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[JWalker350]

Yeah I didn't know what to make of that. The number she has been texting from has a San Diego area code. So?? Unfortunately most of the profiles on SA are vague, generic, or vapid. Basically like any other dating site LOL. Ladies if you want some $ thrown at you put in a bit more effort.I believe she lives in San Diego. If anyone login SA outside US, it will show the login location. Probably she traveled to Germany. Number of girls on SA have last login location in Mexico.

[FarFarAway]

I believe she lives in San Diego. If anyone login SA outside US, it will show the login location. Probably she traveled to Germany. Number of girls on SA have last login location in Mexico.The mostly likely reasons for this (other than in SD, where girls really could come from TJ) is that they are from outside the US (girls or guys looking for online) or that they are using a VPN that takes them through foreign countries. The Tor browser definitely can do this also.

[Hi Rub]

Anyone talk to this married chic who is looking for intimate arrangements in and County?

https://www.seeking.com/member/5f05a2ac-af68-4cf2-997e-e463cd0e41b6

[Hi Rub]

This one lives in La Mesa. 1. 2 for qv, bolt-ons feel horrible, she smells of cigarettes, talks loudly, and her puss smelled fishy. Only plus was that she takes her time. I don't remember her BJ skills.

[Poksman]

And I'm hoping there is a surge of real college SBs. Been blessed to have 2 loyal long term SBs the last 2 years. Now 22 and 20. Both fulfill what most of us strive for: hot, good sex, no drama. Both are clean so bareback is the norm (yes; with tests to confirm). I have a 3rd who is my ATF sex performer, but got too attached to me. So toned that down from regular to when needed.

Maybe I'm greedy, and I'm also feeling the urge for new SBs and might renew SA. Thoughts. ? Is the grass really greener and do you see a surge in real SB talent?

[Pay to Play]

And I'm hoping there is a surge of real college SBs. Been blessed to have 2 loyal long term SBs the last 2 years. Now 22 and 20. Both fulfill what most of us strive for: hot, good sex, no drama. Both are clean so bareback is the norm (yes; with tests to confirm). I have a 3rd who is my ATF sex performer, but got too attached to me. So toned that down from regular to when needed.

Maybe I'm greedy, and I'm also feeling the urge for new SBs and might renew SA. Thoughts. ? Is the grass really greener and do you see a surge in real SB talent?

As far as things picking up, I have seen a lot more scams hitting SA recently. To the point I deleted my account. I'll go back at some point but taking a break.

[HelloYouAre]

And I'm hoping there is a surge of real college SBs. Been blessed to have 2 loyal long term SBs the last 2 years. Now 22 and 20. Both fulfill what most of us strive for: hot, good sex, no drama. Both are clean so bareback is the norm (yes; with tests to confirm). I have a 3rd who is my ATF sex performer, but got too attached to me. So toned that down from regular to when needed.

Maybe I'm greedy, and I'm also feeling the urge for new SBs and might renew SA. Thoughts. ? Is the grass really greener and do you see a surge in real SB talent?Surge is real.

[Lizard107]

Just reaching out for some advice if there is anywhere for me to go. I just set a SA account and started some engagements. Slow but some traction, and it was all positive. One gal was very interested in talking more, we exchanged more images and initially she was 50 miles away and a student and could not travel, but when I suggested I was in her area and could come to her, and perhaps drinks and dinner for a initial meet, she seemed excited. I feel I made a big mistake as I offered her an invitation to meet for drinks and dinner or whatever she felt would be good, and $100 for her time, and it was clear, just to meet for an introduction. It was positive and she said she was interested.

Today, I logged in and the site said I was banned for Soliciting Sex. There was another woman that emailed me, and offered a massage, I asked a few questions but never really engaged other than asking her what city she was in and she left her number on the first PM. No talk of money or even close to any confirmation that I wanted to meet.

Thoughts.

Thanks. This site is great.

[Hi Rub]

Just reaching out for some advice if there is anywhere for me to go. I just set a SA account and started some engagements. Slow but some traction, and it was all positive. One gal was very interested in talking more, we exchanged more images and initially she was 50 miles away and a student and could not travel, but when I suggested I was in her area and could come to her, and perhaps drinks and dinner for a initial meet, she seemed excited. I feel I made a big mistake as I offered her an invitation to meet for drinks and dinner or whatever she felt would be good, and $100 for her time, and it was clear, just to meet for an introduction. It was positive and she said she was interested.

Today, I logged in and the site said I was banned for Soliciting Sex. There was another woman that emailed me, and offered a massage, I asked a few questions but never really engaged other than asking her what city she was in and she left her number on the first PM. No talk of money or even close to any confirmation that I wanted to meet.

Thoughts.

Thanks. This site is great.You should be able to reply, saying that you do not believe you violated the rules and they might have you review them again and send an email attesting that you will behave. Once, they told me that they would still ban me and I mentioned that I only had a few chats and never mentioned anything illegal and they then issued me a partial pro-rated refund. You could try saying something like: a reasonable person would not infer anything illicit or untoward regarding my conversation history, I believe the person who reported me acted in bad faith because I did not agree to their proposition. Or end it saying that you accused someone of being a fake member and that you think they reported you before you could report them for being a SPAM account. They will only give you 1 second chance if any.

They will not hint why you were banned so you can't guess who did it. Also, they sometimes have the complainant send them screenshots of SMS chats or other evidence. So, moving the discussion to another place does not always work, you could try voice chatting to talk specifics.

Worse case scenario is you can ask your credit card company to reverse the charge claiming that you never signed up. It seems like Seeking does not bother to fight reversals, so bank will reverse and never even ask for your side of story.

Once banned on seeking you will not be able to register again with same email or credit card number, maybe even IP address. I take screenshots of my favorite profiles and messages in case I get banned. With the screenshot I then search for a word that is in their intro and her age and always manage to find them again. If they restore your account I would use it till subscription ends then delete profile and put in a CCPA privacy request for them to delete all your info. Use another email to sign up so that you still have possibility of getting a ban reversed if reported again. Also, they might temporarily ban your account if you send a massive amount of messages in a short time, they will restore once they check a few of your sent messages.

The ladies you send messages to can still see your message after you're banned, so if you have your phone number there sometimes they will still reach out.

[Hi Rub]

This hottie starts of at 1 k for 3 hours then down to 7, but 1. 4 k for ON. She claims to be kinky except for anal and is down for bare. Can host once her visiting friend goes back to home town. She sent me a short vid that I paused for grainy screen cap.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8d168b42-0f3a-4754-84c2-8f0c3ad5735e

[ArrogantBstrd]

Don't talk money or transactions on that site. Try to migrate that conversation to your phone or some other alternate number. I got banned one time just because I asked if she can host.

[MaxKat]

They will not hint why you were banned so you can't guess who did it. Also, they sometimes have the complainant send them screenshots of SMS chats or other evidence. So, moving the discussion to another place does not always work, you could try voice chatting to talk specifics.Wait a sec so I can be banned for a conversation that takes place completely outside of SA, even if the SA messages were completely innocuous? That seems wildly outrageous to me.

[Cubico]

The mostly likely reasons for this (other than in SD, where girls really could come from TJ) is that they are from outside the US (girls or guys looking for online) or that they are using a VPN that takes them through foreign countries. The Tor browser definitely can do this also.And as for the 619 number, you can easily create a google voice number with any area code, so it doesn't prove anything. My experience has been that the ones showing a different country than the one where the city they write in their profile is are scammers. Not saying this one is a scammer, just telling my experience.

[John G Smith]

And I'm hoping there is a surge of real college SBs. Been blessed to have 2 loyal long term SBs the last 2 years. Now 22 and 20. Both fulfill what most of us strive for: hot, good sex, no drama. Both are clean so bareback is the norm (yes; with tests to confirm). I have a 3rd who is my ATF sex performer, but got too attached to me. So toned that down from regular to when needed.

Maybe I'm greedy, and I'm also feeling the urge for new SBs and might renew SA. Thoughts. ? Is the grass really greener and do you see a surge in real SB talent?The grass is always greener my friend. Be happy with what you got.

I'm very similar to you, though not quite as long arrangements. I have a primary baby and a backup baby. The primary is a college senior SB I've been seeing for 6 months and the backup baby is also a college SB that I picked up about a month ago. I've learned over the years it's important to appreciate a good thing and not spread yourself too thin. In the past I've lost some top notch SBs because I got the urge for new strange which meant I kinda shortchanged the primary and she would slip away. Recently and this time, once I found a top notch primary I focused all my resources on her for a few months to solidify the arrangement. Then of course I got a backup that's a tad bit lower maintenance just in case something happens with the primary (she's a college senior with graduation around the corner so life changes are likely). Both SBs are tested and have the perfect body types I like. I have a very good thing going.

I know it's tempting especially since there usually is a "summer surge" of college SBs. You got girls who goto school out of state, but return to San Diego for the summer and want to have extra money in their purse. You got girls you took a year off (or more, LOL) for work and want to make a push to afford community colege classes in the fall. A lot of university juniors that want to afford housing off-campus for the upcoming fall so they're looking for a daddy to help them. I know covid my alter these usual seasonal patterns, but it's possible it could create more of a boom with everything suddenly opening up.

BUT. Just because the stream is overflowing with fish doesn't mean you should toss your 20 pounders back in the river. Just remind yourself how many of those fish are a complete waste of time and energy. Others are swimming with diseases. And with the higher volume of fish sometimes it's harder to spot the good ones. That said two years is a good length for an arrangement. If you're in a rut or bored with your babies then maybe it is a time for a change. It's just even if you take out all the scammers, it's still very difficult to find a reliable, mentally mature, hot body, loyal, disease free with good sexual chemistry SB.

If you want, you can renew your SA sub and take a peak at the current fishing grounds. I imagine it'll look promising on the surface but once you start trying to move things to the next level, you'll see where things really shake out of your net. When I was looking for a backup SB on SA a few months ago, it was a complete bust. But I got lucky that a pot from last summer reached out to me again (she previously flaked) and now that she had a couple of (failed) arrangements under her belt she wanted to try things out with me for real this time. I do think if you're looking for a new college SB, winter and summer breaks are usually the best times to go fishing.

[DrPornDawger]

You should be able to reply, saying that you do not believe you violated the rules and they might have you review them again and send an email attesting that you will behave. Once, they told me that they would still ban me and I mentioned that I only had a few chats and never mentioned anything illegal and they then issued me a partial pro-rated refund. You could try saying something like: a reasonable person would not infer anything illicit or untoward regarding my conversation history, I believe the person who reported me acted in bad faith because I did not agree to their proposition. Or end it saying that you accused someone of being a fake member and that you think they reported you before you could report them for being a SPAM account. They will only give you 1 second chance if any.

They will not hint why you were banned so you can't guess who did it. Also, they sometimes have the complainant send them screenshots of SMS chats or other evidence. So, moving the discussion to another place does not always work, you could try voice chatting to talk specifics.

Worse case scenario is you can ask your credit card company to reverse the charge claiming that you never signed up. It seems like Seeking does not bother to fight reversals, so bank will reverse and never even ask for your side of story.

Once banned on seeking you will not be able to register again with same email or credit card number, maybe even IP address. I take screenshots of my favorite profiles and messages in case I get banned. With the screenshot I then search for a word that is in their intro and her age and always manage to find them again. If they restore your account I would use it till subscription ends then delete profile and put in a CCPA privacy request for them to delete all your info. Use another email to sign up so that you still have possibility of getting a ban reversed if reported again. Also, they might temporarily ban your account if you send a massive amount of messages in a short time, they will restore once they check a few of your sent messages.

The ladies you send messages to can still see your message after you're banned, so if you have your phone number there sometimes they will still reach out.WTF, All these sites are about sex, and now it's illegal?

Geez.

Moustache (Irma La Douce):

"Shows you the kind of world we live in. Love is illegal. But not hate. That you can do anywhere, anytime, to anybody. But if you want a little warmth, a little tenderness, a shoulder to cry on, a smile to cuddle up with, you have to hide in dark corners, like a criminal. Pfui. ".

[Pay to Play]

WTF, All these sites are about sex, and now it's illegal?

Geez.

Moustache (Irma La Douce):

"Shows you the kind of world we live in. Love is illegal. But not hate. That you can do anywhere, anytime, to anybody. But if you want a little warmth, a little tenderness, a shoulder to cry on, a smile to cuddle up with, you have to hide in dark corners, like a criminal. Pfui. ".Well said!

[PussyPumper]

Wait a sec so I can be banned for a conversation that takes place completely outside of SA, even if the SA messages were completely innocuous? That seems wildly outrageous to me.Welcome to SA!

You need to understand that they are dumb, completely dumb.

You also need to understand that they can and do ban people for no apparent reason. And won't tell you even in general.

Power corrupts.

[Poksman]

I'm not one for haggling or discounts but the 25% off subscription made me jump at signing up again so far spent a few hours of messaging flakes. I almost forgot how horrible the hunt is. But I'm sure diamonds are there. Been with a few, happy hunting.

[PussyPumper]

From a profile I noticed today:

"If you are older (15+) . That's a plus.

[DroppinLoadz]

I'm not one for haggling or discounts but the 25% off subscription made me jump at signing up again so far spent a few hours of messaging flakes. I almost forgot how horrible the hunt is. But I'm sure diamonds are there. Been with a few, happy hunting.The hunt is miserable, I hope I find a decent one soon.

[Poksman]

The hunt is miserable, I hope I find a decent one soon.Yes! Sucks. I'm soooo spoiled because my last arrangements were awesome and re-starting is a pain. Here is what I have so far:

https://www.seeking.com/member/df60697a-532f-4cc5-8f7a-b8bc5e3c5e35

200 for coffee M&G and if she wants she'll take you to her place for me. She sent me porn videos of her.

These 2 are flakes asking for 100 to M&G: https://www.seeking.com/member/f2708803-0249-4cd0-a880-30fc860e8c9d.

This is a long time local SA and met her when she was fit and not pregnant. 400 ppm but she started with 700.

: https://www.seeking.com/member/662612a8-c4e7-4711-a4ef-9f6e7389eada.

I'll put in more info later.

[Poksman]

I wish I was doing this on a lap top and not a cell phone but:

Asking for 600 ppm: https://www.seeking.com/member/3313b624-5c40-4a0e-b298-8c1496219f78.

Lives downtown and 800 ppm: https://www.seeking.com/member/5a92d1a1-6612-4b2f-a2af-fdb394758f97.

This one asked for 1. 2 k. Got her down to 1 k. I might try because we FaceTimed and she's hot. She sent me pics too.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879

You can tell they are pros or experienced simply because of use of terms like "private time" or ppm which we all know are monger terms 😂.

Some fails here:

No intimacy: https://www.seeking.com/member/e4b8de71-37f8-4431-82f5-9c6f7c3aa1c4.

Online only BS: https://www.seeking.com/member/b1622495-21b0-4022-a8f5-6d17f650d2f0.

[FarFarAway]

I wish I was doing this on a lap top and not a cell phone but:

Asking for 600 ppm: https://www.seeking.com/member/3313b624-5c40-4a0e-b298-8c1496219f78.

Lives downtown and 800 ppm: https://www.seeking.com/member/5a92d1a1-6612-4b2f-a2af-fdb394758f97.

This one asked for 1. 2 k. Got her down to 1 k. I might try because we FaceTimed and she's hot. She sent me pics too.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879

You can tell they are pros or experienced simply because of use of terms like "private time" or ppm which we all know are monger terms 😂.

Some fails here:

No intimacy: https://www.seeking.com/member/e4b8de71-37f8-4431-82f5-9c6f7c3aa1c4.

Online only BS: https://www.seeking.com/member/b1622495-21b0-4022-a8f5-6d17f650d2f0.I'd advise you to hold off on that. Those are crazy #s. There's a lot of data to suggest that there is almost an inverse relationship between the sugar and the quality of the sex you are going to get. I mean, don't you have any self-respect? LOL. You have to give a girl that much to f* you? I know someone seeing a porn star at a 400 level. Generally, you ought to be able to get the highest quality girl at a max of 500.

Are you negotiating online? That is a big mistake. You must have a M&G to cover this stuff. You are getting the girls 'escort' price if you do it online. They really have no idea what you will be like when you meet in person, so they're going to pad their rate.

[OcasianBoy]

I'd advise you to hold off on that. Those are crazy #s. There's a lot of data to suggest that there is almost an inverse relationship between the sugar and the quality of the sex you are going to get. I mean, don't you have any self-respect? LOL. You have to give a girl that much to f* you? I know someone seeing a porn star at a 400 level. Generally, you ought to be able to get the highest quality girl at a max of 500.

Are you negotiating online? That is a big mistake. You must have a M&G to cover this stuff. You are getting the girls 'escort' price if you do it online. They really have no idea what you will be like when you meet in person, so they're going to pad their rate.It may be true that you can get lower ppm at meet and greet, but most are saying 500+ straight up to meet on SA. I just ask for a meet and greet and most skip to 500+ for a meet. Haha. It's been a while since I've been on SA but wow has inflation been going crazy.

[FarFarAway]

It may be true that you can get lower ppm at meet and greet, but most are saying 500+ straight up to meet on SA. I just ask for a meet and greet and most skip to 500+ for a meet. Haha. It's been a while since I've been on SA but wow has inflation been going crazy.I have a lovely regular SB right now who I give 1000/ mo and we're usually FCing 3 x. Meeting for coffee during her shark week. We're pretty sweet on each other, though. If you just want to treat a SB like an escort, that is what you'll have to pay for (of course it seems that escorts up their rates when they are on SA, because they are posing as low-mileage SBs).

I have a standard set of statements I use if a girl comes back to me on SA w / "ppm? First, that you can't discuss it, you'll get banned. That I'd only discuss $ w / someone I'd met, just like she'd want to meet to discuss particular sex preferences. That's just me, I am looking for a true SB, not an UTR escort. Some guys use it for the latter, I hope that doesn't eventually lead to the downfall of the site, under the FOSTA law.

