you back $70. I must admit that this was the best massage I have ever gotten at an AMP but this place is strictly HJ only. I tip $30 normally. The ladies will barely let you touch them. Be forewarned. Heaven is much better, even Shogun has this place beat in extras department

[Peedi]

Hello everybody,

I am a new user, a friend of Sam Katz. I went with Sam on sunday night with him to Heaven. This was also my first time at an AMP but definetly not my last. He got to pick the finest girl but I think I got the next best thing. She was in room one? If anybody else had this girl, nice body but small breasts. Forgot to ask for a name. I refused a shower and got into action. I actually enjoyed the massage. We agreed to a CBJ but it sucked so I just paid the extra 20 dollars for FS. Multiple positions plus doggy. The service was not the best but I was satisfied.

Not much conversation, the only thing we said to each other was: " Where are you from? Philly. What about you? Korea. "

But once I get more money up i'll be back to Heaven and hopefully get a girl that will talk to me.

Keep the posts coming new friends.

[ExtremeSex]

I noticed the sticker has been removed from the door of the old Blue Fox, haven't tried to see if anyone is there though.

[CC Boy]

Peedi, Sam and Kilgore,

I still want to know in addition to the house fee, how much are you guys offering for FS? Peedi said that he offered up an extra $20 for FS. That seems like a steal. My last trip to Ichi, I gave the house fee of $50, and then the "tip" of $100 to Toni for FS. Is heaven more of a bargain?

CC

[Dutch Treat]

Sam + Peedi:

Sam - thanks for the follow-up and good luck with the number!

Peedi: Room #1 = Chi-Chi, see my prior posts. Sorry to hear you didn't get "10" service, but this may have been due to only asking a CBJ upfront. Going the FS route always gets you the most enthusiasm (also my prior posts may provide additional clues as to how to optimize your service with C-C). Regardless, YMMV.

[Sam Katz]

Kilgore,

I am waiting until I have enough money before I call her. I am trying to meet her and a couple of her friends outside Heaven to hook up a couple of my friends. My approach? I just asked for her number after she was done and she gave it to me. I did not know it was hard for people to get cell numbers. But you should know I do have an advantage over most people.

Anyways my advice would be to always accept the shower so she knows your clean and will be more open and always create good conversation if possible, then ask for her number.

Maybe if i get the money up I will try this weekend.

[ThePerson]

I think Sam being Korean made it easy for him to get a number. As for the rest of us, I dont know.

[Sam Katz]

ThePerson,

Yes. That is my advantage. But I think with a little effort you guys can get a number as well. But hopefully sometime before Thanksgiving or next weekend I can call her up and see what i can set up.

Peedi hows life? When do you want to return?

[ThePerson]

Dont take offense Sam, I just noticed you on the Korean boards =).

[Sam Katz]

The Person,

No offense taken, haha why would you think i would take offense?

If you look on page 3 I even mention it.

Anyways

Really nobody ever got an AMP girls cell number?
Thats odd considering it would get them more business.

I think the only thing I got extra from being Korean is the condomless BJ and house line up. As for the phone number I think it's possible for anybody. Even if she speaks broken English just try to get good conversation and you will probably get the number.

Happy Hunting Mongers

[York]

Cell phone numbers of AMP Women.

I'm not Korean or Asian.

I get cell phone numbers easily from them.

I take them shopping in my car, to King of Prussia, to
Walmart, to Korean Grocery stores and to restaurants
and some movies.

You do this on their day or part of day off, usually Sunday.

They are stranded at the AMP.

If you are a nice guy, if you make them come as well or
better than they ever did with any other man in the past,
if you treat them with respect, if you build trust, you too can
take them out for nothing. It is so easy.

I've accomplished that in Amps from York, Philly, and
Reading. They are really good company and it is so much fun
and they need basics like cosmetics, clothes and
food. They are so appreciative of your consideration, they
never forget it and are so happy and joyful.

They pay for all of the items (with their $100 AMP bills),
you get a free date and if your
home or apartment is neat, they will come back.

They just want to get away from the AMP grind for
a few hours or a day or two. And when they have their
2 weeks off, they might stay with you!

[ExtremeSex]

I agree with York. Most of these girls are looking for someone to hangout with outside the AMP. Many never get to leave the AMP, and would enjoy the company of someone outside the AMP.

If you are nice, and respectful of them in the AMP, they will usually give you their number when asked. It also helps if you are single, as many are looking for a boyfriend to get them out of the AMP business. Of course once they find out they make more than you, they reconsider that idea. ;)

Oh, and they love to spend money! I took a few to AC once, and they were spending it like it was water! I didn't have to pay a dime, the whole trip. They had a a blast, and I had a great time.

Some girls will not give out their number though. Usually the ones who already have an outside life, and commute to work. If they've been around for a while, you probably won't get a number, if she's new, you're chances are much higher.

SamKatz let us know how you make out.

[Sam Katz]

York,

Cool, which AMPs in Philly were you successful in?

[Kilgore Trout #2]

I've been visiting AMP in Philly for almost 10 years, here is what I know about the FS pricing. Back in the day, about 6 - 8 years ago, the house fee was $40 at almsot all AMP in Philly. Back then I would pay the $40 entry fee, and almost always convince the girl for FS for an additional $60--that's right, back in the day Kilgore never once paid more than $100 total for FS. However, nowadays, it's a different story. The house fee is almost always $50, and the girls seem less willing to bargain for services. Maybe it's just Kilgore getting older, back in the day young Kilgore didn't mind trying to hustle the prices down. But now Kilgore doesn't want the hassle--Kilgore has not tried to bargain with a girl for years. I simply pay $100 additional for FS--but only on 1 other occasion, Toni, did I pay an additional tip for service (and that was because she gave me 2 pops for the $ of 1).

After reading some of your posts about getting FS for only $20, Kilgore will try bargaining again--but I think the $20 is exaggerated, Kilgore will try offering $75 next time. Lets see if we can collectively get the AMPs to lower their rates. If enough of us push for lower FS prices it will happen.