[FingerLicking]

I wish I was doing this on a lap top and not a cell phone but:

Asking for 600 ppm: https://www.seeking.com/member/3313b624-5c40-4a0e-b298-8c1496219f78.

Lives downtown and 800 ppm: https://www.seeking.com/member/5a92d1a1-6612-4b2f-a2af-fdb394758f97.

This one asked for 1. 2 k. Got her down to 1 k. I might try because we FaceTimed and she's hot. She sent me pics too.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879

You can tell they are pros or experienced simply because of use of terms like "private time" or ppm which we all know are monger terms 😂.

Some fails here:

No intimacy: https://www.seeking.com/member/e4b8de71-37f8-4431-82f5-9c6f7c3aa1c4.

Online only BS: https://www.seeking.com/member/b1622495-21b0-4022-a8f5-6d17f650d2f0.I doubt anybody is paying those numbers. You can probably talk them down after a few weeks because they will still be on SA looking.

[Poksman]

I doubt anybody is paying those numbers. You can probably talk them down after a few weeks because they will still be on SA looking.Thanks for the tips fellas! Yeah that sounds like a lot and I don't want to inflate. TBH my last one, I pay her rent food and shopping so it's def more than 1 k per meet. A lot more. I just don't appreciate the value as much so I'll make sure to haggle down. Value is a perception. (and yes, my last SB is super hot with a big social media presence upwards of 100 k followers).

[FingerLicking]

Thanks for the tips fellas! Yeah that sounds like a lot and I don't want to inflate. TBH my last one, I pay her rent food and shopping so it's def more than 1 k per meet. A lot more. I just don't appreciate the value as much so I'll make sure to haggle down. Value is a perception. (and yes, my last SB is super hot with a big social media presence upwards of 100 k followers).Damn I wish I could swing that kind of cash. Take your time with it and enjoy the hunt. I agree with you. If I am spending 1 k ppm, she must look like an IG model, not be a dead fish, and genuinely desirable. I think most of us on here are squeamish at 500 ppm. It becomes hard to justify spending that much for obvious reasons.

[CPMachine]

She says she wants no more than 200 a week and have to work with her schedule because she has a baby but open to meeting.

When asked her what her availability was like and she said its actually TOTALLY open but needs $60 up front to pay the babysitter hahaha right!

Found to her FB she lives in Ramona, does have a kid but also married. SCAM.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b8e0f3f4-2bc0-4853-b12e-c2b44d02f0bb

[DomBlkMilitar]

Hiroka.

Cute, super short, tatted with a booty late 20's Japanese girl. She talks ALOT. She was not looking for younger dudes and was totally fine with black guys. BBFS, BBBJ, and really good massage. Here are her pics. She wanted 3 for 90 min, but had to provide transportation to and from my incall. Total time spent in room was about 2 hrs. Tipped 2. 5. Her limits: no young guys, Cash only, good hygiene, no cip, no swallow, no anal, and she cannot host. She's super new and recommend because she's "trying to get back home" so when she gets that amount she's going to leave.

Christy (yes the AV actress).

PSE, she's super nice and comfortable with a lot as long as you are comfortable communicating it. Damage was 1 k for 90 min. But she's good with anal, sloppy / messy BBBJ with gagging / dt, bbfscip, multi-pops, and other fetishes. Saw twice, she's not a clock watcher and took an uber / lyft to / from my location when I was in downtown SD. I recommend to anyone who wants to enjoy themselves with someone who can handle it.

Sam.

Black short, nice swollen boobs, fat ass, 5/6 month preggers. Damage was 3 an hr. She can only do weekday evenings. BBBJ, CFS, she's cool with covered anal. Only real downsides were she had a hemorrhoid so she couldn't handle anal and her peach smelled bad so I just focused on BBBJ. She does like you to take control but you can't be all crazy or something.

[PussyPumper]

My SA account is suspended Any idea why?

$1 k is Christy's initial ask. You can do way better if you pre-negotiate. Having ponied up at that rate, she probably won't go down for you. (pun intended).

[DomBlkMilitar]

Melessa. Takes cash / zelle or cash app. Agreed on 3. 5 for 1 hr, 6 for 2 hr for BBBJ, cfs, possible covered anal. She played around too much though and couldn't fit her into my schedule when I had the room downtown. Looks, she's tall for a girl 6 ft, big tits, crew cut haircut. She was down to fuck, so I was down to invest time. If you look for her on SA she's above 5'11" and her profile picture had her standing with a red shirt.

Dulce. Okay with ppm for 3. 5, was open to everything except anal (depends on size). Did get number and don't remember what her profile looked like but she was in 20's I think.

Kayla. 2. 5 for ppm. Was going to meet but I spent my time unwisely else where can't remember what her profile looked like.

[DomBlkMilitar]

Any idea why?

$1 k is Christy's initial ask. You can do way better if you pre-negotiate. Having ponied up at that rate, she probably won't go down for you. (pun intended).I went through a lot of profiles and hid / blocked the ones only seeking online / phone straight on their profile and the ones who were. I'm pretty sure I was reported by the ones that wanted me to pay 1 k for a "dinner interview for their consideration" or some shit.

You are definitely right, I could have pre-negotiated with her but I don't haggle for sex, that way if it's shit they can't say the service was of lower quality because they lowered their donation / rate / asking. When a girl / escort / sb / P.S. Says a price and I'm comfortable with that amount then I expect the service. Not tryin to fuck up the market for everyone else out there but I leave in a couple of days and post covid mongering sucks.

[Cubico]

Hiroka.

Cute, super short, tatted with a booty late 20's Japanese girl. She talks ALOT. She was not looking for younger dudes and was totally fine with black guys. BBFS, BBBJ, and really good massage. Here are her pics. She wanted 3 for 90 min, but had to provide transportation to and from my incall. Total time spent in room was about 2 hrs. Tipped 2. 5. Her limits: no young guys, Cash only, good hygiene, no cip, no swallow, no anal, and she cannot host. She's super new and recommend because she's "trying to get back home" so when she gets that amount she's going to leave.

Christy (yes the AV actress).

PSE, she's super nice and comfortable with a lot as long as you are comfortable communicating it. Damage was 1 k for 90 min. But she's good with anal, sloppy / messy BBBJ with gagging / dt, bbfscip, multi-pops, and other fetishes. Saw twice, she's not a clock watcher and took an uber / lyft to / from my location when I was in downtown SD. I recommend to anyone who wants to enjoy themselves with someone who can handle it.

Sam.

Black short, nice swollen boobs, fat ass, 5/6 month preggers. Damage was 3 an hr. She can only do weekday evenings. BBBJ, CFS, she's cool with covered anal. Only real downsides were she had a hemorrhoid so she couldn't handle anal and her peach smelled bad so I just focused on BBBJ. She does like you to take control but you can't be all crazy or something.Couldn't find Hiroka, is that her username? Did you say you had photos too? I'd be curious to see who she is, she looks really interesting.

TIA.

[FingerLicking]

I went through a lot of profiles and hid / blocked the ones only seeking online / phone straight on their profile and the ones who were. I'm pretty sure I was reported by the ones that wanted me to pay 1 k for a "dinner interview for their consideration" or some shit.

You are definitely right, I could have pre-negotiated with her but I don't haggle for sex, that way if it's shit they can't say the service was of lower quality because they lowered their donation / rate / asking. When a girl / escort / sb / P.S. Says a price and I'm comfortable with that amount then I expect the service. Not tryin to fuck up the market for everyone else out there but I leave in a couple of days and post covid mongering sucks.You can appeal the ban. If it is your first time, they just ask you to confirm that you understand the user agreement.

[OcasianBoy]

You can appeal the ban. If it is your first time, they just ask you to confirm that you understand the user agreement.All of the sudden I got ban myself. Must have been one of the girls I said no to because of her high allowance. I just email them asking for a second chance or a refund. LOL.

[DomBlkMilitar]

Couldn't find Hiroka, is that her username? Did you say you had photos too? I'd be curious to see who she is, she looks really interesting.

TIA.Don't remember Hiroka's username, I spent time searching through a shit ton of profiles though. Her profile keywords were japan and Japanese, so if its not active then maybe hers. I have photos on phone but didn't post due to posting guidelines. And now she's back in japan.

[FarFarAway]

My SB is interested in a cosmetic procedure, she'd like me to pick up the cost in lieu of sugar. The cost here is way beyond a reasonable amount, but what about across the border. Anyone w / any knowledge of cost / quality? If it were 20% of the US price it is in the realm of possibility.

[Cubico]

Don't remember Hiroka's username, I spent time searching through a shit ton of profiles though. Her profile keywords were japan and Japanese, so if its not active then maybe hers. I have photos on phone but didn't post due to posting guidelines. And now she's back in japan.No worries and thanks, I was just curious as she looked quite good, she might have removed her profile when she moved to japan, too bad.

[Lovable]

My SB is interested in a cosmetic procedure, she'd like me to pick up the cost in lieu of sugar. The cost here is way beyond a reasonable amount, but what about across the border. Anyone w / any knowledge of cost / quality? If it were 20% of the US price it is in the realm of possibility.It's WAY less there, I don't have specifics but I've seen the results which were quite good.

[JWalker350]

My SB is interested in a cosmetic procedure, she'd like me to pick up the cost in lieu of sugar. The cost here is way beyond a reasonable amount, but what about across the border. Anyone w / any knowledge of cost / quality? If it were 20% of the US price it is in the realm of possibility.Not safe procedure for cosmetic surgery in TJ. The technique is very poor. Sometimes the girls get worser looking after performing cosmetic surgery in TJ.

[Waxxon]

My SB is interested in a cosmetic procedure, she'd like me to pick up the cost in lieu of sugar. The cost here is way beyond a reasonable amount, but what about across the border. Anyone w / any knowledge of cost / quality? If it were 20% of the US price it is in the realm of possibility.I have heard people talk about good results at half the price. I have personally seen some disastrous results, and you have no recourse from the legal system for malpractice or negligence. I assume your SB is important to you. For me, it is not worth the risk to save a few bucks.

[Poksman]

My SB is interested in a cosmetic procedure, she'd like me to pick up the cost in lieu of sugar. The cost here is way beyond a reasonable amount, but what about across the border. Anyone w / any knowledge of cost / quality? If it were 20% of the US price it is in the realm of possibility.Board certification is essential to make sure fellow physicians are on top of their game. While you can't generalize, the issue here includes: Standards of accreditation vary by geography and by field / specialty. Cosmetic procedures are mostly non covered so less oversight even by insurance. And very " name you price". So it draws in folks in it for the money not patient care. Liability protection is also nonexistent. Lots to consider here before you go do the "healthcare tourism".

[DogBert77]

My SB is interested in a cosmetic procedure, she'd like me to pick up the cost in lieu of sugar. The cost here is way beyond a reasonable amount, but what about across the border. Anyone w / any knowledge of cost / quality? If it were 20% of the US price it is in the realm of possibility.I don't have any knowledge of TJ costs, but I feel I need to mention the elephant in the room. Paying for a cosmetic procedure is sort of an extreme form of paying in advance. We see posts all the time from guys who paid a month's allowance in advance, and then never saw their SB again. Presumably, even in TJ a procedure is going to be more than a month's allowance. I would be worried that after I paid for her bolt-ons, that she would take off with them and I would never get to motor boat them.

[FarFarAway]

I don't have any knowledge of TJ costs, but I feel I need to mention the elephant in the room. Paying for a cosmetic procedure is sort of an extreme form of paying in advance. We see posts all the time from guys who paid a month's allowance in advance, and then never saw their SB again. Presumably, even in TJ a procedure is going to be more than a month's allowance. I would be worried that after I paid for her bolt-ons, that she would take off with them and I would never get to motor boat them.You guys act like I am a moron. I've been here for years and posted a bunch, and had dozens of SBs during that time. Of course I know the risks of trusting someone to deliver who you don't know well. However, I also have had 3 long-term SBs who I did actually give allowance once per month. If you don't have the game to get that sort of girl, I wouldn't do it, obviously. However, I've done it without a problem.

In the case at hand, I'd say the costs would be about 1 month allowance, I'd have proposed doing a few meets with no sugar, then I'd down-payment her plastic surgery. It's always a negotiation. The girl has chickened out, however.

[JWalker350]

I used Vannila prepaid Visa card for SA premium account payment and SA did not accept it. I did activate the zip code. I did not have this problems for last 5 years. How did you pay for yours? Off course, I do not want to use my bank credit cards. Thanks in advance.

[FarFarAway]

I used Vannila prepaid Visa card for SA premium account payment and SA did not accept it. I did activate the zip code. I did not have this problems for last 5 years. How did you pay for yours? Off course, I do not want to use my bank credit cards. Thanks in advance.Just search my posts. I have posted several times on this in the past month, with pictures even.

[JWalker350]

Just search my posts. I have posted several times on this in the past month, with pictures even.Thanks. However, I used exactly the same prepaid card as in your picture and SA rejected the card 2 days ago.

[JWalker350]

Thanks. However, I used exactly the same prepaid card as in your picture and SA rejected the card 2 days ago.I just bought a new prepaid Visa card and it works. It weirds.

[PussyPumper]

I just bought a new prepaid Visa card and it works. It weirds.If you search back, you will see that I posted a query much the same as yours back towards the start of the year.

As with you, I tried to use a OneVanilla card. Rejected.

A few moths later, with another OneVanilla card (and new profile) - accepted!

So, what is going on? Two possibilities, it seems to me.

1. There are in fact different flavors of "OneVanilla" card! If you look, you will notice not only different packaging, but also different websites for checking balance, etc. Could it be that one or more work, and others don't?

2. Do you have any history of having your account suspended or being banned? I do, and have gone through a few accounts. For my most recent successful renewal I started from scratch.

[JWalker350]

If you search back, you will see that I posted a query much the same as yours back towards the start of the year.

As with you, I tried to use a OneVanilla card. Rejected.

A few moths later, with another OneVanilla card (and new profile) - accepted!

So, what is going on? Two possibilities, it seems to me.

1. There are in fact different flavors of "OneVanilla" card! If you look, you will notice not only different packaging, but also different websites for checking balance, etc. Could it be that one or more work, and others don't?

2. Do you have any history of having your account suspended or being banned? I do, and have gone through a few accounts. For my most recent successful renewal I started from scratch.Thanks. However, I am none of above. I bought the same type I used in the past. I checked the packages and it was the same phone number and website to check the balance. The only different is I could not assign the zip code for my vanilla prepaid card: both online or phone number.

[KingBaby]

FYI: Just got the premium w / generic (not rechargeable) Vanilla, works like magic.

[FarFarAway]

FYI: Just got the premium w / generic (not rechargeable) Vanilla, works like magic.May I request you post a shot of the card (ideally, with its packaging) and state where you bought it?

I have recently posted about the next generation of OneVanilla Prepaid I purchased, SecureSpend, but I have NOT tested it on SA.

Just as a reminder to all, often it has been reported if you have a pre-paid that isn't working through the website directly, you can email with SA customer service, give them the info, and they can run it and get it to work.

[KingBaby]

May I request you post a shot of the card (ideally, with its packaging) and state where you bought it?

I have recently posted about the next generation of OneVanilla Prepaid I purchased, SecureSpend, but I have NOT tested it on SA.

Just as a reminder to all, often it has been reported if you have a pre-paid that isn't working through the website directly, you can email with SA customer service, give them the info, and they can run it and get it to work.Sure.

Purchase Location: CVS.

Type of Vanilla (looks like this): https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/a6038d80-cbf9-4e05-8bfc-f39e1b79cb3a_1.6ff3d7e0018e9f43ab412892dd934404.jpeg.

[JWalker350]

Sure.

Purchase Location: CVS.

Type of Vanilla (looks like this): https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/a6038d80-cbf9-4e05-8bfc-f39e1b79cb3a_1.6ff3d7e0018e9f43ab412892dd934404.jpeg.It was exactly what I used last week. The first card did not go through but I bought a second card and it worked. It weirds.

[RyanE36]

What do why'all typically say when a girl asks what it is that you do for work, or where you work? There was a pretty cool chick I hooked up with, she seemed a little upset that I gave her a vague answer, and now she's ignoring me. Don't want to come across as desperate, so I'm going to let it go for a while.

And with that, my list of numbers I got while a member have dried up. I think if there's a 4th of July special on membership I might sign up again, otherwise life is getting busier and I might just be better off focusing on work for a bit.

[FarFarAway]

What do why'all typically say when a girl asks what it is that you do for work, or where you work? There was a pretty cool chick I hooked up with, she seemed a little upset that I gave her a vague answer, and now she's ignoring me. Don't want to come across as desperate, so I'm going to let it go for a while.

And with that, my list of numbers I got while a member have dried up. I think if there's a 4th of July special on membership I might sign up again, otherwise life is getting busier and I might just be better off focusing on work for a bit.Reiterating advice newbies get here, you really need to spend 2-3 days reading the archives of the Richmond VA sugar thread. Everything you need to know about being a SD is there. I recommend having a whole alter ego you use for sugaring, and mongering if you're into that. Your name, address, #s, etc. Should be second nature to you.

[William Monroe]

This has to be one of the worst I've read recently. Whining there right mind would want to be with this?

https://www.seeking.com/member/29784717-106c-4d27-a0e3-e7147eb4647d

[PussyPumper]

This has to be one of the worst I've read recently. Whining there right mind would want to be with this?

https://www.seeking.com/member/29784717-106c-4d27-a0e3-e7147eb4647dSeems to be gone already (or I already blocked!

Can you indicate roughly what was so bad?

[JWalker350]

What do why'all typically say when a girl asks what it is that you do for work, or where you work? There was a pretty cool chick I hooked up with, she seemed a little upset that I gave her a vague answer, and now she's ignoring me. Don't want to come across as desperate, so I'm going to let it go for a while.

And with that, my list of numbers I got while a member have dried up. I think if there's a 4th of July special on membership I might sign up again, otherwise life is getting busier and I might just be better off focusing on work for a bit.I tell my SBs my career but I do not tell them where do I work. I also do not ask them their home address. I mention to my SBs that I respect their private life and prefer they do the same.

[JWalker350]

This has to be one of the worst I've read recently. Whining there right mind would want to be with this?

https://www.seeking.com/member/29784717-106c-4d27-a0e3-e7147eb4647dI think this GPS is worser.

https://www.seeking.com/search?ethnicity=115&limit=25&max-age=31&min-age=18&page=2&radius=0&user_location=e0fa76ba-344d-4525-b24e-dcc0238a913a

[MaxKat]

This has to be one of the worst I've read recently. Whining there right mind would want to be with this?

https://www.seeking.com/member/29784717-106c-4d27-a0e3-e7147eb4647d"I am an ethically non monogamous pan sexual. " WTF? LOL.

[ArrogantBstrd]

"I am an ethically non monogamous pan sexual. " WTF? LOL.She wants $2 K - $3 K a month, but can only meet once or twice a week. No, thanks.

Well, thinking about it now, once a week would be about $500 every meet. Not too bad, but that's all of my beer money. LOL

[FingerLicking]

I tell my SBs my career but I do not tell them where do I work. I also do not ask them their home address. I mention to my SBs that I respect their private life and prefer they do the same.Just FYI. If they have your first name and know what you do for a living, it might be easy to Google your Linkedin profile if you have one.

[PussyPumper]

"I am an ethically non monogamous pan sexual. " WTF? LOL.It means she has many daddies at the same time. She plans to keep a male harem going. Is there a word for that?

[PussyPumper]

What do why'all typically say when a girl asks what it is that you do for work, or where you work? There was a pretty cool chick I hooked up with, she seemed a little upset that I gave her a vague answer, and now she's ignoring me. Don't want to come across as desperate, so I'm going to let it go for a while.

And with that, my list of numbers I got while a member have dried up. I think if there's a 4th of July special on membership I might sign up again, otherwise life is getting busier and I might just be better off focusing on work for a bit.I presume you use a nom-de-plume, not your real name? That should be a given.

FFAway's advice is the ideal.

In general, depending on how generic your work is, the less need you have to be discreet.

If you work in a niche industry or location, then you obviously need to avoid getting into details.

I never go into details, and on the few occasions where an SB has pressed for something more specific, they have.

Accepted it when I say (honestly) that I am not going to go into more detail, as I value discretion. Which I mention on my profile. They seem to understand.

Is your real line of work something that an SB will respond with "wow! Or "ugh!

If Ugh, then you need to invent a cover story anyway!

[Poksman]

Reiterating advice newbies get here, you really need to spend 2-3 days reading the archives of the Richmond VA sugar thread. Everything you need to know about being a SD is there. I recommend having a whole alter ego you use for sugaring, and mongering if you're into that. Your name, address, #s, etc. Should be second nature to you.Agree 100%. I even have a burner IG and Twitter to back up my cover story. I've had SB relationships lasting 2 years and until now they don't know. I also use a very generic alias 😂.

[KingBaby]

What do why'all typically say when a girl asks what it is that you do for work, or where you work? There was a pretty cool chick I hooked up with, she seemed a little upset that I gave her a vague answer, and now she's ignoring me. Don't want to come across as desperate, so I'm going to let it go for a while.

And with that, my list of numbers I got while a member have dried up. I think if there's a 4th of July special on membership I might sign up again, otherwise life is getting busier and I might just be better off focusing on work for a bit.You are not missing anything man.

I regret getting my premium from the middle of the month. It's absolutely DEAD out there. Mostly because the 4 major colleges are NOT open. I see UTRs, GPSs, lonely housewives thinking it's 1996 (when they were actually 18.) LOL. I should have waited till the Fall when college girls are back.

[Waxxon]

These two looking mighty suspicious.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9e1fc181-62bc-4711-b0ac-3239c57288ff

https://www.seeking.com/member/3fce6e38-6f27-481c-91af-d34f087fb95e

Won't guess as to the motives here, you can decide for yourself.

[JWalker350]

These two looking mighty suspicious.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9e1fc181-62bc-4711-b0ac-3239c57288ff

https://www.seeking.com/member/3fce6e38-6f27-481c-91af-d34f087fb95e

Won't guess as to the motives here, you can decide for yourself.I saw the first one profile yesterday but decided not to message her. I did contact the second one last week. Sounds like a pro.

[CPMachine]

These two looking mighty suspicious.

https://www.seeking.com/member/9e1fc181-62bc-4711-b0ac-3239c57288ff

https://www.seeking.com/member/3fce6e38-6f27-481c-91af-d34f087fb95e

Won't guess as to the motives here, you can decide for yourself.First one gave me her number on the first message, changed pics in last 24.

2nd said wanted someone who was submissive to take to your goddess- pass.

[Waxxon]

First one gave me her number on the first message, changed pics in last 24.

2nd said wanted someone who was submissive to take to your goddess- pass.Immediately noticed their written profiles are almost exactly the same. Pros working under a booker and / or an organizer.

[PussyPumper]

Got two emails this morning (Thursday).

One offered 25% off, the second 33%.

No idea why the difference.

Glad I waited. I guessed there would be a sale for 4th of July!

[JWalker350]

Does anyone know the SBs have a cheat sheet somewhere on the internet lately? Looks like they do the same thing as well as asking same questions. Secondly, they are mostly using internet phone numbers or google voice, no more real cell phone numbers.

[PussyPumper]

What do you guys say to or give to an SB who wants to see your package?

Scenario is she has been sending sexy pics, and want to see "what I will be dealing with".

Do you give her a pic?

Or say something?

[Poksman]

Does anyone know the SBs have a cheat sheet somewhere on the internet lately? Looks like they do the same thing as well as asking same questions. Secondly, they are mostly using internet phone numbers or google voice, no more real cell phone numbers.Yes. Follow #sugardating or some other related hashtags. You will see lots of TikTok videos giving people tips.

[Jason619]

Got two emails this morning (Thursday).

One offered 25% off, the second 33%.

No idea why the difference.

Glad I waited. I guessed there would be a sale for 4th of July!Thanks for mentioning this! I had been planning to sign up again and didn't see the email.

[Waxxon]

What is the story with all the filters, airbrush, makeup, face facade, doctored, photoshopped, horrendous plastic surgery gone bad or whatever these wannabe SBs are doing. It used to be sticking their tongues out and all the tats. Combine that with the spoil me princesses, I know what I'm worth gps'ers. Or could this be the next phase post Rona pandemic and a lot less online only scams. Am considering subscribing with the Independence Day special, but after looking what's online even though there are some "normal" sb's, I'm having second thoughts.

Is it really this bad or did I check the availables on an off day.

[JWalker350]

What is the story with all the filters, airbrush, makeup, face facade, doctored, photoshopped, horrendous plastic surgery gone bad or whatever these wannabe SBs are doing. It used to be sticking their tongues out and all the tats. Combine that with the spoil me princesses, I know what I'm worth gps'ers. Or could this be the next phase post Rona pandemic and a lot less online only scams. Am considering subscribing with the Independence Day special, but after looking what's online even though there are some "normal" sb's, I'm having second thoughts.

Is it really this bad or did I check the availables on an off day.You are right. I have one week left for membership and do not plan to renew it unless more new girls. 1/3 of girls on SA have been there for years while 1/3 are just looking for platonic arrangements. I have spending hours to make the deals then they got lost or deactivated.

[Waxxon]

You are right. I have one week left for membership and do not plan to renew it unless more new girls. 1/3 of girls on SA have been there for years while 1/3 are just looking for platonic arrangements. I have spending hours to make the deals then they got lost or deactivated.Agree with the breakdown. Also a lot of out of towners or not in the US girls trolling here. Not going to subscribe for now until the roster improves.

[Dudeonthecouch]

Just had a horrific experience with this ****.

https://www.seeking.com/member/4764bb19-7569-4785-9ec1-639048fd62d1

I messaged her in the morning, and she text me back quickly and we agreyed on everything. Met at a restaurant and she was taller and fatter then her pictures. We order take out and step out to sit in my car while the food was being prepared. She's a former stripper and was asking for money upfront, I said no, after only.

She starts pretending to be brand new on the site and bla h blah. I'm not liking her vibe, so I told her I don't think we will hit it off, no chemistry, and offered $60 for gas. She was insulted an said she's not taking my money and we will work it out. I told her that's ok, your not my type.

***** refused to get out of my car. I put the cash in a socket in her bag and tell her, good luck. She started demanding another $40 or else she wouldn't get out of my car. I come around to the passenger side window and open the door and invite her out. She refuses and pulls out her phone and starts recording me. I grab her phone and put it on the ground, she runs out of the car to get it. She's blocking me from leaving. Meanwhile, the whole time yelling I'm going to jail and making a scene.

The restaurant was next to a drive through and people are witnessing the whole scene. I finally get into my car and leave. She said she will accuse me of assault and she took a picture of my license plate.

I will keep you guys posted. Be careful out there.

I've been at this for years and years. I first joined SA back in 2011 and have met at least 200 girls off there. The worst are strippers, stay the fuck away from them.

[KingBaby]

Just had a horrific experience with this ****.

https://www.seeking.com/member/4764bb19-7569-4785-9ec1-639048fd62d1

I messaged her in the morning, and she text me back quickly and we agreyed on everything. Met at a restaurant and she was taller and fatter then her pictures. We order take out and step out to sit in my car while the food was being prepared. She's a former stripper and was asking for money upfront, I said no, after only.

She starts pretending to be brand new on the site and bla h blah. I'm not liking her vibe, so I told her I don't think we will hit it off, no chemistry, and offered $60 for gas. She was insulted an said she's not taking my money and we will work it out. I told her that's ok, your not my type.

***** refused to get out of my car. I put the cash in a socket in her bag and tell her, good luck. She started demanding another $40 or else she wouldn't get out of my car. I come around to the passenger side window and open the door and invite her out. She refuses and pulls out her phone and starts recording me. I grab her phone and put it on the ground, she runs out of the car to get it. She's blocking me from leaving. Meanwhile, the whole time yelling I'm going to jail and making a scene.

The restaurant was next to a drive through and people are witnessing the whole scene. I finally get into my car and leave. She said she will accuse me of assault and she took a picture of my license plate.

I will keep you guys posted. Be careful out there.

I've been at this for years and years. I first joined SA back in 2011 and have met at least 200 girls off there. The worst are strippers, stay the fuck away from them.Thank you so much for sharing and I am sorry for the experience.

We really should have a "no flight list" here on SA. At least within our SD County.

[FingerLicking]

Just had a horrific experience with this ****.

https://www.seeking.com/member/4764bb19-7569-4785-9ec1-639048fd62d1

I messaged her in the morning, and she text me back quickly and we agreyed on everything. Met at a restaurant and she was taller and fatter then her pictures. We order take out and step out to sit in my car while the food was being prepared. She's a former stripper and was asking for money upfront, I said no, after only.

She starts pretending to be brand new on the site and bla h blah. I'm not liking her vibe, so I told her I don't think we will hit it off, no chemistry, and offered $60 for gas. She was insulted an said she's not taking my money and we will work it out. I told her that's ok, your not my type.

***** refused to get out of my car. I put the cash in a socket in her bag and tell her, good luck. She started demanding another $40 or else she wouldn't get out of my car. I come around to the passenger side window and open the door and invite her out. She refuses and pulls out her phone and starts recording me. I grab her phone and put it on the ground, she runs out of the car to get it. She's blocking me from leaving. Meanwhile, the whole time yelling I'm going to jail and making a scene.

The restaurant was next to a drive through and people are witnessing the whole scene. I finally get into my car and leave. She said she will accuse me of assault and she took a picture of my license plate.

I will keep you guys posted. Be careful out there.

I've been at this for years and years. I first joined SA back in 2011 and have met at least 200 girls off there. The worst are strippers, stay the fuck away from them.Yikes. Sorry this happened to you.

[JWalker350]

Just had a horrific experience with this ****.

https://www.seeking.com/member/4764bb19-7569-4785-9ec1-639048fd62d1

I messaged her in the morning, and she text me back quickly and we agreyed on everything. Met at a restaurant and she was taller and fatter then her pictures. We order take out and step out to sit in my car while the food was being prepared. She's a former stripper and was asking for money upfront, I said no, after only.

She starts pretending to be brand new on the site and bla h blah. I'm not liking her vibe, so I told her I don't think we will hit it off, no chemistry, and offered $60 for gas. She was insulted an said she's not taking my money and we will work it out. I told her that's ok, your not my type.

***** refused to get out of my car. I put the cash in a socket in her bag and tell her, good luck. She started demanding another $40 or else she wouldn't get out of my car. I come around to the passenger side window and open the door and invite her out. She refuses and pulls out her phone and starts recording me. I grab her phone and put it on the ground, she runs out of the car to get it. She's blocking me from leaving. Meanwhile, the whole time yelling I'm going to jail and making a scene.

The restaurant was next to a drive through and people are witnessing the whole scene. I finally get into my car and leave. She said she will accuse me of assault and she took a picture of my license plate.

I will keep you guys posted. Be careful out there.

I've been at this for years and years. I first joined SA back in 2011 and have met at least 200 girls off there. The worst are strippers, stay the fuck away from them.Thanks for the information. Sorry for your bad experience.

[JWalker350]

There's a scammer on SA (login as Candy) that asked me $100 paid in advance before M&G. I told her I do not pay via any apps and only scammers ask for payment in advance and she reported it to SA. I just received a warning from SA. I do not understand why SA allows scammers and gave me a warning for calling her as scammer. She indeed is.

[Oops0001]

I am interested in SA game and am doing my research before I actually subscribe the membership. I have read 20 pages of this thread at this point. I have often heard to read Richmond VA sugar thread but I don't know where to find it. Can you direct me where? Also some terminology, like FC that I couldn't find anywhere. Is there any terminology link? Thank you in advance.

[BearD]

I am interested in SA game and am doing my research before I actually subscribe the membership. I have read 20 pages of this thread at this point. I have often heard to read Richmond VA sugar thread but I don't know where to find it. Can you direct me where? Also some terminology, like FC that I couldn't find anywhere. Is there any terminology link? Thank you in advance.http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-Not

[Waxxon]

There's a scammer on SA (login as Candy) that asked me $100 paid in advance before M&G. I told her I do not pay via any apps and only scammers ask for payment in advance and she reported it to SA. I just received a warning from SA. I do not understand why SA allows scammers and gave me a warning for calling her as scammer. She indeed is.Was this done on the SA message system? Or by private text. When a wannabe sb brings up anything to do with money, I deflect and let them know I don't discuss details on the SA system. Rightly so she is a scammer to us, who knows what's going through her mind. I guess she expects us to give her 100 to watch her sit there and be a complete waste of oxygen.

[JWalker350]

I am interested in SA game and am doing my research before I actually subscribe the membership. I have read 20 pages of this thread at this point. I have often heard to read Richmond VA sugar thread but I don't know where to find it. Can you direct me where? Also some terminology, like FC that I couldn't find anywhere. Is there any terminology link? Thank you in advance.It is on the top of the page.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations

Regarding Richmond posts, if you can not find it on this site, you should not joint the SA game.

[JWalker350]

Was this done on the SA message system? Or by private text. When a wannabe sb brings up anything to do with money, I deflect and let them know I don't discuss details on the SA system. Rightly so she is a scammer to us, who knows what's going through her mind. I guess she expects us to give her 100 to watch her sit there and be a complete waste of oxygen.It was on SA website. She did not want to give out her number. She said I have to send her $100 before M&G. She is no longer on SA.

[Oops0001]

It is on the top of the page.

http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/custompages.php?pageid=Abbreviations

Regarding Richmond posts, if you can not find it on this site, you should not joint the SA game.


http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?9746-quot-Sugarbabies-quot-quot-Arrangements-quot-Amateurs-or-NotThank you for your suggestions, BearD and JWaker350. Much appreciated.

[PussyPumper]

There's a scammer on SA (login as Candy) that asked me $100 paid in advance before M&G. I told her I do not pay via any apps and only scammers ask for payment in advance and she reported it to SA. I just received a warning from SA. I do not understand why SA allows scammers and gave me a warning for calling her as scammer. She indeed is.What did she report you for? Did you say anything against T&C earlier?

Lesson from this: If you suspect that she is a scammer, and have firm evidence, then report her. Scammers are trigger happy and tend to report SDs who turn them down. You really need to get your retaliation in first. In this case. Seems obvious that she broke SA T&C as she asked for money up front. Report!

As for SA warning you. Did you reply pointing out that it is documented that she broke their T&C, and wondering what it was that you did to merit a warning?

[JWalker350]

What did she report you for? Did you say anything against T&C earlier?

Lesson from this: If you suspect that she is a scammer, and have firm evidence, then report her. Scammers are trigger happy and tend to report SDs who turn them down. You really need to get your retaliation in first. In this case. Seems obvious that she broke SA T&C as she asked for money up front. Report!

As for SA warning you. Did you reply pointing out that it is documented that she broke their T&C, and wondering what it was that you did to merit a warning?SA said I used offensive language and something similar to it. I just told her "I know who you are, scammer. ".

I also said "I am looking for an arrangement but not to scam or being scammed to / by anyone. ".

She told me:

"$100.

I also have been stood up twice now so I expect pay before hand.

We could though I don't drink coffee but I could get a tea or something. I have been stood up in the past though so I do collect money before leaving my house.

I made an exception once and was stood up again so I'm very firm on that stance. ".

[JWalker350]

What did she report you for? Did you say anything against T&C earlier?