By the way, I was looking in the CityPaper yesterday and saw a few adds for new AMPs. Lets try some of these new ones.

Heaven still needs many more good reviews before it becomes the next BF.

[Peedi]

Peedi wants to see Chi Chi

Dutch Treat,

I will use your strategy and some extra green paper to make my next experience better.

Really? she will only be at Heaven through X mas?

Better act fast

[Connaisseur]

Thanks for your help, Philly mongers! Had a great time in your city, and decided to try Heaven after all that has been written on the place.
I ended up with Jenny, who I'd give a definite 9 in looks (HOT body, perfect tt's, perfect butt) and 8.5 in attitude (she was a bit on the quiet side). Nice shower, and so-so massage. Then the lights were dimmed, and the robe came off ; ). She started grinding against my back while her hands began to roam; flipped over, and Cool Billy Joel began to sing.
Could have gone further, but decided to leave it at that - and enjoyed the experience a lot. I can definitely recommend Heaven and Jenny, and will be back for sure at a later date.

Conn.

[Chief_Wiggum]

Visitor looking for guidance!

Hey board, I'm coming from Chicago to visit. I was wondering what the address is at Heaven and what is the best way to get there from the airport (or I can look at mapquest). What kind of service can i expect from these AMPs? Can anyone confirm BB or Asian services? I'm very well-versed in the AMP culture, and I'll make comparissons if anyone wants to give me a recommendation (I'll at least compare Heaven). However, mind you, I won't be in town too long. What are prices like? Have door fees actually come down?

Also, any recommendations for SWs? I've been looking at the past messages and got to April. I've read something about K street. Is it short for something? Where on K street? What are prices like? Better yet, what are the girls like? Anythings gotta be better than Chicago.

Thanks for the help, I'll be sure to make a report.

[ThePerson]

Passed by K today around 8-9pm. To much LE. There in their marked cars but every single one I saw there had their top sirens removed. I know its obviously a cop but why so many without the tops. Makes me wonder if a sting is at hand.

Also many foot patrols.

Saw only 1 WSW who looked good from far but as we all know close up she is 60 years old.

I guess the rain kept them away today. Or I gave up to easily.

Chief. I think the address for heaven may be posted here but its at 1800 ludlow. Theres a MP with russians, lithiunians and hispanic next to it. If your in the city. Stay on market, make a left onto 18th street, walk a few seconds and turn to the next right.

I dont like Heaven as much but I only went there once at 3am on thursday night.

The other place is better if white meats your preference.

As for K. Its about 15-25 minutes long. With the street ofcourse you have to be more careful and quality is usually low. If you have the money to spend. Pass by the above 2 MPs.

Going rate is usually 50 house and 100 tip in both places.

The white/black/his MP usually ask for about 180 but can be easily talked down to 140-160.

Once when I passed by the non-asian mp a jersey blond who was somewhat cute went upstairs with me and asked for 180.00 for a BJ, she had her period. I tried to talk her down to 100 for a bj and she wouldnt, so I went with the Lithuinian who was somewhat older but ok. Rooms there are HUGE.

Enjoy Philly.

[ThePerson]

I just noticed that Sam. Lol

York, Thanks for the tip, Im not going to try since I do not have the time. But just in my opinion, wouldnt that be the same as having a girlfriend or wife.

[eastsideguy]

Regarding the LE presence in K, the cars without the "sirens on top" are assigned to Highway Patrol (letters H or X before the numbers on the cars). This unit routinely floods a high crime area such as Kensington. No sting in progress, just their normal SOP's. They also supplement the Narcotics Strike Force also in the Kensington area (letter N before the numbers). Keep an eye out for unmarked Ford Taurus' and Ford Explorers (Warrant Unit) with tinted windows.

[Mack Mittens]

Yo Mongers,

K.O. is the number one gangster in the city. He don't have to ask for a cell number, they ask him permission. Keep us updated on ANY K.O. sightings!

Mack

[Mack Mittens]

Has anyone seen K.O.? Keep your eyes peeled!

Peedi?

Mack

[Dutch Treat]

The Person,

What's the address on Ludlow for the Russ/Lith/Hisp MP? Is it 1812? What's the quality of the providers there?

[Tech Man]

Chief_Wiggum,

K Ave is short for Kennsington Ave. That is where all the street action is found. You can normally find about 5-10 girls anytime of day. Quality ranges from the girl whos strung out to the half way decent girl. Prices range but you can easily get a BBBJ for 20 or FS for 50.

To get there from the airport: Go 95N to Allegany(spelling?) stay on Allegany until you reach K Ave. you will know the street because it is the one that runs under the train tracks. Make a left onto K and you are in the heart of the SW action. As long as you stay under the El tracks you will find what you are looking for.

I will be in Chicago on Dec 15th for a week, any help finding the SW scene would be apprieciated.

Good luck.

[York]

To ThePerson

It is similar to a girlfriend who pays her own pay and
gives you a good time; not many like that.

It is not at all like a wife; no significant costs, bitchiness,
moodiness, headaches, repeated disagreements.

[NY Monger]

If Ludlow is the street next to a mid-priced hotel, (forget the name) I was there about 2 years ago or so.

You walk up a flight of steps and get escorted into a waiting room where they parade several women past you. When I was there ,it was 7 or 8. The woman I picked was great once we got to the room. She worked in Trenton and supplemented her income this way

After I asked if she did outside work and was told 'no'.

At the time there was also a AMP almost downstairs, maybe one door over. I wandered in and left just as quickly to go upstairs.

[Peedi]

Kilgore,

Are you referring to when I said I paid an extra $20 for FS?

Read it carefully, I settled for a CBJ (which was 130) and it sucked so I just paid the extra $20 for FS which is just the normal $150.

haha yes I wish it were just $20 extra.

But you should still try to bargain everytime!