Lesson from this: If you suspect that she is a scammer, and have firm evidence, then report her. Scammers are trigger happy and tend to report SDs who turn them down. You really need to get your retaliation in first. In this case. Seems obvious that she broke SA T&C as she asked for money up front. Report!

As for SA warning you. Did you reply pointing out that it is documented that she broke their T&C, and wondering what it was that you did to merit a warning?Thanks. Lesson learned.

[Pay to Play]

There's a scammer on SA (login as Candy) that asked me $100 paid in advance before M&G. I told her I do not pay via any apps and only scammers ask for payment in advance and she reported it to SA. I just received a warning from SA. I do not understand why SA allows scammers and gave me a warning for calling her as scammer. She indeed is.Any request for money on SA can be considered a violation and get you banned. They ban dudes for anything suggesting a transaction for sex. Any request for money up front is a scam. Once I confirm they are looking for a FWB thing I move them to text using a untraceable phone number. Once there move them to discuss money quickly. You will get many that give you a number agree to meet and then comes the pitch. It will go something like "can you help me with gas money?" Again, remember any request for money before meeting is a scam. Don't give them anything can hold over you, I. E. Work, real number last name. These are all good ways to be a victim of sextortion.

[DogBert77]

I am interested in SA game and am doing my research before I actually subscribe the membership. I have read 20 pages of this thread at this point. I have often heard to read Richmond VA sugar thread but I don't know where to find it. Can you direct me where? Also some terminology, like FC that I couldn't find anywhere. Is there any terminology link? Thank you in advance.FC = Fuck Chamber, the place where you take your Sugar Baby to fuck her. The Hilton, Notel Motel, your dorm room, back seat of your car parked in Walmart parking lot, however you roll.

There is an "Abbreviations" tab on menu bar at top of page, but it is missing a lot of the sugar bowl specific terms. Enjoy, and may the pussy be with you.

[JWalker350]

Any request for money on SA can be considered a violation and get you banned. They ban dudes for anything suggesting a transaction for sex. Any request for money up front is a scam. Once I confirm they are looking for a FWB thing I move them to text using a untraceable phone number. Once there move them to discuss money quickly. You will get many that give you a number agree to meet and then comes the pitch. It will go something like "can you help me with gas money?" Again, remember any request for money before meeting is a scam. Don't give them anything can hold over you, I. E. Work, real number last name. These are all good ways to be a victim of sextortion.I rarely offer money on SA. Always by text. Candy asked me for money upfront and did not want to use text. Yes! I never tell any girl my real name, even my currently SB (2 years) does not know my real name, work, etc.

[Oops0001]

FC = Fuck Chamber, the place where you take your Sugar Baby to fuck her. The Hilton, Notel Motel, your dorm room, back seat of your car parked in Walmart parking lot, however you roll.

There is an "Abbreviations" tab on menu bar at top of page, but it is missing a lot of the sugar bowl specific terms. Enjoy, and may the pussy be with you.Thanks, DogBert77! Yes, I agree! SD related terms are missing there.

Here is my contribution to community.

https://www.seeking.com/member/547b3b37-9894-4073-86e7-c78b9a0343eb

She asked me to give her 2 for every meeting (just lunch / coffee / walk) to see how serious I am (2-3 times) and once moved to intimate meeting, she wants 1 K. GPS.

https://www.seeking.com/member/600f713e-cc0c-40c7-8486-092eaab82b95

Only looking for platonic. Very cute but I passed.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8fe7b6ad-dc05-4a07-a5b8-78a7a5cb15e6

She seems to be very nice and patient. I haven't met her yet. Wanted 6 but negotiated to 4. But I need FC. Does anyone try her? I would like to hear how she was.

[JWalker350]

Thanks, DogBert77! Yes, I agree! SD related terms are missing there.

Here is my contribution to community.

https://www.seeking.com/member/547b3b37-9894-4073-86e7-c78b9a0343eb

She asked me to give her 2 for every meeting (just lunch / coffee / walk) to see how serious I am (2-3 times) and once moved to intimate meeting, she wants 1 K. GPS.

https://www.seeking.com/member/600f713e-cc0c-40c7-8486-092eaab82b95

Only looking for platonic. Very cute but I passed.

https://www.seeking.com/member/8fe7b6ad-dc05-4a07-a5b8-78a7a5cb15e6

She seems to be very nice and patient. I haven't met her yet. Wanted 6 but negotiated to 4. But I need FC. Does anyone try her? I would like to hear how she was.Regarding the last girl, you should ask her for coffee or lunch meeting first in order to know how does she look like before taking her to FC.

[RazorFish1801]

Gents.

Won't repeat.

Private message me for details.

[CPMachine]

https://www.seeking.com/member/2bbdd9a5-a756-4547-9ff4-c5dd5263bb1d

This one offered PPM $600- its pay per meet not per pound YIKES.

[JWalker350]

https://www.seeking.com/member/2bbdd9a5-a756-4547-9ff4-c5dd5263bb1d

This one offered PPM $600- its pay per meet not per pound YIKES.Same thing for this girl. She claims playing volleyball but I do not know how can she jumps with her big body. Ask for ppm $500.

https://www.seeking.com/member/aabf126f-7547-478b-b0c6-7721bcbe91be

[Waxxon]

https://www.seeking.com/member/2bbdd9a5-a756-4547-9ff4-c5dd5263bb1d

This one offered PPM $600- its pay per meet not per pound YIKES.Yikes, that's what I call inflation. In more ways than one.

Are guys out there paying this much for any of the sb's these days?

[FingerLicking]

Yikes, that's what I call inflation. In more ways than one.

Are guys out there paying this much for any of the sb's these days?Yeah I refuse to believe she has ever commanded that price.

[FarFarAway]

Yeah I refuse to believe she has ever commanded that price.Yeah, so recall the days before FASTA, where girls had a thing on their profiles, where they could list the allowance they were seeking - 'practical' was like 1000/ mo, and it went up from there. The advice from veterans was to absolutely ignore those numbers. Sure, you might see a smoking hot girl who could reasonably expect to get some of the higher ranges for the exclusive relationships they were seeking, but otherwise, not. These things are all negotiable, and if you recall the phenomenon of 'pinning', where the person who names the price first sets the negotiating agenda, you understand why they do this. Of course, this has nothing to do with what someone will agree to. I always negotiate in person, and never let the topic of $ come into electronic negotiation. No girl wants to get rejected, but it is easier if it is via messaging, her ask will be less face to face.

[KingBaby]

This is the problem of this "Hack Culture." They all just go onto Tiktok / Youtube / Reddit. They have "tutorials" online and they "teach" you what & you should put in the profile & tag line. They even have "templates." That's why you see stuff like "I am here for a good time not a long time. " Or the "What are you looking for?" "I know my worth." "How much for the M&G?"

The $500/$600 PPMs is what the tutorials "suggest." So all the ppl who were doing the videos of course wanna increase her "subscriber/followers," that's why they were making claims like "1K PPM," "800 PPM," "follow my steps you will be making the same thing too."

[ArrogantBstrd]

Yikes, that's what I call inflation. In more ways than one.

Are guys out there paying this much for any of the sb's these days?When on travel, I usually do $300 - $500 "per meet," but we usually end up meeting extra for free in between paid meets. I stay away from pros and semi-pros. Oddly enough, the SBs I have met with were in the medical field or medical students. They didn't have time for traditional dating. Sessions were like having your girlfriend over for a few hours, then sending her ass home. I met an SB one time when I was on extended travel for work. She was a dentist. She owned her own house, and she was a super nympho. Ball-draining sessions, but it was a hard $300 every meet. I found another SB on that same trip who after we agreed on some amount, I ended up just paying a few of her bills, which was less than the amount that we agreed to for PPM.

My last run on SA a few months ago, SBs were asking for $500 ish, but they wanted me to get the hotel room. I'll pass on sugaring for now. I'm under too much of a time constriction at home. lol

[JWalker350]

This is the problem of this "Hack Culture." They all just go onto Tiktok / Youtube / Reddit. They have "tutorials" online and they "teach" you what & you should put in the profile & tag line. They even have "templates." That's why you see stuff like "I am here for a good time not a long time. " Or the "What are you looking for?" "I know my worth." "How much for the M&G?"

The $500/$600 PPMs is what the tutorials "suggest." So all the ppl who were doing the videos of course wanna increase her "subscriber/followers," that's why they were making claims like "1K PPM," "800 PPM," "follow my steps you will be making the same thing too."I am totally agree with KB. Multiple girls asked me the same questions, amount ppm, etc. Looks like they cut and paste from the scripts.

[KingBaby]

https://www.seeking.com/member/35a3a3c6-2617-4027-8221-32f05586655d

She has a script and telling you that she'll only send you photos. Once you refuse, she will accuse you being cheap & be a scam. 619 number. Well, reported.

[Oops0001]

I got message from a girl below saying I am female escort. I texted her to ask the details and she told me 100 hr 200/2 hr including all service no limit. I didn't buy her story but did anyone try her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/ad1cca1b-f3a1-4159-9e1d-020c7cc35d74

[Oops0001]

I got message from a girl below saying I am female escort. I texted her to ask the details and she told me 100 hr 200/2 hr including all service no limit. I didn't buy her story but did anyone try her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/ad1cca1b-f3a1-4159-9e1d-020c7cc35d74Her profile has been deleted. Here was the photo. It could be scam or pro.

[SNathan]

I got message from a girl below saying I am female escort. I texted her to ask the details and she told me 100 hr 200/2 hr including all service no limit. I didn't buy her story but did anyone try her?

https://www.seeking.com/member/ad1cca1b-f3a1-4159-9e1d-020c7cc35d74She asks for $50 donation and try to scam you. Be aware of her.

SA SD scene is pretty inflated currently. If you want a good looking young SB it's around $500 ppm minimum or $2000/ month.

The attitude the SB shows is beyond belief.

I would prefer to stay out of this for time being. If necessary can use HX.

[OcasianBoy]

Her profile has been deleted. Here was the photo. It could be scam or pro.New profile here.

https://www.seeking.com/member/3d9f2467-3226-4522-8113-e3d869bd6186

[JWalker350]

She asks for $50 donation and try to scam you. Be aware of her.

SA SD scene is pretty inflated currently. If you want a good looking young SB it's around $500 ppm minimum or $2000/ month.

The attitude the SB shows is beyond belief.

I would prefer to stay out of this for time being. If necessary can use HX.50% of girls on SA even asked me 700-800 ppm. One girl said her friend got $5 K per month. I told her that her friend should not go to school or work since $5 K a month equivalent to $100 K a year after tax and she just spend 2-3 hours per week with SD. I also told her to find 5 SDs so she can get 1/2 million dollars per year. A very good job.
Two girls asked me 500 for meet and greet, one girl asked for 300 for coffee date.

[SNathan]

50% of girls on SA even asked me 700-800 ppm. One girl said her friend got $5 K per month. I told her that her friend should not go to school or work since $5 K a month equivalent to $100 K a year after tax and she just spend 2-3 hours per week with SD. I also told her to find 5 SDs so she can get 1/2 million dollars per year. A very good job.
Two girls asked me 500 for meet and greet, one girl asked for 300 for coffee date.At Jwalker Exactly they could do this as a full time job without going to school. I am. Not sure why the SD are paying this much and inflating the prices where people don't even need to go to school.

This is insane what I witnessed ln SA which was different couple of years back where you could get a very hot SB for 300 ppm max.

[JWalker350]

New profile here.

https://www.seeking.com/member/3d9f2467-3226-4522-8113-e3d869bd6186It is not scam. She is an escort. I chatted number of girls on day time that I saw their location was San Diego then later at night, I saw they were at different locations such as Orange County, LA, Las Vegas, Arizona, New York or Chicago, etc. They are pros, just move around to find men.

[City Slicker]

It's b / c of youtube and the news doing SA piece and how women are profiting. Agreed, 300 ppm back then used to be the upper tiers fir 9 and 10's babes. Now, everyone's base is like 5 hundie. When they are really skanks.


At Jwalker Exactly they could do this as a full time job without going to school. I am. Not sure why the SD are paying this much and inflating the prices where people don't even need to go to school.

This is insane what I witnessed ln SA which was different couple of years back where you could get a very hot SB for 300 ppm max.

[JWalker350]

It's b / c of youtube and the news doing SA piece and how women are profiting. Agreed, 300 ppm back then used to be the upper tiers fir 9 and 10's babes. Now, everyone's base is like 5 hundie. When they are really skanks.As long as no one pays that much, the price has to be down. I hold very firm on max price of 300 when dealing with them. I still have my long term SB.

[SNathan]

Gents.

Won't repeat.

Private message me for details.Anyone seen her?? She is trying to get in touch with me multiple times.

Not sure if she is genuine.

[Waxxon]

As long as no one pays that much, the price has to be down. I hold very firm on max price of 300 when dealing with them. I still have my long term SB.Don't cave and overpay. Things may have nudged up, but 500 seems crazy gps. My reasoning, just about all POT will immediately agree to 500 because that's like hitting a jackpot. Most will easily agree to 400 and with some negotiation quite a few will take 300. If you are a skilled negotiator, have some game, you can do even better. It's market dynamics, if guys fold their cards easily and overpay, it just drives up the ppm because it becomes too easy for them to cash in. I'm at 1200/ mo with my ATF and she is just as GFE and more as any serious GF I've ever had and we spend several hours together. Granted we've known each other for almost 2 years. A couple alternates I met early this year are happy with 200. I believe it works for them because I live nearby, they feel safe and it's convenient and fun. I just say no to gps, if they are not happy with 100+/ hr, they can go hungry. Don't forget, there are other POT sbs out there

[JWalker350]

Thank you so much for sharing and I am sorry for the experience.

We really should have a "no flight list" here on SA. At least within our SD County.Yes. I am totally agree with no flight list. Please create one. Thanks.

[Dudeonthecouch]

1. Never ever pay for meet and greet, no play no pay.

2. always ask for a full view / recent pic showing the whole body, fatties zoom in on their face to hide their figure, preferably video call.

3. set the expectations ahead of time, be clear and confident in what you are looking for.

4. don't get stuck on one chic, these girls are fickle, you need a plan a, b, c, and D.

5. If you see a girl and bang her, her biggest fear is that you will never see her again, make sure to tell her you are looking for a regular that appreciates you and wants to make you happy, whatever it takes to please you. This is to ensure she gives it her all, there are a lot of lazy girls that think you a desperate and will accept a shitty time.

6. this should have been number 1, never ever send any money before meeting. Not even 1 cent, this is for sure a scam.

7. meet in a setting with an easy out, preferably coffee, smoothie, ice cream, drinks. Lunch or dinner can be awkward if a fatty that you don't want to be around shows up.

8. don't be afraid to discuss expectations beforehand. Shitty escorts are taking over SA, that think that a shitty experience with them is worth $500. Had to kick a girl out of my house that wanted $600 for no kissing, CBJ, I told her I was insulted, and want to be treated like how she would treat a bf. She left promptly.

9. never ever pay any cash upfront. Always after the deed is done. Another sneaky thing is they will pretend they were scammed or fucked and not paid, its bullshit, they are the scammers.

10. Also girls that want to text too much before meeting and chat too much, don't give in to their time wasting, tell them lets continue the conversation in person, lets meet at whatever day or time suits you.

11. You call the shots, you set the terms, this is your arrangement. If you she is cool with it great, if not there are plenty of others that are down with your program whatever it may be.

12. I've had to evolve and change my techniques over the years, in the past, I would take a lot more chances and score a gem, these days, can't take those same chances and risks anymore. Its a minefield, but there are still gems to be found.

13. Report all scammers and block their number and account, post a warning. I've had some bad experiences, some I am embarrassed about because I knew better, but stick to your guns and have confidence you will score.

14. Have fun and stay positive, have a friendly profile, any negativity in your profile can be a disqualifies for lots of girls.

15. Get Laid. That's what its all about, good luck out there.

[Jedi69]

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8. Shitty escorts are taking over SA, that think that a shitty experience with them is worth $500. Had to kick a girl out of my house that wanted $600 for no kissing, CBJ, I told her I was insulted, and want to be treated like how she would treat a bf. She left promptly.Wrong. You never invite a hooker in your own home. Her gangbanger BF sitting in their beat up Honda parked in your driveway casing your place while you fuck her on the couch where you sleep at night.

Don't shit in your own backyard, especially if you live in one of the most expensive zip codes in CA. That's what hotels are for.

[RyanE36]

Did a M&G with a girl the other day. Seems pretty cool. Actually I happened to message her on her first day of being on SA. Just went through a divorce, said she has a good job, just needs some emotional and physical support, and would appreciate some gifts here and there. Didn't specify any amounts, or what kinds of gifts. Said she's not necessarily looking for anything sexual right now, but more like platonic cuddling and movie watching and stuff. Also not looking to get involved long term.

Still new to the game, didn't want to potentially ruin something by being too forward. The vibe I got is something mostly platonic, someone to keep her company now that she's single, until she can find someone more her age to actually date. But who knows what happens when you're cuddling up on a couch watching a movie, right? She was cute, seemed cool, and pretty young. I think potential is there for this to be something good. Should I invest the time for something that may never move past platonic? How much would you give gift wise? Or just an allowance? Start small and see how it goes? Or actually try and nail down numbers we'd both be ok with?

[Pay to Play]

Did a M&G with a girl the other day. Seems pretty cool. Actually I happened to message her on her first day of being on SA. Just went through a divorce, said she has a good job, just needs some emotional and physical support, and would appreciate some gifts here and there. Didn't specify any amounts, or what kinds of gifts. Said she's not necessarily looking for anything sexual right now, but more like platonic cuddling and movie watching and stuff. Also not looking to get involved long term.

Still new to the game, didn't want to potentially ruin something by being too forward. The vibe I got is something mostly platonic, someone to keep her company now that she's single, until she can find someone more her age to actually date. But who knows what happens when you're cuddling up on a couch watching a movie, right? She was cute, seemed cool, and pretty young. I think potential is there for this to be something good. Should I invest the time for something that may never move past platonic? How much would you give gift wise? Or just an allowance? Start small and see how it goes? Or actually try and nail down numbers we'd both be ok with?SA is full of women with the same story. Not yours is not legit, but it is an art to keep you thinking there might be the potential of more so that you keep investing. IMO, you can do that for free through any dating site. If I don't get laid on the first date from SA I'm out. If she really just wanted company why would she be on a site that is entirely geared up the SB life style. Good luck if you choose to move forward, or you can keep searching and easily find one that will put out first meet. My average is 300-400 per meet. I have only had one date on SA where I didn't get laid first meet. That one it became pretty obvious she was playing me and never saw her again.

[PussyPumper]

Yes. I am totally agree with no flight list. Please create one. Thanks.Already reported here several times over last few years, IIRC.

https://www.seeking.com/member/0cdc3ef9-da0f-4d66-9340-600d6d5168a0

[RyanE36]

SA is full of women with the same story. Not yours is not legit, but it is an art to keep you thinking there might be the potential of more so that you keep investing. IMO, you can do that for free through any dating site. If I don't get laid on the first date from SA I'm out. If she really just wanted company why would she be on a site that is entirely geared up the SB life style. Good luck if you choose to move forward, or you can keep searching and easily find one that will put out first meet. My average is 300-400 per meet. I have only had one date on SA where I didn't get laid first meet. That one it became pretty obvious she was playing me and never saw her again.Fair points. I guess I was thinking along the lines of if we're hanging out for a couple hours, a couple times a month, and the allowance / gift was averaging out to 20-30 bucks an hour, it might not be that lucrative for her if she was just trying to play me. But we still haven't settled on numbers yet, so she could want a lot more.

One girl I was talking to some time ago seemed really chill at first, and then said she wanted 3 k / month. But if that was a lot all at once I could give it to her in installments, 1 k every 10 days.

[DrPornDawger]

Fair points. I guess I was thinking along the lines of if we're hanging out for a couple hours, a couple times a month, and the allowance / gift was averaging out to 20-30 bucks an hour, it might not be that lucrative for her if she was just trying to play me. But we still haven't settled on numbers yet, so she could want a lot more.

One girl I was talking to some time ago seemed really chill at first, and then said she wanted 3 k / month. But if that was a lot all at once I could give it to her in installments, 1 k every 10 days.These Sugar babies, you guys are willing to shell out 3 k / month or even more?

Why?

[RyanE36]

These Sugar babies, you guys are willing to shell out 3 k / month or even more?

Why?So, I was not willing to shell out 3 k for her. I can't remember what she had to offer. I think she was talking about sending pics and videos at first and them moving towards more intimate arrangements. I politely declined the 3 k. She hit me up a few more times asking what I could offer, she wasn't that hot, so I just kept saying sorry, no way I could get close to her original number and didn't want to disappoint her with a low ball offer.

[Pay to Play]

Fair points. I guess I was thinking along the lines of if we're hanging out for a couple hours, a couple times a month, and the allowance / gift was averaging out to 20-30 bucks an hour, it might not be that lucrative for her if she was just trying to play me. But we still haven't settled on numbers yet, so she could want a lot more.

One girl I was talking to some time ago seemed really chill at first, and then said she wanted 3 k / month. But if that was a lot all at once I could give it to her in installments, 1 k every 10 days.Those girls are either a scam or suffer from Golden Pussy syndrome. Either way I will usually block them and move on. In my several years time using SA, I would estimate about 5-10% of my initial messages would result in a conversation, and less then that would result in a date. And when I say date, I mean getting laid. YMMV.

[Dudeonthecouch]

Wrong. You never invite a hooker in your own home. Her gangbanger BF sitting in their beat up Honda parked in your driveway casing your place while you fuck her on the couch where you sleep at night.

Don't shit in your own backyard, especially if you live in one of the most expensive zip codes in CA. That's what hotels are for.You're right it's safer no doubt. It's always better to meet somewhere else first if you plan to bring the girl to your place. I got my own place in a safe area have banged over 250 SA girls over the years. This is only for guys who are very experienced with SA. Obviously saves a ton of money if you have a regular its more comfortable and convenient for you.

There are risks, but if you are cautious you should be fine. Out of the 250 + I've banged only had issues 3 times.

One ***** stole my sunglasses, I got them back because she wanted to see me again, of course I never let her near my place again. Hide valuables.

Another one threw a pizza I ordered on the floor because she turned out to be a shitty, poor service escort that didn't want to do anything she agreed and gave me hey I have to go pick up my friend And I'll come back. So I gave her 60 told her her this isn't working for me and we're not a good fit and not to come back If you are going to reject someone, do it in a safe place. For 3/250, I'll take my chances. But lesson learned is reject outside of your place.

I've scored tons of gems. Truly regular college girls that are not seasoned hustlers, former strippers, escorts. True girls next door that are sweethearts and freaks in bed. Since the pandemic, the gems are fewer and fewer. I just came off the worst SA month I've ever had. Usually bang 12 minimum per monthly subscription. Out of the ones I bang, usually 3 will be worth a repeat for me and adding into a regular rotation.

Since the inception of cash app / Venmo, only fans, etc, quality of girls has dropped significantly. Have a spine, don't tolerate any bull shit. New girls are joining everyday. The best are the ones you get to mold into whatever you desire.

[Waxxon]

Fair points. I guess I was thinking along the lines of if we're hanging out for a couple hours, a couple times a month, and the allowance / gift was averaging out to 20-30 bucks an hour, it might not be that lucrative for her if she was just trying to play me. But we still haven't settled on numbers yet, so she could want a lot more.

One girl I was talking to some time ago seemed really chill at first, and then said she wanted 3 k / month. But if that was a lot all at once I could give it to her in installments, 1 k every 10 days.You can proceed in whatever way suits your needs. If she wants to just hang out and talk because she's lonely, OK. I don't provide any allowance just to be graced by their presence or watch them stuff their pie hole. I make it clear, no hunny no munny. See how well that goes over with these fakers. No allowance or gratuity for their time. They have something you want, you have something they want. If they don't want to take care of and keep you happy, NEXT. Giving $ away or overpaying promotes and encourages scams and GPS. There are others out there albeit it sounds like the scams and fakers are taking over. Keep at it and find a real sb, they are out there

[Waxxon]

Bump of an old post. Can add to #5. Lot of fakes, wannabe sb's due to bad advising on the crap social media.


Welcome to the Bowl. First off, it is a learning process, is time consuming, can be frustrating if you let it get to you, but the bottom line it is very rewarding when you're reaping the fruits of your effort.

There are some basic tips / rules.

1. Do not forward $ in advance, or buy them a car and she says she will pay you back etc. Or you will learn the hard way. There are all kinds of stories of SD's losing out, even to an SB you "trust". Buyer beware.

2. Do not pay for M&G, this just encourages and perpetuates the problem. We all have something the other side wants. No honey. No money.

3. Do not overpay. Aka GPS. This is obviously subjective and some cities command higher allowances. Two. Three hundred seems acceptable to many sb's for a couple hours of their time. Not many jobs provide that kind of hourly compensation. Do the math. Of course, this is a free country and they can ask for whatever they want, and you can pay whatever you want. Simple market economics. There are a lot of fish out there, and you may not get the one that you "must have" unless you cough up big allowance. Give it a day, there will be other opportunities.

4. Have a rotation of as many sb's as you can handle physically and financially. It's not unheard of having a rotation of 4-5, some drop off for one reason or another, you may have 1 or two that are your #1 or #2 sb with some options that you keep in your harem.

5. There seem to be a lot more pros out there, you will quickly sense which ones. Nothing wrong with pros, I like them.

6. Develop some game.

7. Age is a personal preference. Everyone has what they feel is their sweet spot.

8. Don't let flakiness, no call no show (NCNS), ghosting, bother you. It happens on both sides. Sure it's irritating, write them off and find one that values your time and generosity as much as you value theirs.

9. Married, it's your choice whether to reveal. Some out there don't want to be home wreckers, some don't care, some prefer it, some will be upset if you mislead them.

10. PPM vs monthly? Most of us do ppm, monthly creates a situation where one side feels they get shortchanged if a date is missed, while there is no incentive for the other side to fulfill the agreement. After you have established a trustworthy sugar relationship, it may work well.

11. Enjoy yourself. Be safe. You're here for a mutually beneficial experience.

I've probably forgotten many things. Other experienced SD's out there with any comments?

Lots of good info on other places here. Visit other threads. See Richmond thread http://www.usasexguide.nl/forum/showthread.php?15100-Sugarbaby-Thread-Highlights-Index-and-FAQ.

[KingBaby]

.... The vibe I got is something mostly platonic, someone to keep her company now that she's single, until she can find someone more her age to actually date. But who knows what happens when you're cuddling up on a couch watching a movie, right? She was cute, seemed cool, and pretty young. I think potential is there for this to be something good. Should I invest the time for something that may never move past platonic? How much would you give gift wise? Or just an allowance? Start small and see how it goes? Or actually try and nail down numbers we'd both be ok with?You are right, she is. She wants the best of both worlds, it is your call to go forward or not. However, I would not pay a cent to meet up for platonic dates. Sure, you can bring food or drinks. You are "paying" her for the platonic date by showing up, let her hang out with you, that's your value. Just think about your friends / family members / business associates, do you pay them to hang out with you?!

Plenty of members have already shared their thoughts, I just want to add something real quick: We work hard for our money (the membership is actually called "Premium") to be on SA. My calendar is already full of platonic meetings, from friends from out of town, to business lunches to potential new ventures. I will pay some and some will even fight for the bill, because they value you being there. Like a member said - Have a spine. If you cave, she will walk all over you and you will never get what you wanted. If you were getting paid by just cuddling, why would you ever put out?

[JWalker350]

Did a M&G with a girl the other day. Seems pretty cool. Actually I happened to message her on her first day of being on SA. Just went through a divorce, said she has a good job, just needs some emotional and physical support, and would appreciate some gifts here and there. Didn't specify any amounts, or what kinds of gifts. Said she's not necessarily looking for anything sexual right now, but more like platonic cuddling and movie watching and stuff. Also not looking to get involved long term.

Still new to the game, didn't want to potentially ruin something by being too forward. The vibe I got is something mostly platonic, someone to keep her company now that she's single, until she can find someone more her age to actually date. But who knows what happens when you're cuddling up on a couch watching a movie, right? She was cute, seemed cool, and pretty young. I think potential is there for this to be something good. Should I invest the time for something that may never move past platonic? How much would you give gift wise? Or just an allowance? Start small and see how it goes? Or actually try and nail down numbers we'd both be ok with?Just try a small gift no more than $100 to see how far can you go on the counch. If you see some progress then keep gifting, if not just backing out.

[RyanE36]

Just try a small gift no more than $100 to see how far can you go on the counch. If you see some progress then keep gifting, if not just backing out.Quick update: took some food over to her place last night. She was a little buzzed already, and went on a tirade about her ex. Then started talking about all the reckless things she's done in the past. Then she finally joined me and started eating dinner. Then we watched some TV, she's continuing to guzzle the wine, meanwhile I'm thinking she's crazy and I need to get out of here. Then she starts getting frisky, but by that point she was way too buzzed for it to be true consensual anything, and with everything she was talking about, I think I'm better off just not seeing her again. Ended up redirecting her attention away from me, and we talked a bit till I made my exit.

Only cost me some food, no cash exchanged. Would've been hot, but not worth her waking up in the morning and thinking I took advantage of her.

[Waylay]

Quick update: took some food over to her place last night. She was a little buzzed already, and went on a tirade about her ex. Then started talking about all the reckless things she's done in the past. Then she finally joined me and started eating dinner. Then we watched some TV, she's continuing to guzzle the wine, meanwhile I'm thinking she's crazy and I need to get out of here. Then she starts getting frisky, but by that point she was way too buzzed for it to be true consensual anything, and with everything she was talking about, I think I'm better off just not seeing her again. Ended up redirecting her attention away from me, and we talked a bit till I made my exit.

Only cost me some food, no cash exchanged. Would've been hot, but not worth her waking up in the morning and thinking I took advantage of her.Well handled, and good judgment here.

[JWalker350]

Quick update: took some food over to her place last night. She was a little buzzed already, and went on a tirade about her ex. Then started talking about all the reckless things she's done in the past. Then she finally joined me and started eating dinner. Then we watched some TV, she's continuing to guzzle the wine, meanwhile I'm thinking she's crazy and I need to get out of here. Then she starts getting frisky, but by that point she was way too buzzed for it to be true consensual anything, and with everything she was talking about, I think I'm better off just not seeing her again. Ended up redirecting her attention away from me, and we talked a bit till I made my exit.

Only cost me some food, no cash exchanged. Would've been hot, but not worth her waking up in the morning and thinking I took advantage of her.Very smart decision.

[CPMachine]

https://www.seeking.com/member/33beda8d-dd46-4913-a0e3-8295b1d68ecb

1. Quick to meet, very transactional. Kind rough looking, BBBJ but covered FS. $$ will not repeat.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2845a9cb-c6a6-45cb-9484-9260924fd307

2. Larger in life than pics. Nice girl, try's hard to please but wasn't really feeling it. $$ 5 and everything covered-will not repeat.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2cf507f2-cc6d-41f1-b7bb-8332f810e1ee

3. This ones on and off SA. Cute, petite, some demons but overall fun. BBBJ, BB, CIP $$ Probably could be talked into anal for right price. Met 5 times but too hard to schedule so letting go.

She talks like she's semi pro but feels like she pretty new. Think its just because she has a few friends in the game she knows the lingo. Mostly likely will not repeat.

https://www.seeking.com/member/37a96d6d-ca0d-4ffe-a084-e3750d03731d

4. Meet and greet. Seemed like she could be talked into more but very dull and not worth the effort.

https://www.seeking.com/member/6debafb6-79bc-4859-852d-a459f9bf097a

Her profile use to say "open to anything" now its strictly platonic. I paid the $50 for some nudes (bad drunk decision). She won't do anything sexual. PM me if you have good intel on anyone and I gladly save you $50 and send you the pics.

Any Info.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b9b07032-e4dc-4036-80cf-ffffd0d43f3a

5. Been talking to this one, seems down to earth. Trying to set up a meet. Any intel?

https://www.seeking.com/member/f28a4132-64bb-4322-b7dd-e7c42c8cecaf

6. Talking to this one, she's not new to this. Any intel?

[Pay to Play]

https://www.seeking.com/member/33beda8d-dd46-4913-a0e3-8295b1d68ecb

1. Quick to meet, very transactional. Kind rough looking, BBBJ but covered FS. $$ will not repeat.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2845a9cb-c6a6-45cb-9484-9260924fd307

2. Larger in life than pics. Nice girl, try's hard to please but wasn't really feeling it. $$ 5 and everything covered-will not repeat.

https://www.seeking.com/member/2cf507f2-cc6d-41f1-b7bb-8332f810e1ee

3. This ones on and off SA. Cute, petite, some demons but overall fun. BBBJ, BB, CIP $$ Probably could be talked into anal for right price. Met 5 times but too hard to schedule so letting go.

She talks like she's semi pro but feels like she pretty new. Think its just because she has a few friends in the game she knows the lingo. Mostly likely will not repeat.

https://www.seeking.com/member/37a96d6d-ca0d-4ffe-a084-e3750d03731d

4. Meet and greet. Seemed like she could be talked into more but very dull and not worth the effort.

https://www.seeking.com/member/6debafb6-79bc-4859-852d-a459f9bf097a

Her profile use to say "open to anything" now its strictly platonic. I paid the $50 for some nudes (bad drunk decision). She won't do anything sexual. PM me if you have good intel on anyone and I gladly save you $50 and send you the pics.

Any Info.

https://www.seeking.com/member/b9b07032-e4dc-4036-80cf-ffffd0d43f3a

5. Been talking to this one, seems down to earth. Trying to set up a meet. Any intel?

https://www.seeking.com/member/f28a4132-64bb-4322-b7dd-e7c42c8cecaf

6. Talking to this one, she's not new to this. Any intel?Nice report and thank you for sharing. Just curious, how do you and others deal with the issue of hosting? I can't / won't host at my place, hotels are God awful expensive in SD currently and women who are willing to host are few and far between. Are you all just assuming the cost of hotels as a cost of the hobby?

[CPMachine]

Nice report and thank you for sharing. Just curious, how do you and others deal with the issue of hosting? I can't / won't host at my place, hotels are God awful expensive in SD currently and women who are willing to host are few and far between. Are you all just assuming the cost of hotels as a cost of the hobby?I am fortunate to have rental property I can take them too but prior to that I was getting a hotel for the first time or 2. And there are some who will host, just have to find the right girl.

[FingerLicking]

Nice report and thank you for sharing. Just curious, how do you and others deal with the issue of hosting? I can't / won't host at my place, hotels are God awful expensive in SD currently and women who are willing to host are few and far between. Are you all just assuming the cost of hotels as a cost of the hobby?There is no easy answer for that. My last SB was able to host. If you are not weird and don't stand out, some might grow open after trust is established. A lot of these girls probably have room mates.

[Oops0001]

Nice report and thank you for sharing. Just curious, how do you and others deal with the issue of hosting? I can't / won't host at my place, hotels are God awful expensive in SD currently and women who are willing to host are few and far between. Are you all just assuming the cost of hotels as a cost of the hobby?Has anyone used HotelsByDay.com or similar web-based hotel-booking service for daytime use hotels? I booked a room (DoubleTree), but the hotel couldn't find my reservation. Is the web-based hotel-booking service reliable? Maybe depend on hotel? Can you share any success experiences?