[Philly Doc]

I had the pleasure of meeting Jamie for the first time last night. 8-9 on the looks scale. Her breasts were smallish and looked bigger in the type of bra she was wearing. Started off with nice BJ with what smelled like a strawberry flavoured condom! Was taking a bit of time so she offered Half and half at another location. drove down this dirt road in northeast philly and then proceded to drive it home into her. It was nice. Saw her first at the corner of Cst and Ken did a loop around and picked her up coming up buckulus. Started with 40 for cbj then 40 more for half and half

She has dark hair now and looks realy good in a sweater.

[ThePerson]

Yup Dutch, I talked about it one before around 09/2003. Theres no line up but the 2 I saw were about a 7.

York, good point.

[ThePerson]

Thanks eastside, just wasnt sure, first time ive seen that many in a small area.

[Adobe]

Hey, all --

Is 1812 on Ludlow definitely still open? I'm looking for a non-AMP experience -- Europeans okay. What's the deal on tipping beyond the entry fee? I once (3, 4 years ago) visited the AMP a few doors down, at 1800, and found the girls quite nice-looking and the tipping reasonable by Boston standards. The service was pleasantly unrestricted.

Anyone, can somebody help out a visitor from New England? I need a reliable incall place not far from Center City, around the Convention Center, Race and 13th, if anyone has any other suggestions besides 1812 for a close and easy incall or MP place to visit.

Thanks!

Adobe

[Mack Mittens]

Attention Mongers,

I went to Heaven with Sam Katz recently. Had a long wait in the T.V. room. Finally Miss AMP #1 and #2 came out. She took me to room 1 (wasn't Chi-Chi) I'm not sure of her name, sounded like "I". She wanted me to pay in advance! What's the deal with that? Anyway I paid $120 all together because I wasn't looking for FS tonight. She started with the massage, it lasted about 15 minutes and then the infamous "FLIP". I was dissapointed that she would only give me a HJ rather than a CBJ. That was not cool. Arg! She was a nice girl, good conversation afterwards but the price wasn't worth it. Who pays $120 for a HJ? All in all the service was ok but I think I'll stick with the Ichi Ban from now on. I'm with Kilgore.

Take it easy Mongers.

[Sam Katz]

Hello forum people,

I just visited Heaven for the second time with MM. I had to wait for my angel in the waiting room this time. Once she came she was excited to see me, I conversated with her for about 10 minutes before any fun happened. We agreed on 70 extra for a BJ. No shower this time though. The BJ was great but I ended it with tittyfucking her and leaving her santa claus. She now has my number and said she will call me at times when she is not busy and definetly chill with me sometime in December. I am definetly not returning to Heaven if this number goes well or not but I think it will go well.

Well, Sam Katz signs off tonight with the advice: try to get numbers at the AMPs you visit so you don't have to keep returning. Unless you guys have enough money to keep going and going.

York,

I'm curious when you take these girls out do you get any action? if so do you pay for the action?

[Tech Man]

Fellow Mongers,

Dated Jaimie yesterday. I must say that she has really taken a turn for the worse. i first dated her about two months ago. She looked young and fresh. Now she is looking really worn. You can really tell her habit has taken it's toll. I got a CBJ for 20, she wanted 40. It was really bad, she kept rushing me and was very mechanical. I don't think I will be seeing her again. Anyways, alot of LE out the last few days during the afternoons. Stay safe out there.

[ThePerson]

Hey Adobe there are plently of MPs around, especially by the convention center, just take a look at the forum. I believe the place at 1812 is still open, I went a few weeks ago and the same Madam was there. Enjoy Philly, I may pass by Boston in a few weeks. Any euro MPs up there.

[eastsideguy]

Anybody get extras at The Playhouse? I was there for the 1st time last week and got HJ in one of the VIP rooms. Went back 2 days later and found out the girl no longer works there-had some kind of problem with the management (maybe she got busted via the camera). Was I just lucky to get what I got or is that a regular thing depending on the girl? Any possibility of BJ's in the VIP rooms?

[Sam Katz]

Has anybody been to Best Oriental or Kings? Or that shady Bamboo place that says they got exercise equipment available on there ad.

Kilgore is right, In the city paper I seen a lot of new AMPs nobody has posted about.

Try these places out Mongers! Maybe you guys can get better service.

PS: CIM and COF give you a great feeling.

[ThePerson]

hey eastside.

I was planning on going there next week. I heard that plently goes on there. If you check out stripclublist.com and check out the review you can see for yourself. I heard about management busting a few chicks there but its a common thing there, but that the employee turn-around is horrible. Almost all will do extras. Im not sure about a bj or fs, but Ill be trying my best. Ill let you know what happens.

[eastsideguy]

Hey ThePerson,

Thanks for the info. I'm going in tomorrow afternoon. I'm always scouting out new talent for "take-out". I'll let you know how I do. By the way, Happy Thanksgiving.

[ExtremeSex]

Eastside, plenty of extras to be had there. Most girls will offer anything from HJ to FS, it really depends on the girl. Some will ask for extra for the extras, but HJ can be had by most for just the price of the dance. If you're looking for extras I would stick with the foreign girls, the american girls tend to play by the books (with a few exceptions). If you have a chance, try Heather, she has the best milage by far, and she's a lot of fun.

Best time to go is in the afternoon (before 4:00pm) as things are much more relaxed then.

As far as the firings go, I beleive that was a lot of talk on the boards and nothing more. I haven't noticed anyone missing from the roster recently.

Sam Katz, I've hit up Babmoo in the past, it was a mediocre experience. Girl was hot looking (can't remember her name) but service was very mechanical. I hate that, I want to think I'm special ;-)

Techman, I agree with you on Jamie, say her the other day and I couldn't beleive it was the same girl! She really needs to get cleaned up, she had alot of potential.

[Dutch Treat]

The Person,

Thanks for confirming the address of 1812. Could you please comment on the Euro-providers present and their qualities (10's vs. 1's; old/fat/bored vs. young/slender/into it; are DATY, Asian, Greek offered, etc?). Are the following provided - Line-up?, Shower?, Massage?. While I prefer the asian providers, a change of pace does the soul some good every so often.

Thanks in advance for the info.