[Waylay]

Has anyone used HotelsByDay.com or similar web-based hotel-booking service for daytime use hotels? I booked a room (DoubleTree), but the hotel couldn't find my reservation. Is the web-based hotel-booking service reliable? Maybe depend on hotel? Can you share any success experiences?Try an app called "hotel tonight". I've used and have had no issues.

[Pay to Play]

I am fortunate to have rental property I can take them too but prior to that I was getting a hotel for the first time or 2. And there are some who will host, just have to find the right girl.I have considered keeping a private fuck shack, but when I do the math, getting a room is still a cheaper way to go. Guess we all need a timeshare fuck shack.

[FarFarAway]

I have considered keeping a private fuck shack, but when I do the math, getting a room is still a cheaper way to go. Guess we all need a timeshare fuck shack.Great movie about this, "The Apartment", Jack Lemon. Really, 50's MadMen.

[BillChang]

Has anyone used HotelsByDay.com or similar web-based hotel-booking service for daytime use hotels? I booked a room (DoubleTree), but the hotel couldn't find my reservation. Is the web-based hotel-booking service reliable? Maybe depend on hotel? Can you share any success experiences?https://www.dayuse.com/ has worked well for me.

[Pay to Play]

Here's a solution for us all. She will host for 1200.

https://www.seeking.com/member/cf4285d9-7521-4448-9533-405e23eebbf6

[HelloYouAre]

Here's a solution for us all. She will host for 1200.

https://www.seeking.com/member/cf4285d9-7521-4448-9533-405e23eebbf6Did she just cold message you that? Dang I would think that's a red flag if she did. Do you have public pics pay to play? Mine are private so maybe that's why I don't get messages like that.

[JWalker350]

Did she just cold message you that? Dang I would think that's a red flag if she did. Do you have public pics pay to play? Mine are private so maybe that's why I don't get messages like that.I had good number of girls asked for $1,000 ppm and $200 for meet and greet including one Korean girl. I told them let do it but I do not use any apps for transactions. I only use cash since cash is king. They all were never replied to my messages. I knew the did read it.

[OrangeJoose]

Hey everyone. I've been thinking about getting into this for some time and finally signed up a couple weeks ago. Need some advice. Long story short, I'm military and nearly 40 (in other words, lots of time in service, some rank behind my name). Pretty drained and felt like I need something young in my life to help my sanity. Been talking to a cute chick for a couple days, and she wants to meet, said I could come over place "on base" or she could come over to my place. And that's when I realized she's military too. She's 16 years younger than me, she hasn't said it, but she seems low maintenance and probably DTF. She's probably getting out of the military soon. The odds of us running into each other through our normal work schedules is pretty slim.

So here's my question: Worth the risk? Do I just block her and move on? Anyone in similar shoes have practical advice? Don't feel comfortable sharing publicly feel free to PM.

Not sure if this was a mistake, but I just need a little "pick me up" with the way life has been treating me, and thought this might be it. Tried googling the nearest similar situation I could think of, which was if a junior enlisted accidentally hooked up on Tinder with a more senior enlisted / officer, but not many results that were useful.

Thanks for your help.

[Will008]

If it's an E to O type thing then you know the rules. If it's E to senior E then you also know the rules but if not in the direct COC then it's up to you to take the chance in either situation.


Hey everyone. I've been thinking about getting into this for some time and finally signed up a couple weeks ago. Need some advice. Long story short, I'm military and nearly 40 (in other words, lots of time in service, some rank behind my name). Pretty drained and felt like I need something young in my life to help my sanity. Been talking to a cute chick for a couple days, and she wants to meet, said I could come over place "on base" or she could come over to my place. And that's when I realized she's military too. She's 16 years younger than me, she hasn't said it, but she seems low maintenance and probably DTF. She's probably getting out of the military soon. The odds of us running into each other through our normal work schedules is pretty slim.

So here's my question: Worth the risk? Do I just block her and move on? Anyone in similar shoes have practical advice? Don't feel comfortable sharing publicly feel free to PM.

Not sure if this was a mistake, but I just need a little "pick me up" with the way life has been treating me, and thought this might be it. Tried googling the nearest similar situation I could think of, which was if a junior enlisted accidentally hooked up on Tinder with a more senior enlisted / officer, but not many results that were useful.

Thanks for your help.

[RogerOver]

Hey everyone. I've been thinking about getting into this for some time and finally signed up a couple weeks ago. Need some advice. Long story short, I'm military and nearly 40 (in other words, lots of time in service, some rank behind my name). Pretty drained and felt like I need something young in my life to help my sanity. Been talking to a cute chick for a couple days, and she wants to meet, said I could come over place "on base" or she could come over to my place. And that's when I realized she's military too. She's 16 years younger than me, she hasn't said it, but she seems low maintenance and probably DTF. She's probably getting out of the military soon. The odds of us running into each other through our normal work schedules is pretty slim.

So here's my question: Worth the risk? Do I just block her and move on? Anyone in similar shoes have practical advice? Don't feel comfortable sharing publicly feel free to PM.

Not sure if this was a mistake, but I just need a little "pick me up" with the way life has been treating me, and thought this might be it. Tried googling the nearest similar situation I could think of, which was if a junior enlisted accidentally hooked up on Tinder with a more senior enlisted / officer, but not many results that were useful.

Thanks for your help.Been quite a few minutes since I was in the military, so I'm not familiar with how aggressively they punish fraternization these days. I'm assuming the rank difference is pretty wide? Senior / junior enlisted or officer? It's really hard for me to say but god knows I stuck my pecker in a lot of inappropriate pussy when I was in.

Any chance you could just get a hotel off base and see how it goes the first time or two without letting on who you are? I'm sure you're in the base directory if she finds your name.

[Pay to Play]

Did she just cold message you that? Dang I would think that's a red flag if she did. Do you have public pics pay to play? Mine are private so maybe that's why I don't get messages like that.Yes to cold message. I only keep one blurred pic public. I almost never report. People in glass houses and all. I found some time ago that you are far more likely to get banned yourself by reporting others. Not sure if out of revenge or just by attracting admin to review your activity. I just block and move on. No point in even responding to something so preposterous.

[Pay to Play]

Hey everyone. I've been thinking about getting into this for some time and finally signed up a couple weeks ago. Need some advice. Long story short, I'm military and nearly 40 (in other words, lots of time in service, some rank behind my name). Pretty drained and felt like I need something young in my life to help my sanity. Been talking to a cute chick for a couple days, and she wants to meet, said I could come over place "on base" or she could come over to my place. And that's when I realized she's military too. She's 16 years younger than me, she hasn't said it, but she seems low maintenance and probably DTF. She's probably getting out of the military soon. The odds of us running into each other through our normal work schedules is pretty slim.

So here's my question: Worth the risk? Do I just block her and move on? Anyone in similar shoes have practical advice? Don't feel comfortable sharing publicly feel free to PM.

Not sure if this was a mistake, but I just need a little "pick me up" with the way life has been treating me, and thought this might be it. Tried googling the nearest similar situation I could think of, which was if a junior enlisted accidentally hooked up on Tinder with a more senior enlisted / officer, but not many results that were useful.

Thanks for your help.I've never served and know very little about the rules, but have been at this a long time. It all depends on your adversion to risk and consequences. I personally am very adverse to risk. If it's something that could cost me my career, I move on. Too much other pussy out there to risk it. No one is on SA as a dating site. It's cash for something. Always. So she is either there like you are. Looking for arrangement. If she isn't, then ask yourself why else is she there. Scam, sting or playing games? Look up sextortion and ask yourself if you meet and reveal your identity, could that information be used against you.

[The Ass Man]

There are too many options out there in my opinion to take that kind of risk.

Chances of getting caught. Probably low but still a possibility. You don't know where she is emailing you from or checking her account, etc. And never leave it to an overzealous person to find out and ruin your fun. Why risk the embarrassment of getting caught against your service career. Go civilian.

If you ever did get caught, this is the kind of thing in todays day and age they love to make an example out of to make themselves feel good.

Just my two cents.


Hey everyone. I've been thinking about getting into this for some time and finally signed up a couple weeks ago. Need some advice. Long story short, I'm military and nearly 40 (in other words, lots of time in service, some rank behind my name). Pretty drained and felt like I need something young in my life to help my sanity. Been talking to a cute chick for a couple days, and she wants to meet, said I could come over place "on base" or she could come over to my place. And that's when I realized she's military too. She's 16 years younger than me, she hasn't said it, but she seems low maintenance and probably DTF. She's probably getting out of the military soon. The odds of us running into each other through our normal work schedules is pretty slim.

So here's my question: Worth the risk? Do I just block her and move on? Anyone in similar shoes have practical advice? Don't feel comfortable sharing publicly feel free to PM.

Not sure if this was a mistake, but I just need a little "pick me up" with the way life has been treating me, and thought this might be it. Tried googling the nearest similar situation I could think of, which was if a junior enlisted accidentally hooked up on Tinder with a more senior enlisted / officer, but not many results that were useful.

Thanks for your help.

[OrangeJoose]

Appreciate the feedback. I've expended energy on a few only to find out very shortly prior to meeting that they were junior enlisted because of something that they said. Like this one asked if I could get on base. Another one said suggested something that I took to be the GI bill, which I then asked indirect questions and found out she was in.

I dunno. With this chick I'll see how much longer she'll be in for. The odds of us ever crossing paths are very slim (different bases, different services, a lot of differences). As long as she doesn't find out I'm military things will probably be ok. My risk aversion has been so high in the past that I've missed out on some fun, but then it has also probably kept me very safe.

Agree that in this day and age, even a fully consensual thing could turn into making an example out of someone.

I'll pull back a bit for a while and see what else I can find. But I think I just have a knack for attracting the military chicks.

[JWalker350]

There are too many options out there in my opinion to take that kind of risk.

Chances of getting caught. Probably low but still a possibility. You don't know where she is emailing you from or checking her account, etc. And never leave it to an overzealous person to find out and ruin your fun. Why risk the embarrassment of getting caught against your service career. Go civilian.

If you ever did get caught, this is the kind of thing in todays day and age they love to make an example out of to make themselves feel good.

Just my two cents.I agree with the Ass Man. Why should you take the risk while there are so many other girls out there? Do not gamble your career especially with military since you have all the pension and benefits tie to your service.

[OrangeJoose]

Also, to add, she hasn't seen my face yet. So I think I'm overall in the clear.

I get what y'all are saying. I guess I need to lay down and get some blood back to the big head. Appreciate the advice.

[Poksman]

A bit of a dry spell and this girl, started 1. 2 k.then 1 k. Now 800. I hate haggling and thinking of taking a taste off the GPS. I know it's above market. But desperate times.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879

[FarFarAway]

A bit of a dry spell and this girl, started 1. 2 k.then 1 k. Now 800. I hate haggling and thinking of taking a taste off the GPS. I know it's above market. But desperate times.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879So, she looks fine, but I wouldn't be into her at that rate. The worst part of her profile. It is 5 years old. She's a 'professional' sugar baby, at the least, if not an UTR escort, using SA to double her usual rates. She's learned every trick in the book in all that time. It is always better to get girls when they first join the site.

I spoke w / a POT today in an inland county. She's not too smart, but boy is she hot. The classical dumb blonde w / big tits. She told me that she has had 4 'dates', but that no one ever calls her back, so she's never gotten her allowance. So she's agreeing to monthly allowance, and trusting them. Duh! And has let it happen 4 times. I can't in good conscience exploit her again in this way, but I'll try to get her at a very good price, which is certainly better than what she's made so far.

[FirstClass1]

I'm not into her look, as she seems to be on the heavy side (I prefer pretty or beautiful girls with slim or athletic builds), but she reached out, and through our conversation mentioned she's DTF for 250 per date. I'm willing to believe she can be negotiated down further.

She claims to love sucking dick and always swallows, she loves anal, and loves creampie. She's on birth control:

https://www.seeking.com/member/036036d0-8ca7-438d-82a0-c7a4bf2c3b09

If you do partake, feel free to report back.

[JWalker350]

A bit of a dry spell and this girl, started 1. 2 k.then 1 k. Now 800. I hate haggling and thinking of taking a taste off the GPS. I know it's above market. But desperate times.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879She asked me for 800 last year but I did not bite.

[William Monroe]

Here's a solution for us all. She will host for 1200.

https://www.seeking.com/member/cf4285d9-7521-4448-9533-405e23eebbf6Yeah, it's no big surprise. She violates one of my rules I've mentioned here before, ignore any woman with "fit" in her username.

[FyreControl]

Hey everyone. I've been thinking about getting into this for some time and finally signed up a couple weeks ago. Need some advice. Long story short, I'm military and nearly 40 (in other words, lots of time in service, some rank behind my name). Pretty drained and felt like I need something young in my life to help my sanity. Been talking to a cute chick for a couple days, and she wants to meet, said I could come over place "on base" or she could come over to my place. And that's when I realized she's military too. She's 16 years younger than me, she hasn't said it, but she seems low maintenance and probably DTF. She's probably getting out of the military soon. The odds of us running into each other through our normal work schedules is pretty slim.

So here's my question: Worth the risk? Do I just block her and move on? Anyone in similar shoes have practical advice? Don't feel comfortable sharing publicly feel free to PM.

Not sure if this was a mistake, but I just need a little "pick me up" with the way life has been treating me, and thought this might be it. Tried googling the nearest similar situation I could think of, which was if a junior enlisted accidentally hooked up on Tinder with a more senior enlisted / officer, but not many results that were useful.

Thanks for your help.Singe or not, we got a code that although tempting we got to keep. Regardless of the rel deal you bang that one and she WILL not keep it as discreet as you'd like, some how, some way it would work back to you. Keep the pension and disability intact, make a pit stop off base and let that be a better guide than the little soldier.

[JWalker350]

A bit of a dry spell and this girl, started 1. 2 k.then 1 k. Now 800. I hate haggling and thinking of taking a taste off the GPS. I know it's above market. But desperate times.

https://www.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879She is an escort. I believe she is in La Mesa (or Sport Arena). It has been more than two years and I do not recall. If I recall it right, she lives close to SDSU.

[Poksman]

She is an escort. I believe she is in La Mesa (or Sport Arena). It has been more than two years and I do not recall. If I recall it right, she lives close to SDSU.Thanks. If a high volume escort than I'll just ghost. I'm chatting with this other long timer. She comes off as a pro and community puss provider. I FaceTime her and the body was 🥵 anyone with intel if 300 is acceptable. I don't want to aim high.

https://www.seeking.com/member/477cd048-ab2b-4d6d-b356-cc8de7f9faaf

[JWalker350]

Thanks. If a high volume escort than I'll just ghost. I'm chatting with this other long timer. She comes off as a pro and community puss provider. I FaceTime her and the body was 🥵 anyone with intel if 300 is acceptable. I don't want to aim high.

https://www.seeking.com/member/477cd048-ab2b-4d6d-b356-cc8de7f9faafI never chatted with her but you can test her out for 300 and ask for coffee or lunch meeting. If she claims discreet and does not have time for coffee or lunch meetings but go directly to the arrangement means she is an escort. It is easy to recognize an escort from first time you meet her face to face not by FaceTime. The way escorts talk and act are different than college students.

[Poksman]

I never chatted with her but you can test her out for 300 and ask for coffee or lunch meeting. If she claims discreet and does not have time for coffee or lunch meetings but go directly to the arrangement means she is an escort. It is easy to recognize an escort from first time you meet her face to face not by FaceTime. The way escorts talk and act are different than college students.Texted me 200 for M&G and back to her place if we get along. Sends porn vids too. Got to be a scam.

https://www.seeking.com/member/df60697a-532f-4cc5-8f7a-b8bc5e3c5e35

[HelloYouAre]

Texted me 200 for M&G and back to her place if we get along. Sends porn vids too. Got to be a scam.

https://www.seeking.com/member/df60697a-532f-4cc5-8f7a-b8bc5e3c5e35She had a few pictures with armpit hair that is quite frankly longer than my own and I don't even shave. Are men into that now? No offense to anyone that is into that BTW.

[SiuMedina]

Anyone got info on this one? Tall Asian w / slim body (judging from her pic). Looks to be open minded based on her profile wording: https://www.seeking.com/member/8dc60234-d3b9-44cb-a493-72740ac7518f.

[JWalker350]

https://www.seeking.com/member/a530d24a-03f7-4185-ac01-c72f58046399

Asked to send money for her babysitter fee in order to meet. Request to send via cashapp, Paypal, Visa Prepaid card and / or Amazon gift-card. The scammer just downloaded the pictures of a Sweden model located in NY and posted on SA. The model was also living in LA too.

[FarFarAway]

https://www.seeking.com/member/a530d24a-03f7-4185-ac01-c72f58046399

Asked to send money for her babysitter fee in order to meet. Request to send via cashapp, Paypal, Visa Prepaid card and / or Amazon gift-card. The scammer just downloaded the pictures of a Sweden model located in NY and posted on SA. The model was also living in LA too.I am happy to pay for gas, Uber, babysitter, etc. , for a M&G. In cash, at the meet. I always offer that. Of course, a scammer won't be swayed by this. Easy way to smoke them out.

[Will008]

Yup, gift cards, cashapp, PayPal. You're about to get ripped off if you use any of these before the meet.


I am happy to pay for gas, Uber, babysitter, etc. , for a M&G. In cash, at the meet. I always offer that. Of course, a scammer won't be swayed by this. Easy way to smoke them out.

[JWalker350]

I am happy to pay for gas, Uber, babysitter, etc. , for a M&G. In cash, at the meet. I always offer that. Of course, a scammer won't be swayed by this. Easy way to smoke them out.This scammer did not accept cash. Need to get the money before leaving the house. The pictures were downloaded from internet.