[daty guy]

Stopped by heaven and by the luck of the draw I was given Jenny. She's very pretty and works hard.

She was not the best AMP attendant I've ever had but she was very good.

I got a look at 3 other attendants while I was there. Jenny was the best looking of the 4. Jenny said that there 6 girls working. I would have liked a line up but it was my first time there and the mamasan seemed kind of worried and paranoid.

Does anyone know when the VIP room at Club Moet will open back up?

[Chief_Wiggum]

Hey Techman,

Thanks for the advice. I didn't know there was a MP place close to Heaven. Damn, hopefully I'll have enough time. This is going to cut into my gambling, I just know it...

Anyway, I'd like to give this board a word of advice, no offense to Sam Katz or anything, but I strongly caution against dating a girl from an AMP. Speaking as one who has done it before, it's a ton of fun in the beginning, but like the massage (and extras) technique, they have a whole ton of training for dealing with this situation. Be prepared for bitchy attitude when you're late picking her up, god forbid you see someone else (especially if you pay for it), hope to god that the girl isn't a gambler, and they all turn into control freaks. I'm not saying that they're all like that, but from my experience, and those of others I've met, I'd say that the likelyhood is extremely high. If you're going to be friends w/them, just try to get cheaper (or free) service. It's better for everyone involved.

[Sam Katz]

Chief Wiggum,

No offense taken, but i'm not trying to DATE this girl, just trying to hang out and hopefully get free service. If things go well I want to hook my friend Peedi or whomever up with her friend. She said she would call me in December when she has time and I know the number is real so hopefully everything turns out good.

Has anyone ever met outside with a girl that worked at heaven?

If so post your story.

[ThePerson]

Thanks extreme for that input.

I have never been there before but on the comment section of stripclublist indicates lots that is done.

Just curious did you ever do fs or bj during dance time or was it an outside hookup. Thanks.

[ThePerson]

Hey dutch, if you look back a page or so you can see mym comments on that MP. As for shower, massage etc. Nope its just a straight up brothel. No other stuff.

I didnt do anything extra when there, simple, CBJ, FS in multiple positions. I dont know if any time limits but I was there for around 1 hour, one round only. As for DATY I would never to any worker, so I wouldnt know, I am not sure if they would mind. "Asian" to her, same as before, as for you Im sure its possible.

No line up but you can ask for someone else, if your willing to offend the chick. None were overweight from what I can tell, slender and normal weight. Ages range from 20-35 from what I can tell.

Whats weird is that this is the only Non-Asian MP around (that i know of) when theres a decent population of Russians by NE Philly. In ever country I have visited with almost no Russian population I have found russian providers. Makes me wonder whether its kept to the Russians only, no one in the board is talking about it or that there non-existant in philly and the surrounding area.

[ExtremeSex]

ThePerson,

I've had both FS and BJ (all covered by my choice) during the dances. There are girls there willing to hookup outside, but you need to ask them, as they tend to decide that on a customer-by-customer basis.

As for the non-amp MP, I assume you are referring to 1812 Ludlow? If so, what are the rates (or perhaps you already placed that in your preivous post...)

[PhilBoy]

Made big mistake, tried a place, new listing in City Paper, called "New Century", on 3rd Street south of Washington. DO NOT DO THIS. Moderately attractive masseuse, Asian, but should have known from the fact that it was a row house with a post it listing name that it was a bad idea. Went downstairs, horrible room in basement, kind of cole, with just a massage table in it. OK massage, hand release, but fully clothed unenthusiastic delivery. Then, worst of all, we come back upsatirs to leave, and there in the living room are mom, dad, and boy watching TV and eating dinner. Lovely.

[York]

To Philboy

Did they invite you to join them for dinner?

[Sam Katz]

Philboy,

Thats the funniest thing I ever heard!

How much money you spend?

[navy]

Howdy,

Need some info on Philadeliphia incall places not just MP's. I'm planning on visiting during the holidays. There was a magazine about 4 years ago call Action I believe, that had ads from different incall and out call establishments, does this still exist?
I would be greatful for any Info that could save me most of my trip trying to figure out where to go.

Thanks,

Navy

[Adobe]

Back from the trip. I visited a place at 233 12th (I think it was). typical AMP. Perhaps a bit more rushed than usual, but average in all other ways. I also knocked on the door at 1812 (the buzzer was no longer attached), but no one answered.

ThePerson: I know of no Euro MPs in the Boston area. There's a place in Chelsea, an American MP, everything available. Girls are all right, but it's not upscale by any means. There's a place in Maine, a couple of minutes from the border with NH, but it'll run you $$$. You're best off trying your luck with one of the ads in the back pages of the local free paper, The Phoenix. Your odds aren't so good, but at least you can always walk out if the incall provider isn't as advertised.

Adobe

[ThePerson]

Removed buzzer usually means a bust I guess. But maybe not, if Heaven is still around, its right next door. Ill check next time on the block. Sorry Adobe. Thanks for the info, sounds like I have to hit the bars and work for it.

[ThePerson]

LMFAO Phil,

What a unique experience.

[PhilBoy]

York - No, they did not invite me for dinner. I kind of nodded and said hello, sort of like I happened to be walking a little to closely past their table in a restaurant. I thought I had tried everything, but this was a new one even for me.

[PhilBoy]

Anyone know what happened to Relax Stop? Used to be on Garrett Road in Upper Darby, closed in September after LA action, moved to 20th Street in Phila. But now their 215- number has the "out of service" message.

I always liked that place, although I could never figure out why!

[PhilBoy]

oops, on last posting meant to say LE action.

[Desert Fox #2]

I’ve been reading the posts for about a month, and finally decided to join in the discussion. I’ve been to a few places, so I will try and break them up into separate posts.

Philboy,

I had a similar experience at the New Century AMP near 3rd and Washington. I would also not recommend this place.

I called ahead and showed up around noon on a weekend. An Asian man, who was parked in a car in front of the rowhouse, had to let me into the rowhouse, which was a bit unusual. Once I got in, a plump Asian woman said that I could come with her, or could wait for younger, thinner woman to arrive. After being assured that my wait would be short, I agreed to wait for the younger woman. This is where is got interesting. I used the bathroom, and came back to the living room to find the man watching an old Jackie Chan movie with English subtitles. He motioned for me to sit down. I thought, why not, and sat down to watch the movie. This guy was cracking up to every silly stunt old Jackie did while I sat there pretend laughing and feeling awkward.

About 10 minutes later, I asked him if she would arrive soon, and he said 5 minutes. He spoke broken English, so it was difficult to communicate with him. At that point, a little boy in a yellow bathrobe walks in, sits in the couch next to me, and starts watching the Jackie Chan movie with us. Another 10 minutes of this (half hour in total), and the young woman rushes in, starts talking to the little boy, and then motions me to go upstairs with her. I felt like part of the family! I felt like saying “See ya around little boy, I’m going to release a load into your friend over here!” Not good times.

We get upstairs, and we walk into a small room with a massage table and a bed. She introduces herself as Fionne, and says she had to be picked up from Chinatown. She is a small, cute girl. Nothing special, but definitely nice. Compared to other AMP girls at other places, I’d give her a 6. The cost for a massage is $70, and she says extras requires a “tip” at the end. We exchange knowing smiles and I undress for the massage. Let me add one thing here. The room was freezing! Not conducive to full arousal if you get my drift. The massage is begins, is really bad. Then we do the old flip, and then things get interesting. She starts a BBJ, feels real nice. I motion to the bed, but she says she can’t, so I stick with the BBJ. One good thing is that she took the initial burst in the mouth. She let the rest land on my stomach. Tipped her $40, for a $110 total. As I left, waved goodbye to the little boy and Asian man, and vowed never to go back.

I’ll be writing additional posts about the other places I’ve been, but don’t want to spend too much time in one sitting.

[Sam Katz]

Sometime in few weeks she said she will "hang out".

Freebees?

[hallowolverine]

where is the playhouse?

[Khurg]

I cruised the K on Monday night. It seemed for a while that nothing was happening the all of a sudden alot of gals walking in area of K and Erie around 8pm. I personally think this is the worst place a girl can walk. It is a very busy intersection and hard to stop for a pickup. Serveral very nice looking gals out but LE was heavy so I was content to look.

Why dont the girls learn to hang near a corner where we can turn onto a side street to make a pick up ?

[Monger for Life]

Hi Mongers!

This is my first post but I have been readin WSG for quite a few months. I am not down with the K but I am sure interested in AMPs. What is the deal with this nonasian AMP on ludlow near Heaven? AMP comeptition like Blue Fox and Sho gun on Samson. Only one will come out victorious.

Has anybody got anything good from Midori? Is it worth it?

[PhilBoy]

DF, your time there sounds even worse than mine (although you did better on the release part). At least I didn't have to sit down with the family and watch a movie. But what the hey, we got good stories out of it (although not exactly stories for the next office cocktail party).

[Desert Fox #2]

I will soon write on the places I did enjoy. But, continuing along the lines of places I did not enjoy:

Mona Spa
Location: Near Cheltenham Ave and Broad St
Offerings: table shower, massage, HJ
Price: $50, with extra for HJ
Comments: Heinous staff when I went a few months ago, good table shower attention, OK massage. I do not recommend. Location is not discrete (busy road)

College Girls
Location: Snyder Ave, S. Philly
Offerings: FS
Price: $100 HJ, $100 extra for FS
Comments: Found ad in CityPaper. Girl was nice looking, big flabby breasts, OK buttocks. Was a white girl (Michele?). Would have been regular customer cause I like white girls best, but she was unenthusiastic, and the person answering the phones is superanal about security. Discrete location (big plus in my book).

No Name
Location: 3rd & Chestnut
Offerings: FS
Price: $150
Comments: Went about a month ago maybe. Found ad in CityPaper. I believe right next to Ichiban. Mostly black girls, some latina and white. Many of them were cows, and the one I picked smelled horribly in the naughty place.

Shogun AMP
Offerings: table shower, sauna, massage, FS
Price: $150
Comments: Went a long time ago, so don't know if still open. An enjoyable time, but nothing special. Girl (forget her name) was plump, but nice breasts. Was a little into it, but I’ve had better and more enthusiastic AMP experiences. Nothing bad to say about this place, just blah as far as AMPs go.

[ThePerson]

Hey monger, Im not sure if there still open but the last time checked (about 3 weeks ago) they were. Read the prior post for more info.

[ThePerson]

Hey Hallo, That place is in Jersey I think Burlington. I dont have the exact address but its over some bridge by the philly burbs.

[Peedi]

Hey Mongers,

Man do I want to go back to Heaven. Only if I had the enough funds for the fun. I did get my car back and I have a credit card but I will wait until I have enough cash to spare.

Anyways, anybody with any good stories from Heaven or any other AMPs?

[Desert Fox #2]

I went to Heaven for the first time last night. Actually I tried going to the euro-MP at 1812, but like previous posts mentioned, the buzzer was removed and no lights. Looks like it closed down.

Heaven is one of the nicer AMPS I've been to. I had a girl named Nana who at first glance looked beautiful. It must have been the lighting in the room because when we got to the private room she still was OK, but looked different.

I got great service there. Very inspired. A little overacting though. I'm used to the whole act about how I'm so big, and how good I'm giving it to her, but this was a little too much. Once funny thing was that she was trying to talk dirty, but it came out as "buck me baby, buck me!" I almost cracked up in mid act.

One thing I wanted to mention. After the massage and before the FS, she put a condom on her finger, oiled it up, and then slowly worked it into my anus. She went fairly deep. This shocked me on so many levels. My woody went down instantly, but I didn't stop her. Partly because of shock, and partly because I wanted to give it a shot. This was the first time any AMP girl tried this on me.

Has it happened to anyone else, and if so, did you enjoy? Maybe I was too tense, but I don't think I would enjoy it under any circumstances. No judgements here, just want other opinions.