[MaxKat]

https://www.seeking.com/member/c0091e6b-4f13-4086-b7b5-d3ef0dc483c2

She's done some porn:

Https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph59778d23cb695

Not impressed, God I hate the phony moans in porn. She wanted 900 ppm, no thanks! Offered 900 first time, then 600 subsequent. Still declined.

[BostonJones]

https://www.seeking.com/member/c0091e6b-4f13-4086-b7b5-d3ef0dc483c2

She's done some porn:

Https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph59778d23cb695

Not impressed, God I hate the phony moans in porn. She wanted 900 ppm, no thanks! Offered 900 first time, then 600 subsequent. Still declined.Scarlet Datz.

[NickD]

https://www.seeking.com/member/c0091e6b-4f13-4086-b7b5-d3ef0dc483c2

She's done some porn:

Https://www.pornhub.com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph59778d23cb695

Not impressed, God I hate the phony moans in porn. She wanted 900 ppm, no thanks! Offered 900 first time, then 600 subsequent. Still declined.Those moans are real. I used to ring her bell long before she got into porn and when the price of admission was way less for a multi CIP date. Can't fault her if she's been consistent all this time LOL. I'd not re-sign for that but do indeed miss nailing this one on the regular.

[InspiredDazes]

https://www.seeking.com/member/99418c36-03a8-4ea8-9432-d8def9e1a7e0

https://www.pornhub.com/pornstar/christy-love

Asked for 900 too.

[FarFarAway]

https://www.seeking.com/member/99418c36-03a8-4ea8-9432-d8def9e1a7e0

https://www.pornhub.com/pornstar/christy-love

Asked for 900 too.I have a bowl buddy in SD who has seen her a couple of times. I believe he was successful in negotiating w / her. He had high praise for her skills.

[DRaj123]

https://www.seeking.com/member/99418c36-03a8-4ea8-9432-d8def9e1a7e0

https://www.pornhub.com/pornstar/christy-love

Asked for 900 too.I saw Christy once.

She asks you to host downtown hotel.

She asked 900 but met me for 300 for 2 hrs.

She is cute and good but I rarely repeat.

[KingBaby]

Both Scarlet & Christy have been on San Diego SA for a long time, many members have seen them.

Since you guys are fascinated by Porn Stars, may I introduce you to Tina Torres: https://www.xvideos.com/video62096215/tight_asian_student_tina_needed_help_with_school_funding who interestingly enough, has done porn about Sugar Daddys. You guys should really hit her up - https://www.seeking.com/member/34b650ce-f06f-4cac-95d2-37213374ce06

P.S.: It is her, check out her tats on the left arm.

[JWalker350]

Both Scarlet & Christy have been on San Diego SA for a long time, many members have seen them.

Since you guys are fascinated by Porn Stars, may I introduce you to Tina Torres: https://www.xvideos.com/video62096215/tight_asian_student_tina_needed_help_with_school_funding who interestingly enough, has done porn about Sugar Daddys. You guys should really hit her up - https://www.seeking.com/member/34b650ce-f06f-4cac-95d2-37213374ce06

P.S.: It is her, check out her tats on the left arm.Is there any special tats on left arm? Is it a dragon?

[MaxKat]

Both Scarlet & Christy have been on San Diego SA for a long time, many members have seen them.

Since you guys are fascinated by Porn Stars, may I introduce you to Tina Torres: https://www.xvideos.com/video62096215/tight_asian_student_tina_needed_help_with_school_funding who interestingly enough, has done porn about Sugar Daddys. You guys should really hit her up - https://www.seeking.com/member/34b650ce-f06f-4cac-95d2-37213374ce06

P.S.: It is her, check out her tats on the left arm.Ugh 90% of porn is garbage, someone put a gag in her mouth. And SA is such a dumpster fire in San Diego. Very few are real SBs.

[InspiredDazes]

https://www.seeking.com/member/63c5b5fa-0139-49af-88a0-3a7a4a0af48f

Asked for 500 and got her down to 400 but asked for a deposit because it's not the full 500.

[PussyPumper]

I saw Christy once.

She asks you to host downtown hotel.

She asked 900 but met me for 300 for 2 hrs.

She is cute and good but I rarely repeat.I can confirm this.

[PussyPumper]

Both Scarlet & Christy have been on San Diego SA for a long time, many members have seen them.

Since you guys are fascinated by Porn Stars, may I introduce you to Tina Torres: https://www.xvideos.com/video62096215/tight_asian_student_tina_needed_help_with_school_funding who interestingly enough, has done porn about Sugar Daddys. You guys should really hit her up - https://www.seeking.com/member/34b650ce-f06f-4cac-95d2-37213374ce06
I can only speak for myself, but I am not sure it is a fascination with porn stars as such.

I first contacted Christy quite a few years ago, without knowing that she was a porn star. In fact, she was still mainly a cam girl at the time. She was simply my type.

She may not be a fresh, innocent 18 yo university coed with no experience, but she does have advantages:

- Very cute, with a slim / trim figure.

- Easy going, nice personality.

- Very dependable. She won't flake, with no risk of being scammed or robbed (AFIK).

- She delivers in the bedroom. Knee shaking delivery.

By contrast, I have never seen Scarlet and probably won't, even though I know she is a porn star. Nice enough body and looks, but dreadful tattoos.

[PussyPumper]

https://www.seeking.com/member/63c5b5fa-0139-49af-88a0-3a7a4a0af48f

Asked for 500 and got her down to 400 but asked for a deposit because it's not the full 500.I also had her ask for a "deposit". I stopped right there.

[Dolemite50]

https://www.seeking.com/member/63c5b5fa-0139-49af-88a0-3a7a4a0af48f

Asked for 500 and got her down to 400 but asked for a deposit because it's not the full 500.I see her on Listcrawler all the time (even today). I seriously doubt anyone's offering her 5 bills on there, LOL!

[KingBaby]

I see her on Listcrawler all the time (even today). I seriously doubt anyone's offering her 5 bills on there, LOL!


I also had her ask for a "deposit". I stopped right there.Yes, she is a Pro - https://aaok.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/65017225.

[CPMachine]

We matched on Bumble, started talking. She viewed my SA, next thing I know she dropped my Bumble and favorited me on SA LOL. Haven't pursued yet. Pic one.

https://members.seeking.com/member/de1fa2f1-4a83-466b-868d-bcf996e4a90d

Been working on this one, but VERY VERY slow to respond. Doesn't seem to eager.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a64bb04e-68bc-44e4-91f1-2d1ad56f62b4

Says she wants to meet, $400 PPM then goes straight to cashapp or venmo. I said will would gladly pay cash in person and she tells me "she's been scammed by cash deals before" LOL. That common case of the funny money going around.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0fa68d6e-1daa-4f08-91d5-8b20e9efe1a8

Seemed legit, but then goes $250 PPM which was too good to be true. We texted a bunch but she flaked twice and went radio silence.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1d973b1c-6e59-4426-8c11-91313cd8a57c

In talks with this one but have my doubts anything will come of it. Info appreciated.

https://members.seeking.com/member/21c25443-2990-49b8-8052-95ddb32dbaad

So they switch off from being one girl to two girls. I talked when it was a 2 girl profile, $600 total, one pop, everything covered, not even cum shot around. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f4dece7c-5b8d-9c79-2fd1-30e54f75b2e8

Chubby pro. Gave me her number one first message and wanted $600. Dropped to $400 but I passed.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cad599e2-2219-489a-9354-db7b0d91f9f7

Flaked 5 times and I just stopped talking.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1009a8aa-4499-4c03-a2db-8dd2b386942e

Like others posted. Amateur porn, done like 3 videos. Wants $800 Can host Downtown. I got drunk and went for it. LOVE her moaning, its so hot even though others disagreed. One and done expensive experience.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c0091e6b-4f13-4086-b7b5-d3ef0dc483c2

$300, straight pro, everything covered, no anal. Decent time but again, PRO.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3fda3107-51ad-44ea-8c35-76c72f9a583f

Wants $500 for bbbjws. Will sporadically text and say hey lets meet but never wants to actually set up a time. Its always a, I need money now lets go.

https://members.seeking.com/member/79d8f4c6-3710-4c09-bc2b-162b662c2ba1

Ok so this one isn't SA. See 2nd pic, we matched on Bumble. Anyone confirm its the same girl on yololistcrawler? Looks like her.

https://yolo.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/67409360

[JWalker350]

We matched on Bumble, started talking. She viewed my SA, next thing I know she dropped my Bumble and favorited me on SA LOL. Haven't pursued yet. Pic one.

https://members.seeking.com/member/de1fa2f1-4a83-466b-868d-bcf996e4a90d

Been working on this one, but VERY VERY slow to respond. Doesn't seem to eager.

https://members.seeking.com/member/a64bb04e-68bc-44e4-91f1-2d1ad56f62b4

Says she wants to meet, $400 PPM then goes straight to cashapp or venmo. I said will would gladly pay cash in person and she tells me "she's been scammed by cash deals before" LOL. That common case of the funny money going around.

https://members.seeking.com/member/0fa68d6e-1daa-4f08-91d5-8b20e9efe1a8

Seemed legit, but then goes $250 PPM which was too good to be true. We texted a bunch but she flaked twice and went radio silence.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1d973b1c-6e59-4426-8c11-91313cd8a57c

In talks with this one but have my doubts anything will come of it. Info appreciated.

https://members.seeking.com/member/21c25443-2990-49b8-8052-95ddb32dbaad

So they switch off from being one girl to two girls. I talked when it was a 2 girl profile, $600 total, one pop, everything covered, not even cum shot around. Pass.

https://members.seeking.com/member/f4dece7c-5b8d-9c79-2fd1-30e54f75b2e8

Chubby pro. Gave me her number one first message and wanted $600. Dropped to $400 but I passed.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cad599e2-2219-489a-9354-db7b0d91f9f7

Flaked 5 times and I just stopped talking.

https://members.seeking.com/member/1009a8aa-4499-4c03-a2db-8dd2b386942e

Like others posted. Amateur porn, done like 3 videos. Wants $800 Can host Downtown. I got drunk and went for it. LOVE her moaning, its so hot even though others disagreed. One and done expensive experience.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c0091e6b-4f13-4086-b7b5-d3ef0dc483c2

$300, straight pro, everything covered, no anal. Decent time but again, PRO.

https://members.seeking.com/member/3fda3107-51ad-44ea-8c35-76c72f9a583f

Wants $500 for bbbjws. Will sporadically text and say hey lets meet but never wants to actually set up a time. Its always a, I need money now lets go.

https://members.seeking.com/member/79d8f4c6-3710-4c09-bc2b-162b662c2ba1

Ok so this one isn't SA. See 2nd pic, we matched on Bumble. Anyone confirm its the same girl on yololistcrawler? Looks like her.

https://yolo.com.listcrawler.eu/post/escorts/usa/california/sandiego/67409360https://members.seeking.com/member/21c25443-2990-49b8-8052-95ddb32dbaad

She is a pro. She used different name 2 years ago. Was located in Point Loma but now Del Mar.

[PussyPumper]

Profile photo does not match photos sent later.

Texts for ages, agrees to meet, agrees details.

And then asks for electronic transfer or prepaid card before meeting.

https://members.seeking.com/member/03714c6c-2176-4a9e-8f9b-b6ccf0c85005

[InspiredDazes]

https://members.seeking.com/member/77051681-2874-458e-a8b1-4b9cdd44d7b8

It's Lexi Love on.

[DanteHaversham]

https://members.seeking.com/mem

Takes the money and runs.

[CPMachine]

https://members.seeking.com/mem

Takes the money and runs.You didn't post full link.

[KingBaby]

https://members.seeking.com/mem

Takes the money and runs.Wait, who?

[CPMachine]

I got banned- think because I discussed a PPM and then told her off when she wanted upfront. Anyway.

I made a new account, used it to search, went to pay and got banned. So guess my name is in the ban system. Trying to reach out to SA is joke.

Anyone know how I can get around this ban? Any kind of payment that works?

[KingBaby]

I got banned- think because I discussed a PPM and then told her off when she wanted upfront. Anyway.

I made a new account, used it to search, went to pay and got banned. So guess my name is in the ban system. Trying to reach out to SA is joke.

Anyone know how I can get around this ban? Any kind of payment that works?How did they get your name? Did you use your real credit card to pay?

If so, start another account, this time, use the all reliable Vanilla Prepaid.z

PS: For what it's worth - Plz let us know who (her profile) reported you.

[PussyPumper]

I got banned- think because I discussed a PPM and then told her off when she wanted upfront. Anyway.

I made a new account, used it to search, went to pay and got banned. So guess my name is in the ban system. Trying to reach out to SA is joke.

Anyone know how I can get around this ban? Any kind of payment that works?1) Use a pre-paid card, specifically One Vanilla (not the rechargeable variety). Use a fake name and address!

2) Make sure you connect to the internet with a different IP than previously. Could be just a change with your local mode, or might need to use a VPN.

3) Use new photos (if any).

4) Change the way your computer or mobile "fingerprints" - I have personally confirmed that SA fingerprint your connection. So change at least one of the following: system version, browser or app version, screen resolution, extensions used, etc.

I was banned multiple times. The above works like a charm.

[CPMachine]

1) Use a pre-paid card, specifically One Vanilla (not the rechargeable variety). Use a fake name and address!

2) Make sure you connect to the internet with a different IP than previously. Could be just a change with your local mode, or might need to use a VPN.

3) Use new photos (if any).

4) Change the way your computer or mobile "fingerprints" - I have personally confirmed that SA fingerprint your connection. So change at least one of the following: system version, browser or app version, screen resolution, extensions used, etc.

I was banned multiple times. The above works like a charm.I'm not super tech savvy but giving this a try. Thank you!

[WhiteCollarGuy]

I'm asking a question that pops up every so often. Do you guys have pics on your profile? I need to be discreet and don't want my photos out there and also don't want to send photos via text. Anyone use snapchat or some other way to send photos that self destruct? Or, can you people still save the photo somehow?

[Rocketron1006]

I'm asking a question that pops up every so often. Do you guys have pics on your profile? I need to be discreet and don't want my photos out there and also don't want to send photos via text. Anyone use snapchat or some other way to send photos that self destruct? Or, can you people still save the photo somehow?The technique you suggest can help, but all it takes is a screen capture to grab a photo forever. Easy on a phone or computer. If you're worried, suggest taking a pic that is not something you've posted elsewhere and blur the eyes. Not foolproof, but better than nothing.

[Anontt6]

The technique you suggest can help, but all it takes is a screen capture to grab a photo forever. Easy on a phone or computer. If you're worried, suggest taking a pic that is not something you've posted elsewhere and blur the eyes. Not foolproof, but better than nothing.A slightly more shitty idea is to use an old photo from a online dating profile. That way you have some plausible deniability that the pic was just scraped from the dark corners of the web and reused without your knowledge.

I caught a HX chick reusing another SBs pics on their profile, so it's definitely been done.

[Splenda]

Sent my number to a girl and she sent me a screenshot of some website where you can search by phone number and the girls leave comments. Obviously I had some negative reviews because I stay under 3. Any idea which site they use to talk about us?

[KingBaby]

Sent my number to a girl and she sent me a screenshot of some website where you can search by phone number and the girls leave comments. Obviously I had some negative reviews because I stay under 3. Any idea which site they use to talk about us?The easiest way is you Google yourself.

If it's like that, then buy another number. The lowest I have seen is 9. 99/ month.

[Fonmyj]

Sent my number to a girl and she sent me a screenshot of some website where you can search by phone number and the girls leave comments. Obviously I had some negative reviews because I stay under 3. Any idea which site they use to talk about us?Was the screen shot from a website or an app? If an app, then likely Mr. Number. As suggested, change numbers or use an app based virtual number for this.

[PussyPumper]

The easiest way is you Google yourself.

If it's like that, then buy another number. The lowest I have seen is 9. 99/ month.Splenda should certainly try googling his number and let us know if it shows some site / group with reviews on SDs.

I suspect though, that this is some personal / private group, that probably won't show up in a Google search.

[Splenda]

Splenda should certainly try googling his number and let us know if it shows some site / group with reviews on SDs.

I suspect though, that this is some personal / private group, that probably won't show up in a Google search.I google my personal info about once a month. I've never found anything remotely connecting any of my numbers to me. I think you're right. Likely a private group of some kind, most likely filled with SB's that frequent Reddit.

[SeaTownGuy]

Sent my number to a girl and she sent me a screenshot of some website where you can search by phone number and the girls leave comments. Obviously I had some negative reviews because I stay under 3. Any idea which site they use to talk about us?There is a organized group that join SA and other sites to extort people. The group will join a site, communicate, then you will get a random text 'your number is on site xyz. Pay $$$ to have it removed'. The site has changed domains a couple times. Total fraud job.

[ChrisHansen92]

It got so bad that Reflex Media "Wade" went after them in court in 2018 and demanded a jury trial.

https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Online.Extort.pdf


There is a organized group that join SA and other sites to extort people. The group will join a site, communicate, then you will get a random text 'your number is on site xyz. Pay $$$ to have it removed'. The site has changed domains a couple times. Total fraud job.

[JWalker350]

Sent my number to a girl and she sent me a screenshot of some website where you can search by phone number and the girls leave comments. Obviously I had some negative reviews because I stay under 3. Any idea which site they use to talk about us?If you post the screen shot she sent to you here but erase your number, people can help. Also what is the girl username?

[Poksman]

I have a date with this one. Hope people have some experience if you have met her. She seemed experienced and she looks cute. Share your info or details. DM me if necessary.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e4a8dc6c-3a0c-a15f-efb0-4dcbf73a744f

[PussyPumper]

I have a date with this one. Hope people have some experience if you have met her. She seemed experienced and she looks cute. Share your info or details. DM me if necessary.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e4a8dc6c-3a0c-a15f-efb0-4dcbf73a744fI think that tells you all you need to know.