[Dutch Treat]

Desert Fox:

I have not gotten the service you describe yet in Philly or SF, but I have in DC. You can check out what I thought of it by searching my previous posts (it was in October - "Suzi" at Downtown). Basically, I had a provider doing this while she did CBJ/reverse cowgirl/and even missionary and it led to the most amazingly protracted explosion of manjuice I have ever had. If you check out the DC board, you will see this happens alot down there.

You know, some guys really get uptight when a provider rims and or penetrates their anus. This may be due to hang-ups with their sexuality, prejudice towards gays, and/or infectious concerns. Some of these are valid and I respect that. However, when performed correctly (and preferably safely) by a provider (and you can relax) rimming, anal penetration, and particularly prostate massage can provide an unbelievable orgasm in conjunction with either oral or vaginal sex.

Can you give me more details on Nana - age, height/ weight, breasts, positions, etc?

[ExtremeSex]

Stopped by Ichiban the other day. Saw Toni, as reported by others, it was a good time. She has a weird face, but a knock out body. She provided multiple pops, and she was just fun to be with. I woudl definately see her again.

Desert Fox #2, what you had was a PM (prostate massage), or at least it was supposed to be. If done properly this can be very stimulating, however many of the amp girls who do it, just think they need to stick their finger up your ass to get you off (not exaclty the most pleasent sensation).

There was one women at DaHill, way back when, who would give a BBBj, and when she wanted to make you pop, she would skillfully insert a digit and wiggle it just the right way. You completely lost control, instant pop!

Was Nana attractive? She sounds like she would be fun.

Hallo the Playhouse is in Burlington NJ, on Route 130. If you take the Burlington Bristol Bridge over to Jersey, and make a left onto 130, keep going for maybe 2 miles, you will see it on your right hand side. If you hit the Honda dealer you went too far.

[ExtremeSex]

Cruised K ave the other nite. It was really cold, so I wasn't exepcting to find much out, and I was right. Patrols were at a record high, I though maybe they were looking for an escaped convict or something with so many of them out. I don't think I've every seen so many at once.

Anyway nothing really special. They do tend to congregate ournd Erie Torresdale, I think they get coffe at the Dunkin Donuts to keep warm.

Quality and Quantity have seemed to really drop off lately.

I stopped by BlueFox the other day after hearing a report that they were open again. It was misinformation. They are still closed down. There is a padlock on the front door, but the red & white sticker has since been removed. Does anyone remember when they closed down? I beleive they have to stay closed for a year, before they can open again. At least that was what happend with Japn Studios (now Midori).

Philboy, Relax Station was very publicly busted a few months ago. The police had Action News there during the bust, and they filmed the girls and one John being taken out in cuffs. Very bad deal. I doubt they will ever open again.

[tarzan]

A question regarding tipping.

I went to an AMP in Phoenixville and was told that a 1hr massage would cost $60. There was the shower first and then the massage which was quite relaxing.

When she had me turn over she went right into the HJ. After the whole experience, which wasn't too bad, I tipped her $40. I thought I tipped alright, but then I got this weird look from her and a sigh!

I figured I would give $20 for the massage and $20 more if there was a HJ. I really dont think a HJ should be more than $40.

Any suggestions?

[Sam Katz]

Desert Fox #2,

YIKES!

She did that? What a freak! You could have got her to do anything you wanted probably!
For me good thing I did not get that girl at Heaven. I guess she tried that finger fun on some customers and they enjoyed it so she continued.

I think it's not cool but you always got them mongers who enjoys just about anything.

Well it's good to hear you got good FS at Heaven atleast.

Happy Hunting Mongers

[Milf1968]

Hello Hallowolverine,

Playhouse is over Burlington Bridge Rte 130S, I think it S at the intersection make a left on 130 few miles you'll pass Burger King and shortly after. Same side as Burger King.

Good luck, HJ look for Brazilian most like will get the job done.

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[Lion]

Desert Fox:

If the girl knows what she is doing, the right touch can send you to heaven (pardon the pun) and make it the best BJ of your life. Actually, just the right pressure can get a similar effect without penetration, as an old GF knew so well...

Some BJ parlors in Japan specialize in this, so there is no need to be homophobic (not that you are, but some guys get weird at the idea).

But the wrong touch is definately no fun, so it's a bit of a toss up on whether to take the chance or not.

[ThePerson]

Im very upset now, that was the only non-asian AMP that I knew of. This SUCKS.

Desert Fox #2

" I went to Heaven for the first time last night. Actually I tried going to the euro-MP at 1812, but like previous posts mentioned, the buzzer was removed and no lights. Looks like it closed down. "

[Nemo Smith]

When did 3rd and Chestnut get non-asians? Last time I went there I had a great asian girl named Candy. This was my first AMP a few years ago and I used to go only to them because I knew of no other. Only once did I remember them having white girls. And that was about three years ago.

[Spazen]

This board has been extremely active so therefore I decided to register and contribute:

I tried to go to Itchiban Wed. and found it closed. Sign said water problems. It would have been my first time there.

So, off to Heaven again. I saw Ruby. She got the job done well and that's about it. Lots of teasing. Massage through the towel, CFS and CBJ. Not a GFE experience. Not a Callowhill experience.

So far I haven't found anyone at Heaven that I wanted to see again. Just before Blue Fox closed I had a session with someone I would have seen again.

[Spazen]

Desert Fox #2: (Your condom on finger experience)

Also known as prostrate massage. Can be very erotic. It seems to be a rare occurance but does happen.

Milking, the process of massaging the prostrate can result in ejaculation without an erection or orgasm is used in some FemDom play. This I would find unpleasant and falls in the category of CBT.

[Desert Fox #2]

ThePerson,

I mentioned it in a previous post, but there is a non-Asian MP on 3rd and Chestnut. I believe right next to Ichiban (which I have never been). It is one of these 3 consecutive blue doors on 3rd. The quality of the girls is not good, but it is non AMP. Mostly black, some white and latina. I found them through CityPaper.