[CPMachine]

I think that tells you all you need to know.I been texting with her and we had to reschedule few times. But like PP said she's been on since 2015 so if she's not lying about her age she has been doing this since 18. Enough said there. Though she does seem like a nice girl via messaging.

[JWalker350]

I been texting with her and we had to reschedule few times. But like PP said she's been on since 2015 so if she's not lying about her age she has been doing this since 18. Enough said there. Though she does seem like a nice girl via messaging.Just curious did you meet her? She flaked on me. One or two pictures are old as I recalled. She works in Del Mar.

[Poksman]

I think that tells you all you need to know.Yeah. She is an experienced one for sure. But question is more about is she a pro. She has a job and has a degree. So hope she is more put together. She did share her social media with her real I'd (not Snapchat) so was able to dig in more. Also, she sent a few "peeks" of her Live Photos. All in all I'm still ok with the known "flags" I'm more about is she a druggie prostitute or not 😂.

[Poksman]

I been texting with her and we had to reschedule few times. But like PP said she's been on since 2015 so if she's not lying about her age she has been doing this since 18. Enough said there. Though she does seem like a nice girl via messaging.Yeah she is! We FaceTimed too and she seem legit so I'm going for it.

[Poksman]

I been texting with her and we had to reschedule few times. But like PP said she's been on since 2015 so if she's not lying about her age she has been doing this since 18. Enough said there. Though she does seem like a nice girl via messaging.Gents. Thanks for the feedback. Looks like she met with a few folks on here, so I appreciate the DMs. She's ok. Cute face. Body is curvy but no ass. Not toned. I'd stay away since she seem like a trouble maker. The monotone is what got me bored. She didn't put out, and stressed she's doesn't fuck around yet has a long history in the bowl. Obv since many of you met with her.

[CPMachine]

Anyone got any intel on a hot blonde they can verify that's legit? Been striking out with the blondes recently. Scams, flakes, platonic etc.

Mostly been with asians and black girls but I need a good meet with a sexy blonde.

Just send me profile link and I can do the rest.

Can trade info if wanted. DM or Post. Thanks in advance.

[Poksman]

Anyone got any intel on a hot blonde they can verify that's legit? Been striking out with the blondes recently. Scams, flakes, platonic etc.

Mostly been with asians and black girls but I need a good meet with a sexy blonde.

Just send me profile link and I can do the rest.

Can trade info if wanted. DM or Post. Thanks in advance.Def lots of blondes in SD. Tall, some. Combo of the 3 is hard.

Skye is my fave because of looks and personality: 400 ppm https://members.seeking.com/member/662612a8-c4e7-4711-a4ef-9f6e7389eada.

This one asked 800 ppm. I flaked on her and never met but we FaceTimed and she's hot. https://members.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879.

[PussyPumper]

Anyone got any intel on a hot blonde they can verify that's legit? Been striking out with the blondes recently. Scams, flakes, platonic etc.

Mostly been with asians and black girls but I need a good meet with a sexy blonde.

Just send me profile link and I can do the rest.

Can trade info if wanted. DM or Post. Thanks in advance.Any SB can be blonde with the help of some dye. So do you mean real or fake blonde?

I can second the suggestion that Skye is a great gal. Wonderful personality and she had a great body. Tall, thin and taut. 400 is her minimum, and not for all. Ogres probably have to pony up more!

She recently spawned, so I wonder what that did to her tummy and overall shape, she is also currently lactating. One other point is that I doubt she is a natural blonde. When I saw her she was auburn. She told me she didn't know what color she was "down there" as there was no hair "there" since she was at 13 at most!

[CPMachine]

Def lots of blondes in SD. Tall, some. Combo of the 3 is hard.

Skye is my fave because of looks and personality: 400 ppm https://members.seeking.com/member/662612a8-c4e7-4711-a4ef-9f6e7389eada.

This one asked 800 ppm. I flaked on her and never met but we FaceTimed and she's hot. https://members.seeking.com/member/1300f3e9-69ac-4767-9794-d17c70ea1879.Didn't that first one just have a baby? Think I talked when she was pregnant.

[Poksman]

Didn't that first one just have a baby? Think I talked when she was pregnant.Yep. Had her before, during and after pregnancy 😂.

[CPMachine]

Yep. Had her before, during and after pregnancy.Nice. And the kids not yours hopefully haha.

[Dsteezy]

Nice. And the kids not yours hopefully haha.This girl has been hella ran through, good for a CIMWS or CIP. Her allowing it while pregnant was fun though. I got to feel bad about the dude she's dating though. Has posts about him and her all over her IG. It's interesting to see to say the least.

[PussyPumper]

Sent my number to a girl and she sent me a screenshot of some website where you can search by phone number and the girls leave comments. Obviously I had some negative reviews because I stay under 3. Any idea which site they use to talk about us?While it may be possible that there may be a secret SB group / site, it is far more likely that she is a pro, using "sex worker" review & blacklisting sites. There are at least two. One is VerifyHim, which lists one of its purposes as identifying "fake sugardadies". Access is restricted, and is also (I think) commercial, that is, for a fee.

[MedinaSiu123]

This girl has been hella ran through, good for a CIMWS or CIP. Her allowing it while pregnant was fun though. I got to feel bad about the dude she's dating though. Has posts about him and her all over her IG. It's interesting to see to say the least.What's her IG if you don't mind.

[PussyPumper]

While it may be possible that there may be a secret SB group / site, it is far more likely that she is a pro, using "sex worker" review & blacklisting sites. There are at least two. One is VerifyHim, which lists one of its purposes as identifying "fake sugardadies". Access is restricted, and is also (I think) commercial, that is, for a fee.Skipthegames.

Seems to be down, so I have not verified.

[CPMachine]

This girl has been hella ran through, good for a CIMWS or CIP. Her allowing it while pregnant was fun though. I got to feel bad about the dude she's dating though. Has posts about him and her all over her IG. It's interesting to see to say the least.Can you share her IG? Or private message me it?

[ElleScer]

Hey so relatively new to the seeking website, just wondering how should I talk / approach these girls. I'm not certain if I should go about it like with an escort if all I want to do is meet and bang.

I was also searching around and man there are some really hot girls using this, don't know how many of them are real though, but I did run into one I've seen in the past just not through SA.

https://members.seeking.com/member/69b2bb60-a5f5-42f5-b837-e0de3f6c8798

Would meet her down in IB and fuck in the backseat of my car around the block. I got a video she recently texted me too I might be able to share.

[Pete8911]

Hey so relatively new to the seeking website, just wondering how should I talk / approach these girls. I'm not certain if I should go about it like with an escort if all I want to do is meet and bang.

I was also searching around and man there are some really hot girls using this, don't know how many of them are real though, but I did run into one I've seen in the past just not through SA.

https://members.seeking.com/member/69b2bb60-a5f5-42f5-b837-e0de3f6c8798

Would meet her down in IB and fuck in the backseat of my car around the block. I got a video she recently texted me too I might be able to share.This is a good question but it's tough to navigate. Some girls are escorts, some are down on their luck and some are looking for guysthat have a couple of bucks. This is a cross between a dating site and a market. Try and see what they want and sometimes they'll lead the conversation. Ask if they are interested in meeting for coffee to see if there is a spark. It's easier to work from a date to a transaction than vice-versa. If she wants money to meet, ask her what her PPM is and if she can host and be more upfront with it leading to the bedroom. Others will give you advice to be more straightforward but I find that I get free dates counteracting that approach. Happy hunting!

[CPMachine]

https://members.seeking.com/member/839595a3-1ee0-4e94-b1fb-5560cf479ab2

https://escortbabylon.net/image_list/8582011031

[Pete32]

Hey so relatively new to the seeking website, just wondering how should I talk / approach these girls. I'm not certain if I should go about it like with an escort if all I want to do is meet and bang.

I was also searching around and man there are some really hot girls using this, don't know how many of them are real though, but I did run into one I've seen in the past just not through SA.

https://members.seeking.com/member/69b2bb60-a5f5-42f5-b837-e0de3f6c8798

Would meet her down in IB and fuck in the backseat of my car around the block. I got a video she recently texted me too I might be able to share.You actually met her? All she did was take my money and scam me. And I'm pretty sure she has a pimp.

[PussyPumper]

Saw a comment from 5 days ago on another board about a sale / promo. I have not seen one.

[KingBaby]

Saw a comment from 5 days ago on another board about a sale / promo. I have not seen one.Well, I'm wondering the same thing. Seems like SA is only worth it these days when it's on sale.

Little vent. I am not concerned about SA being ruined by Pros, because I can see thru them. Price hike isn't a major deal breaking issue, because everything is going up. It's the damn Professional Meet & Greeter who are getting paid. Couldn't getting a M&G setup without being asked "How much are you paying for the M&G?" I was like "NOTHING! I will pay for your drinks and or coffee and or meal."

Damn shame. They are now trained to expect this. It's sad to see some of the guys who are doing these things: We all work hard, take many risks to make our money to be on SA. I would rather you shower your hard earned cash on that woman (or women) who treat you right. Don't do PAID M&G!

[PussyPumper]

Well, I'm wondering the same thing. Seems like SA is only worth it these days when it's on sale.

Little vent. I am not concerned about SA being ruined by Pros, because I can see thru them. Price hike isn't a major deal breaking issue, because everything is going up. It's the damn Professional Meet & Greeter who are getting paid. Couldn't getting a M&G setup without being asked "How much are you paying for the M&G?" I was like "Nothing! I will pay for your drinks and or coffee and or meal."

Damn shame. They are now trained to expect this. It's sad to see some of the guys who are doing these things: We all work hard, take many risks to make our money to be on SA. I would rather you shower your hard earned cash on that woman (or women) who treat you right. Don't do PAID M&G!I agree.

I went ahead and bit the bullet yesterday anyway.

Pleasantly surprised that there seem to be a few more reasonable women this time. Also several non-pros wanting to get together right away. Today or tomorrow as they are in need of money for the holidays. As usual, leaving it way too late for some of us to actually get together in time.

[CPMachine]

Cool chick. Has a kid but no major damage. Very skinny.

Just hard to meet up because in Hemet.

BBBJ w / CFS $$. 5.

https://members.seeking.com/member/62df6c94-0982-4989-a1c8-f25ef9cee6f4

[Poksman]

Saw a comment from 5 days ago on another board about a sale / promo. I have not seen one.I saw today. But I still have a few on Snapchat I haven't met up with.

[FarFarAway]

Cool chick. Has a kid but no major damage. Very skinny.

Just hard to meet up because in Hemet.

BBBJ w / CFS $$. 5.

https://members.seeking.com/member/62df6c94-0982-4989-a1c8-f25ef9cee6f4Profile gone. I think this happens a lot, someone posts a profile, a girl gets bombarded, they run for the hills.

[JWalker350]

Profile gone. I think this happens a lot, someone posts a profile, a girl gets bombarded, they run for the hills.No! The profile is still there. She must blocked you.

[PussyPumper]

Photo sellers are a pain, but it is not that bad when they are up front about it, either in their profile, or from the get-go.

What I hate are the scammer types who pretend to be "normal" SBs, and string you along, wasting tons of time.

Hallmarks are:

- They agree far to easily to everything. They may even suggest PPM, FWB themselves, like the first one I list.

- Will agree to meet.

- Will even set a date, or suggest a date, usually a week away.

It is only at this point that they ask if you want to see some hot photos. That is when you can be sure of what comes next.

One or two nude / semi-nude photos, and instructions they you need to Cashapp for more.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e2f8b2f6-03d6-4a9b-947d-e7e7a9890e19

https://members.seeking.com/member/c391e194-2912-4be4-b6b1-e7bd49a53915

[JWalker350]

Photo sellers are a pain, but it is not that bad when they are up front about it, either in their profile, or from the get-go.

What I hate are the scammer types who pretend to be "normal" SBs, and string you along, wasting tons of time.

Hallmarks are:

- They agree far to easily to everything. They may even suggest PPM, FWB themselves, like the first one I list.

- Will agree to meet.

- Will even set a date, or suggest a date, usually a week away.

It is only at this point that they ask if you want to see some hot photos. That is when you can be sure of what comes next.

One or two nude / semi-nude photos, and instructions they you need to Cashapp for more.

https://members.seeking.com/member/e2f8b2f6-03d6-4a9b-947d-e7e7a9890e19

https://members.seeking.com/member/c391e194-2912-4be4-b6b1-e7bd49a53915I experience the same as you mentioned above. In addition to delay first meeting one week with excuses such as out of town or busy working while in fact, they are very active on SA. When it comes to meeting day, they flake and not return messages.

[Anontt6]

I experience the same as you mentioned above. In addition to delay first meeting one week with excuses such as out of town or busy working while in fact, they are very active on SA. When it comes to meeting day, they flake and not return messages.This. Just had a SB do this to me. Arranged to meet up at a hotel in the evening, near her side of town, even reconfirmed that afternoon. Checked in all then she ghosted me. Turns out she "overslept" after getting off work, but I'd be willing to bet she got a more generous SD last minute. Another SB I fucked BBFS once flaked on me twice. Once was because of a "car accident" and second was permanent ghosting after asking what the agreed PPM was.

The list of excuses keeps on growing, and if there isn't a angle for these SBs from the get go (like scams, deposits, CashApp, etc.), then it's probably because they got a better offer elsewhere.

[JWalker350]

This. Just had a SB do this to me. Arranged to meet up at a hotel in the evening, near her side of town, even reconfirmed that afternoon. Checked in all then she ghosted me. Turns out she "overslept" after getting off work, but I'd be willing to bet she got a more generous SD last minute. Another SB I fucked BBFS once flaked on me twice. Once was because of a "car accident" and second was permanent ghosting after asking what the agreed PPM was.

The list of excuses keeps on growing, and if there isn't a angle for these SBs from the get go (like scams, deposits, CashApp, etc.), then it's probably because they got a better offer elsewhere.I do not think they got better offers from someone else. I tested that theory with two girls. I accepted their over price then asked for M&G. Both girls agreed to meet but when I confirmed a few hours before the meetings, one girl did not respond and the other girl told me the alarm did not work. Some girls showed up with 20-30 minutes late while others do not look like in the pictures such as older or over weight.

[JWalker350]

Photos are of reasonable 23 yo Asian gal. Says she is in town until Monday. "She" asks for reasonable $300.

If you want to take her up on this though, she says you have to buy her media first. No buy, no meet.

If you refuse, the language starts to sound unlike an Asian gal.

https://members.seeking.com/messages/inbox/49a6499a-6774-41fb-b41e-a5095fa8de13Yes. A lot of scammers on SA recently especially the profiles with blurred pictures.

[KingBaby]

Just in case, here is the actual message.

" Hey what's going on?

Looking for 300 intimacy included.

Read bio please so you get some info there you don't have to ask.

Hit me up at 415 ******* have kik too at ipopstyle.

More pics on ig at gracious0ne "

Pretty sure it's a "Group Mail," lol

[PussyPumper]

We all know that the the number of SBs asking for money for an initial meet & greet, or for photos and so on, has increased markedly over the years. Driven by "tutorial" videos on TikToc, YouTube, etc.

But today I encountered a new low. When I suggested moving discussion off of SA, a 19 yo SB, username BlackExcellence, told me I had to pay for her to do that!

[KingBaby]

We all know that the the number of SBs asking for money for an initial meet & greet, or for photos and so on, has increased markedly over the years. Driven by "tutorial" videos on TikToc, YouTube, etc.

But today I encountered a new low. When I suggested moving discussion off of SA, a 19 yo SB, username BlackExcellence, told me I had to pay for her to do that!Don't forget Reddit. Here is her profile, a "real queen" who "knows her worth," LOL https://members.seeking.com/member/9ae07d6a-345a-4682-8782-9aaa7c6b68c8.

Like my last post - the Professional M&Gers are the most toxic. Yet, this trend is driven by people who are paying for them.

[Waxxon]

Since I haven't subscribed for quite awhile signed up for recently offered turkey day discount. Lots more bs coming from these wannabee pretenders, pros, professional M&G, fakes, scammers. Have met a couple new sbs, moving on to 2nd dates this week.

https://members.seeking.com/member/c2d7cadb-d892-4461-8a97-ee0d6b1a21bd

Sends pics, wants deposit up front.

https://members.seeking.com/member/2af5350c-dc02-4b1c-8d82-d1b24fa14fcc

Talks a good story, then hits you with "I want to get comfortable with you and sell you some pics first" You'll also see she then disappears and her location is in other parts of the US. Scam and fake.

https://members.seeking.com/member/66966162-5ee4-466f-a034-5502f7dd3bb6

Possibly here in SD. Quickly went to text, she starts sending pics, calls you daddy and we set up a meet. Blocks me, but continues texting for the next day. On the day of the meet, then says "I'm going to get groceries for me and my aunt, can you help me daddy?" Now her profile is in Delaware. I ask her about it, she says I didn't block you, I took my profile down and still wants me to advance her $ but has some excuse as to why she can't meet.

https://members.seeking.com/member/cfa7270f-2cca-4391-85b3-5c5a156df3af

Seems real. Have had good dialogue, trying to close the deal.

https://members.seeking.com/member/63eaec74-0967-4b16-ae4d-82c06e6cbeae

Have had positive texting, thought we were going to meet but has dropped off. Seems real.

https://members.seeking.com/member/14e39b2e-173e-41c0-87bd-33cdddf827a9

Def a 420 sb. Not that I care, vaping consistently during M&G. Set 2nd date, then day prior when I want to reconfirm, waffles and says I'll get back to you. Finally the following day at 7 pm texts "are you still available" Nexted.

Several others I can't find at the moment. Have gotten the I am going for groceries can you send me cashapp for food scam from several scammers. Don't fall for any money up front for any reason.

Lots of pros on site.

Merry Christmas hope Santa brings you sweet sb.