[Desert Fox #2]

Thanks to everyone for describing the prostrate massage/magic finger situation. After reading all your posts, I think I'll be a bit more receptive next time. I think it was partly my own hang-ups, combined with the fact that it wasn't combined with any other action (as mentioned by Dutch Treat in previous post).

[Desert Fox #2]

Dutch Treat,

Here are the details on Nana at Heaven:

Small perky breasts, short in height, slim, pretty face, no body blemishes. Got the usual service (CBJ, FS, doggie, missionary). I did not try third input, but probably not an option. But my impression is that she would be open everything else.

I would recommend her also for her enthusiasm, and she did not rush me at all. The massage and table shower was pretty good in comparison to some other AMP girls I've had.

Hope that helps!

[ExtremeSex]

Nemo Smith 3rd st has a collection of adult entertainment shops in one location.

Ichiban (the AMP) is located in the basement at 42B.
Just above it is a Dungeon for those on the wilder side.

Next door is a non-Asian MP whose name has changed so many times I couldn't tell you what it is now.

I've visited the non-asian MP a few times in the past, and was never really that impressed. The girls are not that attractive, and service was always somewhat rushed. Last tiem I went it was $175 for the hour, so the price was good, but not worth it IMHO.

I know about the dungeon, because the last time I was there, they were very busy. The girl had to take me over to the dungeon just to use one of their rooms. If you're into dungeons, I would say theirs is pretty well equipped (albeit very scary)! I bleive she called it the royal castle or something like that.

[Desert Fox #2]

Tarzan,

Regarding your "A question regarding tipping" post.

I'm with you. I think $40 is a generous tip for a HJ. We have to fight to keep these prices in check. I've actually never tipped more than $30 for a HJ.

[United1]

Hey All,

Can you give me the location of these AMPs? Esp Heaven. Is this place pretty safe? Sounds like a WSGuide favorite!

Thanks!

[Spazen]

ThePerson:

Euro-MP at 1812? Korean I'd say, for as long as I can remember. Shortly before they closed they had "water problems" too. No sign, just no water for shower and mamasan didn't answer the door that day. Phone's been "temporarily disconnected" for a while.

The other time 1812 closed, it was shortly after the carpeting was installed. They should have closed when the installers were there, but no. Business as usual. I know, I was there in the midst of workers laying wall to wall carpet.

319 N. 11th had the most variety. Thai, Laotian or Korean were available. Although before they closed LE was always hanging in the parking lot almost every time I cruised by. Now the lot is for monthly parking, so take a guess whether we'll see them again.

[Sam Katz]

So is any mongers planning on seeing Nana?

I know some of you guys are planning on it

Watch your back every time you go Heaven if you don't like the magic finger.

[CC Boy]

I plan on stopping by Ichi this week. Can anyone give me an update on their "water problem" status? Im hoping they are open again.

[ThePerson]

Hey Butch,

Have you ever got more from the Playhouse when you went. Im more interested in a bj or fs when I go, just wondering, thanks.

[ThePerson]

Thanks Desert ill try to give that place a try.

1812 had decent quality and I wanted to go back again but didnt get a chance yet. Ill post if once I pass by.

Spazen that 1812 location was non-asain. You might be confusing it with Heaven next door. But I hope the close is short term but if the buzzers been ripped off it usual coincides with a bust.

[Spazen]

The Person:

I did a reverse address lookup on 1812 Ludlow and came up with Happiness Oriental Health Spa, Hosue Spa and Ludlow Reflexology Center so I'm not mistaken on the address. Sauna and shower are just inside the double door to the left. Then comes a small sitting area, curtained off, with a TV then a kitchen. Was offered, and ate there many times. Kimchee, an Asian food was usually on the menu. Dried seaweed was one of my favorite foods. The entryway area used to have a large fishtank. There were two floors and a basement. Mattresses on floor although there is at least one room on the third floor with an elevated mattress. I was downstairs once a long time ago and was a very interesting experience. Some company had all the rooms booked so I was in the midst of co-providers downstairs with the washer/dryer making lots of noise. Korean providers mostly.

Does this describe the place your referring too?

[Monger for Life]

Mongers,

I recently visited the Ichi Ban for the first time this week late at night and I must say it was a horrible experience. The mamasan brought out one girl she must have been a 5 in my book so I asked for a different girl and the next girl must have been a 4! I asked for another and the mamasan gave me a dirty look but went and got another girl, this girl was about a 6. I was fiending and did not feel like driving around so I took it. Sorry I forgot to ask for a name but she was not Toni because i did not get 2 pops. She was a very short girl who had small breasts thin body flat ass all of which I can take but her face was just bad(ruined everything you could have found a better girl on the K). Quick shower, paid the 100 up front, bad massage, basically just pushing my back. FS was horrible she just slipped a rubber on and layed there and said do me. No enthusiasm no nothing. I forced myself to end early and made a promise to myself that I will never come back to the Ichi Ban.

Any AMPs worth the $150?

[ThePerson]

Im sorry Spazen but the address on the outside door is 1812.

The place you describe does not match what I saw in there. There is a second floor with 3 large rooms with real beds. No food service from what I can tell and there were no asain providers at all. Even the Madam asked if I was looking for asian and I told her no, then she let me in. Maybe theres 1 right next to it.

[Adobe]

For what it's worth --

Many, many years ago, I visited a Ludlow address. It was either 1812 (I'm pretty sure it was) or 1816. There was an Asian place nearby, but this place definitely was not. You paid, entered a room, and the staff was led in, one at a time. I can't say what it's been of late, although as I reported below, when I visited there last week, the buzzer was missing, definitely, from the door at 1812.

Adobe

[Spazen]

The Person:

I'm really confused. If I remember my geography there is 1800 a.k.a Heaven (1800 written on the awning), a small fenced in lot, followed by what I say is 1812, again written on the awning. The entrance is a stained brown door in which you had to go up a few steps. At one point there was a nice sign which said "open door". You had to ring the bell on the center of the inner door. The nice signs are ripped off.

I think there is a sandwich shop next followed by 1816 which has a handwritten white sign on it. This has been the address of "Massage at your location" and "Gentleman's Retreat". I recently called that location and was told that they did offer incall massage and outcall for regulars.

Did your location have the nice stained door and a few outside steps? -or- was it the one with the handwritten white sign on it? or some place else entirely?

Food service is not normal at an AMP. It just sometimes happens. It happened at the Hill as well.

[ExtremeSex]

There are two literally right next door to each other.

1800 is at the far end of the street, while 1812 is next in line, then there is some kind of deli or something, and right after that is another AMP (don't know the address).

It is possible that 1812 has switched from AMP to non-AMP for a short stint. The last few times I've visited Heaven, I was sure to check the door on 1812, and everytime, there was never any answer, I'm going back at least 2 months now, so I'm not sure everyone is talking about the same place?

1812 has a blue canopy over the front door which reads "1812 Ludlow".

[Sam Katz]

Fellows,

Let's stop trying so hard to find out about 1812 Ludlow.

What is the big deal?

This place can't be better then Heaven, or is it?

I know you mongers want "non asian FS" but the asian girls are hot at these Philly AMPs and get the job done.

1812 is probably closed anyway since the bell is ripped off.

Happy hunting mongers.

[Milf1968]

The Person,

Sorry, I asked and all I got was hj. If you get more let me know and of course the girl that provides the service. Some of the booths have mirror and I guess someone on the otherside is watching at all times.

Good luck

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[ThePerson]

Hey Butch,

Dont worry about.

As for the cameras and mirrors, I wouldn't worry. If there willing to give you a hj in there, then they dont care.

Anyway I went last night and damn I had a good time. There were only a few good looking women mostly from Brazil and Russia as previously described, some American. most though looked like ok. A friend took this American chick to the VIP and told me he could get anything, though they do rub and touch and allow you to also (chick with a huge tattoo on her lower back and buttocks.

I went to the back with this very hot Brazilian chick named Iana. She was light in color, C cup natural and a BEAUTIFUL bubble but. I had 3 dances in the VIP which is worth $90 and I gave her $100 total. I was groaping, sticking my fingers where the sun dont shine and more. No FS but there was no time for that. Consider it foreplay only. But I was satisfied.

A friend of mine got a few mobile numbers and we will arrange a "fake bachelor" party for me soon. The chick said she and a few others are available for private parties. I cant wait. This place is great and its BYOB.

Please note not all the chicks are great looking, a lot of chunky ones but there a few hotties. Prbobably 15 dancers total on a Monday Night but the sign outside said 85 dancers on Friday night, I think thats impossible due to the size of the place.

If you do go though dont take a dance from the American girls as you wont get your moneys worth.

Anyway I had a great time there. But I want to go to Brazil now.

[ThePerson]

Your right Sam. Im dropping it.

I do enjoy AMPs but I always like to try non-asain MPs.

But IMHO, you do get a better experience at an AMP.


Sam:

Fellows,

Let's stop trying so hard to find out about 1812 Ludlow.

What is the big deal?

This place can't be better then Heaven, or is it?

I know you mongers want "non asian FS" but the asian girls are hot at these Philly AMPs and get the job done.

1812 is probably closed anyway since the bell is ripped off.

Happy hunting mongers.

[CC Boy]

anyone try out Mona Spa?

[Chief_Wiggum]

Hey,

Well, finally got back and I gots some stuff to report.

SWs: Man, there wasn't many. There was at best 5 the whole night, maybe more, but I couldn't tell if some of them were working or just walking. The cold didn't help, but it wasn't that cold, not like Chicago. Anyway, i didn't get any names, b/c they were like 6s at best on the sw scale. Paid 20 bones each, not too shabby, bbjs from both, suck and spit. I was really expecting a lot more in terms of quality, hopefully, I'll be back when it's warmer. One was kind of plump, obviously drunk, or high, she sells Zanax on the side, supposedly. Clean, though, wore work out clothes and had really expensive running shoes. Says that she got pissed at her husband. Hmmm...sounds like a weird way to get back at somebody. The other girl had nice reddish hair, skinny, and some weird tatoos. Smokes, but didn't smell it. Most of the girls (at the most, i noticed 2 at a time) seemed to be from Indianna up to KFC, more towards IN. The worst one were the ones toward the end of K st. Which makes me wonder why more girls aren't on that street? Better places to stand, more cover, less LE. Oh man, was there a ton of LE out there. I especially don't appreciate the empty paddy wagon. By 11 pm, most of the LE was gone, it seemed. Saw one blond, long curly hair, looked too good to be a sw, but then again, looked too good to be in that neighborhood.

Heaven: got Nahnah (spelled phoenetically); she's got a bit of a paunch, but I wouldn't call her fat. Pretty nice face, 7 over all (conservative estimate). I asked for a line-up but mamason told me that I have to come earlier (it was near midnight). Nahnah gave me a hard ass massage. I mean this hurt. My back felt better, but my neck was sore for a couple of days. I think she really liked me, but her English was terrible. My crap-ass Korean only made it worse. Anyway, I was really tired, especially from the pounding of the massage and I didn't want to f-, so I just wanted a bj. She said I was strong, as I didn't come for a long time (I tried!) I told her she was strong for what she did to my body. She really wanted to hump and was disappointed that I didn't want to, like really sad. Anyway, paid $70, got no complaints. Took a little nap there, and got my second wind. Went next door to that MP place, and it was closed. Looks like no one has been there for a while.

Went to Club Moet and it was closed. What? What time does it close? I got pissed, I was hoping to end the trip on some nice nubian stripper p*ssy. Went to some chinese food place near Moet and it was ok food, but what's w/the lack of decor. Man, the whole area looks dilapidated. Is all of Philly like this? Anyway, some ghetto homeless looking dude comes in and rolls a cig laced w/crack. Classy.

Lastly, I would like to give Enterprise a nice round of applause for renting me a Mercury Grand Marquis. Not only did it make it hard to pick up sws, but people kept slowing down all around me. Almost missed my flight.